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LONDON, SATURDAY, JANUARY*, 1876. 



CONTENTS. N 105. 

NOTES "New Year's Day, A D. 1776, 1 The House of Stanley 
and the Legend of the Eagle and Child, 2 The Wise Woman 
of Wing, 4 'OTTIKOQ ; "Grsecus" Autolychus, 5 Charles 
Wilmot Serres, a " Suppressed Prince" A. Nottinghamshire 
New Year's Eve Custom Cromwell's Watermen's badges, 6 
The Gates of St. Paul's European Ignorance of America 
Sound in Fogs The Title " Keverend," 7. 

QUERIES : The Metrical Psalms, 7 An Old Picture Archi- 
tectural Institute of Scotland " Ruth the Moabitess " 
Bristol Cathedral Library" ' Attorney,' one who is put," 
<fcc. S. Leigh of Ollerton Burns -Bishop Pococke's Visit to 
lona, 8-" The Present State of London" Reresby Mrs. 
Olivia Trant-" Broad Church "London Bridge Ficklin 
and Berney Families Sir E. Harvey Heraldic An Old 
Carol "A Touchstone for Gold and Silver Wares," <fcc. As- 
pinwall-Thomas Clarke, 9" Sodom : a Play by the E. of 
R.," &c., 10. 

REPLIES: Philological, 10 Robert Pursglove, 11 The 
Society of Friends Swearing on the Horns at Highgate 
"Serbonian bog," 12 Dr. Johnson a,nd the Ford and Hick- 
man Families, 13 Poets the Masters of Language Arabella 
Fitzjames, 14 "Carpet knight" "The Scottish House of 
Roger" Morgan's System of Consanguinity " Brangle " 
Shaking Hands, 15 Calcies-Sir Robert Ker Porter "The 
History of Living Men," &c. Archdeacons' Seals Episcopal 
Addresses at Confirmation Ancient Irish Crosses, 16 
Charles Clark of Totham, Essex Claude Amyand Le Neve's 
"Fasti" Heraldic -"H(fy, 17 " Teetotal" William, third 
Earl of Pembroke, of the Herbert Family, 18. 

Notes on Books, &c. 



NEW YEAR'S DAY, A.D. 1776. 

On New Year's Day, a hundred years ago, Eng- 
land was depressed or elated (according to political 
bias) at the aspect of affairs in America. London 
was divided in opinion on the question of " the 
Provincials " and the mother-country ; and was 
also in active but ineffectual agitation to save the 
twin-brothers Perreau from being hanged for 
forgery. While George III. was donning his 
claret- coloured suit, his three eldest sons were 
buckling on their tiny dress swords, and the 
Queen and two of her daughters were in the hands 
of their tire-women all in preparation for hearing 
the " Ode for the New Year" in the Council 
Chamber at St. James's. 

This custom of singing an ode by the Laureate 
was time-honoured, and ceremoniously observed 
on every 1st of January and on each recurring 
royal natal day ; " odes," said Gibbon, with his 
characteristic double sense, " which still adorn or 
disgrace the birthdays of our British kings." These 
odes, the most of them very " tolerable, and not to 
be endured," were set to a music which often cor- 
responded in quality with the words. On New 
Year's Day, 1776, Whitehead was the Laureate. 
He succeeded Gibber in 1757, and was followed 
in the office by Thomas Warton in 1785. The 
composer of the music was Dr. Boyce, a true artist, 
who stood, and stands, his ground well in the 



estimation of competent judges. Whitehead was 
the son of a Cambridge baker ; after being at 
Winchester, he entered at Cambridge, through 
the benevolence of another baker of that town, one 
Thomas Pyke, who had founded a scholarship or 
two at Clare Hall. Whitehead was admitted as a 
sizar, his claim being recognized as the orphan son 
of a man who was of the same trade as the founder 
of the scholarships. What Whitehead wrote before 
and after the first day in 1776, when he and Boyce 
stood together in the Council Chamber, may be 
read elsewhere. Nearly all is now wrapt in an 
oblivion which would have delighted the Laureate's 
enemies ; but not all deserves to be so forgotten. 
Whitehead, indeed, was savagely snubbed by 
Johnson, but he enjoyed the approbation of Gray ; 
Campbell thought the Ilyssus of Whitehead's 
Creusa exhibited finer feeling than the Ion of 
Euripides ; and Coleridge held his Charge to the 
Poets (which stirred Churchill's bullying Muse) as 
the most interesting of his works. Whitehead has 
been called, in some things, a feeble imitator of 
Pope ; it would be more correct to say that he 
was, at times, a splendid imitator of Young. 

At the side of the Cambridge baker's son, in full 
court dress, stood Dr. Boyce, the son of a London 
cabinet-maker. Boyce was now organist and com- 
poser in the Chapel Koyal. Only those who are 
interested in the history of music know, or perhaps 
would care to know, how great and various are the 
claims which Dr. Boyce has upon the gratitude of 
at least those whose souls are " moved with con- 
cord of sweet sounds." It will save a world of 
space if we briefly say of these two humbly born 
men, poet and musician, that they were thorough 
gentlemen, the word embraces every fine quality 
and stands for all. 

Now, there was much curiosity afloat as to the 
utterances of the Poet Laureate at this critical 
juncture. In the Birthday Ode (June, 1775) he 
had been hard put to it for subject for decent 
rejoicing. Walpole (in August) met him at Nune- 
ham (Whitehead was, for years, a domesticated 
friend in the Jersey family), and Horace wrote to 
Lady Ossory, " There was Mr. Whitehead, the 
Laureate, too, who I doubt will be a little puzzled 
if he have no better victory than the last against 
Caesar's next birthday. There was a little too 
much of the Vertere faneribus triumpkos, for a 
complimentary ode, in the last action." But, since 
the birthday, worse incidents had occurred than 
the surrender of Ticonderoga and Crown Point. 
The insurrection had become general, as the King's 
speech intimated ; public opinion in England in a 
great degree sympathized with the insurgents ; but 
the drop of comfort in the goblet of sorrow was 
that Quebec had been gallantly saved from the 
attempt to surprise it by Montgomery and Arnold. 
The Laureate made the best of a very bad business. 
He and Boyce separated as the King and Court 



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[5 th S. V. JAN. 1, 76. 



entered the Council Chamber. They arrived so 
early that very few of the nobility who had been 
invited were present. The late comers were shut 
out, and the following was the ode, sung to Boyce's 
music, at St. James's, a hundred years ago : 
" On the white rocks which guard her coast, 

Observant of the parting day, 
Whose orb was half in ocean lost, 
Reclin'd Britannia lay ; 
While o'er the vat'ry waste 
A pensive look she cast, 
And scarce could check the rising sigh, 
And scarce could stop the tear which trembled in her eye. 

' Sheathe, sheathe the sword which thirsts for blood,' 

She cried, ' deceived, mistaken men; 
Nor let your parent o'er the flood 
Send forth her voice in vain. 
Alas ! no tyrant she ! 
She courts you to be free ; 
Submissive, hear her first command, 
Nor force unwilling vengeance from a parent's hand.' 

Hear her, ye wise, to duty true, 

And teach the rest to feel, 
Nor let the madness of a few 

Distress the public weal. 
So shall the opening year assume 
Time's fairest child a happier bloom ; 
The light-wing'd hours shall lightly move, 

The sun with added lustre shine ; 
' To err is human,' let us prove 

' Forgiveness is divine.' " 

"When the King and his family appeared in 
public, after the performance of this rather lachry- 
mose ode, they were received with loyal cheers. 
New Year's Day was then in the first half of the 
London season, which began in November and 
ended on the King's birthday in June. As 
George III. and his Queen passed much of that 
time in London, there was much gaiety always 
afloat at Court or in the mansions of the nobility 
and gentry, where " winter in London " was a long 
and joyous one. The tradesmen of the capital 
profited greatly. What money there was circulated 
rapidly, and by that rapid circulation one pound 
did the office of many pounds. But all this did 
not allect the freedom of expression as to politics 
generally, and the policy of the Government 
towards America in particular. Nothing can 
better show the existence of such freedom than the 
publication of a counter ode in the Morning 
Chronicle, two or three days after Whitehead's 
ode, on Britannia with grief in her heart and a tear 
in her eye, had been sung at St. James's. It was 
as follows : 

" On the green banks which guard her strand, 

Regardful ot the rising day, 
Whose radiant orb illumed her land, 
America reclining lay. 

Far o'er the boist'rous main 
Her aching eyeballs strain, 
i et she disdain'd to heave a single sigh, 
Or drop a single tear from her enraged eye. 
' Jn vain,' she cried, ' the sword ye wield, 
Ye poor, deceiv'd, mistaken men; 



Old Freedom's sons disdain to yield, 
Though they have sued in vain. 
In truth no rebels we, 
Who live but to be free ; 
Who ne'er denied your mild command, 
But scorn'd to sink beneath your wrathful hand. 
' Learn to be wise, and learn to know 

What all the world must own 
Your blessings from our blessings flow, 
While commerce guards the throne. 
Learn this, and let each future year 
More radiant than the rest appear ; 
Let Peace and Plenty smile again, 

And let fair Freedom shine : 
Thine was the fault, Britannia, then 

Be reparation thine ! ' " 

In the following July the Declaration of Inde- 
pendence came like thundering echoes of this 
counter ode. In 1783 "Britannia" recognized 
the Independence as a fact, and she made graceful 
reparation, as recommended in the above lines of 
1776, in the last of the simply eloquent words 
addressed by the King in reply to the words 
uttered by Mr. John Adams, when, in 1784, he 
was presented to George III. as the first pleni- 
potentiary to our Court from, the United States of 
America. Let them be kept in memory on both 
sides of the Atlantic : " And, sir, as I was the 
last person that consented to the independence of 
the United States, so I shall be the last person to 
disturb or in any manner to infringe upon their 
sovereign independent rights ; and I hope and 
trust that from blood, religion, manners, habits of 
intercourse, and almost every other consideration, 
the two nations will continue for ages in friendship 
and confidence with each other." Amen ! 

ED. 

THE HOUSE OF STANLEY AND THE LEGEND 
OF THE EAGLE AND CHILD. 

Students of history have come at last to recog- 
nize the supreme importance of consulting con- 
temporary documents, where such exist. Without 
this, history is reduced to the condition of an idle 
romance, or a vehicle for party prejudice. I pro- 
pose to illustrate this principle by reference to a 
little episode of English history bearing upon a 
family illustrious in the annals of our peerage, and 
never more so than at the present time. 

The Chetham Society have recently issued a 
volume of Lancashire Inquisitions in the thirteenth 
and fourteenth centuries, from the Towneley and 
Dodsworth Collections. The information afforded 
as to the state of society at that period is curious 
and valuable. The documents are of the highest 
authority, being returns to writs from the Crown 
on evidence, on oath, before juries or commissions, 
in respect to the property of feoffees of the Crown 
or Duchy of Lancaster. Several of them refer to 
the family of Lathom, and the Stanleys their suc- 
cessors, at their first emergence into notice in the 
reign of Richard II. 



5 th S. V. JAN. 1, 76.] 



NOTES AND QUERIES, 



The rise of the Stanley family has a legendary 
history attached to it. This is fully set forth in 
the History of the House of Stanley, by John Sea- 
come, 1741. The original legend runs as follows : 
Sir Thomas de Lathom, early in the fourteenth 
century, walking with his lady, who was childless, 
in his park, drew near to a desert and wild situa- 
tion, where it was commonly reported an eagle 
built her nest, and, upon their near approach 
thereof, heard the cries of a young child, which 
was found by their servants in the nest, being a 
male infant dressed in rich swaddling clothes. 
And they, having no male issue, looked upon this 
child as a present sent from heaven. They took 
it under their protection, had it carefully nursed, 
and baptized by their own name. The child be- 
came their heir, and at his death left an only 
daughter named Isabel, whom Sir John Stanley 
married, and, in memory of this event, took the 
eagle and child for his crest, as since used by his 
noble successors the Earls of Derby. 

The legend, as modified by Seacome, commences 
with Sir Thomas de Lathom, who lived in the 
reign of Edward III. ; that he and his lady being 
highly advanced in years, without any issue but 
one daughter, and he being desirous of male 
issue, but despairing thereof by his own lady, had 
a love intrigue with a young gentlewoman of his 
acquaintance, who bore him a son, whereof he was 
greatly rejoiced ; but the difficulty arose how to 
introduce this young scion without inducing do- 
mestic strife. After several schemes and proposals, 
they hit upon the expedient of placing the child, 
richly dressed, in the vicinity of an eagle's nest, 
where it was found by the servants, and received 
by the lady with kindness and affection. The 
child was baptized by the name of Oskatell de 
Lathom, his mother's name being Mary Oskatell. 
The youth did not ultimately succeed to the family 
estates, which descended to Isabella, Lady de Stan- 
ley ; but he was portioned off with certain manors 
at Irlam and Urmston, near Manchester, and 
other lands in Cheshire. Sir Thomas, in memory 
of the event, is stated to have assumed for his 
crest an eagle upon wing regardant, and that the 
Stanleys, despising Oskatell and bis pretensions, 
took upon them the eagle and child in token of 
contempt of his claims. 

The legend, whichever form be adopted, presents 
absurdity on its face. The eagle bearing a shield, 
emblazoned or, on a chief indented az. three be- 
zants, is found on a seal of the father of the Sir 
Thomas to whom the legend attributes it. The 
legend itself is as old as the time of King Alfred, 
to whom a similar incident is ascribed. 

Seacome records that Sir John de Stanley, 
second son of Sir Wm. de Stanley of Timperley, 
was born in the 27th or 28th year of King Ed- 
ward III. (1354), and that he distinguished him- 
self at the battle of Poictiers, under the Black 



Prince, in A.D. 1357. This was very remarkable, 
as, according to the chronology, he was then three 
years old ! 

He further relates that on Sir John's return 
from France he visited most of the Courts of 
Europe, where his superior skill in arms was 
generally applauded ; that on his arrival in Eng- 
land he conquered a haughty French champion 
in the jousts at Winchester, under the eyes of the 
Court, among whom was the heiress of Lathom, 
young, beautiful, and rich, by which feat he won 
the fair lady and gained her inheritance. 

As Lady de Stanley's eldest child was not born 
until thirty years after this event, the strong pro- 
bability is that she was not then in existence ; 
and the doughty victor himself could not have 
been more than six years old ! 

Now let us see what light is thrown on the sub- 
ject by the documents to which I have called 
attention. They prove demonstratively that the 
story, in whichever form it is presented, is a 
fiction from beginning to end. The true narra- 
tive is as follows : 

Sir Thomas de Lathom, the father of Lady de 
Stanley, so far from being childless, or having only 
a daughter, had five children, two sons and three 
daughters, all of whom attained maturity. His 
second son, Edward, died before his father, leaving 
a widow. Sir Thomas died in March, 1382. His 
elder son, Thomas, succeeded, and inherited the 
estates, which he only enjoyed a year and a half, 
dying Nov. 3, 1383, leaving a posthumous daughter 
Ellena, born three months after her father's de- 
cease. At her death, issue in the male line having 
failed, Isabella, the eldest daughter, who had mar- 
ried Sir John de Stanley, succeeded, in ordinary 
course, to the property, which has descended to 
the Stanleys, Earls of Derby, to the present day. 

Lady de Stanley survived her husband a few 
months, dying on Oct. 26, 1414. On March 12 
previously, she had settled the estates on Henry 
de Halsale, Archdeacon of Chester, and Richard 
de Stanley, Parson of Walton Church, in trust for 
her son, the second John de Stanley, then aged 
twenty-eight years. The specific manner in which 
the Inquisitions deal with the property of Sir 
Thomas de Lathom precludes the idea of any sup- 
posed Oskatell inheriting or even existing. 

An Inquisition, 8 Richard II. (March 6, 1385), 
draws a lamentable picture of domestic life. Poor 
Sir Thomas, so far from being the " galantuomo " 
the legend represents, was himself the victim of 
his second wife's frailties. The document states 
that Johanna, the lady in question, had formed 
an adulterous connexion with Roger de Fazaker- 
legh, and, her husband being in a feeble state of 
health, she had introduced the said Roger into 
the hall at Knowsley, "in magnum dispectum 
dicti Thome mariti sui," "et jacuit cum Rogero 
de Fazakerlegh adultero suo apud Knoweslegh in 



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[5 th S. V. JAN. 1, 76. 



alto camera in lecto predicti Thome mariti sui et 
in aliis locis secrete et aperte ad voluntatem ipsius 
Johanne," &c. It is further related that at her 
husband's decease she had carried his corpse to 
the Priory of Burscough, and there interred it 
without p'riest or religious rites, and immediately 
thereafter, being then pregnant, she had inter- 
married with the said Roger, her paramour. It 
uoes not appear that Lady de Stanley and her 
husband at all interfered on poor Sir Thomas's 
behalf. It is more than probable that they were 
not married until after his decease. 

I: appears to me that the circumstances here 
related indicate pretty clearly the origin of the 
crest of the eagle and child. The eagle already 
existed as the cognizance of the Lathom family, 
and passed with the estates to the Stanleys. The 
illegitimate offspring of .Johanna, above alluded 
to,- if a son, would priniC: facie have a claim to the 
inheritance, which the report in the Inquisition 
would set aside. What, therefore, more natural 
than the adoption of the device of the eagle of the 
.Stanleys triumphing, or, metaphorically, picking 
out the eyes of the babe in the cradle ? 

The traditionary account of these circumstances, 
garbled and modified as such stories usually are, 
crystallized into the myth of the illegitimate babe 
Oskatell. This is strongly confirmed by the lan- 
guage of the legend itself, which goes on to say 
that " Sir Oskatell, being degraded and supplanted 
in the hopes and prospect of an immense fortune, 
was slighted and despised by his unthought-of 
rivals, who, either to distinguish or aggrandize 
themselves, or in contempt and derision of their 
spurious brother, took upon them the eagle and 
child for their crest, in token of their conquest 
over him." 

.t is to be feared that many a pretty legend, 
lien tested by the dry light of documentary evi- 
lence, will, in ;> similar manner, turn out "the 
useless fabric of a vision/' but " veritatis simplex 
oratio est." J. A. PICTOX. 

canayknowe, V averlree. 



THE WISE WOMAN OF WIXG. 

bout ci^lit or nine years ago there died, at 

iknjmi, a unman named Amelia Woodcock 

ctter known as the "Wise Woman of Wing" 

om having previously livedintlmtEutland village 

is close to tho Midland Railway, between 

tamford ami ( hskhain. She was scarcely middle 

when she died, and she had settled at Win" 

an early marriage with a kbourino- man" 

i am told that she had no experience as an 

lospital nurse, and had not received any kind of 

ition or training in medicine ; but she rapidly 

established a reputation for her power to treat and 

hea every variety ofdisen.se, including cancer 

At the outset of her career she made a great point 



of gathering herbs from the fields and woods, and 
making them into medicines that were supposed 
to act as charms ; but, as soon as her reputation 
was firmly established, she had no leisure to quit 
her house in search of herbs, and contented herself 
with drugs ordered from a chemist. It was in 
consequence of her neglecting to take exercise, and 
to the habits that her confined life produced, that 
her death was attributable. 

Although she continued to live in her humble 
cottage at Wing, she was visited daily by persons 
who as I am told " came in their own carriages"; 
and I am further informed, on good authority, that 
medical men also came to consult her. Her 
patients were taken in regular turn, without dis- 
tinction of rank ; and they were so numerous 
that, as she was unable to see them all on the day 
that they came to her, many persons were obliged 
to take lodgings in the village or neighbourhood 
until the Wise Woman could see them. She dealt 
rapidly with her patients, and, after hearing a few 
words from them, told them that she perfectly 
understood their complaints, and could cure them. 
She had sufficient wisdom to avoid using powerful 
drugs, and what her medicines lacked in quality 
was made up for in quantity. They were given 
to her patients not only in large bottles, but also 
in stone jars. A chemist who supplied her with a 
large portion of her drugs paid his first visit to her 
when he was just starting for himself in business, 
on the chance of getting an order from her. As 
soon as he obtained admittance to her room, she 
took him to be a patient, and, before lie spoke to 
her, said, " I can see, young man, what is the 
matter with you." " Can you ? " he answered, 
thinking it best to humour her. " Yes," she said ; 
" you Ve got an ulcerated liver." " Bless ine ! " 
he cried, in feigned alarm, for he was in excellent 
health at the time ; " I didn't know it was as bad 
as that." " Yes," she said, " and it 's an ulcerated 
liver of some standing. It 's lucky that you carne 
to me, for I can cure you. You might have gone 
to a dozen doctors, and they wouldn't have been 
able to do you any good." He deemed it best to 
play the part of a patient, and, without speaking 
of the special object that had brought him into 
the presence of the Wise Woman, he paid her for 
a large bottle of medicine, and went away with it. 
It is needless to add that the physic was thrown 
to the dogs. In the ensuing week he paid her 
mother visit, professed to have been greatly re- 
lieved, ^and went away with another large bottle 
of stuff, which he used as " the mixture as before." 
The next week he went again to her, announcing 
Ms perfect recovery, and the complete cure of his 
ilcerated liver. He then modestly introduced the 
topic that he was a chemist, just starting in busi- 
ness, and that he could supply her with drugs at a 
/ery reasonable rate. The interview ended by her 
jiving him an order for drugs ; and this was followed 



5 th S. V. JAN. 1, 76.] 



NOTES AND QUERIES. 



up by others, and, for some years after, the Wise 
Woman of Wing was one of his best customers. 
He tells me that he usually sent her a cart-load of 
drugs, and, occasionally, a van-load at a time. 

He has shown me several of the letters that she 
sent to him, and from these I select the two fol- 
lowing orders, which I have copied correctly, though 
not without difficulty, the Wise Woman's writing 
being as peculiar as her spelling : 

No. 1. 

" Oakham. 

" Sir will you send Mrs. woodcock 1 galland of sava- 
latta 1 of red lavandar 3 of niter 7 pound of jelap and 7 
iripica half stone of spanis just and 1 half pound of biter 
haple half stone of juneper beries and anne seeds 6 bottles 
of quanine a small passil of red salve 1 dosen of skins 
and 10s. worth of coflf pills 2 bladders of seam 4 stone of 
tireacle as early as convenien Amealia Woodcook." 
No. 2. , 

" Junary2 Dear fren eye have sent you a small order 
if you think well to excep it 6 ga Hands of niter and a 
large bottle of dark mixture 1 galland of savaletta 1 gal- 
land of lavander 1 quart of oil of juneper and 6 pound 
of black plaster the same of red and 3 pound of gelap 
3 of hilepica 6 bottles of quine." 

Dimly figured in the above orders are the various 
articles, quinine, sal-volatile, aniseed, and Spanish 
juice. The mysterious drug that appears in the 
one order as "iripica," and in the other as " hile- 
pica," was a special favourite of the Wise Woman, 
who never had the slightest knowledge of the 
nature of the medicine ! It was a recipe brought 
from Jamaica by an assistant of the chemist, and 
its composition was kept a profound secret. The 
Wise Woman had the greatest faith in it, and it 
was included in every order that she sent. Let 
us hope that it did her patients a power of good. 
I have the chemist's word for it that there was 
not anything in it, or in the other things that he 
supplied to her, that could harm patients, and 
that they might (possibly) benefit them, especially 
as they consulted her with the firm conviction 
that she could cure them. Perhaps some corre- 
spondents in the neighbourhood of Uppinghani and 
Oakham may be able to give some further parti- 
culars of the Wise Woman of Wing. 

CUTHBERT BEDE. 



'O^i/co's : " GR-^CUS." Dr. Mommsen (Hist. 
Home, i. p. 13) has : 

" The essential unity of all the Italian as of all the 
Greek races must have dawned early and clearly on the 
consciousness of the two great nations themselves, for we 
find in the Roman language a very ancient word of 
enigmatical origin, Grams or Graicus, which is applied 
to every Greek, and in like manner amongst the Greeks 
the analogous appellation 'QTTIKOQ, which is applied to 
all the Latin and Samnite stocks known to the Greeks 
in earlier times, but never to the lapygians or JEtruscans." 

This singular correspondence in use and form, 
extending even to identity of suffix (-/<o?, -cits), so 
suggestive of a correlation in idea, has not been 



followed up by the learned doctor, wlio suggests 
(p. 22) that Opici (with Osci,&,c.) means " labourers" 
(root as in opus, &c.), leaving Grcecus underived. 
Let us try then to find something more satisfactory. 
Prof. Curtius (GL Etym., 130) says it is impossible 
to separate r/oaticos from root yep (primitive GAR), 
" aged, old," found in yepcov, ypcua. The only 
meaning, then, which can attach to this word, as 
applied to a nation or tribe, is that of " the older 
settlers," or something similar. We shall, there- 
fore, look in its correlative Opicus for the sense 
younger or later settlers ; and this we find in it if 
we connect it with o^e, oVwpa, o^t-, (?) Oppius. 
This derivation accords well with a Grseco-Italian 
migration from east to west, for the more eastern 
Greece would be colonized first, and, when that 
was occupied, later bands of settlers (*Oirtkot) 
would have to go further west to Italy. It accords, 
too, with the fact that that part of the Italian race 
itself which settled last, the Samnites (Mornnis., 
ib. p. 34), is styled par excellence Oscan or Opican. 
Nor can we find a difficulty in the change of mean- 
ing from " aged " to * { ancient " in Grcecus. It is 
not an uncommon oue, and, perhaps, we may trace 
in it a disparagement of claims to antiquity by a 
rival kindred race. I do not know whether this 
conjecture has been anticipated ; it has not cer- 
tainly, as I think, been discussed as it deserves. 

J. P. P. 

AUTOLYCHUS. 

Mer' 'AvroXvKov re KCU vlas, 

M^rpo? o/s Trarep' (r@\ov os av$pw7roi>s IKC- 
Kacrro 

TC 0609 & OL ttTJTOS e'3a)KJ/, 

Horn., Ocl, xix. v. 394-7. 
Why has Autolychus found so much favour from 
translators ? Pope (Fenton) says : 
" Autolychus the bold, a mighty name 

For spotless truth and deeds of martial fame." 
Bozzoli : 

" Che fu d' accorto ingegno e lealtade 
II miglior cavalier di quella etade." 
Even the trustworthy Voss states the perjury, but 
passes over the thieving : 

" Der hoch von den Menschen beruhmt war 
Durch Ausrede mit Schwur." 
Van 's Gravemveert : 

" Die bij 't menschelijk geslacht 
Door sluwheid was vermaard." 

Cowper's is the fairest version which I know, poor 
but honest : 

" Who far excelled 
In furtive arts and oaths all human kind." 

Clark cites the Scholiast, Julian and Plato to show 
that Homer's words are to be taken in their natural 
sense, and were intended to be complimentary. 
Ernest! adds : " Op/o porro intellige jurandi arti- 
ficio, quod est, cum, verum juramus, et tamen 
alterum fallimus sine noxa" Damni (Lex. Horn., 
v. Op/<os) gives examples, but says upon this pas- 



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[5 th S. V. JAN. 1', 76. 



sage, TW eVi KAeTrroo-vn,. As nosea may be 
translated "crime" or "liability to punishment, 
I hope Ernesti meant the latter. The text does 
not limit the swearing, and Damm's limitation to 
stealing, and keeping the goods by out-swearing 
the prosecution, does not raise our opinion ol 
Autolychus. I shall be thankful for an elucidation, 
A modern instance may be admissible, i know a 
man who cares little for any wine and greatly dis- 
likes sherry, yet was asked by a friend to go down 
with him to the Docks to advise on the purchase 
of some. Out of mere courtesy, when asked to 
taste it, he sips as little as civility allows, and 
says, with perfect truth, " I have seldom tasted 
sherry which I liked better." So he is reputed a 
good judge. H. B. C. 

U. U. Club. 

CHARLES WILMOT SERRES, A "SUPPRESSED 
PRINCE." I am much obliged to CLARRY (iv. 484) 
for his kindness in ascertaining what the records of 
the Marine Society tell us of the Charles Wilmpt 
Serres who was received into that society in 
March, 1825, and on April 2 placed on board the 
Buckinghamshire, East Indiaman. If the statement 
of his age in his petition and in the register of 
the society, which represents him as being seven- 
teen in 1825, be correct, it is clear he is not the 
" Suppressed Prince " who was born in 1803, and 
was consequently not seventeen, but twenty-two, in 
1825. 

Serres, in his interesting holograph will, accuses 
his wife of ''giving birth to illegitimate children, 
and unnaturally deserting them to be supported 
by others." His biographer states distinctly that 
she had two illegitimate children, and in the Me- 
moir (p. 33) says : " While thus confined during a 
period of nearly two years, information reached 
him of the birth of another illegitimate child of 
his wife " ; and the Charles Wilmot Serres, who 
was placed by the Marine Society on board the 
Buckinghamshire, may possibly be this child, and 
the second of the two of Mrs. Ryves's " royal and 
revered mother.' 1 A friendly correspondent has sug- 
gested the advisability of a search in the books of 
the Buckinghamshire. As I am not able to make 
this search myself. I mention it in hopes of at- 
tracting the attention of another CLARRY, who 
knows where those books are, and who may be 
able and willing to make the search. 
^ Looking to "the identity of Christian name, 
Charles, I should have been inclined to believe 
that the age was understated in the petition with 
the view to getting admission into the society 
within the limited age ; but it is scarcely possible 
that the committee could have passed a vouug 
man of twenty-two as a boy of seventeen, a fact 
which strengthens the probability that we have 
here a second Dromio. 

Jt is true that in a MS. autobiography of the 



" Suppressed Prince," which is now before me, he 
passes over the first thirty odd years of his life with- 
out any mention as to how or where they were 
passed. But then we know that on the death of 
Mrs. Serres, in 1834, a son came forward, and en- 
deavoured, by an application to the magistrate at 
Union Hall, to obtain possession of her effects and 
papers ; and from the report of the proceedings m 
the Times of Nov. 29, 1834, we learn that he 
claimed to be the only child of his mother, deny- 
ing that she had ever had any daughter. But then, 
oddly enough, this son, of whom Mr. Murray, the 
magistrate, said he knew nothing to his credit, ad- 
mitted he had been to the Cape of Good Hope, 
but had returned, being unable to obtain employ- 
ment. Will the records of the Buckinghamshire- 
clear up this mystery? WILLIAM J. THOMS, 
40, St. George's Square, S.W. 

A NOTTINGHAMSHIRE NEW YEAR'S EVE CUS- 
TOM. The following custom is still observed, to a 
limited extent, in Nottingham. One of the heads 
of the family, previous to locking the street door 
for the last time in the year, carefully deposits a 
gold coin in close proximity to the door, where it 
is allowed to remain until the new year has been 
ushered in by the ringing of the church bells, whem 
the gold is taken indoors. This is believed to en- 
sure the supply of money for the year's necessaries.. 
J. POTTER BRISCOE. 

Nottingham Library. 

CROMWELL'S WATERMEN'S BADGES. I am> 
curious to kno\v whether any of the watermen's- 
badges, described in the subjoined order of the 
Protector's Council, are still in existence. Never- 
theless I fear that they must have been all melted' 
down at the Restoration. It is very probable that 
the celebrated Thomas Simon made the design and 
die for the badges. The arms, &c., were similar 
to those on Oliver's Great Seal (made by Simon), 
viz. : A square garnished shield bearing quarterly 
of four 1st and 4th, the cross of St. George ; 2nd, 
the saltire of St. Andrew ; 3rd, the harp of Ire- 
land ; over all, on an inescutcheon. a lion rampant,, 
the paternal arms of Cromwell. The shield is sur- 
mounted with the royal helmet, ensigned with the- 
royal crown, supporting the crest of England, a 
lion statant-guardant, imperially crowned. Sup- 
porters : Dexter, a lion guardant crowned ;. 
sinister, a dragon. 

The following is the order from the Council 
Entry Book, No. 106, p. 139, in the Public Record 
Office : 

" Wednesday, 9tli September, 1657. Ordered that the 
Commission" for the Adm*- v and Navy doe forthw th Cause 
Badges to be made for his Highness Watermen, accord- 
ing to y e draught now agreed on in the Counsel!, being 
the Armes of the Com'ou Wealth with his Highness 
Escutcheon of pretence, the Crest on a Crowne, a Lyon 
passant Crowned, the Supporters, a Lyon Crowned, and 



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NOTES AND QUERIES. 



a Dragon, with the Letters P at the upper p't [part] o 
y e Badge." 

The badges, 58 in number, cost 347?. 6s. 5d. 
and the following (from the Money Warrant Book 
of the Council, No. 12V) is the warrant autho- 
rizing the payment of this sum to Edward Back- 
well, goldsmith : 

"In pursuance of an order beareing date herewith, 
These are to will and require you, out of such monyes as 
shall come into your hands on accompt of the Counsells 
Contingencies, ,to satisfie and pay to Edward Backwell of 
London, Goldsmith, the som'e of three hundred forty 
seven pounds six shillings and five pence, being in full 
satisfac'con for ffifty eight Badges for his Highness 
watermen, provided by the said Edward Backwell in pur- 
suance of two severall orders of y e Counsell. Hereof 
you are not to faile, and for soe doing this shalbe your 
sufficient Warrant. Given at Whitehall this Ninth day 
of March 1657 (-8). 

(Signed) He. Lawrence, President. 

Mulgrave, Phi. Skippon, Phi. Jones, 
P. Lisle, Char. Wolsley, Gil. Pickering. 
To Gualter Frost Esq r , 
Tre'ar. for y e Councells Contingencyes." 

HENRY W. HENFREY. 

THE GATES OF ST. PAUL'S. Posterity may be 
glad to know that the State entrance gates of St. 
Paul's Cathedral, and about 125 feet of iron rail- 
ing, are now offered " for a lump sum of 150?.," 
" delivered to vans at our yard," by Messrs. 
Davies of Vauxhall, iron and metal merchants. 
These gates, with the railing, were erected about 
the year 1710, and are nearly the last specimen of 
Sussex iron that we have. All the English sove- 
reigns and State functionaries who have come to 
St. Paul's during 150 years have passed through 
these gates. Posterity will be surprised to learn 
the gates and railing have been refused even at 
the modest figure quoted above. A. J. M. 

EUROPEAN IGNORANCE OF AMERICA. A gazet- 
teer published in England about sixty years ago 
confounded Salem, Massachusetts, with Salem, 
New Jersey, and described it as a city situate on 
an island in the river Delaware, opposite to Phila- 
delphia. Such ignorance is excusable when com- 
pared with that of a graduate of an American 
college, who, on being asked in Europe how the 
President of the United States was elected, 
answered that the governors of the different states 
met together every four years "and elected the 
president. M. E. 

Philadelphia. 

SOUND IN FOGS. There is a very interesting 
story, told for fact in one of Basil Hall's works, of 
a boat party of officers and men leaving their ship 
during a calm for a few hours' visit to a small un- 
inhabited rocky island lying a little way out of 
their course. Shortly after landing a fog came on, 
which induced them to take rather hastily to their 
boat ; but, after rowing a little way, the fog thick- 
ened so much that they found all at once, to their 



great dismay, that they had lost sight both of 
island and ship. They continued in this rather 
alarming predicament, floating about and not dar- 
ing to use their oars, for many hours, until at last, on 
the fog unexpectedly lifting, they found themselves 
but a short distance from their ship. The curious 
part of the story is, that those who remained in the 
ship had been constantly firing signal guns, not one 
of which had been heard by those in the boat. I 
perfectly well remember reading the account many 
years ago in one of Basil Hall's works, but cannot 
recollect in which. This reference may, perhaps, 
be of interest to some just at this time. 

K. HILL SANDYS. 

THE TITLE "REVEREND." The following is from 
Prof. Willis's Canterbury Cathedral, " Qui ope et 
auxilio Rev* patris T. Arundell navem istius eccle- 
si^e . . . renovavit " (Obit. Ang. Sac., p. 143). The 
date is A.D. 1390-1411. Another example I copied 
from Preston Church (" N. & Q.," 5 th S. iv. 409), 
of the date A.D. 1459. W. F. HOBSON. 



CHttmrS. 

[We must request correspondents desiring information 
on family matters of only private interest, to affix their 
names and addresses to their queries, in order that the 
answers may be addressed to them direct.] 

THE METRICAL PSALMS. Among the partial 
versions noted by Mr. Holland in the Psalmists of 
Britain, 1843, I do not find this : 

' One and fortie Divine Odes, Englished, set to King 
David's Princely Harpe by S. P. L. London : Printed 
by M.'jF., 1627." 

Another title : 

"An Assay, or Bvchanan his Paraphrases on the 
twentie Psalmes of David, translated. Lond. : R. Y, 
for Kichard Moore, 1627." 
The latter applies to the earlier part of the 

Divine Odes," showing it to be one work. 

My question, therefore, is, Who was this 
S. P. L. ? It may be premised that two* Christian 
names were not common at the period, conse- 
quently these initials are more likely to be indi- 
cative of the author's surname, and, seeking to 
Ix them upon a known name of the day, I find 
they will very well fit the name of Sempill. Now, 
considering that it was fashionable at the time for 
royalty and nobility (King James, Lords Stirling, 
Bacon, &c., for examples) to try their hands at 
David's harp, I venture to suggest that the initials 
will suit Sir James Sempill. 

There is certainly not much in the known works 
of Sir James that would lead us to this conclusion. 
He was, however, in the habit of abbreviating his 
name, as shown in his Sacriledge Sacredly Handled, 
by I. S. L., and his Picktooili for the, Pope, by 
S. I. S. 

It may be further mentioned that Sir James 



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[5 th S. V. JAN. 1, 76. 



was the godson of King James his fellow-pupil 
under Buchanan and one of the Court set ; and 
from the following extract it may be inferred how 
ready he would be to follow the king and tutor's 
example in imitating the Psalms : 

" Yea, behold." says he, "what interest I have also in 
our sacred David : even devoted to his Service, by ray 
parents, before I was ; thereafter named in, and after his 
Majesties owne name, before himselfe could know it ; yet 
after knowledge, confirmed, and in bis H. Court, almost 
ever since, both nursed and schooled. And so is our 
Darid the king of my birth ; the master of my service ; 
the father of my name ; framer of my nature ; and the 
Gamaliel of my education ; at whose feet (no, at whose 
elbow, and from whose mouth) I confesse I have suckt 
the lest of whatsoever may be thought good in me."* 

There is certainly one leetle point I had not 
observed before framing my query, and that is that 
Sir James Sempill died in 1626. The book may, 
however, have been posthumous. At all events, 
the question of authorship is of interest ; and I 
shall be glad to hear if any correspondent can 
throw light upon it. J. 0. 

AN OLD PICTURE. I shall be glad to receive 
information on the following. I have a quaint 
old picture by Cerquozzi (Michel Angelo); the 
old man is giving the boys a taste out of his large 
mustard pot, which I did not understand until I 
met with an old Dutch print with these lines : 
" Eloigne toy d'icy passant Melancholique 
Cet image n'a point 1'Art de plaire a tes yeux, 
Tu gemis, tu te plains, tout y paroist Joyeux 
Et juscjues aux Enfans chacun t'y fait la nique. 
Ce bon homme sur tous riant de ton Ennuy, 
Te declare la guerre, en broyant sa moutarde, 
Et nous oblige tous par son humeur gaillarde, 
A lunnir le Chagrin, et rirc comme luy." 

THOMAS WARNER. 
Cirencescer. 

ARCHITECTURAL INSTITUTE or SCOTLAND. 

This Society issued to its members a series of 

igs, entitled "Illustrations of Scottish 

dings," during the Sessions from 1861-62 to 

1 ^7< '-71 inclusive. Can any of your correspondents 

1:1 me if any such were issued for the Sessions 

VC(j, lsGG-67, and 1867-68? If so, what 

buildings did they represent ? 

THOMAS GEORGE STEVENSON. 
Edinburgh. 

' K'-rn THE MOAIJITESS." I have the proo. 
-"Euth the Moahitess, a Poem in 
seven scenes, with notes. Not published." Neithe 
:-, place printer, nor date; but, as Heber'i 
we is alluded to, it must be subsequent t. 
is covered with MS. corrections ; and 
have never met with the poem in its corrected 
state I desire to know if it passed the pres 
10 author's name. j Q 



Sacriledf/e Sacredly Handled, 1619. 



BRISTOL CATHEDRAL LIBRARY. I read some- 
where lately that, in the Bristol riots of 1813, the 
ibrary of the cathedral was destroyed by the 
ioters. Is there a catalogue extant of the library 
s it existed previous to the riots, or did it perish 
ogether with the books and MSS. ? 

J. MACRAY. 

' ATTORNEY '=one who is put in the place or 
akes the turn of another. An old writer speaks 
f Jesus as our only attorney between God and 
nan." I have a note to the above effect in my 
Kaitaloips. Can any of your readers say who the 
old writer " referred to was 1 

Hie ET UBIQUE. 

SAMUEL LEIGH or OLLERTON. I shall be much 
bliged to any of your Cheshire correspondents for 
nformation about him. He was second son of 

eter Leigh of High Leigh, who died in 1658. He 

vas married at Rostnerne to Sarah Yarwood of 

Ollerton, near Knutsford, in 1672, and died in 

690. By his will, which is at Chester, he leaves 

100Z. for a school or some other charitable object 

it Ollerton ; but no mention is made of wife or 

children. I should be glad to know if his wife 

urvived him, and if he had children ; if so, what 

heir names were. Samuel Leigh was, I imagine, 

i Presbyterian. MATHEW GOCH. 

BURNS. Why does Mr. Carlyle, in his Heroes- 
ind Hero- Worship, place Burns amongst the "Men 
f Letters " instead of amongst the " Poets " 1 Hia 
;wo representative poets are Dante and Shak- 
speare. But, although Burns was far below these 
^iants in poetical power, he was as true a poet as 
either of them. I cannot understand why Dante 
should be a "hero, as poet," and Burns only a 
" hero, as man of letters." 

JONATHAN BOUCHIER. 

BISHOP POCOCKE'S VISIT TO IONA. Pennant r 
in his account of lona (vol. iii. p. 295), mentions, at 
a little distance from the ruins of the monastery.,. 

a square containing a cairn and surrounded by a 
stone dyke," and adds : 

' This is called a burial place : it must have been in- 
very early times, cotemporary with other cairns, perhaps 
in the days of Druidism, for Bishop Pocock mentions that 
he had seen two stones, seven feet high, with a third laid 
across on their tops, an evident cromlek; he also adds, 
that the Irish name of the island was Misli Drunish." 

By Bishop Pocock, Pennant evidently means the 
celebrated Eastern traveller, Dr. Eichard Pococke,. 
who was made Bishop of Ossory in 1756, and 
translated to Meath in 1765. He is said to have 
travelled in Scotland ; and a description of a rock.,. 
on the west side of the harbour of Dunbar, re- 
sembling the Giants' Causeway, was published in 
the Philosophical Transactions, vol. Iii. art. 17. 

As Bishop Pococke died in September, 1765, 
and Pennant did not visit lona till 1772, it is 



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NOTES AND QUERIES. 



9 



obvious that Pennant must have derived his infor- 
mation from some published account of Bishop 
Pococke's tour in Scotland, but I have been quite 
unable to discover from what source Pennant 
makes the statement. 

I should be greatly obliged if any of your 
readers could refer me to the work of Bishop 
Pococke from which the quotation is made. 

WILLIAM F. SKENE. 

" THE PRESENT STATE OF LONDON." I lately 
met with a small volume, in an imperfect state, 
pp. 4 to 470, headed as above, but without title- 
page, &c. The book appears to have been pub- 
lished in the year after the establishment of the 
Penny Post, viz., in 1681. It contains much 
curious information about London, and has en- 
gravings of public buildings, the city gates, the 
arms of the London companies, &c. The book is 
probably well known. I would be glad to know 
the name of the author, and when and where pub- 
lished. W. H. PATTERSON. 

RERESBY. A curious coincidence with regard 
to this name or family has lately come under my 
notice. There is now living at Barnsley, co. York, 
one George Reresby, a labourer, born July 9, 
1807, who was only son of Leonard Reresby. The 
latter was admitted as an inmate of the Found- 
ling Hospital, 1748, and was baptized Oct. 9 of 
the same year, and was named Leonard Reresby 
by one Mr. White. His number in the Hospital 
was 458, and in 1760 he was sent to Ackworth, 
co. York. The last baronet but one, Sir William 
Reresby of Thriberg, is stated to have died a 
tapster in the Fleet Prison. His brother, the last 
baronet, Sir Leonard Reresby, died August 11, 
1748, and is stated in the Gent. Mag. to have left 
40001. to the Foundling Hospital. I shall be 
glad to know whether Mr. White had any reason 
for calling the child Leonard Reresby, beyond the 
fact that the baronet of the same name had two 
months previously left 4000Z. to the Hospital. 

ALFRED SCOTT GATTY. 
Ecclesfield Vicarage, Sheffield. 

MRS. OLIVIA TRANT. Can any one give me 
information respecting Mrs. Olivia Trant, who, 
during the regency of the Duke of Orleans in 
France, was employed by the Duke of Orrnond in 
promoting the interests of the first Pretender? 
Where, also, can I find particulars of the escape of 
the Princess Sobieski from Innspruck in the year 
1719 ? A. K. 

" BROAD CHURCH." When was this term first 
used? Conybeare's celebrated article on "Church 
Parties " (Edin. jRcv., No. 200, Oct., 1853) contains 
the earliest mention known to W. H. C. 

LONDON BRIDGE. To what parish does London 
Bridge belong, and where are the baptismal, mar- 



riage, and burial registers of those persons who 
used to live on the bridge itself now deposited ? 

W. P. W. PlIILLIMORE. 

Queen's College, Oxford. 

FICKLIN AND BERNEY FAMILIES. Can you 
give me any particulars relative to the Ficklin 
family that would assist me to complete a pedigree 
of that family ? What are their arms and crest ? 
I am also desirous of discovering where any por- 
traits of the Berney family (baronets of Norfolk) 
may be located. Have any portraits of its mem- 
bers ever been engraved ? BETA. 

SIR ELIAB HARVEY. Is there any portrait ex- 
tant of Captain (afterwards Admiral Sir Eliab) 
Harvey, commander of the famous Temeraire in 
Nelson's time, and subsequently M.P. for Maldon 
and Essex ? Is there any published account of his 
life? F. R. H. 

HERALDIC. According to Thomas's edition of 
Dugdale's Antiquities of Warwickshire, there was 
a shield in Coleshill Church displaying these arms : 
Quarterly 1 and 4, or, a tower azure ; 3 and 4, 
barry nebulee of six or, and sable, for Blount. To 
what family did the former coat belong ? It like- 
wise appeared in a quartered shield of the Mount- 
fort family in Middleton Church, in Warwick- 
shire ; and is still to be seen, in conjunction with 
the arms of Blount, upon a quartered shield of the 
Willoughby family in Wollaton Church, in Not- 
tinghamshire. Burke's General Armoury states 
that the Blounts of Maple-Durham, in Oxfordshire, 
quarter, amongst others, the arms of the Castile 
family. Are they identical with the coat in ques- 
tion ? A. E. L. L. 

AN OLD CAROL. I shall be much obliged if any 
one will fill in the following old carol up to the 
twelfth day : 
" The first day of Christmas my true love sent to me 

A partridge in a pear-tree. 
The second day of Christmas my true love sent to me 

Two turtle doves and a partridge, &c. 
The third day of Christmas my true love sent to me 
Three French hens, two turtle doves," &c. 

H. H. 

"A TOUCHSTONE FOR GOLD AND SILVER 
WARES ; OR, A MANUAL FOR GOLDSMITHS." By 
W. B., of London, Goldsmith. London, 1677. I 
have lately obtained this curious little work. Who 
was W. B. ? Was he a liveryman of the Gold- 
smiths' Company ? WILLIAM J. GREEN. 

ASPINWALL. From whom did this town in 
Central America take its name ? ANON. 

THOMAS CLARKE. Who were the parents of 

Thomas Clarke, who lived at High Wycombe, 

Bucks, for many years, and died there, in 1829, 

ged ninety-one ? He was thus born in or about 



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[5 th S. V. JAN. 1, 76. 



1738. He was three times married : 1st (in 1766), 
to Elizabeth Fowler ; 2ndly, to Martha Shrimpton ; 
and Srdly, to Betty Williams. All these marriages 
took place in High Wycombe. He was also 
several times Mayor of High Wycombe, and in 
the early part of his life was ah adjutant in the 
Bucks Militia. I do not find any entry of his 
baptism in the registers at Wycombe, but I think 
he was born in Buckinghamshire or Berkshire. 

WM. A. CLARKE. 
The Grove, Chippenham, Wilts. 

" SODOM : A PLAY, by the E. of R.," was printed 
in London, in 1684, with the false impress 
" Antwerp." Heber possessed a copy, which did 
not go fco the hammer with the rest of his collec- 
tion, but was reserved, and probably destroyed by 
his executors. Can any of your correspondents 
give me further information concerning this 
notorious production, or, better still, afford me the 
inspection of a copy? Further, any information 
concerning Fishbourne, the supposed author, will 
be acceptable. References to well-known bio- 
bibliographical works are, of course, superfluous. 

FRAXINUS. 



PHILOLOGICAL. 
(5 th S. iv. 489.) 

In asking " whether Danish, Swedish, and Nor- 
wegian are Teutonic or Scandinavian languages," 
your correspondent touches upon an important 
question, concerning which the most contradictory 
answers might easily be given by such as are 
unaware of the ticli ideal meaning of the words 
employed. The whole puzzle (a puzzle which 
some, to my knowledge, arc almost unable to 
solve) consists in the highly technical and artificial 
meaning in which the term "Teutonic" is em- 
ployed in grouping languages, whilst at the same 
time it has, in ordinary speech, a much simpler 
meaning. Ordinarily ''Teutonic" is almost a 
convertible term with "German"; but, in the 
science of language, it has a very different and 
purely technical meaning. In botany we speak of 
classes, sub-classes, orders, genera, species, and 
varieties. In language the corresponding terms 
are families or classes, sub-classes, branches, 
oups, languages, and dialects. Thus Danish 
belongs to the Indo-European family or class 
-uropenn sub-class, Teutonic branch, Scandi- 
navian group ; being in itself a language. The 
same is true for Norwegian, Swedish, and the 
extremely important Icelandic, which should not 
nave been omitted in the question. 

The common mistake is to confuse " Teutonic" 

the above sense with German ; and, even fur- 

ther German is confused with High German. Yet 

Teutonic is the name of a branch, High German is 



the name of a group, and German is the name of a 
language. No wonder that most contradictory 
and confused ideas are current, when these three 
terms are constantly being used as convertible. 
It is just as if, in botany, we were to make no 
distinction between Rosa and Rosacece. 

I hope it will thus be evident that, though 
Danish is said to belong to the Teutonic branch, 
it is not German. Moreover, the Scandinavian 
group is so far from being "German" (in the 
wider sense of High German) that it is much more 
closely allied to the Low German group. 

The right scheme of the languages of the " Teu- 
tonic " branch has been given many times ; see, 
e.g., March's Anglo-Saxon Grammar; Morris's 
Historical Outlines of English Accidence ; Peile's 
Introduction to Latin and Greek Etymology; 
Schleicher's Compendium ; the works of Max 
Miiller, Whitney, &c. They are all agreed in 
principles, but they employ varying terms. Thus, 
in The Life and Growth of Language, Professor 
Whitney uses " family " as synonymous with 
" class," but Dr. Morris uses " family " as synony- 
mous with " branch." The former method is, I 
think, much more convenient. The scheme, as 
given by the above authors, is as follows : 

Family or class. Indo-European (sometimes 
called Indo-Germanic, in order to make confusion 
worse confounded). 

Hub-classes. I. Aryan. 2. European. 

Branches. -I. From the Aryan : 1. Indian ; 2. 
Eranian or Iranian. II. From the European : 3. 
Greek ; 4. Albanian ; 5. Italian ; 6. Keltic ; 
7. Slavonic ; 8. Lithuanian ; 9. Teutonic. 

Groups. I omit the subdivisions of the first 
eight of the above branches, and consider only the 
Teutonic. Of the Teutonic branch the groups 
are : 1. Low German ; 2. Scandinavian ; 3. 
High German. 

Languages. Here the subdivisions are the fol- 
lowing : I. From the Low German : 1. Moeso- 
Gothic or Gothic (dead) ; 2. English ; 3. Frisian ; 
4. Old Saxon or Platt-Deutsch ; 5. Dutch ; 6. 
Flemish. II. From the Scandinavian : 7. Ice- 
landic ; 8. Swedish ; 9. Danish ; 10. Norwegian 
(which is, perhaps, more a dialect of Danish than 
a separate language). III. From the High Ger- 
man : 11. German. 

If this be understood, the comparative descrip- 
tions of English, Icelandic, and German will ap- 
pear as follows : 

Branch, Teutonic ; group, Low German ; lan- 
guage, English. 

Branch, Teutonic ; group, Scandinavian ; lan- 
guage, Icelandic. 

Branch, Teutonic ; group, High German ; lan- 
guage, German. 

The confusion constantly exhibited by " etymolo- 
gists " consists in mixing up the Teutonic branch, 
High German group, and German language, rolling 



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them all into one ; from whence comes the absur- 
dity of looking upon English and Icelandic as 
" German " languages. 

It is easy to see how the trouble arose. It is 
the old story of the sculptor and the lion. If the 
lion had executed the sculpture, he might have 
represented the lion as conquering the man. The 
nomenclature came from Germany, and hence not 
only was German used to mean a language, but 
High German designates one group, Low German 
another ; next, Teutonic was given as the name of 
a whole branch, much as if an Englishman were to 
call the branch "Anglic." Nor did the forced 
nomenclature stop here, but the attempt was made 
to use Germanic as the name of a sub-class, making 
Germany to include nearly all Europe, and then 
Indo-Germanic became the name of the complete 
family of languages ! Happily, the last term has 
hardly found favour, and thus a last source of 
confusion has been set aside. Much as we are 
indebted to the Germans, I think this nomen- 
clature has seriously misled a great number of 
Englishmen. It would have been better if some 
more vague term, such as Gothic, could have been 
used for the name of the branch. 

One most common result is the " deriving " of 
English words from German. It is something like 
looking for a rose on an apple-tree, because they 
both belong to the Bosacece. 

If any one who has any difficulty upon this sub- 
ject will only use the language of botany, he will 
at once get a clear idea of the matter. The 
" branch " is an order, the " group " is a genus, the 
" language " is a species. Neither Icelandic nor 
English is " Teutonic " in a generic sense ; they 
merely belong to the order of Teutonacece, which is 
a very different matter. WALTER W. SKEAT. 

Cintra Terrace, Cambridge. 

The Danish and Swedish languages must, of 
course, be classed under the term " Scandinavian," 
but certainly not under that of " Teutonic " ; but, 
like the Saxon and Dutch, under that of " Gothic." 
The Osmanli Turkish is based upon Uigur, Mon- 
gol, and perhaps a few other of the numerous 
Tatar dialects. But the great body of the Tur- 
kish would seem to be composed of Arabic and 
Persian, a fact which Mr. Isaac Taylor would 
have done well to note when he endeavoured to 
trace Etruscan to the so-called Turanian languages. 
The Turkish has also some words from Greek and 
the modern languages. The proportions derived 
from each language may be seen by referring to 
the dictionaries of Kieffer and Bianchi, and Red- 
house. R. S. CHARNOCK. 

Paris. 

ROBERT PURSGLOVE (5 th S. iv. 451.) In Tides- 
well Church, co. Derby, is an interesting brass to 
this bishop. I copied the inscription this summer, 



and it contains a full reply to W. L., except that 
there is no coat of arms. The brass was till lately 
on a raised tomb, but is now on the floor, in what 
is believed to have been its original position. The 
bishop is represented in eucharistic vestments 
mitre, chasuble, stole, embroidered gloves, but 
without maniple, and with the pastoral staff over 
his left shoulder. This is noteworthy, considering 
the date of his death. At the corners are the 
Evangelistic symbols, and this legend : 

" + Christ is to me as life on earth, and death to me is 
gaine Because I trust through him alone salvation to 
obtaine. So brittle is the state of man, so soon it doth 
decay ; So all the glory of this world must pas and fade 
away. This Robert Pursglove, sometyme Bishoppc of 
Hull, deceassed the 2 day of May in the yere of our 
Lord God, 1579." 

At the foot of the stone is another inscription on 
an oblong brass ; it is in black-letter, excepting 
the words printed below in Italics, which are in 
Roman type : 

" Under this stone as here doth Ly a corps somtime of 

fame, 
in tiddeswall bred and born truely, Robert Pursglove 

by name, 
and there brought up by parents care at School & 

learning trad, 

till afterwards by uncle dear to London he was had, 
who, William Bradshaw hight by name, in pauls w c h 

did him place, 
and y r at Schoole did him maintain full thrice 3 whole 

years space, 

and then into the Abberye was placed as I wish 
in Southwarke call'd where it doth Ly Saint Mary 

Overis, 
to Oxford then who did him Send into that Colledge 

right, 
And there 14 years did him find, wh Corpus Christi 

night ; 
From thence at length away he went, A Clerke of 

learning great, 
to Gislurn Alley Streig ht was sent and placd in 

Priors seat. 

Bishop of Hull he was also Archdeacon of Nottingham, 
Provost of RoTHeram Colledge too, of York eak 

Suffragan ; 
two Gramer Schooles he did ordain with Land for to 

endure, 

one Hospital for to maintain twelve impotent and poor. 
O Gisburne, thou with Tiddeswall Town Lement & 

mourn you may, 
for this Said Clerk of great renoun Lyeth here compast 

in clay ; 
though cruell Death hath now dow' brought this body 

w here doth ly, 
yet trump of Fame Stay can he nought to Sound his 

praise on high. 

