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LONDON, SATURDAY, JANUARYS, 1874.
CONTENTS. — N« 1.
NOTES:— Our Fifth Series, 1— Portraits of Dr. Johnson-
Anne Boleyn, 2 — On the Elective and Deposing Power of
Parliament (No. IEL): Henry IV. to Henry VII, 3—
Shakspeariana, 4 — A Mnemonic Calendar for 1874— Thomas
'of Ercildoun — "Calm Decay" — Church-Door Notices where
there is no Church, 5 — English Dialects — Earrings —
Parallel Passages— Errata in Books— Writing : Watershed :
Three R's, 6.
QUERIES :— " The Passionate Remonstrance" — Sweden —
Hooker, "EccL Pol.," v. 7, 3, p. 41— Engraved Paste, 7—
Greenwich Observatory— Judicial Costume in Westminster
Hall— Innocents' Day : Muffled Peal— Charles II.— Supposed
Discovery of a British Stronghold at Grassington — Stacey
Grimaldi — Sacred Vessels and Vestments, 8 — Use of In-
verted Commas— Metal Dish— The Wakon-Bird— The Welsh
Testament— Royalist Declaration of April 24, 1660-r"The
Bee Papers" — iThe Marshals of France — Altars in the
Middle Ages, 9.
REPLIES :— The Earliest Mention of Shakspeare : Constable,
9— Marks on Porcelain, 10— Rise in the Value of Property
In Scotland, 11— Funeral Garlands— Crests of Knights of the
Garter— "Nor" for "Than," 12— A Stubborn Fact —
" Logarys Light " — The Latin Version of Bacon's "Essays,"
13 — The Surname "Barnes" — " Gordano "—Sarah, Duchess
of Marlborough— Quotation from Bacon Wanted—" Quillet "
— "Medulla Historic Anglican*" — Walking-Canes — Swift's
" Four Last Years of Queen Anne " — " Tout vient a point " —
Drinking Hogan, 14— The Cistercians— The Carol "Joseph
was an old man "— " Prester John " and the Arms of the
See of Chichester, 15— Rev. E. Gee— Penance in the Church
of England— Empress Elizabeth II. of Russia— Euthanasia-
Divining Rod—" A Toad under a Harrow," 16— Pope's Views
of Religion in England— Scottish Titles— "The Sword in
Myrtles drest "— " Repeck," 17— The Violet, the Napoleonic
Flower— Sir Thomas (Edward ?) Pnllison, or Pulesdon— " No
more use than a side pocket to a toad " — " Dalk " — Place of
Burial of Edmund, Duke of Somerset, 18.
Notes on Books, &c.
Jtataf.
OUR FIFTH SERIES.
On an occasion when Edmund Burke had finished
a brilliant oration and an exhaustive argument in
the House of Commons, another member, Mr.
Cruger, modestly feeling that he could not equal
the great speaker either in brilliancy or argument,
but assuming that he was bound to say something,
appropriated to himself a share of the orator's
merits by simply exclaiming, " I say ditto to Mr.
Burke."
In 1856, MR. THOMS had entered on the seventh
year of his beneficent reign as Editor of " N. & Q."
He then commenced, with the thirteenth volume,
the Second Series of the popular journal of which
he was the founder ; and he took the opportunity
of acknowledging the aid he had received, of con-
gratulating his correspondents on the success he had
accomplished by their means, and he described his
application of their friendly contributions. As MR.
THOMS'S successor, now beginning the Fifth Series
of " N. & Q.," looks through the remarks which
prefaces the Second, he finds himself in the position
of Mr. Cruger, and imitates that laconic legislator
by saying, " Ditto to Mr. Burke !"
When MR. THOMS commenced the Third Series
of " N. & Q.," in 1862, he had to speak of a twelve
years' experience and the fruits thereof. He could
then refer not only to the object for which " N. & Q."
had been established, but to the complete success
with which it had been carried out. He quoted
the lines which Ben Jonson addressed to Selden,
as lines the applicability of which to this journal
had been pointed out by one of the first and most
valued of our contributors. They are lines which
will bear repeating here, for their application, it is
hoped, is as well founded now as in 1862 : —
" What fables have you vexed, what truth redeemed, '
Antiquities searched, opinions disesteemed,
Impostures branded, and authorities urged !
What blots and errors have you watched and purged^
Records and authors of, how rectified,
Times, manners, customs, innovations spied !
Sought out the fountains' sources, creeks, paths, ways,
And noted the beginnings and decays !
What is that nominal mark, or real rite,
Form, act, or ensign that hath escaped your sight 1
How are traditions there examined } how
Conjectures retrieved ! and a story, now
And then, of times (besides the bare conduct
Of what it tells us) weaved in to instruct ! "
At the beginning of the Fourth Series, in 1868,
the Editor had to mingle some regrets with this
expression of thankfulness to contributors, and of
honest self-gratulation in the success of an enter-
prise, in which success, and the labour by which
it was achieved, he bore a greater part than his
modesty would allow him to chronicle. The ex-
pression of regret may be repeated here for losses
similar to those mournfully alluded to by MR.
THOMS. In this battle of life, men with whom we
have long stood shoulder to shoulder succumb in
the great struggle ; and as we honour the memory
of the fallen, we seem to hear the military call,
" Close up !" and we are again moving forward in
the contest for, and search after, truth.
It is matter for congratulation that " N. & Q."
has lost no valuable contributor (except by .death-
or infirmity) since MR. THOMS retired, and that
new and well-endowed correspondents have sup-
plied the places of the departed. To all these the
tribute of thanks' and good wishes is heartily
rendered, especially for the "patient courtesy"
with which they have awaited insertion of articles
unavoidably deferred. For the past and for the
present so much —
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[5* S. I. JAN. 3, 74.
" Hue undique Gaza
Congeritur ";
and the words will be as applicable for the future ;
during which each " Gentle Header " is respectfully
requested to consider that the following lines are
especially addressed to himself : —
" Si quicquam irrepait vitiorum, Candide Lector,
Ipsemet asquanimo corrige judicio."
PORTRAITS OF DR. JOHNSON.
Among other interesting portraits which were in
the possession of the late Dr. Turton, Bishop of
Ely, were two of Dr. Johnson. The one, a half-
length, said to be painted by Sir Joshua Keynolds,
is a portrait of Johnson as a comparatively young
man, resting his chin on his hands, which are
clasped over a book, lettered " IRENE." This the
bishop had engraved ; and on one of the pleasant
and instructive evenings which I passed with him
at the Deanery, Westminster, he gave me a copy
of it, on which it is stated it was painted by
Reynolds, engraved by G. Zobel, and was one of
the first " fifty impressions," and a " private plate."
The second, representing Johnson at an advanced
period of his life, the bishop believed to be by
Gainsborough.
Since the death of the good bishop, and the sale
of his pictures, I have heard strong doubts expressed
as to the genuineness of both these portraits ; and
I am bound to confess that, as Johnson must have
been at least forty-three when he became acquainted
with Reynolds, the portrait, if a genuine portrait
of Johnson, cannot be the work of our greatest
portrait-painter. The object of this note is to learn,
if possible, where these portraits now are, and
the opinion of competent authorities as to their
authenticity. WILLIAM Ji THOMS.
ANNE BOLEYN.
The pedigree of Anne Boleyn has been studied
and stated by many literary antiquaries, but it can
hardly as yet be considered in a settled state.
Modern writers continue to vary in opinion as to
the number of Lord Wiltshire's children, and the
dates and places of their birth. The mystery
which hangs about the less distinguished members
of this family, hangs in some degree over the most
eminent of all, the mother of Queen Elizabeth.
The priority of her birth is especially a point in
dispute ; a matter of the highest controversial im-
portance, as readers who have ever dipped into
Sanders and Campian are well aware. This
point affects the whole question of Henry's sup-
posed relations with the other female members of
her family, as those relations are described by Car-
dinal Giovio in his Historia sui Temporis, and
adopted, with many exaggerations, by certain
classes of Italian and English writers. Was
Anne Boleyn the elder or the younger daughter of
Lord Wiltshire? The Index-maker to the great
collection of State Papers of the Reign of Henry
VIII. described her as the younger daughter.
This authority has been followed by many recent
writers. I would especially recite as examples
three of the most eminent editors of historical
letters and papers now living : Professor Brewer,
in his great treasury of the Letters and Papers of
the Reign of Henry VIII., vol. i., Intr. Ixv.; Mrs.
Everett Green, in her excellent Letters of Royal
and Illustrious Ladies, vol. ii., p. 193 ; and Mr.
Pocock, in his valuable .Records of the Reformation,
vol. i., Intr.
Yet this opinion seems to be erroneous. The
genealogical and historical antiquaries, who have
had to study the Boleyn pedigree in connexion
either with the descent of honours and estates or
with the evidence preserved in sepulchral monu-
ments, describe Anne Boleyn as the elder daughter.
I cite this mass of evidence very briefly, and submit
it to the attention, and, in case of need, to the
correction of the three eminent writers who, follow-
ing the Index-maker of the State Papers, have
adopted the other theory. Sir Harris Nicolas
makes Anne Boleyn the elder daughter: see his
Historic Peerage, p. 514. Sir William Dugdale
places Anne Boleyn before her sister Mary : see his
Baronage of England, vol. ii., 106. Banks also
places Anne Boleyn before her sister Mary : see his
Dormant and Extinct Baronage of England, vol. i.,
p. 755. Clutterbuck makes Anne Boleyn the elder
daughter of her father: see his History and An-
tiquities of the County of Hertford, vol. iii., p. 95.
Bloomfield, a very careful genealogist, makes Anne
Boleyn the elder daughter of her father : see his
History of Norfolk, vol. iii., p. 628. Morant, who
has to deal with the Boleyn pedigree in connexion
with Rochford Hall, arrives at the same conclusion :
see his History and Antiquities of Essex, vol. i.,
pp. 270 and 281. Weever, a very scrupulous col-
lector of facts, describes Anne Boleyn as the elder
daughter : see his Ancient Funeral Monuments,
p. 514. Miss Reilly, who had the use of family
notes, and who wrote her book expressly to illus-
trate the family pedigree, also describes Anne
Boleyn as the elder daughter of her father : see her
Historical Anecdotes of the Families of Boleyn,
Carey, &c., p. 3.
The erroneous impression as to the priority of
birth of these two sisters arose in a curious way,
through the ignorant mistake of a member of the
Carey family, and received a legal and official cor-
rection at the moment when it first arose.
The earldom of Ormond was bestowed on Sir
Thomas Boleyn, the father of these two ladies, with
remainder to his heirs general: see Sir Harris
Nicolas's Historic Peerage, pp. 401, 402. This
earldom would have descended, together with the
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earldom of Wiltshire, to his son George Boleyn,
Viscount Rochford, if that elegant poet and gallant
gentleman had survived him. Lord Rochford, as
every one knows, was beheaded when his sister
felU The earldom of Wiltshire had been granted to
Sir Thomas Boleyn and his heirs male ; that honour,
therefore, became extinct when the father of Anne
Boleyn died, without male issue, at Hever Castle.
The earldom of Ormond, having been granted to his
heirs general, remained in abeyance among his sur-
viving descendants ; who at the time of his decease
were the Princess Elizabeth, only living child of his
daughter Queen Anne ; Mary Carey, the Queen's
sister; and Henry Carey, that sister's son. The ques-
tion of priority at once presented itself. Had Mary
been Lord Wiltshire's elder daughter, her son Henry
Carey would have been the next male in succession
to the Irish earldom. Anne being, in fact, the
elder daughter, that Irish earldom fell in abeyance
to Elizabeth as her only surviving child.
The facts were, of course, perfectly well known
to Elizabeth and to her aunt Mary, and Elizabeth
very carefully preserved all her claims to her grand-
father's honours as his heir general. Henry Carey,
her cousin, was created by her Baron Hunsdon ;
but though she loved him well, and favoured him
much, she would never grant him any of the titles
borne by her, and his, grandfather : see Nicolaa's
Historic Peerage, p. 261. It happened, however,
that George Carey, second Lord Hunsdon, a man
who appears to have been wonderfully ignorant
of his family pedigree, was induced to ask for the
Irish earldom of Ormond on the pretended ground
that his grandmother Mary was older than the
Queen's mother, and that he, therefore, was his great-
grandfather's proper heir general : see Domesti<
Papers of Queen Elizabeth (in Record Office), vol.
cclxiv., art. 135. Of course Elizabeth disallowed this
claim. As an illustration of George Carey's igno-
rance of his family history, I may mention that he
spoke in his petition of Queen Anne as " a daughter
to the daughter of the Earl of Ormond" ; omitting
her Howard descent altogether, and rolling Lad]
Margaret Butler and Lady Elizabeth Howard into
one woman ! But his application to the Crown
for a reversion of the Irish honours of his ancestor
was the means of teaching him a little of his tru
pedigree. When his daughter Elizabeth, Ladj
Berkeley, died, the following words were placet
over her grave : —
" Here lieth the body of Elizabeth, Lady Berkeley
daughter and sole heir of George Carey, Lord Hunsdon
son and heir of Henry Carey, Lord HunsdoH, son an
heir of William Carey and the Lady Mary hia wife
second daughter and co-heir of Thomas Bullen, Earl o
Ormond and Wiltshire." — See Collins's Peerage, vol. iv,
p. 23.
It is only necessary to add to this mass of evi
dence that the Careys never could and never di(
obtain any of the honours worn by Queen Anne'
father until Elizabeth was dead, and the priorit
f Queen Anne's posterity was at an end. Then,
nd then only, the Careys obtained that viscounty
f Rochford which had been conferred on the
Joleyns by Henry VIII. See Nicolas's Historic
"'eerage, pp. 261, 402.
I may deal with the date of Queen Anne's birth
in another communication.
W. HEPWORTH DIXON.
ON THE ELECTIVE AND DEPOSING POWER OF
PARLIAMENT.
No. III.— HENBY IV. TO HENRY VII.
After Richard II., the next instance of a sovereign
leposed was that of Henry VI., who, however, was
Nearly deposed by force of arms, as was Richard III.,
ifter whom there was no instance of deposition
until the case of Charles I. But the history of the
whole intervening period is very material with
reference to the alleged existence either of an
elective or deposing power in Parliament ; and
very strongly tends to negative the existence of
either power. The history of this period is, for
that purpose, to be studied continuously, because
;he usurpation of Henry IV. led to the contest
between the Houses of York and Lancaster, which
was entirely a contest between two conflicting
claims of hereditary right ; that contest was ter-
minated by the accession of Henry VII., on condi-
tion of his marriage with the heiress of the House
of York, then recognized as having the better
hereditary title ; and the hereditary title of the
House of Stuart was recognized by Parliament as
derived from her, as representing the House of York.
That House had no right if Henry IV. had a valid
elective title ; for then, either by the hereditary
nature of the crown, or by Parliamentary recogni-
tion, it would have gone to his heirs, and so the
title of the House of York would have been dis-
placed.
But Henry IV. really acquired the crown by
conquest, and preferred to rely on that alone. It
is true that on the day he usurped the crown, he
so far used a flimsy pretext of election as to cause
it to be recorded that the Peers assented to it. But
it also appears from the same record that they
could not help it ; for it seems that he distinctly
asserted the right of conquest against any who
should oppose him ; that he confiscated the estates
of the late king's ministers, whom he had mur-
dered ; that he degraded six of the principal peers
whom he knew to be attached to the deposed king;
that he threatened them with death if they should
adhere to their late king, and that, as they did
adhere to him, he caused them to be executed. It
is manifest, then, that the flimsy pretext of elec-
tion was only made use of as a politic disguise ;
and that in reality he coerced Parliament into an
assent to his usurpation. This was really and truly
a conquest of the crown, and this every one was
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[5th S. I. JAN. 3, 74.
conscious of. That the accession of Henry IV. was
simply an act of conquest, the triumph of military
force, is manifest from the facts, and from his own
acts and words. He was, says Mackintosh, " at the
head of an unresisted army," " the master of the Par-
liament." The pretence of Parliamentary sanction
for his usurpation is, therefore, vain. It is proved
beyond a doubt that the principal peer who sup-
ported him (Northumberland) had no idea that he
was about to claim the throne, but only submitted
in silence because he could not help it, and was in
arms against him within a month. (Lingard,
wol. iii. c. 4.) The records on the Eolls of Parlia-
yinent, framed, no doubt, under the eye of Henry
Vhimself, equally attest the real nature of his usur-
pation. He distinctly and in terms asserted the
aight of conquest ; and though he paraded before
the people the pretence of election, he treated it in
reality with open contempt. Hence all through his
.reign he had to maintain himself on th.e throne by
.force of arms ; and at its close his son said to him
with truth, " You gained the crown by the sword,
and I will keep it by the sword." Nor did the
nation ever-for ten years together quietly submit to
his usurpation. Hence Burke truly speaks of him
.as a " conscious usurper."
So conscious was Henry of the absence of any
Teal title by election, and so well was he aware
how false and hollow such a title would be, that
though he again and again caused Parliament to
pass Acts which declared the succession in his
family, he found it impossible to reconcile them
with any real and stable title, and, therefore,
^abandoned them. He carefully made the Acts
declaratory in order to avoid the appearance of
» election, which would have been fatal to any
.security of title. But then a declaratory Act im-
plied an existing title, and title he had none, save
that of conquest, which would be equally valid
without an Act of Parliament at all, while Acts of
Parliament would have implied an elective title ; so
in the result, on that, his only true title, he resolved
to rest, and he abandoned the Acts of Parliament,
which, therefore, are not to be found in the statute-
book, but only on the Eolls.
Henry was shrewd enough to see that what Par-
liament gave Parliament could take away ; and so
he deliberately, and after much deliberation and
hesitation, rejected a Parliamentary title, because,
in the absence of any hereditary right in him, it
would have been an elective title, and he knew this
to be worthless, as those who professed to have
elected him might have assumed to reject his son
or grandson. Hence he preferred to rest upon the
title by conquest, his only real title, for he had no
hereditary right, and there had been no real elec-
tion, but a coerced assent to an armed usurpation.
The death of Richard gave Henry no title to the
throne, for he was descended from the third son of
Edward, and the true heir descended from an elder
son. The second was kept by him in close con-
finement. It is a curious fact that even on the
Eolls of Parliament Lionel is called the third son.
In the course of the contests which ensued as to
the right to the crown Lionel is called the third son,
and John of Ghent the fourth son, of Edward III.,
and Lingard falls into the error ; whereas Lionel
was the second ; John, from whom Henry de-
scended, was the third. The Earl of March, from
whom, through a daughter, the House of York
claimed, was the son of a daughter of Lionel, the
second son ; and during his life Henry could have
no hereditary title to the throne ; yet, though con-
scious of the utter absence of hereditary title, such
a distrust had he of an elective title, knowing it
was really coerced, that though he actually ob-
tained more than one Parliamentary recognition of
the succession of the crown to his heirs, he aban-
doned and discarded them, and deliberately pro-
posed for himself and for them to rely on conquest,
that is, on armed force. A descent of the crown,
however, to an heir gave, according to feudal
notions, an imperfect kind of title, and for that
very reason the descent of the crown to his son
was disturbed by an attempt at a rebellion on
behalf of the rightful heir, the Earl of March. It
was suppressed, however, by the sword, and his
successor reigned, as he had done, by force of arms,
aided by the popularity gained by military prowess
and success. But in the reign of his son's successor
the title of the House of York was again and again
asserted ; and its assertion, its recognition by Par-
liament, and its ultimate success in the person of
Elizabeth of York, form the most striking proofs
of the deep-rooted attachment to the hereditary
principle which has always characterized this
country. W. F. F.
(%o le continued.)
SHAKSPEARIANA.
NOTE ON A PASSAGE IN THE "Two GENTLE-
MEN OF VERONA " — " She is not to be kiss'd
fasting." — May not the idea of having a formal list
of the qualities of a woman have been suggested
by some actual occurrence in the sixteenth century 1
"Catalogues of Conditions" were certainly occa-
sionally made in all seriousness. One of these
may be seen in the report made to Henry VII. in
1505 respecting the Queen of Naples. In this
curious paper occurs the following inquiry, and
the answer made by the ambassadors : —
" 18. Item, That they endeavour them to speak with the
said young queen fasting, and that she may tell unto them
some matter at length, and to approach, as near to her
mouth as they honestly may, to the intent that they may feel
the condition of her breath, whether it le sweet or not, and
to mark at every time when they speak with her if they feel
any savour of spices, rosewater, or musk, by the breath of
her mouth or not. — To this article : we could never come
unto the speech of the said queen fasting, wherefore we
ould nor might not attain to knowledge of that part of
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
this article, notwithstanding at sucli other times as we
have spoken, and have had communication with the said
queen, we have approached as nigh unto her visage as
that conveniently we might do, and we could feel no
savour of any spices or waters, and we think verily by
the favour of her visage, and cleanness of her complexion
and of her mouth, that the said queen is like for to be of
a sweet savour and well eyred."
J. 0. HALLIWELL.
THE LARK AND THE TOAD. — In Borneo and
Juliet, Act iii. sc. 5, 1. 31, Shakspere makes Juliet
say " Some say the lark and loathed toad, change
eyes." Can any "N. & Q." reader give me an
illustrative passage to expkin this superstition?
Is it founded on the extraordinarily accurate sight
•of the toad in catching its victims (see Penny
Cyclopedia}, or on the lark's being able to see in
the dark or twilight — as toads, says Topsell, " in
the daytime see little or nothing ; but in the
night-time they see perfectly " ; — or on any power
larks may have of seeing the signs* of rain ? a
quality attributed to waterbirds by Tully, " in his
first Book of Divination," where, " speaking to the
Frogs, he citeth these verses : —
" Vos quoqwe signa videtis aquai dulcis alumnae,
Cum clamore paratis inanes fundere voces,
Absurdoqwe sono fontea & stagna cietis."
In English thus :—
•"And you, 0 water-birds, which dwell in streams so
sweet,
Do see the signes whereby the weather is foretold ;
Your crying voyces wherewith the waters are repleat,
Vain sounds, absurdly moving Fools and Fountains
cold." Hiitory of Serpents, p. 723.
F. J. FURHIVALL.
P.S. Mr. Staunton has since given me a quota-
tion— now mislaid — that shows that as the ugly
toad has beautiful eyes, it was supposed to have
stolen them from, or changed them with, the lark.
THE BROCKEN.— In K. H. VI., Part III. i. 4
may not the words, —
* That raught at mountains with outstretched arms,
Yet parted but the shadow with his hand," —
be an allusion to a phenomenon like that celebrated
as " the spectre of the Brocken " ? S. T. P.
A TIDAL TERM.— In As You Like It, Act iL
sc. 7, what is the meaning of —
" Till that the weary very means do ebb " ?
Is there any word relating to the tides answering
to " means." Malina is Spanish for a spring tide.
' S. T. P.
A MNEMONIC CALENDAR FOR 1874.— If the
reader can commit to memory the two following
nonsense verses, only seventeen syllables in all, he
will have an easy and complete key to the calendar
for 1874. The lines I propose are : —
For once, one finds three several beaux
Fined two-and-six for sixteen " goes."
The explanation is very easy. The words beaux
and goes are thrown in for the rime (if I may so
spell the word), but all the other words are
significant, as follows : —
Far means four, and the first Sunday in January is
January 4.
Once means one, and the first Sunday in February is
February 1."
Similarly, one means March 1 ; finds means five,
i.e., April 5 ; three is May 3 ; several is for seven,
i.e., June 7 ; and there the first half-year ends.
In the second half-year, or second line, fined means
five, i.e., July 5 ; two is August 2 ; six is Sep-
tember 6 ; for is October 4 ; whilst sixteen must
be read as 16, i.e., November 1 and December 6.
This is exceedingly easy in practice ; and I myself
find that it is a great comfort to be always inde-
pendent of reference to an almanack. If one
knows the date of the first Sunday, one knows all
the rest. WALTER W. SKEAT.
Cintra Terrace, Cambridge.
THOMAS OF ERCILDOUN. — As Sir Walter Scott
stated (says Prof. Child) that there was a MS. of
the well-known ballad or poem by this author, at
Peterborough, will you print the accompanying
disclaimer of the Cathedral Librarian there, that
the MS. is not in the library under his charge ?
F. J. F.
" Peterborough, Dec. 20, 1873.
" Sir,— In answer to your letter of the 12th instant, I
beg to inform you that there is not in the Cathedral
Library any MS. copy of Thomas of Erceldown's poems.
"We have scarcely any manuscripts in the Library,
with the exception of the ancient Leidger Book of Kobt.
de Swapham, and a Prologue of the Four Gospels gathered
into one Story by a Priest of the Church of Lanthony, of
the fourteenth century, or thereabouts. Most of the
early MSS. were destroyed in the time of Cromwell.
" I jjhould have been very happy if I could have
rendered you any information respecting your inquiries.
"Yours faithfully,
" JAS. CATTEL, Librarian."
"F. J. Furnivall, Esq."
"CALM DECAY." — Keble, in a note to the lines
on the Twenty-first Sunday after Trinity, says he
owes the beautiful expression, " Calm decay," to a
" friend." Isaac Williams speaks of Tintern Abbey
as "Calm in decay" (Cathedral, 179); but it was
first used by Southey in Reflections on Autumn : —
" To me they show
The calm decay of nature."
MACKENZIE E. C. WALCOTT.
CHURCH-DOOR NOTICES WHERE THERE is NO
CHURCH. — The notes on a certain difficulty at-
tendant upon the publication of banns of marriage
remind me of another difficulty. The parish of
Washingley, Northamptonshire, has no church, the
old church having been destroyed some five cen-
;uries ago, and no successor to it having been built.
The parish is now attached to Lutton, where there
is a church. At the entrance of the park of
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[5th S. I. JAN. 3, 74.
Washingley Hall (once the residence of the Apreece
family) are some Scotch firs. They stand a few
yards from the gate leading to Caldecote Church,
county of Huntingdonshire, diocese of Ely, Wash-
ingley being in Northamptonshire, diocese of
Peterborough. All notices that are required by
law to be affixed to church-doors, are nailed on two
of the Scotch firs just mentioned. At any rate,
this was the custom during the twelve years that I
recently lived within a few yards of the spot. And,
when I had occasion to draw some Scotch firs for
the frontispiece of my book of West-Highland
legendary stories, The White Wife (S. Low & Co.,
1865), I sketched those Washingley firs to which
the " church-door" notices were affixed.
CUTHBERT BEDE.
ENGLISH DIALECTS. — I send you a few flowers of
rhetoric of my own gathering, culled in actual con-
versation, in the hope that they may possibly be of
service to such of your correspondents as are col-
lecting such phrases.
Hast Lancashire.
Cow-stall. (Said on the rejection of the Premier for
South Lancashire.) "They'll ha* to find him another
boose."
Cunning. " If they wanten to be middlin' fame, they
should be churchwarden for a while."
(The spokesman in these two instances is a fanner.)
Difficult. (Said of a lame man.) " He seemed very ill
set to walk."
Embraced. (An Elizabethan word.) *' He clipped me
and kissed me." (He was a terrier.)
Frequently. " I 've told her, and I 've showed her,
under and over."
(The spokeswoman in these cases is a rare gem, an
unspoiled servant of the old school, who writes in a letter
that she is so busy, she has barely time to " take the
fathers of the fowls.")
Oxfordshire.
Long distance. " It 's a smart little way.'K
Poorly. " He 's very middling."
Surrey.
Delirious. " He was quite sillified yesterday."
HERMENTRUDE.
EARRINGS. — According to a Mahometan legend,
Sarah, being jealous of Hagar, declared she would
not rest until her hands had been imbued in her
bondmaid's blood. Then Abraham pierced Hagar's
ear quickly, and drew a ring through it, so that
Sarah was able to dip her hand in the blood of
Hagar without bringing the latter into danger.
From that time it became a custom among women
to wear earrings. See Michaelis, Laws of Moses,
1814, vol. ii., 178. A. L. MAYHEW.
Oxford.
PARALLEL PASSAGES. —
MACAULAY, Lake Regillut.
" While met in mortal combat,
The Roman and the Tusculan,
The horses black and grey.
Fast, fast, with heels wild spurning,
The dark grey charger fled ;
He burst through ranks of fighting men ;
He sprung on heaps of dead.
His bridle far out streaming,
His flanks all blood and foam,
He sought the southern mountains.
The mountains of his home.
* * * *
But like a graven image,
Black Auster held his place."
* # * *
HOGG'S Queen's Wake, Twelfth Bard's Song.
•' When good Earl Walter rode the ring
Upon his mettled grey.
* * * * *
Earl Walter's grey was borne aside ;
Lord Darcie's black held on.
*****
Lord Darcie's steed turned to his lord,
And trembling stood behind ;
But off Earl Walter's dapple scoured
Far fleeter than the wind ;
Nor stop, nor stay, nor gate, nor ford,
Could make her look behind.
On holt and hill, on slope and slack,
She sought her native stall."
FREDERICK MANT.
Egham Vicarage.
ERRATA IN BOOKS. — Your correspondent's com-
munication, at p. 366 of your current series, on the
errors in the first edition of Basan's Dictionnaire,
1767, reminds me that I have by me a Note on
Errata, also a " curio," and which appears in the
following candidly apologetic form : —
" Errata for both volumes.
" The Author is in his seventieth year, and never pre*
tended to be an accurate writer."
To these volumes the said author gave an equally
quaint title, which runs thus:^-
" Memoirs and Anecdotes of Philip Thicknesse, late
Lieutenant-Governor of Landguard Fort, and unfortu-
nately Father to George Touchet, Baron Audley."
CRESCENT.
Wimbledon.
WRITING : WATERSHED : THREE K's. — Some
years ago I proposed the regular verb " to scribe,"
" he scribed," &c., for to write, he wrote, &c., which
could substitute a regular for an irregular verb, and
diminish the " right, rite, wright, write " ambiguity
by one member (we use describe, prescribe, &c.).
For "watershed" I proposed "aquacline" or
"aquaclive." Since this shed comes from the
German scheiden (parting), and not from bloodshed,
coal shoot (schiessen, schuetten), my words have
the advantage of a West European Latin incorpo-
ration, such as thermometer versus /Wsermemesser,
&c. I think instead of the educational three R'S,
we ought to call them the "RAW material of
knowledge," that is, Eeading, Arithmetic, and
Writing, which would abolish the bad infantile
spelling of two of them, and alsd indicate how
often master and pupil are at WAR with each other.
S. M. DRACH.
5* S. I. JAN. 3, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
dtatrfafc
[We most request correspondents desiring information
on family matters of only private interest, to affix their
names and addresses to their queries, in order that the
Answers may be addressed to them direct.]
"THE PASSIONATE REMONSTRANCE." — May I
ask if anything is known about this remarkable
book ?—
" The Passionate Remonstrance made by his Holinesse
in the Conclave at Rome upon the Proceedings and
Great Covenant of Scotland," &c. Sm. 4to., 4t) leaves.
Printed at Edinburgh, 1641.
(bearing internal evidence, however, that it was
from a London press) with a frontispiece represent-
ing the Conclave — Urban VIII. surrounded by his
Cardinals, Bishops, &c., debating the affront lately
put upon the Holy See by the rejection of the
Service Book, and the influence in church affairs
of the—
" Kingdome of Scotland, the most unfortunate and
inconsiderable Angle in the world ; a people not worthy
to be beloved, or sought after. Whose Revenues could
Isardly afford the Oil to our Sallad, yet offered our
E mbracemen ts. "
The whole thing is a crow of the delighted
Covenanters, and the object to congratulate them-
selves upon the defeat of the presumed plot
hatched at Rome, and entrusted to their ally, Bishop
Laud, to bring about the restoration of the Papacy,
but spoilt by the precipitancy of the Scottish
bishops. To the Remonstrance is added the
sympathetic abuses of the Cardinals upon the in-
gratitudes of the silly Scots in repelling the Holy
Father's sweet intents with their abominable
Covenant, and the whole, indeed, a banter
plentifully supplied with poetical encomiums
upon the stand made against Popish intrusions,
and compliments to the anon, author, a "young
sprit," as Dr. Prymrose calls him, " whose ripe age
was expected to yeeld a Golden Fleece."
A striking comment upon my old book is
furnished in the great movement of the day. In
1641, it was ostensibly but a prelatic raid, although
the maddened Scots people of the period made
little difference between Popery and Episcopacy ;
but, shade of John Kuox ! when we are told by
our own Correspondent, in 1873, that the banner
and contingent from Scotland was the most pro-
minent feature at Paray-le-Monial, let it not be
said at Rome that we are offering a national
reparation for the ill manners of our forefathers ;
rather let it stimulate us to rally our broken forces,
and again unfurl the banner of the old Covenant
against a real invasion of the common enemy.
J. 0.
SWEDEN.— What is the etymology of Sweden ?
The name has been derived from many sources,
but I have not met with a derivation confirmed by
historical proof. 1. From the old Cimbric word
suidia, to burn, it being the practice in Sweden to
set the forests on fire in order to procure fertile
fields. 2. From sven, which in Swedish and Dansk
means youthful, warlike, and was a name bestowed
on many of the Scandinavian kings. 3. From one
of the names of the God Odin. This kst is said
to be confirmed by Runic inscriptions and the
Edda. A. L. MAYHEW.
Oxford.
Hooker, Eccl. Pol, v. 7, 3, p. 41 : —
IIpOS TOVS €K TToStol/ d>#OVOS OvSetS <&U£Tat.
Philo.
Ilao-a Svoyuveia TOJ /3«o rovnp crvva.TroTi6erai.
— Synes. Ibid. v. 15, 3, p. 68.
TO. aiarOrjo-ei KaAa KO.L vorjo-ei KaXtov ei/coi/es. —
Philo Jud. Ibid.
These passages are not verified in the edition of
Hooker published at the Clarendon Press. The
last is also cited by Jer. Taylor, in his discourse on
" The Reverence due to Holy places," in the Life
of Christ, in vol. ii. of Eden's edition, where, at
least in the earlier issue of the volume, it is in
like manner noted as unfound ; and I think that
one, if not both, of the other passages is likewise
cited by him, and not verified. There are many
passages in Philo closely resembling the third, but
only the exact words are asked for, the other
passages being easily found. ED. MARSHALL.
ENGRAVED PASTE. — I possess a beautifully exe-
cuted intaglio, size 14 by 1 inch, an imitation of
an antique Greek gem, the subject being the helmed
head of Pallas. It is sunk into a coloured paste
of pale amethystine hue, and under the neck of
the goddess is inscribed, in Greek characters, this
name " L. or A. Pichler " (A. or A. IIIXAEP).
Can any one furnish me with information regarding
the above artist in glyptics, when and where he
flourished, and so on ; and whether similar
coloured-paste intaglios were not issued, towards
the close of last century, by the well-known Mr.
Tassie 1 I also desire to learn how such pastes are
composed and formed, the surface, where not en-
graved, appearing like ground glass ; also whether
the art-work on the material was performed by
means of a diamond lathe, or with steel tools, or
impressed by a duplicate in relief, when the mate-
rial was in a soft state, and afterwards sharpened
up and strengthened by manipulative processes?
Any information, or references to books, will be
gladly acknowledged. CRESCENT.
Wimbledon.
P.S. Since writing the above, I have found the
following mention in Labarte's Handbook of the
Arts of the Middle Ages, p. 55, edit. 1855 :—
" The art of engraving upon stones declined greatly
in the seventeenth century, and was even so little culti-
vated, that many of its processes were lost, With the
eighteenth century appeared many artists of high merit.
Joseph Pichler (f 1790) was the most celebrated of all,
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5th S. I. JAN. 3, 74.
and his productions may deservedly be ranked with
those of the engravers of antiquity."
Were there, therefore, more Pichlers than one ?
Or what does the A. or A. signify ?
GREENWICH OBSERVATORY. — The warrant for
the building of the Observatory at Greenwich is
dated 2nd June, 1675, and the foundation stone
was laid on the 10th August following. The first
nautical almanac, published by order of the
Commissioners of Longitude, was for the year
1767, and all the elements were calculated for the
meridian ' of Greenwich. By W. Emerson's
Mathematical Principles of Geography, issued in
1770, the longitude of London is stated to be 18°,
and is, therefore, evidently reckoned from, the
meridian of Ferro, one of the Canary Islands. In
the same work, Patagonia is stated to be situated
between the longitude of 295° and 320° ; hence, at
that date, the longitude was reckoned easterly
round the world.
When did the English first reckon the longitude
from the meridian of Greenwich, and when was it
first measured 180° easterly or westerly from that
meridian ? Was the mode of reckoning regulated
by an Act of Parliament, or was it assented to by
the astronomers and geographers of the day ?
E. H. C.
JUDICIAL COSTUME IN WESTMINSTER HALL. —
Will the Judicature Act of last Session have the
effect of superseding, or in any way altering, the
costume as at present worn by the judges of the
superior courts of common law when sitting in
open court? As every one who has read it is
aware, the Act practically amalgamates the three
superior courts of Queen's Bench, Common Pleas,
and Exchequer, while preserving for divisional
purposes the name of each. The Act also renders
it unnecessary that a judge, appointed after the
Act comes into force, should be a serjeant-at-law.
The variety of dress that is worn by the judges, at
different times throughout the year, is to be
accounted for by the fact of their being both
Serjeants and justices, or barons, as the case may
be. The line in Chaucer, speaking of the serjeant-
at-law, who of " robes had many one," no doubt
is as true now as it was then ; and although only
one kind of dress is worn at the bar, the others are
worn on the bench. I shall also be glad to hear
of any work that treats of the various robes as now
•worn. AN ATTORNEY-AT-LAW.
INNOCENTS' DAY : M_UFFLED PEAL. — This day,
called in Germany " Kinderrnesse," and in Eng-
land '; Childermas," used to be more strictly
observed in the olden time. The office for the
festival was one of sorrow ; the church bells were
always muffled, and in the Church Service the
Glwia in Excelsis, and often the Gloria Patri, was
omitted. In many parishes we are still reminded
that it is a red-letter day in our calendar by the
ringing of a muffled peal on the church bells. This
las been the case, from time immemorial, at
!hurchdown, and at Woodchester, in Gloucester-
shire ; also at Leigh-upon-Mendip, and Wells
"lathedral, in Somersetshire. And seeing how,
;hrough every passing year, Christmas-tide is
aecoming shorn of its ancient character, it is well
to make a note of such persistent usages. Some
of your readers may be able to extend the list of
places where the old custom in question still
ingers. F. S.
Churchdown.
CHARLES II. — Is there any record of an extra-
ordinarily fine Bible, Field's, 1660, being presented
to Charles II. at his coronation, or soon after ?
J. C. J.
SUPPOSED DISCOVERY OF A BRITISH STRONG-
HOLD AT GRASSINGTON : —
"A gentleman, who is well acquainted with the
beautiful country around Grassington (where it is pro-
posed to establish an hydropathic establishment), in the
course of his explorations in the neighbourhood, has
recently discovered some ruins in Grass Wood, which
appear to be the remains of a British fortress. The main
building, he states, has possessed three compartments of
a large size, and has been defended by an outer wall,
which runs from it for a considerable distance, and then
returns to its lower extremity. Within the circle of the
wall there has been another building, and hundreds of
tons of rubbish lie upon the ground. The ruins are upon
the highest hill in the picturesque wood, and cover about
half-an-acre of its surface. The position is most com-
manding. Northwardly can be seen Great Whernside,.
Kettlewell, Buckden, and the range of high hills in that
direction ; eastwardly the Valley of the Wharf e may be
traced in its devious discourse, to Simon's Seat and
Beamsley Beacon ; southwardly are the Rylstone and
Flasby Fells ; and westwardly the heights of Skierthorns
and the hills of Bast Lancashire. It is a prospect of
great beauty and extent. We are informed that it is in-
tended to explore the ruins with a view to ascertain to
what age of the world they belong." — Leeds Mercury.
The above information has not been followed
by any other particulars. Perhaps some corre-
spondent, or some member of the Grassington
Mechanics' Institute, will favour " N. & Q." with
a further account. JAMES HENRY DIXON.
STACEY GRIMALDI. — What article in the Ex-
cerpta Historica, published by Bentley, was.
written by the late Stacey Grimaldi, Esq.?
DEO JUVANTE.
SACRED VESSELS AND VESTMENTS.— In MR.
MACKENZIE WALCOTT'S paper on the "In-
ventory of Waltham Holy Cross," I find this : —
" A rnonstraunce of sylver gilte." Will he tell me,,
as the present result of his researches of the
inventories of the goods of the Church, what are
the earliest records of vessels or vestments used in
the service of the Benediction of the Holy Sacra-
ment, or the exposition of the same ? e. g., mon-
5» 8. 1. JAH. 3, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
strance, or ostensorium tabernacle, benediction
veil, &c. 1 H. A. W.
USE OF INVERTED COMMAS. — Why is it that
some half-educated persons use inverted commas
in the following odd way ? I quote from a genuine
letter — " This is very frequent in ' fever.' " What
idea could be in the mind of the writer, which led
him to distinguish a common noun in this manner ?
I have seen several other instances of similar
peculiarity. HERMENTRUDE.
METAL DISH. — I have an old massive white-
metal dish, weighing some 12 Ib. It is stamped
on the under side with an oval stamp, about the
size of a shilling, bearing the golden fleece between
two scrolls ; the upper one I cannot read ; the one
below has ELLIS. On the upper side it is engraved
with a shield, bearing a fess between two flaunches
ermine ; impaling ermine or chevron. Can any
of your readers give me the date of the dish from
the stamp, or inform me whose the armorial
bearings are ? W. M.
THE WAKON-BIRD. — I am very desirous of
knowing what bird it was which the North
American Indians called " wakon " in the days of
the first explorers of their country. Its size and
plumage are described by Carver, and it is, I
think, mentioned by Hennepin and Charlevoix,
though on this latter point I am not certain. I
once went carefully through Audubon's Birds of
America, but failed to find any description that
corresponded with Carver's. Moore alludes to the
"wakon-bird" in the following passage from his
"Epistle to Lady Charlotte Eawdon, from the
Banks of the St. Lawrence": —
" Then, when I have strayed a while
Through the Manatauliri isle,
Breathing all its holy bloom,
Swift upon the purple plume
Of my Wakon-Bird, I fly
Where, beneath a burning sky,
O'er the bed of Erie'a lake,
Slumbers many a water-snake,
Basking in the web of leaves
Which the weeping lily weaves."*
Eeferences to where any information on this
subject can be found will be very acceptable to
H. G.
THE WELSH TESTAMENT. — Was the Welsh
Testament now in use translated into Welsh
directly from the original Greek, or merely from
our English version ? Some interesting questions
would arise in the former alternative.
M. H. E.
* Foot-note to the above in Moore's Poetical Works : —
" The Wakon-Bird, which probably is of the same species
with the Bird of Paradise, receives its name from the
ideas the Indians have of its superior excellence; the
Wakon-Bird being, in their language, the ' Bird of the
Great Spirit.' "— MORSE.
EOTALIST DECLARATION OF APRIL 24, 1660. —
This Declaration, signed by loyalists and expressing
the moderation of their views and their confidence
in General Monck, is mentioned in Heber's Life of
Jeremy Taylor, p. xcvi. Where can the original
or copy of the above, with the signatures, be seen?
J. E. BAILEY.
" THE BEE PAPERS." — Would my friend V. EL
(4th S. xi. 104) kindly inform me where I can find
a copy of these 1 They are not among Goldsmith's
Essays. C. E. N.
THE MARSHALS OF FRANCE. — Some months
since I saw a newspaper paragraph stating the
names of several marshals of France who ha'd been
tried by court-martial and all condemned and
shot. Perhaps one of your correspondents can
inform me where I could find that paragraph, or
obtain information respecting those trials.
J. B. G.
ALTARS IN THE MIDDLE AGES. — Will any of
your ecclesiological readers kindly tell me where I
may find information respecting the material, size,
and consecration of stone altars in the Middle Ages,
particularly with regard to England ?
W. H. S.
Stqpltaf.
THE EARLIEST MENTION OF SHAKSPEARE—
CONSTABLE.
(4*h S. xi. 378, 491 ; xii. 179, 357, 417.)
Having laid aside for awhile my notes on Con-
stable, I ask a small space in which to reply to-
MR. ELLIOT BROWNE, who has not, I think, suffi-
ciently considered the circumstances when he ques-
tions "if Constable were sufficiently known in
1595 to be named publicly as Watson's heir."
Negative evidence is at all times doubtful, and the
negative evidence on which he relies especially so.
Spenser omits several poets : for instance, if JEtion
be Shakspeare, Warner, then held in the highest
estimation, is omitted ; if JEtion be Warner, then
he omits Shakspeare. Meres also omits several,
and among them the three Eornan Catholics,
Southwell, Constable, and Donne; and, in addition,
account must be taken of that pedantic peculiarity
by which he compares our poets with others by a
parallelism of numbers. If his lists be examined,
this will be found to be so constant that the differ-
ences, never exceeding one or two, maybe accounted
oversights.
The positive evidence, on the other hand, goes
to prove that Constable was never better known
than in and about the year 1595. The Diana, up
to the 22nd sonnet, was first published in 1592,
when Constable had left England, and they are
then called orphans. In a book misdated 1584,
probably for 1594, are' published seventy-six son-
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5<u S. I. JAN. 3, 74,
nets, twenty- seven only of which formed Constable's
Diana, yet it is entitled " Diana, by H. Constable,
with divers other1 quatorzains by honorable and
learned personages." Thus he is put in the fore-
front, and no other named, though two-thirds of
the sonnets are by others, and ten of these by Sir
P. Sidney. Although also Constable was in exile
for political causes, the book is dedicated to the
Maids of Honour, and Smith, the publisher of both
Dianas, adopts the phrase " orphan poems " from
the 1592 edition, and says —
" These Orphan poems : in whose right
Conceit first claym'd his byrth-right to enjoy."
It is said there were after editions in 1597 and
1604, but there seems to be no evidence of their
existence. In England's Parnassus (1600) there
are, I think, some ten or twelve quotations from
his published sonnets, and two from poems now
unknown ; he is quoted also in the Belvedere (1601),
and the laudatory notice of him in the Return from
Parnassus is of 1601 or 2. England's Helicon
(1601) contained other of his pieces, and it must
-be remembered that all these were compilations of
•known and esteemed pieces. The Venus and
Adonis, in especial, was probably written before
Shakspeare's Adonis of 1595. Contrary, also, to
the statements of his biographers, there is no evi-
dence to show that Constable was in England in
or after 1592 until the accession of James. There
.are no grounds for saying he was in England in
1595, and I can find no evidence for the statement
that he returned privately in 1601 or 2. Some of
his sonnets give the dates 1588, 1590, and 1591,
but none give any later than 1595, if so late, and
there is reason to believe that shortly after 1595
Constable, then abroad, gave up secular poetry, and
turned to religion and theological controversy.
Coupling all these things with the small amount
of his published poetry, and the great influx of the
poetry and verse of others, it may rather be con-
jectured that Constable, like Dyer, gradually fa4ed
from the public mind.
These, however, are not all the proofs of a repu-
tation earlier than 1595. James VI. did not print
many commendatory verses before his poetical
exercises in 1591, but the first is a sonnet by Con-
stable, and as it is the first so is his name printed
in larger capitals than that of any other. Simi-
larly, no commendatory verses, nor even elegies,
were printed before any of Sidney's works, save
and except one. Constable wrote a sonnet to the
Countess of Pembroke, and as may be seen by the
sonnet itself, he sent with it the praises of her
brother. These, in the form of four sonnets, were
prefixed to The Defense of Poesy in 1595. These
words also, " Watson's heir," led me to think o
Constable, and that for two reasons. Sonnets wer<
then in vogue as one of the most perfect forms o
verse, and while Watson's chief poetical works in
English were sonnets, so it was those on which his
nore general fame rested. Thus Davison's quota-
ions are ten of the Ecatompathia ; the twenty-four
[notations in the Parnassus are also from the same,
and so are four out of the five in the Helicon ; so
also in Meres his name is paralleled with Petrarch's,
'n Watson's heir, therefore, I looked for a newer
ionneteer rather than a pastoral poet ; and,
iecondly, I took the word heir as peculiarly appro-
bate to Constable, for his sonnets were first pub-
ished in 1592, the year in which Watson died.
Thus it will be seen that the hypothesis that
Constable was Watson's heir is somewhat more
han what MR. ELLIOT BROWNE terms a guess.
Fraunce, whom he thinks a better guess, did not,
30 far as is known, write sonnets, and Emanuel
xcepted, his known poetry consists of translations
only. Besides his chief pastoral, Phillis and
Amynlas, translated from Watson and Tasso, was
irst published in 1587, with what Mr. Arbor justly
alls a dishonest' preface, for Watson's name is
neither mentioned nor hinted at, a suppression
pointedly resented by Watson himself in the pre-
face to his English Melibtzus in 1590. It is, no
doubt, proved by the different editions of the Phillis
and Amyntas that Fraunce was for a while, and
inclusive of 1595, in a certain esteem. But some-
thing must be put down to the fames of Watson
and Tasso, and something as due to curiosity and
;lique at a time when an attempt was made to
naturalize the classic metres ; and I cannot bring
myself to believe that so poor and strange a versi-
fier as was Fraunce could ever be considered as
Watson's true successor. Webbe, a favourer and
practiser of the new metres, seems to mention him
in 1586, and Meres does so in 1598. But there is
no notice of him in anything that remains of G.
Harvey, the inventor and supporter of English
hexameters ; and besides Lodge, I know of no others
who speak of him, for that he is the Coridon of
Colin Clouf's Come Home Again is one of Malone's
most unsatisfactory guesses. B. NICHOLSON.
In reply to MR. C. ELLIOT BROWNE'S query (p.
417), I beg to state that I quoted (p. 357) from the
British Museum copy of Willobie his Avisa, 1594
[4to.]. From canti xliv. to xlvii. of this poem it
would seem that Willobie and Shakspeare were
" faythfull frends." The whole passage has, I see,
appeared in " N. & Q.," 2nd S. ix. 59. The mystery
of the authorship of the Hexameton is, I suppose,
couched under the words " Vigilantius : Dormi-
tanus," and perhaps the preceding words (which
are Virgil's, transposed), "Contraria Contrariis,"
contain the clue to the interpretation of the former.
JABEZ.
Athenaeum Club.
MARKS ON PORCELAIN (4th S. xii. 472.) — As an
instalment towards a full reply to W. N. Y., of
New York, I beg to say that I made it my business
5" S. I. JAN. 3, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
11
to call upon one of the most courteous, as well as
most extensive, dealers in old china in this metro-
polis (London), and communicated to him the
query as to the mark or visa presumed by your
•correspondent to be that of Brogniart. His answer
was that in the course of his experience he had
never, within his recollection, come across such an
inscription on Sevres ; but, he added, and this I
can substantiate from my own knowledge, there
are, in numerous instances, marks scratched in
under the glaze upon hard paste Sevres of the First
Empire and Kestoration periods. I will push
further inquiries elsewhere on this point. Regard-
ing the pieces of the breakfast set, I would say that
the marks would seem to indicate Sevres of 1781,
that year's series of fictilia being known by the
letters D D; that the crown over the double inter-
laced L signifies that the pieces so marked were for
royal use, or for presents from royalty ; that the
letters B D, if cursive capitals, would seem to be
the signature of Baudouin, who painted ornaments
and friezes ; that the three dots, if alone, would
form the mark of Tandrart (perhaps the " straight
line, with three dots or elevations," as described
by W. N. Y., is the heraldic label, upside-down,
of Viellard); but that in these matters of keramics,
"1'habit ne fait pas le moine," and so much depends
upon the form, the texture, the style of ornamen-
tation, and the gilding, that it is useless to
attempt to give an authoritative opinion, from
marks alone, as to the genuine or false character of
specimens of porcelain.
If, however, W. N. Y. thinks it worth while to
send to my address below a private communication,
•covering sketches of the shapes of the pieces he
possesses, with tracings of the marks on the
porcelain, and a full description of the colours and
pattern of the decoration, I shall be happy to
secure further consideration for his specimens by
practical professional men, as well as by myself,
aa amateur student of thirty-five years' standing.
In the mean time, if he would submit one of his
breakfast pieces to Mr. Barnet Phillips, of the
New York, Times, I think that that gentleman
would be able to give a shrewd opinion respecting
the true or fictitious nature of the ware.
I quite agree with W. N. Y., that there are
fields to sport over, for keramic game, in America
(one of my very best bits was bagged, for a trifle,
at New York). Old Wedgwood ware should be
abundant, as it was exported so largely. Of Sevres
pate tendre, I am doubtful whether much could be
discovered ; it was always so costly to produce,
and was not an article of commerce ; unless,
indeed, I may except the fictitiously decorated
soft-paste ware, issued about 1&15 by dealers who
purchased the undecorated surplus stock at the
royal manufactory, palming it off, when coloured
up, as eighteenth century production, and flooding
Europe therewith, and probably America too.
" Tis true, 'tis pity ; pity 'tis 'tis true " that
there is no art museum at New York. Now, how-
ever, that the " Cesnola " Collection is secured,
surely those interested will not confine their
attention to the antiquities the General exhumed,
but will gradually increase their range, and select
specimens of Maiolica, of Sevres and Dresden, of
Frankenthal and Capo di Monte, &c. Arms and
armour, decorative furniture, Venetian and Bo-
hemian glass, metal-work, enamels, plate and
jewellery, tapestries and brocades and lace, all
crave attention ; and good examples of various
schools meet with high respect, not only on
account of their own intrinsic beauties, but also
on account of their value in art-training, and in
moulding the taste and skilled manufactures of
any country. In these respects, South Kensington
Museum offers a splendid model for imitation on
Manhattan Island, and thousands of refined and
intellectual Americans must crave for such an in-
stitution, and should agitate for its establishment.
I should dearly like to help my Transatlantic friends
in so good a cause. CRESCENT.
3, Homefield Road, Wimbledon, S.W.
P.S. Duesbury's Crown Derby china bears marks
which do not at all resemble those on Sevres
porcelain.
RISE IN THE VALUE OF PROPERTY IN SCOT-
LAND (4th S. xii. 490.) — The information given by
DR. RAMAGE on this subject is very interesting,
but is somewhat marred by the inaccurate manner
in which the equations are made between the
Scotch and English currency. We are told that a
rent of 200L Scots, paid in 1624, represents 101.
sterling, that is, a pound Scots equals a shilling.
The next receipt is in 1731, for 5991 17s. 4d. Scots,
which DR. RAMAGE says is about 282. This would
be at the rate of 11 id. per pound Scots. A third
entry makes 81. 6s. Scots equal 8s. English.
Now the pound Scots was in reality Is. Sd. ster-
ling, as is generally pretty well known, a Scots
shilling being equal to an English penny, or, in
other words, the Scottish currency was one-twelfth
the value of the English, with the same denomina-
tions. This is shown clearly enough by the very
documents quoted by DR. RAMAGE. The receipts
given for the rental of Wraiths and Kirkland,
391Z. 11s. 4d. Scots, DR. RAMAGE states, represent
about 181. sterling, which is a fraction over lid.
per pound sterling ; but the same rents, when
represented a few lines lower down in sterling
money, are stated to be 321. 12s. 7 '-fad., which is
exactly at the rate of Is. 8d. per pound Scots, the
fraction of 4 proving that the sum in pounds Scots
was divided by twelve.
Apropos of this, a story is recorded of Scott
which well illustrates his shrewdness and humour.
When Lady Anne Lindsay brought out her fine
song of Auld Robin Gray, it was under the guise
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5th S. I. JAN. 3, 74.
of an old ballad, which was for a time believed.
Scott meeting Lady Anne at an evening party
where the song was sung, slily remarked to the
authoress on the line —
" To mak' the croon a pund, young Jamie went to sea,"
that Jamie must have been a daft chiel to go to
sea to make five shillings into one and eightpence.
The fact is the crown was a purely English coin,
first minted by Edward VI. in 1553.
Your readers will remember the inimitable scene
in Old Mortality, when the troopers burst in on
the family circle at Milnwood, and the old miser,
in bitterness of spirit, screws himself up to say —
" ' If twenty p — p — punds would make up this un-
happy matter ' —
" ' My master,' insinuated Alison to the sergeant, ' would
give twenty punds sterling ' —
" ' Punds Scotch, ye h — h,' interrupted Milnwood.
'"Funds sterling,' insisted the housekeeper."
The Scotch coinage was cancelled at the Union
in 1707 as a circulating medium, but it was neces-
sarily continued as money of account for some
time longer. By the documents in question it
would appear that from 1739 the accounts were
kept in sterling money. J. A. PICTON.
Sandyknowe, Wavertree.
FUNERAL GARLANDS (4th S. xii. 406, 480.)— The
funeral garland was undoubtedly an imitation " of
the radiant coronet prepared for virgin souls," the
crown of victory, to which Keble (Wednesday
before Easter, Christian Year} and Jeremy Taylor
(Holy Living, c. xi. s. 3) allude. In the legend of
St. Cecilia, an angel gives her a crown of roses and
lilies from paradise, saying, none but the pure can
see them (Aur. Leg., 220). Weever says the
funeral garland was given to a widow who had but
one husband (Fun. Mon., 12). A marriage crown,
or past, was often lent to poorer brides from the
church stock. In 1733, at Bromley, Kent, a funeral
crown, made of gold and silver, like myrtle leaves,
and- lined with cloth of silver, was dug up. In the
neighbourhood of London these garlands were
carried by two young girls before the dead, anc
then hung up in the church ; till at the beginning
of the last century they were forbidden to be sei
up, or were actually removed, but they had become
merely hoops of artificial flowers, ribbons, anc
paper gloves bearing the name of the departed
with an hour-glass or eggs to resemble bubbles.
Whitaker, in his History of Craven (p. 406)
mentions paper garlands used at the funerals o
maidens, inscribed with their names, and hung on
the lattice of the chancels, in Wharfdale. There
was one at Hanwood, Salop, some years since.
The custom is as old as the time of Elizabeth
The Priest says of Ophelia, —
" Yet, here she is allowed her virgin-crawfe [kranz],
Her maiden strewments, and the bringing home
Of bell and burial."
Wren, Bishop of Ely in 1662, asked at his visi-
ation, —
Are any mean toyes and childish gewgaws, such as
be fonder sort of people prepare at some burials,
uffered to be fastened up in your church at anyone's
leaaurel or any Garlands and other ordinary funeral
nsigns to hang where they hinder the prospect or until
hey grow foul and dusty, withered and rotten ? "
The use of flowers strewn upon graves is far
more ancient, as Prudentius says (Cathem., b. x., v.
169-170):—
" Nos tecta fovebimus ossa
Violis et fronde frequenti."
Laurel, ivy, or other evergreens, were put into
he coffin ; and Baronius says that in the fourth
;entury the palm and the olive, symbols of victory
md joy, were carried in the funeral procession
(Greg. Turon. de Glor. Conf., c. 84 ; Durand. Div.
')ff., lib. viii., c. 35 ; Annal. ad Ann., 310, n. 10).
Shakspeare, in his Dirge of Love, says : —
" My shroud of white, stuck all with yew,
0 prepare it.
Not a flower, not a flower sweet,
On my black coffin let there be strown."
MACKENZIE E. C. WALCOTT.
See Gent. Mag., xvii. 264. I remember seeing
some in a village church near Doncaster, about
;wenty-five years ago. J. T. F.
Hatfield Hall, Durham.
CRESTS OF KNIGHTS OF THE GARTER (4th S. xii.
444.) — Will the REV. J. WOODWARD, who com-
plains, in your paper of the 6th December, of the
manner in which the crests of the Knights of the
Garter are placed over the stalls on the north side
of St. George's Chapel at Windsor, explain how
they could be placed in any other manner 1 He
says they turn their tails to the Communion Table.
Now all crests representing animals face to the
right, unless they face directly to the front, there-
fore the crests on the north side of St. George's
generally face the organ, and those on the south
side face the Communion Table.
" NOR" FOR " THAN " (4th S. xii. 388, 502.)— I
have not got the volume of Tytler here, but if MR.
RANDOLPH will refer to the passages he will find
there is no error. I have also found another case
in the same work, from a Scotchman writing in
1600 (Tytler, ix. 300), " I wish nothing better nor
io achieve," &c. This the historian in a note ex-
plains " nor " by " than," which he did not happen
to do before. LYTTELTON.
A Highlander comparing the two little towns
of Tain and Dornoch, said, " Tain is no better nor
Dornoch, nor Dornoch nor Tain." C.
" I know no more about it nor the man in the
moon," and "I would rather have this nor that,"
are examples of a very general use of this idiom
in Lancashire. R. E.
Farnworth.
5th fi. I. JAN. 3, '74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
13
A STUBBORN FACT (4th S. xii. 469).— Far be it
from me to attack the faith either of MR. JAMES
or of his friend the Captain ; nor do I, of course,
deny the possibility of such apparitions as are
here related ; but I must think that they are very
much less common than is sometimes thought. I
hold it to be perfectly possible that the operations
of the mind may produce, in some men, such an
effect upon the eyes as would be caused by an
actual appearance presented to them, while in others
no such thing will take place. I also grant that a
strong conviction is sometimes found of such
matters as the death of a friend or relation, which is
difficult to account for ; but I contend that this is
quite apart from the question of apparitions. Thus,
then, I would explain MR. JAMES'S story : that
such a conviction produced on the officer's eyes an
effect such as I have mentioned. The difficulty is,
of course, to distinguish between a case like this
and an actual apparition of a disembodied spirit,
of which I think no man who has considered the
matter can deny the possibility; and in many
cases I am quite ready to say this is most difficult,
perhaps sometimes impossible. But one plain
criterion is1 the presence or absence of a sufficient
end, or at any rate the possibility of the existence
of a sufficient end, for which Almighty God should
permit such an apparition ; and this is one reason
why I am disposed to think that MR. JAMES'S
story is not an apparition. What end did it serve
that the officer in England became aware of the
death of him in Kussia a few days sooner than he
otherwise would have known it ? The other cir-
cumstances are of little importance ; the coincidence
of time is a most difficult matter to ascertain ex-
actly ; one would like to see it, if possible, properly
and astronomically calculated ; also to which ap-
pearance did it refer? for there were two, and,
perhaps, as much as five or ten minutes between
them. Indeed, this very fact of there being two
is in my favour, for it is easy to think that the
presence and conversation of the Captain disturbed
the ideas of the other officer so as to remove or
lessen the effect on his eyes, which returned when
he was left alone ; while the " red mark on the
forehead " is likely enough to occur to a soldier
thinking of a soldier's death.
With regard, therefore, to the general question,
if the fact of the real or fanciful appearance is well
authenticated, as this on the whole seems to be, I
would admit it ; but where there is no evidence
that it was an actual spiritual apparition, I would
account for it in some such way as I have now
tried to do for MR. JAMES'S story. But I cannot
help saying — though it has been said before — how
remarkable it is that one never gets such stories at
first-hand. To take the' present instance : MR.
JAMES has his, not from the officer to whom it
happened, but from another ; and so it will almost
always be. MR. JAMES'S story is second-hand,
and to us third-hand ; and though I have heard
one or two of the kind myself, one of which came
under the knowledge of an uncle, I never had them
at all directly. CHARLES F. S. WARREN, M.A.
" LOGARTS LIGHT " (4th S. xiL 474.) — This does
not mean any particular kind of light, but a light
in a particular part of the church. Loga=Logium
Du Cange renders by " ^Edes, habitatio, domicilium,"
but says;that its truer meaning is andronem, xystum,
a place for conversation or discourse. In course of
time it was restricted to a less general sense, and
used only of the stage of a theatre, Aoyiov, TO TOU
Oedrpov, pulpitum, in which sense Vitruvius uses
it (1. v., c. 8). From this it came to signify the
reading-desk in churches, anibo, and afterwards the
place from which the sermon was delivered, what
we now call the pulpit. Taking, then, Logo, =
Aoyeiov, a speaking-place, as the equivalent of our
word pulpit, I understand "Logarys Light" to
mean light for the pulpit ; and have no doubt in
my own mind that this was the nature of the be-
quests referred to by your correspondent.
In days like these of composites and dips, this
may seem but a sorry legacy, but those, it must be
remembered, were days in which people did not
"serve God beggarly," and "give Him of that
which cost them nothing." They gave Him of
their best, and to the best of their ability, and no
doubt this " Logarys Light " would be of the cost-
liest wax, and the comeliest mould.
EDMUND TEW, M.A.
THE LATIN VERSION OF BACON'S "ESSAYS"
(4th S. xii. 474.)— The first edition of Bacon's Works
printed in England (1730) gives, on page 299 of
vol. iii., the dedications to the three editions of the
Essays which were published in their author's life-
time. They bear the respective dates, 1597, 1612,
1625, and it is only in the last one that any allusion
is made to a Latin version. The third edition is
inscribed to the Duke of Buckingham, and the
following sentence occurs in the dedication : —
" I have enlarged them (the Essays) both in number
and weight; so that they are indeed a new work. I
thought it therefore agreeable to my affection and
obligation to your grace, to prefix your name before them
both in English and in Latin : For I do conceive, that
the Latin volume of them (being in the universal lan-
guage) may last as long as books last."
Archbishop Tenison, in his Introduction to the
Baconiana, p. 60, says : —
" His Lordship wrote them (the Essays) in the English
tongue, and enlarged them as occasion served. . . . The
Latin translation of them was a work performed by divers
hands ; by those of Dr. Hacket (late bishop of Lichfield),
Mr. Benjamin Johnson (the learned and judicious poet),
and some others, whose names I once heard from Dr.
Rawley, but I cannot now recal them. To this Latin
edition he gave the title of Sermones Fideles."
J. CHARLES Cox.
Hazelwood, Belper.
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[501 S. I. JAN. 3, 74.
THE SURNAME "BARNES" (4th S. xii. 496.)—
The Spanish surname is probably not related to
the English name. Barnes is the appellation of a
place, prov. Oviedo, and of two localities, prov.
Zaragoza. The local name may possibly be con-
nected with that of Barnais (Ba/rnacis), for which
Madoz suggests an etymology. There is also a
place called Barniedo, prov. Leon, and Barnades is
a Spanish surname.
" GORDANO" (4th S. xii. 495.)— Rutter (Delinea-
tions of N.-W. Div. of S., Lond., 1829) derives the
-distinctive appellation of Weston in Gordano from
the ancient family of De Gordano, who had large
possessions in the vicinity. ' K. S. CHARNOCK.
Gray's Inn.
SARAH, DUCHESS OF MARLBOROUGH (4th S. xii.
495.) — There are several portraits of this lady at
Althorp, in which her hair is always of the colour
•described by J. W. LYTTELTON.
J. W. inquires what was the colour of this lady's
hair. Kneller's portrait, which was in the
.National Portrait Exhibition, proves this hair to
have been of a pale honey colour, and, doubtless,
•of a very pure and rich tint. Your correspondent
will remember the pathetic anecdote which relates
how, being once in a towering rage with her hus-
band, who admired her hair as her chief ornament,
she, to spite him, cut off her abundant tresses, laid
them on a table in an anteroom, where the duke
found them, and put them in his cabinet, where,
after his death, she discovered them among his
most valued treasures. F. G. S.
QUOTATION FROM BACON WANTED (4th S. xii.
496.) — Your correspondent will find the passage he
asks for in Bacon's Essay Of Unity in Religion.
The words quoted by the member of Parliament,
as given in Hume and Smollett's History, are not
the exact words of Bacon, who says : —
" There be two false peaces, or unities ; the one, when
the peace is grounded but upon an implicit ignorance ;
for all colours will agree in the dark ; the other, when it
is pieced up upon a direct admission of contraries in
fundamental points : for truth and falsehood, in such
things, are like the iron and clay in the toes of Nebu-
chadnezzar's image ; they may cleave, but they will not
incorporate."
W. DILKE.
Chichester.
"QUILLET" (4th S. xii. 348.)— This word, in
the sense described, is in very common use in
Cheshire. There is seldom a farm to be sold or
let, but a " quillet " is mentioned in the advertise-
ment, and in the sense quoted by Halliwell in his
Archaic Dictionary, as current in Devonshire,
" a croft or grass yard." WM. DOBSON.
Preston.
"MEDULLA HISTORIC ANGLICANS" (4th S. xii
449.) — This work was written by William Howell
;he author of the once well-known Institution of
eneral History. It long continued one of the
most popular manuals of English history. The
twelfth edition was published in 1766, with a
ontinuation to the accession of George III.
C. ELLIOT BROWNE.
WALKING-CANES (4th S. xii. 472.) — I have the
landle of a cane of old Chelsea porcelain. It is a
rather graceful female head, and the cane proceeds
rom the neck. P. P.
SWIFT'S "FOUR LAST YEARS OF QUEEN ANNE"
(4th S. xii. 484.) — We think this is not a spurious
work. We have a copy, and here is the title : —
" The History of the Four Last Years of the Queen.
By the late Jonathan Swift, D.D.D.S.P.D. Published
"rom the last Manuscript Copy. Corrected and enlarged
}y the Author's own Hand " (see more at large in Pre-
face). London, Printed for A. Millar, in the Strand,
1758.
SUTER & Co.
22, Cheapside.
"TOUT VIENT A POINT," &c. (4th S. xii. 268,
315, 377, 482.) — I have somewhere read of this as
an Arabic proverb. HERMENTRUDE.
DRINKING HOGAN (1st S. iii. 450 ; 4th S. vii.
430, 481, 524.) — Twenty-two years ago a query of
mine, based upon the poet Gray's use of this
expression, was inserted in " N. & Q." No reply
was vouchsafed. Eighteen years later another
querist took up the subject with little better
result. I am anxious now, in this Fifth Series,
to recur once more to the matter. As to the
meaning of the compound expression, "hogen
rnogen," all are agreed : its equivalent in our
tongue is, unquestionably, high and mighty. But
the question to which I in 1851, and W. P. again
in 1871, wished for a reply, is, as the latter puts it,
" What was the drink so called 1" In addition to
Gray's verdict on its potency, by commending his
friend for not drinking the hogan which would lay
him in the dust, I have met with two earlier
allusions to it. Gay, in his ballad of Molly Mog ;
or, the Fair Maid of the Inn, has this stanza : —
"Those who toast all the family royal,
In bumpers of Hogan and Nog,
Have hearts not more true or more loyal,
Than mine to my sweet Molly Mog."
And Taylor the Water Poet, in his Certain Travels
of an Uncertain Journey, published in 1653 (I
quote from the Spenser Society's elegant reprint),
when on his
" female beast born,
To an unknown feast born, at a Towae cal'd East Bourne,"
" There was a high and mighty drink called Rug.
Sure since the Reigne of great King Gorbodug,
Was never such a rare infus'd confection."
And he ascribes to
. I. JAH. 3, 74.]
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15
" Hogen Mogen Rugs, great influences
To provoke sleep, and stupifie the sences."
At the close of his poem he
" found most potent admirable Ale,
'Tis second to no drink but Ecat-Bourne Rug."
The italics are all Taylor's.
Now, not to trail a red herring across the scent
by asking what Gay and the " Water-Poet " (not
it would seem, water-drinker) respectively mean
by " Nog " and " Kug," it is clear the drink calle
Hogan was an unusually powerful tipple, whateve
its components were.
HENRY CAMPKIN, F.S.A.
THE CISTERCIANS (4th S. xii. 474.) — Jongelinu
(folio, Antwerp, MDCXXXX.) is the acknowledged
text-book as to the history of the Cistercian Order
He gives a full account of the foundation, rise, am
progress of the Order, and a sketch of the estab-
lishment of the abbeys connected with it every
where up to the period he wrote. The title-pag
of this elaborate work consists of a finely executec
copper-plate engraving, designed, as well as I re-
member, by Peter Paul Rubens. In Borne,* in
1864, was printed La Trappe Congregation
Moines de t'Ordre Binedictins-Cisterciens, an ex-
ceedingly scarce and valuable pamphlet, of 39 pp.
8vp., which gives an account of the Order as it
existed in that year ; and which shows that " La
Trappe est 1'Ordre deCiteaux, les Trappistes sont de
vrais Cisterciens." On the death of Cardinal Marini
on the 15th of April, 1864, His Holiness Pio Nono,
in an autograph letter, graciously deigned to name
Cardinal Antonelli " Protecteur de la Congregation
des Trappistes de Tune et 1'autre observance." The
pamphlet consists of a very full report to Cardinal
Antonelli of the state of the Order as it then
stood, and it states that the number of monks
enrolled in the Order in that year (1864) and
" under the province of France " was 3,000.
MAURICE LENIHAN, M.K.I.A.
The following works may be consulted with ad-
vantage : — Dugdale's Monasticon, pp. 695-702,
folio ; Maitland's The Dark Ages, pp. 352, et
sequent., 8vo., 1845 ; Milman's Latin Christianity,
vol. iv., p. 308, 12mo., 1867, and Canon Robertson's
History of the Christian Church, vol. ii. pp. 796, et
seq., 8vo., 1868. To these also may be added
Jeremy Collier's Ecclesiastical History of Great
Britain, vol. i., p. 276, fol., 1708. The Order
came over into England A.D. 1128, and settled first
at the Abbey of Waverly, Surrey.
EDMUND TEW, M.A.
I suppose the leading book on the Cistercian
Order would be a thick quarto, entitled —
" Privilegium de Confirmatione, Statutorum et Con-
ventus Cisterciensis, ut sunt carta caritas, usua Ordinis,
et ea que antiqua dicuntur Cisterc. Instituta. A.D. 1498."
* Imprimerie Forense, 1864.
Dugdale's Monasticon, Tanner's Notitia Mo-
nastica, are, of course, obvious sources for informa-
tion. Also Annales Monastici, 5 vols., published
in the Rolls series. An article in the Christian
Remembrancer, July, 1867, might also be referred
to, and Geddes's Miscellaneous Tracts, vol. ii.
JOHN TAYLOR.
THE CAROL "JOSEPH WAS AN OLD MAN" (4th
S. xii. 494.) — This carol is known as the " Cherry-
tree Carol." It has been printed by Hone (Ancient
Mysteries, 90); Sandys (Christmas Carols Anc. and
Mod., 123); Husk (Songs of the Nativity, 58); and
by other collectors. I have a great respect for the
memory of Mr. Sedding, but he was a mere tyro in
traditional literature, and added nothing to existing
collections. Had he lived longer, the case might
have been different. The legend of the cherry-tree
is undoubtedly very ancient, and the carol is prob-
ably of some antiquity. It has always been a great
favourite with the peasantry, and a variety of
traditional versions exist in the various English
counties. MR. PAUL is right in supposing that he
has portions of two distinct carols. If he desires
to know more on this interesting subject, I beg to
refer him to the latest and best authority — my
friend Mr. Husk's valuable book before mentioned.
EDWARD F. RIMBAULT.
" PRESTER JOHN " AND THE ARMS OF THE SEE
OF CHICHESTER (4th S. xii. 228, 294, 457.) — MR.
MACKENZIE WALCOTT is certainly right, although
his view seems to surprise MR. TEW. I thought
the old fable which connected the mythical Prester
John with the charge of the arms of the See of
Chichester was by this time utterly exploded ; and
I flattered myself that I had had some small share
in bringing about so desirable a consummation.
I need not repeat here what I have written more
at length elsewhere on the subject, further than to
say that there is not the slightest connexion
between Prester John and the See, or its arms ;
while the seal of Bishop Seffrid II. does give us
the effigy of our blessed Redeemer seated as in the
book of the Revelation, i. 16 ; ii. 12-16 ; xix. 15-21.
To these passages I beg to .direct MR. TEW'S atten-
tion as explanatory of the sword, and as quite
proving my case. The heraldic works. to which
MR. TEW refers have no authority in the face of
the fact above ; and, indeed, one writer only
;opied from another the blazon of which he could
not offer a reasonable explanation.
I was not in time to prevent " Prester John ""
rom appearing in his old guise on the seal of the
>resent excellent Bishop (long may he be spared
o the Church, and to his See). The seal was
already engraved (and, as the Bishop said, " I fear
wrongly ") before my explanation was in his hands.
JOHN WOODWARD.
St. Mary's Parsonage, Montrose.
The ancient seals of the See are my authority
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5th S. I. JAN. 3, '74.
(see Dallaway, pp. 37, 124). They show no mitre
or crown, but an aureole ; no mound, but the Book
of Life ; no tombstone, but a throne, with the
sacred monogram A.M., and the motto, " Ego sum
Via, Veritas, et Vita." The church was dedicated
to the Holy Trinity, and as at Norwich, Christ-
church, Hants, &c., the dedication was called
either Holy Trinity or Christchurch, hence the
arms of the See. The blunders in the blazon date
from the latter part of the seventeenth century,
with the additions usually made by copyists who
do not care for original research. I have given to
the Cathedral library casts of the ancient seals yet
extant. MACKENZIE E. C. WALCOTT.
EEV. E. GEE (4th S. xii. 439, 501.)— The Eev.
E. Gee, rector of St. Benedict, Paul's Wharf, pub-
lished the following useful and interesting
" Catalogue of all the Discourses published against
Popery during the Beign of King James II., by the
members of the Church of England, and by the Non-
conformists, with the names of the Authors to them."
London, 1689.
These discourses are 231 in number, of which
228 were written by eminent members of the
Church of England, and 3 only by Nonconformists.
Mr. Gee himself was the author of 12 of the dis-
courses. The Eev. F. Peck subsequently pub-
lished
" A complete Catalogue of all the Discourses written
both for and against Popery, in the time of King
James II., containing in the whole an account of 457
Books and Pamphlets, a great number not mentioned in
the three former Catalogues." London, 1735.
Of these 457 the members of the Church of
England were the authors of 319, and 138 emanated
from members of the Church of Eome. The
discourses in favour of Popery were comparatively
few in number and feeble in execution. Even
Lord Macaulay, who has given a lively account of
the controversy, admits that " it was impossible
for any intelligent and candid Eoman Catholic to
deny that the champions of his Church were, in
every talent and acquirement, completely over-
matched" (History of England, third edition,
vol. ii. p. 110). I need hardly add that the anti-
Popery tracts above referred to formed the basis of
Bishop Gibson's Preservation against Popery. I
am the fortunate possessor of a copy of each of the
discourses enumerated in Mr. Gee's Catalogue (with
four exceptions), an announcement which may be
interesting to future disputants.
E. C. HARINGTON.
The Close, Exeter.
PENANCE IN THE CHURCH or ENGLAND (4th S.
xii. 169, 213, 298, 416.)~Aswell as others, I have
a desire to ascertain what was the latest instance
of church penance, and have waited to see if any-
one had later experience than I, as an actual
witness. I have a distinct and vivid remembrance
of being present, either in 1826 or 1827, when I
was about ten years old, at service at St. Mary's,
Islington, and of seeing a penitent in a white sheet,
which covered her face, standing at the beginning
of the aisle, at the foot of the steps going up to the
gallery. The penitent had, I believe, a taper in
her hand, but I will not vouch for this ; it made a
strong impression on my mind as a boy. I shall
be glad to hear if there are any later instances.
JOHN SMART.
Budleigh Salterton.
In Keble's Life of Bishop) Wilson may be seen
in detail the constant efforts made by the Bishop
in the Isle of Man, through his long episcopate, to
enforce discipline through penance. He succeeded
to a great extent, but I think it collapsed after his
death. LTTTELTON.
EMPRESS ELIZABETH II. or EussiA(4th S. xii. 27,
93, 198.) — Was there not a descendant of Her
Majesty, long living in Jamaica, who manned
her cruiser with her slaves, and left a daughter,
now living in England? HANNAH KEOGH.
EUTHANASIA (4th S. xi. 276, 352 ; xii. 9.)— The
common-sense view of this matter appears to be
expressed by Southey, in a letter to Blanco White
(White's Life, by Thorn, v. i., p. 421):—
"Nurses used to pluck the pillow and bolster from
under the head of persons in the act of death, under a
notion that the sufferer could not die if there were any
pigeon's feathers in them. Perhaps what they did under
this persuasion was first done to cut short the agonies of
death, and the notion originally imagined to afford an
excuse for it. It is said of Doctor Heberden that he
ordered his own son to be bled when the agony began,
saying, 'he will now die easier.' For obvious reasons
this practice can never be allowed, but I wish it were
thought unlawful to torment the dying with applications
which cannot avail to any other end than of prolonging
their sufferings and keeping them from their rest."
C. ELLIOT BROWNE.
DIVINING EOD (1st S. viii., ix., x., xi., xii. ; 2nd
S. i. 243 ; 4th S. xii. 412.)— It is worth while
adding to what has appeared on this subject that
the divining rod is still in use on the Mendip Hills.
See Geological Magazine, ix. 528. (Nov., 1872).
JAMES BRITTEN.
" A TOAD UNDER A HARROW " (4th S. xii. 126,
339, 437.) — Although not a toad, yet one of its
nearest congeners is represented as thus comport-
ing himself in this awkward predicament ; and
so far supporting the view suggested at p. 437, by
the passage in Rob Roy.
Wickliffe, in one of his homilies, says : — '
" Christian men may well say, as the poet in the fable
represents the frogs as saying to the harrow, ' Cursed be
so many masters.' For in this day Christian men are
oppressed now with popes, and now with bishops, now
with cardinals under popes, and now with prelates under
bishops."
F. S.
Churchdown.
a S. I. JAN. 3, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
17
The meaning of this proverb is simple enough
when it is quoted in full. The following version of it
I quote from a tale now publishing in Good Words
("The Prescotts of Pamphillon ") :— " I'm like a
toad under a harrow, I don't know whichee corse
to steer." H. FISHWICK.
This old proverb is not at all in familiar use in
New England ; but when used it is for the purpose
of expressing a state of mind the very reverse of
serene. Yet, unlike most proverbs, it does not
appear to hold an altogether clear meaning. Per-
haps it is for this reason that New England people
more commonly make use of it to form a simile
which relates to looks, not to feelings. Thus it is
here said of a person who puts on, or is wearing,
an unbecoming or conspicuous head-dress, that it
makes him "look like a toad under a narrow."
This expression may very likely be common else-
where in the States, or in England. An analogous
simile to this — among New Hampshire people at
any rate — is to the effect that a person, or thing,
that by certain surroundings is made to appear
rather insignificant, " looks like a spider in a pan
of milk." JAMES M. LEWIN.
Boston, Mass., U.S.
POPE'S VIEWS OF RELIGION IN ENGLAND (4th S.
xii. 493.) — It is hardly fair to extract one para-
graph from a letter, such as that written by Pope
to Swift on the 20th of June, 1716, and propose
to criticize it as an exposition of Pope's views.
The whole letter is written in a spirit of bitter yet
playful discontent, and a passage in it a few lines
lower down well illustrates this ; the writer says : —
" This is not a time for any man to talk to the purpose ;
Truth is a kind of contraband commodity, which I
would not venture to export."
The spirit in which Pope wrote was quite
understood by Swift, who in his reply, dated the
30th of August, 1716, says :—
" I take your project of employment under the Turks
to be idle and unnecessary. Have a little patience, and
you will find more merit and encouragement at home."
No criticism would be just on this letter, with-
out taking into consideration Pope's former life,
his previous letters, and the political circumstance
of the period. EDWARD SOLLY.
SCOTTISH TITLES (4th S. xii. 349, 396.) — It was
usual, certainly, for the wives of the Scottish
lairds, domini or barons, including those of the
baronets and knights, but not those of such
" landed proprietors " as did not hold their lands
in capite, to be called by the names of their
husbands' estates. Sir John Schaw, mentioned by
Sir B. Burke, was dominus, or laird, of Greenock,
in Renfrewshire. His wife was the lady of Sir
John Shaw of Greenock, or, shortly, Lady Greenock.
There was Margaret Hamilton, often arraigned
before the Presbytery of Paisley for Romish pro-
clivities, and who was called the " Gudewyfe of
Ferguslee," another Renfrewshire estate. She was
the wife of John Wallace of Ferguslee, a son of
Wallace of Ellerslee or Johnston ; and the reason
why she was designed " Gudewyfe," and not
" Lady," was, that Ferguslee was held by her, or
her husband, not immediately under the Crown, but
under Lord Abercorn, a subject superior, the Crown
vassal. L. L.
" THE SWORD IN MYRTLES DREST " (4th S. xii.
109, 154, 336.)— The original of the expression
comes from a skolion, or drinking-song, of Kallis-
tratus. The singer, at its recitation, held in his
hand a myrtle-branch, which he handed to any one
he chose when he had finished his verse. That
guest was then bound to take up the theme, and
produce, in his turn, a verse. Hence the skolion
was essentially an irregular poem. I venture to
quote the first two stanzas from Anthologia Lyrica
(ed. Mehlhorn, Lipsise, 1827), on account of their
beauty, and because the allusion in the first has
become a commonplace of succeeding poeta and
patriots to inspire republican sentiments : —
'Ev pvprov
ore rv rvpavvov
i(rov6fJLOV5 T* '
<$>l\.TO.T 'ApfJioSl 0V Tl 7TOV Tf
8' ev /ia/cayocjv o~e <£curiv
i'va -jrep TroSwKTjs '
v re
PELAGIUS.
"REPECK" (4th S. xii. 208, 294, 337.)— A very
common Celtic word was ruth, which literally
=mud, but which was also applied to the slimy
shores of rivers, the adjacent alluvial flats, and
marsh-land generally. It appears to have been
common to all dialects, and consequently assumed
a great variety of shapes, one of them being rith,
or ryth, which, with d the Saxon substitute for th,
would become ryd. Dropping, more Gallico, the
final consonant, we get ry, a form which occurs in
the names Rye (Romney Marsh), Ryedale, Raydon,
Roydon, and Croydon. Let me just observe that
rith also took the form of riv, by the substitution
of v for th, a change which is met with also in the
Greek, as, 3>r)pt <£Aao>, <£At/3w for 6*7/3, S-Aaw,
S-Ai/3w (Liddell and Scott's Lex. s. ^p). Riv
occurs in Durobrivis (Rochester), and, as I would
contend, in the French rive, and was the probable
source of the Latin ripa. We have thus got ry
(=mud or ooze). The meaning of peck seems
scarcely open to doubt. I take it to be a form of
pic, and consequently to signify a pointed stake.
Pic, let me add, to.ok the forms of peak, pake, pike,
and pigh (pyg). The form pigh, modified by the
old Celtic inflexion eth, would become pigheth
(=a staking, i. e., staked enclosure), a form which
18
NOTES AND QUERIES.
15* S. I. JAN. 3, 74.
occurs in pighyts, quoted by Halliwell, s. "pightle"
Hence, to pitch, or as Hall, the chronicler, and
Shakspeare have it, pight the tents, properly means
to stake them. The word " pightle," let me just
observe, is evidently a diminutive of pight, a view
confirmed by its normal meaning, which is that of
a small enclosure. " Eepeck," or "rypeck," would
t}m$= mud-stake. W. B.
THE VIOLET, THE NAPOLEONIC FLOWER (4th S.
xi. 134 ; xii. 452.) — In a print, without date, pub-
lished by Fores, Piccadilly, London, there is a
drawing of a bunch of violets, and below the
following : —
" Corporal Violet.
"When Bonaparte left Fontainbleau, he told his
friends he should return with the Violet Season, which
furnished the idea for this print, and became a standing
Toast. Amongst his friends, the portraits of Bonaparte,
Maria Louisa, and the young king of Borne, will be
discovered amongst the flowers."
EDWARD HAILSTONE.
Walton Hall.
In Madame Cochelet's Memoirs (I think) is to
be found a description of Napoleon arriving at
the Tuileries in 1815, and of the grand staircase
being filled with ladies who smothered him in
violets. H. K. G.
SIR THOMAS (EDWARD ?) PULLISON, OR PULES-
DON (4th S. xii. 368, 416.)— In Edmondson's He-
raldry it is stated that the present arms of Puleston,
viz., Sa: three mullets arg., were granted in 1582,
and that in 1583 a grant was made to one of the
name of the following coat, viz., Arg: on a fess
between three pelicans sa : as many hawks lures or.
Perhaps these were granted to the Lord Mayor of
London to whom H. W. refers. Can he give me
any information about him, as I have not yet been
able to identify him? W. T.
"No MORE USE THAN A SIDE POCKET TO A
TOAD" (4th S. xii. 385, 435.)— Since my boyhood,
I have been acquainted with a variation of this
saying : " He was as proud as a toad with a side
pocket." CUTHBERT BEDE.
This is a common saying in Dorsetshire and
Cornwall. W. M. M.
"DALK" (4th S. xii. 367, 434.)— From the sense
of "pin,^ this word acquired those of brooch or
cl'asp, as in Runic inscriptions in Stephens's 0. N.
Eunic Monuments (see p. 918) and " dagger." I
find in a Ripon wiU of 1488, "j dalk deaurat,"
" a Dalk cum ymagine Beate Marie."
There is a Lincolnshire phrase, " Dallacked out
= gaudily dressed up." Can this have originally
meant, adorned with " dalks," or is it a corruption
of "decked"? j. T. F.
PLACE OF BURIAL OF EDMUND, DUKE OF
SOMERSET (4th S. xii. 29, 276.)— He was buried
5 before the image of S. Jame at an autar in ye sd
monastery churche on ye northe parte." (Chronicle
of Tewkesbury, by Mastar Somarset, Harl. MS.
545.) HERMENTRUDE.
NOTES ON BOOKS, ETC.
Dnimmond of Hawthornden : the Story of his Life aiid
Writings. By David Masson, M.A., LL.D. (Mac-
millan & Co.)
SOT often does the combination of gentleman, scholar,
philosopher, and poet, occur so fully in one person as it
Iocs in William Drummond of classic and romantic
Hawthornden. His life, 1585—1649, began when Scot-
and had its own king, and ended, it is said, through, or
partly through, grief at the death of that king's son, the
lethroned monarch of Great Britain. Like many men
sred to the law, Drummond devoted himself to literature
rn the highest paths of history, poetry, and philosophy.
He was the first Scotsman, or, at least, the first Scottish
poet who wrote pure English, — so pure, that some
English poets are said to have been jealous of him. His
sonnets are pronounced by Hazlitt to be as near per-
fection as mortal sonnetteer could make them. Hallam,
rating them less highly, says they deserve to rank among
similar Italian productions of the sixteenth century.
Drummond's prose work, The Cypress Grove, for solemn
argument against fear of death, for impressiveness of
thought and eloquence of expression, has been compared
with Sir Thomas Brown. Loyal to his lady as he was to
bis king, Drummond felt a shadow cast on the pathway
of his life when he lost the fair mistress whom he was
about to marry. His whole story, with notices of his works,
and an account of the sojourn made at Hawthornden by
Ben Jonson, who walked the greater part of the way to*
Scotland and back, is capitally told by Dr. Masson. The
narrative of Drummond's love for the beautiful Miss
Cunningham, of Barnes, is among the most attractive
details of this very attractive volume ; and Dr. Masspn
truly says of it, that " for a little history of love and its-
painful deliciousness, there is nothing sweeter than the
poems of the First Part." The romance of the story is not
at all impaired by the fact that, at the age of forty-six,
Drummoud married Elizabeth Logan ; and we willingly
believe that he did so, " fancying she had a great re-
semblance of his first mistress, whose ideal had been
deeply impressed and stuck long in his mind." Around,
his hero, Dr. Masson groups national and individual
episodes and sketches of character, which are of the
greatest interest, and which add to the value of a bio-
graphical work which we warmly recommend to the
lovers of thoroughly " healthy " books.
The Sempill Ballates. A Series of Historical, Political,
and Satirical Scotish Poems. Ascribed to llobcrt
Sempill, 1567 — 1583. To which are added, Poems by
Sir James Semple of Baltrees, 1598 — 1610. Now for
the first time Printed. (Edinburgh. Stevenson.)
MR. STEVENSON, of the " Olde Booke Schoppe," South
Frederick Street, Edinburgh, is the editor, as well as
the publisher, of the Sempill Ballates. They form a
valuable addition to old Scottish ballad literature, and
Mr. Stevenson has written a very useful Introduction to
them. The political ballads are of great interest ; and
the social ballads are quite equal to them. They are
not for too nice readers ; nice or not, they will come to-
the conclusion that, in the eleventh century, princes had
as many lies flung at them as in the nineteenth ; and
they will feel that, whatever may be the case now,
politicians were not particularly honest of old, nor the
5* 8. 1. JAN. 3, 74.]
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women, if they were all like the three graceless ones who
are named and described in this collection.
Billiotheca Cornubiensis. A Catalogue of the Writings,
both Manuscript and Printed, of Cornishmen, and of
Works relating to the County of Cornwall, with Bio-
graphical Memoranda and Copious Literary References.
By G. Clement Boase and W. Prideaux Courtney.
Vol. I. A— 0. (Longmans & Co.)
WE sincerely congratulate the learned editors of this work
on the completion of the first Tolume. They have
shown unweariedness of spirit in the execution of almost
Herculean labour. It is impossible to praise them or
their work too highly. Their power of condensation (a
rare power), and their references to where fuller details
may be found, render this volume one of the most perfect
of its sort that ever came under our notice.
NEW SHAKSPERE SOCIETY. — As you have so kindly
noticed this new endeavour to promote the study of our
great poet, will you let me say that, as two passages in
my Prospectus of the Society had an ungenerous look-
quite unintentional on my part — towards former ex-
cellent workers at Shakspere, I at once altered the
words " the criticism so wooden " into " the criticism,
however good, so devoted to the mere text and its illus-
tration, and to studies of single plays " ; and after the
words " we can then lay hands on Shakspere's text," in-
serted these, " though here, probably, there will not be
much to do, thanks to the labours of the many distinguisht
scholars who have so long and so faithfully workt at it."
In dwelling on the main point omitted by these scholars,
I regret that at first I did not express my admiration of,
and thanks for, the good work at other points which they
have done. F. J. FUKNIVALL.
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written to us to testify their entire disagreement with
the sentiments expressed in the letter from CHR. COOKE,
in' our last number, to accept, one and all, our warmest
thanks.
MR. ROYLE ENTWISLE asks us to place here the follow-
ing queries : — first, The Praise of Margate by Peter
Pindar (Dr. Wolcot). In what edition of the works of
this satirist is it to be found ; and who was the author of
the answer to it 1 — and secondly, William Parsons, the
player. Can you oblige me with the name of the author
of An Apotheosis of William Parsons, the player, to
whose memory there is the following epitaph in the
churchyard of Lee, Kent ? —
"William Parsons, Esq.,
Died Feb., 1795, aged 59.
" Here Parsons lies — oft' on life's busy stage,
With Nature, reader, hast thou seen him vie ;
He science knew — knew manners — knew the age —
Respected knew to live— lamented die."
The " consecration " consists of sixteen verses, having for
"The Argument," Parsons, Parnassus, Thalia, Mel-
pomene, and another epitaph.
" If Dan Prior tells truth, the gods have their freaks,
And visit this earth every five or six weeks."
From the introductory lines to the Apotheosis.
0. K. — Such questions cannot be discussed in
" N. & Q." Record may, however, be made of a fact,
to show that the innovation alluded to is not without
precedent.^ When Origen visited the Holy Land, A.D.
215, Alexander, Bishop of Jerusalem, and Theocristus,
Bishop of Caesarea, welcomed him, and, says Canon
Robertson (Hist. Christ. Church, i. 143), " although then
a layman, he was desired by them to preach in their
churches. On hearing of this, Demetrius of Alexandria
remonstrated, but Theocristus and Alexander justified
themselves by precedents which showed that laymen
had been permitted to preach in the presence of bishops,
and with their sanction."
GREEN ROOM.— A theatre built beneath a massive
building, like the one under the Criterion, is not a new
thing in architecture. The Theatre de 1'Athenie at
Paris is, so to speak, in a cellar. The Courrier de
V Europe (Dec. 27) states that a modest salle de spectacle
in one of the faubourgs of Lille (where the price of
admission was one sou) the audience and building had a
narrow escape from destruction by the explosion of a
petroleum lamp.
* *.
" Enjoy the honey heavy dew of slumber ;
Thou hast no figures nor no fantasies,
Which busy care draws in the brains of men ;
Therefore thou sleep'st so sound."
Shakspeare, Jul. Qpesar, A. ii. sc. 1.
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G. H. — "I knew a very wise man that believed that if
a man were permitted to make all the ballads, he need
not care who should make the laws of a nation." —
Andrew Fletcher of Saltoun, Letter to the Marquis of
Montrose, &c.
J. M. A. " Kennaquhair." — We much regret having
overlooked, if we ever received, the articles you were
kind enough to forward to " N. & Q." The courtesy of
your reminder is beyond all praise.
H. G.— By the Act "29" Charles II., 1678, all
persons were " obliged to be buried in woollens, and the
persons directing the burial otherwise, to forfeit 51."
DELTA. — The Eev. F. Mant writes to say that he him-
self was misinformed as to the hymn in question having
appeared in Lord Selborne's collection.
J. F. M. — See a note by HERMENTRTJDE, in our last
number, p. 523, on Mary, daughter of William de Ros.
W. W. — The recent addition of twelve members to the
Conclave, now makes the number of Cardinals forty-two.
X. Y. Z. — Consult Brand's Antiquities, and the works
referred to in the notes.
W. W. — We should like to see the document, which
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LONDON, SATURDAY, JANUARY 10, 1874.
CONTENTS. — N° 2.
NOTES :— Laud's Service Bulk — Jottings in By- Ways.— II.
Euphues' Shadow, Lodge's or Greene's ? 21 — On the Elective
and Deposing Power of Parliament : No. III. Henry IV. to
Henry VII., 23 — Shakspeariana, 24 — Dorsers and Preserves —
Scottish Family of Edgar — Ordeal : a Freak of Pronunciation
— "You know who the Critics are," 25— Epitaph on Cardinal
Howard at Rome—" The Way Out" — Unpublished Letter of
Macaulay— The Real Richelieu and Bulwer's Richelieu, 26.
QUERIES :— Elizabeth, Queen of Robert Bruce— Adallinde,
the Mother of Thierri — "Twentiteem" — Register Books
Stamped — Phipps Family — Cymbling for Larks — Carmoly
(C.) "Histoire des Medecins Juifs, Anciens etModernes," 27 —
" The Fair Concubine ; or, the Secret History of the Beautiful
Vanella," &c. — Farwell Family and the Representatives of
General Monk, Duke of Albemarle — Edmund Perceval, of
"Weston in Gordano, Somerset — Burning the Dead —
" Jacaranda" — Pin Basket, 23 — " Vigilantia et Fidelitate" —
John of Guildford — Blind Harry's Wallace — William
Laurence, Rector of Strekhatn, 1615 — 1621 — Earle's
''Philology of the English Tongue" — Drummond of
Colynhalzie — J. S. Mill on "Liberty" — Clockmakers— The
First Commercial Treaty of England, 29.
HEPLIES :— Unpublished Poems by Burns, 29— Dr. Johnson
and Mrs. Tnrton, ntte Hickman, 30— St. Cuthbert, 31— "The
Irish Brigade," 32 — Flint Guns — "Shepherdess " as a Name—
"Talented" — Lady Jane Covert, of Pepper Harrow — Pillar
Posts. 33 — Chaucer's Fellow Squires— Old Election Squib —
Stoball— Percy, Earl of Northumberland, temp. Elizabeth-
Crew Yard— Thurot, 34—" The Bee Papers "—National and
Private Flags — "The Practical Christian" — Hanging in
Chains — Carr=Carse, 35 — Bondmen in England — Serfdom in
Scotland, 36 — Royal Arms in Churches — Heel-Taps — Tenny-
son's Natural History — " Bloody " — Bishop Mountain —
"From Greenland's icy mountains" — "Spurring," 37 —
"Calling out loudly for the earth" — The Magpie — Yardley
Oak— Fly-Leaf Inscriptions, 38 — Affebridge — The Marquis of
Montrose's Poems — Arms of Hungary — Caser Wine, 39.
Notes on Books, &c.
LAUD'S SERVICE BUIK.
The following extracts from the Kirk Session
Records of Dundonald, Ayrshire, afford an authentic
example of the measures taken, in nearly every
parish in Scotland south of the Grampians, to meet
the violent imposition on the Church of an unau-
thorized Liturgy. Till of late years — and by some
still — it has been represented that the opposition
of the clergy and people to Laud's book in 1637
was directed against read prayers ; but at Dun-
donald church, as well as generally over Scotland,
the Book of Common Order had been always in
common use. It will be observed here also that
objection is made only against " maters conteaned
in the said buik": —
1637. Septr. 17th. " The whilk day the sessioun of
Dundonald, Wnderstanding that the mater anent the
service buik, appointed to be vssit in all the kirks w'in
this kingdome, is to be agitated befoir the lords of his
Matics richt honorabill counsell at Edinburgh wpon the
twentie of this instant, And haveing sundrie scruples
anent the maters conteaned in the said buik, have advysed
and concluded humblie to supplicat wnto the said Lords,
that they wold deall w' the Kings Matie, to the effect he
wold be graciouslie pleassit not to vrge the practeis of
the said service buik wpon the kirks of this kingdome
& ours ; And to the effect foirsaid have nominated, and
by thir pnts. nominats, constituts & authorizes, James
ffullartoune of Crocebie our commissioner, to present our
said supplicaune. in our names ; giveand & grantand to
our said commissioner our full power to that purpois, as
also, if ony thing sail be fund jllegall, jnformemall or
jncommodiouslie, conceaved in this our supplicaune., to
change and alter the same be the advyse of skilfull lawers
in edinburgh at his comming eist. Be thir pnts. written
be Mr. John fflemyng, clerk to the sessioun of Dun
donald and subt. as follows." [No subscription.]
Octr. llth. "The qlk day the gentilmen and oyer?,
elders and deacons of the Sessioun of Dundonald who had
supplicated to the richt honorable the Lords of his Matei*
privie counsell at yair last melting jn Edinburgh the 20 of
September last bypast humblie requeisting, yat by yair
Lordschips intercessioune at the hands of our dread
soveragne the Kings Matio they micht be fije from the
practice of yat new buik of commoune prayer and all vyer
jnnovaunes. in ye matter of religioun : Wnderstanding
that the 17 day of this jnstant is appointit for yat nixt
melting of yat honorable court, have nominat & be thir
pnts. nominats constituts & authorizes Ja" ffullartoune
of crocebie our commissioner to attend the foirsaid meit-
ting of counsell, to receave ane answer of our said former
supplicaune. pnted. be the ,said James in our~ names,
giveand & grantand to him our full power to yat effect
& to doe q' f urder sail be found expedient for fortherance
of yat matter in all peaceable & legall forme allanerlie :
Qlk we bind & obleis ws to ratine & approve as or own
deid : Be thir pnts. written," &c.
Novr. 5th. " The qlk day the sessioun authorizd Mr
William McKerrell of hilhouse to attend in yair names at
edinburgh, or ony place qr. the councell souldsitt for the
tyme, on the 15 of November instant, by this yair com-
missioun following : —
" ' Fforsomeikill as, besides the severall petitions givin
in by divers parodies of this kingdome, thair was a
generall supplication condiscendit wpon & presentit to
the richt honorabill The Lords of his Matcis privie Coun-
sell, at thair last inciting at Edinburgh wpon the 17 day
of October last bypast, humblie requeisting, that the
autors of thes two bulks of commoun prayer & cannons
sould be conveined & censured by thair lor'1", for making
such novatioune in the mater of religioun as the saids
buiks beirs, & for oyer eveill faults touching the subjects,
as in the said supplicaune. at mair lenth is conteaned ;
And we ar hope full that by ordour & directioun from our
gracious soveraigne the Kings Matie, and out of yair
pious zeall to religioun, they will tak to heart this
vniversall complaint of his Matoi* gud subjects of all
ranks, and will doe thairin according as conscience &
justice requyres : Therfor we of the paroch of Dun-
donald have authorized, & be thir pnts. authorizes, Mr
Wm McKerrell of hilhouse, our commissioner, to attend
his Matei* will & yair Lor'Js yairanent, the 15 of November
jnstant at Edinburgh, or qr it sail happin them to sitt
for the tyme ; obleissing ourselfs to ratine qt he sail doe
in this our commissioun in our names, as our own deid,
he keipand himself always w'in bounds of loyaltie, & in
all peaceable course & cariage & no otherways : Be thir
pnts. written & subt.," &c.
W. F. (2).
JOTTINGS IN BY-WAYS,
n. EUPHUES' SHADOW, LODGE'S OR GREENE'S 1
Euphues1 Shadow, London, 1592, bears on its
title-page, " By T. L., gent.," and Greene, in his
address to the reader, and in the dedication, says
it is " by his absent friend, M. Thomas Lodge,"
now " upon a long voyage," having " gone to sea
with Mayster Candish," who sailed from England
22
NOTES AND QUERIES.
15th S. I. JAN. 10, 74.
on 26th August, 1591. Mr. Collier, in his Biblio-
graphical Account, evidently persuaded in the first
instance by the style that the booklet was by
Greene himself, has then sought for arguments to
confirm his belief, and the result curiously shows
how under the influence of a prejudgment, state-
ments may be unconsciously warped, and mere
assertions held as good arguments. His view is
that Greene, finding his own name palled on the
public, set forth Euphues' Shadow as by Lodge, and
told his readers it was so, and also gulled and lied
to his patron dedicatee, Viscount Fitzwaters. In
proof he says that Greene tells us he had already
" put forth so many of his own labours " that they
might be weary of his name. Now, though only
some of these words are between inverted commas,
the sense conveyed is that the whole represents
Greene's meaning, yet Greene simply says: —
" Gentlemen, after many of mine own labours that
you have courteouslie accepted, I present you with
Euphues' Shadowe in the behalfe of my[absent friend, M.
Thomas Lodge, who at his departure to sea upon a long
voyage was willing, as a generall farewell to all courteous
gentlemen, to leave this his worke to the view," &c.
The " so " of Mr. Collier's " so many " is an in-
advertent interpolation, and there is no hint at
public weariness, but, on the contrary, an acknow-
ledgment that his own many labours had been
" courteouslie accepted."
Again, Greene says to Viscount Fitzwaters : —
" .... it fortuned that one M. Thomas Lodge, who
nowe is gone to sea with Mayster Candish, had bestowed
some serious labour in printing of a book called Euphues'
Shadoioe ; and by his last letters gaue straight charge
that I should not onely haue the care for his sake of the
impression thereof, but also in his absence to bestowe it
vpon some man of honor whose worthy virtues might be
a patronage to his work," &c.
Here first, according to Mr. Collier, Greene says
he was enjoined to print the book,— but the
words " haue the care for his sake of the impres-
sion" are interpreted by the previous words,
" Thomas Lodge, who .... had bestowed some
serious labour in printing," and distinctly shown
to mean that he, Greene, was to have. a care of an
impression that Lodge had already arranged should
come forth, and which he had already, in all prob-
ability, sold to the publisher. This price probably
went towards his outfit ; and he did his best to
procure a good sale for it by a Euphues title, and
by a note of approval from Greene, the best known
and one of the best esteemed Euphuist writers of
the day, while Greene was rewarded by the plea-
santnesses of duty done to an absent friend, and
the forty shillings to be earned by the dedication.
But, secondly, Mr. Collier says, " .... it is more
than doubtful whether Lodge did write or could
have written to Greene in the interval since his
sailing with Cavendish." Any may say they
doubt a stated fact, but why, writing nearly three
hundred years aft ~\ and without shadow of fact
assigned, it should be said that " it is more than
doubtful" that Lodge wrote to Greene, I am unable
to understand. But more, Mr. Collier says "since
his sailing with Cavendish"; but this is entirely an
idea of his own, Greene has no single word that
countenances it. Lodge's letters were probably
from the port of last departure in England, where
the desire of Cavendish to have all present would
cause him to name an early day, and where even
in these more busy times vessels are still detained
weeks after their appointed sailing days. Stores,
armaments, crews, the adventurers, might all or
any be causes of delay, and all conversant with
the Channel have seen fleets of hundreds of weather-
bound ships taking advantage of the long-wished-
for fair wind, and putting forth from their original
ports or from those in which they have taken
shelter.
Finally, Mr. Collier says the whole reads like a
pretext. The reader has had such of the dedica-
tion as bears on the question, and part of the
address to] the readers, ending at " view." I now
give the rest : —
" Which if you grace with your fauours, eyther as his-
affected [Bloving] meaning, or the worthe of the worke
requires, not onely I for him shall rest yours, but what
labours his sea studies affords shall be, I dare promise,
offered to your sight, to gratifie your courtesies, and his
pen as himselfe, euery way, yours for euer. Farewell,
yours to command, ROB. GREENE."
Any statement is a pretext or lie with circum-
stance to him who will believe it to be such, but I
venture to think that any indifferent reader will
say that if it be a pretext, Greene has cunningly
concealed it under as straightforward a statement
as could be penned.
Turning to the evidence from style, " it is in all
respects," according to Mr. Collier, "identical
with the style of Greene ; and if Lodge wrote it,
it was an intentional and successful imitation : all
Greene's peculiarities for which in or before 1592
he had obtained celebrity, are here to be abun-
dantly noted "...." our belief is that it was by
Greene. Euphues then held sway, and Greene,
whose English .was otherwise graceful and facile,
flowing on with a certain pleasant sweetness, so
adapted himself to and adopted Lyly's manner and
affectations as to become the most popular novelet
writer of the day. Two of his books have titles
derived from Euphues, and a third borrows from
Sidney that of Arcadia, while he imitates both.
It would have been strange, indeed, if Lodge, a
younger adventurer in print, had not modelled his
style on those of Greene and Lyly, the latter of
whom by his very title he professedly followed.
As Greene had made use of names from Euphues
to make a catching title, so Lodge had already
named a book Euphues' Golden Legacy; and its
style is similar to that of Euphues' Shadow, though
perhaps the forcing had not had time to produce
so artificial a result. There is, therefore, a general
5th S. I. JAN. 10, '74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
resemblance between Greene's style and that of
Euphues1 Shadoiv, and both are imitated and forced,
but it is only a class resemblance. As negative
evidence, Euphues' Shadow wants that smoothness
and, so to speak, rhythm which were among the
graces of Greene's easy prose; and as positive evi-
dence, and besides other marks, I would be content
to let the question of authorship, so far as it can be
decided by style, rest on a comparison of the open-
ing sentences of the Golden Legacy and the Shadow.
The verse is as strong proof and stronger, and in
•especial may it be denied that Greene ever wrote
the little song: —
" Happie Phoebus, in thy flower."
The three pieces given go also to confirm the
truth of Greene's statements. They occur at inter-
nals within the first eight leaves, while the remain-
ing forty are prose only. Now in the Golden
Legacy, and Greene's Menaphon, and similar books,
including such prototypes as the Diana of Monte-
mayor and Sidney's Arcadia, the prose is inter-
spersed throughout with verse. Hence it is a
reasonable belief that Lodge had not had time to
-complete his design and wrote those occasional
pieces which would eventually have been inserted.
In like manner, in the Arcadia the verse is more
infrequent in the third book, and except the usual
•eclogue at the end of the fourth, this and the fifth
have only one short piece each, and this because,
as may be gathered from the Preface to the 1590
edition, Sidney wrote his verses at odd intervals,
and fitted them in either in their intended place,
or wherever seemed most suitable. Beyond these
things, there are no known grounds for disbelieving
the title-page of Euphues? Shadow and Greene's
plain statement twice repeated; and Mr. Dyce's
remark, written before the reasons given in the
Bibliographical Account were published, seems to
one still applicable : — " Why Mr. Collier (Hist.
of Engl. Dram. Poet., Hi., 149, note) should sus-
pect that it might have been written ' by Greene
liimself ' I am at a loss to understand." (Greene';
Works.) BRINSLEY NICHOLSON.
OX THE ELECTIVE AND DEPOSING POWER OF
PARLIAMENT.
No. III.— HENRY IV. TO HENRY VII.
(Concluded from p. 4J
So utterly untenable was the title of the House
of Lancaster that in the course of the reign o
Henry VI. it was formally challenged by the Duke
of York before the Peers, who, as Lingard says
were in those ages necessarily called upon to deter-
mine questions of disputed succession. They acted
however, in such cases, as the great feudal council o:
the crown, and not at all as a Parliament, for the
Commons were allowed no share in the decision o:
the question. It is a great error, therefore, to suppose
that their decision was that of a Parliament, and a
till greater error to confound it with an election. It
was the opposite of an election, for they decided
which of two claimants of the crown by hereditary
ight had a right to it. Both claimants in this
:ase set up hereditary rights, and the Peers deter-
mined in favour of the Duke of York ; only as
.here had been two descents of the crown in the
same family, they recommended as a compromise
,hat Henry should retain the crown for his life.
The terms of the compromise were rejected by the
ting's partisans, and then Edward of York, on the
death of his father, became entitled to assert his
icreditary right, which had been affirmed by the
Peers. He did assert it successfully, and Parlia-
ment recognized his right to the throne as descended
Tom the Earl of March. Parliament recorded its
recognition of the title of the House of York in
;olemn acts, branding the sovereigns of the House
of Lancaster as usurpers. These are the authentic
Acts of Parliament, and show that the silly story
of an election by a London mob, which Mr. Fre"e-
man borrows from a chronicler, is absurd ; and
though on the accession of Henry VII. these Acts
were repealed as regarded Henry VI., they were
not repealed as regarded Henry IV., who was thus
admitted by a sovereign of his own party to have
been a usurper.
Henry, no doubt, was displaced by force of arms,
but it was in pursuance of a g-ucm-judicial sen-
tence of the Peers, freely given while Henry was
still in power, declaring his rival to be the true
heir to the crown. On the other hand, this was
no election or deposition ; but, on the contrary, it
was the reverse of an election, for it was declaratory
of an existing right ; and it was the reverse of a
deposition, for it declared the reigning sovereign
not to be the rightful sovereign. It was simply a
solemn recognition of hereditary right in the House
of York.
The grounds on which their right was preferred
by the nation and by lawyers have never yet been
made clear, for the simple reason that they are of
a legal nature ; and yet they are of such importance
to the present question that it is necessary to ex-
plain them. Briefly stated they come to this, that
the House of York claimed as the nearer heirs, but
as heirs-general, claiming through a female; whereas
the House of Lancaster claimed as heirs one degree
more remote, but then as claiming as heirs male,
that is, by a descent derived entirely by the pater-
nal line. York claimed through a daughter of an
elder son ; Lancaster through the male descendants
of a younger son. Now a Salic law had never
been established in England, as in France ; and if
the son of a daughter could succeed, then the
daughter could have succeeded had the crown been
vacant in her lifetime. And in the spirit of the
feudal system, which regarded sovereignty as a sort
of estate, it might as well descend to a woman as
a man. But sovereignty in those days was so per-
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5th S. I. JAN. 10, 74.
sonal, that there had always been a disposition to
dissatisfaction on the descent of the throne to a
female or a minor, until the great principle of con-
stitutional law was established, that a sovereign
should govern by ministers who had the confidence
of Parliament. When that was regarded there
was no danger in the descent of the throne to a
woman or a minor, and there was certainly none
in the case of a woman which would not equally
arise in the case of a male who happened to be a
minor. When this was understood there was no
difficulty in hereditary descent in either case, and
so it was ultimately settled. But though it was
quite understood in those times, as the impeach-
ment of Suffolk showed, the times were too tur-
bulent for quiet descent of the throne according
to hereditary right, and a false claim might
temporarily triumph by force of arms. Thus it
was with Henry IV., who set up a specious but
false claim, founded on the notion that a male line
of descent, though less near in blood, was to be
preferred to a female line. His house, in fact, set
up that the crown was entailed on heirs male ; and,
accordingly, it is a curious fact that in the reign of
Henry VI. the judges laid it down that an heir
male could not derive title through a daughter.
This was just the case of the Duke of York and
his sons, who claimed through a daughter of an
elder son; while Lancaster claimed as direct de-
scendants in a male line from a younger son, that
is, as heirs male. But it is evident that they
assumed either a Salic law or an entail of the
crown on heirs male, and there was no pretence for
either one or the other.
Accordingly Henry IV., conscious of defect of
hereditary right, sought to eke it out, as all usurpers
have done, by the pretence of election ; a mere
pretence, for he really got the crown, and kept it,
by force of arms. The House of York, therefore,
represented the principle of strict hereditary right;
the House of Lancaster represented the principle
of usurpation by force, under the specious pretext
of election ; and the nation, after nearly a century
of civil war, decided emphatically in favour of the
former ; that is, in favour of the principle of strict
hereditary right. Hence the Peers decided in
favour of Edward IV. when he appealed to them,
even against a reigning sovereign, after two descents
of the crown, and after a lapse of half a century ;
the most remarkable triumph of hereditary right,
as Sir James Mackintosh observes, implying the
idea that it was " indefeasible, though not neces-
sarily implying any notion of Divine right." It
was enough for the Peers that the crown was here-
ditary by English law. That was all they meant
when they decided in favour of the House of York,
and they knew that their own titles rested on the
same basis, and no other.
On the death of Edward IV. the crown descended,
of course, to his infant sons, if they were legiti-
mate ; to his daughter Elizabeth, if they were not.
Kichard set up their illegitimacy ; but as that was
doubted, and he had no title even if they were
not legitimate, he set up, as Henry had done, the
pretence of an election, intending, if he could, to
cure the defect of his title by marriage with Eliza-
beth. This, however, was of course a marriage too-
repugnant to be endured except from the pressure
of a great political necessity, and many even of the
partisans of York preferred her marriage with
Henry of [Richmond, who represented the House
of Lancaster, as by their union the long-standing
contest would be terminated. And so it was.
In the next I will deal with the case of Henry
VII. and the succession of the House of Tudor,
and the accession of the House of Stuart, as de-
scended from Elizabeth of York, and deriving
hereditary right from her. W. F. F.
SHAKSPEARIANA.
MARY-BUDS (4th S. xii. 243, 283, 363.)— In my
reply I suggested that in Perdita's words Shakspeare
was thinking of the yellow-haired weeping Mary
to whom the flower was dedicated. Among the
marigolds that have since cropped up in my read-
ing this first of four stanzas of a pretty little
" Barginet " in Lodge's Euphues' Shadow goes to
show that the flower was at that time similarly
suggestive to others: —
" Happie Phoebus, in thy flower
On thy teares so sweetly feeding :
When she spyeth thy heart bleeding
Sorrow dooth hir heart deuoure.
Oh that I might Phoebus bee,
So my Clitia loved me."
The quotations by C. A. W. show the same, that
the flower symbolized the grief of Mary Magdalerj
at the setting of the Sun of Eighteousness, and her
weeping on the morn of the resurrection, and
this is the explanation of Withering's puzzle. In
all probability the French name souci is of the
same origin, unless, as some doubtfully say, sold
be a sun-name. If I understand C. A. W.'s expla-
nation, it is curiously erroneous in more ways than
one, for maudlin is not etymologically=weeping
eye, but obtained the sense of sorrowfully blubbered
from the pictorial representations of St. Maudlin.
So we have a maudlin fair, which, like Donnybrook,
xpresses a great uproar, and from another saint's
fair, tawdry.
Nor do I understand why he says no one can
settle which of the marigolds Shakspeare meant.
The question was not which of the marigolds, but
was it a daisy. If C. A. W. suppose that the daisy
is of the same genus, and may therefore botani-
:ally be called a marigold, the supposition is wholly
wrong, and almost as incorrect as calling Syngenesia
a genus. Even, however, if the daisy were of the
us marigold, neither English writers nor Eng-
ish peasants mean daisy when they say marigold,
5th S. I. JAN. 10, 74.]
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25
nor marigold when they say daisy. So distinct
were they held in Elizabethan times that the daisy
was the emblem of dissembling. The horse and
ass are far nearer allied in nature, yet when an
Englishman talks of horse-racing, no one supposes
he means or includes donkey-racing.
B. NICHOLSON.
HAIILET. — Have any of the commentators re-
marked on the circumstance of Claudius reigning
in Denmark to the exclusion of the heir apparent.'
Certainly no mention is made of it in the play. It
seems a little strange that no one should call atten-
tion to such a mistake as putting a wrong man on
the throne. SOLOMON EEX.
" The Night-Crow cr.y'de, aboding lucklesse time."
Third Part of King Henry VI. , act v., s. 6.
What bird does this mean ? Does it allude to
a cock crowing in the night ?
GEORGE E. JESSE.
Henbury, Macclesfield, Cheshire.
SHAKSPERE. — On the spelling of the name before
our great poet's time, your readers may like to
know that in the Controlment Eoll of 2 Hie. II.
(June 1377 — June 1379) there is an entry concern-
ing " Waltmis Shakespere, nuper existens in Gaola
Castri domini Regis Colcestrie."
F. J. FURNIVALL.
. DORSERS AND PRESERVES. — In the thirty-fifth
or thirty-sixth year of his reign (A.D. 1361 or 1362),
Edward III. had, in John de Newbury's charge,
these dorsers, severally ornamented as follows : —
"j. dorsorium de fama mundi; j. de Golias & Dauid;
j. de Regibw* exuktw; j. de Armis leonelli; j. de
Regibws ,• j. de Comitibws ; j. de passu saladini ;
j. de insultu domnarum ; j. de Marcolf ; j. cum cresto &
penna pauoim, de Worsted ; xliij. targetta depicta cum
auro cum Garteriis de Armis Re^is."
Among the " Confectiones " appear the names
" Citronade, Zingiber madrean, Zingiber conserue,
Zingiber belendyne, Chardecoynes (at 2s. and 2s. 6d.
a lb.), Canelle, Gafiofole, Coliandre, Sank dragone,
GalengaZ, Flos de Rys (rice-flower)," &c., 39/4.
T. G. 41.762, Magna Garderoba, Comp. de receptis
et expensis pro robis, &c., Eecord Office.
F. J. FURNIVALL.
SCOTTISH FAMILY OF EDGAR. — Whatever may
be the general merits of Capt. Lawrence- Archer's
work on this subject, noticed in " N. & Q." of the
29th Nov. 1873, it is obvious, on an attentive
perusal of the book, that the author has fallen into
some very important errors in matters of detail.
This is especially the case in his account of the
Edgars of Newtoun, and in the genealogy he has
proposed of that family. Most of the errors may
be corrected by the materials he has himself col-
' lected, and which are printed in the book. The
most serious mistake into which the author has
fallen, is in the attempt to question the fact of the
last Eichard Edgar of Newton being the brother
of Andrew Edgar of Eyemouth, the grandfather of
the Eev. John Edgar of Hutton. This is, in effect,
what 'the author has done in the account of the
family of Newtoun, in the genealogy of the family,
and in a note at page 132 to an extract from the
Fasti Ecd. Scotiante of the Eev. Dr. H. Scott.
A reference to the case mentioned in the extract
(Molle v, Eiddell, reported in 16 Faculty Decisions,
p. 429, and 6 Paton's Appeal Cases, p. 169), will
show that the Eev. J. Edgar claimed as " grand-
nephew and heir of line" of Eichard Edgar, that
there was no question as to thev descent, and that
the decision both of the Court of Session and the
House of Lords turned on an entirely different
matter, viz., the effect of the deed of Mrs. Hunter
on the disposition and settlement of Eichard Edgar.
The disposition itself was registered in the Sheriff
Court of Berwickshire on the 21st March, 1767,
and it will be found on a reference to this docu-
ment, that Eichard Edgar left a legacy to his
nephew Andrew (the father of the Eev. J. Edgar),
and that he described this Andrew as the son of
his own brother, Andrew Edgar of Eyemouth.
Those who have looked into Capt. Lawrence-
Archer's book will see at once the bearing this
matter may have on the representation in the male
line of the family of Wedderlie, and the importance
therefore of stating it accurately. X.
ORDEAL ; A FREAK OF PRONUNCIATION. — A
singular freak of pronunciation is exhibited in the
word ordeal, which is commonly pronounced as a
trisyllable, and thus disconnected from the word
deal. Yet it is a mere compound from this very
word deal; and, just as a deal means a part, a
share, a piece chosen (originally a choosing), so
ordeal means a choosing out, or a selection made
with particular care, and hence a trial of a special
nature. The prefix or- is a mere variation of the
G. eras, which in 0. H. G. becomes ur-; so that
the G. urtheil is the English or-deal, properly a
dissyllable. Another peculiarity is that deal is also
spelt dole. WALTER W. SKEAT.
Cambridge.
" You KNOW WHO THE CRITICS ARE," &c. — The
observations under "Miscellaneous," in "N. & Q."
of 29th Nov., 1873, have reminded me of a very
striking passage in Pierre Charron's De la Sagesse.
His works, with those of Montaigne and Eabelais,
are the mines from which much that is true and
brilliant in modern French writings has been
drawn. Speaking of the extent to which the
judgment is influenced by the passions, Charron
says,—
"De la vient que 1'on obscurcit les belles et
genereuses actions d'autruy par des Tiles interpretations ;
1'on controuve des causes, occasions et intentions
mauvaises ou vaines, c'est un grand vice et preuve d'une
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5th S. I. JAN. 10, '74.
nature maligne, et jugement bien malade, il n'y a pas
grande subtilite ny suffisance en cela, mais de malice
beaucoup. Cela vient d'envie qu'ils portent a la gtoire
d'autruy, ou qu'ils jugent des autres selon eux, ou bien
qu'ils ont le goust altere et la veue si troublee
qu'ils ne peuvent concevoir la splendeur de la vertu
en sa purete naifve. De cette mesme cause et
source vient que nous faisons valoir les vertus et les vices
d'autruy, et les estendons plus qu'il ne faut, des parti-
cmlarites en tirons des consequences et conclusions
generales : s'il est amy tout luy sied bien, ses vices
mesmes seront vertus; s'il est ennemy, ou particulier ou
de party contraire, il n'y a rien de bon. Tellement que
nous faisons honte a nostre jugement, pour assouvir rios
passions."
Charron wrote this nearly 300 years ago ; yet it
is unfortunately as applicable to the French of the
present day as it was to those of his time.
EALPH N. JAMES.
Ashford, Kent.
EPITAPH OF CARDINAL HOWARD AT EOME. —
I copied the following from the gravestone of
Cardinal Howard in the church of S. Maria Sopra
Minerva, from which he derived his " title " : —
"D. 0. M.
PHILLIPPO THOM.E HOWARD DE NORFOLCIA ET ARUNDELIA
S.R.E. PRESBYTERO CARD. TIT. S.M. SUP. MINERVAM
EX SAC. FAMILIA FR. PR(ED.
S. 3IARI.E MAIORIS ARCHI PRESBYTERO
MAGN.&: BRITANNIA PROTECTOR
MAGNO ANGLIJE ELEEMOSINARIO
PATRICE ET PAUPERUM PATRI
FILII PROV. ANG1ICAN.E EIUSD. ORDINIS
PARKNTI ET RESTAURATORI OPT.
II.ERED. INSCRIPTI MO3RENTES P. P.
ANNUENTIBUS S.R.E. CARD.
PALUTIO DE ALTERIIS, FRANC NERLIO
GALEATlO MARESCOTTO, FABRITIO SPADA
SUPRESII TESTAM. EXECUTORIBUS
******
VIRTUTIS LAUS ACTIO
OB. XIV. KAL. JUL.
A.H.S. MDCXCIV.
-ETATIS S\JJK LXIV.
Where the asterisks stand is placed an escutcheon ;
Quarterly of eight, four in chief, and as many in
base : —
"1. Howard; 2. Brotherton; 3. Warren; 4. Mowbray;
(5. Aubigny); 6. Clun; 7. Maltravers ; (8. Woodville)."
The fifth and eighth quarters are scarcely visible-
Cardinal Howard, who was born in 1629, was
third son of Henry Frederick, twenty- first Earl of
Arundel ; and Almoner to Queen Catharine of
Braganza, wife of Charles II.
JOHN WOODWARD.
St. Mary's Parsonage, Montrose.
[See " JS. & Q." 2"" S. viii. 53, 75; 3rd S. iv. 69.]
"THE WAY OUT." — On leaving the Kremlin
(writes a traveller from Moscow) we reach a gate-
way near which a Government official is constantly
standing, and obliges the passers-by to take off their
hats. We are told that such is the general rule
which admits of no exception ; every one is com-
pelled to bow— and why 1 Because under this gate
the retreating army of Napoleon withdrew from
the Russian city, and finally left the invaded land
— an event to be ever kept in lively remembrance
by the nation. A. A. L.
Paris.
UNPUBLISHED LETTER OF MACAULAY. — Look-
ing over some papers of a deceased brother, I have
met with a letter addressed to him from the late
Lord Macaulay. It would appear that my brother
must have written to his lordship after the publi-
cation of his History of England ; but having no
copy of his letter, I can only surmise the import of
it from the reply. W. M. D — N.
" Albany, London, January 30, 1850.
' ' Sir, — I am much obliged to you for the trouble which
you have kindly taken. I think Penn a poor, shallow,
half-crazy creature ; but I am satisfied that he was not
a Papist. That he corresponded with Cardinal Howard
is probable enough. But what then 1 Burnet had a good
deal of intercourse with Cardinal Howard ; and nobody
suspected Burnet of being a Papist. Howard was an
honest, sensible, moderate man, who was connected by
blood and friendship with many of the most respectable
Protestants in England. It would have been well if
Penn had never kept worse company, or followed worse
advice, than Howard's.
"As to the other story — to what does it amount? A
nameless priest, talking to a nameless gaoler, calls Penn
father Penn ; a gossiping Prebendary runs open-mouthed
with the silly story to Sherlock. I see no sign of guilt
in the conduct of the accused person ; any man of spirit
would have acted in the same way.
" I have the honour to be, Sir,
" Your most obedient servant,
" C. Dameron, Esq., " W. B. MACAULAY.
" Hartlepool."
THE REAL RICHELIEU AND BULWER'S RICHE-
LIEU.— The other day, in reading Dr. Martin
Lister's Travels in France, circa 1699, I stumbled
upon a good old French epigram on the death of
Richelieu, 1642. I have thrown it roughly, but, I
think, faithfully, into verse : —
" Surrounding Richelieu on his bier,
Behold ten thousand lights appear;
Wouldn't one candle do as well
To light the Cardinal to Hell? "
Charles Lamb once said that "Voltaire was a
very good Jesus Christ — for the French." Would
it be cynical to say that Richelieu was a very good
hero for Thackeray's Bullwig the Immortal '? No
one that has read French history can forget the
" Red Man's " terrible declaration: —
" I never undertake anything without having well
thought over it ; but when once I have resolved, I
go straight to my end ; I crush every one ; I mow down
everyone; and then I cover everything over with my red
robe."
Richelieu's efforts were all directed to one sole
object, the establishment of a regal despotism. The
State is monarchical, he said; the king's will is»su-.
preme ; he alone should appoint the judges, and
command the subsidies. But behind this great
. I. JAN. 10, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
27
red chess-piece moved the wise invisible hand of the
world's ruler, and every noble that he sent to the
scaffold, every tower his cannon levelled, cleared
the way for the destruction of feudalism, and the
great purifying tornado of the Eevolution.
WALTER THORNBURY,
[We must request correspondents desiring information
on family matters of only private interest, to affix their
names and addresses to their queries, in order that the
answers may be addressed to them direct.]
ELIZABETH, QUEEN OF EGBERT BRUCE. — Mr.
Jervise, in Notices regarding the Antiquities of
Cullen in Banffshire, says : —
" It is said (possibly with truth, for I have seen no
record to the contrary), that Bruce's ' Queen Elizabeth's
bowels ' were buried at Cullen, she having died there,
probably on her way from the shrine of St. Duthac at
Tain ; and that for praying for her soul the king endowed
a chaplaincy in the church of St. Mary at Cullen. Fordun
makes no mention of the queen having died at Cullen,
but says that her body was laid in the choir of the kirk
of Dunfermline, where that of the king was subsequently
laid."
The fact of the queen's death at Cullen is con-
firmed by MSS. at Cullen House, the latest of
which, dated 1543, is a ratification by Queen Mary
of various endowments in favour of the kirk of
Cullen, and goes on to say —
" the auld chaiplanrie of fiwe pundis infeft by umquhile
our predecessoure King Robert the Bruce of gude
mynde," &c., " to pray for the saule of Elizabeth, his
spouse, quene of Scottii, quilk deceissit in our said burgh
of Culane, & hir bouaillis erdit in cure Lady Kirk therof,
be perpetuallie," &c.
Now, perhaps some of the contributors to
" N. & Q." will be able to say how it was that
Queen Elizabeth came to die at Cullen. Mr.
Jervise suggests that it might have been when she
was on her way from the shrine of St. Duthac.
But it is well known that at that shrine, or in the
neighbourhood of it, she was seized by the Earl of
Eoss, in 1306, and delivered up to the English.
She was carried to London, where she remained a
prisoner until after the battle of Bannockburn,
1314. Did she pay a second visit to St. Duthac's,
or what else brought her to Cullen to die ?
NORMAN-SCOT.
ADALLINDE, THE MOTHER OF THIERRI — one of
the concubines of Charlemagne, p. 27, " Vie de
Charlemagne," Les CEuvres d'Eginhard, par Alex-
andre Teulet, Archiviste. Pale'ographe, Paris,
1856. Is Adallinde the same person as Indiana
of the French drama, Indiana et Charlemagne,
Lyons ; and where can an account of the parentage
of either be found ? E.
" TWENTITEEM."— Can any reader of " N. & Q."
tell me exactly what day is designated by the term
" Twentiteem," i. e. Twentieth even? The expression
is perfectly well known about Almondbury, but
when you ask what day in January it marks, no one
can tell. I have made every effort to discover the true
date, but without success, owing to the diversity of
opinion which prevails. I am making a glossary
of trial terms, now almost completed, and I am
anxious to be set right on this point. A. E.
Almondbury.
EEGISTER BOOKS STAMPED. — In the register
books of a Wiltshire parish, I find that before-
the entry of each baptism from 1783 to 1785, and
of each burial from 1784 to 1786 there is a three-
penny stamp impressed. This is exclusive of the
baptisms and burials of paupers, which are regis-
tered on separate pages, and unstamped. Can any
of your readers tell me what is the meaning of these
stamps? W. C. P.-
PHIPPS FAMILY. — It is stated in Burke's Peerage
that—
" The Phipps family was, during the sixteenth and
early part of the seventeenth century, resident upon
landed property in the county of Lincoln, on which Col.
William Phipps raised a regiment of horse for the service
of King Charles during the civil wars."
I am anxious to know in what part of Lincoln-
shire the Phipps property was situated, and whete
I may find an account of this Col. William.
E P. D. E.
CYMBLING FOR LARKS. — Thornbei, in his Ac-
count of Blackpool (Lancashire) and iis Neighbour-
hood, 1837, sajs (p. 90)—
" Cymbling for larks was wont to be nsed as a very
common pastime. Now, however, it is scarcely known
by name, and the instruments peculiar to the art being
retained in the possession of a few curious individuals
only, are passing rapidly into disuse."
What was this pastime? What were the in-
struments used in it ? Do any of them exist in any
Lancashire or other museum 1
JOHN W. BONE, F.S.A.
CARMOLY (C.) Histoire des Medecins Juifs
Anciens et Modernes. I have before me " tome
premier" of this interesting book, published at
Brussels in 1844, 8vo., by the " Societe Encyco-
graphique des Sciences Medicalefi." The Preface
speaks of a second volume. I have made inquiries
through foreign booksellers, but cannot learn that
this ever appeared. Can any reader inform me 'I
The interesting nature of the promised contents
" Continuation de 1'histoire des medecins israelites
jusqu' aujourd'hui, une bibliographic medicale juive
de tous les pays et de toutes les langues, un coup-
d'oeil sur les e'pigrammes, satires et sarcasmes
dirig^s contre les medecins, et centre la medecine
Israelite depuis les temps les plus recule's, avec des
additions et corrections au premier volume ") makes
me desirous of obtaining it. WILLIAM BATES.
Birmingham.
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5'-u S. I. JAN. 10, 74,
" THE FAIR CONCUBINE ; or, the Secret History
of the Beautiful Vanella. Containing Her Amours
with Albimarides, P. Alexis, &c. London, W.
James, M.DCC.XXXII." 8vo., pp. 49. This is the
title of a scarce and curious volume, of which I
possess a copy. There is a frontispiece representing
Vanella at full length, under which are six lines of
verse. Unfortunately, in my copy, the binder has
cut off the initial letters of the first three lines ;
perhaps some of your readers may have a perfect copy
of the book, and may not object to supply the void.
I copy the verses as far as I have them : —
" he Old Patriarch we in Scripture find
eming sheep by Art the Breed Confin'd
made his Lambkins o' the motled kind.
So Big Vanella with a Serious Air
Views ev'ry Feature with Attentive Care
To give her comeing Boy his Father's Princely Stare."
I should also feel obliged by a key to the persons
indicated by " Vanella," " Albimarides," and " P.
Alexis." H. S. A.
FARWELL FAMILY AND THE REPRESENTATIVES
OF GENERAL MONK, DUKE OF ALBEMARLE. — Who
is now the representative of the family of Monk of
Potheridge, co. Devon ? The General had no chil-
dren ; but his brother Nicholas Monk, Bishop of
Hereford, had two daughters, Mary, who married
Arthur Farwell, and Elizabeth, who married Cur-
wen Rawlinson. The latter left two sons, Monk
and Christopher, who both died unmarried, but
the [property, or a good part of it, came into the
Rawlinson family, and has descended to the Rigges
and Moores, but the blood evidently terminated by
the death, s.p., of Elizabeth's children.
Are there any descendants of Mary, who married
Arthur Farwell, and can any one tell me who he
was ? Was he related — and, if so, how — to the
old family of Farwell or Farewell, of Hill-Bishop
Holford, and Totsess 1 — one of whom, Sir George
Farwell, married Mary, daughter of Sir Edwarc
Seymour, Bart., of Berry Pomeroy Castle, near
Totness, heir male of his grandfather, the Duke o"
Somerset, the Lord Protector. If this Arthu:
Farwell is of that family, it will make two alliance
with Plantagenet blood. Any information abou
this Arthur Farwell, or the descendants of the
Monks, will be much valued by
C. T. J. MOORE.
Frampton Hall, near Boston.
EDMUND PERCEVAL, OF WESTON-IN-GORDANO
SOMERSET. — I wish for information concerning hi
daughters ; he died in 1551. In Anderson's Genea
logical History of the House of Yvery, it is state
that Anne, Margaret, Elizabeth, and Christian, hi
daughters by his second wife, all died withou
issue, and the authority is given as " Visit. Dor
& Soms., per Rob. Coke, penes Comitem c
Oxford." This visitation, I presume, is now MS
Harleian, 1559, in the British Museum ; but ther
no assertion in it that the daughters died
ithout issue. The pedigree of Lower of Cornwall
Miscell. Geneal. et Heraldica, i. 266) declares that
iomas Lower married Margrett, daughter of
Edmund Percivall of Somersetshire ; and it is
elieved that the wife of Richard Lowle, who came
'om Somersetshire to New England, and who
larried • , daughter of Percivall (MS. Harl.,
559), was another daughter. Can any reader of
N. & Q." give me any information on this point 1
W. S. APPLETON.
Boston, U.S.A.
BURNING THE DEAD. — I read somewhere (in one
f Dr. Lankester's works,* if I remember aright),
ome time ago, that the French burn their relatives
ometinies, and make mourning rings, which they
r, out of the iron obtained from the bodies. Is
his the case 1 The ancient laws of Tuscany used
0 allow — in fact, in some cases insisted on — bodies
>eing burnt t ; but I was not aware that the
French followed the custom which is so common
imongst the heathen of this colony and the East
enerally. Burning corpses in England is illegal.
What is the statute which makes it so ]
The servants of the Ranee (widow of Runjeet
ingh, the Rajah of the Punjaub, and mother of
H.H. the Maharajah Dhuleep Singh) wished, on
death in 1863, to burn Her Highness's corpse.
This was not done, as the British Government
ntimated to the Ranee's followers that the laws of
Sngland would not permit of it. What was done
with the corpse ? J. W. S.
Ceylon.
"JACARANDA." — To what use is this wood
applied 'I The tree itself, with its ash-like leaves
and deep blue bell -shaped blossoms clustering
round the branches, presents a charming aspect.
1 never saw it, except on the South American
Continent, and am surprised that it should not (so
far as I am aware) have been introduced into our
great conservatories. S.
PIN-BASKET. — What is the origin of this expres-
sion as used in the annexed passages from Asgill 1
Its only metaphorical sense recognized by the
dictionaries is " the youngest child of a family": —
" And I do also believe that this expression is now
calculated to be the last of the exceptions, as the pin-
laslet upon me of what I can neither answer nor ex-
cuse."— Defence, &c., 1712, p. 56.
" But, as children use to keep their plumbs to the last,
so our author (after all his preliminary reasons) hath
kept the Will of King Henry the Eighth as a stone in
his sleeve, for the pin-basket or clencher to all the rest."
— The Succession of the House of Hannover Vindicated,
&c. (edition 1714), p. 4.
"I find he hath met with something he is mighty
fond of, and hath made it his pin-haslet of instances. "—
The Pretender's Declaration Abstracted, &c. (1715), p. 17.
* On Food or On Animal Products.
f As, for instance, in the case of Percy Bysshe Shelley
5* S. I. JAN. 10, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
" As the pin-basket, or murdering stroke to Chris-
tianity," &c. — Asgill upon Woolston (1730), p. 13.
F. H.
JYIarlesford.
" VIGILANTIA ET FiDELiTATE." — Was there any
English family of note in the seventeenth cen-
tury having this motto, and, if so, was any lady
in it named Diana ? J. C. J.
JOHN OF GUILDFORD. — Who was he ?
A. M.
BLIND HARRY'S WALLACE, — Wanted, the date
and place of publication of the above, in the black
or German letter. J. S.
WILLIAM LAURENCE, EECTOR OF STRETHAM
1615 TO 1621. — Can any of your readers give me
any information about him ? In 1621 he died and
was buried in the church. " The Right Worshipfull
Mr. William Laurence, parson of this towne and
of Newton, was buryed the 25th daye of Januarie."
The title " Eight Worshipfull " shows that he held
some dignity, such as chancellor, archdeacon, &c. ;
but hitherto I have been unable to find out what
it was. I suspect, but I have no positive proof,
that he was of Queen's College, Cambridge, and
elected Fellow in 1573. HUGH PIGOT.
Stretham Rectory, Ely.
EARLE'S " PHILOLOGY OF THE ENGLISH
TONGUE." — In reading, or rather re-reading, this
delightful little book, a small query occurs to
me. Mr. Earle describes the Runic character
(>) for th (the A.-Saxon thorn) as having main-
tained itself in the English language to the close
of the fifteenth century, and as having survived in
the. shape of y in the words the and that (ye and yt),
" down close to our own times." " It may be
doubted," he adds, "whether the practice has
entirely ceased even now." Do any old-fashioned
people still write ye for the; and when was the
form last used by printers ] We are all familiar
with it in old letters and old Bibles. C. P. F.
DRUMMOND OF COLYNHALZIE. — What was the
Christian name of the daughter of Drummond of
Colynhalzie whom John Macaulay. (killed at the
battle of Preston, anno 1745) married, and was she
an only daughter 1 J. M. A.
J. S. MILL ON " LIBERTY."— Can any reader of
" N. & Q." refer me to a review of John Stuart
Mill's book on "Liberty" in any of the Quarterlies,
or to any book, such as Mansel's, where it is
examined ] C. A. W.
Mayfair.
CLOCKMAKERS. — How can I find out where the
following clockmakers resided in London ?— Thos.
Tompion, Joseph Knibb, John Monkhouse, Robt.
Bumstead, Rich. Gunter. A. R. G.
THE FIRST COMMERCIAL TREATY OF ENGLAND.
— Haydn (Dictionary of Dates, art. " Treaties ")
says, " the first commercial treaty was with Guy,
Earl. of Flanders, Edw. II., 1274," and in Percy
Anecdotes — " Commerce " — it is said, " the first
commercial treaty on record is that with Haquin,
King of Norway, in 1217." Can any reader of
" N. & Q." explain the difference between these
statements ? G. LAURENCE GOMME.
UNPUBLISHED POEMS BY BURNS.
(4th S. xii. 470, 523.)
All the pieces referred to by DR. RAMAGE,
as having been recently sold at Sotheby's sale,
professedly holograph MSS. of hitherto unpub-
lished effusions of the bard, have, with exception
of the one called The Cloaciniade, been long
familiar to persons acquainted with a small volume
of licentious songs, issued anonymously at Edin-
burgh, shortly after Burns's death. Its title is as
follows : " The Merry Muses of Caledonia; a collec-
tion of favourite Scots Songs, ancient and modern;
selected for the use of the Crochallan Fencibles."
This was a social club composed of bon vivants of
the middle and upper walks of Edinburgh society
who met in a noted tavern in Anchor Close, and
of which the bulk of the poet's Edinburgh corre-
spondents were members. In this Club Song-Book
the authors' names are not stated, nor is the name
of Burns referred to, either as editor or contributor.
Nevertheless the correspondence of the poet reveals
the fact that, about the end of 1793, such a collec-
tion was in process of formation by him. Seven
or eight of the less indelicate pieces contained in
it are embraced in the publications of Currie,
Cromek, and other editors, as genuine productions
of Burns, two of these having been published by
Johnson in his lifetime, and acknowledged by the
author. Some further account of this Crochallan
volume will be found at vol. ii. p. 342, of M'Kie's
Kilmarnock Edition of Burns, 1871.
It appears odd to find a prominent annotator
of Burns like DR. RAMAGE of Wallace Hall,
Dumfries, asking for information about Robert
Cleghorn, to whom the Burns MSS. in question
seem to have originally belonged. He was a far-
mer at Saughton Mills, in the neighbourhood of
Edinburgh ; his name is found in the list of sub-
scribers to the author's Edinburgh edition, 1787,
and after the poet's death we find, in the list of
subscribers in behalf of his bereaved family, dated
Aug. 23, 1796, "Robert Cleghorn, Saughton Mills,
21. 2s. ; Mrs. Cleghorn, 1Z. Is." He was among the
larliest of Burns's Edinburgh associates, and ap-
parently was the means of bringing Johnson, the
music engraver, and the poet together, and thus
enlisting the soul and services of the Latter in the
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[[5th S. I. JAN. 10, 74.
formation of that invaluable reservoir of Scottish
song, called the Scots Musical Museum. At the
close of volume first, published in May, 1787, is
given the old song, Bonie Dundee, with eight
lines added by Burns. These were supplied at
the request of Cleghorn, and sent accompanied by
the following note : — " To Mr. Cleghorn, Farmer
(God bless the Trade !) Dear Cleghorn, you will
see by the above that I have added a stanza to
Bonie Dundee. If you think it will do, you may
set it agoing 'upon a ten-stringed instrument, and
on the psaltery.' — E. B." In this connexion I may
mention that in the bard's monument at Edinburgh
is preserved the original letter, dated Feb. 1, 1787,
addressed by the Earl of Buchan to Burns, and
on the fly-leaf we find in the poet's handwriting a
rough pencil-jotting of the first eight lines of this
same song, Bonie Dundee, noted down from Cleg-
horn's singing.
Only two of the letters addressed to Cleghorn
by Burns have found their way into the poet's
correspondence, and song is the main topic of both.
Cleghorn is also affectionately referred to in the
Thomson correspondence on more than one oc-
casion. In the summer of 1795, the poet was
visited by Cleghorn at Dumfries, when Dr. Max-
well and Syme of Kyedale were brought in to have
a rare sederunt over the bowl of Inverary marble
on the occasion. The poet's next letter, dated 21st
August of that year, conveys the thanks of Mrs.
Burns for his " obliging, very obliging visit," and
encloses a rare song, called Gaffer Gray, which
Cleghorn is to be sure to return, and not give any
copies away. A song from the farmer, called
Peggy Ramsay, is craved by way of equivalent.
(Peg-a-Ramsay, by the way, must be a very
ancient song, being quoted in the Twelfth Night
of Shakspeare.)*
Looking, therefore, at the character of the lyrics
communicated by Burns to Cleghorn, such as Act
sederunt of the Session and its companions, the
manuscripts of which have so recently been brought
to light, it seems evident that this jolly miller and
farmer of Midlothian had a considerable share in
the formation, if not also the publication, of the
Crochallan facetiae referred to.
WM. SCOTT DOUGLAS.
DR. JOHNSON AND MRS. TURTON, NEE HICK-
MAN.
(3rd S. ix. 280.)
ENQUIRENDO, at the above reference, asserts
that a note to Boswell's Johnson (edit. 1835),
which supposes Miss Hickman (to whom Dr.
' Ne'er sae murky blew the night
That drifted o'er the hill,
But bonie Peg-a-Ramsay
Gat girst to her mill."
Johnson's Museum, vol. vi.
Johnson wrote some amatory verses*) to have been
;he "daughter of the friendly schoolmaster at
Stourbridge," is " an egregious mistake."
" Miss Hickman (he says) -was the daughter of Walter
Hickman, Esq. (who was grandson of Sir William Hick-
man, Bart.), a gentleman of considerable estate. She
married Dr. Turton of Birmingham, and they were the
parents of Dr. John Turton of Brasted Park, Kent,
physician to his late Majesty George IV."
These statements are repeated in the last edition
of Burke's Landed Gentry (art. " Turton") ; and it
is there further asserted that Dr. Turton was one of
the sons of Sir John Turton, Baron of the Ex-
jhequer, temp. William III., the fact being that
Sir John Turton had only two sons,. William, who
married and had issue, and John, who died an in-
fant in 1677.
Now the lady who married Dr. Turton, and to
whom Dr. Johnson addressed the verses in ques-
tion, was Dorothy Hickman, a member of the old
Stourbridge family of that name, and half sister
of the Rev. Walter Hickman, the first incumbent
of St. Thomas's Church, Stourbridge, and also, in
all probability, t head master of the Grammar
School there. This reverend gentleman died about
1741, leaving an unsigned and undated will£
whereby he gave and devised as follows : —
' To my dearly beloved kinswoman and betrothed wife,
Mary Acton the younger, of Stourbridge, daughter of
Clement Acton,§ late of Hales Furnace, all my real estate
in the town of Stourbridge, or elsewhere, to her and her
heirs for ever, in token of the great love and affection I
have for her. My study of books to my nephew, John
Turton."\\
On the 25th of November, 1741, administration
was (with the consent of Mary Acton) granted to
John Turton and Dorothy his wife ; which Dorothy
is styled " the only sister of the half blood, and
next of kin to the said Walter Hickman."
In 1747 further administration de bonis non ("so
far as his goods were left unadministered to by
Dorothy, wife of John Turton, his sister and
administratrix ") was granted to Henry Hickmaa,
of Stourbridge, clothier, IT uncle of the intestate.
Walter Hickman's mother appears to have been
Dorothy, daughter of Walter Moseley, Esq., of
* " To a lady playing on a spinet."
f Until quite recently the incumbency of St. Thomas's
was always held by the head master of the Grammar
School.
1 Preserved in the Will Office, Edgar Tower, Worcester.
§ See Burke's Landed Gentry, Art. "Acton of Gatacre
Park "
|| In an editorial note (3rd S. ix. 280) it is stated that
Dr. Turton was married to Miss Hickman in 1734. If
this is the correct date, the nephew must have been a
child at the date of Walter's will.
T! The Hickmanswere for several generations engaged
in this trade. Scott— the descendant of a family of
clothiers — in his History of Stoiirlridge. asserts that it
was carried on at Stourbridge as early as 1693; but
Richard Hickman, of Stourbridge, clothworker, died in
] 627. John Hickman was a clothier at Worcester about
a century earlier.
5* S. L JAM. 10, 74.]
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31
the Mere, Enville, Staffordshire, who was related
to the Acton family ; but I am at present unable
to state the name of his father, for Dorothy
Moseley was twice married and both her husbands
were named Hickman. The first was " Blchard
Hickman, of Stourbridge, in the parish of Old-
swinford, gent.," who died in 1710, aged 29 ; and
the second " Gregory Hickman,* of the city of
Chester, merchant." She died in 1722, aged thirty-
three, and was buried with her first husband at
Enville.t
In the Gentleman's Magazine for July, 1813,
p. 18, there is a letter, dated Oct. 30, 1730, ad-
dressed by Dr. Johnson to Mr. Gregory Hickman,
of Stourbridge, in which the writer returns thanks
for the " favours and assistance " he had received
from Mr. Hickman when he yas a candidate for
the situation of usher in the Stourbridge Grammar
School. " But while I am acknowledging one
favour (he writes) I must beg another, that you
would excuse the composition of the verses you had
desired." " Be pleased to consider (he continues)
that versifying against one's inclination is the most
disagreeable thing in the world ; and that one's
own disappointment is no inviting subject."
This shows that Johnson was known to Mr.
Hickman as a writer of verses.
Jane, the widow of another Gregory Hickman,
of Stourbridge, was, in 1703, the wife of Joseph
Ford, M.D., of the same place, who, I think, may
have been the brother of Johnson's mother. It is
well known that " Parson Ford " (immortalized by
Hogarth) was the son of a physician who was Mrs.
Johnson's brother ; but it seems to be doubtful
whether his (the physician's) baptismal name was
Joseph or Cornelius. If he should turn out to be
Dr. Joseph Ford of Stourbridge, it would, perhaps,
account for Johnson's being educated there. J
I snould mention that the Stourbridge Hick-
mans (though not descended from Sir William
Hickman, Bart.) have always been of consideration
and importance.
One of them, Dr. Hemy Hickman, § who at one
* The Irish Hickmans are descended from a Gregory
Hickman, a merchant at Hamburgh. According to Ed-
mondson (Baronagium,) he was a brother of Dixie
Hickman, ancestor of the Earls of Plymouth, but I very
much doubt this.
f M. I. in Enville church. On the tablet are the arms
of Hickman (Per pale indented argent and azure) im-
paling Moseley.
% Boswell says, "After having resided for some time
at the house of his uncle, Cornelius Ford, Johnson was,
at the age of fifteen, removed to the school of Stourbridge
in Worcestershire." Croker may have some note upon this,
but the only edition of Boswell to which I have access
here is the first. In Peck's Desiderata Curiosa, i. 222,
is an " Epitaph for Dr. Joseph Ford, by his son, the late
Rev. Dr. Ford." He is described as a physician " vetusta
gente oriundi"and "ad Deos abiit sexagenarius.'* No
date is given.
§ Henry Hickman presented a library to the Stour.
time "taught logic and philosophy at Stourbridge,"
was the author of several controversial treatises in
defence of the Nonconformists (Athen. Ox.). Pepys
dined with him on the 21st of August, 1660 ; and
Bishop Crewe, to whom he had been tutor, met
with him at Leyden in 1688. He had a Fellow-
ship at Magdalen, which he was obliged to vacate
at the Restoration. He afterwards became minister
of the English Church at Leyden, where he died
about 1692. H. SYDNEY GRAZEBROOK.
P.S. Charles Hickman, Bishop of Londonderry,
1702-1713, is said to have been a native of North-
amptonshire. Is anything known of his ancestry t
Henry Hickman (mentioned above) appears to
have been, at one time, rector of Brackley.
ST. CUTHBERT (4th S. xii. 274, 311, 376, 438.)—
MR. MUNBY writes with some warmth in reply
to D. P. I think the best plan is to take his
remarks for what they are worth. I would simply
ask for what reason should St. Cuthbert's burial-
place be kept a secret ? Without some satisfactory
cause for the mystery, we are surely quite justified
in believing that the spot immediately east of the
High Altar Screen was his burial-place. The
shrines of St. Erkenwald in Old St. Paul's
Cathedral, of St. Edward the Confessor in West-
minster Abbey, of St. Alban in St. Alban's Abbey
Church, and many others, are known to be in
similar positions, — why not also St. Cuthbert's at
Durham ? R. FERREY.
[The Rev. John Pickford reminds us that a paper on
St. Cutbbert, from the pen of the late venerable F. C. H.,
appeared in our 3rd S. iv. 44 ; in it the statement of the
Hook of Days on the subject is dealt with. He also
refers to Marmion, Canto II. stanza xiv., where Walter
Scott alludes to the secrecy observed with regard to the
precise spot of the last resting-place of the saint.]
D. P., before making statements on facts of his-
tory, will do well to consult authorities. He says the
Benedictines " built and paid for Durham monastic
Cathedral." The author of the translation of
St. Cuthbert says that Bishop Aldwin did it.
" Venerandus antistes Aldunus ecclesiam tertio,
ex quo earn fundaverat, anno, pridie nonas Sep-
tembris sollenniter dedicavit." The venerable
Bishop Aldwin solemnly dedicated the church
which he had founded, on the fourth day of Sep-
tember, in the third year from its commencement.
This, I presume, is testimony which D. P. will not
be disposed to gainsay, especially as it is supported
by the authority of the Bollandists, who say of
their account — " Ex codice MS. Nicolai Belfortii,
suppleta ex Historia Dunelmensi Turgoti."
EDMUND TEW, M.A.
bridge Grammar School about the year 1665. It was in
existence a few years ago, during the head-mastership
of the Rev. Giffard Wells, but it has now disappeared.
The books, being chiefly theological, were not pleasant
reading, but surely they ought to have been preserved.
32
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5th S. I. JAN. 10, 74.
I send you a bookseller's advertisement which
may interest your readers : —
" Raine, M.A., Rev. James. Saint Cuthbert, with an
account of the State in which his Remains were found
upon the Opening of his Tomb in Durham Cathedral in
the year 1827. 4to. uncut, plates, published at II. Us. Qd.,
for 7s. 6d."
According to the secret information possessed
by D. P., Mr. Kaine and his clerical friends con-
nected with the cathedral made a great mistake :
be it so. Will D. P. kindly inform the readers of
" N. & Q." who the bishop was, interred in the
tomb described as being that of St. Cuthbert, and
why secrecy need be observed in relation to the
resting-place of the latter? According to the
history of the times the body had many resting-
places in its transit from Lindisfarne Abbey
through the county of Northumberland, before its
final resting-place at Durham was determined,
from whence, tradition says, it could not be moved.
Lindisfarne was the original see, afterwards re-
moved to Durham, and all the places where the
body rested on the way were considered as part of
the county of Durham, although in another county.
I visited the Cathedral at Durham a short time
after the opening of the tomb, in the company of
some friends, and then no doubt was expressed by
the officials as to its being the last resting-place of
the body of the saint. I, however, remember that
'it was stated that Mr. Eaine was absent when the
tomb was opened by the workmen employed ; he
was, however, sent for immediately, but unfor-
tunately lost the great sight of the robes, as they
first appeared to those present, from his momentary
absence. The question as to it being the tomb of
St. Cuthbert or some other bishop, ought not to
be left in doubt. J. B. P.
Barbourne, Worcester.
_ "THE IRISH BRIGADE" (4th S. xii. 496.)— The
title of the song is, properly, The Battle Eve of the
Brigade. It first appeared in the Nation, Irish
newspaper, 1844, and has since been many times
republished among the songs and ballads con-
tributed to that periodical, under the title of The
Spirit of the Nation. I have the fiftieth edition,
printed from new type, and published by James
Duffy, Dublin, 1870. The tune is, " Contented I
am [and contented I'll be, EesolVd in this," &c.];
which may be found in Calliope, 1788, p. 346, and
in the Edinburgh Musical Miscellany, 1792, vol. i.
p. 91. There is another, " Contented I am, and
contented I '11 be, For what," &c., written by G. A.
Stevens, 1754. A third, in St. Cecilia, 1779, p.
284, is, apparently, a moralized adaptation of G. A.
Stevens's song. The author of The Eve of the Irish
Brigade was Thomas Davis, who died about 1845,
and was for awhile the recognized leader in song
and ballad poetry of the Young Ireland party.
Dissatisfied with the lyrics which he heard sung,
Davis had warmly advocated the production oi
fresh national songs, and being at first feebly
seconded, was forced to volunteer his own services.
Many of his poems are of high merit. He was
incerely lamented at his early death. His friend
Samuel Ferguson, LL.D., Q.C., author of the well-
known Forging of the Anchor, &c., wrote a beautiful
Lament for Thomas Davis, commencing thus : —
" I walked through Ballinderry in the spring-time,
When the bud was on the tree ;
And I said, in every fresh-ploughed field beholding
The sowers striding free,
Scattering broad-cast forth the corn in golden plenty
On the quick seed-clasping soil,
Even such, this day, among the fresh-stirred hearts of
Erin,
Thomas Davis is thy toil ! "
Another Lament for TJiomas Davis, written by
J. Frazer, beginniag —
" Is he gone from our struggle, —
The pure of the purest?"
may be found in Edward Hayes's Ballads of Ireland
(n. d., but before 1869), vol. i. p. 324. John Fisher
Murray also wrote a poem To the Memory of
Thomas Davis, commencing thus : —
" When on the field where freedom bled."
This is printed at page 29 of the posthumous col-
lection of The National and Historical Ballads,
Songs, and Poems, ly Thomas Davis, M.E.I. A.,
new edition, 1869. "The Battle Eve of the
Brigade," and " Fontenoy, 1745," occupy pp. 158-
163 of the same volume. Davis gives a good his-
torical sketch of the Brigade, in an Appendix. An
account is given, also, in John Mitchell's History
of Ireland, chap, x., Glasgow, Cameron & Ferguson,
1869. The Brigade dates from the expatriation
after the Treaty of Limerick, 1691, and Sarsfield
was the commander. He fell at Landen, 1693, " in
the van of victory" against William III. At the
Eescue of Cremona, 1702, Dillon, Burke, Mac-
donnell, and Mahony were among the leaders of
the gallant Brigade. Dillon, with one-fourth of
the officers, and one-third of the men, fell at the
victorious onslaught of Fontenoy, — O'Brien, Lord
Clare, in command,— in 1745. The "Battle Eve"
probably refers to Fontenoy, but I cannot answer at
present regarding Count Thomond. J. W. E.
Molash, Kent.
Count Thomond was Charles O'Brien, sixth
Viscount Clare so-called. His grandfather, the
third Viscount, followed James II. to France and
was attainted, and left descendants who entered the
French service. Count Thomond, on the death,
1741, of the eighth Earl of Thomond, became heir
male of the O'Briens, and but for the attainder,
would have succeeded to the earldom, which he,
however, assumed, as he had before done the
viscounty of Clare. He died 1761, leaving one
son, . Charles, who died, unmarried, 1774 (Ann.
Eeg. xvii. 200). The heir male of the O'Briens is
now said to be, not^Lord Inchiquin, who is of a
5th S. I. JAN. 10, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
33
younger branch, but the Rev. Edward O'Brien,
vicar of Thornton Curtis, who would, therefore, if
his descent were proved and the attainder reversed,
be Earl of Thomond and Viscount Clare. See
Burke's Peerage, art. " Inchiquin."
C. F. S. WARREN, M.A.
The words and music of the song beginning
" The mess tents were full," are printed in Mr.
Wellington Guernsey's Songs of Ireland (Metzler
& Co.), with the following introductory note, sup-
plying the information required by L. W. : —
" The history of the Irish Brigade would fill many
volumes; indeed, the romance of history has not many
brighter pages. At the submission of Ireland in ]603,
O'Sullivan Bear and some others, excepted from the
amnesty, took service and obtained high rank in Spain ;
and after the flight of O'Neil and O'Donnell in 1607,
numbers of Irish soldiers crowded into all the Continental
services. We find them holding commissions in France,
Spain, Austria, and Italy, where their descendants are to
be found to the present day. 3Iany of the Irish, who
had lost their fortunes by the Cromwellian wars, were
also forced to fly for service on the Continent. In all
the great battles and campaigns on the Continent of
Europe, for nearly a century and a half, they bore a
conspicuous part; at Fontenoy, their last crowning
victory in the French service was bloody and complete.
Louis XV. rode along the Irish lines and personally
thanked them, whilst George II. uttered at the time
that memorable imprecation on the Penal Code, 'Cursed be
the laws which deprive me of such subjects.' Their
history after Fontenoy may be easily given. In 1747
they lost their colonel, Dillon, 130 officers, and 1,600
men, killed at the fight of Lanfeldt; some served in
India, and the remainder in Germany, from 1756 to 1762,
and during the American War in the French West India
Islands. At this time they were greatly reduced, and in
1793 completely broken up as the Irish Brigade."
The words were written by Thomas Davis (born
1814, died 1845), a poet of great excellence in the
patriotic school, although an occasional fierceness
sometimes marred the usefulness of his productions.
The song is properly entitled The Battle Eve of the
Brigade, and is supposed to be sung at the mess-
table of the Brigade the night previous to the
rescue of Cremona in Italy.
EDWARD F. RIMBAULT.
FLINT GUNS (4th S. xii. 517.)— The earliest
example of a flint lock proper (not a snapphance,
which differed slightly from it in the construction
of the hammer and cover for the pan), with which
I am acquainted, is the small gun in the Tower
Armoury, No. 79, known as the Birding Piece of
King Charles I. when Prince of Wales, and dated
on lock and barrel 1614.
W. J. BERNHARD SMITH.
Temple.
If H. FISHWICK would refer to Scott's History
of the British Army, he will find plenty of informa-
tion on the subject, and that flint locks were used
before the seventeenth century. BROWN BESS.
In Haydn's Dictionary of Dates, edit. 1873,
article " Fire Arms," it is stated :—
" The petronel (from poitrine, the 'chest) or arquebus
came into use 1480 ; and the musket employed in the
armies of the Emperor Charles V. about 1521 ; these
were of very rude construction, being first discharged by
a lighted match, afterwards, about 1517, by a wheel-lock,
then by the flint. The match-lock and wheel-lock super-
seded by the flint-lock about 1692."
Haydn cites no authority for his statements.
FREDK. RULE.
" SHEPHERDESS" AS A NAME (4th S. xii. 426.) —
I remember an old woman of Hadleigh, in Suffolk,
who bore this as a Christian name. She herself
gave me the following reason for it. The Festival
of Bishop Blaize, the reported inventor of the art
of combing wool, used to be observed in Hadleigh.
There was a grand procession through the 'town of
persons connected with the wool trade, and a lady
attired as a shepherdess rode in state in a post-
chaise carrying a lamb in her lap. The parents of
the old woman Avere so impressed with this magni-
ficent spectacle, that they gave to their child, who
was baptized shortly afterwards, the Christian
name of Shepherdess. HUGH PIGOT.
Stretham Rectory, Ely.
"TALENTED" (4th S. xii. 427.)— In 1832, S. T.
Coleridge thus denounces the introduction of this
word (July 8, 1832) :—
"I regret to see that vile and barbarous vocable
' talented ' stealing out of the newspapers into the leading
reviews and most respectable publications of the day.
Why not shillinged, farlhinged, tenpenced, &c.? ....
Most of these pieces of slang come from America."
To this, the Editor, H. N. C., adds, in a note,
" See ' eventuate ' in Mr. Washington Irving's
Tour on the Prairies." — Specimens of the Table-
Talk of 8. T. Coleridge, ed. 2, Murray, 1836,
p. 171. F. S.
Churchdown.
LADY JANE COVERT, OF PEPPER HARROW (4th
S. xii. 428.) — In Bingley's History of Surrey it is
stated that " Denzil, Lord Holies, married the
widow of Sir Walter Covert, of Slangham, in
Sussex." Lord Holles's second wife was called
Jane. This then may be the "right worshipful
Lady." I can only offer this as an idea. There
are many allusions in the work to the estates, &cf,
but too long to quote here. EMILY COLE.
Teignmouth.
PILLAR POSTS (4th S. xii. 445.) — One of these
stood a few years ago, and probably still stands
alone, by a turnpike road in Shropshire. It was a
massive post of oak, with a chamber to receive letters,
cut out of the solid, and closed by an iron door
fastened from behind by means of a key like a bed
winch, with which the guard of the mail coach used
to open it when he passed. The contrivance was
so simple, and the slit for the letters so large, that
their addresses could be read by any one looking
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[5th S. I. JAN. 10, 74.
in, and they might easily have been abstracted. I
first saw it in 1844, and it then looked as if it had
stood for a hundred years.
THE GREY MOUSE IN " FAUST " (4th S. xii. 516.)
— Shelley's translation appears to me to explain
this passage sufficiently : —
" Mephistopheles. — That was all right my friend ;
Be it enough that the mouse was not grey ;
Do not disturb your hour of happiness
With close consideration of such trifles."
W. J. BERNHARD SMITH.
Temple.
CHAUCER'S FELLOW SQUIRES (4th S. xii. 467.) —
There is, I think, either a misprint or a clerical
error in the second of these names. Should not
Whichcors be Whichcote 1 The former name I
never met with or heard of ; the latter is that of a
family of gentle blood which takes its name from
Whichcote, in Shropshire, and through a marriage
with a Lincolnshire heiress, became settled at
Harpswell, in that county, in the reign of Ed-
ward IV. See Shirley's Noble and Gentlemen of
England, first edition, p. 134.
EDWARD PEACOCK.
Bottesford Manor, Brigg.
OLD ELECTION SQUIB (4th S. xii. 513.)— The
election, to which this squib refers, took place in
November, 1768. George Cooke had died in the
same year in which he had been elected with John
Wilkes. According to Smith's Register of Con-
tested Elections, published 1842, second edition,
page 102, the results of both the elections were : —
" MIDDLESEX.
1768. John Wilkes 1,292
George Gooke 827
Sir W. B. Procter, Bart. ... 807
1768, November, vice Cooke, deceased.
John Glynn 1,542
Sir W. B. Procter, Bart. ... 1,278 "
SIMEON KAYNER.
Pudsey.
STOBALL (4th S. xii. 516.) — This is, I apprehend,
Stoolball. The game is yet played in Sussex. For
a description of it see " N. & Q.," 3rd S. xi. 457.
" Stoil-ball " was one of the games which in former
days men were forbidden to play in churchyards.
See Myre, Instructions for Parish Priests (E. E.
Text Soc.), p. 11. EDWARD PEACOCK.
Bottesford Manor, Brigg.
See Halliwell's Dictionary.
B. S. CHARNOCK.
Gray's Inn.
The following extract from Mr. Pycroft's Cricket
Field, p. 7, may possibly assist MR. COOKE'S re-
searches : —
" The great John Locke wrote in 1679—' The sports
of England, for a curious stranger to see, are . . . .
stob-ball, in Tothill Fields.' Here again (says Mr.
Pycroft) we have no cricket. Stob-ball is a different
game."
But query whether the derivation is not " stop-
ball," which might make the principle, at any rate,
that of cricket.
CHARLES F. S. WARREN, M.A.
Stoball, Stobball, Stop-ball, or Stow-ball, was
(according to Strutt's Sports and Pastimes) a game
frequently mentioned by writers of the sixteenth
and seventeenth centuries. It appears to have
closely resembled golf, and is thus described by
Aubrey in his Natural History of Wilts, quoted
in Halliwell's Archaic Dictionary : —
" It is peculiar to North Wilts, North Gloucestershire,
and a little part of Somerset, near Bath ; they strike a
ball stuffed very hard with quills, and covered with
soale-leather as big as a bullet, with a staffe commonly
made of withy, about three and a halfe feet long.
Colemdowne is the place so famous and so frequented
for stobball playing. The turfe is very fine, and the
rock freestone is within an inch and half of the surface,
which gives the ball so quick a rebound. A stobball ball
is of about four inches diameter, stuifed very hard with
quills, sowed into soale leather, and as hard as a stone.
I doe not hear that this game is used anywhere in Eng-
land but in this part of Wiltshire and Gloucestershire
adjoining. They strike the ball with a great turned staff
of about four feet long."
J. CHARLES Cox.
Hazelwood, Belper.
PERCY, EARL OF NORTHUMBERLAND, TEMP.
ELIZABETH (4th S. xii. 516.) — A coeval portrait on
panel was in the possession, of the late Sir Charles
Slingsby, at Scriven, and exhibited among the
Yorkshire worthies at Leeds in 1868.
EDWARD HAILSTONE.
Watton Hall.
At Alnwick Castle is a copy, by Phillips, of a
painting representing him in the robes of a Knight
of the Garter. J. MANUEL.
Newcastle-upon-Tyne.
There is an engraved portrait of Thomas Percy,
seventh Earl of Northumberland, who was be-
headed in 1572, in Sharpe's Memorials of the
Rebellion of 1569, p. 317. The original picture is
stated to be at Petworth.
CREW YARD (4th S. xii. 517) means a yard
where stock is folded, in the dialect of the northern
part of Lincolnshire. EDWARD PEACOCK.
Bottesford Manor, Brigg.
See Halliwell's Dictionary under " crew."
K. S. CHARNOCK.
Gray's Inn.
THUROT (4th S. xi. 365, 509 ; xii. 215, 525.)—
See " Notice respecting Francois Thurot, a French
Naval Officer, buried at Kirkmaiden, Wigtonshire,
in the year 1760. By George Corsane Cuning-
hame, Esq. Communicated by David Laing, Esq.,
F.S.A. Scot." — Proceedings of the Society of Anti-
quaries of Scotland, vol. v. (printed 1865), p. 364.
W. M.
Edinburgh.
5'" S. I. JAN. 10, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
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" THE BEE PAPERS " (5th S. i. 9.)— I have an
odd volume (the third) of a small edition of Gold-
smith, published by John Sharpe, Piccadilly, 1809,
which contains, as I think, the whole of "The Bee."
I shall be happy to send it by post to C. E. N., if
he would care to borrow it.
MORTIMER COLLINS.
Knowl Hill, Berks.
Vide the fourth volume (pp. 139-295) of The
Miscellaneous Works of Oliver Goldsmith, M.B.
A new edition, in 4 volumes. London, 1801.
No. I. of " The Bee " was first published on
Saturday, 6th October, 1759 ; the eighth and last
appeared on the 24th November in the same year.
SPARKS H. WILLIAMS.
See the " Globe " edition of Goldsmith's Works,
published by Macmillan & Co. W. A. C.
Glasgow.
NATIONAL AND PRIVATE FLAGS (4th S. xii. 474.)
— I may be wrong, and, if so, some correspondent
will correct me, but I believe private flags in
England are purely a matter of whim. The royal
standard and our naval and regimental flags are
arranged according to rule, and so were the
banners, &c., borne at funerals regulated by
heralds. But if a man chooses to hoist a colour to
show that he is at home, he can purchase which-
ever of our naval flags he pleases ; or if he prefers
his own arms, or any other device, in any shade of
colour, no one interferes with him. As to mixing
his own arms with the Union Jack, I never heard
of such a thing either cantonwise, or otherwise,
on the same flag. I am speaking as a landsman.
I do not know what they do in yachts. P. P.
" THE PRACTICAL CHRISTIAN " (4th S. xii. 448)
is by Dr. Eichard Sherlock, uncle of Bishop
T. Wilson of Sodor and Man. * *
HANGING IN CHAINS, AND HANGING IN IRONS
(4th S. x., xi., passim; xii. 38, 298.) — In some
recent numbers of " N. & Q." have been references
to the practice, common once in England, of hang-
ing criminals in chains, or irons, after execution.
I remember seeing several, I think eight, pirates
suspended on the side of the Thames opposite
Blackwall. The taverns had " spy-glasses," as
they were termed, Axed on the window-ledges for
visitors to use. Subsequently, when removed by
legislative enactment, some of the papers of the
day complained of the people of London being
deprived of their amusements, in not being able
to enjoy the view of these pirates. I met with, in
Sussex, a portion of a curiously contrived chain for
holding the leg, which had been dug up in the
neighbourhood of Pulborough, "where the man
was gibbeted years gone bye." The only other
relic of the sort which I am aware of being in
existence, is in the custody of the Corporation of
Eye, who, on the occasion of an archaeological
meeting, or other cheerful occurrence, lend it for
exhibition. It is a sort of hooped cage, and the
skull, with some bones of the skeleton, is still
remaining : I think it is stated to be the remains
of a malefactor of the name of Breeds. On going
'over a collection of newspapers in my possession, I
have made the following casual extracts, which
show that the gibbet was generally erected at some
other spot than where the execution took place : —
Edmond Tooll, executed on Fitichley Common, Feb. 2,
1700, and afterwards hung in chains.
Michael von Berghen and another, executed at the
Hartshorn Brewhouse, June, 1700, and afterwards hung
in chains between Mile End and Bow.
Herman Brian, Oct. 1707, executed in St. James's
Street, near St. James's house, and hanged in chains at
Acton Gravel Pits.
William Elby, executed at Fulham, in the Town, and
hung in chains there, August, 1707-
Richard Keele and William Lowther, executed Dec.,
1713, on Clerkenwell Green, conveyed to Holloway, and
there hung in chains.
John Tomkins, Feb., 1717, executed at Tyburn, with
14 other malefactors, and afterwards hung in chains.
Joseph Still, executed 1717, on Stamford Hill Road,
and hung in chains in the Kingsland Road.
John Price, 1717, executed in Bunhill Fields, and hung
in chains near Holloway.
Mrs. Catherine Hayes, burnt alive, May 9, 1726.
Sarah Malcolm, executed March 7, 1733, in Fleet
Street, near Fetter Lane.
Captain Lowry, Feb., 1752, executed at Execution
Pock, and hung in chains by the river side.
John Swan, March, 1752, executed at Chelmsford, and
hung in chains in Kpping Forest.
William Corbett, March, 1764, executed on Kennington
Common ; his body was fixed in irons, and hanged up
on Gallery Wall, near Mill Pond Bridge, in the New Road
leading from Rotherhithe to Deptford.
F. S. A.
Twickenham.
CARR=CARSE (4th S. xi. passim; xii. 89, 112,
234, 297.) — The answer of L. on this subject,
describing places in Scotland named Carse and
Kerrsland, is very valuable as showing the identity
of signification of the word on both sides the
border. The vowel is often changed, and the
word otherwise varied, I believe. It must be
much older as a land-name, however, than any
surnames; and the practice of deriving family
names from property or locality, so well known
in Scotland, is abundantly proved to have been
as common in the northern counties, where so
many families bear these primitive land-names as
their patronymic — Carr, How, Fell, Eigg, Peat,
Myers, Thwaites, Potts, Holmes, Gill, Moor, Moss,
Beck. Ing is not so common, except in its com-
pounds, Ingham, Ingram, Ingwell, Ingmire, &c.,
but there was a trial for high treason in 1820 of
Thistlewood, Ings, Brunt, &c.
At p. 297 X. P. D. describes car as applied to ,
islands in the marshy counties. Doubtless, those
->*.
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[5th S. I. JAN. 10, 74.
which have been formed by the growth of water
plants from the less stable bogs, and have first ap-
peared as green swamp, to be afterwards covered
with willows, alders, &c. Like the floating island in
Esthwaite water, which has, perhaps, disappeared
again. A similar one showed itself in Windermere
a few years ago, on two successive summers, I
think, but eventually sank, long after the word
carr was forgotten here. Along the shore of
Northumberland, I see small islands named Car
and Scar, Ox Car, Seals Car, and others, which
probably owe their name to A.-S. carr, a rock.
Perhaps some of your correspondents will tell us
their character.
I owe thanks to all who have helped to illus-
trate so obscure a1 word, and trust to hear of it
more in future. Also to MR. BLENKINSOPP,
p. 482, for his notice of ings in Lincolnshire ;
and I shall be obliged to any of your country
contributors who will give similar information,
which, in the northern counties, cannot be beyond
recovery. I have lately heard of ings of 100 acres,
near York. M.
Cumberland.
BONDMEN IN ENGLAND (4th S. xi. 297, 367, 404 ;
xii. 36, 458.) — These references show that much
attention has recently been directed to the subject
of serfdom in England. It may be of interest for
me to notice that in the grant, by the Crown, in
1564 (Pat. Eolls, 6th Eliz., Part I., m. 114), of the
manor of Penpont, co. Cornwall, to Philip Cole,
Esq., and Johanna, his wife, after conveying variou
privileges and franchises pertaining to the manor,
the Patent goes on to say : —
" Also all forfeitures, pannage, free warrens, liberties*
natives men and •women, and villans, with their
children (natives nativas ac villanos cumeorum sequelis),
also all tolls, &c."
This was not a royal manor. It had been
parcel of the possessions of the family of Carminowe
and passed with one of the co-heirs of Thomas
Carminowe (ob. 1423) to the Courteneys, and wai
forfeited to the Crown upon the attainder o:
Henry Courteney, Marquis of Exeter, in 1538-9
It was again granted by Queen Mary to Edwarc
Courteney in 1554, on his creation as Earl o
Devon, and it again reverted to the Crown oa. his
death, s.p., two years afterwards.
We have evidence of bondage continuing afte:
this date. Among the Lansdown MSS. (105, No
42) is the draft of a Commission (I think in
Burleigh's handwriting) directed to Sir Williair
Cecil, Lord Burleigh, and others, in which th
Queen, after reciting that " divers and sundry of ou
poor, faifhful, and loyal subjects being born bond in
bludde and regardant to divers our manors, &c
have made humble sute unto us to be manumisec
enfranchised, and made free with their children an<
sequells," says, " we do commit unto you full powe
and authority to accept, admytt, and" receive to b
anumysed, enfranchised, and made free such and
o many of our bondmen and bondwomen in bloud,
irith all and every of their children and sequells,
heir goods, &c., as are now appertaining or regardant
0 all or any of our manors, &c., in Cornwall, Devon,
somerset, and Gloucester, as to your discretion
hall seem meet and convenient, compounding with
hem for such reasonable fines or somes of money to
e taken and received to our use for their manu-
nission and enfranchisement as you and they can
.gree for."
Consequent upon this Commission, we find three
leeds of enfranchisement, all dated in the 19th
fear of Elizabeth, upon record in the "Crown
jands Inrolment Office," granting manumission to
1 few individuals and their families pertaining to
he Queen's Manor of Helston-in-Trigg, co. Corn-
vail, but the authority conveyed in the Commission
does not appear to have been further exercised.
JOHN MACLEAN.
Hammersmith.
SERFDOM IN SCOTLAND (4th S. xii. 207, 271,
451.) — It is thought that DR. RAMAGE'S reading of
the charter by James IV., of date 1489, looking to
ihe collocation of the words, is probably incorrect
(p. 207), in taking, as he does, bondis for bundis,
which last imports bounds, or marches (" cum
bundis [not bondis~] et pertinentiis eorundem," i. e.
with, or according to, the bounds, and pertinents
(=appurtenances) of the Place, Castle, and Mote-
hill of Tybbris, which were granted). Kennet's
GL, v. " Bunda" ; also " Abunda."
Supposing, however, DR. RAMAGE'S reading,
bondis, correct, the bondi, or bondi homines, as
distinguished from the liberi-homines, were not
actual serfs, or, as called often, "villeyns-in-gros";
they were thefirmarii, farmers, under short leases —
were those who held ad firmam, a grade of the
agricolse. So thinks Skene, Fordun, ii. 417. On
the other hand, it was the nativi, or servi, who
were the serfs, and who might be acquired, trans-
ferred, or recovered, as any chattel might. The
adscripti glebce, the "villeyns regardant," were
another section of the agricola? ; and, as to position,
were more like the bondi than the nativi; and
herein I differ somewhat from ANGLO-SCOTUS.
They were attached, or astricted, to the soil, as the
colliers and salters were, a privilege as it was con-
sidered ; and, as long as they fulfilled the contract
of location, they could not involuntarily be removed.
(DalzelPs Fragments, Preface, and Innes's Legal
Ant., p. 51.)
In the other charter, in Cambuskynneth, to
which DR. RAMAGE refers, the expression hominum
meorum— that is, the men of the granter— does not
denote absolute serfdom, for these men had animals
to be pastured, as appears from the charter, which
no serf could have; Kennet says that homines
applied to all kinds of feudatory tenants, a view
5'-» S. I. JAN. 10, 74.]
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in which Spelman concurs (GL, v. " Homines" am
" Homo"). L.
EOYAL ARMS IN CHURCHES (4th S. xii. 287
354, 437.) — These were certainly set up in the tinn
of Cranmer, for Dr. Martin thus says : " Down
with the Altar ! down with the Arms of Christ
and up with a Lion and a Dog !" (Cranmer'f
Works, ii. 217.) MACKENZIE E. C. WALCOTT.
P.S. CLOTH OP ESTATE (4th S. xii. 428) is a dai
or canopy over a royal seat.
In many of the older Protestant churches in
Dublin the royal arms were suspended in front o:
the organ-loft and facing the reading-desk. Amongst
the lower orders of Koman Catholics an opinion
formerly existed that the Protestants consequently
worshipped the royal coat of arms. H. H.
In the church of St. Thomas a Becket, the Cliffe,
Lewes, the royal arms are carved in wood, painted
and varnished. On either side, and above the
arms, are the initials E. K., and above all is the
date 1598. The arms are surrounded by a ribbon
and held by supporters. One is a lion, but I am
not sure if the other is the unicorn. At the lower
corners are gilt crowns, and the ground is orna-
mented with Tudor roses. I. C. E.
[The supporters of the royal arms, under Mary and
Elizabeth, were, Dext. a lion, Sinist. a dragon or a grey-
hound. James L, as King of Great Britain, assumed, as
supporters, D. a golden lion, for England, and S. one of
the silver unicorns of Scotland. These supporters have
continued unchanged. On the monument of Queen
Elizabeth in Westminster Abbey, the unicorn is on the
dexter side.]
HEEL-TAPS (4th S. xi. 504 ; xii. 18, 198.)—
X. X.'s derivation is set aside by this that "no
heel-taps " did not imply " convivial thunder," but
such -thorough- draining supernaculum drinking as
betokened heartiest good will. That "heel-taps" also
means a peg in th« heel of a shoe, removed when the
shoe is finished, is yet to be proved ; I cannot dis-
cover that shoemakers know anything of any such
peg, much less know it by that name. . Nor if it
be proved will it then be proved that the drinking
phrase for " not a drop to be left " is derived from
it. " Tapping" is, I find, a local, but by no means
general phrase for soleing, and, therefore, as
cobblers have said to me, "heel-taps" may be a piece
on the heel, or the iron sometimes added. The
simplest supposition, though I confess I do not
remember the word in this primary sense, seems
to be to take heel-taps as meaning that which
comes out of the tap when the cask is heel'd or
tilted, namely the dregs, lees, or leavings. Tap-
lash is also a phrase for such muddy remainders
from ''lasche, to fresche and vnsavory, vapidus
insipidus " (Prompt. Parv. ed. Way). Just, there-
fore, as we speak of draining a cup to the dregs,
or just as Taylor, the Water-Poet, says, they used
such complemental oratory as, " off with your lap,
wind up your bottom, up with your tap-lash," so
" no heel-taps " would mean, what it does mean,
leave no leavings, up with your glass till the last
drop is out. B. NICHOLSON.
TENNYSON'S NATURAL HISTORY (4th S. xii. 5,
55, 138, 177, 459.) — Most certainly the shrike will
attack the sparrow. During my sojourn at the
Cape last year, I saw a butcher-bird entice a
number of smaller birds near it by making a sort
of plaintive cry. In a few minutes some half-dozen
or more birds collected, and among them a sparrow.
Immediately they were near enough to become
easy prey, the butcher-bird flew into the midst of
them and pounced upon the sparrow, a slight
struggle followed, and away flew the victor with
his spoil. In Stanley's Familiar History of Birds,
under the heading of Shrikes (p. 161), mention is
made of Selby being "fortunate enough to see the
whole process of pinning a licdge-sparrow by one
of these butcher-birds." Willoughby states it will
" set upon and kill .... even thrushes." (See
Knight's Cydopcedia.) H. G. G.
"BLOODY" (4th S. xii. 324, 395, 438.)— This
loathsome expression occurs in a letter of Latimer,
Aug. 25, 1538, " a certain man told me that the
bloody abbot should have said of late," &c. This
seems to have been the mitred abbot of Evesham
(his mitre being distinctly mentioned). The last
abbot of Hales Owen, who was not mitred, had
surrendered on June 5, or it might have been
possible to connect it with the " Blood of Hales,"
but that relic was not examined until Oct. 24.
The brave-hearted Clement Lichfield resigned, but
would not surrender.
MACKENZIE E. C. WALCOTT.
BISHOP MOUNTAIN (4th S. xii. 247, 452.)— See
Ward's Lives of the Professors of Gresham College,
folio, 1740, p. 48. S.
" FROM GREENLAND'S ICY MOUNTAINS " (4th S.
tii. 326, 455.) — Dr. Josiah Miller, in his useful
generally accurate work, Our Hymns, their
Authors and Origin (Jackson, Walford & Hodder,
1866), says, p. 304 :—
" This hymn was written at Hodnet in 1820, to be sung
>y his, Heber's, people, with a sermon appealing to them.
>n behalf of missions. The MS. used to be in the pos-
ession of Dr. Baffles, of Liverpool."
PHILIP ACTON.
" SPURRING " (4th S. xii. 44, 295, 398.)— It is
>robable that " spur " had at one time a more
xtended range. I never heard the word in Kent,
tut Lyly, a Kentish man, in his Mother Bombie,
he scene of which is laid in Rochester, makes
Accius, a foolish lout, say, " He be so bold as spur
her, what might a body call her name "? (Act iv.
c. 2.) B. NICHOLSON. •
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[5th S. I. JAN. 10, 74.
"CALLING OUT LOUDLY FOR THE EARTH" (4th
S. xii. 285, 375.) — I have heard a similar idea ex-
pressed in Guernsey : " Les morts reclament la
terre, et c'est leur droit." The dead call out for
the earth, and it is their due. Such were the words
with which Elizabeth Savidan, the wife of a fisher-
man inhabiting the picturesque point of L'Er4e, on
the western coast of the island, prefaced the follow-
ing tale, which she related to me in her own native
dialect of Norman French : — A man who had
gone down at low water to visit his trammel nets,
found a dead body entangled in the sea- weed. It
was not that of any of his neighbours. A violent
storm had raged a day or two before, and the
pieces of wreck, which the waves had thrown up
on the beach, left no doubt that some unfortunate
vessel had struck on one of the innumerable rocks
which surround the island. The corpse, which was,
no doubt, that of a passenger on board the ship,
was handsomely dressed in a suit of velvet, richly
laced with gold. The cupidity of the fisherman
was excited, and his first thought was to search the
pockets. A purse, containing a considerable sum
in gold pieces, was found, and the fisherman, con-
tent with his morning's work, hastened home,
leaving the body to be carried away by the next
tide. Great was his astonishment and affright on
entering his cottage, at seeing the dead man seated
by the fire-side and looking sternly and reproach-
fully at him. The fisherman's wife, to whom the
phantom was not visible, perceived his trouble, and
on her pressing him to say what ailed him, he con-
fessed what he had done. She upbraided him with
his inhuman conduct, and, kneeling down with him,
prayed the Almighty to forgive him his sin. They
then hastened down to the shore, drew the corpse
to land, and buried it in a neighbouring field. On
their return home, the ghost of the drowned man
had disappeared and was never more seen.
EDGAR MACCULLOCH.
Guernsey.
An expression similar to the above is very
common in Dorsetshire. When a corpse requires
burial, I have often heard it said, " he, or she, do
crave for the earth." Another odd expression is
also used, and simply to announce that a funeral is
to take place. A messenger will say to the clergy-
man, " Please sir, Betty So-and-so do want to be
buried to-morrow." The words "to call loudly
for," or "to crave the earth," certainly form an
expressive paraphrase or comment on the passage
in our Burial Service,'" Earth to earth."
E. A. D.
THE MAGPIE (4th S. xii. 327.)— Though as free
from superstition as most people, such is the effect
of early impressions, that I seldom see a single
magpie without looking for a second. But I have
known many persons at times quite disconcerted
when meeting several flights of magpies, without
considering their number, whether odd or even.
I was once travelling outside in the days of coaching
between Newark and Lincoln, when, my neighbour
frequently muttering and swearing between his
teeth, I at last said to him, " Whatever is amiss 1 "
Why," said he, " don't you see the magpies ? we
shall buy the things dear ; D n 'em, they always
bring us bad luck." It seemed he was a dealer on
the road to a fair at Lincoln, and I said to him,
" How is it then with the farmers we see on the
road driving their cattle to the fair ; is bad luck
to you good luck to them ; or if you were a seller
instead of a buyer, how would it be?" He then
admitted there could be nothing in it, but he
evidently continued to fear a bad market for
buyers. ELLCEE.
Craven.
"YARDLEY OAK" (4th S. xii. 446, 481.)— The
most complete account of Cowper's Oak will be
found in London's Arboretum, iii., p. 1765, 1838,
at which time he had it measured. He gives the
girth at one foot above the ground as thirty feet
six inches. The stem then leant so much to the
south as almost to admit of a person walking up
with very little aid from the hands. It had three
huge branches wholly devoid of bark, and had
formerly been 'much injured by persons carrying
away small blocks or slices of the wood as relics,
or to manufacture snuff-boxes, &c.
Cowper's Oak was called Judith from an old
legend that it had been planted by the Conqueror's
niece Judith, Countess of Northumberland. She
held eighty-eight manors in Northamptonshire,
including a portion of Yardley. There is a large
engraving of it in Hayley's Coicper, vol. iii., 1806,
Supplement. The two oaks figured by Strutt, and
known as Gog and Magog, are quite distinct from
" Cowper's Oak." EDWARD SOLLY.
The title to the engraving of this oak is " Judith
or Cowper's Oak, a portrait from Nature, drawn by
Mrs. Meen, 1801, engraved by Caroline Watson,
engraver to Her Majesty, 1805."
CHARLES F. S. WARREN, M.A.
FLY-LEAF INSCRIPTIONS (4th S. xi. 24, 278, 300.)
— Perhaps the following from the fly-leaf of a,'
Latin Bible of 1567, in Bishop Cosins' Library,
may interest some readers : —
" Roland Sewell is the
trew possessor of this book."
" Gutta cavatt lapidem non vi, sed sepe cadendo
Sic homo fit sapiens non vi, sed sepe legendo.
1586."
" God preserve in health and wealth
our noble queen Elizabeth."
" Iste liber pertinet, beare it well in minde
Ad me Rolandu : Sewell, both curteous and kinde
A periculo doloris : Jesu him bringe :
Ad vitam eternam : to life euerlastinge. 1608.''
SENNACHERIB.
5th S. I. JAN. 10, 74.]
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AFFEBRIDGE (4th S. xii. 328, 375, 484.)— First,
allow me to correct MR. PASSINGHAM as regards
where the river Roding rises, — it rises fourteen
miles as the crow flies, or about nineteen miles by its
sinuosities, from Chipping Ongar, — and, secondly,
to ask MR. SOLLY whether it is not more feasible
that the river owes its name to the district through
which it runs for so many miles in the upper part
of its course, than the names of certain hamlets
to the river. I conceive, therefore, that we should
look for a derivation of the name of " Roding,"
which applies to this district, which is from Beau-
champ Roding and Berners (not Barnish) Roding
to High Roding, of some five miles in length,
elsewhere. The word is evidently Saxon, allied
to a Norman nomenclature, and probably has
reference to the original holding, or the soil. That
the conjecture referring the name of the river to
Affe, or Ifil, is an erroneous one, I do not doubt
for a moment. If the river gave the addition of
II to Ilford, whence then the Wood to Woodford,
the Staple to Stapleford, Passing to Passingford,
All to All (Old) Ford, all of which are on the same
river, and the absence of any name that might be
contorted into II or Ifil, all up or down its course,
elsewhere? W. PHILLIPS.
THE MARQUIS OP MONTROSE'S POEMS (4th S.
xii. 449, 522.) — In the Memoirs of the Marquis of
Montrose, by Mark Napier, Edinburgh, 1856, will
be found a rather interesting paper on Montrose's
poems, with illustrative notes, &c. T. G. S.
Edinburgh.
ARMS OF HUNGARY (4th S. xii. 426, 500.)—
W. M. M. is quite right in saying there is no
particular reason why Hungary should have a
triple mount in its arms ; because it has not got
one, the mount is always expressed by three curves
or almost half circles in German heraldry. It is
not so in English, French, and, I think, Italian
arms. The dexter half is barry of eight gules, and
argent, and has, as almost every coat of arms has,
no signification. NEPHRITE.
CASER WINE (4th S. xii. 190, 256, 399.)— J. T. F.
(p. 399) should not call " Terefa" meat carrion.
It means any meat, even the best, not killed by
Jewish butchers legally, and is placed in the
same category with " taraf," or " beast-prey " food.
Mohammedans in Europe always take their meat
of the Jews, never of Christians. The wine of
ordinary vineyards is called Nesech, HD3, libation
wine, and it is the Roman Catholic consecration of
the fields to the Virgin, &c., or the Pagan one to
their deities, which render it prohibitory, inde-
pendently of the treading of the grapes by the
naked feet of bacon and Ham-ophagi. This meat
question gives the Rabbis great power over the
butchers, who are now in England not allowed to
sell rump-steaks, hind-quarters of mutton, &c.
S. M. DRACH.
NOTES ON BOOKS, ETC.
The Disciples. A New Poem. By Harriet Eleanor
Hamilton King. (H. S. King & Co.)
THE anonymous and sweet singer of Aspromonte has re-
vealed her name, and has taken a still higher flight than
that of her last flash of inspired song. It is not too much
to say that as the lark increases in sweetness and power
and melody as he rises nearer to Heaven's gates, so, in
this new poem, The Disciples, bolder in attempt and
loftier in object, the poet shows increase of strength and
of sweetness ; and, as in the case of all true Children of
Song, the greatest power is the result of the very simplest
of means. Indeed, the beauty and force of simplicity
have been rarely illustrated more exquisitely than in
The Disciples. Mazzini has found a minstrel to sing his
praises with delicacy and earnestness. They who may
question the verdict will not doubt the fervour and the
sincerity with which it is delivered. There is equal
depth of feeling, with equal grace and warmth, in the
narratives of the sufferings of Jacopo Ruffini, of the
tragedy of Ugo Bassi (the principal poem in the volume,
or, rather, the principal portion of a volume which is one
sustained poem throughout), and, in the final songs, so
melancholy, yet so full of melody, " Agesilao Milano " and
" Baron Giovanni Nicotora." The limits of " N. & Q."
hardly admit of affording examples, but we submit the
following, being brief and to the purpose : —
" Italia ! when thy name was but a name,
When to desire thee was a vain desire,
When to achieve thee was impossible,
When to love thee was madness, when to live
For thee was the extravagance of fools,
When to die for thee was to fling away
Life for a shadow, — in those dark days
Were some who never swerved, who lived and strove
And suffered for thee, and attained their end,
And most of these have died that thou mayst live,
And he is dead now who was first of them."
"We suffer. Why we suffer, — that is hid
With God's foreknowledge in the clouds of Heaven.
The first book written sends that human cry
Out of the clear Chaldean pasture lands
Down forty centuries ; and no answer yet
Is found, nor will be found, while yet we live
In limitations of Humanity."
The Holy Bible, according to the Authorized Version,
A.D. loll. With an Explanatory and Critical Com-
mentary, and a Revision of the Translation by Bishops
and other Clergy of the Anglican Church. Edited
by F. C. Cook, Canon of Exeter. Vol. IV. Job,
Psalms, Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, the Song of Solomon.
(Murray.)
THIS volume, fourth of a great series, is also complete in
itself. The Introductions to each book are distinguished
for their simplicity, their learning, and their liberal
feeling. Of the Song of Solomon, the editor says, " It
may be said to be the enigma of the Old Testament, as
the Apocalypse is of the New. No other book of Scripture
bears even a remote resemblance to it, and none (the-
Apocalypse not excepted) has so grievously suffered from
the caprice and prejudice of innumerable commentators."
A Dictionary of A rtists of the English School : Painters,
Sculptors, Architects, Engravers, and Ornamentalists.
With Notices of their Lives and Works. By Samuel
Redgrave, (Longmans.)
MR. S. REDGRAVE has supplied a want that has long been
felt ; no man could be better qualified for the work, and
none, perhaps, has had better opportunities, or has
known better how to use them. The volume contains
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[5tu S. I. JAK. 10, 74.
nearly 500 pages, double columns, clearly printed, with
just enough said of every person named. How much can
be said within a limited space by one who can keep
within his subject is well illustrated in Mr. Redgrave1!
account of George Morland. It is a touching littli
history, leaving the reader in full possession of wha
Morland was, both as artist and as man. The allegec
portraits of the two beautiful Miss Gunnings, now a1
Lord Mansfield's, are believed to be portraits of Mor
land's two sisters.
THE Antiguary is incorporated in Long Ago, whicl:
is now edited by the proprietor, Mr. John Pigot, the olc
and valued correspondent of " N. & Q."
BOOKS AND ODD VOLUMES.
•WANTED TO PURCHASE.
Particulars of Price, &c., of the following books to be sent direct to
the gentlemen by -whom they are required, whose names and addresses
are given for that purpose:—
LIST OF OFFICERS claiming to the Sixty Thousand Pounds granted bj
Hie Sacred Mn.iesty for the Kelicf of His truly Loyal and Indigent
Party. 4to., 1663.
Wanted by Edward Peacock, Eiq., Bottesford Manor, Brigg.
ENGLISH, ILLUMINATED, AND EARLY MSS.
ASTRONOMICAL REGISTER. Vols. I. and VI.
EAKLY ETCHINGS AND ENGRAVINGS.
Wanted by the Rev. J. C. JacJczon, 1:5, Manor Terrace, Amhurst Road,
Hackney, K.
to
Our most valued correspondent W. M. (Edinburgh)
has forwarded to us an instance of Parallel Passages, in
which we fail to see the exact parallel; but, at his re-
quest, we insert it : —
" Go fetch to me a pint o' wine,
And fill it in a silver tassie,
That I may drink before I go,
A service to my bonie lassie.
The boat rocks at the Pier o' Leith,
Fu' loud the wind blaws frae the Ferry ;
The ship rides by the Berwick- Law,
And I maun leave my bonie Mary. "
Burns's (save first four lines) My Bonie Mary.
" My boat is on the shore,
And my bark is on the sea ;
But, before I go, Tom Moore,
Here 's a double health to thee ! "
Byron, To Thomas Moore.
W. M. (Edinburgh) adds : — " It requires to be looked at
with a little care before the parallel is seen. I don't
count much on the drinking part of it, but I think these
are fine parallels : —
' The boat rocks at the Pier o' L'eith.'
' My boat is on the shore.'
' The ship rides by the Berwick-Law.
' And my bark is on the sea.'
none the worse that they are not verbal."
E. A. H. L. writes :— " ' The Three Kings.' There is
an old inn in my parish which formerly bore the sign of
' The Three Kings.' It was subsequently called the
'Hare and Hounds,' having been taken by an ex-hunts-
man of a pack of harriers. I am desirous of reviving the
ancient name, and replacing the present sign by a
painting of the ' Three Kings.' Can any of your readers
refer me to a good example of a representation of the
Magi suitable to an inn sign 1 I ain ignorant of the
exact connexion of the Magi with inns and hospitality
and drinking customs ; but in Norway, around the metal
rims of ancient drinking horns, their names — Gaspar,
Melchior, and Balthazar— often occur." The Three
Kings used to be thus represented : — Melchior, old and
bearded ; Gaspar (or Jasper), a beardless youth ; and
Balthazar as a Moor, with a thick beard.
LAUKA. — The French lover who would rather die than
please his mistress was, as far as we know, no living
person. Rotrou, in his tragedy Venceslas, makes
Ladislas declare something to the above purpose, when
speaking to Cassandre, Act ii. so. 2 : —
" Car enfin si Ton peche, adorant vos appas,
Et si Ton ne vous plait qu'en ne vous aimantpas,
Cette offense est un mal que je veux toujours faire,
Et je consens plutot a mourir qu'a vous plaire,"
H. S. G., the writer of a note on Thomas Best, at 4th
S. xii. 502 (Dec. 20, 1873), is begged to put himself into
communication with Thomas Baker, Esq., 28, Jackson's
Row, Manchester, who is related to the Bests, and
desirous of gaining further particulars of the family.
M. M. (Wray).— See Dr. Watts's—
" Lord, how delightful 'tis to see
A whole assembly worship Thee " ;
— in which are the lines —
" I have been there and still will go,
'Tis like a little Heav'n below."
H. B. P. will find in Sir W. Jones's Ode in Imitation of
Alccms the passage beginning with —
" What constitutes a state ?
Not high-raised battlement nor laboured mound.
Thick wall or moated gate."
J. W. E. — We regret that we have been unable to
discover the name of the author of the song, We meet
'neath the sounding rafter.
J. P. — We may form some idea of what may be in the
moon, but we can form none at all of the whereabouts of
MSS. sent to any of our contemporaries.
R. J. — Received.
N. J. C.— Vide " Dudgeon" in Dr. Latham's edition of
Johnson's Dictionary.
NEPHRITE. — Martha and Margaret are both mentioned
in the article referred to.
E. F. SMITH (New York). — "Lost and Found" is in
The Romance of the Scarlet Leaf, and other Poems, by
Hamilton Aide, London, Moxon.
J. C. — The Epitaph on Dr. Maginn will be found in
our 2nd S. x. 43, and also in Pettigrew's Chronicles of the
Tombs (Bohn).
A.S. A. (Richmond). — You have not forwarded your •
name and address, as requested.
C. R. M.— Forwarded to Mr. Thorns.
CIYILIS. — Please send the papers referred to. Name
and address should always accompany communications.
NOTICE.
Editorial Communications..should be addressed to " The
!ditor " — Advertisements and Business Letters to " The
'ublisher "—at the Office, 20, Wellington Street, Strand,
ondon, W.C.
We beg leave to state that we decline to return com-
munications which, for any reason, we do not print; and
o this rule we can make no exception.
To all communications should be affixed the name and
iddress of the sender, not necessarily for publication, but
is a guarantee of good faith.
5th S. I. JAN. 17, 74.]
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LONDON, SATURDAY, JANUARY 17, 1874.
CONTENTS.— NO 3.
NOTES :— Old Northern English MS. Psalter, 41— A New Old
Dramatist : Thomas Decker, 42 — Folk-Lore, 44— William
Roy— Boleyn Pedigree— William de Fournyuall — " You may
put it in your eye and see none the worse for it," 45 — Epitaph
'on a Tombstone at , near Paris — The Campbells and
Grants — Bavin — The Kilkenny Cats— Elective and Deposing
Power of Parliament, 46.
QUERIES: -George III. and the Pig— Unlawful Games of
the Middle Ages — Nathan Brook's "Complete List,
Military," London, 1684— Henry Medwall— Denham, Notts
— Somersetshire Legends -and Superstitions — Jeremiah
Saville— The Waterloo and Peninsular Medals— Gen. Thos.
Harrison, 47 — Grahame, Viscount Dundee— Mrs. Siddons as
a Sculptor— Authors Wanted — " Arcandam " — The Greek
Swallow Song — Batenham's "Etchings of Public Buildings
in Chester"— Heraldic— New- Moon Superstitions — Smith:
Pigot : Bovey, 48— Various Queries — Nicholas Felton : Robert
Kemp— Wilson Arms— Simpson Arms— Moses of Chorene,
49— Anonymous Books— King at Arms— Captain Grant and
Sir William Grant — The Centenary Club— Geffroy de
Chauceroie, 50.
REPLIES :— Bere Regis Church, 50— The Grim Feature, 52—
" Oil of Brick " —"Nor " for " Than," 53— Charter of Edward
the Confessor — ' ' Centaury " — Herefordshire Christmas —
Charms— An Austrian Army— The Cattle and the Weather-
Chap- Books : " Wise Willie and Witty Eppy," 54— Libere-
tenentes— Portraits of Ur. Johnson— Lord Ugonier — Ring
Motto — Peck's Complete Catalogue — "Embossed," 55—
"Spurring" — Surname "Barnes"— Italian Works of Art at
Paris in 1815— Mary, daughter of William de Ros— " Lines
addressed to Mr. Hobhouse," 56— " Prayer moves," <fcc. — The
Acacia — Funeral Garlands— Scottish Titles — Rise in the
Value of Property in Scotland, 57 — Penance in the Church
of England — Sir Thomas Puleston, Lord Mayor of London —
Innocents' Day — A Mnemonic Calendar for 1874 — Stern :
Firm— Peter Pindar— "Talented"— Altars in the Middle
Ages— The Best Cast, 68.
Notes on Books, &c.
OLD NORTHERN ENGLISH MS. PSALTER.
I have lately had the good fortune to discover,
in the library of St. Nicholas's Church, Newcastle-
on-Tyne, in several portions, tumbling about in a
drawer among old magazines and Newcastle dust,
the greater part of a very interesting MS. Psalter
with Canticles. It is written on 208 folio pages of
vellum, size ll£ inches by 8| inches. There have
beenabout 100 pages more, which could not be found.
The missing portions included Psalms i. — xxxix. 1 ;
xxxix. 17 — xl. 9; xlvi. 5 — xlvii. 11; xlviii. 11 —
xlix. 4; Ixxxiv. 13 — Ixxxvii. 10; cxviii. 28— 141 ;
cxxxv. 12 — cxxxviii. 12; Canticum Anna, 2 — end;
Canticum Moysi (Cantemus), 1—12. The Psalms
are here, as in the original, numbered according to
the Vulgate. The Bemdicite, Te Deum, Quicunque,
and Nunc dimittis, seeni never to have been in-
cluded, but there have been the six ferial canticles
from the Old Testament, together with Magnificat
find Benedictus. The last five pages are in an
inferior hand, and contain the Benedictus. The
membranes are arranged in fasciculi of six sheets
(twelve leaves or twenty-four pages).
As may be supposed from what has been said,
the folia were, when found, in a much-begrimed,
smoke-dried, and crumpled condition ; some, too,
were greatly injured by wet. After shaking them
well, and brushing them with a soft hat-brush, I
blackened six washpots full of water in lightly
sponging them over. Finding that the colour of
the capital letters, &c., was very fas.t on, I ventured
on a tentative process of straightening with one of
the worst of the leaves, and as this answered
admirably, I pursued it with all the rest, and with
such success that I will now endeavour myself to
describe it for the benefit of others. Taking a
single skin of two leaves, I (a) immersed it in a
large, flat dish of cold spring water for two or three
minutes, gently brushing oft' any dirt that seemed
loose; (6) hung it on a towel-horse to drain for
about the same time ; (c) laid it carefully out be-
tween two layers of thick white blotting-paper, and
these between two of my grandfather's copper
plates ; (d) placed the yet wet and supple, but not
now dripping, membrane between fresh blotting-
paper in a napkin-press ; (e) changed the blotting-
paper every five minutes or so, finishing off with
strong cartridge-paper. As the later stages of the
operation were going on with some membranes, the
earlier steps were beginning with others, fresh
relays of dry paper being constantly supplied from
before the fire: and now I have the great satisfaction
of seeing all the 104 folia as smooth and straight
as when they were first written on, if not more so. I
may add, that I tried a process of stretching on a
board, which I had seen recommended, but it did
not answer in the least, the skin contracting into
most unsatisfactory-looking undulations. The pro-
cess of immersion should be used with great caution
where colour has been applied. In this case, how-
ever, there was no running worth mentioning, only
a very little here and there where the scribe had
used weaker size, and now and then the clean
impression on the blotting-paper of a very slight
film off the soiled surface, that which remained
being quite uninjured, and as brilliant as when it
left the limner's hand.
The outside of the last leaf, after a great deal of
soot and dirt had been removed, showed some traces
of writing in a later hand. The application of
sulphide of ammonium, which is much better than
galls, brought this out so as to be legible. It is,
-"October the 20th, 1660. The gift of Doctor
Thomas Burwell, Chancellor of this Diocesse."
Chancellor Bur well was a well-known man in his
day, and is frequently mentioned in the corre-
spondence of Bp. Cosin. It is now time to describe
more particularly the general contents of the MS.
It is written in double columns, each Psalm
beginning with a large blue capital letter, with very
elegant ornamentation in vermilion. This begins
a single verse from the Vulgate (with slight verbal
differences here and there) in distinctly written
black letter. Then a red paragraph-mark, and a
literal translation of the Latin into English. Then
a blue paragraph-mark, and a paraphrase or com-
ment on the verse. The Latin verses begin with
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5th S. I. JAN. 17, 74.
small red and blue capitals alternately, and the red
and blue paragraph-marks are arranged in the same
way. The English portions are written smaller
than the Latin, and there are very few breaks at
the end of lines. Where any do occur, they are
filled up by some simple ornament in red.
The 51st Psalm (Engl. 52nd) begins thus :—
" Quid gloriaris in malicia ; qui potens est in iquitate
(sic). II Whar' tille ioyes you in malice ; yat myghty is
in wickednes. *f\ In yis spaltrie . ye prophete spekis
a gaynes alle ye kynde of ille men & sais . you yat is
myghty in wickednes yat leste is . whar till ioyes yu in
malice . as wha say . in god is fa (?) to yoie . yat is grete
what yis wickednes is he opens. Tota die iniusticiam
cogitauit lingua tua ; sicut nonacula acuta fecisti dolum.
^[ Alle day vnrigthwisenes thoght yi tunge ; as jalouse
scharp yu did treso' U he sais yat ye thoght of ye ille
man is in his tunge . for he vmthinkis hym noght as he
spek what he suld spek . as scharp rasour' yat hets newyng
of face and makes ye blode to folowe . you did treson
hetand fair hede . and bringand tille synne and pyne."
The 94th Psalm (Engl. 95th) is given as in the
Vulgate, not as in the Breviary, where of this Psalm
alone, as liturgists are aware, a different version is
given. The sixth verse is curious : —
" Venite adoremus et procidamus et ploremus ante
dominum q! fecit nos quia ip'e est d'n's deus n'r. TJ Comes
loute we and falle we . and greete byfore cure lard yat
made vs. If Comes in charyte . loute we in sothfastnes .
falle we yat is meke we vs tille him . and greete we for
cure synnes . byfore oure lard . witand yat ye flaume of
oure synne yat brennes i' oure conscience is slokend with
teres."
Here is a well-known fact in mediteval natural
history brought to bear on Ps. cii. 5 (Engl. ciii.)
" Qui replet in bonis desiderium tuu . renouabitur ut
aquile iuuentas tua. lj ye whilke fulfilles in godis yi
yernyng . newed salle be of harne yi youthede Tf After
coroune is nojt bot fulfilling of yi desire in endless ioye .
y* you yernys . and yat salle be when yi youthede is
newed as of ye harne; ye harne when he is greued with
grete eld . his neb waxes so gretely . yat he may noght
open his mouthe and take mete . bot yan he smytis his
neb tille ye stane and has away ye slogh . and yan he gas
tille mete . and bycomes yong agayne ; so criste dos away
fra vs our eld of synne and mortalite y* lettis to ete oure
bred in heuen ; and newys vs in hym."
Other specimens, taken almost at random, are : —
"And it salle paye tille god; abouen ye newe calfe
forthbringand homes and nayles."
" As in wod of trees . with brade axes yai schare doun
ye yatis of it ; in ye same brade axe . and twybill yai kest
it doue"
' He yat lufes god he lufes maues saule."
' Alle menne aghe to serue tille him,"
' Halghed in bapteme."
' Gifand siker confort."
' Myne eghen fayled."
'Fra wham; whilk ; rightwisenes ; swhilk; sowkand;
liggand; brennand; bryghthede; pouste (potestasj."
In these extracts I have copied the th as y,
because in the MS. it is formed exactly in the same
way, but the true y is often dotted..
I find that this Psalter is the same as one which
was in the possession of the learned Methodist,
Dr. Adam Clarke, and which is frequently referred
to in his well-known Commentary on the Bible.
His copy was imperfect, beginning at Ps. vii. 17,
and wanting from Ps. cxix. Part 21, to end of
Ps. cxli. He does not mention whether it con-
tained any of the Canticles. The Doctor remarks : —
" That the writer was not merely a commentator^ but
a truly religious man, who was well acquainted with the
travail of the soul, and that faith in the Lord Jesus
Christ which brings peace to the troubled heart, is
manifested from various portions of his comment
The language of true Christian experience has been the
same in all times and nations." — Com, on Ps. xiii.
For other references, and large quotations, see
especially his " Introduction to the Book of Psalms"
at the end : Psalms viii., xvi., and cxiv.
I should be glad to know where Dr. Clarke's
copy now is, whether other copies be known to
exist, and if so, where ; also whether anything be
known as to its authorship. J. T. F.
Hatfield Hall, Durham.
A NEW OLD DRAMATIST : THOMAS DECKER.*
The tendency of the present spirit of literary
research is, in too many cases, rather to exhibit a
contribution to a given subject than to treat that
subject in the gross, and produce a volume accept-
able, at all events, for its completion and maturity.
In the present days of class literature every de-
partment of letters grows more sub-divided, until
the literature of genius is in danger of being con-
sumed away by reason of its painful sub-divisions.
Though both before and since the days of Euclid
the " whole " has been esteemed as greater than
its component " part," it has been reserved for our
own time to witness an unequal struggle between
body and members ; every particle of the intel-
lectual system — and it is true Jilso of the physical
—being bent on asserting a distinctive superiority.
With our present zeal for inquiry that seems so
determined, and a facility for analysis that is
inexhaustive, it is much to be feared with regard
to imaginative literature, that whatever is gained
in truth and descriptive integrity may at the same
time be lost in creative excellence and in grace of
harmony.
Some such reflections as these, we are bold to
conjecture, must occur to every student of letters,
as he reads into the pregnant pages of Thomas
Decker. To so minute an extent (if we may excuse
the blunder) has literary investigation been con-
ducted that it is a matter of much congratulation
that, after a lapse of more than two centuries, we
are enabled, for the first time, to place upon our
book- shelves the mature writings of one of the
most vigorous of Elizabethan dramatists. To none,
indeed, does the privilege seem more apparent than
to those who, like ourselves, are surfeited from
year to year with heaps of this literary debris ; not
* The Dramatic Works of Thomas Decker, now firs
Collected. London, John Pearson, 1873.
5th S. I. JAN. 17, 74.]
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" stones which the builders rejected," indeed, but
rather, let us say, piles of solid masonry, only
wanting that wondrous keystone to complete the
poet's arch —
" wherethrough
Gleams that untravelled world, whose margin fades
For ever and for ever as I move."
The further we burrow under Parnassus Mount
ihe more do we deny ourselves the sun-shafts of
Apollo. It is the more needful we should be
acquainted with the mastery of the old writers in
a period which, though not, as they would have it —
" An age of scum spooned off the richer past,
An age of patches for old gaberdines,"
is, at least, an age of stone-breaking. Walpole
and Oldys, Brydges, Hazlewood, and the earlier
antiquaries, have been justly censured for giving
us only what was delightful in literary antiquities.
They trimmed away whatever was tasteless or
noisome in the melange, and presented us to a right
royal feast — " the brains of singing-birds, the roe
of mullets, the sunny halves of peaches." The
later among the restorers of departed knowledge
cannot be considered to err in their attachment to
a conservative principle in. literature. But the
•editors of the Camden and other kindred societies
— to whom be all honour — are diverging yearly
from the spirit of their "nourrice of antiquity."
They give us figures and dates when we would ask
for thought and image. And before glancing at
the pages of the volume before us, we are tempted
to exclaim, with one whose misfortune it was that
he was no antiquary — "A fig for your dates, as the
Syracusan said to the Athenian merchant ! "
Thomas Decker —as agrees his latest editor — was
one of those unhappy poets to whom the muse
has proved a cruel step-mother. He seems to have
been the literary Captain Shandon of his day— a
Doctor Maginn placed uncomfortably in the seven-
teenth century. To friends and publishers he was
tribulation exceedingly ; his begging letters alone,
could they be collected, might form no mean part
of his contributions to literature. Posterity, how-
ever, has been the gainer by his wandering excesses,
no man knowing so well as he to paint the interior
of a debtor's prison.
After two and a half centuries of neglect the
dramatic writings of this fine writer have been
collected and made public. But unhappily the
nineteen pieces which Mr. Pearson presents us in
his four handsome volumes, do not comprise all the
writings for the stage which proceeded from Decker
during a lifetime of remarkable activity. Two
reasons occur to us as accounting for the havoc
which an earlier posterity has made with his pro-
ductions. From a contemporary ballad we learn
he was one of the dramatic authors who suffered
through the violence of a Shrove-Tuesday mob.
The London apprentices from time immemorial
had claimed for themselves the privilege of break-
ing up the infamous haunts that existed in the old
suburbs, and Shrove-Tuesday was the one day
upon which custom permitted them to exercise
their prerogative. No sooner had light dawned
on the morning of March the 4th, 1617, than the
flat-capped citizens of Fleet Street commenced
their customary attack. In those ripening days of
Puritanism, animosity had already spread against
the play-writers as well as against all manner of
performers in masques and pageants. Not only
were the unclean temples of Southwark and Turn-
mill Street subjected to popular indignation ; but
even the Drury Lane playhouse was made a centre
of riot and destruction. Every article of stage
requirement was destroyed or plundered, and
amongst the wreck were the play-books of Thomas
Decker. Again, MS. Lansdowne, 807, is a folio
volume formerly the property of John Warburton,
Esq., and Somerset Herald. On the back of the
first leaf is entered a catalogue of old plays, being
a collection made by Mr. Warburton, but through
the ignorance of his man-servant unfortunately
destroyed. In this way are supposed to have
perished some of the best of the plays of Decker.
The Shoemaker's Holiday, the earliest of his
comedies, is remarkable both for the excellent
character of Simon Eyre and for two of the sweetest
ballads we remember to have seen in the minor
dramatists. Also, as the editor justly observes of
it, it possesses considerable interest as a picture of
English manners. Of the love story, so often fatal
to the interest both of novels and comedies, we can
only say that to this one it gives consistency and
strength. There is something quaintly pleasing
in the solicitude of the heroine and the lavishness
of her proffered bribe : —
" Get thee to London, and learn perfectly
Whether my Lacy go to France, or no ;
Do this, and I will give thee for thy paines
My camhricke apron, and my romish gloves,
My purple stockings, and a stomacher ;
Say, wilt thou do this, Sibil, for my sake 1 "
In the comedy of Old Fortunatus, which Decker
next set himself to compose, we fancy we discover
a new character for the first time paraded on the
Elizabethan stage. The stage parson has already
been made the subject of controversy in " N. & Q.,"
as .the stage doctor has once or twice provoked the
wrath of the Lancet. So in Old Fortimatus we
see "the first appearance on any stage" of the
stage Irishman. He is then, as always, an itinerant
fruitseller, and complains of wearing out his boots
in going to the Holy Land for Damascus pippins.
It is much to be regretted that the surpassing
masterpiece of Decker has a title which it is im-
possible for us in this place to set down.
" Truth is a naked lady," writes a later and not
more scrupulous dramatist, and in this respect, if
it be admitted in no other, Decker's plays may be
held to resemble Truth. But in the pitiless
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[5th S. I. JAN. 17, '74.
obscenity of his title-pages he is not overcome by
any other dramatist we can remember. Still, even
with this hideous deformity upon it, which has
served to make a fine play (" except to keep the
wind-side of it "), a matter of no concern to politer
people, appreciative critics have been unanimous
in awarding to Decker's best comedy a foremost
position in the literature of the stage. It is seldom
that an early writer has so ably succeeded in
investing the most sordid reality with so bright a
halo of idealism. Decker belongs to a school
which in later times has held a Balzac and a
Dickens, but he portrays his characters in less
anatomical outlines, and paints their feelings with
a more loving hand. Witness the scene in which
Orlando — "old mad Orlando" — is deceived into
believing his daughter's death : —
" Hip. Her name, I think, was Bellafront : she's dead
"Orl. Ha! dead]
" Hip. Yes, what of her was left, not worth the keeping,
Even in my sight was throwne into a grave.
" Orl. Dead ! my last and best, peace goe with her.
I see death's a good trencherman, he can eat coarse
homely meat, as well as the daintiest .... Is she dead ?
" Hip. Shee's turned to earth.
" Orl. Wod she were turn'd to heaven ; Umh, is she
dead? I am glad the world has lost one of his idols.
In her grave sleepe all my shame, and all her
owne ; and all my sorrowes, and all her sinnes."
JULIAN SHARMAN.
FOLK-LORE.
OBSERVANCES WITH REGARD TO THE MOON. —
The following extract from the Cornish Telegraph
will be interesting to many lovers of folk-lore : —
" There are many ancient beliefs and practices with
respect to the moon still lingering in West Cornwall, which
seem to be almost forgotten elsewhere. The following
are a few examples amongst many : —
" Herbs for drying, to be used in fomentation, or for
other medicinal purposes, are gathered at the full of the
moon ; when winter's fruit should also be picked and
stored, in order that it may retain its plumpness. Elderly
persons prefer to sow their garden seeds and others during
the moon's first quarter, from the idea that they will
then germinate quicker and grow stronger than on the
decrease.
" Timber should be felled on the ' bating ' of the moon,
because the 'sap is then down/ and the wood will be
more durable.
" When the old iron ' chills ' (lamps) were in general
use, rushes, for making ' porvans ' (wicks), were cut at the
full moon, because it was believed that they were then
fuller of pith and less liable to shrink than if cut at other
times.
" Old gentlemen who wore their hair long behind, or
in 'pigtails or queues,' and other persons as well, of that
day, were very particular about having their heads
trimmed at the time of full moon that their hair might
grow the more luxuriantly.
" The first money taken on market-day is still frequently
spit on, for good luck ; and if silver, kept for luck-money,
to be shown to the next new moon, and turned three
times towards the person who shows it. Three wishes
were made whilst showing the money, which the wisher
turned three times from the moon towards himself.
" It is considered unlucky to get the first sight of a new
moon through glass, and many persons go out of doors
purposely to. see her for the first time, when they hold
towards her a piece of silver to ensure their success whilst
that moon lasts. Those who offer this kind of adoration
to Luna «are mostly provided with a crooked sixpence,
which they call a pocket-piece, and wear as a means to
retain good luck. This observance of showing money to-
the new moon is, probably, a vestige of an ancient rite
connected with the worship of Luna or Astarte.
" Another belief, which still holds good, is that when
a child is born in the interval between an old moon and
the first appearance of a new one, it will never live to
attain to puberty. A recent observation confirms this as
well to animals as children. Hence the saying of ' no
moon no man.' Other popular notions, among old folks,
are that when a boy is born on the waning moon, the
next birth will be a girl, and vice versd ; they also say
that when a birth takes place on the 'growing of the
moon ' the next child will be of the same sex. Many of
these fancies, however, may be astrological notions,
handed down from ancient times and common to many
places. Here much of such lore has been learnt from
Sibley's Treatise on the Occult Sciences, which is the
oracle of our western astrologers ; though they seldom let
their study of that and similar works be known for fear
of the ridicule with which it is now the fashion to regard
such pursuits. W. B."
INNOCENTS' DAY — MUFFLED PEAL (5th S. i. 8.)
— A muffled peal is still always rung on the bells
of our parish church (Weobley, co. Hereford) on
Childermas or Innocents' Day. This custom was
observed also in the adjoining parish of Dilwyn,
and was only discontinued about five years ago-
because the mufflers, or " muffs," as the ringers call
them, were worn out. H. B. PURTON.
Weobley.
The following] is an extract from a lady's letter,
under date January 1, 1874: —
"WINCHESTER. — We began 1874 in a very romantic
manner, that of walking about the Close by moonlight,
and listening to the muffled peals."
G. W. S. P.
EAILWAYS AND FOLK-LORE. — The Great Indian
Peninsula Eailway, in their last Eeport, state that
the falling off in the numbers and revenue of pas-
sengers in 1873 has been very large. " The current
year is an unpropitious one in the Hindoo calendar,
and the inducements to travel are below the average,
No Hindoo marriages among the better classes are
celebrated this year." HYDE CLARKE.
PROPERTIES OF FOUNTAINS. — Old writers on
natural history mention certain properties in
fountains. I would ask any of your correspondents
to inform me if these can be traced or noticed in-
modern times. Ortelius, in his Theatrum Mundi,
mentions a fountain in Ireland " whose water
killeth all those beasts that drink thereof, but not
the people, although they use it ordinarily." Pliny
mentions a fountain in Sclavonia which is extremely
cold ; yet if a man cast his cloth cloak upon it it
is incontinently set on fire (it is not very clear
I. JAN. 17, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
45
whether it is the cloak or the fountain that is to b
understood). Do any traces of this fountain exist
Propertius mentions the fountain Clitumnus, in
Italy, " which maketh oxen that drink of it white
and Pliny, certain streams in Bwotia, one of whicl
turneth sheep black, the other white. If thes
peculiarities existed in the days of Propertiu
and Pliny, do they now exist ; or are the localitie
known ? There is also a fountain mentioned bj
Pliny, on the shores of the Red Sea, which dyed the
fleece of sheep drinking therefrom scarlet or crim
son. Is the site now known? There are mani
other fountains with peculiar qualities mentionec
by old writers, such as the fount immortalized bj
Moore, which played of old in Ammon's shade
cold in day-time, warm at night, — fountain
sweet at noon, bitter at night, &c., which havi
been more or less made use of by poets. DC
they still exist is a matter-of-fact question; that o
Ammon's shade is, I believe, as doubtful as th<
statue of the singing Mernnon. H. HALL.
Lavender Hill.
WILLIAM ROY.— Have the kindness to publish
the following lines, which will interest English
readers : —
William Roy, with whose aid the Protestant
martyr, Will. Tyndale, published the first edition
of his English New Testament, is well known
in English literature through his sharp satirical
poem against Cardinal Wolsey. He was also the
translator of a German, not Latin, dialogue, as has
been believed till now, known under the title,
fiialogus inter patrem Christianum et filium contu-
macem. This translation was thought to be lost.
Only some passages in the works of Will. Tyndale,
Sir Thorn. More, and the mention of it in the lists of
books prohibited by the Archbishop of Canterbury
in the years 1527-32, testified of its existence. The
translation was printed at Strasburg in 1527; but
the agents of Henry VIII. and of Cardinal Wolsey
were so busy to buy up and to destroy the whole
edition, that even in the greatest libraries of Eng-
land not a single copy of it is to be found. Some
time ago a complete copy was discovered in the
I. and R. Library of the Court at Vienna, where
it was bound together with the also extremely rare
first edition of the satirical poem of Roy against
Wolsey, Rede me and be nott wrothe(see the reprint
by Arber, Lond., 1871). Mr. Adolf Wolf, keeper
of this library, will shortly publish an accurate
edition of this old book, which is extremely interest-
ing in connexion with the history of the first
Protestant commotions in England. A. WOLF.
Vienna.
BOLEYN PEDIGREE. — In connexion with the
Boleyn family mentioned at page 2 of " N. & Q."
for January 3, 1874, I beg to submit the follow-
ing inscription to your readers : —
" Here under leys
Elizabeth and Mary Bullyn
daughters of
Thomas Bullyn son of George Bullyn
the son of
George Bullyn Vicount Rochford son of Sr Thomas
Bullyn
Erie of Ormond and Willsheere."
In the year 1802, while some labourers were
quarrying stones close to the old castle of Clonoony,
in the King's County, they discovered a cave, and
in the cave, at a depth of some eleven feet from
the surface, concealed under a heap of stones, they
found a slab stone, eight feet long, four wide, and
one thick, covering a coffin cut in the solid rock,
which contained the bones of two bodies, and at
the extreme lower end of the flag-stone the inscrip-
tion was cut in alto-relievo.
Some years since there were the portraits of two
ladies in Birr Castle, the seat of the Earl of Rosse,
with the following inscriptions — "Anno gotatis 17 "
and " Anno tetatis 18." One of the portraits had a
marigold (the symbol for the name of Mary), and
the other portrait had a jewel dependent from the
neck bearing the letter E.
The Boleyns were connected through the family
of Clere with the Rosses.
WM. JACKSON PIGOTT.
Dundrum, co. Down.
WILLIAM DE FOURNYUALL. — I find a namesake,
with an archer and four horses, among the fighting
men who went with Edward III. (and Chaucer) to
invade France in 1359-60. In the list of payments
for this war, in the Wardrobe Book of Edw. III.,
kept by Sir William de Farle, from Nov. 3, 1359,
to Nov. 7, 1360, is entered on leaf 101, back —
"WilhWmo Fowrnyuall pro consimilibus vadiis suis
guerre, ad iiijd. ob. & vnius a&gittarii ad vjd. per diem,
a xxix die augusti, vsque xxix diem Septembri, vtroque
die computato, per xxxij dies, xxviijs. eidem, pro con-
similibus vadm suis ad xijd. & j. sagittaro ad vjd. per
diem, ab ultimo die Septembris vsqwe vltimum diem
Maij, vtroqwe die computato, per ccxlv dies, xviij li. vijs.
vjd. eidem, pro repassagio quatuor equorwm suorwwi de
Cales, vt supra xijs. iiijd."
I hope my said namesake knew Chaucer, and
might alongside him. F. J. FURNIVALL.
" YOU MAY PUT IT IN YOUR EYE AND SEE NONE
THE WORSE FOR IT." — I have been rather amused
at finding this colloquialism to express nonentity,
tvhich I had conceived to be of purely English
origin, in a letter of the grave and witty Erasmus,
le is descanting on the gifts he has received from
undry eminent personages to whom he had dedi-
:ated his various works, and comes to a certain
Cardinal, by whom he states himself to have been
reated in a very ungenerous fashion : —
" Episcopo Lepdiensi nunc Cardinali, cui inscripsimus
Ipistolas ad Corinthios, cui libellum inauratum niisimus,
ui donavimus duo volumina Novi Testament! in mem-
ranis non ineleganter adornata neque pretii mediocris
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5th S. I. JAN. 17, 74.
ut libenter debemus pro splendidis promissis, quae non
semel obtulit: ita non est, quod illi pro donate te-
runcio gratias agamus. Tantum donavit, quantum si
*incidat in oculum quamms tenerum, ni/iii tormenti sit
allaturam : id ipse non inftcialitur."*
H. A. KENNEDY.
Waterloo Lodge, Reading.
EPITAPH ON A TOMBSTONE AT - — , NEAR
PARIS : —
"Here lie
"Two grandmothers, with their two granddaughters —
Two husbands, with their two wives —
Two fathers, with their two daughters —
Two mothers, with their two sons —
Two maidens, with their two mothers —
Two sisters, with their two brothers —
Yet but Six Corpses in all lie buried here ;
All born legitimate, from incest clear."
This puzzle has appeared in different forms, but
I have never seen any solution of it.
J. H. I. OAKLEY.
Wyverby, Melton Mowbray.
THE CAMPBELLS AND GRANTS. — The Eev. Isaac
Taylor, in his valuable work, Words and Places,
attributes to many well-known Scottish families a
Norman origin ; among others, the Campbells and
Grants, the latter of which he deduces from Le
Grand (p. 201), and in a foot-note, on the same
page, he states that Skene, in his History of the
Highlanders,vo\..ii.p. 280, &c., attempts to disprove
the supposed Norman origin of the Campbells and
other Scottish families. He admits, however, the
case of the Grants, vol. ii. p. 255. I have not seen
Mr. Skene's work, and am not aware of his line of
argument ; he is, however, perfectly right in re-
taining the Celtic derivation of Campbell, and he
is wrong in giving up that of Grant. The former
is plainly from Cam, crooked or awry, and bel, a
mouth (see the Ir. Diets, of O'Brien and O'Eeilly).
The name evidently originated, like those of many
others, in some personal peculiarity of its first
possessor, a very common practice among the Celts.
By a reference to the Annals of the Four Masters,
we find such names as the following : — " Aedh
Balbh, or the Stammerer, A.D. 737 ; Aedh Suidhe,
or the Tawney, A.D. 600 ; Bran Seg, or the Little,
A.D. 733 ; Cairbre Crom, or the Crooked, 757, for
crom lias the same meaning as Cam. In later times,
we find the great Irish family of the O'Conors, who
•were divided into two branches, distinguished by
the agnomina of Don and Ruadh, i. e., the Brown
and Red, which distinction, Dr. O'Donovan states, —
" Was first made in the year 1384, when Turlogh Don
and Turlogh Ruadh, who had been for some time
emulating each other for the chieftainship of Sil-
Murray, agreed to have it divided equally between them ;
on which occasion it was arranged that the former should
be called O'Conor Don, and the latter 0 ' Conor Ruadh." —
Jr. Toj)l. Poems, p. 20.
In 1542, we find that Conn Bacacli, Con the
* Jortin's Life of Erasmus. London, 1760. Vol. ii.,
p. 444.
Lame, was created Earl of Tyrone. These examples
will be quite sufficient to show that some of the
highest families in Ireland have been named from
personal peculiarities, and even defects. The noble
family of the Campbells need not, therefore, be in
the least ashamed of their Celtic origin, or that
the first of the name had a facial defect ; for he
would not have been remembered by it had he not
been a remarkable chief or warrior in his day.
Eespecting the distinguished name of Grant,
which Mr. Taylor derives from the French Le
Grand, and which Mr. Skene appears to resign, it
will be found in the Annals of the Four Masters
as early as A.D. 716, as follows :
''The battles of Ceannanus (Kells, in Meath) by
Conall Grant (i. e., the Grey) Ua Cearnaigh, wherein
were slain Tuathal Ua Faelchon, and Gormghal, son of
Aedh, son of Dluthaeh, and Amhalgaidh Ua Conaing, and
Fearghal, his brother. Conall Grant himself was also
slain, in two months afterwards, by King Fearghal."
I believe there can be no disputing the above
authority. KICHARD EOLT BRASH.
Sunday's Well, Cork.
BAVIN. — In the glossary to the Globe Shakespeare
this word is explained as being "applied con-
temptuously to anything worthless." Around
Belfast Lough " the Bavin " is the name of a very
worthless fish — the wrasse ; it is full of bones : the
only use made of it by the fishermen is to bait their
lobster pots. W. H. PATTERSON.
Belfast.
THE KILKENNY CATS. — Compare —
Ytos KCU yeverrjp B?}piv <j>iX6veiKov Wtvro,
T/s TrXtov e/cSeTrai'wv, KXrjpov aTravra </>ayoi,
Kai fj.€Ta Trjv fipuxriv TYJV -
Tracraj/,
A.OITTOV e
Epigram. Grcecorum, Johan. Brodcei
Franeqfurti, MDC., p. 227.
E.G.
[The following notes appear in the above work : —
" EK $a7ravwi/ = expendens."
" De patre et filio comedonibus qui simul in certamen
descenderunt, uter plus de substantia devorare possit : ac
demum omnibus devoratis, se mutuo consumpserunt."]
ELECTIVE AND DEPOSING POWER OF PARLIA-
MENT (PAGE 24) : CORRECTION. — " As Sir James
Mackintosh observes, implying the idea that it was
' indefeasible, though not necessarily implying any
notion of Divine right.' " The marks of quotation
should be confined to the word " indefeasible," the
words following being added by the writer. I wish
to add, that it does not follow that because Henry
IV. was a usurper, and never had any legal right
to the throne, that therefore the statutes of his
reign were never laws, for .they, as Lord Hale
explained, became valid by subsequent tacit adop-
tion. This was recognized in a case which arose
when Lord Macclesfield was Chancellor.
W. F. F.
5'" fi. I. JAN. 17, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
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[We must request correspondents desiring information
on family matters of only private interest, to affix their
names and addresses to their queries, in order that the
answers may be addressed to them direct.]
GEORGE III. AND THE PIG.— In " N. & Q." of
January 1st, 1870, page 19, you did me the favour
of inserting a few observations on James Bissett,
which a correspondent of your paper, a few weeks
after, called an omnium gatherum. May I ask
him, or any other of your numerous readers, if they
could favour me with the supposed observations
made by George III. to my father, on the latter
presenting His Majesty with an enormous pig?
The incident was represented in a caricature pub-
lished, in 1800 or 1801, by Forbes, of Piccadilly,
or Gilray. It was just after the Irish rebellion,
and the print was very popular. My father then
lived at Fazeley, near Tamworth. Having pur-
chased the pig, and shown it at several fairs in
Staffordshire, he hired a canal boat, by which it
was conveyed at considerable expense to London.
On its passage through Oxford the animal excited
some amusement among the students. The king
being apprized of the intended present, appointed
a time for the interview, which took place at
Windsor Castle. My father, being a member of
the Staffordshire Yeomanry (Lichfield troop), wore
his regimentals, and was offered a commission,
which, however, he declined. The wonderful pig
was afterwards brought to the hammer, and pro-
duced a smart competition between a pair of rival
showmen. It was found poisoned the next morn-
ing, and considerable suspicion rested on the un-
successful competitor. I should be glad either to
purchase the caricature, or to have a copy of the
remarks which fell from the king. My father died
at Croydon, in the eighty-fourth year of his age,
and his son, the writer of this, is also an octoge-
narian. I shall be eighty-five (if spared) on the
15th inst. CHRISTOPHER NORTON WRIGHT.
50, Addison Street, Nottingham.
UNLAWFUL GAMES OF THE MIDDLE AGES. —
What were the games of " Cayls " and " Cloysh,"
declared illegal by the statute 33 Henry VIII. c. 1 ?
I find also " Guek " denounced as " an unleeful
and reprovable game" in the regulations of the
Sanctuary of St. Martin's-le-Grand (which regula-
tions comprised, among others, an ordinance that
" barbours " were not to ply their vocation in the
Sanctuary on the Sabbath). What was Guek 1
GEORGE AUGUSTUS SALA.
NATHAN BROOK'S "COMPLETE LIST, MILITARY,"
LONDON, 1684. — I am desirous of seeing a copy of
the above work, often referred to in Cannon's
Records of the Army, and in Mackinnon's Cold-
stream Guards. I have sought for it in vain at the
British Museum and in the catalogues of the Mili-
tary Libraries. Any information on this subject
will be thankfully received by me.
S. D. SCOTT. .
HENRY MEDWALL. — Wanted, the date of the
death of " Mayster Henry Medwall, late Chape-
layne to the ryght reverent fader in God Johan
Morton cardynall, Archbyshop of Caunterbury."
He was the author of the Interlude of Nature,
1538, and of another interlude, called Fulgens and
Lucres. This second is undescribed. The only
copy I ever saw is preserved in the library of a
very ancient family in the north of England.
J. 0. HALLIWELL.
DENHAM, NOTTS. — Will any Nottinghamshire
topographer kindly inform me of the whereabouts
of this place 1 In 1775 a relative of mine is stated
to have been born there, where he resided for many
years. I am not confounding it with the Denhams
of Bucks, Suffolk (or Norfolk), or Scotland.
J. A. MASON.
SOMERSETSHIRE LEGENDS AND SUPERSTITIONS.
— Being engaged in collecting (for future publica-
tion) the legends and superstitions of Somerset,
I shall feel much obliged to those readers of " N.
& Q." who are acquainted with any, if they will
communicate them to me for insertion in the pro-
posed collection, so that my efforts may be rendered
as successful as possible. C. H. POOLE.
St. Alban Hall, Oxford.
JEREMIAH SAVILLE. — Can you give me any
particulars of this musician, who lived about the
time of the Restoration, and is only known now
through his madrigal or "fa la" song, The Waits,
which (I know not why) is always sung at the
close of any concert of Madrigals, and to which
the late Mr. Oliphant (who, were he living, could
tell us all about it) wrote a couplet of verse 1 He
is just mentioned in Burney, but Fe"tis has not a
line about him.
THE WATERLOO AND PENINSULAR MEDALS. —
When were these medals issued 1 The Waterloo
medal, I remember, came first ; but how long after
the victory it commemorated? and in what year
was the Peninsular medal issued ? I think the
Duke just lived to see the latter. C. T. B.
GEN. THOS. HARRISON. — Is it possible to
obtain any genealogical account of Gen. Thomas
Harrison, the regicide, and one of Cromwell's men;
also (if he had any), his crest and coat of arms ;
and, — a very difficult matter, I presume,— his
autograph? A traciag of his signature to the
death-warrant I have. I am very much interested
in this matter, and have exhausted, fruitlessly, all
means of obtaining this information, which I had
a legitimate right to call upon.
A. M. HARRISON.
Capt. U.S. Coast Survey, Plymouth, Mass.
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5"- S. I. JAN. 17, 74.
GRAHAME, VISCOUNT DUNDEE. — James Gra-
hanie, of Duntroon, titular Viscount Dundee, was
attainted for his share in the '45, and died at
Dunkirk, 1759. Did he leave any children, and
if so, what became of them and their descendants,
if any ? Did his father (William Grahame, titular
Viscount Dundee, attainted 1716) leave any other
descendants 1 To whom did the estates of Claver-
house ultimately pass ? M. L.
MRS. SIDDONS A SCULPTOR. — In Dallaway's
admirable work, Anecdotes of the Arts, published
in 1800, is the following statement: —
" The first tragedian of the English stage, Mrs. Sid-
dons, has executed the busts of herself and her brother,
Mr. John Kemble, with astonishing truth and effect."
The public would be glad to know what has
become of them. GEORGE ELLIS.
St. John's Wood.
WANTED, the author of a poem beginning: —
" We must be semi-atheists — God is here,
And we forget ; yet if some emperor,
A gluttonous satyr, were but near us now,
How reverent we should be ; and yet we stand
With, absent heart in the deep gaze of God."
The poem is said to have been written by a
nobleman's son. * * *
" Du droit qu'un esprit vaste et ferine en ses desseins
A sur 1'esprit grossier des vulgaires humains."
Was this celebrated answer of Talma to the game-
keeper a quotation ; if so, from what author 1
A. MlDDLETON, M.A.
Kingsbridge Grammar School, South Devon.
" All night the storm had raged."
Who is the author of a poem on Grace Darling
beginning thus. W. W.
" ARCANDAM " : OLD BOOK.— Who was the
author, and when was it printed, of a little book,
which is printed in black letter, is not paged, and
has the above word, " Arcandam," at the head oi
each page 1
It appears to be an astrological treatise on the
twelve signs of the Zodiac. At the end of the
treatise, there is a similar one on the "Physiognomy
of the Body Humane." It is not perfect, wanting
leaves at beginning and end. PEARMAIN.
THE GREEK SWALLOW SONG. — Where can I find
the original Greek swallow song sung by th
Athenian children ? A FOREIGNER.
BATENHAM'S "ETCHINGS OF PUBLIC BUILDING.
IN CHESTER."— I have twenty-four Etchings Oj
Public Buildings in Chest®- (two series), by G
Batenham. Have any more been published ?
ABHBA.
HERALDIC.— Arms, quarterly, 1. Azure, a griffin
segreant to the sinister, standing on a crown am
holding in the left paw a sword.
2. Two bendlets, between a decrescent in dexter
liief and an increscent in sinister base, all within
bordure or.
3. Or, a double-headed eagle displayed, crowned.
4. Party per fess, gules and azure, in chief a
emi-lion rampant, holding a lily ; in base three
inqfoils in fess.
In pretence, an inescutcheon, gules charged with
tter L, and surmounted by an electoral crown.
The whole shield surmounted by a similar
rown, and surrounded by two collars, the inner
ne composed of SS., a crown, and a pillar be-
ween two lions rampant respecting each other,
ilternately, with a cross suspended ; the outer one,
chain of flowers, from which is suspended an
lephant.
Supporters : Dexter, a griffin, as in the arms ;
inister, a lion, holding a lily.
• I am not conversant with foreign heraldry, and
nay be incorrect in my blazon, or description. I
hould like to knoAv to what prince, potentate, or
)ower, they belong. G. A. C.
Or, a chevron gules, in the dexter chief -the
mdge of Ulster, showing the rank of baronet.
Co whoni were these arms granted? Date be-
ieved to be 1650. D— S.
There is in the south aisle of Kimbolton church
a well carved boss. Two hearts banded with the
motto " Be trewe." Whose coat of amis is this ?
T. P. FERNIE.
Kimbolton.
NEW- MOON SUPERSTITIONS. — I was recently
informed by an old Dorsetshire shepherd that " a
Saturday's new moon once in seven years was once
too often for sailors," meaning thereby that sailors
have a special dread of a new moon falling upon
that day of the week. As an illustration of this,
the new moon for August last fell upon a Saturday,
and certainly both weather and sea were unusually
rough for the time of year. Doe's this superstitious
notion obtain elsewhere 1 J. S. UDAL.
SMITH : PIGOT : BOVEY. —
"Le Neve in his MSS. puts a query if Sir Rober4-
Smyth, Bart, (of Upton, Essex), had not a second
wife, Rebecca, daughter of Sir William Rowney, or
Rumney, Knt., relict of .... Spurstowe, Esq., and if
he had not by her two daughters, Margaret, married to
Granado Pigot, of Abington, co. Cambridge, Esq., and
Rebecca, wife of William Robinson, of London, mer-
chant."— Betham, Baronetage, ii. 371.
Can any reader of " N. & Q." answer Le Neve's
query 1 Granado Pigot appears to have been a
son of George Pigot, by Frances, his wife, daughter
of Sir Eobert Chester, whose mother was the
daughter and heiress of Sir James Granado,
equerry to Henry VIII.
" A house in Little-Chelsea being then known by the
name of Sir James Smith's house, was sold in 1699 by
5th S. I. JAN. 17, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
the Boveys, as heirs of Dame Anne Smith, to Anthony
Earl of Shaftesbury." — Lysons's Environs of London
second edition, ii. 110.
Who was this Sir James Smith ; and is any
thing known of the ancestry of Dame Anne, ne
Bovey ? * H. SYDNEY GRAZEBROOK.
Stourbridge.
VARIOUS QUERIES. — Wanted, any information
regarding Charles Collins, who is understood to b
author of Comala, versified from Ossian, and on
or two other short poems, privately printed in &
small volume, 1819, Hodson, Cambridge, printer
Comala was composed by the author during the
autumn of 1817. He had just completed his seven-
teenth year, and he says " it served to amuse some
few intervals of leisure, stolen from severer studies/
Also regarding the editor and contributors to the
Merchant Taylors' Miscellanies, printed by Hansard
London, 1832. This school magazine, edited by
Marmaduke Mapletoft, Gent., existed from March
1831, to June, 1832. I should be gkd to know
who were the authors of the following papers, al
of them of a poetical or dramatic cast : —
1. Essays on the Greek Drama. By S.
2. Nugse Dramaticse (a Dramatic Scene). By (Omicron)
3. Marius on the Ruins of Carthage : a Soliloquy. By V.
4. A Dramatic Sketch, in 6 Parts. By B.
5. The Dialogues of the Dead. By L. C. N.
6. Chorus from " Clouds " of Aristophanes. Translated
by G. I.
7. Essay on the Bacchae of Euripides. By L. L.
8. Essay on the Choephori of Eschylus. By 0.
9. Colin and Lydia: a Pastoral Dialogue. By Peter
Styles.
I want any biographical information regarding
William Seward Hall, author of The Empire of
Philanthropy, a Dramatic Poem, in three acts.
London, 1822, 8vo. The book is dedicated to the
king.
Would any of your Australian readers inform
me who is the author of Enderby, a Tragedy, in five
acts, no date (1865?), 8vo. ? The play is published
by F. F. Bailliere, of Melbourne, and is printed by
Mason, Firth & Co., Flinders Lane, Melbourne.
B. INGLIS.
NICHOLAS FELTON. — I shall be glad of informa-
tion about Nicholas Felton, a son, I suspect, of
Bishop Felton, who succeeded Laurence in this
living in 1621, and was turned out of his living,
then reckoned as worth 200Z. a-year, by the Earl
of Manchester in 1644 (Walker's Sufferings of
Clergy).
There was a Nicholas Felton, a native of Yar-
mouth, Master of Pembroke Hall, Cambridge,
1616, and Bishop of Ely from 1619 to 1626, when
he died, and was buried under the Communion
* Joseph Bovey, of Coughton, co. Warwick, married,
in 1677, Mary, daughter of Henry Smith, of Cropthorne,
co. Worcester, which Henry was cousin-german to Sir
Robert Smyth, of Upton, Bart.
Table in St. Antholin's Church, London (Ben-
tham's Ely).
There was another Nicholas Felton, son to
Eobert Felton, who was admitted as Sizar at
Pembroke College, Cambridge, January 15, 1633,
when in his fifteenth year. Fellow in 1641,
ejected 1644.
Neither of these was the rector of Stretham,
though probably all were of the same family.
The wife of our rector, Elisabeth Felton, was
buried December 23, 1624.
EGBERT KEMP. — The history of another of
my predecessors, though he is of later date, is a
great puzzle to me — " Mr. Eobert Kemp, inducted
1690 ; buried 1696." I cannot find his name either
in the Oxford or in the Cambridge Graduati.
HUGH PIGOT.
Stretham Rectory, Ely.
WILSON ARMS. — In the old churchyard of St.
John's, at Hampton, on James Eiver, Virginia,
there existed before the late civil war a massive
iron-stone tomb slab, on which was elegantly
engraved this coat of arms, viz., " Sa. on a cross
engr : between 4 cherubs heads, or., a heart of the
1st wounded on the left side proper, crowned with
a crown of thorns vert." This stone was to the
memory of Capt. Willis- Wilson, who died in 1701.
Col. Wm. Wilson, his father, was Eoyal Collector
of Customs for James Eiver, and died at a great
age, about 1715. Among the archives of the
Capitol at Eichmond Va., I have seen a letter from
Col. Wilson to the Governor, of a date between
1680-90, to which is attached his seal, bearing a
clear and distinct impression of these same arms.
This coat is unique, and differs totally from those
assigned by Burke to the Wilsons generally, in
whose arms the wolf figures prominently.
I desire to ascertain, if possible, the original
grantee of these arms, and whether they are borne
ay any family of Wilson in England at this day.
WILSON M. CARY, Jr.
Baltimore, U.S.A.
SIMPSON ARMS. — What is the crest, &c., of the
Simpson family, and do the Simson or Sympsou
amilies bear the same crest, &c. 1
J. W. S.
MOSES OF CHORENE. — Some years ago I re-
nember to have seen, in one of the Bampton
" ectures, a note to the effect that it was stated by
Vtoses of Chorene that the grandson or great-
grandson of Togarmah was named Haig ; that he
ad rebelled against Nimrod, and retired into the
mountains of Armenia, where Nimrod had attacked
lim, but was unsuccessful in attempting to subdue
lim, and was killed in the attempt. I shall be
)bliged if some of your readers would give me
nformation as to this. I do not remember reading
Moses of Chorene either at Eugby or Trinity.
An old relative used to tell me that we were
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5th S. I. JAN. 17, 74.
descended from Togarmah, but all my family and
I only laughed at it as an old superstition. Any
information will be acceptable to
J. E. HAIG.
ANONYMOUS BOOKS. — Required, the authorship
of the following works : —
"Histoire de la Revolution de France, prece"dee de
1'Expose Rapide des Administrations successives qui ont
determine cette Revolution Memorable." Nouvelle
Edition. Par Deux Amis de la Liberte. 4 vols. 12mo.
Paris, 1792.
" History of the Campaigns in the Years 1796-9 in
Germany, Italy, Switzerland," &c. . . . Illustrated with
Sixteen Maps and Plans. 4 vols. 2nd Edition. London,
1814.
" Le Gaffe, ou L'Ecossaise." Comedie, par Mr. Hume,
traduite en Fran9ais. Londres, 1760.
[Perhaps intended for John Home, author of the
tragedy of Douglas, but I cannot find that he •wrote any
comedies.]
" Letters on Mr. Hume's History of Great Britain."
Edinburgh, 1756.
" Memoirs of the Private and Political Life of Lucien
Bonaparte, Prince of Canino." Translated from the
French. 2 vols. London, 1818.
" St. Stephen's ; or, Pencillings of Politicians." By
Mask. [James Grant, I suspect.] London, 1839.
JAMES. T. PRESLEY.
KING AT ARMS. — Where, in the scale of prece-
dence, does this dignitary stand ? It seems to me
that the principal King at Arms, in each of the
three kingdoms, should, in virtue of his office, be
knighted as a matter of course, not that the pre-
fix of " sir " would add to his dignity, for that, I
take it, is considerably greater than the rank of
Knight Bachelor. S.
CAPTAIN GRANT AND SIR WILLIAM GRANT. — A
large portion of the coast of this colony, Victoria,
was discovered in December, 1800, by James
Grant, Lieutenant, E.N., in command of H.M.
brig " Lady Nelson." One of the capes was named
by him Cape Sir William Grant ; it is marked on
his chart " Cape Solicitor, or Sir William Grant's
Cape," which would seem to identify the person it
was named after as the eminent lawyer who was
at that time Solicitor-General, and who, shortly
after, became Master of the Rolls. WThat is known
of Grant and his after career? When Flinders
wrote his Voyage to Terra Australis, published in
1814, Grant was a captain. Was he a family con-
nexion of the Master of the Eolls ? J. B.
Melbourne, Australia.
THE CENTENARY CLUB. — This is believed to
have existed in London about the latter end of the
last century. Any information about it will be
thankfully received. VIRION NIGHTON.
GEFFROY DE CHAUCEROIE. — Allow me to draw
MR. FURNIVALL'S attention to the fact that among
the signatories to a deed in the Tresor des Chartes,
published by Boutani in his St. Louis et Alfons<
if, Poitiers, p. 490, appears the above person, as
Sire de Bercoie. MR. FURNIVALL will remember
hat the dominions of Alfonse de Poitiers were
listorically connected with England. Is it not
probable that Chaucer was of noble descent 1
ALFRED C.
BERE REGIS CHURCH.
(4th S. xii. 492.)
The composer of this epitaph seems to have been
a great coxcomb and an inaccurate scholar ; and
some passages admit of nothing but a conjectural
rendering. But allowing for bad Latin, and cor-
recting a few errors due to the author, to the
copyist, or to the printer, the following version
may be attempted. It may be observed that a
passage sometimes can have but one rendering,
but one which in .no way helps us to the sense.
" Patrimonium narcoticum," for instance, can mean
nothing but "narcotic patrimony"; but what the
sense or nonsense of this bit of pedantry is, can
only be guessed. The errors are as follows : —
1. .4, "conculcus" should be concalcas, or concalces;
1. 9, full stop after " oriundi " ; 1. 13, " academiam";
1. 16, comma after " postea," not full stop ; i. 17,
colon after " contulit"; 1. 25, " Praedicatorem';'
1. 28, full stop after "invenere"; 1. 29, colon after
" maledicjB "; 1. 36, fuU stop after " fuit "; 1. 38,
comma, not full stop, after "narcoticum"; 1. 47,
full stop after "13°"; 1. 50, 51, full stop after
" consecravit " instead of " Elizabetha " ; 1. 53, no
stop after " habitare." The initial capital letters
are most capriciously placed, but that is trifling.
Thou passest on —
stay a little —
it will be to thee no waste to know
the worth of that which thou
treadest under foot.
Here lie,
set apart when he passed into ashes,
the remains of Andrew Loup of Dorchester,
born in arid sprung from an
ancient lineage in Bere.
Having been educated with due care
and suitable success
by his kinsfolk,
he sought the renowned Academy of Oxford,
where, in Hall,
through four years he laboured stoutly.
Afterwards
he betook himself to one of the Inns of Court ;
next,
to increase his skill, and investigate the
secrets of commerce,
he abode nearly five years
among the French, the Italians, the Spaniards.
Then he revisited his country,
where
Academics found in him a philosopher,
lawyers an expounder,
his neighbours a peacemaker,
the oppressed a defence,
all who had to do with him, a religious man..
5th S. I. JAN. 17, 74.]
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51
But see the giddiness of
the evil-speaking crowd :
while among the ranks of the orthodox
he showed himself an unconquered champion,
he was by some traduced as a Papist,
because of set purpose, and
without heresy or schism,
for the glory of God and the seemliness
of the Church,
he clung to the foundations and the rites
of the Christian faith.
In his last days he found repose in
his patrimonial home :
whence, yielding to an Herculean disease
under which for three years he laboured,
at length, and under sentence of death
still mindful of his baptismal vow,
he expired,
before he had passed through the
last decade of the archetypal length of man's life,
on the 13th of June
in the 1639th year
since the birth of the Saviour of the world.
To the memory of a husband never
(had not the Holy Scripture
closed the fount of tears)
to be mourned sufficiently,
Elizabeth, his most pious wife,
consecrated this offering.
" I had rather be a doorkeeper in the house of my God,
than to dwell in the tents of ungodliness." — Ps. Ixxxiv. 10.
I should have admitted that one expression,
" Aula cervina," I can make nothing of. Probably
it refers to some Oxford tradition, which those with
local knowledge may explain.
The forty-fifth line is unintelligible ; but it is
just possible that it may refer to the " threescore
years and ten," leaving out of sight the patriarchal
lives, and treating that period as the original or
normal duration. But the sense I have suggested
can hardly be forced out of any conceivable gram-
matical construction. LYTTELTON.
P.S. — Since writing, it has been suggested to
me that "Aula cervina" is Hart Hall. May be
so ; but I do not know that hall.
It may be observed that the words "Voti
fluminei damnas memor expiravit " form a spon-
daic hexameter ; but it is probably accidental.
[There was formerly a Hert or Hart Hall, which
became Hertford College in 1740.])
Premising, first, that the Latin is a little canine,
and that the stops are in utter confusion ; and,
secondly, that certain parts, though they can be
translated, cannot be explained unless we know
deceased's history ; premising, I say, this, there
seems no very extraordinary difficulty in MR.
GUEST'S brass. I render it thus : —
Passenger, stay a little ; it will be no loss of time for
thee to know the history of such a man as thou treadest
under thy feet. Here, by the ashes of his predecessor,
lie buried the remains of Andrew Lombe of Dorchester,
born and sprung of an ancient race among the natives of
Bere : brought up by his friends with no less care than
was lit, and with success as happy as became them, he
sought the celebrated University of Oxford, where in
Hart Hall he worked hard for four years. Afterwards
he betook himself to one of the Inns of Chancery. Then
for increase of his knowledge and inquiry into the secrets
of commerce abiding for nearly five years among the
French, Italians, and Spaniards, he at last returned to
his own country, where academics found him a philo-
sopher, lawyers a conveyancer, neighbours a peacemaker,
the opprest a refuge, and all who knew him a religious
man. But consider the folly of the evil-spreading
multitude ; for while he showed himself an unconquered
champion among the ranks of the orthodox, he is alleged
by some to be a Papist because, to the glory of God and
the honour of the Church, he embraced, without practis-
ing heresy or schism, the foundations and ceremonies of
the Christian religion. In extreme old age he found his
estate a trouble ; worn out by which, and labouring for
three years under severe illness, at last, as destined, he,
mindful of his baptismal vow, expired before he had
spent ten years in the relics only of his former life, in
the year from the birth of the Saviour of the world 1637,
on the 13th of the month of June. This to the memory
of a man never enough to be wept for (if holy Scripture
had not closed the fount of tears), his most loving wife
Elizabeth has consecrated. "I had rather be a door-
keeper in the house of my God, than to dwell in the
tents of ungodliness " (Ps. Ixxxiv. 10).
CHARLES F. S. WARREN, M.A.
With the exception of one or two places, un-
doubtedly obscure, and of which I am not certain,
this epitaph appears to me to be perfectly intel-
ligible. Avoiding baldness as much as may be, I
will render it as near to the Latin as I can. I
assume it to " be a true and correct copy."
Regardless passer, stop awhile, and pause. There is
that beneath your feet the worth of which it is worth
your while to learn. Here with his father's ashes are
deposited the remains of Andrew Loupi, of Dorchester, a
scion of the ancient stock of Beeren. Trained with
loving care, the profiting was in due proportion. Placed
at Hart Hall, in the celebrated University of Oxford, he,
for three years, diligently applied himself to study, and
thence migrating to one of the Inns of Chancery, he
afterwards, to add to his stores of knowledge, and to gain
an insight into mercantile affairs, passed nearly five years
in France, Italy, and Spain. He then returned to his
native land, where, so extensive had become his attain-
ments, so admirably formed his character, by scholars
he was pronounced a philosopher, by lawyers an autho-
rity on mercantile jurisprudence, by his neighbours
a pleasant neighbour, by the oppressed a firm defender,
by all a religious man. But mark the fickleness of
popular favour — of the multitude ever more alert to
blame than praise. Foremost among the champions of
orthodox belief, he yet, but without any show of heresy
or schism, held firmly by those doctrines and ceremonies
of the Christian Faith which he deemed to be funda-
mental, and alike conducive to the glory of God, and the
peaceable ordering of the Church. On this ground he
was charged with having become a Papist. His declining
years he solaced with the managing of his estate. At
length, having laboured for three years under a grievous
malady, which in the end proved fatal, he, ever mindful
of Ms obligations for an unfailing flow of blessings, and
when he had enjoyed his patrimony scarce ten years,
breathed his last, on June 13, in the year from the
Saviour's birth 1643. And this is dedicated by his most
dutiful wife to a husband for whose loss she must have
been inconsolable, had not Holy Scripture shut up the
fountain of her tears.
" I would rather be a doorkeeper in the house of my
NOTES AND QUERIES.
S. I. JAK. 17, 74
God, than to dwell in the tents of wickedness" (Ps.
Ixxxiv. 10).
The only passages of which I have any serious
doubt are those printed in italics, being in the
original, " Voti fluruinei damnas memor," and
" Protoplast! vivendi relliquias per decennium
peregerat." The former, but for fiumineir would
be clear enough, as damnas = damnatus, and
voti damnatus is classical (Liv., vii. 28, xxvii. 45).
The latter is a great puzzle, and can only admit of
the rendering which I have given, upon the pre-
sumption that several of the words are employed
in a very unusual and strained acceptation. Pro-
toplastus, for instance, is always, so far as I know,
used of Adam, nor am I aware that it ever refers
to the first founder of a race. Suidas certainly
connects it with ap^yos, and dpx?jyos is so used
by Sophocles (0. C., 60). But then again as to
"relliquias" and "peregerat," I know of no
instance of the one meaning property left behind
by a former possessor, or of the other the use or
enjoyment of such property. Such being the case,
my rendering must be taken as purely conjectural
— for as much as it is worth — which, in -my own
judgment, is near akin to nothing. If MR. GUEST
has an opportunity, will he look at the monumental
brass again, to be sure that no error has crept into
the copy ? EDMUND TEW, M. A.
THE GRIM FEATURE (4th S. xii. 85, 191, 316,
435.) — In my turn I venture to think PELAGIUS
is wrong in explaining "the grim Feature" to mean
the " future victims " of death ; thus making it
objective to "scented," and leaving that verb
without any nominative. He surely overlooks that
there is 'a full-point after " bloody fight," and that
each, member of the simile is a complete sentence
by itself. If he do not, he has yet to learn that
Milton does not construct a sentence without a
substantive, pronoun, or relative, to govern the
verb. Such being the case, it seems to me indis-
putable that the verb "scented" is intransitive,
and that its nominative is " the grim Feature." I
can see, too, why Milton did not give Death his
name here. The reason was the near position of the
word Death in the preceding "line. Had he, by
inadvertence, written —
• " design'd
For death, the following day, in bloody fight.
So scented Death, delighted, and upturn'd
His nostril wide into the murky air,"
his exquisitely attuned ear would have resented
the symptosis, and he would have substituted for
" Death " some descriptive equivalent ; and what
could be finer than the one which has possession of
the text ?
The entire passage, combining the two relative
sentences, is thus given in the first edition, bookix.
11. 272-281, but I observe that from 1. 230 (mis
printed 2gO) the numbering is wrong up to 270.
It is rectified at 1. 280:—
" So saying, with delight he snuff'd the smell
Of mortal change on Earth. As when a flock
Of ravenous Fowl, though many a League remote,
Against the day of Battel, to a Field,
Where Armies lie encampt, come flying, lur'd
With scent of living Carcasses design'd
For death, the following day, in bloodie fight.
So scented the grim Feature, and upturn'd
His Nostril wide into the murkie Air,
Sagacious of his Quarrey from so farr."
Let us inquire what are Milton's usages of grim
and feature. For the latter we have the passage
in the Areopagitica (already cited in " N. & Q.,"
4th S. xii. 317), where feature is frame or form, as
of a living body. (Elsewhere, as in Comus, it is a
part of the face.) Grim is frequently used in
Paradise Lost ; viz., once of Moloch's idol ; once
of the fires of hell ; once of war ; and in the re-
maining four places it is the epithet of Death or of
his cave. Surely it may be hence inferred that, in
the passage in question, the phrase " grim Feature"
means the shapeless shape of Death, which is so
eloquently described in book ii., 11. 666-676, et seq.
Here he is called an " execrable shape . . . grim and
terrible " ; " the grisly Terror," and " grim Death";
all of which are admirably summed up in that one
masterly phrase " grim Feature."
While I cannot but think that PELAGIUS " doth
vainly talk " on this occasion, I feel obliged to him
and your other correspondents who have discussed
with so much ability the question I submitted to
their consideration ; and to MR. JOSEPH PAYNE for
so frankly acknowledging his mistake. JABEZ.
Athenaeum Club.
PELAGIUS may rest assured that " grim Feature "
is not the " objective case after scented," or that it
means " creation," " the future victims now made
over to corruption." It is, undoubtedly, the nomi-
native to the verb, answering to " a flock of rave-
nous fowl," in the antecedent member of the simile.
About the grammar, or the sense, there is no diffi-
culty whatever. It runs perfectly clean and clear
— i.e., " As a flock of ravenous fowl " scents, &c.,
so " the grim Feature scented." The emendation
of PELAGIUS is simply a case of " e fulgore fumum,"
and he does nothing more by it than to import a
totally new element into the discussion. The question
previously raised was on the meaning of the word
" feature " — whether it meant Satan or Death. It
has been generally admitted to mean the latter, as,
in fact, it can mean nothing else. I have some-
times thought whether it may not be barely pos-
sible that " feature " has crept into the text for
figure. Grim figure comes very much nearer to
common usage, and might be capped by many cog-
nate expressions, as poor figure, sorry figure, &c.
Upon the whole, my loyalty to Milton compels
me to say that I believe he never would have
written a sentence so awkward in construction, and
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so involved in sense as this would be, presuming
PELAGIUS'S exegesis to be correct.
EDMUND TEW, M.A.
Can PELAGIUS really be serious in the explana-
tion he gives of this passage ? Can he adduce any
other instance of " feature " being ever used in the
sense he attributes to it, viz., " corrupted creation,"
or rather "carnage, prey innumerable"? This
meaning is quite new to me. Again, if "grim
feature " be the objective, what is the subject or
nominative to "scented"? It can only be the
pronoun "he" some half-dozen lines back, but if
so, it should be repeated to make sense, and just
imagine Milton writing " So (he) scented the grim,"
&c. ! — a construction quite at variance with what
PELAGIUS himself refers to as peculiar to that poet.
See his own example, "So spake the Universal
Lord," &c., with which the passage in question
completely agrees, if "feature" be taken as the
nominative. E. M. C.
Liverpool.
"OiL OF BRICK" (4th S. xiL 448.)— A neighbour
tells me that " Oil of brick " was inserted in the
London 'Pharmacopoeia, 1746, in which it was
named Oleum Lateritium, and was prepared as
follows : — Bricks — common — heated to redness,
quenched in olive oil, afterwards bruised and dis-
tilled ; the product forms a dark brown oil, similar,
both in colour and consistency, to ordinary oak
varnish. At the present day, it is factitiously
prepared by mixing equal parts of crude oil of
amber and olive oil. J. MANUEL.
" Oleum Lateritium. Oil of Bricks.— Heat bricks red
hot, and quench them in oil olive, till they have soaked
up all the oil ; then break them into pieces small enough
to be conveniently put into a retort ; and distil with a
sand heat gradually increased : an oil will arise, together
with a spirit, which is to be separated from it as in
the foregoing process.
"This preparation has had a place in most Dis-
pensatories, under the pompous names of oleum philo-
sophorum, sanctum, diinnum, benedictum, and others as
improper as that under which it stands above. It is
really oil olive, rendered strongly empyreumatic by heat;
the spirit, so called, is no more than phlegm, or water,
tainted with the burnt flavour of the oil. • It has been
celebrated for sundry external purposes, particularly
against gouty and rheumatic pains, deafness and tingling
of the ears, &c., and sometimes likewise given inwardly.
But common practice seems to have now entirely
rejected this loathsome remedy."
The above, which is from Quincy's English Dis-
pensatory, 14th edit., 8vo., London, 1769, will
inform H. T. how he may himself make " Oil of
brick"; and if the last sentence was true in 1769,
I should think that in 1873 this oil has "No
Name." j. B. B;
Oxford.
The following is the receipt for its preparation
given in the Pharmacopoeia of the London Colledg,
1666 :—
" Take, of bricks broken in pieces, as big as an Hens
Egg ; heat them red hot, and quench them in Old Oyl,
where let them lie till they be cool ; then beat them into
fine pouder, and still them in a glass retort, with a fit
reciever, give fire to by degrees and keep the Oyl in a
glass close stopped."
Two centuries ago it was much recommended in
gout, sciatica, and as an anodyne generally ; but
it has long since passed away from all authorized
pharmacopoeias. The use of the powdered brick is
only that of a porous absorbent to hold the oil
whilst it is subjected to destructive distillation.
EDWARD SOLLY.
See Gray's Pharmacology, &c., 5th edit., 1831,
At page 209 is the following: —
"Oil OF BRICKS, Oleum lateritium. — From olive oil,
mixed with brick-dust, and distilled; very resolvent,
useful in palsy and gout."
J. O. N.
Brighton.
"NOR" FOR "THAN" (4th S. xii. 388, 502 ; 5"»
S. i. 12.) — In reference to LORD LYTTELTON'S note,
I can assure him that the expression is not yet
obsolete. The old-fashioned Gloucestershire farmers,
as distinguished from the new school of "agri-
culturists," as they prefer to style themselves,
frequently use the word " nor" for " than." One,
an old neighbour of mine, a rare tough blade, now
on the retired list, between eighty and ninety, and
in easy circumstances, always makes use of it. He
is like " Sir Joshua," a little deaf, though, instead
of an ear-trumpet, he more often has a pipe in his
hand ; and —
• When they talk'd of their quanos, perphosphates and
stuff,
He shifted his Broseley and only drank ' rough.' "
that is, cider of rough flavour, which old cider-
drinkers prefer. In offering you, for instance,
some of particularly good quality, he would speak
in this vein, " Try this, sir, this is pretty drink,
'tis better nor common," meaning, better than
common " drink." And here I may note that the
word " drink " in the example given, is employed
in that precise and limited sense which logicians
term " second intention," and stands for " cider "
only, — just as the same men use the word
" beast " for " oxen " ; sportsmen, " birds " for
" partridges " ; and Scotchmen, " fish " for
"salmon." In Scotland, "How many fish have
you killed ? " would refer to salmon only. I would
further remark, that before railway-station, certi-
ficated school-teacher, and cheap newspaper
influences, these old turns and expressions are
fast dying out, and should, I think, be noted down
and recorded in " N. & Q." by the country clergy
and others. F. S.
Churchdown.
It appears to me that this must be merely a
Celtic idiom, one of the many instances still re-
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[5th S. I. JAN. 17, 74.
maining, handed down to us from the ancient Britons.
For certain it is that the same word in Welsh, " na,"
is expressive of both phrases ; nor is this a vul-
garism, inasmuch as it frequently occurs in the
Welsh Testament; thus, "gryfach no, myfi"
(mightier nor I, or than I). Again, " mwy na
phrophwyd " (more nor, or than, a prophet). Such
instances are innumerable. M. H. K.
CHARTER OF EDWARD THE CONFESSOR (4th S.
xii. 171, 238, 436.) — MR. C. FAULKE-WATLING, in
his obliging reply, states that the application of
the word rache to a dog hound, and brack to a
bitch hound, is not universal. I was aware of the
exceptions mentioned, but the passage referred to
in Lear contains, in the 1623 edition, several in-
accuracies. Brack may be there a misprint for rach.
Webster derives brack from braque (Fr.), " A
bitch of the hound kind." Christopher Wase, in
his translation of Gratius, 1654, uses the word
bratck for bitck. In the First Part of Henry IV.,
Hotspur says, "I had rather heare Lady, my
Brach, howle in Irish." And in Lear is the
passage, " Truth's a dog must to kennell ; hee must
bee whipt out, when the Lady Brach may stand
by the fire and stinke."
May I ask in what work is the German word
bract used as signifying a scenting dog 1 Tke
Gentleman's Recreation, by Nicholas Cox, did not
appear until 1674 (Blome's in 1686), and the quo-
tation seems taken in great measure from Hector
Boece, but with alteration and omission. Boece
does not, I believe, state that brack is a mannerly
name. Our early ancestors, though, perhaps, as
virtuous, were not so squeamishly mincing as their
descendants. Family Shakspeares were unknown.
GEORGE E. JESSE.
" CENTAURY " (4th S. xii. 407, 520.)— The genus
Centaurea, to some species of which C. L. refers
under the above heading, is a very large one, and
it is not possible to tell from his description which
member of it is referred to. The " peculiar
properties attributed to this plant by the Greeks "
were probably those of healing ; the name being
given to it, according to Pliny, from the centaur
Chiron, who cured himself with it from a wound
which he had accidentally received from an arrow
poisoned with the blood of the hydra. See Prior's
Popular Names of British Plants.
HEREFORDSHIRE CHRISTMAS (TWELFTH DAY)
CUSTOM (4th S. xii. 466.)— See a very similar
account in Brand's Pop. Antiquities, i. 30 (Bohn's
edition), cited from Gentleman's Magazine, Feb.,
1791.
CHARMS (4th S. xii. 469.)— Would GYRVI give
some indication of the district where the charm;
he cites are in use ? JAMES BRITTEN.
British Museum.
"AN AUSTRIAN ARMY," &c. (3rd S. iv. 88
4th S. x. 412, 503.)— The following paraphrase,
;hough not translation, in Latin, of the well-
inown alliterative alphabet in English, made
several years ago, may perhaps be thought worth
mbalming in "N. & Q.," as a specimen of classic
trifling. It has the same number of lines as the
original. The last line in the English, as it con-
sists of words beginning with the letter A, is
intended, I presume, for & (" And, per se ") : —
" Austriaci agmen agunt audaces agglomerantes,
Belgradi bellum balistis belligerantes,
Cimmerii comites contendere consociantur,
Dum diri dubio discrimine digladiantur,
Ensibus erumpunt equites examine equorum,
Famam fert Fortuna, ferocia facta furorum,
Gens gentem grassans geminat gladios graviores,
Hinc Heliconiades hilarant herois honores.
Insidias ineunt, irarum immane imitamen,
Jam juvenes jugulant juvenes, juvenale juvamen,
Luctantur lapides longo laxare labore,
Muris mirifico minitatur machina more.
Nil numerus noscit, noxam, neque nobile nomen
Objicit, offensis oculis obstantibus omen.
Perpauci patriae pro paupertate pavescant,
Quum queruli quaerunt quassi quacunque quiescant ;
Religio revenit, revocat ratione retentos,
Suvarrus sedare sonos scit sanguinolentos.
Turca triumphasti ! tranquillo tempore turges,
Usurpatores undis ultricibus urges !
Vanescat vanis Victoria vse ! violenter,
Victores valeant ! valeatis vos vehementer
Vernae vinosi, vacuarum vis viduarum,
Xerxes, Xanthippus, xenium xerampelinarum,
Zenonis zelus, zothecse zelotyparum !
Arma adsurit agris, at amoribus absit amarum !
E. A. D.
THE CATTLE AND THE WEATHER (4th S. xii
516.)— This prognostic of fine weather has been
familiar to me in Wiltshire since my childhood ;
that is for, at least, fifty-five years.
E. C. A. PRIOR.
CHAP-BOOKS : " WISE WILLIE ANDWITTY EPPY "
(4th S. xii. 495.) — I expect to be able shortly to
answer fully MR. PATTERSON'S inquiries. Mean-
while let me refer with praise to the first part of an
excellent andlong-desired account of Tke Humorous
Ckap-BooJcs of Scotland, written by John Eraser, late
of Glasgow, and now of New York, where he is
editor of the Arcadian. I am daily expecting the
second part, in which I have already received a
proof of the full length portrait of Dugald Graham,
the ingenious author of many famous Penny
Histories, &c., including Jockie and Maggie's
Courtship, Lothian Tom, Leper tke Tailor, John
Cheap the Packman, and the two humorous old
songs, Turnamspike and John Hielandman. It is
probable that the authorship of Wise Willie and
Witty Eppy remains unknown. But an account
of it is promised in the forthcoming sixth chapter.
The subject of old Scottish chap-books has
successively interested Sir Walter Scott, William
Motherwell (who commenced making a collection,
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and bitterly reproaches borrowers for diminishing
his store), and Dr. Strang, of Glasgow. John
Fraser is likely to do serviceable work, and throws
light on much of the popular chap-literature of
Scotland during the last century, when Wise Willie
was a favourite. His book is published by Henry
H. Hinton, 744, Broadway, New York, and James
Hadden, Sauchiehall Street, Glasgow.
J. W. E.
Molasb, Kent.
LIBERETENENTES (4th S. xii. 515.) — I take it
that these were persons who held land, tenements,
or other kinds of property, exempted from all
kinds of charges or burdens whatsoever, freeholds
absolutely. Such were many of the possessions
held by the greater religious houses, as plainly
appears from the schedules in the Monasticon. Du
Cange describes them as " Qui liberum tenementum
tenent vel possident," and gives as his authorities
Leg. Malcolm., ii., Reg. Scot., cap. 9, and Fleta.,
lib. ii., c. 72, § 13. They were divided, it appears,
into intrinseci and /orenseci=burghers, and non-
burghers, not unlike those under the Roman Com-
monwealth.
Sir Henry Spelman says (Glossary), " Galli,
ingenuiles vocant, quos nos} Liberc-tenentes" but
says the status of the latter has undergone a change,
and that "Eorum Ingenuiles non sunt liberi a
rusticis servitiis, ut hodie nostri plerumque Libere-
tenentes," the difference being exemption from
labour, which then, if demanded, they were obliged
to give. EDMUND TEW, M.A.
PORTRAITS or DR. JOHNSON (5th S. i. 2.) — The
first of the two portraits mentioned by MR. THOMS
of Dr. Johnson, by Sir Joshua Reynolds, is not
amongst the list of portraits given in Boswell's
Life of Johnson, Illustrated Edition, 1851,
published at 198, Strand. Boswell gives a long
catalogue of the various portraits, &c., of Johnson,
vol. iv., p. 285 ; he also gives four portraits of him
by Sir Joshua, one appearing on the title-page of
each of the four volumes. The first is said to have
been taken in 1756, when Dr. Johnson was forty-
seven. He is represented seated at a table, pen in
hand, and apparently in a " brown study." It is
stated to be Sir Joshua's first picture of him. The
three other portraits given are of inuch later date,
I think. Boswell would scarcely have omitted the
first portrait mentioned by MR. THOMS, had such a
one been taken by Sir Joshua Reynolds. I cannot
find that it is mentioned at all, though the list
comprises some eighteen portraits of Dr. Johnson ;
nor is there a portrait by Gainsborough amongst
the number. FREDK. RULE.
LORD LIGONIER (4th S. xii. 490.)— J. H. L.-A.,
in a note to his article on the family of " Lawrence
of Philadelphia, Jamaica, &c.," states that General
Lagonier, afterwards Lord Ligonier, was Earl
Beauchamp's ancestor. I should be curious to
learn on what authority J. H. L.-A. makes the
statement. The last Lord Ligonier died in 1782,
I believe childless; certainly his honours expired at
his death. Nor can I detect any connexion be-
tween the families of Lygon, Earl Beauchamp, and
Ligonier, Earl and Viscount Ligonier, in any peerage,
ancient or modern. M.
RING MOTTO (4th S. xii. 517.) — This appears to
be an interesting old betrothal ring, and the motto
freely translated would be " As we are now of one
mind, I give thee this in open betrothal." The
cinquefoil, having been adopted for the external
outline, was doubtless intended to represent the
entire devotion of the donor to his betrothed, or
that he had made a wise choice, that leaf being
formerly used to represent the five senses, and so
metonymically wisdom. The giving of betrothal
rings and the publication of betrothals are still
common in Germany. BROCTUNA.
Brecon.
PECK'S COMPLETE CATALOGUE (2nd S. vii. 247 ;
3rd S. vii. 212.) — Of my edition of Peck's Com-
plete Catalogue, which appears to have been un-
known by REV. CHANCELLOR HARINGTON, whilst
mentioning Rev. E. Gee (5th S. i. 16), the most
satisfactory notice, amidst many other kind com-
munications I have received, is the following from
the lamented Rev. M. A. Tierney, with reference to
the first part : —
" Peck's work was always useful, but you Lave made it
by your additions really valuable. It is now an instruc-
tive as well as serviceable volume ; and I bope it will not
be long before we shall see tbe socond part of it. To
those who, like myself, have the good fortune to possess
a collection comprising, in addition to all the tracts
enumerated by Peck, very many of those which you have
described, it must of course be particularly interesting."
Dr. Todd, after he had read this letter, ob-
served : —
" I was very glad to see Dr. Tierney's letter. I hope
that neither your remarks nor mine on any of Peck's
articles can be accused of anything like bigotry or
intolerance. We have both laboured to edit the book
in a scholarlike spirit, and true scholarship knows no
party. The only thing that looks like ' Exeter Hall ' is
the word 'Popery' on the title-page, which modern
Roman Catholics look upon as an insult, why, is difficult
to say. But for this neither you nor I can be responsible."
I shall only add that the number of books and
pamphlets relating to this controversy, at that
period deposited in this library, is more than 600,
and that many others are incorporated, to be found
in the Bodleian, Trinity College, Dublin, Sion
College, &c. I have subsequently been informed
by the learned Dr. Reeves, librarian of the Archi-
episcopal Library of Armagh, that he can yet
furnish a supplement to these multiplied Cata-
logues. BlBLIOTHECAR. CHETHAM.
o
"EMBOSSED" (4th S. xi. passim; xii. 29, 117,
178, 218, 297.)— One of the most satisfactory ex-
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[5lh S. I. JAN. 17, '74.
planations of the hunting technical " imbost " is
to be found in Lyly, whose comedies are a some-
what neglected storehouse of words and phrases.
In Mydas (iv. 3) the two pages are laughing at the
language of hunting : —
' Min. I pray thee speak some.
'Pet. I will.
' Huntsman. But speak in order, or I 'le pay you.
'Pet. There was a boy lasht on the single, because
when he was imbost, hee tooke soyle.
'Min. What's that?
'Pet. Why, — a boy was beaten on the taile with a
leathern thong, because when hee fomde at the mouth
with running, hee went into the water."
From another part of the dialogue, as well as
from this, it would seem that " to lash " was at
that time another hunting technical not understood
by ordinary mortals. To boss, though not, I
believe, part of the language of venery, was used
in the same sense as "imbost." Stubbes, in his
Anatomie of Abuses, says of barbers, " For then
shall your mouth be bossed with the lather or
fome that riseth of the balles (for they have their
sweete balles wherewithall they use to wash)."
B. NICHOLSON.
_" SPURRING" (4th S. xii. 44, 295, 398.)— This is
said to be a Lancashire word, and equivalent to a
" calling of the banns," i. e. calling for evidence of
the publication of them at the marriage ceremony.
It seems, then, no other than — and, at least, is alike
in signification to — the Scotch speiring or speering,
the participle of the verb to speir, which signifies
to inquire, ask, or investigate : —
" A pyper met her gaun to Fife,
An' speir't what was 't they ca'd her."
Song of Maggie Lander.
L. L.
SURNAME " BARNES " (4th S. xii. 496 ; 5th S. i.
14.) — The inquiry of CURIOSO is very interesting
to me. In Queen Elizabeth's days the Barnes held
large estates in Middlesex and Surrey, and were
in the Commission of the Peace. They were ardent
Roman Catholics, and greatly mixed up in the
several conspiracies of the times. Most of their
Property was confiscated in Elizabeth's and James
,'s time — that is, the property of such of them as
were attainted of treason. Their spurs were
hacked off in true feudal fashion, and every record
of their existence erased from the sacred pages of
the heralds : not a single pedigree of them or their
ancestors is there now to be found in the College
of Arms, and I think few traces of them elsewhere.
From one branch my great-grandfather, Eichard
Barnes, descended, and the tradition in his family
was that several of his ancestors, direct or collateral,
after suffering much for their adherence to Eome,
fled to the Continent ; and it is not at all unlikely
that in Spain they would find their future home,
where they would be well received by the sovereign.
At this time there were many Englishmen settled
in that country, and as early as Henry VIII.'s
reign, or the commencement of Elizabeth's, I find
a younger Hatton, of Hatton, in Cheshire, " wed a
doghter of ye greatest Duke in all Biscaye " !
Who was then " ye greatest Duke in all Biscaye " ?
And will your correspondent kindly say in what
town in Spain (and how far from Madrid) these
Barnes are now settled, and what baptismal names
they bore in generations past 1 The registers (if
any) of two or three hundred years since should
supply interesting information. T. H.
ITALIAN WORKS OF ART AT PARIS IN 1815
(4th S. xii. 342, 411, 524.)— On this subject your
correspondents may perchance have seen a letter
from an indignant Italian in the Times of the
30th October, 1871, and a spirited article in
Macmillan's Magazine for December of the same
year. A publication they are less likely to have
met with is a book printed at Paris in the sixth
year of the Eepublic (1797-8), entitled Etat des
Objets d'Art envoyes aux divers Musees Franpais
et conquis par les Armies de la Republique pendant
la Guerre de la Liberte. The Etat is made up of
long lists of those priceless treasures (beginning
with the Transfiguration and the Laocoon). of which
Italy and the Netherlands had been so ruthlessly
despoiled. The compiler tacks on to his catalogue
the remark that, as for Raphael's frescoes in the
Vatican, " il sufnt a la Ee"publique Franchise de
les de"sirer pour les acquerir"; and he concludes
with a threat of bringing the "pressure of bayonets"
to bear even upon John Bull : —
" On ne doit pas regarder comme perdue pour la
Republique cette superbe galerie d'Orleans Ne
sait-on pas qu'elle est a Londres? Le conquerant de
1'Italie voudra sans doute 1'y retrouver et la rendre au
musce de la grande nation."
H. D. C.
MARY, DAUGHTER OP WILLIAM DE Eos (4th S.
xii. 495, 523.) — I am much obliged to HERMEN-
TRUDE for her prompt answer to my query. The
authority I quoted from was The Sussex Archceo-
logical Collections, vols. v. and viii. ; in the first
from a paper by Mr. M. A. Lower, M.A. ; in the
second from one by Mr. William Durrant Cooper,
F.S.A. ; who both state that the third wife cf
William de Braose, who died A.D. 1290, was Mary,
daughter of William de Eoos. I also think, but
am not sure, that in the Burrell MSS. in the
British Museum, such is stated to be the fact,
under Seeding Manor, No. 5686, fo. 156 et seq.
I suspect, from a date given in that MS., that,
though an inquisition was not taken until 19
Edward II. , she died in the tenth year of that reign.
D. C. E.
The Crescent, Bedford.
"LINES ADDRESSED TO MR. HOBHOUSE" (4th
S. xii. 329, 357.) — I remember these lines when
first published, and they were then said tc be by
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Lord Byron. I believe, indeed I am almost cer-
tain, they were first published in The Liberal,
Verse and Prose from the South. ELLCEE.
Craven.
" PRAYER MOVES," &c. (4th S. xii. 309, 455, 506 ;
5th S. i. 20.) — I thought myself bound to use every
effort to rectify the mistake which I was led into
respecting this quotation. The following extract,
from a letter received lately from a friend, will, I
think, settle the question : —
" I am happy to inform you that, after some research, I
have found the line you enquire about—' Prayer moves
the Hand which moves the world.' It is the 19th line
in the hymn commencing ' There is an eye that never
sleeps,' composed by the Rev. John Aikman Wallace,
Minister of Hawick, and first appeared in the Scottish
Christian Herald, 1839, p. 616. Since then the original
line has been somewhat altered from ' It moves the Mind
omnipotent ' to ' Prayer moves the Hand which moves
the world.'
" The original in five stanzas is very rough, and com-
prises two measures, C.M. and L.M., so that it has been
recast to bring it into common measure. It is entitled
Prayer in the original, 1839."
FREDERICK MANT.
THE ACACIA (4th S. xii. 209, 314, 436.)— I ex-
tract the following from Dr. Mackey's Lexicon of
Freemasonry, edited by Donald Campbell, C.
Griffin & Co., London : —
"Acacia. — The ancient name of a plant, most of whose
species are evergreen, and six of which, at least, are
natives of the East. The Acacia of Freemasonry is the
Mimosa Nilotica of Linnaeus, a shrub which grew in
great abundance in the neighbourhood of Jerusalem."
I may add that the acacia is invariably referred
to as a shrub in masonic ceremonies ; and I, there-
fore, think it can hardly be the locust-tree, as sug-
gested by DR. DIXON. E. S. N.
FUNERAL GARLANDS (4th S. xii. 406, 480 ; 5th
S. i. 12.) — In the Argus, for August 5, 1790, is the
following item : —
" Sunday being St. James's Day, the votaries of St.
James's church yard attended in considerable crowds at
the shrines of their departed friends, and paid the usual
tributary honours of paper gloves and garlands of flowers
on their graves."
It is customary in country places to carry gar-
lands before the " bier of a maiden," and then to
hang them over her grave. See Comical Pilgrim's
Pilgrimage into Ireland. W. WINTERS.
Waltham Abbey.
SCOTTISH TITLES (4th S. xii. 349, 396 ; 5th S. i.
17.) — If I could see my way to do so, I should be
glad, as a friend to precision, to accept the assur-
ance of L. L. that, before addressing or referring
to the wife of a Scottish landed proprietor, corre-
spondents and others made it their duty to be " well
and ripely advised " as to whether her husband
held his estate immediately under the Crown or
not. But does L. L. wish us distinctly to under-
stand that, supposing Sir John Schaw, instead of
holding Greenock directly from the Crown, had
held it from a subject superior (in which, I presume,
there would have been no incompetency), his wife
would have been called (so far as Greenock was
concerned) the "Gudewyfe of Greenock"? That
is really what L. L.'s statement comes to ; because
he does not place her right to the title of " Lady
Greenock" upon the fact of her being the wife of
a Baronet or Knight, but upon the fact of her
being the wife of a person who held his lands im-
mediately under the Crown. He speaks of this
latter class as including Baronets and Knights, but
it did not necessarily include them ; they might
not have held an acre either one way or the other.
I cannot help thinking that in dealing with a
question of usage a safe answer is preferable to a
subtle one, and the words " landed proprietors "
were used by me advisedly. W. M.
Edinburgh.
RISE IN THE VALUE OF PROPERTY IN SCOTLAND
(4th S. xii. 490; 5th S. i. 11.)— I am obliged to
MR. PICTON for drawing my attention to the
stupid blunder made in the equation between the
Scottish and English currency. Of course I was
aware that a pound Scots money was equal to
twenty pence of our present currency, and thought
that I had so calculated, but had evidently not
done so. These sheep farms in Closeburn, of which
I spoke, belonging to the Duke of Buccleuch, are
now paying somewhat more than ten to eleven
times what they did about the middle of last
century. Thus, throwing away the odd shillings,
for Mitchellslacks in 1763 was paid 90Z. per
annum ; now, 1,050£. For Locherben, 1777, was
paid 1021. per annum ; now, 1,111Z. Is it not the
case that the rise in arable farms is still greater ?
I am able to contrast the rise in these sheep farms,
of which I have spoken, with the rise of rental in
a small property, chiefly, or, I may say, entirely
arable, the leases of which lie before me since 1753.
The Baltersan property, to which I refer, consists,
in Scotch measure, of 445 acres, and is situated in
the parish of Holywood, about five miles from
Dumfries. It was bought in 1753 for 1,145Z., and
was let at that time for 45 1., showing that it was
bought for about twenty-five years' rental. The
following shows the gradual rise in the rental : —
1753 rent £45
1762
1795
1815
1844
1863
55
145
580
440
630
It will be observed that the rental in 1844 is lower
than it was in 1815, and this is accounted for by
the fall in value of everything at the close of the
French war. I believe the rental fell immediately
in 1816 to 430Z., but the lease is missing. I have
heard that the tenants at that time got into
difficulties, and had to give up their farms. The
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[5th S. I. JAN. 17, '74.
rise in this case is fourteen times what the property
was paying in 1753, and at thirty years' purchase
it would bring about 19,OOOZ., instead of 1,145?.
C.-T. EAMAGE.
PENANCE ix THE CHURCH OF ENGLAND (4th S.
xii. 169, 213, 298, 416 ; 5th S. i. 16.)— Penance
was done in the church of Terling in Essex about,
or hot long before, the year 1850. I did not see
it, but it was talked of in the neighbourhood.
Verification could be obtained, I presume, by apply-
ing to the clergyman of the parish. %.*%.
SIR THOMAS PCLESTON, LORD MAYOR OF LON-
DON (4th S. xii. 368, 416 ; 5th S. i. 18), was of a
Denbigh family, notices of whom may be found in
a recent volume of the Archceologia Cambrensis.
Elizabeth, daughter of Sir Thomas Puleston,
married Feb. 21, 1584, Mr. Eichard "Wilbraham,
Common Serjeant of the City of London, from
whom, in direct descent, is the present Lord Skel-
.mersdale. An uncle of this Mr. Eichard Wilbra-
ham was Becorder of London, and a brother, Sir
Eoger Wilbraham, was Master of the Court of
Eequests, surveyor of the Court of Wards and
Liveries, and Solicitor-General for Ireland in 1585.
Mr. Eichard Wilbraham was buried in St. Michael's,
London, in 1601. F.
INNOCENTS' DAY (5th S. i. 8.) — I have in my
hands a letter from the vicar of Ampney Crucis,
Gloucestershire, containing the following passage: —
" The bells are rung — muffled — on St. Innocents' Day.
The peal is begun at 12 noon ; the bells are left v.p, and
they finish it in the evening about 8 p.m."
C. F. S. WARREN, M.A.
A MNEMONIC CALENDAR FOR 1874 (5th S. i. 5.)
— When MR. SKEAT was at the pains to compose the
two lines thus designated in " N. & Q.," January 3,
p. 5, I think he could not have been acquainted
with the old mnemonic distich : —
" At Dover dwell George Brown, Esquire,
Good Christopher Finch, and David Fryar."
The initials of the several words in these lines are
the Sunday letters opposite the first day of every
month in the Calendar in the Book of Common
Prayer ; and by means of them, if the Sunday
letter for any year be known, the days on which
all the Sundays fall in that year may be readily
found. For example, A stands opposite the 1st of
January, and as D is the Sunday letter for this
year, the first Sunday in January this year was the
4th. Again, D is opposite the 1st of February,
and consequently that day will be the first Sunday
in that month this year ; and so mutatis mutandis
for all the other months. The first Sunday in any
month being known, the others are manifest. A
glance at the Calendar in the Book of Common
Prayer will make this very plain. It must be un-
necessary to add, that the utility of these lines is
not limited to Sundays. F. S. A.
" STERN" : " FIRM" (4th S. xi. 484, 532.)— The re-
ference to Walker shows that a century ago there
were different opinions as to the pronunciation of
" stern " and " firm," but not how they were then
pronounced. Only fourteen years after the critique
in the Dramatic Censor Archdeacon Nares seems
to have known no more about it than myself : —
"Of the irregular sounds of i: u short. The letter r
produces this effect upon an i as upon an e immediately
preceding it in the same syllable. Ex. Bird, circle, firm,
virgin, so that it is not easy in these circumstances to
trace the orthography from the sound. Vergin, virgin,
and vurgin would be pronounced exactly alike." *
FlTZHOPKINS.
Garrick Club.
PETER PINDAR (5th S. i. 19.)—" The Praise of
Margate " is in " Tales of the Hoy ; interspersed
with Song, Ode, and Dialogue." My edition of
the works of Peter Pindar is in three volumes, the
first two published in 1801, the third in 1805
(London, Wood, Vernon, &c.). The different pieces
are numbered continuously throughout the three
volumes, and " Tales of the Hoy " is No. 46, the
last piece but two in the third volume.
J. H. I. OAKLEY.
Wyverby, Melton Mowbray.
" TALENTED " (4th S. xii. 427 ; 5th S. i. 33.)—
In the Life and Speeches of Daniel O'Connell, by
his son, 2 vols., 1846, there appears to be no
reference to the use of this word, and although
many speeches are quoted, it does not, I think, once
occur. In a review article that appeared in 1830
on Jean Paul F. Eichter, Thomas Carlyle, in trans-
lating, uses the expression "the most talented
men," vide Critical and Miscellaneous Essays (re-
printed 1872), vol. iii., p. 38. J. MILLER.
ALTARS IN THE MIDDLE AGES (5th S. i. 9.) — I
would refer W. H. S. to Martene de Antiquis
Ecclesice Eitibus, i. 110, ii. 288, iii. 98 (edit.
Venice, 1783, 4 vols. folio), and to Catalani's
Pontificale Eomanum, ii. 196, (edit. Paris, 1850,
3 vols. quarto).
With regard to England, Mr. Maskell notes in
the Monumenta Eitualia. III. cxlix., that "the
separate consecration of altars was of late intro-
duction " ; and there is in his book no such form.
They were however specially blest during the con-
secration of a church.
CHARLES F. S. WARREN, M.A.
THE BEST CAST (4th S. xii. 443, 522.)— There is
some plausibility in the suggestion of M. P., that
* It seems that our ancestors distinguished these
sounds more correctly. Bishop Gardiner, in his first
letter to Cheke, mentions a witticism of Nicolas Rowley,
a fellow Cantab with him, to this effect : — " Let hand-
some girls be called virgins, plain ones vurgins " — " Si
pulchra est virgo, sin turpis vurgo vocetur." — Elements
of Orthoepy, p. 27. Lond., 1784.
5" S. I. JAN. 17, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
59
the first four lines of this prophecy refer to
James VI. of Scotland and I. of England, and that
the last two lines refer to William III. and his
father-in-law, James II. ; but still it is surrounded
with very grave objections.
The first line of the prophecy is this—" Allwayes
the vj is the best cast of the dyce," and I cannot
imagine how these words are to be applied to
James, the son of Mary. In no sense was he the
" best cast of the dyce," nor has VI. been remark-
able for good kings in English history ; witness
Henry VI, Edward VI, the boy king, and
James I who was VI. of Scotland, a man most
assuredly not to be proud of.
The second line runs thus: — "When the ace
beryth up the vj then shall england be a payradice,"
but it would be an historical outrage to assert that
England was a paradise under any one of the
Stuart dynasty, unless, indeed, " the silver age of
Anne " may be excepted.
Lines three and four are —
" When vj and iiij sett all of one syde/
then ye worde of vj shalbe spred full wyde."
M. P. says this refers to the marriage of Prince
Charles with the daughter of Henry IV; of France.
But surely James was no longer vj but i when he
left the throne of Scotland for that of England ;
and how did this marriage bring it about that " ye
worde of King James was spred full wyde"?
That marriage in nowise consolidated the authority
or increased the popularity of the Stuarts.
In regard to the last two lines, M. P. says " they
were added afterwards," and refer to the Revolution.
The lines are —
" When iij & ij holld nott all one assent
then shall there be anewe kyng/ & a newe parlamentt."
In the first place there is not the slightest reason
for supposing that these two lines are of later date
than the four preceding ones — the ink, the character
of the writing, the spelling, the stops, are all of
the anterior date. No one can see them and not
pronounce them to be early Tudor. In the next
place, the Prince of Orange was not William III
till he was already King of England. It was not
because William and his father-in-law were at
variance that William was made King of England,
but because James and his subjects were at
variance that the Prince of Orange was invited
over by the people of Great Britain. It was not
because or " when iij & ij held not one assent "
that the new king was chosen, but when James II
and his people held not one assent that the Prince
of Orange was made William III, and James was
declared to have abdicated. Dissension between
James and his father-in-law had no part nor lot in
the matter.
There can be no doubt that the six lines are one
subject and not two prophecies joined together.
Giving M. P. full credit for his suggestion, I must
still differ from it, and think I am " not reasonless
to reason thus." E. COBHAM BREWER.
Lavant, Chichester.
NOTES ON BOOKS, ETC.
The Vision of William concerning Piers the Plowman,
together with. Vita de Dowel, Dobet et Dolest, secundum
Wit et Resoun. By William Langland. Edited, from
numerous MSS., with Prefaces, Notes, and Glossary,
by the Rev. Walter W. Skeat, M.A. In Four Parts.
Part III. (Early English Text Society, No. 54.)
Generydes. A Romance in Seven-line Stanzas. Edited
from the Unique MS. in Trinity College, Cambridge.
Edited by W. Aldis Wright, M,A. Part I. (Early
English Text Society, No. 55.)
The Myroure of Oure Ladye. Containing a Devotional
Treatise on Divine Service, the Offices used by the
Sisters of the Brigittine Monastery of Sion, at Isle-
worth, during the Fifteenth and Sixteenth Centuries.
Edited, from the Original Black-Letter Text of 1630,
with Introduction and Notes, by John Henry Blunt,
M.A., F.S.A., &c. (Extra Series, No. XIX.)
THE Early English Text Society continues to reflect the
energy of its founder ; while the books just issued show-
that neither is the zeal of their editors abated, nor their
stores of learning exhausted. ;The third of the four parts
of which Mr. Skeat's important edition of The Vision of
William concerning Piers the Plowman is to consist, is a
noble volume of between six and seven hundred pages,
and contains what is known as " Whitaker's Text," or
" Text C." The poem is introduced by an elaborate and
instructive Preface, in which the editor describes the
various MSS. of the C-Text, its date, character, and the
allusions in it ; and besides describing the edition of it
issued by Dr. Whitaker, gives a brief notice of the Doctor
himself. Those only who have looked at this preface
can form an idea of the labour which it must have cost
Mr. Skeat— a labour so exhaustive that we should think
there can be little left for any future editor to supple-
ment or to correct.
The C-Text of The Vision is followed by Richard the
Redeles, another poem attributed to William Langland,
and which has been twice printed by Mr. Wright, under
the title of Poem on the Deposition of Richard II., viz.,
for the Camden Society in 1838, and in 1859 in the first
volume of his Political Poems and Songs. The volume
concludes with a short poem— a letter of advice, as Mr.
Skeat aptly describes it— addressed to a youthful but not
incompetent king, Henry V. The poem has been well
named by the editor " The Crowned King," and he shows
very clearly that it was not the work of Langland. but
one of several poems written in imitation of Piers the
Plowman.
Of the second book on the list, Generydes, a romance
in seven-line stanzas, edited by Mr. Aldis Wright, from
the unique MS. in the Library of Trinity College, Cam-
bridge, as it contains only a portion of the text, we shall
postpone our notice until we have the advantage of
having before us the result of Mr. Wright's investigation
into the history of the work and its author, &c.
A glance at the contents of the volume of the " Extra
Series " just issued by the Society — The Myroure of
Oure Ladye — will show that it has a value far different
and, in the opinion of many, doubtless far higher than
that which led to its reprint by the Early English Text
Society, in the illustration which it furnishes of con-
ventual life in this country during the fifteenth and
sixteenth centuries. After the editor's Introduction, in
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[5th S. I. JAN. 17, '74.
which he gives us a bibliographical notice of the Mirror,
an historical account of Sion Monastery, and of the
life of the Sisters, and then of the services as illustrated
by the Mirror, he prints the life of Saint Bridget,
supposed to be written by the same author. The
" Myroure " itself then follows in three parts ; and the
volume is brought to a close by the necessary notes and
a short and useful Glossary. The learned editor of The
Annotated Hook of Common Prayer has spared no pains
to give interest and completeness to the volume com-
mitted to his charge.
The Power of the Priesthood in Absolution, and a Few
Remarks on Confession, &c. By William Cooke, M.A.,
F.S.A., Honorary Canon of Chester. Second Edition.
(Parker & Co.)
CONSIDERING the important doctrinal questions. Con-
fession amongst the number, that are now agitating the
Church of England, Mr. Cooke has done well in repro-
ducing this excellent little book, which originally appeared
in 1858. The value of the work is enhanced by a copious
Appendix ; and when we add that it received the special
commendation of such a man as the late Bishop Hamil-
ton, of Salisbury, there remains nothing to say by way
of praise.
Letts' 's (No. 26) Pocket Diary, and an Almanac for 1874.
(Letts, Son & Co.)
IT is only necessary to say that the present publishers
have fully succeeded in their endeavour to maintain the
well-established character of this useful Diary.
" You know who the critics are ! The men who have
failed in literature and art." At p. 439 (Miscellaneous)
of the last volume, the sentiment expressed in the above
phrase, in Mr. Disraeli's Lothair, was traced back to
Balzac in 1846; to Pope, 1711; and to Dryden, 1693.
We now add one more link to the chain, and this is again
afforded by Dryden, twenty years earlier. In 1670, he
thus commenced the prologue to the second part of
Almanzor and Almahidej or, the Conguest of Granada: —
" They who write ill, and they who ne'er durst write,
Turn critics out of mere revenge and spite."
THE IRON RAILINGS ROUND ST. PAUL'S. —On January
8th the old iron railings at the west end and on the north
and south sides of St. Paul's Cathedral were sold by
public auction, by Messrs. Home & Co., preparatory to
the opening out of the thoroughfare, which will be
effected by the improvements now almost completed.
The sale included the west gates in front of Ludgate
Hill, together with the north and south sides of the
railings included in the widening of the thoroughfare.
They were described by the auctioneers as having been
made of the best Sussex charcoal iron, cast about the
year 1710. The attendance at the sale chiefly consisted
of dealers, the result being, as the entire proceeds of the
sale, 349Z. 5s. only. The property was disposed of in
Dean's Court, Doctors' Commons. It has been stated
that the original cost of the railings was 20,0001.
WE have received the folio wing: — "Some of your readers
may be interested in helping me to carry out a collection
of book-plates which has engaged me for some years,
selecting and arranging the early and rare, the artistic
and choice, and the curious and quaint, of which there
are many, not armorial. I shall be willing to insert any
gentleman's book-plate bearing upon any of these charac-
ters, and will acknowledge his plate by a copy of my own,
and shall be glad to purchase also or to exchange dupli-
cates. I have in hand three folio volumes, and enclose
to you photographs of the three title-pages, which were
designed and drawn by that worthy mediaeval artist, the
late Mr. George Barclay. HENRY PAKITT."
" Carlton Husthwaite, Thirsk."
EARLY ENGLISH LITURGY.— A small quarto volume,
containing twenty-five curious Liturgical tracts, issued
during the reigns of Edward VI., Elizabeth, and James I.,
among which was included " Psalmes and Hymns of Praier
and Thanksgiving, made by William Barlowe, Bishop of
Lincolne," privately printed, 1613, was on Tuesday last
sold by Messrs. Puttick & Simpson, of Leicester Sauare,
for 721.
KOYAL INSTITUTE OP BRITISH ARCHITECTS. — Mr. Thomas
Naden has been elected a Fellow, and Mr. R. L. Hesketh
an Associate, of the Institute.
BOOKS AND ODD VOLUMES.
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Particulars of Price, &c., of the following books to be sent direct to
the gentlemen by whom they are required, whose names and addresses
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Wanted by Boolcworm, 14, Market-Jew Terrace, Penzance.
to
A. M. — Col. Mure, of Caldwell, in his Critical History
of the Language and Literature of Ancient Greece (Vol.
iii., 100 — 110), affords as good an account of the Scolion
as can well be found in any writer. Speaking of " the
favourite series of Harmodius and Aristogiton," he says
that, in Athenceus, that series "is inscribed in whole or
in part to Callistratus, an Athenian." The transcript is
correct.
QU^KRO. — H. B. is the pseudonym of the celebrated
father of Richard Doyle. He is said to have adopted
the initials H. B. on his caricatures from the circum-
stance of his always sketching them with a Hard Black or
H.B. pencil.
SLAUGHAM.— See Brayley's History of Surrey. It is
there noticed that the widow of Sir Walter Covert of
Slaugham, Sussex, re-married with Denzil, Lord Holies.
R. H. F.— For a thorough sifting of the story of the
Masque de Fer, see the last number of the Edinburgh
Review and the works named in that article.
ABHBA. — Only two volumes of the edition to which
you refer (1829) of the London University Magazine
appeared.
V. DE S. FOWKE. — Any German teacher in Oxford
could solve this difficulty.
G. M. P. — The' answer will be published when, re-
ceived.
B. E. A. — CRESCENT acknowledges with thanks your
kind correction. x
E. B. S. (Glasgow.)— In type.
G. L. H.— Next week.
A. S. A. (Richmond). — Your letter arrived too late for
this week. In next number, with pleasure.
A. H. B. (Edgbaston.)— Always glad to hear from you.
5th S. I. JAN. 24, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
61
LONDON, SATURDAY, JANUARYS. 1874.
CONTENTS. — N» 4.
NOTES :— French Revolution, 1792 : Official Badges — A
Jacobite' Letter, 61 — Kentish Epitaphs, 62 — Academy of
Antient Music, 63— Edward III.'s Minstrels in 1360-61— The
Flag of England— " Mousquetaires " and " Carabiniers " —
Unaccountable Sounds— "Black-a-vized," 64— Lord Byron
in Scotland— An Historical Elephant— Abbotsford in 1825—
Body-snatching — Barbara's Lines on Dean Ireland, 65—
Healthy Profession—" Scrip " for " Letter " — A Horoscope
of 1818—" First Sketch of English Literature," 66.
QUERIES:— Sir Joshua Reynolds: Miss Day: Mrs. Day-
Topography (Gloucestershire) — "Like" as a Conjunction —
Poplar Wood, 67— "News from New England " — " Yule's
Gird" — Monk Lewis— The Four of Clubs— The Poet Cowper
"Trooper" — Tipteerers — Old London — Anthem: Ant-
hymn — Portraits in Crayons — The Cartularies of the
Abbeys of Vale Royal Norton, Birkenhead, and Combermere,
Chester— Ashley Cowper — Tiovulftngacaestir, 68 — Turpin,
Archbishop of Rheims— Dr. Isaac Barrow (Master of Trinity)
—Sir William Jones, the Orientalist — Early Circulating
Libraries, 69.
REPLIES :— Caspar Hauser, 69— Browning's " Lost Leader,"
71—" Compurgitors," 72— Consecration of Bishop Varlet, 73
—Hart Hall : Hertford College, Oxford — The American
Civil War— Matthew Paris— Family Names given in Baptism,
74 — Paste by Pichler— " To Scribe" — Use of Inverted
Commas— Scottish Family of Edgar, 75 — Sacred Vessels—
"Jacaranda" — "The Fair Concubine," &c. — Earle's
" Philology of the English Tongue "— " The Way Out "—
" Ordeal," 76-" Blind Harry's Wallace "—The First English
Commercial Treaty — Register Books Stamped — "All night
the storm" — The Greek Swallow Song— Mrs. Siddons as a
Sculptor— Mr. Herbert Spencer and the Poker, 77 — Welsh
Language — "Bloody" — Bibliography of Utopias, 73— The
Latin Version of Bacon's "Essays" — Arms of Hungary—
Caser Wine : Carrion— Funeral Garlands— The Violet, the
Napoleonic Flower, 79.
Notes on Books, &c.
FRENCH REVOLUTION, 1792— OFFICIAL
BADGES.
During a recent examination of a parcel of coins
and medals relating to the great Revolution in
France at the close of the eighteenth century, I
eaine across three or four badges, which appear to
have been worn by subordinate officials. I purpose
to describe these, in the hope that I may elicit in-
formation other than I possess respecting such
interesting memorials.
No. 1, of brass gilt, is circular in form, and 2f
inches in diameter ; it has a ring for suspension,
large enough for either chain or ribbon, and pos-
sesses both an obverse and a reverse, like any
medal. The details of the obverse are these :
Within a cable-pattern bordering are the words,
" Service du Conseil des 500 " (In the service of, or
In attendance on, the Council of Five Hundred), sur-
rounding a cap of Liberty, from which emanate
rays of glory, while below the central device is
engraved, on an oblong tablet, the name "De-
inange," doubtless that of the official who won this
badge. The reverse presents to view the caduceus
of Mercury as a centre-piece, round which, within
a cable border, like that on the obverse, runs this
legend, "Tout homme utile est respectable"
(Every useful man is respectable).
I conceive 'that the caduceus ornament indicates
that the original wearer, Citizen D^mange, was a
messenger attached to the Council of Five Hundred,
and as that assembly was created in the year 1795,
the date of this badge may be approximated thereto.
No. 2 is an oval badge, If x If- inches, of brass
or bell-metal, gilt. This badge has been struck
from dies, and is like a medalet, with a loop for
suspension. On the obverse appears a standing
figure of France (?) holding in one hand the fasces,
and in the other the pileus and cap of Liberty.
The figure is placed upon an oblong pedestal, on
which are delineated the open-hand sceptre and
scales of Justice, the mirror of Truth, &c., and the
legend is "Republique Frangaise." The reverse
is formed by a wreath of laurel (?) and oak, sur-
rounding the following inscription, " Action de la
Loi, Tribunal de premiere instance," freely trans-
lated thus, "Law Department, District Inferior
Court." At the foot of the wreath the artist,
Maurisset, has recorded his name ; his work is
clear, and shows trained skill, though not equal to
that of Duvivier, his contemporary. It is pre-
sumable that this badge, like No. 1, was worn by
a subordinate official of the Court named on the
reverse.
No. 3, also an oval badge, of brass or bell-metal,
gilt, in size 2lxlf inches, is unlike the former
examples, in having both sides exactly alike. On
each field is inscribed " Eespect a la Loi," sur-
rounded by an oak-wreath, of fair workmanship.
No indications of any particular tribunal where
this badge was used are given. A duplicate speci-
men differs in being silvered instead of gilt.
So many years have elapsed since I set foot in a
French court of justice, that I cannot tax my
memory with any details of the costume of either
judges, advocates, or of any of the attendants ;
though the period, 1851, being that of the Ee-
public which preceded the Second Empire, may
have given rise to reproductions of old Revolu-
tionary customs and symbols. Perhaps, among the
million who read " N. & Q.," some one may be
found who has gleaned special information upon
the subject of French official badges, and may
be induced to tell us all about them ; whether they
are still worn, or if not, when their use was aban-
doned. CRESCENT.
Wimbledon.
A JACOBITE LETTER.
I have copied the following letter from three
leaves sent me by your correspondent Mr. J. P.
Earwaker, F.S.A., Merton Coll., Oxford. Mr. Ear-
waker writes : —
" I obtained them from an old account book of one John
Cozier, or Cosier, grocer, of Oxford, in which some late
member of the family, living about 1800-1820, had
scribbled various memoranda, and filled it with news-
paper cuttings, &c. I believe the letter thus given has
NOTES AND QUEEIES.
[5th S. I. JAN. 24, 74.
been published somewhere, but where I do not exactly
know."
HARDRIC MORPHYK.
" Coppy of a Letter of one of my Grandfathers to his
son at Colledge.
" Dr. Son, — I receved yours & am so well satisfied with
your conduct on the birth day of that old rump rogue
with an Orange that I have sent you a draught on your
Tutor according to your desire. As long as my son pre-
serves his principles sound I shall not be angry at any
frolicks of youth, provided therefore you never get drunk
but on Holidays, as the Government is pleased to call
them, and toasting the damnation of the rump and con-
fusion unto the day. You may confess yourself freely
without fear of incurring my displeasure. I approve of
the company you keep much, but be sure not to herd
with sons of courtiers for there is no concience or honesty
in them nor will the nation thrive untill the King enjoys
his own again, a health wich I fail not to drink every day
in a bumper and I hope you do the like. I shall never
think I can remind you enough of this matter for I had
rather fee you hanged for your true King than enjoy any
place under this Orange rascal who has undone the nation.
Our family have allways been in the true old cause and
we will live and dye by it Boy. Damn the rump — that
is my motto. Old England will never thrive nor see any
good days untill it is tlioroly roasted. Your Godfather Sr
John dined with me yesterday, he asked kindly after you.
We drunk nine bottles of stum and talked over all matters.
We scarce utterd a word for wich the rascally wigs
would not have hanged us, but I expect no better from
fellows who would pull down the church if they had it in
their power. I hope it will be able to stand in spite of
all their malice and that I shall drink Church and King
as long as I live. You know what King I mean,— God
remove him from the other side of the water where he
now is. Let every man have his own, I say, and I am
sure that is the sentiment of an honest man and of one
who abhors these persecuting rascals who makes men pay
for their conciences, but do thou my boy rather submit to
their power than court their favour for wright is might,
and alltho might may overcome it, it can never be
abolisht. If kings derive their power from Heaven man
can have no just pretence to deprive them of it. Orange,
damn the name, he hath no such wright, we know he was
made by man and consequently his title can not be
deduced from Heaven. Your Tutor informed me you have
been in great apprehension for the Church at Oxford
and we in the cuntry agree it is in danger, but let her
enemies do what they can an honest heart will continue
to drink to her preservation, and while the wigs see the
unalterable determination of our party they will allways
be afraid of executing their wicked purposess. As for
taxes we must expect them whilst the Government is in
such hands and the true King in banishment. A wig, a
Justice of peace, at the sessions the other day had the
Impudence to tell me they were Imposed on by parliment,
but how can that be a parliment wich wants one part of
three of its constitution, nay and that the head? Is not the
head superior to the body and consequently hath not the
King a better wright to Impose takes than Lords and
Commons'? Without a King let wright take place I say
and then we will pay without grumbling, but to be taxed
by a rump, a set of wigs and presbeterians, and fellows
with an Orange in their mouths, I will drink confusion
to them as long as I can stan. However I hope to see
better days and that we may change our health and drink
to our friends openly, for we are assured here by some
Roman Catholic priests, who are honester fellows than
the wigs and may be brought over to go to church in
time, that the french King will do his utmost to restore
us again to our liberties and properties, for wich reason
we allways drink his health and confusion to the rump.
I hope you will do the same at your club at Oxford, for
take it from me as I had it from others that all hopes of
this nation have of being preserved is from that quarter,
indeed there wants no other reason for our drinking him
than that the wigs are his enemies, for nothing can ever
be good for this nation wich these rascals wish well to.
I am sure no one ever suspected me of wishing well to
the pope and yet I would drink his health sooner than I
would a presbeterian I hope you will never converse
with any such, but when you cant meet with true Church
of England Men rather chuse papists, for they are lesa
enemies to our church, and that they would destroy it is
a Lye because the wigs say it, but confusion to them and
may the King enjoy his own again will allways be the
toast of Your Father."
KENTISH EPITAPHS.
1. "H. I. S. Johanes Taylor de Cowling Mtu9
Aiio J5t. 83, 1675." And the same in English
on the other side ; except that John Taylor is
there described as " Husbandman." This epitaph
is cut, the Latin on one side and the English on the
other, in a sound bright beam of oak, about six
feet long. The letters are tall, narrow, sharply in-
cised, and as clean and bold as if they were new.
The beam has evidently run lengthwise along the
grave, and has been fitted into sockets in a head-
post and a foot-post, as the manner is among poorer
folks even now-a-days. John Taylor's grave, how-
ever, has long ago been levelled : for many years
his memorial-beam did duty as a rafter in one of
the old cottages that grew up around the Norman
church of St. Bartholomew, at Rochester. And
now, again, these old cottages are destroyed ; the
church of St. Bartholomew stands out clear, and is
restored ; and John Taylor's beam is §towed away
there, in a small western gallery.
2. "Julia Northampton, 1461." This is a small
black-letter brass in the chancel floor of Hartlip
church. Close to it is —
3. " John Osbourne one of ye Queenes Magestery
Audeytores of the Excheksver decessed the xxi of
May 1577." This, also, is a small black-letter
brass, without figure or coat of arms. The spelling-
is unusually eccentric.
4.—
" I coo & Pine & tfe'er Shall be at Rest
till I come to thee Dearest Sweetest Blest
KEBEKA GREGOR
DAVGHTER OP IOHN OSBORNE ESQ
OF THIS PARISH LYES HERE BVRIED."
This charming epitaph is boldly cut in a large blue
flagstone, in the middle aisle of Hartlip church.
Below it, on the same stone, is the following coat
of arms, in relief on a sunk oval : — Parti per
pale ; dexter, a chevron ( ) between 3 martlets ( ) :
sinister, 1st and 4th, ermine ; 2nd and 3rd, sable,
on a cross or, 5 mullets of the first. Two crests :
the one, a gauntlet displayed ; the other, a demi-
leopard, collared.
5th S. I. JAN. 24, 74.]
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63
5. " To the pious memory of my most deare wife Mary
Coppin (Daughter of Mr. Edward Osborne of this Parishe
Gent:). She dyed in child-bed the day of Christ's Nativity
in the yeare 1636 and of her age 24.
Yet in this narrow circle of her life
She had beene mayd, wife, widdow, & a wife :
All perfect peeces, but like Patterns showne,
That her good might be others as her owne.
Here Frvit of age w1 yovth's sweete Blossoms grew :
Beavty made virtve fayre, that, virtve trve :
And having so with wisdome crownd her Dayes,
That Time covld not have added to her prayse,
She 'a call'd to Heav'n, with Angells there to sing
The joyfull Tidings which this Daye did bring.
Here ends her Trovble : & here end ovr strife,
Dvty is paid with Death, and Love with Life.
Thomas Coppin."
Mrs. Coppin (felix opportunitate mortis) lies in
the chancel of Hartlip church. Her epitaph appears
in gilt letters on a handsome mural monument.
The next four epitaphs, all of them from Iwade
churchyard, reflect the style of the later eighteenth
century as closely as that of Mary Coppin reflects
the Jacobean. The first two of them are of
unusual merit ; and it will be seen that they
all relate to one and the same family, and all
(though they cover a period of forty-five years)
seem to come from the same hand. The Craydens,
I believe, are, or were, farmers in the parish of
Iwade.
6. (On "William Crayden, aged 5 months, and
Eleanor Park Crayden, aged 3 years. 1811): —
'' Go then, dear Babes, where bliss sincere is known ;
Go where to love and to enjoy are one :
Yet take these tears, Mortality's relief,
And, till I share your joy, forgive my grief :
ACADEMY OF ANTIENT MUSIC.
Account of Money paid to the Band and Singers
employed for the Season 1787-8.
Qualities. Sums. Names.
Rep. Violin 6 0 0 Wm. Thos. Wilcox.
Counter Tenor 660 Wm. Wilson.
Hautboy 660 J. C. Luck.
Drum 1212 0 John Asbridge.
Rep. Violin 660 Fk. Js. Messing (?).
Alto Voice 6 6 0 John Parker.
Alto Voice 660 Thos. Walker.
Tenor Voice 3 0 0 W.Clark.
Double Bass 660 G. Smart.
Trumpet and Horn 900 Thos. Attwood.
Bass Voice 19 5 0 J. Sale.
Do 660 J. Sale, for my father,
J. Sale, senr.
Do 660 Jas. Saunders.
Principal Singers ... 63 0 0 Misses Abrams, by Re-
ceipt.
Principal 2nd Violin 12 12 0 W. Napier, by Do.
Principal 1st Violin '67 16 0 Barthelemon, by Do.
Hautboy 5 10 0 Jo. Heinnitz.
Do 660 James Lowe.
Violoncello 600 G. Likes.
Bass Voice 4 14 6 Wm. Boyce.
Do 2 15 0 Robt. Didsbury.
Tenor Voice 6 6 0 G. Aylmer.
Counter Tenor 4 10 0 Wm. Shrubsole.
Rep. Violin 600 Richd. Chapman.
Trumpet 600 Hezekiah Canteo.
Tenor Voice 9 0 0 J. Paul Hobler.
Double Bass 12 12 0 James Billington.
Rep. Violin 440 W.English.
Horns 12 12 0 Thos. Leander, for his
sons.
Counter Tenor 21 0 0 J. Gore.
Tenor Voice 6 0 0 Miles Coyle.
'Tis all a Father, all a Friend, can give."
7. (On Esther Crayden, aged 4 years. 1816) : —
" Beneath, a sleeping Infant lies,
To Earth whose Body lent
More glorious shall hereafter rise,
But not more innocent :
When the Archangel's Trump shall blow
And Souls to Bodies join,
Millions shall wish their lives below
Had been as short as thine."
8. (On Hester, wife of William Crayden, aged 78.
1854) :—
•" How strangely fond of life poor mortals be !
Who, that shall see this Bed, would change with me ?
Yet, gentle Reader, tell me which is best,
The toilsome Journey, or the traveller's rest.''
9. (On William Crayden, aged 91. 1856):—
*' Time, which had silver'd long my hoary head.
At length has ranged me with the peaceful dead.
One hint, gay Youth, from Dust and Ashes borrow :
My days were many; thine may end tomorrow."
It is only necessary to add that each of these nine
epitaphs was copied by me on the spot, except that
of John Taylor, which I wrote down a few hours
after seeing it. ARTHUR J. MUNBT.
Inner Temple.
Do 4 10 0 W. Thomson, by order
of Richardson.
Rep. Violin 4 4 0 Jno. Tentum.
Do 440 Jno. Fentum, for Mr.
Hobbs.
Do 660 G.French.
Double Bass 6 0 0 John Philepot.
Rep. Violin 6 6 0 Martin Schram.
Do 660 Christopher Schram.
Hautboy 600 Elisha Manessier.
Bassoon 6 0 0 J. Holmes.
Counter Tenor 4 10 0 Ja. Horsfall.
PrincipalVioloncello 12 12 0 Ch. F. Eley.
Bass Voice 660 Thos. Smart.
Do 660 J. Danby.
Counter Tenor 6 6 0 J. Danby, for J. Gui-
chard.
Rep. Violoncello ... 4 10 0 J. B. Adams.
Tenor Voice 660 Jon. Page.
Do 660 J. W. Callcott.
Do 4 10 0 Thos. Costellow.
Bass Voice 660 Wm. Lenton.
Counter Tenor 717 6 W. Rennoldson.
Rep. Violin 660 J. Fisin.
Conductor and Boys 52 10 0 Ben. Cooke,
Tenor Violin 2 10 0 John Immyns.
Principal do. .. 9 0 0) T i T.-T j
Serjt. Trumpet 0 12 0 } John Richards-
Tenor Voice 5 0 0 James Bartle man
Rep. Violin... 600 Alex. Scouler.
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[5th S. I. JAN. 24, 74.
Bassoon
6 0
6 0
4 4
•, for self
Tenor .. 4 4 0|
Violin .................. 4 4 OJ
Tenor .................. 600 J.A.Oliver.
Bassoon ............... 4 4 0 W. Jenkinson.
Violin .................. 440 Albert Innes, for Wood-
cock, Laving paid the
same to Mrs. Wood-
cock.
Bass Voice ............ 1212 0 J. Webbe.
Tenor Voice ......... 6 6 0 Per W. Webbe, for S.
Webbe, junr.
B. B.
EDWARD III.'s MINSTRELS IN 1360-61. — Their
names are given (in the dative case) in the Eoll of
accounts of cloth for robes given them (34-35 Edw.
III., 391) as :—
" Hanekino filz Libekyn, Piper : Hernekyn, Piper ;
Lambekyn, Taborer; Oyli, Piper,- Wilh'eimo Hardyng,
Piper; Petro, Clarioner ,- Yhilippo, Trumpour; Johanni
de Hamptone, Trumpour ; Nichofoo, Trumpour ; Rogero
Fromward, Trumpour; Petro de Roos, Trumpour;
Gerardo, Piper; Roberto Fol (=fool), Bourdour
(jester); Petro, Comhere (?) ; NichoJao, Fidelere ; Petro,
Sauterer ; and Magwfro Joha?i)ii, Wafrere ; MinistralKs
domini Re</is."
The King's Henxmen have their nicknames, I
suppose, as two are entered as "Mustard & Garlek" ;
three others as "Clays, Fige, & Vynegre." Chaucer's
name is not in this Eoll, so that he probably did not
then belong to Edward III.'s household.
F. J. FURNIVALL.
THE FLAG OF ENGLAND. — Under a late Admi-
ralty order, Englishmen in Spain are deprived of
the right of placing their own national flag on their
houses. It is only to be borne on land by consuls,
say they, but on the sea may be borne by the
merchant's craft. Considering for how many cen-
turies St. George's Cross, the flag that braved a
thousand years the battle and the breeze, has
waved over the factories of our merchants in east
and west, the subject is one well worthy of inves-
tigation in " N. & Q." H. C.
" MOUSQUETAIRES " AND " CARABINIERS." —
Perhaps to many persons the origin of these corps
may not be so well known as their names. Bran-
tome's description of them forms one of the most
graphic sketches to be found in his amusing
Memoires. He says, speaking of the Spaniard
Alba, that when he went to suppress the revolt of
the Flemings, known as "Les Gueux," he took
with him only —
" Dix mil homines de pied, tous vieux et aguerris sol-
dats, tant bien en point d'habillemens et armes, la plus
part dorees, et 1'autre de gravees, qu'on les prenoit
plustost pour Capitaines, que pour soldats : et il fut le
premier qui leur donna en main des gros mousquets, et
que 1'on vit les premiers en guerre et parmy- les com-
pagnies : et n'en avions point veu encore parmy leurs
bandes (Spanish), lorsque nous allasmes pour le secours
de Malte, dont depuis nous en avons pris usage parmy
nos bandes (French), mais avec de grandes difficultez a
y accoustumer nos soldats. Et ces mousquets estonnerent
forts les Flamans, quand ils les sentirent sonner & leurs
oreilles; car ils n'en avoient veu non plus que nous
(French) ; et ceux qui les portoient on les nommoit mous-
quetaires, tres-bien appointez et respectez, jusques a
avoir de grands et forts gojats, qui les leur portoient,
avoient quatre ducats de paye, et ils ne les leur portoient
qu'en cheminant par pays ; mais quand ce venoit en une
faction, ou marchans en bataille, ou entrans en garde ou
en quelque ville, ils les prenoient. Et vous eussiez dit
que c'estoient des Princes, tant ils etoient rogues, efc
marchoient arrogamment et de belle grace ; et d 1'occasion
de quelque combat ou escarmouche, vous eussiez oiiy
crier ces mots par grand respect : Salgan Salgan los
mosqueteros afuera afuera, adelante los mosqueteros.
" Soudain on leur faisoit place, et etoient respectez, vnire
plus que Capitaines pour lors, a cause de la nouveaute,
ainsi que toute nouveaute plaist."
Brantome next speaks thus of the Carabiniers : —
"Le grand Prieur, Dom Hernand son fils bastard,
estoit General de la Cavalerie, composee de quatorze
compagnies de Lanciers, et quatre d'Harquebusiers &
cheval, que depuis on a appelles paimy eux et nous
Carabins?'
To complete the picture Brantome adds: —
" De plus il y avoit quatre cents courtisanes & cheval,
belles et braves comme Princesses ; et huit cents & pied,
bien a point aussi."
No wonder the Flemings fared so badly.
RALPH N. JAMES.
Ashford, Kent.
UNACCOUNTABLE SOUNDS.— On the evening of
the 18th Aug., 1873, sitting in my library, with
two friends, our conversation was brought to a
momentary pause by a very singular and curious-
noise. Having formerly read (in some ghostly
treatise) of a sound which, from its description,
seemed to be like that we heard, I rose and went
to the window, taking a candle as it was dark
outside. "Did you hear that noise?" I said.
" Certainly," they replied ; and one added, " was it
an owl?" " Here is the explanation— look." They
came to the window ; and we found passing over
the centre of the pane a large snail, possibly at-
tracted by the light, for the curtains were not
drawn. Had I been alone at the time, I have no
hesitation in saying I should have been considerably
startled, the sound was so loud, clear, and so-
unusual. I wetted my finger, and rubbed it over
the pane, producing exactly the same moaning
sound. Many such noises, apparently unaccount-
able, and calculated to alarm the nervous and super-
stitious, might certainly be as well explained in a
perfectly natural way, if, as on this occasion, prompt
examination were made. A. E.
Almondbury*
" BLACK-A-VIZED." — An instance of the import-
ance of knowing provincial words occurred during
the trial of the atrocious Newtown Stewart mur-
derer. A woman swore that she had seen the
accused come out of the bank and walk down the
5:h S. 1. JAN. 24, 74.]
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65
street. In describing him she said he was black-
avized. The cross-examining counsel asked how
could she see, at that distance, that he was " black-
of-eyes." Neither the counsel nor the judge knew
that the Scotch call a black-haired, dark-com-
plexioned man " blackavized." The Ulster people
dislike persons of that complexion. The word
occurs in the beautiful story of JRab and his
Friends. S. T. P.
LORD BYRON IN SCOTLAND. — In the Life of
Dr. Guthrie, the late popular Scotch minister, we
have the following relation : —
" A sister of Dr. Guthrie used to tell how, sitting one
afternoon by the window long ago, she observed a youth-
ful stranger who had emerged from the coach, walk
down the street (at Brechin, Forfarshire), leaning on the
arm of another gentleman. His appearance irresistibly
awakened her curiosity. ' What a handsome man! ' she
exclaimed, as she summoned the rest of the family
group to the window ; ' but how sad that he is lame.' It
was not till the coach had resumed its journey to
Aberdeen she learned that the man thus admired was
Lord Byron."
The lady was misinformed, and the authors of
the Memoir should have said so. Byron never
was in Scotland after he had left it in 1798, in his
eleventh year, to take possession of the seat of his
ancestors. C.
AN HISTORICAL ELEPHANT. — In a recent Indian
paper we read that Lord Northbrook has lately
made a public entiy into Agra, seated on the same
elephant which, since 1797, has borne Sir J. Shore,
Lord Wellesley, Lord Hastings, and all the other
Governors-General of our Indian possession down to
the present time. As in 1797, to take a part in
such an imposing ceremony as the public entry of
a Governor-General into the second city of the old
Mogul empire, the elephant would be at least
twenty-five years old, it follows that now he must
be at least a centenarian.
Munster, in his Cosmogony, says, " Elephants
are long lived; they have great pleasure in good
waters, are very impatient of cold, and many of
them live almost 2(X) years." If the elephant in
question is of a good constitution, he may, like
Macaulay's New Zealander, survive to contemplate
the ruins of our Indian empire from a broken plat-
form on the remains of the Agra Central India
Railway Station.
However this may be, allow me to throw out in
your pages the suggestion that, in case of his death
within any reasonable historical period, that his
skeleton should be carefully preserved and de-
posited either ia the East India Museum or the
national one in Bloomsbury.
G. C. HALL,
Surgeon, Indian Medical Service.
Peshawur.
ABBOTSFORD, IN 1825. — Among some old papers
now before me is a memorandum of the annual
value of the estate of Abbotsford. It is marked
"Abbotsford Valuation at Walter's Marriage,
1825." A great number ofpendicles, or small por-
tions, are specified, but they are classed under the
following heads : —
Toftfield £383 15
Shearing Flats 35 0
Crabtree and Gutter 1710
Cole Yards 9 0
Woodpark 13 10
Broomilees 120 0
Kaeside 104 6
Abbotslee 86 3
Abbotsford 59 10
Four hundred acres of wood, the ,
greater part more than 5 years old ;
average, 20s. per acre ... ... 400 0
Add Abbotsford House, Garden, and
offices
£1,228 14
200 0
Total £1,428 14
The above seems worthy of preservation, as
Lockhart, in his Life of Scott, gives no such detailed
information. C.
Inverness.
BODY-SNATCHING. — The following note is from
a copy of the Universal Spectator and Weekly-
Journal for Saturday, May 20, 1732 : —
" John Loftas, the Grave-digger, committed to Prison-
for robbing of dead corpse, (sic), has confess'd to the
Plunder of above Fifty, not only of their Coffins and
Burial-Cloaths (sic) but of their Fat, where Bodies
afforded any, which he retail'd at a high Price to certain
People, who, it is believ'd, will be call'd upon on Account
thereof. Since this Discovery several Persons have had
their Friends dug up, who were found quite naked, and
some mangled in so horrible a Manner as could scarcely
be suppos'd to be done by a human Creature."
JNO. A. FOWLER.
55, London Road, Brighton.
BARHAM'S LINES ON DEAN IRELAND. — About
thirty years ago, I heard a friend repeat some
satirical lines, written by Barham (Thomas In-
goldsby), upon Dean Ireland of Westminster
and his Bed. Riband of the Bath, all of which
had escaped my memory save the first and last
couplets. In 3rd S. vi. p. 424, I asked if any
reader could furnish a copy of them ; but my
query remains unanswered. I believe I can now
answer my own inquiry, under circumstances some-
what analogous and almost as remarkable as those
under which Coleridge wrote Christabel.
In the course of an extraordinary dream, in
which I fancied myself acting the part of Cicerone
to a distinguished personage, when making a sort
of Haroun Al Kaschid peregrination of West-
minster, we visited the Abbey ; and in reply to an
observation of mine, my companion said that
Barham did not belong to Westminster. I said
no ; probably Dean Ireland would not appoint him,
and that may have led to Barham's lines upon
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[5th S. I. JAN. 24, 74.
him, which I then repeated as follows, and,
stranger still, recollected on waking : —
" Oh Peter, if thou beest the Peter,
And for the office none were meeter,
Who dost of Heaven's gate keep the key, —
If You should ever chance to see
From out your starryfied abode
Some Reverend Dean coming your road,
Oh straight clap to the door and lock it,
The key put in your breeches pocket,
And leaning o'er the wicket, say,
' Good Mister Dean, You have lost your way ;
Nobody here Red Riband wears,
So please walk down them area stairs.' "
D. L.
HEALTHY PROFESSION. — It may be worthy a
record in " N. & Q." that in the parish of Great
Catworth, Hunts, William Bunbury, B.D., was
rector there upwards of forty years, dying in 1748,
aged eighty-two ; Matthew Haddock, M.A., was
rector forty years, dying (it is said by suicide) in
1848 ; Thomas Evanson, M.A., was rector forty-
seven years, dying in 1835 ; and Eichard Latham,
M.A., was rector thirty-seven years, dying 1873.
Thus, during the long period of 164J years, there
were only four incumbents of this living. The
parish is situated on a hill, and is generally healthy ;
there have been several deaths, recorded in the
churchyard, past eighty, and two past ninety, one
considerably so. The late rector once, some years
ago, remarked to the writer that his parish was
"ridiculously healthy," there not having been,
during the past year, a single death, out of upwards
of 600 people. The living belongs to Brasenose
College, Oxon. The same gentleman also told me
of a parish in Cheshire (of which county he was a
native), in which the curate and clerk had between
them fifty children. He did not name the parish.
T. P. F.
" SCRIP " FOR " LETTER." — When a boy it was a
common thing for me to hear that the postman
had brought a scrip, but it is a local word in Kent,
which I think is now quite in disuse. Last week
I received a letter, in which an old gentleman says,
" I sent you a ' scrip ' at once, to thank you for the
parcel, and now write more fully." F. S. A.
Twickenham.
A HOROSCOPE OF 1818. — In a volume of old
almanacs for 1818 I find a loose fragment of paper,
on which is the horoscope of
" Miss Davis,
Born
November 6,
8h. 10 P.M.,
1818."
A small portion of it is torn, but it looks very
learned ; and if the lady whose horoscope is cast is
still alive, and reads " N. & Q.," perhaps she would
like to see it. Pasted in the fly-leaf of the volume
is this note, in pencil : — " Eichard Lewis was born
at half-past 3 o'clock on Saturday evening, the 17th
day of October, 1818." MORTIMER COLLINS.
Knowl Hill, Berks.
" FIRST SKETCH OF ENGLISH LITERATURE."—
This work, by Professor Henry Morley (published
by Cassell, Petter & Galpin, in a thick duodecimo
volume), contains a vast amount of biographical
and historical information compressed into the
smallest possible space. It is of the nature of
Murray's Handbooks, and will be as useful to the
student as Murray is to the traveller. In the
thousands of references — dates, names, &c. — errors
were inevitable, and the Professor, I have no
doubt, like Mr. Murray, will thank any reader to
point out such oversights or misprints, so that
ultimately we may have a thoroughly trustworthy
literary guide-book. As a commencement I have
noted a few, as follows : —
George Buchanan (p. 403). — Buchanan was sixty, not
fifty years of age, when made Principal of the University
of St. Andrews. His pupil, the Regent Moray, was
assassinated in 1570, not 1670.
Sir John Suckling (p. 546). — Suckling is said to have
died of a wound in the heel, a servant who had robbed
him having put a penknife into his boot. But, instead
of this improbable story, Aubrey states that the poet
took poison in Paris, and family tradition corroborates
the statement (see Memoir by Rev. Alfred Suckling,
1836).
Cowley (p. 548) was not the son of a grocer, but of a
stationer, who, by will, left 1401. apiece to his six
children, and the same sum to his then unborn son, the
poet (Johnson's Lives, by Cunningham, and Notes and
Queries).
Milton (p. 604). — " In 1654 gradual loss of sight ended
in Milton's complete blindness." He was wholly blind
in 1652. The letter recommending Marvell as assistant
secretary is dated February 21, 1652, old style, or 1653.
This letter (which is not in Milton's handwriting) was
undoubtedly addressed to Bradshaw, not Cromwell, and
in it Milton recommends Marvell as "an able servant,"
not "an humble servant."
Milton's Third Wife (p. 642).—" Milton again married.
He was then fifty-four years old, and his third wife was
Elizabeth, daughter of Sir Edward Minshull, of Cheshire.
Her age must have been little more than twenty."
Elizabeth Milton was daughter of Mr. Randle Minshull,
of Wistaston, near Nantwich. She was baptized De-
cember 30, 1638, married February 11, 1662-3, died
October, 1727.
De Foe (p. 728). — "Daniel Foe, after the battle of
Marston Moor, had left England." The battle of Marston
Moor was fought in 1644. Foe, or De Foe, as he after-
wards wrote his name, was not born before 1661. As
Daniel, in the hot blood of youth, joined in Monmouth's
insurrection, " Marston Moor " is probably a slip of the
pen for Sedgmoor. It is added (p. 800) that Defoe retired
from political strife in 1715; but it appears from Lee's
Daniel Defoe, 1869, and Notes and Queries, that Defoe
was actively engaged in 1718, and, presumably, long after-
wards, in writing in certain political journals of that time.
Congreve (p. 761). — "Congreve was of a Staffordshire
family, and born in 1672." Congreve was born at
Bardsey, in the West Riding of Yorkshire, and baptized
February 10, 1669-70. " In 1693, at the age of twenty-
one, produced .... at Drury Lane, his play of the Old
Bachelor." He was then twenty-three.
5l" S. I. JAN. 24, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
67
Gay (p. 790).—" In 1713 he published his first poem
Rural Sports, a Georgic." His first poem was in th
style of Milton, entitled Wine, and published in 1708.
Collins (p. 841).— "AVilliam Collins, born 1720." H
was born on Christmas-day, 1721 (Aldine Poets, 1858).
A LITERARY IDLER.
[We must request correspondents desiring informatio
on family. matters of only private interest, to affix thei
names and addresses to their queries, in order that th
answers may be addressed to them direct.]
SIR JOSHUA EEYNOLDS : Miss DAY : MRS
DAY. — In the Life and Times of Sir J. Reynolds
by Leslie and Tom Taylor, "Lists of Sitters" t<
Sir Joshua for portraits are given, " so far as thej
can be ascertained from his pocket-books." Amon
them the following appear : page 155, in list fo
January, 1757, Miss Day (afterwards Lady Fe
noulhet) ; page 176, in list for January, 1759, Mrs
Day; page 186, in list for January, 1760, Mis
Day. Is the Miss Day of January, 1757, and o
January, 1760, one and the same person, or ar<
they two distinct persons, which would appear
possible from there being an interval of three years
between the sittings 1 In the Index, however, these
two dates are placed against Miss Day, as if one
person only was meant. If one person only, do these
two dates imply that two distinct portraits were
painted of her, and if so, where are they now (one
is in the possession of the Baring family), and have
both been engraved (McArdell and others engraved
the one in the Baring Gallery) 1
Was Mrs. Day any relative or connexion 1 What
was her Christian name, and where is her portrait
now? Was she, or was she related to, the Mrs.
Day who was the mistress of Richard Lord Edge-
cumbe, Walpole's friend (see Walpole's Letters,
Cunningham's edition, i. p. Ixxi., ii. pp. 28, 34) ?
Where can I .find information as to the birth,
parentage and education of Miss Day, afterwards
Lady Fenoulhet, and where and when did she die ?
CHARLES MASON.
3, Gloucester Crescent, Hyde Park, W.
TOPOGRAPHY (GLOUCESTERSHIRE). — At Church-
down, near Cheltenham, in the immediate neigh-
bourhood of the ancient camp (British or Roman,
for authorities are divided), there are several places
with peculiar names. These lie chiefly on the
slopes leading to the encampment, and invite an
examination, which some of your readers may be not
unwilling to afford ; some, indeed, may recognize
these names at once, or, at any rate, throw on them
the light of research. They are as follow : —
Kaibrane. A hollow approach, or natural covert
way.
Bloody Man's Acre.
Mur.de Well. The ancient well, near an ex-
cavated covert way.
Break Heart. A steep ascent.
Green Street. A Roman road that runs round the
southern side of Churchdown Hill, and gives into
the great Roman way leading from Gloucester to
Cirencester (Corinium.)
Soldiers' Walk. Tradition says that, at the
siege of Gloucester, there was a battery thrown up
here, armed with guns in position to command the
city.
Now, these names, here spelt phonetically, as
they are now pronounced by the country people,
may be safely referred to the time of the Civil
War, or later, with the exception of Katbrane^
Muzzle, and Green Street. Of these the latter speaks
for itself, and it only remains to note for elucidation,
and discussion the remaining words, Katbrane and
Muzzle, on which I shall be glad to have any in^
formation.
Whilst on the subject of names, I may mention
as worth recording some others, applied "to places
in the parish of Churchdown, but not near the
encampment or connected with it. They are the
Zoons, the Lynch, the Crump, and the Nymph ;
Gospel Ash also, which requires no comment.
F. S.
Churchdown.
" LIKE " AS A CONJUNCTION. — Can any reader
give me instances, early or late, of like only, used
as a conjunction, with the verb expresst 1 A very
high authority lately scolded me for so using the
word, in print and speaking, as in " like he did,"
&c., and declared that this use was quite modern,
had come up only of late years, and was a wrong
use, since as was the right word. An instance,
which I thought in my favour, and which is quoted
ay Mr. T. S. K. Oliphant, in his excellent little
)ook, The Sources of Standard English, from Prof.
March's Anglo-Saxon Grammar,
" Elpenes hyd drinca% wcetan gelice and spingc de%,
Elephant's hide soaks-up water like as a sponge does,"
s against me ; for, as Mr. Henry Sweet says,
gelice is an adverb, and and the conjunction, as in
Tiatin " similiter ac." The question is, then, when
[id like drop the as, if it was followed by a verb ?
n the translation of the Bible, " The lion shall eat
traw like the ox " [eats straw], like must be a con-
unction, but the verb is not expresst. There must
iave been a confusion between the prepositional
se of like=like to, resembling (" I, like him, am a
lan"), and the conjunctival use in which like=
ike as. We want a series of quotations to clear
tie point. F. J. FURNIVALL.
POPLAR WOOD. — I append a clipping from the
Garden, which would lead us to suppose that this
rood can resist the action of fire. Perhaps some
f your readers can verify the statement : —
" Many despise poplar as a timber, but it has one
olden quality — it will not burn. Some years ago a
actory at Nottingham took fire on the second floor, and
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5th S. I. JAN. 24, 74.
burnt out to the top furiously, but not downwards ;
although the floors lay a yard thick with hot clinkers and
melted machinery, yet it did not get downwards, because
the floors were of poplar."
H. H. F.
" NEWS FROM NEW ENGLAND." — In New Eng-
land's Faction Discovered, by C. D. (London), 1690,
it is stated to be " An Answer to a Pamphlet
entitled News from New England," &c., and I am
most anxious to see a copy of the latter tract.
This News from New England is said to be
lately published ; and from comments on it, must
have contained — 1. A charge that Andres's com-
mission was illegal and arbitrary. 2. That the war
with the Indians was encouraged by Sir E. A. 3.
That the Declaration of the Prince of Orange was
kept back from the people. 4. That unlawful
taxes were levied. 5. That the Indians had done
great harm to the eastward. 6. An account of a
fight with the Indians by the troops under Benjamin
Church. 7. That the Indians say that they were
.encouraged by some people in Boston. 8. A story
.about Mohawks, Jesuits, and an eclipse of the sun.
.9. Probably some notice of troops being sent to
Albany. Can any of your readers, from the
. above description, identify the News and tell me
where a copy can be seen ?
W. H. WHITMORE.
Boston, U.S.A.
" YULE'S GIRD." — A few years ago, on a Christ-
mas morning, I heard a baby cry, and its nurse
thereupon exclaim, "Baby's broken yule's gird!"
Can any one explain the phrase 1 I may mention
that the nurse was most probably of Scandinavian
descent, as she belonged to the fishing population
of the north-east coast of Scotland.
NORMAN-SCOT.
MONK LEWIS. — Where is a pedigree of the
family of Matthew Gregory Lewis to be found ?
' To what family of Lewis do the following arms
'. belong — Azure, a chev. argent between 3 garbs. . 1
S.
THE FOUR OF CLUBS. — Why is this card called
the worst in the pack ? In times gone by it was
also satirically called by the name of one of the
masters of a college in Cambridge, long since
dead. S. N.
Ryde.
[See 3"1 S. i. 223.]
THE POET COWPER: "TROOPER." — I have heard
that the pronunciation of the name of the poet
Cowper as " Cooper" is supported by its being
rhymed with " trooper." Is this so or not, and i:
so, where is the couplet or stanza to be found 1
E. B.
TIP-TEERERS. — Can any one explain the meaning
or derivation of this word ? My mother tells me
that fifty years ago Christmas mummers were so
called at and about Midhurst. The word does
not seem to be at present known in this more
eastern part of Sussex. It is, of course, only pho-
netically written.
CHARLES F. S. WARREN, M.A.
OLD LONDON. — The premises now in the pos-
session of Messrs. Fourdrinier, Hunt &' Co.,
wholesale stationers, No. 12, Sherborne Lane, King
William Street, London Bridge, were, I believe,
originally occupied as an inn. Can you give me
any idea as to date when such was the case, and
by what name the house was designated ?
W. WRIGHT.
ANTHEM : ANTHYMN. — Johnson gives — "A
hymn sung in parts, and should therefore be
written anthyrnn." Has it at any time been cus-
tomary to write the word in this way, and if so,
when 'I In Canterbury Tales antiphone is used.
WM. MILLIGAN.
PORTRAITS IN CRAYONS. — I have two remark-
ably fine portraits in crayons, probably painted by
John Russell or Francis Cotes. On the frame of
one was written "Charlotte daughter of
Duke of ." Can any one help me to identify
this portrait 1 W. ABERCROMBIE.
Bradford.
THE CARTULARIES OF THE ABBEYS OF VALE
EOYAL NORTON, BIRKENHEAD, AND COMBER-
MERE, CHESTER. — Can any of your correspondents
kindlv inform me where these are to be found?
H. T.
ASHLEY COWPER.— This Ashley Cowper was
clerk of parliaments, barrister-at-law, and died
1788, leaving three daughters. I desire the name
and county of his wife. " NEPHRITE.
TIOVULFINGACAESTIR. — This name occurs in
Bedaj Hist. Eccl., II. cap. 16, as the name of a
" civitas," near which Bishop Paulinus baptized a
great multitude in the river Trent. The learned
editor of Mon. Hist. Brit, gives various readings —
Tuilf-, Tuisf-, Tulf-, Uulf-. The third book oe
Henry of Huntingdon's Histories, which contains
the same narrative almost word for word, is
omitted in the Mon. Hist., because for general
purposes it adds nothing to Bede ; so that we have
not the benefit of the editor's collation of MSS.
In Sir H. Saville's collection of writers after Bede
CFrankfort edition), we have the name spelt
" Fingecester," with another reading in the margin,
" Tiowlfingacestre." A learned friend consulted
for me the MS. (13 B. VI.) in the British Museum,
and reports that the original word has been
carefully erased, not crossed out, and at the side is
written, in darker ink and a different hand,
Fingecestre. The other MSS. of this author
<" S. I. JAN. 24, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
69
mentioned in the preface to Mon. Hist. Brit., are —
(A) MS. Norfolk, Arundel, vellum, No. 48
(B) MS. Grosvenor, vellum, in small folio
(C) MS. in the Library of Corpus Christi College
Cambridge, No. CCLXXX., quarto. Will any o
your correspondents, having access to one of thes<
MSS., kindly give the spelling of this name I I
occurs a little after the middle of Book III., in thi
account of the baptism by Paulinus in the Trent.
E. F. SMITH.
Southwell.
TURPIN, ARCHBISHOP OF EHEIMS. — "Couni
Irlois," Spanish Ballads, vol. i. p. 261, translatec
byS. Eodd, 1812: —
" No one peace would make between 'em,
Not a noble interfer'd ;
None but good Archbishop Turpin
In this generous cause appear'd.
Turpin, royal Charles's nephew,
Lord High Cardinal of France,
He alone this friendly office
Strives sincerely to advance."
How is Bishop Turpin supposed to have been
the nephew of Char-le-Magne, as above stated 1
E.
DR. ISAAC BARROW (MASTER OF TRINITY). —
Will any one assist me in tracing the pedigree oi
Isaac Barrow's relatives during the years 1630 —
1750 ? Did Barrow, Bp. of S. Asaph, ever
marry? G. F. BARROW, M.A.
Temple Club, Strand.
SIR WILLIAM JONES, THE ORIENTALIST. — Had
he a sister who married a Mr. Pinnel 1 What
was her second husband's name ? Any other par-
ticulars respecting her that may be known will
oblige. BRENDA.
EARLY CIRCULATING LIBRARIES. — Kirkman, at
all events, kept one as early as 1661, as appears
from a note of his at the end of the Thracian
Wonder :—
" If any gentlemen please to repair to my house afore-
said, they may be furnished with all manner of English
or French histories, romances, or poetry, which are to be
sold, or read for reasonable considerations."
Is there any more ancient notice of a circulating
library in this country ? J. 0. HALLIWELL.
CASPAR HAUSER.
(4th S. xii. 325, 414, 478.)
The first book with which I am acquainted, de-
voted to an investigation of the circumstances con-
nected with this extraordinary and mysterious
character, proceeded from the pen of the illustrious
Bavarian State Counsellor, P. J. Anselm von
Feuerbach, who died at Frankfort, in the summer
of 1833. The title of the volume, which was his
last production, is : " Kaspar Hauser. Beispiel
eines Verbrechens am Seelenleben des Menschen.
Anspach, 1832. 8vo."
This memoir, which was drawn up for Queen
Caroline of Bavaria, and of which a later edition
was published at Altona, was translated into Eng-
lish, in the same year, under the title of Caspar
Hauser. An Account of an Individual kept in a
Dungeon, separated from all communication with
the world, from early Childhood to about the age of
Seventeen. Drawn up from Legal Documents.
London, 1832. 8vo."
A second edition of this appeared in 1833, with
further details from a pamphlet by Professor
Daumer, — from a narrative by the subject of the
memoir, — and from an essay by Schmidt von
Liibec, containing many additional particulars. A
portrait, which was also to be obtained separately,
was prefixed to the volume. I have also before me
the third edition (1834, 8vo., pp. 212), which
appears to be a reprint of its predecessor.
For this English version, it is well to add, we
are indebted to the pen of a German gentleman,
Hennin Gottfried Linberg, who also translated
from the French Victor Cousin's Introduction to
the History of Philosophy.
A translation from the same original may also
be found in the Penny Magazine for February,
1834. Nos. 118, 119, and 120.
It is worthy of note that Von Feuerbach dedi-
cated his essay to Earl Stanhope, who had adopted
the unfortunate youth, and provided for his sup-
port ; and this in terms so beautiful and touching,
that I am sure they will be read with pleasure by
those who may not have the volume in which they
are to be found: —
"To the Rt. Hon. Earl Stanhope, &c., &c., &c.
' To no one could this Dedication have been addressed
with greater propriety than to your Lordship ; in whose
person Providence has appointed to the youth, without
childhood and boyhood, a paternal friend and powerful
protector. Beyond the sea, in fair old England, you have
prepared for him a secure retreat, until the rising sun of
;ruth shall have dispersed the darkness which still hangs
over his mysterious fate, and perhaps, in the remainder of
lis half murdered life, he may yet hope for days, for the
sake of which, he will no longer regret his having seen
lie light of this world. For such a deed, none but the
;enius of Humanity can recompense TOtr.