Qui legis hunc versum crebro reliquum memoreris 
vile cadaver sum tuque cadaver eris." 

W. D. SWEETING. 
Peterborough. 

This divine was Prior of Guisburn Abbey, Arch- 
deacon of Nottingham, Provost of Rotheram 
College, and in 1559 "Suffragan Bishop of the 
See of Hull." 

Queen Elizabeth, by letters patent in the second 



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and third years of her reign, granted him separate 
licences to found a grammar school at Tyddeswell 
(Tideswell), Derbyshire, and a grammar schopl and 
almshouse at Guisburn (Guisborough), N. K., co. 
York. He died May 2, 1579. 

H. M. VANE. 
Eaton Place, S.W. 

He died in 1579. A fine brass, with a bio- 
graphical memoir of him, remains at Tideswell, 
and a full account will be found in the Cambridge 
Camden Society's Illustrations of Monumental 
Brasses, p. 19. * There are no arms on the brass. 
C. K. MANNING. 

Diss Rectory. 

After Queen Elizabeth began her reign, the 
Oath of Supremacy was offered to him, but, refus- 
ing to take it, he was deprived of his archdeaconry 
and other spiritualities. He retired to Tideswell, 
where he founded the Grammar School, and there 
died in 1579. For further particulars see Wood's 
jlthentr. G. W. NAPIER. 

Alderley Edge. 

See Brett's Suffragan Bishops, p. 61. Wharton 
identifies this bishop Brett does not, p. 57 with 
one Hubert Silvester, who is called also Bishop of 
Hull and Archdeacon of Nottingham. But Le 
Neve calls Archdeacon Silvester William. 

C. F. S. WARREX, M.A. 
Bexhill. 

< THE SOCIT-TY OF FRIENDS (5 th S. iv. 479.) The 

Society of Friends have no official publication to 

record or report their meetings, except at the 

close of their annual or yearly meeting, when an 

abstract of the minutes and proceedings of that 

is published for the use of the members 

ally. The periodicals devoted to the Society, 

in which the reports of the meetings, and other 

rination of interest to the members, will be 

found, are as follows : 

>' Ti hC r ' e nd Published monthly in London. 

7 T I v T , , ;r d ' V ublished nthly in Glasgow. 
3. The Monthly Record, published in Birmingham 
London Quarterly Examiner, published in 

Any of those periodicals may be obtained at 

Samuel ILimss, bookseller, 5, Bishopsgate Street 

who has also the care of the publications 

9 the Friends' Tract Association. The?e 

Oxford CpfwK d f dlted by J Seph Smith ' 2 > 
5tieet, Whitechapel, in 2 vols. 8vo., 1867- 



Quake,, <, 



As to doctrinal and other works circulated in the 



Society, if ETHELBERTA will favour me with her 
address, I will send her by "Parcels' Delivery" or 
otherwise, as she may direct, a copy of each of the 
smaller editions of Barclay's Apology and Bates's 
Doctrines of Friends, both of which are authorized 
expositions of the principles of the Society of 
Friends. I would also enclose with the above a 
catalogue of the Friends' Library of Devonshire 
House Meeting, 86, Hounclsditch, these books, 
under certain regulations, being lent to individuals 
not in membership with us. Of periodicals in the 
interest of the Society of Friends in America, the 
oldest, and most conservative of the original prin- 
ciples and practices of the Society, is The Friend, 
a Religious and Literary Journal, published 
weekly in Philadelphia, and sold by an agent in 
London. This periodical has been in existence 
nearly half a century : the London magazines 
about thirty-five years. Should ETHELBERTA re- 
quire any further information, I will endeavour to 
supply it. JOHN HICKES. 

12, Bishopsgate Street Without. 

SWEARING ON THE HORNS AT HIGHGATE (1 st S. 
iii. 342 ; iv. 84 ; xi. 409.) I desire to know what 
representations there are of the above, except the 
following, copies of which I possess : 

1. " Swearing at Higbgate." Inscription ending, "So 
help you, Billy Bodkin, Turn round and fulfill your 
Oath. Published 12th Sepr., 1796, by Laurie & Whittle, 
5-3, Fleet Street, London." 

2. " Woodward, del. Cruickshank, sculp. Swearing 
at Highgate. London : Published by Allen & West. 15, 
Paternoster Row, Augt. 27, 1796." 

3. " R. Cruikshank, del. White, sc. 

Johnny the maid for the mistress refused, 
Because he 'd been sworn at Highgate, 
By the monstrous horns at Highgate." 
Followed by "The monstrous horns at Highgate," three 
stanzas, apparently from a book. Query, What ? 

4. " Swearing on the Horns at Highgate, from Hone's 
Every-Day Book." 

Hone says : 

" Anciently there was a register kept at the Gate-house, 
wherein persons enrolled their names when sworn there, 
but the book unaccountably disappeared many years ago. 
Query, Is it in Mr. Upcott's collection of autographs?" 

Can any of your readers inform me of the present 
whereabouts of this book, or of any account of the 
oath except that given by Hone 1 

I should much like to purchase or see copy of 
print representing the above published by Carring- 
ton Bowles, St. Paul's Churchyard, about the end 
of last century. GEORGE POTTER. 

42, Grove Road, Holloway. 

" SERBONIAN BOG " (5 th S. iv. 328.) Milton evi- 
dently adopted from Diodorus Siculus the notion of 
armies whole sunk in the Scrbonian bog" : 
"There is a lake," observes that author, "between 
Ccelo-Syna and Egypt, very narrow but exceedinglv 

deep, called feerbon compassed round with vast heaps 

of sand, great quantities of which are drifted into the 
lake by the continued southern winds, and so cover the 



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surface of the water that it resembles (and cannot possi- 
bly be distinguished from) dry land; thus many, un- 
acquainted with the peculiarity of the spot, l)y missing their 
way, have been swallowed up, together with whole armies." 

TroAAot TCUV ayvoo?;vTO>v Ttjy 
roTrov, /zero, o-TpaTaymrooi/ 6'Awj> rj 
T>7? VTTOKei/zei/?;? o8ov Sta/xaprovres. Lib. i. 30. 

This is an exaggerated statement of Diodorus, 
and justifies Juvenal's 

" Quidquid Greecia mendax 
Audet in historia" (Sat. x. 175), 

and Pliny's " portentosa Grsecorum mendacia" 
(lib. v. i.). In lib. xvi. c. ix. an instance is given 
of the submersion in the lake of a portion only of 
the force led by Ochus (Artaxerxes III.) against 
Nectanebo II., the last native King of Egypt, the 
ultimate success of which expedition signally ful- 
filled the prophecy of Ezekiel (xxx. 13), " There 
shall be no more a prince of the land of Egypt." 
The untoward event above named is narrated by 
the historian in these words : 

d$/ooiVas (sc. 12)(os) Tracrav rrjv Svva/ziv 7rpor?yei 
7T6 rrjv Ai-yvn-rov, Karaa'nyo-as S'e/ri T^vyueyaX^v 
, KaO' i}v eo-rt ra KaXovfjieva ftaipa&pa, 
a77e/?aA.e, Sta ri)v 



"Ochus, having collected all his forces, marched 
against Egypt, and when he came to the Great Lake, 
at the point called Barathra, through ignorance of the 
localities, lost a portion of his force in the bogs." 

WILLIAM PLATT. 

Conservative Club. 

Todd, in his edition of Milton's Paradise Lost, 
has the following note on this passage : 

" Serbonis was a lake of 200 furlongs in length, and 
1000 in compass, between the ancient mountain Casiua 
and Damiata, a city of Egypt, on one of the more 
eastern mouths of the Nile. It was surrounded on all 
sides by hills of loose sand, which, carried into the water 
by high winds, so thickened the lake as not to be dis- 
tinguished from part of the continent, where whole 
armies have been swallowed up. Head Herodotus, 
lib. iil, and Lucan, Pharsal. viii. 539, &c." 

G. W. NAPIER. 

Alderley Edge. 

"The Sirbonian region is celebrated in history for 
having been the scene of at least the partial destruction 
of the Persian army in B.C. 350, when Darius Ochus was 
leading it, after the storming of Sidon, to -^Egypt, in 
order to restore the authority of Persia in that kingdom. 
Diodorus (i. 30) has probably exaggerated the serious 
disaster into a total annihilation of the invading host." 
Will. Smith, Diet, of Greek and Rom. Geog., sub voc. 
"Sibronis Lacus." 

EDWARD PEACOCK. 

DR. JOHNSON AND THE FORD AND HICKHIAN 
FAMILIES (5 th S. i. 30, 112, 249.) Since my last 
communication on the above subject I have found 
the wills of Dr. Joseph Ford and Jane Ford, his 
widow. Both are described as of Oldswinford, in 
the county of Worcester. Mrs. Ford's will, which 
is dated Sept. 11, 1722, and was proved at Wor- 



cester in the following month, contains an inte- 
resting allusion to Dr. Johnson's parents which 
clearly establishes the relationship. She desires 
her son Cornelius to pay to her brother-in-law, 
Michael Johnson, and his wife, or their trustees, 
" the 200Z. directed by his late dear father's will 
to be paid to me in lieu of such moneys as my late 
husband received in trust for my said brother 
Johnson and his wife." 

I have not yet ascertained the parentage of Mrs> 
Ford. She mentions her sister, Joice Ward, and 
her nieces, Ann Hunt and Mary Withers. Nor 
have I discovered the baptismal name of Mrs. 
Johnson's father ; but I am inclined to identify 
the latter with Cornelius Ford of Kingsnorton, co. 
Worcester, who in 1667 was "overseer" of the 
will of John Brettell of Kidderminster. It seems 
now quite clear that "Parson Ford" was not 
Cornelius, the son of Dr. Joseph ; for Mrs. Ford 
leaves the residue of her estate, real and personal, 
to her son Cornelius, and requests him to "con- 
tinue a friend and father to my family." She 
also appoints him sole executor of her will ; and 
no doubt he was the Cornelius Ford who was 
buried at Oldswinford, Dec. 10, 1734. 

Dr. Ford mentions three brothers in his will, 
Cornelius, Samuel, and Nathaniel ; also a sister, 
Mrs. Elizabeth Bowyer (to whom he leaves 340Z.). 
To Phoebe, the daughter of his brother Cornelius, 
he leaves certain property, and desires his brother 
Nathaniel to be her guardian, although her father 
was then alive. I think the " parson " must have 
been a son of Nathaniel, and that it was with 
Cornelius (b. 1693, ob. 1734), the son of Joseph, 
that Johnson resided, when at school at Stour- 
bridge in 1724. 

One of your correspondents communicated with 
me privately soon after the appearance of my for- 
mer note, calling my attention to a passage in Sir 
John Hawkins's Life of Johnson, in which it is 
stated that upon Johnson's leaving the University 
" he went home to the house of his father, which 
he found so nearly filled with relatives, that is to 
say, the maiden sisters of his mother and cousin 
Cornelius Ford, whom his father, on the decease 
of their brother in the summer of 1731, had taken 
to board, that it would scarce receive him." This, 
as my correspondent remarks, is far from clear. 
Does it mean " the maiden sisters of his mother, 
and those of his cousin Cornelius"? And was 
the person who died in 1731 the brother of Mrs. 
Johnson or of the sisters of Cornelius ? I find in 
the Oldswinford registers the burial of " Nathaniel 
Ford, Dec. 25, 1731," who, I suppose, is the 
brother in question, though he could not have 
died in the summer. A " Mr. Nathaniel Forde " 
was also buried there, July 4, 1729. 

Mrs. Ford mentions, among others, her " daughter 
Acton " ; and Dr. Ford mentions his " son-in-law, 
Mr. Clement Acton." The lady was Mary,. 



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daughter of Mrs. Ford by her first husband, Gre- 
gory Hickman ; and it was her daughter Mary to 
whom the Rev. Walter Hickman refers as his 
" kinswoman and affianced bride." 

I may as well here mention that the present 
Hickmans are descended from Gregory (son of the 
above Gregory) by his second wife, Elizabeth Law, 
his first wife having been (it will be remembered) 
the widow of his cousin, Richard Hickman, and 
the mother of Mrs. Turton. I shall be greatly 
obliged to any correspondent who can state the 
parentage of " Parson Ford." 

H. SYDNEY GRAZEBROOK. 

Stourbridge. 

POETS THE MASTERS OF LANGUAGE (4 th S. xi. 
110 ; 5 th S. iv. 431, 491.) I have not only read 
Max Miiller, but have bestowed on him more 
marginalia than on most books on my shelves ; 
and I wholly differ from him in his theory that 
langnage is a physical science. The materialism 
which is now fashionable cannot endure ; and the 
attempt to apply Darwinism to language, the 
vehicle of thought, is, in my judgment, a complete 
failure. 

W. H. remarks that " not even a Byron could 
effect such a radical alteration as the conversion of 
a transitive verb into an intransitive one, always 
proridcd thnt there be no latent capacity of change, 
e.cittinfi in (lie word." Is not the phrase I italicize 
a pet it I o principiif Has not every word that 
capacity, patent rather than latent ? 'When Virgil 
used the intransitive verb tremisco transitively 
(Anc-;>l, iii. (J48), is it not probable that Rome 
accepted the innovation ? 

I agree with W. H. that man may be, and 
indeed is, the formal, but cannot be the efficient, 
cause of language. It is only a part of a wider 
truth, that man is not the primal cause of anything 
-though I hold man to be the final cause of all 
things. 

"Who," asks W. H., "would be considered 
(capable of being entrusted with this power ?" 

tpoirer of changing language. As well ask who 
r>e entrusted with the power of leading armies, 
iking discoveries in chemistry or astronomy, of 
" Wielding at will a fierce democratic." 

The complete answer to W. H. is that great 
i speakers do change the force of words. 

When General Wolfe first used the expression 

Mice of difficulties,' which was contradiction, 

oice then meaning voluntary election, he made 

^ whom he wrote see his position with much 

more effect than could have been produced a second 

time bj the same words" (De Morgan, Double 

A Igtbm, p. cjo .). In a ^^ -^ ^ 

Sli ' en , e( l the meanin s of the word 

conspicuous," and has made a person or thing 
conspicuous by absence." MAKROCHEIR 



ARABELLA FITZJAMES (5 th S. iv. 488.) This 
lady was Arabella Churchill, eldest child of Sir 
Winston Churchill, and sister of the great Duke 
of Marlborough. She was at one time a favoured 
mistress of King James II. when he was Duke of 
York, and assumed the name of Fitzjames. She 
was the mother of four children James Fitzjames, 
the Duke of Berwick ; Henry Fitzjames, the Grand 
Prior of France ; Henrietta Fitzjames, afterwards 
Lady Waldegrave ; and Elizabeth Fitzjames, who 
became a nun. 

Arabella Fitzjames, having been long neglected 
by the Duke, was living in comparative obscurity 
when he came to the throne. Coxe, Life of Marl- 
borough, 1818, i. p. 34, states that after the 
Revolution she was in receipt of a pension on the 
Irish establishment. She then married Colonel 
Charles Godfrey, who, through the influence of her 
brother (then Earl of Marlborough), was appointed 
Keeper of the Jewels in the Tower. As Mrs. 
Godfrey she had two daughters, the elder of 
which, Chariot, married Viscount Falmouth, and 
died in 1*754. 

In Chalmers's Bio. Diet., under the head of 
" Churchill, Sir W.," there is a short notice of this 
lady, in which occurs a most remarkable error. 
The author rightly mentions the four children of 
Arabella Churchill (or Fitzjames), but describes 
the fourth thus : " The youngest daughter was a 
nun, but afterwards married Colonel Godfrey, by 
whom she had two daughters." The sentence 
ought to have been : " The youngest daughter 
was a nun. Arabella Churchill afterwards married 
Colonel Godfrey," &c. EDWARD SOLLY. 

In the Necrology of the English Benedictine 
Ladies of Pontoise, her obituary notice is thus re- 
corded : " Mary Ignatia Fitzjames, daughter of 
James II. and Mrs. Churchill. Professed 1690 ; 
died November 7, 1704, aged 30." Another 
obituary notice is of Agnes Arthur, daughter of 
Sir Daniel Arthur, of Ireland, and of Catharine 
Smith of Crabett, in Sussex ; died 1752, aged 71. 
The lady abbess at the time of Arabella Fitz- 
james's first residence at Pontoise was the Lady 
Anne Neville, daughter of Henry, Lord Aber- 
gavenny, and Lady Mary Sackville, daughter of 
Thomas, first Earl of Dorset. 

MR. HILTON PRICE will find a detailed account 
of the community in Herald and Genealogist, 
vol. iii. p. 66, &c. He would confer a great 
obligation by stating how this paper came into his 
possession, as it might give a clue to the fate of 
others which have been anxiously sought for in 
vain. TEUS< 

Under the heading of " Fitzjames," I find that 
James Fitzjames was a natural son of the Duke 
of York, afterwards James, King of England, born 
in 1671 at Malines, to which place his mother, 



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Arabella Churchill, sister of the great Duke oi 
Marlborough, had journeyed. H. S. 

"CARPET KNIGHT" (5 th S. iv. 428.) The 
expression "carpet knight" may be found in 
Marmion, and I suppose corresponds to " feather- 
bed soldier " : 

"His square-turn'd joints and strength of limb 
Show'd him no carpet knight so trim, 
But in close fight a champion grim, 
In camps a leader sage." 

Canto i. stanza 5. 
The allusion is, of course, to Lord Marmion. 

JOHN PICKFORD, M.A. 
Newbourne Rectory, Woodbridge. 

The origin of this expression has been traced to 
two sources : in the first place it applied to one 
who had been knighted at Court by favour, as 
distinguished from another who had gained the 
honour by the performance of some deed, military 
or otherwise, which entitled him to, or in return 
for which he received, the dignity of a knighthood ; 
and in the second place it was used in the case of 
lawyers, mayors, and other civilians, who were 
invariably knighted kneeling upon a carpet. 

W. S. 
Manchester. 

See Eandle Holmes's Academy of Armoury, iii. 
57: 

" All such as have studied Law, Physic, or any other 
Arts and Sciences, whereby they have become famous, 

.if it be the King's pleasure to knight any such 

Persons, seeing they are not knighted as Soldiers, they 
are not therefore to use the Horseman's Title or Spurs : 
they are only termed simply miles and milites, Knight or 
Knights of the Carpet, or Knights of the Green Cloth, 
to distinguish them from those Knights that are dubbed 
as Soldiers in the Field." 

C. F. S. WARREN, M.A. 

Bexhill. 

" THE SCOTTISH HOUSE OF EOGER " (5 th S. iv. 
359.) Eoger, Ealph, and Hugh may have 
been names in use among the Normans, but the 
first two are of German, and the last is of Dutch 
origin. If the name Playfair was originally Play- 
ford, it was of course derived from a river Play ; 
doubtless from Celtic Hi, a stream, which is liable 
to take the forms of gli, cli, pli : thus rivers named 
Lay, Ley, Lee, Clay, Glay, and Play would be 
etymologically the same ; just as Ian would become 
Clan, Glan, and Plan. But there is an inverse of 
the name, i. e. Fairplay, which, as a Gothic or a 
Dano-Saxon compound, would translate "sheep 
place or meadow," like the surname Farley, and 
perhaps the local name Fairlight, in Sussex. Hal- 
dinus is from O.G. aid-win, noble warrior (conf. 
Adalwin, Baldwin, Gerwin). Eodger or Eoger is 
the same with the O.G. Eudiger (inverse of 
Garrod), which might translate several ways. Thus 
rat-gar would mean " distinguished in counsel," 



or " powerful councillor " ; rat-ger, " a Avar coun- 
cillor." Wachter variously renders 

" Rat, consilium, concilium, senatus, consiliarius, con- 
suitor ; gar, telum, totus et totaliter, paratus, perfectus ; 
ger, telum, missile, bellum, ultro, sponte, libentur, aman- 
ter, gratanter, ex animo, cupidus, cupide, studiosus, 
diligenter ; and rad, cito, celeriter, celer, alacer." 

E. S. CHARNOCK. 

Paris. 

MORGAN'S SYSTEM OF CONSANGUINITY (5 th S. 
iv. 405.) Under this heading MR. GOMME has 
some remarks on the use formerly made of " ne- 
phew " and " niece " to indicate other relationships 
than simply that of brother's or sister's child. An 
instance of this occurs in the epitaph in Bolsover 
Church, Derbyshire, to the memory of Sir Charles 
Cavendish, who died in 1617 : 

" Charles Cavendish to his Sons. 
Sonnes, seek not me among these polished stones, 
Those only hide part of my flesh and bones ; 
Which did they here so neat or pi-oudly dwell, 
Will all be dust, and may not make me swell. 
Let such as have outliv'd all praise 
Trust in the tombs their careful friends do raise : 
I made my life my monument, and yours, 
Tp which there 's no material that endures ; 
Nor yet inscription like it. Write but that, 
And teache your nephews it to emulate ; 
It will be matter loud enough to tell 
Not when I died, but how I liv'd. Farewell." 
As we have nephew and niece from the Latin 
nepos, our present restricted use of the words is 
a narrowing of their original signification. 

ST. SWITHIN. 

"BRANGLE" (5 th S. iv. 405.) A brangle, in 
the dialect of Lindsey, signifies anything confused 
or entangled. A man said to me, within the last 
few days, talking on drainage matters, " . . . . 
gotten his sen into a strange brangle about Ean 
Dyke, an' there '11 be some brass spent afore he 's 
gotten his sen out agean, I'm thinkin'." He meant 
that the person whose name is here indicated by 
dots had become entangled in a serious and com- 
plex matter with regard to drainage rights, and 
that lawsuits were impending. K. P. D. E. 

SHAKING HANDS (5 th S. iv. 487.) In England, 
down to the reign of Charles II. or a little later, 
the kiss was the common greeting to friends and 

trangers alike, and shaking hands was a mark of 
close intimacy or high favour. In the Diary of 
Anne, Countess of Pembroke (why does not the 
Camden Society publish it ?), her ladyship thinks 
bhe fact of her shaking hands with any one worth 
noting. The kiss for greeting was not the rule 
on the Continent in Henry VII.'s time, for Erasmus, 
who then visited England, was much amused by 
)eing kissed on all sides. When the kiss went out 
as the usual greeting, the stately, distant bow took 

ts place. When hand-shaking became common I 
do not know ; I suspect not very long since. 

HERMENTRUDE. 



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NOTES AND QUERIES. 



[5 th S. V. JAN. 1, '76. 



CALCIES (5 th S. iv. 405, 471.) The word calcie 
is no doubt the same as causey, in which format is 
still in common use on the Borders to signify a 
narrow way either in town or country, and not 
.merely a paved road or chaussce, as commonly sup- 
posed. But instead of a Latin etymon, Scotch 
philologists (as Sibbald and Jamieson) derive it, 
with more probability, from the Teutonic kassie, 
kausijc, kaulsijc=via stricta, the liquid I being in- 
serted for the sake of euphony when it occurs in 
medieval law Latin, as in some Scottish Acts of 
Parliament, or in poetry. Thus Sir David Lind- 
say : 

"3Jak your abbottis of riglite religious men, 

.And not 

Of Crtkctj/-paikeris nor of publicans." 

In common parlance the word is still pronounced 
hereabouts exactly according to its normal form, 
quasi cassc, casscy, causey. At the Bristol meeting 
of the British Association in August last, the Rev. 
J. Earle (editor of the Sa:-'on Chronicle) read a 
paper in the Biological Section " On the Ethno- 
graphy of Scotland," in which he showed, from the 
great proportion of Norse words occurring in Low- 
land Scotch, that the population between the Forth 
and the Humber partook largely of a Scandinavian 
origin. This will account satisfactorily for the 
preservation of the word in its unaltered form to 
the pre.-ent day. W. E. 

Concerning the connexion of chaussee with cal- 
ccata, made with lime, Littre remarks : 

" La cliaussue cst surtout nne levee de terre on la 
chaux n'entre pas ; aussi vaut il mieux prendre calciaius, 
chausse, puis foule, sens qui se trouve en effet dans le 
baa-latin (voy. Du Gauge, calciare) de sortc que la chaussee 
Eerait la terre foulue, pressee." 

ST. SwiTHIN". 

SIR ROBERT KER PORTER (f/ h S. iv. 370.) His 
only daughter married, about the year 1837, a M. 
Kikine,a military man, not belonging to the titled 
ility, but holding rank, as all Russian gentle- 
ion do, according to position in the Government 
'M. and Madame Kikine were both 
.lying two or three years ago on his estates near 
wccuv, and probably are so still. They have no 
ildren of their own, but have adopted one or 
*-. Sir R. Porter had a brother who died some 
s ago, I think at Bath, where he resided I 
? ho was not married, and I know of no 
ner relatives of the name. B. Y. H. 

" THE HISTORY OF Livixa MEN," & c . (5* S. iv. 
-.by John Dunton. See " N. & O " ?nd g 

Vo. 

Ap.cnnEAroN-s' SEALS (r>th $ m iv 397 359 37g 

H?,!i ) ~ I i h f'w h ii- 0re m ?^ this mon " en ' t the'beau- 

>'ltai of Wvkeham, as Archdeacon 

^ncoln Irom which the engraving WPS ma 

lor the Winchester Book of the A^ckeolo 



Institute, repeated in Mr. M. Walcott's William 
of Wykeliam and his Colleges^ and also in Bishop 
Charles Wordsworth's College of St. Mary Winton. 
It is a very poor representation ; for, though the 
superscription is even more worn away than when 
it was engraved, the word "lincolnie" is clearer 
still than in the engraving. 

There is a remarkable interest attaching to this 
seal, as contradicting the "Report of Robert 
Glover, Somerset Herald, to Lord Treasurer Bur- 
leigh, concerning the dispute between Sir Richard 
Fiennes and Humphrey Wickham, Esq., dated 
March, 1572," referred to in Lowth's Life of 
Wykeham, p. 10. Glover there says : 

"The said Bishoppe bare his arms diversly at two 
sondry tymes, as the seals thereof shewed by Sir Kichard. 
Fynes testify. Before he was Bishoppe, when as yet 
he was but Archdeacon of Lincolne, he sealed but with 
one cbeveron in his armes between three roses; but 
after, when he was advanced to the Bishoppricke, he 
sealed with two cheverons between three roses : and so 
ar generally known to this day to be his without contra- 
diction." 

In this seal, however, we have the two chev- 
ronels, or double chevron, when he was still un- 
doubtedly Archdeacon. C. W. BINGHAIM. 

I have before me an impression of Cardinal 
Wolsey's seal when Archdeacon of Northampton. 
It is not heraldic. The inscription is : " Sigil- 
lum . ThomsB . Wolsey . S.T.P. . Archidiconi . 
Northampton. 5 ' It is from the collection of the 
late Sir H. Ellis, and at the service of the Arch- 
deacon of Oakham. JOHN HIRST, Jun. 

Dobcross. 

EPISCOPAL ADDRESSES AT CONFIRMATION (5 th 
S. iv. 249, 374, 390, 417, 430, 474, 492.) Some 
English Churchmen may be interested to know 
that Archbishop Whately, who came to Dublin in 
1831, immediately began the practice of addressing 
the young people extempore before administering 
the rite. He always continued to do so, and also 
insisted that the catechumens should join in the 
Holy Communion immediately after on the same 
day. This was by some thought objectionable, 
and was found practically inconvenient by all at 
least in the city churches, where the numbers 
were usually very great. His Grace always signed 
the tickets presented at the rails, and had them 
returned with a request that they should be pre- 
served, and attached inside the covers of the Bibles 
or Prayer Books as remembrancers of the first 
communion. S T P 

ANCIENT IRISH CROSSES (5* S. iv. 349, 473.) 
What a pity it is that words are used so often 
m a non-natural sense ! " Runic " means bearing 
Mumc letters, but it is often unhappily employed 
as I suppose by GREYSTEIL, for bearing snake or- 
naments or other winding or interlaced decorations. 
A o really Runic cross exists in Ireland. The only 



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object as yet found in that country bearing Eunes 
is a fragment of a sword-belt, dug up at GJ-reen- 
mount, in Loutk. For its discovery we have to 
thank the zeal of Major-Gen. J. H. Lefroy, now 
Governor of the Bermudas (see Journal of the 
Arch. Institute, London, 1870, and Journ. of the 
Roy. Hist, and Archceol. Assoc. of Ireland, April, 
1871, pp. 471-502). Perhaps GREYSTEIL may 
have been thinking of the Isle of Man, which has 
many Runic crosses, &c. GEORGE STEPHENS. 
Ckeapinghaven, Denmark. 

CHARLES CLARK OF TOTHAM, ESSEX (5 th S. 
iv. 464, 521.) For reference to his publications 
see the Handbook of Fictitious Names, pp. 29, 44, 
107, and 197. I hope that the personal appli- 
cation will be more successful than in my own 
case, but I doubt it. The modesty of authors 
who print for publicity ? is unconquerable. 

OLPHAR HAMST. 

38, Doughty Street, W.C. 

CLAUDE AMYAND (5 th S. iv. 348, 397, 477.) 
As it is always desirable to have accuracy enforced 
in the pages of " N. & Q.," may I be allowed to 
state that I believe one or two errors have crept 
into my article at the last named reference, and for 
their correction I am indebted to a friendly letter 
received on the subject ? The writer, an old con- 
tributor to your columns, mentions that Sir 
Claudius Amyand, the eminent surgeon, had three 
sons George, Claude, and Thomas. George, the 
eldest son, was created a baronet, died in 1766, 
and was succeeded by his son, who married Miss 
Oornewall, and took her family name ; Claude, 
the second son, as he is distinctly called both in 
the election into college at* Westminster in 1732 
and to Oxford in 1736, seems after his father's 
death to have been called Claudius, and died issue- 
less in 1774 ; Thomas, the third son, was Rector 
of Hambledon and Fawley, married Frances Ryder, 
and left only three daughters. It will easily be 
seen from the above statement how I ran into the 
error of supposing that there were two brothers, 
one named Claude and the other Claudius Amyand. 
But why the alteration of the Christian name was 
made, or what reason could justify the change, is 
not so apparent. JOHN PICKFORD, MJL 

Newbourne Rectory, Woodbridge. 

Alumni Westmonasterienses is wrong in styling 
the son as the second son of Sir Claudius Amyand. 
His father never was a baronet. The baronetcy 
was not created until 1764, and his father died in 
1740. He had only three sons 1, George, 
created a baronet ; 2, Claudius, the person asked 
about, who married in 1761 ; 3, Thomas, a clergy- 
manand three daughters. 

CHARLES HAWKINS. 

* Alumni Westmonasterienses, edition 1852, pp. 304 and 
31o. 



LE NEVE'S " FASTI " (5 th S. iv. 475, 492.) I 
think your correspondents' remarks on Sir Thomas 
Duffus Hardy's edition of the Fasti Ecclesicz 
Anylicance very unfair. It is a work I am in the 
habit of. constantly using, and, after very frequently 
testing the statements made therein, I have come 
to the conclusion that it is one of the most accu- 
rate books I have ever used. Of course, there are 
errors in it. Does any one who has had experi- 
ence in compilation think it possible that such a 
book could be so made as to be free from mistakes ? 
The wonder to me is that they are so very few. 
EDWARD PEACOCK. 

Bottesford Manor, Brigg. 

HERALDIC (5 th S. iv. 388, 436.) The subject is 
treated, and appropriately illustrated, in Mr. 
Boutell's English Heraldry, London, 1867, p. 173. 

J. MANUEL. 

Newcastle-upon-Tyne. 



(5 th S. iv. 443, 494.) I cannot agree with 
MR. TEW that Jelf's Greek Grammar or Liddell 
and Scott's Lexicon contains a satisfactory account 
of the adverb ?}'5??. If he reads the article on this 
word in the former, he will find a vague uncer- 
tainty running through the whole explanation ; 
and, in the latter, no general root-meaning of the 
word is attempted. As yet, therefore, I still 
adhere to iny original statement. But it is also 
plain, from the nature of the case, that the accounts 
given of this word have not been satisfactory. Else 
how would MR, TEW explain the fact that my first 
quotation was so wrongly translated by the famous 
Cambridge scholar, and met with such general 
approbation? Liddell and Scott's Lexicon and 
Jelf's Greek Grammar were even then in the hands 
of the public. 

Since the appearance of our article in " N. & Q." 
I have had a letter from Prof. Blackie, of Edin- 
burgh, in which he accepts our explanation as 
correct, implying, at the same time, that he had 
been unable up to that time to find any adequate 
solution of the word. And yet I should think 
that Prof. Blackie possesses copies both of Liddell 
and Scott's Lexicon and of Jelf's Greek Grammar. 

He also further illustrated our view from the 
etymology of the word, supposing it to be an 
emphatic form of 8?), just as y ///>)v is an emphatic 
form of pf\v. Hence, he very truly remarks, rfit] 
must imply consummation or culmination. 

I should hardly have troubled to make this 
reply had it not been that I wish to enter my 
protest against the deductive spirit with which 
grammars and lexicons are generally so deeply 
imbued ; a spirit which is so contrary to this 
inductive age. Roby's Latin Grammar is a re- 
markable exception ; but as yet no Greek grammar 
of corresponding excellence has appeared. 

DUNELMENSIS. 



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[5 th S. V. JAN. 1, 76. 



"TEETOTAL" (5 th S. iv. 429.) I have heard 
this word and "teetotally" used by Lancashire 
people before the days of the Temperance move- 
ment. At this distance of time, I remember per- 
sons who habitually used these words, and the 
prefix seemed to me to be intended to add force to 
" total " and " totally." ELLCEE. 

Craven. 

I am sure that I used to hear this, as a kind of 
intensification of " total," before it was applied to 
abstinence from strong drink. But I saw, about 
forty years ago, a copper medal, halfpenny size, 
bearing the " image and superscription " of a cer- 
tain workman (whose name I forget), with the 
addition, " inventor of the word teetotal." It was 
?t ruck, I believe, at Birmingham. S. T. P. 

WILLIAM, THIRD EARL OF PEMBROKE, OF THE 
HERBERT FAMILY (5 th S. iv. 487.) I am sorry 
that I cannot give TYRO the date of marriage for 
which he asks, but I can supply him with the dates 
of death of this Earl's two wives, and perhaps these 
may assist him in his inquiries. 

Anne Parr, first wife, died at Baynard's Castle, 
Feb. 20, 1552, and was buried in St. Paul's 
Cathedral. 

Anne Talbot, second wife, died May 15, 1576 
(surviving her husband), and was buried in Salis- 
bury Cathedral. HERMENTRUDE. 



NOTES ON BOOKS, &c. 

The Life of Jonathan Swift. By John Forster. 

Vol. I. 1667-1711. (John Murray.) 
THE great biography of this season, 1875-1876, is, 
undoubtedly, Swift's life by Mr. Forster. No 
book of the same class has been so impatiently 
waited for, or has been so long stimulating ex- 
pectation. At length it is in the hands of the 
public, and they will UD questionably find that they 
have lost nothing by having been kept waiting. 
Ihe readers of " X. & Q. need not to be told how 
great is the curiosity with regard to Swift, his 
sayings, his doings, his thoughts, and his designs. 
Our General Indexes bear witness to this fact in 
their numerous entries under the word " Swift " ; 
and this only reflects a wider general curiosity on 
the part of the public to be more closely and ac- 
curately acquainted with a great man who has 

tiered by misrepresentation, whose errors have 
been exaggerated, and whose virtues have been 
denied. Mr. Forster's biography (taking the first 
volume as a guarantee for the two that are to fol- 
low) will gratify the curiosity to which we have 

Uuded ; or, rather than curiosity, we should 
perhaps, say sympathy, for there has never been 
wanting sympathy for the Dean, even on the side 



of those who are his adversaries in reference to 
social and political matters. The reason thereof 
is to be found in the circumstance that, in the 
light of transcendent ability, the human failings 
of the man disappear ; just as with the man who 
is found worthy of being acknowledged as a sub- 
limely inspired poet, under the touch of divine 
inspiration, the shortcomings of his humanity are 
matters with which we no longer concern ourselves. 
It may be that Mr. Forster has a too highly heaped 
measure of affection for his hero, as is the case 
with many biographers ; but the volumes to come 
will show if he had not warrant sufficient for the 
love which abounds in this first instalment. It 
must be confessed, too, that Mr. Forster has all 
the threads of a complicated story so well in hand, 
and such a grasp of his important subject, as to 
render gainsaying of the testimony he adduces in 
favour of his illustrious client a very difficult matter 
indeed. It is impossible to conceive a story more 
carefully, elaboratety, and minutely worked out, as 
far as this first volume carries it. The splendid 
portrait, which serves as a noble frontispiece, is 
from the original picture by Jervas ; and it will 
give a favourable opinion of the powers of the 
Irish artist, who also painted the portraits of Pope 
and Addison, to those who have been prejudiced 
against him by the malice of critics and the sar- 
casm of Kneller. From this portrait, to the last 
page of the volume, the interest is unflaggingly 
sustained. Every chapter adds something to our 
previously garnered knowledge, or sweeps away 
some long entertained error. Of the seventy-eight 
years of Swift's life, this volume narrates the 
struggles, joys, and sorrows of the first forty-four. 
Thus the greater portion is told, but by far the 
more romantic portion awaits the telling. 

English History for the Use of Public Schools. By 
Rev. J. Franck Bright, M. A., Fellow of Uni- 
versity College, and Historical Lecturer in 
Balliol, New, and University Colleges, Oxford ; 
late Master of the Modern School in Marl- 
borough College. Period I. Mediaeval Monarchy. 
(Eivingtons.) 

MR. BRIGHT, who followed his old head-master 
from Maryborough to Oxford, and has there be- 
come a very popular historical lecturer, writes 
directly for our old friends, " the boys/' with whose 
requirements he is necessarily well acquainted. It 
is, of course, impossible to avoid making some 
comparison between his book and Mr. Green's, 
though both the scope of the two authors, and 
their mode of treating their subject, differ con- 
siderably. Mr. Green, as has been already pointed 
out in these columns, professes to write, not a 
School History of England, but a History of the 
English People. Mr. Bright, at the request of 
an assembly of Public School masters, undertook 
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teaching," to supply a want felt by those who 
were charged with such teaching. 

The plan adopted by Mr. Bright has been to 
- divide his History into distinct periods, which are 
to be issued in separate volumes ; and, if we 
understand the scheme aright, each period is to be 
complete in itself, and purchasable separately. 
The Mediaeval period, extending from the depar- 
ture of the Romans to Bosworth Field, is now be- 
fore us ; and in the hands of a master who knows 
the history of the Middle Ages it will be a useful 
text-book. The narrative is clear and concise, 
and illustrated by useful plans and maps. We 
are not quite sure that we fully catch the meaning 
of certain patches of gamboge which are distri- 
buted over a " Map of England and Wales, 1066- 
1485," though, from their prevailing largely in 
Devon and Cornwall, and Wales, we assume they 
are intended to hint at the predominance of the 
Celtic element in the population of the districts 
so coloured. But it would have been better to 
have explained this in a note. We are sorry to 
observe, on Mr. Bright's part, an occasional care- 
less use of modern terminology, which seems to 
indicate that he has not thoroughly grasped the 
key notes of mediaeval history. He seems sur- 
prised at the frequency of appeals to the judgment 
of the Papal See as a court of international arbitra- 
tion, which is its constant, and often valuable, 
political aspect throughout the Middle Ages ; and 
he attributes the Emperor Sigisnmnd's success in 
re-establishing "the obsolete supremacy of the 
head of the Roman Empire " to the " activity and 
success with which he collected a general council 
of the Church at Constance," forgetting that with- 
out his position as "Rex Romanorum " his " activity" 
would have been of little avail. But Mr. Bright's 
work is not yet finished, and we shall look forward 
with interest to his next voluine. 



The Types of Genesis. Briefly considered as Revealing 
the Development of Human Nature. By Andrew 
Jukes. Third Edition. (Longmans & Co.) 
HUMAN nature is, indeed, developed in this volume. The 
author of The Law of the Offerings in Leviticus is far 
from disappointing his readers. Those acquainted with 
that work will find ita writer here reproducing his for- 
mer ability and originality of thought. A mystic vein, 
it is intended, shall be found running throughout this 
valuable mine ; but the ore is sometimes, it must be 
feared, too adhesive to the grit of fancy. Conceding the 
darkness on the natural man, and that the things of the 
spirit cannot be always received, there still remain 
some strong traces of imagination. In places a moral, 
good in itself and appropriate, is forced from the sacred 
text. " The Fathers," too, hardly carry off, in the Pre- 
face, the credit due to them ; for, if their own ideas and 
the lessons directly derived from them were omitted in 
another edition, the volume would far from reach its 
present 420 pages. The merits, however, greatly out- 
weigh the demerits. The line of thought and allegorical 
teaching traced in the descent of Adam, represented by 
ain and Seth, show much careful study, and open a 



wide field of meditation. No one can read the book 
without feeling grateful for being so much instructed, 
not only in the types of Genesis, but in many collateral 
portions of Scripture. 



AUTHORS AND QUOTATIONS WANTED. 
" The glowing portraits fresh from life that bring 
Home to the heart the truths from whence they 
spring," &c. 

YRAM. 
" Near, so very near to God, 

Nearer I cannot be ; 
For in the person of his Son 
I am as near as he," &c. 

LAYCAUJIA. 

" The spring returns ; but not to me return 
The vernal joys my better years have known." 

D. A. D. 
" Oh that the armies indeed were arrayed, oh, joy of the 

onset ! 
Sound, thou trumpet of God ! come forth, great cause, 

to array us ! 

King and Leader, appear ! thy soldiers sorrowing seek 
thee." 

S. M. 
" Deep sighted in intelligences, 

Ideas, atoms, influences." 
" Now voices over voices rise, 
While each to be the learned'st vies ; 
Not jumbling particles of matter 
In chaos e'er made such a clatter ; 
And Midas now concludes his speeches 

With asses' ears and ." 

S. D. L. 
" Rise, Jupiter, and snuff the moon." 

T. J. 

" Hard is the seaboy's fate, 

His opening hours denied the shelter of paternal 
bowers," &c. 

A CONSTANT SUBSCRIBER. 
" Sitting .... by the poisoned springs of life, 
Waiting for the morrow which shall free us from the 
strife." 

T. W. C. 

" Exigo itaque a me, non ut optimis par sim, sed ut 
malis melior." 

J. H. 
Stirling. 

" If Heaven be pleased when sinners cease to sin, 
If Hell be pleased when sinners enter in, 
If Earth be pleased whene'er she lose a knave, 
Then all are pleased since Bonner 's in his grave." 

A. C. O. 

" Children we are all 
Of one great Father, in whatever clime 
His Providence hath cast the seed of life, 
All tongues, all colours ! Neither after death 
Shall we be sorted into languages." 

" Beautiful islands ! where the green 
Which nature wears was never seen 
'Neath zone of Europe ; where the hue 
Of sea and heaven is such a blue 
As England dreams not." 

" And every hedge and copse is bright 
With the quick firefly's playful light, 
Like thousands of the sparkling gems 
Which blaze on Eastern diadems." 

P. D. S. 



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[5 th S. V. JAN. 1,76. 



" Can the earth where the harrow is driven 

The sheaf of the furrow foresee 1 
Or thou guess the harvest for heaven 

Where iron has entered in thee '? ' 

These lines were quoted by the late Lord Lytton in his 
paper on The Influence of Love upon, Literature and Real 
Life. ANON ' 

Dticc3 to Caro*p0nflen. 

ON all communications should be written the name and 
address of the sender, not necessarily for publication, but 
as a guarantee of good faith. 

" AILEEN ABOON " : " ROBIN ADAIR." On this matter 
the reply to J. T.'s query from Pocklington is that the 
air, called by both names, is said to have been composed, 
with the original words, by an Irish knight, O'Daly, 
who carried oil' " Ellen the fair " in much the same 
style as Loclrinvar did Aw fair Ellen of Netherby Hall. 
To the old Irish air several sets of words have been 
written, among them Moore's " Erin, the tear and the smile 
in thine eyes." But the name llobin Adair was one of 
an Irish firm of wine-merchants Aldridge, Adair, & 
Butler. Air. Adair (an ancestor, it is said, of Viscount 
Molesworth) went to Foxhall (Connaught) to collect 
money long due. All that he got was a song from his 
host, to the air of " Aileen Aroon," part of which was to 
this effect : 

" Welcome to Foxhall, sweet llobin Adair, 
Welcome, &c. 
How does Tom Butler do ' 
And Jemmy Aldridge, too? 
Why didn't they come with you? 

llobin Adair ! " 

The words became known, and were universally sung, 
and when fresh words to the old air were written for 
Brah am to sing, the poetical name of the Irish wine- 
merchant was retained, and something more than half a 
century ago the highways were harmonious with the 
lackadaisical complaining of 

" What 's this dull town to me ? 

llobin Adair ! 
What should I wish to see ? 

Robin Adair ! " 

FUANCESCA asks for information about Temple Emmet 
not contained in the following works, viz., Madden's Lives 
and Times of the United Irishmen; Graltan's Life, by his 
son; Curran and his Contemporaries, lay Charles Phil- 
lips ; and The Imperial Dictionary of Universal fiioyra- 
t>hy. FRANCESCA adds : " T. Emmet's life, though very 
short, was so brilliant that it seems possible and probable 
that much information regarding him still exists unpub- 
lished." 

WILL MR. F. G. STEFHKKS, who in " X. k Q.," Oct. 16, 
187f>, answered a question of EBOKACUJI, say whether 
(and if iro, when) a painting of the same artist, Henry 
Thompson " Three Children and a Live Robin" was 
exhibited'.' j\ jj 

U. E- There is a well-condensed account of the Lin- 
colnshire hero, Captain John Smith, the founder of 
Virginia, in Cates'.s Dictionary of General Biocjraphy. 
Born in 1579, he died in 1031. His services in Hungary 
are referred to in the above account. 

F. P. B. To threaten to De-Wit a person was, in 
seventeenth century slang, to threaten to treat him as 
the great John l)e Wit and his brother Cornelius were 
treated by a Dutch mob in 1072, by which mob they 
were barbarously murdered. 

W. P. P.- See Pope's translation of the Odyssev, xv. 
bd ; also his Second Satire, bk. ii. line 100. For answer 



to the second query, see Shakspeare's First Part of 
Henry VI. , Act ii. sc. 4. 

TEMPLAR asks to be referred to an article on Chap- 
books that appeared some years ago in one of the chief 
reviews. 

W. T. M. Plutarch's description was referred to by 
our lamented correspondent CHITTELDBOOG in "N. & Q.," 
4 th S. vi. 16. 

V. S. T. Both ways ; but the spelling followed by the 
Times is the more old-fashioned. 

YERA (" The Keys of Peter ") is requested to forward 
her name and address. 

T. F. had better send us the verses, if he possesses 
a copy. 

W. G. D. FLETCHER. We will forward a prepaid 
letter. 

J. N. B. The paper named has not reached "N. & Q/ 

NOTICE. 

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Editor of 'Notes and Queries'" Advertisements and 
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LOXDOX, SATURDAY, JA ATARI' 8, 1876. 



CONTENTS. NO 106. 

NOTES: Earl Stanhope and Lord Macaulay's "Epitaph on 
a Jacobite," 21 The Catacombs at Rome and Elsewhere, 22 
A List of English Words Used by French Writers, and 
Missing in Littre's Dictiannairc, 23 Parallel Passages 
Folk- Lore American Episcopal Consecrations, 24-Christ- 
mas Day with Mr Fepys Palace of the Earls of Mercia at 
Kiugshury Shakspeare's Arms " Pronunciation in England 
in 1720," 25 " Js there anything new under the sun?" 
Swiutons of Swinton -Straw Necklaces Death of King 
Charles II., 26 "Centenary," 27. 

QUERIES : Charterhouse Epitaph in Cashel Cathedral, 27 
Bamhorou<,'h Castle and the De Bradefordes Samuel 
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Scotia, created 1707, 28 Old Irish History Portrait of Gains- 
borough, in Miniature Belfry Rules John Holland Shelley 
Wilkinson Baronetcy Is the Isle of Bardseyin Carnarvon- 
shire or Pembrokeshire? Cabinet Council, 29. 

REPLIES: Gray's "Elegy," 29-Jews in Ireland, 30 "Sca- 
tologica," 31 Musical Revenge : " Hudibras " " Orchard," 
the Translator of Rabelais, 32 "God's Acre "-The Trade 
of Tanning, 33 " Abarca "Charles Wilmot Serres, a 
"Suppressed Prince" "Hard Lines " Crawley and Bur- 
nell Families, 34 A Punning Book - Plate Dermitius 
O'Meara Bell- Ringers' Literature Francis Douglas 
"Wilter," 35 Portrait of Henry Clarke, LL.D.-Mrs. 
Pritchard John of Gaunt's Coat, 36 Poets the Masters 
of Language -Earldom of Wigtoun : Gyll and Flemyng 
Families Women's Rights Author Wanted W hipping 
Dogs out of Church, 37 Dean Swift The Princess 
Sobieski, 1719 The Child of Hale Sir Richard Phillips 
The Vicar of Savoy "There was an ape" Walking on 
the Water M'Kenzie Family, 33-" A nook and half yard 
of laud " " Penny " or " Peny " " Civiers "Metal Tobacco 
Pipes, 39. 

Notes on Books, &c. 



EARL STANHOPE AND LORD MACAULAY'S 
"EPITAPH ON A JACOBITE." 

By the death of Lord Stanhope the literary 
world has lost one of its brightest ornaments, and 
literary men one of their best friends. Few who 
knew him personally, or had dealings with him, 
but can remember some genial or kindly trait. 
One of his characteristics was the promptitude 
with which he answered correspondents even on 
trivial subjects. Having had occasion to corre- 
spond with him officially and otherwise, I speak on 
this point from experience. One instance occurs 
to me that I think may be worth a note in 
"N. &Q." 

On reading his lordship's account of the origin 
and progress of Sunday schools, in The History of 
England from the Peace of Utrecht to the Peace of 
Versailles, vol. vii. pp. 333-4 (5th ed., 1858), 1 
ventured, on December 17, 1869, to send him a 
copy of the Churchman's Shilling Magazine for 
August, 1868, containing an article of my own 
entitled "Who was the Founder of Sunday 
Schools 1 " and, by return of post, I received a 
note and enclosure, of which the following are 
copies : 

"Chevening, Dec. 18 [1869]. 

" Dear Sir, I return to you many thanks for your 
letter and article. 

" You have certainly succeeded in showing that the 



Rev. Mr. Stock had at least a very prominent share, if 
not the principal, in the foundation of Sunday Schools. 

" Perhaps in return the accompanying very beautiful 
lines may not be unwelcome to you. Since Lord Mac- 
aulay'a death they have been published with some other 
things, but not quite accurately. 

" I remain, dear sir, 

" Your very obedient servant, 

" STANHOPE. 
"S. R. Townshend Mayer, Esq., F.R.S.L." 

(Copy of enclosure printed on half a sheet of 
note paper.) 

"EPITAPH ON A FOLLOWER OP THE STUARTS, 
Who was born in Durham 
And buried at Florence. 

(As written out and presented to me by the author at 
a meeting of the Trustees of the British Museum, 
May 8th, 1847. MAHON.) 

To my true King I offered, pure from stain, 
Courage and faith ; vain faith, and courage vain. 
For him I threw lands, honours, wealth, away, 
And one sweet hope, which was more prized than they. 
For him I languished in an alien clime, 
Grey-haired with sorrow in my manhood's prime ; 
Heard on Lavernia ScargilFs whispering trees, 
And pined by Arno for my lovelier Tees ; 
Beheld each night my home in fevered sleep, 
Each morning started from the dream to weep ; 
Till God, who saw me tried too sorely, gave 
The resting place I asked, an early grave. 
Oh ! thou whom chance leads to this nameless stone, 
From the proud country which was once mine own, 
By those white cliffs I never more must see, 
By that dear language which I spake like thee, 
Forget all feuds, and shed one English tear 
O'er English dust. A broken heart lies here. 

T. B. MACAULAY." 

The lines are to be found in The Miscellaneous 
Writings of Lord Macaulay, vol. ii. p. 429 (Long- 
mans, 1860), but, as Lord Stanhope says in his 
note to me, they are given " not quite accurately." 
None of the obituary notices of Lord Stanhope 
that I have seen in the daily papers mentions two 
little volumes that I believe he had a great affec- 
tion for Miscellanies, first and second series 
(Murray, 1863 and 1872). The first series passed 
into a second edition, which is not remarkable, 
seeing that it comprised several important original 
papers, such as some letters of Sir Robert Peel on 
the House of Lords and Sir Kobert Walpole ; Me- 
moranda by the Duke of Wellington on Marl- 
borough and the Retreat from Moscow ; Lord 
Macaulay's Valentine (1851) to the present Coun- 
tess of Beauchamp ; the origin of the Whig Co- 
lours, blue and buff, &c. ; whilst the second and 
larger selection contains a curious Italian Memoir 
by Lady Mary Wortley Montagu ; Correspondence 
with Mr. Ticknor on the Case of Major Andre ; 
Correspondence of Mr. Pitt and Earl Temple ; 
Canning's Account of his first interview with Mr. 
Pitt ; Correspondence with Hallam, M. d$ Sis- 
mondi, Prince Louis Napoleon (Napoleon III.) 7 
Lord Macaulay, &c. 

Admirers of the charming simplicity of Lord 
Stanhope's epistolary style, and all who knaw the 



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[5 th S. V. JAN. 8, 76. 



intense interest he took in historical and literary 
matters, feel convinced that a fund of valuable 
research and original thought lies scattered through 
his letters, and it is to be hoped that before long 
it will see the light under the editorship of his son 
and heir, the present earl. 

S. R. TOWNSHEND MATER. 
Richmond, Surrey. 



THE CATACOMBS AT ROME AND ELSEWHERE 

The catacombs at Rome have been hitherto 
viewed with great interest, principally on religious 
grounds ; but it is believed that, for the other 
reasons now to be assigned, they have not been 
viewed with nearly so much interest as they are 
entitled to be. And this greatly increased interest 
would not apply to the catacombs at Rome, or 
elsewhere in Italy, alone, but wherever they exist. 
As, however, the historical or positive proof, now to 
be founded upon, exists, if not altogether in con- 
nexion with the Italian catacombs, at least to a 
much greater extent than in connexion with those 
of any other country, our attention will first be 
more particularly directed to those of Italy. 

The first question which I would then ask is this : 
Are not the Italian catacombs ancient human 
dwellings, which dwellings, in point of fact, had 
formed what may be termed subterranean towns ? 
The reasons shall now be given for answering this 
question in the affirmative. 

There anciently lived in Italy a people who 
were known by the name of the Cimmerii. It 
need scarcely be said that the C in Cimmerii 
would be pronounced hard at the time referred to. 
Now it is matter of positive history that the Cim- 
merii dwelt " in subterraneis domiciles." Further, 
the Cimmerii were represented by the Latin poets 
as dwelling in darkness. " Cimmerian darkness " 
was anciently proverbial. This darkness has 
greatly puzzled commentators ; but, if it be viewed 
in connexion with the Cimmerians dwelling in 
what are now termed catacombs, the difficulty 
vanishes, and the explanation is completely and 
thoroughly satisfactory. 

Caves of natural formation were, it is well 
known, the abodes of the human race in ancient 
times, and, in certain localities, they are still 
used for that purpose. But natural caves were 
limited in number, and were confined to particular 
localities. When, therefore, mankind increased in 
these localities, if they were still to dwell in caves, 
these had to be formed artificially under the ground 
or otherwise. This implied the careful selection 
oi proper places for the formation of these cave or 
underground dwellings. And these underground 
dwellings had, in the course of time, and under 
favourable circumstances, resulted in the formation 
of underground towns, the remains of which now 
form the catacombs of Rome, Paris, and elsewhere 



Accustomed as we are to dwellings above 
ground, we are scarcely prepared to do justice to 
the merits of underground dwellings. For one 
important thing, their temperature would be very 
uniform and equal, a condition of essential im- 
portance in the preservation of health and comfort, 
and in the restoration of health. It is now, it is 
understood, a fixed point in medical practice that 
it is chiefly a uniform, and not so much a high, 
temperature that is most beneficial for consump- 
tive and other delicate patients. Underground 
sanitaria, judiciously used, might be of advantage 
to such patients, even in the present day. Under- 
ground dwellings, properly constructed for the 
purpose, would also be easily defended against 
hostile attacks in very ancient times, a matter of 
transcendent importance. It will be kept in view 
that, in the present day, a very large part of our 
population live, in point of fact, much underground, 
I refer to our miners, and that, it is believed, 
under far more unfavourable circumstances than 
the ancient Cimmerii in their underground habi- 
tations. The Cimmerii would, of course, walk 
about and labour on the surface of the earth during 
the day. 

It may now be here mentioned that it is stated 
that catacombs are formed generally in a rock 
which is soft and easily excavated, such as tufa, 
and that they are to be found in almost every 
country where such rocks exist. Catacombs are 
to be found not only in Italy and France, but in 
Greece, Asia Minor, Syria, Egypt, Persia, and in 
other countries ; and they have also been found 
in Peru and other places in South America. It is 
somewhat singular, however, that no catacombs 
have been found in the United Kingdom, at least 
so far as I am aware, although cave and under- 
ground dwellings are found to have existed to a 
great extent. 