" In the vast desert of the present time, when the
icarts of individuals are more and more shrivelled and
tarched by the fires of selfish passions, to have met once
nore with a real man, is one of the most pleasing an
ndelibly impressive occurrences which have adorned the
evening scenery of my lift.
"With inmost veneration and love,
" I am your Lordship's
"Most obedient servant,
" VON FEUERBACH^
The death of this eminent jurist took place in th
ear succeeding the publication of his memoir, and
while he was still interested in the investigation of
be dark story of its subject. The suddenness of the
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event, and the peculiar circumstances which at-
tended it, suggested foul play on the part of certain
persons supposed to be interested in the suppres-
sion of the truth. A friend of my own, a German
gentleman holding an official position, has told me
that he was informed by one of the accomplished
daughters of Von Feuerbach, that it was the firm
belief of herself and the other members of her
family that the death of their distinguished rela-
tive was accomplished by poison, administered at
a place to which he had been summoned on the
pretext of official business. I may also add that
the same friend remembers to have seen Caspar
Hauser in his youth, conversed with him, and
shaken him by the hand. He bears testimony to
the fidelity of the portrait, which accompanies the
memoir.
By dint of careful tuition, aided, as it would
appear, by good-natural abilities, this mysterious
individual had succeeded in attaining a fair amount
of intelligence. He resided at Anspach, where he
had obtained, through the President of the Court
of Appeal, employment in the Registration Office.
In this he was still engaged, when, on December
17, 1833, his brief and unfortunate career was cut
short by the dagger of an unknown assassin. No
trustworthy clue was found for the identification
of the latter ; but it was hardly to be doubted that
he was the same who had made an unsuccessful
attempt in October, 1829. A day or two after the
fatal occurrence, Lord Stanhope arrived at Anspach;
and not the least remarkable part of the whole
affair was the entire change which had now taken
place in the feelings of his lordship towards his
former favourite, and his intense desire to convict
him of imposture and suicide. These positions he
attempted to prove in a volume published then-
abouts at Heidelberg. The matter then slumbered
for awhile, till some five-and-twenty years later it
was revived by Professor Eschricht, of Copen-
hagen, who repeated, and attempted to sub-
stantiate, the charges of Lord Stanhope, but at the
same time rather leaned to the opinion that Hauser
was a person of weak intellect. This led Professor
Daumer, the former tutor of the youth, to take up
his defence, and bring forward a number of facts
which, while they served to increase the mystery
tended strongly to show, that, at all events, the
crime of imposture could not be laid to his charge
An excellent paper on the subject, referring to this
revival of the controversy, and summarizing its
results, will be found in the New Monthly Maga
sine for December, 1860, vol. cxx., p. 184.
The singular, indeed unique, features of the casi
seemed to render it peculiarly fitting for the illus
tration of the principles of the late Robert Owen
Accordingly an essay was put forth by one of hL
disciples, entitled : —
" Caspar Hauser; or the Power of Externa
Circumstances exhibited in forming the Humar
Character. With Remarks by John Green, Social
Missionary for the Liverpool District. Manchester,
ley wood. 8vo. (no date), pp. 36."
In April, 1852, occurred the death of Charles
jeopold Frederick, Grand-Duke of Baden. I can-
lot ask space here to revive and discuss the court
candals and genealogical mysteries of the reigning
ouses of Bavaria and Baden, and the share in
hese to be ascribed to Stephanie Tascher de la
5agerie (niece of Josephine), Madame Geyer von
~eyersberg (afterwards Countess of Hochberg, the
morganatic spouse of the Grand-Duke), the infa-
mous Ludwig, and the officer, Major Hennenhofer,
lis tool and creature. Suffice it to say, that attention
was again drawn to the Caspar Hauser mystery, and
hat hints for its possible elucidation will be found
n the various obituary notices of the personage above
named, notably in the Daily News for April, 1852.
Twenty years later — even at the present day —
nterest in this dark and painful history is not ex-
tinct. I am informed that within the last twelve
months several books or pamphlets have appeared
.n Germany, in which the question has been once
more fully investigated. In them it is contended,
on the one hand, that the unfortunate man was the
result of an illicit amour, and that his father was a
priest ; and on the other, that he was one of the
missing sons of the Grand-Duchess, Stephanie,
who had been spirited away by Ludwig, that he
tiimself might succeed to his father's title. Lastly,
those are not wanting who, following Lord
Stanhope, assert roundly that the man was a mere
impostor ; that the entire story of his early life was a
fabrication, to attract admiration and interest; and
that the wound by which he died was self-inflicted,
either with the object of reviving flagging interest,
and accidentally more serious than intended, or
purposely suicidal, when the burden of imposture
had become too great to be borne.
The interest manifested by Lord Stanhope for
this singular being finds its prototype, more than a
century earlier, in that which was excited in the
mind of Lord Monboddo by Peter the Wild Boy,
also a native of Germany. For further particulars
reference may be made to the Ancient Metaphysics,
or the Science of Universals (Edinburgh, -1779-99-
6 vols., 4to.), of that singular author, or to Wilson's
Wonderful Characters (ed. 1821, vol. ii., p. 152).
The reader may also care to be reminded of the
savage girl found in France about the same period,
and mentioned by Louis Racine in his poem La
Religion; and of an intermediate hero, whose
curious history is sufficiently indicated in the fol-
lowing title of a very interesting little book : —
" An Historical Account of the Discovery and
Education of a Savage Man, or of the First De-
velopments, Physical and Moral, of the Young
Savage caught in the Woods near Aveyron, in the
year 1798. By E. M. Itard, &c. London, 1802.
12mo. pp. 148."
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
71
In the foregoing desultory remarks I have not
pretended to give a complete or connected account
of their subject ; or to do much more than indicate
the sources of information with which I happen
to be acquainted. The dark enigma of the life of
Caspar Hauser remains where it was ; and will
probably have to await for its solution that final
hour when all mysteries shall be made clear. Thus
the student of history will class it with that of the
Man with the Iron Mask, of Junius, and of Louis
Philippe, ex-King of the French. To all which
may possibly come to be added — last but not least
— that of the Claimant himself !
WILLIAM BATES.
Birmingham.
When travelling in Bavaria, in 1852 and 1854,
I was informed at Nuremberg that the wounds of
Caspar Hauser were believed to have been inflicted
by his own hand. At first they had not been con-
sidered dangerous, but mortification had ensued.
The theory was that, having found his popularity
decreasing, he attempted to revive it by represent-
ing himself as the victim of further persecutions,
and, to strengthen the credibility of this falsehood,
he had stabbed himself in several places, uninten-
tionally overdoing his work. I possessed no means
or leisure for investigating the evidence. A two-
volume book, illustrated, on Nuremberg, in recent
years, touches upon this story. I will endeavour
to furnish the full title. J. W. E.
Molash, Kent.
A full account of this young man will be found
in Tracts relating to Caspar H auser, by Earl Stan-
hope. London, Hodson, 1836.
GEORGE LLOYD.
Bcdlington.
BROWNING'S "LOST LEADER."
(4th S. xii. 473, 519.)
An inquiry concerning this impressive poem ap-
peared several years ago in " N. & Q.," I believe,
but I have not the earlier volumes at hand for con-
sultation. As in the case of another perplexing
poem by Robert Browning, How they brought the
Good Neivs from Ghent to Aix, no satisfactory
answer was received. Fortunately, the author is
still living, honoured and vigorous among us (long
may he so continue, " the first by the throne " of
Apollo), and a word from him would remove the
difficulty. He is courteous to all, and may be
willing to decide what special incident, if any, was
referred to in the description of Roland's night-
journey ; and, also, whether the portrait of the
"Lost Leader" is generalized or particular. In
the absence of such an authoritative statement,
may I venture, with sincere respect to MR. J.
BOUCHIER, to differ from his opinion regarding
Wordsworth having been the person indicated
Surely this is a gratuitous assumption. I admit
that Wordsworth has proved to be a " Leader," and
a noble one. His influence has been powerful and
wholesome. It is impossible to read the later
poems' of Byron, especially cantos iii. and iv. of
Childe Harold's Pilgrimage, without observing
the reflection on that poet of Wordsworth's loving
study of Nature. The habitual contemplation of
grand scenery, as affecting mental emotion, is con-
tinued as a theme by the younger poet from the
suggestions of the elder. Even whilst turning the
author of the Lyrical Ballads into ridicule in Don
Juan, and writing of his longer poem as —
" A drowsy frowsy poem, call'd the Excursion,
Writ in a manner which is my aversion : "
Canto iii., stan. 94.
Byron still was learning valuable lessons from
Wordsworth, and by his own poetry helping to
create an extended audience for the Bard of Rydal.
Valuable space need not be occupied in showing
how, to others than Byron, a true " Leader " was
found in Wordsworth. One living writer alone
may be briefly mentioned, viz., Sir Henry Taylor,
whose masterly prose criticisms on Wordsworth,
in the Quarterly Review, confirm the impression
gained from his Philip van Artevelde, of the
reverent love with which he had drunk from that
" well of English undefiled," the writings of him
who wrote of Tintern Abbey, the Duddon, and
Laodamia. But such influence as this, great
and enduring though it be, is not what is attributed
to the " Lost Leader." He affects not alone a few
superior disciples, but a multitude. Much more
distinctly and palpably than the recluse of the
Lakes does the figure of Browning's hero stand
forth as a man of mark. I cannot believe that
either Wordsworth or Southey was intended. The
paltry Collectorship of Customs for the one, or the
Government pension bestowed on the other, might
explain the opening line of the poem —
" Just for a handful of silver he left us,"
if we could possibly imagine so generous a
heart as Browning's alluding unkindly to such
rewards (which were not bribes to these men).
But neither poet won, or cared to win, the ac-
companying " riband to stick in his coat." Southey
determinately refused a proffered baronetcy. Oddly
enough, both MR. J. BOUCHIER and MR. DALBY
neglect the indications of the first verse, whilst
attempting to fathom the meaning of the second.
But the first verse seems to me to be full of con-
tradiction to the new Wordsftorthian or Southeian
theory. Nor could S. T. Coleridge, another
"Leader," have been intended. Mark these
lines : —
"We that had loved him so, followed him, honoured him,
Lived in his mild and magnificent eye,
Learned his great language, caught his clear accents,
Made him our pattern to live and to die ! " &c.
Can these words refer to^ Wordsworth ? Surely
not. His eye, judging by the portrait still pre-
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[5th S. I. JAN. 24, '74.
served at my College of St. John's, Cambridge (to
which he belonged), was mild, indeed, but by no
means magnificent. Southey, it is true, had " an
eye like a hawk." But who has ever made either
of these two poets "a pattern to live and to die'"?
although, in his noble unselfishness, his devoted
literary industry and honesty, Southey was a better
model for imitation than we can easily find else-
where. How, again, could we Englishmen speak
of having " learnt his great language," in regard to
either of these two men 1
If we must fix upon some single person, it would
be more reasonable to choose Goethe. I well re-
member his " mild and magnificent eye " in his
portrait (taken in his old age) at Munich, the
original of one engraved in G. H. Lewes's Life of
Goethe. See the glittering star on his breast in
Dawe's portrait, engraved in Bonn's Autobiography
of Goethe, as illustrating the line about the " riband
to stick in his coat." Kemember Wolfgang
Menzel's bitter antagonism and persistent mis-
representations, because, forsooth, the Baron VOD
Goethe was not a patriot after the demagogic
pattern desired ; because he preferred to devote
himself to the study of science, art, and literature,
at Weimar, wearing, also, his honours as Geheimer
Eath, instead of rushing, like Fichte, from the
lecture-room, at the head of his students, to
attempt a repulse of the French invaders. Both
men were deserving of admiration, but the work
allotted to each was different. I do not contend
for the identification of Goethe as the " Lost
Leader," even as a dramatic impersonation,
although many of us have for his sake " learnt
his great language," in order that we might revel
in the treasured thoughts of his Faust, and have,
in early life, at least, " made him our model to live
and to die." We interpreted his doctrines of
Culture, and his exhortations to do the nearest
work with energy, to suit our individual require-
ments. As to the later interchange of hostilities,
mentioned in the poem, let that be for those alone
who are incapable of seeing how, in his work and
example, Goethe showed a higher patriotism than
even Korner and Fichte. Kotzebue was too small
a soul to have been intended by Browning. We
may accept Goethe, perhaps, as fulfilling the re-
quirements, but certainly not William Words-
worth. J. W. E.
Molash, Kent.
As a close student of Eobert Browning fo
hirty years, will you allow me to suggest that thi
" Lost Leader" may mean Goethe 1 Many allusions
lead me to this belief. Goethe was supposed, bj
some of his followers, to have stifled his libera
aspirations in the flattering atmosphere of the petty
court at Weimar, from whose hereditary Prince h<
received both place, pension, and orders : —
" Just for a handful of silver he left us,
Just for a riband to stick in his coat."
Again, Goethe's remarkable personal beauty (style,
upiter tonans) may be Alluded to in the " mild
nd magnificent eye, in which his followers lived."
^he "Lost Leader" is evidently of a majestic
resence, and capable of inspiring his followers
rith the most enthusiastic devotion, both charac-
eristics of Goethe in a supreme degree ; and
inlike Wordsworth, who I cannot believe is meant
n any way whatever. But, perhaps, after all, the
' Lost Leader " is purely ideal ; the same may be
aid of " The Patriot," unless he is meant for Eiego,
o which opinion I incline. J. S. D.
" COMPURGATORS" (4th S. xii. 348, 434, 497.)—
?hese functionaries were commissioners appointed
iy Kirk-Sessions, sometimes by Town Councils,
o take general oversight of public morals, and
more particularly to take order for the due
ibservance of the Sabbath and fast days. A few
ixtracts from Kirk-Session records will make the
•eaders of " N. & Q." quite as well acquainted
ivith these unpleasant dignitaries as they shall
lesire to be.
" 8th May, 1603. The said day it is thocht expedient
hat ane baillie with tua of the sessioun pas throw the
;owne everie Sabboth-day, and nott sie as they find
ibsent fra the sermones ather afoir or efter none ; and
or that effect that they pas and sersche sic houss as
;hey think maist meit, and pas athort the streittis; and
chieflie that now during the symmer seasoun, they attend
or cause ane attend at the ferrie boat, and nott the
names of sic as gungis to Downie, that they may be
3unischit conforme to the act sett downe agains the
3rackaris of the Sabboth ; siclyp the sessioun appoyntes
ordour to be tane with the absentis fra the sermones on
;he ulk day, and thair names notit and gevin up to the
sessioun." — Aberdeen, p. 26 (Spald. Club.)
" 1649, 20 May.— The collectors with one of the minis-
ters or baillies are appoynted to goe throw the toun and
the feilds, and observe and note those who are sitting,
walking and vaiging out of tha house before and efter
sermons on the Sabbath, and to report yr diligence everie
session day." — Dunfermline (ed. Dr. Henderson, 1865),
p. 31.
The editor informs us that at Dunfermline these
familiars of the Holy Office were termed " seizers,"
and that their functions continued to be exercised
in that town till about 1820. Fast days seem to
be put on the same level as the Sabbath.
1649. "20 Feb. Ordains to warn elspit walker in gok-
hall and helen Cunnynghame thair for Dichting lint on
the last fasting d&y."—Dunf. p. 30.
1641. Dec. 21st.—" That day, Jon Smart fiesher being
convict for selling a carkoise of beef and having pott on
a rost at hes fire at fasting day, is ordainit to pay 8 mks.
quer he payit ; and William Anderson in knoches for
bringing a hameleading of yc s'1 curkeis of beefe ye fast
day, is ordainit to pay 30s. qr of he peyit 24s."— Dunf.
p. 10.
No choice of kirks was allowed : —
1620. Oct. 25th.—" Item, it isordanit that no inhabitant
within this burght sail in ony tyme heirefter go to ser-
mone to Futtie Kirk on the Sabboth day, but that thay
resort to thair awin paroche kirkis within this burght,
5th S. I. JAN. 24, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
73
and heir the sermones within the same, both befoir and
efter noone." — Aberdeen, p. 95.
While attendance on preaching was strictly
enforced, some latitude was permitted in the early
part of the seventeenth century in the matters of
refreshment and recreation before and after service.
1647. March 28th.— "That day it is statut and actit
thatif ChristianeLaw,bre\vster, shall be convict heirefter
in absenting hirself fra the kirk on the Sabbath day, and
in selling drink thereon in tyme of preaching or uther-
weyes imoderatlie before or eftir preaching. And in
masking drink anie tyme that day. . . that she stand at
the tron on a Settirday or anie mercat day betwixt 10
and 12 hrs, befoir noone wh a paper on hir browe shaw-
ing hir notorious scandall. . . and yr eftir y' she shall
make hir publick repentance on the Sabbath before noone
in face of the haill congregat" before the pulpett." —
Dunf. p. 23.
1646. June 14th. — " That day Jon Buist made his publick
repentance before the pulpitt for breaking of the Sabba"'
(sic) in playing at the Kytes (quoits) in tyme of preach-
ing, and peyit 20s. as he was ordanit." — Ib. p. 22.
1641. July 6th. — " Orderit that people who are found
drynking in tyme of preaching on y* Sabbath day shall
be wardit (put in prison) furthwith without delay."
But after 1649 stricter notions prevailed (v. sup.
1649, 20th May).
1650. Aug. 27th.— "It is thot fitt that the ministers
and magistrates meet everie Sabbath in the kirkyard aftir
the afternoons sermon, to goe throw the towne for re-
marking and suppressing the enormities. . . . manie
strangers wha fled from the south parts for fear of Crom-
well, walking up and downe idlie and not regairding the
Lords day." — Dunf. p. 36.
1651. Aug. 18th. — " Jean Barclay sharplie admonishit
be the moderator in name of the sessioun for goeing to
the old toune on the Lords day betwixt sermones." —
Aberd. p. 125.
The compurgators having thus secured a congre-
gation, had now to keep it.
1650. March 10th.— "The session ordaines Andro
Thomeson belman to attend the west doore of the kirk
in tyme of Devine service, y' nane get furth before the
last blessing w'yat license given be the collector and
visitors and a sufficient excuse notifyied by y"1. And
also or Jains y1 the eist doore of the kirk be lockit all
the tyme of devine service, at least fra the tyme the
collectir of the almes comes in." — Dunf. p. 32.
Their next duty was to see to the proper beha-
viour of the congregation.
1663. Nov. 14th.— " The same day the kirk bedelles
being conveined anent the neglect of their dewtie,
ordains ilk ane of them to carie in their hands at all
respective meitings of divyne service, ane whyt staff as
was in use of old, not onlie for wakining those that
sleips in the kirk, but also to walk to and fro from
corner to corner in the kirks, for removing of barnes
and boyes out of the kirks, who troubles the samyne by
making of din in tyme of divyne service." — Memorabilia
of Glasgow (priv. pr. 1868), p. 186.
1643. April 23rd. — " That day andro thomsone belman
is ordaint to tak notice of those who in the communion
yle in tyme of preaching and uther tymes of God's ser-
vice, has yr comon Discourses and conferences, and taks
yr sneizing tobatto in the most remote and secret pairt
of ys sa yle whar they think they will not be seen, and y°
s'1 andro is ordainit to delate such y1 order may be taine
wi"1 yame." — Dunf. p. 12.
1648. March 26th.— " That dayit is thotfitt that public
admonishing be given out of pulpitt to those y* offers
and takes snizing in the kirk in tyme of preaching or
prayer." — Dunf. p. 25.
No doubt, the snuff, forbidden to the nose, was
supplied in abundance to the ears. For my part,
I much prefer the snuff in the sermon. K. B. S
Glasgow.
CONSECRATION OF BISHOP VARLET (4th S. xi.
463, 531.) — Mgr. Dominique-Marie Varlet, of
Paris, and a Doctor of the Sorbonne, was
nominated Bishop of Ascalon inpartibus infidelium
(an ancient episcopal see in the ecclesiastical
province of Palasstina Prima) on 17 Sep., 1718, by
Pope Clement XI., as coadjutor, Cum jure futurce
successionis, to Mgr. Louis-Marie Pidon de Saint-
Olon, Bishop of Babylon, and Vicar- Apostolic of
Persia ; and he was consecrated in the chapel of
the Seminary of Foreign Missions at Paris, on
Quinquagesima Sunday, 19 Feb., 1719, by Mgr.
Jacques Goyon de Matignon de Thorigni, formerly
Bishop of Condom (which see he had resigned in
1693, having held it from 3 Oct., 1671), assisted
by the celebrated Jean-Baptiste Massillon, Bishop
of Clermont (1717-42), and Fr. Louis-Francois de
Mornay, O.S.F. Cap., Bishop of Eumenia, i. p. i.,
and Coadjutor to Bishop of Quebec in Canada
(1713, resigned 1733, and died 1741). He had
succeeded to the bishopric of Babylon, by the
death of Mgr. Pidon, at Bagdad, on 20 Nov. 1718,
and set out immediately from Paris for his distant
diocese ; but owing to several suspicious circum-
stances connected with his journey to the East, the
Congregation of the Propaganda at Eome (who had
the care of all foreign missions), decreed his
suspension on 7 May, 1719, which sentence was
communicated to him, on his arrival in Persia, by
the Bishop of Ispahan. On this, he returned to
Europe, and took up his residence in Holland ;
remaining there till his death, at Rhynwyck, near
Amsterdam, 14 May, 1742, at the age of sixty-six
years. The suspension was never removed, and he
continued a schismatic, and professor of Jansenism
to the end of his career ; having, on four separate
occasions, administered the rite of consecration,
without any episcopal assistance, to the first four
Jansenist Archbishops of Utrecht, as follows : —
1724, Oct. 15, Cornelius Steenoven, died 1725,
April 3, at Leyden ; 1725, Sep. 30, Cornelius-
Joannes Barchman-Wuytiers, died 1733, May 13,
at Ehynwyck, near Utrecht ; 1734, Oct. 28,
Theodoras Van der Croon, died 1739, June 9;
and 1739, Oct. 18, Petrus- Joannes Meindaerts,
who carried on the succession (after Varlet's death
in 1742, as above), by consecrating bishops for the
restored sees of Haarlem and Deventer, and died
1767, Oct. 31. There have been eighteen Jansenist
prelates between the years 1742 and 1873, nine of
Utrecht, eight of Haarlem (including the new
bishop, Dr. Casparus-Joannes Einkel, Pastor of
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5!h S. I. JAN. 24, 74.
the church of S. Nicolaas at Krommenie, in the
diocese of Haarlem, consecrated on August 11
last, in the church of S. Laurent at Kotterdam), and
five of Deventer. The present occupant of the
latter see is Dr. Herman Heykamp, who was con-
secrated in July, 1854. The archbishopric of
Utrecht has been vacant since the death of Dr.
Hendrik-Johannes Van Buul on June 4. The
Jansenist Church of Holland consists, at present,
of two bishops, twenty-four pastors, and a popula-
tion of about 7,000 souls, distributed over sixteen
parishes in the diocese of Utrecht, and nine in
that of Haarlem ; the diocese of Deventer has now
no church or congregation belonging to the com-
munion, the bishop being dean of the metropolitan
chapter, and pastor of S. Laurent's Church at
Rotterdam ; and the chapter of Haarlem ceased to
exist in 1867 ; on the death of its late bishop,
Dr. Lambertus de Jongh, the see remained vacant
for six years, owing to there being a question
as to whether the right of election of a bishop
devolved upon the clergy of the diocese, or upon
the Archbishop of Utrecht and his metropolitan
chapter ; the controversy has, however, been settled
by Dr. Rinkel's late consecration. Besides the
twenty-five churches scattered over the north of
Holland — the principal of which are those at
Utrecht, Rotterdam, and Amsterdam — there is one
on the island of Nordstrand, in the duchy of
Slesvig, now belonging to Prussia, which is
dependent on the diocese of Utrecht. A. S. A.
Richmond.
P.S. Should a catalogue of all the Jansenist
uccession be acceptable to the readers of "N. & Q.,"
I shall gladly furnish one.
HART HALL : HERTFORD COLLEGE, OXFORD
(5th S. i. 51.) — LORD LYTTELTON, as a Cambridge
man, hesitates very naturally to render " Aula
Cervina" as Hart Hall. The following information
may remove the doubt, as well as help to confirm
the Editorial Note concerning it. First, the site
can be determined by Gutch's Anthony Wood,
where, in speaking of the buildings of S. Alban
Hall, he says, " The walks now used by this Hall
lying in the east part thereof, belong also to
Merton by virtue of a lease from Balliol College
whereon anciently stood Hert Hall." Then again
in The History of the University of Oxford, we
are told that Walter de Stapledon, the subsequent
founder of Exeter College, when about to accom-
plish his munificent design of founding a college
or hall in Oxford, engaged Hart Hall, and after-
wards completed his plan on the spot where
Hertford College now stands (i. e., by removing
it to the present site of Magdalen Hall). Hart
Hall continued to be a place of education without
interruption till the Principalship of Dr. Richard
Newton, who conceived the plan of endowing it
as a college. King George III., accordingly, fur-
thered his design and made the hall "a Body
Corporate and Politick " under the name of Hert-
ford College. Various benefactors and sixty-four
Principals of Hart Hall are recorded. Dr. Newton
then became the first Principal of Hertford College
after the Royal Charter had been granted in 1740.
Whether the following note, which occurs in the
history quoted above, accounts for the extinction
of " Hertford College " and the substitution of
Magdalen Hall, I do not know —
" By the statutes, it may be called by the name of
any other person who will complete the endowment of
it, or become the principal benefactor to it."
A. H. B.
S. Alban Hall, Oxford.
THE AMERICAN CIVIL WAR (4th S. xii. 368.)—
The only history of the war from a Southern point
of view, is The History of the War between the
States, by Hon. Alexander H. Stephens, ex-Vice-
President of the Confederate States, now M.C.
from the State of Georgia. This, however, is
rather a history of the causes which led to the war
than of military operations. Materials for a his-
tory of the war, consisting of official reports of
commanders, and other original documents, are
being collected by the Southern Historical Society,
and published from time to time in their official
organ, The Southern Magazine (Baltimore, Mary-
land). G. L. H
Greenville, Ala.
MATTHEW PARIS (4th S. xii. 473.) — If it be the
rule, as I believe it is, that the commemoration of
persons, whose bodies have been removed from one
place of sepulture to another, be altered from the
day of their death to the day of their translation,
then, undoubtedly, MR. GALTON is right, and the
author of Parliaments and Councils of England is
wrong. And what gives a strong colour to MR.
GALTON'S view is, that in the Church of England
Calendar, prefixed to the Book of Common Prayer,
the anniversary days, both of Edward, King of the
West Saxons, and Edward the Confessor, are set
down on the days of their respective translation —
the former on June 20th; the latter on October
13th. Rapin places the Parliament in question on
the 13th of October. He says, " Which met at
London, October 13th. M. Paris, p. 849. This was'
a Parliament. See Ann. Burton., p. 322 " (vol. i.,
325, 1732, Fol., note). We know, from history,
that Edward, commonly called the Martyr, was
murdered at Corfe Castle on 18th March, 978, and
that Edward the Confessor died peacefully in his
bed, on Jan., 5th, 1066. Wheatley, Stephens,
with all the best writers on this subject, are quite
unanimous in their opinion — an opinion identical
with MR. GALTON'S. EDMUND TEW, M.A.
FAMILY NAMES GIVEN IN BAPTISM (4th S. xii.
495.) — The reason why in Roman Catholic countries
family names are not given in baptism is because
5th S. I. JAN. 24, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
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it is thought necessary or desirable that the child
should have a tutelary saint, who is for the most
part the saint presiding over the day when the
little stranger made his first appearance. The
name is therefore sought in the calendar, and in
this practice we have the origin of our " Johns,"
" Thomases," and so forth. In Anglo-Saxon coun-
tries this part of the significance of name-giving
became lost as the old Catholic traditions died out,
although the ancient custom is still generally fol-
lowed from habit. Sometimes in Italy, but very
seldom, people who do not care about the saints
give family names to their children. Thus Gari-
baldi's two sons are named respectively Menotti
and Ricciotti. Such saintless beings, having no
recognized onomastic day, are liable to the disad-
vantage of receiving no presents or other attentions
from their friends on what in Catholic lands is the
equivalent of our " birth-day." H. K.
PASTE BY PICHLER (5th S. i. 7.) — Information
will be found in Rev. C. W. King's various books
on Gems, in reply to CRESCENT'S inquiry. Briefly
recapitulating which, I may say that the Pichlers,
John and Louis, were celebrated engravers at
Naples during the latter half of the last century,
where they successfully imitated the antique style
of gem-engraving. I possess a fine intaglio on
sard by Louis Pichler, of the head of Paris. It is
signed in the exergue A* IT; and I doubt not that
there are also the initials of the name on the paste.
I believe that the gems executed by Louis are
much esteemed by foreign collectors. The execu-
tion is perfect, but my gem, at any rate, appears
greatly deficient in vigour and character, if com-
pared with any fine antique work. Pastes are
made by pressing the disc of glass, when hot, upon
a matrix of tripoli and pipeclay. Mr. King states
that the number of pastes issued by Tassie was
15,833. J. ELIOT HODGKIN.
West Derby.
"To SCRIBE" {5th S. i. 6.)— It is, perhaps, just
as well that this verb has not come into general
use, for it would have increased confusion instead
of simplifying matters. The regular verb " to
scribe" being already in use in our language,
where it has no less than two meanings, or rather
applications.
1st. When timber merchants measure up timber
that they have bought, they mark the number of
the balk and their initials or private marks on each
piece with a small iron instrument made purposely.
Marking timber thus is called "scribing" it. I
am not quite sure whether the instrument is called
"a scribe" or not, or whether it is called a
" scribing iron." It has some such name.
2nd. When a board has to be fitted against an
uneven wall or other irregular surface, a carpenter
will lay the edge of the board against the wall ;
there will, of course, be points where the board
touches, and gaps where the wall is hollow. He
then takes a pair of compasses fixed open to a
certain distance, and drawing one point of the
compasses along the wall, with the other point he
traces a line on the surface of the board, which
line is, of course, parallel to the wall, and follows
all its irregularities. This process is called " scrib-
ing " the board ; and when the wood is chipped
away to the line which the carpenter " has scribed"
it fits into all the hollows and projections of the
wall. ROBERT HOLLAND.
Mobberley, Cheshire.
USE OF INVERTED COMMAS (5th S. i. 9.) — I
apprehend the only answer that can be given to
the question, Why do half-educated persons use
inverted commas oddly1? is, that they are, half-
educated : and to the question, What idea was in
the mind of the writer? the reply is, No idea at all,
or none capable of being expressed. It is one of
the many blunders in punctuation and the like
that one sees on sign-boards, &c. — marks of admi-
ration for full stops, commas for hyphens, and'
other varieties. One of the latter was for many
years to be seen over a shop-door near Bromsgrove,
and is ludicrous enough to be embalmed. A man
meant to describe himself as a farrier and a cow-
doctor. What he actually did was to announce
himself to all mankind in this threefold fashion,
as " William Brettell, Beast, Leech, and Farrier."
LYTTELTON.
SCOTTISH FAMILY OF EDGAR (5th S. i. 125.) —
Nothing is so certain as uncertainty ; and in some
matters one may be excused a benevolent unbelief.
The author of the work referred to disclaims any
intention of disparaging the Edgars of Eyemouth,
but he is not justified in admitting their claim to
represent Edgar of Newtown, until they have
substantiated it before the Lyon King of Arms.
If genuine, nothing can be easier than to do so.
A reference to other claims in the same work will
show that the author was in the position of " the
painter who pleased everybody and nobody."
There were two contemporary Richard Edgars in
the same county, and each had a brother Andrew,
therefore the settlement referred to [1767] does
not show the connecting link between R. E., of
Newtown, and the Rev. John Edgar, of Hutton.
And again, in Molle v. Riddell, if I mistake not,
the question on which that action was founded
was settled adversely to Molle (acting for Rev.
J. E.) before any question of pedigree arose. But,
so far as I am aware, no pedigree ever has been
proved, and until it is, and to the satisfaction of
the proper authorities, the question must, I think,
be considered open. Besides this, the representa-
tion of Newtown would not necessarily carry that
of Wedderlie in the male line. Coincidences are
often so embarrassing, that when we encounter
them it is well to pause. Sr.
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[5th S. I. JAN. 24, 74.
SACRED VESSELS (5th S. i. 8.) — I must refer to
niy Sacred Archceology for any information which
I possess on the subject of " Benediction with the
Blessed Sacrament," for obvious reasons. I may
however say that the mediaeval monstrance in
England was used in two ways : (1) at York we
find, " j monstrum cum ossibus S. Petri in beryl,"
that is, a reliquary (Monast. 6, p. 1205, a) ; but
(2) at Lincoln we find a processional transparent
vessel, a round pyx of crystal having a place for
the Sacrament for the Rogation days (16. 1279) ;
at Windsor, " ij angeli stantes efc portantes fere-
trum de berillo ad imponenduin Corpus Christi "
(Ib, 1364) ; so at Aberdeen, " una pyxis de
crystallo cum diversis reliquiis" (Reg. Aberdon.
142) ; " monstrantia argenti deaurata pro custbdia
Eucharistise, monstrantia pro conservatione reliqui-
arum" (Ib. 185) ; " monstrantia instar Calicis pro
custodia Ven. Sacramenti cum visitantur infirmi "
(Ib. 186) ; " j stondyng pyx of crystal and gylt to
bere the Sacrament in sett with stones and jewels
besides the crystal" (MS. Inv. S. Stephen's Westm.).
The rites of Durham mention a goodly " Shrine
ordained to be carried the said day in procession,
called Corpus Christi Shrine, and on the height of
the said shrine a four-squared box all of chrystal,
wherein was enclosed the Holy Sacrament of the
Aulter." "A Nooster [ostensorium] for the Sacra-
ment of curios work of sylver and gylt haveing a
beryll in it cxliiii. unces" (MS. Inv. Westm. Abbey").
In 1452 the Council of Cologne forbade expo-
sition on the altar, or carrying the Host visibly in
procession within the " Monstrance," except upon
Corpus Christi day, and one other day in the year
on an extraordinary occasion. In 1699 Grancolas
says that benediction with the Holy Sacrament
was not earlier than a century before that date.
The English instances of a portable monstrance
date only from the second quarter of the sixteenth
century. " Blessing with the Chalice" is mentioned
by Becon and in the Homilies.
MACKENZIE E. C. WALCOTT.
" JACARANDA" (5th S. i. 28.)— This is the com-
mon name in Brazil for rosewood. It is sold to
English buyers for export under this name, and is
not a tree fit for conservatories. B.
I have had excellent furniture made of this
wood in Brazil. It is a species of rosewood.
GORT.
"THE FAIR CONCUBINE," &c. (5th S. i. 28.)—
I take the beautiful Vanella to be Anne Vane,
daughter of Gilbert, Lord Barnard, who bore a
natural son to Frederick Lewis, Prince of Wales,
father of George III. John Heneage Jesse, in
The Memoirs of the Court to the Death of George II.,
gives this child the singular name of "Fitz-
Frederick of Cornwall." He was born in 1732 (the
date of H. S. A.'s book) and died before his mother,
in 1736. She died on the llth March in that year.
I suppose P. (or Prince) Alexis stands for the
owner of the " princely stare," but who was Albi-
marides I cannot say. C. F. S. WARREN, M.A.
EARLE'S " PHILOLOGY OF THE ENGLISH
TONGUE" (5th S. i. 29.)— The fashion which C. P. F.
asks after seems, like some other old fashions, to be
re-appearing. I have seen it in people's letters who
are not, that I know of, specially old-fashioned;
and in printing it may be seen in some of Bagster's
Bibles and New Testaments. He professes, I
believe, to employ it " wherever a line may be saved
by doing so." C. F. S. WARREN, M.A.
"Ye" for "the" is still frequently used in
their drafts by all classes of lawyers ; and I have
met with it in the correspondence of friends of my
own, middle-aged and young. It is a very con-
venient form of contraction in rapid writing, and
all the old contractions are kept up in legal drafting,
and sometimes in the copies, for this very reason.
H. T.
"THE WAY OUT" (5th S. i. 26.)- A. A. L. has
been imposed upon by a " traveller's tale." The
" spaski Vorota," or Gate of the Redeemer, the
principal entrance to the Kremlin, is so called from
a painting over the gateway, held in great reverence
from ancient times. It is to this that the obeisance
is made in uncovering the head in passing under
the arch. This custom has prevailed from the date
of the erection of the gateway, in 1491, and was
formerly enforced by severe penalties. As to a
Government official being stationed to see that due
reverence is observed, there is frequently a sentry
on duty, but I have passed through many a time
without seeing any such official. Any person
failing to uncover would run the risk of being
"bonneted" by some passing Gorodoveeye, or
citizen.
Whether Napoleon left the Kremlin by this
gate or not, I do not know ; but certainly this has
no connexion with the custom alluded to.
J. A. PICTON.
Sandyknowe, Wavertree.
" ORDEAL " (5th S. i. 25.)— That ordeal is pro-
perly a dissyllable is shown by its old form ordccl
as given in dictionaries ; but it seems hardly correct
to say that " deal is also spelt dole," for while these
words differed originally as active and passive,
dole being clearly traceable to dal, which, according
to Home Tooke, is the past part, of dcelan, to
divide, they still differ as to shades of meaning,
however closely they may now agree in their gene-
ral signification ; this appears in the phrases, " a
great deal," " a scanty dole," while to dole out alms
does not express quite the same thing as to deal
them out. In addition to the G. urtheil with
which our word is in fact identical, the Russian
or Sclavonic otdel, i. e., out-del, signifying division,
bears a striking resemblance in form to ordeal, and
5th S. I. JAN. 24, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
77
in signification to its primitive meaning of choosing
out. To recur for a moment to the word dole, I
cannot refrain from transcribing, as quoted by H.
Tooke, s. voc., the following couplet from Dry den's
translation of Juv. Sat. 1 : —
" Clients of old were feasted; now a poor
Divided dole is dealt at th' outward door."
W. B. C.
"BLIND HARRY'S WALLACE" (5th S. i. 29.)—
The first edition of Blind Harry's Wallace was
published in Edinburgh in the year 1570. For
list of subsequent editions vide Allibone's Dic-
tionary of English Literature, under " Henry the
Minstrel." The only MS. copy known of Sir
William Wallace is in the Advocates' Library,
Edinburgh, dated 1488.
SPARKS HENDERSON WILLIAMS.
18, Kensington Crescent, W.
THE FIRST ENGLISH COMMERCIAL TREATY (5th
S. i. 29) with any foreign country was that with
Norway in 1217 (Rymer, Foe. i. 223), and the first
commercial treaty with Flanders was in 1274.
Consult Anderson's Historical and Chronological
Deduction of the Origin of Commerce, vol. i., pp.
200-235. EDWARD SOLLY.
REGISTER BOOKS STAMPED (5th S. i. 27.) — If
W. P. C. will refer to the Act of Parliament, 23
Geo. III., and to the History of Parish Registers
in England, by J. S. Burn, ed. 1862, page 34, he
will there find the information he is in search of
on this subject. The stamp duty of 3d. was im-
posed by the above Act from the 1st of October,
1783, the provisions of which Act were extended
to the Dissenters from the 1st of October, 1785,
under Act 25 Geo. III., and both Acts were re-
pealed in 1794 by Act 34 Geo. III., c. 11.
CHARLES A. J. MASON.
3, Gloucester Crescent, Hyde Park, W.
By 23 Geo. III., c. 67, the following duty was
imposed as from the 1st day of October, 1783: —
" Upon the entry of any burial, marriage, birth, or
christening in the register of any parish, precinct,
or place in Great Britain, a stamp duty of three-
pence." The Act was, by sec. 7, not to extend to
burials from hospitals or workhouses, nor to the
birth or christening of any child of parents receiving
any parish relief. By sec. 8 the Act applied to the
registers kept by the " people called Quakers," and
a further Act, 25 Geo. III., c. 75, extended its ap-
plication to the registers of Protestant Dissenters
from the Church of England. Both Acts were
repealed in 1794 by 34 Geo. III., c. 11, and not
before. Either, therefore, W. C. P. is mistaken
in respect of the year in which the stamps cease to
appear on the register; or there happened to
be no entries thereon between 1786 and 1794,
which is at least unlikely ; or, " the parson, vicar,
or curate, or other person having authority to
make " these entries on the register of the Wilt-
shire parish, laid himself open to the penalty im-
posed by sec. 3 of the above firstly recited Act.
H. M. K. P.
" ALL NIGHT THE STORM," &c. (5th S. i. 48.) —
W. W. will find another W. W., one William
Wordsworth, to be the author of the poem he
seeks. See Eossetti's edition of Wordsworth, pp.
327-8, the lines he quotes being 11. 28-9 of the
noblest tribute ever paid Grace Darling.
A. B. GROSART.
Blackburn.
THE GREEK SWALLOW SONG (5th S. i. 48.)—
The Swallow Song, alluded to by A FOREIGNER,
may be found in The Golden Treasury of Ancient
Greek Poetry, published at the Clarendon Press, p.
108. CHARLES SWAINSON, M.A.
Highburst Wood.
MRS. SIDDONS A SCULPTOR (5th S. i. 48.) — I
have some recollection of being shown a bust (in
plaster?) of Mrs. Siddons, by herself, when sur-
veying the rooms at Newnham, near Oxford, in
1832, or thereabouts. J. B. B.
MR. HERBERT SPENCER AND THE POKER (4th S.
xii. 471, 523.) — I do not think it would be neces-
sary to institute a series of experiments to prove
that the placing a poker perpendicularly before a
grate has an effect in causing the fire to burn, or
(what has not been inaptly termed) to " draw up."
However slight the effect may be— and I believe it
to be only slight* — it is to be accounted for on
perfectly scientific principles ; viz., by dividing
and concentrating the current of air, which every
fire " draws up " to itself. This was the view, I
remember, that the late Professor Daniell (inventor
of the pyrometer) took of it, in incidentally speak-
ing of "this old woman's custom" in his lectures
on Heat at King's College.
Most persons are aware that the air, which is
composed of oxygen and nitrogen, is a perfectly
elastic fluid. When combustion takes place, as in
the ignition of a fire, great rarefication ensues in
and about it, forming, under favourable circum-
stances (as in a furnace) almost a complete vacuum.
Inconsequence of this rarefication and the elasticity
of the air, the latter rushes forward to fill up the
space, and is as greedily sucked in, as it were, by
the fire. And now comes "the tug of war" —
" Greek meets Greek !" Air and coal are decom-
posed, and their elements or atoms wage a war of
extinction — neither gives in ; both are destroyed
(or rather enter into new combinations, for there
* It must be remembered tbat, before so placing it,
the fire itself generally, at least frequently, receives a
" poke," which would Lave considerable effect in causing
it to burn by admitting the air to pass through it mor
freely.
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
S. I. JAN. 24, '74.
zs no such thing as destruction), and a few ashes
only remain to tell the tale.
But the modus operandi of the poker will be
best understood by comparison. The more we en-
deavour to oppose the admission of the air to the
fire the fiercer the conflict becomes. If you close
your fireplace, and leave only a small opening
before the grate, you will hear its rushing forward
acts like a pair of bellows — this concentration feed-
ing it more rapidly, and destroying it more rapidly.
Diminish opposition by increasing the size of the
aperture, and the force will diminish in like ratio.
This applies still more to furnaces where the air is
compelled to pass entirely through the fire.
It may not be uninteresting to note here the
great analogy between our own breathing, as well
as that of quadrupeds and birds, and what may be
called the breathing of fire. By means of our
lungs, acting like a pair of bellows, we draw in the
air, which is rapidly decomposed. We absorb the
oxygen to support the combustion of life, and we
exhale or throw off chiefly carbonic acid (which is
poison) and watery vapour. Now the vacuum
formed by fire becomes its lungs, by means of
which the air is drawn in ; and, as in our own
lungs, it is rapidly decomposed and robbed of its
oxygen to support combustion ; whilst carbonic
acid, steam, &c., are driven off. Trees and plants,
too, breathe by means of their leaves, which are
their lungs, in a somewhat similar way. Cut off
the leaves of a plant and it will soon perish. If
the leaves become worm-eaten it will soon look
sickly : if it is not stopped it will die from con-
sumption !
Whilst ridiculing the want of " qualitative and
quantitative ideas of physical causation " in others,
Mr. Herbert Spencer does not appear to have quite
apprehended them himself — at least in the present
instance. MEDWEIG.
WELSH LANGUAGE (4th S. xii. 368, 415, 523.)—
My suggestion that our word " twelfth " might
have been derived from " ystwyll," which is Welsh
for " Twelfth-day," has not found favour with your
correspondents ; and, after reading their com-
munications, I am not disposed to press it. But,
supposing my notion to have been erroneous, a
question remains to be solved, viz., whence is that
English word " twelfth " derived 1 I am unable
to find its origin in any other language with which
I am acquainted. As to the pronunciation of the
Welsh " 11," I think your correspondents deny too
broadly its resemblance in sound to our " thl," or
" 1th " (as the case may be). I have often been in
Wales and heard Welsh spoken by the natives ;
but, while admitting that the English orthography
just quoted does not adequately or exactly convey
the sound of the Welsh aspirated " 11," I maintain
that it bears a fairly approximate resemblance to
it, and that no other combination of English letters
of the alphabet could very much improve upon it.
The fact is, that the sound of gutturals and aspi-
rates generally cannot be expressed by letters of
the alphabet. For instance, it would be impossible
by such means to represent the two distinct sounds
of " Ich " and " Ach " in the German.
But, to return to the etymology of " ystwyll."
I am surprised to find MR. UNDONE (who, from,
his letter, I should fancy, knows more of the
language than I do) doubting the existence of
Welsh words in which "ys" precedes syllables
beginning with " tw," or " t " and another conso-
nant. There are, in fact, several such, and, there-
fore, I do not think he is entitled to assume that
the word in question, "ystwyll," ought to be
syllabled thus, "y"and "stwyll"; for in Welsh
" ys " is commonly used both as a prefix and an
expletive. I have, therefore, quite as much right
to assume that the division of the word should be
into " ys " and " twyll." On this assumption,
another etymology for " ystwyll " may be suggested.
One of the meanings of " twyll " is " an illusion."
If we translate that into " appearance," we have
the " epiphany " at once. This may be also deemed
"far fetched," but I think it is not more so than
deriving " ystwyll " from the French " e'toile," or,
as W. E. proposes, from the Welsh " Gwyll,"
which would metamorphose " gloom and darkness "
into the appearance of a star ! — surely the most
striking example ever met with of the " lucus a
nonlucendo"! M. H. K.
" BLOODY " (4th S. xii. 324, 395, 438 ; 5th S. i.
37.) — I think Latimer used the word in the ordi-
nary manner of good writers : —
" Saul and his bloody house." — 2 Sam. xxi. 1.
" Even the rememberers of bloody Mary might do that
unpopular Queen the justice," &c. — Saturday Review,
Jan. 10, 1874, p. 48.
And Macbeth is advised by the apparition to
" Be bloody, bold, and resolute," &c.
The omission of the comma would vulgarize the
entire passage. FITZHOPKIXS.
[See « N. & Q.," 3rd S. xii. 460 ; 4'" S. i. 41, 88, 132, 210,
283.]
BIBLIOGRAPHY OF UTOPIAS (4th S. xi. 519 ; xii'.
2, 22, 41, 91, 153, 199.)— I have before me—
" The Travels of Hildebrand Bowman, Esquire, into
Carnovirria, Taupiniera, Olfactaria, and Auditante, in
New Zealand ; in the Island of Bonhommica, and in the
powerful Kingdom of Luxo-Volupto, on the Great
Southern Continent. Written by Himself, who went
on Shore in the Adventure's large Cutter, at Queen Char-
lotte's Sound, New Zealand, the fatal 17th of December,
1773; and escaped being cut off, and devoured, with the
rest of the Boat's crew, by happening to be a-shootirig in
the woods ; where he was afterwards unfortunately left
behind by the Adventure. London : Printed for W.
Strahan, and T. Cadell, in the Strand, 1778. 8vo. xv. and
400 pp."
I should feel greatly obliged to any correspondent
5th if. I. JAN. 24, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
who would inform me whether " Hildebrand Bow-
man " is a fictitious name, and whether the state-
ment which commences the first chapter — " I was
born in Holdernesse, a district of Yorkshire, near
the borough of Heyden (i. e. Hedon), of which my
father was a freeman " — is founded on fact.
CHARLES A. FEDERER.
Bradford.
THE LATIN VERSION OF BACON'S " ESSAYS " (4th
S. xii. 474 ; 5th S. i. 13.)— I quote from the edition
of which the following is the title, —
" Francisci BACONI, Baronis de VERULAMIO
Sermones Fideles, Ethici, Politici, (Economic!; sive
Interiora Rerum. Accedunt Faber Fortunae, colores
boni et mali, &c.
" Impensis Job. Baptistae Schb'nwetteri. Francofurti
ad Mcenum, MDCLXV.
Illustri et excellent! DOMIXO
GEORGIO
Duci Buckingham!*, Summo Angliae Admirallio.
Honoratissime Domine,
"Salomon inquit, Nomen bonum est inslar Vnguenti
fragrantis et pretiosi .... Consentaneum igitur duxi,
Affectui et obligation! meae, erga HlVftriuiinam Domina-
tionem tuam, ut Nomen tuum illis prajfigam, tarn in
editions Anglica quam Latina. Etenim in bona spe sum
Volumen carum in Latinam (Linguam scilicet uni-
versalem) versum posse durare, quamdiu Libri et Litene
durent ....
" Illustrissim.ee Domination™ tuse
Servus devinctissimus et fidelis
FR. S. ALBAN."
It would appear, therefore, that the Latin as well
as the English version of the Essays is due to
Bacon himself. M. Victor Cousin (Cours de
Philosophic, Bruxelles, 1840), Tom. II., p. 102,
states : —
" Hobbes etait un ami et un disciple avoue de Bacon.
Nous savons que c'est Hobbes qui, avec Ben-Jonson, a
traduit Padmirable Anglais de Bacon dans un Latin qui
a aussi sa beaute,"
M. Cousin is referring especially to the De
Augmentis Scientiarum and the Novum Organum.
Can any of the correspondents of " N. & Q." cite
an authority for the Essays also 1 B. E. N.
ARMS o? HUNGARY (4th S. xii. 426, 500 ; 5th S.
i. 39.) — Two correspondents write that there is no
particular reason why Hungary should have a
triple mount in its Arms, and also that the dexter
half has no meaning. They are, I venture to
assert, not quite correct. Hungary is known by
all Hungarians, and spoken of not uncommonly, if
perhaps euphuistically, as "the land of the four
rivers and the three mountains," the rivers being
the Danube, Theiss, Save, and Drave — in Hun-
garian, Duna, Tisza, Szava, Drava ; the mountains
Tatra, Fatra, Matra, the popular names of three
of the highest points of the Carpathians. The
Arms are always said to represent this— i. e., the
four bars argent on the dexter side the four
rivers, and the three mountains vert on the sinister
side these three mountain peaks. They have both,
therefore, significations.
If your correspondents will refer to a memoir of
that great and lamented man, the late Count
Stephen Szecheryi, in the Revue dcs Deux Mondes
for 1867, they will see that he used the expres-
sion I have quoted, in referring to the country for
which he lived and died.
AUGUSTUS GOLDSMID.
CASER WINE : CARRION (4th S. xii. 190, 256,
399 ; 5lli S. i. 39.)— I thought that our word
carrion best represented taraf, as a term of re-
proach, applicable from a Jewish point of view,
even to what we should consider the very best
meat. J. T. F.
Hatfield Hall, Durham.
FUNERAL GARLANDS (4th S. xii. 406, 480 ; 5th
S. i. 12, 57.) — There are two very interesting
papers on this subject in that charming work The
Sketch Book, by Washington Irving, one entitled
" Rural Funerals," the other " The Pride of the
Village." JOHN PICKFORD, M.A.
Newbourne Rectory, Woodbridge.
THE VIOLET, THE NAPOLEONIC FLOWER (4th
S. xi. 134, xii. 452 ; 5th S. i. !&)— I remember
some very pretty devices in violets which came
out, I believe, on the death of the son of Napoleon,
the " King of Rome "; they had, on the edge of the
petals, profiles of the members of the family ; each
profile formed the outward edge of the petal, look-
ing at the flower, not away from it, so that the
face was white. E. L. BLENKINSOPP.
I don't know if the violet was connected with
the Napoleonic dynasty before 1814; but in that
year, while the Emperor was in Elba, coloured
prints were circulated, representing a plant of
violet in blow. But, on looking close, an outline
of Napoleon's side-face was discernible among the
leaves and flowers. Beneath was the motto " En
printemps il reviendra." This was realised in
1815. The soldiers talked of him, among them-
selves, as " Corporal Violet." S. T. P.
NOTES ON BOOKS, ETC.
Wilkes, Sheridan, Fox. The Opposition under George
the Third. By W. F. Rae. (Isbister & Co.)
THE last published life of Wilkes was bracketed with
that of Cobbett, and was from the pen of the Rev.
John Selby Watson, of such unhappy notoriety. This
book was published in 1870. Comparing the two lives of
Wilkes, one might almost think that the writers were
treating of two totally distinct persons. Mr. Rae treats
his subject in a masterly way; he is rather unjust,
perhaps, to George III., who was not without some
excuse. He was not a little driven into the course he
took by the efforts of others to ride over him, roughshod.
However this may be, Mr. Rae has told the story of His
Majesty's Opposition with great spirit. Morally, the
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[5"1 S. I. JAN. 24, 74.
three men were not exemplary ; politically, they were
not so bad as their enemies painted them. Any way, they
have never been more cleverly treated than in this most
readable volume, not the least merit of which is that it is
in a large, handsome, legible type, which is most pleasant
to the eyes of the reader.
Modern Birmingham and its Institutions. A Chronicle
of Local Events from 1841 to 1871. Compiled and
Edited by J. Alford Langford, LL.D. Vol. I. (Bir-
mingham, Osborne ; London, Simpkin & Co.)
DR. LANGFORD is approaching the close of his long and
valuable labours. He has already told the story of Bir-
mingham from a very early period down to the first year
named in the above title-page. Books compiled as these
have been, with scholarly care and rare discretion, are
among the very best contributions to local history. Dr.
Langford has not much more to tell, and we congratulate
him on the approaching termination of a work which
does him so much honour.
The Orkneyinga Saga. Translated from the Icelandic.
By Jon. A. Ilealtalin and Gilbert Goudie. Edited,
with Notes and Introduction, by Joseph Anderson.
(Edinburgh, Edmonston & Douglas.)
THE Keeper of the National Museum of the Antiquities
of Scotland has added to the national stock of poetry and
history. This early history of the northern Jarles is
founded on national songs, the springs of history itself.
More than half the volume is occupied with an Introduc-
tion, in which more is to be learnt about Orkney than can
be easily found elsewhere. We recommend workers out
on holiday next summer to read this book before starting,
then to go by steam to Aberdeen, thence to Kirkwall,
and, with this volume in hand, " do " Orkney thoroughly.
They will experience that rare thing, a novel pleasure.
Facetiae. Musarum Delicice ; or, the Muses' Recreation.
Containing severall Pieces of Poetique Wit. By Sir
J. M. and Ja. S. 1658.
Wit Restor'd: in severall Select Poems, not formerly
publish't. 1658.
Wit's Recreation. Selected from the Finest Fancies of
Moderne Muses, with a Thousand Outlandish Proverbs,
1640. The whole diligently compared with the Original!,
with all the Wood Engravings, Plates, Memoirs, and
Notes. New Edition, with additional Notes, Indexes,
and a Portrait of Sir John Mennes. 2 vols. (J. C.
Hotten.)
THE above works are among the reprints which are now
as much in fashion with certain readers as ancient
comedies are on the stage. There are students curious
in such literature, but the books are for upper shelves.
They are, compared with true poetry and wit, what the
crab apple and the sloe are to a Ribstone pippin and
an Orleans plum. Prcemonitus, prcemunitus.
IN Whitaker's A Imanacl; for 1873, amongst "Objec-
tionable Royal Pensions," there is Mr. J. Holdship
" Chaffwax," 1,145*. 11s. ! ! H. B. P. asks, What is
" Chaffwax " ? What can make it, or him, or her, worth
such a sum ?
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Particulars of Price, &c., of the following books to be sent direct to
the persons by whom thej- are required, whose names and addresses
are given for that purpose :— •
CHURCHMAN'S SHILLING MAGAZINE, Dec.,lS73.
NOTES AND QUERIES. No. 264, Jan. 18, 1873.
Wanted by Mr. Erooksbank, The Bailey, Durham.
LENA; or, the Silent Woman. In B Vols.
Wanted by MissJ. Cwt'iis, Leasam House, Bye.
t0
R. W.— The passage occurs in Tacitus, in the descrip-
tion of the funeral of Junia : — " Catone avunculo genita,
Cassii uxor, M. Bruti soror" Annal, iii., 76. "Praeful-
gebant Cassius atque Brutus eo ipso quod effigies eorum
non visebantur." Their " imagines " were not among
the twenty that figured at Junia's funeral. The con-
stitution being subverted, the assertors of public liberty
were not to be honoured, but, as Tacitus elsewhere
remarks, " Negatus honor gloriam intendit."
G. W. D. (Oakham).— See European Magazine, Vol.
xxxii. 153, 241, for a life of Cardinal Langham. It
is there conjectured that, from his name and the legacy
he left to the church, he was born at Langham in
Rutlandshire. The bequest seems to have consisted of
a vestment and an altar.
S. N. (Ryde). — Skinner derives Balk from valicare,
Ital. to pass over. St. Martin's Church, Oxford, is called
Carfax from its situation at the meeting of the four
main streets of the city, the quatre voies. Here formerly
stood the Carfax conduit, now in Nuneham Park.
0. S.— The Sound Dues (for lighting the Cattegat) were
first levied in 1348. England first paid them in 1450. In
1857, they were, by agreement between Denmark and
other nations, capitalized. England's share of payment
amounted to 1,125,206*.
M. R. N. should apply to the person the proper pro-
nunciation of whose name he desires to ascertain. Other
correspondents, asking questions of a similar quality, are
referred to general custom and to pronouncing dictionaries,
which usually leave the inquirer as puzzled as ever.
G. L. H. — The correction has already been made. See
4th S. xii. 455. Distance will often account for having
been anticipated.
T. H. C.— "Never look a Gift Horse in the Mouth."
Rabelais, Liv. II. ; Hudibras, Pt. I., Canto i., 1. 490. It
is said to be quoted by St. Jerome.
A. S. A. Ultra Centenarianism. Forwarded to MR.
THOMS.
A. S. " Rowland for an Oliver." See " N. & Q.," 1" S.
i. 234; ii. 132; ix. 457.
W. H. B. (Camberwell).— You had better forward a
query.
G. R. J.— "Strangers on the bar," is of universally
known significance.
F. H. STRATMANN is referred to " N. & Q.," 4th S. xii.
425.
H. J. F.— We must first see the epitaphs in question.
METHUSELAH. — Of course, the date should be 1668.
C. E. B. — In our next "Shakspeariana."
J. H. L. A. — Returned.
Several contributions, already in type, are unavoidably
deferred.
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LONDON, SATURDAY, JANUARY 31. 1874.
CONTENTS. — N° 5.
NOTE3 :— A. Shakspeare Myth Exploded, 81 — Unpublished
Letter of John Wesley — Bishop of Ross iu Scotland, 82— A.
Yorkshire Feist — "Transmigration," 84 — Parallel Passages
— Norfolk Epitaph — The Miracle of Paray-le-Monial —
Housebreaking, a Craft— Old Kensington — Thomas Camp-
bell— Daux Anwyl ! 85 — Remarkable Mouse- Nests — A.Strange
Signature — A. Roman Catholic Visitation in 1709, 80.
QUERIES:— Authors and Quotations Wanted— The Rhee—
"St. George's Lofte"— Carious Coin or Token— Dy moke,
Skipwith, and Woodward Families — " Called Home" — Rev.
S. Rid^eway, 87 — Greek Anthology — Illustrations to "Pick-
wick"— A Second- First Climacteric— Sir Thos. Herbert of
Tintern, Btrt. — Date of a Calendar, temp. Edward II. —
Schaik, a Portrait Painter— "The Only Kid," &c.— Arith-
metic— Water-mark— The Wishing Wells of Great Britain
and Ireland — Sir John Bulley, K.G. — .\rmorial — Sir John
McGetti, 1664 — Frances Ayscough, Relict of Sir William
Ayscough, Kt., of Osgoodby, 83 — Nicholas Mortimer —
Religious Biography of a Noble Lady, circa 1650 — The
" Free Chapel " of Havering-mere — Black Priest of Weddale
— "Escrivano de Molde" — "S" versus "Z" — Portrait of
Barbor, the almost Martyr, 89.
SSPLIES:— Charles Oweu of Warrington, 90 — Irish Pro-
vincialisms — Unlawful Games of the Middle Ages, 91—
Episcopal Titles, 92 — J. S. Mill on " Liberty " — The
" Violet-Crowned " City — Turning the Faces of Busts to
the Wall, 93 — Cymblin? for Larks — "Bavin" — Graham,
Viscount Dundee— Pin-Basket, 94 — Epitaph on a Tomb-
stone at , near Paris— Gen. Thomas Harrison — "Den-
ham," Notts — "The Blinde eate manye a Flye" — Stacey
Grimaldi — Boleyn Pedigree, 95 — New Moon Superstitions —
Poplar Wood—" Crue " — " Had I not found," 9J— Heel-taps
— "Oil of Brick" — Surname "Barnes" — "Canada" —
"Quillet" — Cervantes and Shakspeare, 97 — "Sketches of
Imposture " — The Lark and the Toad — Royal Arms in
Churches — Special Forms of Prayer — The Waterloo and
Peninsular Medals— The De Quincis, 93— Polygamy, 99.
Notes on Books, &e.
A SHAKSPEARE MYTH EXPLODED.
In a long and elaborate article ou " Ben Jonson's
Quarrel with Shakespeare," which was published
in the North British Review, July, 1870, and which
appears to be claimed by Mr. Richard Simpson
(" N. & Q." 4tb S. viii. 3, col. 1), it is stated, in a
note to p. 411, that —
" There is some obscure tradition'pf a defect in Shake-
speare's legs, to which he is supposed to allude in the
sonnetfs]";
— and the writer finds an allusion to this defect in
Jonson's Poetaster, where Chloe asks Crispinus,
*' Are you a gentleman born 1" and expresses satis-
faction at sight of his little legs. (At least, if that
be not the writer's meaning, I am unable to assign
a reason for the foot-note.) This article is a perfect
hot-bed of myths, supported by the most singular
misstatements. I select this one case for exami-
nation, as a sample of several others. It is by such
a dissertation as this that false biography is con-
structed ; and for this reason I venture to ask for
space in " N. & Q." for the detection and explosion
of this myth of Shakspeare's lameness.
There never was any tradition on the subject.
The first writer who makes mention of Shakspeare's
lameness was Capell. He, however, takes credit
to himself for the hypothesis, that when Shakspeare
wrote, in Sonnet 37 —
"So I, made lame by fortune's dearest spite," &c. ]
and in Sonnet 89 —
"Speak of my lamaness, and I straightjwill halt," &c.
he was signalizing his own personal defect. After
Capell the hypothesis met with little notice, and
no entertainment. Maloae, however, speaks of it
thus : —
" A late editor, Mr. Capell, &c., conjectured that
Shakspeare was literally lame ; but the expression ap-
pears to have been only figurati/s. So again in Gorio-
lanus:
' I cannot help it now,
Unless by using means I lame the foot
Of our design.'
Again in As You Like It:
' Which I did store to be my foster-nurse.
When service should in my old limbs lie lame.'
In the 89th Sonnet the poet speaks of his friends imputing
a fault to him of which he was not guilty, and yet he
says, he would acknowledge it ; so (he adds) were he to be.
described as lame, however untruly, yet rather than his
friend should appear in the wrong, he would immediately
halt. If Shakipeare was in truth lame, he had it not in
his power to ha.lt occasionally for this or any other pur-
pose. The defect must have been fixed and permanent."
So far Malone. From the time when Malone's
common-sense note appeared in the variorum
edition of 1821, vol. xx. p. 261, CapelFs ridiculous
fancy met with no countenance. Some fifteen
years later, however, my late friend, the Rev. Win.
Harness, took up the neglected crotchet, and gavi
it careful nursing. In his Life of Shakespeare, he
re-states the hypothesis as a fact, but without any
mention of its author ! Mr. Harness's remarks
consist mainly of an answer to Malone. " It
appears," he writes, "from two places in his
Sonnets that he was lamed by accident." He then
quotes the two lines from the Sonnets.
" This imperfection would necessarily have rendered
him unfit to appear as the representative of any cha-
racters of youthful ardour in which rapidity of movement
or violence of exertion was demanded; and would oblige
him to apply his powers to such parts as were compatible
with his measured and impeded action. Malone has
most inefficiently attempted to explain away the palpable
meaning of the above lines Surely many an in-
firmity of the kind may be skilfully concealed ; or only
become visible in the moments of hurried movement.
Either Sir Walter Scott or Lord Byron might, without
any impropriety, have written the verses in question.
They would have been applicable to either of them.
Indeed the lameness of Lord Byron was exactly such as
Shakespeare's might have been; and J remember as a
boy that he selected those speeches for declamation which
would not constrain him to the use of such exertions as
might obtrude tb.3 defect of his person into notice."
Curiously enough, Mr. Harness nimself was,
during the years of my acquaintance with him, too
lame for the dissimulation which he imagined to
have afforded Shakspeare a valuable resource.)
Mr. Harness having thus converted the foolish
conjecture into a fact, it became a current remark,
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5th S. I. JAN. 31, 74.
that our three greatest poets were afflicted with
lameness !
In 1859, MR. W. J. THOMS added his little
quota to float the tradition. In " N. & Q." 2nd S.
vii. 333, he suggests that Shakspeaie's lameness
might have been occasioned by his soldiering : —
"The accident may well have happened to him while
sharing in some of those encounters from witnessing
which, as I believe, he acquired that knowledge of mili-
tary matters of which his writings contain such abundant
evidence."
By this time the myth had germinated, and was
ready for use by any forger of Shakspeare-biography ;
and thus it became " an obscure tradition." After
all, the " obscure tradition" turns out to be so
obscure as never to have existed ; the whole truth
being that the notion of Shakspeare's lameness was
a conjecture of the eighth editor of his works,
based upon a most absurd and improbable inter-
pretation of the 37th and 89th Sonnets.
It has been reserved for me to inform the world
that Shakspeare was crook-backed, for has he not
written, in Sonnet 90, the line —
" Join with the spite of fortune, make me low" ?
By Fortune's spite, then, he was a hunch-back, and
by Fortune's dearest spite, he was a limper ! It
has been recently discovered in America, that
Shakspeare had a scar over the left eye, to which
he alludes in the same Sonnet (see a recent article
on the Becker mask in the New York Herald) ;
and his ghost appeared thrice to a Stratford gentle-
man, exhibiting the newly -made gash on the fore-
head ! (See the Birmingham Daily Mail, Jan. 9,
1874.) So it is plain we shall have to construct a
new Shakspeare, who shall be halt, hunch-backed,
and scarred, like his own Richard III. JABEZ.
Athenajum Club.
UNPUBLISHED LETTER OF JOHN WESLEY.
The following are copies of two documents
relating to John Wesley, the originals of which
are preserved in the muniment room of the Charter-
house, and which I have reason to believe have
never been printed. When Wesley left Charter-
house he carried with him to Oxford an Exhibition
from the school of 20Z. a year. It appears that his
"mercer" was the channel by which the quarterly
payments reached him, banking as a separate
business being little, if at all known. It is to a
mistake of this tradesman, or his London corre-
spondent, that we are indebted for this letter of
apology to the " Treasurer of the Charterhouse."
" John King Mr " is the Rev. John King, D.D.,
Master of the Charterhouse of that date. —
" Christ Church, Nov. 3, 1721.
" Sir, — I am extreamly sorry that an accident should
happen wch has given you reason to have an ill opinion
of me, but am very much oblig'd to your Civility for
putting the most favourable Construction on it. I hope
this will satisfy you that it was by mistake and not my
design, that you have twice deliver'd the exhibition for
the first Michaelmass quarter, which indeed was through
the mistake of my Mercer who return's it, or rather thro'
the negligence of his Correspondent, who forgot to inform
him of his having receiv'd the mony. This made him
suspect that it was detain'd in which he was confirmed
by receiving no answer from London, and at Lady-day,
when I gave him my Tutor's Bill for that quarter, he
told [mej he had not receiv'd the exhibition for the first,
wch he supposed was detain'd, because I had been absent
the whole eight weeks in one quarter, and which made
him advise me to write a receit for that and the other
due at the end of the year.
" These five pounds if you please shall be deducted at
Christmass, or if that does not suit with your conveniency
shall be return'd as soon as possible.
"I am
" Sr Your oblig'd & humble Serv*
" JOHN WESLEY.'*
Addressed on the outside as follows : —
"For
Mr Eyre Treasurer of
The Charter-house,
London."
The letter has been folded, fastened with a wafer,,
and has traces of two post-marks.
' These are to certifie the Governours of the Charter-
house that John Wesley of Christ Church, Oxon., hath
resided in the said Colledge all the Quarter ending at
St. Thomas Day, 1720, except eight weeks, and is studious
and of good behaviour.
" GEO. WIGAN, M.A.
" Viewed by me " Student of Christ Church.
"John King Mr " HEN. SHERMAN, M.A.
" 16"' Jan. 1720-1. " Student of Christ Church."
" Jan. 4th 1720. Reed then of the Treasurer of y8
Charterhouse five pounds for an exhibition due thence
to John Wesley of Christ Church Coll. Oxon. at St.
Thomas' day last past.
" Witness my hand GEO. WIGAN, Tutour."
What follows is in a different hand, probably
that of the " Treasurer of the Charterhouse," or his
clerk : —
* " Memora Wesley recd twice for Xmas. Quarter 1720 as
appears by the Quarter book of Lady day & Michfis.
1721 therefore deducted at Xmas. 1721."
C. H.
BISHOP OF ROSS IN SCOTLAND, A.D. 1417-20.
The name of a bishop of this see, hitherto en
tirely unnoticed by our ecclesiastical historians,
both English and Scottish, having been recovered
by me in the course of my researches in the epis-
copal succession of the Church of Scotland between
the twelfth and sixteenth centuries, the result
appears to be deserving of record in the pages of
" N. & Q."; and as my notices of the prelate are
extremely meagre, this note may elicit some addi-
tional information, the more probably, as there is
a work now in the press, Scoti-Monasticon, by one
of your correspondents (Canon Mackenzie Walcott,
B.D.), whose attainments and qualifications for this
difficult undertaking are undoubted, and universally
acknowledged by all competent of judging. In-
5;h S. I. JAN. 31, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
83
deed, a reference to the very interesting and
valuable article on the " Ancient Church of Scot-
land" in The Sacristy (vol. ii., pp. 328-346), though
only a tentative attempt to supply a want long felt
by archaeologists, and necessarily brief and imper-
fect, affords every prospect of this desideratum
being shortly given to the world.
This bishop's name is variously stated, as Griffin,
Griffinus, Greffin, and Grisnius, by different authori-
ties, between the years 417 and 1423. The earliest
notice of him I find in Les Escossais en France,
— Les Franpais en Ecosse, par Francisque-Michel
(Londres, Triibner et Cle, 1862), where, in the Ad-
ditions and Corrections (p. 499, referring to vol. i.,
p. 124 of the same work), it is stated, " Les passages
suivants serviront a computer le tableau des rela-
tions entre la France et 1'Ecosse dans le premier
quart du XVe siecle"; and it is merely stated, "Rev.
P. in Dieu Mgr. Greffin, evesque de Eoz, 1417."
The next is inTheiner's Vetera Monumenta Hibern-
orum et Scotorum Historiam illustrantia, qua ex
Vaticani, Neapolis ac Florentice Tabulariis de-
prompsit etordine Chronologico disposuit Augusti-
nus Theiner. Ab Honorio PP. III., usque ad
Paulum PP. III. 1216-1547. (Roma; Typis
Vaticanis, 1864), where there is a letter from Pope
Martin V., dated at Constance, 1st March, 1418: —
" Venerabili fratri Griffino Epo. Rossensi, ac dilecto
•filio Fynlao de Albama, ord. Predic. professori, ac in
sacra pagina Bacalario, Nuntiis sedis Apostolice ad Reg-
num Scotie profecturis, qui Nuntii Collectores etiam in
eodem Regno constituuntur, et mandatum habent, ut
•omnes, qui ibidem Benedicto XIII. antipape adheseriut,
a censuris ecclesiasticis absolvere possint. Dat. Con-
stancie Kal. Marcii, Pontificatus nostri anno prime."
It is evident from this papal letter, written before
the close of the seventeenth General Council of
Constance, which had deposed Pope Benedict XIII.
on the 26th July, 1417, that Griffin, Bishop of
Moss, along with Fr. Finlay de Albama (Albania ?)
a Dominican, was sent to Scotland as Nuncio
Apostolic, for the purpose of absolving that nation
from the ecclesiastical censures which it had in-
curred by adherence to the above Anti-Pope, who
had previously been acknowledged as the legiti-
mate pontiff by France, Spain, Scotland, Sicily,
and Cyprus. The result of the nunciature is known
to have been that Scotland transferred its obedience
to Pope Martin V. before the month of August,
1418 ; but there appears no account of the nuncio's
proceedings, and it would be interesting to ascer-
tain if Griffinus signed the decrees of the Council
of Constance as " Bishop of Ross in Scotland."
Pope Benedict XIII. refused to submit to the
authority of the Council, but had to retire into
Spain, where he was now only acknowledged by
the King of Aragon, and died there in 1424, after
a, pontificate of upwards of thirty years, the longest
of any occupant of the papal dignity. The third
and last mention is from Morcelli's Africa Chris-
tiana, where he gives as his authority " ex lib.
arch. Sacri Colleg.," and it is as follows : — " Gris-
nius an. 1423. Episc. Rossensis in Scotia. Episc.
Hipponis Regiensis in Africa." This entry would
seem to imply that Griffin was then bishop of the
ancient see of Hippo-Regius, in Numidia, a church
province in north-western Africa, and of which
the great S. Augustine was bishop A.D. 396-430 ;
but it could have been only a titular dignity, or in
partibus infidelium, as though the bishopric of
Hippo was one of the only two sees which had
escaped the destroying rage of the Mohammedans,
A.D. 1073; it must have ceased to exist about that
time ; still a Bishop of Bona (the modern name of
Hippo) appeared again, after a century, at the
Lateran Council, A.D. 1179. There are grave diffi-
culties in the succession of occupants of the Scottish
see of Ross during the latter part of the fourteenth,
and first half, if not the whole, of the fifteenth cen-
turies, for there appear to have been three bishops
of the name of Alexander between 1350 and 1416.
Alexander I., nominated directly by Pope Cle-
ment VI. on 3rd November, 1350, on resignation
of Bishop Roger ; Alexander II., elected by
Chapter, but also nominated by apostolical authority
of Pope Gregory XI. on 9th May, 1371, on death
of Alexander (cf. Theiner, pp. 294, 342), and the
Kalendar of Feme (MS. in Dunrobin Castle),
records, among other obits, " ob. bone memoriedni.
Alex, frylquhous epi. rossen q. obiit vi die mesis.
julij ano. m°ccc° nonagesimo octauo"; and Alex-
ander III. was Bishop of Ross in 1404, and still
sitting in March, 1416 ; and I leave this crux in
ecclesiastical chronology to be settled by competent
writers like Canon Walcott or Professor Stubbs.
Griffin must, therefore, be inserted as Bishop of
Ross between 1416 and 1420, for we find John
Touch to have been " bishop-elect and confirmed "
on 10th July, 1420 ; and he signs as " Episcopus
Rossensis " on 14th August of that year, between
which two dates he must have been consecrated ;
so that our Griffin had apparently resigned the
see, and been created Bishop of Hippo v.p.i. pre-
viously to July, 1420, and been titular of the latter
episcopal see at Rome in 1423. I shall not here
attempt to follow out the succeeding rulers of my
native diocese after the last appearance of Bishop
John, of Ross, in 1439, soon after which he must
have vacated it, if indeed this reference in Keith
is to be relied upon, which is doubtful, for there is
an allusion to " Thome de Tulach Epi. Rossensis "
in a letter of Pope Eugene IV. to Andrew Munro,
Archdeacon of Ross, dated 7th March, 1445, while
Thomas Urquhart is recorded as bishop there in
April, 1441, and down to 1455 ; and Thomas Tul-
loch appears (from an inscription on a bell at Fort-
rose) as Bishop of Ross in 1460 !
Again, in the Orkneyinga Saga (lately carefully
edited by Joseph Anderson, Keeper of the National
Museum of the Antiquaries of Scotland, and pub-
lished at Edinburgh by Edmonston & Douglas
84
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5th S. I. JAN. 31, 74.
1873) it is stated (under " The Bishopric of Orkney,
1060-1469," p. Ixxviii.) that " Thomas de Tulloch,
fourteenth bishop, first appears in existing records
in 1418. He seems to have been previously Bishop
of Ross." These discrepancies I confess my in-
ability to reconcile satisfactorily, nor do the diffi-
culties decrease subsequently, when Henry is
"electus et confirmatus Rossen." on 19th October,
1463, on an embassy to England in April, 1473,
and the see vacant 16th August, 1477, when John
Wodman de May was " Prior and Postulate of
Ross." Finally, another Thomas, " Bishop of Ross,"
founded the Collegiate Church of Tain 12th Sept.,
1481, and is called Bishop of Ross in 1487, although
it is clear, from documentary evidence, that William
Elphinstone, was " electus, confirmatus Rossensis,"
on 18th March, 1481-2, and sat in Parliament on
2nd Dec., 1482, by that title, though not conse-
crated till after his translation to the see of Aber-
deen, which took place between 17th May and
27th July, 1484, and according to Fasti Aberdo-
nensis (Preface by C. Innes, p. 44), "between 17th
December, 1487, and April, 1488." fed jam satis.
A. S. A.
.Richmond.
A YORKSHIRE FEAST. — At Woolley Park, G.
W. Wentworth's, is preserved the following account
of the feast at Wentworth Woodhouse, on the
coming of age of the last Marquess of Rockingham.
It is also mentioned in the Gentleman's Magazine,
July, 1751 :-
An Account of the preparation and Entertainment given
by the Rt. Honourable Charles, Marquess of RocJcing-
Aam, on Monday, the 13 May, 1751.
One Ox weighed 120 stones lllb., and the Tallow 26
stones 61b.
Another Ox weighing 103 stones 31b. The Tallow, 18
stones lllb.
A lesser pair, weighing 142 stones.
Fifteen Sheep, weighing 95 stones 61b.
Nine Calves, weighing 67 stones 61b.
Fifteen Lambs, unweighed.
Pigeons, one hundred do/en.
Fowls and Chickens, 177.J
Hams, 48.
For bread and pyes, 3 hundred and 50 Bushels.
Salmon to pickle, sixty pounds.
Cod and Salmon dressed fresh, 32 stones.
Crabs and Lobsters, a horse load.
A chest of China Oranges.
A Sill of Fare.
110 dishes of roast Beef.
10 Pyes.
48 Hams.
40 dishes of Fowl and Chicken.
50 dishes of Mutton.
55 dishes of Lamb.
75 dishes of Veal.
104 dishes of Fish.
100 Tarts and Cheesecakes.
60 dishes of Crafish, Crabs, and Lobsters.
Upwards of 24 Tables was intermixt with
each two dishes of China Oranges.
Tables, 55.
In the Grand Hall was 383 seats.
In the drawing room one hundred and ten.
In the anty room ninety and five,
In the corner room fifty and two.
In the Far room one hundred forty and six,
In the new servants' Hall one hundred and three,
In the Steward's Hall thirty and two.
In the old servants' Hall thirty and six.
In Bedlam and Tower four hundred and twelve.
In the Dining room sixty and six.
In the Supping room thirty and eight.
In the Pillar'd Hall three hundred and four.
In the Lobby thirty and six.
In the Powder rocm thirty and two.
Liquors.
?mall Beer at dinner, Three Hogsheads,
strong at dinner, seventeen Hogsheads,
i'unch, six Hogsheads,
'ortwine, seventy dozen of bottles.
Claret, not counted.
24 Hogsheads of Strong Beer and Ale was distributed to
the people without the Doors.
Seats and Tents were prepared for 5,500 without the
Doors.
EDWARD HAILSTONE.
"TRANSMIGRATION" (London: Hurst £
Blackett. 3 vols.). — In this interesting novel, the
author, Mr. Mortimer Collins, thus explains the
motif of the story : —
( The idea of an experience of metempsychosis has
dwelt in my mind since, walking with one of England's
great poets on the terrace of Kydal Mount, in full sight
of that 'aerial rock' which he loved to greet at morn
and leave last at eventide, he answered an inquiry of
mine with the immortal words on my title-page : —
i ' Our birth is but a flee p and a forgetting;
The eoul that rises with us, our life's star,
Hath had elsewhere its setting,
And cometh from afar.' "
There can be no doubt that Wordsworth is here
only expressing an idea which we find more fully
developed in the sixth jEneid of Virgil, where it
is a supposition that the souls of the departed,
after certain periods, return again into the world
to animate new bodies. But Virgil, in turn, does
but amplify an idea to be found in the fourth
antistrophe of Pindar's second Olympic ode : —
" All, whose stedfast virtue thrice
Each side the grave unchanged hath stood
Still usseduced, unstained with vice
They by Jove's mysterious road
Pass to Saturn's realm of rest."
Therefore, whatever the fact may be, the idea cer-
tainly " cometh from afar" — B.C. 520.
But do we not assent to the theory when we say
"there is nothing new under the sun "1 Nay, did
not Terence, more than two thousand years ago,
anticipate this very saying, when he complained
in one of his prologues that nothing could be
said which had not been said before 1
ROYLE ENTWISLE, F.R.H.S.
Farnworth, Bolton.
5th S. I. JAN. 31, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
PARALLEL PASSAGES. — Isaiah says, chap. lix.
14, 15—
" Arid judgment is turned away backward, and justice
standeth afar off ; for truth is fallen in the street, and
equity cannot enter. Yea, truth faileth."
Of which the LXX. rendering is —
KCU aTrecrT^cra/xev oTricra) rrjv Kpicriv, KCU
i] SLKaiocrvv?) /xaKpav d^earrrjKfv d<f> nfjLiav' OT6
KaTrjvaXiodr) ev TOU? oSois avrwv r] aAry^eia, Kal
Si €i>#et'as OVK r/8vvavTO 8ie\0etv. Kcu t'j d
yprai.
Euripides says, Medea, 411-415 —
roTa//,ov
ov(TL Trcrycu,
Kat mica KCU Travra TraAtv o-Tpe
dvSpda-L fjLev 86X10.1 ftovXat' Oewv 8'
oviccrt TTtcrTis dpape.
Which Potter turns —
" Refluent and mounting to their source
The sacred streams are roll'd ;
And Truth no more her righteous course
Nor Justice knows to hold :
All things are chang'd : insidious trains
Are man's ; nor heav'nly Faith remains."
The ideas seem to me identical.
EDMUND TEW, M.A.
NORFOLK EPITAPH. — The following epitaph was
copied by a clergyman in this neighbourhood from
a monument on the outside of the churchyard wall
at Haddiscoe, Norfolk : —
" Here lies Will Salter, honest man,
Deny it envy, if you can ;
True to his business and his trust,
Always punctual, always just ;
His horses, could they speak, would tell
They loved their good old Master well.
His up-hill work is chiefly done,
His stage is ended, race is run.
One journey yet remaineth still,
To climb up Zion's Holy Hill,
And, now his faults are all forgiven,
Elijah-like drive up to Heaven,
Take the reward of all his pains,
And leave to other hands the reins.
William Salter,
Yarmouth Stage Coachman,
Died Oct. 9, 1776,
Aged 59 years."
W. D. B.
Reepham, Norwich.
THE MIRACLE OF PARAY-LE-MONIAL. — Tra-
dition tells us that, on two occasions, Mohammed
was the subject of a -similar miracle : —
1. " Two angels took out Mohammed's heart when he
was a boy, purified it in snow, then weighed it, and found
it weightier than all the thousands they put into the
other scale."— E. Deutsch, Art. " Islam," Quart. Rev., vol.
127, p. 328.
2. "As I (Mohammed) was within the enclosure of the
Kaaba, behold one (Gabriel) came to me with another,
and cut me open from the pit of the throat to the groin ;
this done, he took out my heart, and presently there was
brought near me a golden basin full of the water of faith ;
and he washed my heart, stuffed it, and replaced it." —
Abulfeda, quoted by Ockley, Hist, of the Saracens, p. 2&
(Bohn).
A. L. MAYHEW.
Oxford.
HOUSEBREAKING, A CRAFT.— That the above is
a fact, the British public know too well ; but that
its professors should proclaim themselves as such,
is a fact only this day made known to me at least.
I have just seen two or three carts standing at
Somerset House, with the calling of their pro-
prietors painted on them in plain letters, thus —
" Housebreaker and Contractor." Seriously, I
know of " Shipbreakers," but " Housebreaker " aa
the name of a legitimate trade is new to me.
W. J. BERNHARD SMITH.
Temple.
OLD KENSINGTON. — I lately found this " cutting"
referring to Old Kensington. Baron Grant has-
obliterated Jenning's Buildings, and from his.
pleasure-grounds the dial will be visible : —
" On the south side of High Street, nearly mid-way
between Young Street and the entrance to the well-nigh,
defunct Jenning's Buildings, the old inn, ' Red Lion,' was
entered by a yard which still remains. About forty feet
from the ground on the south wall of the old house a
large stone slab let into the wall forms the plate of a sun-
dial, the gnomon of which is so long that it is supported?
by a strong S-like prop of iron. This dial, which would
be visible from all parts of the coaching yard, has been,
examined, and the following was found engraved on it : —
' 17 Loose no Time 13
A. The Royal Crown. R.
William Munden,
May y 5.'
This William Munden was a 'Barber Chirurgeon '
(surgery was not constituted a distinct science and art
till 1745). He held property in various parts of Kensing-
ton, and was churchwarden of the parish church, 1698."
J. M.
THOMAS CAMPBELL. — I have in my possession?
an autograph letter from Thomas Campbell, the
poet, in reply to a request of mine that he would
cause to be published, in an edition of his collected
works, his lines on the death of William Wallace.
He stated, as his reason for not doing so, his fear
of being unjustly accused of borrowing from Wolfe's
" Burial of Sir John Moore." I answered that I
saw no pretext for such a calumny, unless, perhaps,
the accident that he had written " his head unen-
tombed shall in glory be shrined." I think some
future edition of Campbell's poems ought to con-
tain those noble lines, " The Dirge of Wallace." I
presume the poet felt annoyed at the absurd accu-
sations made against him of plagiarism in the case
of " The Exile of Erin " — a charge circulated by
some silly and credulous people, on the traditional
authority of some deceased old lady or other.
•S. T. P.
DEUX ANWYL ! — I was always under the im-
pression that the word " Anwyl " was one of the
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[5th S. I. JAN. 31, '74.
most musical in the Welsh language, but true it is
we never see ourselves as others see us ; so I was
not surprised, in turning over old leaves of " N. & Q."
the other day, to find (Oct. 21, 1871) a well-known
explorer into one branch of literature, — in asking,
" Who was the author of the novel Reginald Treon*,
by Edward Treon Anwyl"! — falling foul of the
word, thus, " Anwyl would make ' Wanly,' for ex-
ample, and look more Christian-like ! " But I am
surprised that a gentleman who tortures his own
name into such an anagram as OLPHAR HAMST
should think any word unmusical ! "Anwyl" is
a " good " old Welsh adjective (often found as a
surname), " dear" to Welshmen ; and which not un-
frequently passes his lips when he nurses his little
one or worships his God. CYMRO AM BYTH.
REMARKABLE MOUSE-NESTS. — In a work, by
the Rev. J. G. Wood, M.A., entitled Strange
Dwellings (Longmans & Co., London), that is, homes
constructed without the aid of hands, and planned
by instinct, there is (p. 388), inter alia, the following
account of two remarkable mouse-nests, and which,
though only relative to a ridiculus mus, I have
made a note of: —
"A number of empty bottles had been stowed away
upon a shelf, and among: them was found one which was
tenanted by a mouse. The little creature had considered
that the bottle would afford a suitable home for her
young, and had therefore conveyed into it a quantity of
bedding, which she made into a nest. The bottle was
filled with the nest, and the eccentric architect had taken
the precaution to leave a round hole corresponding to the
neck of the bottle. In this remarkable domicile the
young were placed ; and it is a fact worthy of notice that
no attempt had been made to shut out the light. Nothing
would have been easier than to have formed the cavity
at the underside, so that the soft materials of the nest
would exclude the light ; but the mouse had simply
formed a comfortable hollow for her young, arid therein
she had placed her offspring. It is, therefore, evident
that the mouse has no fear of light, but that it only
chooses darkness as a means of safety for its young."
The second case is this : — •
" The rapidity with which the mouse can make a nest
is somewhat surprising. One of the Cambridge journals
mentioned, some few years ago, that in a farmer's house
a loaf of newly-baked bread was placed upon a shelf,
according to custom. Next day a hole was observed in
the loaf; and when it was cut open, a mouse and her
nest were discovered within, the latter having been made
of paper. On examination, the material of the habita-
tion was found to have been obtained from a copy-book,
which had been torn into shreds, and arranged into the
form of a nest. Within this curious home were nine
young mice, pink, transparent, and newly born. Thus,
in the space of thirty-six hours at the most, the loaf must
have cooled, the interior been excavated, the copy-book
found and cut into suitable pieces, the nest made, and
the young brought into the world. Surely it is no wonder
that mice are so plentiful, or that their many enemies fail
to exterminate them."
FREDK. RULE.
A STRA.XGE SIGNATURE. — The old writers on
nat ural signatures were unacquainted wiVh one
of a most strange and singular character. When
the seed-lobes of the Tonquin bean are separated,
the radicle and plumule will be found to form a
(sometimes more and sometimes less) perfect female
arm and hand, with outstretched fingers !
THOS. SATCHELL.
Oak Village, N.W.
A ROMAN CATHOLIC VISITATION IN 1709. —
Perhaps the following verbatim transcript from an
original letter amongst the Gibson MSS., in Lam-
beth Palace Library, may be thought worthy of a
place in your columns. It is addressed to Arch-
bishop Tenison by a Lancashire clergyman of
family and position, and appears to contain points
of interest : —
" Blackburne, Nov. 3, 1709.
" May it please your grace, — According to your Lord-
ship's Directions, I have made the best enquiry I could
to find out the particular Circumstances of the Popish
Bishop's Visitation within my parish, & the Discover.es
I have made are as follows —
" The first week in July (wch was the next week after
my Lord of Chester held his Visitation here) Bishop
Smith came to Mr. Walmsley's, of Lower Hall, in
Samlesbury, within my Parish, & Confirmed there on
•Friday, Saturday, and Sunday (vizt) the 8th, 9th, and
10th of July. I cannot find that any Persons of Note
were there or any Protestants, except one or two of Mr.
Walmsley's Servants who dare make no Discoveries of
these matters. The number of the Papists that were
there was very great ; Mr. Hull, my curate at Samlesbury
Chappel tells me that he see multitudes goe that way
past his house, some on foot, some on horse-back, most of
them with little Children in their Arms ; But the greatest
Concourse of people was on Sunday, because the Bishop
was to preach that day. The neighboring Protestants
seemed to take little Notice of this matter, it being no
Novelty with them, the same Bishop haveing been there
upon the same occasion about 5 years agoe. I think the
Papists have been a little more reserved this, then (sic)
they were the last time the Bishop was in this Neighbor-
hood. For then they made great Boasts of their vast
Numbers, But now I have heard nothing from any of
them of this matter. If this account be not so perfect
as your Grace could wish, I desire you will not impute
it to my Negligence, but to the unwillingness of people
in this country to intermeddle agst Papists, wch if it
should come to any of their Ears they would study to
requite them with the greatest mischiefe they could
think of; And indeed 'tis dangerous medling with them
here, where they bear down all before them with theii
Power & Interest. I do not know that my Lord of
Chester has any Notice of this matter, but if jour Grace
think fitt I shall communicate it to him. I am, my
Lord, Your Grace's most obliged & Obedient Son &
•Serv', Jo: HOLME."
Indorso—'- The most reverend Father in God
his Grace the Lord Arch-Bp of Canterbury, at
his Palace at Lambeth. These." Post-mark —
" Preston, Nov. 9." Heraldic seal, with 4
quarterings — the first and fourth, barry of six
with a canton. Library, Lambeth Palace.
Gibson MSS., No. 930.
FREDERICK GEORGE LEE.
6, Lambeth Terrace.
5th S. I. JAN. 31, '74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
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on family matters of only private interest, to affix their
names and addresses to their queries, in order that the
answers may be addressed to them direct.]
AUTHORS AND QUOTATIONS WANTED. —
" We are spirits clad in veils,
Man, by man, was never seen ;
All our deep communion fails
To remove that shadowy screen."
" To thank with brief thanksgiving
* * * *
That even the weariest river
Winds somewhere safe to sea."
T. W. C.
POLIZIANO. —
Ka/DTrov efj.oi TroBfoi'Tif (TV S'dvOea </>vAAa •
/J.OVVOV
(rrjfjLaivovcr3 OTTL fJiarrjv TTOVCOJ.
Name of work and page ? R. S. CHARNOCK.
Gray's Inn.
" Aiunt, — Thai saye,
Quid aiunt, — Quhat saye thai 'I
Aiant, — Lat thaim saye."
H. A. W.
" We shall march prospering— not through his presence,
Songs may inspirit us — not from his lyre ;
Deeds will be done — while he boasts his quiescence,
Still bidding crouch whom the rest bade aspire."
A FOREIGNER.
In a sermon preached in 1661, the following
occurs :—
"Pray for the king's health, but drink only for your
own, remembering the poet's advice :
' Una salus sanis, nullam potare salutem,
Non est in pota vera salute talus.' "
Who is the poet ? The first line is an adaptation of
^Eneid, ii. 354 : —
" Una salus victis, nullam sperare salutem."
T. LEWIS O. DAVIES.
Pear Tree Vicarage, Southampton.
" He did not know, poor beast, why love should not be
true to death."
A. O. V. P.
" We may live without Poetry, Music, and Art," &c.
W. A. C.
A Persian saying, that our bliss on earth —
" Is not in pleasure but in ease from pain."
" That seeking others' good, we find our own."
" In Fame's eternal temple shine for aye."
" But no Elisha in Elijah's room."
" Trammelled and bound in custom's changeless school,
Absurd by system, frivolous by rule."
" Cold lookers on, they say,
Can better judge than those who play."
" When Hope, long doubtful, soared at length sublime."
H. N. C.
THE RHEE.— In Taylor's Words and Places,
p. 270, on river names, in connection with the root
" Rhe," or " Rliin," he states that the Rhee is in
Cambridgeshire. What part of the county is it. in ?
There is an old watercourse, "TheWryde," near
Thorney. Is that the stream intended ?
GYRVE.
" ST. GEORGE'S LOFTE."— On an inquiry being
made, temp. Edw. VI., into the furniture, &c.>
belonging to the Church of Kimbolton, Hunts, it
was found that — " Also solde by Thomas Rolling,.
&c., wth thassent of all .... a Lofte, called
St. George's Lofte, for xvj8." What can this have
been ? T. N. FERNIE.
CURIOUS COIN OR TOKEN. — My servant recently
picked up, while digging in rny garden in Hamp-
shire, a coin or token, bearing on one side a pair
of scales evenly balanced, with a fishing-hook
under the left-hand scale ; and on the reverse side
a heart, with a broad edge to it, and beneath, the
figures " 1794." The edge is milled, but rather
worn, and the coin is made of some dark metal not
unlike bronze. Is it a coin or token ?
N. H. R.
DYMOKE, SKIPWITH, AND WOODWARD FAMI-
LIES.— Burke, in the Peerage and Baronetage,
under " Skipwith," says that —
"Sir William (Skipwith) m., 2ndly, Alice, dau. and
heir of Sir Lionel Dymoke, of Scrivelsby, in the co. of
Lincoln, and by her acquired a considerable estate, and
left an only child, Henry, ancestor of the Skipwiths of
Prestwould.'!
Should this not be " an only son "'? My pedigree
asserts that Richard Wood ward, of Butler's Merston
(d. 14th August, 1556), was son of John Wood-
ward, of Butler's Merston, by his marriage with
" Dorothy, dau. of Sir Wm. Skipwith, by Alice,
heiress of Sir Lionel Dymoke"; and that she died
Nov. 8, 1554. I think the privately printed
history of the Skipwiths confirms this statement.
JOHN WOODWARD.
" CALLED HOME." — I was looking through the
registers of a country parish in Dorsetshire a short
time ago, and came across several entries of mar-
riages, written about the middle of the seventeenth
century, where the expression " called home " was
used to denote the publication of the banns. This
is, however, but the Dorset vernacular for the
same. The register recorded their publication in
due course, on " three several Lord's daies," with
ihe exception of one I noticed to be on " three
several market daies."
I would ask, was it ever usual in olden times for
the banns to be published on market days instead
of on Sundays ? J. S. UDAL.
Junior Athenaeum Club.
REV. SAMUEL RIDGEWAY, OF BASINGSTOKE.—
Where can any information be obtained regarding
lim and his writings 1 A. G.
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5(b S. I. JAN. 31, 74.
GREEK ANTHOLOGY. — Which is the best, fullest,
and completest edition of the Greek Anthology 1
A FOREIGNER.
ILLUSTRATIONS TO " PICKWICK.'--— I want the
.names of the artists who did " Illustrations to the
Pickwick Club, edited by ' Boz,' by Samuel Weller,
to be completed in eight parts. The local scenery
sketched on the spot." London, E. Grattan, 1838.
Why is " edited by Boz " put in 1 because the
original Pickwick (1838) has for title, " The
Posthumous Papers of the Pickwick Club, by
•Charles Dickens "1 Perhaps the first few numbers
of Pickwick were "edited by Boz." It is well
known how particular Dickens was about his
illustrations, so I cannot think that these Weller
plates were published under his authority, as they
are very bad. NEPHRITE.
A SECOKD-FIRST CLIMACTERIC. — In the chancel
'•of Sidbury Church, Devonshire, is a brass plate
inscribed — " 1650. Hie jacet Henricus, Eoberti
Parsonii filius ; qui exiit anno aetatis suse climac-
terico AeurepoTrpwTO)." The Lancet has invited
•explanations as to the age at which Henry died.
The replies which its correspondents give are con-
flicting, e. gr. —
1. On the second climacteric after the first, i. e., at 21.
2. On the second principal climacteric, whichever
that may be.
3. In the year next to the first climacteric, i.e., at 8.
4. <( Undoubtedly the meaning is, he died in his 63rd
year."
5. In the second of his grand climacterics, i. e., at 126.
To myself the language of the epitaph seems to
point to Henry's being a young person, with a
father still living, and so to exclude the last two
•conjectures. CYRIL.
SIR THOMAS HERBERT OF TINTERN, BART. —
Who was he ? He is referred to in the margin o:
Dugdale's Baronage, ii. 258, as the possessor of s
manuscript therein referred to as an authority.
J. F. M.
DATE OF A CALENDAR, TEMP. EDW. II. — I have
"before me an ancient calendar, in which the 2Vtl
of March is marked " Eesurrectio Domini," witl
" B" for the Sunday Letter. The Black Prime, 01
"Golden Number, opposite the 21st of March, ii
xvi. In what year was the calendar written 1 I
purports to belong to the first half of the fourteentl
-century. M. D. T. N.
SCHAAK, A PORTRAIT PAINTER. — I am anxiou
to learn something of him. He was practising hi
^rt in 1760 or 1765. J. R. B.
" THE ONLY KID," &c.— Is anything known o
the origin of the two curious compositions at th
•end of the Passover Service of the German Jews
•" The Only Kid" and " Who Knows One Thing'
Ire they in the Talmud, or what is the earliest
ate at which they are found ? J. T. F.
Hatfield Hall, Durham.
ARITHMETIC. — I have been asked for informa-
ion about an old system of arithmetic, in which
urns — especially- addition sums — may be proved
y " casting out the nines." This is rather a vague
ay of putting it, but I know no other. Is there
ny book which I can consult, or will any corre-
pondent assist me ? M. H. S. C.
WATER-MARK. — On the paper of an old etching
epresenting an aged, miserable, worn-out, shoeless
lorse, turned out on a common to die, and standing
verthe carcase of a dead one which dogs are about to
.evour, is a water-mark of some emblems resembling
water-wheel, or a circle of palings, &c., and the
>vords PRO PATRIA H D. What is the date and
;ountry of this paper 1 The etching itself may be
; copy, made at the time, after Paul Potter or
ome other old master of the Low Countries. Is
here any book on water-marks ?
GEORGE R. JESSE.
Henbury, Macclesfield.
THE WISHING WELLS OF GREAT BRITAIN AND
[RELAND. — Can any of your readers give me some
information respecting the customs observed at the
wishing wells in Great Britain and Ireland, or any
luperstitions connected with them ? C. L. W.
[See 4th S. xii. 227, 298.]
SIR JOHN BTJRLEY, K.G. — Wanted the date,
actual or approximate, of the death of Sir John
Burley, K.G., temp. Richard II., called Messire
Jehan le Burle in a list, in French, printed in
Heylin's Historie of St. George, p. 351. J. F. M.
ARMORIAL. — To whom does a coat of arms,
" argent, a chevron engrailed gules, between three
mullets pierced, vert," belong ? It is engraved on
a sun-dial in the garden of a very old house in
Hampshire. B. L.
SIR JOHN McGETTi, 1664. — In the records of
baptisms for the parish of Dirleton, East Lothian,
there is the following entry : —
"1664. Sep. 4. Geo. Heriot, a son named John.
Witnesses, Sir John McGetti and Livingstone of Salt-
coats."
Can you give any particulars regarding this Sir
John McGetti, or mention where such are likely to
be found ? B.
Edinburgh.
FRANCES AYSCOUGH, RELICT OF SIR WILLIAJI
AYSCOUGH, KT., OF OSGOODBY. — She made her
will, dated December 1, 1711, in which she desires
to be buried in the parish church of St. Hellen in
Yorke, " nigh to my dear mother there buried."
She leaves to Sir Win. Hawksworth ten broads ;
5* S. I. JAH. 31, 74.1
NOTES AND QUERIES.
to Lady Hawksworth, his wife (her granddaughter),
her diamond ear-rings, &c. ; to Mr. Fawkes ten
broads, and to Mrs. Fawkes, her granddaughter,
her table of plate, &c. ; to Mr. Mann, minister of
Kilborne, her right and interest in a farm at
Button under Whitsoncliffe ; to Dorothy, the wife
of Richard Utley, fifty shillings yearly ; to her
cousin, Mrs. Spencer, 501., &c. ; Mrs. Fairfax, 20Z. ;
to Cosen Elizabeth Aysoough, of Yorke, 5Z., &c. ;
to Frances, the daughter of Cosen Edward Masters,
201. ; to John Corbut, her cosen, 101. ; to Cousin
Elizabeth Breary, twenty broads. Query — Who.se
•daughter was Lady Ayscough 1
GEO. J. ARMYTAGE.
Clifton, Brighouse.
NICHOLAS MORTIMER. — There was a royal
chantry in the Lady Chapel of Chichester, founded
by King Henry V. ; the purpose of the endowment
includes the name of Nicholas Mortimer, a kins-
man of the royal family. Who was he 1
MACKENZIE E. C. WALCOTT.
RELIGIOUS BIOGRAPHY OP A NOBLE LADY,
CIRCA 1650. — In a sermon, delivered about 1652,
Dr. Fuller, pleading for moderation in fasting,
refers to —
"A noble lady whose religious life is lately printed;
who some hours before her death, being in perfect mind
and memory, called for a cup of wine, and spake to her
kinswoman. ' If God,' said she, ' restore me to my health
again, I will never macerate my body so much, to disable
it, as I have done with my fasting.' " «
Who is meant ? JOHN E. BAILEY.
THE " FREE CHAPEL " OF HAVERING-MERE. —
I read in Richard Parker's View of Cambridge,
translated from the Latin into English by Richard
Hearn (Parker was a son of Archdeacon Parker, a
former rector of this parish), that Thomas, of
Castle Bernard;, in addition to other preferments,
was " Warden of the Free Chapel of Havering-
rnere, now Harrimere Chapel, in the Parish of
Streatham, but upon the river of Ely, and Canon
of Aukland, with the Prebend of Fishwashe. A
notable Benefactor, who resign'd his wardenship
about the year of our Lord 1426." I shall be
glad to know the meaning of the expression " Free
Chapel," and how such free chapels were usually
served. In this instance the chapel has dis-
appeared long since ; but I suspect that there were
many such chapels formerly in the Fen district.
HUGH PIGOT.
Stretham Rectory, Ely.
BLACK PRIEST OF WEDDALE. — Who was this
mysterious and rather important personage, who
appears to have nourished about the middle of the
thirteenth century 1 All I have been able to ascer-
tain is that, along with the old Earl of Fife and
the Lord of Abernethy in Scotland, he shared in
the transcendant privilege of sanctuary. According
to Wyntoun (Cronyldl, bk. vi. c. xix. L 38, et seq.)
there were only three originally who were partakers
in such a right : —
" That is, ye blak prest of Weddale,
The Thane of Fyfe, and ye thryd syn
Quhaewyse be Lord of Abernethyne " ;
and in the oldest Border treaty, 1249 (Border
Laws, 4), is found, "pro domino Episcopo Sancti
Andrete jurabit Presbyter de Weddale." Where
was " Weddale" situated? It can hardly be Wear-
dale, in the county of Durham. The Bishop of
St. Andrews, in 1249, was David de Bernhame,
who, while Great Chamberlain (1228) to Alexander
II., King of Scots, was elected to that see, 1239,
June 3, and consecrated on January 22 following,
Fest. of S. Vincent, M., by the Bishops of Glas-
gow, Caithness, and Dunblane. He anointed the
young King Alexander III. at Scone, on July 13,
1249, and died 1253, April 26, at Newthorn, near
Berwick (of which town he was a native), his
remains being interred in the abbey church of
Kelso.' A. S. A.
" ESCRIVANO DE MoLDE." — In Montalvos'
Copilacion de Leyes, printed at Burgos in 1488,
the colophon runs thus : — " Este libro se imprimio
en la muy noble y muy leal cibdad de burgos por
maestre fadrique aleinan escrivano de molde, 28 Set.,
1488," &c. The phrase, "Escrivano de Molde"
(writer by types, forms, or moulds) is very interest-
ing. Can any of your readers mention other books
in which it occurs ? WM. BRAGGE, F.S.A.
" S " VERSUS " Z." — Some years ago, an elderly
correspondent of mine used to amuse me by always
writing " surprized." I was under the impression
that this was an obsolete spelling. But in a certain
series of proof-sheets which have passed through
my hands during last autumn, I find poor letter s
constantly ousted by 2. " Teaze," " realize," " ad-
vertize/' &c. Are we about to desert s for z, or is
my compositor eccentric ? HERMEKTRUDE.
PORTRAIT OF BARBOR, THE ALMOST MARTYR. —
The Rev. William Valentine, the late vicar of St.
Thomas's, Stepney, had in his possession a fine
portrait (on panel) of Barbor, who after he was
tied to the stake 'was saved from martyrdom by
the death of Queen Mary. To commemorate his
preservation, lie is said to have had this portrait
painted, and a jewel made, consisting of a minia-
ture of Elizabeth, set round with precious stones
(see Gentleman's Magazine for December, 1840,
p. 602, where both are engraved). By his will
these memorials were to descend as heirlooms, but
in the course of time they were separated, and
some years ago Mr. Valentine became the possessor
of the picture. Are there now in existence any of
the representatives of Barbor who might desire to
possess the portrait 1 Mr. Valentine once received
some proposals for this purpose. W. J. T.
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[5th S. I. JAN. 31, 7».
CHARLES OWEN OF WARRINGTON.
(1st S. viii. 492.)
The following is in answer to a query that ap-
peared twenty years ago. Charles Owen was a
brother of James Owen, a nonconforming minister
of Salop. Their father was John Owen of Abernaut,
near Caermarthen ; he had nine children, of whom
James, the second son, was born Nov. 1, 1654, and
died April 8, 1706. Charles Owen was probably
younger than James ; the earliest mention I have
found of him is on June 16, 1702, at an Ordination
of Dissenting Ministers, held in Warrington by
Matthew Henry, Bisley, Ainsworth, &c., "Mr.
Charles Owen began with Prayer and Beading."
On August 18, in the same year, there was another
ordination at Wrexham, by Matthew Henry, James
Owen, &c., when " Mr. Charles Owen, Mr. Jenkin
Thomas, and Mr. Benyon pray'd; Mr. J. Owen
pray'd and preach'd," &c.
In The Jacobite Trials at Manchester, edited by
W. Beamont, Esq., for the Chetham Society,
p. 53 :—
" We have also a bill found against Owen, our Presbe-
terion minister of our towne, for publishing that book
•which I sent you by your brother Legh, which will whip
his pockett, for the coppey will cost him 3CM. or 40£., the
haveing sett forth the whole book in the bill of indicte-
ment." — Letter from J. Goulborne (steward of the Legh
family at Warrington) to P. Legh, Esq., att Lyme.
The book referred to is evidently his Plain
Dealing, 1715, for among the Rawl. MSS. in the
Bodleian Library, I find an Answer to Plain
Dealing, &c., dedicated —
"To the HonWe and worthy Gentlemen the Grand-
jury of Lancashire.
"Gentlemen, — I can recommend this performance
to the protection of none so propper as to your selves,
•who have so eminently signalized your zeal in defence of
our holy Religion by a just and legal prosecution of the
author of this Pamphlet, who, it seems, has his residence
amongst you.
" I should not have presumed to meddle in this matter
after you had concerned your selves, were it not that I
am sensible the contagion has spread abroad, where your
happy influence has no authority to exert itselfe, and,
therefore, I thought it necessary that something by way
of antidote should be published, in order to stop the
poison.
" So, hopeing you '11 still persevere in your care for
the preservation of our Holy Religion against all it's
enemies, I beg leave to subscribe my selfe
Gentlemen, yr most obedient arTt.,
D. W."
Walter Wilson, in his History of Dissenting
Churches, vol. iii., p. 514 (8vo. Lond., 1810), says :
— "We have seen a sermon* upon the Queen's
death [Aug. 1, 1714] by Dr. Owen, of Warrington."
In Bogue and Bennett's Hist, of Dissenters, vol. i.,
1808), speaking of James
for Scripture Ordination,
* On the text — " And Ahab, the son of Omri, did evil
in the sight of the Lord above all that were before him."
—1 Kings xvi. 20.
p. 426 (8vo., Lond.,
Owen and his Plea
published in 1694 : —
" After his decease, Charles Owen, his brother,
prosecuted the subject. He published a Vindication of
the Plea, a Treatise on the Superiority of Ordination by
Presbyters to that of Bishops, &n& a. History of Ordination?
which had all been begun by his brother James, and
were completed by him ; and in them he notices and
exposes the arguments of Mr. Gipps, rector of Bury, h
Lancashire, who had written against James Owen'a
Plea for Presbyterian Ordination."
I subjoin a list of works by C. Owen : —
1. Some account of the Life and Writings of James
Owen. 12mo., Lond., 1709. (Bodl.)
2. The Scene of Delusions Open'd, in an Historical
Account of Prophetick Impostures. 12mo., Lond., 1712.
(J. F. Marsh, Esq.)
3. Hymns Sacred to the Lord's-Table, Collected and
Methodiz'd. By Charles Owen. Sm. 8vo., Leverpoole,
1712. (The late Dr. Robson.)
4. Donatus Redivivus: or, a Reprimand to a Modern
Church Schismatick. (Anon.) Lond., 1714. (" N. & Q.")
Republ. as Rebaptization Condemned. Lond., 1716.
(" N. & Q.")
5. Plain Dealing : or Separation without Schism and
Schism without Separation. 8vo. Lond., 1715. (Bodl.)
12th edition. 8vo., Lond., 1727. (Brit. Mus.)
6. Validity of Dissenting Ministry. 8vo., Lond., 1716.
(Brit. Mus.)
7. A Funeral Sermon for the Rev. Mr. T. Risley. Svo.,
Lond., 1716. (Brit. Mus.)
8. A Vindication of Plain Dealing from the Aspersions
of two Country Curates, contained in a Pamphlet entitled,
Plain Dealing proved to be Plain Lying. (Anon.) 8vo.,
Lond., 1716. (Brit. Mus.)
9. Plain Dealing and its Vindication defended against
a certain Pamphlet. (Anon.) 8vo., Lond., 1716. (Brit.
Mus.)
10. The Jure Divino Woe: exemplify'd in the re-
markable Punishment of Persecutors, False Teachers,
and Rebels. A Thanksgiving Sermon preached (on
Jude 11) at Manchester, Nov. 14. 8vo., Lond., 1717.
(Brit. Mus.)
11. Plain Reasons, I. for Dissenting from the Com-
munion of the Church of England. II. Why Dissenters
are not and cannot be guilty of Schism, &c. By a true
Protestant. 3rd edition. (Anon.) 8vo., Lond., 1717.
23rd edition. 8vo., Lond., 1736. (Bodl.)
12 The Dissenters claim of Right to a Capacity for
Civil Offices. (Anon.) 8vo., Lond., 1717. (Brit. Mus.)
13. The Danger of the Church and Kingdom from
Foreigners Considered. (Anon.) 8vo., Lond., 1721.
(Brit. Mus.) An edition with his name on title. 8vo.,
Lond., 1750. (Bodl.)
14. An Alarm to Protestant Princes and People who
are all struck at in the Popish Cruelties at Thorn, &c.
(Anon.) Svo., Lond., 1725. (Brit. Mus.)
15. Meditations on the Incarnation, Sufferings, and
Death of Christ [abridged from the Wonders of liedeem-
ing Love, by C. 0.]. Lond. Religious Tract Soc., First
Series, Tracts, No. 302. 1830. (Brit. Mus.)
16 Essay towards the Natural History of Serpents.
4to., Lond., 1742. (Brit. Mus.)
17. Funeral Sermon. 8vo., Lond., 1746. (Watts
Bibl. Brit.)
18. On Marriage; on Hebr. xiii. 4. 8vo., I too.
(Watt.)
19. The Vanity of Human Life illustrated under the
Similitude of Nothing, a Discourse [on Ps. xxxix. 5]
5th S. I. JAN. 31, 74.]
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occasioned by the Death of Mrs. M. Lythgow, &c.
8ro., Manch., 1758. (Brit. Mus.)
The above works are, I believe, usually as-
cribed to one author, but I am inclined to think
that they are by two different men, perhaps father
and son. Some of your Lancashire readers may
be able to solve this question.
No. 2 was translated into German, and published
at Leipzig in 1715. Plain Dealing, p. 38 : —
" Rebaptization is another novel Practice lately in-
troduced into the Church, &c. You may see more
of this in my Donatus Redivivus and The Amazon
Unmask'd." W. H. ALLNUTT.
Bodleian Library.
IRISH PROVINCIALISMS (4th S. ix. passim; xii.
479, 522.) — I may preface my answers by saying
that in some parts of the north of Ireland the
settlers can still speak and understand Gaelic ; this
is not the case in the County Derry, but the in-
habitants of the lowlands can speak almost as good
Scotch, and certainly can understand it quite as
well, as the inhabitants of the Scotch Lowlands.
When speaking to an Englishman, or anyone who
speaks English fairly, they would consider it very
bad manners to tali broad ; in courtesy to him,
they do their utmost to speak intelligible English,
and rarely embellish their speech with proverbs or
old sayings. Anyone wishing to hear them con-
verse in their every-day tongue would do well to
follow the example of Dan O'Connell.
For some years I have been engaged collecting
materials for a work on the antiquities, manners,
customs, legends, &c., of the County of Derry,
and I need hardly say that any contribution which
would throw light on the subject would be most
interesting to me.
The word houghel is commonly applied to a
splay-footed person, who shuffles along in an awk-
ward manner. JSoughling is walking awkwardly,
to move from side to side. The word is Scotch,
and is derived from hoghlin, a pig. Anyone who
has seen a fat pig walking can form an idea of the
way a houghlin" person wabbles from side to side.
Crowl is also Scotch. A common expression is " a
wee donsie crowl "=a small sickly child ; "I 'm very
donsie "=I 'm very feeble or sickly. Bray is the
Scotch brae, pure and simple.
As MR. WARREN has already said, the whitteret
takes its name from the white ring round its throat ;
witter=throat.
A whitteret about a house is considered very
sonsie (lucky). It is also commonly believed in
the County Derry that if it found one asleep in
the open field it would cut one's throat, and, vam-
pire-like, suck the blood. I once feigned to sleep
close to a little burn which threaded its way be-
hind an old stone ditch overgrown by whin bushes.
A couple of these animals, which I knew to be in
the ditch, presented themselves in about ten
minutes, and continued to watch me closely until
I began to move ; they were very cautious however,
and would not venture nearer to me than about
five yards. Their odour was most offensive. I
may add that danjampery is in common use in
County Derry.
Fouther is correctly explained by MR. SKIPTON.
In the County Derry they say of an unhandy per-
son, " You 're a fouther and the ducks 'ill get ye."
I think it is of Scotch origin, though I do not find
it in Jamieson's Dictionary.
There is a word in common use somewhat like
it, viz., footie, which means a small insignificant
person or thing.
"It's a footey thing tae fa' oot aboot"=it's a
small matter to quarrel about. Lim, or Leim-a-
vaddy, the " Dog's Leap."
Carry, or Carryback, so called from the rocks or
stones of which it is built. Faughan, or Fochan,
so called from the tender good grass which grew
on its fertile banks.
Nowe is Scotch, and means a little hill or knoll.
In an old song, which I heard sung in County
Derry, the following occurs : —
" We'll ca' the yows (ewes) frae the nowes
Molly and me. "
Dellanfan is a short way of saying " daylight
fallin'." MR. SKIPTON did not catch the sound
properly ; it is pronounced del-let-fawn, or del-leete-
fan ; the t is always sounded. Gammon is a popular
game about Christmas ; it is called in Scotland
cammack, from cammock, a crooked stick. Gaelic
cam— crooked.
For skelp, see Jamieson, vol. ii. pp. 397-8. In
County Derry a splinter is called a skel, which
Jamieson confounds with "skelp." Jamieson
traces byre to the French bouverie, a stall for oxen,
from bceuf, an ox. For derivations, and fuller ex-
planations of the words, houghel, crowl, whitteret,
blether, and mill lade, see Jamieson's Scottish
Dictionary.
In reference to my former paper (4th S. ix. 513)
on this subject, I still adhere to the views therein
expressed. I have made every inquiry personally
in the district, about the saying "that bangs
Banagher," and find there is nothing known about
it, but the good people of Banagher, on the river
Shannon, lay claim to the saying, and ground their
claim on traditions which I cannot believe. I also
confirm the remarks of J. CK. K. and HERMEN-
TRUDE : the saying is common in Glasgow and the
Lowlands of Scotland, and I have frequently heard
it in Lancashire and Cheshire ; indeed, wherever
Irishmen migrate in numbers they carry their
proverbs and sayings with them.
CUMEE O'LYNN.
UNLAWFUL GAMES OF THE MIDDLE AGES (5th
S. i. 47.) — Kayles, written also cayles and keiles,
derived from the French word quilles, was frequently
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played with pins, and, no doubt, gave origin to the
modern game of nine pins, though primitively the
kayle pins do not appear to have been confined to
iiny certain number.
The game of cloish or closh, mentioned frequently
in the ancient statutes,* seems to have been the
same as kayles, or at least exceedingly like it.
Cloish was played with pins which were thrown at
with a bowl instead of a truncheon, and, probably,
differed only in name from the ninepins of the
present time.
Gleek is mentioned with priniero in Green's Tu
yuoque, where one of the characters proposes to
play at twelve-penny gleek ; but the other insists
upon making it for a crown at least.
I have extracted the above from Strutt's Sports
and Pastimes of the People of England, edit. 1868,
pp. 271, 334, and have presumed that by "guek"
is meant gleek, but perhaps I may be in error here.
CHARLES A. J. MASOX.
3, Gloucester Crescent, Hyde Park, W.
Kayles, cayles, keiles, keel-pins, or kittle-pins,
was the progenitor of modern skittles. The game
consisted in throwing a club or cudgel at a row of
pins, and differed from cloysh, cloish, or closh, in
which the pins were knocked down by a bowl.
Minsheu (1627) thus defines closh- "the casting
of a bowle at nine-pinnes of wood, or nine shanke-
bones of an oxe or an horse." Both these games
were in the first instance prohibited by the 17 Edw.
IV., cap. 3. See Strutt's Sports and Pastimes,
p. 271, and Fosbroke's Encyclopedia, p. 617.
J. CHARLES Cox.
Hazelwood, Belper.
" Closh is an unlawfull game forbidden by the
statute Anno 17 Edw. 4, cap. 3, which is in casting
of a bowle at nine-pinnes of wood or nine shanke
bones of an oxe or horse." — Minsheu, 1627. It
was also prohibited says Strutt, 18, 20 Hen. VIII.,
though Collier, Ann Stage, I. 36, calls them not
statutes but orders issued. There is, too, a con-
sensus of authorities that cayles, keeles, kiles, &c.,
skales, and probably scoyles, are ninepins. " Nine-
pins or kiels," Jonson's Chloridia; "Kiles or nine
pinnes," Minsheu. "Aliossi at keeles, skales or
nine pinnes," and " Cione, a bird. . . . Also a
ninepin or peg or keele," Florio. And so Cotgrave
under " quille," from which all these words are
derived. Keeles, also, like closh and loggats, were
sometimes of bone, as slxnvn by Jonson (as above),
Hanmer (Hamlet, v. 1), and in The Merry Milk-
Maid of Islington (Strutt). In Coles's Dictionary
is " closh, the forbidden game at closh-cayles, nine-
pins." Hence we may perhaps conjecture thai
the two words were synonymes or interchangec
for similar games in different districts, and that
* An. 17 Edw. IV. cap. 3, again 18, 20 Hen. VIII., in
both which acts this game is prohibited.
jlosh, whether as a more barbaric word, or from its
more frequent use in the statutes and proclama-
ions, dropped out of use. I do not remember
laving met with it in any Elizabethan dramatist
or poet. Strutt seems to say that cloish differed
Torn cayles in the pins being thrown at with a
:>owl instead of a truncheon, and others, misled by
this, have said so. It is to be regretted that Strutt
does not always give his authorities, but he him-
self says, under " cayles," that the two drawings
ae copies " represent that species of the game
:alled club-kayles," jeux de quilles a baston, names
which imply that there were kayles not played
with a club. The phrase closh-cayles also suggests
that closh may (if not of the root clash) be allied
to closh, a disease in the feet of cattle. If so, and
it is rendered the more likely by the use of shank
bones for pins, the phrase might be glossed as
stagger-pins.
In interpreting, however, closh and keels as
ninepins, we must take the latter as the generic
term for a variety of games typified by the more
general ninepins. Thus, as stated by Strutt, keeles
not only included ninepins and skittles or kittle -
pins, but, as shown by his drawings, games where
the number of pins varied. Nay, there are two
reasons for believing that keels was applied to
other games in which a pin, peg, or goal was used.
For first, in French quille is not only, according to
Cotgrave, " a keyle or pin of wood used at nine-
pins or keyles," &c., but " a la quille is at cat and
trap." And, secondly, in a parlour game intro-
duced or re-introduced some years ago, and called
squales, an evident variation of kayles and skales,
flat discs are slid from the edge of a round table
towards a centre pin much as in curling, bowls or
loggats. I may add, that while bowls was clearly
a gentlemanly and citizen game in great vogue,
the very unfrequent mention of keeles or ninepins
seems to show that it was a more rustic pastime or
more vulgar town game, and this is borne out by
Sidney's Arcadia: —
" And now at keeles they try a harmelesa chaunce,
And now their curre they teach to fetch and daunce."
" Lamon's Song," Book I., and similarly in " Geron
and Mastix," Book II. :—
" Now shepheards spend their dayes
At blow-point, hot-cockles, or else at keeles."
" Guek " is a misspelling or error for gleek, the
game which, after primero, was the chief gambling
game at cards. It was played by three, and I
fancy had some resemblance to piquet.
B. NICHOLSON.
P.S. — Perhaps some one will give us the words
of the statutes, &c., mentioned above, as also those
of 33 Henry VIII. mentioned by Hanmer.
EPISCOPAL TITLES (4th S. xii. 64, 90, 121, 162,
450, 503.) — I fail to see that I have committed
" the logical fallacy of defending that which nobody
5!hS.I. JAX. 31,71]
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has denied." MR. TEW denies that bishops, other
than peers of the realm, have a right to the title
of " Lord." I assert, on the contrary, that they
are lords by right, and not only by courtesy. MR.
TEW founds his argument on the assumption that
right and legal claim are convertible terms. I
found mine on the fact that the Church can confer
rights which the civil law may or may not enforce,
and which are not affected by the acknowledgment
or denial of them by the State. MR. TEW is
singularly unfortunate in citing a Scotch bishop
as one who cannot demand to be called Lord
Bishop in a legal document. The present Scotch
prelates are not less lord bishops, though the civil
power does not so style them, than their prede-
cessors were bishops, though in the days of perse-
cution of the Scotch Church the civil power refused
to recognize their episcopal character. Notwith-
standing the absence of State recognition, the
power conferred by the Church upon these bishops
in the last century was so effectual that the whole
episcopate (Anglican) of the United States traces
its origin to a bishop (the senior of the canonical
three) who was consecrated by them. And if
the Church can thus confer power without State
recognition, a fortiori she can give right to a title
which is only an outward sign of the power con-
ferred.
Those persons who are not members of the
Church, and who consequently refuse to acknow-
ledge her authority, must necessarily refuse to
accord as a right any titles which are derived
from the Church and not directly from the sove-
reign, and thus to a, certain extent it is true that
" the question seems to turn upon private opinion
only." But, historically, the Church is a power
independent of the State, allied with it by estab-
lishment, as in England, or entirely unconnected
with it, as in Scotland, Ireland, and the United
States. It is a power having its own laws and
its own rights, giving to its ministers certain
functions which the State is incapable of giving,
and conferring certain titles, as marks of honour,
upon its chief ministers which are not derived
from the State, and which, therefore, the State
cannot take away, though it may ignore them.
Given, then, an acknowledgment of the Church as
a power, and the right of her bishops to any title
she may confer is, I think, established. Deny
her existence as a power, and the denial of the
right of her bishops to any title not derived from
the State is the logical consequence. Does MR.
TEW deny the one, and therefore the other ? MR.
TEW concludes his note by a question, whether he
ought or ought not to address the suffragan bishops
of England as lord bishops. If he will refer to
my first note (vol. xii. p. 122), he will find it there
stated by me : —
" Suffragan bishops have, strictly speaking, no sees.
It is true that they are called after some town, as Dover
and Nottingham, but they have no throne in any church
in those towns, because, acoordi ng to ancient rule, there
cannot be two episcopal thrones in one diocese. Having
no sees they have no title."
I may add that the Ch urch herself decided this.
Convocation considered the point at the time of
the consecration of the Bisho p of Nottingham, and
decided that the title of lord bishop should not be
given to suffragans. H. P. D.
J. S. MILL ON "LIBERTT" (5th S. i. 29.)—
C. A. W. will find a review of this work in the
British Quarterly Review, vol. xlyiii. p. 1. G.
THE " VIOLET-CROWNED " CITY (4th S. xii. 496.)
—The word IOO-T€<£CU/OS, applied distinctively to
Athens, may be found in the references of CANTAB,
and (I believe) nowhere else. Boeckh (TlivSapov
TO. o-w£o/xeva, Leips., 1819), torn. ii. p. 580,
remarks, "iocrre<£avos, spectat ad ipsa solennia
quibus hie Dithyrambus inservicbat, in quibus
violaceas coronas usurpatas esse prius docst
fragmentum."
Mr. T. Mitchell, in his edition of Aristophanes'
Acham. (Lond., 1835), appends the following
note : —
" The graceful practice of twisting chaplets around the
head of the'ancients is too well known to need illustration ;
and in Athenian chaplets no flower bore a more frequent
part than that beautiful one which formed so common an
ornament in their parterres and gardens."
In his translation of the same comedy into
English (Lond., 1820), he gives a note as follows:—
" The violet was the favorite and distinguishing flower
of the Athenians. lonians in their origin, they saw in
the ion, or violet, an allusion to the name of their founder.
While Sparta, therefore, was characterised as the Dory-
Stephanos, or javelin-crowned city, the Athenians took
pride in being called the io-stephanoi, or violet-crowned."
This explanation is ingenious, but there appear
to be grave philological doubts as to its soundness.
Perhaps some contributors to " N. & Q." may
throw additional light on the matter.
B. E. N.
TURNING THE FACES OF BUSTS TO THE WALL
(4th S. xii. 495.) — When I was in Paris, in July,
1848, during part of the "Red" Revolution, a
friend informed me that he had been present when
the mob made havoc of the furniture, &c., of Louis
Philippe's palace in the February insurrection. He
gave iK3 some of the velvet of the chairs, and the
purple and gold china, then destroyed — relics
which I still preserve. He mentioned that the
marble bust of the once-popular Citizen King was
only saved from immediate destruction by the
infuriated populace through the happy expedient
of a student. He turned the face of the bust
round, so that it was reflected in the mirror then
behind it, and said, " There, let the Old Cheat have
a look at himself. He cannot have a worse punish-
ment." Justifying Voltaire's eulogium, the monkey
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portion of a Parisian mob's character is always
ready to come in sight, along with the tiger's.
Everybody laughed, enjoying the joke, and a fine
work of art was saved. Good use is made of the
incident of turning a picture's face to the wall in
Charles Eeade's Put Yourself in His Place. But
neither of these cases affords explanation of the
custom mentioned by S. S. S. J. W. E.
Molash, Kent.
CYMBLING FOR LARKS (5th S. i. 27.)— The first
question is as to the verbal form " Cymbling,"
which is not recognized by any of the chief
dictionaries of the English language. I am in-
formed, however, upon good authority that in
Yorkshire, at least, the phrase "cymbling for
bees " is still in use, and that it is applied to the
common method for making bees settle, in fact
Virgil's
" Tinnitusque cie, et Matris quate cymbalo, circum."
Having thus connected the verb to cyuible
with • the noun cymbal, the next question,
which relates to the nature of the sport of
" cymbling for larks," becomes more easy. In
Strutt's Sports and Pastimes, edition of 1801,
p. 29, I find the following passage, which I have
no doubt describes the sport in question under
other names. He is quoting from Jewel for
G-entrie, Lond., 1614 : —
"There is also another method of fowling, which,
says my author, for I will give it nearly in his own
words, is performed with nets, and in the night
time, and the darker the night the better : — ' This
sport we call in England most commonly lird-lutting ,
and some call it low-balling, and the use of it is to go
with a great light of cressets or rags of linen dipped
in tallow, which will make a good light ; and you must
have a pan or plate made like a lanthorn to carry your
light in, which must have a great socket to hold the
light, and carry it before you, on your breast, with a
bell in your other hand, and of a great bigness, made in
the manner of a cowbell, but still larger, and you must
ring it always after one order. If you carry the bell,
you must have two companions with nets, one on each
side of you, and what with the bell and what with the
light, the birds will be so amazed, that, when you come
near them, they will turn up their white bellies. Your
companions shall then lay their nets quietly upon them
and take them. But you must continue to ring the bell ;
for if the sound shall cease, the other birds, if there be
any more near at hand, will rise up and fly away.' ' This
is,' continues the author, 'an excellent method to
catch larks, woodcocks, partridges, and all other land
birds.' "
Whether any of the instruments above described
are to be found in any museum, or elsewhere, I am
unable to say. H. M. K. P.
"BAVIN" (5* S. i. 46.)— In this county of
Sussex bavin means a bundle of underwood, some-
times called kindlers, as they are used for lighting
fires. Wedgwood gives the meaning, "a brush
faggot. O. Fr. ba/e, faisceau, fagot." Chambers,
in his dictionary, considers them as a kind of
fascines used in foitification. Shakspeare, too.,
certainly, in the only passage in which I can find
the word, uses it in this sense : —
" The skipping king, he ambled up and down
With shallow jesters, and rash bavin wits,
Soon kindled, and soon burn'd."
Henry IV., First Part, Act iii. sc. if.
EDMUND TEW, M.A.
Fagots made of dry, light brushwood were
called bavins in Sussex some twenty years ago, and
probably retain the name. They kindle readily
and burn out quickly ; so do the "rash bavin
wits," not only of Shakspeare's, but of all time.
H. B. P.
GRAHAM, VISCOUNT DUNDEE (5th S. i. 48.) —
James Graham, titular Viscount Dundee, who died
at Dunkirk, in 1759, sold the family estate of
Duntrune to his uncle Alexander Graham before
1735. Alexander Graham settled the estate on
his brother David, who died in 1766. By his wife
Girzel Gardyne he left an only son, Alexander,
who succeeded to the family estate, and died in
1782. He had married Clementina, daughter of
David Gardyne, of Middleton, and left a son,
Alexander, and several daughters. Alexander
Graham, of Duntrune, died s. p. in 1802. Two-
of his sisters were married. The younger sister,
Clementina, was wife of Gavin Drummond. Her
daughter, who bore the same Christian name,
married David, eighth Earl of Airlie, father of the
present Earl. Amelia, the elder sister, married, in
1781, Patrick Stirling, of Pittendreich, Forfar-
shire, and became mother of two sons and two
daughters. Alexander, the second son, died in
infancy. The elder son, William Stirling Graham,
born 12th June, 1794, died in December, 1844,
and was succeeded in the estate of Duntrune by
his elder sister. That gentlewoman, Miss Clemen-
tina Stirling Graham was born in May, 1782, and
is consequently now in her ninety-first year. IB
youth she was celebrated for her amusing persona-
tions. Some of these she has related in a volume
entitled Mystifications, published in 1864 under
the editorial care of Dr. John Brown, of Edin-
burgh. To my work The Modern Scottish Minstrel
(Edinb., 1870, 8vo.) she is an esteemed contributor.
She represents the Grahams of Duntrune and
Claverhouse. Jane, her younger sister, married
John Mortlock Lacon, of Great Yarmouth, with
issue six sons and four daughters ; she died in
1868. CHARLES KOGERS.
Grampian Lodge, Forest Hill.
Miss Sterling Graham, of Duntroon, is the pre-
sent representative of Bonny Dundee, a lady whose
acquaintance is highly prized by those who know
her. P. P.
PIN-BASKET (5th S. i. 28.)— The mother's, not
youngest, but whether youngest or only child, last
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without hope of another is intensely endeared to
her, and is called the pin-basket, because the
basket containing the infant-toilet remains there-
after pinned up and closed. Changing, therefore,
" youngest " in the dictionaries into " last," the
word pin-basket, i.e. pinned-basket, seems, in all
four quotations, appropriate. JOHN PIKE.
There is sometimes heard among the peasants,
in Wales, the saying " I will put a pin in her bas-
ket." The meaning which they attach to the
phrase may be best illustrated by such vulgarisms
as " I will do for the chap," " I will finish him oft',"
" I will cook his hash for him," &c. K. & M.
EPITAPH ON A TOMBSTONE AT , NEAR PARIS
(5th S. i. 46.) — The solution of the enigmatic epi-
taph does not present much difficulty. From line
1, compared with 3 and 4, it is clear that the " six
corpses " belonged to two families, each consisting
of a woman, her son, and her grand-daughter.
Line 2 shows that two alliances had taken place
between the members of the two families ; and as
the grand-daughters were still maidens (line 5), it
follows that each man must have married the other
man's mother. Thus we obtain the husbands and
wives of line 2, the maidens and mothers (i. e.,
stepmothers) of line 5, and the brothers and sis-
ters of line 6 ; for each man became brother to the
other man's daughter, by the union of their re-
spective parents. A. C.
Let old Smith, father of young Smith, marry
Jane Robinson, daughter of Ann ; and let young
Smith marry Ann Eobinson. Let old Smith and
Jane his wife have a daughter Jemima, and let
young Smith and Ann his wife have a daughter
Kezia. Jemima, daughter of Jane, is of course
Ann's grand-daughter, and Kezia, being daughter
of young Smith, is grand-daughter of old Smith's
wife.
On the double marriage Jane became [step]
mother to young Smith, and Ann became mother
[in law] to old Smith. Jemima, being daughter
of old Smith, is of course sister to young Smith,
and Kezia, being daughter of Ann, is sister of
Jane, and, therefore, of Jane's husband, old Smith.
The rest is obvious. Q. E. D. C. S.
Copied from Palmer's Epitaphs: —
"Explanation.
" Two of these six must be men. It will make the
solution easier to give them names ; Elizabeth, John,
and Sally : Anne, Thomas, and Suky. Elizabeth and
Anne of different families, only allied by their second
marriage. Elizabeth by a first husband had John : and
afterwards married Thomas, and by him had Suky. Anne,
by a first husband, had Thomas ; and afterwards married
John, and by him had Sally. The two grandmothers, Eliza-
beth and Anne; their two grand-daughters, Sally and
Suky. The two husbands, John and Thomas ; their
two wives, Elizabeth and Anne. The two fathers, John
and Thomas; their two daughters, Sally and Suky.
The two mothers Elizabeth and Anne ; their two sons,
John and Thomas. The two maidens, Sally and Suky ;
their two mothers, Elizabeth and Anne. The two sisters,
Sally and Suky ; their two brothers, John and Thomas ;
for Suky is half-sister to John, and Sally half-sister to
Thomas.
First Husband==Elizabeth— Thomas, Second Husband.
John=Anne.
Sally.
Suky.
First Husband=Anne=f John, Second Husband.
Thomas==Elizabeth.
Suky.
Sally.
P. W
I haye always heard it explained thus : — Two
friends, A and B, marry their respective mothers,
and have each a daughter, C and £>.
A=B's mother B==A's mother
C D
Mrs. A is, therefore, grandmother to D, as Mrs.
B is grandmother to C ; A is half-brother to D, as
B is to C. There is no difficulty with the rest.
C. L. W.
GEN. THOMAS HARRISON (5th S. i. 47.) — There
is a portrait of him, with fac-simile of his autograph
and seal, in The High Court of Justice, by
James Caulfield, London, 1820. He is there sup-
posed to be the son of a butcher or grazier, living
at Newcastle-under-Line, co. Stafford. There is
also a portrait of him in Historical Sketches of
Charles J., Cronmell, and >Charles II., by W. D.
Fellowes, London and Paris, 1828, with the same
account of his origin. According to Clarendon,
he was born near Namptwich, in Cheshire.
S. H. A. H.
Sydenham. .
" DENHAM," NOTTS (5th S. i. 47.) — As a Notting-
hamshire man, I can say there is a Dunham in
Nottinghamshire. It is situated on the Trent,
five miles north-east of Tuxford. I know of no
Denham. "W. PHILLIPS.
" THE BLINDE BATE MANY A FLYE " (4th S. xii.
316.) — S. will, I think, find the above proverb in
Chaucer, or one of the poems attributed to Chaucer.
A. H. B.
STACEY GRIMALDI (5th S. i. 8.) — In the Herald
and Genealogist, by John Gough Nichols, F.S.A.,
vol. i., p. 548, is a list of " Mr. Grimaldi's distinct
works " ; also of some contributions of his to
various periodicals. G. P.
BOLEYN PEDIGREE (5th S. i. 2, 45.) — In the
South or Sidney Chantry Chapel in Penshurst
Church, on a small flat gravestone, there is a cross
gradated in brass with this laconic inscription in
black letter —
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[5th S. I. JAN. 31, '74.
" Thomas Bullayen, sone of Syr Thomas Bullayen."
The above is from a note made by me during a
recent visit at Penshurst, distant about three miles
from Hever. H. M. VANE.
74, Eaton Place, S.W.
As Mr. Pigott appears to be acquainted with
the Boleyn pedigrees, perhaps he could oblige me
by throwing some light on the following family —
Par. Keg. St. Michael's Barbados, Baptism " 1646
Sept. 10. John son of John and Joan Bullen."
The grandson (apparently) of the above, < was
James Bullen, of Barbados (and described as also
of Eedruth, Cornwall), partner of Edward Lascelles,
ancr. of Lord Harewood. S.
NEW MOON SUPERSTITIONS (5th S. i. 48.) — It is
a common belief in England and Scotland that a
new moon falling on a Saturday brings bad
weather, and there are several sayings to that effect.
In the north of Italy a change on Wednesday is
dreaded, and in the south of France a change on
Friday. A new moon on Monday is everywhere
welcomed. CHARLES SWAINSON, M.A.
Highhurst Wood.
POPLAR WOOD (5th S. i. 67.) — Every officer who
served with our army in Afghanistan had daily op-
portunities of seeing that poplar wood burns readily
enough ; so readily, indeed, as to be almost worth-
less for fuel. The timber described in H. H. F.'s
extract must have been very different also in the
matter of strength. Any that I have seen would
have yielded to a much less superincumbent weight
than " a yard thick of hot clinkers and melted
machinery." " N. & Q." has always very properly
set its face against puns, but I cannot help saying,
for once, that the replies to H. H. F.'s query ought
to be headed " Pop'lar Error." CHITTELDROOG.
"CRUE" (4th S. xii. 517; 5th S. i. 34.)— The
word " Crue," according to E. Coles, English
Dictionary of Hard Words, London, 1685, is oi
Scottish origin. He gives Cruise, Creffera, Sc. —
Hogsty. Solsbury church is probably a mistake.
According to the old legends, Bladud fell upon the
Temple of Sol or Apollo in Trinovantum [London]
Lambarde says, Top. Diet., p. 175 [Lond., 1730]: —
" Gal/ride hath mention of a Temple dedicate to
Apollo, upon the which Bladud, the Kinge, an In
chaunter, felle, practisnge against kinde to flie with
winges ";
and on referring to old Jeffrey's History for th<
account of the death of Baldudus, the son o:
Hurdibras, we find, lib. i. cap. xiiii. (Paris edition
1517), " ceciditqe super templum Apollinis intra
urbe Ternouatum et in multa frusta contritus est.5'
All the most authentic accounts seem to fix the
place of his death in Lo ndon.
EDWARD SOLLY.
1st. The word swine's-mw/<3, — or, spelt in th<
way I am in the habit of hearing it pro
.ounced, "creeve," — is daily used in the north
f Northumberland, and is, I think, common
hroughout Scotland ; but, like so many of our
Ider words, it is mainly used by the labouring
lasses, educated people not taking much interest
n pigs beyond eating them.
I believe " swine's-cruife," or " creeve," conies
inder the denomination of a " vulgar " word, and
hat its equivalent, when addressed to ears polite,
iught to be pigsty.
In an interesting work, De Verborum Significa-
ione, fol., Edinburgh, 1599, Skene says, " Creffera,
ir hard porcarum=ane cruife, or ane Swine's-
3ruif, — quhilk in sum auld buikes is called ane
tye."
Just as we have " byre," a cow-house, so we
lave " cruife," or " creeve "—a pig-house, in com-
mon use, as I have said before, in the extreme
north of England.
2nd. Derivation. — I should say it can be derived
rom any language one likes best. There is the
Saxon " Crreftan," to build, hence a house or hut ;
Anglo-Sax. "Cruft"=a vault ; Teutonic "Krofte"
= a cave ; Celtic " Cro" and Cornish " Krou" also
meaning a hut ; Icelandish " Kroo "=a tavern.
JAMES NICHOLSON.
This word is, I believe, in use in Lancashire.
Among the peasantry its general meaning seems
bo be a poor, humble dwelling, a hovel, or hut.
The word occurs, though differently spelt, in Tivo
Gentlemen of Verona, Act IV., scene i., line 75 —
" We'll bring thee to our crews,"
where it has apparently the meaning given above ;
but this does not help one to the derivation.
E. S.
Cambridge.
" HAD I NOT FOUND," &c. (4th S. xii. 309, 357,
418, 504.) — Perhaps my friend DR. ROGERS
will permit me to refer him to an edition of
Aytoun's poems, edited by himself, and pub-
lished in 1844 by A. & C. Black, Edinburgh.
There, at page 66, he will find the poem given
under its proper title, " Inconstancy Reproved." It-
bears the same name in Watson's collection, ard
is referred to by the same name in Chambers's
Biographical Dictionary. Indeed, the whole
structure of the poem goes to justify its original
name. The first three lines form what may be
called the whole argument of the poem, which is
well sustained throughout : —
" I do confess thou'rt smooth and fair,
And I must have gone near to love thee,
Had I not found the slightest prayer," &c.
It is evident that the poet never intended her to
be thought his mistress or the mistress of any
one else. She was so inconstant that nobody cared
to have anything to do with her, and the poet
naturally enough tells this coquettish young lady,
that, seeing she cannot be content with the love of
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one, she is worthy to be loved by none. DR.
ROGERS evidently has got bewildered among the
number of poems addressed by Aytoun to other
mistresses, scornful, careless, unsteadfast, incon-
stant, and otherwise. JAMES HOGG.
Stirling.
HEEL-TAPS (4th S. xi. 504 ; xii. 18, 198 ; 5th S.
i. 37.1 — This word is probably derived from to heel
a cask (i. e., to tilt it) after the clear contents have
been nearly drawn off, and when the liquid running
from the tap begins to look turbid. Heel-taps,
therefore, are the residuum of liquid in an almost
empty cask, and, by analogy, the leavings in a
glass when the best of the liquor has been drunk
off. " No heel-taps " is, both in form and in
meaning, equivalent to " no leavings."
CHARLES A. FEDERER.
Bradford.
" OIL OF BRICK " (4th S. xii. 448 ; 5th S. i.
53.) — As your correspondents reply, they do not
state the fact that this article is used by seal
engravers and cutters of stones, to retain the dia-
mond powder on the soft-iron tools. The hot
brick renders the oil more viscid, but yet it is very
permeating and never congeals by cold. I have
seen it rubbed over the bridge of the nose to pre-
vent snoring, and certainly with efficacy.
F. S. A.
SURNAME " BARNES " (4th S. xii. 496 ; 5th S. i.
56.) — Will T. H. be so good as to give his authority
for the astounding statement, that when " the
property of the family of Barnes was confiscated
in Elizabeth's and James I.'s time," " their spurs
were hacked off in true feudal fashion, and every
record of their existence was erased from the sacred
pages of the Heralds" ? Does he mean gravely to
assert that these extraordinary proceedings were
enforced by judicial sentence, or is it a mere
rhetorical flourish, by which he attempts to explain
the fact that no pedigree of Barnes is now to be
found in the College of Arms ? TEWARS.
"CANADA" (4th S. xii. 86, 176.)— Canada de
Ares is the name of a place in Spain, prov. Cas-
tellon de la Plana ; and Canada is found in the
names of sixty-nine localities in Spain. Qu. the
Spanish canada, a dale between two mountains.
K. S. CHARNOCK.
Gray's Inn.
In Hennepin's New Discovery of a Vast Country
in America, the following account is given of the
origin of this name : —
" The Spaniards were the first who discovered Canada;
but at their first arrival, having found nothing considerable
in it, they abandoned the country, and called it 11 Capo di
Nada, that is, the Cape of Nothing. Hence, by cor-
ruption, sprung the word Canada."
Capo is the obsolete form of the present word
Vdbo. UNEDA.
Philadelphia.
Charlevoix, in his History of New France,
speaking of the route of Castier, in the Gulf of St.
Lawrenc.e, in 1634, says : —
" This bay [Chaleur] is the same that is laid down on
some maps as Baye des Espagnols ; and there is an old
tradition, that Spaniards entered it before Castier, and
that, seeing no signs of any mines there, they had several
times repeated the words A ca nada — nothing there. This
the Indians subsequently repeated to the French, inducing
them to suppose Canada to be the name of the country."
In a note to this passage Charlevoix says : — •
" Some derive the name from the Iroquois Kannata,
meaning a collection of cabins." — See Shea's Charlevoix,
vol. i. p. 113.
Another origin of the name is suggested in New
England's Rarities Discovered, by John Josselyn,
Gent., printed in London in 1672. On page 5 he
says : —
" New England is by some affirmed to be an Island,
bounded on the North with the River Canada (so called
from Monsieur Cane), on the south," &c.
Who this Monsieur Cane may be I know not.
On a map in L'Escarbot's History of New France,
published in Paris in 1609, the river St. Lawrence
and the country on both sides are designated
Canada.
Upon this information it seems most probable
that one or the other of Charlevoix;s explanations
is the true one. The subject is interesting and
needs further examination. C. W. TUTTLE.
Boston, U.S.A.
"QUILLET" (4th S. xii. 348; 5th S. i. 14.)— In
the Aihenceum for January 3, 1874, p. 16, occurs
the following passage in a review of "Llanaly
Point," by Lady Verney : —
" Owen is a Welshman— litigious on principle— regard-
ing his feud with David Hughes about the Quillet —
an infinitesimal piece of waste land — to which he clings
with true Celtic attachment."
The peasantry in Glamorganshire call the small
iron wedges with which they fasten the handles of
their pickaxes, mattocks, and other tools "quillets."
From this it may be inferred that the meaning of
the word " quillet," as applied to land, is a wedge-
shaped piece thereof. But whence came that
word amongst them ? What is its derivation ? It
does not seem to be included in the most ordinary
Welsh dictionaries as being a Celtic word. Do
the peasants of Glamorganshire inherit this term
for a hedge from the Normans 1 R. & M.
CERVANTES AND SHAKSPEARE (4th S. xii. 4261
501.) — In Bond's Handy Book of Rules and
Tables for Verifying Dates, Bell & Daldy,
London, 8vo., 1866, I find, at p. 27, the following
passage: —
" As an illustration of the mistakes which are made
by overlooking the fact, that the Kew Style was adopted
earlier in some countries than in others, one may notice
that some writers have supposed that both Cervantes
and Shak?peare died on the same day, whereas the fact
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[5th S. I. JAN. 31,74.
is that there was ten days' difference between the dates
of the death of one and the other.
"Michael de Cervantes Saavedra, the. author of Dow
Quixote, died on the 23rd of April, 1616, at Madrid, on
Saturday, according to the New Style of writing dates
in use at that time in Spain, which style had been
adopted there as early as the year 1582 — (Year Letters
CB, 1616, New Style, 23rd of April, 1616, Saturday).
And William Shakspeare died on the 23rd of April, 1616,
at Stratford-on-Avon, on Tuesday, according to the Old
Style of writing dates at that time in use in England,
the New Style not having been adopted in England at
that time, and not until the year 1752 — (Year Letters
GF, 1616, Old Style, 23rd of April, 1616, Tuesday).
Saturday, 23rd of April, 1616, New Style, corresponded
with Saturday, 13th of April, 1616, Old Style. Tuesday,
23rd of April, 1616, Old Style, corresponded with Tues-
day, 3rd of May, 1616, New Style. Hence it is shown
that Cervantes died ten days before Shakspeare."
FRANK EEDE FOWKE.
I think it is certain that they both died on the
same day, Old Style ; and the introduction of the
New Style into England or Spain has nothing to
do with the question. Shakspeare died on his
birthday, Tuesday, April 23, 1616, as appears on his
monument : —
"Obiit An0 Dni 1616
^Et53, die 23 Apri."
Cervantes, shortly before his death, dictated a most
affectionate dedication to his patron, the Count de
Lemos, who was at that time President of the
Supreme Council in Italy ; he informed His Ex-
cellency that he had received extreme unction,
and was on the brink of Eternity. This dedication
was dated April 19, 1617 (?).— Smollett's Don
Quixote, third edition, corrected, London, 1765,
page xxix. I conclude the date here given is a
printer's error, as 1616 is the usual year assigned.
J. B. P.
Barbourne, Worcester.
" SKETCHES OF IMPOSTURE," &c., FAMILY
LIBRARY (4th S. xii. 328.)— In my copy the title-
page gives the author's name, " R. A. Davenport,
Esq., author of The Life of Ali Pasha," &c.
A. H. B.
THE LARK AND THE TOAD (5th S. i. 5) : —
" Some say the lark and loathed toad change eyes."
Romeo and Juliet, iii. 5.
I do not think this old saying — " superstition "
seems a harsh word for such a fancy — had its origin
in one of the three sources suggested by MR.
FURNIVALL ; it may rather have arisen from the
fact that the lark, as Hanmer says, " with a sweet
pipe hath little ugly eyes, and the toad large and
fine eyes, but a dismal croaking voice." This,
remarks Warburton, was the occasion of a common
saying amongst the people, that the toad and lark
had changed eyes. (Mason would read " changed
for " change " in Shakspeare's line.)
SPARKS HENDERSON WILLIAMS.
I believe there is an old folk-tale upon this
subject. Johnson, who, it will be remembered,
spent his youth in Staffordshire, says, —
" The tradition of the toad and lark I have heard ex-
pressed in a rustick rhyme :
' to heav'n I 'd fly,
But that the toad beguil'd me of mine eye.'"
[ quote from a note to the passage in the edition
of 1778. C. ELLIOT BROWNE.
ROYAL ARMS IN CHURCHES (4th S. xii. 287,
354, 437 ; 5th S. i. 37.)— The following extract
illustrates my previous note. Sanders said that —
" The Parliament ordered the King's arms, three
leopards and three lilies, with the supporters, a dog and
a serpent, to be put in the place where the Cross of
Christ stood."
And Burnet's reply is —
" They did not order the King's arms to be put in the
place where the Cross had stood. It grew, indeed, to be
a custom to set them up in all churches, thereby ex-
pressing that they acknowledged the King's authority
reached even to their churches, but there was no order
made about them. A lion and not a dog is one supporter,
and the other is a dragon and not a serpent."
MACKENZIE E. C. WALCOTT.
SPECIAL FORMS OF PRAYER (4th S. xii. 368, 415.)
— Such forms are certainly now used in the Catholic
Church. One was appointed only recently for use
during the triduum which preceded the dedication
of the Archdiocese of Westminster to the Sacred
Heart. I believe others were issued for some other
dioceses upon the same occasion.
JAMES BRITTEN.
THE WATERLOO AND PENINSULAR MEDALS (5th
S. i. 47.) — C. T. B.'s queries will be answered by
these extracts from Sir H. Nicolas' Orders of Knight-
hood, &c., vol. iv., Hist, of Medals, p. 32 : —
" The glorious frequency of victories in the Peninsula,
during the years 1808 and 1809, caused two gold medals
to be instituted for the reward of such superior officers
as had distinguished themselves."
The exact date is not given ; but it is clear from
the next extract that the Peninsular medal was
before, not after, the Waterloo medal, and long
before the date C. T. B. gives, p. 38 :—
" The crowning victory of Waterloo was commemorated
in an especial manner. Instead of rewarding the superior
officers with the medal which had been given for all the
battles of the Peninsular war, a medal was purposely
struck in its honour, which was given to every officer,
non-commissioned officer, and private soldier who was
present."
On p. 39 is the official memorandum from the
Horse Guards, dated 10th March, 1816.
CHARLES F. S. WARREN, M.A.
THE DE QUINCIS (4th S. x., xi., xii. passim.} —
King David I., the saint, was certainly married to,
the widowed Countess of Simon de St. Liz ; and
Maud, or " Matildis Regine," accompanied him to
Scotland on his accession to the throne of his
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native land, A.D. 1124 ; witnessed a charter to the
Abbey of Dunfermline, circa A.D. 1128 (Reg. de
Dunferm., and Dugdale's Monasticon, edition 1661,
p. 1055), and died A.D. 1130,* leaving an only son,
Prince Henry. She is generally considered to
have had only one son by her first marriage,
Waltheof, who became a monk, was elected second
Abbot of Melrose, A.D. 1148, and was offered the
See of St. Andrews in Scotland A.D. 1159 ; he
refused it, and died immediately afterwards,
August 3, A.D. 1159 (Fordun, Jocelyn of Fumes,
and Ada Sanctorum, in " Vita S. Waltheoi,"
Aug. 3, torn, iii.), being subsequently canonized,
with festival on day of death, as " Abbot and
Confessor." A. S. A.
Richmond.
John de Lacy, who died July 22, 1240, left
issue two children, — Maude, probably born about
1226, who married Eichard de Clare, Earl of
Gloucester ; and his successor, Edmund, Earl of
Lincoln, who may have been born about 1228, —
but whether their mother was Margaret de Quincy,
or some hitherto unknown predecessor, I am unable
to say. Margaret is mentioned as John's wife,
Nov. 23, 17 Hen. III. (1232). HERMENTRUDE.
POLYGAMY (4th S. xii. 427, 500.)— Martin Madan
seems to have intended by the short title of his
work, TJielyphthora, to translate into Greek the
words " Female Ruin." Has it ever been remarked
that there could not be such a substantive in
Greek ? If any one doubt, let him try to accentuate
it. Of course there might be an adjective, d-qXv
Qopa ; but this is what Madan did not want.
The substantive he did want would be @rjXv
Oopia, or Thelyphthoria. Cf. Plutarch's phrase,
oiKOf^Oopia. ywcuKwv. JABEZ.
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worded title-page. Mr. Tozer has travelled over some
of the scenes he describes, and, therefore, enables the
reader to form a true conception of the country. He
gives a summary of the physical conditions by which the
Greeks were influenced, sketches the connexion of the
geography with the history, and, as he modestly says
" he draws attention to one or two subjects which,
hitherto, have been but slightly noticed." The lectures
are ten in number; and they increase in an interest which
culminates in the last. There is not only a good genera
index, but a valuable etymological index of Greek names
of places. More need not be said to indicate how
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IN Dr. Mackay's book, the scholar and the general reader
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much amusement as learning in it. There is many a
pearl dropt from the old chaplet which would be well
restored to its old place. But there are others which are
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like men, if they descend to vulgar companionship, lose
the stamp of refinement. Dr. Mackay, among hundreds
of other examples in his very interesting volume, quotes
" axe " and " a-feared " as good old English words. The
latter, indeed, is not of vulgar bearing as long as it is
found in the old poets. Still, should Dr. Mackay be in
the next Parliament, would he have the courage to say,
" I axed the First Lord of the Treasury ; and he was
a-feared to give me an answer ! ! "
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young pirate on the Sicilian shores is charmingly told.
Among the poems appended, are some interesting and
striking verses. " Marlowe " is an Edinburgh University
prize poem. " Willie is Dead " and " The Wreath of
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The Herald and Genealogist. Edited by John Gough
Nichols, F.S.A. Part XLVI., January, 1874. (Nichols
& Sons.)
A NEW and varied number of the periodical so ably
edited, we had almost said written, by the late Mr. J.
Gough Nichols. The next Part, which will bring the
work to a close, will contain the papers which Mr. Nichols
had already prepared for it, and, in addition, what our
readers will look forward to with interest and regard as
a fitting tribute to him, a memoir and portrait of that
accomplished and lamented gentleman.
Visions ! by a Converted Man (Evangelization Mission),
bears out its title ad punctum : it is visionary, but truly
devotional. In a pamphlet of thirty-one pages are re-
suscitated several supernatural appearances. Divine
revelations, extraordinary in kind, there have been and
may be now, but their existing testimony is not enhanced
by emanations wente sand in corpore fraqili. From
pp. 7, 9, 10, 12, and 20, we infer the author's health to
have been not the soundest. Sincerity, however, is
stamped on every page of the pamphlet.
A Treatise on Purgatory. (The Purgalorian Examiner,
1873.)
THIS is a severe assault on one of the outposts of the
Roman Church, and the batteries have been well directed.
The balls fired are truth and common-sense. The debris
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is, therefore, proportionally great. Chap. IV., with
citations from Joseplms and Bp. Burnet, contains some
cogent arguments. The reference to the Pythagorean
metempsychosis is ably put, and the articles on Indulgences
expose many unnatural extravagances. In parts the
treatise is too flippant for conviction. Pp. 6, 39, 41, 42,
&c., will ridicule but not convert.
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nearly every honest calling, even from dress-making,
which had then been assumed by men ("tailleurs pour
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fllles ? Elles avaient un droit naturel a toute la parure
des femmcs. On y laisse former mille ouvriers de 1'autre
sexe." This passage was suppressed when the comedy
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extinct ; and it is not so long ago since, in England, men
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LONDON, SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 7, 1874.
CONTENTS. — N° 6.
NOTES :— Catalogue of Works of Art, &c., 101— The Licence
assumed by Lawyers— The Rev. Jonathan Bouchier, 102 —
Double Returns in Parliamentary Elections — A Labyrinth of
S. Bernard, 104— The Aspirate H — Parallel Passages—
Griselda as a Play —Monumental Inscriptions, 105 — Litho-
tomy in the Seventeenth Century — Law and Sentiment — The
Lord Chamberlain's Inspection of Theatrical Pieces, 106.
QUERIES :— " Tedious "—Kentish Usage— Mediaeval Wines-
William Combe, Author of " Dr. Syntax"— Twelfth Day— Old
Story— Isabel, or Elizabeth, the Wife of Charles V.,
Emperor of Germany — "The Third Foot" — Hungary —
Prince Rupert— Storer Family, 107— The Philomaths— Sir
David Lindsay of the Mount— Bishop Rutter"s Portrait-
Quotations Wanted — Jocosa as a Christian Name —
Viscounty of Buttevant — Baxter Arms— Seats in Parliament
— Lt.-Col. Livingstone, 1689— John Hull, the Engraver, 108—
"Jure Hereditario" — Papal Ratification of the Privileges of
an English Town — Heraldry — Chap-Books — The Gothic
Florin— Altar Frontals, 109.
REPLIES:— On Shakspeare's Pastoral Name, 109— Dr. Bossy:
Itinerant Empirics, 111 — Dr. Johnson and Mrs. Turton — The
O'Briens of Thomond, 112— Moses of Chorene — Feringhee and
the Varangians, 113 — Simpson Arms — "Le Gaffe, ou
L'Ecossaise" — The Marshals of France — "The Night Crow,"
114 — Dialogue between Charon and Contention — William
Laurence — An Inscription— "Dadum I return" — Realising
the Signs of Thought — Tiovulfingacaestir — Sir Joshua
Reynolds, 115 — Burning the Dead — Clockmakers — "lake" as
a Conjunction — Heraldic — Black-a-vized, 116 — " De Quincey :
Cough's Fate" — Henry Hickman — Quotations Wanted —
Greek Anthology — Curious Coin or Token — Bere Regis
Church, 117 — Affebridge : Roding — " Paynter Stayner " —
Bondmen in England, 118— "Nor" for "Than," 119.
Notes on Books, &c.
CATALOGUE OP WORKS OF ART, ETC.
The above volume was printed by the Corpora-
tion of London, on the occasion of the opening of
the New Library and Museum, in November, 1872.
A work of this character might have been made
a very useful handbook for those desirous of be-
coming acquainted with the past history of London,
in various pointfe of view ; but, on the contrary,
blemished as it is by various mistakes, the volume
is nearly as apt to mislead as it is to inform. Of
these errors I proceed to make note of a part. As
the pages are not numbered in the volume, I
must denote the leaves by the sheets, beginning
with the heading of City " Topography": —
A 5. Edward III. was not murdered, with his brother,
the Duke of York ; it was Edward V. — King Henry I.
did not erect the chapel of St. Peter ad Vincula, in the
Tower of London, " about 1272 "; he died in 1135.
B 7. The name of the noble family formerly residing
at Baynard's Castle was " Fitzwalter," not " Fitzwalters."
Fitzwalter also was not the " City Champion "; he was
the City "Castellan"; altogether a different office. —
Hubert de Burgh, Earl of Kent, did not found a sanctuary
at the Black Friars in 1276 ; he died in 1243.
C 3. " Henry III. directed the Lord Mayor, in 1259 ";
he could not do so, as the Mayor of London had not the
title of " Lord " given to him till a century later, in the
reign of Edward III.
C 4. There is no monument in St. Paul's " erected in
honor of General Woolf "; the name is " Wolfe."
D 6. The name of the Mayor who built the Tun on
Cornhill was not " Henry de Walleis," but " Le Waleys,"
or "Waleys."— The Royal Exchange was burnt, not "on
the 18th January, 1838," but on the 10th of that month.
D 7. " The steeple [of St. Michael's, Cornhill] was
rebuilt in 1721." Is the tower of the church meant
here?
F 4. Oliver Cromwell did not marry " Elizabeth
Bowchier "; .his wife's name was " Bourchier."
F 7. " Sectis Australis Interior Sacelli Fraternam
Sacrosancta Trinitatis," to any one who knows the first
rudiments of Latin, is mere gibberish; read "Sectio
Australis Interior Sacelli Fraternitatis Sacrosanctas
Trinitatis."
G. Charterhouse was not founded by Sir Walter
Manny in 1340-1 ; but in 1349-51.
H 4. "It removed from the Old Bailey to Lincoln's
Inn 1835," speaking of the College of Surgeons. " It -was
removed " at a date prior to 1816, as 1 find by John
Wallis's London, Guide, published in that year, now
before me, and to Lincoln's Inn Fields.
H 6. " The poet Chatterton rests here"— St. Andrew's
Church, Holborn. It is stated, on good authority, that
he was buried in the burying-ground of Shoe Lane
Workhouse.
H 7. "Sir Christopher Hatton, Lord Chamberlain to
Queen Elizabeth "; read " Lord Chancellor."
K 3. " Mrs. Connely held her levees here " (Soho
Square) : " Mrs. Cornelys" is probably the person meant.
K 7. " The notorious Edmund Currl was also pilloried
here" (at Charing Cross). Edmund "Curll," I pre-
sume, is meant.
O 3. St. Thomas's Hospital was "purchased of Henry
VIII by the Corporation of London, July 5, 1551."
Henry VIII. died in January, 1547, more than four years
before.
In the " List of English Plate," &c.—
* 2. It is stated that the use of the piece of plate known
as the " Nef," or Ship, was common with the wealthy on
the Continent, " but was unknown, in England." Imme-
diately after, however, one is mentioned as being pos-
sessed by Piers Gaveston in 1313 ; and another as being
among the plate of our Edward III., in 1334.
In the " List of London Antiquities," &c. —
A 5. "A magnificent candelabra"; "candelabrum,"
is meant.
In the " List of Coins "—
B 3. For " minted at Normandy," substitute " in Nor-
mandy"; we do not speak of books printed, or coins
minted, " at England."
Under "Printers' Medals"—
t 3. For " Francesca da Bologna," read " Francesco."
In " Koman and Mediaeval Antiquities " —
A 2. " Emporium regium a Thomas Gresham ....
conditum "; "a Thoma Gresham" is the correct Latin.
A3. " Victoria D.G. Brit. Regini "; " Regina " would
be correct.
A 4. "The Edkin family at top. Legend: 'Edkin's
Memorial Prize ' ": read " the Edkins family .... Edkins'
Memorial Prize." — " Eliptical .... badge"; read " Ellip-
tical."
£J. "Socet : Panuif :" is perhaps meant for Latin, but
it is not.
That the above may be corrected in the next
edition of a really interesting book, is the object of
your being troubled with this by COLON.
102
NOTES AND QUERIES.
(5tb S. I. FEB. 7, 7*.
THE LICENCE ASSUMED BY LAWYERS.
The authority of a high court of criminal juris-
diction in England to limit the loquacity, and to
restrain within reasonable bounds the licence
assumed in the defence of a culprit, has become a
question of very general interest. In the fourth
edition of a learned and elaborate work by the
Hon. Daines Barrington, Observations on the Ancient
Statutes, published in 1775, the following passage
occurs : —
" In other countries, advocates have been subjected to
penalties even for prolixity,(«) which appears by an ordi-
nance of Charles the Seventh of France, as also many to
the same purpose by his successors. "(/)
To this passage the author has added the follow-
ing notes : —
(«) " In the Court of Session in Scotland, the Lords
have to this day an hour-glass before them. The Roman
advocates used to make a sort of agreement with the
Court, how long they might have a liberty to speak in
defence of their client, as appears by the following epi-
gram of Martial : —
"'Septem clepsydras magna tibi voce petenti
Arbiter invitus, Cseciliane dedit ;
At tu multa diu dicis, vitreisque tepentem
Ampullis, potas semisupinus aquam,
Ut tandem saties vocemque, sitimque rogamus,
Jam de Clepsydra Cseciliane, bibas.'
L. vi., Ep. 35.
" This Epigram of Martial explains a passage in Dio
Cassius, which mentions the giving water enough to those
who were engaged in lawsuits." — L. Ixxvi.
(/) " See Ord. Royales, Paris, 1552, pp. 68-9."
The above epigram is thus translated in The
Epigrams of Martial Translated into English
Prose, and published by Mr. Henry G. P. Bohn,
London, 1860, pp. 276-7:—
" To Caecilianus, a troublesome pleader. The Judge
has reluctantly permitted you, Csecilianus, on your loud
importunity to exhaust the Clepsydra* seven times. But
you talk much and long, and bending half backwards, you
quaff tepid water out of glasses. To satisfy at once your
voice and your thirst, pray drink Csecilianus from the
Clepsydra itself."
" Seven glasses, Csecilian, thou loudly did'st crave,
Seven glasses, the Judge, full reluctantly gave.
Still thou bawl'st and bawl'st on, and as ne'er to bawl off,
Tepid waters in bumbers supine dost thou quaff ;
That thy voice and thy thirst at a time thou may'st
slake,
We entreat from the glass of old Chronusthou take."
Mlphinston.
The clepsydra was early used as an emblem o\
justice in the Athenian courts, and was probably
introduced from Greece into Borne. The licence
assumed by lawyers did not escape the satirica
notice of Swift, when he declared " there was a
society of men among us, bred up from their youth
in the art of proving, by words multiplied for the
purpose, that white is black, and black is white, as
* " A clock which measured time by the fall of a cer
tain quantity of water confined in a cylindric vessel. See
Beckmann's History of Inventions, vol. i. p.
1846."
86.: Bohn
hey are paid. To this society all the rest of the
icople are slaves."
A very interesting chapter, under the title
' Forensic Casuistry," on the duty of an advocate
when he finds that the case of his client is based
n falsehood and fraud, may be seen in a valuable
listorical Essay by William Forsyth, Q.C.,
"jondon, 1849. The question was anciently raised
>y Quintilian, who declared that "the advocate
ill not undertake the defence of every one ; nor
will he throw open the harbour of his eloquence as
\ port of refuge to pirates." " Nor let false shame
>revent him from abandoning a cause in which he
las engaged under an impression that it was just
tvhen he discovers in the course of the trial that it
s dishonest ; but he ought previously to give
notice to his client of his intention."
By one of the Edicts of Justinian it was ordered
hat advocates should take a solemn oath "that
hey were not to uphold a cause that was villainous,
ir supported by falsehood, and if, in the progress
if the trial, they discovered that a case of that kind
lad been entrusted to their care, they were at once
,o abandon it." It was a noble saying of Queen
Elizabeth, that she wished her counsel to remember
.hat they were counsel, " not so much pro Domina.
Elegina, as pro domina veritate." By the ancient
aw of Scotland advocates were required to be
yearly sworn " to execute their office of advocation
diligently and truly, and that as soon as they
understand their client's cause to be unjust and
wrongful, they should incontinent leave the same."
The law of Spain imposes upon them an oath that
they will not defend unjust causes. The advo-
cate's oath prescribed by a modern ordinance of the
representative Council of Geneva requires him to
swear that " he will not attempt to deceive the
judges by any artifice, or by any false expositidn
of facts or law ; that he will abstain from all offen-
sive personality, and not advance any fact against
the honour and reputation of parties."
Sir Edward Coke has declared " that fraud and
falsehood are against the Common Law," of which
he was the great oracle. The illustrious D'Argues-
seau thus addressed the bar of France : " Let the
zeal which you bring to the defence of your clients
be incapable of making you the ministers of their
passions, and the organs of their malignity." A
modern English judge of the purest principles has
declared that " the zeal and the arguments of every
counsel, knowing what is due to himself and to his
honourable profession, are qualified, not only by
considerations affecting his own character as a man
of honour, experience, and learning, but also by
considerations affecting the general interests of
justice." W. B.
THE REV. JONATHAN BOUCHER.
Mr. WALTER THORNBTTRY, in 1866, wrote two
articles in "N. & Q." (3rd S. ix. 75, 282) giving some
L FEB. 7, 74.]
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103
account of my grandfather, the Rev. Jonathan
Boucher, who was, before the American Revolution,
settled in Virginia, and afterwards in Maryland, as
an Episcopal clergyman, and was, after his return to
England, vicar of Epsom, where he died in 1804.
I have lately been reading a MS. autobiography of
" this fine old Virginian Royalist," as MR. THORN-
BURY terms him, and although the greater part
consists of private and family details of no general
interest, there are some passages descriptive of the
troubles of those who held by " Church and King"
in the Revolution, which I venture to think are
worthy of a place in " N. & Q." After reading his
account of his vigorous and high-spirited conduct
in the skirmish in the church (not unlike the
scene in the first chapter of Woodstock], the only
conclusion I can come to is that my grandfather had
not only made a mistake in his politics, but that
he was born a century too late. He should have
been a seventeenth-century Puritan, when he would
have girded himself with " the sword of the Lord
and of Gideon," and gone forth with Captain Fight-
the-good-fight and Sergeant Bind-their-kings-in-
chains to " smite the Amalekites " at Naseby and
Worcester.
With regard to his criticism on Washington's
character it must be taken for what it is worth.
For myself I am much more inclined to accept
Thackeray's estimate of the famous President (The
Virginians, ed. 1872, p. 716). As, however, my
grandfather knew Washington, not merely per-
sonally, but intimately, his account of him is at
any rate interesting. It would, I suppose, be out
of the question to compare Washington with such
soldiers as Napoleon and Frederick, or with such a
statesman and ava£ dvSpwvas our own Cromwell;
but I should think ne is very fairly entitled to be
considered " a great man," although on a lower
level than these giants of our race.
I had better now let my grandfather speak in
his own words : —
" I now found it necessary to have an assistant, as I
had thirty boys. Amongst these was the stepson of the
since celebrated General Washington, and this laid the
foundation of a very particular intimacy which subsisted
until we finally separated, never to unite again, on our
taking different sides in the late troubles. I did know
Washington well ; and although occasions may call forth
traits of character that never would have been discovered
in the more sequestered scenes of life, I cannot conceive
how he could, otherwise than through the interested repre-
sentations of party, have ever been spoken of as a great
man. He was shy, silent, stern, slow, and cautious, but he
had no quickness of parts, extraordinary penetration, nor
an elevated style of thinking. In his moral character he
was regular, temperate, strictly just and honest, and, as I
always thought, religious ; but he seemed to have nothing
generous or affectionate about him. He lived at Mount
Vernon very much like a gentleman, where the most dis-
tinguished part of his character was that he was an ad-
mirable farmer
" Annapolis, to which I afterwards removed, was quite
a new scene to me. It was then the genteelest town in
North America, the residence of the governor and all the
great officers of state The first transaction of any
moment in which I engaged was the assistance I gave in
a convention of the clergy of the province, in which,
chiefly through my instigation, we petitioned for a bishop.
This gave great offence, and for some time neither the
Governor nor other influential men would speak to me.
Conscious of having only done my duty, I would however
make no concessions, and I declared that however much
I might be bound to them in gratitude for past favours.
I would allow no man to dictate to me. The times had
now become beyond measure troublesome : men's minds
restless and dissatisfied, grumbling at the present state of
things, and for ever projecting reformations. In Mary-
land the condition of the established clergy was highly
respectable ; and being all under the patronage of G overn-
ment, they naturally were all on the side of Government.
An Act was sought to be passed by the efforts of a faction,
subjecting the clergy to a novel court composed equally
of laymen and clerks. It was to compel us to accept of
a modus in lieu of tithe. For a long time this was with-
stood, and I was drawn into a long newspaper contest
with two lawyers. All I choose to say of it is, that I was
allowed to have the better of the argument, but they
carried their point
" Queen Anne's parish in Prince George's county now
falling vacant, the Government offered it me. It was in
a healthy pleasant part of the country ; I did not, there-
fore, hesitate to accept tke living. On going to it I had
indeed a most unpleasant reception, for the unpopular
part I had lately taken respecting Government had set
the people against me, and they were, in general, a set
of violent patriots. Hence the first Sunday I found the
church doors shut against me ; and not long after a tur-
bulent fellow paid eight dollars for so many loads of
stones to drive me and my friends from the church by
force. All these difficulties only made me take more
pains ; and though I never made the least concession re-
specting my principles or conduct, I soon made a little
party amongst them, and went on with tolerable quiet,
though never with much comfort.
" I was married in June 1772, and in a short time my
wife accompanied me to my house at Castle (1) twenty
miles from her mother's, and here we sat down to the
business of life with a resolution to do our duty to the
best of our power and be happy. But alas ! the times
grew dreadfully uneasy, and I was neither an uncon-
cerned nor idle spectator of the mischiefs that were
gathering. I endeavoured in my sermons to check the
mischief that was impending, but in vain. I received
letters threatening me with the most dreadful conse-
quences if I did not desist from preaching at all. All the
answers I gave to these threats were in my sermons, in
which I declared I could never suffer any human authority
to intimidate me from doing what I believed to be my
duty to God and his Church; and for more than six
months I preached, when I did preach, with a pair of
loaded pistols lying on the cushion ; having given notice
that if any one attempted what had long been threatened,
to drag me out of the pulpit, I should think myself justi-
fied in repelling violence by violence. Some time after a
public fast was ordained, and on this occasion my curate,
who was a strong Republican, hadjprepared a sermon for
the occasion, and supported by a set of factious men, was
determined to oppose my entering my own pulpit. When
the day came, I was at my church at least a quarter of
an hour before the time of beginning ; but, behold, Mr.
Harrison was in the desk, and was expected, I was soon
told, to preach. In addition to this, I saw my church
filled with not less than two hundred armed men under
the command of Mr. Osborne Sprigg, who soon told me
I was not to preach. I returned for answer that there
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[5th S. I. FEB. 7, 74.
was but one way by which they could keep me out of it,
and that was by taking away my life. At the proper
time, with my sermon in one hand and a loaded pistol in
the other, like Nehemiah, I prepared to ascend my pulpit,
when one of my friends, Mr. David Cranford, having got
behind me, threw his arms round me and held me fast.
He assured me that he had heard the most positive orders
given to twenty men picked out for the purpose to fire on
me the moment I got into the pulpit, which therefore he
never would permit me to do, unless I was stronger than
himself and some others who stood close to him. I main-
tained that once to flinch was for ever to invite danger :
but my well-wishers prevailed, and when I was down it
is horrid to recollect what a scene of confusion ensued.
Sprigg and his company contrived to surround me and to
exclude every moderate man. Seeing myself thus cir-
cumstanced, it occurred to me that there was but one
way to save my life ; this was by seizing Sprigg, as I im-
mediately did, by the collar, and with my cocked pistol
in the other hand, assuring him that if any violence were
offered to me, I would instantly blow his brains out. I
then told him he might conduct me to my house, and I
would leave them. This he did, and we marched together
upwards of a hundred yards, guarded by his whole com-
pany, whom he had the meanness to order to play the
Rogues' March all the way we went. Thus ended this
dreadful day, which was a Thursday. On the following
Sunday I again went to the same church, and was again
opposed, but more feebly than before. I preached the
sermon I should have preached on the Thursday, with
some comments on the transactions of the day.
" The time was now fast approaching when if I did
not associate, and take the oaths against legal govern-
ment, I should be proscribed, and unable to get out of
the clutches of these misguided men, for on the 10th of
September all farther intercourse with Great Britain was
to be stopped; so that I began to think seriously of
making my return to England. On mentioning this to
my wife she concurred in my opinion, and even pressed
me to it, though such a step could not but be ruinous to
all my prospects in America ; but to stay would have
been equally fatal to my property and my life, and cer-
tainly to my peace. Our scheme was that she should
remain behind me, and take the best care she could of my
estate, in the hope that in a year or so the storm might
blow over and I return to her. She, however, found her-
self quite unequal to such a separation, and entreated me
not to urge it. It was, therefore, settled that we should
sail at once for England. Though we had not a week to
prepare ourselves in, my dear wife got everything ready,
but as it seemed to be of moment for the preservation of
our property that we should go away with the avowed
purpose of returning again, and that we might appear
effectually to do so, we took none of our effects with us.
I came away with but one suit of clothes and bills of ex-
change to the amount of little more than 400Z.
" On the 10th September, 1775, we left our house,
amidst the tears and cries of our slaves, and went on
board a small schooner, the Nell Gwynne. Our accom-
modations here were very bad, and as I told my wife,
ominous, I feared, of the hardships she would have to
encounter. We slept on one of the miserable bunkers in
the wretched cabin, with a piece of old sail for our
coverlid, and a bag of hominy for our pillow. Yet she
declared she slept soundly, and so did I, owing no doubt
to the great exertions of body and mind to which we had
been so long subjected. After a day and night we reached
our destined ship, the frigate, and on the 20th, the
wind being fair, we sailed with a fresh breeze down the
Chesapeak, and soon lost sight of the capes of Virginia,
never to see them more. Our voyage was tempestuous
but short. We landed at Dover on the 28th October."
I have only to add that the above-mentioned
lady, my grandfather's first wife, was a Miss Addi-
son, of the same family as the immortal Spectator.
JONATHAN BOUCHIER.
2, Stanley Villas, Bexley Heath, S.E.
DOUBLE EETURNS IN PARLIAMENTARY ELEC-
TIONS.— The following is a list of those elections
which have resulted in double returns (in one case
a treble return), and how they have been finally
decided since the Keform Act in 1832, up to the
present date : —
Aylesbury— 1859.
Bernard, C . . 552
Smith, C . . . ) KOK Smith seated on scrutiny by
Wentworth, L . j one vote.
Coleraine— 1832.
Beresford, C . ) Q- Mayor's casting vote for
Copeland, L . j Beresford, but on petition
Copeland seated.
Dumbartonshire— 1865.
Smollett, C . . \
Stirling, L
Campbell, L . )
Brett, C . . . J
Aldridge, C . . )
Hurst, L . . j"
380
574 Query.
Helstone— 1866.
153 Campbell on petition.
Horsham— 1868.
Hurst seated, Aldridge de-
clining to defend seat.
Huntingdonshire — 1857.
Rush, C . . . 1,192
Fellowes, C . . \ i i nfi On scrutiny Fellowes seated.
Heathcote, L . / I)1UD
Knaresboro' — 1852.
Dent, L . . . I Vote struck off Westhead,
Westhead, L . >- 113 and others returned.
Wood, C . . . )
Collins, C . . 107
Lanarkshire — 1837.
Lockhart C . | 3 485 Query.
Murray, L . . j
Montgomery Boroughs— 1847.
Pugh, C . . . \ OQQ P^11 seated, Cholmondeley
Cholmondeley,C j declining to defend.
Thetford— 1841.
Baring, C . . 86
Flower, C . .) 71 E.Euston unseated and Flow-
Earl Euston, L j er subsequently elected.
Totness— 1839.
Baldwin, C . . ) -, 19 Declared void as to both
Blount, L . . / candidates.
E. PASSINGHAM.
p. S.— In the General Election of 1841 Messrs.
Pryse (L) and Harford (C) were returned as equal
in consequence of the loss of a poll-book, but Mr.
Pryse obtained the seat upon petition.
A "LABYRINTH" OF S. BERNARD. — The fol-
lowing is copied from a board hanging on an inside
staircase wall of the Latin convent on the summit
of Mount Carmel. This labyrinth consists of five
maxims, " quo bene vivit homo," which are to be
thus deciphered. The word " Noli " in the bottom
5th S. I. FEB. 7, '74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
105
square to the left is the commencement of each
precept ; " dicere," in the upper square to the left,
is the second word of the first ; " omnia quse," in
the next square but one to the left on the bottom
line, is the third; "scis" (in the upper line) is the
next, and so on, zigzag, until " non vult" is arrived
at. So that the first maxim runs thus : " Noli
dicere omnia quse scis, quia qui dicit omnia quse
scit ssepe audit quod non vult." The second is
elicited by the same process, taking " fa-cere " as
the second word, and so on.
Labyrinthus a divo Bernardo compositus quo lene
vivil homo.
Dicere
Scis
Dicifc
Scit
Audit
non vult
Facere
Potes
Facit
Potest
Incurrit
non
credit
Credere
Audis
Credit
Audit
Credit
non est
Dare
Habes
Dat
Habet
Misere
quaerit
non
habet
Judicare
Vides
Judicat
Videt
Contem-
nit
non
debet
Noli
Omnia
quaj
Quia qui
Omnia
quae
Saepe
Quod
Spotland, Kochdale.
W. S. MACKEAN.
THE ASPIRATE H.— An Indian prince, the Eao
of Cutch, who had for his private tutor a distin-
guished Irish officer, now a lieutenant-general,
sagaciously observed to him, " Why, in such words
as whip, do you write the aspirate after the w,
though you sound it before it 1" S. T. P.
PARALLEL PASSAGES. — Examples of similar
thoughts, occurring in the writings of different
authors, are occasionally cited in " N. & Q." as
instances of plagiarism. But in many of these
it may as fairly be assumed, unless the imitation
is too servile to be mistaken, that the same idea
may have presented itself spontaneously to two
minds, neither of which knew that it had been
adopted by the other.
Thus Burns sings of "the lasses" as classed
among "the noblest works" of Nature:—
" Her prentice ban' she tried on man,
And then she made the lasses, 0."
And a Hindu poet, in a romantic legend of Eaj-
pootana, which has never been translated, thus
describes the heroine*: —
* Ind. Antiq., ii. 341.
" None other in the world has been formed from the
mould in which M£ru was cast,
Either the mould is broken, or the workman is unable
to make another."
Although not exactly parallel, the same idea has-
been suggested by the Muse to both her votaries,
neither of whom had the faintest knowledge of the
existence of the other. W. E.
GRISELDA AS A PLAT. — The story of Griselda,.
now being acted on the stage at the Princess's-
Theatre, in a version dramatized by that popular
novelist, Miss Braddon, appears to have given rise,
in days of yore, to one or more comedies, as I find
that in Bakers Biographia Dramatica, edition
1782, mention is made, as hereunder, of the follow-
ing plays: —
"Patient Griseld. Com., by Ralph Radcliffe. Not.
printed. (No date given.)
" Patiente Grissell. C. Anonymous, 1603. The plot,
of this piece is founded on Boccace's Novels, Dec. 10,,
Nov. 10. The story is also to be found very finely told
in a poem, called Gualtherus and Grisalda, which is a
translation or modernized versification of one of Chau-
cer's Canterbury Tales. This piece was entered, by
Cuthbert Burby, on the books of the Stationers' Com-
pany, March 28, 1600."
CRESCENT.
Wimbledon.
MONUMENTAL INSCRIPTIONS. — "We have had afc-
various times some extravagant specimens of
monumental inscriptions in " N. & Q." Is it
possible to match the three following 1 I copied
them myself, and can vouch for their correctness,
1. S. Mary, Luton, Bedfordshire.
" Sacred to the memory of Theodosia Mary, the beloved,
now unceasingly lamented wife of Sam1 Crawley of*
Underwood, Esqr. by whom, in admiration of her virtues
and out of respect to her memory, this monument ha*
been erected : they were married June 19, 1817- She-
died Jan. 3, 1820, leaving one child.
" Her virtues were indeed of that superior cast as to-
at once pronounce her the most perfect of beings ; her
faith and hope in Christ steadfast ; her temper angelic,
her heart warm and affectionate, her friendship sincere ;.
as a wife and a mother she was a pattern ; in a word,
she was faultless, matchless, without equal ; and ha&
left her husband inconsolable, her infant, her uniform
virtues, her best inheritance.
" She was indeed too good for this world, and the
Almighty claimed her for his own that he might confer
upon her the prize of everlasting bliss in heaven, the
just reward of her virtues in this world, and as procured
for her by the mediation of her Saviour Christ Jesus.
" 0 world ! thou art indeed a loser. She the gainer
of immortality ! "
2. All Saints, Vange, Essex.
" To the memory of Mary the Vertvovs wife of George
Mavlex Rector of this Parish, and Charles their only
child ; .Shee was the davghter of Jvstinian Champnefifr
of Wrotham, and of Sarah davghter of John Darel
Calehill in Kent, Esqvires.
" Shee dyed Septemb. 4th 1659.
"Reader, putt off thy Shoes, thou tred'st on Holy
earth,
Where lyes the rarest Phoenix, and Her Onely Birth,
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Whom Shee svruived, 0 strange vnheard of wonder!
But (Alas !) now dead, those pauements buried under :
Lament Her loss, the world grows worse, of her rare
brood
There is none left, to breed the like ; Shee was so
good.
Blest Saint ! once mine Squall ; 0 might I now
adore thee,
Thy bliss, my loss, that thou to rest art gone before
me,
0 let thy Cinders warm that Bed of dust for me,
(Thy mournfull Husband) till I come to ly by Thee.
Lugens fudit G. M. supradict Sacr. Theolog. Bac-
calaur."
3. All Saints, East Horndon, Essex. Dame
Martha Tyrrell, March 27th, 1690, aged 27.
" Could this Stone Speake it would the Reader tell
She that lies here did Her whole sex excell.
And why should death with A promiscuous hand
At one Rude Stroake impoverish a land."
In this church is a magnificent incised slab to
the memory of Lady Alice Tyrrell, A.D. 1422.
A. H. B.
Brentwood.
LITHOTOMY IN THE SEVENTEENTH CENTURY. —
The following extract, which I copied several years
ago from the parish registers of Hunstanton, pos-
sesses many points of interest : —
"Hoc anno (1630) vii die August Robtus Burward
vicarius de Hunstanton versus Londinum iter arripuit, et
post sex Hebdomadas in quibus Chirurgum ibi expec-
taverat, xxii die Octobris inter horas x et xi ante me-
ridiem pro calculo in vesica inscisus fuit per MaMullins;
et admiranda Dei misericordia bonitate et auxilio suffultus
patienter admodum scissurum sustinuit ; post xvi Heb-
domodas feliciter fere sanatur, et tandem xvi die Peb-
ruarii felici ac prospero itinere ad Hunstanton revertitur.
Deo optimo maximo suntgratiae ingentes. Amen."
The vicar did not, however, live for many months
to enjoy his restored health, for in the following
year occurs this entry: —
" 1631. Robertus Burward sepultus erat July 3nl."
J. CHARLES Cox.
Hazelwood, Belper.
LAW AND SENTIMENT. — The following extract
from a curious and scarce work, entitled,
"The Warning Voice of a Hermit abroad who has
been compelled to write in his Justification, and he hopes
for the Good of Mankind, under the protecting hand of
Divine Providence (for which he can never be thankful
enough) through a long and tedious passage of the Most
Imminent Perils and Dangers of being extinguished and
sent to his Grave. By Richard Milnes, of Horbury, near
Wakefield, late of Shepley Bridge, Mirfield, by Leeds,
Yorkshire. Wakefield : printed for the Author by E.
Waller, Wood Street, 1825" (large 4to. 181 pp.).
may interest some of your readers, as showing that
sensibility dwells even in the very sanctum of
Themis : —
" My crying at this very excellent sermon brought to
my mind that I once went with a friend, in London, to
see the famous Garrick in King Lear ; we sat with our
backs to the front box, and at our back sat Lord Mans-
field on one side, Lord Thurlow on the other, a great
Law Lord, and they every one cried at this play ; then
well might I cry at a good sermon."
CHARLES A. FEDERER.
Bradford.
THE LORD CHAMBERLAIN'S INSPECTION OP
THEATRICAL PIECES. — We all remember the inter-
ference of the Lord Chamberlain, at the Court
Theatre, in the play of Happy Land; and, accord-
ing to the Echo of Jan. 8, 1874, that official pro-
hibited the appearance of certain, caricatures of
Mr. Gladstone, Mr. Lowe, and other members of
H.M.'s Government, which were introduced into
the new burlesque of Buy Bias Righted, at the
Vaudeville Theatre.
The play which gave immediate rise to the Par-
liamentary Bill by which all dramatic pieces are
obliged to undergo the inspection and censure of
the Lord Chamberlain, before they can be admitted
to a representation, was called The Golden Rump ;
an anonymous piece, never acted, and never
printed, which was offered to Mr. Henry Giffard,
manager of Goodman's Fields Theatre, for repre-
sentation; and in which abuse was vented most
freely not only against the Parliament, the Council,
and the Ministry, but even against Majesty itself.
Fielding, in Pasquin, a dramatic satire on the
times, acted at the Haymarket in 1736 ; and in
his comedy of The Historical Register, acted also
at that house, in 1737, had cast severe reflections
upon the Ministry; and it is supposed by the com-
piler of Baker's Biographia Dramatica that the
prime minister (Sir Robert "Walpole), dreading
such satirical strokes levelled at his measures, and
anxious to stop over-caustic criticisms by a preven-
tion of licentiousness for the time to come, found
means to have The Golden Rump written by some-
body or other, and sent to Giffard, who, falling
into the trap, carried the piece to the Minister, to
consult him as to what was best to be done with
so slashing and abusive a composition. Sir Eobert,
once in possession of the MS., made such use of it
as immediately occasioned the bringing into and
passing in Parliament of the Bill referred to above.
Some correspondent will doubtless supply the
date of this Licensing Bill ; and whether the Act
of Geo. II. remains in force, or has been superseded
by later legislative enactment. CRESCENT.
Wimbledon.
[Sir Robert Walpole had "winced "at Fielding's satire
of him, as Quidam, in The Historical Register for 1736.
The Licensing Bill, still in force, passed in 1737. Ches-
terfield (opposing it in the Lords), said, " You have no
right to put an excise on wit. Wit, my lords, is the pro-
perty of those who have it, and too often the only
property they have to depend on. It is, indeed, but a
precarious dependence. Thank God, we, my lords, have
a dependence of another kind ! ! "J
. I. FEB. 7, 7*.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
107
Ouerierf.
[We must request correspondents desiring information
on family matters of only private interest, to affix their
names and addresses to their queries, in order that the
answers may be addressed to them direct.]
"TEDIOTJS" — KENTISH USAGE. — Extract from
a letter from the Isle of Wight, dated Jan. 7, 1874,
Eyde :—
"A Family whom we know have a picture of an
Ancestress which they have lent to an exhibition now
open here. In the Catalogue it is stated that she lived
to be 162 ! She was a Countess of Desmond— a Fitzgerald.
" In Kentish language you would call her ' a tedious ' old
woman indeed. The dates of her birth and death are
given, and the reigns through which she lived ; so it is
not a mistake in the figures. Referring to the Catalogue,
I see it is stated that she was born in 1464 ; married in
the reign of Edw. IV. : lived during the reigns of Edw. IV.,
Edw. V., Rich. III., Hen. VII., Hen. VlIL, Edw. VI.,
Mary, Elizabeth, James I., and died at the beginning of
Charles I.'s reign. The portrait is by Rembrandt."
In addition to the curiosity of this asserted
longevity, I cite the letter to call attention to the
singular use of the word " tedious" as a superlative
in Kent. The writer, a younger brother of mine,
refers to it as a usage known to me when I lived
in that county many years ago. Another brother
had a curacy in the same county, which was at one
time the head-quarters of our family, and he too
has often repeated to me the same use. A lad at
a cricket-match would say, " That was a tedious
swift ball," or " That was a tedious hard hit."
Once my brother was catechising a class in his
village school, when he asked all round, in reference
to the Deluge, What is a flood ? No reply, till the
smallest girl of the class jerked out, with a feeble
effort, "a tedious lot of water." Is the use
known elsewhere 1 HERBERT EANDOLPH.
Sidmouth.
MEDIAEVAL WINES. — " 2 ollas de argento plenas
vino dulci voc' Osey " (Prob. JEt. Hugonis Mor-
timer, 12 Hen. VI. 52). Is this a wine known
now, and by what name? "Vin' vocat' clarre"
• (various authorities). Claret, or clary 1 I suppose
most of us were told in our youth that George,
Duke of Clarence was drowned in a butt of
malmsey. Was there ever such a wine 1 I find
frequent allusions in mediaeval documents to " vin
de Maluesie," but malmsey is a word I have never
yet encountered out of print. HERMENTRUDE.
WILLIAM COMBE, AUTHOR OF "DOCTOR SYN-
TAX."— This voluminous writer, whose extraordinary
career has never yet been fully traced out, died in
the Lambeth Eoad, on the 19th June, 1823. He is
said to have been intimate with Walter of the
Times, and to have been a frequent writer in that
journal. Can any one who has access to a file of
that paper for 1823 say whether it contains an
obituary notice of him ?
Did Combe leave a will ? If so, does it make any
allusion to his papers, or any provision for his
illegitimate children ? M. E.
TWELFTH DAT. — Dr. Dasent, in an Essay on
Norse History, states that our Twelfth Day is called
in Norway St. Kneed's, or Canute's, Day, and that
the proverb respecting it is that the saint drives
out Yule with the whip, his emblem. In the recent
book on Weather Folk- Lore by Mr. Swainson, he
quotes a proverb respecting St. Kneed's Day, fixing
the date July 10th. Which is the correct date ?
A. S.
OLD STORY. — Where can I find the following
story ? A village schoolmaster, from some part of
England, had an intense desire to visit Home. To
effect this object he saved his small earnings until
he thought he had amassed a sum sufficient to
provide for his expenses. At last, after walking all
the way from Calais, he came within sight of the
Eternal City, when, resting, he bethought himself
to count his slender store of money, and the result
was, finding he had spent exactly half the sum
with which he had set out, he retraced his steps,
and spent his last penny in paying for the ferry
which brought him back to his native village.
J. B.
Melbourne, Australia.
ISABEL, OR ELIZABETH, THE WIFE OF CHARLES
V., EMPEROR OF GERMANY AND SPAIN. —
" II eut une sensible douleur de la mort de I'lmperatrice
Madame Isabel, qui mourut en peine d'enfant a Toledo
[year or date not given]. Les signes qui ont accoustumS
de preceder de si grands accidens, ne manquerent pas en
cette occasion ; puisqu'il 'y eut ce jour-li une Eclypse
de Soleil, et qu'il parut une Comete epouvantable." —
Histoire de Charles V., par Don Jean Antoine de Vera et
Figueroa, Bruxelles, 1663, p. 233.
According to the History of Portugal by Faria y
Souza, p. 333, Steeven's translation, Elizabeth died
at Toledo, A.D. 1539; but nothing is said regarding
the month of her death. Upon what date of the
month did this event occur, and where is an account
to be found of the solar eclipse and comet said to
have been visible on the day of its occurrence ?
E.
" THE THIRD FOOT."— In the N.E. of Scotland
a person is sometimes said to be at " the third
foot" when he is very busy, — overwhelmed with
work, as it were. Is the phrase known elsewhere,
and how does it arise 1 NORMAN-SCOT.
HUNGARY. — I want a history of the War of
Independence in Hungary during the year 1848.
A. L.
PRINCE RUPERT. — What were his arms ? Was
he entitled to " Bohemia (with a label) quartered
with England " ? G. E. P.
STORER FAMILY. — Information is desired re-
specting this family, especially of Thomas Storer,
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5th S.I. FEB. 7,74.
•who possessed property at Southeram, near Lewes,
>Sussex, about 1624. When did Thomas die, and
what were the names of his wife and children, if
:any 1 E. H. W. DUNKIN.
Kidbrooke Park Road, Blackheath, S.E.
THE PHILOMATHS. — A literary club at the end
of the last century was called the Philomaths.
They met every Tuesday in London, and discussed
abstract questions such as War, Love, Justice, and
the like. I shall be glad to have further infor-
mation about them. C. KEGAN PAUL.
SIR DAVID LINDSAY OF THE MOUNT. — In his
; notes to Marmion, Sir Walter Scott complains of
> the carelessness of Mr. George Chalmers in editing
Lindsay's works, and cites a specimen of his dis-
regard for the elucidation of the author's text. The
poet, recounting his services to James V. during
.Ms childhood, is made to say —
" The first sillabis that thou didst mute
Was pa-da-lyn upon the lute.
Then plaied I twenty springis perqueir,
Which was great pleasour for to hear."
• Scott says : —
" Mr. Chalmers does not inform us by note or glossary
what is meant by the king muting pa-da-lyn upon the
• lute ; but any old woman in Scotland will bear witness
that pa-da-lyn are the first efforts of a child to say,
* Whare 's Davie Lindsay ? ' and that the subsequent
words begin another sentence —
' Upon the lute '
Then played I twenty springis perqueir, &c.' "
Few persons, I imagine, will be disposed to
•question the accuracy of Scott's amendment. For
a child to play (or mute] pa-da-lyn, or anything
•else, upon the lute would be impossible, and it is
obvious the poet meant by the expression to
acquaint the king of his first attempts to speak ;
but it appears to me that Sir Walter's explanation
of pa-da-lyn is not quite satisfactory. I am of
opinion that the " sillabis " pa-da-lyn do not mean
" Whare 's Davie Lindsay?" but "Play Davie
Lindsay " ; and the succeeding words seem to bear
•out this notion —
" Upon the lute
Then played I," &c.
— that is to say, in obedience to the child's request.
Very possibly this reading may have occurred to
•others besides myself. To me it appears self-evident;
but I should be glad to learn through the medium
of " N. & Q." whether Scott's amendment is gene-
rally accepted as correct. W. A. C.
Glasgow.
BISHOP BUTTER'S PORTRAIT. — In one of the
-volumes of the Chetham Society's publications
(Manchester), illustrating the " Stanley Papers " is
an etched portrait of this bishop of Sodor and Man
(seventeenth century). Although the date of pub-
lication is scarce seven years old, not one person
connected with it can tell me where the original
steel plate is to be found, or even the name of the
engraver. The Eev. Canon Eaines, of Milnrow,
was the editor of the papers, and the late Rev. Mr.
Hornby, of Naples, was the donor of the etching.
Lord Derby, who has the original painting, knows
nothing of the engraving, nor does his librarian.
I should be very glad if any of your corre-
spondents could possibly infonn me who was the
engraver, or where the plate is now deposited.
H. J.
QUOTATIONS WANTED. —
"But thou art fled
Like some fair exhalation,
The brave, the gentle, and the beautiful,
The child of grace and genius."
Epigraph in the Life of the Duchesse d'Orle'ans: —
" France
Whose heart I thought I had, for she had mine."
S. G. B.
JOCOSA AS A CHRISTIAN NAME. — Was this ever
in common use ? I saw it on a tombstone, about
a century old, at Kingsthorpe, near Northampton.
JAMES BRITTEN.
VISCOUNTT OF BUTTEVANT. — Where can the
record of the establishment of the claim to this
peerage be found 1 I have a printed pedigree of
the descent to the present viscount, but it does not
show the reference. S.
BAXTER ARMS. — What is the correct blazonry
of the arms of the late Sir David Baxter, of Kil-
marron, Fife 1 He died in 1872. E. H. FIRTH.
SEATS IN PARLIAMENT. — Did our early legis-
lators sit on bolsters during their labours in the
House 1 In the Wardrobe Boll (of Henry Snaith,
Keeper of the Wardrobe) for the year 37-38
Edw. III. (A.D. 1363-64), 39/7, I find an entry of
the delivery to Henry de Karsewell, one of the
King's tailors, of 32 ells of canvas for bolsters for
the House of Parliament : —
" Eidem [Henrico de Kareswell, Cissori domini nostri
regis] pro bolsters pro domo parliament^ apud west-
raonasterium, per manus Johannis Hawilyng f&ctis, xxxij
vlnas, per iiij. quarteria,* Canebi."
Chaucer's name is not mentioned in this Eoll.
F. J. FURNIVALL.
LT.-COL. LIVINGSTONE, 1689.— Was the traitor
Lt.-Col. Livingstone the same person who married
the widow of Dundee and eventually became
Viscount Kilsyth? In 1689, he was Lt.-Col. of
Sir Thomas Livingstone's Regiment of Dragoons,
and being detected in a traitorous conspiracy, _was
arrested and sent to Edinburgh, where he remained
a prisoner for several years. GEO. CLEGHORN.
13, Pittville Parade, Cheltenham.
JOHN HALL, THE ENGRAVER. — In a sale at
Sotheby's, on the 10th November last, of engrav-
* This must mean 4 quarters broad.
5th S. I. FEB. 7, 74.]
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109
ings, &c., the property of the family of the late Sir
B. West, P.E.A., there was an oil portrait described
as " The original picture, by Stubbs, of John Hall,
the celebrated Line Engraver." On seeing the
same I was as much struck with the general
unlikeness to Hall, as represented by Gilbert
Stuart in the portrait at the South Kensington
Museum, as by the striking likeness to Wooflett,
who hangs close by, also painted by Stuart, sub-
stituting the wig of the period for the cap in which
he is there, as he is generally represented.
Supposing the portrait to have been painted by
Stubbs (and he painted very few), is it not more
likely, from the fact of Woollett being associated
with him, by the engraving of several of his paint-
ings, that it is a portrait of him rather than Hall ]
L. H. H.
"JURE HEREDITARIO." — This seems a very
simple phrase to create a difficulty ; but where, in
our early chronicles, it is stated that A. B. acquired
certain manors "jure hereditario," does it mean
" by hereditary right," that is to say by descent,
or does it, occasionally or invariably, mean "in
hereditary right," that is to say for an estate of
inheritance ? I abstain from quoting the particular
instance in which my difficulty arises, in order
that the grammatical question of interpretation of
a mediaeval Latin phrase may not be mixed with
the historical one of the particular title referred
to. J. F. M.
PAPAL RATIFICATION OF THE PRIVILEGES OF
AN ENGLISH TOWN. — In the record, dated 33
Hen. VI., of a certain lady's admission to the
freedom of a town, the following clause occurs : —
"Ac etiam predictam Cristinam registrar! fecimus in
libris nostris, in memoria omnium privilegiorum nos-
trorum, in cartis nostris contentorum, quequidem privi-
legia, omnia et singula, Sanctissimus in Christo pater
nosier et dominuf Deo Nicholas papa quartus graciose
ralificavit."
What could Pope Nicholas IV. have had tD do
with the privileges of an English town ?
M. D. T. N.
HERALDRY. — To what families do the following
bearings belong respectively; they occur in Benolts's
Visitation of Devon, 1531, and are the quarterings
of a family of the name of Hereford (? of where) 1 —
(1) argent on a chevron gules, three spear heads or;
(2) gules, on a bend argent, three roses sable ;
(3) sable, seme'e of cross-crosslets arg., two griffins
rampant combattant or. (1) apparently represents
the bearings of an heiress of " Wood of Eynsham,
com. Oxford"; (2) is a quartering of this family;
and (3) belongs to a name, as far as I can read it,
of " Trefer of Winborne, com. Dorset." The arms
of the family of Hereford above-named are given
as argent, a fesse lozengy gules, in chief a lion
passant guardant sable. A. F. H.
Liverpool.
CHAP BOOKS. — Wanted any specimen or series
of the old chap-books, which I can consult at the
British Museum or elsewhere. H. M.
[See 2nd S. i. 270; v. 435, 522; vi. 88; viii. 22.]
THE GOTHIC FLORIN. — What was the origin
of this coin of the reign of Queen Victoria, the
exact number coined, and why was the issue
stopped? W. B.
ALTAR FRONTALS. — In early drawings of altar
frontals, apparently a stole is shown hanging over
in front at the two ends. What are the meaning
and explanation for this 1 In many good modern
frontals the design seems indirectly to embody this
idea. E. M. M.
ON SHAKSPEARE'S PASTORAL NAME.
(4th S. xii. 509.)
MR. ELLIOT BROWNE hardly rises to the height
of his own arguments in merely assuming that
Philisides is Sir Philip Sidney, when he might
assert it with certainty. To those arguments may
be added these. First, three from Alexander's
addition to the third book of the Arcadia,. He
makes Philisides die of a wound in the thigh from
an empoisoned dart thrown by an unknown hand,
and Sidney died of a chance bullet wound in the
thigh, which, ending in inward mortification,
seemed to confirm the belief that shot wounds
were poisoned wounds. Philisides' calm death
and quiet address to his friends is an imitation of
Sidney's, and the desire to live in their friends'
memories is common to both death-bed speeches.
The history of the " tilting in Iberia (where I was
borne) dedicated to the memorie of the Queene
Andromanes marriage," — when a novice in armes
he, with Musidorus, Pyrocles, and others in their
train, ran in a pastoral show against the Corinthian
knights, — is a plain reference to the magnificent
tournament and show before the French embassy
that came over to negociate the marriage with the
Duke of Anjou in 1581, and in which Sidney,
Fulke Greville, the Earl of Arundel, and the Lord
Windsor were the challengers and Knights of
Desire that attacked the Fortresse of Perfect
Beautie. In the chroniclers (see Nichols' Progr.)
the feats of arms in this tournament are described
in much the same glowing terms as those used by
Alexander's Philisides. Fourthly, Sidney writing,
Philisides speaks autobiographically of himself in
"The song I sang old Lanquet (Languet) bad me taught"
(Arc., B. III.) and thus identifies himself with
Sidney. Fifthly, the second book of Browne's
Britannia's Pastorals is dedicated to William,
Earl of Pembroke (1616) ; and in one of the commen-
datory verses, probably by Wm. Herbert, we have,
" Hee masters no low soul who hopes to please
The Nephew of the brave Philisides."
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
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But there is a sixth and more cogent argument.
It is a great mistake to suppose, that because one
poet speaks of a friend, statesman, or other poet
under a pastoral name, that such name became a
sort of baptismal Arcadian name recognized and
adopted by all. Even Spenser, though he had
the authority of arch-poet, did not impose names
used by all. Sidney he spoke of under Sidney's own
assumed name, Astrophel, but Drayton calls him
Elfin, Bryskett, Spenser's friend, Philisides, and
A. W. Willie, probably from the Wiltshire stream
that gave its name to Wilton, while Spenser's
Willie, I believe, after fresh investigation, to be
certainly, and in accordance with Malone's belief,
John Lyly. Here, however, there can be no doubt
as to Philisides, for it has no meaning in Greek,
English, or any other tongue, unless it be a Gre-
cized form of Phil[ip] Sid[ney],
Next, as to "good Melibee." Thenot asks
Collin, that is Chettle, who, as appears from
another passage in the Mourning Garment, was
then about fifty, what had been said by wise men
of old as to certain state events of their times.
He asks Collin, one of the passing generation, what
he had heard from men of his own and a past gene-
ration as to the causes of war between Spain and
England in 1586 or 7. Now here it is to be noted
that, Spenser being dead, Chettle wittingly calls
himself " Collin," acknowledging that he takes the
name in these words — "I cannot now forget the
excellent and cunning Collin indeed (for alas I
confesse my selfe too too rude)." And it is to be
noted, in that it is, as I believe, one of the three
examples in the book of the re-giving of a pastoral
name after the first owner's death. Melibee is a
second instance. The "good Melibee" of this
passage I have for some time taken to be Walsing-
ham, as suggested by MR. ELLIOT BROWNE, not
only because Watson so called him in his eclogue
on his death, but because Spenser in reference to
this very eclogue calls him, in The Ruins of Time
(1591), by the epithet which Chettle, as Collin the
second, takes from him —
" Good Melibee, that hath a poet got
To sing his living praises being dead."
But this good Melibee being dead, Chettle, speak
ing of poets now alive, calls Marston the friend o
Anti-Horace Dekker, not good Melibee nor even
Melibee, but "young Melibee." The error o
thinking that "songs" in pastorals necessarilj
meant songs or plays, and not the sayings, or a
the text glosses it " saws," of the persons spoken
of, according as they were poets, statesmen, o
prose writers, and non-attention to this distinctive
epithet young, have lead to Mr. K. Simpson'
curious mistakes in his Introduction to the Siege oj
Antwerp. As MR. BROWNE justly says, Marston
in 1586, or even 1588, was but a child. Again
Walsingham, being dead in 1590, Drayton, no
bound by Chettle's authority, or probably writinj
ome time before 1603, applies the name Melibee
o some one who was either related to, or a great
riend of, Sidney, and of a station at least equal
with Sidney's or Walsingham's. In his eclogue
ament of Sidney he says (Eel. vi.) —
" Thou that down from the goodly western waste
To drink at Avon driv'st thy sunned sheep,
Good Meliboeus that so wisely hast
Guided the flocks delivered thee to keep,
Forget not Elphin."
And then in similar strains he adjures
" Alexis that dost with thy flocks remain
Far off within the Caledonian ground."
Now this Melibosus cannot be Walsingham, be-
cause the latter had no connexion by birth or
property with Salisbury Plain and Wiltshire,
md because we know that this eclogue is a
re-written form of a previous lament published in
1593. Nor can he be Marston, as MR. SIMPSON
would again have it, for first the words and the con-
text show that statesmen or nobles are spoken of;
secondly, because Marston was then a young man
about town writing plays, and, in 1605, imprisoned
for writing Eastward Ho ; thirdly, because though
his father-in-law, or future father-in-law, as a
clergyman in Wilts, might have had sheep to keep
there, Marston had none ; and, fourthly, because
all that we know or rather can suppose of Mar-
ston's place of residence after he ranged himself
is that it was at Coventry. But, as I have said,
the poem, by its subject and wording, was pro-
bably written long before its supposed date of
publication in or about 1605 (for the volume has
no date), and its good Melibceus is, I should say,
the husband of Mary Sidney, Countess of Pem-
broke.
Lastly, as to Melicert. I confess that though
the conjunction of Sidney, Walsingham, and Shak-
speare was a strange one, I was inclined to think
that Chettle could not have given the same name
to two people in one book. But, since reading
MR. ELLIOT BROWNE'S note, and reconsidering
the matter, I believe that the smooth-tongued
Melicert of the Philisides and Melibee trio must
have been a statesman or person of eminence, and
the significant name Honeycomb, or he of the
honeycomb, agrees well with Ascham's notice of
Burleigh in his Introduction to his Scholemaster,
and with the description given for instance in
Chalmer's biography. The same consideration is,
I believe, the common key of the three examples.
Colin dead, Chettle adopts the name ; Walsingham
dead, Drayton gives the name Melibceus to
another of eminence, probably the Earl of Pem-
broke, who died 1601, and Chettle, both being
gone, gives it, with the distinctive adjunct young,
to a new poet ; Melicert the statesman, being dead,
Chettle applies it, when speaking of living poets,
to Shakspeare of the honied muse.
I cannot but think, however, that in the absence
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Ill
of any points of marked resemblance, and I can
see none such in MR. ELLIOT BROWNE'S instances,
the Walsingham theory not merely weakens but
disposes of his other belief that Chettle called
Shakspeare after the Melicertus of Greene's Mena-
phon. The supposed meaning of Melicert, the
character of Melicertus, and the terms applied to
Shakspeare by Meres, Chettle and others, suffi-
ciently account for the respective choice of names.
A remembrance of the name in Menaphon may have
been what physicians call an exciting cause to
Chettle, just as grandfather John may be a reason
for calling a son John, but in this case I don't
think Shakspeare Melicert has even Menaphon
Melicert's nose, but a distinct and well-shaped head
of his own. BRINSLEY NICHOLSON.
Red Hill, 9th January, 1874.
P.S. The Marston who is supposed to be the
dramatist is described by Wood as of Coventry.
In this Marston's will, however, he calls himself
of London, and his bequests refer to Southampton
in especial, to persons in Shropshire, Surrey, and
London, but without mention of any place or person
in Wilts.
DR. BOSSY: ITINERANT EMPIRICS.
(4th S. xii. 47, 477.)
The very amusing note of my friend, DR. RIM-
BAULT, induces me to send some account of three
worthies all more or less of the Bossy class.
The stage or waggon doctor is now rarely met
with in England, and we may say the same of him
on the Continent. AbouU/hirty years ago, a Doctor
Burnett used to visit the Craven Dales. He had
his carriage — a comfortable van — neatly fitted up
as a chemist's shop. The doctor had a gentlemanly
exterior. His dress was of the finest black, what
a tailor would call superfine. His hair was
powdered, and he wore a neatly-trimmed pigtail.
He was polished in his manners and address.
Indeed, he was too gentlemanly, and " Your ser-
vant, sir ! " with bowings, and scrapings, and un-
covered head, was of more frequent occurrence
than there was any occasion for. A stranger meet-
ing the doctor in a country lane would have set
him down for the parish clergyman — for he was
too natty to have been mistaken for the parish
clerk, the national schoolmaster, or the Methodist
parson. I cannot say where the Doctor learned
politeness, perhaps it was at that celebrated
academy where "them as larns manners pays
tuppence a week extra !" If so, it is perfectly
clear that the doctor's instruction had been con-
fined to the manners' class, and had not extended
to the grammatical one. When we conversed with
him, we discovered his ignorance, not only of the
common rules of grammar, but also of the healing
art which he professed to practise. His chemical
knowledge may be guessed at, when it is stated
that he sold " cholera of lime ! " — i. e. chloride !
He had, however, numerous friends, and his
"red-pills," a remedy against indigestion, were
much esteemed, and were taken by many who
ought to have known better. He also sold a
liquid which he called his " Medicamentuin Ameri-
canum." It was a universal panacea, and when
combined with the red-pills, it cured " aw macks
ov ailments " — at least, so said the peasants, who
used to call it Th' American mend 'em or cure
owt, i. e., cure for all things Doctor Burnett and
his " cure owt " figure in the Stories of the Craven
Dales.
Burnett was accompanied by a lanky youth, who
wore a livery that looked like a faded stage pro-
perty. This dress was profusely edged with a
thick gold lace that had become soiled and dingy.
This specimen of a hobble-de-hoy called at the
houses and left announcements of his great master's
arrival. These notices were to be kept clean till
called for. Burnett is the only itinerant English
practitioner that I can call to mind. He died
many years ago. I regret that the gravity of his
deportment was such as prevents me from classing
him amongst empirical humorists, such as the
Doctor Bossy of my learned friend. I will now
pass to the Continent.
In Switzerland a Doctor Rock — said to be from
Geneva — used to frequent the Valais and Vaud.
He had a rudely constructed caravan, from the
stage-front of which he gave a dramatic exhibition
— a scena between himself and daughter. It was
a sort of comic duet — what the cafes-chantants call
a duologue, and the performers were dressed in
character. When the " Comedy," as it was called,
was finished, the Doctor's daughter, a showy girl,
would beat a drum and sound a gong as a musical
prelude to the medical and surgical orations of her
father. Like our Doctor Burnett, the Swiss char-
latan had his pet digestive pills, and his universal
remedies in draughts. The dramatic display was
only made in certain places, such as the square
near the old abbey at St. Maurice. As on such
an occasion many of the hearers did not patronize
the pills or potions, the Doctor's daughter went
round with a plate or with her papa's hat — a pro-
ceeding that always caused a skedaddling among
those whose love of music was not such as induced
them to pay the piper ! Kock used to exhibit at
Lausanne, until he was stopped by the Board
of Health, or, as he said, by the jealousy of the
Lausanne practitioners.
For some time past Rock has wholly disappeared.
I have heard that he is dead.
In Italy an itinerant doctor used to exhibit in
the great square of Bologna and in the piazzas or
places of other cities — particularly in the
Piazza della Signora at Florence. Dottore
Trentano was a regular practitioner and a
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graduate of an Italian University. Why
he, an educated and clever man, should have
adopted such an irregular mode of practice I can-
not say. He had a carriage — such an one as Con-
tinental commercial travellers use. The box seat
had just room for two persons — the rest of the
vehicle being a capacious closet or depository,
where the bottles, &c., were stored. Trentano
•was a serious-looking man, in a very plain dress ;
and his public anatomical lectures, which were
illustrated by a folio of coloured plates, and a
human skull and bones, were listened to with every
mark of attention. When a patient left the crowd
to consult the doctor there was no hurry. The
ailing man had to take a seat on the box and then
to pour his complaints into the Doctor's ear. This
would last for a quarter of an hour and sometimes
much longer. During this auricular process there
was nothing to amuse or astonish the multitude,
except an occasional feeling of the pulse, or an
application of the stethoscope. On my last visit
to Florence and Bologna I missed Trentano.
Some said that he was dead ; other accounts said
that by the solicitations of the faculty he had been
induced to abandon his public practice and to
settle quietly down as a village practitioner. I
know not which account is the true one ; all I can
state is that he has disappeared.
JAMES HENRY DIXON.
Dr. Bossy was not a German but a Spaniard.
When young he was placed in a monastery in Spain
by his father, but this mode of life proving dis-
tasteful to him, he effected his escape and even-
tually settled in England, when he changed his
name from Garcia (his patronymic) to Bossy. My
authority is his grandson, now living.
G. A. GOLDFINCH.
59, Walford Road, South Hornsey.
DR. JOHNSON AND MRS. TURTON (5th S. i. 30.)—
The Turtons here referred to are not the branch
descended from Sir John Turton and his wife
Anne, daughter of Samuel More of Linley, co.
Salop. An excellent and correct pedigree of
Turton of Alrewas, co. Stafford, is given in Shaw's
Staffordshire, vol. i., p. 133.
The following notes by Mrs. Eicketts, daughter
of Swynfen Jervis, of Meaford, co. Stafford, and of
Elizabeth Parker, his wife (grand-daughter of Sir
John Turton), will explain some matters alluded to
by MR. GRAZEBROOK : —
" Mr. Turton of Orgreave and Aldrewas, in Stafford-
shire, was father of Sir John Turton, one of the Justices
of the King's Bench in the reign of King William 3rd.
He (Sir John) married Miss Anne More, of the great
family of that name, of Linley in Shropshire. They had
issue one son, named William; Elizabeth, Mary, Margaret,
and Anne.
" William Turton married Miss Elizabeth Bent,
daughter of a wealthy merchant in London, a woman of
uncommon quickness and understanding, and lived to
near 80 at Alrewas. They had issue one son, John, and
one daughter, Elizabeth.
"John married, 1st, Miss Benson of London; by her
he had, 1.* William ; 2. Catharine. He married, 2ndly,
Miss Beckford, of the family of Beckfords in Jamaica ;
by her, Jane = Sir Philip Musgrave of Eden Hall, Cum-
berland : and 3rdly, Mabella, daughter of Dr. Swynfen
of Swynfen. He died upwards of fourscore in 1771.
Mr. William Turton* (son of John Turton and Miss
Benson) never married. He had two illegitimate
children, a son, and a daughter, married to Mr.
Frederick Evelyn, afterwards Sir Frederick Evelyn,
Bart."
This son is the ancestor of the Turtons of Brasted.
The daughters of Sir John Turton were Elizabeth,
married Mr. Davis of London ; Mary, married Mr.
Walcot of Walcot, co. Lincoln ; Margaret, married
George Parker of Parkhall, Esq.; Anne, married
Thomas Mulso, Esq. By Mabella Swynfen, John
Turton had a son, John, and two daughters.
Sir John Turton leaves bequests to his nephews,
William Turton and Philip Turton, sons of his
brother Philip ; to their sisters, Elianor Hadder-
sitch and Mary Deverell, and to his " cosyns," Mr.
John Turton of the Oak, Mr. William Turton, his
brother, and Mrs. Sarah Turton, their sister.
THUS.
THE O'BRIENS OF THOMOND (5th S. i. 32.)— The
prominent position which this family has filled in
Irish history, induces me to add to MR. WARREN'S
note, and to show that Lord Inchiquin, although
chief of a younger branch of the O'Briens, is heir
male to the first earl (and last independent prince)
of Thomond.
Turlogh O'Brien, called by the Irish, King of
Thomond, and the Imeal heir of Brien Boiromhe,
had two sons who left male descendants ; of whom
Connor, the eldest, died in the reign of Henry
VIII., when the sovereignty of his country de-
volved, according to the custom of Tanistry, on
his younger brother Murrough, whose territory of
Ibraekan was transferred to Connor's son Donough.
In 1542, the English king decided on endeavouring
to reconcile the Celtic dynasts to his superiority
by taking from them a surrender of the estates and
rank which by Tanistry was only theirs for life, and
returning the lands with English titles which should
descend to their male heirs. Murrough, son of
Turlogh, was then O'Brien, chief of his powerful
sept ; and he agreed to give up the rights, which,
as such, belonged to him, if he were created Earl
of Thomond. But St. Leger, the Lord Deputy,
had more confidence in the loyalty of his nephew,
and heir by Tanistry, than in his ; and he and the
Council wrote to Henry VIII. —
" That that graunte coulde not precede without the
greate detryment and disparagement of Donnogh Obreyn,
whiche ys nexte to be Obryn, and had servid very
honestely your Majesty in the rebellyon tyme."
They therefore suggested that —
" Obreyn, for the tyme leing, shalbe placed in your
5" S. I. FEB. 1, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
113
parlyamente by the name of Erie of Thomonde, and the
seconde, or Senescall of Thomond, to be placed as a
Vicounte."
Of this curious arrangement, which was to have
been carried out by the authority of Parliament,
and would apparently have attached a Parlia-
mentary dignity to a Celtic chieftainship, the King
at first approved, provided Donough be made a
baron only, and that merely by what we should
call a title of courtesy, since it was to be under-
stood—
" That the heire of th' Erie of Thomonde, from hence-
forth, must abide his tyme to be admitted as a member of
our Parliament till his father or parent shalbe decessed,
and to be only an hearer, standing barehed at the barre,
besides the Cloth of Estate, as the youg Lordes doo here
in our Realme of Englande."
The patents, as eventually granted, are fully re-
corded in the article of Burke's Peerage to which
MR. WARREN refers, who will see that, although
Lord Clare was prevented from legally ^inheriting
the earldom of Thomond by the outlawry of the
third Viscount Clare, no attainder interferes with
the claim of the Eev. Edward O'Brien, if his
descent is correctly set forth.
That article, however, is in error in stating that
the last Earl of Thomond left his estates to Mur-
rough, afterwards Marquis of Thomond. Murrough,
Lord O'Brien, to whom he left them in 1738, was
the fourth, but then the only surviving son of
William, fourth earl of Inchiquin, and died in
childhood of small-pox, seven months after Lord
Thomond, when the estates devolved on Lady
Thomond's relatives, the Wyndhams. GORT.
MOSES OF CHORENE (5th S. i. 49.) — I cannot
give MR. HAIG the reference to the particular
Bampton Lecture he speaks of ; but Cornelius a
Lapide (i. 165, edition, Paris, 1861) gives the
reference to Moses of Chorene, book I. chap. ix. ;
and Smith's Bible Dictionary (s.v. Togarmah),
after referring to a former article to show that
that name is connected with Armenia, mentions
MR. HAIG'S ancestor as follows : —
" The Armenians themselves have associated the name
Togarmah with their early history, in that they represent
the founder of their race, Haik, as a son of Thorgom."
(Moses Choren. i. 4, § 9-11.)
CHARLES F. S. WARREN, M.A.
FERINGHEE AND THE VARANGIANS (4th S. xii.
224, 293, 456.)— DR. CHANCE asserts that
Varangian is probably or possibly a corruption of
Frank, and " it seems the name of Varangians was
first given to them by the Eussians, whom they
had conquered." This is easily decided, not
by reference to secondary authorities, but to
the Chronicle of Nestor, which shows that the
present Eussians took the name of Eussians from
the Warings ; that in the land where the Warings
lived there were Warings called Eussians, as
others were called Northmen, English, and Goths.
At that epoch, under the Eastern name of
Varangians, the Warings were associated with the
English, as they were afterwards in the Varangian
guard at Constantinople. They will also be found
so associated in the pages of Tacitus as Angli et
Varini (Germania, VII., ch. 40), not to speak of
other instances. It might be thought we were
sufficiently interested in our national antiquities to
learn what had become of a tribe so coupled with
us at an early date and on many occasions ;
but English historical investigation has never re-
ceived sufficient encouragement or assistance, and
has been chiefly dependent on the chance labours
of individuals. On this head of the Varini, or
Warings, however, there is sufficient material.
In The Proceedings of the Society of Antiquaries,
for 1849, it will be found that, on the 8th Feb., a
paper was read by me, in which the Varini were
connected with the Varangians of Eussia. Without
referring to other occasions, about 1861, a paper
was read by me on the Warings before the Literary
Institution at Constantinople, published in the
Levant Quarterly Review, and republished in a
separate form. This has been a motive for local
archa3ological inquiries. On the 25th Feb., 1868,
I read a more complete memoir, " The Varini of
Tacitus ; or, Warings and their Eelations to
English Ethnology," before the Ethnological
Society, and which will be found in their journal.
Of this too separate copies were distributed.
This memoir, which is now known to many
historical inquirers, contains a large mass of re-
ferences to the classical, Byzantine, medieval,
Eussian, and oriental authorities. As the word
Varini, or Waring, is as old as Tacitus, it does not
appear probable it is derived from Frank or Franci.
Any connexion must rest on another base.
It will be seen from the memoir that, as the two
great empires of England and the United States
were founded by one race, so was that of Eussia.
With regard to the expeditions of the Warings
against Constantinople, they are well known, but
their conquest of Bulgaria has attracted less
attention. Their share in the invasion of Hungary
and Armenia, and their expeditions, according to
the Arabian historians, on the Caspian Sea remain
to be examined, as also their connexion with the
Avars and Huns.
There is one passage in the history which one
might be surprised has not attracted notice at the
present moment of the marriage of an English
prince into the house of Eomanoff. It is well
known that the marriage of Henry Le Bel, King of
France, with a daughter of Jaroslaus, Duke of
Eussia, carried into the veins of the royal families
and gentry of the west the blood, not only of
Euric the Atheling, but of the house of Basil,
the Macedonian, claiming a Eoman and Arsacid
descent. These latter pretensions, it may be
observed, enable a fabulous genealogy to be
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
L5«hS.I.FBB. 7,74.
traced not only to the historical epochs of Cyrus
and Gracchus, but to the mythological epochs of
Jupiter, Hercules, Venus, Jfeneas, and half the
gods of the Pantheon.
It is certainly worthy of note that a thousand
years after the conquest and foundation of the
Eussian Empire, our race should again be con-
nected with Slavonia by the marriage of two
descendants of Euric.
With regard to the name of Russians, I am now
more confident that its origin is to be attributed to
the Eugii. HYDE CLARKE.
SIMPSON ARMS (5th S. i. 49.)— Does J. W. S.
suppose that armorial bearings are attached to a
name, or does he imagine that all persons who
bear the common surname of Simpson are of the
same family 1 He is informed that not only do
the various Simpson, Simson, or Sympson families
not bear " the same crest, &c.," but that a large
proportion of them have no right to bear any arms
at all G. K.
The crest of this family in Durham is a dexter
arm holding a wreath of laurel, proper.
F. S. A.
" LE CAFFE, ou L'ECOSSAISE " (5th S. i. 50) was
written, I believe, by John Hume, or Home, Esq.,
of Ninewells, Berwickshire, the elder brother of
David Hume, the historian. It is stated in the
Preface that it is written by " M. Hume, pasteur de
1'Eglise d'Edimbourg, deja connu par deux belles
tragedies, joules a Londres : il est le frere de ce
celebre philosophe Mr. Hume" It is not men-
tioned by Baker in the Bio. Dram,, under the head
" Home, John," where six plays, all tragedies, are
attributed to him. Baker seems to know but
little of him, believes he is related to the historian,
and has heard that he has some pretensions to the
title of Earl of Dunbar. For his pedigree see
Burke, Landed Gentry (edition 1853, i. 614).
Boswell gives an amusing illustration of John
Hume's ready wit and sense of humour in his
Life of Johnson (edition 1791, i. 248). J. Hume
received a pension through Lord Bute, at the same
time as Johnson. EDWARD SOLLY.
THE MARSHALS OF FRANCE (5th S. i. 9.) — The
following is a list of the marshals of France who
have been condemned and executed, but J. B. G.
will see that only one of them has been shot : —
1. Gilles de Laval, Marshal de Eetz, for his
horrible crimes, was condemned to be burnt it the
stake ; but, out of respect for his noble family, he
was strangled before the flames reached him, and
his body was not reduced to ashes. He suffered at
Nantes in 1440.
2. Louis de Luxemburg,' Count de St. Pol, Con-
stable and Marshal of France, having engaged in
conspiracies against Charles VIL and Louis XL,
was delivered up to the latter by the Duke of
Burgundy, and decapitated on the 19th Dec., 1475,
on the Place de Greve.
3. Charles de Gontaut, Duke de Biron, Admiral
and Marshal of France, greatly distinguished him-
self at the battles of Arques and Ivry, and at the
sieges of Paris and Eouen, was advanced to the
peerage and made marshal by Henry IV. He
entered into several conspiracies against his bene-
factor, and having joined in the scheme for par-
titioning France into several small states by the
aid of Spain and Savoy, he was arrested and be-
headed inside the Bastile, on the llth July, 1602.
4. Marshal de Marillac, a notable soldier in his
day, was arrested in the midst of his army for con-
spiring against the life of the all-powerful Cardinal
Eichefieu. He was beheaded in the Place de
Greve, on the 10th May, 1632.
5. Henry II., Duke de Montmorency, Marshal
of France, joined the conspiracy of Gaston de
Orleans against Cardinal Eichelieu, and took up
arms in the province of Languedoc, of which he
was governor. The king sent against him Marshals
De la Force and Schomberg, and a battle ensued
at Castelnaudary, where the Duke was defeated and
taken prisoner. He was beheaded at Toulouse, on
October 30th, 1632.
6. Baron de Liickner, Marshal of France, one of
the captains under Frederick the Great, entered
the French service and played a conspicuous part
in the military operations in the north during the
first years of the Eevolution. He fell under the
suspicions of the Eevolutionary Tribunal, and was
guillotined in the Place de la Eevolution, Nov.,
1793.
7. Philippe de Noailles, Duke de Mouchy,
Marshal of France, was arrested for his royalist
proclivities, and died on the scaffold in 1794.
8. Michael Ney, Prince of Moskowa, Duke of
Elchingen, and Marshal of France, shot in the
garden of the Luxembourg, on the 7th Dec., 1815.
So that out of the nine marshals of France who
have been condemned to death, Bazaine is the
only one who has escaped the extreme penalty.
' E. N.
" THE NIGHT CROW " (5th S. i. 25.)— It may
help in the elucidating of MR. JESSE'S query to
say that the Welsh call a certain bird a " night
crow" (brdnnos). — See in Welsh Bible, Lev. xi. 16,
Deut. xiv. 15, where the English translation gives
" night hawk." Thomas Edwards, in his English
and Welsh Dictionary (Holywell, 1850), gives the
translation of the word " night raven " as bran nos,
i.e., night crow, " which," said he, " is called the
corpse bird." To this day when the bird called
the night crow visits any place, it is regarded by
the peasants in some parts of Wales as foreboding
" lucklesse time " — a death generally. Pughe, in
his Welsh Dictionary (1832), under the word
5th S. I. FEB. 7, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
115
" Delluan," says that the corpse bird (" Aderyn y
Corff" of Thomas Edwards) is the brown owl.
One rhymer wrote of that bird as follows : —
" The corpse bird with his dog's nose,"
i.e., the sense of smell is so acute in that bird that
it scents afar off, as does a dog the trail of its prey.
K. &M.
DIALOGUE BETWEEN CHARON AND CONTENTION
(4th S. xii. 428.)— Whether the following formed a
part of the " excellent good Ballant," which has
gone amissing, I do not know ; but as it is found
in a book of fifty years' prior date to the " Cogita-
tions," 1688, and is in the same vein, it may very
well be tacked to the verses you have printed.
Charon and the Eoman Prelates are the inter-
locutors here : —
11 B. B. Charon have ore, the Ghostlie Fathers come
To thy torne Boat, and their Eternall Home.
" C. Who;calls the Ferry-man of Hell1? B. B. It's wee
Prime Statesmen of the Roman Prelacie ;
Bring not thy scurvie Barge which looks so thin
As any Cloud, as old as Sunne, and Moone.
"C. Deils in these Prelates pride, they've left the Earth
Into a fair combustion, after death
They 're come the very Hells for to confound,
And our Infernall common-wealth to wound.
Enter right Reverend, many Catholic kings,
Popes, Monarchs, which this nimble Vessell brings
Each hour, into these fatall mansions, doe
Embarque without a scruple. What are you ]
Come, good my Lords, you must be rul'd by me,
You had your Time, now take your Destinie,
Though your big-bellies could engrosse a Coach,
Yet if your soules sink, I '11 byde your reproach."
See The Passionate Remonstrance, "Edingborough,"1641.
A. G.
WILLIAM LAURENCE, RECTOR OP STRETHAM
1615 TO 1621 (5th S. i. 29.)— The name of William
Laurence occurs in Bloomfield's History of Norfolk,
but I am unable to identify him as the above.
William Laurence, rector of Caston, resigned
August 15, 1579, rector of Ellingham in 1585, and
afterwards rector of Thurlton from 1606 to 1611,
when he resigned. W. WINTERS.
Waltham Abbey.
AN INSCRIPTION (4th S. xii. 89.)— I take the
inscription on the bronze mortar to be old Dutch,
and to mean " Praise (or thank) God for all." I
have a very handsome bronze mortar enriched with
two rows of arabesque ornaments and mouldings,
with two dolphins for handles, and having the in-
scription " Laus Deo Semper, 1685." Engraved on
the upper rim is a shield charged with a fleur-de-
lis, between the letters P and E. This example
has the original bronze pestle. A. W. M.
Leeds.
" DADUM I RETURN" (4th S. xii. 517.) — A similar
expression is made use of by the working class in
Essex and Hertfordshire, pronounced, however, as
" addum " or " attum." This appears to be simply
a provincial contraction of " at the time " or " that
time." THOS. BIRD.
Romford.
REALISING THE SIGNS OF THOUGHT (4th S. xii.
472.) — I was much interested in the query of
PELAGIUS, and expected a good many replies.
My expectation has failed ; and I begin to think
that the peculiarity to which he alludes, instead of
being imaginative only, as I supposed at first, may
be feminine. I beg to inform him that though I
do not see counters arranged in a pattern, I do see
mentally a long column of Arabic figures, one
representing the base ; and I never think of a
figure unconnected with its proper place in the
column. Similarly, every century runs upwards
in a column. The alphabet is arranged in the
same manner, Z representing the base ; nor do I
ever think of a word without seeing it in type.
While I say this, I feel that I ought also to confess
that " upwards of thirty" has been a puzzle to rne
ever since I can remember ; and that I always
have to pause and think whether " the middle of
the sixteenth century" means 1650 or 1550.
My sister-in-law confesses to a similar mental
vision as to figures, but hers are arranged in a
circle. My brother cannot understand us at all.
HERMENTRUDE.
TIOVULFINGACAESTIR (5th S. i. 68.) — This name
would corrupt from Theudulf, — or Theodulf-ing,
" descendant of Theudulf" ; or even from Theodul-
ing, " descendant of Theodule."
E. S. CHARNOCK.
Grays Inn.
SIR JOSHUA REYNOLDS: Miss DAT: MRS
DAT (5th S. i. 67.)— Miss Day, Mrs. Day, and
Nanny Day, are generally written of, and I believe
rightly, as one and the same person. It is quite
possible that the entries in Sir Joshua's pocket-
book apply to two different portraits, for the lady
had the credit of being widely admired. The fol-
lowing extract from an uncollected letter of Horace
Walpole's to Madame du Deffand may be interest-
ing to MR. MASON : —
"June 1773. Un ancien ami m'a recommande en
mourant, une sienne maitrease et des enfans dont je suia
une espece de tuteur. Cette femme se maria a un
gentilhomme, et s'en separa 1'annee apres. Elle s'est
etablie a Calais par economic, et pour clever ses filles^au
couvent. Elle se conduit tres sagement et tres honnete-
ment, voit la meilleure compagnie de la ville, en est
aimee et respectee ; son banquier vient de mourir. II
fallait passer a Londres pour avoir le consentement de
son mail a un nouvel arrangement de ses affaires. Elle
est ici. On voudrait donner son hotel, qui est grand,
beau, et a bon marche, au nouveau Commandant de la
place. Elle en a ecrit a M.de Monteynard, qui lui a fait
une r6ponse tres honnete, mais sans demordre totalement.
Elle croit quo la protection pourrait la sauver. Tout ce
qu'elle demande, c'est de garder sa maison, jusqu'a la fin
de son bail, c'est a dire deux ans et demi."
CHITTELDROOG.
116
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5th S. I. FEB. 7, 74.
BURNING THE DEAD (5th S. i. 28.) — Some months
after the death of the Ranee, H.H. the Maharajah
Dhuleep Singh conveyed the body of his mother
to India, where it was burnt according to the rites
of the country. It was at Cairo, on his return to
England, that the Maharajah first saw the lady he
afterwards married, the present Maharanee.
EDWARD F. RIMBAULT.
CLOCKMAKERS (5th S. i. 29.) — Tompion lived at
Brentford at the beginning of the last century. I
have one of his clocks at my country house. I
forget the Christian name and the date, but will
write to A. E. G. the next time that I go down
there if he wishes to know. P.
At Windsor Castle is an old clock made by
Knibb in 1677. In the Camden Society's Secret
Services of Charles II. and James II., vol. lii., are
various payments made for the King. In the
account up to July 3, 1682, is an item, " Paid to
Mr. Knibb (the same person, I think, referred to
above) by his said Ma'tie's comand, upon a bill for
Clockwork, 141Z." SAMUEL SHAW.
Andover,
In a kind of newspaper, called The Affairs of
the World, and published in October, 1700, is the
following notice : —
"Mr. Tompion, the famous watchmaker in Fleet
Street, is making a clock for St. Paul's Cathedral, which,
it is said, will go one hundred years without winding up ;
will cost 3000J. or 4000J.. and be far finer than the
famous clock at Strasburg."
The following advertisement appeared in Mer-
cator, No. 79, 21-4, Nov., 1713 :—
" On the 20th instant, Mr. Tompion, noted for making
all sorts of the best clocks and watches, departed this
life."
E. H. COLEMAN.
Thomas Tompion lived at the corner of Water
Lane, Fleet Street, where he died in 1713. Joseph
Knibb, according to a token, is called " clockmaker
in Oxon., 1677." With the names of the others
I am unacquainted. EDWARD F. RIMBAULT.
[Thomas Tompion and George Graham were buried in
the nave of Westminster Abbey. The slab over their
common grave, on which are commemorated their
"curious inventions" and "accurate performances,"
removed at the beginning of the present century, but
happily not destroyed, was replaced, in 1866, together
with that over Sir Isaac Newton's grave.]
" LIKE " AS A CONJUNCTION (5th S. i. 67.) — In
compliance with the request " for instances, early
or late, of like only used as a conjunction, with the
verb expressed," I refer to Mrs. Wood's novels
passim, contenting myself with one quotation
from East Lynne : " It came into her mind . . .
like it had done before." (Bentley, 1862, Part II.
chap. iv. p. 172.) It would, I doubt not, be easy
to find similar illustrations of this usage in other
modern writers whose English may be more or les
lipshod, but not in careful and accurate authors,
n the case of these latter, whether early or late,
he apparent use of like as a conjunction is mostly
iue to an ellipsis, by the judicious supplying of
ivhich all may be set right ; thus in the example
*iven, " The lion shall eat straw like the ox," may
not the sense stand thus : " The lion like the ox
in this particular) shall eat straw"? There is
mother class of examples where vividness or
•icturesqueness has been obtained by a variation
if case ; thus, when it is said that such a man has
in eye like a hawk, is it not intended to say an eye
ike a hawk's, although we take for comparison the
whole bird instead of that particular part of it, the
iye 1 So also in Hamlet : —
"An eye like Mars to threaten and command,
A station like the herald Mercury."
he first line of which, in confirmation of my theory,
altered in Punch, some years ago, to —
" An eye like Ma's . . . ."
and illustrated by Leech or some other.
W. B. C.
HERALDIC (4th S. xii. 88, 137.)— The arms
azure, three roses argent, two and one, were borne
ay a family of Nevill ; they are so assigned by
Edmondson in his Complete Body of Heraldry, but
;here is not any clue to what branch of the family
;hey belong.
(4th S. xii. 109.) — Argent, on a bend engrailed
vert, is the coat of arms of the family of Rickards
of Wales and Hereford, who quarter gules, three
roses argent, a chief (not in chief) vair for Taylor.
A. W. M.
Leeds.
" BLACK- A-VIZED (OR) VIC'D" (5th S. i. 64.)—
S. T. P., in his interesting commentary on this
word, tells us that "the word occurs in the
beautiful story of Rob and his Friends "; it also
occurs in an authority which will be more accept-
able to the Scots than even the excellent Dean
Ramsay, and that is his namesake and predecessor,
Alan Ramsay, who thus describes himself in an
epistle to Mr. James Arbuckle, Jan., 1719, line
69, et seq.: —
" Imprimis then, for tallness I
Am five foot and four inches high ;
A blackavic'd snod dapper fallow,
Nor lean, nor overlaid wi' tallow ;
Wi' phiz of a Morocco cut,
Resembling late a man of wit (wut),
Auld gabbih Spec."
This was The Spectator, in which a description is
given of himself [the spectator] as the silent
gentleman. The glossary rightly interprets black-
avic'd of a black complexion ; this will tally with
Alan Ramsay's " phiz of a Morocco cut." What a
pity it is that this sweet poet is not more read in
this country. J. HAIN FRISWELL.
Fair Home.
5th S. I. FEB. 7, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
117
"DE QTJINCEY: GOUGH'S FATE" (4th S. x. 331,
418.) — I was lately much surprised to come across
the following passage in Bishop Watson's Memoirs
(London, 1817); I was shocked to find that doubts
had ever been thrown upon the fidelity of Gough's
terrier, that sublime love which has been more
splendidly celebrated than that of any other dog.
Bishop Watson thus writes to Mr. Hayley: — " On
one of our highest mountains (Helvellyn) a man
was lost last year ; two months after his disap-
pearance his body was found, and his faithful dog
sitting by it ; a part of the body was eaten, but
whether hunger had compelled the dog to the deed
is not known." I trust MR. JESSE will notice this
horrible suspicion in his promised work, and be
able to show that the poor animal deserved the
praise of Scott and Wordsworth.
J. H. I. OAKLET.
HENRY HICKMAN (5th S. i. 31) was not rector
of Brackley, but vicar, the incumbency being a
vicarage. In an anonymous History of Brackley,
published in 1869, by Alfred Green, a bookseller
in that borough, we are told that Hickman was a
Worcestershire man by birth, a Fellow of Magdalen
College, Oxford, A.M., and a preacher without any
Episcopal orders, first at St. Aldate's, Oxford, then
at Brackley ; and that he was much resorted to by
men and women in the time of interruption and
usurpation, and that he continued there till the
Act of Uniformity displaced him. He died at
Leyden in 1692. Wood enumerates his contro-
versial tracts, written from the Presbyterian point
of view. WILLIAM WING.
Steeple Aston, Oxford.
QUOTATIONS WANTED (5th S. i. 87.) —
" We shall march prospering," &c.
See Browning, The Lost Leader.
M. L.
" To thank with brief thanksgiving," &c.
See Mr. Swinburne's " Garden of Proserpine,"
Poems and Ballads, pp. 196-9.
^.'\. . H. BUXTON FORMAV.
GREEK ANTHOLOGY (5th S. i. 88.)— There are
not many modern anthological works, I believe,
from which a selection can be made. Each school,
too, will probably recommend its own publication.
Anthologia Gr&ca in usum Scholce Mugbiensis
has the advantage of being more recent in date
than Bruge's Westminster and Eton edition ; but
this latter has been literally rendered into English,
and contains metrical versions by Bland, Merivale,
&c. Keeker's Commentatio de Arith. Grcec. ranges
in the dates of its editions from 1843 to 1852.
The anthological works of the fifteenth, sixteenth,
and seventeenth centuries, from which the modern
Greek authors have extracted valuable hints for
new eTTtypa/x/iara, are sadly defective in their
pagination. BARROVIUS.
Westminster.
CURIOUS COIN OR TOKEN (5th S. i. 87.)— The
article mentioned by N. H. R. appears to be a
copper coin of the East India Company. The
" fishing-hook " is an Indian character : I am not
learned enough to say what its meaning is. The
coin in question, I should suppose, is much worn.
Probably over the heart, on the reverse, there has
been a figure like that of a 4-, and the heart has
been crossed diagonally ; in the upper segment
there has been a v, and in the three other segments
E . i . c. As the dimensions are not given, it is not
easy to say what its value is, but probably it is
one- twelfth of an anna = half a farthing. I believe
it is of no rarity. T. J. A. (OLIM CCC.X.I.)
BERE EEGIS CHURCH (4th S. xii. 492 ; 5th S. i.
50.) — Without wishing to be hypercritical, I must
ask permission to make a few remarks on one or
two of LORD LYTTELTON'S emendations of the
text of this epitaph, and likewise on some parts
both in his and MR. WARREN'S translations which
do not seem to me correct.
The emendations I object to are — finding no
fault with the others — " Prasdicatorem " for Prce-
diatorem, contending for the latter as the proper
word. Prcediator is a specific law term, glossed by
Du Cange, " WI^TTJS virap-^ovriav. vTrepfopov S?mov
fv8c8(p.evos. Emptor praediorum"; rendered by
Cooper (Thesaurus), " men of law expert in actions
real, or matter concerning lands." In middle Latin,
it was used of persons who were " familiar with
mercantile law, and hence were often consulted in
points relating to it by lawyers." (White and
Kiddle, sub voce.} A valuer, land-agent, appraiser, or
perhaps as MR. WARREN gives it, " a conveyancer."
2. " Comma, not a full stop, after narcoticum " ;
I cannot see my way to this. " Quo devictus "
surely begins a new sentence, and has no sort of
connexion with the one preceding, nor is there any
authority for LORD LYTTELTON'S " whence," in his
translation. " Quo " is the relative of " morbo
herculeo," not, as LORD LYTTELTON and MR.
WARREN seem to take it, of " extreme progressu."
The latter gentleman's rendering is clearly wrong,
" he found his estate a trouble, worn out by which,"
&c., as "narcoticum" can never possibly mean
trouble, nor anything short of the very opposite. I
am vain enough to think my own rendering the best
as yet, taking the or do verborum thus : " Tandem
laborans per triennium herculeo morbo, quo de-
victus"; open, however, always to correction.
3. "Set apart when he passed into ashes," _ is
LORD LYTTELTON'S rendering of "ad quisquilias
decessoris, sepositae jacent exuviae." I cannot concur
in this, as it seems to me a mistranslation, and,
moreover, not a full one. For surely " sepositae
exuviae " are neither grammatically nor logically to
be referred to " ad quisquilias decessoris," but to
"Andreas Loupi," the " quisquiliae decessoris" being
the ashes, or remains of some one — father or an-
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[5* S. I. FEB. 7, 74.
cestor — who had died before him, and by (ad) or
beside of which, his own were laid. MR. WARREN
has quite caught the sense, and given it very
happily.
I notice nothing else but the date of the year, as
to which we all seem to be at issue. I gave 1643,
under the supposition that the x might have been
transposed by some blunder of the engraver, and
ought to have been joined to the former three.
However it may be as to 1637, it cannot by any
possibility be 1639.
. I am indebted both to LORD LYTTELTON and
MR. WARREN for the light which they have thrown
upon one or two passages, of which I could make
neither " top nor tail." Does any one know who
this Andrew Loupi was 1 EDMUND TEW, M.A.
P.S. Upon re-perusal I find, "1. 4, 'coneulcus'
should be concalcas, or concalces " ; sorry to say, I
think not, and for a very cogent reason, which is
that the Latin language has no such word. Calco
in composition becomes culco, e. g. inculco, deculco,
occulco, proculco, and so here conculco. Conculcus
is wrong doubtless, not being Latin, and I think
conculcas or conculces may be accepted as legitimate
emendation. Perhaps in the penultimate the a for
u may be a misprint.
AFFEBRIDGE : BODING (4th S. xii. 328, 375,
484 ; 5th S. i. 39.)— Whether the river took its
name from the nine hamlets, or the hamlets took
theirs from the river, has been a doubtful point
with most authors. I think it probable that the
river gave the name. Roding is clearly a com-
pound name, and the termination ing or meadow
must be separated from the Eod. I believe the
oldest records name the river Rodon ; this is prob-
ably Saxon, and might mean either " a long and
narrow thing," or be derived from "a cross."
Now Higher Roding, or Rod-meadows, are those
highest up on the river Rod-on, or nearest to its
• source ; and the name higher or upper seems to
refer to the river. If this view is correct, we have
first the river Rod or Rodon, which gives its name
to the adjoining meadows as Rod -ings ; and more
lately the river taking its name from the meadows,
and changing from Rodon to Rodings.
EDWARD SOLLY.
" PAYNTER STAYNER " (4th S. xii. 354, 453.)—
The Painter-Stainers' Hall is No. 9, Little Trinity
Lane. Cunningham says that the company were
the forerunners of the Royal Academy. They
formed a licensed guild long prior to 1580, but
their charter dates from that year. They tried to
compel Gentileschi, Steenwych, and other court
painters, to pay fines for following their art, not
being free of the company. They failed, however,
to enforce them. But Chas. Cotton, an original
member of the Royal Academy, was master of the
company in 1784. Cornelius Jansen was a mem-
jer, and Inigo Jones and Van Dyck guests at
their feasts. A painter-stainer is said, in Webster's
Dictionary, to be a painter of coats of arms. I
think that stainer and grainer are almost synony-
mous. These men were house decorators, wood
stainers, marble imitators, herald painters ; at
masques and plays they were much in request;
and the serjeant painters were, no doubt, many of
;hem artists of considerable repute and skill.
Some years ago they held an exhibition of wood-
training, to which any working man in the trade
might send specimens, and they gave prizes — a
custom which they have not continued, I believe.
There were some very splendid specimens sent.
The discontinuance is to be deplored, for the imita-
tions of graining; in wood in houses, otherwise
sumptuously fitted up, are often simply contempt-
ible. C. A. W.
Mayfair.
BONDMEN IN ENGLAND (4th S. xi. xii. passim ;
5th S. i. 36.) — Mr. Selby, the most courteous and
obliging Superintendent of the Search Room at the
Record Office, has been good enough to point out
the following document to me. It is an Inquisition
taken at Leominster, in Herefordshire, on July 23,
1579, in pursuance (I suppose) of Queen's Eliza-
beth's grant of 1575 to Sir Henry Lee, of the fines
he could get out of any 300 of her bondmen for
the grants of their freedom that she empowered him
to make.
" Exchequer, Queen's Remembrancer, Ancient Mis-
cellanea. Special Commissions, 821 (37).
" An Inquisition indented & taken the xxiij. of July
1579, at Leomster in the countie of Hereford, before
Thomas Heron gentleman, comissioner, & by the othes of
John Creswell gentleman, John Morgan gentleman, John
wancklen, Richard Abathe, Humfrey vale, John avale de
Morten, *John Poull de Luston, John Arvall de Hope,
Roger Bailis, Ancell Cowarne, Hughe whitwall, wilh'am
appryse, wilh'am Stansbury senior, Richard davise, John
easwald *, free & lawfull men, tenauntes & en-
habytauntes dwellinge within her maiesties maner of
Leomster in the countie aforeseid, who sale vpon their
othes, that humfrey wancklen, , Thomas wancklen &
Richard wancklen, the Children of Thomas wancklen
decessed, ar bondmen in bloud regardant to the Quenes
m&iesties maner of Leomster in the countie of Hereford,
& ar very little worth. And also that Richard wynd, &
John wynd, the sonnes of hughe wind decessed, ar like-
wise bondmen, in bloud, & little worthe ; And also that
Thomas wancklen of Morton, sonne of Edmond wancklen
of Stokton, is likewise a bandman, and little worth ; And
also that wilh'am wynd & John wynd, sonnes of John
wynd, ar lickwise bandmen in bloud, & little worth;
And also that waiter wancklen, wilh'am wancklen,
Thomas wancklen, & f wancklen, were the Childeren
of wilh'am wancklen of luston decessed ; And that the
said waiter wancklen is worth in goodes six pounds,
thretten shillings, & fouer pence ; & wilh'am wancklen
is worth in goodes thre pounds ; & Thomas wancklen &
f wancklen worth little ; And that John wale, sonne
of hughe wale of luston, decessed, is also a bandman in
Blanks here in original between the names.
Blank in MS.
5th S. I. FEB. 7, 71]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
119
bloud to the maner afore-seid, and worth in goodes ten
poundes ,• And further the seid Jury saitb that hughe
wind, late of morton hamlet in the parishe of Eye, in the
Countie aforeseid, decessed about thretten yeres last past,
was the Queues m&iesiies bandman in bloud, regardant to
the maner aforeseid ; And that the seid hughe wind was *
1 befor his deathe ' seassed in his demeane as of fee of
& in the moitie or one half the maner of aston, alias
asheton, with certen landes tenemewtes & pastures ther-
unto belon[g]i[n]ge, set, lieinge & beinge in the parishe of
Eye in the Countie aforeseid ; And that one John avail
decessed, beinge a frexnan, was seased in his demeane as
of fee in thother moitie or one half of the seid maner of
aston, alias asheton : all w^ich seid maner, landej, &
tenementes & pasture, ar worth yerely, ouer & aboue all
charge & reprises, threttene poundes, six shillings, &
eight pence, & late were parcell of the landes & pos-
sessions of Sir George blount knight, & nowe or late were
in the tenures or occupacions of thes persons followinge,
viz: of hughe wynd, sonne & heier of the fore seid hughe
wynd, who was lately manumissed [&] (as in his own right)
is seassed in his demeane as of fee in parte of the seid
maner to the yerely value of four poundes; And one
wilh'am avale is also lickwise seassed in his demeane
as of fee of & in one other parcel of the seid maner
to the yerely value of four poundej; And the
residowe of the seid whole maner is in the seuerall
tenures & occupac?'ons of John avaston, willtam galley,
John freman, .Richard wynd, George Lugarne, wilh'am
Caldwell, Thomas perkins, John byrd, Koger Bayly,
Ancell Cowarne, Richard perks, John Bayly of Morton,
& Thomas avail of Stokton,* "humfrey vale, John Downes,
& hughe whitwall ; '2 And further the seid Jury knoweth
not. In witnes wherof, to thes presenter they haue set
to their handes & scales the daie & yere aboue written."
F. J. FuRNIVALL.
" NOR" FOR "THAN" (4th S. xii. 388, 502 ; 5*h
S. i. 12, 53.)— F. S. (p. 53) says that I supposed
" nor " for " than " to be obsolete. But I think
the whole context of what I said (4th S. xii. 388)
shows that what I meant was, obsolete among the
best educated class. LYTTELTON.
JHttctRxntotuf.
NOTES ON BOOKS, ETC.
History of Two Queens: I. Catharine of Aragon:
. II. Anne Boleyn. By William Hepworth Dixon.
Vols. III. and IV. (Hurst & Blackett.)
MR. DIXON has completed, in the above volumes, the two
stories which he has narrated with so much grace and
vigour. Better still, he has cast the light of truth upon
incidents that have not been seen under that light before ;
and if some reputations suffer, others are rehabilitated.
Full of romantic and dramatic sentiment as the story of
Catharine is, we think that the more absorbing interest
is concentrated in the story of Anne Boleyn. Never has
it been told so fully, so fairly, or so attractively. Anne
has had cruel and unscrupulous enemies. She has them
still, among persons whose so-called religious prejudices
are as blindly fierce as were the passions of those who,
for their miserable worldly profit, pursued this innocent
woman to death. Tragedy will have its victim and its
martyr on the stage. It often combines both in one
individual on the scaffold. This it did in the person of
* The words between 1—1, and between 2—2, are inter-
lined in a different hand.
the guiltless Anne. No human being, exposed to such
trial and suffering as she was, met cruel fate with more
noble and unobtrusive dignity. As much may be said
of the gallant gentlemen who might have saved their
lives by accusing Anne of treason and infidelity, but who
preferred terrible death to living at the cost of a lie. The
whole story of Anne vindicates her honour. In the
reading of it, tears will flow in many sympathetic eyes ;
and no one will close the volume without a feeling of
gratitude to the author, the last and most gallant of the
champions of poor Anne Boleyn.
Dulce Domum: Essays on Home Life. By Frederick
Perry, M.A., Vicar of S. Saviour's, Fitzroy Square.
(Strahan & Co.)
" DULCE DOMUM" touches on an astonishing number of
themes, both original and cited. Engrossing the reader, it
exhausts not a few of the duties and affections of social
life. Aristotelian tnodo operandi, Mr. Perry published
first his Fragments of Christian Ethics, and now, to com-
plete a well-ordered commonwealth, brings out his
Politics, or Dulce Domum, a series of essays on the inte-
gral members of a home. He would lead men to be good
citizens by making the study of morals a necessary
postulate of the rationale he constructs. He is attractive
as a psychologist and physiologist. Each sequent shows
his anthropology to be yvwQi aiavrbv. Bold is the
citizen who will instruct his confreres how and when
they ought to marry ; how a husband and wife ought
mutually to behave ; how parents, children, masters,
servants, should act in their respective relationships ; but
the Vicar of S. Saviour's makes the venture, and succeeds
in the attempt. His ideas must coalesce with those of
the sensible, being admonitory of the extreme of any
virtue On the side of excess or defect, and requiring the
adjustment of the mean to be left to self -judgment and
circumstances.
The Quarterly Review. No. 271. (Murray.)
THOSE persons who have taken an interest in the much-
talked-of book, Lettres a une Inconnue, by the late
Prosper Merimee, will probably turn first to the article
on this subject in the January number of the Quarterly.
They will see that a clever man is not exempt from saying
very foolish things. Two other personal articles add to
the attractions of the number, one on Mrs. Somerville,
the other on John Stuart Mill. That venerable lady was,
in her earlier years, preached against by name, in York
Cathedral. She was lifting the minds of men towards
Heaven by scientific expositions, which, at the time,
were considered unlawful. A notice on Mr. Ralston's
pleasant books on Russian songs and folk-lore is almost
as pleasant as the books themselves. What may be called
the all-absorbing article of this number is " Sacerdotalism,
Ancient and Modern." This will be read and re-read.
The writer is said to be the Rev. Mr. Capes.
The Paradise of Birds. An Old Extravaganza in a
Modern Dress. By William John Courthope. Second
Edition. (Blackwood & Sons.)
FROM the pen of the author of Ludilria Lunce has
emanated some excellent intellectual recreation. From
beneath the poem there appears to peep some little pet
doctrine, which, like the roc bird out of his shell in
limbo, only wants encouragement to protrude still further.
The author would like to say, perhaps, more than he has
said. The allusions to men, acts, customs of modern
date, are happily and cleverly put. The mode of per-
suasion by which a human entrance is obtained into
Paradise, the evasive, yet thoroughly legal resort by
which an exit is also effected, and the final union and
sympathy between man and birds, are treated in a
masterly style. If only for a revival of one's ornitho-
logical reading, these verses are worth a perusal.
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5th S. I. FEB. 7, '74.
Columbus : A Historical Play, in Five Acts. By Edward
Rose. (Effingham Wilson.)
IN the year 1792, Mr. Morton brought out, at Covent
Garden, a play under this title, which was acted at
intervals till 1823. It took Columbus to Peru, and there
were as many low comedy parts in it as there were
heroic. The old drama is forgotten, and Mr. Rose's
Columbus is fresh and original, and has dramatic qualities
in it that fit it for the stage. The piece opens at Santa
Fe, whence it passes to the deck of Columbus' s ship, and
thence to Barcelona, Cadiz, and finally to Segovia, where
Beatrix dies in the hero's arms ; and Columbus is the
other victim which a tragic poem demands. His last
words are, " Into thy hands, Lord, I commend my
spirit." Irving's Life of Columbus has furnished the
principal incidents.
The New Quarterly Magazine. (Ward & Co.)
THE second number of this quarterly magazine is even
better than the first, in which there was a capital bio-
graphy of, and criticism on, Rabelais. There is a similar
article in the second number on Sully, and another on
Fanny Burney. Each number contains a novel, entire,
with articles on travels, art and science. The novels are
very good, and the whole publication is well got up and
well edited.
ST. ANTHOLIN'S CHURCH, LONDON. — This church, built
by Sir Christopher Wren, will shortly be pulled down ;
the benefice having been united with that of St. Mary,
Aldermanbury, close by. The fittings of the interior,
except some (as the font and communion table) which
are reserved for their proper uses, will first be sold on the
spot. The sale will take place almost immediately ; and
amongst the things to be sold will be several panels of
rich open work in oak, carved into leaves and flowers ;
and a tall standard of iron, handsomely foliated and
painted blue and gold, whereon the sword and mace of
the City were wont to rest when the Lord Mayor
attended service at St. Antholin's. Amongst the readers
of " N. & Q." there may be some whose regard for the
ancient uses of dedicated things may induce them to
rescue these memorials from the harpies of Wardour
Street. The interior lines of this church are a master-
piece of apt arrangement. The outline of the site and of
the walls is irregular and shapeless; yet within, by
means of octagon forms which lead the eye onward and
upward to oval and to circular forms, Sir Christopher
has produced a quite remarkable effect of symmetry and
Btateliness. A. J. M.
WE have been favoured by the following note from
MR. THOMS : — " You and many of your readers will
rejoice when I tell you that our French cousin, L'lnter-
mediaire des Chercheurs et Curieux, the Notes and Queries
Franqais, which was necessarily suspended in August,
1870, by the unhappy war between France and Germany,
has re-appeared under the management of its original
editor, M. Carle de Rash. To the courtesy of that
gentleman, I presume, I am indebted for the pleasant
surprise which the receipt of the first two numbers for
this year (its seventh) afforded me on Tuesday. Perhaps
you will kindly permit me, through your columns, to
return my thanks to that gentleman for his kind atten-
tion, to wish him and L' 'Intermediate a long and
prosperous career, and to communicate the good news to
my brother contributors.
A. S. writes : — " There is an inaccuracy in MR. MANT'S
statement, 4th S. xii. 481. Reference to, a peerage old
enough to contain the Chatham pedigree will show that
Governor Pitt was the great-grandfather, in the direct
male line, of the first Lord Camelford. I think it was
the second of the name who was killed in the duel, and
the paternal grandfather of William, first Earl of
Chatham. Confirmation of this statement can be found
in Macaulay's Essay on, William Pitt."
" LORD WHARTON'S CHARITY." — The Secretary is "S.
H. Evans, Esq., 13, Austin Friars, London, E.G.," to
whom applications must be made by the clergyman of
the parish requiring Bibles and Prayer-Books lor the use
of school children. S. N.
Ryde.
fLQlitt& io C0r«£p0ntettW.
ENQUIRER. — Sir William Congreve, Bart., the inventor
of the famous rocket, died in 1828. He left two sons, of
the ages of two years and one year, — William Augustus and
William Frederick. " Neither of these gentlemen," says
the last edition of Debrett, " has been heard of for a con-
siderable period, and their friends fear they are both
dead. If so, the title is extinct."
T. J. BENNETT. — Ackermann speaks of " Corpus Christ!
or Bene't College." C.C.C. was founded in 1352 by two
guilds in Cambridge, termed " Gilda Corporis Christi "
and " Gilda Beatae Mariaj Virginis." The former guild
was established in St. Benedict's parish.
BLAIRMORE (Newcastle-on-Tyne). — Consult Prof. West-
cott's The Bible in the Church, A General View of the
History of the English Bible, A General Survey of the
History of the Canon of the New Testament.
THOS. BIRD (Romford). — Consult A Rudimentary
Treatise on Clocks and Watches and Bells. Fifth
Edition, with a new Appendix. By E. B. Denison.
H. NELSON (Downpatrick). — Have you rendered the
Russian name correctly1? The lady's letter had better be
forwarded.
F. L. (Leaside). — Your queries can be answered by
consulting the catalogues in the library of the British
Museum.
T. STRATTON. — Rome was pronounced " Room " on the
English stage as late as the days of the Kembles.
J. H. JAMES (Ohio) and F. S. H. (Philadelphia).— The
date has been corrected. See 4th S. xii. 460.
L. L. — "That is not wit which consists not with
wisdom." See South, Hi., 33.
J. A. F. — "Ultra-centenarianism" has been forwarded
to MR. THOMS.
N. S. (Oxford). — The derivation of both words is
doubtful.
J. 0. P.— Apply to F. W. Harmer, George Street,
Stroud.
INDOCTUS. — " Betwixt you and me," of course.
Miss J. Y.'s offer is declined, with thanks.
R. H. F. — A cotta is a short surplice.
J. B. (Melbourne).— See 4th S. xii. 213.
H. H. G. (St. Dunstan's).— Col. in type.
" Sunday Newspapers," next week.
NOTICE.
Editorial Communications should be addressed to " The
Editor " — Advertisements and Business Letters to " The
Publisher "—at the Ofiice, 20, Wellington Street, Strand,
London, W.C.
We beg leave to state that we decline to return com-
munications which, for any reason, we do not print ; and
to this rule we can make no exception.
To all communications should be affixed the name and
address of the sender, not necessarily for publication, but
as a guarantee of good faith.
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
121
LONDON, SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 14, 1874.
CONTENTS. — N° 7.
NOTES:— The late Mr. Herman Merivale— Sunday Newspapers,
121— The Works of Thomas Puller : the " House of Mourn
ing," 123— Shakspeariana, 124 — St. Michael's, Queenhithe
London — Codrington Baronetcy— Revenging Flodden, 125 —
French Noblemen, about 1700— Anachronism— Short-hand
Writing Extraordinary — Burial in an Orchard— Transmigra-
tion, 126.
QUERIES :— Authors Wanted— Crystal Nuptials in Russia—
" The Ten Ambassadors " — Sir Thomas Strangeways, 127 —
The Sackbut — Catherine Pear — Oil Painting on Copper Plate
— Keble's "Christian Year" — "A Biographical Peerage of
the Empire of Great Britain," 1808— Jay : Osborne — Death's
Head and Cross-Bones— Grinling Gibbons, 128 — Burial of a
Gipsy in a Church— Coin or Token — The Zampognari of
Naples— Colepepper and Davenant— Penn Pedigree— Thomas
Muggett, M.D.— " Warlock "—Mr. Hugh Skeys— Godwit —
Manuel of Shots, 129 — Lodowick Loid — Dr. Johnson —
Heraldic— Curious Literature, 130.
REPLIES :— On the Elective and DeposingPower of Parliament,
130— Field Lore : Carr, &c., 131— A Stubborn Fact, 132—
Hart Hall, Hertford College, Oxford — Cervantes and Shak-
speare, 133 — A Professor of Hebrew, temp. Elizabeth —
"Anthem": " Anthymn," 134 — Sweden — "Arcandam" —
Kentish Epitaphs — King of Arms — Note of the late Mr.
Charles Kirkpatrick Sharpe to "Lord of the Isles" — The
Poet Cowper : " Trooper "— S versus Z— Date of a Calendar,
135 — Sir Thomas Herbert, of Tin tern, Bart. —Sir John
Burley, K.G.— Sir David Lindsay— The Barbor Jewel— The
Waterloo and Peninsular Medals — Irish Provincialisms, 136
— Register Books Stamped — " Hie et Alubris " — " Calling
out loudly for the Earth" — Crowing Hens — The Prodigal
Son— The Chartularies of the Abbeys of Vale Royal Norton,
Birkenhead, and Combermere— Copying Printed Matter, 137
— Browning's "Lost Leader"— Seizing Dead Bodies for Debt
— Henry Hallywell — Birds of HI Omen — Sinologue — The
Cattle and the Weather— Rev. E. Gee, 138.
Notes on Books, &c.
THE LATE MR. HERMAN MERIVALE.
Our readers must have seen with deep regret the
announcement of the death of MR. MERIVALE on
Sunday last ; but few of them probably are aware,
that though, we believe, his name rarely or never
appeared in our columns, MR. MERIVALE was a
frequent and valuable contributor. Like the late Sir
George Cornewall Lewis, and many other eminent
men, MR. MERIVALE found rest from his laboriou;
official duties in the indulgence of his love oi
letters ; and great as were his merits as a public
officer, and few have done the State better service,
he will probably be best remembered by his pub-
lished works. The first of these, his Lectures on
the Colonies and Colonization, led to his appoint-
ment as Under-Secretary for the Colonies, from
which he was eventually promoted to the Under-
Secretaryship of State for India. His Life of Sir
Philip Francis, from the materials amassed by the
late Mr. Parkes, and his continuation of Sir Her-
bert Edwardes's Life of Sir Henry Lawrence? are
valuable contributions to our biographical literature
His Historic Studies contains a series of essays on
many curious points of history, and illustrates that
spirit of well-considered scepticism which mani-
fested itself more clearly in the doubts which he
threw out as to the genuineness of the Paston
betters. But that that arose solely from his love
of truth was beyond dispute ; for probably nobody
was better pleased, when, by the discoveries and
investigations which followed, the authenticity of
;hat remarkable correspondence was established
beyond all doubt. The loss of MR. MERIVALE
will be deeply felt by all whose good fortune it was
to be numbered among his friends.
SUNDAY NEWSPAPERS.
Recently, one of the metropolitan magistrates,
in adjudicating upon a case of Sunday trading, in
which the defendant was a newsvendor, stated that
the case presented a difficulty, as Sunday papers
were not in existence when the Act was passed for
the better observance of the Lord's Day. It may
therefore be of interest to sketch the origin and
early history of these papers.
The following paragraph appears in Tirnperley's
Encyclopedia of Literary and Typographical
Anecdote: —
" 1778. Johnson's Sunday Monitor. This was the first
newspaper published on the Sabbath in Great Britain.
It appeared in London."
Timperley's statement is incorrect, as the paper
did not appear till 1780. He evidently had not
seen it, as he does not give its correct designation.
The original Sunday paper was the British
Gazette and Sunday Monitor, No. 1 of which is
dated March 26, 1780. It was projected by a
printer named Johnson, and its success called
several rivals into existence. The proprietor sub-
sequently added his name to the title, and it was
known as E. Johnson's British Gazette and Sunday
Monitor, under which designation it lasted till
1803. About this time it changed hands, and the
new proprietor dropped its first title, and it appeared
as the Sunday Monitor. It had then fallen so low
as to become the organ of Joanna Southcott, for
the sake of the extra sale which followed the pub-
lication of the manifestoes of that religious fanatic.
The death of this notorious impostor is thus recorded
in the issue of January 1, 1815 : —
"DEATH OP MRS. SOUTHCOTT. — TUESDAY AFTERNOON.
" To Mr. Stokes.
" Sir — Agreeably to your request, I send a messenger
to acquaint you that Joanna Southcott died this morning,
precisely at four o'clock. The believers in her mission,
supposing that the vital functions are only suspended for
a few days, will not permit me to open the body until
some symptom appears which may destroy all hopes of
resuscitation. — I am, Sir,
" Your obedient servant,
"RICHARD REECE.
" Piccadilly, Dec. 27, 1814.
" (CIRCULAR.)
" Sir — As you desired to be present at Mrs. Southcott's
accouchement, had it taken place, as was then expected,
the friends consider it as their duty to inform you, and
all the medical gentlemen who had that intention, that to
all appearance she died this morning, exactly as the clock
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struck four. Care is taken to preserve warmth in the
body as she directed, and it is the wish of her friends
that you will see her in her present state.
"ANN UNDERWOOD.
" 38", Manchester Street, Tuesday, Dec. 27, 1814.
" To Dr. E. Reece.
"As Mrs. Southcott's believers are of opinion she has
only gone into a trance (which she predicted twenty
years ago), and that she will be delivered of Shiloh in
four days, we shall on Sunday next be able to com-
municate further particulars."
In the paper of June 23, 1815, it describes itself,
" The first Sunday newspaper ever established in
the kingdom." It experienced all the vicissitudes
which invariably overtake the Sunday paper, and
died in 1829, after an existence of fifty years.
The London Recorder, or Sunday Gazette was
the first to enter into competition with Johnson's
print. The copy of August 7, 1791, contains a
self-laudatory notice, in which it is asserted that
" The superiority of this print commenced in 1779,"
but, as this paper is " No. 575," it could not have
appeared before August, 1780. It lasted till 1808,
a-nd was then merged in its rival, the Sunday
Monitor.
The next in chronological order was Ayre's
Sunday London Gazette, and Weekly Monitor,
started on the 27th April, 1783. The office of the
paper was at 5, Brydges Street, Covent Garden,
opposite Drury Lane Theatre. The editor an-
nounced in the first number, that Ins print would
be something more than a compilation of articles
from the Public Ledger and the other daily papers,
the insinuation evidently being directed against
Johnson's print. Ayre's paper lasted till 1795.
A paper was started by J. Almon, of 182. Fleet
Street, called the Sunday Chronicle. The earliest
copy I have seen is dated "March 30, 1788," and
it lasted till the close of 1790. It was unnumbered,
so that it is difficult to fix the date of its birth.
The Reviciv and Sunday Advertiser was first
published on June 22, 1789, and it lasted till 1796.
The Observer came out for the first time on
Sunday, December 4th, 1791, and it has appeared
uninterruptedly to the present day. It has entered
upon the eighty-third year of its career, and is one
of the rare instances of a Sunday paper becoming
established.
The Sunday Reformer and Universal Register
Avas originated on the 14th April, 1793. In No. 38
(December 29, 1793) there is a portrait of Dr.
Louth, Bishop of London, which appears under the
heading of " Evangelical Biography." This paper
had an independent existence till 1796, after
which date it was amalgamated with the London
Recorder.
The first number of Bell's Weekly Messenger
appeared on May 1st, 1796, and it speedily became
the leading Sunday paper. On April 10th. 1814,
23,100 copies, at 8d. each, were sold ; this number
containing particulars of the downfall of Bonaparte
and the capitulation of Paris. The day of pub-
lication has of late years been changed to Monday.
The Weekly Dispatch commenced its career
on Sunday, Sept. 13, -1801, and it has been con-
tinued since without intermission.
The British Neptune, or Naval, Military, and
Fashionable Sunday Advertiser was commenced on
January 2, 1803, and it had an existence of twenty
years.
The Englishman, or Sunday Express made its
original appearance on the 5th June, 1803. In the
32nd number (Jan. 8, 1804) the editor states that
its success " has exceeded our most sanguine anti-
cipations," the sale of the previous week having
amounted to 1,245 copies. This paper lasted till
1827.
The Ncirs was commenced on Sunday, May 5th,
1805, and it lasted till 1836. In the 207th number
(April 23, 1809) the editor alludes to a scheme
in agitation " to impede the free circulation of
newspapers on a Sunday," and those who have been
unable to purchase the paper owing to the " officious
zeal of a servile tool of a disgraced ministry," are
requested to forward their addresses to the office
(28, Brydges Street, Covent Garden), so that the
paper may be regularly delivered on Sunday
morning at their residences.
The- Independent Whig began its career on
Sunday, Jan. 5, 1806, and did not succumb till
1820.
The Examiner (still in existence) first appeared
on January 3rd, 1808, and was continued for many
years as a Sunday paper, but the day of publication
was subsequently changed to Saturday.
The Champion, another Sunday paper, was com-
menced in January, 1813, and lasted till 1822.
The first number of the John Bull appeared on
Sunday, Dec. 17, 1820. It was originally edited
by Theodore Hook, of convivial notoriety, and it
was a staunch supporter of " our glorious Consti-
tution in Church and State." The agitation in
favour of Roman Catholic Emancipation seems to
have driven the editor frantic, and excited appeals
were made weekly on behalf of "our most holy
religion" ; but the inconsistency of publishing a
religious newspaper on the Sabbath does not appear
to have occurred to the proprietors. The day of
publication was ultimately changed to Saturday.
The Sunday Times was commenced in 1822, and
has appeared regularly to this day.
Bell's Life in London came into existence on
Sunday, Feb. 7, 1822, and it still appears. In the
315th number (March 9, 1828), the editor notices the
" contemptible effort of our contemporaries to excite
prejudice against this journal," and gives under the
heading of " More Comfort for the Conspirators,"
the number of papers disposed of during the
previous quarter. From this we ascertain that on
March 2nd, 1828, 25,289 copies were sold.
Pierce Egan's Life in London made its first
5th S. I. FKB. 14, 74.]
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appearance on Sunday, Feb. 1, 1824, and it lasted
till 1827.
Old England and Constitution, another Sunday
paper, was started on Nov. 14, 1824, and its career
terminated in 1825.
In 1833, the Eye, or Sunday Monitor appeared,
but it lasted a few weeks only.
The foregoing list, although incomplete, gives
the titles of the principal Sunday newspapers
which appeared within the period comprised by
the dates 1780—1830. WILLIAM RAYNER.
Harrington Street, Hampstead Road.
THE WORKS OF THOMAS FULLER : THE
"HOUSE OF MOURNING."
With a view to complete my list of Fuller's
works, I shall be glad to hear of existing copies of
the following editions, &c., Avhich I have not been
able to meet with in the' libraries : —
Holy State, 16i3 ; Holi/ War, 1650 (Puttick's Cat.,
Feb., 1873), 1652 (Millar's Cat., Jan., 1872) ; Joseph's
Parti- Coloured Coat, 1648 (Brewer); Andronicus, 1649
("the third edition," Lowndes) ; Cause and Cure of a
Wounded Conscience, 1810 (Brewer) ; Pisgah-Sight, 1652
(Lowndes) ; an edition of The Thoughts, " reprinted
recently by Mr. Hinton, of Oxford " (Watt) ; Myriel's
Daily Devotions (Biography of Colet), 1635 (Lowndes
names this edition as containing Fuller's notice of Colet),
1641 (Russell names this) ; The Valley of Vision, by
Dr. Holdsworth (so said), 1661 (mentioned by a corre-
spondent of " N. & Q.," 1st S. ii. 44) ; Pulpit Sparks, by
Dr. Reeve, 1659 (Russell) ; Sparke's QvffutariOnov vel
Scintilla, Altaris, date of fourth edition (the third is dated
1663, and the fifth 1673).
Allow me to add the following note about that
interesting old volume of funeral sermons, entitled
QPTJVOIKOS' The House of Mourning, with which
Fuller is connected. Mr. Russell (Memorials of
Fuller, pp. 81 and 332) attributes to Fuller cer-
tain sermons in the first, or 1640 * edition of this
work. But none of Fuller's Sermons were in this
particular edition, the preachers of the forty-seven
discourses being described on the title-page as
four Doctors in Divinity, viz., " Daniel Featly,
Martin Day, Richard Sibbs, Thomas Taylor,"
" and other reverend divines." At the date of this
edition Fuller had scarcely begun to publish
sermons ; yet the twenty-sixth in the collection
(p. 499), entitled "Saint Paul's Trumpet," is
attributed to him (Memorials, pp. 81-2). — This
edition is often put in catalogues under the name
of Fuller as one of the authors. — Fuller's con-
tributions first appeared in the second, or the
1660 edition (pp. xii., 610), which was published
by his old " stationer," John Williams, who, to
increase the sale, added on the title-page, at the
end of the names, " Thomas Fuller," as well as
Dr. John Preston, and Dr. Richard Houldsworth.
* Published by Philip Neville at the signe of the
Gunne in Ivie Lane (pp. 916, xvi.). Many of the
sermons are separately dated 1639.
In this edition there were six additional sermons,
all preached between 1650 and 1660, four of which
(viz., " Death's Prerogative," " The Patriarchal
Funeral," "The True Accountant," and "The
Righteous Man's Service to his Generation"*)
" may perhaps," says Mr. Russell, " be ascribed to
Fuller." The first and third of these discourses
are certainly not Fuller's, internal evidence being
against such paternity. The second discourse,
" The Patriarchal Funeral," is by Dr. John Pearson
(afterwards the Bishop of Chester), it having been
preached in 1658 before the Right Honourable
George, Lord Berkeley, upon the death of that
nobleman's father. (This sermon is printed in the
Minor Theological Works of Dr. John Pearson,
vol. ii. 112-135, edited by Churton, who does not,
however, give the title-page of the original discourse,
which was published separately by John Williams,
in 4to., in 1658. See 1359 E., British Museum.)
Only the last of the above list of four sermons is
really Fuller's. His also is " The Just Man's
Funeral," which immediately precedes "The
Righteous Man's Service." Fuller's contributions
thus occur together, being the fifty-first and the
fifty-second of the series. One of them, and per-
haps the other, had been already published by
John Williams (in 1649 and 1657 respectively),
whose property, it is presumed, they were.
The fifty-third, or last sermon, is by a different
author, and is not recognizable as Fuller's. — The
third, or 1672 edition, said to be " newly corrected
and amended, with several additional sermons,"
contained only three more sermons, separately
paged (pp. 1 — 48), the first of which is entitled
" Nature's Good-Night," first printed in 1656,
being by " Fra. Moore, Curate of Soules at High-
week"; the second is by Edmund Barker, Rector
of Buriton, Hants, at the funeral of the Dowager
Lady Elizabeth Capell ; and the third (query by
Josias Alsop) entitled " Days Appointed to Wait
for a Change," is the funeral sermon upon Dean
Hardy, who preached Dr. Fuller's funeral sermon
in 1661, and who died 1670. The additional
names upon the title-page of this edition are
Dr. John Pearson, Dr. Christ. Shute, Dr. Edmund
Barker, and Dr. Josias Alsop ; Fuller's name, now
given with his doctorate degree, occurring the last
but two upon the list. This edition was also
issued by John Williams (Pp. 610, 48, xii.). It is
difficult, but not hopeless, to apportion the sermons
in this valuable old book to the respective con-
tributors. A list of the fifty-three sermons of the
second edition, but not of the preachers or of those
to whose memory the sermons were preached, will
be found in Darling's Cyclo. Bib., col. 1557.
JOHN EGLINGTON BAILEY.
Stretford, Manchester.
* In Russell's Memorials (p. 81), this tide is printed
as though it formed two sermons.
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SHAKSPEARIANA.
SHAKSPEARIAN TRADITIONS RECORDED BY
DRYDEN. — I do not remember to have seen in any
of the recent lives of Shakspeare any notice of the
Shakspearian traditions mentioned by Dryden in
his Defence of the Epilogue to the Second Part of
the Conquest of Granada, 1672, although, of course,
they were well known to the old editors, and one
of them at least was discussed by Johnson and
Malone. I give them in Dryden's own words : —
" Shakspeare showed the best of his skill in his Mer-
cutio, and he said himself that he was forced to kill him
in the third act, to prevent being killed by him. But for
my part, I cannot find he was so dangerous a person. I
see nothing in him but what was so exceeding harmless
that he might have lived to the end of the play, and died
in his bed without oifence to any man."
The other tradition seems to lend some counte-
nance to Mr. Hallam's position, that some portions
of Shakspeare's writings were as obscure to his
contemporaries as to ourselves: —
" In reading some bombast speeches of Macbeth, which
are not to be understood, he (Ben Jonson) used to say
that it was horrour ; and I am much afraid that this is
so."
I am not sure that I quite understand this
passage. Is horror here to be taken in the phy-
sical sense, as used by Bacon, and now vulgarized
into " the horrors"?
In Dryden's other Prefaces and Defences there
are several other interesting items of gossip about
Jonson, as that he always submitted his plays to
Beaumont before performance ; that Morose, in the
Silent Woman, was sketched from life, &c.
In order to estimate the value of these traditions,
it is necessary to bear in mind that Dryden in his
younger days must have lived very much in the
society of men who had probably known Shak-
speare, and had certainly witnessed the performance
of his dramas during his own lifetime. In 1672
there was still left the remnant of a school who
depreciated the new drama, of which Dryden was
the apostle, and swore by the departed glories of
the Blackfriars and the Globe. In the same De-
fence, Dryden affirms that " the discourse and
raillery of our new comedies excell what has been
written by them " [the Elizabethans]. And this,
he says, " will be denied by none but some few old
fellows who value themselves on their acquaintance
with the Blackfriars, who, because they saw their
plays, would pretend a right to judge ours. The
memory of these grave gentlemen is their only plea
for being wits."
These old habitues of the Blackfriars must have
almost exactly corresponded, in relative age and
date, to those pleasant old gentlemen we sometimes
meet with in society — now, alas ! every year more
rarely — who ignore everything that has been done
upon the boards since the great Kean and Byron
time of Drury Lane. C. ELLIOT BROWNE.
HAD BE : HAD TO. —
" Whether hadst thou rather be a Faulconbridge ? "
K. John, i. 1, 134.
This usage of had with the infinitive is as old as
Chaucer, and thus we have in the ClerJces Tale: —
" Al had hir lever kan hadde a knave-childe."
In Percy's Reliques, i. 71, 30, it is carried still
further, thus : —
" Where they had gladdest to le.''
But though it is sanctioned by the old writers, and
prevails generally at the present day, I conceive it
is incorrect. Surely it arose in this way : "I would
rather be " was abbreviated into " I 'd rather be" ;
then " I 'd " was erroneously expanded into " I
had." Is this so, or can the form " I had rather
be " be defended in any way 1
Again, in the Times of Nov. 4, I read, " he had
continually to ask his father," and " the fact has
to be explained," both forms, indeed, being common
enough. I suppose there is some ellipse ; in the
first case, perhaps, of the words "an obligation
upon him," so that at full length the sentence will
run, " he had the obligation upon him to ask his
father " ; in the second I do not exactly see what
words should be supplied. Perhaps a reader of
" N. & Q." will throw some light upon this.
F. J. V.
" CRACK."—
" 'Tis a noble child. — A crack, madam."
Coriolanus, i. 3.
Of this word Dyce, in his Glossary, says,
" Crack : a boy, usually an arch, lively boy." I
conceive that " crack " is here, and in the other
passages cited in the Dictionaries under that word,
used for " crackrope " or " crackhemp," which latter
words are frequently used by the Elizabethan dra-
matists as terms of reproach. If so, the word
" crack " in the passage cited from Coriolanus and
elsewhere is used playfully. What makes me
think that it is an abbreviation of " crackrope " is
that in Massinger's Unnatural Combat, i. 1, ad
init., the usher says of the page —
" Here's a crack; I think they suck this knowledge in
their milk."
And ii. 2, ad fin., he says to him, " Peace, crack-
rope." I may remark that it is not uncommon ia
compound words to find the last part of the com-
pound dropped, " quack " for " quacksalver," and
" mole " for " mouldwarp," are in daily use ; so
also " ensign " for " ensign-bearer," a word used by
Sir Philip Sidney. Again, we find " standard" for
" standard-bearer " in the old ballads.* Perhaps,
also, the word " wag," a " pert person " (Latham),
the derivation of which he gives up in despair, is
an abbreviation of " wag-tail," which latter word
is frequently used as a term of reproach by the
* To these instances we may add " shepe " for " shep-
herd " at the commencement of Piers Plowman's Vision,
if we adopt the interpretation of ME. SKEAT and DR.
MORRIS ("N. & Q.," 4"' S. xi. 500; xii. 11, 97, 309).
5" S. I. FEB. 14, 74.]
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125
old dramatists, this metaphor being taken from
the bird of that name ; thus the Earl of Kent, in
King Lear, ii; 2, ad fin., says to the steward: —
" Spare my grey beard, you wagtail."
It may appear of little importance what the
exact meaning and derivation of the word "crack"
may be, but I think if this principle, that the
second part of a compound word is frequently lost
in process of time, be once admitted, it may serve
to explain other words which need explanation.
F. J. V.
P.S. — I add three more passages in which the
word " crack " occurs : —
" I saw him break Scogan's bead at tbe court-gate,
when he was a crack, not thus high."— K. Henry IV.,
Part II., iii. 2.
"Since we are turned craiks, let's study to be like
cracks, act freely, carelessly, and capriciously." — Ben
Jonsoris " Cynthia's Revels."
'• I have invented projects for raising millions without
burthening the subject, but cannot get parliament to
listen to me, who look upon me as a crack and a pro-
jector."— A ddison.
In this last passage I conceive " crack " stands
for " crack-brain."
SHAKSPEARE ANTICIPATED. —
" Many times there cometh less hurt of a thief than of
a railing tongue : for the one taketh away a man's good
name, the other taketh but his riches, which is of much
less value and estimation than is his good name." — Homily
against Contention and Brawling. First Book put forth
by Edward VI.
Shakspeare was no plagiarist in this, for as these
Homilies were read in all the churches, he was
merely quoting an axiom he knew to be familiar to
every one. p. p.
CHAUCER AND SHAKSPEARE.— An article in the
Quarterly Review, which appeared some twelve
months ago, attempted to show (not, I venture to
think, with the complete success at which it aimed)
the indebtedness of Shakspeare to his great prede-
cessor Chaucer. As a slight contribution, how-
ever, in the way of evidence, I submit the following:
Constance, in the Man of Lawes Tale, says: —
" In Him trust I, and in his moder deere,
That is to me my sayl and eek my steere."
Romeo, in Romeo and Juliet, i. 4, says: —
' But He that hath the steerage of my course,
Direct my sail ! "
While on the subject of Chaucer, may I call
attention to his quaint argument, by anticipation,
against the " Permissive Bill " people ? It occurs
in the Troylus and Cryseyde:—
" In every thing, I wote, there lith mesure ;
For though a man forbede drunkennesse,
He not forbedes that every creature
Be drinkeles for alwey, as I gesse."
ALFRED AINGER.
ST. MICHAEL'S, QUEENHITHE, LONDON. — There-
is, I believe, a project on foot for pulling down this
old church and uniting the benefice with some
other. It may be well, therefore, to put it on
record that at the south-east corner of the church,,
at about six feet from the ground, there is built
into the wall a stone slab bearing the following
inscription, which I copied on the spot:—
THIS CHVRCH WAS BVBND IN YE DREADFVLL FIRE IN
YE YEARE 1666 AND WAS BEGAN (sic) TO BEE REBVILT
IN YE YEARS 1676
WILL : WOODROF ) CHVRCH
THOS. LYME ) WARDENS
I may add that, under the Union of Benefices' Act.,.
four City churches, — St. Benet, Gracechurch ; St.
Mary Somerset ; St. Mildred, Poultry ; and All
Hallows' Staining, — have already disappeared ; and
three more, — St. Martin Outwich ; St. Antholinr
Budge Eow ; and St. James, Duke's Place, — are-
about to disappear; and that such of their fittings
as are reserved from sale — bells, fonts, communion-
plate, organs — are or will be dispersed among
other churches of the metropolis; so that, hereafter,
there will be no trace of these things on the spot,
unless the churchwardens keep an inventory of"
the contents of the destroyed church, which, so-
far as I am aware, the Act does not compel or
direct them to do. A. J. M.
CODRINGTON BARONETCY. — I observed lately in
the daily papers that there are two claimants of
this title. It being perfectly clear that the second
baronet, who disinherited his son the third baronet,
could not, by any such act, alienate the descent of
the title from his present representative, Sir William,
Eaimond, I cannot imagine how there can be any
question about the representation. Some Court
ought to be erected to affirm or disallow the many
claims at present in existence in the Baronetage,,
and which in some instances really have no founda-
tion whatever. The Heralds' College, indirectly,,
has this power, as regards armorial insignia attached
to such titles, and ought to be supported in the
exercise of it. SP.
REVENGING FLODDEN. — In Lockhart's Life of
Sir Walter Scott, an anecdote is given, the sub-
stance of which is, that Sir Walter, when travelling
on the English side of the Border, had occasion, on
account of the illness of one of his domestics, to
send for a medical man. When he appeared, Scott
was astonished to recognize in him an old man
who had been a farrier at Ashestiel. After having
had some questions put to him regarding his treat-
ment, the ci-devant farrier replied, on Sir Walter
remonstrating, that he must have killed a few of
his patients : —
" Ou aye, may be sae, whiles they dee, and whiles no ;
but it 's the will o' Providence. Ony how, Your Honour,
it wad be lang before it maks up for Flodden."
From an old MS. in my possession, giving a
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history of the ancient family of Skene, in Aberdeen-
shire, the paper and writing of which prove it must
have been in existence one hundred years before
the great Sir Walter was born, I give an extract,
having modernized the spelling: —
"The two Doctors of Physic, viz. the one Professor of
the College of St. Andrews and the other the 1st Pro-
i'essor of Medicine at Aberdeen ; both of them were,
upon their coming from France, fallen short of money
at London, had only a quarteen by them, and resolving
to kill or cure wherever they come, were heard to say,
one to another; let us spend this and then revenge
PinMe and Flou-dun; and being arraigned before the
King, King James preferred the one to be his Ordinary,
the other his Extraordinary Doctor, and recommended
them to St. Andrews and Aberdeen, for the love he bore
to Sir John Skene, his brother."
A. A.
FRENCH NOBLEMEN, ABOUT 1700. — The Abbe
de Bellegrade, in his Reflexions sur ce qui j)6ut
plaire ou deplaire dans le Commerce du Monde,
which may have suggested to Chesterfield many
observations that are to be found in his Letters,
when speaking of the ignorance of some of the
young French noblemen, about 1700, mentions a
Monsr. de Mont-Bazon, who asked,
" Pourquoi Cesar, qui mourut au milieu du Senat de
Home, etoit mort sans confession, puisqu'il y a tant de
Pretres a Rome."
The fourth edition of the Abbe's book was pub-
lished in 1709, but I am^not aware when it was
written. In it we find several " sentiments " we
meet with elsewhere, for instance —
" Les plus grands hommes ne laissent pas d'avoir de
petites foiblesses."
" Je la vois tous les jours, et j'en suis aussi charme que
je 1'etois lorsque je la vis la premiere fois."
"L'on n'aime pas long-temps des gens dont 1'amour
ressemble a la haine." &c., &c.
E. N. JAMES.
Ashford, Kent.
ANACHRONISM. — Looking into Pope's Essay on
Criticism the other day, I was struck with a note
appended by Warton to the couplet,
" And while self-love each jealous writer rules,
Contending wits become the sport of fools."
"Mr. Harte," says Warton, "related to me that,
being with Mr. Pope when he received the news
of Swift's death, Harte said to him, he thought it
a fortunate circumstance for their friendship that
they had lived so distant from each other. Pope
resented the reflection, but yet, said Harte, I am
convinced it was true." Now this conversation
could not possibly have occurred under the circum-
stances described, for Swift outlived Pope more
than a year. The latter died May 30, 1744; Swift,
October 29, 1745. It is surprising that Mr. Elwin,
• so careful and so elaborate an annotator, should
have quoted Warton's statement without pointing
out its inaccuracy. C.
SHORT-HAND WRITING EXTRAORDINARY. — I
extract the following from Duncan Macdougal's
Improved System of Short-Hand, William Smith,
113, Fleet Street, London, 1840, fourth edition:—
" The book of the New Testament, with the time that
each book will occupy in writing. When the student of
short-hand is able to write within the limited time required "
— rather significant words these — " he is then able to
follow a speaker who speaks with propriety —
Books.
Matthew
Mark
Luke
John
Acts
Romans .
1 Corinthians
2 Corinthians
Galatians
Ephesians
Philippians .
Colossiaus
1 Thessalonians
2 Thessalonians
1 Timothy .
2 Timothy .
Titus .
Philemon
Hebrews
James .
1 Peter .
2 Peter .
1 John .
2 John .
3 John .
Jude
Revelation
Hours. Min.
36
18
54
54
45
30
27
57
SO
30
21
21
18
9
27
18
10
5
3
21
24
15
22
3
3
6
43
Total Time . 27 55."
When we consider what the title-page sets forth,
— " that simply to write the short-hand may be
acquired in one hour," — to say the least of it, it
appears a very wonderful performance for a pre-
Pitman age, and one which fully justifies my de-
scription. EOYLE ENTWISLE, F.K.H.S.
BURIAL IN AN ORCHARD. — The following entry
is in the Bourton-on-the- Water Eegister : — " 1704.
Wm. Wickser's wife, of Layborough, was buried
in Widow Green's orchard at Lower Slaughter (a
chapelry to Bourton) March 5." D. E.
TRANSMIGRATION. — The passages which I have
transcribed seem to present similar ideas to those
of Wordsworth in his celebrated lines on " The
Intimations of Immortality," &c.
The first I suppose to be from a poem by Dr.
Mackay, but I have never seen it in print or manu-
script. The second is from Tennyson : —
" Countless chords of heavenly music,
Struck ere earthly sounds began,
Vibrate, in immortal concord,
Thro' the answering soul of man :
Countless gleams of heavenly glory
Shine through spirits pent in clay,
On the old men at their labours,
On the children at their play.
We have gazed on heavenly secrets,
Sunned ourselves in heavenly glow,
5th S. I. FEB. 14, 74.]
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127
Seen the glory, heard the music,
We are wiser than we know."
" Moreover something is or seems,
That touches me with mystic gleams,
Like glimpses of forgotten dreams —
Of something felt, like something here ;
Of something done, I know not where ;
Such as no language may declare."
FREDERICK MANT.
Otttttaf.
[We must request correspondents desiring information
on family matters of only private interest, to affix their
names and addresses to their queries, in order that the
answers may be addressed to them direct.]
AUTHOR WANTED of the following lines. I
anything known about them as a literary curiosity 1
I am requested by a lady, now in her ninety -sixth
year, in whose memory this fragment has lingered
for more than fifty years, and from whose dictation
I have just written these lines, to seek this infor-
mation from some correspondent of " N. & Q."
What is the allusion to "Girguntum's walled
ground," and to " Leonard's Well" 1—
" It is the day of Martinmas, —
Cups of ale should freely pass ;
What though winter has begun
To push down the summer's sun ;
To our fires we can betake,
And enjoy the crackling brake ;
Never heeding winter's face
On the day of Martinmas.
We can tell what we have seen
When the hedge sweet briar was green,
Who did hide in the barley mow
Waiting for her Love, I trow ;
Whose apron longer strings did lack,
As the envious girls do clack ;
Such like things do come to pass
Ere the day of Martinmas.
* * * •*
Some do tKe city now frequent,
Where costly shows and merriment
Do wear the vapourish evening out
With interludes and revelling rout, —
Such as did pleasure England's Queen
When here her Royal Grace was seen ;
Yet will they not this day let pass,
This merry day of Martinmas.
Nell hath left her wool at home,
The Flanderkin hath stayed his loom ;
No beam doth swing, nor wheel go round,
Upon Girguntum's walled ground,
Where now no anchorite doth dwell,
To rise and pray at Leonard's Well ;
Martin hath kicked at Balaam's ass, —
So merry be Old Martinmas.
Now the daylight sports are done,
Round the market-cross they run, —
'Prentice lads and gallant blades
Dancing with their gamesome maids, —
Till the Beadle, stout and sour,
Shakes his bell and calls the hour ;
Then farewell lad and farewell lass
Till next merry Martinmas.
Martinmas shall come again,
Spite of wind and spite of rain,
W. D. B.
" Cloth of frieze be not too bold
Though thou 'rt wedded to cloth of gold."
What historical event gave rise to the verse
ending thus ? I cannot remember the exact word-
ing of the first two lines, but they are to the effect
that cloth of gold must not disdain to be wedded
to cloth of frieze. I should be very glad to know
where the verse is to be found. F. B.
CRYSTAL NUPTIALS IN KUSSIA. — I remember
to have read in a work — the title of which, when
found, was not " Guttled," and so has escaped me
— a curious account of a Kussian (royal ?) mar^
riage. One novel feature in its celebration was
the manufacture of the saluting guns used on the
occasion, which were of ice ; the apartment, and a
portion of its furniture, if I mistake not, were also
of ice ; the bridal bed was of the same material ;
the poles — and beyond these I will not venture to
pursue my voyage of inquiry — probably supported
some icicle fringes, and other Arctic drapery to
match. I would not risk the credit of my memory,
which, after an interval of some years, is likely to
prove defective ; but I think this much, at least,
will be found to be correctly stated. Will any of
your Anglo-Russian readers kindly help me to
verify this vague reference ? So far as my memory
serves me, my authority was, and I hope still is, a
single volume work on Riissian Manners and
Customs, &c., of which I regret to say I cannot
even guess the date. F. PHILLOTT.
[A full account of the singular wedding in question
will be found in Mrs. H. C. Romanoff's Historical
Narratives from the Russian (Rivingtons, 1871), pp.
40-46. The bridegroom was the unfortunate Prince
Michael A. Galitzin, whom the Empress Anna forced to
occupy the position of "Court Jester" after he had
joined the Church of Rome. The bride, whose name
was Bujeninova, was a Calmuck female-jester attached
to the suite of the Empress. The famous " House of
Ice " was 56 feet long, 17^ wide, and 21 high. Before it
were placed "six three-pounder cannons, and two eighty-
pounder mortars ; they were actually fired more than
once." Readers who wish for further information, and
do not object to its being conveyed in the Russian
tongue, will find an etcellent description of the marriage,
and detailed plans of the Ice House, in vol. vii. pp.
347-351 of that most valuable Russian periodical, the
Russkaj/a Starina, or Russian Past, so excellently
conducted by Mr. Semevsky, at St. Petersburg.]
"THE TEN AMBASSADORS." — Decker, in 1606,
alludes to " the comming of the ten ambassadors."
To what event does he refer 1 J. 0. P.
SIR THOMAS STRANGEWAYS. — Of what family
was he, and what were his arms ? He married
[•Catherine, Dowager Duchess of Norfolk, whose
first husband died 19th October, 1432. Did she not
also marry John, Viscount Beaumont, and Sir
128
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5th S. I. FEB. 14, '74.
• John Widville, and what was the order of the
marriages ? The doubt is between the second and
third. J. F. M.
THE SACKBUT. — In a picture by Paul Veronese,
at Paris, the " Cena di San Giorgio," Titian is play-
ing the double bass, Paul Veronese and Tintoret the
violoncello, another man a violin ; Bassano a flute,
and a Turkish slave the sackbut. In a translation
of the Lives of Haydn and Mozart, by L. A. C.
Bombet (Murray, 1818), p. 15, there is a note
saying that this ancient instrument would have
been lost to us for ever but for the ashes of Mount
Vesuvius. At Herculaneum one was dug up. The
lower part is of bronze, and the upper part and
mouthpiece is of solid gold. It is asserted that the
Kings of Naples presented it to his present Majesty,
i. e., George III. Is this the fact, and where is this
instrument] From this antique, the translator
goes on to say, the Italians fashioned their
tromboni ; but that in quality of tone nothing of
modern make has equalled the ancient one. I
should be glad to learn if this still holds good;
and if so, whether any attempt has of late years
been made to investigate the causes of this
superiority of tone. C. A. W.
Mayfair, W.
CATHERINE PEAR. — Suckling, in his Ballad
upon a, Wedding, compares the streaks of red on
the lady's cheeks to those on
" a Catherine pear,
. The side that 's next the sun '';
and, in the Schoolmistress, Shenstone speaks of the
lovely dye of the Catherine pear. Is this pear
extinct, or has it only changed its name 1
Lavater tells us, we instinctively expect a hand-
some apple to prove toothsome ; but us the least
comely pears, so far as my experience goes, are
generally the sweetest, one might suppose the
Catherine pear's charms to have been but skin
deep, and hence to have lost their hold on popular
favour, were it not that Shenstone declares its
juice to have been, equal to its dye. Will some
Meliboeus afford this immortalized fruit a note 1
HENRY ATTWELL.
Barnes.
OIL PAINTING ON COPPER-PLATE. — When was
it introduced into England, and when discontinued?
G. GARWOOD.
_ KEBLE'S " CHRISTIAN YEAR." — Will some one
give me the true sense of the third line in the
following? —
" And far below, Gennesaret's main
Spreads many a mile of liquid plain
(Though all seem gather'd in one eager bound),
Then narrowing cleaves yon palmy lea," &c.
It is in the poem for the Seventh Sunday after
Trinity. j. D.
"A BIOGRAPHICAL PEERAGE OF THE EMPIRE
OF GREAT BRITAIN," dated June 1, 1808, and
printed by " T. Bensley, Bolt Court, Fleet Street."
•Wanted the name of the compiler. I possess
the first two volumes, and at the end of the second
is a note to the effect that the bishops will be given
in the succeeding volumes, " which are now in the
press." The work is remarkable for its plain-
speaking with regard to the living nobility. A
duke is stated to be " very peculiar in his person
and habits." Another nobleman " has been willing
to exhibit himself in the theatre of the world : and
his name occurs frequently among the speakers in
Parliament : but his speeches, it must be confessed,
are not remarkable for their acutenes?, precision,
or knowledge."
Another's " eccentricities are not unknown, and
a marriage, which broke forth unexpectedly, caused,
a few years ago, not a little conversation in fashion-
able circles, severely to the disappointment of the
noble admiral his brother." The house of North,
" frank, unassuming, and kind, have for centuries
set a pattern of what in truth they are, true no-
bility." Lord Bathurst is "sagacious and sarcastic" ;
the Earl Grosvenor " discovered some inclination
to become an author ; but he has much more solid
pretensions to distinction — he is immensely rich ! "
while Earl Carnarvon is remarkable " for the in-
temperance of his language." Lord Byron has,
though only twenty, shown great talent, and Lord
de Dunstanville " has large property in Cornish
boroughs." E. PASSINGHAM.
JAY : OSBORNE. — Whence are these surnames
derived ? Are they Norman or Saxon 1
A. 0. M. JAY.
DEATH'S HEAD AND CROSS-BONES. — What is
the history or origin of this symbol, and why is it
a regimental badge ? D. E.
GRINLING GIBBONS. — 1. Is there any informa-
tion relative to Grinling Gibbons the carver besides
that contained in Evelyn's Diary and A. Cun-
ningham's Lives of the British Painters, Sculptors,
and Architects; and if so, what does it amount to 1
2. What was the subject of the carving executed
by Gibbons after a cartoon by Tintoretto, which,
first brought him under Evelyn's notice 1 Cun-
ningham says that it was bought by Sir G. Viner,
and afterwards passed into the collection of the
Duke of Chandos at Cannons. Is it still there ?
3. What is Gibbons's personal appearance, colour
of complexion, eyes, &c., as given in his portrait
by Sir Godfrey Kneller, in the Haughton Gallery 1
How are he and his wife represented in the portraits
by Closterman ; what is her appearance, and who
was she 1
4. What is the title of Mr. Wornum's book in
which Gibbons is mentioned?
5. What is the exact description of Tintoretto's
picture of the Crucifixion in the Scuola di San
Kocco at Venice ? As W. M. J. is in immediate
5"- S. I. FEB. 14, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
129
want of this information, a letter containing it
addressed W. M. J., Clarghyll Hall, Alston, Car-
lisle, would greatly oblige. W. M. J.
BURIAL OF A GIPSY IN A CHURCH. — I have
lately been told that a Gipsy girl was buried some
years ago in the Parish Church of Stretham, Cam-
bridgeshire ; and on referring to the register oi
burials, I have learnt that the burial took place in
the year 1783. The entry is as follows — " Ashena
daughter of Edward & Greenleaf Boswell Ap. 23.'
No mention is here made of the child having
been of Gipsy origin ; but I am satisfied that the
entry relates to the child whom popular tradition
states to have been a Gipsy. A slab inscribed
with her name was formerly to be seen, I am told,
in the north aisle. It is probably now covered by
pews. For some years, it is said, Gipsies used to
visit the grave periodically ; but books having
been lost from the church, the pilgrims were sup-
posed to have been the thieves, and such pilgrim-
ages were thenceforth prohibited.
The Boswells are said to have been rich, and to
have had their table spread with " silver plate."
If so, they would have no difficulty in paying the
fees, and in having a grand funeral. But it appears
strange that the clergyman of the day should have
allowed intramural interment to a comparative
stranger, and a member of a wandering tribe.
According to Borrow, Gipsies in Spain, 4th Ed.
1846, Gipsies are always most anxious to be buried
in consecrated ground ; but is any other instance
known of a Gipsy being buried in a church ?
HUGH PIGOT.
COIN OR TOKEN. — I possess a bronze coin or
token, on one side of which is a pair of scales,
evenly suspended, with a fish-hook under the left-
hand scale. On the reverse is a large heart, with
what appears to be the figure 4 on the top of it,
and below is the date " 1794." Can any one
explain the object of such coin or token 1 It bears
no name or anything to show its value.
N. H. R.
THE ZAMPOGNARI OF NAPLES — where can I
find an account of them, their habitat and customs?
0. S. P.
COLEPEPPER AND DAVENANT. — These names
are mentioned in Macaulay's History of England,
the former as having a quarrel with the Earl of
Devonshire, the latter as being a French partisan.
In neither case is the Christian name or rank
alluded to. I shall feel greatly obliged if any of
your readers can give me their names, or any other
information connected with them. Evelyn, in his
Diary, speaks of the quarrel with the Earl, and
calls him " Col. Cwlpeper." I have some docu-
ments signed by John Lord Culpeper, 1701, John
Lord Colepeper, 1715, and a Thomas Culpeper,
1700, but I should not think either of these can
be right. The wife's name I should also like to
know. I have a Henry Davenant, but of this I am
also doubtful. EMILY COLE.
Teignmouth.
PENN PEDIGREE. — William Penn, founder of
Pennsylvania, bequeathed to William, his son by
his first wife, his Irish property. The son married
Mary Jones, and died in 1720. Did he leave issue?
Where was this property situate 1 Did not Mary
Jones marry secondly a Mr. Gordon ? When did
she die 1 My impression* is that Mary married
Mr. Gordon in Ireland, and that she was of the
Eanelagh family, and died before 1750. There is
probably some marriage settlement on record in
Dublin which would throw light on this second
marriage. M. S. S.
THOMAS MUGGETT, M.D. — I wish for informa-
tion in regard to " Thomas Muggett, Doctor in
Physick," who wrote —
" Health's Improvement ; or, Rules comprizing and
discovering the Nature, Method, and Manner of Pre-
paring all sorts of Food Used in this Nation."
What other works did he write ; is the one
mentioned scarce 1 L. D.
" WARLOCK."— Mr. Earle, in his Philology of the
English Tongue, p. 274, supposes "warlock" to be
a modification of the A.-S. wcer-loga, i.e., a belier
or breaker of one's pledge ; thence applied to any
intelligent being that was perfidious, and under a
ban, and beyond the pale of humanity. I should
be glad to hear if there were any corroborative
evidence for this etymology. A. L. MAYHEW.
Oxford.
MR. HUGH SKEYS. — He was a merchant in
Lisbon between 1780-1790. He married Miss
Fanny Blood, who died very shortly afterwards.
He then returned to Dublin, settled there, and
married again. Can any one tell me the name of
his second wife 1 C. K. P.
GODWIT. — From whence is derived this name
as applied to a well-known wading bird, a spring
and autumn migratory to our shores 1 Montagu,
in his Dictionary of British Birds, gives Godwin
or Godwyn as a local name of this species.
JOHN CORDEAUX.
Great Cotes, Ulceby, Lincolnshire.
MANUEL OF SHOTS. — In Crookshank's History
of tlie State and Sufferings of the Church of Scot-
land from the Restoration to the Revolution, second
dition, Edinburgh, 1751, vol. ii., p. 63, we read
that " Manuel of Shots died of his wounds as he
ntered the Tolbooth of Edinburgh, after the skir-
mish at Airdsmoss, July 20th, 1680." Who was
le ? J. MANUEL.
Newcastle-upon-Tyne.
Derived from a Gordon family tradition.
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5th S. I. FEB. 14, 74.
LODOWICK LOID, who lived in the time of Queen
Elizabeth and James I., was the author of The
Pilgrimage of Princes, 1607. He is styled one of
Her Majesty's Serjeants-at-Arms. In fulfilling the
duties of his office, did he attend the person of the
sovereign, the Lord Chancellor, the Speaker of the
House of Commons, or the Lord Mayor of London 1
Where can I find any biographical account of him ?
A list of his works is given in Lowndes, which
contains, besides The Pilgrimage of Princes, eleven
others on various subjects. A query for a list of
Serjeants-at-Arms during the Tudor period ap-
peared in " N. & Q.," 3rd S. ix. 351, but elicited
no reply. LLALLAWG.
DR. JOHNSON. — In the well-known letter of Dr.
Johnson to Lord Chesterfield is the following
passage : — "The Shepherd in Virgil grew acquainted
with Love, and found him a native of the Kocks."
In what part of Virgil is the reference to be found ?
H. W.
New University Club.
HERALDIC. — Will some one kindly inform me
if the strawberry-leaves in a ducal coronet should
be " proper " or " or " ? — also if the pendants of an
archbishop's mitre should be red ? I -believe those
of a bishop's mitre are white. I want also to know
the arms of the county of York ; have the three
Hidings different shields ]
I should be very thankful to be told of any book
which gives the arms of the English counties. I
am aware of the sheets published by different
booksellers, but they are not correct.
W. M. M.
CURIOUS LITERATURE. — I am informed that there
are some works in French written in a double style,
so that one-half of the page gives a different signifi-
cation to that of the whole. I remember, some
years ago, the press gave a letter of introduction
attributed to Cardinal Richelieu, in which the
letter folded in half gave a totally different signifi-
cation to the whole. I shall be glad if any one will
give me reference, either to any French works
written in this way, or to the last-named letter
Cardinal Richelieu, whether in French or English.
S. M. C.
ON THE ELECTIVE AND DEPOSING POWER
OF PARLIAMENT.
(4th S. xii. 321, 349, 371, 389, 416, 459.)
I am sorry to have been so long in replying to
W. F. F.'s criticisms, but hope to meet with no
further interruptions.
Before entering on the main question, I woulc
like to make a few remarks on certain criticisms o:
W. F. F. on my former paper.
He says (p. 371) that I have not observed that
"the question at issue is one of fact and not o:
heory" ; but my learned opponent, in his first
)aper, certainly begins by stating his theory as to
he general question, and then goes on to prove it
)y particular instances ; besides, facts are worth
nothing if there is no theory to string them together.
Again, W. F. F. urges against my assertion that
' if the kings of England could not be elected or
deposed, they must rule by virtue of divine right,"
liat they would rule by virtue of English law, if
ay that law their crown is hereditary. But may I
ask who makes the laws of the realm ? ' For my
own part, I always understood that it was the Par-
lament. After Some purely personal remarks, my
opponent winds up with a sneer at " the authority
of writers whose researches have led them to fancy
that Canute and the Conqueror were ' elected.' "
Now (1.) Florence of Worcester (ann. 1016) dis-
tinctly asserts the election of Cnut " cujus (i.e. ^Ethel-
redi) post mortem episcopi, abbates, duces et quique
nobiliores Anglise in unum congregati pari consensu
in dominum et regeni sibi Canutum elegere ....
omnemque progeniemregis .^thelredi repudiantes,
pacem cum eo composuere et fidelitatem illi jura-
vere." In 1017 he was formally acknowledged as
king of all England, and Florence adds, " Fredus
etiam cum principibus et omni populo ipse et illi
cum ipso percusserunt." Nothing, it seems to me,
can be plainer than this.
(2.) William of Poitiers over and over again
asserts that the Conqueror was elected, recording
the offer of the crown to William at Berkhamp-
stead, his delay, but final acceptance, and his coro-
nation. In one passage (p. 143) he makes his right
threefold : by bequest or hereditary succession,_ by
conquest, and " coronatus tali eorumdem (i. c.,
Anglorum) consensu vel potius appetitu ejusdeia
gentis firmatum." Ordericus Vitalis (503 B) records-
the offer of the crown, and adds that the chief men
said that they would only, as they had been used,
submit to a crowned king.
W. F. F. then goes on to maintain that even if
there were any precedents in favour of my theory
before the Conquest, it would not matter, as "their
polity was so rude and unsettled," and cites Burke
and Mackintosh ; and then argues that the Cor-
quest, in that it was a conquest, " worked an entire
change." I can only answer, as before, that this
view would break the continuity of English history,
and that it is a well- ascertained fact that the Con-
queror did not wish to do this, but tried, by em-
ploying the legal fiction of entirely disregarding
Harold's reign, to represent himself as the true
successor of the Confessor by grant, as he himself
asserts, in an extant charter.
But when W. F. F. accuses me of misrepresenting
Mr. Freeman's ideas, i. e., when he says that that
historian does not consider the Conqueror to have
been elected, this is too bad; and I am sure
that if W. F. F. takes the trouble to read over the-
account of the " interregnum " in Mr. Freeman's
5th S. I. FEB. 14, 74.]
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131
works, he will see that he is quite mistaken, and
that his sneer was quite* gratuitous. Again, the
" feudal system " never existed in any country as
a system. Traces of feudalism are seen in England
as early as the time of Cnut, and W. F. F.'s whole
argument, as to the attempt of a vassal to depose
his lord involving forfeiture of his estates, is founded
on a misconception. I assert this on the authority
of Mr. Hallam (Middle Ages), who says, that if the
obligations on the king's side were broken, the
vassal could take up arms, and cites an instance in
France, t. Louis IX.
W. F. F. assumes that the three cases of election
I cited, viz., William I., Stephen, and John, were
the only cases during that time. What I meant
was, that they were cases in which a lineal heir had
been excluded by election ; but I will now show
that there were other instances of election between
the Conquest and Edward II. : —
(1) Henry I. W. Malm, says, " In regem electus
est," and we infer from the context that it was by
the "proceres."
(2) Henry II. So Will Newb. ii., c. 1.
(3) Richard I. So Benedictus Abbas, ii., 78.
(4) Henry III. So Ann. Waverl., p. 286, i. c.,
by all who then adhered to him.
With Edward I. the modern doctrine of here-
ditary right begins to appear. After some remarks
as to Stephen's election, W. F. F. asserts that the
crown being got by Henry is still held by his heirs.
This last statement I confess I do not understand,
for if, as W. F. F. holds, Parliament cannot elect
or depose a king, the heir of Henry II. is certainly
not Her Gracious Majesty.
But W. F. F., seemingly conscious of the weak-
ness of his case, then adds the following words : —
"My proposition that no Parliament ever elected or
deposed a sovereign, of course only applied to the period
when Parliaments existed, i. e., subsequent to the rise of
Parliaments, in the reign of Henry III. And as to the
period between the Conquest and that era, I expressly
paid that the succession was unsettled, and Parliaments
did not exist; so that the question did not arise."
I think that W. F. F. should have stated the
limits he intended to observe before this. His
argument is that of a lawyer, and he refuses to
admit any connexion between the old Witena-
gemot and the Parliament (in the narrowest sense
of the word).
W. F. F. then discusses the question of John's
election, quoting Spelman and Blackstone, and
giving an account without references, especially as
to the " secret gifts." The primate, in his speech,
explains the motives for the course he adopted,
" Se praesaga mente conjecturare et quibusdam
oraculis edoctum et certificatum fuisse quod ipse
Johannes regnumefc coronam Anglias foret aliquando
corrupturus et in magnam confusionem prsecipita-
turus ; et ne haberet liberas habenas hoc faciendi,
ipsum electione non successione hfereditaria eligi
debere affirmabat." Thus John had the intention
of claiming by hereditary right, but this act of
Hubert . Walter thwarted his designs. I cannot,
therefore, understand W. F. F. when he says that
" the king and his supporters were conscious of the
defect of his hereditary title, and desired to patch
it up by a show of election to make it popular."
W. F. F. sees in the regency of William Mar-
shall, Earl of Pembroke, " the germ of responsible
government, and the true check upon the doctrine
of hereditary right to the crown." But, to the best
of my knowledge, Henry, though so young, was
the eldest living male of the royal family ; and it
seems to me that the fact tells just the other way,
i.e., that the chief men appointed a regent to guard
the interests of one whom they had elected (v.
Ann. Waverl., p. 286), a clear proof of their com-
petency. I do not, of course, mean to deny that
hereditary right was then unknown, or had no
influence. I contend that, though the choice was
restricted to a single family, the Parliament (in all
its forms), as representing the people, had the right
of choosing any member of it. The recommenda-
tion of the last king had great weight, but prac-
tically the eldest son, as the eldest of the family,
and therefore the most capable of governing, was
chosen ; and. the exercise of the right of free elec-
tion fell into disuse, being only revived at certain
great crises. My point is that in all cases of depo-
sition of kings the right- was revived, and was not
anything new ; that the supreme assembly always
has been, and still is, capable of deposing the king,
of changing or of regulating the succession in any
way it sees fit. W. A. B. C.
(To be continued.)
FIELD LORE : CARR, &c. (4th S. xi., xii.
passim; 5th S. i. 35.) — I am interested in the
remarks on field lore in " N. & Q.," having long
thought that a careful and systematic study of the
names of fields would go far to substantiate many
local traditions, and, at the same time, assist in
recalling natural features of the country as they
existed long centuries ago. Names of fields rarely
change ; they are handed down from generation to
generation, and, although sometimes corrupted in
transit, are, as a rule, wonderfully true to their
original signification both in form and sound.
As an illustration I give, from a list now before
me, a brief analysis of the nomenclature of fields
in the parish from which I write. I must add
that this is a North Lincolnshire marsh parish,
2,600 acres in extent, bounded on the north by
the Humber. Two-thirds are marsh, the fields
divided by drains ; the rest very old uncleared
land, slightly undulated, and many feet above the
level of the marshes. For centuries it was the
property of the Barnardistons of Kedington, in
Suffolk, who had a seat here.
A rather considerable proportion of the fields is
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[5th S. I. FEB. 14, 74.
named after old inhabitants, who have called their
lands after their own names, their former existence
only to be demonstrated by looking into the
parish registers. Others again have reference to
the stock for which they were appropriated, as the
Ox-pasture, Ewe-croft, Neatgang, Bullgarth, Cow-
close, Stock-field, Cowgate, &c.
Another rather large class refers to local position,
or some object or natural feature. Thus we have
the Great Nooks and the Little Nooks closes, so
named, doubtless, from the sharp bends or angles
formed by the windings of a boundary drain
known as the Old-fleet, forming two large angles or
recesses in the one, and two smaller angles in the
other. Then there is the House-close where no
tradition lingers of any habitation, and yet on a
slight elevation in the centre of the field we
plough up charred wood, coarse broken pottery,
and fragments of tobacco-pipes, thick and strong,
with very small bowls, made, as an old labourer
once remarked to me, in days " when bacca wor
dear and poipe-clay cheap." A stretch of rich
pasture land, containing ' several isolated and
elevated patches or mounds, standing above the
level of the marsh, is known as the Holmes, one
part yap excellence as the Bon-holme. Before the
Humber embankments were constructed these
would stand up, high and dry, above the level of
the periodically tide-covered fittie land. In later
times they were the! chosen haunts and battle-
ground of the ruff, a bird now, as a resident, prac-
tically extinct in the county. Then we have the
Beck-field, Mill-holme, and Mill-field ; no probable
site, or any tradition, remaining of any mill saving
the names of these fields.
Near the old Hall (pulled down about seventy
years since) are the Hall-wong, Moats-Close, the
moats still remaining, partly refilled; the Btitt-close,
probably the site of the archery butts. Other
fields are known as Rush-close, Thorn-tree-plat,
Heed-forth, Bridge-carr, Blow-well-plat, the latter
from the circular ponds where springs rise.
Four fields (about 125 acres) immediately adjoin-
ing the Humber embankment are called the
Groves. This name has long been a puzzle, and
certainly is an anomaly in a treeless land like the
marsh. In the will of Sir Tnos. Barnardiston,
Knt., 1618, we find mention of the " Manor of
Coots and the Grosse ; and again " Cootes and
the Grosse."* At this period (the present em-
bankment is a comparatively modern construc-
tion) these fields laid beyond the embankment
and were " fittie " land. Groves may be a corrup-
tion of Grosse; but if so, from whence comes
the word Grosse ?
The meaning of other names is not very appa-
rent. Some, however, of the numerous readers oi
» See a pamphlet Kedington and the Barnardistons,
by Richard Alinack, Esq., p. 60.
N. & Q." may be able to give the interpretation.;
a few have a very Scandinavian ring about them —
Pingle, Sweedale-croft, Malmbridge-close, Skiddal-
croft, Stithy-green, Leach-croft, The Slawns, Hagg,
Semary's, High-dales, &c. ; the termination dal or
dale is not uncommon, yet the land is flat and
treeless. JOHN CORDEAUX.
Great Cotes, Ulceby, Lincolnshire.
This is a common name in Norfolk, but, as far
as my observation goes, always a compound one,
for very wet pieces of land in the marshy districts,
planted with osiers or alders, and hence called
asier or alder carrs. One I know of is called the
bird-carr, from the fact of the black-headed gull
(Larus ridibundus] formerly (thirty or thirty-five
years ago) breeding there. N — x.
A STUBBORN FACT (4th S. xii. 469 ; 5a S. i. 13.)
— Perhaps the following extract from the auto-
biography of the late Lord Brougham may be of
interest in connexion with the subject of your
note with the above heading. It certainly pre-
sents another nut for unbelievers in apparitions to
crack, and its authority is undoubtedly genuine : —
" Tired with the cold of yesterday, I was glad to take
advantage of a hot hath before I turned in. And here a
most remarkable thing happened to me — so remarkable
that I must tell the story from the beginning. After I
left the High School, Edinburgh, I went with G' , my
most intimate friend, to attend the classes in the Uni-
versity. There was no divinity class, but we frequently
in our walks discussed and speculated upon many grave
subjects — among others, on the immortality of the soul
and on a future state. This question, and the possibility,
I will not say of ghosts walking, but of the dead appear-
ing to the living, were subjects of much speculation ; and
we actually committed the folly of drawing up an agree-
ment, written with our blood, to the effect, that whichever
of us died the first should appear to the other, and thus
solve any doubts we had entertained of the ' life alter
death.' After we had finished our classes at the College,
G went to India, having got an appointment there
in the Civil Service. He seldom wrote to me, and after
the lapse of a few years I had almost forgotten him ;
moreover, his family having little connection with Edin-
burgh, I seldom saw or heard anything of them, or of him
through them, so that all the old school-boy intimacy had
died out, and I had nearly forgotten his existence. I
had taken, as I have said, a warm bath ; and while lyinjr
in it and enjoying the comfort of the heat, after the late
freezing I had undergone, I turned my head round, look-
ing towards the chair on which I deposited my clothes,
as I was about to get up out of the bath. On the chair
sat Q } looking calmly at me. How I got out of the
bath I • know not, but on recovering my senses I found
myself sprawling on the floor. The apparition, or what-
ever it was that had taken the likeness of G , had
disappeared.
"This vision produced such a shock that I had no
inclination to talk about it, or to speak about it even to
Stuart ; but the impression it made upon me was too
vivid to be easily forgotten ; and so strongly was I affected
by it, that I have written down the whole history, with
the date, 19th December, and all the particulars, as they
are now fresh before me. No doubt I had fallen asleep ;
and that the appearance presented so distinctly to my
eyes was a dream, I cannot for a moment doubt ; yet for
5th S. I. FEB. 14, '74.]
NOTE3 AND QUERIES.
133
years I had bad no communication with G , nor hac
there been anything to recall him to my recollection
nothing had taken place during our Swedish travels either
connected with G or with India, or with anything
relating to him or to any member of his family. I recol
lected quickly enough our old discussion, and the bargain
we had made. I could not discharge from my mind the
impression that G must have died, and that his
appearance to me was to be received by me as proof of a
future state ; yet all the while I felt convinced that the
whole was a dream ; and so painfully vivid and so un-
fading was the impression that I could not bring mysell
to talk of it, or to make the slightest allusion to it.
finished dressing, and as we had agreed to make an early
start, I was ready by six o'clock, the hour of our early
breakfast.
" Brougham, October 16, 1 862. — I have just been copy-
ing out from my journal an account of this strange dream.
Certissima mortis imago ! And now to finish the story,
began above sixty years since. Soon after my return to
Edinburgh there arrived a letter from India announcing
G 's death, and stating that he had died on the 19th
of December. Singular coincidence ! Yet when one
reflects on the vast number of dreams which night after
night pass through our brains, the number of coincidences
between the vision and the event are perhaps fewer and
less remarkable than a fair calculation of chances would
warrant us to expect. Nor is it surprising, considerin<3
the variety of our thoughts in sleep, and that they all
bear some analogy to the affairs of life, that a dream
should sometimes coincide with a contemporaneous or
even a future event. This is not much more wonderful
than that a person whom we had no reason to expect
should appear to us at the very moment we had been
thinking or speaking of him. I believe every ghost story
capable of some such explanation."
I will not make any comment on the attempt at
explanation, further than to say that I do not con-
sider the reasoning very sound. When we find
these coincidences repeated many times, there is
certainly room for questioning their mere accidental
occurrence. H. G. W.
HART HALL, HERTFORD COLLEGE, OXFORD
(5th S. i. 51, 74.)— " Aula Cervina," as the Editor
very correctly remarks, was the ancient Hart Hall,
before it became Hertford College. On the break-
ing up of that house the premises lapsed to the
University, and were by it made over to Magdalen
Hall, now in occupation of them, but formerly
adjoining to Magdalen College. As to the origin
of the name, Antony a Wood tells us—" Ab eodem
(Elia de Hertford) Aula Cervina (quippe prima
pars vocis Hertford Cervum idiomate Anglicano
denotat) appellari ccepit."
EDMUND TEW, M.A.
A. H. B. (p. 74) says that I hesitated to render
Aula Cervina as Hart Hall, and that I ddUbted if
it was right. But it was not hesitation but
inability, and not doubt but ignorance. I said I
had never happened to hear of Hart or Hert Hall,
and of course a mere assertion was not conclusive.
It is clear enough now. LTTTELTON.
I am a Cambridge man as well as LORD
LYTTELTON, and therefore speak with hesitation ;
but I have always understood, that by reason of
some very great stringency in the statutes, no one
could be got to take the Principalship of Hertford
College on the death, 1805 (Le Nevej, of Bernard
Hodgson ; that the college falling therefore into
decay, was dissolved by Act of Parliament in 1822
(the last Fellow, the Eev. Eichard Hewett, who of
course had a pension, died in 1833) ; and that the
buildings were handed over to Magdalene Hall,
the old Magdalene Hall being taken into Magdalene
College. CHARLES F. S. WARREN, M.A.
The following, from the Times of Jan. 30 last,
is worthy of preservation in "N. & Q.," in illustration
of what correspondents have written on this sub-
ject. Some information in regard to Hart Hall,
or Hertford College, may be found in Ackermann's
Oxford. Unless my memory is at fault, it was the
college at which Charles James Fox received a
portion of his education : —
" A scheme has been drawn up of a Bill for the incor-
poration of Magdalen Hall as a College under the desig-
nation of the Principal and Scholars of Hertford College,
and for transferring the endowments at present held in
trust for the Hall by the University to the new College.
The Bill does not propose the foundation of Fellowships,
or any modification of the present system of government
of the Hall. Magdalen Hall was transferred to its present
site by an Act of Parliament obtained in 1816, under the
principalship of the late Dr. Macbride. It was originally
erected by Bishop Waynflete in the neighbourhood of
Magdalen College for students previous to admission into
his society. Hertford College, of which it is now pro-
posed to revive the title, was originally Hert Hall (Aitla
Cervina) ; in 1740 its Principal, Dr. Newton, obtained
with some difficulty its incorporation as a College, con-
sisting of a Principal and four Fellows, for which latter
he provided a small endowment, insufficient, however, to
procure a succession of Fellows ; and in 1805, there being
no Principal, and but one Fellow, the College was dis-
solved, and what remained of the endowments was in part
appropriated to the foundation of the Hertford Latin
Scholarship, in part granted to the use of Magdalen Hall,
upon the death of the surviving Fellow. The Hertford
Scholarship was accordingly established in 1834."
JOHN PICKFORD, M.A.
Newbourne Rectory, Woodbridge.
CERVANTES AND SHAKSPEARE (4th S. xii. 426,
501 ; 5th S. i. 97.) — Your correspondents have laid to
M. Viardot's charge more than he deserved. So far
from stating that the New Style was adopted earlier
in England than in Spain, he says just the reverse,
en retard des Espagnols." His statement is
quoted verbatim in a volume entitled Collier, Cole-
ridge, and Shakespeare, London, 1860, together with
comment which, as it fully explains the subject,
may be usefully repeated : —
" Dr. Drake, in Shakespeare and his Times, alluding to
Shakespeare's death on the 23rd April, 1616, writes thus :
" ' It is remarkable that on the same day expired in
Spain his great and amiable contemporary, Cervantes ;
rhe world being thus deprived, nearly at the same mo-
ment, of the two most original writers which modern
urope has produced.'
" The same remark had been made many years before
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[5th S. I. FEB. 14, '74.
by John Bowie, the editor of Don Quixote, and it is thus
commented upon by M. Louis Viardot, in his Notice sur
la Vie, <L-c., de Cervantes :—' On trouve, en effet, dans les
biographies de Shakespeare, qu'il decedale23 avril, 1616.
Mais il faut prendre garde que les Anglais, n'adopterent
le calendrier gregorien qu'en 1754, et qu'ils furent jusque-
la en retard des Espagnols pour les dates, comine les
Kusses le sont aujourd'hui du reste de 1'Europe. Shake-
speare a done survecu douze jours a Cervantes.'
" Here is a double mistake ; first on the part of the
English writers, as is cleverly enough pointed out by M.
Viardot ; and next on the part of M. Viardot himself —
only that his mistake is much more remarkable for igno-
rance of the subject, and far less excusable, inasmuch as
it was committed with full attention directed to the point
in question, which the others had wholly overlooked.
M. Viardot states that Shakespeare survived Cervantes by
ticelve days, forgetting that, although that number of days
be now the difference between old style and new, it was
not so when Shakespeare died. The difference was then
but ten days, and did not amount to twelve for nearly
two centuries afterwards."
And to this the following foot-note is appended:
" Another example is Mr. Knight's supposed Play Bill
for Much Ado about Nothing, prefixed to his 'Supple-
mentary Notice ' of that play, and dated ' This day being
Tuesday, July 11, 1600,' which is a new-style date."
C. ELLIOT BROWNE.
J. B. P. thinks " it is certain that they both
died on the same day Old Style.'' This must mean
that when Spanish biographers of Cervantes
asserted that he died on April 23, 1616, they were
employing the Old Style. Will J. B. P. favour
readers of " N. & Q." with the grounds on which
he has arrived at that conclusion ? Seeing that
the New Style was introduced into Spain in 1582,
I should have thought all subsequent writers would
have employed it in their chronology. But J. B. P.
asserts that " the introduction of the New Style
into Spain has nothing to do with the question."
I confess J. B. P. has mystified me, and I should
be obliged if he would " turn on the light."
JABEZ.
Athenaeum Club.
A PROFESSOR "OF HEBREW, TEMP. ELIZABETH
(4th S. xii. 516.) — Cevallerius was the second King's
Professor of Hebrew at Cambridge. His name,
as given in Le Neve's Fasti Ecclesice Anglicance,is
Anthony Eodolphus Cevallerius. The following
notice of him is from Strype's Life of Abp. Parker,
1709, p. 366 :—
" Another, who, if I mistake not, died this year [1572],
namely, Rauf le Chevalier, or, as he is writ in Latin,
Rodulphus Cavalerius, Hebrew professor at Cambridge,
whither he went anno 1569, as we have heard before. I
have seen his last will in French, made in Guernsey,
where he now was, as it seems, with his wife and
children. His wife's name was Elizabeth le Grimecieux.
He had two daughters, Joel and Mary, and only one
son, Samuel, and three nephews, beyond sea, Robert,
Anthony, and Oliver."
Strype gives considerable extracts from his will,
which bore date Guernsey, Oct. 8th, 1572, and
from which it appears that Cevallerius and Prof.
Tremcllius of Heidelberg had married sisters. Abp.
Parker presented Cevallerius to the seventh pre-
3end of Canterbury in 1569.
Sir Anthony Cook (the father-in-law of Cecil)
was the chief patron of Cevallerius, and procured
him a patent of naturalization in 1552. It is
probable that he then taught in the University
inder the name of Mr. Anthony (see Strype A nn.
Bef., i. 530). In the same book (i. 524) there is
an account of Dr. Saravia, who in 1566 was settled
as a teacher in Guernsey, but proposed to return
home to Flanders. Chambrelayne, the governor,
persuaded him to go first to London, and gave
liim a letter to Cecil, who at once became his
patron, made him a free denizen, and persuaded
him " to tarry where he was."
EDWARD SOLLY.
"ANTHEM": "ANTHYMN" (5th S. i. 68.)— John-
son thought the word should be written " anthymn,"
deriving it from the Greek av^u/tvos. Barrow
also writes " anthym." The word, according to
some, is a corruption of avri^tovos through the
Anglo-Saxon antefen ; but the Quarterly Review
(April, 1861) thinks it more correctly derived
through the Anglo-Saxon word " anthymn," from
avrt, and t!^tvos. (Dr. Johnson's avOvfivos is, I
believe, an imaginary word.) The terms " anthem "
and " antiphon," the Quarterly adds, mean much
alike, ai/Ti-{!/>ivos referring to the method of sing-
ing the words, while dvT6-<£wvos had reference to
the alternate vocal performance only.
MR. MILLIGAN says that in the Canterbury
Tales "antiphone" is used. Chaucer, however,
has "antem" in the following lines from the
Prioresses Tale ; and " antheme," " antetheme,"
" anteteme," are also found in other writers: —
" And whan that I my lif shulde forlete,
To me she came, and bad me for to sing,
This antem veraily in my dying,
As ye han herde."
S. H. WILLIAMS.
18, Kensington Crescent, W.
Barrow spells the word thus in one of his
sermons ; but there is no doubt that the derive •
tion shown by Chaucer is the correct one.
Another fanciful derivation I have seen is from
av#€/Aov, as if it were the "flower" of church
music. — See Blunt's Annotated Book of Common
Prayer, p. Ixii. (sixth edition), where references
are given on the subject to old volumes of
" N. & Q." C. F. S. WARREN, M.A.
"Anthem," anciently spelt "anteme" (Dr. Han-
mer's translation of Socrates, lib. vi. c. 12, London,
1636, quoted in Annot. Boole of Common Prayer, p.
Ivi), also " antem," " antempne " (Myrroure of Our
Lady, fol. Ixxxix. ib. p. Ixii.), is derived from
dvTL(}>wva. Barrow, in one of his sermons, spells the
word " anthymn " : this induced Dr. Johnson to give
5th S. I. FKB. 14, '74.]
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135
the derivation as avOvfj-vos. Bailey gives the same
derivation, but simply as a query.
JOHNSON BAILY.
Pallion Vicarage.
SWEDEN (5th S. i. 7.) — " Sweden " is a corruption
of the old name of Sweden, which was Svipjoft ;
with the article suffixed, Svi^oftin. The etymology
of the first part of the word, svi, is unknown. We
only know that the Swedes were called Sviar from
the oldest times ; even Tacitus calls them Suiones.
pjtjft means people, nation ; and the whole word
is thus the people of the Sviar. The present name
of Sweden is Svearike or Sverig.
J(5N A. HjALTALfN.
Advocates' Library, Edinburgh.
" ARCANDAM" (5th S. i. 48.)— I have a copy of
this book, of which this is the full title : —
" The most EXCELLENT, profitable, and pleasant BOOK
Of the Famous Doctor, And expert Astrologian, ARCAN-
DAM, or, ALCANDKIN : To find the fatal Destiny, Con-
stellation, Complexion, and Na-tural inclination of every
Man and Child by his birth. WITH An Addition of
PHYSIOGNOMY, very pleasant to read. Newly turned out
of the French into our Vulgar Tongue. By William
W arde. London, Printed for Thomas Vere, at the sign
of the Angel without Newgate, 1670."
It contains curious old woodcuts of the signs of
the Zodiac. On referring to several biographical
dictionaries, I can find no account whatever of
Arcandam or Alcandrin. Can any of the readers
of "N. & Q." give any information respecting him1?
F. A. EDWARDS.
KENTISH EPITAPHS (5th S. i. 62.)— The epitaph
numbered seven, at Iwade, Kent, is by no means
of uncommon occurrence in churchyards in Eng-
land, and has often done duty over infants' graves.
In the Arundines Cami, editio quarta, it is trans-
lated into Latin verse, and its authorship is
assigned to Charles Wesley. The epitaph is said
thei'e to be in Wi«bech Churchyard.
JOHN PICKFORD, M.A.
Newbourne Rectory, Woodbridge. .
KING OF ARMS (5th S. i. 50.) — I am concerned
to find that I have been guilty of lese-majesU in
speaking, in a former communication, of a great
heraldic functionary as " King at arms." This is
a grievous, though common, error ! S. has also
fallen into it. " King of arms " is unquestionably
the proper designation, and I feel that I owe a
deep debt of gratitude to the eminent member of
the Heralds' College who condescended to take me
to task for so great a slip made in pointing out
what I believe to be an erroneous heraldic practice.
Of course, I accepted the one as a complete " set
off" against the other, and having reformed my
own manners, live in hopes of seeing other errors
corrected. J. WOODWARD.
NOTE OF THE LATE MR. CHARLES KIRKPATRICK
SHARPS TO "LORD OF THE ISLES" (4th S. x. 94.)
— It will be recollected that a difficulty arose
respecting this note (vol. x. p. J300, ed. Edinb.,
1848), where Mr. Sharpe gives a quotation from a
MS. History of the Presbytery ofPenpont referring
to a traditionary statement in regard to Robert
Bruce and Kirkpatrick of Closeburn. This was
thought by ANGLO-SCOTUS to be from Rae's MS.
History of the same Presbytery, and I confess that
I fell into the same blunder. We are, however,
both mistaken in this, as I find the quotation of
Mr. Sharpe is taken from the Rev. Mr. Black's
MS., which is certainly in the Advocates' Library,
and which is printed in the Appendix to Symson's
History of Galloway. I ought to have observed
that no name is given in the note, and possibly
Mr. Sharpe may not have been aware of Rae
having written on the same subject. I have
already (4th S. x. 187) told all that is known re-
garding Rae's MS. C. T. RAMAGE.
THE POET COWPER : " TROOPER " (5°» S. i. 68.)—
"A riddle by Cowper
Made me swear like a trooper,
But my anger, alas ! was in vain ;
For remembering the bliss
Of beauty's soft kiss,
I now long for such riddles again."
This is an answer published in the Gentleman's
Magazine, 1806, to the well-known riddle " I am
just two and two." — See Benham's Globe edition,
p. 524. C. F. S. WARREN, M.A.
" S " VERSUS " Z " (5th S. i. 89.)— The ignorance
and indolence of compositors tend to alter our
spelling. HERMENTRUDE'S workman was clearly
a conservative. " Fullness " has become "fulness,"
and "authour"has been shortened to "author,"
because printers are lazy. This last word would
become " lasy " if the newfangled spelling were
established. Our alphabet has many anomalies,
but we need not increase them : s and z have
different sounds, and should be kept to their proper
work as far as possible. If we are to write " tease,"
why not " sneese," " wheese " ? If " realise," why
not " sise," " prise " ? The fact is that in this age
of rapid writing we neglect both spelling and
punctuation, and the result is a gradual disestab-
lishment of orthodoxy in both, through the com-
positors. MORTIMER COLLINS.
Knowl Hill, Berks.
DATE OF A CALENDAR (5th S. i. 88.) — See De
Morgan's useful Book of Almanacks. Here we have
the thirty-five possible almanacks, with an index
for finding the proper one for each year. Accord-
ing to this, the years in the fourteenth century
when Easter Day fell on March 27, and the Sunday
letter was B, were 1323, 1334, and 1345. But I
have seen the 27th of March marked as Easter
Day without any respect to the year in which the
Calendar was published, e. g., in a Sarum Breviary
of 1556, in which year Easter Day fell on April 5,
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[5th S. I. FEB. 14, 74.
in an undated MS. Calendar, and in that of the
Sarum Missal, printed by the Church Press Com-
pany. These are all I have to refer to at this
moment; but, no doubt, it is the regular thing, and
perfectly explicable. Perhaps some one who has
paid special attention to such matters will kindly
enlighten us. J. T. F.
Hatfield Hall, Durham.
The year in which this Calendar was written
would seem to be 1345. Hampson, Medii JEvi
Kalendarium, ii. p. 90, gives a table to find the
Dominical Letter for any year (Old Style). From
this table it appears that B was the Sunday Letter
for the following years:— 1306, 1317,1323, 1334,
1345, 1351, 1362, 1373, 1379, 1390. At page 187
of the same work is a table for finding the Golden
Number. From it we find that 16 was the number
for 1307, 1326, 1345, 1364, 1383. Comparing the
two sets of years, we arrive at 1345 as the date of
the Calendar. JOHNSON BAILT.
Pallion Vicarage.
SIR THOMAS HERBERT, OF TINTERN, BART.
(5th S. i. 88.) — He was author of A Relation of
Some Years' Travels, London, 1634 ; and also
assisted Dugdale in the Monasticon (see Allibone).
Burke says (Extinct Peerage, p. 273, last edit.),
"it is stated" that he was descended from Sir
Richard Herbert, brother of the first Earl of Pem-
broke. Sir Thomas was created a baronet at the
Restoration (Extinct Baronetage, p. 258), and died
1682 (Allibone). The title, Burke further says,
is supposed to have become extinct with his son.
CHARLES F. S. WARREN, M.A.
SIR JOHN BURLEY, K.G. (5th S. i. 88.)— The
precise date and the place of the death of this
knight have not been ascertained, but that event
must have happened between the months of June
and October, 1383, for on June 22 the king's em-
broiderer acknowledged the receipt of the sum of 500
marks from the king, when he had orders to prepare
a garter and robes for the Earl of Nottingham, who
succeeded to the stall of Sir John Burley in the
Order of the Garter (see Beltz, Memorials of the
Order of the Garter, p. 259). J. WOODWARD.
See the list of K.G.'s in Sir H. Nicolas's Orders
of Knighthood, vol. ii. p. 53.
CHARLES F. S. WARREN, M.A.
He was buried in the Church of the Blackfriars,
Hereford. JOHN MACLEAN.
Hammersmith.
_ SIR DAVID LYNDSAY (5th S. i. 108.)— No doubt
Sir Walter Scott is wrong in his particular expla-
nation of " pa, da, lyn " ; but quite right in the
main in condemning Chalmers's edition. Let me
recommend W. A. C. to consult the edition by
Mr. Fitzedward Hall and Mr. J. A. H. Murray
(Early English Text Society). In Part II., p. 305
;he three words are correctly explained in a side-
note by " play, David Lyndsay." I have also seen
the correction printed elsewhere, but cannot re-
member the reference. WALTER W. SKEAT.
Cintra Terrace, Cambridge.
THE BARBOR JEWEL (5th S. i. 89.) — The present
aossessor of this jewel is the Rev. E. E. Blencowe,
•Stow Bardolph Vicarage, Downham Market, Nor-
folk. I have no doubt he would be glad to be
:ommunicated with respecting the portrait of
Barbor. C. R. M.
THE WATERLOO AND PENINSULAR MEDALS
(5th S. i. 47, 98.)— The question asked by C. T. B.,
as I understand it, has no reference to the gold
medals specially granted to officers of superior
rank down to the termination of the war with the
battle of Toulouse, but to those known as the
Waterloo and Peninsular medal; and information
is asked as to the year in which the latter was
granted. C. T. B. is quite right that the Waterloo
medal came first. It was granted to combatants
only, those actually present in either of the actions
of the 16th, 17th, or 18th June, 1815. The
Peninsular medal was graciously awarded by Her
Majesty, under General Order of the 1st of June
1847, to both combatants and non-combatants. The
grant extends over the entire period of the Penin-
sular War, and the medal has clasps attached for
those general actions at which the recipient was
present. W. DILKE.
Chichester.
The gold medals referred to by MR. WARREN
were given, in two sizes, only -to General and Field
officers, or to officers of equal rank. The order is
dated, " Horse Guards, 9th September, 1810."
J. W. FLEMING.
Brighton.
I beg leave to apologize to C. T. B. and all
whom it may concern for my ignorance in not
knowing that there is a new Peninsular medal as
well as an old. A friend corrects me, and gives,
also, this description: —
"The Peninsular medal is — Olv. Head of Queen with
legend Victoria Regina, 1848. Rev. Queen, in robes an J
crown, crowning Duke of Wellington with laurel. Let/end
To the British Army, 1793-1814."
CHARLES F. S. WARREN, M.A.
IRISH PROVINCIALISMS (4th S. ix. xii. passim ;
5th S. i. 9.) — Some of these are also common
in Lancashire. To "hap" the bed-clothes about
any person in bed is to push them close to
him, so as to keep him warm. " At skrike o'
day" is one of our phrases, but we sound it to
rhyme with strike, not with creek. " Skrike"
means shriek; but why it should be applied to the
break of day, I leave wiser persons to decide.
" Sant Peter 'er fair flayd," said a Lancashire man,
giving a graphic description of a sermon he had
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heard ; "he' re awssin' to walk o' th' wayter, yo
sen ; an' he fell daan fifteen fathom, an' he skriked
aat." (Perhaps your correspondents in the southern
counties may be glad of a translation: " St. Peter
was greatly frightened ; he was trying to walk on
the water, you see, and he fell down fifteen
fathoms (!), and he shrieked out.")
HERMENTRUDE.
Some years ago, when at Londonderry, I wrote
out a collection of names of places, with their sup-
posed meanings. Amongst them I find Limna
Vady, the leap of the dog. I cannot now remember
the authority, but think it was some local guide-
book. A. S.
REGISTER BOOKS STAMPED (5th S. i. 27, 77.) —
The stamps in the register represent the collection,
by the clergyman, of a Government tax of three-
pence on each birth, marriage, and burial, except
in the case of paupers. The Crown appears to
have been very lax in checking the accounts de-
livered by the clergy; hence the irregularity in the
use of the stamps. W. C. P. will find a corre-
spondence upon the subject of this tax in the Gen-
tleman's Magazine for July, 1792, pp. 596-7,
August, 1792, p. 716, and October, 1794, pp. 895-6.
T. N.
There are some singular entries in the Eegister
of Whittlesey S. Mary, co. Camb., quoted in my
book on the Peterborough Churches, p. 100, which
may interest W. C. P. in connexion with this sub-
ject:—
" 1783. Oct. — In the beginning of this month the nasty
three penny Tax took place, and as I expect, from the
great Number of poor and the Rebellious Humour of the
Parishioners, to collect but few threepences. I shall mark
those that pay with V in the Baptisms and Burials. N.B.
As people are most frequently openhearted on the day of
Marriage, I expect most of my Parishioners will pay ye
3d on that occasion. I shall therefore mark those that do
not pay with a V.
" I squeezed 3d from many a poor wretch ill able to
give even so much to Government I am affraid. I think
I ought not to urge quite so hard."
The fees for one year in this parish amounted to
II. Os. Qd., upon which the curate has this note: —
" 'tis very much more than I expected or than I shall
have next year, for as Poverty is admitted a plea, it will
be very frequently urged."
W. D. SWEETING.
Peterborough.
" Hie ET ALTJBRIS " (4th S. xii. 388, 499.)— This
motto corrected, as it has been by some of your
correspondents, to Est Ulubris, was placed by the
great philosophic physician Dr. Cullen above the
door of his country house on Ormiston Hill, near
Edinburgh, which has a magnificent view across
the vale of the Almond to the Ochills and the
outlying Grampians. Here he used to retire from
the bustle of the capital, to rusticate and muse,
spending his leisure time in gardening. I believe
the records of these hours may still be seen in
foreign plants and shrubs around his old house.
Many have, like Dr. Cullen, enjoyed such retire-
ment, and been able to exclaim with Politian : —
" Felix ille animi, divisque simillimus ipsis,
Quern non mendaci resplendens gloria fuco
Solicitat, non fastosi mala gaudia luxus ;
Sed tacitos sinit ire dies, et paupere cultu
Exigit innocuse tranquilla silentia vitae."
C. T. RAMAGE.
"CALLING OUT LOUDLY FOR THE EARTH" (4th
S. xii. 285, 375 ; 5th S. i. 38.)— The same expres-
sion in their native language is very common
amongst the peasantry of Glamorganshire.
R. &M.
CROWING HENS (4th S. xi. xii. passim.) — I had
for three years in my poultry-yard a hen of the
pheasant kind, with comb not unlike those of
other hens, which crowed constantly during the
day, especially about feeding-time. There are
also several at this present moment among the
poultry in the farm-yards of the farmers in my
parish which crow constantly. Far from looking
upon them as birds of ill-omen, we have generally
considered them as birds worth keeping, insomuch
as they are (as a rule) good layers, and when too
old for that purpose, are not bad eating. Gastro-
nomy, not superstition, is the ill-omen in these
*' northern" regions for the hens.
WILLIAM MORRIS.
-Low Wray Parsonage, Windermere.
THE PRODIGAL Sox (4th S. vii. 56, 150.)— Dib-
din, in his Tour in France and Germany, vol. i.
318, gives an amusing cut of the prodigal son
getting on the wrong side of his horse, arrayed in
the cloak, cocked hat, and top-boots of a French
officer of the period. I have met with a print
where the same hero is dressed in wig, knee-
breeches, &c., and a huge turnip-watch is being
stolen from him by his not very creditable com-
panions. SENNACHERIB.
THE CHARTULARIES OF THE ABBEYS OF VALE
ROYAL NORTON, BIRKENHEAD, AND COMBERMERE,
CHESTER (5th S. i. 68.)— H. T. will find all that
remains of the Vale Royal Chartulary (and that is
only a transcript) in the Harl. MS. 2064, at the
British Museum. The chartulary of Combermere
is also in the British Museum, Coll. MS., Faust
B. VIII. As I have lately had occasion to consult
the MS. referring to Vale Royal, if H. T. will
favour me with a note, I might possibly be able to
furnish the information he requires.
H. FISHWICK.
Carr Hill, Rochdale.
COPYING PRINTED MATTER (4th S. viii. 480 ; ix.
19, 127, 291.)— After much trouble, I procured
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[5th S. I. FEB. 14, 74.
some of this paper and found it practically useless.
The paper will sometimes copy printed matter, but
is so thick that the copy cannot be seen from the
other side ; and after repeated trials, 1 failed to get
a transfer. Beside this, I found the turpentine
somewhat defaced the original. Having much
copying to do, I was induced to make experiments,
being convinced of the practicability of such a
process ; and after numerous failures, I at last suc-
ceeded. Two points I considered indispensable :
1st. That the original should not be injured, — 2nd.
That it should not be necessary to take a re-transfer.
My process fully answers both these conditions,
and is besides cheap and expeditious. Having
been at some little expense and trouble, I do not
care about making the process public, but should
any of your readers desire to use it, I shall be glad
to hear from them. J. WARRINGTON.
N.W. Cor. 4th and Race (]), Philada., U.S.A.
BROWNING'S "LOST LEADER" (4th S. xii. 473,
519 ; 5th S. i. 71.)— MR. DALBY very naturally
asks me for my authority for stating that Mr.
Browning means Wordsworth by his Lost Leader.
I was told it by a friend, who had it from Mr.
Browning himself. Before I knew it for certain,
I suspected that the poem referred to Wordsworth.
If MR. DALBY will turn to Shelley's sonnet ad-
dressed to this great poet, beginning—
" Poet of Nature tliou hast wept to see,"
he will find that Shelley reproaches him in terms
not unlike those with which Mr. Browning re-
proaches the Lost Leader : —
" Thou wert as a lone star whose light did shine
On some frail bark in winter's midnight roar :
Thou hast like to a rock-built refuge stood
Above the blind and battling multitude :
In honoured poverty thy voice did weave
Songs consecrate to truth and liberty, —
Deserting these thou leavest me to grieve,
Thus having been, that thou shouldst cease to be."
It is not to be wondered at, that men like Shelley
and Mr. Browning should mourn the defection oi
their illustrious brother-bard from his early liberal
principles. No one can doubt Wordsworth':
sincerity, as his uprightness and honesty of pur-
pose were equal to those of Milton himself.
Wordsworth and his fellow poet Coleridge were
frightened by the excesses of the French Eevolu-
tion ; but great intellects like these ought to have
been able to distinguish between essentials anc
non-essentials, and to understand that these ex-
cesses were no necessary part of the great Eevolu-
tion, but, as it were, mere accidents. Had ten
times as many victims perished on the guillotine
they would not have falsified nor altered in anj
respect the great leading principles of the Eevolu
tion. MR. DALBY disputes Wordsworth's title to
be considered a " leader." I cannot agree with hin
in this opinion. Wordsworth is all but universally
acknowledged to be one of the greatest Englisi
>oets, if he is not, indeed, the very greatest since
Milton ; and, as such, he may well be called a
' leader " of thought. JONATHAN BOUCHIER.
SEIZING DEAD BODIES FOR DEBT (4th S. xii.
158, 196, 296.) — I believe it is generally supposed
hat Mrs. Henry Wood, in her work, East Lynne,
•efers to the case of Bishop Carr, at whose death
lis creditors threatened to seize his body ; but the
debts were paid by a gentleman, who afterwards
named the Bishop's daughter. The circumstances
ire well known in Worcestershire, but I do not
•efer more particularly to them, as some of the
parties concerned are living. CLERICUS.
HENRY HALLYWELL (4th S. xii. 209, 255, 318)
was buried in the nave of St. Margaret's Church,
[field, Essex, of which he was some time vicar.
Eis signature appears in the parish registers. I will
lend the inscription that is on the stone and fuller
particulars in a few days' time.
AUBREY E. BLAKER.
BIRDS OF ILL OMEN (4th S. xii. 327, 394.)—
In M. G. Lewis's ballad of Bill Jones, the follow-
ing are the introductory stanzas : —
" ' Ah, well-a-day,' the sailor said,
' Some danger must impend,
Three ravens sit in yonder glade,
And evil will happen, I 'm sore afraid,
Ere we reach our journey's end.'
' And what have the ravens with us to do ]
Does their sight betoken us evil ? '
' To see one raven is lucky, 'tis true,
But it 's certain misfortune to light upon two,
And meeting with three is the devil ! ' "
Ed o-ar Allan Poe's poem is rather at variance with
the poem of Lewis, for Poe's bird is solitary, and yet
he is " ill omened." N.
SINOLOGUE (4th S. xii. 267, 312, 379, 418.)—
This occurs as an English word in the Journal of
Botany for December, 1873, p. 376.
JAMES BRITTEN.
THE CATTLE AND THE WEATHER (4th S. xii.
516 ; 5th S. i. 54.)— I have heard, that, in Derby-
shire, when the cattle remain on the top of the
hills, the weather will be fine ; but wet when they
descend to the valleys. GEORGE E. JESSE.
EEV. E. GEE (4th S. xii. 439, 501 ; 5th S. i. 16.)
— The original edition of A Memorial of the Re-
formation of England was published in 1596,
under the initials of its author, E[obert] P[ersons],
or Parsons, alias Coobuck, alias N. Doleman, the
celebrated Jesuit. The edition edited by Edward
Gee (of which I possess a copy), and which was
called by him The Jesuit's Memorial, was published
in 1690. The titles of Mr. Gee's other works,
some of which were anonymous, may be ascertained
from Watt's Bib. Brit.
GASTON DE BERNEVAL.
Philadelphia, U.S.A.
5">S. I. FEB. 14, 74.]
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NOTES ON BOOKS, &c.
Debrett's Illustrated Peerage and Titles of Courtesy of the
United Kingdom, of Great Britain and Ireland. To
which is added much Information respecting the
immediate Family Connections of the Peers. (Dean &
Son.)
Debrett's Illustrated Baronetage, with the Knightage, <bc.
(Dean & Son.)
" DEBRETT " is the oldest of our "Annuals." It is now
in its hundred and sixtieth year, and it may he said to
have improved every year. The magnitude of vigilant
labour required is shown hy the fact that there are
16,000 alterations in the present volume, arising from
various incidents and changes since last year's publica-
tion. Two claimants are recorded for the baronetcy of
Frederick, and two for that of Codrington, — each, mean-
while, calling himself by the title. That of Congreve is
open to a claimant. That of Dick is still maintained by
Debrett, though it is given up by others skilled in
heraldry and genealogy.
The Life and Death of ' John of Barneveld, Advocate of
Holland. With a View of the Primary Causes and
Movements of the Thirty Years' War. By John Lothrop
Motley. 2 vols. With Illustrations. (Murray.)
OF all great statesmen and patriots John of Barneveld
stands in the foremost rank of the most illustrious and
the most unfortunate. The prince (Maurice) whom he
raised to greatness, and his country which he had mainly
helped to freedom and prosperity, alike basely betrayed
him. He opposed the evil ambition of Maurice, and he
advocated freedom of trade and universal religious tole-
ration. Maurice judiciallyjnurdered him, and Barne-
veld's jealous countrymen allowed (and so shared) the
crime. If his family and friends would have petitioned
for his pardon, he would have been saved ; but neither
he, nor those dearest to him, would tarnish his honour
by such a confession of offence ; and he was beheaded
for no particularly denned crime. Mr. Motley's name
is sufficient warrant that this work is worth reading.
Records of the Past, Vol. I., edited by Dr. Birch,
(Bagster & Sons), is an interesting volume of trans-
lations of Babylonian and Assyrian inscriptions by Sayce,
Talbot, Smith, Rawlinson, and Renouf. Students in
Biblical history and archaeology will find some pleasant
recreation in these texts, which have been extracted
from tablets, with cuneiform characters, found in lands
conterminous to Palestine. Some of the inscriptions are
of extreme antiquity, one reaching back to ante-Mosaic
history. They are invaluable, not only from their
intrinsic worth, but as affording evidences of the
durability of language subject to little alteration during
a period of many centuries. Sir H. Rawlinson's inde-
fatigable labours in copying the inscriptions respecting
Darius, the son of Hystaspes, lend an additional interest
to the attractive Persian records collated by Dr. Birch.
We look forward to the appearance of the second volume.
Dictionary of Sects, Heresies, Ecclesiastical Parties, and
Schools of Religious Thought. Edited by the Rev.
John Henry Blunt. (Rivingtons.)
A WHOLE library is condensed into this admirable volume.
Adams's Religious World Displayed is extinguished by
it. Marsden's Dictionary of Christian Churches and
Sects, useful as it is, only does a portion of the work
achieved under the editorship of Mr. Blunt. All
authorities are named, and an invaluable index is supplied.
The work manifests the earnestness of humanity in its
thirst for truth and its desire for light. The work has
its amusing side; at least, one cannot read without a
smile Archbishop Manning's former denunciations of
the Pope as an impostor and disturber, and of Popery
as a snare and a delusion, made when he was a High
Churchman.
Anecdote Lives of the Later Wits and Humourists.
Canning, Captain Morris, Curran, Coleridge, Lamb,
Charles Mathews, Talleyrand, Jerrold, Rogers, Albert
Smith, Hood, Maginn, Thackeray, Dickens, Poole,
Leigh Hunt, Father Prout, &c. By John Timbs,
F.S.A. 2 vols. (Bentley & Son.)
HALF a century ago there was a little work published,
called Laconics; or, the Best Words of the Best Authors,
which was deservedly popular. It was Mr. Timbs's first
work of compilation, and he is devoted to similar labour
now, with all the good-will, and, seemingly, with the
vigour of youth. In these anecdote lives there is the
best essence of a score of biographies, and every page
sparkles with anecdotes. We should be glad to hear that
some share of the fund provided by Parliament for the
solace of aged writers had been allotted to this inde-
fatigable worker. As it is, the fund seems to be often
applied after an incomprehensible fashion.
The Folk-Lore of Rome. Collected by word of mouth
from the People. By R. H. Busk. (Longmans.)
THIS is one of the most readable of books for those who
take interest in folk-lore. We know how Cinderella
comes to us from Rhodope, the Lady of the Pyramid.
So, from remote resources, many of these tales have
passed through various countries, taking their tone from
the soil, and finally settling at Rome. The notes are
brief and interesting ; and they pleasantly illustrate life
and manners. For instance : " Speziale, a druggist
(droghiere is a grocer). It is a- custom in Rome for the
doctors of the poor to sit in druggists' shops ready to bo
called for." Young and old readers are equally well
provided for in this handsome and entertaining volume.
The Treasury of Languages. A Rudimentary Dictionary
of Universal Philology. (Hall & Co.)
THE epigraph on the title-page of this rudimentary dic-
tionary is " Daniel iii. 4," the pertinency of which we
fail to discern. As far as this commencement goes, it
deserves encouragement. Some people will be aghast at
the multitudinous languages and dialects in the world.
Mezzof'anti himself, probably, could not speak a word of
Pumpopolsk, which is described as "Ugrian, a dialect of
Ostiak, allied to Inbosk."
CANTONAL LEGISLATURES IN ENGLAND. — Mr, Francis W.
Newman1 has proposed the following scheme for a sort of
new Heptarchy, each division of which is to legislate for
itself. After speaking of details, he says, —
" I ask permission to define this scheme by an actual
plan of grouping the English counties. If London is to
be a separate legislature, this may be a reason for not
joining into one rural legislature the counties which are
on opposite sides of it. I propose, then, for England
seven rural circles : —
" I. (Transumbria) centre York : containing North-
umberland, Durham, and Yorkshire.
" II. (Transdevia) centre Lancaster : Cumberland,
Westmoreland, Lancashire, Cheshire.
" III. (Cisumbria) centre Peterborough : Lincoln,
Nottingham, Leicester, Rutland, Huntingdon, Cam-
bridgeshire, Norfolk, Suffolk.
"IV. (Mesanglia) centre Worcester: Derbyshire,
Staffordshire, Warwickshire, Herefordshire, Monmouth-
shire, Gloucestershire.
"V. (Transtamia) centre Bedford: Northamptonshire,
Oxon, Buckinghamshire, Bedfordshire, Hertfordshire,
Middlesex (without London), Essex.
" VI. (Albion) centre Guildford : Kent, Surrey (with-
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out London), Berkshire, Hants (with Isle of Wight),
Sussex.
"VII. (Wessex) centre Exeter: Wilts, Dorset,
Somerset, Devon, Cornwall. F. AY. NEWMAN."
It is worth noting in " N. & Q."that the above scheme
was ever proposed.
A LETTER signed Andrew Agnew, and dated from
Lochnaw Castle, Stranraer, N.B., 22nd December, 1873,
has just reached " N. & Q." The writer is trying to
collect in a systematic manner information as to Galloway
antiquities and customs. He will be glad to receive any
information on camps, mote hills, old castles, churches,
chapels, burying grounds, standing stones, kists, urns,
Celts, arms, bones, coins, or any ancient remains ; cranoges,
or artificial island dwellings, with particulars as to wood
"found in mosses ; also names of places and their deriva-
tions ; those illustrative of traditions, as Lochnafolie
(Loch-na-fola, the Lake of the Blood) ; the former ap-
pearance of the country, as Khockaldie (the Hill of the
Hazels) ; those to which " Kil " is prefixed, indicating a
chapel, and endeavour to account for it in cases such
as Kilquhockadale, Kilhern, £c. Natural history, and
especially animals now extinct, as Craigmoddie (the
Wolf's Rock) ; Brockloch (the Badger's Lake); and finally,
county stories, or songs of local origin, old customs, and
proverbs. Answers to be sent to the address above
given.
MR. H. W. HENFREY, 14, Park Street, Westminster,
writes: — "Seal of the Protector Oliver's Council. —
George Vertue, in his account of the Works of Thomas
Simon, 4to., London, 1753, engraves (plate xxv.) and
describes (p. 42) this seal ' as affixed to an Order sent to
Guernsey by Oliver CromwelJ.' It is circular, If inches
diameter, bearing a garnished shield with the Protector's
Arms (Quarterly, 1st and 4th, St. George's cross ; 2nd,
St. Andrew's cross; 3rd, the Irish harp. Over the
centre an inescutcheon, bearing a lion rampant). The
shield is surrounded by a laurel wreath, and the legend
SIGILLTM CONSILII. I should feel extremely indebted to
any reader in Guernsey or elsewhere who could assist me
in obtaining a cast of this seal for publication in my
Numismata Cromwelliana ; or, Medallic History of
Oliver Cromwell, where it is intended to give autotype
copies of all his medals, coins, and seals."
M. HENRI TESTARD, M.A. B.D. (Pension Wachmurth,
2, Square de Champel, Plateau des Tranchees, Geneve,
Suisse), is engaged in writing a pamphlet on Theodore
Parker. He would be obliged to any of our readers who
would give him a complete list of Parker's works, and tell
him whether any book or magazine articles have ever
been published in England or America concerning that
renowned disciple of Channing.
BOOKS AND ODD VOLUMES
WANTED TO PURCHASE.
Particulars of Price. &c., of the following books to he sent direct to
the persons by whom they are required, whose names and addresses are
given for that purpose :—
COWES des Lettres Originales de 1'ArmC'e du General Bonaparte en
J.gypte. iuterceptCs par la flotte sous le Commandement dc 1'Amiral
Lord Nelson. London, printed for J. Wright, opposite Old Bond
Street. Piccadilly, 1799. 2 vols. or 2 parts.
Wanted by M . Ulric Richard Desaix, aux Minimes, a Issoudun, Indre,
France.
BERRY'S ESSEX PEDIGREES.
Wanted by G. J. Armytage, Eiq.,F.S.A., Clifton, Brighouse.
to
MR. G. L. GOMME, in reference to " Church Bells "
(4th S. xii. 6, 85, 406), writes :— " See notes of great value
in the following numbers of the Builder, 24th Sept.,
1864, 15th April, 1865, 6th Oct., I860, 2nd and 30th
June, 1866, 6th Oct., 1866, 15th Dec., 1866, 12th Jan.,
1867, 1st and 21st Aug., 1868, 30th May, 1868, 15th March,
1869, 4th and 25th Dec., 1869, 16th, 23rd, and 30th April,
1870, 7th May, 1870, 13th Aug., 1870. As there is no
index to the Builder, for the early years, these references
may be useful." Also, on " Paynter Stayner " (4th S. xii.
354, 453; 5th S. i. 118), MR. GOMME refers to "a good
article in the Builder for 9th June, 1860, where it is
stated the company had its origin in a fraternity of
artists formed in the reign of Edward III., and styled a
company, though not then incorporated." Finally, re-
ferring to " Size of Churches" (4th S. xii. 340, 367), the
same obliging correspondent states that there is a "tabu-
lar statement in the Builder for 31st Dec., 1864, by Mr.
E. B. Denison, and a further one by Mr. Samuel Sandars
in the Builder for 21st Sept., 1867."
LEINSTER GARDENS. — Mr. Andrew Cant (to whom is
sometimes ascribed the honour of having given his name
to the Slang Dictionary) was not an " illiterate man."
In Chambers's Domestic Annals of Scotland, iii. 621, is
the following account : — " On Thursday was interred in
the Grey Friars' churchyard, the corpse of Mr. Andrew
Cant, one of the ministers of this city at the Revolution,
and since, made a bishop of the clergy of the episcopal
communion. He was esteemed a learned and eloquent
preacher. He died in the ninety-first year of his age,
and sixty-fourth of his ministry." The above is quoted
from the Edinburgh Evening Courant, April 27, 1730.
In the Rudimentary Dictionary of Universal Philology
(1874, Hall) " Cant " is denned as slang or vulgar speech,
derived from the Latin " Canto "==I sing. See Life of
Bamfylde Moore Carew, London, 1789.
G. F. S. — How the name was pronounced in England,
in former times, may be judged from a line in Shakspeare,
where it is a trisyllable : —
" This dreadful lord,
Retiring from the siege of Orleans," &c.
LT. REG. — We really cannot undertake to explain the
inexplicable lines of unintelligible poets. As Socrates
said, to deal with such passages, when the poets them-
selves were not present to give light to them, was a mere
waste of time.
MR. R. PASSINGHAM writes : — "At one of the recep-
tions given to Mr. Disraeli at Glasgow, the Disraeli arms
are stated to have been placed on the walls. Can any
Scotch correspondent oblige me with a description of
them?"
GRAM. — "Jemmy Twitcher" is the name of one of
the most cunning and treacherous highwaymen in The
Beggars' Opera.
W. ANDREWS (Hull). — See The Archaeological Journal,
vol. vi., p. 239, for an article on " The Gad Whip Service,"
by W. S. Walford, F.S.A.
MR. V. DE S. FOWKE, Oxford, asks what historical
character is meant by "Marmion Herbert" in ilr.
Disraeli's Venetia.
F. S. D.— Water-marks on'paper. See " N. & Q.," 2nd
S. vi. 434, 491 ; vii. 110, 265 ; viii. 77.
R. H.— The epitaph has been repeatedly printed.
W. H. — No reply has been received.
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
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LONDON, SATURDAY, FEBRUARY Zl, 1874.
CONTENTS. — NO 8.
NOTES:— Col- in Col- Fox, Col,Treeetour, <fcc., 141— Dante and
Tennyson : Parallel Passages, 142— The Wordsworths, 143—
George the First at Lydd, Kent— The Hindu Triad— The Irish
Peerage, 144— Order before Culloden— Ne Sutor, &c. — Fifty
Years Ago— Cacography — Charles I. : Account for his Inter-
ment— Forfarshire Song, 145— Donkey — Shotten Herring —
Ringleader — Abbreviated Place- Names— Norfolk Dialect —
" The Crown of a Herald King of Arms," 146.
QUERIES :— John Froben, Printer of Bale— Robert de "Wyclif
—Tomb of Witti-kind and Abbey built by Char-le-Magne at
TrSmoigne— Cotton's " Medley of Diverting Stories " — Monu-
mental Inscription, 147— Nicolas de Bruyn — Fothergill
Family — " Desier " — Haunted Houses—" Derbeth " — Bib-
liography—" The White Rose and Red " — " The Conversion
of CoL Quagg "— " The English Mercurie," 1588 —The Pass of
Finstermunz — "That beats Akebo" — "The Kalewala" —
Philip of Spain and the Order of the Garter, 148— Author
Wanted — The Sheriffs of Worcestershire — " Mistal " —
" Wisdom 's better than Money " — The Popish Plot—
"Quanto post Festum sol rubescit," <fcc. — "Abided" —
LL. M. Degree — A Negro Etonian — Agnes Bulmer and
" Messiah's Kingdom," 149.
REPLIES :— On the Elective and Deposing Power of Parlia-
ment, 149— A Second- First Climacteric, 152— William Combe,
Author of "Doctor Syntax" — Double Returns in Parlia-
mentary Elections, 153— "St. George's Lofte"— Bere Regis
Church— The Rhee— Early Circulating Libraries— " Enderby,"
a Tragedy — Use of Inverted Commas, 154 — Lithotomy —
" CalledHome" — "S" versus"Z" — " Jocosa"as a Christian
Name — Twelfth Day — The Establishment of Sunday News-
papers— "The Ten Ambassadors" — Greek Anthology —
Grahame, Viscount Dundee— The Insignia of the Knights of
the Garter at Windsor, 155— The Aspirate H— The Grey Mouse
in " Faust" — Martial's Epigram, xiii. 75— Mill on "Liberty"—
"From Greenland's icy mountains," 156—" Quillet " — " Like "
as a Con junction —The American Civil War— Charles Owen of
Warrington— " The Sea-Blue Bird of March"— Old Metrical
Title-Deeds, 157 — Innocents' Day: Muffled Peal — "To
Scribe " — Bulleyn's " Dialogue"— Sir John Burley, K.G., 158.
Notes on Books, &c.
COL- IN COL-FOX, COL-TREGETOUR, &c.
I suppose that there is no doubt that this
difficult prefix, in some of its uses, means false ;
and it is said to be allied to a verb CWere=deceive,
though I do not find any instance of such a verb
in that sense.
Col-prophet, for example, as used by Lillie and
others, means, evidently, a false prophet, and I
shall presently give other instances of a similar use ;
but whether it has this meaning in Chaucer's " Col-
fox," and " Colle tregetour" does not seem so certain.
The first phrase is written as follows in the
six-text edition published by the Chaucer Society: —
Ellesmere, "a colfox (ful of sly Iniquitee)" —
Nonnes Preests Tale, p. 294, 1. 4405 ; Hengwrt, "a
colfox"; Cambridge, "a col fox"; Corpus, "a
kolle fox"; Petworth, "a col foxe"; Lansdowne,
" a kole fox." The editions of 1532 and 1561 have
"a col foxe"; Wright's has "a cole-fox"; and
Morris's, " a colfox."
Now Coll may have been the name of a fox — so-
called, perhaps, from his cunning, or, perhaps, with
no meaning at all, any more than Reynard has a
meaning, or Pug for a fox ; Puss for a hare or cat ;
or Tom in Tom-cat and Tom-tit; or Robin in
Eobin-redbreast ; or Jenny in Jenny-wren and
Jenny-ass; or Jack in Jack-snipe, Jack-daw, or
Jack-ass ; or Neddy for the same beast ; or Billy in
Billy-goat ; or Nanny in Nanny-goat ; or Dicky in
the child's phrase Dicky-bird.
Was Col ever used for NicoZas instead of our
present diminutive Nick, as Col-in is in Italian,
or at least in Genoese ? If so, then, as many of
the above serve to distinguish the male from the
female, so may this.
But irrespective of the use of such names for
distinction of sex, people often choose to give
Christian names as a sort of generic name to things
or people. Thus Defoe, in Robinson Crusoe, makes
one of his Englishmen say, "And you, Seignior
Jack Spaniard, shall have the same sauce, if you
do not mend your manners"; and Jack Tar now-
a-days talks of " John Chinaman."
So, whether the name was given to the fox for
his cunning or for any other reason, it may have
come to be a synonym for fox, and to be used
either as a name or epithet for anything that was
fox-like in form or disposition, that was sharp-
nosed, or cunning, or treacherous, or false. Thus
Chaucer has in the same tale, 1. 4573, p. 298,
" Ran Colle owre dogge/ and Talbot and Gerland";
and the Scottish shepherd calls his fox-faced dog
a Coll-ie.
Gower, in his Vox Clamantis (Bk. I. ch. 11),
answers the query I have put above, using " Colle "
for " Nicholas," as he does Watte for Walter, Gibbe
for Gilbert, and the like : —
" Watte vocat, cui Thomme venitj neque Symme retardat,
Recteque Gibbe aimul Hicke venire jubent :
Colle furit, quern Geffe juvat, nocumenta parantes,
Cum quibus ad damnum Wille coire vovet."
Colle tregetour, in the House of Fame (p. 248,
1. 187, in Morris's edition, vol. v., Bell's Aldine
Series), may mean " cunning juggler"; but it may
quite as probably be, like Jack in Jacfc-Pudding,
a mere cant name for a juggler, and the passage
reads like it. It is not "a colle tregetour," but
" Ther saugh I Colle Tregetour," where Colle is like
Jack in Dr. Caius's " I vill kill de Jack Priest."
The Coil-prophets, or Coleprophets of Lillie,
Heywood, Knolles, Scot, and others, were doubt-
less those wolves in sheep's clothing, false prophets ;
and the Colepoyson of Heywood, and the Colknyfe
of the author of the Townely Mysteries, must carry
with them the idea of treachery.
Here you have them from the Dictionary slips of
the Philological Society, for which I am editing
part of "C":—
". . . . that he shulde nede to send ani such coll
prophetes as these heretikes are, to teache his church
the faithe." — 1532. Sir T. More, Confutation of Tyn-
dale, Works, 1557, fo. 707.
" . . . . established by such conjuring witches and
coleprophetes seduced by the lying spirit as was Merline."
— 1547. The Life of (he 70 Archbisshopp of Canterbury,
fo. c, 7 vo.
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5th S. I. FEB. 21, 74.
" Whereby I found I was the hartless hare,
And not the beast colprophet [false prophet, ed. 1610]
did declare."
1587. Mirrour for Magistrates. Owen Glendower.
" . . . . things written by Coleprophets upon whited
walls." — 1600. Letter in Harrington's Nugce Antiquce,
p. 11.
"As hee was most vainely persuaded by the cold
prophets."— 1603. Knolles, History of the Turks, 1014.
" Ye plaie coleprophet (quoth I) who taketh in hande
To knowe his answere before he do his errande."
1650. Heywood, Proverb Dialogues.
Part I. ch. 9, p. 17.
" Of Coleprophet
Thy prophesy poysonly to the pricke goth
Coleprophet and colepoyson art thou both."
C. 1650. Heywood's Epigrams, 6th cent., 89.
"If tkese cold-prophets, or oraclers, tell thee pro
speritie, and deceive thee." — 1665. Scot's Discovery of
Witches, sign. M. 8.
" All after the cheaters kind, the old cole instructeth
the young in the terms of his art."— 1532. Vse of Dice-
play. Percy Soc.
" God kepe us
*****
From alle byllehagers with colknyfes that go."
C. 1460. Townley, Mysteries Prima Pastorum,
p. 85.
Again, in the sense of being deceived instead of
deceiving, like the more modern words Cutty and
Gull:—
" We are no colls, you must not flam us."
1637. The Walks of Islington, Act ii. sc. 12.
Some have thought " Col," in " Col fox," to be
Coal, as we now spell it, and take it to be used
adjectively in the sense of black. But foxes aren't
black, especially this one, who, judging by his
name, was red : —
" And daun Kussell the Fox/ stirte up at ones."
L. 4524.
And even if they were black, it would not explain
the other uses.
Possibly " Col " might mean not coal-black but
coal-red, or fire-red, the colour of a live coal ; but
this is inconsistent with its use, as well in other
English words to be mentioned presently as in
this same word in German.
I think, therefore, there is much to be said for
those who read " Col " as meaning coal-black. It
has obviously this meaning in coalfish, coalrney,
or coalsey, the young of the black or green cod
(Germ. Kohlfisch), and there is also a fish called
the coal-perch. The little titmouse, called Cole-
tit, Coal-head, and Cole-mouse (Kohlmeise), has
its name.
Topsell, in his Four-footed Beasts, p. 174, has a
passage which connects the fox with coal : —
" Foxes which keep and breed towards the South and
West, are of an ash colour, and like to wolves, having
loose hanging hairs, .... and these are noted by two
names among the Germans from the colour of their
throat. One kind of them is called koler, whose throat
appeareth to be spinkled and darkned with cole-dust, so
as the tops of the hair appear black, the foot and etalk
being white.
" A third kind is of a} bright skie-colour (called
Blauwfuchs), and this colour hath given a different name
to horses, which they call Blauwschimmel, but in the
foxes it is much more mingled, and these Foxes which
have rougher and deeper hair are called Erandfuchse."
I find in Hilpert's Dictionary that Kohler means
— (a) the coalfish, (6) the brand-fox (brandfuchs);
but under Brandfuchs he gives no explanation.
Brand means, of course, a burnt-red colour ; and
I learn from Dr. Kissner that Brandfiichse are
foxes with black feet and ears, and black tips to
their tails ; but that others of a dark red, and
having white tips to their tails, are also so
called, and others also which are dark in colour,
but whose hair seems burnt.
Kohlfuchs — the very word in Chaucer — or
Kbhlenfuchs is another name for the same black-
marked fox ; and fuchs being used in German for
a sorrel horse, brandfuchs and kohlfuchs are used
for sorrel horses with black about them.
So, then, " Col," or " Cole," in Col-prophet, is
certainly false or cunning ; " Colle," in Colle trege-
tour, may be cunning, but is more probably a
name. " Colle," applied to the dog, is certainly a
name ; " Col," or " Cole," in Col fox may be cun-
ning, or may be a name, but is much more probably
coal, meaning black, or rather marked with black.
HENRY H. GIBBS.
St. Dunstan's, Regent's Park.
DANTE AND TENNYSON : PARALLEL PASSAGES.
It is interesting to notice the diverse manner in
which a similar train of thought has been put into
words by the great writers of every age and country,
especially by the poets, who have been the in-
terpreters to each successive generation of the pre-
valent ideas of their time.
The vanity of human wishes has been a favourite
theme with philosophical versifiers from Juvenal to
Johnson, but the ephemeral nature of fame — artistic
and literary — has not been so frequently sung. The
subject has, however, been treated, both by Dante
and Tennyson, in a manner not unequal to the
great powers of each of the poets. I propose to
bring before the readers of " N. & Q." the passages
in question. There can be no insinuation for a
moment entertained that the modern poet Lias
borrowed from the old. The parallelism is that
of thought rather than of language, yet in several
of the lines there is a remarkable similarity. No
doubt our Poet-Laureate is familiar with the
Divina Commedia of the great Florentine, and
there may have remained in his ear the ring of
the stately music of the Italian unconsciously
moulding his periods.
I will first give the passages from Tennyson, In
Memoriam, sec. Ixxvi. : —
" What hope is here for modern rhyme
To him, who turns a musing eye
On songs, and deeds and lives, that lie
Foreshorten'd in the tract of time 1
5th S. I. FEB. 21, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
143
These mortal lullabies of pain
May bind a book, may line a box,
May serve to curl a maiden's locks ;
Or when a thousand modns shall wane
A man upon a stall may find,
And passing, turn the page that tells
A grief— then changed to something else,
Sung by a long forgotten mind."
Again, in sec. Ixxii. : —
" We pass : the path that each man trod
Is dim, or will be dim, with weeds :
What fame is left for human deeds
In endless age 1 It rests with God.
O hollow wraith of dying fame,
Fade wholly, while the soul exults
And self infolds the large results
Of force that would have forged a name."
Let us now turn to the Tuscan poet, Purgatorio,
canto xi., 91-106 :—
" 0 vanagloria dell' umane posse,
Com' poco verde in sulla cima dura,
Se non e giunta dall' etati grosse !
*****
Non e il mondan romore altro che un fiato
Di vento, che or vien quinci ed or vien quindi,
E muta nome, perche muta lato.
Che fama avrai tu piu, se vecchia scindi
Da te la came, che se fossi morto
Innanzi che lasciassi il pappo e il dindi,
Pria che passin mill' anni? ch'6 piii corto
Spazio all' eterno, che un muover di ciglia,
Al cerchio che piu tardi in cielo e torto."
The parallelism, it will be seen, is rather in the
general tone of thought than in particular ex-
pressions, yet there are some lines remarkably
suggestive of each other. Compare —
" 0 hollow wraith of dying fame,"
with —
" 0 vanagloria dell' umane posse."
" What fame is left for human deeds "
with —
" Che fama avrai tu piti, se vecchia scindi."
" Or when a thousand moons shall wane "
with —
" Pria che passin mill' anni 1 "
" What hope is here for modern rhyme "
with —
" Com' poco verde in sulla cima dura ! "
" In endless age 1 it rests with God."
with —
" ch'e piu corto
Spazio all' eterno, che un muover di ciglia,
Al cerchio che piu tardi in cielo e torto."
I subjoin Gary's translation of the extract from
Dante : —
•' 0 powers of man ! how vain your glory, nipt
E'en in its height of verdure, if an age
Less bright succeed not
. . . . The noise
Of worldly fame is but a blast of wind
That blows from diverse points, and shifts its name,
Shifting the point it blows from. Shalt thou more
Live in the mouths of mankind, if thy flesh
Part shrivel'd from thee, than if thou hadst died
Before the coral and the pap were left ;
Or e'er some thousand years have past I and that
Is to eternity compared, a space
Briefer than is the twinkling of an eye
To the heaven's slowest orb."
Gary's translation is tolerably faithful ; but the
English blank verse sadly lacks the solemn musical
cadences of the Italian " terza rirua."
J. A. PICTON.
Sandyknowe, Wavertree.
THE WORDSWORTHS.
A neighbour of mine put into my hands, the
other day, some interesting papers and letters
about the Wordsworths, which I presume have not
been printed. One of the documents is a tiny
pamphlet, of ten pages, entitled " The Rents Bank
Mercury," dated July 19th, 1825, written in a
pretty printed hand. It is a bright little picture,
done in the old-fashioned newspaper way, of the
domestic life in the cottage where the Wordsworths
were then living. A couple of letters from Dora
Wordsworth, one from Miss Jewsbury, and a paper
containing a little branch of Hicberry, with this
inscription: —
" Gathered by the poet Wordsworth near the Solitarys
Glen in Langdale, as we, with two or three others, were
riding in a cart through some of the passes of Langdale."
These, with a letter from the poet, from which
an autograph hunter has cut the signature, with a
part of the letter itself, make up the collection. I
enclose a copy of one of the letters from Dora
Wordsworth : —
" Rydal Mount, Feb. 1st, 1827.
" My dear Miss Cookson,
" As it is so long since I have written to you, I feel
somewhat ashamed of troubling you with a few lines on
my own business ; but as I should be glad of a line from
you at any time, and always be most happy to be of use
to you in any way, I cannot help thinking you will be
the same. So without more ado, will you buy SIX-
TEEN SIXPENNY Dutch dolls and send them by the Canal
woman to Kendal. We have drained poor Kendal of these
articles ; so are now obliged to travel to the next town.
You may well wonder what the dear little Baby can want
with sixteen sixpenny dolls. They are to make pin-
cushions, and needle-books, and thread-cases of. And
Aunt Hutchinson wants some, and Miss Barlow, and Miss
Southey, who is staying with us, and Mrs. Luff. I have
made four or five already, and want six more. I intend
to send a pair to dear Miss Jewsbury. We have not
heard of her directly for some time, but from Miss Barlow
we were delighted to hear she was improving. I have
not written to her for ages ; indeed, I have been so far
from well since September, that I have done nothing but
make pincushions, sit on the sofa, and vide on my pony
with my Father by my side, and drink wine and eat
mutton chops of mother's cooking. I have not been
downstairs for the last week, having had a violent cold,
but I am thankful to say it has almost left me, and this
morning I feel perfectly well.
" We are all at home but my brother John. Willy is
well and good ; he is grown amazingly, and keeps up his
strength with it. I often think of the pleasant time we
spent at Rents Bank. I should like nothing better than
to pass another six weeks there next Summer, but this,
144:
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5th S. I. FEB. 21, 74.
I fear, won't be practicable. Aunt Wordsworth has not
yet walked herself to death, which I often tell her she
will do, tho' she still continues the same tremendous pe-
destrian. You have, I dare say, heard from Elizabeth
Cookson of poor dear Aunt Joanna's accident. We have
had no tidings very lately ; but her last letter was more
satisfactory, and written in excellent spirits. She likes
the ' Sweet Mona ' better and better every week. My
Father is very busy ; his Poems are going through a new
Edition ; they will be out, he hopes, in April. I am happy
to tell you his eyes are quite well, and he can read or
write by candlelight without any inconvenience. He is
indebted for this comfort to a young gentleman who was
here in the Summer, and advised him to apply the blue
stone to his eyes, which he did, with the desired effect.
" All here beg their kindest remembrances to yourself
and Mr. Cookson, and your sisters, and believe me ever
your faithful and affectionate
"DOHA WORDSWORTH.
' ' You must forgive this miserable production, but I
have quite forgotten how to write or express myself in any
decent manner. My dear little Doves are well, and coo
the day through."
ROBERT COLLYER.
Chicago.
GEORGE THE FIRST AT LYDD, KENT.
The following extract from the old register of the
parish of Lydd is cut from the Kentish Express and
AshfordNeivs of the 13th December, 1873, to which
it was sent by Mr. A. Finn, of Westbroke, Lydd :
" MEMORANDUM.
" That on ye 7 day of January, 1724, his majesty King
George ye first came from Rye to Lidd. In his way to
London from Hanover, he was driven to Rye by a storm
and landed on ye beach about Jews Gut, and walked from
there to Rye very much fatigued. He was detained there
till Friday by a deep snow ; he was received at Lydd by
ye Balif and Corporation over against Mr. Lees. The
trained band was under arms and lined ye street, ye bells
rang, a large ship's flag was displayed on ye great Pinnacle
of ye steeple, and ye great guns and small arms were fired
as his Majesty passed thro ye street.
"Mr. Baliff, upon ye stopping of his Majesties coach,
made him a short complement upon his safe arrival after
ye danger and feteague of ye storm, and then offered the
ensigns of his office, wch he was desired to keep for his
Majesties use.
" Immediately when Mr. Richd. Noble, then Balif, had
ended his complement, Mr. Henry Wood, then Curate,
began ye following speech to his Majesty : —
" ' May it please your Majesty,
« < •y^g your Majesties most dutiful, and loyal subjects,
ye Balif, Jurats, and Commoners, Minister, and Pa-
rishioners of your Majesties ancient Town and Corpora-
tion of Lydd, humbly beg leave, with hearts full of
gratitude to ye Divine Providence, wch hath preserved
yr. Majesty from ye iminent danger of ye seas, joyfully
to congratulate your safe arrival into ys, your Kingdom
of Great Britain, to wish yr. Majesty a safe and speedy
journey to your capital, and a long and happy reign over
a dutiful and affectionate People, a people who only want
to know yr. Majesty and their own happiness in order to
love your sacred person with ye most ardent affection,
and to return ye felicity they enjoy under yr. mild and
gracious administration with ye profoundest and most
cheerful obedience. There is yet one wish remaining
wch we reserve for ye last, because we know it is what
sits neardlt to yr. Royal heart, even yt it may please ye
Divine Providence to prosper yr. Majesties pious endea-
vours for ye protection and security of ye Protestant faith
abroad, to ye maintenance of true Religion, to ye just
confusion of superstition and tyranny, to the lasting
honour of yr. Majesties name, and ye brightening of ye
crown of Glory, yt awaits yr. Majesty in ye next life.
" ' May it please yr. Majesty, I have a very high sense
of ye great honour I now enjoy, but I am not at all for-
getful of ye rigour of the season, and therefore in tender-
ness to yr. Majesty I must do violence to my self by
putting an immediate stop to ye most -grateful of employ-
ments, yt of prayers and good wishes for ye prosperity of
yr. Majesty and ye Royal Family. But tho ye due con-
sideration of time and place obliges me to contract my
own happiness, my zeal for yr. Majesty and your Royal
Family shall always have its full scope elsewhere, even in
ye temple, in ye desk, ye pulpit, and at ye Altar, and
herein all considerate persons will in their several sta-
tions and capacities follow my example, as being intirely
convinced yt, whilst they are praying for your Majesty
and ye Royal Family, they are in ye most effectual
manner praying for ye continuance of their own preser-
vation and happiness.
"'I humbly hope yr. Majesty will be pleased graciously
to excuse a faltering tongue unable to express ye affec-
tion of a heart overawed by yr. Majesties presence.'
" Ld. Townsend said yt his Majesty vvas well pleased
with every part of ye speech, and so they drove on."
Perhaps it may be as well to insure the safety of
the above in "N. & Q.," for a remarkable instance
of how parish registers may • be mutilated came
within my own knowledge about thirty years ago.
I was then intimate with an old major, in the
East India Company's service, who was, at that
time, about seventy years of age. For some pur-
pose he wanted a certificate of his birth, which had
occurred in a parish in Ireland. When the parish
register was examined, the page on which his birth
would have been entered was found to have been
torn out of the book. This caused inquiry as to
who had had an opportunity of abstracting.it, and
ultimately the daughter of a former vicar, who was
fortunately still alive, confessed that, as the entry
of her birth stood next to that of the major, she
had, when a young woman, torn out the page and
burnt it, in order that no person might know her
exact age. RALPH N. JAMES.
Ashford, Kent. / +
THE HINDU TRIAD. — In these times of religious
controversy it may not be altogether uninteresting
to notice the curious coincidence, that in India,
while temples abound dedicated to the second and
third persons of the Hindu Trinity, none is known,
so far as I am aware (and I had a twelve years' local
experience, and have read many works on the
subject), of the first person, Brahma, or of the
Trinity in Unity, Brahm. SP.
THE IRISH PEERAGE. — By the death of Lord
Blayney, which happened on the 18th of January,
the Crown has the power of creating a fresh Irish
peerage.
The last appointment, that of the barony of
Rathdonnell,;took place in December, 1868, within a
5:h S. 1. FEB. 21, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
145
month of the Marquis of Hastings's death and the
extinction of his Irish honours. Since then, three
more peerages — being the number necessary to
give the Crown this prerogative — have become
extinct.
They are — 1. The Viscounty of Strangford, in
January, 1869 ; 2. The Barony of Howden, in
October, 1873 ; and 3. The Barony of Blayney, in
January, 1874.
The Government, if they wish an appointment
to please the Irish (Home Eulers and their
opponents), should advise that an Irish dukedom
be conferred on one of the royal princes.
E. PASSINGHAM.
ORDER BEFORE CULLODEN. — From an old news-
paper, The Bath Journal, for May 5, 1746, I send
this extract : —
" The following is a copy of the Rebels' Orders before
the Battle of Culloden, found in the Pocket of one of the
prisoners : —
" ' Parole.
" ' Roy Jaques.
" ' It is his Royal Highness's positive Orders, that every
Person attach himself to some Corps of the Army, and
remain with the Corps Night and Day, until the Battle
and Pursuit be finally over, and to give no Quarter to the
Elector's Troops on no Account whatsoever. This regards
the Foot as well as Horse. The Order of Battle is to be
given to every General Officer and every Commander of a
Regiment or Squadron.
" ' It is requir'd and expected of each Individual in the
Army, as well Officer as Soldier, that he keeps the Posl
he shall be allotted ; and if any man turns his back to
run away, the next behind such man is to shoot him.
" ' No Body, upon Pain of Death, is to strip the Slain, or
plunder, until the Battle is over. The Highlanders to
be in Kilts, and no Body to throw away their Guns.
" 'Sign'd, George Murray, Lt. Gen.' "
J. H. I. OAKLEY.
NE SUTOR, &c. — The principal manufacture o:
shoes in Scotland is at Selkirk, and the shoes there
are made by the " sutors," a name still given to
the burgesses, who qualify themselves by licking
the " birse," a brush of hogs' bristles, which is passec
from mouth to mouth. F. S.
Churchdown.
FIFTY YEARS AGO. — I remember, among the
humours of the time, a current example of apt
translation. An archbishop had sent a present o
fish to a friend — a bon vivant — who facetiously ac-
knowledged it thus : —
"En ! venit in disco piscis ab Archiepisco-
po non ponatur, quia nonreturn datur."
Translated, but whether by the archbishop or hi
friend, I do not recollect : —
" In a dish "I hop wasn't there
Came some fish V Because there was no beer.'
From the Archbish )
HERBERT RANDOLPH.
CACOGRAPHY, or, let me call what follows
abnormal spelling, of which I made a note on
•eading Ouida's work, Under Two Flags. ' I think
;hat was the volume. 62, honor, scepter ; 64,
uster ; 66, ascendency ; 71, saber; 80, marvelous j
85, odor ; 86, favor ; 87, succored ; 106, succor ;
L12, Brummagen ; 119, meager ; 125, quarreling,
rancor; 142, offense ; 150, theater ; 164, equaled;.
166, leveled ; 172, unrivaled ; 1T7, quarreled ; 179,
:entered ; 185, somber ; 232, fibers ; 239, plalanx ;
256, Eambrandt ; 268, 383, esprit du corps ; 31 8,, ,
defense ; 324, reveler ; 376, traveled ; 482,,
traveler. The above orthography is surely
eccentric, whether it be the printer's or the lady's.
FREDK. EULE.
CHARLES I. : ACCOUNT FOR HTS INTERMENT. — In
the Entry Book, No. 105, of the Protector Oliver's
Council of State (in the Public Eecord Office), page-
333, is the following order : —
" Thursday, 14th August, 1656.
" His Highness the Lord Protector present.
" Upon consideracon of the humble peticon of Thomas--
Herbert, Esqr, wth an accompt thereunto annexed, of
Two hundred twenty nyne pounds five shillings, dis-
bursed by him, and Cap' Anthony Mildmay, for ye in-
term' of the Late King, the sayd accompt hayeing been
examined and allow'd by Col. Thomas Harrison, The
Counsell doe approve of ye sayd accompt, and order yv
the same be allow'd."
I am not aware that the foregoing extract has
ever been printed, and if not, it may interest some
of your readers. The amount, 2291. 5s., exactly
agrees with that given on page 211 of Sir Thomas-
Herbert's account of the funeral of the king,
annexed to his Memoirs, &c., 3rd edit., 8vo.,.
London, 1815. After giving several of the
particulars of this bill, Herbert says (p. 213),,
" The Accompt being examin'd and proved, I had
a Discharge " ; although he does not give the date,
which we can now supply from the Council Entry-
Book, quoted above. It is curious that the order
is dated more than seven years subsequent to iho-
interment.
HENRY W. HENFREY, F.E. Hist. S., &c.
14, Park Street, Westminster.
FORFARSHIRE SONG.— The following is a more-
than usually successful imitation of old song. It
is taken from a MS., written in rustic hand, and
apparently about forty years old ; but I can say
nothing of its authorship : —
" Lord Spynie, ye may pu' the rose,
An' spare the lily flower,
When ye gae through the gardens green
To woo in lady's bower.
An' ye may pu' the lichtsome thyme,
An' leave the lanesome rue ;
For lang an' sair will the lady mourn
That ye gae there to woo.
For ye will look an' talk o' love,
An' kindly, kindly smile,
An" vow by grace an' a' that 's gude ;
An' lay the luring wile.
'Tis sair to rob the bonny bird
That maks yon melodic ;
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[5th S. I. FEB. 21, 74.
'Tis cruel to win a woman's love
An' no hae lojre to gi'e.
I wadna hae your wilfu' hand
Tho' a' the earth were thine.
Ye 've broken mony a maiden's heart,
Ye 've mair than broken mine.
I wadna hae your faithless heart —
It 's no your ain to gi'e ;
But gin ye ever think o' heaven,
O ye man think o' me ! "
W. F. (2).
DONKEY : —
" Palmer told me that in the wild country to the East,
where the slaves come from, and the natives of which
are called Donkos or 'the stupid' (Barbaroi), dwelt a
people who did not believe in the existence of the soul
after death, who laughed when they heard of such a
thing, and said that when a man was born he was born,
and that when a man died he was dead, and that then
there was an end of the palaver."
So writes Mr. Winwood Eeade, in his chapter
on Akropong, The African Sketch Book, vol. ii.,
pp. 128-9. The derivation of the word donkey has
been more than once discussed in " N. & Q." I
should like to add the suggestion that it comes
from donkos — stupid, to those previously made.
Some survivor of West Coast fevers may have in-
troduced the term into England, or it may have
been imported from the plantations in the other
hemisphere. ST. SWITHIN.
SHOTTEN HERRING. — Mr. Halliwell, in his Dic-
tionary (ed. 1850), gives us the meaning for this
term, " A gutted herring, dried for keeping ; meta-
phorically, a lean meagre fellow, a term of con-
tempt." Several illustrations follow. In Harris's
State of the County of Down (Dublin, 1744) I find
the following, in his chapter on the herring
fishery : —
"They [the herrings] are poor and weak after they
have spawned, and stay on our coasts some time to
recover strength. Such as are taken in that condition
are called shotten herring, and are not worth the expense
of salt and barrel. When they recover some strength
they go back to the Northern Sea, where they find
plenty of food fit for nourishing and fattening them."
W. H. PATTERSON.
Belfast.
KINGLEADER. — This -paragraph, from TJie Times,
of January 26, 1874, should have, I think, a place
in the columns of "N. & Q.":—
" THE WORD ' RINGLEADER.' — The Rev. J. Hoskyns-
Abrahall writes to us : — ' Lord Coleridge (see Law Report
in The Times, January 22) has mentioned, as justifying
his decision of a case, an instance of the word ' ring-
leader ' in no bad sense, the passage in which it occurs
being this : — ' It may be reasonable to allow St. Peter a
primacy of order, such a one as the ringleader hath in a
dance.' — Barrow's Treatise of the Pope's Supremacy.
Oxford edn. of Works, 1830; vol. vii., p. 70. There can be
added the following from Fox's Preface to Tyndall's
Works : — ' In the number of whom may rightly be ac-
compted, and no lesse recommended to the studious
Christen reader, these three learned fathers of blessed
memory, William Tyndall, John Frith, and Robert Barnes,
chief ringleaders, in these latter tymes, of thys Church of
England.' "
A. L. MAYHEW.
Oxford.
ABBREVIATED PLACE-NAMES. — The following
examples of these are within my own knowledge.
I should be glad to see the list extended : —
Amotherby (Yorkshire), Amerby.
Barfrestone (Kent), Bars'on.
Cirencester (Gloucestershire), Cicester and Ciciter.
Goodnestone (Kent), Godstone.
Leighton Beaudesert (Bedfordshire), L. Buezard.
Leominster (Herefordshire), Lemster.
Lilleshall (Salop), Linsell.
Pontefract (Yorkshire), Pomfret.
Pontesbury (Salop), Ponslury.
Trottescliffe (Kent), Trosley.
Uttoxeter (Staffordshire), Uxeter and Uxler.
Wednesbury (Salop), Widgebury.
Some of these abbreviations are oral only ; others
would be used also in writing. A. J. MUNBY.
Temple.
NORFOLK DIALECT. — One quiet morning in
summer, I heard a noise in the garden which
sounded like a woodpecker's tap. I asked what it
was, and was told that " It was nothing but the
mavish a knapping, of the dodmans." I was
obliged to request an explanation ; but it was not
till after many questions that I was able to under-
stand that my gardener only meant to tell me that
" The thrushes were breaking the snail shells." I
afterwards found that the word " knapping " had,
in that part of Norfolk, given the name to a once
profitable trade. The people employed in pre-
paring flints for the army before the invention of
percussion-caps were called "knappers."
FREDERICK MANT.
" THE CROWN OP A HERALD KING OF ARMS." —
In looking over that useful work, Heraldry, His-
torical and Popular (second edition, 1863), I have
observed a few omissions of a not altogether un-
important character, which I hope will be supplied
in the next edition. Amongst these, I may mention
the following : — 1. The origin and meaning of the
peculiar crown, above referred to. 2. The Lyon
(not " Lion," as elsewhere spelled by the authoi)
King of Arms, who is not noticed in the list of
Kings of Arms at p. 326, although the English and
Irish are. 3. The earliest instance of a " feather
badge" in England (King Stephen). 4. The
proper description of the " pheon," which is merely
styled "the barbed head of a spear or arrow,"
which it is certainly not, for it is peculiarly dis-
tinguished by the indentation of the inner edges
of its flanges. 5. The Broad Arrow, so conspicuous
amongst charges, is altogether unnoticed. 6. The
significance of the coronet of the Earl of Arundel
(1445), &c.
I own that these are but trifling errors ; but as a
compiler's labour, to a certain extent, is limited to ,
5* S. I. FtB. 21, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
147
utilizing the studies of others, we do him .a service
when we point out omissions, and do not seek to
disparage him. Another improvement that may be
suggested is marginal references to authorities,
and the sources of opinions expressed when not
original — not that we expect originality. SP.
[We must request correspondents desiring information
on family matters of only private interest, to affix their
names and addresses to their queries, in order that the
answers may be addressed to them direct.]
JOHN FROBEN, PRINTER, OF BALE. — In
" N. & Q." 2nd S. iv. 351, is a query as to the
name of a wood engraver whose works bear the
initials I. F., which called forth an interesting note
from the editor, assigning them to John Froben, of
Bale, better known as a printer. Of Froben, under
the Latinized name of Frobenius, there is a fine
portrait by Holbein in the collection of Mr. Thomp-
son, at Sheriff Hutton. The portrait is that of a
shrewd and intelligent man of middle age, in a
black dress trimmed with fur ; before him is a case
for type, much the same as those now in use, and
a small-sized ball, with which to put the ink on the
type ; behind him is a book-case with books on
the shelves : the whole highly-finished and in won-
derful preservation. At the foot of the picture,
on a sort of window-sill, is written (in one line),
" IOANNES . FROBENIVS . TYP . H. H-BEIN . P."
The picture is painted on an oak panel, and in the
centre of the back is beautifully cut, by some
expert wood engraver, a shield of arms, apparently,
or, a serpent erect wavy, surrounded by the collar
of the Order of the Saint-Esprit with the cross sus-
pended, and above the shield a ducal coronet.
These may be the arms of a former possessor of the
picture, and some of your correspondents con-
versant with foreign heraldry may be able to say
to what family they belong. There is also an old
wax seal in one corner, with I • H and what looks
like a coronet over the letters. I may add that
John Froben's books, as painted by Holbein, are
all represented with their fore edges outwards,
each with metal clasps, except one, which is tied
with silk. G. D. T.
EGBERT DE WYCLIF. — Can any one tell me
whether this Robert, of Kent, mentioned in the
following enrolment, was any relation to the great
Reformer, John Wyclif ? I also print this docu-
ment to keep before students the fact that in
Chaucer's time, villeins, and their children and
goods, were conveyed with estates as part of the
appurtenances to it : —
"18 June, 9 Ric. II., 1386. Conmtssiones, Lilere
patentes, & script1* recognita de termino Sawed Hillarij
Anno decimo [Ricardi II.].
" Kanct'a. Carta Roberti Wyclif clerici cogm'ta.
"Memorandum quod Johannes de Appleton
vem'< coram Baronibws. xxiiij die Febrwam hoc termino,
et exhibuit Curt'e quandam cartam petens illam irrotulari,
& Barones illam irrotulari perceperunt in hac verba.
Sciant presentes & futuri qwod ego Robertus de Wyclif,
clericus, dedi, concessi, & hac presenti carta mea con-
firmaui Johanni de Appleton & Elizabethe vxori ems*
Manerium meum de Dertford, ac omnia terras & tene-
menta, prata, pascua, pasturas, redditus & seruicia,
reuersiones & feoda, ac corpora villanorwm, cum
eorum catallis & sequelis, cum perkinentibus que ego &
predzctas Johawwes haJuimws de dono & feoffamento
Wittelmi de latymer domim de Danby in villis de Dertford,
Wylmyngton, Crayford, Stone & Darente in Comite
Kancte, Ha&endwm & tenendwm eisdem Johanni & Eliza-
bethe vxori eius,* & assignatis suis, de capitalibws
dom'nis feodi, per seruicia inde debita & consueta, im-
perpetuum. Et ego, predicts Robertus predi'ctam
Manerium, ac omnia terras, tenementa, prata, pascua,
pasturas, redditus, & seruicia, reuersiones & feoda, ac
corpora yillanorwm cum eorwm. catallis & sequelis, cum
pertinentibus, prefatis Johanni & Elizabethe vxori eius
heredibws & assignatis suis, contra omnes gentes
warrantizabo imperpetoiMm. In cuius rei testimonium
Huic presenti carte mee sigillum meum apposui ; Hiis
testibtw Galfrto*o Conale, Ricarcfo Martyn, Wille/mo
Bull, Roberto Hostiler, Willelmo Monce, & aliis.
Data apud Dertford, xviij die Junij Anno Regni Regis
Ricardi secwndi post conquestum Angh'e nono. Et super
hoc, predicts Robertus Wyclif, presens in Curia pre-
dicto xxiiij. die Febrwarii cognouit coram prefatis
Baronibws dt'cten cartam esse factum suum."
F. J. FURNIVALL.
TOMB OF WlTTI-KIND AND ABBEY BUILT BY
CHAR-LE-MAGNE AT TREMOIGNE, ON THE LEFT
BANK OF THE RHINE. — Collection des Romans
de Chevalerie mis en Prose Frangaise Moderne, par
Alfred Delvau, tome iii., Paris, 1869, Bibliotheque
Bleue.
Cologne and Tre'rnoigne on the left bank of the
Rhine.
Is Cologne called Tre"-Moigne from the skulls of
the three magi, Caspar, Melchior, and Balthasar,
said to be buried there ;t or are they different
cities to which distinct localities can be assigned ?
E.
COTTON'S "MEDLEY OF DIVERTING STORIES." —
Oldys (Biog. Brit. iii. 2061) mentions a Medley
of Diverting Sayings, Stories, Characters, &c., in
verse and prose, in quarto, which was written about
the year 1686 (as it was attested in another hand),
by Charles Cotton, Esq., the author of the second
part of Walton's Angler, and which was some time
in the library of the Earl of Halifax. Who is the'
present possessor of this volume ?
J. E. BAILEY.
MONUMENTAL INSCRIPTION. — In the parish
church of Blidworth, in Sherwood Forest, Notts,
is a dilapidated alabaster monument, with a border
of stags' heads, cross-bows, and other emblems of
wood-craft; in the centre the following inscription
* Qy. " et heredibus " left out.
f History of Germany, by Mrs. Markham, p. 123.
148
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5th S. I. FEB. 21, 74.
(which has been renewed on stone). What is its
history?
"" Heere rests T. Leake, whose vertves weere so kiiowne
In all these parts, that this engraved stone
Needs navght relate, bvt his vntimely end,
Which was in single fight : whylst youth did lend
His ayde to valor, hee wth ease orepast
Many slyght dangers, greater then this last.
But will-full fate in these things governs all.
Hee towld out three-score years before his fall,
Most of wh tyme hee wasted in this wood,
Much of his wealth, and last of all his blcocb
"1608. Feb. 4."
W. G.
NICOLAS DE BRUYN.— I have some old engrav-
ings by him (date 1600); are they scarce or
valuable? They are Scriptural subjects, Garden
of Eden, &c. ALLOWAY.
FOTHERGILL FAMILY.— Wanted information as
to the following: —
Sir George Fothergill, a Norman baron and
general to Duke William's forces at the taking of
the city of York; mentioned by Drake in his
Eboracum. Sir George Fothergill, one of the
officers at Flodden Field ; this most particularly
desired. Sir William Fothergill, standard-bearer
at Solway Moss ; mentioned by Burns in his His-
tory of Westmoreland. JOHN FOTHERGILL.
The Botelers, Newton, Sudbury, Suffolk.
" DESIER." — Have any of your correspondents
•ever come across this name (of a woman) ? I have
had it before me to-day, and feel anxious to know
its meaning. It is American, I think.
J. WAINHOUSE SIMPSON.
Point de Galle.
HAUNTED HOUSES.— I should be very glad if
any of your readers could furnish me with par-
ticulars of a house, now pulled down, that formerly
stood in Lavington, near Devizes. I think it was
once the parsonage. I am also seeking for par-
ticulars of any legend respecting Stapleton or
Stepleton Castle, near Presteign, Herefordshire. I
have heard many weird tales of both these places,
and should now be thankful for any authentic in-
formation about either of them. UMBRA.
" DERBETH." — This word occurs as the name
of a farm in the Lowlands of Scotland. Can any
of your philological contributors indicate a probable
derivation ? >A.
BIBLIOGRAPHY. —
The Historic of France. The first four books
Printed by John Windet. 1595.
Who was the author ?
Printed in Saxon type by
Is this the first book printed in Saxon type ?
A Prognostication for the Year of our Lord God, 1569.
ctised in Salisbury, near unto the Close by Master
Henry Lou, Doctor in Phisike. Imprinted bv Thomas
Marshe.
Would this be considered a Salisbury book ?
B. W. B.
" THE WHITE ROSE AND BED."— Who is the
author of this clever poem ? It has been attributed
to Mr. William Allingham, and also to Mr. Bret
Harte ; but on no other grounds than certain
similarities of diction. JABEZ.
Athenaeum Club.
"THE CONVERSION OF COL. QUAGG."— When
and where did the above story (I think, by Sala)
first appear ? D. C.
York.
" THE ENGLISH MERCURIE," 1588. — Who were
the authors of this remarkable literary fraud?
D'lsraeli suspected that it was " a' jeu d' esprit of
historical antiquarianism, concocted by Birch and
his friends the Yorkes." Has this opinion ever
been corroborated or disproved ? The circumstances
of the case are probably too well known to most of
your readers to need recapitulation here ; but to
those to whom they may not be known, it will
only be necessary to refer them to a late edition of
the Curiosities of Literature, that work having
passed through eleven editions before the decep-
tion was found out. MEDWEIG.
THE PASS or FINSTERMUNZ. — What 'event of
importance has ever taken place in this Pass, which
is in the Rhsetian Alps between Switzerland and
the .Tyrol, ten miles north of Glurns ? I have
failed to find it in any book of reference.
S. H. Y.
"THAT BEATS AKEBO" OR "ACHEBO" (CH
hard). — My mother has often told me that her
mother, who died about 1835, a clergyman's wife,
was accustomed to use, as an expression of astonish-
ment, this phrase. Can any of your readers
enlighten me as to its meaning or derivation ? I
suspect it is a corruption from the French. L.
Oxford.
" THE KALEWALA." — Is there any English trans-
lation, prose or verse, of this work ? I am awa*3
of the article by Oxenford in the Temple Bar
Magazine. F.
Oxford.
PHILIP OF SPAIN AND THE ORDER OF THE GAR-
TER.— The question as to whether the insignia of
the Order of the Garter were presented to Philip
of Spain on board his ship, or after his landing
at Southampton, is one of the minor points of
history which remain doubtful, for the Earl of
Shrewsbury's expression, as cited by Mr. Froude,
" on his coming to land," does not clearly indicate
whether it was before or after the landing. Is
there any authentic account of the ceremony which
would settle the question ? Perhaps some of your
5th S. I. FEB. 21, 74.]
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149
readers in these days of minute research may be
nble to answer. T. A.
AUTHOR WANTED. — In a Dutch play, entitled
Melibea, Treur-bly-ende-spel, printed at Amster-
dam, 1618, occurs a long passage in English verse.
I am anxious to discover whether these lines are
taken from any English poet, and transcribe the
first eight in the hope that some of your readers
may recognize them. Some of the words seem to
be rather obscure, but this may be due to the errors
of the Dutch printer: —
" Ah inward creys put up a bitter roule
'Tis love that is imprinted in my soule
With beautes scale, and vertue faire disguis'de
Although Anchrys, alas is now disprys'de
Wrong sturres remorsed greef, griefes deadly sore,
But yet the more she frownes I love the more
And reason can this passion not remove
Where lore drawes hate, and hate engendreth love."
F. S. A.
THE SHERIFFS OF WORCESTERSHIRE. — Can any
one furnish the names and addresses of these for
the years 1778, 1779, 17801 Who was sheriff for
1825 ? Of two lists, one gives the name of T. S.
Vernon, Esq., Shrawley; the other, that of Sir
Thomas Phillips, Bart., Middle Hall. Which is
correct 1 MONTE DE ALTO.
" MISTAL." — What is the probable derivation
of this word, in common use here for a cow-house?
It is so spelled in legal papers I have seen, but
Halliwell gives it as mirsel, and limits it to York-
shire only. Is it known in other parts of England ]
T. M. FALLOW.
Chapel Allerton, Leeds.
"WISDOM'S BETTER THAN MONEY; or, the
whole Art of Knowledge, and the Art to know
Men. Written by a person of quality ; and left
as a legacy to his son. London, 1698." — Who
was the author 1 ED. MARSHALL.
THE POPISH PLOT. — Bound in a volume of early
book-sale and other catalogues, I have the first
two leaves of —
"A compleat Catalogue of all the stitc'h Books and
single Sheets Printed since the First Discovery of the
Popish Plot (Sept. 1678) to January 1679-80."
I should like to know the printer's name and
date of this, also what leaves are wanting, and if it
is of any degree of rarity. GEORGE POTTER.
42, Grove Road, Holloway, N.
" Quanto post Festum sol rubescit
Tanto .... frigus crescit."
Would any of your readers enable me to fill up
this old saying in monkish Latin, which I re-
member to have heard in former days 1 I do not
remember either line correctly, and should be
grateful for the information, peculiarly appropriate
to this season. J. W. WALLER.
" ABIDED." — Can the use of this word instead
of " abode " be justified 1 I am surprised to see it
used by Sir Arthur Helps, in his recent book,
Some Talk about Animals. At p. 144, I find,
" but when he had chosen it, he abided by it " ;
and again, at p. 161, " they had the satisfaction of
having abided by their principle." C. B. M.
LL.M. DEGREE. — I have just taken this com-
paratively new degree at Cambridge, and, like
many others, I am anxious to know whether there
is a distinctive hood. I am told that I may wear
the usual M.A. hood, but I rather object to this,
as white is certainly not a law colour. It seems
that the proper hood should be black lined with
blue. If there is not such a hood, has the Vice-
Chancellor, or the Eegius Professor of Law,
power to grant one ? The question is important
to many clergymen who have taken the degree in-
stead of M.A. I believe there is no degree like
it in any other University. •
JOHN CHURCHILL SIKES.
A NEGRO ETONIAN. — The story is going round
the papers, that a negro, Elliot, born in Massa-
chusets, and now in Congress, a representative of
South Carolina, was educated at Eton, England,
which I very much doubt. Can any one tell me
whether he was so or not ? Nearly every so-called
negro, who is pushed forward, is said by the admi-
nistration papers to have had a first-class education
in France or England, and to be an " elegant
gentleman"; but this is the first I remember to
have seen " located," and would like to be able to
deny it authoritatively, if possible. F. H. D.
Louisville, Ky., U.S.A.
AGNES BULMER AND "MESSIAH'S KINGDOM."
— I shall be grateful for any information about the
life, and literary work, and reputation of Agnes
Bulmer, authoress of Messiah's Kingdom, a long
foem, in twelve books (London, Eivingtons, 1833).
t is spoiled by digressions and wretched lyrics
dragged in to the supposed relief of the ordinary
heroic measure, which is, however, itself fairly done
in every way. I think it would still be read with
pleasure by those who are fond of such religious
writing, for, though tedious to the general reader,
James Montgomery noticed it with some praise,
and, moreover, declared it to be the longest poem
by a lady in any language that he was acquainted
with. J. H. I. OAKLEY.
ON THE ELECTIVE AND DEPOSING POWER
OF PARLIAMENT.
(4th S. xii. 321, 349, 371,389,416, 459; 5th S. i. 130.)
(Concluded from p. 131 J
W. F. F., in the second part of his paper in
reply to mine (p. 389), urges that " the notion that
our sovereign's title to the crown was ever derived
from her coronation is an entire error ; the corona-
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5th S. I. FKB. 21, 74.
tion was only a solemn recognition of a right already
vested." He supports this by instancing Henry III.,
Edward I. and II., and winds up by stating that
" those who had it (i. e., an hereditary title) were
at once recognized as having it." In my view, of
course, coronation was the completion of the act of
election ; to the choice of the people the sanction
of the Church was given. I conceive that I am
justified in this by the constant practice in the
chroniclers of calling the king-elect " dux," " domi-
nus," or something like it, before the rite of coro-
nation.
(1) Henry II. Hoveden (i. 213) says, " Henricus,
dux Normannorum .... coronatus, et in regern
consecratus a Theobaldo," &c. So too Matthew
Paris (i. 299).
(2) Kichard I. is called " Count of Poictou," then
" dux Normannorum," and not " rex " till his
coronation (v. Hoveden, iii. 3 ; Matthew Paris, ii. 3,
iii. 208 ; and Benedict of Peterborough, ii. 73).
(3) So too as regards John. (Matthew Paris, ii.
78, iii. 219).
(4) An interval occurs between John's death
and the occasion when (Matthew Paris, ii. 195) the
chronicler says the chief men came together " ut
Henricum in regem Angliae feliciter exaltarent."
(5) Edward I. The Annals of Worcester (Annales
Monastici, iv. 462) call him "dominus" till his
return and coronation, and even W. F. F. has to
allow that " he then began to reign," i. e., from the
time of his father's funeral, not of his death. And
the Chronicon Monasterii de Melsd (ii. 160) speak
of Edward as " dictus Edvardus " till his coronation,
when the royal title is first given to him.
(6) Edward II. The last-named authority (p.
279) calls Edward II. " dominus," and then adds
" coronatus est in regem."
On the whole question I may refer to Allen's
Royal Prerogative, 46 seq. (My references are all
to the editions in the Rolls Series).
Thus, I think, I have disproved this statement
of W. F. F. as to the effect of coronation. I pro-
pose to treat the two instances, as yet discussed by
him, with greater minuteness in a second paper,
i. e., Edward II. and Richard II.
MR. PURTON (p. 459) asks me in which of his
works Pole said " populus regem creat." I got the
fact from Mr. Froude's History (iii. 34). He there
discusses the De Unitate Ecclesia of Pole, in which
this phrase occurs. I beg to thank him for the
two valuable witnesses he brings on my side. The
whole subject is well worth being discussed, as it
involves the question of how far the powers of the
Parliament extend, a point which is of great pre-
sent interest. W. A. B. C.
P.S. — Since writing the first part of my reply
to the arguments of W. F. F., I have come across
a very weighty authority on my side — Sir Harris
Nicolas in his Chronology of History (in Lardner's
Cabinet Cyclopedia). He discusses the question
of coronation, not from a constitutional point of
view, but with sole reference to accurate chronology
(pp. xv. 284 seq.). His conclusion is that, " from
the reign of John to that of Edward VI., the
several reigns did not commence until some act of
sovereignty was performed by the new monarch
(generally the ' proclamation of his peace '), or until
he was publicly recognized by his subjects ; and
that in the cases of the first eight kings after the
Conquest, their reigns did not begin till . . . the
coronation." He supports this opinion by citations
from Mr. (now Sir Thomas) Duffus Hardy's Intro-
duction to the Close Rolls, Tyrrel's Sibliotheca,
Politico,, Allen's Royal Prerogative, L'Art de
Verifier les Dates, and an essay by Mr. Thomas
Astle, F.S.A. He then goes on to discuss each
reign separately with great learning.
To come now to the particular case of Edward II.
(1.) In the account of the proceedings given by
the Chronicon Monasterii de Melsd, it is asserted
that "factum est Parliamentum apud Londonias"
and that this Parliament deposed (" ulterius non
regnare ") Edward and elected his son. The king
resigns his crown "sperans filium suum post se-
regnaturum"; " quo facto apud Londonias publicato-
statim definitum est per onines regni nobiles, quod
films pro patre ad regni regimen admitteretur."
Again when describing the coronation, the
chronicler says " deposito Edwardo a regni regimin«
films suus. . . electus est in regem"; and the
coronation follows.
(2.) Capgrave in his Chronicle speaks as follows :
— " And then (i. e. at London) begunne a Parle-
ment the next day after the Epiphanie, where was
concluded be alle the lordes, that the king was
insufficient to govern the people : wherefor they
chose the Prince to be kyng." But the prince
refuses the crown; "he made his avow to God that
he schuld never take the crowne with oute his
fader consent." Capgrave then continues thus:
" Than, be the decre of the Parlement thei sent
to the kyng, 2 bischoppis, 2 herlis, 2 abbotes,
4 barones, and of every schire of Ynglond, 3 Icnytes,
ivith btirgeis of othir tonnes to notifie to the kyng
the sentens of the Parlement; also that' he was
deposed and his son Edward chosen." The olu
king then in great grief resigned the crown. Cap-
grave adds, "in his (i. e., Edward III.) first yere
he wrote lettyres to alle the schiris in Ynglond
that his fader had resigned and he was chose bi the
comenauti of the reme for to be kyng."
(3.) Walsingham's account is very similar, espe-
cially as to the composition of the deputation.
This assertion of Edward's, coupled with his
declaration as prince (cited by W. F. F. without
reference) that he would not accept the crown till his
father had abdicated voluntarily, seems to be con-
clusive. Capgrave's testimony as to the composition
of the deputation justifies the inference that persons
of those degrees sat in the Parliament. Of course,
5th S. I. FEB. 21, '74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
151
to depose a king is always an extreme measure,
and almost necessarily accompanied by force ; but
the point is that Parliament was consulted before
the final step was taken, thus acknowledging its
power of deposition. Besides, to deny this power
is nothing less than denying the title of her
Majesty to the crown.
Now as to Richard II. W. F. F. contends that
because the title of the barons was hereditary,
that of the king was also ; this no doubt was so in
a perfectly organized feudal hierarchy ; but in Eng-
land the policy of the Conqueror prevented the
growth of perfect feudalism and preserved the
old national rights of the English, among them
that of choosing a king. Thus it came to pass
that after the Conquest the king occupied a double
position : he was the national sovereign and feudal
suzerain ; in the former case election, though
often formal, still went on ; in the latter allegiance
could be formally renounced. For to deny either
of these propositions lands one immediately in
that great bog of de facto and de jure claims, of
which the best example is the state of affairs in
1688.
W. F. F. too (p. 421) asserts the control of
Parliament over the king's ministers ; but, as far
as I am aware, the origin of ministerial responsi-
bility cannot be dated earlier than Edward IIL's
reign. The case of the Spensers is not in point,
for they were put to death not as royal ministers,
but as royal favourites.
As to Mr. Freeman's statement respecting 25
Edw. III. c. 2., W. F. F., it seems to me, strangely
misconceives the meaning of his expression " suc-
cession to the crown." Whether kings be elected
or reign by divine right, there is always a succession
to the throne ; and to confine it to the latter case
is absurd. Besides, Mr. Freeman's explanation of
the whole matter is the one which any careful
reader would arrive at, and which only the tech-
nical construction of a lawyer could deny.
W. F. F. quotes from the Close Rolls to prove
that Richard II. succeeded his grandfather at once;
but they merely assert that, Edward III. having
died on June 21, the great seal was given to the
king and bestowed by him on some one else, on
June 22. This is very different from the modern
theory, that when the king dies, his heir succeeds
at once, " le roi est mort ; vive le roi." Then, too,
when we consider who was the eldest male of the
royal house — Lancaster — and remember the violent
opposition to him in the last years of Edward III.,
and find that the first acts of Parliament were to
elect Peter de la Mare, Speaker of the Good Par-
liament, Speaker again, and to revive the prose-
cution against Alice Perrers, we must admit that
there were special reasons for the very remarkable
election of a child as king. Mr. Freeman himself
allows that the succession of Richard II. " marks
a distinct stage in the growth of the doctrine of
hereditary right " (Growth of English Constitution,
2nd ed. p. 219). We do not find any longer state-
ments as to the election of one king after another,
but only cases, growing rarer and rarer as we go
on, in which Parliament is called in to settle the
succession.
Technically, of course, king, lords and commons
are the three branches of the sovereign body of
England ; but, practically, power has always
rested with the two latter, and, I conceive, it is
the omission of the king's assent which is the
reason of Mr. Freeman calling the Parliament
which deposed Richard II. " in some sort irregu-
lar"; but this can only be a difficulty to lawyers,
and I should think that even they would rather
give up all their technicalities than sacrifice the
welfare of the kingdom to their professional pre-
judices.
(1.) Walsingham gives a good account of all the
proceedings ; he speaks of the writs sent out " sub
nomine Ricardi regis," and says, that after his
resignation Richard added, " quod desideravit ut
dux Lancastrite succederet sibi in regno ; sed quia
hoc in potestate sud non erat. . . ."; thus clearly
allowing the superior authority of Parliament.
Walsingham adds that " quoniam videbatur cunctis
regni statibus quod illse causa? (i. e., the list of
articles of accusation) erant sufficientes et notoriaB
ad deponendum eundem regem." Sentence was
given against him ," per pares et proceres regni
Anglice spirituales et temporales, et ejus regni com-
munitates, omnes status ejusdem regni reprcesen-
tantes"; for this reason, and the king's confession
of incapacity, "ipsum Ricardum. . . . merito
deponendum pronuntiamus, decernimus et decla-
ramus."
He adds, as to Lancaster's claim that " postquam
quidem vindicationem tarn Domini spirituales
quam temporales, et omnes regni status concesse-
runt unanimiter, ut dux prsefatus super eos reg-
naret "; and that the Archbishop of York preached
on the text " vir dominabitur in populo (I. Samuel
ix. 17, A. V.)
(2.) Capgrave and (3.) Contin. Eulog. Hist.
describe the deposition in very much the same way.
Mr. Hallam, too, thinks that it was a " national
act and should prevent our considering the Lan-
castrian kings as usurpers of the throne," and that
"it was one of those cases of extreme urgency
which leave no security for the common weal but
the deposition of the reigning prince." His com-
parison of the revolutions of 1399 and 1688 has
become classical ; he ends it by the following very
remarkable confirmation of the theory, which I am
upholding, " in this contrivance (i. e., issuing writs
for Parliament returnable in six days) more than
in all the rest, wt may trace, the hand of lawyers.''
The renunciation of Richard was supplemented by
a solemn deposition founded on specific charges of
misgovernment.
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NOTES AND QUEKIES.
[5th S. I. FEB. 21, 74.
It does not seem to me that the violence in this
case, so much insisted on by W. F. F., was any-
thing more than is the almost necessary accom-
paniment of the exertion of the highest power of
the Parliament ; and the degrading .Richard's
adherents was very natural indeed.
No doubt, Kichard was in duress and his abdi-
cation was null : this was felt, and hence the solemn
sentence of Parliament ; but the Parliament was
free, for all men were disgusted with the failure
of the fair promise of Richard's youth, and only
waited for a leader to rise against him. Then,
when Henry had obtained the crown, his discon-
tented adherents went over to the remains of
Richard's party. It is what always happens at
such crises, e. g., the Presbyterians joined the
Episcopalians to restore Charles II. in 1660.
W. F. F., by the branding of Henry IV. by
Parliament, probably means what took place in
the first Parliament of Edward IV. ; but then the
country had just been going through a prolonged
civil war, whereas Henry IV. 's so called usurpa-
tion was the result of a very short struggle, and
sanctioned by a Parliament, which was a much
truer representative of the nation than that of
1461. The internal troubles under Edward IV.
were much greater than those under Henry IV.
Thus, I believe thab the parliamentary title of
Henry IV. was never reversed by a true Parlia-
ment ; and, even granting the validity of this
reversal, it, in turn, was reversed in the first year
of Henry VII.
I conceive that I have made out my case with
regard to Edward II. and Richard II. ; but I shall
be very happy to consider any criticisms, and
await with great impatience W. F. F.'s special
pleading in the great cases of Charles I. and
James II. W. A. B. C.
Though it is but a trifling matter, I may venture
to remind W. F. F. that there is no mistake (5th
S. i. 4) in calling Lionel the third son of Edward
III. William, who died an infant, was the second.
C. F. S. WARREN, M.A.
A SECOND-FIRST CLIMACTERIC (5th S. f. 88.)—
Had the Lancet correspondents looked into a
Greek Lexicon or Testament, and one or two other
old books, including Sir Thomas Browne's Pseudo-
doxia, they might have avoided some vulgar errors.
AeirrepoTT/DcuTw shows that the writer was thinking
of its occurrence, in St. Luke vi. 1, as the first
Sabbath after the second [day of unleavened bread].
Hence he would use it in its proper signification of
the first of something after the second of something
else ; and, though he rather bungled his phrase, it
is pretty plain that he meant the first [year] after
the second [climacteric year]. Anno climacterico 8.
to be the true analogue of ev o-a/3/3aTw 8. should
mean in the first climacteric year after'his second
[natural year, or year of his birth] ; but as that is
nonsense, we must fall back on the other.
To the question, what is the second climacteric
year ] there may be two answers, but I apprehend
that, unless to a caviller who harps upon the
uncertainty, there is but one. The climacteric
numbers were 7 and 9 ; so that, whether in days
or years,, the series 7, 14, 21, &c., were climacteric,
and so were 9, 18, 27, and all multiples of 9.
7 x 7 = 49 was an especial climacteric. 9x9
= 81 was one of the two grand climacterics; but
the other, the grand climacteric par excellence, was
63, because, being 7x9 and 9 x 7, it partook of
the virtues of both numbers. Sickness in this
year was especially feared, and in it, says Minsheu
— and doubtless very truly — " many worthy men
died." But the usual climacterics seem to have
been septennial (perhaps for astrological reasons,
and) because within such periods man's body and
mind were supposed to undergo changes more or
less complete. " For the dales of man are usually
cast up by Septenaries, and every seventh year
conceived to carry some altering character with it,
either in the temper of body, mind, or both."
(Browne's Vulgar Errors, b. iv. ch. 12, where are
some remarks on the subject beyond his age.)
These Septenaries, too, agreed with the ordinary
calculations of the periods of youthful life, and
with these periods only, for while " Adolescence,
Juventus, Senecta," and others would not fall in
with these series, the others did. Infancy without
teeth was said to last seven months : —
"Infancia, childhood that breedeth teeth endureth
and stretcheth seauen yeares Afterward commeth
y" second age y' is called Pueritia, childhood : which
dureth and lasteth other seuen year And after
that commeth the age that is called Adolescentia ....
and dureth the third seauenth yeare . . . . as it says in
Viatico. But Isidore sayth that it endureth to the fourth
seauen yeares But Phisitions account this age to
the ende of thirtie, or fiue and thirtie yeares." — Batman
vppon Bariholome, 1. vi. c. 1.
Hence, both because it was the more usual mode
of reckoning climacterics, and because the divisions
of childhood, boyhood, and sometimes of youth, were
so reckoned, the father would probably calculate
by seven-year periods, and note the exit of his
son, Henry Parson, as 7 + 7 + 1 = in his fifteenth
year. If, however, he reckoned by the double
series, 7, 9, 14, 18, &c., the boy would have been
in his 9 + 1, or tenth year. There is, I believe, no
authority for translating SeirrepOTrpwros as second-
first, whether = 9 or = 14.
B. NICHOLSON, M.D.
P.S. It has since occurred to me that the epitaph
writer, dwelling over much on a fancied double
analogy between the seventh, the day of rest, and
the seventh climacteric year, when the work of
reconstruction of the body was ended, might have
taken <raf3(Barov 8. as the first after two of its
like, the first after two other o-df3/3ara (Coloss. ii.
S. I. FEB. 21, 74.]
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1), that is, as in the third climacteric year. Thi
would get rid of the difficulty spoken of above
The interpretation is erroneous and the analog)
wrong, for the two previous sabbata were not seven
day sabbaths ; but the believers in mystical num
bers would do, and do, much for the sake of an
analogy.
WILLIAM COMBE, AUTHOR OF "DOCTOR SYN-
TAX" (5th S. i. 107.) — I have found an obituary
notice of the author of Doctor Syntax in the Times
Friday, June 20th, 1823. I think it is well worth
rescuing from the oblivion of a newspaper file fifty
years back, and it will interest, I dare say, many
of your readers beside your correspondent M. E.
It is remarkable that of a writer who could boast
of having given to the world one hundred books,
contributed to a score of journals, and furnished
matter for two thousand columns in the news-
papers and magazines of his day, we should know
so little : even his name is generally spelt, as in
The Imperial Dictionary of Universal Biography
and by Allibone, Coombe, and the last popular
edition of Doctor Syntax gives 1773 as the date of
his birth. The Times mentions his Letters of the
late Lord Littleton (sic) ; Moore has a note on his
connexion with his lordship : —
" Talked of Combe ; said to be the writer of Macleod's
Loo-Choo, as he certainly was of of Lord Littleton's
Letters, and many other books of other people's. Combe
kicked Lord Littleton downstairs, at some watering
place, for having ridiculed Lady Archer by calling her a
drunken peacock, on account of the sort of rainbow
feathers and dress she wore. Lord L. also had rolled a
piece of blanc -mange into a ball, and covering it with
variegated comfits, said, ' Tbis is the sort of egg a drunken
peacock would lay."'
Eogers, in his Table, Talk, says of Combe : —
" He was certainly well connected. Fitzpatrick re-
collected him at Douay College. He moved once in the
highest society, and was very intimate with the Duke of
Bedford. Twenty thousand pounds were unexpectedly
bequeathed to him by an old gentleman, who said ' he
ought to have been Combe's father ' (that is, he had
been on the point of marrying Combe's mother), and who
therefore left him that large sum. Combe contrived to
get rid of the money in an incredibly short time."
The following is the notice of his death in the
Times : —
" MR. COMBE.
" Yesterday morning died, between the hours of three
and four, at his lodgings in Lambeth-road, William
Combe, Esq., in the 83rd year of his age. He was a
gentleman who, in the course of his protracted life, had
suffered many fortunes, and had become known, through
various incidents, to so many people in every rank of
society, that it seems hardly necessary to draw his cha-
racter. His lot forbade his stepping aside in order to
let the stream of life pass by, and observe whom it swept
along : he swam, mingled with the rest, down the current,
but with just so much elevation above the stream as
enabled him to perceive the sinkings and risings of all
around him ; so that there was hardly a person of any
note in his time with whose history he was not in some
degree acquainted. He knew others as well as he was
known to them. Upon every branch of art, — it might
almost be said upon every department of science, — he
could expatiate in an instructive and interesting manner.
The destruction of his fortune, and the incessant calls
for his pen, rendered profundity unattainable, nor,
indeed, in his case, was it necessary.
" It would be difficult to sum up the various works of
which he was the author or compiler. The Devil upon
Two Sticks in England was as popular as any in its day,
and still retains a reasonable degree of celebrity, by the
delineation of character and display of anecdote, when
those of whom it treats are no more. The spurious
breed of Dr. Syntaxes, to which his work has subsequently
given birth, attest the fame of the original ; and without
subjecting this work to that severity of criticism which it
never meant to challenge, it displays such readiness of
versification, such pliability of intellect, and, we may
add, such an amiable playfulness of mind, with knowledge
of the little scenes of domestic life, as are rarely to be
found in one whom adversity might have steeled, and
age benumbed.
"He was educated at Eton and at Oxford, and his
first entrance into the world was attended 'by those ad-
ventitious circumstances which but too often seduce the
possessor — some fortune, a graceful person, an extensive
acquaintance, elegant manners, and a taste for literature.
He played, he sang, he danced, and it might almost be
said he was undone ; but his literary attainments which
remained, when, in the course of nature, lighter ac-
complishments had lefthim,were converted into the means
of support. Though mild and unresenting in his nature,
and habitually sparing of his censures, his first work was
a satirical poem, entitled the Dialoliad, the subject of
which has, we believe, sunk into the grave about the
same time with the author. A singular work, entitled
Letters of the late Lord Littleton, was written by him : an
assumed similarity of style to that of the deceased noble-
man, and the repetition of some unimportant incidents,
known, as it was supposed, only in the family, deceived,
as we have been informed, Mr. Windham, one of the
most acute judges, and Lady Littleton, the nearest friend
of the deceased, into the belief that the letters were the
enuine production of his lordship.
" With the degrading vice of drunkenness Mr. Combe
was totally unacquainted ; he was equally free also from
;he practice of gaming of every kind ; and we may add,
;hat his general qualities, united to his excellent talents,
which, under happier auspices, might have raised an
mmble man to fortune and eminence, served to diffuse
lustre round the declining fortunes of one born in
affluence."
SPARKS H. WILLIAMS.
[See Life in Hotten's edition of Dr. Syntax.}
DOUBLE KETURNS IN PARLIAMENTARY ELEC-
TIONS (5th S. i. 104.) — MR. PASSINGHAM states that
he Mayor in the Coleraine election of 1832 gave
lis casting vote for Beresford. The Mayor, as I
ake it, gave his ordinary vote as an ejector, and
his, being the last vote given, seated Beresford
or the time. But a casting vote (ni fallor) is one
rested in a special officer over and above his vote
-s a common elector, and I know of no authority
>y which a Returning Officer at a Parliamentary
lection can give such. I see your correspondent
s in doubt about the Dumbartonshire election,
865: Smollett took the seat by permission of
is opponent, — also as to the Lanarkshire contest
f 1837: Lockhart was allowed to count 1486, or
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5th S. I. FEB. 21, 74.
one over his opponent, and so was returned. Then
as to the Totness election of 1839, it should be
stated that Baldwin subsequently got the seat.
In the general election of 1874, there has been
a double return at Athlone, and the Returning
Officer has seated one of the candidates by what
the newspapers call (but I think erroneously) his
casting vote. W. T. M.
Shinfield Grove.
"ST. GEORGE'S LOFTE" (5th S. i. 87.)— The
answer to this inquiry is, surely, not far to seek.
As the Eood Loft was the loft in which the great
Eood was placed, so St. George's Loft was the loft
in which was placed the image of St. George. No
doubt his image was in one of the chapels which,
in former times, existed in the parish church of
Kimbolton. In the second year of the reign of
Edward VI., the churchwardens of Ludlow acknow-
ledge to have received certain sums of money " for
the lofte that Saynt George stode one," " for the
image of Saynt George that stode in the chapelle,"
and " for a volt that the saide image stode in " (aee
p. 36 of Wright's Churchwardens' Accounts of Lud-
towt Camden Society) ; and in the Churchivardens'A c-
counts of St. Michael's, Cornhill, privatelyprintedby
Mr. A. J. Waterlow, are references (pp. 11, 15) in
the years 1457 and 1459 to the image of St. George,
to its curtains, and to its scaffold. Not long since
(12th Nov. 1873), I was in the noble parish church
of Kettering, whose doors stood open to the way-
farer, where upon the north wall, above the gallery
pews, I saw a fine large painting of St. George and
the dragon. B. H. B.
BERE REGIS CHURCH (4th S. xii. 492; 5th S.
i. 50, 117.) — Hutchins, in his Dorsetshire (vol. i.
p. 47), notices this inscription, but gives no copy
of the Latin, and only the substance in English,
cautiously avoiding what a schoolboy would call
the hard places. He styles it a very long and
obscure inscription. Under the brass plate is, he
informs us, " an altar tomb, on the side of which is
a short inscription and four Latin verses in memory
of Thomas Loup, who died 16—." The rest is hid by
a pew built against it. In the extracts from the
Burial Register two other Loups — or, as there given,
Loops— are noticed: 1608, George Loop, of Hide;
1637, John Loop, of ditto, the elder yeoman. In
the same year Andrew Loup's, or Loop's, name
occurs, as ef Hide, the elder, Gent., on whom the
inscription referred to was made.
I cannot but join my request to MR. TEW'S, that
some one in the immediate neighbourhood of Bere
Regis would verify the text of the inscription as
printed in «N. & Q." (Dec. 20, 1873). Till this
is done the latter part of it can scarcely be rendered
into English with any degree of certainty.
I may observe that Herculeus morbus is the
specific medical term for epilepsy (Castelli Lexicon
Medicum, edit. 1688, 4to. p. 464), and it ought to
be so translated in any English version of the in-
scription. LORD LYTTELTON renders it " an Hercu-
lean disease"; MR. WARREN, "severe illness"; and
MR. TEW, " a grievous malady." One would wish
to know something more of this paragon of perfec-
tion, but I fear there is little prospect of obtaining
any information of interest concerning him.
JAMES CROSSLET.
THE RHEE (5th S. i. 87) is one of the names of
the Cam. R. S. CHARNOCK.
Gray's Inn.
Shown on the map of the Ordnance Survey, and
in K. Johnston's Royal Atlas is a tributary of the
Cam, one of its two primary sources. The one,
the Granta, rising near Henham-on-the-Hill, Essex.
The Rhee, the westernmost branch, rises near Ash-
well, in Hertfordshire, and flows as a county
boundary between the parishes of Ashwell and
Dunton, in Bedfordshire, enters Cambridgeshire in
the parish of Guilden Morden, at the junction of
the three counties of Beds, Herts, and Cambs, and
has its confluence with the Granta, thence forming
the main stream of the Cam, in the parish of
Haslingfield, adjoining Granchester, about three
miles south-east of Cambridge. E. T. L. S.
EARLY CIRCULATING LIBRARIES (5th S. i. 69.)
— Rose, voce "Fancourt," records that Samuel
Fancourt, an English Dissenting minister, " may
be regarded as the original projector of circulating
libraries," and that "in 1740, or 1745, he set on
foot the first circulating library in the metropolis."
To reconcile this with Kirkman's advertisement, so far
as it relates to " reading " his books " for reasonable
considerations," possibly they, like books in public
libraries, were licensed to be read only on the pre-
mises. JOHN PIKE.
"ENDERBY," A TRAGEDY (5th S. i. 49), was
published in Melbourne in December 1867. The
author's name did not transpire at the time, and,
judging from the severe notice his work received
in The Argus of Jan. 24th, 1868, he would be un-
likely to divulge it afterwards. The reviewer,
however, " imagines Enderby to be the work of a
young man — hopes so, at all events " — because
" there are one or two bits here and there which
are tolerable," " alas," he adds, " as grains of wheat
in a bushel of chaff." EDWARD A. PETHERICK.
USE OF INVERTED COMMAS (5th S. i. 9, 75.) —
LORD LYTTELTON and HERMENTRUDE appear to
assume that inverted commas are, and always were,
notes of quotation. That is not the case. In the
prologue to The Sisters, by James Shirley, written
in 1642, first printed in 1652, three passages are
printed in italics, and marked, line by line, in
inverted commas ; but these passages are not quo-
tations, but parts of Shirley's prologue, which he
desired to distinguish from the rest and to empha-
5th S. I. FEB. 21, 74.]
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155
size. This is the earliest instance of the employ-
ment of inverted commas which I have been able
to discover. In 1649, Milton used them as marks
of quotation. JABEZ.
Athenaeum Club.
LITHOTOMY (5th S. i. 106.) — Lithotomy is much
more ancient than the seventeenth century; it was
practised before the Christian Era ; but the singular
notions were entertained, that the operation could
only be performed with safety in the spring, and
between the ages of nine and fourteen. Vide
Aurelius Cornelius Celsus, lib. vii. cap. xxvi.
MEDWEIG.
" CALLED HOME " (5th S. i. 87.)— The Bare-
bones, or Little Parliament of 1653 first introduced
those regulations for registration to which we have
reverted of late years. Marriage was declared to
be a civil contract, and was legally solemnized by a
justice of the peace. Marriage by a clergyman
was optional. The banns were published on three
successive Sundays after morning service, or the
proclamation was made in the market-place by the
bellman on three successive market-days. The
parish register of Boston, Lincolnshire, furnishes
the number of marriages proclaimed in both places :
Year. Market-place. Church.
1656 102 48
1657 104 31
1658 108 52
In 1658, persons were allowed to adopt the
religious ceremony if they preferred it.
EVERARD HOME COLEMAN.
Brecknock Road, N.
" S" VERSUS "Z" (5th S. i. 89, 135.)— I should
think myself a rude person if I were to charge
MR. MORTIMER COLLINS with " ignorance and in-
dolence," or with being too " lazy " to write con-
sistently. Yet, he treats in this rude fashion
compositors and printers, and in a dozen lines
forgets himself, and shifts the charge to the right
shoulders, — to authors who " neglect both spelling
and punctuation." But he gives a final uncompli-
mentary word to the " compositors," who follow the
copy of those neglectful authors. As a rule, my fel-
low workers are neither " ignorant" nor " indolent."
Compositors often suggest sense where authors by
their neglect, or their wretched handwriting, have
been guilty of nonsense. I should like to see MR.
MORTIMER COLLINS, for his undeserved censure,
condemned to do a month's honest compositor's
work. His friends would not know him at the end
of it. However, I forgive him, wishing him better
manners, or, let me say, a kinder way of showing
the good manners which I am ready to believe that
he possesses. E. MERITUS COMPOS.
" JOCOSA" AS A CHRISTIAN NAME (5th S.i. 108.)
— In very common use during the fourteenth and
fifteenth centuries ; but Joyce is the English form —
Jocosa only the Latin. HERMENTRUDE.
TWELFTH DAY (5* S. i. 107.)— St. Canute's
Day is, in the reformed calendar, kept on January
19th. If the Old Style still prevails in Norway,
January 19th would be January 7th. THUS.
THE ESTABLISHMENT OF SUNDAY NEWSPAPERS
(5th S. i. 121.) — MR. EAYNER, in his interesting
communication, refers to the change of day of
publication, in repeated instances, from the Sunday
to the Saturday, of the then long-established Sun-
day papers. This change was made about fifty
years ago, and was consequent upon the alteration
of the day for the issue of the London Gazette,
the Sunday papers giving the list of bankrupts
from the Gazette. The change was made by
Government, at the instance of the newsvendors,
for the [purpose of saving Sunday labour. The
Observer, established in 1791, is the only paper
published now exclusively on Sunday.
JOHN FRANCIS.
"THE TEN AMBASSADORS" (5th S. i. 127.)—
Seven special embassies, but ten ambassadors,
visited London in 1603, to congratulate King
James, and see what they could make of him. It
was then that the office of Master of the Cere-
monies was founded, and Sir Lewis Lewkenor
appointed. The ambassadors were from the
Palatine, Holland (4), Netherlands, Spain, Venice,
Tuscany, and France. EDWARD SOLLY.
GREEK ANTHOLOGY (5th S. i. 88, 117.)— Evi-
dently BARROVIUS has entirely misunderstood the
query, p. 88. The question is not about " antho-
logical works," i. e., excerpts from Greek writers
for schools, but about that collection of Greek
epigrammatists which is known to scholars by the
name of Anihologia Grccca. The best edition of
this collection is that of F. Jacobs, Anthologia
Grceco,, ad fidem Codicis olim Palatini nunc
Parisini, Leipzig, 1844-47, which may be had (ni
fallor) at Messrs. Williams & Norgate, in Hen-
rietta Street, Covent Garden, where also Tauchnitz's
Text Edition, in 3 vols., may be had. In Jacobs'
and Eost's JBibliotheca Grceca is under the title
of "Delectus Epigrammatum Grsecorum," a very
cheap edition of the best epigrams with excellent
Latin notes. A. B.
GRAHAME, VISCOUNT DUNDEE (5th S. i. 48, 94.)
— See the Perluslration of Great Yarmouth, vol. i.
p. 267. A. G.
THE INSIGNIA OF THE KNIGHTS OF THE GARTER
IN S. GEORGE'S CHAPEL, WINDSOR (4th S. xii. 444;
5th S. i. 12.) — In my former communication upon
his subject I alluded to the custom whereby the
lelmets and crests of the Knights of the Golden
Fleece were placed so as, under all circumstances,
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[5th S. I. FKB. 21, 74.
to face towards the high altar. It would have
been more appropriate to the matter in hand
if I had stated — but at the moment I had forgotten
it — that on the early stall-plates of the Knights of
the Garter, which still remain, the helmets and
crests of those knights whose stalls were on " the
Prince's side" are contournfa, so that, as far as
these plates were concerned, the custom at Windsor
was evidently identical with that to which I have
referred as obtaining at Dijon. I have little doubt
that originally the helmets and crests surmounting
the stalls were similarly arranged, but I have not
meant to suggest the resumption of this practice.
The habit of representing the helmets and crests on
the stall-plates, turned towards the sinister in the
case of the knights on the "Prince's side," was
doubtless discontinued when it became the custom
for knights to change their stalls as their seniors in
the Order died out.
I alluded, also, only to the misplacement of the
crests of the " knights subjects," but I might have
included those of the sovereign and the royal
princes, for the same fate has befallen them also,
and the royal crest upon their helmets in S.
George's Chapel is disposed in a manner which
would have occasioned considerable astonishment
to the royal founder and those of his successors
who really wore a crested helm.
J. WOODWARD.
THE ASPIRATE H (5th S. i. 105.)— -The sagacity
of the Indian prince, as shown in his observation
to his Irish tutor, is admitted; but I hope S. T. P.
does not mean us to understand that the authorized
and ordinary way of pronouncing whip is to place
the aspirate before the initial letter. W. T. M.
Shinfield Grove.
THE GREY MOUSE IN "FAUST" (4th S. xii.
516 ; 5th S. i. 34.)— I think that this extract from
the notes of Mr. Bayard Taylor's translation of
Faust, which was published about two years ago
in the United States, will give MR. BANKS the
information which he desires. I copy it from the
Leipzig reprint : —
" Goethe here refers to an old superstition concerning
one of the many forms of diabolical possession. Perhaps
he also remembered the following story, quoted by Hay-
ward from the Deutsche Sagen : —
"'The following incident occurred at a nobleman's
seat in Thiiringia, about the beginning of the seventeenth
century. The servants were paring fruit in the room,
when a girl, becoming sleepy, left the others and laid
herself down on a bench, at a little distance from them.
After she had lain a short time a little red mouse crept
out of her mouth, which was open. Most of the people
saw it, and showed it to one another. The mouse ran
hastily to the open window, crept through, and remained
a short space without. A forward waiting-maid, whose
curiosity was excited by what she saw, in spite of the
remonstrances of the rest, went up to the inanimate
maiden, shook her, moved her to another place, and then
left her. Shortly afterwards the mouse returned, ran to
the former familiar spot where it had crept out of the
maiden's mouth, ran up and down as if it could not find
its way, and was at a loss what to do, and then disap-
peared. The maiden, however, was dead, and remained
dead. The forward waiting-maid repented of what she
had done, but in vain. In the same establishment a lad
had before then been often tormented by the sorceress,
and could have no peace ; this ceased on the maiden's
death.'
" Goethe probably intended the mouSe as a symbol of
the bestial element in the Witches' Sabbath, by which
Faust is disgusted and repelled. The apparition of Mar-
garet, which has also a prophetic character, is the ex-
ternal eidolon of his own love and longing."
G. G.
Geneva.
MARTIAL'S EPIGRAM, xm. 75 (4th S. xii. 426,
520.) — I quote from the ed. Mattheei Eaderi S. J.
Ingolst, 1611 :—
" Littera quse sit, Grammatici certant. Vinetus ad
ilia Ausonii : Hcec gruis effigies. — Y intelligit Pala-
medicam litteram. 4>, verb gruis tantum unius.
Ubi de Y plura ex Philostrato leges. Gropaldus,
volantes, inquit, ordine quodam literam Y psilon faciunt.
Id quod Palamedem deprehendisse legimus. Cselius
Rhodiginus, vel A vel Y, notari putat. Inter volandum,
inquit, litter a A, ab eis delineari videtur, vel ut aliis
amplius arridet Y, cujus invcntionem ex avium volatu
Palamedi attribuunt. Id quod indicare Philostratus
advertitur. Alii A, gnecum intelligent, ut D.
Hieronymus ad Eusticum de vita monast. Et sane
hsec sententia cum Cicerone, ^Eliano, et Tzetze facit,
et verisimillima est." . . .
Ernesti says, " Commentarius Eaderi est omnium
optimus"; and the original authorities given by
the old commentators are often more satisfactory
than the reproductions of them by modern editors.
B. E. N.
MILL ON "LIBERTY" (5th S. i. 29,. 93.)— See an
article by Mr. John Morley. in The Fortnightly
Review for August 1, 1873, and Mr. Fitzjames
Stephen's Liberty, Equality, and Fraternity (Smith,
Elder, & Co.), of which work a second edition has
just been issued. E. A. P.
Perhaps the most important review of this work
is that by the late Mr. Buckle, reprinted in hist
Posthumous Works (Longmans, 3 vols.).
H. BUXTON FORMAN.
"FROM GREENLAND'S ICY MOUNTAINS" (4th
S. xii. 326, 455 ; 5th S. i. 37.)— Local histories of
Oswestry claim a village called Whittington, near
that town, as the place where Heber's missionary
hymn was first sung, and the date as 1820 ; and
from a newspaper of the period, I find that Heber
did preach the first sermon ever preached in the
church of that place, on behalf of the Church Mis-
sionary Society. But the hymn itself was written
in 1819, and when the MS. passed into the collec-
tion of autographs of the late Eev. Dr. Eaffles,
Congregational Minister of Liverpool, a fac-simile
5th S. I. FEB. 21, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
157
was taken in lithograph, even to the very marks
of the file on which the printer had impaled it.
On the back of this lithograph is a circumstantial
history, signed " E." One of the lines that Heber
intended for the fifth verse is given in the litho.
thus, " when the seas were roaring"; the first
word being indistinct, and looking like " Twre " or
" Sure." Kennedy, the compositor who put the
hymn into type, is still living in Wrexham.
A. K.
Croeswylan, Oswestry.
This hymn was composed before a missionary
meeting at the vicarage, and first sung at the
Town Hall, Wrexham. Mr. Hughes, the bookseller
in Church Street, still has the original copy.
E. H. W,
Farlow Vicarage.
"QUILLET" (4th S. xii. 348 ; 5th S. i. 14, 97)
is undoubtedly the same as the Icelandic, word
" hvilft," pronounced queelte, which means a hollow
in a mountain side. It is probably connected with
the verb, "hvelfa," to vault, and " hvelfing," a vault,
as " a hvilft " has in some measure the shape of a
vault turned upside down.
J6N A. HjALTALfN.
Advocates' Library, Edinburgh.
"LIKE" AS A CONJUNCTION (5th S. i. 67, 116.)
But why must it be as a conjunction ] Why
may it not ratlier be the adjective with its strong
comparative force ? Taking it as such, there seems
to me no difficulty whatever. " The lion shall eat
straw like an ox," i. e., the lion, as if he were an
ox, or the lion just like an ox, shall eat straw.
And thus in the LXX. we have it, KCU Xeu>v ws
/3ov<s <£ay€Tcu a^vpa, and in the Vulgate, " leo
quasi bos comedat paleas." No doubt W. B. C.
is right in his impression of the meaning of the
last example. To have an eye like a hawk, is to be
like the hawk only so far as the eye goes.
EDMUND TEW, M.A.
THE AMERICAN CIVIL WAR (4th S. xii. 368 ;
5th S. i. 74.)— The best history of the late Ameri-
can Civil War, as seen from the secessionist point
of view, is undoubtedly that written by Alexander
H. Stephens, the Vice-President of the rebel Con-
federacy; though Pollard's is more read able, because
less philosophical, and fuller in interesting details,
being written by a professional journalist. I may
also state that Moore's Rebellion Record gives the
full text of the official reports of both sides, in civil
as well as military matters, in addition to a vast
amount of interesting matter collected with great
impartiality as material for history.
GASTON DE BERXEVAL.
Philadelphia, U.S.A.
CHARLES OWEN OF WARRINGTON (1st S. viii.
492 ; 5* S. i. 90.)— Of the works of C. Owen
enumerated by MR. ALLNUTT, this library possesses
three only : —
The Scene of Delusions Open'd, in an Historical
Account of Prophetick Impostures. 1712.
Plain Dealing; or, Separation without Schism, &c,
1727.
Essay towards the Natural History of Serpents. 1742.
In the first, in princ., there is a paragraph I
cannot understand, and of which I should be glad
to see an explanation, viz. —
" In this Book he " (a Philo-Prophet) "tells us of the
approaching Judgments of God upon the Roman Empire,
& Impenitent Christendom ; with the fall of Babylon, &
the Redemption of Sion. I '11 say nothing here of their
TmSctffo. in and about Manchester; nor of that Kind
Providence which gave so strange & seasonable a check
to that Spirit in this Vicinity."
MR. ALLNUTT has not included in his list a
pamphlet previously mentioned in " N. & Q.," 1st
S. viii. 492 :—
The Amazon disarm'd ; or, the Sophisms of a Schis-
matical Pamphlet, pretendedly writ by a Gentlewoman,
entituled, An Answer to Donatus Redivivus, exposed and
confuted.
BlBLIOTHECAR. CHETHAM.
" THE SEA-BLUE BIRD OF MARCH " (4th S. xii'
177, 236) :—
" Or underneath the barren buah
Flits by the sea-blue bird of March."
I have always thought these lines referable to the
wheatear, Saxicola cenanthe, one of the earliest of
our little summer visitors, — generally arriving from
the middle to the end of March,— and to the
dwellers near the sea coast often one of the first
indications of returning spring. I never see the
little fellow at this season, flitting from stone to
stone, or clod to clod, and mark the pale grey-blue,
or " sea-blue," of its neck and back without re-
calling these lines. Again, how marvellously has
Mr. Tennyson, in Locksley Hall, in two words,
given us a life-like picture of the wild and cautious
curlew : —
" 'Tis the place, and all around it, as of old the curlews
call,
Dreary gleams about the moorland flying over Locksley
Hall.'' Locksley Hall, stanza ii.
Those who, in the wide expanse, "the rounding
gray," of the Lincolnshire marshes, have watched
at a distance a flight of curlews, will be able to
fully realize the truthfulness of the poet's word-
painting — "dreary gleams"; and dreary gleams
they are, as the light now catches the upper, now
the under side of their plumage, the effect per-
chance heightened by a background of dark rain-
cloud, now lost altogether, again flashing into sight,
and drifting away in a weary, hopeless manner
across the grey expanse. JOHN CORDEAUX.
Great Cotes, Ulceby, Lincolnshire.
OLD METRICAL TITLE-DEEDS (4th S. xii. 69,
170, 395.)— The following is from the Yorkshire
Magazine of the year 1786, page 330: —
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5th S. I. FEB. 21, 7*.
" The following curious poetical title-deed was granted
by William the Conqueror to an ancestor of the present
Lord Rawdon. It is copied verbatim from the original
grant now in the possession of his Lordship's father, the
Earl of Moira, who still possesses the estates in Yorkshire,
on which he lately built a noble mansion called Eawdon
Hall, in the West Riding :—
" ' Concessum ad Paulum Roydon.
" ' I, William, King, the third yere of my reign,
Give to thee, Paulyn Roydon, Hope and Hope-towne,
With all the bounds, both up and downe,
From heaven to yerthe, from yerthe to hel,
For the and thyn, there to dwel,
As truly as this king right is myn ;
For a cross-bowe and a harrow,
When I sal come to hunt on Yarrow.
And in token that this thing is sooth,
I bit the whyt wax with my tooth,
Before Meg, Maud, and Margery,
And my thurd sonne, Henry.' "
CHARLES A. FEDERER.
Bradford.
INNOCENTS' DAY : MUFFLED PEAL (5th S. i. 8,
44, 58.) — At the churches of the adjoining parishes
of Luccombe and Selworthy, co. Somerset, it is (or
was till very recently) the custom to ring a half-
muffled peal on Innocents' Day. The object of a half-
muffled peal, with its alternations of joy and sorrow,
is far superior to that of bells wholly muffled.
There is no fear of the mufflers pertaining to these
two belfries being worn out, as the effect is pro-
duced by tying pieces of old beaver or felt hats on
one side of the clapper, and they are renewed year
by year. J. CHARLES Cox.
Hazelwood, Belper.
A muffled peal was invariably rung on the bells
of the parish church of Ross, Herefordshire, on the
Feast of the Holy Innocents, in my youth.
Whether the custom is still preserved, I do not
know. T. W. WEBB.
The muffled peal on Childermas Day still sur-
vives at Great Risington, Gloucestershire.
DAVID BOYCE.
" To SCRIBE " (5th S. i. 6, 75.)— This term is
used to the present day by the officers of Customs,
the regulations of which still insist on the " scrib-
ing " upon all casks of wine and spirits imported,
the " Gauge," that is, the " Content " and " Ullage'
of the same, with initial marks referring to the
ship, importer, and date of importation — a regula-
tion that can be traced through old books ol
instruction many years back. Indeed, the same
practice is clearly shown in the writ, 4 Edward II
(Ryley's Memorials of London, page 81), which
directs that before casks of wine be " stowed away '
each tun " shall be marked at one end and the,
other with the gauge mark." A similar " scribing '
is performed on chests of tea, when imported, as
they pass the Queen's beam, the number anc
weight of the package being " scribed " thereon
The same regulation applied to casks of oil, and to
square timber and other measurable wood, before
ihe duties were repealed ; but the merchants con-
;inue the practice for their own security.
The instrument is variously called a " scriber "
and a " scribing iron." That in use for the casks
and the chests is formed of two parts, by which
ircular figures and letters may be formed ; but
that for timber is a straight iron cutter, for strokes
only. W. PHILLIPS.
BULLEYN'S DIALOGUE (4th S. xii. 161, 234, 296,
377.) — A friend has observed to me that, with my
premises, I might have more strikingly brought
out my conclusion that Bulleyn's allusion, in the
apparently unintelligible passage in question, is
to Bartlet Green, and not to Alexander Barclay ;
but having suggested whipping for weeping, I
considered that I had conveyed to the minds of
your readers that Bonner had come the pedagogue
over the obdurate young Protestant, and applied
the birch in the old fashion ; thereby showing the
true reading and fitness of application to the
martyr. The author of the Dialogue has many
flings at the late hierarchy, and at Bonner in par-
ticular; but as Elizabeth had ascended the throne
when the book was written, all dread of the
Papists had subsided, and lampoons and carica-
tures upon the' persecutors had succeeded. We may,
therefore, suppose that Vxor and Civis in the
Dialogue were examining Master BoswelPs collec-
tion of the latter, among which Bonner whipping
Bartlet Green's breech, as represented in this quaint
contemporary illustrative initial, was likely one.
A. G-.
SIR JOHN BURLEY, K.G. (5th S. i. 88.)— The
precise date and the place of the death of this
knight have not been ascertained, but that event
must have happened between the months of June
and October, 1383, for on June 22 he acknow-
ledged the receipt of the sum of 500 marks from
the king ; and in the latter month the king's
embroiderer had orders to prepare a garter and
robes for the Earl of Nottingham, who succeeded
to the stall of Sir Robert Burley in the Order of
the Garter : 'see Beltz, Memorials of the Order of
the Garter, p. 259. J. WOODWARD.
[The above reply is substituted for that which appeared
on the same subject last week, p. 136. In the previous
reply it was said, "the Earl of Nottingham, who suc-
ceeded to the stall of Sir John Burley." No mention
was made by MR. WOODWARD in the original MS. of Sir
Robert Burley.]
NOTES ON BOOKS, &c.
Studies in Modern Problems. By Various Writers. Edited
by Rev. Orby Shipley, M.A. (H. S. King & Co.)
THESE studies are no ordinary productions. Their authors'
statements are ex cathedrd, because avowedly based on
5th S. I. FEB. 21, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
159
Church of England doctrine, and announced in a temper
of loyal allegiance to that historical church. Their pro-
fessed object is , to oppose the spirit of infidelity and of
disbelief in the divinely authorized ministry of the clergy
to declare dogmatically the judgment of the Church ir
formal decisions, and to suggest a right modus operandi
on debated questions.
No. 1. Sacramental Confession By A. H. Ward, B.A.
— Opponents would have found themselves assailing an
almost inpregnable position in this essay had not the
writer left a breach open by confusing acts instigated by
a spirit of penitence with acts of penance. He has
weakened his hold on Scripture by affiliating the practice
of penance to the Agony of Gethsemane and the suffer-
ings allied to the work of expiation. Sacramental is a
term, adds Mr. Ward, which has no necessary con-
nexion with the system of confession ; habitual confession
is not compulsory, and should be rendered frequent con-
fession.
No. 2. Abolition of the 39 Articles. By Nicholas
Pocock, M. A.— The author of this essay thinks the time
has come when the subscription of the clergy to the
Articles should be abolished, and that they should be
removed from the position they now hold in the Church
of England system. Their Zwinglian origin is his main
objection. He will find supporters ; but the many who
will take up the challenge will more than question the
desirability of ejecting a regime which at once keeps in
check doctrinal excess on either side, unless another be
substituted whichshallbelessliable to assault. TheArticles
can hardly be said to be Zwinglian in toto because they
were written in a Zwinglian age. Mr. Pocock's arguments,
however, claim the attentive consideration of every school
of revisionists ; he is at home in his subject.
No. 3. The Sanctity of Marriage, by John Walter Lea,
B.A., F.G.S., should be read by all who converse on
questions brulantes respecting this subject. The inherent
sanctity of marriage, with its close analogy to the In-
carnation, is rescued from the philosophy that would
reduce it to the level of a social convenience, or an in-
tellectual regulation of the animal instincts of the
mammalian. The spiritual vinculum matrimonii cannot
be broken, because, by nature, it is an ordinance founded
on the principle of the Hypostatic Union. A further re-
laxation of the marriage ties would lead to open war
between Church and State. The prohibited degrees are
strongly defended by Mr. Ward.
Memoir on the Comparative Grammar of Egyptian,
Coptic, and Ude. By Hyde Clarke. (Triibner & Co.)
THE best idea we can give of this interesting memoir is
by employing the author's own words:— "This intro-
duction to the Comparative Grammar of the Egyptian
language is intended to throw light on the early history
of that people. Besides the relations of the Egyptian
race with the Caucasus, it also embraces some account
of the great Agav race in Africa, Caucasia, and America.
The facts here brought forward throw a new light on
the ancient ethnology of Caucasia, and also on what has
been termed Caucasian grammar." Mr. Clarke subse-
quently states that in the Ude language spoken in the
Caucasus, " we have a living Egyptian, and of the earliest
type. . . . The study of the Ude language and popula-
tion, as well as that of others in the Caucasus, is of great
importance in all historical investigations, because it will
greatly assist in laying better foundations for history.
The language of the few hundreds who now speak Udish
will, under the invasion of Turkish and Russian, in our
time perhaps cease to live ; and the collection of every
fact, however small, however isolated, is valuable,
because one fact may be the connecting joint or link of a
chain of evidence otherwise incomplete."
Literary Remains of the late Emanuel Deutsch. With
a Brief Memoir. (Murray.)
THE " brief memoir " comes from the pen of one who has
a heart as well as a head. It tells with simple dignity
the touching story of one of the most modest and accom-
plished of ill-requited scholars. The Literary Remains of
Mr. Deutsch, although comprised in a single volume,
yield more fruit than many scores of more pretentious
works. The famous articles on The Talmud and Islam
alone might justify such an opinion, but there are others
of 'equal importance, which will be read with the same
absorbing interest.
The Slang Dictionary. Etymological, Historical, and
Anecdotal. A New Edition, revised and corrected,
with many Additions. (Chatto & Windus.)
THIS is in every way a great improvement on the edition
of (1864. Its uses as a dictionary of the very vulgar
tongue do not require to be explained. It belongs in its
own way to philology ; and in some of its illustrations
and interpretations there is, perhaps, not so much wild-
ness as in the insane flights in which the most accom-
plished philologists occasionally indulge.
COLUMBUS. — CRESCENT writes, a propos of the notice
at p. 120 of "N. & Q.."on Mr. Rose's historical play
of Columns, and referring to the quotation in that
notice, " Into thy hands, Lord, I commend my spirit,"
as being the last words of the great navigator, " I would
like to mention an early authority for that sentence. In
the Venice edition, A.D. 1571, of Le Historic del Sign.
Don Fernando Colombo, nelle quali s'ha particolare &
vera relatione della vita <£ de' fatti dell' Ammiraglio Don.
Christoforo Colombo suo padre, &c., translated from the
Spanish into Italian by Alfonso Ulloa, the following ex-
tract relative to the death-bed of Columbus is to be
found at p. 246 : — ' L'Ammiraglio, rese 1'anima a Dio il
giorno della sua Ascensione a' XX. d' Maggio dell' anno
MDVL, nel suddetto luogo di Vagliadolid; hauendo
prima con molta diuotione presi tutti i sacramenti della
Chiesa, e detto queste ultime parole : " In manus tuas,
Domine, commendo spiritum meum." ' Of this extract I
offer a rough and ready translation, thus : The Admiral
gave up his soul to his God on Ascension-day, the 20th
of May, 1506, at the aforesaid city of Valladolid ; having
first, with great devotion, partaken of all the sacraments
of the Church, and having pronounced these last words,
' Into thy hands, 0 Lord, I commend my spirit.' The
copy I examined had in it the autograph of the well-
known diplomatist and book collector ' Dehaym ' ; the
1571 edition is stated to be very scarce and valuable, and
I perceive that in a foot-note respecting a copy of an
edition more than a hundred years later in date, viz., that
of 1685, Mr. Quaritch says, ' The original Spanish work
of Ferdinand Columbus is not known to exist. Barcia
re-translated the Italian for his collection.' I have not
by me Irving's Life of Columbus, but doubtless that
charming writer made good use of the son's history of
bis father's achievements ; and it may be accepted as a
well-authenticated fact that the Latin words which Mr.
Rose, in his play, presents in their English version were
the veritable ' ultime parole ' of him, who, in the sense
of the words of his epitaph, gave a New World to Spain."
" You know who the critics are," &c. (4th S. xii. 439 ;
5th S. i. 60.)— MR. J. BRANDER MATTHEWS, of the Lotus
Club, New York, adds a link to the chain of names of
writers who have used the above illustration. MR.
MATTHEWS says :— " In Kean, ou Desordre et Genie, a
live-act piece, written by Alexandre Dumas pere to fit
Frederick Lemaitre, and produced Originally in Paris, at
the Theatre des Varietes, shortly after the English
tragedian's death, reference is made to those whom ' im-
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puissance a jette dans la critique.' Dumas wrote this
in 1834 or '5, and the parallel passage was not published
by Balzac until 1846." At p. 60 of the present volume,
the sentiment was traced back to Dryden, 1670. What
is now wanted is an earlier instance.
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Dauphin of France, son of Marie Antoinette and
Louis XVI. There were about twenty claimants !
Only a few of them attracted more than passing notice.
First, it should be stated, that M. de Beauchesne, in his
Louis XVII., published in 1853 (translated by Mr. W.
Hazlitt), proved without doubt the death of the most
unfortunate of boys in the Temple, and his burial. Of
the more or less noisy pretenders to be the unhappy
prince, the first was Hervagault, a tailor's son. He died
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chemistry of war. Woolwich spoke well of his projectiles.
All the above, except Meves, made great temporary dis-
play in France. The stories of all differ from each
other, but every one of the claimants had crowds of
idiotic followers. Naundorff died in Holland in 1844.
His family are now before the Court of Appeal in Paris.
In 1851, a judicial judgment had refused to recognize
their claims. They now seek to set aside that judgment.
M. Jules Favre defends their claim, and speaks of Naun-
dorff as " le Prince ! " In conclusion, we must refer our
correspondent to a life of the Duchess of Angouleme,
called Filia Dolorosa, and, for more extended details, to
Querard's Supercheries Litteraires Devoilees, 2nd edit.
(Paris, 1869), vol. ii., col. 833-938.
ME. HERBERT RANDOLPH, quotes: — "Serpens nisi
serpentem comederit non fit Draco"; and asks where is
this to be found, and whence the notion I It is aptly
used by Sir Robert Wilson as a motto, on the title-page
of his work on the Military Power and Resources of
Russia, published in the year 1817. Mr. H. T. Riley, in
his Bool: of Latin and, Greek Quotations, Proverbs, &c.,
gives it as follows : — "Serpens ni edat serpentem draco
non net," and describes it as a proverb.
DRAMATIST. — Alleyne's letter to his wife, from Chelms-
ford, 2nd May, 1593, and a second, from Bristol, 1 st of
August, same year, are printed in Mr. Payne Collier's
Life ofAlleyn (1841), pp. 24, 25. Mr. Collier says that
the first is very incorrectly printed in Lyson's Environs;
and that Malone published the second (Sliakesp. by
Bosw. xxi. 389) " with many minute variations from the
original, and with some important errors."
C. F. S. W.— Crockford states that the Bishop of St.
David's was made B.D. and D.D. per Literas Regias, in
1840; the Cambridge Calendar, however, only recognizes
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Bishop of Ely (Dr. Woodford), on whom the Archbishop
of Canterbury conferred a D.D.
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embarked with his whole family, and that the vessel
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Land of Egypt, it is said, " that the work is apocryphal,
all must allow " ; again, " several literary characters of
the present day (1834) .... are of opinion that it is of
very high antiquity."
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British Pharmacopoeia.
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board ship in charge of rigging, flags, &c."
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LONDON, SATURDAY. FEBRUARYS, 1874.
CONTENTS. — N° 9.
NOTES:— Emma Isola, 161 — Shakspearfana, 163— Poetical
Resemblances— George Chapman's " Homer's Iliads": Extra
Profuse Dedication, 164— Francis Scarlett— " Simpson " —
Pictures by Murillo— Sunflower as a Preventive of Fever, 165
— TheJDuke of Wellington— An American Motto— Taaffe —
Corpse on Shipboard— Burial Customs— Old Indian Deed of
Conveyance for over Sixteen Square Miles in Massachusetts)
166.
QUERIES :— " Blodins " — Shakspeare's Sonnets — "Album
Unguentum" — Burke's Dormant and Extinct Peerage, ed.
1866 — B6zique— Bene't College — Knight Biorn — Anonymous
Poems — Heraldic, 167— Small Tables— Engraved Portrait of
the "Fair Geraldine" — The Nail in Measurement — Adam
Smith — Faeetisa Facetiarum Pathopoli — Dr. Johnson — Sir
Matthew Bale's MSS. — Sir John Reresby's Memoirs — Portrait
of Lady Catherine, Duchess of Queensberry, 168 — Robert
Maitland— Ferdoragh— " As I sit within the rood loft," &c. —
Museums and Natural History Societies — " To get the Sack,"
169.
REPLIES:— On the Elective and Deposing Power df Parlia-
ment, 169— Compurgators — Lithotomy, 171 — "The Fair
Concubine ; or, the Secret History," &c. — "Embossed," 172
—The Sink and the Fire— Welsh Testament, 173- Catherine
Pear— The " Free Chapel " of Havering-Mere — " How they
brought the good news from Ghent to Aix," 174— The Gothic
Florin — Viscounty of Buttevant — "Tedious" — "We are
spirits," &c.— Lt.-CoL Livingstone — " But thou art fled," &c.
Isabel, or Elizabeth, Wife of Charles V.—" Crack" : " Wag":
"Rake, "175— Henry Hoare's Charity— The Black Priest of
Wedale— Double Returns to Parliament— The Latin Version
of Bacon's " Essays " — " Like " as a Conjunction— Bere Regis
Church, 176 — "Prester John" and the Arms of the See of
• Chichester — Polygamy — " Spurring " — " Ings, " 177 — Scottish
Titles — Lord Ligonier — ' ' Jacaran da' '—Twelfth Day— Epitaph
on a Tombstone near Paris— Hart Hall, 178 — Moses of
Chorene— Mnemonic Calendar — Stoball, 179.
Notes on Books, &c.
EMMA ISOLA.
Just half a century has elapsed since Charles
and Mary Lamb, being at Cambridge, became
acquainted with a little orphan girl at school. She
at once attracted the sympathies of the brother and
sister. Orphan pupils generally remain at school
during the " vacation " ; but Lamb invited the soli-
tary little girl to spend her holidays with him and
Mary. Sympathy grew into strong affection ; and,
after the first visit, the little orphan girl regularly
spent her holidays in Lamb's home of sunshine and
of shadow. She is known to us all, in Lamb's cor-
respondence, as Emma Isola.
Lamb regarded her with paternal affection. In
March, 1826, Emma was as a born daughter of the
Lanib household. Coleridge had invited his friend
and sister to his house, and Lamb, accepting the
invitation " with great pleasure," says, " May we
bring Emma with us 1 "
In leisure hours, Lamb undertook a task which,
it is said, no father should undertake with his child.
It is indicated in a letter of July, 1827, to Mrs.
Shelley: "I am teaching Emma Latin, to qualify
her for a superior governess-ship which we see no
prospect of her getting. 'Tis like feeding a child
with chopped hay from a spoon. Sisyphus — his
labours were as nothing to it !" How the pupil
floundered among verbs active and verbs passive,
and how the deponent verbs came in like Chaos to
make confusion worse confounded, is amusingly
told in the Lamb correspondence. Emma requited
the pains when she helped Lamb to understand
Dante.
So year passed after year, and Lamb rendered
those which had gone by nothing the less sweet by
giving the young girl a copy of The Pleasures of
Memory. At length we come to 1830. In a letter
written in March of that year, addressed to William
Ayrton, Lamb shows that his love for " a very dear
young friend of ours" was so mixed up with fear
for her life from brain fever, that he could attend
to no allurements to authorship or editorship, even
from Mr. Murray. Since the Lambs had first met
her, at the house of Ayrton's sister, at Cambridge,
" she has been," he says, " an occasional inmate
with us (and of late years much more frequently)
ever since. While she is in this danger, and till
she is out of it, and here " (at Chase Side, Enfield)
" in a probable way to recovery, I feel that I have no
spirits for an engagement of any kind. It has been
a terrible shock to us !"
Lamb went down to Bury to bring the fair
young invalid to town, if she were able to bear the
journey. Weak as she was, she was there, as else-
where, his good genius, and exercised her healthy
influence over him. Lamb loved good wine, for it
inspired him to utter brilliant sense, and, some-
times, sparkling evanescent folly. Anxious for his
good name, and fearing it might be compromised,
misunderstood, if he took wine in that strange
country house, Emma Isola got him " in a corner,"1
and induced him to promise to abstain. Lamb'
promised, and kept his word. He was all the-
merrier for it on their way home in the stage- coach j
for it was there they had the talkative fellow-
traveller, who, after trying Lamb on every point
of conversation for which he cared or knew
nothing, asked him " as to the probability of its
turning out a good turnip season ! " To which
Lamb replied, " I believe it depends very much
upon boiled legs of mutton ! " The reply stirred
even the young invalid to laughter, which to
youthful invalids is a tonic. By-and-by, the
two travellers reached Enfield, where Mary Lamb
awaited Emma's coming with impatience, "and,
after a few hysterical tears for gladness, all was
comfortable again."
At the end of May, Lamb wrote, in mingled joy
and gladness, to Mrs. Hazlitt : "Emma stayed a
month with us, and has gone back in tolerable
health to her long home, for she comes not again-
for a twelvemonth."
Emma Isola returned, however, again and again,
and occasionally for lengthened periods. In an
undated letter to Gary, the translator of Dante,
but written in 1833, Lamb says: — " You will be
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amused to hear that my sister and I have, with the
aid of Emma, scrambled through the Inferno
by the blessed furtherance of your Polar Star trans-
lation."
In May of the above year, when Lamb was
dwelling " at a Mr. Walden's," Edmonton, where
Miss Lamb was one of the insane " patients," her
brother wrote to Wordsworth, of the weight ever
on his mind, or ever being feared. " To lay a little
more load on it," he says, " I am about to lose my
old and only walk companion, whose mirthful
spirits were ' the youth of our house,' Emma
Isola. I have her here now for a very little while,
but she is too nervous properly to be under such a
roof, so she will make short visits, — be no more an
inmate. She is to be wedded to Moxon, at the
end of August. So perish the roses and the
flowers ! How is it 1"
To Patmore, Lamb wrote : " Moxon has fallen in
love with Emma, our nut-brown maid.'' And
Leigh Hunt replied to a similar intimation by
calling the lover, " The Bookseller of the Poets,
and with no disparagement to him from the anti-
thesis, a Poet among Booksellers."
For the young bride, Lamb was resolved to sacri-
fice his dearest possession — his portrait of Milton.
" It might have been done by a hand next to Van-
dyck's," he said. Lamb had proposed to leave it
to Wordsworth, who was to bequeath it to Christ's
College, Cambridge ; but he could not resist the
yielding it to the bride. " I have given Emma my
MILTON (will you pardon me ?) in part of a portion."
No doubt Wordsworth forgave him.
Lamb himself could not be reconciled to an
event which he nevertheless described as a happy
one. "I am very uncomfortable," he wrote to
Hazlitt, " and Avhen Emma leaves me I shall wish
to be quite alone. Emma will explain to you th*
state of my wretched spirits."
They revived under pleasant provocation ; and,
when Moxon presented his young fiancee with a
watch, Lamb wrote a letter full of affectionate
banter, of which this is a sample : —
" Give Emma no more watches ; one has turned her
head. She said something very unpleasant to our old
clock in the passage, as if he did not keep time, and yet
he had made her no appointment ! She takes it out every
instant to look at the moment-hand. She lugs us out
into the fields, because there the bird-boys ask you,
' Pray, sir, can you tell me what 'a o'clock ? ' — and she
answers them punctually. She loses all her time looking
to see 'what the time is.'. ..This little present of Time !
why, 'tis Eternity to her.... Between ourselves, she has
kissed away ' half-past twelve,' which I suppose to be the
canonical hour in Hanover Square."
Later in the letter he adds : —
" Never mind this opposite nonsense. She does not
love you for the watch, but the watch for you. I will be
at the wedding, and keep the 30th July, as long as my
poor months last me, as a festival, gloriously."
Of the bridal there is no record. Mary Lamb
had been under temporary restraint, but she tells
herself how she awoke on the wedding-day : —
" The dreary blank of unanswered questions, which I
ventured to ask in vain, was cleared up on the wedding-
day, by Mrs. Walden taking a glass of wine, and, with a
total change of countenance, begging to drink Mr. and
Mrs. Moxon's health. It restored me from that moment,
as if by an electrical stroke, to the entire possession of my
senses. I never felt so calm and quiet after a similar
illness as I do now. I feel as if all tears were wiped from
my eyes and all care from my heart."
Lamb felt the separation acutely, but he would
not allow the young people to think so. He wrote
to Moxon : "My bedfellows are cough and cramp:
we sleep three in a bed... .Mind, our spirits are good,
and we are happy in your happinesses. Our old
and ever loves to dear Emma."
From a letter to Gary we see the effect on
Lamb's own home : " Moxon is flaunting it about
a la Parisienne with his new bride, our Emma,
much to his satisfaction, and not a little to our
dullness."
When the honeymoon was over, and the Moxons
were established in Dover Street, Lamb wrote in
the following strain to the newly- married couple : —
" Read ' Darby and Joan ' in Mrs. Moxon's first album.
There you '11 see how beautiful in age the looking back
to youthful years in an old couple is. But it is a violence
to the feelings to anticipate that time in youth. I hope
you and Emma will have many a quarrel and many a
make up (and she is beautiful in reconciliation) before
the dark days shall come in which ye shall say, ' There
is small comfort in them.' "
Alluding to Moxon's sonnet to his wife, begin-
ning—
" Fair art thou as the morning, my young bride,"
Lamb says that he dwelt upon it in a confused
brain. But he hastens to do away with any idea
that the parting from the adopted daughter of his
heart has quite darkened his home. " Tell Emma,"
he writes, " I every day love her more, and miss
her less. Tell her so from her loving ' uncle,' as she
lets me call myself." And then, after other matters,
he ends with, " I am well and happy, tell E."
In December, 1833, Lamb thanked Kogers for
some active interest he took in the welfare of the
Moxons. Lamb strove to keep it up, by saying,
" The Pleasures of Memory was the first school
present I made to Mrs. Moxon . . and I believe she
keeps it still. . . All the kindness you have
shown to the husband of that excellent person
seems done unto myself."
In February, 1834, to Miss Fryer, who had been
pitying his loneliness, Lamb wrote that he had been
keeping his birthday in Dover Street. " I see them
pretty often," he adds, and then, referring to his
own home, he says: "It is no new thing to me to
be left to my sister. When she is not violent, her
rambling chat is better to me than the sense and
sanity of this world. Her heart is obscured, not
buried. It breaks out occasionally, and one can
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163
discern a strong mind struggling with the billows
that have gone over it." Then, turning as it were
from the shadow to the sunlight, he looks into the
other home, and says: "Emma, I see, has got a
harp, and is learning to play. She has framed her
three Walton pictures, and pretty they look."
To the last, Lamb loved the child of his heart
with an unselfish love; and a part of the little he
had to leave fell, after his sister's death, to Mrs.
Moxon. The "dark days," however, to which
Lamb alluded, came still darker than he had con-
templated them. At the end of a quarter of a
century of married life, the " Bookseller of Poets
and the Poet among Booksellers" died. There
was embarrassment, a brave struggle to get clear of
it, and success was for a moment grasped, but it
was only held for a time. The end is almost utter
shipwreck. The Emma Isola who was the youth
of Lamb's house stands before the world, blame-
less, but in an almost destitute position. TJiat is
hardship enough for one to bear; but hers is a
large family, including five daughters, nearly all in
delicate health. Those among us who remember
Lamb, others who know and appreciate him in his
works, betrothed couples who are under the purple
light of love, the newly-married whose roughest
part of life is but " the crumpling of the roses," and
the long-married who have not known, and are not
likely to know, the dark and comfortless days — all
alike may be glad to learn that at Messrs. Glyn,
Mills & Co.'s subscriptions may be paid in to the
" Moxon Subscription Fund." The spirit of Charles
Lamb, if it can be moved by any earthly action,
will assuredly smile on all who show active bene-
ficial sympathy with Emma Isola. ED.
SHAKSPEARIANA.
" A ROWAN-TREE, WITCH !'
(4th S. xii. 244, 364.)
Whether this be the correct reading of the
line in Macbeth (I. iii. 6), commonly given, " Aroint
thee, witch ! " I think very doubtful. The most
probable derivation of "Aroint thee," I take to be
that it is an imprecation, or exorcism, corrupted
from the Lat. " [Dii]averruncent !" ; Averruncus
being a deity supposed to avert evil. It is true,
however, that the rowan-tree was held in high
estimation by the peasantry in the north of Eng-
land, for its supposed efficacy in depriving witches
and evil spirits of their power to harm. It is the
common mountain ash ; and is sometimes called
the " whicken [quicken] tree," and " witch-wood."
I well remember, when a boy in Westmoreland,
hearing my grandmother recite a ballad, narrating
how a witch's intentions on a ploughboy were
frustrated by his carrying a rowan-tree switch as a
whip for his horses. Two lines live in my memory :
" It's we'el for the lad, with the rowan-tree gad [goad],
For I cannot come near him by the length of the land."
Brockett, in his Glossary of North Country
Words, says the superstition has been handed down
to us from antiquity, and probably originated with
the Druids. Skinner is uncertain whether the
tree may not have derived its name from the colour
called roan : the more likely derivation, however,
is that given by Ihre, from runa, an incantation.
J. C.
Zanesville, Ohio.
AROINT AND AROUGT (4th S. xii. 364.)— MR.
PATTERSON is wholly mistaken in what he says of
Hone's essay on Hearne's print of the Descent into
Hell (Ancient Mysteries, p. 138). Hone certainly
does not propose to turn aroint (whether in Mac-
beth or Lear) into arougt, any more than he pro-
poses to turn arougt into aroint. All he attempts
to prove is that the last word in the print is arougt,
and not (as Johnson supposed) arongt ; whence it
follows that the word in the print and Shakspeare's
aroint are two distinct words. In the print the
porter of Hell-gate is represented as a conventional
devil, holding a trident in his left paw, and a horn
in his right. He is blowing the horn, and the
sounds he is supposed to make are represented by
Out, out arougt ! JABEZ.
Athenaeum Club.
The Lancashire name for the rowan-tree was
witchen. Rowan was a protection, not only to
mankind, but also to cattle ; and Lightfoot, in
Flora Scotia, says : " The dairy-maid will not for-
get to drive them to the shealings or summer-pas-
tures with a rod of the rowan-tree, which she care-
fully lays up over the door of the sheal-boothy or
summer-house, and drives them home again with
the same." It is a fresh circumstance, in fact, in
favour of Miss Kent's, or, as MR. BRITTEN says,
S. H.'s conjecture, and strengthens my personal
predilection for it over every other conjecture. Nor
do I consider her rendering of 'Michael Burgher's
copper-plate drawing of the Descent into Hell, at
p. 252 of her Sylvan Sketches, at all inferior to
Hone's, and certainly not to Hearne's, for whom
was executed.
According to her, it is a drawing " in which oui
Saviour is represented with a roan-tree cross in his
left hand, while with the right he appears to draw
a contrite spirit from the jaws of Hell." But
neither Hearne nor Hone touch the rowan-tree,
though the superstition was one of the most ancient
and extended. Only their readings of the words
upon the scroll which issues from the mouth of the
demon affect the subject. Hearne has them Out,
out arongt; Hone, Out, out arougt, the latter
arguing, with great good reason, that the last word is
evidently an abbreviation on account of the unusual
distance it traverses beyond the boundary line of
the plate. In evident despair, he concludes with
a reference to Boucher's Supplement to Johnson's
article on the word aroint, where he alludes to the
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Lancashire word areawt, which signifies get out, or
away with thee,* and says : —
" But the authority of English manuscripts in the age
of Hearne's Calendar was almost arbitrary. Its loose
and undermined character is sorely lamented by the
preface-writer to Bishop Bales's interlude to God's Pro-
mises; he says that ' the same words being so constantly
spelled different ways makes it very certain they had no
fixed rule of right and wrong in spelling ; provided the
letters did but in any manner make out the sound. Of
the word they would express, it was thought sufficient.' "
All this I think is eminently favourable to the roan-
tree reading. Supposing the word ever existed, I hold
;ihat its value would be a doubtful one, either in the
Lear or Macbeth line ; for the power of it must neces-
sarily be limited to command or imprecation, and it
is contrary to the system of demonology to suppose
that witches were either obedient to orders or
terrified by oaths.
ROYLE ENTWISLE, F.R.H.S.
Jamworth, Bolton.
POETICAL RESEMBLANCES.
There are certain minds which are ever on the qui
vive to discover resemblances of expression in the
works of different writers, which they uncharitably
set down as plagiarisms. I am none of these, know-
ing how invariable are the phenomena of nature and
human life in all ages, and that the same ideas must
naturally occur to all thoughtful minds, and find
expression in much the same set of terms. It is
Delated of a certain facetious Abbot, that upon
•being told that many of his jokes were not
•altogether new or original, he was wont to ex-
.claim, "Let them, be excommunicated who have
said all our good things before us !" With per-
mission, I submit a few examples which I have re-
cently met with of similarity of idea and expression
in different writers.
Amongst the numerous racy sayings preserved
of Wilkes, of North Briton notoriety, is his observa-
tion to Sir William Staines (Lord Mayor, 1800),
who began life as a bricklayer, at one of the Old
Bailey dinners, when the worthy knight was eating
a great quantity of butter with his cheese : — "Why,
brother," said Wilkes, " you lay it on with a
trowel ! " In Congreve's play of the Double Dealer,
one of the female characters, speaking of a lady of
her acquaintance, exclaims (spitefully) : —
"Paints!
Why she lays it on with a trowel ! "
Dean Swift, in one of his coarse, but witty,
satires, has the following : —
" Not infants dropt, the spurious pledges
Of Gipsies littering under hedges."
which reminds one of Butler's lines in Hudilras: —
" And lovers solacing behind doors,
Or giving one another pledges
Of matrimony under hedges."
eawt.
The Lancashire equivalent to this now-a-dajs is ger
Byron's celebrated line, in his apostrophe to the
ocean, in Childe Harold : —
"Time writes no wrinkle on thine azure brow,"
has been the subject of diverse comment. It is
generally acknowledged to be a great truth ex-
pressed in striking language ; but hyper-critics
have carped at the phrase " azure brow," an objec-
tion so contemptible that it need only be referred
to and dismissed. Barry Cornwall (Bryan Waller
Procter) employs the same idea in his magnificent
Address to the Ocean : —
" Thou trackless and immeasurable main' !
On thee no record ever lived again,
To meet the hand that writ it."
There is no just cause to suspect either poet of
plagiarism ; the truth embodied in these respective
quotations is so self evident as to require for its
discovery no extraordinary penetration. A counter-
part to Burns's oft-quoted lines —
" The rank is but the guinea's stamp,
The man's the gowd for a' that,"
has been found in Wycherley's play of the Country
Wife :—
" I weigh the man, not his title ; 'tis not the King's
stamp can make the metal better.''
Sterne expresses a somewhat similar sentiment
in his "Dedication to a Great Man" in Tristram,
Shandy, which I am not aware has been noticed
before in connexion with Burns's famous lines. It
is as follows : —
" Honours, like impressions upon coin, may give an
ideal and local value to a bit of base metal ; but Gold
and Silver will pass all the world over, without any other
recommendation than their own weight."
Needless to observe that the illustrious Scottish
peasant has expressed the sentiment in by far the
neatest language.
Apropos of Sterne, Dr. Ferrar, about the
beginning of this century, published a small book,
entitled Illustrations of Sterne, in which he
endeavoured to prove the witty author of Tristram
Shandy the vilest plagiarist. It is true he showed
that Sterne was largely indebted, in writing
Tristram, to Burton's Anatomy of Melancholy,
but as Sterne himself says, "Every man's \,it
must come from his own soul and no other body's."
W. A. C.
Glasgow.
GEORGE CHAPMAN'S "HOMER'S ILIADS": EXTRA
PROFUSE DEDICATION. — In recent numbers of
" N. & Q." an advertisement has appeared, setting
forth the reprinting, by Mr. Eussell Smith, of
Chapman's Homer's Iliad and Odyssey ; and this
notice reminded me of the extravagant dedication
preceding the old edition (of 1606 ?) printed for
Nathaniel Butter. Not contented with having
two strings to his bow, honest George must needs
have no less than seventeen, my notes giving the
5th S. I. FEB. 28, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
165
following as the patrons to whom Chapman
addressed his Iliads : —
"To Anne, Queene of England &ca., Sacred Fountaine
of Princes, Sole Empresse of Beavtie and Vertve.
"To the Eight Gracious and Worthy, the Duke of
Lennox.
• " To the most Grave and honored Temperer of Law
and Equity, the Lord Chancelor, &ca.
" To the most Worthie Earle, Lord Treasurer & Trea-
surer of Our Country, the Earle of Salisbury, &ca.
" To the most honored Restorer of ancient Nobility,
both in bloud & vertue, the Earle of Suffolke, &ca.
" To the most Noble and learned Earle, the Earle of
Northampton, &ca.
" To the most Noble, my singular good Lord, the Earle
of Arundell.
" To the learned and most noble Patron of learning, the
Earle of Pembroke, &ca.
"To the Right Gracious Illustrator of Vertue, and
•worthy of the favour Royall, the Earle of Montgomrie.
"To the most learned and noble Conductor of the
"Warres, Arte, and the Muses, the Lord Lisle, &ca.
" To the Great and Vertuous, the Countesse of Mont-
gomerie.
"To the Happy Starre Discovered in our Sydneian
Asterisme, comfort of learning, Sphere of all the vertues,
•the Lady Wrothe.
" To the Right Noble Patronesse and Grace of Vertue,
the Countesse of Bedford.
" To the Right Valorous and Vertuous Lord, the Earle
of Sovth-Hampton, &ca.
"To my exceeding good Lord, the Earle of Sussex,
with duty alwaies remembred to his honour'd Countesse.
" To the right Noble and Heroicall, my singular good
Lord, the Lord of Walden, &c».
" To the most truely noble and vertue-gracing Knight,
Sir Thomas Howard.
" Ever most humbly and faithfully devoted to you, and
«11 the rare Patrons of divine Homer.
" GEO. CHAPMAN."
Observe the skill with which the poet-translator
avoids any repetition of terms in the praises he
sings, and how judiciously he apportions to each
patron the right amount of flattering compliment.
"Verily, the art of vanity- tickling must have reached
a lofty height in the early years of the seventeenth
•century, even though the above be deemed, as I
believe it is, an extraordinary specimen of the dedi-
catory-fulsome style. CRESCENT.
Wimbledon.
FRANCIS SCARLETT. — I observe that in the
account given in Burke's Peerage and Baronetage
•of this family there are one or two slight inaccu-
racies, as, for instance, that Francis Scarlett, some-
times called Captain, " served as member for St.
Andrew's parish, in the first Legislative Assembly
of Jamaica." This is an error, as may be seen by
referring to the official list of the first Assembly,
in 1663. Captain Scarlett does not appear either
in the list of the members of the first Council.
This gentleman was styled Captain, from the
fact that he commanded a vessel which traded
between London and Jamaica, as may be seen in
the local records of the latter island ; but he does
not appear to have served in any official capacity;
and, moreover, the links connecting him with the
father of the first Lord Abinger (two of whose
brothers were Members of Assembly in Jamaica)
are, I think, imperfect, although they might be
discovered.* SP.
TAVERN INSCRIPTION. — Allow me to recommend
to the notice of every true Briton (except Sir
Wilfrid Lawson) this encouraging inscription,
which I saw recently on the wall in a village inn,
at Farnborough in Kent : —
"All who enter herein
Need not have any fear ;
For when they have drank (sic) all the rum and gin
They can do the same with the beer."
These spirited lines are due, I understand, to the
genius of the landlord. A. J. M.
" SIMPSON." — I take it that this word, which, in
the East of England, is used to denote the common
groundsel, is corrupted from its botanical name
senecio, senecion-is (vulgaris), which in some
dialects of England is tendon. There is a
tendency to corrupt n to w, and to interpolate p.
E. S. CHARNOCK.
Gray's Inn.
PICTURES BY MURILLO. — Those persons who are
so fortunate as to possess pictures by Murillo will
probably be glad to know that in the scarce cata-
logue of the old collection of Loridon de Ghellinck
of Ghent, after minute descriptions of full-length
portraits of Don Kodrigue de Silva Mendoza Gus-
manand of D. Inigo Melchior Fernandez de Velasco
de Frias, both dated 1659, is the following note:—
" Monsieur Maelcamp les a apportes d'Espagne, avec
onze autres du meme Peintre, que la Famille de Madame
son Epouse y avoit acquis, lesquels sont passes en Angle-
terrt."
Although no date is given, I think these eleven
Murillos must have been either the first, or among
the first, brought to England. Was Maelcamp the
Flemish for Malconi ] Perhaps a notice of them
might be found in the Gentleman's Magazine, or
some newspaper about a hundred years old.
BALPH N. JAMES.
Ashford, Kent.
SUNFLOWER AS A PREVENTIVE OF FEVER. —
The following paragraphs are extracted from The
Swiss Times and from The Craven Pioneer. Similar
remarks have been in several German, French,
Swiss, and Italian journals, and also in medical
works : —
"All those who live in malarial districts should, if
possible, test the asserted influence of sunflower cultiva-
tion in removing the sources of fever. German, Italian,
and French savans have testified as to its efficacy in this
respect. An account comes to us from Holland of a land-
owner on the low banks of the Scheldt, who planted
three or four plota of sunflowers a few yards from his
house with such effect that for ten years there has not
I myself have a clue to one of these links.
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[5th 8. 1. FEB. 28, '74.
been a case of miasmatic fever among the tenants on his
property, though the disease continues to prevail in the
neighbourhood." — Swiss Times.
"No plant absorbs nitrogen so rapidly as the sun-
flower ; it is ravenous as the stomach of an ostrich. A
pigeon was buried amongst the roots of a sunflower.
After some weeks not a vestige of the bird was found.
The plant had devoured, and even digested, the feathers."
Craven Pioneer.
The extract from The Swiss Times merits a con-
sideration. The pigeon story in the other extract
is questionable ; and we may ask whether the same
effect might not have been produced if the bird
had been placed for some weeks amongst the roots
of any other plant or flower. The sunflower is of
easy cultivation; it will grow anywhere. I have
had miniature specimens on an old wall. The
seed is much relished by domestic fowls and cage-
birds. A. MURITHEAN.
THE DUKE OP WELLINGTON. — I was dining in
company with the Duke, in 1836, at Betshanger,
near Walmer, in Kent, when the conversation
turned upon events in the Peninsula. The Duke
looking out from the window upon the park, said:
— "At such a battle" (I forget where) "I saw
Soult in his tent, not further off than that clump
of trees," pointing to one at a distance, " writing,
with his staff about him. I 'd got my glass upon
him. Suddenly he handed a slip of paper, and an
aide-de-camp galloped off. I saw what he was at.
I made a counter- move, and I beat him." The
sparkle of his eye and the compression of his lips
are not easily to be forgotten.
HERBERT RANDOLPH.
Sidmouth.
AN AMERICAN MOTTO.— A humourist of the
U.S.A. tells a story of an M.D. who has adopted,
as a family motto to his recently "found" arms,
" Patients is a Virtue." N.
TAAFFE. — In a former note it was stated that
the wife of Christopher Taaffe, "generosus in
Comitatu Derriw" (1745), was named Anne.*
This appears to have been an oversight; her name
was Mary. She was the mother of Arthur Taaffe
(ob. 1750), of the Rev. Henry Taaffe, and of Anne
Taaffe, and either her husband or herself had a
sister married to a Mr. Wheeler, for her son Henry
mentions his Cousin Thomas Wheeler in his will
(1771) along with his own children — 1, Arthur
Roger ; 2, Elizabeth ; 3, John Armistead ; 4,
Richard Brownrigg; 5, Thomas Wheeler.
The author of Annotations on King James II.'s
Army List made the following communication to
the writer, many years ago, on this subject. Re-
ferring to the will of Christopher Taaffe, who died
in Dublin in 1736, he says:—
" I think he is identical with the Christopher named
* It was a " Michael Taafe," who died in 1762, whose
mother was named Anne.
in the will of Arthur Taaffe, of Jamaica. . . (he) had
(i. e., Christopher, who d. 1736) sons named Arthur and
Henry, and I am inclined to think that he had also a son
George, who passed into Connaught and settled there."
But, in the will of Christopher (1736), no men-
tion is made of his sons; and, therefore, I should
be glad to know whence he obtained his informa-
tion. S. P.
CORPSE ON SHIPBOARD. — Fuller, Holy Warre,
c. 27, says of St. Louis : —
" His body was carried into France, there to be buried,
and was most miserably tossed ; it being observed, that
the sea cannot digest the crudity of a dead corpse, being
a due debt to be interred where it dieth ; and a ship
cannot abide to be made a bier of."
W. G.
BURIAL CUSTOMS. — A little more than a century
ago, in Wales, the poor were not buried in coffins ;
they were merely wrapped up in canvas and carried
away to be buried in a coffin, which was kept for
common use in the church, just as a bier is now.
There were two coffins kept, one a large one,
another a small one. T. C. UNNONE.
OLD INDIAN DEED OF CONVEYANCE FOR OVER
SIXTEEN SQUARE MILES IN MASSACHUSETTS. —
Some time in the year 1846, while visiting Haver-
hill, Massachusetts (United States), I met with an
old gentleman by the name of Capt. White (now
deceased), who, ascertaining I had a liking for
antiquities, pulled down from the wall an old stock-
ing, full of old, musty, and, many of them, nearly
illegible records for my examination.
Among them was an old deed of the original tribe
of Indians for a large tract of land, where now
stand the cities of Haverhill, Ipswich, Salem,
Lawrence, &c., which conveyance, when I saw it,
had been recorded at Ipswich over 190 years. The
following is a copy of the same : —
" Know, all white men and Indians by these presents
that we, Sagaho and Passaquai, Chiefs of ye Tribe of
Pasconoway, in consid of £3 16 0, have given and granted
to ye inhabitants of Pawtucket 16 miles by 18 on Little
River, and we will warrant and defend ye same against
all white men or Indians.
" Nov. 15, 1642.
" Signed, Sagaho and
Passaquai."
To this, for a seal, was affixed a picture of two
bows and arrows.
The names of a dozen persons were given at the
bottom of the conveyance, and who were, probably,
the original grantees. Among these names were
Ward, White, Dustin, Coffin, &c., whose
descendants still reside there. Is there any men-
tion of this large grant of land in the historyfof
New England or of the tribe of Pasconoway ?
WM. W. MURPHY.
Frankfort-on-Main.
5th S. I. FEB. 28, 74.]
NOTES AND QUEEIES.
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{We must request correspondents desiring information
on family matters of only private interest, to affix thei
names and addresses to their queries, in order that the
answers may be addressed to them direct.]
" BLODIUS " — Blood colour, as seems most prob
able, and as Ducange explains it, or blue, as Dr
Rock (Church of Our Fathers, ii. 260) seems to
show ] In a matrimonial cause at Durham in 1451
(Surt. Soc., vol. xxi. p. 31), both parties deposed as
to their clothes at the time of their marriage. The
man said that they were "somjjwmetcolorisambo"
the woman, " blodii coloris ambo." This seems to
settle it ; but how are we to understand Dr. Kock's
quotations?
The following occur in Ripon wills, inventories,
<&c., mostly of the fifteenth century. I should be
glad of any satisfactory explanations, or of confirma-
tions, or refutations, of my own surmises.
Hayr pro vstrina xxx vine; carbones de Hale;
myor pro pane micando (what is the word ?) ;
Wayneclowtes; plogh clowtes; birne Iron as distinct
from markyng Iron ; flekes pro plaustro ; j call
p't xij d (1 for calling the cattle home) ; pro le
graneship xijs viijd (about the price of a fat ox in
same inventory) ; gresman (1 a grazier) ; pescuarium
(among bed-clothes) ; vnum allarium blodium ;
j perpendiculum ; unum Suster Eight in Collegio
S. Trin, Pontefract ; les Crystynges (a locality in
the village of Shirburn in Elmet) ; j dalk deaurat,
— a dalk cum ymagine B. marie ; blakke bokesye
and bulckasyn (textile fabrics), pannus vocatus
lewan (1 Louvain) ; vna vlna de cremell (? creiuell),
crewel, or worsted; j toga de mostar de velis;
Sewent Ordigne makyth and declarit my testament,
&c. (1522) ; Item in Appryware (1 in Napery-
ware) ; byemyllne (? the town mill, so " Bye Well,"
the village well at N. Kelsey in Lincolns.) ;
ploxomegate (now Blossom Gate, a street in Ripon) ;
J. D. impregnata cum W. K. alector seu cum
R. S. &c. ; in toga laxa et terrela sua. J. T. F.
Hatfield Hall, Durham.
SHAKSPEARE'S SONNETS. — What is the earliest
allusion to, or quotation from, the Sonnets? I
mean, of course, after the publication in 1609, and
exclude Meres's notice, which, if it refers at all to
the series afterwards published, certainly only does
so inter alia. Is there, in fact, any notice or men-
tion of them up to 1640, the date of the new
edition ? SPERIEND.
" ALBUM UNGUENTUM." — Pray will some reader
help me to the meaning of the following sentence,
occurring in Matthew Paris under the year 1092 ?
I refer especially to the clause which I have given
in italics: "Eodem anno, Johannes, Wellensis
prsesul, natione Turonicus consensu Willielmi Regis,
albo unguento manibus ejus delibatis transtulit in
Bathoniam, sui cathedram prsesulatus." Does it
mean that he bought the consent of the king with
money=silver 1 Rufus was not the man to do
much for nothing, or "to shake his hand from
holding of bribes." EDMUND TEW, M.A.
BURKE'S DORMANT AND EXTINCT PEERAGE, ed.
1866. — I was much surprised on turning over the
pages of this work lately to find the following
under "Archer, Baron Archer" : —
"One line, descending from Fulbert L'Archer the
Norman, was settled, at a very remote period, at Kilkenny
in Ireland, and its descendants -may still be traced in that
Kingdom, one being the present Graves C. Archer, Esq., of
Mount John, co. Wicklow."
How the author arrived at such an inference,
and conceived the idea of placing this gentleman
in so palpably inappropriate a situation, it is hard
to imagine. But this we all know, that the first
explanation of the origin of the Kilkenny Archers
was given by a member of the Royal Arch.
Society, in 1866, in an exhaustive paper, and that
there is no evidence whatever, first, that Mr. G. C.
Archer represents, in the male line, the Archers of
Kilkenny ; second, that he is in any conceivable
manner connected with the pedigree of "Lord
Archer"; but if the author will justify his assertion
by any evidence, however weak, I pledge myself to
join issue. R. C.
BEZIQUE (OR BE"SIQUE.) — What is the derivation
of this word ? W. J. W. JONES.
"BENE'T COLLEGE."— Corpus Christi College,
Cambridge, was formerly known by this name.
When and why was this familiar name dropped ?
T. J. B.
KNIGHT BIORN.— In a short German tale, by De
la Motte Fouque", called Sintram and his Com-
panions, the scene of which is laid in Norway,
me of the characters is called " Knight Biorn."
What is the meaning of Biorn in English ? The
story is founded on a picture by Albrecht Du'rer ;
[ should like to know what it represents.
F. E.
ANONYMOUS POEMS. — Wanted the names of the
authors of the following poems, and when and
where they first appeared in print : 1. The Address
o the Stars, beginning : —
" Aye, there ye shine, and there have shone
In one eternal hour of prime," &c.
2. The stanzas quoted by Longfellow in the 1st
Chapter of the 3rd book of Hyperion, commencing : —
" Come, golden Evening ! in the west
Enthrone the storm-dispelling sun," &c.
J. W. D.
HERALDIC. — To whom do these coats of arms
>elong ? Impaled, ar., 4 pallets, vert ; ar., a chev.
ngraUed, gu., between 3 mullets pierced, vert.
They are engraved on an old sun-dial in a very old
garden, which (as is stated in the parish quit-rent
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roll) together with the house and property " were
for many years in the Family of Symonds (noted
for the succour they gave King Charles the Second
in his Flight from Worcester)." From the Symonds
family they passed to the Conduit, Hide, and
Eichards families, and to Lord Hugh Seymour, who
sold them to the present possessors at the end of
the last century. B. L.
SMALL TABLES. — What was the use of the pretty
little walnut or mahogany tables one sometimes
sees in old-fashioned houses, which are about
twenty inches high, with a circular top, nine inches
or so across, and always with a raised rim ] I have
heard they were for a kettle and stand. Is this
so? P. P.
ENGRAVED PORTRAIT OF THE " FAIR GERAL-
DINE." — I have seen an engraving by Scriven after
the original picture of the " Fair Geraldine," the
subject of Surrey's sonnet, preserved at Woburn.
It was published by Longman, &c., in 1809. Can
any of your correspondents say what work it was
designed to illustrate 1 I believe she was the wife
of Lord Clinton when the portrait was taken, but
am not sure of this. Any information about this
interesting portrait, and the engraving taken from
it, will oblige. JAMES GRAVES.
Stonyford.
THE NAIL IN MEASUREMENT. — Why is the
arbitrary length of two and a quarter inches in the
mercer's measure designated a nail ? The hand of
four inches is no doubt the average breadth of the
human hand. M. D,
ADAM SMITH. — Is there any published work
that gives statistics showing the average acreage ol
land necessary to support one man ? Adam Smith
(Wealth of Nations, page 29, Murray's reprint),
says : —
" In the lone houses and very small villages which are
scattered about in so desert a country as the Highlands
of Scotland, every farmer must be butcher, baker, am
brewer for his own family."
If I could ascertain the acreage of these farms
when Adam Smith wrote, it would, give the infor
mation so far as Scotland is concerned, but th
sterility of the soil would prevent this giving an
average data. G. LAURENCE GOMME.
FACETIAE FACETIARUM PATHOPOLI. Apud
Gelastinum Severum, A° 1645. — Wanted, the
name of the author, place of publication, and anj
other particulars about this work. G. W. 0.
ISAACSON'S CHRONOLOGICAL TABLES (SATVRN
EPHEMERIDES) AND THOMAS FULLER. — In th
Eev. Stephen Isaacson's edition of Henry- Isaacson:
Life of Andrewes (Hearne, 1829), he says (p. xrL
that among the complimentary verses to the Chro
nology were lines by Fuller, the church historian
'hese do not appear, at any rate under Fuller's
ame, in the 1633 edition. Were they added
fterwards? J. E. BAILEY.
Stretford.
DR. JOHNSON. — Where shall I find a quotation
rom Johnson made by Macaulay, respecting the
all of two houses in Fleet Street 1 P. C.
United University Club.
SIR MATTHEW BALE'S MSS.— His legal MSS.
ire deposited in Lincoln's Inn Library ; but what
las become of his theological MSS., of which he
eft five folio volumes ? I ask the question because
am anxious to examine them. CYRIL.
SIR JOHN RERESBY'S MEMOIRS. — In speaking of
he Queen Dowager, Henrietta Maria, he says : —
" To give a little instance of her inclination for the-
inglish, I happened to carry an English gentleman with
me to court, and he, to be very fine, had got him a
garniture of rich ribbon to his suit, in which was a
mixture of red and yellow ; which the Queen observing,
jailed to me, and bad me advise my friend to mend hi».
'ancy a little, as to his ribbons, the two colours he had
oined being ridiculous in France, and might give the-
French occasion to laugh at him." — P. 163, 1st edition.
What was signified by the mixture referred to ?
J. C. CLOUGH.
Tiverton.
PORTRAIT OF LADY CATHERINE HYDE, DUCHESS
OF QUEENSBERRY. — At Drumlanrig Castle, the seat,
of the Duke of Buccleuch, in Dumfries-shire, there
is a beautiful picture of this lady, which may be
known to some of your correspondents, as it was-
long kept in London. The query I wish to have
answered, if it can be so, is, by whom was it-
executed 1 The history of the picture is the
following, and I believe it to be perfectly authentic.
When the Duchess was seventy-five years of
age, Lord Thurlow, then Attorney-General (1776),
gained a law-suit for her, and from a feeling of
gratitude for his services, she agreed, at his request,,
to sit for this picture for him. It descended from
him to a grand-niece, Mrs. Brown. At her death
it was left by her to her nieces, the Misses Ellis.
It remained with them till the last of them died,,
in 1860, when it was sold, and thus came into tLe-
possession of the Duke of Buccleuch. The picture
represents the Duchess, of whom Horace Walpole
wrote : —
" To many a Kitty Love his ear
Would for a day engage ;
But Prior's Kitty, ever fair,
Obtain'd it for an age,"
as still possessing in her advanced years great
beauty, and showing a most winning expression.
The head is curiously enveloped in a wnite kerchief.
A copy of this picture had long been in Drumlanrig,
but, when compared with the original, it is " Hy-
perion to a Satyr." I ask, then, if it be known by
whom this picture was executed.
C. T. EAMAGE.
5ft S. I. FEB. 23, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
169
EGBERT MAITLAND, third son of Sir Robert
Maitland, slain at the battle of Durham, A.D. 1346,
married the heiress of Shives and Gright, co.
Aberdeen. Who was she 1 GEORGE SHAND.
Heydon Rectory, Norfolk.
FERDORAGH. — What is the meaning of this Irish
name, or, as it is also written, Ferdorcha and
Feardoragh ? It occurs in two instances in my
family history. Ferdoragh Savage, circa 1580, had
two sons, elder Fordarrah (another form of spelling),
and Jenkin Boy, who were both killed fighting
against the O'Neils in Antrim. Boy means yellow
haired, and Jenkin was so called from his com-
plexion, and his name is easily explained ; but I
am anxious to know the signification of his brother's
and father's name. Another more remote ancestor
of mine was named Jenico. Does this mean
Jenkin? FRANCIS SAVAGE.
Army and Navy Club.
" As I sit within the rood loft while the thunder tones
are pealing
From the deep mouth of the organ as I touch it once
again."
Wanted, the name of the periodical, believed to
have been a Christmas number for 1868 or 1869,
in which the Rood Loft (the above being the first
two lines) appeared. D. H. M.
MUSEUMS AND NATURAL HISTORY SOCIETIES.
How can I get the names of these throughout the
kingdom? A. X. Y.
" To GET THE SACK." — What is the meaning of
this phrase ? This question being put lately to one
generally able to solve such inquiries, he sought to
conceal his inability by saying, " Oh, ask the Chan-
cellor"; and, upon its being pointed out that the
answer of the Ex- Chancellor and that of the Chan-
cellor in esse would necessarily differ, his answer
was, " Then ask ' N. & Q.' " WOOLGATHERER.
Athenaeum.
[And a very sensible answer it was, as our correspondent
•will see, if he refers to our 1st S. v. 585; vi. 19, 88.]
ON THE ELECTIVE AND DEPOSING POWER
OF PARLIAMENT.
(4th S. xii. 321, 349, 371, 389, 416, 459 ; 5» S. i.
130, 149.)
Before proceeding further, it is proper that I
should notice the copious and learned strictures
of W. A. B. C. First, I must again insist that the
question is one of fact, not of theory ; and it is
most important to keep fact and theory distinct.
Theories must be based on facts; and for that very-
reason it is necessary first to settle the facts, and
not to lay down a theory, and then seek to make
facts square with it. The question was raised by
ray denial of Mr. Freeman's statement, that the
" great council of the nation " has again and again
elected or deposed sovereigns ; whereas I, on the
contrary, asserted that in no single instance has the
" great council of the nation " asserted any sucb
power.
If the inquiry is extended to Saxon times, the-
result is only more strongly against Mr. Freeman's
statement ; for nothing is more remarkable in those
rude, barbarous, and turbulent ages ' than the
strength of the hereditary principle and the rare-
ness of departures from it except in cases of force
and violence, which it is admitted are of no weight.
Except in such cases, the rule of hereditary suc-
cession was never departed from in Saxon times ;
nor is there a single instance of election. The cases
which Mr. Freeman fancies are instances of election
are all cases of hereditary succession, quite regular
according to the idea of it then existing, which
was different from ours. The Saxons divided the,
inheritance, and had not adopted the rule of " repre-
sentation," i. e. of a deceased son being represented
in succession by his child; neither did they allow
of female succession to the crown. But they
adhered substantially to the rule of hereditary
succession; and all writers agree that the throne
never went out of the family, which alone shows
the crown was not elective. The rule was here-
ditary descent, as then received, and it was
never disturbed except by force and violence.
As to the chief Saxon monarchy, for instance,
whatever its extent, from Egbert to Edward,
through a line of fourteen kings, the crown
descended by hereditary succession, except the
interruption caused by Canute's conquest and
the succession of his sons ; and, on their death, we
are told by the Saxon chronicle that the people
acknowledged Edward for king, " as was his true
natural right"; that is by succession, as the son of
King Ethelred, who also, the chronicle says, was
called by the witan their natural lord, i.e. as is plainly
implied, by birth and descent. Not a single in-
stance of election of any one not of the royal family
can be found in Saxon times.
As to instances of deposition in Saxon times, they
were all cases of force and violence ; and it is idle to
dream of the Saxons as controlled by councils. As
Milton wrote, long ago : " Their actions were most
commonly wars, but for what cause waged, or by
what counsels carried on, no care was had to let
us know. Whereby their violence, we understand
of their wisdom, reason or justice, little or nothing ::
the rest superstition and monastical affectation."
This is very much the idea of Mr. Burke, Sir
James Mackintosh, and Mr. Hallam ; and it has
just been enforced with great vigour in Mr. Yeat-
man's interesting History of the Common Law in
Saxon Times. Even Mr. Freeman admits this,
and only ventures to rely on one case of deposition
in the Saxon times (earlier than Ethelred) ; and
Mr. Stubbs, in his valuable history just out, adds
another; but, on reference to the original authorities,
170
NOTES AND QUERIES.
(5th S. I. FEB. 28, 74.
it will be found that both were cases of force and
violence, that in neither is there the least allusion
to any " council," and that in one of them, the one
chiefly relied on by both -writers, it was a clear
oase of forcible ouster by an invader, a rival
•claimant of the crown ! Not a single instance of
•deposition by the act of any national council can
be found in Saxon times. Mr. Freeman mentions
only one prior to that of Ethelred ; and both were
• cases of expulsion by an invader. Ethelred was
driven from the kingdom by the arms of Canute,
who ultimately assumed the sovereignty of all
-England, by conquest, and, as Mr. Yeatman says
-•very truly, was really the first sovereign of England,
which is plainly implied in the language of the
"Saxon chronicle. No doubt one of the chronicles
-says that Canute was elected or chosen king, but
that only shows how loosely the phrase was used.
The Saxon chronicle says that when he fought
the last great decisive battle, the whole Eng-
lish nation fought against him, that he gained
the victory, that the English nobility were
destroyed, and that " then he obtained the whole
realm of the English." Then a later hand added,
that he was " chosen king," which, so far as the
English were concerned, clearly was because they
could not help it ; and it must be taken as mean-
ing that they chose to submit to him rather than
wage a useless struggle. But on his death his
sons succeeded, and on their death the son of
Ethelred succeeded, and the chronicle says he
was acknowledged for king " as his true natural
right." Thus, then, at the Conquest the crown was
clearly hereditary.
On Edward's death William was not the heir,
and he gained the crown by conquest. The notion
that the Conqueror was " elected" is rested on the
statement of his chaplain, William of Poitou, who
also says that the Confessor, at the advice of
Stigand and Seward, had left the crown to him, a
statement which, if true, would not sustain the
notion of election, but which is evidently false ;
for the persons named were both dead at the time,
and almost the last act of the Confessor was to
send for his nephew as the heir to the crown.
This shows that at the time of the Conquest the
crown was regarded &s hereditary ; and the Saxon
chronicle — an authority at once contemporary, and,
on such a point, undoubted— describes William as
obtaining the crown by conquest. It states that
after the battle of Hastings he waited to see if the
people would submit to him, and then ravaged
the realm until they did so, and that the chieJ
men then submitted to him — that is because they
could not help it. That was the only sense in
which he was ever "elected"; and Mr. Stubbs
admits that William himself never urged so false
and foolish a pretence, but that he claimed
the crown as the chosen heir of Edward, add-
ing, with equal truth, that it was a claim the
English did not admit, and of which the Normans
;hemselves saw the fallacy (258). But the other
dea, of election, is infinitely more absurd ; and all
ihat Mr. Stubbs could bring himself to write
was " that the form of election and acceptance was
observed," by which he means the coronation, in
which there was no " form of election " at all, and
most certainly never was an election in reality.
[t was the solemn recognition of a sovereign, on
lis solemn oath to rule according to law. The
Ignorant monkish chroniclers, indeed, regarded the
coronation as an election. Thus the Conqueror's
chaplain says he was elected king — " electus in
regem " — and crowned ; but by elected he meant
xowned : and the Saxon chronicle explains it ;
x>r it says, " the Archbishop hallowed (or con-
secrated) him king, and swore him, ere he would
set the crown on his head, that he would well
govern the realm." But this was simply a con-
dition imposed by the Church on the act of con-
secration, which, in those ages of superstition, was
supposed to invest the king with a sacred character,
as " the Lord's anointed." The ignorant monkish
chroniclers fell into two blunders — first, in supposing
that this consecration made the sovereign king ;
and next, in supposing that the condition imposed
by the Church on consecration was a sort of election.
And as the chroniclers and scribes, like the chancel-
lors, were ecclesiastics, hence the " regnal year" was
dated from the coronation, in absurd contradiction
both of fact and law. For beyond all doubt, in
law the royal heir was king the moment the right
descended on him by his father's death; and in
fact, sovereigns exercised the royal power from that
time, and often for weeks or months before their
coronation. Hume, with his usual acuteness, per-
ceived and pointed out the blunder : — " Such stress
was formerly laid on the rite of coronation, that
the monkish writers never gave any prince the
title of king till he was crowned (though he had for
sometime been in possession of the crown and
exercised all the powers of sovereignty" (vol. i.
c. 7).
At the Conquest, the old Saxon rule of an
hereditary monarchy was continued, and was
strengthened by the establishment of the feudal
system, which was essentially hereditary. Every
sovereign who has really been recognized by the
nation since the Conqueror has reigned by here-
ditary right. Every sovereign has so reigned
except such as have not been so recognized. The
Conqueror himself declared, in the charter in which
he guaranteed the nation the hereditary succession
of their lands, on condition of rendering the ser-
vices due to him : " prout statutum est eis et illis
a nobis datum et concessum jure hcereditario in per-
petuum per commune consilium totius regni nostri."
How could the sovereign guarantee hereditary
rights if his own sovereignty was not hereditary ]
The subsequent charters, also, were all based upon
. I. FJSB. 28, 174.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
171
the hereditary right of succession to the throne
For the king granted it for his heirs as well as for
himself, "pro nobis et hceredibus nostris in per-
petuum," — words which would have been idle unless
his heirs were to succeed to the crown. And so as
to the barons and all other freeholders of the realm,
the succession of their titles and estates to their
heirs was assured in the same charters, "hseres
habeat heereditatem suam." Thus the right of every
freeholder to his estate, and of every peer to his
title, rested on the same basis 'of hereditary right as
that of the sovereign to the crown. W. F. F.
(To be continued.}
"CoMPURGATORs" (4th S. xii. 348, 434, 497 ;
5th S. i. 72.) — The extracts given by ANGLO-SCOTUS
as from the Kirk-Session Records of Glasgow are
certainly not thence extracted, but appear to be
taken from a book — or rather a heterogeneous mix-
ture of books — called a History of Glasgow (1870,
p. 168); and no better instance could be given of
the danger of trusting to such second-hand infor-
mation than ANGLO-SCOTUS affords when he tells
us that members of the Kirk Session were paid for
performing their duties ! I have read of bishops
in Scotland enjoying the stipends which other
clergymen laboured for, but, without having seen
the Session Register of Glasgow, I will venture to
say that if ANGLO-SCOTUS can find there, or in any
other such record, an example of lay elders of the
Kirk being paid for their pious work, he will have
discovered something " not generally known."
Neither was it ever the duty of elders, lay or
clerical, to "lay hands on" delinquents of any
degree. That belonged to the civil magistracy;
and elders of the Kirk could only initiate those
means of reproof and correction which it has always
been one of the chief duties of the Christian Church
to employ.
The first extract given by ANGLO-SCOTUS refers
less to ecclesiastical than to the civil procedure
necessary to check the tumults that were common
in the streets at that period, and most probably it
records an order of the magistrates sitting in the
Session. A similar instance occurs during Arch-
bishop Lindsay's government —
" 1637. Sabbath, observance of— Aug. 18th. The Session
enact, that the Ports be shut on Saturday's night, and
Watchers set to observe Travellers." (Hist, of Glasgow,
p. 150.)
The part which the Church took in carrying out
such orders as those given in the second extract is
shown by another excerpt from the same autho-
rity:—
"1654. Sabbath, observance of. — The Session enacts
that the Ministers, time about, after Sermon on Sabbath
nights, do visit the Bridge with one Elder, and exhort
the people that flock there to go home." (Do., p. 173.)
But whatever share the Church had in these
measures, few will follow ANGLO-SCOTUS in calling
her discipline of her children according to the ideas
of the time "persecution"; and in the annals of
the Kirk under Episcopacy we have too many
instances of real persecution to leave any desire to
add to their number by exaggeration. ANGLO-
SCOTUS, who quotes Scott's novels as authority for
historical fact, and a peerage lawyer for proof of
the evil effects of the Eeformation on the morals
of a people, goes on to say what is usual about an
unknown entity called " Calvinism," and the
" sanctimoniousness " of the Scots character. I am
sorry to hear that we poor Scots are so soon to
lose, under the influence of " the larger country,"
the blessings of a Reformed Church, but I do hope
that your learned correspondent is too sanguine as
to the effect of that influence at least in one matter
which he speaks of — I mean excessive drinking.
There is no saying when one may not be overtaken
in the fault, and to a quiet man like myself it
must always be less painful punishment to be ob-
served (if they find me in the street) by such as
the " compurgators " of a hundred years ago were,
than to have policemen dragging me off for being
drunk in my own house, to be put in prison by a
police magistrate, as may be done in this year of
grace in Merry England. W. F.
LITHOTOMY (5th S. i. 106, 155.) — Lithotomy is
older than the time of Celsus. Hippocrates (ob. B.C.
361) forbade his pupils, by a solemn oath, to cut for
stone, as he considered that operation a speciality.
He gives no account of the manner in which it
was performed in his time. But Ammonius, sur-
named Lithotomus, of Alexandria, who lived about
150 years after Hippocrates, and Meges, in the
days of Augustus, both performed lithotomy in a
manner admitted by Celsus to be much like his
own operation of " cutting on the gripe." This
procedure was certainly undertaken in this country,
as in the rest of Europe, during the Middle Ages,
till it was superseded by the barbarous " Marian
operation," where the staff was first employed.
Dr. Douglas (History of the Lateral Operation,
London, 1726) remarks that the terms " cutting on
;he gripe "and "cutting on the staff "were" probably
borrowed from the Dutch, in which language these
ways of cutting were expressed by terms
analogous to them, and perhaps they came to be
;aken into the English language by being used by
ithotomists, whom we have had oftener than once
Tom Holland." The celebrated Frere Jacques de
Beaulieu brought the lateral operation into vogue,
but Cheselden, of St. Thomas's Hospital, in the
larly part of the last century, has the undoubted
merit of having first brought lateral lithotomy into
something like its present perfection, and com-
)arative safety to the patient. Pirrie (Principles
and Practice of Surgery, third edition, 1873) not
inly gives a clear account of the history of lateral
172
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5* S.I. FEB. 28, 74.
lithotomy, but also affords to the reader much
interesting information about the origin of the
median, suprapubic, and other varieties of the
operation. ALBAN DORAN.
Royal College of Surgeons.
" THE FAIR CONCUBINE ; or, the Secret History
of the Beautiful Vanella. Containing Her Amours
with Albimarides, P. Alexis, &c. London,
M.DCC.XXXII." 8vo. (5th S. i. 28, 76.) — Happening
to have a perfect print, I append the required copy
of the verses : —
" As the old Patriarch we in Scripture find,
Of teeming sheep by art the Breed confin'd,
And made his Lambkins o' the mottled kind,
So big Vanella, with a serious air,
Views ev'ry feature with attentive care,
To give her coming Boy his Father's Princely stare."
" The beautiful Vanella " indicates the Hon.
Anne Vane (eldest daughter of Gilbert, Baron
Barnard), who was Maid of Honour to Queen
Caroline, and P. Alexis represents Frederick,
Prince of Wales, whose mistress she beeaine, and
by whom she had a son, born in St. James's Palace,
and christened Cornwall Fitz-Frederick.
On the marriage of the Prince she retired with
her son to Bath, where, on 27th March, 1736, she
died unmarried, aged 26, her son having prede-
ceased her on 20th of the same month.
Johnson, in Vanity of Human Wishes, couples
with her the daughter of Sir Charles Sedley (mis-
tress of King James II., and by him created
Countess of Dorchester) in verse : —
" Yet Vane could tell what ills from beauty spring,
And Sedley curs'd the form that pleas'd the King."
The following lines apply, and the under-mentioned
publications have reference to the lady : —
" The fairest forms that nature shews,
Sustain the sharpest doom,
Her Life was like the morning Rose,
That withers in its bloom."
" Ev'n man, the merciless insulter, man,
Man, who rejoices in the sex's weakness,
Shall pity V , and with unwonted goodness,
Forget her failings, and record her praise."
Vanella in the Straw. A Poem. 8vo. London,
1732.
Vanelia ; or, the Amours of the Great. An Opera.
8vo. London, 1732.
Vanessa. The Humours of the Court; or, Modern
Galantry. A New Ballad Opera. 8vo. London, 1732
Alexis's Paradise; or, a Trip to the Garden of
Love at Vauxhall. A Comedy. 8vo. London, 1732
" Oh ! look Vanella, for my eyes impart
The sincere dictates of Alexis' Heart."
I have an excellent mezzotint engraving of th<
lady by Faber, from her portrait by Vander-Bank.
H. M. VANE.
74, Eaton Place, S.W.
" The beautiful Vanella " was Miss Vane, thi
well-known mistress of Frederick, Prince of Wales
She is referred to in A Satire on the Prince's
Marriage, 1736. EDWARD F. KIMBAULT.
"EMBOSSED" (4th S. xi. xii. passim; 5th S. i.
5.) — With respect to the All 's Well passage
iii. 1), " We '11 make you some sport with the fox
ere we case him," CROWDOWN (xii. 178) points out
hat " to case a hare is for to uncase, to skin him/'
This I had pointed out before (xii. 29, note).
STeither of us, however, has brought forward any
novelty, inasmuch as* Eichardson says the samer
is I stated in the aforesaid note.
Indeed, all the commentators on Shakspeare, and
all the dictionaries, so far as I am aware, agree in
giving the word the sense of "to skin" in this
passage. MR. FURNIVALL starts a contrary view
xi. 507), interpreting the word, as I understand,.
;o mean " to enclose as in a case or box " (xii.
298); he says, " before he accepts the other inter-
pretation, he must have proof that it was the
iustom of Lords and their followers to skin their
foxes when they caught 'em." He then cites one
passage from L'Estrange, in which the word " fox-
skin " occurs. Another may be found in Fletcher's
Woman's Prize, ii. 2, ad init., where the word is.
used figuratively : —
" Pray to Heaven that Rowland
Did not believe too much what I said to him,
For yon old foxcase forced me ; that 's my fear."
Here by " yon old foxcase " the lady means an aged
suitor of hers. Now, it will be observed that in
neither instance is any particular fox referred to ;
but the idea of a skinned fox seems to have been
familiar to the speakers' minds : I submit, there-
fore, that the two passages supply sufficient evi-
dence that the practice of skinning a fox was not
unfrequent in the seventeenth century.
To turn to another point. MR. JESSE (xii. 297)
says, " case may be a misprint for uncase." That
it is not a misprint, appears from the following
passages of Beaumont and Fletcher : —
" Bring out the cathounds :
I '11 make you take a tree, whore ; then with my tiller-
Bring down your gibship ; then have you cas'd
And hung up i' the warren."
Scornful Lady, v. 1.
"And where, man, have you been] at a poulter's?
That you are cas'd thus like a rabbit ?"
Little French Lawyer, iv. 5.
Tinker. Here comes a nightshade.
Dor. A gentlewoman whore :
By this darkness, I '11 case her to the skin.
Coxcomb, ii. 2.
Moreover, CROWDOWN (xii. 178) informs us that
" to case " is the current word in the kitchen for
" to skin."
It is evident that the proper word in this sense
is " uncase " ; but in course of time the negative
prefix was dropped, and " uncase " became " case."
There are many other words which have undergone
the same process of mutilation, of which I will
5* S. I. FEB. 28, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
173
only cite two : " embowel," which is frequently
used for "disembowel"; and "skin," which in
the common phrase " to skin a rabbit " surely
means " to unskin." F. J. V.
THE SINK AND THE FIEE : PROPHECIES, No. 3
(^ S. xii. 223.)—
"The synke & the fyre shalbe gyu'fullye brought.
And whe the fyre standythe vndr the synke / then stands
Englande w'out a rightous [rightful] kyng / but the vi
shall vpp & the synke shall vndr/ whe did men ryse there
wylbe moche wond'/."
This prophecy was given without any attempt
at an interpretation, that the readers of " N. & Q."
might exercise their ingenuity upon it, if they
chose, but a promise was subjoined that if no one
adventured a solution, I would myself suggest one.
A sufficient time having elapsed, the promise shall
be now redeemed.
The prophecy, I apprehend, points to Charles
I. and Oliver Cromwell. "The synke" is the
Parliament; "the fyre," the king; "the vi" is
Cromwell.
1. The synke. The Rump Parliament, which
voted that Charles should be brought to trial, was
the " fag-end," or sink, of the Long Parliament. A
sink is a place for offscourings, and the house
which contained the Rump was the sink into
which was poured the offscouring of the Long
Parliament.
2. The fyre. A passage from Shakspeare is so
pertinent that no apology is needed for its intro-
duction here. Bolingbroke, the usurper, says: —
" Methinks King Kichard and myself should meet
With no less terrour than the elements
Of fire and water. . .
He be the fire, I '11 be the yielding water ;
The rage be his, whilst on the earth I rain
My waters ; on the earth and not on him.''
Richard II. Act. iii. 3.
It would almost seem that the poet had " The
Sink and the Fire " prophecy in his eye when he
wrote these words.
3. The vi. "Cromwell, as Usurper." There
are only five orders in a peaceful and obedient
state — king, church, lords, commons, and people.
The sixth is a new order, introduced to disturb the
constitution. This well represents a usurper.
Cromwell was not one of the five regular orders of
the state, but a sixth or extraordinary one.
Substituting the things signified for the pro-
phetic symbols, the words may be paraphrased
thus : —
The Rump Parliament shall be brought by guile
into collision with the King. When the King has
been trodden under foot by the Rump Parliament,
England shall be ruled by one who is not its
"rightful king." For "the sixth shall up," the
usurper shall be paramount, Cromwell shall be
ruler, but at the same time " the sink shall under,"
the Rump Parliament, by which he rose to power,
shall be brought under. It was not only brought
under by him, it was absolutely dissolved and
stamped out.
The wonder is that the nation suffered all this
and did not rise in rebellion. Briefly thus: —
The Rump and the King shall be guilefully
brought (together). And when the King standeth
under the Rump, then stands England without a.
rightous (rightful) king. But Cromwell shall up,
and the Rump shall under. Whe'ne did men ryse
(why didn't men rise), there will be much wonder.
The word "whe" is the Anglo-Saxon hwene-
(whe"ne), scarcely, not at all. In the second line
we have the contraction for " when."
These old prophecies are certainly curious, and.
it is still more "passing strange" that they " speak
in sober meanings." I am not so presumptuous as.
to suppose that all "judgments, in such matters,,
will cry i' the top of mine," but this I will say with
candour, if any of your correspondents will suggest
more plausible interpretations " I will take up his,
opinion and forego my own."
E. COBHAM BREWER.
WELSH TESTAMENT (5th S. i. 9.)— The Welsh
Testament now in use is not translated " merely
from our English version," nor is it " merely " from
the original Greek. The translators, like sensible
people, used all the helps within their reach. I
remember hearing the late Rev. John James, of
Gellionen, who had made the subject a special study,
say that the translators were largely indebted to the
Vulgate. It can, however, be easily proved that they
did not confine themselves to that or any other ver-
sion. To a great extent they have adopted the style
and language of Dr. Morgan's version, printed 1588.
W. Salisbury's version (1567) appears to have been
less used. Salisbury professes to translate from the-
Greek and Latin. To be brief, I will just point
out a few cases where the translations differ, and
the reader may draw his own conclusions, (a) In
English the Greek words Scu/x,a>v and Sta^oAo?
are rendered by the one word devil ; but in all the
Welsh versions they are rendered respectively
cythraul and diafol. (b) Matt. xxv. 8, Salisbury
and English Common Version agree in reading;
" are gone out" ; Dr. Morgan and Welsh Common
Version, " are going out." (c) James i. 17, English
Common Version makes the one word gift represent
two different Greek words ; all the Welsh versions
use two words, (d) 1 John iii. 16, the Welsh
Common Version agrees with Vulgate and English
Common Version, while Salisbury and Dr. Morgan
differ from them and agree with the Greek. Cf. Al-
ford's or any other modern translation, (e) John v.
2, Dr. Morgan reads "sheep-gate"; Welsh Common
Version has been altered to correspond with English
Common Version, " sheep-mar^." Salisbury agrees
with Vulgate. ( /) Acts xx. 28, Salisbury agrees with
English Common Version, "feed"; Dr. Morgan
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and Welsh Common Version have " act the shep-
herd towards," or " shepherdize " ; Vulgate reads
" regere." (</) 1 John ii. 23, altered to correspond
with English. T. C. UNNONE.
CATHERINE PEAR (5th S. i. 128.)— The Catherine
pear was (and I believe is) very small, rosy-cheeked,
and named after the Queen of Charles II. I am
under the impression that I have read somewhere
that it was not particularly palatable. This is as
much " note " as can be made by
HERMENTRUDE.
When old Girard, in 1597, described the Pyrus
superba sive Katherina as the best pear, the num-
ber of known pears was very small. Parkinson,
in 1656, enumerates sixty-four varieties. Miller
gives upwards of two hundred, and the Fruit Cata-
logue of the Horticultural Society (Lond. 1831)
includes 677, in which list the Catherine pear is
IN"o. 172 ; most of these new, and very greatly
improved, varieties having come from France.
Miller says (ed. 1807) the Catherine pear, a
small red fruit, is yet common in the London mar-
Jkets, because it comes early, but it is a poor fruit.
Loudon mentions it (Arboret. ii. 882, 1838) as a
small, red early fruit still occasionally sent to
market.
I think Shenstone's lines —
" And here of lovely dye, the Cath'rine pear,
Fine pear ! as lovely for thy juice, I ween ;
Oh may no wight e'er pennyless come there, — "
are to be taken as the pleasant recollection of a
school-boy, to whom all fruit is lovely.
EDWARD SOLLY.
This pear is not extinct, nor has it changed its
name. It is to be still found in a few old orchards
in Cheshire, and it is somewhat valued by the
•country people, who appreciate a dry mealy pear
more than they do a rich juicy one. From this it
may be inferred that the Catherine pear is not of
very first-rate quality ; indeed its beauty, which
is undoubted, is, as suggested, only skin deep ; it
is a dry, mealy, though sweet pear, with an in-
tensely musky flavour. My almost next-door
neighbour has a Catherine-pear tree.
We have some rather curious names of old-
fashioned kinds of fruits in Cheshire, amongst
•which may be mentioned the Sanjem apple, a
small, prettily streaked variety, which is so early
that it is supposed to be ripe on St. James's
day (July 25th), whence the name. A large and
good cooking apple goes by the name of Traddle
Hole, from a tradition that the variety was raised
from a pip which a weaver found in the traddle
hole beneath his loom. But we have a pear which,
on account of its juiciness (juicy by comparison,
for it is by no means as melting as the pears of the
present day), rejoices in the elegant soubriquet of
Slobberchops. EGBERT HOLLAND.
THE " FREE CHAPEL " OF HAVERING-MERE (5th
S. i. 89.) — Free chapels, according to Tanner, were
places of religious worship, exempt from all ordi-
nary jurisdiction, although the incumbents were
generally instituted by the bishop, and inducted by
the archdeacon of the place. Most of these chapels
were built upon the ancient manors and demesnes
of the Crown for the especial use of the king and
his retinue when residing in the neighbourhood.
When, however, the Crown parted with the estates
in question, the chapels went with them, retaining
at the same time their original freedom. But those
lords of the soil who have had free chapels on their
manors that do not appear to have been ancient
demesnes of the Crown, such are thought to have
been built and privileged by grants from the Crown.
(See Tanner's Notit. Monast. xxviii.) Sir Simon
Degge says that the king may erect a free chapel,
and exempt it from the jurisdiction of the ordinary.
Dr. Gibson observes that many free chapels have
been in the hands of subjects, but it does not
follow that those chapels were originally of royal
foundation. Archbishop Stratford affirms that
ministers, officiating in oratories or chapels erected
by any of the kings or queens of England, or their
children, have no need of the licence of the ordi-
nary. (See Dr. Burn's Eccles. Law, vol. i. 275.)
In early times chapels were not unfrequently
granted in the court-house or manor-house of the
patron of a church as a privilege to himself and his
family, or for the benefit of one or more families
who lived some distance from the parish church ;
at the consecration there was commonly some fixed
endowment given to it. (See Gloss, of Gothic Ar-
chitecture, Parker.) W. WINTERS.
Waltham Abbey.
Parochial chapels, or chapels of ease, have always
been dependent upon the church of the parish, and
are served by the clergyman of the parish, or by
some priest deputed by him, and, like the church,
are usually under the visitation of the ordinary.
Free chapels were founded by the king, or by some
other lord, I presume with the king's licence, and
provided with a perpetual endowment and main-
tenance for the minister without charge to the
rector or parish. They were also specially made
exempt, or free, from episcopal or other jurisdic-
tion. JOHN MACLEAN.
Hammersmith.
"HOW THEY BROUGHT THE GOOD NEWS FROM
GHENT TO Aix" (5th S. i. 71.)— The question
whether this incident is a fictitious one is, I think,
easily answered. First, the title is accompanied by
a vague date, " 16 — "; an historical incident would
have been definitely dated or not dated at all.
Secondly, the good horse Eoland carries his rider
in one headlong gallop 120 miles, starting at mid-
night, and arriving a little after sunrise ; is such a
feat possible 1 S. FOXALL.
Edgbaston.
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THE GOTHIC FLORIN (5th S. i. 109.) — I suppose
W. B. means the first florin of Queen Victoria,
which is not so Gothic as the present one. Its
origin was as follows: — It being determined to
issue a coin value two shillings, to be called a florin,
a number of patterns were struck, and, of course,
the meanest-looking and worst one was selected,
and a large issue of it was the result. The outcry
at its appearance was natural, and it was withdrawn
for several reasons; amongst others were: —
1. That the diameter was too small. 2. That
" Dei Gratia " was omitted from the legend, earn-
ing for the coin the nickname of " The Godless
Florin." 3. That the portrait of the Queen was
execrable, being in fact no likeness at all. 4. That
the design was Gothic, whilst the inscription was
in dumpy Roman characters. 5. That the whole
business was a fine example of " the way how not
to do it."
After it had been current about a year, the
present florin was issued, which is a great improve-
ment on the "Godless one," but is not by any
means the best of the patterns, one or two of which
are very beautiful. NUMMUS.
VlSCOUNTY OF BUTTEVANT (5th S. i. 108.) — I
am pretty sure this claim was never established at
all. The title may possibly have been assumed, as
claimants to peerages have occasionally done, before
proof of their claims; lastly done, I believe, by the
claimant to the title of Baltinglass. But that is
an entirely unauthorized proceeding.
CHARLES F. S. WARREN, M.A.
" TEDIOUS" (5th S. i. 107.)— In Lancashire this
word is made to do duty in another sense. It is
used as almost a synonym for the word "parti-
cular." Ask a Lancashire man if he will have a
glass of beer or a glass of porter, and he will
answer that "he is not tedious (pronounced teadius)
about it," i. e., ht is not particular which kind of
drink he takes. The use of the word is very
common. H. FISHWICK.
" WE ARE SPIRITS," &c. (5th S. i. 87.)— Poem
by Christopher P. Crauch. painter and poet of New
York, son of the honoured Judge Crauch of Wash-
ington, U.S.A. W. H. C.
LT.-COL. LIVINGSTONE, 1689 (5th S. i. 108.)—
The "traitor" (as MR. CLEGHORN calls him) Lt.-
Col. the Hon. William Livingstone was the same
person who became third (and last) Viscount
Kilsyth, on the death of his brother James, in
1706. The "traitorous conspiracy," for which he
was imprisoned, was a plot between himself and
the Viscountess Dundee to bring over his regiment
to the standard of her illustrious husband, and in
this they partially succeeded. Some years later,
when Livingstone had made terms with the
Government and obtained his release, the widow
of Dundee married her husband's old ally. She
and her infant son perished tragically by the fall
of a house, in Holland ; Lord Kilsyth survived,
not only to marry a second wife, but to serve and
suffer for the White Eose once more, in 1715.
M. L.
"Bux THOU ART FLED," &c. (5th S. i. 108.)— The
lines, slightly misquoted, are from Shelley's
Alastor; or, the Spirit of Solitude. I will tran-
scribe the original, which will be found in the last
portion of the poem : —
" But thou art fled,
Like some frail exhalation, which the dawn
Robes in its golden beams, — Ah ! thou hast fled !
The brave, the gentle, and the beautiful,
The child of grace and genius."
FREDK. RULE.
ISABEL, OR ELIZABETH, WI#E OF CHARLES V.
(5th S. i. 107.)— The necrology of the Escorial
gives the following obituary notice : —
"Dona Isabel, Empress, Wife of Charles V., was the
Daughter of King Don Manuel of Portugal, by his second
Wife Dona Maria, Daughter of Their Catholic Majesties
(Ferdinand and Isabella).
"She was born at Lisbon, Oc'° 29, 1503; died at
Toledo, May 1, 1539. Her body was taken to Grenada,
and deposited in the Royal Chapel of the great Church
(Cathedral), and thence translated to the Escorial, Feby
4, 1574."
THUS.
The Empress, according to Ferreras, Histoire
Generate d'Espagne (tome ix., p. 213), died on
the 1st of May : — " Ayant accouch^ d'un enfant mort
le premier de Mai, elle expira sur le champ." Some
weeks previously, there had been a grand tourna-
ment at Toledo, which was preceded by a great
eclipse, and, as the historian expresses it, followed
by a great misfortune. The Empress was taken
ill on the 12th of April, and died on the 1st of
May, 1539. De Mayerne, Hist, of Spain (folio,
1612, p. 1000), says the infant died soon after the
Empress ; but the account given by Ferreras is
probably correct. EDWARD SOLLY.
" On June [8 was the goodliest solemnity ever seen
for the Emprys at Polls by the King's commandment,
and every church in London. Al Polls was hangyd a
lowits [?] wl blake clothe, with the arms of the Emperor
and the Empress, and in the said church of Polls a
goodly reche herse garnysshed about w* armes. . . . My
Lord Chancellor [Audley] presented the King's parsone ;
the Duke of Norfolk and Duke of Suffolk, with nine
earls, were mourners, and x bishops. The Bishop of
London sang mass; there was no preaching, but bells
ringing in all the parishe churches from Satterday at
none tyll Sonday at nythe." — Tho. Boyce to Arthur
Viscount Lisle, Lisle Papers, ii. 42.
HERMENTRUDE.
"CRACK": "WAG": "RAKE "(5th S. i. 124.)
— The explanation of " crack " given in your last
number and that which I have given of " wag "
in the last edition of my Dictionary mutually
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support each other. The latter is, I doubt not, for
waghalter (not ivagtail, as supposed by your
correspondent), and would thus be an exact
synonym of crackrope. The proper meaning of
wag is not " a pert person," but a rogue. " I had
rather prove a wag than a fool," says Crispinella,
in Marston's Dutch Courtesan; and in another
passage, by the same author, we have "I am a mad
waghalter." " Let them beware of wagging in the
galowes " — Andrew Boorde, p. 84.
Rake, for Rakehell, is another expression of the
same kind, the principle of which appears to be
that, while the original term expresses the reproba-
tion of the world at large, it is often used with
little feeling of repulsion for the character in ques-
tion, or even with some sneaking admiration, and
in that case the sting is taken out of the designa-
tion by docking it of the element which gives it
its real significance. H. WEDGWOOD.
HENRY HOARE'S CHARITY (4th S. xii. 447.) —
At the above reference I asked, is Henry Hoare's
Charity for the gratuitous distribution of Bibles,
Common Prayer Books, &c., doing equal good
with that of Philip Lord Wharton, for the same
purpose ] My inquiry has led to a large increase
in the demands upon Lord Wharton's Charity, so
as to cripple its resources; and I hope to be excused
for again asking what Henry Hoare's Charity is
doing. The editorial note appended to my former
query is simply a reference to a biographical notice
in " N. & Q." 1" S. v. 229. Probably one of the
published reports of the Charitable Trust Com-
missioners would solve my question, but these are
not easily accessible to me. M. D.
THE BLACK PRIEST OF WEDALE (5th S. i. 89.) —
A. S. A. has evidently consulted the notice of this
personage to be found in Riddell's Tracts on Scotch
Law, Edinb., 1833, p. 153. The first word in his
quotation from Wyntoun is misprinted " Quhae-
wyse." It should be Quhaewyre, i. e. " whoever."
Perhaps Mr. David Laing, in the forthcoming third
volume of his new edition of Wyntoun, may tell
something about the Priest of Wedale. Wedale
(the Vale of Woe, as some interpret it) was the
district of mountainous country lying at the head
of the Gala Water, on the marches between Edin-
burgh and Berwick shires. It is called by this
name in a deed dated circa 1180— William the
Lion settling a dispute between the monks of
Melrose and the Constable Kichard de Merville,
regarding the wood and pasture betwixt the Gala
and Leader (Lib. de Melros. pp. 100-3).
ANGLO-SCOTUS.
DOUBLE RETURNS TO PARLIAMENT (5th S. i. 104,
153.)— It is strange that W. J. M. should not
have read the Ballot Act, which gives the returning
officer, if an elector, a casting vote. D.
THE LATIN VERSION OF BACON'S " ESSAYS " (4th
S. xii. 474; 5th S. i. 13, 79.)— Hallani, Lit. of
Europe, ii. 395, says : —
" It is generally supposed that the Latin works were
translated from the original English by several assistants,
among whom George Herbert and Hobbes have been
named, under the author's superintendence. (Note : —
The translation was made, as Archbishop Tenison informs
us, ' by Mr. Herbert and some others, who were esteemed
masters in the Roman eloquence.') .... But Rawley,
in his Life of Bacon, informs us that he had seen about
twelve autographs of the Novwm, Organum, wrought up
and improved year by year, till it reached the shape in
which it was published, and he does not intimate that
these were in English, unless the praise he immediately
afterwards bestows on his English style may be thought
to warrant that supposition. I do not know that we have
positive evidence as to any of the Latin works being
translations from English, except the treatise De Aug-
mentis."
R. B. S.
Glasgow.
"LIKE" AS A CONJUNCTION (5th S. i. 67, 116,
157.) — When I was a boy, I asked my Gamaliel
why the conjunction like should have the objective
case after it. He replied, it is not a conjunction ;
it is an adjective that requires the preposition to
or unto, either expressed or understood, after it.
He added, read your Bible if you wish for
examples of correct English. Following this
advice, I found, by the aid of Cruden : —
" So that there was none like thee before thee, neither
after thee shall any arise like unto thee." — 1 Kings iii. 12.
" Lest if thou be silent to me I become like them that
go down to the bottomless pit." — Psalm xxviii. 1.
" Man is like to vanity." — Psalm cxliv. 4.
" Art thou become like unto us." — Isaiah xiv. 10.
" Be not ye therefore like unto them." — Matthew vi. 8.
" The Kingdom of Heaven is like unto a treasure — like
unto a merchant man." — Matthew xiii. 44, 45.
" We shall be like him." — 1 John iii. 2.
" But made like unto the Son of God." — Hebrews vii. 3.
and two columns of other instances. So in
Shakespeare : —
" Said I, for this the girl was like to him."
King Henry VIII., Act v., sc. 1.
I cannot find in any dictionary that I have that
the word like is given as a conjunction.
The Athenceum, two or three weeks ago, ur*d
the expression like he. Can the editor justify this
by any quotation from »n English classic 1
CLARRY.
I had supposed this was a vulgar form of speech ;
but I find in the dramatic criticism of the Athenceum
for February 14 the following passage : " A man,
however, so situated, and mixing in the world like
he, would adopt," &c. QUIVIS.
BERE REGIS CHURCH (4th S. xii. 492 ; 5th S. i.
50, 117, 154.) — MR. TEW is of course right as to
conculces, and decessor. I had forgotten the
meaning of the latter word, which is not frequent,
and which properly seems to mean a predecessor in
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
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an office. I had been driven, in reliance on the
badness of the Latin, to construe it (intolerably, I
admit) as if it had been " ad quisquilias cum
decessisset," and so to connect it with sepositce.
Also, I had forgotten (for the moment) how to
spell the derivatives of calco.
MR. TEW and MR. WARREN are also no doubt
right as to prtzdiator, a word I had never noticed.
It has good classical authority besides that MR.
TEW assigns to it.
" Comma after narcoticum " was a slip of mine
for " colon/' as indeed appears from my own version.
" Whence " is a misprint, which I should have
corrected. I wrote " where," which I still think
right : some sort of authority will be found for it
in the Lexicons. Even allowing for the bad Latin,
MR. TEW'S version seems to me most awkward,
putting the relative after the antecedent, requiring
" fuit " to be supplied after " devictus," and dis-
locating the whole construction.
Lastly, I have to admit yet another blunder : I
liad read MDCXXXIIIX as if it was MDCXXXIX.
LYTTELTON.
"PRESTER JOHN" AND THE ARMS OF THE SEE
OF CHICHESTER (4th S. xii. 228, 294, 457 ; 5th
S. i. 15.) — The question seems to be, to my mind
.at least, was there not a more ancient seal of this
see than those mentioned by MR. WOODWARD
.and MR. WALCOTT? As Bishop Seffrid II. (1109)
after rebuilding the church altered the style of
dedication, might he not, at the same time, have
altered the Episcopal seal ? It was first dedicated
to St. Peter, most probably by Stigand, after his
removal of the see from Selsea. And it is a curious
fact that this translation took place just at the
very time when the accounts of Prester John were
making so much noise in the world. " Towards the
conclusion of the preceding century" (the llth),
writes Mosheim. "died Koiremchan, otherwise
called Kenchan, &c." " This was the famous Prester
John, whose territory was, for a long time, con-
sidered by Europeans as a second paradise, as the
seat of opulence and complete felicity." (Eccl.
Hist. vol. iii. p. 9, 8vo. 1782.) I submit then, that
this /wror might have taken hold of Stigand equally
with others, and have led him to adopt it, or rather
the subject of it, as the blazon of his seal. MR.
"WALCOTT seems to conclude that his view must
be correct, because " the church was dedicated to
the Holy Trinity," and that " the dedication was
called either Holy Trinity, or Christ Church"; and
there would be force in this, if the blazon on the
arms were always emblematical of the dedication
or had special reference to it, but this is certainly
not the fact. I will add to this that " the latter
part of the seventeenth century " seems a very odd
time for changes such as this to have taken place.
I wonder who, in those days, knew much, or
thought anything of Prester John.
MR. WOODWARD speaks of the " Mythical Pres-
ter John," evidently insinuating that no such
person ever existed. I take exception to this
wholly, believing it to be a fact as well authenti-
cated as any in history of a date so distant. Canon
Robertson says (Hist, of Christian CJiurch, vol.
iii. p. 141):—
"About the middle of the eleventh century stories
began to be circulated in Europe as to a Christian nation
of north-eastern Asia, whose sovereign was, at the same
time, king and priest, and was known by the name of
Prester John. Amid the mass of fables with which the
subject is encumbered, it would seem to be certain that,
in the very beginning of the century, the Khan of Kerait
was converted to Nestorian Christianity," &c.
The whole passage is too long for quotation. I
refer the reader to the book ; also to Jeremy
Collier's Dictionary, sub voce " Prester John."
EDMUND TEW, M.A.
POLYGAMY (4«> S. xii. 427, 500 ; 5tt S. i. 99.)—
Dioscor, 3, 16, has 6tj\v(f)66pi.ov, which Stephanus
renders, i. q. abrotonum. E. S. CHARNOCK.
Gray's Inn.
" SPURRING " (4th S. xii. 44, 295, 398 ; 5th S. i.
37, 56.) — This word has strangely exercised the
minds of some, and to small purpose, your last cor-
respondent merely repeating a previous one. Yet
spor, spur, sper, speer, &c., is a word by no means
unknown to dictionary-makers, or strange to our
tongue, whether spoken or written, ancient or
modern. It is (1) a common household word in
Scotland, and sometimes heard in the north of
England ; (2) frequent in old English : see Mr.
Skeat's Havelok the Dane, and his William of
Palerne, or Mr. Morris's Sir Gawayne, or the
Promptorium ; (3) in the Anglo-Saxon (if one dare
still use that term) and the Icelandic ; (4) in
German under the form spuren, which stands
phonetically between the Lancashire or Hallamshire
" spur " and the Scottish " speer" ; (5) in modern
book-English as " spoor." The spoor of an elephant
is its track or footstep. So the German spuren
means to track, to follow the trail of, to search, to
"speir" or ask after, to investigate. Near the
beginning of his well-known Ballad of the, Bell, you
may remember that Schiller says of Labour : —
"Das ist's ja, was den Menschen zieret,
Und dazu ward ihm der Verstand,
. Dass er im innern Herzeri spiiret
Was er erschafft mit seiner Hand."
E. E. A.
" INGS " (4th S. xii. 401, 482 • 5th S. i. 35.)— I
remember with gratitude M.'s first article on this
and other Cumbrian words, and am happy to be
able to report at least four Yorkshire Ings. Raw-
cliff e Ings and Clifton Ings, in the Wapentake
of Buhner, and Haddlesey Ings and Kellington
Ings, in the East Eiding, are all of them familiar
to me from childhood. Carrs also are to be found
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in the county ; Gristhorpe Carrs near Filey, for
instance.
M. deserves our thanks for seeking to extend
the knowledge of such words as these : they may
be " obscure," but, like many other obscure things
and persons, they are both apt and beautiful. As
to the word Ings, it is not wholly unknown to
contemporary verse, as appears by the following
stanza, which I take from a book at hand : —
" Not now upon the silent Ings,
Alone with fancy's make-believe,
I watch the grey decline of things
That marks another New Year's Eve."
A. J. M.
SCOTTISH TITLES (4th S. xii. passim ; 5th S. i.
17, 57.) — In reply to W. M., I would say that, in
my opinion (which must be taken at its worth), if
Sir John Schaw held Greenock under a subject
superior, he was only, according to ancient usage,
Gudeman thereof; and as such his wife might
have been called, without impropriety, the " Gude-
wyfe of Greenock " ; yet would not in general be
so, but rather Lady Schaw, Lady being a higher
title, enjoyed by her from her husband being a
knight or baronet. I place the right to use the
title Lady Greenock — distinct from that of Lady
Schaio — upon Sir John's being Dominus, or Laird
of Greenock. There is in this no subtilty per-
ceivable ; and a correct is always the safer answer.
There is an old rhyme applicable to a Duke of
Hamilton, illustrative of the distinction and my
idea, which is here given ; it being premised that
the dukes were once, if not now, de facto lairds of
Kinneill, yet only Gudemen of Draffen : —
" Duik Hamiltoun and Brandoun,
Erl Chatelrow, and Arran,
The Laird of Kinneill,
The Gudeman of Draffen."
L. L.
LORD LIGONIER (4th S. xii. 490 ; 5th S. i. 55.)—
I beg to refer M. to 4th S. xii. 489, from which he
quotes, where he will find these words — " I have
not tested the allusions and references to persons,"
&c. The " statement " was not made by me, but
is simply a reference, or annotation, by the Rev.
A. M'Whorter.
On referring to Burke's Peerage, consequent on
reading M.'s query, I find that I am in perfect
accord with the latter, who may perhaps be suffi-
ciently interested in Earl Beauchamp's pedigree to
refer the question to Mr. M'W., whose address I
shall be happy to give, but who, prima facie,
seems to have made a slip, so apparent, however,
as really to be of very little consequence.
J. H. L. A.
" JACARANDA " (5th S. i. 28, 76.)— If B. will refer
to London's Cyclopedia of Plants, he will find the
Jacaranda accurately described, just as I myself
have seen and identified it, as in British Guiana. It
is not suitable for private conservatories, but
would be a great ornament to those of Kew and
Edinburgh, which now contain lofty palms, &c.
Colonial botanical nomenclature is often very
deceptious ; in other words, many plants are known
by wrong names, like the Himalayan Daisy, the
Cape of Good Hope Gooseberry, &c. SP.
TWELFTH DAT (5th S. i. 107, 155.)— My authority
for fixing on July 10 as St. Knud's day is Baron
von Reinsberg Diiringsfeld, who, in his work
entitled Das Wetter im Sprichwort, p. 155, says,
" In Danemark (man spricht); St. Knud (10 Juli)
treibt die Bauern mit Sensen aus." There were at
least two saints of this name, as one, an account of
whom is given in Baring-Gould's Lives of the
Saints, vol. i., p. 289, sub Jan. 19, was slain in
1068 ; while, in Thorpe's Northern Mythology,
vol. ii., p. 217, another is referred to as having
been murdered in 1129. CHARLES SWAINSON.
Highhurst Wood.
EPITAPH ON A TOMBSTONE AT , NEAR
PARIS (5th S. i. 46, 95.) — Having wasted my time
over this inaccurate epitaph, allow me to revenge
myself by pointing out that not one of your four
contributors really solves the riddle, which is, in
fact, insolvable. Of course, if step-sons and step-
grand-daughters are to be considered the same as
sons and grand-daughters, and half-sisters and
half-brothers to be counted as sisters and brothers,
the puzzle is explicable ; but it is hardly fair to
conceal the mysticism, and still less so to parade a
sham.
To show how easily people get confused over
terms of relationship, let me refer to the recent dis-
cussion about Canning's parentage, where father
and step-father were deliciously mixed up, and the
matter nearly settled by arranging that the wife's
sister's husband was the man's brother-in-law,
which he was not.
Sam Weller addressed his step-mother as mother-
in-law, and followed the practice of his class, but
he must not be considered as thereby giving
authority to an error in language. W. T. M.
Shinfield Grove.
HART HALL, HERTFORD COLLEGE (5th S. i. 51,
74, 133.) — Why did Lord Holland send his son,
who would have been joyfully received at any
College, to one which never was of even secondary
importance 1 Its lowest state, in 1818, is thus
noticed by Boone : —
" He too was here, whose bright, undying ray —
Why saved it not his college from decay ]
Yet still that college lives, though empty halls
And silent eloquence of mouldering walls
Tell how one doom awaits the great and sage ;
And Science yields to Fashion and to Age :
Yet still it lives— the memory of that name
Secures a bright eternity of fame;
5th S. I. FEB. 28, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
179
To patriots dear shall be the patriot's home,
And where Fox was, oblivion shall not come."
The Oxford Spy, Diet, ii., p. 20. Oxford, 1818.
H. B. C.
U. U. Club.
In Lockhart's story of Eeginald Dalton, we
read: —
"Altho' Hart Hall has disappeared, we trust the
authorities have preserved the window from whence the
illustrious C. J. Fox made the memorable leap, when
determined to join his companions in a Town and Gown
row."
T. J. BENNETT.
MOSES OF CHORENE (5th S. i. 49, 113.)— See, in
Rawlinson's Bampt. Led, (notes to Lect. ii., n. 48,
p. 43), p. 274 :—
" Ha'icus or Hiag, the fifth descendant of Japhet, son
of Thacloth, or Togrrmah, revolts from Belus or Nimrod,
and withdraws from Babylon to Nineveh, where he
establishes himself." — Moses Choron., Hist. Arm., i. 6-9,
Arm. et Lat., Loud., 1736.
ED. MARSHALL.
MNEMONIC CALENDAR FOR 1874 (5th S. i. 5,
58.) — The use of the old mnemonic distich —
" At Dover dwelt George Brown, Esquire,
Good Christopher Ford, and David Fryar,"
may be greatly simplified by discarding all refer-
ence to the dominical letter of the year, treating
the above twelve words as representing the twelve
months from January to December, but considering
the days of the week represented by their initials
as relative only to each other, and not to the
standard of a known dominical letter. For instance,
it is required, on Monday, the 4th of May, to
know on what day of the month the first Monday
in November of the same year will fall. May
being represented by Brown, and November by
David, the 4th of November will fall on the day
having the same reference to Monday as D has to
B, i. e., on Wednesday, and the previous Monday
is therefore the 2nd day of the month. J. F. M.
STOBALL (4th S. xii. 516; 5th S. i. 34.)— This is
doubtless the same as stoolball, still common in
Sussex; and also called "women's cricket." It is
played by girls and women at fairs, &c. At school-
feasts, the clergymen's families and neighbouring
gentry frequently join. I have known matches
played by the gentry of one parish against those
of another parish. The rules are, I believe, the
same as at cricket. The wicket consists of a board
of about a foot square, nailed to the top of a strong
pointed stake, of from four to five feet high, stuck
firmly into the ground. The bowler aims at this
board. The bat is a flat piece of wood, in shape
something like a battledore, but with a shorter
handle. I have never heard any satisfactory deri-
vation or meaning for the name. B. Y. H.
NOTES ON BOOKS, &c.
Calendar of State Papers. Domestic Series of the Reign
of Charles I., 1639, preserved in Her Majesty's Public
Record Office. Edited by W. Douglas Hamilton.
(Longmans.)
00R limited space would not suffice to show how im-
portant, interesting, and amusing this volume is. We can
only record the fact, and add that the roar of the coming
hurricane can almost be heard throughout the whole
record. Church, State, and People seem all equally dis-
turbed. Actors and dramatic poets are as sharply looked
after as other people. We can hardly realize the idea
now, that to ridicule aldermen on the stage, or for
dramatists to speak of proctors as knaves, brought down
the law on the offenders. We read, too, with some
astonishment, that "the players of the Fortune were
fined 1,0001. for setting up an altar, a basin, and two
candlesticks, and bowing down before it upon the stage ;
and although they alleged it was an old play revived, and
an altar to the heathen gods, yet it was apparent that
this play was revived on purpose, in contempt of the
ceremonies of the Church." " If," says the writer, Edmund
Rossingham, to Lord Conway, " my paper were not at an
end, I would enlarge myself on this subject, to show
what was said of altars." We have gone to the other
extreme, and now-o'-days even the Cross figures in
mediaeval processions in burlesques !
The Family Worship Book. (Bagsters.)
THIS book contains portions of Scripture, with com-
mentary, for family reading throughout the year.
Justifiable credit is taken for " the elimination of unsuit-
able passages." This, in one instance at least, breaks up
a story in some confusion. Thus, in the reading from
the 39th of Genesis, the verses between 6 and 19 are
omitted. Potiphar's wife's complaint is rendered un-
intelligible, and perhaps the story might well be omitted
altogether.
Clarendon Press Series. — German Classics: Lessing,
Goethe, Schiller. Edited, with English Notes, &c.,
by C. A. Buchheim, Ph.D. Vol. III. (Macmillan.)
Minna von Bamheim. A Comedy. By Lessing. (Oxford,
Clarendon Press.)
DR. BUCHHEIM, as the editor of this series, requires no
praise. He has long ago secured it, and deserved what
he has secured. His life of Lessing shows his merits as
a biographer ; his critical analysis and his notes give the
more than usual proof of his scholarship and sound judg-
ment ; and this comedy of Lessing's is one of the most
amusingin the German repertoire. There is, indeed, almost
as much"talk" in it as in any of Inland's; but, if it is not
always to the purpose, it is never dull. Students will
do well to profit by this work and the help afforded them
by Dr. Buchheim to comprehend it. Lessing indicated
his own bent when, at five years old, his portrait was
about to be taken with a bird-cage at his side : " You
must paint me," he said, "with a great, great heap of
books, or I won't be painted at all."
Sheffield, Past and Present. Being a Biography of the
Town during Eight Hundred Years. By the Rev.
Alfred Gatty, D.D. (Sheffield, Rodgers; London,
Bell & Sons.)
DR. GATTY 's volume is an excellent example of how much
a man may say to useful purpose in a small space, if lie
will only keep to his subject, and not go astray in search
of what is not worth looking after. The story of Sheffield
is capitally told between a modest preface and a good
index. In these times it is something very agreeable to
find a gentleman so competent as Dr. Gatty, having the
leisure as well as the inclination and ability to complete
180
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5th S. I. FEB. 28, 74.
such a history of Sheffield as the one before us. It shows
how a writer, having the rare power of condensation, can
say more in a handy volume of little more than 300 pages
than some of the old dry-as-dust collectors in half-a-dozen
folios. There are many incidents of great interest in the
volume. More than one will raise a smile. As, for
instance, when we read of John Bright, of Greystonesand
Whirlow, wasting his estate by folly and dissipation, and
having " boon companions " helping and helped to go the
same way.
IN Dark Sayings of Old (James Nisbet & Co,), by Rev.
Joseph B. M 'Caul, are a series often lectures elucidating
certain difficult Scriptural passage?. The author's an-
nounced firm allegiance to the Anglican Communion is a
key to his writings ; he defends Catholic Christianity from
the assaults of Deistic teaching; mere acquiescence in
the existence of the Creator is not religion ; Unitarianism
must be guarded against by Trinitarians. Mr. M'Caul
proceeds to show the reality of a future retribution. This
will be of such a nature that a spiritual, immortal essence
can undergo it. To pretend that beasts co-exist with
man, expecting the Judgment Day, is to state a palpable
folly, and to employ miserable sophistry. Mr. M'Caul
concludes his book with a series of sermons thoughtfully
composed, and worthy of being carefully read.
DEATH OF WILLIAM SANDYS, ESQ., F.S.A. — (From a
Correspondent). — Who that loves an old carol, who that
knew the amiable and accomplished author of Christmas
Carols, Ancient and Modern, with the Airs to which they
are Sung, but will hear with deep regret of the death, on
the 18th inst.," at the ripe age of eighty-two, of William
Sandys, one of the oldest Fellows of the Society of
Antiquaries. When he left Westminster to follow the
profession of the law, he took with him a love of scholar-
ship, which showed itself in his first book, a volume of
Specimens of Macaronic Poetry, and led him to occupy
his leisure hours in literary and antiquarian studies, the
results of which often appeared in " N. & Q." Many
great and good men were among Mr. Sandys's con-
temporaries at Westminster, — among others, Archbishop
Longley and the late Duke of Richmond. The good
Archbishop and the gallant Duke have gone to their rest,
but there remains one who still discharges, with advantage
to the public service and credit to himself, a high official
appointment ; and having said this, we may safely add
that Westminster School never turned out a truer gentle-
man than William Sandys.
ME. C. SHIRLEY BROOKS. — The London newspapers
have recorded the death of the above-named gentleman,
whose name has sometimes appeared subscribed to his
contributions to "N & Q." Trained to the law, he
turned from it to literature. He was a parliamentary
reporter, a journalist, an " own correspondent," a drama-
tist, a novelist, and, finally, editor of Punch. One of the
most characteristic traits of "Shirley Brooks" the
chroniclers have not told. Some years ago, a fellow
journalist suddenly died-; " Shirley " took his old comrade's
work, in addition to his own, for a year, in order that
the widow might receive that year's salary. It was a
noble subscription in her behalf.
MR. ROBERT WHITE.— We regret to learn, from the
Newcastle Daily Chronicle, the death, at the age of
seventy-two, of this self-taught and able Scotsman. He
was distinguished as a northern poet, historian, and
antiquary ; and he was an occasional, but always welcome
contributor to " N & Q."
MR. THOMAS WISE, Brighton, writes :— " I am seeking
for materials for a monograph of the life of George Fox,
the most distinguished of the founders of Quakerism, as
a representative religious system. In his remarkable and
instructive journal, Fox mentions that his mother (Mary
Lago) was descended from the Lago family, which had
given its quota to the roll of Christian martyrs. The late
B. B. Wiffen (brother of J. H. Wiflfen, the poet), a Spanish
scholar, suggested to me, some years since, the idea that
the Lagos were Spanish martyrs. Can any one aid me
with a solution of the question ]"
THE following shows how names undergo change : —
" Cariole, Carryall. — In an American account of the last
illness of the Siamese Twins, it is stated they were con-
veyed in a waggon or carry-all. HYDE CLARKE."
BOCKKS A'ND ODD VOLUMES
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Particulars of Price, &c., of the following books to be sent direct to-
the person by whom they are required, whose name and address are
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CAMBRIDGE IN THE XVII. CENTURY.
LIVES OF NICHOLAS FKRRAR. By Prof. Mayor.
TRACTS relating to Basing House in the Civil War.
CHANDLER'S HISTORY OF BASING HOCSE.
Wanted by J. E. Bailey, Esq., Stretford, Manchester.
to Corro&outenfcS.
WICCAMICUS. — " A light that never was on sea or land,"
Wordsworth, " suggested by a picture of Peele Castle in
a storm."
RES. SEA. — On the occasion to which you allude, the
lecturer did not quote the exact words in which Addison
wrote of Chaucer, but only alluded to the fact. The
lines occur in An Account of the Greatest English Poets,
addressed " To Mr. Henry Sacheverell," and are as fol-
lows : —
" Chaucer first, a merry bard arose,
And many a story told in rhyme and prose.
But age has rusted what the poet writ,
Worn out his language and obscur'd his wit :
In vain he jests in his unpolish'd strain,
And tries to make his readers laugh, in vain."
COLTJMB. — There was an edition of Moliere's works
published in 1666 ; but the first edition, of which Moliere
was himself the editor, appeared in 1673, the year of the
author's death. Thierry was the publisher, as he was
of the edition of 1674. As the edition of 1673 is pro-
nounced by the Revue Bibliographique Universelle to be
" introuvable," and as that of 1674 is said to have been
prepared, if not seen through the press, by Moliere be-
fore his death, it is possible that the issues of the two
consecutive years really formed one and the same edition.
C. A. JONES. — We do not wonder that only " a very
small portion " of the papers you have sent to " N. & Q."
was delivered at the University named. We can only
wonder that any one present survived that portion.
"Hie ET UBIQUE." — The late Chief Justice Chase
(U.S.) originally kept fa school in Georgetown, D. r>.,
where Major-General Meade, when a boy, was one of his
pupils.
J. H. says that the " Conversion of Colonel Quag "
(5th S. i. 148) is a story which appeared in Household
Words, vol. x. 459, Dec. 30, 1854.
NOTICE.
Editorial Communications should be addressed to " The
Editor " — Advertisements and Business Letters to " The
Publisher "—at the Office, 20, Wellington Street, Strand,
London, W.C.
We beg leave to state that we decline to return com-
munications which, for any reason, we do not print ; and
to this rule we can make no exception.
To all communications should be affixed the name and
address of the sender, not necessarily for publication, but
as a guarantee of good faith.
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
181
LONDON, SATURDAY, MARCH 7, 1874.
CONTENTS.— N° 10.
NOTES :— Curiosities of Corporate Records, 181— Robespierre,
a Poet— Eegistrura Sacrum Batavianum, 182— The Life and
Opinions of Pietro Sarpi, also known as Padre Paolo of
Venice, 184— A Test for tne Genuineness of some of Chaucer's
Poems, 185— Monumental Inscriptions— Fifty Years Ago—
Sir Isaac Newton, 186.
QUERIES :— " The London Chronicle "—Family of Marshall of
Carrigonon, Cork— Seal of Hon. Thos. St. Lawrence, LL.D.,
Dean of Cork, 187— "Quintus Servington"— OwenGlendower:
Mortimers, Lords of Wigmore : Vestynden — Heraldic —
Swale of South Stainley, Liberty of Knaresboro— A " Coast "
of Lamb— The Savoy Chapel, London—" Aimless," a Poem-
William Masey — Comin Family — Palace of Alcina —
"Monstrat per vultum quod sit sub corde sepultum," 188—
"All Lombard Street to a China Orange" — "A drimble-pin
to wind the sun down " — "Scots wha hae " — Lul worth Castle,
189.
REPLIES:— On the Elective and Deposing Power of Parlia-
ment, 189— "A Biographical Peerage," 191— Scottish Family
of Edgar — Cymbling for Larks— Browning's "Lost Leader"
— "Chaffwax," 192— Medieval Wines— "Cloth of Frieze,"
193— Ballad on Martinmas Day— Shotten Herring— "The
Oroves " — Jocosa — Sir Thomas Strangeways — Unsettled
Baronetcies — Death's Head and Cross Bones, 194— Philip of
Spain and the Order of the Garter— Heraldic— The ' ' Christian
Year "—Jay : Osborne, 195— Short-hand Writing— Dr. Isaac
Barrow, Master of Trinity — Captain Grant and Sir William
Grant— Grinling Gibbons— Dr. Johnson — Unlawful Games
of the Middle Ages— Gen. Thomas Harrison — New Moon
Superstitions, 196— Simpson Arms— Heraldic— The Acacia—
"Gordano" — The Pomegranate — Logary's Light— Sunday
Newspapers, 197 — Monumental Inscriptions— Prince Rupert,
198.
Notes on Books, &c.
CURIOSITIES OF CORPORATION RECORDS.
The Corporation of Weymouth, entertaining a
proper sense of the value of their remaining Kecords,
have determined on re -binding and restoring such
of the volumes as need attention.
The first of the list, a large manuscript folio,
containing records of the law courts held during the
reigns of James I., Charles I., the Commonwealth,
and the earlier part of the reign of Charles II.,
passed through my hands recently, and gave me
an opportunity of dipping into its interesting con-
tents. The items are, of course, mostly of local
importance only. There are two or three matters,
however, which I should like to descant upon, with
the view of eliciting further information from your
numerous antiquarian subscribers.
The first concerns the eating of bull beef: —
" Placita : Court, of Weymouth and Melcombe Regis.
Aug. 25th, 1618.
" Upon this present day Edward Hardy Butcher one
of the searchers sworne and apointed for the viewinge
and searcliinge of corrupte fflesh killed within this
Borrough and Towne sayeth and presenteth upon his
said oath that John Kingston Boutcher there within this
Borroughe and Towne upon ffriday beinge the fourtenth
day of this instant moneth did kill a Bull unbayted and
did put the flesh thereof unto sale and thereupon he is
amersed by Mr. Mayor att iij.». iiijrf."
In 1646 a similar entry occurs against a member
of the same family apparently. This time the
entry is in Latin, or, to speak more correctly, law-
Latin : —
"Item presentant Justinianum Kingston quia duos
tauros occidit qui canibus uon fuerunt pulsati."
In the following year the same hardened offender
is fined for a repetition of the offence, the non-
baiting being translated "sine verberacione cum
canibus."
During the Commonwealth also prosecutions for
the like offence are not unfrequent.
I at first thought that in all probability the
desire to have some sport out of the animal had as
much to do with this curious regulation as regard
for the tender stomachs of the burgesses, but the
fact that the Puritans still insisted on the baiting
before killing, induced me to look a little fur-
ther and see what I could find on the subject
amongst the few volumes that form my antiquarian
library.
Isaacus Judajus, de Victus Salubris Ratione et
Alimentorum facultatibus, &c., A.D. 1568, does not
mention, amongst his most elaborate remarks, the
fact of bull-baiting, although he refers, in the fol-
lowing words, to the unwholesomeness of Old-beef,
p. 178:—
"Senes (improperly printed juvenes, and altered by
an old hand) ergo caprse et boves sunt pessimi, carne
duri, in digestione tardi ; et digesti grossum sanguinem
generant et melancholicum. Quae autem animalia in
quarta sunt setate, scilicet decrepita, omnia duplici de
causa sunt pessima. Una, quia caloris naturalis extinc-
tioni sunt propinqua. Altera quia cseteris carnibus sunt
sicciora, ex humiditate sua propemodum absumpta ; unde
ad digerendum sunt durissima : quia carne sunt nervosa,
quas nunquatn fere digeritur : maxime si animalia natur-
aliter fuerint sicca, sicut bos et capra quse dupliciter pes-
sima sunt, et propter naturalera siccitatem et siccitatem
setatis."
John Baptista Porta, Magice Naturalis, libri xx.,
A.D. 1650, has a passage much more to the pur-
pose:—
"Bubulae carnes ut tenerescant. Presertim veterum
bourn/ nam siccse et durse surit, et concoctu difficiles, lanii
canibus venatorum objiciunt, eisque in prsedam condo-
nant, qui se cornibus defendentes ali/juibus horis, canuna
multitudine post abruti, dilaniatis auriculis, ac morsibus
excoriati coincidunt, his in macellum adductis, et di-
laniates, carnes plus solito teneree evadunt. Cum ursis
aperto Marte congredientes, et aliquando devicti, si aliquid
corporis supererit, ita tenellum evadit : ut ore liquescat.
Possumus idem consequi, si animalia aliquantisper^ in
mortis metu detinebimus, et quo diutius, eo teneriora
fiunt," &c.
Thomas Venner's Via Recta ad Vitam Longam,
A.D. 1622, says of
" Bull's Beefe (that it) is of a rancke and unpleasant
taste, of a thicke, grosse and corrupt juyce, and of a very
hard digestion. I commend it unto poore hard labourers,
and to them that desire to look big, and to live basely."
In Healths Improvement, or Rules Comprising
and Discovering the Nature &c., ofFood,by Thomas
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5th S. I. MAR. 7, 74.
Muffett, Doctor in Physick, A.D. 1655, I find the
following: —
" Bull Beife, unless it be very young, is utterly un-
wholesome and hard of digestion, yea almost invincible.
Of how hard and binding a nature Bull's blood is, may
appear by the place where they are killed : for it glaseth
the ground and maketh it of a stony hardness. To pre-
vent which mischief either Bulls in old time were torne
by Lions, or hunted by men, or baited to death by dogs,
as we use them; to the intent that violent heat and
motion might attenuate their blood, resolve their hard-
ness, and make their flesh softer in digestion. Bull's
flesh being thus prepared, strong stomachs may receive
some good thereby, though to weak, yea to temperate
stomachs, it will prove hurtful."
There can be no doubt, therefore, that the bull-
baiting practised by our ancestors was not merely
a cruel sport intended to gratify the lowest and
basest of passions, but a means of rendering whole-
some and nutritious a large quantity of flesh that
otherwise could scarcely have been utilized. That
the lower classes enjoyed the exhibition, and bred
dogs for the express purpose of bull-baiting, there
is ample evidence, but what " sport " of these en-
lightened days even is not, in some degree, cruel.
In fact, "sport" of any kind is only redeemed
from unmitigated barbarity by the fact that it is
not merely cruel but also useful ; and so much and
no more can be said in vindication of our much
abused forefathers in the matter of bull-baiting.
THOMAS B. GROVES, M.P.S.
ROBESPIERRE A POET.
To those who imagine "the sea-green incor-
ruptible" perpetually seated at a small classical
table, signing death-warrants, and with a plate of
oranges by his side, will be surprised to hear
that Robespierre ever wrote verses, yet such is
the case. In early life, the future fanatic of the
Eevolution was a member of the Rosati Society at
Arras, the members of which met periodically in a
garden, to sit on rose-leaves, drink champagne, and
recite compliments in verse. Carnot was also a
member of this laudation Society. To judge from
the following lines by one of the Rosati. Robespierre
possessed a sympathetic voice : —
" Ah ! redoublez 1'attention !
J'entends la voix de Robespierre ;
Ce jeune emule d'Amphion
Attendrirait une panthere."
Robespierre's own v&rs de socicte are the following,
certainly written without muchaid from Minerva: —
" LA ROSE.
Remerciements a MM. de la Societe des Rosati.
Air : ' Resiste-moi, belle Aspasie.'
Je vois 1'epine avec la rose,
Dans les bouquets que vous m'offrez, (bis)
Et lorsque vous me celebrez,
Vos vers decouragent ma prose.
Tout ce qu'on m'a dit de charmant,
Messieurs, a droit de me confondre;
La Rose est votre compliment,
ItEpine est la loi d'y repondre. (bis)
Dans cette fete si jolie,
Regne 1'accord le plus parfait. (bis)
On ne fait pas mieux un couplet,
On n'a pas de fleur mieux choisie.
Moi seulj 'accuse mes des tins
De ne m'y voir pas & ma place ;
Car la rose est, dans nos jardins,
Ce que vos vers sont au Parnasse. (bis)
A vos bontes, lorsque j'y pense,
Ma foi je n'y vois pas d'exces,- (bis)
Et le tableau de vos succes
Affaiblit ma reconnaissance.
Pour de semblables jardiniers,
Le sacrifice est peu de chose ;
Quand on est si riche en lauriers,
On peut bien donner une rose, (bis)
MAXIMILIEN ROBESPIEKRE."
WALTER THORNBURY.
REGISTRUM SACRUM BATAVIANUM,
A.D. 1724—1873.
The following table of the succession of the
Dutch (Jansenist) church, from 1724 to 1873, is
drawn up from the late Dr. Neale's valuable His-
tory of the (so-called) Jansenist Church of Holland
(1 vol. 8vo., Parker, Oxford, 1858), Dr. Tregelles'
small work on The Jansenists (1 vol., Bagsterr
London, 1851), and other authorities, printed and
MS., in Dutch, Latin, and Italian, from my own
library ; while for the later events, since 1868, the
Guardian, and other newspapers, especially two
interesting articles in the Scottish Guardian for
June, 1873. But these latter authorities are
wanting in several dates ; and as I am, at present,,
unable to supply them correctly, I have left
blank lines for every unauthenticated fact. How-
ever, as the P.S. to my notice of Mgr. Varlet in
" N. & Q." of Jan. 24, appears to have excited
inquiry, I willingly forward the catalogue asked
for by MR. WARREK, as it may be acceptable also
to others. The previous history of the three sees
of Utrecht, Haarlem, and Deventer must be looked
for in Batavia Sacra (Bruxelles, fol. 1714), Heus.
Hist. Episcopatuum Foederati Belgii, Castillo^.
Sacra Belgii Clvronologia, &c. The two latter
bishoprics, " Harlemensis " et " Daventria," be-
came extinct in the years 1577 and 1587 respec-
tively, by the deaths of their titular occupants, on
the liberation of the Dutch peoples from the
Spanish yoke; and they continued without episcopal
rulers from that period, until restored in 1742 and
1757, by Abp. Meindaerts, of Utrecht, as his two
suffragans, which arrangement has since continued.
The Catholics of the United Provinces of Holland
were governed by Vicars Apostolic during this-
interval, as no diocesan appointments were tolerated
by their High Mightinesses the States -General
until the middle of last century. A. S. A.
«
p
Names of Bishops.
Name of
See.
Date of
Election.
Date
of Con-
secration.
Place of
Consecration.
Consecrator.
Assisting Prelates.
1
Cornelius Steenoven, oib.
Utrecht
-1723,
1724,
Amsterdam
Dominique-Marie
Johannes - Christiaan
1725, Apr. 3, at Leyden.
Apr. 27
Oct. 15
Varlet, Bp. of
van Erkel, Canon of
Babylon
Utrecht, and Wil-
helmus - Frederik
Van Dallenoort, Ca-
non of Utrecht.
2
Cornelius-Johannes
Ibid.
1725.
1725,
The Hague,
Idem.
Sardinian - Wuijtiers,
May 15
Sept. 30
('s Graven-
oi.1733, Mayl3,ce«.42.
hage)
3
TheodorusVan der Croon,
Ibid.
1733,
1734,
Idem.
Canon W.F. Van Dal-
toJ. 1739, June 9.
July 22
Oct. 28
lenoort, and Willi-
baldus Kemp, Canon
of Utrecht.
4
Petrus- Johannes Mein-
Ibid.
1739,
1739,
Id. (ob. 1742, May
daerts, 06. 1767, Oct. 31.
July
Oct. 18
l*,cet.6r?,etepis.2A
5
Hieronymus de Bock, ob.
Haarlem
1742,
1742,
P. J. Meindaerts,
1744, Dec. 11.
June 26
Sept. 2
Abp. of Utrecht, 4
6
Johannes Van Stiphout,
Ibid.
1745,
1745,
P. J. Meindaerts,
ob. 1777, Dec. 16.
May 15
July 11
Abp. of Utrecht, 4
7
Bartholemeus - Johannes
Deventer
1757,
1758,
P. J. Meindaerts,
J. Van Stiphout, Bp.
Bijeveldt, ob. 1 778, June
Sept.
Jan. 25
Abp.ofUtrecht,4
of Haarlem, 6.
20, cet. C5.
S
Walterus - Michael Van
Utrecht
1767,
1768,
J. Van Stiphout,
B. J. Bijeveldt, Bp. of
Nieuwen - Huijsen, ob.
Nov. 19
Feb. 6
Bp. of Haarlem, 6
Deventer, 7, and
1797, April 14.
Franc i sc usMeganck ,
Canon and Dean of
Utrecht.
9
Adrian us -Johannes
Haarlem
1778,
1778,
Amersfoort
W. M. Van Nieu-
Broekman, ob. 1800,
May 2
June 21
wen-Huijsen,Abp.
Nov. 28.
of Utrecht, 8
10
Nikolaas Nellemans, ob.
Deventer
1778,
1778,
Idem.
A. J. Broekman, Bp.
1805, May 5.
Sept. 2
Oct. 28
of Haarlem, 9.
11
Johannes - Jacobus Van
Utrecht
1797,
1797,
A. J. Broekman,
N. Nellemans, Bp. of
Rijhn, ob. 1808, June
May 10
JulyS
Bp. of Haarlem, 9
Deventer, 10.
24, at Utrecht.
12
Johannes Nieuwenhuijs,
Haarlem
1801
1801,
J. J. Van Rhijn,
N. Nellemans, Bp. of
ob. 1810, Jan. 14.
Oct. 28
Apb.ofUtrechUl
Deventer, 10.
13
Gijsbertus de Jong, ob.
Deventer
1805
1805,
J. J. Van Rhijn,
J. Nieuwenhuijs, Bp.
18-24, July 9.
Nov. 7
Apb.ofUtrecht.il
of Haarlem, 12.
14
Willibaldus Van Os, ob.
Utrecht
1814,
1814,
G. de Jong, Bp.
1825, Feb. 28, cet. 81.
Feb. 10
Apr. 24
of Deventer, 13
15
Johannes Bon, ob. 1811,
Haarlem
1819
1819,
W. Van Os, Apb.
G. de Jong, Bp. of
June 25.
Apr. 25
of Utrecht, 14
Deventer, 13.
16
Wilhelraus Vet, ob. 1853,
Deventer
1824,
1825,
The Hague,
J. Bon, Bp. of
March 7.
Oct. 7
June 12
in church of
Haarlem, 15
S. Jacobus
17
Johannes Van Santen,
Utrecht
1825,
1825,
Utrecht, in
J. Bon, Bp. of
W.Vet, Bp. of Deven-
ob. 1858, June 3, cet. 86.
June 14
Nov. 13
church of S.
Haarlem, 15
ter, 16, and Cor-
Geertruida.
nelius de Jong, Dean
of Utrecht.
18
Hendrik- Johannes Van
Haarlem
1842
1843,
J. Van Santen,
W. Vet, Bp. of De-
Buul, ob. 1862.
May 10
Abp.ofUtrecht,17
venter, 16.
19
Hermanns Heijkamp.
Deventer
1854,
185 1,
J. Van Santen,
H. J. Van Buul, Bp.
March
July
Abp.ofUtrecht,17
of Haarlem, 18.
20
Hendrik LOOP, ob. 1873,
Utrecht
1858,
1858,
Utrecht, in
H. J. Van Buul,
H. Heijkamp, Bp. of
June 4, cet. 61.
JulyS
Sept. 21
church of S.
Bp. of Utrecht, 18
Deventer, 19.
Geertruida
21
Lambertus de Jong, ob.
Haarlem
1862
1862
H. Loos, Apb. of
H. Heijkamp, Bp. of
1867.
Nov. 30
Utrecht, 20
Deventer, 19.
22
Kasparus -Johannes
Haarlem
1873
1873,
Rotterdam,
Hermanus Heij-
Cornelius - Johannes
Rinkel.
Aug. 11
in church of
kamp, Bp. of De-
Mulder, Treasurer of
S. Laurent
venter, 19
Metropolitan Chap-
ter of Utrecht, and
.
Vicar - General of
that diocese.
» '
Vicar-General of
diocese of Haarlem.
...
Joseph-Hubert Reiukens
"Alt-Ka-
1873,
Idem.
Ibid.
Idem.
Two German Eccle-
(Dr. Philos. of Leipzig).
tholiken
June 4
siastics.
v.Deutsch-
land."
23
Cornelius Diependaal.
Utrecht
1874,
Not yet consecrated.
Feb. 5
184
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5lh S. I. MAR. 7, '74.
THE LIFE AND OPINIONS OF PIETRO SARPI,
ALSO KNOWN AS PADRE PAOLO OF VENICE.
I am most anxious that this note should not
even appear to be the result of a partiality
for either side in the struggle now going on
in Germany. Yet, if we look at it strictly as a
matter of history, it is impossible not to be
reminded of the quarrel — no less violent — that
raged between the Papal Court and the Venetian
Republic at the beginning of the seventeenth cen-
tury. I have, therefore, read lately with much
interest a little book, entitled Vita del Padre Paolo,
dell' ordine de' Servi ; e Theologo della Serenissima
Republica di Venetia, MDCLVIII.
From internal evidence, it is certain that this
Life — which was published without even the
printer's name, in 1658 — must have been written
not long after Sarpi's death, by some intimate
friend of his, perhaps Fra Fulgentio; and we may
therefore take it as expressing correctly Sarpi's
opinions — those of the celebrated theologian and
jurist who was the confidential adviser of the
Venetian Senate for seventeen of the most eventful
years in the history of Venice, namely, 1606 to
1623.
Pietro Sarpi, otherwise Padre Paolo, was born in
Venice, the 14th August, 1552. His father, Fran-
cesco di Pietro Sarpi, was of a family originally of
St. Vito, in Friuli. He was a little man, who had a
great deal of the " bravo " in his composition. His
wife, a Venetian, named Isabella Morelli, was the
very opposite of her husband. She was tall, fair,
and very gentle; in all which her son resembled
his mother. She had two children. After the death
of her husband she became a nun ; as did also her
daughter. The mother died of the plague, 1576,
which numbered Titian among its victims. Her
brother, Ambrosio Morelli, was a priest attached
to the Collegiata di S. Ermagora. He was a
learned man; and under his care the young Pietro
Sarpi was educated with Andrea Morosini, the
historian, and many other young Venetians who
afterwards distinguished themselves.
Besides the instruction he received from his
uncle, he studied under the Padre Capella da Cre-
mona, a theologian, who lived in the friary of the
Servites ; and on the 24th November, 1566, Sarpi
entered there upon his noviciate. Yet, although
admitted secretly before, it was not until the 10th
May, 1572, that he became openly a friar of the
order, of which he was so bright an ornament.
From his earliest years Sarpi's memory and
aptitude for learning were prodigious, and by the
age of twenty he had not only mastered Latin,
Greek, and mathematics, but acquired a profound
knowledge of theology and canon law, and had
commenced the study of several sciences.
He then went to Mantua, where he became
intimate with Camillo Olivo, who was Secretary to
the Cardinal Ercole of Mantua, when he was legate
at the Council of Trent. Olivo had been persecuted
by the Roman Court after the death of the Car-
dinal; and it is probable that this intimacy with
Olivo gave Sarpi thus early a clear insight into the
secret influences at work in the Koman Court, and
the possible effects of the Council of Trent. At
this time Sarpi continued the study of secular
history, Hebrew, and particularly theology, under
the Dominican Fra Bernerio da Correggio, ii'horn
Sixtus V. made Cardinal D'Ascoli. To these
studies Sarpi added that of astronomy and astrology,
but for the latter he always expressed the most pro-
found contempt. Although Sarpi was very young.,
the Duke of Mantua was so much pleased with his
erudition, exemplary conduct, and piety, that he
appointed Sarpi his theologian and reader on
theology and canon law in the Cathedral. At the
age of two and twenty Sarpi was ordained a priest.,
and going shortly afterwards from Mantua to
Milan, at the time when Cardinal Carlo Borromeo
was urging on the reform of the Church, he treated
Sarpi with much respect, and frequently consulted
him. Yet, even befbrejie finally left Mantua, an
absurd accusation, brought against Sarpi before
the Inquisition, led him to appeal to Rome, where
the proceedings were at once set aside, without
his having even been examined. Unfortunately
his too great devotion to study, probably assisted
by the annoyance of this affair, brought on a state
of health which produced infirmities that rendered
him an invalid for life. Nevertheless, he passed
rapidly through the degrees of Bachelor, Master,,
and Doctor of Theology at Pavia ; and was, in
1579, amid universal applause, named Provincial
of his Order, and Regent of the Study of Theology.
His biographer observes that, in the 340 years the
order had existed, no Provincial had before been
chosen at so early an age as twenty-six. The
duties of his office called Sarpi back to Venice,
and subsequently to Rome, where the reforms
consequent upon the Council of Trent were then
being discussed. His profound knowledge of
canon and civil law, and of all that had passed at
various Councils, recommended him to Cardinal
Alessandro, Farnese, and to Pope Gregory XIII ;
and he left in Rome a great reputation for learning
and aptitude for business.
After his return to Venice, Sarpi applied himself
again to his favourite studies, and anatomy,
chemistry, and medicine. His knowledge of the
first became so great, in despite of the repugnance
he felt for vivisection, which it appears was then
constantly resorted to in Italy, that the celebrated
anatomist, Acquapendente spoke of him as an
authority on the subject, and the author of Sarpi'«
Life says that it was well known, to persons living
when he wrote, that some discoveries as to the
circulation of the blood, attributed to Acquapen-
dente were, in reality, made by Sarpi. His
5th S. I. MAR. 7, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
185
researches in chemistry enabled him to hold up to
ridicule the absurd pretensions of the alchemists,
who then made so many dupes in Italy ; and his
medical knowledge appears to have rendered him
very unwilling to use any but the most simple
remedies when treating himself. Sarpi's great
intimacy with Acquapendente continued through-
out their lives.
At the expiration of three years Sarpi was named
Procurator- General of his Order, a position next to
that of General. To that dignity, as he who held
it had to defend the interests of the Order at Borne,
none but men who combined great learning with
equal skill in the management of secular affairs
were ever advanced.
Sarpi passed the three following years in Home,
and became intimate with Padre, afterwards Car-
dinal Bellarmino, whose friendship for Sarpi lasted
until his death, and with Cardinal Castagna, sub-
sequently Urban VII. Sixtus V., who succeeded
him, entertained also the highest opinion of Sarpi's
judgment, and frequently asked his advice. This
leads his biographer to relate the following anec-
dote : — " He (Sarpi) was present at the discussion
of the question, if a dispensation could be given to
the Due de Joyeuse, then a Capuchin, during
which, by one who wished to flatter, so many ex-
travagant expressions were used about unlimited
power, or rather pontifical omnipotence, that Padre
Bellarmino whispered to Sarpi, ' These are the things
which have caused Germany to revolt, and which
will do the same by France and other kingdoms.' "
The favour shown Sarpi by Sixtus, and the
treachery of one of his own Order, who wished to
conceal his own malversions, and to whom, in a
letter, Sarpi had expressed himself rather freely
relative to the abuses in the Court of Eome, led to
a violent hostility to Sarpi on the part of Cardinal
Santa Severina, who was then not only Protector
of the Order of the Servites, but also chief of the
Holy Office of the Inquisition. This caused Sarpi
a great deal of trouble, owing to the factions in the
Order, and the persecution of an innocent friend
of his, to save whom Sarpi, who was in Venice,
went to Rome.
Having settled this troublesome affair, Sarpi
returned to Venice and his favourite studies ; and
when speaking of his extraordinary memory, his
biographer says that, although he read all the books
of any importance that were published, he had not
any books of his own, but only read such as were
lent to him. Yet, that when "he had read a book
once, he remembered not only its contents, but the
page in which he had met with anything that he
wished particularly to retain ; and this, notwith-
standing that his reading embraced every branch
of human learning and science, as known in his
time. Besides fulfilling strictly his duties as a
priest, and devoting never less than eight hours
each day to study, Sarpi, at this period of his life,
was almost a daily visitor to the shop of a certains
Bernardo Secchini, which, as he was a man of good
education, was the common resort of many distin-
guished Venetians and foreign merchants, from
whom it was Sarpi's great delight to draw informa-
tion relative to their voyages in Europe, and the
East and West Indies. Indeed, although often
silent himself, he seems to have possessed a sin-
gular skill in extracting information from persons
of all ranks and professions. This, about 1586,
appears to have been the happiest portion of Sarpi's-
life ; but it did not last long. The Order of the
Servites was then divided into two violent factions.
Accusations against Sarpi were laid before the
Inquisitors of Venice and Eome, and the letter I
have mentioned was produced.
Unfortunately Sarpi had replied to one party
in the Servites — who had proposed that the two-
factions should await in the Chapter the inspira-
tion of the Holy Spirit — that they had better settle
their differences by human means. He was there-
upon accused of having refused the assistance of
the Holy Spirit. Moreover, among those who fre-
quented Secchini's shop was a French Jew, known
for his honesty and good qualities; and Sarpi^
having in jest said of him, " Hie est verus Israelita
in quo dolus non est," Sarpi's enemies at Rome
accused him of associating with Jews. The In-
quisitors of Venice refused to receive the accusa-
tion ; yet the mere fact of its having been made,
combined with the letter, excited a strong preju-
dice against Sarpi at Rome : although Padre
Maffeo, a Jesuit, observed, a propos of the charger
that Ignatius Loyola, then a canonized saint, had
been not only accused but cited before, and ex-
amined by, the Inquisitors no less than nine times;,
whereas Sarpi had not even been examined once.
The violent disputes in the Order of the Ser-
vites lasted many years, in despite of the moderate
counsels of Sarpi, which only began to be followed
in 1597, when he and Cardinal Santa Severina suc-
ceeded in appeasing them. Sarpi was then obliged
to take a journey to Rome, from which he returned
to the quiet life in Venice that was most agreeable
to him. This calm lasted for about six years ; and
the few works by Sarpi, which were published^
were written in that time.
RALPH N. JAMES.
Ashford, Kent.
(To be continued.)
A TEST FOB THE GENUINENESS OF SOME OF
CHAUCER'S POEMS.
Any reader who has ever read Chaucer's poem
of the Boole, of the Duchesse must have been struck
with the curious way in which paragraphs are
linked together by the rime. Thus the first para-
graph ends, in Tyrwhitt's edition, with —
" Is alway wholly in my minde."
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5th S. I. MAR. 7, '74.
The second paragraph begins with —
" And well ye wote, against Tcinde."
Suppose we call these by the name of rime-
linked paragraphs. Let us now see with what
frequency they recur.
The test, as I shall propose it, will furnish but a
very rough approximation to the truth. To be of
much value, the paragraphs should be very care-
fully marked off, according to the sense. Instead
of this, I am merely going to look at the para-
graphs as they happen to be divided in Tyrwhitt's
edition (ed. 1855, published by Moxon); but even
thus the results are worth observing.
I may not have counted quite carefully, but I
observe, in the House of Fame, about 58 rime-
linked paragraphs in the 2,170 lines, or at the rate
of 26 rime-linked paragraphs in 1,000 lines.
In the Book of the Duchesse I find about 47
such links in 1,334 lines, or at the rate of 35 of
them in 1,000 lines. Both these poems are clearly
genuine.
In the poem called Chaucer's Dream the para-
graphs are of great length, but I observe no such
links ; and if the paragraphs were shortened, I
doubt if any would appear. Now this poem is
certainly spurious, and the work of some other
hand. It was not printed till 1597 !
But the point most to be noticed is the result of
a similar examination of the Romaunt of the Rose.
Such linkings do occur in that poem, but with no
great frequency. As the paragraphs stand in
Tyrwhitt, I can only count up to 37 rime-linked
paragraphs in the whole 7,700 lines, or at the rate
of less than 5 links per 1,000 lines. This is very
different from the two results first obtained, and is
one of the various considerations which contribute
to my opinion, that the writer of that particular
translation of the Romaunt which has come down
to us was a skilful and clever man, but that he
and Chaucer were two different persons.
Of course this test applies only to the poems in
which the lines contain but four accents.
WALTER W. SKEAT.
Cintra Terrace, Cambridge.
MONUMENTAL INSCRIPTIONS. — A. H. B. chal-
lenges (5th S. i. 105) the production of genuine
epitaphs to equal three he gives. What will he
say to the following ? They are Salopian : —
At Ercall Magna : —
" Elizabeth,
The wife of Richard Barklamb,
Passed to Eternity on Sunday, 21st May, 1797,
in the 71st year of her age.
Richard Barklamb,
The Anti-spouse Uxorious,
Was interred here 27th January, 1806,
in his 84th year.
William Barklamb,
Brother to the preceding,
September 5th, 1779, aged 68 years.
When terrestrial all in chaos shall exhibit effervescence,
Then celestial virtues with their full, effulgent, brilliant
essence,
Shall with beaming beauteous radiance through the
ebullition shine,
Transcending to glorious regions, beatifical, sublime ;
Then human power absorbed, deficient to delineate such
effulgent lasting sparks,
Where honest plebeians ever will have precedence over
ambiguous great monarch?."
At Wigmore : —
" Mike was in tempur and in sole sinsere
Ann Husband tendur and a fathur deer
He was a fathur kind
And modist was in mind
A greeter blessin to a umman
Never mor was givn
Xor a greeter loss eksept the loss of heavn."
I extract the foregoing from the " Bye-gones "
column of the Oswestry Advertiser. A. E.
Croeswylan, Oswestry.
PARALLEL PASSAGE. — Tennyson's translation
from Homer, printed at the end of the volume
which contains Enoch Arden, is curiously like a
version by Prof. Wilson in Blaclcwood, which runs
thus : —
" But as when the stars in heaven, around the shining
moon
Shine beautiful, when the air is windless,
And all the eminences appear, and pinnacles of height.
And grove, and the immeasurable firmament bursts
from below,
And all the stars are seen, and the shepherd rejoices in
his heart :
So numerous, between the ships and streams of Xanthu?,
The fires of the Trojans burning, the fires appeared be-
fore Troy,
For a thousand fires were burning on the plain, and by
each
Sat fifty men in the light of the blazing fire ;
And the horses eating white barley and oats,
Standing by the chariots, awaited the beautiful throned
aurora."
I take the note of this coincidence from the Press
of 24th January. MORTIMER COLLINS.
Knowl Hill, Berks.
FIFTY YEARS AGO. — I was staying with my
father, at the house of his old friend " Tom Wick-
ham," incumbent of Yatton, near Bristol, a man of
ready and singular wit, when a note was brought
to our host from a neighbour, announcing that his
wife had presented him with two fine boys. He
immediately wrote his reply and handed it to my
father, concluding—
" When Greville his twin sons did first espy
He clasped his hands, and cried, Oh, Gemini !"
HERBERT KANDOLPH.
SIR ISAAC NEWTON. — In the Gentleman's Maga-
zine, some time ago, in an article on " Smoking," an
incident is quoted of Sir Isaac Newton using the
little finger of his " ladye love " as a pipe-stopper !
In Sir David Brewster's Memoir (2nd vol., p. 410)
I find the following statement regarding the great
5th S. I. MAE. 7, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
187
philosopher : — " When asked to take snuff or
tobacco he declined, remarking 'that he would
make no necessities to himself.' " Brewster's story
looks characteristic. I fear the incident of the
Gentleman's Magazine is apocryphal, and has been
humorously invented by some lover of the weed.
A. A. K.
[We must request correspondents desiring information
on family matters of only private interest, to affix their
names and addresses to their queries, in order that the
answers may be addressed to them direct.]
" THE LONDON CHRONICLE."— Can you furnish
me with the date at which the London Chronicle,
a thrice-a-week evening paper, started in 1756,
ceased to be published? The introduction, or
preliminary discourse, was written by Johnson for,
it is said, " the humble reward " of a guinea, and,
though Boswell credits him with only two ad-
ditional contributions — one in 1764, and the other
in 1769 — it is generally supposed that he wrote a
much larger number. At all events, Johnson, if
not a contributor to a large extent, was a regular
subscriber, for in one place Boswell says it was
" the only paper he constantly took in." In 1778
Boswell, writing to Johnson from Edinburgh,
says :—
" The alarm of your late illness distressed me but a
few hours, for on the evening of the day that it reached
me I found it contradicted in The London Chronicle,
which I could depend upon as authentic concerning you,
Mr. Strahan being the printer of it."
From an old directory I find that the Chronicle
was in existence in 1823, being then published at
Crane Court, Fleet Street ; but I can find no men-
tion of it subsequent to that date. I have in my
possession an all-but-complete file for 1764, the
then publisher being " J. Wilkie at the Bible, in
St. Paul's Churchyard." Johnson's review of
Grainger's Sugar Cane, a poem, appears in thiee
consecutive issues for July of the above year.
That the Chronicle did not escape the common
fate of its contemporaries, during the early years
of its existence, is evident, for I find from Andrews's
History of British Journalism, vol. i. p. 208, that
on three separate occasions, viz., in 1760, 1762, and
1768, Wilkie, the publisher, had to attend and
apologize " on his knees " at the bar of the House
of Commons, the first time for the then heinous
offence of publishing reports of the proceedings of
that august body. ALEXANDER PATERSON.
Barnsley, Yorkshire.
FAMILY OF MARSHALL OF CARRIGONON, co.
CORK. — In Harleian MS., 6140, fo. 41, there is a
docket of a grant of a crest, "a lion rampant,
holding a cross pattee fitcht^e," with the coat of
Marshall borne by several north country families
of that name, viz., Barry of six, argent and sable,
a canton ermine, quartering Bruse, Hawke, and
Brown. The docket states —
" This crest is proper to Marshall of Tadcaster, in the
co. of Yorke, and now may be borne by Robert Mar-
shall of the Castel of Carrigonon, in the com. of Corke,
and on of his Mafics Counsell in the Province of Munster,
and George Marshall, his brother, on of his Mtics Esquiers,
dated the xvith of May, Anno, 1608."
Kobert Marshall of Tadcaster married ,
daughter of Thomas Lacock of Tadcaster, by whom
he had issue, Robert Marshall, who married Anne,
daughter of John Huddleston, who had issue by
her George Marshall of Tadcaster, who married
Mary, daughter of Eobert Ward, alias Robinson,
by whom he had Robert Marshall, the grantee of
the crest, and George, who afterwards became Sir
George Marshall, Kt. of Cole Park, co. Wilts.,
Equerry to King James I. He was buried at
Putney, 27th July, 1636. He married Cysceley,
daughter of Sir Owen Hopton, Kt. She died
23rd April, 1625. They had issue Anne, daughter
and sole heir, who was wife of Marmaduke Mar-
shall of Morton-upon-Swale, Gentleman Sewer to
the Duke of Lennox, 1639. They had issue four
daughters, and, I presume, co-heirs, one wife of
Thomas Pennington, another of Nicholas Baxter ;
one of the others was named Anne. Marmaduke
Marshall was son of John Marshall by a daughter
of Marmaduke Wilson of Tanfield, who was son of
John Marshall of Morton-on-Swale by a daughter
of Fox of Clyffe, in co. York. I am anxious
to find out where and by whom this grant was
made. If Robert Marshall the grantee left issue,
I shall be much obliged for any genealogical
particulars relating to either of these Marshall
families, or any other persons mentioned in the
above brief pedigree. I add my name and
address, should any of your correspondents be
able and willing to afford me the information
I ask.
GEORGE W. MARSHALL, LL.D., F.S.A.
New University Club, St. James's Street, S.W.
SEAL OF HON. THOS. ST. LAWRENCE, LL.D.,
DECAN. ECCL. CATHEDRAL, ST. FINBAR, CORK. —
A brass seal, recently brought to Philadelphia, was
placed in my hands a short time ago, which had
been found in the mud on the shore of the Missis-
sippi River, in the State of Louisiana. It is
oval, and about two and a half inches long. In
the centre, depending from a bow of ribbons, and
flanked on either side by a string of flowers, is a.
shield, party per pale ; on dexter side, the arms of
office, St. Finbar, Cork ; on sinister, gules between
four roses or, two swords per saltier (or crossed)
argent. On the margin of the seal, a ribbon sur-
rounding all, containing the words — " SIGIL :
HONBLE THOS : ST- LAWRENCE, LL.D. DECAN : ECCL :
CATHED : ST. FINBAR : CORK, 1796."
What were the circumstances of the loss of this
seal in the Mississippi River 1 Are any of the
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family of St. Lawrence now living, and do they
i-wish to have the seal restored ?
G. ALBERT LEWIS.
325, South Eighteenth Street, Philadelphia.
" QUINTUS SERVINGTON." — In 1825 a Mr. Henry
Savary, a sugar-baker at Bristol, committed forgery,
and (though counselled by Judge Giftbrd to amend
the plea) pleaded guilty. He was condemned to
death, but was transported for life. A writer in
the Tasmanian Journal (Natural Science, Agri-
culture, Statistics, &c.), vol. i., for 1842, published
by John Murray, says that Savary embodied the
" romance " of his life in a work published in
Hobarfc Town in 1830, called Quintus Servington.
Though having every opportunity for collecting
books published in the Australasian Colonies, I
have failed to meet with this one. Can any of
your readers aid me to procure a copy ?
MARCUS CLARKE.
The Public Library, Melbourne.
OWEN GLENDOWCR : MORTIMERS, LORDS OF
WIGMORE : VESTYNDEN. — Where is to be found a
history of the doings of Owen Glendower, e. g., his
fight with Howel Sele, and the true version of the
case as regards the battle of Shrewsbury, when no
doubt, had the Welsh taken Henry IV. 's army in
flank, the history of England would have been
different ? Also, where is to be found an account
of the origin of the family of the Mortimers, Lords
of Wigmore, one of the most splendid Norman
type, no doubt 1 Did it derive its name "de mortuo
mari," or from some town in Normandy ? Is there
any descendant of the family extant now ? Also,
does any one know whether the name of " Vestyn-
den" has died out? Ralph Vestynden, a Kentish
man, carried Edward IV.'s standard (a black bull)
at Towton, and had a grant of 10?. per annum for
his services. GEO. J. STOXE.
Oxford and Cambridge Club.
HERALDIC. — Can any of your readers identify
he following arms: azure, 6 walnut (?) leaves,
3, 2, 1, argent ; on a chief of the second, three
mountains, inflamed ; impaling argent, a tree eradi-
cated ; and ensigned with the coronet of a French
•marquis ? The arms are engraved on a spoon which
<was ploughed up on the battle-field of Saratoga.
BEVERLEY B. BETTS.
Columbia College, New York.
Az., a chevron between 3 annulets, or ; over all,
on a fess of the second, as many martlets, gu.
Az., two chevrons between three falcons, arg.,
legged, belled, and beaked, or. Crest, a falcon, arg.,
holding in the mouth a buckle, or. To what
families do the above two coats belong ?
JNO. PARSONS.
SWALE OF SOUTH STAINLEY, LIBERTY OF
IVNARESBRO. — Hov," did this family become extinct ?
[ have a pedigree in my possession of a family that
descends from a certain Robert Swale, M.D., born
1. 635, said to be the fourth son of Sir Solomon
Swale. If this fact can be established, the baro-
netcy did not become extinct, as I presume it is
said to be, on failure of issue of Henry, third son.
[ shall be obliged if any one can tell me whether
any evidence is likely to exist of the fact that there
was a Robert Swale, M.D., practising in London
aefore 1690, and also whether that person was a
son of Sir Solomon. J. H. CHAPMAN.
Harewood, Leeds.
A " COAST " OF LAMB. — In The Kentish Register
'or June, 1794, p. 228, I find this expression. Is
;he term " coast " still used, and to what joint of
.anib does it refer 1 The circumstance related oc-
urred in the city of Canterbury. T. N.
THE SAVOY CHAPEL, LONDON. — I shall be
obliged to any one familiar with the history of the
Savoy a.-nd its precincts who can say to what years
:he following passage may apply : —
" Then said Oxford, when I come to Cambridge do not
you write up in your St. Mary's, in capital letters,
for Oxford men ; which place is no more kept for me
than the Savoy in London for poor people, which the
?ood Duke founded for a Spittle, and now it 's turned to a
house for ladies." — (Collectanea Curiosa, 1781, p. 226.)
J. E. BAILEY.
" AIMLESS," A POEM. — A short poem, thus en-
titled, appeared in one of the magazines some years
ago — probably between 1850 and 1860. Can any
one assist me to trace it 1 W. A. B. H.
United Service Club.
WILLIAM MASEY. — A family document states
that "William Masey left the' West of England
for Ireland in the reign of William III." Can
some of the obliging readers of " N. & jQ." give
any information respecting such family in the
West of England at that time 1 P. E. M.
COMIN FAMILY.— Frost and other local his-
torians refer to a sale of land to the monks of
Meanx, near this place, by Maude, daughter of
Hugh Comin, and wife of Robert de Melso, about,
1160. Are there any records or pedigree of this Comm1
family extant ? YORKSHIRE.
Hull.
PALACE OF ALCINA. — In Lord Macaulay's essay
on Frederick the Great the following passage occurs :
— " Potsdam was, in truth, what it was called by
one of its most illustrious inmates, the Palace of
Alcina." Who was Alcina, and what was the
palace alluded to ? J. N.
" MONSTRAT PER VULTUM QUOD SIT SUB CORDE
SEPULTUM." — I shall be glad if any of your con-
tributors can send me to the author who is thus
cited from, by one of our old law writers.
ALFRED C .
5th S. I. MAR. 7, 74.]
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"ALL LOMBARD STREET TO A CHINA ORANGE."
— Wanted, the author of this jocular proverbial
wager. W. P. P.
" A DRIMBLE-PIN TO WIND THE STTN DOWN." —
An elderly lady told me this expression was used
by her grandmother, to signify idle or unprofitable
employment. Can you help me to the origin of
the phrase ? A. S.
" SCOTS WHA HAE." — When was a parody on the
above, commencing —
"Dull men in the country bred,
Dolts whom Diz. has often led "
(referring to a rumour of Disraeli's losing the
leadership of the Conservative party), published ?
<3uery, in Punch ? J. C. S.
LULWORTH CASTLE. — Wanted, the name of the
.artist of the two large pictures, The Birth and
•Crucifixion of Our Lord, in the Roman Catholic
€hapel at Lulworth Castle. S. W.
Ryde.
ON THE ELECTIVE AND DEPOSING POWER
OF PARLIAMENT.
<4th S. xii. 321, 349, 371, 389, 41G, 459 ; 5th S. i.
130, 149, 169.)
(Continued from p. 11\.)
Permit me to correct an error in my last, in
which for " Stigand " read " Godwin." I desire
to add, as to the reign of the Conqueror, that the
tendency was so strong to extend and strengthen
the hereditary principle, that descent — though in
that age female succession, either to the kingdom
or to earldoms, was not established — through
females began -to be allowed ; for the chroni-
clers tell us that William gave the Earldom of
Northumbria to Oospatrick, grandson of Uchdred,
the former Earl, through his daughter Algitha —
" nam ex materno sanguine attinebat ad eum
honor illius comitatus. Erat enim ex matre
Algitha filia Uthredi comitis." This may explain
the rival claims of Stephen and Henry II., both of
whom claimed through female heirs. Stephen was
a grandson of the Conqueror through a daughter.
Henry II. was great-grandson of the Conqueror
through the daughter of Henry I. The course of
hereditary descent was still not quite settled,
though Mr. Freeman seems to fancy it was always
the same ; but it is idle to suppose that the crown
was not hereditary when even earldoms and
baronies were so.
A " feudal kingdom," says a learned writer on
the cognate subject of the peerage " is to be con-
sidered as one great seigniory, or dominion, of which
the king is the chief lord " (West On Peers, 2-10).
He was the ultimate lord of all the land ; his
vassals were bound by their oaths to maintain him
and his heirs in the sovereignty. The oath of fealty
was due, on his death, to his heir ; and the refusal
or delay of the oath when required would be a
breach of the feudal obligation, which involved for-
feiture. The land, in such case, reverted to the king
as chief lord, from whom it had been derived.
" Revertitur terra ad dominum capitalem ad ipsuni
de cujus feodo est" (Glanville, lib. vii., c. 17;
Brae ton, lib. iii. p. 170). It was a fundamental
principle of the feudal system that the vassal who
knowingly renounced his lord's oath forfeited his
estate: "Vasallus, si conditionem feudi ex certa
scientiainficiatur,eoquod abnegavit feodum ej usque
conditionem, expoliabitur (Dig. Feud., lib. 2 to 26,
p. 523). And the acknowledgment of the right of
the sovereign's heir, which descended to him on his
father's death, was an essential condition of the
feudal tenure, though of course it presumed know-
ledge of the heir ; and hence the importance of his
being recognized as such. The right of the vassal's
heir descended to him immediately on his father's
death, and so did the right of the sovereign's heir.
And for a vassal to have denied it or disclaimed it
would have been a forfeiture of his own land and
dignity.
It is so clear that the feudal system involved
hereditary sovereignty, that those who dislike the
idea of it strive to get rid of the feudal system.
And so W. A. B. C. says that the Conqueror " miti-
gated it" in some way, so as to " preserve to the
people their ancient right of elective sovereignty,"
for which there is not a vestige of authority in the
Conqueror's acts or words, and it is contrary to
their whole tenor. In another place, he says
that the " feudal system" never existed at all as " a
system " ; an assertion so strange that it is not
necessary to refute it, any more than another
assertion that all law is made by Parliament.
" The bulk of our common law," says a learned
author already quoted, "is nothing but feudal
customs'" (West On Peers, 3). And another learned
writer observes, " The radical principles of govern-
ment remain unaltered. The feudal system, so
firmly fixed in this island, has never been wholly
abolished; and to it we must continually have
recourse to explain what might otherwise seem
dictated by caprice " (Watkins On Tenures).
The Conqueror, twenty years after the Conquest,
made the barons renew their feudal oath, and then,
says Mr. Charles Butler, " the feudal system ap-
pears to have been more completely established in
this kingdom." Of that system the basis was the
hereditary character of the sovereignty, and of the
vassal's dignities and estates. Each mutually pro-
tected and guaranteed the possession of the other
and the succession of his heir. And history shows
that this right was always recognized, and that
an elective sovereignty never was once recognized
by the nation.
No doubt, as already stated, it was always com-
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petent to the sovereign, with the assent of the
peers, to alter the future succession to the crown ;
and so, as William's eldest son, Robert, rebelled
against him, William, with the assent of the barons,
excluded him from the succession to the English
crown, and the two next sons succeeded in due
order. It is expressly stated by William of Mal-
mesbury that William, the second son, was adopted
as successor of the Conqueror in his lifetime ; and
this, as it involved the exclusion of the elder
brother, involved also the succession of both his
younger brothers, who therefore succeeded by
hereditary right.
On the death of the Conqueror, his second son
William — the elder son Robert having been ex-
cluded— succeeded by hereditary right. The Saxon
chronicle says : — " After his death, William took
to himself the kingdom, and was consecrated king,
' in regem consecratus est.' " And it is added that
all the men of England acknowledged him and
swore allegiance to him. There is not a word as
, to election; he was clearly acknowledged king by
hereditary right. The antiquaries and historians
who say that, as lie was a second son, he had no
hereditary right have erred through ignorance of
law, and they have fallen into the same error as to
Henry I., who also succeeded by hereditary right.
It is true that Malmesbury says he was elected
king ; but so one of the chroniclers said of the
Conqueror; and it is clear, from the context, that
the coronation was meant, which, as a fact, was
no election at all, but a solemn recognition of a
right. And when the chronicler says that the barons
about him " chose him king," what was meant
was, that flhey chose to recognize and receive him
as king, and swear fealty to him ; for, on the one
hand, a few of the barons would, on no theory,
have a right to choose a king; and, on the other
hand, if he had no right to succeed, they would
peril their estates by refusing or delaying to recog-
nize it. That Henry I. considered the crown here-
ditary is beyond a doubt, for Malmesbury states
that, when he caused the nobles to guarantee the
succession to his daughter, he claimed it as a right,
observing that death had taken away his son, to
whom the kingdom had by right belonged, and
that the succession then belonged to his daughter,
to whom it had descended from her grandfather,
uncle, and father (lib. i. c. 1). And he also traced
her title as niece of the Confessor (ibid, and lib. v.).
So he claimed for her hereditary right by both sides
of descent.
The case of Stephen shows how strong was the
principle of hereditary right, even in that early
age ; for he was an able popular prince, and wa:
nephew of the Conqueror, though through !
daughter. Yet the nation never acknowledged his
right as against that of Henry's daughter, though
she was unpopular, and had contracted a marriage
disagreeable to the nation, and at the time her
ather died was abroad, where she remained for
oine time. She had, therefore, only strict here-
ditary right in her favour, as the daughter of the
ast sovereign, against all the attributes which
could attract the national choice or approval. Yet
ihere was no general acquiescence in the substitu-
ion of Stephen by election. He set up, of course,
;he pretence of an election, as usurpers have always
done ; but that it was only pretence is plain from
what Malmesbury says, that scarcely any of the
mrons assented to his coronation. No doubt, in
a sense, every usurper has been elected, that is by
.hose who adhered to him ; but that is not enough
-o make out a case of election to the crown. The
question is whether the Parliament, or the great
:ouncil of the realm, ever assumed to elect a sove-
•eign, or sanctioned such an election, or ever
assumed of themselves to set aside a right of su«-
:ession to the throne. In the case of Henry II.
we see the strongest instance, on the contrary, of
;he persistent assertion of hereditary right and its-
ultimate success.
Matthew of Westminster states that Stephen,
in the last year of his reign — in a great Council —
recognized Henry's hereditary right to the crown,
and that Henry hardly consented to Stephen re-
iaining the crown for the rest of his life. On his
death, says Matthew, Henry went over to England
and was anointed king. So Henry of Huntingdon
says, " in regem benedictus est." In the annals of
Waverley it is " ab omnibus electus et in regem
xeatus est." De Monte, " ab omnibus electus est.''1
Mr. Stubbs cites the last, and omits all reference
to the recognition of hereditary right. No men-
tion is made of his mother ; and it is previously
stated that he had " inherited " Normandy from
her, which shows she was dead or had waived her
claim. Hence Henry's reluctance to allow Stephen
to reign, for, as the crown of England was equally
hereditary, he had the same right to England as
to Normandy. He only waived his right, and on
Stephen's death succeeded by hereditary right,
and transmitted that right to his heirs, among
whom, as I shall show, is Her Majesty.
First, his eldest son Richard succeeded ; and the
case is a strong instance of the descent of here-
ditary right. Matthew of Westminster says that
" Henry II. being dead, Richard, his son, succeeded
him in the kingdom," i. e. at once, upon his
father's death; and then he adds, "and he was
crowned in the same year." But he was not
crowned until September, his father having died in
July. Yet the chronicler states, and states truly,
that he succeeded to the kingdom on his father's
death, as he undpubtedly did in law and in fact ;
and during the intervening period he exercised
fully all the rights of sovereignty, and the adminis-
tration of justice went on in his name.
In the case of John, who had not hereditary
right so long as his elder brother's son lived, the
5!h S. I. MAK. 7, 74.]
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191
chronicler avoids saying that John succeeded to
the crown on his brother's death ; but the doctrine
of hereditary right is clearly implied in what is
stated. For it is said that many of the barons
adhered to Arthur as their natural lord, and that
this was the beginning of the struggles which
ensued, for they said it was the custom and estab-
lished law that the son of the elder brother should
succeed to the inheritance as his father would
have done if he had lived (Matt. West. c. 7). No-
thing could more clearly imply hereditary right in
Geoffrey, and in Arthur as representing him.
John, therefore, was not the heir to the crown, and
though he tried to set up hereditary right, he was
forced, like all usurpers, to rely chiefly on election.
He was in actual possession by means of armed
force, and the Primate, for the sake of peacj,
acquiesced in his election, though denying his
hereditary right. The passage cited from his
speech shows this, and shows no more. It is very
far from showing that the barons generally, or the
great council of the realm, ever elected John, or
acquiesced in his election; and we know that, in
fact, they did not. For this reason, finding he was
not regarded as having any real title by election,
he got rid of his nephew, in order to obtain an
hereditary title, as he then did. Although the
crime by which he had acquired it covered him
with fresh odium, moreover, — and, having set up
an elective title, the great body of the barons,
who had not concurred in his election, felt them-
selves the less bound to observe allegiance to
him, — yet, after Arthur's death, he had hereditary
right and asserted it, and that it was recog-
nized by the barons, is clear from the great charter
in which he grants for himself and his heirs, " pro
heredibus nostris." W. F. F.
(To be continued.)
"A BIOGRAPHICAL PEERAGE," &c. (5th S. i.
128.) — This was edited by, or under the sanction
of, Sir E. Brydges, and, from its very personal
character, used to be called The Scandalous
Chronicle. The first three volumes, containing
the English and Scottish peers, were printed in
1808. The fourth volume, containing the Irish
peerage, was published in 1817. According to
Lowndes (Bohn's ed., 297), the notice respecting
Lord Spencer was so ill-natured that it had to be
cancelled. I do not know if this refers to a sub-
sequent edition, but it certainly is quite ill-natured
enough as it stands in that of 1808. The book
contains information not to be met with elsewhere,
but the facts must be received with caution.
EDWARD SOLLY.
A complete copy of this book consists of four
volumes— I, II., 1808 ; III., 1809 ; IV., 1817.
In my copy of the first volume of this work is
gummed the following note, in the handwriting of
Archdeacon Wrangham : —
" Chester, Jan. 7, 1830.
" Extract from a letter of Sir Egerton Brydges to me,
dated Geneva, Dec. 27, 1829. FR. WKANGHAM.
" ' You will find them — my little volumes of The Bio-
graphical Peeraye — an useful epitome of character and
historic celebrity. The woodcuts were all burnt in.
Bensley's tire S. C. B.' "
The same volume contains the following note on a,
fly-leaf. It is not in the autograph of the Arch-
deacon : —
" The four volumes of The Biographical Peerage, 1808,
1809, and 1817, in 32mo., were compiled by me, with the
exception of some of vol. 4, which was by Mr. Alexander
Stephens. All the numerous wood cuts were afterwards
burned at Bensley's tire.
''So says Sir Egerton Brydges, in a note to Lex
Terra, p. 123."
I saw, a short time ago, a copy of the fourth
volume of this work with Sir Egerton Brydges's
name as author lettered on the back.
EDWARD PEACOCK.
Bottesford Manor, Brigg.
PICOT OF CAMBRIDGE (4th S. xii. 475.) — Some
time since I received a letter from the late Mr.
John Gough Nichols, in which he stated that
Vicomes meant sheriff.
In a MS. in the British Museum, Harl. Coll.,
folio 71-102, No. 1364, I find the following par-
ticulars, viz. : —
"Othemyles Picot was Viscount Hereditar/e of Cam- .
bridgeshire or Grantbridge, and Baron of Boorne, or
Brane, in said County, in the Conqueror's time, by the
record of divers cronicles amongst whom Doctor John
Cayus, in his History of Cambridge Universitt'e, page 10,
makes note of him, and states that the Lord Picot de-
cended of Norman Noble Linage, and whose wife had to
name Hugoline, was by the gratious favour of William
the Norman Count of Cambridge Province, that he built
the Churches of St. Ives in Huntingdon and St. Gules in
Cambridge, and held 22 lordships in the County.
" This Othemyles Picot had one son, the Lord Robert
Picot, who succeeding him in the Baronie, forfeited the
same by taking part with Robert Duke of Normandie
against William Rufus, and Hen, 1st gave the same to
Payne Peverell. This Peverell married the sister of the
said Lord Rob. Picot, as Mr. Camden noteth in his discrip-
tion of Cambridge, and had issue W"' Peverell."
I am unable to say whether this MS. has ever
been published or not, but it does not trace the
descent further than this Lord Robert Pigot
The next one of the name mentioned is a martial
knight named Eoger Picot, called Pentium Pro-
curator ; he was one of the forty knights that had
charge of the abbot and monks of Ely, and lived
with the monk named Hayketle, the mark on whose
shield was three silver pickaxes in a sable field.
There is a pedigree in the MS. commencing with
Randolph Pigot, last of Melmorby and Ripon in
co. Ebor, knight, in the reign of Edward III. ; he
had issue Geoffrey. Pigot of Melmorby and Ripon,
and a daughter who married, first, Marmaduke
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[5th S. I. MAR. 7, 74.
Darrell, of Gorey, the younger, knight, and, secondly,
Peter Routh. The pedigree traces this descent
clearly down to the Pigots of Horwood and
Whaddon, co. Bucks, but it does not give the
relationship that existed between the Lord Robert
Picot and Randolph Pigot. Thornton, in his his-
tory of Nottinghamshire, gives the pedigree of
Picot, Vicomes, and styles his son " Robertus fil
Picoti Exhseredatus." Perhaps TEWARS would
kindly let me know of any documents or histories
that would assist me in tracing this Lord Robert
Picot's descendants. There are numbers of pedi-
grees of Pigot mentioned in Sims's Catalogues of
the British Museum, but, unfortunately, I never
have had an opportunity of referring to them.
WM. JACKSON PIGOTT.
Dundrum, co. Down.
SCOTTISH FAMILY OF EDGAR (5th S. i. 25, 75.)
— SP. is obviously not a lawyer, and is unable,
therefore, to perceive the exact nature of the pro-
ceedings, and the precise effect of the judgment, in
Molle v. Riddell. He may be assured of this,
however, that the pedigree of the Rev. J. Edgar
was admitted by the defender, and that if such
pedigree had not been certain, the questions of law
adjudicated upon by the Court of Session and the
House of Lords would never have been raised.
Indeed, the pedigree was substantially proved by
the disposition of Richard Edgar, of Newtown, on
which the claim was founded, as has already been
pointed out. SP. says, " there were two contem-
porary Richard Edgars in the same county, and
•each had a brother Andrew." If he will consult
Capt. Lawrence-Archer's book, and compare the
genealogical table of Edgar of Newtown with an
entry (1730, Sept. 2) in page 70, he will find that
both Richard Edgars married a Margaret Bell. It
appears from this entry that Richard, eldest son of
Andrew E., of Farneyrigg, had seisin of the lands
of Farneyrigg, &c., and by the .disposition of 1766,
Richard E. of Newtown dispones " the lands and
estates of Birgham, Newtown, and Farneyrigg," &c.
Here are two Richard Edgars of the same county,
•and, it may be added, of the same parish, each
with a brother of the same name, a wife of the
same name, and lands of the same name. There is
no evidence that the lands of Farneyrigg were ever
conveyed by Richard of Farneyrigg to Richard of
Newtown, but there is evidence indicated by Capt.
Lawrence-Archer, in page 68, that the latter
took Newtown as heir to his grandfather, George
Edgar. There being no proof to the contrary, the
inference is, therefore, obvious and certain that
there were not two Richards, but one Richard
Farneyrigg, and also of Newtown.
There is another matter connected with Capt.
Lawrence- Archer's Newtown pedigree which may
be mentioned. He makes Oliver. Edgar, who mar-
ried Margaret Pringle in 1564, the son of Richard
Edgar of Wedderlie. But on looking at page 82
of his book, it will be apparent that this Oliver
was the son of Richard E. of West Monkrigg. A
.ittle reflection also might have suggested a doubt
whether the Oliver who had a charter of lands in
Bassindean in 1528, and was tutor of Wedderlie in
1530, was the same person who married in 1564,
and died in 1586. Capt. Lawrence- Archer seems
to have omitted two descents. All this makes the
enealogical table he has propounded of very little
authority. . X.
CYMBLING FOR LARKS (5th S. i. 27, 94.) — I
cannot speak quite positively, but I believe that
the instrument used was composed of a triangular
piece of steel wire, on which were suspended several
iron rings, which, on being struck with a rod of
wood, gave forth a sound which by courtesy might
be called music. This kind of cymbal was long in
use amongst the gipsies. The art of catching
birds with the aid of noise-producing instruments
was practised at a very early date. Your corre-
spondent will find two woodcuts, of the fourteenth
century, illustrating this in Lacroix's Mceurs, Usages
et Costumes au Moyen-Age (vol. i., p. 228 and 231).
Only last year a farm-servant of mine told me he
was going to catch a corn-crake with some such
kind of instrument, the exact nature of which I
have forgotten. H. FISHWICK.
Rochdale.
BROWNING'S "LosT LEADER" (4th S. xii. 473,
519 ; 5th S. i. 71, 138.)— May I suggest that MR.
BOUCHIER'S note (p. 138) on the Lost Leader is of
too polemic a tone for "N. & Q."1 Probably
thousands of your readers would agree with me
that neither Wordsworth nor Coleridge was
" frightened " into change of opinion ; that they
did not mistake non-essentials for essentials ; that
their final faith was that to which all great minds
attain in time — which Shelley might have reached
if he had lived — which perhaps Mr. Browning
may arrive at. MORTIMER COLLINS.
Knowl Hill, Berks.
" CHAFFWAX " (5th S. i. 80.)— The name of the
officer should be " Chafe wax," as in a very old
edition of Jacobs's Law Dictionary the word is
used, and it is there stated that his duty consists
in the preparation of the wax for fitting the writs
issued from the Court of Chancery; and Jacobs
adds, " So, in France — Calefactores certe sunt,
qui regis literis, in Cancellario, ceram imponunt."
I have been shown a receipt given in the reign of
Queen Elizabeth by Chafewax to the vendor or
manufacturer of wax supplied to him for the use of
the Court of Chancery, so I think I am not far out
in my conjecture, that the sale and manufacture of
this wax was a monopoly granted by Queen Eliza-
beth, and that the office of Calefactor thereof for
writs in Chancery was created by some Chancellor
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for the benefit of himself or family. I am told
that in 1816 a Report was made by certain Koyal
Commissioners appointed to inquire into the origin
of the then existing Patent Offices, and the duties
and emoluments of the holders thereof, and doubt-
less therein will 'be found all particulars relating
to " Chaffwax." FREDK. KULE.
"Chaffwax," or "Chafewax," from chaufer, to
heat [hence "chaffing"; also " chafing-dish"], was
an officer who provided the wax for official seals to
commissions and writs issuing out of Chancery.
The whole establishment was pensioned off thus :
Cursitor, 210 J. ; sealer, 804Z. ; chaffwax, 1,145Z. ;
deputy sealer, 209Z. ; deputy chaffwax, 305Z. ;
cursitor and acting deputy chaffwax, 4001. They
were drones who looked after bees'-wax (see Parl.
Paper, No. 100, llth March, 1862, p. 164). F.
MEDI/EVAL WINES (5th S. i. 107.)— Malmsey is
a wine easily procured in the present day. The
French call it Malvoisie, and this, according to
Menage, is changed from Malvasie, the name
being derived from Malvasia, a city in the Morea,
near Argos. The modern name of this city, he
says, is Monembasia ; and this supplies the key to
the introduction of the letter m instead of v in our
•word Malmsey. The Venetians were great im-
porters of wine into England in the fifteenth
century. They dealt largely in the productions
of their Greek neighbours,' and, probably, Malmsey
was -more frequently quaffed in the days of George,
Duke of Clarence, than now. That he was drowned
in it, is another question.
" Claret or clary " ? Are not these the same
wine ? What was it 1 Now claret means the
wines of Bordeaux ; formerly, some clear red wine.
But the name has also been applied, as it would
seem, to some sweet medicated wine, flavoured
with aromatics ; in Spanish clarea, and called by
the Germans and Belgians Hippocras. So Menage,
sub voce " clairet." Landdis defines it, a white
sparkling wine. Whichever of these wines is the
best, that is the one wherein to pledge your always
interesting correspondent, HERMENTRUDE.
CROWDOWN.
Malmsey is simply the English form of the
name " vin de Maluesie " ; and seems, in fact, to be
nearer the original than that French form. This
extract, from the Encyclo^tcedia Metropolitana
(xxi. 718), will show it : —
"The grape from which Malmsey is made is originally
derived from an island, connected with the coast of
Laconia by a bridge, in the bay of Epidaurus Limera,
formerly a promontory called Minoa. Its modern name
Monemvasia (/jiovrj t/jifiaaia, single entrance) was cor-
rupted into malvasia by the Italians, malvoise by the
French, and malmsey by the English."
Q. F. S. WARREN, M.A.
Malmsey, or what is now so called, is a rich,
sweet, luscious Madeira, seldom put upon the
table, but by no means obsolete. I had a relative
extremely partial to it, and had I a bottle left,
I should be delighted to send it to HERMENTRUDE.
P. P.
I can assure HERMENTRUDE that at the tables
of my father and uncle, both long since dead, I
have tasted Malmsey. It was a straw-coloured
wine, in taste resembling Constantia ; but I am
writing of five and thirty years ago, and have not
met the wine since. W. T. M.
Shinfield Grove.
" CLOTH OF FRIEZE," &c. (5th S. i. 127.)— In
Percy's Belies, iii. 168 (ed. 1767), is a note con-
taining this epigram. The ballad of " The King
of France's Daughter " contains this verse : — •
"He clothed his children then
(Not like other men)
In party colours strange to see ;
The right side cloth of gold,
The left side to behold
Of woollen cloth still framed he."
On which Percy notes as follows : —
" This will remind the reader of the livery and device
of Charles Brandon, a private gentleman, who married
the Queen Dowager of France, sister of Henry VIII. At
a tournament which he held at his wedding, the trappings
of his horse were half cloth of gold, and half frieze, with
the following motto :
' Cloth of Gold, do not despise,
Though thou art matched with cloth of frieze;
Cloth of Frieze be not too bold
Though thou art matched with cloth of gold.'
See Sir W. Temple's Misc., vol. iii., p. 336."
The Bishop of Dromore is, however, wrong in
calling the bridegroom "a private gentleman,"
for the marriage was in 1515 (Anderson's Hoy.
GeneaL, p. 748); whereas he was created Duke of
Suffolk in 1514 (Burke's Extinct Peerage, p. 71),
being a K.G. since 1513 (Nicolas's Orders of
Knighthood, II. lx.).
C. F. S. WARREN, M.A.
I have seen the lines referred to in a very old
print of the Duke and Duchess of Suffolk, and I
think that the appropriate distich was represented
as coming out of the mouth of each.
FREDERICK MANT.
The quatrain asked for appears on two portraits,
one by Holbein and the other by Jan de Mabuse,
numbered respectively 76 and 80 in the National
Portrait Exhibition of 1866, each representing
Charles Brandon, Duke of Suffolk, and his wife
Mary Tudor, sister of Henry VIII., and Queen
Dowager of France. J. F. M.
F. B. will find the information he seeks in
Granger (vol. i., temp. Henry VIII.), in his account
of a picture of Mary, sister of that king, and Charles
Brandon. I believe this is the earliest notice in
print of the lines in question. H. PORTER.
Chelsea.
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[£* S. I. MAE. 7, 74.
BALLAD ON MARTINMAS-DAY (5th S. i. 127.)—
This ballad, or the greater part of it, has been often
printed. Four stanzas are given in the Times
Telescope, for 1814, p. 285, as "some extracts from
a little ballad, entitled Martilmas." Four stanzas
are given in Forster's Perennial Calendar, 1824,
p. 627 ; four stanzas in Hone's Every Day Book,
p. 1472 ; four stanzas in Sir H. Ellis's edition of
Brand's Popular Antiquities, i., 403.
Numbering the stanzas as they are given in
" N. & Q." as above, the Times Telescope, Forster,
Hone, and Ellis omit No. 2. Ellis also omits
No. 3 ; and the three former also omit No. 4.
The last stanza, of which only two lines are given
in " N. & Q.," is thus given in all the above-printed
copies : —
" Martilmasse shall come againe,
Spite of wind, and snow, and raine ;
But many a strange thing must be done,
Many a cause be lost and won,
Many a toole must leave his pelfe,
Many a worldlinge cheat himselfe,
And many a marvel come to passe,
Before return of Martilmasse."
I have examined many collections of old ballads
for a complete copy, but unsuccessfully. E. V.
SHOTTEN HERRING (5th S. i. 146.) —
" Ask for what price thy venal tongue was sold !
A rusty gammon of some seven years old ;
Tough wither' d truffles, ropy wine, a dish
Of shotten herrings, or stale stinking fish."
C. Dryden's Translation of Juvenal, vii. 153.
" Go thy ways, old Jack ; die when thou wilt, if good
manhood be not forgot upon the earth, then am I a shotten
herring." — Henry 1 V., Pt. i., Act ii. , sc. 4.
That " shotten " means simply " having ejected
the spawn " seems clear. I see Dr. Latham gives
as a local word shote, young trout or salmon, and
derives it from A.S. sceota. Can there be any con-
nexion between the two words 1 " Shotten " is, I
suppose, the old past tense of " shoob."
SPARKS HENDERSON WILLIAMS.
18, Kensington Crescent, W.
Bailey, s. v. " shotten," says, " (spoken of fish)
having spent the roe, spawned." This agrees en-
tirely with the usage of the word in this pre-emi-
nently herring county of Norfolk, as well as with
the Irish use of it quoted by MR. PATTERSON.
MR. HALLIWELL'S explanation is, I have no doubt,
incorrect. Of course many shotten herrings are
cured, and are very inferior to full fish ; but the
name by which they are known has nothing to do
with the manner in which they are cured.
N N.
"THE GROVES" (5th S. i. 132.)— This word is
easily explained. The district at York called " The
Groves " consisted of inclosures from the forest of
Galtres, called, in 1370, Payneley Croftes. There
is a modern street called Penley Grove Street in
the district. W. G.
JOCOSA (5th S. i. 108.)— This is the Latin form
of " Joyce " (the joyous or happy one), which was
a common female name, at one time. I have met
with instances even later than MR. BRITTEN'S.
But I think it is now out of use : if people want
to give a girl such a name they generally at present
take Felicia, which is a good deal less grammatical.
C. F. S. WARREN, M.A.
In the chancel of Iwade Church, Kent, there is
a monumental brass in memory of Symon Snellyng,
and Jokuosa his wife. The brass is undated, but
I have found Symon Snellyng's will, in the Archi-
diaconal Registry, from which I learn that he died
in 1467. M. D. T. N.
SIR THOMAS STRANGEWAYS (5th S. i. 127.) —
Katherine Neville was most likely the eldest child
of the second marriage of Ealph, first Earl of West-
moreland, with Joan Beaufort. The royal assent
was given to her parents' marriage-settlement,
Nov. 29, 1396; and " Ealph Neville and Joan his
wife" are mentioned Jan. 24, 1397. As Katherine's
eldest child was born in 1415-6 (Inq. patris), the
date of her birth cannot be placed much later than
1399. Her eldest brother was born in 1400.
Katherine married (1) John Mowbray, Earl of
Norfolk, grant of marriage July 20, 1411; (2)
Tho. Strangeways, pardon for unlicensed marriage,
Mar. 15, 1442; (3) John Widville, about 1465. I
do not see any indication of a Beaumont marriage.
Katherine, Viscountess Beaumont was daughter
of Thomas de Everingham, and her Inq. was taken
1425-8. HERMENTRUDE.
UNSETTLED BARONETCIES (5th S. i. 125.) — The
best way to manage with regard to these would,
perhaps, be for them to be considered by a com-
mittee of the House of Lords, in the same way as
disputed claims to peerages are considered. If it
be said that the House of Lords would thus be
judging with regard to persons not possessed of a
seat in that body, this would not be any more than
they do at present, when the dispute is about a
title which does not qualify for a seat in the Upper
House. THOMAS STRATTON. >
DEATH'S HEAD AND CROSS BONES (5th S. i.
128.) — This badge is simply composed of the head
and crossed arms of a recumbent effigy. The
addition of the words " or glory" makes the appli-
cation of it by the famous 17th Eegiinent of
Lancers obvious. The Black Brunswickers denoted
by it " No Quarter."
MACKENZIE E. C. WALCOTT.
In 1759, when Colonel John Hale (who came to
London with the news of Wolfe's fall and the
conquest of Canada) raised the 17th Light Dra-
goons, now styled Lancers, King George II.
ordered that " on the front of the men's caps, and
on the left breast of their uniform, there was to be
5-" S. 1. MAR. 7, 74.]
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a death's head and cross bones over it, and under,
the motto ' or Glory.' " This grim device they still
retain, like the famous Pomeranian Horse, who
since the days of Gustavus Adolphus have worn
skulls and cross bones on their high fur caps, and
in Sweden are now known as the King's Own
Hussars.
This device was also borne by the celebrated
" Black Bruns wickers," who charged so gallantly
at Quatre Bras in 1815, where their leader, the
young Duke of Brunswick, "foremost fighting
fell." They were called the " death or glory men "
fiom wearing the skull and cross bones on their
helmets. They never gave nor took quarter, on
account of the Duke's father having been mortally
wounded at the Battle of Jena, in 1806.
J. W. FLEMING.
Brighton.
PHILIP OF SPAIN AND THE ORDER OF THE
GARTER (5th S. i. 148.)— The Spanish fleet
anchored on the 19th July, 1554, opposite Cowes.
On the 20th a great barge, having on board the
Earls of Arundel and Shrewsbury, and others, went
alongside the Spanish ship to convey Philip to
Southampton. It was on board this barge, during
the transit from the ship to land, that the Earl of
Arundel presented the insignia of the Garter, which
were borne by a herald to Philip. The prince put
them on, and so decorated, landed on the pier.
The account of Noailles (Ambassades, in. 285) and
the official account sent by the English Council to
Wotton (Paris, Ministere des Affaires Etrangeres)
concur in naming Arundel as the presenter of the
insignia, while this official report, as well as that of
Dn Juan de Figueroa, who was present on the
occasion (Figueroa to Charles V., Simancas, Estado
legajo 808, fol. 30, 26th July, 1554), states that it
was on board the barge that Philip received the
Garter. PAUL FRIEDMANN.
HERALDIC (5th S. i. 130.)— The strawberry
leaves in coronets are or, the balls argent, the pre-
cious stones proper. Counties have no arms.
Look for those of the principal towns.
MARY BOYLE.
No county in England has any arms. They
are merely districts, which had neither banners nor
corporate seal ; and though of late the arms of
ancient earls may have been assumed by topo-
graphers to adorn their publications, there can be
no foundation for the practice.
In Yorkshire no county arms have ever been
adopted ; the white rose as a badge is generally
used, but this is a questionable modern practice,
for in the Wars of the Roses it would seem that
Yorkshire was strongly Lancastrian. Percy and
Clifford, and I think also the Westmoreland
Nevilles, were Lancastrian, and the men of the
north followed Queen Margaret, and entered into
a covenant to divide all spoil got south of the
Trent. Doubtless against them the Earl of War-
wick would muster a formidable minority.
W. G.
THE " CHRISTIAN YEAR " (5th S. i. 128.)— It
is well known that there are several somewhat
crabbed phrases in the Christian Year, and this is
one of them. I apprehend the line in question is
to describe a bird's-eye view, in which, though the
landscape (whatever it be — here a lake) " spreads
many a mile," it is all " gathered," or embraced, in
one rapid glance ; " one eager bound " meaning, by
a very strained use of language, as it were a dart, or
elan, of the eye. It is the Greek evcruvoTrros, one of
the most admirable specimens of the power of con-
densation in that language. LYTTELTON.
The third line expresses the concentration of the
many miles of the Sea of Gennesaret into one
stream as the Jordan rushes rapidly out of it.
Such is its impetuosity, that all its waters would
seem to be endeavouring to escape in " one eager
bound." Lynch, the commander of the United
States expedition to the Jordan and Dead Sea,
says (p. 172), " The lake narrowed as we ap-
proached its southern extremity. At 3'45 we
swept out of the lake," — a phrase well suited to the
rapidity of the current at that point.
W. E. BUCKLEY.
Premising that there is an old technical meaning
of the word eager, signifying brittle, inflexible, as
well as sharp, I suggest that the lines of Keble
may be thus paraphrased : —
" The lake, though, in fact, it spreads over many a mile,
appears when looked upon from a distant height to be con-
tracted within a sharply-defined and inflexible boundary."
Those who have observed the appearance of lakes,
as seen from mountains, must be familiar with the
hard, rocky look of the water, and with the view
of the lake as a whole, having a definite and
strongly marked outline, which, of course, could
not be seen while the spectator was on the level of
the shores.
This use of the word eager is by no means to be
admired, but it may be that Keble intended to
convey a meaning something like what is sug-
gested above. JOSCELINE COURTENAY.
Athenaeum Club.
JAY : OSBORNE (5th S. i. 128.) — The name Jay
may sometimes be derived from Jay, co. Hereford ;
at' other times it may be a corruption of Gay, from
Caius. Conf, Gaeta (Caieta). The name will
also corrupt both from Iwavnjs and Jacobus. Mr.
Fergusson renders Osborne "divine bear" (say
" divine man "); but the name is quite as likely to
be from Ousburn in Yorkshire.
K. S. CHARNOCK.
Gray's Inn.
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5th S. I. MAK. 7, 7
SHORT-HAND WRITING (5th S. i. 126.) — Perhaps
some expert writer will be able to state whether a
system based on thin and thick characters, or one
based on all thin characters, is better calculated
for reporting purposes. The system of Duncan
Macdougal seems to have been, like so many others,
based upon that of Samuel Taylor. I have
invented a system applicable to thin and thick, or
all thin, principles, and should like to have an
opinion as above suggested. J. BEALE.
DR. ISAAC BARROW, MASTER OF TRINITY (5th
S. i. 69.) — I was always under the impression that
he, or some of his family, belonged to the parish of
Frodsham, in Cheshire ; because, having recently
been through all the early registers, down to the
end of the last century, for the purpose of a history
or " chronicle " of the parish, I have found several
Isaac Barrows. As Dr. Isaac Barrow was, I sup-
pose, Bishop of St. Asaph, it is not at all impro-
bable that he belonged to the parish referred to.
At the same time, his celebrity, particularly at a
time when Scripture names became of very frequent
adoption, may have induced Barrows of no relation-
ship to pay him the godchildish compliment.
H. T.
[Our correspondent is mistaken. Isaac Barrow, Bishop
successively of Man and St. Asaph, was the uncle of his
namesake, the celebrated Master of Trinity. It is
generally said that the family were of Suffolk.]
CAPTAIN GRANT AND SIR WILLIAM GRANT (5th
S. i. 50.) — I have made inquiries amongst some of
the oldest surviving branches of my family as to
who this " Captain Grant " was, with the following
result : —
" My grandfather," writes a friend who was applied to
for information, "Captain John Grant, R.N., recollects
meeting Captain James Grant, R.N., when he (Captain
John Grant) was a schoolboy and staying with a relation
in Red Lion Square. At that time (about 1804 or 1805)
Captain James Grant was staying there, and had his arm
tied up from a wound received in action. He was a great
friend of Admiral Schank's, at Dawlish, who always took
a liking to any Grant. (The Admiral married Miss Grant,
Sir William's only sister.)
" This James Grant was a clever surveyor, and got the
'Lady Nelson,' through Admiral Schank's interest, for
the purpose of surveying Botany Bay, as it was then
called. After the above-mentioned meeting, my grand-
father knew no more about him till the former's return
from South America, in or about 1838, when he again met
Captain Grant at dinner at a Mr. Cumming's, a great
naturalist, in Dawlish. The Captain was then staying
with Mrs. Schank, and talked a good deal about Botany
Bay. My grandfather does not recollect hearing that he
was any relation either of Sir William Grant or of any of
the family."
The fact is, the Grants are rather a numerous
body, and are apt to hold together after the fashion
of their nation, without seeking for any nearer tie
than that involved in the magic of clan and name.
I have not succeeded in learning anything more oi
Captain Grant's career than the above quotation
furnishes. ALAN GRANT CAMERON.
GRINLING GIBBONS (5th S. i. 128.)— The Im-
perial Dictionary of Universal Biography contains
short account of the life of Gibbons written by
Mr. E. N. Wornum, in which reference is made to
" Walpole, Anecdotes of Painting in England,
vol. ii. ed. Wornum." The Building Neivs, vol.
xiv. p. 635 (Sept. 13, 1867), also gives an account
of his life and works. F. A. EDWARDS.
DR. JOHNSON (5th S. i. 168.)—
" Here falling houses thunder on your head,
And here a female Atheist talks you dead."
London, a Poem, lines 17, 18.
T. W. C.
UNLAWFUL GAMES OF THE MIDDLE AGES (5th
S. i. 47, 91.) — In confirmation of the explanation
of the word Jcayles, keels, or cayles, &c., I may state
that the game of hylcs is frequently played in
Lanarkshire, and I have no doubt in many other
parts of the Lowlands of Scotland. It is really
the game of ninepins, differing from skittles in
that the bowl is spherical, and a special alley is
not required to play it. The ball is generally from
nine inches to a foot in diameter ; and the player,
stretching his legs apart, pitches it at the kyles.
There are two sorts of games, one being the usual
skittle game, to see how many can be knocked
down in a given number of throws ; and in the
other two players strive to excel in knocking down
at one blow the various numbers, beginning with
one (the centre) pin and going on to nine. I have
not met with the word closh.
H. SKEY Mum, M.D.
DR. NICHOLSON tells us that there were two
kinds of cayles, dosh-cayles and club-cayles; but
he goes very wide of the mark in the explanation
of the word closh, which is simply the Dutch .Uos,
a bowl, whence Mossen, to play at bowls ; Mos-bane,
a bowling alley — Kilian. In closh, or closh-caylcs,
the cayles or pins were knocked down with a bowl,
as in the ninepins of the present day ; in club-
caitles, with a truncheon hurled at them, as in Aunt
Sally. H. W.
GEN. THOMAS HARRISON (5th S. i. 47, .95.}—
Has any one ever taken the trouble to search the
registers of Newcastle-under-ii/me* for Harrisons?
A great many will, I believe, be found in them,
and there would be probably no difficulty in making
a truthful pedigree of the General's progenitors
and descendants. S.
NEW MOON SUPERSTITIONS (5th S. i. 48, 96.) —
In Norfolk we say : —
" Saturday new and Sunday full,
Never was good and never wull."
W. D. B.
* So spelt officially : the small stream "Lyme" runs
close by the town.
5th S. I. MAK. 7, 74.]
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SIMPSON ARMS (5th S. i. 49, 114.)— I am glad
to read K. G.'s remarks ; but there are others (and
their name is legion) besides Simpson and Co. who
parade arms without right to bear them ; and to
those who have the right, this is not pleasant.
But there is a remedy. Let there be a heavy
prohibitory tax on all who bear arms without
authority. It may not stop the practice of a sham,
but it will largely increase the public revenue; and
I hope the new Chancellor of the Exchequer, Tros
Tyriusve, will adopt this equitable suggestion, and
give the credit of it to " N. & Q." W. T. M.
Shinfield Grove.
HERALDIC (4th S. xii. 109; 5th S. i. 116.)— The
arms engraved on the spoon mentioned by W. M. M.
may possibly be (see Edmondson) : 1 and 4, Fitton
(Herefordshire and Lancashire), arg., on a bend, az.
(not engrailed, though), three garbs, or. 2 and 3,
Patrick, vaire arg. and sa., on a chief of the second,
three roses of the first.
J. S. UDAL.
Junior Athenasum Club.
THE ACACIA (4th S. xii. 209, 314, 436 ; 5th S. i.
57.) — Mimosa (not Minosa) is the name given to
various trees and shrubs, and to one (which may
be the nicoticd) that produces the " medicinal
gum " of commerce and of Shakespeare. The term
mimosa is said to be derived from the Greek
/u//os (?). The gum is called "Acacia sugar" in
old medical works; but I do not find in the
botanical books which I have consulted that any
shrub of the mimosa tribe is used in the rites of
freemasonry. As to the assertion quoted at 4th S.
xii. 314, that Palestine abounds with the " bois "=
wood, of the acacia— an assertion that has been
disputed— I find from the Dictionnaire Universel,
Paris, 1855, that the Acacia, Tortilla (a tree) is
abundant on Mount Sinai, and throughout Upper
Egypt and Arabia Felix. The connexion of the
acacia with freemasonry is named in various works
on botany. The Dictionnaire Universel states,
"L' Acacia, a remplace, dans la niaconnerie Sala-
monique, ou franc mac.onnerie actuelle, le palmier
de la ma§onnerie antique ou indienne." I am not
acquainted with the Acacia Tortilla, and therefore
cannot say whether it has any resemblance to the
common locust tree, or Eobinia pseudoacacia. One
thing, however, appears clear, viz., that it is a tree
and not a shrub, and, therefore, that it might have
been used for the cross of Our Saviour, and so be
the acacia that is named in masonic, or rather in
anti-masonic, works which profess to divulge the
mysteries of the craft. JAMES HENRY DIXON.
" GORDANO " (4th S. xii. 495; 5th S. i. 14.)— DR.
CHARNOCK'S answer to my query may be com-
patible with the explanation which I now suggest.
Whether there was such a family as "De Gor-
dano," or whether the family holding lands in
Easton and Weston (in Gordano) and the adjoin-
ing parishes ever bore that description as a name,
is perhaps doubtful. The family owning Charlton,
in the parish of "Wraxall, Easton, Weston, and
other neighbouring lands, bore the name of Gorges;
and their arms were Ar., a gurges, or whirlpool, az.
Now Ducange gives Gordus as the mid-Latin
synonym of Gurges; so that Easton in Gordano
means Easton in agro Gordano — Easton in the
land of the Gorges. HENRY H. GIBBS.
St. Dunstan's, Regent's Park.
THE POMEGRANATE (4th S. xii. 449, 520.)—
Surely E. H. F. is mistaken in saying there were
pomegranates, or any other emblem of " Peace and
prosperity," on the Ark of the Covenant. Bells
and pomegranates ultimately formed the fringe to
the High Priest's robe. P. P.
LOGARY'S LIGHT (4th S. xii. 474; 5th S. i. 13).
— That Logary's light was of the "costliest wax"
is very likely, but the " comeliest mould" will not
go down with such of us as have seen the curious
little wax dips (apparently about thirty-two to the
pound) which just last one service out at St.
George's Chapel, Windsor, and which must be
made on purpose after the ancient model. They
look at first sight like the sorriest of rushlights.
P. P.
SUNDAY NEWSPAPERS (5th S. i. 121, 155.) — I
was in London from November, 1814, to January,
1816, and remember well the offices of the papers
named at p. 121. This was a period of great
excitement and impatience for news from abroad.
When anything important was expected on Sun-
days the Strand was thronged, often crowded, by
people waiting for second and third editions till
late at night. I was staying with a gentleman
who lived at Islington, and we attended pretty
regularly the " Eglise Franchise du Culte Angli-
cain," in Hog Lane, at the end of Oxford Street,
now, I believe, called Crown Street. When after-
noon service was over, and the weather was fine,
my friend would say, " Now, my boy, we '11 go the
round of the papers"; so we made our way to the
Strand, and sometimes on to Fleet Street, reading
the placards announcing latest news, or promising
new editions. He often said (and the extra assem-
blages at the offices of these papers showed it to
be the general opinion), "The Observer and the
Englishman are the only Sunday journals we can
depend on for original and authentic information."
For a few Sundays during the Hundred Days there
were crowds about all the offices, and there was
often terrible struggling to get copies of the editions
of the above papers then coming out. If we got
as far as Fleet Street, we generally walked on to
St. Paul's Churchyard, and turned into the
" Chapter Coffee House," where we could read the
papers. When a paper asked for was engaged, the
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answer was " In hand"; and if several others were
waiting for it, it was said to be so many deep.
Even at this house there were readers of Cobbett
on Sundays ; and I remember once the inquiry for
his Register was answered, " Six deep."
As another recollection of past times, I may
mention that when we did not get tea or coffee, my
old friend generally called for spirits and water.
I saw he paid eighteenpence for gin or brandy,
but only a shilling for rum. I inquired the reason
for this, and he said, " They only keep Hollands
gin at this house." ELLCEE.
Craven.
MONUMENTAL INSCRIPTIONS (5th S. i. 105.)—
The following unique epitaph, taken from the
Annual Register of 1768, is said to have been
then on the tomb of Louis, Count Glerchen [circa
1240], at Erfurt :—
"Here lie the bodies of two rival wives, who, with
unparalleled affection, loved each other as sisters, and me
extremely. The one fled from Mahomet to follow her
husband ; the other was willing to embrace the husband
she had recovered. United by the ties of matrimonial
love, we had, when living, but one matrimonial bed, and
in our death only one marble covers us."
• It is explained that the Count had committed
what would now be called bigamy while in the
Holy War. S.
PRINCE RUPERT (5th S. i. 107.) — In answer to
this query, the following excerpt, taken many years
ago from Guillim's Display of Heraldry, is, I
believe, correct : —
" Quarterly : 1st and 4th Sa., a lion ramp, crowned,
or ; 2nd and 3rd, Lozengy, arg. and az.
" Supporters : 2 lions ramp, guard, or. Crest, a lion
segant guardt. or ducally crowned, gu. ; on a ducal
chapeau gu., purfled erm. lapelled, Lozengy, arg. and az.
Coronets (1) (as Count Palatine), an Electoral cap, gu. ;
purfled erm. closed by a single arch, or garnished with
pearls and surmounted by a mound and cross ; (2) (as
Duke of Cumberland), the coronet of an English Duke."
Note that the English Royal Arms do not
appear at all ; nor would the Prince have been
entitled to them save by Royal Warrant, as in the
case of the late Prince Consort and the late
King (then Prince) Leopold. His style is given as :
"The most illustrious Prince Rupert, Count Palatine
of the Rhine, Duke of Bavaria, Duke of Cumberland,
Earl of Holderness, E.G., Governor of Windsor Castle;
Lord Lieutenant of Berks, P.C."
H. E. C.
Dundee.
As given by Ashmole in Hist. Garter, they were
— " First and fourth, the Palatinate, viz., sable, a
lyon rampant, or, crowned gules ; second and third,
losongy bend-wise, argent and azure, for Bavaria."
They are so figured in Heylyn's Help to History.
EDWARD SOLLY.
Prince Rupert's armorial bearings are given on
folio 32, opposite p. 32, in -Analogia Honorum, or
a Treatise of Honour and Nobility, folio edition,
London, 1677, a work written by Captain John
Logan, and to be found bound up with the folio
dition, dated 1679, of Guillim's Display of
Heraldry. CRESCENT.
NOTES ON BOOKS, &c.
A Brief Memoir of the Princess Charlotte of Wales.
With Selections from her Correspondence and other
Unpublished Papers. By the Lady Rose Weigall.
(Murray.)
" As happy as a Princess" is one of those proverbial say-
ings which have no foundation in fact. The story in this
book proves its utter inapplicability in the case of the
Princess Charlotte of Wales. Never, around any Prin-
cess of this r&tlm of England, did the popular love so
cling as around this daughter of George IV. and Caroline
of Brunswick. Her warm, impulsive, and impressionable
nature is exemplified, even in her childhood, by an entry
in the little book, in which, when five years old, she re-
corded the way in which she spent the few shillings of
pocket money occasionally allowed her. There are
frequent entries of modest aid to passing poor, confined
to the simple fact. On one occasion, however, the little
Princess seems to have been much impressed and pro-
portionately liberal ; and the entry, still to be read in
her childish hand, is "poor man, man, poor man . . ..2.?."
This volume not only adds details to the story of the
Princess, but throws new light on the personal qualities
of many members of the royal family. The letters of
the Princess Royal, married to the Duke of Wiirtemberg,
are as good as anything in Mrs. Chapone. The Princess
Royal took the greatest interest in the welfare of her
niece, and did all she could to secure it. This book is a
valuable contribution to royal biography ; and the
story of the Princess Charlotte will always be among the
saddest and most romantic of princely family histories.
" Every Day a Portion." Adapted from the Bible and
the Prayer Book, for the Private Devotions of those
" Living in Widowhood." By Lady Mary Vyner.
(H. S. King & Co.)
BY those interested in the matter, it is not unseldom re-
marked as strange that the compilers of modern devo-
tional manuals should undertake the thankless and un-
satisfactory task of writing new prayers when there are
already at hand, in our Book of Common Prayer, forms
of petition so beautifully worded, feo adapted to "all con-
ditions of men," that it would be no very difficult matter
to frame selections suitable for family or private use.
This is not the place to enter, in detail, into the demerits
of this kind of modern devotional writing ; suffice it to say,
that the power and vigour of old times would appear to
have vanished for ever. How many nineteenth-century
special forms of prayer, that have issued from most
reverend pens and by royal command, have escaped the
severest criticism, and that, too, on various grounds, by
no means undeserved ! That the Prayer Book does form
such a basis for selection as that suggested, the little volume
now before us amply testifies. Should "I" and "me"
appear thoughout a little too prominent to the casual
observer, he must bear in mind that the manual is in-
tended "for the weak and weary among widowed
mothers." The adaptations are always excellent and
appropriate.
Plato. By Clifton W. Collins, M.A. (Blackwood &Sons.)
IT must have been a difficult task to include a life of
Plato, and to discuss the Dialogues, so as to give the
general reader a fair idea of the teaching, wisdom, folly,
earnestness, and nonsense of the old philosophy within
the limits of a single volume of the " Ancient Classics for
5" S. I. MAR. 7, 74.]
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English Readers." The " Myths of Plato " will well
repay perusal, the portion on " The Creation of Man"
being especially full of interest. The whole volume,
indeed, is of interest to thoughtful men, anxious to gain
" light," and curious as to how both light and truth were
sought for by thoughtful men of old. We notice but one
little " slip " in the book, namely, where, in allusion to
those paradoxical geniuses, Euthydemus and Dyoniso-
doros, Mr. Collins remarks, " According to them, neither
error nor ignorance are possible," — which is a remarkable
" slip " to be made by " H.M. Inspector of Schools."
The Latin Year : A Collection of Hymns for the Seasons
of the Church, selected from Mediaeval and Modern
Authors. Compiled by the Rev. W. J. Loftie, B.A.,
F.S.A. With Illustrations by Robert Batemau.
Part III., Trinity. Part IV., Advent and Christmas.
(Pickering.)
THESE two volumes fully maintain the varied excellence
possessed by their precursors. In Part IV. we have a
translation, by Dr. Kynaston, of St. Paul's School, of
Keble's '• The voice that breathed o'er Eden." Such a
rendering from such a hand will give a peculiar value to
the volume containing it. A correspondent (N. S.) of
" N. & Q." (2"d S. vii. 146) begged our insertion of the
hymn ' O mi Jesu, qui subire,' " if it be only to secure its
being once edited." He will be gratified to hear that Mr.
Loftie has deemed it worthy of a place amongst his selec-
tion, with due acknowledgment as to the source whence
obtained. But let us take this opportunity of repeating
our friend's still unanswered query, as to its author.
The Index, which gives a concise account of each hymn,
makes the whole collection complete. A fair meed of
praise, too, must he accorded Mr. Bateman for his ex-
cellent woodcuts. We cannot but congratulate Mr.
Loftie on the general result.
An Account of the Township of Jffley, in the Deanery of
Cuddesdon, Oxfordshire, from the Earliest Notice. By
the Rev. Edward Marshall, M.A. (Parker & Co.)
THIS is a "Second Issue, with Additions," of an ex-
ceedingly pleasant book about an equally pleasant place.
Among the " additions " is a notice of the Rev. Dr.
Brookes, who, in 1803, bought the rectorial estate; and
who, in his youth, had visited Pope and Pope's friend,
Rawlinson. Rawlinson told Brookes that " Mr. Pope
was a troublesome friend and an implacable enemy, who
sometimes forgot favours, but never forgot enemies."
The Rev. Dr. Brookes himself " was tolerant to every
human being except Napoleon Bonaparte," whom he
considered as the treacherous murderer of the Duke
d'Enghien.
GREEK ART IN INDIA.— On the 26th ultimo, Dr. Leit-
ner delivered a lecture, before the Society for the En-
couragement of the Fine Arts, on his " Discovery of
Graeco-Buddhistic Sculptures in Yusufzai, on the Punjab
Frontier." After describing the Punjab frontier districts
where the excavations were made, Dr. Leitner proceeded
to show the powerful influence of Greek art among the
Buddhists, and how far that influence extended. These
discoveries open up a new era in art history, and supply
the missing link that Mr. Fergusson, in his recent work
on Buddhistic architecture, intimated as remaining un-
explained. Several of the actual sculptures, as well as
numerous photographs, were circulated among the
audience.
THOMAS TALLIS, who has been styled the patriarch of
English cathedral music, lies buried in the parish church
of St. Alphege, Greenwich. Strype, in his continuation
of Stow's Survey, says he saw a brass plate, on which
was engraved, in old English letter, an epitaph, to be
found in Burney, in four stanzas of four lines each
giving a brief history of the composer. The stone to
which the plate had been affixed was subsequently re-
newed by Dr. Aldrich, but the whole thing was swept
away when the old church was pulled down in 1710.
The Rev. H. W. Miller, Richmond Hill, S.W., with the
laudable desire of placing a memorial near the grave
of Tallis, is forming a small committee to effect that
object, and invites donations from those interested.
CLARRY, in the word "mistal" (5th S. i. 149), refers to
his query, 3rd S. x. 147, where he states that in York-
shire mistal means cow-house. Our correspondent further
refers to the answers, 3rd S. x. 195, where J. C. ATKINSON
suggests that the word is a corruption of milk-stall ; the
REV. MR. SKEAT derives the word "missal" from the
Moeso-Gothic J/a!7«<iw=manure, Germ., mist, Dutch,
mest, and finds it clearly connected with mixen ; and
the Rev. Dr. Husenbeth mainly agrees with MR. SKEAT,
who sees no etymological connexion between mistel and
mystole, nor any between mistel and mistletoe. CLARRY
adds that Halliwell gives the word as missel, not mirsel,
as stated by T. M. Fallow.
THE Sheffield Architectural and Archaeological Society
are making inquiries for the purpose of reporting upon
the existence of historical and topographical material,
prints, &c., relating to Sheffield and the neighbouring
parts of Yorkshire, Derbyshire, and Nottinghamshire.
Any persons possessing information on these points are
invited to communicate with the Rev. J. Stacye, the
President of the Society, Shrewsbury Hospital, Sheffield.
SHAKSPEARE students will not be sorry to hear that
Mr. A. R. Smith (Soho Square) has published a Cata-
logue of Bool s illustrating the Life and Works of Shake-
speare. It contains above five hundred and fifty entries
of books, by about half that number of authors.
HERALDIC BOOK PLATES. — The Rev. Dr. Lee, 6, Lam-
beth Terrace, London, a collector of heraldic book plates,
will be happy to exchange with any other collectors,
having several hundred duplicates.
LORD LYTTELTON writes : — Bere Regis Church, 5th
S. i. 177. " I beg leave to correct an obvious error, p. 177 :
' The relative afttr the antecedent.' It should have
been ' lefore the antecedent.' "
to
EIKON BASILIKE. — When Millington, the auctioneer,
was arranging (for sale) the library of Arthur, Earl of
Annesley, he found a memorandum, in the Eari's copy of
the Eikon, to the effect that Charles II. and his brother
James had told the Earl that this work "was none of
the said King's compiling; but made by Dr. Gauden,
Bishop of Chester, which I here insert for the unde-
ceiving others in this point, by attesting so much, under
my hand." This memorandum has given rise to endless
controversy, whereby the question remains undecided.
Opposite judgments have been rendered by equally
eminent and conscientious men. Macaulay, in his
History of England, states that, in 1692, Walker, who
had been Gauden's curate, " wrote a book which con-
vinced all sensible and dispassionate men that Gauden,
and not Charles I., was the author of Eikon, Basililce."
Present and future querists are referred, once for all, to
" N. & Q.," 1"' S. i. 137 ; ii. 134, 255 ; vi. 361, 438, 607 ;
2nd S. iv. 347 ; v. 393, 464 ; vi. 179 ; viii. 356, 444, 500 ;
ix. 27, 133 ; 3rd S. iii. 128, 179, 220, 254, 339 ; v. 484 ;
vi. 138, 216, 540; viii. 396, 418, 458, 496, 521, 532, 551 ;
ix. 44, 82, 207 ; xii. 1, 530; 4th S. i. 139; ii. 293; v. 239;
vii. 9, 225 ; xi. 137. In the passages above referred to,
correspondents will find a complete description and
history of the work, its authorship, its various editions,
imitations of it, and translations.
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acknowledge with thanks your kind donation of a guinea
to the " Mrs. Moxon Fund." We have much satisfaction
in adding that an annual sum of 751., from the Civil List,
has been granted to Mrs. Moxon, and that the Poet-
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F. PHILLOTT. — A correspondent writes: — "A full
description of the famous "House of Ice," accompanied
by two illustrations, is contained in Wonderful Tilings
(London, 1853, vol. ii.) ; and another refers to Cowper's
Task, Book V., v. 127, et seg., for a poet's description of
the same.
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S. J. M. — The anagram is perfect. "Sir Roger
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M. J. — " Mrs. Grundy " first appeared in the comedy
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CONTENTS. — N° 11.
NOTES :— Communion Tokens, 201 — Fuller's "Pisgah Sight
of Palestine "—St. Paul's Epistle to Philemon and Pliny's
Epistle to Sabinianus, 203— Folk-Lore, 204 — A Khyming
Bundle of Proverbs — Author and Publisher — " Can " —
Sheffield Expressions — Epitaph — "Pollice Verso," 205 —
Beggars' Barn— St. John's Wood— Samuel Ward, B.D., of
Ipswich, 206.
•QUERIES :— Eleanora, Princess of Salms— Authors and Quota-
tions Wanted, 207— Cyrus's Nose— Clogstoun Family — Rev.
Stephen Clarke— Montaigne's "Essays" — Battle of Culloden
— Pedro Fernandez de Quiros— John de Tan tone — "Charles
Auchester : a Tale of Music "—Sir Ralph Cobham— " Ruyton
of the Eleven Towns " — Shottesbrooke— Latin Sign-Boards,
208— Marmit — " Divide et impera " — Sir Christopher Hatton's
Dog — Credwood Hall, Cheshire— Funeral Sermon on Rev.
Francis Fuller— Silver Bronze Money— Sir Roger Cholmeley
— " The Relicks of a Saint," &c.— The Crescent, Lion, and
Bear, 209.
REPLIES :— On the Elective and Deposing Power of Parlia-
ment, 209— Col- in Col-Fox, &c.— " Warlock," 211— Thomas
Muffett, M.D.— The Burial of Gipsies— The Wakon-Bird—
Godwit, 212 — " Mittitur in disco," &c. — Hungary —
Mediaeval Wines— A "Coast " of Lamb— Browning's "Lost
Leader " — Dr. Johnson and the Shepherd in Virgil, 213 —The
Pass of Finstermiinz— Curious Literature—" Desier," 214 —
The Dar-Daoal or Dharrig Dhael — A Negro Etonian —
George I. at Lydd — " Quanto post Festum," &c. — "The
White Rose and Red" — "A Prognostication for the Year of
our Lord God, 1569," &c. — Knight Biorn, 215— Museums and
Natural History Societies—" Le Cafffi, ou L'Ecossaise " —
"Histoire de la Revolution de France," 1792 — "The Fair
Concubine," <fec. — Sunday Newspapers, 216— The Waterloo
and Peninsular Medals— Old Metrical Title-Deeds— " Prester
John" and the Arms of the See of Chichester — Use of
Inverted Commas— Ringleader— Tomb of Wittikind, 217_ —
Picture by Froben of Basel— The Sheriffs of Worcestershire
— Eleazar Williams— Agnes Bulmer and " Messiah's King-
dom " — The Irish Peerage — Orders before Culloden —
" Derbeth," 218— Old Indian Deed of Conveyance — Charles I. :
Account for Interment — Sir John Reresby's " Memoirs," 219.
COMMUNION TOKENS.
Boswell, in narrating the visit of Dr. Johnson to
Mr. M'Aulay, minister of Calder, says (Croker's
£osivell, ii. 350) : —
"Mrs. M'Aulay received us, and told us that her
husband was in the Church distributing tokens."
In a note he informs us that —
" In Scotland there is a great deal of preparation
before administering the sacrament. The minister of the
parish examines the people as to their fitness, and to
thftse of whom he approves gives little pieces of tin,
stamped with the name of the parish, as tokens, which
they must produce before receiving it. This is a species
of priestly power, and sometimes may be abused."
Dr. Jamieson (Scot. Diet., s.u), in explanation of
the word token, refers to this passage, and adds —
" The first instance, so far as I have observed, of the
use of tokens was at the Glasgow Assembly of 1638."
He then quotes Spalding (Bann. Club, i. 77) : —
" Weill, within the said church, the assembly ther-
after sitts doun ; the church doors was straitly guarded
by the toun, none had entrance but he who had ane
token of lead, declareing he was ane covenanter."
But tokens were of much earlier use in Scotland
than 1638. The Liturgy, drawn up for the Church
of Scotland circa 1635, not later, has this rubric
prefixed to the Order for Administration of Holy
Communion : —
" So many as intend to be partakers of the holy com-
munion shall receive there tokins from the minister the
night before."
The style of this rubric shows clearly that the
reference was to an established practice, not to an .
innovation. In a note to the first impression of
this book (it existed in manuscript till 1871) the
editor says (p. 107) : — •
" The use of tokens is mentioned very soon after the
Reformation, and it has ever since been continued in the
Church of Scotland. They have always been used too
in the Episcopal congregations of old standing in the
north of Scotland."
To this I may add that some forty years ago
they were brought into use in the principal (at
that time I suppose the only) Koman Catholic
Church in Glasgow. Whether or not their use
has been discontinued there, I cannot say.
I have not been able to meet with any trace of
the use of tokens in Scotland prior to the Reforma-
tion. But there is no reason to doubt that they
may have been in use by some or other of the
religious communities. We know that the greatest
jealousy existed between the secular and regular
clergy as to the very important matter of hearing
confessions, and, in consequence, of admitting their
penitents to Communion. Both priests and monks
again regarded with equal jealousy and envy the
privileges accorded to the orders of the friars (the
Franciscans particularly) on this head. Jealousy
would certainly give rise to exclusiveness, and that
in turn would naturally lead to the use of some
distinctive mark by which those admitted to
privileges would be recognized. There still exist
tokens, which we have every reason to believe were
thus used on the Continent. Those interested in
these matters are aware of the series in the
Bibliotheque (Imperiale or Nationale?) at Paris,
known as " Abbey tokens." These are of lead,
and are quite distinct from the copper coins issued
by some Abbeys to supply a deficiency of small
change in the currency, and known as " Abbey
pieces." The tokens to which I refer are of lead,
or pewter, and bear on the reverse the device of
the cross, and on the obverse various other types.
Several of these tokens are figured in the enlarged
edition of -Payne Knight's well-known treatise,
privately printed 1865. The learned writer of the
second part of that book (relating to mediaeval
times) says, with regard to these tokens, that they
have been considered by antiquaries as having
been given to the frequenters of the sacraments.
A somewhat similar usage exists in the Roman
Catholic Church to this day. The members of
many (if not all) of the so-called confraternities
are each presented with a ''token" on their recep-
tion, which they ever afterwards wear suspended
round the neck by a piece of ribbon, and generally
under the clothing.
Many other mediaeval tokens are extant which
were in use by the secret societies of the middle
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ages. Some of these beyond all doubt pertained
to the order of the Temple. So far as they
departed from orthodox faith and practice, the
Templars were Gnostics, as Von Hammer Piirgstall
has established in his Mysterium Baphometis
Bevelatum (see Payne Knight as above, second
part, and C. W. King's The Gnostics and their
Remains).
These "Abbey tokens " were imitated by those
who took part in the " Feast of Fools " and similar
profanities, in which Christian practices were
parodied and held up to ridicule. Such impious
buffoons had also their tokens, with burlesque
device and legend.
The figure of Abraxas was held in high esteem
by the Basilidians, a sect of the Gnostics. It was
by them engraved on stones (or gems), and used
as a token or passAvord among the initiated to
show that they belonged to the brotherhood.
Engraved stones, too, were presented to the
successful candidates for Mithraic initiation on the
conclusion of their trials, as tokens of admission to
the fraternity, and to enable them to be recognized
by other members (Augustine in Johan. I. dis. 7,
quoted by King, ut sup.}. Some of the legends
on these symbolce (also symbola, neut. plur.) are
very curious and striking, such as BAI N XCOOJOJ
from BAI a prize; NXOR secret; OGOU)
honour; MEC-XANAAOJ the Messias be
propitious to him ; A AON AI-AANTAA A
Lord, Thou art the Lamb. These interpretations
are given from the Coptic. Such symbolce were
most likely
"Carried loose in the pouch or zona, to be produced
when required as credentials between the initiated, or as
a means of introducing one illuminate, or ' ami de la
lumiere,' to another."
This usage would correspond exactly to that of
the tessera hospitalis among the ancients. To
such a practice, too, does St. John allude in the
passage —
" To him that overcometh will I give a white stone
(^»}0ov, a gem), and in the stone a new name written,
which no man knoweth save he that receiveih it."
One of this class of tokens is represented on
plate v. fig. 7 of King's Gnostics. The device is a
combination of symbols understood only by the
initiated. In the mysteries of Paganism, also,
tokens of some sort were given to the neophyte on
reception. By means of these, which were care-
fully preserved, the sacrati, or symmystce, recog-
nized each other. Clemens Alexandrinus, in his
Hortatory address to the heathen, says : —
" Ceteris . . . profiteer, si qui forte adest eorundem
solennium mihi particeps ; signum dato, et audiat licet,
quas ego asservem. Nam equidem nullo unquam periculo
compellar, quce reticenda accept, hcec ad profanes enun-
tiare."
This evidently refers to a password or sign. Then
he proceeds : —
" Sacrorum pleraque initia in Grsecia participavi,
eorum qucedam signa et monumenta tradita initio sacer-
dotilus sedulo conserve. Nihil insolitum ; Kihil incog-
nitum dico. Vel unius Liberi patris symmystse qui
adestis, scitis quid domi conditum celetis et . . . tacite
veneramini." — Hofmanni LexAcon, s.v. "Symbolum."
This is quite evidently a material token ; a
tessera, or symbola inscribed with pious legend, or
emblems of the' Divinity. So the tesserce hospitales
had for device the head of Zei;s £eivios : hence
Plautus (Pcenul., V. i. 25, " Deum hospitaleni et
tesseram mecum fero." Under the Empire, the
tessera frumentaria entitled the holder (tesserarius)
to participate in the public distribution of grain.
In the primitive Church the aydirai, love-feasts,
corresponded in some sense to these fmmentationes,
which were in force not only in Rome, but in her
colonies, at the time of the early Christian Church.
These distributions had accustomed the poorer
Roman citizens everywhere to a system of living
more or less at the public expense, and to those
converts who were not Roman citizens, the dyon-ac
usefully supplied the place of the fmmentationes .
Then the sacrifices offered in heathen temples were
followed by a feast of which the worshippers par-
took. The Jewish passover, too, combined the
idea of a sacrament with that of a feast. So also
the Lord's Supper was both the one and the other
in its institution and in its primitive observance.
And the fraternity of the Essenes, which had no
small influence over the Eastern communities of
Christians, had their common table at which all
the members sat down.
Whether or not a tessera or symbola gave admis-
sion to the dyaTrcu, there does not appear to be
any means of deciding. Where the membership
of the Church was limited these would most likely
not be required. But where the number of mem-
bers was large, some measures must have been
taken to identify those who had a right to sit down,
at the table. The idea of the symbola, or token,
was perfectly familiar to the people of those days ;
and there can be no doubt that it, if anything^
would be used for the purpose just mentioned.
The analogy of the tesserce frumentarice, and the
use of symbolce by the Gnostic sects (which were of
much earlier origin than stated by the popular
writers on the subject), I think justify the notion
of the possibility of their use among the primitive
Christians.
Ducange thus defines symbolce (s.vv. Symbolce^
Symboliim) : Convivia publica, de singulorum sym-
bolis, dyaTrcu ; " in his namque (ecclesiis) symbols
faciebant." — Luitprandi apud Murator. De sym-
bolis here may signify (1) from the common con-
tributions, as in the epctvoi those who took part
were said O.TTO 0-vfjipoX.wv SeiTrvefv, after the
manner of a picnic. The later usage was for a
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•caterer to furnish the entertainment, each person
pledging with him his signet-ring, which was also
•called symbolum, and which he redeemed by pay-
ing his share. So de symbolis may be taken (2) in
that sense. Or symbolis may (3) be simply
equivalent to tesseris, tokens. The first meaning
would not, I think, be applicable to the dyd-n-^,
which was furnished, not by the joint contributions
of those who partook, but exclusively by the
wealthy for the sake of their poorer brethren.
Nor would the second meaning apply, for there
was nothing to pay as at the e/oavos. So the third
meaning of symbola seems to remain as the sense
in which Ducange uses the word.
But it would be rash to lay much stress on this
obiter dictum even of Ducange, unsupported as he
leaves it by reference to any authority, or by
evidence of any kind. Possibly he means to
restrict the interpretation, de symbolis, to convivia
publica, although he seems, I think, to include
dyaTrcu. The quotation which he gives in illus-
tration, it will be observed, is not under symbolce,
but under the other form, symbolum, following.
Of the use of the token as a tessera militaris, on
which the watchword was engraved, and without
which no one was permitted to pass, we have
above had a curious example from Spalding, where
he shows the token to have been used precisely in
this way by the holders of the Glasgow Assembly
of 1638. E. B. S.
Glasgow.
FULLER'S "PISGAH SIGHT OF PALESTINE."
The following quotations from the above seem
noteworthy, and some of them may perhaps receive
illustration from the correspondents of " N. & Q.'J:
Fertility of Armagh. — " The soil of the county of
Armagh, in Ireland, is so rank of itself, that if any com-
post or artificial improvement be added unto it, it turns
barren out of sullenness and indignation, that men should
suspect the native fruitfulness thereof; and fat upon fat
is false heraldry." — I. ii. 7.
Beneath Board. — "Those need not to play beneath
board who have all the visible game in their own hands."
— I. iii. 6. Above-board is a common expression ; not so
the converse.
Middlesex and Yorkshire Miles. — "Come over into
England, and what difference is there betwixt a Middle-
sex and a Yorkshire mile! The former the shortest,
because (as some will have it) every London lady when
weary with walking concludes the space, though never
so short, to be a mile, whilst the well mounted rank-riders
in the northern country, insensible of the length of the
way because of the swiftness of their horses, make miles
of the largest proportion." — I. xiv. 2. What is the pre-
cise meaning of rank-riders 1
Phoenix. — " The poet's fiction of the phoenix springing
-again out of his own ashes, being disclaimed by natural
history for a falsehood, may mythologically find a truth
in, and probably fetch its ground from, this Phoenix or
Phoenician city of Tyre, always arising fresh and fair out
•of his own ruins." — II. v. 19.
Weeping Irish. — " Surely the Egyptians did not weep
Irish with feigned and mercenary tears." — II. xii. 15
Copper Roofs. — " We read that in Meldorpe, a small
city of Dithmars in Denmark, the ordinary inhabitants
therein cover their houses with copper." — III. ii. 5.
Madmen, a City of Moab. — " Noteworthy not for its
own merit, but others' mistake. For in the Bibles, and
those numerous, printed anno Dom. 1625, the verse in
Jeremiah (xlviii. 2) is thus rendered, ' 0 Maiden, the
sword shall pursue thee '; where the corrector of the press
conceiving it incongruous to join thee, a singular pro-
noun, with madmen (which he mistook for an appella-
tive, no proper name), ran himself upon that dangerous
error." — IV. ii. 20.
Not Lost, lut Gone Before. — "His (Job's) former
children, non amissi sed praemissi, were not foregone but
gone before." — IV. ii. 40. In the same section, comical
is used as equivalent to happy — " Comical was the end of
Job."
Jews. — After mentioning the tradition that a special
ill odour attended the bodies of modern Jews, and quot-
ing with incredulity Martial, iv. 4, Fuller adds, " More
I am moved with the testimony of many creditable mer-
chants in our age, adding hereunto that the Jewish
mothers use to buy the blood of Christians from barber-
surgeons (who preserve it on purpose) therein to bathe
the bodies of their new born babes, so to mitigate the
rank smell of their children. However, we leave this
as doubtful, having formerly found their report false
who (literally interpreting that commination, 'And
ever bowed down their backs,' Ps. Ixix. 24, Eom. xi. 10),
affirm all Jews to be crooked or hunchbacked; expe-
rience presenting many of that nation (for their stature)
as proper persons and as straight as any other people."
— IV. vi. 4.
Off the Hooks. — " Some children of small age (but great
birth) have been made cardinals, though long since their
Church of Rome had been off the hooks, had it had no
stronger hinges." — Dedication to Book V. Off the hooks
is now a slang expression for dead.
Proverbs. — Fuller travesties a well-known proverb
when he says of Sihon, who refused Israel a peaceful
passage through his kingdom, and so drew destruction
on himself and his country, that he was " path wise and
land foolish." — II. i. 7. That no simile runs on all fours
is thus expressed— "All similitudes run like Pharaoh's
chariots in the Red Sea, wanting some wheels." — II.
iii. 10.
T. LEWIS 0. DAVIES.
Pear Tree Vicarage, Southampton.
ST. PAUL'S EPISTLE TO PHILEMON, AND
PLINY'S EPISTLE TO SABINIANUS.
Among the many remarkable instances of paral-
lelisms which are met with in sacred and profane
writers, I know of none more remarkable than that
which is presented to us in these two letters. The
Epistle to Philemon, one of the most touching of
its kind, is known to all readers of the New Testa-
ment; but that of Pliny is known only to the
classical student, and perhaps by many of these
has been read often without drawing attention to,
what seems to me, the most interesting feature in
it, its wonderful similarity to that of St. Paul.
They are both appeals in behalf of fugitive slaves
by the friends of their respective masters. That
of Pliny is the 21st of the 9th book, which, if the
Editor will allow me space, I will translate for the
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benefit of English readers, that they may be able
to lay them side by side : —
"Your freedman, with whom you say you are very
angry, has come and cast himself at my feet, as he would
at yours. He has wept much, besought much, and of
much he has refrained to speak; in short, he has laid
open his heart to me, and made a full confession. I be-
lieve him verily to be an altered man. You are incensed
against him, I know, and, as equally I know, not without
just cause ; but your clemency will be all the greater for
the greatness of the offence. You have esteemed the
man, and will still, I trust, esteem him. Meanwhile
content me, by suffering yourself to be entreated for him.
Should he offend again, you will have the greater cause
for anger, he the less excuse. Put something down to
his youth— something to his penitence — something to
your own indulgent nature. In torturing him, you will
torture yourself, for anger to one so gentle is really tor-
ture. I am reluctant to join my prayer with his, lest I
should seem rather to force than to entreat, but yet I
will do so, and that as fully and as earnestly as I have
reproved him sharply and severely, threatening him
distinctly that I will never intercede for him again.
This I said to terrify him. I do not, however, say the
same to you. For probably I should intercede again,
and, most likely, again prevail. For this time let it be,
that we each act as is befitting, I entreat — you grant.
Among the few commentators who seem to have
noticed, or- who, at all events, have made any
remarks upon this similarity, Dr. Doddridge says
(Family Expos. Introduct. to Ep. to Philemon) : —
"If this letter were to be considered in no other view
than as a mere human composition, it must be allowed
a masterpiece of its kind. As an illustration of this
remark, it may not be improper to compare it with an
epistle of Pliny, that seems to have been written on a
similar occasion (lib. ix. let. 21), which though penned
by one that was reckoned to excel in the Epistolary
style, and though it has undoubtedly many beauties, yet
must be acknowledged, by every impartial reader, vastly
inferior to this animated composition of the apostle."
EDMUND TEW, M.A.
FOLK-LORE.
JEWISH SUPERSTITIONS. — It may be interesting
to observe the similarity of our own folk-lore to
Jewish superstitions, as, for instance, where the
English notion deems it lucky to bow or curtsy
three times to the new moon and wish, the Jews,
on beholding her, say a prayer, and then jump
three times off the ground, repeating thrice, " As
well as I jump towards thee, and cannot reach to
touch thee, so shall none of mine enemies be able
to touch me for harm." If they have performed
the new-moon ceremony, they believe they are safe
from death for that month. Our folk-lore is mode-
rate, and only promises a present during the month.
With the Jews also the dead man bleeds when
touched by his enemy. SENNACHERIB.
CORNISH IDEAS. — There is a tradition in the
parish of Veryan, Cornwall, to the effect that when
the church clock strikes during the singing of the
hymn before the morning sermon, or before the
collect against perils at evening prayer, there will
be a death in the parish before the next Sunday.
It is rarely (says the Cornwall Gazette) that the
clock does so strike, but many persons have noticed
that on such occasions a death does follow.
K. PASSINGHAM.
GLOUCESTERSHIRE SUPERSTITIONS. — As the
county comprises wold, vale, and forest, it is well
to state that the locality to which my notes refer
is in the north-east corner of the plain, between
Gloucester and Cheltenham.
1. Pluck a few of the hairs from the dark cross
on the back of a donkey ; sew them up in a black
silk bag, which is to be hung round an infant's
neck when teething, and the child will be proof
against fits or convulsions, at least, for that turn.
The old crone who recommends this practice
has, as usual, never known a case of failure, during
a long experience.
2. For reduction of a wen, or " thick neck," in
females, an ornamental necklace is sometimes
made of hair taken from a horse's tail, — some say
that it must be taken from the tail of a grey
stallion. This must be plaited together, and forms,
when fastened in front with a neat gold snap, a
rather ^attractive ornament amongst farmers*
daughters. F. S.
Churchdown.
CURES FOR AGUE, KHEUMATISM, AND LOST-
LOVE. — At an inquest held last summer, at Up-
wood, Cambridgeshire, on a boy who had died
from the effects of a blow, the surgeon stated that
he had not found any mark on his body, except
one [made by tar and pitch ; and that it was a
custom, in that district, for credulous people to-
put a ring of tar or pitch round the body as a cure
for ague, a complaint from which this boy had
suffered. (I know more than one person in a good
social position who profess to have been cured of a
rheumatic affection by wearing a skein of silk
round the affected part, — who still wear it, and
who say that, since they have done so, they have
had no return of the rheumatism.)
DEVONIAN SUPERSTITION. — The following in-
stance of it occurred a short time since. At the
close of the funeral of a man who in a fit of
insanity had laid violent hands upon himself, a
woman advanced and threw a new white pocket-
handkerchief on the coffin. I am told that the
belief is that as, in the grave of the suicide, the
handkerchief decays, so will any disease depart
which the depositor may have. Is this a common
superstition ? F. J. BRYANT.
SUPERSTITIOUS IDEAS EESULTING FROM NEG-
LECT.— The following incident related to me may
belong more to natural history than folk-lore ; but
it may be explanatory of the latter — neglect, in
fact, giving rise to superstitious notions. It has
been already mentioned in " N. & Q.," and is,
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indeed, a very common superstition in the country,
that where bees are kept, and the master or
mistress dies, unless the bees are informed thereof,
and crape placed upon the hives, the stocks in-
variably die. That bees have perished after the
death of their owners, in various parts of the
country, is no doubt true ; but the probable solu-
tion is that the occupants of the hives have ceased
to receive the careful attention previously bestowed
upon them. In proof of this, I adduce what came
under my o\vn cognizance a few weeks since. With
a friend concerned in the administration of the
estate, I visited an old farm-house, once the
residence of manorial lords, but which had been for
many years tenanted by a somewhat eccentric
gentleman, a widower, and recently deceased. He
had kept many hives of bees in his garden, and
numbers of pigeons in his dovecote. He was also
partial to cats, and used always to feed some half-
dozen of his favourites in the parlour, after he had
taken his own dinner ; but after his death, though
a housekeeper remained in the mansion, the cats
disappeared, the pigeons all flew away, and the
bees were found dead in their hives. This infor-
mation I had on the spot; and the deserted pigeon-
cote and beeless hives were evidence to the truth of
the tale, especially as my friend, a relative of the
late possessor, was cognizant of cats, pigeons, and
bees on the premises when the late tenant of the
place was alive. EDWIN LEES, F.L.S.
Worcester.
A KHYMING BUNDLE OP PROVERBS. — I think
the following " Wholesome Advice," as it is called
— and as it certainly is to those who are not
beyond it— has merit enough to ensure its pre-
servation in " N. & Q." : —
" Like a fool, when near manhood, I got sick of home,
And, to better my state, was determin'd to roam ;
As my father from evils was anxious to save me,
This wholesome advice, ere I left him, he gave me.
At first setting out, boy, be frugally bent,
For, ' 'tis too late to spare when, alas ! all is spent ' ;
And old age soon will come, so before youth declines,
You must strive to 'make hay while the sun brightly
shines.'
If you 'd avoid troubles, and live without wrath,
Be sure ' cut your coat as it best suits your cloth.'
Ne'er be like to those men who themselves so enthral,
Nor like some, who ' rob Peter to pay it to Paul.'
Be not (if_with good sense you'd always appear)
' Penny wise and pound foolish,' as too many are,
And take care not to say what you 're told you should
not;
For all will allow, 'a fool's bolt is soon shot.'
If wisely you 'd act, when ill treated you are,
' Ne'er seek that by foul means which should be by fair,'
Nor insult any one, lest you meet with your match,
For, ' he who harm watches will often harm catch.'
Think not all are friends, though they seem you to
prize,
For, ' if daub'd with honey, you ne'er will want flies ' ;
But should fortune frown, you '11 be left e'en to chance,
For, ' 'tis no longer pipe, alas ! no longer dance.'
If a man 's kind to you, be to him a kind brother,
For surely ' one good turn 's deserving another ' ;
But if men are ungrateful, with wine never treat 'em,
Nor, 'fool-like, make feasts, boy, for wise men to eat
'em/
If employment you want, ne'er stand idle about ;
You had best play a small game than stand wholly out ;
But if you prefer the pure gold to the dross,
Remember, ' the rolling stone gathers no moss.' "
For my own part, I never could see much wisdom
in the last, though it is the most hackneyed pro-
verb we have ; and I dare say it has suggested a
reverse to other minds besides my own — about a
standing stone and what is generally its fate. But
for the matter of that, there is a rider to the whole
bundle, and it is this : " It is useless to expect
mankind to take advice, when they will not so
much as take warning." K. E.
Farnworth, Bolton.
AUTHOR AND PUBLISHER. — Charles Patin, in
his Relations, 1673, has expressed in a curious
manner his opinion of a publisher named- Pauli.
Speaking of Frobenius, he says : —
"La qualite de libraire ne le deshonore pas; il avoit
toutes les parties d'un grand homme, mais je crois que
la comparaison qu'on en feroit avec ces ames laches &
mercenaires qui font aujourdhuy le mesme profession, lui
feroit la derniere injure.
" ***" queje ne pretens pas noter icy le Sr Pauli, Danois,
Libraire demeurant d Strasbourg, quay qu'il n'ait
que trop merite de n'estre plus de rn.es amis."
EALPH N. JAMES.
Ashford, Kent.
" CAN." — This verb in English has a past tense,
but no future. In Ulster, the people give it a
future when they say, " I ;11 not can do it." I have
heard the past tense, could, as also would and
shauld, with the I strongly sounded by the late
Bishop Mant in the pulpit. He also used to say?
" he shall wound," pronouncing it like the past
tense of the verb to wind. S. T. P.
SHEFFIELD EXPRESSIONS. — A curious expression,
prevailing here, is the use of the word " gamest "
as applying to the most direct road to a place. A
cabman will tell you that he knows " the gamest "
(meaning the shortest) road to such and such a
place. Another curious phrase is that of " mash-
ing " instead of making the tea. Is this a pro-
vincialism 1 F. B. DOVETON.
THE following epitaph, by Person, may be un-
known by many of your readers : —
" Here lies a Doctor of Divinity,
He was a Fellow, too, of Trinity ;
He knew as much about Divinity
As other Fellows do of Trinity."
S. N.
" POLLICE VERSO." — The above striking picture
of Gdrome's seems to be inappropriately named.
From the many photographs of it to be seen at the
present time in London, one can conclude that the
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[5th S. I. MAR. 14, '74.
ladies of the Imperial court, by turning their
thumbs downwards, seem to be interceding for the
life of the vanquished gladiator. But to extend the
thumb (vertere) was a sign of disapprobation, and a
signal that the victor might dispatch his fallen
antagonist. Should not, then, the title be judging
from the picture itself, "Pollice presso." As it
stands, it is either wrongly entitled, or if it were
the intention of the artist that the fight should be
carried out to the bitter end, he should have repre-
sented the spectators with their thumbs extended or
turned lack, and not downwards. J. S. UDAL.
Junior Athenaeum Club.
BEGGARS' BARN. — The curious facts in this
letter, which appeared in the Times about the 18th
or 20th of February, appear to make it worthy of
permanent record in the pages of " N. & Q." : —
" Sixty years ago, there was, in this small parish (and
i n most others), a ' Beggars' Barn,' where travellers were
entitled to a night's lodging and a meal gratis. The
farmer who happened to live nearest the church was
bound to furnish this measure of hospitality to all way-
farers claiming it. When I inquired of the old people
still living, who remember the Beggars' Barn here, what
a traveller would have done if the farmer had re-
fused him lodging, &c., I was informed that he had
a right to sleep in the church porch ; and if he did so,
the farmer would be both censured and fined by his
fellow-parishioners in vestry. A county magistrate,
on hearing this statement from an old inhabitant of this
village, said he recollected hearing, when he was a boy,
his aunt speaking of a woman in their parish who
threatened to bring her bed and place it in the church
porch to shame the people, unless certain relief was
given her. This, as he said, was an evidence of the
prevalence of the idea of a right to lodge in the church
porch, and of other curious points in the old system of
relieving the poor. I have a lithograph, or rather an
engraving, published by R. Ackermann, 101, Strand, in
1815, of the Beggars' Barn of this parish. — I remain,
your obedient servant, G. H. BILLINGTON. — Chalbury
Rectory, Wimborne, Feb. 20."
ST. JOHN'S. WOOD. — "Great St. John's Woods
in Marybone Parish, and all of them except the
Park, granted in reversion, after leases now in
being, with the inheritance thereof, to Charles
Henry Wotton, in consideration of his surrender
of a debt in the Chequer of 1,300Z. value." — Let-
ter from Henry Ball, Whitehall, July 31, 1673,
in Letters to Sir Joseph Williamson, i. 136, Cam-
den Soc., 1874. F.
SAMUEL WARD, B.D., OF IPSWICH. — In the
biographical sketch of this Puritan divine appended
to my memoir of his brother, Nathaniel, published
in 1868 (" N. & Q." 4th S. ii. 216), I suggested (p.
161) that the Wonders of the Loadstone, which I
had not then seen, might be a translation of the
Latin work, by this author, entitled Magnetis
Eedudorium Theologicum Tropologicum, &c. A
friend has recently loaned me a copy of the
Wonders, and I find that my conjecture is true.
The title of the book is —
" The Wonders of the Load-Stone ; or, The Load-Stone
newly reduc't into a Divine and Morall Yse. By Samvel
Ward, of Ipswich, B.D.
' If men be silent, Stones will shew thy praise,
And Iron, hearts of men to thee will raise.'*
" London, Printed by E. P. for Peter Cole, and are to
be sold at his shop, at the signe of the glove and Lyon in
Cornehill, over against the Conduit, 1640^' Post l'2mo.
pp. 282.
The original work has a copper-plate emblematic
frontispiece, which is not in this copy of the transla-
tion.
The work was translated by Sir Harbottle
Grimeston, who, in an address " To the Keader,"
states that the translation was made during his
" late long vacation," and adds, " the Authore
himselfe, who hath a commanding power in me,
did request me to undertake this taske."
The "Imprimatur" is signed "Tho. Wykes,
E. P. Ep°, Lond. Capell, domest.," — the same per-
son who licensed the original Latin work, — and is
dated " April 29, 1640." Though the author had
died nearly two months before this, no reference to
his being dead is found in the book.
Another version of a portion of this work (the
42nd chapter and the " Votvm Magneticvm") was
made by John Vicars, and printed as a broadside.
A copy of these poems is to be found among the
King's Pamphlets in the British Museum (" N.
& Q." 2nd S. xii. 311, 379).
In Things New and Old, by John Spencer,
London, 1869, vol. i. p. 172, there is an extract
from a sermon by Ward, " at Ipswich, 1636," in
which is found the quotation from Herbert for
which complaint was made against him to the
ecclesiastical authorities. Probably 1636 is the
date of printing the sermon, not of preaching it.