It is not disputed that the catacombs were 
ultimately used as the abodes of the dead. All I 
now maintain is that originally they were used as 
tfie abodes of the living. And, in confirmation of 
:he views now submitted, I would quote what is 
stated in Chambers's Cyclopedia regarding the 
ruins the deeply interesting ruins of the city of 
Petra, in ancient Idumea. It is there stated 
that 

"All along the face of the rocky wall [forming the 
ancient town] are rows of cave tombs hewn out of the 
solid stone, and ornamented with fa9ades. Originally 
;hey were probably dwellings of the living, not of the 
dead, a supposition justified by an examination of the 
'nterior; but when the Nabatheans built the city proper, 
n the little basin of the hills, they were, in all likelihood, 
ibandoned, and then set apart as" the family sepulchres 
>f those who had formerly been dwellers in the clefts of 
he rocks." 

And so, in like manner, when the Cimmerii, 
who inhabited the catacombs, ultimately became 
dwellers on the surface of the earth, the catacombs 



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had been, in the course of time, converted into 
necropolises. 

I would submit that " comb," the third syllable 
of catacomb, is connected with, being derived from 
the first syllable of, the name of the Cimmerii ; 
such first syllable being found in various forms 
The Cimmerii are no doubt to be regarded as the 
children of Gomer, the son of Japheth, mentioned 
in Genesis x. 2. Our Welsh countrymen still 
call themselves the Cymry or Cumry, that is, the 
Cimmerii. The county of Cumberland takes its 
name from the same origin. The Cimbri (c=k), 
who figure so largely in Roman history, were 
the same race. The race had other names. The 
British and other European nations are, to a 
large extent, their descendants ; but the consi- 
deration of these and other interesting points 
must be deferred. HENRY KILGOUR. 



A LIST OF ENGLISH WORDS USED BY FRENCH 
WRITERS, AND MISSING IN. LITTRE'S DIC- 
TION NAIRE. 

Aero-pedestrian. "Oberon [in a picture by Mr. 
Paton] rappelle par son costume et sa beaute greco- 
anglaise cea aero-pedestrians dont on a pu admirer dans 
les cirques le maillot 4 paillettes, le diademe antique et 
1'air gentleman." Th. Gautier, Les Beaux-Arts en 
Europe, vol. i. vi. 58. Paris, M. Levy Freres, 1857. 

Alabama. " N'etaient-ils pas assures [the Americans, 
in the case of a war against England] egalement de 
frapper de mort, par leurs croiseurs, par leurs corsaires, 
par leurs aiabamas, le commerce maritime de 1'Angle- 
terre 1 " T. Aube, L'Avenir de la Marine Franqaise, i. ; 
Rev. des Deux Mondes, l r Juillet, 1874, p. 183. 

Ancon. "Dans le troupeau de cette ferme [Seth 
Wright, 1791], il naquit un asjneau qui, sans cause 
connue, avait le corps plus long que tous Jes divers types 
de l'epece ovine; de plus ses jambes etaient tres-courtes 
et celles de devant crocbues. Sa singularite le fit en- 
tourer de soins particuliers, et ce seul individu anormal 
devint la souche de la race loutre, o~a.ancon des Anglais." 
Raveret-Wattel, Les Trois Regnes de la Nature, 
recueil public sous la direction du Dr. J. C. Chenu, 
Pails, 1865, p. 355. 

At will." Edmund Spenser et Sir John Davis font de 
la condition miserable des tenanciers pressure's par les 
land-lords un tableau qui rappelle exactement la situa- 
tion et les griefs des petits cultivateurs at will de 1'Ir- 
lande actuelle." hi. de Laveleye, Les Lois des Brehons, 
ii. ; Revue des Deux Mondes, 15 Avril, 1875, p. 803. 

Baby. " Les babies britanniques ont des teints de 
creme et de fraise." Th. Gautier, Les Beaux-Arts en 
Europe, vol. i. v. 44. 

Bagno. "Je me rendis, sans differer, au lieu de 
1'assignation, qui etoit le bagno de Chancery-lane." 
L'Abbe Prevost, Mem. et Avent. d'un Homme de Oualite, 
t. ii. 1. x. 265. Paris, Leblanc, 1810. 

This is, I think, the English bagnio, Italian 
bagrw, Spanish bano, French bain. 

Bar. " II n'y a pas [in New York] de cafes comme en 
France ; mais les bars, les buvettes, sont partout." 
L. Simonin, Les Enfans des Rues a New York, ii. ; Rev. 
des Deux Mondes, l r Janvier, 1875, p. 69. 

Barnum. " Une sorte de Barnum,...un de ces ex- 



ploiteurs de scandale si communs aux Etats-Unis." Th. 
Bentzon, L'Age Dore en Amerique, iii. ; Rev. des Deux 
Mondes, 15 Mars, 1875, p. 339. 

Beagle. " II nous est encore venu d'Angleterre une 
autre espece de chiena : ce sont les beagles." Jos. La 
Vallee, La Chaste a Courre, ii. 60. Paris, 'L. Hachette et 
C i9 , 1859. 

Blackboot. " Les enfans qui font ce metier peu fati- 
gant [bootblackin^], les blackboots, y gagnent un salaire 
raisonnable." L. Simonin, Les Enfans des Rues a New 
York, ii. 68. 

Black-mail. " Quand le maitre avait paye...son black- 
mail aux industries voisines qui avaient le droit de lui 
refuser ou des clous, ou des tubes de cuivre, ou tout 

autre element indispensable de sa production " Jules 

Simon, La Liberte, 2 me part. ch. iii. t. ii. 34. Paris, L. 
Hachette et C ie , 1859. 

Blockade-runner. " Une journee de brume, une nuit 
sombre, ce serait assez, quand bien meme les exigences 
qui forcent les navires de blocus... rester sous petite 
vitesse, ne permettraient pas aux blockade-runners de 
reussir en plein jour et devant lea croiseurs ennemis." 
T. Aube, L'Avenir de la Marine Franq., i. 182. 

Board (council). "A la tete de ce departement est 
un board de cinq commissaires." L. Simonin, Les Etab- 
liss. de Charite et de Correction a New York; Revue 
des Deux Mondes, l r Fevrier, 1875, p. 636. 

Boulder clay. " En Angleterre, on a trouve dans- 
plusieurs localites des silex tailles accompagnes d'osse- 
mens de grands pachydermes reposant les uns et les 
autres immediatement aur le terrain glaciaire ancien till 
ou boulder clay." Ch. Martins, Recherches sur les 
Glaciers, ii. : Revue des Deux Mondes, 15 Avril, 1875, 
p. 860. 

Box. " Un box ou bureau ferme [in tbe safe-deposit 
banks at New York]." L. Simonin, New York et la 
Societe Americaine, i.; Rev. des Deux Mondes, l r De- 
cembre, 1874, p. 666. 

In the Supplement Littre gives only " box, stalle 
d'ecurie ou compartiment de wagon pour un cheval 
seul." 

Boy. " Les jeunes boys de New York." L. Simonin, 
New ^York et la Societe Americ., i. 665." Chaque boy a 
son lit tout monte." L. Simonin, Les Enfans des Rues t 
iii. 76. 

Braidisme (the physician James Braid). "M. J. P. 
Philips, ajoutant aux idees de J. Braid les siennea 
propres, a reuni...dans son Cours Theorique et Pratique 
de Braidisme, imprime en 1860, dea faits, qui tout rat- 
taches qu'ila soient a des hypotheses fort contestables> 
n'en offrent pas moina une extreme importance." L. F. 
Alfred Maury, La Magie et I'Astrologie, 2 me part. iv. 
434. Paris, Didier et C ie , 1864. 

Brehon (hist.). "Les brehons, qui ont donne leurnom 
& ces recueila de lois [the Brehon Laws], offrent la plus 
grande ressemblance avec les druides de la Gaule tela 
que Cesar nous les fait connaitre." E. de Laveleye r 
Les Lois des Brehons, 787. 

Brownie. " En Ecosse et en Irlande, ce sont les Elfs, 
les Brownies, les Cluricannes, et bien d'autres genies, 
heritiers des anciens dieux celtes, qui, dans les tradi- 
tions populaires, paraissent sur le premier plan." L. F. 
Alfred Maury, La Magie et VAstroL, l' re part. vii. 189. 

Buggy. " Elles vont...cavalcader au Parc-Central, 
amazones infatigables, ou y courir follement dans un 
buggy qu'elles conduisent elles-mems. ?> L. Simonin, 
New York et la Soc. Americ., iv. 685. 

Littre" has boghei, and the abbreviation boc. I 



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[5" S. V. JAN. 8, 76. 



have met with boghey: " Le boghey fut attete en 
toute bate."-Th. Bailey- Aldrich, Prudence Pal- 
frey, viii. ; Rev. des Deux Mondes, l r Juillet, 
1874, p. 105. 

Bull-dog.-" Bull-dogs : Whasp, a M. Macdonald, et 
Bull, 2" prix, a M. Jollivet. Exposition de 1863. -Dr. 
J. C. Chenu, Les Trois Rcgnes de la Nature, 1864, p. 6b. 

See Littre', " Bouledogue." 

Bull-terrier." Bull-terriers : Tom, Fixette et Bell, a 
M. Edouard Delessert. N'ont pas ete exposes." Dr. 
J. C. Chenu, Les Trois Rcgnes, 1864, p. 37. 

Bus." Les omnibus ou stages, familierement et la- 
coniquemcnt les bus, desservent surtout 1'interminahle 
rue de Broadway [New York]." L. Simonin, New York 
etlaSoc. Americ., iii. 680. 

HENRI GAUSSERON. 
Ayr Academy. 

(To le continued.) 



PARALLEL PASSAGES. 

There is a remarkable coincidence between the 
two following passages, the one from St. Luke, the 
other from Musoeus : 

'Eyerero de ei'T<o Aeyeu' avrov ravrcL, e/rapacra 
7t>> yiT'ij tfxtiV'ijv e/< TOD o^Aou eiTrev avroj, 
MaKapia 7} Koi/Xta 7} /3ao~Tao"acra o~e, KOL /xacrroi 
ovs 6^A,aora5. Avros Se t7re, Meyowye /xa/ca- 
pioi 01 uKOi'ovres roi' Aoyov TOV Geoi>, KCU 
f/>vAao-croi'Tes cu'roV. xi. 27, 28. 
And : 



05 <re fvrevcre, i<a jto^ ? re/ce [j/iri-jp, 
r /} cr' cAc^et'cre /zaKapra-n;. 138. 
The former passage from St. Luke's Gospel is 
thus beautifully paraphrased by that truest of 
Christian poets, John Keble : 

" Bl-ssM is the womh that b;ire Him bless'd 
Tilt; hosom where His lips were press'd, 

But rather hless'd ;irc- they 
Wi.o hear His word and keep it well, 
The living homes where Christ shall dwell, 
And neve r j ass away." 

Hymn on the Annunciation. 

JOHN PICKFORD, M.A. 
Xewbourne Pvcctory, Woodbridge. 



FOLK-LORE. 

ANATOUAX FOLK-LORE. The following ouo-ht 
to be reprinted in " N. & Q." : 

'Ne;ir tlie wayside Wits a larj?e cairn of stones our 
people religiously added their quota to the heap-it was 
close to the tomb ,,f some holy man or other, and over it 
wa.s a tn-e thickly hung with fragments of rags, &c , 
votive offerings it may be." -Rev. E. J. Davis, Ana- 
(olica, Ml. 

A note adds : 

"This must be a relic of some heathen custom, for 

pure Mohammedanism does not allow such observances 

however, common enough in Egypt, and I once 

^rved the fame thing at the ruined Temple of Venus, 
at At Ha, on the Adonis river, in the Lebmon In the 
Thousand and One jf.tfhtt (Lane, vol. iii. p. 222) there is 
a very pretty anecdote connected with this custom Mr 



Lane, I believe, confesses that he can assign no reason 
or origin for it. But it seems to be a common super- 
stition amongst Muslims that, by tying or nailing a small 
piece of. their garments to a tree planted over the grave 
of some holy personage, they m-ay free themselves from 
any trouble or sickness that afflicts them." 

CORNUB. 

TOOTHACHE. It is remarkable that the New 
Zealanders should ascribe a toothache to the same 
cause as do the country people in Germany and 
the Orkney Islanders, viz., to the gnawing of a 
worm. The fact of this belief existing in the 
Orkney Isles is proved by a contributor to " N. 
& Q.," l gt S. x. 220, who gives a charm in common 
use there. A North German incantation, com- 
mencing, " Pear-tree, I complain to thee, three 
worms sting me," is quoted in Thorpe's Northern 
Mythology, vol. iii. p. 167 ; and in Shortland's 
Traditions and Superstitions of the New Zea- 
landers, pp. 108-110, we read, "The toothache, 
being supposed to be caused by a worm having 
the form of an eel, which eats for itself a hole in 
the tooth, is cured by charming out the worm." 
The following is the charm used : 
" An eel, a spiny-back, 

True indeed, indeed : true in sooth, in sooth. 

You must eat the head 

Of said spiny-back." 

Grimm, Deutsche Mythologie, p. 1109, remarks 
that the Poles call the " white people," i. e. the 
elves who cause diseases in men, " worms." 

CHARLES SWAINSON. 

Highhurst Wood. 



AMERICAN EPISCOPAL CONSECRATIONS. I 
should like to note, as I have not seen it else- 
where noted, that the Scotch thread in the Ame- 
rican Episcopate is by no means so strong as is 
generally supposed. This episcopate is usually 
spoken of as if it depended on that of Scotland 
altogether for its validity ; but the facts are these 
(I take them from Mr. Perceval's list in the Apos- 
tolical Succession) : 

1. The first . American bishop (Seabury) was 
consecrated by Scotch bishops. 

2. The three next by English bishops. 

3. The fifth (Claggett) by these four. 

4. Seabury never assisted to consecrate again. 

5. Claggett assisted to consecrate four bishops 
at different times. 

C. Of these four, two never assisted to consecrate 
at all. 

7. The other two assisted to consecrate one 
bishop each, and in one case the descent merges, 
as the consecrated bishop was one of those already 
mentioned in No. 5. 

8. Seabury's thread, therefore, is to be traced 
through only one bishop, and is of very little im- 
portance compared to the English thread ; and 
further, as there were three bishops with him at 



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NOTES AND QUERIES. 



No. 3, the consecration would have been valid with- 
out him at all. C. F. S. WARREN. M.A. 
Bexhill. 

CHRISTMAS DAY WITH MR. PEP^S. The new 
edition of Pepys's Diary contains more detailed 
notices than heretofore of the manner in which 
Mr. Pepys spent the anniversaries of the feast of 
the Nativity : 

1660. " In the morning to church, where Mr. Mills 
made a very good sermon. After that home to dinner, 
where my wife and I and my brother Tom (who this 
morning came to see my wile's new mantle put on, 
which, do please me very well), to a good shoulder of 
mutton and a chicken. After dinner to church again, 
my wife and I, where we had a dull sermon of a stranger, 
which made me sleep, and so home, and I, before and 
after supper, to my lute and Fuller's History [of the 
Church]" 

1661. " In the morning to church, where at the door 
of our pew I was fain to stay, because that the sexton 
had not opened the door. A good sermon of Mr. Mills. 
Dined at home all alone, and taking occasion from some 
fault in the meat to complain of my mayd's sluttery, my 
wife and I fell out, and I up to my chamber in a discon- 
tent. After dinner my wife comes up to me and all 
friends again, and she and I to walk upon the leads, and 
there Sir W. Pen called us, and we went to his house 
and supped with him." 

J. E. B. 

PALACE OF THE EARLS OF MERCIA AT KINGS- 
BURY. The village of Kingsbury (mentioned at 
length in Dugdale) is thirteen miles from Coventry, 
and seven from Tamworth. The " palace " is close 
to the church, and stands on the verge of a steep, 
cliff-like descent, about 200 yards from the foot of 
which flows the Tame. It is now a half-ruinous 
farmhouse, only two or three rooms being in- 
habited. A gres*t portion of the wall is still 
standing, and encloses the farmyard. Portions 
of 1 four successive buildings are visible on even 
a superficial examination the ancient Saxon 
palace, a mediaeval castle, a manor-house temp. 
Charles I. or II., and the comparatively modern 
farmhouse. We saw and explored two "dungeons" 
in the outward wall before mentioned. There nre 
the remains of two turrets at least, and the wall 
between them is about twenty feet high. There 
are also remains of passages connecting the dun- 
geons, which latter seem to have been cells in 
the base of each turret. We talked with some of 
the villagers, and learned that Kingsbury " was a 
much greater place once " ; and this did not only 
refer to the posting-days. It is said that the 
ancient kings of Mercia had their burying- 
place here, and we were shown a spot near the 
farm where once the palace gate stood. Tradi- 
tion says (as usual) that there was anciently a 
subterranean passage from the palace in this 
case, to Astley Castle. This would be, I suppose, 
much more modern than the date of the palace. 
We were also told that "noises and sights had 
been both seen and heard " in the old farmhouse. 



Our guide accounted for these by the fact that " it 
was a very old place, and there was a good many 
murders done in old times." Is anything known 
of this interesting Saxon ruin, and has it ever been 
thoroughly examined] If Leofric and Godiva 
held their court here, there must surely be some 
trace of the palace in history, and also, perhaps, 
traces of the Saxon lords of Mercia, which would 
repay a careful examination of the spot. The 
church is a woful monument of early nineteenth 
century restoration. Among other sins, of white- 
washing, &c., a school-room has been built, of 
ordinary brick, over the south transept, and here, 
I believe, are kept the monuments described by 
Dugdale, but none of which I think is older than 
the fourteenth century. Unfortunately, we did 
not know of their being there till after our visit. 
MARY A. M. HOPPTTS. 

SHAKSPEARE'S ARMS. Some time ago, a cor- 
respondent of one of your contemporaries made the 
notable discovery that Shakspeare's arms belonged 
to the class called arms parlantes. The spear, he 
admitted, might have been observed by previous 
explorers, but the correspondent of your contem- 
porary especially plumed himself upon being the 
first to discern the shake, which, he says, is con- 
veyed by the cognizance " a falcon with his wings 
displayed," or, as sometimes termed, " rousant." 
Proceeding upon the assumption that these arms 
were made for Shakspeare by Garter and Claren- 
cieux, he tells us that this discovery at once settles 
the question of the spelling of the poet's name as 
Shakespeare, instead of Shakspere or the other 
forms. Now, to any one who possesses the slightest 
knowledge of heraldic matters, the idea that 
Dethich and Camden invented any such rebus for 
Shakspeare or his father is simply ludicrous. 
What they did in this and similar cases was to con- 
firm and legalize an old traditional coat, and it is 
difficult to see, therefore, how it can possibly affect 
the spelling of Shakspeare's name, either one way 
or the other, for I suppose no one doubts that the 
word is really compounded of Shake and spear, 
however they may be spelled. A good example of 
the kind of arms manufactured at this period may 
be seen in the coat granted to Drayton, who was 
also novus homo A pegasus in a field azure, galle"e 
d'eau, with a Mercury's cap for the crest. 

SPERIEND. 

"PRONUNCIATION IN ENGLAND IN 1726." 
Under this head MR. SOLLY gives a list of words 
from Bailey's Introduction to the English Tongue, 
1726 (5 th S. iv. 346). It is a curious fact that 
most of these words are pronounced by the un- 
educated Irish of the present exactly the same as 
by the educated English of 150 years ago for 
instance, the words coroner, onion, vault, Wednes- 
day, which are pronounced "crowner" (this form 
of the word is fast going out of use), " inian," 



26 



NOTES AND QUERIES. 



[5 th S. V. JAN. 8, 76. 



" vaut " (in its meaning as a cavern or grotto this 
word is so pronounced, but the verb " vault, to 
leap lightly, is pronounced " waut "), " Wensday. 

Many more of such parallel forms of pronuncia- 
tion could doubtless be produced'if occasion re- 
quired, but they are perfectly needless, as it is 
quite evident from the examples quoted above 
that the asseveration which I made in the be- 
ginning of this short and imperfect note is per- 
fectly true, namely, that the present pronunciation 
of the uneducated Irish is exactly the same as that 
of the educated English of a century and a half 
auo. But the question, How is this ? remains as. a 
philological, lexicographical stumbling-block for 
all modern philologists. 

The only explanation that I can offer of this 
singular truth is that, perhaps, when the Irish 
language began to be generally discontinued about 
the year 1715 or 1720, and the English to be 
adopted as the language of the country, and the 
vernacular English of that period being pronounced 
as given in Bailey's Dictionary, it continued to be 
used in Ireland without the "improvements" of 
the modern English, with that tenacity so expres- 
sivo of the Irish character. P. G. COGAN. 

Ballaghaderin, co. Mayo, Ireland. 

" Is THERE ANYTHING NEW UNDER THE SUN?" 

Aristotle, in the Nicomachean Ethics, divides 
mankind into two classes, the 6vfj,r)riKoi and the 
tirtQviMjTiKoi, the "irascible" and the "concu- 
piscent." This division of the most acute and 
searching moral analyst that ever lived has been 
accepted by philosophers, approved by divines, 
and confirmed by the observation and experience 
of the world. Every family attests its accuracy. 
Men range themselves according to it in classes 
by natural attraction. Parties in religion and 
politics form its grander development. It even 
reaches, according to Jewish doctors, into the 
hierarchy of heaven : " The cherubim know most; 
the seraphim love most." 

Or/xos", anger, bla/ing fire, and criflv/ua, desire, 
smouldering fire, are chief motives of human action : 
flr/zos associated with the highest intelligence, 
tiridvjua with the most intense affections. 

Aristotle makes cmyua, manliness, true courage, 
the virtue of #r/;.os ; o-w^/jrorn;, temperance, 
the virtue of e7rt0i>/Aia. In his system 0v/zos is 
chiefly the characteristic of the male sex ; tTrt- 
Qvfua is chiefly exhibited in children. 

Aristotle missed necessarily what I believe to 
be the truth, viz., that fryxos is the original 
characteristic of the first man, wiOvuia of the 
firtt woman. It is to be observed that all the 
subsequent varieties of human character are trace- 
able to the various proportions in which these two 
original specialties are distributed by the mixture 
the sexes. There are masculine women and 
there are effeminate men. These are the extremes 



There are infinite intermediates. But the most 
perfect man and the most perfect woman are they 
in whom the true and original type, according to 
sex, prevails without overmastering predominance. 

I have never seen this stated as a proposition, 
or taken for granted, or alluded to by any writer. 
And this fact of my own extensive, but of course 
limited, reading is the ground of the tentative 
question at the head of this paper, " Is there any- 
thing new under the sun ? " 

HERBERT EANDOLPH. 

Worthing. 

SWINTONS OF SWINTON. This family had at the 
close of last century possessed the estates for about 
740 years, and during that long period, and not- 
withstanding the strifes and wars at home and 
abroad, only twenty-two barons held the lands. 
The estate was first granted to their ancestor for 
clearing the country of the wild boar, and sub- 
sequently confirmed by Malcolm Canmore for the 
assistance rendered by another ancestor in the 
recovery by that king of his throne. This charter 
is one of the first granted in Scotland. The fifth 
baron died in 1200. His tombstone still, or at 
any rate till recently, extant bears the inscription, 
" Hie jacet Alanus Swintoun miles de eodem." 

SETH WAIT. 

STRAW NECKLACES. The straw necklaces, or 
collars, which are mentioned by Erasmus as being 
worn by pilgrims, were the cause of several notes 
in the First Series of " N. & Q.," but their meaning 
is yet to be explained. In the new edition of the 
late Mr. John Gough Nichols's translation of the 
Pilgrimages, the following note occurs : " This 
allusion I am unable to explain, as I do not find 
such emblems elsewhere mentioned." " N. & Q." 
has now a much wider circulation than in its- 
youth. Some of its readers may have hit upon 
something that explains the use of these straw 
ornaments. 

It is useful to notice corrupt words and forms of 
words when they appear. Newspaper readers have 
long been familiar with wheats, though the proper 
plural is undoubtedly wheat. I have to-day, for 
the first time, met with straws used in a wrong 
manner : 

" There was a clause in the lease to the effect that all 
straws were to he consumed on the premises." Leeds 
Mercury, Nov. 12, 1875. 

The plural of straiv is straws ; but when the word 
straw is used not to represent the stem of a grain- 
bearing plant, but a bundle, heap, or stack of such 
stems, it has no plural, or if a plural it have, it is- 
straw as in the singular. ANON. 

DEATH OF KING CHARLES II. In reference to 
Dalrymple's Memoirs of the Revolution, Wesley 
says in his Journal (vol. iii. p. 458, ed. 1864) : 

" He cordially believes that idle tale which King 
James published concerning Father Huddleston's giving- 



5 th S. V. JAN. 8, 76.] 



NOTES AND QUERIES. 



King Charles extreme unction. My eldest brother askee 
Lady Oglethorpe concerning this. ' Sir,' said she, ' ] 
never left the room from the moment the king was taken 
ill till the breath went out of his body, and I aver tha 
neither Father Huddleston nor any priest came into th< 
house till his death.' " 

E. H. A. 

" CENTENARY." In these days of centennia' 
commemorations an orthographer's eye is offendec 
.by the prevalence of this mode of spelling 
Analogy and etymology require " centennary." 

S. T. P. 



[We must request correspondents desiring information 
on family matters of only private interest, to aflBx their 
names and addresses to their queries, in order that the 
answers may be addressed to them direct.] 

CHARTERHOUSE. I have wished to send some- 
thing for the Christmas number, but have not 
found time to do so ; but lately, on reading an 
account of the old and new foundation of the 
Charterhouse, some of the quaint names and 
remarks in it induce me to send, in the form of a 
query, a note or two. 

In the accounts of the Hospital, as it was first 
called, one heading is " For Weakly Beavors.' 
Does the latter word mean beverages ? I conclude 
it does, for, after giving a list of recipients, it sums 
up as follows : 

"In all Dyets and Beavors : Weekly, xxxiiiJ. vis. Id. 
ob. ; yearly, M.vii c .xxxi. xviiis. vid. ob." 

It follows on with a heading, "For exceeding 
days," and gives a list of them as numbering 

" Twenty-three exceeding days, namely, Christmas 
Day, St. Stephen, St. John, Innocents', New Year's, 
JBviphany, Candlemas, Shrove Sunday and Tuesday, 
King's Day, Queen's Day, Lady Day, Easter Day, Mun- 
day and Tuesday, Ascension, Whit Sunday, Munday and 
Tuesday, Midsummer, Michaelmas, All Saints', Fifth of 
November, and Twelfth of December. Ammounting in all 
to xliiitf. ixs. iiiid." 

What were King's and Queen's Days, and was the 
12th of December the day of the foundation of the 
Hospital ? 

Amongst the rules for the behaviour of the 
4t poor Brethren " of the charity is one that infers 
that in those days it was customary to sit down to 
dinner with your hat on, for it runs : 

" All the poor Brethren, and other the Inferior 
Officers and Members of the said Hospital now being, 
and their Successors that shall hereafter at any time be 
chosen into their rooms, shall give dutiful Reverence 
to the Master of the Hospital for the time being, where- 
soever they shall happen to be in his presence, or when 
either he shall speak to any of them, or any of them 
shall repair or speak to him, they shall stand before 
him with their Heads uncovered, not presuming, whilst 
they are in his presence, to put on their Hats (except it 
be at the Table whilst they are at Dinner and Supper)," &c. 

Is it known whether it was customary to sit 



down to meals covered ? The order is dated " Per 
Ordinem, 24 Februarii, 1622." 

Another order of Feb. 26, 1622, is rather a 
quaint one : 

"None of the said poor Brethren, or other the said 
Inferiour Officers and Members of the said Hospital, 
shall wear any weapons, long hair, coloured boots, spurs, 
or any coloured shoes, feathers in their hats, or any 
Ru-sian-like or unseemly Apparel, but such as becomes 
Hospital-men to wear." 

In Thomas Button's, the founder's, will, dated 
2nd Nov. proved 4th Dec., 1611 is an item 
which seems a rather curious way of paying a 
legacy : 

" And wheras Mr. John Gardiner, brother to my late 
wife, by his last Will and Testament, did give unto Anne, 
Dudley, now wife to Sir Francis Popham, one hundred 
pounds to be paid to her at the day of her marriage, the 
same hundred pounds was and is paid by me, at or 
before the day of her marriage, viz. In a Chain of Gold 
being fourscore and seventeen pounds ten shillings in 
Gold, and for the fashion paid to Master Padmore, Gold- 
smith in London, fifty shillings, which compleats the 
hundred pounds, for the which, amongst other things 
which I delivered in trust, I have no acquittance." 

D. C. E. 

5, The Crescent, Bedford. 

EPITAPH IN CASHEL CATHEDRAL. 
" Mileri Magrath Archiep. Cash, ad viatorem carmen. 
Venerat in Dunum primo sanctissimus olim 
Patricius nostri gloria magna soli. 
Huic e<ro succedens, utinum tarn sanctus ut ille, 
Sic Duni primo tetnpore praesul eram. 
Ansdia lustra decem sed post tua sceptra colebam, 
Principibus placui marte tonante tuis. 
Hie ubi sum positus non sum, sum non ubi non sum. 
Sum nee in ambobus sum nee utroque loco. 
Deus est qui me judicnt 1 Cor. iv. 
Qui stat caveat ne cadat. 1621." 

I take this epitaph from a paper in a late 
number of the Guardian (Oct. 6), " Roundabout 
from Dublin to Cashel, No. II." Many years ago 
I copied the eighth and ninth lines from the 
monument, reading sed in place of the second nee. 
Miler Magrath was first a Franciscan friar, and 
had been appointed Bishop of Down by Pope 
Pius V. Afterwards he became a Protestant, and, 
in 1570, was made Bishop of Clogher, and then 
was elevated to the Archbishopric of Cashel, 
which he held for forty-two years.* His cha- 
racter is rather roughly handled by Mr. D. Mac- 

arthy in his Life and Letters of Florence Mac- 
Carthy Mor (London, 1867). On the epitaph he 
remarks : 

" The last two years of his life he spent in bed, where 

t pleased him to compose an epitaph, which in due time 

was to be, and was, engraved upon his monument. It is 

tself a monument, cere perennius, of his erudition and 

he subtlety of his genius. No learner] man of his own 

day, no one during the two and a half centuries that 

mve passed since, has been able to expound the meaning 

f this enigma " (p. 439). 



* See the Annals of Ireland (Dr. O'Donovan), vol. vi. 
.. 1998, note. 



NOTES AND QUERIES. 



[5 th S. V. JAN. 8, 76. 



The difficulty of which Mr. MacCarthy speaks 
seems to be found only in the eighth and ninth 
lines. The fifth refers to his having been Bishop 
of Down ; the sixth states that he had been 
fifty years a Protestant bishop, from 1570 to 1620. 
The seventh line, " Principibus placui marte 
tonante tuis," can be explained by the fact of the 
warm support he gave to the English Government 
during the Irish wars in the reign of Queen Eliza- 
beth. Perhaps some contributor to " N. & Q." can 
"expound the enigma" in the eighth and ninth 
lines. E. M. BARRY. . 

Scothorne Vicarage. 

BAMBOROUGH CASTLE AND THE DE BRADE- 
FOKDES. I should be much obliged if any anti- 
quary, versed in ancient tenures, would inform 
me, from the following extracts from the national 
records, what connexion the family of De Brade- 
forde had with Bamborough Castle in early times. 
In the published Calendars of the Inquisitiones 
Post Mortem (which are a very brief summary, or 
sort of index, to the matter contained in these 
records), under the names of several generations of 
the above family, appear " Bradeforde manerium " 
and " Bainburgh Castrum," as if the castle, like 
the manor, was held in fee by them (as the latter 
certainly was). I am told, however, that this is 
not a necessary inference from the matter contained 
in the original records, which I quote below ; and 
I .shall be glad to know what office connected with 
the castle, or tenure of it, it implies. In an In- 
quisitio Post Mortem on Alexander de Brade- 
forde, " temp. Henry III.," it is said of him, as of 
several other generations of the same family, that 
lie paid annually " ad wardam Castri de Bamburo- 
and then follows " et ad cornagium xiijrf. et sus- 
tinuit quandam domum competentem infra pre- 
dictuin castrum de suo proprio et hajc predicta 
faciet heres ipsius." Was a castle guard or pay- 
ment towards it a special office, or was it a thins 
common to all tenants in capitc who held property 
Of.the Crown near any castle 1 The office, however, 
state,] I in the latter quotation from the Inquisitio 
lost Mortem above mentioned "sustinuit quan- 
dam domum competentem infra predictum castrum 
de HUO propno," &c, must, I fancy, have been 
spc^l to Alexander de Bradeforde with regard to 
the castle, and apparently hereditary But what 
was it ? An explanation will much oblige 

ANTIQUITY. 
a Wood in 



ur hi P atron of Sir William 

u-.lale, was ' cousin gernmn to Richard Seawell 

who had married his (Dugdale's) sister " ' 

I learn from the Heralds' Visitation of Warwick 

Jbirc, taken in 1619, that Richard SewiT of 

S' IT:? M r Dugdale ' and b > htr wL 
of three daughters, Margaret, Mary and 



Elizabeth, then respectively aged four, three, and 
one. 

In the same Visitation, William Shewell, of 
Coventry, is stated to have married Anne, one of 
the sisters of Richard Wagstaffe, living 1619. And 
a Henry Shewell was one of the "supervisors" of 
the will of Alverey Greisbrooke or Greysbrooke, 
of Middleton, co. Warwick, gent., dated Sept. 24, 
1575. 

I wish to know how Dugdale's brother-in-law 
was cousin german to Samuel Roper. The latter 
was the son of Thomas Roper (of the Heanor, co. 
Derby, family) by Anne, one of the daughters of 
the above-named Alverey Greysbrooke. Was 
Richard Shewell's mother a Roper or a Greys- 
brooke? 

Alverey Greysbrooke had three other daughters 
unmarried at the date of his will, viz., Margaret, 
Prudence, and Mary. I do not know to whom 
these ladies were married, but it may be that one 
of them espoused a Shewell, and became the 
mother of Dugdale's brother-in-law. 

H. SYDNEY GRAZEBROOK. 
Stourbridge. 

CRAIGIE OF GAIRSAY, co. ORKNEY, BARONETS 
OF NOVA SCOTIA, CREATED 1707. See list of 
Baronets of Nova Scotia, in Beat son's Political 
Index, 3rd edit., 1808, vol. iii. p. 1806. Can any 
reader of " N. & Q." refer me to any history of 
these baronets, or any account of the Craigie 
family of Gairsay ? None is to be found in Play- 
fair's Baronetage of Scotland in 1811, from which 
one might infer they were then extinct, yet they 
are not in Burke's Extinct Baronetage of 'Scotland 
(1844) ; while in Lodge's Baronetage (attached to 
his Peerage), from 1832 to 1842, appears "Sir- 
William Craigie of Gairsay, Orkney (S.), created 
1707," but no date of birth or of succession ; also 
in Dod's Peerage, &c., of 1841, is the like entry. 
To Rendall parish, according to John Brand's de- 
scription of the Orkneys in 1701 (six years before 
the baronetcy), " belongs Gairsay. a little pleasant 
isle, wherein lives Sir (sic) William Craig (sic) 
of Gairsay," probably then a knight, and possibly 
afterwards first baronet. 

In Fullarton's Gazetteer of Scotland, 1848, under 
" Gairsa," it is said : 

"Close by the south shore stand the remains of an old 
house, which seems formerly to have possessed some 
degree of elegance and strength, and was the residence 
of Si,r William Craigie and others of that name and 
tamily. 

The registers of Rendall are unfortunately lost. 
With the exception of these two Sir William 
Craigies one of whom' was certainly before the 
baronetcy was created, and the other probably 
long after it was extinct I can find no notice 
of the family. There is none in Nisbet's Heraldry, 
nor in Douglas's Baronagium. Is there any his- 



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NOTES AND QUERIES. 



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to possess that very work, but I can find therein 
no mention of a Wilkinson baronetcy. 

ARGENT. 

Is THE ISLE OF BARDSEY IN CARNARVON- 
SHIRE OR PEMBROKESHIRE ? Taxatio Pap. Nich. 
IV., A.D. 1291, says, " The Abbey of Bardesey, in 
the diocese of Bangor." Valor Ecclesiasticus, 
temp. Henry VIIL, has, " The Monastery of the 
Blessed Mary of Bardesey, in the deanery of Llyn, 
in the county of Carnarvon, and the diocese of 
Bangor." On the other hand, tradition says 
Bardsey is in the county of Pembroke. I visited 
this island in 1867, and in conversation with the 
inhabitants found that they and their ancestors 
considered Bardsey to be in Pembrokeshire, assign- 
ing as a reason somewhat about the flow of the 
race. I am told there is also a tradition in Pem- 
brokeshire that Bardsey is in that county, and in 
the parish of Hasguard. 



tory of the Orkneys giving an account of the prin- 
cipal proprietors there, and of their genealogy ? 

G. E. C. 

OLD IRISH HISTORY. I am desirous to know : 
1. Whether the Irish people possessed at any time, 
before or after the introduction of Christianity 
into the island, a system of mythology. 2. If so, 
can you direct me where to look for an account 
thereof ? 3. If they possessed nothing in the shape 
of a mythology higher than their fairy belief, can 
you tell me where to look for a complete account 
of the origin, development, and nature of belief in 
those sprites ? 4. Do you know of any book or 
books containing a broad, clear, and comparatively 
impartial analysis of Irish character ? 

I have read some of the writings of Carleton, 
Croker, Kennedy, Keightley, Griffin, Moore, Edge- 
worth, and others, but have not been able to find 
in them anything very satisfactory on the points 
named. WM. H. LYONS. 

East Tenth Street, New York. 

PORTRAIT OF GAINSBOROUGH, IN MINIATURE. 
I heard the other day of a person who had a 
portrait of Gainsborough for sale a miniature said 
to have been executed by himself, and to have 
come from some member of the family of the late 
John Constable. Can any one inform me of a 
known portrait in miniature of him, and in whose 
possession it now is? Fulcher speaks of one 
portrait only of this class, and at the time of his 
publication it was in the possession of a Miss 
Clarke. Any information will oblige. NEMO. 

BELFRY RULES. We have had a great deal 
about not ringing in spur and hat, but I do not 
remember any reason being assigned for the 
prohibition. Was any danger to self or fellow- 
ringers likely to follow so doing ? P. P. 

JOHN HOLLAND. Who was John Holland, 
author of Crudana ? Liverpool, printed and pub- 
lished by D. Marples & Co. ; London, Hamilton, 
Adams & Co., 1835. ST. SWITHIN. 

SHELLEY. I have a copy of an old romance 
with the following title : 

" St. Irvyne ; or, the Rosicrucian : a Romance. By 
a Gentleman of the University of Oxford. London : 
J. Stockdale, 1811." 

Can any reader of " N. & Q." inform me if it 
was written by Shelley? I have an indistinct 
recollection of having seen a statement to that 
effect somewhere. K. K. D. 

WILKINSON BARONETCY. Was there ever a 
William Wilkinson, Physician to the Lord 
Lieutenant of Ireland, and by him created a 
baronet ? I have been referred to Burke's Extinct 
Baronetage, second edition (by a gentleman since 
deceased), for confirmation of this fact. I happen 



AARON ROBERTS. M.A. 



Carmarthen. 



CABINET COUNCIL. In what year was this term 
first used, or in what book is the phrase first known 
to occur ? EDWARD SCOTT. 



GRAY'S "ELEGY." 

(5 th S. iii. 100, 313, 398, 414, 438, 478, 494, 500.) 
The following correspondence, printed in the 
Melbourne Argus for August 3 and 5, 1875, may 
interest your correspondents. In any case it will 
serve to show the popularity of " N. & Q.," and 
the promptness with which questions of a literary 
sort are noted and queried by residents in this 
fifty-year-old city : 

" TENNYSON AND GRAY. 
"To the Editor of the Argus. 

"Sir, Your London correspondent, in the 'Town 
Talk' printed in Saturday's issue, mentions an early 
poem of Tennyson's having been printed for private cir- 
culation in his youth, but suppressed (says the World) 
'in consequence of its sceptical opinions.' It would be 
difficult, I think, to condense a lunger amount of literary 
wickedness into the same compass than this quotation 
from the World contains. Every rule of right, every 
canon of criticism, is by implication violated in it. For 
here are the facts : 

"1. The poem in question (Supposed Confessions) 
was printed in the first of Alfred Tennyson's separate 
works. I once possessed that precious volume for some 
years, but unluckily lent it to a literary friend, who, 
beii'g an expert in book keeping, of course never re- 
turned it. The title of the volume is ' Poems, chiefly 
Lyrical, by Alfred Tennyson. London : Effingham 
Wilson, 1830.' The famous review of it, written by 
John Wilson, is to be found in Blackwood for May, 1832. 

"2. There was no printing for private circulation, and 
no suppression, then, in the case at all. The poem was 
as fairly published aa was the matchless Mariana, the 
gorgeous Recollections of the Arabian Nights, or that 
mournful wail of Oriana, respecting which even John 



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Wilson wrote that it was ' perhaps the most beautiful of 
Alfred Tennyson's compositions,' and which certainly 
never was excelled as an imitation of the ancient ballad 
style, not even by Surtees's Barlhram's Dirye or Miss 
Elliott's Flower* of the Forest. The three pieces of 
Tennyson's just named were all included in his first inde- 
pendent publication. 

" 3. The Supposed Confessions were no more autobio- 
graphical than the Two Voices, which wonderful poem 
was an amplification of the other. Like all young poets 
and all youthful artists, Tennyson made many rough 
sketches at first, which he subsequently wrought up into 
finished works. Now, the sole reason why these Con- 
fessions were not preserved as an integral portion of the 
*poet's standard works was because they were superseded 
by the consummate performance. The implied charge 
as to the suppression, I repeat, is therefore just as false, 
just as unfounded, as that implied in the statement about 
private circulation. 

" 4. The highest effort of genius is achieved in creating 
new types of character, new moods of mind, and so de- 
picting them as that they shall seem expressions of the 
poet's, or dramatist's, or novelist's own individuality. 
This is the Shakspearian range, culminating in Hamlet, 
and the Miltonic, culminating in the t^atan of Paradise 
Lost. It is treason to genius to identify the creator in 
these cases with his creations. It is to sink Shakspeare 
to the level of Rousseau, Milton to the level of Byron. 
Such treason to genius is the literary crime perpetrated 
by the World in Tennyson's regard. But the author of 
the Two Voices, and still more of the immortal In Me- 
moriam, is unassailable on any such grounds. 

"5. As to Gray. The writer of the 'London Town 
Talk ' seems to be unaware that the variations in the 
first MS. of the Eltytj ha\e been common property for 
all students of English literature ever since Mason pub- 
lished his edition of Gray's priceless poems. These 
variations are all set forth in Mitford's (the Aldine) 
edition, a very common volume. To me it has always 
seemed a fact unaccountable that the omitted stanzas 
Gray was painfully over-fastidious in respect of his own 
compositions are not now included in all the printed 
copies of the Elfyy. Could eloquence surpass could 
loveliness of poetical expression transcend these 
stanzas, for example ? 
" ' Hark ! how the sacred cairn that bivathes around 

Bids every fierce tumultuous passion cease; 
In still small accents whispering from the ground 

A grateful earnest of eternal peace. 
Him have we seen the greenwood side along, 

While o'er the heath we hied, our labour done, 
Oft as the woodlark piped her farewell song, 

With wistful eyes pursue the setting sun. 
There scattered oft, the earliest of the year, 

By hands unseen are showers of violets found; 
The redbreast loves to build and warble there, 

And little footsteps lightly print the ground.' 
-Yours, &c., DAVID BLAIR. 

' Auguit U." 

"TENNYSON AND GRAY. 
" To the Editor of the Argus. 

" Sir, I have read with interest your London corre- 
spondent s remarks concerning Tennyson and Gray, and 
Mr. Blairs observations thereon. I venture to think 
however, that both gentlemen may be mistaken your 
about G COrre8P ndent ab Ut Tenn y son > and Mr - B1 air 
"1. I believe that the 'suppressed poem ' of the Lau- 

* W M n0 f P*} ? ne quoted b ? y ur correspondent, 
and BO ably defended by Mr. Blair. It is quite beyond 



question that Tennyson withdrew as Mr. Blair suggests 
the sketch when he had completed the picture. The 
Supposed Confessions were swallowed up in the Two 
Voices. Among a bundle of papers sent to me from 
London by the last mail was a Figaro. From it I 
extracted the following advertisement : 

'"Early Work by the Poet Laureate. A poem of 48 
pages, entitled The Lover's Tale, written by Alfred 
Tennyson at the age of 19, and withdrawn before publi- 
cation, is for sale.' 

A private letter received at the same time informed me 
that 'some excitement ' had been created among literary 
folk by the announcement of the existence of ' A College 
Poem by Tennyson, x>f an erotic character.' The 
announcement, however, was by many people believed 
to be untrue. I cannot but think that your London 
correspondent has been misled by this report, and has 

quoted the wrong poem 

" 2. As Mr. Blair very properly says, ' the variations 
in Gray's Elegy are all set forth in Mitford's edition,' 
and the charming verses which he quotes are ' common 
property for all students of English literature.' But 
there are other verses attributed to Gray which are not 
printed in either Mason's or Mitford's edition, but which 
are set forth in that literary scrap-book, A'otes and 
Queries. These verses are : 
" ' If chance that e'er some pensive Spirit more 

By sympathetic Musings here delayed, 
With vain, tho' kind enquiry shall explore 

Thy once loved Haunt, this long deserted shade.' 
This stanza has evidently been improved into 
" ' For thee who mindful of th' unhonoured dead 

Dost in these lines their artless tale relate; 
If chance by kindly contemplation led, 

Some kindred spirit shall enquire thy fate,' 
which originally stood as follows, and is quoted by 
Mason : 
" ' And thou, who mindful of th' unhonoured Dead 

Dost in these notes their artless tale relate, 
By night and lonely contemplation led 

To wander in the gloomy walks of Fate.' 
Another verse, on the authority of Dr. Doran, is said to 
have been published in the first edition : 
" ' Some rural Lais with all-conquering charms 

Perhaps now moulders in this grassy bourne ; 
Some Helen, vain to set the world in arms, 

Some Emma, dead of gentle love forlorn.' 
A correspondent of ' N. & Q.' (G. B., Chester), writing 
in the issue of that periodical for May 22, says of this 
stanza, ' It is not found in Mason's notes, and is of very 
doubtful authenticity. It is not consistent with the 
dignified tone and language of the rest of the poem.' 

" Mr. Blair is rarely mistaken when he speaks about 
books, but I venture to submit that these lines, or some 
of them, are really the newly discovered 'variations' 
spoken of by your correspondent. Yours, &o., 

"MARCUS CLARKE. 
" The Public Library, Aug. 3." 

MARCUS CLARKE. 
Public Library, Melbourne. 



JEWS IN IRELAND (5 th S. iv. 268.) There is a 
place on the south-east corner of White Street, 
Cork, now built over, which is said to have been 
the site of a cemetery once used by the Jews. In 
the last century there were many Jews in Cork ; 
they were employed by the merchants, who ex- 
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India Islands. The following, from the Letter- 
Book of the Messrs. Hare, formerly eminent mer- 
chants in Cork, and now in the possession of that 
indefatigable collector, Mr. Henry Franks, will 
help to throw some light on this subject : 

"John Holmes, Jun., Belfast. 

"Oct. 12, 1771. 

"I am favoured with yours of the 7th, and observe 
your order for the 'John.' Butter of 3" quality is at 
46,6 ; second do., 49. Shall provide of each kind, and 
as soon as good cows can be got shall make up for you 60 
Barrels. The cows are not fat as soon as Bullocks, but 
shall pick up so that your vessel shall not be delayed. I 
shall apply to our Jew Butcher about the salmon, but 
am certain he will not give a certificate. Indeed, I am 
somewhat doubtful if any certificate is necessary. I 
have shipped a trifle of salmon for a Jew in Jamaica 
without a certificate, and had no complaint. Rum is 
started here on the prospect of an additional duty of Qd. 
pr. gallon. We have not above 200 puncheons here in 
the importer's hands for sale, therefore think it must 
keep up. 

" I am, &c." 

The following, from Buxtorf s Synagoga Judaica, 
cap. xxxvi., " De pecoris Judaic! comestione et 
mactatione," edit. Basil. 8vo., 1661, may be read 
as a commentary on the passage above relating to 
the " Jew butcher " : 

" Non permissum est Judseis de ullo animali edere, 
quod non habet ungulas fissas et divisas, quodque cibum 
non ruminat, ut Boves et Oves. Unde non edunt 
Lepores, Cuniculos, Porcos. 

" Sic non comedunt Pisces, qui non habent squamas et 
alas, neque conchyliata, ut cancros et similes; pisces sibi 
licitos indiiferenter edunt, quisque eos occiderit. 

" Prohibits etiam ipsis sunt omnes aves rapaces, et 
reptilia, Quae omnia desumunt ex Levitici capite 
undecimo. Unde neque ilia comedunt, quae ab aliis 
gentibus cocta sunt, neque illorum vel vasis culinariis, 
vel cultris utuntur : quia fieri potest ut ilia usurpata 
fuerint ad cibos sibi prohibitos. 

"Non edunt sebum vel adipem, Bourn, Ovium vel 
daprarum, juxtapreceptum Levit. iii. 17, omnem adipem, 
et omnem, sanguinem non comedetis. Neque etiam Armum 
posteriorem. Unde magno studio, et accurate, omnem 
adipem et nervum femoris ab animalibus mactando 
separant. 

" Ob has et alias causas, circa Mactationem, ad super- 
stitionem usque scrupulosi sunt Judaei, et magnae artis 
est nia'TO' Schechitah, Mactatio, seu, recte mactare posse. 

" Preceptum Mactationes petunt ex eo, quod Deut. xii. 
21, legitur nmn et mactabis de bobus tuia, et de pecudibus 
tuis, quas dederat tibi Dominus, prvitf iiwo quemad- 
modum praecepi tibi. 

"Hie, aiunt, contineri praeceptum generale, quando 
dicitur, nron et mactabis; Speciales vero ejus Leges non 
exprimi, sed innui, dum additur, Quemadmodum prcecepi 
tibi, nempe alibi. Atqui nullibi Jegitur Deus specialia 
hac de re mandata Mosi dedisse ; Itaque sensus horum 
verborum est. Quemadmodum tibi prcecepi ore tenus in 
Monte Sinai; unde ea ex Lege Orali discenda et habenda 
sunt. Qui artem hanc discit, per aliquot annos perito 
Janio mactanti adesse debet ; tot vero tantisque res est 
implicata constitutionibus (sesquipedales enim libri hac 
de re conscripti sunt) ut ex solo aspectu nemo perfecte 
discat, sed artis illius studio diligenter sit incumbendum, 
et verae constitutiones ex peculiaribus libris petendae et 
discendae." 



The following is a translation of the testimonium 
or diploma granted by the Kabbi to the butcher 
perfect in his art : 

"Hodie exploravi et examinavi praestantem et egre- 
gium N. filium N. et ilium in arte mactandi peritum et 
industrium, turn ore, turn manu esse comperi, ideo illi 
pecus mactare et inquirere permitto, et libere comedi 
poterit, quicquid mactaverit et inquisiverit. Hac tamen 
lege, ut adhuc per integrum annum, siri^ulis hebdoma- 
dibus semel. Ritus mactationis et inquisitionis dili- 
genter perlegat, anno vero secundo singulis mensibus 
semel, tandem reliquo vitae suae spatio singulis trimestri- 
bus semel tantum. Attestante Rabbino N." 

The following is the method to be adopted in 
slaughtering animals : 

" Majoribus pecudibus quatuor pedes in unum colligant, 
Abraham! exemplo, quern Isaaco manus et pedes vinxisse 
volunt, quum ilium offerre vellet ; jugulum postea et 
fauces uua resolvunt sectione, statimque cultrum inspi- 
ciunt, an nuspiam retusus, vel crenam consequutus fuerit ; 
crena enim in cultro pecus terret, et sanguis in cor cogitur, 
adeo ut effluere non possit, hacque ratione pecus illicitum 
redditur esusque illius interdicitur. Postquam scctio 
ilia feliciter successit, pecus suependunt, intestina deri- 
piunt, e regione cordis ab utraque parte foramen 
rescindunt, inde Mactator, vel quilibet alius qui bene 
inquirere novit, manum immittit, et an nihil adnatum 
fuerit, inquirit, an nuspiam sanguis ullus lateat,^ vel 
aquese pustulae jecinori et pulmoni adhasreant ; et, si vel 
minimus defectus deprehendatur, pecus illicitum est, nee 
audeat Judseus comedere, uti scribitur : Morticinum et 
laceratum a bestiis non, comedetis, sed projicietis canibus. 
Hinc stolide pro more suo concludunt Judaei, nulluni sibi 
pecus edendum esse, nisi omnino sanum et incolume ; 
quamvis Scriptura non de vivo sed de morticino, quod 
per se mortuum, vel a feris laceratum fuerit, loquatur." 

K. C. 

Cork. 

" SCATOLOGICA " (5 th S. iv. 427, 523.)-! know 
nothing of this controversy, but MR. SWIFTE'S 
suggestion that scatology may be derived from 
scnteo is " very tolerable and not to be endured." 
He, indeed, does it less than justice in deriving 
" sctitol- " from " scateo," for the nearer form scato 
is in Lucretius and perhaps elsewhere. 

But there is no example of the affix " -logy," or 
" -logical," after a verb, however adapted. It is 
always after a noun, commonly a noun substantive, 
or a participle (as in "ontology"), which is a 
quasi-nouu. 

Nor does scateo very easily indicate comprehen- 
siveness ; nor do I know MR. SWIFTE'S authority 
for deriving the English scatter from scateo. The 
root usually given is a Saxon word. 

I am not sure if M. GANTILLON is in earnest 
with his " Dungological." But though no less a 
writer than Dr. Whewell has suggested " Tido- 
logy," I cannot but think that this tying together 
of English and Greek is ugly, not to say bar- 
barous. LYTTELTON. 

P.S. Since writing I have seen with much 
concern the death of MR. SWIFTE, whose retention 
of his faculties till the age of ninety-nine is uiar- 



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vellous, to the degree in which it was granted to 
him. 

[This intimation of the death of' our venerable corre- 
spondent will we are sure, excite the regret of all our 
readers Although so n-ar to a hundred years of age, 
Mn SWIFTE wrote a clear, strong, legible hand, as easy 
to read as print, very pleasant to the wearied eyes of 
compositors, " readers," and editors. To such ever- 
working folk, handwriting like that of the late MR. 
SWIFTK'S conies just as might a gentlemanly courtesy. It 
seems a warrant for many virtues, and induces a belief 
in the possible perfectibility of man.] 

MUSICAL REVENGE : " HTJDIBRAS " (5 th S. iii. 
325, 3<)3, 450, 519; iv. 277, 295.) MR. STEPHENS 
has furnished " N. Q." with a list of illustrated 
editions of Hudibras (" N. & Q.," iii. 456), and 
your industrious correspondent maintains that the 
existence of such a list (in the British Museum 
Catalogue) demonstrates the gradually increasing 
popularity of Butler's epic, as generation after gene- 
ration became acquainted with it. MR. STEPHENS 
observes, and with due penetration : 

" Illustrated editions were made, of course, to sell, and 
th:it they did sell is proved by the fact .... that con- 
siderable numbers of impressions must have been taken 
from the durable copper-plates." 

Here is a confession that the pictorial editions 
were " made to sell." But then this is, per se, a 
" trick of the trade." It does not, therefore, dis- 
prove my hypothesis, but seems to confirm it. The 
old booksellers doubtless found Hudibras a safe 
stock book, to a certain extent, to trade on, conse- 
quently they did not mind experimenting upon 
the letter-press by lending to it the charm of 
engravings. It might be long before the stock 
could be exhausted, but it would not be a bad 
investment, at any rate. It is a principle of the 
trade to invest their money in works of a per- 
manent character, and wait for the result. But, for 
all that. Hudibras did not, I suspect, get into any 
other hands, amongst the public, than those of the 
upper classes and the better-off middle classes. I 
think a youth from school during his holidays, 
having an illustrated Butler's Poems put in his 
hands to-day as a Christmas present, would be 
puzzled to find out how to admire its contents 
Tor my own part, I have been always accustomed 
to estimate Hudibras as "a book of reference" 
rather than as a splendid satirical epic. So, pro- 

ibly, does many a literary man in these days. 
-But to take another view of Hudibrastic readers 
The buyers of books for the lust ten generations 
oarse, been a successively increasing class 
Ibe rich parvenu and the ostentatious patrician 
were both fond and proud of a well-selected library 

d were no doubt continually adding to it ; but I 

they might not be readers of books, but only 

possessors of a library, which they showed to their 

inends w-ithout knowing, perhaps, Fuller's Worthies 

PP nf H ch /- X T*T " In m ^ wind's eye " I can 
see my old friend Isaac Pocock, magistrate in 



Berks fifty years ago, sitting in his study, in his 
accustomed chair in his old library, just under the 
oriel window. He has a copy of Hudibras in his 
hand ; but for what purpose ? Pocock was a 
dramatist, and he is searching for some apt witti- 
cism or sarcasm to fit into the dialogue of a new 
play for Covent Garden. I believe the mere 
fashion of assuming book knowledge in the old 
times stood for the love of books for the reading's 
sake. In this way, then, we may account for the 
constant issuing of new editions of the classics, 
ancient and modern, over a period of centuries. 
Are not illustrated "family Bibles," like Fox's 
Boole, of Martyrs used to be, now forced upon 
country people by colporteurs or booksellers' can- 
vassers, in numbers at sixpence, less or more 1 The 
same system is about a century old ; and such was 
one way of circulating illustrated books. This may 
be called active trading in new editions, but it 
cannot be said that it proves the ever increasing 
popularity of Hudibras. E. H. MALCOLM. 