Can any one furnish me with the title of the
sermon quoted by Spencer, and other particulars
concerning it ? A collection of Ward's works was
issued in 1636 ("N. & Q." 2nd S. xii. 311); but
I presume that the passage is from none of these,
as I have a previous edition (1627), containing all
the works named by your correspondent, and I
do not find the extract there. It may, however,
have been added in the later edition.
The MESSRS. COOPER, in your periodical(2nd S.
xii. 426), state that Mr. Ward "vacated his Fellow-
ship in 1604, by marriage with Deborah Bolton of
Isleham, Cambridgeshire, widow." Col. Chester
has recently sent me the exact date of this mar-
riage, from the parish register of Isleham, namely,
January 2, 1604, that is, I suppose, 1604-5.
A copy of the portrait of Ward, with its quaint
devices (" N. & Q." 2nd S. xii. 379), has, within a
few years, been made for the " Memorial Hall " in
Farringdon Street, London, by Mr. Gustavus A .
* The original of this verse is —
" Si sileant homines, lapides tua facta loquentur,
Saxaque dura viriirn ferrea corda trahent."
5th S. I. MAB. 14, 74.]
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Sintzenich, of Exeter, who has sent me a photo-
graph of it.
An interesting book on the life of Ward could,
I think, be written by one who has access to the
State Paper Office and the British Museum.
JOHN WARD DEAN.
Boston, Massachusetts, U.S.A.
[We must request correspondents desiring information
on family matters of only private interest, to affix their
names and addresses to their queries, in order that the
answers may be addressed to them direct.]
ELEANORA, PRINCESS OF SALMS. — In The De-
scendants of the Stuarts : an Unchronicled Page in
English History, by W. Townend, of which two
editions — the latter with additions — were published
in 1858, there appears to be a mistake, when it is
stated (at p. 257) that " Eleanora Christina, the
second daughter of Louisa, Princess of Salms, died,
succession perishing"; for she certainly married
and left issue, as will be shown here. It is hardly
necessary to state that she was grand-daughter of
Edward, fifth son of Elizabeth, Queen of Bohemia,
the daughter of King James I. , through which descent
she was one of the members of the royal family of
England, who were excluded from the throne for
being E. Catholics. She was born 14th March,
1678, and died in April, 1737, having married, in
1714, Conrad- Albert-Charles (then Count, and
afterwards) Duke of Ursel and Hoboken, in the
Netherlands (so created by the Emperor Charles
VI., on 24th April, 1717), and Governor of the
Province of Namur ; he was also Grand-master of
the Chase, arid of Forests, in Flanders ; Cham-
berlain to King Charles II. of Spain ; colonel of a
regiment of dragoons, and commander of the
Eoyal Horse Guards ; born in 1663, and died 3rd
May, 1738. Thare were two children born of this
marriage, a son and daughter, viz. —
I. Charles-Elizabeth-Conrad, born 1717, who
succeeded his father as second Duke of Ursel and
Hoboken, in 1738 ; he was also Prince of Arche and
Charleville, Count of Grobbendorf, Hereditary Grand
Marshal of the Duchy of Brabant, Chamberlain of
His Imperial Majesty, General-Field-Marshal-
Lieutenant, and Governor of Brussels, in 1768.
He married 16th August, 1740, Maria Eleonora
(born 17th Oct., 1721, and died 9th May, 1756),
daughter of George-Christian, Prince of Lobkowitz,
in Bohemia, by whom he had issue : — 1. Charlotte,
born in 1741, a Canoness of Mons, in Flanders ;
2. Henrietta, born 9th Oct., 1744 ; 3. Louis, born
in June, 1747, and died 26th January, 1764 ; 4.
Emanuel, born in Dec., 1748, and died in April,
1766, in Paris ; 5. William, born in January,
1750 ; and 6. N (a son), born 30th April,
1753.
II. Benedicta- Charlotte, born 5th February,
1719, and married in Sept., 1739, to "her cousin,"
Francis- Albert-Charles, Marquess of Bournonville,
a Grandee of Spain.
So far, the descendants are clear enough ; but I
am unable to trace them any later than the year
1768, and, therefore, apply to " N. & Q." for aid
in completing this genealogy. The two sons and
daughter — born respectively in 1750, 1753, and
1741 — of the second Duke of Ursel may have
married and left descendants, as also his sister, the
Marchioness of Bournonville, married in 1739 ;
and a work on the Spanish or Belgian nobility
would surely afford the desired information.
There are other mistakes and omissions in
Townend's work. For instance (at p. 256), he
entirely omits Princess Mary Elizabeth, third
daughter of Nicholas " Leopold, Ehinegrave," the
Prince of Salm-Hoogstraten ; she was born 4th
April, 1729, married 1st August, 1751, to Eugene-
Francis-Erwin- William, Count of Schonborn in
Heussenstand, and had a family of one son and
five daughters, born between 1754 and 1763, of
whom there may be numerous descendants, for the
existing family of Counts of Schcenborn-Buchheim,
" ci-devant Schoenborn-Heussenstamm," at Vienna,
appears to be their representative. A. S. A.
Richmond.
AUTHORS AND QUOTATIONS WANTED. —
"All women born are so perverse,
No man need boast their love possessing ;
If nought seem better nothing 's worse,
All women born are so perverse.
, From Adam's wife, that proved a curse,
Tho' God had made her for a blessing ;
All women born are so perverse,
No man need boast their love possessing."
A. E. BARKER.
" Which sat beneath the laurels day by day,
And fired with burning faith in God and Right,
Doubted men's doubts away."
In an article in the February number of Black-
wood on " Poetry," the writer quotes the above —
"as a living Poet says, referring to the 'White
Soul ' of Socrates." Can you refer me to the living
poet and the poem quoted 1 J. G. H.
" And marked the yaffel laughing in the sun
Because the rain was coming."
JAMES BRITTEN.
" Over life's road,
Dull and dirty,
I have trod till
Three and thirty.
What have these years been to me 1
Nothing— except thirty-three."
Where do the above lines come from 1
J. B. D.
" Let him never come back to us !
There would be doubt, hesitation, and pain,
Forced praise on our part — the glimmer of twilight
Never glad confident morning again."
A FOREIGNER.
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"THE REST OF BOODH." — Who is the author
(I rather think it is an American poet, now dead)
of a poem in which every stanza, and there are
only about half a dozen, ends with the words,
" the rest of Boodh"? I think also these words
form the title of the poem.
RICHARD PHILLIPS.
CYRUS'S NOSE. — It is said to have been of very
peculiar shape, and his people, it appears, thought
it desirable to have a nose similar to his, and
accordingly bandaged and swathed the member
daily, till some of them approximated to a resem-
blance. Does any historian record this absurdity
of the Persians, or give any account of the means
and appliances by which it was attempted to be
.accomplished ? C. A. W.
Mayfair.
CLOGSTOUN FAMILY. — Where is their pedigree,
and is there any family of the name still living in
England or Scotland 1 I believe it to be a Scotch
name. A. L.
EEV. STEPHEN CLARKE. — Can any one supply
the date of printing of an old small 8vo. volume
(probably of the last century) of sermons by " the
late Eev. Stephen Clarke, M.A., rector of Bury-
thorp in Yorkshire. Malton : printed by Joshua
Nickson " (n. d.) ; or furnish particulars about
either the author or the printer 1 The paper has
the water-mark of a crown and the Roman figure
IV. CHARLES A. FEDERER.
Bradford.
MONTAIGNE'S "ESSAYS." — Can any of your
readers inform me in which one of Montaigne's
essays he makes the remark that, if he had it in his
power to begin life anew, he would not wish to have
it any way different from what it had been ? I have
sought the passage, but have never been able to
find it, and think the author in whose book I saw
this remark attributed to Montaigne must have
been mistaken. If it were not Montaigne, was
this said by any well-known author 1 G. G.
BATTLE OF CULLODEN. — The general and field
officers present at this battle received gold medals,
having on one side the head of Duke William,
superscribed "Cumberland," and underneath, " Yeo,
f." ; on the reverse, the figure of Apollo, and at his
feet a dragon pierced by an arrow, inscribed
" Actum est illicet periit," with " Prsel. Colod. Ap.
xvi. MDCCXLVI." in the exergue. Where can an
account of the presentation of this decoration be
found ? TYRO.
PEDRO FERNANDEZ DE QUIROS. — He made, in
1606, a voyage of discovery New-Guinea- wards
He was accompanied by Luis Valdez de Torres
(after whom is named Torres Straits). Burue,,
(Burney's Voyages in the South Seas, vol. ii., 268-
327) gives account of his explorations, and states
on authority of Memorial of Arias, that he died at
Lima, having presented more than " 50 memorials
o the King of Spain," one of which was printed at
Seville in 1610. Burney says, also, that Quiros
wrote, at Manilla, a Relation of his voyage- to Terra
A^ustralis, which he sent to the king. Brunei, in
lis catalogue, mentions —
Quir Terra Australia Incognita; or, a New Southerne
)iscoverie, containing a Fifth Part of the World, lately
bund out by Ferdinand de Quir, a Spanish Captain :
never before Published. Translated by W. B. London,
1617."
Who is W. B.? Can any one give me par-
iculars of the life of Quiros before 1595, when we
ind him pilot to Mendana for a voyage to the
Salomon Islands ; or after 1607, when he wrote
lie account of the voyage translated (?) by W. B. ?
MARCUS CLARKE.
The Public Library, Melbourne.
JOHN DE TANTONE. — At what time was he
Abbot of Glastonbury, and are there any old
papers or MSS. by which his pedigree can be
braced back? I believe there were two De
Tantones Abbots of Glastonbury ; if so, was one
a descendant of the other? I have heard that
they were illegitimately descended from Henry I.
through the heiress of Valletort, a natural son of
that king. W. G. T.
" CHARLES AUCHESTER : a Tale of Music." —
Who is the author of this book, published, I think,
in 1851 ? By the same hand are also Counterparts,
and My First Season. Information respecting the
prototypes of the characters in diaries Auchester
will be most welcome to TENEOR. •
SIR RALPH COBHAM. — Of what family was Sir
Ralph Cobham, referred to in articles on Mary,
daughter of William de Roos, 4th S. xii. 495, 523 ?
My answer to the former was anticipated by HER-
MENTRUDE, but contained a point on which I shall
be glad of information. According to Dugdale,
she married Sir Ralph Cobham after the death, in
1338, of Thomas de Brotherton. Was this so ?
What was the date of the former's death, and what
were his arms ? J. F. M.
" RUYTON OF THE ELEVEN TOWNS " IN SHROP-
SHIRE.— What is the origin of the term, and what
are the eleven towns of which it is one, and why is
it so called? Some one will, perhaps, give the
information. S. N.
Hyde.
SHOTTESBROOKE. — What is the derivation of
this word, at present the name of a park near
Maidenhead? Old histories of the county offer
no solution of the problem, though the word is
spelt in various ways, as " Shotesbroc " and, I
think, " Shastbroke." ALLOWAY.
LATIN SIGN-BOARDS.— Passing through _Nant-
wich ten years ago, I was attracted by seeing on
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the opposite side to that on which I was walking
a public-house sign-board — a Cock, and under il
the motto, " G-allus cantu sol motu moneat." Are
there any other instances of Latin on such service 1
JOHN FOTHERGILL.
MARMIT. — The marmit is well known as one oJ
the old English cooking utensils. Two or three
years ago an article on marmits appeared in the
Builder, or some similar London weekly. I have
searched for this without being able to find it. Il
any of your readers can supply me with a reference
to it, I shall be much obliged. G. W. M.
"DIVIDE ET IMPERA." — Can any of your cor-
respondents inform me of the origin of this old
maxim, or where it is to be found '? F. Z.
SIR CHRISTOPHER HATTON'S DOG. — What is the
story referred to by Mr. Hepworth Dixon in Her
Majesty's Tower? ' H. A. DILLON.
Morpeth. Terrace.
CREDWOOD HALL, CHESHIRE. — Wanted, any
information concerning the owners or occupiers
of Credwood Hall in the latter half of the seven-
teenth century. There is a Crewood Hall in
Eddisbury Hundred, which may, or may'not, be
identical with Credwood. Replies may be ad-
dressed, if preferred, directly to
THOMAS STEWARDSON, JR.
Germantown, Philadelphia.
FUNERAL SERMON ON REV. FRANCIS FULLER
<Lond., 1702), by Jeremy White, Chaplain to
•Cromwell. I should be glad to know where a copy
of this sermon can be seen. It is not in the
British Museum or the Bodleian. The text is
from 1 Thes. iv. 14. White is mentioned in
" N. & Q.," 2nd S. ix. 49, as " a famous rascal ";
and the sermon is there alluded to. J. E. B.
SILVER BRONZE MONET. — Is it known from
what church bell? in Paris this money was coined,
and at what period of the French Revolution ?
Were the bells of Notre Dame applied to this
purpose 1 A. M.
SIR ROGER CHOLMELEY. — Where can I find a
portrait of the founder of Highgate School ?
G. P.
"THE RELICKS OF A SAINT. A right merry
Tale. By Ferdinand Farquhar, Esq. London,
1816," 24mo. pp. vii. and 135. Ferdinand Far-
quhar is, I presume, a pseudonym. What is the
author's real name 1 There is a coloured frontis-
piece, unsigned, but which I take to be by Row-
landson. H. S. A.
THE CRESCENT, LION, AND BEAR.— During the
Russian War of 1854 some prophetical lines ap-
peared in the papers about the Crescent, the Lion,
and the Bear, — that in ten years (from date of
prophecy) the Bear would get worsted ; but that in
" twice ten years " the Bear should prevail, and
the Crescent wane. Can you give me kthese lines
in their complete form, and tell me whose they are,
and where they first appeared 1 BLACKBURNE.
ON THE ELECTIVE AND DEPOSING POWER
OP PARLIAMENT.
(4th S. xii. 321, 349, 371, 389, 416, 459 ; 5th S. i.
130, 149, 169, 189.)
(Continued from p. 191.^
As to' Henry III., not a word is said by any
chronicler of his election. Matthew of West-
minster says that, his father being dead, " Henry,
his eldest son, was anointed king," which clearly
implies that he was crowned king as being the
eldest son ; and as he was only ten years old, the
idea of the election of a boy-king is absurd. Had
the barons any idea of a right of election, they
would not have chosen a boy. Only nine days
intervened between John's death and Henry's coro-
nation, though John died at a great distance, and
the coronation must have taken place as soon as it
was actually possible after hearing of the death.
The sentence cited from Matthew of Paris, that
the barons assembled "ut Henricum in regem
exaltarent," merely means that they assembled for
his coronation.
That the king and the barons supposed that he
and his heirs had hereditary right to the crown,
just as they had to their titles and estates, is shown
by the terms of the great charter, which he con-
firmed for himself and his heirs, " pro heredibus
nostris," — language which would be idle if they had
no right to succeed to the crown, but very necessary
if they had such right. The notion of Sir Harris
Nicolas, — that his reign only began at his coronation
because in the Chancery Rolls, kept by ecclesiastics,
that is entered as the date, — is, for reasons already
given, clearly fallacious, and so of all the other
cases in which the same argument is urged.
So in the case of Edward I. : on the death
of Henry III., Matthew of Westminster states,
that "when the king had been buried, the
barons and prelates at once without delay
swore fealty to Edward, the eldest son of the late
king," that is as being his eldest son; and this
although he was absent. Not a syllable about
lection ; but Walsingham says, they recognized
him as king, " recognoverunt," and they swore
fealty to him as their king already ; for fealty
implies a pre-existing right and duty which the
oath only recognizes. Thus, therefore, the oath
ilearly implied that he was king before they swore
'ealty to him; that is, on the death of his father.
By succession, I did not intend to admit anything
inconsistent, with this. He did not receive the
oath until four days afterwards; but he was clearly
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king before he was recognized as king, or how
could he have been recognized 1
So as to Edward II. : a contemporary annalist
says, "successit et films suus Edwardus primo-
genitus paterna successions"; or, as Walsingham
says, "jure hereditario"; and though it is added,
" et etiam assensu procerum," that means no more
than recognition of his right as eldest son and heir.
For what did they assent to 1 His hereditary right
as eldest son to succeed to his father.
As the charters recognized the hereditary succes-
sion of the crown, so it was recognized by the Legis-
lature. In the reign of Edward III. the Parliament
directly recognized the right of hereditary succession
to the crown, by passing an act which provided for
the succession of children of the king born out of the
realm. Mr. Freeman, of course, finds this statute
in direct conflict with his theory of an elective mon-
archy, and so he sets himself to get rid of it, and in
defiance of the universally received construction, and
in the teeth of its terms, he actually asserts that a
statute which in terms provides for the " succession
to the throne " did not apply to the succession to
the throne, because it also applied to succession to
the titles and estates of barons ! It could only be
the exigencies of a false theory which could have
led Mr. Freeman into such an egregious eiror.
The history of the act shows it was passed specifi-
cally to meet the case of the Black Prince, who
being out of the realm, his son, Eichard of Bor-
deaux, could not otherwise have succeeded, and,
in fact, did succeed only by virtue of this act !
The case of Eichard II. is very striking, for,
though a mere boy, on the very day after his
grandfather died, he exercised an act of sovereignty
by delivery of the great seal. It is admitted that
subsequent sovereigns reckoned the day after the
death of their predecessor as the first day of
their reign. In one instance, that of Henry V.,
the proclamation of accession, after stating the
death of his father, " sic quod dicti regni successio
nobis devolvitur." There could not have been a
more distinct assertion of hereditary right, and
thus it appears that from the first the crown was
regarded as hereditary, and descended in the right
line of succession, save when the succession was
disturbed by force, as it was by the ursurpation
of the House of Lancaster; and, so strong was the
principle of hereditary succession, that it triumphec
in the restitution of Edward IV. as the right heir
— after two descents of the crown to the issue o
a usurper. In subsequent articles I propose to
trace the course of descent from Henry VII. to Her
present Majesty.
During the period mentioned there were thre<
instances of deposition of sovereigns, — Edward II
and Eichard II., who were deposed by force anc
violence, without the assent of Parliament, am
Henry VI., who was deposed with the assent o
Parliament, as not having an hereditary righ
o the crown. And it is a curious fact, and
haracteristic of the unconscious error which
esults from addiction to a false theory, that
VEr. Freeman mentions the two former, repre-
enting them as cases of deposition by Parliament,
ind does not mention the third, which really was
with the assent of Parliament, as shown in a decla-
ratory act. The reason is too obvious, that this
was declaratory of hereditary right to the crown,
which Mr. Freeman was resolved to controvert.
This strongly contrasts with the frankness of Sir
Tames Mackintosh, who avows that the deposition
)f Henry in favour of Edward VI. is the most
astounding instance of the triumph of hereditary
right.
As to the instances of Edward II. and Eichard
I., it has been shown from the original records,
.he rolls of Parliament, that in neither case was
here any deposition by Parliament, that in both
cases the king was deposed and imprisoned by
•ebels without any authority from Parliament, when
Parliament was not sitting, and merely for their
wn ends, and that in both cases, though a pretended
Parliament was illegally summoned by the usurper
in the name of an imprisoned king, and with a
view to get a sanction to their criminal and illegal
acts, the pretended Parliaments were either com-
posed of their own creatures or under terror of
military forces by which they were surrounded;
and lastly, that in both cases Parliament solemnly
•ondemned the deposition.
In answer to this, W. A. B. C. now cites some
passages from untrustworthy chroniclers, partisans
of Henry IV., who of course sought in his behalf to
make the case of Edward II. a precedent for that of
Eichard, but who, as to the former one, cannot be
regarded as authorities at all, not being contem-
poraries, and who, as to neither case, could be
regarded as authorities against the authentic
records and the solemn judgment of Parliament
itself.
Upon comparison of the accounts given by these
chroniclers with the records in the Eolls of Par-
liament, it will be seen that they have concocted
false stories to make the case of the usurper popu-
lar. Still, like most dishonest witnesses, they
betray the truth; and thus Walsingham says, after
stating the pretended resignation of Eichard, " sed
quia hoc in potestate sua non erat," that is that he
was not at liberty, so that the pretended deposition
was, of course, void; and then he goes on to state
that the estates of the realm proceeded to depose him,,
the truth being that the few who were present were
forced to do so, as has already been shown from
the records of Parliament, which afterwards con-
demned the whole proceeding as a wicked rebel-
lion. W. F. F.
(To le concluded in our next.)
5th S. I. MAR. 14, 74.]
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211
COL- IN CoL-Fox, &c. (5th S. i. 141.)— I believe
that a simpler explanation of the element col- in
all these compounds than those suggested by MR
GIBBS, may be found in the notion of cold as th
type of what is depressing, deadly, revolting to th
feelings, as in cold hearted, cold blooded, col(
comfort, cold welcome, &c. In the ballad of Lore
Bateman we have mention of "a cup of cold poison,'
and the connexion of the two ideas was felt by
Shakspeare : —
" Sir, these cold ways,
That seem like prudent helps, are very poisonous."
When the metaphorical had quite obscured the
physical sense of the word cold applied to poison
it coalesced with the latter term as a pejorative
element in the form of the compound cole-poison.
In the same way we use cold iron or cold steel to
express the deadly effect of an offensive weapon : —
" Ah me ! what perils do environ
The man who meddles with cold iron."
Whence may be explained the prayer of the
JTownley Mysteries for preservation " From alle
byllehagers with colknyfes that go."
A slight extension of the metaphor gives rise to
the use of cold prophets for false prophets, an ex-
pression found in two of the passages cited by MR.
GIBBS ; while in others of about the same period it
is written col-prophet or cole-prophet. In the Old
Norse, mischievous or evil counsels are spoken of
as cold counsels ; and the word kaldr, cold, is ex-
plained by Cleasby as metaphorically signifying
baneful, fatal ; kold-rodd, an evil voice ; kald-yrSi,
cold words, sarcasm ; kald-rctiSr, cold counsel,
cunning. From this last we must probably ex-
plain col- fox as the cunning fox : —
" And into counsalis geving he was hald
Ane man not undegest, bot wise and cald."
D. V., 374, 9.
It may be noticed that cold occurs in the sense
of deceptive, mischievous, fatal, in the same tale
with col-fox.
"Women's counsalis ben of tin ful colde,
And women's counsaile brought us first to wo."
1. 1371 (Urry).
This is the 0. N. proverb, " Kb'ld era kvenna ra«,"
cold are the counsels of women.
The other words referred to by MR. GIBBS are
quite unconnected with the foregoing. " Colle our
dogge" doubtless is rightly identified with the
Scotch collie, a shepherd's dog, which does not,
however, signify a fox-faced dog, but a bob-tailed
one, as shown in my Dictionary, the tail of the
shepherd's dog being commonly docked.
Coll, in the sense of dupe, like cully (but not like
gull, which is totally different), is in all probability
the Fr. couille, a lubberly coward, a white-livered
slimme.— Cotgrave. See " Cozen," " Cully," in my
Dictionary. H. WEDGWOOD.
31, Queen Anne Street, W.
I feel convinced that col is put for coal, and
means nothing more than black, or what black
means when used metaphorically. Of anything
unusually dark in colour, we say that it is coal-
black, or as black as a coal, and this alike of things
animate and inanimate. A col-fox may therefore
mean either a black fox or a sly fox. With col-
prophet it is different, for, no doubt, here the word
is employed in a metaphorical sense only. The
Eomans so employed it constantly — that is, its
equivalents ater and niger. Thus, to go no further
than Horace, we have (Carm. iii., 27, 18-20), —
" Ego quid sit ater
Adriaj, novi, sinus, et quid albus
Peccet lapyx."
where ater=disastrous, is opposed to albus=pro-
pitious. Again (Sat. i., 4, 85): —
" Hie niger est ; hunc tu, Romane, caveto. "
warning against the covert slanderer or backbiter,
no bad counterpart of " Chaucer's col-fox (ful of
sly Iniquitee)."
As we say of some atrocious action, it was a
black deed ; so of the person who committed it,
he was a black-hearted miscreant.
A "false prophet" is an evil, wicked, lying
prophet, as were the prophets of Ahab, and so he
may be fitly called a col=black prophet.
I say nothing about tregetour, being ignorant of
the word, unless it has to do with treget, from the
French triche, meaning deceit.
Many, perhaps, may differ from me, but I take
atrox, if not a derivative of, to have some affinity
with, ater. EDMUND TEW, M.A.
" WARLOCK " (5th S. i. 129.)— This word is, I
think, not to be derived from the Anglo-Saxon
waerkga, a promise-breaker, but from the Icelandic
word varftlokkur, spirit-charmers. The meaning
of this word will be best understood from the
following quotation. Towards the end of the
ienth century there was an Icelandic settler in
~reenland, by name ^orkell. One winter he in-
vited a prophetess (volva), to foretell the seasons
and other important events. When everything
lad been prepared for the sorcery —
" She requested to have women who knew the lore
necessary for that purpose, and were called var^lokkur
spirit-charmers, warlocks). Such women were not to be
bund. They inquired of the people of the house
whether they knew it, and GuSri&ur replied : ' I am
neither a witch, nor a woman skilled in ancient lore,
)ut my Icelandic nurse, Halldis, taught me a song
which she called vcffSloklcur.' Jjorkell said : ' Your
knowledge is most opportune.' She replied : ' I will
lave no hand in this business, because I am a Christian
woman.' At last, however, she consented, and sang
he song so beautifully that those present never had
leard the like of it before. When she had finished,
he prophetess thanked her for her singing, and said :
Many spirits who before wished to part from us, and
were disobedient, have been attracted by the beautiful
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[5th S. I. MAE. 14, 71.
singing, and now I can plainly see many things that
were hidden from me before.'" — Antiq. Americ., by
Christian Kafn, p. 109.
The word var%lokkur is composed of var^ (from
vijfftr, genit. varft-ar, a guardian), and the verb
lokka, to allure, entice, charm. It thus means the
charmers of guardian spirits. In the extract which
I have given above, it is used both of the song
and the female singers who were to sing it. The
signification "spirit charmer" agrees so completely
with the meaning of the Scotch warlock, a person
conversant with spirits, a witch, that there cannot
be much doubt about the identity of the two
words. Another form of the word is urftarlokur,
a guarding song, a song for charming spirits.
J<5N A. HJALTAL!N.
Advocates' Library, Edinburgh.
THOMAS MOTTETT, M.D. (5th S. i. 129.)— It was
Thomas Muffett, or Moufet, who wrote Health's
Improvement, and not Muggett, as suggested by
L. D. This work was corrected and enlarged by
Christopher Bennett, M.D., and published in 1655,
4to. pp. 296. Its value is given by Lowndes, viz.,
" Caldecott, 21"
Thomas Moufet, M.D., was the author of
Insectorum, sive Minimorum Animalium Thea-
trum, Lond., 1634, folio. This work is considered
to be of some merit, consisting of 326 pages, with
"numerous woodcuts, wretchedly executed." It
was translated into English (by J. E. ?) in Edward
Topsell's Gesner's Four-Footed Beast and Serpents,
folio. The first 54 pages of Moufet's " curious and
scarce book " (as it is called by Haworth) contain
a minute account of bees. Mr. Swainson says
that this was " the first zoological work ever printed
in Britain." He wrote also De Jure et Prcestantia
Chemicorum Medicamentorum Dialogus Apolo-
geticus, Franc., 1584, and Nosomantica Eippo-
cratia, &c., Franc., 1588. A poem, entitled Silk
Wormes and their Flies, is attributed to Moufet,
" London, V.S., for Nich. Ling," 1599, 4to. See
Athen. Oxon., for an account of this author.
W. WINTERS.
Waltham Abbey.
THE BURIAL or GIPSIES (5th S. i. 129.) —
" Ashena, daughter of Edward and Greenleaf Bos-
well," was no doubt a gipsy girl, for Boswell is a
gipsy name. The Cheshire gipsies are many of
them of the Boswell family. Gipsies also are
anxious to have their children duly baptized. There
is one couple who always bring their children to
Mobberley church in Cheshire for this purpose, and
they are fond of peculiar names. One was chris-
tened Luirena, a name which puzzled the rector
considerably. The parents could neither read nor
write, and had not the remotest notion how the
name was to be spelled ; but it was the mother'
name, and they wished the child to be named after
her mother. The rector at last made a dash at it,
and spelled it as nearly as he could according to
their pronunciation. These, too, were Boswells.
EGBERT HOLLAND.
" At Ickleford Church (Hertfordshire) was buried in
1780 Henry Boswell, King of the Gipsies, aged 90."
The Family Topographer, by Samuel Tymms, vol i. p. 48.
HARDRIC MORPHTN.
THE WAKON-BIRD (5th S. i. 9.) — I am now able
bo furnish a copy of Carver's description, which
may afford assistance towards the elucidation of a
mystery in which I am greatly interested: —
"The Wakon-Bird, as it is termed by the Indians,
appears to be of the same species as the birds of paradise.
The name they have given it is expressive of its
superior excellence, and the veneration they have for it;
the wakon-bird being in their language the bird of the
Great Spirit. It is nearly the size of a swallow, of a
brown colour, shaded about the neck with a bright green ;
the wings are of a darker brown than the body ; its tail
is composed of four or five feathers, which are three
times as long as its body, and which are beautifully shaded
with green and purple. It carries this fine length of
plumage in the same manner as a peacock does, but it is
not known whether it ever raises it into the erect position
that bird sometimes does. I never saw any of these
birds in the colonies, but the Naudowessie Indians caught
several of them when I was in their country, and seemed
to treat them as if they were of a superior rank to any
other of the feathered race." — Travels through the Interior
Parts of North America in the years 1766, 1767, and
1768. By J. Carver. London, 1781.
H. G.
GODWIT (5th S. i. 129.)— On the first blush, it
would seem that this word is derived, like Pewit,
viz., from the sound made by the bird ; but this
can hardly be. Webster derives the name from
Icelandic god, and veide. Haldorsen renders god
idolum, but does not give veide. Ash says the
Godwit is a bird of very delicate flesh, and he
derives the name from Saxon god, good, and wita
(wuht, wiht, uht, Bosworth), an animal. Latham
says the Godwit is of the genus Limosa ; but
Nemnich classes it under .ZEgocephala (Scolopax),
and makes Limosa (Scolopax) the lesser Godwit.
B. Jonson (Alchemist) and Cowley write the
name Godwit, not Godwin. It is also called in
English Yarwhelp, Yanvip; in Welsh Rhostog ;
in German Geisskopfschnepfe, Uferschnepfe, Rotti-
hals, Gelbnase; and in Latin Attagena.
K. S. CHARNOCK.
Gray's Inn.
P.S. In some languages the Godwit is confounded
with the green Plover or Pewit.
Skinner gives two derivations for this word, and
is followed by several of our subsequent etymolo-
gists. He first suggests that it is derived from
the A.S. god, good, and wita, a wiseman, counsellor,
and nobleman, because a bird of such rarity and
delicacy of flesh was only to be found on the
tables of the wealthy, or, in other words, that the
godwit formed a dish "fit for the gods." His
5th S. I. MAE. 14,74]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
213
second suggestion is far more plausible, and is
probably, I should suppose, the correct one — god
good, and iviht, animal. J. CHARLES Cox.
Hazelwood, Belper.
Drayton sang : —
" The Puet, Godwit, stint, the'palate that allure,
The miser and doe make a wasteful epicure."
Bewick informs us that the godwit is still rnucl
esteemed by epicures as a great delicacy, and sell
very high, see Brit. Birds, ii. 79. This bird
" Scolopax oegocephala," was considered as an
article of luxury at one time. • Ben Jonson men
tions it as such : —
" Your eating
Pheasants and Godwit, here in London, haunting
The Globes and Mermaids ! wedging in with lords
Still at the table."
W. WINTERS.
Waltham Abbey.
" MITTITUR IN DISCO," &c. (5th S. i. 145.) — Noi
very far from the said fifty years ago I also hearc
these lines ; but in a more accurate form than, ]
venture to think, MR. RANDOLPH has them. They
are a mixture of the hexameter with the monkish
rhyme, and both can be given with a nearer
approach to correctness, allowing for the tradition;
of each metre, and for the doggerel intermixture oi
the two. The Latin was —
" Mittitur in disco mihi piscis ab Archiepisco-
-po : non ponatur, quia potum non mihi datur."
The English :—
"Here in a dish is come a fish, sent by the Archbish-
-op : 'tis not here, for he gave me no beer."
The second h in Archbishop ought not to be re-
peated. Unless the colon is put as I have put it,
the grammar is rained ; and " is " ought clearly to
be " 'tis." " There," in MR. RANDOLPH'S lines is,
I suspect, a misprint ; for it rhymes badly and
gives no sense. The man is talking of his own
dinner-table, " here." LYTTELTON.
" The only perfect reproduction of a couplet in a
different idiom occurred when the Archbishop of York
sent a salmon to the Chronicler of Malmesbury, with re-
quest for a receipt in verse, which was handed to bearer
in duplicate : —
" ' Mittitur in disco mihi piscis ab Archiepisco-
-Po non ponetur nisi potus. Pol ! mihi detur.
I 'm sent a fyshe, in a dyshe, by the Archbish-
-Hop is not put here. Egad ! he sent no beere.'
' ' Sense, rhythm, point, and even pun are here miracu-
lously reproduced."— The Reliques of Father Prout. Ed.
Bohn, 1860. Preface, p. v.
T. W. C.
In the monkish Latin distich on the Arch-
bishop's present of a fish, the second line is
imperfect. I remember it used to read as a com-
plete hexameter, and, I think, thus :—
" -po non ponatur, quia potum non mihi datur."
W. P. P.
[WrccAMicus wishes to remind MR. RANDOLPH that
this couplet was written in A.D. 1170.]
HUNGARY (5th S. i. 107.)— Histories of the War
of Independence in Hungary during 1848 : —
1. The War of Independence in Hungary. By General
Klapka. 2 vols. 1850.
2. The War in Hungary. By Max Schlesinger. Trans-
lated by J. E. Taylor. 2 vols. 1850.
3. Hungary and Hungarian Struggle. By T. G.
Clark. 1850.
4. Kossuth and the Last Revolution in Hungary and
Transylvania. 1850.
E. A. P.
MEDIAEVAL WINES (5th S. i. 107, 193.)— Will
you allow me to offer my thanks to those who
have kindly answered my query on this subject,
and especially to P. P. for the expression of his
willingness to send me a bottle of Malmsey if he
had one ? I think CROWDOWN will find that clary
is not a mere synonym of claret. It is a British
wine, made from the clary or paigle flower, and of
the same class as cowslip wine.
HERMENTRUDE.
A " COAST " OF LAMB (5th S. i. 188.)— Surely
this term means " the ribs " or " a side " of lamb.
Cote, Fr. from costa; whence cotelette, a cutlet, a
little rib. T. J. A.
BROWNING'S " LOST LEADER " (4th S. xii. 473,
519 ; 5th S. i. 71, 138, 192.)— Two years ago Mr.
Browning himself, in reply to a correct guess of
mine, told me that Wordsworth was the " Lost
Leader." WALTER THORNBURY.
Furnival's Inn.
I ought to have stated that Mr. Browning told
my friend that, although the " Lost Leader " was
undoubtedly Wordsworth, the portrait was " pur-
posely disguised a little, used in short as an artist
uses a model, retaining certain characteristic traits,
and discarding the rest."
JONATHAN BOUCHIER.
DR. JOHNSON AND THE SHEPHERD IN VIRGIL
(5th S. i. 130.)— H. W. will find the allusion of
Dr. Johnson, in the Bucolica of Virgil, eclogue
viii. 1. 43 : —
"Nunc scio, quid sit Amor; duris in cotibua ilium
Aut Tmaros, aut Rhodope, aut extremi Garamantes,
Nee generis nostri puerum nee sanguinis edunt."
Compare with these the lines of Theocritus,
Idyl iii. 1. 15 :—
Nw 6yvo)VTov"EpwTa'/?apvs $eos' rjpa Aeatvas
"Ma£ov !#»/A.a£e, Spv/zw re viv expose paTr/p"
E. A. D.
See Eclogue viii. 43-45. Croker says, he sees
neither the object nor, indeed, the meaning of this
allusion. To me Johnson seems to have meant
' that he had grown at last acquainted with a
)atron, and found him as unfeeling as a flint-stone."
J. H. I. OAKLEY.
See Eclogue viii. 1. 43. Milburn objects to
)ryden's translation : —
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[5th S. I. MAR. 14, 74.
" I know thee, love ; in desarts thou wert bred,
And at the dugs of salvage tigers fed,
Alien of birth, usurper of the plains,"
and substitutes : —
" Now, now I know thee, Love ! Thy birth must be
On horrid Tmaros, or cold Rhodope,
Or in the inmost Libya's dismall wild,
Hideous with threatning Rocks, and sand untill'd
No humane blood e'er fill'd thy barbarous veins."
whilst Lauderdale renders it : —
" I know what Love is now, its birth must be
On horrid Ismaros, or cold Rhodope,
Or Libya's wild supplies thy barbarous veins."
EDWARD SOLLY.
THE PASS OF FINSTERMUNZ (5th S. i. 148.) —
In this pass, during the war of 1809, the Tyrolese
destroyed a band of Bavarians by rolling on them
trees, rocks, &c. Southey alludes to this in his
notes to Don Roderick. The passage on which he
notes is at p. 220 : —
"And forthwith
On either side, along the whole defile,
The Asturians, shouting in the name of God,
Set the whole ruin loose ! Huge trunks and stones
"Sir, — Mr. Campy a Savoyard Friar
is at present to be the bringer to you
of this Letter. He is one of the most
vicious Persons that I ever yet
knew. He has earnestly desired me
to give him a Letter to you of
Recommendation, wch I have granted to his
Importunity. For believe me, Sir,
I should be very sorry if you should be
mistaken in not knowing him well ;
as a great many other Persons have been
who are of my very best Friends here.
I am very desirous to advertise you
to take particular Notice of him
and to say nothing in his presence
in any sort. For with Truth I do
assure you, there cannot be a more
unworthy person in the whole World.
I am certain, that, as soon as you
have occasion of knowing him you
will thank me for this Advice.
Civility will not permit me to
say any more on this subject.
The real purport of the letter will be found by
folding the paper so that the right edge falls exactly
on the line which I have drawn down the middle,
leaving visible only that which is written on the
left side. FRED. NORGATE. .
Henrietta Street, Covent Garden.
[For Cardinal Richelieu's Letter, see « N. & Q." 1" S.
xi.223.]
I send the following equivoque on the state of
France at the beginning of the [Revolution : —
" A la nouvelle loi
Je renonce dans 1'ame
Comme epreuve de ma foi
Je crois celle qu'on blame
Dieu vous donne la paix
Noblesse desolee
Je veux etre fidele
Au regime ancien
Je crois la loi nouvelle
Opposee a tout bien :
Messieurs les democrats,
Au diable allez-vous-en :
And loosened crags, down, down they rolled, with rush
And bound and thundering force."
0. F. S. WARREN, M.A.
S. H. Y. might consult Von Bartholdy (I.L.S.),
Der Krieg der Tyroler Landleute im Jahre 1809,
Berl., 1814. Speaking of the place from which
the Pass takes its name, Zedler (Univ. Lex.) says : —
"An diesem Ort wurden an. 1709 die Bayern und
Franzosen, als sie durch Tyrol gegen Trient eindringen,
und sich mit dem Herzog von Vendome conjungiren
wollten, von denen Tyroler Bauern, unter anfiihrung
Christen Knippels zuriick geschlagen." — Miinster, Cos-
mogr. v. 282.
K. S. CHARNOCK.
Gray's Inn.
CURIOUS LITERATURE (5th S. i. 130.) — I have
never seen in print the letter to which S. M. C.
refers, but have a manuscript copy (above 100 years
old) of an English translation of it. It purports to
be not from Kichelieu, as stated by your corre-
spondent, but from Cardinal Mazarin, and is
addressed to the French Ambassador at Home. It
is as follows : —
of the Order of Saint Benedict
of particular News from me &
wise, discreet, and least wicked or
amongst all I have convers'd with
to write to you in his Favour, &
credence on his own Behalf, & my
merit, I do assure you more yn to his
he is one that deserves the .best Esteem,
wanting to oblige him by yr being
I should be much afflicted if you were,
on that account, who now esteem him, &
Sir, for this, & for no other motive,
that you are most particularly oblig'd
& to give him all imaginable respect ;
that may offend or displease him
say, I love him as I love myself, &
strong or convincing Argum1 of an
than to be willing to do him an Injury
cease to be a stranger to his virtue, &
will love him as much as I do, &
The Assurance I have of your great
write any further of him to you, or to
I am, &c.
MAZAKIN."
Qu'il confonde a jamais
Messieurs de 1'Assemblee
Tous les Aristocrats
Ont eux seuls le bon sens.'
J. H. I. OAKLEY.
"DESIER" (5th S. i. 148.)— This name may be
corrupted from that of Desiderius. Menage
(Vocab. Hagiologique) gives under Desiderius,
S. Didier, S. Dizier, S. Desery, S. Drezery, and
S. Desir (Liege). The name might also be i. q.
the French name Tessier, from tissier, tixier, which
Roquefort renders, " tisserand, homme qui fait de
la toile ou des etoffes." E. S. CHARNOCK.
Gray's Inn.
P.S. Koquefort renders 0. FT. desier, "desir,
volonte." Desire is found in Bowditch's Suffolk
(American) Surnames.
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
215
This is probably a mis-spelling. Desirez is no
an uncommon French name. The Latin form
Desiderius, is familiar as the name of Erasmus.
HERBERT RANDOLPH.
This is probably only a phonetic spelling o
Desire, which has been often used as a Christia
name for both sexes. Desiderius Erasmus wi
occur to every one. Miss Yonge (History o
Christian Names) gives for the feminine, Desira
It., Desiree, JV.=beloved. E. V.
This is probably a corruption of the Frenc'
Desiree. I think I have met with " Desire " em
ployed as a woman's name in an American work o
nction. TENEOR.
THE DAR-DAOAL OR DHARRIG DHAEL (4th S
xii. 469.) — This superstition has been recorded in
4th S. x. 183, and the insect was identified by m
in 4th S. xi. 221. Since my note, I have heart
from Irish people near London a similar story t<
that given by MR. LENIHAN, namely, that it i
meritorious to kill the insect, and that an indul
gence is attached to so doing — which is, I neec
hardly say, incorrect. JAMES BRITTEN.
A NEGRO ETONIAN (5th S. i. 149.)— The ques
tion would easily be solved by sending to the
Head Master, or to the Provost, Elliot's full Chris-
tian names, with the date at which he is supposed
to have been at Eton. .The admission books, in
which these are always entered, would give the
answer. ETONENSIS.
GEORGE I. AT LYDD (5th S. i. 144.)— It is, I
think, worth while to observe that this visit took
place in 1726, not 1724. The King, on his return
from Hanover, arrived at Helvoets Sluys on the
27th of December, 1725, but the weather was too
bad for him to cross over till Saturday, the 1st of
January, 1726, wh'en he embarked in the "Royal
Caroline" yacht for Dover. He encountered a
violent storm ; the fleet were in great danger ; and
though one of the yachts got into Dover Harbour,
the King's could not; and he landed in con-
siderable peril, at Rye, on Monday, the 3rd, and
did not reach London till ten at night on Sunday
the 9th. It would be interesting to know if any
details are preserved of his three days' sojourn at
Rye. EDWARD SOLLY.
" QTTANTO POST FESTUM," &c. (5th S. i. 149.)—
This saying appears to be a form of the well-
known —
" Si sol splendescit Maria purificante
Majus erit frigus post festum quam fuit ante."
TENEOR.
The distich MR. WALLER inquires for must, I
think, be that belonging to the Feast of the Purifi-
cation, Feb. 2nd : —
" Si sol splendescat Maria purificante
Major erit glacies post festum quam fuit ante."
H. CROMIE.
16, Lansdown Place, Cheltenham.
" THE WHITE ROSE AND RED " (5th S. i. 148.)
— I have been told that the author of this poem is
Mr. Robert Buchanan. CUTHBERT BEDE.
"A PROGNOSTICATION FOR THE YEAR OF OUR
LORD GOD, 1569," &c. (5th S. i. 148.)— This would
certainly not be considered a Salisbury book.
Thomas Marshe was a well-known London printer ;
and for a list of works printed by him, see Ames's
Herbert, vol. ii. G. W. N.
Alderley Edge.
KNIGHT BIO'RN (5th S. i. 167.) — jBiora=English
"bear." The meaning of Durer's etching, com-
monly called The Knight, Death, and the Devil, is
still uncertain. Different critics interpret it very
differently. The late Mr. Henry F. Holt (Gentle-
man's Magazine, October, 1866) identified it with
the Nemesis, an etching repeatedly mentioned by
Diirer himself, which by other critics had been
before supposed to be respectively the Justice and
the Great Fortune. Mr. Holt's elaborate argument
I held at the time, and still hold, to be untenable.
It rests on his supposition of the " devilish snare,"
which, I maintain, is no snare, but simply a first-
drawn outline of the horse's hoof, afterwards dis-
guised and partially hidden by the tuft of grass.
I pointed out this in a note printed in " N. & Q.,"
3rd S. xi. 95, and afterwards in the Gentleman's
Magazine of April, 1867 (by its editor's request).
With this " snare " Mr. Holt's theory either lives
or dies. It is the one point on which the whole
argument depends. Though I received several
courteous letters from Mr. Holt on the subject, he
did not, so far as I know, put forth any printed
defence of his snare-theory. I was not aware
until after the appearance of my note in "N. & Q."
hat Mr. Ruskin (Modern Painters, v. 243) had
already drawn attention to the half-obliterated
"alse outline of the hoof. The passage from
Modern Painters is quoted in " N. & Q.," 3rd S.
ti. 222. Mr. Ruskin lays no stress upon this
alse outline ; while Mr. Holt bases his whole ar-
gument upon it, as the supposed " snare." To
>ass on, Mr. Ruskin names the picture The Forti-
ude, coupling it with the Melancholia, and
{firming that the former represents Faith mani-
'ested in Fortitude, and the latter Faith manifested
n Labour. That these two pictures are a pair —
be one the antithesis of the other — I have never
oubted. My own interpretation, which I could
upport by references to detail after detail, is that
''he Knight represents the active life, and the
Melancholia the contemplative life ; each life
eing equally represented on its unsatisfactory
de, the one in no way exalted above the other.
JOHN ADDIS.
216
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5th S. I. MAR. 14, 74.
MUSEUMS AND NATURAL HISTORY SOCIETIES
(5th S. i. 169.)— A. X. Y. will find the Natural
History Societies that existed, in 1853 in the
United Kingdom, in the Learned Societies, &c.,
by the Rev. A. Hume, with supplement by A. J.
Evans, ed. 1853. CHARLES MASON.
3, Gloucester Crescent, Hyde Park, W.
"Ls GAFFE, ou L'ECOSSAISE" (5th S. i. 50, 114.)—
Want of leisure, and the belief that the author-
ship of Le Cafi°6 was so well known that others of
your correspondents would give MR. PRESLEY the
information he desired, has hitherto prevented me
from replying to this query, but the extraordinary
reply of MR. E. SOLLY, in your number of Feb. 7,
compels me to do so. :' Le Caffd o« I'JScossaise,
par M. Hume Pasteur de 1'Eglise d'Edimbourg "
is a well-known squib of Voltaire, written in ridi-
cule of Freron, who in some editions appears under
the name of " Frelon," in others under that of
" Wasp." Few of Voltaire's minor pieces caused
more amusement to the Parisians than Le Gaffe.
The details of the quarrel between Voltaire and
Freron, and an account of this comedy, are to be
found in all the numerous lives of Voltaire, and
the piece itself in all the editions of his works.
MR. SOLLY, in addition to taking the piece au
grand serieux, appears strangely enough to have
confused John Hume, of Ninewells, the brother
of the historian, with his distant relative the Kev.
John Home, the well-known author of Douglas.
THE " HISTOIRE DE LA REVOLUTION DE
FRANCE," par Deux Amis de la Liberte", 4 vols.
12mo., Paris, 1792 (5th S. i. 50), appears to be the first
four volumes of the work under that title in 19 vols.
12mo. (or 20 vols. 8vo.), written, as to the first
6 vols., by F. M. Kerverseau, and Clavelin the book-
seller, and continued by V. Lombard, D. L^riquet,
and Oaignart de Mailly. See Barbier, Dictionnaire
dts Ouvrages Anonymes. R. C. CHRISTIE.
" THE FAIR CONCUBINE," &c. (5th S. i. 28, 76'
172.)— -In addition to the illustrations of the
scandalous history of the Hon. Anne Vane, and
Frederick, Prince of Wales, supplied by your
correspondents, allow me to refer to Lord Hervey's
Memoirs of the Reign of George II., 1848, vol. i.
p. 329, and note, and other parts of this work,
which is sadly defective in lacking an index;
likewise to Walpole's Reminiscences of the Courts
of George I. and II., prefixed to The Letters of
Horace Walpole, edit., 1857, vol. i. p. cxxxvi,
note 2 ; also to an engraving comprised in the
British Museum " Collection of Satirical Prints,"
entitled "A Satire referring to the Marriage of
Frederick, Prince of Wales, to the Princess
Augusta of Saxe-Gotha," dated April 25, 1736,
the day of the Princess's landing in England.
This work the curious may see in the Print Room,
on applying for the folio of satires for 1736. The
design is adapted from that by Hogarth, en-
titled " Henry VIII. and Anne Boleyn," and
represents a handsomely furnished chamber, with,
on our left, an unoccupied throne, on the lowest
of the steps of which is seated a corpulent gentle-
man, said to be intended for Charles Boden, wha
looks with great dissatisfaction at the meeting of a
young man, the prince, and a lady, the princess,
both of whom are splendidly dressed. The former
is about to lead the latter to the throne. In the
background, seated in a chair, is a second young
lady, evidently in great despondency. At the side
of her chair stands a little boy, with plumes in his
hat. These are Miss Vane and her son. Below the
design are fourteen engraved lines, beginning : — •
" View here Three different States in real Life
The Pimp the Miss forsaken and the Wife
The Happy Pair -with Mutual Transports smile
And by Fond Looks each other's care beguile
Backwards behold the Effects of Lawless Love
In silent Grief each heedless Maid reprove
Sbe feels the pangs of scorn, her Lover's hate
Mourns her Undoing & grows wise too late," &c.
All the works named by your correspondents, with
the exceptions, probably, of " A Satire on the
Prince's Marriage," 1736, and "Alexis's Paradise,"
&c., are in the Library of the British Museum.
The frontispiece to " The • Fair Concubine" is
described in the Catalogue of Satirical Prints,
&c., in the British Museum, as "A Satire on Miss
Vane (Vanella)," No. 1905, c. 1732. The entry
in this Catalogue respecting the print first named
above summarizes the history of the circumstances
in question. There is a frontispiece to Vanelia,
&c., 1732, which has been ascribed to Hogarth,
showing the prince and Miss Vane, and described
in the Catalogue as No. 1905a. The portrait of
this mistress of the stupidest of heirs-apparent was
painted by Vanderbank, and engraved by Faber.
She has pearls in her hair. (See " Bromley,1'
Period vin., Class ix., 2nd Subd.) F. G. S.
SUNDAY NEWSPAPERS (5th S. i. 121, 155, 197.)
— The Sunday Times must have commenced in
1820, if the date of the Independent Whig is cor-
rectly given in " N. & Q." The Sunday Times
was a continuation of Mr. White's paper, the Inde-
pendent Whig. The late John Kemble Chapm<*n
(many years the proprietor of the Sunday Times} as-
sured me of the above origin of his paper. N.
At p. 222, MR. RAYNER refers to Sell's Weekly
Messenger, and in the concluding paragraph says,
" The day of publication has of late years been
changed to Monday." This is not altogether cor-
rect. Bell's Weeldy Messenger, as he says, was
originally published on Sunday, and continued to
be so for some years until a Monday's edition was
issued, devoting itself principally to agriculture.
With this edition, after a time, the Farmers'
Journal was amalgamated, and since then the
Monday's edition has been called Bell's Weekly
Messenger and Farmers' Journal. BelPs Weekly
5th S. I. MAR. 14, 74]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
217
Messenger, as a general (Conservative) newspaper,
is published on Saturday.
DOUGLAS Cox, Publisher.
THE WATERLOO AND PENINSULAR MEDALS
(5th S. i. 47, 98, 136.)— The Waterloo medal was
granted to combatants and non-combatants alike,
and without distinction, not, as stated by MR.
DILKE, " to combatants only." The military war
medal, commonly called " The Peninsular Medal,"
of the 1st June, 1847, was conferred upon officers,
non-commissioned officers, and soldiers, as " a
mark of their Sovereign's gracious recollection of
their services," from 1793 to 1814, not only in the
Peninsula, but also in Egypt, Italy, West Indies,
and America. The Queen, at the same time,
granted a similar distinction for naval services
from 1793 to 1815-40. J. W. FLEMING.
Brighton.
OLD METRICAL TITLE-DEEDS (4th S. xii. 69,
170, 395 ; 5th S. i. 157.)— The metrical title-deed
said to have been written by William the Con-
queror, in his third regnal year, is, of course, a
ridiculous forgery. King William was not ac-
quainted with the language in which it is written,
which is Northern English of the fourteenth cen-
tury ! WALTER W. SKEAT.
" PRESTER JOHN " AND THE ARMS OF THE SEE
OF CHICHESTER (4th S. xii. 228, 294, 457 ; 5th S.
i. 15, 177.) — Can the suggestion have been made
in sober earnest, that a bishop in the eleventh
century re-named, as St. Prester John's, St. Peter's
Church, in honour of the subject of a mere hearsay,
or of a Nestorian heretic 1 The first historic " John,
the high priest" of the Nestorian forgeries addressed
to Louis of France, was killed in 1204. Stigand
died in 1087 (Ann. Winton, sub anno). The
author of the letter-press in Winkles's Cathedrals,
reviving the grotesque blunder about the arms of
Chichester, being hard pressed, gives the following
mystical rationale : —
" It is seemingly born [sic] in allusion to the power of
the Church, the book in hand, but the sword or power in
the mouth is emblematical of the eloquence necessary to
enforce the doctrine in the book by which the Church is
maintained."
The blunder about the seal dates from the latter
part of the seventeenth century, when Jeremy
Taylor talks of " Mas John," and Thorndike, of
" Prester John's dominion or the country of the
Abyssines," and of " the Eastern churches under
Prester John that are thought to come from
Nestorius."
It arose from a corruption of St. Peter's, a title
belonging to the parish church formerly in the
north wing, and erroneously attributed to the
whole cathedral in a document of Henry VIII. in
1539, and in 1742 in Ecton's Thesaurus.
The cathedral was built on the site of St. Peter's
Minster wholly by Ealph, who succeeded in 1091
(W. Malm., 207), and dedicated by him in 1108
(Ang. Sac., 297) to the Holy Trinity, accord-
ing to concurrent testimony of our charters,
capitular records, unbroken official usage down to
the present time, and the decision of an eccle-
siastical judge. MACKENZIE E. C. WALCOTT.
USE OF INVERTED COMMAS (5th S. i. 9, 75, 154.)
— The remark of JABEZ reminds me that Ben
Jonson used inverted commas, or rather " (for
the " are omitted), at the beginnings of one or
more lines intended to convey an emphatic, or
weighty, or aphoristic saying. He reserved their
use for his tragedies of Sejamis and Catiline, or
for such more serious parts of his comedies as the
Induction to Every Man out of his Humour, or
the like ; or where, in Cynthia's Revels, Arete, or
Cynthia herself, that is, Queen Elizabeth, speaks
and introduces such a phrase as —
" Yeares are beneath the spheres : and time makes weake
" Things under heaven, not powers which governe heaven.
On examination I find them used in the quarto
Sejanus of 1605 and quarto Catiline of 1611, as
well as in the folios of 1616 and 1640. I have
seen them also in another old book, but cannot at
present remember its title. In his English Gram-
mar Jonson makes no mention of this mark.
Quotation in those days was denoted by italics, or
if the rest were in italics or black-letter, by Eoman
letters — see Ben Jonson, &c., and Nash and Harvey's
controversy passim. B. NICHOLSON.
KINGLEADER (5th S. i. 146.) — To the instances
given by Lord Coleridge and the Kev. J. Hoskyns-
Abrahall, of the word " ringleader " occurring in
no bad sense, the following extract from Clearer's
Proverbs (quoted in Latham's Johnson's Dictionary)
may be added : —
" He mentioneth the hee-goat, who being the ring-
leader of the flocke, not onely walketh before the same
with a certaine statelines, but with cheerfulnes in the
sight of the rest."— Clearer, Proverbs, p. 532 (Ord. MS.).
Halliwell says " ringleader " occurs in the sense
of " the person who opens a ball " in Holly band's
Didionarie, 1593. SPARKS H. WILLIAMS.
18, Kensington Crescent W.
TOMB OF WITTIKIND (5th S. i. 147.) — I never
heard the name Tr^moigne applied to Cologne, or
that Duke Wittikind had a tomb there. According
to the old Sdchsische Chronicle, he died in his ar-
mour in A.D. 807, and was buried in the abbey,
which he had himself founded at Enger or Angria,
in Westphalia. His body was afterwards re-
moved by Henry I. to Wallersleben, near Bremen,
and finally taken to Paderborn, and placed in a
tomb in the Cathedral there, which bears his
image.
The bones of the three kings were said to have
been brought .from Milan to Cologne by Count
Eeinold, about 1164, a man whom the old writers
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5th S. I. MAR. 14, 74.
describe like the gallant Montrose " da er mit der
Lanze wie mit der Feder seinem Kaiser niitzlich
war." They were termed kings and sages, but, I
think, never monks. EDWARD SOLLY.
PICTURE BY FROBEN OF BASEL (5th S. i. 147.) —
The arms cut on the panel described by G. D. T.
are those of the famous Colbert, but I am unable
to say whether the picture was his property or
that of another of the name. The Colberts,
Marquesses of Seignelay, Croissy, Torcy, Sabl^,
Maulevrier, Colbert-Chabannais or St. Ponange,
all bore the same arms. JOHN WOODWARD.
I have an engraved portrait which precisely
agrees with the description of the painting given by
G. D. T., except that the inscription on the window-
sill ends with " T. Y. P.," and does not give the
painter's name. Can any of your correspondents
give me the name of the engraver ?
GEORGE POTTER.
42, Grove Road, Holloway.
THE SHERIFFS OF WORCESTERSHIRE (5th S. i.
149.) — 1778, Edward Whitcombe of Orlton ;
1779, John Foster of Stourbridge ; 1780, Eichard
Amphlett of Hadzor ; 1825, Thomas Shrawley
Vernon of Shrawley. My authority for the above
is the Gentleman's Magazine.
EDWARD PEACOCK.
ELEAZAR WILLIAMS (5th S. i. 160.)— He died
in America in 1858 (See Knickerbockers Maga-
zine for that year), leaving a son.
C. F. S. WARREN, M.A.
AGNES BULMER AND " MESSIAH'S KINGDOM v
(5th S. i. 149.)— Several particulars of the life,
literary work, &c., of this authoress are given in
my Singers and Songs of the Church, p. 355, taken
from a Memoir by her sister, Anne Boss Collinson,
1837. JOSIAH MILLER, M.A.
142, Brecknock Road, N.
In addition to Messiah's Kingdom, Allibone
gives, under Miss Bulmer's name, "Scripture
Histories, 3 vols.," and " Select Letters, with Notes
by Bunting." He mentions a Memoir of her by
Anne B. Collinson, which would doubtless give
MR. OAKLEY the information he seeks. In no
biographical dictionary can I find a notice of this
lady. SPARKS H. WILLIAMS.
18, Kensington Crescent, W.
THE IRISH PEERAGE (5th S. i. 144.) — The pro-
visions with regard to the Peerage of Ireland, in
the Irish Union Act, are : —
"1. That there shall be a creation for three extinc-
tions.
" 2. That if any of the three be claimed and allowed,
the next creation shall be for four extinctions.
" 3. That the peerage being reduced to one hundred, a
creation shall be for every extinction."
On 1 and 3 nothing need now be said ; but 2
(a case which has already happened twice) shows that
in the mind of the framers of the Act, extinction
simply meant the reduction by one of the
numbers of the peerage, or rather, to speak cate-
gorically, of the individuals holding peerages.
But one way in which this may happen has not
been provided for ; that is, the case in which one
peerage, without becoming extinct, goes to the
holder of another. This reduces the number of
peers by one, exactly as if an extinction took
place, and I contend that it should give the Crown
the same privilege which that would do.
This case has also happened twice — once in
1832, when the barony of Norwood went to the
Earl of Norbury ; and again in 1869, when the
earldom of Kingston went to Viscount Lorton.
And if these were taken into account, the result
would be that the Government would soon have
two Irish peerages to confer instead of one.
Practically, however, this makes little difference
at present ; but if the case happen again after the
peerage is reduced to one hundred, there will be a
great anomaly ; for while the Act distinctly pro-
vides that it shall be maintained at that number,
each time the case happens will reduce it by one,
and (at least on the present construction of the
Act) the Crown will not be able to put in practice
the provisions of the very Act itself !
CHARLES F. S. WARREN, M.A.
ORDERS BEFORE CULLODEN (5th S. i. 145.) — The
extract from the Bath Journal is an old canard,
long ago disproved. The contents of the supposed
orders are conclusive against its authenticity.
" The Highlanders to be in kilts " ! — as well might
the Duke of Cumberland give instructions that the
royal troops were to wear their breeches. Lord
George Murray's character, and that of the High-
land officers, and the well-known clemency of their
warfare in England and the Lowlands should have
prevented this revival of an old calumny. If MR.
OAKLEY believes in the genuineness of the " orders,"
he will be able to write a history after the style of
Lord Macaulay, who attached more value to broad-
sheets and to pamphlets than to authentic and con-
temporary evidence ; as if one were to write an
account of the late administration from election
squibs and candidates' speeches. F. B.
" DERBETH " (5th S. i. 148) is probably derived
from some local name. Bath Burn is the appella-
tion of a streamlet in Ayrshire, having its source
in the town of Beith. There is Loch Batha in
Perth ; and Bathgate (found Batket, Bathket,
Bathcat, Bathkat) in Linlithgow. One of the
meanings of Gaelic bath is the sea, and beith
(W. bedu) is a birch-tree ; daor is earth, land ;
and dearg is red. Dergan, in Argyle, has been
rendered " the red river " (dearg — amhuinn) ; and
Dearg beith, which might corrupt to Derbeth, would
translate "red birch." E. S. CHARNOCK.
Gray's Inn.
5'-" S. I. MAR. 14, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
219
OLD INDIAN DEED OF CONVEYANCE FOR OVER
SIXTEEN SQUARE MILES IN MASSACHUSETTS (5th
S. i. 166.) — In B. B. Thatcher's Indian Biography,
New York, 1832, may be found (vol. i. pp. 316-17)
the following : —
" Hubbard writes Passaconnawa ; Mr. Elliot, Papassa-
conaway ; Wood, in that most singular curiosity, NEW
ENGLAND'S PROSPECT, has pointed out Pissaconawa's
location on his map, by a cluster of marks representing
wigwams.
" The Sachem here mentioned, and commonly called
PASSACONAWAY, was generally known among the Indians
as the Great Sagamore of Pannuhog, or Penacook — that
being the name of a tribe who inhabited Concord (New
Hampshire), and the country for many miles above and
below, on Merrimac river Passaconaway is sup-
posed to have resided, occasionally, at what is now
Haverhill (Mass.), but he afterwards lived among the
Penacooks.
" He must have been quite advanced in life at the
date of the earliest English settlements on the coast, for
he is said to have died, about 1665, at the great age of
one hundred and twenty years, though that statement
indeed has an air of exaggeration. The first mention
of him is the celebrated Wheelright deed of 1629 — the
authenticity of which it is not necessary to discuss in
this connexion. In 1642 Passaquo and Saggahew, the
Sachems of Haverhill (Mass.), conveyed that township to
the original settlers, by deed sealed and signed, — the
consideration being three pounds ten shillings, and the
negotiation expressly ' wth ye consent of Passaconaway.' "*
I believe the work from which the above has been
taken is scarce in this country. It contains much
interesting information about the early settlers in
America, and claims to be " an historical account
of those Individuals who have been distinguished
among the North American Natives as Orators,
Warriors, Statesmen, and of other remarkable
Characters." B. E. N.
CHARLES I. : ACCOUNT FOR INTERMENT (5th S.
i. 145.)— The note from the Council Book of 1656
seems to require some further explanation. It
appears to indicate that the money expended on
the King's interment was not paid till then, but
had been advanced by Herbert.
Whitelock notes, under date 7th February,
1648 : — " The corps of the late King was removed
from St. James's to Windsor, to be interred in
St. George's Chappel there, and monies allowed for
it." The records of Parliament state that the
expenses of the burial were not to exceed 5001.
Herbert says that the Committee of Parliament
gave him an order, bearing date the 6th oi
February, 1648, authorizing him and Mr. Mild-
may to bury the King ; and in his letter to
Dugdale mentions that the Commissioners were
Colonel Harrison, Cornelius Holland, and others,
and that the order bore date the 7th of February.
A little further on, he speaks of the expenses, and
is very minute and explicit. He says : —
* " The original is still in the possession of a gentleman
in Haverhill. See Mirick's History of that town."
" For defray of the charge wherof 200£. was paid us
>y Captain Falconlerg the 8th of February, 1648, which
Sum falling short, we had 29£. 5s. more paid by Colonel
Harrison, the 20th day of February, The total amount-
.ng to 229J. 5s."
Finally, Herbert says, " the accompt being
examined and proved, I had a discharge " — that
is, monies of the state having been entrusted to
aim for the King's burial, he afterwards produced
vouchers to show how the money had been applied,
and his accounts were approved.
How, then, can this be reconciled with an appli-
cation to the Council for payment seven years
subsequently? EDWARD SOLLY.
SIR JOHN RERESBY'S " MEMOIRS " (5th S. i.
168.) — An old saying is familiar to me — " Red and
yellow, Tom Fool's colours." Doubtless the allu-
sion is to the glaring parti-coloured dress of the
Fool or Jester. JOHN ADDIS.
Rustington, Littlehampton, Sussex.
NOTES ON BOOKS, &c.
Letters addressed from London to Sir Joseph Williamson,
while Plenipotentiary at the Congress of Cologne,
in the Years 1673 and 1674. Edited by W. D. Christie,
C.B., Author of The Life of the First Earl ofShaftes-
bury. 2 vols. Printed for the Gumden Society.
LETTERS and Diaries are among the most interesting of
the publications of the Camden Society. The present
volumes yield to none of their predecessors in interest,
news, and amusement. Mr. Christie has edited them
with his well-known ability. The most appropriate ex-
tracts we can give from them are from letters by various
writers, to Sir Joseph, respecting the arrival in England
of Mary of Modena, the bride of the Duke of York.
They begin 3rd Oct., 1673 :—
3rd. Oct. — "Wee now begin to expect our new
Dutchesse ; orders are given to have a squadron of men
of warr ready to goe over to fetch her, and some say
that his Royall Highnesse will goe him selfe halfe seas
over, if not as farr as Calais, to meet her."
10th Oct.— "The Towne will have itt that the Dutchess
of Modena's mother is comeing with her daughter, and
that shee is but 30 yeares old, the Pope's niece, and one
that will worke wonders for the Papists ; so that they
will not approve at all of the marriage, and say my Lord
Peterborough was forbidd 3 times not to goe on, but that
he would doe it having private instructions from the
Duke. They say the French King goes himselfe to meete
the old Lady, and to instruct her how to worke his
interest here, and that this young Lady is not at all
handsome, and are so malicious as to name her severall
deformities : as croaked, redd haire, 13, and very little,
with severall such indecent discourses : and so great is
their feares, that they talke of desireing the King not to
consummate it here."
13th Oct.—" The 23. of this month it is said our new
Dutchesse is expected at Dover; she brings a great
Court with her, and is accompanied by her mother and
unkle ; the people say she brings a great many priests
with her, and that sticks very much in their stomacks."
17th Oct. — "Wee shall now very quickly have her Royall
Highnesse here ; many people are much troubled at the
great Court that comes with her, for her mother, unkle,
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[5th S. I. MAE. 14, '74.
and brother accompany her, which the Earl of Peter-
borough says he could not prevent, but that they will
not stay here above a week or ten days. The portion is
400 thousand crownes, 100 thousand to be paid in hand,
and the rest as shall be appointed by the Most Christian
King, to whom the matter is referred ; the Earl of Peter-
borough gives her Highnesse a great character of faire,
pretty, well shaped, good humoured, &c. so that his
letters have begott here a great esteem of her, that is at
Court, but the generality of people, as they never are, so
cannot now be pleased, and that for two reasons, the one
that she is a Roman Catholic, and then that the match
is made by the French ; and it is in the mouth of every
ordinary person, that they wonder the Duke will be
obliged to the French King for his wife's portion."
3rd Nov. — " On Wednesday last her Royall Highnesse
left Paris, and on Wednesday next will be at Calais. On
Saturday the Countesse of Peterborough, with a traine of
above 20 coaches and the Duke's troop of Life Guards
.attending, went out of towne towards Dover; and on
Thursday the Duke will follow himselfe with his Court."
3rd Nov. — " This afternoone the House attended his
Majestic with their address and reasons to prevent the
•consummating of the mariage with the Dutches of
Modena."
5th Nov.' — " Great preparations of fine clothes and
thinges are makeing to receive the Dutchess [of Modena],
who, should shee arrive to-night, that madnes has a
lycence, shee would certainely bee mar'tyr'd, for the
•comon people here and even those of quallyty in the
•country beleeve shee is the Pope's eldest daughter ! "
17th Nov. — "Last night arrived here Monsieur de
Puis brother, who came out with her Royall Highnesse
from Paris on Tuesday last and left Her Highnesse the
next day on her journey to Calais, where it is supposed
she may arrive to-morrow ; his Royall Highnesse goes
hence on Wednesday morning early for Dover to meet
her. Many people had hoped still that some accident or
another would have happened which might have hindered
the consommation of this marriage, which is carried on
so much against the likeing of the whole nation."
21st Nov. — " This day her Royall Highnesse is ex-
pected at Dover, where the Duke has been ever since
Wednesday last, haveing parted from hence that morne-
ing early. It is possible they may lye togeather this
night at Canterbury, where the Bishop of Oxford is to
marry them. It has been reported here that his Royall
Highnesse will then receive the holy sacrament from the
hands of the said bishop ; but it is feared it is onely a
report."
24th Nov. — " On Friday last, in the afternoone, her
Royall Highnesse arrived at Dover from Calais, and about
five in the evening the Bishop of Oxford declared the
marriage in the same forme as was practised by the
Archbishop of Canterbury at the marriage of his
Majesty. On Wednesday their Royall Highnesses will
foe here in towne, and the King entertains them at
dinner ; they come up by water, and the King will meet
them at Gravesend. In the mean time people cannot
forbear makeing reflections ; but the soberer sort wish
that much more happinesse and comfort may attend them
than the present disposition of the nation will lett us
hope for. It is hardly credible how strangely jealous
people are of popery, and doubtless without any reason,
but yet it will be no easy thing to convince them of their
mistake."
Whitehall, 28th Nov. — " Her Royall Highnesse arrived
here on Wednesday last about noone, all the principall
of the nobility haveing attended the King to goe and
meet her. She landed at the Privy Stairs without any
sollemnity, and so went directly up to the Queen, who
received her in her withdrawing roome, and, after a
quarter of an hour's stay there, went to Sl James, the
King leading the young Dutchesse, and the Duke her
mother. As to her person, I hardly dare venture to make
a description ; yet some indifferent things I may presume
to tell your Excy. She is tall and slender, of a pale com-
plexion and browne haire, which all putt togeather
people judge variously off. Some cry her up for a very
fine weoman, and generally all say she will be a fine
weoman when she is somewhat more spread ; and in the
mean time praise her witL Yesterday she dined in
publick at S' James, her mother setting at the table with
her, which our nobility stomacking very highly, the
Dutchesse has declared that she will not dine in publick
any more, while her mother continues here ; who when
she was with the Queen had likewise a seat given her,
which severall ladyes took so ill that, as I am told, they
went out of the withdrawing roome."
18th Dec. — " This night the Dutchesse came again to
court, and her mother this day to see the King touch in
the banquetting-house. It was hoped her sweete carriage
would have abated her enemyes, but there is again most
horrid ill verses made of all the court, and dispersed
about to the great scandall of the officers, that seeke noe
wages to oppress itt (sic)."
The above forms but a small part of illustrations of
life in England two centuries ago.
EMMA ISOLA (5th S. i. 61.)— E. V. kindly sends the
subjoined supplement to the above note : — " The father of
this lady was Charles Isola, of Emmanuel College, Cam-
bridge, B.A. 1796, M.A. 1799. He was elected one of
the Esquire Bedells of the University in 1797, and died
in 1814, leaving other children besides Emma, but
scantily provided for, who were well known to the
writer of this note."
C. F. S. WARREN, M.A., sends the following anagram
as an addition to the one in the last number of " N. & Q.":
— " Arthur Orton," " Nor art thou R."
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LONDON, SATURDAY, MARCH 21, 1874.
CONTENTS.— N° 12.
NOTES :— Knox's " History of the Reformation "— Ultra-Cen-
tenarianism, No. 5, 221— The Life and Opinions of Padre
Sarpi, also known as Padre Paolo, of Venice, 223 — Our
Clever Things— Scarlett, 225— The Relationships of Life
among the Hindus — Seats in Churches — Epitaphs Copied
from an Old Number of the "St. James's Chronicle" — A
Proper Dual— Epigrams— Maiden Assizes, 226.
QUERIES : — Lucia Visconti, Countess of Kent— Glebnspensky
— Lowndes— The Khasias — Arms of Milgate— Bibliography —
Window Gardening — Bardolf of Wirmegay— St. George and
the Dragon, 227— Mr. Lorraine Smith— Spy Wednesday—
"Honest Will. Crouch "—King John's Palace or Tower —
Berkeley of Beverston— " Sele " : "Wham" — "Put to Buck,"
228.
REPLIES :— On the Elective and Deposing Power of Parlia-
ment, 229— Bere Regis Church — Welsh Language, 231 —
Wayneclowtes : Plogh Clowtes, 232 — Bezique or B6sique—
"Blodius" — Small Tables— "We may live," &c. — Hugh
Skeys— "Ne Sutor," &c. — " Simpson "—Ancestry of George
Fox, 233 — Lord's Prayer, Royal and Republican— " The
Crown of a Herald King of Arms" — "All Lombard Street
to a China Orange" — Mortimers, Lords of Wigmore — Sir
Isaac Newton — " Address to the Stars " — Owen Glendower—
Palace of Alcina, 234— "Through life's road," &c.— The
Waterloo and Peninsular Medals— Royal Heads on Bells-
Burns at Brownhill Inn, 235— Sir David Lyndsay— Birds of
111 Omen — Richard West, Chancellor of Ireland — " So
scented the Grim Feature "—"The Way Out," 236— Women
in Church— Bibliography of Utopias— " Like " as a Con-
junction— King of Arms v. King at Arms— Dr. Isaac Barrow,
Master of Trinity— Rev. E. Gee—" Let him never," <fec. —
Centaury, 237 — Charles Owen of Warrington— Innocents'
Day : Muffled Peals, 238.
Notes on Books, &c.
KNOX'S "HISTORY OF THE REFORMATION."
Probably no work in the language contains more
racy, vigorous, dramatic writing than this book of
Knox, flavoured with some coarseness here and
there, which is to be attributed, perhaps, as much
to the spirit of the age as to the writer. I have
noted some passages of quaint and forcible ex-
pression ; some of them noteworthy on other
grounds. I quote the edition of Edinburgh, folio,
1732 : — " Our Bischopis follow Pylatt quho bothe
did condempe, and alsowesche his Handis."— P. 2.
The late Emperor of the French was taunted, in
almost identical language, with this following of
Pilate in the case of the Pope a few years ago, by
one of the French bishops (Dupanloup ?): —
" The said Freir Alexander . . . without Delay re-
turned to St. Androiss, caussit immediatelie to jow the
jBell^and to give significationne that he wald preiche." —
"Stoute Oliver was tane without Straik. fleing full
manfullie."—P. 30.
"And sa, in Dispyte of the Cardinal and his subornit
Factioun, was he (the Earl of Arran) declairit Governour,
and with Publict Proclamatioun so denuncit to the
Pepill." — P. 32.
" For the Pairt of the Clergi, Hay, Dean of Restalrig.
and certane auld Bosses with him."— P. 34.
"The Bischope preichit to his Jackmen and to sum
auld Bosses of the Toun."— P. 44.
Jamieson (Scot. Diet.) considers bosses here to
be taken in the sense of casks, seasoned topers ;
but there seems no reason why the word should not
be understood in the sense in which our American
cousins still use it. With them it is a cant word
for dignitaries or masters : —
" Mony befoir had promeisit, hot at the Point it (the
Cardinal's banner) was left sa bair that with schame it
was scholte up in the Pocke agane." — P. 42.
"And so recytting alsmony Titills of his unworthy
Honours, as wald have laiddin a schip, much soner ane
Ass."— P. 54.
This seems to be a complimentary allusion to
Cardinal Bethune : —
" The Bischope of Brichin, blind of ane Eye in the
Bodie, lot ofboihe in the saull." — P. 86.
Poor Brechin ! —
" We beseik you that ye one no wayis melt nor assent
to tha£ ungodlie Interpryis." — P. 170.
Mell, Fr. se meler. — Like other Scotish books of
that period, this work is full of French words taken
over bodily into the Scotish language : — Esperance,
malleiore, meubles, bruit, ambassade, impeach (em-
2)&cher), meaning to prevent, are among those I
have noted from Knox. The Complaynt of Scot-
land and Sir David Lyndesay's works occur to me
as conspicuous instances of this usage. In the
following example Knox uses a gerundive, formed
from reculer by the inflection of the word, showing
its complete adoption : —
" Bot I can sie nothing bot sick a reculing from Christ
Jesus, as the man that first and most spedily flyeth from
Christ's Ensenzie haldeth himself most happy." — P. 332.
" Our souldiours culd be scairsly dung out of the
Toun" (to meet the enemy). — P. 191.
" Has sche not inforced thame to tak Bailyes of hir
Apointment, and sum of theme so meet for their office
in this trublesum tyme, as a Souter is to steir a schip in,
a stormie Day." — P. 177.
I conclude with a query. Is this class of
Bailyes extinct 1 E. B. S.
Glasgow.
ULTRA-CENTENARIANISM.— No. 5.
PHCEBE HESSEL.
Under the erroneous impression — how or whence
derived, I know not— that the account of Phosbe
Hessel to be found in the Circulator was to the
same effect as that to be found in Hone's Year-
Book, I did not take so much trouble as I ought
to surmount the difficulty I encountered in my
effort to get sight of the former notice of this
Brighton Centenarian. The reader will readily
imagine my annoyance when I found myself con-
victed of a palpable oversight by the following
letter from ME. FOWLEE : —
" Neither Mr. Erredge nor Mr. Alderman Martin
gives any facts of the earlier days of the heroine in
their respective works on Brighton.
" The following account may help to remove one
of the difficulties mentioned by MR. THOMS. It
222
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5th S. I. MAR. 21, '74.
appeared, together with a full-length portrait of
Phoebe, ' sketched from the life at Bognor, June
9th, 1820,' in a periodical, published in 1825,
called The Circulator, a book partaking of the
nature and character of Hone's Every Day or Year
Books. In all probability, as the sketch was from
the life, these ' missing links ' were furnished by
the heroine herself : —
" ' The father of Phoebe Hessel was a drummer in the
King's service ; he took Phoebe with him to Flanders at
an early age, where, her mother dying, the father dis-
guised the child as a boy and taught her the fife, in the
practice of which she acquired a great proficiency, so as
to be admitted into the regiment, where, after a length
of time (for what reason is not stated), she became of
the ranks, and in battle received a wound, in dressing of
which the surgeon discovered her sex, and she was inva-
lided on a small pension.'
" Apropos of the foregoing account, Phoebe is re-
presented in the sketch with a pocket hanging at her
side, from which a fife protrudes. She has a bundle
of wind-falls under her right arm, and her left rests
on a T-shaped stick.
" MR. THOMS writes, ' Erredge appears to have
derived the basis of his notice from the account of
Phoebe given by Hone in his Year-Book.' Erredge
himself, however, informs us, at p. 181, that he ' has
many a time and oft heard the old female warrior
tell of her deeds of arms,' and again, at p. 177, he
tells ' of the first incident of her remarkable career
as related by herself to him. He devotes four
pages (8vo.) to Phoebe, only one of which is the
extract from Hone ; Martin does the same. If it
had been asserted that Alderman Martin had de-
rived the basis, not only of his notice of Phoebe,
but of his book in its entirety from Erredge, it
would have been correct. The two books are before
me, and the passage quoted as ' Alderman Martin's
account ' is in reality Erredge's ! Moreover, Mr.
Martin himself, in a foot-note to the title of his
chapter on ' Phoebe Hessel,' says, ' Quoted from
Erredge's History of Brighton, with additions.' (?)
There is not a single remark in Mr. Martin's
account that is not to be found in Erredge's, and
the only addition that I can find is that in 1871
the worthy alderman, on Mr. Blaker's behalf, pre-
sented her walking-stick to the Brighton Museum !
" Carter, in his Curiosities of War, 1871, p. 88,
says that the 5th Kegiment was not present at Fon-
tenoy, and suggests that the substitution of 5 for 3
was an error of reading on the part of the stone-
cutter. A draft of the 5th may possibly have been
present, and an officer of that regiment, in his forth-
coming History of the 5th Foot (incorporating a
notice of Phoebe), may satisfactorily prove it to
have been so. Nous verrons.
" Not only did Phoebe Hessel ' disarm all sus-
picion as to her sex,' but Hannah Snell, who was,
in turn, soldier, marine, and sailor ; Christiania
Davis, who served in the ' Inniskilling Dragoons,'
arid several other Amazons, have done the like.
" The question, ' If Golding was serving in the
2nd Foot, why did she enlist into the 5th V pre-
sents no difficulty to a military reader : it is of
frequent occurrence. An Irishman in Connemara
wishes to join his brother in the 40th, which is on
service in India, but its head-quarters are at Can-
terbury. Pat has not the money or inclination to
go there, but hearing that the 39th, quartered in
Limerick, are under orders for India, he enlists
into that regiment, and, on arriving, say, at Cal-
cutta, he finds that his brother is at Peshawur.
Pat obtains, without difficulty, papers transferring
him to the 40th, and his object is attained !
" Permit me to point out an error which, if not
now corrected, may be perpetuated. George IV.
did not ' put up the stone to her memory,' but it
was erected by Mr. Hyam Lewis, a well-known
jeweller of Brighton ; this fact is noted by Messrs.
Erredge and Martin. I append a copy of the
register of Phoebe's burial : —
"'Page 277.
:' ' Burials in the Parish of Brightelmston, in the County
of Sussex/ in the year 1821.
Name.
Abode.
When
buried.
Age.
By whom the
ceremony was
performed.
Phoebe
AVoburn
Deer.
108
R. J. Carr,
Hessell
Place.
16.
yrs.
Vicar.
(sic).
" ' \* The above is a faithful Extract from the Register
of the Parish aforesaid.
" 'As witness my hand this 22nd day of September, 1873,
" ' J. J. HANNAH, Curate of the aforesaid Parish.'
"JNO. A. FOWLER.
" 55, London Road, Brighton."
I should have placed this letter at once before the
readers of " N. & Q." but that I was in daily hopes
that some of the inquiries which I had set on foot
with the view of ascertaining what was the reputed
age of the old woman at the time of her first re-
ceiving parochial relief from the parish of Brighton,,
and the place and date of her marriage with Hessel,
might have elicited some materials calculated to-
clear up the mystery in which her story is involved.
I have to thank Mr. Alderman Martin and MR.
FOWLEK (the latter of whom kindly endeavoured
to procure it through one of the local papers) for
their assistance in this matter. But I have waited
in vain ; and I regret to add, that two letters which
I addressed to gentlemen whom I believed to be in
a position to assist me with reliable information,
either never reached them or reached them at a
time when it was not in their power to answer them.
In printing now (in MR. FOWLER'S communica-
tion) the account Phoebe gave of herself at Bognorr
I shall content myself with pointing out how en-
tirely it is at variance with that which she gave to
Mr. Hone's correspondent, a variance which neces-
5th S. I. MAR. 21, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
223
sarily suggests grave doubts whether there wai
any more foundation for either of them than
for the unproved 108 years, on the strength o
which she succeeded in awakening the deep sym-
pathy of the good people of Brighton. I do thi
because this renewal of the question of Phcebe's
age may call forth some further light on her his-
tory ; and I want all the facts that can be ascer-
tained clearly stated, before I sum it up with the
assistance of the information which I am in posses-
sion of respecting her first husband. One of her
statements is utterly without foundation. She was
not " invalided on a small pension."
WILLIAM J. THOMS.
40, St. George's Square, S.W.
THE LIFE AND OPINIONS OF PADRE SARPI
ALSO KNOWN AS PADRE PAOLO, OF VENICE.
Continued from page 185.
In 1605 Cardinal Camillo Borghese, of Sienna,
was elected Pope, and took the name of Paul V.
Almost immediately afterwards a violent dispute
arose between the Court of Eome and the Venetian
Republic. The causes of quarrel were these, as
stated by a contemporary historian* : —
" In the year 1603 the Councell of the Preguays at
Venice decreed, that no Venetian citizen, of what^degree
or quality soever, should in the Citty, without the Senate's
•consent, build any new Church, Hospitall, or Monastery.
But the Venetian Clergie, notwithstanding the Senate's
decree, did dayly more and more augment their revenues
and possessions as well within the Citty as abroad : the
Senate for reducing their whole state to one conformable
custome, had before (as hath been said) divulged their
Jaw over all their dominions, and added thereunto a pro-
hibition, that none within their Citty or Signory, under
-what coullor soever, should sell, give, or in any sort
alienate lands to the Clergie without the Senate's per-
mission, which should not be granted, but with the same
solemnities usuall at the alienation of the publick revenue,
and all alienations made otherwise to bee declared voide,
the lands confiscate, and notaries punished. The Pope
at the beginning of his Papacie, having notice of this
Jaw, did duly examine it, and would in no sort approove
it : but toward the end of October the same yeare (1605),
•complained thereof to the Venetian Ambassador, at the
time of publick audience, saying, That whilest the See
of Rome was vacant the Venetians had made a lawe,
which prohibited the Clergie to purchase lands ; adding
(although it were made upon important occasion, and by'
vertue of a former decree) yet the Cannons disanulled
them both ; therefore his pleasure was to have them re-
voked, injonyning the Ambassador, in his name, to signifie
as much to the Signori."
Another complaint against the Venetians was
*' about the detaining a Shannon of Vincenza, and
the Abbot of Nerveze, both of them accused of
notorious crimes." The Pope was resolved to have
these t\vo laws revoked, and the prisoners delivered
to his Nuncio residing at Venice. At that time
the Doge Grimani died, and Leonardo Donate was
* W. Shute's Translation of De Fougasse's History of
Venice. London, 1612.
elected. On the 28th January, 1606, the Senate
informed the Pope that they could not find any-
thing in the laws " but what might be decreed by
a Soveraigne Prince." The Pope, on receiving this
reply, excommunicated the Venetians. The above-
named author then says: —
" The Prince and Senate having intelligence what was
done at Rome, made two declarations, the one directed to
all the clergy of their dominions, and the other to the
magistrates and officers of the State, to stop and restraine
all disorders that might arise : whereupon all that yeere
divers books were written on both sides, some condemning
the Venetians, others the Pope, every man according to
his owne passion."
Matters were in this position when the Venetian
Republic determined to add to the jurists who
acted as the advisers of the Senate a theologian
and canonist, and Sarpi was chosen. He was found
so able that, as the other jurists died off, only one
was replaced ; so that, after a certain time, Sarpi,
who retained his appointment for seventeen years,
until his death, was almost the sole adviser of the
Senate on points of theology and law in general.
His views upon the relative positions of the Pope
and other princes become, therefore, exceedingly
interesting at this. moment; and I will now en-
deavour to translate, as nearly as possible, word for
word, what his anonymous biographer gives as
Sarpi's opinions, and the advice he gave. The
biographer says : —
" A notable inconvenience arising from the imprudence
of the ecclesiastical partisans of 1606 was, that the cause
being purely and merely temporal, and a question of
jurisdiction, they endeavoured by every artifice to repre-
sent it as a point of Religion, esteeming that altogether
to their advantage, not seeing that it could be defended
in any other manner, and yet insinuating to Courts and
Nations that it was defensible. In this they passed the
right line of truth and conscience, that they published by
word of mouth, in the pulpits, and in print, that in Venice
they wished to change religion, having begun, by declining
obedience to the Roman Pontiff, with open schism. That
this course should have been taken by a herd of hungry
libellers, ambitious persons, and others who were ignorant
of former events, will not cause astonishment ; but that
which is suprising is, that most learned and zealous Car-
dinals should have taken part in suclra dance — Bellarmino,
Baronius, Colonna — who ought to have known what injury
such a report, although false, when most widely spread,
might bring to Ecclesiastics.
" In Aristocracies, equality, owing to human nature, is
most unequal as regards the ability of the chief men in a
State, there never being any public body (collegio) or
assembly, however select, in which there are no dregs ;
otherwise Aristocracies would consist of so many Kings ;
and there is a portion of the vulgar even among the chief
men. Therefore, although among all the public bodies
ind Councils of Venice there was a remarkable unanimity
in the defence of her liberty, nevertheless there were in
all of them men of more eminent worth, who acted as
guides to the others. Comparisons are not admissible in
Hepublics, it is therefore not advisible to name any per-
sons in particular. But speaking generally, it was by the
jrace and providence of God that the most resolute and
active in the common defence were also the greatest, not
only by nobility, honours, experience, ability and activity,
>ut also by piety and religion ; some of whom are still
NOTES AND QTJEEIES.
(5th S. I. MAR. 21, 74.
alive, most eminent Senators, and known to all for purity
and zeal for the holy religion; the others, with most
religious ends, have passed into the Glory of the Blessed.
The above named Ecclesiastics hurled their slanderous
darts particularly at these, as the most conspicuous and
high; taxing them with being innovators in religion,
charging them with having a design of making the Re-
public revolt to the religion of the Protestants. The
Ultramontanes,* who were most attentive to the effects
and end of such a famous controversy, reading with the
greatest curiosity that which was published, believing
that to be true which came from the Ecclesiastics, pub-
lished with so much perseverance, that the most Serene
Republic declined obedience to the Pope and would be
ready to change religion, as the principal persons in the
Government had such a design. And the most zealous
among them, enticed by the hope of extending their
religion, having observed that on all the occasions on
which the Roman Church had undertaken to excommu-
nicate Princes and interdict States some revolt had fol-
lowed from it, exerted themselves eagerly to help that,
with the devouring hope of change, and the Princes did
not fail to obtain a clear understanding with the Re-
public, which, the King of Spain having declared him-
self protector of the ecclesiastical party, for reasons of
good government, was under the necessity of listening to
all, uniting itself with those who had common interests ;
and private Doctors did not fail to write and print many
things, which, by the activity displayed in these sources
of confusion, it was not possible to forbid, as they were
not even seen in Venice. The object of them was to give
colour to the change of which the Ecclesiastics had
spread the report. The point in all was to declare that
the Pope exercised an intolerable tyranny over the souls
and the bodies of those who were in communion with
him; the great happiness which those States enjoyed
that had thrown off obedience ; that at least such a large
amount of property, left by pious Christians for pious
works, was either employed or enjoyed by natives of the
country for the common benefit ; whereas in the States
adhering to the Popedom, was to be seen an abominable
usurpation, venality, and public robbery, and that which
was more important, conferred upon seditious persons
and enemies of the States themselves, the Pontifical par-
tisans having arrived at the extreme point (questa quinta
essentia) of supporting themselves by the whole of a
dreadful faction paid out of the purses of those States
upon which they conspired to bring every cause of ruin.
Their Religion (that of the Protestants) was the same
contained in the Holy Scriptures, in the general Councils,
in the Holy Fathers of the first five centuries, and agreed
with the Roman Church itself in the old Articles of
Faith. They disagree only in those invented by her (the
Church of Rome), which who ever examine them one by
one will find do nothing towards the Glory of God, but
only towards the acquisition of worldly riches, reputation
and jurisdiction for the ecclesiastical order. They (the
Protestants) insinuated that the Roman Religion had
been insensibly bastardized, and everything reduced to
Religion which served the interests of the (Roman)
Court. They (the Protestants) collected all the intoler-
able burdens placed upon Princes, who at present make
heavy and continual complaints of them. They told the
inhabitants of the most Serene Republic (Venice) that,
although adjoining Turkey for more than 800 miles, the
House of Austria for nearly as great a tract of country,
and the Pope only, it might be said, for a few miles of
coast and sand, she had nevertheless more trouble, from
that part and more disturbances about jurisdiction in a
* For the Italian, Ultramontanes are those who live
north of Italy.
month, than from all the remainder in ten years ; besides
those which were daily. Moreover, that the Nuncios
treated with Princes so imperiously and insolently, as if
they were slaves — not even subjects, carrying always in
front the head of Medusa, the pretext of Religion, to
frighten the timid, and that they (the Venetians) did not
penetrate the depth of its (the Court of Rome) secrets
(and that the true object was the discovery of the secrets
of the Popedom), the most politic that had ever existed
in the world. This evil, although all the weight of it was
occasioned by the Ecclesiastics themselves, was by them
attributed, as has been said, to those most eminent sub-
jects (Venetians), the principal maintainers of the public
cause ; but always our Padre (Sarpi) was the principal.
He (if the courtiers be believed) it was who excited the
Protestants to cause books to be issued, which would
enlighten nations ; he who showed those great people
that changes in Religion were necessary, because the
Pontiffs had become such that they wished the servitude
of Italy.
" But if ever there was a thing which was false and
calumnious, this is such. And although the Padre
(Sarpi) cared little for defamation by the persons named,
yet, as regarded the manifesting his opinions about the
arrangements to be immediately made with the above
named Senators, he advised and spoke, on every occasion,
with inestimable vehemence and zeal ; and in writing, in
innumerable opinions as counsel, he has always taught
and inculcated that not only by reason, truth, and by
conscience, but also by necessity and reasons of good
government, ought all the faithful, but more than all the
Prince, to watch over the maintenance and preservation
of Religion. Because, as God has constituted Princes his
Lieutenants in the States among which the Holy Churck
is placed, that dignity is conferred upon them, that they
are made the protectors, defenders, and conservators, and
nurses of the Holy Church, as the Holy Scriptures speak
of them ; which duty the most honourable of them will
never fulfil, except by a continual and vigilant care of
religious matters. That God by his singular grace has
placed us (the Venetians) in the Church Catholic,
Apostolic, Roman, holy and good. Moreover, that this
should be recognized as a divine favour, and render us
(the Venetians) continually grateful ; no more grave
misfortune could happen to us (the Venetians) by giving
way to anger than to separate from it. And if there are
abuses in it that is not the fault of Religion, true in
itself and holy, but of him who abuses it. And even if
that were true nor could be denied, not for that ought
any one to allow himself to be shaken in his firm belief j
nor the Prince also permit changes and alterations to be
spoken of ; because perfection and entire purity is the
end to which the believer and the Holy Church itself
tend, not the road along which it labours. The churches
founded by the Apostles themselves, and where they
preached and resided, were not exempt from imperfec-
tion; of which the Epistle to the Galatians gives clear
evidence, but still more the Corinthians. That as to
Charity, some adhere to Peter and some to Paul, others
to Apollo, with schism, and manifest division of Christ ;
as to Dogma, there were who denied the Resurrection ;
as to Concord, they dragged one another before the
Tribunals of the unbelievers ; as to manners, there was
fornication, unheard of even among Idolaters ; as to
rites, the Supper of the Lord was converted into banquets,
where seme were drunk, others ravenous ; and yet the
Apostle recognized it as a true Church and body of
Christ. How much more ought we (the Venetians) to
stand firm in the Church, in which God by a singular
favour has placed us, although in the government of it
there might be imperfections and abuses which might
become burthens, even intolerable ones ! But if these
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
225
evils grow now, it is the fault of the Princes themselves,
who not caring for the divine precept, which obliges
them strongly to have a knowledge of his most holy
laws and of Religion, have totally neglected this duty, as
if Religion were a thing which did not affect them, and
as if they might not have to render account to God,
either for themselves or for their subjects, for the neglect
of the care, examination, and defence of it, — contrary to
the precepts of the Holy Scripture, the doctrine of the
Holy Councils and Fathers, and the custom of pious
Princes, — contenting themselves with a Religion, without
knowing what it is, nor how it ought to be preserved
free from corruption, and tolerating for interests,
flatteries, and convenience the deceiving of the people
with continual alterations, under form of devotion and
piety; with a daily licence not only to Churchmen,
but to all sorts of persons, to invent new rites for
grandeur or gain, without considering that in the
end every rite carries with itself its belief, and thus
Religion is altered and accommodates itself to the
advancement of him who handles it ; and these com-
mon alterations being viewed favourably, not the
less have the Princes tolerated them; which also
their successors have agreed even to approve, owing to
the authority assumed by time. A thing which happens
in all mundane affairs, but most in religion in which the
vulgar are the inventors of superstition. The Pope
besides being the head of religion is also a Prince, and
for more than the last 500 years has aspired to the mon-
archy of Italy at least, to which he so nearly attained.
And what marvel if he used every means to extend his
jurisdiction? The Roman Pontiff has three great
charges, that of religion, that of ecclesiastical matters,
and that of the temporal affairs of his States. The not
distinguishing him from Princes is the source whence
every ill is derived. There are three sorts of Canons, of
spiritual things, of temporal, and of mixed. Of the
first, the care belongs to the Ecclesiastics. In the second
he (the Pope) cannot intermeddle, except in his temporal
States. Of the third, it is as much the duty of the
Prince to occupy himself as of the Ecclesiastics, if not
more. In all its existence there had never happened to
the most Serene Dominion (Venice) any contest, not
even the smallest iota, on the first of these heads, be-
cause the Republic is born Catholic, and kept always
such. All the disturbance arises under the second head,
because the Court (of Rome) makes it serve to the in-
crease of its jurisdiction and of the Temporal Dominion.
From the third those Princes are too ignorant who allow
themselves to be excluded. And if the Court (of B.ome)
now-a-days more than ever makes every effort to cause
to be written and to pass into belief the exclusion, why
do not the Princes, who have in their favour the most
clear sentences of the New and the Old Testament, the
doctrine of the Councils, and the Holy Fathers, and the
custom of every time, defend themselves from it ] If
when the Nuncios and Ecclesiastics come to them always
masked with Religion and the Sacred Canons, abusing
the second and third by the first (he alludes to things
spiritual, temporal, and mixed), if those who govern, in-
structed according to the Divine precept, knew which
were the Canons that have to do with Faith, which the
Republic observes inviolably and venerates, and those
which have reference to things ecclesiastical, matters of
discipline and administration of property, and secular
negociations, and which do not belong to a point of
Faith or Religion, but to the greatness of the Court,
and they knew (the Princes) and would maintain in
these the power that God has given to Princes, they
would take entirely away the mask and would make
them (the Nuncios and Ecclesiastics) blush to think
they could abuse thus strangely the goodness or sim-
plicity of others, and they (the Princes) would recover
from the continual injury that is done them ; as if they
could offend Religion in defending that power which
God has conceded to them, and the jurisdiction which
the Prince cannot permit to be diminished without sin.
From this his (Sarpi's) pious opinion we may argue the
supreme reverence with which in all consultations and in
his writings he had always venerated the Apostolic See
and the supreme Pontiff ; not failing for that to openly
expound the truth in that which concerned the legitimate
power that God has given to Princes. They complain
without reason, those who would have Ecclesiastics
without affections. Erunt vitia donee homines. The
ministers of Princes seek the advantage of their Lords.
If the Ecclesiastics make use for that of pretexts of
Religion, the others suffer from themselves if they do not
instruct themselves to be able with the truth in hand to
keep them (the Ecclesiastics) to the point, and to show
them that they (the ministers) have no less zeal for
religion than those (the Ecclesiastics) ; not to go further.
This and other discourses he (Sarpi) made, &c."
EALPH N. JAMES, F.R.H.S.
(To be concluded in our next number.)
OUR CLEVER THINGS.— "N. & Q." has fre-
quently pointed out parallel passages and apparent
plagiarisms, but I have never seen a collection of
the excuses made by the perpetrators thereof.
Moliere said, " Je reprends mon bien ou je le
trouve." Mr. Charles Reade recently claimed the
right of the literary artist to " set jewels " even
though the gems were the property of another.
In the preface to the Heiress by Burgoyne (who
was not a plagiarist) is quoted this paragraph from
the preface to the Rivals of Sheridan (who was a
plagiarist) —
'* Faded ideas float in the fancy like half-forgotten
dreams, and the imagination in its fullest enjoyments
becomes suspicious of its offspring, and doubts whether
it has created or adopted."
In Lloyd's prologue to Column's Jealous Wife,
it is said of the author of the comedy —
" Books too he read, nor blush'd to use their store ;
He does but what his betters did before.
Shakspere has done it, and the Grecian stage
Caught truth of character from Homer's page."
Colman, however, honestly acknowledges in the
preface his indebtedness to Tom Jones and the
Spectator.
Ben Jonson, copied by Dumas pere, declared
that he did not steal, he conquered. It is perhaps
curious to note that the younger Dumas relies
solely upon himself and his own experience, while
his father plundered right royally.
J. BRANDER MATTHEWS.
Lotos Club, New York.
SCARLETT.— On glancing over Burke's Peerage
and Baronetage lately, my eye fell on the pedigree
of this family, in which I observed one or two
slight inaccuracies. I find that Benjamin Scarlett's
"eldest son, Francis, was styled Captain, and
served as member for St. Andrew's parish in the
first Legislative Assembly of Jamaica."
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5th S. I. MAR. 21, 74.
1. There is a good reason for his having been
styled " Captain," for it is expressly stated in the
local registers that he was the master of a ship
trading between London and Jamaica.
2. It is incorrect to say that Captain Scarlett
was a member of the first Legislative (General) *
Assembly of Jamaica, which was constituted as
early as 1663, and of this he certainly was not a
member, for the names of its members are well
known, and amongst them that of Scarlett does not
appear, nor does the latter appear in the list of
members of the first Legislative Council in 1671.
SP.
THE RELATIONSHIPS OF LIFE AMONG THE
HINDUS. — These we find very clearly defined, and
in Marathi, the modern language of Western India,
and in Sanskrit, its parent, the following words
are used : —
Sanskrit.
Pitrivya
Pitrivyaputtra
Pitrivyaputtri
Pitrushvasa
Pitrushvasiya
Pitrushvasiya
Matula
Matulaputtra
Matulaputtri
Matrishvasa
Father's brother
Father's brother's son
Father's brother's daughter
Father's sister
Father's sister's son
Father's sister's daughter
Mother's brother
Mother's brother's son
Mother's brother's daughter
Mother's sister
Mother's sister's son
Mother's sister's daughter
Matrishvashriya
Matrishvashriya
Bombay.
Marathi.
Chirlata
Chirlatabhau
Chirlatabahin
Ata
Atebhau
Atebahin
Mama
Mam ebb uu
Mamebahin
Ma wash!
. Mausabhau
. Mausabahin
FlNELLA.
SEATS IN CHURCHES. — At Lydd, in Kent, there
are circular stone seats round the bases of the
nave-pillars. At Walton in Gordano Early De-
corated benches remain. The following extract is
of later date : —
" Walter Sheryngton desired to be buried in the
Walden Chapelle, within the Priorie of S. Bartilmeu,
Smitbfield, on the north side of the auter in a toinbe of
marbil there, to be made adjoyning to the wale on the
north side aforesaide, of the height of two Paries (sic)
fete for men to knele and lene upon the same tumbe forto
here masse at the said auter 1487." (Reg. Stafford, folio,
1706.)
MACKENZIE E. C. WALCOTT.
EPITAPHS COPIED FROM AN OLD NUMBER OF
THE " ST. JAMES'S CHRONICLE."—
" Reader, I 've left this world, in which
I had a world to do ;
Sweating and fretting to be rich,
Just such a fool as you."
" There is no peace
Till we decease ;
Such plagues as you
Oft made me rue
That I was born
To live in scorn ;
But you '11 repent,
So I'm content."
Ryde. S. K
* It was a "representative Assembly," designated
"General Assembly." The Upper House was styled
Legislative Council, &c.
A PROPER DUAL.— My friend Jno. Fothergill
tells me that Marsh, in his book edited by Smith,
and entitled Student's Manual of the English
Language, distinguishes both for our one proper
dual, namely, a dual through its form, and not else.*
To turn this over a little, the Anglo-Saxon gives
us bd <M=both they. With Chaucer, Knightes
Tale, v. 883—
" For loth-e we have served to be slayn,"
— the two elements still distinctly speaking, as the
final vowel tells in the measure.
I do not know whether it may have been re-
marked that we here have exactly the Greek
a/j.-(j)(j}, and the Latin am-bo, in the form and in
the sense. • . • EREM.
EPIGRAMS. — Can you find room in " N. & Q."
for the following imitations from the Greek, and
so oblige an old correspondent 1
DRINKING CDPID.
(From, the Greek of Julian the Prefect.)
Once, wreathing a garland of roses in slumber, I saw Love
recline,
And taking him up by the pinions, I dropped the boy into
the wine.
Then seizing the goblet, I drank him : but ever since then,
in all weathers,
He keeps up his sports in my bosom, and tickles my heart
with his feathers.
THE FOOL AND THE FLEAS.
(from the Greek of Lucian.)
A fool was bitten by the fleas ;
So he put out the light :
And as he did it, " Now," said he,
" You cannot see to bite."
THE MISER.
(From the Greek of Nicarchus.)
So Pheidon weeps, poor miser, —
Not because death is near ;
But because he bought a coffin,
And paid for it too dear.
THE VIPER.
(From the Greek of Demodocus.)
A noxious viper once
A Cappadocian bit ;
But soon the reptile died, —
The blood had poisoned it.
ON A PHYSICIAN WHO WAS A THIEF.
(From the Greek.)
With medicines Rheidon takes away diseases,
But without medicines all things else he pleases.
H. B.
MAIDEN ASSIZES. — At the recent Montgomery-
shire Spring Assizes, held at Newtown, on Tuesday,
the 10th of March, 1874, the judge (Baron Pigott)
was presented with a pair of white gloves, there
not being a single prisoner for trial. There have
* &vw, Lat. duo, A.S. twA, Eng. two, being, as numerals,
dual in the sense, independently of the inflexion.
But bellum is duellum. What if -0w, -bo, Id, be but
itself the numeral, in ancienter guise ?
5th S. I. MAK. 21, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
227
been several maiden assizes for Merionethshire,
Anglesey, and one or two other Welsh counties,
but I believe this is the first instance of one in
Montgomeryshire, and I therefore hasten to " make
a note " of it. R. W.
[We must request correspondents desiring information
on family matters of only private interest, to affix their
names and addresses to their queries, in order that the
answers may be addressed to them direct.]
LUCIA VISCONTI, COUNTESS OF KENT. — Accord-
ing to Stow's Annales, after the death of Edmund,
Earl of Kent (September 15, 1408), Henry IV.
endeavoured in vain to induce the widowed
Countess Lucia to marry his (the King's) brother,
Thomas Beaufort ; and she, refusing this offer,
married Sir Henry Mortimer. I am desirous to
find out — (1) What (if any) relation was this
Henry Mortimer to the Earl of March ? (2) If
the Countess did not marry Thomas Beaufort, why
does Henry IV., on two occasions, style her " cara
soror nostra"? The dates are March 16, and
March 28, 1409 ; and the point is made more pro-
minent by the fact of the Countess Alesia, mother-
in-law of Lucia, mentioned with her on the latter
occasion, being only termed consanguinea. Did
Lucia marry Beaufort ? Did she lead the King to
suppose that she intended to marry him, and elope
with Mortimer at the last moment 1
HERMENTRUDE.
GLEBUSPENSKY. — Have any of the writings of
the Russian author Glebuspensky or Gogol (or
Gogoe ?) been translated into English ?
H. NELSON.
LOWNDES. — Has any one done for any of the
Continental literatures what Lowndes has done
for English ? The only work I know is Brunn's
Bibliotheca Danica, now in course of publication.
Has any one catalogued German literature from
the point where Panza's Annalen ceases 1
X. Y.
Cambridge.
THE KHASIAS.— Will Dr. Hyde Clarke kindly
tell me who these people are, and where I may
find an account of their doings as alluded to in the
Palestine Exploration Papers (April, 1871) in an
article by him on " Pre-Israelite Palestine " 1 —
" On this area, near the point at which the Caucaso-
Tibetan race probably descended from Thibet, we find a
living race, that of the Khasias, engaged in the building
of megalithic structures in our times."
PELAGIUS.
ARMS OF MILGATE. — In Glover's History of
Derbyshire, under the pedigree of Beaumont of
Barrow-on-the-Hill, it is stated that that family
quarters the arms of Milgate, Edward Beaumont
having married Ann, daughter and heir of William
Milgate of Lockington, but the arms are not given.
Can any one inform me what are the arms of
Milgate 1 Robert Baynbrigge, who settled at
Lockington, co. Leic., dr. 1555, married Isabel,
daughter of William Milgate of Manchester, ac-
cording to the pedigree, who was doubtless the
same as the father of Ann Milgate. In Lockington
Church are, or were, these arms in a window:
Bainbrigge, impaling, argent, 2 bends engrailed
sable, a label of 3 points gules. Is it possible that
these could be the arms of Milgate ? I am aware
that they are identical with the arms of Radclyffe
of Ordeshall, in Lancashire ; but there is no alliance
with the Radclyffes in the Bainbrigge pedigree,
and, besides, these arms are placed adjoining those
of the son of Robert Baynbrigge, while Robert
himself was the first of the family who lived at
Lockington. J. H. BAINBRIGGE.
Bromsgrove.
BIBLIOGRAPHY.—
"Thule. Memoirs of the Nobility, Gentry, &c., of
Thule, or the Island of Love, being a Secret History of
their Amours, Artifices, and Intrigues." 2 vols. 12mo.
London, 1744.
" A copy is in the British Museum, with MS. notes by
W. Cole." — Lowndes.
Who is the author, and of what nature are
Cole's notes ? W.
WINDOW GARDENING. — I shall feel obliged for
reference to any information relating to the early
history of this now popular movement. B.
BARDOLF OF WIRMEGAY. — Will some one of
your contributors, who is conversant with our old
baronial pedigrees, do me the favour to give me
answers to the following queries ? —
1. Whether Thomas Bardolf, who was the eldest
son and heir of Hugh Lord Bardolf and of Isabel
his wife, and aged twenty-two at his father's
death, in 32 Edw. I., died without issue ; and
whether the Thomas Lord Bardolf, a K.B., who
was summoned to Parliament from 26 Aug., 1
Edw. II., 1307, to 23 Oct., 4 Edw. III., 1330, was
a different person, and son of William Bardolf,
who was second son of Hugh, or how otherwise ?
2. Whether John Lord Bardolf, son of said
Thomas, who married Elizabeth D'Amorie, had a
former wife, named Katherine, and by her a son
Thomas, living 11 Edw. III., who died without
succeeding to the barony ?
3. Whether Thomas Bardolf, the last baron of
that name, who died 5 Hen. IV., being then in
rebellion against that king, died from wounds re-
ceived at the battle of Bramham Moor, or whether
on the scaffold ] G. A. C.
ST. GEORGE AND THE DRAGON. — Can you refer
me to the original mystery play of St. George and
the Dragon, from which the traditional fragments
NOTES AND QUERIES.
15th 8. I. MAR. 21, 74.
still performed in Lancashire and Yorkshire are
derived ? —
" Who lists may in their mumming see
Traces of ancient mystery."
Introd. cant. vi. Marmion.
T. L.
MR. LORRAINE SMITH. — Probably many of the
readers of " N. & Q." remarked a passage in a
speech of the present Prime Minister addressed to
his constituents at Buckingham, on the 10th ult.,
in which he mentioned a ride he once had from
" Hampden to Kimbolton with a gentleman once
well known in this hall" (viz., the town-hall of
Buckingham), " Mr. Lorraine Smith." I have long
wished to learn something about this gentleman,
who was a friend of a deceased member of my own
family. I desire to know whether he was of any
and what profession, where he . resided, and
whether any account of his family is to be met
with in any county history or other publication.
C. M.
SPY WEDNESDAY. — This is Wednesday in Holy
Week, so I have lately been told by an Irish
servant. I cannot find the name in Chambers's
Book of Days. Is the day so called from the Jews
spying our Lord in the garden, under the leader-
ship of Judas, or from what reason ? H. A. W.
ST. BERNAJRD OF CLAIRVAUX. — Which of his
works have been translated into English 1
H. A. W.
"HONEST WILL. CROUCH."— A rare mezzotint
of him, signed " N. Tucker pinx. 1725," "P. Pel-
ham fecit," bears the following tribute to his
worth : —
" In constant Industry deserving praise
Honest Will. Grouch has spent his youthful days ;
He pious bounties undistinguished gave,
Intonab'd the Princess,* and relieved the slave ;
Age he undaunted bears, nor fears decay,
Since Art preserves what Time would -take away."
This portrait is No. 2796 in Evans's Catalogue,
where the so-called German Princess is namec
Mary Carlton. What is her history? Who was
"Honest Will. Crouch"? W. K. G.
KING JOHN'S PALACE OR TOWER. — There existed
within the last thirty years, out Stepney way, a
very old 'building, designated as above, connectec
with several acres of ground. Cunningham make:
no mention of it. It has been improved off thi
face of creation, and a multitude of mean rent
yielding houses have been erected on the area. I
there any account to be had of it ; whose property
was it ; was there any plausible historic tale con
necting it with King Sans Terre ? C. A. W.
Mavfair.
"She called the German Princess.'
BERKELEY or BEVERSTON. — Is anything known
o any readers of " N. & Q." respecting the de-
cendants of Sir John Berkeley of Beverston
)astle ? He sold that very ancient home of his
Ancestors in 1597; went to Virginia in 1620; and
s said to have fallen in an encounter with the
ndians. He appears to have had ten children, of
whom the eldest was named Maurice, the latter
laving a son named Edward.
HILTON HENBURNY.
" See one physician, like a sculler, plies,
The patient lingers and by inches dies.
But two physicians, like a pair of oars,
Waft him more swiftly to the Stygian shores."
May I, with some shame, ask your aid in tracing
he origin of these familiar lines ? W. T. M.
Shinfield Grove,
" SELE " : " WHAM." — Will any correspondent
of " N. & Q.," learned in A.S. and Celtic, kindly
lelp me to the etymons of the words sele and wham?
[n documents relating to the property of the Priory
of Hexham, I find sele used as the name of a
portion of land in several cases ; thus, the monks
of Hexham have 20 acres of arable land and
meadow in Green Healey, of which 12 acres
3 roods lie " in le scele juxta le segge-strothre."
Again, they hold 74 acres of land " in quadam
;ultura quse dicitur le sele." In Professor H.
Leo's work on Local Nomenclature, sele is given as
ihe A.S. for a dwelling ; but this seems inapplic-
able here. The above-mentioned 7£ acres now
form the public park of this town, and the field,
after the lapse of above 800 years, still retains the
name of the Seal.
In the Ordnance Map of the Northern Counties,
the names of several farmsteads are compounded of
wham ; thus, Midge- wham, Bean-wham, &c., in
Northumberland, and Wham-moss, &c., in Cum-
berland. Wham is said to be equivalent to the
modern word swamp. If so, what was the differ-
ence between a wham and a strother, which has
been explained in " N. & Q." (4tb S. viii. 285, 378)
to be a marsh ? THOMAS DOBSON, B.A.
Hexham.
"PUT TO BUCK." — A few days ago a common
labourer, a native of Ashburton, told me that his
day's work had not amounted to much, it had been
so very difficult— that, in fact, he had " never been
put to buck " so much in his life. On speaking of
the phrase to a gentleman, born at Newton Abbot,
about seven miles from Ashburton, I learnt that it
was a common expression when a man found him-
self engaged on difficult work. Can any one state
what is its origin, or whether it is used elsewhere 1
WM. PENGELLY.
Torquay.
5th S. I. MAE. 21, 74.]
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229
ON THE ELECTIVE AND DEPOSING POWER
OF PARLIAMENT.
(4th S. xii. 321, 349, 371, 389, 416, 459 ; 5th S. i.
130, 149, 169, 189, 209.)
( Concluded from p. 210.^
W. A. B. C., in support of his version of the
case, appeals to Hallam, who, however, is no autho-
rity on disputed questions of fact, which must
depend upon original evidence and contemporary
records, to which I have appealed. Hallam admits
that the reign of Eichard II. " has been" the most
imperfectly written of any in our history. " Some,"
he says, " have misrepresented the truth through
carelessness, and others from prejudice." He says
further, the reign is only to be understood by a
perusal of the Eolls of Parliament " with some
assistance from the contemporary historians, Wal-
singham, Knyghton, and Froissart"; and then he
admits that these, except the last, are " extremely
hostile to Eichard" (being partisans of the new
king, the usurper) ; and yet he proceeds to give an
account entirely derived from those untrustworthy
chroniclers — the usurper's partisans — utterly at
variance with that to be derived from the Eolls of
Parliament, which I have cited. His account, there-
fore, is very cursory, and is of no authority at all. Yet
even from his imperfect account much of the truth
may be extracted. Hallam admits that the revo-
lution was " so far accomplished by force that the
king was in captivity, and those who might still
adhere to him in no condition to support his autho-
r,ity." " That the renunciation of Eichard might
well pass for the effect of compulsion," so that there
was strong reason for propping up its instability
by a solemn deposition from the throne, but that
" the right of dethroning a monarch was nowhere
found in the law." So that, after all, it was not, as
Mr. Freeman insists, a " regular " act, of a nature
well known to the law, but one utterly illegal, and
devised to prop up a false pretence of a pretended
abdication by a pretended deposition of a deposed
and imprisoned king, in his absence, and without
hearing or defence ! In the face of all this, what
does Hallam resort to in order to prop up this hate-
ful measure of fraud and violence ? The " sincere
concurrence which most of the prelates and nobility,
with the mass of the people, gave," — an astounding
assertion, contrary to the Eolls of Parliament and
contemporary history, which disclose the murder of
one peer and two eminent statesmen ; the
threat of murder to any peer who should dare to
support his sovereign, and the execution of that
threat by the deliberate murder of several of them
soon afterwards ; the disgust even of the peers whose
support the usurper had obtained under false
pretences ; and the rebellions which disturbed his
reign, in which so many peers and prelates took
part, arid in the course of which, for the first time
in our history, an archbishop was hanged without
trial. The assertion is refuted by the fact that,
after a reign more sanguinary for its duration than
any in our history, the succession of Henry's son
was resisted by the first peer of the realm ; that his
short reign was only sustained by military glory ;
and that in the reign of his successor, the peers
solemnly decided that his family had no right to
the throne, and that his grandfather had been a
usurper. There is the further fact that Henry IV.
was branded by Parliament as a usurper and a
murderer, and that this sentence was allowed to
stand by Henry VII. himself, then the head of the
House of Lancaster. Mr. Hallam's version, there-
fore, which could not be any authority at all, is
directly at variance with that of Parliament, which
in this question must necessarily be conclusive.
The object of Mr. Hallam's falsified version is
manifest from the close of the passage, in which he
seeks to draw a parallel between the rebellion of
Henry and the Eevolution of 1688. The only
point of resemblance, however, he takes care to
keep out of sight, that in neither case was there a
parliamentary deposition at all, and that in both
cases the king was virtually deposed before any
Parliament was called at all ; the radical difference
between the cases being that the real object in
the one case was usurpation, in the other it was
not; in the one case, though under compulsion,
there was a sanction given to rebellion and deposi-
tion, which in the other case was not given ; in the
one case a new dynasty was seated on the throne,
in the other the old line of succession was sedulously
preserved, so far as was consistent with the actual
necessities and exigencies of the time.
It is not true, as a fact, that the Parliament of the
Eevolution gave any sanction to the deposition of
James ; and, on the contrary, they avoided doing
so by asserting a falsehood, and getting up the
false pretence of an abdication, which they knew
was forced. This shows how they shrank from the
parallel which Hallam suggests, and how afraid they
were of adopting the dangerous doctrine of the right
of deposition, which, indeed, Parliament expressly
condemned by imposing an oath on those who
were supposed to hold it, disavowing it as damn-
able. Not only, therefore, has Parliament never
given its sanction to that abominable doctrine, but
it has again and again disclaimed and denounced
it, as will be clearly shown when dealing with the
reign of James II. It will then also be shown that
Parliament then most zealously upheld the prin-
ciple of hereditary succession, and avoided giving
the least sanction to the dangerous doctrine of
election. The statesmen of the Eevolution indeed
disclaimed the doctrine of "divine right," and
maintained that the crown was hereditary only by
common law, but they acknowledged that it was
hereditary, and was so because it had always been
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so, by that ancient customary right which makes
up the common law.
As to the quotation from Cardinal Pole —
"populus regem creat" — ecclesiastics are not oracles
of English law, and even if they were, the question
is not one of right but fact. Next, W. A. B. C.
quite misquotes and misunderstands the Cardinal.
The Cardinal did not write " populus regem creat,"
but "procreat"; and his meaningwas notthat at each
vacancy the people were to elect a king, but that
originally the constitution of monarchy came from
the general consent of society, instead of being
directly instituted by God. In short, his doctrine
was that of Bellarmine and Saurez against our
James I. — that the monarchy did not exist by
Divine right but by English law. This is the
doctrine of all our lawyers from Bracton down-
wards, and yet all our lawyers have held the
doctrine of hereditary right to the crown. The
best possible version of Pole's meaning is conveyed
in the extract from Lord Somers, supplied by Mr.
Purton (vol. xii. p. 459), that kings generally
came out of the people as being at first made by
them, as no doubt they were ; for all barbarous
chieftains were originally elected ; and the here-
ditary principle was adopted, like every other
principle of law, for the sake of society, and exists
only by virtue of law ; from whence, of course, it
follows, that it could be altered by an act of
legislation. But then this implies that it is
law, and that it requires an act of legislation to
alter it, and that it could not be altered only by
the will of Parliament, which is the question in
dispute.
It is only fair to W. A. B. C. to acknowledge
that his views are those of eminent writers, such as
Stubbs and Freeman, and, to some extent, Hallam,
whom he has followed. But, as Mr. Gardner had
lately occasion to observe in the Academy, Hallam,
Stubbs, and Freeman are not original authorities
on disputed questions of history. It is an advan-
tage to my opponent that he has a right, of course,
to appeal to their opinions, but I, who dispute their
facts, can hardly be bound by their opinions.
A learned writer on legal history made some
observations, which I here quote in my own
justification : —
" The dissipation of error is one way of establishing
truth. Many are the misconceptions and prejudices
•which the student in all sciences has to combat on his
progress towards knowledge. In that progress he will
often find that the most difficult part of learning is to
unlearn. He will soon perceive that many of the asser-
tions of the wise had their origin in ignorance. He
will soon, therefore, perceive that assertion must be
attended" to with caution. He must scrutinize and in-
vestigate; he must regard a blind acquiescence in
arbitrary assertion, or implicit reliance on the authority
of great names, as the bane of everything rational. Upon
assertions and positions uttered without proof, and
adopted without inquiry, how often has contradiction
been piled upon contradiction, and absurdity upon
absurdity, till truth has been rdriven out ashamed and
confused, and error usurped the heart of man ! "
I hope now to be permitted to resume and continue
my further papers on the subject. W. F. F.
P.S. Since writing the above, I have observed
in the Saturday Review an allusion to the subject
in an article which internal evidence clearly traces
to Mr. Freeman. He there says, in terms similar
to those he uses in his book, " We know very well
what we have to look for when any part of our
early history gets into the hands of mere lawyers.
They assume, for instance, that the hereditary king
must have been from the beginning." They do not
assume anything ; for one of the effects of a legal
education is to train the mind to require authority
for every assertion, and to accept no statement not
capable of proof. Thus, on this very subject, it is
impossible for any legal writer to avoid the con-
clusion that our monarchy was always hereditary,
seeing that the earliest glimpses we get of it show
us that it was so, and all ancient authorities, with-
out any single instance to the contrary, except
those of force and violence, describe it so. The
Saxon idea of sovereignty was essentially here-
ditary, for it was supposed to be derived, by
descent, from Woden. Thus, in Bede, we read,
" Voden, de cujus stirpe multarum provinciarum
regium genus originem duxit" (Bed. i. 15). And
in the Saxon Chronicle we find the chronicler con-
tinually stopping to trace the descent of a king
upwards to Woden. But Mr. Freeman, having a
theory chiefly founded on some crotchet as to the
etymology of Cyning, will insist upon it, in the-
face of all contemporary authority, that the Saxon
kings were not hereditary. That is, he makes history
square with his theory ; whereas a legal education
would lead a man to make his theory square with
the facts of history. And in many other ways a
legal education is not only useful, but essential to
the right understanding of such subjects ; and to
the want of it we may trace many errors in Mr.
Freeman's works. Thus, he does not understand
the distinction between dignities and property, nor
the tendency in early times to make dignities
descend in the male line, and to adults, discarding
the young children of deceased sons ; and then he ,
supposes that this was not hereditary descent,
because our present mode of descent as to property.
is different. But as Sir F. Palgrave pointed out,
though the Saxons divided the inheritance of pro-
perty, they made dignities, and especially sove-
reignty, descend to male heirs and adult males,,
not admitting the representation of a deceased son
by his child. Yet so strong was the principle of
liereditary descent, that before the Conquest,,
hough females did not, for the reasons pointed out
by Sir F. Palgrave, inherit earldoms, yet an.
arldom was allowed to descend to a daughter's
son. Thus the chroniclers tell us that the Con-
queror made Cospatrick Earl of Northumberland1-
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" nam ex materno sanguine attinebat ad eum
honor illius comitatus ; erat enim ex matre Algitha
filia Uthredi Comitis1' (Sim. Dunelm.}. This was
pointed out by Mr. Finlason in his Treatise on
Hereditary Dignities, in which he showed that
dignities originally descended to males. Mr.
Freeman, in his article in the Saturday Eevieiv,
introduces a sneer at " the pleasing simplicity of
Mr. Finlason," who, he says, " searching into the
nature of Earls, is clearly surprised to find that
an Earl's daughter in the eleventh century was not
a countess in her own right." A writer who in-
dulges in anonymous sneers at another ought at
least to adhere to the truth as to his adversary's
statements ; but the writer here gives a repre-
sentation of what Mr. Finlason had written
exactly the reverse of what it really was. No
doubt Mr. Freeman did not mean to misrepresent ;
the simple truth is, that through want of know-
ledge of legal history, he does not understand the
subject, and does not always know the modern
equivalents of terms used by ancient writers.
This is, in reality, a branch of legal history, and
cannot be understood by those who are not well
versed in the history of law. Mr. Stubbs falls
into similar errors from the same reason. Writers
like Freeman and Stubbs throw valuable light on
our social history, but in constitutional history,
which is really legal history, they are sadly at fault ;
and hence their sneers at those who possess the
legal knowledge in which they are deficient. Yet
they derive much assistance from the labours of
those whom they thus affect to despise ; and in the
latest works both of Mr. Freeman and Mr. Stubbs,
it may be seen that they have derived some light
from Mr. Finlason's edition of Eeeves's History of
the Law. Mr. Freeman has evidently derived from
that source the idea of institutions such as the
hundred having been diffused by the Eomans ; but,
missing the solid basis of historic fact, he has flown
off upon the wings of fancy to the theory of a
common origin of institutions, which, as the Aca-
demy shows, is quite untenable. So Mr. Stubbs,
in his Constitutional -History, just out, has ob-
viously derived much assistance from Mr. Finlason's
labours, as he had previously derived from that
source the idea of his continuity of the charters
from the time of the Conqueror to the Great
Charter; but the only acknowledgment he has
made is to ascribe to Mr. Finlason an idea of the
origin of trial by jury quite the opposite of what
Mr. Finlason has given. And then they sneer at
him in anonymous articles ! This is not generous.
W. F. F.
BERE EEGIS CHURCH (4th S. xii. 492 ; 5th S. i.
50, 117, 154, 176, 199.)— LORD LYTTELTON will,
I trust, excuse me if I venture to differ from him
on one or two points in his last paper (p. 176),
especially on that in which he takes exception to
my version of a certain sentence in this epitaph,
characterizing it as "most awkward." My best
defence, I think, will be to give the sentence more
at length — as far as " expiravit," beginning with
" quo devictus," putting the words as they must be
put to get anything like intelligible English from,
them. I will only alter the construction of
" tandem," and give the clause, " Voti fluminei
damnas memor," as a parenthesis, when, I fancy, it
will be seen that there is no need of inserting " fuit"
after " devictus." Laborans per triennium herculeo
morbo, quo tandem devictus (memor damnas
fluminei voti) expiravit, — literally rendered =
Labouring for three years under an herculean
disorder, epilepsy, by which at last being over-
come (mindful of the obligation of " his baptismal
vow"), he expired.
LORD LYTTELTON'S " where " does not seem to
me any improvement upon his "whence"; either
must refer to the clause preceding, a construction
of which the sense does not admit. " Where,"
moreover, cannot be allowed as a rendering of
" tandem," always embodying the notion of time,
never of place, as I am aware. I have plenty of
Lexicons, but find them all to fail of any " sort of
authority " for this interpretation.
The rendering of " decessor " I fully accept. It
is based on the best authority. Tacitus, in the
Agricola, vii., uses it exactly in this sense, where
he speaks of Agricola as " successor " to Koscius
Coelius his " decessor."
MR. WARREN, I find, is right as to the date. In
Roman numeration a less number preceding a
greater is always to be taken as a sign of subtraction,
e. g. ix. means x — i = 9. Hence in this date iiix.
means x — iii = 7, making it 1637.
EDMUND TEW, M.A.
P.S. LORD LYTTELTON'S correction (p. 199) of
an obvious error has precluded any necessity for
remarking on that point.
WELSH LANGUAGE (4th S. xii. 368, 415, 523 ;
5th S. i. 78.)— M. H. K. has inadvertently con-
founded two distinct letters on this subject. It
was I, not MR. UNNONE, who asserted that ystwyll
should be divided y and stioyll, instead of ys and
twyll ; and the reason I gave was that in words
which really begin with ys, the consonants c, p, t
are changed into g, b, d. I find, however, that this
rule is not universal, and, therefore, I retract the
" all " of my former letter ; though I still assert
that by far the larger number of such words suffer
the change I have mentioned. That my derivation
from etoile, through the older form estoile, from
stella, is not " far-fetched," appears from the corre-
sponding instances of yspryd and ysgrythyr, which
come from spiritus and scriptura respectively ; a
fact which no one disputes. I will not say that
the two last-named words necessarily come through
the French esprit and e(s)criture, because the habit
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[5th S. I. MAR. 21, '74.
of the Celtic peoples, to which I alluded on p. 524
of the last series, quite accounts for the prefix y ;
but I think that ystwyll comes through the French,
because its last syllable seems like an attempt to
represent roughly the sound of oi in estoile,
whereas, if it were taken directly from the Latin
stella, it would probably have appeared in the form
of ystell. It should be noted that there is a real
Welsh word ystel, meaning " a projecting point."
Many Welsh ecclesiastical terms are (as might be
expected) of Latin origin, as Pasg (Pascha), Trin-
dod (Trinitas), Eglwys (Ecclesia), Cymmun (Com-
munio), Ffydd (Fides), and several more, of which
Ysgrythyr and Yspryd have already been cited.
On the other hand, many are purely Welsh, as
Enwaediad (Circumcision), Garawys (Lent), Dyr-
chafael (Ascension), &c. ; so that the argument
from analogy proves nothing either way, and I
merely put forward my proposed derivation as a
probable one. If I were to abandon it, I should
certainly accept Dr. Pughe's, i. e., from ystgwyll,
since the laws of Welsh mutation would eliminate
the g in such a compound ; but I do not quite see
how to account for the t on this theory, the Welsh
verb of existence being ys or ydys, not yst. Yet
even here the cognate forms est and ecrri might
tend to show that a t originally formed part of the
word ; though I do not wish to express any
opinion on this point. At any rate, there is no
lucus a non lucendo in Dr. Pughe's suggestion,
since he speaks of that which exists in the gloom,
not that which is the gloom.
One other query of M. H. E. cannot be allowed
to pass without notice. He asks " whence is that
English word twelfth derived ] " and actually pro-
poses to go to the Welsh language for a solution !
Can there possibly be any one at this day, taking
an interest in questions of etymology, who is igno-
rant of the history of our numerals? — any one
who does not know that twelf-th is a regular
ordinal formation from twelve, and that t ivelve (said
to be compounded of two and leave, being two left
after counting ten) is identically the same in all
languages of the Teutonic stock, e. g., Gothic twalif,
English twelf and twelve, Danish tolo, High Ger-
man zwolf ? The formation of the numerals eleven
and twelve is really a curiosity of language, eleven
being (on the same theory) one left, Gothic ainlif
Old English endlafon, &c., and presenting
marked difference from the method adopted in
other languages, of adding one and two to ten, as
in undecim, duodecim ; evSe/ca, SwSc/ca ; un(art
ddeg, deuddeg (Welsh) ; aon-deug, dha-dheug
(Gaelic). There is surely no lack of books at th
present day to supply this and plenty of sinrila'
information. C. S. JERRAM.
The following sentences, literally translated from
the work of a Welsh lexicographer, yield a
amusing derivation of the word ystwyll :—
"And Rhonwan (Rowena), the daughter of Hengist,
rought to drink to him wine in a gold bowl, saying,
Weas heal hlaford cyning ! ' Then Gwrtheyrn (Vor-
igern) asked of his chamberlain, who was his interpreter,
what she was saying, for Gwrtheyrn knew not a word of
lie Saxon tongue. He answered that this she said, viz.,
Be health to my Lord King.' And this was the beginning
f the GwasAl on the night of the festival of Ystwyll, i. e.
be festival of fraud or deception " —
n the original " nos y twyll" ! By " Gwasal," he
means the name given to the carolling which fre-
Luently occurs in Wales at Christmas-tide, old and
iew, by parties going about from house to house
with a horse's head dressed with ribbons, &c., in
ome places, but with other rites and ceremonies in
)ther localities. R. & M.
In German we find the word zwei, two. There
was formerly another form of the word used for the
feminine gender, zwo, and from this was formed
zwolf, the vowel being softened. Thus we have in
German and English, swo, " two" ; zwolf, " twelve."
As for the "th," we find it in all the ordinal
numbers but the first three, as fourth, fifth, &c.
S. P.
WAYNECLOWTES : PLOGH CLOWTKS (5th S. i. 167)
are probably nails with very large heads for mak-
.ng or mending waggons and ploughs. The word
occurs in the Privy Purse Expenses of Elizabeth of
York—1' Item for v Ib. of clowtes viid ob.," p. 103.
Any Lincolnshire blacksmith would understand
J. T. F. if he asked him for some clowt nails. A
clowt is also an iron plate used to keep an axle-
tree from wearing away.
Birne iron: marhyng iron. — These seem both
to mean the same thing, i.e., & branding iron for
marking goods or cattle. If there be any difference,
the Birne iron was the implement that did its
office by means of heat, and the markyng iron by
the use of some coloured pigment.
Flekes pro plaustro. — A fleke, fleak or flake,
means a hurdle made of rods wattled together —
see Promptoriuin Parvulorum, 165. The song of
John Nobody, a satire on the Reformers written in
the reign of Edward VI., says of the "Gay
gallants, that will construe the Gospel," that it
would be more meet for them " to milk kye at a.
fleyke " than to discuss divinity. Strype's Cran-
mer, ii. 636, E. H. S. edit. Flekes are constantly
mentioned in the churchwardens' accounts of
Louth. In 1538 there is an entry which leaves no
doubt as to what they were — "For fleakes sett
betwixt the falow felde & este felde viiid." The
flekes J. T. F. has come in contact with were pro-
bably intended for attaching to the sides of wag-
gons, for the purpose of increasing their capacity
when employed to carry light material.
Gresman. — Grassman is explained in Jamieson's
Dictionary of the Scottish Language, to be " the
tenant of a cottage in the country who has no
land attached to it."
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Allarium. — Can this be a form of amnarium
or annarium, a cupboard 1 MABEL PEACOCK.
Bottesford Manor, Brigg.
BEZIQUE or BE"SIQUE (5th S. i. 167.)— The
derivation of this word is asked for. I have lookec
into the accounts and rules of the game recently
published by Goodall and others, but do not find
any mention of the derivation of the word Bazique.
According to " Cavendish," who is an authority on
this subject, no one knows the exact origin of the
game. In an article upon " Bezique," in the
Gentleman's Magazine, January, 1870, he spoke of
the games " brusquembille," " briscan or brisque,"
and then said : — .f* .
" It seems not unlikely that some genius who knew
these games conceived the ' happy thought ' of shuffling
two piquet packs together, and playing Irisaue with
them. The new game would naturally require some
modifications, which the aforesaid genius, or his as-
sociates, would as naturally make ; and hence this game,
which now only required christening. ' Give it a name,
I beg '; and so it was ushered forth to the world as lesi,
lesiffue, or besfgue, for no particular reason that we are
aware of, unless, possibly, that it might bear one more
point of resemblance to brusquemlille. Of that game it
is written in the A cademie des Jeux — ' No account can be
given concerning the name of this game, unless we sup-
pose it to be the fancy of him that invented it, for it
has no sort of relation to the game.' "
In the "Table-Talk" of Once a Week, February
13, 1869, it is stated that a " very complete set of
instructions and rules for playing the game of
Bazique was published in Macmillan's Magazine,"
November, 1861, and that "the game has been
brought into fashion by the Duke of Edinburgh,
under whose patronage Messrs. Goodall & Son pub-
lish ' The Royal Game' of Bazique and the royal edi-
tion of its rules" (1869). One of the pseudo-blind
men in Offenbach's Deux Aveugles, written about
the year 1854, speaks of the game of "besfgue."
In the volume of Once a Week, January to July,
1869 (edited by E. S. Dallas), there is an article
" Concerning Bezique," at p. 216, concerning which
I well remember having a talk with Mr. Dallas ;
but I have mislaid that particular number of the
periodical, and therefore I cannot say if it gives
the derivation of the word Bazique.
CUTHBERT BEDE.
There can be little doubt about the etymology
of this word. In Baretti's Italian Dictionary (I
have an edition as far back as 1820) "Bazzica"
has, amongst other meanings, that of " a game at
cards." It seems, therefore, that the above word
is Italian Frenchified. M. H. R.
"BLODIUS" (5th S. i. 167.)— I am unable, for
the present, to solve any of J. T. F.'s difficulties.
Though, in my work on the new Du Cange, I have
already passed the words panis and pannus, I
am at a loss to guess what can be the meaning of
pro pane micando, and pannus vocatus lewan, &c.
I intend, however, to take a note of J. T. F.'s
observations, and I would be obliged to him if he
would give me the passages in which the above
and similar difficulties occur. I give my address,
but I think " N. & Q." would be the best place to
insert them, as they may attract the attention of
those who could settle at least some of the points.
J. H. HESSELS.
Trinity College Library, Dublin.
SMALL TABLES (5th S. i. 168.)— I have three of
these, date about the close of the last century: —
1. 26 inches high, top 11 inches across, used as a
stand for a tea-kettle or urn ; 2. 21 inches high,
top 11 inches, used to carry a bed-room night-
shade ; 3. 29 inches high, top 24 inches, used as
an Ombre or tea-table, called " drum." All are with
tray-tops and rims, and on three claws. E. B.
" WE MAY LIVE WITHOUT POETRY," &C. (5th S.
1. 87.) — Vide Lucile, by Owen Meredith, Canto
2, xix. C. FAULKE-WATLING.
HUGH SKEYS (5th S. i. 129.)— His first wife,
Miss Fanny Blood, was my aunt. The name of
his second wife was Eliza Delane.
WILLIAM BLOOD.
Liverpool.
" NE SUTOR," &c. (5th S. i. 145.)— The Town-
Clerk of Selkirk tells me that it is upwards of
120 years ago since shoemaking was the staple
trade in Selkirk. Honorary Burgesses, upon
their admission, go through the process of licking
the "birse" still. Earl Russell and Sir Walter
Scott did so on their admission, though Sir Walter
says that when Prince Leopold (King of the
Belgians) was admitted the ceremony was dispensed
with. RICHARD LEES.
"SIMPSON" (5th S. i. 165.)— DR. CHARNOCK is
no doubt right in deriving Simpson from Senecio ;
but may I suggest that it has probably come
through Senegon, the French name for groundsel ?
Many French words linger in the Eastern Counties ;
e.g., mavis, for thrush. F. H. H.
ANCESTRY OF GEORGE Fox (5th S. i. 180.) —
George Fox does not say in his journal that his
mother, Mary Lago, was " descended from the
Lago family," nor does he say or imply that this
family had " given its quota to the roll of Christian
martyrs." He simply states that she was " of the
iarnily of the Lagos and the stock of the martyrs."
That these martyrs were not Spaniards is evident
TOUL their names, Robert Glover and Joyce Lewis.
See, for an account of them, the well-known pages
of another Fox, the martyrologist. See also the
narrative of their lives, by the late Rev. Benjamin
Elichings ; and Independency in Warwickshire, by
Sibree and Caston, 1855, pp. 235-8. The most
ecent notice of the subject is in the Theological
234
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5th S. I. MAB. 21, 74.
Review, January, 1874, p. 39, note. Mancetter
Church contains a couple of modern (wooden)
monuments dedicated to their memory. Respect-
ing the name Lago, it may be added that it is still
found in the Midlands. Query, its origin 1
V.H.I.L.LC.LV.
LORD'S PRAYER, ROYAL AND REPUBLICAN (4th
S. xii. 429.) — At first sight this story looks very
much like an invention of Berkenhead, or some
other Cavalier wit, founded, probably, upon the
change made in the name of the Court of King's
Bench and similar obliterations of the royal title.
Another example of these ben trovato tales is that
which represents Cromwell as stamping his cannon
with the pious text " 0 Lord, open thou our lips,
and our mouth shall shew forth thy praise."
C. ELLIOT BROWNE.
" THE CROWN OF A HERALD KING OF ARMS "
(5th S. i. 146.) — It is no doubt wrong to describe
the "pheon" as "the barbed head of a spear or
arrow," seeing that it is that of a dart or javelin.
I am aware that the heraldic pheon is depicted
with the inner edges of its fluke serrated, or rather
engrailed ; but amongst the few real examples of
this rare weapon which I have seen, such has not
been the case ; they resembled the broad arrow,
and I believe the two to be identical. G-willim
says of the pheon — " It pierceth speedily, and
maketh a large wound, by reason of the wide
spreading barbs thereof."
W. J. BERNHARD SMITH.
Temple.
" ALL LOMBARD STREET TO A CHINA ORANGE "
(5th S. i. 189.) — I take it that the original notion
is in Shakspeare, where Biron backs Costard with
" My hat to a halfpenny " (Love's Labour's Lost,
Act v. sc. 2). W. T. M.
Shinfield Grove.
MORTIMERS, LORDS OF WIGMORE (5th S. i. 188.)
— For the origin of the Mortimers MR. STONE is
referred to Watson's History of the Earls of Surrey,
where it will appear that Ralph de Mortimer, the
first of them, was brother to my venerable ancestor,
William de Warren, first Earl of Surrey, and,
together with him, " came over with the Con-
queror." C. F. S. WARREN, M.A.
MR. STONE will find a good article on Wig-
more Castle, and the family of the Mortimers,
with three pedigrees of the family from different
sources, by Sir Samuel Rush Meyrick, K.H., in
the Analyst for 1836, vol. iv. pp. 3-28 ; 243-266.
In a paper in the same work, vol. ii. 73-84, also
by Sir Samuel R. Meyrick, there is a pedigree of
the family of Owain Glendwr, but it does not
answer the questions put by MR. STONE.
SAMUEL SHAW.
Andoyer.
SIR ISAAC NEWTON (5th S. i. 186.) — In fmy
boyhood, "when George the Third was king," I
heard a similar story told of Dr. Parr, who unques-
tionably was a most inveterate smoker. Only it
had nothing to do with his " ladye-love." It was
that, sitting next to a young lady, he took up her
hand and used one finger as a pipe-stopper (let
us hope before the pipe was lighted), and then
apologized, saying he had mistaken it for an ivory
tobacco-stopper. It was intended as a piece of
gallantry on the part of the learned doctor.
1 . ' ' . - \ .
"ADDRESS TO THE STARS" (5th S. i. 167.) —
The author was the Rev. J. Johns, a Unitarian
Minister at Crediton in Devonshire. It -first
appeared in the Monthly Repository for November,
1823, and afterwards in the Neio Monthly Maga-
zine. It was again republished in a volume of
poems, entitled Dews of Castalie, London, 1828.
J. M.
Cranwells, Bath.
OWEN GLENDOWER (5th S. i. 188.)— Will the
following notes from contemporary documents be
of any service to MR. STONE 1
July 10, 1400. — " On the same day came Owen Glen-
dordy with a great army to the said town of Cardiff, and
Thomas, Bishop of Llandaff, consecrated the said church
of St. Mary, which was polluted. . . by great effusion of
blood ; and, afterwards, the said Isabel was baptized." —
(Prob. cet. Isabella ux. Rid. de Beaiichamp, sor. et her.
Rid. fil. et her. Tho. nuper Dni. Le Despenser, 2 H.
V. 23.')
Nov. 8, 1400. — "Lands of Owen de Glyndordy, conceded
to John, Earl of Somerset, in North and South Wales." —
(Rot. Pat. 2 H. IV., Part i.)
1407. — " Expenses incurred for Griffin, son of Owen
Glendour.'1 [Evidently a prisoner.] — (Rot. Exit. Pasc.,
8 H. IV.)
Feb. 22, 1414. — "Katherine Mortymer and her
daughters, in the King's custody within the city of Lon-
don." [Is not this Owen's daughter, the wife of Edmund
Mortimer 1}— (Rot. Exit. Micks., 1 H. V.)
Dec. 1, 1413.—" To Will, del Chaumbre, varlet of Tho.
Earl of Arundel, for expenses, etc., of funeral of the wife
and daughters of Edmund Mortimer, buried in the
Church of St. Swithin, London, 20s."— (Ib.)
April 8, 1421. — " Pardon of Meredith, son of Owynus
de Glendordy, ' according to the sacred precept that the
son shall not bear the iniquities of the father.' " — (Rot.
Pat. 9 H. V., Part i.)
MR. STONE inquires further if there are any
extant descendants of the Mortimers of Wigmore,
Earls of March. Far too many to enumerate, the
heir general being Queen Victoria. But if he
means to inquire for heirs in the male line only,
that is an interesting and much harder question.
I am not able to trace any; but I will not venture
to say there are none. HERMENTRUDE.
PALACE OF ALCINA (5th S. i. 188.)— See Ariosto,
Orlando Furioso, cantos vi. and vii. J. N. may
be interested in comparing this description with
Tasso's Garden of Armida, Gerusalemme Liberata,
5* S. I. MAR. 21, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
235
c. xvi. ; Spenser's Island of Phsedria, Faery Queene,
B. II. c. vi. ; and Bower of Bliss, B. II. c. xii. ;
and Thomson's Castle of Indolence, canto i.
JONATHAN BOUCHIER.
" THROUGH LIFE'S ROAD," &c. (5th S. i. 207.)—
These lines ought to run thus : —
" Through life's road, so dim and dirty,
I have dragged to three and thirty :
What have these years left to me ]
Nothing, except thirty-three."
They are in Byron's Diary, January 22, 1821 (see
Moore's Life, under that date, vol. ii. 414, first
edition). LYTTELTON.
[They are at page 87 of Murray's one-volume edition.]
THE WATERLOO AND PENINSULAR MEDALS (5th
S. i. 47, 98, 136, 217.)— I am at a loss to under-
stand on what grounds MR. FLEMING disputes my
statement, that the Waterloo Medal was granted
to the military only, and asserts that it was granted
" to combatants and non-combatants alike." Will
he name the passage in the General Order which
he considers conferred it on the Civil Departments
of the Army 1 W. DILKE.
Chichester.
KOYAL HEADS ON BELLS (4th S. ix. 76, 250,
309 ; xii. 85.) — A friend has introduced me to
another bell bearing the heads of Ed. I. and
Eleanor, the stamps of which have evidently
passed down to a late founder, for the inscription
is in English, though in modern Gothic caps : —
IN THE NAYME OF IHS ME SPED.
This bell is at Thurcaston, Leicester ; a stamp of
the Virgin and child is also on the bell.
May I be allowed to say that it is very desirable
that all bell-hunters should send their finds to
one and the same periodical, and not scatter them
' broad-cast, first to one and then to another ? The
• editor of " N. & Q." has ever been a kind patron
of bells, and it is not my intention to desert such
a warm friend. H. T. ELLACOMBE.
Clyst St. George.
BURNS AT BROWNHILL INN (4th S. vi. 150.) — At
the above reference I wrote thus : —
" Here Burns, as is well known, was only too often
found in the evenings, and here it is also known that he
allowed his muse a licence which we can believe that he
regretted at the close of his life. The panes of glass in
the window contained proofs of mental obliquity, of
whieh his best friends were ashamed. These panes, on
which the poetry had been scribbled, were taken out by
the late Sir Charles Granville Stuart-Menteth, Bart.,
of Closeburn ; and I have only lately learned the fate
which has justly overtaken them. The late Sir James
Stuart-Menteth, of Mansfield in Ayrshire, was a warm
admirer of the poet, and jealous of everything that might
injure his reputation. Aware that the box in which his
father had got the panes packed was in his possession,
he examined it and destroyed the glass, that at no future
period it should be possible to give the poetry to the
world."
No one in your world-known publication has
ventured to controvert this statement ; but I have
only now, by the merest accident, discovered that
Mr. Scott Douglas, editor of Mr. McKie's edition
of Burns, has admitted into his work an attack on
its correctness, written in a style seldom, if ever,
used by literary men of the present day. 'I am
told (vol. ii. p. 340):—
" That a fiendish squint certainly must have directed
the pen which could communicate such rotten stuff to a
respectable public reservoir of intelligence ! The only
man who could have contradicted this story concerning
the box and glass was Sir James Stuart-Menteth, and he
died on 27th Feb., 1870. Dead men tell no tales. How
has this rummager among broken glass reserved his
communication till the precise time when it might be
uttered without chance of contradiction1?"
Passing over this strange rhapsody of abuse
without further comment than merely expressing
my surprise that Mr. Scott Douglas should have
thought it worthy of being inserted in his work —
a work which I consider to be a valuable contribu-
tion to the illustration of the poems of Burns — I have
been induced to examine a little more minutely
the proofs, that are at present within my reach, of
Burns having desecrated his high poetical talent
by such ribbald verses as those that he is said to
have scribbled on the panes of glass in Brownhill
Inn. I am sorry to say that there can be no doubt
of the correctness of the statement. No one would
have rejoiced more than I would have done if it
could have been shown that it was an unjust libel
on his character, and I would at once have ex-
pressed regret at having given credit to it. I have
communicated with my old friend and schoolfellow,
Charles Granville Stuart-Menteth, Esq., as to his
early recollections respecting these panes, which
were retained for many years in Closeburn Hall,
his father's residence, and he writes to the follow-
ing effect : —
" Perhaps some forty years or more since, I have
heard my Father allude generally to the fact that Burns
had scratched with a flint or diamond some very in-
decent verses on one of the windows of Brownhill."
The habitual absence of Mr. C. G. Stuart-
Menteth from the district for many years may be
given as a reason why he does not possess more
particular information.
Knowing that the late William Coltart was
wood-forester and cartwright to Sir Charles, and.
thinking that his son, a most respectable in-
habitant of Closeburn, and who has never lived
out of the parish, might be acquainted with some
acts respecting the panes, I made inquiry of him.
He writes to this effect : —
"The panes of glass were taken out of Brownhill
window, by the orders of Sir Charles, by my father, who
employed William Maxwell, his apprentice, and after-
wards married to my sister, to remove them. All the
lanes were taken out on which there was any writing by
Burns. This was after the death of Bacon, who occupied
the house in the time of Burns, and who died in 1824."
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5lhS. I. MAR. 21, 74.
Mr. Coltart adds, " I remember seeing the panes
often." He, at the same time, furnishes me with
a specimen, not of the verses -written on the panes,
but of six lines found scribbled, in the hand-
writing of Burns, on the door of an outhouse
belonging to the inn. They are epigrammatic,
but too coarse for your pages. I am, therefore,
satisfied that these panes did exist, and were so
used by Burns. How they were destroyed by Sir
James, who was thus only carrying out more com-
pletely his father's intentions, I have already stated
on the authority of Sir James himself.
When Mr. McKie paid me a visit, a few months
ago, I was not then aware, nor, indeed, was I
aware till within the last ten days, that either he
or Mr. Scott Douglas had any misgivings on the
subject. I should otherwise have had some con-
versation with him in regard to it. I sent a young
friend to show him the spots immortalized by
Burns in Closeburn ; and, among other places, he
would visit Brownhill. The present occupants
have only recently entered the farm (it is no longer
an inn), so that I know not what information they
were able to furnish him, but he has now an
opportunity of telling us what he learned with
respect to these panes. C. T. KAMAGE.
SIR DAVID LYNDSAY (5th S. i. 108, 136.)— It
would appear that some critics (including- the late
Sir W. Scott and W. A. C., Glasgow) have not
been dealing fairly with the late Mr. George
Chalmers, who ought ever to be respectfully
remembered, in assuming that he interpreted the
line referred to in the " Complaynt " as they allege
he did. He, however, did not mean, or, at least,
there is not the least evidence that he meant, that
it was the king-child (James V.) who played " pa,
da, lyn" upon the lute. Let it be supposed only
that his interpretation was "play, David Lyndsay,
upon the lute," what is wrong in sense in this, or
even in the punctuation adopted in his edition
(a semicolon after lute, at the end of the line),
which, by Scott, was challenged (note 2, Y., to
Marmion) 1 If the King requested David Lyndsay
to play, that must have had reference to some
musical instrument on which he was wont to hear
Lyndsay perform. That would seem to have been
a lute ; consequently, in the King saying, " play,
David Lyndsay," he, at least, meant a lute, if he
did not also lisp the name.
But while Scott's interpretation of " pa, da, lyn':
=" whare 's David Lyndsay," has been generally
rejected, the other of " play, David Lyndsay" has
not been uniformly received as correct ; for in a
late edition of Lyndsay's Works (2 vols., sm. 8vo.,
1871, Paterson), the editor, J)r. David Laing, oi
Edinburgh, reads "Pa" as Papa (vol. i., notes,
p. 358) ; and by inserting a comma after " lyn,'
and no point after " lute," at the end of the line.
he denotes his idea that the sense and sentence
were complete with " lyn." In my view, the
difference in meaning will not be material whether
.he sense be held as complete with " lyn," or with
' lute." L.
BIRDS OF ILL OMEN (4th S. xii. 327, 394 ; 5th
S. i. 138.) — The crow, or raven, has always, in
Scotland, been considered a bird of ill omen : —
" Yestre'en I was working my stocking,
And you wi' your sheep on the hill,
A filthy black corby sat croaking —
I 'm sure it foreboded some ill."
Ballad, circa 1804-5.
In Scotland this was wont to be called " the
Drooping Corbie." The following is told of David
Ferguson, one of the early reformers, and minister
at Dunfermline : —
" At St. Andrews he met, along with other ministers-
of the Church, in order to protest against the installation
of Patrick Adamson as bishop of that See. On that
occasion a person came in and reported that there was a
corbie croopiri on the kirk ! ' That 's a bad omen,' said
Ferguson, ' for inauguration is from avium garritu ; the
raven is omnimodo, a Hack bird, and therefore ominous ;
and if we read rightly what it speaks, it will be found to
be Corrupt! Corrupt!! Corrupt!!!'" — See Sketches of
Scotch Church History, M'Crie, vol. i. 118.
Ferguson was a man of infinite humour ; Adam-
son was a coward, as his recantation of Episcopacy
showed. JAMES HOGG.
Stirling.
RICHARD WEST, CHANCELLOR OF IRELAND (4th
S. xi. 462 ; xii. 14, 94.)— In addition to the fact
that Eichard West was member for Bodmin in
1722, it may be of interest to state that in the
previous Parliament he represented Grampound.
In the Parliamentary Register (Lond., 12mo.,
1741) the members for Grampound elected in 1714
are said to have been the Hon. John West and Sir
Kichard Cook, Knt.; that the latter member died,
and was replaced by Richard West, so that in
1721 the two members were John West and
Richard West. This John West appears to have
been Colonel West, the first Earl De la Warr,
na. 1691; and in the absence of any distinct
evidence as to the Chancellor's family, the fact
that Richard West first entered Parliament as the
colleague of the Hon. John West is suggestive of
some family connexion. It is probable that the
same influence which secured the return of John
West was exerted in favour of Richard.
EDWARD SOLLY.
" So SCENTED THE GRIM FEATURE " (4th S. xiL
passim; 5th S. i. 52.)— Read "faitour," and the
poet's meaning is obvious. Death, the Grim
Gentleman, is a malefactor or mal-faiteur, scenting
his victim from afar. T. B. WILMSHURST.
" THE WAY OUT " (5th S. i. 26,' 76.)— The legend
I have often heard, connecting the Spaskoi Vorota
at Moscow with Napoleon's occupation is, that the
5th S. I. MAR. 21, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
237
fire, which then raged in the city, approached the
walls of the Kremlin at this point, but was so
effectually repulsed by the miraculous image that
they were totally uninjured, and never again as-
sailed by the fire. Thus the image and the gate
acquired at that time a fresh claim to the venera-
tion of all patriotic Russians. B. Y. H.
WOMEN IN CHURCH (4th S. xi. passim ; xii. 38,
99, 179.)— Under the head " Earliest Mention of
Pews" I came across the following quotation from
Piers Ploughman, which seems to indicate a
separation of sexes : —
" Among wyves and wodewes ich am y woned sute
Yharroked in puws. The person hit knoweth."
I have forgotten the source.
G. LAURENCE GOMME.
BIBLIOGRAPHY OF UTOPIAS (4th S. xi. 519 ; xii.
2, 22, 41, 55, 62, 91, 153, 199, 293 ; 5* S. i. 78.)
— I do not see among the works of fictional voyages
named by your correspondents —
" An Account of an Expedition to the Interior of New
Holland. Edited by Lady Mary Fox. London : Richard
Bentley. 1837." '
This book is very entertainingly written, and in
style and matter above the average of such compo-
sitions. I can find no notice of it in either Brunet
or Lowndes. MARCUS CLARKE.
The Public Library, Melbourne.
"LIKE" AS A CONJUNCTION (5th S. i. 67, 116,
157, 176.) — It will be found on reference to my
former remarks that, except in such faulty ex-
pressions as " like he did," I quite agree with MR.
TEW in considering " like " to be an adjective, and
that of its use as a conjunction I have spoken as
being apparent only. I may add that, in such
phrases as " an eye like Mars," the principle which
I asserted, that a comparison is made of a part
with the whole, is confirmed by the following from
Aristophanes, which I have just come across : —
o)S
(Ach. 789.)
W. B. C.
KING OF ARMS v. KINO AT ARMS (5th S. i. 50,
135.) — Surely, in regard to this, one form of expres-
sion is quite as correct as the other. The latter
seems to be far more general, and is used by Sir
Walter Scott in Marmion : —
" Still is thy name in high account,
And still thy verse has charms,
Sir David Lindesay of the Mount,
Lord Lion King-at-Arms ! "
Canto iv. stanza 7.
JOHN PICKFORD, M.A.
Newbourne Rectory, Woodbridge.
I am pretty confident I have seen, on the title-
page of a very early edition of one of his works,
" by Sir David Lindsay, Lord Lyon King at
Arms." ELLCEE.
Craven.
DR. ISAAC BARROW, MASTER OF TRINITY (5th
S. i. 69, 196.) — Although H. T. does not supply
the information asked for, viz., the pedigree of
Dr. Barrow's connexions from 1650 to 1750, yet
his answer is useful. I should be much obliged if
he could favour me with the dates of any registers,
or of any circumstance whatever belonging to any
branch of the family, and should be thankful to
take care of and return any papers addressed to
me. The editorial note is quite correct. The
Bishop of St. Asaph was uncle to the Master of
Trinity, and belonged to a very old Suffolk family.
The Barrows of Chester have not, I believe, been
connected with the Suffolk branch for very many
generations. I should be glad to find they have
been connected, or that H. T. can discover the
name of Isaac previous to Dr. Barrow's time. The
pedigrees of the Chester, Suffolk, Gloster, and
Kent branches have been carefully preserved.
G. F. B.
REV. E. GEE (4th S. xii. 439, 501 ; 5th S. i. 16,
138.) — Of the work published with an Introduction
to some Animadversions by Edward Gee, Lond.,
1690, the original title is as follows : —
"A Memorial of the Reformation of England; con-
taining certain Notes & Advertisements which seem
might be proposed in the first Parliament & National
Council of our Country after God, of his mercy, shall
restore it to the Catholick Faith, for the better Estab-
lishment & Preservation of the said Religion. Gathered
& set down by R.[obert] P. [arsons] 1596." "A book
which never saw the light till of late years; it had slept
in Flanders from 1588, being first adapted (as 'tis sup-
posed) for that Invasion," &c. (Dodd, The Secret Policy
of the English Society of Jesus.)
This is appended to his History of the English
College at Douay, 1713.
BlBLIOTHECAR. CHETHAM.
"LET HIM NEVER," &c. (5th S. i. 207.)—
" Life's night begins ; let him never come back to us ! "
Browning, The Lost Leader.
M. L.
CENTAURY (4th S. xii. 407, 520 ; 5th S. i. 54.)—
I am much obliged to MR. NASH for his kind re-
searches on this subject. The plant, however, to
which I alluded, belonged certainly not to the
Gentianacse, but to the Composite, and it was a
freshly gathered specimen which the botanist of
whom I wrote (the well-known and highly respected
Dr. P of Beyrout) held in his hand when he
made the observation quoted before.
Since my previous letter, I have been able com-
pletely to identify the species, from a plate in
Pratt's Flowering Plants of Great Britain, repre-
senting the star thistle, Centaurea calcitrapa, with
its formidable spined involucre, of which the writer
says : —
" It is very unlike any other of our wild flowers in the
spreading long thorns of its flower-cup, which are at
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[5th S. I. MAR. 21,74.
first green, but which become afterwards very hard and
woody, and as strong and sharp as the thorns on a May-
bush, and large enough to attract the attention of the
most casual observer. This appendage to the scales of
the involucre procured for the plant its specific name,
for it much resembles the implement used in ancient
warfare, and called Caltrop, which was an iron ball*
set with iron spikes, and which, being thrown beneath
the feet of horses, cruelly wounded these animals as they
pressed onwards."
I have several dried specimens of the Syrian
species, which I brought home, and which, in
general appearance, correspond entirely with the
above description. May I be allowed to suggest
a possible, reference to this plant in the 9th chapter
of Acts, concluding part of verse 5 1 It is not
long since I heard an eloquent preacher, speaking of
the conversion of St. Paul, say words to this effect,
that Paul, (hitherto the triumphant and iron-
handed persecutor) now lay " kicking against the
pricks," that is, the rough and thorny vegetation
of the ground whereon he grovelled.
It was as I "journeyed near Damascus" that I
especially noticed the profuse growth of what I
now know to have been the Centaurea calcitrapa,
just showing for bloom, with its long spines (then
early in May) of yet tender growth, though by the
end of the month they had acquired sufficient
hardness and sharpness to necessitate a thick leather
glove on the hand of the collector. C. L.
The following receipts from Thomas Lupton's A
Thousand Notable, Things, 1627, speak of the
medicinal properties of this herb: —
" Drink the juice of Centory, once every morning,
foure days together, and it will make thee to sing cleare
and speake with a good voice. It clensetli the brest
marvellously. Often proved."
" For all the evils of the stomach and for them that
cannot eate : Take an hearbe called Centory, and seethe
it well in stale Ale, and when it is well sodden, then
stampe it, after that seethe it againe fli the same Ale,
let there be two handfuls of Centory, to three quartes of
Ale, and let them seethe as it before said, to pintes,
then put thereto one pinte of pure Honny, and boyle them
together, and keepe it in some cleane vessell, and give
to the party grieved, three sponefuls thereof fasting
every day, till hee bee whole and well ; for it drives away
all the fleame and corruption from the stomach, and
makes him have a great desire to his meate within foure
or five dayes. Of ten proved."
Theophrastus, in his History of Plants, as ren-
dered into Latin by Gaza, 1552, when speaking of
the fertility of certain herbs according to their
situation, says : —
" Quemadmodum Centaurium in Elio agro foecundum,
quod montuosis editur ; infcecundum, quod planis flosculo
tantum gaudens ; quod concanis, ne floret quidem, nisi
improbe."
J. CHARLES Cox.
Hazelwood, Helper.
CHARLES OWEN OF WARRINGTON (1st S. viii.
492 ; 5th S. i. 90, 157.)— From a paragraph in
" Lancashire : its Puritanism and Nonconformity,
by Kobert Halley, D.D., vol. ii. pp. 321-2, 8vo.
Lond., 1869," I find that Dr. Charles Owen's
funeral sermon was preached at Warrington,
Feb. 23, 1745-6, by the Eev. J. Owen of Roch-
dale (his nephew ?), entitled " The Christian's
Conflict and Crown." It was advertised in the
Gentleman's Magazine for June, 1746.
W. H. ALLNUTT.
Bodleian Library, Oxford.
INNOCENTS' DAY : MUFFLED PEALS (5th S. i. 8,
44, 58, 158.) — A muffled peal is always rung on
the bells on this day at Dursley, Gloucestershire.
FAMA.
Oxford.
Also on the bells of Magdalen College, Oxford.
J. B. B.
Oxford.
At Bourton-on-the- Water I learned, the other
day, that it had been always the custom to ring a
muffled peal on the morning of Holy Innocents'
at 6 A.M. until last year, when it was suspended,
owing to the death of the late rector.
DAVID EOYCE.
* Still, I believe, used by Indian tribes in warfare.
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parsing, punctuation, and translation of that language.
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from self-helps. To such persons this book will be a
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Calendar of the Carew Manuscripts, preserved in the
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light on the past history of Ireland, we select a passage
from some notes made by Sir John Davis, on the ex-
pediency of holding parliaments in Ireland. " To what
end should we call a parliament, if we may not pass
such good laws as may be propounded for the reformation
and settling of this commonweal, for it is to be doubted
that the Irish, and such as are descended of English race,
of whom both the Houses of Parliament consist, being,
for the most part, Popish recusants, will distaste and
reject such Bills as shall be transmitted out of England
to be propounded here in Ireland, although they be for
the benefit of the Crown and Kingdom, which was ob-
served in the last Parliament, when the Lower House
did obstinately refuse to pass divers good Bills containing
matters of civil government, only out of a froward and
perverse affection to the State."
Lyrics from a Country Lane. By John L. Owen. Second
Edition. (London, Simpkin & Co.; Manchester, John
Heywood.)
THIS book is a Miscellany of Verse. The author has
written a great many lyrics of varied metre, subject, and
merit. In parts he soars high with impunity, but in
other places his descent is too sudden. To use his own
words, he writes "as one who deals in trifles and
sublimes." Mr. Owen is strongest, perhaps, in his long
metres. Where his language is simple, there his subjects
are most telling. The book contains some pretty spring
pastorals, summer lays, autumn lyrics, and winter idyls.
Mr. Owen modestly declines the title of " Poems " to his
book ; he is none the less poetical.
The Tichborne Case compared with Previous Impostures of
the same kind. By Joseph Brown, Esq., Q.C. (Butter-
worths.)
FROM the Messrs. Butterworth's time-honoured firm we
are accustomed to receive learned and useful books, but
seldom one so amusing as this pamphlet. Mr. Brown's
work is also useful, for it contains a rapid resume of
. cases which bear a close resemblance to the great case
just fittingly concluded. In some, history does really
seem to repeat itsejf. Most striking, too, is the fact
which impresses itself forcibly on the mind, namely,
that in addition to the innocent dupes, whose readiness
to be deluded is really a support to imposture, the
majority of the cases here chronicled would have burst
at once but for the unscrupulous and persistent rascalry
by which that majority of cases was upheld.
The A ffinity between the Hebrew Language and the Celtic.
By Thomas Stratton, M.D., Edin., R.N. Third Edi-
tion. (Edinburgh, Maclachlan & Stewart.)
To his numerous essays and papers already published
Dr. Stratton has added a most interesting comparison
between the Hebrew and the Gaelic languages. In his
vocabulary are to be found words here and there the
aifinity of which is rather strained and laid open to
criticism, but the leading argument is well maintained
throughout. The concluding brief but excellent article
on the etymological and historical sources of the Gaelic
and Hebrew tongues would bear expansion by the same
author. The etymologist will not find the omission of
the Gaelic prefix detract from a similarity in Gaelic and
Hebraic words, and he would like to find answered more
definitely the question " Are Hebrew and Celtic of equal
ntiquity 1 " Much of modern historical research is
tending towards a satisfactory solution. Dr. Stratton's
work confirms the theory of the almost universal exis-
tence of a Hebrew foundation to modern European
language, owing to the westward migration of scattered
Hebrews. The doctor has been writing on various sub-
jects for some years, and we hope he has not yet laid
aside his Hebraic or Gaelic pen.
The Junior Local Student's Guide to Latin Prose. By
R. M. Millington, M.A. Second Edition. (Ralfe
Brothers.)
THIS most useful little book has deservedly reached its
second edition. Students are provided with pieces, set
by the University delegates and syndicate for the local
examinations, to be rendered into Latin prose. The
copious notes and critical questions will be found a great
assistance to private reading, while tutors can model
some of their teaching on the exercises respecting the
interrogative particles, the sequence of tenses, and the
uses of the relative, negative, and prohibitive particles.
The book is written for junior local students, but Uni-
versity little-go men may study it with profit.
ANAGRAMS arising out of the Tichborne case are flying
about in all directions. Meanwhile, Mr. George Potter
sends us one which springs from another source : " David
Livingstone "=:D. V. Go and visit Nile. — The Bath
Gazette has collected above a score arising out of the
words "Sir Roger Charles Doughty Tichborne, Baronet."
But these are not true anagrams, letter answering to letter,
but merely sentences leaving letters to spare. " Claimant-
literature " is abounding, like the anagrams. An article
by Mr. S. R. Townshend Mayer, entitled "A Half-
Forgotten Claimant," being the curious story of Tom
Provis, the claimant of the Ashton Court estates, as told
by himself when in Gloucester Gaol, and the truth as
elicited at the trial, will appear in the April number of
the St. James's Magazine.
CAUTION TO TOURISTS. — The following comes from an
old correspondent : — " I strongly advise my countrymen
not to reside in Lausanne, unless they are prepared to
submit to police requirements and official impertinence.
The Swiss were highly jubilant when they obtained
freedom from passports in France ; but since then the
Lausanne police have been more exacting than ever, and
have been serving notices on tourists and English
residents to show their passports or pay a fine of six
francs ! This is gratitude with a vengeance ! We may
well say ' point d'argent point de Suisse.' — S. J.
" Bex, Canton de Vaud."
THE Memoirs of the Due de Saint-Simon will probably
receive a remarkable supplementary addition. In the
archives of the Minister of Foreign Affairs (Paris) there
exist numerous unpublished letters of the Duke, papers
on the embassy to Spain in 1721, historical fragments,
memoires drawn up for the Dauphin, the Duke of
Orleans, and for the King himself. When these may be
given to the public, we cannot say. Meanwhile M.
Armand Baschet has recently given a copious and
elaborate account of them in a volume of nearly 600
CAMPAKOLOGY.— Mr. T. Archer Turner writes, with
reference to the Union of Benefices Bill : — " Will some
enthusiastic bell-hunter, who has the necessary time nt
his command, preserve to posterity the inscriptions,
stamps, &c. (taking careful rubbings and casts in plaster
of Paris of all medisevals and such later stamps as may
be of interest), on the bells belonging to those fourteen
churches in the City of London, and now announced as
doomed to destruction — to ' deconsecration ' — under the
above act?"
MR. ADNITT, Shrewsbury, is reprinting the curious
old MS. of G ough. The edition previously printed by
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amusing pieces of county history, and is being copied
letter by letter from the original.
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LONDON, SATURDAY, MARCH 28, 1674.
CONTENTS. — N« 13.
NOTES :— "Man's Masterpiece," by Sir Peter Temple, Knt.—
King James I. as a Poet, 241— Burns's " Ode on the American
War/' 242.— The Life and Opinions of Padre Sarpi, also
known as Padre Paolo, of Venice, 243.— Dr. Kelly on the
Manx Article, 244 — Epitaphs— Rowlands anticipated by
Luther— Words and Phrases prevalent in Ulster, 245— Wine
in Smoke — Parallel Passages, 246.
QUERIES :— " The Holy Bible adapted " by Richard Wynne,
A.M. — Yale College : Princeton College — " Biographia
Dramatics "— " Whele "—Peter Mew, Bishop of Bath and
Wells— Peculiar Treatment of some Words in passing from
one Language to another — America, and the Antiquity of its
Name— Eccentricities of Nomenclature, 247— The Evening
Primrose — " To put his monkey up "—John Stuart Mill on
India— The Morgue— John Tobin— Shirley Family— Name of
Book Wanted— Queen Anne Square— Queen Ann's Indian
Chapel of the Onondawgvs, 248— Chevaliers of the Golden
Spur — Authors Wanted— Extraordinary Birth of Triplets,
249.
REPLIES :— Dr. Johnson and Dorothy Turton nee Hickman :
the Ford Family, 249— Vagaries of Spelling, 251— Col. Cole-
pepper — Unsettled Baronetcies, 252 — " Boss " — Swale
Family, 253 — " Album Unguentum " — Heraldic — Female
Water Carriers — The Keys of Lochleyen Castle, 254 —
"Griselda" — "That beats A kebo "—Jewish Superstition —
Shottesbrooke — "The London Chronicle" — Bene't College,
Cambridge — "A Romance of the Rood-Loft" — " Pollice
Verso"' — "Mashing" — "All women born," &c. — Rev.
Stephen Clarke, 255 — Sunflower as a Preventive of Fever —
Byron : Wycherley — "Ringleader" — " From Greenland's icy
mountains" — Welsh Testament, 256 — Catherine Pear —
Mnemonic Calendars— Double Returns to Parliament — Bere
Regis Church, 257— Mr. Lorraine Smith, 258.
Notes on Books, &c.
"MAN'S MASTERPIECE," BY SIR PETER
TEMPLE, KNT.
This book is so rare that a few words regarding it
may be worth printing. It is in size 12mo., and con-
tains on the title-page, " London, printed for Joseph
Barber at the Lamb, and Samuel Speed at the
Printing-Press in St. Paul's Churchyard. 1658."
This is followed by the Epistle Dedicatory " To
the most perfect pattern and Patronesse of Vertue
and Piety, the Lady Elianor Temple," &c., which
is signed " Your companion in armes under the
invincible banner of the >J< P. T." To this there
follow certain " Errata." After which stand three
poems " On the Effigies of the most accomplisht
Lady, Dame Elianor Temple." Then comes the
book proper, divided into six divisions, viz. : —
" 1. The Contempt of the World. 2. The Judg-
ment of God against the wicked. 3. Meditations
on Eepentance. 4. Meditations on the Holy
Supper. 5. Meditations on afflictions and Mar-
tyrdom. 6. With a Meditation of one that is sick.'
The whole book contains 252 pages. Opposite the
title in my copy is a very fine copper-plate etching,
representing a bust of Peter Temple, Knt., signed
" R. Gaywood fecit, 1658." In the corner are the
arms of Temple, quartering Lee of Quarrendon,
impaling those of Tyrrell of Thornton, co. Bucks.
Opposite the complimentary verses is a correspond-
ing etching of
The Lady
ELINOR TEMPLE.
R. Gayicood fecit 1658.
with this inscription : —
Her exact'st Portrature neerest the Life
Is Vertues Patterne, Mother, Mayd & Wife
Whose Name's her Glorious Character to bost
This liueing TEMPLE of the Holy Ghost."
The chief interest in my copy lies in the fact
that it originally belonged to the author, and con-
tains on almost every page his MS. corrections for
a second edition.
There is a copy in the British Museum, but both
the portraits are wanting. In the Bodleian copy.
I am told. Lady Temple's portrait is likewise
wanting. The perfect specimen sold at the Stowe
sale, referred to in the last edition of Lowndes,
fetched fifteen guineas. Caulfield valued the two
portraits at a considerable sum.
The following genealogical chart, from an old
family MS., may perhaps not unfittingly follow : —
Anthony Browne, Vis-=Lady Jane Radeclyffe, dr.
count Mountagu. I to the Erie of Sussex.
"I I ~1 I
Anthony=Mary, d. John Dorothy =Edmund Lee of 2 das.
Browne," of Sir
Visct. Will.
Moun- Dormer,
tagu. Kt.
Erowne. Browne.
Stanton Barry,
co. Bucks, Esqr.
of ye Lees of
Quarenden.
Sr. John Temple, =Dorothy Lee, B. at
of Stowe, co.
Bucks, Kt.
Stanton Berry.
Sr. Peter Temple of=Eleanor, eldest dr. of Sir Timothy
Stowe, Knt. [author Tyrrell of Oakley, Bucks, after-
of "Man's Master- wards m. Richard Grenvile of
piece."] Wootton, co. Bucks, Eqre.
In the year 1838, my late father was instituted'
to the vicarage of Stantonbury, which he held
until his death in 1841, and thus we became con-
nected with a parish where, during the greater
part of the seventeenth century, a younger branch
of our family, the Lees of Quarrendon, had been
lords of the manor, the failure of which branch
eventually carried the property, by the marriage
of Lady Temple, to Eichard Grenville, the Duke
of Buckingham's ancestor.
FREDERICK GEORGE LEE.
6, Lambeth Terrace.
KING JAMES I. AS A POET.
Few people, perhaps, have had patience to wade
through the prose works of this King, and fewer
still have, I am sure, struggled through his crude
and clumsy poetry. Probably few students of
English poetry have fairly grappled with James's
ponderous translation of a book of Du Bartas's
bombastic poem, toiled through his dull metrical
242
NOTES AND QUEEIES.
[5th S. I. MAR. 28, 74.
account of the battle of Lepanto, or longed for
Tate and Brady, and rapturously dwelt on Stern-
hold and Hopkins, as they wrestled with the slob-
bering monarch's version of King David's glorious
Psalms. King James's Rules and Cautelis, written
in Scotch, are no doubt infinitely more racy than the
poetry of his early youth ; but still there is a certain
interest in the royal tentatives in metre. No one, not
even the most paradoxical of critics, would contend
that the sonnets we subjoin are as graceful as Sir
Philip Sidney's, as refined as Drummond's, as
subtly beautiful as Spencer's, or as high-toned and
thoughtful as Shakspeare's ; but still they are worth
perusal, as the efforts of an amateur who had read
the best works of his time, and had conversed, no
doubt, on poetical subjects with Shakspeare him-
self:—
"HIS MAJESTIES OWNE SONNET.
" The nations banded 'gainst the Lord of Might
Prepared a force, and set them to the way ;
Mars dressed himself in such an awful plight,
The like whereof was never scene, they say ;
They forward came in monstrous aray,
Both sea and land beset us everywhere ;
Bragges threatened us a ruinous decay,
What came of that, the issue did declare.
The windes began to tosse them here and there,
The seas be»an in foaming waves to swell ;
The number that escaped, it fell them faire ;
The rest were swallowed up in gulfes of Hell ;
But how were all these things miraculous done ?
God laught at them out of his heavenly throne."
" SONNET.
" God gives not Kings the stile of Gods in vaine,
For on his throne his scepter doe they sway;
And as their subiects ought them to obey,
So Kings should ftare and serue their God againe ;
If then ye would enioy a happie raigne,
Observe the statutes of your heauenly King,
And from his Law make all your La\ves to spring;
Since his Lieutenant here ye should remaine,
Reward the iust, be stedfast, true, and plaine :
Represse the proud, maintaining aye the right;
Walke alwayes so, as euer in his sight,
Who guardes the godly, plaguing the prophane ;
And so ye shall in Princely vertues shine,
Resembling right your mightie King Diuine."
In the second sonnet we see very clear traces of
James's profound belief in the divine right of kings,
who have the " stile of Gods " and are the Deity's
lieutenants. James's exhortations to his fellow-
monarchs perhaps rather jar on our ears when we re-
member how he snatched the poisoning Countess of
Somerset from the gallows ; and his notion of " re-
warding the just" seems a contradiction in a King
who sent Raleigh to the scaffold and persecuted
Lord Bacon. Anything feebler than the first sonnet
(probably on the Armada) can scarcely be well
conceived. Was ever Mars before described as
"dressed in such an awful plight"? Who is
" Bragges " who threatened England with a ruinous
decay ? Did ever bathic bard dive lower than in
the wonderful line,
" What came of that, the issue did declare "1
or did ever sonnet end with a weaker diapason
than the execrable lines —
" But how were all these things miraculous done ?
God laught at them out of his heavenly throne."?
WALTER THORNBURT.
5, Furnival's Inn.
BURNS'S "ODE ON THE AMERICAN WAR."
At the sale of " Bibliotheca Geographica et
Historica," by Henry Stevens, Messrs. Puttick &
Simpson, London, 19th to 29th November, 1872,
I had purchased for me the following item : —
" 515. Burns (Robert). The original autograph Manu-
script of the Ode on the American War, in 62 lines, in
3 leaves, written on one side only ; in good condition,
bound in red morocco cover by Pratt, and lettered, " The
American War. By Robert Burns."
I think this Ode is unpublished, with the excep-
tion of the last stanza, and that with some varia-
tions ; at least, that is the only portion I can find in
any edition of his works I have examined. It may
have been suppressed on account of its disloyalty.
As it may be of some interest to your readers, I
here copy it entire : —
" ODE.
" No Spartan tube, no Attic shell,
No lyre Eolian I awake ;
'Tis Liberty's bold note I swell,
Thy harp, Columbia, let me take.
See gathering thousands, while I sing,
A broken chain, exulting, bring,
And dash it in a tyrant's face !
And dare him to his very beard,
And tell him he no more is feared,
No more the Despot of Columbia's race.
A tyrant's proudest insults braved,
They shout, a People freed ! They hail an Empire saved.
Where is Man's godlike form]
Where is that brow erect and bold,
That eye that can, unmoved, behold
The wildest rage, the loudest storm,
That e'er created fury dared to raise !
Avaunt ! thou caitiff, servile, base,
That tremblest at a Despot's nod,
Yet, crouching under th' iron rod,
Canst laud the arm that struck th' insulting blow !
Art thou of man's imperial line ?
Dost boast that countenance divine 1
Each sculking feature answers No !
But come, ye sons of Liberty,
Columbia's offspring, brave as free.
In danger's hour still flaming in the van ;
Ye know, and dare maintain, The Royalty of Man.
Alfred, on thy starry throne,
Surrounded by the tuneful choir,
The Bards that erst have struck the patriot lyre,
And roused the freeborn Briton's soul of fire,
No more thy England own.
Dare injured nations form the great design,
To make detested tyrants bleed ]
Thy England execrates the glorious deed !
Beneath her hostile banners waving,
Every pang of honor braving,
England in thunder calls — ' The tyrant's cause is mine !'
That hour accurst, how did the fiends rejoice,
And hell thro' all her confines raise th' exulting voice;
5th S. I. MAR. 28, 74.]
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243
That hour which saw the generous English name
Liukt with such damned deeds of everlasting shame !
Thee, Caledonia, thy wild heaths among,
Famed for the martial deed, the heaven-taught song,
To thee I turn with swimming eyes.
Where is that soul of Freedom fled ?
Immingled with the mighty dead !
Beneath that hallowed turf where Wallace lies !
Hear it not, Wallace, in thy bed of death !
Ye babbling winds in silence sweep ;
Disturb not ye the hero's sleep,
Nor give the coward secret breath.
Is this the ancient Caledonian form,
Firm as her rock, resistless as her storm ?
Shew me that eye which shot immortal hate,
Blasting the Despot's proudest bearing ;
Shew me that arm which nerved with thundering fate,
Braved Usurpation's boldest daring !
Dark-quenched as yonder sinking star,
No more that glance lightens afar ;
That palsied arm no more whirls on the waste of war."
The last stanza was included in a letter to Mrs.
Dunlop, dated from Castle Douglas, 25th June,
1794. Of it he writes to her :—
" I am just going to trouble your critical patience with
the first sketch of a stanza I have been framing as I
passed along the road. The subject is Liberty: you
know, my honored friend, how dear the theme is to me.
I design it as an irregular ode for Gen. Washington's
birthday. After having mentioned the degeneracy of
other kingdoms, I come to Scotland, thus : —
Thee, Caledonia, thy wild heaths among,
Thee, famed for martial deed, and sacred song,
To thee I turn with swimming eyes.
Where is that soul of freedom fled ?
Immingled with the mighty dead,
Beneath the hallowed turf where Wallace lies !
Hear it not, AVallace, in thy bed of death,
Ye babbling winds, in silence sweep,
Disturb ye not the hero's sleep.
Nor give the coward secret breath.
Is this the power in freedom's war,
That wont to bid the battle rage?
With the additions of—
Behold that eye which shot immortal hate,
Braved usurpation's boldest daring ;
That arm which, nerved with thundering fate,
Crushed the despot's proudest bearing ;
One quenched in darkness like the sinking star,
And one the palsied arm of tottering, powerless age."
Chambers's Burns, vol. iv. p. 74.
ROBERT CLARKE.
Cincinnati, Ohio, U.S.A.
THE LIFE AND OPINIONS OF PADREJ SARPI,
ALSO KNOWN AS PADRE PAOLO, OF VENICE.
(Concluded from page 225 .)
I will now give the terms on which the quarrel
was appeased, through the mediation of Henry IV.
of France, who employed the Cardinal de Joyeuse
to negociate the arrangement. The author, from
whom I have already quoted, states : —
" Now Cardinall Joyeuse departed from Rome with
Commission and Articles, and arrived at Venice, where
hee was honorably received and entertained, many
Senators going to meet him in the Bucentaure. Then
the next day, beeing the twentith of Aprill, one of the
States Secretaries, accompanied with the Captaine and
other Officers of the prison, and for greater solemnity,
with a publick Notary, brought the two prisoners to the
house of the Sieur de Fresne, Ambassador to the French
King, and delivered them to him, as granted to the Pope
at the intreaty of the King his master, without pre-
judice to the States jurisdiction in such like cases, and
the French Ambassador did presently consigne them into
the hands of the Cardinall Joyeuse who was in the same
house, in the presence of the Secretary, with these words,
These are the prisoners which the Signori hath granted to
hit Holinesse, not adding at whose entreaty, and so the
Cardinall received them as the Popes prisoners ; where-
unto the Secretary at that time made no reply : In this
manner by this omission on the one part, and silence on
the other, it seemeth that some doubt, not well under-
stood, remayned betwixt the Pope and Signori, which
nevertheless holds it honor preserved by the forme of the
Consignation inregestred by a publick Notary : and the
Cardinall supposeth that the Pope ought to rest satisfied
with the words of the Sieur de Fresne, or rather with
his casuall or voluntary omission. Then the next morn-
ing, which was the day appointed by the Senate, the
Cardinall comming to the colledge, after some circum-
stances of the Popes fatherly goodnesse, did assure them
that the censures were revoked, and having given them
his blessing went to celebrate masse in the Patriarkes
Church. The Dukes first declaration was likewise re-
voked in this manner. Leonardo Donato by the grace of
God Duke of Venice, &c. To the reverend Patriarkes
Archbishops, and Bishops of our State and jurisdiction
of Venice, and to the Vickars, Abbots, Priors, Rectm s of
parrish Churches, and all other Ecclesiastical Prelate?,
greeting. Seeing it hath pleased our good God to finde
out a way whereby our holy Father Pope Paul the Fifth
hath beene daylie informed as well of our good meaning,
as integrity of our actions and reverence which wee beare
to the Sea of Rome, and thereby to take away all cause
of strife, Wee, as wee have desired and procured unity,
and good correspondence with the said Sea, of which wee
are loving and obedient children, receive likewise this
contentation, to have at last obtained the accomplish-
ment of our holy desire.
" Therefore we thought good by our declaration to
advertise you here of, giving you besides to understand,
that whatsoever did belong hereunto, having been faith-
fully performed on both parts, and the censures and
interdiction removed; the protestation likewise, which
we made against them, hath been and is revoked: we
being desirous that herein, and in all other our actions,
the piety and religion of our State may still more and,
more appeare, the which we will carefully observe, as
our Predecessors have ever done. Given in our Ducall
pallace the one and twentith of Aprill 1607. Signed
Marco Ottolon Secretary.
" The Duke having published this declaration, and by
delivery of the prisoners satisfied for his part the con-
ditions mentioned in the accord, the Senate was perplext,
with a doubt of no meane consequence, which was, that
the Pope for his part having made no mention at all
concerning bookes and writings, published in behalfe of
the said decrees, nor of the authors of the said bookes,
which are two very important points, and which did
wholly seeme to breake of this reconciliation, the state
doubting that the Pope by this silence and omission had
intent to proceed afterwards against the authors of the
said bookes by the ordinary way of Ecclesiastical justice :
and thinking it a matter against all reason to abandon
those that had done them such good and faithfull service,
after mature consultation, the Senate made a very notable
and honorable decree that the Signory should protect
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5th S. I. MAE. 28, 74.
them against all men, and assigne them a perpetuall
pention. In this manner is the Commonwealth by God's
goodnesse, and revocation of the censures, restored to
her former ancient peace and glory/'
This was early in 1607. It is probable that
this decree was passed principally to enable the
Venetians to protect and reward Sarpi. Events
soon proved that the hatred of the Court of Rome
against him had not abated, although it does not
seem to have been encouraged by Paul V. But
Maffeo Barberini, created Cardinal in 1606, and
afterwards Urban VIII., was Sarpi's avowed enemy.
Six months after the reconciliation of Paul V.
and the Venetians, Sarpi was returning, on the
5th of October, at about sunset, to his Convento
da S. Marco a Santa Fosca, when he was attacked
by an assassin, who had four companions, and was
wounded twice in the neck, and a third time by
the point of the stiletto entering at the right ear
and coming out at the nose, where it remained so
firmly fixed that the assassin could not withdraw
it. Owing to warnings he had received from Car-
dinal Bellarmin and other friends, for three months
previously Sarpi had never walked through the
streets unless when accompanied by three persons ;
but at the moment he was attacked, two had left
him for a short time, before he arrived at the
" Convento," to visit the ruins of a fire. They had
hardly done so, when one of the assassins seized
Sarpi's attendant, and held him firmly embraced.
A second assassin attacked Sarpi, while three
others pointed their arquebuses down the street
along which assistance might come. The assassin,
named Bidolfo Poma, made fifteen stabs at Sarpi,
three of which told. Attracted by the screams of
a woman, who from a window saw the attack,
several persons ran towards the spot ; but the
streets being crowded a little further on, owing to
the performance of a new opera, the assassins
reached a gondola they had ready, and escaped in
it to the house of the Papal Nuncio, resident in
Venice. There they had a boat, with ten rowers
well armed, waiting for them, and they started at
once for Eavenna or Ferrara. Upon arriving at
Home, they were well paid, and openly boasted of
what they had done ; but they became so insolent,
that at last orders were given to drive them from
the city.
Sarpi was carried bleeding to his " Convento,"
and, after being in great danger, recovered from
his wounds. The senate broke up its sitting when
the news reached it, and the Council of Ten went
the same night to the " Convento." Decrees were
passed by the Senate, offering a large reward to
any one who would, at any time, give information
of any intended attempt upon Sarpi's life. The
Senate gave a gold medal to Acquapendente, the
surgeon who attended him, settled an additional
pension on Sarpi, and built a private staircase at
his " Convento," that he might embark from it to
attend the Senate without passing through the
streets. From the time he recovered until his
death, which took place in his seventy-first year,
on the Sunday after Christinas Day of 1622,
Sarpi was incessantly employed in his various
duties at Venice, where he may be said to have
been under the protection of the whole people, so
much was he respected.
Sarpi was in person tall, and remarkably thin.
His features were regular, the forehead broad, and
the complexion fair. The expression of his face
was rnild, yet cheerful.
In despite of weakness, which gradually in-
creased, he followed his usual course of life until
the Saturday, the day before he died, which he
passed in bed. The Senate, hearing that he was
dying, sent late on the Saturday evening to ask
his opinion on some important matter ; and, al-
though he was unable to write, he dictated it with
the greatest clearness.
His remaining hours were spent in prayer, or
conversation with his friend Fra Fulgentio, in
which his usual cheerfulness remained to the last.
For noticing, early on the Sunday morning, that
the former was tired, Sarpi begged Fulgentio to
embrace him, and when he had done so, said :
" Horsit, non restate piu a vcdermi in questo stato,
non e dovere. Andate a dormire, ed io n'andarb
a Dio, d'onde siamo venuti."
Fra Fulgentio, seeing that Sarpi was dying,
called the friars to assemble round his bed ; and
the one who was nearest to the head of it heard
Sarpi, the moment before he died, say, in a low
voice, " Esto Perpetua."
Thus died this good, learned, and able man,
whose last words were for Venice, that he had
loved so well and served so faithfully.
EALPH N. JAMES, F.R.H.S.
Ashford, Kent.
DR. KELLY our THE MANX ARTICLE.— As there
is no probability of the Manx Society ever having
another edition of their series of works, it may be
well permanently to record in "N. & Q." the
following conflicting statements. In his Maulcs
Grammar, Manx Society, Douglas, 1859 ; London,
1870, Dr. Kelly says, on p. 86 :—
" Proper names have not the article set before theuj,
because they do of themselves, individually or par-
ticularly, distinguish the things or persons of which one
speaks. So likewise the names of countries, cities, rivers,
&c., having no article set before them, except these four
— Yn Spainey, Spain ; yn Rank, France ; yn Raue,
Rome ; yn lhalloo Bretnagh, Wales ; also N'erin, Ire-
land ; and N'alpin, Scotland, have the adventitious n,
or article yn, before them."
The same author, in his Manse Dictionary, Manx
Society, Douglas, 1866, says, under " Y":— -
" The proper names of places generally require these
articles — y and yn— to be prefixed ; as yn Spainey, yn
Rank ; Spain. France."
5th S. I. MAE. 28, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
Under " Kiare-as-feed," he says : —
" KIAKE-AS-FEED, The keys or parliament of the Island
are so called from their number, as they consist of
twenty-four persons. But as it is used as a proper name
in conversation, it has, therefore, the article prefixed ;
as yn-chiare-as-feed. "
And under Nerin, he says : —
" NERIN, pr. n. Ireland, or the western island. All
proper names have the article prefixed ; this is, therefore,
a contraction of yn Erin."
As nothing can be more diametrically opposite
than The Grammar — " Proper names have not the
articles set before them," versus "All proper names
have the article prefixed" — The Dictionary, — it is
•one of those matters for which the pages of
*' N. & Q." are so well calculated to ensure the
proper attention of all parties interested in their
explanation or rectification, and I trust to see its
requisite adjustment. J. BEALE.
MARSHAL MASSENA, Due DE KIVOLI, PRINCE
OF ESSLING (" L'Enfant Ch4ri de la Victoire ").—
It has been generally considered that Massena,
together with many other men and women of shin-
ing talent and ability, was of Hebrew descent.
Disraeli in his Coningsby, for example, says " Mas-
sena was a Hebrew ; his real name was Manasseh "
(Coningsby, ii. 203) ; and probably his avarice and
money-grubbing propensities might have given rise
to this supposition, although in this respect he was
not worse than Augereau, Davoust, and many
other of Napoleon's Marshals. He is also said to
be of plebeian birth, because he originally served
in the ranks of the Sardinian army. From the
record of his baptism at Nice, which I give below,
he appears to be descended from, not only Christian,
but noble parents : —
"Nizza, parochia di Santa Reparata— Alii 8 Maggio,
1758. Andrea Massena figlio del Nobile Giulio e di
€aterina Fabre, sato li sei correnti battezato da
me Ignasio Caciardi, Can0 Coade II padrino II nob.
Andrea Deporta, e la Madrina la Nob. Cattarina
Massena."
H. HALL.
Lavender Hill.
EPITAPHS.— 1. Churchyard of St. George, Tiver-
ton: —
" Near this place lyeth the body of Ann Clark of this
town, Midwife, who departed this life the 12th day of
January, 1733, Aged 77 years.
Memento Mori.
On harmless babes I did attend
Whilst I on earth my life did spend,
To help the helpless in their need,
I ready was with care and speed,
Many from Pain my hands did free,
But none from death could rescue me,
My glass is run, my hower is past,
And yours is coming all so fast.
John Brailey was the first child she received into the
•world in 1698, and since above Five Thousand. William
Davey, P."
2. At Dulverton, Somerset : —
" Neglected by his doctor,
111 treated by his nurse,
His brother robbed the widow,
Which makes it all the worse."
J. C. CLOUGH.
Tiverton.
ROWLANDS ANTICIPATED BY LUTHER. — I
pointed out in " N. & Q." (4th S. xi. 401) that
one of Dean Ramsay's stories was substantially to
be found in Rowlands's Night Raven, 1620. I
shall show in this note that Rowlands, in his
turn, has been anticipated in the substance of one
of his epigrams. In Luther's Table Talk, which
first appeared in 1566, we have the following story
(Hazlitt's Translation, Bohn, 1857, p. 365): —
"A student of Erfurt, desiring to see Nuremberg,
departed with a friend on a journey thither. Before
they had walked half-a-mile, he asked his companion
whether they should soon pet to Nuremberg, and was
answered : ' 'Tis scarce likely, since we have only just
left Erfurt.' Having repeated the question, another half
mile further on, and getting the same answer, he said :
'Let's give up the journey, and go back, since the world
is so vast ! '"
Rowknds, in his Hvmors Looking Glasse, 1608,
has this epigram. (Hunterian Club reprint, p. 13):
" EPIGRAM.
" A lolly fellow Essex borne and bred,
A Farmers Sonne, his Father being dead,
T' expell his griefe and melancholly passions,
Had vowed himselfe to trauell and see fashions.
His great mindes object was no trifling toy,
But to put downe the wandring Prince of Troy.
Londons discouerie first he doth decide,
His man must be his Pilot and his guide.
Three miles he had not past, there he must sit :
He ask't if he were not neere London yet?
His man replies good Sir your selfe besturre,
For we haue yet to go sixe times as farre.
Alas I had rather stay at home and digge,
I had not thought the worlde was halfe so bigge.
Thus this great worthie comes backe (thoewith strife)
He neuer was so farre in all his life.
None of the seauen worthies : on his behalfe,
Say, was not he a worthie Essex Calfe 1 "
S.
WORDS AND PHRASES PREVALENT IN ULSTER.
— One of the most remarkable to strangers is
allow, used for advise. I strange is said for I
wonder ; to discharge for to forbid ; frail for in-
firm ; bedrill for a bedridden person ; disremember
=forget ; to loose is pronounced to lowse ; and to
lose is called to loss (loose, adj.— louse). An alder
is called an elder, and an elder a boortrce, probably
from the bore, or hollow, in its young branches.
A freet is used for a charm or something magical.
A calf is called a calve. Frost, or snow, even
without wind, is called a storm. To recollect is
pronounced re-collect. The people say " From I
came," " to I went." A picturesque word common
in Ulster for evening twilight is dayligoan=d&j-
light going. A shed is called a shade.
" BEDDY.'' — Among the peculiar words of the
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5th S. I. MAR. 28, 74.
Ulster people (most of which are probably common
in Scotland), one of the strangest to me is " beddy,'
applied to conceited and self-sufficient persons. ]
am at a loss to know the origin of it. S. T. P.
WINE IN SMOKE. —
" Hie dies anno redeunte festus
Corticem adstrictum pice dimovebit
Amphorae fumum bibere institute
Consule Tullo."
Hor. Carm. iii. 8.
It was a custom with the Komans, as alluded to
in this verse, to store their amphorw in an apart-
ment at the top of the house, to which the smoke,
and consequently the warmth, of the bath-room
had access, in order to ripen the wine and improve
its flavour. Does not this practice throw some
light on the following passage in Scripture, the
meaning of which is otherwise somewhat obscure :
" For I am become like a bottle in the smoke, yet
do I not forget thy statutes," Ps. cxix. 83. The
Komans, probably, adopted the usage of subjecting
their wine to the action of smoke, as they did
many of their luxurious habits, from the East.
Keble, in his beautiful poetical version of the
Psalms, in rendering this verse, seems to have
caught more nearly the feeling and true sense of
the original Hebrew than is expressed in the
Authorized translation : —
" As wine-skin in the smoke
My heart is sere and dried,
My wither'd heart : yet deeply there
Thy statutes, Lord, abide."
The passage in question seems to have considerably
exercised the learned Venema, who, in remarking
on it, in his Commentarius ad Psalmas, vol. vi.
p. 210, being completely puzzled as to its meaning,
has recourse to the expedient of putting the smoke
inside the bottle : —
" Significat, tempus adflictionis suse jam diu durasse,
et hostes suos diu mansisse impunitos, indeque ortum
esse quod in oculis hominum factus fuerit vir omni pie-
tate et virtute cassus, seseque vana spe lactans, sta ut
instar utris sit, qui loco aquae aut vini, repletus est fumo
et vento; cum tamen legi Dei manserit semper ad fixus."
H. A. KENNEDY.
Waterloo Lodge, Reading.
PARALLEL PASSAGES, &c. — In the third act of
Shelley's Prometheus Unbound is the following
passage : —
" Think ye, by gazing on each other's eyes,
To multiply your lovely selves?"
In Little's Poems is a song or conceit where we
find a similar idea, although more coarsely ex-
pressed. We have in Moore's poem the verb
gaze, and also "in each other's eyes." The first
edition of the Prometheus was published in 1820.
Little was issued long before. But query, does
not Catullus use the same language to his Lesbia ?
Shelley's last edition, in a note (vide Hotten's
edition, p. 56), quotes a passage from a song in the
romance of St. Irvyne, to show that Shelley pla-
giarized from Byron's Hours of Idleness, the
original Nottingham edition of which was published
in 1807. Benbow's edition was issued a few years
later, but long before 1820. The note in Hotten
is perfectly conclusive. Shelley has not only stolen
an idea from Byron, but he has copied a line ver-
batim, viz. —
" The hour when man must cease to be."
Hotten's editor overlooks a still more remarkable
plagiarism from the Hours of Idleness. In Byron's
lyric Loch-na-gar, we find —
"Shades of the dead ! have I not heard your voices.
Rise on 'the night-rolling breath of the gale?
In St. Irvyne, we have
" Ghosts of the dead ! have I not heard your yelling
Rise on the night-rolling breath of the blast? "
Shelley must have had a great admiration for
Byron's youthful productions, or he would never
have retained such a strange, unmeaning compound
as " night-rolling " !
If Shelley, in the above examples, was not a
copyist, such an offence as plagiarism ought to be
blotted out of the literary criminal code, and
" All should prig who can."
A remarkable instance of plagiarism is found in
the World Before the Flood of James Mont-
gomery, or in M. G. Lewis's Oberon's Henchman,
or the Legend of the Three Sisters. In these poems
are two lines which are verbatim the same, viz. :
" He spake, and straight an earthquake heaved the
ground ;
The thunder roared, the lightning flashed around."
I cannot say who is the plagiarist here. I have
not the date of The World Before the Flood, nor
of Oberon's Henchman ; but I think that Mont-
gomery's work was published before the Romantic
Toles of Lewis, where Oberon's Henchman first
appeared.
One more instance of a plagiarism. John Ambrose
Williams, for many years the talented editor of
the Durham Chronicle, has this verse in his Elegy
on a Lonely Grave, printed in his Metrical Essays :
" Ah ! who beneath this scanty heap
Of mould with turf and weeds o'ergrown
Is laid in that unstartled sleep
The living eye hath never known ? "
The Eev. Mr. Moultrie, in one of his early
poems, printed long after the Metrical Essays
appeared, has the words that I have italicized.
Criticism has frequently pointed this out, but in
he new editions of Moultrie the beautiful phrase-
ology of Mr. Williams is not distinguished, as it
ought to be, by inverted commas.
In the Queen's Wake of Hogg is a poem,
called The Abbot Mackinnon. In the Tales of
Terror — a Jjfork erroneously ascribed to M. G.
Lewis — is a ballad called The Black Canon of
Elmham, or St. Edmond's Eve. The idea and plot
of Hogg's poem are evidently suggested by the
5th S. I. MAR. 28, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
ballad in the Tales of Terror, a work published in
1801, which was long before Hogg's poetical
appearance. STEPHEN JACKSON.
[Lewis's Semantic Tales were published in 1808.
Montgomery's World before the Flood, in 1812.]
[We must request correspondents desiring information
on family matters of only private interest, to affix their
names and addresses to their queries, in order that the
answers may be addressed to them direct.]
" THE HOLT BIBLE ADAPTED " BY EICHARD
WYNNE, A.M. — Can any of your readers give me
information concerning a work bearing the following
title ?—
" The Holy Bible, adapted to the use of schools and
private families, containing those parts of the Old and
INew Testament which relate to the Faith and Practice
of a Christian. The whole divided into Chapters and
Paragraphs, with short notes and observations. By
'.Richard Wynne, A.M., Rector of St. Alphage, London,
and Chaplain to the Kight Honourable the Earl of
Dunmore." London : Printed for J. Wilkie at No. 71,
St. Paul's Church Yard. M.DCCLXXII.
The Rev. Richard Wynne is mentioned in
Nichols's Literary Anecdotes of the Eighteenth
Century, vol. ix. p. 531. It is there stated that he
was also Rector of Ayot St. Laurence, Herts, and
that he published a new Translation of the New
Testament, with notes chiefly taken from Dodd-
Tidge, in 1764. This edition of the New Testament
is known, and a copy of it is in the British Museum.
But neither there nor anywhere else can I hear of
-a copy of the work of which I have sent you the
title, and which is in the possession of a relative of
mine. F. S. A.
YALE COLLEGE : PRINCETON COLLEGE. — Can
any of your American readers inform me whether
the " Commencement Exercises" of Yale College
from about 1801 to 1825 inclusive are printed in
any of the American magazines or newspapers of
that period 1 A number of these Yale College
"Commencement Exercises" are in the British
Museum, but the earliest I believe is 1826. Am
I likely to find the Princeton College " Commence-
ment Exercises" of the end of the last or beginning
of the present century in any of the American
journals or magazines ?
"BIOGRAPHIA DRAMATICA." — Is there any
French work of the same description as our English
one? R. INGLIS.
" WHELE." — In the Translators' Preface to the
Authorized Version of the Bible this word occurs :
" For then our people had been fed with Gall of
Dragons instead of wine, with whele instead of
milk." I have little doubt as to the meaning of the
word, but I should be glad to know of its use
elsewhere. I do not find it in Bailey or Johnson.
G. S.
PETER MEW, BISHOP OF BATH AND WELLS. —
How many portraits of this bishop are now extant 1
I know of one authentic] portrait, nearly full
length, in bishop's robes ; he wears the Order
of the Garter, and has a large black patch on his
cheek, and a helmet by his side. He was a soldier
in his youth, and, after he became a bishop, is said
to have turned the fortunes of the day at Sedge-
moor by drawing the cannon with his ccach-
horses to a commanding position. Macaulay
mentions this ciicumstance. BRENDA.
[It was after the bishop had been translated from Bath
and Wells to Winchester that the incident referred to
occurred.]
PECULIAR TREATMENT OF SOME WORDS IN
PASSING FROM ONE LANGUAGE TO ANOTHER. —
Near Nevin, in Carnarvonshire, there are three hills,
which, from their peculiar shape, have been named
in Welsh " Yr Eifl," or " The Fork." This name
has, however, been curiously Anglicized into " The
Rivals," by which name these hills are known in
English, — a name doubtless alluding to the all but
equal height of the three hills, but derived in
sound from the Welsh " Yr Eifl." Will any of
the readers of " N. & Q." give me other instances
of such a treatment of words or names ?
Abp. Trench, Study of Words, pp. 134, 135,
alludes to a somewhat similar character which the
German "karfunkel" possesses, being derived
from " carbunculus," but infused with a new soul
from " funkeln " ; he also cites the French
" rossignol " ; but probably this treatment of
words is more common than it may at first sight
be supposed to be. I shall be glad of any instances
which your readers can adduce.
T. M. FALLOW.
Chapel Allerton, Leeds.
AMERICA, AND THE ANTIQUITY OF ITS NAME. —
In a late work published by Richard Grant White,
of New York, an author well known for his Shak-
spearian writings, he states : —
" That all the great nomenclature of the American Sea
Board, from Greenland and Labrador to Terra del Fuego,
is ' Celtic,' and that the word America is one of the oldest
and most beautiful names, older than the Pyramids of
Cheops, and is not derived from Amerigo, the Florentine
navigator."
How is this 1 We had always supposed the
name was given in honour of Amerigo.
W. W. MURPHY.
[" The accident of the new continent " (see Knight's
Cyclopaedia, art. "Amerigo Vespucci") "receiving its
name from Amerigo has been attributed by M. Humboldt,
with great plausibility, to ignorance of the history of the
discovery (at that time jealously guarded as a State secret)
leading the publisher of Vespucci's narrative to propose
that it should be called after him, and to the musical
sound of the name catching the public ear."]
ECCENTRICITIES OF NOMENCLATURE. — Some
persons have an odd fancy for mis-spelling names,
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5th S. I. MAR. 28, 74.
female names more particularly. They write Har-
riot, Josiphine, Margret, Florance. I have seen
all these in print. Is not the practice very absurd!
The only instance in which I think it permissible
is Elinor. The proper spelling, Eleanor, a corrup-
tion of the older Alianora, is really a word of four
syllables; and if the name is to be pronounced
Elinor, it seems reasonable to spell it so. But why
not recur to the true pronunciation rather than
have recourse to false orthography ?
HERMENTRUDE.
THE EVENING PRIMROSE. — Can any one tell me
where I can find an ode to the Evening Primrose
which commences thus 1 —
" Flower of eve, the sun is sinking
Far beneath the western main ;
Thirsty shrubs the night-dews drinking,
Moonbeams stealing o'er the plain."
I should also be much obliged for the author's
name. The poem is by no means a recent one, as
I have known it myself for more than five-and-
twenty years. H. G.
" Gaillardise du Commun Jardin. The Cov' Garden
Morning Frolick. Hogarth Inv* and Sculp, printed for
Carington Bowles next the Chapter House in St. Pauls
Church Yard London. Price Six d."
The above engraving I purchased amongst some
caricatures by Gilray and others at a recent sale.
As it is new to me, any information respecting it
would be much esteemed. LAMBERT WESTON.
Dover.
" To PUT HIS MONKEY UP." — What is the origin
of this phrase, applied to rousing a person's temper
and putting him in a passion 1 Is it not a corro-
boration of the Darwinian theory, and meaning
" to excite the ancestral gorilla " ] W. G.
JOHN STUART MILL ON INDIA. — Where can a
copy be found of the Petition to Parliament which
Mill drew up in 1858 as the East India Company's
defence of their policy, and which Lord Grey de-
clared to be the ablest State paper he had ever
read 1 CYRIL.
Authors, c. 8vo., 1808. And in The Memoirs of
Joseph Shepherd Munden, Comedian, by his Son,
London, 1646, p. 252, I find that The Guardians
was brought out at Drury Lane on Nov. 5th, 1816.
J. BRANDER MATTHEWS.
New York.
SHIRLEY FAMILY. — The late Henry Shirley, of
the Coldstream Guards, was of Eatington and
Hyde Hall, Jamaica, and late of Pepingford, Sussex.
Was this gentleman descended from Dr. Thomas
Shirley, physician to Charles II., members of whose
family emigrated to the West Indies* in the seven-
teenth century ? S.
NAME OF BOOK WANTED. — A book of anecdotes-
which I have unfortunately lost contained the
following story, which, as I have never seen it any-
where else, may be worth a place in " N. & Q." : —
" A traveller in Shropshire came to the edge of a hill
overlooking a very ancient mansion ; he inquired its
name of a person near him, who replied, ' That, Sir, is
Werndee, a very old house ; for out of it came the Earls
of Pembroke of the first line, the Earls of Pembroke of
the second line, the Lords Herbert of Cherbury, Ramsay,
Cardiff, and York ; the Morgans of Acton, the Earl of
Hunsdon, the house of Lanark, and all the Powells. By
the female line, also, came out of it the Duke of Beaufort.'
— ' And who lives in it now ]'— ' I do.' — ' Then pray, Sir,
accept a bit of advice from a stranger ; come out of it
yourself, or you will soon be buried in its ruins.' "
I shall be very glad if any of your correspondents
can give me the name of the book of anecdotes
from which this is extracted. P. FABYAN.
Clifton.
QUEEN ANNE SQUARE. — Jno. Northouck, in his-
New History of London, 1773, says : —
" Northward of Cavendish Square, toward Maryboner
a new Square is now compleating, called Queen Anne^
Square ; as is another on the west near Tyburn turnpike,
called Portman Square."
No allusion is made to this in Cunningham's
Handbook. He mentions Queen Anne Street
West, saying that Turner lived there at No. 47.
No doubt this is the site of the square commenced
in 1773. The houses then completing were, per-
THE MORGUE. — I should be glad to learn from
some of your readers the explanation of the follow-
ing, taken from the Jewish Chronicle: —
" The register of the dead bodies found in the Seine
and exposed in the Morgue, Paris, bears the strange
name of ' Le Livre des Maccabees.' Why it is so called
has long been,, and is still, a puzzle to French philolo-
J. MILLER.
JOHN TOBIN. — How many plays did he leave
completed at his death, and how many have been
played ; also, how many have been published 1
Has his Life been taken ? The Biographia Dra-
matica (1812) mentions, 1. The Faro Table, c. 1795,
not printed nor acted; 2. The Honeymoon, c. 8vo.,
1805; 3. The Curfew, p. 8vo., 1807; 4. School for
haps, to form the south side of a square, of which
Mansfield Street might have formed the east side.
Can any one now explain why the plan of forming
a square was interfered with 'I C. A. W.
Mayfair.
QVEEN ANN'S INDIAN CHAPEL OF • THE.
ONONDAWGVS. — A volume has come into my pos-
session having on each cover the following in-
scription : —
" The gift of His Grace the Arch-Bishop of Canterbury
to Her Maiesty Qveen Ann's Indian Chapel of the:
Onondawgvs in the year 1712."
It contains—
* The pedigree of this branch of the Shirley family
has never been fully investigated, although there are
ample materials.
I. MAR. 28, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
249
"The Book of Common Prayer, printed by Charles
Bell & the Executors of Thomas Newcomb, deceas'd, &c.,
1709."
" The Holy Bible, printed by the Assignees of Thomas
Newcomb & Henry Hills, deceas'd, &c. 1711."
" The Apocrypha " [without date].
" The New Testament, printed by the Assignees of
Thomas Newcomb and Henry Hills, deceased, &c., 1710."
"The Whole Book of Psalms, &c., printed by G.
Groom for the Company of Stationers, 1709."
The book is richly gilt and lettered. Can you
give me any information respecting "Qveen Ann's
Indian Chapel of the Onondawgvs"? In my
endeavour to trace it, I am lost. Q. Y. Z.
CHEVALIERS OF THE GOLDEN SPUR. — Robson
says of this Order — •
" An order supposed to have been instituted in 1559 by
Pope Pius IV. They are styled in the Brevet of nomi-
nation Chevaliers de la Malice (sic) Doree, and at other
times Comtes-Palatins du Sacre Palais de Lateran."
Does Eobson mean that all " Chevaliers de la
Malice Doree " are Counts Palatine of the Lateran ;
and if so, does the creation bestow an hereditary
countship ? Italian heraldists would much oblige
by clearly denning the various uses of the term
cavalieri, and if a chevaliership was ever granted
by the Pope as hereditary. In the case of the
querist's family, the coat of arms is borne in front
of a cross of Maltese appearance, surmounted by a
crown resembling those called " Eastern coronets,"
but without balls. Is this a chevalier's or a count's
coronet ; and does it represent hereditary nobility
in Italy ? EHO.
AUTHORS WANTED. — I have a folio pamphlet
of twelve pages, entitled Orontii Finei Ddphin.
Reg, Mathematicarum Professoris : Quadrans
Astrolabicus, Parisiis, Apud Simonem Colindum,
1534, and shall be glad of any account of this
author, or his book. I have also a book in quarto,
entitled Petri Antonini Michelotti Tridentini
Apologia, Venetiis, 1727, and shall feel obliged by
any particulars of the life of the author.
M. D.
EXTRAORDINARY BIRTH OF TRIPLETS. — In vol.
Ixvi. of The European Magazine (July — Dec.,
1814) I find, on p. 386, the following extract and
query :—
"In the year 1666, in the county of Sussex, Mrs.
Palmer, wife of Edward Palmer, was delivered of three
sons, after being fourteen days in labour. John was born on
Whitsunday ; on Trinity Sunday came Henry ; and on the
Sunday following, Thomas. They all lived to be very
brave men, and were knighted for their exploits.
'• Perhaps some of your numerous correspondents may
be enabled to supply some further particulars of these
interesting personages."
Now the answer to the above (if any was ever
given) does not appear in the next number, which
completes the volume, and I do not possess the
next volume. Perhaps some of the numerous
correspondents of " N. & . Q." can inform me
whether this alleged extraordinary freak of Nature
is authentic or a mere myth. W. A. C.
Glasgow.
DE. JOHNSON AND DOROTHY TURTON NEE
HICKMAN.— THE FORD FAMILY.
(5th S. i. 30, 112.)
Since my note appeared in "N. & Q.," I have
had an opportunity of examining the parish registers
of Oldswinford, the parish in which the town of
Stourbridge is situated, and have ascertained from
them the parentage of Dorothy Hickman. It turns
out that she was the daughter of the very Gregory
Hickman to whom Dr. Johnson addressed the
letter referred to in my last. Although Gregory
is described on the tablet at Enville as "of the
city of Chester, merchant," it is certain that he
lived and died at Stourbridge.
From certain entries in the same registers, I am
satisfied that the Dr. Joseph Ford, of Oldswinford,
who married Dorothy Hickman's grandmother
(Jane, relict of Gregory Hickman), was the " emi-
nent physician" referred to by Malone as the
brother of Johnson's mother.
The following are the entries relating to Dorothy
and her half-brother "Walter: —
"1708.— Walter, son of Mr. Richard Hickman and
Dorothy his wife, born Jan. 24, and bapt. Jany. 27th.
" 1713. — Dorothy, daughter of Mr. Gregory Hickman
and Dorothy his wife, born Feb. 13, and bapt. 19th.
" 1734.— Nov. 13th.— Mr. John Turton and Mrs. Dorothy
Hickman (married).
" 1741.— The Revnd. Mr. Walter Hickman was buried
Sept. 24th.
" 1744.— Mrs. Dorothy Turton was buried Dec. 9th."
I am greatly obliged to THUS for his notes on
the Turton family. The pedigree in Shaw's Staf-
fordshire, to which he refers, was well known to
me. I merely noticed en passant the erroneous
statement in Burke's Landed Gentry, that Dr.
Turton was a son of Sir John. And I may here
mention that in the same work, in spite of the
assertion on Mrs. Johnson's tombstone at Lichfield,
and the statement of Boswell that that lady was
born at Kingsnorton in Worcestershire,* and was
descended from "an ancient race of substantial yeo-
manry " there, she is inserted in the pedigree of the
Fords of Ford Green, JVbrfow-le-Moors, co. Stafford,
and made a daughter of William Ford by Ellen,
nee Rowley, his wife.
I cannot find the marriage of Dr. Joseph Ford
to Janet Hickman in the Oldswinford registers,
* Boswell says Warwickshire, but Kingsnorton, though
near Birmingham, is in Worcestershire.
t In 1703 •' Dr. Joseph Ford, husband of Jane Ford,
relict of Gregory Hickman, who was executor of his
mother Mary Hickman," paid to the Governors of the
Stourbridge Free Grammar School 51., which the said
Mrs. Hickman left to the said governors for charitable
purposes. See the Charity Commissioners' Reports.
250
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5th 8. 1. MAR. 28, 74.
but there are the baptisms of Joseph, Sep. 2, 1691
(buried same year); Anne, 1692; Cornelius, 1693;
Phoebe, 1696; and James 1699,— their children. And
among the burials are Joseph Ford, 1720; Mrs.
Jane ford, 1722; Mr. Nathaniel Ford, 1729;
Nathaniel Ford, 1731; Cornelius Ford, 1734;
Mr. Gregory Ford, 1744; Mrs. Anne Ford, 1744;
.and Mrs. Phoebe Ford, 1766. There is also the
baptism of Joseph, son of " Mr. Nathaniel Ford
('? another brother of Mrs. Johnson] and Jane his
wife," in 1702.*
Gregory Hickman, sen., was buried on the 29th
of March, 1690. If, therefore, the Joseph Ford
who was baptized in September, 1691, was the
Doctor's son by the widow Hickman, the " funeral
baked meats " would be almost available for the
'' marriage table "; but unfortunately the mother's
Christian name is omitted from the register at this
period. James, the child last baptized, is, however,
stated to be the son of Mr. Joseph Ford " and
Jane his wife."
I quoted Boswell's statement in my previous
paper, that Johnson, after having resided for
some time at the house of his uncle, Cornelius
Ford, was removed to the school at Stourbridge, in
Worcestershire. I here add Malone's foot-note : —
" Cornelius Ford, according to Sir John Hawkins, was
his cottsin-german, being the son of Dr. Joseph [Q.
Nathaniel T] Ford, an eminent physician, who was brother
to Johnsons mother."
I do not know who added the " Q. Nathaniel 1"
in brackets ; but the occurrence in the Stourbridge
family of the names Cornelius and Nathaniel is,
* It should be mentioned that Dr. Simon Ford was
at this time Rector of Oldswinford (he was buried April
10, 1699), but he was of a Devonshire family, and not in
any way, I believe, related to Joseph the physician. This
will correct an error of mine in 2nd S. xi. 210.
Ford of Kingsnorton,=...
co. Worcester.
to my mind, almost conclusive as to these being
Dr. Johnson's relatives.
In a small Life of Johnson in my possession,
compiled apparently from Boswell, the Christian
name of "Parson Ford" is stated to have been
Cornelius. Is this so ; and can he be the Cornelius
baptized in 1693 ] Of him Dr. Johnson says: —
" Sir, he was my acquaintance and relation, my mother's
nephew. He had purchased a living in the country, bu t
not simoniacally. I never saw him but in the country.
I have been told he was a man of great parts — very profli-
gate, but I never heard he was impious."
It was by the parson's advice (according to
Boswell) that the Doctor was sent to Stourbridge
in 1724. Parson Ford died at the " Hummums "
in Covent Garden, and his ghost is said to have
appeared to one of the waiters.
The Eev. Henry Hickman (5th S. i. 117) was, I
believe, a younger brother of Richard Hickman, of
Stourbridge, and uncle of Gregory, sen. He was
baptized at Oldswinford, Jan. 19, 1628-9. Pro-
bably the Gregory Hickman, of Hamburg, mer-
chant, from whom the Irish Hickmans are
descended, was his son.
The connexion between Dr. Johnson and the
Hickmans will be best understood from the accom-
panying genealogical table.
H. SYDNEY GRAZEBROOK.
Stourbridge.
P.S.— In 1708 Nathan Hickman of Oken, co.
Stafford (near Wolverhampton), obtained a grant
of arms to himself and his descendants, and the
descendants of Richard Hickman, his grandfather.
I should be glad of any information about this
branch of the family. There was no pedigree re-
corded in the Heralds' College when the grant was
made.
Richard Hickman of Stour-=Mary, ob.
bridge, b. 1623, ob. 1660. 1680.
Sarah Ford, born at=
Kingsnorton, 1669,
ob. 1759, set. 90
(epit.)
. ;,
-Michael
Johnson,
b. 1656,
ob. 1731.
Joseph Ford,=Jane, bur. at-
M.D. of Oldswinford,
Stourbridge Sep. 20, 1722.
[2nd hus.]
=Gregory Hick-
man, bap. Nov.
3, 1651, bur.
Mar. 29, 1690.
Richard Hickman-
of Stourbridge,
born Dec. 10, 1653,
bur. May 13, 1706.
-Sarah Lench,
m. Ap. 23,
1674,bur.Jar.
21, 1705-6.
Sam. Johnson, LL.D., b. Nathaniel,
18 Sep., 1709, ob. 13 Dec., b.l71'2,ob.
1784. At school at Stour- 1737.
bridge, 1724.
• .1
Gregory Hickman,=Dorothy, d. of Walter— Richard Hickman of
bap. July 9, 1688, Moseley of the Mere,
bur. Aug. 31, 1748 Enville, Staff., ob. 16
[2nd hus. of Doro- I Ap., 1722, set. 33, bur.
thy]. at Enville.
Stourbridge, bap. Jan.
1, 1680-1, ob. July 4,
1710, bur. at Enville,
set. 29 [1st hus.]
Mary and
Gregory
both
died
young.
Dorothy, only sur-=
viving child (by
Dorothy), b. Feb.
13, and bap. Feb.
19, 1713-14, bur.
Dec. 9, 1744.
=John Turton, '.
mar. Nov. 13, '
1734. i
4
J
1
The Rev. Walter Hickman, Incumb. of St.
Thomas's, Stourbridge, b. Jan. 24, and bap.
Jan. 27, 1708-9, buT. Sep. 24, 1741, s. p.
Administration granted Nov. 25, 1741, to
Dorothy Turton, his only sister of the half-
blood and next of kin.
John Turton, M.D.
5" S. I. MAR. 28, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
251
VAGARIES OF SPELLING.
(4th S. xii. 224, 289, 369, 429, 496.)
I have read MR. PICTON'S remarks on the con-
tracted preterite (p. 369) with great interest, and
especially the explanation offered of the origin of
the termination " ed."
The theory advanced is very ingenious and plaus-
ible, and supported as it is by such high authority,
it would not become me to call it in question ; but
I fail to see, after reading MR. PIOTON'S letter
over very carefully, what the origin of this form
has to do with the practical question as to whether
we should spell cropped, or cropt; stepped, or
slept. The origin of the form in " ed " is purely,
as it seems to me, a speculative question, and has
as little to do with practical spelling as the doc-
trine of evolution has to do with the laws of health.
I venture, however, to submit a few considera-
tions based upon data indisputable and easily
accessible to all, which may in some measure
account for the tendency in English to the use of
a contracted preterite. The partiality of the Eng-
lish language for a short preterite may be seen in
the forms hide, hid; bite, bit; breed, bred; meet,
met; feed, fed; with many other similar verbs
where the preterite form is shorter than the
present. The archaic forms, writ = wrote ; rid =
ride ; smit = smote, although now superseded,
show the same tendency. In a third class of verbs
we have what may be termed a double contraction,
as creep, crept ; sleep, slept ; feel, felt ; keep, kept ;
sweep, swept ; and not creeped, sleeped,feeled, keeped,
sioeeped. In deal, dealt ; mean, meant ; lose, lost,
we have the single contraction in writing, while in
the sound it is twofold.
In made from make, contr. of maked, and had,
contr. of haved, we have another instance of this
tendency. So great is the aversion to the " ed "
addition in a large class of verbs, that, rather than
adopt this appendage, the preterite is made iden-
tical with the present, as in cast, burst, cost, &c.
In paid, said, laid, staid, we have another illus-
tration of the preference for a shortened preterite,
though the d is retained.
In face of the fact that our most distinguished
authors of every period have used the contracted
form of the past tense, it is surprising that so keen
an observer as MR. PICTON should designate the
use of this form pedantic. The Authorised Version
of the Bible, Spenser, Milton, Clarendon, W. S.
Landor, Thirlwall, and even Tennyson, are all
bristling with instances of this contracted form.
Tennyson has vext, fixt, mixt, &c. frequently.
It would, however, prove a most unprofitable as
well as an endless task, to attempt to determine
these points by an appeal to the authority of this or
that writer, or, worse still, by an appeal to what is
called taste or individual preference, for truly " de
gustibus non disputandum est." Is there, therefore,
no principle, no rule, by which these disputed points
may be settled ? This brings us to the root of the
whole matter, What is the aim, the object, the
purpose, of alphabetic writing 1 If the object of
alphabetic writing is not to represent the sounds
of words by means of letters, what is the object ?
MR. PICTON seems to indicate, though he does not
express the sentiment in so many words, that the
main use of alphabetic writing is to show the
history of words. It would be out of place here to
enter into the whole argument, but we may fairly
ask, What stage in the history of a word is to be
represented ? Take, for example, the word " head."
We have it at different periods of our language in
the various forms of "heede," " heuede," "hafode,"
and others. Which of these is to be the permanent
form 1 Would it not be better to adopt at once
"hed" and make the present pronunciation the
guide ? But MR. PICTON says, " There is no
standard of pronunciation: a cockney, a York-
shireman, and a Scotchman would pronounce
differently." Granted that to a certain extent they
would, but is there not a certain standard of pro-
nunciation, with a latitude within due limits it is
true, to which every schoolmaster throughout the
country tries to bring up his pupils, and upon
which educated men agree, generally speaking ?
Thus though Oxford and Cambridge may differ as
to the pronunciation of either and neither, this is
allowable latitude; but anyone calling great, greet,
would be called a vulgar and uneducated person.
Would any one with the least pretension to correct
speaking, attempt to give any sound at all to gh,
in daughter, slaughter, plough; to g, in sovereign,
foreign ? MR. PICTON may as well assert that
because several musicians may give a somewhat
different rendering to a piece of music, varying
the tone and expression but adhering to the general
strain of the composition, that therefore the notes
are no guide in rendering musical compositions.
Does not MR. PICTON in his remarks confound
two things that are essentially different, i. e., the
historical or archaiological interest which attaches
to spelling, and its practical utility as an instru-
ment of every day use by the mass of the people ?
What would be said of an ardent student of
ancient architecture, who in his admiration of the
structures designed before the invention of glass,
should recommend all modern buildings to be
constructed without windows 1 Language has its
historical charm and fascination ; but for every one
who has the time or inclination to pursue these
studies, there will be thousands who have to read
and write daily, and for the mass of the people
you need a more simple instrument than our
present orthography, which requires all the avail-
able time that the working classes can afford to
keep their children at school to learn it.
Moreover, even if the Fonetic Nuz system of
orthography, or any other simplified mode of spell-
252
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5th S. I. MAR. 28, 74.
ing, were adopted to-morrow, would this detract
one iota from the historical interest attached to
language for any who chose to pursue the study?
There seems to me to be a vagueness, a kind of
sentimentality, and even a tinge of superstition
about such expressions as, " Our language is a pre-
cious deposit, containing within itself a large
portion of the nation's history," &c., especially when
we know as a matter of history that many of these
" precious deposits " are due to the vagaries and
exigencies of printers and others, e. g., g in foreign
and sovereign, gh in delight, &c. E. JONES.
35, Newstead Road, L'pool.
COL. COLEPEPPER (5th S. i. 129.)— The best ac-
count of the meeting between Culpepper and the
Earl of Devonshire, on Sunday the 24th of April,
1687, at the drawing-room in Whitehall, is that
in The Works of Lord Warrington (Lond., 1694,
p. 563). He says : —
" That the Earl meeting Collonel Culpepper, who had
formerly affronted him in the King's Palace, and had not
given him satisfaction, he spake to the said collonel to go
with him into the next room, who went with him ac-
cordingly; and when they were there the said Earl
required of him to go down stairs, that he might have
satisfaction for the affront done him as aforesaid, which
the collonel refusing to do, the said Earl struck him with
his stick, as is supposed."
According to Bishop White Kennet, Memoirs
of the Cavendish Family (Lond., 1708, p. 137), the
Earl did not request the colonel to go with him,
but —
"Receiving from him, as he thought, an insulting
look, he took him by the Nose, led him out of the room,
and gave him some despising blow with the head of his
cane."
Most historians say nothing as to the nature of
the previous dispute, but Lingard (Hist. Eng. viii.
427, ed. 1830) says :—
" In 1686 Colonel Culpepper struck the Earl in the
King's ante-chamber, and was condemned to lose his
hand for the offence, but obtained a pardon after a long
imprisonment. The next year the Earl struck Culpepper
with a cane," &c.
But Lingard does not add that the Earl forgave
him on the distinct promise that he should not
again appear at Court.
For this the Earl was summoned by Chief
Justice Wright in the King's Bench, and compelled
to give bail, himself in 10,0002., and four sureties
for 5,OOOZ. each ; one of whom was the Earl of
Warrington, then Lord de la Mere. The particulars
of the trial are to be found in Hargreave (xi. 133,
ed. 1781). The Earl was fined 30,000?., and im-
prisoned till he should pay it. He escaped to
Chatsworth ; and when the sheriff came there to
arrest him, he made him a prisoner of honour, till
he compounded for his liberty by giving a bond to
pay the whole 30,OOOZ. himself.
For an interesting note as to the part which
Judge Jeffreys took in this matter, see Woolrych's
Life of Jeffreys, p. 299. The decision was brought
before the House of Lords in 1689, and the judges
very severely reprimanded.
In all the early accounts of this transaction the
plaintiff is called Colonel Culpepper, till the matter
came before the House of Lords ; he is then
throughout styled Mr. Culpepper, making it
probable that he ceased to be in the King's army
on the accession of King William. Mr. Grove,
in his Lives of the Earls of Devonshire (Lond..,
1764, p. 188), says that Colonel Colpepper appeared
at Court shortly after the defeat of the Duke of
Monmouth, and that he was encouraged " to come
to the Court, of which he was ready enough to be
the tool." From which it may be presumed that
he was a Roman Catholic.
John Lord Colepepper, who died in 1660, left
three sons, Thomas, John, and Cheney. Thomas,
the second Lord Colepepper, held the title till
1688. John, the third Lord, died in 1719 ; and
Cheney, the fourth Lord Colepepper, died s. p. in
1725, when the title became extinct. It is possible
that either of the two younger brothers might
have been the Colonel Culpepper of 1687, but I
think he was probably of another family ; I believe
he was the Colonel Thomas Colepepper, who
married Frances, sole daughter and heiress of John
Baron Freshville, of Staveley, co. Derby, created
1664, and ob. 1682. There are MSS. of this
gentleman in the Harleian collection, Nos. 6819
and 6833, which relate to suits between him and
the Earl of Devonshire, and to the claim to the
barony which he tried to set up in right of his-
wife, who styled herself Baroness Staveley.
EDWARD SOLLY.
UNSETTLED BARONETCIES (5th S. i. 125, 194.) —
There does not appear to be the slightest chance of
MR. STRATTON'S suggestion being carried into
effect. The tendency of the legislation of the
present day is not to enlarge the judicial functions
of the House of Lords, but to abolish them entirely.
With regard to Peerage Claims, the Lords do not,
in theory, act as Judges of a Court of Law, but a»
the advisers or referees of the Sovereign ; and
some authorities hold that the Sovereign might
competently refer the consideration of such Claims?
to another tribunal. In practice, of course, Peerage
Claims are always referred to the House of Lords,
and the Crown always acts upon their Lordships'
Keport. It is to be observed, however, with
reference to a remark by MR. STRATTON, that the
case of a Baronetage is not analogous to that of a
Peerage which does not directly qualify for a
seat in the Upper House, because in the latter
case a person found entitled to a Peerage becomes
at once an elector, by whose vote the composition
of the House of Lords may be influenced, and who
may himself at any time be elected a member.
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253
But even if all this were otherwise, it would not,
in my opinion, be desirable to assign to the House
of Lords the duty of deciding in cases of disputed
Baronetage. The sittings of the Committee for
Privileges in Peerage Claims are few and uncertain,
and cases are thrown over from year to year, and some-
times remain in dependence for long periods. I see
no reason why questions affecting the rights of the
Baronetage should not be settled by the ordinary
tribunals of the kingdom, in the same way as
questions affecting the rights to landed estates.
In Scotland, I presume, the heir to a Baronetcy
can establish his right indirectly, by obtaining a
Decree of Service conferring upon him, or finding
him possessed of. the character which it is necessary
he should hold in order to entitle him to the
Baronetcy. Holding such a Decree, might he not
maintain an action against the publisher of any book,
purporting to give the names of all the Baronets,
which excluded him from its pages ? If in the
case of Dick (4th S. xii. 86, 138) the right to the
Baronetage was vested in a person so recently as
1821, and the present claim has emerged since
that date upon the mere question of propinquity to
that person, and is good in itself, the expense of a
Service would be comparatively trifling. Rights
obtained under a Service in 1821 cannot now be
called in question upon any ground whatever.
W. M.
Edinburgh.
"Boss" (5th S. i. 221.)— R. B. S. gives two
quotations from John Knox's History of the Re-
formation, in which the peculiar word boss occurs,
and explains it by saying that it is evidently
"to be understood in the sense in which our
American .cousins still use it, as a cant word for
dignitaries or masters." But, before admitting
this, let us see how it is employed by other writers
of the period. In the first part of Marlowe's
Tamburlaine the Great there is a scolding scene
between the two empresses, Zabina an dZenscrate : —
" Zab. Base concubine, must thou be placed by ine,
That am the Empress of the mighty Turk 1
Zen. Disdainful Turkess, and unreverend boss !
Callest thou me concubine, that am betrothed
Unto the great and mighty Tamburlaine 1 "
And Lyly, in his Euphues, advising a defamer of
women, says : — .
" Be she never so comely call hir counterfaite, bee she
never so straight thinke hir croked. And wreste all
partes of hir body to the worst, be she never so worthy.
// shee be -well sette, then call hir a Bosse ; if slender, a
Hasill twygge ; if nut-browne, as blacke as a Coale ; if
well couloured, a paynted wall," &c.
The American explanation will hardly hold good
in either of these cases, but both are exactly fitted
by the definition given by Robert Sherwood in his
supplement to Cotgrave's French Dictionary : •' A
fat bosse. Femmebien grasse et grosse ; une Cache";
while in Cotgrave's own portion of the book Coche
is defined to be a " fustilags "—whatever that may
mean — "a woman growne fat by ease and lazi-
nesse." This is also well suited to R. B. S.'s
second quotation from Knox — " The bishope
preichit to his Jackmen and to sum auld Bosses of
the Toun"; and would be quite in the spirit of the
Reformer's well-known "Monstrous Regiment of
Women," which gave such mortal offence to-
Elizabeth.
Richardson, sub wee, defines boss to be " any-
thing rising or raised up, swollen, projecting,,
thrusting, or pushing forth," and gives a most
learned derivation for it, having already, in the
preceding page, treated us to one equally learned,
but altogether different, for bosom, although &
moment's reflection ought to have shown him that
they were intimately connected. He does not
even see this connexion when he goes on to say
that our ancestors used the word boss for a " head
or reservoir of water," and gives the well-known
boss of Billingsgate as an example. Nor doe&
either he or Gifford perceive that Ben Jonson
alluded to anything more than this famous spring
when, in the dialogue between Eyes, Nose, and
Ears, in Time Vindicated, he makes them say : —
" Eyes. You'll see
That he has favourers, Fame, and great ones too :
That unctuous Bounty is the boss of Billingsgate,
Ears. Who feeds his muse with claret-wine and oysters.
Nose. Goes big with satyr.
Ears. Goes as long as an elephant.
Eyes. She labours and lies in of his inventions."
And more to the same effect, which makes me feel
certain that near the foot of London Bridge there
was some " grasse et grosse femme " of a landlady,
whom Ben and his friends amused themselves by
calling the " Boss of Billingsgate," and it was this-
coche he was thinking of, and not the fountain,
when he spoke of the "unctuous Bounty" who
nourished his muse with oysters and claret.
In the mongrel tongue in which " old hoss " is
employed as a term of particular endearment, it is-
difficult to say whether " old boss " may not have
an equally recondite derivation.
F. CUNNINGHAM.
SWALE FAMILY (5th S. i. 188.)— Burke's Extinct
Baronetage, p. 514, states that Robert Swale, M.D.,
was the fourth son of Sir Solomon Swale, Bart.,
who died 1678; that he married Isabel, daughter
of Thomas Mitchell, of London, and left two sons,
Robert and William. The date of the supposed
extinction of the title is not given, but the last
holder but one died 1733. It seems clear, from
Burke's article, that Dr. Swale's representative, if
there be one, and if he prove his descent, is
entitled to the baronetcy.
C. F. S. WARREN, M.A.
Wotton, in his Baronetage published 1727, in
the lifetime of Sir Solomon, son of Sir Henry,
third son of Sir Solomon, the first baronet, stated
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[5th S. I. MAR. 28, 74.
that Robert, the fourth son of the latter " (was a
Doctor of Physick), married Isabel, Daughter of
Tho. Mitchell, of London (and left two sons, Eobert
and William)." Burke, Extinct Baronetage, copies
this statement without going further, and assumes
the title to have ceased at the death of Sir
Sebastian, the nephew of the second Sir Solomon,
and last surviving male of the line of Sir Henry.
W. E. B.
"ALBUM UNGUENTUM" (5th S. i. 167.)— There
can be no doubt that ME. TEW has hit upon the
right interpretation of this expression, and that
Bishop John greased the palm or fist (see Richard-
son's JDict., sub voce " grease ") of King William to
obtain his consent to the transfer of the See of
Wells to Bath. The words albo unguento manibus
ejus delibatis occur in the three editions of Matthew
Paris's Historia Major of 1571, 1640, and 1684.
But in his Historia Minor, ed. by Sir Frederick
Madden (Master of the Eolls series), p. 44, we
find, " Eodemque anno Johannes, prsesul Wel-
lensis, natione Turonicus, assensu Willelmi regis,
muneribus intervenientibus, transtulit in Bathoni-
am sui cathedram prsesulatus." This abridgment
makes the metaphor in the larger work at once
plain. I may mention that in the two editions of
the Flores Historiarum, published under the name
of Matthseus Westmonasteriensis, 1570 and 1601,
the paragraph runs : — " Eodem anno, Johannes,
Wellensis episcopus, natione Turonicus, transtulit
in Bathoniam, sui cathedram prsesulatus." Finally,
we find in Ann. Winton. Angl. Sacra, pars i.
p. 295 : — " Anno 1088. Gila, Wellensis episcopus
decessit ; successitque ei Johannes regis capellanus
et medicus ; qui data regi multd pecunid sedem
episcopalem Bathoniam transtulit." (1090.) See
Le Neve.
As I am engaged on the Mediceval Latin
Dictionary about to be published by Mr. John
Murray, queries of this kind are of great interest
to me. The question, however, is what to do with
such metaphorical meanings of words. Are they
to be inserted in the new Du Cange, which is in-
tended to explain obscurities in mediaeval authors?
No one will ask Mr. Dayman, the editor, or me to
read the mediaeval authors to find out metaphorical
expressions, but it would, perhaps, be worth our
while to insert them when we do know them.
J. H. HESSELS.
Trinity College Library, Dublin.
Doubtless the meaning is "a bribe," here as
elsewhere. Money is the ointment for " the
itching palm," with which Brutus twits Cassius
(Julius Ccesar, iv. iii. 10). There is a good story,
headed " De Muliere ungente manus judicis," in
Mr. Thomas Wright's Selections of Latin Stories
(Percy Soc., viii. 43), wherein " dixit quidam
mulieri, ' Judex ille talis est, quod nisi manus ejus
ungantur, non obtinebis jus coram ipso,' " which
the paupercula muliercula takes literally. As for
Rufus, it is said of him, in the summing up of
his character, in The Anglo-Saxon Chronicle,
" Godes cyrcean he nyfcerade. & {>a b. coprices &
abb. rices. \>e j?a ealdras on his dagan feollan.
ealle he hi o&Se wifc feo gesealde. o&Se on his
agenre hand heold. & to gafle gesette."
JOHN ADDIS.
[" Lawyers are troubled with the heat of the liver, which
makes the palms of their hands so hot, that they cannot
be cooled unless they be rubbed with the Oil of Angels."
—Green, Quip, &c., 1592.]
HERALDIC (5th S. i. 188.)— In reply to MR.
PARSONS, the first coat belongs to the name of Hadley,
Lord Mayor of London, 1379 and 1393; also Halley,
which looks like a corruption of Hadley, of the same
place. Should not the second coat he gives com-
mence gu. instead of az. 1 if so, it also belongs to
" Hadley," co. Hereford and London, granted 1685.
E. U.
FEMALE WATER CARRIERS (4th S. xii. 348.) —
In the Cries of London, by John Thomas Smith,
late Keeper of the Prints in the British Museum
(London, 1839), p. 17, there is stated: —
" The first delineation the writer has been able to dis-
cover of a water-carrier is in Hoefnagle's print of Non-
such, published in the reign of Queen Elizabeth.
" The next is in the centre of that truly curious and
more rare sheet woodcut, entitled Tittle-Tattle, which
from the dresses of the figures must have been engraved
either in the latter part of the reign of Queen Elizabeth,
or the beginning of that of James the First. In this
woodcut the maid-servants are at a conduit, where they
hold their tittle-tattle, while the water-carriers are busily
engaged in filling their buckets and conveying them on
their shoulders to the places of destination."
The copy represents a man, and underneath is
written "A Tankard Bearer." It appears that
before the New River water was laid on in
pipes to the principal buildings of the City, and in
the course of time let into private houses, the
conduits of London and its environs, which were
established at an early period, supplied the inhabi-
tants, who either carried their vessels or sent their
servants for the water as they wanted it. These
servants may have been male or female; but we
may suppose that either men or women followed
the occupation of carrying the water to the adjoin-
ing houses for a fixed sum! B. E. N.
THE KEYS OF LOCHLEVEN CASTLE (4th S. xii.
516.) — When in Manchester last summer I saw
Messrs. Chubb's keys exhibited in their shop
window in Cross Street, and sent a query on the
subject to an Edinburgh newspaper. This begot a
long and learned controversy on the subject of keys
generally which had been found in Lochleven from
time to time ; and, whilst it was doubted whether
Queen Mary or any of her attendants ever threw
any keys at all into the loch, whether, if so, those
keys had ever been found, and which, out of
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several bunches, was the genuine one, no doubt at
all was felt that, whoever might have them, Messrs.
Chubb & Son had not. If that firm has not seen
the correspondence I allude to, I shall be happy to
lend it to them on receiving an application to that
effect. W. S. HARPER.
"GRISELDA" (5th S. i. 105.)— This story is often
acted in Italy at marionette theatres. I witnessed
it at Ferrara, where there is a neat little playhouse,
built expressly for puppet actors. I have also
witnessed Griselda at a stenterello theatre in
Florence. I never saw Grisdda at any theatre of
importance. The story in ottava rima is published
in an Italian chap-book; a series of very common
pictures is popular with peasants, and often deco-
rates the walls of cottages. STEPHEN JACKSON.
"THAT BEATS AKEBO" (5th S. i. 148.)— I give
it up; but whatever it means, we in Yorkshire
have a saying that beats it. Ours is, " It beats
cock-fighting and judges coming down to York to
hang fowk !" These beating proverbs are legion.
The Irish say " It beats Bannaghar, and Bannaghar
bangs the Devil." N.
JEWISH SUPERSTITIONS (5th S. i. 204.) — In
speaking of "our own folk-lore," SENNACHERIB
should have mentioned either the county or district.
The Jewish prayer occurs in a very beautiful
little office, Blessing of the Moon.* One text
which comes in is, " Who is this coming from the
wilderness, leaning on her beloved?" probably
suggested by the comparison of the bride in the
Canticles to the Moon (vi. 10), one Hebrew name
of which is literally " bright one " or " fair one."
There is no direction for the act of jumping.
Satfield Hall, Durham.
SHOTTESBROOKF (5th S. i. 208.) — This name
seems to explain itself. Shott, as a family name,
would corrupt from Short. As a geographical
termination, it is usually from holt, a wood; as
Oakshot=Oaksholt. R. S. CHARNOCK.
Gray's Inn.
"THE LONDON CHRONICLE" (5th S. i. 187) was
commenced in January, 1757, and its career ter-
minated on the 28th of April, 1823, when it was
amalgamated with the London Packet. There is a
perfect file in the British Museum.
WILLIAM RAYNER.
Harrington Street, Hampstead Koad.
BENE'T COLLEGE, CAMBRIDGE (5th S. i. 167.) —
The following extract is from Dr. Lamb's edition
of Masters's History of the College, p. 40 : —
" About this time (i. e. the end of the fourteenth
century) the College had acquired the name of Bene't,
* See Daily, Sabbath, <L-c,, Prayers, with English Trans-
lation. London, Abrahams & Son, 1871.
probably from its vicinity to the church of that name ;
and this adventitious title was so generally adopted at a
later period as nearly to supersede the correct one of
Corpus Christi : in legal deeds it is styled the College of
Corpus Christi and the Blessed Virgin Mary, commonly
called Bene't College."
To this, being a Corpus man myself, I will add
that the church and the college (in its old state)
stood in Bene't Street ; that the church belonged
to the college, and was connected with it by a
passage which still exists, though shut up; and
that on the completion in 1827 of the new and
principal court in Trumpington Street, the college
was in a manner separated from the church, and
the name of Bene't College gradually fell into
disuse. It is now almost unknown.
C. F. S. WARREN, M.A.
"A ROMANCE OF THE ROOD-LOFT" (5th S. i.
169.) — This beautiful poem, by H. Savile Clarke,
appeared in the Christmas number of Casscll's
Magazine, vol. ii. HERMENTRUDE.
"POLLICE VERSO" (5th S. i. 205.)— There ia
good authority for the word verso in the sense in
which M. G-e'rome has used it. Juvenal, in his
Third Satire, v. 36, in speaking bitterly of the
alternating profusion and meanness of the rich,
upstarts and contractors of Rome, says : —
" Munera nunc edunt et, verso pollice vulgi,
Quemlibet occidunt populariter : inde reversi
Conducunt foricas," &c.
And it is manifest that, in whatever way some may
have interpreted the passage, the whole force of it
— the aggravation of the power of life or death
conferred by mean hands — is gone unless the words
in question are taken to express the death-signal,
the thumb verso, that is, in the fatal direction, or
downwards. R. HILL SANDYS.
"MASHING" TEA (5th S. i. 205.)— This phrase,
meaning infusing tea, is not peculiar to Sheffield.
It evidently had its origin from the brewer's mash-
tub. In certain parts of Scotland the process of
infusing tea is called masking, probably a cor-
ruption of mashing. W. A. C.
Glasgow.
Mash is to infuse (miscere), familiar in the
brewer's mash-tub ; but as applied to the tea-pot it
is generally mask : —
" Then up they gat the masking-pat,
And in the sea did jaw, man,
And did nae less, in full congress,
Than quite refuse our law, man." — Burns.
W. G.
"ALL WOMEN BORN," &c. (5th S. i. 207.)— A
"Triolet," from "Poems, by Robert Bridges."
Pickering, 1873. TENEOR.
REV. STEPHEN CLARKE (5th S. i. 208.)— Alli-
bone mentions that S. Clarke's Sermons were pub-
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[5th S. I. MAR. 28, '74.
lished in "1727-30. 8vo." I have one before
me, entitled —
The Triumphs of a True Christian. A Sermon preached
at St. Mary's before the University of Oxford on All-
Saints-Day; November the First, 1715. By Stephen
Clarke, M. A., of Merton College, in Oxford ; and Curate
of Barton-Staey in Hampshire. London : printed for
John Clark, at the Bible and Crown in the Poultry, near
Cheapside. 1715. [Price Threepence.]
This Sermon is dedicated to Richard Carter,
Esq., of Gt. Haseley. W. WINTERS.
Waltham Abbey.
SUNFLOWER AS A PREVENTIVE OF FEVER (5th S.
i. 165.) — In frequent contributions to the " Table-
Talk" of Once a Week, I have on two occasions
drawn attention to this subject (July 24, 1869,
pp. 42-3, and Dec. 18, 1869, pp. 439-40). I spoke
of a paper read by M. Martin before the Socie"te
The"rapeutique de France, in which he mentioned
the successful experiment of planting sunflowers
on a large scale, in the fenny districts, by Rochefort,
and also in Holland ; and that, in consequence of
M. Martin's paper, the Minister of Agriculture and
the head of the Sanitary Bureau in the Depart-
ment of the Interior in Italy had taken measures to
promote the growth of sunflowers in fever-stricken
districts. I said further (and it corroborates what
your correspondent states) that the seed of the sun-
flower was a valuable food for poultry, and is
believed to give it a gamey flavour. I also noticed
the popular fallacy that, as Moore says, —
" The sunflower turns to her god when he sets
The same look which she turn'd when he rose."
This popular error is made use of in Miss Green-
well's Carmina Crucis (1869) ; also by the poet
Thomson ; Edward, Lord Thurlow ; Dr. Hales, and
Sir James Edward Smith. CUTHBERT BEDE.
BYRON : WYCHERLEY (5th S. i. 164.)— In
Breen's Modern English Literature, p. 269, it is
stated that Macaulay discovered Byron's line in
the following lines by Eobert Montgomery : —
" And thou vast Ocean, on whose awful face
Time's iron feet can print no ruin-trace."
Wycherley may have found his idea in Massinger's
Great Duke of Florence, Act i. sc. 1. : —
" Princes never more make known their wisdom
Than when they cherish goodness.
******.
They can give wealth and titles, but no virtues.
******
But in our Sannazaro 'tis not so ;
He "being pure and try'd gold, and any stamp,
Of Grace to make him current to the world
The Duke is pleased to give him, will add honour
To the great possessor."
Vide Brallaghan; or, the Deipnosophists, by
Edward Kenealy, p. 290. T. MACGRATH.
" RINGLEADER " (5th S. i. 146.)— I give you a
still earlier allusion to this word, as meaning the
person who opens a dance, in the words said to
have been addressed by William Wallace to his
troops before the battle of Falkirk : " I have
brought you to the ring, hop if ye can" ; given (in
the form of Early English) in Thomas Walsingham's
Hist. Anglicana, vol. i. p. 76. H. T. RILEY.
" FROM GREENLAND'S ICY MOUNTAINS " (4th S.
xii. 326, 455 ; 5th S. i. 37, 156.)— The subject
scarcely warrants further contributions, but R. H. W.
writes so positively (p. 157) that some people may
believe he is stating a fact. All Mr. Hughes of
Wrexham did was to publish the fac-sirnile I men-
tioned ; and, in a note I have just had from him, he
says, "I saw the original in a collection of Dr.
Raffles's which was exhibited in the Exhibition of
1861, in London." Mr. Hughes never preserved
the MS. A. R.
Croeswylan, Oswestry.
The following is a copy of the Statement
attached to the fac-simile of this hymn, as pub-
lished and sold by R. Hughes & Son, Wrexham : —
" On Whitsunday, 1819, the late Dr. Shipley, Dean of
St. Asaph, and Vicar of Wrexham, preached a Sermon
in Wrexham Church, in aid of the Society for the Propa-
gation of the Gospel in Foreign Parts. That day was
also fixed upon for the commencement of the Sunday
Evening Lectures intended to be established in that
Church, and the late Bishop of Calcutta (Heber), then
Rector of Hodnet, the Dean's son-in-law, undertook to
deliver the first Lecture. In the course of the Saturday
previous, the Dean and his son-in-law being together at
the Vicarage, the former requested Heber to write
' Something for them to sing in the morning,' and he
retired for that purpose from the table, where the Dean
and a few friends were sitting, to a distant part of the
room. In a short time the Dean enquired ' What have
you written 1 ' Heber having then composed the three
first verses, read them over. ' There, there, that will
do very well,' said the Dean. 'No, no, the sense is not
complete,' replied Heber; accordingly he added the
fourth verse, and the Dean being inexorable to his re-
peated request of ' Let me add another, oh ! let me add
another,' thus completed the hymn of which the
annexed is a fac-simile, and which has since become so
celebrated : it was sung the next morning in Wrexham
Church, the first time. E."
The line noticed by A. R. is —
" 'Twas when the seas were roaring,"
and is prefixed to the hymn as (apparently) an in-
dication of the air to which it was intended to be
sung. T. W. C.
WELSH TESTAMENT (5th S. i. 9, 173.)— The in-
teresting reply of MR. UNNONE contains such im-
portant information as to the careful mode of
compilation and translation of this version, as to
suggest at once the inquiry, Avhether the " New
Testament Company " now engaged in revising our
English version have amongst them any Welsh
scholar capable of collating it with the Welsh 1
I venture to call MR. UNNONE'S attention to a
singular and striking variance in the Welsh trans-
lation from both English and Greek, occurring in
the narrative of the marriage at Cana. (English)
5th S. I. MAR. 28, 74.]
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"And when they wanted wine, the mother of
Jesus saith unto him, they have no wine." (Greek)
" They have not wine." Here the English and
Greek, which correspond, assume the absence of
wine ; that is, that no wine had been provided.
Now, mark the difference in the Welsh : — "A
phan ballodd y gwin," " and when the wine had
diminished (or run short) the mother of Jesus said
unto him, ' nid oes ganddynt mo'r gwin,' they
have not any more wine." It is plain that the
Welsh translator has here departed from the
literal Greek ; but he has entered more completely
into the spirit of the narrative, and given more
force and aptness to the saying of the governor
(S. John ii. 10), "Every man at the beginning doth
set forth good wine, and when men have well
drunk, then that which is worse, but thou hast
kept the good wine until now " ; a saying which
loses much of its significance if we are to suppose
that no wine had been produced at the marriage
previously to the miracle. M. H. E.
CATHERINE PEAR (5th S. I 128, 174.)— I do
not think the Catherine pear is extinct in old-
fashioned gardens. The fruit ripens in the be-
ginning of autumn, and is juicy and well-flavoured,
but does not keep. There is, or was, a fine Cathe-
rine-pear standard in the garden of a house I
occupied in Kilkenny City, some fifteen years ago ;
and the rich tints of its sunny sides recalled Suck-
ling's lines to my mind many a time.
JAMES GRAVES.
" The Catherine peare is knowne to all I thinke to be
a yellow red sided peare, of a full waterish sweete taste
and ripe with the foremost. The King Catherine is
greater than the other, and of the same goodnesse, or
rather better. The Russet Catherine is a very good
middle sizid peare.
"The Muske peare is like unto a Catherine peare for
bignesse, colour, and forme ; but farre more excellent
in taste, as the very name importeth.
" The Soveraigne peare, that which I have scene and
tasted, and so termed unto me, was a small brownish
yellow peare, but of a most dainty taste ; but some doe
take a kind of Bon Chretien, called the Elizabeth peare,
to be the soveraigne peare ; how truly let others judge."
From a long list in the orchard of John Parkin-
son's Paradisus Terrestris, 1629. B. N.
MNEMONIC CALENDARS (5th S. i. 5, 58, 179.) —
Why will people torment themselves, and tax
their memories with senseless verses, when the
old fashioned 1—8 — 15—22 — 29 would at once
give them the day of the week or month ? Sun-
day being 1st February, and this not being Leap
year, the 1st March must be Sunday, and the 1st
April consequently will be on a Wednesday, &c.
W. M. M.
DOUBLE RETURNS TO PARLIAMENT (5th S. i.
104, 153, 176.)— W. T. M. is in error with regard
to the return for Athlone in 1874. The sheriff,
Mr. Walter Nugent, certified that both candidates
had an equal number of votes (140), and that he,
not being an elector of the borough, did not give
a casting vote. If the word casting means to
throw or defeat, then it would seem that any vote
so given, whether the voter had previously voted
or not, was a casting vote. The term is often ap-
plied to the vote a chairman of a meeting, or
presiding officer, has, in right of his office, in
addition to his ordinary vote. Had Mr. Nugent,
the presiding officer at Athlone, been an elector,
he might have voted in that capacity, and also
had a casting vote as returning officer. Grand
juries in Ireland consist of twenty-three persons,
and a jury of twelve must find a presentment.
The Irish Poor Law Commissioners do not allow
the chairman a second vote, but he frequently
votes last, and refuses to do so unless there is a
tie. In Municipal Corporations the mayor has a
second vote. JOSEPH FISHER.
Waterford.
BERE EEGIS CHURCH (4th S. xii. 492 ; 5th S. i.
50, 117, 154, 176, 199, 231.)— MR. TEW and I
seem to be at cross purposes. I am shocked at
being supposed, by any fellow-creature, capable of
such a monstrosity as rendering " tandem," " where."
The sentence in question, in the original, not
with the words transposed as MR. TEW has done,
but as it stands, is this : —
.... "patrimonium
invenit narcoticum
quo devictus
per triennium morbo laborans herculeo,
tandem
expiravit."
I have omitted the words which MR. TEW calls —
not quite correctly, as I think — parenthetic, as I
agree they are not needed to show the construction.
In my translation I, as MR. TEW also did, did
it somewhat freely, while preserving what I thought
the sense. I now follow MR. TEW'S example
again, and do it literally: — "His patrimonial
home, where, conquered, (namely) suffering under
epilepsy for three years, he at last died."
It is quo which I render " where," for which, as
I said, some authority can be found ; and it refers
naturally to the " home " above-mentioned. It
might be for " in quo."
It is true the apposition of devictus and laborans
is not very elegant, but not less so than other
things in this ugly bit of Latin.
I can only say again that, to my perception, if
the sentence was an integral one as MR. TEW puts
it (quo not referring to anything preceding), the
situations of the antecedent and relative are ex-
tremely awkward.
Moreover, if the sentence is a complete one, and
" fuit " is not to be understood after " devictus,"
it seems to me ungrammatical. In MR. TEW'S
version " he expired" is the noun and verb after the
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participle " labouring," or after the participle
" being overcome," but how can it be both ?
LYTTELTON.
MR. LORRAINE SMITH (5th S. i. 228.)— He was
in holy orders, son of Charles Lorraine Smith, Esq.,
of Enderby, near Leicester, formerly M.P. for that
town. Mr. Charles Lorraine Smith was born in
1751, and died in 1835. He was a celebrated
sportsman, a wit, a poet, and an artist ; he was a
friend of Morland and Gilray, the latter of whom
etched many of his caricatures. I have seen him
out hunting with the Quorn hounds when he was
above eighty years of age. In former days he was
noted for his fine horsemanship, and his remark-
ably handsome person. He is introduced by
Zoffany in a picture of the interior of the
Florentine Gallery, now in the Royal Collection.
He was the second son of Sir Charles Lorraine,
Bart., of Kirke-Harle, and took the name of Smith
on his marriage. The Rev. Charles Lorraine held
the living of Passenham, near Stoney Stratford,
in Buckinghamshire, and died in 1857, leaving
daughters. J. P.
NOTES ON BOOKS, &c.
Sayings ascribed to Our Lord ly the Fathers and other
Primitive Writers, and Incidents in his Life narrated
l>y Them, otherwise than found in Scripture. By John
Theodore Dodd, B.A. (Parker & Co.)
THE title of this work shows the large field of early
MSS. over which the author has travelled. Without
authenticating the records of the words and deeds of the
Saviour, he collects and chronologically classifies the
passages as found in primitive .works. Mr. Dodd's
admirable collection will interest and instruct Biblical
students of all classes. The advanced Theophilus, too,
will find here a good synopsis of patristic extracts both
from genuine and apocryphal sources ; in fact, all readers
may be instructed how "many have taken in hand to
set forth in order those things which are most surely
believed among us."
Military Memoir of Colonel John Birch, sometime Gover-
nor of Hereford in the Civil War between Charles I.
and the Parliament. Written by Roe, his Secretary.
With an Historical and Critical Commentary, Notes,
and Appendix, by the late Rev. John Webb, M.A.
Edited by his son, the Rev. T. W. Webb, M.A.
(Printed ibr the Camden Society.)
THIS singular memoir relates incidents and episodes in
the Civil War in which Colonel Birch had a part, from
the time of Rupert's appearance before Bristol, in 1642,
to the taking of Goodrich Castle in the Spring of 1646.
The memoir is comprised within six-and-thirty pages.
The commentary and appendix occupy two hundred
pages ; they are " the production of an author, the greatest
part of whose ninety-third year was employed in their
preparation." Commentary and notes reflect the highest
credit on the knowledge and judgment of the venerable
writer. What he left unfinished has been supplied by his
son ; and the result is a volume which is full of illustra-
tions of the fighting life of the period. Roe states that
he feels bound to write this "Memoriall of some Actions
in which Collonel John Birch was engaged, wherein soe
much of God is seen, that I should have looked upon
myself as an eclipser of his glory, if I should not have
committed the same to paper." Every success on the
colonel's part is ascribed to the hand of God, with a sort
of assurance, however, that Heaven was fortunate in
having Birch for an instrument. In one skirmish, which
is but one of a score of battle-pieces as picturesque as one
on canvas by Wouvermans, Birch had a narrow escape
from being pistolled; but, sajs Roe, "God would not
have you then hitt." He adds, however, " You would never
have escaped soe had it not been for those musketeers
. . . who kept off the horse . . . and made some few to ffall."
JOHN TALBOT, the great Englishman, whom no single
Frenchman, it used to be said, ever dared meet in single
combat — the Englishman whom we know as Shakspeare's
Talbot — the Englishman of whom even Voltaire spoke
with respect and admiration, was slain at Castillon, near
Bordeaux, fourscore years and upwards, in the year 1453.
There is no decisive record of where the old warrior was
buried. The old church of Whitchurch, Shropshire,
contained a stately monument to his memory. It stood
in the high chancel. It was a cenotaph honoris gratia,
with a recumbent figure in armour, with garter and
robes. There was a tradition, and only a tradition, that
Talbot was buried in the porch of the old church. The
church in question was demolished in the last century.
The effigy is all that remains of the old monument in the
modern church. An urn, said to contain Talbot's heart,
was in the old building. It was found, we are told, in
the ruin, and was deposited beneath the porch of the
present structure. We now read in the Osweslry Adver-
tiser, that, " a few days ago, while some workmen were
repairing the monument bearing the recumbent figure of
Talbot, in the south aisle, the remains of a coffin were
discovered, with a number of bones. The rector and
churchwardens were informed of the discovery, and
carefully removed the bones, which were wrapped in
cerements and in a wonderful state of preservation, and
they found that only a few of the vertebral bones were
missing. At the back of the skull was an opening,
evidently made, it is said, by a battle-axe while Talbot
was in a recumbent position, and the probable cause of
death." The old accounts do not speak of the death of
Talbot by a battle-axe. In Trussell's Continuation of
the History of England, A.D. 1636, there is a lively de-
scription of the French before " Chatillon," massed in an
entrenched camp, " whither the Earle followeth them
and resolutely cnargeth them so home that he got the
Entry of the Campe, where being shot thorow the thigh
with a Harquebush arid his Horse slaine under him, his
Sonne, desirous to relieve his Father, lost his owne life,
and therein was accompanyed by his bastard Brother,
Henry Talbot, Sir Edward Hall, and thirty other Gentle-
men." About threescore were captured. The rest fled
from the brave but abortive attempt to relieve " Chatilloii"
towards Bordeaux, " but in the way a thousand of them
were slaine." Trussell goes on to say that the brave old
earl's body " was buried in a torn be at Roan in Normandy,
with this inscription : ' Here lyeth the right noble Knight,
John Talbot, Earle of Shrewsbury, Washford, Waterford,
and Valence, Lord Talbot of Goodrich and Orchenfield,
Lord Strange of Blackmore, Lord Verdon of Alton, Lord
Cromwell of Wingfield, Lord Lovetot of Worsop, Lord
Furnivall of Sheffield, Lord Fauconbridge, Knight of the
noble orders of St. George, St. Michael and the Golden
Fleece, Great Marshall to King Henry the Sixt of his
realme of France.' " This is nearly the order in which Sir
William Lucy (in Shakspeare's Henry VI.) describes
Talbot to the Dauphin. Trussell chronicles the burial
of Talbot at Rouen; but the Dirieley MSS., written
about 1670, in the possession of Mr. T. E. Winnington
(see "N. & Q." 2nd S. viii. 371), say: "Some would
have him to be buried in Rouen, the chief city of
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259
Normandy, but most agree it was his choice to be
buried in Whitchurch porch," and the inscription on
the "large square blewish pebble-stone" is given, and
is nearly the same in purport as the one alleged by
Trussell to be over Talbot's tomb in Rouen. In 1670,
however, the brass plate, which is said to have borne
the inscription over the grave in Whitchurch porch, was
" supposed to have been stolen away by the soldiery in
the late unnaturall wars, who have alsocrackt and much-
abused the same" (the stone to which the plate had been
fixed) " by making fires thereon." With regard to the
cause of death, some French accounts state that the
same cannon-ball slew both Talbot and his son. Lingard
says that " The English commander, who had his horse
killed under him and his leg broken, was slain as he lay
on the field with a bayonet " — a weapon which was not
invented till two hundred years later. Finally, it is
further stated that the son of old Talbot fell in an
attempt to recover his father's body, a fall which left the
gallant soldier's corpse in the hands of his enemies. M.
Vallet de Virivalle, author of the biography of Talbot,
in the Nouvelle Biographie Generate, quotes from the
Chronique of Matthieu d'Escourtz, to the effect that
Talbot's body remained undiscovered till it was re-
cognized by the Earl's old herald, and that it was trans-
ported to Whitchui ch for burial. About the year 1 580, a
sword bearing the inscription " Sum Talboti M.CCCC.XLIII"
was found in the Dordogne ; and in the sixteenth cen-
tury, Talbot's buff tunic, covered with velvet, was pre-
served in the Castle of Amboise.
ON the subject of Miss Sheppard's art-novel, Charles
Auchester (5"' S. i. 208), a lady, under the signature
DOYLL, fays, " I have always understood that the
characters in this book were to be explained as follows :
The Chevalier Seraphael is Mendelssohn ; Maria
Cerinthia, Malibran ; Josephine Cerinthia, Viardot
Garcia ; Clara Benetti, Jenny Lind ; Leaheart Davy,
Hullah ; Santonio, Sain ton : Starwood Burney, Sterndale
Bennett ; Milans Andre, Thalberg ; Joseph Cerinthia,
•Garcia ; Anastase, Berlioz ; Miss Lawrence, Miss
Horsley; and Charles Auchester, Charles Horsley. It
may be conjectured that Aronach represents Zelter. No
one can fail to be struck by the likeness of Seraphael to
Mendelssohn on reading Madame Polko's reminiscences of
the latter. Charles A uchester was published in 1853, by
Hurst & Blackett." We cannot do better than add a
passage from a review, by the late Henry Chorley, on the
above work, in the Athtnceum, Nov. 12, 1853: — "The
attribution of the hero to Mendelssohn, of all men, is
surely arbitrary to the extent of being a folly. If it can
by possibility have been intended by the author, then his
is a failure far beyond common or necessary failures.
No man who really knew Mendelssohn could for even a
moment accredit the sentimental and sublime Seraphael
as being, in any respect, a likeness of that real and
sincere poet, that simplest of all simple men, — whose
sound manly sense and avoidance of display bore due
proportion to his simplicity. An outer touch or trait or two
of his looks and manner there may here and there be ; but
while reading scene after scene, chapter after chapter of
these sustained rhapsodies, we could not escape the
thought of what would have been Mendelssohn s own
hilarity and astonishment could he have seen this alleged
portrait of himself,— been told that thus he acted, thus
he spoke, thus he loved." A further extract on the
subject of art-novels will more fully elucidate this
subject : — " Perhaps no Art-novel can be other than in-
complete ; inasmuch as Art is too subtle a subject for
works of Art, and inasmuch as the whole lives of very
few artists in the least resemble the sort of existence
which enthusiasm and poetry love to dream that they
are. No imagination can out do the ical amount of
burning aspiration which, consciously or unconsciously
harboured, must nerve the wing and point the career of
those whose genius enthrals the world : — but the con-
ditions under which this is brought about into an
external utterance or expression, and the caprices and
incoherencies by which, as links, it must connect itself
with the prosaic world around it, do not look lovely in the
novel, poem, or drama. The Pasta of romance, if we
are to have the romance of Pasta, should for ever be
Medea on her cothurnus, — never the cheerful stout lady
in a Milanese hat and brown holland blouse whom we
have seen hallooing to a flock of vagrant turkeys at her
own garden gate by the Lake of Como. Viewing the
lady on her sublime side, what description of her Medea
ever did, or could do, justice to its reality? Thus,
betwixt stilted sentiment and incompetent exposition,
the Tragedy Queen is deprived of her work-a day woman-
hood by the very same hand that cuts short her artistic
pedestal. The Mozart of the Requiem, for the poet's
and novelist's uses, should be the melancholy dreamer,
for ever —
Taking the measure of a new-made grave, —
not the gambler — not the dancer at Vienna Carnivals —
not the playmate of Leitgeb, ' the ox and ass,' and of
Shikaneder, the worthless buffoon, — who gave to his
works the wine (as it were) of his spirit, and to his life,
its lees." Miss Sheppard was the authoress of (besides
Charles Auchester) Counterparts; or, the Cross of Love,
The Double Coronet, Rumour, and some minor works.
Miss Sheppard died in 1862, aged thirty-two.
BURNS AT BROWNHILL INN (5th S. i. 235.) — We have to
thank several correspondents who have given us very
good reasons for thinking that it would be well to leave,
henceforth, the errors of Burns to the oblivion in which
such things should be buried. Perhaps the subject may
be most gracefully parted from in the following lines
from an old correspondent : —
"BURNS AT BROWNIJILL INN.*
" Touches of earth about a radiant soul —
They should not dim its brightness in our eyes ;
Perchance if wholly freed from such control,
] ts wings had sought at once their native skies.
The grossness of Silenus holds within
The perfect beauty of th' Immortal Gods.f
Prophets and Singers small belief would win
Unless they had some sympathies with clods.
Incarnate Deities move our natures double,
As pure Abstractions never will nor can ;
Th' Impers'nal floats on high, a graspless1 bubble,
We rush into the outstretched arirs of Man. —
I neither praise nor blame, but turn away ;
Blots on the sun do not make night of day."
JOHN ADDIS, M.A.
ASHANTKE writes :— "I have received from Coomassie
a string of the wonderful beads called ' aggry beads," to
much valued by the native ladies in that part of Africa ;
and I shall feel obliged for any light that can be thrown
on $heir nature and origin. The only notice of these
' aggry beads ' that I have seen is in the ScoUman of the
21st inst., whose Ashantee correspondent, at Cape Coast
Castle, writes : — ' Among the natives, the great competi-
tion is for " aggry beads." These mysterious pieces of
pottery are dug out of the ground, and found when
digging for gold and other things in various parts of
Africa. No one knows their history, nor how they got
there ; and valuable as they are in Africa, no imitation
has been made which deceives the natives. They always
fetch their weight in gold, and at the sale a quarter
more was given for good specimens. The wealthy native
* " N. & Q.," 5tb S. i. 235. f Plato's Symposium.
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ladies bought them up, and so comparatively few are
going home. The various museums should be " on the
look out." They are of great weight, and fifty on the
string, and have a small brass "fetish" attached to
them, as the Cross is worn with a rosary.' "
MEMORIAL VERSES.— In "N. & Q.," 4th S. vii. 386,
REV. W. J. LOFTIE made record of having found the
following lines in a copy of Grafton's Abridgment of the
Chronicles of ^England, dated 1570 : —
" Thirty dayes hath November,
April, June, and September,
February hath xxviij alone,
And all the rest have xxxi."
In Winder's Almanack, 1636, Mr. Thomas Wright had
previously thought he had discovered the earliest version
of the memorial verses in the following : —
" April, June, and September
Thirty daies haue as November ;
Ech month else doth never vary
From thirty one, save February,
Which twenty eight doth still confine,
Save on leap year, then twenty nine."
MR. LOFTIE has now discovered an earlier example than
that of 1570. He writes : " I find in a French MS. book
of Hours, fifteenth century, among those now being ex-
hibited at the Burlington Fine Arts Club, the property
of Mr. Bragge, four similar lines, beginning —
'Trente Jours a Novembre.'
I hope to be able to ascertain more exactly the date of
the MS."
DR. INGLEBY'S Shakespeare's Centurie of Prayse; or,
Materials for a History of Opinion on Shakespeare and
his Works. The above work, culled from writers of the
century, 1592-1692, and edited by Dr. Ingleby, will
present between two and three hundred extracts,
noticing Shakespeare, or some work of his. These ex-
tracts cover the period which elapsed from the rise of
Shakespeare to the advent of criticism. The volume
will be published (by subscription) by Mr. Charles Ed-
monds, Bull Street, Birmingham. The same publisher
is issuing, by arrangement with Messrs. Lippincott, the
Variorum Shakespeare, edited by Mr. H. H. Furness, of
Philadelphia. Each volume is complete in itself.
Romeo and Juliet, and Macbeth, have been already issued.
The third volume will comprise Hamlet, with all its
enormous critical and illustrative literature; and each
subsequent volume will be devoted, in like manner, to a
single play.
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note on St. John v. 2, says, " This pool, stirred by an
angel, was endued with curative power. It may be re-
garded as a figure of Christian baptism," &c.
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regular troops, who were called the "Red Soldiers."
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LONDON, SATURDAY, APRIL 4, 1874.
CONTENTS. — N» 14.
NOTES :— Good Friday and Easter Sunday, temp. Charles II.,
261 — English Surnames, 262 — Shaksperiana — Tenth
Extract from my Old MS. Note-Book, 263 — The Descent
of William Penn from the Penns of Penn, co. Bucks, 265—
Travelling in Italy Forty Years since, 266.
QUERIES :— "William, Abbot of Ramsey— Archibald Hamilton
Rowan— John Stuart Mill— Tetley Family, 267— Heraldic—
Bev. George Arnet, A.M. — Capt. William Kidd — Early
British Animals— "A New History of England," <fec. — For-
farshire — Archbishop Adamson of St. Andrews, 1575— Skerry-
brand— " Aurigny's Isle" — Knock Fergus— Portrait Seal of
Oliver Cromwell — Bar Sinister, 268 — Author Wanted —
Etched Female Portraits — Bygoe Family — The German
Drama— Sir Philip Sidney's "Arcadia" — " Mathematicall
Recreations" — Sir J. Prestwick, Bart. — "Deaneries of
Christianity"— Thomas Frye, 269.
REPLIES :— Black Priest of Weddale, 269— Fuller's "Pisgah
Sight of Palestine," 271 — "Jure Hereditario" — Inscription
on Bronze Mortar — Poplar Wood — Cowper : Trooper —
" Cloth of Frieze "—Philip of Spain and the Garter, 272—
Isabel, or Elizabeth, Wife of Charles V.: "a Lowits" —
Haunted Houses, 273— Tavern Inscriptions— The Nail in
Measurement — Bull-baiting — Poetical Resemblances — The
Crescent, Lion, and Bear— Monumental Inscriptions, 274 —
Ruyton of the Eleven Towns— Marmit — Spy Wednesday —
Montaigne's "Essays" — Divide et Impera — The Savoy
Chapel, London — The Heiress of Gight, 275— Funeral Sermon
on Rev. Francis Fuller — Epigrams — St. George and the
Dragon— Lowndes — "See one Physician" — "Sele" : " Wham"
— Shotten Herring— The " Christian Year," 276— " Arcandarn"
— Lt.-Col. Livingstone, 1689 — Curious Coin or Token —
Greek Anthology, 277— "The Sea-blue Bird of March"— Sir
Thomas Herbert of Tinterne— " The Cattle and the Weather "
—" Bloody "—" Embossed," 278.
Notes on Books, &c.
GOOD FRIDAY AND EASTER SUNDAY, TUMP.
CHARLES II.
The first-named day has almost ceased to be
considered a fast by a great number of people. By
many, indeed, its solemn significance is by no
means neglected: but while these attend the
churches, others make high holiday. On that day,
excursioH-trains begin running, foot-races are ad-
vertised, donkeys and gipsy drivers make their first
appearance for the season on heaths and commons,
and Cornish and Devonshire wrestlers struggle for
muscular triumphs in the presence of excited mul-
titudes.
There are many scattered records of how the
above days were kept in the olden times: but no-
where can be found more accurate chronicling than
in the Diaries of two contemporary men, of very
different quality, in the reign of Charles II.,
namely, Pepys and Evelyn. To commence with
the former, we find that on Good Friday, 1661,
Pepys dined with Sir W. Batten, " all fish dinner,
it being Good Friday." There was not much mor-
tification in such diet, nor much opportunity for
improvement in his afternoon's contemplation oi
" the forwardness of all things (in the City) for the
Coronacion, which will be very magnificent." On
the Sunday following, Pepys heard two sermons,
Mr. Jacomb's at Ludgate, who "made a gracy
sermon, like a Presbyterian," and Dr. Griffith's at
the Temple, " a good sermon for the day " — a day
which Pepys concluded by moderate tippling at the
Goat, at Charing Cross.
In 1662, Easter Sunday was observed by twice
attending church, and taking some delight in ob-
structing Lady Batten's attempt to take precedence
of the Pepyses in their common pew. We may see
how Pepys looked: "Having my old black suit
new furbished, I was pretty neat in clothes to-day :
and my boy, his old suit new trimmed, very hand-
tne."
On the 17th April, 1663, Pepys writes: "It
being Good Friday, our dinner was only sugar
sopps and fish; the only time that we have had
a Lenten dinner all this Lent." Shops were
open. On the Easter Sunday following, the
diarist says : " Up, and this day put on my close-
kneed, coloured suit, which, with new stockings of
the colour, with belt and new gilt-handled sword,
is very handsome." He adds :— " To church, where,
the young Scotchman preaching, I slept awhile."
As Pepys had but one Lenten dinner in 1663y
so in 1664 he had but one Lenten supper, on Good
Friday, which was of " wiggs and ale." " Wiggs "
were buns. How dress was the chief thing thought
of on Easter Sunday is seen in the entry for that
day. Pepys was too unwell to go to church, and
his wife stayed at home with him " much against
her will," for she had " dressed herself, it being
Easter day." " She had put on her new best gown,
which indeed is very fine now with the lace ; and
this morning, her taylor brought home her other
new laced silk gown, with a smaller lace, and new
petticoat I bought the other day; both very
pretty ! " Any Christian lady might find it hard to
forego divine worship when so prettily equipped
for it !
In 1665, some confusion attended the observances
of Good Friday. The fast seems, with some per-
sons, to have ended with a feast. Pepys went
to Lady Sandwich's, " where my wife all this day,
having kept Good Friday very strict with fasting..
Here we supped, and talked very merry." And
mirth continued to abound rather than mourning.
Good Fridays were only half observed; and on
Easter Sundays, the church opera was more attrac-
tive than church service. On the Easter Day of
1668, Pepys was at service in the King's Chapel.
He heard Bp. Keynolds (of Norwich), "the old
Presbyterian, begin a very plain sermon," which
Pepys left for " the Queen's Chapel, and there did
hear the Italians sing ; and indeed theire musick
did appear most admirable to me ; beyond any-
thing of ours. I was never so well satisfied in my
life with it." Office work on the Good Friday of
1669, and "a dull sermon and so home to dinner"
on Easter Sunday, are the records of those days ;
with the addition that Mr. and Mrs. Pepys " heard
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5th S. I. APRIL 4, 74.
excellent musick " in the afternoon at the Queen's
Chapel, and saw, through the window, the Prince
of Tuscany, " a comely, black, fat man in a
mourning suit." Worldly business was done on
that Sunday ; for, Simon Varelst, the Dutch
flower-painter, at his lodgings near St. James's
Market, showed Mr. and Mrs. Pepys " a little
flower-pot of his drawing, the finest thing that
ever. I think, I saw in my life ; the drops of dew
hanging on the leaves so that I was forced again
and again to put my finger to it, to feel whether
my eyes were deceived or not. He do ask 70Z. for
it. I had the vanity to bid him 20L It is worth
going twenty miles to see it."
There is a graver tone in the entries made by
Evelyn on this fast and the festival following it, in
his Diary. On April 4th, 1672, Evelyn says : —
" I went to see the fopperies of the Papists at Somerset
House and York House, where now the French Ambas-
sador had caused to be represented our Blessed Saviour
with his Disciples in figures and puppets, made as big as
the life, of wax-work, curiously clad and sitting round a
large table, the room nobly hung and shining with innu-
merable lamps and candles. This was exposed to all the
world ; all the City came to see it ; such liberty had the
Roman Catholics at this time obtained !"
Evelyn's practice during the Lenten season was
that of a class of persons of a more serious temper-
ament than that to which Pepys was subject. We
learn from the Diary of the former that on Easter
Day, 1673, Evelyn, with his son (who had, during
Passion Week, been under " more extraordinary
preparation," and had, on Easter Eve, been '( in-
structed" by "that learned and pious man, Dr.
Peter Gunning," Bp. of Chichester), received the
Sacrament. The entire week had been kept holy.
A little political feeling was mixed up with the
Sunday's observances. Evelyn, after the sermon
in the Royal Chapel, preached before the King, by
Sparrow, Bp. of Exeter, to a most crowded
auditory, says : —
" I staid to see whether, according to custom, the
Duke of York received the communion with the King ;
but he did not, to the amazement of everybody. This
being the second year he had forborne and put it off, and
within a day of the Parliament sitting, who had lately
made so severe an Act against the increase of Popery,
gave exceeding grief and scandal to the whole nation,
that the heir of it, and the son of a martyr for the
Protestant religion, should apostatize. What the con-
sequence of this will be, God only knows ! and wise men
dread ! "
At a later Easter period, Evelyn records, on
30th March, 1676, "this was the first time the
Duke appeared no longer in chapel, to the infinite
grief and threatened ruin of this poor nation."
Throughout this reign there was an afternoon
sermon on Good Friday, at Whitehall, before the
King. The attendant crowd was generally great.
We have another illustration of the time a few
years later. On the Good Friday of 1684, at
Whitehall, there was, says Evelyn, " such a con-
course of people with their children to be touched
for the Evil, that six or seven were crushed to
death by pressing at the chirurgeon's door for
tickets." On the Easter Sunday of the above
year, Evelyn received the Sacrament early at
Whitehall, with the lords and household. He
went thence to St. Martin's to hear Dr. Tenison,
and then returned to the afternoon service at
Whitehall, where, after the Bp. of Rochester's
sermon, " the King, with three of his natural sons,
the Dukes of Northumberland, Richmond, and
St. Albans (sons of Portsmouth, Cleveland, and
Nelly), went up to the altar." Evelyn notes that
" perfume was burnt before the office began." The
three young gentlemen preceded the King and
passed to the left of the communion table, the
Bps. of London, Durham, and Rochester being
grouped on the right. Charles advanced to the
centre of the table, knelt, made his offering,
" received " after the bishops, and then retired to
a canopied seat near the prelates. After Evelyn
had witnessed this exemplary sight, he wound up
his Easter Sunday by attending service at St.
Martin's again.
Before the next Good Friday, Charles had
vanished from the scene, and James was in his
seat ; not indeed in the Royal Chapel, but, though
he was absent, the officiating preacher, by order,
" made three congees " to the empty pew, whereas
formerly, when royalty was not present, one bow
was considered sufficiently respectful. ED.
ENGLISH SURNAMES.
In the list of documents set down by Mr. C. W.
Bardsley as having been consulted in the compi-
lation of his recently published Our English Siir-
names : their Sources and Signification (Chatto
& Windus), — a very laborious and voluminous, but
far from exhaustive work, I find no reference to
the "Table of Antient Surnames as they are written
in Old Records" appended to the Legal Inter-
preter of Dr. Cowel, who flourished (literally, for
he was a most flourishing writer on the Royal
Prerogative) in the reign of James I. Cowri's
list comprises some very curious patronymics left
unnoticed by Mr. Bardsley. For example, the last
named gentleman makes no mention of "Henry
de Chamfleur," who was Sheriff of Dorsetshire
(19 Hen. III.), and who is Latinised in old records
as " De Campo Florido " (there is a living French
author of eminence named Champfleury). Nor,
again, do I discover the illustrious but humbly-
derived name of " Stanley " in Mr. Bardsley's volu-
minous " Index of Instances." Now " Stanley " is
given by Cowel as " de Pascuo lapidoso " — of the
stony " lea " or pasturage — thus it may reasonably
be inferred that "Stanley" is identical with
" Stoneleigh." Mr. Bardsley half-jestingly traces
the name "Deyville," or "De Eyville," to the Father
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
263
of all Evil, mentioning the names of " Osbert Dia-
boltis " and " Roger le Diable " as occurring in old
rolls. He might have added the " Robert le
Diable " of Meyerbeer's opera. But Cowel gives
us, in his Antient Records, " D'Eyville" Latinised
as " de David Villa." I see no " Stradling" (who has
not heard of " Stradling v. Styles " ?) in Bardsley.
Cowel gives to " Stradling " the barbarous but lu-
minous Latinisation of " Easterlingus." Mr. Bards-
ley omits " Malpas " (" de Male Passu," or, better,
in Norman-French, "de mal," "mauvais," or "inau-
pas"). Napoleon III. had a Prefect of Police
named " De Maupas." Mr. Bardsley properly gives
the Norman " Orfevre," or " Orfeure," and the
Latin " Auri faber," as equivalents for " Gold-
smith"; but he remarks that there is a "curious
admixture of two languages " in " William le
Orbater." How ? What is this but wholly Norman-
French, " le batteur d'or " ? The name of " Orfeur "
is still to be met with in Cumberland. Further-
more, Mr. Bardsley's obvious derivation of the
names " Roper" and " Raper " from the occupation
of rope-making may be contrasted with a curiously
suggestive entry in Dr. Cowel's " Table." He gives
"de Rubra Spatha" as the Latin equivalent of
four English names — " Rouspee " (the modern
Rousby?), "Rooper," "Roper," and " Rospear."
Now between " de Rubra Spatha" and " Rospear,"
there seems most suspiciously inclined to wedge
itself the dreadful French name of ROBESPIERRE !
Finally, I commend Mr. Bardsley to the study of
Cowel's "Table" for valuable hints concerning
such names as " Borhard " (Burrard), " Sher-
borne"("de Fonte limpido"), " Sackville " (" de
Sicca Villa "), and, in particular, with regard to
the surname of the gloomy conspirator who con-
tinues to be damned to everlasting fame by little
boys on the 5th of November. It is amazing to
find Mr. Bardsley treating " Fawkes," or " Vaux,"
as a Christian name, and deriving it, together
with "Foulkes," "Fakes," "Faulks," " Folkes,"
"Foakes," " Faxrson," and " Fawson," from the
Norman " Fulk," or " Foulques." Were this de-
rivation correct, " Guy Fawkes " would have had
two Christian names, " Guido Foulques," and would
have had no proper surname at all. Cowel helps
us at once to the derivation, equally of the aristo-
cratic " Vaux," and the plebeian " Fawkes " and
" Foakes," by presenting to us the Latin equiva-
lent, " de Vallibus." Compare the French locution,
" Par monts, par vaux et par chemins." Guy
Fawkes may have been simply a descendant of
a Yorkshire yeoman feudally designated as " des
Vaux," or " of the Dales."
GEORGE AUGUSTUS SALA.
Brompton.
P.S. It must not, of course, be forgotten that in
many instances, when the mediaeval conveyancers
and law scriveners had to deal with very old
English names they, knowing nothing of their real
derivation, Latinised them quite arbitrarily. The
translation of " John Murray " into " Johannes de
Moravia " (a favourite quotation of poor dear Peter
Cunningham) may be taken as the simplest illus-
tration of my meaning.
SHAKSPEARIANA.
HAMLET (5th S. i. 25.) — In Act iii. sc. 2, Rosen-
crantz tells Hamlet that he has the voice of the
king himself for his succession in Denmark.
In Act v. sc. 2, Hamlet, speaking to Horatio of
his uncle's villanies, says that he
" Popp'd in between th' election and my hopes."
And when he dies, hearing of the arrival of young
Fortinbras, he says: —
" I do prophesy the election lights
On Fortinbras : he has my dying voice."
From the above passages SOLOMON REX may
gather that the Danish monarchy of Shakspeare's
Hamlet was elective, and, therefore, that the poet
made " no such mistake as putting a wrong man
on the throne " when he chose, for the purpose of
his plot, that Claudius should be king.
R. S. CHARNOCK.
Gray's Inn.
" VERY LOOSE." —
"King. — The extreme parts of time extremely forms
All causes to the purpose of his speed ;
And often, at his very loose, decides
That which long process could not arbitrate."
Love's Labour's Lost, Act 5, sc. 2
"Very loose" is an old archery phrase used by
Ascham and other old authors.
" Other and those very good archers in drawyng, loke
at the marke untill they come almost to ye head, then
they looke at theyr shaf'te, but at ye very loiose, with a
seconde sight they fynde theyr marke agayne." — Toxo-
philus.
W. L. RUSHTON.
KING JOHN, n. 2. — In two editions I find —
" But thou from loving England art so far,
That thou hast underwrought his lawful king."
Should it not be " this lawful king," namely,
Arthur ?
In another edition, Dublin, 1771, it is "its law-
ful king." It may be said that, in Shakspeare's
time, the pronoun " its " was in use, and that " his "
was common for it. But " her " would have been
more appropriate. Altogether I thiuk " this " more
likely to be the true reading.
In Act ii. sc. 6, " For because," which occurs in
our authorized translation of the Bible, is used
here also, " But for because he hath not wooed me
yet"; and elsewhere in Shakspeare. It is remark-
able that in Ulster the common people say " be-
hopes " for " hopes."
Act ii. sc. 2. "Bedlam, have done." Might
not this be " Beldame " ? S. T. P.
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5th S. I. APBIL 4, 74.
TENTH EXTRACT PROM MY OLD MS. NOTE-
BOOK.
(TIME HENRY VIII.)
PROPHECIES No. 4.
S. AND P.
" S and P shall stand in herd, vnto the kep of yc crowne
shall falle vpon his brother swerd. And shall all turne
vpp so downe/."
This I consider to be another of the prophecies
belonging to the Merlin series ; and, if I am not
mistaken, it refers to Richard III., when he was
Duke of Gloucester.
Before any interpretation is suggested it will be
desirable to understand the words which are quaint
and obscure.
1. To "stand in herd." I never met with this
phrase, but I suppose "herd" is the Anglo-Saxon
heord, power, position, prominence ; if so, "to stand
in herd " is to stand in power, to stand conspicuous,
to be foremost.
2. " Vnto," of course, means until.
3. " Kep of the crowne," is keeper of the crowne,
lord protector, or usurper.
4. To " falle vpon his brother swerd," is to
fall [the] sword upon his brother, or let fall the
sword upon his brother. Halliwell, in his Archaic
Dictionary [article FALL] gives us " Fall. To strike
down, let fall, make to fall."
5. " Shall all turne vpp so downe," i. e., shall
turn all the persons spoken of upside down, or
overturn them.
Halliwell, in the Dictionary above referred to,
takes notice of this compound, and gives us two
quotations to authenticate it. One is spelt iip-so-
doun, and the other up-$o-downe, as in the text.
Presuming the remarks given above to be correct,
and substituting the scope of the words for the
words themselves, the prophecy would run some-
what thus: —
" S. and P. shall stand amongst the foremost,
until the keeper of the crown [or lord protector of
England] shall let fall the sword upon his brother,
and turn all of them up-side-down."
Now for the explanation : —
By " S " I understand Somerset.
By " P " Plantagenet, Duke of York.
By " kep of the crowne," Richard, Duke of Glou-
cester, Lord Protector, after the death of Edward IV.
The brother murdered I presume to be George,
Duke of Clarence.
On the death of this brother, the three titles of
Somerset, York, and Clarence, all became extinct.
SOMERSET. — This title became extinct with John
Beaufort, Duke of Somerset, who had only one
child, a daughter named Margaret, who married
Edmund, Earl of Richmond, and was by him
mother of Henry VII. Certainly, a most con-
spicuous " S."
PLANTAGENET, Duke of York. — Edward IV. was
a Plantagenet, and head of the house of York.
When Richard, his youngest son, was murdered in
the Tower, this title also became extinct.
Again, the Duke of Gloucester could not be
king, but only " keeper of the crown," whether as
usurper or lord protector, while his elder brother
George was alive; but when the Crooked-back fell
upon him, and murdered him, then also the title
of Duke of Clarence became extinct, and all three
titles were turned up-side-down.
The prophecy may therefore be paraphrased thus :
S[omerset] and P[lantagenet] shall stand in herd
[be the most conspicuous families of the time being,
and shall remain so] vnto [until] the kep of ye
crowne [the keeper, usurper of the crown, or lord
protector of the realm] shall falle upon his brother
sword [shall let fall upon his brother George, Duke
of Clarence, the sword of the executioner, or in
other words, shall compass his death] ; And [then]
shall all [these famous titles] turne vpp so downe
[be overturned].
I may here repeat the remark already made
respecting a previous prophecy : If a seer can see
coming events by their shadow, few events of history
stand out more prominently than those referred to
above ; and in a book compiled during the reign
of the Tudor dynasty, this prophecy has a peculiar
fitness.
According to classic fable, the events of the
world are wrought by the fates into a kind of
tapestry. Now, suppose every event in the whole
history of man to have been woven or painted, say
on canvas, from the beginning. To that eye which
sees the whole canvas, there is no past, no future,
all is present ; but to those who see only a part at
a time, as in a diorama, the scenes rolled up are
past, and those to be unrolled are future. To the
spectator, then, there is past, present, and future,
but to the dioramist all is present.
There is some shadow of truth in this illustra-
tion. To the eye of Omnipotence there is no past,
no future, the diorama of man's history is all before
it ; but to us, the changing spectators, the unrollerl
parts are future, and the rolled-up parts have gone
by. Besides the exhibitor, his employes are also
in the secret, and others not in his employ catch
glimpses now and then of the exhibition. The
very pot-boy sees something of the mystery, the
occasional messenger who strays into the room to
deliver a packet or telegram, and even the street
urchins who pry through chinks and keyholes.
The assistants and employes are the angels and
prophets, the others are the Merlins, the Nostra-
damuses, and Zadkiels. Sometimes these latter
catch only a very imperfect view of the detail, but
the rough outline and more conspicuous figures
cannot fail to make a pretty correct impression.
Again, it is no matter that one is born and
another dies. These are the puppets taken for
5ta S. I. APKIL 4, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
265
the nonce from the box to be sent across the stage
to play their role in the shifting scene, and though
they appear one minute, and disappear the next,
are as well known to the exhibitor and his assistants
as the diorama itself, of which, indeed, they form
essential parts. E. COBHAM BREWER.
Lavant, Chichester.
THE DESCENT OF WILLIAM PENN FROM THE
PENNS OF PENN, CO. BUCKS.
The founder of Pennsylvania was lineally de-
scended from the Penns of Penn Lodge, in Wilt-
shire, and this last-mentioned family claimed to be,
and was acknowledged as, a branch of the family
of Penn, of Penn Manor, in co. Bucks, where they
had been seated from, probably, the Norman
Conquest.
Though the descent has been many times as-
serted, the links connecting the family of Penn
Lodge with that of Penn Manor have never, I
believe, been published. The accompanying letter
of the Hon. John Penn, sen., Esq., together with
the very kind communications of Mr. Win. Under-
hill, of Kentish Town, have enabled me to con-
struct a pedigree giving the particular connexion
between the two families.
As I write from America, it will be understood
that I cannot personally investigate the matter
further, but must be content to let the lineage rest
on the foundation of Mr. Penn's letter and the
Harleian pedigree, both of which I believe to be
trustworthy, but am unable to test.
While I invite criticism, I beg that critics will
exercise consideration, and, if it is found that the
pedigree I give is incorrect, will remember that I
could not go beyond the authorities I had, and
that I submit it for confirmation or the reverse, as
the event may prove.
The published pedigrees of William Penn, which
I have seen, go no higher than William Penn of
Minety and of Penn Lodge, in Wiltshire, whose
will was proved in 1592, thus missing the con-
nexion between that family and the one of Penn
Manor, co. Bucks.
The assertion that William Penn himself claimed
descent from the race of Tudor is based but upon
tradition, and the substantiation of the accom-
panying pedigree will disprove it finally.
1. Was Hampden of Kimble of the same race as
John Hampden the patriot ?
2. William, founder of Penn Lodge. Mr. John
Penn's letter states his family lived at Penn Lodge
for three generations. Do these three generations
include the above-mentioned William? I have
presumed so ; but it may have been otherwise ;
and in this latter case another generation must be
added to the pedigree.
3. Giles, it appears from Mr. John Penn's
letter, had an elder and a younger brother ; the
elder one leaving an only daughter. She, as heiress,
carried Penn Lodge into the family of Pleydall.
So says Mr. Penn, in his Memorial of Admiral
Sir William Penn ; but Mr. Dixon, in his Life of
William, the founder of Pennsylvania, remarks that
it was sold on the death of its owner (a William
Penn) to pay his debts. How is this 1
Pedigree, showing Hie exact connexion between the family
of Penn of Penn Lodge, in Wiltshire, and that, of Penn
of Penn Manor, co. Bucks, submitted for confirmation.
David Penn, Esq., Lord=Sibyl, dau. of AVilliam
of the Manor of Penn,
in co. Bucks, and repre-
sentative in chief of his
family. Monument in
(Greatl) Hampden
Church.
Hampden, of Kimble. To
the care of this lady King
Henry VIII. intrusted
his children, the Prince
Edward and the Princesses
Mary and Elizabeth.
John, of Penn, eldest son and
heir, whose male line became
extinct on the death of Roger
Penn, of Penn, Esq., in 1732,
whose sister, however, by her
marriage, carried the Manor
into the family of Lord Scars-
dale.
William, a monk:
of Glastonbury,
who, marrying
after the Refor-
mation, founded
Penn Lodge, in
Wilts. Buried at
Readon (Read-
ing?).
William, of Minety and of=
Penn Lodge, in Wilts. Will I
proved April 21, 1592.
William=:Margaret, dau. of
i John Rastall.
I
Giles=:Margaret Gilbert.
Sir William=:Margaret, dau. of
I John Jasper.
William, Founder of Pennsylvania.
Extract of a Letter from John Penn, sen., Esq., to
Dr. Smith, of Pennsylvania.
" My uncle has within a very few years had several
letters from a lady in France, who claims relationship
with our family, and in order to make it out she sent him
a long pedigree. Her name was De Penn, and she is
wife to a Monsr. de Bonsul, who is a Lieutenant-General
in the French service and Governor of Grenoble, where
the family had been long settled before the Conquest, at
which time, or soon after, during the reign of King
William, some of them first came to England. It is very
certain the family has been seated several hundred years
at Penn, in Buckinghamshire, and most probably gave
their name to that estate, which is of considerable extent,
and reckoned to be worth two thousand pounds per
annum several centuries ago.
" My uncle had once occasion to examine the Doomsday
Book, and observed that a Mr. Penn, owner of Penn,
was fined for a misdemeanor in the time of Richard I.*
* See the Roll of Fines of Richard I., not the Dooms-
day Book of William the Conqueror.
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5th S. I. APRIL 4, 74.
" Sir John Penn attended Edward III. into France
and distinguished himself in his wars, for which the king
• knighted him.
" The family continued at Penn till the year 1732,
when Roger Penn, dying unmarried, left his estate to his
sister, who was mother of the last Sir Nathaniel Curzon,
and grandmother of the present Lord Scarsdale, and
>[r. Ashton Curzon, who is now in possession of it, it
being settled on him by his father on his marriage, and
he generally passes the summer in the old mansion.
" King Henry VIII. intrusted to the care of Sabilla
Penn, wife of David Penn, his son, Edward VI., and his
two daughters, Mary and Elizabeth, as you will see by a
print of an old monument in Hampton* Church, which
I intend to send you by the first opportunity. From this
couple our branch of the family breaks off. One of their
younger sons, named William, was a monk in the Abbey
of Glastonbury, in Somersetshire, when King Henry
dissolved the monasteries in England ; but out of regard
to his parents he granted him some land belonging to the
Abbey which lay in the forest of Braydon, in Wiltshire.
There he built an house, and called it Perm Lodge, and,
as he had quitted the religious order to which he belonged,
lie married and had several children.
"He is buried in Reaydonf Church, and his family
remained in possession of the lodge for three generations.
Then, the eldest of three sons leaving an only daughter and
she marrying, the estate was carried into another family.].
" The second was a merchant, and traded to Cadiz and
Leghorne, by which he made his fortune, and was the
father of Sir W. Penn the admiral, whose son you know
was the first proprietor." — (Page 96, Common-Place Book
ef the Hon. John Penn, jun., Esq., Penn MSS., Lib. of
Penna. Historical Soc., Philadelphia.)
Pedigree if Penn of Penn, co. Bucks, from the Harleian
MSS., contributed by Mr. William Underhill.
John Penn=Elizabeth, dau.
of Penn. I of Peter Harley.
David of Penn,=Sybil, dau. of Hampden
t< Iran tee under
the Crown.
of Kitnble, § nurse to Ed-
ward VI.
John of Penn, = Ursula, dau. of Wai- Margaret,
S living 32 Eliz., listen, §of Kuislip. wife of
died shortly af- Middlesex, survived Gifford.
terwards. I her husband.
I ~T~ ~~l I
William=Martha, Griffin of Hig-=Anne, John, Edward,
of Penn,
heir.
S Eldest
son.
dau. of gendon, § alias dau. d.s.p. d.s.p.
Ferd. Griffith, " Hig- of
Poulton gendon," pro- Will,
of Bow- bably Hughen- Bourne,
ton. den, near High
Bucks. Wycombe, Bucks.
Second son.
John, heir=
William.
The Name of the District of Penn, in BuclcinglMmshire,
probably derived from the Family of Penn, and not
from the Celtic " Pen" a height.
It is generally presumed that the name of the
manor and parish of Penn pertained to that dis-
* Great Hampden, Bucks? Is the monument or
print still extant !
t Bradon parish, Somerset, or Reading, Berks'?
t That of Pleydall, or Pleydell 1
§ Additions by Mr. Underbill.
trict long before the coming of the Penn family ;
that it is the Brito-Celtic pen, a height, and points
to the elevated land in proof, and that the family
took their name from it ; but, on the other hand, it
is asserted that the family gave their name to the
locality. Now, in proof of this is the fact that the
early members of the family are called De la
Penne, and not De Penn. Had they assumed the
name from the place, they would have simply called
themselves De Penn, not De la Penne ; for it can-
not be presumed that the French knight* to whom
the land was given understood Brito-Celtic, and
knew that in it " Pen " meant a height, and that
scholarly elegance required the insertion of the
definite article "the" (la) between it and the
" de," viz., De la Penn, i.e., of the height — not at
all. Had he taken his name from the place, he
would simply have called himself De Penn ; for the
word " pen," or " penn," would have conveyed no
particular meaning, and hence the definite article
would have been omitted.
This refers solely to the district of Penn, co.
Bucks, and those other places, of course, which are
well known to have been named after members of
the family, but not to the other places in England
called "Pen," or those local names formed with
this word, of whose British origin it is undoubted
evidence. " Penne," of the French dictionaries, is
feminine, and translated " a barb of an arrow, a
beam-feather, a quill." P. S. P. CONNER.
Philadelphia, U.S. America.
TRAVELLING IN ITALY FORTY YEARS SINCE. —
The names in the following letter, no less than the
information it contains, may give it interest to
some readers. It was written by a lady in August,
1832, from Mola di Gaeta :—
" I am very fond of this place, where the sea-breezes
and bathing are so refreshing in summer time. The
remains of antiquity in this neighbourhood are wonder-
fully little known, considering they lie near the road to
Naples. Madame and Mdlle. Vernet, the wife and
daughter of M. Horace Vernet, a famous French painter,
and Director of the French Academy at Rome, are here.
We mess together, and drive and walk out, &c. The"
are very pleasant people. Mdlle. is a beautiful girl, about
eighteen, and highly accomplished. She speaks and
writes English like a native, and is very well acquainted
with that part of our literature which is usually read by
foreigners ; but it is rare at her age to find such a correct
judgment both as to books and persons. Madame V.
was making a calculation the other day of the expenses
of living in this country, which I will tell you. She and
her daughter travel in their own carriage with a pair of
horses, coachman, footman, and maid. They are not
economical people, and like to live well. She tells me
the whole expense of their travelling, living, &c., comes
to about 3001. a year, so that she thinks two ladies living
together would find 5001. sufficient for everything, in-
cluding dress and any other little items. But, of course,
* " Pen, De Penne, La Penne," families in France (see
Rietstar, Armorial General, par J. B. Rietstap, Gouda
1861.
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t requires some experience as to treating with inn-
keepers, and new comers could not easily manage so well,
particularly English people."
The young lady here referred to afterwards be-
came the wife of Paul Delaroche, and died child-
less, in 1845. If the union had been crowned with
a son, the issue was to have perpetuated the two
great artist names as Vernet-Delaroche. But, alas !
from the time of Shakespeare, and earlier, such
anticipated hereditary glories have been denied to
the descendants of men of great genius. The
makers or inventors rarely become founders of
families. C.
tftttertat
[We must request correspondents desiring information
on family matters of only private interest, to affix their
names and addresses to their queries, in order that the
answers may be addressed to them direct.]
WILLIAM, ABBOT OF EAMSEY, 1160 TO 1176. —
I ask information as to the family to which he
belonged. He was, in 1157, Prior of St. Martin
des Champs, near Paris, where he was educated,
and was probably translated thence to Eamsey.
A note in Dugdale's Monasticon (8 vol. edition)
says he was made Abbot of Ramsey through the
instrumentality of Thomas a Beckett. He was
translated to the abbacy of Cluny in 1176 or 7,
and died at the monastery of Caritas in 1179,
being buried before the high altar of St, Martin
des Champs (Gallia Christiana, vol. iv.). Lorain
(Essai Historique de I'Abbaye de Cluny) calls him
Ouillaume d'Angleterre, and says he was "providus,
honestus, carus, acceptus," but gives no clue to his
family. Migne(Troisieme Encyclopedic Thtologique,
tome 16, art. "Cluny ") says : —
" De ce moment en effet, le monastere est livre a une
.succession d'abbes feodaux, battant monnaie, crenelant
des forteresses, entourant Cluny d'une bonne ceinture de
murailles, mais plus connus par 1'illustration chevaleretque
de leurs noms, que par des services rendus & 1'Eglise, in-
dices trop clairs d'un amoindrissement continu de 1'Esprit
Cenobitique; ainsi passerent Hugues de Blois, Ktienne
de Boulogne, Gauthier de Chatillon, Guillaume d'Angle-
terre," &c.
Abbot William had a brother Simon Fitz-
William, whom he persuaded Emma, widow of
Sir Eustace de Walton, of Walton, co. Hunts, to
inarry, circa 1162. This manor was given to the
Abbey of Ramsey, in 1134, by the widow of
Eustace de Sellea, Albreda, whose inheritance it
was ; but, during the subsequent civil wars,
Eustace, her son, forcibly seized and held the
manor against the abbey until his death. The
marriage of Simon to his widow was probably a
step towards the peaceable recovery of the manor
by the Abbot of Ramsey. From the connexion
which this Simon Fitz- William and his son
William had with the Abbey of Saltrey, which
was founded by Simon de St. Liz, second
Earl of Northampton, as evidenced by certain
charters, I conjecture William, the father of
the Abbot and Simon, to have been a son of the
first Simon, Earl of Northampton, who is said to
have died in France, circa 1100 (query, a,t Senlis,
near Paris). ' I imagine he may have had a son,
William, who remained at Senlis, although there
is no mention of such a son in Dugdale's Baronage;
but neither is the William de St. Liz, brother of
the third Simon, Earl of Northampton, mentioned
in Dugdale, although there certainly was such a
William, who is mentioned in the charter of Simon
flving the church of Southwike to the Knights
emplars, after the decease of his brother William.
Considering how greatly indebted the first Simon
was to William the Conqueror, he might well have
named a son after him. JAMES HIGGIN.
Sunny Hill, Higher Crumpsall, Manchester.
" London Characters, or Anecdotes, Fashions, and Cus-
toms of the present century, by Sir Barnaby Sketch well,
scene and portrait painter to the Argyle Rooms and other
places of elegant resort, in two volumes. Embellished
with appropriate and humorous engravings. The third
edition, with additions and improvements." London, B.
Crosby & Co. 2 vols. 8vo. 1809.
No. 1, The Agra, is in the centre, surrounded by
No. 2, Fatima pinning up a new list, No. 3, Tailor-
iska, No. 4, Captain Sandonesso, No. 5, Cupid the
arbitrator of promotions.
Who is the portrait intended for contained in
the centre lozenge of the first sheet of engravings,
referred to as Agra at the bottom of the page, in a
humorous book entitled as above? Have they
any political interest attached to them ]
JOHN W. JARVIS.
ARCHIBALD HAMILTON ROWAN. — He was an
Irish gentleman who was obliged to fly the country
for political reasons in the last decade of the last
century. After living some time in France, he
went to America and settled there. I shall be
glad if any one will give me any further particulars
about him, such as the special political circum-
stances in which he was concerned, and the date of
his death. C. K. P.
JOHN STUAIIT MILL. — I have a dim recollection
of seeing somewhere (was it in Fraser or the Con-
temporary ?), that, from some unpublished papers of
John Stuart Mill, evidence was obtained that he
was beginning to think that, after all, there was
something in the belief in a God. Can you tell
me whether or not there is any ground for that
statement, or whether or not the statement has
been made? I cannot get the idea out of my
head that I have seen it somewhere ; I cannot have
surely dreamt it. J. H.
TETLEY FAMILY. — I ask for information as to
any branch of this family between 1560 and 1660.
Is there any record of the first movement of ;>,
branch of the family into Yorkshire; also, any
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trace of male descendants from John Tetley or
Tytley of King's Lynn ? He died about 1580.
J. G. T.
HERALDIC. — To what family do the following
arms belong : barry of six ar. and az. a crescent or.
crest a demi-Pegasus ? What arms (if any) were
borne by Wride and Mines, both west of England
families ? ANTIQUARY.
KEY. GEORGE ARNET, A.M. — I have in my
possession a portrait, dated 1740, and marked
Rev. George Arnet, A.M., Vicar of Wakefield,
Eector of Wheldrake, and Chaplain to His Grace
Launcelot, Archbishop of York. I want— 1. To
connect this English branch of the Arnet. or
Arnott, family with the Arnots of Balcormo, county
Fife. 2. To obtain access to a pedigree of Geo.
Arnet, A.M., which I have reason to believe is in
existence. 3. To obtain authentic information of
any kind about himself and his descendants. Can
any of your contributors assist ?
JOSEPH MATTHEWMAN.
Stanley, Wakefield.
CAPT. WILLIAM KIDD, hanged at Execution
Dock, London, May 12, 1701, in 1695 was master
of the brigantine Antegoa, sailing between London
and New York. In Governor Bellomont's des-
patches to the Board of Trade, at the time of hi
arrest in Boston, he is called a Scotchman. In a
volume entitled Celebrated Naval and Military
Trials, by Peter Burke, London, 1866, he is saic
to have been born in Greenock, Scotland. Can
any one furnish more definite information of his
birth and parentage ? There were several families
of the name residing in different parts of Scotland
one of which was that of James Kidd of Cragie, in
Forfar, who had three sons, Patrick, William, am
Eobert, as appears by Inquisition or Verdict o
Assize returned to the Court of Chancery, May
1663. See Record Commissioners' Inquisitionun
Retornatarum Abbreviatio, vol. i. Forfar, No. 402
vol. xxvii. fol. 104, of Original Eecord. Was thi
son William the famous captain, and was his nam
confounded by the ballad maker with that of hi
younger brother, Eofoert ? J. J. LATTING.
New York.
EARLY BRITISH ANIMALS. — Will some on
kindly tell me where I may find notices of th
indigenous animals of Great Britain in the earlie;
historical times ? PELAGIUS.
" A NEW HISTORY OF ENGLAND, from the earliest ac
counts of Britain to the Ratification of the Peace of Ve
sallies, 3763, by Thomas Mortimer, Esq., His Majesty
Vice Consul for the Austrian Netherlands. Printed b
J. Wilson and J. Fell, London. 3 vols., folio, 1764, 5, 6
I bought the above some time since, and wis
to know further respecting Mr. Mortimer. Is h
an authority ? I cannot find him named i
owndes, or the Biographical Dictionary. There
re-very good maps in the work. Perhaps some of
our readers will give me an idea of the value of
ic books. HIBERNIA.
FORFARSHIRE. — Can your readers refer me to
ny genealogical account of the leading families
f Forfarshire, e. g., Erskine, Carnegie, Ogilvy,
Jnthrie, &c. ? W. C. J.
Universities Club.
ARCHBISHOP ADAMSON OF ST. ANDREWS, 1575.
— Where is to be seen an authentic portrait in oils
f this Archbishop of St. Andrews? A brief
otice of him is given in Chalmers's Biographical
dictionary, London, 1812, vol. i. p. 144.
J. MANUEL.
Newcastle-upon-Tyne.
SKERRY-BRAND. — I am told that this term is
jsed by Carrickfergus fishermen for sheet lightning ;
s it known elsewhere 1 W. H. PATTERSON.
Belfast.
"ATJRIGNY'S ISLE." — What does Macaulay
nean in his lay on The Spanish Armada by
The crew had seen Castile's black fleet, beyond Au-
rigny's isle."
A CONSTANT HEADER.
KNOCK FERGUS. — In Northouck's History of
London this name occurs as a place so well known
;hat he describes Wellclose Square as lying between
it and Eatcliffe Highway. Is it one of the places-
removed in the construction of the London Docks ?
Is there any record of all the streets removed in
the construction of the Docks, and was any church
pulled down, as in the case of the St. Katherine
Docks? C. A. W.
Mayfair.
PORTRAIT SEAL OF OLIVER CROMWELL. — In
the 1st Series of " N. & Q." (vol. vii. p. 427) it is
stated that a small steel seal, bearing the head of
Oliver Cromwell, engraved by Thomas Simon, was
in the possession of Y. S. M., of Dublin. I should
feel very grateful if this gentleman, or any one else,
could inform me where the seal now is, and enabl~
me to procure a cast or impression from it. I
require the information for a work I am now pub-
lishing on the Medallic History of Oliver Cromwell,
where I would duly acknowledge any help on this
subject. I suppose that this small seal was the
same that Thomas Hollis purchased of Yeo the
engraver in 1759, as mentioned in the Memoirs of
the former, page 81.
HENRY W. HENFREY, F.E. Hist. S., &c.
14, Park Street, Westminster.
BAR SINISTER, — Every one acquainted with
the rudiments of Heraldry knows that the expres-
sion Bar Sinister is ridiculous, and yet I have so
often heard it spoken of as a mark of illegitimacy,
and met with the phrase in authors who might
5» S. I. APIUL 4, 74.]
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269
have been expected to know better, that I think
there must be some reason for its currency that
does not appear upon the surface. Can it be simply
that bastardy, being a legal bar, has given rise to
this improper allusion to Baton Bend or Bendlet
Sinister ? J. H. I. OAKLET.
Wyverby, Melton Mowbray.
AUTHOR WANTED. —
" From folly's laugh, from splendour's idle glare,
The routs of riot and the toils of care,
To contemplation's pure and placid joys,
Oh, let me here a calm asylum find,
And leave the busy and the gay behind."
The above lines must have been written before
1801. They are on a summer-house in a midland
county. They may be the work of an amateur, but
seem bad enough for any of the great poets of the
last century. ELLCEE.
ETCHED FEMALE PORTRAITS. — I have a set of
ten, fairly executed, during, probably, the latter
part of the last century. In the upper right-hand
corner of each portrait is the name in initial
letters, &c., of each lady, as follows : —
Mar" W— r Sop* B— m
Ply* J— n Luci M — n
Cy1 La— s Ab1 C
Flo1 A— w Bet-sy Ch— r
Cis* D— v Blisa F— k
These plates would seem to belong to some book.
Can any of your readers supply the title ; or, if
struck off without letter-press, do the ten plates
form the complete set 1 I should be pleased to
have the names filled out, and, indeed, any other
information concerning these very curious portraits.
H. S. A.
BYGOE FAMILY. — What arms, if any, were
borne by Philip Bygoe, Esq., High Sheriif of
King's County, Ireland, in 1662? Was he of
foreign descent ? H. S. G.
THE GERMAN DRAMA. — Will some one ac-
quainted with the histoiy of -the German Drama
inform me whether any of the following plays have
been performed, and of the dates of their perform-
ance I — A. Klingemann's Moses, a drama, pub-
lished 1812 ; and Martin Luther, a drama.
Have either of the sacred dramas of Klopstock —
viz., The Death of Adam, David, or Solomon, or
the tragedy of Hermann, by the same author —
been performed ? R. INGLIS.
SIR PHILIP SIDNEY'S " ARCADIA." — D'Israeli, in
his Amenities of Literature, has the following in
the form of a foot-note : —
" In the late Mr. Heber's treasures of our vernacular
literature there was a copy of The Arcadia, with manu-
script notes by Gabriel Harvey. He also divided the
work into chapters, enumerating the general contents of
each — ' Bib. Heberiana,' Part the First. A republi-
cation of this copy,— omitting the continuations of the
Romance by a strange hand, and all the eclogues, and
most of the verses, — would form a desirable volume, not
too voluminous."
Has such an edition of The Arcadia been pub-
lished, or is there any modern and abridged edition ?
W. A. C.
Glasgow.
" MATHEMATICAL! RECREATIONS; or, a Collection of
sundrie excellent Problemes out of Ancient and Modern
Phylosophers both usefull and Recreative. London,
printed for Richard Hankiu in Chancery Lane, neare
Sargeants Inn. 1677."
I should be glad to learn something of this very
curious old book ; it bears the name of E. Johnson,
Mile End Koad, 1797, who, I am told, was known
in that locality as a collector of curiosities of all
kinds. The work is profusely illustrated, but in
the rudest style, the cuts being printed on separate
pieces of paper, and pasted into their places in the
book. C. W.
SIR J. PRESTWICH, BART.— Where is the manu-
script from which Sir J. Prestwich, Bart., printed,
in his Kespublica, 4to., 1787, the " cornets, or flags
and pennions of sundry commanders .... in the
armies of the Commonwealth " ] K. P. D. E.
" DEANERIES OF CHRISTIANITY." — What is the
nature and origin of that ecclesiastical office known
as a " Deanery of Christianity " ? Is it mentioned
by the chief text-writers on the Canon Law, and
when is it first spoken of ? Mr. Hayward states
in his essay upon pedigrees, in the latest volume of
his collected contributions, that the office was
known in mediaeval France. At the present time
there are at least three such " Deaneries of Chris-
tianity" in England, namely, in the dioceses of
Exeter, Lincoln, and Peterborough.
H. DE B. H.
New University Club.
THOMAS FRYE. — Is there extant a list of por-
traits by this painter? Where did he die, and
where is he buried 1 OTTO.
Rtffftf.
BLACK PRIEST OF WEDDALE.
(5ft S. i. 89, 176.)
This priest, who lived about the middle of the
thirteenth century, may have been characterized as
" black" from the colour of the habit of his order, or,
as the Culdees were often called " black monks," he
may have been of the Culdee establishment of St.
Andrews, to which house Wedale — valued in the
ancient Taxatio at seventy marks — belonged. The
Bishops of St. Andrews had a seat, as well as a
storehouse or grange, at Stow ; it was called " The
3tow of Wedale," and several charters were granted
ay these bishops here (Chartulary of Cambus-
ienneth). A. S. A., however, errs in saying that
Wyntoun allowed there were " only three origi-
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nally" who enjoyed the privilege 01" sanctuary.
The line immediately preceding the three he quotes
shows this : " Off this Lawch are thre capytale " ; that
is, the Black Prest, &c. ; and he sets down " Quhae-
wyse be " by mistake for " Quha-ewyre (whoever)
be Lord off Abbyrnethyne." (Book vi., chap. 19.)
In reply to the other query, " Where was Wed-
dale 1 " it may be answered that the name was
applied often to that mountainous tract, a forest
(originally, or, in the time of David I., part of the
royal forest of Selkirk and Traquair), which lies
between the Gala Water, on the south-west, and
the Leader (Leder) on the east, both of which,
rising in the same hill-range, pursue a southerly
course towards the Tweed, into which they fall at
different points near Melrose. It is understood,
however, that the name was more properly applied
when given to that part of the valley of the Gala
near the present village of Stow, or possibly to the
upper valley of the Allan Water (Aloent), which is
near, and east of, Stow. The Allan, like the other
two waters, holds a southerly course, and is inter-
mediate to them, draining this district near its
centre, and entering the Tweed at Bridgend, where
is a way called the " Girthgate " (the way of, or to,
the Sanctuary). Wedale has been glossed by
Nennius as " vallis doloris "= Woe-dale (Hist. Brit.,
c. 63, Gale's Scriptores, vol. i.). During the twelfth
century, and beginning of the following, the pos-
session of this tract was frequently in dispute. The
monks of Melrose had a quarrel with Richard de
Moreville, who was Dominus de Lauderdale, and
High Constable of Scotland prior to 1180, with the
men of Wedale belonging to St. Andrews, and also
with the Earls of Dunbar, as in right of part of
Lauderdale ; and these disputes having resulted
frequently in bloodshed and murder, the name
Woe- or Wae- dale, as has been supposed, was
applied.
The church or chapel of Wedale was dedicated
to the Virgin. Its site was on the east bank of
the Gala, little more than half-a-mile below the
present church of Stow, and within the grounds of
Torsonce. Part of the walls is included now in a
stone fence ; and hard by is " The Lady Well,"
besides a huge stone, now broken up, on which,
according to tradition, was the imprint of the
Virgin's foot. Nennius, already referred to, men-
tions a cross made at Jerusalem in the form of the
true cross, the image of which, and of the Virgin,
King Arthur carried on his shoulders when he
routed the Pagans in the battle of Castle-Gunnion, at
Linn, on the Gala side (Skene) ; and an interpolation
of Nennius bears that a fragment of this cross was
preserved, with great veneration, at Wedale. The
custody of this fragment here may have led to the
conferring of the privilege of sanctuary; the " black
prest," one of the "thre capytale," having, as
Chalmers says, founding on Wyntoun, had the pri-
vilege of the law known as that of " Clan Mac
Duff," which is explained by Wyntoun (Book vi.,
;hap. 19, line 21).
Milne, minister of Melrose, who wrote a descrip-
ion of this parish prior to 1743, mentions the
' Girthgate," as does Jeffrey in his recent History
of Roxburghshire (L 64). Both speak of it as
stretching northwards from Bridgend, where was a
Bridge of the Tweed, up the valley of the Allan to
Soutra (Soltre), where, Milne says, was an hospital
founded by Malcolm IV. (in 1164) for the relief of
he poor and sickly, and the entertainment of pil-
grims. It enjoyed, like Wedale, the privileges of
sanctuary; and Milne refers to the " gate" as being,
in his day, " so good and easy that it may put one
n mind of the roads that led to the Cities of
Refuge," while Eoy accounts it part of a Konian
way (Mil. Antiquities). As the source of the Allan
approaches close to the chapel of Wedale, being only
a little east of it, it is only probable that this gate
conducted to the latter place as well as to Soltre
Hospital and Chapel, both situated on a hill of this
name, 1,150 feet above the sea level, a dreary spot,
and not distant from the west end of the Lammer-
moor Hills. There was besides another passage to
Soltre, which, in charters, is described as a calceia
(=.via strata), and called " Malcolm's rod " (Liber
de Melros). It led also northwards from the Tweed,
near Old Melrose, up the valley of the Leader ; and,
as Malcolm IV. was founder of this hospital, his
name was given to this way, as the conjecture is,
because it conducted to it.
One of the disputes between Melrose and the
men of Wedale was settled bjr William the Lion
in 1184; the King being personally present, as well
as his brother David, and certain bishops, earls,
barons, with "probis hominibus." An assize was
convened, consisting of Richard de Moreville and
twelve " fideles homines," who swore upon the
" reliquias ecclesie nostre cum timore et tremore "
(Clironica de Mailros). This assembly was con-
vened in the open air, as would seem, and as was
usual at this time. The place is described as
"super Crossleiye" (i.e., upon the cross place); and
as the jurors, when sworn, were moved by fear and
trembling, may it not be inferred that this arose
from the great veneration paid to this fragment of
the cross, possibly the chief of the relics put to use
on this occasion,— the establishment of, as it was
called, " The Peace of Wedale "'? There is a place
called Crosslee on the Gala side, at the very boundary
of the counties of Mid-Lothian and Roxburgh,
the southern boundary also of the possessions
of the men of Wedale ; and here, as on neutral
ground, this adjustment of mutual rights may have
been decreed. At the same time, it is true that, at
about the distance of a mile and a half to the south,
yet on the south side of the Gala, outwith tke
disputed ground, and adjacent to Torwoodlee, is
an elevated and conspicuous hill, called " Crosslee,
or the Mains Hill"; and it may have been desig-
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nated by Mains because near the Mains of Tor-
woodlee, an ancient manor, with an old extensive
castle.
The name Newthorn, mentioned by A. S. A.,
may be a misreading of Nenthorn, a shortened form
of Naythan's thorn, or THIRN, a manor with a
church, and now the name of a parish. It is
situated on the Eden water, a tributary likewise
of the Tweed, which it joins close upon the south-
eastern boundary of Roxburghshire. Nenthorn
and Newtoun were separate manors, but both
adjuncts of the Constabulary of Lauderdale, be-
longing to the great De Morevilles; and, having
passed to St. Andrews, were acquired by Kelso
from the latter, by way of exchange, in 1136.
Hence, possibly, the reason why Bernham, Bishop
of St. Andrews, dying at Nenthorn, should have
been interred at Kelso, as stated. L.
FULLER'S " PISQAH-SIGHT OF PALESTINE " (5th
S. i. 203.) — MR. DAVIES is to be thanked for his
extracts from a work which, in addition to being a
most delightful book, contains a fund of matter
interesting alike to the philologist and antiquarian.
The word rank-rider seems to be either in
reference to the moss-troopers, or (more probably)
to the " horsiness " of the Yorkshiremen. The latter
feature is alluded to in Fuller's Worthies (§ Yks.,
p. 187) : " Well may Philip be so common amongst
the gentry of this county, who are generally so
delighted in horsemanship." Rank is, perhaps,
used in the sense of stout, bold, instances of which,
as an adverb, occur in Fairfax's Tasso : —
" That rides so rank, and bends his lance so fell ; "
and in the Fairy Queen : —
" The seely man, seeing him ryde so ranch."
Copper roof. — Meldorpe, or Melthorpe, is men-
tioned in Heylyn's Cosmographie — a book which,
in its day, "no gentleman's library" was "with-
out " — as the chief town of " Ditmarsh " on the
sea, " the inhabitants of which are so wealthy that
many of them cover their houses with copper "
(p. 486, edit. 1657).
Comical. — How does this word get the uncom-
mon meaning ascribed to it 1 It originally meant
what relates to Comedy, then droll, diverting. In
this sense it is used by Fuller himself, in The
Worthies, § Somersetshire, p. 27, Where he combats
the opinion that Gildas wrote the comedy of
Aulularia in Plautus : —
"I do not believe that Gildas had a drop of comical
bloud in his veines, or any inclination to mirth and
festivity ; and if he had prepared anything Scenical to be
acted on the Theater, certainly it would have been a
Tragedy relating to the ruin and destruction of his
nation."
In the passage cited by MR. DAVIES the word
is taken in connexion with Job xlii. 10. A Man-
chester gentleman, well-skilled in Latinity, whose
opinion I once asked about this passage, was
inclined to take it in the sense of Comicus ;
e. g., Cic. De Amic., § 99, comicos senes — old
gentlemen in a comedy, i.e., fit to make the
denoumcnt. This ingenious explanation is quite
in harmony with what might be supposed to pass »
in Fuller's mind ; but it will hardly account for the
use of the word in the following passage in the
Triple Reconciler, p. 58, where, alluding to the
first three adventures of Barnabas and Saul in
their ministry, Fuller says : —
"His [Paul's] next voyage ends sadly and sorrowfully
with Blazphemie and Persecution from the Jews at
Antioch, though it began Comically and courteously with
this fair invitation in my Text : ' And after the reading
of the Law and the Prophets, the Rulers of the Synagogue
sent unto them, saying, Ye men and brethren, if ye have
any word of exhortation for the people, say on' (Acts
xiii. 15)."
I add the following curious words from the same
folio : — Do (ado, trouble), bk. iv. p. 28 ; flowretry
(floweriness), iii. 367 ; foggy (adj. abounding in
fog, i.e., rank grass: the word is still used in
Lancashire), iii. 437; gceyitry (gay garments,
bravery), ir. Ill ; laxity (roominess, width),
ii. 122 ; need-not (a superfluity), i. 8 ; nunnery
(the principle of virginity in religious seclusion),
ii. 95 ; pain-ivorthy (worthy of care), iii. 316 ;
redvindant (as a noun, what is excessive), ii. 217 ;
sept, an enclosure, from sepire. This word is un-
noticed in this, its English dress, by Webster and
others. It occurs, however, as an English word,
in Liddell and Scott's Lexicon, iii. 427 ; tell-troth
(a truth-teller), iv. 55 ; umstroJce (the circumference
of a circle — see Trench, English Past and Present,
p. 71), i. 46 and v. 182, &c.
Perhaps MR. DAVIES, or other correspondents,
can explain the phrase " that Paroyall of Armies,"
applied to the army of the three kings (2 Kings,
iii. 9) who went against Mesha. Pisgah-Sight,
bk. iv. p. 26.
From my lists of Fuller's obsolete words, the
following are found in The Pisgah-Sight : curstness .
(vexation, altered by a modern editor to cursed-
ness /), iv. 91 ; derive (to turn the course of), iv. 48;
dorp (a village), i. 18; hoit (to leap, caper; hence
hoity-toity), iv. 110; napery (table-linen), iv. 106;
notted (shorn, Saxon hnot); paunch (to eviscerate),
iii. 349 ; ray (to array), iv. 105 ; royolet (an unim-
portant king), i. 22; sherd (a fragment; hence pot-
sherd), iii. 348; spong (an irregular, narrow, and
projecting part of a field), iv. 22 and 34, label being
used, iv. 25, as also lancination, v. 164, in much
the same sense. J. E. BAILEY.
" & bidd him bring with him a 100 gunners,
& rawnke ryders lett them bee,
& lett them bee of the rankest ryders
that be to be ffound in that countrye."
Will Stewart & John, 11. 93-6, Percy's Folio MS.
In a repetition of this verse, 11. 297-300, the
second line of quotation has ranlce for ravmke.
Percy's note is : —
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" Rani: rider is still used in Leicestershire, & signifies
a keen eager rider, one that doth not spare horse-flesh." —
B. Percy's Fol, MS. iii. p. 219.
JOHN ADDIS.
" JURE HEREDITARIO " (5th S. i. 109.)— A com-
parison of the early authorities on English law has
led me to the conclusion that the proper interpre-
tation of the phrase "jus hereditarium " is "an
estate of inheritance," and not " hereditary right."
Glanville (temp. Henry II.) de Legg. vii. 1, writes:
— " Quilibet etiam cuicunque voluerit potest dare
quandain partem sui liberi tenement! in remunera-
tionem servitii sui vel loco religioso in eleemosinam,
ita quod si donationem illam seisina fuerit sequuta
perpetuo remanebit illi cui donata fuerit terra ilia
et heredibus suis, si jure hereditario fuerit eis con-
cessa." Bracton again (temp. Henry III.), de Legg.
ii. 29, " Est etiam alia causa acquirendi rerum do-
minia quae dicitur causa succcssionis et quse corn-
petit singulis heredibus de omnibus de quibus
antecessores eorum obierunt seysiti ut de feodo vel
etiam seysiti aliquo tempore ut de feodo et jure
hereditario quod quideni descendere debet heredibus
propinquioribus," &c. Fleta (temp. Edw. I.), half
quoting from this and the following passage in
Bracton, has, Jur. Ang. vi. 1 : — " Hereditas autem
est in universum jus quod defunctus habuit suc-
cessio, a qua dicitur qui est qui succedit in uni-
Tersum jus quod defunctus habuit. Jus enirn here-
ditarium quandoque quasi ponderosum descendit
et quandoque ascendit," &c. The word "here-
ditarius" is, of course, in pure Latin " hereditary ,':
" coming by inheritance "; thus " auctio hereditaria
controversia hereditaria," Cic. ; " Agri hereditarii,"
Plin. ; but this does not help us, since either of the
renderings above given involves a slight departure
from the original use. Floras, indeed, has "jure
hereditario " indisputably in the sense of " here-
ditary right." Of the occupiers of Ager Publicus
he writes: "Et tamen relictas sib'i a majoribus
sedes setate quasi jure hereditario possidebant," iii
. 13. I cannot recall the phrase "jus hereditarium'
in any other classical author, nor is it necessary
since for our purpose the mediaeval use is mon
important. Now, from the passages above quote<
from Glanville, Bracton, and Fleta, it appears (1
that for them jus hereditarium is almost a synonym
forfeodum, or rather for that part of the connotation
offeodum which implies the quantity of the estat
(Wright's Tenures, ed. 1730, p. 150) ; and (2) tha
what Florus expresses by "jure hereditario," thej
would have expressed by "jure successionis," o
" causa successionis." To these considerations
may add the fact that the word " hereditarius " i
used in mediaeval Latin as a substantive, signifyin
absolute owner. In a letter of Henry IV. ap. Eymer
8, 611, we have "hereditarium et dominum," an
conf. a chart ann. 1240 ex chartul. S. Vandregesi
i. 11, in which volume also the variety "jure here
ditarii " occurs. H. M. K. P.
This, according to lawyers, " denotes a right, or
rivilege, in virtue whereof a person succeeds to
ic effects of his ancestors." " Apud Anglos dicitur
rnne (haereditamentum) quod jure hsereditario ad
seredem transeat Hseres quippe succedit in
raadia, et immobilia; executores in bona, et rein nio-
ilium." — Spelrnan, Gloss., sub " Hsereditamento."
'o acquire by " hereditary right " evidently then
means to inherit real property by descent, of which
roperty the person so inheriting would be the
leir-at-law. The non-jurors gave the highest place
o this kind of right, and held the jus hcereditarium
o be = to the jus divinum, God's own appoint-
ment, and consequently indispensable, or, as they
erm it, indefeisable. — Chambers's Diet, under
'hereditary." EDMUND TEW, M.A.
INSCRIPTION ON BRONZE MORTAR (4th S. xii.
89; 5th S. i. 115.) — There can be no doubt as to
,he inscription M. OF T. inquired about. If he
will look carefully, I think he will find that the
word he gives as "Goot" is really " Godt." This
would make the rest clear. I bought a mortar in
an old shop in Utrecht last May, which has the
same inscription, but the date on it is 1597, instead
of 1629, as on that which M. OF T. describes. Mine
s very highly ornamented with arabesque designs.
T. M. FALLOW.
Chapel Allerton, Leeds.
POPLAR WOOD (5th S. i. 67, 96.)— There are
several kinds of poplar, but not any of them make
good timber. A gentleman in Essex once told me
the black and white poplars, when cut into boards,
were preferred for fitting up a dairy to _ any other
wood, for some peculiar property,— I think it wa&
that mice would not come near it. J. B. P.
Barbourne, Worcester.
COWPER : TROOPER (5th S. i. 68, 135.)— My wife
saw some years ago a letter from, the poet Cowper
to, the late Mrs. Charlotte Smith, the poetess, in
which he stated the pronunciation of his name
was " Cooper." That letter was in the possession
of a lady in Leamington, who was niece to Mrs.
Smith. JOSEPH FISHER.
Waterford.
" CLOTH OF FRIEZE," &c. (5th S. i. 127, 193.)—
In Woodburn's Gallery of Rare Portraits the por-
traits of Brandon and his Queen-Duchess appear
together in one engraving, with another figure,
apparently a jester, a little in the background, and
whose appearance suggests the idea of his being at
the moment in the act of giving the wholesome
counsel embodied in the motto. The engraving is
described as being " from the original in the pos-
session of Samuel Egerton Brydges, of Denton, in
Kent, Esq." JOSHUA SWANK.
PHILIP OF SPAIN AND THE GARTER (5th S. i.
148, 195.)— When the Prince Philip arrived near
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the Needles, on the 19th of July, 1554, he wa?
met by the English Admiral, who accompaniec
him to Southampton, where he arrived on the
20th. Holinshed says : —
" The Earle of Arundell, Lord Steward of the queen's
house, being sent from hir to present to him the George
and the garter of the order (of the which fellowship he
was at the last chapiter holden by the confreers chosen
one of the companie), met him upon the water, and at
his coming to land, presented the said George and garter
unto him."
De Thou states, xiii., that on the 19th the Prince
was met by " the Lord Paget, the Earls of Eutlanc
and Arundel, the Lord Privy Seal, and the Lord
Treasurer, all Knights of the Garter." This was
outside the Needles, and it is not to be doubted
that they came on board the Prince's ship. They
then came on to Southampton Water, arid
" On the next day the Prince, being received on board
a ship magnificently furnished for the purpose, together
with the Duke of Alya, &c., landed at the Mole of the
Harbour ; and, mounting a horse royally equipp'd, which
was ready laid for him, made his entry into the town."
Lingard, whose account is taken chiefly from
Noailles, makes no mention of the meeting on
the 19th, but describes that on the 20th thus: the
Prince
" Entered the Royal yacht, where he was received by
the Duke of Norfolk, and the Earls of Arundel, Shrews-
bury, and Derby : he now took the oath before the Council
to observe the laws, customs, and liberties of the realm.
The moment he set his foot on the beach he was invested
with the order of the garter, and a Royal salute was
fired." — (v. 65.)
This is evidently a very questionable story; and
the following lines, which describe " the pleasure
displayed in his countenance charmed the specta-
tors," are in direct opposition to the terse words of
. Fox (iii. 102)
" The Prince himself was the first that landed : who
immediately as he set foot upon the land, drew out his
sword, and carried it naked in his hand a good pretty
way. Then met him a little without the Town, the
Maior of Southampton with certain Commoners, who
delivered the keyes of the Towne unto the Prince, who
removed his sword (naked as it was) out of his right into
his left hand, and so received the keyes of the Maior
without any word speaking, or countenance of thankful-
nesse, and after a while delivered the keys to the Maior
againe. At the towne gate met him the Earl of Arundel
and the Lord Williams, and so he was brought to his
lodging."
It appears almost certain that the presentation
of the George was private, and probably the day
before the Prince landed. His public investiture
took place at Windsor on the 5th of August, and
if Lord Arundel was sent by the Queen to give
him the George on his landing, if he saw the Prince
in his own ship on the 19th, and in the Royal
yacht in Southampton Water on the 20th, it is
most improbable that he would delay giving him
the George till the moment the Prince stepped on
shore. From De Thou's account, it is most pro-
bable that the Queen's welcome and the garter
were both presented on the 19th.
EDWARD SOLLY.
ISABEL, OR ELIZABETH, WIFE OF CHARLES V. :
"A LOWITS" (5th S. i. 107, 175.)— Is not "a
lowits " a form of alow, and the meaning of the
context, "All Pauls was hung on the lower part of
its walls with black cloth" ? Alongst for along is
not uncommon. In Barnabe Googe's Cupido Con-
quered (Arber's Eeprint, p. 122) we have —
" A longest a Ryuer fayre and broad,
they spye a pleasaunt way."
And amongst is still used indiscriminately with
among. Why not a lowits for alowist, for alowst
= alow? JOHN ADDIS.
HAUNTED HOUSES (5th S. i. 148.)— Old Par-
sonage, at Market, or East Lavington, near Devizes,
has been pulled down by the present owner of the
property, and two good cottages are built on its-
site.
The ghost reputed to have haunted the Old
Parsonage is described as that of a lady supposed
to have been murdered, and some have also fancied
that a child came also to an untimely end in the-
house. Marks of blood were to be seen both on
the stairs and in the corner of a back room. A
cabinet-maker, now living, who had workshops on
the premises some years ago, remembers marks of
blood on the floor of the back room upstairs which
could not be washed out, but never remembers to-
have heard any noises. Previous to this, in 1818,.
a witness states his father occupied the house, and
says —
" That in that year on Feast-day, being left alone in'
the house, I went up to my room — it was the one with
marks of blood on the floor. Some time after, I distinctly
saw a white figure glide into the room ; it went round by
the washstand by the bed, and there disappeared. I
rushed from the room and fell fainting on the floor (my
"ather had just returned). It was a long time before he
could bring me round, when I told him what I had seen.
[ now (1874) think it must have been fancy, but the
figure is still in my mind as vividly as ever."
At one time, the Old Parsonage was used as a
school. A resident of Lavington says : —
At that time I was a teacher in the school, and on one
Sunday afternoon, when all the children were assembled,
we heard a terrible noise, just as if buckets of lime were
>eing emptied from a height on to the floor below us ; the
children screamed, and we were all rery frightened.
The then vicar offered to search the place, and we thought
lim very brave. Of course he found nothing."
In connexion with the above, it ^may be stated
jhat part of the road leading from Market Laving-
on to Easterton, which skirts the pond in the
grounds of Fiddington House, used to be looked
ipon as haunted, both men and women fearing to
)ass after dark, and many declared it was haunted
>y a lady — " the Easterton Ghost." In the year
869 a wall was built round the road-side of the
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pond, and close to the spot where the lady was
seen two skeletons were disturbed — one of a woman,
the other of a child. The bones were buried in
the churchyard, and no ghost has been seen since.
It was about this time the haunted house was
pulled down. I have a pen-and-ink sketch of the
Old Parsonage. E. W. T.
TAVERN INSCRIPTIONS (5th S. i. 165.) — I think
A. J. M.'s is beaten by this, which is excogitated
for an inn, though not yet actually put up : —
" Brandy, whisky, rum, and gin.
Come, O come, this house within :
Gin and whisky, rum and brandy,
Here you '11 find all four are handy ;
Rum and brandy, gin and whisky,
Come and drink and make you frisky ;
Whisky, brandy, gin and rum.
Come ! come ! come ! come ! "
The simplicity and earnestness of the last line are
plainly never enough to be commended.
C. F. S. WARREN, M.A.
THE NAIL IN MEASUREMENT (5th S. i. 168.) —
IBy mentioning the " hand." M. D. seems to think
that the nail should have some reference to it. It,
however, has not. The mercer's measure of a yard
is divided out, on the edge of the counter at which
lie serves, into sixteen parts by nails hammered
into the counter. It is usual for such people, work-
women and others, to speak of the divisions as
•''half-yard," "quarter-yard," and "eighth," but
'from the next division, sixteenth, being a long word,
as I suppose, they prefer to call it a nail, being the
smallest division so marked. P. E. M.
A nail is a measure of two inches and a quarter
(or the sixteenth of a yard), as being taken from
the end of the thumb-nail to the second joint.
SPARKS HENDERSON WILLIAMS.
BULL-BAITING (5th S. i. 182.) — MR. GROVES
attributes the sport of bull-baiting to a desire to
render bull beef more easy of digestion. It is very
kind of him, but I am afraid that he is mistaken
in doing so. The laws which were passed, making
it illegal to kill a bull unless he had first been
baited, arose solely from a desire to prevent the
decay of English courage, and to preserve a manly
sport. In fact, just such arguments as have been
used in reference to prize-fighting. I must cer-
tainly say that prize-fighting, brutal as it is, is
infinitely preferable to bull-baiting, as in the latter
sport an inoffensive animal was hounded to death,
whilst in the former, one at least of the ruffians got
a good thrashing. I may add that the Spaniards
retain bull-fighting in all its barbarity, and have
not yet arrived at the stage of excusing it by say-
ing that it makes the beef tender. NUMMUS.
POETICAL RESEMBLANCES (5th S. i. 164.)—
Thanks to W. A. C. for his illustrations of Burns's
lines: —
" The rank is but the guinea's stamp
The man's the gowd for a' that."
("Is there for Honest poverty," 1st verse.)
Allowing the neatness of these lines, I have never
thought them so strikingly original as they are
claimed to be. The metal and coin metaphor, in
one way or another, is a commonplace- with the
old dramatists. In Measure for Measure (i. i. 49)
Angelo says : —
" Let there be some more test made of my metal,
Before so noble and so great a figure
Be stamped upon it."
Again, in Massinger's Great Duke of Florence (i. i.)
Charomonte says : —
" They (i. e. princes) being men, and not gods, Contarino,
They can give wealth and titles, but no vertues."
********
But in our Sanazarro 'tis not so,
He being pure and tried gold ; and any stamp
Of grace, to make him current to the world,
The Duke is pleased to give him, will add honour
To the great bestower."
Often the metaphor passes on into the notion of
base metal and counterfeit coin. In Measure for
Measure (n. iv. 45) Angelo talks of : — •
" Their saucy sweetness that do coin heaven's image
In stamps that are forbid."
In Webster's White Devil (in. ii. Hazlitt's Lib. of
0. Authors) we have : —
" What 's a whore 1
She's like the guilty counterfeited coin, *
Which, whosoe'er first stamps it, brings in trouble
AH that receive it."
In Northivard Hoe (i. ii. Hazlitt's Webster, i. 186)
there is this allusion : —
"... Silver is the king's stamp ; man God's stamp,
and a woman is man's stamp ; we are not current till we
pass from one man to another."
In Lyly's Euphues, The Anatomy of Wit
(Arber's Keprint, p. 191), this sentence occurs : —
" There is copper coine of the stampe yat gold is, yet
is it not currant."
JOHN ADDIS.
THE CRESCENT, LION, AND BEAR (5th S. i. 209.)
— My memory affords the lines, but not the source.
Their modern origin is patent on their face : —
" In twice two hundred years the Bear
The Crescent shall assail ;
But if the Cock and Bull unite,
The Bear shall not prevail.
But mark, in twice ten [or twelve] years again —
Let Islam know and fear ! —
The Cross shall stand, the Crescent wane,
Dissolve, and disappear."
HERMENTRUDE.
MONTfMENTAL INSCRIPTION (5th S. i. 105, 198.)
— Is S. aware of Count Gleichen's story — how the
Turkish princess rescued him from slavery, how
he married her, and how he obtained from Pope
Gregory IX. a dispensation to keep his two wives
at once? If not, I would refer S. to Bayle's
Dictionary, s. v. " Gleichen." Wordsworth has a
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ballad on the subject, called " The Armenian
Lady's Love." James Grant also has put the
story into his novel of Letty Hyde's Lovers.
CHARLES F. S. WARREN, M.A.
See the tale of " Melechsala," by Musseus, in
Carlyle's Translations from the German, ed. 1863.
JONATHAN BOUCHIER.
" KUYTON OP THE ELEVEN TOWNS " IN SHROP-
SHIRE (5th S. i. 208.) — This is a name acquired
from the eleven towns which at some period con-
stituted the manor. Eyton, in his Antiquities of
Shropshire, says : —
" We must presume that some of them are (like the
Domesday Udeford) lost. The existing Townships of
Ruyton are Cotton, Eardeston, Shelvock, Shotatton, and
Wykey, but it is not probable that more than 2 out of
the 5 were Members of the Original Manor."
Gough, an old Shropshire historian, writes, in
his curious old MS. (1701) History of Myddle, co.
Salop : — •
" I shall sometimes mention the Eleven Towns. I
will here give an Account of what they are, and first
their names are Old Ruyton, Cotton, Shelvocke, Shott-
atton, Wykey, Eardeston, Tedsmeare, Rednall, Haughton,
Suttbn, Fefton. These Eleven Towns make up the
Manor or Lordship of Ruyton, and they are an allotment
in the Hundred of Oswestry."
H. W. A.
Shrewsbury.
All the names given by Gough remain, but some
of them do not represent even villages in the
present day. Mr. Anderson, in his book on Shrop-
shire, says : —
" Early annexed to Fitz Alan's barony, through the
influence of this great chieftain doubtless it was, that
Ruyton came to be annexed to the Hundred of Oswestry,
over which Fitz Alan's interest was paramount."
A. R.
Croeswylan, Oswestry.
MARMIT (5th S. i. 209.)— If G. W. M. means
Papin's digester, he will find an article on the sub-
ject in the Journal of the Society of Arts for Jan.
10, 1873, p. 133. R. B. P.
SPY WEDNESDAY (5th S. i. 228.)— The Wednes-
day in Holy Week is so called from the part
enacted by Judas, and the term is, I believe, one
which was introduced into England by the Irish.
At any rate, I have never heard it among Pro-
testants, while it is in constant use among Irish
Catholics, especially those of the lower orders.
The equivalent term in Irish is dia aoine-a-bhrath,
" the fasting-day of the traitor (or spy)."
JAMES BRITTEN.
British Museum.
" It being Spy Wednesday, the Bourse remained
closed." Mr. J. N. CHADWICK (1st S. v. 511)
quotes this from the Spanish Neirs in the Tinws
April 14, 1852, and asks the origin of the term.
CEYREP states (p. 620 of the same volume) that
the Wednesday in Holy Week is so called because
Judas on that day made his compact with the
Sanhedrim for the betrayal of our Blessed Saviour.
SPARKS HENDERSON WILLIAMS.
18, Kensington Crescent, W.
[E. H. C. also refers to Dr. Brewer's Dictionary of
Phrase and Fable. In reference to this subject, a
curious custom of the Franciscans of Amboise will be
found related in " N. & Q.," 2nd S. vii. 26.]
MONTAIGNE'S "ESSAYS" (5th S. i. 208.)— The
poet Moore in his beautiful poem, My Birth-Day,
refers to the expression inquired for, and in a foot-
note quotes the words — " Si je recommences ma
carriere, je ferai tout ce que j'ai fait," and at-
tributes them to Fontenelle. J. SWANN.
Norwich.
" Vain was the man, and false as vain,
Who said, ' Were he ordained to run.
His long career of life again,
He would do all that he had done.'
Ah ! 'tis not thus the voice that dwells
In sober birthdays speaks to me ;
Far otherwise, of time it tells
Lavished unwisely, carelessly," &c.
w. A. a
Glasgow.
The passage asked for is, I presume, the follow-
ing : — " Were I to live my life over again, I should
live it just as I have done. I neither complain of
the past, nor do I fear the future." It is to be
found in book iii. chap. 2, " On Repentance."
EDWARD SOLLY.
[Montaigne's words are : " Si j'avois ti revivre, je re-
vivrois comme j'ay vescu."]
The feeling referred to by G. G. is expressed by
Sir Thomas Browne in his Eeligio Medici (vide,
1685 edition, pp. 5 and 22. R. R.
" DIVIDE ET IMPERA " (5th S. i. 209.)— F. Z,
will find this precept in Coke's Institutes, iv. 35.
I quote from the 1797 edition, vol. vii. p. 35 : —
" When it was demanded by the lords and commons
what might be a principall motive for them to have
good successe in parliament, it was answered, Eritis_ in-
superabiles, si fueritis inseparables. Explosum est illud
diverbium ; divide et impera, cum radix et vertex imperii
in obedientium consensu rata sunt."
SPARKS HENDERSON WILLIAMS.
18, Kensington Crescent, W.
THE SAVOY CHAPEL, LONDON (5th S. i. 188.) —
Charles Knight, in his History of London, says: —
" During the reign of Edward VI. (1547-1553) the
hospital, which had become, it is said, a harbour or re-
ceiving place for loiterers, vagabonds, and strumpets, was
suppressed, and the revenues given to the newly created
hospital of Bridewell, but on the accession of Mary waa
soon re-established."
E. H. COLEMAN.
71, Brecknock Road, N.
THE HEIRESS OF GIGHT (5th S. i. 169.)— The
surname of the heiress of Gight and Shives is not
276
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5IU 8. 1. APRIL 4, 74.
known. A family derived its name from the
latter place, of which, presumably, was Bishop
Schives of St. Andrews, in the fifteenth (?) century.
SCOTUS.
FUNERAL SERMON ON REV. FRANCIS FULLER
(5th S. i. 209.) — There is a copy of this discourse
{8vo. Lond., 1702) in Dr. Williams's Library,
Grafton Street, W.C. I am sure that the Rev.
Thomas Hunter, the courteous librarian of this
valuable collection, will be only too happy to show
it to your correspondent J. E. !B.
V.H.I.L.I.C.I.V.
A copy of —
" A Funeral Sermon Preached upon the death of the
Kcverend Mr. Francis Fuller, who Deceased July 21,
1701, Aetat. 64. By Jeremiah White, Sometime Fellow
of Trin. Coll. Cantab., And now a Preacher of the
<3ospel in London. London : Printed for A. Baldwin, in
Oxford-Arms-Yard in Warwick Lane, 1702."
as inquired for by J. E. B., will be found in the
British Museum, 1417, a. 26. JOHN TAYLOR.
Northampton.
EPIGRAMS (5th S. i. 226.)— H. B. gives the
authors of the epigrams he has translated with one
exception. Allow me to supply the omission, and
thus add to the interest of the epigram " On a
Physician who was a thief." It is by Callicter.
Jacobs, 1794, iii. 8. H. P. D.
ST. GEORGE AND THE DRAGON (5th S. i. 227.) —
In 1511, the miracle-play of St. George was acted
in a field at Basingborne (Collier's Annals of the
Stage, i. p. 7, note ; ii. p. 148). Mr. Collier (A riuafo
of the Stage, i. p. 20) has also given us another
miracle-play of St. George, acted at Windsor before
Henry V. in 1416. But it appears that this is a mis-
take, the supposed tableaux being only "sotelties"
{that is, designs in pastry) at the feast (see Retro-
spective Revieiv, May, 1854, p. 244, and Bye's
England as Seen by Foreigners, p. 237). For other
instances of " sotelties," see Mr. Furnivall's Index
to Babees Book, &c., E. E. T. S. Mr. Halliwell
gives, in his Dictioiwry of Old English Plays, " St.
George and the Dragon, a farce or droll acted at Bar-
tholomew Fair in the seventeenth century " ; and
also " St. George for England, a play, by William
Smith, seemingly destroyed by Warburton's ser-
vant." As none of the above three plays is
extant, my note will, I fear, be of little service to
T. L. JOHN ADDIS.
LOWNDES (5th S. i. 227.)— For French literature,
Bru net's Manuel (with which X. Y. doubtless is
acquainted), and the under-mentioned works may
be mentioned :—
1. La France Litteraire, ou Dictionnaire Bibliogra-
phique de la France ainsi que des litterateurs Grangers qui
ont 6crit en franqais, plus particulierement pendant les
dix-huitieme et dix-neuvitime siecles, par J. M. Querard,
10 vols. (1827-1839). La. Literature Fran<;aise Conttm-
poraine (supplementary), G vols. (1842-1857).
2. Catalogue Q'envral de la Lilrairie Fran^aise pen-
dant 25 ans, 1840-1865, redige par Otto Lorenz, 4 vols.
(1867-1871). '
Reinwald's Catalogues, issued annually, form,
with those I have named, a very faithful and com-
plete rcsumi of French literature during the periods
mentioned. E. A. P.
" SEE ONE PHYSICIAN," &c. (5th S. i. 228.)—
This epigram, with some variation, is given in a
note in Nichols's Select Collection of Poems, 1780,
vi. 308 :—
" Dr. Redman's epigram, on Four Physicians, reminds
me of the following on two :
" A single Doctor like a sculler plies,
And all his art and all his physic tries ;
But two Physicians, like a pair of oars,
Conduct you soonest to the Stygian shores.' );
The note is signed " D.," probably John Duncombe.
He does not appear to have known the author or
the origin of the epigram. H. P. D.
"SELE": "WHAM" (5th S. i. 228.)— Cowel
(Law Diet.) says "Selion of Land, selio terras,
may be derived from Fr. seillon,* ground rising
between two furrows ; in Lat. porca, in English a
ridge of land, and contains no certain quantity,
but sometimes more and sometimes less : therefore,
Crompton (Jurisd. Courts, fo. 221) saith, that a
selion of land cannot be demanded, because it is a
thing uncertain. It may, not without some proba-
bility, be deduced from Sax. sul or syl, i. e.,
aratrum, whence also the Fr. seillonner, i. e., arare.
Charta Vet. Achronica maketh six selions and a
half to foe but one acre. ' Sciant — quod ego
Margeria, filia Willielmi de Ryleia, dedi, et.
Emmie filiae mere pro homagio et servitio suo
unam acram terra? in campo de Caniurth, scil. illas
sex Seliones et dimid. cum forera et sepe et fossato
qure jacent in Aldewic juxta terrain, &c.' — See
Hade, and Kennet's Glossary, in Selio." " Wham"
would seem to be from o-o/z(£os, porous, spongy,
fungous, empty, hollow, through one of the Gotho-
Teutonic languages. Conf. D. swam, Dan. and
Sw. svamp, G. schvamm, M.-Goth. swamms, Isl.
svampi, spongia ; A.-S. swam, a mushroom, toad.-
stool.t R- S. CHARNOCK. '
Gray's Inn.
SHOTTEN HERRING (5th S. i. 146, 194) certainly
means " a gutted herring dried for keeping." The
following, from an account in Gardner's History of
Dunwich, p. 148, is an early instance of the word :
1451. " Rec of Thomas Comber 2500 full heryns,
200 schotyn." EDWARD PEACOCK.
THE "CHRISTIAN YEAR" (5th S. i. 128, 195.)
— Keble's use of the word eager appeal's to me to
be that which is explained by MR. BUCKLEY, and
that the impetuous rush of the water is signified.
* Mod. Fr. si/ton, a furrow.
f Conf. the Finnic sitome and suomilin ; Lappic same
and samelad:.
5th S. I. APRIL 4, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
277
Compare the " eager-hearted " hero of 'Tennyson's
Locksley Hall with his " wild pulsation," " yearn-
ing for the large excitement," and his spirit leap-
ing within him. The horses, too, in Pope's lines
were about to make an eager bound : —
" The panting steeds impatient fury breathe,
But snort and tremble at the gulf beneath ;
Eager they view'd the prospect dark and deep ;
Vast was the leap and headlong hung the steep."
CUTHBERT BEDE.
" Though all seem gather'd in one eager bound."
It is worth while to note that there is another
special meaning of the word eager besides that
mentioned by MR. JOSCELINE COURTENAY (p. 195).
The Eager (otherwise spelt akar and higre) is
another name for the bore which runs in certain
rivers — the Severn and others (see " N. & Q.," 4th
S. xi. 510). The Prompt. Parv. gives—" Akyr of
the see flownyge. Impetus maris " (see MR. WAY'S
note, and see " Higre " in Mr. Wedgwood's Dic-
tionary). Thus, if we read " eager - bound "
(hyphened), the meaning would be, " a rush like
that of the Eager." I think, however, that this is
unnecessary. " Gather'd in one eager bound "
gives me the notion as of a leap in the hunting-
field. It is clearly contrasted with the previous
line,
" Spreads many a mile of liquid plain,"
which expresses the sluggish flowing of the water
nearly as well as Tennyson's " full-fed river wind-
ing slow" (Palace of Art). The reality is the
extension " many a mile " of the lake ; the seem-
ing from the height is the one rush of water —
•' the miles are gathered in one eager bound."
JOHN ADDIS.
" ARCANDAM" (5th S. i. 48, 135.)— There is a bio-
graphical account^ of Alcadrin, or Alkandum,
Arabian astrologer, in Didot's Nouvelle Biographic
Univcrselle, edited by Dr. Hoefer. Paris, 1852-
•66. This learned gentleman, whom we know as
Arcandam, Alcadrin, Alcandrin, or Alkandum,
<lied in the seventeenth century.
SPARKS HENDERSON WILLIAMS.
An earlier edition is : —
Arcandam. Booke to find the fatall Destiny, Constitu-
tion, Complexion, and Naturall inclination of every Man
and Childe by his Birth, &c. Tourned out of French by
William Warde. Lond., 1578.
The French book from which Warde made his
version was entitled Livre d' Arcandam, Docteur et
Astrologue, Lyon, 1576, which was in its turn a
translation of the Latin treatise, Arcandam doctor
peritissimus ac non vulgaris, Astrologus, de Verita-
tibus, et Prcedictionibus Astrologice, Paris, 1542.
Permit me to remind your correspondent that
a, reference to Lowndes and Brunet would have
supplied him with this information.
C. ELLIOT BROWNE.
It seems probable that Alhazen, or Alha§an,
was the actual writer, as to whom see the excellent
Biblio. Generale of Didot Freres (Paris, 1855),
where, at the foot of the article on this writer,
will be found many references to catalogues, &c.,
of Arab writers. Koger Bacon appears to have
seen a book of his on logic. ALFRED C .
LT.-COL. LIVINGSTONE, 1689 (5th S. i. 108, 175.)
— The late Bishop of Moray, David Low, used to
say, and he was certainly an authority on such
matters, that it was Viscount Kilsyth (W. Living-
stone) who shot Dundee at Killiecrankie, that he
might marry the Viscountess Dundee.
E. L. BLENKINSOPP.
CURIOUS COIN OR TOKEN (5th S. i. 87, 117.)— The
explanation by T. J. A. (p. 117) is, I believe,
erroneous. The article in question is merely a
trade token, of which so many were issued about
the time mentioned (1794), with, probably, the
name worn away. I have a token with the same
device on the reverse, with the legend " Payable
at Jno Fielding's, Grocer and Tea-dealer." On the
obverse is displayed a coat of arms, with crest and
supporters, with the legend "Manchester pro-
missory Halfpenny," 1793. The arms and motto
are too much worn to be describable, but are cer-
tainly not those of Manchester. The device on
the reverse is the brand or " trade-mark" of the
E. I. Company, and was placed on every chest of
tea imported by them.* It was no doubt used by
tea-dealers to imply that the tea sold by them was
genuine. The meaning of the scales is obvious.
Their being evenly suspended would imply just
dealing. W. H.
Shrewsbury.
GREEK ANTHOLOGY (5th S. i. 88, 117, 155.)— It
may be useful to know that there is a very com-
plete index to Brunk's^ua/ecta Veterum Poetarum
Grwcorum, printed in the fourth Arolume ofFabricii
Bibliotheca Graca, p. 500 (Harle's edition), entitled
" Index Epigrainmatum." The editor says, " Sub-
jiciam indicem epigrammatuin alphabeticum, ex
diversis libris conflatuni, quern singulari hurna-
nitati eel. Heynii me debere, cum testificatione
grati animi profiteer." There is no " Index Epi-
grammatum" to the edition of Brodreus from
which I quoted the passage under "Kilkenny
Cats," p. 46. I find, however, the following note
in the Bibliotheca Parriana, p. 690 : — " ' Anthologia
Grajca cum Annotationibus Brodsei et Obsopa'i.
Francof., 1600.' In the Episcopal Library at
Hartlebury, there is a copy of this book, which
once belonged to Pope, who seems to have studied
the book and had begun an Index." — S. P.
E. C.
Cork.
* The letters V. E. I. C. meant United East India
Company.
278
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5th S. I. APRIL 4, 74.
" THE SEA-BLUE BIRD OF MARCH " (4th S. xii.
177, 236 ; 5th S. i. 157.)— Surely this bird must
be the kingfisher, whose flight exactly corresponds
with that described, and whose lovely blue is
(nifallor) much more sea-like than that of the
wheatear. The kingfisher is, I believe, a migratory
bird in the North of England, though it is not so
in Somerset and Devon.
MR. CORDEAUX'S suggestion that " dreary
gleams" refers to the flight of the curlews, is new
to me, and is interesting. I had always supposed
that these words pointed only to the wild and
chilly effects of sweeping cloud and cold white
light, which are conspicuous in the flats of Eastern
England. Cobbett, after riding across these flats,
says well, that the heights of Lincoln came upon
him like land on the horizon to a ship at sea.
A. J. MUNBT.
Temple.
SIR THOMAS HERBERT OF TINTERNE (5th S. i.
88, 136.) — In the first volume of the Yorkshire
Archaeological Society's Journal there is a very
interesting account of " Sir Thomas Herbert of
Tinterne, in the County of Monmouth, and of the
City of York, Baronet." The paper, illustrated
by plates, is by Mr. Robert Davies, F.S.A., &c.,
of York. G. W. TOMLINSOX.
Huddersfield.
I had a book of his history, which I presented
to my friend Sir Herbert Maddock, President of
the Council of India, one of the descendants of
the baronet in question. GEORGE ELLIS.
" THE CATTLE AND THE WEATHER " (4th S. xii.
516 ; 5th S. i. 54, 138.)— A story is told of Moore,
the celebrated compiler of almanacs. He was,
on one occasion, riding through a pastoral country,
and was told by a boy not to go far away from the
inn, as a storm of rain was at hand. The as-
trologer, or whatever you may choose to call him,
did not heed the warning, but rode on. He had
not, however, gone far when the rain came down
with a vengeance. The almanac-maker immediately
rode back, and, having found the boy, asked him
how he knew the state of the weather so accurately.
The boy at first declined to tell, but being softened
by the touch of half-a-crown, he replied : " Weel
giv ever ye see that white stirk o' ours turn her
tail to the wind you 're sure to hae rain in half an
hour." J. H.
Stirling.
[This story has a home and a hero all over the world.]
" BLOODY " (4th S. xii. 324, 395, 438 ; 5th S. i.
37, 78.) — When recently acting in England and
Scotland as the attorney of the Government of
Paraguay, there was sent me from that country a
decree of the Provisional Government, dated 17th
August, 1869, in which this word is used in a
peculiar way. The preamble of the decree ran
thus : " Considering that the presence of Francisco
S. Lopez on Paraguayan soil is a bloody sarcasm
to the civilisation and patriotism of the Para-
guayans," &c. RICHARD LEES.
[So, in French, "La sanglante raillerie blesse et ne
corrige pas,1' Boiste cit., where " sanglante "=" outra-
geuse." A "sanglant affront" implies a more than
ordinarily offensive insult.]
"EMBOSSED": "To CASE" (4th S. xi. xii.
passim; 5th S. i. 172): —
" Terms for flaying, stripping, and casing all manner
of chaces."
" Of a hart and all manner of deer, they say, ' they
are slain.' "
' Of a hare, they say she is ' stripped ' or ' cased ' : the
same term is also used of a boar."
' A fox, badger, and all manner of vermin, are said to
be ' cased,' beginning at the snout, or nose of the beast,
his skin being turned over his ears down to the body, till
you come to the tail."
Sportsman's Dictionary, Lond., 1778, 4to.
G. M. T.
NOTES ON BOOKS, &c.
The Poetical Works of Sir William Alexander, Earl 0}
Stirling. Now first Collected and Edited. With
Memoir and Notes. 3 vols. Vols. II. and III.
(Glasgow, Ogle & Go.)
THE good work is here successfully brought to a close.
Sir William is less known than he deserves to be by the
general reader. King James I. honoured Prince
Henry's Gentleman of the Chamber, as a poet before the
gentleman. Contemporary with Shakspeare, Alexander
wrote four tragedies, — Darius, Crasus, The Alexandrian,
and Julius Ccesar, — which were subsequently published
together as The Monarchic Tragedies. Three of these
are in the second volume. The third volume contains
" Doomes-Day; or, the Great Day of the Lord's Judg-
ment" in " Twelve Hours," which occupy the whole of
the volume. Some of the Earl's best poetry, with
occasional quaint bathos, is to be found in " Doomes-
Day." Take, for example, the following : —
" The sight-confining, crystal-covered skies,
That mirroure cleare through which in every part
The heaven (as jealous) lookes with many eyes,
To mark men's actions, and to weigh each heart,
That spheare of light whose stately course none tries
To imitate, or emulate, by art,
That which to us so gorgeous is in show,
The building's bottome, is the part most low."
This poet's contemporary, one Shakspeare, treats the
same subject thus : —
" Look, how the floor of Heaven
Is thick inlaid with patines of bright gold.
There 's not the smallest orb that thou behold'st
But in his motion like an angel sings,
Still quiring to the young eyed cherubim.
Such harmony is in immortal souls,
But whilst this muddy vesture of decay
Doth grossly close it in, we cannot hear it."
Longevity : the Means of Prolonging Life after Middle
Age. By John Gardner, M.D. (H. S. King & Co.)
WHEN we consider that this little volume, from the pen
of an eminent member of the medical profession, is the
first to treat of human longevity since Mr. Thorns pub-
lished his somewhat novel and, as they have been con-
sidered, too sceptical views on the subject of the average
S. I. APRIL 4, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
279
duration of human life, it is easy to imagine the interest
with which, if it has come under his notice, he must
have looked for Dr. Gardner's views upon that question.
That interest must have given place to satisfaction when
he learned what an able supporter of his own views he
had found in Dr. Gardner. The book has not, however,
for its object the vexed question of how old a man may
live to be, but the means by which a man may reasonably
hope to attain the extreme limit of human life. The
book is as much distinguished by strong common sense
as by professional knowledge ; and Dr. Gardner's sug-
gestions for attaining a healthy and, so far, a happy old
age are well deserving the attention of all who think "such
a blessing worth trying for.
JOHN TALBOT, EARL OF SHREWSBURY. — In proof that
the great Talbot was certainly buried at Whitchurch,
Shropshire, Mr. Earwaker has communicated a paper to
the A Ihenceum, in which he quotes from a note, in Ash-
mole's handwriting, to the effect that he had seen a MS. at
Whitchurch in which some extracts out of the "old Church
Registrar " were entered, and among them " this epitaph
is to be seen." The epitaph is word for word similar to the
one which Trussell states was on the tomb of Talbot alleged
to be at Rouen. The probability is in favour of Talbot
having been buried at Whitchurch. Mr. Earwaker adds
the following ex'ract from a letter which was recently
received by him : —
" ' When the bones were found, the skull was stuffed
with something which gave rise to much speculation.
The rector had been ruminating on it for some time,
when an idea struck him, which he refused even to tell
his wife till he had made another inspection, which he
at once did. He began to extract the contents through
the cut, — first a bit of thread, then a fragment of wood,
again a bit of a newspaper, &c. &c., until at last out
oame three young mice, and this was the skull of John
Talbot, the great Earl of Shrewsbury ! If Shakspeare,
when he wrote Henry the Sixth, could have anticipated
this ! '
" If Talbot's skull," says Mr. Earwaker, " may serve to
hold a mouse's nest, Alexander's dust may ftop a bung-
hole ! "
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LONDON, SATURDAY, APRIL 11, 1874.
CONTENTS. — N° 15.
NOTES:— Note upon the French Era, invented 1793, and
lasting until 1806, 281— An Iron Bridge and a " Diable
Boiteux" in the Dark Ages — Autograph of Burns: "To
Terraughty on his Birthday," 283— Shadows Before, 234— Bell-
man's Verses — Centenarian Newspapers— Poetic Parallels:
Beauty in Death— "The Town's Hall" — Here: There:
Where, 285— " Hennerey"— Stone Altar— A Kentish Feast
— "Paradise Lost" — De Defectibus Missae, 280. '
•QUERIES:— Hindoo (?) Game— Buda, or Bleda, the Founder
of the City Buda— Letch : Ing— Horse's Hoof a Cure for
Ague— Decourland— Wyat Family— Sir D. K. Sandford, 287
— Churchill=Widville— James, Third Earl of Marlborough—
• David's Teares " — The Jerusalem Conquistada of Lope de
Vega— Sherlock of Kilkenny, or Wexford— The Burial of Sir
John Moore— Cardinal Richelieu and the Baker's Son— Roger
Daniel, the Cambridge University Printer— Lord Macaulay
— "Fulvius Valens ; or, the Martyr of Ceserea " — Miss
Elizabeth Polack, 288 — " Sea vage " — Authors Wanted—
Thomas Davidson — The Book of Jasher — Swanswick,
Somerset— Average Duration of Human Life — " Switzer-
land " — Mother Oliver—" A Town Eclogue," &c., 289.
REPLIES:— A Stubborn Fact, 289— Mary Carleton, "the
German Princess," 291 — Browning's "Lost Leader" —
Glebuspensky, 292 — " The Night Crow " — Green Gage—
"Put to Buck" — Dr. Thomas Gordon, of Peterhead —
Bardolf of Wirmegay, 293— St. Godwald— Jenico — " The
only moon I see, Biddy," &c. — Clogstoun Family — Sir
Ralph Cobham— Shirley Family— Peter Mew, Bishop of Bath
and Wells, 294-St. Bernard of Clairvaux— Queen Anne
Square — Name of Book Wanted — The Morgue — Chevaliers of
the Golden Spur — "To put his monkey up" — Wine in
Smoke, 295—' ' Eyes which are not eyes " — Crowing Hens —
George I. at Lydd — Bere Regis Church, 296 — Moses of
Chorene— Mediaeval Wines— Swale Family, 297 — A Negro
Etonian— Rev. Stephen Clarke— Military Topography — The
Magpie— The Irish Peerage—" How they brought the Good
News from Ghent to Aix," 298.
Notes on Books, &e.
NOTE UPON THE FRENCH ERA, INVENTED
1793, AND LASTING UNTIL 1806.
" Sept. 20th, 1793. The Convention (National), after
hearing a Report of the Committee of Public Information
(Instruction1?) respecting a new division of the year,
decreed : —
" 1. The era of the French shall be reckoned from the
day of the foundation of the Republic, which took place
Sept. 22, 1792, at the moment when the sun entered the
«quinoxial line in the sign of the Balance.
" 2. The common or vulgar cera is abolished ; the year
is divided into 12 months, each of 30 days, after which 5
•days shall ensue, which shall make part of no month
whatever.
" 3. Each month shall be divided into 3 parts of 10
days each.
" 4. The months shall bear the names of ' the Liberty
and Equality of the people,' of ' the Regeneration of the
Mountain,' of ' the Republic,' of ' the Tennis Court ' of
'Unity,' 'Fraternity,' of -'the Pikes/ and the 'Sans
Culottes,' &c.
" 5. The days shall bear the names of ' the Level,' of
'the Cap of Liberty,' of ' the National Cockade/ of ' the
Plough,' of ' the Compass/ of ' the Fasces/ of 'Cannon/
of ' Oak/ of ' Rest/ &c.
"6. Every 4 years Olympic Games shall be celebrated
in honour and rejoicing of the French Revol".
" This Report, the result of the Observations of the
first French astronomers, was crowned with the loudest
bursts of applause."
European Mag., vol. xxtv., p. 317, 1793.
The same volume of the same magazine, how-
ever, subsequently gives the following as the
" New French Calendar
"For the present year, commencing 22 Sept.
New French Names
of the Months. AUTUMN. Days.
Vindemaire . Vintage month, from Sep. 22 to Oct.
(Vendemiaire). 21, inc 30
Brumaire . . Fog month, from Oct. 22 to Nov.
20, inc 30
Frimaire . . Sleet month, from Nov. 21 to Dec.
20, inc 30
WINTER.
Nivos . . . Snow month, from Dec. 21 to Jan.
(Nivose) 19, inc 30
Pluvios . . . Rain month, from Jan. 20 to Feb.
(Pluviose) 18, inc 30
Ventos . . . Wind month, from Feb. 19 to Mar.
(Ventose) 20, inc. . . . .30
SPRING.
Germinal . . Sprouts month, from Mar. 21 to
Apl. 19, inc 30
Floreal . . . Flowers, month, from Apl. 20 to
May 19, inc 30
Priareal . . . Pasture morith» from May 20 to
(Prarial, or June 18, inc 30
Prair6al) .
SUMMER.
Messidor . . Harvest month, from June 19 to
July 18, inc 30
Fervidor . . Hot month, from July 19 to Aug.
(Thermidor). 17, inc 33
Fructidor . . Fruit month, from Aug. 18 to Sep.
16, inc 30
SANS-CULOTTIDES, as Feasts dedicated to
Les Vertus . The Virtues . Sep. 17 1
La Genie . Genius . . „ 18 1
La Travail . Labour . . „ 19 1
L'Opinion '»• ' Opinion* . „ 20 1
Les Recompenses Rewards . „ 21 1
365
The intercalary day of every fourth year is to be
called " La Sans-Culotte " (Thiers says " Fete de
la Revolution "), on which there is to be a national
renovation of their oath, " To live free or die."
The month is divided into three decades, the
days of which are called from the Latin numerals:
"1. Primidi. 4. Quartidi. 7. Septidi.
2. Duodi. 5. Quintidi. 8. Octodi.
3. Tridi. 6. Sextidi. 9. Nonodi.
10. Decadi, which is to be the day of rest."
European May., vol. as above.
In confirmation of this Calendar, given so fully
in the European Magazine, I append an extract of
dates from the " Table Chronologique du Moniteur.
An II. de la Kepublique ". (1793J.
My note, commences thus, " The substitution of
'' "This," says Thiers, "was a kind of political car-
nival, lasting for twenty-four hours, during which it was
permitted to write or speak with impunity concerning all
public men." Thiers calls this fete " altogether original."
and " perfectly adapted to the French character." Ho
places Recompenses four, and Opinion five.
282
NOTES AND QUERIES.
Ami 11, 74
Ventose, Fructidor, &c., for the usual names of
months, appears to have commenced this year ;
at least I find the first notice thereof in the Stance
dated 'du 8 brumaire' (29 Oct., 1793)." My list
of dates goes on thus: —
lcr frimaire (21 novbr).
ler nivose (21 decbr).
1" pluviose (20 janyier), 1794.
Ier ventuse (19 fevrier), „
ler germinal (21 mars),
1" florcal (20 avril),
ler prarial (20 mai),
lcr messidor (19 juin),
lcr thermidor (19 juillet),
lor fructidor (18 aoiit),
1" vendemiaire (22 Sep''re)
lcr brumaire (22 Oct')re),
I also find —
lcr Sansculottide (17 Sepvr).
and 5«me ditto (21 „ ), 1794.
These grotesque innovations remained in force
until Jan. 1, 1806.
A medal, of which I possess a copy, was struck
to do honour to the inauguration of this new style
of reckoning. My example is of bronze, size 13 of
Mionnet ; its obverse being the well-known figure
byDuvivier, of France, helmed, seated in a classi-
cally shaped chair, and armed with the fasces, &c.;
legend, "Bepubliqueuneet indivisible"; in exergue,
" Nation Frangaise." Eeverse : In the upper seg-
ment of the circular field three signs of the Zodiac,
Libra, Scorpio, and Sagittarius, the Sun being shown
as entered into the Balance (see paragraph 1 of this
note). Beneath the signs are these words : " Ere
Franchise commencee a 1'equinoxe d'Automn " (sic)
11 22 Sept., 1792, 9 heures, 18 min: 30 ss. du Matin
a Paris."
At the time when this new era was promulgated,
a general belief prevailed in England (and doubt-
less in other European countries, that the novelty
was introduced with a view to the suppression of
Christianity and the exaltation of Eationalism.
Thiers does not commit himself to any expression
of opinion upon this religious point ; when speak-
ing of the change from the Gregorian Calendar, he
remarks that " the Catholic religion had multiplied
fetes most enormously; the Eevolution believed it
necessary to reduce them as much as possible";
and, in defence of the reconstruction of weights and
measures, and of the Calendar, he states that " a
taste for regularity and a contempt for all obstacles
necessarily signalized a revolution which was at
once philosophical and political." Dr. Smith, in
his Student's France, seems to connect the new era
(which abolished all Sundays) with the attacks of
the Hebertists upon the Christian religion, with
its proscription and prohibition, and with the in-
stallation of the Goddess of Eeason, the desecration
of churches, and the assertion that " Death is but
eternal sleep"; and, as indicative of English con-
temporary opinion on the character of the innova-
tion, I cite the following «from A Residence in
France during 1792, 3, 4, and 5-: a Series of
Letters from an English Lady (Miss Williams ?)
London, 1797. At p. 12, vol. ii., under date of
Jan. 6, 1794, she remarks: —
" Besides the more mischievous changes of a philo-
sophic revolution, you will have learned from the news-
papers that the French have adopted a new sera and a
new Calendar, the one dating from the foundation of
their republic, the other descriptive of the climate of
Paris, and the productions of the French territory. The
vanity of these philosophers would doubtless be gratified
by forcing the rest of Europe and the civilized world to
adopt their useless and chimerical innovations, and tb£y
might think it a triumph to see the inhabitant of the
Hebrides date ' Vendemiaire ' (vintage-month), or the
parched West-Indian ' Nivose' (snow-month), but vanity
is not on this, as it is on many other occasions, the lead-
ing principle. It was hoped that a new arrangement of
the year, and a different nomenclature of the months, so
as to banish all the commemorations of Christianity,
might prepare the way for abolishing religion itself, and
if it were possible to impose the use of the new, so far as
to exclude the old Calendar, this might certainly assist
their more serious atheistical operations."
Ee-action, however, before long set in, the
Goddess of Eeason was dethroned, and on the 1 8th
Floreal (7th May, 1794), Eobespierre presented
to the National Convention the following decree,
which was adopted by acclamation : —
' Art. 1. The French people recognize the existence
of a Supreme Being and the immortality of the soul.
" Art. 2. They acknowledge that the most proper wor-
ship of the Supreme is the practice of the rights of man."
Other articles ruled that festivals should be in-
stituted to recall man to the thought of the
Divinity and the dignity of his being. These
festivals were to derive their names from the events
of the Eevolution, or from those virtues which were
most useful to man. Besides the fetes of July 14,*
Aug. 10,f Jan. 21,t and May 31,§ the Eepublic
was to celebrate every decade day the following
festivals : —
" Of the Supreme Being — of human nature — of the
French people— the benefactors of humanity— the mar-
tyrs of liberty — liberty and equality— the republic— the
liberty of the world— the love of country— hatred to
tyrants and traitors— truth— justice— chastity— glory-
friendship — frugality— courage — good faith — disinte'-est-
edness— stoicism— love— conjugal fidelity— paternal love
—maternal tenderness— filial piety— infancy — youth —
maturity — old age— misfortune — agriculture — industry —
our ancestors— posterity —happiness."
i.e., one name given to each fete, for each of the
thirty decadi, and five for the sansculottides.
thirty-five in all, and thus extending over the year.
I very much desire to procure the names of the
months omitted in paragraph 4 of this note, and to
complete the list of the appellations of days, they
being fragmentary, as given in paragraph 5 (both
* Capture of Bastille, 1789.
f Attack on Tuileries, 1792.
J Murder of Louis Seize, 1793.
§ Suppression of Committee of 12 (Girondists), 1793,
5-h S. I. APRIL 11, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
283
referring to the first set of names, designated by
decree of Sep. 20, 1793), and would feel grateful
to be supplied with the information I need, or with
authorities whence I could gather it in.
CRESCENT.
Wimbledon.
AN IRON BRIDGE AND A "DIABLE BOITEUX"
IN THE DARK AGES.
The following strange stories may be new to
many readers of " N. & Q." They are to be found
in " Paolo Diacono della Chiesa d'Aquilea delta
Origine e Fatti dei Be Longobardi, tradotto per
M. Lodovico Domenichi. Vinegia, 1548." Speak-
ing of Gunthran, King of the French, Paolo Dia-
cono says: —
"This King was very peaceable, and a man of the
greatest goodness, of •whom I will briefly relate, in this
history, a fact sufficiently marvellous, especially as I
know that it is not to be found in French History. Gun-
thran having one day gone to hunt in the woods (as he
was in the habit of doing), his companions being scattered
about, remained with only one of the most faithful, and
as he was very much overcome by sleep, laid his head
upon the knees of his attendant, and was soon asleep.
Out of the mouth of whom (Gunthran) issued a little
animal in the form of a worm, which showed signs of
wishing to pass a small stream that ran close by. Then
he upon whose knees the King was reposing drew his
sword out of the scabbard, and laid it across the stream,
over which the little animal passed to the other side.
Having entered a certain hole in a hill, not far off, it
returned to pass over the stream on the same sword, and
went into Gunthran 's mouth. Gunthran having awoke
a short time afterwards, said that he seemed, while asleep,
to pass over a certain river, on an iron bridge, and having
gone into a certain mountain, there he had seen a large
quantity of gold. He upon whose knees Gunthran had
slept therefore told him exactly everything that had
happened. What more 1 That spot was dug into, and
there were found inestimable treasures, which had been
placed there in ancient times. Of which gold the king
caused afterwards a tabernacle to be made, of wonderful
size and great weight ; and having adorned it with many
precious jewels, wished to send it to the Sepulchre of
Christ in Jerusalem. But not being able to do that, he
had it placed over the body of the martyr Saint Marcellus,
who is buried in the City of Cabilone, which was the seat
of his kingdom, and where it is to be seen to this day :
nor is there anywhere any other work in gold which can
be compared to it."
The other story is : —
*' King Chuniberto was consulting, in Pavia, with his
esquire, who in the language of the Longabardi was
named Marpahis, how he could put to death Aldone and
Grausone, when suddenly a hawk settled on the window-
sill near which they were talking. Chuniberto, in try-
ing to kill it with a knife, only cut off one of its feet. At
the time Aldone and Grausone were coming towards the
palace, and when near the Church of San Romano, not
knowing anything of the King's resolution, met suddenly
a certain lame man, one of whose feet had been cut off,
who told them that if they went further the King would
kill them. They hearing this, being suddenly seized
with great fear, fled into the Church of San Romano the
Martyr. Then Chuniberto began to abuse violently his
esquire, because he had had the audacity to reveal his
intention. To whom the esquire replied, My Lord King,
you know well that, since we had arranged it, I have not
left your presence. By what means could I have in-
formed them of anything ] Then the King sent to Aldone
and Grausone asking them why they had fled into the
church! To which they replied, Because we were
apprised that the Lord King wished to kill us. The King
sent again to ask them who was he who had told them,
making them to understand moreover that, if they did not
discover to him who had informed them of it, they would
never again recover his favour. They then sent to the
King, saying exactly how it had happened. That they
had met a lame man, one of whose feet had been cut off
— in lieu of which he used a, wooden leg — and that he had
warned them of the death prepared for them. The King
knew then that that hawk, of which he had cut off the
foot, was a malicious devil, and that he had discovered the
secret of his soul. The King having therefore imme-
diately caused Aldone and Grausone to leave the church
upon his honour, pardoned them the fault, and in future
always looked upon them as faithful."
RALPH N. JAMES.
Ashford, Kent.
AUTOGRAPH OF BURNS: "TO TERRAUGHTY
ON HIS BIRTH-DAY."
Through the kindness of Mr. John Taylor
Johnston, President of the Central Railroad Com-
pany of New Jersey, and who resides in New
York, I have obtained a photograph of the holo-
graph of this poem by Burns. In a note Mr.
Johnston says: "It was a present from my valued
friend, Mr. Thomas Maxwell, of Dalbeattie, and
one of the few manuscripts of Burns that has found,
its way to New York. It is written on very
common paper." It is curious to compare this
holograph of Burns with the version that is found
in the edition of Dr. Chambers. The variations
amount to forty-eight, chiefly in spelling and
capitals; but there is one word entirely changed by
the simple omission of a letter, and there is another
where, if the poet was not misspelt, quite a different
meaning is brought out by what appears in the
original. The variations are so numerous, that
perhaps you will allow an exact copy to appear,
with the same defects in pointing as in the poet's
original : —
" To Terraughty on his Birth-day
Health to the Maxwels Vet'ran Chief
Health ay unscour'd by Care or grief
Inspir'd 1 turn Fate's Sybil leaf
This natal Morn
I see thy life is stuff o' prief
Scarse quite half worn.
This day thou meets Threescore eleven
And I can tell that bounteous Heaven
(The second sight ye ken is given
To ilka Poet)
On thee a tack o' seven-times-seven
Will yet Bestow it
If envious Buckies view wi' sorrow
Thy lengthen'd days on this blest morrow
May Desolation's lang-teeth'd Harrow
Nine miles an hour
Roke them like Sodom and Gomorroh
In Brunstane Stour
284
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5th S. I. APRIL 11, 74.
But for thy Frien's and they are mony
Baith Honest men and lasses bonie
May Couthie fortune, kind and cannie
An' Social Glee
Wi' mornings blythe and e'enings funny
Bless them and thee
Farewell auld Birkie Lord be near ye
And then the Deel he darena steer ye
Your frien's ay love your faes ay fear ye
For me Shame fa' me
If niest my heart I dinna wear ye
While Burns they ca' me." •
The word, to which I have referred above, where
a letter is dropped is unsound, whereas in the
original it is unsecured, i. e., not rubbed down or
worn out by care or grief. This is less hackneyed
than unsoured, which is the reading in all the ver-
sions to which I have access. Then " thou meets"
may possibly be a misspelling for " thou metes,"
i. e., measurest, which is the usual reading ; but
in the other case, thou meets, i. e., facest threescore
eleven, coming up face to face to that special point.
The same idea that occurs in the last words of
this friendly address to Terraughty it is curious to
find in nearly the same terms in the speech put by
Xenophon (Anal), i. iv. 16) into the mouth of
Cyrus the Younger (B.C. 401) when he is praising
the troops of Menon: — OTTCO? Se /ecu -I'/
eTraiveirrjTe, efiou /ULeXrjcrei' 7] yW/^Kert /JLC
vojut^ere. " It shall be my care that you hymn
my praises, or else no longer call me Cyrus." This
is only an example how ready Nature is to call up
the same mode of expression, whenever anything
of a similar nature is required to be expressed.
C. T. EAMAGE.
SHADOWS BEFORE.
1. " CREATION BY VARIATION." —
"And many creatures on the earth since grown
Before the flood that were to Noah unknown,
In sundry climates, sundry beasts we find
That what they were, are nothing now the same
From one self-strain, though at the first they came
But by the soil they often alter'd be
In shape and colour as we daily see."
Drayton's Noah's Flood, 1630 (1).
2. THE "SICK MAN."—
" And further I say, the Persian vizier loquitur, if the
Turkes government bee corrupted, give it more time and
the sicknesse will encrease. Is hee incapable1? his yeares
are too many to make him amend ; therefore by giving
yourselfe time, you loose nothing he will be incapable
still .... let him consume with his own malady."
Sherley's Relation of his Travailes into Persia, 1613.
3. MEDICAL SPA-PRACTICE. —
" Find out some strange water, some unheard of spring.
Report strange cures that it hath done. Beget a super-
stitious opinion in it. Good fellowship shall uphold it,
and the neighbouring townes shall all sweare for it."
The Art of Thriving, 1635,
4. HOUSEHOLD SUFFRAGE. —
" That the electors in every division shall be natives or
denizens of England, not persons receiving alms, but such
as are assessed ordinarily towards the relief of the poor,"
&c. — Foundations for Freedom, 1648.
5. PUBLIC SCHOOLS LATIN GRAMMAR. —
" Since these licentious times have overthrown all order,
and broken us into so many sects and factions ; the-
Schools have been infected with that Fanatick itch, and
like Independent congregations have ben variously ad-
ministered by new Lights according to the fancy of the
several teachers, that I dare say there are as many Gram-
mars taught as there are Grammarians to teach. Jt
would be well if these loos brooms were gather'd again
if not into the old yet into some one Model What
if the Convocation would please to order some of their
number, taking to their assistance some of the most able
masters, well experienced in teaching, either to correct
what is amiss in the old Institution, or to draw up a new
body of Rules and system of that art with the advantage
of later inventions." — Discourse concerning Schools and
Schoolmasters, Lond., 1663.
6. FLOGGING IN SCHOOLS. —
" An evil (let me say on) which is not malum tristeonly
(for then it should be borne yet forme) but malum turpe.
The corruption of discipline. The bane of all good edu-
cation. The infection of the School Master : the dis-
honour of their function. The infandum of the Teacher :
the horrendum of the taught. The stupid man's idol : a
Tophet to those that have their eyes open." — Lex Forcia,
a Sensible Address to the Parliament for an Act to Remedy
the Foul Abuse of Children at Schools, Lond., 1698.
It would be interesting to know something about
the author of this lively production. The " inge-
nious Dr. Wilkins " was so convinced of the injury
done to education, and especially to the masters.,
by the practice of flogging, that the writer of thi&
pamphlet heard him propose the device of "an
engine " to thrash refractory boys ! an idea which
is certainly worth the attention of American in-
ventors.
7. PRIVATE EXECUTIONS. —
" If no remedy can be found for these evils [the dis-
orders of the Tyburn procession] it would be better that
Malefactors should be put to death in private; for our
publick executions are become decoys, that draw in the
necessitous, and in effect as cruel as frequent pardons,
instead of giving warning they are examplary the wrong
way, and encourage where they should deter." — Mande-
ville's Enquiry into the Causes of the Frequent Executions.
Lond., 1725.
8. IRELAND AND AMERICA. —
(Writing of the Elizabethan conquest of Ireland.)
" Where now by this, thy large imperial crown
Stands boundless in the west, and hath a way
For noble times, left to make all thine own
That lies beyond it, and force all t' obey."
Daniel's Funeral Poem upon the Death of the
Earl of Devonshire.
9. THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE IN AMERICA. —
" And who (in time) knows whither we may vent
The treasure of our tongue ! To what strange shores
This gain of our best glory shall be sent,
T' enrich unknowing nations with our stores
What worlds in th' yet unformed Occident,
May come refin'd with th' accents that are ours."
Daniel's Musophilus, 159$.
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10. ABOLITION OF IMPRISONMENT FOR DEBT. —
" That according to the law of God, according to Chris-
tian clemency, gentleness, and mercy [&c.~|, and according
to the antient laws and customs of this State, no person
hereafter may for any new debt be cast into prison, but
rather that his estate may be seized, and the person left
at liberty to work himself out of debt by his industry,
trade, or profession." — England's Wants; or, Several
Proposals, probably beneficial for England. Lond., 1685.
11. FRENCH REVOLUTIONS. — •
About this time (1617) France, raging with pas-
sion, played her bloody pranks. •
" There is in that kingdom a mad genius domineering,
•which like climacteral diseases takes rest, and after some
intermission, breaks out again," &c.
A. Wilson's History of Great Britain. Lond., 1653.
12. REFORM IN SOLDIERS' CLOTHING. —
" The body of a man is an Engine. Its force should be
managed to produce its full effect where it is most wanted;
and ought not, therefore, to be dissipated in useless orna-
ments. There is a weight on our soldiers neither offen-
sive nor defensive, but serving only for parade. This I
would have removed : and the loss will not be much if
the man's vigour grows as his pomp lessens."
Berkeley's Life and Letters, vol. iv. [1746].
I have no doubt that several of these anticipa-
tions have been pointed out before.
C. ELLIOT BROWNE.
BELLMAN'S VERSES. — I read in the Universal
Magazine for. March, 1810 :—
" In the year 1740 a critical examination, in verse, of
the architectural merits of the church of St. Leonard,
Shoreditch, was found pasted on the church door, and
was afterwards acknowledged by Mr. Guthridge, who
was beadle and bellman, and the writer of his own bell-
man's verses. Copies of these verses are now very rare."
A corner in " N. & Q." (if it has not been
already bestowed) might be spared for the purpose
of rescuing the offspring of Mr. Guthridge's muse
" from Death and Dark Oblivion." I transcribe
his critical remarks on the clock and pediment of
St. Leonard's : —
" To look askew upon the church by some is deem'd a
crime ;
But all must do it at Shoreditch church, all who would
know the time ;
The figures on the dial- plate, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8,
Being hid behind the pediment, if you look at it
straight.
The brains, sure, of the architect must in confusion
been,
When he five figures of the twelve prevented being
seen."
There is a very beautiful treating of Priscian's
head in the penultimate line. Is the clock of St.
Leonards, Shoreditch, still partially hidden by the
pediment ? G. A. SALA.
Brompton.
CENTENARIAN NEWSPAPERS. — The, Printer's
Register gives the following list of existing news-
papers that have overpassed the centenary line,
with the date of their beginning : —
1665 London Gazette.
1690 Barrow's Worcester
Journal.
1690 Edinburgh Gazette.
1695 Stamford Mercury.
1705 Edinburgh Courant.
1710 Nottingham Journal.
1711 Dublin Gazette.
1711 Newcastle Chronicle.
1713 Hereford Journal.
1717 Kentish Mercury.
1718 Leeds Mercury.
1720 Norwich Mercury.
1720 Northampton Mer-
cury.
1720 Salisbury Journal.
1722 Gloucester Journal.
1723 Bristol Times.
1723 Reading Mercury.
1725 Dublin Evening Post.
1725 Ipswich Journal.
1726 Lloyd's List.
1730 Chester Courant.
1732 Derby Mercury.
1737 Belfast News Letter.
1741 Birmingham Gazette.
1741 Coventry Standard.
1742 Bath Journal.
1744 Cambridge Chronicle.
1746 Saunders's News Let-
ter.
1753 Leicester Journal.
1753 Oxford Journal.
1754 Yorkshire Post.
1756 Warrington Adver-
tiser.
1757 Bath Chronicle.
1759 Public Ledger.
1761 Norfolk Chronicle.
1763 Dublin Freeman's
Journal.
1763 Exeter Flying Post.
1764 Chelmsford Chronicle.
1764 Newcastle Weekly
Chronicle.
1761 Sherborne Journal.
1765 Liverpool General
Advertiser.
1766 Limerick Chronicle.
1766 Waterford Chronicle.
1768 Kentish Chronicle.
1772 Exeter and Plymouth
Gazette.
1772 Hampshire Chronicle.
1772 Londonderry Journal.
1772 Morning P o st.
(London).
1772 Shrewsbury Chroni-
cle.
1773 Chester Chronicle.
1774 Cumberland Pacquet.
1774 Kerry Evening Post.
It is somewhat noteworthy that of these fifty-two
centenarians, twelve rejoice in the pseudonym of
Chronicle ; the same number belong to the genus
Journal, though not all dailies ; six belong to the
Gazette order ; and the same number to that of
Mercury. W. D. PINK.
Leigh, Lancashire.
POETIC PARALLELS: BEAUTY IN DEATH. —
• " Beauty's ensign yet
Is crimson in thy lips, and in thy cheeks,
And death's pale flag is not advanced there."
Shakspeare, Itomeo and Juliet, Act v. sc. iii.
" For on his lips a smile he spies,
And still his cheek uri faded shows
The deepest damask of the rose."
Cowper, Tears of a Painter.
" Ere yet decay's effacing fingers
Have swept the lines where beauty lingers,
The fix'd yet tender traits that streak
The languor of the placid cheek.
Hers is the loveliness in death,
That parts not quite with parting breath."
Byron, The Giaour.
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" THE TOWN'S HALL." — Passing in front of the
Newton statue before Grantham Town Hall the-
other evening, I heard an apparent stranger ask
some apparent natives, " Is that the Town's Hall 1 "
They replied in the affirmative; and I now ask,
can the stranger's " come from " be predicated by
his " Town's" genitive ? J. BEALE.
HERE : THERE : WHERE. — Many provincialisms
are only old English forms locally preserved. Thus
I have heard a County Cork man pronounce " here "
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[5th S. I. APRIL 11, 74.
exactly as in *' there " or " where." There can be
no doubt that they were all anciently sounded
alike. S. T. P.
" HENNEREY." — An American journal, in a para-
graph transferred to the Swiss Times, makes fun
of this name as applied to a house where domestic
poultry roost, and treats the appellation as a
modern invention. Without arguing as to pro-
priety, I beg to say that the word is not new ; it
has long been used in the north, and I have had
a henncrey. It is as good, perhaps better, than a
compound Avord such as "fowl-house" or "hen-
house." N.
STONE ALTAR. — The original high-altar slab
belonging to the church of St. Stephen the Proto-
Martyr, Norwich, may now be seen, in front of
the south porch, forming part of the pavement.
The consecration crosses at the corners and centre
are clearly to be discerned. It was doubtless
transferred to this ignominious position at the
time of the Reformation. Blomefield does not
mention the above interesting fact in his minute
account of the church in question.
V.H.I.L.I.C.I.V.
A KENTISH FEAST. — The "Yorkshire Feast,"
recorded at p. 84, must pale before this. It
was given by Lord Romney in the Moat Park,
at Maidstone, on the occasion of a visit from
George III., the Queen, the Duke of York, and
many other members of the Royal family, August
1st, 1799. It was celebrated in the open grounds,
after a grand review had taken place of cavalry
and infantry volunteers commanded by the Earl
Camden and Lord Romney. About 6,500 persons
sat down to dinner : —
"200 dishes of roast beef; 220 dishes of boiled beef;
220 dishes of roasted veal ; 240 quarters of lamb ; 220
meat pies ; 2,100 fowls ; 300 hams ; 300 tongues ; 220
fruit pies. 7 pipes of port ; 16 butts of ale; 16 butts of
small beer."
All the volunteers and gentlemen present after-
wards drank their Majesties' health standing.
MEDWEIG.
" PARADISE LOST." — Extract of a letter written
by a lady resident in Italy in 1830 :—
" Whilst I was at La Cava, Dr. Xott interested us by
reading some translations he had made from a beautiful
Italian poem entitled Angeleida, which treats of the fall
of Satan, &c. It was published, I think he said, about
sixty years before the Paradise Lost, in which there are
some passages so very similar that the resemblance could
scarcely be accidental. I suppose this would excite in-
terest for the poem in England, and there is no danger
of its doing any discredit to Milton, as some pretend.
Dr, N. has also made some pretty translations from
Italian poetry. I did not think much of his original
pieces, with a few of which he favoured us. You know,
I suppose, something of the Doctor by name, as he was
tutor to the Princess Charlotte."
The work referred to, Angeleida del Sig. Erasmo
di Vilvasone, Venet., 1500, had previously at-
tracted the attention of Warton and Hayley. The
latter cited the lines in which the Italian poet
assigns to the infernal powers the invention of
artillery. Has Dr. Nott's translation eyer been
published 1 C.
DE DEFECTIBUS MISS.E. — The learned Gavanti
(Thes. Sac. Bit., torn. i. p. 211, Antv., 16534),
commenting on the rubrics of the Roman Missal
which treat on this subject, says — " Collegit hos
defectus in Missa ex sacris Theologis, & in Mis-
saleni librum transtulit nescio quis, anno 1557,
Venetiis impressum." But that very similar direc-
tions had been collected and printed with Missals
at least half a century earlier, is certain. I possess
a fine folio Missal, printed by Erhard Ratdolt at
Augsburg in 1510, in which the same rubrics
occur, though somewhat differently worded. The
paragraphs to which my attention has been espe-
cially directed are those which treat on the con-
tingency of a fly or spider, or poison, coming in con-
tact with the elements before or after consecration.
Gavanti refers to St. Thomas Aquinas (Summa, 3th'
pars, Qusest. LXXXIIL, Art. vi. sec. 3) for the
original authority. In my Missal of 1510 the
very words of St. Thomas are adopted with scarcely
any alteration, but in the later form of the rubrics,
namely, that which forms the text on which
Gavanti comments, and which we find in Missals
of 1634 and later up to the present time, the words
are different, though their meaning is much the
same. It was in 1634, and in virtue of the Bull
Si quid est of Urban VIII. that the Missal was
issued as at present used.
In Martene (De Ant. Ecd. Eit., lib. I. cap. v.,
art. v. cap. xxviii., and De Ant. Mon. Kit. lib. II.
cap. vii.) will be found a great many local con-
stitutions to the same effect, with regard to spiders,
&c., and so very much alike that they seem to
have had some common origin. The earliest
appears to be a constitution of Odo, Abp. of Paris,
about half a century before St. Thomas Aquinas.
I am not aware that directions of this kind were
ever formularized in the Missals of the English,
Church, but 'that they were acted on is witnessed
by the piscinas that yet remain in our churches,
and in Myrc's Instructions for Parish Priests
(dr. 1470), edited by Mr. Peacock for the
E. E. T. S., we read what is to be done
" Gef any fly, gnat, or coppe
Doun in to the chalys droppe."
This seems to express the unwritten or tradi-
tional law of the English Church, for none of the
Constitutions, &c., in Lyndewode provide for the
case, and none of those in Martene are English.
I should be glad to know what is the earliest
known mention of the contingency, whether any
English canonists, or others beside Myrc, have
referred to it, when the rubrics De Defeciibus were
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first written or printed in Missals, and whether
they are found in any of the later English ones.
J. T. F.
Hatfield Hall, Durham.
[We must request correspondents desiring information
on family matters of only private interest, to affix their
names and addresses to their queries, in order that the
answers may be addressed to them direct.]
HINDOO (?) GAME. — Can any of your Indian
correspondents tell me the name and meaning of a
game which I happened to meet with lately, and
whether it is complete 1 What I have consists of
116 circular pieces of card or thin wood, painted
red at the back, and bearing different signs on the
upper side. Each sign goes from one to ten, the
signs being: — 1. The tortoise. 2. The rat. 3. A
white horse with red caparison. 4. A female head,
probably a deity. 5. An axe. 6. A dog. 7. An
ape. 8. An umbrella. 9. A fish. 10. A white
cow, or other animal, with red horns. Each of
these are painted on a different coloured ground,
and each (except Nos. 3 and 4) have two of what
might be called court cards. Some of these court
cards have the sign on them of the set they belong
to, as the tortoise and the umbrella, but others are
to be matched only by the colour of the back-
ground. It is probable that my set is incomplete,
and that each should consist of twelve pieces.
That it is a Hindoo game is merely conjectured
from the figures on the court cards appearing to
belong to the Hindoo mythology, and similar
figures are painted round the box in which the
cards or counters are contained ; but it was sold to
me as a Persian game. I should think this par-
ticular set is at least fifty years old, perhaps double
that age, but, being well preserved, it is difficult to
judge exactly. It is probable that the game is still
well known and popular. F. S. E.
BUDA, OR BLEDA, THE FOUNDER OF THE CITY
BUDA, CALLED ALSO OFFEN, ON THE DANUBE, IN
HUNGARY. — According to the Dictionnaire Histo-
rique, Paris, 1810, Buda, or Budaeus, was the same
as Bleda, the son of Mundzicus, King of Hungary,
who was assassinated by Attila, his brother, A.D.
434 ; but according to Morery, Budfeus, the
founder of Buda, and Bleda, were different persons.
When is mention first made of this ancient capital
in history ; and what is considered by Continental
scholars to be the most trustworthy account of its
foundation ? E.
LETCH : ING. — How are these words derived ?•
Cocker-letch and the Queen's-letch are two farm
onsteads in Hexhamshire, the latter not far from
the Queen's Cave, where a loyal robber is said to
have sheltered Queen Margaret and her son after
the battle of Hexham. 'Letch is the name of a
place near Newcastle, but the word was formerly
much more common, for it occurs twenty times in
the rent-roll of Hexham Priory. It is not in
Wedgwood. Halliday and Brochett give "letch,
a wet ditch." In the same rent-roll the word
"ing" is used as the name of a portion of land ;
thus, " 2 acres of meadow in Alan's-acre-Ing,"
" one close of one acre in the Low Ings," &c. It
is also met with in many names of places, as
Ingoe, Ingram, Hastings, the north Eiding, &c.
THOMAS DOBSON, B.A.
Hexham.
HORSE'S HOOF A CURE FOR AGUE. — In West
Kent, a man was seized, not long since, with an
acute attack of ague, or intermittent fever, a com-
plaint very common in that county, and the effects
of which are often felt through life. This man
doctored himself, was quickly cured, and has had
no return as yet of the fever. His mother soon
after became an intense sufferer from the same
malady. " What was your son's remedy," I asked,
" and why do you not use it ?" — " It was the inside
of a horse's hoof, dissolved," she replied ; " but I
dare not use it myself, in my weak condition 5 it is
' kill or cure.' It produces a violent sickness, and
leaves one prostrate ; then, if one recovers the
sickness, a permanent cure is effected." Will some
one speak further on this subject 1 In East Kent
the general remedies for ague are high living,
plenty of porter, and constant doses of quinine.
An Essex vicar tells me that a brother clergyman
of his obtained some fame for curing ague-patients
with pills decocted from some discovery he had
made. After some years he published the chief
ingredient of his wonderful pills — the snuff of a
candle ! BARROVIUS.
Westminster.
DECOURLAND. — Of what nationality is this
une? A. H.
WYAT FAMILY, formerly of Boxley Abbey and
Allington Castle, both in the county of Kent, and
previously of South Haig, in the county of York.
I am desirous of collecting genealogical notes of
this family ; will any of your readers give me in-
formation not to be found in the Harleian MSS. or
at the College of Arms, or simply of an historical
character ? Any particulars of residence, appoint-
ments, places of birth, baptism, marriage, and
burial, with dates, will be specially valued.
Branches of the family settled in Essex, Sussex,
Oxfordshire, and in Virginia, United States.
EEGINALD STEWART BODDINGTON.
15, Markham Square, S.W.
SIR D. K. SANDFORD. — Who was it that in-
terrupted the late Sir Daniel K. Sandford, then
Member for Paisley, while making his speech in
the House of Commons on the Jewish Disabilities
Bill, with the exclamation —
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[5th S. I. APRIL 11, 74.
" A second
Daniel come to judgment " '!
It lias generally been attributed to Dan. O'Connell,
but some allege that the late Lord Derby, then
Lord or Mr. Stanley, gave expression to the famous
Shakspearian quotation which proved the death-
blow to poor Sandford's political career.
ST. MINENS.
CHURCHILL — WIDVILLE. — In all, or, at any
rate, in most of the pedigrees which I have seen,
I find a note of interrogation after this : " Charles
Churchill=Margaret daughter and co-heiress of
Sir Wm. Widville (brother of Eichd. Earl Rivers)."
Can any of your readers inform rne why such a
query should so appear ? CHURCHILL.
VARIA. — Will any one kindly help me in the
following matters ? —
1. I want to recover a quatrain commencing (as
far as I can recollect) —
•" And they have left — those southern knights — the land
they loved so well,"
iind closing with a description of the chase in the
Pyrenean breeze.
2. Who was T. Allington 1 and did he publish
anything besides a small volume of poems ?
3. Who was the author of The, Forging of the
Anchor ? and did he ever write anything else 1
4. Can any one direct me to a song (modern, I
believe) whose refrain, if not title, is —
" Poverty parts good company" ?
T. W. WEBB.
JAMES, THIRD EARL OF MARLBOROUGH. — How
and where was James, third Earl of Marlborough,
employed between 1642 and 1655 ? I need hardly
add that he was a royalist. All the brief notices
of him which I have seen repeat that he was " Lord
Admiral of all His Majesty's ships at Dartmouth
and parts adjacent," without stating when or by
whom appointed. He was in Boston, in New
England, in the summer of 1637.
C. W. TUTTLE.
Boston, U.S.A.
" DAVID'S TEARES." — Turning over a bundle of
unbound tracts with a friend the other day (one
was the original edition of James I.'s Counter-
blaste !), we found one bearing the above title, but
the title-page was unfortunately lost. Can any
one replace it for rne, and tell me who the author
I should also be glad to learn if there is any
translation of this tedious poem in French or
English. W. M. M.
SHERLOCK OF KILKENNY, OR WEXFORD. —
What were the arms of this family, residing in
either county during the fifteenth century ?
H. SHERLOCK.
was, and whether it is of any rarity ?
PELAGIUS.
THE BURIAL OF SIR JOHN MOORE. — Did a
soldier named B. Denby, regiment unknown, form
one of the funeral party at the burial of Sir John
Moore ? There may be in some book a list of the
names of the burial party. Is any such record in
existence ? T. B.
CARDINAL RICHELIEU AND THE BAKER'S SON. —
I recently read an anecdote in a French newspaper,
that a son, who had lost his father (a baker), asked
the Cardinal how many masses should be said to
free his father from purgatory, and that the Car-
dinal replied, " As many as the number of snow-
balls which would be required to heat a baker's
oven !" What is the authoritv for this story?
N.
ROGER DANIEL, THE CAMBRIDGE UNIVERSITY
PRINTER. — Is there extant a complete list of the
works from the press of this famous printer, who
died about 1650, and where may a notice of him
be found 1 I quite expected to find a notice of
him in Mr. Coopers new and careful Biographical
Dictionary. The reputation which the University
press acquired in Daniel's time for typographical
beauty and exactness, is referred to in one of the
letters in Parr's Life of UssJier, in .connexion with
the Latin edition of Davenant On the Colossians.
J. E. B.
LORD MACAULAY. — In his essay on Moore's
Life of Byron (vol. i., p. 317), he says, —
"We remember to have seen a mob assembled in
Lincoln's Inn to hoot a gentleman, against whom the
most oppressive proceeding known to the English law
was then in progress."
Some of your readers, of an older generation,
will doubtless be able to explain the allusion.
F. STORR.
Marlborough.
" FULVIUS VALENS ; or, the Martyr of Ceserea,"
a Tragedy, 1823.— Who is the author? This play
is reviewed in The Drama, Jan. 1824, vol. v.
R. INGLIS.
THE JERUSALEM CONQUISTADA OF LOPE DE
YEGA. — Will any one who has a perfect copy
kindly tell me how many strophes there ought to
be in libro XX. 1 My copy (Barcelona, 1619) is
imperfect after xxxvi., ending
" Solo aquel lien^o que cortado avia.''
Miss ELIZABETH POLACK. — Can you give me
any biographical particulars regarding the author
of Esther, the Royal Jewess, a drama, in three acts,
performed at the Pavilion Theatre, 7th March,
1835, and St. Glair of the Isles, a drama, in three
act?, performed in 1838, at the Victoria Theatre 1
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289'*
In a volume of original papers contributed to
Dudley Castle Miscellany, I860, printed for a
bazaar in aid of the fund for the repair of Coseley
Church, there is a poem by Elizabeth Polack. Is
this poetess of 1860 the same as the author of the
dramas? R. INGLIS.
" SCAVAGE." — In Charles I.'s reign, a charter
was granted to the City of London confirming the
office for the scavage, surveying, baillage, package,
carriage, and postage of all goods. What does
scavage mean ? C. A. W.
Mayfair.
AUTHORS WANTED. —
" Surely this is the birthday of no .crief,
That dawns so pleasantly along the skies."
FREDK. RULE.
Where shall I find a poem beginning —
" Let us hope on, for whatso'er our lot,
However rough the path we have to tread
We never by our Father are forgot.
Some blessing is upon our pathway shed."
H. C. B.
" SOXGS AND FANCIES, to three, four, or five Parts,
both apt for Voices and Viols, with a brief Introduction
to Music, as is taught by Thomas Davidson in the Music-
school of Aberdeen, published in 1666."
If any readers of " N. & Q." can help me to any
information in regard to this Thomas Davidson or
his family, and if he left any descendants, they
will confer a great favour upon L. D.
THE BOOK OF JASHER. — Can any one give me
information about this book 1 An English version
was published in 1829 at Bristol (Rose), said to be
of a copy found in the last century. The original
is stated to have been seen and translated by
Alcuin, Abbot of Canterbury, who made it from a
Hebrew copy found in the city of Gazna, in Persia.
E. L. BLENKINSOPP.
SWANSWICK, SOMERSET. — In connexion with
this place there is a tradition respecting " Bladud
and his pigs." Can any one give me any infor-
mation on this ? C. H. POOLE.
[Bath enjoys the tradition that King Bladud, being
reduced by leprosy to the condition of a swineherd, dis-
covered the medicinal virtues of the hot springs of that
city while noticing that his pigs, which bathed therein,
were cured of sundry diseases. See "N. & Q." 2"'1 S. ix.
45, 110, 289.]
AVERAGE DURATION OF HUMAN LIFE. — Some
questions are suggested by MR. THOMS'S interesting
papers, which probably some of your readers can
answer.
1. What is the average duration of human life
including all from birth ?
2. What is the average duration of life after
twenty, or twenty-one, on which the calculations
of insurance societies are based ?
3. As only healthy lives are accepted by these
societies, what is the per-centage of applicants for
insurance rejected ]
MR. THOMS has pointed out the errors of regis-
tration, but so far as the insurance companies'
business extends they ought to have very precise
information. M. D.
" SWITZERLAND." — "The works of Miss Porter,"
says the writer of a short memoir of Jane Porter,
" have frequently been attributed to her sister,
Miss Anna Maria Porter, and vice versa. Miss
A. M. Porter, though her sister's junior, began her
literary career first ; and we have from her pen
The Lake of Killarney, The Hungarian Brothers,
Don Sebastian, &c." — Monthly Mirror, Dec., 1810.
Jane Porter wrote Thaddeus of Warsaw, and The
Scottish Chiefs, but which of these ladies was the
author of a play having the above title ?
CHARLES WYLIE.
[Jane Porter wrote Switzerland. It was produced at
Drury Lane, in 1819. Edmund Kean sustained the
principal part, Eugene; but the play was a complete
failure, and was not acted a second time.]
MOTHER OLIVER. — Who was Mother Oliver,
and where did she reside ? From the allusion that
I have seen to her, I presume she was the presiding
genius of some rendezvous, patronized by dissipated
young men of fashion, towards the close of the last
century. M. O.
"A TOWN ECLOGUE, Edinburgh, Printed for the
Author by Oliver & Co. Sold by John Buchanan,
North Bridge, 1804."— Who is the author of this
clever satirical poem 'I The author, a strong Tory,
in his attacks on the opposite party, does not 'err
on the side of weakness. A. T.
A STUBBORN FACT.
(4th S. xii. 69 ; 5th S. i. 13, 132.)
MR. WARREN (p. 13), in commenting on the
account given by MR. RALPH N. JAMES of an
alleged apparition having appeared to Captain
— , whose brother was killed in the Crimea,
makes the admission that be thinks no man who
has considered the subject can " deny the possi-
bility of an actual apparition of a disembodied
spirit." It is satisfactory to the believers in spiritual
appearances (of whom I avow myself one) to find
that the criticism of MR. JAMES'S statement pro-
ceeds from one who is thus far willing to view the
alleged appearance in a fair light. Unfortunately,
however, the greater portion of the community —
at least of those who publish their thoughts on the
subject — argue from the outset with a firm convic-
tion of the utter impossibility of the apparition of
a disembodied spirit, treating it as a foregone con-
clusion, that no such form of existence as spiritual
is possible, believing only in materialistic pheno-
290
NOTES AND QUERIES. p* s. i. APRIL n, 74.
mena, scouting all statements of spiritual appari-
tions as absurd and beneath contempt, and
ridiculing every person who believes in such
statements as fools, or denouncing them as im-
postors. It is, of course, useless to reason with
sceptics of this class, who have formed an idea of
their own infallibility, who are firmly wedded to
materialist dogmatism, and whose uniform rule is
to deride every statement which comes into collision
with their prejudices. The only persons who are
fit to inquire are those who do so free from pre-
judice, who will submit to the usual conditions
under which inquiry is made, and who prefer the
possible discovery of new truths to the retention
of cherished prepossessions. Happily, there have
been noble exceptions to the rule I have mentioned
among men of science, materialists, and others,
who have satisfied themselves, by personal inquiry,
of the actual appearance of so-called " apparitions."
The remark that stories of this kind come second-
hand does not always apply. A near relative of
mine, a year before his death, told me on the day
of its occurrence, or the day after, of the appari-
tion of a person to him, fully believing it to be
real; so much so that he rose for the purpose of
ringing the bell, to order out the intruder. A
lady whom I knew — shrewd, intelligent, and not
credulous — sitting in her lodgings in Paris, saw
her father in a chair opposite to her; and so im-
pressed with the apparition was she that she said
to the figure, " Why, father, what brings you
here?" She relates that she rose to make provi-
'sion for her father's reception, but, on turning
round to speak to him, found he had disappeared.
A letter from England — from her father's place of
abode — reached her shortly after, informing her of
her father's decease about the very time of the
presence of his apparition in Paris. Your corre-
spondent asks what end did the appearance of the
officer who received his death-wound in Eussia
serve, by informing his brother of the sad fact 1
It is not always possible to know, from our earthly
standpoint, what purpose Providence permits to
be served by extraordinary events; but it does
not follow that because we do not know it, no end
is served. The point is, is the evidence on which
such statements are made trustworthy 1 If your
correspondents would not think me unreasonable
in so doing, I would beg to recommend to them
the careful perusal of the Footfalls on the Boun-
daries of Another World, by Robert Dale Owen,
in which they will find a multitude of relations,
the truth of which it would be difficult for any
unprejudiced person to dispute; and of reasonings
the cogency and fairness of which it would be
equally difficult for any candid opponent to dis-
prove. Mr. Owen's writings derive all the more
weight and importance from the fact of his havin^
been originally a very firm adherent to the mate"
rialistic philosophy. The time may arrive when
liis subject can be discussed in a rational and
friendly spirit; and then many matters may be
elicited which will not come to light so long as
jvery opprobrious epithet and unjust aspersion
s thrown at those who venture to express their
relief in a spiritual world and spiritual phenomena,
JAYTEE.
The following may also prove interesting. It
was related by the Eev. D. Thomas, D.D., Minister
of Stockwell Independent Chapel, in one of a
Bourse of lectures he delivered in 1864-5, and
which were subsequently published in The Honvi-
list, of which he is or was the editor. He says the
inecdote was well authenticated : —
" The late Rev. Mr. Bowden, of Darwin, relates the
Allowing dream, which he wrote down as he received it
Tom the lips of the clergyman whose dream it was: — A
clergyman, exhausted with the public duties of the Sun-
day morning and afternoon, retired to his apartment for
an hour's sleep in order to refresh him for the services-
of the evening. In his sleep he dreamt that he entered
his garden, sat down in his bower, there to read and
meditate. While thus employed he heard a footstep ap-
proaching; he went forth to meet the •visitor. The
visitor was a brother clergyman of brilliant talents, and
wondrously popular. His countenance was covered with
a gloom of sadness, and his looks indicated great agita-
tion of soul. His distressed clerical visitor asked him
the time of day, to which he replied, twenty-five minutes
past four. On hearing this he exclaimed, ' It is only
one hour since I died, and here I am damned ! '
Damned ! ' said the other, ' for what ] ' ' It is not,*
said the visitor, ('because I have not preached the Gos-
el, nor because I have not been useful, but because I
.ave sought the praise of men rather than of God, and
I have my reward.' On hearing this, the minister woke
from his sleep with the awful dream pressing on his
heart. He went forth to his church to conduct the
evening service. On his way he was accosted by a friend
who inquired whether he had heard of the severe loss
the Church had sustained in the death of their minister '{
He replied ' No,' and inquired the day and the hour
when the event took place. The reply was, 'This
afternoon at twenty-five minutes past three o'clock.' "
Dr. Thomas also mentions a case, the details of
which are too lengthy to add to this note, in which
a family of seven were converted through a dream
which their father had, and related to them.
LAYCAUMA.
As MR. WARREX does not seem to have made
up his mind upon the matter, he will, no doubt,
excuse my saying that his conclusions are not very
conclusive. Yet, as he appears to assume that
both Captain and I think the case was one
of what MR. WARREN terms " an actual appear-
ance," I will remind him that for the individual
wlio sees another person — he believed to be at the
time a thousand miles away— the apparition is
" an actual apparition," no matter how the effect
is produced upon his own brain. Nevertheless,
the evidence of a witness whose veracity cannot
be doubted is better than that of the person who
sees the apparition, as the latter may have been
5th S. I. Ami, 11, '74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
291
delirious for a short time. And, therefore, in this
case, although the brother in England always de-
clared for years afterwards that he had seen his
brother, I do not attach much weight to his testi-
mony. It is because Captain assured me
that his friend was certainly wide awake and did
not show any signs of excitement — beyond what
were natural under the circumstances — combined
with the coincidence of his brother's death in the
Crimea— that, to my mind, the story is one of the
most remarkable I remember to have heard or read.
EALPH N. JAMES.
Ashford, Kent.
MART CARLETON, "THE GERMAN PRINCESS"
(5th S. i. 228.) — Turning over the leaves of one of
Granger's volumes, I chanced upon the following
account of " the German Princess," for whose his-
tory your correspondent asks : —
" ' The true original picture of Mary Carleton, also
called by the name of the German Princess ; as it was
taken by her own order, in the year 1663.' Jo. Ch.
(Chantry) sc. Before her ' Life,' 1673 ; 12mo. Clavel,
in his ' Catalogue,' mentions a narrative of her life,
different from this.
"MART CARLETON, called the German Princess, ^Et suce
38. /. Caulfield.
" This woman, who had more alias's to her name than
any rogue in the kingdom, was the daughter of a
musician at Canterbury. Her first husband was a shoe-
maker of that city, from whom she eloped after four
years' cohabitation. In a year or two after her elope-
ment, she married one Day a surgeon, whom she soon
forsook, and went into France and Germany, where she
learned the languages of those countries, and robbed and
cheated several persons. Soon after her return to Eng-
land, she was married to John Carleton, the son of a
citizen in London, who pretended to be a nobleman.
This man, as well as many others, is said to have taken
her for a German Princess, at least a woman of quality.
She was soon after tried at the Old Baily for Bigamy,
and acquitted : upon this she published an artful vindica-
tion of herself, to wMch was prefixed her portrait. She
was afterwards an actress in one of the theatres. The
rest of her life is a continued course of theft, robbery,
and imposture ; in which, as she had a quick invention,
great cunning, and an insinuating address, she was,
perhaps, never exceeded. — If Mary Carleton had actually
been a princess, she had parts sufficient to have thrown
a kingdom into confusion ; and might have done as much
mischief as Catharine de Medicis did in Prance, or Hen-
rietta Maria in England. Executed 1672."- — Granger's
Biographical History of England, vol. vi. pp. 21, 22,
edition 1824.
This may be supplemented by an extract from
the MS. " Notes on Biographies, by Edward
Harley, Earl of Oxford " (Harl. MS. 7544), which
were printed in 2nd S. " N. & Q.," vol. ix. p. 418:—
" CARLETON (Mary), alias Mary Moders, alias Mary
Stedman, called the German Princess. Memoirs of her
Life, by J. G., 12mo. 1676. The Case of Madam Mary
Carleton, styled the German Princess. By the said Mary
Carleton, 12mo., 1663. She was executed at Tyburn,
Jan. 22, 1672-3. At the end of the year 1732 comes out
the Life of Mary Moders, alias, said to be the second
edition. The meaning of printing this was upon a story
that John Barber, Mayor of London that year, was her
natural son, got upon her in Newgate, and bred up a
devil to a printing-house ; but as to his birth it is not so :
the other, I believe, is true, that he was born in Wales."
These accounts of the " Princess " explain Mr.
Pepys's entries in his Diary : —
"[May, 1663.] 29th.— This day is kept strictly as a
holy-day, being the King's Coronation. Creed and I
abroad, and called at several churches To the
Royall Theatre, but they not acting to-day, then to the
Duke's house, and there saw ' The Slighted Mayde ' . . . .
Then with Creed to see the German Princesse, at the
Gate-house at Westminster."
"[June, 1663.] 7th. (Lord's day.) .... After church
to Sir W. Batten's ; where my Lady Batten inveighed
mightily against the German Princess, and I as high in
the defence of her wit and spirit, and glad that she is
cleared at the Sessions."
" [April, 1664.] loth To the Duke's house
and there saw ' The German Princesse ' acted by
the woman herself; but never was anything so well
done in earnest, worse performed in jest upon the stage.
And indeed the whole play, abating the drollery of him
that acts her husband, is very simple, unless, here and
there, a witty sprinkle or two."
Lord Braybrooke says the play The German
Princesse was by Holden ; but the author of Some
Account of the English Stage, from the Restora-
tion in 1660 to 1830 (Bath, 1832) thinks that it
was, no doubt, the same play as the Witty Combat,
which was printed in 1663, with the following
title :—
" A Witty Combat ; or, the Female Victor, a Tragi-
Comedy, as it was acted by persons of quality in Whitsun-
week with great applause. Written by T. P., Gent."
The writer of The English Stage goes on : —
" The quality of the persons who acted was not very
great. The heroine was tried for bigamy in June, 1663,
and acquitted for want of evidence. She seems to have
published her case soon after her acquittal. Of course
she told her story as much to her own advantage as she
could. It was briefly as follows : She took up her abode
at the Exchange Tavern in March, 1663 ; she gradually
intimated that she was a person of greater rank and
fortune than she appeared to be ; the woman of the
house, at last believing her to be a German Princess, in-
troduced her brother, John Carleton, to her. He was a
lawyer's clerk, but he afterwards pretended to be a Lord,
and that he had made his first appearance to her in
disguise. On Easter Monday they were married.
" T. P. has dramatized the story, adding some few
characters of no importance. Madam Moders, alias Mary
Carleton, concludes the play with an address to the
audience. This is after her trial. The author evidently
considered her as a swindler. A second edition of her
life was published without a date, but doubtless soon
after her execution on Jan. 22, 1678. An Appendix is
added, the writer of which says : ' She was so famous,
that, I believe, had she been exposed to public view for
profit, she might have raised £500 of those that would
have given sixpence and a shilling a piece to see her ; it
was the only talk for all the places of public resort in
and near London.' "
From the time of her acquittal she seems to
have chiefly supported herself by swindling. She
was hanged for stealing a piece of plate. The
writer of the Appendix adds : —
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5th S. I. APRIL 11, 74.
"She appeared for a short time upon the Duke's
Theatre, and once performed in a play after her own
name, the German Princess ; there was a great confluence
of people to behold her, yet she did not perform so well
as was expected, but there was great applause bestowed
upon her." — Vol. i. pp. 51-53.
Beading.this, one cannot help being reminded of
another notorious criminal, who in later times was
" exposed to public view for profit," and upon
whom " was great applause bestowed."
SPARKS HENDERSON WILLIAMS, F.E.H.S.
18, Kensington Crescent, W.
BROWNING'S " LOST LEADER " (4th S. xii. 473,
519 ; 5th S. i. 71, 138, 192, 213.)— I am glad (and
sorry) to find that the poet himself confirms niy
belief that this so-called Lost Leader is Words-
worth. Wordsworth did not change his ground in
politics so completely as Southey did ; and on
those fields in which his leadership is most to be
valued, he remained always, and still remains, a
leader incomparable and unique. But now-a-days,
the question rather is, what has become of his
following ] I well remember how he led us, and
whither, in the spiritual conflicts of our college
days ; I remember the reverence with which I
looked upon his little home at Grasmere, and the
still deeper love and awe which possessed me when
I saw the man himself, his tall, bent figure, his
white hair, his loose and rustic suit of shepherd's
plaid. To the youth and young manhood of
twenty years ago, the "leadership" of his chief
poems, and specially of that immortal ode, was
transcendent, and has often been abiding ; but
whom, to the same degree and extent, does he in-
fluence now ? Last autumn, I went, with another,
through the Lake country for the thousandth time.
We stayed at the chief hotels in every part of it,
from Keswick southward to Grange ; and never
once did we see a copy of his works in any of them,
or hear him quoted, or hear his name so much as
mentioned.
The Works of Mr. Dickens, Miss Braddon, Mrs.
Wood, were, however, visible in abundance ; and
we may fairly presume that the demand produced
the supply in this direction and forbade it in the
other. At Grasmere, it must be confessed, a
certain form of respect is still paid to Words-
worth's memory. Tourists from beyond the At-
lantic pursue it into the little church, and it has
been my privilege to see the British father sit
whistling on that wall (no longer low and homely)
which faces the poet's grave.
Calling on a lady who resides near Ambleside,
an intelligent and cultivated woman, I mentioned
this state of things, and she replied, that to the
best of her belief Wordsworth is now little read
and little cared for in his own neighbourhood.
Perhaps the natives and the tourists agree with
that plump and sonsy dame, once landlady of the
" Salutation," who told me, in her cheery way,
that she did not think much of Wordsworth : he
was a morose and selfish body, and she much pre-
ferred (and rightly, from her point of view) poor
Hartley Coleridge. She it was who, when I tried
to explain to her the meaning of her sign,
the " Salutation," answered, with eager appre-
hension, " Aye, aye, Sir ; it '11 ha' summat te do
wi' Sahaation, naw doot ! " A. J. MUNB r.
Temple.
Can any one suppose that Mr. Browning, or any
other grown-up poet, really took Wordsworth for
a " leader " in any form of mere political partizan-
ship, Whig, Tory, or Radical 1 That Mr. Browning
may have mystified some troublesome querist by
some such hint is possible enough. Any one who
asked the question must have assumed Mr. Browning
to be himself a follower in some political clique of
which Wordsworth was regarded as "leader."
Probably the same querist would want to know
why Mr. Browning had such a dislike to " Brother
Lawrence," or how he came to say that he " was
never out of England " when commenting on Ga-
luppr s toccata. One can imagine that poets would
answer wildly when pestered by such matter-of-
fact popinjays. There is a lyric of Shelley's be-
ginning—
" Oh ! there are spirits in the air,"
evidently referring to his own feelings in some
melancholy mood. Mrs. Shelley speaks of them
as " addressed in idea to Coleridge." No doubt
Shelley evaded the questions on the subject by
some suggestion of the kind.
C. G. PROWETT.
GLEBUSPENSKY (5th S. i. 227.)— In reply to MR.
H. .NELSON'S query as to whether "any of the
writings of the Eussian author Glebuspensky or
Gogol (or Gogoe ?) have been translated into Eng-
lish," I may observe that the name of Glebus-
pensky is evidently due to a clerical error. There
are several Eussian writers named Uspensky.
None of their writings, so far as I know, have
been translated into English. Of some of Gogol's
writings English translations exist. The Christ-
mas Eve and Tarass Bulba were translated by
George Tolstoy, in 1860, under the title of Cossack
Tales; and the terrible tale of The Vy figures
among the " Ghost Stories " edited by Mr. Hain
Friswell. A " transmogrification " of Gogol's great
work, styled Dead Souls, was published as an
original work, in 1854, under the title of Home
Life in Russia. A literary adventurer translated
and adapted Gogol's story, and then passed it off'
as his own production. The fraud was exposed,
thanks to the wonderful knowledge of the late
Mr. Thomas Watts, of the British Museum, in
the Athenaeum. But the claimer of the author-
ship utterly refused to be convicted, and wrote a
reply to Mr. Watts's criticism, which is worthy of
5th S. I. Ai-RiL 11, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
293
being studied as a specimen of consummate im-
pudence. W. R. S. RALSTON.
Translations of Gogol's Tales, and other works
(by Marmier, Viardot, Moreau, and Charriere),
which have appeared in French, may be useful to
your correspondent. E. A. P.
"THE NIGHT CROW" (5th S. i. 25, 114.)— To
R. & M. I return my best acknowledgments for
the interesting reply on this subject. It is singular
that this part of the striking passage in Shakspeare's
Third Part of King Henry VI. has not been
explained by his commentators. " The Night
Crow " cannot mean the Owl, the Raven, or the
Pie. Willughby, it appears, says that the shy,
solitary, marsh frequenting, and now rare bird, the
Bittern, is the Night Raven, at whose deadly voice
the superstitious wanderer of the dark paled and
trembled, believing that its holloAv sounding cry
portended his death or that of some near relative.
This beautiful bird has, from its singular habits
and nightly cry in the swampy, sedgy, and un-
frequented retreats it loves, received several local
names, such as the Bull of the Bog, Bog Bumper,
Mire Dram, &c., and the poets have alluded to it
more than once : —
" At evening, o'er the swampy plain
The Bittern's boom came far.""
" The Bittern booms along the sounding marsh."
" Even as the savage sits upon the stone
That marks where stood her capitols, and hears
The Bittern booming in the weeds, he shrinks
From the dismaying solitude."
This bird is one of the emblems or signs of desola-
tion in the Bible. See Zephaniah, chap, ii., v. 14,
" The Cormorant and the Bittern shall lodge in
the upper lintels of it ; their voice shall sing in
the windows ; desolation shall be in the thresholds."
Isaiah likewise, when speaking of Babylon, says,
chap, xiv., v. 23, " I will also make it a possession
for the Bittern, and pools of water."
Bewick states that the Night Heron is called
the Night Raven. Night Raven and Night Crow
are probably synonymous.
Can any of the contributors to " N. & Q." throw
more light on the subject, or give other quotations
from the poets on the Bittern } It is singular that
Shakspeare's plays contain no allusion to the
Bittern, and only one to the Heron, although those
birds were so much flown at in the then most
knightly and noble of all " sports," namely, hawk-
ing. What is the derivation of the Bittern's name ?
GEORGE R. JESSE.
GREEN GAGE (3rd S. iii. 449, 493.)— The origin,
of the name is simply that tke plum was brought
into England, about the middle of the last century,
by the Kev. John Gage, Roman Catholic priest, in
some way connected with a monastery or con-
ventual establishment in France, I think near
Fontainebleau. The laws of that time against
Roman Catholic priests were so severe that Mr.
Gage lived abroad, but frequently visited his
brother, Sir Thomas Gage, of Hengrave Hall, near
Coldham in the county of Suffolk, fifth baronet. In
one of these visits he brought over, from" the garden
of the monastery, grafts of this excellent fruit tree,
whichjWere cultivated in the garden at Hengrave
Hall, and soon were spread throughout England.
This statement is correct ; the writer of this note
(aged 76) has frequently heard the story from her
mother, whose family were near neighbours, and
most intimate friends, of the Gage family, now
extinct — the last baronet dying two or three years?
since without issue. F. Z.
"PUT TO BUCK". (5th S. i. 228.)— To buck (as
the readers of the Merry Wives of Windsor will
remember) is an old word for to wash, wet, or
soak : another instance of it is in Fabyan, v. i. ch.
243, " there fell such plete of water y' the groude
was therwith so bucked and drowned." I think,
therefore, that the phrase MR. PENGELLY asks
about must refer to sweat, the natural result of
difficult work. CHARLES F. S. WARREN, M.A.
No doubt this is an abbreviation of "put to
buckle," that is, giving the mind to work. The
allusion is to buckling on one's armour or belt. In
Slmkspeare, Macbeth, v. 2, we find —
" He cannot buckle his distemper'd cause
Within the belt of rule."
C. H. POOLE.
S. Alban Hall, Oxford.
DR. THOMAS GORDON, OF PETERHEAD (4th S.
xii. 516), appears to have been a son of Gordon of
Coynach, of what descent I cannot say, but not
directly, at least, from the Gordons of Pitburg and
Straloch. I may add that the " bordure or " added
by Nisbet, in his Heraldry, to the arms of the
last-named family is an error. They have, from
the beginning, borne merely the plain coat of
Gordon without any mark of difference.
SCOTUS.
BARDOLF OF WIRMEGAY (5th S. i. 227.) —
According to the Bardolf pedigree given in the
Patent Rolls for 10 H. IV., Part 2, and 19 H. VI.,
Part 2, Hugh Lord Bardolf had two sons, Thomas,
who died issueless, and William, father of Thomas,
who continued the family.
John Bardolf died July 31, 1363, set. 50. He
was therefore born in 1313. He and Elizabeth
his wife are named on the back of the Patent
Roll for 3 E. III., Part 2 (1329). He was there-
fore married to Elizabeth d'Amorie when or before
he was sixteen ; so that the testimony of chronology
gives a negative answer to the second question.
According to Burke and Dugdale, the last Lord
294
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5th S. I. APRIL 11, '74.
Bardolf died of wounds received at Brainham Moor
(not in 5 H. IV., but Feb. 29, 1408), but his body
was quartered, and his head set upon one of the
gates of Lincoln. Speed states that Lord Bardolf
died of his wounds. Stowe says, " He was taken
alive, but died shortly after." HERMENTRUDE.
ST. GODWALD (5th S. i. 240.)— He is no doubt
identical with St. Gudwall, who is commemorated
on June 6, and whose life will be found under that
date in Alban Butler and Baring-Gould.
JAMES BRITTEN.
JENICO (5th S. i. 169.)— In the year 1395, Janico
D'Artois, a Gascon knight, was assigned eight
messuages and four carucates of land in Bright
and Kossglass ; and in 1427 Jenico Dartas was
seized of the lands of Lysmoghan. Now, all these
places are situated near the Ards, formerly the
lordship of the family of Savage, and it is quite
possible that this Janico was in some way con-
nected with MR. SAVAGE'S ancestor. I am in-
clined to think that Jenkin is a corruption of
Jenico. WM. JACKSON PIGOTT.
Dundrum, co. Down.
" THE ONLY MOON I SEE, BIDDY," &c. (4th S. xii.
309), is in the Orpheus C. Kcrr Papers, American
Edition in 3 vols. MARCUS CLARKE.
Melbourne Public Library.
CLOGSTOUN FAMILY (5th S. i. 208.) — I met an
officer of this name some years ago (1859) in India :
Capt. Herbert Mackworth Clogstoun, 19th Regt.
Madras Nat. Infantry, but then serving in the
2nd Regt. of the Nizam's cavalry at Hydrabad.
This may help to guide A. L. in his quest.
W. E.
SIR EALPH COBHAM (5th S. i. 208.) — He was
one of the numerous family of John de Cobham, of
Kent, and Joan de Septvans. He died Feb. 5,
1326, so that he cannot have married Mary de
Braose after the death of Thomas de Brotherton in
1338. He left one son, John, born (according to
three different membranes of Ralph's Inquisition}
on Dec. 18, Jan. 2, or Feb. 3, 1324-5. The first
date is the most likely, since it is not a saint's day.
I have learned to be very cautious of accepting the
statements of Dugdale, unless confirmed by con-
temporary documentary authority.
HERMENTRUDE.
P.S. — The arms of Cobham of Kent are, Gu.,
on a chevron or, three lions passant sa.
The following, compiled and abridged, from
Burke's Extinct Peerage, pp. 124, 125, will
answer J. F. M. : —
" John Cobham, sheriff of Kent 26 Hen. III., m. 1st
, dau. of Warine Fitz-Benedict, by whom two sons,
John and Henry; and 2ndly, Joan, dau. of Hugh Neville,
by whom another son, Reginald.
" From the eldest, John, came the Barons Cobham, of
Kent, extinct by attainder, 1603; the youngest, Reginald,
was ancestor of the Barons Cobham of Sterborough, also
extinct ; the second, Henry, was governor of Guernsey,
temp. Edw. I.; he married Joan, dau. and co-h. of
Stephen de Pencestre, and had two sons, Stephen,
summoned as Baron Cobham of Rundell 20 Edw. II., and
Ralph, summoned as Baron Cobham of Norfolk 18
Edw. IT. He married Mary, dau. of William, Lord Roos,
and widow of Thomas of Brotherton, and died 1325.
" Arms of Cobham, gules on a chevron, or three lions
rampant sable."
So Burke, and I have copied him truly ; but it
is obvious to the meanest capacity that, if Lord
Cobham died in 1325, his wife never could have
been widow of Thomas of Brotherton, who (Burke
also says) died in 1338. But Burke is in the
utmost confusion on these points. If we combine
his various statements, we get this intricate con-
nexion, which is equal to anything we have had
in "N. & Q.,"— that the widow of Thomas of
Brotherton's son married the grandson of Thomas
of Brotherton's second wife. I shall not try to
clear things up ; but I ask that favour of HERMEN-
TRUDE, who will do it ever so much better. The
hitch is plainly in the confusion which she mentions
at 4th S. xii. 523.
CHARLES F. S. WARREN, M.A.
SHIRLEY FAMILY (5th S. i. 248.)— S. desires to
know whether the late Henry Shirley, of the
Coldstream Guards, of Etindon (not Eatington),
and Hyde Hall, Jamaica, and late of Pepingford,
Sussex, was descended from Dr. Thomas Shirley,
physician to Charles II. 1 I answer decidedly in
the negative ; nor is it by any means correct to say
that " the pedigree of this branch of the Shirley
family has never been fully investigated, although
there are ample materials." I have lately printed
a second edition of Stemmata Shirleiana, where
everything relating to the different branches of my
family has been collected, and a notice will be
found of the Shirleys (properly Sherdleys) of
Jamaica, I may add that the late Mr. Henry
Shirley, referred to by S., was grandson of Henry,
who changed his name from Sherdley to Shirley,
minister at Turin, who died in 1767, who was one
of the sons of Henry Sherdley, of Orrnskirk, in
Lancashire, who died there aged eighty-two, in
1759.
Dr. Thomas Shirley, physician to Charles II.,
left issue by his first wife two daughters, Anne
and Margaret ; by his second wife he had two
sons, Thomas and Richard, and one daughter,
Elizabeth, but nothing is known of their future
fate. E. P. SHIRLEY.
PETER MEW, BISHOP OF BATH AND WELLS
(5th S. i. 247.)— There is a good portrait of him in
the President's Lodgings, Magdalen College, Ox-
ford. The black patch on the cheek is sufficiently
prominent. The late venerable Dr. Routh told me
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what he called "a merry tale" respecting the
Bishop. He was taking a young lady in to dinner
one "day, when the company observed that the
black patch had flown from his cheek to hers.
J. R. B.
ST. BERNARD OF CLAIRVAUX (5th S. i. 228.) —
I copy the following from Mr. Morison's Life and
Times of St. Bernard, revised edition, 1868 : —
" I am happy to acknowledge my obligations to the
Rev. W. B. Flower, B. A., who has translated a collection
of St. Bernard's sermons [for the seasons of the church].
.... Mr. Flower has, on the whole, shown judgment and
taste in the execution of his by no means inviting labour
of translation. But I must, notwithstanding, add that
he has not shown a scrupulous regard for accuracy, and
that I have felt compelled, in several cases, to correct
his work" (pp. 326-27, note).
In addition to the extracts from sermons, Mr.
Morison has embodied in his work numerous
extracts from the Epistles and other writings. As
he makes no acknowledgment for these translations,
and the references made are to Mabillon's edition
of St. Bernard's Works (Latin, 1690), I presumee
the renderings are his own, and given in th
absence of any other. The London Catalogue'
1843, gives the title "Four Homilies of St.
Bernard." I have met with a small sixpenny
volume called The Flowers of Saint Bernard.
E. A. P.
QUEEN ANNS SQUARE (5th S. i. 248.)— This
square was quite distinct from Queen Ann Street.
In 1769 there were two streets of this name, which
ran west and east from Foley House. The former,
which was named Great Queen Ann Street, is now
Queen Ann Street ; the latter, which was at first
called Little Queen Ann Street, became Queen
Ann Street East, then Foley Place, and is now
Langham Street. Queen Ann Square was laid out
north of the gardens of Foley House, just at the
south end of the present Portland Place. The
exact site it was to have occupied may be seen in
the map to Chamberlain's History of London,
1770. I do not know whether the ground was
part of the property left in 1755 by the Earl of
Oxford to his Countess ; but if it was, her death,
which took place in 1774, might perhaps lead to
considerable changes in the intended building
arrangements at that time. EDWARD SOLLY.
NAME OF BOOK WANTED (5th S. i. 248.) —
The story of the old house at Werndee mentioned
by your correspondent is to be found in Coxe's
History of Monmouthshire, 1801, page 205. The
owner of the dilapidated residence was a Mr.
Proger.
Werndee is in Monmouthshire, and not Shrop-
shire. The story was related to Coxe on the spot
by his guide, a Mr. Dinwoody, a gentleman resident
in the neighbourhood of Werndee. A still more
characteristic story of Mr. Proger, relating to the
contest for precedence between the rival houses of
Perthir and Werndee, is given by Coxe in the
same volume, p. 316. I. E. N.
Wilton, Wilts.
THE MORGUE (5th S. i. 248.): — Macchabee is
Parisian argot for a corpse. Cf. Dictionnaire de la
Langue Verte, Argots Parisiens Compares, par
Del van : —
" MACCHAB£E. Cadavre, dans 1'argot du peuple, qui
fait allusion, sans s'en douter, aux sept martyrs Chretiens
(sic).
" Mauvais Macchabee, individu trop gros et trop grand
qu'on est force de tasser, — dans 1'argot des pompes
lunebres."
This slang term doubtless refers to the incident
mentioned in 2 Mace. xii. 43-45.
A. L. MAYHEW.
Oxford.
I shall be obliged to MR. MILLER, or any other
correspondent of " N. & Q.," if he will inform me
where the' register of the dead bodies found in the
Seine and exposed in the Morgue can be inspected,
and whether any copy of such register exists in
England. ARTHUR JOHN KNAPP.
Llanfoist House, Clifton.
CHEVALIERS OF THE GOLDEN SPUR (5th S. i.
249.) — In Anderson's list of orders (Royal Genea-
logies, p. 725) I see an order founded by
Pius IV. in 1560, which, I think, though it has
not there the name he gives, must be the same
RHO inquires after. The knights of it are said to
be " the Pope's courtiers, and to carry his chair
on their shoulders when he goes abroad." One
would, therefore, think their county-palatine (if we
can call it so) consisted in this, and was not here-
ditary. CHARLES F. S. WARREN, M.A.
"To PUT HIS MONKEY UP " (5th S. i. 248.)—
The same idea in a variety of forms is found in
Welsh, but the Welsh word mwnci means a horse-
collar. Mwnci lledr, mivnci pren, mwnci brwyn,
mean respectively a collar of leather, of wood, of
rushes. Mwnci is derived from mwng, the mane,
and this probably from mwnwgl, the neck. Cf.
Torfynygltk = to decollate. The haims is known
in Glamorganshire as the homes and collar-homes.
T. C. UNNONE.
WINE IN SMOKE (5th S. i. 246.)— Referring to
my note on this subject, perhaps I may be per-
mitted to mention that, in my judgment, the sub-
jecting of wine to the action of smoke in ancient
times seems to render the words of Our Lord, in
St. Luke v. 37, still more impressively clear to our
understandings : —
" And no man putteth new wine into old bottles, else
the new wine will burst the bottles, and be spilled, and
the bottles shall perish. But new wine must be put into
new bottles, and both are preserved."
This passage will, I think, acquire additional
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force if we consider that old bottles, or rather old
wine-skins, which had been frequently set in
smoke, and thus become dry and brittle, would be
unable to resist the expansive force of the fermen-
tation of new wine, which would rend and burst
them, thus causing the loss of both wine and
vessel ; whereas if the new wine were put into a
fresh, elastic skin, both would be saved.
H. A. KENNEDY.
Waterloo Lodge, Reading.
" EYES WHICH ARE NOT EYES " (4th S. xi. 71.) —
This curious poem of De Porcher is strangely
paralleled by Edgar Poe's " To Helen " : —
" Only thine eyes remained ....
# * # :V * *
They fill my soul with beauty (which is hope),
And are far up in Heaven — the stars I kneel to
In the sad silent watches of my night ;
While even in the meridian glare of day
I see them still, two sweetly scintillant
Venuses, unextinguished by the sun."
MARCUS CLARKE.
Melbourne.
CROWING HENS (4th S. xi. xii. passim; 5th S.
i. 137.) — It may be of interest to those who have
lately touched on this subject to know that amongst
the negroes of the West Indies there is a very firm
belief that if a lien -crows in the yard there is sure
to be a death in the house. A curious instance of
the fulfilment of this and other like fancies came
within my own experience some years ago in the
island of Trinidad. A little child was lying very
ill in the house, when suddenly a hen, which we
had long possessed, and which at times had been
rather peculiar, took to crowing loudly and often.
To spare the nerves of the household, which were
being tried by many other strange signs, my father
forthwith shot this champion of hens' rights. On
being opened, her liver was found to be three or
four times as large as it ought to have been — quite
white and hard, and covered with little white hard
pustules. Otherwise she seemed in capital health,
and nothing went wrong with our groom who ate
her. About a week after my little brother died,
and the negroes of the neighbourhood believed
more than ever in their fancy. The " other signs "
I mentioned were the howling of a strange dog at
our door (we lived in the country at some distance
from any other houses) ; the drumming of a drummer-
cockroach (our death-watch) near the head of the
bed where the child lay, every night at the same
ho^^r, and, strange to say, we never could discover
the offender. Lastly, the screeching of the " Jum-
bee-bird " (a very small owl) as it flew over our
roof in the night. One of these " ghost-birds," at
last, flew in through an open window at midnight,
and, alighting on the tester of the bed where the
little child was dying, gave its most hideous
screech. One can smile at the fancy now, but the
occurrence produced an effect at the time, which
none of those who were watching will ever forget.
Whilst on the subject of negro superstitions, I
may add that they consider it a terrible misfortune
to kill one of these "jumbee," or ghost-birds. To
keep pigeons is sure to bring bad luck, and so on;
but these fancies, though many are very curious,,
are too numerous to be catalogued here. One more
strange corroboration. We wished to have a ceiba,
or silk-cotton tree, cut down, for it threatened to
destroy a bridge by the falling of its branches, the
wood being extremely brittle. No nigger would
do it, for the tree was, par excellence, the "jumbee "
tree. At last a sugar-planter of the district sent
some of his coolies to do it. While the work was
being done, a sudden thunder-storm came on. The
only houses hurt were those on this planter's estate,,
and the only people his coolies.
H. COTJRTHOPE BOWEN.
GEORGE I. AT LYDD (5th S. i. 144, 215.) — MR.
EDWARD SOLLY observes — "It would be interesting
to know if any details are preserved of his, Geo. I.,
three days' sojourn at Rye." The following extract
from the principal history of Bye will supply what
is known : —
" We had occasion to regret, when we spoke of the
visit of Queen Elizabeth to Rye, that the records of the
Corporation gave no direct particulars of the fact, and
we have to repeat this regret with respect to those of
Charles II. in 1673, of George I. in 1725, and of George II.
in 1736.
" The visit of George I. was accidental, the ship in
which he embarked having been driven into the haven
from stress of weather. His Majesty landed and wa8
entertained while on shore by James Lamb, Esq., who
was then mayor of the town." — Holloway's History and
Antiquities of the Ancient Town, and Port of Rye,
London, J. R. Smith, 1847, p. 356.
It is added, that there are " traditionary reports"
of the visit of George II., who was entertained by
the same James Lamb, as mayor, and that " his
sitting-room and bed-room are still shown, the
latter of which, a lofty apartment wainscoted with
oak, goes to this day by the name of George the
Second's chamber."
The difference in the year may be attributable
to a confusion, by which January 1725-6 was
taken as January 1725 instead of 1726.
ED. MARSHALL.
BERE EEGIS CHURCH (4th" S. xii. 492 ; 5th S. i.
50, 117, 154, 176, 199, 231, 257.)— LORD LYT-
TELTON has, with great acuteness, opened up the
contorted " protoplast " oyster, and I would only
add a belief that it was intended to give more
definitely the age at death, namely, that Andr.
Loup was in his sixtieth year, " before that he had
passed through, by the space of a decade, .what
was left of the time of living assigned to the sons
of Adam." His active life appears to have been a
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busy one, embittered by religious differences and
obloquy; and there is, perhaps, a second reference
to this in " tabernaculis impietatis." It would
appear, also, that his father or decessor, perhaps
the Thomas Loop who died 16^- (the rest being
hidden by a pew, p. 154), was long lived, and that
pientissima Elizabetha, with Andrew, her husband,
only came into the paternal estate and its quiet
when he was " in extreme sefcatis progressu," when
of his ages he had reached old age. This quiet,
too, was broken in \ipon during the last three
years by fits of epilepsy. All these considerations
lead up to the thought, not simply of the Shortness
of life, but of its toil and troubles, and of the
shorter period of rest given to man on earth.
Hence I would suggest that, as there are other
errors, so devictus is a misreading for devectus.
That is, that there is in accord with the fashion of
the age a conceit on "patrimonium narcoticum,"
itself a conceited phrase, and a looking toward the
quieter and more enduring heritage. This rest
and heritage is, as seems to me, the leading thought
of the latter part of the epitaph ; it is, perhaps, seen
in the "voti fluminei memor," "wherein he was
made .... an inheritor of the kingdom of heaven":
there is a trace of it again in " nisi lacrymarum
reclusisset scriptura," and still more in Psalm
Ixxxiv. (q. v.) and its " Elegi accubarc."
STANS PUER AD MENSAM.
If quo means " where," it is the adverb, and
there is no equivalent for " under itfiich."
I did not intend to alter the collocation, but
merely put the words as they would come in con-
struing. I take it as a complex sentence — laborans
indicating continuous action, devictus and cxpiravit
its fatal termination. It is a categorical proposition ;
the words to expiravit forming the subject, and
that word the predicate and copula.
I beg pardon fo2 the mistake about tandem, but
LORD LYTTELTON'S meaning was not very clear.
EDMUND TEW, M.A.
MOSES OF CHORE^E (5th S. i. 49, 113, 179.)—
Faber, in his Bampton Lectures, Horm Mosaiccc,
supplies another tradition, vol. i. ch. v. 218 : —
" As for Nimrod, the first open apostate from the wor-
ship of the true God, and the daring leader of the rebel-
lious Cuthites, he is said by Syncellus to have perished
under the ruins of that immense fabric (the to\ver of
Babel). Undaunted by those marks of divine vengeance
which were so evidently displayed in the dispersion of
his followers, he still obstinately remained upon the spot,
when a violent wind overthrew the tower, which in its
fall crushed the tyrant to atoms.* The same account of
his death is given by Cedrenus,f and it is far from being
improbable, although no mention is made of it in the
page of Scripture."
"With reference to the same tradition, Moses
Choronensis subjoins : —
* Syncell., Chronog., p. 42.
f Cedren., Comp. 'Hist., p. 11.
" Haec autem narratio jam quiescat, neque enira
plenam atque integram historiam conscribere statuimus,
sed nostra tantum primordia aperire, priscosque pro-
genitores declarare. Ex eodem igitur volumine tnu-
meremus Japetosthem, Merodum, Sirathum, Thaclathum,
qui sunt Japhethur, Gomerus, Thiras, Thorgomus ; post
quern idsm Scriptor chronicus numerare pergit Haicum,
Armenacum aliosque eo, quo supra percensuimus, ordine.5'
The editor corroborates this tradition by refer-
ences, to Josephus, Antiq., lib. iv. p. 16, edit.
Huds. ; Alexander Polyhistor. ap. Syncell., p. 44 :
vid. Orac. Sibyll. ap. Gallseum, p. 336 ; et Euseb.,
Prccp. Evang., ix. 15, Abydenus, &c.
The text of Moses Choronensis, which, of course,
is in the British Museum as well as in the
Bodleian, is in Armenian and Latin.
BlBLIOTHECAR. CHETHAM.
MEDIEVAL WINES (5th S. i. 107, 193, 213.)—
HERMENTRUDE is right in stating that clary wine
is " made from the clary flower," but wrong in
another particular.
There are two clurys according to Withering —
1. " Salvia pratensis, meadow sage or clary," de-
scribed as " a beautiful plant about three feet high,
with large purple flowers," &c., " rare." 2. " Salvia,
verbenaca, wild sage or clary ; from one to two
feet high ; flower small, purple, not uncommon."
The same authority, and there is none more
accurate, gives "Primula veris," " Cowslip-Paigle,"
The cowslip is popularly called " paigle " in Hunt-
ingdonshire, Caiubridgeshire, Essex, and elsewhere.
With regard to the wine clary, I recollect when
a boy of nine or ten years old, riding with my
father to call upon old Dr. Hughes, formerly pre-
ceptor to George IV., at Uffington, under the
White Horse hill, in Berkshire, the grandfather
of Mr. Thomas Hughes, late M.P. for Frome,
when the old gentleman produced, for my special
benefit, a bottle of clary wine. It was of a light
straw colour, and very delicate but peculiar flavour.
My father liked it so much, that the Doctor gave him
a packet of seed, which was sown in our garden at
Letcombe Bassett, also on the edge of the " Vale
of White Horse," and a cask of the wine made
from it in the following year. I remember the
plant and flower well, and the place in the Eectory
garden in which it grew, and I have no doubt that
it was the " Salvia vc.rbe.naca " of Withering, not
" S. pratensis." HERBERT KANDOLPH.
Sidmouth.
HERMENTRUDE is quite right in regard to clary
wine, for it is, as she observes, not claret, but a
British wine made from the clary flower. I cer-
tainly never drank the beverage except at one
place during my life, and that was at a country
vicarage near Bedford.
JOHN PICKFORD, M.A.
Newbourne .Rectory, Woodbridge.
SWALE FAMILY (5th S. i. 188, 253.)— I am much
obliged to those of your correspondents who have
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replied privately and in your columns to my query
respecting this family. It seems to be quite
capable of proof that Robert Swale, M.D., Padua,
1665, was fourth son of Sir Solomon, that he
married Isabell Mitchell, and left two sons, Eobert
and William. It is among the descendants of one
of these two sons that the heir to the baronetcy is
to be found. I should be obliged, if any of your
readers should happen to meet with a register in
London, or elsewhere, of the marriage of either of
them after 1680 and probably before 1720, if he
would let me know of it. The elder son, Robert,
is said to have been born 1662, to have married
Mary, daughter of John Luinley of North Allerton,
co. York (there is no record of the marriage having
taken place there), and to have died 1710, leaving
issue one son, John.
JOHN H. CHAPMAN", M.A.
Harewood, Leeds.
The following extract from Longstaffe's Bicli-
mondshire, may interest correspondents who have
written concerning this family : —
" The last of the Swales described himself as ' Sir
Solomon Swale, bart., of Swale Hall, in Swaledale, by
the river Swale.' A retired clerk in the Exchequer office
found out that the Swales held their chief estates by a
lease from the Grown, which they had neglected to renew.
He procured a grant of it to himself, and after many
lawsuits, the Baronet died in the Fleet Prison of a broken
heart in 1733, but his adversary had become felo de se."
—P. 39.
JOHN PICKFORD, M.A.
Newbourne Rectory, Woodbriclge.
A NEGRO ETONIAN (5th S. i. 149, 215.) — I can-
not find Mr. Elliott in the Eton school lists down
to 1860. NUMMUS.
REV. STEPHEN CLARKE (5th S. i. 208, 255.)—
Sermons published in London, 1727. See Darling's
Cyclopaedia for details. OWLET.
MILITARY TOPOGRAPHY (4th S. xii. 110, 156,
257.)— J. B. will find plans of most of the battles
and sieges he mentions in "Des GrossenFeld-Herrns
Eugenii, Herzogs von Savoyen, Kayserl. und des
Beichs General-Lieutenants, Heldentkaten biss auf
Dessen seel. Absterben. Niirnberg, bey Christoph
Riegel unter der Vesten, 1739," in six dumpy fcap.
volumes. My (imperfect) copy contains also a
complete list of all the books, plans, and pamphlets,
treating of the life and military career of Prince
Eugene, published up to the appearance of the
above work. C. A. FEDERER.
Bradford.
THE MAGPIE (4th S. xii. 327 ; 5th S. i. 38.)—
I was out the other day with three educated ladies
who thought it right to bow respectfully to every
one we met, and were evidently put about by the
number we came across in the course of our ride,
as if it boded no good for them. GAULTIER.
THE IRISH PEERAGE (5th S. i. 144, 218.)— Has
MR. WARREN, in considering the bearing of the
Irish Union Act upon Peerages which have been
merged, taken into account the possibility of these
Peerages again becoming separate 1 W. M.
Edinburgh.
" HOW THEY BROUGHT THE GOOD NEWS FROM
GHENT TO Aix " (5th S. i. 71, 174.) — I have seen
somewhere (I forget where), very lately, a state-
ment that Browning composed this while riding at
a gallop ; and I am inclined to believe the state-
ment. - JOHN ADDIS.
NOTES ON BOOKS, &c.
Paradoxes and Puzzles, Historical, Judicial, and
Literary. By John Paget, Barrister-at-Law. (Black-
wood & Sons.)
SOMETHING more than a dozen years have elapsed since
Mr. Paget published The JVeiv " Examen." The accom-
plished author, after having received Macaulay in all
good faith as an oracle in history, began to doubt, next
to sift evidence for himself, and, finally, to show irre-
futable reasons for concluding that Macaulay had taken
for truth Tory slanders against the great Marlborough,
that he had come to wrong conclusions as to Penn
and Dundee, and that his verdict on the Massacre
of Glencoe was as little trustworthy as his views on
the Scottish Highlands. This work was violently and
virulently attacked in the Edinburgh Review. Mr.
Paget, after a dozen years of examination of his own
work, finds no reason to alter a single statement, and
dismisses his reviewer with perfectly courteous com-
miseration. The second edition of The New " Examen "
occupies a couple of hundred pages of this interesting
volume, every page of which bears good evidence of the
writer's critical powers, and of his impartial judgment
eloquently expressed. The second portion, under the
head of " Vindications," are reprints of articles in BlacTc-
u-ood, which have, from time to time, excited much
attention. The subjects are "Nelson and Caracciolo,"
"Lady Hamilton," <:The Wigtown Martyrs," " Recollec-
tions of Lord Byron," and " Lord Byron and his Calum-
niators." The general heading, " Vindications," suffi-
ciently explains the object of these articles. They are
all in good taste, and two of them are especially vigorous
and successful — the defence of Lady Hamilton, and that
in which the writer stamps out the calumny against Byr^n
contained in Macmilldn's Magazine, for which Mrs.
Stowe will for ever lie under the gravest reproach.
Five chapters follow, entitled "Judicial Puzzles," in
which Mr. Paget takes us through the disputed cases of
" Elizabeth Canning," " The Campden Wonder," " The
Annesley Case," "Eliza Penning," and "Spenser Cowper's
Case." With the most sincere respect for Mr. Paget's
power of looking at a question in all its bearings,
and of seeing in which direction lies the truth, — power
which is a characteristic quality, among other good
qualities of the author, — we cannot agree with Mr.
Paget's conclusion that Eliza Fenning was guilty of the
murder laid to her charge. At all events, there was a
doubt, and the unhappy girl might have been allowed
the benefit of it. Four " Essays o» Art " bring this
very attractive volume to a close. They are entitled
"Ruskin's Elements of Drawing," "A Day at Antwerp"
(Rubens and Ruskin), " George Cruikshank," and " John
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Leech." We need not say that these, too, are reprints
from Blackwood, as the articles dealing with Mr.
Kuskin are sure to be in every reader's memory. They
show how inexorably severe, we had almost said cruel, a
qualified critic may be, without departing a hair's-breadth
from gentlemanlike feeling and utterance. We commend
Mr. Paget's work to the wide world of readers ; there is
in it the essence of scores of volumes, and no book has
appeared of late in which history has been made so
singularly-attractive as in this volume of Paradoxes and
Puzzles.
Modern Parish Churches : their Plan, Design, and Fur-
niture. By J. T. Micklethwaite, F.S.A., Architect.
(H. S. King & Co.)
WHETHER the blows dealt out, on modern architecture,
so lustily and so freely by the now celebrated article in
the Quarterly were deserved or not, there can be no
question that one great good has been the result — a freer
and juster handling of the art as at present practised.
Few are they who can assert that the architecture of
the present day is in at all the satisfactory state that
could be desired, and fewer still are they who are unable
to point out countless causes for that state. As having had
something to do with the matter, one would not be very
beside the mark in referring to the restoration mania,
which, sweeping over the land, naturally produced a band
of men bound to follow in the old groove, and, therefore,
not likely to learn to adapt their profession to nineteenth-
century requirements. This mania, after its lengthened
career, it may be hoped now has somewhat subsided, for
enter what cathedral we will that has not escaped the
restorer's hand, how much of that mystery, of which Mr.
Micklethwaite speaks so happily, has not been sacrificed
to the uninterrupted vista theory that has cleared away
screens and other work which go so far to make up the
picturesqueness of an interior. As illustrative of this
particular point, the recent so-called restoration of the
fine old church at Bampton, in Oxfordshire, may be cited.
This church was originally divided into two distinct
places of worship ; but the uninterrupted vista must be
obtained, and at any sacrifice, however absurd. So, as
there were two, if not more, levels and a very low chancel
arch, the only thing to be done was to reduce the level
of the nave and its side porches, even though this result
attended the operation, viz., that now the bases of
the nave columns are disclosed to an inordinate depth,
and only men twelve feet high can sit on the stone
benches in the porches ! To the book, however, beforp
us : any one about to build a church we strongly recom-
mend to study it carefully, for if its views are such that
we cannot always accept, are sometimes expressed rather
too dogmatically, yet they generally rest on a foundation
of common sense. In the chapter " Of the Pulpit," Mr.
Micklethwaite says that "its position should, of course,
be that from which the preacher can be best heard . . .
The position may be determined by actual experiment."
If this advice were acted on, would not, as a rule, the
proper position be under a 'bay, in the centre of the nave,
with the preacher facing due south 1 I Of course such an
arrangement would involve the facing north and south
of the congregation between the pulpit and the chancel.
History of the Christian Church, from the Apostolic Age
to the Reformation. By James C. Robertson, Canon
of Canterbury. Vol. II. (Murray.)
THE second volume of this elegant and cheap edition of
Canon Robertson's History of the Church tells that
eventful story, from the year 313 to 718. Among the
most brilliant passages in the book is the sketch of
Jerome, to whote faults the Rev. Canon is by no means
blind. The charity of the saint was defective when he
built a hospital only for believers ; and there was not
much reverence in his assertion that " the mother who
gives up her daughter to celibacy becomes the mother-
in-law of God ! " Neither was there much wit, when,
being charged with disparaging marriage, Jerome re-
plied " that he praised it, inasmuch as marriage gave
birth to virgins."
The Pictorial Dictionary of the Bible. New Edition,
with Maps and Engravings, and an Introductory
Sketch of Evangelical Theology. By the Rev. J. A.
Wylie, LL.D., of the Free Church of Scotland. Parts
I., II., III., IV. (M'Phun & Son.)
THIS excellent Dictionary cannot fail to commend itself
to all interested in the study of the Bible ; moreover, its
cheapness enables those to have at hand a ready book of
reference whose means are not sufficient to secure for
them the like but costlier works.
WE have received the New Quarterly Magazine (Ward,
Lock &, Tyler), in which there is an admirable paper on
Blake as poet, artist, and mystic. In this able article, by
the editor, we have a curious illustration of how bio-
graphers deal with names. Gilchrist, speaking of Blake's
wife, whose maiden name, he says, was Bowcher, suggests
that she was descended from those who bore "the grand
historic name of Bourchier." The editor tells us that
where the bride should have signed the register the
entry stands : — "Catharine Butcher, her mark!" — The
Popular Science Review (Hardwicke) has, among many
well-written contributions, one on the Field Telegraph,
by Mr. A. H. Atteridge, in which is recorded the fact
that, in 1802, two artisans of Poictiers, Alexandre and
Beauvais, arrived in Paris with their invention of a
rudimentary form of the electric telegraph. The First
Consul was too busy to attend to them ! The field tele-
graph was first used by our army in the Crimea — The
Twelfth Part of Thornbtiry's Old and New London
(Cassell & Co.). This is the best number that has yet
appeared. There is in it an account of the tavern fight
in which the actor Quin killed his assistant, a fellow
actor, Bowen. Mr. Thornbury says Quin was tried and
honourably acquitted. The exact truth is that the
coroner's inquest, returned a verdict of "Se. defendendo,"
but that the Old Bailey jury found Quin " guilty of man-
slaughter," and Mr. Quin the player was burnt in the
hand and discharged. It was probably a cold iron that
was employed, for Quin was immediately acting again.
MB. CAKLYLE. — If the following extract from the
Birmingham Book Catalogue of Mr. William Brough
does not surprise most people, it will probably surprise
Mr. Carlyle himself, whose very brains are here put
up for sale, without consent asked. " Unpublished
Manuscript Lectures on Literature, by Mr. T. Carlyle.
Report of a Course of XII. Lectures on the History of
Literature, or the successive periods of European Culture,
delivered in London in 1S38, and not published, 313
pages, 4to. neatly and legibly written, unbound, 51. 5s.
Lecture 1. — Literature in general ; Language, Religion,
Tradition, Races, The Greeks, Mythologies, Origin of
Gods, &c. 2.— Homer, The Heroic Ages. 3. — The
Romans, End of Paganism. 4.— Middle Ages, Chris-
tianity, Faith, Inventions, Pious Foundations, The
Crusades, &c. 5.— Dante, The Italians, Catholicism,
Purgatory. 6. — The Spaniards, Chivalry, Cervantes,
Lopez, Calderon, Protestantism, The Dutch War. 7. —
The Germans, Reformation, Luther, Erasmus, &c. 8. —
The English, their origin, work, destiny, Elizabethan
Era, Shakespeare, Knox, Milton, Beginning of Scepticism.
9. — Not Reported. 10. — Eighteenth Century in England,
Johnson, David Hume. 11. — Consummation of Scep-
ticism, Wertherism, The French Revolution. 12. — Modern
German Literature, Goethe and his Works."
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[5:h S. I. APRIL 11, '74.
THE LATE MR. FERNIE. — It is with regret that we
record the decease of a correspondent of "IST. & Q.," MR.
T. P. FERKIE, of Kimbolton. MR. FERNIE devoted, of
late years, as much spare time as the calls of his pro-
fession allowed to the investigation of the history of his
native place ; and he has left behind him very considerable
collections relating to the town and castle of Kimbolton.
He enjoyed, by the permission of the Duke of Manchester,
free access to the records and historical papers deposited
at the castle ; and he availed himself of these oppor-
tunities with great diligence for many years, not, how-
ever, confining his researches to local sources, but ex-
tending them in many directions, as the pages of " N. & Q."
frequently testified. A good history of Kimbolton would
be of no ordinary value and interest ; but we can only
express our concern that the publication of such a work
cannot be superintended by him by whose labours it has
been so largely promoted. MR. FERNIE died at Kim-
bolton (where he had practised as a surgeon for upwards
of forty years) on the 7th of last month, his end having,
it is feared, been hastened by his varied and unceasing
labours. MR. FERNIE belonged to the old Fifeshire
family of Ferney, of Wester Ferney.
GOOD FRIDAY. — On this day last week the Portuguese
and South American vessels in the London Docks ob-
served their annual custom of flogging Judas Iscariot.
" A crowd, principally composed of sailors from the
neighbouring ships, witnessed the ceremony. At daybreak
a block of wood, roughly carved to imitate the Betrayer,
and clothed in an ordinary sailor's suit, with a red worsted
cap on its head, was hoisted by a rope round its neck
into the fore-rigging ; the crews of the various vessels
then went to chapel, and on their return about 11 a.m.
the figure was lowered from the rigging and cast into the
dock and ducked three times. It was then hoisted on
board, and after being kicked round the deck was lashed
to the capstan. The crew, who had worked themselves
into a state of frantic excitement, then with knotted
ropes lashed the effigy till every vestige of clothing had
been cut to tatters. During this process the ship bell
kept up an incessant clang, and the captains of the ships
served out grog to the men. Those not engaged in the
flogging kept up a sort of rude chant intermixed with
denunciations of the Betrayer. The ceremony ended
•with the burning of the effigy; amid the jeers of the
crowd." — Times.
SEALS OF OLIVER CROMWELL. — Mr. H. W. Henfrey,
14, Park Street, Westminster, writes : — " I wish to give
as complete an account as possible of the Protector's
seals in my ' Numismata Cromwelliana ; or, Hie Medallic
History of Oliver Cromwell, illustrated by all his Coins,
Medals, and Seals,' now in course of publication ; and I
shall, therefore, feel grateful if any readers who possess
documents bearing seals of the Protectorate period,
1653- 59. or any separate impressions of Cromwellian seals,
will kindly communicate with me as soon as possible."
MESSRS. CHUBB & SON, 57, St. Paul's Churchyard, say,
in reference to the Lochleven keys — " We note MR
HARPER'S letter in your paper of the 28th March, anc
should be much obliged to him if he would lend us the copies
of the correspondence about these keys that he refers to,
We have had much correspondence about these keys
and from all we can find out, we certainly think ours are
the real keys. We should be glad to show them to any
body who would like to come here."
to
ELLESPIE.— The Plantagenet statues, effigies of king
of England, and their consorts, had long lain neglectei
in a half-ruined vault at Fontevrault, when the lat
Smperor of the French courteously offered them as a
ift to England and the Queen. The inhabitants of
Tontevrault, and many from other places, protested
gainst the right assumed by the Emperor to dispose of
hose monumental remains. To relieve him from all
mbarrassment, the Imperial offer, which had been ac-
epted, was taken as having never been made, and the
ffigies in question remain at Fontevrault.
H. C. B. — For the extant fragments of Ennius, consult
Jrown's Hist. Rom. Classical Literature and Dr. W.
Smith's Classical Did.
' Ah ! deary me ! what needles ! well really I must say
All things are strangely altered (for the worse too) since
my day,"
s from " Mrs. Harris's Soliloquy while Threading her
Needle," by Lady Dufferin, Drawing- Room Scrap-Book,
.847.
" Freut euch des Lebens,
AVeil noch das Liimpchen gliiht,"
he original of "Life let us cherish," is to be found in
almost every collection of German songs.
AURIGNY'S ISLE (5th S. i. 268.)— We have to thank
numerous correspondents for replies to the above query.
Aurigny is the French name for Alderney. The name
' Riduna," in the Itinerary of Antoninus, is supposed to
apply to Alderney. Dr. Latham, in The Channel Islands,
;oes, however, no farther than to say, " It is not im-
)ossible that Riduna is Aurigny or Alderney."
DEBRETT, JUN.— The young Lord Rossmore, who lately
died, the result of a fall in the hunting field, was only
distantly connected with the first lord. In 1796, General
Robert Cuningham was created Baron Rossmore, with
remainder, in default of male issue, to the issue male of
ais wife's sister. Of this latter issue was the second lord,
Warner Westenra (from whom the lately deceased lord
was descended), a stranger ia blood to the first peer.
M. L. has been puzzled by hearing a reference to the
"judicial Hooker." The speaker carefully added,
"judicial, not judicious." Who first applied the latter
ipithet, and which is the more correct]
P. S. CAREY.— The great-great-nephew of Sir Alexander
Schomberg is desirous of entering into a correspondence
with you relative to your query which appeared in
"N. &Q.," May 14th, 1864.
T. W. W. asks for the name of the plant which, having
a red spot on its leaves, is said to have been stained with
blood at the Crucifixion.
MESSRS. EDWARDS & JONES.-J'-A combination of several
letters, however ingenious, cannot correctly be called a
monogram.
COUSIN asks who are the best authorities on the objec-
tions to consanguineous marriages.
TRIPLE F.— Many thanks. "Nil est quod magis
audiam libenter."
T, W. WEBB.— "A merry heart," &c. Winter's Tale,
Act iv. sc. 2.
R. N. J.—" The Coliseum " shortly.
NOTICE.
Editorial Communications should be addressed to " The
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We beg leave to state that we decline to return com-
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to this rule we can make no exception.
To all communications should be affixed the name and
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LONDON, SATURDAY, APRIL 18, 1874.
CONTENTS.— N° 16.
NOTES :— On the Elective and Deposing Power of Parliament,
No. IV., Henry VIL, 301— Election of Representative Peers
for Scotland : Eglinton Peerage, 302— Shakspeariana, 303 —
—Why Adam means North, South, East, and West— Edw.
Windsor, 305— Sir Robert Wilson's " Note-Book "— Nevil—
Senseless Laughter — Wonderful Automata— Monumental In-
scription, Almondsbury, 308.
QUERIES : — Copper-plate Engraving — Fasting Communion in
the Church of England— The Archbishop of Philippoli, 1701
— Bolingbroke's Political Tracts, 307— Percy, the Trunk-
maker — Old Charters—" Druid" — Knights at the Coronation
of the Enaperor Henry VII. — Dissecting Men Alive —
Greek Enclitics — Swans— " The Testament of the Twelve
Patriarchs "—Oxford University Magazine, 1834 — Walcot of
Walcot — The Underwoods of Staffordshire — Whately's
"Rhetoric," 308— Tolling Bells— M.P.'s for Woodstock, 309.
REPLIES :— Archibald Hamilton Rowan, 309 — Episcopal
Titles, 310— The Licence assumed by Lawyers— Field Lore :
Carr, &c., 311— Bull-Baiting— The "Christian Year"— King
James I. of England, 312— Extraordinary Birth of Triplets-
Rowland's anticipated by Luther, 313 — " The Death of
Nelson" — Bp. Beveridge's Simile of "Paper and Packthread "
— John de Tan tone — "My or. pro pane micando" — Bar
Sinister— John Tobin, 314— Heraldic— The Life of Paul Sarpi
— Penn Pedigree — John Stuart Mill — Mortimer's " History
of England," 315 — Thomas Frye— Kennedy Family — Fuller's
"PisgahSight" — Cowper : Trooper — Marmite— The Acacia in
Freemasonry — The Gothic Florin — American Worthies, 316
— " Le Caffe ou L'Ecossaise " — Owen Glendwr— Sheriffs of
Worcestershire — "Ringleader" — "That beats Akebo" —
" Nor " for " Than " — Dr. Isaac Barrow, Master of Trinity,
317 — Museums and Natural History Societies — Sir Thomas
ft Strangeways— "Mistal"— "Embossed"— "Sele": "Wham,"
318.
Notes on Books, &c.
ON THE ELECTIVE AND DEPOSING POWER
OF PARLIAMENT.
No. IV.— HENRY. VIL
When we have come to the case of Henry VII.
the subject becomes one of great interest, on
account of its close resemblance to that of Wil-
liam III., since each of them married the person
who at the time, and rebus sic stantibus, was the
true heir to the throne ; and through both of those
persons the present royal family derive an heredi-
tary title to the throne. For they have such a title
quite independent of any Parliamentary title, and
it is derived from Elizabeth of Bohemia, daughter
of James I., who, as Parliament solemnly declared,
derived an hereditary title from Elizabeth of York,
who represented the hereditary title of the House
of York, and for that reason was married by
Henry VII., in order that he might acquire and
transmit that title to their descendants, as he did.
Hence it is of importance to understand the title
of the House of York, who, as Sir James Mackin-
tosh truly said, represented the doctrine of in-
defeasible hereditary right, though he was wrong
in imagining that this meant Divine right ; whereas,
in truth, it was merely the result of English law.
And hence, also, it is necessary rightly to under-
stand the ground of Henry VII.'s right. He,
as Sir T. More truly states, obtained the crown
only on condition of his marrying Elizabeth of
York, and so gaining her hereditary title. This
was an arrangement entered into, and sanctioned
by oath, before he made his attempt ; and he only
won the Battle of Bosworth by the aid of the
Yorkists. Every one knows it was the secession
of Stanley which turned the scale; and his adherents
were all Yorkists, who only seceded in consequence
of the arrangement. Though, therefore, Henry
gained the crown by force of arms, he did not gain
it, in the proper sense of the term, by conquest,
for he did not gain it by his own arms, nor by the
mere assertion of force of arms. For he set up
hereditary right, and he succeeded only in the
name of one who had a better hereditary right
than he had himself. He himself had some
hereditary title to the throne, though that of the
House of York was considered as the better title,
because more strictly in accordance with the rules
of hereditary succession. This subject has never
been understood or explained, and yet it is essential
in order to understand the descent of the crown.
Both York and Lancaster represented hereditary
right, and the only question was which of them
had the better right. Henry represented Lancaster,
and Elizabeth the other, and they united their
titles. This has never been understood. Not one
of our historians gives all the dates and facts on
this subject ; some give one and some another —
none give all. It may be added that, none of them
being lawyers, they have failed to understand the
legal effect of the facts, the true legal state of the
question. Thus Sir James Mackintosh seems to
take it as clear that Henry could have no here-
ditary right to the throne, even assuming the claim
of the House of Lancaster to be right, as his
ancestor, the son of John of Gaunt, was not born
in wedlock, and the patent of Eichard legitimating
the issue contained, he says, an exception of the
right to inherit the crown. He is quite in error:
the patent contained no such exception ; and by
the ecclesiastical law the marriage of John of
Gaunt with Catharine Swinford of itself legiti-
mated the previous issue by him. Henry, there-
fore, was undoubtedly heir of John of Gaunt, the
third son of Edward III., the House of York
claiming through Lionel, the second son. Sir
James falls into another error as to the other issue
of John of Gaunt, for they were excluded as born
abroad, not being sons of a king of England ; and
he falls into another error in supposing that the
issue of the Duke of Clarence, the brother of
Edward IV., could possibly compete with Elizabeth,
Edward's daughter, for the crown, forgetting that
the issue of an elder brother must be exhausted
before the issue of a younger could succeed. This
was the strength of the claim of the House of
York, the issue of the second son of Edward III.,
the House of Lancaster claiming as the issue of
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the third. Hence both Henry and Elizabeth were
in the line of inheritance, but Elizabeth was
certainly the true heir. Now, Henry asserted his
own right and hers by force of arms, and suc-
ceeded only by the assistance of those who asserted
hers. Hence he did not gain the crown by conquest,
which excludes any other title but force of arms,
and most certainly he did not acquire the crown
by Parliamentary title ; for he acquired it before
Parliament was called, and he called it as a king.
It is incredible, therefore, how writers like Earl
Eussell and Mr. Freeman can persist in represent-
ing that Henry acquired the crown by a Parlia-
mentary title. This is quite opposed to the
opinions of our best historians, Mackintosh and
Lingard ; and, what is more important, it is op-
posed to undoubted facts and dates, and the
records of the Bolls of Parliament ; the dates alone
disprove the entire theory. Yet, in this in-
stance, as in so many others, dates are vital. In
August 1485, Henry, on his entry into London,
solemnly, before the Lord Mayor and Council, re-
peated his former oath to marry Elizabeth of York.
On the 30th October he was crowned ; on the 17th
November he called a Parliament, which was no
" Parliament " at all unless he was already king,
and he had been already, for a month, a "crowned
and anointed " king. How came he to be king ?
Clearly, not by any Parliamentary title, for he was
crowned and acknowledged, and acted as king,
before Parliament was called ; and he could have
called the Parliament only as king. He obtained
the crown, it is obvious, by force of arms, but by
and on the behalf of the true heir to the croTtn,
whom he had sworn to marry ; so that he did not
acquire it really by conquest, since it was subject
to the right of the true heir ; and hence, when
Parliament settled the crown on "him and the
issue of his body," meaning his issue by Elizabeth,
the true heir, the judges advised that there could
be no right by conquest (Year-Book, 1 Henry VII.,
25). Why? Because he claimed by right. And what
right did he claim? Hereditary right — his own
and his intended wife's. He, of course, asserted
his own, but the nation preferred hers. Lord
Bacon declares that the nation had become con-
vinced that the House of York had the better title;
and contemporary authority — in the most authentic
form, the entries on the Eolls of Parliament —
attests it. For we find that Parliament desired
the king to take to wife the Princess Elizabeth,
Avhich marriage they hoped would be blessed with
a progeny "of the line of kings" — de stirpe regum
(Eot. Parl. vi. 278). This must have meant by
her line, for she only was the child of a king, and
she also was in the line of descent from kings.
Thus the king was compelled to marry the true
heir to the crown, and the act of settlement had
carefully limited its descent to his issue, that is
his issue by her. It had not professed to confer
any title to the crown upon him, for he had the
crown already ; and he had no title to it but by
his marriage with her ; and she, on the other hand,
had already an hereditary title, which did not re-
quire to be recognized or confirmed. All that the
act declared, therefore, was that the inheritance to
the crown should remain in him and the heirs of
his body, i. e., his heirs by her, to whom he was
already solemnly contracted. This did not mean
that her right to the throne should remain, for of
course it would, but that it should be inheritable
by his issue by her, and by his issue alone. The
act, so far from giving him any right, rather
operated to limit it, or rather to prevent his ac-
quiring or exercising any right at all, beyond the
right for life, which, according to feudal notions^
he acquired by his marriage with her. For if he
had, or if it had conferred, any further right, it
would have gone to his heirs general ; whereas the
act carefully limited the crown to his issue, and
virtually, as he was about to be married to Eliza-
beth, it meant his issue by her. No act, however,
was necessary to secure the descent of the crown
to that issue, and it could only have been required
or intended to prevent its descent to any other
line. In effect, its object was not to give Henry a
right, but to provide that the right should descend
to the issue of Elizabeth, and to prevent his having
any right to transmit it to any one else. This was
well understood a century later, when that issue,
in the person of James I., succeeded to the throne,
with a solemn recognition by Parliament of his
hereditary right, and a right, it is expressly stated,
derived not merely from Henry (though as he died
de facto king of England, and the crown had
descended for several generations in his line, that
might per se have been sufficient), but from Eliza-
beth of York, as the daughter and heirof Edward IV.,
the rightful king of England. So far, therefore,
from their being any pretence for representing that
Henry had a " Parliamentary " title to the throne,
the truth is entirely the contrary, and it is clear
that all that Parliament did was to recognize and
secure the hereditary title to the throne.
W. F. F.-
(To be continued.}
ELECTION OP REPRESENTATIVE PEERS FOR
SCOTLAND : EGLINTON PEERAGE.
At the Election of Representative Peers for
Scotland, held at Holyrood House, on 18th Feb-
ruary, 1874, the Lord Clerk Register stated that
he had received a Signed List from William
Stephen John Fulton (claiming to be Earl of
Eglinton), which it was quite clear to his Lordship
he could not receive, because by the Act 10th and
llth Viet. cap. 52, sec. 4, it was expressly declared
that whenever a Peer or Peeress had established
his or her right to a Peerage no other Claimant
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303
should be allowed to vote, or interfere at an
Election, until his vote had been sanctioned by
the House of Peers, and an intimation of that fact
sent to him, the Lord Clerk Register. After some
remarks by the Duke of Buccleuch, who concurred
in the views expressed by the Lord Clerk Register,
the Signed List was rejected accordingly. No vote
was tendered in respect of the Earldom of Eglinton
ether than that by Mr. Fulton.
The section of the Act of Parliament upon which
the Lord Clerk Register proceeded is in these
terms : —
" And be it enacted, That whenever any Peer or Peeress
shall have established his or her Right to any Peerage,
or his Right to Tote in respect of any Peerage, and the
same shall have been notified to the Lord Clerk Register
by Order of the House of Lord?, the said Lord Clerk
Register or Clerks of Session shall not during the Life of
such Peer or Peeress allow any other Person claiming
to be entitled to the same Peerage to take Part in any
such Election, nor shall it be lawful for the said Lord
Clerk Register or Clerks of Session to receive and count
the Vote of any such other person till otherwise directed
foy the House of Lords."
There is not now in life, and there was not in
life at the date of the Election, any Peer or Peeress
the establishment of whose right to the Peerage of
Eglinton had been notified to the Lord Clerk
Register by order of the House of Lords ; and
therefore it humbly appears to me that the section
of the Act above quoted has no application to the
case. Apart from this, Mr. Fulton is, and was
on the day of the Election, the only person
alive who ever tendered a vote as Earl of Eglinton.
From the time of the Union until within a com-
paratively recent date, successive Earls of Eg-
linton have voted at Elections, and several of
them have sat in the House of Lords as Repre-
sentative Peers, all, so far as I am aware, without
challenge. Under the Resolution of the House, of
13th May,'1822, iL was not necessary that, upon the
decease of a Peer or Peeress of Scotland, his or her
son, grandson or other lineal descendant, or the
brother of such Peer, should make any formal
Claim to the Peerage before being admitted to
vote, it being only in the case of a remoter heir
that a Claim was necessary. That Resolution
having been rescinded on 25th July, 1862, there
would seem to be now no fixed rule as to who
shall, or shall not, be compelled to present a Claim.
In this state of matters no proceedings have taken
place before the House of Lords with regard to the
Eglinton Peerage which called for a notification
by the House to the Lord Clerk Register. But
still it is evident that upon the death of every
holder of the Dignity a question may arise as
to who is his successor ; for instance, the question
between two Claimants may be as to which of
them is his eldest lawful son. Therefore it is easily
understood why the Act of Parliament should only
protect from challenge the right of an individual
(and during that individual's own life) whose Claim
has been established before the House of Lords.
So long as there is no dispute, the son, grandson
or other lineal descendant, or the brother or other
person, simply votes as a matter of course. But the
moment a rival Claimant presents himself, I think
the case is altered, and must go before the House
of Lords. It may be that the Signed List tendered
by Mr. Fulton was liable to objection, but not, I
think, upon the ground stated. My own impression
is, that if it was ex facie regular it ought to have
been received, leaving it open to the Peers present
at the Election to protest in manner provided for
by the Act, and so the question would have come
under the notice of the House of Lords.
I have only to add that I know nothing of Mr.
Fulton, or of the merits of his case. I write upon
the point of procedure only. "W. M.
Edinburgh.
SHAKSPEARIANA.
NOTE ON A PASSAGE IN SHAKSPEARE. — In
" The Tragedie of Anthony and Cleopatra" act v.
sc. ii. 11. 86-88, Cleopatra says of Antony —
" For his Bounty,
There was no winter in 't. An Anthony it was,
That grew the more by reaping. "
This is the reading of the First Folio, 1623, in
which the tragedy, so far as is known, appeared
for the first time. The " Cambridge " editors
adopt Theobald's " emendation," " an autumn
'twas."
If "an Anthony it was" is not right, "an
autumn 'twas " is certainly wrong. It is too tame
for the intensely impassioned speech in which it
has beet introduced by the editors. Again, if
" autumn " could, by metonymy, be wrenched to
mean the crops of autumn, it could hardly be said
that an autumn grows the more by reaping. But
this reading of Theobald has been silently adopted
by all subsequent editors, without any considera-
tion of its tameness or of the resultant incongruity.
"An Anthony it was"; "it" stands, of course,
for "bounty." His bounty was an Anthony,
" that grew the more by reaping."
Now, could the " less Greek," which Ben Jonson
tells us Shakspeare possessed, have enabled him
to see in "Anthony" the word av&os? His
bounty had no winter in it ; it was a mead of
rennial luxuriance, affording & flowering pasturage
-ovofios), and " that grew the more by reap-
ing." HIRAM CORSON (From the Nation).
Cornell University, Ithaca, N.Y.
On this suggestion, Mr. James Spedding, the
editor of Bacon's Works, writes as follows : —
"I cannot understand Prof. Corson's objection to
' autumn.' In the cursive black-letter hand of the time
Autumn might easily be written so as to be hardly dis-
tinguishable from Antonie, and surely it makes better
sense and better poetry. So far from calling it ' tame,'
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I should instance it as one of the noblest, boldest, and
liveliest images in poetry. Keats said that poetry
' ought to surprise, by a fine excess.' This is exactly a
case of such ' fine excess.' ' An autumn that grew the
more by reaping ' — that, the more you took of its har-
vests, the more there remained to take — is surely as great
an image of 'bounty' as the mind in its most impas-
sioned state ever created; quite as sauch so, and yet
evidently from the same mint, as Juliet's —
' My bounty is as boundless as the sea,
My love as deep ; the more I give to thee,
The more I have ; for both are infinite.'
As for the difficulty of understanding by autumn the
crops of autumn, how is it more difficult than to under-
stand by ' winter ' the absence of crops ? And what are
we to come to 1 Instead of allowing Tennyson to say —
' To strip a hundred hollows bare of spring,'
we shall have to ask him to print 'sprigs ' for 'spring.'
As for the amount of Shakspeare's Greek, of which he
has left us no means of judging, the difficulty is to under-
stand how he could have had Greek enough to know
that avOof meant a flower, without knowing also that
Anthony could not mean a pasture of flowers ; and not
only could not really mean it, but could not, by any pro-
cess of association, legitimate or illegitimate, suggest the
image to an Englishman."
" MEASURE FOR MEASURE." — In Act i. sc. 1>
11. 6-7, the Cambridge editors rightly leave a gap of
two half lines in the departing Duke's speech to
Escalus, whom he is about to appoint one of the
justices of his city during his absence. This gap
I propose to fill up with the words " I add A
power as mighty " (or forceful), thus : —
" Dulce. Of government the properties to unfold,
Would seem in me to affect speech and discourse ;
Since I am put to know that your own science
Exceeds, in that, the lists of all advice
My strength can give you : then no more remains,
But that to your sufficiency [I add
A power as mighty] as your worth is able,
And let them work . . .
. . . . There is our commission,
From which we would not have you warp."
It is clear that as Escalus has sufficient knowledge
of law and government to judge and rule the
people, all he wants is pOAver to exercise these
qualities, to " let them work." This power, then,
is what alone remains for the Duke to add : and
he at once does add it, by handing Escalus his
commission. This commission is that of a "brother
justice" to Angelo (who, for a time, sits with
Escalus to try Mrs. Overdone) ; brother, though
Escalus is "puisne," Angelo "Chief"; Angelo
" Governor," Escalus "Deputy-Governor" : —
" Old Escalus,
Though first in question, is thy secondary."
For my epithet to power, "mighty" or "forceful,"
a better substitute will no doubt be found.
F. J. FURNIVALL.
SHAKSPEARE GENERALLY READ IN 1655. — The
Hectors ; or, the False Challenge, a comedy, was
published in 1656, and is stated on the title-page
to have " been written in the year MDCLV." This
statement is borne out by a passage in Act v. sc. 3
(I2 vers.), where a blacksmith dates his son's age,
now twenty-nine, from the year after " the last
great sicknesse which is some thirty yeares agoe."
This was the plague in London — the scene of the
play — in 1625, when the Parliament and Court
moved to Oxford, and when the deaths were said
to have reached 130,000, and 1625+30 gives 1655.
In Act iii. sc. 3 (H vers.) of this play, La-Gul, " a
gent, of a slender judgment, but of good means,"
being found out in a piece of braggadocio, is good-
humouredly ridiculed and advised to avoid the
designs on his purse and patrimony by leaving the
town, marrying, and settling himself in the country.
Then each in turn describes what he is to do : not
come up but at Easter term or so to buy his wife
a new gown; to leave subtle points of honour, and
learn the strange dialect of hawks and hounds ; to
have no inquisitiveness as to new fashions, but a
fine gaudy suit or two for market days and assize
week; instead of town gambling and tavern roaring
to keep to drinking matches of tubs of ale and
crown rubbers at bowls ; to play the good husband
and take to a nursery or hop-garden, so as to enter-
tain a lady visitor with a dish of fruit, and how he
himself did graft it, a cheaper entertainment than
a costly town banquet. And after all this comes :
"Know-well. — Upon a rainy day, or when you have
nought else to do, you may read Sir Waller Raleigh, Lord
Bacon's Natural History, the Holy Warre, and Brown's
Vulgar Errors. You may find, too, some stories in the
English Eusebius I Strype 1] and the Book of Martyrs, to-
hold discourse with the Parson on a Sunday dinner.
" Mrs. Love-wit. — Sometimes to your wife you may read
a piece of Shak-speare, Suckling, and Ben Jonson too, if
you can understand him.
" Know. — You may read the Scout and Weekly Intelli-
gence, and talk politickly after it. And if you get some
smattering in the Mathematicks. it would not be amisse,
the Art of dyalling, or to set your clock by a quadrant,
and Geography enough to measure your own land."
This enumeration of the stock books of a countiy
gentleman's library, and the pleasantly-given de-
scription of his general life, may excuse the length
of the quotation ; and if this evidence of Shakspeare's
popularity as a writer has been already noted, the
better informed reader will perhaps correct, yet
pardon me. B. NICHOLSON.
" IN SUCH A SCARRE."— (" All'-s Well that Ends
Well," Act iv. sc. 2.) — Mr. Halliwell, in his Archaic
Dictionary (7th ed., 1872), devotes nearly a column
to the discussion of the passage in which this
phrase occurs, and which he pronounces " difficult
of explanation." Containing, as it does, a word
now obsolete, and an allusion to an expedient not
generally known, it may well be so to modern
readers. After reviewing the text by the light of
the context, Mr. H. gives an explanation to which
I confess I should be compelled to apply his own
words on a previous one of Mr. Charles Knight's.
In offering the present, I will give first a literal
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interpretation of the words and allusion, and then
an explanation of Diana's application of them. The
proper understanding of the passage mainly depends
upon the meaning of the wordsecm-e, which Mr. H.
contends " must be interpreted a precipice" but
which I endeavoured to show, under "Soho
Square " (4th S. xii. 250), properly means a hollow,
chasm, or fissure. To be " in a scarre," metaphori-
cally, is accordingly equivalent to the phrase, still
current, of " being in a hole " or "hobble," or to
the well-known American one of " being in a fix."
What it practically is to be in a scarre, is aptly
illustrated by an accident, as described in the daily
journals of Jan. 1st, 1874: —
" SINGULAR ACCIDENT. — A fatal accident has occurred
near Whitby, in connexion with the Lealholm Hounds.
In Arncliffe Woods the fox bolted down a crevice fifteen
feet deep, followed by a terrier. Of course the fox and
dog were both unable to get out, the sides being perpen-
dicular. In attempting to cut them out, a piece of rock
gave way, by which occurrence one man was killed."
Now, if it had been a man who had fallen into
such a chasm, he would have been equally unable
to get out, without some other means than his feet
and hands. Shakspeare speaks of a man " in such
a scarre " making a " rope " to help himself out.
But supposing a man, who had fallen into such a
place when alone, to have provided himself with
some kind of rope, of what use would it be to him ?
This difficulty is satisfactorily disposed of by a
passage in Hall's Chronicle (4to. reprint, 1809),
p. 78:—
" He caused thassault to be cried againe : then euerye
man ranne to y" walles, some with skalyng ladders, some
with hokes, and some with cordes and plommetes, euerye
man desiryng to get vpo ye walles."
A man, therefore, having provided himself with
a rope, could as easily by its means draw himself
up out of a chasm as a besieger by the help of
" corde and plommete " could scale a town wall.
To apply this to the passage in hand, I would
observe that Diana conclusively rebutted Bertram's
arguments, and by her employment of the allusion
to the rose-tree showed, that she had a thorough
prevision of the ruin and desertion consequent on
compliance. Bertram, in spite of this, persisting
in his solicitations, she replies to the effect, " I see
how it is ; when men meet with a repulse, and find
themselves in such a difficulty, they encourage
themselves to persevere with the hope that we
women shall forsake oiurselves, and be unfaithful
to our true interest." In short, the words of Diana's
very condensed language might be paraphrased
thus : — " I see that men in so deep a pit of diffi-
culty make themselves ropes, whereby to extricate
themselves, the material out of which they form
them being the hope that women will prove un-
faithful to themselves and their firmest convictions."
The passage thus explained seems fairly intelligible
after all. W. B.
WHY ADAM MEANS NORTH, SOUTH, EAST AND
WEST. — In the Dialogue of Salomon and Saturn,
ed. Kemble, p. 178, is the following singular
passage : " Tell me, whence was the name of Adam
formed 1 Answer. I tell thee, of four stars. Tell
me, how are they called ? A nswer. I tell thee,
Arthox, Dux, Arotholem, Minsymbrie" (I give
here Kemble's translation, instead of the Anglo-
Saxon original, because it answers my purpose
quite as well).
These names have never been explainedy to my
knowledge, and I confess that I never expected to
know what they mean. There are no stars with
such names.
But in the Cursor Mundi, ed. Morris, p. 42, is
a passage, equally hopeless as it stands, to this
effect : — " Hear now the reason of his name, why
he was called Adam. In this name are laid four
letters, that are derived from the four ways ; so that
Adam is as much as to say, as East, West, North,
and South." It is obvious that the initials of these
words do not make up Adam in English.
The two passages, both unintelligible in them-
selves, completely explain each other ; for, though
those words do not spell Adam in English, they do
so in Greek. Here, then, is the answer to the
riddle ; the " four stars " is a mistake for the four
"quarters," and the words, apparently so m'ysterious,
are merely Arctos, Dusis, Anatole, Mesembria ;
a/DKTOS, Svo-69, dvaToA?7, fj,ecn)p./3pta. Moral :
never guess, but wait for fresh information to turn
up. WALTER W. SKEAT.
1, Cintra Terrace, Cambridge.
EDW. WINDSOR. — Some years ago, a friend pur-
chased, for a few annas, at a native bookstall in
Calcutta, a curious octavo volume, which he kindly
sent to me, at that time quartered in the City of
Palaces. The title is Clavis Astrologies Elimata,
or a Key to the whole Art of Astrology, by Wm.
Lilly, Student in Astrology. It is dedicated to
" The most eminently accomplished in all Ingenious
literature, Elias Ashmole, of the Middle Temple,
Esq." Dated " from my house in Hersham, Parish
of Waltham upon Thames, Ap1 19th 1676." On a.
fly-leaf in "the Kudolphine Tables supputated to
the Meridian of Uraniburge," and bound up with
the Clavis, are written the following notes, in a
very distinct small hand : —
"Edwd Windsor.
" I was born xbr yc 21sl, 1658, by estimation, about 1 in
ye morning.
" xbr ye 27th 1676, began to travell.
" Novbr ye 29th 1692, att midnight, A Violent fitt of
sickness seiz'1 me.
"June ye 5th 1693, att i past 7 in ye morning, man-'1
my second wife.
" Decemlir yc 15th 16th 1694, an hour past 11 att night,
my daughter Debborah was born.
" July ye 6th 1697, between 6 & 7 in yp morning, my
daughter Betty was born.
"June yc 26th 1698, att $ an hour past 3 in y° morning,
my son Edwd was born.
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" Aug. yc 6t!l 1699, 7 in j' morning, my son Benj" was
born.
" Sepf ye 7th 1702, between 3 and about 4 in ye after-
noone, Benj" ye 2d was born."
The above must have been entered for the pur-
pose of casting nativities by (I conjecture) a London
citizen.
Should any of Mr. Edw. Windsor's descendants
be in existence, I will gladly forward to them the
volume that has been so long absent from the
family bookshelves. A. A.
Pitlochry.
SIR EGBERT WILSON'S "NOTE-BOOK." — The
above book is headed " Omnium Gatherum," R. W.
" Copied June 1827 out of note-books written as
memoranda were collected or incidents occurred."
R. W.—
1. " General Buonaparte was married to Madame Beau-
harnais in a small house now occupied by Bertrand.
When I went to see it, upon the pedestal of the Emperor's
bust had been engraved by Joseph Napoleon : —
'In hac minima jam maximus
Plus quam maxima concepit.' "
2. " In Spain there is a legal and usual form of answer
to Royal Edicts — 'We have received the Royal command
with respect, but shall not execute it.' "
3. " An Archbishop marching at the head of his troops
asked a peasant why he laughed ? For, said he, don't you
know I am a Duke as well as an Archbishop] That is
the reason, said the peasant ; for what will become of the
Archbishop when the Duke goes to the Devil?"
4. " Louis the XIV. reproved the Duke of Orleans for
keeping a Jansenist in his service. Ths Duke assured
the King that ' he was an Atheist, and not a Jansenist ' ;
on which His Majesty withdrew his objection."
HERBERT RANDOLPH.
NEVIL. — In the Catalogi Librorum Manu-
scriptorum 'Anglias et Hibernice, Oxon., 1697, vol.
ii., p. 360, occurs a list, entitled, " Auctarium
Librorum vii Manuscriptorum quos transmisit D.
Abrahainus Pryme Lincolniensis." The second of
these books is thus described : —
" A large Chronicle writt by Mr. George Nevil about
the year 1577, in six volumes folio, from Brute's days unto
the aforesaid year."
This George Nevil was, if I mistake not, George
Nevil of Faldingworth, co. Lincoln, who died in
1579. He, no doubt, made up the early part of
the book from well-known materials ; but it is
probable that much original information was re-
corded by him relating to the events of his own
days and the times immediately preceding them.
The Nevils of Faldingworth were among the
oldest of the Lincolnshire families, and more than
one of George Nevil's relatives took an active part
in the local politics of the stormy days of the Re-
formation. It is probable that this manuscript, if
it could be recovered, would turn out to be an im-
portant historical document.
EDWARD PEACOCK.
Bottesford Manor, Brigg.
SENSELESS LAUGHTER. — Gonzalo says, in the
Tempest : " I do well believe your highness ; and
did it to minister occasion to these gentlemen, who
are of such sensible and nimble lungs, that they
always use to laugh at nothing." — Act ii. sc. 1. An
old Greek poet, whose name I do not call to mind,
says very much the same : —
r«A.£ 8'6 juwpos, KO.V ri fj.rj yeAotov y.
Fools laugh for laughing's sake and nothing more.
I take these passages to form a pretty close
parallel. The italics are mine, not Shakspeare's.
EDMUND TEW, M.A.
WONDERFUL AUTOMATA.— Mr. J. Loaring, in
his Common Sayings, gives a curious list. Archy-
tas, of Tarentum, about 400 B.C., is said to have
made a wooden pigeon that could fly. Albertus
Magnus made an automaton to open the door
when any one knocked. Regiornontanus made an
iron fly, which flew out of his hand, and returned,
after moving about the room. In 1738 an auto-
maton flute-player was exhibited at Paris. In
1741 Vaucanson made a duck which dabbled in
the water, swam, drank, and quacked, like a real
bird. During the present century, a Swiss, named
Mailardes, constructed a female figure, which
played eighteen tunes on the piano, and continued
in motion an hour. To Mr. Loaring's list may be
added the calculating-machine of Babbage, and
the automaton chess-player of Mazziel (more
wonderful than all). But is not this last to be
attributed to human agency? It did not always
win, whereas a pure machine would have always
won. Can your readers inform me ]
F. B. DOVETON.
MONUMENTAL INSCRIPTION, ALMONDSBURY. —
The folio wing singular epitaph was copied, in 1870,
from a monument inserted in the wall of the north
aisle of Almondsbury Church, Gloucestershire : —
' Of all the creatures wch. God has made under the
sun there is none so miserable as man, For all dumb
creatures have no misfortunes to befal them, but what
come by nature, but man through his own folly and
against his own knowledge brings himself into a thousand
greifs both of soul and body.
" As for Example, our Father had two Children and
against his knowledge he comited the sin of Idolatry
upon us, For had our Father done his duty toward God
but one part in a thousand as he did toward us, when he
E rayed to God to spare our lives God might have heard
is prayer. But God is a jealous God and punisheth the
faults of parents upon their children. Tho' the sins of
our Father have depriv'd us of the light of the sun,
thanks be to God we enjoy more great, more sweet, more
blessed light which is ye presence of God ye Maker of all
lights to whom be all honour and glory.
" Beneath this place ly the Bodies of John and Eliza-
beth Maroune, in the memory of whom their Father
caused this Monument to be put up, Elizabeth Died in
1708, aged 6, John in 1711, aged 5, their Father a poore
man born in the Province of Dolphine in the kingdom of
France, he beleivs that his sins were the cause that God
took the life of his Children.
" Pechur navanse pa un pas sins pauser a la mort."
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I am not perfectly certain whether to rea<
pawser or panser in the last line. Anyhow, I sup
pose the whole line may be corrected thus : —
" P«5cheur ! N'avance pas un pas, sans penser a 1
Mort." V.H.I.L.I.C.I.V,
tfluiru*.
[We must request correspondents desiring informatio
on family matters of only private interest, to affix thei
names and addresses to their queries, in order that tb
answers may be addressed to them direct.]
COPPER-PLATE ENGRAVING. — Before me ar
two impressions from a copper-plate, 11 § x 7f in.
engraved with a design showing a woman's cham
ber, with the inmate, (1) a fat old female, having
features almost as bold as those of a man, reclining
in bed, while (2) a second woman, who stands a
the further side of the bedstead, offers to her com
panion a spoon in which lie what appear to b<
pills. A man (3), in a plaid dressing-gown, siti
on a stool placed at the nearer side of the bed, anc
holds the right arm of 1, appearing to be conjuring
her to do something. At the bed-side, in front
sits a young woman (4), reading ; near the lasi
stands another young woman (5), rubbing her head
and addressing a dapper little gentleman (6), who
holds a physician's cane, and sits cross-legged in a
low chair near the front of the composition, while
caressing his neighbour. At the foot of the bed
stand a young woman and a gentleman (7 and 8) ;
the former is lamenting, the latter appears to be
consoling her while he handles her bare bosom,
which part of her person, like the busts of all the
females in the chamber, is not only large, but
ostentatiously displayed : the gentleman holds a
drinking-glass in his disengaged hand. A young
woman (9) opens the door of the room from with-
out, and, with the action of a domestic servant,
makes a communication to the persons assembled.
Labels, without inscriptions, issue from the mouths
of all the persons. On the wall hang five prints,
three of which show Hogarth's designs, respectively
A Midnight Modern Conversation, and Plates III.
and VI. of A Harlot's Progress.
On a third impression from the same plate some
one has added, with a pen, certain inscriptions,
filling the blank labels and copying the same, pro-
bably from a complete impression of the design.
Thus, 2 says to 1, "Take this, mother, it always
suits you." 1 replies, "No, child, no, my com-
plaint wants a larger dose." 3 says, " Come, sister,
come, you will spoil our game now." 5 says to 6,
" Will mother get through it this time, Sir E ."
6 replies, "Yes, if gold can do it, my dear."
7 says, "What will I do?— what will I do?—
if mother does not succeed — oh — " 8 answers,
" Take this (the contents of the glass) to keep up
your spirits, Sir E , and I will do it yet."
The plate has been engraved with some skill
and care ; it looks not unlike the work of Vander-
gutcht, and dates, no doubt, from between 1734
and 1740. Can any one supply its history, or
explain its allusions ? 0.
FASTING COMMUNION IN THE CHURCH OF
ENGLAND. — Can any readers of " N. & Q." furnish
me with any evidence from literary or private
sources, such as letters, family journals, &c., of the
observance or disuse in the Church of England of
the primitive Communion Fast ? The few notices
in divines, especially that in Hooker (iv. 2, E. P.),
would imply that it was generally observed, but
the generality of English divines furnish, I believe,
no evidence at all, one way or the other. There
are probably notices in the quarters I have in-
dicated, and I should be very much indebted to
any of your readers who would furnish me with
any such. To myself, materials can hardly be
redundant; but in case a number of answers on
this question cannot be admitted to the columns of
" N. & Q." as not of general interest, I should be
very thankful for any sent privately to
E. T. GIBBONS.
Christ Church, Oxford.
THE ARCHBISHOP OF PHILIPPOLI, 1701. —
" Oxoniana, iii. 146, 147, 148, printed for Eichard
Phillips, Bridge Street, Blackfftars, London, by
Slatter & Munday, Oxford," no date : "An account
of the Archbishop of Philippoli being presented to
a Doctor's Degree at Oxford, in a letter from Mr.
Thwaites to Dr. Charlett." (Mr. Thwaites was
Fellow of Queen's College and Eegius Professor of
Greek). Letter dated Sept. 2, 1701.—
"Rev'd. Sir, — Yesterday at three o'clock the Arch-
tishop of Philippoli was created Doctor of Divinity in
;he Convocation House, his physician made D. Med. and
iis presbyters and deacon M. of Arts : 'twas a mighty
show, and the solemnity was very decent.
" His Grace made a speech in plain Hellenistic Greek,
and other remarks are made about him and the speech
and ceremonies."
My queries are — 1. Who was this personage ?
2. Have similar English honours been rendered in
other instances to dignitaries and members of the
jreek Church ? HERMANVILLE.
[In 1870 the University of Oxford conferred the degree
>f D.D. on Lycurgus, Alexander, Archbishop of Syros
and Tenos.]
BOLINGBROKE'S POLITICAL TRACTS. — A small
volume of political tracts, most, if not all, of which
vere from the pen of Bolingbroke, was published
iy Franklin, in 1748, and also the same year by
Faulkner, at Dublin. The Preface states that —
" In the infancy of the late Opposition some of the
ollowing tracts were usher'd into the world from a
rinting press under the sanction of a late noble Duke,
anded privately about, and very difficult to be procured."
Who was the late noble Duke here referred to,
nd are copies of these private editions now in
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5th S. I. APRIL 18, 74.
existence ? The volume contains seventeen tracts,
and several of them had appeared in the Crafts-
man. EDWARD SOLLY.
PERCY, THE TRUNK-MAKER. — Where can I get
any account of the suit of Percy, a Dublin trunk-
maker, circa 1688, to recover the title and estates
of the old Earls of Northumberland, then extinct
in the male line 1 It was one of the causes celebres
of that period. His son was afterwards Lord
Mayor of Dublin, and his name may be seen
on a tablet affixed to the base of the statue of
William III. in College Green, Dublin, bearing
the date 1702. H. H.
Lavender Hill.
OLD CHARTERS. — In the last edition of the
Monasticon, vol. iii. pp. 617, 618, are printed cer-
tain charters of Eoger de Mowbray, Thomas
D'Arcy, and Hemelin, Earl de Warren. These
are said to be taken " ex autographo in bibl.
Hatton." Where are they now 1
K. P. D. E.
" DRUID." — Collins, in his lines on the death of
Thomson, says : —
" In yonder grave a Druid sleeps " ;
and Lord Byron writes of Rogers : —
" And Memory o'er her Druid's tomb
Shall weep that aught of thee can die " ;
and, in his English Bards, he says : —
" With you, ye Druids, rich in native lead,
Who daily scribble for your daily bread,
With you I war not."
What, in these cases, is the precise meaning
attached to the word " Druid " 1 In the first two
quotations and the last it cannot be the same.
W. M. T.
KNIGHTS AT THE CORONATION OF THE EM-
PEROR HENRY VII. — I am desirous of learning
the parentage of the following personages of illus-
trious but illegitimate birth, who were among the
knights present at the coronation of the Emperor
Henry VII. at Eome, in 1312 : M. Louis de
Savoye, M. Guillaume le Bastard (also of Savoy),
M. Henry de Flandres. J. WOODWARD.
DISSECTING MEN ALIVE. — It is asserted in the
Quarterly Review that the physicians of Mont-
pellier, in the sixteenth century, received from the
French Government the annual present of a
criminal to be dissected alive for the advancement
of science. What authority is there for the state-
ment, and, if it is accurate, when was the practice
first commenced, and finally discontinued 1
~. GEORGE R. JESSE.
Henbury, Macclesfield.
GREEK ENCLITICS.— Jelf says, in his Grammar
(§64, obs. 4):—
'In grammars it is generally laid down that in this
case [when there are two or more enclitics in succession
— Hid. supra] each enclitic throws its accent on the one
next preceding, but this is incorrect."
Can any of your correspondents tell me whether
there is any other than Jelf's authority for this
last assertion 1 C. S.
SWANS. — Polydore Vergil says : —
" There are also swarmes in these lakes and rivers, not
soe small a pleasure to the beholder as a great greefe of
mind."
What does he mean by swans being " a great
greefe of mind "? EDMUND TEW, M.A.
" THE TESTAMENT OF THE TWELVE PATRI-
ARCHS."— Who is the author of this work, and
when was it written ? The copy I have, of 1671,
is said to have been translated from a Greek copy
now in the Cambridge University Library ; it was
translated into Latin by Grostete, Bishop of Lin-
coln. It is mentioned by Basnage, 1. iv. c. 12.
E. L. BLENKINSOPP.
THE Oxford University Magazine, 1834, has
some translations from the Greek drama by A.,
and there is a translation of two or three acts of
Schiller's Don Carlos anonymous. Who are the
authors of these translations ? R. INGLIS.
WALCOT OF WALCOT. — In the pedigree (Landed
Gentry) of the descendants of Charles Walcot, of
Builth, it is asserted that Colonel Thomas Walcot
(executed in 1683) had several sons, who died
without issue, including his fourth son, Joseph
Walcot. I should be glad to know on what grounds
the statement, as regards the latter, is made, for I
think that I may be able to refer to the contrary
evidence. S.
THE UNDERWOODS OF STAFFORDSHIRE. — In
Dr. Plot's Staffordshire he gives, on the map of the
county, the arms of the Underwood family, with
a residence near Stone. On the Ordnance map
Darlington Grange appears to be about the place.
What has become of the family, and has any
member of it ever migrated to Birmingham 1
E. U.
WHATELY'S " RHETORIC." — The followingpassage
occurs in Whately's Rhetoric, 7th edition, 1846,
page 66: —
" The testimony of the Evangelists, that the miracles
of Jesus were acknowledged by the unbelievers, and
attributed to magic, is confirmed by the Jewa, in a work
called Toldoth Jese/w," &c., &c.
I have been endeavouring to get a copy of this
book for years, and have inquired about it of
intelligent Jews almost in vain. Are any of your
readers acquainted with this book, or can they
inform me where it can be purchased ?
S. P. H.
5th S. I. APRIL 18, 74.]
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309
TOLLING BELLS. — Is not this custom to b
traced to the desire of driving away evil spirit
from the house where the body lay ? I believe
also, bells are tolled to invite the passer-by to prat
for the soul of the departed ; but, of course, thi
meaning cannot attach to the custom in the Pro
testant Church. What, then, is the precise mean
ing attaching to the custom in our day 1
F. B. DOVETOX.
M.P.S FOR WOODSTOCK. — Who was Wm. Thorn
ton, who became M.P. for Woodstock in 1812
and who was the John Gladstone elected for th
same borough in 1820? W.
ARCHIBALD HAMILTON ROWAN.
(5th S. i. 267.)
A very full account of the career of this remark
able* man may be found in The Lives and Time
•of the United Irishmen, by Richard R. Madden
second series, Dublin, 1858, pp. 174-227, and in
the authorities quoted or referred to. He was
born 12th May, 1757, and deceased on the Is:
Nov., 1834. There are two authorities not men
tioned by Mr. Madden, which are in my possession
and are seldom met with, entitled, Society oj
United Irishmen of Dublin, established Nov. 9
1791, printed at Dublin 1794 ; and a Report oj
the Trial of Archibald Hamilton Rowan, Esq., on
an information for the distribution of a libel, with
the subsequent proceedings thereon. This latter
was printed for himself, and sold by P. Byrne,
Graf ton Street, 1794. Mr. Madden's original MSS.
letters, papers, &c., quoted and referred to by him
in his work cited above, are now in the Library oi
Trinity College, Dublin.
My first visit to Button (South Town) was in
the year 1836. There was then, and for about ten
years later, a local guide commonly called Doctor
Finn, who professed to cure consumption by the
extract of dandelion ; and other ailments, by scurvy-
grass, samphire, &c. He was the great depositary
of the traditions of the Hill of Howth, and pointed
out to me a cave, or old gravel pit, in which A. H.
Rowan used to be concealed during the daytime.
At night he used to resort to Mr. Sweetman's
hospitable house, and ultimately escaped by his
co-operation to France. B. E. N.
In answer to the inquiry about Archibald
Hamilton Rowan, I can inform you, from having
served several years with his son, a distinguished
naval officer, who commanded the " Cambrian "
in the Mediterranean, that in some intercepted
letters which were written either on his passage
out or during his residence in America, he ex-
pressed such strong regret at having joined the
Irish rebellion, that, through the intercession of
Lord Clare, he received a free pardon, and returned
to Europe, and lived at his own residence, Killy-
leagh, in the county of Down, in Ireland. I re-
member being introduced to him in London, and
thinking him, like his son, a very handsome man.
His grandson, Captain Hamilton, is now living at
70, Queen's Gate, from whom, I have no doubt,
any further particulars can be obtained if necessary.
AUG. CLIFFORD, Admiral, R.N.
House of Lords.
Of Irish blood, he was born and educated in
England, and in his youth acquired a large pro-
perty under the will of his maternal grandfather,
Mr. Rowan, a barrister and lay Fellow of Trinity
College, Dublin, who in a kind of prophetic spirit
made it a condition in the bequest that his grand-
son should not come to Ireland until after he should
be twenty-five years of age. He became secretary
to the Dublin Society of United Irishmen in
1791-2, the object of which society was "a
national legislature and an union of the people."
In December, 1792, an address was determined on
to the volunteers of Ireland, intimating to them
that as they first took up arms to protect their
country from foreign enemies, for the same purpose
it became necessary that they should resume them.
For distributing the address agreed upon in 1792,
Rowan was prosecuted in 1794 on a charge of
seditious libel, found guilty, and sentenced to a
fine of 500?. and two years' imprisonment. He had
not been long in prison (Newgate, Dublin) when
lie learnt that the Government had discovered he
tiad been implicated in high treason, and would
proceed against him on another indictment. Full
letails are given in Ho well's State Trials for 1794.
Rowan escaped from prison on 1st May, 1794, and
the Government offered a large reward for his ap-
)rehension. With some difficulty he landed on
ihe coast of Bretagne, where his party was arrested
as spies, and cast into prison, but, after some days
detention, he was liberated, and proceeded to Paris,
xnd thence to the United States. After several
rears of exile, an act of royal clemency, without
,ny conditions, restored him to his country, where
ic resided for many years. See Memoirs of A.
Hamilton Rowan, by W. H. Drummond, D.D.,
Dublin, 1840. EVERARD HOME COLEMAN.
Imprisoned for complicity in the Rebellion of
798, he escaped from jail in disguise, and was
nabled to reach the coast, so as to cross the
Channel in a fishing boat. I have heard the late
dr. Richard Lalor Shiel relate how Mr. Rowan
ad to walk, dressed as a countryman, backwards
nd forwards, at Rutland Square, waiting for a man
lat was to meet him, leading a horse ; and how
uch he was in fear of being recognized and
rrested. He was afterwards pardoned, and per-
itted to return to Ireland. I remember seeing
im often in Dublin. He was a tall, remarkable-
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looking man, with strongly marked features, and
used to be followed in the street by two tall, rough
greyhounds, commonly (but, I believe,'erroneously)
said to be Irish wolf-dogs. His property lay in the
County Down, at Killyleagh. He died in 1834,
and was succeeded by his grandson, Archibald
Kowan Hamilton, Esq. S. T. P.
Rowan left an autobiography, which was edited
by Dr. Drunimond, and published by Tegg about
1840. See, also, Report of his Trial on an In-
formation for the Distribution of a Libel, &c.,
Dublin, 1794, and HowelTs State Trials for 1794.
This trial was the occasion of one of Curran's
greatest efforts, and his address was republished in
the collected edition of his Speeches.
C. ELLIOT BROWNE.
I have seen Hamilton Eowan in Dublin between
the years 1830 and 1834, when I lived in Trinity
College. He was then about eighty years of age,
and stooped much : he was very tall and thin, with
large prominent teeth and long white hair. He
fled from Ireland about 1797, and ultimately was
permitted to return to this country, when he was
indicted in the Court of King's Bench for high
treason; and when called to plead, he pleaded
guilty, but produced the King's pardon. I have
often quoted this, as an illustration, when preach-
ing on Justification. H.
Dublin.
EPISCOPAL TITLES.
(4th S. xii. passim; 5th S. i. 92.)
No doubt H. P. D. did fail to see that he had
committed " the logical fallacy of defending that
which nobody had denied," for, strange to say, he
commits it again even worse than before. I have
never said, intended to say, or do say now, that
the Church is not a power, or denied that she can
do many things, as she does do many things, by the
simple virtue of that power, wholly independent of
State authority or interference. To deny this
would be a preaching up of the rankest Erastianism.
The civil power in a Church established like that
of England has jurisdiction only in matters secular,
spiritual matters being the exclusive prerogative
of spiritual persons. Among these matters, as very
prominent, is the power of conferring orders, and
any bishop, himself canonically ordained, possesses
this power wholly apart from connexion with the
State, and therefore " State recognition " would
have had nothing whatever to do with, nor would
have added one iota of authority to, the fact of the
American Church receiving Episcopacy at the hands
of Scotch prelates.
I do not, therefore, deny to the Church the
power of conferring such titles as " lord," &c.,
but I do deny that she has ever authoritatively
exercised such power. I take my stand on this,
and on this rest my firm conviction that all
such titles are merely titles of courtesy or custom.
If I am wrong, it is quite open to H. P. D. to set
me right, but I must warn him that my conversion
will be achieved by nothing less than the produc-
tion of an absolute Canon of the Church assembled
in General Council, nor, to my thinking, can any-
thing short of this be of one feather's weight in sup-
port of the validity of your correspondent's doctrine.
EDMUND TEW, M.A.
In his last note on this subject, H. P. D. attacks
MR. TEW'S proposition that right and legal claim
are synonymous, and advances some, as I conceive,
quite untenable propositions of his own. A person
cannot be properly said to have a right to a thing
which he cannot obtain by the law of the State of
which he is a member. Right, correctly used, can
only mean a legal right (a tautological expression,
by the way) ; but a customary meaning has been
given it when qualified by the adjective moral,
when it designates something which, though not
capable of being enforced at law, is yet due by
reason of those rules of morality, honour, or cour-
tesy which are recognized by all. Now, if these
bishops have a right to the style of " Lord," it is
either a moral or a legal right. The former is in-
dignantly repudiated by H. P. D., who asserts that
they are not "lords" by courtesy; and he also
denies that they have a legal right to that title.
What then can he mean? He asserts with the
most absolute confidence that the " Church can
confer rights which the civil law may or may not
enforce, and which are not affected by the acknow-
ledgment or denial of them by the State." Re-
marking casually that this is establishing that
juridical absurdity, an imperium in imperio, I
would ask what is the Church ? Leaving aside the
case of the Church of England, which is entirely a
portion of the State, what is that Episcopal Church
in Scotland of which he says so much ? It is a
voluntary organization — of the highest, most dig-
nified, and most religious character, indeed — but
only a voluntary organization and private corpora-
tion, according to the law by whose permission it
exists. Admitting this to be the case, and follow-
ing out H. P. D.'s reasoning to a logical conclusion,
any voluntary body may grant the style of " lord "
to any person they please. Supposing that the
learned and pious Wesleyan divines who constitute
" the Legal Hundred " were to pass a resolution
that they should be styled " lord," would H. P. D.
recognize their right to that title, and, if so, what
right ?
Again, H. P. D. argues that, because the Church
can make bishops, it " can give right to a title
which is only an outward sign of the power COH-
ferred." But, by his own showing, the title of
" lord " does not necessarily attach to the recipient
of episcopal orders, as in the case of suffragans
mentioned by him. Why, then, should the Scotch
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bishops, for example, have a right to be called " my
lord," when they are merely divines who have re-
ceived episcopal orders ? The title of " lord," as
given to an English bishop, must be considered as
a purely English title, and can no more be con-
ferred on any subject of this realm by anybody
other than the sovereign of it, than the title
of " sir " or of " lord " can be claimed by an
Englishman who has received a foreign knighthood
or barony. He is undoubtedly a " knight " or a
" baron," as the case may be, but, as certainly, he
is not a " sir " or a " lord." So of these bishops,
they are undoubtedly bishops, and have full spiritual
authority as such, but they are not spiritual " lords'
of this realm. E. E. STREET.
Chichegter.
THE LICENCE ASSUMED BY LAWYERS (5th S. i.
102.) — In reply to W. B.'s interesting note, I may
observe that the liberty of the English subject,
until his conviction, or the liberty of his counsel in
a court of justice, is not to be meted out by a
Scotch hour-glass or " a quantity of water confined
in a cylindric vessel"; that the laws that were
framed for the government of counsel in countries
that, compared with ours, governed less by law than
by violence ; and in countries where the law was a
thing of theory, and seldom of practice; and in
countries, where they were governed by the
despotism at one time of the sovereign, and
at another by that of the people — " the sovereign
people " — are by no means necessary here, where
there is an unwritten, but a well-observed code,
restraining the "licence" referred to in all its
shapes. But of late that ancient healthy restraint
of the senior over the junior counsel has been con-
siderably weakened. And why ? In the first place,
by an enormous influx to the Bar, during the
last twelve years, out of classes that never dreamt
of such an invasion before. The Bar do not object
to the " class"; but to the manners and education
of the bulk there is a decided objection, and, as a
matter of course, to their " opinions," also formed,
as they must have been originally, in the very
lowest walks of commercial success. This is one
reason. The other is, the creation of late years of
cartloads of "Queen's Counsel," through politi-
cal interest, which operates in a manner as between
junior and senior I do not care to mention. If
these things continue, the Bar will degenerate to
the level of that of the countries referred to in the
paper of W. B. But, thank God, it has not come
to anything like that yet. We only hear and see
exceptional cases, from which, presenting so vivid
a contrast to the general conduct of the Bar, we
receive false and misleading impressions, and are
led to think of " the licence assumed by lawyers."
Promotion in its ranks is not encouraged in
these days by hard reading. It is the best advo-
cate, whether of a Government cause, or that of a
private client, that attains the faded dignity of
" silk," or " elevation " to the Bench. What we
require, from the Chancellor downwards, is men of
judicial, not of talkative capacity; who can weigh
out the law justly and impartially and plainly, and
not obscure it by eloquence, the cloak too often of
their own ignorance. From Westminster, at times,
to the pettiest Court of Record in the manufac-
turing districts this is too often the case.
I do not say it is " grossly," but say it is " too
often" the case as compared with past ages.
Again, every man taking a Recordership should be
" shelved," because an influential attorney some-
times biases the Court, and the Recorder "sniggles"
at and over-" protects " his accommodating clerk
of the peace or of arraigns, who sometimes is of a
very conceited, even illiterate, cross-bred race, with
all that air and tone of rusticity seen occasionally
to distinguish the " learned " Recorder and " sti-
pendiary " of the small benches of aspiring factory
towns. Therefore, these do not "get on" so
smoothly with a counsel who has any respect for
himself. I want these local judges to be taken from
a class of men at whom the lowest politicians cannot
laugh. I want them also to be made as independent
as those of the county court, by giving good sti-
pends, and compelling them to give up practice as
counsel.
Finally, shun the political lawyer, and give pro-
motion, as of old, to the hardworking man-of-the-
world, practitioner, student, and gentleman, whether
he has ever " held a brief " as a talkative leader or
not. The very best appointments to the Bench
have sometimes been those of stuff gownsmen,
and certainly never those of the roaring poli-
ticians of the platforms of mechanics' institutes
and free-trade halls, and the advocates of Home
Rule and Maine-Law Liquorishness. Since
Brougham's time these small imitations have
become insufferable. H. T.
FIELD LORE : CARR, &c. (4th S. xi. xii. passim ;
5th S. i. 35, 131.)— In the Isle of Axholme the small
pieces of land near the bank of the Trent are fre-
quently called Groves. Land end is another name
for them. I apprehend that grove, here has nothing
to do with trees, but that it comes from the Anglo-
Saxon Graf an ; p. Gr6f, to dig.
Pingle is thus glossed in Miss Baker's North-
amptonshire Words and Phrases: — "A clump of
trees or underwood, not large enough for a spin-
ney." This sense appears to be peculiar to us.
Todd and the glossarists who notice the word
define it " A small croft or inclosure."
"Meadow and close and pingle; where suns cling
And shine on earliest flowers."
Clare's MS. Poenu.
Hagg means — 1. The broken ground in a bog.
[t is used in this sense by Dugdale in his Imbank-
ing and Draining (I have not the book at hand
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[5th 3. I. APRIL 18, 74.
to give the reference). Scott uses the word fre-
quently in this sense, e. g.: —
" He led a small and shaggy nag
That through a bog from hag to hag
Could bound like any Billhope stag."
Lay of the Last Minstrel, iv. 5.
We call the deep holes in ruts hags, and speak of
a bad highway as being " strange and haggy."
2. " A certain division of wood intended to be
cut The park at Auckland Castle was for-
merly called the Hag." — Halliwell's Diet, sub voce.
In this latter sense it clearly means a hedge, fence,
or enclosure. Anglo-Saxon, Hcege ; Dutch, Haegli ;
French, Haye.
Dale, as a local name, has no necessary con-
nexion with a valley in these northern parts of
Lincolnshire. It is simply the Anglo-Saxon Ddl,
a part, and was used in the old time before the
enclosures to designate the shares of land which
the freeholders or copyholders held in the open
fields. There were many of these dales in the
parish of Kirton in Lindsey, the names of some of
which, if I am not mistaken, are extant in memory
yet. Norden's Survey of Kirton SoJce, taken in
the reign of James I., mentions Black Moulde
Dale, Baytinge Cross Dale, Dale " extra borialem
de stump cross," Beacon Dale, and many others.
EDWARD PEACOCK.
Bottesford Manor, Brigg.
BULL-BAITING (5th S. i. 182, 274.)— NUMMUS
Is quite right in stating that the Spaniards, while
retaining the barbarous custom of bull-baiting
(query: "bull-fighting," the Tauromachia gives some
chance of revenge to the victim ; and the cry of
" Perros al Toro ! " is only heard when Toro turns
tail), have not yet arrived at the stage of excusing
the practice on the score that it makes the beef ten-
der. This idea seems borrowed from the old story
(fabulous, I fancy) about whipping pigs to death.
" Carne de Toreo " — bull-fighting beef — is usually
looked upon in Spain as little better than that
" fevered flesh of buffaloes" which the wicked Count
Cenci gave his wife and daughter to eat. The
carcase is not absolutely thrown to the dogs ; but,
being removed to the " carniceria," or shambles
attached to the arena, is cut up, and sold at a vile
price to the poorest and lowest classes of the
population. G. A. SALA.
Brompton.
THE "CHRISTIAN YEAR" (5th S. i. 128, 195,
276.) — The following letter, which appeared in the
Guardian of March 11 last, p. 302, gives the
author's explanation of the line which has elicited
such various interpretations : —
" Sir,— Some twenty years ago a reverend Professor o:
Oxford, in conversation with me at Ilfracombe, started
a query as to the possible meaning of the line in the
Christian Year (seventh Sunday after Trinity) now under
discussion. In the end I was deputed to write to Mr.
Keble, who in reply, in his own kindly and ' affectionate
way, said he supposed he meant something of this sort —
;hat when you stand on a height or eminence such as
that referred to, you feel an almost irresistible impulse
;o leap over. I have not by me the exact words he used,
)ut I am certain I have conveyed the real purport of his
note ; nor can I imagine any kind of reason why any
should be sceptical a« to the credibility of the explana-
ion ; not, I think, any who has visited ' the motherland
of Christendom,' or 'lone Tiberias' sea,' 'Hills, vales,
and streams of Holy Palestine' :
' And sweet to them whose bounded lot at home
Constrains their steps in quietude to stray,
Yea, sweet it is to them, afar to roam
In thought, companions of the palmers' way.'
Bishop Mant, Gospel Miracles, p. 120. Cf. The Christian
Year, Monday before Easter. F. B. BAKEK.
'•' Brighton, March 5, 1874."
It is to be hoped that Mr. Baker still has in his
possession the letter from Mr. Keble, though he
iiad it not by him when he sent his communication
to the Guardian, and that he will take an early
opportunity of making known the exact words in
which the poet explained his meaning. Thus
much is clear, that " bound " is a " leap or spring,"
and not a " limit " or " boundary," and that the
bound intended is that of a spectator looking down
upon the waters, and not the bound of the waters
themselves, as I ventured to suggest. Some of
your correspondents who have had the opportunity
of visiting the scene may be able to state whether
the darksome heights of Bethsaida" overhang the
lake, or recede in a gradual slope from its waters.
If the former be the correct description of them, it
is easier to understand the feeling to which the
poet alludes, both as to the impulse to leap over,
and the seeming possibility of leaping far enough
to reach the other side, a feeling which would
naturally lead the fervent imagination of a poet to
express itself in some such terms as those actually
employed, " That all seem gather'd in (i.e., within
the compass of) one eager bound."
W. E. BUCKLEY.
KING JAMES I. OF ENGLAND (5th S. i. 241.) —
I see that MR. THORNBURY chimes in with what
I must term the vulgar view of the character of
King James. I am not going to contend that King
James was perfect ; but I believe that he is one of
those historical characters to whom gross injustice
has been done, arising from, the circumstances in
which he was placed. These circumstances were —
1. He was a Scotsman. This offended a great
number of Englishmen.
2. As an upholder of the Church of England, he
was opposed to Puritanism. This offended the
Puritans, a sect, there can be no doubt, full of vain-
glorious pride and Phariseeism.
3. He upheld the royal dignity. This offended
many, for various reasons.
4. He was peaceful (1) because he liked peace —
an excellent trait in a king ; (2) because he had no
money to carry on wars efficiently with, even when
desirable. The result offended the English people,
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who wished all the eclat of war without paying
for it.
5. As it was necessary, in order to carry on the
government, and such wars as were carried on, to
apply to Parliament for money, the King did so.
This offended a great many, for various reasons.
But when Cromwell's military usurpation took
place, he compelled the English to pay, I think,
five or six times more per annum to him than they
had ever paid to King James or King Charles — a
fate the English richly deserved, and which in
history is kept out of sight.
All these causes have resulted in the acts and
character of King James being most unjustly
depreciated and maligned.
As to his poetry, nobody, as far as I am aware,
ever said he was a great poet. But when every-
thing is taken into account, the lines quoted are
creditable enough. I prefer his plain, homely
lines to the ambitious stuff, full of sound and fury
signifying nothing, to which we are so often treated
in the present day by the Forcible Feebles.
Too much ado has been made about the alleged
divine right of kings. In the eyes of those who
acknowledge divine providence, kings must reign
in virtue of such divine providence, and hence their
divine right, as it has been termed. But there is
nothing exclusive in this ; it applies to everything ;
and I am not aware that anything else was ever
really and truly contended for with reference to
kings ; at least, I am not aware that anything else
was ever contended for by King James. He, I am
very certain, had far too ample a supply of good
common-sense to contend for anything else.
HENRY KILGOUR.
Edinburgh.
EXTRAORDINARY BIRTH OF TRIPLETS (5th S. i.
249.)— This, properly styled by W. A. C. " extra-
ordinary freak of nature," is perfectly " authentic,"
and no " myth." It occurred at the village of
Angmering, a little over two miles from this place,
and stands on record in the register book of
baptisms for that parish.
Horsefield says, in his History of Sussex (vol. ii.
pp. 141, 142, 4to. 1835):—
" An ancestor of the knightly family of Palmer, men-
tioned in the preceding memorial descent, held lands in
Sussex by grand serjeanty in the time of Henry III., pro
vice custodiendi portas castri de Pevensel. His descen-
dants settled at Steyning, Parham, and Angmering. Of
these Sir Edward Palmer, Knt., married Alice, one of the
sisters and co-heirs of Sir Richard Clement, of the Moat
in Ightham, in Kent, and by her had three sons, born on
three Sundays successively, who all lived to be eminent in
their generation.
" All three were knighted for their bravery by King
Henry VIII. Sir John, the eldest, had the paternal
seat at Angmering, and was twice sheriff of Surrey and
Sussex. Sir Thomas, the youngest of the trine brothers,
made his fortune at the court of Henry VIII. and Ed-
ward VI. ; but taking part with John Dudley, Duke of
Northumberland, in favour of Lady Jane's title to the
crown, he was, on the accession of the lawless Mary,
beheaded with the Duke upon Tower Hill. Upon the
scaffold he boldly avowed his religion to be Protestant.
The second of the three brothers, Sir Henry Palmer,
settled at Wingham, in Kent, where his family long con-
tinued to flourish. He followed the profession of arms,
and much distinguished himself at Guisnes, in Picardy,
as also at the taking of Boulogne, where he had his arm
broken. In the defence of Guisnes he lost his life, when
more than seventy years of age."
I feel quite sure that my friend, the Kector of
Angmering, would gladly furnish your corre-
spondent with copies of the register, if he feels
any curiosity to possess them.
EDMUND TEW, M.A.
See the pedigree of the Palmer family in Cart-
wright's edition of Dallaway's Bape of Arundel,
p. 66. M. C. F.
ROWLANDS ANTICIPATED BY LUTHER (5th S. i.
245.) — I do not think that Eowlands copied
Luther. It is far more probable that both of
them made use of a folk-story common to the
Teutonic races. "How large the world is, to
be sure," exclaim the young ducklings in Hans
Christian Andersen's tale (Tales and Fairy Stories,
trans, by Madame de Chatelaine, p. 176). " What
a charming place tke world is. I had no concep-
tion that it was half so big," cries out Flapsy, the
robin, in Mrs. Trimmer's Fabulous Histories
(1793, p. 81). My grandfather read this book to
my father when he was a very little boy. On
arriving at the above quoted passage, the child
laughed very much, and the elder said, " The lady
who made the book must have heard the tale of
the Kirton man who set off to go to Lincoln."—
"What is that," said my father?"— "Well, you
must know," replied my grandfather, " that a long
time ago, when people did not travel about as they
do now, a man lived at Kirton who was very
anxious to see Lincoln. He went to a friend of
his who had often been there, and they arranged
to walk to that city together. When, however,
they had got about a mile from home, somewhere
just against the Grayingham turning, the first man
saw a tall object in the far distance. ' What is
that 1' inquired he.—' It 's the big steeple of Lin-
coln Minster,' replied the other.—' How far may it
be off?' continued the first speaker.— 'A matter of
seventeen mile/ rejoined the latter. — 'Then I'll
away back agean to my owd wife at Ketton. I hed
no idee that things was so far apart as this,' said
the new traveller, as he turned his face to the north,
and trudged homewards."
I am pretty certain that my grandfather had
never read either Luther's Table -Talk or Kow-
lands's Hvmors Looking Glasse.
An idea not unlike this is conveyed in another
story, which I think is widely spread, and told of
many places. I have heard it thus : —
A certain Kirton man had important business at
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[5th S. I. APML 18, 7i.
Doncaster. There were no railways, coaches, or
other public conveniences for travelling in those
days, so he made his way on foot over Scotton
Common and Hard wick Hill to Kin aid Ferry, and
thence across the heart of the Isle of Axholme and
Hatfield Chace. The roads were bad all the way ;
in many parts of the Isle and Chace, dangerous
from concealed bogs and the overflow of the rivers.
As he returned he found things worse than when
he went. He arrived safely, however, at last on
Hardwick Hill top, from whence he could see his
native town in the distance. So overcome by the
memory of past terrors, he sank on his knees, and
exclaimed, " Thank God, I 'm. in old England once
more."
The Kirton here spoken of is Kirton in Lindsey,
the ancient possession of the Dukes of Cornwall,
not Kirton in Holland, a place near Boston.
MABEL PEACOCK.
Eottesford Manor.
"THE DEATH OF NELSON" (4th S. xi. 28.)—
The first verse of the above song is an adaptation
of an older song, or ode, written on the death of a
very different person— the Duke of Cumberland.
I have a copy now before me, as set to music by
Norris, organist of St. John's, Oxford. The words
run thus : —
"O'er William's tomb, with silent grief opprest,
Eritannia mourns her Hero, now at rest ;
Not tears alone, but praises too, she gives,
Due to the Guardian of our laws and lives ;
Nor shall that laurel ever fade with years,
Whose leaves are watered with a nation's tears."
So you see the laurel, originally intended for the
" Butcher," has at last settled on the head of the
Hero. T. J. B.
BP. BEVERIDGE'S SIMILE OF " PAPER AND
PACKTHREAD " (3rd S. ii. 209.)— This simile appears
to be a very common one. Trapp, the commen-
tator, in his note on the passage, " All these things
shall be added unto you " (St. Matt. vi. 33), says,
" They shall be cast in as an overplus, or as small
advantages to the main bargain ; as paper and
packthread are given where we buy spice and fruit,
or an inch of measure to an ell of cloth." Again,
in Matthew Henry we read, " He who buys goods
has paper and twine flung in"; whilst in one of
Bishop Reynolds's sermons we find a similar
figure, viz., "He who buys a treasure of jewels
hath the cabinet into the bargain."
JOHN CHURCHILL SIKES.
Lichfield House, Anerley Park, Norwood.
JOHN DE TANTONE (5th S. i. 208.)— John de
Taunton was forty-seventh abbot of Glastonbury,
elected June 14, the Thursday after the Feast of
St. Barnabas, anno 1274. He died at Domerham
(a great manor in Wiltshire, belonging to this
abbey, and giving name to a hundred in that
county) on Michaelmas day, at night, in the year
1290 ; and was buried in the abbey church, with
the following epitaph : —
" Ut multo tandem sumptu mul toque labore
Fit pastor, jamjam commoda multa parat.
Kura colit Ohristi docet et praecepta Johannes,
Mox animi exuvias condit in hoc tumulo."
He succeeded Robert de Renderton, and he was
succeeded by John de Kancise. Next came
Geffery Fromont, who, dying anno 1322, was suc-
ceeded by Walter de Tanton, alias Hec ; he died
before confirmation. During the short time he
presided here he made the front of the choir, with
the curious stone images where the crucifix stood.
The next abbot who came after him was Adam de
Sodbyri, who gave the seven great bells belonging
to the church ; he died anno 1335.
KNIGHT OF SOMERSET.
"MyoB PRO PANE MICANDO" (5th S. i. 167, 233)
is something for crumbling bread, of course, but
what is the English word 1 J. T. F.
Hatfield Hall, Durham.
BAR SINISTER (5th S. i. 268.) — It is not quite
clear from MR. OAKLEY'S letter whether he merely
means to fall foul of what he very justly calls the
ridiculous expression of bar sinister, or whether he
would really raise the question of how such a baton
comes to denote illegitimacy. If the former be
the case, there is surely little difficulty in con-
ceiving, without going about to find any other
meaning for " bar," how that word may be diverted
from its legitimate heraldic sense, and be loosely
applied to what is strictly a "baton." If the
latter, it may assist MR. OAKLEY'S researches to
remember what I think he will find in most good
treatises on heraldry, and certainly in Mr. Thomp-
son's in the Encyclopaedia Metropolitana (v. 617),
that the baton is but a single instance (though the
only one in use) of the " abatements," or marks of
disgrace, which were, or might be, introduced into
coats. I must not take up " N. & Q.'s" space with
the whole list, which may be found at the above
reference ; but as examples, an escutcheon reversed
belongs to him who uncourteously treats a Hdy,
and a point champain to one who slays a prisoner
of war.
While we are on this subject, it may also be
noted that the bordure is also used as a mark of
illegitimacy, as in the arms of the Dukes of Beau-
fort and Richmond, and of Tufton, Erskine, Coote,
and Bertie, baronets, the last now extinct.
CHARLES F. S. WARREN, M.A.
JOHN TOBIN (5th S. i. 248.)— The following is
from the Era Almanack for the present year : —
" The Honeymoon is the only production of Tobin that
has held a place on the stage, and was first acted on the
31st of January, 1805, the author not living to witness its
representation and subsequent success. This comedy was
the last of fourteen dramatic productions, twelve of
which Tobin himself offered only to have rejected,
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having laboured in vain for thirteen years. The Faro
Table (1789), The Curfew (1807), The School for Authors
(1808), are the only plays by Tobin, in addition to The
Honeymoon, that are mentioned in Watt's Bibliotheca
JBritannica, and in the Biographia Dramatica ; but, be-
sides these, he is known to have written The Gypsy of
Madrid (1794), The Tragedy, a Fragment ; The Fisher-
man, The Reconciliation, The Undertaker, Attraction,
All's Fair in Love, together with some minor pieces,
titles unknown."
T. W. TYRRELL.
HERALDIC (5th S. i. 188.)— The family of La
Vienville bears argent, 6 holly leaves ppr. 3, 2,
and 1, but no burning mountains. The coat de-
scribed by MR. BETTS does not occur in the list of
French Marquises in Segoing, 1660.
NEPHRITE.
THE LIFE OF PAUL SARPI (5th S. i. 243.)—
Permit *me to add to MR. JAMES'S interesting
memoir the punning remark said to have been
made by the Padre respecting his attempted assas-
sination : " Conosco lo stilo Romano ! "
W. J. BERNHARD SMITH.
Temple.
PENN PEDIGREE (5th S. i. 129.)— William Penn
the founder, in his will dated 1712, bequeathed all
his English and Irish estates to William Penn, Jr.,
his only surviving son by his first wife, Gulielma
Maria Springett. This son died in France in 1720,
leaving issue, Springett, Gulielma Maria, and
William. Springett died young ; Gulielma
married Charles Fell, Esq. ; and the Irish estate
passed, through Christiana Gulielma, the daughter
of the third William, who married Gaskill in
1761, to Thomas Penn Gaskill, of Philadelphia, in
1824. GASTON DE BERNE VAL.
Philadelphia, U.S.
[Wilks, the celebrated actor (06. 1732), a year after the
death of his first wife, married, in 1715, " the widow Fell,
daughter of Charles II. 's great gun-founder, Browne . . .
Wilks's step-son, Fell, married the grand-daughter'of
William Penn, and brought his bride to the altar of St.
Paul's, Covent Garden, not to be married, but christened.
Wilks and his wife were the gossips to the pretty
Quakeress, and the actor, probably, never looked more
imposing than when he pronounced the names of the
fair episcopalian — Gulielma Maria." — Their Majesties'
Servants, vol. i. p. 440.]
JOHN STUART MILL (5th S. i. 267.)— J. H.'s
" dim recollection " of having read some announce-
ment concerning Mr. Mill's unpublished views on
religious questions was, probably, derived from a
paragraph which appeared several months ago in
the Scotsman, It was stated in that journal that
Mr. Mill, in a posthumous essay on Theism, " ap-
pears to have reached the point of admitting that
certain ideas with regard to the Deity and the
immortality of the soul were probable, and even
highly probable " ; but it was added that the dis-
tinguished writer did not arrive at any absolute
conclusion on the subject. It is also said that the
three essays which Mr. Mill has left behind him
(i. e. The Utilitarianism of Religion, Nature, and
Theism) will be published in the course of the
present year. F. W. CHESSON.
Lambeth Terrace.
MORTIMER'S " HISTORY OF ENGLAND " (5th S. i.
268.) — My copy of this work, which is dedicated
to Queen Charlotte, contains a list of about four
hundred subscribers from all parts of England,
evidently procured by travelling canvassers, who
delivered the numbers as they were issued, which
in this case contained each twelve folio pages, and
perhaps a plate, at, no doubt, the usual cost of 6d.,
paid on delivery. This mode of publication was
useful in its day, but the works thus issued were
of little or no authority.
In A Catalogue of 500 Celebrated Authors of
Great Britain now Living (Lond., Faulder, 1788)
occurs the following notice : —
"Mortimer, Thomas, a veteran labourer in the field of
literature. He is the author of the British Plutarch, or
Lives of the most Illustrious Personages of Great Britain
from the Accession of King Henry the Eighth, originally
printed in twelve, and since in six volumes duodecimo.
He has since written the Student's Pocket Dictionary of
History, &c., in one vol. duodecimo ; Every one his own
Broker, in one vol. duodecimo ; and Elements of Com-
merce, Politics, and Finance, in one vol. quarto. In
1784 he translated Necker on the Finances of France,
under the patronage of the Marquis of Lansdown."
There is no allusion here to the Commercial
Dictionary of which J. R. M'Culloch writes, 1832 :
" In 1766 a Commercial Dictionary was published in
two rather thin folio volumes, by Thomas Mortimer,
Esq., at that time Vice-Consul for the Netherlands.
This is a more commodious and better arranged, but not
a more valuable, work than that of Postlethwayt. The
plan of the author embraces, like that of his predecessors,
too great a variety of objects ; more than half the work
being filled with geographical articles, and articles de-
scribing the processes carried on in different departments
of manufacturing industry; there are also articles on
very many subjects, such as architecture, the natural
history of the ocean, the land-tax, the qualifications of
surgeons, &c., the relation of which to commerce, navi-
gation, or manufactures, it seems difficult to discover."
According to the Brief Biographical Dictionary,
Mortimer was born in 1730, and died Dec., 1809.
[In the Biographical Dictionary of Living
Authors (1816) there is a notice of his son, Captain
George Mortimer, of the Marines, as the author of
" Observations " during a voyage in the South
Seas and elsewhere, in the brig " Mercury," com-
manded by J. H. Cox, Esq., 1791.]
S. H. HARLOWE.
SL John's Wood.
P.S. It seems strange that the only notice of
this " veteran labourer in the field of literature "
in Lowndes (Bohn's edit. p. 1619) is of " a Com-
mercial Dictionary, new edit. 8vo. 1823," which
M'Culloch had previously alluded to in his Preface
as having been published in 1810, but with which
Mortimer had little or nothing to do ; and, whether
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founded upon Mortimer's folio work or not, M'Cul-
loch speaks of it as being almost worthless. Neither
is there any mention of Thomas Mortimer, or any
of his works, in the notices of books, in the two
series of indexes to the Gentleman's Magazine from
1731 to 1818.
THOMAS FRYE (5th S. i. 269.)— In the list of
deaths given in the Gentleman's Magazine for 1762
is the following : " April 3. Mr. Frye, a very in-
genious painter in Hatton Garden." A list of his
works is given in Nagler's Kilnstler Lexicon, vol.
iv. p. 514-15. J. C.
KENNEDY FAMILY (3rd S. ii. 466.)— It is stated
in Wood's Douglas, sub voce " Cassillis," that the
double tressure was borne by the name of Kennedy
prior to the marriage of Sir James to Mary, daughter
of Robert III. of Scotland. However this may be,
on the seal of James her son, Bishop of St. Andrews,
1440 to 1466, are two shields, one Kennedy with-
out, and the other Kennedy within, the tressure.
On his half-brother Patrick Graham's seal, who
succeeded him in the see (1466 to 1478), a similar
arrangement occurs, there being two shields of
Graham, one without and one with tressure.
Casts of the seals are shown in the College of St.
Salvador at St. Andrews. GEORGE SKIPTON.
FULLER'S " PISGAH SIGHT " (5th S. i. 203, 271.)
— Paroyall of Armies. — A pair-royal at cribbage,
and some other games at cards, means three cards
of the same denomination, as three aces, three
queens, and the like. It is, therefore, suitably
applied to the armies of the Three Kings.
HENRY H. GIBBS.
St. Dunstan's, Kegent's Park.
COWPER : TROOPER (5th S. i. 68, 135, 272.)—
My mother passed six or seven years of her child-
hood at Linford, near Olney, and had a vivid re-
collection of the poet, the greater part of whose
works she knew by heart. I believe that her ad-
miration was founded on his having twice gathered
some flowers for her, and his kind way of speaking.
She never heard his name pronounced otherwise
than Cooper, there or elsewhere, till long after she
was married, and was surprised when first she
heard him called Cowper. H. B. C.
TJ. U. Club.
MARMITE (5th S. i. 209,275.)— The article wanted
is probably " On Mediaeval Tripod Cooking Pots or
Marmites," in the Builder of 7th May, 1870.
G. LAURENCE GOMME.
THE ACACIA IN FREEMASONRY (4th S. xii. 209,
314, 436; 5* S. i. 57, 197.)— There is an objection
to DR. DIXON'S theory besides the fact that the
Robinia does not grow in Palestine, viz., that all
ordinary masonry, Blue Masonry, St. John's
Masonry, which ever you please to call it, is non-
Christian; I mean that the Gospel History is not
referred to in its ceremonies. I expect the Acacia
was taken as an emblem of that a/caKta which
distinguishes the true and worthy brother, and of
which it is merely the English spelling. No doubt
it has also a reference to the masonic legend, which
I am unable to put in print. The " Hauts Grades"
of the " A and A Rite " are Christian, which may
account for the passage quoted by DR. DIXON, but
such interpretation of the symbolic Acacia is ob-
viously a secondary one. R.
THE GOTHIC FLORIN (5* S. i. 109, 175.)— I
suspect that W. B. really does not mean a florin at
all, but the Gothic crown, which is only to be found
in the cabinets of collectors, never having been in
circulation. It was struck in 1847, being intended
to take the place of the present crown, but, #fter a
certain number of pieces had been struck, the die
broke ; and the expense of engraving it having
been enormous, the project was abandoned rather
than that the cost of another die should be incurred.
I cannot state the number of pieces struck before
the die broke, but my impression is that it was
about 120. The Gothic crown is one of the most
beautiful coins ever minted ; in fact, I have been
told that only one ever surpassed it, and that is a
coin of Dionysius the Younger, of Syracuse. I am
not numismatist enough to know whether I have
been rightly informed — " I say the tale as 'twas
said to me " ; and if there be any mistake in what
I have stated above, I shall be glad to have it
corrected. As to prices, I bought my own specimen
(a very fine one) for 16s., and I have been asked
two pounds for one much inferior to it.
HERMENTRUDE.
I have heard this called the graceless florin, and
have been told that the omission of " D. G." was
intentional, the then Master of the Mint having
been a Catholic. Can any one corroborate or deny
this ] JAMES BRITTEN.
AMERICAN WORTHIES (4th S. xii. 309, 375, 436,
460, 504.) — MR. EDWARDS speaks of Gov. James
Jackson, of Georgia, forgetting that the query
regarded Gen. Andrew Jackson, who was the
seventh President of the United States, was born
of Irish parentage in South Carolina, March 15,
1767, and died June 8, 1845. Gen. Jackson was
popularly known as the " Hero of New Orleans,"
and familiarly as "Old Hickory," his memory
being held in especial regard by the American
people as one of the four of their Presidents who
were most distinguished for vital patriotism.
Besides what has been already noted on the sub-
ject, it may be added that Alexander Hamilton
was President Washington's Secretary of the Trea-
sury, and is esteemed to have been the greatest
of American financiers. Henry, or Harry Clay,
as he was universally called, was an unsuccessful
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candidate for the Presidency, as was also Daniel
Webster and Gen. Winfield Scott. During the
Litter's candidateship the nickname of " Fuss and
feathers " was given him by his political opponents,
the appellation of the " Hero of Lundy's Lane "
having been acquired by him when comparatively
a young man. Webster was known as the " Great
Expounder," and, by reason of his swarthy com-
plexion, as " Black Dan." Jefferson is styled the
" Father of the Constitution " ; Commodore Perry,
the " Hero of Lake Erie." Edwin M. Stanton,
however, had no characteristic title bestowed on
him, but the writing of his name suggests one of
the most sententious letters on record. This was
written by Charles Sumner to Mr. Stanton at the
time President Johnson asked for his (Stanton's)
resignation as Secretary of War, and contained
simply the word " Stick ! " J. M. LEWIN.
Boston, Mass., U.S.A.
The following dates will answer the original
inquiry so far as I can do so with exactness : —
Daniel Webster. Lawyer, born Jan. 18, 1782, died Oct.
24, 1852.
Winfield Scott, Lawyer and Warrior, born June 13,
1786, died May 29, 1866.
Alexander Hamilton, Lawyer, &c., born Jan. 11, 1757,
died July 12, 1804.
Oliver Hazard Perry, Commodore, U.S.N., born Aug.
23, 1785, died Aug. 23, 1819.
Henry Clay, Lawyer, born April 12, 1777, died June
29, 1852.
Andrew Jackson, Lawyer, born March 15, 1767, died
June 8, 1845.
Thomas Jefferson, Lawyer, born April 2, 1743, died
July 4, 1826.
Edwin M. Stanton, Lawyer, born Dec. 19, 1814, died
Dec. 24, 1869.
Manuel Belgrano, Statesman and Soldier, died 1820.
Jose de San Martin, flourished 1811-22 in Chili and
Peru, and subsequently removed to Europe.
GASTON DE BERNEVAL.
Philadelphia, U.S.A.
" LE GAFFE", ou L'ECOSSAISE" (5th S. i. 50, 114,
216.) — I am obliged for the correction of my errors
respecting the authorship of this comedy. In
reference to the original question, it may be added
that L'tfcossaise was translated by G. Colman,
and brought out at Drury Lane in 1767 with con-
siderable success, under the name of The English
Merchant. It is open to doubt whether Voltaire
confounded John Home (the author of Douglas)
and John Hume (of Ninewells) in ignorance or by
design. In writing against another of the name,
Henry Home (Lord Kames), he speaks of him as
Mr. John Home. Two questions occur to me in
connexion with this subject, namely, what writings
of John Hume, of Ninewells, were published ? and
what relation was he to the author of Douglas ?
The common statement, that the relationship was
very distant, because of the difference in the names,
is not of much weight, if, as Burke states, David
Hume's grandfather was John Home, of Ninewells.
On the other hand, David Hume, writing to
Spence (Anecdotes, p. 448), speaks of the author of
Douglas " a young man called Hume, a clergyman
of this country, discovers a very fine genius," and
praises his Agis, but does not even mention his
Douglas. EDWARD SOLLY.
OWEN GLENDWR (5th S. i. 188, 234.)— The best
account is to be found in the Appendix to Pen-
nant's Tour in Wales. IGNOTUS.
SHERIFFS OF WORCESTERSHIRE (5th S. i. 149,
218.) — A list of these will be found in The
Heraldry of Worcestershire. Mr. Vernon died
during his year of office, when Sir Thomas Phillipps,
Bart., was appointed in his room. H. S. G.
" KINGLEADER " (5* S. i. 146, 217, 256.)— Did
this word come from the game of curling, and is it
the same as rink-leader ? According to Jamieson
(sub " lead ") there is an .officer in curling who is
styled " Master of the Rinks " (see also Jamieson,
sub "rink"). I hazard the conjecture.
JOHN ADDIS.
"THAT BEATS AKEBO" (5th S. i. 148, 255.)—
Hotten's Slang Dictionary (edition 1865) gives
"Akeybo, a slang phrase used in the following
manner : — ' He beats Akeybo, and Akeybo beat
the devil.' " I know nothing of Akeybo, but from
Hotten's proverb I should take him to be some
hero who had outwitted Satan. JOHN ADDIS.
" NOR" FOR " THAN" (4th S. xii. 388, 502; 5«> S.
i. 12, 53, 119.)— This usage appears to be still more
common elsewhere than in Gloucestershire. It is
so in Staffordshire; and in illustration of this I may
give an extract from Adam Bede, the scene of
which is probably laid in that county. The passage
occurs in the early part of chap, v., and is spoken
by Joshua Kann the Sexton: " I hanna slep more
nor four hour this night as is past an' gone"; where
it will be observed that the condition and style of
the interlocutor do not tend to disprove LORD
LYTTELTON'S allegation that the phrase is obsolete
among the best-educated class. I have myself
heard it in Cambridgeshire, but cannot undertake
to say that it is commonly used there. It may,
however, claim to be allied to classical usage, since
or and than are represented alike by rj in Greek.
W. B. C.
DR. ISAAC BARROW, MASTER OF TRINITY (5th
S. i. 69, 196, 237.)— I have no pedigree; in fact,
nothing beyond an extract or two somewhere
among hundreds of others. If G. F. B. will send
me a copy of the Chester pedigree he refers to, I
may, as I digest my heaps of material, be able
to add something to it. There is a township and
manor of Barrow near Frodsham. Is there any
such in Suffolk or Gloucester ? H. T.
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5th 8. 1. APRIL 18, 74.
MUSEUMS AND NATURAL HISTORY SOCIETIES
(5th S. i. 169, 216.) — The most complete enumera-
tion of these is that given by Sir Walter Elliot in
the Transactions of the Botanical Society of Edin-
burgh for 1871. About a hundred and twenty
Field Clubs and Natural History Societies are
there enumerated, and much information about
each is given. The indexes of Nature should also
be consulted. JAMES BRITTEN.
SIR THOMAS STRANGEWAYS (5th S. i. 127, 194.)
— The dates so obligingly furnished by HERMEN-
TRUDE of the marriages of Sir Thomas Strangeways
and Sir John Widville show clearly that the lady's
marriage with John, first Viscount Beaumont, was
between the two just named, as he was slain at
Northampton 10th July, 1460. If HERMENTRUDE'S
doubt as to this marriage is founded only on her
finding no trace of a grant of marriage or pardon
for unlicensed marriage, surely this is no uncommon
case. According to Dugdale (Bar. ii. 53), the
husband of Katherine, daughter of Thomas' de
Everingham, was not Viscount Beaumont, who was
only fifteen years old at the date of her inquisition,
but another John, his grandfather. My authority
for the marriage of the Duchess of Norfolk
(Katherine Neville) with Viscount Beaumont was
derived from a number of documents cited in Mr.
Stapleton's Preface to the Liber de Antiquis Legi-
bus, pp. ccvi. et seq., from which it appears that
she held in dower the inheritance of William,
second Viscount Beaumont, which was confiscated,
and portions granted to various persons, subject to
her life estate, and, among others, to Joan, her
daughter, by Sir Thomas Strangeways. Does not
the pardon for unlicensed marriage contain some
description of him which would give a clue to his
family and arms ? J. F. M.
"MISTAL" (5th S. i. 149, 199), a German or
Gotho-Teutonic compound, might translate " dung-
place or stall." Wachter renders mist " stercus et
sterquilinium (Goth., maihst; A.S., mixen, myx,
meox ; Franc., mist; Belg., mest, mist] "; and the
A.S. st(el is = locus. E. S. CHARNOCK.
Gray's Inn.
MR. FALLOW must have been quoting from an
early edition of Halli well's Dictionary. I do not
find "mirsel" in either the 1865 or the 1872
editions, but in both Mr. Halliwell gives " Missel,
a cow-house. Yorkshire."
SPARKS HENDERSON WILLIAMS.
A cow-house ; probably from the Anglo-Saxon
meox, dung, and stall, a stall. See Atkinson's
Glossary of the Cleveland Dialect, p. 339.
EDWARD PEACOCK.
" EMBOSSED " (4th S. xi. xii. passim ; 5th S. i.
55, 172, 278.)— If F. J. V. could have quoted
Shakspeare himself, instead of Beaumont and
Fletcher, it would have been more convincing.
Though Shakspeare very frequently uses the
word " case," does he ever do so, even in a single
instance, otherwise than in its direct and plain
signification? Is not the All's Well that Ends
Well passage the only exception, if it is one ; and
do not " exceptions prove the rule"?
GEORGE K. JESSE.
"SELE": " WHAM" (5th S. i. 228, 276.)— Sele
comes from selio, and means, I feel no doubt,
arable land, or land that has, at some time, been
arable. Du Cange gives " Selio, Sellis, Modus agri,
forte ex Gallico Seillon, Lira, porca, arula." Coke
on Littleton says, " By the grant of a Selion of
land, Selio teme, a ridge of land which containeth
no certainty, for some be greater, and some be
lesser." Spelman explains it, " agri portios, sulcos
aliquot non certos continens ; Anglis aliis, a sticks,
of land, aliis a selion, aliis a ridge." As to the
origin of the term, Du Cange says : —
" Non absurda certe est vocis originatio, quae modo ex
Scriptoribus Anglicanis proponebatur ; at mihi verosi-
milior videtur quse a Gallico Siller, secare, deducitur :
adeo ut Selio, modus fit agri, quantum scilicet unus Sector
per diem Secare potest."
Looking, however, at the documents in which
the word occurs, among which those cited by Mr.
Dobson are very much to the point, I certainly
take it to mean a kind, not a measure, of land, as
Du Cange would have it. For, in the first place,
what one man could cut, by reaping or mowing,
" 12 acres 3 roods," or even " 7i acres," of corn or
grass in a single day ? Then the expressions " lie
in le seele," and " in quadani cultura quse dicitur
le sele," cannot possibly, to my thinking, refer to
measurement, or to anything but the species of
tillage. I can give no information about wham.
EDMUND TEW, M.A.
NOTES ON BOOKS, &c.
Civitas Londinum. — Ralph A gas. A Survey of the Cities
of London and Westminster, the Borough of South-
wark, and Parts adjacent, in the Reign of Queen Eliza-
beth. Published, in Fac-simile, from the Original in
the Guildhall Library. With a Biographical Acco-mt
of Ralph Agas and a Critical and Historical Examina-
tion of the Work, and of the several so-called Repro-
ductions of it, by Vertue and others. By William
H. Overall, F.S.A. The Fac-simile by Edward J.
Francis. (Adams & Francis.)
MR. EDWARD FRANCIS has issued, through the above
publishers, a fac-simile of one of the rarest and most
interesting illustrations of London, namely, what is com-
monly called the map, but what is, in truth, a bird's-eye
view, of London in the reign of Elizabeth. The famous
and once costly map of Rn.lph Agas may now be had at a
reasonable price. The London of the time of the Tudor
Queen is, in a sense, revealed to the spectator. Streets,
buildings, open places, monuments, the meadows (now in
the heart of the metropolis, turned into streets), the
river in all its picturesqueness and glory, — all are ad-
mirably depicted. The eye can pass through the public
places where Shakspeare wilke and can cross the river
6th S. L AFRiLl8,74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
319
from the busy city to the rather riotous Bankside with
ease, pleasure, and, to the mind, profit. No letter-press
description of the old metropolis could convey any such
complete idea of the scene, as it was in 1560, as may be
gained here at a glance or two. With a little study, one
becomes a denizen of the Tudor capital, familiar with
every nook and corner of it, and, indeed, familiar also
with the country around it, which is now buried beneath
bricks and mortar. No praise could overstep the merits
of this work. There is nothing like it extant, by way of
illustration of how London looked above three centuries
ago. All who have any curiosity in so curious a matter- —
and to be " incurious would be a confession of love for
ignorance— should obtain this picture of our old capital.
It is more than six feet long by above two feet wide,
made to fold in a tasteful and appropriate wrapper, and
is fitted alike for library, drawing-room, or boudoir, for a
present to intelligent friends, and a prize for the most
distinguished pupils of both sexes, and, we might add, of
all ages.
Mary, Queen of Scots, and her Accusers. Embracing a
Narrative of Events from the Death of James V., in
1542, until the Death of Queen Mary, in 1587. By
John Hosack, Barrister-at-Law. Second Edition,
much enlarged. Vol. II. (Blackwood & Sons.)
MR. HOSACK'S defence of Mary Stuart is manly and im-
partial. It may not convince as many persons as he
would like to win over to his own way of thinking ; but
we the more especially recommend this work to the
perusal and study of those whose convictions are that
Mary was guilty in the cases alike of Rizzio and Darnley.
They, at least, will have before them all that can be
urged and pressed in her favour by one who grasps all
the threads of the eventful story, and who has no object
but to establish the truth. To accomplish this purpose,
Mr. Hosack is as honest as he is earnest; and, perhaps,
many a reader, hitherto sternly pronouncing the word
" Guilty ! " may feel trembling on his lips the words
"Not Proven." Since Mr. Hosack's first volume ap-
peared, he has found that the Queen was not legally
married to Bothwell. In Dunrobin Castle, Dr. John
Stuart has discovered a document,— nothing less than
the dispensation granted by Archbishop Hamilton for
the marriage, in 1566, of Bothwell with Lady Jane
Gordon, notwithstanding their cousinship. Marriage
being indissoluble by the canons of their church, the
marriage, in the fallowing year, with Mary, was no
marriage at all. This matter, however, has no bearing
on the main points. It only suggests suspicion of the
infamy of the Archbishop, if he withheld from Mary all
knowledge of the dispensation. If he informed Mary,
there is one blot the more on the character of this un-
fortunate woman.
The Norman People and their existing Descendants in
the British Dominions and the United States of America.
(H. S. King & Co.)
THIS is a very singular work, the object of which is to
prove that the Norman settlement at the conquest of
England " consisted of something more than a slight in-
fusion of a foreign element ; that it involved the addition
of a numerous and mighty people, equalling, probably, a
moiety of the conquered population ; that the people
thus introduced has continued to exist without merger or
absorption in any other race ; that, as a race, it is as dis-
tinguishable now as it was a thousand years since ; and
that, at this hour, its descendants may be counted by
tens of millions in our country and the United States."
Such a work commends itself to very many of the readers
of 'I N. & Q." interested in genealogical and ethnological
subjects. In the catalogue of names, which takes up a
great portion of this original volume, Shakspeare is de-
duced from the Sake-espee of Normandy ; the Smiths,
from the Fabers or Lefevres ; and even the Goldsmiths
are elevated from their Saxon atmosphere to the Nor-
man empyrean of the Aurifabers. In similar way, the
Normans are made to invade and conquer Dane, Saxon,
and Angle again. We do not accept the consequences to
their full extent, but we can cordially recommend the
volume as one which is emphatically " extraordinary."
The Sacred Anthology. A Book of Ethnical Scriptures.
Collected and Edited by Moncure Daniel Conway.
(Trubner & Co.)
"THE utterance does not wholly perish which many
peoples utter ; nay, this is the voice of God ! " It is
such utterances that Mr. Conway has collected : he could
not have been better employed ; and to thousands of
persons who manifest their discipleship by following
out the injunction "Love one another!" this volume
will be a welcome and cherished book. The utterances
gathered from the religious aspirations of all nations are
proofs of how all men have thirsted after knowledge of
God, and how eager they have been to obey his laws.
One is in love with a general humanity, which convinces
us how, along various ways, men have been pressing for-
ward to the same shrine.
THE LAST EARL OF DERWENTWATER. — The following
account was recently taken down from the lips of a lady
nearly a hundred years of age, and communicated to the
Hexham Herald : — " About seventy years ago, my sister,
a young surgeon, and myself went to see the remains of
the Earl, my father being on very friendly terms with the
keeper of Dilston. We went off to Dilston and entered
the vault. The upper portion of the coffin, which was of
lead, was cut away. This was removed, and we were
shown the head of the Earl, looking just as fresh as
though it had been put in yesterday. The features wore
a tranquil look. The young surgeon who was with us
then lifted the head out. I did not observe that the neck
was jagged, as I have heard it said. Having lifted the
head out, he pulled out one of the teeth and gave it to
me, and he also gave another to my sister. The tooth I
got had on it a liquid which resembled blood, and which
stained my finger and thumb, so that I went to a stream
running past the place and had them washed. The
doctor did not require any pincers to take out the teeth,
as he easily drew them with his hand. I believe there
were three cofiins, one lead and the others of wood. I
did not see any one else get anything when we were there.
I noticed there were two coffins in the vault, said to con-
fine the remains of the Miss Radcliffes, which were in a
sad condition, part of the bodies being fully exposed to
view, the lead having been stolen. A great many of the
silver nails were stolen out of the coffin of the Earl of
Derwentwater. The coffin and vault were closed the
day after we left, and I learned that the appearance of
the Earl was much altered on the second day. This is a
correct statement of my memorable visit."
" ENGLISH PLANT-NAMES." — MR. BRITTEN, of the
British Museum, writes : — " The collection of English
plant-names, which has occupied the attention of Mr.
Holland and myself for several years, is at length in a
sufficiently complete state to warrant publication ; and
we are now preparing it for the English Dialect Society,
under whose auspices it will be published. May I,
therefore, urge upon all correspondents of ' N. & Q.,'
who have already promised, or forwarded lists, to send
them, or any additional names, to myself, or to Mr.
Robert Holland, of Mobberley, Knutsford ? £is dat qui
cito dat."
" KING EDWARD THE THIRD."— What Capell suggested,
more than a hundred years ago, MR. J. PAYNE COLLIER
now earnestly affirms, namely, that the above historical
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
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drama (" sundrie timed plaied about the Citie of London,"
and printed in 1596) is, undoubtedly, an early play by
Shakspeare. MR. COLLIER has written an interesting
pamphlet on the subject. Here is one of the various
passages in this noble play, which are quoted by MR.
COLLIER as self-evidently of Shakspeare's own mint.
Edward thus speaks of the noble and virtuous Countess
of Salisbury : —
" When she would talk of peace, methinks her tongue
Commanded war to prison ; when of war,
It waken'd Caesar from his Roman grave
t To hear war beautified by her discourse.
Wisdom is foolishness but in her tongue;
Beauty, a slander but in her fair face :
There is no summer but in her cheerful looks,
Nor frosty winter, but in her disdain."
Of the above MK. COLLIER says, "the genius of Shak-
speare alone could have produced them."
"AURIGNY'S ISLE" (5th S. i. 268, 300.)— MR. A. O. M.
JAY writes :— " Aurigny and Alderney are names derived
from the Latin Aurinia or Arinia. In the year 1027 the
island was called Arino, in 1122 Alreno, in 1203 Aurene,
and in 1400 Aurne. Origny is another way of spelling it."
MR. EDGAR MACCULLOCH informs us further that —
" In Guernsey, of which it is a dependency, the word is
usually written Auregny, but it is pronounced Aureny by
the people of all the Channel Islands; and there is every
reason to believe that this is the correct form. In early
records the name appears as Aureny, Aureneye, Aurene,
&c. In a charter of Queen Elizabeth it is called Aureneye
alias Alderney. It is difficult to account for this English
corruption of the name ; but igny is such a common
termination of names of places in Normandy, that it is
not to be wondered at that the French should have made
the change from Aureny to Aurigny."
" THE GREAT TRIAL AT BAR," in the April number of
The Gentleman's Magazine (Grant & Co.), — a periodical
which has vigorously begun a new life, — should be added
to all collections which illustrate the infamous Orton
Conspiracy. It is a preliminary chapter to the secret
history of the trial itself, and is full of the most curious
matter. The author, Mr. Moy Thomas, furnished the
resumes of each day's proceedings, which were so much
more interesting than the verbal report of the trial
itself, in the Daily News.
"LA TENTATION DE SAINT ANTOINE." — For twenty
years the public have been waiting for this work of M.
Gustave Flaubert. It is out at last. The subject is
treated in an Entirely original way. Among the grander
descriptions, there is one of Alexandria, of unsurpassable
power, picturesqueness, and magnificence.
THE SECRET POLITICAL HISTORY OF THE REIGN OF ISA-
BELLA II. OF SPAIN is in course of progress by an eminent
Spanish writer and politician. The details, curious in
themselves, will carefully avoid mere personal history.
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M. T. — The search in the index to Walpole's Letters
was, no doubt, useless. The incident was of a much
later period. It is recorded in a letter from Scrope Davis
to Raikes, dated " Dunquerque, Dec. 13th, 1837. Bob
Bligh, when travelling with the Marquis of Ely through
the Highlands, turned the Marquis out of his own car-
riage, because he did not know who was the mother of
Queen Elizabeth." See Private Correspondence of
Thomas Raikes with the Duke of Wellington, and other
Distinguished Contemporaries. Edited by his Daughter,
Harriet Raikes. (Bentley, 1861.)
ALEX. LEEPKR, D.D. (Dublin). — The wooden bridge
at Henley was replaced, in 1786, by the present one of
Headington stone, which is adorned with sculptured
masks of the Thames and the Isis, by the Hon. Mrs.
Darner, daughter of Gen. Conway, of Park Place. Con-
sult Mr. Murray's Handbook for Berks, Bucks, and
Oxfordshire.
W. A. C. (Glasgow) asks for the name of the author of
the lines quoted by Professor Huxley in his installation
address, as Lord Rector of the University of Aberdeen,
and commencing —
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Then cast no backward glance toward the past," &c.
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the offer was accepted by the editor, but I do not find
that MR. IRELAND has favoured us with the promised
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Catharine of Sienna, Virgin, in Alban Butler's Lives of
the Saints. Her festival is celebrated on the 30th of
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LONDON, SATURDAY, APRIL 25, 1874.
CONTENTS.— N° 17.
NOTES:— "Opus Questionum Divi Augustini," 321— Newton's
" Axiomata sive Leges Motus "—Charles I. as a Poet, 322 —
Jottings in By- Ways, 323 — Folk-Lore, 324— Devonshire
Superstition— The Gipsies— Gipsy Native Names— Epitaph
— Ancient Representation of York Minster, 325 — Parallel
Passages— America = the Unknown— Curious Inscription —
Madame de Stael, 326.
QUERIES:— "The Egg and the Halfpenny," 326— "As Clean
as a Clock"— Marshal Ney— East India Docks— " Stretcht
along like a wounded knight" — How to Deal with a
Cucumber— War Medals— Chapman Gill, 327 — " Les Pro-
vinciales ; or, the Mystery of Jesuitisme," &c. — "Vacation" :
a Poem— Palliser's Hell—" Ecclesiastical Gallantry ; or, the
Mystery Unravelled," &c. — Justice Waterton — W. C.
Oulton — Shaddongate — Colle — Anna Tanaquil Fabri
Filia — Henry's "History of England" — The Prince of
Wales's Je Ne Sc.ais Quoi Club— British Museum— "The
Gentle Craft "—Freemasonry in Canterbury Cathedral, 328 —
Sterne : Rigby— Fanny : Frances— Bishop Wren, of Ely —
The Faroe Islands — John, Lord Wells, temp. Richard II.
— Heraldic— Early Days of the Late Duke of Wellington
— " Plagal "—George Sutherland of Force, 329.
REPLIES :— Conyngham Family, 329— English Surnames, 330
— The Earliest Advertisement — " Raffle," 331 — Arithmetic :
Casting out Nines—" Crack," 332— Scottish Titles— Simpson
& Co.— Knock Fergus, 333— The Date of Greene's " Mena-
phon " — Marshal Massena — Engraved Outlines — Eccen-
tricities of Nomenclature— " Mathematicall Recreations" —
The Tonsure — "La Vie du General Dumouriez," 334 — " Notes
on the Four Gospels " — Briar-root Pipes— Massinger —
Parallel Passages — ' ' Letters on Mr. Hume's History of
Great Britain " — " The Forging of the Anchor" — Bere
Regis Church— Curious Coin or Token—" Calling out loudly
for the Earth "—The Wakon Bird, 335— The Waterloo and
Peninsular Medals — Heraldic — Jay : Osborne — Use of In-
verted Commas, 336— Register Books Stamped—" Simpson "
— "All Lombard Street to a China Orange" — Old Metrical
Title Deeds— Welsh Language, 337 — Wayneclowtes : Plogh
Clowtes— " Mittitur in disco," <fec. — Swans, 338.
Notes on Books, &.C.
« OPUS QUESTIONUM DIVI AUGUSTINI."
A folio volume, bearing the above title, has re-
cently corne into my possession, of which the colo-
phon runs as follows : " Impressuni est autem hoc
opus Lugduni : opera et | impensis. M. Joannis
Trechsel alemanni : anno | salutis nostre Millesimo
quadringentesimo | nonagesiino septimo. vii. Kaleu1
Maias." Then comes the printer's mark.
From the authorities which I have been able to
consult, this edition appears to be little known
and it possesses some peculiar features of interest
which I will proceed to describe.
The work consists of 285 folios, without pagina-
tion or catchwords. It is printed with Gothic type
in double columns, fifty-five lines to a full column, be-
sides the running title. The signatures run from
a. to s., A. to G., Aa. to Pp. ; Mm., Nn., and Oo
being omitted, which is accounted for in the follow-'
ing curious " Peroratio," which immediately pre
cedes the colophon, and which I give verb- liter
and punctu- atim, except that the contractions are
expressed at length : —
" De operis complemento : efc ufc dicunt registro ad
magistrum nostrum : magistrum Petrum Gerardi: | prior
em conventus fratrum heremitarum parisiensium. | Pero
ratio. | Hec aunt magistrorum nostrorum optime : ma
gi | ster petre gerardi : que de questionibus divi patris '
Augustini : mulfco quidem labore parta tandem tuo j
lomini dicata emittimus : precantes omnes ea per | lec-
uros in partem accipiant bonam : veniamque dent : | si
•el pauciores questiones quam ipse sanctissimus | doctor
mgustinus confecit : vel has minus reco | gnitas emiseri-
mus. Pauculas enim deesse remur | atque eas duntaxat
[ue ad simplicianum mediolani | episcopum conscripte
suiit : quas hactenus reperire non potuimus | locum tamen
quo inseri possent reliquimus : trium quaternionum.
Hm. Nn. Oo. quern si vacantem dereli | quimus vitio
dandumnullusnisiinhumanuset | is calumniator censebit:
cum vel singula opera plena | sint : et seorsum emitti
jossint. Quevero errata | veremur : ejusmodi credimus
jue sine recogniti | one aut admonitione nostra facile
quivis depre | henderit ac emendaverit. Ne quia autem
chartarum | connectendarum seriern ignoret : et ob id
deesse quicquid | putet : hec series est. | a. b. c. . . . s.
A. B. C G. Aa. Bb LI. Pp. Quarum h. k.
q. r. G. et. LI. terne sunt : Pp. quine : relique autem
quaterne preter. Mm. Nn. et Oo. que (ut dixi) nondum im-
presse sunt."
Now, notwithstanding the worthy editor's de-
precatory observations, and even at the risk of in-
curring the serious charge of being "inhumanus
et is calumniator," I cannot refrain from remarking
that the reason he gives strikes me as irresistibly
funny. Fancy a modern editor of M.'s or N.'s
works skipping the enumeration o'f his pages from
page 150 to page 200, and then, at the end of the
volume, calling attention to the fact, and stating
that he has purposely done it, because some of his
author's treatises are not contained in his edition,
and he does not know where to find them ; but
that he hopes nobody will be so ill mannered or
scandalous as to make any remarks upon it ! Even
supposing M. Joannes Trechsel had hoped, while
the book was in printing, to recover the lost
treatises, and to be able to insert them in the
place left vacant for them, but found himself dis-
appointed, how, I may ask, could he possibly tell
how many pages would be required for them, and
that sheets Mm., Nn., and Oo. would just afford
the requisite space 1
The work proper ends thus : " Finis sex ques-
tionum divi aurelii augustini episcopi | contra
paganos ad deo gratias : et per conse | quens
totius hujus operis. Deo gratias." These final
suspiria of the grand old printer-reader-corrector-
editors (for, I suppose, they were often all these in
one, and, sometimes, also worked with their own
hands at the composing-stick and the press) over the
completion of their " magna opera," so magnifi-
cently and conscientiously and unselfishly carried
through, are often very touching, as well as ad-
mirable for their simple piety ; but they are not
without their ludicrous side, too, and one may well
imagine the sigh of relief with which, at the con-
clusion of some series of tomes more than usually
ponderous, both in matter and bulk, they would
"set up" the last word, and cry "Thank God !"
over it, with feelings near akin to those of a school-
boy let loose for a holiday.
My copy of the Opus Questionum contains two
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inscriptions, which are not without interest : the
one as a simple record of unselfishness, — "Unus
ex Libris francisci petit et Amicorum 1573 " ; the
other as affording a glimpse of the book's former
history and travels, showing how it found its way
back, in its 243rd year, over the Atlantic to its
birthplace, — "Le pere fabreti de la Compe de
jesus trouva ce livre a L'hopital de quebec en
Canada et en fit un present en 1740 au grand
Colege de lyon et fut extime 18 " ; but whether
that " 18 " stands for francs, or some other coin,
I cannot quite make out from the small and un-
certain mark that follows the figures. The binding
is apparently not older than the seventeenth century,
and has been re-backed and re-furbished quite re-
cently ; but there may still be traced on one side
an impressed shield-of-arms, bearing three cannons
fesse-wise, muzzles to sinister, and in chief three
roundles (cannon balls ?) ; the shield surmounted
by a mural crown ; no tinctures visible.
For any light upon John Trechsel and his works —
upon the earlier owner, whose autograph I have
copied — or upon the former resting-places of my
volume, as stated above, I shall be grateful. I
would also ask to whom, or rather, probably, to
what place or institution, do the arms described
appertain? H. A. S.
Breadsall, Derby.
NEWTON'S "AXIOMATA SIVE LEGES MOTUS."
In a pamphlet, entitled Mr. Herbert Spencer and
the " British Quarterly Review," the author appears
to credit Newton with, the doctrine that the laws
of motion are " knowable a priori " (pp. 313, 317,
325, 326). A reference to the well-known General
Scholium, at the end of the Principia, will, I think,
show clearly that this was not the opinion of New-
ton. He there distinctly states, in the following
words, that the laws of motion had been deduced
from phenomena, and rendered general by induction :
"In hac philosophia" (sc. experimentali) "proposi-
tiones deducuntur ex phsenomenis et redduntur
generales per inductionem. Sic .... et leges
motuum et gravitatis innotuerunt." Nor does he
add a word to show that, though these laws had been
thus discovered, he believed them to be a priori
truths ; this being exactly the place in which he
might have been expected to avow the belief that
they were, if he had held it. One of Mr. Spencer's
arguments in favour of attributing to Newton his
own view of the self-evidence of the laws of motion
is that Newton calls these laws "axioms" (pp.
325-6). In Newton's phraseology, however, the
word "axiom" certainly includes propositions,
which there is not only no reason for supposing that
he believed to be self-evident, but of which he has
left proofs, both experimental and demonstrative.
For example, he prefixes to the First Book of his
Opticks (Opticks, 3rd edit., London, 1721, pp.
5-15) eight propositions which he calls " Axioms."
Among these is the law of the constancy of the
ratio between the sines of the angles of incidence
and refraction (which is stated to be " either ac-
curately or very nearly" true). Of this " Axiom"
he completes the "experimental Proof" in Prop.
VI. of Book I. (Opticks, pp. 66-68), presuming that
the experiments of " late writers " had established
the law for " Kays which have a mean degree of
refrangibility " (p. 65). He adds (pp. 68-70) a
demonstration (deduced from a " supposition ")
which he takes " to be a very convincing Argu-
ment of the truth of this Proposition." A method
of proving the same law experimentally is de-
scribed in the Optical Lectures (Opera, ed. Horsley,
torn. iii. pp. 274-5). It is tolerably clear, there-
fore, that Newton did not regard this "Law of
Sines " as axiomatic. Yet he calls it an " axiom,"
and makes it, with other axioms, and with defini-
tions, the foundation of his work. Mr. Spencer
says (p. 326) that Newton does not call the laws
of motion "hypotheses." This is true of the
Principia. It is curious, however, that in the
tract De Motu Newton should apply this very title
" hypotheses " to the first and second laws (Rigaud,
Historical Essay on the First Publication of Sir
Isaac Neivton's Principia, Oxford, 1838, Appendix
No. 1). Mr. Spencer will, I trust, excuse me if I
say that he is not always as accurate as he ought
to be in his statement of dynamical principles.
Thus he says (p. 338) that he has " spoken of a
balanced system, like that formed by the sun and
planets, as having the ' peculiarity that, though the
constituents of the system have relative move-
ments, the system, as a whole, has no movement' " ;
and he complains of his reviewer for assuming, in
consequence of his use of the word " peculiarity,"
that he is " unaware that in a system of bodies
whose movements are not balanced, it is equally
true that the centre of gravity remains constant."
The phrase " remains constant " is of doubtful in-
terpretation. It may bear either the meaning
" remains at rest," or the meaning " remains in
uniform motion." Now the motion of the centre
of gravity of a " free " system of material particles
depends, not on the balance, or want of balance, of
the relative motion of the particles, but on the
resultant of the forces in action on those particles.
If that resultant be null or a couple, the motion of
the centre of gravity will be null or uniform, not
always null. If the resultant be a force, or a force
and a couple, the same motion will be necessarily
varied. FRANK SCOTT HAYDON.
Merton, Surrey.
CHAELES I. AS A POET.
That Charles Stuart, however weak and vacil-
lating, was a highly-educated man, even Mr. Car-
lyle himself, at the utmost height of his Cromwell
fever, would probably never have denied. The
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editor of the "Works of " King Charles the Martyr,"
in 1662, expressly says : —
" In his younger days, his pleasures were in riding,
and sometimes in breaking the great horse ; and he did
it so gracefully that he deserved that statue of brass
which did represent him on horseback. Besides this he
delighted in hunting, an active and stirring exercise to
accustom him to toils, and harden that body whose mind
abhorred the softness of Luxury."
Charles, the same writer adds, was an excellent
shot, and played well enough on the viol da gamba
to earn the praise of Playford, one of the best
music masters of the day. His reading, we
gather from Herbert's catalogue of his small
library in Carisbrooke Castle, consisted of the
works of Laud and Hooker, Hammond and
Bishop Andrews (his turn of mind being essentially
theological). In poetry, we guess from Milton's
animadversions on the pseudo Eikon Basilike,
that he was fond of Shakspeare's and Sir Philip
Sidney's works ; and in Herbert's list we find in-
cluded Fairfax's Tasso and Harrington's random
rendering of Ariosto. That Charles, like his
awkward-minded father, sometimes penned a
stanza, there is also certain proof. I have hitherto
only succeeded in meeting with three metrical
attempts of the Martyr's. Horace Walpole, in his
Royal and Noble Authors, quotes the following
most unequal stanzas, on the warrant of Bishop
Burnet. That they begin pretty well, but end
most detestably, I think my fellow readers will
ullow ; and I much fear that they were written
"by one of the worshippers of the " Martyr " : —
" Majesty in Misery; or an imploration to the King of
Kings ; written by his late Majesty King Charles the
First, in his Durance at Carisbroke Castle, 1648.
" Great Monarch of the World ! From whose arm springs
The Potency and Power of Kings ;
Record the royal woe, my sufferings.
Nature and Jaw, by thy divine decree,
(The only work of righteous loyalty)
With this dim diadem invested me ;
With it the sacred sceptre, purple robe,
Thy holy unction, and the royal globe ;
Yet I am levell'd with the life of Job.
The fiercest furies that do daily tread
Upon my grief, my grey discrowned head,
Are those that owe my bounty for their bread.
Tyranny bears the title of taxation,
Revenge and robbery are reformation,
Oppression gains the name of sequestration.
•Great Britain's heir is forced into France,
Whilst on his head his foes advance ;
Poor child ! he weeps out his inheritance.
With my own power my majesty they wound,
In the King's name the King himself s uncrown'd,
So doth the dust destroy the diamond.
My life they prize at such a slender rate,
That in my absence they draw bills of hate,
To prove the King a traitor to the state.
Felons attain more privilege than I,
They are allowed to answer ere they die ;
*Tis death to me to ask the reason why.
But, sacred Saviour ! with thy words I woo
Thee to forgive, and not be bitter to
Such as thou know'st do not know what they do.
Augment my patience, nullifie my hate,
Preserve my issue and inspire my mate ;
Yet, though we perish, bless this church and state.
Vota dabunt qua bella negarunt."
Mr. Seward says that Charles I. wrote the fol-
lowing lines on the blank leaf of a book in the
Trinity House, at Newport, in the Isle of Wight : —
" A coward 's still unsafe ; but courage knows
No other foe but him who doth oppose."
When Prince of Wales, Charles was matriculated of
the University of Oxford, and wrote under his name
in the matriculation book : —
" Si vis omnia subjicere, subjice te rationi."
The last poem of Charles, given by Nahum Tate
in his Miscellanea Sacra, 1698, is of far higher
merit : —
" Close thine eyes and sleep secure,
Thy soul is safe, thy body sure ;
He that guards thee, he that keeps,
Never slumbers, never sleeps.
A quiet conscience, in a quiet Breast,
Has only Peace, has only Rest ;
The Musick and the Mirth of Kings,
Are out of tune, unless she sings.
Then close thine eyes in Pea:e, and rest secure,
No sleep so sweet as thine, no Rest so sure ! "
On the whole, the King's verses are wildly
irregular, and serve only to still further prove
that there is certainly no royal road to Parnassus.
WALTER THORNBURY.
Abingdon Villas, Kensington.
JOTTINGS IN BY-WAYS,
in. — SPENSER'S HARPALTJS.
In Colin Clout's Come Home Again (1591),
Alexis says so great a shepherdess as Elizabeth,
who hath so many shepherds to sing her praises,
what can she care for thine, do they list not, or
are their pipes untuneable 1 —
"Ah nay, said Colin, neither so nor so,
For better shepherds be not under skie,
Nor better hable, when they list to blow
Their pipes aloud, her nature to glorifie.
There is good Harpalus, now woxen aged
In faithful service of faire Cynthia :
And there is Corydon, though meanly waged,
Yet hablest wit of most I know this day.
And there is sad Alcyon, bent to mourne," &c.
Malone thought that Harpalus was Churchyard,
because, in Tothill's Miscellany, to which Church-
yard had contributed some two or three pieces,
there was a poem m which Harpalus addressed
Phillida, and because Churchyard was " a servant
of Queen Elizabeth" and, in 1591, an old man.
Others, however, think " Phillida " beyond Church-
yard's range ; and Mr. Collier has shown that, in
his writings, he speaks of himself as the Palemon
of Spenser's poem. Malone's conjecture, therefore,
is only an example of how one may be misled by
coincidences. Mr. Collier, in his turn, suggests
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Lord Buckhurst, apparently because he was a
faithful servant of the Queen, and because, in 1590,
he was aged fifty-five ; that is, there are alleged
in his favour two out of the three coincidences that
misled Malone. But the intent of Spenser to in-
troduce in the above-quoted passage the names,
not of all, nor even of some, of his contemporary
poets, but only of two or three of those who
had specially sung the praises of Elizabeth, has
been overlooked. Indeed, .as Ealeigh, whose poems
were chiefly addressed to the Queen, is mentioned
elsewhere, and as Spenser alludes to the other
claims of Alcyon-Gorges, it is probable that Alexis's
question was intended to allow the mention of
Harpalus (perhaps, too, of Corydon) as one whose
chief claims as a singer rested on his praises of the
Queen. Lord Buckhurst may have written such,
but nothing is known of them, and he did write as
Thomas Sackville the " Induction " and the " Com-
plaint " in the Mirror of Magistrates, two of the
most highly esteemed poems of the day. After
these, however, and Gorboduc, he early in life
and early in Elizabeth's reign, in becoming a
statesman, appears to have given up poetry. We
should hardly, therefore, expect him. to be men-
tioned in such a context ; while, wherever he was
mentioned, we should expect some reference to a
work like the Mirror for Magistrates. " Old
Harpalus, now woxen aged" is, too, a phrase
which can hardly be said to apply to an active
statesman of fifty-five, who, nine years thereafter,
was made Lord High Treasurer in place of
Burleigh, and did not die till 1609, at the age of
seventy-two. Neither can I believe that a noble-
man, and one so high in the State and in the
esteem of Elizabeth, would, or could, be spoken of
in that familiar and off-hand tone by Spenser, or
be called by him " Old Pleasant." The manner in
which he sings of Ealeigh, the Shepherd of the
Ocean, is an example of how " great ones," as they
were called, were mentioned, and contrasts strongly
with these lines.
In my turn, I suggest a third, in whom, as it
seems to me, all the signs and requirements meet.
To none, perhaps, is the name of Harpalus, or
Pleasant, more applicable than to the author of
The Arte of English Poesie, whether as evidenced
by the book itself, or by his quotations from himself,
or by the titles of his other works. He was old, for
he was eighteen when he addressed an eclogue to
Edward VI., and he must, therefore, have been
fifty-five in 1590, and may have been sixty-one.
Probably the latter, for the eclogue seems to have
been written with a moral suitable for one who
had just ascended a throne, and the general as well
as the garrulous style of his book, his frequent
quotations from his own poetry, his repetitions, and
his discursus on Decorum, on which he had formerly
written, all give the idea of a cheery old age. He
was also a servant, of Queen Elizabeth, being,
according to Bolton, Puttenham, a gentleman
pensioner; and seemingly he was an old and
faithful servant, for, from one of his quotations,
he was an attendant on Elizabeth while yet a
Princess. " We our selues," says he, " vsed this
superfluous speech [pleonasm] in a verse written of
our mistress, —
' For euer may my true loue liue and neuer die
And that mine eyes may see her crovvnde a Queene.'"
As in this and his eclogue we have indications
of his tendencies, so his chief poetical exercises
were the Queen's praises. On New- Year's day,
1578, he presented her with his Partheniades, in
twenty poems, or one for each year of her reign.
And afterwards, probably about 1583 or 4, he
wrote his Triumphals, in honour of Her Majesty's-
long peace. Lastly, his Arte of Poesie itself was
not only dedicated to her and adorned with her
portrait, but written, as he says, for her and her
Court — a liberty not to be taken without special
permission, and a mark of known favour. Hence,
without asserting that Puttenham, or the author
of The Arte of Poesie, is Harpalus, I set him forth
as answering Spenser's description better than any
hitherto adduced, and better than any other whom
my limited knowledge can recollect.
BRINSLEY NICHOLSON.
FOLK-LORE.
GLOUCESTERSHIRE SUPERSTITIONS : THE EVIL-
EYE. — The kind of sorcery known as the " evil
eye " cannot be exclusively claimed as a Glouces-
tershire superstition, for it is one most extensive in
its range; yet a person may live for many years in
a parish or district without its presenting itself to
his observation. In the course of the year 1873
I was called upon officially to distribute a parish
dole amongst the poor householders of Churchdown,.
near Cheltenham, who were assembled to receive
it in the school-room. This charity-money had to-
be given away in accordance with the donor's will
and testament, to which a by-law had been recently
added, that those claimants who possessed house
and land of their own were ineligible. In conse-
quence of this ruling, two or three of those present
had to be " scratched " from the list of applicants.
I noticed, at the time, that one of the rejected, a
tall stalwart man, of grim and grisly feature, kept
his eye, with a sort of malignant expression, fixed
intently upon me. To this I gave, at the moment,
little heed, being busily engaged; and had I thought
of it at all, should have simply concluded that it
was only an expression of passing disappointment
on my friend's part. The next day, however, a
poor woman inquired of my wife " how I was," and
told her that several of those present yesterday
having noticed the man's staring at me with an
evil eye, very feelingly expressed a hope that
" nothing would happen to me." My inditing this
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account shows, at any rate, that as yet it is not so
bad a case as that set forth in the old Scotch
rhyme : —
" There dwelt a weaver in Moffat toun
That said the minister would dee sune ;
The minister dee'd ; and the fouk o' the toun
They brant the weaver wi' the wudd o' the lume,
And ca'd it weel-wared on the warlock loon."
E. Chambers's Popular Rhymes of Scotland,
Edinburgh, 1826, p. k3.
Touching this mysterious influence, thus far, we
learn a belief in it exists in the southern counties
of England, and stretches thence to the north of
Britain; and it is singular to relate, as mentioned
by Mr. E. B. Tylor, in his Researches into the Early
History of Mankind, <&c., Murray, 1870, 2nd ed.,
that there exists, concurrently with this widely-
spread belief in sorcery, a faith in a counter- charm
that can ward off its evil consequences. I shall
endeavour to ascertain whether a belief in this
counter-charm exists in Gloucestershire, and mean-
while would take leave to quote the strange his-
torical instance mentioned by Tylor (ut supra) : —
" When King Ferdinand of Naples used to appear in
public he might be seen to put his hand from time to
time into his pocket. Those who understood his ways
knew that he was clenching his fist with the thumb stuck
out between the first and second fingers to avert the effect
of a glance of the evil eye that some one in the street may
have cast on him."— Pp. 53 and 136.
F. S.
Churchdown.
DEVONSHIRE SUPERSTITION. — It may perhaps
be worth chronicling in " N. & Q." that in some
parts of Devon the apocryphal correspondence
between Our Lord and Abgar, King of Edessa, is
looked upon as a preservative against fever. In a
cottage at Bolham, a small village near Tiverton.
hanging over a fireplace, in an old wooden framej
I found these letters, printed in large type. They
were surmounted^by a rough woodcut of Our Lord's
head, purporting to be a reproduction of the like-
ness imprinted on the handkerchief at Veronica,
under which was a detailed description of Our Lord's
person : middle height, blue eyes, fair curls, &c. I
begged to be allowed to take the whole thing home
to copy, when, to my surprise, I found the owner
looked upon the idea as sacrilegious. She bid me
read what was printed below the letters, which had
escaped me before. This proved to be a declara-
tion (put into Our Lord's mouth), that in whatever
house those letters hung fever should never enter.
The old woman did not know where the charm
came from, or anything about it, except that her
husband's grandfather had said that it was brought
to the house when newly built, and, as she added,
had always kept fever away. She utterly refused
to hear a word against it. It would be interesting
to know if this belief is common to other countries.
ELSIE DAY.
Kilburn.
THE GIPSIES. — A good deal has been written,
by Borrow and others, as to the East India
origin of the Gipsies, as proved by words in their
language of Sanscrit origin. There is, however,
a word, giving like proof, which has, I believe,
never been adverted to, viz., that of " Thunjur."
There is a tribe in the north-west of India called
" Thunjurs," whose habits are very like those of
the" Gipsies, and whose features (but not their
complexions, which may be accounted for by
difference of climate) and expression of countenance
have a like similitude. Is it too fanciful to think
that the conjurer of Europe may be the " Thunjur"
of India, the more especially that both are given
to sleight of hand and the like '? Is not the
generally received etymology of the Latin word
"conjuro" equally fanciful? As bearing on the
subject, I would note that the outcaste " Bangees"
of Upper India have the same words for husband
and wife that the Gipsies have, viz., " Race " and
" Rumanee." This I found out by examining one-
of this caste in my service, after reading Borrow."
CIVILIS.
GIPSY NATIVE NAMES.— I have collected the
following : — Baptismal : Anteane, Demeo, Eppie,
Geleyr, Grasta, Ninian, Nona, Notfaw, Satona,
Towla. Surnames : Barengry, Beige, Calot,
Curraple, Donea, Femine, Finco, Fingo, Gawino,.
Hatseyggaw, Lundie, Matskalla or Macskalla,
Neyn, Nichoah, Panuel, Polgar, Zindelo. It
would be interesting to ascertain which of these
are of Oriental origin. Polgar would seem to be
so. Barengry is = Stanley, from Gipsy bar, a,
stone, and the common affix, cngro, engry.
R. S. CHARNOCK.
Gray's Inn.
EPITAPH. — The recent notes on gipsies reminded
me of the epitaph on Dan Boswell, the gipsy king.,
who died at Selstone, Notts, and is buried in the
village churchyard. A stone was placed to his
memory, but was broken in two by a cow which
was allowed to graze in the churchyard. I beg;
you will preserve the epitaph, which is as follows : —
" I 've lodged in many a town,
I 've travelled many a year,
But death at length hath brought me down
To my last lodgings here."
WILLIAM ANDREWS.
Wilberforce Street, Hull.
ANCIENT REPRESENTATION OF YORK MINSTER.
— In an article on English Coins, in The Penny
Magazine of the Society for the Diffusion of Useful
Knowledge, for 1836, p. 277, the writer, after
describing a penny of Ethelwulf, father of Alfred,
informs us that " most of the coins of this period
have rude portraits, and the reverses are sometimes
interesting : one of Edward the Elder has the
cathedral of York with three rows of windows
round, arched" Now, if it can be proved that the,
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device on this coin does really represent the
ancient Saxon Cathedral of York, the fact must
be regarded as highly curious and interesting.
No authority, however, is given for the statement ;
and as I have not met with any notice of the coin,
in the histories of York Cathedral or elsewhere,
I beg to submit it to the readers of " N. & Q.," as
a subject deserving fuller investigation.
J. G. B.
PARALLEL PASSAGES. —
i.
" and put a tongue
In every wound of Caesar, that should move
The stones of Rome to rise and mutiny."
Julius Ccesar, in. ii. 227.
" for if he show us his wounds and tell
us his deeds, we are to put our tongues into those wounds
and speak for them." Coriolanus, ii. iii. 5.
ii.
" for after I saw him fumble with the
sheets ... I knew there was but one way."
King Henry V., n. iii. 13.
" A glimmering before death ; 'tis nothing else, sir.
Do you see how he fumbles with the sheet 1 "
B. and F.'s Spanish Curate, iv. v.
in.
" I '11 rather be unmannerly than troublesome."
Merry Wives of Windsor, i. i. 285.
*' J'aime mieux etre incivil qu' importun."
Moliere's Bourgeois Gentilhomme, III. iv.
" J'ay veu souvent des homines incivils par trop de
civilite, et importuns de courtoisie."
Montaigne, i. xiii.
17.
"Was this the face that launched a thousand ships]"
Marlowe's Faustus, 99, Dyce, 1 vol. ed.
" Helen, whose beauty summon'd Greece to arms,
And drew a thousand ships to Tenedos."
Marlowe's Second Tamlurlaine, n. iv.
" she is a pearl
Whose price hath launch'd above a thousand ships."
Troilus and Cressida, n. ii. 81.
v.
"OvTiv tyw irvparov idopai fjitra oig irapoiaiv,
TOVQ d'a\\ov£ TrpoffQiv' ToSt TOI ^nvrjiov tcrrai."
Odyssey, ix. 369.
" You shall die last, sir."
B. and F.'s Elder Brother, iv. iii.
VI.
" To gild refined gold, to paint the lily,
To throw a perfume on the violet."
King John, iv. ii. 11.
" Who when he lived, his breath and beauty set
Gloss on the rose, smell to the violet."
Venus and Adonis, 1. 935.
JOHN ADDIS.
AMERICA=THE UNKNOWN. — In a sermon by
John Norris, preached before the University of
Oxford, 29th March, 1685, is a curious reference
to America, as the type of the unknown. He says
(P- 16):-
" 'Tis not with the Lesser, as with the Greater World,
where whole tracts and regions (and those some of the
best too) ly undiscover'd. No, man cannot be such a
stranger to his own Perfections, such an America to
himself."
EDWARD SOLLY.
CURIOUS INSCRIPTION. — In the principal room
of an old inn of this town, now in process of demo-
lition, there is a small oaken board built into the
wall, just over the fire-place, on which is cut out,
in Eoman letters, the following couplet : —
"When winters sharp winds do chillingly howl
What graces three are lefeu, pipe, & bowl,
M.DCCC.XIII."
This distich is curious, inasmuch as it forms a
complete list of the members of a convivial club
which held its meetings in the room in the winter
of 1813, and five subsequent winters, and which
(according to the official list, which I found amongst
some old papers of the landlord's) consisted of the
following persons : Hy. Wenn ; Sam. Winters ;
Joe Sharpe ; J. Wynde ; Eobt. de Chillinglie ;
Bob Howell ; P. J. Watt, Esq.; Bern. Grace ; R.
Grace ; Jno. Tree ; Henry Airlie, Esquire ; Chas.
Lefeu ; J. Van Puyp ; Noll Powell.
T. COLBERT.
Liverpool.
MADAME DE STAEL. — In a letter written by a
late M.P., in 1813, is the following reference to a
once famous lady : —
" Last winter there were two lions, or rather lionesses,
pre-eminent, — Miss Edgeworth first, and then Mad. de
Stae'l. The latter for a short time set the world in a
blaze. All the Blues were frantic, the Berrys over-
whelmed, and everybody attempting to talk sentimental
French. The rage has now a little abated. This extra-
ordinary woman — and who that has felt Corinne and
Delphine can help thinking her extraordinary ? — is not
so ugly as I expected from the accounts we have heard.
Her eyes are extremely good, her mouth bad, but she is
one of the people who improve with age. She appears
extremely good-natured, careless of the society of ladies
and openly showing her dislike of it, but fond of that of
clever men, and thinking Sir J. Mackintosh the most
agreeable man in England."
O.
[We must request correspondents desiring information
on family matters of only private interest, to affix their
names and addresses to their queries, in order that the
answers may be addressed to them direct.]
MEANING OF PROVERB WANTED : " THE EGG
AND THE HALFPENNY." — I am almost ashamed to
ask the derivation of this ancient proverbial locu-
tion ; but a confession of " sheer ignorance " is
good for the literary soul. I find the saying which
has puzzled me quoted in one of the Year-Books of
Edward I. Huard (Howard), J., says to counsel
for the plaintiff, in Law French, " Vos volez dont
aver le eof et la mayle 1 " This is of course equi-
valent to our " you cannot eat your cake and have
it " ; but what has the " Egg " to do with the
" Halfpenny ? " Has the mention any reference
5th 8. 1. APRIL 25, 74.]
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to the old Roman " Sportula," a largesse originally
given in kind, but afterwards commuted into
money donation 1 Thus, an insolent janitor might
tell a dissatisfied client that he could not have a
basket-full of eggs and the value thereof in money
as well. G. A. SALA.
Brompton.
P.S. Everybody knows that the " maille " was
a base coin of France, worth only part of a denier.
Its paltriness is analogously conveyed in a theatrical
saying still current : "He's not worth a spangle"
(To " spangle " is usually prefixed a very emphatic
adjective). The " Maille " of Lorraine was good
money — an ecu d'or, current temp. Francis I.,
and worth 33 sous 6 deniers. " Maille " is also a
stitch in a stocking, a mesh in a net, or the square
hole between threads and threads in a textile
fabric, whence " maillot," modern French for the
" tights " worn by dancers. The only proverb
that I have been able to light upon, with reference
to this perplexing word (which also means a kind
of mortar used by builders), is " II y a toujours
maille a partir entr'eux " — " There is always some
quarrel between them " : a saying obviously sug-
gested by the idea of two robbers squabbling over
the division of their booty.
" As CLEAN AS A CLOCK " : —
"But you will meet with the Holy Society of the
Wipers everywhere, who will be ready to wipe you as
clean as a clock, before you come to the castle." — An
Antidote against Idolatry (1669), by Henry More, D.D.,
To the Reader."
What is alluded to in the expression here italicized ?
F. H.
Marlesford.
MARSHAL NET. — It is well known that in 1815
Sir Robert Wilson zealously and eloquently, though
unsuccessfully, pleaded the " Capitulation of Paris "
against Louis XVIII. and the Duke of Wellington,
in favour of immunity from the penalties of treason
for Marshal Ney. Vindictive cowardice and un-
merciful tyranny had their way.
In 1827, I was in Paris with my father, and he,
as a connexion of Sir Robert Wilson, was anxious
to see the Marshal's grave in " Pere la Chaise."
I well remember the alarm, the precautions, and
the mystery, with which our conducteur, watching
his opportunity, sought the spot, and, moving aside
the rank grass, disclosed a small flat stone, with
this inscription — eloquent in its simplicity — " Hie
amicus."
Is it there still, or has it been replaced by a
more distinctive — there could hardly be a more
touching — memorial? HERBERT RANDOLPH.
EAST INDIA DOCKS. — What property did the
East India Company hold on the river ? Had they
yards in the middle of last century in the neigh-
bourhood of the East India Docks ? Cunningham
only says that the docks were erected for the East
India Company, but are the property of the West
India Dock Company since the opening of the
trade. My reason for inquiring is that the Chapel
of Poplar, erected 1654, was built on ground given
by the East India Company ; they also provided
the minister with a dwelling-house, a garden
and field of 3 acres, and 20Z. per annum during
good pleasure. Cunningham says not a word
about this ; but he says George Steevens, the com-
mentator on Shakspeare, was baptized in Poplar
Chapel 1736, is buried there, and has a fine
monument by Flaxman. How came he to be
buried there ? He died at Hampstead, did he not 1
C. A. W.
Mayfair.
" STRETCHT ALONG LIKE A WOUNDED KNIGHT."
— In As You Like It, iii. 2 (or iii. 3 in some
editions), Celia and Rosalinde jointly quote some
lines, apparently from an old ballad, viz. : — .
" Stretcht along like a wounded knight :
Though it be pity to see such a sight,
It well becomes the ground."
Will any of the correspondents of " N. & Q." refer
me to the ballad which contains these lines ?
JABEZ.
Athenaeum Club.
How TO DEAL WITH A CUCUMBER. — The old
recipe is, after paring and peppering it, &c., to
throw it out of the window. How far back has
this witticism been traced ? Essentially equivalent
thereto is the following "prescript touching the
safe eating, of a pear," attributed to " that skilfull
and famous physician, Dr. Butler " : —
" That we should first pare it very carefully, and then
be sure to cut out or scoup out all the coar of it, and,
after that, fill the hollow with salt, and, when this is
done, cast it forthwith into the kennell." — Henry More,
D.D., An Antidote against Idolatry (1669), p. 104.
F. H.
Marlesford.
WAR MEDALS. — I have a silver medal made for
wearing as an order, with the head of Gustavus
Adolphus on one side, and the letters G. A. R. S.
on the other. It was obtained in a village near
Niirnberg, where Gustavus Adolphus had several
engagements. Is this a war medal, and are there
any war medals known to have existed before the
Thirty Years' War ? FRITZ.
Cambridge.
Where can a complete list be obtained of all
medals conferred by Queen Victoria for naval,
military, and other services 1 D S.
CHAPMAN GILL. — M'Skimin, in his History of
'arricJcfergus (Belfast, 1823), says : —
" The sheriffs still receive, annually, one shilling, from
each vessel trading hither, by the name of chapman gill;
which money is collected for the purpose of burying
mariners, or others, who may be cast on shore within this
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5th S. I. APRIL 25, 74.
'district. Tradition says this money was formerly col-
lected by the monks of some of the monastic houses of
this place, as spiritual service money ; hence probably,
chaplain or chapel geld or gelt — money for the chaplain
•or chapel."
Has any similar toll been collected elsewhere so
late as 1823 1 W. H. PATTERSON.
Who was the author of a translation of Pascal's
Provincial Letters, entitled —
" Lea Provinciates ; or, The Mysterie of Jesuitisme dis-
covered in certain letters written upon occasion of the
present difficulties at Sorbonne, &c. London : printed
by J. G. for R. Royston, at the Angel in Shoe Lane, 1657.
1 vol. in 12m°." ?
Are there any other books by the same translator 1
Also, which is the best work (English, French, or
German) on the Carpathian Mountains ]
H. J. B.
" VACATION " : A POEM. — Who was the author
of Vacation, published anonymously in Dodsley's
Collection, 1758 (vol. vi., p. 148) 1 It is an imita-
tion— a very poor one — of Milton's L' Allegro.
JAYDEE..
PALLISER'S HELL. — In vol. i. of Sir Gilbert
Elliot's Letters, he says, of Windham speaking in
the House of Commons, " that he was miserably
•oppressed by fear, and may be said to have had a
taste of Palliser's hell, for a day or two preceding."
What is meant by Palliser's hell 1
H. A. ST. J. M.
" ECCLESIASTICAL GALLANTRY : or, The Mystery Un-
ravelled, A Tale Dedicated to his Grace the Archbishop
of Canterbury without permission.
Omnia vincit amor et nos cedamus amori.
Virgil.
London : Printed by the Author. MDCCLXXVIII."
The above is a satirical poem of seventeen
stanzas, in 4to. form, without any paging ; it has a
curious and appropriate frontispiece. No names
are -mentioned. The history of this very rare
volume, and any other information touching it,
COLLE. — I have an Italian chap-book called
La Guerra di A bsalonne contro il suo Padre Santo
Prof eta Davidde, messa in Ottara Rima. It is
printed at Colle. Where is Colle ?
VIATOR (1).
ANNA TANAQUIL FABRI FILIA. — Where can I
find an account of her, who, in the seventeenth
century, published an edition, or furnished notes
to an edition, of the De Viris Illustribus of Sextus
Aurelius Victor ] W. F.
HENRY'S " HISTORY OF ENGLAND." — I want an
interpretation of the names of the under-mentioned
constellations, as quoted by Dr. Henry in his
History of England. The extract is from " Ossian's
Poems," and runs as follows : —
" Seven bosses rose on the shield,
On each boss is placed a star of night :
' Can-mathon ' with beams unshone,
' Col-derma ' rising from a cloud,
' Uloicho ' robed in mist,
' Cathlin ' glittering on a rock,
' Redurath ' half sinks its western light,
' Berthen ' then looks through a grove,
' Touthena ' that star which looked by night on the
course of the sea-tossed Larthon."
See Henry's Hist. Eng., vol. i. p. 422.
A READER OF " N. & Q."
THE PRINCE OF WALES'S JE NE SgAis Quoi
CLUB. — What club was this 1 I have seen a song,
printed by Longman & Broderip, sung by John-
stone at the above-named club. E.
[It was holden at the " Star and Garter " tavern, Pall
Mall. See Attic Miscellany, ii. 313, and the Sporting
Magazine (1795), vi. 83.]
BRITISH MUSEUM. — Has any catalogue ever
been printed of the Cartas Antiquce in the British
Museum, and where can it be obtained ?
C. W.
will be welcome.
H. S. A.
JUSTICE WATERTON. — Of what family was he 1
There is among the Lutterill Ballads in the British
Museum (vol. ii., p. 232) a poetical broadside,
entitled Room for Justice ; or, the Life and Death
of Justice Waterton. EDWARD PEACOCK.
W. C. OULTON.— What is the^date of his death 1
He was the author of many dramatic pieces, and
likewise wrote a history of the London theatres,
and was living about 1820. E. INGLIS.
SHADDONGATE. — What is the origin of the
name Shaddongate at Carlisle 1 If there are any
variations in the orthography of the name in the
old books or documents, what are they? Will
some benevolent archaeologist of Carlisle or else-
where transmit to " N. & Q." replies to the above1?
PROCUL.
"THE GENTLE CRAFT." — I should be glad to
know in whose possession the following popular
histories or chap-books now are.
From George Daniell's sale : —
Lot 1232. " The Pleasant History of Tom the Shoe-
maker." Printed for I. Rose, 1674. (Bought by Lilly
for 221.)
Lot 1362. " The Shoemaker's Glory." Printed by G.
Brown. N.d. (Bought by Quaritch for II. 15«.)
From Rev. T. Corser's sale : —
Lot 69. (2nd portion). " History of the King and the
Cobbler." Two Parts. T. Nbrris on London Bridge.
Lot 248. " Diverting Dialogue between a Shoemaker
and his Wife." Stirling, 1807.
JOHN TAYLOR.
Northampton.
FREEMASONRY IN CANTERBURY CATHEDRAL. —
A friend of mine, who has passed through most of
the higher degrees of Freemasonry, assures me
that he has seen the symbols of Ark and Mark
Masonry in the windows at the east end of Can-
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329
terbury Cathedral, and also on one or two of the
columns of that edifice. He also states that h
saw the sign of the Royal Arch a dozen time
repeated on the painted glass of the windows. Can
any of your readers shed a ray of light on these
interesting facts ? F. W. CHESSON.
Lambeth Terrace.
STERNE : EIGBT. — I have a mezzotint portrai
{13 x 7f in.) of Laurence Sterne, from the portrai
by Reynolds, by E. Fisher, " Sold by Jno Bowie
•& Son," &c. ; also another mezzotint, about th<
same size (Murrey pinx.), of Captain Edwarc
Rigby of Leyton, in Lancashire (Smith excdt
1702). Are the above rare 1 They are both beau
tiful as specimens of art. Q. Q.
FANNY : FRANCES. — When did the form Fanny
for Frances come into use 1 I noted in some
papers which I recently examined, that in the wil
•of John Bunker, of Chalgrove, proved at Bedford,
25th October, 1637, he mentions "my daughter
Francis, or Phanny." W. H. WHITMORE.
Boston, U.S.A.
BISHOP WREN, OF ELY. — Bishop Wren was the
eldest son of Mr. Francis Wren, who, according to
the Parentalia, was a citizen and mercer of London.
There is a very singular reference to this Francis
Wren in W. Lilly's True History of King Charles
the First. Speaking of the Bishop, whom he calls
"this wretched Wrenn," he says (p. 44), "a fellow
whose Father sold Babies and such Pedlary-ware
in Cheapside." How is this expression to be
understood '? Is it possible that Lilly meant that
the Bishop's father kept a toy-shop and sold dolls ?
EDWARD SOLLY.
THE FAROE ISLANDS. — In Marmier's Lettres sur
le Nord (fifth edition, Hachette, pp. 424-5), there
is an account of an attack said to have been made
by a British man-of-war, in the year 1808, upon
Thorshavn, the principal town of the Faroe Islands.
The ship is reported to have entered the harbour
under French colours, and to have sent on shore a
party, who spiked the guns of the fortress and
demolished part of the bastion.
The Danish records in the island have not pre-
served the name of the man-of-war ; and I am
unable to find any particulars of the occurrence.
Can any of your readers help me ? I should also
be very glad to be referred to any recent books or
articles on the Faroe group.
HERBERT P. THOMAS.
Union Club, S.W.
JOHN, LORD WELLS, TEMP. RICHARD II. — What
was his armorial coat ? He was, I believe,
ambassador from Richard to the King of Scotland,
1390. A. L. W.
HERALDIC. — A very old oak panel has been
lately brought to me, having carved thereon, in
high relief, three fish naiant to the sinister, each
crowned. To what family do these arms belong ?
CHAS. JNO. PALMER.
Great Yarmouth.
EARLY DAYS OF THE LATE DUKE OF WELLING-
TON.— In a note to Fitzpatrick's Sham Squire, it is
stated that, in early life, the Iron Duke, then the
Hon. Capt. Wesley, was tried in the Sessions
House, Green Street, Dublin, for an assault on a
Frenchman and robbery from him of a cane. He
was acquitted of the robbery, but found guilty of
the assault. Does any report of the trial exist ]
H. H.
Lavender Hill.
"PLAGAL" (MODE, CADENCE). — Wanted th
etymology of this word. TENEOR.
GEORGE SUTHERLAND OF FORCE. — Can any one
give me information respecting his descendants?
He contested the earldom of Sutherland in 1771.
OXONIENSIS.
CONYNGHAM FAMILY.
(4th S. xi. 16, 78, 264, 488 ; xii. 18.)
There is considerable difficulty in the- way of
arranging the position of this William. Cuning-
ham, as Bishop of Argyle, and the reputed an-
cestor of the present noble family of Conynghain
in Ireland. Neither Keith nor Spottiswoode are
to be relied on as throwing much light on the
succession here, but I shall contribute my quota
of information, which can be depended on, as far
as it goes. David Hamilton, Bishop of Argyle in
1505, and still sitting on 8th Feb., 1522, " Epis-
copus Lismoren," was succeeded by Robert Mont-
ornerie, son of Hugh first Earl of Eglintoun,
and rector of Kirkniichael in Carrick, Ayrshire,
diocese of Glasgow, who was "Elect and Confirmed"
as Bishop of Argyle (" Ergadire episcop.") on 7th
February, 1530-1 ; and the see was certainly vacant
>efore the 1st of February, 1538-9, when King
James V. of Scotland addressed a letter to Pope
3aul III., soliciting the confirmation of William
3unynghame, whom he had nominated to the
Bishopric of Argyle. This letter is given in Theiner's
Cetera Monumenta Hibernorum et Scotorum His-
oriain Illustrantia, ab 1216 usque ad 1547 " (pub
ished at the Vatican Press, Rome, in 1864), and
s as follows (No. 1047, page 608):—
Scotise rex pontifici, ut designatum episcopum Lis-
morensem confirmat. Ex orig. Carte Cervine Filza xxiv.
'ol. 42, in Tabulariis Florentines." "Sanctissimo Domino
nostro Pape. Beatissime Pater, vere Dei Vicarie, post
"ebita ad sacrospedes oscula felicitatem, Sedes episcopalis
'Asmorensis in presentia vacat, cuius curam et guberna-
ionem, quia montosa et sterilis plane est terra, et redditus
xigui, diocesanorum mores feri et inculti, pauci admodum
mbiunt. Est enim ea gens Irlandie et insulanis proxima,
t in postrema regni nostri parte degens. Quod cum
iflicile et laboriosum sit eum populum pridem legibus
330
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5th S. I. APRIL 25, 74.
solutum in ecclesiastica disciplina continere, Ouilielmum
Cunynghame iuvenem annos sex et viginti natum, ex
nobili et potent! familia illi genti vicina ortum, delegimus,
quern Sanctitati tue commendaremus. Huius eximia
indoles non exiguam nobis spem ostendit de illiua populi
ecclesia optime merendi, et in suo erga nos officio reti-
nendi. Tuam ergo Beatitudinem rogatnus, ut hunc
Guilielmum dicto episcopatui propter religionis et fidei
christiane cultum, quo nib.il nobis neque prius neque
antiquius usque fuit, preficiat, cenobio de Sagadul ordinis
Cisterciensis ob mense episcopalis tenuitatem, ut multo
antea tempore fuerat, illi unito et incorporate : qui dici
felix vivas ad reipublice christiane stabilitatcm et aug-
mentum. Ex Edinburgo ad Calend. Februarii M.D.
xxxvui. E. V. S. Devotus filius Scotorum Rex. JAMES
EEX."
From the above document it, therefore, is evident
that William Cunynghame, aged twenty-six years,
belonging to a noble and powerful family residing
in the neighbourhood of the diocese of Argyle, and
whose particular fitness afforded every hope that
he was worthy of receiving charge of the church of
the people inhabiting the diocese of Argyle (who
were a rude and uncultivated race, in a moun-
tainous and barren country, visited by few, and
which, from its proximity to Ireland and the isles,
was considered the remotest part of the kingdom),
was recommended by the King to the Holy See
for Papal confirmation as Bishop of Argyle. Whe-
ther he obtained the desired approval, or was ever
consecrated to this see, does not appear ; it is clear,
however, that this Bishop-designate of Argyle was,
at that period a Roman Catholic, and, from the
date of his birth, 1512-13, that he could not have
been a son of the fourth Earl of Glencairn, as
generally stated, but was probably a younger son
of Cuthbert, the third Earl, and brother of William,
the fourth Earl, who was " a pupil, and under his
father's tutory in 1506." He was alive on the 24th
April, 1550, as " William, Bishop of Argyle," ac-
cording to the Register of the Privy Seal of Scot-
land (as given by W. M.), and may have embraced
the Reformation, which his successor, James
Hamilton, certainly did in 1560, though as he
became Bishop of Argyle in 1558, Cunyngham was
either dead, or had vacated that see, in or before
the latter year, and he could have had no legitimate
issue in that case. Hamilton left, at his death,
6th Jan., 1579, a "lawful son," William, who
became a burgess of the Canongate in Edinburgh.
However, our Bishop William also left descendants,
notwithstanding his episcopal character ; and it is
recorded (in Cotton's Fasti Ecclesice Hibernicce, iii.
361, 368, 370; v. 266), that Alexander Cunningham,
or Conyngham, M.A., " was a son of Dr. William
Cunningham, Bishop of Argyle, in Scotland, a
scion of the family of the Earls of Glencairn. In
1616 he was naturalized as an English subject
[Rot. Pat. 14 Jac. 1], was the first Protestant
minister of Inver and Killymard in this year," 1611
gjodge's Peerage, vol. vii. p. 178]; obtained the
rebend of Inver in 1611, and that of Killymard
in the same year, vacating the latter in 1622, and
the former in 1630, both in the Cathedral of Raphoe,
on succeeding to the Deanery of Raphoe by patent of
27th April (Lib. Mun.}, in which he "was installed
on June 22 (Reg. Vis.}. He died on September 3,
1660 (Lodge). It is also stated by Cotton that
" Robert Cunningham, M.A. (a grandson of Alex-
ander (?) Cunningham, Bishop of Argyle, was
ordained Deacon and Priest on September 3, 1627),
collated (as Prebendary of Killymard) on June 22,
1630, and installed next day" (Reg. Vis.). Neither
of these naturalized Scoto-Irish clergymen can,
with any appearance of probability, have been a son
of the Bishop William Cunningham, who was born
so far back as 1513, unless Alexander, the Dean of
Raphoe, was a nonagenarian at his death in 1660;
but they may both have been grandsons who came
over to Ireland, like numerous other Scottish ad-
venturers during the reign of King James I., to
obtain ecclesiastical preferment in their adopted
country; though this supposition will leave one
degree of the Conyngham pedigree still to be ac-
counted for. In conclusion, it may be noted that
the ancient Cistercian Abbey of Sadagal (" Saundle,
Sanadale, or Sadael "), in Cantyre, formerly a shire
by itself, but now united to the county of Argyle,
is supposed to have been founded towards the end
of the twelfth century, by Reginald, Lord of Argyle
and Kintyre (or " Cantyre "), and it was annexed
to the bishopric of Argyle by King James IV. in
the year 1507, on account of the small episcopal
revenues of that see. This union was continued
from that period, under the successive bishops, and
in the above letter of King James V., he requested
that this cenobium of " Sagadul " might be incor-
porated with the bishopric, owing to the poverty
of the diocese, and for the culture of religion and
Christian worship there. A. S. A.
Richmond.
ENGLISH SURNAMES (5th S. i. 262.)— MR. G. A.
SALA has not improved upon Mr. Bardsley's ety-
mologies. The derivation of the name of the
family of Vaux (De Vallibus) from Vaux, in
Normandy, is reasonable enough ; and there is no
doubt that the place had its name from vaux, an
old plural of val, vau. Again, Vaux would, no
doubt, corrupt to Fawkes, but it does not follow
that the latter was so derived. Cunningham
(Handbook of London) says," Vauxhall, Faukeshall,
or Foxhall, a manor of Surrey; properly Fulke's
Hall, and so called from Fulke de Breaute", the cele-
brated mercenary follower of King John." Lower
compares the name Fulke with the A.-Norm.
personal name Fulco ; and he thinks Fawkes,
Fawke, may sometimes be the same as Vaux, and,
at other times, a modification of Fulke or Fulco.
Ferguson thinks Falke and Fawkes " may be from
the O. Norse (Norsk ?) fdlki, Dan. folk, a falcon" ;
but he says Fdrsteman refers the German names
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331
Falcke, Folk, to an 0. G. Falacho (sixth century]
a diminutive of Falo. I should prefer to deriv
Fawkes from the Saxon folc ; Dan. folk ; Sw.folck
D. and G. volk ; Meidinger renders vole, " volk
umfassend " ; and (quoting Wiarda and Grimm
gives, under this head, the personal names Fulco
Folcho, Folca, Folchard, Folchold, Folcman
Folcryn, Folcrad, Folcharat, Folcwar, Folcwin
Folchwin, Volkman. The family of Sackville (De
Salchevilla,Salka villa, Saccaville) is, no doubt, from
Sackville (now Sauqueville) in Normandy (Seine
Inf.) ; but the name of the place is not derived from
Sicca Villa, but from the river Scie (Sye). Appear
ances to the contrary, family names are not derivec
either from spears or staffs. The name Hooper is a
corruption of Roper, which may be the same a
Robert (conf. Huber for Hubert, Auber for Aubert
and the Old German names Katperth, Eatpert, from
rad, rat-precht = distinguished in counsel ; anc
Rospear may be from the same root by change o
t to s. But Rospear and Robespierre may also b
corrupted from Rob, Robs, and Pierre. Conf. th
patronymic Robsart (Robs-art). The surname
Devill (found De Ville, Divall, Divoll, Devall
Devol, Devile, Deyvil) is possibly sometimes
translation of the French name Diable, or the
Dutch Tyfels ; at other times it may come from
DeVille-les-Rouen, dep. Seine Inf.; orfromDevilL
(Ardennes); and it would also corrupt from
D'Eyville. Cowel Latinizes D'Aiville, D'Eyville
De David Villa ; but, perhaps, a better spelling
would be De Davidis Villa. Eyville, as a
local name, is more probably from Eye vttle, the
town on the Eye or water. Conf. Eyeford, co.
Gloster ; Eyemouth, co. Berwick, on the stream
called the Eye ; Ey Water, co. Aberdeen ; Eye,
cos. Northampton and Suffolk, and Peninsula
of Lewis. R. S. CHARNOCK.
Gray's Inn.
THE EARLIEST ADVERTISEMENT (4th S. x. 6, 54,
469.)— MR. PIGGOT, Jun., F.S.A., quoted an ad-
vertisement from the Mercurius Elencticus, of
October 4, 1648, as the earliest he had met with.
Here are four of an earlier date : —
" A Book applauded by the Clergy of England, called
The Divine Right of Church Government, Collected by
sundry eminent Ministers in the Citie of London ; Cor-
rected and augmented in many places, with a briefe
Reply to certain Qmries against the Ministery of England:
Is printed and published for Joseph Hunscot and George
Calvert, and are to be sold at the Stationers Hall, and at
the Golden Fleece in the Old Change."— Perfect Oc-
currences oj Every Daie iournall in Parliament, and
other Moderate Intelligence. No. 13. "From Fryday
March the 26. to Fryday April the 2. 1647."
" All Loyall and true Subjects to their King are in-
tseated by mee, to peruse 2. Books now newly printed,
Tie one intituled An Eye Salve for the City of London.
Tke other A wholesome Admonition to Kent, Surrey, and
Eaex." — Mercurius Elencticus. No. 27. Royalist
pa|er, secretly printed. " From Wed. the 24. of May
till Wednes. the 31. of May, 1648."
" Courteous Reader, you are desired to peruse A Book
now extant, written by a learned hand, Intituled Now
or NEVEK." Mercurius Elencticus. No. 35. " From
Wed. the 19. of July till Wednes. the 26. of July, 1648."
This " book " was really a small quarto pam-
phlet appealing to the country on the King's behalf.
Its exact title is Aut Nunc aut Nunquam. Now
or NEVER : For if not Now, inslaved ever. London,
Printed in the yeare 1648 : —
"The Fairy Leveller, or King Charles his Leveller
described and decyphered in Queen Eliz. dayes by
Edmond Spenser, Her Poet Laureat, in his unparallelld
Poem entitled the Fairy Queen. A lively representation
of our times : is newly printed, with Annotations worth
your perusall."— Mercurius Elencticus. No. 35. "From
Wed. the 19. of July till Wednes. the 26. of July, 1648."
WILLIAM RAYNER.
34, Harrington Street, Hampstead Road.
"RAFFLE" (4th S. xii. 367.)— This has just
caught my eye while in search of another matter.
By other examples it would appear that rifle was
the Elizabethan and Jacobean form (see Webster's
Northward Ho ! vol. i., with Dyce's quotation
there from Chapman's Blind Beggar, and the
Honest W., iv. 2). I have also seen other examples,
but do not remember raffle. Minsheu, too, only gives
" Rifl.e, a kinde of game where he that, in casting,
doth throw most on the dice, takes up all that is
laid down"; and so Holy-Oke's Ryder's English-
Latin Dictionary, after "rifle, to spoil, &c.," gives
"to rifle, as at dice." But is it not more correct to
say that rifle and raffle are variants, the former of
which, during the time spoken of, superseded the
other, and then was, through French influence,
superseded in turn ? In French there were both
raffler and rifler, to snatch, &c. (Cotgrave), and so
it would seem to have been in Italian ; and Chaucer,
in The Persones Tale, De Avaritia, says, " Now
cometh Hazardrie with his appertenaunce, as tables
and rafles." Afterwards Dryden uses rafle, and
Blount, 16—, fifth edition, 1681, has, " Raffle (Fr.
i.e., from the French]), a game Hence
comes our word Rifle, for when any ring, watch
or other thing is rifled the thing was rifled,
quasi raffled, or plaid for at Raffle." In the later
dictionaries Kersey, 1708, who specially gives old
words, gives raffle and rifle, but the others give
raffle only, though after explaining they say — also
With regard to the rest of the query the French
raffle was a throw where all the dice turned up
alike, as doublets, triplets, &c., according to the
number of dice used, and was so called because
hat raffled, rifled, lurched, or swept the stakes.
"Raffle," says Cotgrave, "a game at three dice,
wherein he that throws all three alike winnes what-
oever is set ; also a rifling [meaning a spoiling], Faire
ne raffle, to rifle, ravage [&c]. lecter vne raffle, to throw
liree dice alike, as three aces to win all ; also to snatch,
atch or scratch."
It is to be presumed that of two triplets the
igher won. Afterwards the impatience of gamblers
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seems not to have brooked waiting for triplets,
but failing them was content with " doublets and
a chance." Dryden, in the Mock Astrologer, act iii.,
as quoted in Richardson, has —
" Wild. What is the ladies' game, Sir ?
"Lop. Most commonly they use rafle. That is to
throw in with three dice, till duplets and a chance be
thrown ; and the highest duplets wins, except you throw
in and in, which is called raffle, and that wins all."
To throw in and in was to throw alike, on two,
three, or four dice (see Nares, s. v.). Hence the game
of " In and In " was the same, or much the same, as
rafle, or rafles, except that it was played with two
or four dice, as appears from Nares, who quotes
from the Compleat Gamester. Perhaps, too, it
differed in that each laid down a stake, though it
is not clear that the same was not done in the
older form of raffle. B. NICHOLSON.
ARITHMETIC : CASTING OUT NINES (5th S. i. 88.)
—This well-known process is described in Appendix
II. to De Morgan's Arithmetic, at p. 166 of the
fifth edition. It applies, not so much to addition
as to multiplication and division ; and depends on
the fact, easily proved, that any number and the
sum of its digits leave the same remainder when
divided by 9. Thus the sum of the digits of
€484 = 22, whose digits again = 4 ; therefore, if
divided by 9, 6484 leaves a remainder 4. There
is also a process or proof, by casting out elevens,
which depends on the differences of the alternate
digits. MORTIMER COLLINS.
Knowl Hill, Berks.
Perhaps the following extract from Prima
Arithmetical Practices Elementa, &c. (Friburgi,
1665, 12mo.), bears on the query of M. H. S. C.
about proving sums by " casting out the nines " : —
" Examen multiplicationis : — Instituitur examen per
abjectionem 9. hoc mod6 : I. Abjice 9 ex numero multi-
plicado quoties potes et residuum ssrva impositum linese.
II. Abjice ex multiplicatore itidem 9. quoties potes et
residuum serva, et prius per hoc multiplica et ex producto
rursus abjice 9. quoties potes, et hoc residuum anota.
III., &c."
En passant, has "despondency," or the Ciceronian
abjectio animi, ever had any connexion with
abjectio figurarum? Abjectio is mainly confined
to these two expressions. BARROVIUS.
Westminster.
M. H. S. C. will find all he wants in Lucas de
Burgo's Summa de Arithmetica (folio, Venice,
1494); in Barlow's Mathematical Dictionary, under
Multiplication and Division ; and, lastly, in Barnard
Smith's Arithmetic Book, p. 21.
C. F. S. WARREN, M.A.
The answer to any multiplication sum may be
proved to be correct as follows : —
"Add up the figures in the multiplicand, find the
greatest number of nines which their sum contains and
set down the remainder ; do the same with the figures of
the multiplier: then multiply these two remainders
together, and do the same with the figures of this product :
lastly, do the same with the product of the two numbers
themselves. Then, if the sum be worked correctly, the
two remainders last found will be identically the same."'
See Colenso's Shilling Arithmetic ; and for the
reasons of the proof, Colenso's Algebra, Part II.,
Art. 131. G. W. TOMLINSON.
Huddersfield.
There are many works containing an\ ex-
planation of the method of proof by " casting out
the nines." The earliest of these, which I possess,
is The Wei Spring of Sciences ... by Humfrey
Baker, 12mo., Lond., 1591. Other editions, 1562,
1583, and 1617. It may also be found in Davies's
University Arithmetic, 1846 ; Vogdes's United
States Arithmetic, 1846 ; Adams's Arithmetic,
1848 ; Perkins's Higher Arithmetic, 1850 ; Parke's
Philosophy of Arithmetic, 1850; and very many
others. In Kersey's second edition of Wingabe's
Arithmetic, Lond., 1689, it is referred to, "only to
set a brand upon it, that it may be avoided by all
lovers of Truth." GASTON DE BERNEVAL.
Philadelphia.
" CRACK " (5th S. i. 124, 175.)— In the north of
England " crack " is a gossiping conversation ;
e. g., " Come thi ways in, an5 let 's hev a bit of a
crack." The plural " cracks " means " news," as in
Anderson's song, Nicol the Newsmonger, which
commences —
" Come, Nicol, an' gie us thy cracks,
For I see'd thee gang doun to the smiddy."
Here Nicol is asked for the news, for he has been
at the blacksmith's forge, which is always a great
gossiping place.
In Craven we should not connect " crack " with
" an arch lively boy," as Dyce does in his Glossary.
On the contrary, as an adjunct, we use it in a
totally different sense. Thus " crack-brain " signi-
fies a simple, weak-minded man or woman, what
we also call an " hawf rock'd one," i. e., a person
who, if not a fool, is next door to it ! It is
evidently used in this sense by Addison in the
quotation given by F. J. V. On one occasion the
famous "Judge's Trumpeter" and puppet-show
manager was exhibiting his dramatis persona at
Halifax. Mr. Punch, after addressing several of
the audience by name, turned to a foolish in-
dividual, who was known as " Crack-Robin," and
said, " And I see my old friend Crack-Robin ! "
This sally caused a laugh, in which all joined
except Robin. He, in a great rage, advanced to
the proscenium, and, shaking his fist at the puppet,
said " Dorn thee, if thee warn't a bit o' wood, I'c
twine thy neck about ! " Crack-Robin had ro
idea of Harry behind the scenes ; he only knew a
" bit o' wood," on whom it would be quite infra
dig. to wreak his vengeance. Harry Roe and iis
eccentricities figure in " N. & Q.," and also in
Dr. Chambers's Book of Days, but the anecaote
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333
above is not given. I had it, when a boy, from
an aged man who was present. VIATOU (1).
SCOTTISH TITLES (4th S. xii. passim ; 5th S. i.
17, 57, 178.)— I entirely agree with L. L., that a
correct is always the safer answer. But what I
wished to convey was, that in discussing a subject
so changeable and uncertain in its nature as usage
or custom of the country, it was better to be con-
tent with an answer which, though somewhat wide
and general, was absolutely beyond dispute, than
to seek an answer which, while apparently more
definite and precise, was liable to question. This
view has only been strengthened by the rejoinder
of L. L. He quotes, as illustrative of the dis-
tinction between the titles of those who held their
lands immediately of the Crown, and those who
held under a subject superior, an " old rhyme,"
which mentions a Duke of Hamilton and Brandon
as being at the same time Laird of Kinneill and
Gudeman of Draffen. The first Duke of Brandon
came into existence in 1711. Sir Walter Scott
tells us that —
" Good-man came about the seventeenth century to be
applied only to farmers, every landed proprietor assum-
ing the title of Laird, which, at an earlier period, was
only applied to barons and great vassals of the crown,
under the rank of noblemen." — Memorie of the Somer-
•villes, i. 496, foot-note.
And he quotes from The Speech of a Fife Laird
Newly come from the Grave, published in 1706 :—
" When I was born at Middle-yard-weight,
There was no word of Laird or Knight :
The greatest Stiles of Honour then,
Was to be Titl'd the Good-man.
But changing Time hath chang'd the Case,
And puts a Laird in th' Good-man's place."
Watson's Collection of Scots Poems, Part I. 28.
Sir Walter Scott may be wrong, or L. L.'s rhyme
may be wrong. But supposing them both to be
right, the result of a reconciliation is that the Duke
of Hamilton and Brandon was agricultural tenant
of Draffen. This does not bear out the illustration
L. L. intended, and hence I think we must allow
some latitude in these matters, and not try to
apply leaden rules to them.
L. L.'s observation that the wife of Sir John
Schaw would be called Lady Schaw, rather than
the Gudewife of Greenock, because the former was
the higher title, would also apply as between Lady
Schaw and Lady Greenock, and, therefore, there is
not much weight to be given to that consideration.
W. M.
Edinburgh.
SIMPSON & Co. (5th S. i. 49, 114, 197.)— W.
T. M.'s letter is very amusing. What he dreams
of is an in future, that, like George Colman's " im-
possibility," will " never, never come to pass." I
fancy that, in these economical days, many would
speak their mind pretty freely if a Chancellor of
the Exchequer were to propose the establishment
of a "Verification Court," where three or four
well-paid judges should sit, in habits like those of
the Knave of Clubs, to decide, " vi et armis," who
had a right to ar., or, vert or gules ! What consti-
tutes the right spoken of by W. T. M. ] Is it
registration in the Heralds' College ? Does he re-
quire to be told that there are numerous families
which are regardless of the Heralds' College, be-
cause their ancestry bore arms centuries before
there was any such place.1? They can point to altar
tombs, and capitals, and corbels, in the ruins of
ancient abbeys, and to the sculptures thereon, that
old Edax Berum has spared. W. T. M. should
visit Sawley, Bolton, and Kirkstall, and, if he
know anything of heraldry, he will find shields
older than many in the College, and of Yorkshire
families that happily still exist. The assumption
complained of is not illegal, though it may be
snobbish in W. T. M.'s ideas, for the Act that
taxes armorial bearings says, " and whether such
are registered in the Heralds' College or not." The
opinion that I entertain about the tax is, that
instead of increasing it, it would be better to abolish
it altogether, as it interferes with the engraver's
trade.
I have a right to bear arms, and I use that right;
but it would be to me a matter of perfect indiffer-
ence if any rich scavenger, who chanced to have
the same name as myself, chose to assume my arms
or crest, and place them on his dust-cart. I do
not addle my brains with such trifles ; I have more
serious and more interesting matters to look to !
If plain Mr. Brown or Mr. Smith is an honest
man, and such an one as Burns describes in his
immortal lyric, though he may be without author-
ized arms, he is, according to my democratic ideas,
superior to any pretentious Sir Hildebrand Snooks,
although Sir H. S. may have an armorial right,
which Mr. Brown or Mr. Smith may not possess,
because they have not come down with the £. s. d.,
or enrolled themselves at the institution in Doctors'
Commons, or the rival one in Lincoln's Inn Fields.
ONE OF ADAM'S DESCENDANTS.
KNOCK FERGUS (5th S. i. 268.) — This street was
north of Wellclose Square, and could not, therefore,
nave been removed in the construction of the
London Docks. It ran parallel to Ratcliffe High-
way (now George Street), and formed the con-
tinuation of Eosemary Lane (now Eoyal Mint
Street and Cable Street). In 1813 it was known
as Jealous How, afterwards as Back Lane, and
more recently as New Eoad. It is now included
in Cable Street. The site of the London Docks
insisted principally of gardens, meadows, wastes,
and rope-grounds. The most important streets
;hat were pulled down were Osburne and Byng
Streets, which ran from east to west, and Virginia,
Portland, and Torrington Streets, which lay north
and south. E. H. COLEMAN.
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[5th S. I. APRIL 25, 74.
According to two maps I have, of 1761 and
1763 respectively, Knock Fergus is the name given
to the highway in continuation of Rosemary Lane
and Cable Street, eastward of Wellclose Square,
corresponding to that which was later known as
the Back Eoad, but now as Cable Street its entire
length. It is some distance to the north of the
London Docks. The map of 1761, annexed to
Dodsley's London and its Environs, gives a very
good idea of the streets (of which there were five),
lanes, and culs de sac removed by the formation of
the London Docks, 1800-5, but the Act of Par-
liament, obtained in 1800, will give a better.
W. PHILLIPS.
The precise streets, and even houses, swept
away in clearing the site for the Docks may be
readily seen on reference to Horwood's splendid
map of London (1799), and comparison with any
good map of more recent date. No church was
destroyed for the Docks. EDWARD SOLLY.
THE DATE or GREENE'S " MENAPHON " (4th S.
xii. 441.) — There can be little doubt, I think, that
the 1589 edition of Greene's Menaphon was the
first. The book is dedicated to " Lady Hales, wife
to the late deceased Sir James Hales," and he is
again alluded to as recently dead. Is it possible
to discover the date of his death ?
C. ELLIOT BROWNE.
MARSHAL MASSENA (5th S. i. 245.) — This name
was doubtless originally Massina or Masina, an ab-
breviation of Tomasina, a diminutive of Tomaso.
Conf. Masaniello for Tomaso Aniello. The study
of family names is, to a great extent, the study of
nicknames (tops and bottoms), diminutives, aug-
mentatives, patronymics, and corruptions. Thus,
from Isabel, we have Bel, Bell, Bellet, Belt ;
Bellot, Blot ; from Nicholas we get Nichole,
Nicole, Cole, Collett, Colard, Collard ; from
Nicholas, Klas, Klassen ; from Peregrine, Pell,
Pellet, Pelt ; from Mary, Mai, Mallet, Malt.
K. S. ClIARNOCK.
Gray's Inn.
ENGRAVED OUTLINES (3rd S. viii. 29; xii. 57.) —
The lines of the first quotation are translated
from Dante's fourth Canzone. The outline, I pre-
sume, represents some part of Florence : —
" Madre di loda, e di salute ostello,
Con pura unita fede
Eri beata, e colle sette donne,
Ora ti veggio ignuda di tai gonne ;
Vestita di dolors ; piena di vizi."
FlTZHOPKINS.
Garrick Club.
ECCENTRICITIES OF NOMENCLATURE (5th S. i.
247.) — These, it seems, may be accounted for
between misprints and a pedantick lust after old
spelling, such as, perhaps, that " k " shows in me.
To take HERMENTRUDE'S instances, plenty of Har-
riots may be found, for example, in old peerages.
Percy's Relicks will show Margrets without end;
and Josiphine is a very likely misprint. This only
leaves Florance, which certainly to a Latin ear and
eye is a most horrible blunder, unless we may take
it from the base Latin florare, which I find in
D'Arnis's Dictionary thereof. As for Eleanor, I
believe no two ladies who now rejoice in that
appellation spell themselves alike. The strangest
way (which I know of myself) is Ellenor. I have
even seen Aliena in an old pedigree.
C. F. S. WARREN, M.A.
"MATHEMATICALL RECREATIONS " (5th S. i. 269.)
— This is the work of "an excellent mathematician,"
William Leybourn. Granger (Biog. Hist., 1804
ed., vol. iv., p. 78) says he was originally a printer
in London, and afterwards himself became an emi-
nent author. It appears from his books, the same
writer adds, that he was one of the most universal
mathematicians of his time. Lowndes (Bonn's ed.,
1864) says he published many scientific works, all
of which are esteemed.
Watt (Biblio. Brit.} enumerates sixteen of his
works. The time of his birth and death is un-
known. Allibone queries "died 1690 1"
SPARKS HENDERSON WILLIAMS.
18, Kensington Crescent, W.
THE TONSURE (3rd S. ii. 45.)— (1). Shaven
crowns were regarded, as late as St. Jerome's time
(close of fourth century), as a mark proper to the
priesthood of Isis or Serapis (S. Hieron. Ezek. xliv.
Opp. iii. 1029). The earliest known examples in
art of the bare crown, by way of tonsure, are of the
sixth century. See Marriott, Testimony of the
Catacombs, p. 52. (2). Boccaccio, in his Com-
mentary on the " Inferno " of Dante (vii. 39),
says : —
" Some maintain that the clergy wear the tonsure in
remembrance and reverence of St. Peter, on whom, they
say, it was made by certain evil-minded men as a mark of
madness ; because not comprehending and not wishing
to comprehend his holy doctrine, and seeing him fervently
preaching before princes and people, who held that doc-
trine in detestation, they thought he acted as one out of
his senses."
A. L. MAYHEW.
Oxford.
"LA VIE DU GENERAL DUMOURIEZ" (4th S. xi.
503) is to be found in the Supercheries Litteraires
(vol. i., for 1869, col. 1179.) So much a reference
to my own books has enabled me to answer, as one
might expect ; for, indeed, with the numerous cata-
logues and bibliothecas the French have, it is not
often we find a book has escaped the notice of
Qu^rard, the Barbiers (father and son), the
Brunets, Otto Lorenz, and Demanne. Unfor-
tunately we still have to regret that English
literature is not so well cared for, though, if we
have many more such works as the Bibliotheca
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
335
Cornubiensis, just published by those two hard-
working and indefatigable bibliographers, Messrs.
Boase and Courtney, the French will be able to
take a lesson from us in an art in which they have
hitherto carried off the palm.
" NOTES ON THE FOUR GOSPELS." — I was about
to hazard a guess that this, which MR. PRESLEY
says is signed " F. M.," might be by Sir Frederick
Madden. But Lowndes, in his British Librarian,
column 236, No. 817, does not say who it is by,
and I should have expected him to know if by Sir
Frederick. I was not able, some time ago, to find
the work under Sir Frederick Madden's name, or
initials, at the British Museum.
OLPHAR HAMST.
New Barnet.
BRIAR-ROOT PIPES (4th S. xii. 445.) — The actual
species of heath employed in the manufacture of
these pipes is Erica arborea, the roots of which are
exported for that purpose from the south of France.
JAMES BRITTEN.
MASSINGER (4th S. xii. 449.)— Since this note
appeared, I have found the lines in question (with
" amble " vice ramble) in a poem " On the Time-
Poets," reprinted among The Shakespeare Society's
Papers, vol. iii., p. 172, from a work entitled
Choyce Drollery, &c., 1656 [12mo.]. It is hard to
make out which three of the poets enumerated
after Fletcher, Beaumont, Shakspeare, Massinger,
Chapman, Silvester (for Daubourn (sic) seems to
be excluded, though named), are intended to make
up the "tale." Ben Jonson, of course, is the
tenth Muse. JABEZ.
Athenaeum Club.
PARALLEL PASSAGES (5th S. i. 105.)— W. E.
concedes that his quotations from Burns and the
Hindu poet are " not exactly parallel," and I agree
with him ; but be will find a parallel to the
passage from the Kajpootana legend in Byron's
Monody on the Death of Sheridan, borrowed from
an Italian poet : —
" Sighing that Nature formed but one such man,
And broke the die in moulding Sheridan."
W. T. M.
Shinfield Grove.
" LETTERS ON MR. HUME'S HISTORY OF GREAT
BRITAIN " (5th S. i. 50) is by Daniel Macqueen, as a
reference to Lowndes's Bibliographers' Manual, by
Bohn, part iv., p. 1140, will show. See, also,'Alli-
bone's Dictionary. The authors of the other works
may, perhaps, be found in the same way, but I
have not books enough here to enable me to go
further. OLPHAR HAMST.
" THE FORGING OF THE ANCHOR " (5th S. i. 288.)
— This poem was originally published, anonymously,
in Blackwood's Magazine, upwards of twenty years
ago. It is reprinted, " by permission of the author,"
Samuel Ferguson, Q.C., M.K.I.A., in Penny
Readings, by J. E. Carpenter, vol. vi., p. 116
(Warne & Co., 1866). CUTHBERT BEDE.
BERE EEGIS CHURCH (4th S. xii. 492 ; 5th S. i.
50, 117, 154, 176, 199, 231, 257, 296.)— MR. TEW
is no doubt right that in my first translation
(though I conceive the sense is correctly rendered)
" under which " has no equivalent, literally speak-
ing, in the original. To be literal, as I pointed
out in my last letter, laborans must be construed
as in a somewhat ungainly, but not ungrammatical,
apposition, by way of exegesis, to devictus.
I should not in any case call quo an adverb.
But it is in sense quite equivalent to "where"
by being taken, as I before suggested, for in quo
(patrimonio). LYTTELTON.
CURIOUS COIN OR TOKEN (5th S. i. 87, 117,
277.) — W. H. is incorrect. The copper coin in
question is an East India Company's coin, struck
for Bombay. The heart-shaped figure is the Com-
pany's bale mark, and the " fish-hook " under the
scales on the reverse is Arabic, and signifies "just
weight" or "justice." For an engraving of the
coin, see Kuding, Supplement, Part II., Plate xvi.
No. 4. NUMMUS.
" CALLING OUT LOUDLY FOR THE EARTH " (4th
S. xii. passim; 5th S. i. 38, 137.) — I lived for some
years adjacent to a sea-side village, which furnished
many recruits for the mercantile navy. Of course
many of these men died far from home. When
their friends learned of a death of this kind, it was
their custom to assemble and hold the customary
wake, &c., as if the body was present ; they then
formed a procession, with loud keenings and
lamentations, to the family burying-place, preceded
by a man with a spade. When they had come to
the usual resting-place of his kindred, a sod was
turned up, and the soul, which was supposed all
this time to be restlessly hovering about, pops in
contentedly. The sod being replaced, the party
return home, quite satisfied that they have dis-
charged a pious and necessary work.
GAULTIER.
THE WAKON-BIRD (5th S. i. 9, 212.)— The bird
which Carver inaccurately described under this
name must be the American magpie, Pica
melanoleuca (Vieill. and Audubon), var. Hud-
sonica (Bonap.) : —
" The tail feathers are brilliant lustrous green, inter-
rupted, however, a few inches from the tip, by a shade
of golden, which passes into violet, then into bluish, the
extreme tip greenish again." — Baird.
The Sioux (Carver's " Naudowessies ") still call
the magpie by the name of zitka-wakan-tanhan,
i.e., "old-time wakan bird." Wakan (the n is
nasal) is the Sioux-Dakota equivalent of the
Algonkin manitou, " strange, wonderful, preter-
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[5th S. I. APRIL 25, 74.
natural," often itds-translated as " sacred," "spirit,"
&c. Wakan-tanka, i. e., great Wakan, is the name
given by the Sioux to God.
Moore, as his foot-note shows, took his " Wakon-
bird" from Morse's American Geography, in
which Carver's description was copied. But
Moore erred in transferring a Sioux name to " the
banks of the St. Lawrence " and " the Manitoulin
isle," where the native language was Algonkin ; and
ornithologists have not yet found the magpie so
far east or south as " the bed of Erie's lake."
J. H. T.
Hartford, Conn., U.S.A.
THE WATERLOO AND PENINSULAR MEDALS (5th
S. i. 47, 98, 136, 217, 235.)— When the grant of a
medal is made general, as was the case with that
for Waterloo, it is not the practice to particularize
in the order announcing the sovereign's intention to
confer such reward the various classes who are to
receive the distinction. The General Order of
March 10, 1816, directs, "that in commemoration
of the brilliant and decisive victory of Waterloo, a
medal shall be conferred upon every officer, non-com-
missioned officer, and soldier of the British army
present upon that memorable occasion " ; including,
of course, regiments, corps, and departments, with
their respective military and civil elements.
It may be remarked, en passant, that though no
mention is made in this General Order of those who
fought at Quatrebras on the 16th of June, or of
those who formed Sir Charles Colville's brigade at
Halle, ten miles distant from the field of battle,
yet all alike received the decoration.
J. W. FLEMING.
Brighton.
Had the Waterloo medal been conferred upon
any of the civil departments of the army, would
they not have been included in the General Order
of March 10, 1816 ? BELFAST.
The Waterloo was the first medal given to all
ranks alike ; and it was also provided that the
ribbon should never be worn without the medal
attached thereto. D S.
India.
HERALDIC (4* S. xii. 109 ; 5th S. i. 116, 197.)—
A bend charged with three garbs is borne by
Barley, Filton, Fiton, Feton, Hesketh, Maltby,
Peverell. The arms sought to be identified are no
doubt — arg., on a bend, gu., three garbs, or — those ol
Maltby, a Yorkshire family. The engrailing is pro-
bably an accidental variation. The other arms are
either, gu., three roses, arg., a chief vair, for Taylor
of Bifrons, co. Kent ; or arg., three roses, gu., a chieJ
vair, for Taylour of London.
BEVERLET K. BETTS.
Columbia College, New York.
x JAY : OSBORNE (5th S. i. 128, 195.)— I shoulc
suppose that the former common name is derived
rom the bird, just as we have raven, blackbird, crow,
)eacock, bittern, &c. Osborne may be Ouse burn,
and so be derived from some rivulet or burn that
lows into the Ouse. A family called Osborne for-
merly had an old hall at Grassington, in Craven,
which by purchase became the property of the late
Joseph Mason. Esq., of that place. Burne is common
n Craven, as Winterburne, Otterburne, Slaidburne,
&c. STEPHEN JACKSON.
USE OF INVERTED COMMAS (5th S. i. 9, 75, 154,
217.) — Inverted commas were not uncommonly
used by our Elizabethan writers to emphasize an
aphorism. See Gascoigne's Jocasta, for example.
[ quote the first sentence so marked that occurs in
the play: —
" „ Experience proues, and daily is it scene,
„ In vaine, too vaine man striues against the heauens."
JOHN ADDIS.
JABEZ says, " LORD LYTTELTON and HERMEN-
TRTJDE appear to assume that inverted commas are,
and always were, notes of quotation. ' That is not
the case," &c. Referring to their articles on this
subject, I am unable to find any such assumption,
although probably they would both acquiesce in
such a proposition. HERMENTRUDE asks why it
is that half-educated persons use inverted commas
in a way she has exemplified, and wonders what
idea could have been passing in the mind of the
writer at the time. LORD LYTTELTON replies to
the first, " because they are half-educated," and to
the second, " No idea at all, or none capable of
being expressed."
But JABEZ himself having propounded and
answered the question of the first use of inverted
commas, I venture to suggest that, if he is correct,
Timperley must be wrong. Under the date 1496
(Dictionary of Printing, p. 198), speaking of Aldus
Manutius, he says : —
" Aldus was extravagant in the use of his italic, for he
printed whole volumes in it Several eminent
printers inserted short quotations in it [the italic] ; but
rejected it when they were long, and substituted double
commas (thus ") at the beginning of the line, to distin-
guish the quoted matter from the body of the work."
May not the seventeenth century example,
quoted by JABEZ, be one of the instances of " half-
education " on the part of the compositor ?
LORD LYTTELTON has incidentally spoken of
" other blunders of punctuation met with on sign-
boards, &c."; but they are likewise sometimes met
with in standard works. Such instances I have
before me in Lawrence's Lectures on Physiology,
Zoology, and the Natural History of Man (ed.
1819). In the dedication of this work to Blumen-
bach, we have the usual " Dear Sir " followed by a
note of admiration, and the same whenever the
word " Gentlemen " is used in his addresses. We
cannot suppose that these exist in the original
manuscript, but that they were added as embellish-
5th S. I. APRIL 25, '74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
ments by the " half-educated " compositor. And
here I do not think it would be difficult to guess
at what was passing in his mind at the time. He
doubtless considered that Blumenbach was worthy
of admiration (and so he was), and that gentlemen
are worthy of admiration (and so they are), and he
typified them accordingly ! (I hope I do not mis-
use it.) MEDWEIG.
REGISTER BODKS STAMPED (5th S. i. 27, 77,
137.) — In none of the registers, between 1783 and
1794, that I have gone through in Lancashire and
Cheshire, have I ever found any stamp. I do not
think, beyond the home and some of the midland
counties, such an act would be very well observed.
H. T.
"SIMPSON" (5th S. i. 165, 233.)— If DR. CHAR-
NOCK is undoubtedly right in deriving Simpson
from Senecio, and that that has probably come
through French Senegon, groundsel, one would say
it was as true an origin as that which mammas are
in the habit of giving precociously interrogative
little boys curious to know where they sprang from.
Neglecting botany, suppose we dig in the New
Testament, and turn up Simon. Cut short we get
our Sims, and then their sons are Simsons.
C. A. W.
Mayfair.
One might almost have supposed this was, beyond
doubt, a form of " Simon his son." Simon, abbre-
viated to Sim, becomes Simkin, also Simpkin ;
similarly, Simson and Simpson may be guaranteed
as diverse forms of the same name. A. HALL.
"ALL LOMBARD STREET TO A CHINA ORANGE"
(5th S. i. 189, 234.)— I do not see the connexion of
this saying with " My hat to a halfpenny " (p. 234).
Nares tells us (quoting from Stow) how in Lombard
Street (hence so called) the Italian bankers, before
the days of the Burse in Cornhill, met twice a-day.
These bankers were mostly Jews: —
" So an usurer,
Or Lombard Jew, might with some bags of trash
Buy half the western world."
B. & F.'s Laws of Candy, iv. 2.
In the proverb the enormous riches of Lombard
Street are contrasted with the worthlessness of a
China orange; the China orange, as it appears,
being a fruit of inferior size and quality, and held
in no esteem by the Chinese themselves.
" Give not this rotten orange to your friend."
Muck Ado about Nothing, Act iv., sc. 1, 1. 31.
Something may also be said of the comparison
of the street of the Jew-usurers with an orange.
Shylock, says Hunter (New Illustrations of Shake-
speare, i., p. 307), was a Levantine Jew, and the
Levantine Jews, according to Coryat, wore yellow
turbans. Bacon, in his Essay on Usury, has : —
"They say .... that Vsurers should have Orange-
tawney Bonnets, because they doe Judaize." — Arber's
Ed., p. 541.
I think there is, in the comparison of the pro-
verb, an allusion to these yellow turbans of the
Lombard Jews. At all events, the meaning of the
wager is, " Immense riches to nothing."
JOHN ADDIS.
The author of this saying was, no doubt, the-
same jocular individual who laid a similar " fruity"
wager of a " guinea to a gooseberry."
NUMMUS.
Oxford and Cambridge Club.
This bet appears to be similar to one current in
this part of England, viz., " Manchester to a brick."
G. W. TOMLINSON.
Huddersfield.
OLD METRICAL TITLE-DEEDS (4th S. xii. 69,
170, 395; 5th S. i. 157, 217.)— Let me refer cor-
respondents who have written on this subject to
" N. & Q.," 3rd S. x. 390; xi. 450, 491, 523; xii. 33,
where there will be found much curious informa-
tion. The substance of the rhyming title-deed,
quoted by MR. FEDERER, is to be found in a
curious book called Fragmenta A ntiquiiatis ; or,
Ancient Tenures of Land, and Jocular Customs
of Manors, &c. It is there said to be a grant of
land to the ancient Herefordshire family of Hopton,
now resident at Canon Frome Court, in that county.
Thomas Blount, the author of Fragmenta Anti-
quitatis, Soscobel, A Law Dictionary, died in
1679, and is buried in the chancel of the church
at Orleton, in Herefordshire. It has been conjec-
tured that the ancient ballad folio on which
Bishop Percy based his celebrated work, The
Eeliques of Ancient English Poetry, was originally
transcribed by him, or once his property, though
this is very doubtful. JOHN PICKFORD, M.A.
Newbourne Rectory, Woodbridge.
WELSH LANGUAGE (4th S. xii. 368, 415, 523;
5th S. i. 78, 231.) — I have read with much interest
MR. JERRAM'S last letter. The result of it, and
of the correspondence generally, has been, I confess,
to put me out of conceit with my suggestion of a
connexion between " Ystwyll" and the numeral
" 12 "; but it has not tended, in my mind, to favour
the derivation of that word from the French tftoile.
Indeed, I object altogether, as a rule, to any
attempt to seek in the French language for the
etymology of Welsh words, being fully convinced
that the Welsh language is much more ancient
than the French, and too rich in its own roots to
need any adventitious aid from the latter. Indeed,
much may be said for its taking precedence of the
Latin in point of age. It strikes me that R. & M.
has unwittingly solved the question in discussion ;
that is, the meaning of the Welsh word for Epi-
phany. In his translation from the curious old
chronicle (5th S. i. 232) he properly renders " nos
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5th 8. L APRIL 25, 74.
ystwyll " " the night of the festival of fraud or
deception." Now, at first sight, such a designation
of Epiphany seems strange and unaccountable.
But, bearing in mind the fact that " Twyll " is
Welsh for " fraud or deception," and reading tlie
narrative as given in St. Matthew, chap, ii., verses
8, 10, 16, a very probable explanation suggests
itself. Before the wise men departed, Herod com-
manded them, when they had found the infant
Saviour, to bring him back word, his secret object,
no doubt, being to destroy the infant. But they
deceived Herod, by returning to their country
another way, and Herod saw that he was mocked,
&c. Here we have a stratagem, the result being
the saving of the infant Jesus from slaughter by
Herod, and the escape of the wise men from the
clutches of that ruthless monarch. I doubt whe-
ther a better solution will be arrived at.
M. H. E.
WAYNECLOWTES : PLOGH OLOWTES (5th S. i.167,
232.) — Let me assure your fair correspondent,
MABEL PEACOCK, that I have not so forgotten the
" folk-speech of Lindsey " as not to be aware that
" clowtes " are big nails. But, as she doubtless
knows, the word is also a form of " cloths." I
well remember having once had a " dishclout
pinned to my tail " for indulging in what I thought
a very pardonable curiosity as to what was going
on in the kitchen. But I ought to have mentioned
that the inventory speaks of " ij Wayne-clowtes
and ij plogh clowtes, vd," which looks as if they
were cloths, perhaps for covering the wains and
ploughs when not in use.
Flekes. — Here Miss PEACOCK is doubtless, as
they say in Yorkshire, " somewhere about the nail-
head," if not in the case of "clowtes"; and again
in her reference for Gresman. For both she has
my best thanks. As to Allarium, I am not so sure
that she is right.
The words about which MR. HESSELS inquires
all occur in the inventory of Margaret Piggott,
A.D. 1485, which will appear in a forthcoming
volume of the Surtees Society. J. T. F.
Hatfield Hall, Durham.
Allow me to quote, by way of illustration of
what has been said concerning the meaning of the
word clowtes, the following prophecy, supposed to
be fulfilled in Kett's Insurrection in Norfolk in
1549:—
" The country gruffs, Hobb, Dick, and Hick,
With clubs and clowled shoon,
Shall fill up Dussindale with blood
Of slaughtered bodies soon."
Gresman. — This word I imagine to exist in the
Latinized form Grassmannus. In days of yore,
when woodcraft was held in honour, and Wensley-
dale was to a certain extent a forest, at Bainbridge,
a village in the Dale, there were " xii Forestarii et
ii Grasmanni." The duties of the latter officials
are said to be " ut malefactores quos invenerunt in
foresta ducerent ad Castrum Eichemond." This
was in the reigns of Henry II. and Eichard I.
JOHN PICKFORD, M.A.
Newbourne Rectory, Woodbridge.
" MITTITUR IN DISCO," &c. (5th S. i. 145, 213.)
-T. "W. C. reproduces from Father Front the
probably exact version of this distich and transla-
tion. LORD LTTTELTON'S and W. P. P.'s hexa-
meters halt, as " datur " is an iambus. My own
tradition seems to be inaccurate, in fact, but is a
correct tradition.
WICCAMICUS does not "remind," but informs
me, and I am obliged to him. Can any one refer
to the original record ? HERBERT EANDOLPH.
Sidmouth.
SWANS (5th S.ri. 308.) — Mythically, swans were
said to sing immediately before death ; and, per-
chance, Polydore Vergil intended, by his " great
greefe of mind," the melancholy inevitable to the
"beholder" and over-hearer of such melancholy
death-songs. _ A. B. G.
NOTES ON BOOKS, &c.
Latin Pronunciation for Beginners. By Arthur Holmes
M.A. (Rivingtons.)
EXAMPLE, here, is preferable to description. The be-
ginner is told the diphthong ce "is to be pronounced
ah-eh, the second vowel being sounded, the first only
breathed." " Multum" is to be pronounced " mooltoo(m)";
the m thus indicated is " to be sounded very faintly, just
enough to give a nasal sound to the vowel which next
precedes it." " Chorus " is to be pronounced k-haw-roos.
" Vulteius is pronounced wool-teh-yoos." Many other
examples might be given ; but the above will suffice to
show Mr. Holmes's object.
Romano-Lavo-Lil ; Word-Boole of the Romany, or Eng-
lish Oypsy Language. With many Pieces in Gypsy,
illustrative of the Way of Speaking and Thinking of the
English Gypsies. With Specimens of their Poetry, and
an Account of Certain Gypsyries, or of Places inhabited
by Them, and of various Things relating to Gypsy Life
in England. By George Borrow. (Murray.)
THIS is one of the most useful of Mr. Sorrow's contribu-
tions to the history of Gypsy life, language, and literature.
The language seems to have come, not from one, but many
sources ; but chiefly Eastern. To those who know that
our bugbear word "Bogy" is a corruption of the Russian
and Polish word for " God," it may be new to learn that
the Gypsy term for the Deity is " Duvvel." The volume
is full of most curious matter connected with a people
who are fast dying out. Their old boast dies with them
" What care we though we be so small 1
The tent shall stand when the palace shall fall."
Every Morning ; a Triplet of Thoughts for Every Day in
the Year. (Tegg.)
THE editor of this handsome volume gives, from sacred
and ordinary sources, of ancient and modern date, three
wise sayings, leaving blank space opposite for the owner
to add a fourth, or a comment on the three. The three
for this day, 25th April, are from St. Matthew, Newton,
and Tholuck. They suggest the accessibility which
mortals have to God, and leave the writer room to say a
word on his own experiences.
5th S. I. APRIL 25, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
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Little Dinners ; How to Serve Them with Elegance and
Economy. By Mary Hooper. (H .S. King.)
To read this book gives the reader an appetite, which is
a main point in the process of feasting, particularly if
the latter be good, and subsequent digestion faultless.
Some of the receipts are excellent. With regard to
economy, that is according to means. The monk who
said he could make soup with pebbles, kept his word by
putting that ingredient into boiling water ; but he needed
a few condiments, a small assortment of vegetables, and
a pound or so of beef, to make it palatable ; and the poor
host, for whom the monk cooked it, found the little
dinner more elegant, but less economical, than he had
expected.
THE BURRAWAY INSCRIPTION IN THE CHURCH OF
MARTHAM, NORFOLK. — The following is an extract from
a circular which is now being addressed " To Clergymen,
Parish Clerks, and others " : — " If required, the usual fee
of half-a-crown will be paid for a copy of each entry in
the parish register of respecting any of the under-
mentioned persons, or any of their issue, the extracts being
wanted for the purpose of disproving in ' N. & Q.' the
abominable and most unwarrantable statements con-
stantly being published respecting the following singular
inscription in Martham Church, Norfolk, which can be
solved by cross marriages, and thus upset the theory of
incestuous intercourse, first promulgated in that journal
in 1851 [First promulgated, we should say, in the
' singular inscription ' itself, namely]: —
Here Lyeth
The Body of *Christ°
Burraway who Depar-
ted this Life ye 18th day
of October, Anno Domini
1730.
Aged 59 Years.
And their Lyes KS~
t Alice Who By hir Life
Was my sister, my mistres
My mother and my wife.
Dyed feb. ye 12 -1729
Aged 76 Years.
" The inscriptions are on two stones, originally one,
and have been removed from the south aisle to the tower,
where that of the so-called ' Modern (Edipus ' is now
partly covered by the organ : —
Register of Names, 4c. Between
/{Gregory Johnson (each one), and issue.. 1610-1700
I Alice , thought to be Harris lfi51-3
Baptising John Johnson, son of Gregory and Alice. . 1681-93
I William Lane, an apprentice at Catfield
^ in!728 1707-16
f Richard Ryall and Ruth , 1638-50
I Gregory Johnson and Alice or any other
wife 1630-93
Mar- ) Priscilla or any other Buraway, Burwaye,
riage. ] or Bearaway 1668-1730
I William Ryall and Alice 1675-80
John Johnson and Sarah Norgate or any
V. otherwife 1700-30
/Gregory Johnson (each one), and issue .. 1630-1/00
Mary, or any other wife of Gregory John-
Burial. -< son 1630-1700
Priscilla Buraway (each one) 1668-1730
^William Lane, of Catfield, Butcher after 1728
" * Christopher Burraway, who was a churchwarden at
Martham, and whose name is cast upon one of the bells
of that church, date 1717, is recorded to have voted at
the county election in 1714, for his freehold at Wood-
bastick (query, Bastwick cum Repps).
" f Alice, first and probably only wife of the said Chris-
topher Burrawayi and to whom she was married at the
cathedral, Norwich, in 1702, was the widow of William
Ryall of Happisburgh, by whom she had a son, Richard.
She was also widow of Gregory Johnson, of Potter Heig-
ham, and by him had a son, John Johnson.
" J Gregory Johnson, previous to his marriage with
the said Alice, had, in 1674, married Mary Buraway, the
mother of the said Christopher (who, as stated, eventually
became the husband of the same Alice), and by her had
issu.e a son and daughter. The family of Burrayway can
be traced from William Burawaie, who was vicar of
Hemsby in 1568, and was buried there in 1580.
"JAMES HARGRAVE HARRISON.
"Great Yarmouth."
BEEK.SHIUE CUSTOMS. — Some singular hocktide customs
observed at Hungerford, in Berkshire, are thus described
in a recent number of the Standard : — " These customs
are connected with the charter for holding by the com-
mons the rights of fishing1, shooting, and pasturage of
cattle on the lands and property bequeathed to the town
by John O'Gaunt, Duke of Lancaster. The proceedings
commenced on Friday evening with a supper, at which
the fare was macaroni, Welsh rare-bits, water-cress, salad,
and punch. To day— John O'Gaunt's day — known in
the town as ' Tuth ' day, the more important business
of the season is transacted at the Town Hall, from the
window of which the town-crier blows the famous old
horn, which has done service on these occasions for
jnany long years. The tything or 'tuth' men there-
upon proceed to the high constable's residence, to receive
their ' tuth ' poles, which are usually decorated with
flowers and ribbons. The first business of these officials,
who are generally tradesmen of the borough, is to visit
the various schools and ask for a holiday for the children ;
then to call at each house and demand a toll from the
gentlemen, and a kiss from the ladies, and distribute
oranges ad libitum throughout the day, in expectation
of which a troop of children follow them through the
streets, which are for several hours kept alive by their
joyous shouts and huzzas. The high constable is elected
at the annual Court held to-day, and one of the curious
customs is the sending out by that officer's wife of a
bountiful supply of cheesecakes among the ladies of the
place."
THE HARLEIAN SOCIETY is about to publish (volume
for 1875) the Marriage, Baptismal, and Burial Registers
of Westminster Abbey, edited and annotated by Col.
Chester, who has presented to the Society the materials
which, during ten years' labour, and at great expense, he
has collected for their illustration. The historical value
of these national archives, which the Dean and Chapter
freely placed in the hands of Col. Chester, is well known.
Some thirty years ago a partial and inaccurate copy ap-
peared in the late Mr. Nichols's Collectanea Topograpkica.
Col. Chester's work will include the whole of these
Registers down to the present time, and will be exten-
sively illustrated by genealogical and critical notes,
among which will be found identifications and dis-
coveries of great historical interest. Only a limited
number of copies will be printed. Persons desirous of
possessing a copy will do well to make an early applica-
tion to the Honorary Secretary, George W. Marshall,
LL.D., Hanley Court, Tenbury, Worcestershire.
DELICATE MANNERS IN HONOLULU. — The Honolulu
Commercial Advertiser of Jan. 31, 1874, has the following
quaint advertisement : —
" NOTICE.— The Messrs. Hayselden Bros, would, in the
mildest and most delicate manner possible, suggest to
those owing them accounts of over four months the
advisability of acting on the square before the 15th of
February, 1874 — Honolulu, January 22nd, 1874."
340
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5tb S. I. APRIL 25, 74.
THE LATE W. SANDYS, ESQ., F.S.A.— The complete
collection of books, &c., on Cornwall, its language,
people, &c., formed by the late William Sandys, Esq.,
F.S.A., are now offered for sale in one lot. They may
be viewed at his late residence, 10, Torrington Square,
W.G. The collection is of very great interest.
"DR. HORNBOOK," SON OF.— The Rev. E. M'Nair
Wilson, of Maryhill, Clerk of the Free Presbytery of
Glasgow, died suddenly on the 4th inst. , in his own manse.
He was a Disruption minister, and had been in Maryhill
close upon fifty years. Mr. Wilson was the son of £ drug's
"Dr. Hornbook.''
THE BOWDON (NEAR MANCHESTER) ROUNDABOUT CLUB.
— From gentlemen, members of the above literary club,
•we have received a cheque for IQL, by their Hon. Sec.,
A. Ireland, Esq. (their kind contribution to the Mrs. Moxon
Fund), for which we beg them to accept our best thanks.
BOOKS AND ODD VOLUMES
WANTED TO PURCHASE.
Particulars of Price, &c., of the following books to be sent dm ct to
the persons by whom they are required, whose names and addresses are
given for that purpose : —
BRIEF DISCOVERY OF A THREEFOLD ESTATE OF ANTICHKIST. With
Trial of G. Fox in Lancashire. 1653.
GARLSHOKE'S Remarkable Case of Marvellous Births. 1787.
ACCOUNT of the Situation of Coccium. Saxon Antiquities found at
Helton Moor. 8vo. .1791.
HENDERSON'S History of the Rebellion in Lancashire. 1753. •
HAWKINS'S Account of Coins found at Cuerdale in Lancashire. 184-.
THE QUACK DOCTOR : a Poem, in Three Parts. Printed at Preston by
W. Sergeant. 1750.
Wanted (to borrow or purchase! by Ll.-Col. Flshwick, Carr Hill,
Kochdale.
BROOKING'S Map of Dublin. 1728.
REPORT of Secret Committee of Irish House of Commons. 1798-9.
Wanted by Mr. II. Hall, 2, Stomont Terrace, Lavender Hill, S.W.
A SMALL VOLUME containing three Sermons (the first of which is on
the Obligation of Virtuei. liy the Rev. W. Adams, of St. Chad's.
It was printed in the last century.
Wanted by Rev. Dr. Porter, Tullyhogue, County Tyrone, Ireland.
to
REV. W. J. FISHER.— The bone " Luz," in the opinion
of the Jews, is incorruptible. It is situated at the, base
of the backbone. Rabbi Jehoshuang proved to Adrianus
that it could not be ground in a mill, nor burnt in a fire,
nor dissolved in water. Placing it on a garment, and
striking it with a hammer, the garment was rent and
the hammer broken. Butler says of it, in Hudibras
(Part III. Canto 2) :—
"The learned Rabbins of the Jews
Write, there's a bone, which they call Luz,
I' th' rump of man, of such a virtue
No force in Nature can do hurt to.
And therefore, at the last great day,
All th' other members shall, they say,
Spring out of this, as from a seed,
All sorts of vegetals proceed.
From whence the learned sons of art,
Os SACRUM, justly style that part."
HAMMILLE F. — That Richard III. slept at the house,
then or later, called the " Blue Boar," Leicester, the
night before Bosworth, may be taken as fully established.
Mrs. Clarke, a subsequent landlady of the house, was
murdered in 1605. A bedstead used to be exhibited as
the one on which Richard slept, and a tale was framed
to adorn it. See " N. & Q.," 2nd S. iv. 102, 153; also
Thomson's History of Leicester.
INQUIRER. — The motto to which you refer must be
founded on the well-known lines in Horace (Garminum,
Liber 1. 13, 18) :—
" Felices ter et amplius
Quos irrupta tenet copula," &c.
S. D.— For concise and accurate commercial statistics,
you cannot do better than consult Whitaker's Almanack,
a supplement to which has just appeared, containing the
names of the present ministry and of those who constitute
the new House of Commons, &c.
PRINCE. — The note (6) to stanza cviii., canto 3, of Don
Juan does not refer to Byron's line —
" Ah ! surely nothing dies, but something mourns ! "
but to Gray having taken, without acknowledgment, a
line from Dante— which is not true.
J. H. — If coachbuilders assert that widow ladies have
no right to the coats of arms of their husbands, they
assert what cannot be upheld. See Boutell's Heraldry,
Historical and Popular, pp. 145 and 169.
OLPHAR HAMST. — The article, "The Era Almanack
for 1873," should be sent to the editor of that periodical.
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are not obsolete in England, though some maybe "local."
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J. H. S. — " Rococo" is simply French slang, implying
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CONTENTS.— N° 18.
NOTES :— Lucretian Notelets, 341— Shakspeariana, 342— The
Dainty Bit Plan, 343— The Protector Oliver's Coach Accident,
344— Papal Blasts against Tobacco— "The Lancashire Dia-
lect"— The Mercurius Britannicus— Epitaph at Luton, Beds,
345 — The Tytler and Glenriddell Ballad Manuscripts —
Heraldry at Melrose — Tomb of the Countess of Albany at
Florence — "Quiz " — A Man of Many Names — London Cries —
The London " Bookseller's " American Chorography, 346.
QUERIES : — Weld of Lulworth Castle, and Chideock House,
Dorset—" Solidarity " — Hawthorn, 347 — Silver Coin— Strype,
the Historian — Scrape — " The Jessamy Bride" — Parker's
" London Magazine," 1845— Heraldic— The Register of Sand-
loft Chapel— Knurr-and-Spell Playing— Oaths— Bibliography
of Soda Water— Pseudonymous Works by " A Lady "—Stone
Jug, 348— The House of Gib— Arms of New Plymouth, 349.
KEPLIES :— On the Elective and Deposing Power of Parlia-
ment, 349 — English Surnames, 352 — Destruction of Personal
Property on the Death of a Gipsy — " Blodius " — Sir Philip
Sidney's "Arcadia" — "Adventures of an Attorney" and
"The Life of a Lawyer," &c., 353— Heraldic— Republican
Calendar— Abp. Adamson of St. Andrews — "A Residence
in France" — Shakspeare Generally Read in 1655— Jock's
Lodge — "David's Teares," 354 — M.P.S for Woodstock —
Poplar . Wood — The Scottish Family of Edgar—" Desier "
— Ballad on Martinmas-Day, 355 — " Boss "—Knight Bib'rn—
Double Returns to Parliament, 356— Lt. -Col. Livingstone —
Pass of Finstermttnz— Jocosa— B6zique or Besique— " Der-
foeth" — Finnamore, 357 — ." See one Physician," <fcc. — " I want
to know " — A Mnemonic Calendar for 1874 — Feringhee and
the Varangians — Mortimers, Lords of Wigmore — The Burial
of Gipsies— Indian Deed of Nov. 15, 1642, 358— King of v.
at Arms— Isabel, Wife of Charles V. — "Prester John" and
the Arms of the See of Chichester, 359.
Notes on Books, &c.
LUCRETIAN NOTELETS.
In the form of the verse of Lucretius, Munro
and others note that one of the most striking
features is the fondness of the poet for playing
upon the sound of words by alliteration, assonance,
and even rhyme. . Only less remarkable will be
found his love of playing upon their sense by
double meaning, or punning, as we now style the
practice. His alliterations and assonances are so
numerous that one or two examples will suffice.
At ii. 618, he has :—
" Tympana tenta tenant palmia et cymbala circum
Concava, raucisonoque minantur cornua cantu."
Several times occurs " flammantia moenia mundi."
So, also, " multa modis multis multarum rerum."
" Ductores Danaum delecti," — i. 86.
" Nil adeo fieri celeri ratione videtur." — Hi. 182.
" Mixta vapore, vapor porro trab.it aera secum." — iii. 233.
" Omnino nominis expers." — iii. 242.
Rhyming couplets are frequent. I note as instances
of perfect rhymes, i. 92-93, 107-108, 164-165,
208-209, &c. Two consecutive rhyming couplets
will be found at iv. 978-981. «
As examples of his playing on the sense of words,
take the following : —
At iii. 982, he represents Tantalus as paralyzed
with dread of the falling of the huge rock suspended
over his head ; then adds : —
" Sed magis in vita divom metus urget inanis
Mortalis casumque timent quern cuique ferat fors."
In this last line, as Prof. Munro points out, casum
bears not only its metaphorical meaning proper to
the passage, but also its literal sense in allusion to
the rock of Tantalus. Then, in combating the
silly objections entertained by some weak-minded
people to having their mortal remains (after death,
of course) comfortably disposed of in the stomachs
of their winged or four-footed fellow-creatures, he
cleverly contrives to gratify at once his delight in
assonance, and his love of a pun : —
" Nam si in morte malumst malis morsuque ferarum
Tractari."— iii. 888.
No one will hesitate to admit the pun on account
of the difference in quantity between the first
syllables of malum and mala. Far greater liberties
are taken with language by punsters of established
reputation. But to my mind his best witticism
occurs in the first book, at w. 336-7, where he
lays down the principle that the function assigned
to matter is that of obstructing and hindering, in
these words : —
" Namque omcium quod corporis exstat,
Officere atque obstare," &c.
Here the jeu de mots on officium and officere is
quite transparent. For the full appreciation of
the joke, the root meaning of officere must be taken
into account. That, of course, would be fell by
the audience addressed by Lucretius. This borne
in mind, it will be seen that an exact parallel to
the play on words between officium and officere is
furnished in English by the smuggler's perversion
of Nelson's famous signal, " England expects every
man to do his duty."
The following verses are good examples of the
sound being made the echo to the sense : —
" Et circumvolitant equites mediosque repente
Tramittunt valido quatientea impete campos." — ii. 329.
With these lines compare Virg. JEn. viii. 596 : —
" Quadrupedante putrem sonitu quatit ungula campum.' '
This verse is repeated with slight variation, JEn.
xi. 875. Compare also Martial, xii. 50, 5 : —
" Pulvereumque fugax hippodromon ungula plaudit."
As a specimen of alliterative word-painting, these
next verses are unsurpassable (iv. 545): —
" Cum tuba depresso graviter sub murmure mugit
Et reboat raucum regio cita barbara bombum."
Then the contrast (547) : —
" Et validis cycni torreutibus ex Heliconis
Cum liquidam tollunt lugubri voce querellam."
The parallels next cited will, I think, be found
noteworthy. At ii. 16, Lucretius has : —
"Nonne videre
Nil aliud sibi naturam latrare, nisi ut, quoi
Corpore seiunctus dolor absit, mente fruatur
lucundo sensu cura semotu' metuqueT'
Cf. Juvenal, Sat. x. 356:—
342
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5th S. I. MAY 2, '74.
" Orandum est, ut sit mens sana in corpora sano.
Fortem posce animum, mortis terrors carentem."
Munro quotes from Diog. Laert., x. 131, the saying
of Epicurus, on which Lucretius founds, that the
pleasure he strives to attain is " TO /x.^r' dAyetv
Kara crto/io. //.^re TapaTTeo-<?ou Kara i^v^i/jv."
" Scilicet baud nobis quicquam, qui non erimus turn,
Non si terra niari miscebitur et mare caelo." .
Lucr. iii. 840.
With the expression cf. Psalm xlvi. 2, 3 : " Though
the earth be removed, and though the mountains be
carried into the midst of the sea," &c. With the
sentiment, Munro compares " what Cicero calls
ilia vox inhumana et scelerata adopted by Tiberius
and Nero, eftov S-avovros ycua /xt^^ryTco Trvpi'
OvSev ju,eAei fJLOL, ra/xa yap-KaAws e'xei->J Of this
vox inhumana, the celebrated saying of Metternich
is but a modern version : " Apres moi le deluge."
" Vitaque mancipio nulli datur, omnibus usu." — iii. 971.
In sentiment cf. 1 Cor. vi. 19, 20, " Ye are not
your own ; ye are bought with a price ; therefore,"
&c. In illustration of the general view of human
life set forth by Lucretius, Prof. Sellar (Roman
Poets, 218) quotes some fine verses of Empedocles,
which end thus : — ,
" ovV €7rtSepKTa rdS' avSpacnv OVT eiraKovcrTa
oi're voy TreptAr/Trra."
The parallel with these verses at 1 Cor. ii. 9 is
of -the most striking nature : " Eye hath not seen,
nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart
of man," &c. St. Paul prefaces this with " as it is
written," and the reference is, no doubt, to Isaiah
mainly ; but the expression is so much nearer to
Empedocles than Isaiah, that one is inclined to
think that the words of the heathen poet-philoso-
pher had mixed themselves up in the mind of the
Apostle with the thought of the prophet. St. Paul
was a well-read man.
" Mortua cui vita est prope iam vivo atque videnti."
Lucr. iii. 1046.
This line declares of the person addressed that " in
the midst of life he is, as it were, in death." But
I put this forward merely as a coincidence ; not at
all with the idea of this passage being the source ol
the beautiful sentence in the burial service ; the
application of the words in the Prayer Book, as 1
understand them, being quite different from the
sense intended by Lucretius.
" Denique caelesti sumus omnes semine oriundi;
Omnibus ille idem pater est." — Lucr. ii. 991.
Cf. " TOV yap /cat yevos ea-p.ei'." This is half of an
hexameter verse by Aratus, quoted by St. Paul in
Acts xvii. 28.
" Cedit item retro, de terra quod fuit ante,
In terras, et quod missumst ex aetheris oris,
Id rursum caeli rellatum templa receptant."
Lucr. ii. 999.
Earth to earth, dust to dust, ashes to ashes !
" Et revertatur pulvis in terram suam unde erat, e
piritus redeat ad Deum qui dedit ilium."— Eccles. xii. 7
Vulgate).
"Posteraque in dubiost fortunam quam vehat aetas."
Lucr. iii. 1085.
Vtunro notes that this " has a proverbial smack,"
and compares Georg. i. 461, ." quid vesper serus
ehat" ; and Gellius, " lepidissimus liber est M.
Varronis ex satiris Menippeis qui inscribitur
Nescis quid vesper serus vehat.' " To these I
add, as similar in sentiment, Prov. xxvii. 1 : "Boast
not thyself of to-morrow; for thou knowest not
what a day may bring forth." And St. James, Epist.
iv. 14: "Ye know not what shall be on the
morrow." E. B. S.
Glasgow.
(To le continued.)
SHAKSPEARIANA.
SHAKSPEARE QUERIES. — In Anglice Speculum
Morale, Lond., 1670, there is a tale, entitled " The-
Friendly Rivals," in which there is an incident
greatly resembling the last scene of the Merry
Wives of Windsor. The rival interrupts the two
lovers by "a company of boyes dressed like
Fairies," who come in dancing, and caper round
them singing, and pinching them severely to the
tune of — •
" We must make these Walks and Groves
Free from the dreggs of mortal loves,
And clear them from th' unclean abodes
Of croaking froggs, and creeping toads,
For Oberon the Fairie King
Fair Mab his Queen will hither bring,
And they must dance, and we must sing,
And they' must," &c.
The story is evidently derived from a French source.
Can it be traced ?
Dennis's remarks upon Shakspeare, scattered
through many of his writings, are well worth col-
lecting and republishing, as affording a good
insight into the opinions about Shakspeare current
during what may be called the first critical period.
I question, after all, if Dennis had not a higher
appreciation of Shakspeare than Farmer. His
arguments against Shakspeare's scholarship are far
more subtle and delicate than Farmer's, and n^
nearly so offensive. As a reason why Shakspeare
had never read Euripides, he advances the follow-
ing :—
" Did Shakespeare appear to be so nearly touched with,
the affliction of Hecuba for the death of Priam, which
was but daubed and bungled by one of his countrymen,
that he could not forbear introducing it, as it were by
violence, into his own Hamlet ; and would he make no
imitation, no commendation, not the least mention of
the unparalleled and inimitable grief of the Hecuba of
Euripides ? "
From the expression " one of his countrymen,"
Dennis would seem to be referring to some
generally received tradition, or opinion, upon
this point. Are there any other similar allusions
of this period? The Letters on the Genius and
5th S. I. MAY 2, '74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
343
Writings of Shakespeare was first published, I
believe, in 1712 ; but I am quoting from the re-
print in the Original Letters, 2 vols., Lond., 1721.
It would be interesting to know something
about the status and connexions of John Benson,
the bookseller who published the 1640 edition
of Shakespeare's Poems. From the prefatory
remarks, he appears to have been the editor as
well as the publisher ; and it is probably to him
that we are indebted for the new arrangement and
the addition of the headings to the Sonnets. He
was evidently a warm admirer of these poems : —
" I have beene somewhat solicitous to bring this forth
to the perfect view of all men, and, in so doing, glad to
be serviceable for the continuance of glory to the de-
served author in these his poems."
They had not, he says, " the fortune, by reason
of their infancie in his death, to have the due ac-
commodation of proportionable glory with the rest
of his ever living works" ; and he goes on to charac-
terize them in a manner which must assuredly
cause him to be the envy of modern critics, for he
describes them as —
" Seren, cleere, and elegantly plaine ; such gentle
straines as shall recreate, and not perplexe, your brain ;
no intricate or cloudy stufie to puzzell intellect."
It is painful to think that this obtuse Benson
might, in all probability, have been able, by a
stroke of his pen, to have spared us the intermin-
able controversy about the dedication, although I
believe that he has given us a sufficient clue to his
real opinion of the Sonnets by the omission of six
of the most passionate.
It appears, from the recently published Archibald
Constable and his Literary Correspondents, a
Memorial, Edin., 1873, that the printing of Scott's
edition of Shakspeare had proceeded much further
than would have been inferred by the reader of
Lockhart. Three volumes seem to have been
finished at the time of the great crash, and Mr.
Thomas Constable tells us that all the sheets were
sold for waste paper ! It is not likely that Sir
Walter's notes would, at the present day, add
much to our knowledge of Shakspeare's text ; but
the great romancer was so warm an admirer and
appreciator of the poet, that any critical disquisi-
tions of his (if there were any) could not fail to be
of the greatest interest. It is scarcely probable
that every copy would be destroyed. Are any
known to be in existence 1 C. ELLIOT BROWNE.
P.S. — Since the above was written I observe that
Mr. Winsor, of the Boston Library, contributes to
a contemporary the announcement that some sheets
of Scott's Shakspeare are preserved in his library.
Are there none in England ]
PASSAGES FROM FLETCHER AND SHAKSPEARE. —
In the Two Noble Kinsmen, Act v. 3 (vol. viii.
p. 202 of Dyce's edition of Shakspeare), Emilia being
pressed by Theseus to witness the combat between
Palamon and Arcite, says : —
" I will stay here :
It is enough, my hearing shall be punish'd
With what shall happen, — 'gainst the which there is
No deafing — but to hear, not taint mine eye
With dread sights that it may shun."
The last line but one, thus printed, has no mean-
ing that I can make out ; should we not write —
" 'gainst the which there is
No deafing, but to hear — not taint mine eye."
Where " but to hear "=so as not to hear. (See
Abbott's Shakspearian Grammar, § 122.) Then
Emilia will say, " I will stay here, not taint mine
eye," &c., the intermediate words being in a paren-
thesis.
I should not have taken up your s-pace with
commenting on such a trifle, if the Two Noble
Kinsmen had remained in its former obscurity,
but, as Mr. Dyce has included it in his edition of
Shakspeare's works, it will probably be read by a
numerous circle, and so becomes of more im-
portance.
In King John, Act iii. sc. 4, King Philip says :
" So by a roaring tempest on the flood
A whole armado of convicted sail
Is scatter'd and disjoin'd from fellowship."
Here Mr. Dyce, following Mason and Mr.
Collier's MS. annotator, reads convented for con-
victed. May we not retain the old reading, deriving
convicted from convictus, of which Ainsworth says,
" (a convivo) a living together in one house : a
boarding or tabling together; familiarity." The
word convicted will then only imply a closer " fel-
lowship" than "convented" would, from which
the armado was " scatter'd and disjoin'd."
F. J. V.
I have casually lighted on a lapsus calami of
Shakspeare ; I do not know if the slip has ever
been publicly noticed. It occurs inLucrece, 1. 1342:
" But they whose guilt within their bosoms lie
Imagine every eye beholds their blame."
The word " lie " rimes to hie and eye.
FRED. KTTLE.
THE DAINTY BIT PLAN.
TUNE : " BROSE AND BUTTER."
Written by William Cross. Originally published in
The Penny Songster, Glasgow, 1839.
" Our May had an ee to a man,
Nae less than the newly placed Preacher,
An' we plotted a dainty bit plan
For trappin' our spiritual teacher.
Oh ! but we were sly,
We were sly an' sleekit,
But ne'er say a herrin' is dry
Until it 'a weel reestit an' reekit.
We treated young Mr. McGock,
An' we plied him wi' tea an' wi' toddy,
An' we praised every word that he spoke,
'Till we put him maist oot o' the body.
Oh ! but we were sly, &c.
344
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5th S. I. MAT 2, 74.
Frae the Kirk we were never awa'
Except when frae hame he was helpin',
An' then May, an' aften us a',
Gaed far an' near efter him skelpin'.
Oh ! but we were sly, &c.
We said aye what the neebors thocht droll,
That to hear him gang through wi' a sermon
Was, tho' a wee dry on the whole,
As refreshin 's the dew on Mount Hermon.
Oh ! but we were sly, &c.
But to come to the heart o' the nit,
The dainty bit plan that we plotted
Was to get a subscription ant,
An* a watch to the Minister voted.
Oli ! but we were sly, &c.
The young women folk o' the Kirk
By turns lent a han' in collecting
But May took the feck o' the wavk
An' the trouble the rest o' directin'.
Oh ! but we were sly, &c.
A gran' watch was gotten bely ve,
An' May wi' sma' priggin' consentit
To be ane o' a party o' five
To gang to the Manse an' present it.
Oh ! out we were sly, &c.
We a' gied a word o' advice
To May in a deep consultation,
To hae something to say unco nice,
An' to speak for the hale deputation.
Oh ! but we were sly, &c.
Takin' present an' speech baith in han',
May delivered a bonny palaver,
To let Mr. McGock understan'
How zealous she was in his favour.
Oh ! but we were sly, &c.
She said that the gift was to prove
That his female friends valued him highly,
But it couldna express a' their love,
An' she glinted her ee at him slyly.
Oh ! but we were sly, &c.
He put the gowd watch in his fab,
An' proudly he said he wad wear it,
An' after some flatterin' gab,
He tauld May he was gaun to be marriet.
Oh ! but we were sly,
We were sly an' sleekit,
But Mr. McGock was nae gowk,
Wi' our dainty bit plan to be cleekit.
May cam hame wi' her heart in her mouth,
An' frae that hour she turn'd a Dissenter,
An' noo she's renewin' her youth
Wi' some hopes o' the Burgher Precentor.
Oh ! but she was sly,
She was sly an' sleekit,
An' cleverly opens ae door
As sune as anither is steekit."
F.
THE PROTECTOR OLIVER'S COACH ACCIDENT.
In the Second Report of the Royal Commission
on Historical Manuscripts, 1871, page 36, in the
list of MSS. belonging to Lord Lyttelton is men-
tioned a letter of " Phil. Gary to Sir Henry Lyttel-
ton," dated Sept. 30, 16 — . It seems odd that the
cataloguer should not have supplied the date of the
year (1654), since the anecdote told in the letter is
a well-known one, viz. : —
" The Protector was yesterday overturned in his coach,
and so bruised in his belly and his thigh, that he cannot
stir himself in his bed, and his secretary's leg is broken.
How the accident came is a great secret, because of the
dishonour of it ; for he would needs drive his coach him-
self, and the horses ran away, and threw him amongst
them." — Letter of Sept. 30, 1654, as above.
" How the accident came about " is not " a great
secret" to us, for we learn from a letter of the
Dutch Ambassador's to the States-General, dated
16th October, 1654, new style, that His Highness
having gone to " take the air in Hyde Park, where
he made his dinner," accompanied only by Secre-
tary Thurloe and a few of his gentlemen and
servants, —
" Afterwards had a desire to drive the coach himself,
having put only the Secretary into it, being those six
horses which the Earl of Oldenburgh had presented unto
His Highness, who drove pretty handsomely for some
time ; but at last provoking those horses too much with
the whip, they grew unruly, and run so fast, that the
postillion could not hold them in ; whereby His Highness
was flung out of the coach-box upon the pole, upon which
he lay with his body, and afterwards fell upon the ground.
His foot getting hold in the tackling, he was carried away
a good while in that posture, during which a pistol went
off in his pocket : but at last he got his foot clear, and so-
came to escape, the coach passing away without hurting
him. He was presently brought home, and let blood ;
and after some rest taken, he is now pretty well again.
The Secretary being hurt on his ancle with leaping out
of the coach, hath been forced to keep his chamber
hitherto, and been unfit for any business ; so that we
have not been able to further or expedite any business
this week."— Thurloe 's State Papers, vol. ii. p. 652.
This accident happened on Friday, 29th Sep-
tember, 1654 ; and there is a letter extant (among
the Lansdowne MSS. in the British Museum) from
Secretary Thurloe to Dr. Pell, dated Whitehall,
24th October, 1654, in which he says:—
" It pleased God that I received a hurt in my leg at the
same time when His Highness received his hurt by his
coach, which was this day month ; since which time I
have kept my chamber, and been under so much dispo-
sition of body, that I have not been able to write unto
you. I bless God His Highness is perfectly recovered,
and I hope I am in good way thereunto, though for the
present I continue very lame."— Page 69, vol. i. of Rev.
Dr. R. Vaughan's Protectorate of Oliver Cromwell, Svo.,
1839.
It appears from this letter that Thurloe suffered
much more than the Protector from the accident ;
although it will be perceived that the account in
Gary's letter is considerably exaggerated. The
escape of Oliver formed the subject of a congratu-
latory poem from George Wither, and Andrew
Marvell alludes to it in these lines : —
" Our British fury, struggling to be free,
Hurried thy horses, while they hurried thee ;
When thou hadst almost quit thy mortal cares,
And soil'd in dust thy crown of silver hairs."
See also General Edmund Ludlow's Memoirs.,
12mo., 1698-9, vol. ii. p. 508.
HENRY W. HENFREY.
14, Park Street, Westminster.
5th B. I. MAY 2, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
345
PAPAL BLASTS AGAINST TOBACCO. — I meet with
the following edicts of two Popes on the subject
of the use of tobacco and snuff, which may be in-
teresting to those of your correspondents who have
given their attention to the historical branch of the
subject. The first isthat of Urban VIII., 1642 :—
" Tabacum, sive solidum, sive in frusta concisum, aut
in pulverem redactum. ore vel naribus, in fumo per tu-
bulos, et alias quomodo libet, sumere prohibetur, sub
poena excommunicationis, omnibus et singulis utriusque
sexus personis, tarn secularibus quam ecclesiasticis," &c.
Innocent X., 1650, repeats this prohibitory edict
against the use of tobacco in the Vatican, or any
part of it.
Benedict XIII., 1725, repealed it, but with a
certain reservation, viz. : —
" Quod illorum (Clericorum) nullus, praesertim dum in
Choro interest, et divinis operatur officiis, arculam, sive
thecam, in qua nicotianum pulverem servat, ad alios in
orbeni, seu gyrum mittere palam, et publice audeat."
This reservation seems to have been subsequent
to the original edict, which gave full liberty to all
persons —
"Herbam nicotianam, vulgo Tabacum nuncupatum,
sive in solidum, sive in frusta concisum, sive in pulverem
redactum, fumum ex eo elicitum, ore, naribus, aut alias
quomodo libet, in recensitis locis pro libito utendi."
It appears that the passing round of the snuff-
box in the time of divine service had tended " ad
minuendam Domus Domini sanctitudinem, et
cultuin huic 'toto orbe celeberrimse Basilicse prse
standum."
It became a grave question of scholastic theology
whether taking tobacco in any form was a violation
of the fast before Mass. After much discussion, the
doctors determined that those who chewed tobacco,
" qui folia tabaci ore sumunt, et dentibus conterunt
ad sputa, et phlegrnata ex ore projicienda," without
doubt violated the fast ; " quia semper aliquid ex
succo in stomachtsm trajicitur." Others maintained
that the fast was not violated, " Si nihil in sto-
machum trajiciatur." Elaborate discussions of this
point are found in the writings of the Canonists.
Much curious information on the subject is con-
tained in Jerran's Prompta Bibliotheca, vol. vii.,
under the head " Tabacum."
G. B. BLOMFIELD.
Rectory, Stevenage.
" THE LANCASHIRE DIALECT." — In Corry's Me-
moir of John Collier, " Tini Bobbin," published at
Kochdale in 1819, there is no mention of the speci-
men printed in the Gentleman's Magazine, Oct. 1746,
pp. 527-8, which, as the original edition of that
pamphlet appeared without date, may probably be
assumed as the date of the first edition of that work.
Collier was in the habit of sending his pamphlet, or
his " Bandyhewits," as he called them, to various
towns for sale; and in that way it came before
Sylvanus Urban, who does not appear to have esti-
mated it as of much worth, most likely from not
understanding the dialect, which abounds in more
Saxon and Danish words than probably any other
county. In the specimen given in the Magazine
it differs in many instances from the text in Corry's
edition. Mr. Heywood, in his excellent treatise,
On the South Lancashire Dialect, printed in the
57th volume of the Chetham Society's publications,
1862, alludes to the notice in the Gentleman's
Magazine, as also in the British Magazine, pp.
268-272, 437-439. The English Dialect Society,
in their contemplated publications, will no doubt
take notice of these matters when they come to-
treat of the dialect of Lancashire.
WILLIAM HARRISON.
Rock Mount, St. John's, Isle of Man.
THE MERCURIUS BRITANNICUS.— I have lighted
on a copy of this very early newspaper, or " news-
letter." It is No. 47, "from Monday the 12 of
August to Monday the 19 of August 1644," and
has for imprint " Printed according to order for
Robert White." It is paged 367 to 374 inclusive.
This specimen is curious as showing the state of
feeling that existed, in the year 1644, on the
politics of the day. It also mentions and comments
on another publication (Mcrcurius Aulicus) issued
by the Royalist party (apparently at Oxford, where
the king then was), the name of which I do not
remember to have heard before. I may add that
in Eushworth's Historical Collections, I have seen
various articles copied from MercuriusBritannicus.
The substance of these is extracted by Rapin, who,
however, always refers to Rush worth for the facts.
From Rapin they have been distilled into the
pages of Carte, Hume, &c. T. D. F.
Belfast.
EPITAPH AT LUTOX, BEDS. — Remembering the
last two lines of a quaint epitaph on a slab in the
Church of Luton, Beds, which I saw many years
ago, I wrote to the present vicar, who has kindly
sent, at my request, the entire inscription. I
transcribe it and his letter : —
" Dear Sir, — The inscription to which you refer is as
follows : —
' Here lyeth the body of Daniel Knight,
Who all my life time lived in spite.
Base flatterers sought me to undoe,
And made me sign what was not true.
Reader ! take care whene'er you venture
To trust a canting false Dissenter.
Who died June llth, in the 61st year of his age, 1756.'
" The note on this in a book called The History of
Luton is : —
' The above was written on account of a quarrel he had
with Mr. Samuel Marsom, a deacon of high standing in
the Baptist cause, and who appears to have been a
lawyer. Daniel Knight was a man of property in and
about Luton, and was a very eccentric person, obstinate
in elections, &c. He applied to Mr. Marsom to make a
conveyance of some property, who, instead of making it
freehold made it leasehold, so that he lost his vote.
This so exasperated him that he called Marsom a rogue ;
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for which, to avoid prosecution, he was forced to sign a
recantation, which was published in a newspaper.'
" The above, you will perceive, comes from the pen of
a Dissenter. Yours truly, J. O'NEILL."
" Luton Vicarage, March 27, 1874."
HERBERT RANDOLPH.
Sidmouth.