" URCHARD," THE TRANSLATOR OF RABELAIS 
(5 th S. iv. 428.) I beg to say that the translator 
of Rabelais is not " always called Urquhart " : the 
alternative Urchard is given in Gorton's Biogra- 
phical Dictionary (London, 1820). In fact, Ur- 
chard is the older way of spelling the name. 
William Urchard, of Cromarty, was heritable 
sheriff of that shire in the reign of Robert Bruce ; 
about ninth in descent from him was this Sir 
Thomas, who was knighted by Charles I., and 
afterwards taken prisoner at the battle of Worces- 
ter, fighting on the royal side, which he defended 
with his pen also, as well as his sword. He was 
author of several curious works, one of which, 
truly characteristic of a Scotchman, was a gene- 
alogy of the Urquharts, in which he professed to 
trace their descent by regular generations from 
Adam. He died soon after the Restoration ; and 
this being so, he cannot be styled " the collaborator 
of Ozell and Motteux in a translation of Rabelais," 
if the big ugly word implies, as I suppose, that all 
three worked together at the same time on the 
same book. I will explain. It appears that Sir 
T. Urquhart translated only the first three books 
of Rabelais, of which the third was not printed till 
some considerable time after his death. Motteux, 
a Frenchman, but a good English scholar, driven 
over here by the revocation of the Edict of Nantes, 
added to Sir Thomas's three books a translation of 
the remaining two, containing the account of Pan- 
tagruel's voyage, explanations, and alife of Rabelais. 

After Motteux's death in 1718, Ozell, a conceited 
fellow of French extraction, and much inferior in 
attainments to Motteux, at whom he carps and ' 
cavils in an absurd way, published a translation of 
Rabelais, which is simply a reprint of Urquhart 
and Motteux's. All that he did for Rabelais was 
to add to the existing translation certain notes, 



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chiefly stolen from the late new edition of the ori- 
ginal French by Duchat. I have a copy of Ozell's 
edition, printed at Dublin, 1738. Both Motteux 
and Ozell figure in the "Dunciad." One word more 
about the spelling of Urquhart. Motteux spells it 
Urwhart; Ozell spells it Urquart. The oldest 
form seems to have been Urchart, according to an 
old deed referring to a Galleroch Urchart, alluded 
to by J. Burke in his Landed Gentry (London, 
1838). J. H. I. OAKLEY. 

Wyverby, Melton Mowbray. 

The word Urchard is quite correct : it is spelt 
exactly as the word Urquhart is pronounced, 
though an Englishman would probably call it 
Urque-hart. There are many other Scottish 
names which are pronounced in the old way dif- 
ferently from what they are spelt in the new, e. g., 
Menzies, Buchannan, Colquhoun, M'Kenzie, &c. 

J. E. HAIG. 

" GOD'S ACRE " (5 th S. iv. 406, 495.) The great 
point to be settled is, so it seems to me, whether 
" God's acre " is really a translation of " Gottes- 
Acker" or merely an old English expression revived. 
Can any one tell us whether and where it is to be 
found before the time of Longfellow 1 If it is an 
old English expression revived, nothing can be said 
against it further than that the revival is not likely 
to meet with general acceptance. But if it is a 
translation of " Gottes- Acker," then I think MR. 
DIXON is perfectly right, and that it is a mis- 
translation ; and I cannot conceive any one who is 
at all familiar with German defending it. An 
expression cannot be said to be adequately trans- 
lated when the idea conveyed by the translation is 
entirely different from that conveyed by the original. 
To the ordinary German mind the word Acker con- 
veys no, or but a very slight, idea of measurement ;* 
to the ordinary English mind the word acre conveys 
no other idea than that of measurement. It is use- 
less to tell an Englishman (as MR. WARREN does), 
when he meets with the expression " God's acre," 
to divest himself of the idea of a certain fixed 
quantity of land ; it is impossible for him to do 
so. It is clear, therefore, that " Gottes- Acker " is, 
to use a mild expression, altogether inadequately 
rendered by " God's acre." " Acre " may once 
have had the meaning that " Acker " has now, but 
it has lost that meaning, and it is useless to expect 
that it will ever regain it. 

In conclusion, would any one propose to render 

* I have lived in Germany, and spoken and written 
German much for the last twenty-eight years, but I have 
never heard A cker used in the sense of a measure of land, 
though it is given this meaning in the dictionaries. I 
have always heard Morgen used in this sense. I expect 
that the use of A cker, as a measure, is confined to certain 
parts of Germany. Perhaps some German reader of 
"N. &Q." will tell us. 



the Italian equivalent " campo santo " by " holy 
acre"? F. CHANCE. 

Sydenham Hill. 

I had no intention of discussing the etymology 
of either Acker or acre. What I meant, and still 
mean, is this, that at the present day the word 
Acker suggests to a German a special sort of land 
"plough-land." and the word acre suggests to 
an Englishman a definite quantity of any sort of 
land, and therefore that the two words are not the 
equivalents of each other. J. DIXON. 

THE TRADE OF TANNING (5 th S. iv. 428.) In 
the history of our own country we have the 
brothers Robert and William Kett, wealthy tanners 
of Wyinondham, in Norfolk, who headed an im- 
portant insurrection in the reign of Edward VI. 
They came to a more ignominious end than Cleon, 
for Robert was hanged at Norwich, and William 
on the steeple of Wymondham Church. 

We know on good authority how long a tanner 
will "lie i' the earth ere he rot." "A tanner will 
last you nine year. . . His hide is so tanned with 
his trade that he will keep out water a great while ; 
and your water is a sore decayer of your dead 
body." Hamlet, v. 1. J. H. I. OAKLEY. 

For an account of an eccentric individual (James 
Hirst), by trade a tanner, see Gent. Mag., Dec. r 
1829, p. 570. Then "There's Best's son, the 
tanner of Wingham," 2 Henry VI., Act iv. sc. 2, 
what about him ? Mr. Praise-God Barebone was 
a leather-seller and leader of the Republican Par- 
liament. If your correspondent is interested in 
shoemakers, he will find much curious information 
in Crispin Anecdotes, comprising Interesting 
Notices of Shoemakers, with other Matters illustra- 
tive of the History of the Gentle Craft, Sheffield, 
1827, 12mo. Hone's Every-Day Boole, will also 
afford some scraps relating to St. Crispin and his 
followers. GEORGE POTTER. 

42, Grove Road, Holloway, N. 

There is the ballad of Robin Hood and the 
Tanner, " a merry and pleasant song relating the 
gallant and fierce combat fought between Arthur 
Bland, a tanner of Nottingham, and Robin Hood," 
Ritson's Robin Hood, p. 75 (Griffin & Co., n. d.). 

Cleon was first of all a tanner. 

There is an inscription in Guiter, p. 648, n. 8, 
of Cleomenes, " Coriarius subactarius." Face. Sex. 
v. "Coriarius." ED. MARSHALL. 

Some interesting references to this trade may be 
found in two journals devoted to its interests, the 
Tanners' and Curriers' Journal and the Leather 
Trades' Circular and Review, both published 
monthly in London. H. S. 

MR. P. FABTAN has not mentioned one very 
memorable man connected with this trade, the 



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"tanner's grandson" of Falaise, William, the 
Conqueror. M - - L - 

"ABARCA" (5 th S.iv. 169,354,415.) Larramendi 
traces everything to Basque, and is no authority 
at all. Dufresne gives Lucas Tudensis as an 
authority to show that this word is found written 
avarca. " He, however, refers to alpargates, 
" spartea, calcei ex funibus, Hispanis alparga, in 
Constitut. Teresianaruni, cap. 8 ... Collect. Cone. 
Hispan. p. 707. Caligas faciant et cannabaceas 
solcas, vulgo alpargates. Alpargata vertit Sobrinus, 
in Let. Hisp.-Gall, une espece de souliers fait de 
chanvre : il s'en fait aussi de soye, et de joncs la 
plupart." The Dice, de la Acad. Espan. gives 
alpargata, " lo mismo que alpargate, en y muchas 
partes usan llamarla assi con terminacion ferne- 
nina" ; and alpargate, " especie de calzado, que 
se hace de canaiuo o esparto ; pero a este llaman 
en la Mancha y Murcia Alborgas o Espartenas . . . 
Su etymologia dice el P. Alcala viene de la voz 
Arabiga Pargat, que vale lo mismo, y anadista 
el articulo al, y la e al fin, por no ser proprio en 
nuestra lengua remotar sus voces en t, se dixo 
alpargate." Inasmuch as the Arabic does not 
possess the letter p, the word must be looked for 
under b, but is not found. Zedler (Univ. Lex.}, 
after defining the word abarca, says : " Ko'nig 
Sancho I., soil auch davon den Nam en Abarca 
bekommen haben, weil er dergleichen schuhe 
angehabt, als er die Regierung angetreten. Tale- 
tanus, l)c Reb. Hup., v. 122 ; Covarruvias, The- 
faur. Ling. Castell." It must, however, be noted 
that Abarca and De Abarca were the names of 
several celebrated men, and that Abarcas and 
Albarca are local names in Spain. 

E. S. CIIARXOCK. 
Paris. 

CHARLES WILMOT SERRKS, A "SUPPRESSED 
PIUXCK" (5 th S. iv. 401,484; v. 6.) I am glad 
to be able to furnish MR. THOMS with the link in 
the history of Charles Wilmot Series next in order 
to that contributed by CLARRY. 

Having been discharged on April 3, 1825, from 
the Marine Society, Charles Wilmot entered, on 
the 27th idem, the maritime service of the late 
East India Company, and was attached to that 
Company's own ship Buckinghamshire, 1369 tons, 
Capt. Richard Glasspoole, which was then about 
to make her fifth voyage to the East. 

He sailed in her from the Downs on May 2, 
went to China, returned to England on May 31, 
1820, was discharged from her on June 1 following, 
and on the Oth idem received himself, from the 
Company, and signed for, the wages due to him for 
the voyage. 

^ The Company subscribed annually to the Marine 
Society, and took therefrom a certain number oi 
the boys into their maritime service, placing the 
in their own ships. Some of these were appren 



ticed for a term of years, who afterwards generally 
remained in that service, rising to superior posi- 
tions in it ; the others were merely taken for the 
royage, and were discharged on its completion, as 
,vas the case with Charles Wilmot. 

It is not unlikely that he may have made other 
voyages to India in ships owned or freighted by 
the Company or by the public (for the trade to 
India was open then) ; if so, and he went upon 
ships connected with the Company, I might be 
ible to give further information regarding him, 
orovided I am furnished with the names of the 
vessels. 

In respect to the place and date of his birth, 
which MR. THOMS states as being " at present in- 
volved in obscurity," as ; ' he was at one time a 
schoolmaster in one of the Cape Coloured Eegi- 
ments," MR. THOMS might find further informa- 
tion (than appears in Wilmot's letter and the 
Marine Society's records) on these points in the 
records of the War Office. CHARLES MASON. 

India Office, Whitehall. 

" HARD LINES " : CANES (5 th S. iv. 407.) It 
is noticeable that Fuller writes the name of the 
Jewish measuring-rod (ban) Chebel (Pisgah-Sight, 
orig. ed. bk. iii. p. 396), and not hhebcl, as the 
modern printer has altered it ; and it is thus 
brought nearer to our word cable. There seems 
reason in the supposed connexion of the word in 
Ps. xvi. 6 with the common phrase " hard lines." 
It has not escaped the notice of Mr. Grove, who 
says, Smith's Diet. Bib., 1863, p. 298 : 

" The use of the word in this sense [that of allotment] 
in our own idiomatic expression ' hard lines ' will not 
be forgotten. Other correspondencies between Chebel, 
as applied to measurement, and our own words rod, and 
chain, and also cord, as applied in the provinces and 
colonies to solid measures of wood, &c., are obvious." 

It may be remarked that Fuller, in the same 
folio, says that the river Kanah (Josh. xvii. 9) is 
" so called from reeds, Kanah [nap] in Hebrew 
(whence our English word Canes, or walking-staves, 
fetching both the name and thing from the East 
Countreys), growing plentifully thereabouts" (bk. ii. 
173). The writer of the article on weights and 
measures, Dictionary o/ the Bible, p. 1736, calls 
attention to the similarity of these words. B. 

To me evidently derived from drawing and 
painting, where the phrase is in technical use. 

JABEZ. 
Athenaeum Club. 

CRAWLEY AND BURNELL FAMILIES (5 th S. iv. 
429.) Is there a place called Crawley in Hert- 
fordshire ? Clutterbuck does not mention it, nor 
does Adams in his Index Villaris, nor the modern 
Clergy List. 

Thomas Crawley of Nether Crawley, in the 
parish of Luton (Beds), was the father of Sir 
Francis Crawley of the same place, one of the 



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judges in the time of Charles I. There was no 
hereditary title in that branch of the family, 
which is now, I believe, represented by Mr. John 
Sambrooke Crawley of Stockwood Park, in the 
same county. HENRY H. GIBBS. 

St. Dunstau's, Regent's Park. 

A PUNNING BOOK-PLATE (5 th S. iv. 464.) I 
possess one of Mr. Charles Clark's book-plates, 
differing in some degree from the one quoted by 
CUTHBERT BEDE, there being in my copy several 
variatioDs in the text, while the heading runs 
thus, " A Pleader to the Needer when a Keader," 
vice " A Pleader to the Keader not a Heeder." In 
MS. at the foot of my plate is the date 1859. 

Incidentally I may note that my example is 
pasted into a copy of a quaint discourse, " God 
judging among the Gods ; opened in a Sermon 
before the Honourable House of Commons," &c., 
March 26, 1645, by John Ward, Minister of the 
Gospel in Ipswich, and a Member of the Assembly 
of Divines. CRESCENT. 

Wimbledon. 

DERMITIUS O'MEARA (5 th S. iv. 46V.) This 
gentleman was physician to the Butlers, the great 
house of Ormonde. The O'Mearas were heredi- 
tary physicians to the Butlers. There is an 
account of Dermitius O'Meara in the Leaves from 
a Fee- Book of a Physician in the Seventeenth 
Century^ published by the writer hereof in the 
Proceedings of the Eoyal Historical and Archaeo- 
logical Society of Ireland, in illustration of Dr. 
Thomas Arthur Fitzwilliams's Fee-Book of a 
Phijsician, A.D. 1619-1666. 

MAURICE LENIHAN, M.K.I.A. 

Limerick. 

BELL-RINGERS' LITERATURE (5 th S. iv. 62, 153. 
317.) The earliest belfry rules I know of' are 
painted in red and black gothic letters on the wall 
over the staircase-door in the tower at Scotter, 
Lincolnshire, thus : 

" Yow ringers All 
who heare doe fall 
And doe cast over 
a bell doe forfeit 
to the Clarke theirfore 
A G route I doe yow 4 
tell & if yow 
thinck it be to 
little & beare 
A valliant minde 



ymore yow give 
vnto him then 
yow prove to him 
more kinde." 



J. T. F. 



Hatfield Hall, Durham. 

Another version of the lines quoted by A. R., 
with a curious addition, marked below in italics, 
is now to be seen on a tablet on the walls of the 
belfry of Bowden Magna, Leicestershire : 



" If you get Drunk and hither Reel, 
Or with your Brawl Disturb the Peal; 
Or with mumlunc/eous* horrid Smoak, 
You cloud the Room, and Ringers Choak ; 
Or if you dare prophane this Place 
By Oath, or Curse, or Language Base ; 
Or if you shall presume in Peal 
With Hatt, or Coat, or armed Heel ; 
Or turn your Bell in careless way, 
For each Offence shall Two Pence pay ; 
To break these Laws if any hope 
May leave the Bell, and take the Rope. 

EDWARD ENGLEHEKN, Churchwarden. 
N.B. He who plucks his Bell over when turned shall 
pay Six Pence." 

THOMAS NORTH. 
The Bank, Leicester. 

FRANCIS DOUGLAS (5 th S. iv. 487.) I have no 
Douglas pedigrees to examine, but offer MR. 
COTTELL a jotting which may interest him. I. 
possess several books printed by Francis Douglas 
between 1750 and 1760 in Aberdeen, where he 
was a printer, and fed his press partly with his 
own productions. My authority also enables me 
to say that he had a son, most likely of the same 
Christian name, and, residing at a seaport, .the 
latter may have donned the blue jacket, and in 
process of time have become Captain Francis 
Douglas. Whatever his name was, the printer's 
son died in 1827, at the age of eighty-one, and I 
think both father and son would fit into MR. 
COTTELL'S dates. The old printer was a remarkable 
man ; he threw himself into the celebrated Douglas 
cause by writing a pamphlet upholding the winning 
side, for which Lord Archibald Douglas rewarded 
him with a favourable lease of Abbot Inch Farm, 
near Paisley, where he died in 1784 ; and although 
the son was then living, he was succeeded in the 
farm by a son-in-law, which raises the presumption 
that the young Francis,upon my theory, was plough- 
ing the main, and not disposed to turn farmer. 

J. 0. 

"WILTER" (5 th S. iv. 468.) "To wilt or 
ivilter, to wither. These flowers are all wilted. 
South and west." This is what Captain Grose 
says of the word in his Provincial Glossary. I 
never heard it used myself, and I think it may 
fairly be pronounced a " provincialism." 

J. H. I. OAKLEY. 
Wyverby, Melton Mowbray. 

It is sometimes spelt welter. The word is 
commonly used in Cambridgeshire, and also in 
the Isle of Wight. It is to be found in Webster's 
Dictionary, and an example is there given from 
J. Taylor : " Weltered hearts and blighted 
memories." S. N. 

Ryde. 

" Wilt, to lose freshness, to droop ; to make 
flaccid as a green plant, hence to destroy the 



Mundungus, i. e., stinking tobacco. 



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energy or vigour." Globe Dictionary. ^ Wilted, 
shrunk, wasted ; Scotticc, wizzened. Jainieson. 

J. H. 

Stirling. 

Wilier, to fade, wither, is in frequent use in 
Derbyshire in the places near the county town. 
It is said of a child when it frets that it " wilts " 
or is " wilting." THOMAS EATCLIFFE. 

Workaop. 

In my boyhood the word was in common use in 
Berkshire ; and among boys who kept rabbits it 
was a strict rule to give none but wilted leaves to 
the animals for their health's sake. X. P. D. 

It will be found in Halliwell's Dictionary as a 
Buckinghamshire expression. W. T. M. 

Shinfield Grove. 

See Sternberg's Dialect and Folk-lore of North- 
amptonshire. C. D. 

PORTRAIT OF HENRY CLARKE, LL.D. (5 th S. 
iii. 307, 414, 517 ; iv. 318.) I am indebted to 
your correspondents for communications relative 
to this learned mathematician. It is much to be 
wi.shed that his portrait could be found. He was 
in high repute in Manchester and Salford, Liver- 
pool, Bristol, London, and Sandhurst, where suc- 
cessively he dwelt. He died intestate, at Islington, 
in 1818. It was his fate, when proposed, in 1784, 
as a Member of the Royal Society, to be black- 
balled by the President, Sir Joseph Banks, and 
the dilettanti members ; and in the course of the 
angry debate which took place at that time, the 
learned Horsley, afterwards Bishop of Eochester, 
characterized the " low " schoolmaster as " a gentle- 
man of the most unblemished character in life, a 
mathematician of the greatest eminence." 

JOHN E. BAILEY. 

MRS. PRITCIIARD (5 th S. iii. 509 : iv. 296, 431, 
492.) The quotation of " vulgar idiot," &c., is to 
be found in Boswell's Life of Johnson, 1791, 4to. 
ii. p. 408. Pie gives it on the authority of Keinble, 
as used by Johnson in a conversation with Mrs. 
Siddons. It is very probable that Johnson used 
the word idiot, but it is hardly fair to quote the 
expression as a deliberate criticism or opinion of 
Johnson's. It must be remembered that the con- 
versation took place in 1783, within a few months 
of his death, when he was suffering from the effects 
of gout, palsy, & c ., and that his recollections of 
J ntchard's acting and actions thirty years 
before were probably not pleasant. Is it not fair to 
conclude that what he said meant rather " com- 
pared with .Airs. Siddons, Pritchard was a vulgar 
EDWARD SOLLY? 

Because MR. W. WIIISTON cannot find a saying 

of Dr. Johnson's in his five references," he some- 

: hastily concludes it is not in the book, and 



implies a charge of inaccuracy to previous writers, 
myself among the number, by suggesting that the 
words were Walpole's. 

It would be easy to prove, or disprove, any 
statement by such means; but readers of " N. & Q." 
expect, and are accustomed to, greater exactness. 

I cannot give MR. WHISTON a reference to 
Croker's edition of Bos well, but he will find the 
following under date 1783 : 

"Pritchard, in common life, was a vulgar idiot she 
would talk of her gownd but when she appeared upon 
the stage seemed inspired by gentility and understand- 
ing." Boswell's Life of Dr. Johnson, vol. iv. 208, 
ed. 1823. 

I ventured to object to these words, used in 
conversation, being brought forward now as criti- 
cism on an actress who for some eight-and-thirty 
years held a leading position on the boards. 

Whether her brother, Mr. Vaughan, was, or was 
not, assisted by Mrs. Pritchard is now of little 
consequence ; but why does MR. SOLLY say there 
is " no doubt " he was ? The facts point to a dif- 
ferent conclusion, for he appears to have "assisted" 
himself by claiming as co-heir in some property 
left by a Mr. Leonard, the expectation of which 
had partly decided Mrs. Pritchard to retire from 
her profession. See Thespian Dictionary, 1805, 
and Davies, Life of Garrick, ii. 174. MR. 
SOLLY would add to the value of his com- 
munication by giving his authority for the state- 
ment that Alicia Tinclal Palmer was Mrs. 
Pritchard's grand-daughter. CHARLES WYLIE. 

An omission in the index to the fine edition of 
Boswell, mentioned at 5 th S. iv. 492, has led me 
into asking an unnecessary question. I lind that 
Johnson spoke of Mrs. Pritchard as "a vulgar 
idiot," &c., in a conversation with Mrs. Siddons in 
1783, so the resemblance to Waipole's "inspired 
idiot " is accidental. I trusted somewhat too im- 
plicitly to an index I have hitherto found most 
trustworthy. W. WHISTOX. 

. JOHN OF GAUNT'S COAT (5 th S. iv. 445, 494.) 
Without the least desire to disparage John of 
Gaunt's coat, I would suggest that the description 
is suspiciously that of one of the brigandine jackets 
used by archers and foot soldiers in the fifteenth 
and sixteenth centuries. The quilting of canvas 
and string, the lacing down the front, the coming 
no lower than the hips, and the sleeves being 
unattached, are very characteristic of the brigan- 
dine described in Skelton's Meyrick's Arms and 
Armour, vol. i. plate xxxiv., where we have a 
bowman in that costume. Sometimes these 
jackets are made more protective bv small plates 
of iron being quilted in, and the sleeves have these 
small plates also. My impression is, they were 
worn by the inferior grade of soldiers. But 
costume is now so well understood by antiquaries 
that an " expert " would soon decide the point. 



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I hope I am wrong, for I would much rather a 
really curious relic of " time-honoured Lancaster '" 
should be in being than not. P. P. 

In Kirtlington Park, Oxon., there is a pond, now 
nearly filled up, called " Johnny Gaunt's pond," 
in which the villagers say his " spirit " dwells. A 
large ash tree, recently cut down, was also called 
" Johnny Gaunt's tree." Plot says, in his Natural 
History of Oxfordshire (1677), that the manor of 
Kirtlington formed " part of the possessions of the 
kings of England," and by descent " came to John 
of Gaunt." Surely " Johnny Gaunt " must have 
been popular at Kirtlington for his name to be 
handed down these five hundred years. 

G. J. DEW. 

Lower Heyford, Oxon. 

POETS THE MASTERS OF LANGUAGE : LORD 
BYRON (4 th S. xi. 110; 5 th S. iv. 431, 491 ; v. 14.) 
As I entirely disagree with MAKROCHEIR 
(iv. 431), both in his estimate of Lord Byron's 
supreme genius, and as to his or any poet's right 
to sacrifice grammar for. the sake of a rhyme, and 
expect the world to accept it as good English, I 
will ask other of your readers what they think of 
the following use of the word " sung " : 
" The isles of Greece, the isles of Greece ! 

Where burning Sappho loved and sung, 
Where grew the arts of war and peace, 
Where Delos rose, and Phoebus sprung ! " 

Sir Walter Scott uses the words " shall " and 
" will " in his novels very confusedly ; but this 
does not make them have no separate meaning, 
though I venture to think that Scott's genius was 
greater and more original than Byron's. Surely, 
in metaphysical depth and more scholarly treat- 
ment, In Memoriam, Maud, and Lockshy Hall 
outweigh Childe Harold, The Corsair, and Don 
Juan; and I am sure that Tennyson would not 
expect us to follow him in false grammar, if we 
could detect it in his writings. 

ALFRED GATTT, D.D. 

Ecclesfield Vicarage, Sheffield. 

EARLDOM OF WIGTOUN : GYLL AND FLEMYNG 
FAMILIES (5th s> iv> 5 n.)_H. S. G. is quite right 
in his conjecture that the words quoted by him 
ought to have been within brackets. There is no 
acknowledgment of Hamilton Flemyng, as Earl of 
Wigtoun, in the College of Arms. The entry 
referring to him and to his daughter, who married 
William Gyll, when put into narrative form, is as 
follows : 

" Harriet Jane, only surviving daughter of Hamilton 
Flemyng, an officer in the army. He claimed the title 
of Earl of Wigtown, but was found by the Lords' Com- 
mittee of Privileges to have no right to the same." 

GEO. HARRISON, Windsor Herald. 

WOMEN'S RIGHTS (5 th S. iv. 269, 493.) There 
have been female parish clerks, in their own right, 



at Noke,0ddington, Lower Heyford, and, I believe, 
at Souldern, in Oxfordshire. The woman who 
officiated at Lower Heyford was the daughter of 
a parish clerk who was deaf, and for years had 
assisted her father at certain periods of the service 
by a friendly jog. One hapless Sunday afternoon 
the old clerk indulged in a snore, when the accus- 
tomed jog brought out a sonorous " Amen " in the 
middle of the sermon. G. J. DEW. 

Lower Heyford, Oxon. 

AUTHOR WANTED (5 th S. iv. 467, 522.) 
C. H. P. possesses what appears to be a somewhat 
valuable edition of Lord Brooke's works. Lord 
Brooke, better known, perhaps, as Fulke Greville, 
was one of the most prominent political characters 
of his day, and the power which he acquired under 
James I. excited the jealousy of Cecil himself. 
His most important poetical work is Coelica, a 
collection of graceful and unaffected lyrics. Of 
his play of Musiapha, Schlegel (Dram. Art and 
Lit.), after speaking of Sackville's Gorboduc, says : 

" Mustapka, another unsuccessful work of a kindred 
description, and also by a great lord, is a tedious web of 
all sorts of political subtleties; the choruses in particular 
are true treatises." 

Perhaps the best account of Lord Brooke may 
be found prefixed to his works in Grosart's edition, 
in 4 vols., in " The Fuller Worthies' Library." 
GEO. W. NEWALL. 

The book referred to by C. H. P. evidently 
wants the title-page. It is as follows : 

" Certaine Learned and Elegant Workes of the Right 
Honorable Fulke, Lord Brooke, Written in his Youth, 
and familiar Exercise with Sir Philip Sidney." London, 
&c., 1633. 

My copy, which was formerly Southey's, has his 
autograph. After the title-page the work begins, 
as your correspondent says, on p. 23. 

Southey, in his notes in my copy, says : 
" Twenty pages at the beginning of the volume have 
been cancelled. Probably they contained something to 
which the Censor objected. No copy containing them 
lias yet been found." 

Various conjectures have been hazarded as to 
what these pages contained, but no thoroughly 
satisfactory solution has been given, except the 
one in the Biographia Britannica, quoted by Mr. 
Grosart, viz. : 

' That there was prefatory matter, containing a life 
of the author, with fuller details of his murder than his 
friends cared to let the world read." 

G. W. NAPIER. 

Alderley Edge. 

WHIPPING DOGS OUT OF CHURCH (5 th S. iv. 309, 
514.) A curious illustration of the custom of 
.dmitting dogs to churches may. be found in the 
fact that seven out of ten pictures of interiors of 
;hurches favourite subjects with Dutch artists in 
he seventeenth century contain dogs as accom- 



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panying their owners in these sacred edifices. Two 
such pictures are now in the Museum at Bethnal 
Green. I cannot positively recollect a picture 
showing a dog in church during " service time." 
rt Yolgruve" (Youlgreave) Church is nearBakewell 
not in the Peak, as MR. SLEIGH appears to tell 
us. F. G. STEPHENS. 

DEAN SWIFT (5 th S. iv. 328, 397, 434, 497.) 
In Sir Walter Scott's Memoirs of Jonathan Swift, 
prefixed to his works, he distinctly states that "a 
most intimate friend of his own" (the father of 
Lord Kinedder) "declined to see Swifb in his 
dotage by means of privately giving money to his 
servants, but that he did see him through the 
interest of a clergyman." Will your correspon- 
dents give their reasons for disbelieving this clear 
statement ? LINDIS. 

THE PRINCESS SOBIESKI, 1719 (5 th S. v. 9.) 
The escape of the Princess Sobieski from Inn- 
spruck in April, 1719, was arranged and carried 
out by Mr. Charles Wogan, with the assistance of 
Major Misset and his wife, together with Chateau- 
dean, who was gentleman usher to the Princess. 
A full account was published in 1722 by Wogan, 
under the title Female Fortitude exemplified in 
the Narrative of the Seizure, Escape, and Marriage 
of the Princess Clementina Sobiesld, London, 8vo. 
A good general account of the matter is given by 
( '. H. Jesse in The Memoirs of the Pretenders and 
their Adherents, p. 54, Bonn's edit., 1858. Further 
interesting details are to be met with in The Stuart 
Papers, edited by J. H. Glover, 8vo., 1847. A 
letter from Rome, in the Mercure Ilistorique et 
Politiqiu for June, 1719, gives an account of her 
reception at the Quirinal by the Pope, to whom 
she was introduced incognito through the garden, 
and who received her " avec de grandes marques 
de tendresso." EDWARD SOLLY. 

See reference to Sir Charles Woman's work 

X. & Q.," 2a S. v. 11. K . NORGATE. ' 

[Sec also N. & Q.," 4"' S. xi. 104, and CCC. X I 'a 

reference to further particulars to be found in Mr 

Haggard's account of Jacobite medals in the Num 

Ckron., Jbii-st Series, 1839.] 

THE CHILD OF HALE (5* S. iv. 44, 95.) In the 
Lriiard Chamber at Hampton Court there is a por- 
trait by F. Zucchero, which is described in the 
guide-book jus follows : Queen Elizabeth's Por- 
ter in a Spanish dress. He was seven feet six 
aches in height." A note to this states that he 
was the Child of Hale, born Nov. 2, -, buried at 
Me, Lancashire (the property of Ireland Black- 
ie), north about twelve miles from Liverpool." 

Teignmoutl,. EMILY C LE ' 

SIR RICHARD PHILLIPS (o> S. iv. 95, 136, 180.) 
-1, a> well as OLPIIAR HAMST, would ask why 



" alias Sir Philip Eichards " ? There can be no 
doubt as to his name ; if not a native of Leicester, 
he lived there before going to London. I knew 
him by sight myself, and was well acquainted 
with people who had been intimate with him in 
the various stages of his life, while living in Lei- 
cester before his rise in the world, during his 
prosperity, and after his fall. I remember one 
person, who knew something of his circumstances, 
being present when his knighthood was mentioned, 
and he said, " You will soon see him whereas'd." 
This expression I was too young to understand, 
but I found it referred to the advertisement of 
bankruptcy, which formerly began " Whereas a 
commission," &c. ELLCEE. 

Craven. 

THE VICAR or SAVOY (5 th S. iv. 149, 191.) In 
Dr. Littledale's article on " Church Parties," in- 
the Contemporary Review of July, 1874, he refers 
to the Jesuit Lorinus as saying that the " per- 
petual agony of the lost is to be one of the chief 
delights of glorified saints in heaven.' ; Dr. Little- 
dale adds emphatically, " Ugh ! " M. V. 

"THERE WAS AN APE," &c. (5 th S. iv. 149, 218, 
275.) I think MIDDLE TEMPLAR is mistaken 
Avhen he says, " It is great toes to their feet that 
they want," "Hinder thumbs-'' they certainly 
have, and know how to use them ; and it seems 
to me that these may well be called " great toes." 
by courtesy at least, though the beasts are termed 
quadrumana. W. J. BERNHARD SMITH. 

Temple. 

WALKING. ON THE WATER (5 th S. iii. 446, 495 ; 
iv. 17, 276.) 

" To do this, take two little Timbrels, and bind them 
under the soles of thy feet, and at thy stave's end fasten 
another ; and with these you may walk on the water, 
unto the wonder of all such as shall see the same ; if so- 
be you often exercise the same, with a certain. boldneas r 
and lightness of the body." 

" Lightness of the body " would doubtless be a 
very important proviso. A woodcut illustrates the 
process. The above occurs in a curious little book 
entitled 

"Natural and Artificial Conclusions. . . . Englished 
and set forth by Thomas Hill, Londoner, whose own 
Experiments in this kind were held most excellent . . . 
to recreate Wits withal at vacant times. London, 
Printed by A. M. ... 1670." 

Smallest 8vo., black letter. See sig. D 5. 

T. D. 

Exon. 

M'KENZIE FAMILY (5 th S. iv. 248, 377.) The 
only date which I can give with regard to the 
M'Kenzie query is that of the death of the Rev. 
William Garnett, which occurred at Jersey in 1844. 
His age was eighty-four, so that he must have been 
born about the year 1760. W. G. TAUNTON 



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" A NOOK AND HALF YARD OF LAND " (5 th S. 

ili. 408, 453 ; iv. 55.) A "nook" was a quarter 
of a "yard land." Phillips (Diet., ed. 1706) says 
that some reckon a nook the same as a fardel, 
whilst others will have two fardels to make one 
nook. This difference probably arose from the 
varying size of a yard land. Cowel states that the 
yard was sometimes styled a verge of land ; it is 
commonly derived from the Saxon Girdland. In 
the law dictionaries of Cowel and Blount the 
meaning of the word nook is not given, but it may 
be found in Phillips, Bailey, Kersey, Ash, and 
most of the dictionaries of the last century. 

EDWARD SOLLY. 

A " nook " of land is described by Bailey as the 
fourth part of a "yardland." The same author 
says " yardland " is a quantity of land containing 
in some counties twenty, in others twenty-four, 
thirty, and forty acres, but at Wimbledon, in 
Surrey, no more than fifteen. Dr. Dowel's Inter- 
preter says : 

" This yardland, Bracton, lib. ii. cap. 10 and 27, calls 
Virgatam terrac, but expresses no certainty what it 
contains. It is called a verge of land, Anno 28 E. I., 
Statute of Wards. See. Selden's Titles of Honour, fol. 
622." 

JOHN PARKIN. 

Idridgehay, near Derby. 

" PENNY " OR " PENY " (5 th S. iii. 148, 336 ; iv. 
113, 254.) The spelling of this word in the 
Authorized Version of 1611 is by no means 
uniform. In S. Matt. xx. 2, xxii. 18, it is 
" peny " ; in verses 9, 10, and 13 of the former of 
these chapters, and in Eev. vi. 6, " penie " is used ; 
and in S. Mark xii. 15, "penny." "Penniworth" 
occurs in S. Mark vi. 37, and " penyworth " in 
S. John vi. 7. In the marginal explanation given 
at S. Matt, xviii. 28, and S. Mark vi. 37, xii. 15, 
we have " penie," and in that at S. Matt. xx. 2, 
"peny." T. LEWIS 0. DAVIES. 

Pear Tree Vicarage, Southampton. 

" CIVIERS " (5 th S. iv. 288, 472.) Civier occurs 
as a surname in the seventeenth century in the 
parish registers of Oldswinford, Worcestershire. 
I always supposed the family to be of French 
descent. It is sometimes written Sevier. 

H. S. G. 

METAL TOBACCO PIPES (5 th S. iv. 328, 495.) 
Among the Ashantee spoils exhibited lately at 
South Kensington Museum were to be seen one or 
two very handsome tobacco pipes, both bowl and 
stem being formed out of pure African gold. 

CRESCENT. 

Wimbledon. 



NOTES ON BOOKS, &o. 

Animal Parasites and Messmates. By P. J. Van Bene- 
den. With Thirty-three Illustrations. (H. S. King & 
Co.) 

THE above is the twentieth volume of the International 
Scientific Series, and the accomplished professor at the 
University of Louvain may rest assured that he will have 
grateful, if often startled, public. There is as much 
amusement to be derived from Prof. Beneden's pages as 
there is instruction. The last page recommends the 
preservation of the Masked Reduvius (Reduvius perso- 
natus), as it is the fiercest enemy of " one species, the 
name of which may be readily guessed Acanthia lectu- 
laria " ; but where there is scrupulous cleanliness in a 
household there would be no coign of vantage for these 
two dirty adversaries. 

A History of Eton College, 14401875. By H. C. Max- 
well Lyte, M.A. With Illustrations by P. L. Dela- 
motte, &c. (Macmillan & Co.) 

THIS book may be best described by saying that it is 
splendid externally and internally. It would be diffi- 
cult to excel Mr. Lyte in his qualifications for the au- 
thorship of such a work. His narrative, some of it 
including much important history, is attractive from 
beginning to end. The type is some thing "comfortable" 
for any eye to contemplate ; the paper as satin to the 
touch ; the illustrations of the best artistic quality; and 
the binding original, and in the very best taste. Much 
has been written about Etonians, and very well written 
too ; but Eton College itself has never had so graceful 
and perfect a chronicler as now, in the person of Mr. 
Lyte. 

Queen Mary. Two old Plays, by Decker and Webster, 
and Thomas Heywood. Newly Edited by William 
John Blew, with a Prefatory Essay on the Relations 
of the Old and Modern Dramas in this Chapter of 
History. (Pickering.) 

HERE are two old plays, The Famous History of Sir Thomas 
Wyatt, and tbat very singular drama, // you Know not 
Me, you Know Nobody ; or, the Troubles of Queen Eliza- 
beth. The latter bas been recently reprinted in Ger- 
many. They afford opportunity for comparison with 
Mr. Tennyson's Queen Mary, and the two books may be 
bound together. Mr. Slew's essay will repay perusal, 
and it sbould be read after the two old plays and a re- 
reading of the Poet Laureate's. 

The Lancashire Library : a Bibliographical Account of 
Books on Topography, Biography, History, Science, 
and Miscellaneous Literature relating to the County 
Palatine. Including an Account of Lancashire 
Tracts, Pamphlets, and Sermons Printed before the 
Year 1720; with Collations, and Bibliographical, 
Critical, and Biographical Notes on the Books and 
Authors. By Lieut. -Col. Henry Fish wick, F.S.A. 
(Routledge & Sons.) 

ALL that the above copious title-page promises or im- 
plies is perfectly accomplisbed in the succeeding pages. 
Col. Fishwick has rendered most valuable and important 
service, not merely t the County Palatine, but to the 
literature of England generally. The necessary labour 
must have been enormous, and none seems to have been 
spared in order to give inquirers all tbe information that 
could be got together of authors, works, and the selling 
price of the latter, connected with the important shire 
of Lancaster. 

First Book of Zoology. By Edward S. Morse, M.D. 

(H. S. King & Co.) 
" CE n'est que le premier pas qui coute," and for want 



NOTES. AND QUERIES. [5* s. v. JAN. s, 76. 



of help to make a first step safely in the study of any 
ience the student is often kept from making ^wgiew. 
Tii. Mnrsp understanding youthful folk atniisc i' 
knowX; bT. 3 just such a work as young 
zoologists require in this Ftrat Book. 
WW< of their Own. Curious, Eccentric, and Benevolent. 
GrilSted "and Arranged by William Tegg. (Tegg & 

are a hundred and odd pages of matters grave 



only for amusement. 

AUTHORS AND QUOTATIONS WANTED (5 th S. v. 19.) 
" The glowing portraits, fresh from life, that bring 
Home to the heart," &c. 

From Byron's Monody on the Death of Sheridan. 
" Deep sighted in intelligences, 
Ideas, atoms, influences." 

Hudibras, part i. c. 1. 1. 533. 
F. RULE. 

" The Spring returns," &c. 
The po^rn inquired for is an Elegy, written in Spring, 
1 y Michael Bruce (born 1746), shortly before his death, 
July, 1767, and beginning, " Tis past: the iron North 
has spent his rage." The sixteenth verse is this : 
" Now, Spring returns : but not to me returns 

The vernal joy my better years have known; 
Pirn in my breast life's dying taper burns, 

And all" tin- joys of life with health are flown." 
Seven verses follow. Separated from the earlier verses, 
' Now Spring returns " was set to music by '' A Lady " 
before the close of the century. A printed copy is in the 
British Museum collection of English songs, press-mark 
(. 796. The poem, an interesting relic of poor Bruce, 
is in Sharpe's British Poets, Iv. 1U. J. W . E. 

Molash, by Ashford, Kent. 

Surely .Milton's lines (Paradise Lost, bk. iii. 40^ 
beginning, " Thus with the year," musr, be the DAD of 
D. A. D.'s (j h S. v. 19} ; if not, the relationship is a very 
close one. F. RULE. 

AN OLD CAROL (;? ;i S. v. 9.) This carol is too long t( 

quote in full ; it is printed in TLe Mtvric Heart: a Col 

l<:tion of Favourite Nursery Rfaniits ly M. E. G 

(London, Cassell, Fetter & Gaipin). HETTY F. 

See Halliwell's Nursery Rhymes. H. 

DEATH <JF Vv'. DURRANI COOPER, F.S.A. It is witl 
deep regret that we have to record the death of one o 
the curliest contributors to these columns, MR. W. DUE, 
IJAXT Co. TEH, which took place on the 28th ult. MR 
Coi.-1'HR. had for many years taken an active and usefu 
part in the management of the Camden and other lite 
rary and antiquaiiin societies, and hud edited variou 
books for them, lie was one of the promoters of th 
busFex Archieological Society, in the welfare of which h 
to')k great interest, and was a contributor of many valu 
able articles to the Mtssex Archaeological Journal on 
of the most important of our local antiquarian journal 
His Susses Glosfary and his History of Winchelsea fu 
nigh other proofs ot the interest he took in the literal' 
illustration of his native county, where his name will Ion 
be remembered with regard, as it will among a larg 
c.rcle of London friends. 

" CHELTENHAM CHRISTMAS VERSES " (5" 1 S. iv. 504.) 
These verses, Raid by our correspondent W. B. STRU 
NELL to be sung annually at the door of every house 
Cheltenham, have, since they were in type, recalled 
memory aoine of the literature of childhood, and we fin 



hem quoted by Miss Edgeworth (in Rosamond). See 
ucy Aikin's Poetry for Children. The original Robin s 
>etition has considerably suffered in the words taken 
ottn " from a sturdy country boy." As to another fact, 
he editor of the able local paper, The Cheltenham Mer- 
ury says : "We venture to assert that the ' oldest m- 
ab'i'tant,' if he could be asked to corroborate the assertion 
mt the ' carol is sung at the door of every house in this 
,wn at Christmas-tide,' would say that his memory must 
e very defective, as it was never sung within his remem- 
rance." 

MESSRS. CIIATTO & WINDUS have accomplished a note- 
worthy task They have published a fac-simile of the 
olio edition of Shakspeare of 1623. One copy of the 
ritual was sold for 7001. The fac-simile costs but a 
ew shillings. The type is small, but legible ; and the 
whole thing is marvellous as a curiosity, and very much 
o be desired for a possession. 

A NEW edition of The Jngold.ily Legends, in three 
legant portable volumes, has been issued by Mr. Bent- 
ey. It will puzzle him, next year, to produce another 
nore tasteful and gem-like than this. 



to 

ON all communications should be written the name and 
address of the sender, not necessarily for publication, but 
is a guarantee of good faith. 

JABEZ. Charles Edward, the "Young Pretender," 
seated his illegitimate daughter, by Miss Walkenshaw ? 
Duchess of Albany. The Duchess died unmarried ia 
L789, the year after her father's death. The living 
Jharles Edward Stuart is not old enough to claim _to be 
er son ; and if he were, it would not help him in his 
claim to be the legitimate representative of the true 
prince, Charles Edward. 

CHICHELE FAMILY. Some correspondents may be 
.nterested in the following extract from the book cata- 
logue of Mr. Brough of Birmingham : " Genealogical 
Account of the Families derived from Thomas Chichele, 
of Highara Ferrers, in the Co. of Northampton. 4to.> 
plates, and nearly 300 Pedigrees of Families, old calf, 
10s. 6d. Privately printed, 1765." 

W. F. (Bury St. Edmunds.) All that is wanted now, 
with regard to " Not lost, but gone before," is an earlier 
instance of similar words previous to that afforded in the 
epitaph on Mary Angell, who died 1693 (" N. & Q.," 5 tk 
S. iv. 527). 

CANTAB. Swift's Meditation upon a Broomstick, 
according to the Style and Manner of the Hon. Robert 
Boyle s Meditations, is to be found in all editions of 
Sw'ift's works. See also Mr. Forster's Life of Swift, 
vol. i. p. 219. 

IF BETA (5 th S. v. 9) will communicate with me, I can 
perhaps help him as to the latter part of his query. 
11. Bloxam, County Chambers, Exeter. 

A. L. G. See "N. & Q.," 5 th S. iv. 451. 
W. G. B. Already recorded. 

N. B. W. Next week. 

B. E. N. Accept our warmest thanks. 

NOTICE. 

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LONDON, SATURDAY, JANUARY IS, 1876. 



CONTENTS. N 107. 

NOTES : Tennyson and Shelley, 41 The French State Paper 
Office Milton's Forestry, 43 Mrs. Binckes, a Daughter of 
the Princess Olive The Mantis, or Hottentot God, 44 New 
Zealander Hey wood: Athenteus, 45 The Executioner of 
Charles I. "Gramercy" Etymology of "Golden," co. 
Tipperary Parallels : Bunyan and Masillon, 46. 

QUERIES : " The Practice of Piety "Rev. Birch, Rector 
of Houghton Conquest, Bedford, 47 Llewelyn ap Griffith 
and his Descendants Heraldic Sir B. Wrench, M.D. 
Silver Plate Pre-Beformation Church Plate Thomas 
Brewer " Gray's Inn Guinea " Need Fire Heraldic 
Hieronymus David" The Society of Blue and Orange," 48 
"The bishop's had his foot in it" Manorial Courts 
The Scavenger's Office in the Seventeenth Century Swinton 
Family Raleigh's MSS., 49. 

REPLIES : " The Buffs," 49-" Calcies" Poets the Masters 
of Language Gipsies : Tinklers Knights Templars, 52 
"Sauuagina": "Bersandum," 53 Leases for 99 or 999 
Years "Carpet knight "Canon Law The Humming-Top 
Heraldic, 54 Louise Lateau "Do unto others," &c. The 
Obligations of Executors The Die-Sinkers and Artists in 
Medals of the Seventeenth and Eighteenth Centuries in 
Great Britain, 55 E. S. Pery, M.P. Skikelthorpe Wil- 
liam, third Earl of Pembroke Arabella Fitz-james The 
Charterhouse Will-o'-the- Wisp " Ness " : To Lamm, 56 
Horngarth The Origin and Symbolism of the Car- 
dinal's Red Hat "Luncheon" Lord Lytton's "King 
Arthur," 57 llfracombe Treenware Monumental Inscrip- 
tions in Norman- French, 58. 

Notes on Books, &c. 



TENNYSON AND SHELLEY. 
Is the parallelism pointed out by MR. BULLEN 
(5 th S. iv.- 464) more than one of many indications 
of the influence exercised over the mind of our 
Laureate, when young, by Shelley ? In the margin 
of my copy I have noted many such, starting from 
his first published work. The Chorus, in the 
Poems, 1830, re-echoes Shelley's poem on Death : 
"The subtle life, the countless forms 
Of living things, the wondrous tones 
Of man and beast, are full of strange 
Astonishment and boundless change." 

Tennyson. 

" All that is great and all that is strange 
In the boundless realm of unending change." 

Shelley. 
Tennyson's No More, 

" Oh sad wo more ! oh sweet no more ! 
Oh strange no move! 
***** 

Surely all pleasant things had gone before, 
Low buried fathoms-deep beneath with tbee, 
No MORE ! " 

forcibly reminds one of Shelley's Lament, of 
which here is the last stanza : 
" Out of the day and night 

A joy has taken flight : 
Fresh spring and summer and winter hoar 
Move my faint heart with grief, but with delight 
No more oh, never more ! " 

Tennyson's Kraken, "battening on huge sea- 



worms in his sleep," recalls the Demogorgon's 
words in Prometheus Unbound " the dull weed 
some sea- worm battens on." In The Poet, 1830, 
Tennyson writes : 

" Wisdom a name to shake 
Hoar anarchies as with a thunder-fit." 

This recalls the " tempest-cleaving swan " of 
Shelley's lines in the Euganean hills, who drank 
the ocean's joy till it became his 

"And sprung 

From his lips like music flung 

O'er a mighty thunder-fit, 

Chastening terror." 

The Poet's Mind affords another illustration 
" Clear and bright it should be ever," says Tenny- 
son ; " bright as light, and clear as wind." Com- 
pare Shelley's The Sunset: 

" There late was one, within whose subtle being, 
As light and wind within some delicate cloud, 
***** 

Genius and Death contended." 

But a more remarkable coincidence occurs between 
a passage of the same poem and some lines in the 
PrometJieus Unbound: 

" In the heart of the garden the merry bird chants, 
***** 

In the middle leaps a fountain, 
Like sheet lightning 
Ever brightening, 
With a low melodious thunder. 
All day and night it is ever drawn 

From the brain of the purple mountain 
Which stands in the distance yonder ; 
It springs on a level of bowery lawn," &c. 

Tennyson. 
Shelley thus sings : 

" And a fountain 

Leaps in the midst with an awakening sound. 
From its curved roof the mountain's frozen tears 
***** 

Hang downward, raining forth a doubtful light, 
And there is heard the ever-moving air 
Whispering without from tree to tree, and birds 
And bees ; and all around are mossy seats, 
And the rough walls are clothed with long soft gra?s." 
Prometheus Unbound, iii. 3. 

Familiar passages from Tennyson's Mermaid 
and Merman are recalled by these lines from the 
Prometheus Unbound: 

" Behold the Nereids under the green sea, 

* * * * * 

Their white arms lifted o'er their streaming hair, 
With garlands pied and starry seaflower crowns." 

The "crowns of sea-birds white" are alluded 
to in Shelley's Eosalind and Helen. Again, in 
Tennyson's Eleanore, 

" My heart a charmed slumber keeps, 

***** 

And a languid fire creeps 
Through my veins to all my frame, - . . 

Dissolvingly and slowly, 

and then, as in a swoon, 

With dinning sound my ears are rife, 



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[5 th S. V. JAN. 15, 76. 



My tremulous tongue faltereth, 
I lose my colour, 1 lose my breath, 
I drink the cup of a costly death 
Brimmed with, delirious draughts of warmest life, 
I die with my delight," &c. 

we have something very like an echo of Shelley s 
poem To Constantia: 
" MY brain is wild, my breath comes quick, 

The blood is listening in my frame, 
And thronging shadows, fast and thick, 

Fall on my overflowing eyes ; 
My heart is quivering like a flame, 
As morning dew in the sunbeam lies, 
I am dissolved in these consuming ecstasies.' 
It is true that such passages belong very much 
to that section of imaginative composition which 
the " ingenious Mr. Dousterswive) " thought it 
would be possible to construct by machinery, and 
are to some extent the property of all poets. We 
have the same thought in Keats : 

"'Twastolive 

To take in draughts of life from the gold fount 
Of kind and passionate looks." Endymion. 
The simile in Fatinw ("as sunlight drinketh 
dew") is identical with that in Shelley's Hellas, 
" As the sun drinks the dew." Widely dissimilar 
as the poems are, some curious points of resem- 
blance may be traced in the Palace of Art and 
Peter BdL Though with a different application. 
Tennyson's metaphor, 

" A star that with the choral starry dance 
Joined not, but stood," 

is to be found in Shelley's Epipsychidion : 

' A star 
"Which, moves not in the moving heavens, alone." 

The phrase " softer than sleep " of the Palace of 
Art also occurs in Shelley's Rosalind and Helen, 
though, of course, it is a thought as old as the hills : 

" Muscosi fontes. et somno mollior hsrba." 

Virgil, Ed. vii. 45. 

The quotations would stretch too far, but a 
comparison of the close of the Lotos-Eaters with 
Shelley's Eci'olt of lilam. i. 29, viii. 5, is in- 
structive. 

The epilogue to the fragment, Mort d' Arthur, 

" On to dawn, when dreams 
Ba^in to feel the truth and stir of day," 

U like Shelley's H dlas: 

' The truth of day lightens upon my dreams." 
Compare The G rdcnt t j s Daughter, 
" And in her bosom bore the baby, Sleep," 
with Shelley's Queen Mo.b: 

" On their lids 

The Laby Sleep is pillowed." 

There are points of resemblance, too, which 
suggest that the germ of the noble poem Locksley 
J/aftmaybe found in Shelley's " Stanzas, April, 
1814." In each poem we have the hall, the moor- 
laud, the rapid clouds flying round it, the abrupt 
and effective transition to the "serene lights of 



heaven," the recurrence to bygone love, the lover 
wronged and indignant ; in each the fair one sacri- 
fices love to duty ; in each the betrayed lover 
prophesies that memory shall be her curse, the 
phantom of happier things remembered shall come 
and go like dim shades, and that peace will be im- 
possible for the memory of 

The music of two voices and the light of one sweet smile." 
" Our spirits rushed together at the touching of the 

lips/' 
in Loclcsley Hall, is like 

'' When soul meets soul on lovers' lips," 
in the Prometheus Unbound. 

The nightingale who (Poet's Song) 

' Thought, I have sung many songs, 
But never a one so gay, 
For he sings of what the world will be 
When the years have died away," 
might have been suggested again by the Pro- 
metheus Unbound, ii. 2, where we read of 
" Those wise and lovely songs . . . 
Of the chained Titan's woful doom ; 
And how he shall be loosed, and make the earth. 
One brotherhood : delightful strains, which charm 
To silence the unenvying nightingales." 
My note has already grown to such a length that 
I am ashamed of it. I will only add one or two 
instances from the poem from which MR. BULLED 
quotes, the Princess : 

1. 

" Bland the smile, that like a wrinkling wind 
On glassy water drove his cheek in lines." 

Princess, i. 

" O'er the visage wan 
Of Athanase, a ruffling atmosphere 
Of dark emotion, a swift shadow ran, 
Like wind upon some forest-bosomed lake 
Glassy and dark." Shelley, Prince Athanase. 

o 

" They were still together, grew 
(For so they said themselves) inosculated, 
Consonant chords that shiver to one note." 

Princess, iii. 

" We are we not formed, as notes of music are, 
For one another, though dissimilar 1 ? " 

Shelley, Epipsyclddion. 

3. 

" Since to look on noble forms 
Makes noble, through the sensuous organism, 
That which is higher." Princess, ii. 72. 
< f Sob.e, 

With soul-sustaining songs and sweet debates 
Of ancient lore, there fed his lonely being. 
The mind becomes that which it contemplates ; 
And thus Zonoras, by for ever seeing 
Their bright creations, grew like wisest men." 

Shelley, Prince Athanase, ii. 

4. 

" A doubtful smile dwelt like a clouded moon 
In a still water." Princess, vi. 

" His wan eyes 

Gaze on the empty scene as vacantly 
As ocean's moon looks on the moon in heaven." 

Shelley, Alastor. 



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43 



5. 
" If she be small, slight-natured, miserable, 

How shall men grow ] " Princess, vii. 
" Can man be free if woman be a slave ? " 

Shelley, Revolt of Islam, ii. 

It would be easy enough, no doubt, to extend 
these quotations. I only give what have occurred 
to me from occasional readings of the poets, of 
both of whom, like MR. BULLEN, I am an ad- 
mirer. 

It can scarcely be needful to say that I have no 
desire to suggest a charge of plagiarism. No 
doubt the same parallelism might be illustrated 
from the works of any one who has been at the 
same time a wide and appreciative reader and a 
writer. MOTH. 

THE FRENCH STATE PAPER OFFICE. 
Histoire du Depot des Archives des Affaires Etrangcres 
a Paris au Louvre en 1710, <l Versailles en 1763, et de 
nouvcau a Paris en Divers Endroits depuis 1796. Par 
Armand Baschet. 8vo. Paris, Plon. 
(Third Article.) 

The second book of M. Armand Baschet's vo- 
lume takes us to Versailles, where the Duke de 
Choiseul transferred the Foreign State Paper 
Office. Celebrated by his liberal tendencies, and 
by his constant opposition to Madame Dubarry 
opposition which brought about his disgrace 
Choiseul was in every respect a most distinguished 
man ; and, as our author remarks, he well deserves 
to be taken as the subject of some carefully pre- 
pared biography, for which materials are not want- 
ing. His early education had been neglected, and 
he was not naturally of a studious disposition ; 
but, when circumstances placed him amidst the 
difficulties of political life, he devoted his atten- 
tion to history, and ever afterwards he encouraged, 
by every means in his power, those persons who 
showed any talent for historical researches. Fully 
understanding the importance of bringing together 
all the documents bearing upon the foreign rela- 
tions of France, he gave the necessary orders for 
the building, furnishing, and decoration of an 
office at Versailles, and the works were completed 
with a rapidity which seems perfectly astonishing. 
Transferred from Paris in 1763, the Archives des 
Affaires Etrangeres remained at Versailles till 1796, 
when Charles Delacroix, Minister of Foreign Affairs, 
ordered them to be moved back again to the 
capital. 