THE TYTLER AND GLENRIDDELL BALLAD
MANUSCRIPTS. — Alex. Eraser Tytler lent Ritson
a collection of ballads containing Willie's Lady,
Clerk Colvin, Brown Adam, Jack the Little Scot,
Chil Brenton, the Gay Goss-Hawk, Young Bekie,
Rose the Red and White Lillie, Brown Robin,
Willie o' Douglas-Dale, Kempion, Lady Elspat,
King Henry, Lady Maisry, and the Cruel Sister.
These ballads were derived from Mrs. Brown's
recitation, and were originally obtained by William
Tytler. This important collection, which seems to
have been in two manuscripts, for Alexander Tytler
lent two manuscripts to Scott of ballads obtained
from Mrs. Brown, has not been heard of, so far as
I know, since Scott referred to it in the Introduc-
tion to his Minstrelsy (p. 230 of the standard
edition). A manuscript of Jamieson's, containing
the same ballads, has been most liberally placed in
my hands by Dr. David Laing, but it is desirable
to see both versions.
May I once more ask the attention of those who
are interested in ballads to these missing Tytler
MSS. (of which the family at present know nothing),
and also to one more desideratum, the Glenriddell
MS., compiled by Mr. Riddell of Glenriddell, and
lent to Scott by Mr. Jollie, bookseller at Carlisle ?
F. J. CHILD.
Harvard College, Cambridge, Mass.
HERALDRY AT MELROSE. —
" In the south transept (of the Abbey) is a deeply and
richly moulded Gothic portal. Over the point of the
arch is carved a shield, bearing the royal arms of Scot-
land, a lion rampant within a double tressure." — Morton's
Monastic Annals of Teviotdale, Edinburgh, 1832, p. 252.
During a recent visit, I observed that the royal
arms are represented to the sinister. There is a
tradition concerning the south window similar to
that of the Prentice's Pillar at Roslin; hence, pro-
bably, the error. In lieu of the ancient and appro-
priate rebus of a mell (Anglice, a mallet) and a rose,
found carved upon one of the Abbey stones, and
set in the wall of the old town-hall, there has been
sculptured upon the front of a new building an
escutcheon charged with a rose, in chief a hauberk
between two helmets. A shield of equal size dis-
plays the armorial insignia of the ducal family of
Buccleuch.' J. MANUEL.
Newcastle-upon-Tyne.
TOMB OF THE COUNTESS OF ALBANY AT FLO-
RENCE.— The remains of the Countess of Albany,
widow of Prince Charles Edward Stuart, repose in
the Capella del S. Sagramento, in the splendid
basilica of Santa Croce, in Florence. Not long
ago, when visiting the church, I made a copy of
her epitaph, which may interest some readers of
"N. &Q.":—
"Hie sitaest
Aloisia e Principibvs Stolbergis
Albanise Comitissa.
Genere forma moribvs incomparabili animi candore
Praeclarissima.
Hannonise Montibvs Nata.
Vixit annos Ixxii menses iv dies ix
Obiit Florentise die xxix mensis Janvarii
Anno Domini MDCCCXXIV
Grati animi et devotae reverentias
Monvmentvm."
The monument erected by her to the memory of
Alfieri is in the same church. J. WOODWARD.
The Parsonage, Montrose, N.B.
" Quiz." — I have heard that the origin of this
word occurred in this wise. The father of the
orator and statesman, Richard Brinsley Sheridan,
when lessee of the Old Crow Street Theatre, Dublin,
being at a supper-party one Saturday night, and
the conversation turning upon the subject of coin-
ing words, offered to bet a dozen of wine that he
could coin a word which would be in the mouths
of all Dublin next day. The bet was taken, and
the party dispersed. Sheridan immediately sum-
moned his call-boys and supers, gave each a piece
of chalk, and ordered them to run all over the city
and chalk the word " quiz " on every door, shutter,
and hoarding they came to. This was done ; the
next day the word was in every one's mouth, and
Sheridan won his bet. J. N. B.
[In Colman's Heir-al-Law, first acted in 1797, Dr.
Pangloss says, " A ' Gig,' umph ! That's an Eton phrase.
The Westminsters call it ' Quiz.' "J
A MAN OF MANY NAMES. — The following entry
occurs in the parish registers of Oldswinford,
Worcestershire : —
" 1676. Dancell Dallphebo Marke Anthony Dallery
Gallery Cesar Williams, sonn of Dancall (sic) Dallphebo
Marke Anthony Dallery Gallery Cesar Williams, bapt.
Jan. xviij."
H. S. G.
LONDON CRIES. — I heard this verse of a very
old waterman's song, from a very old gentleman,
on the occasion of the last overflow of the Thames :
" Two pence to London Bridge, three pence to the Strand,
Four pence, Sir, to Whitehall Stairs, or else you will go
by Land."
E. G. P.
THE LONDON "BOOKSELLER'S" AMERICAN
CHOROGRAPHY. — The Bookseller (February 3), in
a review of a book on the Wonders of the Yelloiv-
stone Region in the Rocky Mountains, states that
this region is " about half-way between the Missis-
sippi and the Atlantic," and " nearly nine hundred
miles west of New York"! True, the mere dis-
tance of 2,000 miles or so is regarded as a trifling
matter in the United States ; but as an error in
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chorography, it seems rather wide. Perhaps, how-
ever, the Bookseller meant to write Pacific instead
of Atlantic. At any rate, that would have been
twice " nine hundred miles " nearer the mark, at
least. G. L. H.
Greenville, Ala.
tihttttaf.
[We must request correspondents desiring information
on family matters of only private interest, to affix their
names and addresses to their queries, in order that the
answers may be addressed to them direct.]
WELD OF LULWORTH CASTLE, AND CHIDEOCK
HOUSE, DORSET. — There are, unfortunately, con-
flicting opinions among genealogists respecting the
origin of the Welds of Lulworth Castle. Some
of the authorities trace the descent of this old
Catholic race to Edric the Saxon. Other writers
hesitate to deduce the lineage of the Welds from
a period further back than the reign of Edward III.
Burke, in his Landed Gentry, 1848, vol. ii., title
" Weld of Lulworth," says : " The family of Weld
derives from Edric, surnamed Wild, or Sylvaticus,
who was nephew to Eiric, Duke of Mercia, hus-
band of Edina, dau. of King Ethelred." Burke,
however, in some editions of his works, alludes in
terms of doubt and hesitation to the circumstance
of the Welds being sprung from Edric the Saxon.
The editors of the third edition of Hutchins's
Dorset, 1861, vol. i. part ii. pp. 372-373, adopt a
similar course in dealing with this difficult and
intricate question ; but, on the other hand, it will be
found, upon consulting the three editions of the
County History,* that it is clearly and distinctly
asserted on a monumental inscription at East Lul-
worth, but which is " now removed altogether from
the church," that Edric the Saxon was unquestion-
ably the progenitor of this ancient and venerable
gentle house. I conceive this would be presump-
tive evidence in a court of law. Ormerod's Cheshire,
vol. ii. p. 131, commences the Weld pedigree tempore
Edward III., but (I believe) it is stated in p. 130
of that publication that the Welds have resided at
Eaton, in Cheshire, from the reign of Henry III.
to that of Charles II., when they removed to New-
bold Astbury. I have not a copy of Ormerod in
my library, and consequently I am not able to
verify the accuracy of the quotation for myself.
I understand that the Eecords of the County
Palatine of Chester contain names of the Welds
to the most remote reigns of the Plantagenets.
Shirley, in his Noble and Gentle Men of England,
1860, p. 77, observes that the family was "founded
by William Weld, Sheriff of London, in 1352,
who married Anne Wittenhall ; his posterity were
* First edition, 1774, vol. i. p. 142 ; third edition, 1861,
vol. i. part iii. p. 379. The names of the first eight
ancestors of the Welds are given on the tablet in lineal
succession. The list begins with Edric himself.
seated at Eaton, in Cheshire, till the reign of
Charles II." I am happy to be enabled to say
that I am prepared to prove that this theory of
Shirley is wholly incorrect, and does great injustice
to the high claims of the Welds to equestrian and
patrician extraction. Sir Gilbert Dethick, Garter
King at Arms, in a " Grant of Crest to John Weld,
of Eton (qy. Eaton), Gentleman, (dated) 10th
April, 1552," incidentally refers to " William
Weld, Alderman and Sheriff of London the
xxviij'h yeare of King Edwarde the thyrde, whose
Auncestors Jiave byn the bearers of thers tokens and
auncient Armes of Honnor." This extract from
Dethick incontrovertibly establishes the fact that
William Weld had a long line of predecessors
previous to the fourteenth century.
I am informed that the authorities at the Heralds'
College have, on some occasion, indirectly and in-
ferentially admitted that the Welds of Lulworth
Castle are descended from Edric the Saxon. Per-
haps some of your correspondents, distinguished
for their learning and powers of research, will be
kind enough to assist me in endeavouring to arrive
at a satisfactory conclusion upon a subject which
has hitherto defied all the united efforts of heralds,
antiquaries, and archaeologists.
THOMAS PARR HENNING.
Sidmouth.
P.S. I recollect seeing many years since a list
of Saxon gentry in "N. & Q." The name of
" Weld of Lulworth " occurs amongst the families
enumerated.
" SOLIDARITY." — In a number of Mr. Buskin's
Fors Clavigera, that eccentric genius confesses his
ignorance of the true meaning of proletary. Are
the world at large in England better informed as
to the true meaning of solidarity ? Be that as
it may, its derivation is by no means obvious.
Dr. John Brown, who, in his Horce Subsecivce,
1866, p. 301, sneers at Dr. Richardson for con-
founding s'nails with snails, speaks, at p. 283, of
" the solidarity of binocular vision." Surely a more
amusing Malapropism never was committed. It is
easy to say that it was a misprint for solidity
(credat Judceus !) ; but my belief is that the writer
did not know the meaning of the word he used.
What is its history ? How and when did it arise ?
Whence comes it to the French ? Is it from soldus,
solidus, firm, secure : whence solde, payment (soli-
dare, a small coin ; solder, to pay ; soldat, a mer-
cenary); solidaire, adj., obligatory; subs., security
for payment : whence solidarity ? Or is it from
sodalis, a sharer, one of several mutually bound:
whence sodalitas, a secret society I — and so it may
lave come to pass that solidarite is sodalite" by
metonymy. JABEZ.
Athenaeum Club.
HAWTHORN. — Can any of your readers say
whether the superstition is a general one, that it is
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unlucky for hawthorn to be in bloom before the
1st of May ; and what the origin of the supersti-
tion can be 1 E. J. C.
SILVER COIN. — I ask for some information
regarding a small silver coin in my hands. On
one side there is a segment of a circle, with a
monogram (V containing an F) inside it ; above
this there appears a small coronet or crown, with
the date 1625 over it. Bound the circle is the
legend " DEO . ET . PATRIA." On the other side,
and inside a circle, there is M^RC with these
words inscribed round it, " VON FEINEM SILBER."
S.
STRYPE, THE HISTORIAN. — The life of Strype,
in the Bibliotheca Britannica, gives no particulars
of his wife and children. Is there any printed life
of him which gives this information in detail 1
TEWARS.
SCRUPE. — An ancient and well-known family
aame has been written Scrupe, Scroop, Scrope.
What is known about the etymology of this name 1
G. F. B.
" THE JESSAMY BRIDE." — Is the origin known
•of this epithet, applied to Miss Mary Horneck by
Ooldsinith and Eeynolds 1 E. A. B.
PARKER'S London Magazine, 1845, has an ac
•count of the representation of the Antigone o
Sophocles on the London stage, with some origina
translations. Who was the author of this article
E. INGLIS.
HERALDIC. — To what family do these arm
belong : a fesse embattled, in chief two saltires, in
base a garb ; crest, on a garb, a bird rising 1
These arms and crest are on an old seal, but the
tinctures are not visible. W. G. D. F.
THE KEGISTER OF SANDLOFT CHAPEL. — I am
extremely anxious to know where the parish regis-
ter of Sandloft Chapel, in the parish of Belton, in
the Isle of Axholme, now is. It was a place of
worship used by the Dutch and Flemish settlers
in that district, in the seventeenth century. The
late Mr. Joseph Hunter, the south Yorkshire his-
torian, told me that he had seen it, and made some
notes therefrom, but he was unable to tell me
where it then was. EDWARD PEACOCK.
Bottesford Manor, Brigg.
KNURR- AND-SPELL PLAYING. — What is this
amusement, referred to in a case heard lately at
the West Kiding Court House, Wakefield, where
it was stated in evidence that a check-weighman
at a neighbouring colliery had proclivities for this,
and for dog-racing, and other " similar-amuse-
ments " 1 WILLIAM BLOOD.
Liverpool.
OATHS. — Perhaps " N. & Q." can help me to
ome curious lines on oaths, written, I believe, on
the fly-leaf of a MS. in the University Library,
Cambridge. The last lines are, if I am not mis-
taken : —
Soe custome got decorum by gradation,
Masse, cross, faith, troth out swornej're came damna-
tion."
G. S.
BIBLIOGRAPHY OF SODA WATER. — In "The
Pursuits of Fashion: a Satirical Poem" (London,
1810), I find, in the section devoted to "the
Coffee-house Cornet, or Back of the Second Set,"
these lines : —
" Be silent the coffee-room, hushed ev'ry noise ;
Stop drawing that soda ; keep quiet those boys."
Has any earlier mention of soda water, as a
beverage sold in taverns, been noted 1 I cannot
remember any ; although " soda-powders " (which
Byron in Italy bade Murray in London send him
in lieu of poetry) seem to have been sold by
druggists for some length of time prior to the
publication of the poem I have quoted.
G.-A.S.
Brompton.
P.S. — The popularity of soda water among
subalterns so early as 1810 convicts the illustrious
author of Vanity Fair of a slight error. Mr.
Thackeray, in picturing the manners of 1815,
pathetically lamented that a gentleman who, at
that period, had drunk too much 'rack punch at
Vauxhall over-night, had no more refreshing drink
than small beer to cool his parched throat withal
in the morning. Yet, from the foregoing, it seems
clear that Jos Sedley, when " seedy," might have
had, long before '15, ready resource to " Soda and
BB."
PSEUDONYMOUS WORKS BY " A LADY." — I
should be obliged for the names of the authors of
any of the following : —
1. Adamina, a Novel. 2 vols. London, Vernon &
Hood, 1801.
2. Addresses, with Prayers and Original HynnS.
London, Norwich, S. Wilkin (printed), 1826.
3. Ailzie Grierson. Edinburgh, John Jolmstone, 1846*.
4. Almeda; or, the Neapolitan Revenge. A Tragic
Drama." London, Symonds, 1801.
5. An Alphabet of Animals (in verse). London, Lei-
cester (printed), 1865.
6. The Althorpe Picture Gallery, and other Poetical
Sketches. Edinburgh, Blackwood (Aberdeen printed),
1836. Dedicated to Lady Peel.
The authoress says the poem was suggested by
Mrs. Jameson's Althorpe. OLPHAR HAMST.
New Barnet, Herts.
STONE JUG.— I have in my possession (tem-
porarily) a white ash-coloured stone jug, 104 inches
high ; the neck quite straight from the globe of the
jug, and 3 inches high. The jug is covered nearly
all over with blue enamel, in the shape of flowers,
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sprays, scrolls, &c., and on the front of the jug is
slightly raised medallion, with a royal crown in th
same colour as the body of the jug, and abou
double the size of a five-shilling piece. In th
•centre of the medallion are the two letters, G. R
in blue enamel, and round the centre of the jug
in a band, in letters of an inch high, in blu
enamel, is the following inscription (in the sain
characters as the G. R. above), " Ich, Hab, Ein
Sehr, Boes Weib." The jug, of which I desire t
know the history and value, had originally a silve
top to it, but this has been lost for many years
the rivet-marks are plainly visible where it was
I know the meaning of the inscription, but what i
alludes to I do not, and want to find out.
G. R.
[The inscription probably reflected the sentiment o
*' G. R." for his wife, Caroline of Brunswick.]
THE HOITSE OF GIB. — On the top of the hill o:
Mormond, in the Buchan district of Aberdeenshire
there are the ruins of a small hunting lodge. Over
the doorway is the somewhat quaint inscription in
rude characters, "This hunting Lodge Rob Gib
commands." I have recently seen several notices
of the house of Gib, in which particular mention
is made of Sir Robert Gib, Master of the Horse,
and Familiar Servitor to James V. of Scotland.
Had the Rob Gib of the hunting lodge, on the top
of Mormond Hill, any connexion with the Master
of the Horse to the somewhat eccentric, but much
beloved, "King, of the Commons," as James V.
was called 1 I may state that I made inquiries
on the spot, at least in the immediate neighbour-
hood, but with the usual result in similar cases,
that the ruins had always been there, and nothing
was known concerning either them or Rob Gib.
I shall be glad to receive any information relating
to the matter. G. W.
ARMS OF NEW PLYMOUTH. — What arms, or
flag, or other ensign, or emblem, is used by the
town of New Plymouth, in Massachusetts, or by
the State of Massachusetts 1 I shall be greatly
obliged to any reader of " N. & Q." who will give
me the information direct. JOHN SHELLY.
Frankfort Chambers, Plymouth.
ON THE ELECTIVE AND DEPOSING POWER
OF PARLIAMENT.
(4th S. xii. 321, 349, 371, 389, 416, 459; 5th S. i.
130, 149, 169, 189, 209, 229.)
I am sorry that I cannot allow W. F. F. to go
on further with his subject without again inter-
rupting him ; but I think that all readers of
" N. & Q." will agree that I have a right to, at
least, try to answer his argument, and to correct
some errors into which he has fallen. His reply
was so lengthy, that I must apologize if my answer
extends beyond, what some may deem, all reason-
able limits. In the first place, I may remark that
my opponent has made a very important reservation
(p. 169) : after having argued that before the Con-
quest " the rule of hereditary succession was never
departed from," he adds that " the idea of here-
ditary succession then existing was different from
ours"; explaining that, though the principles of
representation and of female succession were not
adopted, yet the fact that the crown never went
out of the family (cases of violence of course ex-
cepted) proves that the crown was not elective, i. e,
that it was hereditary.
Now, this position is exactly that which I main-
tain. I never, for a moment,. thought or said that
the crown was open to any one who might be elected
(as the Empire was, at least in theory). My point
has always been (I again repeat) that, though the
crown always remained in one family (the cases
of the Danish kings and Harold II. excepted), yet
within that family the pure principle of election
prevailed. I fail, however, to see the force of
W. F. F.'s remark, that if the crown was thus not
elective (i. e. out of the family) it must be here-
ditary (within that family).
If this is what my learned opponent means, we
are of the same opinion ; but I submit that this
is not the usual sense attached to the expression
hereditary succession."
In support of his view W. F. F. urges that, on
the death of Harthacnut, the Abingdon Chronicle
says that the people acknowledged the son of
j33thelred II. (*. e. Edward the Confessor) as
dng, "as was his right of birth." But, as Mr.
Freeman has pointed out, the elective and the here-
ditary principles were already supported by different
)arties ; the pure form of the latter tending to
encroach on the pure form of the former. And it
should be recollected that the Peterborough Chro-
nicle expressly asserts Edward's election.
Again, it is said that " it is idle to dream of the
Saxons as controlled by councils." Milton, Burke,
Mackintosh, and Hallajn are cited in support of
his assertion ; also Yeatman, whose authority as
,n historian seems to be impaired by his extra-
rdinary views as to the genuineness of the
Chronicle, the origin of the name Angli, &c. Such
in assertion, coming from one who has read the
laborate chapters on the Old English Constitution
in Mr. Stubbs's new History, is strange indeed, and
an only be excused by the imperious demands of
preconceived theory.
The two instances of deposition quoted by Mr.
jtubbs are the cases of Alcred of Northumbria,
nd Sigebert of Wessex.
As regards the former, Simeon of Durham (the
reat authority for all northern, and especially
Northumbrian matters) says, " consilio et consensu
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suorum omnium .... exilio imperil mutavit
majestatem."
As regards the latter, the Chronicle says (ann.
755) : " This year Cynewulf and the West Saxon
witan deprived Sigebert of his kingdom, except
Hampshire, for his unjust doings " ; and Henry of
Huntingdon says: "Proceres et populus totius
regni congregati sunt et provida deliberatione et
unanimi consensu omnium, expulsus est a regno :
Cynewulf vero .... electus est in regern."
No one expects to find in those times a full
grown Parliament, with two Houses sitting apart,
passing a bill with the ceremonies and intricate
forms of the present day. This is only found very
much later. As Mr. Stubbs says, "The depositions
of Alcred and Sigebert may have been the result
of a conspiracy, and those of the others (i. e.,
various minor kings of Northumbria) may have
been determined in a witenagernot, all under the
inspiration of a competitor for the throne : but in
these cases, on any theory, the deposition was
decreed in the National Council." He says just
before, " The depositions of Alcred and Sigebert
stand out as two regular and formal acts ; the
authority by which they were sanctioned being
fully, though briefly stated, the deposition not
being followed by murder, and in one case provision
being made for the support of the royal dignity."
Such is the opinion of the first living constitutional
historian, which I cite not as an original authority,
but as the matured judgment of one who has de-
voted to constitutional history the labour of a life-
time, and whose learning is universally recognized
both in England and on the Continent.
Cnut certainly did not " assume the sovereignty
of all England by conquest " ; nor do I understand
how the Chronicle in any way bears out Mr.
Yeatman's amazing statement, that he was really
the first sovereign of England ; for ^Ethelstan was
supreme sovereign up to the Forth, and superior
lord of all the Celtic princes in other parts of Eng-
land. He, not Cnut, is the first sovereign of
England, owing to the great victory, at Bru-
nanburh, over the Danes, Scots, and Welsh of
Strath Clyde.
The question of Cnut's election is very com-
plicated ; but in no case did he obtain the whole
kingdom of England after the battle of Assandun ;
for it was divided, at the Conference of Olney,
between Edmund Ironside and himself ; and what
Mr. Carlyle calls a " heritage brotherhood " was
apparently agreed on. It was mainly owing to
this, which was, 'in essence, an act of recommenda-
tion by Edmund to his people, that Cnut was
formally elected on that gallant king's death.
Any one who wishes to go deeper into the general
subject of election of early kings in England will find
the references for each case in Mr. Stubbs's History,
p. 136, note 1.
W. F. F.'s account of the proceedings after
Hastings is not quite clear. It is quite true that
all the chief men submitted to William at Berk-
lamstead ; but we also hear of an invitation to
assume the crown, which was accepted and ratified
by the solemn coronation. William's whole posi-
iion was anomalous ; but he was not a mere in-
vader reigning by the sword, as Thierry tries to
make him out. No one pretends that he was
lected in exactly the same sense as the great kings
of Wessex were ; yet he certainly was legally
elected, and his whole reign shows that he tried to
rule in an impartial and thoroughly national spirit.
His object in getting elected and crowned was to
be able to avail himself of the sort of awe which
the rite of coronation inspired. My opponent,
however, is in error in supposing that " the igno-
rant monkish chroniclers regarded the coronation
as an election." I have already (p. 150) adduced
several passages to show that coronation meant the
attaching the sanction of the church to the choice
of the nation, but that the election was a totally
distinct thing. An extract from a charter (Cod.
Diplom. ccccxi.) will illustrate my meaning.
Speaking of Eadred, it says : " Electione opti-
rnatum subrogatus, pontifical! auctoritate est rex
consecratus."
What the " blunder " of the chroniclers is, I do
not pretend to know. Hume, in the passage cited,
does not correct any blunder, but merely states the
influence of the rite of coronation in the Middle
Ages. Stubbs (pp. 144-6) and Bryce (Holy Roman
Empire, 4th ed., p. 198, note k) give a good account
of the exact effects which it was held to produce.
My opponent then goes on to infer that, because
the king guaranteed hereditary rights in his
charters, his own office must have been hereditary.
But we must distinguish between feudalism as a
land-tenure and feudalism as a mode of government.
The former was naturally retained by the Norman
kings ; the latter was rejected by the Conqueror
both in Normandy and in England, because of the
attendant evils. Hence he could easily grant lands
to be held in hereditary succession without any
reference to that of the crown. Besides, it may be
doubted whether, at that early period, " heir " was
taken in the technical sense of the English law, as
implying descent : perhaps, rather, in the sense of
the Civil law, as meaning any one who is named
successor, without any reference to descent.
The value of the case of Cospatric obtaining the
earldom of Northumbria, owing to his maternal
descent, as related by Simeon of Durham, is this :
that the idea of hereditary succession was begin-
ning to have weight with reference to great fiefs,
but it does not prove anything as to the hereditary
succession to the crown, save the fact that that
idea had some influence in the election of a king.
Besides, though Simeon says "attinebat ad eum
honor illius comitatus," because of this descent, lie
adds, "Cospatricus adiens Willelmuni regem multti
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emptum pecunid adeptus est comitatum," i. e., he
was regarded as having some sort of claim, but
this had to be backed up by gold and ratified by a
new grant from the king. This, be it recollected,
happened in the autumn of 1067. The quotation
from West " On Peers " is a short statement of the
lawyer's idea of a perfect feudal kingdom ; but it
has no application to England, which was not a
perfect feudal kingdom, but a nearly perfect
Teutonic one. W. A. B. C.
(To be continued.)
I do not much, like interposing in the able and
very interesting discussion upon this topic, but it
seems to me that the arguments of both parties are
wide of the mark. They admit that the Parlia-
ment of the United Kingdom is composed of the
Crown, the Lords, and the Commons, and yet
argue the question as to the Lords and Commons
electing or deposing the sovereign ; but if it is the
act of two branches of the Legislature, how can
it be the act of the Parliament, which requires the
concurrence of the three branches ?
Your correspondents seem to be unaware that
there is a solemn and unanimous decision of the
Irish Court of Queen's Bench in re Lord Dillon's
case (Charles I.), that " the feudal system " existed
in England previous to what is known as the
Norman Conquest, and that Sir Henry Spelman's
treatise on Feuds was written as a reply to that
decision, which he held to be erroneous. The latter
work was not published until after the death of
the writer.
Neither of them seems to me to have given suffi-
cient force to the difference between peerages by
tenure and nobility by patent. In the former the
barons were peers or equals of the monarch; in the
latter, being created by the sovereign, they were
subordinate. Peerages by tenure, now nearly ex-
tinct, existed in the Saxon times; and the creation
by patent, which was almost simultaneous in Eng-
land and France, commenced at a much later
period. There might have been a power of depo-
sition and election inherent among Peers who held
their lands and titles by an equal right as the
monarch, although such right could not belong to
a patented nobility, yet George IV. admitted his
equality with the Peers when he tried Queen Caro-
line before them.
The Bill of Rights (temp. William III.) shows
that the Lords and Commons met not in Parlia-
ment but in convention, that they declared against
James II., and in favour of William III. The latter
was accepted as sovereign, and, when monarch,
Acts of Parliament were passed confirming what
had been done. The Bill of Rights, though found
among the statutes, as an expression of principle,
is nowhere described as an Act of Parliament,
simply because the sovereignty was in abeyance,
and it was contrary to the theory of the Constitu-
tion to make laws without the concurrence of the
three estates of the realm.
William I. claimed the throne of England as a
bequest from Edward the Confessor. His Norman
subjects were feudally bound only to aid him in.
the defence of Normandy, and he had to purchase
their assistance by promises of reward. The Eng-
lish nobles who opposed him were despoiled because
they were in arms against their sovereign, their
feudal lord, and their estates were given to the
Norman nobles as payment for services, but their
descendants claimed that they won them by their
own swords, and held them almost independent of
the sovereign. The long wars of the Plantagenets
were actuated by the desire to make the lands of
the nobles hereditary, and to abolish the custom of
investiture and the performance of homage. That
was attained at Bosworth, but the relative position
of the Sovereign and the Peers was altered, and
therefore the setting up and knocking down of the
kings during the Wars of the Roses, those exam-
ples of force guided by a definite end, hardly form
precedents as to the power of Parliament, or rather
of two branches of the Legislature to .alter the third.
The only defence of such changes lies in the
public necessity, and is, in fact, revolution. The
Lords and Commons have no more legal right to
depose or elect the Sovereign than the Crown and
the Commons would have to depose the Peers, or
the Crown and the Peers to efface the Commons.
It may be necessary to make changes by force, but
is it not paradoxical to suppose that Parliament
composed of three estates may consist of only two,
and that the remaining portion has all the legal
rights attaching to the entire 1
JOSEPH FISHER.
Waterford.
P.S.— Does W. F. F. (5th S. i. pp. 301, 302)
mean that the true construction of the Act of
Henry VII. which he quotes is that, in the event
of Elizabeth of York dying before her intended
husband, or dying without issue, Henry VII.
would cease to be king ; and in the former case
would her son succeed to the throne, and in the
latter, would the heirs of the Duke of Clarence 1
I have no intention, as I have no manner of
right, to interpose in the controversy between
W. F. F. and W. A. B. C. ; but I beg permission
for a few words upon a statement, which, if left to
stand as it does, cannot fail to convey an erroneous
impression. W. A. B. C. says: — "Now (1.)
Florence of Worcester (ann. 1016) distinctly
asserts the election of Cnut ' cujus (i. e. ^Ethelredi)
post mortem episcopi, abbates, duces et quique
nobiliores Angliae in unum congregati pari con-
sensu et regem sibi Canutum elegere .... om-
nemque progeniem regis j<Ethelredi repudiantes,
jacem cum eo composuere et fidelitatem illi jura-
vere.' " From which it is made to appear that
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this transaction was one of general consent ; that
the election of Canute was the unanimous act of
the whole governing body of the realm. Let us
read a little more, and we shall see. Only one
line on, we come to this : —
"At Gives Londonienses, et pars nobilium, qui eo
tempore consistebant Londoniae, Clitcmem Eadmundum
unanimi consensu in regem levavere. Qui solii regalis
sublimatus culmine, intrepidus Westsaxoniam rediit sine
cunctatione, et ab omni populo magna susceptus gratu-
latione, suae ditioni subegit earn citissime." — Floren.
Wigorn.,&VJ,iQ\. 1601.
I submit, therefore, that this pretended Parlia-
ment was nothing better than a faction or cabal —
nothing more than a packed council.
As to the quotation " Foedus etiam cum princip-
ibus et omni populo ipse et illi cum ipso
percusserunt," let any one read the whole chapter,
and he will have no difficulty in seeing how that
carne about. During Edmund's lifetime, the
kingdom, by agreement, was divided between them,
but Edmund's more rightful claim was recognized
by the fact that he was allowed to keep the crown :
" Corona tamen regni Eadmundo remansit."
Canute's succession was a manifest instance of
might against right, only allowed and acknow-
ledged when the nation had no longer power to
resist it with success. That it was a free and
voluntary election, I unhesitatingly deny, feeling
sure, on the contrary, that they would not have
had him if they could have helped themselves.
But, as things stood, they felt, no doubt, that " dis-
cretion was the better part of valour."
EDMUND TEW, M.A.
ENGLISH SURNAMES (5th S. i. 262, 330.)— I
cannot but think MR. SALA, who has been kind
enough to notice my book on English Surnames in
" N. & Q.," has made a mistake in recommending
attention to Cowell's list of surnames. Both he
and Verstigan wrote at the beginning of the seven-
teenth century, and added little to the nothing
that was then known on the subject. The study
cannot have been said to have begun till Camden's
Kemaines were published in 1614. Take several
derivations from Verstigan : " ' Rows,' of his mak-
ing a noise " : this is simply the " le Rous," or
" Rouse," of the Hundred Rolls, a nickname of
complexion. " ' Drew,' of sadness " : this again is
nothing but the old Christian name "Dru," or
" Drew." " ' Stone,' of some cause concerning it."
This is so general that whether he refers to the
physical malady or some local prominence I can-
not say. Cowell, his contemporary, is no better.
My proofs shall be MR. S ALA'S own quotations.
Mediaeval records give us " Osbert Diabolus," or
" Roger le Diable," on the one hand, and " Goscelin
de Eyville," or " John de Eyville," on the other.
Who, after this, can pay serious attention to
Cowell's "de David Villa" as the origin of
"Devil" Look again at " Stradling." This is
one of a class of nicknames which could not but
'orce itself into our Directories, viz., peculiarity of
gait. Thus the amble is represented (when not
occupative) by " Ambler," the shuffle by " Shaylor"
and " Shayler," the hop by " Lilter," the shamble
by " Shambler " and " Scambler," the toddle by
Toddler," and the straddle by " Stradling."
Eence such entries in our old rolls as " Ralph le
Anibuler," " Ralph le Todeler," " Robert le Liltere,"
or " Edward Stradelyng." You have not space
references, so I will only say that the last,
being the name in question, is found in Proc. and
Ord. Privy Council. Cowell, however, derives
Stradling" from " Easterling " ! What will our
Sterlings say to this 2 That " Stanley " and
Stoneleigh " are the same, MR. SALA may see by
a comparison of " Gledstane," or " Gladstone "
(p. 490), and " Ley " and " Leigh " (p. 93). " Mai-
pas," which MR. SALA also says I have omitted,
lie will find incidentally explained on p. 126 n.
MR. SALA says, "It is amazing to find Mr.
Bardsley treating ' Fawkes,' or ' Vaux ' [MR. SALA
begs the question from the start, you see], as a
Christian name, and deriving it, together with
'Foulkes,' 'Fakes,' ' Faulks,' 'Folkes,' 'Foakes,'
Faxson,' and ' Fawson,' from the Norman ' Fulk,'
or ' Foulques.' Were this derivation correct, ' Guy
Fawkes' would have had two Christian names,
' Guido Foulques/ and would have had no proper
surname at all." Then follows Cowell's " Vaux."
However amazing it may seem to MR. SALA, I am
firmly convinced that I am right. He begins with
a serious slip when he says that " Guy Fawkes "
could have no surname according to my account,
but would have two Christian names ; that is, as
MR. SALA will have it, our " Thomas Williams,"
or " Ralph Jones," or " Adain Philips," possess no
surname, but only two Christian names, forgetting
that one of our largest class of surnames is com-
posed of these very patronymics. But I do not
wish to take advantage of a mere slip of the pen.
MR. SALA'S premises may be false, and yet his
assertion correct. But I believe his assertion to
be untrue also. In matters like this, where doubt
exists, the only appeal can be that to registers.
Let me give you a short string of entries of the
period of surname-formation, first the Christian
name "FouJques," then the surname as formed
from it, "Fowlke Grevill" (Cal. Proceedings
in Chancery), "Fawke de Coudrey" (Hundred
Rolls), "Fauke de Glamorgan" (Rotuli Litt.
Claus.), " Falkes de Breant," found also as " Faukes
de Breant " (Hundred Rolls), " Faukes le Buteller "
(Hundred Rolls), "Edmund Falkes" (Rolls of
Parliament), " Nel Faukes" (Hundred Rolls).
Without giving more instances, I leave the matter
with your readers. MR. SALA is right, and I am
wrong, in the matter of "William le Orbater."
As he says, "It is not an admixture, it is wholly
Norman-French."
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353
I have also to thank MR. SALA for his notice of
my book. It is the high literary position he has
attained that makes me feel the danger of his
recommending to general notice such an untrust-
worthy record as that of Cowell.
CHARLES WAREING BARDSLEY.
Higher Broughton, Manchester.
DESTRUCTION OF PERSONAL PROPERTY ON THE
DEATH OP A GIPSY (2nd S. iii. 442.)— Early in the
present year an inquest was held on the body of a
gipsy, Lementinia Smith, who died at Wood Hayes
under suspicious circumstances. It was at first
suspected that she had been poisoned by her para-
mour, George Lovell, and much excitement was
caused in the neighbourhood of Wolverhampton
and Birmingham. Her funeral was attended by a
large number of gipsies, whot after the ceremony,
burnt the van (or covered cart) in which she had
lived, together with her various articles of clothing,
&c. This was mentioned in the local papers as an
instance of vengeance on the part of the gipsies,
who were represented as being indignant with the
woman for bringing disgrace upon their tribe.
But was it not the very reverse, and*did not they
destroy the van, &c., as a means of showing re-
spect ? It must be observed that the woman was
buried with every outward demonstration of regard,
and that no expense was spared over her funeral ;
and it seems to be worth while inquiring of those
who are familiar with gipsy customs, whether the
destruction of her property was not meant as a
mark of respect. So far back as June 6, 1857, I
gave an account in " N. & Q." (under the title that
heads this note) of a circumstance narrated to me
by a trustworthy person concerning the " grand "
funeral of a gipsy, followed by the destruction of
liis property, clothes, blankets, fiddle, books, and
his grindstone, the last being thrown into the river
Severn, and the others burnt. On that occasion I
asked, " Is this destruction of his personal property
usual on the death of a gipsy ?" This query has
never been answered ; so I now repeat it, the
recent death of Lementinia Smith having directed
public attention to this singular custom, if it be a
gipsy custom. (As a P.S., I may say that in the
General Index of the Second Series of " N. & Q."
the reference to my note is marked as being
at p. "124" instead of 443; the "124" being
repeated from the previous reference. The mis-
prints are so wonderfully rare in all the Indexes of
"N. & Q.," that the chances of correction are infi-
nitely small, and I do not point out the present
one in a captious spirit.) CUTHBERT BEDE.
" BLODIUS " (5th S. i. 167, 233.)— It is evident
from the inventories referred to by DR. EOCK that
the term " blodius " was used as the Latin equi-
valent of the English word " blue," as then em-
ployed. _ And I think this may be reconciled with
the received interpretation sanguineus, if we bear
in mind that very different shades of colour may
be included under one term. In one case we have
" Una secta blodia del bawdekyn pro Adventu et
Septuagesima " (York Fabric Bolls, appendix,
Surt. Soc., vol. xxxv. p. 233), which looks as if it
had been a sombre shade like our " violet," suitable
for these semi-penitential seasons. But on p. 230
we have several " Capse Blodiae " with ornaments
suggestive of festal use, for which something more
like " sky-blue " would be more suitable.* In the
Church Book of Thame, Oxon., is mention of " a
sute blew embroyded with gold, with anteloppes
and byrdes of gold, the orfraies with crockyns and
sterres of gold . . . the which by the consent of
the Parysh serveth for Whitsonday." " Item a
sute of blew the ground off braunches of gold, for
Trinytye Sondaye."t And DR. KOCK says, " In
Spain, and at Naples, I observed sky-blue vest-
ments are used on the festivals of the Blessed
Virgin Mary " (Ch. of Our F. ii. 259, n.). The
" blue " of the Old Testament was either " violet "
(Smith's Diet. Bible s. v. "Colours"), or "pure
sky-blue " (Speaker's Comm., Note ii. on Colours
of Tabernacle, vol. i. part i. p. 367). In both
these articles the subject is fully gone into. It
certainly seems strange if the same term was used
for blue and for dark red, but when we remember
how near to red what we now call " purple " may
come, and how often " violet " and " purple " are
confounded now, we may believe that the terms
" blodius " and " blue " were capable of a wide ap-
plication to all shades of blue and purple. " The
names of colours in all languages appear to have
been very vaguely used, until the progress of science
in connexion with the decorative arts has rendered
greater precision both possible and desirable," Sp.
Comm. as above cited, where this observation is
abundantly illustrated. I should, however, still
be glad of any further light that can be thrown
upon " Blodius," or on the mediaeval use of " blue"
(words or things). It may be noted that we com-
monly speak of livid spots as " blue " ; and in an
inscription in Almondbury Church (1522) we have
the line : —
"my body bloo with wonds both larg and long."
So in Prov. xx. 30, " the blueness of a wound ";
Vulg., "livor vulneris." Yet how different from
typical blue. J. T. F.
Hatfield Hall, Durham.
SIR PHILIP SIDNEY'S "ARCADIA" (5th S. i. 269.)
— Watt (Biblio. Brit.) says the Arcadia has been
modernized by Mrs. Stanley, 1725, folio.
SPARKS HENDERSON WILLIAMS.
"ADVENTURES OF AN ATTORNEY," &c., AND
" THE LIFE OF A LAWYER," &c. (4th S. xii. 348)
* Yet it may be questioned whether they had any
such colour in the Middle Ages.
f For these valuable extracts I am indebted to Dr,
F. G. Lee.
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[5th S. I. MAT 2, 74.
are both by Sir George Stephen, as to whom. CYRIL
can refer to several biographical dictionaries, and
The Handbook of Fictitious Names, pp. 47 and
216. OLPHAR HAMST.
HERALDIC (5th S. i. 48.) — The arms described
by G. A. C. are those of Prince Esterhazy, of
Hungary.
(5th S. i. 109.) — The quartering marked (1) is for
Eosseter of Somersetshire ; that marked (2), Beren-
den or Berondon, at least those families bear the
arms. I have no pedigree of the family of Here-
ford to refer to.
(5th S. i. 268.) — The arms are those of Seaman ;
the crest is a demi-seahorse, and not a demi-Pe-
gasus.
(4th S. xii. 109 ; 5th S. i. 116, 197.)— The words
" 3 garbs or" are omitted (p. 116) in the coat of
Rickards ; it should read arg. on a bend, engrailed,
vert, 3 garbs or. A. W. M.
Leeds.
REPUBLICAN CALENDAR (5th S. i. 281.) —
CRESCENT will find a complete " Calendrier R6-
publicain," 1793, in Arsene Houssaye's Histoire
de Notre Dame de Thermidor, Madame Tallien,
published by Henri Plon, Paris, 1866.
G. M. T.
ARCHBISHOP ADAMSON, OF ST. ANDREWS (5th
S. i. -268.) — My attention has been drawn to a
notice, in Iconographia Scotica, by John Pinkerton,
F.S.A. (Perth), London, 1797, of a portrait of this
worthy, then in the possession of Baillie Duff, Aber-
deen. It would be interesting to learn if this
portrait of the archbishop is still in existence, and
where. J. MANUEL.
Rose (Biographical Dictionary, 12 vols., 1857)
gives an account at some length of Patrick Adam-
son, Archbishop of St. Andrews at a very troubled
period. This is compiled from Spottiswoode's
Church History of Scotland, and Mackenzie's
Lives. There is a notice of him also in Biographie
Universelle, Paris, 1843-66.
SPARKS HENDERSON WILLIAMS.
18, Kensington Crescent, W.
" A RESIDENCE IN FRANCE " (5th S. i. 282.)— If
CRESCENT means Miss Helen Maria Williams, I
think he is wrong. I presume he was thinking of
a work, with a similar title, published by her ; and
that his suggestion was made without much re-
flection, as Miss Williams was too much in favour
of the French Revolution to have penned the para-
graph attributed to her. As to the above work,
see Bohn's Lowndes, Part iii., p. 832.
OLPHAR HAMST.
SHAKSPKARE GENERALLY READ IN 1655 (5th S.
i. 304.) — I think DR. NICHOLSON'S query as to
'Strype being the English Eusebius must be an-
swered in the negative. Strype's works belong to
about half a century after the date of the play in
which the phrase is found. May not Know- well
be referring a second time to Thomas Fuller, whose
Church History was published in 1655, and who
in his love of peace and moderation bore no little
similarity to the Father of Ecclesiastical History ?
The diverting character of the Holy War and
Church History is well known; and with respect
to the " stories " in the latter, Heylyn said : —
" Above all things recommend me to his m°rry ta'es
and scraps of trencher-jest^ frequently interlaced in till
parts of the history; which if abstracted from the rest,
and put into a book by themselves, mi^ht very well be
served up for a second course to The Kanqitet of Jests, a
supplement to the old book entitled Wits, Fits, an<l Fan-
cies, or an additional century to the Old Hundred Merry
Tales, so long since extant." — Animadversions, &c., In-
troduction.
JOHN E. BAILEY.
My " Strype (?) " was an inconsiderate guess, and
a wrong one. MR. BAILEY has most courteously
communicated to me his correction, and, if I may
venture to say so, I am disposed to believe with
him that the English Eusebius is Fuller rather
than Heylyn. B. NICHOLSON.
JOCK'S LODGE (4th S. vi. 27.) — This newspaper
extract answers G.'s query: —
" PIERSHILL BARRACKS. — These barracks are built on
the site of an old Scotchman's cabin, named ' J< ck.' The
amusing history of this man may be read in the adven-
tures of Harry Ogilvie, or the Black Dragoons.— J. W.
Alnwick."
J. MANUEL.
Newcastle-upon-Tyne.
"DAVID'S TEARES" (5th S. i. 288) is by Sir
John Hayward, the historian, some account of
whose life and works may be found in any bio-
graphical dictionary. It ought to possess a well-
engraved ti'le-page, portraying King David
kneeling, with outstretched hands, in a kind of
shallow arched recess, his harp by his side, his
sceptre and crown on the ground before him, his
face turned upwards and towards his left hand, on
which side a figure representing " Vengeance " is
leaning forward over the arch and aiming an arrow
at him ; on the other side the figure of " Mercie "
is holding out to him a scroll, with pendent seal,
inscribed "A pardon"; beneath either figure on
the front of the arch are various emblems of their
respective offices. Below the figure of David is the
title : " Davids | teares. | By Sr John Hayward |
Knight, Doc. of Lawe. | London. | Printed by John
Bill. 1623. | "
According to Lowndes, this title ought to be
faced by a portrait of the author. This my copy
unfortunately wants. The same authority values
the work at 10s. Qd., but does not refer to the sale
of a copy. In my experience, it cannot be called
a common book.
5'» S. I. MAT 2, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
355
Having done my best for PELAGITTS, may I be
allowed two queries in turn ? 1st. Is PELAGIUS
right in calling a work of 344pp. "a tract"? I
gather from Lowndes that there is only the one
edition of 1623, and therefore conclude that his
copy is (or ought to be) of the same bulk as mine.
2nd. Does Lowndes use the term " frontispiece "
correctly when he applies it, as in this case, to an
engraved title-page 1 Surely the portrait would
now more usually be called a frontispiece.
H. A. S.
Breadsall.
M.P.s FOR WOODSTOCK (5th S. i. 309.)— William
Thornton, M.P. in 1812, was a lieutenant-general
in the army ; he retired from the service the year
of his election, and died in 1841. He must not be
confounded with Sir William Thornton, K.C.B.,
also a lieutenant-general, who died in 1840.
John Gladstone, M.P. in 1820, was the father of
the late Premier. He was created a baronet in
1846, and died in 1851.
ALFRED B. BEAVEN, M.A.
POPLAR WOOD (5th S. i. 67, 96, 272.)— One of
your correspondents in a former number ques-
tioned the truth of a remark frequently made, that
this wood resisted the ravages of fire ; and described
the useless quality of poplar in India, where it is
burnt as common fuel. I cannot speak of the wood
he describes, but I can with confidence affirm that
in this country the poplar used for floors is wonder-
fully proof against fire, and when all the surround-
ing timber has been consumed, poplar floors will
remain unburnt. Such was the case at the great
fire at Luton Hoo, and also at Wynnstay. The
men of the Fire Brigade can corroborate this state-
ment. Unfortunately the trunk of the poplar-tree
is small, and supplies timber but in small scantling,
otherwise it would be a most valuable building
material. BENJ. FERRET.
THE SCOTTISH FAMILY OF EDGAR (5th S. i. 25,
75, 192.) — Although the author of this work is
" not a lawyer," he, nevertheless, shows a lawyer's
regard for proofs ; and, moreover, he does not stray
from the point in his discussion of undecided
descents. He assumes no authority in the matter,
but, at the same time, he relies on the proofs pro-
duced as authority of the highest character, and in
this the reader must support him, for his extracts
from the Archives of Scotland cannot be disputed ;
while, at the same time, he invites the opinions of
others in their interpretation.
While disregarding mere family tradition, he
accepts for discussion the historical tradition of
the origin of the Edgars of Wedderlie.
But X. would be saved much unnecessary trouble,
if he would take up my challenge to propound his
pedigree of the Eyemouth Edgars to the Lyon
King of Arms, without whose endorsement it is
useless to discuss the point, for, until the pedigree
receives the sanction of that authority, it can only
be placed in the category of " doubtful pedigrees ";
and it is but right that it should be so classed.
X. says that there were " not two Richards,
but only one," for "both Eichards married a
Margaret Bell." Here he errs (see Fed. of New-
toun, p. 112, «Scc.), for this is not exactly the point.
The real question is, were Andrew Edgar of Eye-
mouth, whose wife was named Grace Allen, and
Andrew of Farneyrigg, whose wife was named
Grissel Boudun, one and the same person ] Both
had sons named Andrew ; but while it was the as-
sumed brother of the former who was named
Eichard* (the son of a previous Eichard), it was
the son of the latter who was so named.
The names, localities, and time, being the same,
one Andrew might be mistaken for the other ; but
I do not know of any contemporaneous recorded
document in which Andrew, the husband of Grace
Allen, any more than Andrew, the husband of
Grissel Boudun. is shown to be the son of Eichard
Edgar of Newtoun, by his wife Eachael Maxwell.
This is the true difficulty.
As regards Oliver Edgar, who married Margaret
Pringle, I think that, by a collation of the evidence
at pp. 58, 66, 78, 101, &c., along with the records
of the lairds of Wedderlie, it seems clear that his
father was Eichard Edgar of Wedderlie. But this
is a question for the reader.
I should be glad to know what two descents
alluded to by X. have been omitted (which could
be proved) in either the tabulated pedigree of
Wedderlie or of Newtoun, for I have not noticed
any such omissions, and am sure that the author
would like to have them pointed out, as it is clear
that his object is to place the various pedigrees of
Edgar above suspicion, and in doing so rather to
fall short of the truth than to overstep it.t
SP.
"DESIER" (5th S. i. 148, 214.) — Desideria-
Desiderata was the name of the daughter of
Desiderius, King of Lombardy, who married Char-
le-magne, by whom she was afterwards divorced.
(James's History of Charlemagne, p. 148.)
The Sikhs of the Panjrib are called Zindah-
posh, steel-clothed, from their armour, and Eesh-
dar, or having beards, from their beards; and I
have always had an idea that they were originally
Longo-bards from Lombardy. E.
BALLAD ON MARTINMAS-DAY (5th S. i. 127,
194.) — Is it not at least possible that this ballad is
the composition of Dr. T. F. Forster, although pub-
lished by him as though an extract from some other
* He married Margaret Bell.
t This treatment, however, is not popular, and places
the Edgars at a disadvantage, compared with many other
families less scrupulously dealt with.
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5th S. I. MAY 2, 74.
work ? This writer was very fond of this mode of
publishing his own compositions, as any one will
testify who has endeavoured, of course without
success, to discover the Anthol. Austr. et Bar. and
the Florilegium, which, although quoted by Dr.
Forster as if independent works, have no separate
existence. This was satisfactorily established in
an early volume of " N. & Q."
JAMES BRITTEN.
British Museum.
[See " N. & Q.," 1st S. ix. 568; x. 108.]
I am obliged to E. V. for his references, and for
the information he has collected in reply to my
query. He tells me, however, nothing about.
" Girguntum " and " St. Leonard's well." Is
there no account of them in the authorities he
gives for the ballad itself? I cannot myself con-
sult them. I wish E. V., or any other reader of
" N. & Q.," would be good enough to place them
for me. W. D. B.
"Boss" (5th S. i. 221, 253.)— For the informa-
tion of those interested in the etymology of this
word, I quote the following lines from the Lady of
the Lake, 4th canto, 5th stanza: —
" That bull was slain : his reeking hide
They stretch'd the cataract beside,
Whose waters their wild tumult toss
Adown the black and craggy boss
Of that huge cliff, whose ample verge
Tradition calls the Hero's Targe."
F. D.
Nottingham.
In the Glossary appended to the complete edition
of the works of John Knox, edited by David Laing,
and published at Edinburgh (Stevenson) in 1848,
your correspondents will find that " bosses " are
there defined as being " drunkards." T. G. S.
Edinburgh.
If a scrap from a sick bed be admissible, I
would suggest that the American word " boss " is
merely a corruption of the Dutch word " baas "
(master, head of household) of the days of the
Hudsons, Van Rensselaers, and Stuyvessants.
" Baas " is still used, in the sense I have given,
amongst the Dutch-speaking colonists at the Cape
of Good Hope. CRESCENT.
Wimbledon.
In Somerset this word is frequently used. A
mother says to her child, in pointing to oxen, cows,
or calves, " Look at the ' boss ' or ' bos-se ' " (sing.),
the final e being pronounced, and "bosses" (pi),
If to a calf alone, she may say "bos-se calf." A
child, any time after being weaned, which cries
after its mother, is often called " boss," " bos-se,"
or " bos-se calf"; and I have heard children up to
the age of five or six so called, the same as the
term is more frequently applied to a great calf
sucking its mother, when it should have long ago
been weaned. I think " boss," " bos-se," was, in
former times, more particularly applied to the cow;
and Knox, in using "auld bosses," speaking of men
in derision, meant " old women " in the sense that
we apply the latter term to men at the present day.
I have heard a woman called an " old cow." Ben
Jonson's " Boss of Billingsgate " must have been
a landlord; and I can understand it as having been
first applied to a landlady, and afterwards used for
the chief or principal of any establishment, as it is
in America. TAUNTONIENSIS.
KNIGHT BIORN (5th S. i, 167, 215.)— Thanking
MR. ADDIS for his information concerning the
above, I should feel obliged to him if he could
also inform me where Diirer's original etching is,
and where I can find a good copy. F. E.
Biorneborg is a seaport town of Finland, on the
Gulf of Bothnia, at the mouth of the Kumo. As
shipbuilding is largely carried on here, and the
foremost cant-timbers of a ship are the Jcnightheads
(forming, with the stem, a bed for the bowsprit),
may not Knight Biorn refer to a person engaged
in the shipbuilding trade ? G. A. GOLDFINCH.
Walford Road, South Hornsey.
Biorn or Bjorn means a bear, and is still a name
in Norway and Sweden. The nearest equivalent
in English is Bernard=Bjornhard, i. e., bear's
heart.
There is.no authorized interpretation of Albert
Diirer's engraving of The Knight, Death, and Satan.
In Works of Eminent Masters, art. "Albert
Diirer," we read: —
" It is said that Albert Diirer intended to represent
Franz von Sickengen, whose name was dreaded through-
out Germany, thus giving him a terrible warning. An
S traced on the picture goes far to corroborate this sup-
position. An old ballad has suggested another significa-
tion. It there represents to us the model of the Christian
sans peur et sans reproche ' Let Death and the Devil
attack me,' says the Knight, 'I will conquer both the Devil
and Death.' There is ' also the idea that the artist in-
tended to represent his own journey through life.' Sir
Edmund Head calls it ' a sort of condensed expression of
the spirit of the Pilgrim's Progress.' "
DOYLL.
DOUBLE EETURNS TO PARLIAMENT (5th S/Ti.
104, 153, 176, 257.)— W. T. M. is evidently
ignorant of the Acts of Parliament. Under the
old Act, a returning officer, not by virtue of his
office, but by being a ratepayer, entitled to vote, and
not having voted, of course, could give a casting
vote. Under the new, or Ballot Act, a returning
officer cannot vote ; but in case of a double return,
by virtue of his office, he must give the casting
vote and seat the candidate, as the returning
officer did at Athlone. There was a curious case
of alleged double returns at Thirsk, in North
Yorkshire, too long to enter upon in your pages,
but which requires ventilation in political circles.
EBORACUM.
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357
LT.-COL. LIVINGSTONE, 1689 (5th S. i. 108, 175,
277.) — In the Appendix on the Viscountess
Dundee, at the end of Mr. Mark Napier's
Memoirs of Dundee, MR. BLENKINSOPP will find,
I think, satisfactory proof that William Living-
stone could not have been at Killiecrankie, as he
was in prison at the time, and that there is no
foundation for the cruel calumny, by which the
detractors of Bonnie Dundee have tried to blacken
the memory, not only of his adherent Livingstone,
but also of his own beloved and devoted wife.
M. L.
If Lt.-Col. Livingstone, as MR. BLENKINSOPP
states, on the authority of the late Bishop of
Moray, was the man who shot Dundee at Killie-
crankie, all other historians who refer to the sub-
ject must be incorrect. I cannot myself see how
he possibly could have been there, as it is well
known he was a prisoner at that period in Edin-
burgh. It is stated in Mackay's Memoirs, and also
in the Eecords of the Scots Greys, that Gen.
Mackay, having discovered a plot in Sir Thomas
Livingstone's regiment of Dragoons to endeavour to
take over the regiment to Dundee, the following
officers, being found guilty, were sent prisoners to
Edinburgh : Lt.-Col. Livingstone, Captains Living-
stone, Murray and Crighton. This happened some
time before the battle of Killiecrankie.
GEO. CLEGHORN.
Weens, Hawick, N.B.
PASS OP FINSTERMUNZ (5th S. i. 148, 214.) —
From Landeck in the Tyrol a main road mounts
alongside the stream of the Inn to the defile of
Finstenniinz ; and the Pontlatzer Bridge, six miles
from Landeck, has on various occasions been a
fated spot to the Bavarians during their incursions
into the Tyrol. Here in 1703 (see Baedeker's
Switzerland) the Tyrolese so completely annihilated
the Bavarian army, that only a few fugitives
escaped to convey the tidings to Innsbruck ; and
in 1806 a body of Bavarians met with a similar
fate. E. T. L. S.
I think that the important event which S. H. Y.
has seen alluded to as having taken place near
(not at) the above Pass must be the battle of
Malser-Haide, which was fought in 1499 between
15,000 Imperialists and 8,000 men of the Grison
League. The hero of the day was Benedict Fon-
tana, who had his abdomen torn open, but, holding
his entrails with one hand, he continued to fight
with the other, and thus died, encouraging his
countrymen to the last. S. H. Y. will find all the
details of the battle in the very full History of
Switzerland by Mu'ller, or in the best of the smaller
ones', that by Daguet. G. G.
Geneva.
JOCOSA (5°» S. i. 108, 155, 194.)— Twenty-four
years ago I used to lodge at the house of one Joyce
Bell, at Cleator, in Cumberland. A few years ago
she was alive, and is probably living still. I have
known, I think, three instances of the name Felicia
being given in Cheshire. In one case it was always
abbreviated into Phyllis. EGBERT HOLLAND.
Mobberley, Cheshire.
BEZIQUE OR BE'SIQUE (5th S. i. 167, 233.)— The
paper " Concerning Bezique " in Once a Week, to
which Cuthbert Bede refers, gives this derivation,
"Bezique, or more correctly Bazique, from the
Spanish word Baza, a trick at cards. The Italians
have the game Bazzica."
SPARKS HENDERSON WILLIAMS.
18, Kensington Crescent, W.
You need not search very far for the origin of
the name Besique. I subjoin a quotation from
Alberti, Italiano- Francese Dictionary, Marseilles,
1772: "Bazzica, s. f. conversazione - compagnia.
Conversation — 1'action de frequenter quelqu'un.
Per uomo familiare — intime, familier. .: Bazziche
v. Bazzicature. Per una spezie di giuoco di carte.
Credo che sia il Gile dei Francesi o le trente un."
(Not in Boyer.) Perhaps the name itself, from
" Bazzicature massirizuole, coserelle di poco pregio.
Bagatelles Babiolles — chose de peu de consequence,
chose puerile, de rien." S.
P.S. — A Small^. nglo-Italian Dictionary, Milan,
1857, by Millhouse, drops the meaning of Alberti
— company, conversation, or game of cards — and
gives the present meaning as follows, probably the
result of too much conversation : — " Bezzicare, to
pick, bill, dispute, scold; Bezzicato, hen-pecked,
found fault with." Perhaps, however, the root of
the word —alike for the game, the quarrel, and the
conversation — is in Bezzo, a small Venetian coin,
and its derivative, Bezzi, moneys.
" DERBETH " (5«» S. i. 148, 218.)— The military
way that ran from Wallsend, near Newcastle, to
the Solway Frith, in connexion with the Roman
wall, was called " Le Der-street " in the reign of
Henry VIII. (Raine's History of Hexham Priory).
If the latter syllable in " Derbeth " may be re-
garded as a corrupt form of peth, or path, we shall
have an analogy that may help to discover the
meaning of both words. T. DOBSON, B.A.
Hexham.
I have received a commonplace explanation
of the origin of this local name. It appears
that the couple who occupy the farm formed it
out of the final syllables of their Christian names,
Alexander and Elizafte^. 'A.
FINNAMORE (4th S. xi. 114, 202.)— Signer Luigi
Finamore Pepe, Vice-Consul at; Monopoli, writes :
" My family name is really Finamore, but, to distinguish
myself from some others in Central Italy who bear the
same surname, I add that of my mother, who belonged
to the noble family of Pepe, of Naples.
358
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5th S. I. MAY 2, 74.
" Although I have had through my hands all the old
chronicles of this and the neighbouring cities, I have riot
found in them any ' Finamore ' before the eighteenth
century. This family appeared here when it went from
England " (literal translation, when it was eclipsed in
England). " My family is in every way Italian, although
it seems of foreign origin."
R. J. FYNMORE.
Sandgate, Kent.
" SEE ONE PHYSICIAN," &c. (5th S. i. 228, 276.)
— W. T. M. will find this epigram in the collection
of " S. Joseph Jekyll," the author of many others
equally good. E. M., M.D.
" I WANT TO KNOW" (4th S. xii. 327, 522.)-
I have seen it stated somewhere that this is a cor-
ruption from " I wonder now." R.
A MNEMONIC CALENDAR FOR 1874 (5th S. i. 5,
58, 179, 257.) — It is not clear whether MR. SKEAT
(p. 5) intended this for a burlesque on a certain
kind of misapplied ingenuity, or not ; but it really
appears to have been a serious proposition. We
are gravely informed that if any one will commit
to memory the following lines, —
" For once, one finds three several beaux
Fined tvvo-and-six for sixteen ' goes ' " ;
and, having accomplished this rather unpromising
task, shall (whenever he recalls the unintelligible
trash) further more succeed in remembering that —
For does not mean for, but four
Once once, one
One one, March 1
Finds finds, five
Three 'three, May 3
Several several, seven,
Fined fined, five
Two two, August 2
Six , six, Sept 6
For , for, Oct. 4
Sixteen , sixteen, 16
and that this last, after all, is by no means 16, but
November 1 and December 6 (!!), he will have
triumphed over about half the difficulties which
impede the application of this extraordinary
" Mnemonic Calendar." I say about half ; for he
must now go back and construct another mental
table similar to the above, by which he is to
unlearn all that he has so far gone over ; and
" Four " is not four, but Jan. 4 ; " One " is not
one, but Feb. 1, &c., on to the end again.
I fancy that most readers will prefer to depend
upon the almanac ; and that no one, save the
author, will derive any " comfort " from these
"nonsense verses," of which, nevertheless, I wish
him much joy. G. L. H.
Greenville, Ala.
FERINGHEE AND" THE VARANGIANS (4th S. xii.
224, 293, 456 ; 5th S. i. 113.)— The term Varangian
reminds me of one of the best passages in M. G.
Lewis's tragedy of Adelgitha. I give it from the
original edition. Cumberland's edition contains
several errors : —
"Judge by this fact ! The day we forced Durazzo
While war yet raged, and streets were red with blood,
And falling towers crush'd in their reck alike
The victors and the vanquish'd. 'Mid the tumult
A fierce Varangian from its mother's arms
Had torn a new-born babe ; wild shriek'd the matron
To heaven for aid ; nor did she shriek in vain :
Guisgard heard her ; to the tower he flew,
And while his left hand caught the child, his right
Seiz'd by his yellow locks the wild barbarian
And hurl'd him from the walls. Then with his scarf •
Did Guisgard bind the babe's slight wounded throat,
And gently on its mother's breast replaced it.
Wildly she caught it— sank upon her knee,
Traced in its blood a cross upon its brow,
And called it "Guisgard." Then his great heart melted,
His stout frame trembled, and I marked tears forcing
Thro' his clos'd helm a pussage : Oh ! methought
Never did hero's strength appear so glorious
As then appear'd his weakness— ne'er before
Was man worth envying till I saw those tears."
STEPHEN JACKSON".
MORTIMERS, LORDS OF WIGMORE (5th S. i. 188,
234.)— I copy the following out of Hulbert's His-
tory of Shropshire, in which a slight sketch of the
family is given : —
" Mr. Cox, my valued historian, says Ralph de Mor-
timer, at the time of the general survey, had fifty Manors
in this County, among others that of Cleobury Mortimer.
Having completed the Abbey of Wigmore in Hereford,"
&c. ,
Abbey | Founder, I Order,
Wigmore. I Hugo de Mortuamary, 1172. | Black Canons.
This may give a clue to the derivation of the
name. Lord Mortimer, Earl of March, left Wig-
more to his sister Anne, who married Richard
Plantagenet, Duke of York, from whom it passed
to the Crown. Hopton Castle at one time belonged
to this family as well as that of Cleobury Mortimer.
IGNOTUS.
THE BURIAL OF GIPSIES (5th S. i. 129, 212.)—
The name of Boswell has long been familiar to me
as almost synonymous with " gipsy " in north-
west Lincolnshire. Here, too, their habit has been
to give names of trees or plants (e. g., " Geranium")
to the daughters of the race. I may be able to
ascertain more about them, but make a note of
this for the present. J. T. F.
Hatfield Hall, Durham.
INDIAN DEED OF Nov. 15, 1642, TO THE
INHABITANTS OF PENTUCKET, NOW HAVERHILL,
MASS. (5th S. i. 166, 219.)— This deed is well
known. It was printed in 1832 in Mirick's His-
tory of Haverhill, and again in 1861 in Chase's
history of that town. The latter work contains a
fac-simile of the document, which is now, I. pre-
sume, in the custody of the city clerk of Haverhill.
MR. MURPHY probably made his abstract in haste,
as there are some mistakes in it. A part of
Salem, N.H., was included in old Haverhill, but
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
359
no part of Salem, Mass., nor of Ipswich, ever
belonged to that town, or was within the limits of
the above-named deed. JOHN WARD DEAN.
Boston, Massachusetts, U.S.A.
KING OF v. AT ARMS (5th S. i. 50, 135, 237.)—
Dr. Webster also uses the term King at Arms in
his English Dictionary, as also (as has been already
pointed out) does Sir Walter Scott. Surely it is
admissible. A. 0. M. JAY.
1, Portland Street, Leamington.
Sir W. Scott may have once used " at Arms "
in Marmion — probably by an oversight ; but I do
not think that elsewhere, in any of his works,
the same error is to be found. To me " of Arms "
and " at Arms " seem to be essentially distinct.
The man at arms had to do with weapons ; whereas
he who was of arms presided over the symbolism
and honours of chivalry. The commonalty, being
more familiar with the Man at Arms than with
the King of Arms, may have loosely misused
the conjunction, hence the error ; but "of" is the
official word, and when substituted by " at " must,
I believe, have been by mistake or inadvertence.
Analogous cases are not wanting even now. It
seems to me of little account what Sir Walter
Scott may have once called Sir David Lindsay,
when, as is well known, Sir David styles himself
"Lyon King of Arms." S.
ISABEL, WIFE OF CHARLES V. (5th S. i. 107,
175, 273.) — I return my best thanks for the ample
and satisfactory data kindly given for her death,
1st May, 1539.
The eclipse which preceded the event was no
doubt the solar eclipse visible in Europe, 8th April,
1539, given in Ricciolus's Catalogue of Eclipses ;
but no mention is made in Ferguson's orPlayfair's
Astronomy of the comet, said to have made its
appearance on the same day.
Was any comet visible on 1st May, 1539 ; and if
so, where are further notices of its occurrence to be
met with ] E.
" PRESTER JOHN " AND THE ARMS OF THE SEE
OK CHICHESTER (4th S. xii. passim; 5th S. i. 15,
177, 217.) — I do not know whether MR. WALCOTT
means it as a sneer, or that we are to take it as a
bit of special pleading, when he asks, " Can the
suggestion have been made in sober earnest, that
a bishop in the eleventh century re-named as St.
Prester John's, St. Peter's Church, in honour of the
subject of a mere hearsay, or of a Nestorian heretic V
If the question refers to me, my simple reply to it
is, that J never made it ; but what is more, that my
words, if fairly construed, can bear no construction
but the very opposite. They are (p. 177): "There
would be force in this, if the blazon on the arms
•were always emblematical of the dedication or had
special reference to it, but this is certainly not the
fact." And I repeat this " certainly not." For if
the converse were the truth — were MR. WALCOTT'S
implied doctrine, a doctrine o^oAoyo^evojs, cpr-
rect — see what we should be driven to ! Canterbury
Cathedral we must call the church of St. Pall, the
arms being the archiepiscopal pall ; Bristol, the
church of St. Three Crowns ; Hereford, the church
of St. Leopards; Rochester, the church of St.
Escalop-shell, and so on, usque ad nauseam. Will
MR. WALCOTT bear the burden of this 1 As to the
individual whom MR. WALCOTT styles " The first
historic John the high priest," readers of history
know all about him, and will be able to say
whether he be, or be not, the first of that name of
whom any authentic account is given.
That Prester John " arose from a corruption of
St. Peter's," may do very well for those who can
accept it ; for my own part, I say, " Credat Judaeus
Apella, nou ego." EDMUND TEW, M.A.
NOTES ON BOOKS, &c.
The Quarterly Review. No. 272, April, 1874. (Murray.)
PROBABLY, during its long and honourable career, the
Quarterly has never published an article of such weighty
and universal importance as the first in this April num-
ber, entitled " The War between Prussia and Rome."
It tells the tale of the war without entering on the ques-
tion of the defensibility of the policy adopted by Prussian
statesmen, on the one hand, or that'of the Jesuits on the
other, who claim for the Pope the regulation, not only of
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Right. As candidate for Yorkshire, 1628, we are told
"many of the freeholders who voted for him refused to
disclose their names, for fear of consequences, . . . the
House, nevertheless, decided that his election was good.
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serious, reckless, and cautious Heywood, are, neverthe-
less, worth reprinting as a curiosity. They contain some
concentrated wit, but more of concentrated common-
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The knocking the knuckles which finger doth strain,
Than digging in the heart, or drying of the brain."
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CONTENTS. — N° 19.
NOTES :— Surrey Provincialisms, 361— Lucretian Notelets, 362
—Sir Eobert Wilson's "Note- Book," 363— A Poem by Win-
throp Maekworth Praed — Names of the Combatants at Perth
in 1396, 364 — Importance of a Capital Letter — Errors of the
Press— On the Possible Source of One of Mr. Robert Mont-
gomery's Couplets, 365— A New Object of Taxation sug-
gested in 1804 — God's Church and the Devil's Chapel —
' ' Valet " as a Verb— Inscription — Disguised Names — " Water-
shed," 366.
QUERIES:— Goethe— Balmford (Williaml — " Unaccustomed
as I am to Public Speaking" — Field Telegraphy — Peyton, of
Doddington — "Anthithese de 1'Oraison Dominicale" — Pre-
faces to Books — " Certaine Grievances ; or, the Errours of
the Service-Booke," &c., 367— Major Cairnes, circa 1770—
Thoman — Noble's " House of Crbmwell" — Leyden University
— Barony of Valoines — (An-, oferjgart — Wough — "Fevered
flesh of buffaloes " — Numismatic— Richard and Samuel
Blechynden — Professor Binz — "Love's Labour's Lost" —
The " Archidoxes "— Luddokys, 363— The O'Neills of Clane-
hay, 369.
REPLIES :— On the Elective and Deposing Power of Parlia-
ment, 369— Col- in Col-Fox, 371 — Brougham Anecdotes —
" Tempora mutantur," <tc. — De Defectibus Missse, 372 —
Lucia Visconti, Countess of Kent — Letch : Ing — Decourland
— "St. Stephens ; or, Pencillings," &c., 373— Buda— Arms of
Milgate— Hindoo Game — " Notes on the Four Gospels " —
Words and Phrases Prevalent in Ulster— The Evil Eye—
" Mary Queen of Scots and her Accusers " — Tolling Bells,
374— Marshal Ney— Carpathian Mountains— Chapman Gill-
Captain Kidd — "Biographia Dramatica" — Stone Altars —
Devonshire Superstition, 375 — " Vacation " : a Poem — Soda
Water— Field Lore: Carr, &c., 376— Sir David Lyndsay—
" Bloody," 377—" Pollice Verso "—The Waterloo and Penin-
sular Medals — " David's Teares" — "Les Provinciales " —
"Cloth of State," 378— Colle— Bishop Wren, ot Ely— Lighted
Candles at Christmas — Charles I. as a Poet, 379.
Notes on Books, &c.
SURREY PROVINCIALISMS.
With reference to the subject of local dialect, to
which attention was directed in " N. & Q." (4th S.
xii., 279 and 341), I venture to give the following
list of words still in use in this part of Surrey,
very few of which will be found in HalliwelTs
Dictionary, but .all of which I have myself heard
used in conversation by the country people. They
are now almost confined to the old people, and,
from the nearness to London and increased facili-
ties of travel, will ere long become obsolete. For
this reason they seem worthy of being placed on
record : —
Adle, weak, shaky; said of a fence the pales of which
have become loose.
Arbitrary, pronounced " arbitry "; used of persons who
are very independent, impatient of restraint, wilful.
Brave ; a large well-fatted animal is a " brave " beast.
Broken; in the sense of becoming disused, obsolete ;
€. g., a word, if uncommon, is said to be a " broken "
word.
Brussy; said of a tree which is rough and has short
boughs.
Burster, pronounced " buster " ; a drain under a road
to carry off water. In a Court Roll of the Manor of
Titsey, in Latin, 30th April, 1641, I find " Cursus aquae
Anglice vocat ' a burstow,' " &c.
Caterways, catering, to cross diagonally. So in Halli-
well.
Cluddy, wet, sticky, of ground. Land is said to work
so " cluddy.''
Crazy, tumble-down, dilapidated, especially of windows
that let in the wind. So Halliwell.
Dishabill, untidy, in confusion; used of a cottage or its
inmates, and synonymous with being all in a " inuck " or
muddle." Halliwell gives it as "dishbille," from
deshabille ; used in Kent.
Doaty, worm-eaten, beginning to decay, of a beam,
post, or tree. So Halliwell.
Favour, to resemble in countenance. So Halliwell.
Fluey, of a weak, delicate, constitution. Halliwell
jives " fluish," a north-country word, in the same sense.
Flummoxed, scared, bewildered. So Halliwell.
Oratten, a stubble ; used universally of barley, oats
{" wuts ''), and peas, less commonly of wheat. Partridges
at feed on the stubbles are said to be " grattening."
Halliwell gives it as a south-country word.
Have one's eye on; i. e., to approve of.
Hele, or Hole in ; to cover in a building, the regular
term. (See " N. & Q.," 4th S. xii. 17.) So Halliwell.
Hover, pronounced huver ; said of the wind when it
blows before rain ; also used in the sense of light or open.
Hucket, to gasp for breath, make a choking noise.
Interrupt, to cause discomfort or disagree, e. g., " If I
at any heavy food, it interrupts me so," or to interfere
with ; pursue, as of a dog, or any other animal.
Kiblle, a short hammer used for chipping and dress-
ing stone. Marshal], in his Glossary of the Midland
Counties, gives the verb " to kibble," to crush or grind
imperfectly.
Learn, to teach.
Leasing, pronounced " leezing," universal for gleaning.
Leastways, at least.
Leve; " I 'd as leve not," I would rather not. In a
letter from Thomas Poyntz to his brother John, 25th
August, 1535 (Cotton MSS. Galba B x), occurs : — " A poor
man had ' lever ' live a beggar all days of his life rather
than," &c.
Lippy, insolent, e. g. , a very lippy man. Conf. " They
shoot out their lips." — Ps. xxii. 7.
Loo, pronounced also "lew" ; in the shelter, out of the
wind.—" N. & Q.," 4th S. xii. 203.
Looses, deep large ruts ; the s pronounced hard.
Mixen, a heap of dung or compost.
Muzzle, get twisted or entangled ; said of mowing grass
when it is wet and impedes the machine, " it muzzles so."
Ordinary, pronounced "ornary " ; said of persons who
are unwell, and of crops when they are indifferent.
Otheriohile, every now and then, at long intervals.
Pichome, dainty, of a delicate appetite.
Pig-pound; always used for pig-sty.
Platty, uneven ; corn that is patchy is said to be platty.
So Halliwell.
Pretty, nicely; a child begins to talk or walk "pretty."
Puddle about, to walk about slowly, as a man after an
illness.
Sag, pronounced " seg " ; of a wall that bulges, or a
beam that bends.
Scrummage, a scratch. Given by Halliwell " Scram-
mish."
Scraize ; almost synonymous with preceding, but less
violent.
Scrines, finely sifted gravel, properly screenings.
Sensible to make, to make a person understand.
Shuckish, showery, unsettled; of weather. So Halli-
well.
Sob, to soak out, as water out of a bank.
Sproddy; of a tree that is stag-headed, and covers &
good deai of ground.
Sprouk, a projecting stump or limb of a tree. Halli-
well gives " sproug " in this sense.
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Swage; used of water which leaks out or bubbles up.
Swimy-headed, giddy. So Halliwell.
Terrify, to annoy or importunate. A bad cough is
said to be very terrifying. A person who asks for a thing
over and over again is said to keep on terrifying.
Troubled, haunted, inhabited by ghosts.
Unbekant, illegitimate, of unknown parentage.
Upstanding, tall or high, well developed, of man or
animal. A horse seventeen hands high would be described
as a "grit upstanding os."
The phrase "as the saying is" is commonly
added at the end of a sentence without any mean-
ing. Posts, frosts, and such like plurals, are always
dissyllables, post-es, frost-es. Mrs. is pronounced
Miss ; gate, geeat ; and dame is still the title of an
old woman. Such are a few Surrey words jotted
down from time to time; most of them, possibly all,
may be current in Kent and Sussex; at any rate,
they are forcible and expressive; and if they are
doomed to extinction, they will be missed from our
local vocabulary.
GUANVILLE LEVESON GOWER.
Titsey Place, Godstone.
LUCRETIAN NOTELETS.
(Concluded from page 342.^
"Quippe etenim ventus suptili corpore tenvis
Trudit agens magnam magno molimine navem
Et manus una regit quantovis impete euntem
Atque gubernaclum contorquet quolibet unum."
Lucr. iv. 901.
Cf. St. James, Epist. iii. 4: "Behold also the
ships, which though they be so great, and are
driven of fierce winds, yet are they turned about
with a very small helm whithersoever the governor
listeth."
" Exposuitque bonum summum quo tendimus omnes
Quid foret, atque viam monstravit, tramite parvo
Qua possemus ad id recto contendere cursu.
Lucr. vi. 26.
Cf. Matthew vii. 14 : " Strait is the gate and nar-
row is the way which leadeth unto life."
" Intellegit ibi vitium vas efficere ipsum
Omniaque illius vitio corrumpier intus
Qua) conlata foris et commoda cumque venirent."
Liter, vi. 17.'
On this passage Munro remarks : —
" Conlata foris and commoda are opposed to illius vitii
corrumpier intus : they come from without and they are.
too in themselves good and salutary; therefore it is the
vas ipsiim alone that is in fault, and not the things which
come into it : thus the heart of man is to blame, not what
nature gives to it."
With this compare Matthew xv. 11: "Not that
which goeth into the mouth defileth a man, bill
that which conieth out of the mouth, this defiletl
a man."
" Principio maria ac terras caelumque tuere ;
Quorum naturam triplicem,
• • •_ tria talia texta,
Una dies dabit exitio, multosque per annoa
Sustentata ruet moles et machina mundi."
Lucr. v. 92.
The description of what he here predicts the poet
amplifies (but puts it hypothetically) in a fine
mssage at the close of his first book : —
' Ne volucri ritu flammarum moenia mundi
Diffugiant subito magnum per inane soluta
Et ne cetera consimili ratione sequantur
Neve ruant caeli penetralia templa superne
Terraque se pedibus raptim subducat et omnis
Inter permixtas rerum caelique ruinas
Corpora solventes abeat per inane profundum,
Temporis ut puncto nil extet reliquiarum
Desertum praeter spatium et primordia caeca."
At v. 366, he again gives intimation of this fate,
which he thinks likely to overtake the existing
summa rerum; and at ii. 1148 he writes : —
" Sic igitur magni quoque circum moenia mundi
Expugnata dabunt labem putrisque ruinas."
It may be confidently asserted that for the sublime
in idea and expression these verses of Lucretius
cannot be surpassed. But quite as confidently
will it be maintained that the like high standard
is reached in the following lines, which are forcibly
recalled by the passages just cited : —
" These .... as I foretold you,
Are melted into air, into thin air;
And like the baseless fabric of this vision,
The cloud- capp'd towers, the gorgeous palace?,
The solemn temples, the great globe itself;
Yea, all which it inherit shall dissolve,
And, like this unsubstantial pageant faded,
Leave not a rack behind." — Tempest, Act iv.
"... anguimanus elephantos, India quorum
Milibus e multis vallo munitur eburno,
Ut penitus nequeat penetrari."— ii. 537.
On these lines Prof. Munro remarks, " I know no
other mention of this fable." Is it necessary to
suppose, I ask with all deference, that any fable
whatever is alluded to 1 Are not the words " vallo
munitur eburno " plainly metaphorical, and as
naturally used to express the great power for
defence which India possessed in her elephants,
as the very similar phrase " the wooden walls of
Old England," in former days so constantly in our
mouths, well and pointedly set forth the confidence
which we reposed in our ships 1
" Nee te fallit item quid corporis auferat et quid
Detrahat ex hominum nervis ac viribus ipsis
Perpetuus sermo nigrai noctis ad umbram
Aurorae perductus ab exoriente nitore,
Praesertim si cum summost clamore profusus."
iv. p35.
These lines convey a warning to which public
speakers generally, and more particularly those
who form part of our collective wisdom at this time
assembled, would do well to give heed. Perpetuus
sermo of course will produce much the same effect,
whether it be spun out from the rising splendour
of morn to the overshadowing of murky night, or
from the shades of evening till the day-dawning.
The hint conveyed in the last line, " si cum sum-
most clamore profusus," is of a thoroughly practical
nature, and if attended to will save much needless
expenditure of vital force. Then the poet philo-
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sopher goes on to show how this summits clamor
may be avoided: —
•• Asperitas autem vocis fit ab asperitate
Prmcipiorum."
A salutary caution against the evils of bawling
Radicalism on the one hand, and shrieking Tory-
ism on the other, as well as a ready test to discern
these right-hand extremes and left-hand defections !
Hoarseness is the inevitable result of undue bawling
or shrieking. So, patriots and statesmen, preserve
the golden mean both in voice and principles !
" Est modus in rebus ; in medio tutissimi ! "
The shade of Lucretius will doubtless condone
the small liberty taken with principionim, in con-
sideration of the useful lesson of which his lines
are made the vehicle.
" Illud in his rebus vitium vementer avessis
Effugere," &c.— iv. 823-857.
In this passage Lucretius addresses himself with
confident boldness, worthy of a better cause, to a
direct denial of the validity of the powerful argu-
ment from design in favour of an intelligent
designer. This argument is perhaps most widely
known amongst ourselves from Paley, who has
fixed it in the popular understanding by the illus-
tration he employs of the watch, or other piece of
mechanism. This illustration, by the way (as Hal-
lam points out), is as old as Cicero, than whom no one
has stated it more clearly, or with greater force : —
"Quod si in Scythiam," he says, "aut in Britanniam
spbaeram aliquis tulerit, luuic quam nuper familiaris
noster effecit Posidonius, cuius singulae conversiones
idem efficiunt in sole et in luna et in quinque stellis
errantibus, quod efficitur in caelo singulis diebus et
noctibus; quis in ilia barbaric dubitet quin ea sphaern
sit perfecta ratione 1 Hi autem dubitant de mundo, ex
quo oriuntur et fiunt omriia, casune ipse sit effectus, aut
necessitate aliqua, an ratione, an mente divina; et Archi-
mtdem arbitrantur plus valuisse in mutandis spbaerae
conversionibus quam naturum in efficiendis." — De Nat.
Deorum, ii. 35.
For naturam in last clause read Deum, and no
more sufficient answer will be required to all that
Lucretius has to say on this head. I am sure that
I do not misstate his argument by the following
abstract of it : Before the eye, ear, tongue were
formed, there could have been no seeing, hearing,
speech; these and other organs came first, then
their uses ; THEREFORE the eye, ear, tongue, were
not formed in order that seeing, hearing, and speech
might come by their means. Was there ever a
more ludicrous instance of non sequitur? Did
therefore ever more deserve to be written argal ?
In this, as in other places, the poet sets himself at
variance with the common-sense of mankind, and
in his own person supplies an illustration of what
elsewhere he so well says of one whose theories he
shows to be opposed to the evidence of the bodily
senses : —
" Nam contra sensus ab sensibus ipse repugnat
Et labefactat eos unde omnia credita pendent."
i. 693.
" Et tamen implicitus quoque possis inque peditus
Effugere infesturo, nisi tute tibi obvius obstes."
Lucr. iv. 1149.
The unpleasantness from which the reader is
here promised a possible escape, reference to the
text will show to be his lady love. And infestum
would appear to be used not in the abstract for
mere mischief, danger, annoyance, but to have
ungallant and contemptuous application to the fair
one herself. In this way Virgil uses the neuter —
* Varium et mutabile semper
Femina."
Numerous parallels and illustrations from Virgil,
Horace, Ovid, Cicero, and from Milton, Gray,
Shelley, Newton, and Locke, will be found in the
very interesting notes of Prof. Munro.
K. B. S.
Glasgow.
SIR ROBERT WILSON'S "NOTE-BOOK."
" The King of Portugal, in the year 1823, said be bated
blood, but he could himself put two bullets into tbebeart
of General Silveira for having caused the Civil War.
Fourteen days afterwards Silveira was created a Marquess,
and was proclaimed ' the Restorer of the Throne and the
Preserver of bis Country.' "
" The Lisbon Gazette, 1823, gave an account of the
King of Portugal's entrance into Lisbon after destroying
the Constitution at Villa Franca. At the bottom of the
page or leaf it was stated that ' His Majesty was drawn
by General and Field Officers.' At the top of the next
page was a notice 'for the Sale of the Beasts who had
been employed in bringing back His Majesty into his
Capital.' "
" General Alava told me that the King of Spain, when
the proposed Proclamation of the 30th of September at
Cadiz was read to him, with his own pen struck out the
words ' pouvoir absolu,' observing that ' the proclama-
tion with a phrase rejecting it would not be credited as
his own act ; but that (he acknowledgment of the dtlt
nnd a general complete amnesty were objects nearest and
dearest to his heart ! !' "
" The King, on the same occasion, asked what was
meant by the term ' Liberte individuelle.' On being told
that it meant that ' no person could be arrested without
previous compliance with all the forms of law,' he ob-
served, ' Thus explained, I have no objection to promise
it.'"
" The Minister, Gandiola, told me that he had seen the
order, signed ' Ferdinand,' and in the King's own hand-
writing, authorizing the Judges to put him — Gandiola —
to the torture, the Sulta de Truche, in which torture be
remained 48 hours 9 min", but a great part of the time
insensible."
" The King asked the Municipality of Cadiz, who had
made many sacrifices to procure him luxuries during the
siege, of which sacrifices he did not stand in need, as
Ouvrand, through the instrumentality of the British
Consul, put a large sum at his disposal, which sum ho
employed in corrupting the garrison, &c., whether he
could do anything, on his resumption of absolute power,
agreeable to them. They begged His Majesty not to
allow the troops who had been concerned in the massacre
of the 10th of May to enter the City. The King pledged
his word that he would not; and yet no sooner did he
reach the opposite shore than he directed the Regiment
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of La L , the very first and most implicated in that
horrible outrage, to enter Cadiz, and form part of its
garrison. General Bourmont, the French Commander,
ordered it to be re-embarked and sent across the Bay. A
bright deed in the page of the blackest biography !
" When Cadiz submitted there were only 25 Dollars in the
Treasury, 400 in the Artillery Chest after the sale of seve-
ral hundred brass Ordnance, and none in the Army Chest.
" My son Bosville offered to command and take into
the French fleet moored at the entrance of the Bay a
Fire Ship, but there was not money to purchase the com-
bustibles. I was myself obliged to buy, out of my own
pocket, the wood to heat the furnaces for red-hot shot.
When the City was being bombarded, in a Battalion
of 600 men, I had only 110 muskets that could be loaded,
40 men with great coats, and 80 with shoes ; not a Sand-
bag; no Chevaux de Frise or Palisade for the whole
Cortidura Lines, or the Corps de Place."
" After the dissolution of the Cortes by Ferdinand in
the year 1824, when the Judges reported that there was
no ground for prosecuting an arrested Liberal— arrested
by the King's Warrant — the King always replied, 'Then
keep him a prisoner till you can find cause to hang him.' ''
" Some time after the Spanish revolution had broken
out, I asked a great Tory Lord whom I met, 'What
news ] ' ' Very bad — On commence faire des revolutions
sans verser du sang,' was his reply."
"After a dinner at Prince Paul of Wirtemberg's, an
Ultra asked, on my retiring, ' Est-ce qu'il n'y a pas moyens
de faire pendre ce General la 1 '"
" Talleyrand told Madame Hamlin that he had urged
strenuously the adoption of the Regency when the Coun-
cil of Ministers was being held prior to the Capitulation of
Paris, and had implored Marie Louise to remain in Paris
with her son, but that she refused, saying, ' I have always
been hated by my Father, and detested by my Step-mother,
for a marriage which gave me precedence. I will, there-
fore, obey the instructions of my Husband, and not ex-
pose myself and my child to be made prisoners. ' "
" Lafitte, speaking to me of Lafayette, said, ' I regard
him as a man of the antient world — a walking monument
in search of a pedestal, which must be either a Presi-
dent'sfauteuil or a scaffold.'"
" Madame Lieven told Lord Grey that the King, speak-
ing with her on the subject of Lord Londonderry's death,
stated that the following conversation had passed between
him — the King — and Lord L. some days previously, and
after Lord L. had quietly communicated to the King
the instructions given for his conduct at the Congress : —
" Lord L. — ' Sir, do you know the news ? '
"K.— 'No.'
" Lord L. — ' I shall be arrested as soon as I leave the
Palace. All the world is conspiring against me. Lord
Liverpool, and even you, Sir, are Conspirators ! ' at the
same time raising his fist and shaking it at the King.
" K. — ' Do you know, Sir ! whom you are addressing ?
in whose presence you are standing1? '
" Lord. L., confused, burst into tears, begged pardon,
and entreated that no mention might be made to Lord
Liverpool of what had passed; but ejaculated frequently
that ' the warrant was out against him,' nnd that ' he
could never show his face again to Lady Castlereagh,' —
meaning Lady Londonderry.
" It is remarkable that Lady Londonderry never ex-
pressed the least regret for his fate, and with difficulty
could be persuaded by Lord Ellenborough not to attend
Almack's the following Spring as one of the Lady
HERBERT RANDOLPH.
Sidmouth.
A POEM BY WINTHKOP MACKWOETH PRAED.
The first collected edition published in England
of The Poems of Winthrop Mackworth Praed
appeared in two volumes, 8vo., in the year 1864,
under the editorship of the Eev. Derwent Coleridge.
Before then, however, a collection, in many ways
imperfect, had been more than once issued in the
United States of America. Copies of these Ame-
rican editions are rare in this country. Last week
I had an opportunity of examining the one of 1853,
and, while I found many favourites missing, I came
upon an exceedingly curious and clever poem, which
the English editor has omitted, I presume, on the
ground that it is not really by the writer to whom
it has been attributed. If not by Praed, the writer
has certainly caught his tricks of style in a mar-
vellous manner. Whoever was the author, it is
well worth reprinting in " N. & Q." now that lapse
of time has made its sprightly personalities harm-
less.
" Verses on seeing the Speaker asleep in his chair in
one of the Debates of the first Reformed Parliament.
" Sleep, Mr. Speaker, 'tis surely fair
If you mayn't in your bed, that you should in your chair.
Louder and longer now they grow,
Tory and Radical, Aye and No ;
Talking by night and talking by day —
Sleep, Mr. Speaker, sleep while you may !
Sleep, Mr. Speaker; slumber lies
Light and brief on a Speaker's eyes.
Fielden and Finn, in a minute or two,
Some disorderly thing will do ;
Riot will chase repose away —
Sleep, Mr. Speaker, sleep while you may !
Sleep, Mr. Speaker, sweet to men
Is the sleep that cometh but now and then ;
Sweet to the weary, sweet to the ill,
Sweet to the children that work in the mill.
You have more need of repose than they —
Sleep, Mr. Speaker, sleep while you may !
Sleep, Mr. Speaker, Harvey will soon
Move to abolish the sun and the moon ;
Hume will no doubt be taking the sense
Of the house on a question of sixteen pence.
Statesmen will howl, and patriots bray —
Sleep, Mr. Speaker, sleep while you may !
Sleep, Mr. Speaker, and dream of the time
When loyalty was not quite a crime ;
When Grant was a pupil in Canning's school,
And Palmerston fancied Wood a fool.
Lord, how principles pass away —
Sleep, Mr. Speaker, sleep while you may ! "—P. 247.
ANON.
NAMES OF THE .COMBATANTS AT PERTH IN 1396.
— It appears to be now pretty generally acknow-
ledged, that the fight on the Inches at Perth in
1396 took its origin from the endeavour of Govern-
ment to punish those who had taken part in the
slaughter of Ogilvie, the Sheriff of Angus, and
especially among them, two allied septs, which were
always fighting with each other. The five earliest
writers are agreed that the fight was between two
5th S. I. MAY 9, 74.)
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365
parentchc, one of them Clan Quhewil, and the other
a clan whose leader was named Scha, a name iden-
tical with Sheach.
It has always been a matter of surprise that,
whereas in the official list of those taking part in
the slaughter the name of Clan Quhewil appears,
there seems to be no mention of the opposing race.
The words of the Act of 1392 are, " Slurach, turn
fratres ejus, turn omnes Clan Quhewil." This has
generally been rendered, " Slurach and his brothers
and all Clan Quhewil," as if they v/ere all the same
body of men. But there is obviously another way
of interpreting the words. Slurach and his brothers
may be taken for one set of people, and all Clan
Quhewil for another.
It is, I believe, certain that there is no such
Celtic name as Slurach, and it is presumed that it
is a scribe's mistake for Sheach. Granting this, we
should have the name of Sheach (that of the leader
of the opposite tribe) and his brothers included in
the list, like Clan Quhewil, and the two names
occurring next to each other, just as we should
expect in the case of two parentclce, or closely allied
races. The official list is thus found to confirm the
names assigned by early historians to the com-
batants.
If there were once complete agreement on the
part of critics respecting the names, at that day, of
the contending parties, there might be then some
chance of determining what tribes in later times
were their representatives. Towards the first object
I venture to contribute a few words.
It seems to be now universally admitted that
one of the parties at the Inches was Clan Quhewil.
The idea that they were the ClanChattan,orGlenqu-
hattanis, as he calls them, arose, 130 years after the
fight, from Bellenden adopting a misprint in the
original edition of Boece, which spoke of Clan
Quhete, instead of Quhele. The other race has by
early writers been called Yha, Hay, Kay. Yha only
occurs in Wyntcm's poetry, where the y is used to
make the word the dissyllabic, euphoni(e causa ; Hay
and Kay are evidently mistakes of transcribers.
Coming back to the original Ha, I imagine that
there can be little doubt that Ha is the same as
Sha, just as Hapfell is sometimes used for Shapfell.
If it were once admitted that the two races were
Clan Sha or Ha, and Clan Quhewil, there would be
some foundation to rest on, in making a further
examination of the question.
As it is, it seems to me highly probable, that the
adoption in a non-critical age of Bellenden's mis-
translation has led to the manufacture of much
Highland tradition to account for the presence of
Clan Chattan at the Inches.
JOHN MACPHERSON, M.D.
IMPORTANCE OF A CAPITAL LETTER. — In
Young's Poetical WorJcs, Aldine Edition, 1834,
vol. i. 56, we read —
"And am I ford of life
Who scarce can think it possible I live ?
Alive by miracle, or, what is next,
Alive by mead ! "
Of course, the poet does not mean to say that he
has been kept alive by drinking mead, i.e., honey
and water, but by the professional services of the
celebrated physician, Dr. Richard Mead, who died
in 1754. To this I may add a ludicrous misprint,
showing the importance of what the printers call
a " lower-case " letter. In 1867, the Right Hon.
Robert Lowe, addressing the members of the
Edinburgh Philosophical Institution on Education ,.
quoted a passage from the Dunciad, beginning —
" Since man from beast by words is known."
In one of the Edinburgh newspapers this line was
printed : —
" Since man from beastly words is known."
* *
ERRORS OF THE PRESS. — How infinitely divert-
ing a book might be written on " Printer's-
blunders." The other day I read with horror, in
an article printed from an MS. of which I had not
seen the proof, that Dr. Livingstone had worn a
cap with a " famished " gold-lace band. I had
written "tarnished." Could the good Doctor's
occasional privations from lack of provand have
suggested the epithet " famished " to the typo I
Altogether, I have long since arrived at the con-
clusion that there are more " devils " in a printing-
office than are dreamt of in our philosophy — the
Blunder-fiends, to wit, ever busy in peppering the
" forms " with errors which defy the minutest
revision of reader, author, sub-editor, and editor.
G. A. SALA.
Brompton.
ON THE POSSIBLE SOURCE OF ONE OF MR..
ROBERT MONTGOMERY'S COUPLETS. — Probally :ill
your readers are acquainted with the severe treat-
ment which Mr. Robert Montgomery's Poems re-
ceived at the hands of Lord Macaulay, and, inter
alia, the criticism on the following couplet : —
" The soul, aspiring, pants its source to mount,
As streams meander level with their fount."
The essayist seems to see here " every mark of
originality," but, on turning lately over Young's
Night Thoughts, I came upon a passage which, not
unlikely, gave Montgomery his idea : —
" There flow redundant, like Meander flow
Back to thy fount."
Young's Night Thoughts seems, for the most part,
dreary sentimentality. It is true there are occa-
sionally some fair Hoes, but these are, " like angels'
visits, few and far between." Such are the much
quoted —
"Procrastination is the thief of time ; ''
and
" When such friends part,
'Tis the survivor dies."
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Noticeable also are the lines (alluded to by Sir
Walter Scott in one of his novels): —
" The bell strikes One. We take no note of time
But from its loss : to give it then a tongue
Is wise in man. As if an angel spoke,
I feel the solemn sound. If heard aright,
It is the knell of my departed hours.''
There is also merit in the following: —
" All men think all men mortal but themselves."
" A man of pleasure is a man of pains."
" To feel is to be fir'd ;
And to believe, Lorenzo, is to feel."
But these few passages seem to exhaust the
elegant extracts worthy to be culled from this once
favourite poet. It is curious, if Montgomery did
not have Young in mind, that both poets should
have thus meandered in their poetic flights.
ERATO HILLS.
A NEW OBJECT OF TAXATION SUGGESTED IN
1804. — The writer says that his views might have
appeared more properly in the Farmers' Magazine,.
If it were only for the purpose of showing to us
of the present day the ideas of some warm friend
of agriculture at the beginning of the century,
perhaps you may find room to " make a note of"
them. He says : —
" I beg leave to suggest a tax which will be productive,
even if it bring nothing in to Government ; or perhaps I
might even say, the less it brings in the more easily pro-
ductive it will be. I propose that a very heavy tax be
laid on every plough which is drawn by more horses than
two, and on every man or boy merely to drive a plough.
Now I have mentioned the tax, it will easily appear how
beneficial and actually productive it will be, if it put a
stop to that waste of corn which the employment of
more horses than two must occasion." And " With
respect to the driver of the plough, it will enrich the
revenue, or turn to useful labour those who now are idle,
if not injurious, members of society."
SETH WAIT.
GOD'S CHURCH AND THE DEVIL'S CHAPEL. —
The idea about them, which De Foe has more than
once expressed in prose and verse, is found, as has
been f-hown, in Robert Burton. It occurs, how-
ever, in a book which was printed when Burton
was only five years old : —
"But more is the pitie, where god hath his church,
there y° devil hath his Chappell."— The Jesuites Banner
(1581), by Meredith Hanmer, sig. B. 1 v.
F. H.
Marlesford.
" VALET " AS A VERB.— During the progress of
the trial of Orton, alias Tichborne, the above word
was pressed in to take position in our dictionaries
as a verb.
In the examination of Dr. Lipscombe (Report of
Tichborne Trial, Manchester, 1871, p. 121) we
find :— "I asked him if he had valetted Roger
Tichborne and had seen him stripped." The same
word, I believe, occurs in one or two other places
in the examinations during the trial.
Although apparently a useful word, as defining
the duties of a body servant, it is not recognized
by Webster, or, in the French language, by Spiers,
although the verb valeter is, signifying to fawn,
cringe, dance attendance, &c. ; also valetage (foot-
man's attendance, for which we have no equivalent
in English, unless the word flunkeyage). We can
hardly coin a verb from our familiar words, foot-
man, butler, cook, &c. He "footmanned, butlerred,
cooked," &c., appear awkward, while he " valetted"
appears made " ad unguem." Is to valet, therefore,
for the future, a recognized verb 1 H. H.
Lavender Hill.
INSCRIPTION. — The following inscription, copied
by me last August from a marble tablet placed
against one of the pillars in the south aisle of the
desecrated church of S. Willibrord, at Wesel, may,
perhaps, interest some of your readers : —
ANNO D. HDLV. XII OCTOB.
in hoc ecclesiae Veseliensis propylaeo
natvs est ideoque appellatvs
Peregrinvs Bertie
baro Willovghby de Eresby in regno Angliae
domini Ricardi Bertie et Catharinae dvcissae Svffolciae
filivs
qui conivgali inter se et pia erga Devm fide insignes
ob professionem religionis a Papismo repvrgatae
sponte ex Anglia profvgervnt Maria regnante
A°D. MDLIII.
idem Peregrinvs Bertie
postea regnante Elizabetha
A.D. MDLXXXVIII.
copiarvm Anglicarvm in foederato Belgio
Sub felicissimis illivs reginae avspiciis militantivm
instavravit Carolvs Bertie
Montacvti comitis de Lindsey filivs et
serenissimi d Caroli secvndi Magnae Britanniae regis
ad plerosqve Sac. Rom. Imperil electores
aliosqve Germaniae principes
ablegatos extraordinarios
A° D MUCLXXX.
Above this is a shield of arms surmounted by a
coronet. W. H. JAMES WEALE.
Bruges.
DISGUISED NAMES. — There is no more extra-
ordinary instance of pedantic alteration than occurs
in Rapin's Histoire d'Anghterre, where the famous
Scotch martyr is called Sephocard. The author
drew his information from Buchanan's History of
Scotland, who Latinized or Grsecized all the native
names. He calls the martyr " Sophocardius," which
Rapin further changed to " Sephocard." The real
name was Wishart = Guiscard. But Buchanan
hose to understand it as Wiseheart. S. T. P.
" WATERSHED." — In The Lost Beauties of the
English Language, this word is said to have meant
' the pent and flow of the water from the higher
to the lower lands." In the United States, the
word is in use with a different meaning, namely,
he height from which water flows. In Crawford
bounty, Pennsylvania, is a house so situated that
the rain which falls upon the northern part of the
5 '- S. 1. MAT 9, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
367
roof runs to Lake Erie and reaches the ocean
through the Gulf of Lawrence, while that which
falls upon the southern slope of the roof runs
through the Alleghany, Ohio, and Mississippi rivers,
into the Gulf of Mexico. This house is said to
stand upon the watershed. UNEDA.
Philadelphia.
Qttertaf.
[We must request correspondents desiring information
on family matters of only private interest, to affix their
names and addresses to their queries, in order that the
answers may be addressed to them direct.]
GOETHE. — Can you inform me who the author
of the following translation of " Mignon's Song "
in Goethe's Wilhelm Meister isl I copied it into
a scrap-book about nine years ago, and till last
week was under the impression that I had taken
it from Carlyle's translation of Wilhelm Meister.
I was, therefore, much astonished to find in the
"People's Edition" of Carlyle a different, and also,
in my opinion, a much inferior and less poetical
translation of that beautiful poem. At first I was
inclined to doubt the genuineness of the translation
given in the "People's Edition," but on comparing it
with the edition published some years ago (1858, I
think) I find, with the trivial exceptions noted, —
Stanza I. 1. 1, " citron trees bloom," instead of
" lemon trees do bloom " ; 1. 7, " 0 my true loved
one, thou with me must go," instead of "0 my
belov'd one, I with thee would go " ; Stanza II. 1. 3,
" and look each one," instead of "and look me on" ;
1. 7, " th<5u with me must go," instead of " I with
thee would go"; Stanza III. 1. 1, "the hill, the
bridge," instead of " the mountain bridge " (there
is a difference, I think, also in the last line of the
third stanza, but I have omitted to note it), — the two
translations are the same.
I have also seen the translation of Kennst du
das land ? in Bbhn's edition, and that by Mrs.
Hemans ; and of the five which have come under
my observation, I have no hesitation in awarding
the palm to the one I now copy : —
" MIGNOH'S SONG.
Know'st thou the land where the lemon trees bloom,
Where the gold orange glows in the deep thicket's gloom,
Where a breeze ever soft from the blue heaven blows,
And the groves are of laurel and myrtle and rose ]
Know'fit thou it?
Thither, O thither,
My dearest and kindest, with thee would I go.
Know'st thou the house with its turreted walls,
Where the chambers are glancing and vast are the halls,
Where the figures of marble look on me so mild,
As if thinking why thus did they use thee, poor child ]
Know'st thou it 7
Thither, O thither,
My guide and my guardian, with thee would I go.
Know'st thou the mountain, its cloud covered arch,
Where the mules among mist o'er the wild torrents march,
In the clefts of it dragons lie coiled with their brood,
The rent crag rushes down, and above it the flood ]
Know'st thou it ?
Thither, O thither,
Our way leadeth. Father ! 0 come, let us go."
I am not very sure whether " clefts" or " depths "
is the right word in the third line of the last stanza.
" Clefts " commends itself to me as the more suit-
able. J. H.
BALMFORD (WILLIAM).— Wanted, any particu-
lars concerning the apparently unknown author
and " sweet Singer " of the following exceedingly
good book of its homely kind : —
" The Seaman's Spiritual Companion ; or, Navigation
Spirituallized. Being a New Compass for Seamen. Con-
sisting of thirty-two points, directing every Christian
how to stear the course of his life, through all Storms
and Tempests : fit to be read and seriously perused by all
such as desire their eternal welfare. Published for a
general good, but more especially for those that are
exposed to the danger of the seas. By William Balm-
ford. A Well-wisher to Seamen's Eternal Welfare ; and
recommended to the Christian Reader by J. F. To
which is prefixt a Preface by Benj. Keach, the Author
of War with the Devil. London, 1678 [12°]."
From Reach's recommendation, the author was
probably a Baptist. I shall be grateful for any
references to any information about Baltnford.
A. B. GROSART.
Blackburn.
"UNACCUSTOMED AS I AM TO PUBLIC SPEAK-
ING."— I have heard it said that a Greek orator
once began his speech with a phrase that is the
exact equivalent of this, which one has so often
heard. I have taken no little trouble to verify
this statement, but have failed hitherto.
K. P. D. E.
FIELD TELEGRAPHY. — I want a work on the
subject of Telegraphy, as applied to field operations.
A READER.
PEYTON, OF DODDINGTON. — Can any one identify
for me Brent, Esq., of Worcestershire, who is
said in the Baronetages to have married Anne,
daughter of Sir John Peyton, about 1640 ?
TEWARS.
"ANTHITHESE DE L'ORAISON DOMINICALE."-
Where is it from? I have a copy beginning
"Monstre vipere qui es en terre," printed upon
one side of a sheet of paper, date, I should say,
about 1560-70. C. ELLIOT BROWNE.
PREFACES TO BOOKS. — When were these first
introduced ? W. B. N.
" CERTAINE GRIEVANCES; or, the Errours of the
Service-Booke plainely layd open, &c. By Lewes Hughes,
Minister of God's Word. Printed in the Yeare 1641."
There is in my possession a small 4to., 42 pp.,
thus entitled. Place of publication not given.
This work is not mentioned by Lowildes. From
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
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a statement on one of its pages, the author, in the
times of Bishop Bancroft, was a London clergyman,
and Great St. Helen's was his living.
Was he the Rev. Lewis Hughes who was the
first clergyman in Bermudas Island, about 1615,
and used the Liturgy of the Isle of Jersey, instead
•of the Book of Common Prayer 1
EDWARD D. NEILL.
Macalester College, Minnesota, U.S.A.
MAJOR CAIRNES, CIRCA 1770.— Can any one in-
form me what relation Major Cairnes of the 36th
regiment (afterwards General) was to the Baronet,
Sir Alexander Cairnes, of Monaghan, Ireland, who
died in 1732 1 Also, if there are any of the name
who would be likely to possess any family papers ?
Major Cairnes died about a century ago.
J. W. DANIELL.
Theydon Grove, Epping.
THOMAN. — The poet Heine, in his poem Der
Dichter Firdusi, speaks of Firdusi being rewarded
with silver thomans. What is the value of this
Persian coin 1 A. L. MAYHEW.
Oxford.
NOBLE'S " HOUSE OF CROMWELL." — In my
edition (an early one) of this work, which unfor-
tunately lacks the title-page containing the date of
publication, Sir Francis Barrington, son of Sir
Thomas Barrington, by his wife Winifred Pole, is
made to marry Joan Cromwell, aunt to the Pro-
tector. Of their issue, — Elizabeth Barrington is
given two husbands, first, Sir James Altham, and,
secondly, Sir William Masham ; whilst her sister
Winifred is made to marry Sir William Mewes or
Meux — this in pages 40 to45 ; but at page 53, under
head of the Masharn family, Sir James Altham's
widow is called with uncertainty either Elizabeth or
Winifred, and a foot-note states Lady Masham is
called in the Baronetage Elizabeth, but in the
Peerage Winifred. I, for one, should be glad if
any of your correspondents would kindly settle this
point. NOVAVILLA.
LEYDEN UNIVERSITY. — Is there any list pub
lished of the students at Ley den from 1700 to 1800
and if so, where can I find it ? OTTO.
BARONY OF VALOINES.— Eobert Lord Fitz
Walter, by Gunnora his wife, daughter and heir
of Eobert (or, according to Sir Harris Nicolas
Eoger) de Valoines, had two daughters and co-heirs
of whom Christian had two husbands, William, dt
Mandevil, Earl of Essex, and Eaymond de Burgc
(whom, in a grant to Burham Priory, she style
her late husband, implying that he was the first)
but left no issue by either; and Gundred, who hac
three daughters, married respectively to — d<
Maule, Henry de Balliol, and David Cumyn. Wh<
was the father of these ladies and husband o
Gundred? • GAG
(AN-, OFER)GART. — Can any reader give some
more information on these Old English words than
s afforded by Stratmann's Dictionary, pp. 373
,nd 584? (Add angard, Destruction of Troy,
)745.) ST.
WOUGH (ryming with enough, or plough ?). — Is
liis word, which, up to the fifteenth century, was
n almost general use, and in modern English has
)een supplanted by wrong, still to be found in any
if our provincial dialects 1 ST.
"FEVERED FLESH OF BUFFALOES." — Will MR.
SALA kindly give me further details as to his
quotation with respect to Count Cenci, or refer me
o a work where I can find them for myself ?
J. BORRAJO.
London Institution.
NUMISMATIC. — Some years ago I purchased the
Allowing, apparently contemporary, silver coin of
Richard III., and should wish to know if any
orrespondent has met with a similar one. Is it a
pattern piece 1
Obverse, reverse, and legend the same as the
London groat of Eichard III. ; no mint mark ;
weight, about 87 grains ; size, 9s of the scale of
Mionnet. W.
EICHARD BLECHYNDEN AND SAMUEL BLECHYN-
DEN. — Information respecting the family and de-
scendants of the former, who was Provost of Wor-
cester, and Prebendary of Gloucester, and who
died in October, 1736 ; also, the family and
descendants of the latter, for forty years the col-
lector of the salt duties at Middlewich, Cheshire,
who died in April, 1749, will be thankfully re-
ceived by WILLIAM DUANE.
Philadelphia.
PROFESSOR BINZ. — Where can an account of
the experiments on alcohol by Prof. Binz, which I
believe has been published, be obtained ?
S. H. D.
"LOVE'S LABOUR'S LOST." — In the Daily News,
some two or three months ago, there was a letter
from the Director of the " New Shakspere Society,"
in which he quoted an expression of Burbage, to
the effect that this play would be sure to be liked
by the Queen. What is the authority for this
statement ? SPERIEND.
THE " ARCHIDOXES." — Can you help me to the
name of the author, or some account of the Archi-
doxes, an alchemical work mentioned by Sir T.
Browne, Religio Medici, vol. ii., 347 (Bonn's ed.)]
F. STORR.
LUDDOKYS. — Can MR. FURNIVALL, or any one,
give a satisfactory explanation of this word, as oc-
curring in Toivnley Myst., Surt. Soc., p. 313 ?
J. T. F.
Hatfield Hall, Durham.
5th H. I. MAT 9, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
369
" This heavy blow and great discouragement."
" Circumstance, that unspiritual God."
Where are these very constantly recurring quo-
tations ? W. GRIFFIN.
University Club, Dublin.
THE O'NEILLS OF CLANEHAY. — What is the
livery belonging to, and what the coat of armour
held by this family 1 Is the latter in any way
different from that of the other branches of the
O'Neills ? TERENCE.
ON THE ELECTIVE AND DEPOSING POWER
OF PARLIAMENT.
(4th S. xii. 321, 349, 371, 339, 416, 459; 5th S. i.
130, 149, 169, 189, 209, 229, 349.)
( Continued from p. 351 .)
As to the " mitigation " of the " feudal system,"
so as "to preserve to the people their ancient right
of elective sovereignty," by the Conqueror, I would
refer to Mr. Stubbs's History, p. 338, where that
eminent historian says that the crown continues to
be elective even after the Conquest, owing chiefly
to the special circumstances of his successors,
which forced each " to make for himself a title in
default of hereditary right " : that " perfunctory,
as to a great extent the forms of election and
coronation were, they did not lose such real im-
portance as they had possessed earlier, but furnished
an important acknowledgment of the rights of the
nation, as well as a recognition of the duties of the
king " :—
" The recognition of the king by the people was effected
by the formal acceptance at the coronation of the person,
whom the National Council had elected, by the acts of
homage and fealty performed by the tenants in chief,
and by the general oath of allegiance imposed upon the
\vhole people, and taken by every freeman once at least
in his life. The theory that by a reversal of these pro-
cesses, that by renunciation of homage, by absolution
from the oath of allegiance, and by a declaration that
the rights conferred by consecration had been forfeited,
the person so chosen could be set aside, was owing to the
existence of competition for the throne, kept prominently
before the eyes of the people : and in the speech of
Henry of Winchester, proposing the election of the Em-
press Matilda, it is explicitly stated (Malmesbury, Hist.
Nov., iii. 44)."— Stubbs's History, p. 339.
I shall have to refer to this last again, and shall
only say now that these citations are not adduced
as original authorities, but as the words of a man
who has spent his life in examining those authorities.
They seem to confirm all that I have been saying.
I do not deny that the influence on the succession
to the crown of the hereditary succession of the
feudatories was very great. As we go on, notices of
the formal election are rarer and rarer ; yet the
right is never entirely lost, but is revived at great
crises. It was not till the reign of William III.
that the crown first became legally hereditary.
W. F. F. is pleased to say of two of my state-
ments, " that they are so strange that it is not
necessary to refute them." I think, however, that
I can clear up his doubts. The first is that the
feudal system " as a system " never existed any-
where. By system. I mean an organization, complete
in itself, imposed, as a whole, on a nation by the poli-
tical superior or sovereign, or voluntarily adopted,
as a whole, by the nation itself. Now, as far as I
am aware, a feudal system (as including both govern-
ment and land tenure) in this sense did not exist.
In England we have traces of feudalism even before
the Conquest ; and the Conqueror himself was very
far from introducing a new system or any system
at all into England. He replaced "thegns" by
Norman " knights " ; but the Conquest did bring
in many feudal rules and customs hitherto un-
known in England. Feudalism is the resultant of
many distinct forces working gradually ; and at
no time is it correct to say that it existed "as a
system " anywhere.
Another statement is that " all law is made by
Parliament." W. F. F. attempts to refute this by
showing what the materials of the Common Law
were. I agree with him that there are many feudal
customs in it; but I contend that these do not exist
as law, because they are not observed by consent of
all, but by virtue of the supreme power of the sove-
reign one or number. W. F. F. shows so great a
knowledge of legal history, that he must surely be
aware of the remarkable conception of " Law "
originated by Bentham, and elaborated by the late
Mr. Austin. The latter, in his penetrating Lectures
on Jurisprudence, has shown decisively that cus-
tomary law is not Law, properly so called ; but
only becomes so either by its adoption by the
sovereign as statute law, or by the judges (who are
authorized subordinates of the sovereign) as
judiciary law. He also dwells on the great diffi-
culties of W. F. F.'s view (pp. 551 sq. 556). Thus
the Common Law is based on customs, but is not
Law as being customs. Hence I think that my
statement that all law was " made by Parliament "
was correct, though to make it strictly accurate it
would be better to read " sovereign one or number"
for " Parliament " : this would include statute law
and also judiciary law, as made by authorized
deputies of the sovereign.
It has been often said that the feudal system
was introduced into England at the Council of
Sarum, 1086 ; but Mr. Stubbs (p. 265 sq.) shows
clearly that the oath then exacted from every free
man was merely the ordinary oath of allegiance,
combined with an act of homage to the king as
supreme landowner. It was merely " a precaution
taken against the disintegrating power of feudalism,"
and its real importance lies in that it shows the sys-
tem (of land tenure) to have become already con-
solidated. This disposes of W. F. F.'s argument
based on an assertion of Mr. Butler.
370
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5th S. I. MAY 9, 74,
It is then stated on the authority of William of
Malinesbury that the Conqueror adopted his second
son as the heir of England; but it is allowed that
the king, with the assent of the barons, " can alter
the future succession to the crown," a proposition
which seems to me to apply rather to the elective
than the hereditary theory. Ordericus Vitalis,
who is quite as good an authority, gives a very
different account. He says that the Conqueror on
his death-bed did not nominate his second son to
succeed him in England, but only expressed a
strong wish that the son who had been ever dutiful
to him should take his place (Robert, of course, took
Normandy, where strict hereditary succession pre-
vailed), and added, " tantum decus hereditario jure
non possedi."
The election of Henry I. is asserted by Malmes-
bury and the Chronicle. The expressions used
by the former show that a real election, and
not merely a coronation, was meant: "Electus est
in regem, aliquantis tarnen ante controversiis inter
proceres agitatis atque sopitis," i.e., there were
disputes not as to the coronation, but as to the
election, which were allayed by the arguments of
Henry, Earl of Warwick. W. F. F. has no right
to misinterpret, as he does, the plain words of the
Chronicle, " The witan who were then near at
hand chose Henry king," it being added that he
then went to London, where we know that he was
crowned. Henry himself, in his letter of recall to
St. Anselm, says : " Ego, nutu Dei, a clero et a populo
electus." His speech as to his daughter's succes-
sion shows both the increasing strength of the
hereditary principle and the importance of con-
firming it by the elective theory; for, if she had
hereditary right, this confirmation was quite un-
necessary. One great argument for her was that
she was, by her mother, the lineal heir of the old
dynasty, a fact which had great influence. Stephen,
according to Gervase, " a cunctis fere in regem
electus est"; but his foolish acts, e. g., bringing in
foreign mercenaries (though he partly owed his
election to the national dislike to the rule of an
" alienigena "), arresting the three bishops, &c.,
alienated all classes of his followers, and terrible
. anarchy ensued, of which William of Newbury
gives a vivid picture. He says that neither Stephen
nor the Empress had any great power over their
nominal adherents, who fought solely for their own
advantage, and were only kept from desertion by
lavish grants and gifts. Thus, if Stephen's right,
after the first year or two, was not generally acknow-
ledged, neither was that of the Empress. Again,
Henry of Winchester, we are told by Malmesbury
(cited above), tried to get the election of the Em-
press by expatiating on the misdeeds of Stephen,
which were not denied by his adherents; yet it is a
remarkable fact that the proposal to elect her was
alone made, there was no attempt made to crown
her.
W. F. F. now begins a series of quotations from
the Chronicle of Matthew of Westminster. It may
be well to say, for the benefit of those who may
not know it, that it is now generally agreed that
this Chronicle is a mere abridgment of those of
Matthew Paris and of Roger of Wendover, written
in the Abbey of Westminster. Such at least is
the opinion of such competent judges as Sir Francis
Palgrave, Sir Frederick Madden, and Mr. Luard.
Hence it is not of any great value in itself, except
so far as it is a copy of those two Chronicles. The
first citation is to the effect that Stephen, in a
great council, recognized Henry's hereditary right,
and that Henry " hardly " consented to his retain-
ing the crown for life. In Matthew Paris and
Roger of Wendover the word translated " hardly "
by W. F. F. is " benigne," which, I fancy, will
scarcely bear that meaning; and his argument as
to the death of the Empress falls to the ground,
for she only died in 1167. The fact is that in
virtue of the compromise of Wallingford, Stephen
having lost his eldest born, Eustace, the year before,
agreed to adopt Henry as his heir, the rights of
Stephen's other children to their Continental estates
being secured. Matthew Paris, far from speaking
of any ill feeling between them, asserts that gifts
and letters were interchanged. Stephen only sur-
vived ten months, and Henry then was hailed king,
and crowned in the presence of a large number of
nobles. He thus did not owe the crown to his
descent, though he did owe his adoption by Stephen
to it in part; yet this last may fairly be taken as
only pointing out whom he wished to succeed, and
this wish was approved and sanctioned by the
barons confirming the treaty.
Mr. Stubbs most justly remarks: —
"The right of the baronage to elect the king was one
which every sovereign in turn was politic enough to
acknowledge, and of the reality of which he was so far
conscious that he took every means of escaping it. The
election of Henry I. and of Stephen, the claim put for-
ward to elect the Empress, the acceptance of the heir of
King Henry, and the rejection of the heir of Stephen,
place this prerogative of the nation, however indifferently
the Council which exercised it represented the nation,
upon an incontestable basis."
After describing the death of Henry II., Paris
and Wendover continue : — " Defuncto igitur rege,
Henrico, Ricardus filius ejus statim injecit manusr
in Stephanum de Thurnham, senescallum Andc-
gavias." This of course only applies to the succes-
sion to Normandy, Anjou, &c. ; but both chroniclers
abstain from calling Richard "Rex" till his coro-
nation. I must, however, admit that we have no-
formal notice of his election ; but the fact that his
authority was always undisputed, save by John,
shows that he was frankly accepted by the people.
With reference to the adherence of many barons
to Arthur against John, the chroniclers say expressly
that they were " barones Andegavice, Ceuomapnia1,
et Turonicee " ; and it would appear from this, that
5"' S. I. MAY 9, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
371
though Arthur himself may have sometimes claimed
the crown of England, the barons supported his
claim only to Anjou, Maine, and Touraine. This
seems to be also the impression of Mr. Kitchin, in his
recent excellent History of France. I do not think
Hubert Walter's speech at all justifies W. F. F.'s
remarks, p. 191. The Primate did not "acquiesce"
in the election of John : he spoke warmly in his
favour, and created such an impression that all those
present elected John. We learn, from a previous
passage, that these were the archbishops, bishops,
earls, barons, and all others who had a right to
be present at the coronation, *. e., in fact, all the
members of the great Council. The Primate, in
reply to a question, answers that he did this in
order that John, having only an elective title,
might restrain himself from giving way to his evil
disposition. Then, and then only, is mention
made of the coronation, which, we are told, took
place the day after this meeting. Can anything be
clearer ? Election and coronation are described as
taking place on different days, which shows that
one did not imply the other. W. A. B. C.
(To be concluded in our next.)
COL- IN COL-FOX.
(5th S. i. 141, 211.)
I am more than sorry to differ from MR. WEDG-
WOOD, but I cannot see my way at all to cold " as
an explanation of the element col- in all these com-
pounds suggested by MR. GIBBS." Indeed it does
not, to my mind, offer an explanation of any of
them. The word, in its metaphorical acceptation,
is always, as it seems to me, more or less opposed
to the notion of heat or warmth ; and, if I am not
mistaken, may be so understood in all the examples
given by MR. WEDGWOOD. The same usage pre-
vails in the Greek and Latin tongues, especially in
the latter ; and it is a curious fact how many of our
words employed in this kind of secondary intention,
• even when having no affinity to either of those
languages, do most unmistakably derive their
peculiar shade of meaning from equivalents in
them. Hence my invariable custom — in the case
of some rare usage of word or expression — is always
to go to work in my Greek and Latin " diggings,"
where I seldom, fail of " running it to ground."
Now for the examples or illustrations, one by
one, and each in turn. A word, however, first on
MR. WEDGWOOD'S explanation of cold, — " the type
of what is depressing, deadly, revolting to the feel-
ings." Of " deadly " there can be no doubt ; as to
the other two, opinions may greatly differ. To some
people cold is anything but " depressing," on the
contrary, bracing, invigorating, &c., and by conse-
quence, not " revolting," but very pleasurable, " to
the feelings." " Cold-hearted "= impassive, unge-
nial, unkindly, phlegmatic, the opposite of warm-
foar£ecZ=iinpressive, social, friendly, affectionate.
" Cold-blooded "=very little differing from the
former; perhaps froggish as opposed to viper inc.
" Cold-comfort "—when a man asks for bread,
giving him a stone, or saying to the poor destitute,
" Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled ; not-
withstanding ye give them not those things which
are needful." Ovid has the very expression, " Fri-
gida solatia" (Pont. iv. 2, 45), and but "cold
comfort " was his, a wandering exile, " per inhos-
pitalem Caucasum." " Cold-welcome "=when the
" cold shoulder " does service for the " fatted calf."
In cold poison and cold iron I recognize as appli-
cable the only one of the three meanings that I
can accept; that is, "deadly." A deadly poison
and a deadly iveapon are expressions about as
common as any among us. In the Latin poets
gelida andfrigida are constantly joined with mors;
and in Greek, ^v^pos is often so used. Lucan, in
two places (v. 245, vii. 502), has " frigidus ensis,"
although some understand it in a different sense.
In the first quotation, I would take " cold ways "
to mean sluggish, inactive, irresolute ways, often as
"poisonous" or baneful in their effects as ways the
very opposite. Such were Hamlet's, and of which
he so feelingly complains himself.* "Cold iron,"
in the second, may be explained as the deadly
weapon. In the third, I would submit that cold
is not to be confounded with cold, but may be a
derivative of calidus, which is often written callus
=ready, prompt. That "women's counsalis ben
oftin ful colde," is a truism few will be inclined to
gainsay, supposing we interpret the word deadly —
destructive, as it is evidently glossed in the line
following.
Upon the whole, I take col=coal=black to be
preferable to cold, as explanatory of the compounds
mentionedinMR. GIBBS'S paper, although as against
a philologist such as MR. WEDGWOOD, I do so
with great diffidence. It has just struck me that
Shakspeare says (All's Well that Ends Well,A.cti.
sc. 1), or makes Parolles say: —
". . . . Withal, full oft we see
Cold wisdom waiting on superfluous folly."
The word here surely can have no such meaning
as " depressing, deadly, revolting to the feelings."
Warburton glosses it: " Cold, for naked; as super-
fluous for over-clothed"; adding, "this makes the
propriety of the antithesis."
According to this, cold means open, truthful,
undisguised, and hence, taking it as the correct
rendering, to which I see no objection, cold-prophet
and cold-fox would be respectively a true prophet,
an honest, fox ; just the opposite of what the col-
prophet and the col-fox are described to be.
Parolles is here contrasting himself with his
* ". How stand I then.
That have a father kill'd, a mother stain'd,
Excitements of my reason, and my blood,
And let all sleep ?"
Hamlet, Act iv. sc. 4.
372
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5th S. I. MAY 9, 74.
master or patron Bertram, of whom he has just
been saying: —
" And yet I know him a notorious liar,
Think him a great way fool, solely a coward ;
Yet these fixed evils sit so fit in him,
That they take place, when virtues steely bones
Look bleak in the cold wind."
So we have " cold wisdom "=Parolles, as against
" superfluous folly "=Bertram.
What of the name Colpepper ? Surely it means
blade pepper, black being used in its primary sense.
Cold, I admit, may be the Scotch for cold, and
the reading^" but wise and cautious" Cold and
calculating often go together.
EDMUND TEW, M.A.
I shall be indebted to MR. H. WEDGWOOD by
his having the courtesy to inform me on what
grounds he believes " collie " to signify a " bob-
tailed dog," and that " the tail of the shepherd's
dog is commonly docked." My experience points
in an opposite direction. Neither in the Highlands
of Scotland, the Hills of Cumberland and West-
moreland, nor in Derbyshire, are the tails of these
dogs mutilated, so far as I know. The incomparable
draughtsman, and Hogarthian moralist on wood,
Thomas Bewick, delineates the Scotch shepherd's
dog with a fine and perfect tail.
Bell, in his British Quadrupeds, also draws the
collie with a perfect and long tail. Is not the
cur, or cattle dog, distinct from the sheep dog ?
GEORGE R. JESSE.
While I thank MR. GIBBS for his " Colle our
dogge," I thank MR. WEDGWOOD more for his
" coL=cold." (See a note of mine, " N. & Q.,"
4th S. iv. 326). I append some quotations, wherein
cold occurs : —
" Tho that comen hider, it was a cold reed." .
(Gamelyn, 1. 531.)
" ' Be God ! ' seyde sire Ote, ' that is a cold reed.' "
(Gamelyn, 1. 759.)
" But with poore Lazarus they shall obtaine
Cold comfort, & small reliefe to sustain
Their hunger-starved bodies," &c.
( The Times' Whistle, 1. 1704.)
In Rede Me and be not Wrothe (Arber's Ed.,
p. 37), the discussion being about the death of the
" holy masse," Jeffraye says: —
" Mary watkyne thou sayest very trothe/
We shall have but a colde brothe/
I feare me shortely after this."
The influence of climate on the tone of Proverbs
and Words (see MR. NICHOLSON'S note, " N. & Q.,"
3rd S. xi. 413) is very striking. JOHN ADDIS.
BROUGHAM ANECDOTES (4th S. ix. 195, 250.)—
A MIDDLE TEMPLAR (p. 250) is quite right in his
conjecture. The verses referred to appeared in
the " Black Dwarf, a London weekly publication,
No. 14, Wednesday, AprU 30, 1817." Its motto
begins (from Pope): —
" Satire's my weapon ; but I 'm too discreet
To run a-muck, and tilt at all I meet."
I referred to the index, and amongst the "Poetry"
I found " a dramatic poem " entitled " The Bug-
aboo." This I thought was the very thing, as I
presumed that that inelegant word had some
reference to Norfolk Howards. It does not
appear to be a dictionary word, for I do not
find it in one that seldom fails me, namely, " A
New and Comprehensive Dictionary of the Eng-
lish Language, as Spoken and Written. By Hyde
Clarke " — a very ubiquitous gentleman.
I was mistaken, however ; the poem above
referred to has no more to do with the one in
question than it appears to have to do with Lord
Brougham. The verses serve as the motto to an
article, entitled " Let those who don't like Eng-
land leave it," and are as follows : —
" The sneaking courtier, and corruption's tool,
Thus speak the language of both knave and fool,
'Let those who do not like the country leave it';
My answer is (in metaphor receive it),
If bugs molest me as in bed I lie,
I will not leave my bed for them, not I,
But Rout the Vermin, every bug destroy ;
New make my led, and all its sweets enjoy.
" CLIO RJCKJIAN."
In the next number we learn that T. J. Wooler
(" N. & Q.," passim), the editor, had been arrested
and imprisoned. OLPHAR HAMST.
"TEMPORA MUTANTUR," &c. (1st, 3rd, 4th S.
passim.} — This is from Lotharius, only the first
word should be omnia. Refer to Delitice Poetarum
Germanorum ; Matthise Borbonii Collin. Francf.,
1612, vol. i. p.- 685. It runs :—
" Lotharii I.
" Omnia mutantur, nos et mutamur in illis,
Ilia vices quasdam res habet, ilia vices."
R. S. CHARNOCK.
Gray's Inn.
DE DEFECTIBUS Miss^: (5th S. i. 286.) — I offer
to J. T. F. these extracts : 1. From the Pupilla
Oculi, cap. vi., de casibus periculosis in Missa :— *
"Si aliquid ceciderit in calicem ante consecrationem
caute abstrahatur. Si venenosum fuerit vel abhomina-
bile ut musca vel aranea totum deponatur et iterum
paretur calix et procedatur in missa. Si post consecra-
tionem aliquid hujusmodi in calicem ceciderit : debet
illud caute abstrahi et diligenter lavari et comburi et
ablutio sumi si poterit sine periculo : alias debet simul
cum cineribus in sacrarium mitti : si hujusmodi sanguis
quovismodo sine periculo poterit a sacerdote sumatur.
Si vero venenum ibi esse deprehenderit immissum nullo
modo debet sumere nee alteri dare ne calix vitse vertatur
in mortem. Sed debet in aliquo vasculo ad hoc congruo
cum reliquiis preservari. Et ne sacramentum maneat im-
perfectum debet novam materiam in calicem apponere
et denuo resumere a consecratione sanguinis et sacra-
mentum perficere."
2. From H erbert's " Typographical Antiquities,"
5th S. I. MAT 9, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
373
vol. iii., in the Gentleman's Magazine^ for August,
1797; I quote from Walker's Extracts, I, 470 :—
" The Boke named the Royall, compyled at the Re-
quest of King Phelip (le Bele of Fraunce) in the year
MCCLXXIX."
Of the translation of this book, made and printed
by Caxton, Mr. Herbert remarks that he knows of
no other copy than that which is in the king's pos-
session ; and that to it are annexed some curious
injunctions or instructions to a priest about saying
Mass, intituled, " Of the Negligences happyning in
the Masse, and of the Remedyes. Made especially
for the syrnple peple, and for the symple prests
which understond not latyn." The instruction
alluded to is at p. 1769, as follows : —
" A doctour whyche is called Bonauenture saith that
yf tofore the consecracion a flye or loppe or ony other
venymouse beest were found in the chalyce, it ought to be
caste in to the piscine. And the chalyce ought to be
\vasshen, and to put other wine and water in to the
chalyce. And yf after the consecracyon were found ony
thing, as poyson, or venymous beste in the chalyce, it
ought to be taken wysely and wesshen, and to brenne the
beste. And the asshes and the wasschyng of the beeste
to be put in the pyscyne."
C. F. S. WARREN, M.A.
Perhaps this note from Bp. Hall's Satires, p. 91,
may be interesting : —
" To see a lazy dumbe Acholithite,
Armed against a devout flye's despight,
Which at th' hy altar doth the Chalice vaile
With a broad flie-flappe of a peacocke's tayle."
SENNACHERIB.
With reference to my last query on this subject,
I have now to state that similar " Cantelae " are
found in some Sarum Missals, though they were
not in those to which I had then had opportunity
of referring. They are contained in Forbes's reprint
of the Sarum Missal. J. T. F.
Hatfield Hall, Durham.
LUCIA VISCONTI, COUNTESS OF KENT (5th S. i.
227.) — Corio, the Milanese Historian, who is very
precise in his account of the Visconti family,
evidently supposed that Lucia married the son of
Henry IV., although he confuses him with her
first husband, Edmond, Earl of Kent. His account
of the Earl's marriage materially corrects Dugdale's
statement. Dugdale says (Baronage, ii. 77),
" Edmond took to wife in 8 Hen. IV. (1407) the
Lady Lucie, daughter to the Duke of Milan, in
the Priory of St. Mary Overy, in Southwark, and
kept his wedding-feast in the Bishop of Win-
chester's house." Corio, on the other hand, cir-
cumstantially relates that the marriage took place
at Milan, in October, 1384; and he can scarcely be
mistaken in the date, because Bernabo Visconti
was dethroned and poisoned in 1385. He says
(Historie Milanese, Part III. p. 257 b) : —
^"In the month of October, 1384, the Count of Couci
(Tngelram de Couci, Earl of Bedford, and son-in-law of
Edward III.) arrived in Lombardy with 2,000 lances, on
his way to assist Louis of Anjou. He was received by
Bernabo Visconti with great honour and courtesy
At Milan the above-named Count and a certain Bishop,
in the name of Edmond, Earl of Kent, son of Henry,
Ring of England, espoused Lucie, daughter of Bernabo,
with a marriage portion of 75,000 golden florins."
It appears, therefore, that there is an error of
twenty-three years in the received date of Lucia's
first marriage, and that in after generations she
was reputed in her own country to have been the
wife of a son of King Henry IV.
No one would suppose, from the abstract of her
will, which is printed in the Testamenta Vetusta,
that Lucy married a second husband ; but HER-
MENTRUDE is too diligent and accurate a student
of the Eecords to leave this doubt unsolved.
TEWARS.
LETCH : ING (5th S. i. 287.) — Ing is from Danish
eng, a meadow or pasture ; letch from Danish leek,
a small stream, a leak. This, in Devonshire, is
called a leet. It may interest MR. DOBSON to
know that, in the North, a small stream is also
called a sike. If from a bog, water sipes (a common
word in the North), trickles, or runs, the bog then
is called a sike. Sike is from the Danish suve, to
drip, whence, also, siv, a rush, which, to this day,
is called in the North a siv, and pronounced seev,
as in Danish.
For the information of W. B., p. 305 — Sarre is
by no means obsolete, but in very common use in
the North of England, and is derived from the
Danish skaar, meaning a lot of rocks lying together ;
but in the passage in All's Well that Ends Well,
scarre means suit, see notes, Collier's ShaJcspeare.
A. B.
Brockett renders letch, " a long, narrow swamp
in which water moves slowly"; but letch
may also be, i. q., leg, lake, lock, which, in compo-
sition of geographical names, are, like ley, usually
from A.-S. leag, legh, leah, lega, ley, a ley, field,
place. Ing, in local names, is from A.-S. ing,
inge, a meadow, pasture, enclosure (Gothic winga;
0. G. ing, inge, a field, tract of land, sometimes
ung). Ing is liable to take the forms of ingr, inger,
ingen ; ving, vingr, vingen ; fing, fingr, finger,
fingen ; wing, wang, wong ; swang, swong ; ang,
anger, hanger. R. S. CHARNOCK.
Gray's Inn.
DECOURLAND (5th S. i. 287.) — This name is pro-
bably from Courland, i. e., Kurland in Russia. It
might also be derived from some local name in
Normandy. Courland is found as a Suffolk
(American) name. R. S. CHARNOCK.
Gray's Inn.
" ST. STEPHENS ; OR, PENCILLINGS," &c. (5th S.
1. 50.) — Will MR. PRESLEY give his reasons for
ascribing the authorship of St. Stephens, &c., by
Mask, to Mr. James Grant ? I presume he means
the former editor of the Morning Advertiser. I
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have not read the work for several years, but I
shouldn't think (in a matter of this kind -what you
think about authorship isn't worth a straw) it was
by Mr. Grant. It was inquired after in " N. & Q.,"
3rd S. xi. 153. The book contains a very favour-
able notice of Lord Brougham. Mr. Grant pub-
lished one other book (Impressions of Ireland and
the Irish) with the same publisher (Cunningham),
but that was not for several years after, namely, in
1844 ; and Mr. Grant published at least six other
volumes in 1839, besides his newspaper work.
OLPHAR HAMST.
BUDA (5th S. i. 287.) — Several writers assert
that Buda and Pest (vulg. Pesth), pron. Pesht,
have the same meaning as Ofen. It is not made
out by a perusal of Slavonic or Magyar dictionaries.
A French writer says Pest is — orient. In the
different Slavonic dialects the name Buda is
written Budin, Budjn, Budiu, and Buda. It
might mean " frontier " in Bohemian. Conf.
Budissin (Bauzen)=" lower frontier."
R. S. CHARNOCK.
Gray's Inn.
ARMS or MILGATE (5th S. i. 227.) — There is a
Millgate (Milngate) — Long Millgate — in Man-
chester, and it is not improbable that one of the
Radclyffes, of Ordsal (a mile and a half away),
about 200 years before the marriage of Baynbrigge
and Milgate, resided there on his property, and
was called, say, "John," or " Jenkyn, of the Miln-
gate," which would account for the Radclyffe coat
in the window of Lockington Church. The label
goes for nothing. It was the proper " difference "
for M. of Lockington ; and as to the " undififer-
enced " arms of Radcliffe, at so early a time as the
fourteenth century it was not altogether uncommon,
where a younger son's name got changed by habit
(as was almost invariably the case) to still retain
undifferenced the paternal arms. This is my ex-
perience from much observation during the last
two or three years. T. H.
HINDOO GAME (5th S. i. 287.) — F. S. E. is
quite right ; the round cards belong to a popular
Hindu game common in India, called Ganjifu or
Ganjpa, of which a full account is given in
Bloehmann's admirable translation of an excellent
work, the Ain-i-Akbari, vol. i. p. 306. E.
" NOTES ON THE FOUR GOSPELS " (4th S. xi.
503 ; 5th S. i. 335.)— The initials F. M., affixed to
the advertisements to the reader in these two
volumes, are, I believe, those of the Rev. Francis
Martin, Fellow of Trinity College, Cambridge,
Craven University Scholar in 1823, and seventh
Wrangler in 1824. Having used these volumes
(the second of which contains the notes on the
Gospels and Acts, the former a variety of most
useful tables and treatises) for many years I would
recommend your readers to secure a copy when
they meet with one, for the work has now become
scarce. It was printed in 1838-1840.
W. E. BUCKLEY.
WORDS AND PHRASES PREVALENT IN ULSTER
(5th S. i. 245.)— Both Halliwell and Wright give
" Beddy. Greedy ; officious. North." Jamieson,
on the word, after saying, " Expressive of a quality
in greyhounds ; the sense uncertain," goes on —
'' It may, however, be the same word which occurs in
the S. proverb, ' Breeding wives are ay beddie,' Kelly,
p. 75. ' Covetous of some silly things,' N. In this sense
it is probably allied to Isl. beid-a, A.S. bidd-an, JVlces. G.
bid-jan, Belg. bidd-en, to ask, to supplicate, to solicit."
JOHN ADDIS.
The word beddy occurs in a Scottish poem men-
tioned by Sir Walter Scott, and called The Last
Dying Words of Sonny Heck : —
" But if my puppies ance were ready,
Which I gat on a bonny lady :
They'll be baith cliver, keen, and beddy,
And ne'er neglect,
To clink in like their ancient deddy,
The famous Heck."
Scott remarks in a note — " The learned Dr.
Jamieson, quoting this passage, gives up beddy as
a word of unknown signification. It may mean
ready at bidding or command."
GEORGE R. JESSS.
THE EVIL EYE (5tu S. i. 324.)— This supersti-
tion is spread over the greater part of the world.
Virgil was familiar with it, and puts an allusion
to it into the mouth of Menalcas : —
"His certe neque amor causa est; vix ossibus haerent.
Nescio quis teneros oculus mihi fascinat agnos."
K. P. D. E.
" MARY QUEEN OF SCOTS AND HER ACCUSERS"
(5th S. i. 319.) — Does it follow that because a
Dispensation was granted in the case of Bothwell
and Lady Jane Gordon, that they were actually
married or even contracted 1 I think not. If not,
of course it must be taken that Mary Queen of
Scots was legally married to Bothwell. T. H.
TOLLING BELLS (5th S. i. 309.)— Evil spirits
seem to be much afraid of bells, though, according
to Foulis, in his Popish Plot, there is a legend that
the Devil was once so far converted as to " pay for
a bell to tole the people to Mass." Almost every
writer on the passing-bell mentions the idea of
driving away evil spirits. But as to the present
object of tolling, Bourne says, in a chapter on the
Soul-bell (Ant, Val.}:—
" And for this reascn it is that this custom was first
observed, and should still be retained among us, viz.,
That the prayers of the Faithful may be assisting to the
Soul ; and certainly it might be more profitably retained
were it so ordered, that the bell should be tolled before
the Perioa's Departure.''
5th S. I. MAY 9, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
375
He also quotes this proverb as having arisen
from the practice of praying on the sound of the
bell :—
" When the bell begins to toll,
Lord, have mercy on the soul."
The tenor at Brornham, Wilts, cast 1748, gives
this account of its office : —
" I sound to bid the sick repent,
In hope of life when breath is spent.
Memento Mori."
(Lukis on Church Bellt, p. 111.)
The 67th Canon of the English Church says —
" Whenever any is passing out of this life, a bell
shall be tolled, and the minister shall not then
slack to do his last duty." Bishop Hall says it calls
us " to our prayers for the departing soule ; to our
preparation for our owne departing" (Med. on
Passing- Bell). SENNACHERIB.
The Passing-Bell was tolled to invite the prayers
of the faithful to assist the dying in their last
hour. The knell was rung to give warning to offer
thanks for the deliverance of a soul out of this vale
of misery. This is called in Canon Ixvii. " one
short peal." MACKENZIE E. C. WALCOTT.
MARSHAL NET (5th S. i. 327.)— The grave in
Pere la Chaise is in the principal avenue, and close
to that in which Beranger and Manuel the orator
lie together, surrounded by the sumptuous tombs
of his brother marshals, and within sight of those
of the Generals Foy and Gobert, and that of Baron
Larrey, the surgeon of Napoleon I. He has no
cenotaph, or simple headstone even, to tell the
passer-by who it is that lies within the lichen-
covered rusty iron railing ; and few there are who
recognize it, unless prompted by individual interest
in the intrepid and unfortunate soldier, or by
curiosity at the wildness of the neglected, uncared-
for place. Years ago someone laid out the enclosure
as a small garden, but no one since has ever tended
it, and weeds have choked all but a few small wild
flowers. There is now no slab nor inscription such
as- was described as existing in 1827, or if there is,
it is completely hidden beneath the ground and
tangled briar. J. D. HOPPUS.
I visited Marshal Ney's grave in 1861, and it
was just in the condition described by MR. RAN-
DOLPH, the rank grass growing all over the grave.
I picked a few wild flowers, which I kept as a small
remembrance. J. C. F.
CARPATHIAN MOUNTAINS (5th S. i. 328.)—
H. J. B. will doubtless find, in the newly published
and completed Geological Survey of the Austrian
Empire, the best account of these mountains.
O.
CHAPMAN GILL (5th S. i. 327.)— As the word
chapman seems somehow associated with mortuary
customs, I should like to know if the title ofWi fine
group of barrows, near Lynton, Devonshire, styled
the " Chapman Barrows," has anything to do with
this application of the word. 0.
CAPTAIN KIDD (5th S. i. 268.) — As this query
comes from the other side of the Atlantic, I would
refer the inquirer to Watson's Annals of Phila-
delphia, ed. 1850, vol. ii., p. 212, &c. Watson
seems to have culled from all the known sources of
information as to Kidd's family, career, and death.
Watson mentions that he had seen an original letter
from John Askew, in London, dated "22nd of 3 mo.
1701," to Jonathan Dickinson, containing the fol-
lowing P.S.: — "Captain Kid and some other pirates
are to execute (sic) tomorrow, at Execution dock,
in Wapping ; Kid to be gibbetted at Tilberry
fort, Gravesend."
The ancient ballad of Captain Kid, in six
verses, and written down from the recollection of
old perspns, is also printed ; it commences —
1. " My name was Captain Kid ) , .
When I sailed, when I sailed j &w<
My name was Captain Kid,
And so wickedly I did,
God's laws I did forbid, ) , .
When I sailed, when I sailed." f $'
Apropos of pirates, Watson states that the famous
Blackbeard, whose name is generally stated to
have been Edward Teach, was actually named
Drummond, and was a native of Bristol. " One of
his family and name, of respectable standing, in
Virginia, near Hampton," is the authority.
W. H. PATTERSON.
Belfast.
DRAMATICA" (5th S.i.247.)— Was
Oxberry's Dramatic Biography really written by
any one called Oxberry ? Duncombe, the publisher,
was not a man who stuck at trifles, and I question
whether Oxberry was not an ad captandum name
to increase the sale of a very poor serial. N.
STONE ALTARS (5th S. i. 286.)— This is not the
only altar slab which has been transferred to " an
ignominious position," and that, too, at a time far
later than the Reformation. In a church not a
dozen miles from this, and in which I officiated for
eight years as assistant curate, there was, in my
;ime, standing in a mortuary chapel, a slab answer-
ing very nearly to the description of that given by
your correspondent, but which, on the restoration
of the church by a subsequent incumbent, was re-
moved from its original resting-place, and buried
under the pavement within the communion rails,
where, I have no doubt, it is to the present day.
This translation, if I may so call it, took place
not much more than ten years ago.
EDMUND TEW, M.A.
DEVONSHIRE SUPERSTITION (5th S. i. 325.)— The
ate Dr. Cureton, in his Ancient Syriac Documents
4to., London, 1864), says that he has seen copies
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[5th S. I. MAY 9, 74.
of the letter to Abgar in cottages in Shropshire.
He quotes from an old Service Book of the Saxon
times in which this letter appears, with the follow-
ing words appended, " Si quis hanc epistolam
secum habuerit, securus ambulet in pace," as evi-
dence of the early prevalence in this country of a
belief in its protecting power. Jeremiah Jones,
writing about 150 years ago, says that " the common
people in England have it in their houses in many
places, fixed in a frame with Our Saviour's picture
before it, and they generally, with much devotion
and honesty, regard it as the word of God and
the genuine Epistle of Christ" (New and Full
Method of Settling the Canonical Authority of the
N. T., vol. ii., p. 2, ed. Oxford, 1827). Dr. Cure-
ton himself believed that this correspondence, now
commonly supposed to be a forgery of the third
century, was genuine, but unfortunately has no-
where left on record the grounds on which his
belief was based. The Syriac text (with a transla-
tion) is given in the volume above mentioned.
FREDERIC NORGATE.
17, Bedford Street, Covent Garden.
"VACATION": A POEM (5th S. i. 328.)— The
author is William Hall, who was a Fellow of King's
College, Cambridge, and held a place in the Post
Office, given him by his friend and patron, Sir
Edward Walpole (Horace Walpole's brother), when
Postmaster General. From the dignity of his
manners, and his intimacy with men of high rank,
he obtained the name of Prince Hall. These
particulars are gathered from a letter addressed to
Nichols by Mr. Justice Hardinge, between whose
father and Hall a brotherly affection existed.
Justice Hardinge, no mean judge, thus speaks of
Hall's poetry : —
" I never saw any of Mr. Hall's Latin compositions in
verse ; but there are three of his Poems in English (to
my ear at least) exquisite of their kind all of them :
1. 'Vacation'; 2. 'In the Dead of the Night'; and,
3. a most genteel, as well as poetical qalanterie, ' To a
Lady very handsome, but too fond of Dress.' It is a
perfect gem." — Nichols's Literary Anecdotes, viii. 517,
518.
H. P. D.
SODA WATER (5th S. i. 348.)— A patent for the
manufacture of soda water was granted to W. F.
Hamilton on the 4th of May, 1809, but the beve-
rage is mentioned quite as a matter of course, and
not as being anything new.
Seidlitz powders were patented August 23, 1815,
by T. F. Savory ; but long before this W. Parker,
of 69, Fleet Street, had brought out a sort oJ
gazogene, or " glass apparatus for making mineral
waters," which is described and illustrated in J. H.
de Magellan's Description, &c., the second edition oi
which was published in 1779. But see further, on
this question, "N. & Q." 3rd S. iii. 131, 217 ; 4th
S. v. 246, 306. R. B. P.
FIELD LORE : CARR, &c. (4th S. xi. xii. passim ;
S. i. 35, 131, 311.)— There can be no doubt
that the names of fields, which do not change, often
substantiate many local features as they existed
centuries ago. On a farm in this parish (Fordoun),
which I formerly occupied, as a home farm, it is
certain that at some remote, but unknown period,
a meal or grist mill must have flourished, as the
names of certain fields clearly indicate, such as
Kiln-butts, Head, Mid, and Tail Dams, Mill-hill,
&c. No tradition whatever remains of such a mill.
On the same farm, another field is called " Cardan
Well," in which there is a remarkable spring, the
flow from which is copious and constant, not being
sensibly diminished even in the severest drought.
There are various Cardan Wells in Scotland, all, I
believe, deriving their denomination from Cardan,
a widely celebrated Italian physician, who was
brought to Scotland by the Archbishop of St.
Andrews, and was for some time in the household
of Mary of Guise when Queen Eegent. I presume
Cardan must have had faith in good spring water
as a hygiene.
Can any of your readers throw more light than
is commonly known on the history of John de
Fordun,the acknowledged fountain head of Scottish
history? It is known he was domiciled in this
parish, from which he took his surname, and in the
time of the second King Robert dedicated his
Scoto-Chronica to the Bishop of Glasgow. He was
unquestionably an ecclesiastic; but did he hold
the benefice of Fordoun (a mensal church of -the
Abbey of Arbroath) as a secular, or did he belong
to the regular clergy ?
From a remote period down to the Reformation,
the Carmelites, or White Friars, of Aberdeen,
were the owners of the secluded " Friars Glen" in
Fordoun, and it is possible the historian might
have been associated with that fraternity.
Fordun is, I apprehend, equivalent to Fortdun,
the " strong hill"; and, if so, it is strikingly appli-
cable to Strathfinella Hill, which, commencing
opposite the church and extending for some miles
to the west, forms a noble background to that part
of the Vale of Strathmore familiarly known as
"The Howe of the Mearns." This formidable
barrier may have been found serviceable when the
hostile Roman legions were encamped at Fordoun.
These statements are controverted by B., a well-
informed correspondent of a provincial newspaper,
but to enter upon this controversy and the argu-
ments pro and con which passed, would take up
an unreasonable space. He says of John of Fordun,
" His work is unquestionably the foundation of
true Scottish history, but it is to be feared since
Dr. W. F. Skene has failed to throw additional
light upon the history of Fordun, that unless some-
thing turn up in the unexplored charter chests of
old Mearns lairds, or in some (as yet) unknown
record 'either of the Cathedral of Aberdeen or the
5th S. I. MAY 9, '74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
377
Priory of St. Andrews, little will be added to the
knowledge which we now possess regarding that
historian." By ignoring Cardan altogether, B.
seems inclined to place him in the same category
as Finella, Paldy, or Palladius, and others who
figure in the legendary stories of the district.
Finella, the supposed murderess of Kenneth III.,
hailed from the historical castle of Kincardine in
this parish, and the ancient sculptured stone in the
old chapel in the churchyard is firmly believed to
represent the assassination, when the king was on
a pilgrimage to the shrine of St. Palladius. The
King's Park, the Chancellor's Park, &c., in the
immediate vicinity, are memorials of Kincardine
having been at one time a royal residence.
Were any one, following in the wake of the
brothers Grimm, to compile a narrative of folk-
lore, as pertaining to the north-eastern counties of
Scotland, he would find a rich mine in Fordun,
besides well-authenticated historical incidents, such
as the surrender of the crown by Baliol in the
Castle of Kincardine, or at least in which the terms
o£ surrender were drawn up.
Col. Kobertson seems to have small reverence
for Fordoun traditions when treated as historical
facts. He says (Gcelic Topography, p. 480) : " In
Kincardineshire there is a place called Paldy, which
appears to be plainly from the Gaelic ' Poll-du,' or
the dark pool, but which the fabulous Avriters
ridiculously assert to be from the name of a bishop
from Rome called Palladius." J. C. OF R.
P.S. I am indebted for some particulars in this
paper to Memorials of Angus and Mearns, a
valuable work by A. Jervise.
SIR DAVID LYNDSAY (5th S. i. 108, 136, 236.)
— I cannot agree with L.'s reading of the " pa-da-
lyn " passage, nor can I admit that the difference
in meaning is not material. It appears to me to
be so far important as regards sense or nonsense.
With all respect to L.'s judgment, I think the idea
is not to be entertained for a moment that the
child-king, in requesting the poet to " play," added,
after his first attempt to articulate " pa-da-lyn,"
the words " upon the lute." Such a feat would be
quite impossible for a child who could only lisp
very imperfectly the poet's name. That in Laing's
edition of Lyndsay " pa " reads as " papa," is truly
surprising in so clear-headed an editor of our old
Scottish writers. L. complains that Sir Walter
Scott and I (Arcades anibo !) " have not been
dealing fairly with the late Mr. George Chalmers" ;
but a man- is not entitled to the highest respect
as an elucidator of obscure passages in our early
writers when he permits any phrase of his author
to go forth without some explanation, and Mr.
Chalmers has certainly made no attempt to clear
the passage in question. Probably he did not un-
derstand it, but at least it would have been straight-
forward had he said so in a foot-note.
Give me leave to express my thanks to MR.
SKEAT for kindly directing me to a recent, edition
of Lyndsay's works, which gives the pa-da-lyn
passage correctly, and explains the " syllabis " to
mean " Play, David Lyndsay," as I suggested in
" N. & Q." W. A. C.
Glasgow.
In The Lives of the Lindsays (1849) Lord Lind-
say adopts the reading, " Play, Davie Lindsay ! "
See vol. i., p. 213, note. The meaning of the words
appears to be simple enough. The child liked to
hear his friend Davie Lindsay play on the lute,
and, in his baby fashion, asked him to do so.
" Then played " Davie " twenty springs per queir."
SCOTUS.
"BLOODY" (4th S. xii. 324, 395, 438; 5th S. i.
37, 78, 278.)— I take the following " bravely hu-
morous use of the epithet " from a paper in this
month's Contemporary Review : — " Letters from
Elizabeth Barrett Browning to the author of Orion
on literary and general topics."
Miss E. B. Barrett had sent Mr. Home the MS.
of her poem, " The Dead Pan," asking his opinion
about it. He wrote admiring its poetry and versi-
fication, but objecting to such rhymes as, in the
first verse, " tell us " and " Hellas"; and still more
to " islands * as a rhyme for " silence." In reply,
Miss Barrett began her letter: —
" Oh, you are a gnasher of teeth in criticism, I see !
You are a lion and a tiger in one, and in a most carnivorous
mood, over and above."
Concluding —
" For all your kindness about the poem I am also
grateful — 'very' grateful, if you will let me be so im-o-
lent to Mr. Lockhart. [Alluding to the critic who, in
the Quarterly Review, carped and cavilled at several
paltry and insignificant matters, such as the use of the
word ' very,' and sounding the ed at the close of certain
words.] You are a bloody critic, nevertheless. I am
glad to hear of B , and agree with you oa the point
of Patmore.
" Ever and truly yours,
"E. B. B."
The author of Orion remarks : —
" The bravely humorous use of the epithet that ha»
made the reader start with incredulous and comical dis-
may (having a back reference to the lady's graphic allu-
sion to lions and tigers), in defiance of all its ordinary
objectionableness, and outrage on ' ears polite,' I could
not make up my mind to omit, but, ' after a struggle,'
have left it to the generous and right appreciation of
those readers who are not unHkely to be excessively
amused, even if not quite approving of it."
SPARKS HENDERSON WILLIAMS.
18, Kensington Crescent, W.
Does reply (p. 37) imply that Hales-Owen pos-
sessed the relic ] It was the property of Hales
Abbey, near Winchcomb, co. Gloucester. Edmund,
son of Richard, Earl of Cornwall, brought a relic of
the Saviour's blood from Germany, and gave a third
part to the latter monastery. D. R.
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[6th S. I. MAY 9, 74.
" POLLICE VERSO " (5th S. i. 205, 255).— It can
be proved, I regret to say, that the rendering of
this gesture in M. Genome's noble picture is wrong.
1. " Pollice verso" in Juv. iii. 36, is equivalent to
" infesto pollice," in Anon. —
" Speral et in sseva victus gladiator arena
Sit licet infesto pollice turba minax."
Anlh., Burm., iii. 82.
and the meaning of " pollice infesto " is shown by
Quintilian, a contemporary of Juvenal : " Fit et
ille habitus qui esse in statuis pacificator solet, qui
inclinato in hurnerum dextrum capite, brachio ab
aure protenso, manum infesto pollice extendit,"
xi. iii. 119, i.e. the thumb pointing from the hand,
as in the circus ; and by Apuleius, " duobus in-
fimis conclusis digitis ceteros eminentes porrigens
et infesto pollice clementer. subridens." — Met. ii.
142. The gesture is not per se violent, as is shown
by " clementer subridens " and " pacificator." The
significance of the gesture is proved by Prudentius:
" pectusque jacentis
Virgo modesta jubet converse pollice rumpi :
Ne lateat pars ulla animae vitalibus imis."
C. Si/mm, ii. 1097-9.
Prudentius is, of course, a late writer; but the
traditional use of the thumb must have been, at
the very least, as well preserved in the circus as
the meaning of under the belt in the English ring.
2. The meaning of " pollice presso," in applause,
is certain : —
"Pollici proximus digitus, mediuraque, qua dexter est,
unguem pollicis summo suo jungens remissis ceteris est
approbantibus."— Quint, xi. 3.
Hence, if " pollice presso" is the thumb kept down
by the finger, "pollice infesto" is the thumb
released from the finger, and pointed towards the
breast of the spectator. Naturally, in pointing to
the earth, the forefinger, and not the thumb, would
be used ; and besides, the thumb posed in approval
could be scarcely distinguishable, in a crowded
circus, from the thumb turned towards the ground,
whereas the difference is apparent between the
thumb covered with the finger and the thumb
erected against the breast. If we look at the
figures in M. Gerome's picture, we see the physical
difficulty of the supposed gesture — one contrary to
all Eoman views of decorum. The point of the
passage in Juvenal is mistaken. What Juvenal
objects to is, not killing a gladiator, but killing
him to please "the gallery"; just as Tacitus
describes Drusus as —
" Quamquam vili sanguine nimis gaudens."
Ann. i. 76.
Unsportsmanlike, he was fond of a battue.
T. MAGUIRE, T.C.D.,
Prof. Latin, Queen's College, Galway.
THE WATERLOO AND PENINSULAR MEDALS (5th
S. i. 47, 98, 136, 217, 235, 336.)— I am obliged to
MR. FLEMING for his explanation and reference to
that part of the General Order of March 10, 1816'
under which he considers that non-combatants
became entitled to the Waterloo Medal, but he is
surely mistaken in his understanding of it. He
says the order directs " that in commemoration
of the brilliant and decisive victory of Waterloo,
a medal shall be conferred upon every officer, non-
commissioned officer, and soldier of the British
army present upon that memorable occasion"; and
he interprets British army to include " of course,
regiments, corps, and departments, with their
respective military and civil elements." But how
does the Com mander-in-Chief understand the order?
that is the point ; certainly not as MR. FLEMING
does, for there is not a single officer in a civil
department of the army who has had the Waterloo
Medal conferred on him. For example, I will take
the Medical Department. There can be no doubt
the regimental surgeons were on the field, and had
severe duties to perform ; and yet, if reference is
made to the " War Services of the Officers of the
Medical Department," a list which has the sanction
of the authorities, there will not be found one with
a Waterloo Medal, though many claim to have
been present at the battle. It is the same with all
the civil departments, and is, therefore, I think,
conclusive on the question. W. DILKE.
Cliichester.
" DAVID'S TEARES" (5th S. i. 288,354.)— My copy
of Sir John Hayward's David'sTeares (1623), besides
a metaphorical title-page of Vengeance shooting an
arrow and Mercie reaching down a sealed pardon
to King David on his knees, has a very brilliant
and mind-full portrait of the Author, engraved by
William Pass in his best style. Hayward's portrait
is also introduced as a vignette into the title-page
of his Sanctuarie of a Troubled Soul, and (I think)
others. A. B. GROSART.
Blackburn.
"LES PROVINCIALES" (5th S. i. 328.)— Watt
(Biblio. Brit.) attributes this to Dr. Ludov. de
Montalto. He also translated from the Portuguese
manuscript A Jewish Tract, on the 5'3rd Chapter
of Isaiah. Though written in 1650, this was not
published until 1790.
SPARKS HENDERSON WILLIAMS.
" CLOTH OF STATE " (4th S. xii. 428 ; 5th S. i.
37):-
"And out of spite, because I will not speak, they came
yesterday, Monday, and took down my canopy, saying
that I was no more than a dead woman, and without any
rank."— P. 108.
" Thinking to degrade me, they took down my canopy.
... I showed them on the said canopy, in place of my
coat-of-arms, the cross of my Saviour." — P. 113.— Misa
Strickland's Letters of Mary, Queen of Scots, London,
1842, vol. ii.
A foot-note explains the word I have italicized
as " a cloth of state, or a sort of throne." It will
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
379
be observed that the two extracts from Mary's
letters from Fotheriugay, near the close of No-
vember, 1586, are in marked contrast to the time
alluded to by Mr. Froude. J. MANUEL.
Newcastle-upon-Tyne.
COLLE (5th S. i. 328.) — There is a town or village
called Colle in the province of Siena (Tuscany),
S.S.W. of Florence, and another in the province
of Molise (Naples), S.S.E. of Carnpobasso.
HERMIT.
BISHOP WREN, or ELY (5th S. i. 329.)— The
babies which Bishop Wren's father sold were cer-
tainly dolls for children to play with. They are
thus mentioned in the Excise Act of 1656 : —
" Babies heads of earth, the dozen 001. 09s. OQd."
Scobell's Acts and Ordinances, II. 458.
I think, but am not certain, that they were im-
ported from Holland. EDWARD PEACOCK.
LIGHTED CANDLES AT CHRISTMAS (4th S. xii.
471.) — In Belgium the children carry about the
streets, from Christmas to the Epiphany, paper
stars having a lighted candle in the centre ; they
sing at the same time some verses of a carol. This
seems to me somewhat akin to the practice men-
tioned by A. E., and the appearance of the star at
Bethlehem is doubtless the event commemorated
in both cases. " Christmas," says Blount, " was
called the Feast of Lights in the Western or Latin
Church, because they used many lights or candles
at the feast." (Brand, Pop. Antiq., i. 471, Bonn's
ed.) JAMES BRITTEN.
British Museum.
CHARLES I. AS A POET (5th S. i. 322.)— The
whole of the poem Great Monarch of the World,
which is more than twice as long as the extract
given by MR. THORNBURY from Horace Walpole,
may be found in Burnet's Memoirs of the Dukes of
Hamilton, p. 381 (ed. 1677), and in Percy's
BelicJcs, vol. ii., p. 330 (ed. 1767). Archbishop
Trench also has given ten stanzas (different from
MR. THORNBURY'S) in his Household Poetry, p. 114
(2nd edit.), and says that these " seem to constitute
a fine poem." His Grace's judgment on these
points is not a mean one.
C. F. S. WARREN, M.A.
NOTES ON BOOKS, &o.
The Roxlurghe Ballads. Part IV. to Vol. II., Part I. and
Part V. to Vol. II. Part. II. With Short Notes by
W. Chappell, Esq., F.S.A. Printed for the Ballad
Society.
THESE two portions of the Roxlurghe Ballads contain
about fourscore samples of the popular muse of the olden
days. They are capitally edited, of course, by such an
accomplished expert in the matter as Mr. William
Chappell ; and the printing is highly creditable to the
Hertford Press of Stephen Austin & Sons. Of the
ballads themselves, it is only to be said that they deal
chiefly with love, liquor, morals, and immorality. They
swing, as it were, roughly to rattling tunes. Their chief
value now is in the illustrations they give us of life in the
sixteenth and seventeenth centuries. Some of these
would be unintelligible but for Mr. Chappell's explana-
tions. Thus we learn that " A Gravesend traveller "
meant a teller of strange stories, and that "a lift" is a
trick at whist, or other game at cards, in lifting for the
deal. We have an echo of its cheating sense in " shop-
lifting." To "hunt the fox" was to get drunk, and
"Mondaye's Worke " had just the same meaning.
"Sollid" was commonly used for "solemn," and "sad
coloured " only implied a sober hue. " Over-see-ers " was
then a word of three syllables. To drink to a mistress
in " greasy flap-dragons " was the roysterer's gallantry,
viz., " candle-ends floating in a cup of spirits and set on
fire, and he to swallow the candle" ! !
The above are among the elucidations of the text
edited by Mr. Chappell. In some of the songs there is a
healthy, hearty, honest tone. In "A light heart's a
jewel," it is laid down that he who payeth only part of
what he owes is a thief : —
" I care not to weare Gallant raggs
And owe the taylour for them,
I care not for those vaunting brags,
I ever did abhore them :
What to the worlde I seeme to bee
No man shall prove contrary,
My suites shall suite to my degree,
0 that Jits my vagary !"
" London's Ordinarie " gives many of the London signs
of the taverns of the Stuart time, and some of them are
as symbolic as '"'Blind Cupid." " The lamentation of a
new married man " affords an illustration of early allusion
to "dainty Katharine peares," touching which fruit
there has been some discussion in"N. & Q." Of the
legendary ballad, the best example is "The Lord of
Lorn," who —
" sent his son unto the school
To learn some civility."
Alluding to " God save the King," Mr. Chappell says,
" The first set of words to this air in any foreign language
were written by a Dane in 1790. The Prussian hymn,
' Heil dir im Siegerkranz,' is admitted to be of still
later date." It is certain, however, that the French
claim to have originated words and tune in the reign of
Louis XIV. ! Some of these ballads confirm the saying of
Selden, who compared them with straws thrown up in the
air, " by which you may see which way the wind is ;
which you shall not do by casting up a stone. . . . More
solid things do not show the complexion of the times so
well as ballads and libels." Their sale must have been
great. Mr. Chappell has noted down " more than 250
ballad-publishers in London ... as having published
broadside ballads within the 17th century." On the
classification of these songs, the learned editor remarks :
— " Ballads were commonly called ' Northern,' in order
to evade the word ' rustic,' which was too usually applied
in an uncomplimentary sense to be agreeable to the class
of ballad-buyers. ... At a later date, ballads and tunes of
this class were called ' Scotch ' ; when this use of the
word was forgotten, many of these ballads were supposed
to be really Scotch. . . . Ballad-singing in public places
was prohibited in Scotland at an early period. " " The
English milk-maids were," says Mr. Chappell, "much
noted as ballad-singers, and consequently were large
buyers of ballads." The price, one penny, seems but a
trifle now ; but Mr. Chappell makes that penny equiva-
lent to our present sixpence ; so that each milkmaid's
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[5th S. I. MAY 9, 74.
repertoire was probably confined to a few examples. In
the song here, " The Milke-maid's Life," the line —
" No sickness doth them aesaile "
seems to foreshadow a fact, of which Jenner subsequently
made such important application. The fashionable part
of London is indicated in the lines referring to —
" the best house that stands aroe
'Twixt Cheap and Charing Cross."
Of traditionary ballads, the best in this collection is the
one of " The Children in the Wood." Another, "The
Mercer's Son of Midhurst," is of less certain tradition ;
but, as Sir Walter Scott remarked, " nothing jo easy as
to make a tradition " ; and it is hoped that a house in
Midhurst will soon be assigned as that of the Mercer's
son ! We close the collection with regret, but commend
it heartily to all who have a taste for old songs.
Delrett's Illustrated House of Commons, and the Judicial
Bench, 1874. Compiled and Edited by Robert H.
Muir, LL.D. Personally Revised by the Mernbtrs of
Parliament and the Judges. - (Dean & Son.)
DR. MUIR has surpassed himself in this useful and handy
volume of Debrett. The dissolution of Parliament must
Lave doubled his labours, but this volume was got ready
only a short time after its usual season for appearing.
" JN early one-third of the whole matter," the editor tells
us, " is entirely new." He rightly believes that " few
books containing so many facts have been compiled and
printe'1 within such a short period," namely, six weeks.
In dealing with Members of Parliament, Dr. Muir says
he applied to editors of local newspapers, who had es-
poused their cause, for information beyond that obtained
from the Members themselves; "only two could give
any information as to the antecedents of the Members
they had supported. Stronger evidence than this, that
'principles, not men' was their motto, could not be."
Tourists Church Guide, 1874. (Church Printing Company.)
As with the advance of summer a desire arises in most
of us to seek respite from toil and worry in some re-
freshing watering-place, so, judging from questions asked
and statements volunteered in certain Church papers,
the decision with not a few, as to whither they shall flee,
is made to turn on the possibility or otherwise of ob-
taining "catholic privileges." Here, then, is a neatly
edited " Guide," which furnishes full information in
regard to those churches throughout the country re-
joicing in an ornate service, and which, for the reasons
stated above, doubtless supplies a much felt want.
OLD DEED.— Mr. C. Whitehead, of Sparkhill, Warwick
Road, Birmingham, writes : — " I have a very curious old
deed, dated 1835. It is a parchment, about 8 inches by 4j,
and .has a pendent seal attached in good preservation ;
the writing is perfectly clear and well preserved. I am
desirous of placing it in the hands of some one who col-
lects such things, and who would give nie the translation
of it."
BOOKS AND ODD VOLUMES
WANTED TO PURCHASE.
Particulars of Price. &c., of the following books to be sent direct to
the persons by whom they are required, whose names and addresses are
given for that purpose : —
VAUCHAN'S Hours with Mystics.
RALF'S British Deemidieae.
EL-SKIN'S WORKS.
BRITISH CLASSICS. In boards. Dove's and Walker's.
Wanted by A. <?• R. Milne, Aberdeen.
A PLAN OF PARIS during the French Revolution, 17?9-94.
JOORGNIAC DE SAiNT-MKAKD : Mon Agonie de Trente-huit Heures.
K.KLATION de M. Li 'Abbe Sicard sur les Journoes de Septeinbre.
Wanted by J. Bouchier, Esq., 2, Stanley Villas, Bexley Heath, S.E.
to
VICAT.— The article "Slang in High Places" does not
contain the word about which you inquire. Nevertheless,
that it did once belong to "slang " may be inferred from
the following passage in Canon Robertson's History of
the Christian Church (vol. ii., p. 200, new edit.. 1874) : —
"In the course of these transactions" (the dissensions
between the Churches of Alexandria and Antioch, A.D.
433) " Cyril expended enormous sums in bribes, or ' bene-
dictions,' as they were styled, for the purpose of
maintaining his interest at Court." The Alexandrians
groaned under the heavy impost to which they had been
subjected in order to provide the means of this corrup-
tion. While on the subject of "ecclesiastical slang," it
may be added that Rev. Orator Henley always spoke of
the pulpit as " the clack-loft."
T. R. — It is a singular fact that the " billion " is not
equally estimated in all countries. Our authority is The
People's Encyclopaedia (1873), "Billion, Fr., a contraction
of bis, double, and million (Numer). According to the
French system of notation, current in the United States,
a term denoting a thousand millions (1,000,000,000.) In
England it signifies a million millions (1,000,000,000,000).
So in Boiste : " Billion, s. m., mille millions."
LEITRIM. — Your question is best answered by quoting
the following extract fr!<m the current number of the
Quarterly: — "Sir Lawrence Parsons protested against
the implied right of England to extend the commerce of
Ireland, as an assertion of superiority which no Irishman
could tolerate."
WAT TYLER. — The poll tax on all persons above fifteen
was imposed in 1380. The collector's indecent rudeness
to Tyler's daughter took place in the following year, for
which Tyler killed the offender. The insurrection fol-
lowed.
M. T.— The line " Impulit ille rates ubi duxit aratra
colonus/' is part of the epitaph on the third, and last,
and greatest, of the Dukes of Bridgewater, Francis, the
father of inland navigation. The monument is in Little
Gaddesden Church.
" THE BOOK OF JASHER." — " If MR. BLENKINSOPP wishes
to see The Book of Jasher published at Bristol, 1829,
Mr. S. Care, Rye, Sussex, has a copy which he will be
happy to lend him."
T. R.— The Address to *a Mummy is by Horace
Smith, and consists of thirteen stanzas. See his Poetical
Works, i. 11, 8vo. 1846. It first appeared in The New
Monthly Magazine.
W. W. is, we can assure him, as mistaken as he is em-
phatic. His " Parallel Passage " never reached "N. & Q."
We shall be glad to hear from him on other subjects.
T. REES. — The Mummy, a novel, was written by Miss
Webb, afterwards Mrs. J. C. Loudon. It was published
in 1827.
F. A. — Castlefinn, on the Finn, explains itself. See
Murray's Handbook of Ireland.
E. J. C. — The similarity between the passages quoted
has been often noticed.
NOTICE.
Editorial Communications should be addressed to " The
Editor " — Advertisements and Business Letters to " The
Publisher "—at the Office, 20, Wellington Street, Strand.
London, W.C.
We beg leave to state that we decline to return com-
munications which, for any reason, we do not print ; and
to this rule we can make no exception.
To all communications should be affixed the name and
address of the sender, not necessarily for publication, but
as a guarantee of good faith.
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LONDON, SATURDAY, MAI' 16, 1874.
CONTENTS. — N° 20.
NOTES :— Spiritual Apparitions, 331— George Cromer, Arch-
bishop of Armagh, 1522-1540, 382— Folk-Lore, 383— Letter
of Smollett— Parallelism of Publication : Synonym for an Owl
in the Valley of the Teme. 384— Notes made in Cornwall—
"The Revenue of the Gospel is Tythes "—Wyoming— A
French Charade— Speech of the Protector Oliver, 385— Seals
attached to Deeds, &c.— Chatsworth— " Why "— " Cut your
stick"— The First Napoleon— Numismatic — Book Plates,
386.
QUERIES :— Arms of Stamford, Lincoln, 386— The Coliseum :
Byron's "Childe Harold"— "The Martyrdom of Man," by
Winwood Reade, 1872— Adam's First Wife— The Population
Two Hundred Years Ago— The Cuckoo and Nightingale—
"Le Cabinet Jesuitique "—" Vicar of Wakefield " — St.
Catherine of Sienna, 387— "The Private Memoirs," &c.
—Stanley (of Birmingham)— Streets of Northampton, 1431—
Popular Verses bearing Serious Allusions— Sterne, as a Poet
—Hill Family— Portrait of the Fair Geraldine— Pilcrow—
The Bard of Lucca— Rahel—F. Rolleston— W. Taylor, 388—
"Bosh"— "Topographia Hibernica," 389.
EEPLIES :— On the Elective and Deposing Power of Parlia-
ment, 389— English Surnames, 391— Deaneries of Christianity,
392 — Welsh Testament — Election of Representative Peers of
Scotland— A Roman Catholic Visitation in 1709, 393— Sher-
lock Arms—" How to Deal with a Cucumber " — Freemasonry
in Canterbury Cathedral— The Faroe Islands— John, Lord
Wells—" The Testaments of the Twelve Patriarchs," 394—
The Archbishop of Philippoli — Anna Tanaquil Fabri Filia —
Wonderful Automata— " The mind shall banquet," <fec.—
"A heavy blow and great discouragement" — Latin Sign-
Boards, 395 — "Mask" — The Waterloo and Peninsular
Medals — Marshal Ney — Short-hand Writing— Sir Philip
Sidney's " Arcadia " — " Warlock,'' 396— Life and Opinions
of Padre Sarpi — "Blodius": "Blue"— Sir Ralph Cobham,
397.
Notes on Books, &c.
SPIRITUAL APPARITIONS.
In discussing " spiritual apparitions " it is com-
monly assumed that the intelligence and truthful-
ness of a deponent is sufficient proof of the statement
he makes. He is intelligent and truthful, and,
therefore, the apparition he has himself seen is a
reality. But is it not possible that one may be
deceived into a belief in the reality of an appari-
tion 1 The records of medical science disclose
many instances of hallucination produced by dis-
ordered nerves. The Journal of Mental Science
for January last mentions that an epileptic patient
had " almost daily a vivid spectral hallucination in
the form of a newspaper," which he saw "for a
short time so distinctly as to be able to read a long
paragraph from it " (p. 496). Dr. Skae, in another
page (p. 494), speaking of the epileptic, says : —
"_ Sometimes they have visions of persons and objects
which are not present, and the objects appear to be pre-
sented to them with great vividness. I have seen an
epileptic gunmaker busy cleaning his imaginary gun,
with visionary washing rods and water, or putting all the
pieces of the locks together, narking each of them, and
pushing them about in the palm of his hand, asking me
if I did not see this, that, and the other bit of the me-
chanism."
In the New Quarterly for the current month the
editor, in an able review, " William Blake, artist,
poet, and mystic," referring to Blake's visions, saya
they were present " so constantly, indeed, that he
would speak of them so freely to his friends as of
the real persons whom he had seen recently, or was
actually speaking to" (p. 480). There is good
reason to believe that they were real to him,
although on at least one occasion he professed other-
wise:—
" One evening, amidst a circle, among whom was a
lady who was not aware of these fancies of Blake's, he
began, says his biographer, to tell, in his usual quiet way,
how he was ' taking a walk, and came to a meadow, and
at the further end of it,' said Blake, ' I saw a fold of lambs.
Coming nearer, the ground blushed with flowers
I looked again, and the lambs proved to be no living
flock, but beautiful sculpture.' The lady, thinking that
these singular lambs would make a capital holiday sight
for her children, eagerly interrupted, ' Pray, Mr. Blake,
may I ask you where you saw this ] ' ' Here, madam,'
said Blake, touching his forehead." — New Quarterly, p.
481.
The readers of De Quincey must be familiar
with numberless instances of wild and fantastic
apparitions, arising, beyond doubt, from an abnor-
mal state of the nerves. These facts, it seems to
me, pretty clearly indicate the direction our inves-
tigations into spiritualism should take.
HOWELL DA VIES.
Carmarthen.
In all those stories of apparitions, — the number of
which, the honesty and high character of the relators,
and the perfect faith that they show in them pre-
vent us from disbelieving the facts related, — there
are three special points that are always noticeable,
namely: —
1st. That the apparition appears at the very
moment of death itself.
2nd. That the apparition is only seen, never
heard, smelt, or felt.
3rd. That in most cases the seer was thinking
or doing nothing in particular at that very moment.
As I said befdre, the number and authority of
the cases prevent our pooh-poohing them; they
must be believed; and I think they can also be ex-
plained without calling in the aid of supernatural
assistance. The brain is considered to be a most
delicate electric battery, working the nerves,
muscles, &c., all through the body. Let us sup-
pose that this brain, instead of being in connexion
with the nerves, is in connexion with another brain,
all impulses or shocks which one brain might
receive would be instantly communicated to the
other brain. If, then, at the very moment of death
one person was thinking very strongly of another
person, and that there was any connexion — of
what sort we need not here inquire — but allowing
a connexion between the two brains, would it not
be possible that a violent shock or impulse given
to one brain at the supreme moment might commu-
nicate itself to the other brain with which it was
in relation. If so, then what more probable than
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NOTES AND QUEKIES.
[5th S. I. MAY 16, 74.
that the recipient and living organization should
feel and acknowledge the shock, and convey that
shock to the mind of the survivor ?
I am the more inclined to believe that this is the
right explanation when I consider that one never
feels, but always sees, the object. Now it is well
known that sight is by far the most delicate of our
senses, that the end of the optic nerve, as it were,
disappears when it touches the brain, that the brain
is most sensitive to its most delicate sense, and
that, therefore, any shock or impulse upon the
brain of the supposed character would be likely to
affect its most delicate organ first, namely, that of
sight. Hearing, tasting, smelling, or feeling, are
by no means of such a high, strong character as the
sense of sight; therefore, although we have all
heard of spirits going off with a "melodious twang,"
or a scent of sulphur, nobody believes in such a
thing. The sense which is affected by the force —
call it what you will— is the one which is un-
doubtedly the most susceptible- — that of sight.
Observe, I by no means say that the actual eyes
themselves see anything, that there is any image
really upon the retina, but merely that the most
excitable portion of the brain which attends to our
bodily sensations is affected by the shock, and
paints the image of the dying person on the brain,
not on the visual eye.
Thirdly, I can only speak generally, for many
cases may be brought forward where the seer was
really engaged at the moment in some occupation ;
but, as a usual circumstance, the vision appeared
when the seer was alone, seldom in company.
Usually it happens that the seer was in his
library —
" Thinking upon naething, like mony mighty men,"
when, at the moment, the brain was not occupying
itself with any more engrossing thought, and was,
therefore, open and ready to receive the slight
shock, impulse, or impression made upon it by the
other and dying brain in the actual moment of
death. That the brain does sometimes receive the
impression in question is, I think, from the con-
census of so many honest and honourable men,
fully established.
It is no use to deny it in the face of not only
such testimony as we have, but in the face of all
tradition likewise; it is a question for physiological
inquiry, and as such, not as a purely supernatural
occurrence, it should be carefully and systematically
examined.
In connexion with this, such tales and storiei
(should they be true) as we have heard of doppel-
gangers, &c., might also be inquired into; but I
fancy, on examination, they will all prove to be
merely tales.
At _ any rate, without going into the disputed
question of mind and soul, of the mind of a
Newton or the soul of an Ashantee, the anima
vagula blandula, or our own notions, the above
urt statement of ideas seems worthy of some con-
sideration. J. K. HAIG.
la, Hyde Park Gate, S.W.
GEORGE CROMER, ARCHBISHOP OP
ARMAGH, 1522-1540.
The following additional particulars regarding
Archbishop Crowmer, or Cromer, Primate of all
Ireland during the reign of King Henry VIII.r
which supplement the accounts in Harris's Ware
and Cotton's Fasti, may be interesting, as they
are derived from authentic sources, chiefly given
in Bibliotheca Topographica Britannica (No. I.,
edit. 1780). George was second son of Sir
James Crowmer, Knt., of Tunstall, co. Kent,
by his wife Catherine, daughter of Sir William
Cauntelo, or Cantelowe, Knt., citizen and mercer
of London (who died 1464, before her marriage).
It is not mentioned at which university he was .
educated either in Wood's Athence Oxonienses or
in Cooper's Athence Cantabrigienses, but he must
have entered early into holy orders, as he was
inducted to the rectory of Stanford-le-Hope, co.
Kent, 19th July, 1511 (Newcourt, ii., 548); and
he was also rector of Murston, near Sittingbourne,
in the same county, and in the dioceses of Canter-
bury and Rochester respectively (the latter living
was formerly in the patronage of his family, Reg.
Bouchier, f. 106 b., 1472). He resigned Murston
in 1513 (Philipot's Visitation of Kent, 1574, p. 343),
and was nominated to the vacant Archbishopric of
Armagh by Henry VIII., Lord of Ireland, in the
end of 1521, being consecrated, in April, 1522, at
London (by John Kite, Archbishop of Thebesr
i. p. i., and Commendatory Bishop of Carlisle in
England? his predecessor, non-resident, in Armagh,
a native of London, where he chiefly resided and
died; and the see of the metropolis being then
vacant, while the Archbishop of Canterbury might
wish to avoid performing the ceremony on account
of prirnatial jurisdiction being an obstacle, — all
which afford reasonable grounds for this assertion,
which it simply is). The temporalities of the see
of Armagh were only restored to him by writ of
20th of June, 1523, but with retrospective effect
from 3rd August, 1521, the date of the resignation
of Archbishop Kite, who had governed from 20th
May, 1514, by proxies, for which he received a writ
of protection in 1516 (Pat. 8 Hen. VIII.), notwith-
standing the Statute of Absentees of Henry VI.,
or any other statutes. He held the high office of
Lord Chancellor of Ireland from 5th July, 1532,
until 16th August, 1534, a period of upwards of
two years, and was a firm supporter of the Papal
supremacy in Ireland against Henry VIII., who
was proclaimed King of Ireland in the cathedral of
S. Patrick at Dublin on 19th June, 1541. Not-
withstanding his strenuous opposition to the Refor-
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ination principles, then being introduced into
Ireland, and his withdrawal from the metropolis in
1536, when the Act of Royal Supremacy received
the sanction of the Irish Parliament, he was sus-
pected at Rome of weakness, and even of compliance
Avith the new measures. Accordingly, in the Papal
Consistory held on the 13th July, 1539, Pope
Paul III. pronounced against him sentence of sus-
pension from all exercise of primatial jurisdiction,
and on the same day Eobert Wauchope was ap-
pointed Administrator-Apostolic of the see of
Armagh (Acta Consistorialia in Archiv. Valliced.};
.and from the fact of no subsequent sentence being
pronounced against him, it may be concluded that
"Crowmer voluntarily resigned his archiepiscopal
dignity before the close of 1540, as we find Wau-
chope elevated to the primacy about that period.
(Epis. Cochlcei. to Wauchop in November, 1540, in
Archiv. Secret. Vatican, cf. Moran's Catholic
Archbishops of Dublin, vol. ii., pp. 31, 32.) Nothing
more is mentioned about him, and he is supposed
to have died on the 16th of March, 1543, in about
the seventy-fifth year of his age, and twenty-first
of the episcopate, but the date is placed earlier
than that in the State Papers, iii., pp. 299, 429;
even the places of his death and interment remain
unrecorded by every writer on the subject, so com-
pletely had he sunk into obscurity during the last
three or four years of his career. The origin of the
family of Crowmer is to be found in Hertfordshire,
at Yardley, in which county is a manor called
Cromer, which in all probability borrowed its name
from its possessors (or rather its possessors from
it ?), before the time of King Henry III. (Man. de
Cromer, co. Hertf., Monasticon, i. 931, Camden's
Remains, 1614, p. 113, Chauncey, p. 54) ; but there
is also a market town and parish of Cromer in
Norfolk. The first of the name on record is John
Crowmer, of Aldenham, in Hertfordshire (Fuller's
Worthies in Hertfordshire, p. 31), and his son, Sir
"William, draper of London, was twice Lord Mayor,
in 1413 and 1423, purchased the manor of Tun-
stall, and died in 1433, being interred in the
church of S. Martin Ordgar, in a chapel of his own
foundation. His successor, William, was High
Sheriff of Kent, and married Elizabeth, only
daughter of James, " Lord Say and Seales," and was
murdered, along with his father-in-law, on the 3rd
July, 1450; and his son and heir, James, was father
of Archbishop Crowmer, whose eldest brother,
Sir William, of Tunstall, born after 1464, was High
Sheriff of Kent 1504 and 1509, and died 10th
July, 1539, aged circa seventy- three. The family
became extinct in the male line in 1613, their
arms being " Arg. a chevron engrailed between
three Cornish choughs ppr." (cf. History and An-
tiquities of Tunstall in Kent, MS. by E. R. Mores,
E.S.A., ob. 1778). A. S. A.
Richmond.
FOLK-LORE.
THE COCKROACH IN MEDICINE. — A Demerara
lady told me that a cure for earache was a cock-
roach boiled in oil, and then stuffed into the ear.
I have not yet tried it. W. H. P.
WEATHER-RHYME. — The following is a common
saying in Buckinghamshire : —
" If ducks do slide at Hollandtide,
At Christmas they will swim ;
If ducks do swim at Hollandtide,
At Christmas they vrill slide."
—Hollandtide being Halloween, the evening before
All Hallows or All Saints' Day.
JOSIAH MILLER.
142, Brecknock Road, N.
POPULAR SAYING. — In Cardiganshire, when
they wish to say a person is " a bit wanting," or
" not all there," they say " there is a part of him
in Pembrokeshire," which is one of the adjoining
counties. T. C. U.
GLOUCESTERSHIRE CUSTOMS. — Within the recol-
lection of the present vicar of theparishof Churcham,
Gloucestershire, after public baptism, the then
parish monthly nurse invariably washed out the
mouth of the recently regenerated infant with the
remaining sanctified water. She assured the vicar
it was a safeguard against toothache.
In the same parish it has always been the prac-
tice, when possible, to ring a muffled peal on Inno-
cents' Day. L. H. H.
MUMMING. — It may be of sufficient interest to
record in " N. & Q." a custom of long standing at
Bradford, Yorkshire: it is the practice of men and
women, dressed in strange costumes, with blackened
faces, and besoms in hand, entering houses on New
Year's Eve, to " sweep out the old year." This
has become such an intolerable nuisance, that the
chief constable issued orders to the police to take
in charge any person found in the streets mumming.
Several persons were taken to the Town Hall, and,
after their names being given, were set at liberty :
one man, who used violence, was locked up and
brought before the magistrates, presenting rather a
singular appearance with his strange dress and
coloured face; the man, with a caution, was dis-
charged. WILLIAM ANDREWS.
26, Wilberforce Street, Hull.
SUPERSTITION OF WELSH COLLIERS. — The fol-
lowing is from the Oswestry Advertiser, published
during the present month : —
"A strange tale comes to us from Cefn. A woman is
employed as messenger at one of the collieries, and as she
commences her duty early each morning, she meets great
numbers of colliers going to their work. Some of them,
we are gravely assured, consider it a bad omen to meet a
woman first thing in the morning, and, not having suc-
ceeded in deterring her from her work by other means,
they waited upon the manager and declared that they
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[5th S. I. MAT 16, 74.
should remain at home unless the woman was dismissed.
The upshot our informant mentions not, but we may
reasonably hope that the poor woman was not sacrificed
to the superstition of the men."
EvERARD HOME COLEMAN.
71, Brecknock Road, N.
WEATHER PROGNOSTICS : " STAR DOGGING THE
MOON." — There is a very prevalent belief amongst
sailors and seafaring men that when a large star or
planet is seen near the moon, or, as they express it,
" a big star is dogging the moon," that this is a
certain prognostication of wild weather. I have
met old sailors having the strongest faith in this
prediction, and who have told me they have veri-
fied it by a long course of observation.
JOHN CORDEAUX.
Great Cotes, Ulceby.
NEW MOON SUPERSTITIONS (5th S. i. 96.) — By
an old adage, it is necessary that a new moon on a
Saturday should be identical with its being a full
moon on the Sunday, to bring bad weather : —
" A Saturday's moon with Sunday full,
Was never good, and never will."
S. N.
Ryde.
HURLBASSEY. — M'Skimin (History of Garrick-
fergus, 1823), writing of local weather signs, says:
" If a star is seen near the moon, which they [the
fishermen] call Hurlbassey, tempestuous weather is looked
for by them."
What star is this ? W. H. PATTERSON.
LETTER OF SMOLLETT.
The original of the following letter is in the
possession of Mr. Ferdinand J. Dreer, of this city,
who has one of the largest and most valuable col-
lections of autographs in the United States. This
letter was written in reply to one from Mr. Kichard
Smith, Recorder of the City of Burlington, New
Jersey, who had addressed a letter to Smollett
upon the subject of his writings: —
"Sir,
" I am favoured with yours of the 26th of February,
and cannot but be pleased to find myself as a writer, so
high in your Esteem. The Curiosity you express with
regard to the particulars of my Life and the variety of
situations in which I may have been, cannot be gratified
within the compass of a Letter : Besides, there are some
particulars of my Life which it would ill become me to
relate. The only similitude between the circumstances
of my own Fortune and those I have attributed to Roderick
Random, consists in my being of a reputable Family in
Scotland, in my being bred a Surgeon and having served
as a Surgeon's mate on board a man of war during the
Expedition to Carthagene. The low situations in which
I have exhibited Roderick, I never experienced in my
own Person. I married very young, a native of Jamaica,
a young Lady well known and universally respected under
the name of Miss 'Nancy Lassells, and by her I enjoy a
comfortable tho' moderate estate in that Island. I prac-
tised Surgery in London after having improved myself
by travelling in France and other foreign countries till
the year 1749, when I took my Degree of Doctor in
Medicine, and have lived ever since in Chelsea, (I hope)
with credit and reputation. No man knows better than
Mr. Rivington, what time I employed in writing the four
first volumes of the History of England; and indeed the
short Period in which that work was finished, appears
almost incredible to myself, when I recollect that I
turned over and consulted above three hundred volumes
in the course of my Labour. Mr. Rivington likewise
knows that I spent the best part of a year in revising, cor-
recting, and improving the Quarto Edition which is now
going to Press, and will be continued in the same style
to the late Peace. Whatever reputation I may have got
by this work has been dearly bought by the Loss of Health,
which I am of opinion I shall never retrieve. I am now
going to the South of France in order to try the efiect&
of that climate ; and very probably I shall never return.
I am much obliged to you for the Hope you express that
I have obtained some provision from his majesty ; but
the Truth is, I have neither Pension nor Place, nor am
I of that Disposition which can stoop to Sollicit either.
I have always piqued myself upon my Independancy, and
I trust in God I shall preserve it to my dying day. Ex-
clusive of some small detached Performances that have
been published occasionally in papers and magazines, the
following is a genuine list of my Productions : Roderick
Random, the Regicide, a Tragedy, a Translation of Gil
Bias, a Translation of Don Quixote, an Essay upon the
external use of Water, Peregrine Pickle, Ferdinand Count
Fathom, Great Part of the Critical Review, a very small
part of a compendium of voyages, the Complete History
of England and Continuation, a small part of the modern
Universal History, some pieces in the British Magazine,
comprehending the whole of Sir Launcelot Greaves, a
small part of the Translation of Voltaire's works, in-
cluding all the notes historical and critical to be found
in that Translation. I am much mortified to find it is
believed in America that I have lent my name to Book-
sellers : that is a species of Prostitution of which I am
altogether incapable. I had engaged with Mr. Rivington,
and made some Progress in a work exhibiting the present
state of the world : which work I shall finish if I recover
my health. If you should see Mr. Rivington, please give
my kindest comp'ts to him ; tell him I wish him all
manner of Happiness, tho' I have little, to expect for my
own share, having lost my only child a fine girl of Fif-
teen, whose death has overwhelmed myself and my wife
with unutterable sorrow.
" I have now complied with your request, and beg in
my turn you will commend me to all my Friends in
America. I have endeavored more than once to do the
Colonies some Service : and I am
"Sir,
" Your very humble Serv*
" Ts SMOLLETT.
"London, May 8, 1763."
The Mr. Rivington mentioned in the above letter,
after being a bookseller in London, came ta
America, carried on the same business in Phila-
delphia, and then removed to New York, where he
published newspapers in the interest of the Royalist
party. In 1775 his office was destroyed by the
Whigs, and his types carried off to be made into-
bullets. He died in New York in the year 1802.
WILLIAM DUANE.
Philadelphia.
PARALLELISM OF PUBLICATIONS SYNONYM FOR
AN OWL IN THE VALLEY OF THE TEME. — Many
examples of parallel passages have been given in
5th S. I. MAT 16, '74.
NOTES AND QUERIES.
885
the various volumes of " N. & Q." I can point
out another, which, very curiously, also affords an
example of parallelism of publication. On February
1st I received from Messrs. Tinsley Brothers one
of the first copies of a three- volume novel, Grantley
Grange, by Shelsley Beauchamp, and on the same
day I also received my usual parcel of magazines,
including the Cornhill. I turned to the latter,
and, at p. 144 of " Far from the Madding
Crowd," in the scene with the rustics at Warren's
Malt-house, I came upon the recital of the
anecdote concerning Joseph Poorgrass of Wea-
therbury, how, on losing himself in a wood at
night, he shouts "Man-a-lost !" and an owl cries
" Whoo-whoo-whoo !" which Joseph imagines to
be some man answering him. And so the anecdote
goes on to its conclusion. I then turned to the
third volume of Grantley Grange, p. 67, and I there
read the very same anecdote, ascribed to one Tommy
Trotter. So here were two authors simultaneously
publishing two versions of the same anecdote.
This is somewhat singular ; and I wonder in what
way the Cornhill writer became acquainted with
the anecdote. If " Shelsley Beauchamp " permitted
me to disclose his pseudonym (for the benefit of
your correspondent, MR. OLPHAR HAMST), I would
do so ; but, in the absence of that permission, I
would here say that I am not only acquainted with
" Shelsley Beauchamp" — both as a man and as a
lovely Worcestershire parish — but I am also very
familiar with the scenery that he has so faithfully
described in Grantley Grange — that Valley of the
Teme, wherein is Stanford Court, from which plea-
sant abode the late Sir Thomas E. Winnington
sent so many learned communications to the pages
of " N. & Q.," and which, with the surrounding
scenery, is well described by Cobbett in his Rural
Rides.
I also happen to know that the incident de-
scribed in Grantley Grange really occurred in the
locality named, some'twenty years ago. I remember
the hero of the anecdote, and the situation of his
farm; but, as his son still lives there, I will refrain
from mentioning names. Although the name was
not " Thomas Trotter," it was a name that would
rhyme with Trotter. More than this, the incident
is still well remembered in that Teme-Valley dis-
trict, where " Tommy Trotter " (as I will call it)
is a synonym for an owl. Thus, a labourer return-
ing home from work, and hearing an owl " hooting,"
will say to his companion, "There's Tommy"
Trotter "on again !" or " A Tommy" Trotter "'s got
a nest in that tree." It would seem that this local
incident must have travelled, and been repeated in
various places, and there adopted. Its simultaneous
publication by the authors of Grantley Gmnge and
" Far from the Madding Crowd " is curious ; though
I can vouch for the fact that the former author
was describing a local incident with which he was
familiar. CUTHBERT BEDE.
NOTES MADE IN CORNWALL. — Cornish Christian
names. Epitaphs in the churchyard of St. Kea,
near Truro : —
1. "In memory of Mezelley, daughter of Plato and
Betsy Bucklan," &c.
2. "To the memory of Tamsen, wife of," &c.
Tamsen is, of course, meant for Thouiasine, not
an uncommon name in the county. Mezelley is
not so obvious; can it be intended for Marcella?
But Plato and Betsy ! Was there ever before such
a conjunction of the sublime and its opposite?
The following rhymed proverb, current in some
parts of Cornwall, indicates a reversal of ordinary
rules, which I hope, for the credit of the county,
is not prevalent : —
" Christen he,
Uprise she,
Marry we."
Uprising is the ceremony of churching.
J. H. C.
" THE REVENUE OF THE GOSPEL is TYTIIES."
— In this old tract, by Forlke Kobartes, printed by
Cautrel Legge at Cambridge in 1613, is the follow-
ing address: —
"To the Reader
" Who faulteth not, liueth not ; -who mendeth faults is
commended. The Printer hath faulted a little : it may
be the author ouersighted more. Thy paine (Reader) is
the least ; then erre not thou most by misconstruing or
sharpe censuring ; least thou be more vncharitable, then
either of them hath been heedlesse : God amend and guide
vs all."
RALPH N. JAMES.
Ashford, Kent.
WYOMING. — Campbell commences his poem of
" Gertrude of Wyoming " with this line: —
" On Susquehannah's bank fair Wyoming,"
which shows that he accented the word Wyoming
on the first or last syllable. The correct pronun-
ciation is Wy-o-ming. All American Indian names
of three syllables have the accent on the middle
syllable, according to Mr. Schoolcraft, as Cayuga,
Oneida, &c. UNEDA.
Philadelphia.
A FRENCH CHARADE. — Horace Walpole sent to
the Countess of Ossory the following charade,
which, he said, General Conway had found " un-
crackable " : —
" Ma premiere partie fait aller ; ma seconde fait reculer;
mon tout fait rire et pleurer."
Lady Orrery may have solved it, but I, like
General Conway, cannot. N. H. R.
SPEECH OP THE PROTECTOR OLIVER. — It may
be worth noting here that the speech of Cromwell,
of which Mr. J. Ormsby-Gore possesses a copy (see
p. 87 of the Second Report of the Historical Manu-
scripts Commission, 1871), is printed as " Speech
XIII." in Thomas Carlyle's Letters and Speeches of
Oliver Cromwell. Carlyle dates it, and, I think,
386
NOTES AND QUERIES.
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correctly, the 21st April, 1657 ; but in the above-
mentioned Report, this speech is dated the thirtieth
of April, 1657. HENRY W. HENFREY.
14, Park Street, Westminster.
SEALS ATTACHED TO DEEDS, &c. — A great many
useful clues might be preserved for the genealogist
were armorial seals described when deeds and wills
are being recorded. S.
CHATSWORTH. — The following notice of Chats-
worth from a Journal of a Three Weeks' Tour in
1797, thro' Derbyshire and the Lakes, by a Gentle-
man of the University of Oxford, is worth record-
ing :—
" We were told Chatsworth, the Duke of Devonshire's,
was worth Seeing. Ascend a steep hill and saw it a mile
off. Saw enough of it. Saw these vile lawns and belts
and summer seats. Heard enough of it too. Asked a
man what curiosities it contained. ' Nothing but what
you see, said he, except it be a few waterworks ' ; and so
turned back."
H. H.
Lavender Hill.
" WHY."— This expletive is very common at the
beginning of a sentence, like " well." But in Ire-
land the Cork people are laughed at for saying it
at the end, e. g., " I did, why." S. T. P.
" CUT YOUR STICK " — Slang for depart. — When
a Norse viking was dying of old age or disease,
that he might not die a " straw death," but gain
an entrance to Valhalla by dying bloody, he killed
himself with his sword. This bloody despatch was
called " cutting runes for Odin." EDINBURGH.
THE FIRST NAPOLEON. — Amongst the many
attacks made by the Bourbon party on the first
Napoleon, his name was not spared. In the
Journal des Debats, 8 Avril, 1814, we are gravely
informed that his baptismal name was Nicholas,
and that he only assumed the name of Napoleon
as a rare and uncommon one.
Fanatic commentators on the Book of Revela-
tion, in the early part of the present century,
eagerly connected the name Napoleon with the
Greek Apollyon and the mystic number 666, and
sought to realize, in his imperial satraps and
ennobled marshals, the heads and crowned horns
of the beast of the bottomless pit. H. H.
Lavender Hill.
NUMISMATIC. — Most coins are circular ; but I
have one, octagonal in shape, bearing a very fine
portrait of Louis XVI., with the words " Ludov.
XVI. Rex Christianiss " ; around it, and on the
reverse, the words "Tre"sor Royal," surrounded by
two branches united by a true lover's knot, or band
resembling it. The coin, if it be one, is not milled,
and is of silver, but bears no date. N. H. R.
BOOK PLATES.— Permit me to contribute the
following gleaning of arms, crests, and mottoes
taken from a few book-plates in my possession. In
looking over and comparing them with Burke's
General Armory, I cannot find any mention of
them. Some of your readers may feel interested
in the collection: —
1. William Gorman. Az. a lion passant between three
swords pointed upwards, two and one ppr. Crest, A
mailed arm embowed, holding a sword. Motto, Vi et
virtute.
2. James MacTcay, of Belfast. Same arms as Baron
Reay. Crest, A hand holding a pen ppr. Motto, Delec-
tando pariterque monendo.
3. Robert Henry Birch. Crests : first, a griffin's head
couped holding a sprig (very likely birch) and charged
on the neck with a lozenge, gules; second crest, a dexter
hand, with the third and fourth fingers closed. Motto,
Fortitude a Deo.
4. Robert Samuel Roberts, Ratharney House, co. Long-
ford. Arms and crest same as Cornwall and Twickenham
family. Motto, Virtute et valore.
5. Robert Essex Surge. Arms and crest same as the
Burges of Crendon, co. Lincoln. Motto, Qui patitur
vincit.
6. Peter TJws. Legh. Armorial bearings of Legh of
Lyme, Chester. Motto, Diev est ma foi.
7. Francis Joseph Molony. Armorial bearings same
as the Molonys of Kiltanon, co. Clare. Motto, Vi et
virtute.
8. Dillon Mac-namara. Armorial bearings same as
that of Macnamara of Ayle, co. Clare. Motto, Virtute
et valore.
9. George Dallas Mills. Arms and crest same as Mills
of Knightington, co. Bucks. Motto, Mens conscia recti.
10. William J. De Pledge. Arms, Erin on a chev. gu.,
three lozenges of the first. Crest, A demi-lion rampant,
or. Motto, Know thyself.
11. William Izod. Arms and crest same as Izod, co.
Kilkenny. Motto, Ne cede malis.
12. John Bayly. Arms and motto of Bailys of In-
shoughy, Ireland. Crest, A mailed arm embowed holding
a scimitar.
13. Co-wen Green. Per pale vert and az., three bucks
trippant, or. Crest, A stag chained by a wreath of flowers,
and having a shield depending from the neck, bearing
arg. a saltier, qu. a chief of the last. Motto, Fuere.
14. John Sweny. Arms same as MacSwynie, Ireland.
Crest, A demi-gri'ffin holding a lizard. Motto, Buo tulligh.
buo. (The shield is vert, Burke gives it arg.)
WM. JACKSON PIGOTT.
Dundrum, co. Down.
[We must request correspondents desiring information
on family matters of only private interest, to affix thei.
names and addresses to their queries, in order that the
answers may be addressed to them direct.]
ARMS OF STAMFORD, co. LINCOLN : LEOPARDS,
QUERY AS TO THEIR BEING SlGNS OF BASTARDY. —
In a quaint little History of Stamford, printed
first in 1646, and reprinted in 1717, is the follow-
ing account of " The Honourable ensigns of Stam-
ford":—
" The story of this Scutcheon.
The Norman Bastard, Bastard Beasts did bear,
Two Leopards, did on his Surcoat wear :
Which to the World did plainly signifie
His Mungril Birth, his spurious Progeny.
5'h S. 1. MAY 16, '74.]
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But when this Bastard Blood was quite outworn,
And England's King were Speech and Birth her own ;
Our Second Henry by a rightful Claim.
Matching with Eleanor, Heir of Aquitain;
A Golden Lyon Passant, Guly Field,
The Aquitanian Dutchy bore on Shield.
The Blood being clear'd, the Scutcheon perfect stood,
And thence three Lyons in a Field of Blood :
Two for the English, one for Aquitain,
Field-Mettle, Posture, all alike remain.
Fourth Edward both by Name and Blood as great,
A lineal Lyon true Plantagenet :
Investing Stamford with a Charter kind,
His own paternal Arms to it assign 'd :
Impaling it to Warrens Chekie Coat,
Who formerly the Town of Stamford ought."*
I should like to know if the above is the offspring
of Mr. Richard Butcher, who wrote the History of
Stamford in 1646, or whether he copied it from
some older authority ; also, whether leopards
borne on a shield were a distinctive mark of bas-
tardy, and, if so, whether they are so still.
D. C. E.
The Crescent, Bedford.
THE COLISEUM : BYRON'S " CHILDE HAROLD."
— By whom are the following verses ? They were
written before 1663 : —
" Sassi che hor qua tra le rovine & 1'herbe
Date ricovro a un disperato errante,
0 quante volte entro le carte, e quante
Vi lessi & vi ammirai moli superbe !
Hor a terra giacete che a le stelle
Erger pria solevate il capo altero,
Onde dubbio e confuse entro il pensiero
Creder non posso ancor che siate quelle.
E pur quelle voi siete ; ahi lasso e come
Siete dal' prim' honor tutte cadute,
Che famose gia un tempo hor sconosciute,
Non serbate di voi altro che '1 nome1?" &c.
If these lines suggested anything to Byron, the
following rough translation will show how, like a
true alchemist, he converted what he handled into
gold :—
" Stones which now amid ruins and grass give a resting-
place to a hopeless wanderer, how often have I with
wonder studied on paper your grand masses ! Now you,
who raised on high towards the stars your proud summit,
lie on the earth. Therefore, meditating in doubt and con-
fusion of mind, I cannot believe you are the same. Yet
you are the same. Alas ! alas ! How have you fallen
from your former place of honour! Of old famous for a
time, but now unnoticed; nothing remains to you but a
name."
R. N. JAMES.
Ashford, Kent.
"THE MARTYRDOM OF MAN," BY WINWOOD
READE, 1872. —
P. 244. " Until a Pagan historian could observe to
the polished and intellectual coterie, for whom alone he
wrote, that now the hatred of the Christians against one
another surpassed the fury of savage beasts against man."
P. 252. " A king of Arabia Felix, in the fourth cen-
tury, received an embassy from the Byzantine Empire,
with a request that Christians might be allowed to settle
Sic. Query := bought.
in his kingdom, and also that he would make Christianity
the religion of the state. He assented to the first pro-
position ; with reference to the second, he replied, ' I
reign over men's bodies, not over their opinions. I exact
from my subjects obedience to the government ; as to
their religious doctrine, the judge of that is the great
Creator.' "
1st. "Who was the Pagan historian, and where
can the passage referred to be found ]
2nd. Who was the Arabian king, and where
can his reply be found 1 JOHN JAGO.
ADAM'S FIRST WIFE. — According to Mr. D. G.
Rossetti and Mr.' Swinburne, both of whom have
written poems about her, Adam's first wife was
named Lilith. Is she mentioned in Jewish legends,
or is she merely a creature of the poetic fancy ?
(See Forman's Living Poets, p. 202.) H. B.
THE POPULATION Two HUNDRED YEARS AGO.
— In what books is contained the census of the
large towns of England two or three centuries
back ? If any of your contributors can tell me
the six largest towns two hundred years ago, I
shall be obliged. A.
THE CUCKOO AND NIGHTINGALE. — There is a
popular prognostication as to the season which is to
follow from the fact of the cuckoo or nightingale
being first heard. What is the saying, and where
does it prevail ? W. J. T.
" LE CABINET JISSUITIQUE." — Who is the author
of this curious little work 1 The full title is —
"Le Cabinet Jdsuitique, contenant plusieurs pieces
curieuses des R. Peres Jesuites; avec un Recueil des
Mysteres de 1'Eglise Romaine ; dont les titres se voyent
a la page suivante. A Cologne cliez Jean le Blanc, 1674."
Pp. 188, A to H 5, besides title, on the reverse of
which is the Table of Contents. D. M.
" VICAR OF WAKEFIELD." — Some of the accom-
plishments of the young ladies of the last century
have fallen so much into disuse as to be well-nigh
unintelligible to the present generation. I should
be glad to receive any illustrations or explanations
of the following passage, especially of the phrases
italicized : —
" They understand their needle, Iroadstitch, cross and
change, and all manner of plain work; they can pink,
point, and frill; .... they can do up small clothes and
work upon catgut ; my eldest can cut paper, and my
youngest has a very pretty manner of telling fortunes
upon the cards." — Vicar of Wakefield, ch. xi.
Also, to what ancient philosopher is usually
ascribed the saying that " a strong man struggling
with adversity is a sight for the gods ? "
Lastly, from what poet does Goldsmith quote
the lines,
" And shook their chains
In transport and rude harmony " !
Q.Q.
ST. CATHERINE OF SIENNA. — Will any of your
many learned correspondents inform me where I
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«an find the best and fullest account of St. Cathe-
rine of Sienna, whether iu English or any other
language? A FOREIGNER.
[Our correspondent is not satisfied with the reference
-we gave on this subject (p. 320) to Alban Butler's Lives
of the Saints, but writes : " My object in asking you the
question was to try and elicit the fact whether any
monograph had been written on one of the most attractive
characters amongst female saints. It is one of the glories
of England that you have so many specialists — Mr.
Morrison (St. Bernard), Dean Church (St. Anselm), Mrs.
Oliphant (St. Francis of Assisi), &c. I trust, therefore,
under the circumstances, you will allow me to repeat the
question."]
" THE PRIVATE MEMOIRS and Confessions of a Justified
Sinner : written by himself : with a detail of curious
Traditionary Facts, and other evidence, by the Editor."
In 1804 was published by Messrs. Longman,
London, this rather singular work. Is it known
who was the author or editor ? T. G. S.
Edinburgh.
STANLEY (OF BIRMINGHAM). — Where can this
writer's congregational tunes be obtained ?
C. A. WARD.
May fair.
STREETS OF NORTHAMPTON, 1431. —
"Seint Thomas Brigge, Bereward-strete, Seint Gile-
strete, Swynwel-strete, Kyngeswelastrete, Seint Mary-
«trete, Seynt Martynstrete, et le chemin appelle le mar-
ketplace." (Rot. Pat. 9 H. VI., Part I.)
HERMENTRUDE.
POPULAR VERSES BEARING SERIOUS ALLUSIONS.
—Can any of your readers inform me what is the
origin of the nursery rhyme —
" I '11 sing a song of sixpence, a bag full of rye " ?
I have always heard that, like Little Jack Homer
(which alludes to the misappropriation of a large
sum of money entrusted by the last Abbot of
Glastonbury to one John Horner), it dates from
the time of the Reformation ; but I should be
glad to learn to what abbey or story it has re-
ference. Qt w.
STERNE, AS A POET.— The following lines are at-
tributed to the witty author of Tristram Shandy:—
" The lark hath got a shrill fantastic pipe,
With no more music than a snipe ;
Whereas the cuckoo's note
Is measured and composed, by rote ;
His method is distinct and clear
And dwells
Like bells
Upon the ear,
Which is the sweetest music one can hear."
Is there authority for fathering these lines on
Sterne ; if so, where are they to be found in his
collected works ? It is well known that Sterne
was passionately fond of music, and was himself
no mean performer on the violin, but I am not
aware that he ever practised the sister art of
p°^ry- w. A. c.
Glasgow.
HILL FAMILT. — I wish to obtain a pedigree, or
other genealogical information, concerning the
Hill family, who are traditionally said to have
obtained from John of Gaunt a grant of the manor
of Barton cum Ogbeer, in Cornwall. John Hill, a
member of this family, lived at Freemantle, near
Southampton, until his death on February 1, 1814;
he married a daughter of Henry Halcomb, and
had a son Henry, who married a Miss Mitchell,
and shortly after his father's death sold Freemantle
to a Mr. Alexander, and lived first at Wyatons, or
Wiaton, near Maidstone, and afterwards at St.
Hill, near East Grinstead. The Hills are con-
nected with the Lowndes, Geary, Halcomb, and
other families. Can any reader of " N. & Q."
kindly give me any information 1
WM. FLETCHER.
Temple Street, Oxford.
PORTRAIT OF THE FAIR GERALDINE. — In what
work appeared the portrait of the subject of Surrey's
sonnet, engraved by Scriven (after the original
picture preserved at Woburn), and published by
Longmans, &c., in 1809 1 JAMES GRAVES.
PILCROW. — Whence this term for the paragraph
mark IT ? It is thus used in Tusser's Husbandry.
W. D. B.
THE BARD OF LUCCA. — Who was he who six
centuries ago wrote on the parable of Fortune's
whirling wheel —
" Qual uomo e in su la rota,
Per ventura, non si rallegri," &c.
H. E. WlLKIN.
Anerley.
RAHEL. — Why does " Eahel" appear in the 15th
verse of the 31st chapter of Jeremiah instead of
Rachel 1 It looks like a misprint, but is repeated
in every copy of the English version only. It is
not warranted by the Hebrew or Greek.
FREDERICK MANT.
Egham Vicarage.
F. ROLLESTON. — I ask for any particulars of the
late Mr. F. Rolleston, of Keswick, who wrote
Mazzaroth ; or, the Constellations. He endeavours
to show the connexion of the Zodiac with primitive
prophecy, but died before the fourth part was
through the press, and the posthumous portion has
been edited by another hand, " C. D." There is a
fifth part on Egyptian Astronomy, and another on
Indian Astronomy appears to have been in con-
templation during his last illness. The parts were
published by Rivingtons at intervals between
1862-65. W. A. CARINS.
W. TAYLOR.— Who was W. Taylor, the author of
several epigrams in Dodsley's Collection of Poems,
1782, v. 308, and where can any account of him
be found ? H. P. D.
5th S. I. MAY 16, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
389
" BOSH." — I have heard that this word is derived
from the Arabic, and traces its origin back to the
Crusades. Is this correct ? WICCAMICUS.
\_Bosli is said to signify " empty " in Turkish. In
Borrow's Word Book of the Romany it is described as a
Gipsy word, derived from the Persian, and meaning
" fiddle," " play," and "joke." Probably we get the true
derivation nearer home. Bosch is the name in Holland
and Flanders for butter adulterated with salt and water,
and, therefore, of little worth. It, perhaps, has some
affinity with the German Bosheit = evil, malitia, nequitia,
perversitas, &c.]
" TOPOGRAPHIA HIBERNICA" OF GIRALDUS CAM-
BRENSIS. — Is there an English translation of this
work, and if so, where can it be obtained ]
A NATURALIST.
ON THE ELECTIVE AND DEPOSING POWER
OF PARLIAMENT.
(4th S. xii. 321, 349, 371, 389, 416, 459; 5th S. i.
130, 149, 169, 189, 209, 229, 349, 369.)
( Concluded from p. 371 .)
In the case of Henry III., I do not think that
my opponent can fairly bring against me the fact
that no formal notice of his election is found. The
troubled state of the country, and the impossibility
•of gathering the barons together, explain this very
well ; and what he is pleased to call the " notion "
of that eminent antiquary, Sir Harris Nicolas, as to
the date of the reign being reckoned from the coro-
nation, is not to be disposed of so lightly. I have
already discussed the point, and, as it is only inci-
dental to the present inquiry, I will not revert to
it here. (Of. Hallam, M. A., vol. ii. note 14.)
I have always admitted that the case of Ed-
ward I. is the first authenticated one where fealty
is sworn to the king though absent, and though he
was only crowDed on his return two years later
(W. F. F., on p. 209, makes a slip of the pen in
saying that he received the oaths four days after
his father's death : he had already mentioned the
right interval, two years, on p. 389 of the last
volume). We are then confronted with a very
striking passage as to the succession of Edward II.,
from a contemporary annalist ; but, as his name is
not given, he was probably of no great authority.
I do not, of course, know from what edition of Wal-
singham W. F. F. is quoting. The Kolls edition gives
ti very different reading ; instead of " jure here-
ditario et etiain assensu procerum," it has " non tarn
jure hereditario quam unanimi consensit procerum
et magnatum" — words which mean quite another
thing, and show that though descent had some
influence, yet the assent of the peers and magnates
was required to supplement it. It is a very re-
markable expression indeed, and affords but one
more proof that the idea of election by the members
of the Great Council never quite died out, though
often, in appearance, overshadowed by that of
hereditary succession.
W. F. F. then attacks Mr. Freeman's interpre-
tation of the statute 25 Edw. III., c. 2. The
text of that statute is as follows : — " La lei de la
Corone Dengleterre est, et ad este touz jours tiele,
que les enfantz des Rois Dengleterre, quell part
qils soient neex en Engleterre ou aillors, sont ables
et deivent porter heritage apres la mort lour
auncestors." Mr. Freeman remarks on this, " The
object of this statute is to make the king's
children, and others born of English parents
beyond sea, capable of inheriting in England. As
far as the succession to the crown is concerned, its
effect is simply to put a child of the king born out
of the realm on the level with his brother born in
the realm." This seems to be the natural inter-
pretation, apart from all preconceived theory.
W. F. F. aptly remarks that it was passed to
meet the case of Richard, son of the Black Prince,
born at Bordeaux ; but I cannot follow him at all
when he goes on to say that Mr. Freeman
"actually asserts that a statute which in terms
provides for the succession, did not apply to the
succession to the throne, because it also applied to
the succession to the titles and estates of the
barons." I think that all candid persons will
admit that the statute is simply one of naturaliza-
tion ; it provides that persons born beyond the
sea may " porter heritage " (i. e., are capable of
taking), without specifying either the crown or
baronial estates. I am unable to find any passage
in Mr. Freeman's works in which he makes use
of the argument attributed to him by W. F. F.
I understand Mr. Freeman to mean that the effect
of this Act was to allow any of the king's children,
no matter where he or she might be born, to take
either the crown or baronial estates.
W. F. F. makes two inconsistent statements
about Henry V. On p. 210, we learn that we
could not have a " more distinct assertion of here-
ditary right " than we find in his case ; whereas
we are told, on p. 4, " he reigned, as did his father,
by force of arms, aided by the popularity gained
by military prowess and success." Which of these
two conflicting assertions are we to adopt?
My opponent then goes on to wonder why Mr.
Freeman does not couple the case of Henry VI.
with those of Edward II. and Richard II., as in-
stances of deposition ; and gives sundry reasons
for this omission. If he will take the trouble to
look at the Norman Conquest, i. 595, he will find
Mr. Freeman's reasons for this omission, viz., that
after York's claim of the crown a compromise was
made by which Henry VI. was to reign for life,
and York was to succeed him ; but that he was
held to have broken this agreement, and the
Yorkists considered their leader as de jure king.
Thus there was no deposition properly so called.
W. F. F., in answer to my arguments on the
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particular cases of Edward II. and Richard II.,
refers back to his own, which I was endeavouring
to meet, and then calls the chroniclers I cited un-
trustworthy. I am glad he is so well pleased with
his own arguments ; but is there not a slight in-
consistency in quoting Walsingharn as an authority
for Edward I. and Edward II., and yet rejecting
his testimony as to Kichard II.'s deposition, when
it is most probably contemporary 1 He mistakes
the meaning of the single phrase which he does
quote respecting Kichard II. The chronicler says
that, after agreeing to his deposition, the king
added that he would like the Duke of Lancaster
to take his place : " sed quia hoc in potestate sua
non erat " (i. e. as he could not name a successor),
he deputes two of his officers to announce merely
his abdication to " all the estates of the realm."
I shall not attempt to meet W. F. F.'s attack on
Mr. Hallam's account of the reign of Richard II. ;
his name is too high, and his book has been too
narrowly scrutinized, in vain, to need it. I may
say that W. F. F. has by no means convinced me
of the accuracy of his statements on this head, and
that the recognition of William and Mary is
indisputably a departure from strict hereditary
succession, as I shall be able to show when I treat
more in detail of the case.
W. F. F. then charges me with misquoting and
misinterpreting the passage from Cardinal Pole. If
my learned opponent will turn back to p. 351 of
the last volume he will find that I wrote " populus
regem procreat." MR. PURTON then asked me
where it was to be found, and by inadvertence I
put " creat " for " procreat." I am sorry for the
mistake, which was entirely due to carelessness on
my part. I cannot, however, admit the inter-
pretation that is proposed. The evident meaning of
the words is that the king is the child of his
people, i.e. is elected by them (compare another
expression in the same passage, " a king exists for
the sake of his people "), not that the institution of
monarchy was due to the " general consent of
society." Bellarmine, Suarez, and Mariana too,
did not say that the English monarchy existed
by English law, but that the people were sove-
reign, that they could entrust powers to some of
their number, and that they could resume them
again (vide Ranke's Popes, Bonn's edition, ii. 7-8).
See the whole passage of Pole in Froude, iii. 34.
Let me repeat, for the last time, that I do not
quote the words of Stubbs, Freeman, or Hallam as
original authorities, but simply as opinions, which
demand respect and consideration owing to the
well-known historical genius and profound learning
of those writers. I have no desire to rest my case
on their authority, but quote them simply in
answer to my opponent — counter authorities of
West, Watkins, Blackstone, &c. Recent researches
have altered commonly received views in many
departments of learning. In the case of English
history they have shown the continuous develop-
ment of primitive Teutonic institutions in England,,
modified (but not formed) by various foreign in-
fluences, e.g., Danish, Norman, Angevin, of which
the two former are really Teutonic in a foreign garb.
W. F. F. winds up with a quotation from a
learned legal historian, whose sentiments I most
thoroughly endorse. Let every statement made
by the best historians be carefully weighed and
tested by external evidence ; let "blind acquiescence
in arbitrary assertion, or implicit reliance on the
authority of great names," be cast away ; and let
the one object be the pursuit of the truth. In
supporting a certain view as to English monarchy ^
my object has been solely to get at the truth, and
to endeavour to consider the question on its merits.
It is for others to judge how far I have succeeded
in establishing my position.
In a P.S. my opponent makes a fierce onslaught
on Mr. Freeman, on the supposition, unsupported
by any external evidence, that a certain article in
the Saturday Revieiv, reviewing Mr. Yeatman^
History of the Common Laiv, was written by him.
This is surely a weak foundation on which to pile
such a heap of accusations as follows. The tracing
back royal pedigrees to Woden is, as any one may
see, a mere fiction to represent the king as the
child of the gods, and means no more than Sioyei^s
in Homer ; for, of course, the actual existence of
Woden is a thing which not even W. F. F., I am sure,
would dream of. Mr. Freeman's " crotchet " about
the etymology of " cyning " is supported by such
Teutonic scholars as Allen, Kemble, Stubbs, &c.
The succeeding remarks as to the obligations of
Mr. Freeman and Mr. Stubbs to Finlason's edition
of Reeves's History of the Law, require much
stronger proofs than are adduced, the charges being
very serious. Every idea which occurs in that
book, and which may be found again in Freeman
and Stubbs, was not necessarily borrowed by these
writers from that source ; and it is very bad
taste in W. F. F., or any editor of Reeves, to
assume this, and make it the basis of such sweep-
ing accusations. It is ludicrous in the extreme to
learn, on W. F. F.'s authority, that Mr. Stubbs is.
" sadly at fault" in constitutional history ! W. F. F.
says that Mr. Stubbs " ascribes to Mr. Finlason an
idea of the origin of trial by jury quite the opposite
of what Mr. Finlason has given." Now Mr. Stubbs
states in the note to p. 612 of his History, "Finlason
maintains that trial by j ury was derived by the Anglo-
Saxons, through the Britons, from Rome." W. F. F.
denies this, but a glance at Finlason's Introduction to
Reeves will show that Mr. Stubbs was quite correct.
On p. xxi we read, " Trial by jury, so often supposed
to be essentially of English origin, was part of the
Roman system," and this is confirmed by a refer-
ence to Phillimore's Introdtiction to Roman Law,.
p. 17. On p. Iviii we hear that* it had died away,,
but was "revived by degrees by the Saxons"; and
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a little farther on it is said, that " an intelligent
administration of justice was restored by infusing
the Saxon spirit into Eoman institutions." If,
then, it was of Roman origin, it could only get to
the Saxons through the Britons, as the Romans
had abandoned Britain at least 40 years before
the great Teutonic immigration. This disposes of
one charge : the others, no doubt, would be found
to be as baseless, if minutely investigated, a task
for which I have neither time nor inclination.
W. A. B. C.
ENGLISH SURNAMES.
(5th S. i. 262, 330, 352.)
To DR. CHARNOCK I can have but little to reply.
He fetches such a tremendous compass, and touches
at so many philological ports before he lays his
broadside alongside mine that (bearing in mind
your limited space) I hesitate to follow him in his
" great circle sailing." I will merely deferentially,
then, hint to DR. CHARNOCK that I never attempted
to associate Guy Fawkes or Vaux with the disestab-
lished " Royal Property " in Lambeth ; and that I
never asserted that Guy was a descendant of a
Norman family by the name of Vaux. I never
heard of any Norman family by the name of Vaux.
I know a French gentleman named " Des Vaux "
(de Vallibus') even now ; but he is of Touraine and
not of Normandy ; and I may remark that one of
the commonest and one of the drollest errors into
which professed genealogists fall is to assume that
every man with a French-sounding name must
needs be descended from " a Norman family." They
forget that, after the Conquest, there came to
England and settled among us Frenchmen from
Guienne, from Poitou, from Aquitaine, and from
many other provinces of France. Very likely the
man with the Gallic-sounding name is not descended
from any " family " at all ; possibly he never
had a legitimate grandfather; and he may have
picked up his name by one out of a hundred means
of which the genealogists never dreamed. I have,
for example, met with several persons of avowedly
Jewish extraction who bore the designations of some
of the most illustrious Venetian families. From
those houses they never claimed lineal descent ;
but they derived their appellations of Manin, or
Grimani, or Foscari, from the fact that when their
ancestors were (as frequently happened in Venice)
converted to Christianity, a noble Manin, or
Grimani, or Foscari, stood sponsor for them at the
font, and endowed them, according to the custom,
with his family name. Thus it has been held by
some Italian antiquaries that Othello was a bap-
tized Mahometan, but that he took the name of " II
Moro " " from a noble Venetian his sponsor." As
for Guy " Fawkes" or "Vaux," his ancestors may
have been Yorkshire yeomen of Saxon or of Danish
extraction. My assumption was that one of Guy's
fore-elders may have been a feudatory of a Norman
baron ; that he lived in a valley, and was con-
sequently known on his lord's French or Latin
muster-roll as "Des Vaux," or "de Vallibus";
with Tom or Dick for a Christian name, as the
case might be. Nor again did I ever, as DR.
CHARNOCK has implied, imagine that people
whose names terminate with "spear" or "staff"
necessarily derive their cognomens from spears or
staves. When I gave Dr. Cowel's "De Rubra
Spatha," as the Latin equivalent for " Rouspee,"
" Rospear," " Rousby," and the rest, I understood
" Spatha " to be the Latin, not for a spear, but for
a short broad flat sivord — the Italian " spada" and
the French " epee"; and I considered " de Rubra
Spatha" to be the equivalent for " De Rousse
Epee " — of the red, rosy, ruddy, or bloody sword.
Coming now to MR. BARDSLEY, I have to thank
that gentleman for his temperate and courteous
reply to my attack on that which is evidently a
pet theory with him, — the derivation of " Fawkes "
or "Vaux" from "Fulk," "Foulque," or "Foulques."
I will be as brief as ever I possibly can in my
reply, and will confine myself to the " Fawkes " or
" Vaux" head of controversy ; because I feel that
better correspondents than I are waiting for
audience in the ante-chamber of " N. & Q." ; and,
indeed, to have scope and verge enough, the name-
mongers would need a book as big as Bayle's
Dictionary, or an arena as huge as Westminster
Hall for fighting out their differences. I may have
been wrong in hastily assuming that a man called
"Guido Foulques" would have two Christian
names and no surname ; but I maintain that I
am not wrong in the sense in which MR. BARDSLEY
congratulates himself on my error. " Foulque "
became, but was not originally, a Christian name,
strictly so termed. It was an epithet, a nick-
name, and perhaps a rude pre-heraldic cognizance.
Menage (Origines de la Langue Franfaise, ed.
Courbe, Paris, 1650, p. 324) derives "Foulque"
from "Fulica"; and "Fulica" is rendered by
Cooper (Stephani Thesaurus, London, 1573) as " a
sea bird much like to our Coote (Coot), much seen
in fresh waters, especially in Italy." Here, to
begin with, is a hint for MR. BARDSLEY, who, un-
less I misread him, does not include the coot in
the list of birds enumerated by him (p. 440-1) as
nicknames given to men ; and who, unless I am
blind, does not mention " Coote " as a surname
(any more than he does " Stanley ") in his " Index
of Instances." Now, " Coote " is a very old Eng-
lish name, rendered, as we all know, illustrious in
the last century (it fell under a cloud in the early
years of the present one) by the brave soldier,
General Sir Eyre Coote. These remarks, you will
admit, are not a digression from my starting-
point, which is " Foulque " or " Fulk." But why
" Foulkes " with an s, and as a surname 1 I am
quite ready to grant that this " Foulques" branched
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off into" Foulkes," "Foakes," "Fawson," "Faxon,"
&c., but not, I contend, into " Vaux "; simply for
this reason, that the son of " Foulque " was in
Norman-French " Fitz-Foulque " (the phantom
of " her frolic Grace," in Don Juan, will at once
arise to the reminiscent mind), but that in
process of time the " Filz " or " Fitz " was
dropped, and "Foulque" took the English
genitive (apostrophe s), as " Foulque his son," or
"Foulque's." MR. BARDSLEY adduces "Wil-
liams " and " Phillips " as pieces de conviction
against me. He might have added " Thomas,"
" Stephen," "Adam," and "George." But in the first
instance we have living evidence to show that there
was a " Fitz- William," and I never heard of a Mr.
" William " pur et simple, without the prefix, or
without the s. A " Phillip," without the genitive
s, we had in a late distinguished Scottish painter ;
but I am entitled to assume that his name was once
McPhillip, reasoning from the analogy presented
by the Scottish "McGeorge," "McAdam," and
"McLevy," and the Scotch-Irish "McHenry." Thus
also from " Thomas " there has, probably, dropped
off that "Ap " which is still retained by a celebrated
living harpist. I am quite content to travel pari
passu with MR. BARDSLEY in tracing "Foulques"
as far as "Foakes," or "Fawson," or "Faxon";
but how can he explain his leap from " Faukes "
to " Vaux " 1 " Vaux " into " Faukes," or even
" Fox," I could better understand ; for names
among the common people have a tendency to
soften in sound as they become corrupt and vul-
garized. Thus, the stately and austere " Pedro
Ximenes " (a brand for sherry) became the ludi-
crous but glib " Petersameen." I adhere (with all
deference towards MR. BARDSLEY) to " Vaux " as
the derivation of Guy's name, mainly on the ground
of territorial association ; because Guy's fore-elders
were Yorkshire yeomen ; because Yorkshire is a
country of hills and dales, and because we have
still one north country title precisely equivalent
to Cowel's " De Vallibus" in the Lord of "Vaux."
Does MR. BARDSLEY contend that the brother of
the late illustrious statesman and lawyer should
call himself Lord Brougham and Foulques ? Again,
we have an equivalent in sound Old English for the
French " Vaux," or " Des Vaux," and the Latin
" De Vallibus," in the name of " Alan A'Dale," one
of the companions of Eobin Hood. G. A. SAL A.
Brompton.
P.S. MR. BARDSLEY has overlooked a distinct
caveat on my part as to the probably loose and
arbitrary conclusions jumped at by the scriveners
who drew old deeds when they Latinized English
names. Yet did it seem, and it still seems, likely
enough that scriveners who drew deeds, three cen-
turies, perhaps, before Dr. Cowel's time, were in, a
better position to divine the meaning of the names
of their contemporaries than we of the nineteenth
century can be.
DEANERIES OF CHRISTIANITY (5th S. i. 269.) —
Deans and deaneries are of various kinds, of which
a full account is given by Du Cange. Of the
one inquired about he says, " Decania. Decanorum.
Christianitatis jurisdictio et territorium " — the
jurisdiction and territory of the Deans of Chris-
tianity. And of these Deans of Christianity he
tells us, " Decanus Episcopi. Idem qui vulgo
Decanus ruralis, aut Christianitatis, in Legibus
Edwardi Confess.," c. 31 (Christianorum, in Charta
Stephani Episc. Torna., ann. 1192) — the Bishop's
Dean, commonly called the Eural Dean, or Dean
of Christianity, or Dean of Christians.
Of the origin of this kind of Deans and Dean-
eries, Canon Robertson tells us (History of Chris-
tian Church, vol. iii. p. 224, 8vo. 1866). Bishops
at length attempted to get over the annoyance
which they experienced from the archdeacons, by
erecting new courts of their own, on the principles
of the canon law, and by appointing persons with
the title of officials to preside in these, while they
employed " Vicars," or Rural Deans, to assist them
in their pastoral work.
Du Cange speaks of these Deans as existing in
France during the episcopate of Hincmar of Rheims ;
and we learn from Canon Robertson that, " in his
injunctions of 852, he found it necessary to de-
nounce the abuse (excess in their entertainments),
and to lay down rules for moderation, restricting
the allowance of the clergy on such occasions to
three cups for each." Their meetings were held
regularly on the first of the month, " semper de
Kalendis in Kalendis mensium," and were prin-
cipally taken up in hearing the confession of
penitents.
I doubt very much if any " Deaneries" after this
model exist in any English diocese at the present
day. EDMUND TEW, M.A.
The Decanus, or Dean, is to be distinguished
from the Diaconus, or Deacon. The Deans of
Christianity were also called " Rural Deans," and
"Deans of the Bishop"; and are not to be con-
founded with the Deans of the Cathedral and
Chapter. They possessed jurisdiction over tb>
clergy within the Rural Deanery, the limits of
which were generally well defined, and which,
in England at least, corresponded much with the
Hundred, which was composed of ten Tithings.
But it was a jurisdiction that was delegated to
them by the Bishop, of his general pastoral
authority ; and, in the next place, by the Arch-
deacon, of the jurisdiction which that office carried ;
and such jurisdictions the Rural Deans exercised
in courts which were called those of " Christianity"
(" Curia Christianitatis "). Prof. Cosmo Innes, of
Edinburgh, who has thus, in effect, spoken from a
Scottish stand-point, adds, " I do not find that the
Rural Dean acted as a judge (without delegation ?),
or had any court of his own " (Scottish Legal Ant.,
5th S. I. MAT 16, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
393
p. 183). And altogether very similar views are
announced in Burn's Ecc. Law, to which reference
is made, and where the original institution and
object of Deaneries &c., are clearly and fully stated
(vide " Deans and Chapters," and " Of the Rural
Deans "). L.
The name occurs in Valor Ecclesiasticus. Curia
Christianitatis is the church in qua servantur
leges Christi, in distinction to the king's court,
where secular law holds (Lyndw. lib. ii. tit. 2).
The dean of Christianity was the urban dean at
Canterbury in 1257, and used this title on his seal,
"decanus Christi civitatis Cant." In Thorn's
Chron., 1293, we read of "Decanus Christianitatis
Cant." The bishop's court is a court Christian
(see Selden, in his notes on Eadmer), and the
bishop's official bore the name of dean of Chris-
tianity. MACKENZIE E. C. WALCOTT.
P.S.— The Eev. J. H. Blunt writes to me that
he has an attested copy of a Papal brief with
Kichard Poore's seal. The legend is " Te Ricarde
rego, Trinus et Unus Ego." There is no trace of a
sword, but the right hand is in benediction. The
English Compendium, 1753, shows our Lord with
a royal crown and rays of glory about His head.
Bp. Poore sat at Chichester 1215-17.
WELSH TESTAMENT (5th S. i. 9, 173, 256.)— If
the question is of sufficient general interest, per-
haps room may be found for the following remarks.
M. H. R. has misunderstood the passage he refers
to. The Welsh "mo" is a common contraction
for " dim o " = none of, and the 'r = the definite
article. " Mo'r " has, therefore, nothing whatever
to do with the English word more. The Welsh
language, like the Greek, allows two negatives.
The following literal translation removes the
apparent variance —
"Nid oes ganddynt mo'r gwin,"
Not is with-them none-of-the wine,
which is equivalent to " they have no wine."
In Hebrews xii. 2 all the Welsh translations
differ from the English and agree with the Greek.
' Pen Tywysog" is a literal translation of apx^yos.
" Pen" = head, chief ; and " Tywysog " = prince,
leader, from "tywys," to lead. The English
" author " is taken from the Vulgate.
T. C. UNNONE.
M. H. R. does not seem to me to give quite the
correct value to the words in the English and
Welsh translations of the passage which he cites
from S. John ii. 3. " When they wanted wine,"
though capable of an interpretation consistent with
the idea " that no wine had been provided," does
not by any means necessarily imply it. The words
naturally lead to the inference, not that wine was
wished for, but that it was wanting, had become a
want, which is only another way of saying what is
said with perhaps less ambiguity in Welsh, " and
when the wine failed.'1 Nor does " they have no
wine " imply that they had not had wine, any more
than " Nid oes ganddynt mo'r gwin " implies that
they had. M. H. R. can scarcely suppose that the
Welsh contraction mo'r is the equivalent of the
English more ; and yet, by italicizing both, he
seems to suggest as much. The Welsh mo has a
negative force, like pas, point, rien in French ;
and the sentence " Nid oes ganddynt mo'r gwin "
is more closely represented in French by " Hs n'ont
pas (or point) de vin," than by " Us n'ont plus de
vin," as in the usual version, Welsh, like French,
admitting of what is called the double negative.
SIGMA.
ELECTION OF REPRESENTATIVE PEERS or SCOT-
LAND (5th S. i. 302.) — Mr. Fulton is only claiming
to be Earl of Eglinton ; he has not established his
claim, and, until he has established it, he certainly
can have no right to vote. How can a mere claim,
however good, entitle him to vote ? The section
of the Act quoted itself declares it. His right
must first be " established, and the same be notified
to the Lord Clerk, by order of the Lords." Then,
during his life, no other claimant shall vote till
otherwise directed by the Lords, i. e. till they find
a right in some other claimant. But W. M. ap-
pears to think that the Peers present at the election
should be saddled with the business of protesting
against the vote of every man who sets up as a
claimant and voter. H. T.
A ROMAN CATHOLIC VISITATION IN 1709 (5th
S. i. 86.) — As I contributed to about one (the
latter) half — from Elizabeth's time — of all the copies
and abstracts of wills, deeds, and other documents,
forming part of a History of Samlesbury Hall,
I have taken considerable interest in MR. LEE'S
note of the letter of " Jo : Holme." But as I am
further interested in anything relating to the family
of these Holmes, of Blackburn (of which several
were successively vicars during the last century),
I should esteem it a favour if MR. LEE would kindly
describe the remaining quarterings on the seal
he refers to as being still on the letter. The first
quarter is for Holme, but there were two or three
families (all, I believe, originally springing from
the same stock) in Lancashire, and an entirely
distinct family in Cheshire, all bearing similar
arms to those on the seal, except, one who bore
another coat — a lion rampant. " Mr. Walmsley,"
of Samlesbury " Lower Hall," was a descendant of
the judge of that name. The Roman Catholics
were very strong in that neighbourhood, as they
still are in all mid-Lancashire, which includes the
country of the Sherbornes of Stonyhurst Hall, now
the Roman College. On the restoration, a few
years ago, of Samlesbury Hall, by the gentleman
who purchased it, some six or seven coffins, or the
remains of coffins, of blackened oak, containing as
394
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5th S. I. MAY 16, '74.
many skeletons, were dug up in the garden in the
front of the house, and are supposed to have been
interments of priests, or Komish members of the
family of the Southworths, who were then, and
had been for many centuries, lords of a moiety of
Samlesbury, and who refused to bury, after the
persecution of their ancestor, Sir John Southworth,
by Queen Elizabeth, in their old ground of Samles-
bury Chapel. H. T.
SHERLOCK ARMS (5th S. i. 288.)— The first wife
of Sir Eichard Shee of Kilkenny, Kt., was
Margaret Sherlock, and her arms are impaled with
those of Shee in a tablet sculptured on an alms-
house erected by him in Kilkenny, A.D. 1582, as
follows : per pale argent and azure, two fleur-de-lys
counterchanged. JAMES GRAVES.
In the Transactions of the Kilkenny Archaeo-
logical Society, for 1849, 1 vol., p. 181, the arms
of Sherlock are given as " per pale argent and
azure, 2 fleur-de-lis counterchanged," in the latter
part of the sixteenth century. In St. Patrick's
Cathedral, Cashel, there is a mural tablet inscribed
with the Sherlock arms, viz., " a chevron charged
with 3 escallops between a pelican in piety, in chief,
and the same in base." Date 1639.
B. W. ADAMS, D.D.
Cloghran Rectory, co. Dublin.
The arms of this family will be found inverted on
the monuments of the Shee or O'Shee family in
Kilkenny. S.
" How TO DEAL WITH A CUCUMBER " (5th S. i.
327.) — Gay, in the Beggar's Opera, may be the
original rhymer on the subject : —
" Our Polly is a sad slut, nor heeds what we have taught
her,
I wonder any man alive will ever rear a daughter ;
For she must have both hoods and gowns, and hoops
to swell her pride,
With scarfs and stays, and gloves and lace, and she '11
have men beside ;
And when she 's drest with care and cost, all tempting,
fine and gay,
As men should serve a cucumber, she flings herself
away."
GEORGE ELLIS.
FREEMASONRY IN CANTERBURY CATHEDRAL
(5th S. i. 328.) — Considering that this venerable
fabric is considerably older than the institution of
Freemasonry, I cannot myself regard the fact
asserted as " interesting," for it rests on a trans-
posed chronology. Geometrical signs and emblems
may be seen everywhere, just as heraldic charges
are to be found in universal nature. The higher
orders of Freemasonry (as all candid and ordinarily
educated members are well aware) are of recent
invention, and their symbols were not rnasonically
co-existent with such old edifices, but are derived
from them, and from other similar sources. These
symbols are, or should be, used, not for purposes
affecting the integrity (so to speak) of historical
chronology, but in order to protect the institution
and its esoteric practical advantages from vulgar
intrusion. SS.
THE FAROE ISLANDS (5th S. i. 329.)— At the
close of the last century, this little group afforded
a convenient depot for contraband traffic. Kegular
establishments existed for goods intended to be
conveyed to England ; and under this state of
affairs the inhabitants flourished greatly, until the
destruction of the Dutch and Danish East India
trade dealt the final blow to the smuggling.
In 1808, Captain Baugh was sent in command
of the " Clio," sloop of war, to put a stop to
privateering in Faroe, where he destroyed the fort
of Thorshavn, which is the capital of Stromoe and
the principal town in the group.
J. DEVENISH HOPPUS.
There is a very interesting account of a visit to
these islands in Jest and Earnest, by Dr. Dasent,
vol. i., published in 1873. W. E. BUCKLEY.
JOHN, LORD WELLS (5th S. i. 329.) — Arms, or, a
lion rampant, double queued sable. Burke's Ex-
tinct Peerage, p. 572.
CHARLES F. S. WARREN, M.A.
"THE TESTAMENTS OF THE TWELVE PATRI-
ARCHS " (5th S. i. 308.) — This apocryphal work
was probably written by a converted Jew, about
the end of the first century of the Christian Era.,
or at the commencement of the second. It must
have existed anterior to the time of Origenus,
125 A.D., for it is cited by him in his fifteenth
homily on Joshua as not forming a portion of the
canonical writings. The homily must have ap-
peared subsequent to the year 70 A.D., seeing that
it mentions St. Paul, the destruction of the Temple,
and the persecution of the Jews. Grabe conjec-
tures that the Testaments of the Twelve Patriarchs
was known to Tertullianus. These Testaments, so
long unknown to the learned men of Europe, were
eventually discovered by the Greeks. Robert
Grossetete, Bishop of Lincoln, became acquainted
with them by means of a clergyman, named
John of Basingestker, who had studied at
Athens. The latter brought over to England
a Greek copy of them, which he translated into
Latin, assisted by Nicholas, Vicar of Datchot,
Chaplain in the Abbey of St. Albans, who
was a Greek by birth. This Latin version ap-
peared in 1242, and passed through many editions.
A portion of it was translated into French in 1555,
and the whole work was published in French by
J. Mase, in 1713 and 1743, with notes. A. Gilby
translated the Greek version into English, the last
edition of which was published at Bristol in 1813.
Grabe has inserted the Greek version in his Spici-
5th S. I. MAY 16, '74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
395
legium Patrum, v. i., p. 129, and it has been
reproduced in the Codex Pseudepigraphus Vet.
Test, of Fabricius, tome i., p. 519-748, with notes.
C. J. Nitzsch published a dissertation upon it in
1810.
The Testaments of the Twelve Patriarchs are so
called because they are the dying speeches of the
twelve sons of Jacob. The author gives various
particulars concerning the life and death of the
Patriarchs, and he makes them prophesy and
enunciate suitable precepts. He speaks of the
ruin of Jerusalem, the advent of Christ, various
events in His life, and of the writings of the Evan-
gelists, in a manner which leaves no reasonable doubt
that he was a Christian. That he was of Jewish, and
not pagan, origin may be inferred from the large
number of Jewish traditions mentioned by him.
B. L. M.
A very excellent edition of the Greek text, with
a most valuable introduction, was published by
Eobert Sinker, M.A., — The Testaments of the XII.
Patriarchs : an Attempt to Estimate their Historic
and Dogmatic Worth, Cambridge, 1869. It may
interest your correspondent to know that the work
is considered authentic, and of equal authority
with canonical Scripture, by the Muggletonian
sect. An edition of Arthur Golding's English
version was published under their auspices, London,
1837.
V.H.LL.LC.I.V.
MR. BLENKINSOPP had better refer to Mr.
Sinker's prize essay on this work, Cambridge,
1869, and to his translation and preface in Clark's
Ante-Nicene Library. But to quote shortly the
answers to MR. BLENKINSOPP'S queries, they are
these : 1. The author is unknown : there is little
doubt that he was a converted Jew. 2. The
writing is to be placed in a period ranging from
late in the first century to the revolt of Bar-Cochba.
CHARLES F. S. WARREN, M.A.
[See " N. & Q.," 2nd S. vi. 88, 173, 212, 276, 351, 489;
4lh S. ix. 486, 544.]
THE ARCHBISHOP OF PHILIPPOLI, 1701 (5th S.
i. 307.)— HERMANVILLE will find some information
on this and kindred subjects in The Orthodox and
the Nonjurors, by Rev. G. Williams, Rivingtons ;
also in the Union Review, vols. i. and ii., Hayes.
E. L. BLENKINSOPP.
ANNA TANAQUIL FABRI FILIA (5th S. i. 328.) —
This lady was the celebrated Madame Dacier, an
account of whom will be found, under her married
name, in all Biographical Dictionaries. She was
the daughter of a scholar only less eminent than
herself, Tanneguy le Fevre, who, according to the
fashion of the times, gave a Latin form to his
name, and styled himself Tanaquil Faber. Her
edition of Aurelius Victor, " in usurn Delphini,"
appeared in 1681, two years before her marriage
with Dacier, a marriage which the wits of the time
called the wedding of Latin and Greek.
RICHARD C. CHRISTIE.
WONDERFUL AUTOMATA (5th S. i. 306.) — The
so-called automaton chess-player was first intro-
duced into England by Wolffgang de Kempelen,
its inventor, in 1783. It was again brought into
this country in 1819, by Mr. Maelzel. In 1784 an
anonymous pamphlet was published by Stockdale,
entitled The Speaking Figure, and the Automaton
Chess-player, Exposed and Detected, in which it
was suggested that a living player was concealed
in the chest on which the board was placed. On
its second appearance in England a pamphlet to
the like effect was published byHatchard, in 1819,
" Observations on the Automaton Chess-player, now
Exhibited in London, at 4, Spring Gardens : by
an Oxford Graduate." But a complete exposure
of the deception was given in a pamphlet published
by Booth, London, 1821, with this title — " An
Attempt to Analyze the Automaton Chess-player of
Mr. De Kempelen. With an Easy Method of
imitating the Movements of that celebrated Figure.
Illustrated by Original Drawings." The author of
this was the Rev. Robert Willis, the widely-known
Jacksonian Professor, of Cambridge ; and he has
satisfactorily shown that the mechanism is only a
stratagem to distract the attention and mislead the
judgment of the spectators, whilst the play is really
carried on by a concealed human agent. E. V.
" THE MIND SHALL BANQUET," &C. (4th S. xii.
478.) — Love's Labours Lost, Act i. sc. 1.
J. MANUEL.
SHADDONGATE (5th S. i. 328.)— The first syllable
of this word is evidently from the Frankisn chad
= war ; Celtic, cath = battle. The " don" is pro-
bably A.S. dun — a hill ; so that the meaning is
the " Wargate on the hill " (see " Etymology of
Harrowgate," " N. & Q.," vol. ix.).
C. CHATTOCK, F.R.H.S.
Castle Bromwich.
" A HEAVY BLOW AND GREAT DISCOURAGE-
MENT" (5th S. i. 369.)— Lord Melbourne, when
speaking in defence of the celebrated appropriation
clause in the Irish Tithe Bill, inadvertently ad-
mitted that it was " a heavy blow and great dis-
couragement " to Protestantism, or the Protestant
Church, I forget which. The phrase is occasionally
revived in Parliamentary speeches and political
literature. C. Ross.
LATIN SIGNBOARDS (5th S. i. 208.) — In the
High Street, Winchester, is a hotel called the
" Black Swan," which has the motto " Rara avis
in terris " (Juvenal) over the door.
WICCAMICUS.
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5th S. I. MAY 16, 74.
" MASK " (5th S. i. 50, 373.)— Years ago I picked
up at a bookstall a copy of a book by Mask, which
I think was called First Class Politicians, though
this may have been a subsidiary title. The brilliant
character-sketching and masterly style impressed
me greatly. I know Random, Recollections, and
other works by Mr. Grant, and the styles of the
two writers seem to me as far apart as those of
Junius and Sir Philip Francis. Some one told me
at the time that the sketches had been first pub-
lished in the Morning Chronicle, One phrase in
the portrait of Brougham remains in my memory :
" He talks Greek fire." MORTIMER COLLINS.
Knowl Hill, Berks.
THE WATERLOO AND PENINSULAR MEDALS (5th
S. i. 47, 98, 136, 217, 235, 336, 378.)— If MR.
DILKE will extend his inquiries, he will find the
fact to be as stated by me. A letter addressed
to the Adjutant-General, Horse Guards, London,
would remove his doubts.
MR. DILKE instances the Medical Department
as one in which there " will not be found one with
a Waterloo Medal " ; but if he will look into any of
the older Army Lists, — or even into that for 1870,
pp. 578, 579, — he will there find the honoured
names of still surviving Deputy-Inspectors-Gene-
ral, Surgeon-Majors, Surgeons, and Assistant-Sur-
geons, who received not only the Waterloo Medal,
but also the silver " War Medal," with from one
to ten clasps, for services in the Peninsula.
The Waterloo Medal worn by the late Surgeon
D. M'Dearmid, of the 2nd Batt. 73rd Regiment,—
a medical officer of some repute, — is in the collec-
tion of Naval and Military Medals of my friend
Captain Cleghorn, Weens House, Hawick.
The distribution of medals was always general
in the army of the late H. E. I. Company, but not
in the Royal Army until 1815-16. Since that
date the practice has been followed on all oc-
casions for which a medal has been granted. The
originator of the principle, which has now become
a rule, was the great Duke himself. In the Army
List for January, 1819, there are the names of
seventy-two medical officers, — regimental and staff,
— who were honoured with the Waterloo medal.
J. W. FLEMING.
Brighton.
MARSHAL NET (5th S. i. 327, 375.)— I have
recently visited Pere la Chaise, and the following
is my recollection of the tomb of Marshal Ney : —
The grave is surrounded by a common railing ;
inside there is a border planted with shrubs, then
a narrow path, and in the centre an oval bed for
flowers immediately over the entrance to the tomb.
Under the gateway to this enclosure is a piece of
stone like a step, and on this some one has
scratched, in a very rude manner, with a penknife
or other instrument, the word Ney.
There is no mystery about the tomb ; our con-
ductor gave us each a sprig off one of the shrubs
as a souvenir. As he showed us the name he
observed, " Some one, you see, has been more
generous than were the French." ETTY.
Paris.
SHORT-HAND WRITING (5th S. i. 126, 196.) —
Reporters who use Pitman's phonography, one
distinguishing feature of which is the use of both
thin and thick strokes, find that such a combina-
tion does not at all interfere with the legibility of
the writing. I can read pencil notes written in
phonography ten or a dozen years ago with the
same ease and accuracy that I can read a page of
ordinary manuscript, and the same is the experience
of hundreds of others who have, like myself, been
actively connected with the press. Where light
strokes, or strokes of a uniform thickness, only are
used, compound signs have to be introduced, and,
as a consequence, the process of forming the out-
lines is more complicated. " Systems " of short-
hand have been invented without number during
the past 250 years, but of the 120 or so enumerated
by Mr. Pitman, in his History of Shorthand, only
some four or five have been used to any great
extent. No system has ever attained anything
like the popularity of phonography, and, as I have
said of it, thin and thick strokes constitute a dis-
tinguishing, and, I might almost add, unique fea-
ture. ALEXANDER PATERSON.
Barnsley.
SIR PHILIP SIDNEY'S "ARCADIA" (5th S. i. 269,
353.) — Mr. J. Hain Friswell has recently edited
an abridged and modernized text of the Arcadia
(Sampson Low & Co.). It is a sorry substitute for
the folio, especially in its uncritical and purblind
omission of the matterful verse, which only serene
ignorance undervalues. A. B. G.
Blackburn.
" WARLOCK " (5th S. i. 129, 211.)— Dr. Johnson,
on the authority of a Mr. Wise, gives, " Icelandic
vard-loolcr, a charm ; Saxon, werlog, an evil spirit."
I find no such words either in Haldorsen or Bos-
worth. The word may be derived from wer, vir,
homo, loga, mendax, fallax (G., lage, insidiaj).
Conf. werewolf, sorcerer, lit. wolf man (" homo in
lupum mutatus, non lupus homini infestus"
Wachter). Junius says of the word " Warlock " : —
" AVarlock, Scoticum vocabulum ab Islandis, ut videtur,
petitum, quibus vardloJcr, teste Verelio, designat Carmen
quoddam magicum, quo concinne cantato, invitantur
mali genii ad indicandum eventura. Nescio tamen an
rectius referri pessit ad A.S. vcerlogan, Al. uuarlogan,
hypocrite, q.d, qui veritatem fuco obducunt; componitur
a uuar, verum, et leogan, fallere, mentiri."
Jamieson, who gives a long note on " Warlock,"
says Sibb. (Sibbald 1) views warlo as synonymous
with this term, and Jamieson renders warlo "a
term used to denote a wicked person."
E. S. CHARNOCK.
Gray's Inn.
5th S. I. MAY 16, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
397
This word is no doubt derived from the Saxon
Wwr-loga, -which means a belier or breaker of his
agreement or pledge (see Bosworth's Anglo-Saxon
Dictionary}. Dr. Brewer considers it to mean " a
wandering evil spirit," or one who breaks his
word, a deceiver. Satan is called in Scripture
"the father of lies," the arch warlock. Other
writers take it to mean a wizard. Dr. Jamieson
thinks it has a strong mark of affinity to the
" Is. Vardlok-l, an incantation." Dryden renders
it thus in speaking of JEneas, " He was no warluck,
as the Scots commonly call such men, who they
say are iron free or lead free." W. WINTERS.
Waltham Abbey.
In Anglo-Saxon there are two words wcer ; one
a noun, meaning caution, warranty, pledge (O.H.
Germ, wdra, Icel. vdr) ; the other an adjective,
meaning wary, cautious, cunning. From the former
we get A.-Sax. wcer-loga, a belier or breaker of
his pledge (A.-Sax. loga = a liar) ; O.L. Germ.
wdrlogo; from this comes the 0. Eng. warloiv, an
oath-breaker or wicked person. In L. Scot, we have
warlo with the same meaning, the word being also
used as an adjective meaning evil in disposition.
Warlock is undoubtedly the same word, though
Jamieson leaves us in doubt. He gives, for the
meaning of warlock, a wizard, a man who is sup-
posed to be in compact with the devil. The
Icel. vardlok-r (=a magical song for calling up
spirits) is connected with this in meaning. The
L. Scot, warlot, a varlet, from the A.-Sax. ivcer-lot
(crafty, deceit), is another kindred word. Lastly,
we have in Old Eng. two other words, slightly
connected with the foregoing in meaning, and spelt
in the same way. Warlok — a herb, commonly
mustard ; and warlok = a fetyr lok, a fetter-lock.
The lok, or lock, in the former is the same as lick,
or leek = medicinal herb, as in hemlock, garlick,
&c. ; in the latter lok = a fastening ; A.-Sax. loc,
Icel. lok. In both cases the war comes from a
derivative of wcer, viz., A.-Sax. wcerian or iverian
= to take care of, to look after, protect. In the
first it has the sense of curing ; in the second the
literal one of securing, as in the Dutch waeren, or
waerdcn, to guard. ' H. COURTHOPE BOWEN.
LIFE AND OPINIONS OF PADRE SARPI (5th S. i.
184, 223, 243, 315.)— MR. E. N. JAMES does not
seem to be aware that the Italian work from which
he abridges the life of Father Paul is merely one
of the editions (1658) of the common and well-
known biography by Father Fulgentio, of which
I have a previous impression, published in 1646,
and which has been frequently epitomized and
translated into different languages. Before the
date of the Italian edition referred to by him, it
had been translated into English. I subjoin the
title of the book: —
" The Life of the most learned Father Paul of the
Order of the Servic, Councellour of State of the most
Serene Republicke of Venice and Authour of the Counsell
of Trent. Translated out of Italian by a person of
Quality. London. Printed for Humphrey Moseley and
Richard Martin, and are to be sold at their Shoppes in
St. Paul's Church Yard and in St. Dunstan's Church
Yard. 1651." 211pp.
Prefixed is a fine portrait of Father Paul by Lom-
bard. The translator observes, in his Address to
the Reader : —
" Thou art here presented in English with what hath
been often printed and reprinted in a forraine nation,
A relation of the Life and death of the famous Frier
Father Paul, of whose incomparable knowledge and
prudence there needs no other testimony than that the
wise state of Venice took him for their oracle. I may say
of him as 'twas said of Adryanus Turnebus, that lie not
only knew more than others, but what he knew he knew
better (he knowing by causes, by definitions, by relations
and practise) for as he that hath been twice or thrice in
a man's company may be said to know him, yet he that
knows him by his parentage from his youth and education,
even to his age and death, may say he knowes him.
better. And so indeed the faithful relatour of his Life
may be truly said to have known the Father; who to the
world was like the centre to the circle that drawes lines
to itself from all parts undique et undiquaque."
The name of the translator does not appear.
JAS. CROSSLET.
" BLODIUS ": " BLUE" (5th S. i. 167, 233, 353.)—
In reference to the use of " blue " (words or things),
I may perhaps be allowed to state that, not only
in Spain and Italy, but in France, and all Roman
Catholic countries, sky-blue is a colour consecrated
to the Virgin Mary. It is not rare to see children
always dressed in blue until the age of seven,
because they have been devoted to Mary by their
parents, with the belief of obtaining the patronage
of the mother of Christ : this custom, I think,
could be traced back very far. The numerous
societies of girls known as Congregations de la,
Vierge have for badge a large blue ribbon, which
the members wear across their breasts. On the
15th of August, the day of the Assumption of the
Virgin (Assomption de la Vierge), devout people
suspend in front of their houses blue flags and
oriflammes, with pious inscriptions, in the honour
of Mary. It is perhaps worth noticing that, during
Napoleon III.'s reign, as the same day was also
the day of the sovereign, some persons, and es-
pecially the Legitimists, or partisans of the Comte
de Chambord (Henri V.), used to take the oppor-
tunity of protesting against the Empire, and
showing their feelings for God and the king by
unfurling a number of blue banners, exclusive of
the tri-coloured flag. HENRI GAUSSERON.
Ayr Academy.
SIR RALPH COBHAM (5th S. i. 208, 294.)— I can
only use my best endeavours not to disappoint
MR. WARREN'S complimentary expectations. The
supposition that Mary, Countess of Norfolk, was
the widow of William de Braose, involves other
and yet greater absurdities than those he has sug-
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[5lh S. I. MAY 16, 74.
gested. Mary, Countess of Norfolk, was a mother
in 1325-6, and died in 1362. The date of her
birth may be not unfairly assumed to be 1300, or
thereabouts. But if she were identical with that
Mary de Braose who was William's widow, it must
further be allowed that —
1. She was the wife of a man whose father died
in 1231, and who therefore was fully sixty-nine
years older than herself.
2. Her eldest son had a daughter (Alina de
Mowbray), who married in 1298, before his mother
was born.
3. Her third son died in 1294, before her birth,
leaving his son Giles aged at least twenty.
4. Her grandson Thomas was born the same
year with herself.
5. She was set. thirty-nine when her great-
grandson was born.
Perhaps I spoke too hastily when I said she was
the daughter of William and Mary de Braose, for
it is equally probable that she was their grand-
daughter. But that she was a Braose by birth,
and not marriage, I have felt confident ever since
I met with one of her charters, in which (may her
memory be blessed for it !) she deliberately de-
scribes herself as " Dame Marie de Breuse." That
she should assume her own maiden name was usual
and natural ; but that, when married to her third
husband, and he a Prince of the Blood, she should
continue to call herself by the name of her first
husband, is contrary to all custom and analogy.
Beside all this, there are two separate Inquisitions
extant for these two Marys, the elder of whom
(Lady de Braose) died in 1325-6, the younger
(Countess of Norfolk) in 1362.
HERMENTRTJDE.
In my previous paper on this topic, Joan de
Septvans should be Joan Septvaus.
NOTES ON BOOKS, &c.
The Seven Ages of a Village Pauper. By George C. T
Hartley. (Chapman &. Hall.)
THE author states in his Preface the startling and painful
fact, that "a million of our people are at this moment
actual paupers. One in every twenty of us is now
dependent, as a matter of course, on the parish dole or
the misery of alms," and then asks, " Who is to blame
for this 1 " After carefully reading Mr. Bartley's most
interesting book (the facts stated are capable of repro-
duction throughout the length and breadth of the land),
we have no hesitation in adopting his conclusion that
whilst not the sole cause of pauperism, " the greatesi
pauperizer is the Poor Law." But this is not all
To indiscriminate alms-giving and the administration
of public charities can be traced no small portion o
the present mischief. These two exponents of Christian
charity must, therefore, be directed and guided aright i
we would make them the source of good and not of evil,
—if we would create a proper sense of self-respect, am
not a willingness to be patronized, amongst those whose
advantage they are intended to promote, — if we would
discourage hypocrisy, dependence, and waste, and en
courage truth, self-reliance, and thrift, — if, in short, the
prevention of pauperism, as Mr. Bartley puts it, and not
nerely its relief when it has arisen, is ever to be our aim.
To no better purpose can alms be applied than in affording
imely aidtoafamily when, say, the father, a hard-working
>rovident man, is stricken with illness, for then not only
s he spared the pain and misery of debt, but pauperism,
;oo often the product of debt thus unavoidably incurred,
s prevented. With regard to hospitals, there can be no
question that a very large proportion of those who obtain
relief gratis could well afford to pay something for it,
and that if the payment of this something, however
small, were insisted on when possible, the effect would
36 excellent; morally, because then the relief provided
would be appreciated (which, under the existing regime,
is far from being always the case); and practically, be-
cause funds would be in hand towards securing more
fficient appliances and a larger staff of officials than can
now be obtained. Mr. Bartley's book could hardly have
appeared at a more opportune time than the present, and
we heartily commend it to general consideration.
A Description of Mr. Biirges's Models for the Adornment
of St. Paul's, now exhibited at the Royal Academy.
(Stanford.)
IT has been the dearest wish of my heart .... that,
instead of the cold, dull, unedifying, unseemly appearance
of the interior, the Cathedral should be made within
worthy of its exterior grandeur and beauty." These
words were written by Dean Milman in 1858 ; but what
has since been done in fulfilment of the earnest aspira-
tions of that great man— one who proved himself a
leader of these capable of appreciating Wren's unsur-
passed and unsurpassable genius ] We cannot be accused
of undue severity in asserting that disastrous consequences
have attended almost every alteration of the interior of
the Cathedral from the state in which Wren left it.
For these consequences only the irresponsibility of com-
mittees can in any way be answerable. An examination,
however, of Mr. Burges's models, by the aid of this ex-
cellent ''Description," written with a clearness and
simplicity that fully enable it to accomplish its object
of facilitating such examination, induces us to entertain
a hope that at last we have a basis on which operations,
already too long deferred, may be at once commenced.
One great merit in Mr. Burges's proposals is that they
are totally free from those great structural alterations
which his bitterest opponents are credited as contem-
plating. It cannot be affirming too much to say that,
were all personal prejudice laid aside, and the matter
placed with full confidence in the hands of _two such
men as Mr. Penrose, the most learned classicist, and
Mr. Surges, the greatest master in the art of applying
colour now living, success must be the result. As on
hope the fulfilment of "the dearest wish" of a heart
is made to rest, so surely does despair succeed that
hope if no prospect be held out that its object will be
realized within a reasonable period of time. If, then,
with regard to the adornment of St. Paul's, the public
have begun to despair of its ever being accomplished,
we would earnestly urge the Dean and Chapter to do
all in their power to prevent a third and possible state
of mind from being entered upon — indifference.
The Tear-Book of Facts in Science and Art: exhibiting
the most Important Discoveries and Improvements of
the Past Year. By John Timbs. (Lockwood & Co.)
As has been already said, this compilation of facts is too
well known to require any special notice. To the pre-
sent volume is prefixed a portrait and life of Professor
Tyndall. The obituary notices are most useful; but
may we suggest that, as "the past year" is only con-
cerned, 1873, and not 1874, should appear on the cover 1
5th S. I. MAY 16, '74 ]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
399
A Child's First Latin Book. By Theophilus D. Hall,
M.A. (Murray.)
THE object of this little book is twofold : to lead step by
step the young beginner to the acquirement of the pro-
nunciation of Latin as set forth lately by the two Pro-
fessors at Oxford and Cambridge, and to give an easier
and fuller praxis of the nouns, adjectives, and pronouns,
than is to be found in other grammars. Mr. Hall has
effected his object, and with simplicity of treatment ;
moreover, by not worrying a child with abstruse points
of grammar, but introducing him as early as possible to
easy pieces of translation, he has succeeded in imparting
interest to the subject.
Registrum Palatinum Dunelmeiise. The Register of
Richard de Kellawe, Lord Palatine and Bishop of
Durham, 1314-1316. Edited by Sir Thomas Duffus
Hardy. Vol. II. (Longman & Co.)
IN this second volume of the old Durham Register, there
are copies of about nine hundred documents, all of which
illustrate laws, manners, and customs of the time. Such
bishops as he of Durham were sovereign princes within
their sees. Every page of this volume affords proof of
this fact. To the vocabulary of surnames the last docu-
ment adds one, in the name of Emma Wastehose, a lady
who was not indisposed to maintain her rights and
privileges.
THE JEWS IN ENGLAND IN THE THIRTEENTH CENTURY.
— The following interesting details are (abridged) from
the last number of the Jewish World ; — " In the Public
Record Office in Fetter Lane hundreds of records are
extant, which detail a fearful amount of persecution
which our predecessors underwent. Among the appli-
ances brought into operation, first, we believe, by Richard
Cosur de Lion, was the establishment of a special tribunal
aimed against the Jews, over which presided certain jus-
ticiars, who went by the name of ' Justices of the Jews,'
and who met at Westminster for the purpose of recording
the monetary transactions of Jewish lenders, and of
settling all disputes arising out of the cyrographs or
shtarrs, by which name the obligations of Christians
were technically known. An extraordinary lengthy list
of pleas brought before the justiciars in the year 1220 is
preserved at the Record Office, and shows the vast extent
of the monetary transactions entered into between Jews
and Christians. In order to insure the recovery of the
revenues said to be due to the Exchequer arising out of
all this money lending, a system was inaugurated by
which no Jew could recover a debt, unless the obligations
of the debtor were duly registered in the coffer most
approximate to the dwellings of the parties concerned.
Twice a year, at Easter and Michaelmas, or at other times
indicated, debtor and creditor were ordered to appear
before the supervisors of accounts, and, as an instalment
of the debts was discharged, the Jew had no alternative
than to render to the monarch's deputy whatever sum he
might be mulcted of by way of tallage. The discharge
of such tallages was effected in a simple and primitive
way ; a small piece of wood, usually of hazel, was pro-
vided, and squared into shape. On both sides of this was
written in clear characters, and usually in crabbed me-
diaeval Latin, the full nature of the monetary obligation.
Across it were then made certain cuts, some very deep,
to indicate marks or pounds, and at the other end, thinner
cuts to express shillings and pence. The wood was then
split down the middle, the Exchequer retaining one part,
and the creditor holding the other. Of course they were
bound to tally one with the other. When the time came
for the settlement of accounts, the creditor produced his
tally, which was compared with the counterpart, and if
matters were all right, nothing further was said. AVhen
additional payments were made by the debtor, the Jew
paid his tallage as required, further notches being in-
dented on the counterparts, indicative of the amounts he
had paid, and this process was repeated till he had dis-
charged his liability in full. The best specimen of the
tally is one running to the following effect, the abbrevia-
tions for the sake of perspicuity being given at length : —
' Thomas Godesire debet Joscy de Kant, Judaso, xxx
solidos, reddendos medietatem ad festum Sancti Michaelis
anno gratiae M.C.C. vicesimo nono, et medietatem ad
festum Sancti Martini proximo sequentem, per cursum
cyrographum ; plegii, Andrew de Mikelgate et Ingram
Talbot.' The Joscy of Cant< rbury, although he flourishes
here in the year 1229, continued his money dealings for
several years subsequent to this date, for his name is
found as the principal representative of the city of York,
returned to the great ' Parliamentum Judaicum,' which
Henry III. summoned in 1241, with instructions and a
threat to provide him with money in his dire necessity.
Joscy is frequently alluded to in other records as the
' Jew of York,' and he was closely connected with the
famous Aaron of York in establishing a bank in that city,
being assisted by his two sons, Deulecresse and Jornin.
The firm lent money at the ordinary interest then cur-
rent, viz., twopence per pound per week, and many of
the bonds of persons indebted to them are still in existence,
one of which was brought to light about a year since by
the Rev. J. T. Fowler, M.A., of Durham University.
Hunter, who knew nothing of the above tally, mentions
in his History of Yorkshire that he had seen ' an instru-
ment by which one Thomas Godesire promises to pay
Joscy of Kent thirty shillings in moieties.' This is the
very bond to which the tally refers. Allusions are fre-
quently made to Joscy in various records of the time ; he
figures on the Fine Rolls in the year 1239, and is there
cited as ' Joceus frater Sampsonis de Kant ' — Joscy brother
of Samson of Canterbury. His dealings were enormous,
and his riches increased in proportion; there was scarcely
a noble family in England that was not indebted to him
for money favours. He appears to have been much re-
spected, and frequently offered himself as security for
any of his distressed nation that required his intervention
before the justiciars of the Jews. In this way, in the
year 1220, he became surety for one Amyot of Ponte-
fract, who was required to appear before the Barons of
the Jewish Exchequer at Westminster during Hilary
term."
"INTERMENT OF THE REMAINS OF JOHN TALBOT, FIHST
EARL OF SHREWSBURY, AT WHITCHURCH. — The re-inter-
ment of the remains of John Talbot, first Earl of
Shrewsbury, took place on Friday. Talbot's bones were
discovered in the lower recess in the south aisle of Whit-
church Parish Church, on the 9th ult. The bones were
then carefully taken from the coffin (which crumbled to
dust when touched) and removed to the vestry, where
for several days they were viewed by, not only the in-
habitants of the town, but by people from miles round
the county. The oaken coffin having been borne to the
sarcophagus, the rector, with some assistance, took the
bones from the oaken coffin and placed them in the stone
coffin. This proceeding occupied some time, and while
it was going on Mr. Bennett played Beethoven's March
on the Death of a Hero. The process of removing the
bones from one coffin to the other being concluded, the
rector read the remaining portion of the burial service.
At the head of the lid was a carved cross, and underneath
the simple painted inscription, ' Talbot, 1453. Re-in-
terred, 1874.' The canopy is in the early perpendicular
style, and when finished will be about twelve feet high.
The bones generally were remarkably well developed,
and had evidently belonged to a muscular man. The
two marble slabs— one placed in the porch, and the
other on the right of the wall of the church entrance—"
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[5th S. I. MAT 16, '74.
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" DR. FELL."— Dr. Fell, Dean of Christchurch (temp.
Charles II. and James II.), agreed to cancel a decree of
expulsion against Tom Brown, if that humourist could
translate, on the spot, Martial's epigram (i. 36) " Non
amo te, Sabidi," which he did, to the Dean's surprise, in
the well-known form, " I do not like thee, Dr. Fell ! "
But Martial himself was conversant with Catullus, as his
epigrams prove ; and in " Non amo te, Sabidi " there is
an echo from the "De Amore Suo" (Catull., Carm. 85)
of the words —
" Odi et amo. Quare id faciam, fortasse requiris,
Nescio : sed fieri sentio, et excrucior."
There is a well-known epigram by Leigh Hunt, which is
described as " from the French of Tabouret," and which
runs thus : —
"Abel fain would marry Mabel;
Well, it 's very wise of Abel.
But Mabel won't at all have Abel ;
Well, it 's wiser still of Mabel."
But Tabouret, like so many others, took his inspiration
from the great epigrammatist, who has the above epigram,
" with a difference " : —
" Nubere vis Frisco : non miror, Paula : sapisti.
Ducere te non vult Priscus ; et ille sapit."
ix. 6.
TRIPLEX. — The theory that Joan of Arc (or rather
Jeanne Dare) was never burnt at all is a very old one.
In the middle of the seventeenth century, Father Vignier
discovered at Metz a document which recorded a visit to
that city by the Maid, in i486, five years after the date
of her being burnt, in 1431 . Subsequently, Vignier dis-
covered the marriage contract of the Maid with Robert
des Armoises. In the middle of the last century, docu-
ments were discovered among the French archives, in
which record was made of money paid to the Maid of
Orleans in 1439, and of a " supplication," on the part of
her elder brothe^for money, in 1444, in which " suppli-
cation " his Bister's absence, but not her execution, is
alluded to. About twenty years ago, the subject was
again brought forward by M. 0. Delepierre (Doute
Historique) , and it has been noticed in "N. & Q." (2nd
' S. iii. 512, and 3rd S. ii. 46, 98, 155). In this matter, one
fact must not be lost sight of, namely, that .there were
several claimants who professed to be surviving Maids
of Orleans, and who found people who believed their
stories. The brothers of the "Maid" who was at Metz,
in 1436, swore to her identity ; but who can satisfy us
as to the identity of these so-called brothers]
LYRA. — Two explanations of the expression "sent to
Coventry " have been offered ; one, that the inhabitants
of Coventry were so averse from holding any corre-
spondence with the military quartered in the town (a
female became directly the object of town scandal who
had been known to speak to a man in a red coat) that the
latter were confined to the interchanges of the mess-room
(see The Beauties of England and Wales, vol. xv. part ii.);
the other (given by Hutton in his History of Birmingham,),
that the day after Charles I. had left Birmingham, in
1642, the Parliamentarians seized all messengers and sus-
pected persons, and sent them prisoners to Coventry.
Vide " N. & Q.," 1st S. vi. 318, 589.
K. M. (Greenwich).— We think you are mistaken ; for,
in the celebrated picture of the Last Supper, Judas is
represented as overturning the salt-cellar. See " N. & Q.,"
3rd S. vii. 282, 348, 367, 385. At the second reference
(348) will be found a full account of the incident, as de-
picted by the great painter, by our late valued corre-
spondent F. C. H. As to the popular superstition of
salt-spilling, see Sir Henry Ellis's edition of Brand's
Popular Antiquities, 1842, vol. iii., p. 82. In Italy very
little is thought of upsetting salt ; the dread there is to
spill oil.
E. H. " Only three Crowns." — This was the answer
given by Sir R. Walpole to Queen Caroline, who in-
quired what would be the cost of inclosing St. James's
Park, and making of it a private garden to the Palace.
In 1738 the newspapers say, " The Ring in Hyde Park
being quite disused by the quality and gentry, we hear
that the ground will be taken in for enlarging the Ken-
sington Gardens." The above answer is sometimes said
to refer to this last circumstance.
EBOR. — Music was accounted one of the four mathe-
matical arts which constituted the Quadrivium, or four-
fold way to knowledge. The Trivium consisted of
grammar, rhetoric, and logic. The whole comprised the
seven liberal sciences. It was said of Gilbert Crispin,
Abbot of Westminster, early in the twelfth century,
" Doctus quadrivio nee minus in trivio."
C. W. G. (Kendal).— In the 1785 edition of Johnson's
Dictionary, there is " ringleader [ring and leader], the
head of a riotous body," and Bacon and Addison only are
quoted. In Dr. Latham's edition, however, the above is
given as the secondary meaning, the first being "one who
leads the ring"; and the quotation from Barrow, re-
ferred to by Lord Coleridge, is cited.
The REV. EDMUND TEW, M. A., referring to " Lucretian
Notelets " (5th S. i. 362), reminds R. B. S. that MR. TEW
has already noted the striking parallel between the
passages from the De Remm NaturA, i. 1098-1102, and
the Tempest, Act iv. sc. 1. See 4th S. xi. 234.
F. S. PULLING (Oxford). — We must refer you to a note,
on the subject of your communication, which appeared
in the present volume of " N. & Q.," p. 199.
H. A. B. (Ashfield).— " Speed the plough " is in The
British Drama Illustrated (1864), vol. iv.
V. DE S. FOWKE (p. 140). — A correspondent writes
that the poet Shelley was intended.
S. H. P. — Make a direct application on the subject to
the Heralds' College.
PRINCE. — " Ite, missa est," — the concluding words.
J. M. A. — Apply to some jeweller.
G. R. — Rem judicatam, judicas.
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
401
LONDON, SATURDAY, MAT 23, 1874.
CONTENTS. — N» 21.
NOTES .-—Whitsuntide, 401— Shelley— Henry VIII. as a Poet,
403 — Shakspeariana — " Fiat justitia ruat ccelum," 404 —
Peculiar Spellings, &c. — Leoline : Christabel — Byron and Chal-
mers—Tea— Curses, 405— Roman Catholic Caution against
Praying to Images— Milton's " L' Allegro " — Lampedusa in
1690— Epitaph— Major-General St. Clair, 406.
QUERIES: — Turner's "Illustrated Shakspeare " — "Situate"
—Whittle-gate — Rev. Richard Gibson— Warrants for the
Execution of Charles I., 407— "Legends of Glenorchy" —
' ' The Glory of their Times," <fec. — " Quadragesimalis " — Legem
servare " — " Creator spirit" — Letters by " An Englishman " —
Edwards, of America— Milton — David Schomberg— Leafing
of the Oak before the Ash — " Antient "—The Prophecies of
Pastorini— Sir John Sowerby, Knt. — " How John Bull got
the Key of his own House," 403— Buckley, or Bulkley
Families — Bacon's "Essays" — Wise after the Event— Silver
Medal— Petitions ft» Parliament— Wood Family, 409. '
REPLIES:— Field Lore : Carr, &c., 409— Queen Anne's Indian
Chapel of the Onondagas — Newton's " Axiomata sive Leges
Motus "— " Infant Charity "— " Reginald Trevor," &c. , 413—
Maiden well, near Louth— The First Ear-ring — Rev. George
Arnet, A.M. — "That sanguine flower," 414— Plant Stained
•with Blood at the Crucifixion — Orontius Finoeus — Cente-
narian Newspapers— Flogging in Schools— "Plagal" — Mrs.
Elizabeth Polack, 415— Swainswick, Somerset— " Jerusalem
Conquistada " — Lucia Visconti, Countess of Kent— Supersti-
tion of Welsh Colliers— Double Returns to Parliament, 416 —
Buda— Col- in Col-Fox—" Realizing the Signs of Thought "
— The Sunflower — Royal Heads on Bells, 417— Oxberry's
"Dramatic Biography" — Peter Mew, Bishop of Bath and
Wells—" How they brought the Good News from Ghent to
Aix " — Bardolf of Wirmegay — Bar Sinister, 418 — Wine in
Smoke — Thomas Frye — Game of Stoball — John Froben — Sir
John Reresby's "Memoirs" — Bezique — Fuller's " Pisgah
Sight of Palestine" : Rancke-riders— George I. at Lydd, 419.
Notes on Books, &c.
WHITSUNTIDE.
The origin of the name of Whitsunday has been
warmly contested by various writers, and by several
in the columns of " N. & Q.," and it still seems to
be an undecided., question. At an early period
(No. 39, 1st S.) a correspondent, H. T. G., rejected
the old explanations deriving the term from the
white garments worn by those about to be bap-
tized ; — from the light of Heaven sent down to
enlighten the world; — from the white meat (milk of
their kine) bestowed by the rich on the poor ; — from
huict Sunday, the eighth after Easter ; — and from
Wied, or sacred Sunday. H. T. G. thinks the
clue to the origin of the name is to be found in
Brady's Clavis Calendaria, in which it is said that
the original name of the season of the year was
Wittentide, or the time of choosing the Wits, or
wise men, to the Wittenagemote. As wisdom and
knowledge were divinely imparted to the Apostles
on Whitsunday, it is suggested that the root of the
word may perhaps be found in the A.S. witan, to
know. At a later period, the following lines, from
Richard Rolle of Hampole (ob. 1358), quoted in
"N. & Q." (July 26, 1851), seemed to agree with
the above view: —
" This day, Witsonday is cald,
For wisdome and wit seuenfold
Was gouen to the Apostles on this day."
In the Second Series, MR. MACKENZIE WALCOTT
derived the name " Whiteson Day " from the Ger-
man Pfingsten= Pentecost. To this, objection was
aken by F. C. H., who ascribed the origin of the
name to " the appearance of the neophytes on that
Sunday, and during the Octave, in the church in
;he white garments which they had received at
their solemn baptism on the preceding Saturday,
ailed Whitsun Eve." Next, MR. DENTON quoted
Hearne's quotation from a book printed by Wynkin
de Worde, to the effect that " this day is called
Wytsonday, because the Holy Ghost brought wytte
and wysdome into Cristis disciples." With this
interpretation DR. ROCK fully agreed, and further
stated that " our Anglo-Saxon fathers had no word
[ike Witsonday .... but .... Pentecostes ....
and Witsontide, an English word, did not get into
use earlier than the twelfth or thirteenth century."
Baptism, and the use of white garments, according
to DR. ROCK, belonged more especially to Easter-
tide. Again, it has been shown that the compound
word is not Whit Sunday, but Whitsun or Whitson
Day. MR. E. H. KNOWLES quoted from one of the
beautiful homilies published by the Early English
Text Society the following passage, as " nearly de-
cisive of the etymology of the name " : — " When on
this day, that is, Pentecost and Witsunday in our
speech, there came suddenly a great sound from
Heaven, and filled all the upper room with fire. The
day of Pentecost, that is, our Wit Sunday." It was
subsequently observed by MR. E. S. DEWICK, that
before the Norman Conquest there was no other
name for the day than Pentecostes ; and he sug-
gested that " some word was brought over by Nor-
man ecclesiastics, which was rendered intelligible
to Saxon ears by being corrupted into the forms
White Sunday or Wit Sunday, under the influence
of the same law which changed the name of the
ship Bellerophon into Billy Ruffian." MR. DEWICK
believed that Robert of Gloucester was the first to
use the word Whitsun " in the form Wytesontyde,
and in the sixteenth century it occurs in Whitsun-
Week, Whitsun-Eve, Whitsun- Ale," &c. In a
review of Mr. Wedgwood's Dictionary of English
Etymology, the author was accounted to be in
error in deriving " Whitsunday " from " Dominica
in Albis " (first Sunday after Easter). The reviewer
adopted MR. MACKENZIE WALCOTT'S theory (which
MR. WALCOTT never abandoned), that the origin of
the word would be found in the German " Pfing-
sten." To conclude this etymological part of the
subject, the readers of " N. & Q." scarcely need to
be reminded that (in 4th S. xi. 437) the late
MR. COCKAYNE, under the signature Cxxxx**,
stated that the earliest known instance of the ex-
pression " Whitsun " is found, under A.D. 1067, in
that copy of the Saxon Chronicle which is printed
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[5th 8. 1. MAY 23, 74.
from MS. Cott. Tiberius, B. iv., " Hwitan Sunnan
dseg." MR. COCKAYNE, towards the close of his
learned article, remarked, " In rural districts, it is
de rigueur amongst the young women that they
appear on Whitsunday in bright summer dresses.
It appears possible, therefore, that a heathen, but
religious, custom prevailed in spring of asking for
a white clear summer sun, and that Whitsun Day
took its name from that observance."
With regard to Whitsunday customs, we have
learnt that some churches were strewn with rushes,
and budding twigs adorned the pews. MR. MAC-
KENZIE WALCOTT stated that " the custom was
preserved until a recent date in several City
churches." At St. Briaval's, Gloucestershire, after
service, little squares of bread and cheese used to
be flung from the gallery among the crowded,
scrambling, and noisy congregation below. Ob-
servance of this custom was supposed to preserve
the right of the poor to cut and carry away wood
on a certain 3,000 acres of coppice land in the
neighbourhood. The Whitsun holiday sports on
the Cotswold Hills were founded in the reign of
James I. (the very roughest of sports), not in honour
of the time, but because it was a holiday time,
which afforded opportunity for such sports. " All
the fun of the fair " was there ; and these sports
had not altogether died out in 1779. Whitsun-
tide fairs were, however, common. That at Green-
wich was always considered superior to the one at
Easter, and, at one period, it was a good deal
patronized by what Chesterfield called "the
quality." So it was in its last evil days, but it
was a very bad quality indeed. In various country
churches it was the custom to decorate the sacred
edifice with fresh green branches of the birch, —
" remains of the mediaeval festival observances,"
says Mr. P. E. Masey, among which, according to
Fosbroke, was the erecting " a tree at the church
door, where a banner was placed, and maidens
stood gathering contributions. An arbour, called
Eobin Hood's Bower, was also put up in the church-
yard." Fairs sprang out of this custom. MR. J.
MANUEL tells us that an unchartered Whitsun
Tryste Fair is still held annually on Whitsunbank
Hill, near Wooler, Northumberland.
The season has its proverbs and its weather-lore.
In Germany, the Pentecost proverb, " Ein Pfing-
sten auf dem Eise," is equivalent to " anno magno
Platonis," or " ad Grsecas Kalendas," or our " Next
Nevercometide." And " Pfingstrosen " = " Eosa
pseonia." In Ireland, an awkward and unlucky
fellow used 'to be called " A Whitsuntide fellow ;
he can't eat his breakfast without breaking his
plate." It appears to have been thought, at one
time, in Wales (in the seventeenth century), that
whatsoever any one asked of God on Whitsunday
morning, when the sun rose, was sure to be granted.
On this day, as on Easter Sunday, there seems to
have been an idea that the sun danced for joy.
In Huntingdonshire, as CUTHBERT BEDE has told
us, the weather on Holy Thursday is said to be
just the contrary of that on Whitsun Monday.
The weather-lore of Whitsuntide is well illus-
trated in the Eev. C. Swainson's Handbook of
Weather Folk-Lore. In England, a fair Whit-
sunday is supposed to bring plentiful harvests ; a
foul, — blasts, mildews, &c. In France, the wind
remains for six weeks wherever it happens to be
on Whitsun Eve, " pendant 1'eau be"nite." In the
Morbihan and He"rault, a stormy Whitsuntide is
much feared ; and if the strawberries are not ripe
there is much marvelling. In Italy, a rainy Whit-
suntide is considered damaging to the crops ; and
" Pentecostes pluvise nil boni signant," is a saying
of Bucelinus. The Germans take this season's rain
in another sense, and hold it to be profitable to the
vines, and to be productive of plenty at Christmas.
Returning to " N. & Q.," it is probably not for-
gotten that SIR JOHN MACLEAN once put on
record how, in looking over some parochial registers,
he had " found ' Pentecost ' very frequently used
as a Christian name, especially in the time of
Queen Elizabeth." But several letters in the col-
lection of Sir J. S. Trelawney show that the
above name was given to children at baptism as
late as the Georgian era. The letters in ques-
tion are from Pentecost Barker, in London, to
Harry Trelawney. The writer is described by Mr.
A. J. Horwood (in the first Eeport of the Eoyal
Commission on Historical Manuscripts, p. 51) as
" a purser in the Navy." In one letter, the purser
wonders that " no one had translated the Moyen de
Parvenir." In another, written 1757, Pentecost
remarks that " face painting declines at Court, but
gains ground in the City." In a third, the writer
says he has been told that " Mr. Manley, father to
Mrs. Manley, who made ' The Atalantis,' was the
author of The Turkish Spy "; but he has " since
heard that it was by Eobert L'Estrange." Mr.
Barker mentions that he had heard Orator Henley
abuse Gibson, Bishop of London, and speak of the
Prelate's Codex as being " as big and as useless as
a Church Bible." Barker also notices the dan-
gerous condition of the streets, from frost, snow,
hail, and rain, and he refers to the wooden bridges
raised by the poor, who thus earned an honest penny
by enabling wayfarers to cross on their planks, dry
shod, from one side of the street to the other.
Finally, this pleasant Pentecost, worthy purser,
with literary tastes, states a discovery that he has
made, on credible information, namely, that " Mr.
Sterne, one of the Prebendarys of York, is the
author of Tristram Shandy, and that the sermons,
said to be by Yorick, were by him " (Sterne).
It is a curious fact that the Moyen de Parvenir,
which Mr. Pentecost Barker seems to have admired
(the author was Beroalde de Verville), is the work
from which Dr. Ferrier thought Sterne borrowed
Shandy's repartee to Obadiah. Yorick is believed,
5th S. I. MAY 23, '74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
403
by the same authority, to have made great use of
Bouchet's scarce book, Les Series, in the compo-
sition of Tristram Shandy. If Pentecost, as a
Christian name, be still in use, it would be well
to make a note of it.
Finally, MR. COCKAYNE, in showing that the
•earliest known mention of "Whitsun" is under
the date 1067, has put on record a fact of im-
portance in the history of the word, provided that
the writer in the Saxon Chronicle were contem-
porary with the date and the incident he has
registered. ED.
SHELLEY.
I made my first acquaintance with Shelley's
poetry in a borrowed copy of the edition of 1839,
in four volumes, foolscap 8vo., edited by Mrs.
.Shelley. In the last volume of this edition, p. 166,
I came upon a poem, entitled To the Queen of My
Heart, which seemed to me to be exceedingly
Jovely. Some time after this I became the happy
possessor of a Shelley of my own. The edition I
purchased was that in one Volume, 8vo., published
in 1840. To my surprise and sorrow, I found, on
searching for my favourite, that it was not there.
The following passage in the postscript to the Pre-
face, p. xi, explained the reason of the omission : —
"It was suggested that the Poem ' To the Queen of
My Heart ' was falsely attributed to Shelley. I certainly
-find no trace of it among his papers, and, as those of his
intimate friends whom I have consulted never heard of
it, I omit it."
As far as I know, this poem has not appeared in
any subsequent edition. I enclose a transcript,
hoping that you will find room for it, and that
•some one will be able to tell me who was the
writer, if, in very truth, it be not by Shelley: —
" To the Queen of My Heart.
" Shall we roam, my love,
To the twilight grove,
Where the moon is rising bright 1
Oh, I '11 whisper there,
In the cool night-air,
What I dare not in broad day-light.
"I'll tell thee a part
Of the thoughts that start
To being when thou art nigh ;
And thy beauty, more bright
Than the stars' soft light,
Shall seem as a weft from the sky.
•"When the pale moon-beam
On tower and stream
Sheds a flood of silver sheen,
How I love to gaze
As the cold ray strays
O'er thy face, my heart's throned queen.
" Wilt thou roam with me
To the restless sea,
And linger upon the steep,
And list to the flow
Of the waves below,
How they toss and roar and leap '!
" These boiling waves,
And the storm that raves
At night o'er their foaming crest,
Resemble the strife
That from earliest life
The passions have waged in my breast.
" 0 come then and rove
To the sea or the grove
When the moon is shining bright,
And I '11 whisper there,
In the cool night air,
What I dare not in broad day-light."
ANON.
HENEY VIII. AS A POET.
That this pet of Mr. Froude's was a handsome
and accomplished man, all the chroniclers of his
time have recorded. It is also certain that the son
of the miser King could ride " the great horse "
with any knight of his Court, and drew as lusty a
shaft as even the " Duke of Shoreditch " himself.
In the lists, his flatterers loudly declared, no one
could bide the shock of his lance but his stalwart
brother-in-law, Charles Brandon, Duke of Suffolk.
Henry, like most of our kings, was fond of hunting,
and it is also certain that he excelled in more in-
tellectual pursuits. He wrote some confused theo-
logical treatises and some verse, (a book of sonnets,
said to be by him, is said by Warton to have been
in the possession of Lord Eglintoun), and he pro-
duced some church music which the best authorities
report as indifferent. The following fragment of one
of Henry's sonnets, curiously enough, is interwoven
into one of Churchyard's tedious poems. The
rhymes have no merit, but are curious from the
despotic self-consciousness of the last line: —
" The eagle's force subdues each bird that flies,
What metal can resist the flaming fire ?
Doth not the sun dazzle the clearest eyes,
And melt the ice, and make the frost retire 1
The hardest stones are pierced through with tools,
The wisest are, with princes, made but fools."
" The King's Balkd," the old' music of which is
preserved, and has been perpetuated by Mr.
Chappell in one of his admirable volumes, bears far
more indications of Henry's personality. In my
version of a poem which has been often printed,
I have modernized the spelling in every case
where the rhyme did not turn on the spelling, as I
think such a cleaning up of the old picture makes
its merits and defects more obvious. That the
song is the work of an unpractised writer, any one
can see ; there is no continuity of thought in it,
and the sturdy defiance of the first verse leads on
in the last verse to a theological allusion to free
will (very characteristic), and a moral determina-
tion to cherish virtue and resist vice. The second
verse is very awkwardly expressed, and the lines
" But pass the day
Is best of all "
are noticeable as a proof that passe-temps (pas-
time) was a fashionable French word not even then
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[5th S. I. MAY 23, 74.
quite Anglicized. The King has used it, it will be
noticed, in^ various shapes, four times in the two
verses.
" THE KING'S BALLAD.
" Passtime with good company
I love, and shall until I die,
Grudge whoso will, but none deny^
So God be pleased, so live will I.
For my pastaunce,
Hunt, sing, and daunce,
My heart is set :
All goodly sport
To my comfort
Who shall me let 1
" Youth will have needs dalliance
Of good or ill some pastaunce,
Company me thinketh them best
All thoughts and fantasies to digest ;
For idleness
Is chief mastres
Of vices all : —
Then who can say
But pass the day
Is best of all.
" Company with honesty
Is virtue, and vice to flee;
Company is good or ill,
But every man hath his free will.
The best insew,
The worst eschew,
My mind shall be : —
Virtue to use,
Vice to refuse,
I shall use me."
WALTER THORNBURY.
Abingdon Villas, Kensington.
SHAKSPEAKIANA.
Your Shakspearian readers will, perhaps, be
better able than I am to say whether the piece
which follows is in any Shakspearian Analecta.
I am curious to ascertain who wrote it : —
" Epigram 92.
" To Master W. Shakespeare.
" Shakespeare, that nimble Mercury, thy braine,
Lulls many hundred Argus-eyes asleepe,
So fit, for all thou fashionest thy vaine,
At th' horse-foote fountaine thou hast drunk full deepe,
Vertues or vices theame to thee all one is :
Who loves chaste life, there's Lucrece for a Teacher :
Who list read lust there's Venus and Adonis,
True modell of a most lascivious leatcher.
Besides in plaies thy wit windes like Meander :
When needy new-composers borrow more
Than Terence doth from Plaulus or Menander.
But to praise thee aright I want thy store :
Then let thine owne works thine own worth upraise.
And help t' adorn thee with deserved Baies."
From Ruble, and a Great Cast, Epigrams, by Thomas
Freeman, Gent. .... Imprinted at London, and are to be
sold at the Tiger's Head, 1614. The Epigram is at page
K 2 of the Second part, entitled, Runne, and a Great
Cast, the Second Bowie (p. F 3).
JOHN E. BAILEY.
[For the Epitaph beginning
" Spencer renowned, lye a thought more nye
To learned Chaucer," &c.,
see Introduction to Dyce's Shakespeare.']
NOTE ON A PASSAGE IN SHAKSPEARE (5th S.
i. 303.)— If such capable judges as MR. CORSON
and MR. FURNIVALL differ so widely as to the
word " Anthony" having been used by Shakspeare,
I may venture to ask if such an English word as
" Andainy," or " Andainie," which would have so
nearly the sound of " Antony," is to be found in
any writer of about Shakspeare's time. My reason
for asking this is, that the word " Andain " or
" Andaine " meant in French, " La ligne que le
faucheur a parcourue et le foin qui est reriferm6
dans cette ligne." If we ever had such a word as
" Andainy " or " Andainie," used in the place of
"Antony" or "Antonie," Shakspeare's meaning
would be clear. KALPH N. JAMES.
Ashford, Kent.
1. SHAKSPEARE AND ST. AUGUSTINE. — Has it
ever been pointed out that the painfully precise
terms in which Polonius indicates Hamlet's assumed
madness are taken directly from St. Augustine ?
" And now remains," says the sententious cham-
berlain,
" That we find out the cause of this effect,
Or rather say, the cause of this defect,
For this effect defective comes by cause."
St. Augustine, reasoning on the origin of evil in
man, speaks thus: — " Nemo de me quaerat effici-
entem causam malse voluntatis ; non enirn est
efficiens sed deficiens ; quia nee ilia effectio est "
(Aug. De Civit. Dei, xii. 7). This passage I find
quoted in Colloquia Peripatetica ; Notes of Con-
versations with Professor John Duncan. By Kev.
W. Knight. Edinburgh, 1871.
2. SHAKSPEARE AND LE SAGE. — In the novel of
Le Mariage de Vengeance, one of the episodes in
Gil Bias, there is a Portia living at Belmont (near
Palermo in Sicily), with her father Leontio Siffredi>
Minister to Eoger, King of Sicily. This points to
some circumstances in the Merchant of Venice.
3. SHAKSPEARE AND VOLTAIRE. — I find the
following smart epigram in the miscellaneous works
of Matthias Claudius (Wandsbeck, 1774): —
" Vergleichung.
Voltaire und Shackespeare : der eine
1st was der andre scheint.
Meister Arouet sagt : ich weine ;
Und Shackespeare weint."
Or, in plain English : —
" A Comparison.
Voltaire and Shakespeare ! He was all
The other feigned to be.
The flippant Frenchman speaks : I weep ;
And Shakespeare weeps with me."
D. BLAIR.
Melbourne.
"FiAT JUSTITIA RUAT CCELUM." — This phrase
occurs in Burthogge's Causa Dei (1675), p. 137;
and Mr. John Bartlett, in his excellent Familiar
Quotations, p. 589 (ed. 1870), refers, for it, to
. I. MAY 23, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
405
Ward's Simple Cobbler of Aggawam in America
(1647). But fiat justitia et ruant cadi is found at
pp. 8 and 338 of William Watson's Decacordon of
Ten Quodlibeticall Questions, &c. (1602); and fiat
enim justitia, &c., at p. 196 of the same work.
The presence of enim seems to point to a context
which awaits discovery.
The work just named is sometimes credited to
the famous Robert Parsons. But on what ground?
Not on that of its style, certainly; and as little on
that of its subject-matter, a virulent attack on the
Jesuits. For what evidence is there that Parsons,
himself a Jesuit, and a very ardent one, ever
turned against his Society?
At all events, that the Decacordon is Watson's
is stated, unhesitatingly, by Dr. Thomas James, in
The Jesuits' Dovmefall (1612), in Fuller's Cliurch
History (1655), and in Dr. Timothy Puller's
Moderation of the Church of England (1679).
F. H.
Marlesford.
PECULIAR SPELLINGS, &c. — I have noticed that
Mitford, in his History of Greece, uses " red " for
the past tense of " read." In Russell's Modern
Europe, " seize " is always spelled " seise." Among
the peculiarities of Ulster is the use of the word
" queer," or (as it is pronounced) " quare," to mean
" great." The vulgar also say " cruel " (or rather
" crule "), " shocking," " terrible," &c., for " very,"
ex. gr. " crule good "=very good. A quiet, tractable
horse, they will say, is a " crule modest baste."
To drive away a dog they say " choo " to him.
This is borrowed from " Tu " in Spanish, which
will be found in the mouth of Sancho Panza.
S. T. P.
LEOLINE— CHRISTABEL. — In my simplicity I
had supposed that the names Leoline and Christabel
were fancifully used by the poet ; but I find that
the latter, at least, was a Christian name before
Coleridge's day, and may, perhaps, yet linger in
the Pigott and Fiennes families.
In the chancel of Grendon Underwood Church,
Bucks, on a marble monument : —
" Sacred
to the memory of
The Right Honble. Christobella,
Viscountess Say and Sele,
Who departed this life the 23rd of July, 1789,
Aged 94 years."
This lady had been thrice married ; her second
husband was John Pigott, of Doddershall, in the
county of Bucks. S. S. S.
BYRON AND CHALMERS.— There is a close paral-
lelism of thought between the fifth stanza of the
fourth canto of Childe Harold and the general
strain of Chalmers's fine sermon, On the Expulsive
Power of a New Affection. Thus, Byron : —
" The beings of the mind are not of clay;
Essentially immortal, they create
And multiply in us a brighter ray
And more beloved existence : that which Fate
Prohibits to dull life, in this our state
Of mortal bondage, by these spirits supplied,
First exiles, then replaces what we hate ;
Watering the heart whose early flowers have died,
And with a fresher growth replenishing the void."
And Chalmers: —
" We must address to the eye of his mind another
object, with a charm powerful enough to dispossess the
first of its influences, and to engage him in some other
prosecution as full of interest, and hope, and congenial
activity as the former."
And again : —
"When our present affections take their departure
upon the ingress of other visitors ; when they resign their
sway to the power and the predominance of new affec-
tions ; when, abandoning the heart to solitude, they
merely give place to a successor who turns it into as busy
a residence of desire and interest and expectation as
before," &c.
The whole sermon is a most exquisite and elo-
quent commentary on Byronism and Christianity,
DAVID BLAIR.
Melbourne.
TEA is said, in Haydn's Dictionary of Dates, to
have been brought to Europe by the Dutch, 1610.
It is mentioned as having been used in England
on very rare occasions prior to 1657, and sold for
61., and even 101. the pound ! In 1666, it was
brought into England, by Lord Ossory and Lord
Arlington, from Holland, and, being admired by
persons of rank, it was imported thence, and
generally sold for sixty shillings per pound, till our
East India Company took up the trade. The
following short poem, by Edmund Waller, is be-
lieved to be the first one written in praise of " the
cups that cheer but not inebriate " : —
" ON TEA.
" Venus her myrtle, Phoebus has his bays ;
Tea both excels, which she vouchsafes to praise.
The best of Queens, and best of herbes, we owe
To that bold nation, which the way did show
To the fair region where the sun doth rise,
Whose rich productions we so justly prize
The Muse's friend, tea, does our fancy aid,
Repress those vapours which the head invade,
And keeps that palace of the soul serene,
Fit on her birth-day to salute the Queen."
Waller was born 1605; died 1687, aged 82.
FREDK. RULE.
Ashford.
CURSES. — A curious story in The Vicissitudes
of Families is my apology for this note. Although
it is preposterous to suppose that a wicked curse
should be accomplished, still, what may be called
prophetic denunciations, uttered without any con-
sideration, and seemingly involuntarily, under a
sudden sense of deep wrong, have frequently been,
by a curious coincidence, fulfilled. Instances of
this are within my own knowledge.
Two officers in India, who had been intimate
friends, quarrelled. The one was in power, and the
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other not. The weaker was desirous of serving in
a campaign then commencing, but he was thwarted
most unjustly by his former friend, who rudely
told him that he should not go, as he would use
his influence against him. The latter thereupon,
greatly incensed, exclaimed at random — " No !
I shall see the whole of that campaign through ;
but you never a battle ! You shall die before you
see home !"
The elder man was in robust health, and the
younger (the injured) had just recovered from an
illness. The former went with his regiment into
the field, and the latter was left behind. But,
nevertheless, he succeeded in following ; and
coming into camp on the eve of the first battle, he
noticed a dhoolie (sick litter) leaving it. Asking
the bearers whom they were carrying away, they
replied (the officer's enemy). He had been
taken suddenly ill, and died a few days after, on
his way home to England. The other survived
the campaign. M.
EOMAN CATHOLIC CAUTION AGAINST PRAYING
TO IMAGES. — A few days ago, while looking round
the exterior of St. Peter's, Louvain, I met with the
following inscription. It is painted boldly, but is
so placed that I hardly think it likely it has been
often noted by visitors. No trace is left of the
image referred to : —
" Eerd Christus Beeld aenbid het niet
Aenbid den God wiens beeld gy ziet."
Englished, this would read : —
" Honour Christ's image ; offer it no prayer;
Pray to tbe God whose form thou seest there."
HENRY ATTWELL.
Barnes.
MILTON'S " L' ALLEGRO." — I am surprised to find
my old friend, Mr. E. C. Browne, in the notes to
his admirable Clarendon Press Milton, adopting
the new-fangled explanation of the line —
" And every shepherd tells his tale."
" The tale here," he says, " is not a tale of love,
but the tale of sheep counted by the shepherd as
he turns them forth to pasture."
Now, granted that the passage might bear this
interpretation, I would ask for what good reason
are we to reject in its favour the image in every
way simpler, more natural, more in accord with the
immediate context, and (I submit) more Miltonic,
of the shepherd declaring his passion. All the
other associations enumerated in the passage are
of what is bright and happy — the splendour of the
sun at dawn, the whistling of the ploughman, the
singing of the milkmaid, the sharp and indescri-
bably cheerful ring of the mower whetting his
scythe. Which is the most natural pastoral feature
to associate with these, the rustic courtship under
the hawthorn, or the dull and unpoetic act of
counting a number of straggling sheep ?
The phrase, "telling one's tale" for declaring
one's love is as old as Milton and much older.
Students of Shakspeare do not need to be reminded
of old Capulet recalling the days when he, too,
could " tell a whispering tale " in a fair lady's ear;
and half-a-dozen other instances might be cited
from Shakspeare and his contemporaries.
And if it is submitted that six o'clock in the
morning is an ungenial and unnatural time for
love-making, I can only then quote Milton himself
on the other side, who makes the shepherds in the
" Hymn on the Nativity " occupied with such
thoughts at an equally early hour, " ere the point
of dawn": —
" Perhaps their loves, or else their sheep,
Was all that did their silly thoughts so busy keep."
ALFRED AINGER.
LAMPEDUSA IN 1690. —
" There is in that Island a little Chappell dedicated to
the Virgin, in which there is an altar, and a coffin with
a Turbant laid upon it, •which is usually called Mahomet's
Tomb. Both Turks and Christians have so great a venera-
tion for this Chappell that they never pass it by without
leaving money, victuals, or some other offering. At our
arrival we found two large and fresh pastaiques, a sequin
of gold, some silver aspers, and small coin of Malta, to
which our Captain added a French piece of Three-pence
half-penny. Our pilot told me that these offerings were
design'd for the relief of poor slaves who often times
escap'd thither from Malta and Afric ; adding that the
place was so sacred and miraculous that none but slaves
durst take any of these things from the Altar ; or if they
did, that they could not possibly get out of the island.
He related also several instances of these miracles, but
all his arguments and stories could not hinder me from
eating one of the pastaiques, for the weather was very
hot." — New Voyage to the Levant, by the Sieur du Mont,
Lond., 1702.
The voyager was exposed to a terrible storm near
this island. C. ELLIOT BROWNE.
EPITAPH. — In the church of Bryompton D'Evercy,
Somerset, in a chapel on the north side, under a
canopy, on a marble slab, is the following curious
inscription to the Sydenham family : —
" My founder Sydenham, match'd with Hobye's heyr
Badde me informe thee (gentle passenger)
That what hee hath donne in mee is only meante
To memorize his father and 's discent,
Without vanye glorye ; but he doth intreate,
That if thou comest his legende to repeate,
Thou speake him truly as hee was ; and then
Report it so, hee dyed an honest man.
10 November, 1626."
KT. OF SOMERSET.
MAJOR-GENERAL ST. CLAIR. — In 1870, a com-
munication was received by the chief magistrate of
Thurso, N.B., from the secretary to the Western
Reserve Historical Society, Cleveland, Ohio, in
regard to the parentage of this gentleman, who
died in 1868, and who was described as having
been born at Thurso, in 1734; to have been a
distinguished officer in the French War in America,
1755 to 1763 ; in the American Revolutionary
S. I. MAT 23, '74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
407
War, and in the Indian wars of the south-west.
There are good grounds for the belief that General
St. Clairwas born at Thurso, 24th March, 1736;
that his father was William Sinclair, a merchant
there, and of the family Sinclair of Asserie, in the
county of Caithness, descended from James Sinclair,
first of Murkle, a grandson of George, fourth Earl
of Caithness. J. H.
©tier to*.
[We must request correspondents desiring information
on family matters of only private interest, to affix their
names and addresses to their queries, in order that the
answers may be addressed to them direct.]
TURNER'S " ILLUSTRATED SHAKESPEARE." — I
have a portrait in oil, formerly in the possession of
Mr. John Green, of Evans's, in Covent Garden, on
the back of which is the following memorandum,
signed by him : —
"20 Sept., 1860. Spranger Barry — this is engraved
(very rare)— the engraving I saw in Turner (of Glou-
cester's) Illustrated Shakespeare, and in Franks's collec-
tion. Turner's book sold at Puttick's for 495£. a few
weeks since."
As an engraving answering to the description
was not known to any of the printsellers to whom
I applied, I asked Mr. Green for further particulars,
and he replied (July, 1872) : —
" The Illustrated Shakespeare was the folio of Boydell,
in 20 vols., hound in green morocco, a magnificent aSair,
and realized 5001. The book was bought by a book-
binder (of course on order) living in a stable-yard in
Duke Street, St. James's. The engraving was, as near as
an engraving can be, of Barry as Hamlet."
The portrait, which is ill drawn, is three-quarter
size, and represents a man of fair complexion and
large eyes ; he has long hair, or rather wig, the
curls of which rest on his shoulder, wide drapery,
open at the neck, and a book in his hand.
As Hamlet, this would indicate a dress for the
character antecedent to the time of Barry (who
first appeared in London in 1747, and died in 1777),
as shown by the engravings of Garrick and Hen-
derson in the same part. This, however, is an
insufficient test, as each actor may have followed
his own notions of propriety, and such discrepan-
cies are not unfrequent ; for instance, Garrick
appears to have played Jaffier in his usual costume,
whilst Barry, in the same character, wears a the-
atrical dress. Messrs. Puttick & Simpson were
obliging enough to refer to their catalogues of the
time indicated, but could give me no information
with respect to the book said to have been sold by
them. On the other hand, Mr. Green's statement
is clear and distinct.
Under these circumstances, I seek the aid of
" N. & Q.," not doubting that some of its readers
can report on the whereabouts of a book of this
importance, and which is said to have been sold
for so large a sum. CHARLES WYLIE.
" SITUATE." — Is the use &i this word in the pre-
terite correct 1 The past tense, according to all
analogy, is situated, and so it is generally used ;
but yet situate is frequently employed instead, and
by good writers too.
" A goodly orchard ground was situate,"
occurs in Chapman's translation of the Odyssey,
book vii., and I have more than once of late read
in leading articles of the Times that such and such
a place was situate, &c., which I cannot help think-
ing is a somewhat slipshod expression. The sub-
ject of the correct form of the preterite has lately
been discussed in " N. & Q.," and I should be glad
to have an authoritative dictum on the above point.
W. E.
WHITTLE-GATE. — Can any one inform me of the
meaning and origin of this term ? It was the pri-
vilege granted, in quite recent times, to poor school-
masters in the north of England, of dining in
rotation with the parents of their scholars ; and, I
believe, extended at one time to those of the clergy
who had the guardianship of the flock, without
much other chance of enjoyment from the fleece.
J. DEVENISH HOPPUS.
REV. RICHARD GIBSON. — I am very desirous to
procure some information in regard to Mr. Gibson,
who was the first settled clergyman of this province,
then the Piscataqua Colony. All that our records
or histories here give us is this : That on the 1st
of December, 1631, Robert Trelawney (in our
papers sometimes spelled Trilawney), and Moses
Goodyear, of Plymouth, England, had a patent
assigned on our coast of Maine, and that, under
Trelawney as proprietor, Richard Gibson was the
minister of the settlement at Richmond's Island as
early as 1637. In 1638, and thereafter until 1642,
he appears at our settlement officiating in a small
chapel, and is spoken of as a learned and accom-
plished Churchman.
Anything in regard to the life of Mr. Gibson,
or any traces of a portrait of him, will be considered
of importance. JAMES DE NORMANDIE,
Minister of the South Parish.
Portsmouth, N.H., U.S.
WARRANTS FOR THE EXECUTION OF CHARLES I.
— I have written "warrants" in the plural ad-
visedly, for I have lately been assured, not for the
first, second, or third time, that besides that pre-
served in the House of Lords another copy of such
warrant is in existence. I thought the question
had already been discussed in " N. & Q.," but
having just referred to the fourth of your valuable
general indexes (the other three I had previously
consulted) without finding any trace of such dis-
cussion, I venture to put the question, Is any
duplicate of this remarkable document known to
exist ? I doubt it. But I have heard it suggested
that it might have been signed in triplicate, so
408
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5th S. I. MAT 23, 74.
that each of the three officers who were called
upon to act under its authority might have in his
possession a warrant for so doing. MR. THOMS,
in his notes on the Warrants (4th S. x. 1, 21),
hardly notices this rumour, to which it is clear he
attaches no weight. W. F. T.
"LEGENDS OF GLENORCHY." — Who was the
author of these poems ? LAURIGER.
" THE GLORY OF THEIR TIMES ; OR, THE LIVES
OF THE PRIMITIVE FATHERS." London, printed
by I. Okes, 1640, small 4to., with copper-plate
frontispiece, and forty-four portraits of the Fathers,
beginning with Philo Judseus and Josephus, finely
engraved by P. Glover. Who was the author of
the above, and is it scarce ? F. S. L.
" QUADRAGESIMALIS." — Can any of the readers
of " N. & Q." inform me what is the meaning of
Quadragesimalis in the following inscriptions on
cups belonging to one of the colleges at Oxford ? —
(1.) "D.D. Sam. Bowater soc. com. et col. Quadrage-
simalis, 1653."
(2.) " D.D. Guil. Sergrove A.B. soc. et coll. Quadrage-
simalis, 1767."
M. J.
"LEGEM SERVARE." — Lord Coleridge said, at
the anniversary dinner of the Royal Literary Fund,
that " Legem servare hoc est regnare " was an old
and pious saying, which had come down to us from
the Middle Ages. How is this to be traced back?
ED. MARSHALL.
Sandford St. Martin.
" Creator spirit, thou the first
To be through time unending;
Whose word was ' Light/ and light outburst,
In myriad forms descending."
Who is the author of the above, and where shall I
find the whole hymn 1 A. B. M.
LETTERS BY " AN ENGLISHMAN." — To whom are
the celebrated letters by " An Englishman," which
appeared in the Times, Dec., 1851. ascribed ? They
are written with reference to the policy and conduct
of Louis Bonaparte at that time.
V. DE S. FOWKE.
Union Society, Oxford.
EDWARDS, OF AMERICA. — Can some of the
American correspondents of "N. & Q." tell me
what arms were borne by the family of Jonathan
Edwards, author of the Treatise on the Will?
I want to know, to try to make more perfect a
genealogical table of the Edwardses of Salop.
H. B.
MILTON : " PRO POPULO ANGLICANO DE-
FENSIO."— Bruce, in his life of Morus, p. 99 (Edin-
burgh, 1813), speaking of the Index to this work,
in which are collected the abusive epithets heaped
by Milton upon Salmasius, says : —
" This curious Index, probably annexed to that edition
[apparently the 4to. of 1651] by himself, with the proper
references, is not to be found in the 12mo. edition in
Lond., 1652 ; nor in the folio edition of his Latin works
printed in Holland, near the end of that century."
On referring to my copy of the 12mo. edition of
1652, I find the Index at the end, and the title-
page bears " cum Indice." The Index is not
paged, but has the signature M 7, the preceding
one being M 6, and on the last page of the text is
the catch-word " Index." Has Bruce then fallen
into an error, or are there two editions of 1652, the
one with and the other without the Index? Is
the statement as to the folio edition correct ?
D. M.
DAVID SCHOMBERG. — He held, I believe, some
high berth in the Ordnance Office in the time of
William III. or Anne. Can you give me any in-
formation about him 1 He is said to have been a
nephew, or cousin, of the first Duke of Schomberg.
OTTO.
LEAFING OF THE OAK BEFORE THE ASH. — What
is the correct form of the old saw which affects to
foretell the character of the ensuing summer, when
the oak puts forth its leaves before the ash, or vice
versa ? JAMES GRAVES.
"ANTIENT." — About the time of the Great
Rebellion, in 1642, or thereabouts, a Demy of
Magdalen College, Oxford, left the University,
joined the Parliamentary army, and became an
antient in Lord Peterborough's regiment against
the king. What is the meaning of the military
term antient at that time 1 J. R. B.
THE PROPHECIES OF PASTORINI.; — Where can I
get an account of these, once so popular amongst
the Roman Catholic peasantry of Ireland, prin-
cipally, I fear, from his liberal vaticinations on the
destruction of heretics in that island 1 I remember,
when a child, 1825, a universal feeling of terror
amongst the Protestant population on account of
one of them. These prophecies were current at
least as early as the Rebellion of 1798, as they are
alluded to by Musgrave in his history of that
period. H. H.
Lavender Hill.
SIR JOHN SOWERBY, KNT.— Can any one give
me information as to who Sir John Sowerby, Knt.,
was, to what county he belonged, and at what
period he lived 1 Address answer to
W. E. HOWLETT.
Kirton in^Lindsey.
" How JOHN BULL GOT THE KEY OF HIS OWN
HOUSE." — Where can I find a copy of this clever
article — " broad sheet " it might be called — which
I remember reading twenty years ago ? It is in
Sydney Smith's style, but not his, I am almost
sure. B. S. H.
5th S. L MAT 23, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
409
BUCKLEY, or BULKLET FAMILIES. — Will anj
reader of "N. & Q." kindly inform me wh(
the Buckleys of Stuttgart were 1 One, John
Buckley, was born in Stuttgart in 1754-5, anc
resided there till 1775 with two maiden sisters
I am desirous of ascertaining their locale in Eng
land previous to their establishment in Stuttgart.
H. F.
BACON'S ESSAYS. — In what year was Bacon's
essay Of Plantations first published 1 The cele-
brated collection of essays appeared originally in
instalments, in the years 1597, 1612, and 1625 ; in
which of these was the essay in question ?
E. 0.
" WISE AFTER THE EVENT." — Unde ? Is it an
ancient or a classic phrase? I came across it
recently in a controversy on the Eyre and Kooka
affairs, but the earliest use of it known to me is in
Sir George Staunton's speech, in reply to Sir Jame
Graham's resolution condemning the Melbourne
Ministry in the matter of the then impending
Chinese war (House of Commons, 7 April, 1840).
W. T. M.
Shinfield Grove.
SILVER MEDAL. — What did a silver medal,
about the size of a half-crown, with the inscrip-
tion BRITAN. LIBER. RELIG. JCSTIT. LEG. VIND.
MDCLXXXIX., commemorate ? J. C. J.
PETITIONS TO PARLIAMENT. — Can any one in-
form me when these began to be consigned to the
care of members for presentation ?
T. W. WEBB.
WOOD FAMILY. — Can any of your correspondents
give me information as to the family of this name,
of which Hannah, who married, June 23, 1722,
George Wyatt, chief clerk of the vote office of the
House of Commons, was a member. She was
bom October 28, 1698, and died June 10, 1782.
I find amongst the sponsors of her seven children,
Mary Wood, Samuel Wood, Samuel Tuffnell,
Charles Owsley, Thomas Mytton, and others of
the name of Hinton, Harrison, Cartony, Kemp,
and Ferryman. Her youngest child, Hannah,
married August 4, 1771, the Rev. William Vin-
cent, D.D., afterwards Dean of Westminster. I
should be most glad to learn where Hannah Wood
married George Wyatt, and also where their
daughter Hannah married William Vincent.
George Wya« was great-great-grandson of George
Wyai, of Boxley, Kent, the tenth child of Sir
Thomas Wya<, of Allington Castle and Boxley
Abbey, who was beheaded April 11, 1554.
REGINALD STEWART BODDINGTON.
15, Markham Square, S.W.
FIELD LORE : CARR, ING, ETC.
(4th S. xi. xii. passim; 5th S. i. 35, 131, 311, 376.)
It is useless generalizing over maps and histories
in a county so exceptional as Cumberland. North
differs from south, and east from west, in popular
speech and in place and land names, according to
the influence to which each has been subjected.
All is consistent, and those who choose to read
and compare the faithful testimony of the 'fields,
their names and aspects, may find verification of
history of long past times, and vestiges of each of
the various peoples who have passed over the land.
Here a Celtic form of a word, and there a Teutonic
form of the same meaning, but allied, and not un-
like as might be expected. If we can distinguish
between the names that remain in some unsought
and obscure spots, it may throw light on the scope
and influence of the people who gave them.
Mr. Taylor, in Names and Places, quotes An-
derson's lines —
" There's Cumwhitton, Cumwhinton, Cumrenton,
Cumrangen, Cumrew, and Cumcatch ;
And mony mair Cums i' the country,
But nin wi' Cumdivock can match,"
to show that Cumberland is named as the land of
valleys, which it may be, if that is the interpretation
of Cumbria or Cymria. But this verse, to strangers,
might give an impression that cum is a common
word or prefix, for which Anderson's poetical ex-
aggeration must be accountable ; for except Cum-
mersdale, I do not remember any more " cums i'
the country," and these are all within a short
distance of Carlisle, and in a comparatively level
district, while among the more numerous and re-
markable Cumbrian valleys the word is unknown.
It seems to be generally superseded by dale, the
antithesis to fell. In Cummersdale they are
united ; and if this is not a vestige of some later
comers (strangers), which, as it is of a manufacturing
iharacter, may not be unlikely, it may be, like
;he cums, a trace of the Cymri in the locality.
Mr. Ferguson has coom, the A.S. form of this
word, as belonging to Cumberland, on which a
•eviewer remarked that it was a characteristic
word ; doubtless in that view of history in which
we were all brought up, that this is the stronghold
of the Ancient Britons. It is, perhaps, for its
mtering into the name Gillercoom that it appears
ihere ; at least the only sense in which we know
he word is that of dust from friction, turf-coom,
;aw-coom, from sawing wood, as it is seen in a
Yorkshire glossary. Glen, another British word
'or valley, occurs four or five times in the county
"lenderamakin. Glenderaterra, Glencoin, and
lenridding, are all near the lakes ; the two last
ncluded in Patterdale ; and Glenwhelt in the
orth-east ; but neither glen nor coom, so far as I
mow, are ever used in speech, or met with in
^eld names.
410
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5th 6. I. MAT 23,
Inquiries for the word car have brought to light
many more instances in these counties ; and since
Joyce's Irish Names was quoted in " N. & Q." to
show that its equivalent " corrach or curragh, a
marsh, also a race-ground, gives names to the waste
lands of twenty-eight parishes in Ireland," a gentle-
man resident in the town of Cork said that it was
so named from the old marsh on which it was
built; and newspaper accounts, during the wet
winter of 1872, of partial inundations there, seemed
to confirm the tradition, as well as to show the
variations of the word. There seems only the same
difference between Cork and Corrach as an Irish-
man makes between arm and arrum by pronun-
ciation. This recalled the old name of Corby, which
in the earliest writings is spelt Corkeby ; and
suggested that that also, situated near the Gums,
might be another trace of Celtic influence, unless it
is the fanciful spelling of the " Monks of Weder-
hale." But, with the usual variety of the district,
" carr-syke " is mentioned as the boundary of the
next parish below ; while I see on a modern map,
at Cumwhinton just above, " Cairn Bridge," which
I fear is an innovation for sound or fashion's sake,
like Blencairo for earn, tending to falsify the name
of the rich old bogs, where no cairn, or burial-
mound, has been heard of. I believe the n is often
added to car, and the word otherwise varied by
vowel changes ; but the ground always speaks for
itself, and if persons would consult it before altering
the old names, there would not be so many mis-
takes. There is a Carrhead at Croglin, as in York-
shire ; and another farm named Carholme, at
Ainstable, same as the Lincoln racecourse. There
are two Corbys in Lincolnshire, and Corbridge in
Northumberland. Corby is also found in field
names, besides Coardale Beck, and other varieties
in all the northern counties.
On the contrary, I have not heard of Ing as a
field name lower down the Eden than Lazonby,
the northernmost for several miles, of a cluster of
villages with that Danish termination. Pye Ing
is a farm in the next parish, half-way between
Penrith and Carlisle. Whether the word has ever
existed among the same class of names nearer the
border, or along the western coast of Cumberland,
where it is now wanting, or whether it has been
trampled out and obliterated by the varied coloni-
zation of these more accessible shores and districts,
on which English and Flemish, Scotch and Irish,
settlers have left their traces, it would be interesting
to discover. Probably other words have been sub-
stituted, as the names of grass-lands there often
end in field, park, hill, pasture, croft, grassing,
bottom, &c.; for, as Anderson says, with literal
truth —
* There '9 Harraby and Tarraby, an' Wiggoriby beside,
And Oughterby and Southerby, and lys baith far and
wide,"
the bys being at least ten times as numerous as the
cums. I know of more than sixty, but they are
not all on the map of Cumberland. In Alstonmoor
;here are neither bys nor ings, probably never have
jeen ; and there the brooks are burns. But from
Lazonby, along the Eden, up to its source in Wild-
Boar Fell, a purely agricultural district of Cum-
aerland and Westmoreland, there are few parishes-
without ings, except perhaps those in which Nor-
man or other great proprietors have long been in
actual possession, and where the old names have
Deen translated by their agents, and obliterated by
;heir followers. On a modern map I see Ing End,,
Little Ing, Load Ing, near the junction with York-
shire ; doubtless quiet farms among the Fells.
Hanging Lund and Iloff Lund are, consistently, in
the same region. Lund is the Danish word for
grove. Holbeck Lund and many names of similar
Character are in Yorkshire. This winter a sale,
was advertised to take place at Lambeck Ing, — no
other reference, — and I enjoyed the spring-picture
uggested by the name, not doubting that it would
be found in the usual connexion, near Penrith.
Accordingly, it seems the Lambeck rises in Carrock.
Fell, flows by Johnby and Greystoke, and the place
indicated is near Lamonby. West Ing is a farm
in Mungrisdale; Langwath Ing is a field near
Keswick. The meadow by the long ford; and
lately I see a Broad Ing mentioned among grass-
lands to be let as far west as Ireby.
From Westmoreland I have had lists of field
names kindly sent. "At Kirkby Thore there are ings
both by the Eden and Troutbeck. Washington
Ing might have been a place for sheep washing, as
the Fell-stocks were of old divided, in autumn, in-
the adjoining field. And there is Powis Ing."
Turning to Burn and Nicolson, I find an instance
of the translation of names : — " There is a Close at
Kirkby Thore, called Meadow Powes, charged with
31. 6s. 3d.," to several charitable purposes, &c.
There is also a farm, Powis House ; but of the
owner of this fine old Welsh name — Powys — I can
find no other trace : doubtless, one of the few
Britons who held his own among the almost uni-
versally Northern population. There are Panidalesr
not far off, which might have been named by, or
might have belonged to, this pre-historic worthy.
Of Washington, a name now equally silent, and
apparently forgotten in the rural district, there is-
this trace : — " In the 1st, Joh. Gilbert de Reinfred
passed his accounts in the Exchequer for fines paid!
by Henry de Weshington for lands at Crosby
Ravensworth." In some neighbouring parishes
the name occurs, and each time differently spelt.
"In 6th Richard I. an exchange of lands by Henry
de Winchinton, at Crossebi," &c.; and "In 14th
Edw. I. Henry de Wessington, who married one of
the daughters of the last Robt. de Vetripont,
divided the inheritance," soon after which the name
passes away from the district.
The orthography of names seems to have been
. I. MAY 23, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
411
quite a matter of fancy in old times, for we read of
" lands at Ellerker (same as Aldercar) by the
Hedene and Truttebeck." A sulphureous spring
here is named Potts, the waters of which were
formerly resorted to by persons in the neighbour-
hood, and drank medicinally. Dirtpot is a field
name here, and not uncommon in other places
where a " Foul syke" carries oflf the watery nuisance.
The Roman Road passed across this parish, and the
fields named Borwens are thought to be so named
from its mounds remaining. In Temple-Sowerby
Moss, adjoining, it is added, each family had formerly
its own peat pot, from which was dug every year
the winter's fuel.
A gentleman, whose family has long been settled
near Appleby, sends valuable lists from old Valua-
tion books : — " In Bolton parish there are Ing-
lands, Earth Ing, Star Ing, Ings Allotments,
Ings Closes and Broad Ings, Red Pot, Latha Close,
Cardale, Pantdales (synonymous), Old Norse and
Celtic Open Ellers, Wandells, Wanderflatt, Wikeld,
Wiber (all relating to willows, probably, as wands
and withes), Hindom and Sandhom (Hindholm,
Sandholm), Baron lands, Baron Swensons,* Kirk-
wathdales, Muckwatfo (where fords are used),
Grimsber Top, Thornbers (high uplands all the
hers), Burtrigg, Castrigg, Arneside, Peatmire,
Streetrigg, Efler Stubbs, Bull Ing, Knock Butts,
&c."
Reagill, parish of Crosby Ravensworth (anciently
written Ravensthwaite and Ravenswath, each of
which might have been appropriate), has " Crag
Ing, and seven other Ings. Several enclosures
named Masks (probably marske, the Danish word
for marsh, which occurs also in Yorkshire), three
Bysteads (sites of houses), Lynegards (enclosures
for flax), Blinbeck, Leases."
In the parishes of Morland and Shap, and at
Newby and Cliburn, there are Ings, Hynings,
Beddings, Skelk«, and other more general names.t
At King's Meaburn —
" There are numbers of Ings, and of all shapes and sizes,
not near a river ; several Ingmires ; a great many King's
Ings. A few fields have keld compounded with brow,
land, &c., evidently from a fine spring near Keld Well.
Many end in how and ber, always hilly, and in this and
neighbouring parishes, as far as Kirkby Stephen, many
which show portions of bare, flat rock have Hint in
their name."
Though it is added that these last words convey
no idea to the mind at present, being heard only
in names. Keld, which gives names to farms and
wells, and families, in compounds, all over these
counties, is the Scandinavian word for spring —
* Possibly referring to Adam Fitzsweyn. Swainson is
a not uncommon local name.
f JJegn, a hedge, in all northern tongues, seems to
have given names to choice enclosures in many places —
Henning, Haining,and Hyning. Redding is as common
for a clearing. Scale-how, probably hill of the shielings,
booths.
Coldkeld, Salkeld, &c. ; Klint is that for rock, cliff,
which are little used here ; how and ber, probably
abbreviations of berg, a mound or hilL There are
other lists of similar character, none showing, per-
haps, such decided Scandinavian predominance.
Meaburn was the manor of Simon de Morville, one
moiety of which was given to his daughter, Maud,
wife of De Vetripont, and the other to his son, Hugh
de Morville. When, for his share in the death of
Thomas a Beckett, the latter was dispossessed by
Henry II., and this " taken into the king's hand,"
the two villages were distinguished as King's Mea-
burn and Mauld's Meaburn, and are still so known.
In Burn and Nicolson it is remarked that the " name
was formerly written Medburn, apparently from
the brook which flows through it, though that is
the Lyvennet Beck." So in the cases of Milburn
and Cliburn, the streams near are known as becks,
and burn is not popularly understood here as
synonymous. It is a fine agricultural district,
with its background of fells ; but it was often
wasted by Scottish raids during the troublous
times of the borders, which, perhaps, may account
for the quantity of land bearing the name Ings —
once part morass, which drainage has converted
into beautiful meadows. King John soon gave
this part of the manor to De Vetripont, but the
" King's Ings" remain. Indeed, whatever kings or
dynasties may have passed away, and whatever
lords may have been dominant (of which Domes-
day here may tell), they seem to have made
wonderfully little change in the names of the
people and the land. One is reminded of a passage
in Sir H. Maine, that "when the Manorial land
system superseded the Patriarchal communities,
the small holders were probably not dispossessed,"
but paid the fines, and rendered services required,
keeping their hold on the land and their ancient
fell-rights as at this day. And what a duration
this implies ! The people who named the fields
evidently did not write. There is no certain record
of their coming ; and laws and records were written
in language other than theirs — Norman-French or
monkish Latin — and in certain localities the old
names have been translated and lost. For a long
time back, however, parish Valuations in this dis-
trict have been made by native valuators, often
residents and amateurs, to whom the importance
of preserving the old names was manifest.
There are still, in names of people and places, in
speech and custom and old-fashioned economics,
a thousand analogies with the Scandinavian coun-
tries, quite in accordance with these field names.
It is to be regretted that this fine old word and
historical landmark, ing, is not more generally
recognized and valued ; and that where it is known
it should ever be superseded by new names utterly
at variance with the country and climate. Pity
also that we do not always write it carefully.
I saw Pye Ing lately printed as one word,
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NOTES AND QUEEIES.
[5th S. I. JUT 23,
which strangers must 'have read to ryme with
spying ; and such, doubtless, has been one cause
of its loss in places where, from all analogy, it
must have existed.
In some glossaries I see Ing marked A.S. Yet
Bosworth's Dictionary has no mention of it except
in " Ingwyrt, (?) " quoted and unexplained, which,
though we have it not, we suppose must be the
meadow-sweet — Spirea ulmaria — our " Queen o'
the meedow," in North Cumberland, being the
literal translation of the Danish Engdronning.
So, probably, Ing is not found in old MSS. In
Names and Places, indeed, its existence and general
significance is acknowledged, but no local habita-
tion is assigned to it in the nomenclature of the
country ; nor has it any place in English literature
that I have met with, save that Canon Kingsley,
in writing of the Fens, says that "Deeping, in
Lincolnshire, means deep meadow." He also men-
tions thab the " Car-dyke," or catch-water drain
through the swamp between Peterborough and
Lincolnshire is attributed to the Romans.
But instances like these are never solitary, and,
to look at the maps of counties and coasts where
the Danes were once so powerful, one would say
the word is still there, in names, as prefix and
medial and suffix, except that the ground is so
generally claimed, on high authority, for the family
settlements of the Anglo-Saxons, in whose lan-
guage ing seems merely a diminutive, and never a
meadow. To the northern mind the suggestion
naturally arises, Had the kings never Ings near
London ? And what is the origin of that name of
the " Old Court Suburb," as Leigh Hunt called
Kensington 1 What were the names of the
fields in which Lady Sarah Lennox was making
hay as young King George III. rode past ?
Perhaps the old map of London (Agas's) may throw
some light on this point. Thoby, it seems, is near
Ingatestone, where we think there must have been
some stone to mark the gate, or, perhaps, the
road through a meadow, where all around was
waste. Was there not at " God-aim- ing " some
meadow left for pious alms, like Powys Ing ; and at
Margaret-ing some pearly dame, once its pro-
prietress ] The people of each locality can best
interpret the names they possess ; and if they will
study their field lore, it may aid in correcting some
error, and sometimes in saving truth that is
perishing.
Jamieson's Scottish Dictionary has ink, which I
have never met with as synonymous with ing ;
and link, as in " the Links o' Forth." With all
deference to such authority, links^ refers to the
windings of a river, for which we have crooks, as
Petteril Crooks, Crook of Lune, &c. ; or to curls
of hair, in old ballads, as " the links o' gowd and
ivorie." And in a secondary sense, if it includes
sandy plains, on which the game of golf can be
played, the word does not fairly represent our ing.
Haugh is the corresponding word in Scotland, and
the adjoining border of Northumberland — " Leader
haughs an' Yarrow " ; " the dowie dens o' Yarrow."*
The Scottish brae may often accord with our holm,
the raised bank of a river. Ing, with us, belongs
to that rich deep verdure, which, wherever it is
known, has been the chosen ground of poetry.
Soft primeval meadows, a little way from the
streams, the sward of which is never to be broken
by the plough ; or tracts of luxuriant green be-
tween forest glades, which, in Shakspeare's time,
the fairies were supposed to haunt, and into the
declining recesses of which Will-o'-the-wisp was so
apt to decoy his victims. There is no combination
so common with ing as mire, Ingmire, and as-
suredly none could have been more true to fact.
A Danish proverb says, " When the Eng is
yellow the I/acZe (barn, Laith, Cumb.) will be filled."
Our ings are still mostly hay-ground, and after the
autumn rains and dews their fog, or after-grass, is
of the richest, butter-producing luxuriance, saved
especially on that account for the milk cows. Not
" dry grass," as some book says ; and other analogies
favour a belief that it is from the Danish fugte, to
moisten. " The foggy knowe," in The Gentle Shep-
herd, seems to allude to the moist verdure of the
hill at evening. The excessive richness of clover-
fog, the after-crop of fine corn-lands, is absolutely
dangerous to cattle with the dew upon it. One of
my earliest lessons in field lore — long years ago —
was when it was reported that one of my father's
bullocks "had broken over a hedge, one rowky
morning, into the clover-fog, and was found lying
dead." They were to have been turned in later in
the day, but this poor creature could not resist the
sight, and served to " point a moral," as well as to
impress the meaning of the word.
I can only quote from one source, which we
neglect in England to our own disadvantage, the
only one which can show any parallel to the ver-
dure of English valleys, to prove our faithful keep-
ing of the word ing. O3hlenschlager says of
Ingeiiil that she faded like a flower — " Visned
som en Blomst i Enge." And Christian Winther
in his poem on Siseland, the largest of the Danish
islands, sighs to be laid in its green bosom : —
" Ak ! kunde jeg da laegge
Til Ro mig i din Eng ! "
Cumberland. M.
Assonance appears to be very destructive of
field names. In searching for Cymraeg traces in
* In the third edition of Names and Places, this word
is confused with how, a hill, not as if from inadvertence,
but repeatedly; and haugr, a burial mound, is once
mentioned as allied. If, in spite of Wordsworth and
the old Scottish ballads, of Mr. Taylor's learning and re-
search, and the acuteness of critics, this is still possible, it
shows a strong light on the difficulties of northern dialect
to Southrons. Kirkhaugh is the church meadow — name
of a Northumbrian parish near Alston. Pron. ha/ by
those who do not give the guttural in the North. .«^. . .
5* S. I. MAT 2S, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
413
Lancashire, I examined many estate maps, schedules,
&c. From what I have left of my notes on the sub-
ject, I have extracted the following : —
"A.r. 1684 Two ffeamours; A.D. 1801 Lower and
Upper Themer.
"1684 Douglas Meadow; 1801 Duggas or Dorcas
Meadow.
1781 Long Hoyle 1831 Big Isles
Spear Spit Spier Pit
Reap Acre Heap Acre
Long Thorn Long Stang
Flash Carr Dole
Farther Edge Farther Hedge
Naunts Aunts
" Ogreys, later deeds give Augurys. Margreats Field,
later deeds give Market Field. "
H. T. C.
QUEEN ANNE'S INDIAN CHAPEL OF THE ONON-
DAGAS (5th S. i. 248.)— The Onondagas was one of
the five (at a later period, six) nations of the
Iroquois confederacy. They have given their name
to a county and township in central New York.
The four Iroquois chiefs, who visited England in
1710, and had an audience of Queen Anne, asked
that ministers might be sent to instruct their
people in Christianity. In 1712, the S. P. G. ap-
pointed the Rev. William Andrews a missionary
to the Iroquois, and the Queen directed a fort to be
built in the country of the Mohawks (the eastern-
most of the five nations), with a chapel and a house
for the minister : —
" The Chapel was very decently adorned. Queen Anne
had given handsome Furniture for the Communion-Table.
. . . Archbishop Tenison gave 1'2 large Bibles, very finely
bound, for the use of the Chapel ; with painted Tables,
containing the Creed, Lord's- Prayer, and Ten Command-
ments."— Humphreys's Hist. Account of the Soc. for the
Propagation, <kc., London, 1730, p. 331.
The mission proved fruitless, and was soon
abandoned. The Onondago fort and chapel were
not built. The Communion Service presented by
the Queen was retained for the use of the first
English church in Albany, and is still, or was till
lately, preserved (Documentary History of N.
York, vol. iii., p. 697). Q. Y. Z. has, it appears,
one of the " twelve large Bibles."
J. H. TRUMBULL.
Hartford, Conn.
NEWTON'S "AXIOMATA SIVE LEGES MOTUS"
(5th S. i. 322.) — In addition to the passage which
I have already given from the General Scholium to
the Principia, the following" sentence, which begins
the Scholium to the laws of motion, may be quoted
in support of my argument : — " Hactenus principia
tradidi a mathematicis recepta et multiplici ex-
perientia confirmata." The " principia " here men-
tioned are the laws of motion and their corollaries.
This is clear from what follows in the Scholium.
Now, if Newton had believed the laws of motion
to be " immediate intuitions, or data of con-
sciousness," propositions " knowable a priori,"
" axioms," in the same sense of that word as the
axioms of Geometry, it is impossible to assign any
valid reason for his appeal to " multiplex ex-
perientia" in confirmation of them. He would
no more have dreamed of invoking experience in
confirmation of the axioms of Euclid than Mr.
Spencer himself.
What Newton really meant when he described
certain propositions in the Principia and the
Opticks as " axioms " appears to be suggested by
the words " a mathematicis recepta," in the above
sentence, and by the following passage at the end
of the list of axioms in the First Book of the
Opticks : — " I have now given in Axioms and their
Explications the Summ of what hath hitherto been
treated of in Opticks. For what hath been generally
agreed on I content myself to assume under the
notion of Principles, in order to what I have
farther to write." Newton's optical and mechan-
ical "axioms" thus appear to be propositions
which he considered himself at liberty to assume
without proof because they were generally accepted.
Their acceptance may have been due, or not, to
their self-evidence. But there is no evidence that
he believed that it was. I may, perhaps, be
allowed to add that, in my own opinion, the first
law of motion is a mere identical proposition, im-
mediately following from the usual definition of
mechanical force. FRANK SCOTT HAYDON.
Merton, Surrey.
" INFANT CHARITY " (4th S. x. 332, 381, 459.)
— I remember that, in my boyish days, some
"potters" in the North of England, well known
as " Swaleses' gang," used to send their children out
to beg, and the noise that the poor infants made at
Ihe doors was a regular wailing. I shall never
forget the drawling sing-song when they said
" pleaas Missus a coud poratee or a lile bit o'
drippin'; we hev 'nt owt ta it !" This was generally
the cry of these children, who were rosy and
healthy looking, and belied their story ! Miss
Baillie was well acquainted with more than one
district where the Swaleses were ; and she must
have frequently heard the wailings of the infants.
I therefore think that the noise made by Swaleses'
infants originated the simile in the beautiful glee.
VIATOR (l).
" REGINALD TREVOR : A TALE," &c., BY ED-
WARD TREVOR ANWYL, &c. (4th S. viii. 327, 462 ;
5th S. i. 86.) — I cannot gather from CYMRO AM
BYTH'S note clearly what information he intends
to convey. Does he mean that " Edward Trevor
Anwyl " is not a pseudonym, or does he mean
that " Edward Trevor " is a real name, and that
the author has added what CYMRO AM BYTH tells
us is a good old Welsh adjective, namely,
"Anwyl," to express a quality he considers he
possesses, like some of the French bibliographers
who put " bibliophile " after theirs ?
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5th 8. 1. MAY 23, 74.
G. M. T., on page 462, fancies it is a real name,
for reasons he gives, and the British Museum Cata-
logue agrees with him ; but the London Catalogue,
1816-1851, registers the work under its title, the
compiler considering "Anwyl" a pseudonym. I
do not find the name in Allibone. "Anwyl" puzzled
me a good deal, but I must admit being far more
bothered with your correspondent's signature, and
I fear now there is some mysterious meaning in it.
OLPHAR HAMST.
MAIDENWELL, NEAR LOITTH (4th S. vii. 389,
548.) — Sir James Lancaster, the celebrated navi-
gator, whose name is preserved in " Lancaster's
Sound," in Baffin's Bay (will dated 1618), granted
and secured to Sir William Cockaine and others
certain estates at Maidenwell, in Lincolnshire, and
also other estates in trust, " that the rents, profits,
&c., should be paid into the hands of the master,
wardens, and commonalty of the mystery of
Skinners, London, to be by them distributed and
bestowed according to the direction of his will."
They were to " pay out of the rents and profits of
the said manor of Maidenwell yearly 1031. 6s. 8d.
to the churchwardens, lecturer, and the bailiffs of
the town and parish of Basingstoke, in the county
of Southampton (where I was born)." The will
then goes on to describe how this money is to be
distributed ; the town of Basingstoke also had
other gifts out of the overplus of his estate. If
the estate on which the Moseleys resided at
Maidenwell is the same as that now held by the
Corporation of Basingstoke, they were only tenants,
and not the owners of it. SAMUEL SHAW.
Andover.
THE FIRST EAR-RING (4th S. iii. 218.)— An
engraving, entitled "Ladies' Ears Bored gratis,"
was published by Laurie & Whittle, May 12th,
1794, 53, Fleet Street, London. This plate came
into my possession recently. I would infer that
the design is Rowlandson's. Wilkie's painting
of " The First Ear-ring" was executed in 1835.
W. T.
EEV. GEORGE ARNET, A.M. (3rd S. iii. 348 ;
xi. 464 ; 5th S. i. 268.) — I have found, among the
papers left by a relative, the following, which may
possibly interest MR. MATTHEWMAN : —
"A silver seal, of very ancient, curious, and elegant
workmanship, was shown in our office the other day, the
history of which is somewhat singular. About the year
1780, or a little before, .some workmen ploughing a part
of the enclosed Flodden Field found a solid silver seal,
•which, from the arms, turned out to have been that of
Robert Arnot, of Woodmiln (direct ancestor of the Bal-
cormo family in Fife), who bore the royal pennon on
that day, and fell at his sovereign's side.
" The seal found its way into the hands of an English
gentleman of taste and fortune, and Scottish descent, of
that name, whose arms it nearly approximated.
" His successor, a Captain in the Navy, being a sister's
son, and so not inheriting his uncle's name, in the most
kind and liberal manner transferred it to the lineal
descendant of its gallant owner." — Copied from the Stan-
dard newspaper, February, 1836 " (the day of the month
is not given).
The " English gentleman of taste and fortune,
and Scottish descent," was Matthew Robert Arnotr
Esq., usher of the green rod, reading-clerk, and
Jerk of the private committees to the House of
Peers from about 1765 to 1801, only son of the
Rev. George Arnot (vicar of Wakefield from 1728
to 1750). This Matthew Robert Arnot was
affirmed to have been " a baronet by descent," but
to have declined to assume the title.
A statement made by J. M. A. (3rd S. xi. 464),
to the effect that Sir William Arnot, who died in
1782, was succeeded in his Scottish estates by his
two nephews, the children of his sisters, is in
direct contradiction to the assertion of Sir Bernard
Burke (Extinct and Dormant Baronetcies), that
Lieut.-Col. Sir William Arnot, who died in 1782,
left a son and heir, Sir William Arnot, who was
sixth and last baronet. Either ULSTER or J. M. A.
must be wrong. C. L.
" THAT SANGUINE FLOWER," &c. (5th S. i. 260.)
— The flower mentioned by Milton, in Lycidas, is
the Hyacinthus scriptus, L. Hyacinthus, the son
of Amyclas and Diomede, was killed whilst play-
ing at throwing disks (solid quoits) with Apollo.
He, in his grief, changed the blood pouring out
from Hyacinth's forehead into a hyacinth with
flowers of purple hue, and on whose leaves are
written the letters AI, AI (woe, woe). The epithet
"sanguine" is thus explained. The plant does
not grow wild here (only the Hyacinthus non-
scriptus is found here), but it is frequently found in
Germany. Cf. Ovid, MetamorpJwses. A. B.
Doubtless the hyacinth of the ancients, what-
ever that may have been, often blue or white, but
sometimes approaching blood colour, said to have
sprung from the blood of Hyacinthos, or of Tela-
monian Ajax, and to have inscribed on its petals
the initial letters YA or AI, or the interjection cucu,
hence the epithets ypaTrra t>a/av#os, Theocr. 10,
28, " inscripti flores," Virg. Eel. iii. 106. It is
quite uncertain whether the flower was of the iri«
or gladiolus kind, or the larkspur, or what we call
the hyacinth. See Liddell and Scott, Lex., s. v.
VO.KIV&OS; Smith's Diet, of Bible, " colours, blue " ;
Sneaker's Commentary, vol. i. part i. p. 367.
J. T. F.
Hatfield Hall, Durham.
" Die quibus in terris inscripti nomina regum
Nascantur flores." Virg. Ed. iii. v. 106-7.
" Ipse suos gemitus foliis inscripsit et ai ai
Flos habet inscriptum," &c.
Ovid. Met. x. 215, 216.
" Littera communis mediis pueroque viroque
Inscripta est foliis ; bsec nominis, ilia querelae."
Ibid. xiii. 397-8.
These passages, if read with their contexts, do
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not leave any doubt that Milton alludes to the
hyacinth. If further illustration is desired, see
Pliny, lib. xxi. cap. 38, and John Martyn's Notes
on Virg. Georg. iv. 183, where much learning will
be found. C. S.
PLANT STAINED WITH BLOOD AT THE CRUCI-
FIXION (5th S. i. 300.) — This tradition attaches to
several plants with spotted leaves ; especially to
Orchis mascula, " which in Cheshire is called
Gethsemane, [and] is said to have been growing at
the foot of the cross, and to have received some
drops of blood on its leaves." — Quarterly Review,
July, 1863. JAMES BRITTEN.
British Museum.
The plant inquired for by T. W. W. is the
spotted persicaria (Polygonum persicaria), a hand-
some plant, abundant on waste lands. TENEOR.
The plant, the English name I do not know,
grows luxuriantly in the Belgian flax fields, where
the peasants call it " Roodselken." The leaves are
a bright green spotted with red.
CHARLES SWAINSON.
Highhurst Wood.
The plant is the arum, cuckoo-pint, or lords and
ladies, very abundant in April. The dark spots
on its leaves have a wonderful resemblance to
splashes of dried blood.
W. J. BERNHARD SMITH.
Temple.
The plant is doubtless the species of orchis
which in Cheshire is called " Gethsemane." It is
said to have been growing at the foot of the cross,
and to have received some drops of blood on its
leaves. Hence the dark stains by which they
bave ever since 'been marked. Some such legend
seems also to have been attached to the white
purple-stained flower of the wood sorrel, which
the early Italian painters occasionally place in the
foreground of their crucifixions. See Selections
Neiv and Old (Masters), p. 202.
JOHN CHURCHILL SIKES.
Lichfield House, Anerley.
ORONTIUS FIN^EUS (5th S. i. 249), or, in his ver-
nacular, Oronce Fine, the author of Quadrans
A strolabicus, was an eminent astronomer and
mathematician, born at Brian§on in 1494, and
died at Paris in 1555. From 1532 till his death
he was Professor of Mathematics in the Royal
College. He claimed to have discovered the
quadrature of the circle, and was the author of
some thirty or forty works enumerated in Lalande's
Biographic, Astronomique and elsewhere. Of his
collected works, there were three editions, in 1532,
1542, and 1556 respectively, besides an Italian
translation, published at Venice, in 1587. For
an account of him, see Rose's Biog. Diet,
also Chalmers's Biog. Diet. A more detailed
and interesting, as well as very full, account
of him will be found in Niceron's Histoire des
Hcfmmes Illustres, vol. xxxviii., pp. 184-201.
In addition to this latter, see, for original sources
of information, Thevet's Vies des Hommes Illustres;
Du Boulay's Historia Universitatis Parisiensis;
Launoy's Histoire du College de Navarre ; Rochas's
Biographic du Dauphine ; Gouget's Memoires sur
le College de France ; Delambre's Histoire de
I'Astronomie au Moyen-Age, &c.
GASTON DE BERNEVAL.
Philadelphia.
CENTENARIAN NEWSPAPERS (5th S. i. 285.)— In
MR. PINK'S list are one or two inaccuracies which
should be pointed out. For 1690, as date of the
establishment of the Edinburgh Gazette, read 1600.
(This paper was established " by Act of Parlia-
ment for general announcements," and has been
described as " the prototype of the press.") For
1705, Edinburgh Evening Courant, read 1689 or
90. For 1711, Newcastle " Chronicle," read
" Courant." Add to list Caledonian Mercury,
1720 ; Aberdeen Journal, 1746. J. MANUEL.
FLOGGING IN SCHOOLS (5th S. i. 284.) — Mr.
Browne writes : —
" The ingenious Dr. Wilkins was so convinced of the
injury done to education, and especially to the masters,
by the practice of flogging, that the writer of this
pamphlet heard him propose the device of an engine
to thrash the refractory boys, an idea which is certainly
worth the attention of American inventors."
Unless I am greatly mistaken, something of the
kind has been invented, and used, by our ingenious
American cousins. I have certainly read of slaves
being sent to the flogging mills, and have some
hazy idea of the instrument of torture ; but I
cannot refer to the work in which the account ap-
peared. Perhaps some of your readers may be able
to throw additional light on the matter. A. E.
Almondbury.
" PLAGAL " (5th S. i. 329.)— TENEOR will find
the etymology of this word in Webster's Dictionary
of the English Language (4th edit., by Goodrich,
and Porter), where it is said to be from Greek
TrAayios, sidewise, slanting, and French plagal.
In music, having the principal tones lying between
the fifth of the key and its octave, or twelfth. Said
of certain melodies or tunes, and opposed to
authentic plagal cadence, a cadence in which the
final chord on the tonic is preceded by the chord
on the sub-dominant. A. S» A.
Richmond.
Miss ELIZABETH POLACK (5th S. i. 288.)— This
Jewish lady was related to the late Sir Francis
Palgrave (Frank Cohen of Lord Byron's Notes on
M. Faliero), whose father died in my late mother's
house, and where, I believe, Miss E. Polack once
lodged, as she was a native, or resident, of Ports-
mouth or Southampton, if my memory does not
betray me. Let MR. R. INGLIS inquire of Mr.
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NOTES AND QUEBIES.
[5th S. I. MAY 23, 74.
Palgrave (? Palgrave Simpson) about Miss Polack's
biography. S. M. DRACH.
MR. INGLIS is no doubt aware of the novel
called St. Glair of the Isles, by Elizabeth Helme,
on which the play he refers to may be founded.
Probably Miss Polack was some relation of the
one mentioned in AUibone. OLPHAR HAMST.
SWAINSWICK, SOMERSET (5th S. i. 289.)— This
legend is given at some length in Egan's Walks
through Bath (1819), and at much greater length
in Wood's Description of Bath. The Historic
Guide to Bath (1864) relates the same history in
more modern language. These accounts differ in
some respects, the first stating that Bladud, in at-
tempting to fly, met his death by falling upon the
temple of Minerva, while the others state that he
fell upon the roof of Solsbury Church (4th S. xii.
517). I shall be glad to assist MR. POOLE in his
work of compilation. C. P. EDWARDS.
Clan Villa, Bath.
"JERUSALEM CONQUISTADA" (5th S. i. 288.)— W.
M. M.'s copy wants two leaves, one containing six
stanzas and the other containing one stanza on the
recto, and on the verso the colophon, with the date
of 1609, not 1619, Barcelona : but I presume it is
the edition intended by your correspondent. The
"xxxvi." he mentions is not the number of the
stanzas, but the printer's sign, xxx, 6.
J. F. M.
I have the Obras Sueltas de Lope de Vega,
Madrid, 1776-1779, 21 vols., 4to., the 14th and
15th of which contain the Jerusalem Conquistada.
The number of stanzas in libro xx. is 162, and the
155th ends with —
" Solo aquel lienzo que cortada avia."
Brunet gives 1609 as the date of the first edition
of the Jerusalem Conquistada. As the stanza is
36 in W. M. M.'s copy, its position must have
been changed, or the poem greatly lengthened in
later editions. H. B. C.
U. U. Club.
LUCIA VISCONTI, COUNTESS OF KENT (5th S.
i. 227, 373.) — I am greatly obliged to my good
friend TEWARS for the extract from Corio's Historie
Milanese, to which work I have no opportunity of
access. He must allow me, however, so far as the
Earl of Kent is concerned, to prefer Dugdale's (or
rather Stow's) date to Corio's, on the unquestion-
able authority of Lucia herself. She presented a
petition in 1421, in which she stated that Kent
guarded Henry IV. in his journey to Shrewsbury
(1403), joined with the Duke of Clarence in his
expedition to Sluys (1404), and made a grand
tournament in Smithfield (circ. Jan. 1, 1406), all
which events happened before his marriage with
her (Rot. Parl, iv. 143-5). Edmund, Earl of
Kent,. was born in 1382, and, if Corio's date be
accepted, he was so extremely precocious a young
gentleman as to have fought in a naval expedition,
overthrown his challenger in the lists, and run
deeply into debt, before he was three years old.
But what, then, did happen at Milan in October,
1384, in which Lucia was matrimonially concerned ?
I think it may reasonably be supposed that it was
the contract of marriage (afterwards annulled)
between Lucia and Louis II. of Anjou, King of
Sicily, first cousin of the reigning King of France.
Ingelram de Coucy, who had some years before
1384 broken faith with his father-in-law, and
resumed his French allegiance, was a most unlikely
person to be sent as ambassador from London, but
just the reverse from Paris. Corio probably found
no mention of the name of the bridegroom in the
record of 1384 ; and, finding that Lucia was after-
wards Countess of Kent, he jumped to the con-
clusion that it was to the Earl of Kent she was
then married. Why he imagined Kent to be a
son of Henry IV. is a harder knot to untie. Other
discrepancies might be noted, as, for instance, the
portion of 75,000 golden florins given with Lucia
in 1384, while in 1406 she was purchased at nearly
the same cost (70,000 florins) for Kent. The fact
that Coucy was " on his way to assist Louis of
Anjou " makes it the more likely that the solution
which I have suggested is the true one.
HERMENTRUDE.
SUPERSTITION OF WELSH COLLIERS (5th S. i.
383.) — A good deal has been said lately about the
relation between Slavonic and Gaelic superstitions.
With regard to MR. COLEMAN'S note on the ideas
of Welsh colliers as to female influence on their
day's work, I may mention that, in crossing the
government of Orenburg last year, I saw a com-
pany of girls " crossing my bows." My driver
pushed his horses into a gallop, with muttered
ejaculations against the women, but would have
failed in passing before them had they not stopped
and waited on the side of the road till I had
passed, calling out merrily that I owed them a
good turn for not spoiling my luck for the day.
ASHTON W. DlLKE.
DOUBLE KETURNS TO PARLIAMENT (5th S. i.
104, 153, 176, 257, 356.) — EBORACUM is wrong on
every point in his communication: — 1. Under
what he calls " the old act," which was the common
law, a returning officer might vote if he was a
voter, but not after the poll was closed, so that he
had no casting vote. Hence double, or even treble,
returns, as in a case at Knaresborough. 2. Under
the new law it is just the reverse of the old, and
of EBORACUM'S statement. A returning officer is
forbidden to vote at the poll. He has no vote by
virtue of his office, but if a voter, and in that case
only, must give a casting vote. 3. There was no
" alleged double return " at Thirsk. W. G.
5"> S. I. MAY 23, 74.]
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417
BUDA (5th S. i. 287, 374.)— The twin city of
Buda-Pest sits astride upon the Danube, Buda on
the south, Pest on the north. It is not Buda, but
Pest, of which the German Of en is a translation,
from the Bohemian pec (pronounced pets), an oven ;
peku, inf. pecy, I bake. H. W.
COL- IN CoL-Fox, &c. (5th S. i. 141, 211, 371.)
— MR. JESSE asks on what grounds I believe
" collie " to mean a bobtailed dog, and that the
tail of the shepherd's dog is commonly docked.
First, then, with respect to the meaning, the
Scotch to coll is to cut off an appendage, to poll
the hair, to snuff a candle ; and the Swedish Iculla
is used in the same sense. Hence kullet, kollut,
kollig, kullug (exactly corresponding in form to
our collie), hornless, polled, bald, wanting some
appendage proper to the kind, as a church without
a steeple — Rietz. In Norway Icolla is often used
as the proper name of a hornless cow, as Eaudkolla,
Graakolla, &c. The element hull has the same
signification in the Hessian kullarsch, a tailless
hen. It is clear, then, that the term collie might
well be applied to a docked dog. In the next
pkce, as to the tact of shepherd's dogs being
habitually so mutilated, I can only appeal to my
own earliest recollections as a boy in Staffordshire
sixty years ago, and occasionally in after life. I
must confess that the picture in Bewick rises up
against me ; but if the practice of docking shep-
herd's dogs lingers anywhere, it is sufficient to give
probability to the derivation. A younger friend,
to whom I appealed, says he is certainly familiar
with the fact (in Pembrokeshire), but he thinks it
is dying out of late years. What confirmed me
in my own belief in the derivation, was finding
that the term "Mutz," signifying a stump, is
in certain districts of Hesse a very common name
for a shepherd's dog, because, says Dr. Vilmar
(Idiotikon von Rurhessen), their tail is there gene-
rally docked ; and in consequence of this operation,
continued through a course of generations, they
are even born with a short tail.
The objection of MR. TEW is hardly consistent
with itself. He says it does not to his mind afford
any explanation of any of the compounds in ques-
tion, yet he admits that cold, is naturally used in
the metaphorical sense of " deadly," and that " a
deadly poison and a deadly iveapon are expressions
about as common as any among us." What occasion,
then, can he have to look further for an explanation
of col-knife or col-poison, at least 1 Cold prophet
is actually found as often as col-prophet, and is
sufficiently explained by the analogy of cold counsel,
bad counsel. Finally, he asks, What of the name
Colpepper? Surely that is to be understood as
Black pepper. Now, to my mind, Black pepper is
not a likely name for a man to acquire ; and if I
were to give a conjecture, I should explain it as
cull-pepper, one who picks pepper, analogous to
Pillgarlick, one who picks garlick; Culpepper
being the most usual form of the name.
H. WEDGWOOD.
"REALIZING THE SIGNS OF THOUGHT "(4th S.
xii. 472 ; 5th S. i. 115.)— The following extract
from Faith Gartney's Girlhood, a tale by an
American lady (Mrs. Adeline Whitney), may be
interesting to HERMENTRUDE, as tending to con-
firm her idea as to the formation of thought-shapes
being a property exclusively feminine. A lady
and gentleman are comparing their ideas of
figures in the abstract : he says, —
" ' Do you fancy the figures, from one to one hundred,
ranged in three sides of a parallelogram, with the tens
a little taller than the rest, and the corners turned some-
where about twenty and eighty]' . . . 'That is so
strange,' she exclaimed. ' But why do you turn those
sharp corners ? My numbers stand round in a smooth
semicircle.' . . . ' The difference of minds,' said he.
' Yours seems to be spherical ; mine, angular.' ' Then
there are the days and the months,' said she. . . .
'Really,' said he, 'the days and months are nowhere,
except as the globe measures them out in space, and the
sunlight scores them between the poles ; but I see them
stretching out, before and after, in little oblong mosaics,
set in lines, for weeks and years.' 'And the Sundays a
little longer and wider and whiter than the rest,' said
she, ' and the nights are the broad, black spaces
between.' 'I think,' said he, 'my nights are steps
down from one day to another, and of no perceptible
length or colour.' " — P. 122.
TENEOR.
THE SUNFLOWER (5th S. i. 165, 256.)— Thanks
to CUTHBERT BEDS for his corroborative note.
However, I am by no means convinced that there
is a "popular fallacy" in the popular idea, so
beautifully embodied in the lines quoted by CUTH-
BERT BEDE. The notion is a very ancient one.
As a cultivator of the helianthos=sunflower, I have
watched the blooms, and in a majority of cases I
find that they really do turn to the sun. But that
is a peculiarity by no means confined to the
helianthos ; many 'flowers, particularly corymbi-
ferous ones, do the same thing. The French call
the plant tournesol, but I am not aware of any
other country where the name is connected with
turning. The old Greek name was 77 Ai'av&os, said to
be derived from the Peruvian or Egyptian appella-
tion. The German name is Sonncnblume, answering
to our sunflower.
The French encyclopaedists say that the form of
the vessel which contains the Host in Catholic
worship originated from the golden or brazen
sun which (surrounded by natural sunflowers)
occupied the centre of the high altar in the temples
of the Parsees or fire-worshippers. The Egyptians
represented the sun with wings ; and the metaphor
of a sun with healing in its wings is probably
derived from a knowledge of the sanitary qualities
of the sunflower. A MURITHIAN.
ROYAL HEADS ON BELLS (4th S. ix. 76, 250,
309 ; xii. 85, 235.)— On the third bell at Spetchley,
418
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[5* 8. 1. MAT 23, 74.
near Worcester, there are two heads, the one like
that generally thought to be Edward I., but the
other is too indistinct to make out. The letters
of the inscription are small, all having crowns on
them. The initial cross I have not met with
before either on other bells or engraved in any
book, but it is very similar to one in Mr. Ella-
combe's book (page 50, fig. 21).
Query, what founder used for his mark a bell
between the letters I. M. enclosed in a heart 1 I
have always found it in Worcestershire. Was it
John Martin of Worcester ?
HENRY T. TILLEY.
Caius Coll., Cambridge.
OXBERRY'S "DRAMATIC BIOGRAPHY" (5th S. i.
247, 375.) — If Duncombe published a work bear-
ing this title, he certainly was not concerned in
the original, and, as I had hitherto supposed, only
issue, which bears the name of George Virtue, Ivy
Lane, Paternoster Row. It would seem to have
appeared at first in parts, beginning on Saturday,
January 1, 1825, the volume being completed by
Number XVI. on the 16th April ; subsequently in
volumes, as the date at the commencement of each
biography is discontinued.
I have five volumes, three dated 1825, and two
the following year, but "whether this is an entire
set I do not know.
The work was edited by the widow of Oxberry,
the well-known comedian, who, as stated in the
advertisement, " had devoted much of his time to
the attainment of information necessary for the
production of true biography of our most celebrated
performers." The books are 12mo., and each bio-
graphy is illustrated by a portrait.
CHARLES WYLIE.
PETER MEW, BISHOP OF BATH AND WELLS (5th
S. i. 247, 294.)— There is a portrait of this bishop
at Farnham Castle, the episcopal residence of the
bishops of Winchester. He is represented standing
in the Garter robes, with a black skull cap on his
head, and a patch on his cheek. A battle is going
on in the background. C. S.
" HOW THEY BROUGHT THE GOOD NEWS FROM
GHENT TO Aix " (5th S. i. 71, 174, 298) :—
" Nothing that any war history records can be more
spirited, thrilling, and picturesque than Captain Sartorius's
adventurous and, in many respects, unparalleled ride. The
•very narrative of it by our Special Correspondent sets the
pulses beating, and ought to have been composed on the
gallop, as Mr. Browning's poem about the bringing of the
' Good News ' is said to have been."— Daily News, 12th
March, 1874.
T. W. C.
BARDOLF OF WIRMEGAY (5th S. i. 227, 293.)—
I am greatly obliged to HERMENTRUDE for the
replies she has kindly given to my queries, and ]
shall be thankful, being away from references, i:
she will take the trouble to answer the following
additional questions which arise out of those re-
plies.
Where did Thomas, the elder son of Hugh Lord
Bardolf, die ] Who was the wife of William, the
younger son, and when did he die ?
HERMENTRUDE gives the death of John Lord
Bardolf as on July 31, 1363. The continuator of
Blomefield, following Dugdale (I believe), and
referring to Ex. 45 Edw. III. n. 7, says he died
Aug. 3, 1371, leaving William his son and heir,
then aged fourteen (Hist, of Norf. vii. 497). I
aave no doubt that the former date is the correct
one, and that William was then aged fourteen. If
so, he would be just of age to take livery of his
iands in 1371, to which event the latter date
probably refers. I shall b'e glad to have this con-
jecture verified. G. A. C.
The genealogical history of the Lords Bardolfe
was written in detail by Mr. Stapleton, the ablest
of English genealogists, and is prefixed to his edi-
tion of the Liber de Antiquis Legibus, printed by
the Camden Society. This excellent book seems
to be less appreciated than it deserves, as it can
be bought at most booksellers' for about three
shillings, although it is intrinsically worth far
more than some genealogical works wh,ich fetch
five times as many pounds. G. A. C. will be able
to answer his own queries if he consults this book ;
but he is so wide of the mark, that the answers
would occupy much space in " N. & Q."
TEWARS.
BAR SINISTER (5th S. i. 268, 314.)— It is curious
to see MR. WARREN, at this date, gravely referring
to those ridiculous " abatements," or marks of dis-
grace, which, though given in " most good treatises
of heraldry," are justly styled by the learned
French herald, Menetrier, " Sottises Anglaises ! "
There is not a single instance upon record of the
use of one of these " abatements " for the reason
assigned in English armoury. It is contrary to
common-sense to suppose that any man would
bear on his escutcheon of honour marks intended
to indicate to every beholder that the bearer had
behaved disgracefully,— had " uncourteously ei-
treated a lady, or had slain a prisoner in war."
Such " abatements " existed only, with much other
folly, in the silly noddles of the ancient writers on
heraldry.
The only abatements really in use were those
indicative of illegitimacy; and it is abundantly
clear that in mediaeval times illegitimate descent
from princes and nobles was not considered by
any means a thing on account of which 'a man
needed to blush.
Neither is it at all correct to make the very
sweeping assertion that the bordure is used as a
mark of illegitimacy. The bordure, pure and
simple, is not so used ; but the bordures gobone
and wavy have been, and still are. I am sorry
5th S. I. MAY 23, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
419
that the much regretted death of ME. J. G.
NICHOLS, and the consequent discontinuance of
the Herald and Genealogist, have prevented the
publication, in that periodical, of the paper I
wrote for it upon heraldic marks of illegitimacy,
and which he had hoped to print long ere this
time. In it I have collected examples of the
many modes in which illegitimate descent has
been denoted, during the past seven centuries, in
Great Britain and on the Continent.
The subject is one of much interest, and is,
moreover, one on which most " good treatises of
heraldry " evince a considerable amount of igno-
rance ; so that I hope my essay, inadequate as it
may be, may yet find a permanent abiding place,
and assist in hastening the time when " bars sinis-
ter " and " abatements " will be dismissed to their
proper place, the limbo of exploded popular errors.
J. WOODWARD.
Of course such a term is ridiculous nonsense.
I never met with it. The proper term for the
heraldic mark of illegitimacy is " bend sinister."
STEPHEN JACKSON.
WINE IN SMOKE (5th S. i. 246, 295.)— On these
words cf. Neale's and Littledale's Commentary on
the Psalms, vol. iv. p. 75. Both the LXX. and
the Vulgate in Psalm cxix. 83 read frost for smoke;
and accordingly old writers comment upon the
meaning of the word frost; but the English ver-
sion here, as in several other instances in the
Psalms, is nearer the Hebrew than either the
LXX. or the Vulgate. H. A. W.
THOMAS FRYE (5th S. i. 269, 316.)— The fol-
lowing is a list of his most celebrated portraits : —
Leveridge, the celebrated singer ; His Majesty
George III. ; the Queen ; his own portrait ; that
of his wife ; the famous Miss Pond ; Frederick,
Prince of Wales. Pilkington's Dictionary of
Painters states that he died in April, 1862.
FREDERICK OVERTON.
Colton, near Leeds.
GAME OF STOBALL (4th S. xii. 516 ; 5th S. i. 34,
179.) — I am much obliged to those correspondents
of " N. & Q." who have replied to my inquiry. I
have no doubt the game is that described in
Aubrey's Natural History of Wilts, as quoted by
Halliwell, and that it is a form of the Scottish
game of golf. Stoball seems to have quite died
out in the West of England, but the boys still
play a game called rounders, which may be a
childish variety of it. I believe stool-ball, from
Strutt's description of it, to be quite a different
game. J. H. COOKE.
JOHN FROBEN (5th S. i. 147, 218.)— The arms
cut on the back of the panel, upon which the
portrait of Froben is painted, are those of the cele-
brated French family of Colbert, and probably
those of Jean Baptiste Colbert, the illustrious
statesman in the reign of Louis XIV.
A W. M.
Leeds.
SIR JOHN RERESBY'S " MEMOIRS " (5th S. i.
168, 219.) — Since troubling you with the above
query, I find that the liveries of the Stuarts were
red and yellow. This house being held in con-
tempt at this time in France, the Queen seems to
have asked Sir John not to allow his friend to
wear those colours, even in compliment to herself,
as they might lead to his being insulted. It would
be interesting to learn whether the adoption of red
and yellow as " Tom Fool's Colours" was intended
as an insult to the House of Stuart.
J. C. CLOUGH.
Tiverton.
BEZIQUE (5th S. i. 167, 233, 357.)— The term
Bazzica occurs in an Italian dictionary in my
possession of a much earlier date than the one
mentioned by M. H. E. It is thus defined : —
" Una spezie di giuoco di carte." I append the
title of the work itself : —
" Dizionnrio Italiano, Latino, e Francese ; in cui si
contiene non solamente un Compendio de Dizionario della
Crusca ; ma ancora tutto ci6, che v' ha di piii rimmar-
chevole ne' migliori Lessicografi, Etimologisti, e Glossarj,
usciti fin ora alia luce in diverse lingue ; Raccolto dall'
Abbate Annibale Antonini, quinta Edizione, Riveduta,
corretta, e notabilmente accresciuta. Tomo Primo. In
Venezia Presso Francesco Pitteri, MDCCLXI. Con Licenza
de' Superior!, e privilegio."
J. T.
FULLER'S " PISGAH-SIGHT OF PALESTINE":
RANCKE-RIDERS (5th S. i. 203, 271, 316.)— Dekker,
in his 0 per se 0, 1612, describes rancke-riders as
" horsemen running up and down the kingdom,
ever in a gallop, their business weighty, their
journeys many, their expenses great, their inns
everywhere, their lands nowhere." They lived by
cheating innkeepers. The borrowers of mine host
of the Garter's horses (Merry Wives of Windsor)
were rancke-riders. When Bardolph is asked
where the horses are, he replies —
" Run away with the cozeners ; for so soon as I came
beyond Eton, they threw me off from behind one of
them, in a slough of mire ; and set spurs and away, like
three German devils, three Doctor Faustuses."
Then Sir Hugh comes in with —
" Have a care of your entertainments : there is a friend
of mine come to town, tells me, there is three cousin
germans, that has cozened all the hosts of Readings, of
Maidenhead, of Colebrook, of horses and money."
B. S.
GEORGE I. AT LYDD (5th S. i. 144, 215, 296.)—
See Universal Magazine, vol. Ixxiv. p. 301. I
should much like to have references to any further
particulars of the king's reception, &c., at Hythe.
HARDRIC MORPHYN.
420
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5th S. I. MAY 23, 74.
NOTES ON BOOKS, &c.
Boswelliana. The Common-Place Book of James Boswell.
With a Memoir and Annotations by the Rev. C.
Rogers, LL.D., and Introductory Remarks by the
Rt. Hon. Lord Houghton. (Printed for the Grampian
Club.)
THANKS to Lord Houghton, we have here one of those
books that may emphatically be called " readable." It
seems that Boswell used to set down the stories that he
heard on loose sheets, which he kept in a portfolio. At
his death, this collection was sold, and, in course of time,
it came into the hands of a great collector of literary
curiosities and treasures, Lord Houghton. His lordship
has permitted the Grampian Club to print it, and he has
written a graceful introduction to the text. Dr. Rogers
has edited the "Ana." He has prefaced the Ana by a
Memoir of Boswell, which extends to 200 of the 330
pages in the volume. The whole, however, is edited
with care. Here is one little brick as a sample of the
whole edifice : — " When Derrick was made King of Bath,
Mr. Samuel Johnson said : ' Deny may do very well
while he can outrun his character ; but the moment his
character gets up with him, he is gone.' ''
Studies of Man. By a Japanese. (Triibner.)
WITHOUT contradiction, this book is both logical and
illogical, true and fallacious. It is a book statesmen
should read, but with their Bible open. Let the author
learn to distinguish between religion and its abuses, and
a second volume would be a public boon. Christians of
every denomination must close the present book with
regret and pain. To secure a perfect well-being, we are
instructed, morality must be more widely taught, and
this morality must not be associated with any known
religion whatever. We can relish being advised " to edu-
cate the young and cultivate in them a love of truth, a
thirst for knowledge, and a readiness to abandon errors
and correct mistakes," " to insinuate knowledge into a
space preoccupied with prejudice and superstition," " to
keep in view the disgrace which awaits those who neglect
opportunities of qualifying themselves not to become
paupers "; "to secure that every child should catch by
inspiration the aifection of its teacher," &c. But " A
Japanese," who is about to return home and publish his
thoughts, will, of course, remember to tell his country-
men that Englishmen do at least believe in the cardinal
doctrines of Christianity, and " have confidence in ability
to construct a basis " for education.
LEYDEN, famous alike for brave and learned men, is
about to fittingly celebrate the tercentenary of the
foundation of its renowned University, by publishing an
Album of the Students at Ley den, 1575-1875. As the
alumni came from all parts of the civilized world, a
register of their names, birthplaces, and dates of entry,
will probably be of great value. The work will be published
by Nijhoff, at the Hague.
BOOKS AND ODD VOLUMES
WANTED TO PURCHASE.
Particulars of Price, &c., of the following books to be sent direct to
the persons by whom they are required, whose names and addresses are
given for that purpose :—
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ILLUSTRATED LONDON NEWS. August 27, 1859.
Wanted by E. E. Porter, Eeg., 41, Westbourne Park Road, W.
LISZT'S Life of Chopin. Translated into English.
Wanted by B. L. Moiely, 55, Taviatock Square.
flotittti to
LYNE. — John Asgill was not a clergyman. He was a
successful lawyer, who was expelled from the Irish
Parliament on the ground of his being the author of
An Argument proving that according to the Covenant of
Eternal Life, revealed in the Scriptures, Man may lie
translated from hence without passing through Death.
This book, serious and earnest, was deemed blasphemous,
and Asgill was held to be too bad for an Irish Parliament.
In 1705, however, Bramber returned him to the English
House of Commons, but for the above alleged offence he
was also expelled from that assembly. Nothing can
better show the popularity of the book than the reference
made to it on the stage, which all then could understand.
In Mrs. Centlivre's Busy Body, Sir Jealous Traffic says
to Patch, " A man may as safely trust to Asgill's trans-
lation, as to his great -grandmother's not marrying
again."
G. E. — In the edition of the Bible now in course of
publication by Mr. Murray, with commentary and re-
visions by several prelates, and edited by the Rev. P. C.
Cook, Canon of Exeter, there is a note on Job xxxix.
20 (" Canst thou make him " (the war-horse) " afraid as
a grasshopper]") in these words : " or make him SPRING
. . ." The word does not describe leaping, but the
terrible rush at the moment of charging ; the combina-
tion of the utmost lightness with the greatest force.
C. W. WARD. — The grave of Edmund Kean is near
the western portal of old Richmond Church, near the
tablet stone which bears the player's medallion portrait
arid the inscription, which states that, at the time of the
great actor's decease in 1833, he was "aged 46."
J. M. — No official report, as far as we are aware, was
ever made ; but there are not two opinions in regard to
the picture.
A CONSTANT READER. — Westminster School is a Royal
Foundation, and on the day referred to the elections to
Christ Church and Trinity College were declared.
H. C. BOWEN. — Consult Dr. Latham's edition of
Johnson's Dictionary.
J. BORRAJO.— See p. 156 of the present volume of
"N. & Q."
B.— Dean Alford gives no such interpretation to the
word.
A PEDIGREE HUNTER should write to the author of the
article he has been studying.
Q. Q. (p. 329).— We have a letter for you.
WICCAMICUS. — " Rara avis," &c., Ovid.
J. T. F. — Thanks for suggestion.
J. C. AND E. R. W.— Forwarded to W. H. P. and Q. Q.
ERRATA. — P. 361 (2nd col.), for "sprouk" and
" sproug," read spronTc and sprong.
NOTICE.
Editorial Communications should be addressed to " The
Editor " — Advertisements and Business Letters to " The
Publisher "—at the Office, 20, Wellington Street, Strand,
London, W.C.
We beg leave to state that we decline to return com-
munications which, for any reason, we do not print ; and
to this rule we can make no exception.
To all communications should be affixed the name and
address of the sender, not necessarily for publication, but
as a guarantee of good faith.
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LONDON, SATURDAY, MAY 30, 1874.
CONTENTS. — N« 22.
NOTES :— Spelling Reforms, 421— Old Postal Addresses, 422—
The Australian Drama— Plays on "Play," 423— Therf Cake-
Demerit — Epitaphs— Pun— Henry Masers de la Tude, 424 —
Cornish Libraries — Extracts from an Old Magazine — The
Queen's English— Houbraken, the Engraver— The " Dial "
System of Telegraphy, 425— Dr. Guillotin— Parallel Passages,
426.
QUERIES :— Jewish Dish. 426— Folk-Lore of the Hare— Lunar
Rainbow — Columbus — Varia, 427— Descriptive Catalogues—
Rev. G. Hamilton— Translation Wanted— Dates Wanted—
Spechyns— Quoits— M. de Bodelschwingh— Topography of
Northumberland— Paintings — "The Wanderings of Persiles
and Sigismunda"— Rigby, Paymaster of the Forces in 1768—
Songs in " Rokeby "—The "Silver Oar," 428—" The two and
thirty Palaces " — Early American Book — Van Eyck's ' ' Adora-
tion of the Lamb," 429.
REPLIES:— The DobrSes of Guernsey, 429 — The Scottish
Family of Edgar — " Toledoth Jeshu, " 430 — The Book of
Jasher, 431 — A Poem by Praed — A New Object of Taxation
—"A Town Eclogue"— The Egg and the Halfpenny, 432—
" Man-a-lost " — Why Adam means North, South, East and
West — " Circumstance, that Unspiritual God" — St. Catherine
of Sienna, 433— Average Duration of Human Life— Arms of
Stamford — F. Rolleston — Surrey Provincialisms — Gipsies,
434— "Draid"— "Palliser's Hell "—The House of Gib—
" The Althorpe Picture Gallery," &c.— Comet of 1539— Field
Telegraphy— Charles I. as a Poet, 435— Picot of Cambridge—
Dr. Isaac Barrow— Lowndes, 436— Jay : Osborne — "Simp-
son " — A. H. Rowan, 437 — Life and Opinions of Padre Sarpi
—Soda Water— Rev. Stephen Clarke— The Faroe Islands—
The Waterloo and Peninsular Medals, 438—" A heavy blow
and great discouragement " — The Cuckoo and Nightingale —
"Town's Hall" — " See one Physician " — " Percy, the Trunk-
maker," 439.
Notes on Books, &c.
SPELLING REFORMS.
The difficulty and absurdity of our spelling have
long been a very general complaint, and those who
interest themselves in education will bear witness
that spelling is the greatest of all stumbling-blocks
in examinations. Many devices have been sug-
gested to remedy or relieve the difficulty, but no
system hitherto projected has found favour with
the general public.
In all spelling reforms three things are essential :
(1.) Nothing must be done to render our existing
literature antiquated and unreadable. (2.) No-
thing must be done to render etymology more
obscure and intricate. (3.) Nothing must be done
which would make the task of learning to read
more laborious and perplexing.
Keeping these three points in view, much, very
much, might be done to make our spelling more
uniform and simple ; and there is no organ so fit for
the good work as " N. & Q.," not only because it is
read by the most learned scholars of the nation,
but because it has gained public confidence and
commands universal respect.
If your readers and correspondents take an
interest in the subject, I purpose to introduce,
from time to time, papers on " Spelling Keforms."
Those suggestions which are generally approved
may, by the authority of " N. & Q.," be gradually
introduced; the rest will fall through into the
limbo of good intentions.
1. The first suggestion is to reduce to one pat-
tern every word derived from the Latin cedo (to
go). For this purpose we have only three words
to alter. They are printed in italics: accede,
antecede, concede, excede, intercede, precede, pro-
cede, recede, secede, succede. Why exceed, proceed,
and succeed, should deviate from the other seven
words is a mystery, and certainly this reform
would not in any wise militate against the three
cardinal rules stated above.
2. The next suggestion is to restore the e to the
words abridgment, acknowledgment, and judgment.
We have 120 words ending in e mute, which
take the suffix -ment, such as advancement, ar-
rangement, discouragement, enticement, refinement,
&c., all of which retain the e, and I know of no
sufficient reason for its omission in the three words
above mentioned.
3. The next class of words is somewhat larger,
and it would be as difficult to say how they are
generally spelt, as to determine what is the pre-
vailing colour of the chameleon. I refer to e mute
before the suffixes -able and -ible. Some write
mistaJcable, others mistaheable, some proveable, and
others provable. Nay, what is far worse, some
dictionaries give moveable with the "e," and re-
movable without it ; improvable without it, and
its negative unimproveable with it. Certain words
are almost invariably written with the e mute, as
changeable, chargeable, damageable, manageable,
peaceable, serviceable, &c., while others as generally
appear without it, as adorable, advisable, blamable,
consolable, declinable, pleasurable, and so on. No-
thing can be worse than this indecision, and cer-
tainly uniformity in every class of words is most
devoutly to be wished. As every change in a
word adds to the difficulty of spelling, I advise
that every word ending in e mute should retain it
under all conditions, unless the part added begins
with e, then the two might merge into one : thus,
if the word is move, I would write moveable, move-
ables, moveableness, moveably, movement, moveing,
moveingly, removeing, removeable, removeal, but
mover, moved, remover, removed, &c. There are
180 words ending in e mute which admit the
suffix -able; and twenty-eight which take the
suffix -ible. Of these, in the dictionary I happen
to consult, fifty-three with the suffix -able retain
the e, and 127 reject it ; of those in -ible no ex-
ample is given with the e retained. If this is to
be accepted as any authority, who is sufficient for
these things 1 Any uniform rule would be better
than such uncertainty.
4. The same class of words deserves further
notice. Why have we the two suffixes -able, and
-ible ? We have altogether 672 words which take
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[5th S. I. MAY 30, 74.
the suffix -able, and 208 which take the suffix -ille.
Why not abolish the latter suffix altogether ? The
word able happens to be an English word as well
as a Latin suffix, and its sense explains the force
of the suffix; this is an advantage of no mean
amount. Of course it will be answered that -able
indicates that the Latin verb which furnishes us
with the adjective is of the first conjugation, and
-ible shows us at a glance that the verb borrowed
is one of the other three conjugations. This surely
is a very slip-shod rule. To make it of any value,
a third suffix, -eble, is manifestly required. But
worthless as the rule is, it is by no means to be
depended on. A large number of words ending
in able have no corresponding Latin verb ; and of
those directly, or indirectly, from the Latin, not a
few are of the second, third, and fourth conjugations.
Take, for example, the following, which are direct
from the Latin. Acquirable (acquirere), admittable
(admittere), attainable (attinere), attributable (at-
tribuere), conceivable (concipere), consumable (con-
sumere), convenable (convenire), creditable (credere),
deceivable (decipere), defendable (defendere), de-
finable (definire), deludable (deludere), dividable
(dividere), distinguishable (distinguere), extin-
guisJiable (extinguere), increasable (increscere),
movable (movere), mixable (miscere), obtainable
(obtinere), perceivable (percipere), persuadable
(persuadere), preferable (prteferre), redeemable (re-
dimere), tenable (tenere), receivable (recipere), re-
movable (rem.ove]ce),requirable (requirere), sufferable
(sufferre), supposable (supponere), sustainable (sus-
tinere), transferable (transferre), and several others.
Of those indirectly derived, take the following
examples : advisable (ad-visere), assailable (assi-
lire), available (a-valere), nourishable (nutrire),
perishable (perire), pleasurable (placere), punishable
(punire), &c.
This long list is very far from exhausting the
anomalous words, and such a blind guide can be
of no real value. There can be no doubt that one
suffix would greatly simplify spelling. To the
mere English writer, no reason exists why every
third word should be spelt with an i instead of
with an a ; and to those who know Latin, the forty
or fifty words given above must remain a perplexity
till habit or memory has stereotyped on the brain
the wrong spelling. If fifty to a hundred words of
the last three conjugations are generally received
into the first category, why not admit the remain-
ing 200?
These four suggestions will suffice for one paper.
If the readers of " N. & Q." take an interest in
the subject, and will lend their invaluable help, I
will, with permission, return to the subject, as
soon as the hints given above have been duly
ventilated. E. COBHAM BREWER.
Lavant, Chicbester.
OLD POSTAL ADDRESSES.
The following addresses of letters are taken from
" Mrs. Marg* & Ellin Cutler, their Household Book,
1714," daughters of Sir Gervase Cutler, knight, of
Stainborough, in the parish of Silkstone, Yorkshire.
They are curious as showing by what methods the
London and country postmen were guided in the
distribution of letters at that period : —
" This, for Mr. Baradale, y° Merser, att y" seven star?
and naked Boy on Ludgate Hill, London.
" This, for Mrs. Wainman, the Mantow maker, next
doore to yc Taueron in Southamton street.
" This, for Mrs. Taylor, ye Semstres, att y° Shipp and
Ball in Pucney Lane, or att Exiter Chaing, yc second shop
at yr left hand from the middle doore.
"This, for Mrs. Tempest, ye Milliner, att y° Green
Flower potts, near y° Garter Taueron, in ye Pelmell.
" This, for Mr. Clancey, in Catherin street, next dor to
ye sine of ye Cherry Tree, in Common Garden.
" This, for Mrs. Barbrey, att her housin Gracs inLan,
near Bell Courtt.
" This, for Mr. Deale, ye Confaxsouner, in Lasttor
Feld.
" This, for Mr. Balle, att y° sin of ye Balle, in ye
Nuaxschang.
" This, for Mrs. Guttler, att Mr. Curtors in Nutors
stret, over agaunst ye Wach Hous, in High Holborn.
" To Mrs. Foljambe, att Alowarke, present.
"This, for Mrs. Gandroone y° Embrothery Woman, att
ye Wheat Sheaff, in Longaker.
" This, for my Brother's att ye.BellInnein Houlburne.
" This, for Coll: Frankland, att Ornsby, near Louth, in
Lincolneshear. Put this Lattor of att Stanford.
" This, for Henrey Guttler Esqr, att Hayton, near Pop-
lenton, by Yourk. To be left att Doc' Thonsoun.
" This, for Mrs. Guttler, att Mr. Smiths in Richmonds,
in Neubiging.
" This, for Mrs. Rutherford, in Ipswich, in Suffolk, by
London, p" pd 3d.
" This, for Mrs. Bowler, in Barnsley.
" This, for Mrs. Cleatton, att Burking, by Fearebreig,
by Yourk.
" This, for Mrs. Wright, att Brighous, near Sheffeld.
To bee put of att Donkcastor.
" This, for Mr. Thomas Wright, attorney att Low, in
Brigg House near Sheffeld.
" This, for Mr. Gascoigne, An Apotheycery in Sheffield.
" This, for Mr. Adams, at Banketope, near Barnsley,
in Yorkshire.
" This, for Mrs. Jane Palmer, in Lincolne, near the
Minsttor Yeard. Tyndale. pst pcl 4a.
'•' This, for Mrs. Beack, att a Under Teackors in Hcul-
bourn, ouor ageanst Tourn still, London.
" This, for yc Reuarand Mr. Watts, att Barns Hall,
near Sheffield.
" This, for Henery Guttler Esqr, att Hayton, near
Poclinton. to bee laft att ye Post House in Yourk.
" This, for Mrs. Guttler, att Sor Edward Hussey's, att
Wallburne in Lincolnesher.
" This, for Coll: Frankland, att the Lord Castellton att
Ormesby, — to bee left att the post hous in Home Castell,
Lincolneshear. pst p'1 4d.
" This, for Mr. Thomas Wright, Attorney att Lowe, in.
Sheffeild. p"p«4d.
" To William Jessop Esqf, Member of Parliamant, in
Esick Street, London.
" To Mrs. Sarah Bea.ke, next doore to ye Blew Ball in
Bromly street, neare Holeburn, London.
" This, for Mr. Goodwin, att Bottore.
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" This, for Mrs. Smith, att Mr. Archdales, in Yissett.
•to bee laft att Ihon Blakborns in Barnsley.
" This, for Coll. Frankland, att A stationars in Boolms-
ibury, att the signe of the Legg, London."
CHARLES JACKSOX.
Doncaster.
THE AUSTRALIAN DRAMA.
Allow rne to send you a list of names (though a
very imperfect one) of the dramatic writers of
Australia, &c. I give the authors' names in alpha-
betical order: —
Akhurst, W. M., author of Holla of Ours, Mirror of
Beauty, &c., performed at Melbourne about 1856.
Boerhave, W., author of The DukeofFriedland, a play,
published at Melbourne, 1866.
Brown, W. M., author of Woman and her Master, a
play, acted at Ballarat, 1859 ?
Burn, I)., author of Poems and Plays, published at
Hobart Town, 1842 or 1843.
Capper, Richard, author of Nimrod, the Mighty Hunter,
•a drama in 5 acts, Melbourne, 1868, also many other
dramas.
Clarke, Marcus, author of Foul Play, a drama, adapted
from the English version, acted in Melbourne, 186S.
Cooper (W. 1), Mr., author of Sun and Shadoio, a drama,
acted in Sydney, New South Wales, 1870.
Darling, T. B., a Scotch gentleman formerly resident
in Melbourne, author of Fifty per Cent., a dramatic piece,
performed in Melbourne about 1854-5.
D'Emden, H. J., author of Willy O'Meara, a new
drama, acted at Melbourne, 1868.
Edwards, Mr., author of localisations and adaptations
of Purjuet with the Tujt, a pantomime performed in Mel-
bourne, 1873.
Farjeon, B. L., author of Legend of the Golden Fleece,
and Faust, two burlesque dramas, Dun Edin, New Zea-
land, 1865?
Foster, W,, born 1818 at Madras, author of The Devil
and the Governor, a satiric drama, printed in The A tlas,
1844. See G. B. Barton's Literature of New SouthWales.
Fowler, Frank, died 22 Aug., 1863, author of Eva, a
drama, performed at Sydney, in or about 1856 1
Harpur, C., author of The Bushranger, a play, Sydney,
New South Wales, 1853.
Home, R. H. Mr. Home -is author of one or two
dramas published in Australia. I forget the titles. Date
•about 1866.
Hough, G. Scott, author of Cataralzaman and Bedoura,
•& dramatic piece, Melbourne, 1859.
Isaac, George, author of Our Uncle, a farce, performed
by amateurs at Adelaide, South Australia, 8th June, 1867.
Jafiray, W., author of The Gladiator of Ravenna, a
drama, translated from the German, Melbourne, 1865.
Murray, Arch., author of Forged, a life drama, Sydney,
^. 8. W., 1873.
Nagel, C., author of The Mock Catalani in Little Pud-
dleton, a musical burlesque, Sydney, 1843.
Nield, Dr., author of a Dramatic Sketch, an epilogue,
performed by amateurs at Melbourne, 1866.
Poore, F. H., Lieutenant Royal Marines, author of
'Crossing the Line, a musical drama, performed on board
the Galatea, in Sydney Harbour, on 30th March, 1869.
Smith, James, of the Melbourne Argus, author of
Garibaldi, a drama, 1860.
Strong, H. A., author of The Captives, of Plautus, in
English, Melbourne, 1872.
Tolf'rey, H., author and adapter of the words, and com-
poser of the music, of Ruth, an oratorio, performed, I
think, in 1868, in the colony of Victoria.
Walsh, Gordon, author of Blue Beard, a pantomime,
acted in Melbourne, Jan., 1873.
Whitehead, Charles, author of The Spanish Marriage,
a dramatic story, in Victorian Magazine, July, 1859.
Whitworth, It. P., author of Maximilian of Mexico, a
drama, acted in 1867, at Melbourne.
Anonymous dramas : —
1. Enderby, a drama. Melbourne, 1866 or 1867 1
2. In Peter Possum's Portfolio, Sydney, 1858, a trans-
lation of The Syracusan Gossips of Theocritus.
3. The South Sea Sisters, a dramatic cantata, music by
Mr. Horsley, date about 1866.
4. Orvina, a drama, published in or about 1862 [at
Auckland, New Zealand]].
5. This World and the Next, a dramatic poem, Mel-
bourne, 1873.
Perhaps some of your Australian readers may
be able to inform me who are the authors of the
anonymous dramas. E. INGLIS.
Edinburgh.
PLAYS ON " PLAY." — An article in the
Athenceum, No. 2414, Jan. 31, 1874, upon Le
Demon du Jeu of MM. T. Barriere and Crisafulli,
gives a hasty recapitulation of the leading plays
suggested by gaming. Permit me to add a few
particulars. Kegnard's Joueur, the paternity of
which was also claimed by Dufresny, served as
the basis of Mrs. Centlivre's Gamester. Le Dissi-
pateur ; ou, I'Honnete Friponne of Destouches was
suggested in turn by Mrs. Centlivre's Gamester;
if I am to believe the essay De I' Art de la Comedie,
iv., p. 211, by M. de Cailhava, Paris, 1772, it is
also indebted to Shakspeare's Timon of Athens. I
do not doubt that the Dissipaieur has been again
adapted into English. Perhaps the myriad-minded
readers of " N. & Q." can tell me when and by
whom. The outline of Edward Moore's Gamester
was taken by Saurin for his Beverley, Tragedie en
Cinq Actes et en Vers Libres.
Shirley's Gamester (adapted and produced by
Garrick as the Gamesters] was founded on an
incident in the Heptameron. According to M.
Jules Janin's Histoire de la Litterature Drama-
tique, vol. iv., p. 385, the last act of Trente Ans; ou,
la Vie d'un Joueur is derived from February 24t/i,
a German play by Zachary Werner. The other
acts of the play have also their history, if we are
to believe M. Goizet's Histoire Anecdotique de la
Collaboration au Theatre, p. 125 : —
" Paul de Kock prend un Opera Comique dc Marsolier,
Deux Mots; ou, une Nuit dam la Foret, et en fait un des
episodes de son roman de Friire Jacques, episode dont
plus tard MM. Goubaux et Beudin feront leur drame de
Trente Ans; ou, la Vie d'un Joueur que M. Victor Du-
cange retouchera et mettra en scene.'
This piece Mr. William Dunlop, the author of
the Life of G. F. Cooke, and the History of the
American Stage, translated for his own theatre in
New York. I have no doubt but that a version
of it occasionally sees the light of the lamps in
some English transpontine theatre.
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Mr. T. W. Robertson's comedy Play, produced
at the Prince of Wales's Theatre in 1868, only
dealt with the subject incidentally; the third act
closed with a view of the tables in some German
Spa, copied from M. Gustave Dore's Baden-Baden;
ou, U Tapis Vert. In 1865 MM. Eugene Nus and
Adolphe Belot produced in Paris a play called La
Fievre du Jour, attacking gambling both in stocks
and with cards. It having then failed, M. Belot
has recently re-arranged it, and it has just been
played in New York at Booth's Theatre as Elene,
with a gambling scene similar to the one in Play.
Gambling episodes, more or less important, are
also to be found in Don Juan de Marana of
Dumas pere ; in Society, by T. W. Robertson ; in
On Hand, by Mr. J. J. McCloskey; and in Kit, the
Arkansas Traveller, by Messrs. Ed. Spencer and
T. De Walden. J. BRANDER MATTHEWS.
Lotos Club, New York.
THERF CAKE. — In the Vision of Piers Plowman
(E. E. T. S., text A., page 88) is the following:—
"And a fewe Cruddes and Craym, and a therf cake,
And a lof of Benes and Bren, I-bake for my children."
The mothers of Lancashire still bake for their
children a kind of cake which they call thar-caTce.
A note to the above gives another reading as hauer-
cake. Haver-cake and thark-cake are, however,
not the same things; it was the former which gave
the name to a Lancashire volunteer corps in 1804,
which was known as " The Havercake Lads."
H. FISHWICK.
DEMERIT. — This is one of those words which, in
its modern acceptation, has a meaning the direct
opposite to what it had some three or four hundred
years ago. Polydore Vergel writes: — " He (Edward
the Confessor) was buried in the Churche at West-
minster, and successivelie for his demerits ascribed
emonge the Saincts." — Hist, of Engl., 295. Camd.
Soc., 1846. EDMUND TEW, M.A.
EPITAPHS. — The following, respecting a watch-
maker, is accredited to Grimsby churchyard : —
" Here lies one who strove to equal time,
A task too hard, each power too sublime,
Time stopped his motion, o'erthrew his balance •wheel,
Wore off his pivots though made of hardened steel,
Broke all his springs, the verge of life decayed,
And now he is as though he never had been made,
Not for the want of oiling that he tried,
If that had done why then he'd never died."
On one of the outside walls of St. Mary's Church,
Beverley, iS an oval slate, bearing the following
inscription: —
" Here two young Danish soldiers lye,
The one in quarrel chanced to die,
The other's head by their own law
Was severed from his body at one blow."
In Beverley Minster the single word " Resurgam"
is cut in large uneven letters in a large stone.
This is, I believe, the shortest epitaph in existence.
T. A. 0.
PUN. — As I neither endorse the well-known
saying, generally attributed to Dr. Johnson, nor
entertain the great contempt that he had for that
species of wit, I venture to ask whence is the word
pun derived ? Dr. Johnson himself was in doubt,
as he says, " I know not whence this word is to be
deduced; to pun is to grind or beat with & pestle;
can pun mean an empty sound like that of a mortar
beaten, as clench, the old word for pun, seems only
a corruption of clink?" As to the antiquity of
puns, we know that Aristotle gives them conse-
quence by a grave disquisition ; and that, accord-
ing to Addison (Spectator, No. 61), Cicero "has
sprinkled several of his works with them." And,
further, we are told of a sinner who was punned
into repentance by a sermon preached by Bishop
Andrews. Although Shakspeare was a most in-
veterate punster, I believe the word " pun " occurs
but once in his plays, namely, in Troilus and Cres-
sida, Act ii. sc. 1, 1. 42, ;' He would pun thee into
shivers with his fist, as a sailor breaks a biscuit."
FREDK. RULE.
HENRY MASERS DE LA TUDE. — In Goudemetz's
Historical Epochs of the French Revolution, 1796,
under the date of 1794, Jan. 11, appears the fol-
lowing entry amongst the list of guillotined : —
" The Baron De La Tude guillotined ; he had lived
many years in the Bastille, and was called the proof and
victim cf despotism."
Now, it is well known that the Bastille hero,
Henry Masers (dit De la Tude), died in his 80th
year, on the 2nd Jan., 1805, and consequently the
above notice is, to say the least of it, very mislead-
ing. The real truth, however, seems to be that
the Baron de la Tude in question was the head of
the old family of which Henry Masers latterly
assumed the name, to which it appears he had no
right whatever, as proved by a copy of his birth
certificate extracted from the registry of the town
of Montagnac, in Languedoc, his birthplace : —
" L'an 1725 et le 26 Mars, Jean Henri, illegitime, ne
depuis trois jours, fille de Jeanneton Aubrespy et d'un pere
inconnu, les parrain et marraine ont ete Jean Bonhour
et Jeanne Boudet."
Jeanneton Aubrespy, it would seem, was a do-
mestic servant in the Chateau de Creissels, tte
seat of the Latude family, and the existing Baron
Henri de Latude never would acknowledge that
he was the father of Jeanneton's child, although
the latter took his name after his death.
The guillotined Baron Vissec, son of Henri Masers's
reputed father, always refused to acknowledge the
relationship, and it would seem, therefore, that the
only name he had a legal right to was that of Jean
Henri Aubrespy, while of the name he is known
by in French history as a victim of despotism, the
larger portion, Masers de Latude, is assumed.
(Vide article " Latude " in Jal's Dictionnaire.)
H. H.
Lavender Hill.
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CORNISH LIBRARIES. — An articleinthe Saturday
Beview, of April 11, remarks on the remoteness of
Cornwall from public libraries, and states that
" throughout the whole length of the county there
is no collection of books worth mentioning, save in
three or four great country houses." But I wish, in
gratitude, to put on record that at Penzance is to
be found an exception to this rule. Unpromising
as is the first aspect of this place, it improves vastly
on further acquaintance in many ways, and I know
of no town, of the same size as Penzance, which
can boast of such an excellent public library. I
believe there is no watering-place in England where
a visitor will find an equally large and carefully
selected store of books of reference and standard
works, and where, on payment of a small sum of
money, he will be so .courteously admitted to all
the privileges enjoyed by the regular subscribers.
Indeed, I should be very glad to learn of any other
of our south- coast refuges for invalids that offers to
strangers similar literary amusement.
J. H. I. OAKLET.
EXTRACTS FROM AN OLD MAGAZINE. — I think
the following extracts from the European Magazine,
vol. 66, 1814, are sufficiently curious to merit
rescue from the oblivion of an old periodical, and
preservation in " N. & Q.": —
" Lately, at Glasgow, Mr. H. Cain, aged eighty-four, to
Mrs. Maxwell, of Clark's bridge, aged ninety-six. It is
the sixth time for the bridegroom, and the ninth time
for the bride, being joined in wedlock."
The above appears in the list of marriages for
July, 1814. This aged couple evidently believed
that it is not good for man to be alone— or woman
either !
In the Monthly Obituary for September, 1814,
the following particulars are given regarding an
eccentric female personage, then recently deceased :
"Lately, in Gray's Alms Houses, Taunton, aged 82,
Hannah Murton, a maiden lady. She vowed, several
years ago, that no HE FELLOW should ever touch her,
living or dead. In pursuance of this resolution, about
ten years since, she purchased a coffin, in which, when-
ever she felt serious illness, she immediately deposited
herself— thus securing the gratification of her peculiar
sensibility. The coffin was not, however, exclusively
appropriated to the reception of her mortal remains, but
served also as her wardrobe, and the depository of her
bread and cheese."
This narrative of the aged spinster's " peculiar
sensibility" is tantalizingly incomplete ; one is
curious to know whether, after all, she died in her
coffin ! W. A. C.
Glasgow.
THE QUEEN'S ENGLISH. — A correspondent re-
cently sent to"N. & Q." a collection of words,
spelt in a very strange manner, which he had
culled from one of Ouida's novels. I have just met
with some equally outre spellings in a little work
Avhich is, I suppose, worth a good deal more than
all Ouida's books put together, Guesses at Truth,
by the brothers Hare : Furnisht, wisht, and other
past participles ; defense, simily, manouvring,
firy, forein, soverein, controll, flights, also highth,
traveled, ingenius. It is only fair to state that I
find ingenius spelt in the usual way in other parts
of the book, so this may be a misprint. I am not
sure that I should have known that firy meant
fiery, apart from the context. I think it is a great
pity that really clever men should adopt such an
odd style of writing their native tongue, and one
feels inclined to exclaim with honest Sir Hugh
Evans, " What phrase is this 1 Why, it is affecta-
tions." JONATHAN BOUCHIER.
HOUBRAKEN, THE ENGRAVER. — As Houbraken-
worked so often for Englishmen, the observations
Gersaint makes in his Catalogue of the Collection-
of Mons. de la Rogue, Paris, 1745, are interesting.
He says : —
"Les ouvrages de M. Houbraken sent fort goutez chez.
les Anglois, et c'est une justice qu'ils rendent 4 son
merite. H est presque toujours occupe pour eux. J'ai
eu le plaisir de Taller voir a Amsterdam ; je 1'ai trouve
d'une caractere liant. Comme il aime tout ce qu'il y a
de beau dans 1'art de la gravure, il est devenu un des
plus grands Curieux d'Estampea de la Hollande. II a eu
pour moi toute la complaisance possible, en me faisant
voir son cabinet ; ce qui n'est pas ordinaire chez ces
curieux, aupres desquels il y a presque toujours de grandes
precautions, a prendre pour se procurer settlement une
entree; ce qui derient tres-souvent rebutant. Cela me
fit d'autant plus de plaisir, que tout y est chcisi par un
homme de 1'art. En effet c'est 1'assortiment le plu&
parfait que j'aye vu en Hollande. L'amour que M.
Houbraken a pour ses estampes est si fort, que jamais je
n'ai pu le tenter quelque prix que je lui aye oifert, pour
1'obliger a se ddfaire en ma faveur de quelques morceaux
que je desirois ; ce qui est fort rare dans ce pays-la, oil
les curieux sont presque tous marchands et toujours
prets a vendre, quand on veut leur bien payer les choses
que 1'on attaque."
KALPH N. JAMES.
Ashford, Kent.
THE "DIAL" SYSTEM OF TELEGRAPHY. — The
following I take from the Spectator of December 6,
1711 (No. 241):—
" Strada, in one of his Prolusions, gives an account of
a chimerical correspondence between two friends by the
help of a certain loadstone, which had such virtue in it,
that if it touched two several needles, when one of the
needles so touched began to move, the other, though at
never so great a distance, moved at the same time, and
in the same manner. He tells us, that the two friends
being each of them possessed of one of these needles,
made a kind of dial-plate, inscribing it with the four-and-
twenty letters, in the same manner as the hours of the
day are marked upon the ordinary dial-plate. They then
fixed one of the needles on each of the plates in such a
manner that it could move round without impediment,
so as to touch any of the four-and-twenty letters. Upon
their separating from one another into distant countries,
they agreed to withdraw themselves punctually into
their closets at a certain hour of the day, and to con-
verse with one another by means of their invention.
Accordingly, when they were some hundreds of miles
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[5th S. I. MAT 30, 74.
asunder, each of them shut himself up in his closet a
the time appointed, and immediately cast his eye upon
his dial -plate. If he had a mind to write anything to hi
friend, he directed his needle to every letter that forme<
the words which he had occasion for, making a littl
pause at the end of every word or sentence, to avoid con
fusion. The friend in the mean time saw his own sym
pathetic needle moving of itself to every letter which
that of his correspondent pointed at. By this means
they talked together across a whole continent, and con
veyed their thoughts to one another in an instant, ovei
cities or mountains, seas or deserts."
Nothing is wanting but the batteries and wires
to make the above a Wheatstone or Siemens
instrument. I suppose the Strada referred to i;
the historian, who died in Rome in 1649. A. D.
IS"ew University Club.
DR. GUILLOTIN. — It is a remarkable instance oj
the vitality of a popular error, that Thackeray, who
was evidently well acquainted with French history
and French affairs generally, should, in his Philip,
chap, xvi., have fallen into the common mistake of
supposing that Dr. Guillotin perished by means of
the instrument which bears his name, but which
he did not, as Thackeray says, invent. Thackeray
does not actually assert that Guillotin died on the
guillotine, but he puts it in the form of a question,
the answer to which is, of course, intended to be
yes — "Was not good Dr. Guillotin executed by
his own neat invention ? "
Now nothing, I suppose, is more certain than
that Guillotin survived the great Revolution many
years, and died a natural death in 1814. I fear,
however, that for many a year yet the really
humane French physician is doomed " to point a
moral and adorn a tale/' along with Perillus and
others who have fallen into their own trap.
JONATHAN BOUCHIER.
PARALLEL PASSAGES. — It has been said of
Moore, perhaps with some exaggeration, that there
is not a single original thought, conception, meta-
phor, or image, in the whole range of his works ;
and, judging from the following quotations, he
was certainly not original in the passage quoted
by MR. JACKSON (5th "S. i. 246) :—
'' So when thou saw'st in nature's cabinet
Stella thou straight'st look'st babies in her eyes."
Sir P. Sidney, Astrophel and Stella.
" My face in thine, thine in mine appear?,
And two plain hearts do in the faces rest."
Donne, The Good- Morrow.
" And pictures in our eyes to get
Was all our propagation."
Donne, The Ecstacy.
" To look gay babies in your eyes, young Roland."
Beaumont and Fletcher, The Tamer Tamed.
"See where little Cupid lies,
Looking babies in the eyes.''
Drayton.
" You blame me too because I can't devise
Some sport to please those babies in your eyes."
Herrick.
"Be sure when you come into company that you do
not stand staring the men in the face as if you were
making babies in their eyes." Quevedo.
" It is an active flame that flies
First to the babies in the eyes."
Herrick, The Kiss.
"What should they do] Can ye look babies, sisters,
In the young gallants' eyes."
Beaumont and Fletcher, The Loyal Subject.
Again, in the same play : —
" Look babies in your eyes, my pretty sweet one."
and in The False One, bv the same authors, we
find—
"Still with this woman 1 Tilting still with babies."
Even Quarles brings it in —
" He that daily spies
Twin babies in his mistress' Geminis."
4th Emblem, Book II.
I have been indebted to Edward Kenealy's Bralla-
ghan ; or, the Deipnosophists, 1845, for several of
these quotations. T. MACGRATH.
veluti pueris absinthia tastra medentes
Cum dare conantur, prius oras pocula circum
Contingunt mellis dulci flavoque liquore,
Tit puerorum astas improvida ludificetur
Labrorum tenus, interea perpotet amarum
Absinthi laticem deceptaque non capiatur,
Sed potius tali pacto recreata valescat," &c.
Lucretius, iv. 11.
" Cosi all'egro fanciullo porgiamo a§persi
Di soave licor gli orli del vaso ;
Succhi amari ingannato intarito ti beve,
E dall' inganno suo vita riceve."
Tasso, Le Gerusalemme, i. 3.
I know not whether the very close resemblance
oetween the above passages has been remarked by
;he commentators upon either poet; the same idea
is expressed in almost identical language by Lucre-
;ius and Tasso. C. C. B.
[We must request correspondents desiring information
n family matters of only private interest, to affix their
lames and addresses to their queries, in order that the
.nswers may be addressed to them direct.]
JEWISH DISH. — I possess a circular pewter dish,
14 inches diameter, covered with symbolical repre-
entations and inscriptions in Hebrew letters. In
he centre is a lamb, with the words Korban and
'esack. Round this are the four Hebrews, who
isk the question, " What mean ye by this service V
riz., the wise son, the wicked son, the simple son,
;nd the one with no capacity (literally, " who
oioweth not that the grave is open for him").
With these are placed the pattern creatures, with
heir Hebrew inscriptions, " Strong as an eagle,"
' Swift as a hart," " Strong as a lion," and a fourth
ike a fox, with no inscription, but which ought to
e " Bold as a leopard " (to do the will of thy
'ather which is in heaven), according to the saying
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
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of JudahBen Tema, enshrined in the "Chapters of
the Fathers" (ch. v.). There, however, we read
''• light as an eagle." Outside these is an inscrip-
tion, partly in German words, but entirely in
Hebrew characters. Outside this, in large Hebrew
letters, the list of "Agenda" in the Passover
Service. And on the outer edge of the plate, the
subjects recounted in the ancient story of the
" Only kid," in a series of medallions, each having
an explanatory Hebrew word or two : — 1. Pharaoh
seated, with sceptre ; 2. The Father (in arm-chair,
with long pipe) ; 3. The kid (with fine pair of
horns) ; 4. Cat (clawing at mouse) ; 5. Dog ;
6. Stick ; 7. Fire ; 8. Water (a well) ; 6. Ox ;
V. Slayer ; 8. Angel of Death (winged skeleton
with sword); 9. (no inscription) an Arm issuing
from clouds, holding a sword ; 10. Moses our
Master (with rod and Tables of Law). The story
begins " One kid, an only kid, which my father
bought for two zuzim. One kid, an only kid. And
there came a cat and worried the kid which my
father bought," &c., and so on, repeating the
whole every time till we come to " And there
came the Holy One, Blessed be He, and slew the
Angel of Death," &c. (compare Hos. xiii. 14). It
is regarded as a parable descriptive of incidents in
the history of the Jewish nation, with reference
also to prophecies yet unfulfilled. The cat that
worried the kid is Babylon, that swallowed up their
nationality ; the dog is Persia, and so on. But
the carver of my dish could never have been aware
of this interpretation, according to which the
" Father " is God. May not our nursery story of
the old woman and her pig that would not go over
the stile have been a parody on this, made in de-
rision of the Jews ?
There are some things on this curious dish about
which I want further information :—
1. A medallion, with a pair of double tailed
lions as " supporters," and containing the word nin
in large letters, above it a crown, and below, in
small letters, the word prrv.
2. The bi-lingual inscription mentioned above.
It seems to be as follows : " Dieserr schiissel
gehort Herr " ; then follow the words — -
xi^bu-
which, I presume, are the name and title of
the owner. The third word is " governor," unless
it be meant for the initial letters of " Qui vivat
ad dies bonos Amen" (see Buxtorf, De, Abbrev.
Heb.\ and the last looks like some such place-name
as Eber- or Ober-shum with preposition prefixed,
unless the last syllable be the technical abbrevia-
tion for " Spires, Worms, and Mentz," used in
connexion with the law of marriage portions. The
next clause is in Hebrew :— " And to his wife and
consort —
ir apv ra V^NT rm
(" may her Rock and her Redeemer preserve her" is,
I am aware, the meaning of the abbreviation) ; then
follows " In the year 534, according to the short
reckoning" (i. e., A.D. 1773). I should like to have
a proper rendering of the names, &c. ; in fact, of all
the Hebrew I here give ; also to know whether
such dishes as this be common or not, whether mine
be a well-known type, or whether its devices, &c.,
may be regarded as some private fancy.
J. T. F.
Hatfield Hall, Durham.
FOLK-LORE OF THE HARE. — For what reason
has the hare, amongst so many nations (especially
amongst the Kelts), been deemed " uncanny," and
(as in Scotland) been the favourite animal for
witches to transform themselves into when they
wished to perform their " cantrips " ? Has the
fact of its being regarded by the Law of Moses
unclean (though this is an error engendered of
insufficient acquaintance with natural history) any-
thing to do with the hare's ill repute in the Middle
Ages ? PELAGIUS.
LUNAR RAINBOW. — I lately witnessed, from this
spot, a phenomenon by no means familiar to me. At
about 10 P.M. the moon became encompassed, at a
radius of about twenty times its apparent diameter,
by a luminous band of moderate breadth, most
brilliant at its centre, and gradually fading towards
the outer and inner extremities, the sky at the
time being cloudless. This band constituted a
complete circle, regular and unbroken. The whole
spectacle presented the appearance of an immense
aperture in the heavens, the general features not
being identical with those of an aurora borealis,
such as we have seen so frequently of late. It has
since occurred to me that it might have been what
is known as a lunar rainbow.
RICHARD FRANCIS HERRING.
Canonbury, N.
COLUMBUS. — I have lately come across a cutting
from the Illustrated London News of January 7,
1852, in which is quoted a paragraph from the
London Times of a few days' prior date, to the
effect that a Captain D'Auberville of the bark
" Chieftain " of Boston, had, while strolling along
the beach on the African coast, opposite Gibraltar,
picked up a cedar keg, which, upon being opened,
proved, by the documents it contained, to have
been thrown overboard by Columbus from his ship
during a severe gale, and under the belief that
they were about to founder. Is there anything
more known about this discovery, or is it, as I fear,
a pure fabrication ? J. N.
Melbourne, Victoria.
VARIA. — The Quarterly Review on Carlyle. —
Who wrote the critical article on Carlyle's writings
in the Quarterly for September, 1840 1
2. Was the word " cerf " ever written "serf" in
old French I
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NOTES AND QUEEIES.
[5th S. I. MAY 30, 74.
3. Was the "J. M. K." of Tennyson's well-
known early sonnet the John Milton King of the
volume entitled Tangled Talk, Strahan, 1864, and
is John Milton King the real name 1
D. BLAIR.
Melbourne.
DESCRIPTIVE CATALOGUES. — Can you refer me
to any books or papers on the art of forming a
descriptive catalogue of a library? This query
appeared in " N. & Q." 2nd S. ix. 403, and as yet
it has never been answered. B. C.
REV. Gr. HAMILTON. — Where can I see a copy
of a letter from the Rev. George Hamilton, M. A.,
late Hector of Killermdgh, Queen's Co. (published
about 1824), to Eabbi Herschell, showing that the
Resurrection is as credible a fact as the Exodus 1
HENRY AUGUSTUS JOHNSTON.
Kilmore, Richhill, Co. Armagh.
TRANSLATION WANTED. — Thirty-six lines from
•&, metrical translation of Prudentius's Hymn on the
Martyrdom of St. Hippolytus. If there exists such
a translation, would any one possessing it kindly
lend it to me, or send me the lines required 1
GREYSTEIL.
DATES WANTED. — I should be glad to know
the days on which the following "events" take
place annually : — 1. The Well Dressing at Tis-
sington. 2. The distribution, under the will of a
benefactor whose name I forget, of marriage-por-
tions to female servants, which is made somewhere
(where?) in the City of London. A. J. M.
SPECHYNS. — In Hexham the scraps of sheep
.skin, &c., used in the manufacture of glue, are
-spread out to dry on a piece of common land at
the side of the river, and are then called speches.
The monks of Hexham, four hundred years ago,
possessed a salmon fishery at Newburn-on-Tyne,
aud the meadows on the banks of the river, where
the nets were dried, are described in their rent-
roll as "prata vocata Crokyt-Spechyns." Another
of their possessions, at Kirkbye, in Cleveland, is
described as being "juxta ripas de Doufe, vocatas
spechyns." What is the meaning of this word
spechyns, as applied to some portions of the banks
of a river 1 THOMAS DOBSON, B. A.
Hexham.
QUOITS. — Is there any book giving a history of
this game, and an account of the diverse ways oi
playing it, in different times and countries ?
K. P. D. E.
M. DE BODELSCHWINGH. — He once held the
Prussian posts of Minister of the Interior, Roy&
Commissioner in the Diet, and High Chancellor of
the Kingdom. It was about twenty-nine years
ago, I think, that I read in the Times an interest-
ing incident pertaining to the above distinguished
personage, concerning whom I shall feel grateful
'or any particulars whatsoever. J. E. L.
Nottingham.
TOPOGRAPHY OF NORTHUMBERLAND. — There is
a work on this county containing a copy of the
steward's accounts at Chillingham Castle. The
itle of this book is desired. ELLCEE.
PAINTINGS. — I have just been shown an old
Dainting in oil, upon canvas, representing appa-
rently an official of high standing in the sixteenth
entury. It is a half-length portrait of a man with
a high forehead, close-cut beard and moustache,
rearing a scarlet cape or robe, and a three-cornered
jap of the same colour, with ruffles and collar of
Lawn or muslin, and it bears the following in-
scription : FRAN8 CORN8 A CLEMENTE VIII MDXCVI.
I have also in my own possession an oil painting,
on oak panel, of, apparently, a king crowned,
wearing an ermine robe, with long flowing brown
hair and beard, and bearing the following inscrip-
tion : x vix x x 43 x. It bears a striking resemblance
to some pictures of Our Saviour as well as of King
John.
Can any reader of " N & Q." give some idea
as to the originals who are intended to be repre-
sented by the above 1 R. W.
"THE WANDERING OF PERSILES AND SIGIS-
MUNDA." A northern story, by Cervantes. Lon-
don, published by Joseph Cundall, 1854. The
translator states that this is the first direct transla-
tion of Cervantes's last work into English. Can
any of your readers tell me if there has been any
since, and also who the translator of the above
was 1 The Preface is signed L. D. S.
HlBERNIA.
RIGBY, PAYMASTER OF THE FORCES IN 1768. —
Wanted, a life, or a tolerably full notice, of him.
VERA.
SONGS IN "ROKEBY." — Have the following
songs in EoJceby, by Sir Walter Scott, ever been
set to music, and if so, when and by whom 1
"Hail to thy cold and clouded beam," canto i.,
stanza 32 ; "A weary lot is thine, fair maid," and
" Allen-a-Dale has no faggot for burning," canto iii.,
stanzas 28 and 30 ; " Summer eve is gone and
past " ; " 0, Lady, twine no wreath for me " ; "I
was a wild and wayward boy," and " While the
dawn on the mountain was misty and gray,"
canto v., stanzas 7, 13, 18, and 20.
JOHN PICKFORD, M.A.
Newbourne .Rectory, Woodbridge.
THE " SILVER OAR."— Circumstances have caused
me to take an interest in the legal or official origin,
use, and sumptuary power of the " silver oar," long
considered, I believe, an emblem and badge, in
the hands of its holder, of some delegated authority
i* S. I. MAT 30, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
to be exercised by the judicial or magisterial au-
thorities on land over persons afloat. Impelled by
this interest, I have made considerable inquiry and
research concerning the actual or assumed origin,
powers, and privileges, of this " silver oar," and
the authority and " status " of those to whom it is
entrusted as a badge of office and privilege. Can
any of your correspondents or contributors kindly
oblige me, and possibly many others interested in
this subject ? ANCHOR.
" THE TWO AND THIRTY PALACES." — In an in-
teresting letter of Keats, published in the Athe-
nceum, May 16, occur these words : " One grand
and spiritual passage serves (a man) as a starting
post towards all 'the two and thirty Palaces.'"
Query, what palaces, and why two and thirty ?
A. L. MAYHEW.
Oxford.
EARLY AMERICAN BOOK. — Who was Piomingo ?
His name appears on the following title-page : —
" The Savage. By Piomingo, a Headman and
Warrior of the Muscogulgee Nation. Published
by Thomas S. Manning, No. 148 South Fourth
Street, Philadelphia. 1810 (8vo. pp. 2 and 311)."
I assume that Piomingo is a mask-name of a
subsequently recognized writer. Probably some
American correspondent may be able to inform
A. B. G.
VAN EYCK'S "ADORATION OP THE LAMB." — Will
some correspondent kindly give me the originals
and translations of the inscriptions upon this cele-
brated picture ? A. H. B.
THE DOBREES OF GUERNSEY.;
(4th S. xii. 169, 231, 298, 397.)
Notwithstanding the inaccuracy of a few at-
tempts by other correspondents of your valuable
journal to account for the early settlement of
the Dobre"es in this island (Guernsey), MR.
MACCULLOCH'S, a.s far as it goes, is the most
trustworthy. Having long been in possession of
the MS. to which MR. M. alludes, allow me to
describe it ere I extract therefrom authentic details,
which it will be my endeavour to elucidate.
It is a diary, or day-book, a register of family
occurrences, commencing under the reign of
Henry VII., and extending to the tenth year of
his grand- daughter Elizabeth.
It originally belonged to a clergyman, "Sire
.Denys Osanne," a resident and proprietor in the
parish of " Notre Dame du Chastel," or Castel, in
this island. In two of his wills he styles himself
"prestre de saint Gation"; but, as I have failed
to discover any traces here of a chapel of that
name, it is not unlikely that his benefice was on
the other side of the water, a dependency of the
Abbey of Marmoutiers (" Majus Monasterium "),
at Tours, which, as early as the year 1047, pos-
sessed six of our churches. Neither of this im-
portant fact nor of its record, had the unfilmed
eye of any of our reformed annalists taken the
slightest notice. " L'eglise," for all that, " honore
S. Gation le 18e de decembre." (Lorsqu'il fonda)
" 1'eglise de Tours, il ne trouva pas que la docilite
des habitants r^pondit a la beaute du climat
II etoit oblige de ce'Mbrer les divins mysteres dans
des lieux souterrains " (Greg., Tur., x. 31 ; Longue-
val, Hist, de I'figl. Gal., torn. i. p. 64, a Nismes,
1782). From a catalogue of Sir Denys's furniture,
made " quand (il) fut a St. Jacques," I probably
infer that the journey alluded to was a pilgrimage
to Compostella.
The next proprietor of our manuscript was
"Johan Girart, Thresorier de Nostre Dame du
Chastel," a near kinsman of the said Denys. It
falls at length into the hands of another, " Johan
Girart," the earliest " claircq," that is, clerk, after-
wards called " lecteur," of Ste. Marie du Catel.
It is to this worthy that we are indebted for the
account of two interviews at St. Peter-Port, A.D.
1566 and 1568, with " Jean D'Auberaye," a refugee
settler in this island. In the year 1566 the said
Jean was the husband of " la vieille Michelle," to
wit, as we learn from the genealogy, a credible
domestic record, " Michelle le M^surier."
It was from Vitr£ in Brittany,* and not from
Vitry-sur-Seine, that this first Dobree came hither.
He was consequently a French Briton, of the same
origin as those who settled in this "archipel,"
attracted by the eloquence of a priest of the diocese
of Coutances, a native of Bayeux, Marcouf
(" Marck-ulf "), the Jay, A.D. 540; to whose
" Amwarydhwr," defender, guardian, Charle-
magne, A.D. 787, sent a message, of which the
bearer was Gervaldus, Abbot of Fontenelle. Our
cluster was still " the land of the Britons," "gens
Britonum," when William Longsword, son of
Rollo, obtained a grant thereof from Kadulphus
(Raoul), King of France, A.D. 933 (Flodoardus,
Canonicus Bhemensis, ob. 946) —
" Digredi, non est divagari.'1
It is evident that, in 1566, Jean Dobre"e was not
young, since his wife was called " la vieille
Michelle." If Jean d'Auberaye, in other para-
graphs of our manuscript, is called Daubree, and
also Dobre'e, the ear is answerable alone for this
very slight orthographical deviation. A rich
jeweller, whose name was spelt Daubree, was
assassinated at Paris a few years ago.
And now let me sincerely deplore one of the
• "En 1479, dans un Memoire du Vicomte de Rohan,
voici ce que j'ai lu : ' Combien que la Seigneurie de
Vitre soit une belle Seigneurie, pourtant n'est elle point
si belle, si noble, ni si ample/ &c." (Hist. EccL de Bre-
tagne, Paris, 1786, p. Ixxx.)
430
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5th S. I. MAY 30, '74.
sad results of those coups du del, reformations and
revolutions, namely, the destruction of many a
precious link in our national and domestic annals.
A remarkable instance of this disadvantage ought
not to be overlooked. It was Peter-Paul Dobree,
the distinguished son of a rector of St. Sauveur,
Guernsey, who, albeit Greek Professor at Cam-
bridge, Person's friend and Bentley's successor,
fancied that his ancestors had only come to
Guernsey in 1572, after the massacre of St. Bar-
tholomew.
Of all your correspondents only one has whis-
pered anything about the status of Jean d'Auberaye.
He was an armourer.
As in our mother, France, we had here Monstres,
Moustres, whence English Musters, Monstres
Generales. So, on one of these occasions, Johan
Girart bargained with Jean d'Auberaye for a
"hacquebute," an "espee," et une " dagen."
And as D'Auberaye came from Vitre, in Brit-
tany, it is not uninteresting to find that Johan
Girart, treasurer of Notre Dame du Chastel under
the first two Tudors, was a dealer in coarse linen
cloth, called cres, Welsh crys, Franco-Norman,
carise, imported from Vitre.
As to the origin of the name D'Auberaye, in
spite of illiterate genealogists, nothing is plainer.
At the foundation of "les Cannes de Nantes,
A.D. 1326," "Johan d'Auberaye," "Joannes de
Aubereya, Clericus," is a witness (Actes de Bre-
tagne, torn, i., col. 1346).
So, like every other D'Auberaye, the said Johan
was so called from one Auberaye, the mother of all
of them, whose neo-Latin name was Albereda,
Old English Aubrey, analogous to Adelreda, or
Ethelreda, Audrey. As, unfortunately, during
the last three centuries, the annals of Christendom
have been left to the tender mercies of Monsieur
Littre's northern barbarians, some of my readers
know nothing of St. Audrey, an English queen,
•who, albeit twice a widow, died a virgin.
No one more than myself is aware of the elevated
social rank of the Dobr^es of Guernsey and of
, London. To this day, " faithful among the
faithless found," they speak here the pure French
of their venerable ancestors and mine. G. M.
P.S. — I annex, from Ordericus Vitalis, a list of
Auberayes, or Alberedes : —
"Alberede, daughter of Hugh, bishop of Evreux,
esteemed for her great worth."
Hugh died in 1059.
"Alberede, wife of Ralph, Count of Ivri and Bayeux,
half-brother of Richard I., Duke of Normandy."
" Alberede la Grosse, who died on her way to Jerusa-
lem, about 1092."
" Alberede, wife of William de Moulins. gave her con-
sent to the grant of the church of Mahern to St. Evroult "
(v. 13).
" Valeran, Count of Mellent, gave Auberaye, one of
his three daughters, to William Louvel, lord of Ivry, a
rebel, like himself, against Henry I." (xii. 34).
THE SCOTTISH FAMILY OF EDGAR (5th S. i. 25,
75, 192, 355.) — SP. is entirely on the wrong scent,,
and so completely is he misled that he does not
even see the drift of my statements and arguments.
It would be useless to show the misapprehensions
into which he has fallen in his last communication
respecting the Newtown pedigree, and I therefore
simply propose for his consideration the following
view of the matter, which I am confident he will
find on inquiry to be correct. Eichard Edgar, of
Newtown, who married Rachel Maxwell, left no
issue. Eichard, who succeeded him, was the son
of Andrew of Farneyrigg, who married Grissel
Boudun, and the grandson of George of Newtown.
Andrew of Eyemouth, who married Grace Allan,
was the brother of the latter Eichard, and had a
son Andrew, also of Eyemouth. This last An-
drew was the father of the Eev. J. Edgar. Let
SP. compare what I have written in former com-
munications with what is found in Capt. Lawrence-
Archer's book bearing on this subject, and he will
perceive, by the exercise of a little candour and
intelligence, how the view I have suggested makes
this part of the genealogy clear and consistent. If
he can show that the Eichard of Newtown, who
married Margaret Bell, and executed the disposi-
tion in 1766, was the son of the Eichard who
married Eachel Maxwell, I will at once acknow-
ledge my mistake ; but this of course would not
invalidate the evidence afforded by the disposition
just mentioned, that the Eev. J. Edgar was the
grand-nephew of the former Eichard. As the
evidence before the public is not complete, it is
necessary " to put two and two together," but this.
SP. seems incapable of doing. It is quite puerile
to keep bringing in the Lyon King of Arms, when
the question is as to the judgment shown by Capt.
Lawrence-Archer in making use of the materials
before him.
With respect to the other matter I mentioned
on a former occasion, I must again refer to Capt.
Lawrence- Archer's book, at page 82, to show that
the Oliver Edgar who married Margaret Pringle
in 1564 was the son of Eichard Edgar of West .
Monkrigg, and have to say that on looking at the
references given by SP. in his last, and collating
the evidence as he advises, it would appear that
Eichard of Monkrigg was the son of Oliver of
Bassendean, who was the son of Eichard of Wed-
derlie. In this view it is obvious that two descents
have been omitted. There were in the Newtown.
branch an Oliver, then a Eichard, and then an
Oliver, but Capt. Lawrence-Archer gives only one
Oliver in his genealogical table, omitting a Eichard
and an Oliver. X.
"TOLEDOTH JESHU" (5th S. i. 308.) — The-
book inquired for is a work in Hebrew, which ha*
been often reprinted and privately circulated.
The title " Toledoth Jeshu " resembles the Hebrew
««• S. I. MAY 30, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
431
words in the beginning of the Gospel of Matthew
that stand for " the generations " or family history
" of Jesus." But the last word is so altered as to
form a word, which, by taking each letter as the
initial of a Hebrew word, means " Let his name
and memory be blotted out." This is explained
in the early part of the work. In it Jesus is called
rosha, or wicked. The work does not give state-
ments with the authorities for them, but assertions
are made and stories told with a view to disparage
or explain away the principal facts in Christ's life.
It is believed to be a work of late date, probably
about the fifteenth century, and is disavowed by
intelligent Jews. It was condemned in a recent
number of the Jeioish World. A demand for
this work has long existed amongst the ignorant
in consequence of a belief (which one is ashamed
to repeat) that on Christmas Eve, Christ is allowed
abroad, to do evil, and that it is not safe to read
on that night, because He would especially be
found in books, to the injury of those who read
them. Hence the desire to possess this book, or some
manuscript portion of it, because, being written
against Him, it is the only book that can then
be safely read. The inquirer will gain some in-
formation of the work from a book which is before
me in Judseo-Polish, entitled Life, and Death of
Jesus of Nazareth, taken out of the Book of Tole-
doth Jeshua, with Additions from the Book of Tarn,
Moed, London, 1874, translated (i.e. from Hebrew
into JudaBO-Polish) by Abraham Silberstein,
printed by Samuel, son of Joshua Distillator. The
work extends to seventy-two pages, and can be
obtained at 19, Duke Street, Whitechapel, London.
Eisenmenger, in his large work on Judaism (vol. i.
p. 67), calls the Toledoth Jeshu " a blasphemous
little book suggested by the Devil," and gives
some particulars. J. C. Wagenseil gives it in
Hebrew and Latin in his Tela Ignea Satance, &c.,
1681 ; and in the British Museum it is found in
Hebrew and Latin, with extended notes, in a volume
entitled —
"Historia Jeschuse Nazareni a Judseis blaspheme
corrupta, &c., a J. J. Huldrico, Tigurino, 1705."
JOSIAH MILLER, M.A.
Toldoth Jesu is printed in Wagenseil's Tela
Ignea Satance, a small, thick, quarto volume, some-
times met in old-book shops ; where it is generally
sold for about 10s. Perhaps S. P. H., or some
other correspondent, might be able to inform me
respecting the title of a small 8vo. volume, with
Hebrew and Latin, in parallel columns, containing
a very ribald and blasphemous burlesque composi-
tion ridiculing the Son of God, and entitled Naza-
renus. I saw it many years ago in the Library of
T. C. D., but neglected to " make a note" at the
time, and have never since succeeded in tracing
the name or authorship of the book.
S. T. P.
A notice of this work is given in the Hebreiv
Christian Witness, No. 14, for February 1874.
It is there spoken of as "a filthy, blasphemous
Hebreiv Brochure, concocted in the Middle Ages,
and founded on passages in the Talmud and other
Rabbinical works," and is stated to have been just
translated into the jargon spoken by Russian and
Polish Jews. The notice further states that an
Anglo-Hebrew newspaper, while expressing its
" poignant regret that a book of this unwholesome
and scandalous character should be circulated,"
gives the address where the above modern transla-
tion of it may be procured. If an English version
were attempted to be circulated in this country, it
would be immediately prosecuted for obscenity.
For additional particulars, S. P. H. is referred to
the above magazine, which is published by Elliot
Stock, London. W. B.
This note of Dr. Lardner's may interest S. P. H.
(Works, ed. Tegg, 1861, vi. 658):—
" It is a modern work written in tbe 14th or 15th century,
and is throughout, from the beginning to the end, bur-
lesque and falsehood: nor does the shameless writer
acknowledge anything that has so much as a resemblance
of the truth, except in the way of ridicule And I
refer to Wagenseil's Confutation of the Toldoth Jesu."
The title of this confutation is Tela Ignea
Satance: see Mill on Pantheistic Principles,
p. 190, note. CHARLES F. S. WARREN, M.A.
THE BOOK OF JASHER (5th S. i. 289.)— The so-
called " Book of Jasher " is well known to have
been one of the many "lost books of the Bible."
Nothing is certainly known of it beyond the two
quotations from it, one in Joshua (x. 13), the other
in Samuel (2 Sam. i. 18), from which it is inferred
to have been a collection of national songs. The
work, whatever its nature may have been, was soon
entirely lost, and its title and contents have been a
fruitful subject of discussion from the time of the
first Rabbis of the Talmud to the present day.
For further information, I refer MR. BLENKINSOPP
to the principal source of my own, an article by
that great Semitic scholar, the lamented Emanuel
Deutsch, reprinted in his Literary Remains.
(Murray). J. H. I. OAKLEY.
128, Marina, St. Leonards.
Information may be found in Kitto's Bib. Cyc.,
sub voce "Jasher"; also in Smith's Diet. Bible
(Murray). And I may mention that the late Dr.
J. W. Donaldson, Head Master of Bury School,
edited the following, published by Messrs. Jno. W.
Parker & Son, West Strand, in 1854: —
" Jasher, fragmenta archietypa Carminum Hebrae-
corum in Masorethico Vet. Test, textu passim tessellata."
F. S.
Churchdown.
It is thought by some to be a collection of
national songs, the word Jasher being Hebrew for
432
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5th S. I. MAY 30, 74.
"He sang," which is the first word of the first
poem. It is taken by others to consist of the
biographies of just men, since Jasher also means
"just." In early times the whole of the Book of
Joshua was supposed to be a quotation from Jasher.
R. F. HERRING.
St. Mary's Road, Highbury.
The English version spoken of is a forgery, the
production of a type-founder of Bristol, named
Jacob Hive. It was printed in 1751, and reprinted
in 1829. SAMUEL SMITH.
Public Library, Leeds.
Of this literary forgery an excellent account is
given in Home's Introduction to the Scriptures, iv.,
V41-746, by Dr. Tregelles, who subjoins " a few
specimens of the falsehoods, anachronisms, and
contradictions of the Holy Scriptures, which cha-
racterize this nocturnal production of the non-sane
infidel author, Jacob Hive." 0. W. SUTTON.
7, Moss Grove Terrace, Brooks Bar, Manchester.
[See "N. & Q.," 2nd S. x. 271, 272 ; 4th S. ix. 335.]
A POEM BY PRAED (5th S. i. 364.)— These
verses are printed by Mr. Locker, in his Lyra
Elegantiarum (London, 1867). JAYDEE.
This poem of Praed's is in Moxon's Selections
from that author. W. W.
This is one of the best known of Praed's political
poems. It did not appear in Mr. Derwent Cole-
ridge's beautiful edition of the poet, because a
separate collection of his political squibs was in-
tended— an intention as yet unfulfilled. The
American edition, examined by ANON, is, I pre-
sume, the handsome two-volume book, edited by
your frequent correspondent MR. W. H. WHIT-
MORE, of Boston. MORTIMER COLLINS.
Knowl Hill, Berks.
A NEW OBJECT OF TAXATION (5th S. i. 366.)
— The suggestion was probably made by a Scotch
or North of England farmer, who, ploughing him-
self, with two horses abreast and without a driver,
was scandalized at the wasteful mode of ploughing
with four horses in single file, and a man or boy to
drive them, which is even now followed in many
parts of the kingdom. I remember that, about
fifty-two years ago, a Scotch gentleman residing
near Eltham, with the view of inducing his neigh-
bours to adopt a more economical mode of plough-
ing than they practised, got up a ploughing match,
the conditions of which were that the ploughs
should be drawn by two horses abreast and without
a driver, except the ploughman in the stilts. I was
present on the occasion, and recollect that the
farmers— who had assembled in considerable num-
bers to witness this, to them, novel mode of plough-
ing— although they saw the work done before their
eyes, shook their heads, and were almost unani-
mous in declaring that " it would never do."
Just before the Commissioners for the Great Ex-
hibition bought the ground at Brompton on which
the Horticultural Gardens are now located,- I saw
a man ploughing there with four horses, and a boy
leading the foremost. It was market-gardeners'
ground, and the soil was so light that a strong man
might almost have turned it up with his foot. So
inveterate is habit! C. Boss.
"A TOWN ECLOGUE," 1804 (5th S. i. 289.)—
The author of this clever (local) satirical poem was
the Rev. G. A. Hay Drummond, one of the Epis-
copal clergy in Edinburgh. T. G. S.
Edinburgh.
THE EGG AND THE HALFPENNY (5th S. i. 326.)
— " Vous voulez done avoir 1'ceuf et la maille " is,
of course, as MR. SALA says, equivalent to " You
cannot eat your cake and have it." For so plain
a matter we need not refer to the Sportula of the
Eomans. It gives well its own meaning, " You
cannot have the egg and also the halfpenny that
you buy it with." In modern days, and since
that wonderful commercial invention for the
increase of fraudulence called credit, you can
both have the thing and keep the purchase-money
too, but in the simple days of Edward I. it
seemed ridiculous to wish to have the egg and not
pay the halfpenny for it. I rejoice in classing
myself amongst the uncivilized, and to me the
proposition is as ridiculous as ever that a man
should get the egg without the halfpenny. But
Brougham's County Courts and the Modern Bank-
ruptcy Law furnish a perpetual supply of most
entertaining contradictions to this highly common-
sense proverb, and they heighten the amusement
by imposing a fine in shape of fees on the unfor-
tunate goose that solicits them to recover its egg
for it. Ten per cent, is a common levy for not
recovering the thing sued for. Let all prudent
readers try to count the cost before they try the
county courts, is a proverb -for to-day more useful
and suitable than that of Edward's time.
The maille of Lorraine was, I think, not 33 sous
6 deniers,as MR. SALA suggests, but 30 sols 6 denier •$,
(see Roquefort's Glossaire de la Langue Romane),
and 1 sol equalled 12 deniers. There seems to be
extraordinary confusion about this, for Littr6 says
the copper maille was worth only half a denier.
" My kingdom to a beggarly denier," we have in
Shakspeare, and a denier is said to be a twelfth
part of a sou. The division into twelve is curious,
for the word is from denarius, signifying a division
into ten. There is a proverb, " Bonne est la maille
qui sauve le denier," " It is a good sixpence that
saves a shilling," at a charity sermon for instance.
I do not think it ever meant a mortar used by
5th S. I. MAY 30, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
433
builders, but rather a tie. It is a term of carpentry
to designate cracks or shakes in wood which start
in rays from the heart of a tree. There is an ex-
pression in Montaigne, iii. 252, "Encore suis-je
tenu de faire la maine bonne de ma parole." This
is quoted by Littre". I cannot refer to the passage
now. What does it mean ? Is it " I feel bound
to make good my word to the smallest tittle"?
or, more literally, to the last stitch.
Tarver, and that I have not found elsewhere,
says it was a square coin. This is important,
because here you see the resemblance to a lozenge
or square-shaped mesh in a net ; and that certainly
is the original meaning. This will explain the
phrase " II y a toujours maille a partir entr'eux "
— " There is always some knot or mesh to undo
between them." This is not the only proverb, as
MR. SALA says, referring to the word, for there is
Garguntua's " Maille a maille on feist les hauber-
geons," which I suppose was a proverb before
Rabelais was born. The coin is evidently named
from its squareness and resemblance to the mesh
of a stretched net, and not, I think, as Ducange
and Littre' suggest, from low Latin medala, medalia,
medaille. Maille, the stain on the wing of par-
tridges, conies from Lat. macula. Maille, a loop,
mesh, or stitch, must have another origin, but I
fear I have already run to too great a length.
C. A. WARD.
Mayfair.
The original meaning of the question, "Vos
volez dont aver le eof et la inayle ? " may have been
"Do you want the egg and the mallet 1" "Do
you want to begin the game 1" or, " Do you want
the game all to yourself 1" The mallet used in the
very old game of " mail " was called " la maille."
There remain the questions, Was "the egg" a cant
name for the ball] and was it white and slightly
oval, to give the maille a better hold on it 1
RALPH N. JAMES.
Asliford, Kent.
"MAN-A-LosT" (5th S. i. 385.)— It certainly is
odd that two novelists should have simultaneously
used over again the old owl story of everybody's
childhood. But in the name of the owl-eyed
goddess, who sprang from the skull of Zeus, I pro-
test against MR. OUTHBERT BEDE'S attempt to
claim originality for the legend in the Valley of
the Terne. He talks of twenty years ago. Forty
years ago, in the Valley of the Tarnar, my grand-
mother told me the same story of a " half-saved "
labourer in her employ, whose son (such are For-
tune's vicissitudes) is now a baronet. Is it not a
pity that novelists should get into their " anec-
dotage " ? Anecdote means, etymologically, a story
never told before; but this owl- legend is so old
that to tell it over again is like carrying coals to
Newcastle, or (as Aristophanes hath it) owls to
Athens. MORTIMER COLLINS.
Knowl Hill, Berks.
The story referred to by CUTHBERT BEDE is
well known at Cirencester. The scene of the
incident was in Earl Bathurst's beautiful and
extensive estate adjoining the town. More than
fifty years ago, a local " character," named Robert
Hall, was returning home through the woods late
one night, and lost his way. " Man lost !" shouted
the frightened traveller. " Whoo, whoo !" cried
the owl. " Bobby Hall ; lost in the Three-mile
Bottom !" replied the man. This went on for
hours. The story reached the ears of the towns-
people, and " Bobby Hall " was famous ever after.
G. H. HARMER.
The simultaneous publication of the story " Man-
a-lost" in the Cornhill and in Grantley Grange
is curious. The incident recorded, like history in
general, must be often repeating itself. More
than thirty years ago I heard it told of a certain
half-witted labourer of the parish of Sherston, in
Wilts, who was lost in Silk Wood, a well-known
covert in the Duke of Beaufort's country, fringing
the farm on which the poor fellow was employed.
The owl too was there to utter its sympathetic
inquiry, just as in Worcestershire, though it could
hardly have been the same bird vouched for by
CUTHBERT BEDE. Probably there are few woods
which have not had their man-a-lost, and their owl
to pity him ; and it is not impossible that, traced
through the lapse of ages, the same incident may
be found to have occurred in some forest of the
East, now found to be the mother home of all our
moving stories. CROWDOWN.
WHY ADAM MEANS NORTH, SOUTH, EAST AND
WEST (5th S. i. 305.) — I hope the following quo-
tation will be considered " fresh information " by
MR. SKEAT. It is taken from Ceremonies, Customs,
Rites, and Traditions of the Jews, &c., by Hyam
Isaacs [n. d.], p. 250: —
" The Talmud gives you the reason why the first man
was called Adam. In English, the word Adam is spelt
with four letters, but in Hebrew it is spelt in three
letters, ADM. It says, God did ordain that the world
should last as long as he sees good. The first man that
was created was called Adam ; the second man, who was
a man after God's own heart, was called David ; and the
last man that ever will be born will be the Messiah. The
first initial stands A. for Adam ; the second, D. for
David, and M. for Messiah, which they say is the foun-
dation or reason why the first man was called Adam."
G. LAURENCE GOMME.
" CIRCUMSTANCE, THAT UNSPIRITUAL GOD" (5th
S. i. 369), is from Childe Harold, canto iv.,
stanza cxxv. CROWDOWN.
ST. CATHERINE OF SIENNA (5th S. i. 387.) — A
very pleasantly written article appeared in the
Cornhill Magazine, September, 1866, vol. xiv.,
p. 399, under the heading "Sienna and St.
Catherine," which may, perhaps, be interesting to
T. G. S. L. H. H.
434
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5th S. I. MAY 30, 74.
AVERAGE DURATION OF HUMAN LIFE (5th S.
i. 289.)— The following table, though it does not
answer any of the questions put by M. D., is
worth reprinting in connexion with the same. I
have taken it from J. W. G. Gutch's Literary and
Scientific Register and Almanac for 1859, p. xxi.
I never met with it elsewhere : —
PROBABLE DURATION OP LIFE.
From 1 to 70 Years of Age, according to Carlisle Mortality.
Years
Old.
Expec-
tancy.
Years
Old.
Expec-
tancy.
Years
Old.
Expec-
tancy.
Years
Old.
Expec-
tancy.
Years.
Years.
Years.
Years.
Birth
38J
18
43
36
30£
54
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lyr
44J
)9
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37
29f
55
173
2
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20
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38
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24
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38
43
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61
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44
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62
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9
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64
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19
EDWARD PEACOCK.
Bottesford Manor, Brigg.
" Average duration," otherwise " expectation,"
or " mean after-life-time," of life (in England).
Comparison between the Registrar-General's Eng-
lish life table (No. 3), embracing the whole popu-
lation of England and Wales, and the " Life Tables
of the Institute of Actuaries," limited to " Healthy
Lives," insured as such, after medical examination,
by twenty life assurance companies : —
AVERAGE DURATION OP LIFE.
Males.
Females.
Age.
English
Life Table.
Assured
Lives
(Healthy).
English
Life Table.
Assured
Lives
(Healthy).
Years.
Years.
Years.
Years.
Years.
0
39-91
—
41-85
—
20
39-4H
42 '(16 1
40-29
40-815
30
32-76
34-681
33-81
34-503
40
26 '06
27-399
27-34
28-253
50
19-54
20-3(16
20-75
21-616
60
13-53
13-8311
14-34
14-851
70
8-45
«'495
9'02
9'082
80
4-93
4719
5-26
5 450
90
2-84
2-357
3-01
3-302
J. H. W.
[Our Correspondent writes, " As to question No. 3, no
authentic records have been published from which an
answer can be obtained."]
ARMS OF STAMFORD, &c. (5th S. i. 386.)— No
doubt the two golden leopards on a field of gules
were the arms of a bastard. Yet are they no
mark of bastardy, but were borne by the great
Conqueror, the most renowned of bastards, not
on account of his illegitimate birth, but because he
was Duke of Normandy. The Stamford poet is
but using the licence of his craft in considering as.
the cause what was an inseparable accident.
CROWDOWN.
F. ROLLESTON (5th S. i. 388.)— The person in
question being a great-aunt of my own, I can give
MR. CAIRNS one obvious particular respecting her,
namely, that she is a lady and not a gentleman, as
he supposes, her name being " Frances." P.
See Letters of Miss Frances Eolleston, of Kes-
wicJc, Writer of Mazzaroth. Rlvingtons, 1867.
C. D.
SURREY PROVINCIALISMS (5th S. i. 361.) — Of the
words in this list, favour, hele, learn, leasing, loo,
terrify, and troubled, are in common use in Corn-
wall, and in the same acceptation as in Surrey.
Brave = satisfactory, is applied to everything
animate or inanimate. Brussy may be the equi-
valent of the Cornish brouse, a thicket ; and platty
of splatty, uneven in colour. Have one's eye on is
used to signify keeping watch over a thing, in
order to secure it for one's self, or to prevent
mischief being done ; and is probably in use every-
where. Kibble, a bucket, chiefly of the kind used
at mines. W. PSNGELLY.
Torquay.
I venture to submit the following references to
some of the words quoted by MR. G. LEVESON
GOWER : —
Brussy. — French Iroussailles, brushwood. Froissard
(n. iii. 124) uses the word broussis. In Berry, a midland
country of France, the word Ireusses, or Irusses, is still
heard. Diez thinks these forms are kindred to burst,
Irusta (High German); Mrste (Mod. Germ.), brush.
Fluey. — French fluet, slender, delicate. From ftou,flo
(0. Fr.), weak; Flemish flauw (Diez), cf. L&tm fluidus.
Ilucket. — French koqutt, hickup. The French have
the phrase " le hoquet de la mort," the death-sob. Wallon
Mkete; Low-Briton hoi hik ; Sanskrit hikJc.
Zippy.— Insolent. The French say, with the same
meaning, " Faire la lippe," to spout.
Unbekant. — German unlekannt, from lennen, to kno\..
The English form is " unbeknown."
HENRI GATJSSERON.
Ayr Academy.
GIPSIES (5th S. i. 325.)— Ziguer, or Gipsies'
Island, the fourth part of the town Belgrade, on
the Danube, (Edinburgh Gazetteer.}
The tribe mentioned by CIVILIS, from which he
derives the English word conjurer, no doubt cor-
rectly, should be written Kanjar, and not beginning
with a Th. The following may help to throw
further light upon the period of their arrival in
Europe.
" In Germany there were several Companies of Vaga-
bonds began to strowle about, having no Riligion, no
5th S. I, MAY 30, '74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
435
Law, no Country or Habitation, their Faces tawny,
speaking in a particular Canting Language of their own,
and using a slight of Hand in Picking Pockets while
they pretended to tell Fortunes. They were called
Tartars and Zigens. These were the same in my own
opinion as those the French at present call Bohemians
and the English Gypsy's."— De Mezeray's History of
France, A.D. 1417, p. 435.
E.
"DRUID" (5th S. i. 308.)— In all the three
passages cited Druid is but a poetical word for
bard or poet. Cf. : —
" Where your old Bards, the famous Druids, lie."
Milton, Lycidas, 53.
" There was a class of the Druids, whom they called
Bards, who delivered in songs (their only history) the
exploits of their heroes."— Burke, An Abridgement of
English History, b. i. c. 2.
A. L. MAYHEW.
Oxford.
"PALLISER'S HELL" (5th S.'i. 328.)— Is it not
an allusion to the martyrdom Sir Hugh Palliser
experienced owing to his accusations against
Admiral Keppel ? G. A.
THE HOUSE OF GIB (5th S. i. 349.)— The lodge
was erected by the Laird of Strichen (at that time
Fraser), to whose estate a portion of the Mormond
Hill belonged, sometime about 1779. He also
formed the famous " White Horse of Mormond,"
the figure of a horse cut out of the turf, occupying
nearly half an acre, and filled in with white quartz.
As to the inscription on the ruins, I rather think
G. W. has misquoted it. If my memory serves
me, it runs thus —
" In this Hunter's Lodge
Rob Gib commands.
M.D.CCLXXIX."
Not as G. W. puts it —
'• This Hunting Lodge
'Rob Gib commands."
Eob Gib was jester to Charles II., and, as is
said, the King, on one occasion asked, " What
.serve you me for 1" to which Rob replied1, " I serve
your Majesty for stark love and kindness."
In later days the Aberdonians adopted Eob
Gib's words as a concluding toast, by which they
meant " Loyal and true," as much as to say, " We
Jacobites are loyal and true, not for the sake of
reward, but from affection and duty."
People of Buchan should understand the quota-
tion as indicative of the " stark love and kind-
ness " with which the Laird of Strichen was wont
to entertain his fellow-sportsmen in the lodge on
Mormond (vide Pratt's History ->f Bitchan, pp.
144-5.) P. S. A. SCOT.
The house was built in 1764. The same year
the village of Strichen, or Mormond village, was
founded by the Laird of Strichen, who must have
been, I think, grandfather to the present Lord
Lovat. The inscription over the doorway, " Eob
Gib," simply means " Good fellowship," and came
to be so used because he, on being asked by the
king how he was so devoted a servant to him,
answered, for " Stark love and friendship," and
so " Eob Gib " became a household word synony-
mous with good fellowship, and was a common
toast at feasts. It is not yet quite obsolete. Eob
Gib was sometimes the motto to a device on any
gift from one friend to another, the device being
probably a pair of right hands firmly grasped.
A STRICHEN MAN.
" THE ALTHORPE PICTURE GALLERY," &c. (5th
S. i. 348.) — In a copy of this which belonged to
Calder Campbell he has noted upon the title
" By Mary J. Jourdan." They were both Anglo-
Indian poets. She, the wife of Col. Jourdan of the
Madras Army, died in London 23rd Dec., 1865.
Besides the above, Mrs. Jourdan contributed to
the Bengal annuals, and published at Edinburgh,
by Hogg, in 1856, Mind's Mirror : Poetical
Sketches, with Minor Poems. By M. J. J — n.
A. G.
COMET OF 1539 (5th S. i. 359.)— The following
notice of this comet is taken from Pingre's
Cometographie, i. 500: —
"LaComete de cette annee fut observee depuis le 6
Mai jusqu'au 17. En Chine on ne la vit que le 10 Mai,
et elle dura vingt jours. Quelques Europeans la de-
couvrirent des le 30 Avril (note, Annal.Augstb., col. 1814).
Plusieurs lui donnent trois semaines de duree."
The comet does not appear to have been a con-
spicuous one. Pingre adds a good many unim-
portant particulars, which I can give if E. wishes
it. T. W. WEBB.
FIELD TELEGRAPHY (5th S. i. 367.) — A EEADER
will find a concise, but complete, paper on field
telegraphy in the Popular Science Review for
April,, published by Hardwicke. J. T. M.
CHARLES I. AS A POET (5th S. i. 322, 379.)—
In his zeal for " the Martyr's " clumsy triplets,
MR. WARREN is hardly ingenuous. I gave eleven
of the best verses, while Archbishop Trench has
given only ten. The Archbishop's actual words
are, —
" I have dealt somewhat boldly with this poem, of its
twenty-four triplets omitting all but ten, these ten
seeming to me to constitute a fine poem, which the
entire tiventy-four fail to do . . . . We are indebted to
Burnet for their preservation. He gives them in his
Memoirs of the Dukes of Hamilton, saying, ' A very
worthy gentleman who had the honour of waiting on
him there <at Carisbrook Castle), and was much trusted
by him, copied them out from the original, who voucheth
them to be a true copy.' "
Sir Horace Walpole quotes the whole twenty-
four verses from Bishop Burnet.
WALTER THORNBURY.
436
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5th S. I. MAV 30, 74.
PICOT OF CAMBRIDGE (4th S. xii. 475; 5th S. i.
191.) — Vicecomes, of course, means " Sheriff" in
England, and, indeed, in Normandy. The office
was that of vice-earl in both countries, and in this
comprised not only its present duties, but those of
a lord-lieutenant (the vice-earl proper of our day),
and many other duties, both military and civil,
of greater importance then than those that are
attached to either office now. But in Normandy
it was invariably conferred as an hereditary barony
of great extent, originating in Hollo's time. The
duchy was, in fact, parcelled out into a few vis-
counties, of which Cotentine was the greatest.
Picot was, I believe, a common baptismal, and
not a local, name. Various families, bearing various
names, are derived from different Normans called
Picot. In Cheshire there was a family of Picot,
alias Pigot, for many, many centuries; and, as
Cheshire, after the Conquest, bore much the same
relation to the rest of England as Cotentine did to
the remainder of the duchy, was, in fact, the very
kernel of Norman nationality ; so, I have no doubt,
Picot of the Palatine was one of those marauding
ruffians who dispossessed the innocent Saxons
(vide Mr. Freeman), who had treacherously dis-
possessed the innocent Britons. I regret, how-
ever, that I cannot help MR. JACKSON PIGOTT
further. T. H.
I find by an Illuminated Pedigree in the British
Museum, No. 1364, Harl. Collection, that Othe-
myles Picot, Baron of Boorne (or Brane), in Cam-
bridge, came, along with his wife Hugolina, to
England in the retinue of the Conqueror, and had
a grant of some twenty-nine manors in Cambridge-
shire, viz., Stow Waterbech, Middleton Trurn-
pington, &c., and, according to Thoroton's History
of Nottinghamshire, this Baron of Boorne had a
daughter, who married Paganus Peverell, signifer
Boberti Curthose in terra sancta, and a son, the
Lord Eobert Picot, who, having taken part in a
rebellion against William Rufus, forfeited all his
estates. I wish to know if this Lord Eobert Picot
left any descendants, and if he was ancestor to an
Aubrey Picot of Cambridge, living 1160, Sir Ralph
Picot, temp. Edward III., or Sir Randolph Picot,
of Ripon and Melmorby, Yorkshire, also temp.
Edward III. Othemyles Picot was the builder of
the churches of St. Gyles in Cambridge, and St.
Ives in Huntingdon. WM. JACKSON PIGOTT.
Dundrum, co. Down.
DR. ISAAC BARROW (5th S. i. 69, 196, 237, 317.)
— Dr. Isaac Barrow belonged to a family of Suffolk
extraction, who were the owners of Spinney Abbey,
in the parish of Wicken, in Cambridgeshire. This
estate was purchased by his great-grandfather,
Philip Barrow, in the reign of Queen Elizabeth,
and was sold in the middle of the next century to
Henry Cromwell. The Barrows were evidently of
the minor gentry, as they are not included in any
of the Heralds' Visitations. By the kindness of
the vicar, I had the opportunity last year of
examining the first volume of the parish register
of Wicken. It begins in June, 1564, and ends in
July, 1667, and I found between these dates the
following entries of the Barrows. It will be of
permanent use to those who are interested in this
family to have in print in " N. & Q." what is
recorded about them in Wicken Register : —
"1600, April 6. Philip Barrow, Esq., buried.
1617-18, Jan. 4. Martha, dau. of Isaac Barrow, Esq.,
bapt.
1627, Nov. 30. Eobert Greymoner, Clerke (Vicar of
Wicken), and Alice Barrow, married.
1629, Oct. 8. Isaac, son of Mr. Isaac Barrow, bapt.
1637, Aug. 13. Philip, son of Mr. Thos. Barrow and
Katherine, his wife, bapt.
1637, Dec. 28. Walter Clopton, Esq., and Mrs. Martha
Barrow, married.
1642, Sept. 11, Cecilia, dau. of Mr. Thos. Barrow,
buried.
1642, Sept. 17. Isaac Barrow, Esq., buried.
1643, June 25. Arthur, son of Arthur Barrow and
Anne, his wife, bapt.
1647, April 1. Mrs. Katherine Barrow, widow, buried.
1663, Oct. 20. Robert Everett and Anne Barrow,
married."
It should be added that Henry Barrow, a mem-
ber of this family, was vicar of the adjoining parish
of Iselham, and was buried there on 1st June,
1587. TEWARS.
LOWNDES (5th S. i. 227, 276.)— In the few books
mentioned by E. A. P. (5th S. i. 276) the list of
French bibliographical works is by no means ex-
hausted ; indeed, those noted by him are but the
most rudimentary, and in this branch of literature
the French are particularly rich. Among many
others, let me mention —
Bibliographic Instructive, &c., par G. F. De Bure, le
Jeune. 8vo. Paris, 1763. 10 vols. , including the Supple-
ment of the Catalogue de Gaignat.
Nouveau Dictionnaire de Bibliographie, par F. L.
Fournier. 8vo. Paris; 1809.
Catalogue des Livres Imprimes, &c., de M. C. Leber.
8vo. Paris, 1852. 4 vols.
Catalogue de M. Violet le Due. With Supplement.
8vo. Paris, 1843 and 1847.
Histoire des Livres Populaires, &c., par M. Charles
Nisard. 8vo. Paris, 1854. 2 vols.
Les Supercheries Litteraires Devoilees, par J. M.
Querard. 8m The New Edition. Paris, 1869-70.
3 vols.
Dictionnaire des Ouvrages Anonymes et Pseudonymes,
&c., par Barbier. 8vo. Paris, 1822-27. 4 vols., and the
New Edition at present in course of publication by M.
Paul Daffis, of Paris.
Then there are the numerous and excellent
bibliographical works of G. Peignot, S. Boulard.
L. Lalaune, E. Trerdet, G. Naudet, Collin de
Plancy, Gustave Brunei, Octave Delepierre, Paul
Lacroix, Le Bibliophile Jacob, Charles Monselet,
and many others. But the two works which
X. Y. desires to become acquainted with, I take
to be —
5th S. I. MAY 30, 74.1
NOTES AND QUERIES.
437
Tresor des Livres Rares, &c., Graesse, a very important
work, of which the completion has only lately appeared
at Dresden.
And—
Bibliographic des Ouvrages Relatifs & 1' Amour aux
Femmes, au Mariage, &c. 8vo. Turin, &c. 1871-73. 6vols.
(There have been two earlier editions of this work, both
very defective ; this latter edition is the only really
serviceable one).
Both these embrace German as well as French
books. For German literature, we have, among
others : —
Theophili Georgi Allgemeines Europaisches Biicher-
Lexicon. Leipzig. (Rather antiquated.)
And—
Index Locupletissimus Librorum qui ab Anno 1750 ad
Annum 1832, in Germania et in Terris Confinibus pro-
dierunt. Kayser, Leipzig. 4to. 1833-38. 6 vols.
H. S. A.
If X. Y. will turn to A List of the Books of
Reference in ike Reading Room of the British
Museum, second edition, 1871, index p. 282,
under "Bibliography," and to A Handbook for
Readers at the British Museum, by Thomas
Nichols, Longmans, 1866, p. 71 — both books
to be found in every library — he will find what
Continental bibliographers have done. And if he
will read Lowndes's Preface, X. Y. will see that
his question is somewhat curious. In fact, X. Y.
has put his question as if Y. X. = X. Y.
OLPHAR HAMST.
JAY : OSBORNE (5th S. i. 128, 195, 336.)— Lower
gives the surname Jay a local origin, from the name
of a township united with Heath in the parish of
Leintwardine, co. Hereford ; and Bowditch, in his
Suffolk Surnames, derives it from the Jay bird.
These are both probably erroneous. The American
Jays derive their origin from Pierre Jay, of
Rochelle, one of the Huguenots exiled from France
at the revocation of the Edict of Nantes in 1685,
and their name is, therefore, French, as I am
inclined to think is'also that of the English Jays.
Ferguson (English Surnames, pp. 42 and 95)
derives Osborne from the Norse, and interprets it
as " the divine bear." Anderson (Genealogy and
Surnames, p. 69) calls it a local surname, from the
river Ouse, in Yorkshire, and bourne ; Ouse bourne,
i. e., Ooze, or spring brook. Camden, in his
Remaines, gives it an Anglo-Saxon origin, from
hus, house, and beam, a child — a house-child or
adopted child. Whatever be its origin, it was, in
its variations of Osbornus, Osbern, Osborn, &c., in
common use, as a baptismal name, at the Conquest,
several persons bearing it occurring in Domesday.
The Kent family of that surname have been seated
there at least as long ago as the reign of Henry VI.
GASTON DE BERNEVAL.
Philadelphia, U.S.
If MR. JAY will look into the Life of John Jay,
Chief Justice of the United States, by his son, the
Hon. William Jay, printed in New York some
years ago, though I am unable to give the exact
date, he will find an account of the family and
name. From their records, it appears that the
family came from La Rochelle. One of Governor
Jay's descendants is the present American Minister
at Vienna. WEB — .
Newport, Rhode Island.
"SIMPSON" (5th S. i. 165, 233, 337.)— This dis-
cussion commenced with a botanical question, why
the weed groundsel is in some places called Simson,
or Simpson; and it was suggested that it was
probably derived through the French name for
groundsel, senegon, from the botanical name of the
plant Senecio.
This derivation is probably quite correct, and is
so given by most old writers on gardening matters.
Miller says of groundsel, " In the Eastern Counties
it is called Simson,OT, as I have heard it pronounced,
Sention, or Senshon, evidently from Senecio,
through the medium of the French Senesson."
The remarks on this question on p. 337 appear
to be framed in reply to an assertion that the
surname Simpson was derived from groundsel ! an
assertion certainly not made, nor even suggested,
in the original note. EDWARD SOLLY.
A. H. ROWAN (5th S. i. 267, 309.)— Memoirs of
Mr. Rowan and of his wife, with references to the
sources where further information can be found,
were published early in 1873 in the Christian
Freeman, a monthly journal of biography, pub-
lished by Whitfield, 178, Strand. The price, I
think, is twopence. CYRIL.
I can add but little to the quintuple record of
this strenuous Home-ruler, in setting right one
fold of his biographical drapery. MR. COLEMAN
and H. differ in their dates of his escape from
prison ; and I have a perfect remembrance of one
of the under-gaolers of the Dublin Newgate
(there were two of those functionaries, father and
son, by name Macdowal, who were something more
than suspected of assisting their prisoner's escape).
I do not recollect the year, but the fact is borne
upon my mind by the younger Macdowal having
frequently called on a near relative of mine who,
at about the same period, had been a temporary
tenant of Newgate for a (non) political libel, when
the bribery price — 500Z. — was alluded to by the
ex-gaoler without any disclaimer of its acceptance.
The date of Hamilton Rowan's pleading his
pardon in the Irish Court of King's Bench has
likewise slipped my memory, but I thoroughly
remember the fact, having been present on the
occasion. He appeared in the centre of the Utter
Bar's nearest seat, and was formally called on to
plead to the charge of high treason, whereto he as
formally pleaded, and put in the Royal pardon,
and was forthwith discharged.
438
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5th S. I. MAT 30, 74.
Be the date what it may, Hamilton Kowan's
imprisonment "for complicity with the rebellion
of 1798," as cited by S. T. P., is an obvious
anachronism ; he was too conscientious so to abuse
the Eoyal clemency, and too discreet to hazard
the penalties of that perilous era. Seventy-six
years have been too few to obscure their yesterday's
impression of my own Irish soldiering.
Hamilton Eowan having been my senior by just
twenty years, his son was as remotely my junior ;
but I remember a characteristic anecdote of him-
self and of his father, which was generally accepted
as an actual fact. Our families resided at no great
distance from each other, on the Dublin coast, near
Howth, where Mrs. Eowan had a populous aviary.
The father's continual discourses and eulogiums
on Liberty excited the son's sympathy towards the
feathered captives. One fine morning, before
breakfast, his mother found the cage- doors wide
open, and its occupants liberated by a less
mercenary Macdowal.
EDMUND LENTHALL SWIFTE.
[Hamilton Rowan addressed a manly petition to the
King in 1802. It was under the Castlereagh regime that
he was restored to his country and family. See note in
Harrington's Personal Sketches, \, 332, edit. 1869.]
LIFE AND OPINIONS OF PADRE SARPI (5th S. i.
184, 223, 243, 315, 397.)— I have never seen the
translation of Sarpi's life printed in 1641. Judging
from the pedantic " Address to the Eeader," given
"by MR. CROSSLEY, it must be more difficult to
understand than the original Italian.
EALPH N. JAMES.
Ashford, Kent.
SODA WATER (3rd S. iii. 131, 217 ; 4th S. v. 246,
306 ; 5th S. i. 348, 376.)— Since writing my last
note, I have come upon the following passage in a
letter from Dr. Saunders to Dr. Bradley, published
in the Medical and Physical Journal for De-
cember, 1802 :—
"The gaseous alkaline water, commonly called Soda
"Water, has long been used in this country to a consider-
able extent, and has for many years past been prepared
in England with great success. Mr. Paul is fully as
happy in this as in his other preparations ; and he has
introduced also the gaseous potash water, to which, in
certain cases, some practitioners give the preference."
I copy this extract from the appendix to The
Report made to the National Institute of France
in December, 1799 . . . . on the Artificial Mineral
Waters prepared at Paris by N. Paul & Co.
Translated from the French. London, 1 802.
E. B. P.
A picture and account of the gazogene E. B. P.
speaks of, extracted from Magellan, may be found
in the Annual Register for 1778, xxi. 132. It is
there stated that " the world is obliged for this
curious discovery to Dr. Priestley, who first pub
lished his method of making Pyrmont water in the
year 1772." CHARLES F. S. WARREN, M.A.
EEV. STEPHEN CLARKE (5th S. i. 208, 255, 298.)
— I possess a volume of sermons, of which the
following is the title : —
" Fifteen Discourses upon the following subjects, viz.,
The Dignity and Humiliation of the Son of God; The
Resurrection of Christ ; The Exaltation of Christ, and
the Descent of the Holy Ghost ; The Certainty of a
future Judgment; The Goodness of God Almighty; The
Triumphs of a true Christian Faith ; The Necessity of
Christian Practice in order to Happiness, and the Cer-
tainty of Happiness upon Christian Practice ; The
Worship of God in the Beauty of Holiness explained and
enforc'd ; The Duty of mutual Love explain'd and en-
f'orc'd ; The happy Consequences of Afflictions to sincere
Christians ; The Treatment which Persons in Distress
meet with from their Acquaintance and Enemies con-
sider'd and dissuaded from. To which is subjoin'd, A
Brief Enquiry into the Causes why the Word Preach'd
doth not Profit ; together with a Consideration of the
Folly and Danger of being influenc'd by 'em. By Stephen
Clarke, M.A., Rector of Burythorpe, in Yorkshire. Lon-
don : Printed by John Applebee, and sold by W. Mears,
at the Lamb without Temple-Bar. MDCCXXVII."
The discourses are dedicated " To the Eight
Honourable John Viscount Lymmington." The
volume is octavo, containing 296 pages.
J. G. B.
Stephen Clark, Cl., of Berrythorpe, voted at
the Yorkshire election in January, 1741-2.
There was an earlier Stephen Clarke, minister
of St. John's Church, Beverley, whose daughter
Susanna married William Lodge, B.A., Eector of
Sapperton, co. Lincoln, from 1692 to 1737. She
was born January 7, 1676, and died March 27,
1736. (M. I. at Sapperton).
A Joshua Clark, M.A., was Eector of Sapperton
from 1679 to 1687. This was, probably, the
Joshua Clarke, Eector of Somerby in the same
neighbourhood (and Prebendary of Lincoln), who
published a Visitation Sermon preached at Gran-
tham in 1697. The Eector of Somerby had a
daughter Mary, who married Simon Every, Eector
of Navenby, co. Lincoln, and afterwards fifth
baronet of that name ; and another daughter who
was married to Jacob Butler, Esq., of Barnwell,
near Cambridge. Further information as to any
of these Clarkes would be gladly received.
J. H. CLARK, M.A. •
Crimplesham, Downham.
THE FAROE ISLANDS (5th S. i. 329, 394.)— Some '
brief notices of a recent visit to these islands may
be found in Six Weeks in the Saddle : a Painter's
Journal in Iceland, by S. E. Waller (Macmillan).
0.
THE WATERLOO AND PENINSULAR MEDALS
(5th S. i. 47,98,136, 217, 235, 336, 378, 396.)— After
the information which SURG.-MAJOR FLEMING has
been kind enough to give so fully, there can be no
doubt that medical officers were included in the
grant of the Waterloo Medal. It is strange that a
work of such high character for correctness as
5th 8. 1. MAY 30, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
439
Hart's Army List — I am referring to one as far
back as 1851 — should omit from its list of war
services of the medical officers all mention of it.
No notice is taken even in the case of Sir James
E. Grant, chief of the Medical Department, nor in
that of Mr. Gunning, surgeon-in-chief, who at-
tended to the Prince of Orange when wounded,
and for which he is stated to have received the
Order of the Netherlands Lion ; nor in that of
Dr. Hume, though it is recorded that he has
received the War Medal with ten clasps, and so
throughout. This is misleading.
So, also, if the order of 1815-1816 is general,
including departments with their civil elements,
as MR. FLEMING states, then there should be a
prefix of W to their names in other departments,
as in the medical, which there is not; nor is there,
I am bound to say, in a War Office Army List, and
I have referred back to 1820. The natural in-
ference therefrom is that the grant" is not general,
but confined to the Medical Department only.
W. DlLKE.
Chicliester.
'' A HEAVY BLOW AND GREAT DISCOURAGEMENT "
(5th S. i. 369, 395) will be found in the anonymous
letter, received 26th October, 1605, by Lord
Mounteagle, and supposed to be written by his
brother-in-law Tresham, in which warning was
given of the Gunpowder Plot, and the design, in
consequence, frustrated. W. T. M.
Shinfield Grove.
THE CUCKOO AND NIGHTINGALE (5th S. i. 387) : —
" Thy liquid notes that close the eve of day,
First heard before the shallow cuckoo's bill,
Portend success in love."
Is not this the prognostication concerning which
W. J. T. inquires ? In my note-book, the lines
are ascribed to Milton, in whose works I am not
well read enough to tell the place where they can
be found. A. S.
" TOWN'S HALL " (5th S. i. 285.)— Some years
ago a small building was erected in this town,
little more than a double cottage indeed, but in-
tended, partly at least, for various committees, &c.,
to use for their place of meeting. I always heard
this spoken of as " The Town's Hall." In a neigh-
bouring village there was a certain respectable
farmer, who was generally in office as tax collector,
assessor, constable, overseer, or guardian ; I have
known him spoken of sportively as the " town's
husband." I imagine this mode of expression to
be a localism, though perhaps not peculiar to this
part of Yorkshire. It is odd enough it should be
here at all, for the custom in this dialect is to leave
out the possessive 's when used in other parts oJ
England. Thus John wife, Smith carriage, &c.,
are invariably used for John's wife, Smith's car-
riage, &c. A. E.
Almondbury.
" SEE ONE PHYSICIAN " (5th S. i. 228, 276, 358.)
— An old Greek poet, whose name I do not know,
says —
IIoAAwv larpojv et'croSos fj.' aTrwAecrci'.
Many doctors have been the death of me !
Here, then, it does not hold that " in the multitude
of counsellors there is safety."
" EDMUND TEW, M.A.
E. M., M.D., says, " this epigram is in the col-
lection of ' S. Joseph Jekyll.' " He will confer a
favour if he will kindly give the full title of the-
book. Jekyll's epigrams crop up in various works,
but I never heard of the " collection " of them
mentioned by your correspondent. The epigrams
of the witty lawyer are so clever that the book
must be of great interest, and I should much like
to obtain it. H. P. D.
[Jekyll's name having been mentioned, a note may be
made of the fact that when Lord Grimston (in 1834),
waltzing at Hatfield House, happened to knock down the
aged Marchioness of Salisbury, Jekyll wrote the follow-
ing epigram, in which (it is said) the word "Conserva-
tives " was first used as signifying " Tories " : —
" Conservatives of Hatfield House
AVere surely ' harum-scarum ';
What could reforming Whigs do worse
Than knocking down ' Old Sarum ' ? "]
" PERCY, THE TRUNK-MAKER " (5th S. i. 308.) —
I remember reading a very interesting account
of this case in Burke's Romance of the Peerage,
which was published about twenty years since, in
4 vols. 8vo. E. E.
The Case of James Percy, Claymant to the Earl-
dom of Northumberland, was printed in 1680 or
1685, in London, in folio. It is rare ; but there
is a copy in the British Museum. The line of his
alleged descent as heir male of the Percies is given
in a note to the later editions of Burke's Peerage.
Some remarks on this claim are contained in Sir
Egerton Brydges's Restituta, vol. ii., pp. 519, 528.
See also an article in the Collectanea Topographic^
et Genealogica. J. MANUEL.
NOTES ON BOOKS, &o.
Joannis Coleti Enarratio in Primam Epistolam S. Pauli
ad Corinthios. Edited by J. H. Lupton, M.A. (Bell
& Sons.)
SOME expositions on the First Epistle to the Corinthians
by Colet, Dean of St. Paul's, are now published for the
first time with a translation and notes. Dean Colet
founded St. Paul's School, and the present thoughtfully
written introduction, as well as translation, are by the
sub-master of that foundation, who, judging from the
small quotation on the fly-leaf, ascribed to Donald Lup-
ton, 1637, "and truely this great Deane of St. Paul's
taught and lived like St. Paul," is not the first of hia
name who has done honour to the same worthy. Mr.
Lupton's Introduction is specially worth reading, and
contains some interesting characteristics of the Dean's
life and literary productions. Two ideas are shown to
pervade Colet's publications : the thought of unity, as
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that which is good, in opposition to multiplicity, which
is evil ; and the thought of Christian love or charity, as
the highest spirit to which man can attain. Colet would
appear to have expressed himself with too much severity
in condemning law-suits. He assumes that the state of
celibacy has in every case a higher stamp of approval
than the state of wedlock ; he is far too austere in his
sentiments respecting the study of heathen authors, and
is very mystical in his notions of astronomy. Such was
the tenor of some of the Dean's opinions when leaving
the Continental Universities, but as life advanced many
of his paradoxical and overstrained expressions became
modified. Mr. Lupton's volume will be found very
instructive, and indicative of study and research.
The Sacred Poetry of Early Religions. Two Lectures
delivered in St. Paul's Cathedral, Jan. 27 and Feb. 3,
1874. By K. W. Church, M.A., Deaii of St. Paul's.
(Macmillan & Co.)
THE first lecture is devoted to a consideration of the
hymns of the Vedas, the sacred books of Brahmanic re-
ligion, and, in contrasting the Veda with the Psalms, the
second is taken up. "To pass," says Dean Church,
" from the Veda to the Psalms is to pass at one bound
from poetry, heightened, certainly, by a religious senti-
ment, to religion itself, in its most serious mood and
most absorbing form. . . . The Psalms stand up like a
pillar of fire and light in the history of the early world."
These lectures follow worthily on those delivered by the
Dean in 1872 and 1873, and will receive that careful
study which is due to whatever proceeds from the pen of
the writer of St. Anseim.
On Beer. A Statistical Sketch. By M. Vogel. (Triibner.)
THE brewing trade in the leading brewing countries is
here examined ; and while statistics naturally form no
inconsiderable portion of M. Vogel's small volume, he
contrives to give an interest to the subject by com-
mencing each chapter with a history of " beer " in the
country treated of. M. Vogel rightly, as we conceive,
excepts malt liquors from that general condemnation in
which they and spirits are so often included, and states
that, in France, since brewing has decreased and the tax
on beer has been raised, drunkenness has notoriously
spread.
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M.A., Mathematical Lecturer of Ch. Ch., Oxford, has
issued (James Parker) the fifth book of Euclid, proved
algebraically so far as it relates to commensurable mag-
nitudes. Full directions are given as to going through the
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on the Vermont Coinage, which has been reprinted from
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Disestablishment: What would come of it ? (Hunt & Co.)
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take not, the whole question is involved in abstract prin-
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considerations as to whether the Church would or would
not sufferby disestablishment.— The Professor of Greek in
the University of Aberdeen, Mr. W. D. Geddes, M.A., has
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lecture on the philologic uses of the Celtic tongue, which
cannot fail to interest many of our readers. — Inklings of
Areal Autometry is the title of a small pamphlet by
William Houlston (Simpkin, Marshall & Co.). — All in-
terested in the subject will find many details connected
with the Wesleys in An Account of the Remarkable
Musical Talents of several Members of the Wesley Family,
which has been compiled by Mr. Winters of Waltham
Abbey. — The Bishop of Peterborough's speech, delivered
in the House of Lords in April, when moving for a Select
Committee to inquire into the laws relating to patronage,
simony, and exchange of benefices in the Church °of
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CONTENTS. — N° 23.
NOTES :— " Nobody and Somebody," 441— The New Dodsley—
The "Callings" of our Present M. P. s— Heraldic Literature-
Inscription on a Tombstone near Apostles' Battery, Port
Royal, Jamaica— Hanging and Resuscitation— Hair turning
•White, 444— Ciphers— Hoey*s Court, Dublin, the Birthplace
of Swift— Shelley's Titles to Poems— Epidemic in Accidents,
445— Mottoes of Cities, Towns, and Royal Burghs — The
use of " It " — Fine Arts Catalogues, 446.
QUERIES : — Prison Memoirs— The Rev. John Wheelwright's
" Vindication "—Thomas Fuller's "Library of British His-
torians"—Grants of Nobility to Foreigners, 447— "Yale
College Magazine " — " The Pauline Magazine "—William
and Mary — Old Song — Lord Chatham and Bailey's
" Dictionary "— Columbus, 443 — " Out of the frying-pan
into the fire " — Portrait— Sir William (Admiral) Penn— John
Luson — The Golden Rose — Sheridan — Heraldic— A Jew's
Will — "Beggar's Barm" — West Felton, Shropshire —
" Junxit amor vivos," <fec., 449.
REPLIES :— Shotten Herring, 449 — " Prester John " and the
Arms of the See of Chichester, 450 — Mortimer's " History of
England," 451 — George Sutherland of Force — "Quiz" —
" Whele " — Pedro Fernandez de Quiros— " Scavage," 452 —
" Mumming "—Ley den University — Thoman or Tomaun—
Bacon's "Essays" — "Je ne Sc.ais Quoi" Club— " Legem
servare," &c. — Peculiar Spellings — "The Private Memoirs,"
&c., 453— Charles II. — " As Clean as a Clock "—Cold
Harbour — Wonderful Automata — Extraordinary Birth of
Triplets, 454— Bull-Baiting— " S " versus " Z " — Use of In-
verted Commas, &c., 455 — De Defectibus Missae — "Jure
Hereditario" — Charles I.: Account for Interment, 456—
" The Night Crow " — The Acacia — Heraldic—" Mask "—Ox-
berry's "Dramatic Biography," 457— Short-hand Writing —
Buda— Col- in Col- Fox— The Oak and the Ash— The Waterloo
and Peninsular Medals—" Mathematical Recreations," 458.
Notes on Books, &c.
" NOBODY AND SOMEBODY."
Trinculo, in The Tempest (Act iii. sc. 2), says : —
" This is the tune of our catch, played by the picture
of No-body."
To this passage Mr. Singer, in his edition of Shak-
speare (1856, vol. i. p. 59), appends the following
note : —
" The picture of No-body was a common sign. There
is also a wood cut prefixed to an old play of No- body and
Some-body, which represents this notable person."
Having had the pleasure of perusing the " old
play" of Nobody and Somebody, a few stray notes
regarding it may not be amiss in the pages of
" N. & Q."
The plot may be very briefly described. Archi-
gallo, King of Britain, on account of his " tirannous
rule," is dethroned and banished. Elidure, Archi-
gallo's second brother, being of an exceedingly
studious and retiring disposition's persuaded, much
against his will, by the nobles to ascend the throne.
The following lines from this part of the play are
spirited, and well worth quotation (I quote in
every case verbatim, even to the punctuation) :—
" Enter Elidure.
" Cornw. See maddam where he comes reading a booke.
" Lady. My Lord and husband, with your leaue this
booke
[s fitter for an Vniuersitie
Then to be lookt on, and the Crowne so neere :
You know these Lords for tyrannic haue sworne
To banish Archigallo from the throne,
And to invest you in the royaltie :
Will you not thanke them, and with bounteous hands
Sprinckle their greatnes with the names of Earles,
Dukes, Marquesses, and other higher termes.
Elid. My deerest loue, the essence of my soule,
And you my honord Lords, the sute you make,
Though it be iust for many wrongs imposd,
Yet vnto me it seemes an iniurie.
What is my greatnes by my brothers fall,
But like a starued body nourished
With the destruction of the other lymbes.
Innumerable are the griefes that waite
On horded treasures, then much more on Crownes :
The middle path, the golden meane for me,
Leaue me obedience, take you Maiestie."
Archigallo, in his banishment, is disturbed in
the following soliloquy, by hunters : —
" Archi. I was a King, but now I am [a] slaue,
How happie were I in this base estate,
If I had neuer tasted royaltie :
But the remembrance that I was a King,
Vnseasons the Content of pouertie,
I heare the hunters musicke, heere He He,
To keepe me out of sight till they passe by."
He finds that the hunters are in attendance on
his brother Elidure ; and the latter, learning who
the banished man is, gives expression to his
feelings in words akin to remorse. Elidure inter-
cedes with the nobles for his brother, and Archi-
gallo, on promise of conduct different from that
which led to his banishment, is restored to his
former honours : —
" Morg. Euen in the woods where we did hunt the
There did the tender harted Elidure
Meete his distressed Brother, and so wrought
By his importunate speech with all his Peeres,
That after much deniall, yet at last
They yeelded their allegiance to your Lord,
Whom now we must acknowledge our dread King,
And you our princelie Queene"
Archigallo, very soon after his restoration, sickens
and dies. Elidure again becomes king, only to be
immediately deprived of the dignity by his brothers,
Peridure and Vigenius. The two last named, in
their turn, quarrel with each other for the supre-
macy, and in a civil contention are both slain. The
upshot is that Elidure, for the third time, becomes
King of Britain. It is in the underplot, so to
speak, that the interest of the play centres, and
the nondescript characters of Nobody and Some-
body are capitally drawn. The following lines
will serve to introduce Nobody : —
"Somebody. That is the gallant, apprehend him
straight,
Tis he that sowes sedition in the Land,
Vnder the couler of being charitable,
When search is made for such in euery Inne,
Though I haue scene them housd> the Chamberlaine
For gold will answere there is Nobody :
He for all bankrouts is a common baile,
And when thp -ecution should be serud
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Vpon the sureties they find Nobody :
In priuate houses who so apt to lie,
As those that haue beene taught by Nobody,
Seruants forgetfull of their Maisters friends,
Being askt how many were to speake with him
Whilst he was absent, they say Nobody,
Nobody breakes more glasses in a house,
Then all his wealth hath power to satisfie :
If you will free this Citty then from shame,
Sease Nobody, and let him beare the blame."
Again : —
" Enter the 2 man and a prentice.
" 2 Man. Now you rascall, who haue you beene withall
at the alehouse '.
" Prent. Sooth I was with Nobody.
" Nobod. Not with me.
" 2 Man. And who was drunke there with you ?
" Prent. Sooth Nobody was drunke with me.
" Nobod. 0 intolerable ! they would make me a
drunkard to[o],
I cannot indure any longer, I must hence,
No patience with such scandals can dispence.
" 2 Man. Well sirra, if I take you so againe, He so
belabour you :
0 neighbour good morrow.
" 1 Man. Good morrow,
" 2 Man. You are sad me thinkes,
" 1 Man. Faith sir I haue cause, I have lent a friend of
mine a hundred pounde, and haue Nobodyes worde for
the payment, bill, nor bond, nor any thing to shew.
" 2 Man. Haue you Nobodies worde, He assure you that
Nobodie is a good man, a good man I assure you neigh-
bor, Nobodie will keepe his worde, Nobodies worde is as
good as his bond.
" 1 Man. Ey, say you so, nay then lets drinke downe
sorrow,
If none would lend, then Nobody should borrow."
Nobody and Somebody are taken into custody,
and what they have to say for themselves before
King Elidure and his court, may be gathered
from the following extract : —
" Som. My Lord I tras't him, and so found him out
But should your Lordship not beleeue my proofe,
Examine all the rich and wealthy chuffes,
Whose full cramd Garners to the roofes are fild,
In euery dearth who makes this scarsitye,
And euery man will clearely quit himselfe,
Then consequently, it must be No-body.
Base copper money is stampt, the mint disgrast,
Make search who doth this, euery man cleares me,
So consequently it must be No-body.
Besides, whereas the nobles of the land,
And Gentlemen built goodly manner houses,
Fit to receiue a King, and all his traine,
And there kept royall hospitality,
Since this intestine monster No-body,
Dwels in these goodly houses keepes no traine,
A hundred Chimnies, and not one cast smoke,
And now the cause of these, mock-begger Hal,
Is this they, are dwelt in by No-body,
For this out of the countrey he was chast.
" Corn, now No-body, what can you say to this.
" Clo. My M. hath good cards, on his side He warrant
him.
" No. my Lord, you know that slanders are no proofes,
nor words without their present euidence,
If things were done, they must be done by some-body,
Else could they haue no being. Is corne hoorded,
some-body Lords it, else it would be delt,
In mutuall plentie throughout all the land,
Are their rents raisd, if No-body should doe it,
then should it be vndone. Is
Base money stampt, and the kings letters forgd,
Some-body needes must doe it, therefore not I,
And where he saies, great houses long since built,
Lye destitute, and wast because inhabited,
By No-body my Hedge, I answer thus,
If Some-body dwelt therein, I would giue place.
Or wold he but alow those chimnies fire,
They would cast cloudes to heauen, the Kitchin-foode
It would releeue the poore, the sellers beere,
It would make strangers drinke, but he commits
These outragies then laies the blame on me,
And for my good deeds, I am made a scorne.
I onely giue the tired a refuge seat,
The vnclothd garments, and the starued meate."
There are numerous allusions in the play, one or
two of which I may point out. I have not been
able to tax my memory with a reference confirming
the following extract. We know that prisoners
are now " imprinted to the life " by photography.
If what I am now about to quote is to be relied on,
something of the kind was evidently known in the
reign of James I. —
" Somb. What has he scapt ys.
" Const. He is gone my Lord.
" Somb. It shall be thus, now you haue scene his shape,
Let him be straight imprinted to the life :
His picture shall be set on euery stall,
And proclamation made, that he that takes him,
Shall haue a hundred pounds of Sombody,
Country and Citty, I shall thus set free,
And haue more roome to worke my villanie."
Pistol's " gourd and fullam " allusion (Merry Wives
of Windsor, Act i. sc. 3) —
. ..." for gourd and fullam holds,
And high and low beguile the rich and poor " —
may give some interest to the following quota-
tions : —
" Sico. Giue me some bales of dice. What are these ?
" Som. Those are called high Fulloms.
" Clo. He Fullom you for this.
" Som. Those low Fulloms.
' C. They may chance bring you as hie as the Gallowes.
'Som. Those Demi-bars.
' Clow. Great reason you shovld come to the barre
before the gallows.
' Som. Those bar Sizeaces.
' Clo. A couple of Asses indeed.
' Som. Those Brisle dice.
" Clo. Tis like they brisle, for I am sure theile breed
anger.
" Sicop. Now sir, as you haue compast all the Dice,
So I for cards."
And again : —
"Clo. Nay looke you heere, heares one that for his
bones is pretily stuft. Heares fulloms and gourds : heeres
tall-men & low-men. Heere trayduce ace, passedge
comes a pace."
Why some of these dice were called " Fullams,"
does not very clearly appear. Gilford inclines to
the idea that they were so called " either because
Fulham was the resort of sharpers, or because they
were chiefly manufactured there." This opinion is
doubted by Nares (see Glossary, edition 1872,
5th S. I. JUXE 6, 74]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
443
vol. i. p. 339). Mr. Singer, however, speaks with-
out hesitation, and says, " The false dice were
chiefly made at Fulham, hence the name " (Singer's
Shakespeare, vol. i. p. 218). Mr. Dyce, one of the
latest editors of Shakspeare, leaves the matter
much as I have stated it (Shakespeare's Works,
1868, vol. ix. p. 191).
The next passage I shall quote from the play is
of considerable interest, if for no other reason than
that, until now, no writer has been known to
mention, so far as I can trace, the custom it speaks
of, except William Kemp, in his Nine Daies
Wonder, 1600. Mr. Collier says (Hist, of English
Dram. Poetry, 1831, vol. iii. p. 413) :—
" It will be concluded that pick-pockets also frequented
the crowded playhouses. That unique tract, Kemp's
Nine Days' Wonder, 1600, giving an account of his
•dancing a morris from London to Norwich, makes mention
of a mode of treating cut-purses when they were detected
at theatres, which I find no where else adverted to by
any writer : they were seized and tied to a post on the
stage, exposed to the gaze and recognition of the whole
audience."
As Kemp's curious volume has been reprinted
by the Camden Society (1840 ; edited by the late
Mr. Dyce) since Mr. Collier wrote his excellent
history, I shall quote, for the sake of reference, the
passage as it is in the reprint (p. 6) : —
" In this towne [Burntwood] two Cut-purses were taken,
that with other two of their companions followed mee
from Lodon (as many better disposed persons did) : but
these two dy-doppers gaue out when they were appre-
hended, that they had laid wagers and betted about my
iourney; wherupon the Officers bringing them to my
Inne, I iustly denyed their acquaintance, sauing that I
remembred one of them to be a noted Cut-purse, such a
one as we tye to a poast on our stage, for all people to
wonder at, when at a play they are taken pilfring."
This play of Nobody and Somebody furnishes a
•confirmation of what Kemp says : —
" somebody once pickt a pocket in this Play-house yard,
was hoysted on the stage, and shamd about it."
As there is no date to the play, the year in which
it was printed must remain a matter of conjecture.
John Trundle, the publisher, as far as I can learn,
carried on business, perhaps, from 1598 until, at
least, 1625. Ben Jonson, in Every Man in his
Humour, makes reference to Trundle in these
words (Act i. sc. 2) : —
" Well, if he read this with patience I "11 be gelt, and
troll ballads for Master John Trundle yonder, the rest of
my mortality."
To this passage Gifford adds the following note : —
"With respect to Master John Trundle, he was a
printer, who lived at the sign of the ' Nobody ' (a very
humble designation), in Barbican. It appears, however,
that he dealt in something better than ballads, having
published Greene's Tu Quoqw, Westward for Smelts, and
other fugitive and popular pieces of the day."
We know, also, that Trundle published in 1625
Thomas Dekker's Rod for Run-Awayes. The date
of Nobody and Somebody belongs to some year
between 1598 and 1625. I think the following
lines prove, however, that it was not written
before 1604 :—
. . . . " When the King
Knighted the lustie gallants of the Land
Nobody then made daintie to be knighted,
And indeede kept him in his knowne estate."
The weakness, or whatever else it may be called,
which Elizabeth's successor had for knighting his
subjects is well known, and is frequently alluded
to in our old plays. It is said of Nobody that he —
"built Pest-houses, and other places of retirement in
the sicknes time for the good of the Cittie."
This allusion is evidently to the London Plague
of 1603-4. Then, again, there is this passage : —
'•' Nobody. He bring the Terns through the middle of
it [the cityj, empty Moore-ditch at my owne charge, and
build vp Paules-steple without a collection. I see not
what becomes of these collections."
Mr. Dyce (Shakespeare's Works, 1868, vol. ix.,
p. 278), quoting Nott, says : —
" In 1614, it [Moor-ditch] was to a certain degree
levelled, and laid out into walks."
If the text can be read to indicate that the im-
provement pointed out by Nott had not been made
when the play was written, Nobody and Somebody
must have appeared before 1614. I believe I
am right in stating that the distinguished Anglo-
German scholar, Ludwig Tieck, when in England
in the early part of the century, had this play copied,
and summed up its character in one word — " ex-
cellent." S.
THE NEW DODSLEY. — At vol. iii., p. 178, of
Mr. W. C. Hazlitt's new edition of Dodsley's Old
Plays, in Act i. sc. 2 of Bishop Still's most
amusing comedy of Gammer Gurton's Needle, is
the following passage : —
" Tom Tankard's cow (by Gog's bones) she set me up
her sail,
And flinging about his halse aker, fisking with her tail,
As though there had been in her arse a swarm of bees,
And I had not cried ' tphrowh, whore ' she 'ad leapt out
of his lees."
To the words halse aker, in the second line, George
Steevens, who is generally reputed the most sen-
sible of the Shakspeare commentators, has appended
the following note, to which Mr. W. C. Hazlitt has
added the weight of his authority : —
" I believe we should read halse anchor, or anker, as it
was anciently spelt : a naval phrase. The halse or halser
was a particular kind of cable. Shakespeare, in his
Antony and Cleopatra, has an image similar to this : —
' The brize upon her, like a cow in June,
Hoists sail and flies.' "
Now, in spite of George Steevens being pronounced
by the most cautious of human beings, the Cam-
bridge editors of Shakspeare, to have " brought to
his task diligent and methodical habits, and great
antiquarian knowledge, thus supplementing the
defects of his senior partner, Johnson," I venture to
assert that, in the present instance, he has written
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5th 8. I. JUNE 6, 74,
what closely resembles egregious nonsense. So
far from halse aker being a " a naval phrase," it is
nothing more or less than halfe aker, i. e., half
acre, the measure and familiar name of the little
enclosure in which Tom Tankard's cow, three
hundred and odd years ago, galloped about with
her tail up, as, under similar circumstances, her
descendant would do at the present day. The
long / and long s are hardly distinguishable, and
acre in those times was almost invariably spelt aker.
See, for instance, Peter Levins's Rhyming Dictionary
of 1570, where An Aker and A Baker are placed
together ; and a thousand other instances might
be given. F. CUNNINGHAM.
THE " CALLINGS " OF OUR PRESENT M.P.s. —
You inserted a note of mine (4th S. xi. 342) con-
taining a list of the "callings" of M.P.s before
the days of the ballot. I have, therefore, prepared
a comparison with the House elected after the first
General Election upon that system. The following
table may be of interest : the first column refer-
ring to pre-ballot days, and the second to the pre-
sent House : —
Lawyers
Sons of Peers
Squires
Army
Merchants
Baronets ...
Sons of M.P.s
Sons of Baronets ...
Bankers
Knights
Sons of Knights
Navy ...
129
109
109
106
98
68
58
29
18
13
12
9
139
92
129
95
100
64
55
25
24
11
17
12
Brewers
Engineers
Diplomatists
Newspaper Proprietors
Medical Men
Peers ...
8
8
7
7
6
5
17
8
6
9
6
5
University Professors
Farmers
Dissenting Ministers
Architect
Accountant
Miners
5
2
2
1
1
0
4
3
1
0
1
2
R. PASSINGHAM.
HERALDIC LITERATURE. — It will be a mis-
fortune if the historical student, through the dis-
continuance of the Herald and Genealogist, should
lose MR. WOODWARD'S " Essay on Heraldic Marks
of Illegitimacy," to which he incidentally alludes
in " N. & Q." 5th S. i. 49. The discontinuance of
the Herald is itself to be regretted. Dr. Howard's
Miscellanea Genealogica et Heraldica will not fill
the void. It is not sufficiently critical. Will
someone start a work as a successor to the Herald ?
I know no one so well qualified as MR. WOODWARD
himself, if his other vocations will admit of his
devoting to it the necessary time and attention.
I cannot doubt that such a work, if well conducted,
as I am sure it would be under MR. WOODWARD'S
care, would receive ample support.
JOHN MACLEAN.
Hammersmith.
BELLS. — The following inscriptions are on the
two bells of the old parish church (S. Michael's)
of North Otterington, Yorkshire, which is now
being restored. The smaller bell has —
" Holiness to the Lord.
1658."
The large bell —
" Jehove sanctitatem consonemus soror parvula.
R. G. IP. 1 C. 1689."
JOHN HUTTON.
Solberge, Northallerton.
INSCRIPTION ON A TOMBSTONE NEAR APOSTLES'
BATTERY, PORT ROYAL, JAMAICA. — Crest, a cock
crescent ; motto, " Dieu sur tout " : —
" Here lies the body of Lewis Goldy, Esqre, who departed
this life at Port Royal, Dec. 22d, 1736, aged 80 years.
He was born at Montpellier, in France, but left that
country for his religion, and came to settle in this island,
where he was swallowed up in the great earthquake,
1692; and by the providence of God was by another
shock thrown into the sea, and miraculously escaped by
swimming, until a boat picked him up. He lived many
years after, and was held in great reputation, beloved by
all who knew him, and much lamented at his death.
This gentleman lived 44 years after the earthquake, and
was a member of the Honourable Legislative Council of
the Island for many years."
The above is a bond fide epitaph, and was given
me by an officer serving on board H.M.S. " Doris "^
in her former commission, and seems to me deci-
dedly worthy of record in " N. & Q." A. H. B.
Oxford.
HANGING AND RESUSCITATION. — The Gentle-
man's Magazine (1800, p. 108) gives an account of
a woman revived after being hanged, who did not
remember her leaving the prison, or any subsequent
fact ; " she came to herself as if she awakened out
of a sleep, not recovering the use of her speech by
slow degrees, but in a manner altogether, beginning
to speak just where she left off on the gallows."
She said she had been in a green meadow; which
curiously fits in with a story told in the New
Monthly Magazine, about 1826, about a criminal
called John Hayes, who, in 1782, was brought after
his execution to be dissected by Sir Wm. Blizard.
He revived ; and he could remember passing St.
Andrew's Church, Holborn, on his way to execution.
" Then I thought I was in a beautiful green fieldr
and that is all I remember till I found myself in
the dissecting room." " Yet," adds the Magazine,
" there were no green fields between St. Andrew's
and Tyburn." CYBIL.
HAIR TURNING WHITE. — Let us note the evi-
dence of a witness in the Tichborne case, who
deposed (Times, May 1st, 1873, p. 14, col. 5) that,
on the night after hearing of his father's death, he
5th S. I. JUNE 6, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
dreamed that he saw his father killed before his
eyes ; and his emotion was so great that, when he
awoke from this dream of horror, his hair had
turned quite white. CYRIL.
CIPHERS. — As there have already been articles
on cryptography, as ciphers of .various kinds have
otherwise occasionally appeared, and as some years
ago I invented ciphers of the following descriptions,
which I have not yet seen in print, it may interest,
if not prove useful, to some persons to have them
inserted in " N. & Q.," as literal arrangement may
be varied ad libitum.
1. The common alphabet, converted into Few
My Block Quartz Sphinx Judg, numbered and
opposed thus : —
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26
abcdefghijk 1 mno p q r B t u vwxyz
fewmy b I o c k q v a r t z s phinxjudg
may be used for writing in cipher. For, as under
the numbers 3 15 13 5 1 14 4 20 18 25 we find
the letters comeandtry, so would
the letters w t ayfrmipd\>e the re-
ciprocal cipher for " Come and try," whose principle
is self-evident. The entire cipher is quite perfect,
inasmuch as not one letter thereof is numerically
alphabetic ; while, to render it more efficient, when
any double vowel or double consonant might occur,
the repeated letter could be ciphered by & ; so that as
under the numbers 7 15 15 4 4 1 25 we have the
alphabetic letters goo d d a y, we have also,
under these, the cipher Z t & m & f d for the pre-
sent appropriate salutation, " Good day."
2. By spelling words with the bottom line, two
other ciphers may be obtained, one literal, the other
numeral ; as i h d b m u y o n e, or 9 8 4 2 13 21
25 15 14 5, " Come and try " ; and s li & y & m e,
or 26 8 & 25 & 13 5, " Good day."
3. By coinpactiy arranging the words, thus —
mysphinxblock
f cwqvar t zjudg
the opposing reciprocal letters would forthwith
form the ciphers d u f y i r c x n e, " Come and
try " ; Ic u & c & i e, " Good day." J. BEALE.
HOEY'S COURT, DUBLIN, THE BIRTHPLACE OF
SWIFT. — A few days ago, paying a visit to Dublin,
curiosity induced me to explore that very uninviting
locality, Hoey's Court, after an absence of nearly
thirty years. I found it in a fearful state of dirt
and dilapidation, the old house on the right hand
of the entrance from Werburgh Street, formerly
pointed out as the scene of Swift's birth, had
vanished, or had been replaced by a mean and
dirty modern brick dwelling. The other old houses
of the Court, which formerly were occupied by
high government and legal functionaries of the
adjoining Castle and legal offices, were all pulled
down, with the exception of three or four in a
fearful state of ruin, and from these the whole of
the old carved-oak wainscot, with which the prin-
cipal walls and staircases had, in my recollection,
been lined, had been long removed ; indeed, the
whole locality, which is one interesting to all con-
cerned in the literary history of Dublin, presents
a sad spectacle of dirt, neglect, and poverty, and
the name of the once popular dean appears quite
unknown or unheard of. A notice of this in your
columns may attract the attention of some of the
Dublin literary societies to the subject, and induce
them to affix some memorial or tablet to the dila-
pidated walls of Hoey's Court before they tumble
into ruin completely.
I perfectly recollect that, on the occasion of Sir
W. Scott's visit to Dublin, Hoey's Court was one
of the first localities he explored, and there was
then a rather handsome carved-stone door-case to
the house supposed to be the one Swift was born
in. H. H.
Lavender Hill.
SHELLEY'S TITLES TO POEMS. — I have often
been asked what are the meanings of Alastor and
Epipsychidion. In a French Encyclopedia the
word Alastor is said to be a Latin substantive
masculine, derived from the Greek a (non) and
Aij&co (oublier), i. e. " qui cause des maux si grands
qu'on ne pent les oublier." Alastor, in the same
work, is explained as " Norn donne a des genies
mal-faisants. Cic^ron avoit concu le projet de so
tuer, aupres du foyer d'Auguste, pour devenir
I' Alastor de cet Empereur." I am not quite cer-
tain about the above derivation. The termination
lastor does not seem to have much, if any, affinity
with A?yS-to. However, I bow to the encyclopaedist.
Shelley's title, Alastor, which many suppose to
be a Greek word, is not found in any of the four
lexicons, that I have consulted ; so it may have
been adopted, either from the Latin or from the
French encyclopaedists. Another origin of the
word is, however, suggested by a friend. It has a
smack of the ludicrous about it, but it may be true,
for all that. Astre is a star or planet, in French,
and where such a star is the sign of an auberge, or
country inn, the common sub-legend is A I' A strc.
Shelley may have been a traveller, or wanderer,,
lodging at such an inn, and so he may have trans-
formed the A V Astre of Gregoire into Alaslor, and
used it as a term for such a traveller, or wanderer,
as the enthusiast of his poem is represented to be !
The meaning of Epipsychidion is clear enough.
We have to translate three Greek words, CTTI, ^vx''h
and t'Setv, verb, " to see," from whence is derived
the substantive ISuov, i.e. a glance, insight, or peep.
Thus, Shelley's title is a sentence, and signifies
" a peep at, upon, or into the soul," a phrase as
mysterious as the poem itself. N.
EPIDEMIC IN ACCIDENTS. — Very recently I read
the following remarks in a local newspaper, and
thought the language somewhat extraordinary to
be made use of now-a-days : —
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15th S. I. JUNE 6, 74.
" CURIOUS COINCIDENCE. — At an inquest held at Whitby
yesterday, Mr. John Buchannan, one of the coroners for
the North Riding of Yorkshire, observed to the jury that
the inquest was the third which he had held within a
very short period. It was, he said, a curious circum-
stance, and he had often noted it, that so sure as he was
called upon to hold an inquest it almost invariably hap-
pened that he would be called upon immediately after-
wards to hold two more. After this there would occur a
lull, which would be followed by three inquests in rapid
succession. He had been a coroner for thirty-four years,
and during the course of that time he had often noted
this curious circumstance, and the same had been expe-
rienced and noted by other coroners in other districts
with whom he had corresponded on the matter. He
could not explain the reason, nor had he heard any one
attempt to explain the reason, of such a strange occur-
rence. As Shakspeare says : ' There are more things in
heaven and earth than are dreamt of in our philosophy.' "
Within a couple of days, however, I came
across a similar statement, made apparently on
good authority, and as the result of experience.
The quotation is from " Inner Life of a Hospital,"
an article published in the Cornhill Magazine some
ten years ago : — " After watching for some years,"
the writer says, " the accidents that enter the wards
of the hospital, three conclusions are arrived at" ;
the second being " that accidents seldom occur
singly"; and the third, "that certain accidents
generally take place about the same time of the
year." " Again," the writer proceeds, —
" There seems to be an epidemic in accidents as in dis-
eases. If one man is brought to the hospital in conse-
quence of falling off a scaffold, four or five more are sure
to enter from the same cause, though the accidents may
have occurred in different parts of London. And if an
accident of some peculiar nature happens, a second is
nearly sure to follow before long There seem to
be some laws which govern accidental injuries as well as
diseases ; for at one time people get blown up by ex-
ploding boilers ; at another time they get run over ; at
another they get crushed in machinery ; at another they
break their knee-caps ; and at another they fall down
stairs."
ELSWICK.
MOTTOES OF CITIES, TOWNS, AND ROYAL
BURGHS. —
Aberdeen — " Bon Accord." •
Anstruther — " Virtute res parvae crescunt."
Berwick (North) — " Victorias gloria merces."
Bristol—" Virtute et industrial"
Chippenham — " Unity and Loyalty."
Dumbarton—1' Fortitude et fidelitas."
Dumfries — " Aloreburn."
Dundee — "Dei donum."
Edinburgh, C. — "Nisi Dominus frustra."
Do. R. B.— "Pro rege, lege, et grege."
Exeter—" Semper fidelis."
Glasgow — " Lord, let Glasgow flourish " (" by the preach-
ing of the \Vord ").
Gloucester—" Fides invicta triumphat."
Hereford — " Invictae fidelitatis praemium."
Jedburgh— " Strenue et prospere."
Kirkcaldy — " Vigilando munio."
Linlithgow — " Collocet in coelis nos omnes vis Michaelis."
Liverpool — " Deus nobis hrec otia fecit.'"
London — " Domine dirige nos."
Middlesborough — " Erimus.1'
Montrose — " Mare ditat, rosa decorat."
Newcastle-upon-Tyne — " Fortiter defendit triumphans."
Oxford — " Fortis est veritas."
Peebles — " Contra nando incrementum."
Perth — " Pro rege, lege, et grege."
Pittenweem — " Deo duce."
Plymouth — " Turris fortissima est nomen Jehovah."
Renfrew — "Deus gubernat navem."
Shields (South) — "Courage, Humanity, Commerce."
Stranraer — " Tutissima statio."
Taunton — " Defendamus."
J. MANUEL.
THE USE or " IT." — My friend Dr. Abbott has
just sent me this sentence to analyse and parse:
" It was from you that I received that insult."
The assertion is the emphatic form of the statement
" The person from whom I received that insult was
you." But the process by which the latter was
transposed into the former, except so far as the
predicate-advancing use of it is concerned, is not
clear to me, though it will be found in Dr. Abbott's
forthcoming little book, How to Parse.
F. J. F.
FINE ARTS CATALOGUES. — I have just seen the
first part of a work entitled Bibliographic Me-
Ihodique et Raisonnde des Beaux-Arts, par Ernest
Vinet, Paris, 1874. That such a work might be a de-
sirable addition to what is already published, there
can be no question. What I fear is, that the
author is not humble enough to carry out his plan
properly. That he has no reason to speak in the
positive tone that he does in his " Avant-propos "
is seen at once ; for he makes the mistake of
imagining that the Universal Catalogue of Books
on Art, published by the authorities at South
Kensington, is simply a catalogue of art books,
whereas it is well known that it comprises also
the books in the South Kensington Museum Li-
brary. This is, however, a minor error, and would
not be worth noticing, only M. Vinet ventures to
ridicule that Catalogue. M. Vinet's faults as a
bibliographer are radical and irremediable, so far
as the part already published is concerned. Fancy
anybody talking about bibliography in the nine-
teenth century, and publishing a pretentious cata
logue, with made-up title-pages, interpolations in
the titles, translations, &c.; in fact, all the faults
that are usually made by persons who make no
pretentious at all.
M. Vinet writes as if he had discovered " classi-
fication," boasts that his catalogue is classified, and
says that the alphabetical system is an excuse for
the laziness of authors, and ought to be abandoned
by all bibliographers ! Fortunately, M. Vinet is
in a considerable minority in his opinion on this
point; and he has yet much to learn from English
bibliographers (Sir Antonio Panizzi, J. Winter
Jones, and Thomas Watts), whose opinions he
does not appear even to have read, to say nothing
of M. J. C. Brunet (who M. Vinet pretends he is
following) and Que"rard. OLPHAR HAMST.
S. I. JUNE 6, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
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tttutfat
[We must request correspondents desiring information
on family matters of only private interest, to affix their
names and addresses to their queries, in order that the
answers may be addressed to them direct.]
PRISON MEMOIRS. — In the second volume of
Les Prisons, forming part of the valuable series,
entitled " Memoires sur la Revolution Franchise,"
1823, I find, at page 266, the following horrible
circumstance related as occurring at the prison of
Le Plessis : —
" Ce cruel Haly ne savait qu'imaginer pour tourmenter
et nuire. Son cousin, grand sommelier de la maison,
insolent et fripon, faisait transferor a Bicetre ceux qui
trouvaierit son vin mauvais ou trop faible. Le cuisinier
avait le meme pouvoir, employait la memo ressource,
quand on lui representait que ses viandes etaient gatees,
couvertes de vermine ; que le sale qu'iL donnait n'etait
que de la chair des guillotines."
It is then added, in a note —
" Haly appelait cela un plat de ci-devants, et riait aux
eclats. It est certain que la police d'alors ordonna cette
horrible ressource."
Does the last-mentioned circumstance rest on
good authority? I do not think Mr. Carlyle
alludes to it, although he mentions the tannery of
human skins at Meudon, and speaks of it as a
detestable trait of cannibalism. If, however, the
other be really true, it far surpasses in horror the
Meudon tannery. If any are aware of official or
otherwise authentic documents proving the truth of
this story, I should be much obliged if they would
kindly let me know where I could see them, or
copies of them. I believe these Prison Memoirs
are very authentic and trustworthy ; still I should
not like to believe such a dreadful story without
incontrovertible testimony.
JONATHAN BOUCHIER.
THE REV. JOHN WHEELWRIGHT'S "VINDICA-
TION."— The Rev. John Wheelwright distinguished
himself in the Antinomian controversies in Boston,
in Massachusett's Bay, in 1637, and was banished
by order of the General Court. Cotton Mather,
in his Magnolia Christi Americana, published in
folio, 1702, says Wheelwright —
"Published a Vindication of himselfe against the
Wrongs that by Mr. Weld, and by Mr. Rutherford, had
been done unto him. In this Vindication, he not only
produces a Speech of Mr. Cotton, I do conceive and
profess, that our brother Wheelwright's Doctrine is ac-
cording to God in the Points controverted; but also a
Declaration from the whole General Court of the
Colony, signed by the Secretary, Aug. 24, 1654, upon the
Petition of Mr. Wheelwright's Church at Hampton : In
which Declaration they profess, That hearing that Mr.
Wheelwright is by Mr. Rutherford and Mr. Weld,
rendered in. some Looks Printed by them as Heretical and
Criminous, they now signifie, that Mr. Wheelwright hath
for these many Years approved himselfe a Sound Orthodox,
and Profitable Minister of the Gospel among these
Churches of Christ." — Book vir. chap. iii. sect. 3.
As Cotton Mather quotes from the " Vindica-
tion," we may infer that such a document was at
that time before him. But I find no other writer
referring to it in such a manner as to imply that
he had seen it. I do not know under what title,
or in what year it was published. If, however, it
was printed, it must have been subsequent to, and
probably soon after, 1654, and undoubtedly in
England. Can any one inform me whether there
is a copy of the "Vindication" extant, and if so,
where? This "Vindication" must not be con-
founded with Wheelwright's Mercurius Ameri-
canus, which was published in 1645.
EDMUND F. SLAFTER.
11, Beacon Street, Boston, U.S.A.
THOMAS FULLER'S " LIBRARY OF BRITISH HIS-
TORIANS."— Is anything known of the MS. of this
work, or was it ever published ? It does not
appear in the lists of Fuller's works ; but he him-
self, writing about 1648, thus mentions it : — " As
for Gildas, surnamed the Wise, we reserve his
character for our Library of British Historians *;
and he adds in the margin, " Vide our Librar. of
British Histor., num. 1." — Church History, bk. i.
p. 42, IT 13.
Light might be thrown upon this unknown but
wished-for " Library " by the fly-leaves in the
books issued by Fuller's stationers, John Williams
and others. I shall be glad to hear of any con-
temporary advertisements of Fuller's works upon
such fly-leafs. Clavell's useful lists fall a little too
late for the purpose.
The idea of this " Library " was, it will be
remembered, actually carried out by Archbp.
Nicolson, the first part of whose English, Scotch,
and Irish Historical Libraries, giving an account
of the character of the chief historians, was pub-
lished about fifty years after Fuller mentioned the
project. It is perhaps vain, however, to inquire in
that quarter after Fuller's missing work, the
bishop's angry and unjust criticisms of our worthy
forming a curious instance of a warped judgment,
which, at a later period, roused the indignant pro-
test of Coleridge : — " And Bishop Nicholson, too !
— a painstaking old charwoman of the Antiquarian
and Rubbish Concern! The venerable rust and
dust of the whole firm are not worth an ounce of
Fuller's earth ! " JOHN EGLINGTON BAILEY.
Stretford, Manchester.
GRANTS OF NOBILITY TO FOREIGNERS. — The
Syllabus of Rymer's " Fcedera " contains notices of
numerous " grants of nobility " made to foreigners
by James I. For example, " Grant of nobility and
coat of arms to John Van Hess, lord of Piershall
and Wena," 4th May, 1622 ; " Grant of nobility
;o Regner Pau, of Holland, dated Newmarket:
Feb. 12, and to William Vander Graeff, of Hol-
land, dated Greenwich, May 28" (1623), &c.
What degree of nobility is here 'intended ? Is it
that of the then new order of baronet ? There is
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one instance recorded in Broun's 'Baronetage
(1843) of this dignity having been conferred on a
Dutchman, a General of the States of Holland, in
1686, which was remarkable for the circumstance
that, by a special clause in the patent, the recipient's
mother was given " the rank and title of a Baron-
etess of England." It is scarcely probable that
peerages would have been so liberally scattered
abroad, and it was not the honour of knighthood,
as " Grants of Knighthood " are noted, as in Feb.,
1623, "to Vere a Gate, lord of Maelsted," and
others. None of the " Peerages " and " Baronet-
ages " notice these creations. C. S. K.
" YALE COLLEGE MAGAZINE." — Can any Ameri-
can reader of "N. & Q." inform me as to the
authorship of the following dramatic sketches in
the Yale Colkge Magazine ? 1. Vol. i. pp. 86-88,
April, 1836, fragment of an unfinished tragedy.
I. Vol. ii. Nov., 1836, scene from an unpublished
iragedy (scene Rhodes). 3. Vol. ii. April, 1837,
"The Fatal Curse," an unfinished tragedy. 4.
Vol. iii. April, 1838, " The Trial of Love," a frag-
ment from an unfinished tragedy (scene France).
5. Vol. iii. May, 1838, "Love's Difficulty," a
dramatic sketch (scene Italy) by Z.
The editors of the magazine in 1836 were E. 0.
Carter, of Worcester, Mass. ; F. A. Coe, of New-
haven ; W. M. Evarts, of Boston ; C. S. Lyman, of
Manchester ; and W. S. Scarborough, of Brooklyn.
In vol. iii. June, 1838, there is a dramatic frag-
ment, which is anonymous. In the British Museum
copy the name of the author is inserted in pencil,
viz., Charles Rich. Mr. C. Rich, of Boston, was
one of the editors of 1838, and was a student of
theology at Yale in 1839-40. I should be obliged
by receiving further information regarding him,
and also regarding Mr. R. Aikman, of New York,
one of the editors of the magazine in 1843, author
(I believe) of " Cain's Soliloquy," in vol. ix. June,
1844, and in vol. x. Dec., 1844, of "The Fall of
Babylon," a poem. These last-named poems have
only the initials R. A., but I conjecture that Mr.
R. Aikman is the author.
" THE PAULINE MAGAZINE." — Who edited this
miscellany for 1831 and 1836 1 The papers were, I
think, chiefly written by the scholars of St. Paul's
School. R. INGLIS.
WILLIAM AND MART. —
" Whereas Coll Jacob Richards now att Venice hath
undertaken to procure the Sculptures of his Mat!e and of
his Late Royall Consort Queen Mary dec'1 to be done
(for ye adorning the New Storehouse in ye Tower) by
one of the most eminent Sculptors there And hath de-
sired an advance of moneys may be returned him thither
towarde doing the same Wee have therefore in pur-
suance of an Order of the R' HonWe Henry Earl of
Romney Mar Gen-1 of His Maties Ordinance this day
made imprested unto the said Coll Jacob Richards ye
Summe of One Hundred and Fifty poundes And Wee
Desire the HonUe Coll Henry Mordant Treas. and Pay-
master to the Office of His Matie" Ordinance out of any
moneys in his hande to be repaid out of Land service to
issue and pay the same to Frederick Herne Esqc for ye
said Coll Jacob Richards accordingly Dated att The Office
of The Ordinance — This Five and Twentyth day of June
1700—
C. MUSGRAVE.
" Joh. Charlton. JA. LOWTHER."
The above is an exact copy of an ordinance paper
in my possession. I shall be obliged by any of
your readers being able to tell me if the sculptures
were ever done, and if so, what was the name of
the sculptor ; and, also, do they still adorn the
storehouse in the Tower 1 I should state that the
document is signed on the other side by Frederick
Herne. EMILY COLE.
Teigumouth.
OLD SONG. — Can any one tell me the words of
a song beginning, —
" 'Twas at the Birthnight ball,
God bless our gracious Queen,
Where Folks both great and small
Are on a Footing seen " 1
It goes on to relate the mishap that befell one of
the princesses (daughter of George III.), who in
dancing with her royal brother lost her shoe. The
only other verses I can remember are, —
" Her Highness hopped,
The Fiddlers stopped,
Not knowing what to do.
* * * *
Lord Hertford too
Like lightning flew,
And tho' unused to truckle !
Lay down his wand
And lent a hand
Her Royal shoe to buckle."
J. C. C.
LORD CHATHAM AND BAILEY'S " DICTIONARY":
"Talked with Lord H." (Holland) "of Barrow and
Taylor. I mentioned I had heard that Mr. Fox was
very fond of Barrow. He said he was not aware of this,
but that Lord Chatham was, and of reading Bailey's
Dictionary." — Moore's Diary, July 25, 1819.
"He" (Lord Chatham) "mentioned to a Friend of
Mr. Butler's that he had twice read, from beginning to
end, Bailey's Dictionary." — From Charles Butler's hjt-
miniscences, quoted in Timbs's Anecdote Biography.
Lord Holland, perhaps, quoted from the same
source as Phillips, if not from Phillips himself.
Can " N. & Q." tell me further 1 I lately bought
a copy of Bailey's Folio, 1730, the first edition, I
believe ; and on the title-page is written " W. Pitt,"
in the fine large hand and the faded ink of the
time. QUIVIS.
COLUMBUS. — His epitaph at Seville* is well
known, but I am under the impression that he had
a tomb, or cenotaph, in St. Domingo, which was
removed to Cuba ; but, having lost my note on the
* In an old Biographical Dictionary the following
arms are assigned to him — " A sea, argent and azure, 6
islands or, under the Cope (?) of Castile and Leon."
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subject, I should be glad if any correspondent
would set me right. Is there not a tradition that
the great discoverer's bones were removed from
Spain to the West Indies ? If any monumental
inscription to his memory exists in Cuba, where
can a copy be seen ? Q.
" OUT OF THE FRYING-PAN INTO THE FIRE." —
Tertullian quotes a proverb very much like this,
and from which, it is not improbable, our English
version comes, " Pervenimus igitur de calcaria
(quod dici solet) in carbonariam," De Came
Christi, vi. Where he got it from, I cannot tell,
but it was evidently a well-known one even in his
time. He was very fond of proverbs, and must
have had a plentiful stock of them. There is no
wonder in this, for he seems to have read every-
thing. EDMUND TEW, M.A.
PORTRAIT. — I have a portrait of a lady, half-
length, life-size, with "Jo. Verelst, P. 1700,"
painted on the left-hand side. I am told that the
maiden name of the lady was Patten, and that she
was the daughter of a physician in Oxford. There
is a tradition that she was a Greville, and this is
supported by the fact that one of her daughters
was christened Anna Greville. Was the artist of
any celebrity 1 I should be glad of any informa-
tion that may lead to the discovery of her parentage.
HARDRIC MORPHYN.
SIR WILLIAM (ADMIRAL) PENN. — Had he (the
father of William Penn, the proprietor of Penn-
sylvania) a sister Elizabeth, and whom did she
marry ?
JOHN LUSON. — He emigrated to Massachusetts
in 1636. In 1660 he left a legacy to Thomas,
Eobert, and Susan, children of Eobert Luson, in
old England. Of what county and parish were
these Lusons ? P. B.
THE GOLDEN EOSE. — Did the Pope, on last
Midlent Sunday, perform the usual ceremony of
blessing the Golden Eose 1 If so, to whom did
His Holiness present it ; and where can I find or
obtain a list of those upon whom the Sovereign
Pontiff has conferred this mark of his favour since
his accession to the Papal throne 1 T. G. E.
SHERIDAN.— 1. What has become of the Sheri-
dan MSS. which were in the possession of Moore
when he wrote the Memoirs ?
2. Who first said that Sheridan was afraid of
the author of the School for Scandal ?
J. BRANDER MATTHEWS.
HERALDIC.— What family bears the following
arms : — Gules, a chevron battled-counter-em battled
between 3 mullets, 2 and 1 argent ; crest, a talbot's
head erased argent, langued gules ; motto, semper
vigilans. D. C. E.
5, The Crescent, Bedford.
A JEW'S WILL. — In the will of a wealthy
London Jew, dated 1750, is the following bequest
inter alia " to my son" : — " My fine cloak, and fine
bells, and the best laws in my Synagogue." Will
some one kindly explain the meaning of the last
article, " the best laws," and for what purpose
bells are used in the Jewish service 1 H. T. E.
" BEGGAR'S BARM." — What is the origin of this
term 1 It is applied by Warwickshire children to
the froth and brown scum seen in the retired parts
of running brooks and streams, and- resembles
yeast. ELLIS EIGHT.
WEST FELTON, SHROPSHIRE. — I am very desirous
to obtain some information regarding the history of
the Holy Well in this parish through the medium
of " N. & Q." A. E. K.
AUTHOR WANTED. —
" Junxit amor vivos ; nunc jungit terra sepultos."
H. N. C.
SHOTTEN HERRING.
(5* S. i. 146, 194, 276.)
I think MR. EDWARD PEACOCK is wrong in his
definition of "shot ten herring," as meaning "a
gutted herring dried for keeping." A shotten
herring is a herring that has shot its spawn. Schotte,
shotte, sceate, and scot, meaning tribute or contribu-
tion ; pay your shot, scot and lot, watch and
ward contribution and burden ; a man who being
a free man pays his taxes and takes upon himself
some municipal office or burden is said to have
paid his scot or shot, and borne his lot. The term
is Saxon or Teutonic, and is found in Eomescot or
Eomeshot, the ancient term for Peter's Pence. In
acreshot or acrescot (from Latin ager, a field), the
Saxon term for our modern land tax. Wherever
locally throughout Saxon England the term scot,
or shott, or shot, occurs as an affix to one or more
syllables, for instance, Shotton or Shottaton, Scot-
ney, Scottow, Scotby, Scothouse, and last Scotland,
&c., we may consider that a contribution or tax
suggests the origin of the name of the place ; thus,
Shotton in Durham means the township reclaimed
from marshy lands, by means of a scot or tax, paid
by neighbouring proprietors. Scotney, in Kent
(ea, an island), reclaimed by a scot or tax, whence
Scotney, Scotto or Scottow, the house built on re-
claimed land, and termed thus, in some places
Scotshouse, occurs in lieu of Scottow. Scotland,
in the south-east of England, always means land
that has been reclaimed from an estuary or subject
to floods, and the rent (or scot) of which has been,
from time immemorial, set apart for the main-
tenance of embankments and sluices. The writer
is acquainted with two farms in Kent and Sussex,
respectively so named, so situated, and for such a
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purpose applied. The Saxon term scot or shotte,
sceatte, &c., is almost invariably found in connexion
with low marshy ground, afterwards embanked, and
drained at a common expense, and literally means
a guarding, from the British word ysgod, or ysgawd,
modernized scot, whence we obtain our municipal
terms, warden, guardian, watch and ward, and as
above stated, scot and lot, as a means to an end.
In ancient times it was considered as much an
imperial duty for the monarch to defend and guard
his estuaries and lands from encroachment by the
sea, as to defend his kingdom from attack of his
enemies. Depend upon it the sceatta was the
Saxon coin of tribute, paid by every household to
protect the southern portion of the island from the
incursions of the Picts and Scots, and to raise an
embankment, as in the Pictish and Northumbrian
walls, just as Danegeld was a tax similarly imposed
as a bribe to buy off the Danes.
The term scot is invariably now used in Roinney
Marsh (Romen Ea, or Koman Island) in lieu of
the term tax, for all purposes connected with the
embanking, drainage, and protection (guarding)
of the marsh lands from encroachments by sea or
flood. By whom Romney Marsh was reclaimed
from a swamp must always remain matter of doubt,
but its term Eomen Ea would suggest that this
was effected by the Romans, or else by the Anglo-
Saxons, shortly after their departure in the fifth
century, and thus the sceatte or scotatio became a
fixed term for a common contribution or tax in
any matter connected with embankment, walling,
or reclamation, in respect of which a constant
watch and ward was necessary, as in the walls of a
castle, or the guarding of an earthern embankment
or camp to resist an enemy, or to keep out the
encroachments of flood or tide. A shotten herring,
therefore, means a herring that has shot its spawn,
or paid the contribution of its species, and is men-
tioned (as MR. PEACOCK observes in Gardner's
History of Dunwich) in contradistinction to full
herrings, " 2,500 full heryns, 200 schotyn."
J. R. SCOTT.
MR. PATTERSON having shown, by a quotation,
that Mr. Halliwell was mistaken in his explanation,
and N — N having followed with a quotation from
Bailey arid the present usage in the herring county
of Norfolk, it is asserted, p. 276, that shotten
certainly means, as Halliwell says, "a gutted
herring dried for keeping. No proof, however, is
given, and if the quotation given go to prove any-
thing, it goes to prove that the term is opposed to
" full," and, therefore, means a thin lean herring
that has spawned. Dyche gives the same as
Bailey. Cotgrave, in one passage, seemingly
supports the dried-herring supposition, but in
reality agrees with the other authorities. Under
" Harenc," &c., is " Essim4 comme vne harenc soret
As lean as a rake ; as lanke as a shotten herring.'
5ut as elsewhere, and as in the " As lean as a
rake," he is not translating literally, but giving the
English proverbial equivalent for the French pro-
erbial saying. " Harenc soret," and its variations,
ic gives as red herring only, and not as "red,
dried, or shotten.". Moreover, in Sherwood's
French- English red herring is harenc sauret, &c.,
and " A great, fat, full-row'd herring harenc de.
mar," " A shotten herring harenc guest " ; and if
one turn to "Guest" in Cotgrave, there is "hareng
guest. A shotten or leane herring." The word
also proves its meaning, a herring which is in the
state of having, to use another technical, " cast its-
spawn." Shotten, as applied to fish, is as unlikely
;o mean gutted and dried as it is in the phrase
' nook-shotten isle of Albion," which, of course,,
means shot out in a corner like rubbish or refuse.
B. NICHOLSON.
It is curious that MR. PEACOCK should think
ihat this means a "gutted herring dried for
keeping," when his quotation shows the distinction
full and schotyn. Yarrell (on Leach's herring)
says:—
" The common herring, when it visits our coasts ire
autumn, is taken heavy with roe, which it deposits to-
wards the end of October. It is certain that the fishing
for them is abandoned about that time, as no purchaser*
could be found for the ' shotten herring,' and it is also
well known that the herrings having cast their roe, retire
from the shore to deep water."
Leach's herring does not spawn till February.
The term is always applied in metaphor to some-
thing worn out and depreciated. W. G.
MR. PEACOCK is wrong in his answer (p. 276) con-
cerning "shotten herring." This does not mean
" gutted herring," but herring that have spawned
or " shot" their roe. Thomas Comber's " 2,500 full
heryns, and 200 schotyn heryns," mean 2,500 with
the roe (hard), or milt (soft), as the case may be,
and 200 spawned ones. The latter would be much
cheaper, as the fish in that state are out of con-
dition. NUMMUS.
A shotten herring, in the north of England,
does not mean a gutted herring, but a fish out of
condition, having just shot forth its spawn ; hence
the term, a peculiarly low-lived one, is proverbially
applied to a person looking miserably thin and ill.
Spoken of a fish, one might hear " Oh, it is a nasty
shotten herring," or applied ironically or com-
passionately to an individual, "Why, whatever
is the matter with you 1 You look like a shotten
herring." P. P.
" PRESTER JOHN " AND THE ARMS OF THE SEE
or CHICHESTER (4th S. xii. passim ; 5th S. i. 15,
177, 217, 359.)— The jesting observations on cathe-
dral armories in general are a diversion from the
original subject. In the cases cited, it is sufficient
to say that the arms of Christchurch, Canterbury,
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and St. Peter's, York, are not " palls " ; that
St. Andrew's, Rochester, has his cross-saltire,
Hereford shows the shield of St. Thomas Cantelupe,
and so on. Of whom could a Prester John be the
arms 1 How is Prester John delineated, and where
can I see his image ?
A church is the Lord's house, KvpiaKrj (Euseb.,
De Laud. Const., xvii.), dominica (St. Hieron.,
Olymp., cclxxvi., an. 3); therefore, the canon law
(Frances, c. xxxiv.) allowed consecration to be
made only in memory of a recognized saint ; and in
cathedrals, of St. Mary or an apostle, or some local
" patron " : in England, Canterbury, Chichester,
and Norwich were dedicated solely in the name of
the Holy Trinity. In early days, a church some-
times bore the name of its founder, as at Rome,
Carthage, and Antioch ; or a title indicative of
place or circumstance, as the Holy Cross and
Anastasis of Jerusalem ; or of some incident con-
nected with it, like the Eestituta of Carthage, or
the Chapel of the Peace, built by Richard II. and
Charles of France. In 1064, protection was granted
to all going to Church to keep the dedication day
in parishes, or "the day of their proper saint"
(Edwards's Laws Eccles., § 3). In 816, every
bishop was required to have written on the walls
of the oratory, or in a table, as also on the altars,
to what saint both of them were dedicated (Council
Cealc., § 2). Lyndwood explains the statute con-
cerning " imago principalis," sc. " illius Sancti ad
cujus honorem ecclesia consecrata est" (Prov.,
lib. iii., tit. 27). This is quite in accordance with
St. Augustine's record of churches bearing the
names of those " whose souls were yet alive with
God"(De Civ. Dei, lib. viii. c. 27, xxii. c. 10).
The wake day, or local fair day, is often,
in lack of other evidence, a guide to the saint
after whom a church was named. I am happy
to find, in Daily's Chichester Guide (1831), that
mention is made of the " Salvator Mundi " in the
east wall of the presbytery. My real object is to
rebut the impeachment of a " sneer," — a by-play in
which I never indulge, as it damages the writer,
misleads nobody, and spoils an argument. As to
Prester John, I hope we have heard the end of
such fictions. MACKENZIE E. C. WALCOTT.
MORTIMER'S " HISTORY OF ENGLAND " (5th S. i.
268, 315.)— It is remarkable that there are so few
notices of Thomas Mortimer to be met with, con-
sidering the number of books he wrote or edited.
In his little Student's Pocket Dictionary he
mentions John Mortimer, F.R.S., the well-known
writer on husbandry, who died in 1736, and his
son, Thomas Mortimer, secretary to Sir Joseph
Jekyll, Master of the Rolls, and to his successor,
John Verney, Esq., an able lawyer and good man ;
died 1741, aged thirty-five. This Thomas Mor-
timer, he adds, was his father.
In early life he was a tutor, for he states in his
Elements of Commerce, &c., 1772, that he had at-
tended several of the young nobility and gentry in
the capacity of a private tutor. It was probably
through the influence of one of these that he ob-
tained the appointment of Consul for the Austrian
Netherlands. About the year 1769 he was dis-
missed from this office, and it was then said
because he had been too civil to Mr. Wilkes. In-
reference to this, see —
" The remarkable case or Thomas Mortimer, Escj:
late his Majesty's Vice Consul for the Austrian Nether-
lands, addressed without permission to Lord Wey-
mouth and his under secretaries Robert Wood and
William Frazer, Esq", 1769, and again in 1770."
Mr. Mortimer had taken an active part against
the Jesuits, was a warm supporter of the Pro-
testant interests, and opposed to the House of
Stuart. It is possible that he is the person
referred to in the Whisperer, No. 57, March 16th,
1771, as the Consul at Ostend, who, because he
did his duty as an Englishman, was dismissed and
replaced by a Scotchman.
As regards his History of England, it is a
laborious and careful compilation ; it is not a book
of "authority," but it is useful, and contains
matter not elsewhere to be found. It is true that
it was brought out in numbers, but it is hardly
just to say that it is, therefore, of little or no
authority ; it is very seldom quoted, but it may
often be consulted with advantage.
A list of Mortimer's works would be of interest,
though perhaps difficult to obtain. Amongst his
minor tracts may be mentioned The National Debt
no Grievance, &c., by a Financier, 1768. There
are important facts stated in this tract, and it ex-
cited some attention. The Monthly Eeview, 1769,
p. 41, observes that the author introduces rather
too much of his own private affairs. Of his Ele-
ments of Commerce, the same Review, 1773, p. 363,
gives a decidedly favourable account, saying that
the ingenious author has exhibited great knowledge
in his elaborate and meritorious work. There was
a second and modified edition of this book, pub-
lished in 1802 by Longmans, and of this the
Monthly Reviewer says, p. 356, " As a text-book
this work may be extremely useful, and we cannqt
too highly applaud its leading design and general
execution."
Mortimer's Student's Podcet Dictionary is a
useful little handbook. The Monthly Review,
1777, p. 379, praises it as containing many curious
particulars not usually to be met with, but blames
the author for the vain manner in which he vaunts
its accuracy and completeness. Mortimer was a
laborious reader, and selected his authorities well
and carefully. Generally, too, he gives reference,
as, for example, in his British Plutarch, to the
author from which he has compiled.
EDWARD SOLLY.
He was the grandson of John Mortimer, who,
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5th S. I. JUNE 6, 74.
in the early part of the last century, published a
treatise on the art of husbandry " which was much
esteemed." Thomas was born in London in 1730,
and received a liberal education. He became
Vice-Consul of the Austrian Netherlands, but,
having been displaced after a few years, adopted the
profession of an author. A list of his principal
works, about eight in number, is given in Rose's
Biographical Dictionary. See also Watt's Biblio-
theca Britannica and Allibone.
SPARKS HENDERSON WILLIAMS.
GEORGE SUTHERLAND OF FORCE (5th S. i. 329.)
— The proper name of designation is Forss. The
family of the Sutherlands of Forrss are still to be
found at the present time in Thurso, Caithness,
Scotland. T. G. S.
Edinburgh.
" Quiz" (5th S. i. 346.)— The following extract
from Moore's Life (i. 11) throws light on the word:
" The first instance I can recall of any attempt of
mine at regular versicles was on a subject which, oddly
•enough, enables me to give the date with tolerable
accuracy, the theme of my muse on this occasion having
been a certain toy very fashionable about the year 1789
-or 1790, called in French a ' bandalore,' and in English a
'quiz.' To such a ridiculous degree did the fancy for
this toy pervade, at that time, all ranks and ages, that
in the public gardens, and in the streets, numbers of
persons, of both sexes, were playing it up and down as
they walked along; or, as my own very young doggerel
described it, —
' The ladies too, when in the streets, or walking in the
Green,
Went quizzing on to show their shapes and graceful
mien." .
H. A. B.
The same story is in many old jest books, but
the word is Fudge, and the perpetrator of the joke
is Oliver Goldsmith the poet.
JAMES HENRY DIXON.
" WHELE " (5th S. i. 247.)— It is a pity G. S.
does not say from what edition he quotes ; the
S. P. C. K. reprint (Clarendon Press) has " wheal."
But Mr. Scrivener, in his most useful edition of
tjie Bible, reads " whey"; and the Preface, he says,
is " the original text, except where later books
have corrected manifest errors." If, therefore,
" whele " or " wheal " cannot be elsewhere found,
I should say they are old misprints, for the early
form of " whey " was nothing like these, but
" whig," as Richardson's Dictionary will show, who
gives instances from Sir Thomas More and Udall.
C. F. S. WARREN, M.A.
" Whele " seems to be connected with the French
" lait cailU" which comes from the Latin " coa-
gulum." The Spanish " cuajar "=" coagulare," is
another form from the same original. Many Eng-
lish words may be traced, in unexpected ways,
through Spanish and Italian; e. gr., javelin, soar,
arrow, bays, hives[=pustules]. The " Translators'
Preface," from which G. S. quotes, is not printed
with our ordinary Bibles. S. T. P.
PEDRO FERNANDEZ DE QUIROS (5th S. i. 208),
or rather Queiros, was a Portuguese navigator in
the service of Spain. He was born at Evora, in
the province of Alemtejo, about 1560, and died at
Panama (not Lima) in 1614. Little is known of
him prior to 1595 further than that he had made
many voyages to the South Pacific. He published
at Seville, in 1610, his Letters to King Philip III.,
and his Narratio de Terra Australi Incognita at
Amsterdam in 1613. The latter is the work of which
Brunet quotes the English translation published
in 1617. There was also a French translation pub-
lished at Paris the same year. For further par-
ticulars, see De Brosses' Histoire des Navigations
aux Terres Australes, vol. i., book viii., p. 306, &c.,
and the Nouvelle Biographie Generale.
GASTON DE BERNEVAL.
Philadelphia.
"SCAVAGE" (5th S. i. 289.)— Under Scavenger,
Wedgwood writes : — " The scavage, or shewage,
was originally a duty paid on the inspection of
customable goods brought for sale within the city
of London, from A.-S. sceawian, to view, inspect,
look." This was an ancient custom, dating back
to a period anterior to the Tudors ; for, as Cham-
bers tells us (Cyclopcedia), " it is prohibited by
stat. 19 Henry VII., c. 7, though the City of
London still retains the benefit of it." See Wedg-
wood for further information.
EDMUND TEW, M.A.
The officer who made this inspection was called
the scavenger. Our modern use of this term is
owing to the fact that the same official had also
charge of the markets, streets, &c., in which the
selling booths were erected. H. CROMIE.
16, Lansdown Place, Cheltenham.
Bailey gives and derives the word from the
Saxon sceawian, to show. " Scavage," he sayp,
" is a toll or custom exacted by mayors, sheriffs,
&c., of merchant strangers for wares showed, or
offered to sale, within their liberties, by statute
9 Henry VIII. (scavage, scevage, schewage)."
FREDK. RULE.
See Cowell's Law Diet. ; Blount's Law Diet. ;
Jacob's Law Diet., and E. Chambers's Cyclopcedia,
sub voc. Scavage was abolished by statute 19
Henry VII., cap. viii., except for the City of
London. EDWARD PEACOCK.
Bottesford Manor, Brigg.
[In the Glossary of Anglo-Norman and Early Eng-
lish Words, with which that eminent scholar, Mr.
H. T. Riley, has enriched his edition of the Liber
Albus (A.D. 1419), there is the following: — "Scawage,
Scawange, Scawenge ; Engl. Scavage or Shovrage. A
toll or duty paid for the oversight of certain officials
5th S. I. JUNE 6, 74.]
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453
upon the shcnvage or opening out of imported goods."
As to the derivation of our present word " scavenger "
from the " scawegeour," or officer who received the above-
named duty or toll, Mr. Eiley says, under the word
" rakyer " :— " Engl. a raker. The raker of the Middle
Ages performed the same duties as the ' scavenger ' of
the present day, who derives his name from the
' scavager/ or officer who received the duties on the
opening out, or showage, of imported goods, and whose
office it also was to see that the wharfs and streets were
kept free from nuisances."] •• «
" MUMMING " (5th S. i. 383.)— It may interest
many, besides your correspondent MR. ANDREWS,
to hear that in 1869 and 1870, and probably at
the present time, the practice of mumming ob-
tained in Hammersmith and the adjoining parish
of Chiswick. My wife met, in the first-named
year, a party of half-a-dozen men, respectively
clad, and styled Father Christmas, Doctor Bolus,
&c., who performed a rude play, including panto-
mime of fighting, and curing a patient, with ac-
companiments of rhymes, including the use of
swords. The entertainment was wound up by
recitation of the following elegant adjuration : —
" Here comes Old Father Christmas,
Who has but a short time to stay ;
I hope you '11 think of Old Father Christmas
Before he goes away."
And then the party solicited gifts of money.
LEYDEN UNIVERSITY (5th S. i. 368.) — No list of
the students of this University has, I believe, been
published hitherto. I have before me, however, a
prospectus issued a few days ago by M. Martinus
Nijhoff, the well-known publisher of the Hague, of
a work which will furnish the information OTTO
seeks, and much more. The title of the forthcoming
book will be Album Studiosorum Academiae Lug-
duno Batavae, , 1575-1875. Accedunt nomina
Curatorum et Professorum per eadeni secula. The
volume will contain, I understand, upwards of a
thousand pages large quarto, and the price will be
sixteen Dutch florins. I have seen proof-sheets of
some of the early parts of the volume, and it would
be difficult to exaggerate the importance of the
facts they contain for all who are interested in
genealogical inquiries. EDWARD PEACOCK.
Bottesford Manor, Brigg.
THOMAN OR TOMAUN (5th S. i. 368.)— The
Persian coin Tomaun is worth nearly ten shillings ;
it is a gold coin at the present day. Heine, per-
haps, knew nothing about Tomauns. NUMMUS.
I do not think it is really a coin, but a unil
used to count, like the guinea in this country, the
" pistole" in France, &c. It is worth about two
pounds sterling. Marco Polo, the traveller of the
thirteenth century, uses the word, and writes i!
" tomman." According to Littre", it is of " Turk-
Mogol " origin. We read in V. Hugo, Orientales
Chanson de Pirates : —
" Plus belle encor dans sa tristesse,
Ses yeux etaient deux talismans.
Elle valait mille tomans ;
On la vendit & Sa Hautesse.
HENRI GAUSSERON.
Ayr Academy.
This is two-fifths of a pound, or eight shillings.
A crore of thomans is 500,000. See the States-
man's Year-Book, under Persia.
C. F. S. WARREN, M.A.
BACON'S ESSAYS (5th S. i. 409.)— The essay Of
Plantations first appeared in the edition of 1625.
See A Harmony of the Essays of Francis Bacon,
by Edward Arber (English Keprints), 1871.
W. G. STONE.
It is also included in the posthumous Latin
edition, 1638. JOHNSON BAILY.
Pallion Vicarage.
" JE NE SCAIS Quoi" CLUB (5th S. i. 328.)— E.
will doubtless be interested in perusing the fol-
lowing description of a ring, lately in the possession
of a friend of the writer of this note, an inherited
family relic, and which bears evidence of having
been worn in connexion with this club.
An eighteenth century work gold ring ; the
bezel bearing, on dark blue enamel, the three
feathers, badge, and motto " Ich Dien " of the
Prince of Wales ; while round the hoop is en-
graved " Je ne sgais quoi." What would be the
most apt translation of these French words? I
hazard " indescribable." The sentiment appears
embodied in the following verse from the " Beau's
Litany," printed in vol. iv. of revered Sylvanus
Urban, and which runs thus : —
" By the posy displayed on your ring or your garter ;
By your delicate snuff-box enamel'd much smarter ;
By the Je-ne-scay-quoy air when your captives cry
quarter ;
I prithee now hear me, dear Chloe."
CRESCENT.
Wimbledon.
" LEGEM SERVARE," &c. (5th S. i. 408.)— Could
Lord Coleridge have been thinking of the collect
in the Salisbury Use from which the Collect for
Peace in the Morning Service is translated? "Dei
auctor pacis et amator, quern nosse vivere : cui
servire, regnare est, &c. JOHNSON BAILY.
Pallion Vicarage.
PECULIAR SPELLINGS (5th S. i. 405.) — In Byron's
Diary, passim, redde is found for read, past tense.
But I fancy it is a mere archaic whim.
LYTTELTON.
"THE PRIVATE MEMOIRS," &c.(5th S. i. 388.)—
If T. G. S. will turn to the Handbook of Fictitious
Names, he will find the work he refers to is by
James Hogg. OLPHAR HAMST.
454
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5'" S I. JUNE 6, 74.
CHARLES II. (5th S. i. 8.)— Does this refer to the
Bible presented to the King at Dover, 26th May,
1660, by Dr. Eeading ? HARDRIC MORPHYN.
" As CLEAN AS A CLOCK " (5th S. i. 327.)— A
common phrase in Yorkshire, referring to the
shining and clean-looking black-beetles (always
called clocks in the North), which are to be found
under every piece of cow-dung which has been
dropped a few hours. NUMMUS.
COLD HARBOUR (1st S. i., ii., vi., ix., xii. ; 2nd
S. vi., ix., x. ; 3rd S. vii., viii., ix. ; 4th S. i. passim.)
— In reference to several articles which have
appeared in your paper on " Cold Harbour," I beg
to send you the following extract from the new
edition of Thomas Wright's History of English
Culture, p. 88. He is speaking of travelling in
Anglo-Saxon times : —
" It seems not impossible, also, that the ruins of Roman
villas and small stations, which stood by the sides of
roads, were often roughly repaired or modified, so as to
furnish a temporary shelter for travellers who carried
provisions, &c., with them, and could, therefore, lodge
themselves without depending upon the assistance of
others. A shelter of this kind — from its consisting of
bare walls, a mere shelter against the inclemency of the
storm — might be termed a ceald-hereberga (cold harbour) ;
and this would account for the great number of places
in different parts of England which bear this name, and
which are almost always on Roman sites, and near old
roads. The explanation is supported by the circum-
stance that the name is found among the Teutonic
nations on the Continent — the German Kalten-herberg —
as given to some inns of the present day."
J. C. HAHN, Ph.D.
Heidelberg.
WONDERFUL AUTOMATA (5th S. i. 306, 395.)— I
was very well acquainted with Alexandre, the cele-
brated French chess-player, who at one time offi-
ciated as the hidden conductor of Kempelen's chess
automaton (Vide 4th S. v. 563). In a lecture on
the History and Antiquities of Chess, delivered in
the Crystal Palace during a Congress of the British
Chess Association held there in July, 1872, 1 gave
the following explanation of the ingenious method
by which the concealment of the moving spirit of
the Androide was effected : —
" The external appearance of the Automaton was that
of a Turk, the size of life, magnificently attired in the
costume of his country. The front of the chest, behind
which the figure sat, was divided into two compartments
of unequal size : it had also a drawer in its lower part.
At the commencement of the exhibition, the machine
was introduced to the audience, with all its doors, which
were presently to be opened by the exhibitor, closed.
The first door opened was that of the smaller compart-
ment ; and, to make it more certain that no one was con-
cealed in this part, the exhibitor opened a small door at
the back of the chest, and holding a candle to it, allowed
its light to shine through what was apparently a dense
mass of complicated machinery. During this operation, the
concealed director of the Turk's movements was crouch-
ing forward in the still closed larger compartment, the
partition between the compartments being removable at
pleasure. The second operation of the exhibitor was to
close the small door at the back, and open the drawer.
By a skilful piece of mechanism, as the small door closed,
the sham machinery moved forwards, so as to leave a
large open space towards the back of the chest, while a
screen, closing on the machinery, prevented anything
being visible from the outside. As the exhibitor opened
the drawer, the concealed player shifted his position, and
replaced the movable partition between the compart-
ments. His body was now behind the sham machinery
in the smaller compartment, and his legs were behind
the drawer, so that the exhibitor was able, without close-
ing the door formerly opened, to open the large com-
partment both at back and front, and apparently expose
the whole interior of the machine."
H. A. KENNEDY.
Waterloo Lodge, Reading.
EXTRAORDINARY BIRTH OF TRIPLETS (5th S. i.
249, 313.) — It is difficult to imagine how any
entry in any parish register could be accepted as
proof that the miraculous birth of three sons born
on three successive Sundays was "perfectly au-
thentic and no myth." It may, however, save some
trouble to the rector of Angmering to remind the
readers of "N. & Q." that it is absolutely im-
possible that the parish register can contain the
baptism of three knights, " who were knighted for
their bravery by Henry VIII." because the injunc-
tion for keeping parish registers was only issued
in September, 1538, and these brave knights could
not. therefore, have been more than eight years old
when Henry VIII. died. It is, perhaps, too
absurd to apply the rules of ordinary life to such
prodigies, but it appears from the Baronetage that
Sir John Palmer, the eldest of the triplets, was
sheriff in 1533, which must have been at least five
years before he was baptized, if his baptism is re-
corded in Angmering Register. TEWARS.
If Horsefield is right, and these three children
were knighted by Henry VIII., how very old the
church Eegister of Angmering must be ! But I
presume that the entry in the Register Book of
Baptisms was a mere memorandum, taken about
Elizabeth's time from the mouth of tradition, or
some credible witness. I am not objecting in the
least to this, but think it should appear clearly.
T. H.
I am very much obliged to MR. TEW and
M. C. F. for the information regarding this curious
case. I find, however, on reference to the account
given in the European Magazine, that the date
(1666) does not agree with that of the three worthy
knights, according to the History of Siissex, which
states that the trine brothers were knighted by
Henry VIII. ; but as the two accounts tally in the
most important particulars — the names of the
parents and the three births on three successive
Sundays — the date of 1666 must, I conclude, be a
clerical or printer's blunder. W. A. C.
Glasgow.
5th S. I. JUNE 6, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
455
BULL-BAITING (5th S. i. 182, 274, 312.)— In a
particular account of bull-baiting, which will be
found in " A Collection for the Improvement of
Husbandry and Trade, by John Houghton, F.R.S.,"
is the following : —
« Friday, Aug'. 24, 1694.
" A continuation of the history of Bulls and Bull- Baiting.
The Cunning of Bull and Dog.
" When he is at full growth and strong, he is often
baited almost to death; for that great exercise makes
his flesh more tender; and so if eaten in good time
(before putrefaction, which he is more subject to than if
not baited), he is tolerable good meat, although very red.
Some keep him on purpose for the sport of baiting," &c.
There is a graphic description of a cock-fight,
and Staffordshire manners and customs thereat, in
a ballad in my possession, entitled The Wednesbury
Cocking. It is said there is another, called The
Darlaston Bull-Bait. Can any contributor to
"N. & Q." kindly give any information on the
latter ?
Medical men may hardly coincide with Mr.
Grove's idea that bull's flesh was rendered "whole-
some and nutritious " by baiting. It had, perhaps,
an opposite effect. Excitement and ill treatment
made the meat putrefy the sooner, and gave a
tendency to create disease. Over-driven cattle
have their wrongs avenged : —
" But just disease to luxury succeeds,
And every death its own avenger breeds ;
The Fury-passions from that blood began,
And turned on Man a fiercer savage, Man."
GEORGE K. JESSE.
P.S. — There is a statement that at Wokingham,
in Berkshire, a certain George Staverton, in 1661,
because he had once been chased by a bull, for
revenge, left by will property to buy a bull for ever
for the poor of the town to bait and eat, and the offal
and hide to be sold to procure shoes and stockings
for the poor children. A second bull was provided
for baiting by the poor-rates ; and in 1801 the
practice was there unsuccessfully preached against.
Where a bull was kept for baiting (termed " a
Game Bull"), he usually had no more than two
dogs slipped on him at once, and was so wary from
experience that he was difficult to get at. He was
not very much the worse, perhaps, for these en-
counters, conducted on some principles of fair-play.
I have myself seen a bull which was said to have
been baited in six consecutive years. On some
occasions, however, hideous atrocities were per-
petrated by the rabble— the "Militia of Hell,"
as Lawrence called them. At Bury St. Ed-
munds, in 1801, a bull's hoofs were cut off, and
the wretched creature forced to defend himself
against the dogs as best he could on his mangled
stumps. Fires were lighted under bulls to prevent
their lying down from exhaustion; spikes thrust
into their most tender parts ; and their tails
twisted to dislocation. A deceased relative of
mine knew an instance where, there being only
money enough to buy a young creature not much
bigger than a full-grown calf, he was soon worn
out, and ceasing to defend himself against the
bull-dogs, lay like a log on the ground. A fire
was then lighted against him, but in vain, as he
was utterly exhausted ; thereupon the miscreants
got a can of boiling water, and poured it into
his ears. Sheridan, in his speech in the House
of Commons in 1802, in favour of the bill
against bull-baiting and bull-running, which was
thrown out on the second reading, gave some
details of these cruelties. Yet many people con-
sidered such sports " manly," and conducing to the
courage of the nation, just as now persons cut up
alive helpless, unoffending, and affectionate crea-
tures in the name of — Science !
"S" VERSUS "Z" (5th S. i. 89, 135, 155.)— If
HERMENTRUDE should live much longer, I believe
that she will witness many greater changes in Eng-
lish orthography than those which she mentions.
I believe that, in the words which she mentions,
the z is always used instead of the s on this
side of the Atlantic, and has been as far back as
my recollection extends, for the good and sufficient
reason that the z is sounded in these words and
the s is not.
The plurals of all nouns regularly formed ought
to end in z, instead of s. Boys is not pronounced
boyce, but boyz, and should be spelt accordingly.
I have seen the objection urged against correct-
ing the existing defects of English orthography,
that the derivations of our words would be pro-
bably more forgotten than they are at present. I
do not believe that more than one person in ten
thousand cares a straw as to the derivation of the
words which he uses. To accommodate this solitary
individual, the word doubt must have a b in it,
because the Latin dubito has a 6 in it. How
absurd ! How unreasonable that the difficulties
of foreigners and children should be increased to
secure so insignificant an end !
I believe that the words friend, friendship, &c.,
originally had no i in them. The sooner that i is
knocked out the better. The original spelling of
plough, namely, plow, is rapidly coming into use
with us. Theatre is now theater, as it should be,
and centre is center, by analogy to enter, which we
never spell entre. UNEDA.
Philadelphia.
USE OF INVERTED COMMAS, &c. (5th S. i. 9, 75,
154, 217, 336.) — Is MEDWEIG then really unaware
that in English and other modern languages the
same sign (!) serves both as a " note of admiration
(or surprise)" and as a "note of exclamation"?
In the " Dear Sir !" and the " Gentlemen !" which
he quotes from Lawrence's Physiology, the ! is, of
course, used merely as a " note of exclamation."
It may not have been in common use at that time
456
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5th S. I. JUNE 6, 74.
(1819) in such cases, and Lawrence* may have
been pedantic in his use of it, but wrong he most
certainly was not ; indeed, strictly speaking, it is
more correct to use a ! in such cases than a comma.
"Dear Sir!" and "Gentlemen!" are as much
vocatives as if they had an "O " before them ; and
even at the present day, when we use a vocative
with " 0," we put a ! at the end of the words
following the " 0." It would be interesting to in-
vestigate when the comma came in and the ! went
out in such cases as " Dear Sir " and " Gentlemen,"
for I have no doubt that, in former times, the !
was, at least, occasionally used.
Even noiv, in Germany, it is very common to
put a ! after the words with which (as "Dear
Sir," &c.) one opens a letter, and I have, at the
present moment, a letter before me, from a very
eminent German physiologist and pathologist
(Prof. Virchow, of Berlin), which concludes with
" Herzlichen Gruss ! " This is, indeed, no vocative,
but, like a vocative, it is an exclamation t (a
Zuruf, as the Germans would say), and, as such,
it correctly receives a !. And, in their books also,
the Germans seem much fonder of this sign than
we are. Thus, in the New Testament, when in the
Epistles the words, " The grace of our Lord Jesus
Christ," &c., are used, we put no ! at the end in
English (nor do they seem to do it in French
either); but in my German Bible I find the ! put
in this and all similar cases. There is no doubt, I
think, that the right of the matter is with the Ger-
mans, though, at the same time, the question is one
of but little practical importance. F. CHANCE.
Sydenham Hill.
Inverted commas to mark a quotation, and also
to emphasize, were in use in France as early as
1578. In the beautiful small 8vo edition of the
Odes by Eonsard, printed by Gabriel Buon, Paris,
1578, are several examples of both. The 27th
ode, book v., begins —
" Certes par effet ie scay
Ce vi&d prouerle estre may,
Qu'entre la louche & le verre
Le vin souvent tombe a terre,
, Et ne faut que Vhomme hit/main
S'asscure de nulle chose,
Si ia ne la tient enclose
Bien estroit dedans la main."
RALPH N. JAMES.
Ashford, Kent.
* I say " Lawrence," because, in spite of MEDWEIG'S
rather positive assurance that these !'s cannot have
existed in the original manuscript, " but that they were
added as embellishments by the 'half-educated' eom-
positor" (has MEDWEIG forgotten that there is such a
person as a reader, and that Lawrence himself no doubt
revised the proofs ?), and in spite of MEDWEIG'S specu-
lations a^to what passed in the mind of this "half-
educated" compositor, I feel thoroughly convinced
that it was Lawrence himself who put in the !'s.
t For a similar reason, interjections and interjectional
phrases (such as Oh! ah I alas I 0 dear! the dickens.'
&c.) still receive a ! after them.
DE DEFECTIBUS MISSJE (5th S. i. 286, 372.) —
In the Augsburg Missal, referred to on p. 286, is
a large full-page representation of St. Conrad, the
B. Virgin, and St. Pelagius. St. Conrad is in-
bently gazing into a chalice he holds in his hands,
in which is a large black " Attercoppe." In the
sequence of St. Conrad, in the same Missal, is this
passage : —
"Ad instar evangelistse, Haurit virus Justus iste
Illapsum (in) te fixus, Christe, Sacramento cum portento
Mortis in aranea.
Quae ad rnensam dum consedit, Ejus ore viva redit,
Nee gustum nee vitam laedit, Sed testatur quod frustratur.
Fide vis venenea."
J. T. F.
Hatfield Hall, Durham.
"JURE HEREDITARIO" (5th S. i. 109, 272.)— In
Scottish land-rights, charters, &c., flowing from
superiors, in that clause thereof called the
" Tenendum" or that which expresses the feudal
tenure, the terms " in feu-farm, fee, and heritage"
are common, indeed general, and are often
Latinized thus, " in feodo-firma, feodo, et here-
ditate " (vel "jure hereditario "). The meaning of
the clause is, that the lands, &c., granted, or given
out, are to be held by the recipient, called the
vassal, and his heirs or successors for payment of a
feu-farm (= feu-rent = feu-duty) — held in fee, or in
feu, or as a feu is held ; and likewise in heritage, or,
in other words, by the law of, or that applicable to,
heritage ; are to be held, forsooth, by a hereditary
right or law — by that law (called jus hereditar.)
which regulates the descent of lands and other
heritage — by him, who is called the "heir in heri-
tage." Therefore, the quotation of MR. TEW, from
Spelman, is an apt interpretation of "jure here-
ditario," and does not conflict, in my view, with
any of those clauses given from Glanville, &c., by
H. M. E. P. L.
CHARLES I.: ACCOUNT FOR INTERMENT (5th S.
i. 145, 219.) — In vol. vii. of the Interregnum
Petitions is the original petition from Herbert,
which is mentioned in the Order of Council
(" N. & Q.," 5th S. i. 145). The following is an
exact copy : —
" To his Highnes the Lord Protector, &c.
"The humble Petition of Thomas Herbert, Esq. ;
Sheweth
"That yor Petitioner, and Capt. Anthony Mildmay
received for the Interment of y° late King the Summe of
229£. 5s. 2d., which Summe was by them disbursed
accordingly ; As by their Accompt allowed of by Major-
Gen" Harrison may appeare.
"Your Petitioner therefore most humbly prayeth,
That yor Highnes wilbe pleased to grant an Order of yor
Highnes and yor Council ; That yor Petitioner may not
be further troubled to Accompt for the same.
"And yor Petr shall pray, &c."
I may observe that this petition is very
elaborately written, apparently by a clerk, not by
Herbert himself. Annexed to the petition is a
5th S. I. JUNE 6, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
457
detailed account for the funeral expenses, and at
the end of it appears a statement, dated August 8,
1649, and signed " T. Harrison," to the effect that
Mr. Herbert and Mr. Mildmay had received
229Z. 5s. from him (Harrison) and from Captain
Fauconberg, and that having examined the several
receipts and items, he approves of the account.
There seems no doubt, therefore, that the money
was paid in 1649 ; but in 1656 Herbert, to avoid
being further troubled about it, applied for an
order of the Protector and his Council to confirm
and ratify his former discharge.
HENRY W. HENFEET.
5, Queen Anne's Gate, S. W.
"THE NIGHT CROW" (5th S. i. 25, 114, 293.)—
May not this be one of the many names of the
night-jar, alias goat-sucker, fern-owl, churn-owl,
&c. 1 The strange noise made by this bird, in the
stillness of the night, causes it to be regarded with
superstitious terror in many countries. When it
perches, as it sometimes will do, on the roof of a
cottage, or on a tree close by, and from thence
utters its boding cry, it is believed to portend a
death in the family or some other great misfortune.
E. McC-.
Guernsey.
The Lady of the Lake contains the following : —
" But the Lark's shrill fire may come
At the daybreak from the fallow,
And the Bittern sound his drum
Booming o'er the sedgy shallow."
The noise made by the bittern does not come
through the throat ; hence Sir Walter Scott speaks
of " sounding the drum," which comes "booming"
at night or morning from the marshes which he
frequents. There is some doubt whether the cor-
morant and the bittern are exactly the birds
referred to by tke prophet Zephaniah.
JOSEPH FiSHEFv.
Waterford.
There is a whole chapter (27 lib. xii.) upon the
" night crow " in Batman uppon Bartholomc his
booke De proprietatibus rerum, 1582, fol., a work
with which Shakspeare, according to Douce, was
well acquainted. Unfortunately the page which
contains it is missing in my copy. Gesner, in his
Natural History, Frankf., 1617, vol. ii. p. 566,
gives a picture of a bird which he says is called
night crow in the neighbourhood of Strasbourg,
and which is unmistakably the night heron,
Ardea nycticorax. CHARLES SWAINSON.
Highhurst Wood.
THE ACACIA (4th S. xii. passim; 5th S. i. 57,
197, 316.)— If R. will turn to my note (p. 197), he
will find that I stated (not on my own authority,
for I have never been in Palestine) that the Acacia
Tortilla grew on the slopes of Sinai. If it be
identical with the Eobinea, and R.'s assertion is a
fact, then, of course, he is right, and the French
encyclopaedist is wrong ! Will R. obligingly in-
form me whether the Robinea and Tortilla are
different names for the common locust tree ; and if
they are so, on what authority he states this 1
JAMES HENRY DIXON.
HERALDIC (5th S. i. 188, 315.)— The holly-leaf
coat (properly the leaves are seven in number) is
not borne by the family of La Vienville, as stated
by NEPHRITE, but by the Marquesses, afterwards
Dukes, of Vienville. on whose escutcheon it was
borne in pretence ; and, according to Rietstap, for
the Breton family of Coskaer.
In the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries
.there was so much irregularity in the use of
coronets in France, even by persons who had not
the slightest claim to belong to the haute noblesse,
that the use of the coronet of a marquess on the
silver plate does not at all necessarily imply that
its possessor had really that rank. These assump-
tions were so frequent that se marquiser became a,
proverbial expression. Even now many French
barons and counts adorn their arms with the
coronets pertaining to a superior grade.
J. WOODWARD.
" MASK" (5th S. i. 50, 373, 396.)— MR. COLLINS'S
informant, who told him that Mask's Pencillings
of Politicians were first published in the Morning
Chronicle, misled him ; they originally appeared in
the News, a Sunday paper started by the Hunts
(Leigh Hunt and his brother), but which, when
Mask's sketches appeared, was the property of
Bernard Gregory, who contemporaneously owned
the Satirist. As in his Pencillings Mask, in
many of his subjects — especially that of Lord
Lyndhurst — may be said, in the language of Lord
Norbury, to have pencilled them with a pickaxe,
the idea of Mr. Grant's having written them is about
as preposterous as the theory, started in irony by one
of the wits of the Rolliad, in his burlesque pam-
phlet, Dickey Suett, the Author of Junius. Mr.
Grant could no more have written them than small
beer could transform itself into proof brandy.
CHARLES R. HYATT.
Charterhouse.
OXBERRY'S " DRAMATIC BIOGRAPHY " (5th S,
i. 247, 375, 418.)— Mr. William Oxberry most
certainly was no mere creation of the fertile brain
of Duncombe. In the edition of the work pub-
lished by G. Virtue, Ivy Lane, in 1827, there are
28 pp. devoted to his biography. He was born
18th December, 1784, facing Bedlam, then in
Moorfields ; his father an auctioneer. He was
once stabbed on the stage with a real dagger
by Mrs. Beaumont, which looks as if he had an
actual existence ; and after many histrionic vicis-
situdes, he took the " Craven's Head" chop-house,
in Drury Lane, and there, as he used to say, " we
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[5th S. I. JUNE 6, 74.
vocalize on a Friday, conversationalize on a Sun-
day, and chopize every day." He was always a
free liver, and died of apoplexy 9th June, 1824,
and he lies buried in a vault in St. Clement Danes,
in the Strand. The memoir concludes with a fac-
simile of his handwriting. In 1824 he received
sixty guineas for playing eighteen times in six
weeks. C. A. WARD.
Mayfair.
I have six volumes of this amusing book. The
first five were published by George Virtue, Ivy
Lane ; the sixth bears the name of Buncombe,
Little Queen Street, Holborn. This will explain
MR. WYLIE'S difficulty.
WALTER THORNBURY.
N. is quite right in his conjecture. The late
L. T. T. Rede was the author of these biographies.
He married Oxberry's widow in 1824.
OLPHAR HAMST.
SHORT-HAND WRITING (5th S. i. 126, 196, 396.)
— Of the antiquity of short-hand writing, " Thomas
Shelton, Author and teacher of ye said art Al-
lowed by authoritie, London, printed by M. S.,
and are sold at the Author's house in Bores-head
court by Cripple Gate, 1659," says, in his " Zeiglo-
graphia; or, a new art of Short writing never
before published, more easie, exact, short and
speedie than any heretofore. Invented and com-
posed by Thomas Shelton," that —
" It is a saying of Solomon, There is no new thing
under the Sun, but that which now is hath been : I doe
beleeve it hath a truth concerning this very art of
Charactery, which though it were not so exact formerly,
yet hath run along through all Ages. There seemeth to
be hint of it in the placing of the Vowels in the writing
of the Hebrew. It is reported of some of the fathers in
ancient time, that they preached every day, as Chry-
sostome by name, to the people of Antioch, whose
Homilies are yet extant, which hardly could have been
transcribed so fast, without some help this way. I have
seen a book almost as antient as printing, and in the
frontispiece printed, This was taken by characters.
Within this last century divers men have published
several methods of short writing, as Mr. Bale, Mr.
Bright, John and Edmond Willis, Will Labourer, and
others. Above thirty years since I endeavoured to do
somewhat that way, and composed a book with the best
skill I then had, which with God's blessing proved bene
ficial to many."
MAURICE LENIHAN, M.R.I.A.
Limerick.
BUDA (5th S. i. 287, 374, 417.)— Would H. W.
kindly add to the value of the information so
obligingly communicated by mentioning what may
be known as to the when and why the city Pest,
or Pec, meaning oven, of which Of en is the German
translation, obtained its appellation? E.
COL- IN CoL-Fox (5th S. i. 141, 211, 371, 417/
— Collie has nothing to do with either the colour o
a dog or with his tail. I lived some years in the
highlands ; I heard then all young dogs called
jollie until they had some individual name given
/hem. Collie, then, is equivalent to whelp.
E. L. BLENKINSOPP.
OLD SAWS : THE OAK AND THE ASH (5th S. i.
408) :—
" When the oak comes before the ash,
We shall only have a splash :
When the ash comes before the oak,
Then we're sure to have a soak."
2.
" A wet Good Friday and wet Easter Day
Makes plenty of grass and very little hay."
3.
" A mackerel sky and mare's tails
Makes lofty ships carry low sails."
4.
" When the wind comes before the rain,
Lower your topsails and hoist them again :
When the rain comes before the wind,
Lower your topsails and take them in."
The last two are nautical proverbs, which I have
never known to fail. FREDERICK MANT.
[See " N. & Q." 1st S. v. 534, 581 ; vi. 5, 50, 71, 144, 241 ;
2nd S. x. 184, 256, 374, 416; xi. 458; 4th S. iv. 53, 106;
xi. 421,509; xii. 184.]
THE WATERLOO AND PENINSULAR MEDALS (5th
S. i. 47, 98, 136, 217, 235, 236, 378, 396, 438.)—
If MR. DILKE refers to page 111 of the monthly
Army List for February, 1849, he will there find
the envied W before the names of Grant, Gunning,
and Hume, Inspectors-General of Hospitals. See
also page 84 for February, and page 68 for July,
1820, &c. The prefix W was not used until the
regiments and corps forming "the army of oc-
cupation" had returned to England; hence the
reason of its not appearing in the Army Lists of
1815-16 ; nor in others until near the end of 1818.
J. W. FLEMING.
Brighton.
" MATHEMATICAL RECREATIONS " (5th S. i. 269,
334.)— William Leybourne's portrait forms the
frontispiece to his work, Mathematical Sciences in
Nine Books, published by Bassil, Tooke & Co.,
1690. The following note appears at foot : —
„ . J Salutis, 1690.
Anno 1 ^Etatis 64, Oct. 18."
EVERARD HOME COLEMAN.
NOTES ON BOOKS, &c.
King Edward the Third: a Historical Play attributed by
Edward Capell to William Shakespeare, and now
proved to be his Work by J. Payne Collier. (Printed
for Private Circulation only.)
WE owe to Mr. Payne Collier's courtesy this copy of an
exceedingly able chronicle play. If Mr. Collier has not
exactly proved it to be Shakspeare's work, he has gone
closely to prove that Shakspeare must have had a hand,
and also a head and heart, in it. At all events, Mr.
Payne Collier, in editing, and in his remarks upon, this
5th S. I. JUNE 6, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
459
noble and picturesque drama, has worthily supplemented
much -worthy and noble work of his own in illustration
of Shakspeare and of our old drama generally. He may
rest satisfied that no generously minded lover of these —
of the drama and Shakspeare — will ever forget, or cease
to be grateful for, what Mr. Collier has done in this
respect during his long and industrious life. AVe cannot
but wonder that Edward III. has been so little pressed
by dramatists into dramatic purposes. Bancroft's old
play, acted in 1691, was revived at the Haymarket in
1731. In 1763 it was re-published, as politically appli-
cable to the times, with additions from Ben Jonson, who
had begun a tragedy on the subject of the fall of
Mortimer. Wilkes wrote the savage dedication to Lord
Bute, in which Wilkes entreated his Lordship to assist
Murphy in completing the play : " It is the warmest
wish of my heart," wrote the witty demagogue, " that the
Earl of Bute may speedily complete the story of Roger
Mortimer." Again, we beg to express our best acknow-
ledgments to Mr. Payne Collier for this valuable reprint,
and for the zealous painstaking by which he discovers
Shakspeare's share in the work.
The History of the Holy Grail. Englisht Ab. 1450 A.D.,
by Henry Lonelich Skynner. From the French Prose
(Ab. 1180-1200 A.D.) of Sires Lobiers de Biron. Re-
edited from the unique Paper MS. in Corpus Christi
College, Cambridge, by Fred. J. Furnivall, Esq., M.A.
Part I. (Triibner & Co.)
OF all the publications by the Early English Text
Society (the present is " Extra Series XX."), this edition
of the History of the Holy Grail ranks among the most
interesting. There is scarcely a page in it that does not
afford a sign of Mr. Furnivall's zeal and ability as an
editor. For those who may find some difficulty, the
editor's marginal abbreviations are cleverly contrived to
give the substance of the text. For example, " Si er-
rerent tant par lor iournees ke il vinrent a vne chite qui
auroit non sarras. Si estoit entre babilone & salau-
andre. Di chele chite issirent premierement sarrasin,
& de sarras furent il premierement sarrasin apiela. Ne
son t pas a croire chil qui dient que sarrasin furent
apiele de sarra la feme abraham." The comprehensive
marginal interpretation is, " Sarras whence the Saracens
come, for they are not called after Sara, Abraham's wife."
In a similar way Mr. Furnivall cleverly tells the whole
story of the Holy Grail.
History of the Christian Church, from the Apostolic Age
to the Reformation. By James C. Robertson, Canon of
Canterbury. Vol. III. (Murray.)
THE third of the eight volumes in which this most in-
teresting history will be comprised is now before the
public. It brings its record down to the close of the ninth
century. This intimation will suffice. We will only add that
occasionally the reader of this work comes upon a passage
in which he may find the origin of some modern saying
or story. We have all heard of the gentleman who took
off his hat to a statue of Jupiter in some museum, and
who remarked : " If ever things should turn up again
with you, Sir, in Olympus, I trust you will remember
that I was civil to you in your adversity." The senti-
ment is as old as the time of Gregory of Tours, when
heathen belief was mingled with Christianity, and when,
as Gregory relates, it was a popular saying in Spain
that, " It is no harm if one who has to pass between
heathen altars and God's church should pay his respects
to both."
The Letter- Books of Sir A mias Poulet, Keeper of Mary
Queen of Scots. Edited by John Morris, Priest of the
Society of Jesus. (Burns & Gates.)
IN this most interesting volume there is more to be
learned of the house life of Mary, during her last years
in England, than in any detailed history of her career.
When we read of her complaining that she is annoyed
by the feathers of her bed piercing through the old tick,
we gain a clear idea of many other annoyances. Of her
way of life, too, much is to be found in these Letter-
Books. To show these, however, is not so much the
object of the Rev. editor as to make onslaught against
Mr. Froude, who is even accused of resorting to his
imagination for his facts. Whether Mary was, or was
not, in the Babington conspiracy, she was, and justifiably,
part and parcel of the more extensive conspiracy of in-
vasion, which, had it been successful, would have brought
Elizabeth to the block. It was a duel to the death be-
tween the two women ; " strike or be stricken," as
Elizabeth herself said. The most gloomy part of this
terrible story is that Mary was betrayed by priests and
members of her own church, and by some of her own
countrymen. The details may be perused in this volume,
which, despite some prejudice, is in every page not only
interesting, but important.
Revue Bibliographique Universelle. (Aux Bureaux de la
Revue.) — From the excellent number for May of this
periodical, we select the following extract from Brantome,
Femmes Celebres : Catherine de Medicis — the name of
the lady who first rode on a side-saddle in France :—
" Le Roy Frangois se delectoit a luy faire donner plaisir en
la chasse, en laquelle elle n'abandonnoit jamais le Roy,
et le suivoit tous jours a courir : Car elle estoit fort bien
a cheval et bardie, et s'y tenoit de fort bonne grace ;
ayant est6 la premiere qui avoit mis la jambe sur Tarpon,
d'autant que la grace y estoit bien plus belle et apparois-
sante que sur la planchette, et a tous jours fort ayme
d'aller a cheval jusques a 1'age de soixante ans ou plus,
qui, pour la foiblesse Ten priverent, en ayaut tous les
ennuis du monde." The planchette was the straight
footboard on which both feet rested, as the lady sat side-
ways on the saddle. On what we call the side-saddle
Queen Catherine sat with her face forwards, and other-
wise disposed as ladies are now.
Memoir of the Life and Writings of the Persian Poet
Nizami. Translated from the German of Dr. Wilhelm
Bacher. (Williams & Norgate.)
HERE are two essays ; the first is the memoir, and the
second consists of an Analysis and Specimen of the
Alexander-book, one of Nizami's most important poems,
which the translator believes has hitherto received very
little attention from western writers on Oriental subjects.
The translator modestly expresses a hope that there may
be a few others besides himself who will take the interest
he has felt in his labour of love.
Apollos; or, the Way of God: A Plea for the Religion
of Scripture. By A. Cleveland Coxe, Bishop of Wes-
tern New York. (Parker & Co.)
THE Bishop sets before his readers the example of " in-
organic Christianity" in America, and states that the
religious condition of England must have been the same
as that implied in this phrase, had its Apostolic Church
been finally destroyed by Cromwell. Dr. Coxe is fully
alive to, as he calls them, " the scandals of our times " —
" a fragmentary Christianity; 'a house divided against
itself " by "petty differences." For our own part, they
appear as something worse than idle regrets that love to
linger over the so-called " petty differences " of those
" who profess to believe the Articles of the Christian
faith as contained in the Apostles' Creed." To describe
the " differences " which at the present moment are
distracting the Church of England as "petty" — and
that too with, before our very eyes, what is now going
on in the synod of the disestablished Church of Ireland —
is to our mind, to say the least of it, a perversion of
terms ; the differences referred to are vital and funda-
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NOTES AND QUEBIES.
[5th S. L JUNE 6, 74.
mental because sacramental, and must, therefore, sooner
or later prove fatal to that unitedness of the members
of an institution, which, apparent rather than real, not
even Establishment can maintain for any length of time.
On Early English Pronunciation, with Especial Reference
to Chaucer. By Richard Francis Weymouth, D.Lit.,
M.A. (Asher & Co.)
THIS book is written in opposition to the views main-
tained by our correspondent, MR. A. J. ELLIS, F.R.S., in
his work On Early English Pronunciation, with Especial
Reference to Shalspere and Chaucer. Delay, owing to one
cause and another, has prevented^the appearance of a
•volume to which, considering theWeubject of which it
treats, not a few of our readers will turn with pleasure.
If, by saying so, it will afford Dr. Weymouth any consola-
tion for having had to restrict the length of his paper,
we can assure him that, on the principle of fisya
f3t[3\iov /i«ya KUKOV, we are never slow in urging, to
quote his own words, " that an argument, if sound, is
often none the worse for being condensed."
The Presuppositions of Critical History. By F. H.
Bradley, Fellow of Merton College, Oxford. (Parker
&Co.)
MR. BRADLEY applies the term " barbarous " to the title
of his volume, which, however, he says, anticipates its
method, and, to some extent, its conclusion. The
"method consists in taking the existence of certain
facts for granted, and in endeavouring to discover the
conditions of that existence." In speaking of the ap-
plication of anything he has set down to religious ques-
tions, the author claims to be responsible only for what
he has said, not for what any other person may choose
to conclude, and, towards the end of his Preface, adds
the following words, which will meet with hearty sym-
pathy in the minds of not a few : " Courage to express
one's views has long ceased to be a virtue. Except where
persons are concerned, there is no merit in possessing it,
and it is on the fair way to become a vice. And,
•especially where religion is involved, there is one courage
it is well to be free from, the courage to utter one's
{mere) opinions."
SIR HENRY OGLANDER, BART., whose death was re-
cently announced, belonged to what may be called an
historical family. Of Scandinavian origin, Richard de
Orglander came over with the Conqueror. He ultimately
settled at Nunwell, after he had added the Isle of Wight
to the territory subdued by the Normans. From that
time to this day Nunwell has not lacked the presence of
an Oglander. " Lords of Nunwell," they were once called.
A branch of the family, the " Oglandes," still flourishes
in Normandy.
BOOKS AND ODD VOLUMES
WANTED TO PURCHASE.
Particulars of Price, &c., of the following books to be sent direct to
the person by whom they are required, whose name and address are
given for that purpose :—
SUKTEES SOCIETY :— Durham Wills, Vol. I. ; Coldingham Inventories ;
Bower Correspondence ; Durham Household Book ; Depositions
respecting the .Rebellion of 1568.
Wanted by Edward. Peacock, Bottesford Manor, Brigg.
to
HERALD. — It is quite intelligible. As, in a peer's
family, the daughters take precedence of all their brothers'
wives except the wife of the eldest, so, in the royal
family, after the Queen, comes, in order of precedency, the
Princess of Wales, as wife of the heir apparent ; next to
this lady, the sovereign's daughters ; and after them the
wives of the sovereign's sons, excepting the wife, as
before said, of the heir apparent. Such order can only
be set aside by special arrangement.
R. PASSINGHAM. — The extract which you forward,
from Public Opinion, confirms R. W. F.'s statement
that Beckford was interred in consecrated ground. The
paragraph runs : — " He would there be aggrieved by the
sight of the tomb of the accomplished Beckford, itself
unconsecrated, in the midst of consecrated ground."
F. STORR. — Jedburgh justice, Lidford law, Abingdon
law, and Colorado law ; all imply execution before judg-
ment. At Abingdon, the Commonwealth Major- General
Brown first hanged a man, and then tried him. The
process was of older origin, but the name of the founder
has not been perpetuated.
TORMENTED, and several other correspondents, who
ask us how they may best prevent or kill bookworms,
are referred to " N. & Q.," Jan. 18, 1868, where an ex-
cellent recipe was given by an esteemed correspondent,
MR. W. BATES. See also Mr. John Power's Handy Book
about Booh, p. 46.
F. SHARP. — The word "Diva," now so commonly given
to foreign female singers, was first applied to Vittoria
Colonna (the widowed Marchesa Pescara), the noble
Italian poetess, who died in 1547. Michael Angelo kissed
her hand as she died, in homage to her great qualities.
W. T. M. apologizes for a blunder : — " His communica-
tion, 5th S. i. 439, was written from memory, and in-
advertently sent off without verification. The Mount-
eagle letter does not contain the phrase asked for."
Miss B. J. — The " Black Watch " is a regimental name,
derived from the sombre hue of the regimental tartans.
The " Red Soldiers " was the name given by the Gael to
the English troops.
F. S. DONALDSON, 14, Caroline Street, Bedford Square,
W.C., asks for " particulars of any editions of the Book
of Sports which may have been published this century."
H. B. C.— See p. 416 for "Jerusalem Conquistada."
We have no recollection of receiving the Greek epigram;
please repeat.
WALTER THORNBURY. — Is not "Man-a-lost" antici-
pated? See " N. & Q.," p. 433.
E. A. B.— " Jessamy Bride," see " N. & Q.," 4th S. ix.
94,149,204,327; x. 138.
EPIGRAM. — " Treason doth never prosper," &c., Sir
John Harrington, Epigrams, iv. 5.
NUMMUS (0. & C. Club.)— Please only write on one
side of your paper.
H. F. BLYTH.— He was most certainly a confirmed
opium eater.
E. W. SCALE.— See Murray's Handbooks for Sussex and
Suffolk.
DOUBLE B.— " Faws " = itinerant broom-vendors ; a
northern name.
M. B. WATFORD. — The epitaph has been often printed.
J. PICKFOHD. — Many thanks.
NOTICE.
Editorial Communications should be addressed to " The
Editor " — Advertisements and Business Letters to " The
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London, W.C.
We beg leave to state that we decline to return com-
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to this rule we can make no exception.
To all communications should be affixed the name and
address of the sender, not necessarily for publication, but
as a guarantee of good faith.
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LONDON, SATURDAY, JUNE 13, 1874.
CONTENTS.— N« 24.
NOTES-:— Professor Becker's "Gallus": The Skin of Silenus,
Garum and Sumen, 461— Shakspeare and Thomas Kyd, 462—
Poets and Proper Names— The Emperor Alexander II., 464—
Ulster Peculiarities— Inscription— Byron— Milton's Mulberry
Tree— Bell Inscriptions, Whence come they ?— Longevity
—Job's Disease— Chance, 465— Parallel Passages— Bishop of
Cork, A. D. 1425-1449, 466.
QUERIES :— A Curious Belie of Old Calcutta, 466— William
Tyrrell, 1462— Bishop (?) Scory and the Earl of Essex— Princes
of the Blood Royal, 467— Authors Wanted—" Auld Wife
Hake "— " The Light House," or " The Beacon "—Hereditary
Knights of the Order of St. John of Jerusalem — " Th'
berrin's gone by," &c. — The Crowns Worn by the Kings of
England — Paris Prisons — The River Garnock — Leyden,
468 — " Ibhar "— " Markey "—Bradley Arms — The Earl of
Derby, Son to the Duke of Lancaster— R. F. Jameson, 469.
EEPLIES :— Names of the Combatants at Perth, 469— English
Surnames, 470 — Spelling Reforms — " Every man is the
architect," &c., 471 — Properties of Fountains — The Ameri-
can Civil War — Numismatic— " Pentecost'1 as a Christian
Name, 472— Tea— W ell-Dressing at Tissington, 473— Marriage
Portions to Female Servants — " Scrupe " — Inscription—
Oresman— "Conservative"— "J. M. K." — "Wiggs"— Beauty
in Death— Heraldic, 474— Noble's " House of Commons "—
Richard and Samuel Blechynden — The "Archidoxes" —
" Bugaboo " — Horace Walpole's Charade— Clio Rickman—
Ballad on Martinmas Day, 475— Thomas Frye— "That beats
Akebo" — The Irish Peerage— Swale Family — Mortimer of
Wigmore, 476— Shirley Family— Chevaliers of the Golden
Spur— Leopards in Heraldry, 477.
Notes on Books, &c.
flats*.
PROFESSOR BECKER'S " GALLUS " : THE SKIN
OF SILENUS, GARUM AND SUMEN.
In the course of some recent researches into the
history of ancient cookery, I have naturally been led
to explore that mine of curious learning, the Gallus
of the late Professor Becker; and, in the famous
•chapter of the Banquet, I have come on a pas-
sage which, in the first instance, puzzled me
exceedingly. A portion of it, I think, I have
•succeeded in understanding ; but there yet remain
one or two points for the, elucidation of which I
must crave the assistance of the correspondents of
" N. & Q." Here is the passage. I must premise
that I am quoting from the English translation of
Gallus, executed by the Rev. Frederick Metcalfe,
M.A. (third edition, Longmans & Co., 1866) : —
"In the centre of the plateau " (the gustatorium, con-
taining the first course, or hors-d'oeuvres), "ornamented
•with tortoiseshell, stood an ass of bronze, on either side
of which hung silver panniers, filled with black and
white olives, preserved by the art of the cook until this
season of the year : on the back of the beast sat a Silenus
Jrom whose skin (he most delicious garum flowed upon the
Sumen beneath."
This passage suggests two curious questions.
First, by what means, mechanical or otherwise, did
the garum " flow " from the " skin " of Silenus ]
Was he made to perspire through his bronze pores,
and if so, how 1 One can scarcely imagine a
fountain of fish sauces, for the reason that the spray
thereof would have sprinkled all the surrounding
hors-d'wuvres without distinction ; and garum was
not, presumably, used as a condiment for such cates
as sausages and Syrian plums. The spouting
garum would, besides, have made a nasty mess of
the entire and delicately arranged apparatus.
And why, finally, should the garum flow from
Silenus's " skin," instead of the more convenient
aperture of his mouth ? The obscurity of the pas-
sage is, however, almost entirely cleared away by a
reference to Becker's Excursus on the Banquet
chapter, in which, speaking of garum, he remarks :
" The Silenus from whose skin it is here made to drop
is not to be found in Petronius, although in c. 36 he has
something similar : ' Circa angulos repositorii notavimus
Marsyas quatuor ex quorum utriculis garum piperatum
currebat super pisces qui in euripo natabant.' "
The learned Becker would perhaps have done
better to have preserved the " four Marsyases "
in his text ; his own picture is obscure, whereas
the description of Petronius gives as clear an
idea of the arrangement of the repositorium as
a chromo-lithograph in Jules Gouffe's Livre de
Cuisine gives the idea of a modern centre-piece.
We see at once that the plateau was not only a
tray for holding dishes, but a highly ornamental
cruet-stand. Garum flowed from the little skins
of the four Marsyases ; but what were those
utriculi ? Why, obviously bagpipes. Divested of
its fantastic allegory, the myth of Marsyas resolves
itself into this : that he was a popular performer
on the pipes ; that Apollo was an equally popular
and more skilful performer on the violin ; that
Tweedledum and Tweedledee had a contest for
musical pre-eminence ; that the fiddler won the
day ; and that Apollo, as was customary, took the
arms of the vanquished : that is to say, his bagpipes.
But the Greeks allegorized everything, and they
made the triumphant Apollo flay the defeated
Marsyas alive. I need scarcely remark that this
explanation of the legend is not derived from the
laborious but unintelligent Lempriere, from whom
critics, who read nothing else, seem to imagine
that scholars borrow all their classical information.
Marsyas, consequently, prior to his defeat, would
be represented with a " skin " or bagpipe under his
arm (and not with a flute, as the plodding Lem-
priere infers) ; and this was the view evidently
taken by Becker in his substitution of the figure
of Silenus for Marsyas ; since the deboshed
companion of Bacchus is often figured with a
bagpipe. A wine-skin (but that Marsyas was
no Bacchanalian) would serve as well as a re-
pository for garum ; and from the mouth or tube
of this " skin " the sauce might tricklef into the
euripus, or narrow channel grooved in the plateau,
in which channel " uatabant pisces." If the " skin "
were made of leather with a metal pipe, a more
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[5th S. I. JUNB 13, 7
copious supply of garum might, when required, be
procured by pressure between the finger and thumb.
On the whole, Messrs. Elkington might make us a
very pretty and perfectly practicable model, in
oxidized silver, of Silenus with his wine-skin, his
donkey and his panniers for olives, or of a plateau
with the four ^arttm-filled bagpipes at the corners.
I have not read Becker in German. What word
does he use for "skin"? " Haut," " Balg,"
"schale," or " halst" ? And surely the English
translator might have had the grace to tell us
whether by the " skin " of Silenus was meant his
cutis, or a set of bagpipes, or a leathern bottle.
But English translations are, as a rule, next to
Troy's horse, the woodenest things in the world.
With respect to the sumen over which Becker, but
not Petronius, describes the garum as flowing, I
am still somewhat in the dark, and must throw
myself on the mercy of your perspicuous readers.
I understand sumen to mean a breast, a pap, a
teat, a dug, an udder, and, by meton., a sow. Was
the term sumen used to express generically the
good things on the board — the fat of the table-land
of delicacies ? I know that sumen, in the ancient
cookery books, quoting from Martial and Pliny,
was " a meate made of the pappes of a sowe cut
from her the day after she hath farrowed, and
powdered with salt " ; and, according to Cooper
(Thesaurus), sumen was sometimes used per trans-
lationem to express " the fat of Italy "— the fat of
the land. Sumen seems to have been occasionally
employed as a dainty in modern Italy ; at least
there is a story of Lady Hamilton having a box
full of " sowe's pappes " imported from Naples
early in the present century. The box was opened
at the custom-house, and the officers were sadly
puzzled to discover whether sumen was a dutiable
article. But why should the garum in Becker
flow only over the sumen ? Was the sumen, as a
receptacle for liquid, equivalent to the euripus, or
gravy-channel ? Or was the sumen merely the
broad breast or field of the tray ?
GEORGE AUGUSTUS SALA.
Brompton.
SHAKSPEARE AND THOMAS KYD.
It is not easy to account for Ben Jonson's selec-
tion of Kyd to couple with Marlowe in the memor-
able lines prefixed to the folio. The mention of
Marlowe we may perhaps understand either with
or without the assistance of the hypothesis which
assigns him a share in the Contention, and he, at
any rate, was worthy of the implied rivalry ; but
why Kyd, whose name appears upon the title-page
of no drama of his own, and whose memory cannot
have been very fresh in 1623 1 It is evident that
the allusion was not intended to be merely com-
plimentary, for Kyd, assuming him to have been
the author, or chief author of the Spanish Tragedy
dramas,* had been for year,s the butt of his brother
play-wrights ; and to say that Shakspeare "out-
shone" Kyd, was very much as if one said that
Milton surpassed Blackmore, or that Burns ex-
celled Captain Morris. It is impossible, therefore,
to resist the inference that there must have been
some circumstances in Shakspeare's relation to Kyd
which made the allusion apposite.
It is worth notice that Marlowe and Kyd are the
only contemporary dramatists who have been
quoted or alluded to by Shakspeare. Marlowe with
respect as " the dead shepherd," and Kyd with
ridicule in the Introduction to The Taming of the
Shrew and King John. In the few contemporary
notices which exist of Kyd we generally find him
in close proximity to Shakspeare. In 1594, Har-
bert, in either the first or second undoubted allu-
sion to Shakspeare which has come down to us>
couples them together in a complimentary notice : —
" You that have writ of chaste Lucretia,
Whose death was witnesse of her spotlesse life,
Or pen'd the praise of sad Cornelia,
Whose blameless name hath made her fame so rife ";
and Meres, in 1598, mentions Kyd next to, and
immediately before, Shakspeare. In 1595, the
author of the Polimanteia notices both Shakspeare
and Kyd; the latter in terms which probably
afford us a glimpse of his relative position at the
time. Shakspeare is " sweet Skakespeare " ; and
although the notice is only marginal, it is in com-
pany with the textual notices of Spenser and
Daniel. Kyd, on the other hand, is placed among;
the " smaller lights," and Gamier is condoled with
upon " having his poore Cornelia stand naked vpon
every poste," which, I presume, is an Elizabethan
periphrasis for " does not sell," while a note in the
margin tells us, in a patronizing way, that it is " a
work, howsoever not respected, excellently well
done by Th. Kidd."
I believe, however, that an earlier and more
important allusion to Kyd is to be found in a well-
known passage of Nash's Preface to Greene's Mena-
phon (1589). This passage is by far the most
valuable of the very few contemporary notices
which relate to that mysterious birth-time of the
Shakspearian drama ; and most of the editors and
critics, from Farmer downwards, have pressed por-
tions of it into the service of their theories, but
I do not remember that any one has ventured to
attack the crux as a whole.
Nash, who was at that time a young man of
twenty-two, fresh from Cambridge, writes : —
" I will turn back to my first text of studies of delight,
and talk a little in friendship with a few of our trivial
translators. It is a common practice now-a-daies amongst
a sort of shifting companions, that runne through every
arte and thrive by none, to leave the trade of noverint
whereto they were borne, and busie themselves with the
* Under this designation I include The Firtt Part of
Jeronymo, The Spanish Tragedy, and Soliman and Per-
teda, the subject of the sub-drama of the latter.
5th S. I. JUICE 13, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
463
indevors of Art, that could scarcelie latinize their necke-
verse if they should have neede ; yet English Seneca
read by candle light yeeldes manie good sentences as
' Blood is a beggar,' and so foorth, and if you entreate
him faire in a frostie morning, he will affoord you whole
Hamlets, I should say handfulls of tragical speaches.
But 0 grief ! tempus edax rerum, what 'a that will last
alwaies 1 The sea exhaled by droppes will in continuance
be drie ; and Seneca let bloud line by line and page by
page at length must needes die to our stage."
Thus far Malone quotes the passage, and be-
lieves that these allusions were intended to apply
to Kyd on account of his translation of Garnier's
tragedy of Cornelia, Gamier having been a pro-
fessed imitator of Seneca. But Kyd's translation
was only printed in 1594, and Nash was writing in
1588, or 1589, the critic probably having been led
into this piece of inconsequence by quoting from a
late edition of the Menaphon. If Malone had
pursued his quotation a little further, he would
have found another allusion, which I think goes far
to make it certain that Nash intended to refer to
Kyd. Nash proceeds : —
"Which makes his famisht followers to imitate the
Kidde in ^Isop, who enamored with the Foxes new
fangles, forsooke all hopes of life to leap into a new
occupation ; and these men renouncing all possibilities
of credit or estimation to intermeddle with Italian trans-
lations, wherein how poorelie they have plodded (as those
that are neither provenzall-men [pouerzal-men, ed. 1610],
nor are able to distinguish of articles,) let all indifferent
gentlemen that have travailed in that tongue, discerne
by their two-penie pamphlets. And no mervaile though
their home-born mediocritie be such in this matter ; for
what can be hoped of those that thrust Elysium into
Hell, and have not learned, so long as they have lived in
the spheares the just measure of the Horizon without an
hexameter 'l. Sufficeth them to bodge up a blanke-verae
with ifs and ands, and other while for recreation after
their candle-stuffe, having starched their beardes most
curiouslie, to make a peripateticall path into the inner
parts of the City, and spend two or three bowers in
turning over French Doudie, where they attract more
infection in one minute than they can do eloquence all
dayes of their life, by conversing with anie authors of
like argument."
The allusion to " the Kidde in ^Isop " seems to
be one of those puns upon names which were so
much to the taste of the Elizabethans. Even Ben
Jonson was unable to resist the temptation to apply
the epithet "sporting" to Kyd, which must have
been in ironical allusion to the name, for of all
English writers Kyd is perhaps the least entitled
to be called sportive. The phrase " blood letting
in every line " is also most appropriate if applied
to Kyd, who glories in his " wrathful muse " and
" The husky humours of her bloody quill."
Some years ago Mr. Collier discovered in the
Stationers' Books some entries, which make it
probable that Kyd was accustomed to publish
narratives of famous murders, and one of these
pamphlets has been recovered and reprinted.
There is no direct evidence to identify the drama-
tist with the reporter of murders, but it is unlikely
that there were two Thomas Kyds at this period,
and it is certain that no man then living would be
better able to " do a murder " than the author of
the Spanish Tragedy.
The allusion to " Italian translators " also fits
Kyd. The year before Nash wrote he had pub-
lished " The Householder's Philosophic, first written
in Italian by that excellent orator and poet, Signer
Torquato Tasso, and now translated by T. K.,"
Lond., 1588. Although this work has never been
ascribed to Kyd by the bibliographers, there can
be little doubt, I think, that it is his. It is signed
at the end —
" Me mea sic tua te caetera mortis erunt.
T. K."
— a bit of mannerism that was afterwards repeated
at the end of Cornelia, —
" Non prosunt domino, quae prosunt omnibus, artes.
THO. KYD."
Of his clumsy verse, and how far it merited Nash's
ridicule, four lines will be enough. From Virgil, —
" The first sleep ended, after midnight did the woman
wake,
That liv'd by spinning, and she gins the ymbers up to
rake."
From Plutarch, —
"So that I see I am become her liege man and her
thrall,
That made impressions in my hart and printed hers
withall."
It is probably on account of this translation that
Meres, in his curious parallel between the poets of
England and Italy, gives to Kyd in England the
place of Tasso among the Italian poets. The
Householder's Philosophie is dedicated to " the
worshipfull and vertuous Maister Thomas Eeade."
Is anything known of this gentleman 1
The sense of the passage depends in a great
measure upon the way in which we interpret
" English Seneca." Malone, and other writers, who
have tried to solve this riddle, take it for granted
that under that epithet Nash must have intended
to stigmatize some particular person — probably
Kyd or Shakspeare. I would rather suggest that
" English Seneca " is more likely to be a generic
expression for the tragic dramatists of the period,
and that the allusion may therefore, possibly, refer
to Kyd and Shakspeare. The antithetical men-
tion of "candle light," and "a frosty morning,"
refers, perhaps, to the principal difference between
the private and the public theatres and inn yards,
the performances in the former taking place by
candle-light, and in the latter by daylight. I am
inclined, therefore, to infer that Nash is sneering
at two distinct plays — then before the town to-
gether, or one immediately following upon the
ither — the first in which the phrase " blood is a
beggar" occurs, the other an early version of
Hamlet.
Nearly all the commentators, with the notable
exception, however, of Mr. Knight, have assumed
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5th S. I. JUNE 13, 74.
the existence at this period of a version of Hamlet,
now lost, which they have attributed to Kyd. In
another note upon this subject, I propose to lay
before your readers a few considerations which in-
duce me to believe that Kyd had nothing to do
with this drama in any shape, and tending to show
that Hamlet, as we now possess it, presents such
marked points of resemblance to the Spanish Tra-
gedy as to suggest the inference that it stands to
the latter almost in the relation of a rival analogue.
C. ELLIOT BROWNE.
POETS AND PROPER NAMES.
UNEDA (5th S. i. 385) notices Campbell going
astray in his pronunciation of Wyoming, and
though I have no doubt of the accuracy of your
Philadelphian correspondent (whose contributions
I, for one, am always pleased to read), I think it
well to call attention to the endorsement of Camp-
bell's fault by a first-class American poet, Fitzgreen
Halleck, who, in his short poem on Wyoming,
not only adopts Campbell's line, but subsequently
confirms his rhythm thus : —
" Judge Hallenbach — who keeps the toll-bridge gate
And the town records— is the Albert now
Of Wyoming : like him in Church and State
Her Doric column."
But other poets may be cited as falling into similar
errors. Shakspeare's lapse in Dunsinane is referred
to in " N. & Q." 4th S. ix. 103, and he persistently,
in some half-dozen passages, misses the classical
run of Hyperion.
To come nearer our own times, I believe a curious
list might be made out. The literary men in the
former half of the last century never quite made
up their minds as to the prosody of Hanover, and
treated the word with liberality, according to the
dictates of their fancy or the exigency of their
requirements. Praed, in his School and School-
fellows, has —
" And Darell studies week by week
His Mant and not his Manton,
And Ball, who was but poor at Greek,
Is very rich at Canton."
Now, Canton here is not a trochaic Swiss
department, but an iambic Chinese city ; and I
may perhaps be permitted a by-note, viz., that
about the time these lines appeared there was
actually a gentleman named Ball in the H.E.I.C.S.
resident at Canton. Whether the allusion be acci-
dental or intentional, I cannot say.
My old friend, the late W. E. Aytoun, in his
Nuptial Ode, 1863, gives us—
" From where the hoary heap of Tintagell";
making Tintagell an amphimacer, whereas it is an
amphibrach, unless on a change tout cela since I
was there, some four-and-twenty years ago.
Nor can I, presumptuous, pass by the Poet-
Laureate. Will any Sussex or other man read
this and defend it ? It is from a short poem that
appeared in the Examiner, and was entitled " The
Third of February, 1852":—
" And you, my Lords, you make the people muse
In doubt if you be of our barons' breed,
Were those your sires who fought at Lewes I
Is this the manly strain of Runnymede ? "
Another living author,, who wrote two or three
years ago on the art and accomplishment of verse,
made the penultimate of Lemures long !
I am in the habit of hearing the name of the
South American chief Bolivar pronounced as a
dactyl, whereas (and here let me bear witness to-
a poet's correctness) Halleck, above alluded to,,
strikes the proper rhythm in —
" Born in a camp, its watch-fires bright
Alone illumed my cradle-bed ;
And I had borne with wild delight
My banner where Bolivar led."
Before putting my pen down I may note, al-
though tribunal is not a proper name, that Byron
has a curious perversion of its rhythm : —
" Thank God ! at least they will not drag him more
Before that horrid tribunal — would he
But think so." — Two Foscari, Act ii. sc. i.
Odd that Byron should have forgotten his Juvenal
(x. 35) :—
" Prsetexta et trabeae, fasces, lectica, tribunal."
W. T. M.
Shinfield Grove.
THE EMPEROR ALEXANDER II. — The English
Press could hardly have invented a more inge-
niously unpleasant method of speaking of Alex-
ander II. than naming him " Czar." " Cz " is a
Polish sound, having no value in any other
European tongue (except Magyar, in which it is
different), and is pronounced "tch"; Czar being
thus the Polish spelling of a purely Russian word,
and pronounced " Tchar." The Eussian alphabet
being different from the Roman, it is difficult to-
say what letters in the latter most fitly represent
the single Russian letter, but I can see no reason
why " ts " should not answer the purpose. The r
at the end of the word is soft, and causes it to-
sound almost like a dissyllable, " Tsarie."
The supposed connexion with the Caesar and
Kaiser family evidently is present before the
mental eye of such as write " Czar," but the word
is probably Turanian ; at all events, it has no-
relation to the Latin title.
The oft-repeated formula, " Emperor of all the
Russias," is a gross error. The title, literally
translated, is "All-Russian Emperor," and does
not, as one of my friends imagined, draw a fine
distinction between the ruler of Russia in Europe
and Russia in Asia, divisions dear to the school-
boy's heart. ASHTON W. DILKE.
S. I. JUNK 13, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
465
ULSTER PECULIARITIES. — In Tyrone, a labourer
will speak of " joining " any work, meaning begin-
ning it. If he has worked for a farmer, he says,
" I wrought to him. Among their Scotch idioms,
they say of a married person, that he or she was
" married upon " such a one ; they will say that
one "would have done" so and so, meaning "used
to do " ; " that I should have said " means " that
I said." They alter surnames to such a degree
that they can hardly be recognized, e. g., Kings-
borough has become Kennybrock ; Mac Pherson,
Fawson; Herd, Hird, Hurd, Shepherd, occur in
members of the same family ; also Mac Adam,
Mac Caddom, Caddom, Caddo ; Mac Dowell is
called Medole; Mac Neely, Meneely, &c. These
Irish or Scotch families have assumed English
names, having often the faintest resemblance to
the original. Thus, Mac Skinader^Skeffington ;
Magwiggan = Goodwin ; Mac Teague = Mon-
tague ; Maca Ree = King ; Hagan — Hayden, &c.
S. T. P.
INSCRIPTION. — A quaint specimen of village
Latin is to be found on a tombstone in North
Ot^terington churchyard, as follows : —
So-and-so died A.D. 18
M. Tatis Suze 80 !
J. H.
BYRON. —
" In the year since Jesus died for men
Eighteen hundred years and ten."
" The cup of consecrated gold :
*****
That morn it held the holy wine,
Converted by Christ to His Blood so divine,
Which His worshippers drank at the break of day,
To shrive their souls ere they joined in the fray."
I am not aware whether the singular mistakes
embodied in the above two quotations from The
Siege of Corinth, have been before noticed. The
making the Christian year date from the Passion
instead of from the Nativity of Our Lord, is a
strange blunder indeed ; and the description of
the chalice no less so, for, as the Venetian garrison
of Corinth were Roman Catholics, they could not,
of course, have partaken of the holy wine. A
friend pointed out the former of these errors to me
theother day,andthe second struck me immediately
afterwards. W. J. BERNHARD SMITH.
Temple.
MILTON'S MULBERRY TREE. — Several of these
trees were planted by Milton in the old Vicarage
garden of Stowmarket, Dr. Young, tutor to
Milton, being then Vicar. But only one is now
left, bound with girders and propt up with poles.
It is still an abundant fruit-bearer, furnishing
annually a considerable quantity of excellent
wine. JOHN FOTHERGILL.
BELL-INSCRIPTIONS, WHENCE COME THEY 1 —
Some from the Service-books of the period in
which the bells were cast. I have not seen this
noticed, so far as I recollect, but think it worth
making a note of. These instances I have met
with without making special search, and I should
be glad to hear of others : —
1. " Sancta Maria or» pro nobis," and others like it
found everywhere. Litany.
2. " Johannes Christi Care," West Chiltington, Sussex.
Sequence for St. John the Evangelist in York, and other
Missals. In Forbes's Saruin it is " Johannes Jesu
chare."
3. " Pura pudica pia, miseris miserere Maria," Salt-
fleetby St. Peter's, Lincolnshire, " Benedictiones de
S. Maria " in Sarum Breviary.
4. '• Christe audi nos," Westminster Abbey. Hereford
Litany.
5. " Stella maria maris, succurre piissima nobis." •
Surely this occurs as a bell-inscription somewhere '!
" Benedictiones de S. Maria," Sarum and York.
6. " Sit nomen Domini beuedictum." Passim. "Bene-
dictio mensae."
J. T. K
Hatfield Hall, Durham.
LONGEVITY. — Baron Alderson says (Life, p. 58)^
that in 1833 he saw in Appleby churchyard, in the
north of England, a tombstone to three persons of
the name of Hall : —
"The grandfather died in 1716, aged 109, and the
father, aged 86, and the son died in 1821, aged 106 ; so
that the father had seen his father, who might have seen
James I., and also his son, who might have seen me"
CYRIL.
JOB'S DISEASE. — The Lancet, 1867, p. 532>
says —
" A paper has lately been read in the French Academy
on Job's disease. At the close of last century one was
read in the Royal Medical Society of Edinburgh to prove
that Job suffered from secondary syphilis. It was clever ;.
but the member was expelled."
Can any trace of this paper be found ? It was
recently remarked to me by a learned clergyman
that many expressions in the Psalms pointed
strongly to David's having suffered from a similar
cause. CYRIL.
CHANCE. — 16th April, 1858. Being on board a
Transatlantic steamer, one night, as I was going to
my cabin with a fellow-passenger, on passing the
saloon table, where some whist-players had left
two packs of cards scattered about on their faces,
and which I had never looked at before (for I did
not play cards), I said jestingly, " I shall turn up
doublets for luck ! " Strange to say, I did turn up
doublets, picked up at random ; and, stranger still,
not once, but eighteen times consecutively, with
only three misses, and of these, oddly enough, two
formed also a doublet. The following is the order
in which I picked them up, as taken from my
diary :— " 6, 6, 8, 8, 6, 6 (8), king, king (5), ace,
ace, 2, 2, 4, 4, knave, knave (5), ace, ace." Had I
been playing for stakes, who could have believed
but that I had some means of knowing the cards !
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5th 8. 1. JUNE 13, 74.
Such " luck " would have been simply incredible,
and I should have been ruined! Who in hi:
senses would have acquitted me 1 S.
PARALLEL PASSAGES. — D'Israeli, in his Curio-
sities of Literature, says the following celebrated
stanza in Gray's Elegy seems partly to be bor-
rowed:—
" Full many a gem of purest ray serene
The dark unfathom'd caves of ocean bear :
Full many a, flower is born to blush unseen,
And waste its sweetness on the desert air."
Pope had said, Rape of the Lock, canto iv. : —
" There kept my charma conceal'd from mortal eye,
Like roses that in deserts bloom and die."
Young says of Nature, Love of Fame, satire 5 : —
" In distant wilds by human eye unseen,
She rears her flowers and spreads her velvet green ;
Pure gurgling rills the lonely desert trace,
And waste their music on the savage race."
And Shenstone has, Elegy iv. : —
" And like the deserts' lily, bloom to fade."
FREDK. EULE.
BISHOP or CORK, A.D. 1425-1449. — In the
new edition of the Paston Letters (vol. i., pp. 19
and 26) there is a notice of a bishop of this
see, who appears to have escaped the researches of
Ware and Cstton. John Paston, or Wortes, a
monk of Brc^iholm Monastery, in the county of
Norfolk, and styled by himself " Prior de Brom-
holm," was consecrated, as Bishop of Cork, at Eome,
in the year 1425, "when there were two other
persons then living provided to the same bishopric."
So it is stated by the writer of this letter, who
repudiates the relationship to the Paston family
claimed by this monk, with whom he had trouble-
some dealings. The see of Cork was filled legiti-
mately, from 1418 to 1430, by Milo Fitz-John, its
last occupant as a distinct bishopric. During his
incumbency great exertions were made by Adam
Pay, Bishop of Cloyne, to unite the see of Cork
to his own, which caused many disputes between
these prelates in a Parliament assembled at Dublin
in April, 1421, but Milo not consenting, they were
referred to the Pope, the cause being judged out
of the cognizance of Parliament, and belonging
properly to the Court of Eome. Both these bishops
having died in the same year, 1430, Pope Martin V.,
before the close of that year, canonically united
the two sees of Cork and Cloyne, and nominated
to them Jordan, Chancellor of Limerick, who did
not obtain restitution of the temporalities till 25th
September, 1431. Jordan was still Bishop of Cork
and Cloyne on 27th December, 1464, being then
upwards of eighty years of age; and in the pre-
ceding year there were very extraordinary and dis-
creditable attempts made to deprive him, on the
grounds of age and infirmities (which are related
in Harris's Ware, p. 562, and Brady's Records of
Cork, Cloyne, and Ross, iii. 43). A forged resigna-
tion of his sees by Jordan being taken to Eome,
Pope Pius II. nominated Geraldus de Geraldinis,
a canon of Cloyne, and formerly a domestic chap-
lain of the bishop, to the united bishoprics on 31st
January, 1463; but the aged prelate applied to
both King and Pope for justice, which resulted in
his restoration and peaceable possession of his
rights' until his death, which must have occurred
in 1465. The Papal commission of inquiry was
dated 14th April, 1463, and yet Gerald Fitzgerald
subsequently succeeded to these sees after the
death of Bishop Jordan ; and William Eoche, Arch-
deacon of Cloyne, who had been accomplice of
Gerald in the above fraudulent proceedings, suc-
ceeded the latter in 1479! It appears, however,
that Eoche and Gerald, who had both been under
excommunication for their base conduct in 1463,
afterwards quarrelled; for Pope Paul II. issued a
commission to the Archbishop of Cashel, on 10th
December, 1470, to protect Gerald, Bishop of Cork
and Cloyne, against the annoyances given by
William Eoche, claiming the sees on the ground of
his having been coadjutor to Jordan, and to declare
him suspended and interdicted from the adminis-
tration of the diocese (Theiner, passim). Finally,
Eoche resigned in 1490, but was living in 1496,
when, under the designation of " Bishop of Cork,"
he received a general pardon for being concerned
in the rebellion of Perkin Warbeck, supposed to
have been Eichard, Duke of York. The following
entry in Brady is from the Cole MSS. in the
British Museum (5,858, PI. ccxxxiii. F. p. 285) : —
" In the Prolegomena of the Batavia Sacra, p. 15,
Johannes Corcagiensis Episcopus, Eudolphi Dei-
pholdii, Episcopi Trajectensis, Vicarius Generalis
circa annum 1449." Deepholt was Bishop of
Utrecht 1433-1455, and his Vicar-General John
was, apparently, Paston, or Wortes, above-men-
tioned, who evidently never obtained possession of
the bishopric of Cork, though consecrated to it,
and may have spent the remainder of his life
abroad; but who were the "two other persons pro-
vided to the same bishopric" of Cork in 1426,
when it was actually not vacant, as shown already ?
The succession of Irish prelates appears to havo
been conducted in a very peculiar manner at that
period, when two such ecclesiastics as Fitzgerald
and Eoche, both excommunicated forgers and
suspended priests, could obtain possession of bishop-
rics, and receive both Papal and royal confirmation.
They were evidently "mere Irish"! A. S. A.
Richmond.
titutrtatf.
[We must request correspondents desiring information
on family matters of only private interest, to affix their
names and addresses to their queries, in order that the
answers may be addressed to them direct.]
A CURIOUS EELIC OF OLD CALCUTTA. — Within
the last few days, a tombstone has been disinterred
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in the old settlement graveyard (St. John's) in
Calcutta, bearing this inscription : —
" Here lies the Body of Joseph Townsend
Pilot of the Ganges
Skilfull and Industrious
A kind father and usefull friend who
departed this life the 26th June 1738.
Aged 86 years.
" I 've slipped my cable, messmates, I 'm dropping down
with tide,
I have my sailing orders, while ye at anchor ride ;
And never on fair June morning, have I put out to sea
With clearer conscience, or better hope, or heart more
light and free.
An Ashburnham ! A Fairfax ! hark how the Corslets
ring !
Why are the Blacksmiths out to-day, beating those men
at the spring 1
Ho Willie, Rob, and Cuddie ! bring out your boats
amain,
There 's a great red pool to swim them o'er yonder in
Deadman's Lane.
Nay, do not cry, sweet Katie ; only a month afloat,
And then the ring and the Parson at Fairlight-Church,
my doat.
The flower-strewn path — the Press-gang ! No, I shall
never see
Her little grave where the daisies wave in the breeze
on Fairlight Lee.
Shoulder to shoulder, Joe, my boy, into the crowd like
a wedge ;
Out with your hangers, messmates, but do not strike
with the edge.
Cries Charnock, ' Scatter the faggots ! Double that
Brahmin in two !
The tall pale widow is mine, Joe; the little brown
girl 's for you.'
Young Joe (you 're nearly sixty), why is your hide so
dark?
Katie was fair with soft blue eyes, who blackened
yours?
Why hark !
The morning gun ! Ho, steady. The arquebuse to
me;
I 've sounded the Dutch High Admiral's heart us my
lead hath sounded the sea.
Sounding, sounding the Ganges, floating down with the
tide,
Moor me close by Charnock, next to my nut-brown
Bride.
My blessing to Katie at Fairlight. Holwell, my thanks
to you.
Steady ! we steer for Heaven through scud drifts cold
and blue."
Can any of your readers explain the affair
alluded to in the second verse of the above
epitaph ? The pilot to whom the monument was
erected was buried not far from Job Charnock, the
celebrated man whose influence did so much for
the English in their early days in the East. It
seems that the old pilot must have shared in some
fight before he was seized by the press-gang, and
carried off never again to meet his Katie. No
doubt the fourth verse refers to the rescue of two
women from the funeral pile. H.
WILLIAM TYRREL, 1462. — Stow, edit. 1631,
p. 416, states that William Tyrrel was arrested
and executed in 1462 ; Holinshed, edit. 1586,
p. 665, states that William Tyrrel was executed at
the same time as John, Earl of Oxford, and Au-
bray, his son ; but Hall only notices the execution
of Oxford and his son. Habington, in his Life of
Edward IV., states that they were executed for
treason, and names the same parties as Holinshed.
Warkworth's Chronicle, p. 16, says that Sir Wil-
liam Tyrrel, Knt., was killed with the Earl of
Warwick at the battle of Barnet, April 14, 1471 ;
Stow, p. 423, the same ; but Hall and Holinshed do
not notice him. Was either of these the father
of Sir James Tyrrel, the reputed assassin of Ed-
ward V. and his brother the Duke of York, and
if so, which one ? MARTIN H. STAFFORD.
320, West 29th Street, New York.
BlSHOP (?) SCORY AND THE EARL OF ESSEX. —
In that rare work, called The Polititians Cathe-
chisme, written by N. N. (Peter Talbot, appointed
Papal Archbishop of Dublin in 1669), and printed
at Antwerp in 1658, there is, at page 189, the
following sentence : —
" As you may read of Scory the Minister, who betrayed
the Earle of Essex in Queene Elizabeth's time."
By Scory the Minister, it would appear that
he means John Scory, Bishop ofJRochester, and
afterwards of Hereford, one of the'consecrators of
Archbishop Parker, and to whom, and to the now-
exploded fable of the Nag's Head consecration,
Talbot repeatedly alludes in other parts of this
work, asserting that " he (Scory) was never ordained
Bishop." But Bishop Scory died in 1585, fifteen
years before the fall of Essex, which we may sup-
pose alluded to by the word " betrayed." What,
therefore, is the meaning of this sentence ? Is it,
like the Nag's Head fable, one of the inaccuracies,
not to say inventions, of this very unscrupulous
writer, Peter Talbot, whose work, The Polititians
Cathechisme, is generally, but inaccurately, ascribed
to Nicholas French 1 If it is otherwise, and the
name of Scory is really connected with that of
Essex, I should be glad to be better informed.
Ev. PH. SHIRLEY.
PRINCES OF THE BLOOD ROYAL. — Blackstone
has the following passage : —
" The younger sons and daughters of the King, and
other branches of the royal family, who are not in the
immediate line of succession, were therefore little farther
regarded by the antient law than to give them to a
certain degree precedence before all peers and public
officers, as well ecclesiastical as temporal. This is done
by the statute 31 Hen. VIII. c. 10, which enacts that no
person, except the King's children, shall presume to sit
or have a place at the side of the cloth of estate in the
parliament chamber; and that certain great officers
therein named shall have precedence above all dukes,
except only such as shall happen to be the King's son,
brother,^ uncle, nephew — which Sir Edward Coke explains
to signify grandson or nepos — or brother's or sister's son.
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Therefore after these degrees are past, peers or others of
the blood royal are entitled to no place or precedence,
except what belongs to them by their personal rank or
dignity."
Now., if this be a correct statement of the law,
how comes it that at the present time the Duke of
Cambridge takes precedence immediately before
the Archbishop of Canterbury and enjoys the style
of " His Royal Highness " 1 Is it by letters patent
or by special Act 1 If by patent, how can such
patent over-ride the express provisions of an Act
of Parliament 1 I may mention that I cite from
Mr. Serjeant Stephen's arrangement of the Com-
mentaries, sixth edition, vol. ii. p. 483.
MIDDLE TEMPLAR.
Bradford, Yorkshire.
AUTHORS WANTED. —
" High and Low, watchwords of party,
On all tongues are rife,
As if a Church, though sprang from Heaven,
Owed to opposites and extremes its life."
-II. A.
" So man was given the upward look
That lifts the soul to Heaven."
[The idea may evidently be traced in the well-known
passage in Ovid's Metamorphoses — " Os homini sublime
dedit," &c.]
" From strength and not from fear, 0 man, is given
The upwa^sense that lifts the soul to Heaven."
^
AN APPULUS ANCEPS.
" Le temps porte toute chose sur ses ailes,
Porte les printemps et les hirondelles,
Et vous qui m'avez tant aime,
Et moi qui vous ai tant pleure.'*
H. K. GODDARD.
" Surely, this is the birthday of no grief,
That dawns so pleasantly along the skies."
FREDK. EULE.
" Fainter her slow step falls from day to day,
Death's hand is heavy on her darkening brow," &c.
C. S. JERRAM.
" To live is to change, to be perfect is to have changec
often."
HARRY SANDARS.
Oxford.
" When Death, the mighty Conqueror, came,
And called the tired warrior home."
JAYTEE.
" Kissing your white hand, Mistress, I take leave."
" There 's somewhat in this world amiss,
Must be unriddled by and by."
" What Hearen wills can never be withstood."
" After Life's little day comes Death's long night."
J. C - C.
"Le Proces des Trois Rois, Louis XVI. de France
Bourbon; Charles III. d'Espagne, Bourbon; et Georg
III. d'Hanovre, Fabriquant de Boutons. Plaide ai
Tribunal des Puissances Europeennes. Par Appendix
L Appel au Pape. Traduit de 1'Anglois. Londres, 1781 '
Who was the author of the satire (octavo o
144 pages) bearing the above title ? OUTIS.
Risely, Beds.
"AULD WIFE HAKE." — Perhaps some corre-
pondent will explain the meaning of a gathering
earing this title, and what is its representative
haracter ? A handbill announcing it has been
ent to me as a curiosity, so I am curious to have
t made clear. J. G.
" THE LIGHT HOUSE," OR " THE BEACON."—
an any one furnish me with the words of this
song of Thomas Moore, commencing —
" The scene was beautiful far to my view " ?
It is not in the fullest modern editions, which
lave other pieces not so good. A small volume
)ublished in Philadelphia in 1822, with a Preface
)y Mr. Moore, has it, I think, but the volume is
not at present procurable. T. M.
HEREDITARY KNIGHTS OF THE ORDER OF ST.
JOHN OF JERUSALEM. — Where can information re-
arding "hereditary" knights of the Order be
'ound? The following appeared in the Globe of
the 17th May, 1845 :— " Died the Viscount
Edmund de la Gueriviere, Hereditary Knight of
the Most Noble Order of Malta," &c. D s.
India.
" TH' BERRIN'S GONE BY, AND T' CHILD'S CALLED
ANTHONY." — Can any one state the origin of this
singular Lancashire proverb, commonly quoted
when a person arrives too late for the occasion?
It would seem to have a scrap of biography
wrapped up in it. Was it Anthony's mother who
was buried, and did the funeral and the christening
occur together ? HERMENTRUDE.
THE CROWNS WORN BY THE KINGS OF ENG-
LAND.— Where may be found a description of these
from William I. to George III.? H. T. E.
PARIS PRISONS. — Whereabouts in Paris were
the following prisons and maisons d'arret, used in
the first French Revolution, situated :— La Mairie,
Le Plessis, Sainte Pelagie, Les Madelonnettes, and
Les Cannes ? Also, was the " Maison Lazare " the
same as the present Prison de Saint Lazare in the
Faubourg Saint Denis 1 JONATHAN BOUCHIER.
THE RIVER GARNOCK. — In the Gentleman's
Magazine for July, 1833, p. 74, is an account of the
bed of the river Garnock giving way, and the water
pouring into a mine beneath, until eventually " a
tremendously large space broke down, into which
the whole river descended, leaving its bed quite
dry for the space of a mile on each side of the
aperture, where it had previously been full six feet
deep." Where can I see a subsequent account of
this, and what was the ultimate effect on the river ?
R. T.
LEYDEN. — I shall be obliged to any of your
readers who will direct my attention to any works
in English literature which contain information
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concerning the history of this town and its famous
University. Diverse books on these matters, in
Latin, French, and Dutch, are known to me, and
I am anxious to see what my own countrymen have
had to say thereon. Surely some of the many
Englishmen and Scotchmen who were educated
there must have left something in print or manu-
script about their old University. K. P. D. E.
" IBHAR."— What is the meaning of " Ibhar"?
I believe it is a Hebrew word. It is engraved on
a ring. C. J. M.
" MARKET." — What place is so called in Old
Dutch 1 I have an old record of the seventeenth
•century, in which a Dutchman is styled Chief of
Plantations in Markey. Q.
BRADLEY ARMS. — To what English family of
this name do these arms belong : — " Arg., a chevron
gu. between three crosses formee fi tehee sa." Crest :
on a chapeau a dove with olive branch ?
C. S. K.
Eythan Lodge, Southgate, N.
THE EARL OF DERBY, SON TO THE DUKE or
LANCASTER. — He served in the French army under
.the Duke of Bourbon, at the Siege of Carthage,
1389. — De Mezeray's History of France, p. 412.
Who is the present representative of this ancient
title ; and if extinct, when did it become so ?
E.
E. F. JAMESON. — I want a few biographical
particulars of the author of several comedies per-
formed successfully on the London stage, viz. : —
A Touch at the Times, 1812, The Students of
Salamanca, Exit by Mistake, Nine Points of the
Law [1818], &c.
There was published in 1808 Antiquity, a farce,
in two acts, said to be written by a gentleman of
the Inner Temple. Was this anonymous piece also
l)y Mr. J. 1 A work giving an historical sketch of
Protestantism in Southern France was published
by a Mr. E. F. Jameson, in 1839. I should be
glad to know if the author of this book is the same
as the dramatist. E. INGLIS.
NAMES OF THE COMBATANTS AT PERTH
IN 1396.
(5th S. i. 364.)
DR. MACPHERSON'S suggestions towards the
solution of this much-disputed question appear
at first sight very plausible ; and for this reason,
and because I entirely dissent from some of the
views expressed in that gentleman's note, I think
it right to offer a few remarks upon them.
They appear to be founded mainly on the
wresting of a plain passage in an Act of 1392 to
suit DR. MACPHERSON'S view, combined with the
ascription to certain early writers of statements
they never really made. As I propose to publish
shortly in a separate form my own views on this
interesting subject, I will not now attempt to
occupy valuable space in re-opening the whole
question, but will confine myself to the considera-
tion of DR. MACPHERSON'S statements in detail.
1. From my acquaintance with those who have
given any attention to the matter, I cannot say
that I have found any such general acknow-
ledgment as DR. MACPHERSON mentions in his
opening sentence, that the cause of the fight was
the endeavour of Government to punish those who
had taken part in the Eaid of Angus. The idea is
quite new to me, and I am aware of no authority
which even hints it.
2. The " five earliest writers" referred to by
DR. MACPHERSON are, I presume, Wyntoun, Bowar.
(continuator of Fordun's History}, the compiler of
the Eegister of Moray, Major, and perhaps Boece.
Of the four whose names are here given, the first
two only were alive in the beginning of the fif-
teenth century, and of these, Bowar must have
been very young in 1396. The other two did not
flourish till more than one hundred years later.
None of them speak of the combatant clans as
being parentelce, if by parentelce is meant " closely
allied races"; and, indeed, Wyntoun speaks of
them as two kins — " twa kynnis." The only autho-
rity for their being parentelce is the Eegister of
Moray ; but it is questionable whether the state-
ment in' this Eegister concerning the fight is really
worth anything, for Sir J. Graham Dalyell, whose
dictum in such a matter is entitled to the highest
respect, says that the portion of the Eegister in
which the passage occurs is an interpolation of a
later date (Brief Analysis of Ancient Becords of
Bishopric of Moray, pp. 26-30, Edin., 1826).
After all, is alliance by blood between the two
clans really indicated by the word parentelce ?
3. In stating that the five earliest writers agree
that one clan was Clan Quhewil and the other a
clan whose leader was named Scha, DR. MAC-
PHERSON to some extent begs the question. As I
have just suggested, Wyntoun, and, in a less
degree, Bowar, are alone entitled to any real regard
as authorities. Of these two, Wyntoun not only
does not assign the leaders to the respective clans,
but does not even seem to know which had the
victory ; and it is quite possible, and in fact highly
Tobable, that Bowar was mistaken in assigning
Icha to Clan Kay, as he must have been very
young in 1396, and did not write till long after-
wards.
4. That the "official list" (i.e. in the Act of
1392) of those engaged in the Eaid of Angus
should make no mention of an " opposing race,"
can perhaps scarcely be matter for surprise ; for in
the Eaid, so far as is known of it, there was no
question of any opposing race other than the
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gentlemen of Angus, who naturally opposed the
incursion of the lawless Highlanders into their
lands. Thus the reading of the words in the Act
suggested by DR. MACPHERSON, as to Slurach or
Sheach and his brothers being one set of people,
and Clan Quhewil another, seems quite unnecessary
and uncalled for,* and in this case the official list
can scarcely be said to " confirm the names assigned
to the combatants by early historians."
5. No one, I imagine, will refuse to admit that
the two clans were Clans Ha and Quhewil, for
these are the very names given by Wyntoun ; but
that Clan Ha can be Clan Sha, or Shaw, as I
presume DR. MACPHERSON implies, is not to be
admitted so readily. In the first place, the sounds
Ha and Sha in Gaelic could not, from the nature
of the language, represent the same word. The
sound Ha would represent the word She or the, and
the sound Sha would represent the word Seth or Se.
So that if one of the clans had been Clan Shaw
(Gaelic Seth or Seach), its name could not possibly
have been sounded as Ha. In the second place, it
is a fact frequently mentioned by writers of a
few centuries ago, and admitted by the Shaws
themselves, that the Clan Shaw had no existence
until after the battle at Perth ; that, in fact, the
leader of the victorious party was the founder of
the clan. It is further apparent from numerous
charters and other deeds that the descendants of
this leader did not even use the name Shaw until
after the time of his grandson.
6. DR. MACPHERSON says that " Hay and Kay
are evidently mistakes of transcribers." As, how-
ever, Hay is the same as Ha, which is used by
Wyntoun (Clachiny-ha), it can scarcely be called a
mistake ; and the difficulty with regard to Kay, the
name given by Bowar, at once vanishes when it is
known and recollected that a common form of the
genitive of " mac " (a son), both as sounded and
written, is 'ic. Thus Clan Kay is no more than
Clan-'ic-Ay, or Clan-'ic-Ha, the children of the son
of Ay or Ha.
That the opposing clans were the Clan Chattan
and the clan afterwards known as the Clan
Cameron is clear from the old family histories of
both clans; and I shall endeavour, in my forth-
coming book, to show that the names given by the
chroniclers are easily assignable to these clans.
The only remaining matter I shall notice is of
perhaps little importance, but it deserves a few
words. DR. MACPHERSON speaks of the fight as
on the Inches at Perth. Those who know Perth
must be aware that the Inches are at some distance
from each other, being on different sides of the
town. The fight took place on the North Inch —
" apud north-insulam," as Bowar has it. Wyntoun
* Perhaps DR. MACPHERSON did not observe the
dividing marks in the Act between the various names anc
sets of people. No such mark occurs in the passage
"Slurach et fratres ejus et omnes Clan QuhewiL"
ixes the locality in the same place, " besyde the
Freris," i.e., beside the Black Friars' monastery,
;he gardens of which adjoined the North Inch.
The part of the town now standing on the site of
,hese gardens is still, like a well-known part of
London, known as Blackfriars.
ALEXANDER MACKINTOSH SHAW.
ENGLISH SURNAMES (5th S. i. 262, 330, 352,
391.)— A word or two about " Fawkes," or "Vaux.1'
In his first contribution MR. SALA said : —
" It is amazing to find MR. BARBSLEY treating ' Fawkes,'
or ' Vaux,' as a Christian name, and deriving it, together
with ' Foulkes,' ' Fakes,' ' Faulks,' &c., from the Norman
' Fulk,' or ' Foulques.' Were this derivation correct,
'Guy Fawkes' would have had two Christian names,
' Guido Foulques,' and would have had no surname at
all. Cowel helps us at once to the derivation, equally of
the aristocratic ' Vaux,' and the plebeian ' Fawkes ' and
' Foakes,' by presenting to us the Latin equivalent, ' de
Vallibus."'
Will MR. SALA permit me to keep him to this
statement ? Several assertions, or quasi-assertions,
are contained in it.
1. That "Foulques," being a Christian name,
could not become a surname. This position MR.
SALA readily gave up after my reply.
2. That "Fawkes" is not a corruption of"
" Foulkes," or " Foulques." I replied by furnish-
ing the following string of entries from published
registers (I need not name the records again): —
" ' Fowlke Grevill,' ' Fawke de Coudrey,' ' Fauke
de Glamorgan,' 'Faukes de Breant,' 'Faukes le
Buteller,' ' Edmund Falkes,' and ' Nel Faukes.' "
This is (I claim) an incontestable proof that MR.
SALA'S assertion is untenable.
3. MR. SALA says in his reply, " This is evidently
a pet theory with him " (MR. BARDSLEY). I must
disclaim the word. I appeal to facts. MR. SALA
theorizes, inasmuch as he has only appealed to
Cowel (!), and, for the rest, has simply generalized.
I now turn to MR. SALA'S reply. He says —
" I am quite ready to grant that this ' Foulques '
branched off into 'Foulkes/ 'Foakes,' 'Fawson,'
'Faxon,' &c.. but not, I contend, into 'Vaux.'"
Here we see MR. SALA has given up " Fawkes."
His first notice said — " It is amazing to find
MR. BARDSLEY treating ' Fawkes,' or ' Vaux,' as a
Christian name, and deriving it from the Norman
' Fulk,' or ' Foulques.' " The omission of " Faukes "
in his reply is important. I can only surmise that
he has discovered this to be a second and still more
fatal error than the first. After my references to-
registers, I do not see how he can coine to any
other conclusion.
Lastly, MR. SALA asks, " How can MR. BARDS-
LEY explain his leap (the italics are mine) from
' Faukes ' to ' Vaux.' " MR. SALA, I presume, is-
too busy to look back upon either what he has
written or what I have written. Sufficient for me
to say that I have never said a word about " Vaux.'^
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It does not occur in my book, nor in my letter,
except when quoting from MR. SALA. It was
introduced by MR. SALA himself, and is his own
property. I will add, however, that in the majority
of cases I do not doubt " Vaux " to be a change
rung upon " Fawkes." The " leap " is a very
easy one — only a " stride," in fact. " Vidler
and " Fiddler" will show the initial letters to be
interchangeable. DR. CHARNOCK'S important notice
of " Vauxhall " and " Faukeshall " is very decisive.
Nevertheless, this is a matter imported by MR.
SALA, not by me. My share in the discussion is
simply to defend the statement contained in my
book, that " Fawkes " is a corruption of " Foulkes."
I trust this friendly controversy may lead to a
deeper interest in the subject of English nomen-
clature. CHARLES W. BARDSLEY.
Mr. M. A. Lower says, " The English family
(of Vaux) spring from Bertrand de Vaux, who was
living in 929, and was a favourite of Robert I.,
Duke of Normandy, the Conqueror's grandfather.
Harold de Vaux, Lord of Vaux, attended William
at the Conquest, and was accompanied by his
three sons, Hubert, Ranulph, and Robert." Ac-
cording to Burke, " Harold de Vaux in Normandy
having, for religious purposes, conferred his
seignory upon the abbey of the Holy Trinity at
Caen, came into England accompanied by his
three sons — 1. Hubert, Lord of Gillesland, by
grant of Ranulph de Meschines ; 2. Ranulph,
Lord of Tryermayne ; 3. Robert." The Norman
origin of the family seems to be confirmed by the
Annales Monastici. There are several places in
Normandy named Vaux ; and Kelham (Norm.
Diet.} has vaulx = vallies. Roquefort gives
" vaulz, vaux." He also writes the name, valle,
vallibus, vans, loallibus, wawz, waus. The name
Coote, referred to by MR. SALA, may be the same
as Coode, Code, Coat, from the Cornish coit, coid,
Welsh coed, a wood ; or it may be i. q. Coots,
Cutts, Coutts, from Cuthbert.
R. S. CHARNOCK.
Gray's Inn.
SPELLING REFORMS (5th S. i. 421.) — I fear the
REV. DR. BREWER'S proposals will fare no better than
those of others. His remarks will probably be re-
ceived with anything but respect, as he may judge for
himself by turning to the remarks on the " Queen's
English," only four pages further on (5th S. i. 425),
where the well-meant and really well-considered
suggestions of Hare are held up to ridicule, and
condemned off-hand as affectations. Perhaps few
writers have made better suggestions than Hare,
and yet he seems to have received very little for
his pains. The truth may as well be owned to at
once, that our spelling is merely conventional, and
the written word is a mere symbol, frequently
giving no particular clue to the sound of it, and
only to be connected with the sound by those who
have been educated to that end. This being so,
we may just as well acquiesce in the stereotyped
forms, with all their vagaries. I do not consider
it at all a mystery that the forms exceed, succeed,
proceed, are spelt differently from other forms in
English that are derived from the Latin cedere.
They are words of older adoption and of com-
moner use, and have, therefore, conformed to an
English spelling (as seen in reed, seed, deed) instead
of keeping strictly to the Latin form. So with
most other words ; their spellings have a history
and a meaning, and the irregularities often point
out either (1) differences of date, or (2) whether
the words are common or uncommon.
Were any alteration made, I would rather see
the final e removed than allowed to remain ; I
should prefer removable and removal to removeable
and rcmoveal, the latter of which is against all
analogy. And I would rather see every derivative
of cedere made to end in -ceed, which would bring
in the forms inter ceed, preceed, &c., all reasonably
English forms, instead of half- Latin forms like in-
tercede. And this I would prefer, as part of a
great principle, viz., for the sake of avoiding the
final e. The use of final e for the sake of marking a
long vowel came about easily and naturally enough,
but it is, nevertheless, the stupidest expedient in
spelling ever entertained by rational beings.
If DR. BREWER can do any good, it will be well ;
but all experience shows that no spelling reform
has a chance, unless it shall be one of a complete
character, sticking at nothing.
WALTER W. SKEAT.
1, Cintra Terrace, Cambridge.
" EVERY MAN is THE ARCHITECT," &c. (4th S.
xii. 514.) — MR. TEW draws our attention to this
proverb, ascribed by Sallust (De Eepubl. Ordin.)
to Appius Claudius Caacus, the Censor ; but he is
mistaken in the date, B.C. 450, when he says that
Appius lived. He will find that he was Censor
B.C. 312, with C. Plautius, without having been
consul previously (Liv. ix. 29). In 307 he was
elected consul, after resigning the censorship (Liv.
ix. 42). The idea must have been floating about
in the minds of that age, as we find not long after-
wards Plautus (B.C. 254-184) asserting that the
wise man is the maker of his own fortune, and,
unless he be a bungling workman, little can befall
him which he would wish to change (Trinum, ii.
2, 84):-
" Nam sapiens quidem pol ipse fingit fortunam sibi ;
Eo ne multa quse nevolt eveniunt, nisi fictor malus siet."
I have long been in search of a passage in Greek
writers parallel to this proverb. Can any one
assist me ? The adoption of the proverb by Shak-
speare (Julius Cfesar, Act i. sc. 2) will be recol-
lected : —
" Men at some time are masters of their fates ;
The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars,
But in ourselves, that we are underlings."
472
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5th 8. 1. JPNE 13, 74.
Wilhelm von Humboldt, in one of his letters
(i. 49), thus philosophizes on the proverb : —
"Es 1st erne sprichtwb'rtliche Redensart, dass jeder
sich das seinige schafft, undmanpflegt das so zunehmen,
dass er es sich durch Vernunft oder Unvernunft gut oder
schlecht bereitet. Man kann es aber auch so verstehen,
dass, wie er es aus den Handen den Vorsehung empfangt,
er sich so hineinpasst, dass es ihm doch wolil darin wird,
wie viel Mangel es darbieten moge."
" It is a proverbial expression that every man is
the maker of his own fortune, and we usually regard
it as implying that every man, by his folly or
wisdom, prepares good or evil for himself. But we
may view it in another light, namely, that we may
so accommodate ourselves to the dispensations of
Providence as to be happy in our lot, whatever
may be its privations."
In Cervantes (Don Quixote, i. 4) we find the idea
in a slightly different form. He says, " Quanto
mas que cada uno es hijo de sus obras." "The
rather since every man is the son of his own
works."
Schiller, in Wallenstein's Death (iv. 8, 77) ex-
pands the idea very beautifully: —
" Bin jeder gibt den Werth sich selbst. Wie hoch ich
Mich selbst anschlagen will, Das steht bei mir.
So hoch gestellt ist Keiner auf der Erde,
Dass ich mich selber neben ihm verachte.
Den Menschen macht sein Wille gross und klein."
" We all do stamp our value on ourselves ;
The price we challenge for ourselves is given us.
There does not live on earth the man so station'd,
That I despise myself compared with him.
Man is made great or little by his own will."
iS. T. Coleridge.
That man is the architect of his own miserable
fate, when it is so, may be learned from the lessons
of the Holy Scriptures, and this too from the
moment when our first parents ate the forbidden
fruit. Metastasio (Morte d'Abele, ii.) thus poetizes
on the idea: —
" Dall' istanta del fallo primiero
S'alimenta nel nostro pensiero
La cagion, che infelici ne fa.
Di se stessa tiranna la mente
Agli affanni materia ritrova,
Or gelosa d'un ben ch'e presente ;
Or presaga d'un mal che non ha."
" From the first moment of the Fall, the source
of all our pain is found in our bosom ; the mind,
the tyrant of itself, supplies food to every grief ;
now fears to lose a present good, now anticipates
some evil that may never come."
C. T. KAMAGE.
PROPERTIES OF FOUNTAINS (5th S. i. 44.)—
Brydone, in his Tour in Sicily, mentions many
fountains that throw up oil and pitch, and one
near Naso is celebrated for dyeing everything
black that is put into it, though the water appears
remarkably pure and transparent. Many wells or
fountains in Ireland, termed holy, are supposed to
have healing powers, curing sore eyes, rheumatics,
skin diseases, and barrenness in woman. Tober-
bunny, or the well of milk, in the co. Dublin, is
particularly celebrated for the virtue of its waters ;
and the old St. John's Well near Kilmainham, was
formerly supposed to have healing and fecundating
powers, probably from the filtrature of its waters
through the decayed bones of the adjoining old
cemetery, "Bully's Acre." Many of the old foun-
tains, described as being used for vinegar, were
probably flowing from a soil impregnated with
sulphuric acid, and those described as staining
black or brown contained salts of iron, while
those impregnated with chlorine or lime might
bleach or make white, those with copper, green, &c.
We read of a well in Bohemia that the people use
to drink in the morning instead of burnt wine ; and
one in Paphlagonia that " maketh men drunk
when they drink of it." It is to this fountain that
Ovid alludes : —
" Quern quicunque parum moderate gutture traxit,
Haud aliter titubat, quam si mera vina bibisset."
It is, however, a special mercy that fountains
possessing intoxicating qualities are not more
numerous, or the Society of Good Templars would
be sorely tested. K. D. G. H.
THE AMERICAN CIVIL WAR (4th S. xii 368 ;
5th S. i. 74, 157.)— To the uninformed Pollard's
writings may be " more readable " than Stephens's
History, but are hardly to be recommended, on
that account solely, to those wishing to consult a
representative work written from the Southern
point of view. Whatever other merit may be
claimed for them, in the Southern States Pollard's
books are not regarded as possessing an historical
value. That they abound in gross errors and
misrepresentations has been amply demonstrated
by Generals Beauregard (Southern Magazine,
January and February, 1872) and D. H. Hill (The
Land We Love, February and July, 1868;. The
bitter hostility towards the Confederate Adminis-
tration and certain of the Southern leaders, which
Pollard exhibits, has not been thought likely to
qualify him for writing a History of the " Lost
Cause "; and his numerous errors upon points of
fact justify the estimate which has been generally
placed upon his writings by the Southern people.
It may be added that the writer in question has
practically almost ignored the existence of the
great struggle outside of the operations of the
Virginia armies. G. L. H.
Greenville, Ala.
NUMISMATIC (5th S. i. 386.) — N. H. R.'s
octagonal piece is not a coin, but a medal of
Louis XVI. NUMMUS.
"PENTECOST" AS A CHRISTIAN NAME (4th S.
i. 568; 5th S. i. 402.)— I am able to give a
remarkable example of the continued use of
"Pentecost" as a Christian name. Two years
5th S. I. JUNE 13, '74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
473
ago I was, in the prosecution of my researches for
my History of Trigg, staying for a short time at
that ancient, picturesque and interesting little
town, on the north coast of Cornwall, called
Botreaux Castle, vulgo Boscastle, once a borough,
but now without municipal privileges. Whilst
there I often remarked a fine, handsome, hale,
hearty old man, frequently with a heavy burden
on his back ; and upon inquiring his name, I was
told it was " Penty " (Pentecost) Symons, and that
he was over ninety years of age — I forget how
much, but at the time I fixed the date of his
baptism in the parish register. This, however, is
not all : I found that there were then living four
other Pentecost Symonses, who, for the purpose of
identification, were, with the old man, designated
" Old Penty," " Young Penty "—the son of the
old man, who was about seventy years of age, but
not so strong and hale a man as his father —
" Little Penty," " Shooty Penty "— so'distinguished
because he lived near a water " shoot," or " spout"
— and " Muly Penty," so called because he kept
mules. I cannot now say what relationship they
bore to each other, but they were all of the same
family, and descended from Pentecost, the son of
Pentecost Symons, who was baptized in the
adjoining parish of Lesnewith on 1st January,
1737. Pentecost Symons, the father, and Sarah
Martyn had been married at Lesnewith on 28th
February, 1730. When I go next into that
neighbourhood, I will make further inquiries re-
specting this family, and, if the result appears to
be of sufficient interest, will communicate it to
" N. & Q." JOHN MACLEAN.
Hammersmith.
In the Illustrated London News of May 30, in
the list of wills recently proved, occurs that of
Miss Pentecost Milner, late of No. 22, Hyde Park
Place, under 35,0001. Wilkie Collins, in Arma-
dale, uses Pentecost as a surname.
JOHN PICKFORD, M.A.
Newbourne Rectory, Woodbridge.
[As a surname, " Pentecost " is in the Royal Blue Book
(1867). Mr. Bardsley, in OUT English Surnames, says —
" A servant of King Henry III. was called by the simple
and only name of ' Pentecoster ' "; and he quotes " Pente-
cost de London," "Pentecost Servicus," and "John
Pentecost," from the Rotula Litterarum Clausarum in
the Tower, and from the Hundred Rolls.]
TEA (5th S. i. 405.)— Huet notices the introduc-
tion of tea in France, and describes its good effects
on himself: —
"Turn primum autem plantss hujus nomen atque usus
nosci cceperunt in Gallia, cum non magna ejus apud
mercatores suppeterat copia, eaque grandi pretio, ac
prope modum auro contra veniret. Nee mihi satis
cognita tune erat prseparendae ejus ratio Quocunque
tamen modo possem, ea juvare stomachum statui. Et
res quidem supra spem atque votum cessit tarn feliciter,
ut nevus mihi visus sit inditus esse stomachus, vegetus
atque yalens, nulli deinceps obnoxius cruditati. Hinc
tamen porro fuit apud me These existimatio ut nullum
pene abire passus sum diem ejus potu vacuum. TJnde et
illud percipiebam commodi quod salutares istae frondes
benignis suis vaporibus cerebum velut detergerent, et
propterea jure eas videbar scopas ingenii appellare.
Quamobrem grati animi mei monumentum hoc carmine
expressum extare volui."
The poem contains fifty lines, which are worth
reading, but I limit my extract to four which
describe the brewing: —
" Dum loquor ecce focis imponitur aessilis olla :
Apposite infusus icstuut igne latex ;
Prolinus injicitur contortis Thea capillis,
Explicat implexas fervida lympha comas.*'
Huetius, De Rebut ad eum Pertinentibus,
pp. 303-4. Amsterdam, 1718.
As the teapot is not mentioned, it seems that the
tea was put into the kettle and, I fear, boiled I
Huet does not say when he composed the poem,
but La Biographie Gencrale, xxv. 386, states that
he sent it to Graevius in 1687. As he did not die
till 1721, at the age of ninety-one, we may infer
that tea agreed with him. I think Waller's claim
to be the first eulogist of tea in verse is not
shaken.
Permit me to concur with them in prose. Long
ago an eminent physician said to me, " You are
young, and do not feel any bad effect from tea ;
but if you go on as you do now, in ten years you
will have laid the foundation of disease, which all
the doctors in the world cannot relieve." More
than forty years have passed, and the rate of my
tea-drinking has increased rather than diminished.
The foundation, if laid, must be very deep, as the
superstructure has not yet appeared, and I have
never, since I was a boy, had medical assistance.
H. B. C.
TJ. U. Club.
WELL-DRESSING AT TISSINGTON (5th S. i. 428.)
— The pretty custom of well-flowering occurs on
Holy Thursday or Ascension Day. At the close
of the last century the wells were decorated with
branches of trees, and garlands of tulips and other
flowers arranged in fanciful devices. The parish
priest and choir, after divine service, sang psalms
at the well. The custom was not confined to
Derbyshire, as it was followed at Brewood and
Bilbrook, co. Stafford (see Plot, p. 318), at Nant-
wich ; and, on St. Richard's day, at Droitwich. St.
Edmund's Well, near Oxford, and St. Laurence's,
at Peterborough, were visited on the patrons' days
by the country-folk, with dancing and music,
cakes and ale. Their water was supposed to have
curative properties. Flowers were regarded as
emblems of the gifts of the Holy Spirit, and were
showered down on Pentecost in churches. Again,
in the old mosaics at Rome and Ravenna paradise
springs round the feet of the Saviour and His
saints, whilst S. Paulinus, Nepotian, and S.
Severin decorated the tombs of the departed with
flowers. Probably, in the diocese of Lichfield, the
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[5th S. I. JUNE 13, 74.
custom may have begun at the shrine, and been
continued at the well of St. Chad. Moreover, on
the Eogation days immediately before Holy Thurs-
day, young women wore garlands of the Gang-
flower in the procession. Wells in England were
superstitiously regarded (Anselm's Canons, 1102,
§26; Edgar's Canons, 960, §16; Cnute's Laws,
1018, § 5 ; Synod of Winton, 1308). These the
mediaeval Church turned into holy wells of pil-
grimage, like those of St. Keyne and Winifred.
" The Wells of rocky Cumberland
Have each a saint or patron,
Who holds an annual festival,
The joy of maid and matron.
And to this day, as erst they wont,
The youth and maids repair
To certain wells on certain days,
And hold a Revel there.
Of sugar sweet and liquorice,
With water from the spring,
They mix a pleasant beverage,
And May-day carols sing."
MACKENZIE E. C. WALCOTT.
" WELL-DRESSING. — The ancient custom of well-dress-
ing was observed at the village of Tissington, near Ash-
bourn, on Ascension Day. There are five wells at
Tissington, each of which was chastely decorated with
leaves and flowers, interwoven among which were such
devices as the Latin Cross, a crown, an interlaced tri-
angle, with Chevron and other ornamentation. Among
the inscriptions — mostly worked in red daisies — were
' A cloud received Him,' ' Carried up on high,' ' God
is love,' and ' Spring up, O well.' Special religious
services were held in the church, and also at the site of
the five wells, and the village was thronged with visitors
throughout the day."— The Times, May 19, 1874.
MARRIAGE PORTIONS TO FEMALE SERVANTS. —
Probably Kaine's bequest. See "N. & Q.," 3rd S. v.
475 ; ix. 348. HARDRIC MORPHYN.
" SCRUPE " (5th S. i. 348.)— In the contemporary
State Papers the spelling is nearly always Lescrop,
in one word. HERMENTRTJDE.
INSCRIPTION (5th S. i. 366.) — Peregrine Bertie
was not born in the church porch, as this inscrip-
tion and some sensational writers have stated, but
in his parents' hired house. See the Memoir of
his mother in Anderson's Ladies of the Reforma-
tion, where extracts are given from the Town
Records. HERMENTRUDE.
GRESMAN (5th S. i. 232.)— This word is pro-
bably connected with grassum or gersom, a term
still in use in the south of Scotland for a fine paid
by a tenant, or a vassal, on succession, and also for
a tenure by which, on the advance of a sum in aid
to a landlord, a tenant is allowed to hold his farm
for a term of years at a nominal rent in liquidation
thereof.
The same term is used in western India
[Guzerat] for the tenure of some of the hill chiefs,
who hold their villages as grassia lands, i. e., pay-
ing a small tribute or quit-rent. The term appears
to have an extensive application in the Scandi-
navian dialects. Vide Jamieson's Scot. Diet., sub
voce "Gersome." W. E.
" CONSERVATIVE " (5th S. i. 439.)— The political
or party signification of this word dates from a
period anterior to Jekyll's impromptu. An
article in the Quarterly Review of January, 1830?
contains this passage :— " We despise and abomi-
nate the details of partisan warfare ; but we now
are, as we always have been, decidedly and con-
scientiously attached to what is called the Tory,
and which might, with more propriety, be called
the Conservative party." Sir R. Peel subsequently
adopted the word in one of his political manifestoes,
written or spoken, — probably in his celebrated
speech at Merchant Taylors' Hall, — and then it
got into general use. Canning, however, had used
the word in the same sense at a still earlier period.
In a speech made at Liverpool in March, 1820, he
said, referring to the " middle class " : — " Of that
most important and conservative portion of society,
I repeat, I know not where I could look for a
better specimen than I now see before me." And
in another speech at Liverpool, in August, 1822,
he said : — " For, gentlemen, apart from the in-
terests of separate classes, we have all a common
interest in the conservation of that order of things
which is the security of the whole." C. Ross.
"J. M. K." (5th S. i. 428.)— This was John
Mitchell Kemble, son of Charles Kemble, and
brother of Mrs. Butler. At Cambridge, where
he was familiarly known as Jacky Kemble, he
was a brilliant public speaker, and of much general
ability and promise. It cannot be said that that
promise was fulfilled as his friends hoped, though
he attained to great distinction as an Anglo-Saxon
scholar. He died prematurely many years ago.
LYTTELTON.
" WIGGS" (5th S. i. 261.)— "Wigges," meaning
cakes, are so called in an extract you make from
Pepys's Diary. The ordinary " tea-cake " used to
be called a " wig " in Durham and Northumber-
land some forty years ago. I believe it is now-
extinct. I remember it well.
E. L. BLENKINSOPP.
BEAUTY IN DEATH (5th S. i. 285.) — May not
the following quotation from Paul and Virginia
be counted " poetic," and rival even the "poets" : —
" Her (Virginia's) features were not changed ; her
eyes were closed ; her countenance was still serene ; but
the pale violets of death were blended on her cheek with
the blush of virgin modesty."
Is not " the pale violets of death " an original
expression ? ELLIS RIGHT.
HERALDIC (5th S. i. 329.)— Three fish, naiant,
crowned, appear in the arms of the borough of
Wexford. NUMMUS.
5'" S. I. JUNE 13, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
475
NOBLE'S " HOUSE OF COMMONS " (5th S. i. 368.)
— I have tried to settle this confusion by referring
to Burke's Extinct Peerage and Baronetage, but
only made it worse than it was before ; for, while
his account under Barrington is exactly the same
as Noble's, under Masham, Lady Masham is said to
be Winifred in both works, no notice being taken
that she was widow of Sir James Altham ; and,
under Meux, Lady Meux is also said to be Wini-
fred ! I am, therefore, compelled to second
NOVAVILLA'S request for an explanation.
C. F. S. WARREN, M.A.
KICHARD BLECHYNDEN AND SAMUEL BLECHYN-
DEN (5th S. i. 368.) — This name is sometimes
written Bletchynden and Blechenden. There was
a Eichard Blechynden elected to St. John's,
Oxford, 1665 ; adm. M.A. 30th March, 1672-3 ;
B.D. 5th June, 1679 ; preached a sermon at the
consecration of Dr. Thomas White, Bp. of Peter-
borough, in the Archbishop's Chapel, Lambeth,
Oct. 25, 1685 ; Eector of Crick, Northamptonshire,
where he died and was buried. Another person of
the same name (probably son of the above Eichard)
was elected to St. John's, Oxford, 1685 ; adm.
B.C.L. in April, 1691, and D.C.L. April 13th,
1695. See History of Merchant Taylors' School,
Bowyer's Mis. Tracts, Le Neve's Fasti, and Wood's
Athen. Oxon. W. WINTERS.
Waltham Abbey.
THE "ARCHIDOXES" (5th S. i. 368.)— The writer
of this treatise is Paracelsus, the pseudonym of
Bombast Von Hohenheim, an author whom Sir
Thomas Browne frequently quotes. In my copy
of Paracelsus (Frankfort, 1605, 4to.) this treatise
forms part of the eleventh volume. The full title,
as there given, is Philippi Theophrasti Paracelsi,
Medici et Philosophi, Archidoxis Magicae. There
are seven books, which contain, especially in the
first four, a most singular 'array of engravings, re-
presenting charms and dies for the purpose of
effecting magical and sympathetic cures of all
imaginable disorders. My copy has two sets of
these engravings, varying in details from each
other. The British Museum possesses (E. 2268) a
copy of an English translation, with similar illus-
trations, under the title Paracelsus his Archidoxes,
Lond., 1661, 8vo. It is, perhaps, hardly correct to
call the name Paracelsus a pseudonym, as it seems
to be merely a barbarous Grseco-Latin equivalent
for Von Hohenheim. V.H. I.L.I. C.I. V.
u BUGABOO" (5th S. i. 372.)— This word will be
found in Halliwell : —
" Bugabo. A bugbear ; a gbost. West. According to
Coles, the term was formerly applied to ' an ugly wide-
mouthed picture,' carried about at the May games."
See Archaic Die. i. 216. AR. H.
HORACE WALPOLE'S CHARADE (5th S. i. 385.) —
It appears to me that the answer must be vapeur
(va peur), French for spleen, the vapours and hys-
terics. LINDIS.
CLIO EICKMAN (5th S. i. 372) was a real per-
sonage, and a friend of Tom Paine, of whom he
was the biographer. N.
BALLAD ON MARTINMAS DAY (5th S. i. 127, 194,
355.) — W. D. B. appeals to me to give him the
localities of Gurguntum and St. Leonard's Well.
The authorities in which I have found the ballad
give no note nor explanation on any part of it. If
you will be good enough to reprint here the two
following stanzas, I can show that the scene of the
ballad is Norwich : —
" Some do the city now frequent,
Where costly shows and merriment
Do wear the vapourish evening out
With interludes and revelling rout ;
Such as did pleasure England's Queen
When here her Royal Grace was seen.
Nell hath left her wool at home,
The Flanderkin hath stayed his loom ;
No beam doth swing nor wheel go round
Upon Gurguntum's walled ground,
Where now no anchorite doth dwell,
To rise and pray at Leonard's Well ;
Martin hath kicked at Balaam's Ass,
So merry be old Martinmas."
An ancient name of Norwich was Caer Guntum,
said to be derived from King Gurgunt, " sometime
Kyng of Englande, whiche buylded the castle and
layed the foundation of the citie." Carnden says
it was fortified with strong walls, with a great
many turrets, and eleven gates ; hence the epithet
" walled ground " in the ballad. Norwich has
been renowned for centuries for the excellence of
its woollen-stuff manufacture, first introduced by
the Flemings, and greatly increased by a fresh
immigration from Flanders in the reign of Queen
Elizabeth, owing to the cruelty of the Duke of
Alva. Thus we have here introduced Nell and
her spinning-wheel, with the Flanderkin and his
loom.
Hard by the city, passing out of the Bishop's
Gate, is a hill on which stood St. Leonard's Priery,
founded about the year 1100 by Herbert de
Losinga, the first bishop of Norwich. This was
reduced to ruins in Kett's Eebellion, and, at the
dissolution, the site was given to Thomas, Duke of
Norfolk, whose son, the Earl of Surrey, built upon
it a sumptuous house called Surrey House. Be-
tween the priory and the city, Blomefield tells us
there was " a spring of pleasant water, formerly
much resorted to, which occasioned Sir John
Pettus, in 1611, to build a handsome free-stone
conduit over it." This was most probably the St.
Leonard's Well referred to in the ballad.
In the former verse allusion is made to the visit
of the Queen. In August, 1578, Elizabeth spent
a whole week in Norwich, arriving on Saturday,
the 16th, and leaving on Friday, the 22nd ; dur-
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ing which time she was entertained with the
speeches, masques, and revelry, in which she so
much delighted. And it is curious that, upon the
occasion of her entry, a " bachelor," fantastically
attired to assume the character of King Gurgunt,
was instructed to welcome the Queen in a poetical
speech, in which he thus describes himself : —
" King Gurgunt I am hight, King Belin's eldest son,
Whose Sire, Dunwallo, first the British crown did
•wear."
Unfortunately, at that critical moment, a heavy
shower of rain began to fall, which caused Her
Majesty to hasten away, and so the speech was not
spoken : it may be read, however, in Blomefield's
Hist, of Norfolk, iii. 322, et seq. (ed. 1806) ; and
also in Nichols's Progresses of Queen Elizabeth,
ii. 138, et seq. The allusion in the line —
" Martin hath kicked at Balaam's Ass "
I cannot divine. Does it refer to some event in
the life of St. Martin, or in the " Martin Mar-
prelate " controversy 1 The authorship of the
ballad is still in the clouds. MR. BRITTEN sug-
gests that Dr. Forster may himself have written
and published it more suo ; but it was printed in
the Times Telescope ten years before it appeared
in Forster's Perennial Calendar. I am of opinion,
from internal evidence, that it was written not long
after the time of Queen Elizabeth.* E. V.
THOMAS FRYE (5th S. i. 269, 316, 419.)— The
subject of the engraved heads by this artist has
been so frequently discussed in the pages of
"N. & Q." (see 3rd S. i. 110, 172 ; xii. 524 ; 4th
S. i. 78, 184, 254, 376 ; x. 206, 280) that I doubt
whether further information, such as is desired,
will be forthcoming. Concerning five of the seven
portraits mentioned by MR. FREDERICK OVERTON,
there never was or could be any doubt, for the
simple reason that the respective name appears in
each case on the engraving.
Of the other two — namely, Mrs. Frye and Miss
Pond — it was long since pointed out (3rd S. i. 172),
on the authority of Bryan (Dictionary of Painters
and Engravers}, that portraits of them were among
the mezzotint works of the artist : the difficulty
was, and is, to identify them.
There is some doubt as to the number of en-
gravings that were published. Of the large heads,
I believe there were eighteen, exclusive of those of
the King and Queen, of which, I think, three sizes
were issued. Leveridge is not of this series, nor
do I consider a smaller head, said to be a portrait
of the Queen of Denmark, to be so.
It is indicative of the little interest that was
taken in these productions, that in several accounts
of Frye it is stated that only six of them were
engraved. Edwards says so in his Anecdotes of
* In the ballad as given in " N. & Q." the spelling has
been modernized.
Painters, and the statement is repeated in Chal-
mers's Biographical Dictionary (1814), with the
addition, that in 1760 proposals were issued for
twelve heads in the same manner ; but, we pre-
sume, his illness and subsequent death prevented
his completing more than six. This is clearly a
mistake, and rather confirms my conjecture that
the set consists of eighteen plates. I differ from
those who are of opinion that all these engravings
are portraits (except in the sense of being taken
from life), as, were they so, it is, I think, fair to
assume that they represented persons of note, and
I cannot reconcile this with the difficulty that un-
doubtedly exists in identifying them. I must
confess, however, that two of them being likenesses
of the celebrated Misses Gunning, as pointed out
in an interesting communication on the subject
from your correspondent J. W. H. (4th S. i. 78),
tends greatly to show that I may be mistaken.
The date of Frye's death given by MR. OVER-
TON (1862) is, of course, a misprint for a century
earlier. The correct date appeared in " N. & Q."
as recently as page 316 of the present volume.
CHARLES WYLIE.
"THAT BEATS AKEBO" (5th S. i. 148, 255, 317.)
— When I first appealed to the correspondents of
" N. & Q." as to the derivation of this, I suggested
a French origin. The person who used it was of
an Irish family, and I have since learned that the
expression " That beats " is frequent in Ireland,
N. himself giving an example of it. I shall,
therefore, now appeal to an Irish scholar for the
explanation. Every one knows that "abo" is
" ever." What is the first syllable ] L.
Oxford.
THE IRISH PEERAGE (5th S. i. 144, 218, 298.)
— I must confess that I did overlook the possibility
of which W. M. speaks. But it would not alter
what I wrote : it would simply make it necessary
to provide that on the merging of a peerage the
limitations of the patent should be examined to
ascertain whether or not it could emerge again ;
and then the right of the Crown in question would
open or not accordingly.
CHARLES F. S. WARREN, M.A.
SWALE FAMILY (5th S. i. 188, 253, 297.)— If
Kobert Swale, M.D., was born in the year 1635,
he could not have been the fourth son of the first
baronet, Sir Solomon Swale, of Swale, co. York
(so created by King Charles II., June 21, 1660),
as the second holder of the title, Sir Henry, his
son and heir, was only born in 1640; dying
" Jan. 19, 1683, cetat. 43," according to Courthope's
Synopsis of the Extinct Baronetage of England
(London, 1835), p. 192. A. S. A.
Richmond.
MORTIMER, OF WIGMORE (5th S. i. 188, 234,
358.)— If MR. STONE desires to learn the true
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
477
origin of the Mortimers, of Wigmore, he must not
expect to be instructed by Watson's History of
the Earls of Surrey, for those costly quartos abound
in errors long exploded, and were compiled for the
sole purpose of bolstering up a fictitious pedigree
for the Warrens of Poynton. The early history of
the Mortimers was for the first time critically
investigated in the fourth volume of Eyton's
Antiquities of Shropshire, where the connexion of
Ralph de Mortimer, of Domesday, with the first
William de Warren is accurately stated. They
were not brothers, but cousins. With all due
deference to your correspondent, there has not
been in England, since the reign of King John,
any family of Warren with any reasonable pre-
tension to legitimate male descent from the first
Earl of Surrey.
HERMENTRUDE is too accomplished a genealogist
not to have discovered by this time her mistake in
saying that " Queen Victoria was the heir general
of the Mortimers." The Queen is descended from
them, of course, through the House of York, but
HERMENTRUDE must know that Elizabeth of York
is now represented by the co-heirs of her two
daughters, Margaret of Scotland, and Mary,
Duchess of Suffolk, and that Her Majesty has not
the slightest pretension to be the heir, or the
co-heir, of her ancestress, Margaret Tudor.
TEWARS.
In 8 Hen. IV. Kadegundi Becket, Lady of
Mortimer. Who was she ? Qy. Wife of Roger,
Earl of March, and heir presumptive to the crown,
ob. 1398 ? In none of the pedigrees I have seen
can I find her. T. H.
SHIRLEY FAMILY (5th S. i. 248, 294.)— When I
said that the pedigree of the descendants of Dr.
Thomas Shirley had never been fully investigated,
I had not seen the second edition of Stemmata
Shirleiana, a work which, by the way, I think
every genealogist must greatly admire. I referred
to descendants, if any, of Thomas and Richard,
sons of the Royal physician, respecting one of
whom I once had a note, copied from some
authority (?) to the effect that he went to Jamaica ;
hence my query in connexion with the Sherdley
family. I shall endeavour to find this note, and
transmit it to your correspondent for what it may
be worth. The surname Shirley is found in Bar-
badoes, in the seventeenth century, and I cannot
help thinking that a search through the records of
the latter island would result in the discovery of
more than one of the name.
In the Sussex Archaeological Society's Journals,
many of the branches of Shirley of Preston, &c.,
have not been traced to their extinction, or repre-
sentation at the present day. But I by no means
impute this as a fault to the writer of those papers,
for I am sure that it would be impossible to carry
any genealogical investigation so far in every in-
stance. The Shirley family being one of the highest
distinction, even a stranger may take an interest
in suggesting subjects of inquiry with reference to
it. S.
CHEVALIERS OF THE GOLDEN SPUR (5th S. i.
249, 295.) — Is the Robson alluded to in the note
" Chevaliers, &c.," the compiler of an heraldical
work published at Sunderland 1 If so, he is no
great authority. Robson published by subscrip-
tion, and the prospectus stated that the sub-
scribers' arms would be inserted gratis. This
promise was carried out, and Mr. Robson found
arms for several of his subscribers who were not
of gentle blood, or anything approaching to it.
N.
The coat described by RHO appears to be that
of a Grand Master of the Order of St. John of
Jerusalem, whose members have their shields of
arms backed by the eight-pointed cross of the
order, whilst the crown denotes the sovereign
power claimed for it. I have recently been exa-
mining a curious seventeenth century MS., which
gives an account of many of the Grand Masters,
together with "tricks" of their armorial bearings.
All are surmounted by the crown.
W. J. BERNHARD SMITH.
Temple.
An account of this Order will be found in any
book devoted to the subject of orders of knight-
hood. The best original book on the Order which
has come into my hands is the Memorie Storiche
sull' Antichita, ed Eccellenza dell' Ordine Aureato,
ossia ddlo Sperone d'Oro, of the Cavaliere Luigi
Angeli, published at Bologna in 1826. The Order
is now reformed and merged into that of St. Syl-
vester. If RHO will communicate with me directly,
I may be able fully to answer his queries.
J. WOODWARD.
St. Mary's Parsonage, Montrose, N.B.
LEOPARDS IN HERALDRY (5th S. i. 386, 434.) —
In Scott's Border Minstrelsy, and in the tales of
Musseus, these are attributed to families descended
from fairies. SP.
NOTES ON BOOKS, &c.
WILLIAM HONE— AND HONE'S WORKS.
NINETT-FIVE years hare elapsed since William Hone was
born, in Bath, in the year 1779. There were then two
reigning monarchs, that is to say, Masters of the Cere-
monies, in the city of the springs — Major Brereton and
Mr. Dawson ; that there was another monarch, at St.
James's, was a matter of less consideration in the minds
of the " quality " at Bath.
William Hone did not belong to the " quality," and he
had to begin his arduous battle of life very early in
London as an attorney's clerk — a " copying " and not an
" articled " clerk. Hone chafed under the profitless
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[5th S. I. JUNE 13, 74.
work, and he took to selling books in a humble way ; he
grew humbler thereby, for he did not prosper. He
•valiantly challenged fortune in various other ways, but
he was beaten over and over again. In his despair, he
plunged to the lowest depths in order to pick up a pearl,
if there was one to be found there. He wrote for
small periodicals, and starved a large family on the
scanty proceeds. But, from small, the undaunted and
modest fellow pushed his way to more important journals,
and, in 1816, he published one of his own— The Reformist's
Register— in which he assailed the wildly good-natured
theories of Owen ; and he did not gain celebrity enough
to have his assault answered. Hone, however, had been
in training for it, and he soon after this achieved it.
His political squibs caught, delighted, and sometimes
terrified the public. His Political House that Jack
Built was so true, that all confessed the truth ; so witty,
that all laughed at its wit ; but it was so "audacious"
that steady-going old people thought that the end of
the world was come if even disreputable magnates were
to be pulled by the nose, and kicked into the midst of
the multitudinous public. The least that could ensue,
they thought, would be a halter for Hone. Nevertheless,
the Bath man lit his squibs and hurled them into the
mob, by whom they were taken up and flung from hand
to hand ; and woe unto him who attempted to put his
foot upon them. People who hated Hone and his
politics laughed till they were ashamed of their wicked-
ness, and then they bought more of his squibs, and
laughed and blushed and "d d the fellow," and
looked eagerly for his next issue. At last, Hone made
his great mistake : he went to the Book of Common
Prayer to find materials for his political squibs, and he
was at once prosecuted for blasphemy. No doubt he was
also persecuted for his wit, for the dexterity with which
he hit his mark, for the fearlessness with which he
attacked abuses so old that they seemed to be sacred.
Three separate juries acquitted him, and the triple
acquittals are said to have been the blows which killed
Lord Ellenborough. One of the jurymen on the last
trial afterwards declared that he was prepared to die, if
need be, rather than pronounce a man "guilty "who was
manifestly prosecuted, not for blasphemy or sedition, but
for exposing abuses which were eating into the very
heart of the nation. This juror was an eminent London
merchant, named Elwall. Hone conducted his own
defence so modestly as to secure respect; so pertina-
ciously, as to harass the very souls of adverse judges and
lawyers ; and with such irresistible argument (without
justifying the fact of his having parodied the Prayer
Book) that no argument on the part of the judge,
bitterly determined to crush him, if possible, had any
weight with the juries. Hone left the Court over-
whelmed with the toil of the fight he had maintained,
unskilled and against such fearful odds ; but he came out
of the struggle a new man also. He never more touched
the Prayer Book but with reverence. He never more
thought of the use he had made of it but with unfeigned
bitter regret. He turned to better things. After some
unsuccessful essays to make a livelihood, Hone, in 1826,
issued from his house on Ludgate Hill the first number
of his ever fresh Every-Day Book. The woodcuts,
especially those of the months, attracted general atten-
tion ; and, what was better, the new serial sold. George
Cruikshank and Charles Lamb contributed in their
especial ways to this success, and the healthy, instruc-
tive, amusing Every-Day Book was a delight in thousands
of homes. Christopher North praised its spirit-stirring
descriptions of old customs, delightful woodcuts of old
buildings, as well as many a fine secret learned among
the woods and fields and whispered by the " seasons "
difference. "He has deserved well," added North, " ol
.he naturalist, the antiquarian, and the poet, by his
Every-Day Book." Popular as the book was, the ex-
jense of producing it caused Hone to feel the pitiless
>ressure of the law against the honest and struggling
lebtor. Some of the editorial work was done, and done
well, in a debtor's prison — a prison which could not do
with him as it did with so many, prevent a man who
owed money from working in order to pay his debts. Sub-
sequently appeared, in numbers, The Table Book. To this
succeeded The Year Book, and with these three works the
name and fame of Hone are honourably and permanently
connected. "I am sorry," said Southey, "I had not
seen the Every-Day Book and Table Book before my
Colloquies were printed, that I might have given Hone a
;ood word there. I have not seen any miscellaneous
jooks that are so well worth having, brimful of curious
matters, and with an abundance of the very best wood-
cuts." Again Southey recommended these books to "all
interested in the preservation of our national and local
customs " ; and Lamb thus wrote of the first serial : —
Dan Phoebus loves your book ; trust me, friend Hone,
The title only errs, he bids me say ;
For while such art, wit, reading there are shown,
He swears 'tis not a work of every day ! "
Notwithstanding these testimonials, and the thoroughly
pure, wholesome, and instructive literary fare Hone pro-
vided for the public, he was more than once foiled in the
struggle. He had, however, friends ready to help a man
who was unwilling to be vanquished. Among them was
the late Mr. Tegg, who was also one of those heroic men
who out of successive adverse circumstances make-steps
to climb to fortune. In what way Lamb aided Hone all
the "Books" bear witness ; and there is nothing more
charming of Lamb's than his sketch (in the Every Day
Book) of " Captain" Starkey (including biographical details
of the writer and his sister), who " might have proved a
useful adjunct, if not an ornament to Society, if Fortune
had taken him into a very little fostering, but wanting
that, he became a Captain, — a by- word, — and lived and
died a broken bulrush ! "
Hone's other services to literature are chiefly Ancient
Mysteries Described and his edition of Strutt's Sports and
Pastimes. The services rendered to him by his friends
enabled him to cultivate literature still, and to keep (for
a time) a coffee-house and hotel in Gracechurch Street.
Lamb adds a joyous P.S. to one of his cheery notes to
Hone, in June, 1830, in the words, "Vivant Coffee,
Coffee-potque " ; and there are hospitable, not to say
rollicking, echoes in one of Lamb's invitations to Hone :
— -" I will only add that Enfield is still here with its ac-
customed shoulders of mutton, fine Geneva tipple, &c."
Occasionally Lamb good-humouredly teazed his friend
with his criticisms :—" Your almanack," Lamb writes,
" is funny ; it only disappointed me as being not ap
almanack The only information I received from
it is, that New Year's Day happened this year on the
1st of January ! I do not see the days even set down
on which I ought to go to church, the Dominical Letter,
—fie!"
The three admirable serials, with Lamb pleasantly
greeting us in all of them, have been re-published
recently by Mr. Deputy Tegg, whose father originally
published the Year Book. They are equally valuable as
books of reference, books for study, or books of amuse-
ment. They are fitting for keeping, and most appropriate
for giving to others, who, not having libraries, will find
here the essence and quintessence of a thousand
libraries. One of the contributors to the three " books "
is a well-esteemed correspondent of "X. &Q." — "JAMES
HENRY DIXON." In consequence of a note he addressed
to us, we put some queries to Mr. Tegg, the nature of
which may be seen in his prompt reply : —
5th S. I. JUNE 13, '74 ]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
479
"HONE'S WORKS.
" To the Editor of the Notes and Queries.
" Sir, — The present edition of the works of William
Hone, namely, The Every-Day, Table, and Year Books,
are printed from the stereotyped plates properly re-
paired. The only additions are to the Year Book, namely,
1 My Father's [Hone] Narrative, written by himself,'
and: Decker's Raven's Almanac, foretelling of a Plague,
famine, and Civill Warre, that shall happen this present
Year, 1609, in quarto, Hack letter.' I took some pains to
inquire if any of the writers were alive who had contri-
buted to either of the four volumes, but could learn
nothing. I did not, in justice to the memory of my old
friend, the editor and author, feel justified to disturb his
work by any new matter, with the exception of the two
I have named, both being edited by him. I should be
obliged by any of your numerous readers pointing out
if any errors occur in the work, that I may at once see
they are properly corrected.
" I am, Sir, yours, &c.,
" WILLIAM TEOG."
With good wishes for an edition of these " Books,"
which will be out of print, probably, long before Mr.
Tegg is called on to print another to celebrate Hone's " cen-
tenary," there only remains to be said that the wearied
athlete himself never lost his spirit. He laboured hard
during the week, was a regular attendant at Mr. Binney's
Weigh House Chapel, — had some share, it is said, in the
active duties of a Nonconformist minister, and held the
pen as sub-editor of the Patriot, when death overtook
him, at Tottenham, in 1842. The attendance at his
funeral of men distinguished in art and literature was a
proof of the respect felt for him outside the family
circle, where he had been deeply loved and was as deeply
mourned.
History of the English Revolution of 1688. By Charles
Duke Yonge. (King & Co.)
A GENERATION has gone by since Mr. Yonge commenced
a literary career, which in its course has brought him
continually increasing honour. This is natural; for,
with each successive work, Mr. Yonge has manifested
increase of power. The history of '88 should be his
most popular book. It relates the most momentous in-
cident in the chronicle of England, in the happiest and
most lucid way imaginable. Especially well has the
Regius Professor of Modern History at Belfast told the
exciting story of the Declaration of Indulgence (which,
in fact, ordered every man to dream of no indulgence but
such as he could find in obeying King James's absolute
will), and of its proximate and remote consequences. The
clergy generally declined to read it, and one of them,
Samuel, father of John Wesley, did more, he preached
against it, to this significant text : " Be it known unto
thee, 0 king, that we will not serve thy gods, nor
worship thy golden image which thou hast set up."
A Fragment of Mr. J. 0. Halliwell's " Illustrations of the
Life of Shakspeare." For Presents only.
ABOUT four years ago Mr. Halliwell (to whose courtesy
we owe a copy of the above) had the good luck to dis-
cover documents which showed the nature of Shak-
speare's connexion with the Globe and Blackfriars
theatres. These will be used in Mr. Halliwell's Illustra-
tions of Shakspeare's life. Meanwhile, that gentleman
publishes this fragment, and says : — " This step will, at
all events, relieve the solicitude of my friend Mr. Purni-
vall, who is in an alarming state of disquietude lest I
should be removed from the scene before the papers are
given to the world." The " fragment " illustrates trans-
actions between players and proprietors, and shows
when Shakspeare became one of the partners in the
proprietorship of the Globe, and when he joined the
Blackfriars. The petitioners to the Lord Chamberlain
say: — "The father of us, Cuthbert and Richard Bur-
bage, was the first builder of play houses, and was him-
self, in his younger years, a player."
The Greek Anthology. By Lord Neaves. (Blackwood &
Sons.)
LORD NEAVES, "one of the Senators of the College of
Justice in Scotland," has added a charming volume to
the series of "Ancient Classics for English Readers." He
has well classified the epigrams, and has prefixed an
Introduction which is the work of a scholar who loves
his work. We may not always agree with him, but one
cannot dissent from the judgment of so competent a
critic without hesitation. The translations of the
original lines are generally spirited, and Lord Neaves
has taken a justifiable course in giving modern adapta-
tions. Thus, the translation of a Greek epigram (anony-
mous) on a beautiful lady is one which Lortf Neaves
finds in an old magazine on a Cornish lady : —
" Now, the Graces are four, and the Veriuses two ;
And ten is the number of Muses ;
For a Muse, and a Grace, and a Venus are you,
My dear little Molly Trifusis."
THE magazines for June afford an opportunity for
making a few notes. Persons who judge of Edgar Poe
by Dr. Griswold's portrait of the poet as a debauched,
drunken profligate, should read Mr. Ingram's paper on
Poe in Temple Bar. — In the Cornhill, in an article en-
titled "Homer's Troy and Schliemann's," the writer
treats the alleged finding of Priam's treasure as an,
archaeological joke; and he gives solid reasons why
Schliemann could not have discovered ancient Troy at
Hissarlik ; among them, that "it has already, and long
ago, been discovered at Buonarbashi." Dr. Stark, in
his Nach den Oriechischen Orient, states that he visited
Schliemann at Hissarlik ; and, while he admires the ob-
jects which the excavator found there, is decidedly of
opinion that they were not found on the site of Homer's
Troy. Let us add that the original idea of fixing the
site of Troy at Buonarbashi was formed and proved by
M. Chevalier, long before Gell published, now seventy
years since, his Topography of Troy. Hawkins, Sib-
thorp, Dallaway, and other explorers, followed Chevalier
and preceded Gell. They were all for Buonarbashi as
the undoubted site of the city of Priam. — The opening
paper in Macmillan, by Mr. E. A. Freeman, takes re-
cently published works on the buildings of Rome for a
subject, which recommends itself to the majority of
readers of " N. & Q.," and of which some idea may be
conveyed in the concluding sentences : — " In the vast ex-
tent of the city enough is left for us to trace out all the
leading features of the various forms which were taken
by the early Christian buildings, and to connect them
with the buildings of the pagan city which form the
models out of which they grew by healthy and natural
development. The historical associations of these
buildings are surely not inferior to those of their pagan
predecessors. As marking a stage in the history of art,
we must look upon them as links in a chain, as the cen-
tral members which mark the great turning point in a
series. That series, as we have seen, begins with the
arch of the Great Sewer ; it goes on, obscured for awhile,
but never wholly broken, under the influence of a foreign
taste. Through the buildings of Rome, and Spalato,
and Ravenna, and Lucca, it leads us to the final perfec-
tion of round arched architecture, both in its lighter and
more graceful form, at Pisa, and in its more massive and
majestic variety at Caen, and Peterborough, and Ely,
and Durham." — In " A Talk about Brussels," in Tinsleya'
Magazine, we have a note on the Wandering Jew, namely,
that the last time he was seen was in Brussels, and, —
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[5th S. I. JUNE 13, 74.
" Jamais on n'a vu
Tin homme si barbu."
Again, the readers of " N. & Q." will learn with interest,
from " The Table- Talk of Sylvanus Urban, Gentleman,"
that our much esteemed correspondent, MR. EDMUND
LENTHALL SWIPTE, was a correspondent of the Gentle-
man's Magazine seventy-three years ago I—All the Year
Hound has been distinguishing itself lately by a series of
readable articles, " Legends and Traditions of the English
Counties." These are by Mr. Thornbury, and are in his
best manner. They will, without doubt, be published
in a collected form. We have only space to add, of the
last number of Old and New London, by the same
gentleman, that the interest of the subject is well sus-
tained, and that the letter-press is more profusely illus-
trated than ever.
" You KNOW WHO THE CRITICS ARE." — A well-read
correspondent, TENEOR, adds to the " links " required for
tracing this aphorism the following quotation :• — •
" Whate'er were his faults, they have taught him the
wit,
The blots of his neighbours the better to hit;
As oftentimes poets, whose writings were damh'd,
Have after for critics been notably famed.''
" The Modern Patriots : a proper new Ballad " ; published
in Read's Weekly Journal, Jan. 26, 1734. The allusion
in the last two lines is to Pope, with possibly a special
reference to his well-known lines quoted in "N. & Q.,"
Nov. 29, 1873, under "Miscellaneous."
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given for that purpose : —
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THE NAMES of the Nobility, Gentry, and others who contributed to
the Defence of this Country at the time of the Spanish Invasion in
1588. 4to. 1798.
Wanted by Edward Peacock, Bottesford Manor, Brigg.
POETICA STKOMATA, or a Collection of Sundry Pieces in Poetry, drawn
by the known and approved Hand of R. (J. Anno 164S.
Wanted by George U. Traherne, St. Hilary, Cowbridge.
to
MR. PEACOCK repeats the following query, which has
already appeared in " N. & Q.," see 2nd 8. xi. 452, and
4th S. v. 489 :— " Thomas Messingham.— The author of
Florilegiumlnsulce Sanctorum, seu Vilce et Acta Sanctorum
Hiberniw was a native of Leinster. Can any of your
readers tell me whether he was of English family 1 There
is a village called Messingham in Lincolnshire, and I
think his ancestors must have taken their name from it.1'
WILLIS NEVIN. — The flat grave-stone in Worcester
Cathedral, on which is the inscription " Miserrimus,"
relates to the Rev. T. Morris, " a Minor Canon " (says
Murray's Handbook) and Vicar of Claines, who refused
to take the oath of allegiance to William III., and lived
to the age of eighty-eight on the generosity of the affluent
Nonjurors. Died 1748.
A FOREIGNER. — M. Delepierre has written a work on
macaronic poetry, entitled Macaroneana A ndra ; overum
jNouveaux Melanges de Litterature Macaronique (Triibner
& Co.). This volume, together with the one published
by the author in 1852, forms the most complete collec-
tion of this peculiar form of poetry in existence.
DOUBLE-KNOCK.— Consult M. Arthur de Rothschild's
Histoire de la Poste aux Lettres, in which the author
ascribes the honour of having originated the postal
system to Artaxerxes I. M. de Rothschild brings down
the history of the " Post " to the days of the Commune.
WILLIAM BLOOD. — A biography of Capel Lofft, with
notices of his works, is given in Gorton's Biographical
Dictionary, and in the Gentleman's Magazine, vol. xciv.,
pt. ii., p. 184; indeed, consult any good modern Bio-
graphical Dictionary.
E. L. — "When born in tears," &c. The original
Arabic of these lines is given in Specimens of Arabian
Poetry, &c., by J. D. Carlyle, Professor of Arabic at
Cambridge. See " N. & Q.," 4th S. xi. 384, 410, 451.
J. BUTTON (Baling). — In British Museum, years ago;
it was lighted on by mere accident when looking for
another work. We do not remember under what head
it was catalogued.
OLPHAR HAMST. — The work was undertaken to meet
a want which then existed, but which was satisfactorily
supplied before the book to which our correspondent
refers was put to press.
H. E. S., Baltimore City College, has our best thanks :
but he was anticipated by another correspondent in our
last number.
J. C— c. — " N. & Q." has already stated that —
" Death hath a thousand doors to let out life "
is from Massinger, A Very Woman, v. 4.
H. H. — There is a department at Rome, under the
Pope, which registers all the particulars you refer to.
The election to the Papal chair always falls on a Cardinal.
J. M. A.— It is pronounced as a Jc ; or, rather, as the
ch, in German, less hard than the k.
X. Y. Z.—Junius Identified was written by John
Taylor, 1814.
HELP (Tenby).— Consult the London, Post-Office
Directory for a list of coin-dealers.
M. B. S. and other correspondents. — Papers ori Lon-
gevity have been forwarded to Mr. Thorns.
P. T. (Bristol.)— You had better consult some dealer
in the matter.
T. H. N.— " As mad as a hatter." See " X. & Q.," 2ml
and 3rd S. passim ; 4th S. viii. £95, 489.
OMICRON.— See " N. & Q.," 2na S. vii. 280 ; 4th S. xii.
384.
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
481
LONDON, SATURDAY, JUNE 20, 1874.
CONTENTS. — N° 25.
NOTES :— Salisbury.— The Substitution of I and w for r, 481—
Two Irish Poets hanged in London, 482 — Bunyan, 483 — Shak-
speariana, 484 — Durham Folk-Lore — Selenginsk Printing —
Swift Family — " Umbrella Harvey " — Cerevisia, 485 — The
Music to " Macbeth " — Burning Alive — Mr. Gladstone and
Wales, 486.
QUERIES :— Sea-Port Town, Africa, Ninety Miles S.E. from
Tunis — Coroner— George Coleman, 487 — Authors Wanted —
"Derechos del Hombre" — Duns Scotus — Peirce Family —
Dr. William Dodd — Lavinia Felton, Duchess of Bolton —
David Lloyd, Llwynrhydowen— Sir Edward-Maria Wingfleld,
1670, 488— Knight's "Quarterly Magazine" — Margery Mar-
Prelat— Fleur de Lys— " Trampleasure " — " A Stick of Eels"
—Single Eye- Glasses— " Hudibras "— Alderic XII. of Este—
Picture by Sir Joshua Reynolds— Notaries' Marks— Register
of Jews— Heraldic— " Sibilla Odaleta," 489.
EEPLIES:— Seizing Corpses for Debt— " Man-a-Lost," 490 —
Museum of Art in New York — "Blodius": "Blue," 4,91—
"Solidarity" — " And shook their chains," &c.— " Thy liquid
notes," &c.— St. Paul and Pliny— Pilcrow, 492— "Cut his
Stick" — " Valet " as a Verb — " Serpens nisi Serpentem," &c.
— Etymology of "Butterfly" — Jewish Dish, 493 — Shelley's
Titles to Poems — Dot over the " i " — " An Essay towards the
Proof," '&c. — Duplicates in the British Museum — Turner's
"Illustrated Shakespeare" — Errors of the Press, 494 — The
Population Two Hundred Years Ago — Adam's First Wife,
495— Whitsuntide— Spechyns— The " Silver Oar " — A Jew's
Will— An Heraldic Magazine, 496— Henry Masers de Latude
— Dr. Guillotin — "Canada" — Penn Pedigree, 497 — C. Owen,
of Warrington — Jewish Superstitions — "Like" as a Con-
junction and Substantive — Mortimers, Lords of Wigmore —
"Desier" — Sir Philip Sidney's "Arcadia" — The Waterloo
and Peninsular Medals — "That sanguine flower," <fec. —
Extraordinary Birth of Triplets— Leyden University, 498.
Notes on Books, &c.
SALISBURY.— THE SUBSTITUTION OP L AND
W FOR R.
In a bookseller's catalogue which was recently
sent me, but which I have unfortunately lost, I
noticed a book (printed A.D. 1641) in which
Salisbury was spelled Sarisbury, with an r.*
H was, of course, the original letter, for everybody
has heard of Old and New Sarum ; but when was
the r first changed into I ? Did not the change
begin till after 1641, the date of the book just
mentioned, or were the r and the I both then used 1
Other instances in which a medial t r has become
I are:— gillyflower (O.E. jerefloure, gillofre, &c. ;
Fr. giroflee), from the Gr. Kapvd</>vAAov J — see
Webster. Gerald, from the Germ. Gerhard.
* " Animadversions written by the Rt. Rev. Father in
God, John, Lord Bishop of Sarisbury, upon a treatise
entitled God's Love to Mankind. 12mo. calf, 1641."
f I say medial, because in the cases cited the r does
not begin or end the word, yet medial is hardly the term
to apply to an r beginning or ending a syllable, as it does
in more than one of these words. Have we no other
word to express the term inlautend ?
J The floiver of gillyflower seems to have been manu-
factured out of the terminal fle (in Fr. there is also girojle
= clove), which has some resemblance to flower in sound.
The word signified a plant with a pretty flower, and so
they made a flower of it.
Turtle — Fr. tourtereau ; It. tortora, tortola ; Lat.
turtur. Angola for Angora.^ Pilgrim (Ital.
pellegrino, and with I in most modern languages)
from the Lat. peregrinus. Instances in other
languages are Geltrude in Ital. = Gertrude, peligro
and milagro in Span., from periculum and mira-
culum, and in Fr. flibustier from freebooter (see
Littre'), whilst in the French of the people we
have collidor (also in the patois of Champagne)
for corridor; virebrequin for vilebrequin (centre-
bit); aigledon for edredon; celebral for cerebral.\\
These examples I have myself collected; a few
others, chiefly Italian, will be found in Max
Miiller's Lectures, second series, 1864, p. 171,
quoted from Diez. The change is generally as-
sumed to be so very common that people seldom
think it necessary to give any examples. My
experience is that genuine examples are by no
means common, and this is why I have taken the
trouble to collect some.
There is no doubt that I is easier to pronounce
than r, and this is shown by the circumstance that
children, when beginning to speak, frequently
substitute I for r, but, as far as I know, never
r for I. They have no difficulty in pronouncing
I, but they commonly either drop their r's, or
(which is more common) they substitute some
other letter for it. The letters substituted by
English children are I and w, as in labbit or
wabbit, lice or wice, and twee, for rabbit, rice,
and tree.t The substitution made use of by
French children is, a French lady informs me,
always I, and, diifering in this from English
children (see note IT), they substitute the I also
§ The same confusion between the two words is found
in French also. Littre has the following excellent re-
mark upon the subject :— " On confond souvent et a tort
angora et angola. Angola est le nom propre d'un pays
situe sur la cote occidentale de 1'Afrique; et Angora est
une ville de 1'Asie Mineure. G'est d'Angora et non
d' Angola que nous sont venus les chats el les chevres
dont il est parle dans 1'article."
|| In Italian also celebro is found as well as cerebro.
TJ The same child never, I believe, substitutes both
I and w for r, and it would seem that those children who
use I for r are more likely to attain to a correct pro-
nunciation of the r, as I never remember to have heard
an adult Englishman use I instead of r, whereas every-
body knows that there are not a few Englishmen who
have never been able to get beyond the w. L seems to be
used by children at the beginning of words only. Where
the r forms the second of two successive consonants either
at the beginning or in the middle of a word, it is, I
believe, never changed into I, in consequence, no doubt,
of the difficulty which the pronunciation of the double
consonant would present. I hare never heard a child
say tlee or fluit, and I expect a child that uses I would
pronounce these words tee, fuit, that is, by dropping
the r. But w (which is half, or more than half, a vowel,
cf. west and ouesl) is used in such cases, and twee and
fwuit are very often heard. Final r in English is so little
heard that children do not require to substitute either
I or w for it ; but, as it is a good deal heard in French,
French children substitute I for it. See next note.
482
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5th S. I. JUNE 20, 74.
when the r forms the second of two successive
consonants, as in ires and fruit, which they pro-
nounce ties and fluit ; and, again, when the r is
final, as in cher (see note *).
It is arousing, but hardly surprising perhaps,
to find that affected people who will not pronounce
the r revert to the practices of their childhood ;
but why is it that in England they always- sub-
stitute a w (like those who are organically incapable
of pronouncing r) and never an I ? In France I is
the letter chosen by children and the affected alike.
Of this affected use of I in French I met with an
excellent example in the Figaro the other day
(December 18, 1873). The writer is describing the
first representation of the " Merveilleuses " by
Sardou ; and, after one of the most splendid tableaux,
he says that he overheard an "incroyable gom-
meux," as he calls him, come out with the following:
" Vlai ! mon ties che' .... joue" pa les Hanlon-lees
aux Folies-Belgeles, ce selait chalmant .... chal-
mant .... chalmant ! " *
But, though it is easier to pronounce Z than r,
r has nevertheless been not infrequently substituted
for I ; but if I speak of this, it must be in another
note. F. CHANCE.
Sydenham Hill.
TWO IRISH POETS HANGED IN LONDON.
On the same day— the 20th February, 1749 —
two Irish poets were executed at Tyburn, both
having been convicted of a crime that was then
very common, but which the penalty of death did
not deter either men or women from perpetrating.
The crime was designated, in legal parlance,
" diminishing the current coin of this realm."
These two unhappy Irish poets were named
Usher Gahagan and Terence Connor, and were re-
puted to belong to families of great respectability
in Ireland. There can be no doubt that both were
well educated ; and one of them was so highly
thought of as a classical scholar as to be appointed
to act as the editor of " Brindley's edition of the
Classics." This was Usher Gahagan ; and the fact
is indisputable that he translated into Latin verse
Pope's Essay on Criticism, and, during his con-
finement in Newgate, the Messiah. The latter was
dedicated to the Duke of Newcastle, in the hope
that utterly contemptible, griping, and worthless
statesman would interfere to save the poor poet's
* In tliis passage vlai and ties, for vrai and ires, show
us that Parisian exquisites follow the example of French
children, and change the r into I, even when it is the
second of two successive consonants. But they pro-
nounce cher and par, che and pa, that is, they drop the
final r, whereas French children, so I am assured by my
French lady informant, would say <;el (not being able to
pronounce the ch) and pal. And even the exquisites
change the final r into I, when it is at the end of a
syllable and not of a word, as is shown by the use above
of Belgeks for Bergeres, and of chalmant for charmant.
life. In the same vain hope, Gahagan addressed
a copy of verses to Prince George (afterwards
George III.). His companion in misfortune —
Terence Connor — appealed in verse to the Duchess
of Queensberry to interfere on his behalf, and his
appeal was disregarded.
In the verses of both miserable convicts will be
found depicted the cruel treatment to which such
persons were exposed whilst confined in Newgate,
and awaiting the hour of execution. It is in the
following words that " the captive bard," as Connor
calls himself, describes his wretched plight : —
" Far, far, alas ! from home and native clime,
The first, perhaps, that did in Newgate rhime;
The first, perhaps, beneath his dreadful doom
That ever mounted the poetic loom."
He then entreats the Duchess in these words : —
• " Display thy bounty where a life 's at stake,
And save the wretched for the poet's sake ;
The poet pent in narrow darkling cell,
With vagrants and banditties forc'd to dwell;
In pond'rous gives of iron rudely bound,%
A stone his pillow, and his bed the ground.
One penny loaf the banquet of a day,
And chilling water to dilute his clay ;
Broke ev'ry morning of his painful rest,
The scorn of turnkeys, and the keeper's jest ;
Sternly rebuk'd, if he the least complains,
And menac'd with a double load of chains."
The same maltreatment of prisoners in Newgate
is thus alluded to by Gahagan in the verses
addressed " To His Royal Highness Prince George,
Duke of Cornwall, eldest son of H.E.H. Frederick,
Prince of Wales, on his acting the part of Cato at
Leicester House " : —
" Rous'd with the thought, and impotently vain,
I now would launch into a nobler strain ;
But see ! the captive Muse forbids the lays,
Unfit to sketch the merits I would praise ;
Such, at whose heels no galling shackles ring,
May raise their voice, and boldly touch the string ;
Cramp'd hand and foot, while I in gaol must stay,
Dreading each hour the execution day,
Pent up in den, opprobrious alms to crave ;
No Delphic cell, ye Gods ! nor Sibyl's cave ;
Nor will my Pegasus obey the rod,
With massy iron barlarously shod ;
Thrice I essay'd to force him up the height,
And thrice the painful gives restrain'd his flight."
Neither Prince, nor Duke, nor Duchess would
stir a step to save the life of Usher Gahagan or of
Terence Connor. They had been convicted of
" filing gold money," and therefore were they put
to death, at the same time with others convicted
of smuggling, forgery, and robbery, no longer
capital offences.
It is stated in the London Magazine, vol. xviii.
p. 102 (February, 1749, Exshaw's Irish edition),
that Gahagan had written the following distich on
himself —
" Scriba, faber, vates, scripsi, sculpsi, celebravi,
Syngrapha, ligna, duces, alite, celte, metro.
" Englished thus, only the words in the last line
reversed —
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
483
" Scriv'ner, mechanic, poet too,
Notes, tables, valiant men,
I 've drawn, I 've carv'd, I 've dared to sing,
With metre, tool, and pen."
Poor Gahagan ! although neither royalty nor
nobility would snatch him from the gallows, was
not, it will be seen by the annexed lines, without
sympathy from humbler members of society. In
the Gentleman's Magazine, vol. xix. p. 90 (Feb-
ruary, 1749), is a copy of verses addressed to
Gahagan, expressing admiration of his talents, and
proving by their pronunciation the eulogist to have
been a fellow-countryman of the death-doomed
poet. Thus wrote Gahagan's admirer : —
" Who without rapture can thy numbers read,
Who hear thy fate — and sorrow not succeed,
Who not condole thee betwixt fear and hope,
Who not admire thee thus translating Pope 1
Translating Pope in never-dying lays,
Bereft of books, of liberty, and — ease (aise) ;
Translating Pope, beneath severest doom,
In numbers worthy old Augustan Rome,
Whose ablest sons might glory in thy strains,
Tho' sung in massy, dire, encumb'ring chains."
Poor Gahagan ! in the same number of the
Gentleman's Magazine in which appears an account
of his execution, there is published, amongst the
literary notices, the following paragraph : —
" A Latin Translation of Mr. Pope's Temple of Fame,
and his Messiah, by Usher Gahagan. Price Is. Qd.
Register of Books, February, 1749, No. 41, p. 96."
And I cannot refrain from remarking that in
the same Kegister, No. 47, is announced the first
publication of a book that will live as long as the
English language. It is —
"The History of Tom Jones, a Foundling, by H.
Fielding, Esq., in 6 vols., 18s.
In the London Magazine the execution is thus
described : —
"Monday, 20 (Feb.). Six of the malefactors con-
demned in the three last preceding sessions were exe-
cuted at Tyburn, viz., William Jefferies, concerned in
rescuing a smuggler; Thomas Jones, for forging a
draught on Mess. Ironsides and Belchier of BOOL, pay-
able to Sir Watkin Williams AVynne ; John Frimley, for
robbing a man on Smallberry Green ; Usher Gahagan,
Terence Connor, and Joseph Mapham, for high treason
in diminishing the current coin of the|realm. Gahagan
and Connor declared themselves Roman Catholics, the
rest Protestants. Most of them behaved with great
decency."
— See London Magazine, vol. xviii. pp. 62, 99, 102 ;
also Gentleman's Magazine, xix. pp. 90, 96 (1749).
I regret to add that Gahagan and Connor are not
the only unfortunate Irish literary men whose lives
terminated in London. At a future time space
may perhaps be found for referring to them.
WM. B. MACCABE.
33, Booterstown Avenue, Dublin.
BUNYAN.
There appears to exist a popular misconception of
the nature of Bunyan's occupation during his long
incarceration in Bedford Gaol "for conscience's
sake." In all biographies of the Immortal Dreamer
it is stated that he supported himself while in
prison by "tagging" laces; and it is a common
notion that this had something to do with the laces
with which ladies adorn articles of their apparel, or
some kind of fringes ; in short, anything but the
right thing. The " Special Correspondent " of the
Daily News also appears to have rather hazy ideas
of what is meant by " tagging " laces. In his ex-
cellent account of the public proceedings in con-
nexion with the unveiling of the Bunyan statue
there, he says (Daily News, June 11, 1874) : —
"Not a vestige of the prison to which the little blind
girl used to go for the laces which her father wove,
remains."
Now, a little reflection (if, indeed, " specials," who
seem to be constantly writing " on the wing," ever
have time for such an exercise) would have shown
the writer the absurdity of supposing a tinker
capable of weaving " laces," or anything else ; he
would have seen that the art of manufacturing
textile fabrics and that of mending holes in old
kettles and other kitchen utensils are, in their
nature, " wide as the poles asunder." Bunyan
simply plied his own occupation in prison in
" tagging " laces ; that is, attaching little tips of
tin or twisted wire to the ends of shoe-laces, and
other kinds of laces then in use in fastening the
dress. In some biography of the gifted tinker, I
have, I think, seen " tagging laces " thus explained,
probably in the admirable " Life of Bunyan " pre-
fixed to Cassell's magnificent edition of The Holy
War, from the pen, if I mistake not, of the Eev.
Dr. Brock, who, by the way, was one of the
speakers at the recent Bunyan celebration at
Bedford. W. A. C.
Glasgow.
As it has been questioned whether the " Den,"
at the beginning of the Pilgrim's Progress, means
the gaol at Bedford, as the Dean of Westminster
stated the other day, when the statue was presented
to the town, and not rather " a valley," the follow-
ing note may not be without interest : — The second
edition, London, 1678, has no marginal note on the
passage. The third edition, London, 1679, has as
a note " the gaol." This was published in Bunyan's
lifetime, and is, therefore, an authority. In the
same edition there is a portrait in which Bunyan
is represented as reclining and asleep over a den,
in which there is a lion, with a portcullis. In the
edition of the first part, London, 1695, this portrait
is inscribed ; in the edition of the second part,
London, 1696, there is a portrait of him as reclin-
ing, but without the den. ED. MARSHALL.