One of the most important events connected 
with this portion of history is the appointment of 
M. Durand de Ditroff as keeper of the Foreign 
State Paper Office instead of M. Le Dran. The 
nomination took place in 1762, and having been 
designated to accompany the French ambassador, 
the Duke de Nivernais, to London, M. Durand 
conceived the excellent idea of examining the 
enormous quantity of historical documents, char- 
ters, title-deeds, letters, &c., relating to France, 



and preserved cither in the Tower or elsewhere. 
The occupation of Normandy and Guienne by the 
English, during the fifteenth century, had natu- 
rally placed in the possession of the conqueror a 
number of state papers very valuable in their 
character, and which were equally interesting to 
France and to England. Would it not be possible 
to obtain leave to catalogue those papers, sort 
them, copy them, and perhaps obtain the gift of a 
few of the originals ? From M. Durand's letter, 
published by M. Baschet, it appears that the Eng- 
lish Government, whilst refusing to part with any 
of the documents themselves, were disposed to 
entertain favourably the rest of the demand ; and 
the final issue was a mission entrusted to M. de 
Brequigny, who, under the direction of the Duke 
de Choiseul- Praslin, visited this country twice, and 
took back to France a rich harvest of historical 
documents, filling no less than ninety large port- 
folios. The Rccueil des Ordonnances, the Table 
Chronologiquc des Chartes concernant I'Histoire de 
France, &c., maybe named amongst the most note- 
worthy results of M. de Brequigny's scientific tour, 
accounts of which have been given by MM. Cham- 
pollion-Figeac, Jules Delpit, Leopold Delisle, and 
Louis Paris, to say nothing of the compte-rendu 
which the explorer contributed to the Transactions 
of the Academie des Inscriptions et Belles Lettres 
(vol. xxvii.). 

Anquetil and Lemontey are the two most dis- 
tinguished writers whom we can name in connexion 
with the Eevolutionary period of the Depot des 
Affaires Etrangeres ; they were freely admitted to 
study and copy the documents accumulated at 
Versailles, and made excellent use of their oppor- 
tunities. GUSTAVE MASSON. 

Harrow. 



MILTON'S FORESTRY. 

The Times of Dec. 20, 1875, in a review of a 
book upon forest trees,* has given prominence to 
a statement of some errors in forestry said to be 
committed by Milton. With your permission, I 
will essay a reply to the attack. I copy from the 
Times. " Thus " (says the reviewer) 

" Milton's Penseroso, wandering in 

' Arched walks of twilight groves 
And shadows brown that Sylvan loves 
Of pine or monumental oak,' 

has hitherto met with general approval, but Mr. Menzies 
will have none of him. ' No reason is known why the 
oak should be called " monumental," and the whole pas- 
sage is rather confused. Pines and oaks seldom grow 
together naturally. The soil which produces on'e tree 
would not suit the other, and neither of them is remark- 
able for giving " arched walks " or " shadows brown." ' 
But what Mr. Menzies thinks to be, perhaps, the poet's 
two weakest lines, 



* Forest Trees and Woodland Scenery, as described in- 
Ancient and Modern Poets. By W. Menzies. (Long- 
mans. ) 



NOTES AND QUERIES. [5- s. v. JAN. 15, 76. 



Under the shady roof 



eads against such condemnation. The elm, says 
r Menzies ' is one of the thinnest fohaged trees of 
the' forest After the first flush of spring the leaves 
be-in to fadet many drop, and long before the autumn 
they be-in to' shrivel, and present anything but a star- 
prwf canopy-' This/however, is not the most severe 
Stee of critkism in the volume. Few passages in Parade 
Lost are better known than the famous comparison of 
the fallen Archangel to a tree blasted by lightning : 

' As when Heaven's fire 

Hath scathed the forest oaks or mountain pines 
With singed top their stately growth though bare 
Stands on the blasted heath.' 

It is not clear, says Mr. Menziea, whether the poet 
means that the lightning singes the tops of both oaks 
and i.ines, or only those of the latter tree ; but in either 
case he is false to Nature. The oak, indeed, is liable to 
a sort of baldness, alluded to by Shakspeare, but the 
lightning never singes its top. It either shivers the tree 
to atoms, or cuts one long deep furrow down the stems, 
or divides into three or four grooves, twisting and making 
the trunk like a corkscrew." 

Now (to take the points in order), Keightley 
tells us the oak is called " monumental " because 
monuments in churches are often formed of carved 
oak. He cites 

" Smooth as monumental alabaster," 

Othello, v. 2, 

and says Milton probably had in mind " the builder 
oak " of Chaucer and Spenser, and wished to en- 
hance on it ; and that nothing, besides, was more 
suitable to the Penseroso than to think of the 
most solemn use to which the oak was put. I pass 
by Mr. Menzies's opinion that " the whole passage 
is rather confused," and come to the statement 
that " pines and oaks seldom grow together natu- 
rally." Milton does not say they do. But there 
is authority for saying that the pine will grow in 
every description of soil and situation, though it 
thrives best in good timber soil. It might, there- 
fore, well grow beside the oak, which will also 
grow in every variety of soil. Possibly Milton 
here speaks of the ilex or holm-oak a monumental 
tree in another sense, for Pliny mentions some as 
existing in his time which must have been 1,400 
or l,5(i() years old, and one of which had brazen 
letters in the ancient Etruscan character fixed 
upon its trunk. The ilex may have been known 
to Milton through books, for he was a great reader 
of books of travel ; and he may have seen it, for it 
appears to have been introduced into England 
about the middle of the sixteenth century. Both 
the pine and the ilex tend to form "arched walks" 
by their freedom from low boughs and by their 
dense upper foliage. It is noticeable that the 
poet chooses the pine and the oak, and never men- 
tions the yew, though every time he entered the 
church at Horton he must have seen two fine trees 
of this kind ; which favours Keightley's explana- 
tion. But there are, or were, several oaks in 



Windsor Forest, within a walk of Horton, which 
are " monumental " in the ordinary sense of the 
word. Keightley also tells us the word " brown " 
is used in the sense of the Italian bruno, dark. So 
far upon the Penseroso. Now for the Arcades. 
The weak point of the objection here is that the 
objector fails to see that the description is specific, 
and not arbitrary. The meaning is 

Under this shady roof 

Of branching elm starproof 

Follow me, 

i. e. (probably) under the elm avenue at Harefield, 
called " the Queen's Walk," in honour of Queen 
Elizabeth's visit to the Lord Keeper and Countess 
of Derby at the end of July, 1602. 

In the simile from Paradise Lost, and elsewhere, 
Milton very justly uses the oak and pine to express 
majesty and strength. He is, besides, happy here 
in his choice of the oak, since it probably is more 
often scathed by lightning than any other tree. 
The "singed top" is perhaps less defensible. I 
am not, however, concerned to prove Milton an 
infallible writer on forestry, but merely to see 
justice done him, if he be judged, even by the 
Deputy Keeper of the Parks and Forests of 
Windsor. J. L. WALKER. 



MRS. BINCKES, A DAUGHTER OF THE PRINCESS 
OLIVE. In a private and confidential letter 
which is now before me, which does not relate in 
the remotest degree to Mrs. Serres or her claims, 
but contains references to many public and political 
personages, mention is made of a " Mrs. Binckes, 
who was a daughter of the Princess Olive, and 
thereby related to the Eoyal Family." From 
another passage in the same letter, which is dated 
in 1871, it appears that Mrs. Binckes had, some 
time previously, retired to the Continent. As 
a perusal of the letter leaves little doubt that 
Mrs. Binckes claimed to be a daughter of the 
Princess Olive, and the writer believed her to be 
so, I "make a note" of it for Mr. Thoms's infor- 
mation. M. L. 



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THE MANTIS, OR HOTTENTOT GOD. The late 
lamented Dr. Bleek's notes on Bushman Folk-lore 
throw a great deal of light on the mythology 
and traditions of that curious but almost extinct 

ople, especially on the subject of the mantis 
Mantis prccaria of naturalists). As far back as 
the time of Kolben, the veneration of the Hottentot 
races (with whom he confounds the Bushmen) was 
well known, and they were supposed to worship it. 
It is an insect of a bright green colour, belonging 
to a family of orthopterous insects, holds up its 
forelegs as if in the act of prayer, and can hardly 
be distinguished from the plant on which it 
rests. Dr. Bleek, in his last report on Bushman 
Folk-lore (Cape Town, 1875), says of it : 



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"Although the mantis is apparently the most pro- 
minent figure in Bushman mythology, and, at all events, 
the subject of the greatest number of myths, yet it does 
not seem that he is the object of any worship or that 
prayers are addressed to him." 

The heavenly bodies, sun, moon, and stars, are, 
however, prayed to, and thus the Bushmen are 
clearly to be included among the nations who 
have attained to sidereal worship. The Bushmen 
consider that the sun is a man from whose armpit 
brightness proceeded, and who lived formerly on 
earth, but only gave light for a space around his own 
house. Some children belonging to the first Bush- 
men were, therefore, sent to throw up the sleeping 
sun into the sky. Since then he shines all over 
the earth. In Bushman mythology the moon is 
looked upon as a man who incurs the wrath of the 
sun, and is consequently pierced by the knife, i.e., 
the rays of the latter. This process is repeated 
until almost the whole of the moon is cut away 
and only one little piece left, which the moon 
piteously begs the sun to spare, for his children's 
sake. From this little piece the moon gradually 
grows again till it becomes a full moon, when the 
sun's cutting and stabbing processes recommence. 

The dasse or hyrax, the Bible coney of the rocks, 
is called by the Bushmen the wife of the mantis, 
and the porcupine their adopted daughter, who 
has a son, the ichneumon, who plays an important 
part in Bushman mythology. 

Another curious myth is that the moon is formed 
of an old shoe of the mantis, which he threw into 
the sky with an order that it should become the 
moon. Thus the moon is red because the shoe 
of the mantis was covered with the red dust of 
Bushman land, and cold because it is only leather. 

Some think that the mantis misleads Bushmen 
by putting evil ideas in their heads. Bushmen 
women use a curious charm, made from the foot of 
the hartbeest, for their children, as a protection 
against the mantis. 

Many other curious traditions are found in Dr. 
Bleek's researches, but they require the use of a 
peculiar type to properly illustrate them. 

H. HALL. 

Lavender Hill. 

NEW ZEALANDER. This famous allusion of 
Macaulay's I remember to have seen traced to 
Shelley, but it appears to have belonged no more 
to Shelley than to Macaulay. Happening to look 
into the Monthly Review, 1780, Ixii. 128, I came 
upon the notice of a book of poems published in 
that year, with a couple of extracts of verse from 
it and a few remarks, amongst which occurs the 
following sentence : 

" A Bostonian is supposed to visit the ruins of London ; 
a poor emaciated Briton, who officiates as Cicerone, is 
his attendant." 

The title of the book is given in full as follows, 
from which it appears that the ruined portico of 




St. Paul's is the site of meditation, and not the 
broken arch of London Bridge : 

" Poems by a young nobleman, of distinguished 
abilities, lately deceased, particularly the state of Eng- 
land, and the once flourishing city of London. In a 
letter from an American traveller, dated from the ruinous 
portico of St. Paul's in the year 2199, to a friend settled 
in Boston, the metropolis of the Western Empire. Also 
sundry fugitive pieces, principally wrote whilst upon his 
travels on the Continent. 4to. 2s. 6d. Kearsly, 1780." 

There was a very clever book published in 
French, styled L'An Deux Milk Quatre Cent 
Quarante: Meve s'il en fut jamais. I do not know 
in what year it first appeared, but an edition was 
given in London, 1773. It is evident that the 
above vision of the year 2199 was suggested 
by the French book. The vision in the last 
chapter of the French book treats of the ruin of 
Versailles, " ce palais superbe, d'ou partoient les 
destinees de plusieurs nations"; the seer treads 
amongst its ruined basins and fallen columns, and, 
wandering, meets a man of contrite air in tears. 
"Why weep," he cries, "when all the world is happy ? 
This wretched relic testifies to nothing but the 

gardens were 
replied the wan- 
who built this 
woe-stricken palace : ' Je pleure et je pleurerai 
toujours/ " Our Frenchman was about to reply to 
the kingly shade when an adder sprang from the 
stump of a column on which it lay coiled ; it stung 
him in the neck, and he awoke. 

I suppose that all the foregoing must be known 
to some readers, but I have never yet seen the 
facts placed in connexion with the celebrated 
simile of the New Zealander, so that possibly it 
may be worth chronicling in " N. & Q." This 
suggests a work worthy of the labour of a man 
of wide reading, viz. The Growth of Fables, Illus- 
trations, and Similes in Universal Literature, from 
the Earliest Times to the Present Century. It is 
manifest that some similes develope according to 
the same law that governs the growth of national 
melodies, by change of note, by fall and turn of 
bar or key, by spontaneous change in recital at the 
advent of every fresh genius, suggestion being 
caught from suggestion. C. A. WARD. 

Mayfair. 

HEYWOOD : ATHEN^EUS. It has not been 
pointed out, so far as I know, that the amusing 
passage in Hey wood's English Traveller, describing 
the " shipwreck by drink," is also related in Athe- 
nseus (Deipnosoph. lib. ii. sect, v.), where it is 
quoted from Timseus of Tauromenium. Casau- 
bon's edition of Atheneeus came out in 1597, and 
again, with a Latin translation, in 1600. The 
edition of 1600 was probably in Hey wood's hands 
when writing this passage, which, according to 
Charles Lamb, "for its life and humour might 
have been told or acted by Petruchio himself." 



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[5 th S. V. JAN. 15, 76. 



It is possible that I may have been anticipated m 
my remarks by the late Mr. Dyce, whose un- 
finished translation of Athenreus is now among 
his books at the South Kensington Museum, and, 
as I learn from Mr. Forster's biographical sketch 
of Dyce in this month's Fortnightly, in a state not 
far from completion. I have myself not yet had 
an opportunity of examining this translation. 

A. H. BULLEN. 
Worcester College, Oxford. 

AN OLD LONDON THEATRICAL ALPHABET. 

A was Archer, who played his own ghost ; 

B was a Baker, as stiff as a post ; 

C was a Conway, 'tis known he can rant well ; 

D was a Dowton, oh, rare Dr. Cantwell ! 

E was an Egerton, clever in Clytus ; 

F was a Fawcett, long may he delight us ; 

G was a Gattie, so glorious in Tonson ; 

H was Miss Henry, I think she '11 get on soon ; 

I was an Isaacs, great in bluff Artabanes ; 

J was a Jones, still as brisk as champagne is ; 
K was a Kemble, a Winstone as busy as ; 
L was a Liston, oh, what a droll phiz he has ! 
M was a Mathews, show his equal who can ; 
N was poor Xaldi, killed by a stewpan ; 
O was O'Xeil, whose rise was so speedy ; 
P was a Power, who mimicked Macready; 
Q was a Quin, once at Drury a dancer ; 

II was J. Russell, I hope he may answer ; 

S was a Stephens, may she yet draw a high lot ; 

T was a Terry, superb in the Pilot ; 

J was an Usher, not a clown you ; 11 more odd see ; 

V was a Vestris, once IMiss Bartolozzi ; 

W was a Ward, whom we gee with delight ; 

X was his mark, though no doubt he can write ; 

Y was a Young, whom 'tis said they engage dear ; 

Z was Zuchelli, who'll soon be the rage here. 

FANNY B . 

[Quin was the married name of Miss Tree, the colum- 
bine at Drury Lane.] 

THE EXECUTIONER OF CHARLES L The fol- 
lowing "Anecdote concerning the Executioner of 
Charles I." appeared in the Lady's Magazine, 
November, 1780: 

" Richard Brandon, common executioner or hangman 
at that time, died upon Wednesday, June 20, 1649 (with- 
in five months of the king's martyrdom). The Sunday 
before Brandon died, a young man of his acquaintance, 
being to visit him, asked him how he did, and whether 
he was not troubled in conscience for cutting off the 
king's head. Brandon replied, ' Yes, because he was at 
the king's trial and heard the sentence denounced 
against him,' which caused the said Brandon to make 
this solemn vow or protestation, viz., wishing God to 
perish his body and soul if ever he appeared on the 
fccaffold (to do that wicked act) ; but immediately he fell 
a-trembhng, and hath ever since to his death continued 
in the like agony. He likewise confessed that he had 
thirty pounds for his pains, all paid him in half-crowns, 
within an hour after the blow was struck; and that he 
had an orange stuck full of cloves, and an handkerchief 
out of the king's pocket. As soon aa he was carried off 
om the scaffold he was proffered twenty shillings for 
that orange by a gentleman in Whitehall, but refused 
the same; but afterwards sold it for ten shillings in 
Rosemary Lane. 



" About six o'clock that night he returned home to his 
wife, living in Rosemary Lane, and gave her the money, 
saying, ' It was the dearest money thnt ever he earned in 
his life'; which prophetical words were soon made 
manifest. About three days before he died (as above 
mentioned) he lay speechless, uttering many a sigh and 
groan, and in a most deplorable manner departed from 
his bed of sorrow. For his burial great store of wine was 
sent in by the sheriff of the city of London, and a great 
multitude of people stood waiting to see his corpse 
carried to the churchyard, some crying out, Hang him, 
bury him on a dunghill ! ' others pressing on him, saying 
they would quarter him for executing the king, insomuch 
that the churchwardens and masters of the parish were 
fain to come to the suppressing of them, and with great 
difficulty he was at last carried to Whitechapel church- 
yard, having a bunch of rosemary at each end of the 
coffin and on the top thereof, with a rope tied across 
from one end to the other." 

I should like to know if this story is anywhere 
authenticated, and also if any explanation can be 
given of the " orange stuck full of cloves " and the 
" bunch of rosemary at each end of the coffin." 

J. N. BLYTH. 
[See"N. k Q.," 2" a S. xi. 446.] 

" GRAMERCY/' The following anecdote, from 
Oxford Jests, 1684, shows what meaning was at- 
tached to the word nearly two hundred years ago : 

" In March last, an elder brother, and unmarried, was 
accidentally kill'd by his horse, which the second brother 
hearing, immediately came and embrac'd the horse, and 
the ancient motto of the family, which was Be thrifty 
with little ; which the young gentleman having a woful 
experience of in his elder brother's days, he presently 
changed into Gramercy Horse j and after that would 
never suffer the horse to be rid, but gave him good 
allowance." 

E. E. 

Boston, Lincolnshire. 

ETYMOLOGY OF " GOLDEN," co. TIPPERARY. 
A writer in The Guardian of Oct. 6, led astray by 
the seeming meaning of the name Golden, says : 

"On the road to Cashel, names like Golden, Golden- 
bridge, Golden-hills, give an expectation of richness 
which a closer glance at the Suir valley does not disap- 
point. The Golden vale is a meet setting for this jewel 
of the archaeologist, Caisel-na-Righ, Cashel of the 
Kings." 

A reference to Dr. Joyce's work, Irish Names 
of Places, first series, shows that " golden " 
simply means a little fork, from 

" Galhal [goul, yoical, and gole], a fork ; old Irish 
galul, from the verb gal, to take. At the village of 
Golden, in Tipperary, the river Suir divides for a short 
distance, and forms a small island ; this little bifurca- 
tion was, and is still, called in Irish Galhailin [gouleen], 
which has been corrupted to the present name of the 
village, Golden." Pp. 510-11. 

E. M. BARRY. 

Scothorne Vicarage. 

PARALLELS : BUNYAN AND MASILLON. One 
day, when Bunyan had preached " with peculiar 
warmth and enlargement," some of his friends 
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and observed to him what a " sweet sermon " he 
had delivered. " Aye ! " he replied, " you need 
not remind rue of that ; for the devil told me of 
it before I was out of the pulpit." Southey's Life 
of Bunyan. 

A friend of Masillon's " le felicitait .sur ses ser- 
mons. ' Le diable,' repondit-il, 'me 1'a deja dit plus 
eloquemment que vous.' " Eloge de Masillon, par 
D'Alembert. E. M. BARRY. 

Scotliorne Vicarage. 



[We must request correspondents desiring information 
on family matters of only private interest, to affix their 
names and addresses to their queries, in order that the 
answers may be addressed to them direct.] 



" THE PRACTICE OF PIETY." The bibliography 
of this little book is a desideratum. I think the 
first edition has been often inquired for, but not 
yet heard of. We frequently see the work noticed 
with commendation by old writers ; and numerous 
as are the recorded impressions, I doubt not they 
greatly exceeded the number stated. As one of 
the so-called people's books of an orthodox charac- 
ter, we do not hear much of The Practise of Pietie 
after 1734, when it seems to have run its race, 
and been quietly put to rest in a goodly octavo, 
designated the fifty-ninth edition, although the 
next in my collection would render that doubtful, 
for it purports to be the seventieth edition, 12nio., 
Edin., Euddirnan, 1761. The high episcopal tone 
of the work certainly would be no recommendation 
to it in the North, and yet we shall see that it did 
get an early footing there. 

That the book was printed in London at the 
very beginning of the seventeenth century there is 
no doubt, but the earliest impression I know, or 
ever heard of, is this, in my own possession : 

" The Practise of Pietie, directing a Christian how to 



walke that he may please God. The Sixt Edition. 
Profitably amplified by the Author." 12mo. pp. 984, and 
dedicated " To the High and Mightie Prince Charles, 



Prince of Wales." Lond., Printed for Jonn Hodgets, 
1615. 

This title, " grauen by Eenold Elstrack," is in 
three compartments, the upper representing a fully 
robed priest on his knees offering up his heart, 
literally depicted, on a kindled altar, typical, no 
doubt, of the good Bishop Bayly himself primarily, 
dedicating his pious manual to the Deity ; the 
next, the title, between emblems ; and the lower, 
in the foreground, a mountain, from which is seen, 
in the valley below, the battle between Joshua 
and Amalek, during which Aaron and Hur hold 
up the hands of Moses until the enemy is defeated, 
as record'ed in Exodus xvii. 12. This engraved 
title is common to most editions. The next early 
'copy of the book I find is that of 1619, in the 
British Museum, called the eleventh edition. Mr. 



Chalmers notes a remarkable edition, Edin., 1636, 
as " the only copy known." I have not seen this, 
but there is before me the twenty-eighth edition, 
" Edin., Printed by John Hart, 1630," which is my 
next in order of date. But a small edition, with- 
out date, and that which has prompted this note, is 
the one bearing a pretty copy of the engraved title, 
and purporting "to be Amplified by the Author, the 
last and most correct " (called in the dedication 
the thirty-first edition), "printed at Edynburg 
by Jacob Williams for the good of Great Britaine." 
This imprint is, of course, fictitious, and corre- 
sponds nearly with another impression of similar 
form, " Printed at Delf by Abraham Jacobs," for 
behoof of the same benighted nation. A third of 
the same description is, " Printed at Amsterdam 
by John Handson " ; all, no doubt, supplied from 
Holland at a period when Great Britain might be 
supposed to need a return to'the sound episcopal 
teaching of the Bishop of Bangor for I assign 
all these dumpty little importations to the time 
of the Commonwealth and probably originating 
in the filial piety 'and great zeal for the Church of 
his son, Thomas Bayly, then an exile in Holland 
for over-demonstration of his loyalty to King 
Charles and High Church tendencies (see his 
Eoyal Charter). In the introductory address to 
the Prince to all the editions of the Practice of 
Piety here cited, the author says : " This is the 
third epistle he has written to draw his Highness 
nearer to God, and that he here once again offers 
his old mite new stainpt" And this is the last 
revise of the author, who died in 1631. The 
favourable antecedents of the old orthodox Prac- 
tice of Piety have procured it a modern editor in 
Miss Grace Webster, whose edition, published in 
1832, like most old books so edited, adds little to 
the object of my inquiry beyond a neat bio- 
iphical notice. Among the many readers of 
" N. & Q." who take an interest in the origin and 
progress of a popular religious manual, which has 
found favour and been printed in the original as 
well as translated in foreign lands, I hope to hear 
something more about my old book. J. 0. 

KEY. BIRCH, RECTOR OF HOUGHTOX CON- 
QUEST, BEDFORD. Can you give me information 
regarding the arms or family of the Eev. Birch, 
Eector of Houghton Conquest, co. Bedford ? His 
daughter Ann married Benedict Conquest, Esq., of 
Houghton Conquest. A memorandum exists to 
this effect, and under it, in pencil, is a rough 
sketch or indication of their arms. The date of 
1733 is also given. This sketch would be more 
comprehensible had Benedict Conquest had two 
wives ; but I am not aware that he was twice 
married. The arms are Party per pale, dexter side 
clearly those of Conquest ; the sinister side seems 
to be Party per fess, and if so, the coat on the chief 
part might be Argent, a fess counter embattled 



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gules, and the coat below would almost certainly 
be Azure, a chevron between three griffins, argent. 
The tinctures and the three griffins are noted in 
writing, but the chevron is the only charge clearly 
distinguishable. The son of Benedict Conquest 
and this Ann was Benedict Conquest, who married 
Mar}', daughter of Thomas Markham, Esq., of 
Ollerton, co. Notts. He sold Houghton, and 
removed to Irnliam Hall, co. Lincoln. Their 
daughter and heiress, Mary Christina, married the 
eighth Lord Arundell of Wardour, great-grand- 
father (maternally) of the present querist. 

F. A. WELD. 

LLEWELYN AP GRIFFITH AND HIS DESCENDANTS. 
The usual accounts of the Tudor family inform 
us that Catherine, daughter of the last Prince of 
North Wales, married Philip ap Ivor, and that 
they had an only daughter and heiress Eleanor. 
These Tudor pedigrees make no mention of any 
other marriage of Catherine's, but in Burke's ac- 
count of Mostyn of Talacre (Peerage and Baronet- 
ffjc for 1855), lorwerth Vychan ap lorwerth Gam 
is said to have married " Catherine, daughter of 
Llewelyn ap Griffith, Prince of North Wales 
and from this match the rest of the descent is de- 
duced. Can any Welsh genealogist kindly ex- 
plain this ? CL. 

HERALDIC. 1. When was the red lily first used 
as the device of the Florentine Commonwealth ? 
2. When was the red cross on a white field first 
used as the device of the Florentine people ? 3. 
How far back can be traced (authentically) the 
use of this last device arg., a cross gu. as thai 
of the people of England 1 K. NORGATE. 

SIR BENJAMIN WRENCH, M.D., of Norwich 
died August 15, 1747, a?t. eighty-two. Can an] 
one furnish me with an account of his parentage 
family connexions, and other particulars concern 
ing him ? He appears to have been thrice mar 
ried, and to have left daughters married to Pri 
deaux, Marcon, Jermy, and Wharton. Pleas< 
communicate direct with CHARLES JACKSON. 

l>oncaster. 

SILVER PLATE. I have in my possession fou 
silver covers, varying in size from two inches t 
four inches in diameter, intended for gallipot o 
glass receptacles, each cover having the cres 
a demi-lion issuing out of a mural coronel 
holding in its paws a shield ar. charged with 
chevron of the same. The covers are not ancieni 
as I fancy the head of our present sovereign, wit 
the other usual stamps, may be seen. Should 
correspondent recognize, I shall be happy to offe 
more information. C. D. MILLARD. 

Cumberland Road, Bristol. 

PRE-REFORMATION CHURCH PLATE. Having 
been allowed by the Rev. C. Brereton, the recto?, 



o examine the sacramental plate at Thornage 
"hurch, Norfolk, I made some notes respecting it, 
hich may perhaps be admitted into " N. & Q." 
Bound the chalice is the following inscription : 
" + Thes . is . y e . gyfte . of . iohn . Butes . and . Mar- 
ret . hys . wyfe . 1456 . whych . died . 1477." 

In the same line are the initials I. B. and M. B. 
Jnder the inscription is a shield bearing three 
tars, and on a chevron three lozenges, being the 
rms of the Butes or Butts family. 

On the paten, which is very small and plain, are 
he following words : 

" The fashe" 

altred by 

I. Stalom 

Cl. a 1563." 

I conclude that I. Stalom was the rector at that 
ime, though his name does not occur in the (in- 
iomplete) list of the rectors given by Bloomfield 
History of Norfolk}. 

Are there many instances of pre-Reformation 
jhurch plate remaining in England 1 This chalice 

in excellent preservation. F. J. N. IND. 

Bayfield Hall, Norfolk. 

THOMAS BREWER. Information given, Sept. 17, 
1626, by James Martin, "respecting Thomas Brewer 
nd others, Puritans and Brownists in Kent,'' is 
noted in the Calendar of State Papers, Dom. 
Series, 1625-1626, p. 430 (No. 110). Any infor- 
mation concerning this Thomas Brewer, his family 
and descendants, will oblige. 

J. H. TRUMBULL. 
Hartford, Conn., U.S. 

" GRAY'S INN GUINEA." In Farquhar's comedy 
of Sir Harry Wildair, Act i., in the dialogue 
between Col. Standard and Parly, is used this 
term. What was its origin '? F. P. B. 

NEED FIRE. Have any of your readers ever 
heard of " need fire," and, if so, can they give me 
any information respecting it ? 

REGINALD V. LE BAS. 

HERALDIC. When a family carry two mottoes 
in their arms, one for the crest and the other under 
the shield, is it correct for an unmarried daughter 
to place the latter motto under her lozenge ? 

W. M. M. 

HIERONYMUS DAVID. Where is the fullest 
account of this artist to be found 1 Is there any 
separate biography of him, or any published list of 
his works ? S. D. 

" THE SOCIETY OF THE BLUE AND ORANGE." I 
have seen in the possession of a friend an engrav- 
ing, under which the following inscription appears : 

"In Memory of our late Glorious Deliverer King 
William the II I., this Plate (of the City and Castle of 
Namur, taken 1695) is most Humbly Dedicated to the 



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Superiour, Wardens, and the Rest of the Members of the 
Loyal and Friendly Society of the Blue and Orange, by 
a Member, and their most Obliged Humble Servant, John 
Faber. Done from the Original Painting now in the 
Hands of the Bishop of Kildare [George Stone, D.D.], 
1743. John Wyck Pinx 1 . J. Faber Fecit, 1743." 

Kiog William is the principal figure, and i 
mounted on a black horse. Can any reader of 
" N. & Q." oblige me with particulars of the above- 
named society '? ABHBA. 

"THE BISHOP'S HAD HIS FOOT IN IT." This 
saying, which I have never heard out of Derby- 
shire, is one used (so far as I have been able to 
note) chiefly by farmers' wives and cooks, who 
have pretty frequently occasion to boil milk to 
prevent it from spoiling. Any one at all familiar 
with the properties of milk will know that it is 
sometimes very difficult to boil it without burning 
it. Whatever care may be taken it will burn, and 
therefore be spoiled. When such a mishap occurs, 
the wife or cook will say, " The bishop 's had his 
foot in it." The milk acquires when burnt a 
peculiar taste and smell, and when thus is known 
as " bishopped milk." Can any one explain why 
turned milk is associated with a bishop 1 

THOMAS RATCLIFFE. 
Worksop. 

THE MANORIAL COURTS of former times had 
criminal jurisdiction over those slighter offences 
which are now dealt with by justices of peace in 
petty sessions. Has this power been taken from 
the manor courts by statute, or only fallen into 
disuse 1 It is a common opinion among solicitors 
that it has been abolished by Act of Parliament, 
but no amount of inquiry or research has enabled 
me to find any such statute. ANON. 

THE SCAVENGER'S OFFICE IN THE SEVENTEENTH 
CENTURY. Thoroton, writing of Nottingham and 
its government in 1675, numbers among its 
public officers the scavenger, who, he says, "looks 
to the cleansing of the pavement and streets of 
the town, and attends upon the mayor's wife." 
This seems to me a somewhat curious combination 
of duties. Now-a-days, I think, "the mayor's 
wife " would hardly deem it " good enough " to be 
waited upon by, and officially connected with, the 
chief scavenger of the town. Was it the custom 
in other towns, at the time in question, for the 
official scavenger to attend upon the mayor's wife ? 

F. D. 

Nottingham. 

SWINTON FAMILY. Is there any English family 
of the name of Swinton, bearing arms, that can 
have given their name and their arms as an inn 
sign to Swinton Street, next to Acton Street, in 
Gray's Inn Road ? The street, judging from old 
plans of London, was made about 1780. 

B. R. S. 



RALEIGH'S MSS. " The famous Mr. Hamden, 
a little before the civil wars, was at the charge of 
transcribing 3452 sheets of Sir Walter Raleigh's 
MSS., as the amanuensis himself told me." These 
words are quoted in that tantalizing book of Delia 
Bacon's on Shakspeare, where not one in fifty of 
the citations is verified by chapter and verse 
references. Who is the writer who mentions this 
fact of Hampden, and where are these MSS. of 
Raleigh's? C. A. WARD. 

Mayfair. 



"THE BUFFS." 

(2 nd S. vi. 431.) 

HISTORICUS makes one or two queries, at the 
above reference, as to this ancient corps, in which I 
had the honour of serving for some years. First, 
" Where was it stationed in March, 1761 1 It 
sailed from Spithead for Belleisle on Thursday, 
May 14, 1761," &c. Surely HISTORICUS is quite 
wrong here. In the historical records of the regi- 
ment for the year 1760 it is said : 

"The regiment having suffered considerable loss in 
killed and wounded, and by disease arising from the 
climate " (the French West India islands), " it returned 
to England in 1760 to recruit." 

1761. "In the spring of 1761 it was again prepared 
for active service, and formed part of the force placed 
under the orders of Major-Gen. Hodgson for an attack 
upon Belle-Isle, a French island in the Bay of Biscay, off 
the coast of Brittany. The expedition appeared before 
this place on the 7th of April, and a landing was 
attempted on the following day," &c. 

" Why has this corps been termed the Nut- 
crackers 1 " I am quite unable to answer this query, 
And shall be glad to hear of the reason why. " Also 
the Resurrectionists, after May 16, 1811 ?'" This is 
answered in a note at the above reference. " Also 
whether ..this regiment is entitled to the motto, 

Veteri frondescit honore,' and, if so, why ? " I 
suppose, when different articles of uniform are 
served out to troops by Government with a motto 
on them, that there can be little doubt but that 
the troops so served have a right to such a 
motto. If HISTORICUS means to ask whether the 
regiment has a right, from its previous history, to 
such a motto, I answer that I believe no regiment 
n the British army has a better right to such a 
one. Let me, in as brief a manner as I can, give 

short account of this regiment from the historical 
records : 

1572. "In the month of March of this year the 

itizens of London had, in obedience to her Majesty's 

jommands, selected from the several companies three 

housand ' men at arms ' and ' shot,' in the usual manner, 

and instructed in the military exercises by experienced 

officer?. On the 1st of May they were mustered and 

exercised in the presence of her Majesty at Greenwich,* 

and among them were many veteran officers and soldiers, 



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who had served in Ireland, Scotland, and France, but 
were at this period unemployed. Captain Thomas Morgan, 
an officer of distinguished merit, being privately counte- 
nanced by several noblemen and other persons who were 
favourable to the Flemish cause, and assisted with money 
by the deputation from Flushing, raised a company of 
three hundred men, among whom were upwards of one 
hundred gentlemen of property, who, being inspired with 
a noble enthusiasm for the cause of religion and liberty, 
enrolled themselves under the veteran Captain Morgan.* 
This company was the nucleus of a numerous body of 
British troops, which, after the peace of Munster in 
1648. was reduced to one regiment, and having been re- 
called to England in 16(35, is now the 3rd Regiment of 
Foot, or the Buffs." 

From this date, 1572, until 1653 the regiment 
was in constant active service, chiefly against the 
Spaniards in the Low Countries. In the latter year 

" The States, having now no enemy to fear, reduced 
the strength of their land forces ; and the English 
veterans were incorporated into one regiment, which 
was designated the Holland Regiment, and is now 

the 3r>l Regiment of Foot in the British line After 

the redaction of the four regiments into one, which event 
is said to have taken place in 1655, the colonelcy appears 
to have been conferred on the veteran Colonel John 
Cromwell, who had for many years commanded one of 
the jui.ior English regiments." 



An 1 now comes a bit of history that is very in- 
teresting. aiv.1, I think, highly to the credit of. the 
regiment : 

"Although England had become a Commonwealth, 
and the royal family was in exile, yet the Holland Regi- 
ment preserved it.s loyalty, and it "appears to have been 
composed <.' men firmly attached to the royal cause. The 
brave Colonel J<.h:i Cromwell, who was a" near kinsman 
of the Lnr.i Protector, and who had been in the service 
of the State? r.p wards of thirty years, was particularly 
distinguished lor his attachment to the royal family, and 
lie held the regicides and usurpers of the kingly authority 
in suoli detestation that he obtained permission of King 
Charles II. t<> ching- his name from Cromwell to 
William?." 

_ Thr- regiment was recalled to England 
k. v ( ' II-? and his Majesty conferred the 

colonelcy of the regiment on Lieut. -Col. Robert 
Sidm.'v. by commission dated May 31, 1665. At 
the .-;(!.: time its appellation of the Holland Regi- 
ment continued during the succeeding twenty-four 
years. It obtained rank in the English army from 
the dare of its arrival in England in May, 1665, and 

-fluently fourth in" the British line. The 
first was Douglass Regiment, now the 1st Royal, 
which arrived in England from France in 'the 
summer of 1661, and obtained rank from that 
date ; the second was the Tangier Regiment, now 

! or (peon's Royal, raised in the autumn 
ot 1G61 ; the third was the Admiral'sf or Duke of 
York's Regiment, raised in 1664, and incorporated 
in 10-:) m the 2nd Foot Guards; the fourth 



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the Royal 



was the Holland Regiment, but after the above 
incorporation of the Duke of York's Regiment it 
became the 3rd Foot, and obtained at that time 
the title of " Prince George of Denmark's Regi- 
ment." 

1707. In this year "Prince George of Den- 
nark's Regiment " was permitted to display a 
dragon on its colours, as a regimental badge, as a 
reward for its gallant conduct on all occasions. 
The dragon, being one of the supporters to the 
royal arms in the time of Queen Elizabeth, also 
indicated the origin of the corps in her Majesty's 
reign. In this year was also St. Andrew's Cross 
added to St. George's Cross on the colours of the 
English regiments ; and a colour with the two- 
crosses was designated the Union. 

1703. On the decease of H.R.H. Prince George- 
of Denmark, Oct. 28, 1708, the regiment was no 
longer distinguished by his title. " In official returns 
and orders it was distinguished by the name of its 
colonel ; in newspapers and other periodical pub- 
lications it was sometimes styled the Holland 
Regiment ; and it eventually obtained a title from 
the colour of the clothing. The men's coats were 
lined and faced with buff; they also wore buff 
waistcoats, buff breeches, and buff stockings, and 
were emphatically called ' The Buffs.' " May it 
not also partly have arisen from the Yorkshire 
word "To stand buff"? i.e., "firm," vide 
" X. & Q.," 2 d S. x. 218. " Steady, ' The Buffs/ " 
a not unfamiliar caution to many an English soldier. 

1751. On July 1. 1751, a* royal warrant was 
issued respecting the clothing and colours of every 
regiment. In this warrant the regiment is desig- 
nated the 3rd or Buffs, and it is authorized to 
bear in the centre of its colours 

" The dragon, being the ancient badge, and the rose 
and crown in the three corners of the second colour. On 
tne grenadier caps the dragon ; white horse and king's, 
motto on the flags. The same badge of the dragon to be 
painted on the drums and bells of arms, with the rank 
of the regiment underneath." 

1756. In this year it was increased to twenty 
companies, and divided into two battalions. 

1758. In this year the second battalion was 
constituted the 61st Regiment. 

1782. In this year it was styled the 3rd East 
Kent Regiment, or the Buffs, by the commands of 
his Majesty by a letter dated London, August 31, 
1782, from Field-Marshal Conway, Commander-in- 
chief. 

1803. In this year it was augmented to two 
battalions. 

_ 1815. In this year the second battalion was 
disbanded. The early commanders of the regiment 
before 1665 were Thomas Morgan, Sir John Norris, 
Robert, Earl of Leicester ; Sir Francis Yere ; Horace 
Lord Vere, Baron of Tilbury ; Sir John Ogle ; Sir 
Charles Morgan ; Henry, Earl of Oxford ; Robert, 
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Cromwell. After that date, perhaps the mos 
noted men were Sir Walter Vane, 1668 ; Charle: 
Churchill, 1688 ; John, Duke of Argyll, 1707 
but amongst such a distinguished list of name: 
as that of the commanders consists of, it is in 
vidious to pick one out before another. 

" Was it opposed to Lord Clare's Eegiment al 
the battle of Eamillies, May 23, 1706, and with 
what result?" I do not quite understand the 
question ; it certainly was present at Kamillies on 
May 23, 1706, and very much distinguished itsel: 
as Prince George's Eegiment, under the commanc 
of Lt.-Col. Charles Churchill, who was the son of 
Lt.-Gen. Charles Churchill, the colonel of the 
regiment. 

The other question, as to the Coldstreain Guards 
I am unable in any way to answer. The Buffs 
were present at Fontenoy with Lord John Murray's 
Highlanders (now the 42nd), and covered the 
retreat of the army conjointly with that regi- 
ment. In 1872 the officers of the regiment, toge- 
ther with many who had formerly served in it, met 
at Willis's Eooin3 for their first regimental dinner 
to commemorate the tercentenary anniversary of 
the regiment, which is, I believe, what no other 
regiment in the service has the power of doing ; 
hence I think the motto, "Veteri frondescit 
honore," a not undeserved one. D. C. E. 

The Crescent, Bedford. 

P.S. It has the privilege of marching through 
the streets of London with bayonets fixed, band 
playing, and colours flying, vide " N. & Q.," 4 th S. 
ii. 228. 

"CALCIES" (5 th S. iv. 405, 471 ; v. 16.) About 
the meaning of the Mid. Lat. calceata, calceta, 
calceia, calcea, Fr. chaucee, chaussee, E. calcie, 
causey, or corruptly causeway, there is no dispute. 
It signifies a made road, including often the notion 
of a raised bank, with a surface solidified by any 
means : "Itinerarius agger" Marcellinus in Due. ; 
" Agger calcabili silice crustatus " Sidonius ; " De 
lignis et sabulo calcetum soliduni viatoribus fieri 
fiat " Ingulphus. The essential feature is the 
provision of a hard surface, which can best be 
effected by solid paving, as in the- great highways 
of the Eomans. There could not, then, be a more 
plausible derivation than one which made the word 
to signify a paved way, equivalent to the It. strada, 
a road, from Lat. via strata lapidibus, a way laid 
with stones, or the Fr. pave, familiarly used in the 
sense of highway. Now the Portuguese collar 
(from Lat. calceare), primarily to shoe, is secon- 
darily used in the sense of arming with a harder 
surface anything that is subjected to wear and tear, 
as we speak of an implement shod with iron or 
steel, and specially it is used in the sense of paving 
the streets, &c. Thus calcada, the Ptg. equivalent 
of our causey, is literally a shod or a paved way. 
The metaphor is so obvious and the explanation so 



natural, that it is surprising it did not meet with 
general acceptance when it was so clearly pro- 
pounded by Spelman, who says, " Non a calcando 
dicta, sed a calceando, quod vel lapidibus vel dura 
alia materia quasi calceo munitur contra injuriani 
plaustrorum vel itinerantium." This explanation 
seems to me so complete as to leave no opening for 
Diez's derivation (adopted by MR. SKEAT) of cal- 
ceata, in the sense of made of lime, even if he could 
show such a use of that term. The same may be 
said of Littre's explanation (after Charpentier) from 
Mid. Lat. calciatus, " chausse, puis foule," shod, 
then trod or beaten down, which fails, moreover, 
to give any account of the connexion between these 
meanings. If, indeed, the word can be found, as 
he asserts, in Mid. Lat. in the latter sense, it is no 
doubt a mis-spelling for calcatus, and never could 
have given rise to our word. H. WEDGWOOD. 
31, Queen Anne Street, W. 

The " George-the-Third schoolboy" used to 
connect this word, through the French, with calx 
or calceus, as being a trodden or foot path. The, 
raised side path often a church path is mostly 
distinguished from the roadway by this word 
causeway. It -has nothing whatever to do with 
lime, nor even limestone nor chalk, which are not 
used in preference to other materials. 

THOMAS KERSLAKE. 

This word is the translation, in the statute 
of the 23 Hen. VIII. c. 5, of calceta in the 
statute of the 6 Hen. VI. c. 5, and no doubt it is 
derived from calx, chalk. The old, and, according 
to Johnson, the correct, form of causeway was 
causey, which is still in use in the' Midland 
Counties, and is commonly applied to paved foot- 
ways. Minsheu gives us, " chaussee ou chaulce'e, 
a calce, qua in pavimentis plerumque utuntur." 
Chambaud's Fr. et Any. Did. has " chaussee, levee 
de terre pour retener 1'eau d'un etaug, &c., ou pour 
servir de passage dans les lieux marecageux." 
Bailey, Dicft gives "a bank raised in marshy 
ground for a foot passage." Spelman (Glossary) 
gives three meanings to calceata, calcetum : (1) a 
paved way ; (2) a bank to restrain the flow of 
water (" agger ad coercendas aquas ") ; (3) a pool 
;he waters of which are kept in by a bank (as I 
infer from the grant cited by him). The question, 
;herefore, what calcies means in the statute of 
Hen. VIII. must be determined by the object of 
that statute, which was to cause the construction 
of works to prevent " the outrageous flowing,, 
surges, and course of the sea " and rivers upon 
ow grounds. It is clear that a bank to restrain 
;he flow of water would aptly fall within the scope 
)f that statute, whilst a paved footway would not. 
The inference, therefore, is that calcies means a 
ank ; and the term may have been applied to a 
)ank paved on its top with chalk, or guarded or 
loitered (as we should say on the banks of the 



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[5 th S. V. JAN. 15, 76. 



Dove) with chalk, to prevent its being washed 
away by the action of water. C. S. G. 

POETS THE MASTERS OF LANGUAGE : LORD 
BYRON (4 th S. xi. 110 ; 5 th S. iv. 431, 491 ; v. 
14.) DR. GATTY asks your readers what they 
think of the following use of the word " sung " : 
" The isles of Greece, the isles of Greece, 
Where burning Sappho loved and sung." 
I am one of your readers from the commencement, 
and I reply that it is good sound English Anglo- 
Saxon if you will. 

The verb singan, A.-S., or singen, High Ger., 
siggvan, Gothic, is common to all the Teutonic 
dialects. The original preterite was sing, sang, 
plur. sungon, but very early sang became corrupted 
into song. Thus in King Alfred's translation of 
Eede, speaking of Coedmon he says, "song he arrest 
be middangeardes gesceape" (He first sang of the 
creation of the world). Chaucer, Miller's Tale: 

" Therto he song somtime a loud quinible." 
By the time of our authorized version of the 
Scriptures sang and sung had become confounded, 
and used indifferently. Thus Ex. xv. 1 we have, 
" then Moses and Aaron sang this song," whilst in 
Rev. v. 9 we read, " they sung a new song." Dry- 
den (Alexander's Feast) gives us : 

" War, lie suny, is toil and trouble, 

Honour but 'an empty bubble." 
Shakspeare uses sung exclusively both in the 
singular and plural : 

" To whom he sung in rude harsh-sounding rhymes," 

King John, iv. 2, 

L in many other passages. With Shakspeare 
and Dryden to fall back upon, Byron can hardly 
e censured for using the ordinary current lan- 
.age of his time, but nothing can excuse the 
cockneyism of there let him lay" which is ab- 
horrent both to taste and sense. 

Sandyknowe, Wavertree. J> A * PlCTOX ' 

GIPSIES : TINKLERS (^ S. ii. 421 : iii. 409)- 
Haying read lately the Extracts from the Council 

r/ * Jk f Aberdem > J have had 
names of Gipsies which do 






Perth by King William to his armourer (galeatori), 
and the ground is there specified " illam scilicit 
que iacet inter terram serlon incisoris et terrani 
Jacobi tinkler, Tenend," &c. Now these were 
evidently shop-keepers of Perth, Serlon being a 
publican, for Du Cange defines incisor quoting a 
" Statutum Communis Bononiensis, a. 1188," where 
the expression, " etiam qui caseum Incidunt," is 
found to be, "Gaupones hie interpreter, apud quos 
caseus in escam potatoribus datur." This statute 
law of Bologna was contemporary with this charter 
of William. James, tinkler, I take here to be tin- 
smith, and, if not, I would ask what is it ? If it 
had been true that the Gipsies did not make their 
appearance in Western Europe till the fifteenth 
century, here we have at all events the name 
Tinkler in the end of the twelfth or beginning of 
the thirteenth century. I have great doubts 
whether Tinkler was ever a special name of the 
Gipsies. Perhaps MR. PICTON, with his know- 
ledge of Northern and Eastern languages, may be 
able to throw some light on the origin of this word. 
I suppose siannum, which in the fourth century 
came to signify tin, is of the same root. Can it be 
traced to the East, as I believe Kao-o-trepos can be 
to some Sanscrit root, for in that case it would 
lead us to suppose that there must have been 
mines of tin known to Eastern nations before Corn- 
wall was visited by the Phoenicians ? Where were 
these mines, if such existed in early times ? 

The name of Tinkler continues to be found in 
old charters to a comparatively late period. Thus 
it appears in an old charter, of which I have an 
extract before me, referring to lands not far from 
Hightae, where the Gipsies the Faas, the Ken- 
nedys, &c., " the King's kindly tenants," as they 
were called long lived, and where some of their 
descendants, I believe, are still living. The charter 
is dated May 31, 1439, the third year of James II 
It is by John Halliday of Hodholm (now Hoddom) 
by which he wad setts his lands called Holcroft, a 
coteland, which was sometime belonging to Wil- 
liam de Johnstone, and two oxgangs of land, which 
are called the TynUer's lands, in the tenement of 
Hodholni and lordship of Annandail, to John de 
Carruthens, Laird of Mousewald, for 10?., money 
lent him m Ins grete myserie," dated Mousewald. 
Ihe name also TynMlaris Maling, near Inchinnan, 
appears m an old document dated April 23, 1530, 
m a dispute between the Countess Dowager of 
Lennox and John Sympill of Fulwod, quoted by 
Mr Eraser m his work entitled The Lennox 
(vol. 11. p. 235). C . rr, EAMAGE> 

KNIGHTS TEMPLARS (5* S. iv. 266.)-In a 
History of Freemasonry, Mr. J. G. Findel (of 
whom Mr D. Murray Lyon, one of the Grand 

nSq 2 V h ? -S7S? f dge f Sc tland > te 
1869 : So faithfully has the author performed 

3 task as the historian of Freemasonry, that his 



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name will, I believe, go down to posterity as the 
author of the best, the fullest, and most impartial 
work of his day on the subject of which it treats") 
says : 

" When Freemasonry erroneously supposed herself to 
be a daughter of Templarism, great pains were taken to 
represent the old Templars as a much ill-used body, and 
the truth was repressed. The Freemasons, in their 
eagerness to obtain historical facts, permitted false 
statements to be palmed upon them. The Masonic ad- 
mirers of the Knights Templars bought up the whole of 
the documents of the lawsuit, published by Molden- 
liawer, because they proved the culpability of the Order. 
Moldenhawer and Mlinter wished to follow up their one 
book by a second volume, but their connexion with the 
Freemasons prevented them from doing so. In the 
middle of the eighteenth century some branches of Free- 
masonry wished to revive the Order of Knights Tem- 
plars, saying that it had never been quite extinct. In 
1751 a Freemason Knight Templar, an obscure individual, 
published in Brussels the previous work of Duprez 
(Paris, 1650), with several notes, additions, and docu- 
ments ; but so mutilated, that it does not represent the 
order as guilty, but innocent. The reprehensible policy 
of the Templars, and their licentiousness, is a less dis- 
puted question than their mysteries, because these latter 
do not appear in the history of the order ; but certain 
traces of these secret teachings are not altogether want- 
ing. The real creed of the order was Deism, the scepti- 
cism of the patrician world, mixed up with the cabalistic, 
astrologic superstition of the Middle Ages. 

" In the middle of the eighteenth century, the report 
was circulated that the Order of Knights Templars con- 
tinued to exist, although the order was destroyed in the 
early part of the fourteenth century." , 

This rather wide gap of four centuries requires 
to be filled up with some sorb of evidence before 
the claim of the Scottish Order of the Temple can 
be admitted. MR. HAIG believes in it because 
he belongs to it, and because, as he says, the pre- 
sent Scottish order derives an income of 901. per 
annum from property formerly belonging to the 
Order of the Temple. Can he give chapter and 
verse for the descent of this as real Templar pro- 
perty always in the hands of real- Templars ? 
Findel says : 

"When the order was abolished, the power of the 
Templars was annihilated, and it was impossible to wake 
it from the dead ; some of the knights, escaping the fate 
of their brethren, wandered about in an abject state of 
want and poverty." 

Why did they not go and live on this property 
in Scotland ? Again : 

"The fugitive knights could not, of themselves, re- 
establish the order. If the order had continued to 
exist until 1459, it would most surely have incorporated 
itself with the new order of chivalry which the Pope 
then endeavoured to establish on the island of Lemnos. 
But the grave cannot deliver up its dead. If it had 
still existed in the fourteenth and fifteenth centuries, it 
would have been discovered and betrayed by the Jesuits. 
It could not have remained even a score of years con- 
cealed, still less centuries." 

In concluding a chapter on Templarism, in 
which Findel disposes of the French and Scotch 
Templars, he expresses his opinion that modern 



Templarism is " child's play and arrant nonsense," 
an opinion which I beg to recommend to the con- 
sideration of Sir Patrick Colquhoun and his 
"knights." A STUDENT. 

" SAUUAGINA " : "BERSANDUM " (5 th S. iv. 389.) 
" Sauvagina. Fera silvestris : bete sauvage, qui habite 

lesforets; ol. sauvagin, sauvagine (an. 1412). 

" Bersare. Venari, intra bersas forestse venationem 

exercere ; chasser; ol. bercer." Maigne d'Arnis, Lex. 

Man. Med. et Inf. Lat., Par., 1866. 

Blount's Law Diet., Lond., 1691, has : 
" Bersa (Fr. bers), a limit, compass, or bound : 

pasturam duorum taurorum per totam bersam in foresta 

nostra de Chipenham, &c. Mon. AngL, 2 par. fol. 

210 a. 
" Bersare (or Germ, bersen, to shoot). Bersare in 

foresta mea ad tres arcus (carta Ranulphi Comitis 

Cestrse, anno 1218), that is, to hunt or shoot with three 

arrows in my forest." 

ED. MARSHALL. 

Sauvagina, or tauuagina, is wild fowl, and more 
especially those birds whose usual places of abode 
are marshes or the sea-coast. The French sauva- 
gine has the same signification. There is an old 
French verb, berser, meaning to shoot, to hunt with 
a bow, with which bersandum may be compared. 
Du Cange gives also the Low Latin bersa, a kind 
of hurdle or osier-work used as a fence around 
hunting forests. Bersare would very naturally 
derive from bersa. See Littre, Berceau and 
Sauvagine. HENRI GAUSSERON. 

Ayr Academy. 

Dufresne, under " Sauvagina," refers to sylvaticus, 
which he renders " agrestis, incultus, aspero ingenio, 
sauvage, Italis salvatico" ; and under " Salvaticus," 
pro Silvaticus, he says : "In Charta Edw. III., 
Regis Angl.,'tom. ii. Monastic., p. 768, Sauvagince, 
dicuntur foree silvestres : De tota sauvagina, et 
omnibus bestiis silvestribus cujuscunque generis 
forent . . . quse invents in clauso de Kill, ad ber- 
sandum, venandum, capiendum, &c. Itali salvag- 
gine dicunt. Philippus Mouskes in Henrico I.: 
' Ciers i mit, et bisses et dains, 

Puis counins, lievres, et ferains, 

Et maniere de sauvegine.' " 

And he renders Bersare, birsare, "venari, intra 
bersas, forestse venationem exercere." Le Roman 
de Garin, MS. : 

" Et en riviere 6 les faucons aler, 
Et en forest por chacier el Herser." 

Le Roman de Girard de Vienne, MS. : 
" Et la forest ou li Hois dut Berser." 
And he renders Bersce, " crates vinrinioe, seu sepes 
ex palis vel ramis grandioribus contextse, quibus 
silvse, vel parci undique incinguntur, ut nullus 
cervis, cseterisque feris ad egressum pateat aditus. 
Charta laudata a Spelmanno : Intra Bersas fo- 
rests," &c. R. S. CHARNOCK. 
Paris. 



NOTES AND QUERIES. 



[5 th S. V. JAN. 15, 76. 



LEASES FOR 99 OR 999 YEARS (5 th S. iv. 289, 
472.) I venture on a conjecture that these have 
originated in ' leases granted under the powers of 
family settlements. Such powers, if intended to 
apply to mere agricultural leases, would be limited 
to the usual term of 21 years. If intended for 
building, purposes, on terms which would give the 
builder security for the possession by himself and 
his children, with a prospect of reversion to the 
lessor's family at a period not too remote to be 
contemplated as a reality, 100 years would be the 
natural limit. And if the leasing power was in- 
tended to be practically unlimited, it would be 
simplc-r to substitute 1000 for 100 in the "common 
form/" than to express the intention in other words. 
When the conveyancer came to act on these powers, 
nice questions might occur to lawyers, such as 
whether a lease to commence from a future day, 
fixed upon as the usual rent-day, would or would 
not be a lease for a longer period than was au- 
thorized by the power, and might induce him, ex 
abundantc cautela, to reduce the term to 999 years, 
rightly considering that in a 1000 years' term a 
year more or less was of no practical importance. 
The same considerations in a less degree would 
account for the substitution of a 99 years' term 
for 10); but in preparing the agricultural lease 
the termination of it would be too much in the 
immediate contemplation of the parties to admit of 
the term being curtailed by a single year. Terms 
are^ created for all sorts of purposes in settlements ; 
and when they are for the purpose of securing 
jointures or life annuities, they are usually for 100 
years, and if for securing sums of money in gross 
they are for terms of 500 or lOOo, 2000 or 3000 
years, arbitrarily chosen for no other purpose than 
to distinguish them from one another when several 
terms are created by the same deed or subsist in 
same family title. They are never for 99 or 
)9 years, such terms being invariably confined to 
building leases. j j\ ]\j 

"CARPET KNIGHT" (5* S. iv. 42S ; v. 15.)- 

stinction is quite clear, knighthood of the 

ter_sort being bestowed on the field of battle, 

t civic knighthood an empty compliment to 

wealth, fussiness, or political servility beino- oi Ten 

with tap of pointless sword on 'the courtier's 

* he kneeled on the carpet. W. M 

d aevote one of Ins sparkling charades or 

) Knighthood, and preserves the contrast 

cnumg thus : 

fi Such tiling Lave vanished like a dream ; 

llie mongrel mob prows prouder 
And everything is done by steam 
And men are killM bv powder 
I [i. e. Knighthood] feel, alas ! my fame decay ; 

I give unheeded orders, 
And rot in paltry state away 
AV ith Sheriffs and Recorders.'' 

(Poems, 1864, ii. 395.) 



A clever satire, "Verses upon the order for 
making Knights of such persons who had 461. per 
annum in King James I.'s time," from Addit. MS. 
j^o. 5,832, fol. 205, Brit. Museum, will be found - 
complete in the Appendix of Notes to Choyce 
Drollery, p. 295, now printed and almost ready for 
publication. Here is one verse, the third : 
" Knighthood in old time was counted an honour, 

Which the best spiritts did not disdayne ; 
But now it is us'd in so base a manner, 

That it 's noe creditt, but rather a staine : 
Tush it's noe matter what people doe say, 
The name of a knight a whole village will sway." 

In the Lady of the Lake Roderick taunts Fitz- 
james as being perhaps a " carpet knight," canto v. 
stanza 14. J. W. E. 

Molash, by Ashford, Kent. 

CANON LAW (5 th S. iv. 512.) MR. EUST will 
find an answer to most of his queries in part i. of 
Fasting Communion, by the Kev. H. T. Kingdon, 
M.A,, Longmans, 1875, and also references to 
canonists, which will enable him to get an answer 
to the remainder. Mr. Kingdon heads the inquiry 
thus, How Canon Law Binds, and proceeds to 
show, first that there is a difference between canons ;. 
next, how canons are binding ; and lastly, that 
disuser abrogates canon law. 

WILLIAM COOKE, F.S.A. 

The Hill House, Wimbledon. 

THE HUMMIXG-TOP (5 th S. iv. 209, 254, 457, 
490.) Though the reason of the top sleeping is, to 
some extent, understood, yet that phenomenon has 
never been accounted for by strict mathematical 
processes. The equations of motion applicable to 
the case have not been found to yield that limiting 
case in which the oscillation of the axis is approxi- 
mately nil. It surely deserves to be recorded, 
while this subject is on the tapis, that the problem 
of the sleeping top was set in the examination for 
the Smith's -prizes at Cambridge in 1845. On this 
occasion it is said Sir William Thomson (who 
obtained the first prize) did not attempt the pro- 
blem, but pointed out to one of the examiners that 
the thing could not be done in the manner required 
by them. It is believed that Sir William thus 
obtained marks for leaving the problem alone, or 
(what amounts to the same thing) his opponent, 
Dr. Parkinson, lost all he had obtained for a solu- 
tion, which thus proved to be delusive. JABEZ. 

Athenaeum Club. 

HERALDIC (5* S. v. 9.) The arms inquired 
after by A. E. L. L. are those of Ayala ; but it is 
strange that they should be quarterly 1 and 4, with 
Blount 2 and 3. Sancha, or Sancia de Ayala, 
daughter of Don Diego Gomez, of the house of 
Toledo, often described as "Duke" of Toledo 
married Sir John Blount, K.G. Croke's o-reat 
work on the Blount family, and the Spanish 
pedigree in the Heralds' College, give different 



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accounts of the Toledo family. I have failed my- 
self to discover the grounds upon which the 
numerous and distinguished descendants of Sir 
John Blount quarter the arms of Castile. Is 
A. E. L. L. quite certain that " Mountjoy " ought 
not to be read instead of "Mountfort" in the 
account of the arms in Middleton Church ? 

C. G. H. 

The arms in question, viz., Or, a tower azure, 
are one of the quarterings of the ancient Spanish 
family of Ayala, and were brought into the Blount 
coat by the marriage of Sir Walter Blount with 
Dona Sancha de Ayala (see Croke's History of the 
Blounts, ii. p. 173). The shield in Coleshill 
Church must be turned the wrong way, as the 
Blount arms, Barry nebulee of six, or and sable, 
should no doubt be in the 1st and 4th quarters. 

C. J. E. 

LOUISE LATEAU (5 m S. iv. 513.) Whether 
Louise Lateau (not Latour) still continues to exhibit 
the same symptoms I cannot say, but until October 
of last year (1875) her state remained unaltered. 
The last account I have seen of her in England 
was in the British Medical Journal for Oct., 1875 
(quoted in the Times, Oct. 22), in which extracts 
are given from a letter of Dr. H. Boens of Char- 
leroi, which inform us that 

4C During an illness -which lasted about a month, the 
'stigmatic' bleeding stopped, and the 'ecstasies' were 
replaced by hysterical faintings. Afterwards, the former 
state of things recurred. M. Boens, who has set a watch 
on the family, declares that he is in a position to affirm 
and prove that Louise Lateau eats and drinks copiously, 
and performs all the ordinary functions of nature. He 
adds that ' she frequently rubs and scratches with her 
nails, and with a rough cloth, especially during the night, 
the places where the blood flows ; and keeps up on these 
spots, even mechanically during sleep, pressure with her 
fingers, so as to maintain a condition of local congestion." 

She is a Belgian, Bois d'Haine being in the 
diocese of Fournais, a Walloon district of Belgium. 
In January, 1875, she was offered (see the Times, 
January 7) 30,000 fr. " on condition of subject- 
ing herself to supervision for eight days," but no 
notice was taken of the offer. Whether now she 
has been proved an impostor or not is a matter, I 
take it, which must be left to the estimation of 
each individual. Her case is not, however, devoid 
of interest, inasmuch as it has already produced a 
literature of its own. Here are the books about 
her which have so far appeared : 

1. " Louise Lateau, sa vie, ses extases, ses stigmates." 
By Dr. Lefebvre. Louvain, 1870. Second edit., 1873. 

2. " Biographic de Louise Lateau." By 31. Van Looy. 
Bruxelles, 1873. 

3. " Louise Lateau, la stigmatisee de Bois d'Haine, 
d'apres des sources authentiques, medicales et theolo- 
giques." Par le professeur Dr. A. Rohling. Bruxelles 
et Paris, 1874. 

4. " Louise Lateau, die Stigmatisirte von Bois d'Haine, 
kein Wunder, sondern Tauschung. Die Berichte des 
Prof. Lefebvre, Prof. Rohling, Paul Majunke's und 



Anderer in ihrer Haltlosigkeit dargelegt von Dr. B. 
Johnen." Coin und Leipzig, 1874. 
^ 5. " Louise Lateau." _ Rapport Medical sur la stigma- 
tisee de Bois d'Haine, fait a 1'academie royale demedecine 
de Belgique, &c., par le Docteur Karlomont. Bruxelles, 
]875. 

6. " Louise Lateau." Discours prononces a 1'academie 
royale de medecine de Belgique dans les seances du 29 
Mai et du 29 Juin, 1875, par M. le Docteur Lefebvre, &c., 
en reponse au Rapport Medical, &c. Bruxelles, 1875. 

7. " Louise Lateau devant la physiologic et la patho- 
logic." Par le Docteur J. Crocq, &c. Bruxelles, 1875. 

8. " Maladies et facultes diverses des Mystiques." Par 
M. le Docteur Charbonnier, &c. Bruxelles, 1875. 

9. " Science et Miracle. Louise Lateau, ou la stigma- 
tisee beige." Par le Docteur Bourneville, &c. Paris, 1875. 
With a portrait of the heroine. 

10. " Louise Lateau, ou les mysteres de Bois d'Haine 
devoiles." Par Hubert Boens, &c. Bruxelles, 1875. 

11. "Fin de la comedie de Bois d'Haine." Par 
Hubert Boens. Bruxelles, 1876. 

This list brings the publications concerning 
Louise Lateau down to the present moment. I 
doubt, however, whether it is complete. Some 
other contributor to " N. & Q." may perhaps be 
able to make it perfect. APIS. 

" Do UNTO 'OTHERS," &c. (5 th S. iv. 349.) The 
"sneer" and quotation from Isocrates will be 
found in a note at the end of the fifty-fourth chapter 
of the Decline and Fall H. D. C. 

[The passage runs thus : " A Catholic inquisitor yields 
the same obedience which he requires, but Calvin vio- 
lated the golden rule of doing as he would be done by ; a 
rule which I read in a moral treatise of Isocrates (in 
Nicole, torn. i. p. 93, edit. Battie), four hundred years 
before the publication of the Gospel, 'A 
opyiL,e&6e, ravra TOIQ a\\oig fj.rj 



THE OBLIGATIONS OF EXECUTORS (5 th S. iv. 
349.) I do not think " it is Walker, the author of 
The Original, who raises the odd question whether 
a man's executors are not bound to give a dinner- 
party for him if he dies between the invitation and 
date of the banquet." 

If Walker did raise the question, it was only at 
second-hand. I took in The Original as it came 
out, now more than forty years ago, and my re- 
membrance of the idea dates from before that time. 
I feel sure, but have not the means of verifying my 
strong impression, that Dr. Kitchener was the 
author of the remark, not as raising a question, but 
as laying down a principle which ought to become 
a law. ELLCEE. 

Craven. 

THE DIE-SINKERS AND ARTISTS IN MEDALS 
OF THE SEVENTEENTH AND EIGHTEENTH CEN- 
TURIES IN GREAT BRITAIN (5 th S. iv. 449.) All 
printed accounts of these medallists are very 
scanty, and are scattered among several different 
publications. George Vertue's Life and Works of 
Thomas Simon, the greatest of these artists, is very 
incomplete. Much new information has been dis- 
covered since Vertue's time, 1753. Horace Wai- 



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[5 th S. V. JAN. 15, 76. 



pole's Anecdotes of Painting and Pinkerton's 
Medallic History of England contain several 
brief notices of medallists. The Numismatic Chro- 
nicle contains some valuable articles on Thomas 
Simon, the Eoettiers, and Croker (see the general 
index to the old series). Consult also the Eev. E. 
Ending's Annals of the Coinage, 3rd edit., 3 vols. 
4to., 1840. HENRY W. HENFREY. 

EDMUND S. PERY (NOT PERRY), M.P. (5 th S. 
iv. 450), was Speaker of the Irish House of Com- 
mons from 1771 to 1785, when he was raised to 
the Peerage as Viscount Pery of Newtown Pery, 
co. Limerick. Though twice married, he left no 
male issue, and the title became extinct. His 
3 r ounger brother, who became Bishop of Limerick 
in 1784, was created Baron Glent worth of Mallow 
in 1790, and was great-great-grandfather of the 
present Earl of Limerick. ABHBA. 

Edmund Sexton Pery was descended from 
Edmund Pery of Stackpole Court, co. Clare, by 
the daughter and heiress of Edniond Sexton of 
St. Mary's Abbey, who died in 1671. 

Edmund S. Pery was born in 1719, Speaker in 
Ireland from 1771 to 1785, elevated to the Peerage 
Dec. 30, 1785, as Viscount Pery of Newtown, co. 
Limerick. He married twice, but, leaving only two 
daughters, his honours expired at his death in 
1806 (Lodge's Peerage of Ireland; Burke's Peerage). 

H. M. VANE. 

74, Eaton Place, S.W. 

SKIKELTHORPE (5 th S. iv. 450.) W. N. had 
better consult (he will find it in the University 
Libraries at Oxford and Cambridge, and at the 
British Museum) a work on genealogy, with a 
history of British family names, by the learned 
Eev. W. E. Flett, D.D., of Sidney Sussex College, 
Cambridge. He will almost certainly there find 
information relative to the above-mentioned family 
name. 

A friend of mine, who says he has heard of the 
name of Skikelthorpe once, many years ago, thinks 
that it is of Saxon and German origin combined, 
and that at some former time it was spelt and 
pronounced Skuttle-thorpe. COUSINS 

Cambridge. 

WILLIAM, THIRD EARL OF PEMBROKE, OF THE 
HERBERT FAMILY (5* S. iv. 487 ; v. 18.) May I 
ask permission to append a correction to my former 
paper on this subject ? Colonel Chester has been 
so kind as to inform me that Anne Talbot, Countess 
ol Pembroke, was buried at Erith, Aug. 8, 1588 

kn'ow^?^ WM Harh MS - 5 7 ' and J did not 
knmv that there was reason to suspect any error ; 
but I hope TYRO will pardon me for having unwit^ 
tmgly misled him. HERMENTRUDE. 

ARABELLA FITZJAMES (5* S. iv. 488 v 14 V- 
In reply to THUS, who desires to kn o ; how the 



paper bearing this signature came into my pos- 
session, I have to inform him that it was one of a 
large and valuable series of papers (principally 
cheques upon Sir Francis Child, the well-known 
banker, which were stored in the upper room over 
Temple Bar), which I have had the pleasure of 
looking through and sorting. I shall be happy to 
show them to THUS. F. G. HILTON PRICE. 
Temple Bar. 

THE CHARTERHOUSE (5 th S. v. 27.)Beavor is 
obviously a variant spelling of Sever, drink, which 
is still in use at Eton as the name of an afternoon 
provision of bread and beer, set out in Hall during 
the greater part of the summer half. The day on 
which this begins is called Bever Day. F. P. 

WILL-O'-THE-WISP (5 th S. iv. 209, 235.) On 
the night before the day on which I read MR. 
PEACOCK'S communication on this subject I saw 
at Iviyoto, the ancient capital of Japan, six or 
seven " corpse lights " over an old cemetery on a 
hill. They flickered, but did not change place. 

D. 

" NESS " (5 th S. iv. 265) : TO LAMM = TO 
BEAT (5 th S. iii. 384, 416 ; iv. 276.) These words 
are Irish, i. e., Ness, Lamm. Ness signifies death ; 
and the word As signifies a waterfall or cascade, 
and is met in many combinations of Irish names of 
places. For instance, A skeaton (a town in the county 
of Limerick, formerly of some importance as having 
returned a member to the Irish House of Commons, 
and as having been in more remote times one of 
the principal seats and castles of the Geraldines, 
in the province of Munster) represents three words : 
As, a waterfall or cascade ; caed, a hundred ; teinid, 
fire=the waterfall of the hundred fires. The 
river Deel here falls over a series of limestone 
rocks , and there is a very fine salmon leap. The 
tradition as to the hundred fires is lost in remote 
obscurity. Lamm is no other than the Irish word 
La'mh, a hand. Luclid Lamhaigh were the bow- 
men and slingers of ancient and mediaeval times, 
and the phrase is now applied to shooters or 
fowlers, &c. La'mhach is a casting with the hand, 
and, according to O'Brien (Diet., fo., Paris ed., 
p. 316), " it is now the word used by the Irish for 
shooting." Lamm-pye is simply a rough handling, 
sometimes called Lamm-basting or hand-beating. 
Lamm-pye is composed of two Irish words : La'mh= 
the hand, and pighe=a, pie. " He has got lamb and 
salad" is a phrase that is sometimes heard among 
persons who describe an individual that has got 
severe chastisement. The word La'mh=hand, 
gives force and meaning to these phrases. The 
act indicated is done by or with the hand, hence 
Lamm. The English word lavish comes from 
Lamh, the hand, as does clutch from the Irish 
word Cluthughadh, to grasp. In the last line of 
tne following passage from Shakspeare we have an 



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Irish word, which is common to this day in the 
mouths of the people of this country : 
" The elements 

Of whom your sword is tempered may as well 

Wound the loud winds, or with bemocked-at stabs 

Kill the still closing waters, as diminish 

One dowle that 'a in my plume." 

" Dowle " is none other than dual, a " strike " of 
flax, or such portion of flax as may be taken be- 
tween the fingers. It may have been applied to 
the band or tie of the plume, or to a portion of the 
plume itself. 

With regard to the word As, I may add 
that Dunas, or, in English, the waterfall by the 
fort, is one of the most remarkable and beautiful 
of the cascades or falls on the river Shannon. The 
name is derived from Dun=a, fort ; as a waterfall 
it has been illustrated in several works on Ireland 
(see Hall's Ireland, Brewer's Beauties of Ireland, 
Bartlett's Pictorial Ireland, &c.). There is the 
ruin of a massive fort or dun towering high above 
the falls, as the waters tumble and roar, in mimic 
Niagara- fashion, over rocks, &c., at this place. I 
congratulate Dr. Charles Mackay on his labours 
in the Athenceum in the good work in which he is 
engaged of pointing out the many British and 
Irish words in the English language as they were 
written by Shakspeare and some of his contem- 
poraries, and of, which even Dr. Johnson was 
ignorant. A knowledge of international etymology 
would prove of use in every way. 

MAURICE LENIHAN, M.E.I.A. 

Limerick. 

HORNGARTH (5* S. iv. 207, 378.) I think this 
word is quite distinct from Horn-geldt. As the 
latter means horn money, and is an abbreviation 
of tax or money payable on horned animals, so 
Horn-garth means horn enclosure, a guarded or 
enclosed place in which horned animals are kept. 
Garth is an old North-country word, which in law 
dictionaries, such as those of Blount and Cowel, is 
denned as a fenced yard, backside, or close. The 
word garth was also used to describe a water fence 
or enclosure which retained fish ; thus a weir w"as 
termed a water-garth, and the man in charge of a 
weir is called in statutes of Ric. II. a Garths-man. 

EDWARD SOLLY. 

THE ORIGIN AND SYMBOLISM OF THE CARDI- 
NAL'S RED HAT (5 th S. iii. 64, 233, 278, 456 ; iv. 
337.) I can hardly hope to alter the present atti- 
tude (p. 337) of MR. TEW towards the work of 
Pietro Giannone, but I shall venture to offer the 
readers of " N. & Q." both some means of testing 
his value as an historian, and some independent 
testimonies to the accuracy of his statement re- 
specting the origin and symbolism of the colour 
of the Cardinal's hat. First, as to Giannone's 
authority ; it may be sufficient to refer MR. TEW 
to Hallam's Middle Ages, where he will find the 



Istoria Civile di Napoli quoted along with Sis- 
mondi's Histoire des Republiques Italiennes. Mr. 
Stubbs also quotes Giannone in the new volume 
of his Constitutional History. Secondly, as to 
the attribution of the red hat to Pope Innocent IV., 
and the precise date and significance of the gift, 
I will offer MR. TEW concurrent lines of testimony 
from English and foreign writers of the present 
day, based upon mediaeval authority. 

Mr. T. L. Kington (now Oliphant), in his His- 
tory of Frederick II. , Emperor of the Eomans, 
vol. ii. p. 358 (Macmillan, 1862), in describing the 
first Council of Lyons (1245), says: "At this council 
it was first decreed that the members of the college 
should wear red hats, in token of their willingness 
to shed their blood for the Church." For the 
authority on which this statement is based Mr. 
Kington-Oliphant refers to " De Curbio," i. e. 
Nicholas of Corby, an English friar, chaplain and 
biographer of Innocent IV. This is absolutely 
contemporary evidence, and upon it, no doubt, is. 
based the similar account given by M. De Cherrier, 
the learned French historian of the struggle be- 
tween the Popes and the Emperors of the House of 
Hohenstaufen (Histoire de la Lutte des Papes et 
des Empereurs de la Maison de Souabe, par C. De 
Cherrier, Paris, 4 vols., 1841), vol. iii. pp. 138-9 : 

" A droite, dans la nef, les cardinaux-eveques occu- 
paient le premier rang ; puis venaient les pretres et les 
diacres : tous portaient la barrette rouge, qu'on leur 
avait donnee tout recemment comme un attribut de leur 
dignite eminente. On avait fait choix de cette couleur, 
afin de tmoigner que chacun d'eux etait pret a verser 
son sang pour la defense de 1'Eglise." 

It will be observed that while Mr. Kington-Oli- 
phant's words imply that the red hat was decreed 
by the Council, of which MR. TEW cannot find any 
trace in Ha,rduin, the language of M. De Cherrier 
only asserts that a hat or cap (Barrette, Biretta) of 
that colour was then first publicly worn, while the 
symbolism is explained in the same manner by 
both writers. C. H. E. CARMICHAEL. 

"LUNCHEON" (5 th S. iv. 366, 398, 434, 524.) 
Very often have I taken "las once" (5 th S. iv. 
398) in Spain, and heard it spoken of there and 
elsewhere ; but never did I hear the second word 
pronounced on-che. Once, whether it means the 
number eleven, or, as las once, eleven o'clock, and 
the luncheon taken at that hour, is pronounced 
on-the in Castilian, or on-sa in Southern and 
American Spanish. 

Sometimes, by way of jest, las once is said to 
take its name from the eleven letters of aguardiente 
(= brandy), and to mean a dram. 

HENRY H. GIBBS. 

St. Dunstan's, Regent's Park. 

LORD LYTTON'S " KING ARTHUR " (5 th S. iv. 
148, 192.) MR. CHAS. KENT has alluded to some 
of the clever sketches of contemporaries contained 



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[5 th S. V. JAN. 15, 76. 



in this work as " not unwisely eliminated from the 
later editions." I cannot see the wisdom of such 
elimination. The portraits are in themselves 
strikingly clever ; and in my poor judgment are 
quite defensible. It is true that the satire con- 
tained in some of them is pungent enough ; but 
then it is polished, and refers not to private 
character, but to the characters of the personages 
as they appeared to the public, and, in most cases, 
may be taken to imply a justifiable moral rebuke. 
I trust, therefore, that they will be preserved. It 
may not be uninteresting, looking at this same 
process of elimination, if a list of the portraits 
contained in the early edition which I read be 
given in " N. & Q." Those which I easily recog- 
nized were Louis Philippe, Guizot, the late Earl 
of Durham, Earl Russell (then Lord John), the 
Bishop of Exeter (Philpotts), Duke of Wellington, 
Lord Palmerston, Macaulay, and Disraeli. One 
other rather puzzled me at the time, and I may 
be wrong now in fancying it to be the " Rupert of 
debate,"' the late Earl of Derby. But perhaps 
MR. KENT will give his valuable opinion on this 
(I have not seen the eliminated editions) : 
* But. like the vigour of a Celtic stream, 

Comes LoIocTs rush of manly sense along, 
Fresh with the sparkles of a healthful beam, 
Ai;d quick -with impulse like a poet's gong. 
How list'ning crowds that knightly voice delights, 
Tf from the crowd are banish'd all but knights ! " 

M. H. R. 

ILFRACOIUBE (5 th S. iii. 449 ; iv. 31, 213, 258.) 
Perhaps the epitaph of the wife of Rev. Leonard 
Prince would be acceptable in connexion with this 
place. The tablet from which I copied it is now 
in the north chancel aisle of ''Combe Church : 

" In memoriam Elizabeths? filire Johannis Gongh e 
comitatu Somersettensis Armigeri conjugis Leonard! 
Prince hujus eccleske pastoris qua; obiit 25 7 lTis Ano 
Domini ] 055. JEtatis sure 37. 
<-iU!ilis erat qurcras '' Kou'oi' cr.gnoscito Lector 

~Moo<t>i)v uix capiant, marmora, tails erat 
E meiiore iuto Deus hanc Xaturaque fi:;xit, 
^ Quippe Dei Veri nera et amantis amans; 
?orpore sic fuerat, sic mente sic undique pulchra, 

Effulgens doriis (ut puto) nemo magis. 
Corpus, terra tegit. Ocli mens sede quiescit, 
Quod ti)..j rnunvs erat, Vae niihi funus erit. 
Quae tcribo_nil sunt luctum testantia ; non est 

E?t quoniarn dici non licet augit erat. 
Farce mihi Lector, carnemque redargue inultum, 

leuis loquitur qure grauis ilia stupet. L. P. 
Xornen) El chari 
Anag. / pnati bees."' 

T. F. R. 

TREENWARE (5tu s. iv. 308, 331.) The follow- 
; quotation clearly shows the meaning in the 
sixteenth century : 

"i Whan 1 l e t ucnetu an erthen vessel!, it shall be 

ken; but the tru* vcesell shall be reused with 

-Coverdale's translation of Leviticus xv 12 



Coverdale also uses tre where our Authorized 
Version uses " wood " ; in Gen. vi. 14, " Make 
the an Arke of Pyne tre" So, in Exod. xxv. 10, 
26, " Make an Arke of Fyrre tre" ; " foure pilers of 
Fyrre tre" ; and in ch. xxvii. 1, "an Altare of Firre 
tre" But the word terrene was used for terrestrial, 
earthly, as in Hooker's Ecclesiastical Polity, bk. v. 
ch. xxxiv., " terrene powers." This might have been 
pronounced free??. Puttenham, in his Arte of English 
Poesif, also speaks of " terrene and base gods," 
i. xii., and " terrene justice," ii. xi. (Arbers ed.). 
In the Homily on the Sacrament we read of 
" terrene and earthly creatures." W. P. 

Forest Hill. 

MONUMENTAL INSCRIPTIONS IN NORMAN- 
FRENCH (5 th S. iv. 449.) MR. BOASE will find 
many instances of Norman-French inscriptions in 
Haines's Manual of Monumental Brasses, Cutts's 
Incised Slabs, an'd Boutell's Christian Monu- 
ments. It is surely very exceptional to find, not 
only Norman-French, but any inscriptions on 
monuments, earlier than the thirteenth century. 
A considerable number of the thirteenth century, 
but still more I fancy of the fourteenth century, 
inscriptions were in Norman-French, which was 
the language of the Court. This tongue was 
chiefly affected by knights and ladies, whilst priests 
were, for the most part, held in memory in canoni- 
cal Latin. 

I have looked through the pages of Weever's 
Funereal Monuments, and find the following num- 
ber of inscriptions in Norman- French : diocese of 
Canterbury, two without date, and four of the 
years 1375, 1376, 1400, 1407, respectively ; dio- 
cese of Rochester, four without date, and one of 
each of the years 1354, 1360, 1367, 1309, 1375, 
1385, 1392, 1427 ; diocese of London, eight with- 
out date, two of 1375, two of 1400, and one of 
each of the years 1221, 1350, 1362, 1371, 1389, 
1396, 1399, 1414 ; diocese of Norwich, four with- 
out date, and one of the year 1373. 

There is only one monument, to my knowledge, 
in the hundred of Scarsdale, in this county, having 
a Norman-French inscription, and that is in the 
church of Barlow. It is to the memory of Julia, 
the wife of Adam Fraunceis, but the inscription is 
imperfect and without a date. I take it, however, 
to be of the third quarter of the thirteenth cen- 
tury, j. CHARLES Cox. 

Chevin House, Belper. 

The Rev. Samuel Hayman, in his published ac- 
count of the antiquities of Youghal, co. Cork, gives 
three of these inscriptions from ancient monuments 
there. They are all rather incomplete, owing to 
the monuments being defaced. One, which com- 
mences " Mathev : le : mercer : git : yci :" com- 
memorates Matthew Le Mercer, who was collector 
of customs at Youghal, and appears to have died 
there about the close of the thirteenth or beginning 



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of the fourteenth century. Mr. Hayman quotes 
the memoranda roll of the Exchequer of the 31st 
to the 35th year of Edward I., in which there is 
an entry relating to Martinus de Coumbe, the suc- 
cessor of Le Mercer in the office of collector. 

W. H. PATTERSON. 



NOTES ON BOOKS, &c. 

Christian Psychology: the Soul and the Body in their 
Correlation and Contrast. Being a New Translation of 
Swedenborg's Tractate, " De Oommercio Animze et 
Corporia, &c., Londini, 1769." With Preface and 
Illustrative Notes by T. M. Gorman, M.A., Hertford 
College, Oxford, some time Curate of St. Mary Abbotts, 
Kensington. (Longmans & Co.) 

WE feel ourselves bound to confess that we have but 
scanty acquaintance, in proportion to their dimensions, 
with the extensive philosophical researches of Sweden- 
borg, and that, therefore, the Tractate, of which the 
translation gives rise to this book, is to us we hope 
we may admit it without shame by no means easy of 
mental digestion. The Appendix, -which forms the bulk 
of this volume, is filled with extracts from physical and 
metaphysical writers, which are designed to illustrate 
and support some of Swedenborg's positions, or to exhibit 
the timid restrictions of material science as transcended 
by his soaring intellect. 

A perusal of this Appendix should be sufficient, we 
think, to convince any one who has not already attained 
conviction from a general acquaintance with the litera- 
ture of the subject, of the inscrutable nature of the ever- 
lasting problem of soul and body and of the unseen world. 
Mr. Gorman may sneer at the shadows and fallacies 
that becloud mere human reasonings, but on this, as on 
all other subjects, where are we to select our guides if not 
from amongst those who employ these despised weapons ] 
Religion, indeed, is above reason, and affords us lights 
which our unaided intellects could never attain. Sweden- 
borg himself laid claim to privileges of insight which are 
bestowed only on those few whom Divine Providence 
selects as the instruments by means of which we obtain 
glimpses of the world that is beyond our senses. It is 
for us to accept or to reject his and similar claims ; but 
to place the revelations of those who make the claims in 
competition with the theories of those who build upon 
nothing else than human observation is unfair to the one, 
and derogatory to the claims of the other class of in- 
formants. If we believe that to Swedenborg was accorded 
a view of heaven and hell, his revelations supersede and 
render unnecessary all mere human conjectures regarding 
the spiritual world. If, on the other hand, we place his 
assertions on the subject of this Tractate to the account 
of a mind brooding long over the questions that enchained 
its attention, we can set him in no higher rank than that 
of other gifted speculators, the result of whose labours, 
in the field of inquiry traversed by him, the Appendix to 
this book pretty well exhibits. 

Mr. Gorman is of opinion that Swedenborg's philo- 
sophical evolution was brought out by a special Divine 
call. If this opinion be correct, diatribes against unaided 
mortal speculations and theories are as superfluous as 
they are unkind. 

The Perlustralion of Great Yarmouth, witJi Gorleston 

and Southtown. By Charles John Palmer, F.S.A., &c. 

Vol. III. (Great Yarmouth, Hall.) 

TWICE already have we had occasion to speak in terms 

of deserved commendation of Mr. Palmer's well-directed 

labours to put into a form worthy of the ancient and 



interesting town of which he is a native, the result of 
the many years which he has devoted to the study of its 
records and history. On the appearance of the first 
volume, in May, 1872, we spoke of it (4 th S. ix. 4-37) as a 
local history of which the author's fellow townsmen 
might well be and ought to be proud. The second 
volume fully justified that eulogium; and now that 
Mr. Palmer has brought his labour of love to a close by 
the publication of a third volume, as rich in literary 
interest and as profusely illustrated, and made especially 
available by very complete Indices, we offer him our 
hearty congratulations on the success of his labours, and 
our best wishes that he may long be spared to enjoy 
the reputation which must ever attach to the authorship 
of The Perlusiration of Great Yarmouth. 

The Discrepancies of Freemasonry examined during a 
Week's Gossip with the late celebrated Brother GilLes, 
and other eminent Masons, on sundry Obscure and 
Difficult Passages in the ordinary Lodge Lectures, 
which, although open Questions in Grand Lodge, consti- 
tute a Source of Doubt and Perplexity to the Craft. 
By the Rev. G. Oliver, D.D. With numerous Diagrams. 
(Hogg & Co.) 

THIS title-page so fully explains the nature and object of 
this valuable work, we need only add that a good deal of 
amusement is mixed up with the instruction, and much 
playfulness with profound learning. 

The Annotated Boole of Common Prayer, forming a Con- 
cise Commentary on the Devotional System of the Church 
of England. By the Rev. J. H. Blunt, M.A., F.S.A. 
Compendious Edition. (Rivingtons.) 
So much has already been said in commendation of this 
most useful work of Mr. Blunt's that it only remains for 
us to thank him for having now placed it within reach 
of the many. We commend to our readers' attention 
Mr. Blunt's note on the Te Dtum, as " this most vene- 
rable hymn" has lately been a subject of discussion in 
these columna. How many church-goers are aware of 
the fact that the Jubilate was inserted originally as a 
substitute for the Benedictus, when the latter occurred 
in the Lesson or Gospel? Mr. Blunt writes: "The 
days on which it (the Jubilate] should be used are there- 
fore the following Feb. 18, June 17, June 24 (St. John 
Baptist's Day), Oct. 15. The general substitution of the 
Jubilate for the Benedictus is very much to be depre- 
cated." 

The New Quarterly Magazine. January, 1876. (Ward, 

Lock & Tyler.) ' 

THE only change made in this popular periodical con- 
sists in an increase of matter, and, as a new and special 
feature, a review of the literature of the preceding 
quarter. This is rather slashingly done ; but if the new 
censor is severe, he also has the sense of fairness which 
leads him to quote the various judgments of other critics 
on the same work. This is both novel and good. The 
whole number is full of interest to the scholar as well as 
to the general reader. Miss Cobbe and Miss Constance 
Rothschild distinguish themselves among the ladies ; an-I 
Mr. Mortimer Collins has a capital gossiping article on 
almanacs. A paper on ^Eschylus and Victor Hu0, 
signed R. B., should be read in conjunction with an 
essay on the former poet in the Cornhill Magazine. 

IN Time and Time-Tellers (Hardwicke) Mr. Benson 
has given a very interesting account of that manufacture 
with which his name is so intimately associated ; but, as 
modern workmanship is included in his general survey, 
we may be pardoned for remarking on the absence of all 
mention of the great clock at Westminster. Mr. Benson 
tells us that it is rumoured that St. James's Palace clock 
is shortly to be removed to the South Kensington 



60 



NOTES AND QUERIES. 



Museum. May we venture to express a hope that for 
the sake of venerable associations, the familiar old dials 
and chimes may remain untouched 1 

AUTHORS AND QUOTATIONS WANTED (5 th S. v. 19.) 

" Sitting by the poisoned," &c. 

In reply to T. W. C., the author asked for is, I believe, 
Siegfried Mahlmann. The following is a translation, by 
a young lady, of the stanza of which the lines quoted 
form part : 

" When the gloom is deepest round thee, 
When the bonds of grief have bound thee, 
And in loneliness and sorrow 

By the poisoned springs of life 
Thou sittest, yearning for a morrow 

That will free thee from the strife." 
If the remaining stanzas are desired, they will be found 
in Mrs. Gore's novel, Peers and Parvenus. 
" If Heaven be pleased," &c. 

The lines quoted by A. C. 0. have been applied to 
other persons besides Bonner. It is recorded that on a 
window at the inn at Aust Passage, near Bristol, was 
written the following : 

" On John Stokes, Attorney-at-Law, in New Inn, London. 
If Heaven be pleas'd when Sinners cease to Sin, 
If Hell be pleas'd when all the Danmd are in, 
If Earth be pleas'd when ridden of a Knave, 
Ul must be pleas'd when Stokes is in his Grave."' 

W. DlLKE. 

Chichester 



" So near, so very near to God," &c. 




Ill *>U. .11 HI tlJC 1 1 COL V LCI laii V^Uli^V^HJii. JL AW-ii. UV 

discover it in other hymn books of which I have copies 
and they are not few. HERMENTRUDE. 

' : THE LATE EDMUND LEKTHALL SWIFTE, ESQ." (I. L. S 
writes), ' was the younger son of Theophilus Swifte, Esq. 
of Goodrich, Herefordshire, and grandson of Deane Swifte 
Esq., of Worcester, and Castle Rickard, county Meath 
The latter gentleman was the nephew of the great Dean 
Although descended from the two great regicides, Mr 
Swifte was a royalist of the highest order. With bin 
loyalty was a principle, without which no man could be 
a gentleman. His attachment to the reigning dynast) 
made it a proud distinction for him to have borne arm 
in 1798. He was the eldest volunteer. An accomplishei 
scholar and authority on the English language, Mr 
Swifte had few equals. He has left a large and com 
parativcly young family to lament his loss. He lived tc 
see his descendants of the fifth generation. Born on 
June 20, 1777, dying on Dec. 28, 1875, he was conse 
quently in the ninety-ninth year of his age, and in pos 
session of bis great faculties." 

The Dublin Warder has the following additiona 
facts : " He was the last of a generation of the sam 
blood of extraordinary longevity, four of whom have die 
at, or very near, the same age, within the last twelv 
months. He was closely allied in kindred to the famil 
of Swifte, of Swifte's Heath, Kilkenny. He occupied fo 
the greater part of half a century a post of high trus 
under Government as Keeper of the Crown Jewels in th 
Tower of London. At an advanced age he retired on 
handsome pension, with the view of spending the rest < 
his days in the more genial climate of France. M 
Swifte married four wives, by each of whom he had 
family, amounting in the aggregate, it is said, to thirty 
He was the second son of Theophilus Swifte, a pugna 



.ous subject, who, besides having come to blows, literary 
s well as physical, with the principals of Trinity Col- 
jge, was wounded in a duel by Lennox, afterwards 
)uke of Richmond and Lord Lieutenant of Ireland." 

"NoT LOST, BUT GONE BEFORE." On this quotation 

correspondent sends us the following :" As to the 
eferring of this phrase to Seneca, is it generally known 
hat what he says in his Sixty-third Epistle, winding up 
f ith the expression, 'Fortasse, quern putaris periisse, 
rsemissus est,' is an amplification of what Antiphanes, 
ne of the Gnomic poets, wrote four centuries before him ? 
lis words are: 

, d\\a TIJV avrrjv bcov, i)v Traaiv 

ov, 7Tpoe\i]\v9a<nv. 
)r, in the translation, ' Nee enim perierunt, sed earn 
uam necessitas indixit cunctis, antevorterunt viam.' 
'ossibly Antiphanes was not the first to express the 
dea. " JOHN MACPHERSON." 

TEXT FOR INSCRIBING OVER A DINING-ROOM DOOR. 
' Whoso is liberal of his meat, men shall speak well of 

im ; and the report of his good housekeeping will be 
jelieved." Ecclesiasticus xxxi. 23. 

J. L. CLIFFORD SMITH. 



ov -yap 



t0 

C. M. TORLESSE (Stoke by Nayland.) Our learned 
correspondent, MR. F. G. STEPHENS, writes : " There 
s a copy of this broadside in the British Museum, Col- 
ection of Satirical Prints, No. 1465. When I catalogued 
;he same I made considerable search into all the county 
ir,d other local histories, wherever it appeared there 
ivas a chance of getting information. I had no success, 
and was forced to leave the thing as it is. Probably 
there is nothing to explain beyond what we may learn 
from the text, which is plain enough." 

A. M. D. Gibbon, in the fifty-fourth chapter of The 
History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, 
says, ' Luther maintained a corporeal, and Calvin a real, 
presence of Christ in the Eucharist ; and the opinion of 
Zuinglius, that it is no more than a spiritual communion, 
a simple memorial, has slowly prevailed in the Reformed 
churches." 

F. J. V. MR. SKEAT writes : "I had not observed 
the correction in the Two Noble Kinsmen suggested by 
F. J. V., or I would gladly have acknowledged it. The 
emendation occurred to me independently; and, as it is 
not difficult, I rather wonder that 31r. Dyce should have 
missed it." 

O. P. In 1793 the French revolutionary government 
prohibited the performance of Voltaire's Merope, on the 
ground that there was in it a queen in mourning, who 
lamented her dead husband, and desired the return of 
two absent brothers. 

W. WINTERS. The term quoted must have been ~ to 
what you suggest. 

E. K. You had better write to the papers of which 
you complain. 

C. A. W. See Tacitus for the origin of the phrase 
quoted by Earl Russell. 

T. AND J. TAYLOR. Forwarded to H. S. A. 

F. R. We should be glad to see the lines. 

A'OTICE. 

Editorial Communications should be addressed to " The 
Editor of 'Notes and Queries'" Advertisements and 
Business Letters to " The Publisher "at the Office, 20, 
Wellington Street, Strand, London, W.C. 

We beg leave to state that we decline to return com- 
munications which, for any reason, we do not print ; and 
to this rule we can make no exception. 



5 th S. V. JAN. 22, '76.] 



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LONDON, SATURDAY, JANUARY 12, 1876. 



CONTENTS. N 108. 

NOTES : Dr. Wilmot's Polish Princess, 61 Who Shot Nel- 
son V 63 Thomas Hill Jamieson-The Course of Thought 
contrary to the Course of Action Lines on the Letter H, 
64 Liberi Homines -Special Prayer Severe Winters 
" Tatter "Richard Harvey's Allusions to the Drama, 65 
Christian Names : Albert The Aspen in Ulster Inscrip- 
tions on Clock Faces -Football Boy \ Bishops Tavern 
Signs, 66. 

QUERIES : Sir Henry Wotton Lady Greenvill Pagano, or 
Parana of Naples-Major Francis Pierson, 67 Wilsford 
Family of Kent -Old School Book "Liber Veritatis" 
Soho Square The Order of the Camaldolites " Saturday 
Night's Club," 1743 Lord Chancellor Ellesmere The Use 
of the Pastoral Staff -"Omnis saltus," &c. G. Butler of 
Ballyraggett, Kilkenny Portrait Cockersand Abbey 
Althotas, 69. 

REPLIES : The O'Neills of France and Spain, 69" Brand- 
new" and "Spick and Span New," 70 "H&/ Kabanus 
Maurus Poets the Masters of Language, 72 Registrum 
Sacrum Batavianum, 73 St. Joseph Watch Seals Arch- 
deacons' Seals Shakspeare's Seal Ring-" Wilie Beguile" 
Mind your Ps and Qs, 74 Strawberry Leaves on Ducal 
Coronets Dr. Homer's " Bibliotheca Universalis Ameri- 
cana " Philadelphia Authors Christmas Mummers 
Whatton Family " Miltonis Epistola ad Pollionem" 
"The Present State of London "Irish Pronunciation of 
English Words, 75 London Bridge Numismatic " Firm- 
ing" R. Brandon, the Executioner " St. Irvyne ; or, the 
Rosicrucian " "Ness" Pre-Reformation Church Plate 
"Furmety" Hamoaze Title of "Right Honourable" 
Rev. Dr. George Walker, 76 Henry Clarke, LL.D. 
Shaking Hands Ghauts, 77 Louise Lateau The late 
Joseph Clark of Hull Dermid O'Meara, 78. 

Notes on Books, &c. 



DR. WILMOT'S POLISH PRINCESS. 

Among the many interesting topics discussed 
and questions investigated by the learned author 
of The Curiosities of Literature, Calamities of 
Authors, &c., I do not recollect any inquiry as to 
why many books came to be written : I allude 
more particularly to books on subjects quite foreign 
to the pursuits of the writers, and which may be 
said to owe their origin to accident. Yet the sub- 
ject is one which his extensive reading would have 
enabled him to treat amusingly and instructively. 

I believe literary men may often say with 
Hamlet, 

" There 's a divinity doth shape our ends, 
Rough-hew them how \ve may " ; 

and that circumstances often lead men to write 
what they never contemplated, and to leave un- 
written books on the preparation of which they 
have bestowed much thought, time, and labour. 

Nearly half a century ago, when I began to 
dabble in literature, some charming papers by Sir 
Walter Scott, Sir F. Palgrave, and others, on the 
" origin and diffusion of popular fictions," attracted 
my attention. The subject so fascinated me that 
I pursued it with earnestness, and was eventually 
rewarded by the discovery of what I then believed, 
and still believe, to be an important element in the 



aistory of the dissemination of popular traditions, 
which had been overlooked by those accomplished 
scholars, as it has been since by Keightley, Price, 
and other subsequent writers. 

Having given the subject much consideration, 
and collected what I thought strong evidence of 
he soundness of my views, I ventured to consult 
my kind and learned friend, the late Mr. Douce, 
and I was warmly encouraged by him to pursue my 
inquiries ; some years afterwards I received simi- 
lar advice from Dean Milman ; yet, though I have 
many " priefs of it in my note-book," formed a 
collection of books on the popular songs, legends, 
and superstitions of different nations perhaps un- 
rivalled, written a few papers on Shakspeare's 
Folk-lore, coined that same word folk-lore, and 
published a long and perhaps deservedly forgotten 
little book, Lays and Legends of Various Nations, 
all the time, thought, and labour bestowed by 
me on this subject has ended in nothing. 

But, though not a line has ever appeared of 
what I once hoped would win me some reputation, 
I have been led, partly by force of circumstances, 
pa.rtly by what I felt to be an act of duty, to pub- 
lish two books which I certainly never contem- 
plated. 

How, being neither physiologist nor statist, I 
was led to publish a volume, The Longevity of 
Man, developing, for the first time in a book 
devoted to the subject, those views which a me- 
dical dissentient from them has designated the 
"Thomsian theory," I pass by at the present 
moment. How, being neither lawyer nor politician, 
I have been led, I believe I may truly say, as an. 
act of duty to undertake the exposure of the in- 
numerable falsehoods of Mrs. Serres, is more ger- 
mane to the present communication. 

Two great lawyers, one a great politician, were 
accessories before the fact. When on a visit to 
Lord Brougham, in 1858, he gave me a copy of 
Mrs. Kyves's Appeal for Royalty, which had just 
been sent to him by post. I read it, and told 
him, when he asked my opinion of it, that I 
thought it just as absurd and untruthful as her 
mother's attempt to prove that Dr. Wilmot was 
" Junius," which I had read some twenty years be- 
fore. A long and curious conversation with Lord 
Brougham led me to feel an interest in the sub- 
ject which I had never felt before ; and when the 
Kyves trial took place in 1866, I watched its pro- 
gress with great curiosity. A day or two after its 
conclusion the Lord Chief Baron (Pollock) asked 
me if I had any copious history of Poland, and ex- 
plained that his object was to ascertain some par- 
ticulars of Poniatowski, whose sister or daughter 
Dr. Wilmot was said to have married. No such 
history exists to my knowledge ; but a reference to 
the Annual Eegister and Gentleman's Magazine 
gave me a few dates, and I promised the learned 
judge that I would endeavour to answer his query. 



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V.JAN. 22, 76. 



Happily I succeeded. In " N. & Q." of July 7, 
1866 (3 rd S. x. 1-3), the reader will find, on the 
best Polish authority, kindly furnished to me by 
Mr. Kalston, the eminent Sclavonic scholar, that 
Poniatowski had no sister whom Dr. Wilmot could 
have married ; and I went further, and showed 
that Poniatowski, having been only seventeen 
years of age in 1749, the date of the alleged mar- 
riage, could not have had a marriageable daughter. 
My interest in Mrs. Serres's falsehoods being 
thus stimulated, I next investigated her wicked 
scandals about George III. and the Fair Quaker. 
The result was that, in " N. & Q." of February, 
1867, I proved the whole story of Hannah Light- 
foot to be a myth as far as concerned George III., 
and, in the interest of truth, felt it my duty to 
reprint my discovery in the little volume which 
appeared in 1867, under the title of Hannah 
Lightfoot ; Queen Charlotte and the Chevalier 
If Eon ; Dr. Wilmot's Polish Princess. And this 
is the second book published by me under the 
force of circumstances, and the publication of 
which I certainly never contemplated. 

The result of these investigations was to intensify 
my interest in the story of Princess Olive, which 
was increased by my purchase, at the sale of Mr. 
Robert Cole's MSS., of a large mass of original 
letters and documents connected with Mrs. Serres 
and the knaves aud dupes who were her associ- 
ates. Among these are papers and letters of 
Serres, including his will and the deed of separa- 
tion ; some 200 letters of Mrs. Serres to Lady Anne 
Hamilton, and MSS. in that lady's handwriting ; 
a sort of autobiography of the Eev. William 
Groves, who pretended he was the Prince of 
Monaco, and copies of his numerous letters to 
ministers, advocating the claim of the Princess ; 
curious letters by Mr. Strange Petre, who some- 
times called himself Fitz-Strathearn, sometimes 
Fitz-Clarence, and thirty-two printed pages of 
letters addressed by him to a lady of title, and so 
printed no doubt for the purpose of extorting 
money from her or from her family ; also various 
other papers connected with the Princess too 
numerous to mention. 

I have since from time to time exposed the 
utter falsity of many of Mrs. Serres's statements. 
I do not believe there is one which I cannot 
equally demolish, and I hope to be permitted to 
perform a duty which I feel I owe to the Crown 
and the nation, even though by so doing I offend 
those enlightened patriots who compound for their 
abuse of royalty by their patronage of those who 
are only pretenders to it. 

After replying to the shake of the head which 
this statement may evoke from some <rave 
reader, 

" A Iy A ulse M yours does tem Perately keep time 
And beats as healthful music," 

I will give him an account of a curious fact which 



I have just discovered, and which deserves a place 
in a future history of imposture. 

It is a strong proof of Mrs. Ryves's justifica- 
tion in believing the public had forgotten all 
about Mrs. Serres's absurd claim, that, when she 
revived it nearly half a century later, she had 
the audacity to start, as her mother had done 
before her, with the marriage of Dr. Wilmot to 
the Polish Princess ; and Mrs. Kyves must have 
known, though nobody else in court, including the 
learned counsel, knew it, that the Polish Princess 
had been proved to be a nonentity as long ago as 
1825! 

Those who, like myself, are unfortunately old 
enough to remember the Princess Olive will 
remember that one of her rivals in notoriety was 
Mr. ex-Sheriff Parkins. This gentleman had a 
reputation for gallantry, recorded in a pungent 
epitaph which some of your readers may recollect, 
while on the other hand he was charged with 
having given to her husband an amatory epistle 
which he had received from Mrs. Serres. As the 
letter, a very characteristic one, has been published 
in other places besides the Memoir of Serres (p. 37), 
and as there is no reason to believe that the sheriff 
was guilty of the conduct imputed to him, there is 
no necessity for its reproduction here. 

That the sheriff was at one time a believer in 
Mrs. Serres there is little doubt ; but the delusion 
did not last long, and his love must have been 
violent, to judge from the violent hate to which it 
turned. I have now before me a cutting from a 
newspaper (name unknown), which contains a long 
vituperative letter from the ex-sheriff, dated De- 
cember 29, 1824, in which he speaks of having 
" some years ago, in a letter written to a morning 
paper, denounced as forgeries " the documents pro- 
duced by her, and having since " produced con- 
vincing proofs that the Duke of Cumberland could 
not be her father." But the interest of the letter 
turns upon the contradiction, complete and satis- 
factory, which it furnishes to the absurd story of 
Dr. Wilmot having married a sister of Poniatowski. ' 

The object of the letter is to publish the ex- 
sheriffs correspondence with the Countess Tysz- 
kiewiez, a niece of Poniatowski, who was in 
England in the autumn of 1824. Mr. Parkins 
took advantage of her being in London to address 
in inquiry _ respecting her uncle's visit to this 
country, which concludes with the following pas- 
sage : 

'Was Stanislaus, the late King of Poland, ever in 
England ? If so, in what year did he come, and in what 
year did he return to Poland ? Had King Stanislaus a 
sister styled Princess Poniatowska 1 If so, did she come 
to England with her brother the king? and if she 
returned to Poland 1 and if so, did she ever acknowledge 
to have been married while in England 1 " 

To these categorical questions the folio win or 
reply from the Princess is short and complete : 



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From the Princess Poniatowska to J. W. Parkins, Es'. 
" Londres, le 22 Oct. 

" J'ai reu, monsieur, la lettre que vous m'avez fait 
1'honneur de m'ecrire, avec les papiers et les questions 
qui y etaient jointes. Le feu Roi de Pologne, Stanislaus 
Auguste, a tres positivement ete en Angleterre dans sa 
jeunesse, niais jamais aucune de sea soeurs n'est venue en 
Angleterre a aucune epoque. Voila ce que je puis cer- 
tifier. Je pense, monsieur, avoir satisfait par ces reponses 
a votre desir ; et suis avec la plus parfaite estime tout a 
vous, La Comtesse Tyszkiewiez, 

Princesse Poniatowska." 

Encouraged by the courtesy of the countess, the 
sheriff again wrote to her ; but, owing to her 
return to Paris, the letter did not reach her for some 
time. To that letter, in which he requested her 
to reply to him " with your signature in full, and 
seal attached to certify the same, as also the 
number, ages, and titles of the late King Stanis- 
laus's sisters," the following is the lady's reply : 
" Paris, Novembre 15, 1824. 

" Je vous demande pardon, monsieur, de la distraction 
qui m'a fait emporter, sans le savior le paquet que vous 
m'avez fait 1'honneur de m'adresser la veille de mon 
depart de Londres. Quant au deux lettres du 25 et 26 
Octobre, dontjeregois a 1'instant le duplicate, en date 
du 12 Novembre, je ne les ai point reQues. Je m'empresse 
de vous renvoyer les lettres de la soi-disante Princesse 
Olivia, que vous reclamez, et j'y joins ici 1'assertion la 
plus positive que jamais aucune de mes tantes, soeurs du 
feu Roi Stanislaus Auguste, n'a ete en Angleterre ni 
avec ni sans lui. C'est la, je pense, monsieur, 1'affirma- 
tion que vous de'sirez, et a laquelle je joins 1'assurance de 
ma plus parfaite estime. 

(Signe) La Comtesse Tyszkiewiez, 

Princesse Poniatowska." 

The alleged marriage of Dr. Wilmot to a kins- 
' woman of Poniatowski is the foundation on which 
the whole superstructure of Mrs. Serres's claim to 
be Olive, Princess of Cumberland, was founded. 

I have now shown that, so long since as 1824, 
it was proved on the highest authority that Ponia- 
towski had no such kinswoman, therefore the whole 
superstructure falls to the ground. 

And yet, in 1866, Mrs. Eyves could bring 
forward this absurd claim in a court of justice, 
and instruct her counsel learned in the law to 
open her case with the marriage of Dr. Wilmot to 
Princess Poniatowski. 

Surely the force of impudence could no further 



go 



WILLIAM J. THOMS. 



40, St. George's Square, S.W. 



WHO SHOT NELSON? 

"Adventures of the 'French Sergeant' who claimed 
to have Shot Nelson and to have all but Witnessed the 
Assassination of Admiral Villeneuve." 

A short article in the Daily Telegraph of 
Dec. 28, 1875, suggested by the death, at Hamp- 
ton Court Palace, of Miss Hardy, the daughter of 
Nelson's " Hardy," has just come before me. In 
it the relics of Nelson are alluded to, and the ball 
which killed him (now with its setting in the pos- 



session of her Majesty, the gift of the niece of Sir 
Wm. Beatty, M.D.) is noticed as one " likely to 
reawaken the curious controversy regarding the 
hand by which Nelson fell." The article thus 
refers to the Memoirs of a French Sergeant, " an 
English translation of which was published by Mr. 
Colburn some forty years since," in which "the 
writer distinctly and impudently claimed the 
honour of having slain the scourge of the French 
navy. He was armed, he said, with a ship's 
musket, and fired at random, but was much over- 
joyed when he saw the English lord ' drop/ " I 
possess a rather rare collection of naval memora- 
bilia, having had relatives who distinguished 
themselves in the service, and among my books 
have the work alluded to, the correct title of which 
is, Adventures of a French Sergeant during his 
Campaigns in Italy, Spain, Germany, Russia, 
&c., from 1805 to 1823, with the English editor's 
preface. It was published in 1827 (fifty years 
a g) by Henry Colburn, of New Burlington Street. 

The writer of the article doubtless wrote of this 
work from memory, and therefore his slight 
exaggeration of Robert Guillemard's (for such is 
the name he gives) self-glorification at his shot 
fired from the tops of the Eedoubtable, "at 
hazard," among the officers near Nelson, on the 
poop of the Victory having hit the admiral, 
whom he recognized by his orders and loss of one 
arm, is pardonable. The claimant of the invidious 
honour, if one reads the account published by Col- 
burn, rather excites surprise at his abstinence from 
crying, " Ha ! ha ! " over an enemy, and says that 
"though the shot that had brought down this 
admiral had rendered a service to my country, I 
was far from considering it an action of which I 
had a right to boast. Besides, in the general con- 
fusion every one could claim the honour ; I might 
not be believed ; so that I was afraid of furnish- 
ing my companions with a subject of ridicule, and 
did not think proper to mention it to them, nor 
to the French officers I saw on board the Victory." 

I do not wish to call special attention to the 
above, for the subject may have been exhausted, 
but to make it prefatory to asking if another state- 
ment made by the " French Sergeant " in his 
Adventures ever gained any worthy belief. He 
states that he was amanuensis to Villeneuve on 
board the Victory, after his capture, and that, on 
his having obtained liberty to return to France, he 
travelled to Morlaix with the admiral, thence to 
Rennes, where Villeneuve was assassinated, and 
that he was all but a witness to the act, heard 
the assassins departing from the bedchamber, too 
late to give assistance to Villeneuve, whom he 
found with " five deep wounds piercing his breast." 
Ee then tells of his arrival at Paris, and his being 
sent for and examined by Napoleon as to the cir- 
cumstances of the death. Would any contributor 
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ever ground stated on reliable evidence of an 
act of murder having ended Villeneuve's days, 
rather than the general belief that he died by 
suicide ? I may add that the " French Sergeant 
states that he was a conscript soldier, and that his 
service on the Kedoubtable was his first taste of 
battle. A - L ' ft 

THOMAS HILL JAMIESON. 