Oxford.
484
NOTES AND QUERIES.
S. I. JUKE 20, '74.
SHAKSPEARIANA.
HAMLET (5th S. i. 25.)— In Act i. sc. 2, Clau-
dius says to Hamlet : —
" You are the most immediate to our throne
And, with no less nobility of love
Than that which dearest father bears his son,
Do I impart toward you."
In explanation of these lines, Steevens says that
" The crown^ of Denmark was elective. The King
means, that as Hamlet stands the fairest chance to be
next elected, he will strive with as much love to ensure
the crown to him, as a father would show in the con-
tinuance of heirdom to a son."
Blackstone says: —
" I agree with Mr. Steevens that the crown of Denmark
was elective, and not hereditary, though it might be cus-
tomary, in elections, to pay some attention to the royal
blood which by degrees produced hereditary succession.
.... Hamlet calls him (Claudius) drunkard, murderer,
villain; one who had carried the election by low and
mean practices ; had
" ' Popt in between the election and my hopes/
had
" ' From a shelf the precious diadem stole,
And put it in his pocket : '
but never hints at his being an usurper. His discontent
arose from his uncle's being preferred before him,
not from any legal right which he pretended to set up to
the crown. Some regard was probably had to the recom-
mendation of the preceding prince in electing the suc-
cessor. And therefore young Hamlet had ' the voice of
the King himself for his succession in Denmark ' ; and
he at his own death prophesies that ' the election would
light on Fortiubras, who had his dying voice,' conceiving
that by the death of his uncle, he himself had been king
for an instant, and had, therefore, a right to recommend.
When, in the fourth act, the rabble wished to choose
Laertes king, I understood that antiquity was forgot, and
custom violated, by electing a new king in the lifetime
of the old one, and perhaps also by the calling in a stranger
to the royal blood." — Bell's edition of Shakespeare, pub-
lished in London between 1780 and 1790, notes to
'Hamlet,' Act i., 1. 304.
E. T.
Xew York.
VERBAL CORRECTION. — As Dyer's Ghrongar Hill
requires the insertion of dost in
" Silent nymph, with curious eye,
Who [dost] the peaceful evening lie," —
So Shakspeare's Lucrece requires doth for icith in
" But they whose guilt doth in their bosoms lie
Imagine every eye beholds their blame."
J. BEALE.
EotTGH-HEW. —
Hamlet. — "There's a divinity that shapes our ends
Rough-hew them as we will."
Act v. sc. 2.
This phrase is used by Puttenham in his Arte
of English Poesie, chap, xx., speaking of the
" Gorgious," he says : —
" For the glorious lustre it setteth upon our speech and
language, the Greeks call it (Exargusia), the Latine
(Expolitio), a terme transferred from these polishers of
marble or porphirite, who, after it is rough hewen and
reduced to that fashion, they will set upon it a goodly
glosse, so smoth and cleere as ye may see your face in
it. or otherwise as it fareth by the bare and naked body,
which being attired in rich and gorgious apparell, seemeth
to the common usage of th' eye much more comely and
bewtifull then the naturall."
Lyly, in his Euphues, speaking of the bees, says,
" divers heiv, others polish," and, elsewhere, he
uses these words : — " I am enforced, with the
painter, to reserve my best colours to end Venus,
and to laie the ground with the basest."
W. L. EUSHTON.
WAS HAMLET FAT? —
" He 's fat and scant of breath."
Hamlet, Act v. sc. 2.
It appears to me that the word fat here may be a
misprint for faint. Nothing, we know, is more
common in old writing and printing than the elision
of the letter n, which would leave a single letter
only to be disposed of by an omission of the
printer. Mr. Staunton, an acute and discerning
critic, is evidently in doubt about the passage, as,
in annotating it, he asks, " Does the Queen refer
to Hamlet or Laertes 1 " If Shakspeare intended
Hamlet to be fat, how could Ophelia have lauded
him as —
" The glass of fashion, and the mould of form'"?
It would be no answer to say that " Love is blind."
Love is, no doubt, frequently enough blind to the
mental and moral defects of its object, but not to
obvious and unmistakable physical peculiarities.
If Hamlet had been really corpulent, it was im-
possible for Ophelia, against the evidence of her
senses, to have praised him for " that unmatch'd
form," on which the poor girl's fancy seemed to
linger so fondly. Save the passage in question,
there is not a syllable in the rest of the play to
warrant the supposition that Hamlet was out of
compass in body ; the presumption, indeed, is all
on the other side. Shakspeare, I should say, was
far too unerring a judge of the fitness of things to
commit the incongruity of depicting an imaginative,
highly-gifted young prince, and the hero of such a
drama, as gross of flesh, thereby gratuitously
casting an air of ridicule over the grandest and
noblest achievement of his own genius.
I am here reminded of a story of an eccentric?
amateur performer of the character of Hamlet, who
was so impressed with a belief, derived from the
above -quoted passage, of the Danish prince's
obesity, that he persisted, maugre all remonstrance,
in stuffing for the part, and actually appeared
before his wondering audience artificially swollen
to the proportions of a Falstaff. The opening
scenes passed off with some tittering, but when the
afflicted Hamlet arrived at the first soliloquy, and,
reposing his hands upon his temporary paunch,
began, with stolid solemnity, to drawl out —
" Oh ! that this too, too solid flesh would melt,
Thaw, and resolve itself into a de<r,"
the astonishment of the spectators reached its
perihelion, and merged in such inextinguishable
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
485
roars of laughter as to render the continuance
of the play impracticable. H. A. KENNEDY.
Waterloo Lodge, Reading.
Is SHAKSPEARE EIGHT ? —
" Osric. How is 't, Laertes ?
"Laertes. Why, as a woodcock to my own springe,
Osric ; I am justly kill'd with mine own treachery."
Hamlet, Act T. sc. 2.
It has always appeared to me that the words
above as they stand need elucidation. In what
sense can a woodcock caught in a springe serve as
an exemplification of treachery? What is the
force of the word " own " 1 In strict common par-
lance, it would imply that the woodcock itself con-
trives the springe ! so that I confess the phrase
seems to me to be a simile without a resemblance.
Laertes falls a victim to his own treachery : the
woodcock falls a victim, not in any sense to his
own treachery, but simply to the art (it can hardly
be called treachery) of the fowler.
Again, the preposition " to " seems out of place,
and incorrectly used ; but I suppose Shakspeare,
like the emperor of old, must be considered as
" supra grammaticam." ZOILUS.
MRS. C. CLARKE'S "CONCORDANCE TO SHAK-
SPEARE."— It is in no captious or querulous spirit
that I now point out one serious omission of a word
in the lady's great work, which, for thoroughness,
is unmatched. I allude to the word having as a
noun, in which sense it is frequently used by Shak-
speare, e. g., in Twelfth Night, Act iii. sc. 4, 1. 379 ;
in As You Like It, Act ii. sc. 3, 1. 61, and Act iii.
sc. 2, 1. 396 ; and in Macbeth, Act i. sc. 3, 1. 56.
It may occur in other plays. The word is al-
together omitted from the Concordance.
If the number of the line, as well as the act and
scene, had been given, the value of the work, as
one of easy reference, would have been greatly
enhanced. The-, list of errata in the forthcoming
edition will be found greatly increased, though
whether the word " having " will be included as an
omitted word, I am unable to say ; in. the mean-
time, I call the attention of your readers to the
fact of the omission, one which, I am enabled to
say, is the lady's, not the printer's.
FREDK. KULE.
DURHAM FOLK-LORE. — I have lately met with
a curious bit of folk-lore which prevails in some
parts of Durham. An old lady friend of mine was
jokingly remarking that she had once been charged
with causing the death of a baby. I asked how
so ? She replied that a poor neighbour woman,
having just been delivered of a baby, she was sent
for, wondering very much why she was wanted;
she went, and when she arrived at the house, was
very much surprised at finding the house full of
women, each having a glass of spirit to drink. She
was at once asked what she would have to drink.
" Oh, nothing," she replied. " Oh, dear, but you
must," was the hearty response. So rather than
offend the poor people she took a glass of spirit,
and remaining a short time with the strange assem-
bly, contrived to hide her glass of spirit and leave
the place, glad to get away from such a gathering.
A short time afterwards she called to see the poor
woman who had been confined, and was met with
looks rather shy and queer. As she could not
understand this, she asked, "Whatever is the
matter, my good woman?" "Oh! Mrs. H., yoh
should no hev done so, yoh hev kill't my bonny
bairn." " Whatever do you mean, my good woman? "
she asked. " Oh! Mrs. H., yoh left your glass of
spirit. Yoh did no drink it, so my bonny bairn
died. Yoh hev kill't my bonny bairn." On
making further inquiries, she learnt that each one
who goes into a house on the occasion of a birth
must drink a glass of spirit, else the child will not
live. S. KAYNER.
SELENGINSK PRINTING. — Selenginsk does figure
in Archdeacon Cotton's valuable Typographical
Gazetteer, but as the first book printed there is.
stated to have been struck off in 1840, it may
be well to transfer to " N. & Q." the following-
article from a recent Catalogue (No. 94, 1874)
issued by Mr. Paterson, of Edinburgh : —
"402. Mongolian Language. — The Book of Genesis,
translated into the Mongolian Language, 4to. boards.
1834. Printed at the Town of Selenginsk in Eastern
Siberia."
W. E. A. A.
Rusholme.
SWIFT FAMILY. — In a list of Protestants who
were made denizens of Ireland pursuant to Act 'of
Parliament, 13 Car. II., on taking the oaths of
allegiance and supremacy, appears : —
" Name and occupation— Swift, William, Gent. ; Place
of Nativity — Goodridge, co. Hereford ; Time of taking ye
Oaths— July 27, 69 ; Inrolment— R. 19."— Egerton MSS.
77, B. M.
This was an uncle of the Dean's ; he is said to
have died s. p. C. S. K.
"UMBRELLA HARVEY." — In the article in the
last Quarterly on " Gilray and the Caricaturists,"
the reviewer speaks of the introduction of umbrellas
in 1750, and the long resistance to their use on
" the score of affectation and singularity." My
early life was passed in the immediate vicinity of
a large Midland town. I remember the person
who was said to be the first in that place who used
an umbrella. He was known and distinguished
from Other persons of the same name, till his death
(in this century), as " Umbrella Harvey."
ELLCEE.
Craven.
CEREVISIA. — This name for beer or ale — a
Gaulish or British liquor — was evidently not of
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[5:h S I. JUNE 20, 74.
Latin derivation, but must be drawn from some
northern language. Now, when we remember that
the Eoman C was pronounced as K, and when we
drop the isia as a mere termination, we find
remaining Icereu, remarkably agreeing with the
Welsh crw, the British name for ale. The Greek
Kpi, for barley, and the Latin name of the goddess
Ceres (sounded K£re"s), further confirm this con-
jecture.' S. T. P.
THE Music TO "MACBETH." — To ask who com-
posed the music to Macbeth seems rather akin to
Mrs. Kitty's inquiry of "Who wrote Shikspur?"
only that, regarded by the light of modern criticism,
the latter appears by no means so absurd a question
as it did when High Life below Stairs was produced.
According to the writer of an article entitled
" Correct Costumes," in All the Year Round (No.
287, p. 166, May 30), the general opinion on this
subject is erroneous. He says, referring to the
performance of Macbeth at Sadler's Wells, " Mr.
Phelps's version of the play being so strictly textual
that the musical embellishments, usually attributed
to Locke, but, in truth, supplied by Leveridge, were
discarded for the first time for many years."
I have marked by italics the few words which
are to sever the name of Matthew Lock (not Locke)
from the well-known music with which it has so
long been associated.
The writer gives no authority for this statement,
but probably had in his mind the following
passage : —
" In Howe's edition of Shakespeare the second act is
said to have been set by Leveridge, and perhaps we are
to understand that the rest of the songs in that tragedy
were also set by him, but whether that editor did not
mistake the music of Matthew Lock for Liveridge (sic}
may deserve enquiry."— Hawkins's History of Music,
1776, vol. v. 1821.
If Hawkins had made the inquiry instead of
saying the subject deserved it, he would have
found that it was impossible that Leveridge could
have had anything to do with the original music,
though, possibly, he may have re-arranged or
altered it ; that, however, is apart from the question
at issue.
Macbeth, with the music, was first performed at
the theatre in Dorset Gardens, in 1672, with, says
Downes, " All the singing and dancing in it ; the
first composed by Mr. Lock, the other by ,Mr.
Channel and Mr. Joseph Priest" (Eoscius Angli-
canus, ed. 1789, p. 43).
Matthew Lock died in 1677, and might very
well, therefore, in point of time, be, as he is dis-
tinctly said to have been, the composer of the music.
Now, let us see how the claim on behalf of
Leveridge stands the test. He died, says the
Penny Cyclopasdia, in 1758, at the age of eighty-
eight years. He was born, consequently, in 1670,
and was two years old when the music, the com-
position of which it is endeavoured to credit him
with, was given to the world. Unless these dates
can be shown to be incorrect, it is evident that the
writer in All the Year Round has put forward his
statement without taking any trouble to a'scertain
its accuracy, and a belief that Matthew Lock com-
posed the music to Macbeth is not yet proved to
be a " vulgar error." CHARLES WYLIE.
BURNING ALIVE. — The following paragraph is
from the Leeds Mercury of May 8. One would
hope it is a mere newspaper fiction. If it be true,
as " N.-& Q." has correspondents in all parts of the
world, I trust we shall receive further particulars :
"Two PERSONS BURNED ALIVE FOR SORCERY. — The
New York papers contain the following extraordinary
item of news from the city of Mexico : — ' Seiior Castilla,
alcalde of Jacobo, in the State of Sinaloa, has officially
reported to the prefect of his district that on April 4 he
arrested, tried, and burned alive Jose Maria Bonilla and
his wife Diega, for sorcery, it having been proved that
they had bewitched one Silvestere Zacarias. The day
before the execution Citizen Porras, as a final test, made
Zacarias, whom they were said to have bewitched, swal-
low three draughts of blessed water, whereupon the
latter vomited fragments of a blanket and bunches of
hair.' "
K. P. D. E.
MR. GLADSTONE AND WALES.— The "Cambrian
Flaneur," in a recent letter to the South Wales
Daily News, makes the following reference to
Mr. Gladstone's connexion with Wales : —
" The Snowdon Ranger Inn, where the ex-Premier
has taken up his temporary lodging, is situate on Llyn
Cwellyn, whose clear waters in a peculiar manner reflect
the pictured heavens, and register every passing cloud
that skims its surface. The scene in the vicinity of the
lake is wild, dreary, and rugged; when one ascends
higher up the vale the view is incomparably grand.
Many of your readers might not be aware that Mr.
Gladstone's ancestors were Carnarvonshire people. Sir
John Glynne, the founder of the family, was born at
Glynllifon, in that county, in 1603. During the wars
between the Parliament and Charles, he espoused the
popular cause, became a special favourite of the great
Protector, Oliver Cromwell, who in 1657 made him a
member of the House of Peers. After the Restoration
he sat in the Convention Parliament as member for his
native county, although it does not appear that he was
then a resident. Hawarden, pronounced Harden, the
family seat of the Glynnes, the county residence of Sir
Stephen Glynne, Mrs. Gladstone's eldest brother, was,
with the domain, sequestrated in 1651, and soon after-
wards it was purchased by Sir John (or Serjeant) Glynne,
to whom Butler, in his Hudibras, thus refers : —
' Did not the learned Glynne and Maynard
To make good subjects traitors strain hard1?'
This distinguished lawyer died in 1666, and in 1671 his
son was created a baronet by Charles II. The Hawarden
estate, which, I believe, is entailed on the male issue,
will go to Mr. Gladstone's eldest son; Sir Stephen being
a bachelor."
There is a singular historical fact connected with
the parish of Hawarden, which is not generally
known, viz., that Lady Hamilton, whose life is so
closely connected with Lord Nelson, and, if I
rightly remember, with Lord Byron, was a native
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of this parish. Her parents were poor but in
dustrious people. When a young girl, she was in
the service of Dr. Thomas, who then resided in
Hawarden village. D. S. MACKEAN.
Spotland, Rochdale.
[We must request correspondents desiring information
on family matters of only private interest, to affix thei
names and addresses to their queries, in order that th
answers may be addressed to them direct.]
SEA-PORT TOWN, AFRICA, NINETY MILES S.E
FROM TUNIS.* — According to Ibn Khallikan,t anc
other Arabic authorities, the city from which the
Continent of Africa derives its name was foundec
by, and called after, Ifrikus or Ifrikin, the son o:
Kais, the son of Saif of the Himyarite Arab tribe
apparently about the period when the Roman
Prefect Gregory was killed by Zobeir, near
Sufetula, A.D. 647.$
In 1390 the town Africa, according to Sir John
Froissart, who died in 1410, was besieged for sixty-
one days by the French, at the request of the
Genoese, and then abandoned, 22nd July, on ac-
count of the unhealthiness of the troops. Froissart
says that he travelled to Calais to obtain informa-
tion from officers who served at the siege, and hi
statements are, therefore, almost as valuable as
though he had been present himself.
He gives several drawings of the town Africa,
in one of which cannon is represented as being
used by the besieging army, and describes it as
being the most convenient point of entrance into
Barbary, situated seventy miles distant from Tunis.
According to his account, it was shaped like Calais,
in the form of a bow, having its arms towards the
sea, and was surrounded by a wall wonderfully
strong. §
The countries Ethiopia, Libya, and Lidya, are
spoken of in the Bible, but not either Africa or
Carthage. According to Lempriere, the Continent
Africa was called Libya by the Greeks, a state-
ment opposed to Major Rennell's opinion on the
subject, who says that, though occasionally called
by either name, " Africa, and not Libya, is the
term generally used by Herodotus." ||
In a note to Froissart, it is stated that the town
of Africa was razed to the ground by the Genoese
Admiral, Andrea Doria, in 1535, and has since
never been rebuilt, but evidently there is some
error in this account, because, according to both
lehan le G4dre, and De Mezeray, this second siege
* Edinburgh Gazetteer, 1827.
f Ibn Khallikan's Biographical Dictionary, translated
by Baron Mac Guckin de Slane, vol. i. pp. 35 and 221.
J Gibbon's Rome, vol. vi. p. 75. Bohn.
§ Froissart's Chronicles, vol. ii. pp. 446—473. Bohn.
|| Classical Dictionary, Halifax, 1865; The Oeographical
System of Herodotus, by James Rennell, Esq.
of the town Africa, or Mahadia, as it is also called
by the latter, took place fifteen years afterwards,
in the year 1550.*
Carthage, apparently the place indicated by the
note above referred to, and Africa are different
towns of distinct localities, Carthage being situated
twelve miles E.N.E., and Africa ninety S.E. from
Tunis. The Edinburgh Gazetteer describes Africa
as "A sea-port town of considerable opulence in
the territory of Tunis," as if still in existence, but
it is not marked by either name in any map that
I can find.
Was Kais, the father of Ifrikus, the prisoner
Kais, examined by Heraclius, the African Emperor
of Rome, A.H. 17 = A.D. 638 ?f and what is the date
of the earliest copy extant of Herodotus in which
the word Africa is mentioned 1 -E.
Since writing the above, I find the town Africa
on the coast, adjoining Mahoeta, marked in a map
of Africa, 1652, given in Peter Heylyn's Cosmo-
graphie of the World. It lays W. by S. from
Lempadosa, Lipadosa of Orlando Furioso.
CORONER. — Richardson quotes from Smith's
Commomvealth : —
" I take that this name commeth because that the
Death of every Subject by violence is accounted to touch
the Crowne of the Prince, and to be a detriment unto it."
Shakspeare's grave-diggers we know — and grave-
diggers to this day, I believe— are in favour of this
derivation. When Sancho delivers judgment in
Barataria, his judgment is taken down by his
" Coronista," and forthwith transmitted to the
Duke. Coronista is a form of cronista, a chronicler ;
but in this case, as we see, means a notary, or
secretary. I do not propose it as identical with
our " coroner " ; but the Greek etym. seems as
near akin as Smith's Latin. Can " N. & Q." en-
lighten me 1 QUIVIS.
GEORGE COLMAN. — I shall feel much indebted
to any correspondent of " N. & Q." who will in-
form me of the titles and dates of any collections
that have been published of the fugitive pieces of
George Colman, the author of John Bull, and
many other highly popular dramas. I am aware
of the Broad Grins, published (I believe) by
"'adell & Co., more than sixty years ago ; but that
collection, if I recollect rightly, did not contain
he piece of which I am now in search, namely, A
Reckoning with Time, which begins with, —
" Come on, old Time ! — nay now that 's stuff,
Gaffer tliou com'st on fast enough,
Sworn foe to Wit and Beauty."
J. C. H.
De Mezeray's France, translated by John Bulteel,
Sent., 1683, pp. 629, 631 ; Fleur et Merdes Hystoires, par
ehan le Gedre Aurelinoys, Mathematicien, Paris, 1550,
iers livre, feuil. Ixxxi.
t Ockley's History of the Saracens, p. 232. Bohn.
488
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5th S. I. JUNE 20, 74.
AUTHORS WANTED of verses beginning —
" Matches are made for many reasons —
For Love, Convenience, Money, Fun, and Spite,"
and ending —
" When folks in life turn over a new leaf,
iWhy, very few would grumble at a gold one ! "
• " This marriage is a terrible thing ;
"Tis like that well-known trick in the ring," &c.
• " Let not thy passions' force so powerful be
Over thy reason, soul and liberty,
As to ensnare thee to a wedded life,
Ere thou art able to maintain a wife."
" Though wedlock by most men be reckoned a curse,
Three wives did I marry for better for worse ;
The first for her person, the next for her purse,
The third for a warming-pan, doctor, and nurse."
. " Wha weds for siller, weds for care ;
Wha weds for beauty, weds nae mair ;
But he that weds them baith thegither,
Content wi' ane, enjoys the ither."
I imagine the last quotation is a mere rhyming
Scotch proverb or niaxim, and if so, probably of
unknown authorship. The last but one of the
above appears to be a sort of jocular epitaph.
W. A. C.
Glasgow.
" DERECHOS DEL HOMBRE." — I should be glad
to learn the name of the author of a small Spanish
work which has recently come into my hands : —
" Derechos del H ombre y del Ciudadano, con varias
Maximas Republicanas ; y con un discurso preliminar,
dirigido a los Americanos. Londres, Imprenta Espanola
de M. Calero, No. 17, Frederick Place, Goswell Road,
1825." 12mo. pp. 57.
DUDLEY ARMYTAGE.
DUNS SCOTUS. —
"M.CCCC.LXXIIII.
" Hsec Albert, ego Stedal Colibeta mgr.
Altiloq. Scoti formis uberrima pressi.
Religioe. sacra & diva celeberrim. arte.
Clar. & igeio. Augustit. ex ordie. Tomas
Impressus purgavit op. studio iteger. oi.
Anglia cui patria e. gnis. gnoie penketh. "
The above is the colophon to the Quidlibeta of
Duns Scotus in the Wurrington Museum Library.
wish to know where it was printed, if at Padua,
Venice, or where? CIDH.
PEIRCE (ALIAS PEARS, ALIAS PIERS) FAMILY. —
Eichard Peirce, Gent., lies buried at Cowfold, co.
Sussex, and his monumental inscription in that
church records that " he received a wound through
his body at Edgehill Fight, in the year 1642, as
he was loyally defending his King and Country.'-'
He died on the 22nd June, 1714, aged 94. Was
he related to Stephen Pears, whose name is also
written Pearse and Piers, who was the Keeper
of the Royal Wardrobe at Eichmond, co. Surrey,
•who died iu 1630, and whose son, the Eev. George
Peirce (vide Walker's Sufferings of the Clergy,
Pt. II., p. 327), was sequestered for his loyalty
during the Commonwealth 1 Were the above-
named Eichard and Stephen connected with the
'amily of Piers, seated for generations at Westfield,
in the Eape of Hastings ? P. P. P.
DR. WILLIAM DODD. — Can you give me any
information respecting his antecedents 1 His father
was the Eev. W. Dodd, Vicar of Bourne in Lincoln-
shire. Who was his grandfather, and was he any
relation to the great Cheshire family — the Dods of
Edge ? I should be glad, also, if any one can tell
me of any books to which I might refer, in order
obtain the desired information ; Ormerod's
History of Cheshire throws no light on the subject.
P. E. P.
[Consult a pamphlet attributed to Isaac Reed, entitled
Historical Memoirs of the Life and Writings of the late
Rev. William Dodd, 1777, and A Famous Story ; being
t/ie Story of the Unfortunate Dr. Dodd, by Percy Fitz-
gerald, 1865. See also "N. & Q.," 1st S. ii. 291;
iii. 182 ; viii. 245; 2nd S. v. 8, 171, 221 ; viii. 419 ; 3rd S.
vii. 192.]
LAVINIA FENTON, DUCHESS OF BOLTON. — Is
any portrait of this once celebrated lady, the
original Polly of the Beggar's Opera, in existence ;
and, if so, by what artist ? Conjecture . would
point to there being one either at Bolton Hall, in
Wensleydale, or at Hackwood Park, near Basing-
stoke. At Capple Bank, in Wensleydale, there is
still in existence a summer-house built for her, in
which local tradition asserts she used to spend
much time on her visits to the North of England,
and which commands one of the most extensive
and varied prospects in the dale. She seems to be
called indifferently Lavinia Fenton and Lavinia
Beswick, and died in 1760, leaving no legitimate
issue by the Duke of Bolton.
JOHN PICKFORD, M.A.
Newbourne Rectory, Woodbridge.
DAVID LLOYD, LLWYNRHYDOWEN. — Will any
reader help me to get at the obituary of this
gentleman ? In the Monthly Repository for 1827,
p. 693, he is described as —
" A man of pre-eminent talents, and in his day the most
distinguished of the Presbyterian ministers of South
Wales. He died February 4th, 1779, universally respected,
leaving behind a professional reputation which yet sur-
vives in the churches of the Principality."
The same magazine for 1817, p. 741, says:—
" Of David Lloyd a pretty long account appeared
in the Monthly Magazine for the year 1812."
have looked up a magazine of this name without
finding the " long account," and I conclude either
that there must have been more than one magazine
of this name, or that there is an error in the date
given. T. C. U.
Mount Pleasant Garden, Aberdare.
SIR EDWARD-MARIA WINGFIELD, 1670.— In
the pedigree of Wingfield of Tickencote, in Burke's
History of the Commoners, vol. ii., mention is made
of Sir Edward-Maria Wingfield, born in 1608, died
5th S. I. JUNE 20, '74.
NOTES AND QUERIES.
489
1670. Was this knight's name really Edward-
Maria, or is it a misprint ? If such really was his
name, I am. anxious to know how he came by it.
Did any male member of the family, before 1608,
bear the name of Maria 1 CORNUB.
KNIGHT'S " QUARTERLY MAGAZINE." — Who are
the authors of the following pieces in Knight's
Quarterly Magazine, 1823 ? 1. " Ripperda," a
dramatic sketch (vol. i., p. 103). 2. " The Raven,"
a Greek tale, by Arch. Frazer, nmn-de-plume (vol. i.,
p. 349). A. Frazer is author also of " The Black
Chamber," an anecdote from the German. 3. " The
Old Man of the Mountain," a drama, in 3 scenes,
by R. M. (vol. ii., p. 310;. There is an " Essay on
Quadrille," possibly by the same author, having
the signature Rich. Mills. 4. " The Lamia," a
dramatic sketch (vol. ii., p. 351). R. INGLIS.
MARGERY MAR-PRELAT. — I have a tract under
the following title : —
" Our Demands of the English Lords manifested being
at Ripon, 1640, with answers to the complaints and
grievances given in by the Bishop of Durham, Northum-
berland, and some of Newcastle, said to be committed by
our Army. Printed by Margery Mar Prelat, 1640."
The tract is written in the interest of the Scotch
army relative to the treaty which took place at
Ripon, and alludes to the matters then in question.
Can any information be given as to the printer
and publisher of the tract, which does not appear
to have any connexion with the Marprelate Tracts 1
EDWARD HAILSTONE.
Walton Hall.
FLEUR DE LYS. — Why do the Craven peasants,
•when they speak of the fleur de lys, call it
"Flower-de-luce, and Old Shacldeton" ? Who
was Old Shackleton, and why was he connected
with the fleur de lys 1 Shackleton is a common
and honoured name amongst the Yorkshire
Quakers, but I never knew that any one of the
race had a liking for the flower, which is by no
means a common one in Craven ; indeed, it is
rarely found except in gardens.
A. MURITHIAN.
" TRAMPLEASURE." — On a sign-board in an old
-and dilapidated street, laid open by the demolition
of buildings on the Albert Embankment, was to be
seen this name. Is it a corruption of the French
Trente plaisirs, for it can't possibly have any
reference to a day's pleasuring on the tram-roads
of the vicinity 1 A day or two ago I found the
sign- board painted over, and the name is now
blotted out for ever unless preserved mayhap in
your pages. H. H.
Lavender Hill.
" A STICK OF EELS."— Payment of rent in pro-
duce is gradually going out of fashion, though
corn rents still prevail with some of the Univer-
sities and Ecclesiastical Corporations Sole ; but I
lately met with the case of a reservation of rent in
the shape of " a stick of eels." The property
demised was a water-mill, which accounts for the
produce. Can any of your readers enlighten me
as to the quantity of eels included in a " stick"?
J. R.
SINGLE EYE-GLASSES. — Can any oculist de-
scribe their effect on the sight, and say whether
they are preferable or otherwise to double glasses ?
It seems strange that the single barrel opera-glass
should be discarded for the universally used
binocular, while the single eye-glass takes the
place of the double one. GEORGE ELLIS.
St. John's Wood.
" HUDIBRAS " : —
"He had first matter seen undrest,
And took her naked all alone,
Before one ray of form was on."
Are these lines of Hudibras, referring to an al-
chemist, supposed to point to a particular
individual? R. G.
University College, London.
ALBERIC XII. OF EST£. — I have a miniature
portrait, head in grisaille, with the following in-
scription : " Albericvs XII. Atestivs Belgioiosii
et S. R. I. Princeps." What member of the great
and ancient Est6 family does this represent ? I am
unable to identify it, and shall be glad of infor-
mation as to the subject of it. No doubt some of
your readers will be able to identify it and give
the approximate date. B. H. C.
PICTURE BY SIR JOSHUA REYNOLDS. — Can any
of your readers tell me in whose possession is the
head of King Lear, by this painter ? A line en-
graving from it, by W. Sharp, was published by
Boydell in 1783, and there is also a mezzotint,
which is much finer. CAERLLEON.
NOTARIES' MARKS. — I should feel much obliged
for (1) any information on the origin, and past and
present use, of notaries' marks ; (2) references to
ources of information on these points ; (3) infor-
mation as to where specimens of such marks, or
fac-similes of them, may be seen.
JOHN W. BONE, F.S.A.
REGISTER OF JEWS. — Does there exist any public
register of the births, marriages, and deaths of
Jews in London ? If so, where may it be consulted ?
Information will much oblige. H. T. E.
HERALDIC. — Can you tell me what arms are
borne by the families of Rawling and Alpress,
both of Huntingdonshire ? A. 0. M. JAY.
Lansdowne Terrace, Leamington.
" SIBILLA ODALETA." — Who was the author of
this Italian story, published by Baudry, Paris,
1832? W. M. M.
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NOTES AND QUEEIES.
[5th 8. 1. JUNE 20, 74.
SEIZING CORPSES FOR DEBT.
(4th S. xii. 158, 196, 296.)
Although Lord Ellenborough, in Jones v. Ash-
burnham, 4 East's Reports, 460, 465, treats this
practice as illegal, he cites no authority whatever
for his dictum, and seems to have been wholly
ignorant that it prevailed in England for centuries.
In Quick v. Coppleton, 1 Levinz, 162 (A.D.
1666), Hyde, Chief Justice, cited a cose in which
a promise by a woman to pay her son's debt, to
save his dead body from arrest, was held good by
the court.
Dr. Burn (Eccl. Law, vol. i. 259) mentions that
the funeral of Sir Barnard Turner, in 1784, pro-
ceeding from London to Hertfordshire, was said to
have been stopped by an arrest of his body, till
his friends entered into engagements for his debts.
Dr. Johnson, in his Lives of the Poets, mentions a
similar case. In Moreton's Secrets of the Invisible
World, which was written by Defoe (p. 177),
treating of the notion of the old Greeks that a
man's soul could not go to Elysium while his body
lay unburied, he says : —
" Happy it is for us, in these malicious days, that it is
otherwise here, when not enemies only, but even cruel
Creditors, might arrest the dead body of their Debtor,
and send the soul of him to the Devil, or keep it hovering
and wandering in the air till their debts were paid. As
times go now, no poor debtor would be at rest any more
after he was dead, than he could before, till his debts
were all paid."
In Lydgate's Tale of the Lady Prioress and her
Three Suitors (Percy Publications, vol. ii. p. Ill),
the plot turns upon this custom. The lady says
to her priestly lover : —
" I have a cosen of my blode
Lyethe ded in the chapylle wood
For owing of a sum of good
His bering is forbode."
And she despatches the priest to bury him secretly
by night. Afterwards she befools her third suitor,
the merchant, by telling him that the dead man
was her debtor, and that, —
" A pryst ys theder as y t ys me tolde
To bery him thys night.
Yf the corse beryd be and ower money not payed
Yt were a fowll sham for us so for to be betrayed."
And she persuades the merchant to disguise him-
self as a devil, and to go and frighten the priest
In the Romance of Sir Amadace (Camden
Society's Publications, vol. xviii. p. 32), which
seems to have been composed in the early part of
the fifteenth century, the knight and his squire
come upon a chapel in a wood, where a widow sits
all alone watching the body of her dead husband,
which has been kept above ground sixteen weeks
for a debt of thirty pounds, which she had no
means to pay, until, as the squire tells his master, —
" Seche a stinke as I had therf
Sertis thenne had I nevyr are
No quere in no stid."
The knight exhibits his generosity by paying the
debt and burying the body, though it exhausts all
his funds and reduces him to poverty. This is a
pretty plain proof of what the custom was above
four hundred years ago. But two hundred years
even before that, Tancredi, in his work on the
Pontifical Decretals, states the same thing. I
have not been able to get a sight of his book,
which is not in the British Museum, but Lynde-
wood, who wrote about 1430-1450 (see Oxon edit.,
1679, p. 278), quotes him thus : —
" Sed quaero nuriquid propter debitum defuncti possit
seu debeat differri sepultura? Dicit Tancredus quod
sic in Anglia, et sic hoc olim erat statutum.
" Sed ut dicit Joannes Andreas, hoc tanquam iniqui-
tatem continens, fuit sublatum de textu. Mors namque
omnia solvit."
This Tancredi was Archdeacon of Bologna about
1214 to 1234, and a very learned canonist ; and
in all probability derived his knowledge of English
customs from some English priests at the University
of Bologna. But Lyndewood himself admits the
English custom was formerly as stated by Tancredi,.
for the word "statutum" signified a local custom in
mediaeval Latin (Du Fresne, Gloss.), and intimates
that some one had erased it out of the text of
Tancredi as being oppressive. Lyndewood shows
it was contrary to the civil law and the canon law,
but those who know how obstinately the English,
nation opposed those laws, when they conflicted
with our native customs, will feel no difficulty on
that account in believing that the custom of Eng-
land was as above stated. According to Black-
stone, the general customs of England constitute
the common law ; and the barbarity of the Middle
Ages may allow us to suspect that this custom of
stopping the burial of the dead for debt was as
much law in old times as that of keeping a cucking-
stool for scolds, or applying the water ordeal to
witches ; and that it is one of the many cases in
which the ancient common law has been amended
by the judges of their own authority, in accordanco
with the improved humanity of the times. The
custom, however, was not confined to England.
It appears to have prevailed in Flanders, and in
Spain till forbidden by the Emperor Charles V.
(Peckius de Jure Sistendi, c. 5, s. 24), and this,
although it had been expressly prohibited by the
Emperor Justinian in his 60th and 115th novels.
This shows that the practice existed in parts of
the Eoman Empire thirteen hundred years ago,
and that this " vulgar error," as some writers term
it, had the sanction of remote antiquity in its
favour. JOSEPH BROWN.
Temple.
"MAN-A-LosT" (5th S. i. 385, 433.)— Until I
received " N. & Q." I was unaware that the owl
5* S. I. JUNE 20, 74.]
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491
incident mentioned by me in Grantley Grange hac
occurred elsewhere. Your three correspondents
speak respectively of forty, fifty, and thirty years
.ago ; the Owl, and T. T. too, must, there
fore, have heard of it, seeing that it was— just
as I have given it — a real and local occurrence
It happened twenty-three years ago to the father
of the present George , a farmer in this (S
parish, in the Terne Valley, when he was comin
home from Worcester market ; and it is wel
known to every man, woman and child in the
district, who call owls T. T.'s whenever they hear
them. I have known the son and the grandson o:
the old man for eighteen years, and have been in
their house — on the farm that old George had —
scores of times ; and the father, the present George
used to speak of the incident, and its time and
place ; and. he would also, and with great gusto,
relate how (say) A. B., a man I know, and who is
still living, would in his presence tease the old
man at market, by making his own dog sit up and
howl, " Who, who," when asked the question,
"What did the owl say, doggie"; and how A. B.
would make a speedy exit from the bar to avoid
old George's stick. By an odd coincidence, just
as the postman came, and I opened "N. & Q.'
this morning, Alfred, George's son, with whom I
am intimate, rode down here for me to see his
hunter. Should MR. MORTIMER COLLINS visit
Worcester he can soon satisfy himself as to the
reality and locality of the incident. On coming
here on a visit a few days ago — a farmhouse in the
Teme Valley, twelve miles distant from Worcester,
and close to George's — I said to my friend, " Has
Alfred seen Grantley Grange " ? "I don't know,"
was the reply ; " for as you have put in that owl
bit about his grandfather, I did not like to lend it
him." Now " Trotter " is not the name, and the
incident happens to a workman. If, however, he
or his father should see "N. & Q." as well as
Grantley Grange, I fear they will think the old
man imposed upon them, and that in his various
journeyings as farmer and grazier he must have
picked up the owl incident at Sherston, Cirencester,
or in the Valley of the Tamar.
SHELSLEY BEAUCHAMP.
MUSEUM OF ART IN NEW YORK (5th S. i. 11.)
— My series of " N. & Q." failed from January 3rd
to April llth. I state this by way of explanation
to CRESCENT of my delay in acknowledging his
kind reply (p. 10) to my porcelain queries. I will
cheerfully accept his offer to reply to a private
communication. Meantime, it is right, as a matter
of history, that he, and " N. & Q.," and the public
should know that he is wrong in saying that New
York does not possess a Museum of Art. Please
make a note of the fact that in 1871 was founded
in New York the Metropolitan Museum of Art,
which is to be conducted as nearly as may be on a
plan similar to that of the South Kensington
Museum. The Metropolitan Museum of Art pos-
sesses a valuable collection of paintings by old
masters, chiefly of the Dutch school, the Cesnola,
collection of Cypriote antiquities, which is known
in England, and various other treasures of Euro-
pean and American Art. It is now just one year
since the Metropolitan Museum of Art opened a
Loan Collection Exhibition, which has within the
year become extensive, and fills a number of rooms
in quite a large building. The State of New York
has authorized the Department of Parks in the city
of New York to expend 500,000 dollars in the
erection of a building /in Central Park, as a place
of deposit for the Museum. Excavations have been
commenced for the foundations. The Loan Col-
lection, small as it is in comparison with European
models, has surprised its most sanguine friends by
the amount of Art-treasure which it has drawn from
private hands in this country. This exhibition
has been rich in the works of modern European
painters, in old Japanese and Chinese porcelain,
enamels, and lacquer ; in illuminated manuscripts,
early typography and engraving ; in old arms and
armour of various nations, and in some departments
of ceramic art. It is worthy of notice in " N. & Q."
that such an exhibition in New York has been in
fair measure successful ; for it illustrates the fact
that America really possesses much that is valuable
in Art illustration, not only by reason of purchases
made by our wealthier citizens, but as the result of
importation in the seventeenth and eighteenth
centuries. Many broken-down families emigrated
to America in early times ; and it doubtless hap-
pened frequently that such families brought with
them single articles which were valued for associa-
tions. Thus pictures, cinque-cento works of various
kinds, old furniture, glass, aod even old books, are
frequently found in American homes which are
worthy of place in any museum. The Metropolitan
Museum has commenced the work of collecting
these articles, and the last year's success has been
very satisfactory. I am emboldened to write thus
much by the kind conclusion to the communication
of CRESCENT in the number of " N. & Q." for
Jan. 3. I can assure him, and all others, that
American lovers of Art will heartily appreciate and
ae grateful for such help as he offers so cordially ;
n no respect is such help more needed than in
mabling us to classify works of Art which we have
no means of comparing with those already col-
"ected and classified in the great European col-
ections. W. N. Y.
New York.
"BLODIUS": "BLUE" (5th S. i. 167,233,353,
397.) — Until a recent time altar cloths were either
•ed or blue, probably the dominical and festal, and
he ferial colours in ordinary use.
" Bloo coloure " is rendered in the Promptorium
492
NOTES AND QUEEIES.
[5th 8. 1. JUNE 20, 74.
" lividus, luridus " (black and blue), and Durand
explains "violaceus color" as "pallidus et quasi
lividus " (lib. iii. fo. Ixiiii.), " livida cortina signat
tribulation em" (lib. i. fo. xiiii.). This was probably
violet, used at York during Lent and (probably at
Salisbury also) in Advent (Dugdale, viii. 1209). At
St. Swithin's, London, there was a " berying clothe
of blewe and cloth of gold " (MS. Inv. P.R.O.).
Chichele gave to All Souls' College a whole suit
" de blodio panno de Cypres" (Collect. Cur., ii. 262).
I have seen a miniature of a mass of requiem before
an altar vested in blue, and another with a rich
frontlet or orphrey, with a bright blue ground.
Petrus Aurelius mentions (dark) blue " indicus "
(Ord. Rom., xv. c. 24; Mus. Ital., ii. 462), and
the word occurs in the Statutes of Wells (Lambeth
Library MS., No. 729), which apparently prescribe
this colour throughout Lent, with white at the
dedication of a church, and on St. John Evan-
gelist's day, and with green on Confessors' days.
On Good Friday the deacon and subdeacon wore
purple. "De Inde" and "indicus" (indigo) occur
at Canterbury (Dart., App. vii. x.) ; one chasuble
was of green and blue.
Archbishop Scrope rode on his way to death in
" blodia chirntera cum manicis ; et caputio jacincti
coloris " (Ang. Sac., ii. 370). William of Wykeham
bequeathed a chasuble and 30 copes "de blodio
panno cum historia de Jesse," which connects the
colour apparently wth feasts of St. Mary. "Indicus"
colour occurs at St. Paul's (Dugdale, 209, 211, 216).
I have met also with "caeruleus" and " Venetus."
The following notes are from an unpublished in-
ventory of Westminster Abbey : —
" A payr of Curteynns of blewe sarcynett for Myghel-
mas-Daye.
" One blewe sudary, with strayks, onfrynged; albes of
blewe and other collers servyng for Confessors [days].
" Blewe and grene copes [the former having (1) a
Jesse, (2) the Salutation, (3) a crowned M would seem to
have served on feasts of St. Mary V. Perhaps blue and
green were used indifferently].
" 2 copes of purple bawdekyn, servyng for Seynt Law-
rence day.
" 3 copeys of blewe sarcenet, a chezabull, 2 tunycles,
3 albes, 2 stolys, and 3 phanams servying for Myghelmas
day.
" 2 copes of blewe bawdkyn .... which serve for som
confessors.
" A cope of purpull for Good Fryday.
" Durham a suytte of blue satten of requiem " (Archceol.,
xlii. 48).
MACKENZIE E. C. WALCOTT.
" SOLIDARITY " (5th S. i. 347), says Archbishop
Trench (English, Past and Present, p. 118, 6th ed.),
is " a word which we owe to the French communists,
and which signifies a fellowship in gain or loss,
in honour and dishonour, in victory and defeat,
a being, so to speak, all in the same bottom." This
meaning is a secondary one, and the word is, I
think, of much older date than the French Revo-
lution or the Commune. It is a well-known law
term, used throughout the Code Napoleon (see, for
instance, § 1197, etseq.) to express what the Scotch
call a joint and several obligation, and the civilians
an obligatio in solidum, that is, an obligation under
which all and each of several debtors is bound for
the whole debt. When it was first introduced, I
cannot say. Pothier constantly uses the word
solidairement, and the expression obligation soli-
daire; but instead of solidarite he has solidite,
which Evans translates " solidity." I have not Dr.
Brown's Horce Subsecivce beside me, and cannot,
therefore, refer to the passage to which JABEZ
alludes, but in itself there seems to be no mal-
apropism in the expression " solidarity of binocular
vision." D. M.
I believe this word first came into current use in
England after a speech made by Kossuth when he
was here a few years ago, in which he spoke of
" the solidarity of nations." The newspapers next
morning took up the expression, and it gradually
became acclimatized. H. A. B.
" AND SHOOK THEIR CHAINS," &c. (5th S. i. 387.)
— This passage is one line in Congreve's Mourning
Bride, Act i. sc. 4 : —
" And shook his chains in transport and rude harmony."
# *
" THY LIQUID NOTES," &c. (5th S. i. 439.)— These
lines are in Milton's First Sonnet. LYTTELTON.
ST. PAUL AND PLINY (5th S. i. 203.)— Is it
possible that the very peculiar parallelism pointed
out by MR. TEW may be accounted for by the
apostle's epistle having been seen by Pliny? We
know that he was much acquainted with the
opinions and observances of the early Christians ;
and if it is correct to date the writing of the
apostle's epistle A.D. 64, and the death of Pliny
A.D. 113, there would seem to have been, in all
probability, opportunities for St. Paul's letter
coming to the knowledge of Pliny. W. H.
Norwich.
PILCROW (5th S. i. 388.) — Probable corruption. -
of paragraph. Conf. Nares, Gouldman, Cotgrave,
Minsheu ; and Prompt. Parv. under " Pylcrafte."
E. S. CHARNOCK.
Gray's Inn.
This word is generally understood by printers
to denote the commencement of a paragraph. But
as Lasset says —
" Why a peel-crow here ? "
or how it originated is not so easy to determine. I
am not, however, willing to believe, with the above
writer, that —
" A scare-crow had been better,"
Beaumont and Fletcher style it " peel-crow," and
Minsheu considers it to be corrupted from "para-
graphus — contractum videtur corruptumq. ex para-
grapho, vi igitur paragraphe," &c. According to
5th S. I. JCNB 20, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
493
Tusser, this character was used to arrest the
attention of the reader to some particular passage
in his work, as —
" In husbandry matters, where pilcrow ye find,
That verse appertaineth to husbandry kind."
Again : —
"A lesson how to confer every abstract with his moueth,
And how to find out huswifery verses by the pilcrow."
W. WINTERS.
Waltham Abbey.
" CUT HIS STICK " (5th S. i. 386.)— I have heard
the phrase explained as follows by a venerable old
lady, a pre-revolution Virginian. When a Negro
ran away, he was supposed in every case to cut a
great stick to help him along. I have also heard
that formerly it was not uncommon to head news-
paper advertisements about runaway slaves with a
woodcut of an excessively black man striding along
with a stick and a bundle over his shoulder.
K. W. M.
[See "N. & Q.," 2"d S. viii. 413, 478; ix. 53, 207 ; 3rd
S. xi. 397 ; xii. 137.]
" VALET " AS A VERB (5th S. i. 366.)— We may
hope that '' to valet " is not, " for the future, a re-
cognized verb." But service, like every other class
and calling, has its argot and its idioms, some of
which, as the word Missis, are audible even in the
upper air, while others are seldom heard beyond
the kitchen and the servants' hall. ' I, however,
having at times been privileged to use —
" That chink in the world above,
Where they listen for words from below,"
can testify that the verb to valet is one of these
latter. " I valetted Mr. " implies that the
speaker was pro hdc vice a body-servant ; and
even a female servant will say " I had to valet
him," if she has ..been waiting on a gentleman, —
brushing his clothes, or the like. A. J. M.
Surely " cook " is a recognized verb in the
English language 1 HERMENTRUDE.
I heard the expression " to valet " used in good
society at least twenty years ago, but I never con-
sidered it good English. I remember being asked,
when staying at a friend's house, which, out of
several footmen, was the man who " valetted " me?
The phrase appeared to me a bit of fashionable
slang. W. J. BERNHARD SMITH.
Temple.
I heard this word used as a verb neuter nearly
sixty years ago. An innkeeper in Nottingham, who
had been one of the Earl of Moira's gamekeepers,
had " valetted for Mr. Moore, the poet," when he
was visiting at Donnington Hall. This person's
surname was " Brummitt," and he rejoiced in the
very peculiar Christian name " Dowager."
ELLCEE.
Craven.
"SERPENS NISI SERPENTEM," &c. (5th S. i. 160.)
— In Basilii Fabri Thesaurus JSruditionis
Scholastics, Hagae-Comitum, 1735, I find the
quotation thus given (vol. i., p. 817) : — " O^>ts vj p.rj
(fray?] o(f>iv, SpaKiav ov yevryo-eTcu, Serpens nisi
devoret serpentem, nonfiet draco, i.e., Potentes non
crescunt, nisi damnis aliorum."
It is given as a proverb in vol. ii., p. 659, where
" fit " is substituted for "fiet," and this explanation
given, " Potentes crescunt aliorum damnis." In
both places you are directed " vide Chiliadas."
" Serpens ni edat Serpentem, Draco non fiet" is
the form in which it appears in the Adagia of
Erasmus. SPARKS H. WILLIAMS.
18, Kensington Crescent, W.
See the passage in Bacon's Essays, " Of Fortune " :
" The folly of one man is the fortune of another ; for
no man prospers so suddenly as by other's errors ; serpens,
nisi serpentem comederit, non fit draco. "
JOHN PIKE.
ETYMOLOGY OF " BUTTERFLY " (3rd S. ii 29.) —
Sara Coleridge, in one of her letters (Memoir,
vol. i. p. 102) says as follows : —
" Two doctors (Johnson and Webster) have derived
butterfly from butter, one because these flies come in
butter season (they come from March to November, and
what is bv.tter season), and the other because a very
common butterfly ia yellow ! No, no, the vox populi
that makes language is a much more accurate reporter
of nature, and of all truth, than a guessing writer of
books. Butterflies are letter flies, larger flies, the largest
sort of flies that you meet with."
JOHN CHURCHILL SIKES.
Lichfield House, Anerley Park, Norwood.
JEWISH DISH (5th S. i. 426.)— I beg to inform
your readers that this dish is used for placing the
three Passover biscuits and bitter herbs in the
domestic first nights' services of the Hagadah, of
which liturgy each Jew has a copy. The Durham
platter belonged to Sanvil (i. e., Samuel), son of
Beer Schlitta of Gross - Simmern, twenty -six
English miles north of Kreuznach, and fourteen
English miles east of Oberwesel. Herr Voigtlander's
Map of Environs of Bad- Kreuznach (Wagner in
Darmstadt) gives an Ebernburg near Munster am
Stein (vide Murray), three English miles off. Also
a Klein Simmern and Hoher Simmern, three
English miles south-east of Kirn on same Khein-
Nahe Railway. Frau Schlitta was named Eamel (]),
daughter of Jacob of this place. The Chadgadja
is, according to Prof. Delitzsch (Zur Gesch. der
Juedisch. Poesie, ch. 17, Leipz., 1836), a seventeenth-
century paraphrase of a Christian-German folk-song,
allegorized by Herman van der Hardt, the local
mountain range (vide my MS. translation in
Library University College, Gower Street, London).
The double-tailed lion is in accordance with the
prohibition of representing existing animal forms
(Decalogue) ; but lions with three or five legs are
even embroidered in the synagogue ark-curtains.
494
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5th 8. I. JUNE 20, 74.
Query, did the Nineveh five-footed bulls originate
this permission ? Mr. Eeady, antique-modeller of
the British Museum, has a similar platter, with the
four Exodus verbs (vi. 6-7), " I will bring out,"
" I will rid," " I will redeem," " I will take," in
token of which four glasses of wine are drunk by
each Jew on each of the above night services.
Probably the special crockery used by the Jews
for this Passover week was augmented by a metal
cake platter, to be used only on these occasions, and
handed down as an heirloom. S. M. DRACH.
74, Offord Road, Barnsbury, N.
SHELLEY'S TITLES TO POEMS (5th S. i. 445.) —
Your correspondent N. has been singularly unfor-
tunate in consulting four lexicons without finding
so well-known a word as aAao-rwp, which is
common enough in the Greek tragic poets, and
may be found in any of the lexicons in common
use (as Passow, Liddell and Scott, Donnegan, &c.).
His friend's proposed derivation of the word from
" a 1'Astre " was probably intended as a joke (in
my humble opinion, rather a poor one). As to the
meaning of Shelley's word, epipsychidion, I confess
it is not by any means " clear enough" to my under-
standing, but surely its derivation is simple and
obvious enough, viz., from eirl and ^vyioiov (dimi-
nutive of "/^x9?)' The presence in any of N.'s four
lexicons of a substantive i'Stov derived from the verb
t'Seiv (of course he means iSeu/) would be as great a
novelty in lexicography as the absence of such a
word as aAacrrcop. FR. NORGATE.
Your correspondent N. is right as to the deriva-
tion of A lastor. It is from a, the negative prefix,
and XaO, the primitive root of A^$o/xcu and A.O.V-
$avo//,cu, " to forget," the final letter 6 of the
said root being changed by rule to s before the r
of the ending rwp, i. e., dAao-rwp, instead of
0.-XdO-T(Dp (cf. 7T610-T€OS, from 7T6l'#-to, for 7T610-
reos, &c.). It therefore means the unforgetting,
and was applied in the first place to a relentless
avenging power, which was supposed to pursue the
guilty, and secondly to the accursed wretch him-
self who was thus pursued. Omitting the idea of
" guilt," Shelley uses the term to describe " the
spirit of solitude," an unseen resistless force acting
upon the soul of the poet, which, " like the fierce
fiend of a distempered dream, shook him from his
rest, and led him forth into the darkness," driving
him ever onward with unremitting energy.
With regard to epipsychidion, N. is egregiously
mistaken in referring the latter part of the word
to the verb iSetv (not t'Seiv), to see, and in suppos-
ing the existence of such a word as toiov, a glance.
"tyv^iSiov is a diminutive of ^X^i anc^ means a
little, soul, i. e. (as a term of endearment) a beloved
soul. Hence '^Tri-^v^-iSiov is a poem addressed
to one whom Shelley regarded as a part of his own
soul (cf. animce dimidium mece, Hor. Od. i., 3, 8)i
This is evident from the poem itself, e. g. —
" I am not thine ; I am a part of thee."
Or again : —
" Are we not formed, as notes of music are,
For one another, though dissimilar ? "
" We shall become the same, we shall be one
Spirit within two frames/' &c.
C. S. JERRAM.
DOT OVER THE " i " (4th S. xi. 504.)— I find two
references to this query, but, to my mind, tlfey
seem to be antagonistic. The first is from a note
in Long Ago, vol. i. p. 276, " The Phoenicians in
Britain," where it is stated, " I, i, is the ' eye,'
which is indicated by the small dot." D'Israeli, in
detecting a " literary forgery " (Cur. of Lit., vol. iii.
p. 307, edition 1867), says, " Besides that, there
were dots on the letter i, a custom not practised
till the eleventh century." The first quotation
clearly indicates that the dot was used from the
earliest times. G. LAURENCE GOMME.
"Ax ESSAY TOWARD THE PROOF OF A SE-
PARATE STATE," &c. (4th S. xii. 448.) — The author
was Isaac Watts, D.D. The World to Come was
first published in 1731, in the Preface to which the
Doctor says : —
"The Treatise (i.e., the Essay), which is set as an
introduction to this Book, was printed many years ago
without the Author's name."
JNO. A. FOWLER.
P.S.— My copy is KeUy's edition, 1815.
55, London Road, Brighton.
DUPLICATES IN THE BRITISH MUSEUM (4th S.
x. 332, 399, 479.)— In the Annual Register of
1767, at p. 81, under date of April 15th, it is
stated that His Majesty went to the House of
Peers, and gave the royal assent to the following,
amongst other Bills, viz. : —
" The Bill to enable the trustees of the Museum to
exchange, sell, or dispose of, any duplicates of books,
medals, coins, &c., and to purchase others in lieu thereof."
The copy of Fullers Church History of Britain,
which in my query I mentioned as being stamped
with " Museum Britannicum " and " Duplicate for
Sale, 1767," must therefore have been one of tho
first lots marked for disposal, under the Act of
Parliament authorizing such sales. When I ex-
amined the book noted, it was in the Public
Library at Charleston, South Carolina.
CRESCENT.
Wimbledon.
TURNER'S "ILLUSTRATED SHAKESPEARE" (5th
S. i. 407.) — This is no doubt the very fine set of
atlas folio volumes sold some ten years ago, and
purchased by the Earl of Ellesmere, and now
preserved at Bridgewater House. ESTE.
ERRORS OF THE PRESS (5th S. i. 365.) — Permit
me to express agreement with MR. SALA as to the
amusement to be got from a collection of printers'
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blunders. I recollect many years ago a Hampshire
paper announcing that Sir E. Peel and a party of
fiends were engaged shooting peasants at Drayton
Manor ; and Tom Hood had some verses on the
subject : —
" But it 's frightful to think
AVhat nonsense sometimes
They make of one's sense,
And what 's worse, of one's rhymes.
It was only last week,
In my Ode upon Spring,
Which I meant to have made
A most beautiful thing,
When I talked of the dew-drops
From freshly-blown roses,
The nasty things made it
From freshly-blown noses.
And again, when to please
An old aunt, I had tried
To commemorate some saint
Of her clique who had died,
I said he had taken up
In heaven his position,
And they put it — he'd taken
Up to heaven his physician."
There is also a story about the printer being led
astray, which tells against the cacography of the
writer. The late Horace Greeley, famous for the
shortcomings of his handwriting, had occasion,
during the Presidential election, to expose some
Congressional frauds, and quoted the line, —
" 'Tis true, 'tis pity — pity 'tis, 'tis true" —
the line by the way said to be equal to a florin,
because there are four tizzies in it. On receiving
proof, the President in prospectu was struck dumb
with astonishment as he read —
'"Tis two, 'tis fifty — and fifty 'tis, 'tis five."
Moral : it is possible that the printers are not
always the culpable parties. W. T. M.
Shinfield Grove.
The " blunder fiend " suggested by MR. SALA
has been heard of before, and in London too.
Franklin, in his Life, telling of his experience as
a compositor in London, about 1726, says : —
"At the end of a few weeks, Watts, having occasion
for me above stairs as a compositor, I quitted the press.
The compositors demanded of me garnish money afresh.
This I considered as an imposition, having already paid
below. The master was of the same opinion, and desired
me not to comply. I remained thus for two or three
weeks out of the fraternity. I was consequently looked
upon as excommunicated ; and whenever I was absent
no little trick that malice could suggest was left un-
practised upon me. I found my letters mixed, my
pages transposed, my matter broken, &c., all of which
was attributed to the spirit that haunted the chapel, and
tormented those who were not regularly admitted.''
— And in a note to the word " chapel " —
" Printing-houses, in general, are thus denominated by
the workmen; the spirit they call by the name of
Ralph."
W. H. PATTERSON.
I have seen
" All people that on earth do dwell,"
turned into this —
" All people that on earth do well."
C. F. S. WARREN, M.A.
THE POPULATION Two HUNDRED YEARS AGO
(5th S. i. 387.)— In the third chapter of Macaulay's
England, A. will find much of the information he
requires. Lord Macaulay states the following as
the largest towns : —
London (1685) 530,000
Bristol (1685) 29,000
Norwich (1693) ... 28 or 29,000
York and Exeter ... 10,000
Worcester and Nottingham 8,000
Shrewsbury 7,000
The authorities quoted by Lord Macaulay seem
only incidentally to refer to the number of inhabi-
tants. E. PASSINGHAM.
No trustworthy information in answer to A.'s in-
quiry is to be found. Previous to the census of 1801
there existed no official returns of the populations
of England or Scotland, or of Ireland before 1813.
Eesearches into the population of England and
Wales, deduced from baptisms and burials, be-
tween the years 1570 and 1750 inclusive, were
made by Mr. Hickman, and given by him in the
Preface to the Census Eeturns of 1841, pp. 36, 37.
WILLIAM BLOOD.
Liverpool.
ADAM'S FIRST WIFE (5th S. i. 387.)— Lilith is
the same as the Lilis in the accompanying
extract : —
" Bekker relates an instance of exorcism practised by
the modern Jews to avert the evil influence of the demon
Lilis, whom the Rabbis esteem to be the wife of Satan.
During the hundred and thirty years, says Rabbi Elias,
in his Thisbi, which elapsed before Adam was married to
Eve, he was visited by certain she devils, of whom the
four principal were Lilis, Naome, Ogere, and Machalas ;
these, from their commerce with him, produced a fruit-
ful progeny of spirits. Lilis still continues to visit the
chambers of women recently delivered, and endeavours
to kill their babes, if boys, on the eighth day, if girls, on
the twenty-first, after their birth. In order to chase her
away, the attendants describe circles on the walls of the
chamber with charcoal, and within each they write,
' Adam, Eve, Lilis, avaunt ! ' On the door also of the
chamber they write the names of the three angels who
preside over medicine, — Senoi, Sansenoi, and Sanman-
gelof, — a secret which it appears was taught them, some-
what unwittingly, by Lilis herself. (Le Monde Enchante,
i. 12, § 14; 13, § 8)."— The Occult Sciences, p. 173.
J. C. CLOUGH.
Tiverton.
Voltaire speaks of " Lilian, Adam's second wife,
according to the ancient Eabbis." See also Blount's
Glossog., quoting Glossa Talm. in Nidda, fol. 24,
b. ; Bailey (Diet.} ; Ash (Diet.), quoting Scott
(Eeginald Scot ?) ; Gesenius under JT1?'1?.
E. S. CHARNOCK.
Gray's Inn.
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5* S. I. JUNE 20, 74.
This legend is said to be contained in the
Jewish Cabbala; I quote 'the following from a
little book, entitled The Autobiography of Satan: —
"According to the Cabbalistic doctrine, God created
four female devilings : Lilith, who, under the name of
Eve, appeared in being with Adam, who, however,
separated from her on account of her bad temper;
whereupon he married the real Eve, who had been
formed out of one of his ribs."
Perhaps the hint for this tradition was furnished
in Gen., chap. i. v. 27. W. B. C.
Lilith is known, I think, both in the Hebrew
and in the Arabian mythology. Supernatural
herself, she was, by Adam, the mother of a super-
natural brood. She appears at the Walpurgis-
night scene in Goethe's Faust, and is thus men-
tioned by Mephistophiles in Shelley's translation : —
" Lilith the first wife of Adam.
Beware of her fair hair, for she excels
All women in the magic of her locks ;
And when she winds them round a young man's neck,
She will not ever set him free again."
E. YARDLEY.
Temple.
WHITSUNTIDE (5th S. i. 401.) — In confirmation
of the reality of the origin assigned, I appeal to the
term Whitsun-Sunday, which, in our northern
counties, assumes the form of Whissun-Sunday, as
still prevalent among the less educated to indicate
the more modern Whit-Sunday. It is quite con-
ceivable how, of two identical syllables, one came at
last to be considered superfluous, and how, when the
real origin of the word was forgotten, that which
at first was written and pronounced Whitsun-ddy
yielded to the present Whit-Sunday, a form by
which the true etymology is unfortunately con-
cealed. W. B. C.
SPECHYNS (5th S. i. 428.) — The following is the
probable solution of the word. Speiche, in German,
signifies a dart, ray, or spike ; the French equiva-
lents given by Schcebel being " pointe, rayon, rais,'
and the Latin spica, diminutive spiculum. The
scraps of sheep-skin, &c., used in the manufacture
of glue at Hexham, may have been fixed on spikes
and the meadows called the Crokyt Spechyns, or
Crooked Spikes, must have had their name from
the stakes to which the nets were attached.
WM. BROCKIE.
Olive Street, Sunderland.
THE "SILVER OAR" (5th S. i. 428.)— I once
knew an officer of the Court of Admiralty who
bore this designation. He was executive officer o
the Court, and, probably, this was the badge o
office in old times, bearing some analogy to a mar-
shal's baton, or a steward's wand of office.
E. DENNY URLIN, M.RI.A.
Dublin.
A JEW'S WILL (5th S. i. 449.)— The thre
equests in the above will all apply to th
' Sepharim," or scrolls of the law, used in the
Jewish service, the cloak being a covering of
elvet or silk, which is placed over the scroll,
ivhich is rolled round two handles of ivory or
wood, the tops of which, projecting through two
loles in the cloak, are crowned with two tubes or
small towers of gold or silver, round which are
mng very small bells, which jingle at the slightest
movement.
The Jew alluded to, doubtless being a foreigner,
said " the best laws," instead of " the best books
or scrolls of the Law." I may as well mention here
;hat these " Sepharim " are very costly ; as, besides
the cloak' and bells, they consist of the Five Books
of Moses, written in Hebrew by hand, and they
;annot be used if a single mistake exists in them.
D. G.
In answer to H. T. E., the words, " the best
laws," contained in the will of the wealthy Jew to
whom H. T. E. refers, relate positively to scrolls
of the Law of the best quality. It is usual for
Jews to have in their synagogues a great number
of scrolls, the parchments of some of which are of
superior quality to others, and It is probable that
the testator was desirous of leaving his son the
most beautiful of the sacred documents. When
the scrolls of the Law are taken from the Holy
Ark, in which they are usually kept, they are,
when the finances of the synagogue permit .it,
adorned with silver bells, and the Jew to whom
H. T. E. refers in his note was doubtless possessed
of a great many. When the reading of the Law
takes place the bells and mantles ornamenting the
scrolls are removed and put aside. Beyond this
the bells are used for no other purpose.
ADOLPHTJS ROSENBERG.
Miniature silver bells are used to ornament the
rollers on which the scrolls are fixed, and it is pro-
bable that the " cloak," bells and " laws " mean the
bequest of a particular scroll, as every one is
encased in a sort of cloak or mantle. The " best "
may mean the most costly, as they vary in that
respect, as they do in size. GEORGE ELLIS.
St. John's Wood.
AN HERALDIC MAGAZINE (5th S. i. 444.)— I am
fully sensible of the kindness which has led SIR
JOHN MACLEAN to express in so flattering a
manner his opinion that a magazine which might
fill the place of the defunct Herald and Genealogist
would be successful under my direction.
But supposing that I possessed the qualifications
with which he kindly credits me, and could also
devote the necessary time and attention to the
editing of such a publication, I fear SIR JOHN
MACLEAN has much over-estimated the probabi-
lities of its pecuniary success, And consequent
vitality. There is good reason for believing that
the Herald and Genealogist was at no time a source
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of profit to its late learned and laborious conductor,
though he possessed facilities for its printing and
illustration which could scarcely be combined
under a new editorship.
I therefore venture to suggest that the scope of
the Miscellanea Genealogica et Heraldica might
be easily, and profitably, enlarged so as to include
most, if not all, of the particular features which
gave to the Herald and Genealogist its special
value in the eyes of the historian and antiquarian.
But if, for any reason, this cannot be, there is little
doubt that whenever the demand for such a pub-
lication is sufficient to afford, either to myself or to
others more competent, a modest remuneration for
the necessary labour, perhaps even a reasonable
giiarantee against pecuniary loss, the article re-
quired v/ill be quickly forthcoming.
JOHN WOODWARD.
The Parsonage, Montrose, N.B.
HENRY MASERS DE LATUDE (5th S. i. 424.) —
H. H. quotes the certificate of "Jean-Henri's"
birth from Jal's Dictionnaire, but without making
the correction which Jal made. Everybody who
reads " N. & Q." will wonder what " fille " means
as applied to Jean-Henri. In the second edition
of his Dictionnaire, Jal corrects this to " fils": see
Errata, p. 1332. H. H. spells " Jean Bonhour,"
but it is spelled " Bouhour " by Jal. There is an
account of '; De Latude's " escape from the Bastille
in Charles Knight's Half-Hours iviih the Best
Authors, but not a word is said as to Latude not
being his name, and he is described as " of a
respectable family in Languedoc." For list of
works falsely attributed to him, see Qu^rard's
Supercheries Litteraires. OLPHAR HAMST.
DR. GUILLOTIN (5th S. i. 426.)— The truth of
the story seems to be that Dr. Joseph Ignatius
Guillotin suggested to the Legislative Assembly in
1789 that capital punishment should be the same
for all classes. A Monsieur Louis, secretary to the
" Academic de Chirurgie," submitted, 20th March,
1792, a machine invented by him, " sure, quick,
and uniform." On the 25th April in that year
Pelletier, a highway robber, was the first who suf-
fered death by it. Dangremont was the first
political victim, 21st August, same yea,r. Guil-
lotin, therefore, did not invent it, and did not die
by it; he lived tiU 1814. See Haydn's Dic-
tionary of Dates. C. A. WARD.
Mayfair.
"CANADA" (4th S. xii. 86, 176; 5th S. i. 97.)—
In the learned correspondence between Duponceau
and Heckewelder on the subject of the Indian
languages of America, the origin of the name of
Canada is discussed. This correspondence took
place in the year 1816, and is printed in vol. i. of
the Historical and Literary Transactions of the
American Philoso%)hical Society. As this volume
may not be accessible to your readers, I will give a
few extracts. Duponceau says: —
" In reading some time ago one of the Gospels (I think
St. Mark's) in one of the Iroquois dialects, said to be
translated by the celebrated chief, Captain Brandt, I
observed the word town was translated into Indian by
the word kanada, and it struck me that the name of the
province of Canada might probably have been derived
Irom it."
After some further observations, he concludes
by asking his friend Heckewelder his opinion of
this etymology. Heckewelder, in reply, says : —
" In looking over some of Zeisberger's papers, who was
well acquainted with the language of the Onondagoes,
the principal dialect of the Iroquois, to which nation
the Mohawks belong, I find he translates the German
word stadt (town) into the Onondago by ' ganataje.'
Now, as you well know that the Germans sometimes
employ the g instead of the Jc, and the t instead of the d,
it is very possible that the word Kanada may mean the
same thing in some grammatical form of the Mohawk
dialect. As you have seen it so employed in Captain
Brandt's translation, there cannot be the least doubt
about it. This being taken for granted, it is not impro-
bable that you have hit upon the true etymology of the
name Canada."
After giving some account of the peculiarities of
the Indians in applying names, Heckewelder con-
cludes : —
" So that it is highly probable that the' Frenchman who>
first asked of the Indians in Canada the name of their
country, pointing to the spot and to the objects which
surrounded him, received for answer Kanada (town, or
village), and believed it to be the name of the whole
region, and reported it so to his countrymen, who con-
sequently gave to their newly-acquired dominions the
name of Canada."
I need hardly add that both these writers are of
the highest authority on our Indian languages.
Castier seems to be the first to encounter the
name and the territory of Canada, in his second
voyage to America in 1635. He found the name
on the St. Lawrence river applied to the dominions
of an Indian chief, who ruled over what is now
Quebec and Montreal. The Iroquois Indians were
then dwelling there, or Indians speaking a dialect
of the Iroquois language. The name Canada
appears on a map of America made in France in
the year 1543. C. W. TUTTLE.
Boston, U.S.A.
PENN PEDIGREE' (5th S. i. 129, 315.)— I have
in my possession an old high-backed chair, with
the following inscription attached to it by my late
father : —
" This chair originally belonged to Sir William Penn,
Admiral during the Protectorate of Oliver Cromwell,
and Charles 2nd. It was also in the possession of his
son, William Penn, founder of Pennsylvania, born in
London the 14 October, 1644, and died at Ruscome, in
Berkshire, England, 30th July, 1718, aged 74."
The chair came through the family of Inman,
of Ballybritain, King's County, to Mary, daughter
of William Miller, of Lurgan, and widow of Francis
White, and aunt to my mother. On her decease,
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5th S. I. JUNE 20, '74.
18 Dec., 1847, it was purchased at the auction
by my father. Mention being made of the Gordon
and Jones families, I thought that the Inmans
might be some connexions of theirs, and thereby
account for the truth of the statement on the
inscription. As your querist conjectures, there
may be the record of a marriage settlement, and if
so, it would, I fancy, be found in the Registry of
Deeds Office, Dublin. WM. JACKSON PIGOTT.
Dundrum, co. Down.
C. OWEN, OF WARRINGTON (1st S. viii. 492 ;
5th S. i. 90, 157.)— " I'll say nothing here of their
jrovSacra in and about Manchester." I find in
Stephens's Thesaurus Linguce Gr., ed. a Valpy,
that Trov8r) was sometimes used for cnrovS-r), and
TovSaa-a may have been substituted for ecnrov8a(ra
(onrovSy StcoKtov Tro/j-TTi/JLOvs ^voas TroStov) by a
religious party as a motto, similar to the designa-
tion of a club in more recent times — " Nobody's
Friends." See Archdeacon Churton's Life of
Joseph Watson. " As it was Stevens's custom to
speak of several of his friends under some familiar
appellation, which had a significant meaning of its
own, so he made sport with himself, not without
an earnest meaning combined, by calling himself
by the name of ' Nobody.' "
BlBLIOTHECAR. CHETHAM.
JEWISH SUPERSTITIONS (5th S. i. 204, 255.) —
Gamaliel Ben Pedahzur, in his Jewish Ceremonies,
p. 68, says, "Then they jump three times with
both feet from the ground, and say three times,
As well as I jump towards thee," &c. Hyam Isaacs
remarks (Ceremonies and Customs of the Jews,
p. 61), " It is surprising to see with what earnest-
ness they bow and leap towards the moon." The
Christian superstition of bowing to the moon is
north of England and Scotch, to my knowledge.
SENNACHERIB.
"LIKE "AS A CONJUNCTION AND SUBSTANTIVE
(5th S. i. 67, 116, 157, 176, 237.)— The Irish pea-
santry constantly use the expression " like he,"
which has been adopted by the learned critic of
the Athen(eum. They also frequently turn the
adjective into a substantive, saying, " I never saw
the like," " Would you wish tp have the like said
of you 1 " &c. Bad as these expressions sound,
they seem far less offensive to an educated or a
musical ear than the expressions in East Lynne
and the Athenceum. HIBERNIA.
MORTIMERS, LORDS OF WIGMORE (5th S. i. 188,
234, 358, 476.)— The Prince whom Anne Mor-
timer married was never Duke of York, since he
died before his elder brother. He bore his father's
second title of Earl of Cambridge. " De Mortuo
Mari" is the invariable rendering of the family
name in all contemporary Latin records.
HERMENTRUDE.
• " DESIER" (5th S. i. 148, 214, 355.)— The writer
who asserts that a lady living in the eighth century
was named "Desideria-Desiderata" is surely draw-
ing on his own imagination, or making some
strange blunder. The daughter of Desiderius, and
wife of Charlemagne, was named Hermengarde,
as may be ascertained by referring to any good
history of France, or to Dreux du Radier's
Memoires des Reines et Regentes.
HERMENTRUDE.
SIR PHILIP SIDNEY'S "ARCADIA" (5th S. i.
269, 353, 396.)— I have a copy of the edition
referred to at page 353. It was published by
subscription, and dedicated to the Princess of
Wales. The name of the printer is not given.
EDMUND TEW, M.A.
THE WATERLOO AND PENINSULAR MEDALS
(5th S. i. 47, 98. 136, 217, 235, 336, 378, 396, 438,
458.)— The only point of interest is — whether
the grant of the Waterloo Medal " extended
generally to the civil departments " of the army.
I have read nothing to change my opinion that it
did not, and shall refrain from continuing the
discussion. W. DILKE.
Chichester.
" THAT SANGUINE FLOWER," &c. (5th S. i. 260,
414.) — I suggest that the hyacinth of the ancients,
to which Milton refers, was the Lilium Martagon,
or Turk's cap lily. This flower has marks on its
petals which by some stretch of fancy may be read
AI. Neither the Hyacinthus scriptus nor the
Hyacinthus non scriptus has these marks.
F. STORR.
EXTRAORDINARY BIRTH OF TRIPLETS (5th S. i.
249, 313, 454.) — TEWARS is quite accurate in
stating that Cromwell's" Injunction for keeping
registers of christenings, marriages, and burials,
was only issued in 1538 ; nevertheless, not a few
contain entries of an earlier date. I have met with
several, and Burn (Hist, of Parish Registers,
pp. 12-14) mentions many others, the earliest, I
think, in 1528. It so happens, however, according
to the Parish Register Abstract with the Census
Returns of 1831, that the parish registers of Ang-
mering, Sussex, do not commence until 1562, which
is quite conclusive against the three valiant knights
so far as the record of their baptisms is concerned.
JOHN MACLEAN.
Hammersmith.
LEYDEN UNIVERSITY (5th S. i. 368, 453.)— The
Album mentioned by MR. PEACOCK will be pub-
lished on the 8th of February next year, the day
of the foundation of the University 300 years ago.
In the list of students will appear the name of
Milton, a fact which may show Milton's close
acquaintance with the Dutch language, and give a
clue to some of his quotations from Vondel's
Lucifer. A. B.
5"" S. I. JUNE 20, 74.]
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NOTES ON BOOKS, &c.
The '' Geste Hisloriale" of the Destruction of Troy; an
Alliterative Romance, translated from Guido de Co-
lonna's Historic*, Trojana. Now first printed from the
Unique MS. in the Hunterian Museum, University of
Glasgow, with Introduction, Notes, and a Glossary by
the late Rev. George A. Panton, and David Donaldson,
Esq. Part II.
Cursor Mundi (The Cursur of the World}. A Northum-
brian Poem of the Fourteenth Century in Four Ver-
sions, Two of them Midland; from Cotton MS. Vesp.
A. iii. in the Library of the British Museum ; Fairfax
MS. 11 in the Bodleian Library; MS. Theol. 107
in the Gottingen University Library ; MS. R. 3, 8, in
the Library of Trinity College, Cambridge. Edited
by the Rev. Richard Morris, LL.D., Vice-President of
the Philological Society, Editor of Hampole's Pricke
of Conscience, &c. Part I.
The Blickling Homilies of the Tenth Century. From the
Marquis of Lothian's Unique MS., A.D. 971. Edited,
with Introduction, Translation, Notes, and Index of
Words, by the Rev. R. Morris, LL.D. Part I.
WHAT a change has come over the study of our early
language and literature during the century which has
elapsed since Warton published his admirable, and still
valuable, History of English Poetry, for it is exactly one
hundred years since the first volume of it appeared !
The greatest impulse to this study was given indirectly
by the establishment of the Camden Society, the success
of which called into existence the Percy, Shakespeare,
JElfric, and other Societies, and so incidentally, when the
public mind was ripe for it, the Early English Text
Society, of which the fifty-sixth, fifty-seventh, and fifty-
eighth volumes, now before us, would have made the heart
of the accomplished Professor of Poetry beat with delight.
It would be a curious speculation how much his labours
have contributed, however remotely, to the success which
has attended the good work of Mr. Furnivall and his
brother editors.
Of the three books whose titles we have advisedly
transcribed at length, as the best means of bringing
their nature and value before our readers, the importance
of two as monuments of our early language and lite-
rature cannot be overrated ; but we wait until we receive
Dr. Morris's Prefaces to The Cursor Mundi and Blick-
ling Homilies before treating of their special claims to
attention. The third, the remarkable alliterative poem
on the Destruction of Troy, forms not only a valuable con-
tribution to our early language, but clears up a very vexed
point in the history of mediaeval literature. Though
stated in the title-page to be a translation from Guido
de Colonna, the researches of the editors, and of Mon-
sieur de Joly, the editor of the French Roman de Troie,
go to establish the fact that so far from being a translation
from Guido de Colonna's Historia Trojana, Colonna's
work, which was not completed until 1'287, was itself a
translation of the Roman de Troie, which appeared be-
tween 1175 and 1185; and that Benoit de Sainte Maur,
the author of that French metrical history, was in fact
the originator of that great mass of romantic literature
respecting the siege and destruction of Troy so widely
diffused and so popular during the Middle Ages. The
alliterative poem, here reprinted, is far from the least
interesting of the works belonging to this cycle of ro-
mance; and the thanks of the members of the Early
English Text Society are especially due to the gentlemen
by whom it has been so carefully produced, one of
whom, the Rev. George A. Panton, has, we regret to
say, not been spared to receive the praises which he has
so well earned.
British Ethnology. The Pedigree of the English People.
An Argument, Historical and Scientific, on the Forma-
tion and Growth of the Nation ; tracing Race Admixture
in Britain, from the Earliest Times, with especiiil re-
ference to the Incorporation of the Celtic Aborigines.
By Thomas Nicholas, M.A., Ph.D., &c. (Longmans
& Co.)
To the above title are added the words, " Fourth Edition."
In those words may be recognized the appreciation by
the public of Dr. Nicholas's valuable labours. He is the
successful champion and advocate of the Celtic race.
He shows that at least half of the subjects of the early
Anglian and Saxon kingdoms must have been of the
" British " race. He traces " race-amalgamation " with
great care and ability; and few will differ from his
conclusion that "the English people embraces a much
larger infusion of Ancient British blood than English
historians have been accustomed to recognize." The
book is a most important contribution to the history of
Britain, as well as to ethnology especially. From first
to last Dr. Nicholas secures the interest of his readers
by the force of his argument and the attractiveness of
his style.
OLD ST. PANCRAS CHURCHYARD.— R. B. P. writes : —
" Eight years ago you wrote the following lines in re-
ference to the churchyard of old St. Pancras :— ' It is
with the greatest regret we learn that this hallowed
historic spot, venerable as the resting-place, since the
Anglo-Saxon era, of so many renowned and noble
memories, is now being desecrated by the Midland Rail-
way Company, by the formation of a tunnel beneath the
graves, and a high construction, on arches, for the trains
to rumble over the tombs of the mute occupants sleeping
till the resurrection in God's own acre ' ('N. & Q.,' 3rd
S. ix. 534). But a far greater danger now menaces
this venerable churchyard, for it is threatened with
entire obliteration, and the Bill empowering the Railway
Company to absolutely acquire this and the adjoining
parochial cemetery of St. Giles for building purposes
has already passed the Commons. I believe that the
churchyards are not specifically mentioned in the Bill ;
the Company only ask for powers to take the land lying
between certain boundaries, which boundaries are those
of the two churchyards. 'N. & Q.' contains many
notices of this ancient churchyard, and of the celebrities
interred there. A list is given on the page from which
the foregoing extract is taken. I mention a few. Jeremy
Collier, the sturdy Nonjuror and castigator of a de-
moralized drama ; Timothy Cunningham, author of the
Law Dictionary; Chevalier d'Eon, the night-errant of
the last century ; Archer Richard Dillon, Archbishop of
Narbonne, with seven bishops expelled from France, and
several of the French marshals ; Flaxman, the sculptor ;
James Leoni, architect; Father O'Leary, the amiable
friar of the Order of St. Francis; General Pascal de
Paoli ; Samuel Francis Ravenet, engraver; John Walker,
lexicographer ; Samuel Webbe, musical composer ; Wil-
liam Woollett, engraver. The St. Giles's burial-ground
is not so interesting historically, as it is not ancient, but
it contains the remains of Sir John Soane. You will, I
trust, permit me this opportunity of urging upon those
who have it in their power to control events to prevent
this wanton desecration of one of the oldest churchyards
in London."
ANTIQUARIAN DISCOVERY AT STEEPLE ASTON. — Im-
mediately south of Steeple Aston Church there is a
block of buildings, partly occupied as a farm-house,
dairy, &c., partly by Wodham, the parish clerk, partly
by the rector's coachman, and partly by an aged widow.
The latter portion and another cottage immediately ad-
joining are portions of venerable antiquity. The site
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is that of the old manor-house, believed to be that of the
De La Mara family, who had large possessions in this
part of Oxfordshire from a period before the Conquest
to at least 1400. In 1274 the manor seems to have passed
into the possession of Robert de Romeny, as sub-lord
under the Crown, as Charles Cottrell Dormer, Esq., is at
this day under the Duke of Marlborough, as grantee
from the Crown of the office of Lord Paramount of the
Hundred of Wootton. It had become, before the close
of the seventeenth century, the property of Ferdinando
King ; and later it was, with the appurtenant open field
land, purchased by Sir Francis Page, Knight, of Middle
Aston, the hanging judge ; and, after him, it was the
property of his niece's son, Francis Page, Esq., ne Bourne,
who procured a private Act of Parliament in 1756,
whereby the Society of Brasenose College, and the rector
of the parish, for himself and his successors, consented
to be ejected from Middle Aston, as proprietors of land
and tithes there, receiving in requital the old manorial
estate of Steeple Aston proper and the mansion in ques-
tion. The manorial character of this relic of ancient
importance has been kept up by yearly Courts-leet being
held there by the successive stewards of the several
Dukes of Marlborough. These the present rector is
having improved by competent workmen, who have dis-
covered that the chimneys, floors, stairs, &c., are all com-
paratively modern incrustations, in the interior of what
was once a stately dining-hall, 32 ft. long by 20 ft. wide in
the interior, very lofty, and with an open timber roof of
elegant proportions and design. Truly the old world
passes away slowly in the rural nooks of England.
WILLIAM WING.
Steeple Aston, Oxford.
KENTISH ANTIQUIT^S.— All persons interested in this
subject will be grateful to Mr. S. W. Kershaw, the
learned and courteous librarian at the Lambeth Palace
Library, for his reprint, from the Archceologia Cantiana,
of his article on the Library generally, and on its
" Kentish Memoranda" in particular. By classifying
these memoranda under the heads of " Ecclesiastical,"
"Manorial," "Heraldic," and "Historical and Anti-
quarian," with references to the places of the books and
documents LO classified in the Archiepiscopal Library,
Mr. Kershaw has rendered a very valuable service to all
. who desire to consult more fully the Lambeth MSS. and
books.
A "NEALE MEMORIAL LIBRARY," Sackville College,
East Grinsted, which will be the property of the cor-
poration of the college of which the late Dr. J. M. Neale
was for twenty years the Warden, and in which the vast
majority of his works were written, is being formed by
Ms successor. It is intended to include a copy of every
work published by Dr. Neale. As they are more than
one hundred and forty in number, and many of the early
and minor works have become scarce, the co-operation of
friends is solicited. Address the Warden, as above.
BIBLIOGRAPHY OF THE WORKS OF THOMAS FULLER. —
Mr. J. E. Bailey (Stretford, Manchester) wishes to
receive the names of any gentlemen who, possessing any
of Fuller's rarer works, or of the literature relating to
him, would be interested in examining the printed slips
of the above bibliography, with a view of ascertaining,
before the sheets are printed, certain desiderata relating
to editions, &c., the originals of which cannot be found
in any of the public libraries.
SHORTLY before his death last summer, Thornton Hunt
placed in the hands of Mr. Townshend Mayer, of Rich-
mond, the papers of Leigh Hunt for examination and
such public use as he might deem expedient. Amongst
the unpublished matter are plays, more or less complete,
note-books, and a mass of correspondence, ranging over
fifty years, with the most celebrated of Leigh Hunt's
contemporaries, throwing new light on many matters of
literary interest. Mr. Mayer has decided to use some of
these letters as materials for a series of articles, the first
of which will appear in the St. James's Magazine for
July, and will be entitled " Leigh Hunt and B. R.
Haydon." Several interesting and characteristic letters
from Haydon will be given in their entirety. Future
articles in the series will not be confined to the pages of
the St. James's Magazine.
to
T. P.—
" His virtues walked their narrow round,
Nor made a pause, nor left a void ;
And sure the Eternal Master found
The single talent well employed."
Part of the lines " On the Death of Mr. Robert Levet,
a Practiser in Physic," by Dr. Johnson.
J. M. A. writes, on the connexions of the Edgar
families : — " I am ready to place at the disposal of any
gentleman of the name my copy of Genealogical Collec-
tions of the Scottish House of Edgar, recently issued by
the Grampian Club ; edited by a Committee of the Club.
Application to be made at No. 17, Wickham Park
Terrace, Upper Lewisham Road, S.E."
CAPS. — The fatal duel between Mr. Scott and Mr.
Christie (on a literary quarrel between the London
Magazine and Blackwood) was fought by moonlight, in
February, 1821, between Chalk Farm and Primrose Hill.
Mr. Christie fired in the air. The seconds insisted on
the parties firing again, and Scott was killed.
TRANSPORT.— St. Filippo Neri, founder of the"0ra-
torians" in the sixteenth century, has, at least, the repu-
tation of being the inventor of that class of religious
music known by the name " Oratorio."
M. P. — Mr. Grant's poem On the Restoration of
Learning in the East obtained the Buchanan prize at
Cambridge. It was published, in 1805, by Cadell &
Davies.
VIEUVILLE (NOT VIENVILLE) (5th S. i. 315, 457,)— MR.
WOODWARD writes, " The arms are not borne by the family
of Vienville, but by the Marquesses, afterwards Dukes, of
Vieuville."
H. H. B. — By applying at Doctors' Commons, you will
learn how to obtain a ticket giving admission to inspect
wills.
W. M. M.— The work was edited and partly written by
the person named. It consists of two volumes. It does
not include the biography of S. Hugh of Lincoln.
T. R. — " SPONGE ME WELL," &c., is engraved on an old
gun on the heights of Dover.
C. A. W. — The letter referred to should be addressed
to the editor of the periodical named.
NOTICE.
Editorial Communications should be addressed to " The
Editor " — Advertisements and Business Letters to " The
Publisher "—at the Oflice, 20, Wellington Street, Strand,
London, W.'C.
We beg leave to state that we decline to return com-
munications which, for any reason, we do not print ; and
to this rule we can make no exception.
To all communications should be affixed the name and
address of the sender, not necessarily for publication, but
as a guarantee of good faith.
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LONDON, SATURDAY, JUNE 27. 1874.
CONTENTS.— N» 26.
NOTES :— Jottings in By- Ways, 501— The " Vengeur," 502—
Some Choice Sayings and Collections of Richard Nichols, o
Warrington, 503— Folk-Lore, 504— Kentish Epitaphs, 505—
The "Jacobus " Piece in the Kraton of the Sultan of Atchin
—An Ancient Ceremony— The Law of Marriage in Jamaica
506.
QUERIES :— " Salus Populi "—The " Speaker's Commentary '
—Spanish Verse, 507— "The Life and Death of John of
Barneveld" — Blue "Ribbon" or Blue "Ribband" — " Con
discipulus " — " The Private House in Drury Lane " —
• Balitenid— Hurlingham— " The Ghost of the old Empire,'
&c.— The Abbot Gerasimus : The Empress Felicitas— " The
Tnree Bears" — The Earl of Moreton— " Candlemas Gills,'
508 — " An Enthusiast " — Heraldic — " Drawback" — St,
Heiretha — St. Verdiana — York Minster — Pedigree Tracing —
Bonham and William Norton, 509.
REPLIES : — To "Case," 509 — "Quadragesimalis," 510 —
Spelling Reforms, 511— "S" versus " Z," 512— Richardson
Family— "The Night Crow"— Rigby, Paymaster of the
Forces in 1768— The Cuckoo and Nightingale — Poets and
Proper Names, 513— "Wise after the event "—The New
Dodsley— Lord Chatham and Bailey's "Dictionary" — Pro-
fessor Becker's " Gallus " — The " Swaleses' Gang " — Topo-
graphy of Northumberland, 514— "Serf " for "Cerf " — Songs
in "Rokeby" — West Felton, Shropshire— Leoline: Chris-
tabel — Whittle-gate—David Schomberg — "Out of the Frying-
pan," <fec. — " Fainter her slow step falls," &c., 515 — The Silver
Medal — "Beggar's Barm" — Grants of Nobility to Foreigners
— Job's Disease — Princes of the Blood Royal — The Crowns
worn by the Kings of England — Descriptive Catalogues —
Telling Fortune by the Cards — Mary J. Jourdan — The
"Jackdaw of Rheims," 516 — Surrey Provincialisms —
Shaddongate, 517— The Morgue — Jocosa — Epitaph on a
Tombstone at , near Paris, 518.
Notes on Books, &c.
JOTTINGS IN BY-WAYS.
IV. THE RELIGION OF NICHOLAS BRETON.
The Eev. Mr. Corser, speaking of N. Breton, in
his Collectanea Anglo-Poet., says : —
" It is evident fr?m several of his writings that Breton
was a member of the ancient faith, and some of them
are impregnated with all the fervour and enthusiastic
raptures of an ardent worshipper of the Virgin." — Part
iii. s. n. p. 4.
The probable source of this error will be presently
adverted to ; meanwhile a few but sufficient quo-
tations from his writings will show it to be an
error. The first is from one of his last, if not his
last publication, the second part of his Packet of
letters, and it may be noted that this letter " To a
Young Man going to Travel beyond the Sea " bears
marks of being one of what several certainly are,
true private letters made use of for this publication.
" Good cousin .... as first for your religion, have
a great care that your eies lead not your heart
after the horror of Idolatry." In The Court and
Country (16 18), where the Courtier and Countryman
each praise their place, we find passages like the
following : —
_" Courtier. , . . , tLe courtesy of the Gentlemen, the
divine service of the Morning and Evening [the scene
throughout is England].
" Countrym learned Churchmen .... and so when
God is praysed and the people pleased.
" Court. Oh cousin, to heare a King or a Prince speake
like a Prophet. ... A Preacher like an Apostle, and a
Courtier like a Preacher.
" Countrym. ... we go to school, first, to read Common
Prayers at Church. ... I hear our Parson in our Church."
It is not to be thought that a Koman Catholic
would lug in such matters against his con-
science when he had so many other things to
say and dwell upon. As here also, so in A Mad,
World my Masters, 1603, we have passages re-
ferring to, and showing acquaintance with, the
daily service of the Church of England, and
worded as though spoken by a member of that
church. Then in the Dialogue between Three
Philosophers (1603) are the following words, in a
panegyric on Elizabeth :— "Bazilethea . . . whose
magnanimitie in daungers and constancy in reli-
gion." But of the two or three books which,
after reading nearly all Breton's writings within
my reach, I dipped into in search of proof or
confutation of Mr. Corser's opinion, the fullest
passage is found in The Murmurer, a tract written
in 1607 against state-murmurers, and dedicated by
Breton to the Privy Council. After praising Eng-
land and its state, he continues to the mal-
contents : —
"Hast thou not with all this the richest jewel in the
world ; yea, and more worthy than the whole world '(
which is the heavenly word of God. ... In the time of
blindnes, when the booke of life was shut from thy
reading, when thy learned preachers and zealous people
were put vnto the fire .... doest thou murmure at
Religion] is it not better to serue God then Man1? and
to belieue the Truth, then follow Error '< to worship God
in the Heauens, then make a kind of God on the Earth, and
to begge pardon of thy God at home, then to buy it of a
man abroad : dost thou murmure that the Saints are not
worshiped 1 and wilt thou focget to worship God aboue
.... wouldest thou rather hear the word ? and under-
stand it not, then understand it and beleeue it ] or trust
rather to the word of a Priest for thy cofort, then to
'hine owne faith for thy saluation."
And he then says be not ungrateful, lest " God
:ast thee into vtter darknes \i. e., of Romanism] ;
. . while the Buls of Eome shal breed too many
values in Britanie."
Neither do I remember a single passage in any
of his religious poems where worship of the lowest
and is given to any creature, whether Virgin,
saint, martyr, angel, or archangel, or where their
'ntercession is implored or spoken of. On the
:ontrary, they are represented only as parts of the
adoring host. This, too, is the more noticeable,
irst, because Breton was fond of likening his state,
and falling away, and repentance, to that of Mary
Magdalene ; and, secondly, because The Pilgrimage
o Paradise and the Countess of Pembroke's Love
brings us down to 1592, as, according to Steevens,
does The Countess of Pembroke's Passion, a poem
ffhich is as undoubtedly Breton's, as without a tittle
f evidence it has been by Horace Walpole, Lodge,
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and others, given to the Countess herself. If
further proof be needed, it can be found in the
Auspicante Jehovah, 1597, and the very intimate
though dependent relationship between Breton
and the Countess. In the dedications to The
Pilgrimage, the Auspicante, and The Eavisht Soul,
he speaks in terms of the utmost gratitude of the
help afforded him by the Countess in the depths of
his distress and ill fortune. In the first of these
he signs himself also her " unworthy poet," and in
the Auspicante, " Your La : sometime vnworthy
Poet, and now and euer poore Beadman." But it
is in the second title of this that we see the greatest
proof of a relationship more than that of mere help
and gratitude, since she allowed him to call it
Marie's Exercise, the Marie being herself, and the
prayers, as he says, " a few historicall prayers set
downe for you." All this with the prayers them-
selves prove Breton a co-religionist with the
Countess.
Mr. Corser's mistake has arisen, I fancy, from
his attributing to Breton a prose tract, entitled
Marie Magdalen's Love. The 1598 and 1623
editions of Breton, Solemn Passion of the Soid's
Love, set forth by publishers other than Dauter
contained it alone. But the first edition by
Dauter in 1595 contains Marie Magdalen's Love,
sig. A to E, 8 in 8, pp. 80, with colophon at end —
"At London, Printed by John Dauter, and are to
bee sold by Win. Bailey at his shop in Gratious
Street, neare Leaden Hall, 1595." Then on con-
tinuous signatures, F to G, 8 in 8, pp. 32, but with
separate title, and at the end "Finis Nicholas
Britten," is The Solemn Passion. Now I have
never seen Mary Magdalen's Love, but Mr. Corser
describes it as a sort of prose commentary on
St. John xx. 1-18, and it is, I presume, a Eoman
Catholic treatise. But 'Martin Marprelate, in his
Epistle, or Epitome, makes it one of his accusations
that Dauter, while not of the Stationers' Company,
had printed some Roman Catholic tracts, and been
prosecuted (by John Wolfe), but had then, through
the influence of the Earl of Arundel, been ordered
to be admitted into the Company. The previous
quotations and arguments prove that Breton was
not a Roman Catholic. There is not a single
phrase in the Solemn Passion which shows even
the slightest tinge of Roman Catholicism ; and its
succeeding editions, and the peculiarities noticed
in the above collation as given by Mr. Corser, and
this history of Dauter, all go to show that Marie
Magdalen's Love was not by Breton, but was pro-
bably printed by Dauter in one venture with the
poem in order to keep its sale. The separate
title-pages, as in other instances where separate
works were published together, allowed of a separate
sale, but to those who could afford it Breton's
known name as a poet would be an inducement to
the purchase of the whole. If Dauter, or the
author of Magdalen's- Love, were in any way a
propagandist, there would be an additional reason
for the conjunction. In no other case did Dauter,
so far as I know, print or set forth any of Breton's
writings ; nor was Breton, like Nashe, "DauterV' — •
or any other publisher's — " gentleman," but seem-
ingly sold where he best could.
In one or more subsequent jottings I may say
somewhat as to works wrongly attributed to him.
BRINSLEY NICHOLSON.
THE "VENGEUR."
In reading M. Wallon's work on the French
Revolution, entitled La Terreur, I find that he
believes the story of the sinking of the " Vengeur "
in the action of the 1st of June, 1794, that
sublime piece of blague, Barere's grandest and
most successful Carmagnole. I had thought
that our greatest writer on the Revolution had,
to use his own phrase, punctured this windbag,
and so caused it utterly to collapse for ever. I
see, however, that Mr. Carlyle, far from killing
the snake, has only succeeded in scotching it ;
like Banquo's ghost, the story starts up and
stares us in the face when we least expect
it, and this in a work written only four or five
years ago. M. Wallon is very angry with Mr.
Carlyle for disbelieving the story. After quoting
(vol. i. p. 166) the passage in which Mr. Carlyle.
endeavours to make amends for having in the first
edition of his work given credence to it, by telling
the story as he afterwards heard it from Rear-
Admiral Griffiths, who was present in the action
as fourth Lieutenant of the " Culloden," M. Wallon
continues : —
" Le Vengeur n'a pas sombre volontairement, et ceux
de ses marins qui ont pu eckapper a la mort n'ont pas
refuse la vie : mais le vaisseau, avec plus de la moitie de
Pequipage, a peri apres un glorieux combat, et le dernier
cri des mourants a ete Vive la Republique ! Voyez le
rapport du brave capitaine Renaudin."
M. Wallon thus records his own belief in the
story ; he then applies his rod somewhat smartly
to Mr. Carlyle for venturing to doubt, or rathe?
to disbelieve, it altogether : —
"Sans aut&riser les paroles emphatiques de Barere,
qui pouvait etre de bonne foi, ne sachant rien que par de
vagues rumeurs, il permet de faire justice des paroles
injurieuses de Carlyle, qui, ayant pu avoir toutes les-
pieces sous les yeux, n'a pas la meme excuse."
As M. Wallon detests the Jacobins, and the
battle of the 1st June was fought by the Jacobins,
I can only suppose that it is part of a Frenchman's
national creed to believe the story of the " Ven-
geur," whatever his private politics may be. In
one sense, indeed, one can hardly blame him,
because, as usually told, it is a very dramatic and
spirited, not to cr.y inspiring tale, and it certainly
does great credit to the mvcrUve brain of the
"Anacreon of the Guillotine." Unfortunately,
however, it has one slight defect, namely, it is
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entirely untrue ! But we must not be too hard on
M. Wallon, when so eminent a writer on the
Eevolution as M. Louis Blanc also keeps to the
old tradition. M. Blanc calls it " le glorieux et
touchant episode du Vengeur." He admits that
many of the " Vengeur's " sailors were saved by
the English boats, and he pays a compliment to
our generosity in saving them. So far so good ;
but now Banquo's ghost starts up again in the
following shape : —
"Quant & ceux qui restaient a bord au moment ou
le vaisseau enfonga. leur agonie fut sublime. Reunis sur
le pont, ils attachment le pavilion frangais, de peur qu'il
ne surnage, et le visage tourne vers le ciel, agitant en
1'air leurs chapeaux, ils descendent comme en triomphe
dans 1'abime, aux cris de Vive la Republique ! Vive la
France !"
If the story of the "Vengeur" were true, it
•would be something worse than ungenerous to
endeavour to rob our neighbours of their well-
earned laurels ; nor is it at all consistent with the
English character to do any such thing. No
people are more ready than ourselves to recognize
and acknowledge heroism in either friends or foes ;
and indeed we can only regret that the story is
not true, because such a brilliant act, whether
done by Englishmen or Frenchmen, would add to
the world's wealth of golden deeds, just as all
nations may feel proud of Thermopylae or the
Balaclava charge. Such acts as these make the
whole world kin ; but ante omnia veritas.
Mr. Carlyle has in his article on the sinking of
the " Vengeur," in his miscellaneous writings, so
thoroughly sifted the question, and proved to
demonstration its untruth, that I can only suppose
neither M. Blanc nor M. Wallon has ever seen
this article ; had they seen it, they could never
have reproduced the story in the way they have
done.
M. Wallon refers us to Captain Eenaudin's report
of the affair ; this is more extraordinary than all,
because Mr. Carlyle says that this very report
entirely confirms Admiral Griffiths' statement that
the story is a fabrication ; so what M. Wallon
means I cannot imagine. Mr, Carlyle could have
no possible motive for distorting the facts, even
were it consistent with his untarnished honour as
a writer to do such a thing.
I am far from entertaining so presumptuous an
opinion as to suppose that when such an intellectual
giant as Carlyle has failed in extinguishing a
falsehood, so humble a person as myself is likely
to be more successful ; still, as the circulation of
" N. & Q." extends, I believe, to the Continent,
I am not without some hopes that this article,
slight as it is, may possibly come to the knowledge
of M. Wallon, or even of M. Louis Blanc, and so
be the means of directing their attention to Mr.
Carlyle's essay on this vexed question, with
which they would appear to be unacquainted. M.
Wallon quotes from Carlyle's French Revolution,
which does not of course go thoroughly into the
subject, as the sinking of the " Vengeur" (she did
sink, but without Barere's accompaniments), indeed,
the battle itself, was only a single scene in the
tremendous and varied drama of the Eevolution.
The article, written in 1839, is entitled " On the
Sinking of the Vengeur," and it will be found in
Mr. Carlyle's Miscellaneous Essays, ed. 1857,
vol. iv. p. 209.
It would be interesting to know what M. Taine
thinks about it. No Frenchman is more deeply
read in English literature than he, and we may be
sure that he is acquainted with Mr. Carlyle's
essay. JONATHAN BOUCHIER.
2, Stanley Villas, Bexley Heath.
SOME CHOICE SAYINGS AND COLLECTIONS OF
RICHARD NICHOLS, OF WARRINGTON.
I have an old manuscript book in my possession,
which formerly belonged to, and, probably, was
compiled by, one " Thomas Holme," who " was born
at Moors Ashby, in Northamptonshire, October 2,
1662," and " Came to Lancashire July 20, 1672."
" Was marryed to Mary Doming, daughter of
Samuel Doming, of Culcheth, in Winwiek parish,
Jany. 2, 1695." So runs, at least, the oldest of
several similar narratives of former possessors,
written on the front leaves of the book, and
the handwriting throughout seems to be identical
with it.
It contains some sermons and hymns, which
were evidently preached and sung in the chapels
of the surrounding neighbourhood a century and a
half ago. I think they must have been what are
called "Opening Sermons," as we have, for ex-
amples, " Heads of a Sermon preached by Mr.
Brown at Bolton New Chappel, July, 1706," —
" Heads of a Sermon by Mr. Basnet, preached at
Bury New Chappel: anno 1725,"— Ditto, "By
Mr. Dixon at Cockey New Chappel, Sep. 25, 1726,"
a place celebrated in song for a lady's boa, which
some of our wiseacres mistook for a snake, as they
observed it now wriggling, and anon flying in a
Cockey Moor breeze, — Ditto, " By Mr. Seddon at
the Mont in March, 1731," — and another by one
Olliver Heywood, whose discourse would do credit
to the ancestry of the present Mr. Olliver Heywood,
whom we deservedly esteem a Lancashire worthy.
There is also a lot of miscellaneous matter, the
gem of which is " Some Choice Sayings and Col-
lections of Eichard Nichols, of Warrington," and I
think the readers of " N. & Q." would hail this
with pleasure.
" Certain Short but Profitable Sentences, worthy Remem-
bring.
"1. Self denyall makes a poor condition easy, and a
rich one safe.
" 2. A good intension will not justify a bad action.
" 3. There are three devourers of sabbath Time : The
Body, The world, and bad company.
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" 4. The Tears of siners is the wine of Angels.
" 5. That's a hard Heart that trembles not at ye name
of a hard Heart.
" 6. The best way to wipe of reproaches is to live so
that no body may believe them.
" 7. Tho time be not lasting, yet what depends on Time
is everlasting.
" 8. He only can satisfy us that satisfyed for us.
" 9. The Allmost Christian is the unhappyest man in
the world, for he has religion enough to make the world
to hate him but not enough to make God love him.
" 10. The promises of God are greater helps to mortify
sin, Then any promises of ours to Him, that we will do it.
" 11. plain Grace is better than fine gifts.
" 12. Religion doth not lay men asleep tho it be the
only way to rest.
"13. persecuted Godliness is better then prosperous
wickedness.
" 14. The weak when watchful are more safe then the
strong when secure.
" 15. God doth notusially bless those with peace *f con-
science, as make no conscience of peace.
"16. Learn to set spiritual riches against Temporal
poverty.
" balance all your present Troubles with your spirtual
priveleges.
" 17. As God did not at first chuse us because we were
so high, so he will not forsake us because we are low.
"18. The Bush, the Church, may be all in aflame, but
shal never be consumed because of the goodwill of Him
that dwels in ye bush.
"19. he y* has all his religion in his prayers has no
religion at all.
" 20. That eye weeps most that looks oftnest on the
sun of Righteousness.
" 21. The Tears of young penitents do more scorch ye
devil then all yc flames of hell besides.
" 22. When we are in a strait that we know not what
to do, we must have a care of doing we know not what.
" 23. It was the saying of a good man, when troubles
are coming I'le go meet them ; when come I'le bid them
wellcome ; when gone I'le not take my leave of them.
" 24. none are really poor but such as are poor in grace
and knowledge.
" 25. That is no religion which we leave behind us at
Church.
" 26. When a man is acquainted with his own Heart
he is apt to think every one better then himself.
" 27. Remember that there are four parts of the word,
The Promise, The threatning. The command, and the
example. If you have to do with a precept or command,
remember it is backed with a promise of assistance and
reward ; and God is as faithfull in performing as gracious
in promising : if you have to do with a Threatning re-
member that God Threatens that he may not execute ;
but if you have to do with an Example, it has allways a
Promise or Threatning in the bowels of it.
"28. There are three things we should set a high vallue
upon, Our souls, Time; And the Word.
" 29. There are nine enemys to charity : 1. Unbelief,
2. Hardness of Heart, 3. self-Love, 4. Love of Money,
5. Worldly cares, 6. Pretended love to children, 7. base
fears of want, 8. scornfull highmindedness, 9. The un-
thankfullness of ye poor.
" 30. desire so much only of the world as is best for
you, for that proportion is best that helps forward to
Heaven, but doth not hinder.
"31. Ther are Twenty limbs of the old man we should
put off, and Twenty more of the new we should put on.
1. Put of Pride and put on Humility ; 2. Put of Passion
and put on Meekness; 3. Put of coveteousness and put on
contentedness ; 4. Put of strife and put on Peaceable-
ness ; 5. Put of murmuring, put on patience ; 6. Put of
meloncholy, put on chearfulness ; 7. Put of vanity, put on
sobriety ; 8. Put of uncleanness, put on chastity ; 9. Put
of lying, put on honesty ; 10. Put of drunkeness, put on
Temperance ; 11. Put of Hatered, put on Love ; 12. Put
of Hipocrisy, put on sinceiity ; 13. Put of bad discourse,
put on good ; ] 4. Put of security, put on watchfulness ;
15. Put of bad company, put on good ; 16. Put of sloth-
fulness, put on diligence ; 17. Put of foolishness, put on
prudence ; 18. Put of fear, put on Hope ; 19. Put of
sense, and put on ffaith ; 20. Put of self, and put on
Jesus Christ.
"32. every Grace adorns a Christian. Perseverance
only crowns them.
KOYLE ENTWISLE, F.E.H.S.
Farnworth, Bolton.
FOLK-LORE.
OWL'S EGGS A EEMEDY FOR DRUNKENNESS. —
Swan says, in his Speculum Mundi, that "the
egges of an owle broken and put into the cups of
a drunkard, or one desirous to follow drinking,
will so work with him that he will suddenly lothe
his good liquor and be displeased with drinking."
It is a pity that this simple receipt is not better
known amongst the Good Templars and Teetotal
community generally, as the introduction of owl's
eggs at our banquets instead of plover's, which are
said to be too often crow's eggs, might powerfully
contribute to the sobriety of our festive boards,,
and thus easily attain the object so earnestly
desired by our Temperance brethren.
A TEETOTALLER.
STORK'S EGG : SPANISH FOLK - LORE. — Mr.
Howard Saunders writes in the Field of April 18:
" As I was walking through the plaza, del mercado, or
market-place of Seville with Manuel, an old fruit-seller
asked him .... to get her a stork's egg for her son ....
Then came a bargain, and finally the old lady agreed to
give ten reals, an enormous price for her, and for such
an article. When we had got out of earshot, Manuel
informed me that her son was that very rare thing in
Spain, an habitual drunkard, and it is the popular belief
that a stork's egg is a certain cure for this unfortunate
habit."
JAMES BRITTEN.
British Museum.
FOLK-LORE OF THE LAUREL. — I have a copy of
a somewhat remarkable work, of only ten folio
pages, called The History of Adam and Eve, &c.,
illustrated with " Five large and beautiful Copper-
plates, engrav'd by G. King (disciple to Mr.
Vertue) and other Eminent Hands, from the
Original Drawings of the Famous A. Vanhaecken.'r
It appears to have been originally published in
1733; but my copy is "The Fourth Edition.
Printed for W. Heard, at the Philo-biblion's Library,
near St. James's Church, Piccadilly," 1758. At
p. 4 is the following bit of folk-lore : —
' He covers himself with the Leaves of the Fig-tree.,
because that Tree being of the same Nature of the
Laurel, he thought by that Means to shelter himself
from the Thunder Bolts of the Divine Indignation ; or
5th S. I. JUNE 27, '74.
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otherwise, flattering himself in his Misfortune, he dares
to persuade himself that he might be able to mitigate
the Anger of God by covering himself with the Leaves
of a Tree, whose Root is reported to have the Power oi
breaking Marble."
OUTHBERT BEDE.
SPRINKLING EIVERS WITH FLOWERS. — Milton,
in his Comus, says : —
" The shepherds at their festivals
Carol her good deeds loud in rustic lays,
And throw sweet garland wreaths into her stream
Of pansies, pinks, and gaudy daffodils."
And Dyer, in his poem of The Fleece, says : —
" With light fantastic toe the nymphs
Thither assembled, thither-every swain ;
And o'er the dimpled stream a thousand flowers,
Pale lilies, roses, violets, and pinks,
Mixed with the green of burnet, mint, and thyme,
And trefoil, sprinkled with their sportive arms;
Such custom holds along the irriguous vales
From Wreakin's brow to archy Dolvoryn."
From these extracts,' it is evident that the practice
of sprinkling rivers with flowers existed at one
time. It was, I believe (perhaps is), a ceremony
which took place annually on Holy Thursday, and
had a very ancient origin. The fontinalia of the
Romans were ceremonies held in honour of the
nymphs of fountains. " Where a spring rises or a
river flows, there should we build altars and offer
sacrifices," says Seneca. The well-dressing of
Tissington is a relic of this. I should be glad to
know if the custom of sprinkling rivers with flowers
is still preserved in any quarter. J. N. B.
" MARCH DUST." — " A peck of March dust is
worth an Earl's ransom," " A bushel of March dust
is worth a King's ransom," are common sayings
enough ; but until this year I never heard the
sequel phrase, " When do vail on thornen leaves,"
— meaning, I suppose, that the March dust is
valuable at the" close of the month, when the
thorn begins to unfold its leaves, rather than at
an earlier period. C. E. K.
Beaminster, Dorset.
A CHARM FOR THE AGUE. — A labourer's wife
had ague some weeks ago. She was for some
time under the doctor's care (a duly qualified
gentleman). She tried ague medicine of great
repute from druggists and a quack doctor. Medi-
cine proved useless — she suffered still. One day,
when her lucky star was in the ascendant, she
heard of a woman who could charm it away. The
husband borrowed a conveyance. Next morning
early found him with the one who had charmed
going to the charmer. After this visit she gave
up medicine as impotent. Though very weak, she
gradually got rid of her pest. Now she is cured,
her husband says, by a handful of herbs tied in
her bosom, which pleasing duty a man must per-
form for a woman, and vice versa. He gathered
the herb — common groundsel (at what particular
hour or in what manner deponent sayeth not) ; did
everything to it himself ; tied it on her bare bosom,
after certain incantations by the charmer, which
he could not explain. There it was to remain, and
as the herb withered the ague would die away —
hers had done so — through faith, I suppose. Poor
fellow ! EGAR.
HYDROPHOBIA. — An old Cheshire gardener told
me, a few days since, that the reason why mad
dogs are so much more frequently seen now (and,
I take it, that even after making all proper allow-
ance for the publicity which daily papers afford,
there are many more mad dogs now than fifty
years ago) is that when a litter of pups arrive, no
one hardly thinks of removing the small worm
which is found under the puppy's tongue ; and this
worm — not invariably, by any means, but very
often — whether by irritation or not, I cannot say, —
causes madness. On the contrary, — so says my
informant, — if the worm is removed, the dog never
goes mad, and he speaks from a long experience.
I hope this is worth a thorough ventilation in
" N. & Q." JUNII NEPOS.
KENTISH EPITAPHS. — Penshurst Church is re-
plete with epitaphs and memorials which reflect
the quaint style of the early periods. I subjoin a
selection. On a flat stone : —
" Pray for the soulys of Watin Draynowtt and Joane
and Agnes his wyfys, the which Watin decessyd the xxi
day of Marche in the yere of our Lord MV°LXX on whose-
soulys Jhesu have mercy, Amen."
Beneath are the effigies of four boys and three
girls, and at the top of the stone is an escutcheon
in brass, with these arms : two lions passant, im-
paling, on a chief, two lions' heads erased. On
another gravestone : —
" Robert Kerwin doth now here lie,
A man of proved honestie,
Whose sowle to heaven hence did flie,
To enjoy Christ his felicity,
The seaventh of Februarie. 1615."
On another gravestone : —
' Jane the wife and Miles the son of Miles Smith here
lye buried.
" To my dear wife
Soe rest in peace and till I dye
Live in my love and memorye
Then be thou (when my life is spent)
Mine and thine own blest monument."
On the south side of the Communion Table, on a
gravestone, is a brass plate with this inscription : —
"The b'ody of the Revd. John Bust, God's painfull
Minister in this place the space of 21 years, with the
bodies of Katherine his wife and Katarin Hales his
grandchild, rest heere in hope of the resurrection.
:'May savourie salt be thus trod under foot,
And must a light, here lied, at length go out?
No but were wee (good saint) not dimme of sight
Beyond the sunbeams we might see thy light,
'Tis but thine earthen vessell heere doth rest,
And that hopes once of light to be possest
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'Twas made to honor — in thy pilgrimage,
It bore the treasure for God's embassage,
Heere may that rest, thou (as thy life did prove)
Wert a good angel heere, now Saint above.
" They that bee wise shall shine as the brightnesse of
the firmament and they that turn manie to righteousnesse
as the stars for ever and ever. — Dan. xii. 3. "
On the north side of the chancel is a monument
of stone, let into the wall, with a brass plate and
this inscription : —
73
" Here lyeth William Darkenoll Pson. of this place
Ending his ministerie even this year of grace, 1596.
His father and mother and wyfes two by name,
80 88 50 67
John Jone and two Margarets all lived in good fame.
Their several ages who liketh to know
Over each of their names, the figures do shewe,
The sons and daughters now spronge of this race,
Are five score and od in every place.
" Decessed Julii 12 anno supra dicto.
" Phil. i. 21.
" As Chryste is lyfe to me,
So death my gaine shall be.
Blessed are they trulye
That in the Lord do dye."
H. M. VANE.
Eaton Place.
THE " JACOBUS " PIECE IN THE KRATON OF
THE SULTAN OF ATCHIN. — In the " Kraton " of
the Sultan of Atchin there was found, on its cap-
ture by the Dutch on the 24th of Jan., 1874, an
object which possesses some degree of interest for
Englishmen. This was a bronze piece, in capital
preservation, of, as far as I can remember, not
more than 5 feet in length, but of enormous
calibre, viz., between 22 and 23 inches in
diameter. Notwithstanding this size of bore, the
thickness of the gun did not exceed one inch and
a quarter. It lay on the ground a few yards within,
and to the right of, the north entrance of the
earthen breastwork, which forms the outermost
boundary of the Kraton ; and hard by it were three
stone round-shot of about the diameter of the
piece. It may be noted, too, that the gun was not
pointed outwards, but lay parallel to the breast-
work, with its muzzle directed towards the path
leading from the entrance of the breastwork to the
gate in the outer of the stone walls of the inner
Kraton.
About the middle of the gun are the arms of
England, elaborately wrought, and a little behind
them are the words —
"JACOBUS REX."
Between these and the vent is further the legend —
"THOMAS AND KICHAKD PIT
BRETHRKN MADE THIS PEECE.
ANO. 1617."
By this piece hangs a tale. The then Sultan of
Atchin had made a request to James I. that he
should send him two Englishwomen as wives, with
the promise that their issue should be future
Sultans or Sultanas, as the case might be, of the
kingdom of Atchin. The answer to this demand
was a present of two bronze guns, of large calibre,
of which the piece just described is one.
This curious story is generally accepted as true ;
and I find in a Dutch work, printed at Leyden in
1843, and entitled Handleiding tot de aardrijks-
Jcunde van Nederlands oostindische bezittingen,
uitgegevendoor de maatschappij, — a statement to the
.effect that the entrance of the Kraton was guarded
by. two pieces presented by James I., which are
further stated to be without carriages, and to be
sunken in the ground. As to where the second
piece is, I am not certain, but I think that it was
found in one of the "^bentings," or forts, on the
coast, which were captured by the Dutch.
J. C. GALTON, F.L.S.
AN ANCIENT CEREMONY. — In the particulars of
the sale of the Manor of Broughton, county of
Lincoln, in 1845, is a description of the performance
of a custom by which the property used formerly
to be held. It runs thus : —
" This estate is held subject to the performance, on
Palm Sunday, in every year, of the ceremony of cracking
a whip in Caistor Church, in the said county of Lincoln,
which has been regularly and duly performed on Palm
Sunday, from time immemorial, in the following manner.
The whip is taken every Palm Sunday by a man from
Broughton to the parish of Caistor, who, while the
minister is reading the first lesson, cracks it three distinct
times in the church porch, then folds it neatly up and
retires to a seat. At the commencement of the second
lesson he approaches the minister, and kneeling opposite
him with the whip in his hand, and a purse at the end of
it, held perpendicularly over his head, waves it thrice,
and continues in a steadfast position during the whole of
the chapter. The ceremony is then concluded. The
whip has a leathern purse tied at the end of it, which
ought to contain thirty pieces of silver, said to represent,
according to Scripture, " the price of blood." Four pieces
of weechelm tree, of different lengths, are affixed to the
stock, denoting the different gospels of the holy evan-
gelists. The three distinct cracks of the whip are typical
of St. Peter's denial of his Lord and Master three times,
and the waving it over the minister's head, as an in-
tended homage to the blessed Trinity."
HAMMILL F****
[See "N. & Q.," 1" S. iv. 406; 2nd S. xi. 246; 3rd S.
vii. 354, 388.]
THE LAW OF MARRIAGE IN JAMAICA. — I think
that it is not so generally known as it perhaps
ought to be that the Legislature of Jamaica (quite
competent to do so) passed an Act in 1840, under
the provisions of which the Scotch marriage law
was established, with retrospective effect. I be-
lieve that this law was afterwards abrogated, but
without disturbing its effect on the past ; and it
must be borne in inind that the independence of
the local legislature was secured in the seventeenth
century, chiefly in consequence of the bold stand
made by Mr. Long, " the patriot," as he has been
called, against the principle of Poyning's Irish Act
being applied to Jamaica. There is a compre-
hensive review of this local Marriage Act to be
&* 8. 1. JUNE 27, 74.]
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found in Lights and Shadows of Jamaica History,
by Hon. Mr. R. Hill, P. C. Jam. This author says
that the Act of 1753 (26 Geo. II. c. 53) is ex-
pressly declared to be inoperative beyond seas ;
and that "Any registered marriage, celebrated
any how, remained therefore in Jamaica avowed
matrimony."
I have brought forward this subject with the
hope of eliciting the opinions of others ; for, as the
above law is stated, by the author in question, to
have had a very wide scope, it is evident thar it
must have had the effect locally, at any rate, of
legitimating branches of families which had pre-
viously been excluded from " pedigrees," as illegi-
timate ; and on this authority alone, I believe that
a pedigree constructor would be justified in re-
storing the legitimated line with local, if not gene-
ral precedence, according to its natural seniority.
SP.
[We must request correspondents desiring information
on family matters of only private interest, to affix their
names and addresses to their queries, in order that the
answers may be addressed to them direct.]
"SALUS POPULI." — Has the authorship of the
tract or book so often cited by Sir John Davis, the
learned Attorney- General of King James I., under
the title of Salus Populi, in his well-known " Dis-
coverie of the true causes why Ireland was never
entirely subdued, nor brought under obedience of
the Crown of England, until the beginning of His
Majesties most Happy Raigne," been traced 1 Sir
John Davis evidently esteemed it of high authority
and value, and Sir James Ware, too, was cognizant
of the tract, and in his list of Irish writers gives us
to understand that " Pandarus was the author of a
book intituled Salus Populi, and that he lived in
the reigns of Edward IV., Edward V., Richard III.,
and Henry VII., and perhaps under Henry VIII.
In which book he shows the cause of the miseries
of Ireland, and prescribes proper remedies for the
same suitable to those times." But this name is
clearly only a pseudonym, or nom de plume. It
has been suggested that the tract printed at the
beginning of the second volume of the State Papers,
published under the authority of the King's Com-
mission to the Rt. Hon. Manners Sutton, Speaker
of the House of Commons, Sir Robert Peel, and
Henry Hobhouse, in 1834, and which appears, from
internal evidence, to have been written about the
year 1515, may be, in some degree, a transcript of
the Salus Populi ; but this is only a surmise, and
seems to be contradicted by the very terms of the
latter tract, which alludes very distinctly to the
former treatise as an earlier one, and cites only
some few portions of it, and probably supplied
Sir James Ware with the name " Pandarus," as
the author of the original production. We are
informed, it is true, that the MS. 4792 in the
British Museum contains a paper entitled, in
Ayscough's Catalogue, " Pandarus, Salus Populi,
de Rebus Hibernicis, temp. Hen. VI," But the
same informant goes on to state that the character
of the writing of this last-mentioned tract is more
modern by about a century than the date of the
paper printed in the State Papers of 1834, as
collected from intrinsic evidence. The MS. in the
British Museum is said to contain much of the
same matter, but omits many passages, and has
others which are not to be found in the document
printed under the more recent Commission in 1834.
All this leaves the name of the original writer,
and the exact period at which he flourished, still a
matter for inquiry.
I have now mentioned shortly all that as yet
appears to have transpired in the matter of this
curious and interesting inquiry, and should be
glad if any of your correspondents would clear up
the remaining questions.
I may add, that to some political writers, even
at the present day, it might appear that there is
much in these tracts that might perchance have a
modern application, although no doubt with con-
siderable modifications. J. HUBAND SMITH.
Royal Irish Academy, Dublin.
THE " SPEAKER'S COMMENTARY." — The note in
the Speaker's Commentary on Psalm xc. 10, vol.
iv., p. 374, says that " the spirit and manner of
the original are better exhibited" than in the
A.V., " if the distinct versicles are marked."
" All the days of our years — threescore years are they :
Or if strength be great, seventy and ten years;
And their pride is labour and sorrow ;
For soon it has passed away — and we too must fly
away ! "
But how can the editor justify this robbing us
of ten years 1 Perhaps he will kindly say how
the note should be amended. E. S. W.
SPANISH VERSE. — In a South American newsr
paper I recently came across these lines : —
" Ventana sobre ventana,
Sobre ventana balcon,
Sobre balcon una dama,
Sobre la dama una flor."
This cannot be easily transferred into English ; we
have no one word which corresponds to sobre in
all the above cases. Literally, a " window above
a window ; above a window, a balcony ; above (in)
a balcony a lady ; above (on) a lady a flower " ; or
more freely : —
" A window and a window,
A window and a bower,
A bower and a lady,
A lady and a flower."
From what poem are the Spanish lines taken?
They present a charming picture in very few words
— a literary miniature. DUDLEY ARMYTAGE.
Kusholme.
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[5th S. I. JUNE 27, '74.
" THE LIFE AND DEATH OF JOHN OF BARNE-
VELD." By J. L. Motley.
f- " The spectacle of the slobbering James among his
Kars and Hays and Villierses, and other minions,, is one
at which history covers her eyes and is dumb."— Vol. i.,
p. 195.
i*> In what books that are easily accessible can I
find full details of the circumstances here referred
to?
"Father Cotton, who was only too ready to betray
the secrets of the Confessional when there was an object
to gain." — Vol. i., p. 201.
Is there any proof that Eoman Catholic priests
often, or indeed ever, betrayed the secrets of the
Confessional for political or other purposes; and
if so, where can I find the evidence of this 1
"I pass over with disdain one of the causes which
scandalous chronicles once assigned to the influence of
the Dutch ambassador (Francis Aerssens), being satisfied
that the rumour was as malignant and false as political
rumours often are. " — Vol. i., p. 312, note.
What was this rumour, and what are the
chronicles referred to ? F. H. M.
BLUE "EIBBON"OR BLUE " RIBBAND."— Will
your correspondents learned in lexicographical
matters inform me which is the correct or more
generally accepted and accurate way of spelling
the above word? The present Premier was the
first to use the term of " the blue ribbon of the
turf," in his Biography of Lord George Bentinck.
Webster gives the word as under " Eibbon,
derived from rubens, red." The same authority
adds, — " This word, formerly riband, ribband, is
now commonly written ribbon." Pope adopts the
latter spelling.
" To sigh for ribbons, if thou art so silly;
Mark how they grace Lord Umbra and Sir Billy."
HENRY MORT FEIST.
" CONDISCIPULUS." — In an article on Addison
in the June number of Temple Bar " condisci-
pulus " is given as the derivation of the word
" codd," which is used at Charterhouse to signify
an old pensioner ; while in " N. & Q." for August
25, 1855, the same word is said to be an abbrevia-
tion of " codger." Can any of your correspondents
say which of these two derivations is right?
CARTHUSIAN.
" THE PRIVATE HOUSE IN DRURY LANE." — In
Gerard Langbaine's Account of Dramatic Pod,
there is frequent mention of that place ; for
example, "Humorous Courtier, a Comedy pre-
sented with good applause, at the Private House
in Drury Lane ; and printed, 4to., Lond., 1640.
And plays are also named as having been per-
formed at " the Private house in Black- fryars.'
Qy., Why were they called private houses ?
GEORGE ELLIS.
St. John's Wood.
BALITENID. — A patent roll of the eleventh year
of Edward I. (2nd Report, Irish Records Com-
mission, 1812) grants Balitenid with Kathill,
Balicolmay, and Dunderg, in tenemento de Obrun,
iO William le Deveneys. I shall be obliged to any
reader of "N. & Q." who can say where these
places are, especially the first. If " Obrun " (else-
where " Obren ") is for the lands of Ua Briain
(O'Brien), one would expect the locality to be
somewhere in Clare county. D. F.
Hammersmith.
HURLINGHAM. — In Stanford's fine Map of Lon-
don and Environs (scale, 6 inches to the mile), I
notice that the mansion standing on the estate at
Fulham, which, has become identified with pigeon-
shooting, is marked as " Erlingham House." There
is a mis-spelling and a cockneyism on the part of
some one. Is it an error of the draughtsman, or
have the fashionable club who possess the estate
given their sanction to so very unfashionable a
blunder ? EDWARD NORMAN.
Nottingham Road, Upper Tooting, S.W.
"THE GHOST OF THE OLD EMPIRE SITTING
AMID THE RUINS OF HOME." — Where is the above
description of the Pope to be found ? I have read
it as a quotation from Gibbon, but have not been
able to discover it in the Decline and Fall.
SCRUTATOR.
THE ABBOT GERASIMUS : THE EMPRESS FELI-
CITAS. — Any account of these, authenticated by
reference to any work in which mention is made
of them, will be acceptable. C. A. B.
" THE THREE BEARS." — What was the imme-
diate source from which England obtained this
favourite nursery tale ? ST. SWITHIN.
THE EARL OF MORETON. — In a translation of
Domesday Book by Samuel Henshall and John
Wilkinson (1799), in the counties of Sussex and
Surrey, the Earl of Moreton is mentioned as
holding a large territory, particularly in the former
county. Who was he ? He is not mentioned by
Nicolas or Courthope. D. C. E.
The Crescent, Bedford.
"CANDLEMAS GILLS."— There is at Horbury,
in Yorkshire, a still practised curious custom called
" Candlemas Gills." A local paper says—
" By virtue of this custom every ratepayer is entitled
to a gill of ale, which may be had and drunk at the
Fleece Inn, or sent for and consumed at home. The
trustees of the town pay the expense entailed by the
custom,"
" Candlemas gills " were duly served out to the
ratepayers on the second week of February, 1873.
What is the origin of this custom, and where can
further particulars be found 1 Is a similar custom
known elsewhere ? WILLIAM ANDREWS.
5th S. I. JUNE 27, 74.]
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" AN ENTHUSIAST." — Who is the author of thii
play, a dramatic essay, with each scene constituting
an act, of which there are seven. Berwick, printec
for the author by Lochead & Gracie, Bridge
Street, 1800, 8vo. 1 In a short Preface prefixed to
the drama it is said : —
" The following pages are presented to the Public by a
Woman, tremblingly alive to censure or applause, anc
•who, whilst she hopes for one sprig of laurel from her
northern neighbours, will not sigh for a London fame,'
This provincial play is not mentioned in the
Biographia Dramatica. R. INGLIS.
HERALDIC. — In the Accidence of Armorie oj
Gerard Leigh there is an engraving of a " sagittary
geules, within an escalop argent," and this is
stated to be the " badge of an esquire of England."
Is this an invention of Master Gerard, or was such
a badge in use in his time to mark the rank of an
esquire 1 CORNUB.
" DRAWBACK." — At the bottom of the title-page
of the Earl of Dundonald's " Treatise " showing the
connexion between Agriculture and Chemistry,
London, 1795, after the date is printed in brackets
the word " drawback." What is the meaning of
this 1 J. B. B.
Oxford.
ST. HEIRETHA (ST. HERYGH ?). — Can anybody
give me particulars respecting the martyrdom of
this saint, the patron saint of Chittlehampton,
Devon? B. C. C.
ST. VERDIANA. — About seventy lines from the
•commencement of the tenth novel, fifth day of
the Decameron (small edition, in 5 vols., by
Vitarelli, Venice, 1813), is the following sentence :
" Si domestico con una vecchia che parera pur santa
Verdiana che da beccare alle serpi." Is there a
Saint Verdiana, and if so, where is her life (or
anything about her) to be found ? If there is not,
what is the explanation of the above passage ?•
J. J.
YORK MINSTER. — In the Revestry of York
Minster is a silver pastoral crook said to have been
snatched from the hand of Dr. James Smith,
Bishop of Callipolis, by Lord Danby, in 1688. I
should be glad of reference to a mention of this
incident by any contemporary writer. W. W.
[See Murray's Handbook to the Cathedrals (York),
where the following is quoted : — " The Pope had made
Smith his Vicar-Apostolic for the northern district, and
he was soon pounced upon."]
PEDIGREE TRACING. — Will some experienced
genealogist kindly inform me which is the best and
cheapest way of tracing a pedigree, prior to 1550 ?
BONHAM AND WILLIAM NORTON. — Blakeway,
in his Sheriff's of Shropshire, says, " Bonham
Norton, of Church Stretton, was son of William
Norton, citizen and stationer of London. They
appear to have been formerly of Shropshire." How
does he prove this ? Who was William Norton's
father 1 X.
TO "CASE" (SEE "EMBOSSED").
(4th S. xi., xii. passim; 5th S. i. 55, 172, 278, 318.)
" We '11 make you some sport with the fox, ere we case
him."— All's Well that Ends Well, iii. 6.
That " case " meant a skin, and " to case " to
skin, is undoubted. If, however, they were kitchen
or cook's technicals, they can hardly be quoted as
decisive explanations of a hunting metaphor. This
and a hope that the substantive would be found to
mean den, lair, or earth, and that the above phrase
could, therefore, mean ere we run him to earth,
kept me from accepting the explanation. But I
must recant, and, giving up my long-cherished
belief, confess that " to case " is to strip. In The
Noble Arte of Venerie (1575) the compiler or
translator gives the different technicals used to
express the skinning of each animal : —
:' The Harte and all manner of Deare are flayne : and
yet Huntsmen vse more commonly GO say, take off that
Deares skinne. The Hare is stryped, and (as Trystram
sayeth) the Bore also : the Foxe, Badgerd, and all other
vermine are cased, that is to say, you must beginne at
the snowte or nose of the beast, and so turne his skinne
ouer his eares all alongst the bodie, vritill you come at
the tayle, and that hangeth out to show what beast it
was, this is called casing."
R. Blome, in The Gentleman's Recreation, 1686,
almost copies this, and slightly altered it will be
found in The Sportsman's Dictionary, 1778, as
quoted by G. T. M. (i. 278), slain being a misprint
for flain. These examples of the continuance of
the phrases lead to a word or two on the force of
the -argument. No language was more minutely
technical, and more rigorous and imperative in its
demands, than " the strange dialect of hawks and
liounds." As in skinning, so in other matters
different words were used according to the animal
spoken of ; and it was a mark of a gentleman to
ise these terms rightly, while an error showed ill
areeding and contemptible ignorance. This seems
;o have been more especially the case about and
after 1600, when, as may be seen by various pas-
sages in The Return from Parnassus, the newer
generation of gallants made this an accomplish-
nent that separated them from the vulgar, and
;here seem to be indications that the language, now
more fashionable, became also more pedantically
rigid. The increase and reprint of treatises on
sport point in the same direction, and the liking of
James was of course of much avail, and accounts
or the introduction of the " Gentle Astringer,"
hat is, of the Court ostreger, or falconer, of gentle
)irth, who, from the habits of the king, could aid
petitioners " with that store of power he had "
510
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[5th S. I. JUNE j»7, 74.
(act v. sc. I).* As Shakspeare, too, is invariably
correct in his technicals of all trades and profes-
sions, so was he apparently one well acquainted
with field sports. Lastly, we know that the young
lord and others took Parolles to be not only
reynard-like in his wheedling, but hurtful and
noxious as vermin ; and the fox, though a " beast
of chase," was always, by huntsmen and hunting
writers, placed among vermin. It is this view of
Parolles that Shakspeare dwells on throughout the
play. Hence the greater necessity for the use of a
word appropriated to vermin, and, on all the above
grounds, he, when putting a hunting metaphor
into the mouth of a nobleman, put it in correct
hunting terms. In accord with this, and with
what has been said above of the affectation of this
language by gallants, it will be noticed that the
whole passage is full of such phrases. First, we
have embossed, wearied like a deer, and this is
followed by " his fall." Then lord No. 2 improves
on the metaphor, and talks of casing the fox ; then
again, in language suggested by a practice of
smoking foxes out of their kennels, he says Lafeu
first smoked him ; and, having thus come down to
a hunting term that had become colloquial, he, in
plain language, repeats " case him " by " when his
disguise and he is parted." In the next words of
No. 1 is a bird-catching phrase and metaphor.
This consideration that "casing the fox" is a
huntsman's phrase, and that in no other instance
in which Shakspeare uses " case " is there a hunting
allusion, sufficiently meets MR. JESSE'S objection.
With regard to Mr. FURNIV ALL'S, — which was also
my own, — the quotation and the fact that the term
was a hunter's technical are in themselves evidence
that they skinned their foxes, and, moreover, the
fox-skin was a used fur. But the translator of
1575 again gives us direct evidence. The fox was
coursed with greyhounds, and there were .two
chases, or huntings, one above ground and one
below. In the former, Blome tells us that all the
earths were to be stopped save one ; but the trans-
lator leads one to believe that all were stopped ;
and, speaking of the best season, says : —
"When yc leaues are falne, you shall best see your
houndes huting, and best finde his earths. And also at
y' tyme the Foxes skyn (which is [as with Parolles] the
best part of him) is best in season When he is
dead, you shall hang him vp on the end of a strong pyked
staffe, and hallow in all your hounds to bay him, then
make them reward with such things as you can get,
for the flesh of a Foxe is not to reward them w'all, for
they will not eate it."
Then in his next chapter — " Howe to digge for
a Foxe " — he is more convincing. Having recom-
mended the lord, or gentleman, to bring some half-
dozen mats to lie on while watching the diggers
* I am greatly inclined to believe, from the whole of
Helena's words here, that Shakspeare was taking occa-
sion to express his own, or his own and his fellow's,
thanks for some good offices thus received.
(though he thinks a leathern air-bed blown up
through a pipe in the corner a perhaps over-
luxurious accessory), and having suggested a cart
with tools, not forgetting " to cause his Cooke and
Butler to hang on it good store of bags and bottels
. ... for it will be both comely and comfortable,"
he goes on : —
"In this order of battel a nobleman or gentlema may
march to besiege the Foxe and Badgerd in their strongest
holes and castles and worke to them with Mynes
and countermines, vntill they get their skinnes to make
furres and myttens."
It may not be amiss to add that while " uncased "
meant stripped (Taming of the Shrew, i. 1), or
made naked (Ryder's Dictionary, s.v. "Exutus"),
it was used in less strict hunting language to mean
" cased," or " skinned." Thus, in The Almond for
a Parrat [1590] we have — "I tel you I am a
shreud fellow at the vncasing of a fox"; and in a
poem in Halliwell's Yorkshire Anthology, which I
judge to be circa 1640, the writer, defending old
servants whom some one had likened to dogs,
says —
" Hee can unkennell or uncase a fox."
At the same time, I cannot accept the saying of
F. J. V. (p. 172), for the genius of our language
does not require that " case," to skin, should be a
mutilated form of " uncase," or " embowel " of
" disembowel." BRINSLEY NICHOLSON.
No doubt this means to skin or flay an animal.
Polydore Vergel says—
" These things agree not with the opinion of Saxo
Grammaticus, whoe amrmethe that Juarus, when he
cowlde nott obteine his purpose in a lion's skinne, he
putte on the kase of a foxe, that is to saye, when with
strength he cowlde not prevayle, with Sublitee and dis-
ceyte hee ass-ayled his enemies."- — History of England,
Bk. v. p. 202, Camd. Soc.
EDMUND TEW, M.A.
"QUADRAGESIMALIS" (5th S. i. 408.)— This
term, as a personal title, seems to be unknown
to Oxford antiquaries, but it clearly refers in
some way to the disputations formerly required
from Bachelors of Arts, called Determinationes
Quadragesimales from being performed in Quadra-
gesima or Lent. Ayliffe (Ancient and Present
State of the University of Oxford, ii. 120) says that
" every Batchelor of Arts, after Admission to his
Degree, shall solemnly determine in Lent; and
these Lent Disputations are called Determinations
because they do determine and finish the Condi-
tions of a Batchelor's Degree, and truly compleat
the same." Eegulations about them will be found
in the Corpus Statutorum, tit. vi. (p. 30, ed 1768),
one of which, "De Collectoribus Quadragesimalibus
designandis," leads, I think, to the interpretation
of the term : —
"Cum multa antehac tumultuatio circa Electionem
Collectorum Quadragesimalium solita sit in Universitate
5th S. I. JUNE 27, 74.]
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contingere; juxta Statuta Regia a Serenissimo Rege
Carolo I. ad Universitatem transmissa decretum est,
quod Procuratores pro tempore existentes ex Baccalaureis
Determinaturis, in Festo Ovorum duos ad hoc officium
designabunt, singuli unum quern visum fuerit, in Collegio
quocunque vel Aula degentem."
By reference to the Catalogue of Oxford
Graduates, I see that the two persons designated
" Quadragesimales " were members of Pembroke
College, and gave the plate in 1653 and 1767 ; and,
by looking to the list of Proctors in the Ten Year
Book, I learn that, in 1652, Peter Jarsey of Pem-
broke was Junior Proctor, and, in 1766, Nathaniel
Haines of Pembroke was Senior Proctor ; and thus
they respectively had the right to nominate the
Collectors, and, according to usage, no doubt
nominated members of their own college. Thus I
infer that the collector was known, in the common
language of the University, by the title " Quadra-
gesimalis." " The Office of these Collectors is
equally to distribute (as far as possible) the deter-
mining Batchelors into certain classes, and to allot
each of them their schools separately," &c. (Ayliffe,
p. 121). In the Life of Antony Wood, p. 61 (ed.
Ecclesiastical Hist. Society), it is recorded that his
brother Edward, who was Junior Proctor in 1655,
appointed him his collector in Austins ; and, at p.
213, " This Lent the collectors ceased from enter-
taining the Bachelors by advice and command of
the Proctors. Vander Hwyden of Oriel was then
a Collector ; so that now they got by their
Collectorships, whereas before they spent about
100?., besides their gains or cloaths or needless en-
tertainments." This was in the year 1679. The
office apparently was somewhat lucrative ; and the
" Quadragesiniales " of Pembroke deserve our
thanks, not only for their generosity, but for
having preserved a title of which I know no other
instance. The word is familiar to us in another
respect in the Carmina Quadragesimalia, i. e.,
" qua? primo die Quadragesimse publice in Scholis
recitantur a Baccalaureis cuj usque Collegii Deter-
minantibus," as Antonius Parsons writes " Ad
Lectorem " in the 2nd vol. of the Carmina Quadra-
gesimalia, Oxonii, 1748. Had the two worthies
been Students of Christ Church, the conjecture
might have been hazarded that the Bachelors who
wrote the Carmina each year might have been
called " Quadragesimales," but I think that the
true explanation has been given above. In
Oxoniana, vol. iv., p. 181, there is an account of a
row (tumultuatio) arising from the compotations at
the election of collectors in 1607, showing the
necessity for such a statute as that of Charles I.
W. E. BUCKLEY.
The determining bachelors at Oxford chose, in
every Lent, a captain or chancellor, and beadles or
sergeants, who caused such disorder that the
University passed a statute to put down the
custom. I assume the word Quadragesimalis
meant that the cup was given by a determining
bachelor (see Stat., tit. vi., sect, ii., § 2, 6, 7, "De
Determinatione Quadragesimal! ").
MACKENZIE E. C. WALCOTT.
These, I take it, were penitential offerings.
Under Qudragesimale, Du Cange says : — " Elee-
mosyna, qure quadragesimali tempori fieri solebat."
The Qudragesima was the forty days fast before
Easter, our Lent. " Quadragesimals," says Cham-
bers (Cyclopaedia) —
"denote Mid-Lent contributions or offerings. It was
an ancient custom for people to visit their Mother-Church
on Mid-Lent Sunday, and to make their offerings at the
high altar; and the like was done in Whitson-week.
But as these latter oblations, &c., were sometimes com-
muted for by a payment of Pentecoslals, or Whilson-
f ar thing s ; so were the former, also changed into a
customary payment, called Quadragesimals, Denarii
Quadragesimales."
EDMUND TEW, M.A.
SPELLING REFORMS (5th S. i. 421, 471.)— I
cannot agree with MR. SKEAT, that either we
must entirely remodel our spelling or give up
all attempts to reform it. It certainly is not
a fact " that all experience shows that no spell-
ing reform has a chance, unless it shall be one
of a complete character, sticking at nothing"; on
the contrary, all experience shows that petty re-
forms in spelling are going on constantly, and have
been so from the earliest period of our literature to
the present hour, but that " complete " changes,
" stick! ng at nothing," have " no chance," one
great reason being that such a change would
render obsolete our existing literature, and no
reform in spelling would compensate for such an
evil. But why must the spelling of 1874 be
stereotyped ? Why must no change henceforth
pass over it I Why is 1874 to be the ultima
Thule of spelling, or of anything else? There
never was, and never will be, a " finality " in
spelling, any more than there ever was, or ever
will be,.a "finality" of reform, learning, science,
or art. Let MR. SKEAT take from his shelves
the first book he can lay his hands on, printed
in the earlier years of the present century, and
he will see in a moment that we have made
many changes of spelling since then. Let him go
back into the preceding century, and he will find
precisely the same process ; nay more, if he will
observingly read quite modern works, he will see
creeping in gradually here a word and there a
word, rescued from its abnormal spelling.
Let us take down any book — say Malone's
ShaJcspeare. I happen to draw out vol. vii. We
will open it at the beginning : "Henry IV., Part I."
Let us take the first Act : it will be quite sufficient
for our purpose. We will first jot down the
deviations of spelling from 1874 by Malone and
his brother commentators, and then we will make
a similar list of the words used by the authors
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[5lh S I. JUNE 27, 74.
cited from, and it will soon appear that our spelling
has never been stationary. My " Malone " bears
the date of 1816. The words in Act i. to be noted
are — frolicJc, dramatick, heretick, excuseable, cornicle,
cloaths (dress), physick, suburbial, designed, spyder,
and authour. Now take from the words cited by
these commentators, and we get the spelling of a
preceding period. The following is a list : —
gouvernour, earle, oyle, bealce, taile, fethers, anie,
foule, faire, ladd, castell, binde, beares, merrie,
pittie, brefe, pennilesse, politique, commoditie, un-
duely, lawfuly meane while, holde, dowries, beere,
merchantes', tynies, sacke, whitt, courte, physicke,
thinke, speake, deeme, sweete, moneths (months),
attaine, untill, deepe, apologie, peale, and eares.
Any other Act of this or any other of the plays
would furnish similar lists. I have put the words
down just as they occur that they may be verified,
if any one cares to take the trouble of so doing.
Now, if a correspondent of some learned periodical
in either of these periods had written a paper on
" Spelling Eeforms," and another had replied in
the words of MR. SKEAT, " all experience shows
that no spelling reform has a chance, unless it
shall be one of a complete character, sticking at
nothing," what should we say ? We should reply
that facts have proved the prophet was not very
far-seeing, for many changes of spelling have been
established, but no radical change " sticking at
nothing."
I am not so wedded to my own wishes and
opinions as to suppose for a moment that my
suggestions are to be final ; I ask the co-operation
of the learned readers of " N. & Q.," and say if
only a few of our irregularities can be removed,
we have gained something. If only such a slight
change can be effected as the omission of k -after c
(as in music), or of the needless e in minde, holde,
taile, &c., which we see has been already accom-
plished, it is worth something. I have not the
least wish to dogmatize — far from it. I ask the
co-operation of the learned and judicious; I am
sure they have regretted the evil, and wished it
could be remedied. Never was there such an
opportunity as the present. No book in the world,
by any author in the world, would speak with the
authority of " N. & Q.," which ' represents the
combined talent and judgment of all English
speakers. If the correspondents of this periodical,
which has opened its pages to the subject, will
take the matter up in a generous spirit, much may
be done ; but it is neither to be hoped nor wished
that a deluge should sweep over our spelling,
sinking all existing forms except a few favoured
ones. There is much chance of success in verbal
reforms which do not materially affect existing
literature, but none whatever of such a radical
change " as shall stick at nothing." I will only
further add the words of Professor Max Miiller, a
name which all philologists hold in honour. So
great an authority may perhaps have weight with
MR. SKEAT and those who think with him : —
" I feel very hopeful (says the Professor) that a begin-
ning will be made before long in reforming, not, indeed,
everything, but at least something, in the unhistorical,
unsystematic, unintelligible, unteachable, but by no means
unamendable spelling now current in England. It should
be made very clear that nothing like the Phonetic system
is intended."
In other words, the reform is to be a verbal
reform, and not " one of a complete character,
sticking at nothing." E. COBHAM BREWER.
Lavant, Chichester.
The etymon of derivative words in our composite
language is especially important; but it will probably
be asked why may not the vocalic varieties of able
and •ible, each being non-accentuated, be left in
their present combinations 1 The further reform
which the EEV. DR. BREWER has reserved, I pre-
sume, for his future prolusions, is the final e, not
mute, but denoting the open sound of the a in
"blame," and of the o in "force," heretofore absorbed
in the habitual forms of "blamable" and " forcible."
To these he will probably append the no less pre-
valent suffix -ing, in its connexion with the actually
mute e in the root words of rue-ing, sue-ing, owe-
ing, value-ing, and their half-dozen fellows. How
these several anomalies will meet the difficulty of un-
learning what we have been taught by our fathers,
and of unteaching what we have taught our child-
ren, the next generation will show.
EDMUND LENTHALL SWIFTE.
"S" VERSUS "Z" (5th S. i. 89, 135, 155, 455);
SPELLING REFORMS (5th S.i. 421,471.) — Our alpha-
bet, as MR. COLLINS observes, "has many ano-
malies " ; but they are orthoepic, not orthographic ;
they affect the ear, not the eye ; they are to be set
forth by speaking, not by " spelling." We who
are teaching our children as we were taught by
our parents, cannot readily throw ourselves and
them back upon the ABC and the primer. We
may converse about visits, and proposals, and roses,
or (as probably we soon shall) banx, and chex, and
boox, so long as we abstain from zedding or exing
our written correspondence.
UNEDA has favoured us with the intelligence
that " theatre is now theater," in America ; and,
enter not being spelled entre, that centre is, " ana-
logically," to be spelled center ; an inversion to be
followed, of course, by scepter, specter, and luster —
anywhere but in England, I trust, where no com-
posing-stick will be allowed to " knock out the i "
of friend or fiend. As the o of our adjectival ter-
minal, ous, has (orthoepically) been dropped into
the slovenly slipshod of grashus, preshus, vishus,
ojus, virchus, another " anomaly" is at wide work
among us, the confusion of our five vowels in their
irregular assumptions of each other's articulations.
Leaving orthoepy in the hands of DR. BREWER
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and UNEDA, let orthography be exempted from
the hazards of disestablishment. E. L. S.
RICHARDSON FAMILY (4th S. x. 392 ; xi. 160,
262.) — I regret that from various causes I was
prevented at the time from accepting MR. HELSBY'S
kind offer of a photo-lithographed copy of an early
charter relating to the family above ; but if he is
willing to renew it, I shall now be greatly obliged
to him for a copy, or for any other information
respecting either of the branches of the family
mentioned in 4th S. x. 392. KOYSSE.
"THE NIGHT CROW" (5th S. i. 25, 114, 293,
457.) — The chapter concerning this bird in the
De Proprietatibus Rerum of Glanvil is curious.
As it has also the advantage of being short, you
may probably find room for it : —
"DE NTCTICOKACE.
" Nycticorax est noctis corvus, sic dictus, eo quod
noctem amat, quia de nocte volans cibum quaerit et
quaerendo clamitat, cujus clamor est volucribus odiosus,
ut dicit Isidor. Est autem avis lucifuga et solera videre
non potest, sepulchra et loca mortuorum inhabitat et
frequentat, in parietibus et in locis ruinosis nidificat ova
columbarum et monedularum frangit et devorat, et cum
eis pugnat. Hsec dicitur noctua, quasi de nocte acute
tuens, de nocte enim videt, exorto autem splendore solis
ejus visus hebetatur. Hanc insula Cretensis non habet,
et si venerit aliunde statim moritur, ut dicit Isidor." —
Lib. xii. cap. xxvii., edit. Francofurti, 1601, p. 543.
The following is John Trevisa's rendering of the
above, as given in Berthelet's edition, folio, 1 535 : —
" The nighte crowe hyghte nicticorax, and hathe that
name, for that he loueth the nyght, and fleeth and
seketh his meate by nyght, and cryeth in sekynge : and
theyr crye is hatefull and odiouse to other byrdes, as
Isydore sayth, and is a byrde that fleeth the lyghte, and
maye not see the sonne, and haunteth and dwelleth in
burials and in places of deed men : and they make their
nestes in walles and in places with chynnes and hooles ;
and eate the egges of douues and choughes, and fyghte
with them. Also this byrde hyght Noctua, as it were
shareply seyng by nyghte : for by nyghte she may se, and
whan shynynge of the sowne cometh her syghte is
dymme. The Ilonde Greta hathe not this byrde, if he
commeth thyther out of other londes, he diethe anone,
as Isidore sayth."
EDWARD PEACOCK.
Bottesford Manor, Brigg.
BIGBY, PAYMASTER OF THE FORCES IN 1768
(5th S. i.428.) — Allibone (Dictionary of British and
American Authors, vol. ii., p. 1807) mentions the
following : — " Rigby, Rt. Hon. Richard, Paymaster
General, Account of his Extraordinary Services,
1780, 4to."; but I have never seen the book, and I
know of no other memoir of him beyond what may
be found in the Gentleman's Magazine and Annual
Register for the year of his death. He is chiefly
known as a close political follower of John, fourth
Duke of Bedford, who, with Lords Sandwich and
Gower, formed a party of their own during a por-
tion of the reigns of George II. and III., which is
generally known as the " Bloomsbury Gang."
Rigby entered Parliament as member for Castle
Rising in October, 1745. At the ensuing general
election (1747), he was returned for Sudbury ; and
from 1754 until his death (April 8, 1788), he re-
presented the Bedford borough of Tavistock,
General Fitz Patrick being his colleague during
the last fourteen years of that period. He also
represented Old Leighlin in the Irish Parliament.
He was appointed a Lord of Trade in December,
1755, and was secretary to the Lord Lieutenant of
Ireland (his patron, the Duke of Bedford) from
October, 1757 to 1761. In November, 1759, he
was made Master of the Rolls in Ireland, which
office he retained until his death. From December,
1762, until December, 1765, he was one of the three
joint Vice-Treasurers of Ireland, and was re-ap-
pointed to the same office in February, 1768, his
colleagues being James Grenville and Colonel
Barre. In the following July, he was made Pay-
master-General, which post he continued to hold
until the collapse of the North Administration in
1782. He supported the coalition in the following
year, but was again in a ministerial office. After
his death in 1788, at the age of 66, his name was
assumed by his nephew, Francis Hale, who repre-
sented St. Michael's 1779 to 1784, and died in 1827.
There are several detached allusions to Rigby in
Lord Stanhope's History of England. It was, I
suppose, in consequence of Rigby's connexion with
the Duke of Bedford in the character of man-of-all-
work and humble follower, that Mr. Disraeli used
his name as one peculiarly appropriate to a dis-
tinguished personage who plays a rery similar part
in connexion with a well-known nobleman in
Goningsby. ALFRED B. BEAVEN, M.A.
THE CUCKOO AND NIGHTINGALE (5th S. i. 387,
439.) — The folk-lore on this subject will be found in
Chaucer's poem, The Cuckoo and Nightingale. In
the modernized version by Wordsworth, it is said :
" But tossing lately on a sleepless bed,
I of a token thought which lovers need ;
How, among them, it was a common tale,
That it was good to hear the nightingale
Ere the vile cuckoo's note be uttered."
This idea is pursued at some length. Milton, in
his Sonnet to the Nightingale, repeats the same
idea : —
" Thy liquid notes that close the eye of day,
First heard before the shallow cuckoo's bill,
Portend success in love."
In a passage in The Gardener's Daughter, Tennyson
mentions the cuckoo and nightingale together ;
but I do not know of any folk-lore on this subject
that would connect their song with " a popular
prognostication as to the season which is to follow
from the fact of the cuckoo or nightingale being
first heard." CUTHBERT BEDE.
POETS AND PROPER NAMES (5th S. i. 464.) — 1.
It is doubtful (see Worsley's Homer) whether
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Hyperion is not accented on the penultimate by
poetical licence.
2. " N. & Q." some time since, in reply to an
inquiry of mine, mentioned Mr. Ball of Canton as
an actual person, referred to by Charles Lamb as
well as Praed.
3. If Canton has the ultimate accent, must it
not be a spondee 1
4. Who is the living author who elongated the
penultimate of lemures ? I wrote an article in
London Society on " The Art and Accomplishment
of Verse," but I have no recollection of even using
the word lemures. To make such a blunder would
scarce be possible to any one who reads Horace
daily : —
" Nocturnes lemures portentaque Thessala rides ? "
MORTIMER COLLINS.
Knowl Hill, Berks.
By the "Pearl Edition " of Byron's Works (Murray,
1867) W. T. M. will find that his lordship had
not forgotten his Juvenal, and that the word mis-
printed " horrid" in the old editions is, in the above-
mentioned edition, following the original MS.,
correctly printed horrible, " Before that horrible
tribunal." And, as regards the pronunciation of
Bolivar, I beg to quote Byron versus Halleck. The
former, in The Age of Bronze, has this couplet : —
"While even the Spaniard's thirst of gold and war
Forgets Pizarro to shout Bolivar."
FREDK. RULE.
Ashford.
" WlSE AFTER THE EVENT " (5th S. i. 409.) — Is
not this phrase taken from the French proverb
" Tout le monde est sage apres coup " '?
FREDK. EULE.
This expression was used long before 1840, as
the following passage from Ben Jonson shows : —
" Away, thou strange justifier of thyself, to be wiser
than thou wert, by the event." — Silent Woman, Act ii.
so. 2.
S.
THE NEW DODSLEY (5th S. i. 443.)— That hal/e
aker is the right reading in the passage referred to
I have no doubt. It was the common phrase for
a small piece of ground. It occurs twice in Piers
the Plowman, B-text, vi. 4, 5 : —
" I haue an half acre to erye [to plough] by the heighe
way;
Hadde I cried this half acre, and sowen it after,
I wolde wende with yow, and the way teche."
WALTER W. SKEAT.
1, Cintra Terrace, Cambridge.
LORD CHATHAM AND BAILEY'S " DICTIONARY "
(5th S. i. 448.) — QUIVIS is mistaken in supposing
that The Universal Etymological English Dictionary
of Nathan Bailey was originally published in 1730,
folio. The edition of 1730 may be the first folio,
but it is certainly not the first edition. There
was an earlier octavo edition, originally in one
volume, with a subsequent supplementary volume.
Both these octavo volumes were frequently re-
printed after the appearance of the folio, combin-
ing their information, but the first octavo was
much more frequently put to the press than its
companion, the second octavo. Neither Watt nor
Lowndes gives the date of the earliest issue of
either. Watt says the 1728 edition, 2 vols. 8vo.,
was the fourth ; Lowndes mentions an edition in
1726, 2 vols. 8vo. My own copy of the first
volume is the thirteenth edition, 1747, 8vo. Of the
second volume, I have the third edition, 1737, 8vo.
From the dedications of the two volumes to child-
ren of George Augustus, afterwards George II., it
may reasonably be inferred that the first volume
appeared between 1713 and 1721, the dates of the
births of Princess Elizabeth Caroline who is, and
Prince William Augustus who is not mentioned.
It may similarly be inferred that the second
volume appeared between 1721 and 1723, since
here Prince William Augustus is, and Princess
Mary is not, named. Moreover, the dedication to
the second volume states that an interval of ten
years had elapsed since the issue of the first,,
which seems to fix 1713 as the actual date of the
first edition of the first octavo. It may be added
that in the dedication of the first volume Bailey
correctly gives George and Caroline as the names
of the father and mother of the princes to whose
patronage he appeals. In the second volume,
wishing to be yet more exact, he gives them as
George Augustus and Wilhelmina Charlotte. The
name of George II.'s wife was, however, Caroline
Wilhelmina Dorothea. V. H. I. L. I. C. I. V.
PROFESSOR BECKER'S " GALLUS," &c. (5th S.
i. 461.) — The word Mr. Metcalfe has translated
" skin," is Schlauch in Becker, " a wine-skin," or
borachio in Spanish. Silenus is often represented
bearing one ; as also is Marsyas. And this surely
is the utriculus mentioned by Petronius, not a
bag-pipe. T. J. A.
THE "SWALESES' GANG" (5th S. i. 413.)— A-
good story is told of them. About the middle of
the last century a member, who had deserted a
nomadic life, became rich and respectable, and
one of his daughters married a gentleman who had
a sister that became the wife of an " Honourable."
The Swaleses took advantage of the last-named
marriage, and in a printed bill relating to their
various callings had the impudence to say " re-
spectable potters, relations of Lord ! " This
assertion was false, as there was no blood relation-
ship between them and the family of the Honour-
able Mr. . N.
TOPOGRAPHY OF NORTHUMBERLAND (5th S. i.
428.) — Mackenzie's View of Northumberland,
5th S. I. JUNE 27, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
515
Newcastle-upon-Tyne, 1825, vol. i. p. 390, foot
note. J. MANUEL.
"SERF" FOR "CERF" (5* S. i. 427.)— Here is
an instance of serf being written for cerf in Ok
French : —
"Quandle lion voit ou trouve un serf on une chieviv
salvage " (Oresme, Les Ethiques d'Aristote, publishec
1488). See Littre, Diclionnaire de la Langue Franqaise
For the Latin c being changed into s in French
compare Lat. cingula, Fr. sangle; Lat. amicitia
Old Fr. amistie. A. L. MAYHEW.
Oxford.
SONGS IN"EOKEBY" (5th S. i. 428.)— Some of
Sir Walter's songs have certainly been set to
music. " Summer's eve is gone and past " is
given with a voice part in Davidson's Universal
Melodist, ii. p. 123 ; but the composer's name is
not given. It is in the key of B flat. " 0, Lady,
twine no wreath for me " is, at p. 428, called " The
Cypress Wreath," and the music is by A. Ballan-
tyne. " I was a wild and wayward boy " is given
at p. 283, with music by W. Russell. " Allan-a-
dale '' was set to music by J. Mazzinghi.
C. A. WARD.
Mayfair.
I have in an old volume of music the following : —
"Allan-a-dale" Music by J. Mazzinghi.
" Song to the Moon " ... „ Dr. Jno. Clarke.
*' A merry lot is thine, Fair Maid " ,, do.
•" The Cypress Wreath " ... „ John Whitaker.
I have seen others set to . music, but do not re-
member the composers' names. A. COCHRANE.
" 0, Lady, twine no wreath for me," &c. This
was set to music by Sir John Stevenson, Mus. Doc.,
and published by Goulding D'Almaine & Co., 20,
Soho Square, London, under the title of " The
Cypress Wreath. The words from Rokeby, by W.
Scott, Esq." T. B. J.
WEST FELTON, SHROPSHIRE (5th S. i. 449.) —
The well A. E. K. asks about formed the subject
of inquiry in the "Bye-gones" column of the
Oswestry Advertiser, April 2, 1873. It was de-
scribed as a spring issuing out of Woolston Bank,
" over which had been erected a well and bath,
cruciform in shape, of the red sandstone of the
district, together with a timbered bath-house." A
writer (Dec. 3) states that it was " dedicated to
St. Winefred." A. E.
Croeswylan, Oswestry.
LEOLINE : CHRISTABEL (5th S. i. 405.)— Neither
of these is a very uncommon Christian name. Sir
Leolin, or Leoline, Jenkins, a noteworthy person,
of whom an account may be found in Wood's
Athena Oxon., Feb. 16, 1660, was the son of a
father who bore the same Christian name. For
Christabel I cannot at this moment give a reference,
but I have met with it several times in documents
of the sixteenth century. EDWARD PEACOCK.
Walter, vicar of Feldstede, and Leolin de Eocaio,
were appointed, under a power of attorney, to act
for Beatrice, Abbess of the Holy Trinity, Cadamo,
Jan. 30, 1288. (Rot. Pat., 16 Ed. I.)
HERMENTRUDE.
Leoline, like Christabel, " was a Christian name
before Coleridge's day." Leolin, son of Leolin
Jurd, was baptized in my church April 16, 1687.
T. LEWIS 0. DAVIES.
Pear Tree Vicarage, Southampton.
Christabel is a female name not obsolete in the
North of England. P. P.
WHITTLE-GATE (5th S. i. 407) is easily explained.
A whittle is a knife, and gait means going. The
privilege was a knife (and fork) going at certain
houses for so many days. Parkinson, in his Old
Church Clock, which is the biography of " Wonder-
ful Walker," a lake country clergyman, part of
whose stipend was in whittle-gaits, I think, explains
the term. P. P.
DAVID SCHOMBERG (5th S. i. 408.) — I think
there is some mistake with reference to his having
filled any important post at the Ordnance.
Frederick, Duke of Schomberg, was Master-
General of the Ordnance in 1689, and, according
to Haydn, no one of the same name had any post
there. One of his sons, Meinhardt Schomberg
(afterwards third duke), was Commander-in-chief
in 1695. EMILY COLE.
Teignmouth.
" OUT OF THE FRYING-PAN INTO THE FIRE "
(5th S. i. 449.)— The old Greek proverb, " Out of
ihe smoke into the fire," corresponds even more
closely to our English proverb than the Latin
quoted by MR. TEW from Tertullian. Plato uses
it (De Rep., viii. p. 569, B), thus : — /cat TO
^ -youevov, 6 Smios cievycov av /cairvov SovAetas
' 0, ' > " V '\ ? ' * '
•iiij-epcov eis Trvp ooi>Acov oecrTTOTCias av €//.7re-
TTTto/ccos eirj (utque in proverbio est, populus servi-
•utis liberorum fugiens fumum in flammam ser-
rorum dominationis incident). Stallbaum, in his
note on the passage, quotes the following from
Theodoret (Therap., iii. 773): — /cat TOJ> KO.TTVOV
•aTa rrjv Trapot/itav, cos eoi/ce, <£vyovTes «'s avrb
r) TO TTVp fU.TTf7TTWKafJieV. FR. NORGATE.
17, Bedford Street, Covent Garden.
" FAINTER HER SLOW STEP FALLS," &c. (5th S. i.
168.) — One of the Hon. Caroline Elizabeth Sarah
Norton's best poems. It was entitled " The Child
if Earth," and published before 1838 ; it well
leserves to be better known. The first verse, of
ive, is as follows : —
' Fainter her slow step falls from day to day,
Death's hand is heavy on her darkening brow ;
Yet doth she fondly cling to earth and say,
' I am content to die, — but, oh ! not now ! —
Not while the blossoms of the joyous Spring
Make the warm air such luxury to breathe ;
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Not while the birds such lays of gladness sing ;
Not while bright flowers around my footsteps wreathe.
Spare me, great God ! lift up my drooping brow ;
I am content to die, — but, oh ! not now ! ' "
J. W. E.
Molash, by Ashford, Kent.
THE SILVER MEDAL (5th S. i. 409) J. C. J. in-
quires about is one of many commemorating the
coronation of William III. and Mary. It was
struck in Holland. BELFAST.
" BEGGAR'S BARM " (5th S. i. 449.)— The word
'barm is derived from the Anglo-Saxon beorma,
fermentum, leaven, yeast, barm. It occurs in the
Gospel of St. Luke, xiii. 21, "Hit is gelic tham
beorman," where the meaning is "leaven." The
use may, however, be extended to everything
which ferments or leavens, and also beer may
have thus been called, which fits well for our
example. The froth of the water having the same
aspect as yeast, may therefore he called yeast or
barm, which would mean here a bad beverage,
that is to say, a bad beer, fit for beggars not well
able to pay for good ale. FR. EOSENTHAL.
Universitat, Strassburg.
GRANTS OF NOBILITY TO FOREIGNERS (5th S. i.
447.) — To supplement C. S. K.'s query by another,
will any one tell me whether heirs or collateral
descendants of the following foreign baronets exist ;
do any of them bear the title, or, if extinct, when
did they become so in each case 1 —
1644, Van Colster of Amsterdam ; 1644, De Boreel of
Amsterdam; 1652, Curtius of Sweden; 1658, Carpen-
tier of Brussels ; 1660, De Merces of France; 1660, De
Raed of Holland; 1660, Mottet of Liege; 1661, Van
Freifendorf of Herdick, Sweden; 1674, Trump, Vice-
Admiral of Holland ; 1675, Tulpe of Amsterdam; 1680,
Sas Van Booch, servant to the Prince of Orange ; 1682,
Gans of Holland, with remainder to Grouburt and his
heirs; 1686, Speelman of Holland; 1699, Vanderkrande ;
1709, Neufville of Frankfurt.
I should also be very glad to hear through these
columns of an actual case of a foreigner baronet at
this present time. S. Powis GREY.
JOB'S DISEASE (5th S. i. 465.)— In the " Eegis-
trum" of the Augsburg Missal of 1510 occurs
this mass, " De beato Job : contra morbum galli-
cum." The mass itself is unfortunately wanting
in my imperfect copy, but is in the edition of 1555,
where it is more vaguely indexed " De sancto Job
contra infirmitatem." The section for the Epistle
is Job ii., the Ofiertorium Job i., much abridged.
The Collect and Secret refer to " ulcera pessima,'
but there are no special references to the " morbus
gallicus " in the mass itself. J. T. F.
Hatfield Hall, Durham.
A Catalogue of the Library of the Royal Medica,
Society of Edinburgh was published in 1845.
Has CYRIL looked in this? The question was
noticed by Corderius in his Comment, (in c. ii.
v. 7), p. 39, Par., 1866, who observes that it was
ntertained by Pineda. Like many other things
which re-appear from time to time, it is not new.
Pineda lived A.D. 1557-1637. E. M.
PRINCES OF THE BLOOD EOYAL (5th S. i. 467.)—
Has not MIDDLE TEMPLAR overlooked the fact
that the Duke of Cambridge is the grandson of
George III. ; and does not this, on his own show-
ing, account for the Duke taking precedence of
the Archbishop of Canterbury 1 F. H. H.
THE CROWNS WORN BY THE KINGS OF ENGLAND
(5th S. i. 468.) — Some description of these will be
found in the Saturday Magazine, voL x. p. 15, and
vol. xii. p. 237. WILLIAM BLOOD.
Liverpool.
DESCRIPTIVE CATALOGUES (5th S. i. 428.) — I
should think B. C.'s question has remained un-
answered from the inability of your readers to
understand his question. The only way seems
to be for one to make guesses at what he means,
and then answer them on the chance of hitting
the right thing. But after vainly trying even
this, I give it up in despair, as it would occupy
too much space. Perhaps B. C. will define
what he means by " the art of forming a descriptive
catalogue of a library " 1 OLPHAR HAMST.
B. C. might obtain the information he requires
by consulting A Descriptive Catalogue of Books in
the Library of John Holmes, F.S.A., with Notices
of Authors and Printers. Norwich, 1828-40.
GEORGE POTTER.
42, Grove Road, Holloway, N.
TELLING FORTUNE BY THE CARDS (5th S. i. 387)
is a well-known pastime on the Continent. It is
called in French " faire une reussite," and many
ladies are fond of it. HENRI GAUSSERON.
Ayr.
MARY J. JOURDAN (5th S. i. 435.)— A. G. says
she died on the 23rd Dec., 1865. The Gentleman's
Magazine for Feb., 1866, p. 288, says 22nd Dec.—
"At 19, Westbourne Park, Mary, widow of Col.
H. G. Jourdan, of H.M.'s Madras Army." The
two works he names are entered under her name
in the Eev. F. J. Stainforth's sale catalogue
(Sotheby's). Will MR. CHARLES MA«ON oblige us
with the date of the Colonel's death?
OLPHAR HAMST.
THE " JACKDAW OF EHEIMS " (4th S. i. 577 ; ii.
21, 237.) — In addition tp the passage previously
referred to by myself, in which the legend of the
jackdaw of Eheims is given as historical, I may
now add that, according to one of John Dunton's
amusing folios (The Young Student's Library, 1691,
p. 403), the incident is also given in the Holy Re-
creations of Father Angelina Gazee. The first
part of the Pia Hilaris of Augelinus Gazseus op-
5th S. I. JUNE 27, 74.]
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peared in 1618, the second in 1638. Brunet styles
them " poesies mystiques." It would be curious
to compare the poetry of the two reverend gentle-
men (Gazseus and Barham) who have given this
legend in rhyme. W. E. A. A.
Rusholme.
SURREY PROVINCIALISMS (5th S. i. 361, 434.) —
I am anxious to make some corrections in the
list already published in "N. & Q." (p. 361),
and also to add some local words and phrases then
omitted.
In the first word, " adle," the a is long ; the word
is also pronounced " erdle."
For " cluddy " read cludgy.
Omit flummox as not strictly a Surrey word in
the sense of "to scare." Men will call each other in
jest " old flummox."
Gratten. It appears that this word is applied
to wheat as much as to other corn. The clover
leys are also termed " sheep grattens."
The following is a list of additions : —
Amendment, pronounced "mendment," a dressing of
manure. Land that is impoverished is said to want
" mending,"
Appeal to, to find benefit from, be partial to; e.g.,
"How do you find the whisky I sent you suit you."
" Oh, very well, I appeal to it very much."
Chastise, not in the sense of corporal punishment, but
to scold violently, sometimes also merely to question.
Denial, detriment, drawback ; e. g., any bodily in-
firmity is said to be a great " denial " to such a one. So
Halliwell.
Flawing, Barking oak timber. Halliwell gives it as a
Kentish word. I believe it to be peculiar to Kent,
Surrey, and Sussex. •
Hap, for perhaps ; also as a verb. To " hap " on any
one is to light on, or meet with.
Holp, to help ; also to pass on or deliver to; e.g., one
gives a message or parcel to such a one, and the recipient
says, "If you leave it with me, I'll 'holp ' it to him."
Justly, exactly, accurately. Common phrase, in answer
to any inquiry, "I can't justly tell."
Lent corn, the general name for spring corn.
Long, great, numerous. A "long " age is a very great
age ; and a "long " family is a very numerous one.
Peart, pronounced as a dissyllable, " lively," " brisk ";
said of men or animals. So Halliwell.
Poults, a mixed crop of peas and beans, a crop not un-
common in- the district.
Sere, withered, dry, used of the leaves in autumn.
Sere wood is the common term, as distinguished from
green wood.
Shires, the, pronounced " shears." Any person not be-
longing to Kent, Surrey, or Sussex, is always spoken of
as having come somewhere out of the " shires."
Shore, to prop up ; Shore, a buttress. Halliwell gives
" shore-post " in this sense.
Shut ; to get "shut " of, is to get rid of.
Tellar, a sapling. Halliwell gives "tiller" in this
sense, of which probably it is a corruption.
Topping, influential. A man of local position and
influence would be described as a "topping" man in
those parts.
Unaccountable, a common • adjective of intensity ;
e. g., one goes " unaccountable " fast or slow ; work is
" unaccountable " hard, " unaccountable " slack, &c.
Wonderful is used exactly in the same sense (conf. Ger-
man wunderbar).
Use, to accustom to ; I'll " use " him to it, I'll accustom
him to it.
To keep " all on" going is to keep on the move;
to keep " all on " terrifying is to be perpetually
worrying. "As the saying is" is equivalent to
" so to speak." A man who cannot account for
anything, says he can't tell what the " fancy of it "
is. A deaf man is always said to be "hard of
hearing." To be taken ill is to " be took wus."
A thing is not spoilt, but " spilt." A farseeing
man is described as a man with a " forecast " to
him. " Mate," pronounced ma-at, is the common
designation among equals. "Squire," once the
universal appellation of the landed gentleman, is
now almost extinct. Put is pronounced like but;
surely, and all adverbs in ly, have a strong accent
on the last syllable. Labour is very " comical "
just now was the expression used to me by an
employer the other day, meaning thereby, ticklish,
difficult to manage ; but it is the only time I have
heard the word in this sense.
GRANVILLE LEVESON GOWER.
Titsey Place, Surrey.
SHADDONGATE (5th S. i. 328, 395.)— MR. CHAT-
TOCK'S interpretation of the name of this gate —
one at Carlisle— may be held as dubious. Cad, or
cath, in the Celtic, has been corrupted to cat, but
never, as far as known, to shad. This gate (way,
lane, or passage), to distinguish it from others,
would be called shaddon ; and the question is, what
may be its origin ? If don is the Celtic dun, — a
round hill, and one which was generally fortified, —
which it may be, the next point is, what is the
root of shad, used here adjectively, as is evident,
characterizing the dun? But there is another
view. Don may be a corruption of ton, or toun,
and Shad a personal name=Shad's-ton (the habi-
tation of Shad) ; and, as it may be mentioned, at
Glasgow, and now within the city boundary, is a
piece of land which belonged to that bishopric as
early as 1170, and was callad Schedine's-ton (the
dwelling of Schedin), otherwise Inienschedin, and
Mineschadin, also Villa filie Sadin, and now, by
great corruption, Shettleston. This Sadin (who, as
it would seem, had a daughter) is said to have
been brother to the famous St. Patrick, who, as
many allow, was born at Kilpatrick on the Clyde,
near Dunbarton ; but, as others think, Sadin was
a Saxon colonist (Orig. Par. Scotie, vol. i. 11).
So, as Shaddon, and Schadin in the place-name
Mineschadin, are very much alike, there seems room
to conjecture that Shaddon-gate is just Schadin's-
gate. Carlisle and Glasgow, as well as Kilpatrick,
and Dunbarton (Dun-briton), were all within an-
ient Cumbria, or Strathclyde ; and if Sadin was
of renown at Glasgow, it is only to be believed
ihat it would extend to Carlisle. The fact that
the surname " Shedden " (Schedin ?) is very com-
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mon in the shires of Lanark, Dumbarton, Renfrew,
and Ayr (Scotland), seems to aid this latter view
of the origin of Shaddon materially. L.
THE MORGUE (5th S. i. 248, 295.)— Whilst the
Siestion of the register is raised, can anybody give
e derivation of morgue itself. Morgue, s. f.=
contenance meprisante, Huet derives from murus
=musus de /XVTIS, nez ; Manage from micare,
sauter. Brachet, in his admirable Dictionary, says
of the word in both its significations, " origine in-
connue." I am not able to refer to what Littre
says, but I find that the Morgue is not confined to
Paris, but that in many towns in France there is
such a place, where dead bodies are exposed for
recognition, generally at the entrance to a prison.
Tarver says it is a prison term, being the inspec-
tion-room where new inmates are made to sit to
be looked at, that the gaolers may be able to know
them again. Morgueur is the gaoler whose more
especial duty is to inspect the features. All this
arises from the inspection taking place in the
chamber called the morgue. Having arrived thus
far, we need only take one step more to supply
the missing link which explains all reasonably,
if even it should not prove to be correct.
This first chamber at the prison entrance was
naturally the chamber of the watch. They as-
sembled there for their rounds, and the city watch
returned there from their rounds. Guet is a watch,
vacta, Low Lat. wacta, German wacht. When they
brought in dead bodies it was called un mortguet,
a dead watch ; drop out the two ts in lapse of
time, and you get the word morgue. This only
explains the terme de prison, not the contenance
meprisante. Webster suggests a Gaelic origin for
that. C. A. WARD.
Mayfair.
Will not " Maccabees " be a corruption, or a mis-
take, for Macabre 1 That well-known subject the
Dance of Death is also called the Dance of
Macabre, a word said to be a mistake for Ma<»,-
rius, St. Macarius having introduced the legend.
P. P.
JOCOSA (5th S. i. 108, 155, 194, 357.)— Felicia
may be less grammatical than Jocosa, but it is
quite as old a name. " Henry Le Despenser and
Felicia his wife " occurs in Rot. Pat., 29 Ed. I.
(1300-1). HERMENTRUDE.
EPITAPH ON A TOMBSTONE AT , NEAR PARIS
(5th S. i. 46, 95, 178.)— On looking over a volume
of the Gentleman's and London Magazine, or
Monthly Chronologer, published at Dublin, I
found in the number dated February, 1782, the
accompanying lines, embodying a riddle somewhat
resembling the epitaph quoted at p. 46 by MR.
OAKLEY ; and, as he stated that there were different
forms of the puzzle, I send this as one. It is evi-
dent the same answer will not do, as the persons
must be three male and three female. I confess
my disinclination to " think it out." I may add
that no author's name was appended : —
"A PARADOXICAL WEDDING.
A wedding there was and a dance there must be,
And who should stand first? Thus all did agree :
Old grandsire and grandam should lead the dance down,
Two fathers, two mothers, should step the same ground;
Two daughters stood up, and danced with their sires ;
(The room was so warm that they wanted no fires) ;
And also two sons who danced with their mothers ;
Three sisters there were, and danced with three brothers;
Two uncles vouchsafed with nieces to dance ;
With nephews, to jig it, it pleased two aunts;
Three husbands would dance with none but their wives,
(As bent so to do the rest of their lives) ;
The grand-daughter chose the jolly grandson ;
And bride she would dance with bridegroom or none ;
A company choice, their number to fix,
I told them all o'er and found them but six ;
All honest and true, from incest quite free,
Three marriages good : — pray how could that be ] "
H. SKEY, MUIR, M.D.
Belfast.
NOTES ON BOOKS, &c.
The Worls of Alfred Tennyson. Early Poems. Cabinet
Edition. (H. S, King & Co.)
THIS is the first volume of a new, a cheap, and an elegant
edition of the works of the Poet-Laureate. It is printed
in fine bold type, it is portable, and it has one of
Mayall's best photo-portraits of the poet by way of
frontispiece. All this is good news for the general
public, who may be " half sick of shadows " like the
" Lady of Shallot," and may find something to relieve that
painful sense in these " Early Poems," in which the pro-
mise is more beautiful than the finished performances of
some bards who have swept the lyre for a lifetime. The
series will consist of ten volumes. Let us note, apart
from this exquisite collection of supreme thoughts finding
supreme expression, that, in the advertising appendix,
there is an announcement of " Goethe's Faust, a new
translation in rime, by the Rev. C. Kegan Paul."
A Handbook of Travel-Tall; leing a Collection of Ques-
tions, Phrases, and Vocabularies, in English, German,
French, and Italian, intended to serve as Interpreter to
English Travellers Abroad, or Foreigners Visiting
England. A New Edition, carefully Revised. (Murray.;
As the primrose, " first child of Ver," is, according to one
of the old poets, —
"Merry spring-time's harbinger,"
so does the appearance of a new " Murray," in its crim-
son livery, give warning to those tired of "housekeeping"
that the time for their yearly exodus is nigh at hand.
The last of these monitors has just reached us in the
shape of a new edition of the Handbook of Travel-Talk,
which claims justly to be an exception to the ordinary
run of books of this class, which are for the most part
distinguished by containing everything but what is wanted.
The work before us is the 'reverse of this, and if the
traveller has the smallest idea of German, French, or
Italian grammar, and will then " speak by " Mr. Mur-
ray's " card " or book, he may safely travel where he
lists, without any fear that an equivocation will undo
him.
5'" S. I. JONE 27, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
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Haydn's Dictionary of Popular Medicine and Hygiene ;
comprising all possible Self-Aids in Accidents and
Disease : being a Companion for the Traveller,
Emigrant, and Clergyman, as well as for the Heads of
all Families and Institutions. Edited by Edwin Lan-
kester, M.D., assisted by Distinguished Members of the
Royal Colleges of Physicians and Surgeons. (Moxon,
Son & Co.)
IF the man who is his own lawyer has a fool for his
client, it is equally true that, under serious circumstances,
the man who is his own doctor has a simpleton for his
patient. Even medical men, when they are ill, mistrust
themselves, and invariably seek aid from a brother
practitioner. In the last century, Buchan's Domestic
Medicine relieved a large suffering population ; Haydn's
Dictionary of Medicine, edited by Dr. Lankester, comes
to the succour of the present generation. It is as a
resident medical man in the family, always at hand in
an emergency. Probably few families will be found
without this valuable addition to books of reference.
Dan an Deirg, agus Tiomna Ghuill (Dargo and Gaul) :
Two Poems, from Dr. Smith's Collection, entitled the
Sean Dana. Newly Translated, with a Revised Gaelic
Text, Notes, and Introduction, by C. S. Jerram, M.A.,
formerly Scholar of Trin. Coll., Oxon. (Edinburgh,
Maclachlan & Stewart.)
IN this volume Mr. Jerram gives a rhythmical English
prose translation, with the Gaelic text opposite, and the
variant readings at the foot of the page. As descriptive
of his work, we cannot do better than quote the trans-
lator's own words : — " The Introduction contains a short
account of the Sean Dana, and critical remarks on Dr.
Smith's paraphrase ; concluding with a fair statement of
the arguments on both sides of the Ossianic controversy.
The book is intended both for English readers and for
students of Gaelic ; and for the benefit of the latter a
few grammatical observations have been introduced into
the notes. The author commends his work to the notice
of all who are interested in the ancient language and
literature of the Scottish Highlands, in the study of
which he has long felt increasing satisfaction."
The Mouldings of the Six Periods of British Architecture,
from the Conquest to the Reformation. No. III. The
Ornamentation of the Transitional Period of British
Architecture, A.D. 1145 — A.D. 1190. By Edmund
Sharpe, M.A., F.R.I.B.A. No. II., Part I. (E. &
F. N. Spon.)
No words on our part are needed to commend such
studies as these, and from such a pen, to architectural
students, for they are a necessity in their professional
training.
Eclipses, Past and Future ; with General Hints for 01-
serving the Heavens. By the Rev. S. J. Johnson, M.A.,
F.R.A.S. (Parker & Co.)
THE writer's original object was to bring out two
volumes ; one, containing a description of eclipses, past
and future ; the other, a cycle of celestial objects coming
within the range of a 4-inch telescope. By wisely
abridging and amalgamating both works, Mr. Johnson
has provided a volume of great use to those interested in
astronomical science. Notices of eclipses from the
earliest days to the present time are given, and, whilst
a list is added of those of the Sun and Moon for the next
forty years, the eclipses of the Sun are marshalled in due
order for five hundred years to come. Mr. Johnson ob-
serves that, if his long search be accurate, it has not
revealed one solar eclipse total at London.
WITH reference to the threatened ecclesiastical legis-
lation, Dr. Pusey reprints, by request (Parker & Co.), his
three letters t« LLc Tl:"::, -.vith „. Preface. It is to be
hoped that, on account of its own value and as contribu-
ting to the literature of the subject, the Professor will
think fit to issue, in an authoritative form, the address
he delivered last week in St. James's Hall. — On the same
subject, too, is Christ, or Ccesar ? a letter to the Arch-
bishop of Canterbury, by the Rev. A. D. Wagner, of
Brighton (Rivingtons). To this letter is appended a
paper of reasons, put out in 1871, for disobeying, on
principle, the ecclesiastical judgments of the Judicial
Committee of the Privy Council. — From Messrs. Riving-
ton we have received Selections from Livy, by Messrs.
Calvert and Saward, masters in Shrewsbury School. It
is intended for school use, and the selections are made
from Books VIII. and IX. Notes and a map are sup-
plied. Also Outlines of Latin Sentence Construction. —
A great deal has appeared lately in " N. & Q." on the
" Bibliography of Utopias " ; we refer, then, our corre-
spondents to Amalyrac : a poem (Balding, Wisbeach). —
How to see Bristol, by J. T. Nicholls (Arrowsmith, Bristol).
No visitor can complain, through want of assistance, of
not being able to see thoroughly the interesting old city
of Bristol. The city librarian has provided for the wants
of the excursionist by furnishing him with a guide which,
possessing a map and street plans, will render any ques-
tioning of the passer-by, even in the most intricate
thoroughfares, perfectly needless. — Bullies from the
Deep (Dean & Son) is the title of a volume containing
sonnets and poems, by Arthur Greaves. — Mr. T. Samp-
son, F.R.H.S., sends us The Legend of the Holy Thorn
(Coates, Yeovil). — The Sportsman's Guide (52, Fleet
Street), besides supplying time-tables to the ordinary ex-
cursionist in Scotland, gives the followers of Isaac
Walton ample information in regard to its lochs and
rivers. — Those who are inclined to believe in Spiritualism,
but are willing to hear the other side, should get Mr.
Ashcroft's lecture (Tweedie). "Thou comest in such a
questionable shape " is Mr. Ashcroft's motto. — In
Twelve Scotch Songs (Whittaker & Co.) Mr. Gordon Camp-
bell proves himself capable of writing poetry well
adapted to music. — For reference, May's British and
Irish Press Guide for 1874 (160, Piccadilly) is most useful.
GENEALOGICAL OMISSIONS, &c. — According to a state-
ment in a recent paper, the author of a work of refer-
ence has excluded a certain family from his book
(which professes to give all families of the same class)
because, in his opinion, an individual member of the
family is obnoxious. Apart from the merits of the case,
1 am inclined to think that, on principle, such an ex-
clusion would be very detrimental to a work professedly
of( reference, for if carried farther this principle would
lead to the mutilation of all our well-known genealogies.
To omit a member spoils the record of the species. In
zoology and history the same proposition of the qualifi-
cations of beauty or merit would lead to a R. a. A. Q.
FLY-LEAF INSCRIPTIONS. — The Intermediate furnishes
the following pretty ex libris, which probably dates from
the seventeenth century : —
" Cheres delices de mon ame,
Gardez-vous bien de me quitter,
Quoiqu'on vienne vous emprunter ;
Chacun de vous m'est une femme,
Qui peut se laisser voir sans blame
Et ne se doit jamais preter."
MEDAL MONEY. — A copper piece, affecting to be of
ten centimes, has got into a certain circulation in France,
of which a note may be fittingly made. It bears the
head of Napoleon III. in a Prussian helmet. Around
the neck is a dog's collar, with a ring. Upon it is in-
scribed " Sedan." The circular legend is " Napoleon III.,
le Miserable ; 80,000 Prisonniers." On the reverse, an
owl perched on a cannon ; around, " Vampire Francais.
2 Dec., 1851. Sept., 1870."
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LEADBEATKR (C. ), Treatise of Eclipses. 1731.
PRESTON GOILD, Account of. Manchester, 1762.
TURTON PAIR, a Picturesque Description of. By Wm. Sheldrake.
Bolton, 1789.
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THE SPANISH CONQUEST IN AMEBICA. By Arthur Helps. Vol. IV.
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to
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Worthies of All Souls, has effectually overthrown the old
belief that the former qualifications of All Souls' Fellows
consisted in being " bene nati, bene vestiti, et moderate
docti." He states that "the only authority for 'bene
nati' is ' de legitimo matrimonio nati' — a common pro-
vision in college statutes. The words 'bene vestiti' are
not found at all, but seem to be taken from the statute
that the Fellows should dress as becomes the clerical
order, 'sicut eorum honestati convenit clericali,' and that
when in Oxford or its suburbs they should wear the
customary academical dress. The ' mediocriter docti,'
which was the unkindest cut of all, as conveying the idea
of an unlearned body of Fellows, was simply obtained by
leaving out the remainder of the original sentence ; and
even for the words themselves there is no authority.
The expression is ' grammatica sufficienter, et in piano
cantu competenter eruditi.' "
T. R.— The brass gun at Dover (p, 500), called " Queen
Elizabeth's pocket pistol," was (says Murray) "really a
gift from the Emperor Charles V. to Henry VIII. It is
graced by a Dutch verse, to this effect : —
' O'er hill and dale I throw my ball,
'Breaker,' my name, of mound and wall.'
A popular rhyme, which runs —
' Load me well and keep me clean,
And I '11 carry a ball to Calais Green,'
is supposed to refer to this gun."
TIRE-LIRK. — The lines (not worth repeating) are part
of a comic song from a strange dramatic farce : — "No6,
ou le monde repeuple, Vaudeville, en un acte, tire de
1'ancien testament. Par Citoyen A. Martainville. Re-
presente a Paris, le 25 Floreal, An 5." It was published
in the following year, 1797, by the well-known Barba.
With regard to the second query, our reply is that
" Maurice de Podestat " was the pseudonym under which
M. Edouard Delprat published his Comedies de Boudoir.
P. M. — The term " Prime Minister " seems originally
to have belonged to " Slang." In Sir Robert Walpole's
reply to Sandys's motion (1741) to dismiss Walpole from
the service of the country for ever, the great statesman
said : — " Having invested me with a kind of mock dignity,
and styled me a Prime Minister, they impute to me an
unpardonable abuse of that chimerical authority, which
they only created and conferred."
L. COOPER. — It was an ancient custom for the new
Lord Mayor of London to be sworn in by the Constable
of the Tower, on a platform erected outside the Tower
gate. This, however, only took place when the Barons
of the Exchequer were out of town. Lord Cornwallis,
as Constable, thus swore in the new Chief Magistrate of
London in 1741.
A. M. — Mr. Johnson observes in his work, noticed in
another part of our columns, that we must wait till
A.D. 2285 before Easter Sunday falls again on March 22,
its earliest possible date. It did so the last time in
1818. It fell on April 25, its latest date, in 1734, and
will do so again in 1886, 1943, 2038. It fell on April 24
in 1859, but will not do so again till 2011.
L. S. E. — The best possible idea to be had of the late
M. Van de Weyer,— of the man, the scholar, the states-
man, patriot and philosopher, — is to be found in the two
volumes of the series, " Les Fondateurs de la Monarchic
Beige," entitled Sylvain Van de Weyer, by Theodore
Juste, and published in 1871 by Triibner & Co.
A. S. — "The all-swallowing vase at Bath Easton " was
in the house of Mrs., afterwards Lady (or, as Walpole
called her, " Calliope ") Miller. The lady's puests put
their literary effusions into the vase, from which they
were drawn and read aloud. Consult Walpole, Miss
Seward, Dr. Whalley, and Mrs. Elizabeth Montagu.
W. T. M., in the lines printed at p. 495, has trusted to
memory, both as to text and author. For a correct ver-
sion, he is referred to The Fudges in England, by Tom
Moore. Letter Third. From Miss Fanny Fudge to her
cousin, Miss Kitty .
W. M. M. — Debrett's House of Commons and the
Judicial Bench gives the arms and the mottoes of cities
and boroughs which send members to Parliament.
LINA.— A reference to your French Dictionary would
have shown you that tete is feminine, but tete-a-tete is
masculine.
SHERRAKDS. — The epigram on Queen Anne's statue, in
front of St. Paul's, is too familiarly known to bear re-
petition.
F. H. G. (Wickham Market.)— We shall be glad to
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G. GARWOOD will find his questions solved in any ele-
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Index Supplement to the Notes r.nl \
Queries, with No. 29, July 18, 1874. J
INDEX.
FIFTH SEEIES.— VOL. I.
[For classified articles, see ANONYMOUS WORKS, BOOKS RECENTLY PUBLISHED, EPIGRAMS, EPITAPHS, FOLK-LOBE,'
PROVERBS AND PHRASES, QUOTATIONS, SHAKSPEARIANA, and SONGS AND BALLADS.]
A. (A.) on revenging Flodden, 125
Windsor (Edw.), notes by, 305
A. (A. S.) on Black Priest of Weddale, 89
Conyngham family, 329
Cork (Bp. of), 1425-49, 466
Cromer (Geo.), Abp. of Armagh, 382
DeQuincis, 98
Eleanora, Princess of Salms, 207
Plagal, its etymology, 415
Ilegistrum sacrum Batavianum, 182
Boss (Bp. of), in Scotland, 1417-20, 82
Swale family, 476
Valet (Bp.), his consecration, 73
Abbey tokens, 201
Abbotsford in 1825, 65
Abided for Abode, 149
Acacia and freemasonry, 57, 197, 316, 457
Academy of Antient Music, 63
Accidents, epidemics in, 445
Acton (P.) on "From Greenland's icy mountains," 37
Adallinde, mother of Thierri, 27
Adam, his first wife, 387, 495
Adam, why it means North, South, East, and West,
305, 433
Adams (B. W.) on Sherlock arms, 394
Adamson (Abp.) of St. Andrews, 268, 354
Addis (J.) on " Album unguentum," 254
" A lowits," its meaning, 273
Burns at Brownhill Inn, 259
"Christian Year," 277
Col- in col-fox, 372
Commas, inverted, 336
Fuller (Dr.) « Pisgah-sight of Palestine," 271
Knight Biorn, 215
" Lombard Street to a China orange," 337
Parallel passages, 326
Poetical resemblances, 274
Ringleader, 317
St. George and the Dragon, 276
" That beats Akebo," 317
Ulster words and phrases, 374
"Address to the Stars," its author, 167, 234
Advertisement, the earliest, 331
" JEU& Laelia Crispis," enigmatical name, 100
Affebridge : Eoding, 39, 118
Africa, a sea-port town, 487
African aggry beads, 259
A. (F. S.) on " Ah inward creya," &c., 149
"Bible adapted," by B. Wynne, 247
Hanging in chains, 35
Mnemonic calendars, 58
Oil of brick, 97
Agas (Ralph), fac-simile of his map of London, 318
A. (EL S.) on bibliographical works, 436
Ecclesiastical Gallantry, 328
" Fair Concubine," 28
Portraits, etched female, 269
"Belies of a Saint," 209
A. (H. W.) on Buyton, in Shropshire, 275
Aikman (B. ), editor of Yale College Magazine, 448
"Aimless," a poem, 188
Ainger (A.) on Milton's "L'Allegro," 406
Shakspeare and Chaucer, 125
A. (J. H. L.) on Lord Ligonier, 178
Albany (Countess of), her tomb at Florence, 3iG
Alberic XII. of Est<$, 489
Album unguentum, its meaning, 167> 254
Alcina, palace of, 188, 234
Alderney : Aurigny's Isle, 268, $)0, 320
Alexander II. of Bussia, his titles, 464
Alexander (Sir William), poetical works, 278
Allarium, its meaning, 167, 233
Alleyne (Edward), letters to his wife, 160
Allington (T.), minor poet, 288
Allnutt (W. H.) on C. Owen of Warrington, 90, 238
Almondsbury church, co. Gloucester, epiUph, 30(5
A lowits, its meaning, 175, 273
Alpress family arms, 489
j Altar frontals, 109
Altars in the middle ages, 9, 58 ; stone, 286, 375
Ambassadors, the ten, 127, 155
America = the Unknown, 326
America, Indian deed of conveyance, 166, 219, 358;
and the antiquity of its name, 247
American civil war, its histories, 74, 157, 472
American worthies, 316
Americanism, 358
(An-, ofer)gart, Old English words, 368
Anagrams, 200, 239
Andrews (W.) on epitaph on Dan BoswelJ, 325
522
INDE
X.
f Index Supplement to the Notes and
I Queries, with No. 29, July 18, 1874.
Andrews (W.) on Candlemas gills, 508
Mumming, 383
Anecdotes, book of, 248, 295
Anglo-Scotus on Black Priest of Wed dale, 176
Animals, early British, 268
Anne (Queen), "Indian chapel of the Onondagas,"
248, 413
Anon, on poem by W. M. Praed, 364
Shelley : " To the Queen of my Heart," 403
Anonymous Works: —
Adamina, a novel, 348
Addresses, with Prayers and Hymns, 348
Adventures of an Attorney, 349
Ailzie Grierson, 348
Almeda ; or, the Neapolitan Revenge, 348
Alphabet of Animals, 348
Althorpe Picture Gallery, 348, 435
Apologia Petri Antonini Michelotti Tridentini,
249
Arcandam, or Alcandrin, 48, 135, 277
Archidoxes, 368, 475
Australian dramas, 423
Biographical Peerage, 128, 191
Bonaparte (Lucien), Memoirs, 50
Cabinet (Le) Jdsuitique, 387
Caffs' (Le), ou L'Ecossaise, 50, 114, 216, 317
Campaigns in the Years 1796-9, 50
Charles Auchester, 208, 240, 259
Derechos del Hombre, 488
Dumouriez (Ge'ne'ral), La Vie du, 334
Ecclesiastical Gallantry, a satirical poem, 328
Enderby, a tragedy, 49, 154, 423
Enthusiast, a play, 509
Essay toward the Proof of a Separate State of
Souls, 494
Facetiae Facetiarum Pathopoli, 168
Fair Concubine, 28, 76, 172, 216
Family Library, 98
Forging of the Anchor, 288, 335
France, the Historic of, 148
Fulvius Valens ; or, the Martyr of Ceserea, 288
Glory of their Times ; or, the Lives of the Pri-
mitive Fathers, 408
Legends of Glenorchy, 408
Letters on Mr. Hume's History of Great Britain,
50, 335
Life of a Lawyer, 349
Lombardes Ancient Laws, 148
Mathematical Recreations, 269, 334, 458
Medulla Histories Anglicanze, 14
Merchant Taylors' Miscellanies, 49
Notes on the Four Gospels, 335, 374
Orvina, a drama, 423
Passionate Remonstrance, 7
Practical Christian, 35
Private Memoirs and Confessions of a Justified
Sinner, 388, 453
Proces (Le) des Trois Rois, 468
Prognostication for the year 1569, 148, 215
Quadrans Astrolabicus, 249, 415
Reginald Trevor, 86, 413
Relicks of a Saint, 209
Residence in France, 282, 354
Revolution de France, Histoire de la, 50, 216
Anonymous Works : —
St. Stephen's, 50, 373, 396, 457
Salus Populi, 507
Sibilla Odaleta, 489
Sketches of Imposture and Incredulity, 98
South Sea Sisters, dramatic cantata, 423
Syracusan Gossips, translation, 423
This World and the Next, dramatic poem, 423
Thule : Memoirs of the Nobility, Gentry, &c., of
Thule, 227
Town Eclogue, 289, 432
Vacation, a poem, 328, 376
Wisdom 's Better than Money, 149
Anthem: Anthymn, 68, 134
" Anthithese de 1'Oraison Dominicale," 367
Anthology, Greek, 88, 117, 155, 277, 479
Antient, a military term, 408
Anwyl, a Welsh word, 85, 413
Apparitions, spiritual, 13, 132, 289, 381
Appleton (W. S.) on Edmund Perceval, 28
Arc (Joan of), her death, 400
Arcandam, or Alcandrin, Arabian astrologer, 48, 135,
277
Archer family of Kilkenny, 167
A. (R. E.) on Spurring, a provincialism, 177
Arithmetic : casting out nines, 88, 332
Armorial book plates, 386
Arms, royal, in churches, 37, 98 ; of English counties,
130, 195. See Heraldry and Heraldic.
Armytage (D.) on " Derechos del Hombre," 488
Spanish verse, 507
Armytage (G. J.) on F. Ayscough of Osgoodby, 88-
Arnet (Rev. G.), A.M., vicar of Wakefield, 268, 414
Arnot family, 414
Aroint, in Shakspeare, 163
Art-Catalogue of the London Corporation Library, its
errata, 101
Artists, Dictionary of English, 39
Asgill (John), biographical note, 420
Assizes, maiden, 226
A. (T.) on Philip of Spain and the Garter, 148
Atchin, " Jacobus " piece in the Kraton, 506
Athens called the violet-crowned city, 93
A. (T. J.) on coin or token, 117
"Gallus," Prof. Becker's, 514
Newton (Sir I.) and smoking, 234
Attwell (H.) on Catherine pear, 128
Roman Catholic caution against praying to imagej,
406
" Auld Wife Hake," 468
Aurigny-Alderney, 268, 300, 320
Australian drama, 423
"Austrian Army " paraphrased in Latin, 54
Author and Publisher, 205
Automata, wonderful, 306, 395, 354
A. (W. E. A.) on the "Jackdaw of Rheims," 516
Selenginsk printing, 485
Ayscough (Frances), relict of Sir William Ayscough, 88
B
B. (A.) on Greek anthology, 155
Letch : Ing, 373
Leyden University, 498
Milton : " That sanguine flower," &c., 414
Index Supplement to the Xotes nnd "I
Queries, with No. 29, July 18, 1874. S
INDEX.
523
Bacon (Francis), Baron Verulam, Latin version of his
"Essays," 13, 79, 176; quoted, 14; his Essay "Of
Plantations," 409, 453
Badges, French Revolution official, 61
B. (A. H.) on Epitaphs, 105, 444
Hart Hall, Oxford, 74
Bailey (J. E.) on Cotton's " Medley," 147
Fuller (Dr. Thomas), 89, 123, 168, 271, 447
Koyalist declaration, 9
Savoy Chapel, 188
Shakspeare read in 1655, 354
Shakspeariana, 404
Bailey's "Dictionary," early editions, 448, 514
Baily (J.) on anthem : anthymn, 134
Calendar, date of a, 136
" Legem servare," 453
Bainbrigge (J. H.) on Milgate arms, 227
Balitenid, its locality, 508
Balk, its derivation, 80
Ballad MSS., the Tytler and Glenriddell, 346
Balmford (William), author of " The Seaman's Spi-
ritual Companion," 367
Banns of marriage published on market days, 87, 155
Barbor, the almost martyr, jewel and portrait, 89, 136
Bardolf family of Wirmegay, 227, 293, 418
Bardsley (C. W.) on English surnames, 352, 470
Barham (R. H.), lines on Dean Ireland, 65
Barnefeld (John of), passages in Motley's " Life," 508
Barnes family, 14, 56, 97
Barns for beggars, 206
Baronetcies, unsettled, 125, 194, 252
Barrovius on ague cures, 287
Arithmetic : casting out nines, 332
Greek anthology, 117
Barrow (Dr. Isaac), master of Trinity, 69, 196, 237,
317 ; entries in Wicken parish register, 436
Bar Sinister, 268, 314, 418
Batenham (G.), "Etchings of public buildings in
Chester," 48
Bates (W.) on Carmoly's "Histoire dea Me*decins
Juifs," 27
Hauser (Caspar), 69
Bavin = bundle of firewood, 46, 94
Baxter (Sir David) of Kilmarron, arms, 108
B. (B.) on Academy of Antient Music, 63
B. (B. H.) on St. George's loft, 154
B. (C. C.) on parallel passages, 426
Beale (J.) on cipher-writing, 445
Kelly (Dr.) on the Manx article, 244
Shakspeariana, 484
Short-hand writing, 196
Town's hall, 285
" Bears, The Three," a nursery tale, 508
Beauchamp (S.) on " Man-a-lost," 490
Beaven (A. B.) on Rigby, paymaster of the forces, 513
Woodstock M.P.s, 355
Becker (Prof.), " Gallus," the skin of Silenus, garum
and sumen, 461, 514
Beckford (William), his burial-place, 460
Beddy = Conceited, in Ulster, 245, 374
Bede (Cuthbert) on B&ique, its derivation, 233
" Christian Year," 276
Church notices, 5
Cuckoo and Nightingale, 513
" Forging of the Anchor," 335
Bede (Cuthbert) on Gipsy custom, 353
Laurel folk-lore, 504
"Man-a-lost," 384
Sunflower as a preventive of fever, 256
"Bee Papers," 9, 35
Beggar's barm, origin of the term, 449, 516
Beggars' barns, 206
Bell inscriptions, in the City of London, 239 ; at North
Otterington, 444 ; from Service-books, 465
Bellman's verses, 285
Bells, notes on them in the Builder, 140 ; royal heads
on, 235, 417 ; tolled at death, 309, 374
Bene't College, Cambridge, 167, 255
Benson (John), publisher of Shakspeare's " Sonnets,"'
343
Bere Regis church, its monumental brass, 50, 74, 117,
133, 154, 176, 231, 257, 296, 335
Berkeley (Sir John) of Beverston, descendants, 228
Berkshire customs, 339
Berneval (G. de) on American civil war, 157
American worthies, 317
Arithmetic : casting out nines, 332
Finseus (Orontius), 415
Gee (Rev. E.), works, 138
Jay : Osborne, 437
Penn pedigree, 315
Quiros (P. F. de), biography, 452
Bertie (Peregrine), inscription, 366, 474
Betts (B. R.) on heraldic queries, 188, 336
Beveridge (Bp. William), his simile, 314
Be'zique, its derivation, 167, 233, 357, 419
B. (G. F.) on Dr. I. Barrow, master of Trinity, 237
B. (H.), pseudonym, 60
B. (H.) on Adam's first wife, 387
Edwards, of America, 408
Epigrams, 226
B. (H. A.) on Quiz, its derivation, 452
Solidarity, use of the word, 492
B. (H. J.) on Pascal's " Provincial Letters," 328
Bible, adapted by Richard Wynne, 247 ; the Book of
Jasher, 289, 431 ; note on Psalm xc. 10 in tho
" Speaker's Commentary," 507
Bibliography of Utopias, 78, 237 ; Continental works
on, 227, 276, 436
Bibliothecar. Chetham on Rev. E. Gee, works, 237
Moses of Chorene, 297
Owen (Charles) of Warrington, 157, 498
Peck's Complete Catalogue, 55
Binz (Prof.), experiments on alcohol, 368
" Biographica Dramatica," a French, 247; Oxberry's,.
375, 418, 457
Biorn : Knight Biorn, 167, 215, 356
Birch (Col. John), military memoir, 258
Birds of ill omen, 38, 138, 236, 298
Birmingham, modern, and its institutions, 80
Birne iron and marking iron, 167, 232
Births, extraordinary, 249, 313, 454, 498
Bishops, their titles, 92, 310
Bittern and night-crow, 293, 457, 513
B. (J.) on Capt. Grant and Sir Wm. Grant, 50
Story, an old, 107
B. (J. B.) on the meaning of drawback, 509
Oil of brick, 53
B. (J. E.) on Roger Daniel, 288
Fuller (Francis), funeral sermon, 209
524
INDEX.
{Index Supplemnut to the Notes and
Queries, with No. 29, July 18, 1874.
B. (J. G.) on Rev. Stephen Clarke, Sermons, 438
York Minster on a coin, 325
B. (J. N.) on Quiz, origin of the word, 346
B. (J. R.) on " Antient," a military term, 408
Mew (Peter), Bp. of Bath and Wells, 294
Black-a-vized, or vic'd, a provincialism, 64, 116
Black Priest of Weddale, 89, 176, 269
"Black Watch," why so called, 260
Bladud (King) and his pigs, 289, 416
Blair (D.) on Byron and Chalmers, 405
Queries, various, 427
Shakspeariana, 404
Blechynden (Richard), 368, 475
Blechynden (Samuel), 368, 475
Blenkinsopp (E. L.) on the Book of Jasher, 289
Collie dogs, 458
Livingstone (Lieut.-Col.), 1689, 277
" Testament of the Twelve Patriarchs," 308
"Violet, the Napoleonic flower, 79
Wiggs= Cakes, 474
Blidworth church, Notts, inscription, 147
Blodius, its meaning, 167, 233, 353, 491
Blomfield (G. B.) on papal blasts against tobacco, 345
Blood (W.) on knurr and spell, 348
Population two hundred years ago, 495
Bloody, origin of the vulgar epithet, 37, 78, 278, 377
Blue, sacred to the Virgin Mary, 397; as an ecclesias-
tical colour, 491
B. (N. J.) on sprinkling rivers with flowers, 505
Boddington (R. S.) on Wood family, 409
Wyat family, 287
Bodelschwingh (M. de), Prussian statesman, 428
Body-snatching in 1732, 65
Boleyn family pedigree, 2, 45, 95
Boleyn (Queen Anne), priority of her birth, 2
Bolingbroke (H. St. John, Lord), political tracts, 307
Bolton (Lavinia Felton), Duchess of, portrait, 488
Bonaparte (Napoleon), the violet an emblem of his
dynasty, 18, 79; his baptismal name, 386; and the
Book of Revelation, ib.
Bondmen in England, 36, 118
Bone (J. W.) on cymbling for larks, 27
Notaries' marks, 489
Book-inscriptions. See Fly-leaf inscriptions.
Book-plates, armorial, 386; exchanged, 60, 199
Book-prefaces, their introduction, 367
Books, errata in, 6
Books recently published: —
Agas (Ralph), Civitas Londinum, 318
Alexander (Sir William), Poetical Works, 278
Amalyrac, a Poem, 519
Bartley's Seven Ages of a Village Pauper, 398
Bible, The Speaker's Commentary, 39; Wylie's
Pictorial Dictionary, 299
Bibliothega Cornubiensis, 19
Birch's Records of the Past, 139
Blunt's Dictionary of Sects, 139
Borrow's Romano-Lavo-Lil, 338
Boswelliana, 420
Bradley 's Presuppositions of Critical History, 460
Bristol, Guide to, 519
Burges's Models for Adornment of St. Paul's, 398
Busk's Folk-Lore of Rome, 139
Calendar of Carew Manuscripts, 239
Books recently published: —
Calendar of State Papers : Domestic Series
Charles I., 1639, 179
Camden Society : Letters addressed from London
to Sir Joseph Williamson, 219 ; Military
Memoir of Col. John Birch, 258
Campbell's Scotch Songs, 519
Carew Manuscripts, 239
Chandos Classics, 440
Chronicles and Memorials of Great Britain and
Ireland : Register of Richard de Kellawe, 399
Church's Sacred Poetry of Early Religions, 440
Clarendon Press Series : German Classics, 179
Clarke's Comparative Grammar of Egyptian,
Coptic, and [Jde, 159
Colet's S. Paul's First Epistle to Corinthians, 439
Conway's Sacred Anthology, 319
Cooke on the Power of the Priesthood in Absolu-
tion, 60
Courthorpe's Paradise of Birds, 119
Coxe's Apollos; or, the Way of God, 459
Cunningham's Tales, 360
Dan an Deirg, by C. S. Jerram, 519
Debrett's Baronetage, 139
Debrett's Illustrated House of Commons, 380
Debrett's Peerage, 139
Deutsch (Emanuel), Literary Remains, 159
Dixon's History of Two Queens, 119
Dodd's Sayings ascribed to Our Lord, 258
Dodgson's Euclid, 440
Drummond of Hawthornden, by D. Masson, 18
Early English Text Society : Vision of William
concerning Piers the Plowman, 59; Generydes,
ib.; Myroure of Qure Ladye, ib.; History of the
Holy Grail, 459; " Geste Historiale" of the
Destruction of Troy, 499; Cursor Mundi, ib.;
Blickling Homilies of the Tenth Century, ib.
Every Morning, 338
Facetisa Musarum Delicise, 80
Family Worship Book, 179
Gardner's Longevity, 278
Gatty's Sheflield, Past and Present, 179
Geddes's Lecture on the Celtic Tongue, 440
Greaves's Bubbles from the Deep, 519
Hall's Child's First Latin Book, 399
Haydn's Dictionary of Popular Medicine, 519
Herald and Genealogist, 99
Heywood's Proverbs, by J. Sharman, 359
Holmes's Latin Pronunciation for Beginner.--, 338
Hone's Works, 477
Hooper's Little Dinners, 339
Hosack's Mary Queen of Scots, 319
Johnson's Eclipses, Past and Future, 519
King's Th« Disciples, 39
Langford's Modern Birmingham, 80
Latin Year, 199
JJetts's Diaries, 60
Livy : Selections, by Calvert and Saward, 519
M 'Caul's Dark Sayings of Old, 180
Mackay's Lost Beauties of the English Lan-
guage, 99
Marshall's Account of IfHey, 199
May's Press Guide, 519
Micklethwaite on Modern Parish Churches, 299
Millington's Guide to Latin Prose, 239
Index Supplement to the Notes and)
Queries, with No. 2U, July 18, 1874. /
INDEX.
525
Books recently published: —
Mitchell on the Book of Jonah, 238
Motley's Life and Death of John of Barneveld, 139
Murray's Handbook of Travel-Talk, 518
Neaves's (Lord) Greek Anthology, 479
New Quarterly Magazine, 120, 299
Nicholas's British Ethnology, 499
Nizami, Life and Writings, 459
Norman People, 319
Orkneyinga Saga, 80
Owen's Lyrics from a Country Lane, 239
Paget's Paradoxes and Puzzles, 298
Perry's Dulce Domum, 119
Philips's Handy General Atlas of the World, 238
Plato, by C. W. Collins, M.A., 198
Popular Science Review, 299
Post-Office Library Catalogue, 440
Poulet (Sir Amias), Letter- Books, 459
Quarterly Review, 119, 359
Redgrave's Dictionary of Artists, 39
Revue Bibliographique Universelle, 459
Robertson's History of the Christian Church,
299, 459
Rose's Columbus, a Historical Play, 120
Roxburghe Ballads, 379
Ryle on Disestablishment, 440
Sampson's Legend of the Holy Thorn, 519
Sempill Ballates, 18
Shakspeare: King Edward the Third, 458; Frag-
ment of Mr. HalliwelFs "Illustrations," 479
Sharpe's Mouldings of British Architecture, 519
Slafter on Vermont Coinage, 440
Slang Dictionary, 159
Sportsman's Guide, 519
Stratton on the Hebrew Language and the
Celtic, 239
Studies in Modern Problems, 158
Studies of Man, 420
Tennyson (Alfred), Works, 519
Thornbury's Old and New London, 299
Tichborne Trial compared with previous Impos-
tures, 239
Timbs's Anecdote Live?, 139 ; Year-Book of
Facts, 398
Tourist's Church Guide, 380
Tozer's Lectures on the Geography of Greece, 99
Treasury of Knowledge, 139
Treatise on Purgatory, 99
Visions ! by a Converted Man, 99
Vogel on Beer, 440
Vyner's Every Day a Portion, 198
Wagner's Christ, or Caesar ? 519
Weigall's Memoir of the Princess Charlotte of
Wales, 198
Wesley Family, Musical Talents of, 440
Weymouth on Early English Pronunciation, 460
Whitcombe's Bygone Days in Devonshire and
Cornwall, 99
Wilkes, Sheridan, Fox, by W. F. Rae, 79
Winscom's Waves and Caves, 99
Wit Restor'd, 80
Wit's Recreation, 80
Wy lie's Pictorial Dictionary of the Bible, 299
Yonge's History of the English Revolution of
1688, 479
"Bookseller," its American chorography, 346
Bookworms, how to prevent or kill, 460
Bosh," its derivation, 389
Boss, its meaning, 221, 253, 356
Bossy (Dr.), itinerant empiric, 111
Both, a proper dual, 226
Boucher (Rev. Jonathan), biography, 102
Bouchier (J.) on Palace of Alcina, 234
Boucher (Rev. Jonathan), biography, 102
Browning's " Lost Leader," 138, 213
Guillotin (Dr.), his natural death, 426
Paris prisons, 468
Prison Memoirs, 447
Spelling, peculiar, 425
" Vengeur," sinking of the, 502
Bovey family, 48
Bowen (H. C.) on crowing hens, 296
Warlock, its etymology, 397
Brach, a bitch-hound, its derivation, 54
Bradley arms, 469
Bragge (W.) on " Escrivano de Molde," 89
Brash (R. R.) on Campbells and Grants, 46
Brenda on Peter Mew, Bp. of Bath and Wells, 247
Breton (Nicholas), his religion, 501
Brewer (E. C.), Note-book extracts, 58, 173, 264
Spelling reforms, 421, 511
Briar-root pipes, 335
Bristol, Guide to, 519
British Museum, Catalogue of the Cartes Antiques, 328
British Museum duplicates, 494
Britten (J.) on candles lighted at Christmas, 379
Dar-Daoal, or black insect, 215
Martinmas ballad, 355
Museums and Natural History Societies, 318
Pipes, briar-root, 335
Plant stained with blood at the Crucifixion, 415
Prayer, special forms of, 98
Spanish folk-lore, 504
Spy Wednesday, 275
Brockie (W.) on Spechyns, its meaning, 496
Broctuna on ring motto, 55
Brook (Nathan), " Complete List, Military," 47
Brooks (C. Shirley), death of, 180
Brougham (Henry, Lord), strange dream, 132 ; anec-
dotes, 372
Brown (J.) on corpses seized for debt, 490
Browne (E. C.) on " Anthithese de 1'Oraison Domini-
cale," 367
"Arcandam," 277
Cervantes and Shakspeare, 133
Euthanasia, 16
Greene's "Menaphon," 334
Lampedusa in 1690, 406
Lark and toad, 98
Lord's Prayer, royal and republican, 234
"Medulla Histories Anglicanae," 14
Rowan (A. H.), 310
Shadows before, 284
Shakspeare and Kyd, 462
Shakspeare queries, 342
Shakspearian traditions, 124
Browning (Robert), "Lost Leader," 71, 138, 192,
213, 292 ; " Good News from Ghent to Aix," 71,
174, 298, 418
Bruce (Robert), death of his queen, Elizabeth, 27
526
INDEX.
(Index Supplement to the Notes aud
Queries, with
ith No. 29, July 18, 1874.
Bruyn (Nicolas de)-, engraver, 148
B. (R. W.) on anonymous works, 148
Bryant (F. J.) on Devonian superstition, 204
Brydges (Sir Egerton), " Biographical Peerage," 191
B. (T. J.) on "Death of Nelson," 314
Buckley, or Bulkley families, 409
Buckley (W. E.) on " Christian Year," 195, 312
"Notes on the Four Gospels," 374
Quadragesimalis, 510
Buda: Pest: Ofen, 287, 374, 417, 458
Bugabo, its meaning, 372, 475
Bull-baiting and bull-beef, 181, 274, 312, 455
Bullein (William), "Dialogue," 158
Buhner (Agnes), " Messiah's Kingdom," 149, 218
Bumper, its derivation, 100
Bunyan (John), his occupation in Bedford Gaol, 483 ;
the "Den" in "The Pilgrim's Progress," ib.
Burbage on "Love's Labour's Lost," 368
Burial in an orchard, 126; in parish coffin, 166
Burley (Sir John), temp. Richard II., 88, 136, 158
Burnett (Dr.), itinerant empiric, 111
Burning alive for sorcery, 486
Burning the dead, 28, 116
Burns (Robert), unpublished songs, 29 ; " The Merry
Muses of Caledonia," ib.; and Sterne, 164; at
Brownhill Inn, 235, 259 ; " Ode on the American
War," 242; autograph, "To Terraughty on his
Birthday," 283 ; " The rank is but the guinea's
•stamp," 164, 274
Burra way inscription in Martham church, Norfolk, 339
Busts turned to the wall, 93
Butler (Samuel), alchemist in " Hudibras," 489
Butterfly, its etymology, 493
Buttevant viscounty, 108, 175
B. (W.) on Lawyers, licence assumed by, 102
Hepeck, its derivation, 17
Shakspeariana : "Scarre," 304
B. (W. D.) on Martinmas ballad, 127, 356
Norfolk epitaph, 85
B. (W. E.) on Swale family, 253
Bygoe family, 269
Byron (George Gordon, 6th Lord), lines addressed to
Mr. Hobhouse, 56 ; in Scotland, 65 ; the Coliseum
and "Childe Harold," 387; and Chalmers, 405;
two blunders in " The Siege of Corinth," 465
C
C. on Abbotsford in 1825, 65
Byron (Lord), in Scotland, 65
Italy, travelling in, (1832), 266
" Paradise Lost," 286
Pope (A.), " Essay on Criticism," 126
Stael (Madame de), 326
•C. (A.) on enigmatic epitaph, 95
Cairnes (Major), circa 1770, 368
Caistor whip, 506
Cake, therf-, thar-, haver-, and thark-, 424
Calcutta relic, 466
Calendar temp. Edward II., its date, 88, 135 ; repub-
lican, 281, 354
Calendars, mnemonic, 5, 58, 179, 257, 358
Called home = publication of banns, 87, 155
Cambridge, Corpus Ch. College, formerly Bene't Col-
lege, 167, 255
Cameron (A. G.) on Capt. Grant, R.N., 196
Campbell family name, 46
Campbell (Thomas), " The Dirge of Wallace," 85 ;
pronunciation of Wyoming, 385, 464
Campkin (H.) on Hogan, drinking, 14
" Can " used in the future tense, 205
Canada, its meaning, 97, 497
Candlemas gills, at Horbury, co. York, 508
Candles lighted at Christmas, 379
Canterbury Cathedral, freemasonry in, 328, 394
Carabiniers and Mousquetaires, 64
Carfax at Oxford, origin of the name, 80
Caricature, "Gaillardise du Commun Jardin," 248
Carins (W. D.) on F. Rolleston, 388
Carleton (Mary), so-called German princess, 228, 291
Carlisle, the Shaddongate, 328, 395, 517
Carlyle (Thomas), unpublished MS. lectures, 299 ;
article in the Quarterly, 427
Carmoly (C.), /' Histoire des Me'decins Juifs,"' 27
Carols, 15
Carpathian Mountains, works on, 328, 375
Carr=Carse in field-names, 35, 131, 311, 409
Gary (W. M.), jun., on Wilson arms, 49
Case=to skin, 172, 278, 318, 509
Caser wine, 39, 79
Cast, the best, a prophecy, 58
Catalogues, descriptive, 428, 516; Fine Arts, 446
Catherine pear, 128, 174, 257
Cattle and the weather, 54, 138, 278
Catworth, Great, co. Hunts, longevity of its rectors, 66
Cayles, a mediaeval game, 47, 91, 196
C. (B. H.) on Alberic XII. of Eats', 489
C. (E. H.) on Greenwich Observatory, 8
Centaury, its properties, 54, 237
Centenarianism, ultra, 221. See Longevity.
Centenary Club, 50
Cerevisia=beer or ale, its derivation, 485
Cerf written "serf" in old French, 427, 515
Cervantes, did he die before Shakspeare? 97, 133;
translation of " Persiles and Sigismunda," 428
Cevallerius (Anthony Rodolphus), professor of Hebrew,
temp. Elizabeth, 134
C. (G. A.) on Bardolf family, 227, 418
Heraldic queries, 48
Valoines barony, 368
C. (H.) on flag of England, 64
Chafewax, or Chaffwax, his duties, 80, 192
Chalice, spiders, &c., in, 286, 372, 456
Chalmers (Dr. Thomas) and Byron, 405
Chamberlain, Lord, his inspection of plays, 106
Chance in turning cards, 465
Chance (F.) on Punctuation, marks of, 455
Salisbury : L and W for R, 481
Chap-book literature, 54, 109
Chapman gill, a toll, 327, 375
Chapman (George), dedication to the old edit, of
" Homer's Iliads," 164
Chapman (J. H.) on Swale family, 188, 297
Charade, French, 385, 475
Charles I., account for his interment, 145, 219, 456; as
a poet, 322, 379, 435; warrants for his execution, 407
Charles II., Bible presented to, 8, 454
Charnock (R. S.) on Adam's first wife, 495
Barnes as a surname, 1 4
Buda, on the Danube, 374
Derbeth, its derivation, 218
Index Supplement to the Notes and)
Queries, with No. 29, July 18, 1W4. /
INDEX.
527
Charnock (K. S.) on Desier, a Christian name, 214
Finstermunz, Pass of, 214
Gipsy native names, 325
God wit, its derivation, 212
Gordano, 14
Jay: Osborne, 195
Letch: Ing, 373
Massena (Marshal), 334
Mistal, its derivation, 318
Pilcrow, paragraph mark, 492
Sele: Wham, 276
Shakspeariana : Hamlet, 263
Shottesbrooke, its derivation, 255
Simpson, its derivation, 165
Surnames, English, 330, 471
" Tempora mutantur," &c., 372
Warlock, its etymology, 396
Charon and Contention, a dialogue, 115
Charon (Pierre), " De la Sagesse " quoted, 25
Charters, metrical, 157, 217, 337; ancient, 308
Chatham (William Pitt, Earl of) and Bailey's " Dic-
tionary,'' 448, 514
Chatsworth, noticed in a "Journal" of 1797, 386
Chattock (C.) on Shaddongate, its etymology, 395
Chaucer (Geoffrey), his fellow squires, 34; and Shak-
speare, 125; a test for the genuineness of some of
his poems, 185
Chauceroie (Geffroy de), 50
C. (H. B.) on Cowper : Trooper, 316
Hart Hall, Oxford, 178
" Jerusalem Conquistada," 416
Tea, 473
C. (H. D.) on Italian works of art at Paris in 1815, 56
C. (H. E.) on Prince Rupert, his arms, 198
Cherries and the Holy Family, 15
Chess played by an automaton, 306, 395, 454
Chesson (F. W.) on Freemasonry in Canterbury Ca-
thedral, 328
MiU (John Stuart), 315
Chevalier (Rauf le). See Cevallerlus.
Chichester, arms of the see, 15, 177, 217, 359, 450
Child (F. J.)onTvtler and Glenriddell ballad MSS., 346
Chitteldroog on Poplar wood, 96
Eeynolds (Sir J.) : Miss Day : Mrs. Day, 115
Cholmeley (Sir Eoger), portrait, 209
Christ (Jesus), "Toledoth Jeshu," 308, 430
Christabel as a Christian name, 405, 515
Christian names: Jocosa, 108, 155, 194, 357, 518;
Desier, 148, 214, 355, 498; Cornish, 385; Pente-
cost, 402, 472 ; Christabel and Leoline, 405, 515
Christie (E. C.) on Anna Tanaquil Fabri filia, 395
Anonymous books, 216
Christmas, lighted candles at, 379
Christmas Eve custom in Herefordshire, 54
C. (H. T.) on Field-lore, 412
Church-door notices where there is no church, 5
Church of England, penance in, 16, 58 ; Communion
fast in, 307
Church seats, 226
Churches, royal arms in, 37,' 98; funeral garlands in,
12, 57, 79; dimensions of the principal, 140
Churchill=Widville, 288
Cidh on Duns Scotus, 488
Cipher writing, 445
Circulating libraries, early, 69, 154
Cistercians, works on the order of, 15
Civilis on the origin of the gipsies, 325
C. (J.) on aroint, in Shakspeare, 163
C. (J.) of R, on Field-lore : Carr, &c., 376
C. (J. C.) on " 'Twas at the Birthnight Ball," 448
C. (J. H.) on Cornish Christian names, &c., 385
Clark (J. H.) on Eev. Stephen Clarke, 438
Clarke (Mrs. C.), omission in her " Concordance to
Shakspeare," 485
Clarke (H.) on Feringhee and the Varangians, 113
Folk-lore and railways, 44
Clarke (M.) on "Quintus Servington," 188
Quiros (Pedro F. de), explorer, 208
Utopias, their bibliography, 237
Clarke (E.) on Burns's " Ode on the American War,"
242
Clarke (Eev. Stephen), sermons, 208, 255, 298, 438
Clarry on Like as a conjunction, 176
Clary, a medieval wine, 107, 193, 213, 297
Cleghorn (G.) on Lt.-Col. Livingstone, 1689, 108, 357
Cleghorn (Robert) and Burns, 29
Clergymen, cases of their longevity, 66
Clifford (Adm. A.) on Archibald H. Rowan, 309
Climacteric, a second-first, 88, 152
Clockmakers of London, 29, 116
Clogstoun family, 208, 294
Closh, a mediaeval game, 47, 91, 196
Cloth of state, its meaning, 37, 378
Clough (J. C.) on Adam's first wife, 495
Epitaphs, 245
Eeresby (Sir J.), Memoirs, 168, 419
Clowtes : wayneclowtes, and plogh clowtes, 167, 232,
338
Clubs, four of, 68
Coast of lamb, 188, 213
Cobham (Sir Ealph), his family, &c., 208, 294, 397
Cochrane (A.) on songs in " Eokeby," 515
Codd=pensioner at Charterhouse, its derivation, 508
Codrington baronetcy, 125
Coins: East India Company, 87, 117, 120. 277, 335;
Gothic florin, 109, 175, 316; York Minster on,
325 ; silver one, 1625, 348 ; thoman, 368, 453 j
silver of Eichard III., 368 ; medal money, 519
Col- in col-fox, &c., 141, 211, 371, 417, 458
Colbert (T.) on an inn inscription, 326
Cold Harbour, origin of the name, 454
Cole (Emily) on Colepepper and Davenant, 129
Covert (Lady Jane), 33
Schomberg (David), 515
William and Mary, sculptures, 448
Coleman (E. H.) on "Called home," 155
Knock Fergus Street, 333
"Mathematical Eecreations," 458
Rowan (Archibald Hamilton), 309
Savoy Chapel, London, 275
Tompion (Thos.), clockmaker, 116
Welsh colliers' superstition, 383
Coliseum : Byron's " Childe Harold," 387
Colle, its locality, 328, 379
Collier (John), "Tim Bobbin" and the Gentleman's
Magazine, 345
Collins (Charles), author of " Comala," 49
Collins (M.) on arithmetic : casting out nine?, 832
" Bee Papers," 35
Browning's "Lost Leader," 192
528
INDEX.
(Index Supplement to the Notes nnd
Queries, with "
tfith No. 29, July 18, 1874.
Collins (M.) on Horoscope of 1818, 66
"Man-a-lost," 433
Mask, anonymous author, 396
Parallel passages, 186
Poets and proper names, 513
S versus Z, 135
Collins (Wm.), his birth, 67
Collyer (R.) on Words worths, 143
Colman (George), fugitive pieces, 487
Cologne and Tre'moigne, 147, 217
Colon on Catalogue of Works of Art, &c., 101
Columbus (Christopher), his last words, 120, 159 ;
reported recovery of some documents, 427 ; tomb
in St. Domingo, 448
Combe (Wm.), author of " Doctor Syntax," 107, 153
, Combermere abbey, Chester, its cartulary, 68, 137
Comet of 1539, 359, 435
Comical, as used by Fuller, 203, 271
Comin family, 188
Commas, inverted, their use, 9, 75, 154, 217, 336, 455
Commons House of Parliament, callings of members
returned in 1868 and 1874, 444
Communion fast in the Anglican church, 307
Communion tokens, 201
Compurgators, their duties, 72, 171
Condiscipulus, and the derivation of " codd," 508
Congreve (Sir Wm.), Bart., his sons, 120
Congreve (Wm.), his birth, 66
Conner (P. S. P.) on the descent of William Penn, 265
Connor (Terence), Irish poet, 482
Conservative, origin of its political sense, 439, 474
Constable (Henry), poet, earliest mention of, 9
Conynham family, 329
Cooke (J. H.) on the game Stoball, 419
Cordeaux (J.) on Field-lore, North Lincolnshire, 131
God wit, its derivation, 129
Tennyson's natural history, 157
Weather saying, 384
Cork, Bishop of, 1425-49, 466
Cornish Christian names, 385
Cornish libraries, 425
Cornish proverb, 385
Cornub. on badge of an esquire, 509
Wingfield (Sir Edward-Maria), 488
Cornwall, Bibliotheca Cornubiensis, 19
Coroner, its derivation, 487
Corporation records, their curiosities, 181
Corpse on shipboard, 166
Corpses burnt, 28, 116 ; seized for debt, 138, 490
Corson (H.) on Shakspeariana, 303
Cotton (Charles), " Medley of Diverting Stories," 147
Counties, arms of English, 130, 195 ; plan for group-
ing the English, 139
Courtenay (J.) on " Christian Year," 195
Covert (Lady Jane) of Pepper Harrow, 33
Cowley (Abraham), his father, 66
Cowper (Ashley), his wife, 68
Cowper (William), stanzas on the Yardley Oak, 38 ;
his name rhymed with Trooper, 68, 135, 272, 316
Cox (D.) on Sunday newspapers, 216
Cox (J. C.) on Bacon's " Essays," 13
Centaury, the plant, 238
GTames of the Middle Ages, 92
Godwit, its derivation, 212
Innocents' Day, 158
Cox (J. C. ) on Lithotomy in the seventeenth century,
106
Stoolball, a game, 34
C. (R.) on Archer pedigree, 167
Greek anthology, 277
Kilkenny cats, 46
Crack, its meaning and derivation, 124, 175, 332
Credwood Hall, Cheshire, 209
Crescent, Lion, and Bear, prophetical lines on, 209,274
Crescent on books, errata in, 6
Boss, its meaning, 356
British Museum duplicates, 494
Chapman's "Homer's Iliads," dedication, 164
French era, 281
French Revolution : badges, 61
Griselda as a play, 105
" Je Ne Sgais Quoi " Club, 453
Lord Chamberlain and theatrical pieces, 106
Paste, engraved, 7
Porcelain marks, 10
Rupert (Prince), arms, 198
Critics described, 25, 60, 159, 480
C. (R. M.) on Milton : "The grim feature," 53
Crochallen Fencibles, an Edinburgh Club, 29
Cromer (George), Abp. of Armagh, 382
Cromwell (Oliver), seals, 140, 268, 300 ; coach •acci-
dent, 344 ; speech of 13th or 21st April, 1657, 385
Crossley (J.) on Bere Regis church, epitaph, 154
Sarpi (Pietro), life and opinions, 397
Crouch (Will.), portrait, 228
Crowdown on " Man-a-lost," 433
Stamford arms, 434
Wines, mediaeval, 193
Crowns worn by the Kings of England, 468, 516
Crucifixion, plant blood-stained at, 300, 415
Crue or crew, its meaning and derivation, 34, 96
Cryptography, 445
C. (S. M.) on curious literature, 130
C. (T. W.) on " From Greenland's icy mountains," 256
" Mittitur in disco," &c., 213
Cuckoo and nightingale, 387, 439, 513
Cucumber, how to deal with one, 327, 394
Culloden, order before the battle, 145, 218; medals, 208
Culpeper (Col.) and the Earl of Devonshire, 129, 252
Cunningham (F.) on boss, its meaning, 253
Halse aker, its meaning, 443
Curses, prophetic, 405
C. (W. A.) on birth of triplets, 249, 454
Bunyan (John) in Bedford Gaol, 483
Lyndsay (Sir David), " Pa, da, lyn," 108, 377
Magazine extracts, 425
Mashing tea, 255
Poetical resemblances, 164
Quotations, 488
Sidney (Sir P.), "Arcadia" abridged, 269
Sterne (Laurence) as a poet, 388
C. (W. A. B.) on Parliament, its elective and deposing
power, 130, 149, 349, 369, 389
C. (W. B.) on Adam's first wife, 496
Like as a conjunction, 116, 237
Nor for Than, 317
Ordeal, its pronunciation, 76
Whitsuntide, its origin, 496
Cymbling for larks, 27, 94, 192
Cymro am Byth on " Anwyl," 85
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Queries, with No 29, July 18, 1874.
INDEX.
529
Cyril on climacteric, a second- first, 88
Hair turning white, 444
Hale (Sir M.), theological MSS., 168
Hanging and resuscitation, 444
Longevity, remarkable instances, 465
Rowan (A. H.), biography, 437
Cyrus, his peculiar nose, 208
Czar, its orthography and pronunciation, 464
D
D. (A.) on dial system of telegraphy, 425
Dadum, a provincialism, 115
D. (A. E.) on Johnson and the shepherd in Virgil, 213
Dale, as a local name, 312
Dalk, meaning and use of the word, 1 8
Daniel (Roger), Cambridge University printer, 288
Daniell (J. W.) on Major Cairnes, circa 1770, 368
Dante (Alighieri) and Tennyson, 142
Dara-Dael, or black insect, 21 5
Darling (Grace), poem on, 48, 77
Dauphin of France, claimants to the title, 160
Davenant (Mr.), inquired after, 129
"David's Teares," its author, 288, 354, 378
Davidson (Thomas), " Songs and Fancies," 289
Davies (H.) on apparitions, spiritual, 381
Davies (T. L. 0.) on Fuller's "Pisgah Sight of Pales-
tine," 203
Leoline and Cbristabel, 515
Davis (Thomas), ballad writer, 32
Day (E.) on Devonshire folk-lore, 325
Day (Miss or Mrs.) and Sir Joshua Reynolds, 67, 115
D. (E. A.) on "An Austrian Army," 54
" Calling out loudly for the earth," 38
Dean (J. W.) on Indian deed of conveyance, 358
Ward (Samuel) of Ipswich, 206
Deanery of Christianity, 269, 392
Death, beauty in, 285, 474
Death's head and cross-bones, 128, 194
Decker (Thomas), a new old dramatist, 42; allusion to
the ten ambassadors, 127, 155
Decourland, nationality of the name, 287, 373
De Defectibus Missse, 286, 372, 456
Dedication, a profuse one, 164
Deed, curious old, 380
De Foe (Daniel), biographical note on, 66
Degree of LL.M., at Cambridge, 149
Demerit, its change of meaning, 424
Denham, co. Notts, its locality, 47, 95
Dennis (John), his Shakspeare criticisms, 342
De Quincey (Thomas), Gough's fate, 117
De Quincis, Winton earldom, 98
Derbetb, its derivation, 148, 218, 357
Derby (Earl of), son to the Duke of Lancaster, 469
Derwent water (Earl of), the last, 319
Desier, a woman's Christian name, 148, 214, 355, 498
Desmond (Countess of), her longevity, 107
De Tantone (John), abbot of Glastonbury, 208, 314
Devonshire folk-lore, 204, 325, 375
D. (F.) on boss, its meaning, 356
D. (H. P.) on epigrams, 276
Titles, episcopal, 92
" Vacation," a poem, 376
" Diable boiteux," in the dark ages, 283
Dialects, English, 6
Dice, why called "fullams," 442
Dickens (Charles), illustrations to "Pickwick," 88
Dilke (A. W.) on Alexander II., 464
Welsh colliers' superstition, 416
Dilke (W.) on quotation from Bacon, 14
Waterloo and Peninsular medals, 136, 235, 378,
438, 498
Dish, a metal one, 9; Jewish pewter, 426, 493
Disraeli arms, 140
Dissecting men alive, 308
" Diverting Dialogue between a Shoemaker and his
Wife," 328
Divining rod, still used on the Mendip Hills, 16
Dixon (J. H.) on the acacia, 197, 457
Empirics, itinerant, 111
Grassington, discovery at, 8
Dixon (W. H.) on Anne Boleyn, 2
D. (J. S.) on Browning's " Lost Leader," 72
D. (L.) on Thomas Muggett, M.D., 129
" Songs and Fancies," by T. Davidson, 289
D. (M.) on anonymous works, 249
Hoare (H.), his charity, 176
Life, duration of human, 289
Dobre'e family of Guernsey, 429
Dobson (T.) on Derbeth, its derivation, 357
Letch: Ing, 287
Sele and wham, 228
Spechyns, its meanings, 428
Dodd (Dr. William), his ancestry and biography, 488
Dog, collie or Scotch shepherd's, 372, 417, 458
Donkey, its derivation, 146
Doran (A.) on lithotomy, its history, 171
Dorsers and preserves, 25
Douglas (W. S.) on unpublished poems by Burns, 29
Dover, brass gun at, 500, 520
Doveton (F. B.) on wonderful automata, 306
Bells tolled, 309
Doyll on " Charles Auchester," 259
Knight Biorn, 356
Drach (S. M.) on Caser wine, 39
Jewish dish, 493
Polack (Miss Elizabeth), 415
Writing : Watershed : Three Rs, 6
Drama, Australian, 423
Dramas suggested by gaming, 423
Drawback, its meaning, 509
Druid, its poetical meaning, 308, 435
Drummond of Colynhalzie, his daughter, 29
Drury Lane, " Private House " in, 508
Dryden (John), Shakspearian traditions, 124
Dual, a proper one, 226
Duane (W.) on Richard and Samuel Blechynden, 368
Smollett (Dr. T.), letter, 384
Dundonald, Ayrshire, Kirk Session records quoted, 21
Dunkin (E. H. W.) on Storer family, 107
Duns Scotus, colophon to the " Quidlibeta," 488
Diirer (Albert), etching, " The Knight, Death, and the
Devil," 215, 356
Durham folk-lore, 485
Dymoke family, 87
E
E. on Adallinde, mother of Thierri, 27
Africa, a sea-port town, 487
Buda, or Bleda, 287
Cologne and Tre'moigne, 147
530
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I Queries, with No. 29, July 18, 1674.
E. on Elizabeth, wife of Charles V., 107, 359
Gipsies, 434
Hindoo game, 374
Turpin, Abp. of Rheims, 69
33. (A.) on flogging in schools, 415
Sounds, unaccountable, 64
Town's-hall for Town-hall, 439
" Twentiteem," 27
Ear-ring, the first, 414
Ear-rings, Mahometan legend concerning, 6
East India Docks, 327
Easter Sunday, temp. Charles II., 261
Eboracum on double returns to Parliament, 356
Ed, the preterite, spelt t, 251
Ed. on Good Friday and Easter Sunday, 261
Isola (Emma), Mrs. Moxon, 161
Whitsuntide, 401
E. (D. C.) on heraldic query, 449
Moreton (Earl of), 508
Ros (Wm. de), his daughter Mary, 56
Stamford arms, 386
Edgar family of Scotland, 25, 75, 192, 355, 430, 500
Edinburgh, Piershill Barracks, 354
Edward the Confessor, his charter, 54
Edward III., his minstrels in 1360-1, 64
Edwards family of America, arms, 408
Edwards (C. P.) on Swainswick legend, 416
Edwards (F. A.) on Arcandam, or Alcandrin, 135
Gibbons (Grinling), life, 196
Eels, a stick of, 489
E. (F. S.) on Hindoo game, 287
Egar on an ague charm, 505
Egyptian, Coptic, and Ude Grammar, 159
E. (H. T.) on Jew's will, 449
"Eikon Basilike," its history, authorship, &c., 199
E. (J. W.) on busts turned to the wall, 93
Browning's " Lost Leader," 71
Chap-books, 54
Hauser (Caspar), 71
" Irish Brigade," 32
E. (K. P. D.) on burning alive, 486
Charters, old, 308
Leyden, town and university, 468
Phipps family, 27
Prestwich (Sir J.), 269
Eleanora, Princess of Salms, her issue, 207
Election squib, 34
Elephant, an historical, 65
Elizabeth or Isabel, Empress of Germany, 107, 175, 359
Elizabeth, Queen of Robert Bruce, her death, 27
Elizabeth II., Empress of Russia, her descendants, 16
Ellacombe (H. T.) on bells with royal heads on, 235
Ellcee on "King of Arms v. King at Arms," 237
Magpie superstitions, 38
Northumberland topography, 428
Sunday newspapers, 197
" Umbrella Harvey," 485
Valet as a verb, 493
Ellis (G.) on single eye-glasses, 489
Jew's will, bequests in, 496
"Private house" in Drury Lane, 508
Siddons (Mrs.), a sculptor, 48
Elswick on epidemics in accidents, 445
E. (M.) on William Combe, 107
Embossed, in Shakspeare and Chaucer, 55, 172
Empirics, itinerant, 111
England, its population about 1674, 387, 495; crowns
worn by its kings, 468, 516
English dialects, 6
" English Mercurie," 1588, its authors, 148
English surnames, 262, 330, 352, 391, 470
Engraved outlines unknown, 334
Engraving, a copper-plate, 307
Entwisle (R.) on Aroint : Rowan tree, 163
Nichols (Richard), sayings, 503
Short-hand writing extraordinary, 126
"Transmigration," 84
Epigrams : —
Abel fain would marry Mabel, 400
Cloth of Gold, do not despise, 193, 272
Conservatives of Hatfield House, 439
Cupid, drinking him, 226
Fell (Dr.), 400
Fool and the fleas, 226
Hobhouse (Mr.), his election for Westminster, 56
Miser, 226
Physician who was a thief, 226, 276
Richelieu (Cardinal), on his death, 26
Rowlands (Henry) on " A jolly fellow Essex
borne," 245, 313
See one physician, 228, 276, 358, 439
Shakspeare, that nimble Mercury, 404
Viper, 226
Voltaire und Shackespeare, 404
Episcopal titles, 92, 310
Epitaphs : —
"JE. Tatis Suse 80," 465
Albany (Countess of), at Florence, 346
Almondsbury church, co. Gloucester, 306
Barklamb (Elizabeth), at Ercall Magna, 186
Bere Regis church, 50, 74, 117, 133, 154, 176,
231, 257, 296, 335
Bertie (Peregrine), at Wesel, 366, 474
Boswell (Dan), gipsy king, at Selstone, 325
Burraway (C. and A.), in Martham church, 339
Clark (Ann), St. George's, Tiverton, 245
Coppin (Mary), in Hartlip church, 63
Crayden family, in Iwade churchyard, 63, 135
Goldy (Lewis), at Port Royal, Jamaica, 444
"Here lie two grandmothers, with their two grand-
daughters," 46, 95, 178
" Here two young Danish soldiers lye," 424
Howard (Card.), at Rome, 26
" I coo & Pine & Ne'er Shall be at Rest," 62
Kentish, 62, 135, 505
Knight (David), in Luton church, 345
Leake (T.), in Blid worth church, 147
Mavle (Mary), at Vange, Essex, 105
Midwife, 245
"Mike was in tempur and in sole sinsere," 186
" Neglected by his doctor," 245
Parsons (William), at Lee, Kent, 19
" Reader, I 've left this world," 226
Salter (William), Yarmouth stage coachman, 85
Sydenham'family, Bryompton D'Evercy, 406
" There is no peace," &c., 226
Townsend (Joseph), pilot of the Ganges, at Cal-
cutta, 466
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Queries,, with Mo. 29, J uly 18, 1S74. }
INDEX,
531
Epitaphs : —
Tyrrell (Dame Martha), at East Horndon, 106
Underwood (T. M.) at Luton, Beds, 105
Watchmaker, in Grimsby churchyard, 424
Wives, two rival, 198
Epitaphs, extravagant, 105, 186, 198, 274
E. (R.) on rhyming Proverbs, 205
Era, the French republican, 281, 354
Erem on a proper dual, 226
" Escrivano de molde," the phrase, 89
Esquire, his badge, 509
Este on Turner's " Illustrated Shakespeare," 494
Esterhazy (Prince), arms, 48, 354
Etonian, a negro, 149, 215, 298
Etty on grave of Marshal Ney, 396
•"Euphues' Shadow," Lodge's or Greene's? 21
Euthanasia, 16
E. (VV.) on Gresman, its meaning, 474
Parallel passages, 105
Situate for Situated, 407
Executions, private, 284
Eyck (Brothers Van), "Adoration of the Lamb," 429
Eye-glasses, single, 489
"Eyes which are not Eyes," 296
F
F. on Chafewax, his office, 193
Puleston (Sir Thomas), 58
St. John's Wood, 206
"The Dainty Bit Plan," 343
Faber (Anna Tanaquil), Madame Dacier, 328, 395
Fabyan (P.) on book of anecdotes, 248
Fallow (T. M.) on mistal, its derivation, 149
Mortar inscription, 272
Words passing from one language to another, 247
Family names as Christian names, 74
Fanny for Frances, 329
Faroe Islands, 329, 394, 438
Farwell family, 28
Fawkes surname, its derivation, 262, 330, 352, 391, 470
Faws = itinerant broom- vendors, 460
F. (C. P.) on y« for the, 29
F. (D.) on Balitenid, its locality, 508
Federer (C. A.) on bibliography of Utopias, 78
Clarke (Kev. Stephen), sermons, 208
Grants in rhyme, 157
Heel-taps, its derivation, 97
Law and sentiment, 106
Military topography, 298
Feist (H. M.) on the orthography of ribbon, 508
Felicitas (Empress), biography, 508
Felton, West, Shropshire, its holy well, 449, 515
Felton (Nicholas), rector of Stretham, 49
Fenton (Lavinia), Duchess of Bolton, portrait, 488
Ferdoragh, an Irish name, 169
Feringhee, its derivation, 113
Ferrey (B.) on poplar-wood, 355
St. Cuthbert, 31
Feuerbach (P. J. Anselm von), memoir of Caspar
Hauser, 69
F. (H.) on Buckley, or Bulkley families, 409
Caistor whip, 506
F. (H. H.) on poplar-wood, 67
Field lore: Carr=Carse, 35,131,311,409; Ing, 177,
287, 373, 409; North Lancashire, 131; Pingle, 311;
Hagg, ib. ; Dale, 312 ; Cumberland, 376, 409 ;
Letch, 287, 373
Finseus (Orontius), astronomer and mathematician, 415
Finella on Hindoo relationships, 226
Finnamore, the surname, 357
Finstermiinz, the Pass of, 148, 214, 357
Firm, its pronunciation, 58
Fisher (J.) on the bittern, 457
Cowper : Trooper, 272
Parliament, double returns to, 257; its elective
and deposing power, 351
Fishwiek (H.) on cymbling for larks, 192
Tedious, its provincial meanings, 175
Therf cake, 424
"Toad under a harrow," 17
Vale Royal and Combermere chartularies, 137
Fitzhopkins on " Bloody," 78
Engraved outlines, 334
Stern : Firm, pronunciations, 58
F. (J. T.) on bell inscriptions from Service-books, 465
Blodius, its meaning, 167, 353
Calendar, date of one, 135
Clowtes : Fleke, 338
Dalk, its meaning, 18
De Defectibus Missae, 286, 373, 456
Gipsies, their burial, 358
Jewish dish, 426
Jewish superstitions, 255
Job, his disease, 516
Luddokys, its meaning, 368
Milton: " That sanguine flower," &c., 414
" Only kid," &c., 88
Psalter, old MS., 41
Thomas of Ercildoun, 5
Flag of England, by whom it may be borne, 64
Flags, national and private, 35
Fleke, fleak, or flake, its meaning, 167, 232, 338
Fleming (J. W.) on Death's head and cross bones, 194
Waterloo and Peninsular medals, 136, 217, 336,
396, 458
Fletcher (J.), passage in " Two Noble Kinsmen," 343
Fletcher (W.) on Hill family, 388
Fleur de Lys : " Flower-de-luce, and Old Shackleton/'
489
Flodden revenged, 125
Flogging in schools, 284, 415
Florin, the Gothic, 109, 175, 316
Fly-leaf inscriptions, 38, 519
Folk-Lore : —
Ague charms, 204, 287, 505
Birds of ill omen, 38, 138, 236, 298
Candlemas gills, 508
Cattle and the weather, 54, 138, 278
Church clock striking during service, 204
Cockroach in medicine, 383
Convulsions cured, 204
Cuckoo and nightingale, 387, 439, 513
Dara-Dael, or black insect, 215
Devonshire, 204, 325, 375
Drunkenness, cures for, 504
Eggs and drunkenness, 504
Evil eye, 324, 374
532
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Queries, with No. 29, July 18, 1874.
Folk-Lore : —
Fever charm, 325, 375
Fountains with peculiar qualities, 44, 472
Gloucestershire, 324, 374, 383
Hare, folk-lore concerning the, 427
Hawthorn in bloom before 1st of May, 347
Hindoo and railways, 44
Hocktide at Hungerford, co. Berks, 339
Horse's hoof a cure for ague, 287
Hurlbassey star, 384
Hydrophobia prevented, 505
Jewish superstitions, 204, 255, 498
Laurel, 504
Magpie superstitions, 38, 298
March dust, 505
Moon, 44, 48, 96, 196, 384
Mumming, 383, 453
Negro superstitions, 296
Oak leafing before the ash, 408, 458
Owl's eggs a remedy for drunkenness, 504
Raven superstitions, 138, 236
Rheumatism charms, 204
Rivers sprinkled with flowers, 505
Roman, 139
Salt spilling, 400
Spirit drinking on the occasion of a birth, 485
Star dogging the moon, 384
Stork's egg a cure for drunkenness, 504
Suicide's coffin, handkerchief thrown on, 204
Toothache, safeguard against, 383
Weather sayings, 54, 138,278, 383, 384, 408, 458,
505
Well dressing, 428, 473
Welsh colliers, 383, 416
Wen, or thick neck, reduced, 204
Whitsuntide customs, 402
Wishing wells, 88
Folk-lore resulting from neglect, 204
Ford family, 249
Fordun (John de), Scottish historian, 376
Forfarshire families, 268
Forfarshire song, 145
"Forging of the Anchor," its author, 288, 335
Fortune telling by the cards, 387, 516
Fothergill family, 148
Fothergill (J.) on Latin sign-boards, 208
Milton's mulberry -tree, 465
Fountains with peculiar properties, 44, 472
Fournyuall (William de), old entry, 45
Fowke (F. R.) on Cervantes and Shakspeare, 97
Fowler (J. A.) on body-snatching, 65
"Essay toward the Proof," &c., 494
Fox (George), his ancestry, 180, 233
Francis (J.) on Sunday newspapers, 155
Free chapel, its meaning, 89, 174
Freemasonry and the acacia, 57, 197, 316, 457 ; in
Canterbury Cathedral, 328, 394
French era, 281, 354
French marshals condemned to death, 9, 114
French noblemen, about 1700, 126
French Revolution, official badges, 61
French silver bronze money, 209
Friedmann (P.) on Philip of Spain and the Garter, 195
Friswell (J. H.) on "Black-a-vized (or) vic'd," 116
Froben (John) of Bale, printer, portrait, 147, 218, 419
Fruits, some old-fashioned, 174
Frye (Thomas), portrait painter, 269, 316 ; engravings
419, 476
F. (T. D.) on "Mercurius Britannicus," 345
F. (T. P.) on rectors of Great Catwortb, 66
Fuller (Francis), funeral sermon, 209, 276
Fuller (Dr. Thomas), reference to a noble lady, 89 ;
works, 123, 500; the "House of Mourning," 123;
and Isaacson's Chronological Tables, 1 68 ; quota-
tions from "Pisgah Sight of Palestine," 203, 271,.
316, 419 ; "Library of British Historians," 447
Funeral garlands, 12, 57, 79
Furnivall (F. J.) on bondmen in England, 118
Dorsers and preserves, 25
Edward IIL's minstrels, 64
Fournyuall (Wm. de), 45
Like as a conjunction, 67
Seats in Parliament, 108
Shakspeare, orthography of the name, 25
Shakspeariana, 5, 304
Wyclif (Robert de) of Kent, 147
F. (W.) on Glasgow compurgators, 171
F. (W. (2)) on Forfarshire song, 145
Laud's Service Buik, 21
F. (W. F.) on Parliament, its elective and deposing
power, 3, 23, 46, 169, 189, 209, 229, 301
Fynmore (R. J.) on Finnamore surname, 357
G
G. (A.) on " Althorpe Picture Gallery," 435
Bulleyn's "Dialogue," 158
" Charon and Contention," 115
Gahagan (Usher), Irish poet, 482
" Gaillardise du Commun Jardin," caricature, 248
Gainest= Nearest, 205, 240
Galloway antiquities and customs, 140
Galton (J. C.) on "Jacobus " piece, 506
Game, Hindoo, 287, 374
Games of the Middle Ages, unlawful, 47, 91, 196
Gaming, plays on, 423
Garnock, the river, subsidence of its bed, 468
Garter, insignia in S. George's chapel, Windsor, 12, 155
Gaultier on " Calling out loudly for the earth," 335
Gausseron (H.) on blue consecrated to the Virgin, 397
Surrey provincialisms, 434
Tomaun or thoman, 453
Gay (John), his first poem, 67
G. (D.) on Jew's will, bequests in, 496
Gee (Rev. Edward), rector of S. Benedict's, Paul's
Wharf, 16, 138, 237
Genealogical omissions, 519
Genealogical puzzles, 46, 95, 178, 518
George I. at Lydd, Kent, 144, 215, 296, 419
George III. and the wonderful pig, 47
Geraldine, the Fair, portrait, 168, 388
Gerasimus (Abbot), biography, 508
German drama, 269
Ger6me (Jean Leon), " Pollice Verso," 205, 255, 378
G. (G.) on grey mouse in " Faust," 156
Montaigne's " Essays," 208
Pass of Finstermunz, 357
G. (H.) on the evening primrose, 248
Wakon-bird, 9, 212
G. (H. G.) on Tennyson's natural history, 37
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533
G. (H. S.) on Bygoe family, 269
Gib (Rob.), 349, 435
Gibbons (E. T.) on Communion Fast church, 307
Gibbons (Grinling), biographical queries, 128, 196
Gibbs (H. H.) on col- in col-fox, &c., 141
Fuller's "Pisgah Sight," 316
Gordano, a local affix, 197
Gibson (Rev. Richard), of the Piscataqua Colony, 407
Gight and Shives, heiress of, 169, 275
Gipsies buried in consecrated ground, 129, 212 ; their
baptism and baptismal names, 212, 358 ; their East
Indian origin, 325, 434; destruction of their pro-
perty at death, 349; their native names, 325, 434
Gipsy epitaph, 325
Gipsy language, word-book of, 338
Giraldus Cambrensis, " Topographia Hibernica," 389
G. (J.) on " Auld Wife Hake," 468
Gladstone (Right Hon. W. E.), and Wales, 486
Glasgow, compurgators, 72, 171; Stobcross Street, 260
Glebuspensky. See Gogol, and Uspens&y.
Gleek, a mediaeval game, 47, 91
Gleichen (Louis, Count), his two wives, 198, 274
Glendower (Owen), his biography, 188, 234, 317
Glenriddell ballad MS., 346
Gloucestershire folk-lore, 204, 324, 374, 383
Gloucestershire topography, 67
God's church and the Devil's chapel, 366
God wit, its derivation, 129, 212
Gogol, Russian author, translations, 227, 292
Golden rose blessed by the Pope, 449
Goldfinch (G. A.) on Dr. Bossy, 112
Knight Bibrn, 356
Goldsmid (A.) on arms of Hungary, 79
Goldsmith (Oliver), " Bee Papers," 9, 35; passages in
the "Vicar of Wakefield," 387, 516
Gomme (G. L.) on Adam meaning North, South, East,
and West, 433
Bells and churches, 140
I, dotted, its origin, 494
Smith (Adam) on small farms, 168
Treaty, commercial, 29
Women ik church, 237
Good Friday, temp. Charles II., 261 ; flogging Judas
Iscariot on, 300
Gordano, a local affix, 14, 197
Gordon (Dr. Thomas) of Peterhead, 293
Gort (Viscount) on O'Briens of Thomond, 112
Gothe (J. W. von), the grey mouse in " Faust," 34,
156; translator of "Mignon's Song," 367
Gower (G. L.) on Surrey provincialisms, 361, 517
G. (R.) on a reference in " Hudibras," 489
Grahame (James), Viscount Dundee, his descendants,
48, 94, 155
Grant family name, 46
Grant (Capt. J.), R.N., and Sir Wm. Grant, 50, 196
Grants in rhyme, 157, 217, 337
Grasaington, ruins discovered in Grass Wood, 8
Graves (J.) on Catherine pear, 257
" Fair Geraldine," engraved portrait, 168
Oak leafing before the ash, 408
Sherlock arms, 394
Gray (Thomas), parallel passage in his " Elegy," 466
Orazebrook (H. S.) on Hickman and Ford families, 249
Johnson (Dr.) and Mrs. Turton, 30
Smith: Pigot: Bovey, 48
Greek anthology, works on, 88, 117, 155, 277, 479
Greek art in India, 199
Greek enclitics, 308
Greek swallow song, 48, 77
Greene (Robert) and " Euphues' Shadow," 21; date of
his " Menaphon," 334
Greengage, origin of the name, 293
Greenwich observatory as a meridian, 8
Gresman, its meaning, 167, 232, 338, 474
Grey (S. P.) on nobility granted to foreigners, 516
Griffin, Bishop of Ross, A.D. 1417-20, 82
Grimaldi (Stacey), works and articles, 8, 95
Griselda as a play, 105, 255
Grosart (A. B.) on William Balmford, 367
" David's Teares," 378
Groves, a Lincolnshire field-name, 132, 194
Groves (T. B.) on Weymouth corporation records, 181
Guillotin (Dr.), his natural death, 426, 497
Gunpowder, its invention, 360
Guns with flint locks, 33
Gunter (Richard), clockmaker, 29
Gustavus Adolphus, war medal, 327
G. (W.) on arms of counties, 195
Groves, a local name, 194
Monumental inscription, 147
Parliament, double returns to, 416
" Shotten herring," 450
G. (W. R.) on Will. Crouch, portrait, 228
H
H aspirated, 105, 156
H. on Calcutta relic, 466
Rowan (A. H.), biography, 310
Had be : Had to, 124
Hadley family arms, 188, 254
H. (A. F.) on heraldic queries, 109
Hagg — broken ground in a bog, 311
Hahn (J. C.) on Cold Harbour, its derivation, 454
Haig (J. R.) on spiritual apparitions, 381
Moses of Chorene, 49
Hailstone (E.) on Margery Mar-Prelat, 489
Yorkshire feast, 84
Hair turning white, 444
Hale (Sir Matthew), theological MSS., 168
Hall (G. C.) on an historical elephant, 65
Hall (H.) on properties of fountains, 44
Massena (Marshal), parentage, 245
Hall (John), the engraver, portrait, 108
Hall (William), poems, 376
Hall ( Wm. Seward), author of " The Empire of Philan-
thropy," 49
Halliwell (J. 0.) on early circulating libraries, 69 *
Medwall (Henry), 47
Shakspeariana, 4
Hallywell (Henry), burial-place, 138
Halse aker, its meaning, 443, 514
Hamilton (Rev. George), letter to Rabbi Hersshell, 428
Hamst (0.) on anonymous works, 348
Bibliography, continental, 437
Brougham anecdotes, 372
Catalogues, descriptive, 516
" Dumouriez (Ge'ne'ral), La Vie du," 334
Fine Arts Catalogues, 445
Jourdan (Mary J.), 516
534
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Queries, with No. 29, July 18, Is74.
Hamst (0.) on " Letters on Mr. Hume's History of
Great Britain," 335
" Notes on the Four Gospels," 335
"Reginald Trevor," 413
" Residence in France," 354
" St. Stephen's ; or, Pencillings," &c., 373
Tude (H. M. de la), 497
Hanging and resuscitation, 444
Hanging in chains, 35
Hare, folk-lore concerning the, 427
Harington (E. C.) on Rev. E. Gee, 16
Harlowe (S. H.) on Mortimer's "History of Eng-
land," 315
Harmer (G. H.) on " Man-a-lost," 433
Harper (W. S.) on Lochleven castle keys, 254
Harrison (A. M.) on Gen. Thos. Harrison, 47
Harrison (Gen. Thomas), the regicide, 47, 95, 196
Harrison (W.) on John Collier, "Tim Bobbin," 345
Hart or Hert Hall, Oxford, 50, 74, 133, 178
Harvey, " Umbrella," 485
Hatton (Sir Christopher), his dog, 209
Haunted houses, 148, 273
Hauser (Caspar), works on, 69
Haverhill, Massachusetts, Indian deed of conveyance,
166, 219, 358
Havering-mere, its free chapel, 89, 174
Haydon (F. S.) on Newton's " Axiomata," 322, 413
H. (B. S.) on " How John Bull," &c., 408
H. (B. Y.) on the game Stoball, 179
H. (C.) on John Wesley, letter, 82
Heber (Bp. Reginald), missionary hymn, 37, 156, 256
Hebrew, professor of, temp. Queen Elizabeth, 134
Heel-taps, origin of the term, 37, 97
Henburny (H.) on Berkeley of Beverston, 228
Henfrey (H. W.) on Charles I. : account for his in-
terment, 145, 456
Cromwell (Oliver), seals, 268, 300; coach acci-
dent, 344 ; speech, 385
Henley bridge, 320
Hennery=hen-house, 286
Henning (T. P.) on Weld family, 347
Henry IV., his accession, 3, 23, 46
Henry VI., his title to the crown, 23
Henry VII., his title to the crown, 301
Henry VII., Emp., knights at his coronation, 308
Henry VIII. as a poet, 403
Henry (Dr. Robert), names of constellations quoted in
his History of England, 328
Hens crowing, 137, 296
Herald King at Arms. See King at Arms.
Heraldic : arms of Prince Esterhazy, 48, 354 ; or, a
chevron gules, in dexter chief the badge of Ulster,
48 ; two hearts banded with the motto, " Be trewe,"
fb.; arg., a chevron engrailed gules, between 3
mullets, pierced, vert, 88, 167; arms and quarterings
of Hereford family, 109, 354 ; az., 3 roses arg., 2
and 1, 116, 336; arg., on a bend, engrailed, vert, 3
garbs or, 116, 197, 336 ; az., 6 holly leaves, 3, 2, 1,
arg., &c., 188, 315, 457, 500; az., a chevron between
3 mullets, or, &c., 188, 254 ; az., 2 chevrons between
3 falcons, arg., &c., ib.; barry of 6 ar. and az. a
crescent or, 268, 354 ; three fish naint sinister,
crowned, 329, 474 ; a fesse embattled, in chief 2 sal-
tires, in base a garb, 348 ; gules, a chevron battled-
counter-battled between 3 mullets, 2 and 1 arg., 449
Heraldic literature, 444, 496
Heraldry : ducal coronet, 130, 195 ; archiepiscopal
mitre, 130 ; pheon, 146, 234 ; Bar sinister, 268,
314, 418 ; leopards, 386, 434, 477 ; coronet in
France, 457; badge of an esquire, 509
" Heraldry, Historical and Popular," corrections, 146,
234
Herbert (Sir Thomas) of Tintern, bart., 88, 136, 278
Here : There : Where, 285
Herefordshire Christmas custom, 54
Hermanville on the Abp. of Philippoli, 1701, 307
Hennentrude on Bardolf of Wirmegay, 293
Bertie (Peregrine), 474
Catherine pear, 174
Cobham (Sir Ralph), 294, 397
Commas, inverted, 9
Crescent, lion, and bear, 274
De Quincis, 99
"Desier," 498
English dialects, 6
Florin, the Gothic, 316
Glendower (Owen), 234
Irish provincialisms, 136
Jocosa : Felicia, 518
Leoline as a Christian name, 515
Mortimers, Lords of Wigmore, 498
Names mis-spelt, 247
Northampton streets, 388
S versus Z, 89
Strangeways (Sir Thos.), 194
" Th' berrin 's gone by," 468
Thought, its signs realised, 115
Visconti (Lucia), Countess of Kent, 227, 416"
Wines, mediaeval, 107, 213
Herring (R. F.) on lunar rainbow, 427
Hessel (Phoebe), her longevity, 221
Hessels (J. H.) on " Album unguentum," 254
"Blodius," 233
Heywood (John), his " Proverbes " reprinted, 359-
H. (F.) on " Clean as a clock," 327
Cucumber, how to deal with one, 327
" Fiat justitia ruat ccelum," 404
God's church and the Devil's chapel, 366
Pin-basket, its meaning, 28
H. (F. H.) on Princes of the blood royal, 516
" Simpson," its derivation, 233
H. (G. L.) on American civil war, 74, 472
"Bookseller," 346
Mnemonic calendar, 358
H. (H.) on Napoleon Bonaparte, 386
Chatswortb, 386
Hoey's Court, Dublin, 445
Pastorini, his prophecies, 408
Percy, the trunk-maker, 308
"Trampleasure," 489
Tude (H. M. de la), his illegitimacy, 424
Valet as a verb, 366
Hibernia on " Like" as a conjunction, 498
Hickman family, 30, 117, 249
Hickman (Henry), noticed, 31, 117, 250
Hickman (Miss). See Mrs. Turton.
Higgin (J.) on William, abbot of Ramsey, 267
Hill family, 388
Hills (Erato) on Montgomery: Young, 365
Hindoo game, 287, 374
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535
Hindoo triad, temples not dedicated to Brahma, 144
Hindoos, relationships of life among, 226
H. (J.) on cattle and the weather, 278
Gothe : " Mignon's Song," 367
St. Clair (Major-Gen.), 406
Hjaltalin (J<5n A.) on quillet, its meaning, 157
Sweden, its etymology, 135
Warlock, its derivation, 211
H. (J. C.) on George Colman, fugitive pieces, 487
H. (L. H.) on Gloucestershire customs, 383
Hall (John), engraver, 108
St. Catherine of Sienna, 433
Hoare (Henry), his charity, 176
Hodgkins (J. E.) on J. and L. Pichler, engravers, 75
Hoey's Court, Dublin, 445
Hogan, drinking, 14
Hogg (J.) on birds of ill omen, 236
" Had I not found," &c., 96
Holbein (Hans), portrait of John Froben, 147, 218, 419
Holland, its Jansenist church, 73, 182
Holland (R.) on burial of gipsies, 212
Catherine pear, 174
Scribe as a verb, 75
Hollingbery family, 260
Hone (William), biography and works, 477
Honolulu advertisement, 339
Hooker, judicial or judicious, 300
Hooker (Richard), passages in his "Ecclesiastical
Polity," 7
Hoppus (J. D.) on Faroe Islands, 394
Ney (Marshal), grave, 375
Whittle-gate, its derivation, 407
Horneck (Miss Mary), the " Jessamy Bride," 348
Horoscope of 1818, 66
Houbraken (Jacob), the engraver, 425
Housebreaker, a craft, 85
" How John Bull got the Key of his own House," 408
Howard (Cardinal), epitaph at Rome, 26
H. (R. D. G.) on the properties of fountains, 472
H. (S. P.) on Whately's " Rhetoric," 308
H. (T.) on Barnes surname, 56
Milgate arms, 374
Picot of Cambridge, 436
Triplets, birth of, 454
Hughes (Lewes), " Certaine Grievances," 367
Hume (John) of Ninewells, noticed, 114, 216, 317
Hungary, symbolism of its arms, 39, 79 ; histories of
the War of Independence, 107, 213
Hungerford, co. Berks, hocktide customs, 339
Hunt (James Henry Leigh), unpublished plays, note-
books, and correspondence, 500
Hurlingham spelt Erlingham, 508
Hutton (J.) on bell inscription, 444
H. (W.) on coin or token, 277
St. Paul and Pliny, 492
Hyatt (C. R.) on Mask, anonymous writer, 457
Hyde (Lady Catherine), anonymous portrait, 168
Hymnology : " From Greenland's icy mountains," 37,
156, 256; "Creator spirit," 408
I, dotted, its origin, 494
" I want to know," an Americanism, 358
Ibhar, its meaning, 469
Ice house built for a Russian wedding, ] 27, 200
Iffley, co. Oxford, its history, 199
Ignotus on Mortimers, Lords of Wigmore, 358
Images, caution against praying to, 406
India, Greek art in, 199
Indian deed of conveyance, 166, 219, 358
Indian official publications, 279
" Infant charity," its meaning in " The Chough and
Crow," 413
Ing, in field-names, 177, 287, 373, 409
Ingleby (Dr.), " Shakspeare's Centurie of Prayse," 260
Inglis (R.) on Australian drama, 423
" Enthusiast," a play, 509
"Fulvius Valens," 288
German drama, 269
Jameson (R. F.), dramatist, 469
Oulton (W. C.), his death, 328
Oxford University Magazine, 308
Pauline Magazine, 448
Polack (Miss E.), author, 288
Queries, various, 49
Yale College Magazine, 448
Inn inscription at Liverpool, 326
Innocents' day, a muffled peal on, 8, 44, 58, 158, 238
Irish Brigade, 32
Irish peerages, extinct, 144, 218, 298, 476
Irish poets, two, hanged in London, 482
Irish provincialisms, 91, 136
Iron bridge in the dark ages, 283
Isola (Emma) and the Lambs, 161 ; her father, 220-
It, use of the word, 446
Italian works of art at Paris in 1815, 56
Italy, travelling in 1832, 266
I wade churchyard epitaphs, 63, 135
Jabez on aroint and arought, 163
Cervantes and Shakspeare, 133
Commas, inverted, 154
Madan (M.), " Thelyphthora," 99
Massinger (Philip), quotation on, 335
Milton : " The grim feature," 52
Shakspeare, earliest mention of, 10
Shakspeare myth, 81
Solidarity, meaning and derivation, 347
Jacaranda tree, 28, 76, 178
Jackdaw of Rheims, 516
Jackson (C.) on postal addresses, 422
Jackson (S.) on Griselda as a play, 255
Jay : Osborne, 336
Parallel passages, 246 \
Varangian, 358
Jacobite letter, 61
" Jacobus " piece, 506
Jago (J.) on Reade's " Martyrdom of Man," 387
Jamaica, its marriage law, 506
James I. as a poet, 241 ; his character depreciated, 312
James (R. N.) on spiritual apparitions, 290
Author and publisher, 205
Coliseum : Byron's " Childe Harold," 387
Commas, inverted, 456
Critics described, 25
" Egg and the halfpenny," 433
French noblemen, about 1700, 126
George I. at Lydd, 144
Houbraken, the engraver, 425
536
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I Queries, with No. 29, July 18, 1874.
James (R. N.) on Mousquetaires and Carabiniers, 64
Murillo (B. S.), pictures by, 165
"Revenue of the Gospel is Tythes," 385
Sarpi (Pietro), life and opinions, 184, 223, 243, 438
Shakspeariana, 404
Stories, strange, 283
Jameson (R. F.), dramatist, 469
Jansenist episcopal succession, 73, 182
Jarvis (J. W.) on " London Characters," 267
Jasher, the book of, 289, 431
Jay surname, its derivation, 128, 195, 336, 437
Jaytee on apparitions, 289
" Je Ne S9ais Quoi " Club, 328, 453
Jenico, the name, 169, 294
Jerram (C. S.) on Shelley's titles to poems, 494
Welsh language, 231
Jesse (G. R.) on bull-baiting, 455
Dissecting men alive, 308
Night-crow : Bittern, 25, 293
Rach : Brach, 54
Scotch shepherd's dog, 372
Ulster words, 374
Water-mark, 88
Jew's will, bequests in one, 449, 496
Jewish dish, 426, 493
Jewish Sepharim, or Scrolls of the Law, 496
Jewish wines and meat, 39, 79
Jews in England, 399 ; register of, 489
J. (H.) on Bp. Ru tier's portrait, 108
J. (M.) on " Quadragesimalis," its meaning, 408
Joan of Arc, her death, 400
Job, his disease, 465, 516
Job xxxix. 20, " Afraid as a grasshopper," 420
Jock's Lodge, near Edinburgh, 354
Jocosa as a Christian name, 108, 155, 194, 357, 518
John of Guildford, inquired after, 29
John (King), his palace or tower, 228
Johnson (Dr. Samuel), portraits, 2, 55; and Mrs. Tur-
ton, nee Hickman, 30, 112, 249 ; and the shepherd
in Virgil, 130, 213; quoted by Macaulay, 168, 196;
and The London Chronicle, 187
Johnston (H. J.) on Rev. G. Hamilton, 428
Jones (E.) on vagaries in spelling, 251
Jones (Sir William), his daughter, 69
Jottings in by-ways, 21, 323, 501
Jourdan (Mary J.), noticed, 435, 516
Judges, their robes, 8
Jug with inscription, 348
"Jure hereditario "— ly or in, 109, 272, 456
J. (W. M.) on Grinling Gibbons, 128
K
"Kalewala, The," translation in English, 148
K. (C. E.) on March dust, 505
K. (C. S.) on nobility granted to foreigners, 447
Swift family, 485
Kean (Edmund), grave, 420
Keats (John), " The two and thirty palaces," 429
Keble (John), " Calm decay," 5 ; quotations in the
" Christian Year," 17 ; passage in poem for 7th
Sunday after Trinity, 128, 195, 276, 312
Kelly (Dr.) on the Manx article, 244
Kemble (John M.), Tennyson's " J. M. K.," 428, 474
Kemp (Robert), rector of Stretham, 49
Kennedy family, 316
Kennedy (H. A.) on automaton chess-player, 454
Shakspeariana, 484
Wine in smoke, 246, 295
" You may put it in your eye," &c., 45
Kensington, old dial inscription, 85
Kentish antiquities, 500
Kentish epitaphs, 62, 135, 505
Kentish feast, 286
K. (H.) on family names as Christian names, 74
Khasias, a people of Palestine, 227
Kidd (Capt. William), birth and parentage, 268, 375
Kilgour (H.) on James I. of England, 312
" King and the Cobbler," 328
King at Arms, his precedence, 50; his crown, 146;
v. King o/Arms, 135, 237, 359
Klingemann (A.), dramas, 269
Klopstock (Friedrich Gottlieb), sacred dramas, 269
Knapping= Breaking in Norfolk, 146
Knibb (Joseph), clockmaker, 29, 116
Knight of Somerset on an epitaph, 406
John de Tantone, 314
Knight's Quarterly Magazine, contributors to, 489
Knighthood: Chevaliers of the Golden Spur, 249,295,
477; Knights of St. John of Jerusalem, 468
Knock Fergus Street, 268, 333
Knox (John), passages in his " History of the Reforma-
tion," 221, 253, 356
Knurr and Spell, 348
Kremlin, Moscow, "Gate of the Redeemer," 26, 76, 236
Kyd (Thomas) and Shakspeare, 462
L and M substituted for R, 481
L. on Black Priest of Weddale, 269
Deaneries of Christianity, 392
"Jure hereditario," 456
Lyndesay (Sir D.), " Pa, da, lyn," 236
Serfdom in Scotland, 36
Shaddongate, its etymology, 517
" That beats Akebo," 148, 476
Labyrinth of S. Bernard, 104
Ladies on horseback, 459
Lamb (Charles) and Emma Isola, 161, 220
Lampedusa in 1690, 406
Land in Scotland, rise in its value, 11, 57
Langham (Card.), life, 80
Lark and toad changing eyes, 5, 98
Larks, cymbling for, 27, 94, 192
Latin signboards, 208, 395
Latting (J. J.) on Capt. Wm. Kidd, 268
Laud (Abp.), his Prayer Book in Scotland, 21
Laughter, senseless, 306
Laurence (William), rector of Stretham, 29, 115
Lavington Old Parsonage, its ghost, 273
Law and sentiment, 106
Lawyers, licence assumed by, 102, 310
Laycauma on apparitions, 290
L. (B.) on heraldic queries, 88, 167
L. (C.) on Rev. Geo. Arnet, 414
Centaury, the plant, 237
L. (D.) on Barbara's lines on Dean Ireland, 65
Lee (F. G.) on Roman Catholic visitation in 1709,
Temple (Sir P.), " Man's Masterpiece," 241
Lees (E.) on folk-lore and neglect, 204
Lees (R.) on the epithet Bloody, 278
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Queries, with No. 29, July 18, 1874. )
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537
Lees (R.) on Selkirk shoemakers, 233
Leniban (M.) on Cistercians, 15
Short-hand writing, 458
Leoline as a Christian name, 405, 515
Leopards, in heraldry, 386, 434, 477
Le Sage (Alain Re"n<j) and Shakspeare, 404
Letch, in place-names, its derivation, 287, 373
Letters, enigmatical, 130, 214; old addresses to, 422
Lewin (J. M.) on American worthies, 316
" Toad under a harrow," 17
Lewis family arms, 68
Lewis (G. A.) on seal of Hon. Thos. St. Lawrence, 187
Lewis (Matthew Gregory), pedigree, 68 ; and Mont-
gomery, 246
Leybourn (William), "Mathematical Recreations,"
269, 334
Leyden, students at the University, 368, 420, 453,
498 ; English works on the town and university, 468
L. (F. S.) on "Glory of their Times," 408
Liberetenentes, their identity, 55
Libraries, early circulating, 69, 154
Life, average duration of human, 289, 434
Ligonier (Lord), and the Lygon family, 55, 178
Like as a conjunction and substantive, 67, 116, 157,
176, 237, 498
Lindsay (Sir David) of the Mount, " Pa, da, lyn," 108,
136, 236, 377
" L'Interme'diaire," its re-appearance, 120
Literature, curious, 130, 214
Lithotomy, its early practice, 106, 155, 171
Liturgy, Early English, 60
Livingstone (Lt.-Col.), 1689, 108, 175, 277, 357
L. (J. E.) on M. de Bodelschwingh, 428
L. (L.) on Scottish titles, 17, 178
Spurring, a provincialism, 56
Llallawg on Lodowick Loid, 130
LL.M. degree at Cambridge, hood, 149
Lloyd (David), Llwynrhydowen, 488
L. (M.) on Grahame, Viscount Dundee, 48
Livingstone (Lt.-Col.), 1689, 175, 357
Lochleven castle, its keys, 254, 300
Lodge (Thomas) and " Euphues' Shadow," 21
Loft, St. George's, its meaning, 87, 154
Logary's light explained, 13, 197
Loid (Lodowick), serjeant-at-arms, 130
London, the Savoy Chapel, 188, 275 ; site of the Docks,
268, 333
"London Characters," 1809, its engravings, 267
"London Chronicle," 187,255
London clockmakers, 29, 116
London Corporation Library Art Catalogue, errata, 101
London cries, 346
London female water-carriers, 254
Longevity, remarkable instances, 107, 221, 465 ; of
clergymen, 66; means of prolonging life, 278; ave-
rage duration of life, 289, 434
Lord's Prayer, royal and republican, 234
Louis XVL, octagonal medal, 386, 472
L. (T.) on St. George and the Dragon, 227
Lucca, the Bard of, 388
Lucretian notelets, 341, 362
Luddokys, its meaning, 368
Lul worth castle, pictures in its chapel, 189
Lunar rainbow, 427
Luson family, 449
Luton, Beds, curious epitaph, 345
Luz bone, or os sacrum, its incorruptibility, 340
Lydd, Kent, George I. at, 144, 215, 296, 419
Lyttelton (Lord) on Bere Regis church epitaph, 50,
176, 257, 335
" Christian Year," 195
Commas, inverted, 75
Hart Hall, Oxford, 133
Kemble (John Mitchell), 474
" Mittitur in disco," &c., 213
Nor for Than, 12, 119
Penance in the Anglican church, 16
Spelling, peculiar, 453
M
M. on Carr=Carse, 35
Curses, prophetic, 405
Field-lore, 409
Ligonier (Lord), 55
Macaronic literature, 480
Macaulay (T. B., Lord), parallel passages in Hogg's
' ' Queen's Wake," 6 ; unpublished letter to Mr.
Dameron, 26 ; quotation from Johnson, 168, 196 ;
palace of Alcina, 188, 234 ; " Aurigny's isle," 268,
300, 320 ; passage in his Essay on Moore's " Life of
Byron," 288
MacCabe (W. B.) on two Irish poets, 482
McC — (E.) on the night crow, 457
MacCulloch (E.) on " Calling out loudly," &c., 38
McGetti (Sir John), 1664, 88
Macgrath (T.) on parallel passages, 256, 426
Mackean (D. S.) on Mr. Gladstone and Wales, 486
Mackean (W. S.) on St. Bernard's "Labyrinth," 104
Maclean (Sir J.) on birth of triplets, 498
Bondmen in England, 36
Free chapels, 174
Heraldic literature, 444
Pentecost as a Christian name, 472
Macpherson (J.) on combatants at Perth, 364
Madan (Martin), " Thelyphthora," 99, 177
Magazine extracts, 1814, 425
Magpie superstitions, 38, 298
Maguire (T.) on " Pollice verso," 378
Maidenwell, near Louth, 414
Maille, its meanings, 327, 432
Maitland (Robert), his wife, 169, 275
M. (A. J.) on Ings, in field-names, 177
St. Michael's, Queenhithe, 125
Tavern inscription, 165
Valet as a verb, 493
Malmsey, mediaeval wine, 107, 193, 213
" Man-a-lost," an owl legend, 385, 433, 490
Mant (F.) on knapping, a provincialism, 146)
Parallel passages, 6
" Prayer moves," &c., 57
Rahel or Rachel, 388
Transmigration, 126
Weather sayings, 458
Manuel of Shots, who was he ? 129
Manuel (J.), Abp. Adamson, 268, 354
" Cloth of State," 378
Jock's Lodge, 354
Manuel of Shots, 129
Melrose, heraldry at, 346
Mottoes of cities, &c., 446
538
INDEX.
(Index Supplement to the Notes and
Queries, with
th No. 29, July 18, 1874.
Manuel (J.) on Newspapers, centenarian, 415
Northumberland topography, 514
Oil of brick, 53
Percy (James), 439
Manx article, 244
Markey, its locality, 469
Maryborough (James, 3rd Earl of), Lord Admiral, 288
Marlborough (Sarah, Duchess of), her hair, 14
Marmits, an article on, 209, 275, 316
Mar-Prelat (Margery), tract, 489
Marriage, singular Russian, 127, 200
Marriage banns published on market days, 87, 155
Marriage law in Jamaica, 506
Marshall family of Carrigonon, co. Cork, 187
Marshall (Ed.) on John Bunyan, the " Den," 483
George I. at Lydd, 296
Hooker, Eccl. Pol., 7
" Legem servare," 408
Moses of Chorene, 179
Marshall (G-.W.), on Marshall family, 187
Marshals of France condemned to death, 9, 114
Martham church, Norfolk, Burraway inscription, 339
Martial, Epigram xiii. 75, 156
Martinmas ballad, 127, 194, 355, 475
.Mary, Queen of Scots, illegality of her marriage with
Bothwell, 319, 374 j Letter-Books of Sir Amias
Poulet, 459
Marybud, in Shakspeare, 24
Masey (William), temp. William III., 188
Mashing tea=making tea, 205, 255
Mask, anonymous author, 50, 373, 396, 457
Mason (C.) on Miss Day, Mrs. Day, 67
Museums and Natural History Societies, 216
Mason (C. A. J.) on games of the Middle Ages, 91
Register books stamped, 77
Mason (J. A.) on Denham, Notts, 47
Massena (Andre*), Marshal of France, his parentage.
245, 334
Massinger (Philip), quotation on, 335
Matthewman (J.) on Eev. George Arnet, A.M., 268
Matthews (J. B.) on parallel passages, 225
Plays on "play," 423
Sheridan queries, 449
Tobin (John), plays, 248
M. (A. W.) on John Froben, portrait, 419
Heraldic replies, 354
Mortar inscription, 115
Mayhew (A. L.) on earrings, 6
Keats, " The two and thirty palaces," 429
Morgue register, Macchabe"e, 295
Paray-le -Menial miracle, 85
Ringleader, 146
Serf for cerf, 515
Sweden, its etymology, 7
Thoman, a Persian coin, 368
Tonsure, emblematical, 334
Warlock, its etymology, 129
M. (B. L.) on "Testaments of the Twelve Patriarchs."
394
M. (C.) on Mr. Lorraine Smith, 228
M. (C. R.) on abided for abode, 149
Barbor jewel, 136
M. (D.) on " Le Cabinet J&uitique," 387
Milton, " Pro Populo Anglicano Defensio," 408
Solidarity, use of the word, 492
M. (E.) on Job, his disease, 516
Means, in Shakspeare, 5
Medal money, 519
Medals : Waterloo and Peninsular, 47, 98, 136, 217,
235, 336, 378, 396, 438, 458, 498 ; Gustavns Adol-
phus, 327 ; conferred by Queen Victoria, 327 ;
coronation of William and Mary, 409, 516; octa-
gonal of Louis XVI., 386, 472
Medwall (Henry), date of his death, 47
Medweig on " English Mercuric," 148
Kentish feast, 286
Lithotomy, its early practice, 155
Poker and Mr. H. Spenser, 77
Quotation marks, 336
Melrose abbey, heraldry at, 346
Merchant Taylors' Miscellanies, its contributors, 49
"Mercurius Britannicus," 345
Merivale (Herman), his death, 121
Messingham (Thomas), his ancestry, 480
Mew (Peter), Bp. of Bath and Wells, 247, 294, 418
M. (F. H.) on " Life of John Barneveld," 508
M. (G.) on Dobre"e family of Guernsey, 429
M. (H. A. St. J.) on " Palliser's Hell," 328
Middle Templar, on princes of the blood royal, 467
Milgate arms, 227, 374
Military topography, 298
Mill (John Stuart) " On Liberty," reviewed, 29, 93,
156 ; on India, 248 ; his belief in a God, 267, 315
Miller (J.) on Morgue register : Macchabee, 248
"Talented," 58
" Toledoth Jeshu," 430
Weather rhyme, 383
Milton (John) and Bishop Mountain, 37; "The grim
feature," 52, 236 ; loss of his sight, 66 ; his third
wife, ib.; " That sanguine flower," 260, 414, 498;
" Angeleida," and " Paradise Lost," 286; " Shepherd
tells his tale," in "L'Allegro," 406; and "Pro
Populo Anglicano Defensio," 408 ; his mulberry
tree at Stowmarket, 465
Misprints. See Printers' Errors.
Missals : De Defectibus Missae, 286, 372, 456
Mistal= cow-house, its derivation, 149, 199, 318
" Mittitur in disco," &c., 145, 213, 338
M. (J.) on "Address to the Stars," 234
Kensington, old, 85
M. (J. F.) on Sir John Burley, K.G., 88
" Cloth of frieze," &c., 193
Cobham (Sir Ralph), family, 208
Herbert (Sir Thos.) of Tintern, 88
"Jerusalem Conquistada," 416
" Jure hereditario," 109
Mnemonic calendars, 179
Strangeways (Sir Thomas), 127, 318
Mnemonic calendars, 5, 58, 179, 257, 358
Moliere (J. B. P. de), early editions of his works, 180
Monk family, of Potheridge, co. Devon, 28
Monkhouse (John), clockmaker, 29
Monstrance, mediaeval, its use, 8, 76
Montaigne's Essays, passage in, 208, 275
Montgomery (James) and M. G. Lewis, 246
Montgomery (R.) and Young's "Night Thoughts," 365
Months, memorial verses on, 260
Montrose (James Graham, Marquis of), poems, 39
Moore (C. T. J.) on Farwell family, 28
Moore (Sir John), his burial, 288
Index Supplement to the Notes and 1
Queries, with No. J9, July 18, 1874. /
INDEX.
539
Moore (T.), "The Light House," or "The Beacon," 468
Moreton (Earl of), in Domesday, 508
Morgue, its derivation, 518
Morgue register, " Le Livre des Maccabees," 248, 295
Morley (Henry), " First Sketch of English Literature,"
corrigenda, 66
Morphyn (H.) on George I. at Lydd, 419
Jacobite letter, 61
Portrait by Verelst, 449
Morris (W.) on crowing hens, 137
Mortars, inscribed bronze and brass, 115, 272
Mortimer family, Lords of Wigmore, 188, 234, 358,
476, 498
Mortimer (Nicholas), inquired after, 89
Mortimer (Thomas), "A New History of England,"
268, 315, 451 ; works, 451
Moscow, " Gate of the Eedeemer" at, 26, 76, 236
Moses of Chorene, 49, 113, 179, 297
Mottoes: "Vigilantia et fidelitate," 29; "Hie et
Alubris," 137; an American, 166; "Divide et
impera," 209 ; of cities, towns, royal burghs, 446
Moultrie (Rev. Mr.), his plagiarism, 246
Mountain or Montaigne (Geo.), abp. of York, 37
Mouse-nests, remarkable, 86
Mousquetaires and Carabiniers, 64
M. (P. E.) on nail in measurement, 274
M. (R. W.) on " Cut his stick," 493
M. (T.) on Thomas Moore, "The Light House," 468
Muffett (Thomas), M.D., works, 129, 212
Muggett (Thomas), M.D. See Thomas Muffett.
Muir (H. S.) on an epitaph, 518
Games of the Middle Ages, 196
Munby (A. J.) on Browning's " Lost Leader," 292
Kentish epitaphs, 62
Place-names abbreviated, 146
Tennyson: "Sea-bluebird," 278
Murillo (B. S.), pictures by, 165
Murithian, a, on fleur de lys, 489
Sunflower, 165, 417
Murphy (W. W.) on America, antiquity of name, 247
Indian deed of conveyance, 166
Museums and Natural History Societies, 169, 216, 318
Music, Academy of Antient, 63
M. (W.) on unsettled baronetcies, 252
Dish of metal, 9
Parallel passages, 40
Peers for Scotland, 302
Scottish titles, 57, 333
Thurot (Francois), 34
M. (W. M.) on heraldic queries, 130
Mnemonic calendars, 257
"SibillaOdaleta," 489
Vega (L. de), Jerusalem Conquistada, 288
M. (W. T.) on enigmatical epitaph, 178
H aspirated, 156
"Lombard Street to a China orange," 234
Malmsey, the wine, 193
Parallel passages, 335
Parliament, double returns to, 153
Poets and proper names, 464
Printers' errors, 494
Simpson arms, 197
"Wise after the event," 409
"Myor pro pane micando," 167, 314
N
N. on American motto, 166
"Biographia Dramatica," 375
Birds of ill omen, 138
Chevaliers of the Golden Spur, 477
Hennerey=hen house, 286
Richelieu (Card.) and the baker's son, 288
Shelley's titles to poems, 445 -
Sunday newspapers, 216
Swaleses' gang, 514
"That beats Akebo," 255
Nail, in measurement, 168, 274
Names mis-spelt, 247, 334 ; a man of many, 346 ;
disguised, 366
Napoleon I. See Bonaparte.
N. (B.) on Catherine pear, 257
N. (B. E.) on Athens, the " violet-crowned " city, 93
Bacon's " Essays," Latin version, 79
Indian deed of conveyance, 219
Martial's Epig. xiii. 75, 156
Rowan (Archibald Hamilton), 309
Water-carriers, female, 254
N. (E.) on Marshals of France, 114
Neale (Dr.), memorial library at Sackville College,
500
Negro Etonian, 149, 215, 298
Neill (E. D.) on Hughes's " Certaine Grievances," 367
Nephrite on Ashley Cowper, 68
Hungary, arms of, 39
" Pickwick " illustrations, 88
N. (E. S.) on the acacia, 57
Nevil (George), his MS. Chronicle, 306
Nevill family arms, 116
New moon on certain days, 48, 96, 196, 384
" News from New England," 68
Newspapers published on Sunday, 121, 155, 197, 216
Newspapers, list of centenarian, 285, 415
Newton (Sir Isaac) and smoking, 186,234; "Axiomata
sive leges motus," 322, 413
New York Museum of Art, 11, 491
Ney (Michael), Marshal, his grave, 327, 375, 396
Nichols (Richard) of Warrington, choice sayings, 503
Nicholson (B.) on Case = to skin, 509
Climacteric, a second first, 152
Commas, inverted, 217
Constable (Henry), 9
Embossed, 55
Games of the Middle Ages, 92
Heel-taps, its derivation, 37
Jottings in by-ways, 21, 323, 501
Baffle: Rifle, 331
Shakspeariana, 24, 109, 304, 354
" Shotten herring," 450
Spenser (Edmund), his Harpalus, 323
" Spurring," a provincialism, 37
Nicholson (J.) on crue, its meaning and derivation, 96
Night-crow, in Shakspeare, 25*11*, 293, 457, 513
Nightingale and cuckoo, 387, 439
N. (M. D. T.) on calendar temp. Edward II., 88
Papal ratification, 109
N— nonCarr=Carse, 132
" Shotten herring," 194
Nobility granted to foreigners, 447, 516
Noble's "House of Cromwell," 368, 475
" Nobody and Somebody," old play, 441
540
INDEX.
(Index Supplement to the Notes and
Queries, W
, With No. 29, July 18, 1874.
Nor for Than, 12, 53, 119, 317
Norgate (F.) on Devonshire superstition, 375
Literature, curious, 214
" Out of the frying-pan," &c., 515
Shelley's titles to poems, 494
Normandie (J. de) on Rev. Richard Gibson, 407
Norman-Scot on Elizabeth, Queen of Robert Bruce, 27
"Third foot," 107
" Yule's gird," 68
Northampton streets in 1431, 388
Northumberland earldom and Percy the trunk-maker,
308, 439
Northumberland topography, 428, 514
Northumberland (Percy, Earl of), temp. Elizabeth, 34
Norton (Bonham), his ancestry, 509
Norton (William), his ancestry, 509
Norwich, altar slab of St. Stephen's, 286; and the
ballad on Martinmas Day, 475
Notaries, their marks, 489
Note-book, extracts from an old MS., 58, 173, 264
" Notes and Queries," a note prefatory to the Fifth
Series, 1; French, 120
Nottingham free library catalogue, 19
Nova villa on Noble's " House of Cromwell," 368
N. (S.) on epitaph by Porson, 205
Epitaphs, 226
New moon superstition, 384
Nummus on bull-baiting, 274
"Clean as a clock," 454
Coin or token, 335
Gothic florin, 175
Heraldic query, 474
Numismatic query, 472
" Shotten herring,'' 450
Tomaun, or Thomaun, 453
Nursery rhyme, " I'll sing a song of sixpence," 388
Nursery tale, " The Three Bears," 508
O. on a copper-plate engraving, 307
" Mumming," 453
Oak, the Yardley, 38; leafing before the ash, 408,458
Oakley (J. H. I.) on bar sinister, 268
Buhner (Agnes), " Messiah's Kingdom," 149
Cornish libraries, 425
Culloden, order before, 145
De Quincey, Gough's fate, 117
Epitaph, " Here lie two grandmothers," 46
Jasher, the book of, 431
Johnson (Dr.) and the shepherd in Virgil, 213
Literature, curious, 214
Wolcot (Dr.), Peter Pindar, 58
Oaths, Latin lines on, 348
O'Brien family of Thomond, 32, 112
Oglander family, 460
Oil of brick, receipts for, 53; its uses, 97
O. (J.) on "Passionate Remonstrance," 7
Oliver (Mother), who was she ? 289
O'Lynn (Cumee) on Irish provincialisms, 91
O. (M.) on Mother Oliver, 289
O'Neill family of Clanehay, arms, 369
"Only Kid, The," in the Passover Service of the
German Jews, 88
" Only three crowns," by whom said, 400
Onondago chapel of Queen Anne, 248, 413
" Opus Questionum Divi Augustini," 321
Ordeal, its pronunciation, 25, 76
Orleans, its pronunciation, 140
Osborne surname, its derivation, 128, 195, 336, 437
0. (T. A.) on epitaphs, 424
Ouida, her abnormal spelling, 145
Oulton (W. C.), author, his death, 328
Outis on " Le Proces des Trois Hois," 468
Overton (F.) on portraits by Thomas Frye, 419
Owen (Charles) of Warrington, biography and works,
90, 157, 238, 498
Owl legend, "Man-a-lost," 385, 433, 490
Oxberry's " Dramatic Biography," 375, 418, 457
Oxford, Hart Hall, 50, 74, 133, 178; "Quadra-
gesimalis," 408, 510 ; All Souls' Fellows, 520
Oxford University Magazine, 1834, translations in, 308
P. on Clock-makers, 116
"Pa, da, lyn," its meaning, 108, 136, 236, 377
Painter-Stainers, company of, 118
Paintings, oil, on copper, 128; two anonymous, 428
" Palliser's hell, its meaning," 328, 435
Papal blasts against tobacco, 345
Papal ratification of privileges of an English town, 109
Paper for copying printed matter, 137
Parallel passages, 6, 40, 85, 105, 142, 164, 186, 246,
256, 274, 285, 306, 326, 335, 384, 426, 466, 474 ;
excused, 225
Paray-le-Monial miracle, 85
Paris, Italian works of art there in 1815, 56; its
prisons, 468
Paris (Matthew) and St. Edward's day, 74
Parker's London Magazine, article in, 348
Parliament, its power to elect and depose, 3, 23, 46,
130, 149, 169, 189, 209, 229, 301, 349,369,389;.
seats in, 108; presentation of petitions to, 409
Parliamentary elections, double returns in, 104, 153r
176, 257, 356, 416
Parsons (J.) on heraldic queries, 188
Parsons (William), an "Apotheosis" of, 19
Pascal (Blaise), translator of his " Provincial Letters,"
328, 378
Passingham (R.) on " Biographical Peerage," 128
Commons House of Parliament, 444
Folk-lore, church clock, 204
Irish peerage, 144
Parliamentary elections, double returns, 104
Population two hundred years ago, 495
" Passionate Remonstrance," 7
Paste, engraved, 7, 75
Pastoral names, 109
Pastorini, his prophecies, 408
Paterson (A.) on "London Chronicle," 187
Short-band writing, 396
Patten (Mrs.), portrait, 449
Patterson (VV. H.) on Bavin, its meaning, 46
Chapman gill, a toll, 327
Hurlbassey star, 384
Kidd (Capt.), the pirate, 375
Printers' errors, 495
" Shotten herring," 146
Pauline Magazine, its editors, 448
Paver (Mr.), MS. pedigrees, 360
Paynter stayner, 118 ; article in the .Builder, 140
Index Supplement to the Notes and 1
Queries, with No. 20, July 18, 1874. I
INDE
X.
541
P. (C. K) on Archibald Hamilton Eowan, 267
P. (E. A.) on continental bibliography, 276
Hungary : War of Independence, 213
St. Bernard of Clairvaux, 295
Peacock (E.) on "Biographical Peerage," 191
Chaucer's fellow squires, 34
Field-lore, 311
Leoline : Christabel, 515
Leyden University students, 453
Life, average duration of human, 434
Nevil (George), 306
Night crow, 513
Sandloft chapel register, 348
Scavage, its meaning, 452
" Shotten herring," 276
Stoolball, a game, 34
Waterton (Justice), 328
Worcestershire sheriffs, 218
Wren (Bp.) of Ely, 379
Peacock (Mabel) on Rowlands anticipated by Luther,
313
Wayneclowtes : Plogh clowtes, 232
Pear, the Catherine, 128, 174, 257
Pearmain on " Arcandam," 48
Peck (Rev. F.), "Complete Catalogue," 16, 55
Pedigree tracing, 509
Peerages, Irish, 144, 218, 298, 476
Peers, Scottish representative, 302, 393
P. (E. G.) on London cries, 346
Peirce, alias Pears, alias Piers family, 488
Pelagius on " David's Teares," 288
Hare folk-lore, 427
Keble, " The sword in myrtles drest," 17
Khasias, 227
Penance in the Anglican church, 16, 58
Pengelly (W.), F.R.S., F.G.S., testimonial, 279
Pengelly (W.) on " Put to buck," 228
Surrey provincialisms, 434
Peninsular medal. See Medals.
Penn family pedigree, 129, 265, 315, 497
Penn (Sir William), had he a sister Elizabeth ? 449
Penn (William), ais descent, 265
Penshurst church, epitaphs in, 505
Pentecost as a Christian name, 402, 472
Penzance, its library, 425
Perceval (Edmund) of Weston-in-Gordano, his daugh-
ters, 28
Percy (James), Dublin trunk-maker, 308, 439
Perth in 1396, names of the combatants at, 364, 469
Pest, the city, called Ofen, 417, 458
Petherick (E. A.) on " Enderby," a tragedy, 154
Petronilla (Maria Stella), 100
Peyton= Brent, 367
Pheon, in heraldry. 146, 234
Philip II. , King of Spain, and the Order of the
Garter, 148, 195, 272
Philippoli, Abp. of, 1701, 307, 395
Phillips (R.) on " Rest of Boodh," a poem, 208
Phillips (W.) on Affebridge : Roding, 39
Knock Fergus Street, 334
Scribe as a verb, 158
Phillott (F.) on a Russian marriage, 127
Philomaths, a literary club, 108
Phipps, family of Lincolnshire, 27
P. (H. M. R.) on cymbling for larks, 94
P. (H. M. R.) on "Jure hereditario," 272
Register books stamped, 77
Pichler (John and Louis), engravers, 7, 75
Pickford (J.) on clowtes : gresman 338
Fenton (Lavinia), Duchess of Bolton, 488
Funeral garlands, 79
Grants in rhyme, 337
Hart Hall, Oxford, 133
Kentish epitaphs, 135
King of Arms v. King at Arms, 237
Pentecost as a Christian name, 473
Songs in "Rokeby," 428
Swale family, 298
Pickpockets detected at theatres, 443
" Pickwick," illustrations to, 88
Picot of Cambridge, 191, 436
Picton (J. A.) on Dante and Tennyson, 142
Kremlin : " Gate of the Redeemer," 76
Land in Scotland, 11
" Piers Plowman's Visions," by W. W. Skeat, 59
Pigot (Granado) of Abingdon, his wife, 48
Pigot (H.) on burial of a gipsy in a church, 129
Felton (Nicholas), 49
Free chapel of Havering-mere, 89
Laurence (William), 29
Shepherdess as a Christian name, 33
Pigott (W. J.) on armorial book-plates, 386
Boleyn pedigree, 45
Jenico, the name, 294
Penn pedigree, 497
Picot of Cambridge, 191, 436
Pike (J.) on circulating libraries, early, 154
Pin-basket, 94
Serpens nisi serpentem, 493
Pilcrow= paragraph mark, 388, 492
Pillar posts, early, 33
Pin-basket, its meaning, 28, 94
Pingle = clump of trees or underwood, 311
Pink (W. D.) on centenarian newspapers, 285
Piomingo, " The Savage," 429
Pipes, briar-root, 335
P. (J.) on Lorraine Smith of Passenham, 258
P. (J. B.) on Cervantes and Shakspeare, 98
Poplar wood, 272
St. Cuthbert, 32
Place-names abbreviated, 146
Plagal, its etymology, 329, 415
Plagiarisms, excuses for, 225
Plant stained with blood at the crucifixion, 300, 415
Plant names, collection of English, 319
Plantagenet statues at Fontevrault, 300
" Play," plays on, 423
Pliny and St. Paul, 203, 492
Plough tax suggested in 1804, 366, 432
Plymouth, New, civic arms, 349
Poe (Edgar Allan) and De Porcher's " Eyes which
are not Eyes," 296
Poems, anonymous, 167, 234
Poetic parallels, 285, 474
Poetic resemblances, 164, 256, 274
Poets and proper names, 464, 513
Poker placed to make a fire burn, 77
Polack (Miss Elizabeth), authoress, 288, 415
"Polimanteia," marginal notices, 9
Pollice Verso," painting by Ge"rdme, 20.5, 255, 378
542
INDEX.
/Index Supplement to the Notes and
I Queries, with No. 29, July 18, 1874.
Polygamy advocated by modern authors, 99, 177
Pomegranate portrayed as an ornament, 197
Pope (Alexander), his views of religion in England,
17; an anachronism, 126
Pope of Eome, the " Ghost of the old Empire," 508
Popery, Catalogues of Discourses for and against, 16,.
55, 149
Poplar wood, 67, 96, 272, 355
Population two hundred years ago, 387, 495
Porcelain, marks on, 10
Person (Richard), epitaph on a Doctor of Divinity, 205
Porter (Miss Anna Maria), works, 289
Porter (Miss Jane), works, 289
Portraits in crayons, 68 ; etched female, 269
Postal addresses, old, 422
Potter (G.) on John Froben, portrait, 218
Popish Plot, 149
P. (P.) on national and private flags, 35
Logary's light, 197
Malmsey, the wine, 193
Pomegranate as an ornament, 197
Shakspeare anticipated, 125
" Shotten herring," 450
Tables with rims, 168
Whittle-gate explained, 515
P. (P. P.) on Peirce family, 488
Praed (W. M.), "Sleep, Mr. Speaker," 364, 432
Prayer, special forms of, 98
Praying to images, caution against, 406
P. (R. B.) on soda-water, 376, 438
Preserves and dorsers, 25
Presley (J. T.) on anonymous books, 50
Prester John of Abyssinia and Tartary, 15, 177, 217,
359, 450
Prestwich (Sir J.), hart., MS., 269
Prime minister, origin of the term, 520
Primrose, ode to the evening, 248
Princes of the blood royal, 467, 516
Princeton college commencement exercises, 247
Printed matter copied, 137
Printers' errors, 365, 494
Printing at Selinginsk, 485
Prison Memoirs, 447
Prodigal Son, prints, 137
Prophecies : The Best Cast, 58 ; The Sink and the
Fire, 173; S and P, 264; of Pastorini, 408
" Pro Populo Anglicano Defensio," its Index, 408
Proverbs and Phrases :— •
Akebo or Achebo : That beats Akebo, 148, 255,
317, 476
Calling out loudly for the earth, 38, 137, 335
Christen he, uprise she, marry we, 385
Clean as a clock, 327, 454
Coventry : Sent to Coventry, 400
Cut your stick, 386, 493
Delay is the handle to denial, 520-
Divide et impera, 209, 275
Drimble-pin to wind the sun down, 189
Egg and the halfpenny, 326, 432
Every man the architect of his own fortune, 471
Eye : You may put it in your eye and see none
the worse for it, 45
Fiat justitia, ruat ccelum, 404
God's church and the Devil's chapel, 366
Proverbs and Phrases: —
Kilkenny cats, 46
Legem servare hoc est regnare, 408, 453
Like a spider in a pan of milk, 1 7
Lombard Street to a China orange, 189, 234, 337
Monkey : To put one's monkey up, 248, 295
Never look a gift horse in the mouth, 80
Out of the frying-pan into the fire, 449, 515
Pembrokeshire : There 's a part of him in Pem-
brokeshire, 383
Put to buck, 228, 293
Quanto post Festum sol rubescit, 149, 215
Rhyming proverbs, 205
Sack : To get the sack, 169
Serpens nisi serpentem comederit, 160, 493
Tempora mutantur nos et mutamur in illis, 372
Th' berrin 's gone by, 468
The blind eat many a fly, 95
Toad under a harrow, 16
Toad with a side pocket, 18
Tout vient a point pour celui qui salt attendre, 14
Unaccustomed as I am to public speaking, 367
Wise after the event, 409, 514
Yule's gird, 68
Proverbs : choice sayings of Richard Nichols, 503
Provincialisms, Irish, 91, 136, 405, 465; Surrey, 361,
434, 517
Prowett (C. G.) on Browning's " Lost Leader," 292
P. (R. P.) on Dr. William Dodd, 488
Prudentius, translation of his Hymn on the Martyr-
dom of St. Hippolytus, 428
P. (S.) on Welsh language, 232
Psalm xc. 10, note in " The Speaker's Commentary," 507
Psalter with Canticles, old northern English MS., 41
P. (S. T.) on " Black-a-vized," 64
Campbell (Thomas), 85
" Can " with a future tense, 205
Cerevisia, its derivation, 485
Here : There : Where, 285
Names, disguised, 366
Rowan (Archibald Hamilton), 309
Shakspeariana, 5, 263
Spelling, peculiar, 405
Taaffe family, 166
« Toldoth Jeshu," 431
Ulster peculiarities, 465
Ulster words and phrases, 245
Violet, the Napoleonic flower, 79
Whele, its derivation, 452
Why as an expletive, 386
Pullison, or Pulesdon (Sir Thomas), arms, IS, 58
Pun, its derivation, 424
Purton (H. B.) on Innocents' Day, 44
Puzzles, genealogical, 46, 95, 178, 518
Q
Q. (Q.) on Sterne : Rigby, mezzotint portraits, 32£
"Vicar of Wakefield," 387
Quadragesimalis, its meaning, 408, 510
Quagg (Col.), his conversion, a story, 148, ISO
Quarterly Review, article on Carlyle, 427
Queen Anne Square, London, 248, 295
Quillet, its meaning, 14, 97, 157
"Quintus Servington," by H. Savary, 188
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543
Quiros (Pedro Fernandez de), Portuguese navigator,
208, 452
Quivis on Lord Chatham and Bailey's Dictionary, 448
Coroner, its derivation, 487
Quiz, origin of the word, 346, 452
Quoits, works on, 428
Quotation marks, 154, 217, 336, 455
Quotations : —
A strong man struggling with adversity, 387
After Life's little day comes Death's, 468
Ah inward crays put up a bitter roule, 149
Aiunt, — Thai saye, 87
All night the storm had raged, 48, 77
All women born are so perverse, 207, 255
And marked the yaffel laughing in the sun, 207
And shook their chains in transport, 387, 492
And they have left — those southern knights, 288
As I sit within the rood loft, 169, 255
Aye, there ye shine, and there have, 167, 234
But no Elisha in Elijah's room, 87
But thou art fled, 108, 175
Calm decay, 5
Chaucer first, a merry bard arose, 180
Circumstance, that unspiritual God, 369, 433
Cloth of frieze be not too bold, 127, 193, 272
Cold lookers on, they say, 87
Come, golden Evening ! in the west, 167
Creator spirit, thou the first, 408
Du droit qu'un esprit vaste et ferme, 48
Fainter her slow step falls from day, 468, 515
Fevered flesh of buflaloes, 368
Flower of eve, the sun is sinking, 248
France, whose heart I thought I had, 108
From folly's laugh, from splendour's idle glare, 269
From strength and not from fear, 0 man, 468
Had I not found the slightest prayer, 96
He did not know, poor beast, why love should, 87
High and Low, watchwords of party, 468
His virtues walked their narrow round, 500
I have been there and still will go, 40
Impulit ilk rates ubi duxit aratra colonus, 380
In Fame's eternal temple shine for aye, 87
Is not in pleasure, but in ease from pain, 87
Junxit amor vivos ; nuncjungit terra sepultos, 449
KapTTOv t/itoi iro&tovn, 87
Kissing your white hand, Mistress, 468
Le temps porte toute chose sur ses ailes, 468
Let him never come back to us ! 207, 237
Let not thy passions' force so powerful be, 488
Let us hope on for whatso'er our lot, 289
Matches are made for many reasons, 488
Monstrat per vultum quod sit sub corde, 188
Prayer moves the arm, 20, 57
Qual uomo e in su la rota, 388
Quanto post Festum sol rubescit, 149, 215
Sassi che hor qua tra le rovine & 1'herbe, 387
See one physician, 228, 276, 358, 439
Serpens nisi serpentem comederit, 160, 493
So man was given the upward look, 468
Stretcht along like a wounded knight, 327
Surely this is the birthday of no grief, 289, 468
Tears of the brave and follies of the wise, 360
Tempora mutantur nos et mutamur in illis, 372
That seeking others' good, we find our own, 87
Quotations : —
The ghost of the old Empire sitting, 508
The lark hath got a quaint fantastic pipe, 388
The mind shall banquet though the body pine, 325
The only moon I see, Biddy, 294
The sword in myrtles drest, 17
There 's somewhat in this world amiss, 468
This heavy blow and great discouragement, 369,
395, 439, 460
This marriage is a terrible thing, 488
Though wedlock by most men be reckoned a
curse, 488
Through life's road, 207, 235
Thy liquid notes that close the eve of day, 439, 492
To live is to change, to be perfect, 468
To thank with brief thanksgiving, 87, 117
Trammelled and bound in custom's, 87
Una salus sanis, nullam potare salutem, 87
"Ventana sobre ventana, 507
We are spirits clad in veils, 87, 175
We may live without Poetry, 87, 233
We must be semi-atheists — God is here, 48
We shall march prospering, 87, 117
Wha weds for siller, weds for care, 488
What constitutes a state ? 40
What heaven wills can never be withstood, 468
When Death, the mighty Conqueror, came, 468
When hope, long doubtful, soared, 87
Which sat beneath the laurels day by day, 207
Wouldst shape a noble life ? 320
E
B. on the acacia and freemasonry, 316
Bs, the three, 6
E. and M. on Night-crow, 114
Pin-basket, 95
Quillet, its meaning, 97
Welsh language, 232
E. (A.) on extravagant epitaphs, 186
" From Greenland's icy mountains," 156, 256
Euyton in Shropshire, 275
West Felton Well, 515
R. (A. A.) on Sir Isaac Newton and smoking, 186
Eachel or Eahel, 388
Eadcliffe family, 227, 374
Eae (Peter), MS. History of the Presbytery of Pen-
pont, note by Mr. C. K. Sharpe, 135
Baffle and Eifle, 331
Eahel or Eachel, 388
Eailways and folk-lore, 44
Eainbow, lunar, 427
Eaine (Henry), marriage portion to females, 428, 474
Eake, its derivation, 175
Ealeigh (Sir Walter), his cordial, 160
Ealston (W. E. S.) on Gogol, Eussian author, 292
Eamage (C. T.) on Burns, 235, 283
" Every man is the architect," &c., 471
" Hie et ^lubris," 137
Hyde (Lady C.), portrait, 168
Property in Scotland, 57
Sharpe (C. K.), note of, 135
Eandolph (H.) on Luton epitaph, 345
"Mittitur in disco," &c., 145, 338
Ney (Marshal), his grave, 327
Tedious as a superlative, 107
544
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Queries, with No. 29, Judy is, 1874.
Randolph (H.) on Twins, lines on, 186
Wellington (Duke of), anecdote, 166
Wilson (Sir K.), "Note-book," 306, 363
Wines, mediaeval, 297
Rank-rider, its meaning, 203, 271, 419
Hatch, a dog-hound, its derivation, 54
Raven superstitions, 138, 236
Rawling family arms, 489
Rayner (S.) on Durham folk-lore, 485
Election squib, 34
"London Chronicle," 255
Rayner (W.) on the earliest advertisement, 331
Sunday newspapers, 121
R. (D.) on burial in an orchard, 126
Reade (W.), passages in "The Martyrdom of Man,"
387
Regimental badges, 128, 194
Register books stamped, 27, 77, 137, 337
Registrum Sacrum Batavianum, 182
Repeck, or Ripeck, its derivation, 17
Republican calendar, 281, 354
Reresby (Sir J.), passage in his Memoirs, 168, 219, 419
" Rest of Boodh," a poem, 208
" Revenue of the Gospel is Tythes," address to the
reader, 385
"Revue des Deux Mondes," its history, 440
Rex (S.) on Hamlet, 25
Reynolds (Sir Joshua) and Miss or Mrs. Day, 67, 115;
picture of the head of King Lear, 489
R. (F.) on order before Culloden, 218
R. (G.) on jug with inscription, 348
Rhee, a river, its locality, 87, 154
Rho on Chevaliers of the Golden Spur, 249
Ribbon, or Ribband, its orthography, 508
R. (I. C.) on royal arms in churches, 37
Rich (C.), editor of " Yale College Magazine," 448
Richard III. at the " Blue Boar," Leicester, 340 ;
silver coin, 368
Richardson family, 513
Richelieu (Cardinal), his character, 26 ; enigmatical
letter, 130, 214 ; and the baker's son, 288
Rickards family arms, 116, 354
Rickman (Clio), " The Eugaboo," 372, 475
Ridgeway (Rev. Samuel) of Basingstoke, 87
Rifle and Raffle, 331
Rigby (Capt. Edward), mezzotint portrait, 329
Rigby (Richard), Paymaster of the Forces, 428, 513
Right (E.) on beauty in death, 474
" Beggar's barm," origin of the term, 449
Riley (H. T.) on Ringleader, its meanings, 256
Rimbault (E. F.) on burning the dead, 116
Cherry-tree carol, 15
"Irish Brigade," 33
Ring motto, 55
Ringleader, use of the word, 146, 217, 256, 317, 400
Rivers sprinkled with flowers, 505
R. (M. H.) on be"zique, its derivation, 233
Nor for Than, 53
Welsh language, 78, 337
Welsh Testament, 256
R. (N. H.) on coin or token, 87
French charade, 385
Robespierre (Fras. Max. J. I.), a poet, 182
Rock (Dr.), itinerant empiric, 111
Roding: Affebridge, 39, 118
Rogers (C.) on Graham, Viscount Dundee, 94
Rolleston (Frances), author of " Mazzaroth," 388, 434
Roman Catholic caution against praying to images, 406.
Roman Catholic visitation in 1709, 86, 393
Rome, its folk-lore, 139 ; its buildings, 479
"Rood Loft," a poem, 169, 255
Ros (William de), his daughter Mary, 56
Rosenberg (A.) on bequests in a Jew's will, 496
Rosenthal (F.) on "Beggar's barm," 516
Ross bishopric in Scotland, A.D. 1417-20, 82
Ross (C.) on "Conservative," 474
Plough tax suggested, 432
Rowan (Archibald Hamilton), biography, 267, 309, 437
Rowan-tree, i. e. mountain ash, 163
Rowlands (Henry), anticipated by Luther, 245, 313
Roxburghe ballads, 379
Roy (William), "Dialogus," 45
Royalist declaration of April 24, 1660, 9
Rule (F.) on cacography, 145
Chafewax, his office, 192
Clarke's " Concordance to Shakspeare," 485
Guns with flint locks, 33
Johnson (Dr.), portraits, 55
Mouse-nests, remarkable, 86
Parallel passages, 466
Poets and proper names, 514
Pun, its derivation, 424
Scavage, its meaning, 452
Shakspeariana, 343
Tea, Waller's lines on, 405
" Wise after the event," 514
Rupert (Prince), arms, 107, 198
Rushton (W. L.) on Shakspeariana, 263, 484
Russian crystal nuptials, 127, 200
Rutter (Bp.), etched portrait, 108
Ruyton of the eleven towns, in Shropshire, 208, 275
S
S. on bdzique, its derivation, 357
Boleyn pedigree, 96
Buttevant viscounty, 108
Chance, 465
Coin, silver, 348
Gleichen (Count), epitaph on his wives, 198
Harrison (Sir T.), pedigrees, 196
Jacaranda tree, 28
King at arms, 50; v. o/arms, 359
" Nobody and Somebody," 441
Rowland (H.) anticipated by Luther, 245
Seals attached to deeds, &c., 386
Shirley family, 248, 477
Walcot of Walcot, 308
" Wise after the event," 514
S and P, a prophecy, 264
S versus Z, 89, 135, 155, 455, 512
Sackbut found at Herculaneum, 128
St. Antholin's church, London, its demolition, 120
St. Augustine and Shakspeare, 404
St. Bernard, his "Labyrinth," 104
St. Bernard of Clairvaux, translations, 228, 295
St. Catherine of Sienna, Virgin, 320, 387, 433
St. Glair (Major-Gen.), his parentage, 406
St. Cuthbert, his burial-place, 31
St. Edward's day, its fixture, 74
St. George and the Dragon, mystery play, 227, 276
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St. George's chapel, Windsor, Garter insignia, 12, 155
St. George's loft, 87, 154
St. Godwald, or St. Gudwall, 240, 294
St. Heiretha, martyrdom, 509
St. John of Jerusalem, Knights of the Order of, 468
St. John's Wood in 1673, 206
St. Lawrence (Hon. Thomas), LL.TX, his seal, 187
St. Michael's, Queenhithe, inscription, 125
St. Minens on Sir D. K. Sandford, 287
St. Pancras churchyard and the railways, 499
St. Paul and Pliny, 203, 492
St. Paul's cathedral, iron railings round, 60 ; pro-
jected completion, 398
Saint-Simon (Due de), supplementary memoir, 239
St. Swithin on donkey, its derivation, 146
St. Verdiana, inquired after, 509
Sala (G. A.) on Becker's " Gallus," 461
Bellman's verses, 285
Bull-baiting, 312
" Egg and the halfpenny," 326
English surnames, 262, 391
Games of the Middle Ages, 47
Printers' errors, 365
Salisbury spelt Sarisbury, 481
Salisbury Mathematical Tracts, 240
Salt spilling, 400
Sandford (Sir D. K.), "a second Daniel," 287
Sandloft chapel register, 348
Sandys (R. H.) on Ge"r6me's " Pollice Verso," 255
Sandys (Wm.), F.S. A., his death, 180; his library, 340
Saravia (Adrien de) of Guernsey, 134
Sarpi (Pietro), his life and opinions, 184, 223, 243,
315, 397, 438
Savage (F.) on Ferdoragh and Jenico, 169
Saville (Jeremiah), musician, 47
Savory (Henry), "Quintus Servington," 188
Savoy chapel "a house for ladies," 188, 275
S. (B.) on Fuller's " Pisgah-Sight of Palestine," 419
S. (C.) on epitaph, enigmatic, 95
Milton : " That sanguine flower," &c., 414
Scarlett family pedigree, 225
Scarlett (Francis), Captain, 165
Scarre, its meaning in Shakspeare, 304
Scavage, its meaning, 289, 452
Schaak ( — ), portrait painter, 88
Schomberg (David) of the Ordnance Office, 408, 515
Scory (Bishop ?) and the Earl of Essex, 467
Scot, Shot, and Lot, 449
Scotland, value of property in, 11, 57; serfdom in, 36
" Scots wha hae," parody on, 189
Scott (F.S.A.) on Rob Gib, 435
Scott (J. R.) on " Shotten herring," 449
Scott (S.D.) on Brook's " Complete List," 47
Scott (Sir Walter), Abbotsford in 1825, 65; "re-
venging Flodden," 125 ; his edit, of Shakspeare,
343 ; songs in "Rokeby," 428, 515
Scottish communion tokens, 201
Scottish representative peers, their election, 302, 393
Scottish titles, 17, 57, 178, 333
Scotus on Dr. Thomas Gordon of Peterhead, 293
Scribe as a verb, 6, 75 ; its technical use, 75, 158
Scrip, for Letter, 66
Scrupe family name, its etymology, 348, 474
Seals : Hon. T. St. Lawrence, 187 ; Oliver Cromwell
140, 268, 300 ; attached to deeds and wills, 386
leaman family arms, 268, 354
Seats in parliament, 108 ; in churches, 226
Sects, dictionary of, 139
S. (E. L.) on S versus Z, 512
Sele, its meaning and etymon, 228, 276, 318
"elenginsk printing, 485
Sennacherib on bell-tolling, 374
Fly-leaf inscriptions, 38
Jewish superstitions, 204, 498
Prodigal Son, 137
Serf for Cerf, 427,515
Serfdom in Scotland, 36
Serjeants-at-arms during the Tudor period, 130
S. (E. T. L.) on Pass of FinstermuDZ, 357
Rhee, the river, 154
Sexes separated at divine worship, 237
S. (F.) on Gloucestershire superstitions, 204, 324
Gloucestershire topography, 67
Innocents' Day, 8
Jasher, the book of, 431
Nor for Than, 53
Selkirk shoemakers, 145
"Talented," 33
"Toad under a harrow," 16
S. (F. G.) on "Fair Concubine," 216
Marlborough (Duchess of), 14
S. (G.) on whele, use of the word, 247
S. (G. A.) on bibliography of soda-water, 348
S. (H. A.) on "David's Teares," 354
" Opus Questionum," 321
Shaddongate, origin of the name, 328, 395, 517
Shadows before, 284
Shakspere Society, the New, 19
Shakspeare (William), earliest mention of him, 9 ;
orthography of his name, 25 ; his lameness a myth,
81; his death and Cervantes', 97, 133; his pastoral
name, 109; traditions recorded by Dryden, 124; a
passage anticipated, 125 ; • his indebtedness to
Chaucer, ib. ; earliest allusion to his Sonnets, 167;
catalogue of books illustrating his life and works,
199; Ingleby's "Centurie of Prayse," 260; generally
read in 1655, 304, 354; drama of "King Edward
the Third," 319, 458 ; parallel passages, 326 ;
Dennis's criticisms, 342; John Benson, bookseller,
343 ; Scott's edition, 343 ; use of lie in " Lucrece,"
343 ; epigram " To Master W. Shakespeare," 404 ;
and St. Augustine, 404 ; and Le Sage, 404 ; and
Voltaire, 404; Turner's " Illustrated Shakespeare,"
407, 494 ; and Thomas Kyd, 462 ; verbal correc-
tion in " Lucrece," 484
Shakspeariana : —
All 's Well that Ends Well, Act iii. Sc. 1 : " Ere
we case him," 172, 278. 318, 509. Act iv. So.
2: " In such a scarre," 304
Antony and Cleopatra, Act v. Sc. 2: "An
Antony it was," 303, 404
As You Like It, Act ii. Sc. 7: "Means do ebb," 5
Coriolanus, Act i. Sc. 3 : "A crack, madam,"
124, 175, 332
Cymbeline, Act ii. Sc. 3 : "Mary-buds," 24
Hamlet: title of Claudius to the crown of Den-
mark, 25, 263. Act i. Sc. 2 : "You are the
most immediate to our throne," 484. Act v.
Sc. 2: "Rough-hew," 484; "He's fat and
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Shakspeariana : —
scant of breath," 484; "As a woodcock to
my own springe," &c., 485
Henry IV. Part I., Act. iii. Sc. 2 : " Savin wits,"
46,94
Henry VI., Part III., Act i. Sc. 4 : " That raught
at mountains," &c., 5. Act v. Sc. 6 : "Night-
crow," 25, 114, 293, 457, 513
King John, Act ii. Sc. 2 : " This lawful king,"
263; "Bedlam, have done," ib.; Sc. 3 : "For
because," ib. Act i. Sc. 1 : " Hadst thou rather
be," 124. Act iii. Sc. 4 : " Convicted sail," 343
Love's Labour 's Lost, Act v. Sc. 2 : "Very loose"
263
Macbeth, the music to, 486. Act i. Sc. 3 :
" Aroint thee witch," 163
Measure for Measure, Act i. Sc. 1, Duke's speech
to Escalus, 304
Merry Wives of Windsor and "The Friendly
Kivals," 342. Act i. Sc. 3: "Gourd and ful-
lam," 442
Romeo and Juliet, Act iii. Sc. 5 : " The lark and
loathed toad change eyes," 5, 98
Tempest, Act iii. Sc. 2 : " No-body," 441
Two Gentlemen of Verona, Act iii. Sc. 1 : " She
is not to be kissed fasting," 4
Shaman (J.) on Thomas Decker, 42
Sharpe (C. K), note to "Lord of the Isles," 135
Shaw (A. M.) on the combatants at Perth, 469
Shaw (S.) on Joseph Knibb, clockmaker, 116
Maidenwell, near Louth, 414
Mortimer family, 234
Sheffield, past and present, 179
Shelley (J.) on arms of New Plymouth, 349
Shelley (Percy Bysshe), plagiarisms, 246; "To the Queen
of my Heart," 403; titles to poems, 445, 494
Shepherdess as a Christian name, 33
Sheppard, " Charles Auchester," 208, 240, 259
Sherborne Lane, No. 12, originally an inn, 68
Sheridan (Richard Brinsley), his MSS., 449
Sherlock family of Kilkenny, arms, 288, 394
Shirley family, 248, 294, 477
Shirley (W. Ph.) on Bp. ? Scory, 467
Shirley family, 294
Shoemakers called sutors, 145, 233; chap-books, 328
"Shoemaker's Glory," 328
Short-hand writing, 126, 196, 396, 458
Shotten herring, its meaning, 146, 194, 276, 449
Shottesbrooke, its derivation, 208, 255
Shrewsbury (John Talbot, Earl of), death and burial
place, 258, 279; re-interment, 399
Siddons (Mrs. Sarah), a sculptor, 48, 77
Sidney (Sir Philip), " Philisides," 109 ; abridged
editions of "The Arcadia," 269, 353, 396, 498
Sigma on Welsh Testament, 393
Sign-board, Latin, 208, 395
Signature, a strange one, 86
Sikes (J. C.) on Bp. Beveridge's simile, 314
Butterfly, its etymology, 493
LL.M. degree, 149
Plant stained with blood at the Crucifixion, 415
Silver oar as a badge, 428, 496
Simpson=groundsel, its derivation, 165, 233, 337, 437
Simpson family arms, 49, 114, 197, 333
Sink and the Fire, a prophecy, 173
Sinologue, its derivation and meaning, 138
Situate, for situated, 407
S. (J. W.) on burning the dead, 28
Skeat(W. W.)on Adam meaning North, South, &c., 305-
Chaucer (G.), test, 185
Grants in rhyme, 217
Halfe aker, its meaning, 514
Lyndsay (Sir David), "Pa, da, lyn," 136
Mnemonic calender, 5
Ordeal, its pronunciation, 25
Spelh'ng reforms, 471
Skerry-brand=sheet lightning, 268
Skeys (Hugh), his second wife, 129, 233
Skip ton (G.) on Kennedy family, 316
Skipworth family, 87
Slafter (E. F.) on Wheelwright's "Vindication,"" 447"
Slang, ecclesiastical, 380
Smart (J.) on penance in the Anglican church, 16
Smith (Adam) on small farms, 168
Smith (Rev. C. Lorraine) of Passenham, 228, 258
Smith (J. H.) on "Salus Populi," 507
Smith (R. F.) on Tiovulfingacaestir, 68
Smith (Sir Robert), his family, 48
Smith (W. J. B.) on Byron, 465
Chevaliers of the Golden Spur, 477
" Faust," grey mouse in, 34
Flint guns, 33
Housebreaking, a craft, 85
Pheon hi heraldry, 234
Pillar posts, 33
Plant stained with blood at the Crucifixion, 415
Valet as a verb, 493
Smollett (Dr. Tobias), letter, 384
S. (M. S.) on Penn pedigree, 129
Soda water, bibliography of, 348, 376, 438
Solidarity, its meaning and derivation, 347, 492
Solly (E.) on Aflebridge, Roding, 118
Ambassadors, the ten, 155
America=the unknown, 326
" Biographical Peerage," 191
Bolingbroke (Lord), political tracts, 307
" CaffS (Le), ou L'Ecossaise," 114, 317
Catherine pear, 174
Charles I., account for interment, 219
Crue, its derivation, 96
Culpepper (Col.) and the Earl of Devonshire, 25'i
Elizabeth, wife of Charles V., 175
George I. at Lydd, 215
Hebrew, professor of, temp. Queen Elizabeth, 134-
Johnson (Dr.) and the shepherd in Virgil, 213
Mortimer's "History of England," 451
Oil of brick, 53
Philip of Spain and the Garter, 272
Pope (A.), his view of religion, 17
Queen Anne Square, 295
Rupert (Prince), arms, 198
Simpson= groundsel, derivation, 437
Treaties, commercial, 77
West (R.), Chancellor of Ireland, 236
Wittikind (Duke), tomb, 217
Wren (Bp.), his father's trade, 329
Yardley oak, 38
Somerset (Edmund, Duke of), burial-place, IS
Somersetshire legends and superstitions, 47
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Songs and Ballads : —
Captain Kidd, 375; Charon and Contention, 115;
Cherry-tree carol, 15; Death of Nelson, 314;
Greek swallow song, 48, 77; Irish Brigade, 32 ;
Lord Spynie, 145; Martinmas, 127, 194, 355, 475;
Poverty parts good company, 288; The Dainty Bit
Plan, 343; 'Twas at the Birthnight Ball, 448
Sound dues, 80
Sounds, unaccountable, 64
Southcott (Joanna), announcement of her death, 121
Sowerby (Sir John), knt., 408
Sp. on Codrington baronetcy, 125
Edgar family, 75, 355
"Heraldry, Historical and Popular," 146
Hindoo Triad, 144
Jacaranda tree, 178
Marriage law in Jamaica, 506
Scarlett family, 225
Scarlett (Francis), captain, 165
Spanish folk-lore, 504
Spanish verse, 507
Spechyns, its meanings, 428, 496
Spelling, vagaries in, 145, 251, 405, 425, 453 ; sug-
gested reforms in, 421, 471, 511, 512
Spenser (Edmund), his Harpalus, 323
Speriend on "Love's Labour 's Lost," 368
Shakspeare's Sonnets, 167
Spiders, &c., in chalice, 286, 372, 456
Spur, Chevaliers of the Golden, 249, 295, 477
Spurring, a provincialism, 37, 56, 177
Spy Wednesday, its origin, 228, 275
S. (R. B.) on Bacon's " Essays," Latin version, 176
Communion tokens, 201
Compurgators, 72
Knox's " History of the Reformation," 221
Lucretian notelets, 341, 362
SS. on Freemasonry in Canterbury cathedral, 394
S. (S. S.) on Leoline : Christabel, 405
Stael (Madame de), noticed in letter of 1813, 326
Stafford (M. H.) on William Tyrrel, 1462, 467
Stamford, co. Lincoln, arms, 386, 434
Stanley of Birmingham, his congregational tunes, 388
Steeple Aston, its ancient manor-house, 499
Stern, its pronunciation, 58
Sterne (Laurence) and Burton, 164 ; mezzotint por-
trait, 329 ; as a poet, 388
Stewardson (T.) on Credwood Hall, Cheshire, 209
Stoball. See Stoolball.
Stobcross Street, Glasgow, 260
Stoles on altars, 109
Stone (G. J.) on Mortimers, Owen Glendower, &c., 188
Stoolball, a game, 34, 179, 419
Storer family, 107
Stories, strange, 283
Story of a village schoolmaster, 107
Strangeways (Sir T.), family and arms, 127, 194, 318
Stratton (T.) on baronetcies, unsettled, 194
Street (E. E.) on episcopal titles, 310
Strype (John), his wife and children, 348
Stuart-Menteith (Sir Charles) and Burns, 235
Style, Old and New, in Spain, 97, 133
Suckling (Sir John), his death, 66
Sumen in Becker's " Gallus," 461
Sunday newspapers, 121, 155, 197, 216
Sun-dial inscription, 85
Sunflower as a preventive of fever, 165, 266, 417
Surnames, English, 262, 330, 352, 391, 470
Surrey provincialisms, 361, 434, 517
Sutherland (George) of Forss, descendants, 329, 452
Sutor = Shoemaker at Selkirk, 145, 233
Swainson (C.) on new moon superstition, 96
Night-crow, 457
Plant stained with blood at the Crucifixion, 41 5
Twelfth Day, 178
Swale family of South Stainley, 188, 253, 297, 476
Swaleses' gang, 413, 514
Swann (J.) on '"Cloth of frieze," &c., 272
Montaigne's " Essays," 275
Swans— "a great greefe of mind," 308, 338
Swanswick, Somerset, legend, 289, 416
Sweden, its etymology, 7, 135
Sweeting (W. D.) on register books stamped, 137
Swift family, 485
Swift (Dean Jonathan), " Four Last Years of Queen
Anne," 14; his birthplace, 445; his uncle William
Swift, 485
Swifte (E. L.) on A. H. Rowan, biography, 437
Spelling reforms, 512
Taafe family, 166
Tables, small, with raised rims, 168, 233
Talented, origin of the word, 33, 58
Tallis (Thomas), memorial, 199
Tavern sign, " Three Kings," 40
Tavern sign couplets, 165, 274
Taylor (J.) on Cistercians, 15
Fuller (Francis), funeral sermon, 276
"Tom the Shoemaker," &c., 328
Taylor (W.), epigrammatist, 388
T, (E.) on Shakspeariana, 484
Tea, mashing it, 205, 255; Waller's poem on, 405";
Hueton, 473
Tedious, its provincial meanings, 107, 175
Telegraphy, field, 367, 435; dial system, 425
Temple (Sir Peter), " Man's Masterpiece," 241
Tennyson (Alfred), Maud, "The sparrow spear'd by
the shrike," 37; parallel passages in Dante, 142 ;
In Memoriam, "The sea-blue bird of March," 157,
278; translation from Homer, 186; Locksley Hal),
"Dreary gleams," 157; " J. M. K," 428, 474
Testament, Welsh, 9, 173, 256, 393
" Testaments of the Twelve Patriarchs," 308, 394
Tetley family, 267
T. (E. W.) on haunted houses, 273
Tew (E.) on " Album unguentum," its meaning, 167
Altars of stone, 375
Bavin, its meaning, 94
Bere Regis church epitaph, 51, 117, 231, 296
Births, extraordinary, 313
Case = to skin, 510
Cistercians, 15
Col- in col-fox, &c,, 211, 371
Deaneries of Christianity, 392
Demerit, its change of meaning, 424
Episcopal titles, 310
Hart Hall, Oxford, 133
" Jure hereditario," 272
Laughter, senseless, 306
Liberetenentes, 55
Like as a conjunction, 157
448
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Tew (E.) on Logary's light, 13
Milton : "The grim feature," 52
" Out of the frying-pan into the fire," 449
Parallel passages, 85
Paris (Matthew), 74
Parliament, its elective and deposing power, 351
Prester John, 177, 359
Quadragesimalis, 511
St. Cuthbert, 31
St. Paul and Pliny, 203
Scavage, its meaning, 452
Sele : Wham, 318
Swans — "a great greefe of mind," 308
Tewars on Bardolf of Wirmegay, 418
Barnes, surname, 97
Barrow (Dr. Isaac), 436
Mortimer of Wigmore, 476
Peyton, Anne,= — Brent, 367
Strype (John), 348
Triplets, birth of, 454
Visconti (Lucia), Countess of Kent, 373
T. (G. D.) on John Froben of Bale, printer, 147
T. (G. M.) on Embossed : Case, 278
Republican calendar, 354
T. (H.) on Dr. I. Barrow, master of Trinity, 196, 317
Lawyers, licence assumed by, 311
Roman Catholic visitation in 1709, 393
Scottish representative peers, 393
Ye for The, 76
Theatres under other buildings, 19
There, its ancient pronunciation, 285
Therf cake, its meaning, 424
Third foot = very busy, 107
Thoman, a Persian coin, 368, 453
Thomas of Urcildoun, MS. of his ballad, 5
Thomas (H. P.) on Faroe Islands, 329
Thorns (W. J.) on centenarianism, ultra, 221
Johnson (Dr.), portraits, 2
Thornbury (W.) on Browning's "Lost Leader," 213
Charles I. as a poet, 322, 435
Henry VIII. as a poet, 403
James I. as a poet, 241
Richelieu (Card.), 26
Robespierre as a poet, 182
Thought, its signs realized, 115, 417
Three Kings, a tavern sign, 40
Thurot (Adm. Francis), 34
Thus on Elizabeth, wife of Charles V., 175
Turton family, 112
Twelfth Day, 155
Tilley (H. T.) on royal heads on bells, 417
Times newspaper, Letters by "An Englishman," 408
Tiovulfingacaestir, its derivation, 68, 115
Tip-teerer, its meaning and derivation, 68
Tissington, well-dressing at, 428, 473
Titles, Scottish, 17, 57, 178, 333; episcopal, 92, 310
T. ( J.) on bdzique, its derivation, 419
T. (J. H.) on Wakon-bird, 335
Tobacco, papal blasts against, 345
Tobin (John), plays, 248, 314
Tokens, communion, 201
"Toldoth Jeshu," Jewish book, 308, 430
"Tom the Shoemaker," 328
Tompion (Thomas), clockmaker, 29, 116
Tonsure emblematical, 334
Topography, military, 298
Town's-hall for town-hall, 285, 439
Trampleasure, derivation of the name, 489
Transmigration and the poets, 84, 126
Treaty, first commercial, of England, 29, 77
Trechsel (John), " Opus Questionum," 321
Tre"moigne and Cologne, 147, 217
Trentano (Dottore), itinerant empiric, 111
Triplets, extraordinary birth of, 249, 313, 454, 498
Troy, its site, 479
Trumbull (J. H.) on chapel of the Onondagas, 413
Trundle (John), publisher, 443
Tude (Henry Masers de la), his illegitimacy, 424, 497
Turner's " Illustrated Shakespeare," 407, 494
Turpin (Abp.) of Rheims, 69
Turton family, 112, 249
Turton (Mrs.) and Dr. Johnson, 30, 112, 249
Tuttle (C. W.) on Canada, its derivation, 97, 497
James, 3rd Earl of Marlborougb, 288
T. (W.) on the first earring, 414
Pullison (Sir Edward), 18
Twelfth Day, St. Knud's Day, 107, 155, 178
Twentiteem, its meaning, 27
T. (W. F.) on Charles I., warrants for his execution, 407
T. (W. G.) on John de Tantone, 208
Twins, lines on, 186
T. (W. J.) on Barbor portrait and jewel, 89
Tyrrel (William), 1462, 467
Tyrrell (T. W.) on John Tobin, plays, 314
Tytler (Alexander), collection of ballads, 346
U
Udal (J. S.) on "Called home," 87
Ge"r6me's " Pollice Verso," 205
Heraldic reply, 197
New moon superstitions, 48
U. (E.) on Underwoods of Staffordshire, 308
Ulster peculiarities, 465
Ulster words and phrases, 245, 374
Umbra on haunted houses, 148
" Umbrella Harvey," 485
Underwood family of Staffordshire, 308
Uneda on Canada, its name, 97
S versus Z, 455
Watershed, its meaning, 366
Wyoming, its pronunciation, 385
Unnone (T. C.) on burial in parish coffin, 166
Testament, Welsh, 173, 393
" To put his monkey up," 295
Uspensky, Russian writers of the name, 292
U. (T. C.) on David Lloyd, Llwynrhydowen, 488
Utopias, bibliography of; 78, 237
Vale Royal Norton abbey, its cartulary, 68, 137
Valet as'a verb, 366, 493
Valoines barony, 368
Vane (Hon. Anne), 28, 76, 172, 216
Vane (H. M.) on Boleyn pedigree, 95
"Fair Concubine," 172
Kentish epitaphs, 505
Vanilla, " the beautiful." See Hon. Anne Vane.
Varangian, its derivation, 113, 358
Varlet (D.), bp. of Babylon, his consecration, 73
Vaux surname, its derivation, 262, 330, 352, 391, 470
V. (E.) on automata, 395
Desier, a Christian name, 214
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V. (E.) on Isola (Emma), her father, 220
Martinmas-day ballad, 194, 475
Vega (Lope de), " Jerusalem Conquistada," 288, 416
" Vengeur," story of her sinking, 502
Verelst (Jo.), portrait painter, 449
Vergil (Polydore) on swans, 308, 338
Vessels, sacred, 8, 76
Vestments, sacred, 8
Vestynden family, 188
V. (F. J.) on embossed : case, 72
Fletcher and Shakspeare, 343
Shakspeariana, 124
Viator (1) on crack, its meanings, 332
" Infant charity," 413
Vicomes= sheriff, 191, 436
Vieuville arms, 315, 457, 500
Violet, the Napoleonic flower, 18, 79
Violet-crowned city, Athens so termed, 9§
Visconti (Lucia), Countess of Kent, 227, 373, 416
Voltaire (M. F. A.), " Le Caffe*, ou L'Ecossaise," 216,
317; epigram on him and Shakspeare, 404
V. (V. H. I. L. I. C. I.) on stone altar, 286
" Archidoxes," 475
Bailey's "Dictionary," 514
Fox (George), his ancestry, 233
Fuller (Francis), funeral sermon, 276
" Testaments of the Twelve Patriarchs," 395
W
W and L substituted for R, 481
Wag, its meaning and derivation, 124, 175
Wait (S.) on Plough tax suggested, 366
Wakon-bird of the American Indians, 9, 212, 335
Walcot family of Walcot, 308
Walcott (M. E. C.) on bell-tolling, 375
Blodius: Blue, 491
"Bloody," 37
Chichester, arms of the See, 15, 217, 450
Deaneries of Christianity, 393
Death's head and cross bones, 194
Funeral garlands, 12
Keble : " Calm decay," 5
Mortimer (Nicholas), 89
Prester John, 217, 450
" Quadragesiinalis," 511
Koyal arms in churches, 37, 98
Seats in churches, 226
Vessels, sacred, 76
Well dressing, 473
Walking canes with porcelain mounts, 14
"Wallace, Blind Harry's," early editions, 29, 77
Waller (Edmund), " On Tea," 405
Walpole (Horace), his charade, 385, 475
Ward (C. A.) on "Egg and the halfpenny," 432
Guillotin (Dr.), 497
Morgue, its derivation, 518
Oxberry's " Dramatic Biography," 457
" Rokeby," songs in, 515
Ward (Samuel) of Ipswich, B.D., 206
Warlock, its etymology, 129, 211, 396
Warren (C. F. S.) on Altars in the Middle Ages, 58
Warrington (J.) on copying printed matter, 137
Anthem : anthymn, 134
Apparitions, 13
Arithmetic : casting out nines, 332
Bar sinister, 314
Warrington (J.) on Bene't college, Cambridge, 255
Bere Regis church epitaph, 51
Buttevant viscounty, 175
Charles I. as a poet, 379
Chevaliers of the Golden Spur, 295
"Cloth of frieze." &c., 193
Cobham (Sir Ralph), 294
Cowper : trooper, 135
De Defectibus Missse, 372
" Fair Concubine," 76
Finstermiinz, Pass of, 214
Gleichen (Count), his two wives, 274
Hart Hall, Oxford, 133
Herbert (Sir Thos.) of Tintern, 136
Innocents' Day, 58
Irish peerage, 218, 476
Jocosa, a Christian name, 194
Malmsey, the wine, 193
Mortimers, Lords of Wigmore, 234
Moses of Chorene, 113
Names spelt eccentrically, 334
Noble's " House of Commons," 475
O'Briens of Thomond, 32
" Put to buck," 293
Stoolball, a game, 34
Swale family, 253
Tavern inscriptions, 274
" Testaments of the Twelve Patriarchs," 395
Tip-teerers, 68
"Toldoth Jeshu," 431
Waterloo and Peninsular medals, 98, 136
Whele, its meaning, 452
Ye for The, 76
Water-carriers, female, 254
Water-mark, 88
Waterloo medal. See Medals.
Watershed : aquacline oraquaclive, 6; its meaning, 366
Waterton (Justice), his family, 328
W. (C.) on " Mathematical Recreations," 269
Nursery rhymes, 388
W. (C. A.) on Cyrus, his nose, 208
East India Docks, 327
John (King), his palace or tower, 228
Knock Fergus, its locality, 268
" Paynter stayner," 118
Queen Anne Square, 248
Sackbut found at Herculaneum, 128
Scavage, its meaning, 289
Simpson, its derivation, 337
Weale (W. H. J.) on inscription at Wesel, 366
Weather sayings. See Folk-lore.
Webb (T. W.) on comet of 1539, 435
Petitions to Parliament, 409
Queries, various, 288
Weddale, the Black Priest of, 89, 176, 269
Wedgwood (H.) on col- in col-fox, &c., 211, 417
Crack : wag : rake, 175
Weld family pedigrees, 347
Well dressing, 428, 473
Wellington (Duke of), anecdote, 166; early days, 32&
Wells (John, Lord), temp. Rich. II., arms, 329, 394
Welsh language, 78, 231, 337
Welsh Testament, 9, 173, 256, 393
W. (E. S.) on Psalm xc. 10, 507
Wesley family, their musical talents, 440
Wesley (John), unpublished letter, 82
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West (Hon. John), noticed, 236
West (Richard), Chancellor of Ireland, 236
Westminster Abbey registers, 339
Weston (L.)on "Gaillardise du Commun Jardin," 248
Weymouth corporation records quoted, 181
W. (G.) on Gib, House of, 349
W. (H.) on Buda : Ofen, 417
Games of the Middle Ages, 196
W. (H. A.) on Spy Wednesday, 228
Vessels and Vestments, 8
Wine in smoke, 419
Wham, its meaning, &c., 228, 276, 318
Wharton (Lord), his charity, 120
Whately (Abp.), reference in his "Rhetoric," 308, 430
Wheelwright (Rev. John), his " Vindication," 447
Whele, meaning and use of the word, 247, 452
Where, its ancient pronunciation, 285
W. (H. G.) on apparitions, 132
" White Rose and Red," a poem, its author, 148, 215
White (Robert), his death, 180
Whitmore (W. H.) on Fanny : Frances, 329
"News from New England," 68
Whitsuntide, its etymology, 401, 496; customs, 402
Whittle-gate, its meaning and derivation, 407, 515
" Who Knows One Thing," in Passover Service, 88
Why as an expletive, 386
Wiggs=;Buns or cakes, 261, 474
William, Abbot of Ramsey, 267
William and Mary, sculptures, 448; medal, 409, 516
Williams (Eleazar), his death, 160, 217
Williams (S. H.) on Abp. Adamson of St. Andrews, 354
Anthem : Anthymn, 134
Arcandam, or Alcandrin, 277
*' Bee Papers," 35
"Bloody," 377
Bulmer (Agnes), " Messiah's Kingdom," 218
Carleton (Mary), the " German princess," 291
Combe (Wm.), author of " Doctor Syntax," 153
" Divide et impera," 275
Lark and toad, 98
" Mathematical Recreations," 334
Mortimer (Thomas), 451
Ringleader, its meanings, 217
"Serpens nisi serpentem," &c., 493
" Shotten herring," 194
Spy Wednesday, 275
Wallace (Blind Harry's), 77
Wilson family arms, 49
Wilson (Sir Robert), his note-book quoted, 306, 363
Window gardening, 227
Windsor (Edward), notes by, 305
Wine in smoke, 246, 295, 419
Wines, mediaeval, 107, 193, 213, 297
Wing (W.) on H. Hickman of Leyden, 117
Wingfield (Sir Edward-Maria), his Christian name, 488
Winters (W.) on R and S. Blechynden, 475
Clarke (Rev. S.), sermons, 255
Free chapels, 174
Funeral garlands, 57
Godwit, 213
Laurence (W.), rector of Stretham, 115
Muffet (Thos.), M.D., 212
Pilcr&w, paragraph mark, 492
Warlock, its etymology, 397
Winton earldom : De Quincis, 93
Wishing wells, 88
Wittikind (Duke), his tomb, 147, 217
W. (J. H.) on average duration of human life, 434
Wolcot (Dr. John), " The Praise of Margate," 19,
Wolf (A.) on William Roy, 45
Women in church, 237
Wood family, 409
Woodstock, its M.P.s, 309, 355
Woodward family, 87
Woodward (J.) on Countess of Albany, tomb, 346
Bar sinister, 418
Burley (Sir John), K.G., 136, 158
Chevaliers of the Golden Spur, 477
Chichester, arms of the See, 15
Dymoke and other families, 87
Froben (John), portrait, 218
Garter insignia, 155
Henry VIII., Emp., knights at his coronation, 308
Heraldic literature, 496
Heraldic query, 457
Howard (Card.), epitaph, 26
King of arms, 135
Worcestershire sheriffs, 149, 218, 317
Words passing from one language to another, 247
Wordsworth (Dora), unpublished letters, 143
Woi Jsworth (William) and Browning's " Lost Leader,"
71, 138, 192, 213, 292 ; and transmigration, 84, 126 ;
letters, &c., unpublished, 143
Wough as a provincial word, 368
W. (P<-.) on genealogical puzzle, 95
W. (R.) on anonymous paintings, 428
Wren (Matthew), Bp. of Ely, his father, 329, 379
Wright (C. N.) on George III. and the pig, 47
Wright (W.) on Sherborne Lane, No. 12, 68
Wyat family, 287
Wyclif (Robert de), enrolment, 147
Wylie (C.) on Thomas Frye, engravings, 476
" Macbeth," music to, 486
Oxberry's " Dramatic Biography," 418
Porter (Miss J.), " Switzerland," 289
Turner's " Illustrated Shakespeare," 407
Wynne (Richard), "The Holy Bible adapted," 247
Wyoming, its pronunciation, 385, 464
X
X. on Edgar family, 25, 192, 430
Yale College, commencement exercises, 247
Yale College Magazine, contributors, &c., 448
Yardleyoak, 38
Yardley (E.) on Adam's first wife, 496
Ye for The, 29, 76
York Minster, on a coin, 325 ; Dr. J. Smith and the
pastoral crook, 509
Yorkshire, arms of the county, 130, 195
Yorkshire families, pedigrees of, 360
Yorkshire feast in 1751, 84
Young (Dr. Edward), printer's error, 365; quoted, ib.
Yule's gird, the phrase, 68
Y. (W. N.) on New York Art Museum, 491
Z
Zampognari of Naples, accounts of them, 129
Z. (F.) on green gage, origin of the name, 293
Zoilus on Shakspeariana, 485
Z. (Q. Y.) on chapel of the Onondawgvs, 248
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