It was with a feeling of the deepest regret > that 
I learned, from an appreciative obituary notice in 
the Scotsman of the 10th instant, of the death, on 
the 9th, of my lamented friend T. Hill Jamieson, 
the keeper of the Advocates' Library. His loss 
has affected me more than I can express, and 
leaves a scar that even time will not efface. Mu- 
tual sympathy in study made us acquainted, and 
a few hours' conversation was sufficient to_ show 
us that however little we knew upon the subject of 
our especial study, as compared to what we de- 
sired to know, at least we had devoted the atten- 
tion of love to the object we had pursued. Plea- 
sant, indeed, were the first hours passed in literary 
retrospect, and reciprocal the delight to find that 
each had been over the same ground, the sounding 
of one another's knowledge of books and authors, 
till wo separated, like two fencers, each of whom 
had obtained advantages sufficient to convince the 
other of his opponent's devotedness to his art. 
This is the simple truth, though it may appear 
egotistical, and the result was an acquaintance 
which was kept alive by correspondence from time 
to time. I little thought how serious was his ill- 
ness when he wrote to me a few months ago that he 
had been on the Continent for the benefit of his 
health, but had returned rather worse than better. 

He was most careful and conscientious in his 
work. When editing the Ship of Fools I obtained 
for him, that he might be accurate, an office copy 
of Alexander Barclay's will from Doctors' Com- 
mons. In 1872 he issued a prospectus of Halkett's 
great and, so many deaths has it seen, I might 
almost say fatal work on the Anonymous and 
Pseudonymous Authors of Great Britain, noticed 
))y me in your number for May 18, 1872. The 
task of editing the MS. proved far greater 
than had been anticipated, and, in spite of the 
most arduous work which Jamieson's co-editor, 
Mr. Laing, has devoted to it, no further announce- 
ment as to its progress has been made during the 
last three years. 

Jamieson was always engaged upon some 
laborious undertaking, the editing of the new 
printed Catalogue of the Advocates' Library (as 
to which I published a note in your number for 
May 8 of last year) alone being sufficient to occupy 
the time and energies of a large staff. Having 
read nearly every line of this, so far as printed, I 
oan testify to the great care of the joint editors, 
Halkett and Jamieson ; at the same time bein^ 



aware that it is far from realizing the ideal cata- 
logue which both would have desired. 

The Scotsman informs us that he was born in 
"August, 1843." The same paper on June 12, 
1872, announced his marriage, on the day previous, 
to Jane Alison Kilgour, who, with two sons, sur- 
vives him, to mourn his premature loss at the 
early age of thirty-two. Should I be spared, 
Jamieson's sons, in future years, may rely on one 
friend at least for their father's sake. 

KALPH THOMAS. 

38, Doughty Street, W.C. 



THE COURSE OP THOUGHT CONTRARY TO THE 
COURSE OF ACTION. I have met with two curious 
translations in our A. V. which are not altogether 
indefensible if taken as illustrations of this strange 
phenomenon. 

1. Acts v. 30: '0 0eo5 TCOV irarkpuv 
rjycipev 'I^crouv, oV -lyzets Sie)(ei/H emerg 
cravrc? 7rt ^v\ov. "The God of our fathers 
raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a 
tree. 1 " The translators almost invariably turn an 
aorist participle into a co-ordinate verb, preceding 
the main verb of the Greek. But here it is rather 
amusing to notice that the comparatively unusual 
position of the participle after the principal verb 
has caused translators to bring out a va-repov 
Trporepov in their version. I think that, to say 
the least, this might lead to some misconception of 
the truth in the case of a misinformed reader. 

2. Eph. v. 26 : iva OLVTTJV ayida-y, KaOapicras 
T(O Aoi'rpo) TOV 7'Saros (.v prj/j^dTi. f " That he 
might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of 
water by the word." Here the action of cleansing 
is exactly coterminous and simultaneous with that 
of washing. But the mistake, if such it may be 
called, is exactly parallel with the former. I have 
heard this called a serious mistranslation, which it 
certainly is not, although it would have been 
better rendered differently. 

The well-known passage from the ^neid, 
" Moriamur et in media arrna ruamup-," is about 
the best instance of this figure of speech that I 
know of. The other quotations cited above are 
perfect instances in the Greek, albeit that the 
language used is ordinary enough. It is when co- 
ordinate verbs are employed that the trope becomes 
striking, as a conjunction nearly always implies 
an order in action which corresponds to the order 
of the words. 

Deduction and induction may be well explained 
by this means, the former being the scientific ex- 
pression of the course of thought, the latter of the 
course of action. DUNELMENSIS. 

LINES ON THE LETTER H. The following lines 
on " poor letter H " have been given me by a 
lady who is not actually a native of the county in 
question, but of an adjoining one. I do not re- 



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member ever to have seen them before, and as they 
are perhaps also new to many of your readers, ] 
send them to " N. & Q." for their amusement : 
Remonstrance from the Letter II to the Inhabitants of 

Shropshire. 

" Whereas by you we have been driven 
From hearth and home, from hope and heaven, 
And placed by your most learn'd society 
In exile, anguish, and anxiety, 
We hereby claim full restitution, 
And beg you '11 mend your elocution." 

A nswer from, the Inhabitants of Shropshire. 
*' Whereas we 've rescued you, ingrate, 
From hell, from horror, and from hate, 
From hedgebill, horsepond, and from halter, 
And consecrated you in altar, 
We think your claim is an intrusion, 
And will not mend our elocution." 

JONATHAN BOUCHIER. 

LIBERI HOMINES. In the History of Land- 
holding, just published by one of your correspon- 
dents, Mr. Fisher, there occurs rather an impor- 
tant discussion as to the character of the allegiance 
sworn to the Conqueror by the liberi homines, at 
the meeting at Salisbury in 1086. 

On the one hand are ranged the names of Sir 
Martin Wright, Sir William Blackstone, Hallam, 
and Freeman ; and on the other are those of Mr. 
Stubbs and the author of the History of Land- 
holding, to which I may add that of Finlason, in 
Reeves' s History of English Law. 

The point involved is best conveyed in the 
words of Hallam on the one side, and Finlason on 
the other. Hallam (Europe, p. 527, Murray) says : 

"William received at Salisbury in 1085 (sic) the fealty 
of all landholders in England, both those who held in 
chief and their tenants, thus breaking in upon the feudal 
compact in its most essential attribute, the exclusive 
dependence of a vassal upon his lord." 

_ Finlason, in a note to Eeeves's History of Eng- 
lish Law (vol. i. p. 54, note 6), writes : 

" 2s T o sudden or sweeping change in our institutions 
was effected, and the tenure of land, except so far as re- 
garded those who held under military tenure, was left 
unaffected. The charter of the Conqueror, indeed, im- 
posed an oath of allegiance upon all freemen ; but alle- 
giance implies protection." 

Mr. Stubbs does not seem to attach much im- 
portance to this point, for he does not speak at all 
decisively, though Mr. Fisher claims this au- 
thority for his point of view ; and, as the position 
of the liberi homines is intimately connected with 
the question of the influence of feudalism in Eng- 
land, and has been so much discussed by consti- 
tutional historians, it is important to know what 
new light can be thrown upon the transactions 
which took place at the meeting at Salisbury above 
referred to. _ Feudalism was distinctly an effect 
of the collision of Eoman law with barbaric cus- 
tom, and therefore would be less predominant in 
England than on the Continent. The words of 
Hallam seem to imply that William destroyed 



feudalism, while the usual inference is that he 
introduced or rather intensified it, which is quite 
compatible with Finlason's remark as above. 

G. LAURENCE GOMME, F.R.H.S. 

SPECIAL PRAYER. The following, from the 
Exeter Western Times, of December 31, 1875, 
ought to be recorded for the benefit of posterity. 
Pynes is a few miles from Exeter : 

" The state of the Revenue, as revealed in an antici- 
patory article on it in the Times, gives joy to our Right 
Hon. .Neighbour, the Chancellor of the Exchequer, and 
will be taken as an answer to the Special Prayer put up 
in Pynes Church, to the effect * that Divine Providence 
would be pleased to give prosperity to the financial 
affairs of this great Country, in order that an Illustrious 
Parishioner might enjoy the blessings of this hallowed 
season undisturbed by apprehensions of an adverse 
reckoning at the end of the Financial Year.' The Times 
says that the latest reckoning of the several returns 
shows that the state of the Revenue is more favourable 
than was expected. There is an addition of half a million 
to the total increase for the year, and the Budget esti- 
mate is substantially exceeded, which augurs well for the 
conclusion of the year." 

A. R. B. 

SEVERE WINTERS. It may interest some of 
your readers to mention that, about the Christmas 
of 1645, the cold was so intense that three men out 
of the forces of Colonels Birch and Morgan 
perished in the snow, during the night march which 
led to the surprise and capture of Hereford (Lords' 
Journals, Dec. 22) ; the river Wye being then so 
hard frozen at that place as to admit of the escape 
of several persons across it, among whom was the 
Koyalist governor, Col. Barnabas Scudamore. 

T. W. WEBB. 

" TATTER." During the course of a trial at the 
recent Winter Gaol Delivery at Leeds, a witness 
said that the prisoner described himself to her as 
a " tatter," and as having been out " tatting." On 
being asked for an explanation, she described a 
" tatter " as " a man who went about picking up 
old rags and such-like." This curious word, which 
appears exactly equivalent to the French chiffonnier, 
seems worthy a note in " N. & Q." 

MIDDLE TEMPLAR. 

EICHARD HARVEY'S ALLUSIONS TO THE DRAMA. 
In Richard Harvey's Lambe of God, Lond., 
1590, there are several allusions to contemporary 
iterature which I have never seen quoted. 

In one of his long-winded sentences this very 
affected writer has the following string of com- 
parisons : 

" As far asunder as the tales of mort Arthur and the 
>ookes of Moses, as the golden legend of Iron saints and 
;he Actes of the Apostles, as the scenes of Davus and 
he Psalmes of David, as the writings of Martin and the 
vorks of an honest man." P. 55. 

It is probable, I think, that in Davus Harvey 
lad some particular person in view. Remembering 



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the nature of the reference made, or reputed to 
have been made, by Greene to Shakspeare, one is 
almost tempted to believe that the disparaging epi- 
thet may have been intended for him. On the 
other hand, the antithetical point of the compa- 
rison seems to require that Marlow should be 
inferred. Or was it Lilly, the old antagonist oJ 
Gabriel, a supposition which is perhaps favoured 
by the introduction of Martin as climax'? In 
another place Harvey, who seems to have inherited 
all the family talent for scolding, calls Martin " a 
bloody massacrer and cut-throat in jester's apparel.' 
Many passages of the book seem to be indirectly 
levelled at Marlow and his school. Writing of 
the irreligious tendency of the popular literature 
and stage, Harvey says : 

" The heathen writers themselves never set any men 
but the vaynest and maddest of all the rest against their 
Priestes, which men either lived in reproach or came to 
shame, or for the time were generally reputed reproach- 
full and shamefull men, as may appear in their gigan- 
tomachies and theomachies, commonly made even of 
poets, in reverence of religion, the causes of greatest 
mischiefs and sorowes, to which end and purpose all 
the most ancient tragedies hare been written even every 
one of them, as R, Harvey hath proved in his Logical 
and Enthymematicall Analysis dedicated to the valiant 
and vertiious nolle Lord, the Earle of Essex" P. 147. 
The italics are Harvey's. 

This refers, I suppose, to his Epliemeron, pub- 
lished in 1583. Some one who is fortunate enough 
to have access to this very rare book should care- 
fully examine it for any incidental allusions to our 
early drama. 

Nashe calls Harvey a " theologicall gimpanado," 
and his "sheepish discourse" of the Lambe of 
(rod, "a dish of divinitie brewesse which the dogs 
would not eate" (Apologia of Pierce Pennilesse, 
Lond., 1503). The same writer tells us that " Kit 
Marloe was wont to say that Richard Harvey was 
an asse, good for nothing but to preach of the Iron 
Age." Most of Harvey's readers will be of the 
same opinion. 0. ELLIOT BROWNE. 

CHRISTIAN NAMES : ALBERT. It is a common 
opinion that this name was not used in England 
before the marriage of the Queen with her late 
consort. It is not so, however. In (Dring's) Cata- 
logue of the Lords, Knights, and Gentlemen that 
hare Compounded for their Estates, Svo., 1655, 
p. 51, occurs the name of Albert Hodsham, a recu- 
sant. His fine was 53Z. (is. 8(7. Halbert was in 
Scotland in the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries 
by no means an uncommon Christian name. 

K. P. D. E. 

THE ASPEN IN ULSTER. It is remarkable how 
few nurserymen in Ireland know the right names 
of the trees and shrubs which they cultivate and 
sell. This is especially the case with the different 
species of poplars. The aspen in particular, though 
far from uncommon, is quite unknown by that 



name, so far as I have observed, in Ulster. At 
last one man puzzled me by speaking of a " quig- 
genespy," by which I found that he meant " quaking 
aspen." S. T. P. 

INSCRIPTIONS ON CLOCK FACES. It has occurred 
to me that, following the " Inscriptions on Bells," 
some on clock faces would be found both curious 
and interesting to the readers of "^N. & Q." I 
append, as a beginning, the following that have 
come under my notice : 

" I serve thee here with all my might ; 
I tell the hour both day and night. 
If thou wilt example take by me, 
Serve tby God as I serve thee." 
" Here my master bids me stand 
And mark the time with faithful hand. 
What is his will is my delight, 
To serve him well by day and night. 
Master, be wise, and learn of me 
To serve thy God as I serve thee." 

G. H. A. 
Pendleton. 

FOOTBALL. As this game is now so popular at 
most of our public schools, it may interest many 
to know what a thoughtful and intelligent man 
wrote about it in the reign of Henry VIII. , before 
Stubbes denounced it so vehemently in Queen 
Elizabeth's time : 

" Some men wolde say that in the mediocritie, which 
I have soo moche praysed in shootynge, why shuld not 
bouling, claishe pynnes, and koytynge, be as moche com- 
mended ] Veryly as for the two laste, be to be vtterly 
abiected of all noble men, in lyke wyse foote balle, 
wherein is nothynge but beastely fury, and extreme 
violence, whereof procedeth hurte, and consequently 
rancour and malice do remayn with them that be 
wounded, wherefore it is to be put in perpetual sylence." 
Sir T. Elyot's Governor (1537 ed.), f. 93. 

E. E. 

Boston, Lincolnshire. 

BOY BISHOPS. In the Book of the Household 
of Algernon Percy, Earl of Northumberland, in 
the year 1512, are the following entries : 

" Item. My lord usith and accustomyth yerely when his 
lordship is at home, to yef unto the barne bishop (bairn 
bishop) of Beverley when he comith to my lord in Christ- 
mas hally-dayes, when my lord keepeth his house at 
Lukynfield, xxs. 

" Item. My lord usith and accustomyth to gif yerely. 
when his lordship is at home, to the barne bishop of 
York when he comes over to my lord in Chrystynmass 
hally-dayes, as he is accustomed yerely, xxs." 

J. N. B. 

TAVERN SIGNS." Appii Forum," at Cribyn, in 
Cardiganshire ; " Cow and Scissors," in the Glebe- 
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[We must request correspondents desiring informatio 
on family matters of only private interest, to affix the 
names and addresses to their queries, in order that th 
answers may be addressed to them direct.] 

SIR HENRY WOTTON. The admirable pastora 
letter, which the Bishop of Winchester has jus 
addressed to his clergy, recalls to mind " tha 
useful apothegm," as Izaak Walton terms it, whic 
Sir Henry Wotton caused to be inscribed on hi 
tomb in the chapel of Eton College : 

" Hie jacet hujus sententiae primus author, 
Disputandi pruritus, Ecclesiarum scabies. " 

If this was applicable to the religious controversie 
of the seventeenth century, it is scarcely less so to 
those of the nineteenth. We can but hope tha 
the " ecclesise scabies " will no% as it did in the 
seventeenth, eat up the substance of the Church 
and issue in the entire dissolution of it. Izaak 
Walton admits that the claim of Sir H. Wotton to 
the authorship of this pregnant sentence cannot 
be sustained, " as it was known long before his 
time," and must have been met with by Sir H 
Wotton in the course of his extensive reading 
But he urges an ingenious and charitable apology 
for the mistake by saying that " his mind (i. e. al 
the close of his life) was then so fixed upon that 
part of the communion of saints which is above, 
that an holy lethargy did surprise his memory." 
He also suggests that possibly 

"Almighty God was then pleased to make him a 
prophet, to tell the Church militant, and particularly 
that part of it in this nation, where the weeds of con- 
troversy grow to be daily more numerous, and where 
men have consciences that boggle at ceremonies, and 
yet scruple not to speak and act such sins as the antient 
Christians believed it to be a sin to think ; and where, 
as our reverend Hooker saith, ' Former simplicity and 
meekness of spirit is not now to be found, because zeal 
hath drowned charity, and skill meekness.' It will be 
good to think that these sad changes have proved this 
epitaph to be a useful caution unto us of this nation, 
and the sad effects thereof in Germany have proved it to 
be a mournful truth." 

I have ventured to give these valuable sentences 
at length, as bearing so forcibly upon the present 
-condition of the religious world ; but my object is 
rather to inquire, from some of your learned corre- 
spondents, the real history of " this prudent and 
pious sentence, which discovers the disposition 
and preserves the memory of its author," and to 
learn who was the author of it, and what is the 
earliest source to which it can be traced. 

G. B. B. 
Chester. 

[In Mr. Maxwell Lyte's recently published History of 
Eton College, 1480-1875 (Macmillan), the epitaph is thus 
given : 

" Hie jacet hujus sententiae primus author, 
Disputandi pruritus fit Ecclesiarum scabies, 

Nomen alias quaere." 
Mr. Lyte adds that the above " waa the simple inscrip- 



tion which Sir Henry Wotton composed for his own 

tombstone The stone has since been moved, and 

now forms part of one of the steps leading into the 
choir."] 

LADY GREENVILL. In the college chest there are 
more than a dozen letters, some merely fragments, 
signed Mary Howard, addressed between 1639- 
1642 to Mr. George Cutteford of Walradden, 
Devon, her agent. My predecessor, Dr. J. M. 
Neale, in his History of Sackville College, ascribes 
these letters to Lady Greehvill, the wife of Sir 
Richard Greenvill, the Royalist leader, who, ac- 
cording to Clarendon, " prevailed with a rich widow 
to marry him, who had be :n a lady of extraordinary 
beauty, which she had not yet outlived ; and 
though she had no great dower by her husband, a 
younger brother of the Earl of Suffolk, yet she 
inherited a fair fortune of her own, near Plymouth; 
and was besides very rich in a personal estate, and 
was looked upon as the richest match of the West." 
Any information respecting this lady will greatly 
oblige THE WARDEN. 

Sackville College, East Grinstead. 

PAGANO, OR PAGANA, OF NAPLES. Can any of 
your readers, learned in the genealogia of the Two 
Sicilies, inform me whether there be living de- 
scendants of this ancient Neapolitan family 1 
Part of its history, down to the middle of the 
seventeenth century, is given by Signor Filiberto 
Dampanile in his Armi overo Insegne dei Nobili 
dei Napoli, 1681. From this work, and from the 
archives of the church of S. Giovanni di Sala 
sopra Forenza in Basilicata, it appears that the 
bunder of this family (to which belonged the 
famous Hugo de Paganus, the founder of the Order 
of the Knights Templars) was a member of the 
louse of Paganus de Sancto Karilefo, and was a 
ompanion of Tancred the Norman, in his Sicilian 
xpedition in the eleventh century. By the Actus 
^ontificum Cosnomannensium we learn that the 
'amily of Paganus was in existence at St. Carilef 
the modern St. Calais, department of Sarthe, on 
;he river Anille) so early as the second century of 
he Christian era, when the representative of that 
louse gave to St. Turribius, the second Bishop of 
Mans, land whereon to found a monastery (see 
Iso Le Dictionnaire Geographique de M. La- 
wrtiniere, sub voce Saint Calais). But is the 
Neapolitan branch of the family still in existence ; 
nd, if so, where are its representatives to be 
bund ? HAMON LAFFOLEY, B.A. 

MAJOR FRANCIS PIERSON fetl gloriously on 
January 6, 1781, at Jersey, whilst defending the 
sland against the enemy, led by Baron de Rulle- 
ourt, of the French army. Pierson's father resided 
t the time at York. Can any person inform me 
whether any members of this family are living ] 

JOHN SULLIVAN. 
Homesdale, Jersey. 



68 



NOTES A'ND QUERIES. 



[5 th S. V. JAN. 22, 76. 



WILSFORD FAMILY or KENT. In the British 
Museum is to be found " A Copie of the Visitation 
Book of the County of Kent, as taken by John 
Philpot, Eouge Dragon, Marshal and Deputy to 

I 



Win. Camden, Clarencieux, Annis 1619, 1620, and 
1621," with additions and an index by Edward 
Hasted, author of The History of Kent. Herein 
appears the pedigree of Wilsford, ending thus : 



James Wilsford, died Elizabeth, d. and co- 
in his father's life- | heir of Manwaring, 
time. of Cheshire. 



Anne TouchedEdward Wils-=Elizabeth, d. of 
dau. of Lord | ford. Bargrave. 

Castlehaven. I 



Sir James Wils- = -Elizabeth, d. of 
ford, Knt. of | Sir Edvv. Fish, 
lleden. of Bedford, Knt. 

Thomas Wilsford, 
set. 4, 1663. 



Mary, 1st wife, bur._Robert Wils-_ ... dau. of Sir Robert 
in Rochester Ca- ford. | Faunce, Knt., 2nd 

thedrul. wife. 

Robert Wilsford, d. in^... 
his father's lifetime. I 

Robert Wilsford, an 
infant, 1764. 



Particulars respecting the family, subsequent to j Boydell of London. They have been estimated 
the last dates, are requested. 



OLD SCHOOL BOOK. When my father first 
went to school, in the early part of the present 
century, he used a book which he has still, and he 
is very desirous to know who was the author of it. 
At p. 1 is " A Compendious English Grammar, 
divided into short lessons." This extends to 
p. 38, and forms Part I. 

P. 39, Part II. History of the kings of England, 
and the most remarkable events of each reign. 
Each sovereign from William the Conqueror to 
George II. has a quatrain, e.g., 

" William, a spurious branch of Rollo's race, 
From Norman's duke to England's king we trace ; 
He conquer'd Saxon Harold, seiz'd the throne, 
Wao brave, but proud, and partial to his own/ 

a character of the sovereign, and " Remarkable 



C. C. G. i at a very high value, and I am desirous to know 
the real value. They are in fine condition, bound 
in whole calf. Y. S. M. 



SOHO SQUARE. As the word Soho has been of 
difficult etymology, I beg to refer the readers of 
" N. & Q." to the MS., No. 392, vol. xiv., of the 
Lambeth Palace Library, seen by me to-day 
(Jan. 7), containing a letter, anno 1695, from 
Eose Street, St. Hoe's Square. Was this a cor- 
ruption of Hugh, Huon, Hoel, Hubert, &c., brought 
by the recent French immigrants after the revoca- 
tion of the Edict of Nantes in 1685 to that vicinity?: 

S. M. DRACH. 



THE ORDER or THE CAMALDOLITES. To what 
book must I refer for a detailed history of this 
religious order? It was founded, I believe, in the- 

Events." Under George III. there are only the j eleventh century, by St. Eomualdo. Any infor- 
style and titles. [ mation respecting it will greatly oblige. 

P. 81, Part III. Geography. This includes a I F. C. V. 

description of each county, with its curiosities. , T _ ... 

P. 148, Part IV. A chronological table. Ex- i SATURDAY NIGHT s CLUB," 1743. Was this 
tends from the creation of the world to 1776 i an actors ' society ? Who was interested in it ? 

P. 167, Part V. Tables in arithmetic. F - G - S - 



P. 178, Part VI. An alphabetical list of foreign 
coins, with their English value. 

P. 185. Finis. 

The size of the printed part of a page is six I 
inches by three. As the title is lost, and there is 
no colophon, I should be glad to know the place 
and date of publication, as well as the author's 
name. j m ^ p 

Winterton, Brigg. 

" LIBER VERITATIS." Can any of your corre- 
spondents give me some idea of the money value 
of a folio, in three volumes, bearing the above 



LORD CHANCELLOR ELLESMERE. 

" Certain Observations concerning the Office of the 
Lord Chancellor." Composed by the Right Honourable 
and Most Learned Thomas Lord Ellesmere, late Lord; 
Chancellor of England. London, 1651. 8vo. pp. 120. 

Was this little book really written by Lord Chan- 
cellor Ellesmere or not ? I have been under the 
impression that the Speech touching the Post Nati 
was the only work that he ever published, and I 
believe it is commonly so stated in the memoirs of 
his life. In the preface to the little book referred 
to above it is stated : " The copy of this treatise 
was delivered unto me by John Harding, late of 



name ? It is a collection of two hundred prints Grayes Inne, Esquire, deceased, and one of the 
01 pictures, by Claude de Lorraine, executed by Readers of that Honourable Society, and by him 
Kichard Mrlom, and published in 1777 by John affirmed to be composed by the Eight Honourable- 



5" S. V. JAN. 22, '76.] 



NOTES AND QUERIES. 



69 



and most learned Thomas Lord Ellesmere, Lore 
Chancellor of England." I shall be glad of anj 
information on the subject of the real authorship 
of the book in question. J. P. EARWAKER. 
Alderley Edge, Cheshire. 

THE USE OF THE PASTORAL STAFF. Has a 
" returned colonial " bishop, or a bishop who has 
resigned his see, the right to use a pastoral staff 
My impression is that he has not, the pastora 
staff being the symbol of jurisdiction, which juris- 
diction he has resigned. Does a coadjutor bishop 
in the Roman Catholic Church use one 1 

J. WOODWARD. 

" OMNIS SALTUS IN CHOREA EST SALTUS IN PRO- 
FTJNDUM CLOACAE." Whence is the above ? Stubbes, 
in his Anatomic, of Abuses, cites it as the saying 
of a "certain godlie doctor." Prynne, in his 
Histrio Mastix, quotes from Perrin's History of 
the Waldenses a very similar expression, which he 
attributes to Augustine, but a very careful search 
(through the indexes) has not enabled me to 
corroborate Prynne, or rather Perrin. 

H. H. S. C. 

GEORGE BUTLER OF BALLYRAGGETT, KILKENNY. 
Can any of your readers give me any informa- 
tion relative to him ? as to when he died, who he 
was married to, and his descent from the Mount- 
garretts, particularly the latter, which I am very 
desirous of knowing. P. J. COGAN. 

A PORTRAIT. A friend of mine has a portrait 
painted in oils on wood. On the right-hand side 
of the picture are these words : " Castellan (or 
Chambellan?) de Philip 2 et due Albert d'Au- 
triche et femme, Prince et Princesse, Ambassadeur 
sur Henry 4, Gouverneur de Maline, mort le 7 
Fevrier, 1612." On the left-hand side, "Boxtel et 
le . . . " with some other words I cannot make 
out; preceding the word "Boxtel" there have 
been some words which have evidently been cut 
off. Whose is this portrait 1 

ARTHUR SCHOMBERG. 

COCKERSAND ABBEY IN LANCASHIRE. The 
chartulary, or at least the register, of this monas- 
tery is believed to be still in existence, and in 
private hands. Information on this point is de- 
sired. H. FISHWICK, F.S.A. 

Carr Hill, Kochdale. 

ALTHOTAS. Can any one inform me who this 
alchemist was, and what was his previous career 
before he met with Cagliostro? There is a slight 
mention of him in Mr. Mackay's History of Popu- 
lar Delusions, in connexion with Cagliostro. 

O. B. M. 



THE O'NEILLS OP FRANCE AND SPAIN. 
(5 th S. iii. 407 ; iv. 130.) 

According to PETRUS (5 th S. iv. 130), the 
O'Neills of France " would be the lineal legitimate 
posterity of Hugh the Great, the last O'Neill, 
through Terence, his son, and could alone pretend 
to the title of Prince, Count (or Earl) of Tyrone " ; 
whilst those of Spain " would represent the branch 
of Clandeboy ('Clan' Aodh Buidhe'), and the 
proofs of both assertions have been thoroughly 
authenticated." 

As to what concerns the O'Neills of Portugal E 
shall carefully abstain from any discussion. "No 
document have I seen establishing whether or not 
they belonged to the younger and collateral branch 
of the royal and sovereign house of O'Neill. 

My intention is only to occupy myself with that 
of Spain. 

I am as well acquainted as PETRUS could pretend 
to be himself with the documents on which suck 
pretensions are based. They consist of 

1. A copy of the Real Despacko de, Hidalguia y 
Blasones, relating the letters of nobility incorporat- 
ing into the ranks of the Spanish noblesse or 
hidalguia these members of the O'Neill family, 
and duly certified by Don Antonio Rugula y 
Busueta, then king-at-arms of her Majesty Dona 
Isabella II. 

2. A genealogical document drawn out in 1730 
by Hugh MacMahon, Archbishop of Armagk 
(Catholic), in favour of Phelim or Felix O'Neill, 
born in Ulster, 1720, who entered into the Spanish, 
service in 1730, where he died Captain-Ge'ne'ral of 
Arragon, a post of elevated military rank ; and 

3. A panegyric in Spanish of the above-men- 
tioned Don Felix, printed at Madrid, 1796. 

The first of these documents regards exclusively 
John (Shane) O'Neill, third son of Hugh O'NeilJ, 
Earl of Tyrone, who was held in considerable 
favour at the Court of Spain. This affirmation 
responds to the question put forward by the author 
of the article in these terms, "Who was this John? " 
The epoch at which the letters of " Hidalguia y 
Blasones " had been confirmed clearly points out 
that there could not be question of any other per- 
sonage. I take the liberty also of reminding 
PETRUS that all the sons of Hugh the Great did 
not die in Rome. Hugh, the eldest, surnamed 
'the Baron," did so in 1609, and was buried, by 
order of his Holiness Pope Paul V., in the church 
of S. Pietro in Montorio, on the Mount Janiculum, 
is is generally known. 

As to the second document, which traces the 
pedigree of Don Felix, it is perhaps well to remem- 
>er that the illustrious Hugh MacMahon might 
lave been an eminent theologian, and, as his imrnor- 
:al printed work, Jus primatiale Ardmachanum, 
>roves him to be, a canonist of remarkable superi- 



70 



NOTES* AND QUERIES. 



[5 th S. V. JAN. 22, 76. 



ority ; but it by no means follows that this vener- 
able prelate was a skilful herald, or, even what 
is more essential, a correct genealogist. The 
Archbishop of Armagh effectively makes out the 
said Don Felix as descending from Terence (Tur- 
logh), brother, on both father's and mother's side, 
of John, the son of Hugh, whom he qualifies as 
" most serene Prince of Ulster, Earl of Tyrone, 
Viscount Mountjoy, Baron of Fews, Duncannon, 
and Strabane, Sovereign Lord of the two Princi- 
palities of Upper and Lower Clandeboy." 

In the first place, I should be anxious to know 
where his Grace Archbishop MacMahon could 
have discovered that John was " Viscount Mount- 
joy, Baron of Fews, and Sovereign Lord of Upper 
and Lower Clandeboy." There exists, in this some- 
what whimsical and contradictory profusion of 
titles upon the same head, an historical and genea- 
logical chaos manifest to the most inexperienced 
student of Irish history, or any one who could have 
paid the least attention to our national annals, or who 
could have been in the slightest degree acquainted 
with the several branches forming part of the 
illustrious house of O'Neill. And, finally, I shall 
ask, where did his Grace find out that Terence 
was brother, by both paternal and maternal 
descent, of John ? 

History teaches, and the Annals of the Four 
Masters confirms it, that Hugh the Great had only 
four legitimate sons, to wit, Hugh the Baron, 
everywhere designated as " primogenitus," or the 
eldest, Henry, John, and Brian. The same annals* 
inform us that, in the year 1600, Turlogh (Brasilagh} 
and Conn, sons of Hugh, commanded troops in his 
army. Now, at the same time, Brian, the youngest 
of the lawful male issue of the Prince of Tyrone, 
was only two years old, and Hugh, his eldest 
brother, fifteen years of age. Wherefore it stands 
to reason that Turlogh, surnamed Brasilagh, and 
Conn, of sufficient age to have commands in the 
army, must necessarily have been illegitimate. 

If it is to Turlogh Brasilagh that the archbishop 
attaches the O'Neills of Spain, how can he certify 
that he was brother from both father's and 
mother's side, when it was shown that John was 
legitimate and Turlogh illegitimate ? How attri- 
bute to Turlogh, a natural son, titles belonging 
solely to the lawful issue of Hugh ? 

There exists, therefore, in the certificate of his 
Grace, an evident error. This could easily have 
been avoided did he but attach Don Felix to his 
true origin ; that is to say, in giving him for 
ancestor Art (Arthur), second son of Turlogh, son 
of Henry. This Henry, of the branch of Fews, 
was the second husband of the mother of Hugh 
(Judith Maguire, of the Princes of Fermanagh), 
and widow of Ferdorcha, his father. Hence it 



* The Four Masters, translated by Owen Connellan 
p. 629. 



follows that Turlogh (Terence) was only the 
uterine brother of Hugh the Great, and descends 
not from him, but from his relative, Henry O'Neill 
of Fews. 

This opinion is corroborated by the Repertorium 
Rotulorum Cancellarice Ardmachance, p. 1640, and 
by the Annals of the Four Masters, p. 156, 
col. 2, Owen Connellan. 

A few words now upon the O'Neills of France, 
quoted in the title, but without being otherwise 
mentioned in the body of the article itself. 

This branch has very serious grounds to claim 
its descent from Hugh, Earl of Tyrone. Their 
title-deeds, which I have seen, and of which I can 
fully attest the importance, have been carefully exa- 
mined, controlled, and certified in 1784 by the 
body of officers (of whom one was a member of my 
own family) of the regiments of Walsh and of 
Dillon, in the French service. Their armorial 
bearings are exactly identical with those borne by 
Hugh O'Neill. Not so with the Spanish and 
Clandeboy branches. 

In conclusion to this note, allow me to add one 

nple observation on the subject of Celtic-Irish 
families : What does it really signify whether they 
descend from Patrick, Hugh, or John ? 

The essential point for each and every one of 
them is to establish that all the members are true 
scions of the true, recognized, and authentic stock, 
and not to be confounded amongst the multitude, 
whether by caprice, accident, choice, or otherwise, 
bearing the common name of the clan. 

This, with respect to the different branches of 
France, Spain, and Portugal, as also with the 
Chichesters, now O'Neill in the female line, cannot 
be contested. NAPOLEON BONAPARTE- WYSE. 

Dublin. 

" BRAND-NEW " AND " SPICK AND SPAN NEW ' 
(5 th S. iv. 24, 72, 255.) W. M. is indubitably 
wrong, and Archbishop Trench right. The com- 
monest care in investigating the matter would 
have shown W. M. that it is not because, or 
wholly because, of the archbishop's book that 
writers of the present day use brand instead 
of bran. If brand-new were a corruption of 
the Scotch bra' new, the very last place where we 
should expect to find brand-new would be in Jamie- 
son's Scottish Dictionary* Yet there W. M. will 
find it, with two quotations to support it, one of 
them from Burns, who spells it brent-new, a form 
which cannot possibly be a corruption of bra', and 
which most clearly proclaims the connexion of 
brand-new with to burn. 

Jamieson, who gives essentially the same ex- 
planation of the term that Dr. Trench does, also 
says, " This is certainly the same with Teut. brand 



* My edition is the second, and is dated 1840, or four- 
teen years before Dr. Trench delivered the lectures ou 
which his book quoted by W. M. is based. 



5 th S. V. JAN. 22, 76.] 



NOTES AND QUERIES. 



71 



neiv"^ and Richardson^ quotes the Dutch brand- 
nieuw; but, though the word brand, in the sense 
of " burning," is found both in German and Dutch 
I cannot find either of the forms quoted. The 
Germans say funkelneu or funkenneu (=sparkling 
or spark-new, i. e. so new as to glitter or give out 
sparks) ; or nagelneu (=nail-new, see note *fT) ; or 
they combine both and say funkelnagelncu. These 
are the expressions in commonest use, but there 
are a great many others. Thus we have blitzfun- 
kelnagelneu and hagelnagelneu; spanneu (=span- 
new, i. e. shaving-, chip-, or splinter-new) ; and 
span is also combined with forms we have previously 
had, as in spanfunkelneu,\\ spannagelneu. Then, 
again, we have nadelneu (needle-new) ;TT feuernei 
(fire-new, which occurs four times in Shak- 
speare, and is quoted by Dr. Trench) ; schmiedeneu 
(=forge-new, i. e. new from the forge) ; gluhneu 
(glowing-new) ; spaltneu (probably=splmter-new), 
and, joined with funkel, funkelspalienneu ; krach- 
neu (crack- or creak-new, used of new boots and 
shoes, and other things, such as furniture, which 
give vent to their newness by cracking or creak- 
ing) ; spurneu (trace- or track-new, i. e. new as traces 
or tracks nearly always are), and, with nagel added, 
spurnagelneu ; and finally in Low German glootnij 
(=High German glutneu, which does not seem, 
however, to be used but see above gluhneu and in 
English glow-new, or much the same as fire-new) ; 
speldernij or spoldernij (probably =splinter-new) ** 
and s/ntZft and spoolneu (=spool-new, i.e., I sup- 
pose, fresh from the spool or bobbin). This very 
long list may be tedious, but is valuable,, as I do 
not know that so many forms have ever been 
brought together before. I have collected them 
from different German dictionaries, such as San- 
ders's, where there are the most (s.v. neu), Kalt- 



f {The form new is English, and English only ; it is 
neu in German and nieuw in Dutch. 

J Richardson, whose dictionary dates from 1844, also 
explains the term, " new from the fire or forge " ; whilst 
Webster, whose definition is " quite new ; bright as a 
brand of fire," quotes the form brand-new from the 
Tatler, a work of the last century. Was the archbishop 
alive then that he should be so absurdly charged with 
having " created " it ] 

Blitz and //a</eZ=lightning and hail, but they are 
often used as emphatic constituents in oaths (cf. our 
"blood and thunder "), and are probably so used here ; 
for, though lightning might have something to do with 
the gleaming or glittering of new or bright metal, what 
can hail have to do with nail, except indeed to rhyme 
with it? 

|| Sanders also gives spanfinlcelneu, but does not 
explain it. 

If Nails are so common and so cheap that they are 
nearly always used new, though they may remain in use 
for years ; whilst needles remain bright and look new as 
long as they are in use, for use keeps them bright. 

** Spelder is given by Halliwell (who quotes Palsgrave) 
as meaning " splinter or chip " in old English. 

ft Sptd, ho\vever=Spule, is the High Germ, equi- 
valent of the Low Germ. Spool. 



Schmidt's, Schmitthenner's, and Low German dic- 
tionaries. 

The Dutch say nagelnieuw (=nail-new) ; spelder- 
nieuw (probably =splinter-new, see note **, though 
speld or spelde=-. a pin) ; splinternieuw (=splinter- 
new) ; or they add spik (probably = spike or 
nail) to these last two, and say spikspelder- 
nieuw and spiksplintei -nieuw. , Wedgwood also 
gives spellenieuiv (=splinter-new), but I do not 
find it, or any word like it, in my Dutch diction- 
aries. Compare, however, the Swedish spillerny, 
infra. 

The Danes say funkelnde ny (sparkling new) 
or splinterny (=splinter-new). And lastly the 
Swedes say splitterny (splinter-new) and spil- 
lerny (probably with the same meaning, see o,ur 
word spill in Wedgwood), written, I know not 
why, spillerstny in Wedgwood ; whilst in modern 
Icelanidic I find (Cleasby) spannyr (=span-new), 
and should no doubt find other forms if there were 
an English-Icelandic part to Cleasby's dictionary. 
All these forms are extremely interesting, for, 
while funkelneu, funkelnde ny, feuerneu, schmiede- 
neu, gluhneu, and gloolnij seem to me to prove 
the correctness of the archbishop's explanation 
of brand-new beyond all doubt, the remaining 
forms (with the exception of krachneu, spurneu, 
and perhaps spulneu) illustrate, in a very re- 
markable manner, our equivalent spick and span 
new, and are themselves explained by the ex- 
planation given of this last in Webster, who 
defines it "quite new ; that is, as new as a spike 
or nailJJ just made, and a chip just split." It 
will be noticed that the first part of spick and span 
new, that is spick, is found in Dutch, whilst the 
last part, span, occurs in German and Icelandic. 
It was reserved for us to combine the two. 

F. CHANCE. 
Sydenham Hill. 

Possessing the first edition of Alex. Eoss's For- 
tunate Shepherdess, Aberdeen, 1768, I am enabled 
to say that the poet there uses the word brand- 
lew, as given correctly by Dr. Jamieson from the 
third edit., 1789 ; but, although this particular 
word is the same in both, the broad Buchan dia- 
lect is certainly throughout the latter brought into 



H Halliwell gives spick=sp'ike, whilst spik in Swedish 
=nail, so that probably in the Dutch words given above 
spik has one or other of these meanings. Compare also 
spiger in Danish=a large nail, and spikerin Low German 
=a small nail. In Norwegian, however, spik means " a 
chip, splinter, or match," as pointed out by Wedgwood, 
s.v. spick; and this may therefore possibly be the meaning 
of spick in spick and span new. But whether we give spick 
the meaning of chip, splinter, &c., or of spike or nail, is 
not of much importance, as we find chips, splinters, and 
nails all three combined with new in one or other of the 

anguages quoted in the text : whilst that chipt and 
nails may be combined in the same expression is 
3] early shown by the term spannagelneu. See note *J[. 
Chips and shavings are commonly new, as they 

re usually burned up as fast as made. 



NOTES-AND QUERIES. 



[5 th S. V.JAN. 22, 76. 



nearer conformity with the English. The first 
time I notice the alteration to brann-new is in an 
edition, Aberdeen, 1796 ; followed by that of Dun- 
dee, 1812, edited by the author's grandson, the Eev. 
Alex. Thomson ; and now that by Dr. Longmuir, 
a few years ago. J. 0. 



(5 th S. iv. 443, 494 ; v. 17.) If in addition 
to Jelf s Grammar and Liddell and Scott's Lexicon, 
which I still hold to be sufficient, your correspon- 
dent will look into Suidas, Scapula, Hedrick, and 
especially Eustathius upon Homer, I fancy he will 
find that he has made no discovery. I am appealed 
to to explain why the passage from Thucydides 
" was so wrongly translated by the famous Cam- 
bridge scholar." I know not who this "famous 
Cambridge scholar " may be, but I certainly prefer 
his rendering to that of DUNELMENSIS. It is, to my 
mind, closer to the original, and less paraphrastic. 
By reason of the hatred is the literal sense of /car' 
X#os, and surely " from a feeling akin to hate" is 
a more literal translation than "avoiving the enmity 
they felt against the Lacedaemonians," where, as I 
respectfully submit, the word in italics is an inter- 
polation quite uncalled for. Besides, this render- 
ing leaves the sense obscure, and naturally suggests 
the question Who avowed their enmity, the 
Ithomites or the Athenians ? Whereas the Greek 
seems unmistakable Kal avrovs 'ABrjvaioi 
oett/j,ei'oi KU.T ^0os rjSirj TO AaKeScu/AOVttov, Is 
Ncu>-aKToi/ KaripKivav, which I think should be 
rendered, " And by reason of their ancient grudge 
against the Lacedaemonians, the Athenians took 
them under their protection, and placed them in 
the city of Naupactus." But I must ask your 
correspondent to look again at Liddell and Scott, 
and candidly to say whether he does not think 
that his definition, or doctrine, is really covered by 
what these lexicographers say of rjSrj in its force of 
the ^immediate past." They give as examples 
vv rjSy reAefo'i, 'tis already "night II 7, 282, 
293; rj8rj yap rpirov Icrriv eros Od. 2, 89: 
an .d his own quotation from the PhilodetesfTo? 
rod ryov; oe/caroi'. A reperusal of Jelf's article 
confirms me in my opinion that he practically says 
all that DUNELMENSIS contends for, with much 'in 
addition that he does not touch upon. 

EDMUND TEW, M.A. 



!. 5th S - iv - 268 > 31 5, 389, 

.) As the passages from Deuteronomy cited 
lor comparison are at variance with the Vulgate 
Mb., and as the initial and final lines of the two 
prologues (so kindly copied by your correspondent 
K. K.) do not, contrary to all expectation, assist 
m discovering the date of the version adopted 
by the transcriber, the humble biographer of 

aU UmS findS MmSelf at S6a Snd out of 



The " Venerabilis Abbas Hildivinus" named 



n 



the second prologue is Hilduin, Abbot of St. 
Denys, St. Germain des Pres, and St. Medard, at 
Soissons, the arch-chaplain of the king's palace, and 
ex officio the supreme head of the clergy in the- 
kingdom of France (A.D. 814). Having aided and 
abetted the rebellion of Lothaire and Pepin, the- 
sons of Louis le Debonnaire, Hilduin was deprived 
in 830 of these preferments in the Church, and 
banished to Courbey, in Saxony. After a brief 
interval, he was restored to favour and all his 
ecclesiastical titles and dignities, through the in- 
fluential intercession of his former pupil, that dis- 
tinguished prelate and ornament of the Church, 
Hincmar, the Archbishop of Rheims. 

In his famous work, entitled Areopagitica, 
Hilduin wrote, at the command of the king, the 
history of St. Dionysius, the founder of the 
monastery, and reputed first Archbishop of Paris, 
whom he identified with Dionysius the Areopagite 
mentioned in Acts xvii. 34. This work, a farrago 
of fables and idle tales, obtained credit even to the 
seventeenth century, when its follies were exposed 
by the writings of Sismond, the confessor of 
Louis XIII. ; of Launoi, the learned critic ; and 
by other intelligent theologians of the period. 
Hilduin was born towards the close of the eighth 
century, and died A.D. 842. 

The question of the birthplace and nationality 
of Eabanus Maurus may be set at rest by quoting 
his own words : 

" Audi Kabanum ipsum," writes Mabillon, "in Alcuini 
persona libros de Cruce Sacro offerentem papao, et sic de 
se loquentem. 
" Ipse quidem Francus* genere est, atque incola silvse 

Bochonite, hie missus discere verba Dei. 
Fuldae quippe, quod oppidum in Bochonia situm cst, 
raonachus erat, non tamen eo loci natus, sed in urbe 
Moguntid, ut ipse canit in Epitaphio suo. Habanus 
sepulturam suam designaverat Moguntice in monasteries 
Sancti Albini. t 

" Urle f/uidem hdc genitus sum, ac sacro fonte renatus : 

In Fulda post hsec dogma sacrum didici '' 
(Migne, Pairologice Czirstis Completus, torn. 107, p. 10, 
auctore Mabillonio). 

It may be as well to mention that Alcuin's 
revision gradually became corrupted, and in 1089 
corrections were made by Lanfranc of Canter- 
bury ; by Cardinal Nicolaus in 1150 ; and by the 
Cistercian Abbot Stephanus about the same date. 
Moreover, in the thirteenth century (in France 
especially), " Correctoria " were drawn up, intro- 
ducing into the text a variety of readings and 
several ^ mistakes, of which Roger Bacon justly 
complains, and quotes a glaring error in Mark viii. 
38, where " confessus " had been substituted for 
" confusus." WILLIAM PLATT. 

115, Piccadilly. 

POETS THE MASTERS OF LANGUAGE (4 th S xi 
110 ; 5* S. iv. 431, 491 ; v. 14, 37, 52.) Afl I 



* Francus Orientalis. 



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NOTES AND QUERIES. 



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consider this question more carefully, I see its 
extreme subtilty, and must confess that, when I 
first replied to MAKROCHEIR, I did not understand 
its depth fully. 

Our discussion is only an additional instance of 
the fabulous shield, although I think that I view 
the golden side. This explains my involuntary 
petitio principii. 

My thesis is, however, still the same that man 
is only the formal cause of variations in language : 
therefore he cannot, theoretically speaking, be 
regarded as the true cause of a change, any more 
than the sun can be said to cause the deviation of 
a tree towards himself. For, on a careful con- 
sideration, it is obvious that the tree's principle of 
vitality is the efficient cause of the divergence, the 
sun being only the formal cause of it. 

I plead, therefore, for the objective, indepen- 
dent existence of language, on which man leaves 
his impress without altering the materials with 
which he is supplied. And it is just because no 
individual can effect a change, that language may 
be said to have a spontaneous growth, governed 
by fixed laws just as much as any other of nature's 
.processes. How else would MAKROCHEIR explain 
the fact that Grimm's law is so generally true 1 

Still, regarding the question subjectively, masses 
of men can sway language, but only so far as the 
formal cause of any change may be spoken of as 



the origin of it. And yet they can only do this 
when they act in accordance with the laws of lan- 
guage. For let MAKROCHEIR attempt to reintro- 
duce an obsolete inflection, let him gather round 
him others for the same purpose, and still failure 
must ensue. On the other hand, as MAKROCHEIR 
remarks, great men have changed the meaning of 
words, or even obtained the rejection of an inflec- 
tion, but only when they are followed by many 
others, and after a long lapse of time. 

To recapitulate, in order to secure any change 
whatsoever in language, it must 1. Be sanctioned 
by a large number of competent authorities ; 2. 
Be in accordance with the laws of language. 

If we bring Lord Byron's attempt before this 
tribunal, I think that it fails in the first requirement 
entirely, although it does not violate the second. 

DR. GATTY alludes to the misuse of will and 
shall, and I certainly think that this is a case in 
hand. From Shakspeare downwards these words 
have received continual maltreatment, and yet I ' 
venture to say that the beautiful distinction in 
meaning between the two is clearer than ever. 

Lord Byron was not much given to the use of 
the file, and I should think that he made a slip 
when he used lay intransitively. W. H. 

EEGISTRUM SACRUM BATAVIANUM, A.D. 

1874-75 (5 th S. i. 182) : 



? 


Names of Bishops. 


Name of 
See. 


Date of 
Election. 


Date 
of Con- 
secration. 


Place of 
Consecration. 


Consecrator. 


Assisting Prelates. 


23 


Johannes Heijkamp. 


Utrecht 


1874, 
Dec. 15 


1875, 
April 28 


Utrecht, in 
church of S. 


K. J. Rinkel, Bp. 
of Haarlem, 22. 














Geertruida. 






24 


Kornelis Diependaal. 




Deventer 


1875, 
July 


1875, 
Nov. 17 


Rotterdam, 
in church of 
S. Laurent. 


J. Heijkamp, Abp. 
of Utrecht, 23. 


K. J. Rinkel, Bp. of 
Haarlem, 22; J. H. 
Reinkens, Bp. in Ger- 
















many (for the "Old 




* 












Catholics "). 












1 





In completion of my former list of the Dutch 
Jansenist Bishops, I now send the above two suc- 
ceeding consecrations, and may note that Her- 
manns Heijkamp, late Bishop of Deventer, died 
October 28, 1874, aged 70, at Eotterdam, where 
he had his episcopal seat ; also that his successor 
in that see, Bishop Diependaal, had been elected 
Abp. of Utrecht by the Metropolitan Chapter 
on Feb. 5, 1873, but then declined the episcopate, 
continuing as pastor of his parish at the Helder. 
The latter prelate now also succeeds Arch- 
bishop Heijkamp as pastor of Schiedam, as his 
diocese does not contain any members of the Jan- 
senist communion, thus continuing the anomal- 
ous arrangement of performing the duties of a 
parish priest in another diocese, as has been the 
custom ever since the revival of the old see of 
Deventer, in the year 1757, owing to political 
causes, which then rendered it needful. 



The bishopric of Deventer was originally founded 
May 12, 1559, its first occupant having been Fr. 
Johannes Mabeuse, 0. S. Fr., who was nominated 
in 1561, resigned in 1570, and died May 10, 
1577, after which the succession was as follows : 
Fr. Gillis de Monte, 0. S. Fr., consecrated Oct. 29, 
1570, resigned May 26, 1577, when Bernardus 
Heyrinck sat there from 1577 till 1579, and on his 
resignation Mgr. de Monte was again elected, 
Aug. 6, 1587 after a vacancy of ten years, owing 
to the wars between the Dutch and Spaniards but 
he was finally removed from the see Sept. 2, 1588. 
The next two bishops, Albertus van Thill (elected 
Sept. 2, 1588) and Gijsbertus Coeverinx (elected 
in November, 1589), were not consecrated, nor in 
possession ; and the episcopal see of Deventer 
ceased to exist in 1590, on the establishment of 
Calvinism in Holland (cf. Batavia Sacra, edit. H. 
F. Heussen, Leyden, 1719, ii. 184, and Historic 



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[5 th S. V. JAN. 22, 76. 



Episcopatus Daventriensis, Cologne, 1670). Since 
the restoration of the bishopric by the Jansenist 
Church there have been six occupants of the titular 
dignity, including the last consecrated : and the 
pastoral staff presented to the new bishop, during 
the ceremony of his consecration, on Nov. 17, 
possessed a special interest as having belonged to 
Mgr. de Monte, who was Bishop of Deventer 
three centuries ago (as noted above), and who may 
be considered the last regularly consecrated 
possessor of the dignity. The chief point of in- 
terest in the consecration of Bp. Diependaal is 
that it is the first instance of three bishops having 
taken part in the consecration of a prelate of the 
Jansenist succession since the schism of 1723, 
when the Church of Holland separated from the 
Roman obedience (cf. Guardian, Nov. 24, 1875). 

A. S. A. 
Richmond. 

ST. JOSEPH (5 th S. iv. 450.) -The statement to 
which ECCLESIASTICUS refers is in Epiphanius, 
Hfcr. 78, cap. vii., and is to the effect that Jacob, 
father of St. Joseph, was called Panthera, and 
that St. Joseph himself, and his brother Cleopas, 
bore the same title. But St. John Damascene 
(De Fide Orthodora, iv. 15) gives the name Pan- 
thera to a quite different man. He makes Panthera 
to be a brother of Melchi (St. Luke iii. 24), and 
grandfather to Joachim, the B. V. M.'s father. 
ECCLESIASTICUS will find both these statements 
quoted by Dr. Mill (On Pantheistic Principles 
ii. 188, 189). C. F. S. WARREN, M.A. ' 

Bexhill. 

Morgan Kavanagh, in his Origin of Language 
and Myths, states " that the Jews, in their Talmud, 
.say that the name of Jesus was Bar-Panther." He 
also states that the learned antiquary, Dr. Stukeley, 

informs us that the family name of Christ's foster- 
father was Panther." Morgan Kavanajrh argues 
from this the truth of his etymology, viz., that 

Bar-Panther is equal to Car-Panther, hence car- 
penter. See Origin of Language and Myths, 
vol. 11. pp. 186, 187, 180. W M . HEANE. 

WATCH SEALS (5 S. iv. 450.)-! am afraid 
that devices on watch seals are but broken reeds 
on winch to lean as authorities for heraldic pre- 
tensions, and that a dove volant, with an olive 
branch in its mouth," or any other bird, especially 
if IK* heraldically treated, can in itself have no 
value in this way, though doubtless it may suggest 
interesting inquiry. T T F 

Hatfield Hall, Durham. 

The devices upon MR. BKALE'S seals are amongst 
the most common of the time when wax had not 
been superseded by the use of adhesive envelopes. 
Probability points, therefore, to their being neither 
heraldic nor masonic, but merely seals which have 
been purchased ready engraved. I am informed 



that it was very general to buy seals with figures 
already upon them, and, as any collector can tell, 
cornucopias, doves volant, forget-me-nots, and such 
like abound. There is, however, one way of deter- 
mining whether the devices are or are not heraldic, 
which is by the absence or presence of the wreath 
which accompanies a crest. Of course there are 
plenty of instances where the engraver has omitted 
the wreath, but the above is a pretty safe rule to 
go by. JAMES YOUNG, Jun. 

Ovvthorne. 

ARCHDEACONS' SEALS (5 th S. iv. 327, 352, 378, 
391; v. 16.) In answer to LORD ALWYNE COMPTON, 
I can state that Bishop Bateman of Norwich impaled 
his own arms with those of his see at a very much 
earlier date than that at which he supposes the 
custom began. This bishop founded Trinity Hall, 
Cambridge, and I believe that documents of the 
fifteenth century exist there with the impaled 
arms. D. 

The Palace, Buitenzorg, Java. 

SHAKSPEARE'S SEAL EIXG (5 th S. iv. 224, 3.93.) 
I am obliged to admit that I have been entirely 
misled with regard to what is called Shakspeare's 
seal ring by the woodcut in Fnirholt's Eambles of 
an Arch&ologist, p. 135. Supposing it to repre- 
sent the ring itself, as it appears to do, and not an 
impression from it, I was at a loss to understand 
how a ring, on which letters were cut as if they 
were to be read on the ring and not on the im- 
pression, could be a true signet-ring. Now that I 
find Fairholt's cut represents the impression only, 
my initial difficulty is removed. It is, therefore, 
not impossible that W. S. may mean William. 
Shakspeare. To make it probable requires more 
evidence than we possess at present. 

W. ALOIS WRIGHT. 

Trinity College, Cambridge. g 

_ " WILIE BEGUILE " (5 th S. iv. 144.) In addi- 
tion to the proof I formerly gave of this being a 
proverbial phrase, used by Dr. John Harvey and 
Nash, and therefore not referring to the later play 
of Wily Beguiled (from which Shakspeare was 
once supposed to have pilfered), I now add this 
quotation from E. Bernard's Terence in English, 
p. Ill, ed. 1607, of which the first edition was in 
1598 : 

" Frustratur ipse. sibi, he deceiues himselfe, he playeth 
wiiie oegutte himselfe." 

The phrase arose doubtless as "Master Wily 
(the wily man) beguile himself." 

F. J. FURNIVALL. 

"MlND YOUR PS AND Qs " (1 st S. iii. IV. Vi. 

',ssim). In addition to the several suggestions of 
the origin of the above phrase, I have just had 
another one sent me, by a lady who has been 
resident for many years in France, as follows : 



5 th S. V. JAN. 22/76.] 



NOTES AND QUERIES. 



" French was for so long the legal language, entirely 
or in part, that the caution might have been given in stat- 
ing or defending a cause, ' Mind you are ready with the 
parceque when the potirquoi is asked ' Be ready with 
your reasons, the 'because ' for the 'why?' I think the 
term is now never used but as regards conversation. 
' We must not talk at random, we must remember our 
Ps and Qs.' 'Take care what you say, mind your Ps 
and Qs.' " 

D. C. E. 

STRAWBERRY LEAVES ON DUCAL CORONETS 
(5 th S. ii. 129.) Whenever there is any satis- 
factory authority for believing that the trefoil 
floral ornaments of ducal coronets are strawberry 
leaves, it may be worth while to ask why they 
were selected for that purpose. At present I 
know of none. They have been popularly con- 
sidered as strawberry leaves ever since the six- 
teenth century, but their first appearance is 
probably on the crown of Henry IV., on his effigy 
in Canterbury Cathedral. The really interesting 
question is why and on whose authority they were 
ever called strawberry leaves. Can a botanist 
point out no other leaf which might equally 
resemble the floral ornament so designated by the 
heralds, circa 1500 certainly not earlier, and it 
may be some fifty years later 1 FRED. RULE. 

DR. HOMER'S "BIBLIOTHECA UNIVERSALIS 
AMERICANA" (5 th S. iv. 288.) This library pos- 
sesses a neat and exact transcript, in eight quarto 
volumes, of this unpublished work. Dr. Homer's 
original MS. is, or ought to be, in the library of 
the late Sir Thomas Phillips. Another unpub- 
lished work of the same character is 

*' Bibliotheca Americana : Catalogo de los autores que 
han escrito de la America en diferentes idiomas y no- 
ticia de su vida y patria, afios en que yivieron y obias 
que escribieron ; compuesta por el Mariscal de Campo 
T>. Antonio de Alcedo, Gobernador de la Plaza de la 
Coruila, ano de 1807." 

This forms a closely written folio of 1300 pages. 
Alcedo is well known as the author of a Diccion- 
ario Geografico-Historico de las Indias Occidentales 
o America (English by G. A. Thompson, Lond., 

1812-15). WlLLARD FlSKE. 

Library of the Cornell University, Ithaca, U.S. 

PHILADELPHIA AUTHORS (5 th S. iv. 467.) Mr. 
James Eees, if I mistake not, is now alive. He 
has recently written a Life of Edwin Forrest, pub- 
lished by Petersen & Co., and a volume on Shak- 
speare and the Bible, published by Claxton, Rem- 
sen & Haffelfinger. Through either of these 
houses I suppose Mr. Rees could be communicated 
with. He would probably be glad to give MR. 
INGLIS any information in his possession. 

J. BRANDER MATTHEWS. 

Lotos Club, N.Y. 

CHRISTMAS MUMMERS (5 th S. iv. 506.) If 
W. E. will refer to 5 th S. iii. 378, he will find that 



Tales and Traditions of Tenby (which he quotes at 
second hand from the Boole of Days) is not an 
old work," and that an account of the Christmas 
t Tenby has already been given by me in 
. & Q." May I again query whether this 
ancient sport, alive in 1857, still survive 1 

MIDDLE TEMPLAR. 

WHATTON FAMILY (5 th S. iv. 69, 457.) la 
Potter's Hist, of Cliarnwood Forest, 1842, p. 93,. 
is some information regarding Geoffry Whatton. 

A. R. B. 

" MILTONIS EPISTOLA AD POLLIONEM " (5 th S. 
iv. 511.) Dr. William King, of Ch. Ch. Oxford, 
whose works were published in three vols., 1774, 
was born in London, 1663, and died in 1712. Dr. 
William King, Principal of St. Mary Hall, Oxford, 
author of Miltonis Epistola ad Pollionem, was 
born at Stepney, 1685, and died in 1763. Lowndes- 
confuses the two authors, so also does a correspon- 
dent of " N. & Q.," 5 th S. iii. 275. I have no copy 
of Watt's Bibliotheca by me, but I think the works 
of the two authors are there properly separated. 
W. H. ALLNUTT. 

Oxford. 

" THE PRESENT STATE OF LONDON " (5 th S. v. 
9.) This is probably an edition of a book by 
Robert Burton, who, under that name, and as 
Richard Burton and Nathaniel Crouch, issued so 
many amusing books, of the Things not Generally- 
Known stamp. The first edition is entered in 
the Bodleian Catalogue as Historical Remarques 
and Observations of the Ancient and Present State 
of London and Westminster, 8vo., Lond., 1681. 
Another edition now before me, " Printed for A. 
Betterworth and Charles Hitch, 1730," is called 
A New View, and Observations on the Ancient 
and Modern State of London and Westminster, 
&c. It contains the woodcuts described by MR. 
PATTERSON. C. W. SUTTON. 

Moss Grove Terrace, Manchester. 
[See 5 th S. iv. 106.] 

IRISH PRONUNCIATION OF ENGLISH WORDS (5 th 
S. v. 25.) I have long held the same opinion as 
MR. COGAN puts forward on this point. " The 
uneducated Irish," especially those who conversed 
in their native language, remained uninfluenced 
by the capricious changes of fashion, which are 
constantly altering the English tongue. This has 
led me to agree with Dr. Johnson's opinion, quoted 
by Walker, as to the more frequent quiescence of 
the letter h in former times. Some words (e.g. 
bospital, humble) used never, till lately, to be 
sounded with the aspirate h. I can hardly believe 
that all the words beginning with h in the au- 
thorized version of the Bible, which have the 
article an prefixed, were aspirated when the trans- 
lation was made. S. T. P. 



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[5 th S. V. JAN. 2i 



LONDON BRIDGE (5 th S. v. 9.) The tithes of 
the houses on old London Bridge were paid to the 
Rector of St. Magnus'. J. CHARLES Cox. 

NUMISMATIC (5 th S. iv. 449.) The 1797 broad- 
rim pennies and twopenny pieces of George III. 
are well-known and common coins. They are of 
exactly similar design, and weigh 1 oz. and 2 oz. 
respectively. The twopence was in common circu- 
lation, but occurs only with the date of 1797. It 
was made current by proclamation of July 26, 
1797, and the word " SOHO " (in minute letters on 
the rocks on the reverse) shows that the coin was 
struck at Boulton's celebrated Soho Mint, near 
Birmingham. The initial " K " on the bust is that 
of Kughler, a German die-sinker, in Boulton's 
employ. The twopenny pieces, although not often 
met with, were actually in circulation until about 
1861-62, when all the old copper coins were called 
in. HENRY W. HENFRET. 

"FIRMING" (5 th S. iv. 428.) "After firming 
up to W$d." " Firming : ' in this sense is not an 
Americanism. J. BRANDER MATTHEWS. 

Lotos Club, KY. 

E. BRANDON, THE EXECUTIONER (5 th S. v. 46.) 
I direct your correspondent to The Confession 
of E. Brandon, Brit. Mus. Lib., E. 561/14 ; An 
Exact and Impartial Accompt, &c., E. 1047/3 ; 
The Last Will and Testament of R. Brandon, &c., 
E. 561/12 ; A Dialogue, &c., 669, f. 14/51 ; A 
Letter sent out of Holland, &c., E. 121/42 ; The 
Hangman's Joy, &c.. E. 1842/2 ; also, E. 1046/10, 
p. 12 ; and in the Catalogue of Satirical Prints in 
the British Museum, Nos. 760, 761, 762. There 
is a curious reference to this Brandon, i. e. Richard, 
the son of Gregory, the still more famous " soul- 
sender," as they called him, in Ansty's Eegister of 
the Garter, 1724, ii. 399, a case not without its 
fellow in a recently related tale of the ambition of 
one of the family of Sanson, those hereditary 
princes of the axe. F. G. STEPHENS. 

Hammersmith. 

" ST. IRVYNE ; OR, THE EOSICRUCIAN " (5 th S. v. 
19), is a juvenile production of Shelley's, which 
critics are agreed upon regarding as rubbish, but 
which has been preserved by what Mr. Swinburne 
calls the " evil fidelity " of some of the poet's early 
friends. St. Irvyne was reprinted, with Shelley's 
name, by Hazlitt in vol. iii. of The Novelist, and 
it has been more lately included in a very incorrect 
edition of some of Shelley's works issued by the 
late John Camden Hotten. H. B. F. 

m " NESS " (5^ S. iv. 265 ; v. 56.) It is astound- 
ing to learn that this word is Irish, and signifies 
death ! There are in Yorkshire at least a dozen 
promontories (and inland villages on promontories) 
called Ness, and the Naze of Norway, and the 



Naze in Essex ; Dungeness, Sheerness, &c. It 
means " nose " (Dunnose). W. G. 

PRE-REFORMATION CHURCH PLATE (5 th S. v. 
48.) MR. IND will find some old church plate at 
Stonyhurst, at Ushaw, and, I think, in the pos- 
session of Cardinal Manning. There ought to be 
some at Durham Cathedral. If he writes to the 
presidents of -the above-named colleges they will 
give him every information. W. G. TODD. 

"FURMETY" (5 th S. iv. 46, 95, 139, 238, 295.) 
" Fromety " or " frumety " (frumentum) is, or till 
lately was, eaten on the village feast-day at 
Chideock (or Chidiock) in Dorsetshire. It was 
made of boiled wheat, milk, and raisins. 

F. A. WELD. 

Government House, Hobart Town, Tasmania. 

HAMOAZE (5 th S. iv. 349, 396.) The follow- 
ing is quoted from the curious work of the eccen- 
tric George Dyer of Exeter, bookseller and anti- 
quarian, A Restoration of the Ancient Modes of 
Bestowing Names . . . Exeter, 1805, p. 75 : 

"Ramose, the harbor of this river, is translated the 
'Oozy Habitation.' As we proceed we improve. The 
Plym was the ' rolling water.' The water here is ren- 
dered the ' Oozy Habitation ! ' But the derivation of 
this fine harbor is tbe same as the Ouse in Yorkshire, 
and comes from ad changed to as, aus, and ous water. . . 
Ham, which has been shown to mean border, has been. 
derived from Ammon ; and villages having been built on 
hams, and the word found in their names, it hath been 
rendered village, town, &c. Hainose and the Tamer, 
however, mean the border water. The first name was 
perhaps adopted by Athelstan, when this river was made 
the boundary between the Cornish and the Saxons; for 
it seems to be a Saxon translation of Tamer." 

Tamer he had already shown to be derived from 
tarn, Gaelic for stream, and ar, great, or err. border. 

T. D. 

Exeter. 

TITLE OF " EIGHT HONOURABLE" (5 th S. iii. 
328, 495 ; iv. 274.) This title (as I was once in- 
formed by one well instructed in the matter) is 
always applied to a " lord " ; any one by right or 
courtesy addressed as " lord " (this or that) should 
be addressed, if a layman, as " Eight Honourable," 
if a bishop " Eight Reverend." Members of the 
Privy Council are all " Eight Honourables," be- 
cause, whether peers or civilians, the title is " Lords 
of H.M. Privy Council." C. 

REV. DR. GEORGE WALKER (5 th S. ii. 247 ; iii. 
56, 193 ; iv. 275.) Looking over the third 
volume of the present series, I find I have, by 
some means, omitted hitherto noticing MR. 
PIGOTT'S query relative to Mrs. Maxwell of Falk- 
land. My authority for the statements at p. 56 
of that volume was the memorial of the deed of 
conveyance to Mr. Conyngham, which I found 
long ago in the office for the Registry of Deeds, 



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NOTES AND QUERIES. 



77 



&c., in Dublin. The deed was registered in the 
year 1728 in book 61, p. 244. 

To reconcile the statements there may be one of 
two explanations, either that Sir Bernard Burke 
was misled by the account received from the Max- 
well family, or else that the father of the famous 
Governor of Deny was himself a doctor of 
divinity. I should say the latter is very probably 
the real one. Y. S. M. 

HENRY CLARKE, LL.D. (5 th S. iii. 307, 414, 
517 ; iv. 318 ; v. 36.) Many years ago I knew a 
Miss Clarke, who was the daughter of Dr. Henry 
Clarke ; she used to visit one of my friends. I 
well remember her talking about the wonderful 
attainments of her father ; amongst other things 
she said he knew no less than twenty languages, 
and often allowed himself only two hours' sleep 
ach night for months together. Dr. Clarke must 
have died very poor, for she had to keep a day- 
school for her maintenance. I have some recollec- 
tion of her mentioning a brother or brothers. I 
think they were in the army, and lived in Canada. 
Miss Clarke died some time since unmarried. 

This lady had a sister, who married a Mr. Jo- 
nathan Wood, a Dissenting minister, who kept a 
boarding-school for boys in a town in the West 
Riding of Yorkshire ; but eventually he became 
chaplain to a cemetery at Harpurheys, near Man- 
chester, and I believe died there. Mrs. Wood 
had a son and daughter ; the son's name was 
Joseph. If they are living, they might be able to 
give some information respecting their maternal 
grandfather. 

Both these sisters, like many other children of 
learned men, had not had the privilege of receiving 
more than an ordinary education. What Dr. 
Clarke's physique may have been I do not remem- 
ber to have heard his daughters say, but both 
these ladies were remarkably short, just something 
more than dwarfs. H. E. WILKINSON. 

Anerley, S.E. 

SHAKING HANDS (5 th S. iv. 487 ; v. 15.) I 
know not how it may have been in France, but in 
Germany this custom certainly prevailed before 
the time mentioned by ELLCEE. In Schiller's 
Hduber and Kabale und Liebe, for instance, this 
mode of greeting is used by the dramatis persona;, 
not as anything new, but as a familiar custom. 

F. McP. 

GHAUTS (5 th S. iv. 405, 456.) I became ac- 
quainted with this word at Whitby, some years 
since, and, doubting whether it could be cor- 
rectly described as " a common name for a narrow 
street," I applied to Mr. Robinson, of Whitby by 
far the best authority for the meaning of words 
used at that place and he informs me that it is 
4t a narrow gut or slip, opening at the side of a long 
or main street, and going down to the sea or har- 



bour beach." The word is only applied to those 
passages which lead to the harbour ; and, as far as 
I can discover, it is used in no other place in 
England. But in India it is applied in a similar 
manner to the approaches to the Ganges. 

As Whitby has long been famed for its seamen 
(of whom Captain Cook was one), I at first thought 
that the word might have been introduced from 
India ; and possibly that may have been the case. 
But as the word has long been used at Whitby, I 
doubted whether that was so ; and as Arabic 
words are used in India, and " there are many 
Arabic words in English" (Quart Rev., Oct., 1875, 
p. 452), I searched Golius's Arab. Lex., and there 
I found an Arabic word, the English pronunciation 
of which may be "ghaut" or "gaut," and the 
meaning of which may be a low or hollow place, 
into which a person may descend out of sight ; and 
as every one descending a ghaut to a harbour 
would go down out of the sight of those above, it 
struck me that this might cause the name to be 
given to such places. Since this occurred to me, I 
have discovered that the word is properly appli- 
cable to the passes which lead from the summits 
of the mountains in India down to the plains 
beneath. This application of the word is quite 
consistent with the supposition tha^ it may be 
derived from the Arabic word. 

Gote, with its various spellings of goyte, goite, &c., 
is well known ; it means a ditch, sluice, gutter, or 
channel, made for the purpose of conveying water 
along it, and for no other purpose (Jacob, L. D. ; 
Kelham, Norm. D. ; Ash, Diet., &c.). W. G. quite 
correctly gives one instance of its application to 
" the channel which takes the water from the mill- 
wheel back to the main stream." It is commonly 
found among the general words in conveyances of 
water-mills, in company with words of similar 
meaning ; such as race or leat, " a trench for con- 
veying water to or from a mill" (Bailey, Dict^. 
In Dugdale's Imbanldng^ p. 243, cited by Halli- 
well, " two new gotes for drayning the waters out. 
of South Holand and the fens" are mentioned. 
The clear distinction between gote and ghaut is, 
that gote is always used to denote some passage for 
water, and never a passage for persons ; and ghaut 
is always used to denote a passage for persons, and 
never a passage for water. It cannot, therefore, be 
that ghaut is another form of gote. C. S. G. 

Compare " Gowts," a term applied at Saltfleetby 
in Lincolnshire to a set of trap-doors, raised by 
chains on rollers, for letting the water out of the 
higher level in a large drain into a lower ; the 
name of a church in Lincoln, near the river *' St. 
Peter's at Gowts " ; and " St. Cuthbert's Gut," a 
narrow rocky channel in Fame Island. 

J. T. F. 

Hatfield Hall, Durham. 

The Aryan or Sanskrit verb gd, to go, is written 



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[5 th S. V. JAN. 22, 76. 



without an h, and ghat, a mountain or river pass, 
with one ; therefore if ghaut, as used in Whitby, 
is a mis-spelling of the Saxon geat, it was probably 
carried from Europe into India subsequent to the 
Crusades but prior to the Mahabharata, towards 
the end of the fifteenth and beginning of the six- 
teenth centuries. R. K. W". ELLIS. 
Star-cross, near Exeter. 

About half a mile from Cockermouth, and con- 
tiguous to Papcastle, is situated a large mill, known 
as the Goat Mill. This was, no doubt, the baro- 
nial mill when Pipards Castle, of which the present 
name of the village is a corruption, existed on the 
site of the ancient Eoman fortress. Pipards Castle 
was dismantled and abandoned in favour of Cocker- 
mouth Castle not later than the fourteenth century. 
This gives considerable antiquity to the mill, but 
other circumstances lead me to believe that it may 
be contemporary with the Roman occupation. 
Beckman proves the pre-medireval origin of water 
corn-mills, and I should be glad to learn whether 
any exist which may, with some degree of proba- 
bility, be ascribed to the Roman era. 

War. JACKSON. 

Possibly EBORACUM may not have got at the 
origin of the word ghaut in his quotation from 
Young. The word ghat means, in Hindustani, a 
piece of water enclosed and built round. Thus we 
should say in India " Dhobee-Ghaut," literally 
the washerman's washing-place. I have seen a 
place thus named, and the word I think has a 
wider acceptation. In Young's quotation I see 
the word gote is used in the sense of an enclosure 
of, or defence against, water ; possibly, therefore, 
the root may be the same. Or the name may have 
been got accidentally later, and perverted in its 
application to a street. Some time ago, in. Devon- 
shire, I heard a farmer use the word " catamaran" 
contemptuously of something very rickety and 
unsafe, and found out afterwards that he had used 
the name of the most rickety and perilous of boats, 
a raft used by the natives in which to take out fruit 
to ships at Bombay. HOPELESS. 

LOUISE LATEAU (5* S. iv. 513 ; v. 55.)! can 
add one more item to the bibliography of " the 
mystic of Bois d'Haine " which appeared at the 
last reference, namely, the opening article, entitled 

La Maladie des Mystiques Louise Lateau " of 
*o. 41(10 Avril), 2' Serie, 4- Annee, of the Revue 
Scienlifique, published by G. Bailliere. The ar- 
ticle extends over .eleven pages, each of two 
columns, of the above periodical. 

J. C. GALTON, F.L.S. 

THE LATE JOSEPH CLARK OF HULL (5> S. iv 

49, 495.) This query appears to have been 

answered under a mistake as to the individual in 

[ have collected the following parti- 



culars, which are authentic. Mr. Joseph Clark 
(not James) was one of the original proprietors of 
the Hull Theatre. He was born about a century 
ago. He enjoyed the friendship and acquaintance 
of the celebrated Tate Wilkinson, the elder 
Mathews, and many other notabilities of the time. 
His collection of playbills and theatrical memo- 
randa was the most extensive and curious in the 
North of England. Amongst them was said to be 
the correspondence between Tate Wilkinson and 
his actors, and other matters connected with their 
engagement. Mr. Joseph Clark also prepared the 
extensive catalogue of the Hull Subscription 
Library, a work of great labour. He was also 
mathematical editor of the Hull Rockingham, a 
great Liberal newspaper in its day, but many 
years defunct. He died about twenty years ago, 
upwards of eighty years of age. He was a gentleman 
of independent means and a bachelor. He left 
his collection of playbills and memoranda to the 
late Mr. Robert Bowser, treasurer of the new 
Hull Theatre, after whose death, in 1873, they 
were sold by auction in Hull. The greater part of 
the playbills was purchased, I believe, by a 
gentleman of Barton, Lincolnshire, and I know 
that some of them have since come into the posses- 
sion of Mr. Gunnell, Leonard Street, Hull, himself 
a great collector of playbills and local history. 
The Mr. Clark ^ of Anlaby is a totally different 
person. As this gentleman happens to be the 
present librarian of the Hull Subscription Library, 
your correspondent has been led into the mistake 
that suggested his reply. J. J. 

DERMID O'MEARA (5 th S. iv. 467 ; v. 35.) 
There is a short account of Dermitius Meara, or 
de Meara, in Wood's Athen. Oxonien. He was 
born at Ormond, in Ireland, studied for sixteen 
years in the universities of Oxford, Paris, and 
Cambridge, and subsequently " practised physic in 
Ireland, and gained great repute for his happy 
success therein." He was " esteemed a good poet 
during his conversation among the Oxonians." 
The poems on the Earl of Ormonde were printed 
at London in 1615, under the title of Ormonius 
sive illustriss. herois ac domini, D. Thomce Butler 
Ormonice et Ossorice comitis, &c. Lowndes states 
that there are copies of them in the British 
Museum and in the Bodleian. He also wrote 
several medical treatises, one of which, entitled 
De Morbis Hcereditariis, was printed at Dublin in 
1619. His son Edmund Meara was also educated 
at Oxford, and practised for some years as a phy- 
sician at Bristol. His medical writings were 
published at London in 1665, and at Amsterdam 
in 1666, and include a reprint of his father's 
treatise. EDWARD SOLLY. 



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NOTES ON BOOKS, &0. 

Ranulpki de Coggeshall Chronicon Anglicanum; De 
Expugnatione Terrce Sanctce Libellus ; Thomas Ag- 
nellus de Morle et Sepultura Henrici Reais Anglice 
Junioris ; Gesta Fulconis Filii Warini ; Excerpla ex 
Otiis Imperialibus Gervasii Tileluriensis. Ex Codici- 
bus Manuscriptis edidit Josephus Stevenson. (Long- 
mans.) 

THIS title-page shows the variety to be found in this 
volume of English chronicles and memorials published 
by government authority. Perhaps the most interesting 
details are those concerning the death and burial (with 
attending miracles) of Prince Henry. There is also a 
significant entry at p. 4 : " MCII. Anselmus Archiepis- 
copus tenuit concilium cum omnibus Angliae eplscopis ; 
et plures Abbates tarn Francigenos quam Anglos, quern 
inhoneste se habuerunt, degradavit ; cunctisque prohibuit 
presbyteriis diutius uxores haberi." 

A New History of A lerdeenshire. Edited by Alexander 
Smith, C.E. 2 vols. (Aberdeen, Lewis Smith ; Lon- 
don and Edinburgh, Blackwood & Sons.) 
SCOTLAND is distinguished for the excellence of many of 
the histories of the Scottish counties, and Mr. Smith has 
the merit of having placed a new history of Aberdeen- 
shire among the foremost in merit and interest among 
such histories. The volumes or parts bristle with sta- 
tistics which must have cost much labour ; but inter- 
esting historical and social details are not wanting. 
Such volumes form part of the chronicles of Great 
Britain, and claim to be perused and studied not merely 
locally but generally. Mr. Smith states that in point of 
extent Aberdeenshire comes fourth, namely, after Ar- 
gyle, Inverness, and Perth shires ; but in point of popu- 
lation it stands third, following Lanarkshire and Mid- 
Lothian the shire of Edinburgh. An excellent map 
very much facilitates the progress of the reader as he 
travels through the book. 

The Quarterly Review. No. 281, January. (Murray.) 
The Quarterly begins the year full of life, vigour, and 
intelligence. The first article, " Hatfield House," deals 
with the Cecils and the past; the concluding article, 
"Merchant Shipping," treats of a burning question of 
the present time. Between these two, various papers 
throw light on bygone characters Swift, Wordsworth 
compared with Gray, and the French critic, Sainte 
Beuve, who rather suffers than profits by close examina- 
tion. Three important subjects are ably discussed under 
the titles, " The Armed Peace of Europe," " Parliament 
and the Public Moneys," and "Modern Methods in 
Navigation and Nautical Astronomy "; and " The Nor- 
man Kingdom in Sicily " takes the reader from the 
vexed questions of the hour to one which was productive 
of much wonder and excitement ages ago. In a note, 
- p. 16, in the first article, there is this reference to Shak- 
speare : " To Mr. Thomas Combe the poet bequeathed 
his sword, a clear indication and not the only one of 
Shakspeare's regard for gentility. This may help to 
explain something of that sense of humiliation betrayed 
in the Sonnets, at his profession as an actor and tragedian, 
and the sorrowful tone in which he vindicates his dra- 
matic writings from * the fools and fightings,' the bear- 
baitings and Bartlemy shows, with which an indiscrimi- 
nating public was too apt to confound them." 

The Earls of Middleton, Lords of Clermont and of 
Feltercairn, and the Middleton Family. By A (J 
Biscoe. (H. S. King & Co.) 

MR. BISCOE Las told, with taste and judgment, the in- 
teresting story of the two Earls of Middleton. The first 



was the celebrated soldier who fought against Charles I. 
and for Charles II., and who was more drunk than sober 
during that time, and throughout the period he managed 
the affairs of Scotland for the latter king. The second 
earl was the faithful servant of James II. and his queen, 
alike in their prosperity and their adverse days. The 
story of both earls is narrated with happy brevity ; the 
reader is interested in every detail, and he closes a plea- 
sant book with a grateful regret. 

AMONG books received are a well- compiled and well- 
annotated Catalogue of the Library and Museum of the 
IHockmakers' Company of London, by Mr. Overall, A 
'acetious volume by John \V. Jarvis, The Glyptic, or 
Musie Phusy Glyptie, a chapter of jottings from Strat- 
ford-on-Avon and elsewhere (J. Russell Smith), which 
will amusingly fill a spare hour, Waifs and Strays, by 
Captain Hugh Kennedy (Morgan), maybe recommended 
;o chess-players as well as to the general reader, The 
Dwellers in Our Gardens: their Lives and Works, by 
Sara Wood (Groombridge & Sons), is an elegant little 
volume on birds, insects, &c., very attractive to young 
naturalists, and, not too late for the season, Christmas 
Chimes and New Year Rhymes (Pickering), which is 
original, and sometimes agreeably perplexing. 



AUTHORS AND QUOTATIONS WANTED (5 th S. v. 19.) 
' Rise, Jupiter, and snuff the moon." The story goes 
on what authority I know not that this was said by 
Nat Lee, the author of Alexander the Great and other 
ranting tragedies, when he was confined in Bedlam, and 
was trying to write in his cell by moonlight. A cloud 
darkened the moon, and he cried out, " Rise," &c. ; but 
the darkness increased, and he exclaimed, " Ye envious 
gods ! he has snuff'd it out." S. T. P. 

'' NEAR, so VERY NEAR TO GOD," &c., is attributed to 
Capt. Catesby Paget, a well-known, uncompromising 
Christian. It was written in or about the year 1855 by 
him. J. F. E. 

Bristol. 

A BRISTOL AND GLOUCESTERSHIRE ARCH.EOLOGICAL 
SOCIETY is at last about to be established. The origina- 
tors truly remark that " Gloucestershire, though wanting 
neither in archaeologists nor in the materials of archge- 
ology, has long been wanting in archaeological organiza- 
tion. Nature itself, indeed, may be said to have prepared 
her both by structure and by position for the theatre of 
those historic energies and events of which a rich anti- 
quity is the vestige. Occupying the lower courses of the 
largest river system and river valley in Great Britain, 
she has always commanded, whether for war or com- 
merce, the ports and maritime passes of the west. 
Occupying, too, the considerable heights that fortify the 
opposite sides of this river valley, she commands what is 
perhaps at once both physically and historically the chief 
border land of the island a border land which, having 
the Welsh mountain fastnesses on the one side, and the 
Midland hills on the other, has formed a natural battle 
ground for all the competing races and most of the con- 
tending parties in the development of our country." 

THE LATE MR. SWIFTE. For the honour of my profes- 
sion and of my Inn of Court, I may add to the information 
respecting Mr. Swifte furnished by I. L. S. and by the 
Dublin Warder, that he was called to the Bar at the 
Middle Temple in 1815 (having previously been called to 
the Irish Bar). See an obituary notice in the La^o 
Times for Jan. 15, 1876. MIDDLE TEMPLAR. 



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[5 th S. V. JAN. 22, 76. 



t0 

ON all communications should be written the name sad 
address of the sender, not necessarily for publication, but 
as a guarantee of good faith. 

g p Confusion of two terms, between Calotin and 
Caralin. Calotin means a strolling player. Henry de 
Kock, in his Memoires cVun Calotin did for the life of 
such a humble French player what S. W Eyley did 
some sixty years ago, in his Itinerant, to illustrate the 
life of an English stroller. Cara6ii=medical student, 
occurs in Alfred de Musset's pretty ballad, Mimi Pinson: 
" Elle a les yeux et les mains prestes, 

Les Carabins, matin et soir, 
Usent les manches de leurs vestes, 
Landirerette ! 
A son comptoir. 

Quoique sans maltraiter personne, 
Mitni leur fait mieux la legon 

Qu'ti la Sorbonne, 
II ne faut pas qu'on la chiffonne 

La robe de Mimi Pinson." 

We observe that in the current number of the Quarterly 
(p. 182) Caralin, quoted from Sainte Beuve,_is translated 
" sawbones." Boiste gives among the meanings of Cara- 
lin " eleve en chirurgie (fig. famil.}." 

X. S. To Heywood, Shakspeare, Cervantes, Donne, 
Herbert, Burton, who use the term "comparisons are 
odious," or "offensive," or (in Dogberry's phrase) 
" odorous," you may add Congreve, whose Captain Blufle 
(Old Bachelor, Act ii. sc. 2) says, " Hannibal was a very 
pretty fellow ; but, Sir Joseph, comparisons are odious. 
Hannibal was a very pretty fellow in those days, it must 
be granted ; but, alas ! sir, were he alive now, he would 
be nothing nothing in the earth ! " This sample is not 
given in the book of quotations to which you refer. 
W T . M. M. will find, in Dante's Inferno, canto v. 121 : 

" Nessun maggior dolore 
Che ricordarsi del tempo felice 
Nella miseria." 

We further refer him to Campbell's Pleasures of Hope 
(part ii. 45) for something like a parallel in sentiment, 
if not in expression : 

" While memory watches o'er the sad review 
Of joys that faded like the morning dew." 
Well-read correspondents can doubtless furnish him 
with other parallels. 

C. M. A. The Princess Marie Charlotte Sobiesk 
(grand-daughter of Sobieski, King of Poland, and sister 
to the wife of the "Old Pretender ") married two brothers, 
sons of the Duke de Bouillon. Her first husband Avas 
the duke's eldest son, the Prince de Turenne, who died a 
week after the marriage, 1723, aged twenty-four years 
In the following year the lady, having obtained a dis 
pensation from Rome, at great cost, married the younger 
brother, the Prince de Bouillon, who was only eighteen 
years of age. 

CLARKY. Perhaps the author could, and more pro 
bably he could not, tell what he means in the verses he 
has written. On application to him, he might deign tc 
explain the sublime unintelligibility. 

C. G. H., referring to " Heraldic " (5 th S. v. 54), wishe 
to substitute " Sir Walter Blount " instead of " Sir Joh 
Blount." The latter was the father of Sir Walter. 

PALMER'S " PERLUSTRATION OF YARMOUTH." The pub 
lisher is Mr. George Nail, 182, King Street, Marke 
Place, Great Yarmouth. 

HEYWOOD : ATHEN^EUS (ante, p. 45.) MR. P. J. F 
GANTILLON refers to a communication by himself i 
"N.& Q.,"2" d S. i. 311. 



BRic-A-BnAC.-See " N. & Q.," 4 th S. ii. 228. 
MATTHEW GOCH. See ante, p. 8. 
ERRATUM. P. 41, col. ii., "crowns of sea-birds white" 
hould be " crowns of sea-buds white." 

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CONTENTS. N 109. 

NOTES : A List of English Words used by French Writers, 
and missing in Littre's Dictionnaire, 81 Extracts from the 
Parish Registers of Charlton Kings, Gloucestershire, 82 The 
Etymology of " Humbug," 83 Col. Hutchinson's Orders to 
the Garrison at Nottingham, 1644, 84 -Ducks and Drakes 
fcilent H Beer, 85 The Schoolboy to the Fore Bridges's 
"Northamptonshire" Reading the Nicene Creed Swift's 
Metaphors, 86. 

QUERIES :" Who was Swinney ?"" Coming through the 
rye" Old Engraving of Dawson of Sedbergh S. Prout, 87 
fcdgar Allan Poe Prediction of the Crimean War" Com- 
mentarie upon the Epistle to the Galatians " Prichit-gurh, 
A:c. Robert Brown " Concerning Snakes in Iceland," &c. 
"The Pilgrimage of Princes "" Weather-holes," 88 
Bishop Jewel's "Seven Godley Sermons" "The Ancient 
Mariner" Pile Family of Bray, Berks Pastoral Staff at 
Dol "The Curse of Kirkstall Abbey," &c.-" Cannon to 
right," &c. Ryecharde Benetley The Court of High Com- 
missionI. O. U., 89. 

REPLIES : Grimm's Law, 89 Philological-Milton's Forestry, 
91 Abbatial Ordination, 92 Major Francis Peirson 
Epitaph in Cashel Cathedral "Non est vile corpus," &c., 
93 -The Princess Sobieska " Old King Cole "Handel's 
Organs Tennyson: "The Princess" "As coarse as 
Garasse" Metal Tobacco Pipes The Trade of Tanning- 
Old London Churches, 94 " The Northern Magazine" 
Coat of Arms " A Touchstone for Gold," &c. A Follower 
of the Stuarts, 95 "The Peace Egg " " Iripica " or 
" Hilepica " Hats Worn at Meals "Acker" Llewelyn ap 
Griffith Die-sinkers " Attorney," 96 Relationship 
Sacrament Shilling Lord Mansfield" There was an ape," 
&c. " Civiers " The Charterhouse : Beavors Gipsies : 
Tinklers, 97 Pre-Reformation Church Plate Ivy: Ivvy: 
Ivory Heraldic Bell-Frogs in England Medallic, 98. 

Notes on Books, &c. 



fiatts. 

A LIST OF ENGLISH WORDS USED BY FRENCH 
WRITERS, AND MISSING IN LITTRE'S DIG- 
T10NNA1RE. 

(Continued from p. 24.) 

Cape (with the English meaning of cap). " En le 
voyant ainsi avec ses vetements converts de boue, sa 
barbe longue,8es cheveuxen desordre, qui s'echappaient 
de sa cape de chasse qu'il pardait sur sa tete, je pouvaia 
a peine le reconnaitre." Eug. Sue, Mathilde, 2 me part., 
xxvi., vol. ii. 217. Paris, A. Lacroix, Verboeckoven et 
C ie , 1869. 

The French word cape means a kind of hooded 
cloak. 

Car. "Prenez le car qui court sur le tramway" 
L. Simonin, New- York et la Societe Americaine ; Revue 
des Deux Mondes, l r Dec., 1874, 678. 

Carpet-bagger. " Lea desastreuses suites de la guerre 
de secession qui ont mine le sud et 1'ont livre en proie 
aux ignobles carpet-baggers." Id., ibid. 688. 

Charge. " Les universitcs se taisaient,...les eveques 
eux-meraes restaient muets, sauf pourtant celui de Win- 
chester, qui dirigea une charge ou mandement centre lea 
JUssais [Assays and Reviews, Oxford, I860]." Alb. Re- 
ville, L'Anglicanisme Liberal ; Revue des Deux Mondes, 
15 Aout, 1875, 888. 

Chief -justice. " Je donne mon en tier assentiment a 
cette opinion du lord chief-justice d'Angleterre, qui dit 
quo \' Alabama aurait du etre retenu pendant les quatre 
jours durant lesquels j'attendais 1'avis des officiers 
legaux." Lord Russell, quoted by A. Laugel, Revue des 
Deux Mondes, 15 Avril, 1875, 912. 

Chieftain. "Les h>c/hlanders sont divises en tribus ou 



clans sous des chefs ou chieftains, et chaque clan se sub- 
divise en souches egalement sous des chieftains." Skene, 
quoted by E. de Laveleye, Les Lois des Brehons ; Rev. des 
Deux Mondes, 15 Avril, 1875, 792. 

Christmas. " Le Christmas est, et surtout etait, pour 
Londres, comme le carnaval pour Venise, un temps de 
mascarades, de rejouissance, et de frairie." Th. Gautier, 
Les Beaux- Arts en Europe, vol. i. ii. 15. Paris, Michel 
Levy, 1857. 

Clergyman. "La ou les clergymen ont echoue, les 
maitres et les maitresses d'ecole seront impuissants." 
Odysse-Barrot, Histoire de la Literature Anglaise Con- 
temporaine, viii. 382. Paris. Charpentier, 1874. " Un 
grave clergyman venait d'offrir a un malade les con- 
solations de la religion." L. Boucher, Ch. Dickens et 
son dernier Biographe ; Rev. des Deux Mondes, l r Mars, 
1875, 100. 

Cloud-ring. " Aux environs de 1'equateur le soleil 
puise dans la mer des quantites d'eau considerables qui 
forment cette zone nuageuse que les Anglais appellent 
cloud-ring." J. Clave, Etude de M eteorologie forestiere ; 
Rev. des Deux Mondes, l r Juin, 1875, 633. 

Club. " Policemen en uniforme armes du lourd club 
de bois, le casse-tete redoute." L. Simonin, Les Enfans 
des Rues a New-York; Rev. des Deux Mondes, l r Avril, 
1875, p. 72. 

Littre has the word only with the meaning of 
society, association. 

Cock (corrupted spelling of cook ; the cook of a ship). 
"Apres la comedie le repas cut lieu, gigantesque- 
agape, prodigieux festin de Gargantua, colossales noces 
de Gamache, produit combine du chef de I'ambassade et 
du cock du Charlemagne." Th. Gautier, Constantinople,, 
MX. 359. Paris, Michel Levy, 1857. 

Cocker." Cockers du Suffolk. Fanny et Flora, l r 
prix, a M. Heath. Exposition de 1863." Dr. J. C. 
Chenu, Les Trois Regnes de la Nature, 1864, p. 53.. 
Paris, L. Hachette et C ie . 

Cockney. " Les fameux Pickwick Papers, aventune* 
d'un cockney metropolitain." Odysse-Barrot, iv. 233^ 
" Les nombreux Anglais qui partagent les anxietes Fe 
sir Henry Rawlinson,...ne craignent pas comme les 
cockneys de Londres que la Russie mette la main sur les 
Indes.'" Rev. des Deiix Mondes, l r Aout, 1875, p. 679. 

Cocktail. "Voici maintenant les buvettes, les bars 
sacramentels, ou les grogs et les juleps de toute categoric, 
les cocktails, les saugries, les colters et lespunchsde com- 
position variee sont incessament verses par d'infatigables 
echansons ii des buveurs toujours alteres." L. Simonin, 
Revue des Deux Mondes, l r Janvier, 1875, p. 72. 

Crannoge. " Les crannoges ou habitations lacustres 
de I'lrlaiide." E. Goubert, in Dr. Chenu, Lei Troi* 
Regnes de la Nature, 1875, p. 73. 

Crown. " L'Observatoire de Paris possede depuis!855 
un disque de flint et un disque de crown, dont les dimen- 
sions sont suffisantes pour f aire un objectif de 75 centi- 
metres (pres de 30 pouces) de diametre." R. Radan, Les 
Observatoires de la Grande- Bretaqne ; Revue des Deux 
Mondes, 15 Septembre, 1875, p. 458. 

Darwinien. " L'hypothese darwinienne du trans- 
formisme et de la pansrenese." J. Soury, Rev. des Deux 
Mondes, 15 Janv., 1875, 437. 

Darwiniste. "C'est la loi de la nature, et de la 
'sele'ction,' diront les darwinistes." Em. de Laveleye, 
Revue des Dtux Mondes, 15 Juillet, 1875, p. 464. 

Denomination. " II en esc du raskol [in Russia*] 
comme du protestantisme, toutes ces sectes, toutes ces 
denominations, selon 1'heureuse expression des Anglais, 
ne constituent point toujours des confessions, des cultes 
differens." Anat. Leroy-Beaulieu, U Empire des Tsars 



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et Us Russes, ix. 2 ; Revue des Deux Mondes, l r Mai, 
1875, p. 54. 

This meaning of the word is not given by 
Littre\ 

Debater." Voila tout ce que le debater des anciens 
jours [Lord Russell] trouvait a dire." A. Laugel, Rev. 
des Deux Mondes, 15 Avril, 1875, p. 921. 

Dese'Uiblir." Lea partis qui s'y entrechoquent [dans 
1'Eglise nationale d'Angleterre] s'habituent a 1'idee de la 
desetablir." J. Milsand, Rev. des Deux Mondes, 15 Sep- 
tembre, 1874, p. 379. 

Dese'tablissement. "Le sacerdotalisme s' habitue a 
1'idee du desetablissemeni, qui le delivrerait de 1'opposi- 
tion des latitudinaires et des evangeliques." Id. ibid. 
382. 

Detective. " Nous insistatnes et finiraes par obtenir 
<Ieux detectives, deux de ces hommes aux formes 
athletiques, de vrais types de horse- guards, comnae la 
police municipale de New-York en atant." L. Simoriin, 
Rev. des Deux Mondes, l r Avril, 1875, p. 74. 

Directory. " S'armant des donnees de son directory, 
ce guide de commerce que toute cite americaine public 
chaque annee avec un soin vigilant,... Chicago pretend 
avoir aujourd'hui 500,000 habitans." L. Simonin, liev. 
des Deux Mondes, l r Avril, 1875, p. 586. 

Dissent. "II faut descendre dans 1'etage inferieur du 
ditsent Russe." Anat. Leroy-Beaulieu, ix. iii., Rev. des 
Devx Mondes, l r Mai, 1875, p. 79." L'evangelisme 
puritain baisse, du moins comme puissance a 1'interieur 
<ie 1'e'glise etablie ; mais il se refait dans le dissent, il ee 
retrempe dans les revivals." A. Reville, L'Anglicanisme 
Liberal; Rev. des Deux Mondes, 15 Aout, 1875, p. 891. 

Dissenter. " On bataillait depuis longtemps entre 
anglicans et dissenters, puseistes et evangeliques." Id. 
ibid. 884. 

Distress. " Dans 1'ancien droit anglais, nous trouvons 
a procedure du distress...^ plus etendu des traites des 
Jirthon Laws, le Senchus Mor, se rapporte presque 
entierement aux formalites du distress." Em. de 
Laveleye, Revue des Deux Mondes, 15 Avril, 1875, 
p. 790. 

Drift. " Le terrain glaciaire qui couvre 1'Ecosse, les 
deux tiers septentrionaux de 1'Angleterre et 1'Irlande 
tout entiere ; ils [les geologues angluis] le designent sous 
lenom de drift." Ch. Martins, Rev. des Deux Mondes, 
15 Avril, 1875, p. 857. 

Drink. " Le plus riche restaurateur de New- York, 
Delmonico, dix fois millioimaire, chez lequel tous les gens 
de Wall-street et des rues circonvoisines vont vers une 
heure prendre a la hate, debout, un lunch et un drink, 
c'eet a-dire manger un rnorceau et se desalterer." L. 
Simonin, Rev. des Deux Mondes, I 1 ' Decembre, 1875, 
1>. 664. "On avale des drinks tout le long du trajet." 
Id. ibid, l; Avril, 1875, p. 563. 

Elisabethien. " Ce n'est ni dans la poesie lyrique, ni 
dans ses riombreuses varietes, ni dans la satire, que 
resident 1'originalite et la puissance de 1'age Elisa- 
bethien." Odysse-Barrot, Intr. 23. 

Eric. " Votre sherif sera le bienvenu, mais faites-moi 
savoir quel est le prix de sa tete, afin que, si mes hommes 
la lui coupent, je puisse lever Yeric (eric, composition) sur 
le pays." The Irish Chieftain Maguire to the Lord De- 
puty Kir W. Fitzwilliam, quoted by E. de Laveleye ; 
liev. des Deux Mondes, 15 Avril, 1875, p. 789. 

Establishment. "Le dissent prit, grace a lui [grace au 
methoditme], des proportions inquietantes pour la conser- 
vation de I 1 establishment." A. Reville, Rev. des Deux 
Mondes, 15 Aout, 1875, p. 869. 

Etallissemenl (the French form of establishment). 
"11 [Lord Russell] considere Ye'tablissement comme une 
partie essentielle de cet admirable ensemble de conven- 



tions, de contrats, de devoirs et droits qui est le pie'destal 
de la statue anglaise." A. Laugel, Rev. des Deux Mondes, 
15 Avril, 1875, p. 894. 

Everglade. " Ils [les Indiens] avaient cherche une 
retraite inaccessible dans les everglades, vastes marais 
boises, ou le cypres, le magnolia et le palmier nain 
entretiennent une eternelle verdure." Comte de Paris, 
La Guerre civile en Amerique; Rev. des Deux Mondes, 
l r Juillet, 1874, p. 18. 

Fair-play. "Je renrerrais volontiers certains mate- 
rialistes de notre continent a cet exemple de fair-play, 
donne par un savant anglais [Prof. Tyndall]." A. Re- 
ville, Rev. des Deux Mondes, 15 Mars, 1875, p. 315. 

Fall ; falling . " Ce n'est plus [le peche originel, selon 
Rowland Williams] une chute, un fall accompli une fois 
pour toutes, c'est un falling, une chute permanente, se 
confondant avec notre inclination au mal moral." Id. 
ibid., 15 Aout, 1875, p. 883. 

Far-west. " Tout le far-iu est jusqu'au Pacifique vient 
s'alimenter la [a Chicago]." L. Simonin, l r Avril, 1875, 
p. 569. 

Fellow. " D'autres ont dit qu'il y avait en lui [en Mr. 
Gladstone] deux hommes, un chef de parti et un fellow 
d'Oxford, et que le chef de parti, lorsqu'il etait de loisir, 
empruntait la plume du fellow pour ecrire des disserta- 
tions sur Homere ou sur la theologie." Rev. des Deux 
Mondes, l r Juillet, 1875, p. 201. 

Ferry ; ferry-boat. "Des centaines de bateaux vont 
et viennent, au milieu desquels...les bacs a vapeur ou 
ferries qui relient les deux rives de 1'Hudson et de la 
riviere de 1'Est." L. Simonin, l r Decembre, 1874, p. 662. 
" On en avait vu [des street boys], chercheurs ingenieux, 
se glisser la nuit dans la cabine d'un ferry-boat ancre au 
port, c'etait la un logement de premiere classe." Id., 
l r Janv., 1875, p. 65. 

Flirtation. " La flirtation devient entre les mains de 
cette fille avisee un puissant auxiliaire de lapolitique." 
Th. Bentzon, Rev. des Deux Mondes, 15 Mars, 1875, 
p. 337. 

Flirter. " Elles [les misses de New- York] vont avec 
des amies, ou accompagnees de celui qui a 1 honneur de 
lea courtiser et de flirter ouvertement avec el les, caval- 
cader au Pare Central." L. Simonin, l r Decembre, 
1875, p. 685. " Les plus avenantes, les seules promenades 
souvent des grandes villes [en Syrie] sont leurs champs 
des morts. On y cause, on y mange, on y fume, on y 
fiirte."E. Melchior de Vogue, Journees de Voyage en 
Syrie; Rev. des Deux Mondes, l r Fevrier, 1875, p. 557. 

Foreign Office. "Les rapports publies en 1871 par le 
Foreign Office de Londres renferment des details precieux 
notamment sur la condition peu enviables des classes 
ouvrieres dans les pays du Levant." Revue des Deux 
Mondes, 15 Janv., 1875, p. 480. 

Fuidhir. Irish. " II y avait deux classes de fuidhirs, 
les saer et les daer fuidhirs. Les uns cultivaient les 
terres vagues que le seigneur leur concedait...Les autres 
se trouvaient dans un etat de domesticite servile ou 
d'esclavage." E. de Laveleye, Les Lois des Brehons ; 
Rev. des Deux Mondes, 15 Avril, 1875, p. 893. 

HENRI GAUSSERON. 

Ayr Academy. 

(To le continued.) 



EXTRACTS FROM THE PARISH REGISTERS OF 

CHARLTON KINGS, GLOUCESTERSHIRE. 
I send some extracts from the old parish regis- 
ters of Charlton Kings, near Cheltenham, which, 
unless I am mistaken, will be looked upon by 
many readers as interesting and curious. The 



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books date from November 14, 1538. They are 
continuous to the present time, and are almost 
perfect, one leaf only (which apparently contained 
entries from March, 1557, to December, 1558) 
having been torn out, and they are in an unusually 
good state of preservation. The extracts, in which 
I have preserved the spelling as in the originals, 
are as follows : 

1539. May. The 30 day was baptized Anne, the 
daughter of Thomas Galle's daughter, begotten in Walter 
Balenger's sonne. 

1539. August. The 16 day was Edward Wager mar- 
ried unto his wife Margret. [She was buried 12th 
November following.] 

1539. November. The 13 day was William Ballenger 
married to his wife Izabell. 

1540. November. The 21 day were married Edward 
Wager & Anne. 

1543. December. The twenty day was baptized John, 
the soiie of a traviler. 

1544. April. Baptized y e 4 day Izabell, supposed 
daughter to William Kinge, & buried y 7 day. 

1548. November. Married y 6 15 day John Rogers & 
Alice. 

1550. October. The 16 day married Thomas Whit- 
terne [Whithorne] & Fran'. 

1555. March. The 9 day baptized y e daughter of a 
travelinge woman, named Margret. 

1580. October. Baptized y" 20 day Frances, daug r 
to Elizabeth Danford, base born. 

1586-7. February. Buried y e 26 day a travilling* 
man. 

1587. May. Buried y e 8 day a poore man's childe. 

1587. August. Buried y' 19 day a travilinge woman. 

1655. November. Borne the 6 day Robert and Dori- 
thie, son and daughter of John Whithorn. [There are 
many other entries of birth.'] 

1662. August. Buried Widdow Werrett, an Almes- 
woman of Cheltenham. 

1676. May 14. ffrancis, sonn of a travieling woman. 

1680. December y' seventh. Buried M" Ann Jordan, 
wido, formerly the wife of Giles Grevile, gent. 

1681. November the !*. Buried Hen. Usell, aged 
one hundred y. 

1682. September 7. Buried Mary, the daughter of 
Mary Cleevly, widow. Small Pox. 

1688. May 1. Baptized Mary, the daughter of Wil- 
liam Webb, a Stranger. 

1688. October 20. Buried Mary Youing, midwife. 

1689-90. Mary, daughter of Walter & Mary Buckle. 
Borne y e 27 th of Ap, 1688. Baptz d y 18 th day of May 
following in y Parish of S* Leonard's Shoreditch, Lon- 
don : where she was also born : she desired to have it re- 
corded here. 

1693. October 3. Buried Thomas Clarke, y 1 came 
from Ireland. 

1698. April 7. Buried the base daughf of Elinor 
Cleevly, and reputed daughf of James Welsh, sine 
nomine. 

1699. October 29. Baptized Emanuell and Joseph, 
sons of Rob' Stiles and Susafia, his wife (at one birth). 

1701. November 26. Buried Nicholas Dowdswell, af 
Wheeler. 

1703-4. March 12. Buried Sam 1 Clark (y e Clark). 

1709-10. January 10. Buried Mary Harding, wid. 
(aged one hundred & one). 

1715. November 3. Buried James Booker, a Tra- 
veller. 

1729. May 31. Buried Jn Wilks, an infant strainger. 

1730. March 31. Baptized Richard Humphris (Adult). 



1730. October 4. Baptized Charlton, son of a Travel- 
ling Woman of the Parish, also of Badnum, Herefordshire 

(as she s d ). 

I might easily add to the number of extracts of 
the same kind, but the foregoing will, I think, 
suffice, at least for the present. There are very 
many entries in the books highly useful, as I have 
found them to be, in a genealogical point of view. 

Allow me, while writing about Charlton Kings, 
to append a short paragraph from Sir Robert 
Atkyns's State of Gloucestershire, p. 173 (second 
edit., London, 1768) : 

" Jesus College in Oxford has the nomination of the 
parson [of Cheltenham] from amongst their fellows ; and 
the Earl of Gainsborough has the approbation of him. 
The parson is only a stipendiary ; and by the agreement 
which Sir Baptist Hicks (ancestor of the same Earl) 
made with the College, who derive their title under him, 
he cannot continue longer than six years ; and the like 
agreement is made for the parish of Charleton Kings." 

The patronage of the parish of Cheltenham has 
passed into other hands, but that of Charlton 
Kings is still vested in the principal and fellows 
of Jesus College, Oxford. I shall be glad to know 
more respecting the aforesaid limitation, which I 
do not at present understand, the late Incumbent 
of Charlton Kings having held the post for up- 
wards of forty years. ABHBA. 



THE ETYMOLOGY OF "HUMBUG." 
In perusing the pages of Mann and Manners at 
the Court of Florence reviving, in a most agreeable 
manner, the pleasant memories derived from innu- 
merable standard works of that very pleasant, and, 
perhaps, most interesting of all the centuries, the 
eighteenth it was, it must be confessed, rather 
surprising to find the word "humbugging" oc- 
curring at so early a period as 1760, in one of the 
letters from Mann to Walpole. Referring to 
Tristram Shandy, then in course of publication, 
Mann writes (vol. ii. p. 71) : 

" You will laugh at me, I suppose, when I say that 
I don't understand it. It was probably the intention of 
the author that nobody should. It seems to me hum- 
bugging, if I have a right notion of an art of talking 
and writing that has been invented since I left England. 
It diverted me, however, extremely ; and I beg to have, 
as soon as possible, the two other volumes, which I see 
advertised in the papers for next Christmas." 

I once saw a statement in which the origin of 
the word "humbug" was attempted to be ac- 
counted for. Various origins were assigned to it ; 
but it seemed to be taken for granted that the 
word was the coinage of this century. Among 
these origins it was stated that, when Britain was 
declared by Napoleon I. to be in a state of blockade, 
Hamburg became, in consequence, a city of the 
greatest importance ; and one of the results was 
that a great deal of false news came from Ham- 
burg for the purpose of aifecting the stock and 
commercial markets, and that these and such 



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[5 th S. V. JAN. 29, 76. 



like false reports came to be called " Hamburg," 
which was softened into " humbug " ; and hence, 
it was said, the origin of the term. The preceding 
extract puts an end to any such idea. 

The word " humbug " is not given in the sixth 
edition of Dr. Johnson's Dictionary, published in 
1785, nor, it is believed, in the prior editions ; nor 
in Richardson's Dictionary, published in 1846 ; 
nor in The Student's English Dictionary, by Ogil- 
vie, published in 1866 ; but it occurs in Noah 
Webster's Dictionary, published in or about 1833, 
as follows : "Humbug, an imposition [a low 
word]." 

It seems, however, to be perfectly evident that 
Mann used the word as one of settled use and 
meaning when he wrote in 1760. I am not aware 
if any prior instance of its use can be found. It 
is more than probable that it had been one of 
those words which have floated about in popular 
parlance for many years, perhaps for many ages, 
before being reduced to writing. I would now 
submit that " humbug " is very closely related to 
the Latin word " ambage " (g hard), both in sound 
and in meaning, and consequently in origin. As 
showing the exact resemblance in meaning between 
these two words, allow me to extract from Little- 
ton's Latin Dictionary (4th edition, 1703) the 
meanings of " anibage." These are : 

" A long circumstance of words, a tedious story to no 
purpose, a tale of Robin Hood ; a compass or fetch 
about ; preambles, impertinencies, intricate passages, 
turnings and windings ; beating about the bush ; dark, 
mysterious sayings." 

Meanings more thoroughly descriptive of " hum- 
bug " than these cannot be conceived, with one 
exception, that of " a tale of Robin Hood " ; the 
value of " tales of Robin Hood " having risen very 
greatly in the market of literature since the year 
1703. But all the other meanings seem most 
fully to justify the conclusion that "anibage" and 
" humbug " are very slightly differing modifica- 
tions of the same word, unless proof of a very 
clear and most positive nature can be adduced to 
show the contrary. HENRY KILGOUR. 

[The title-page of the Universal Jester (published be- 
tween 1735-40) states that "the book is a choice collec- 
tion of ... clenchers, closers, bons mots, and humbug." 
In The Connoisseur, 1754-56, i. 108, "humbug" is de- 
fined as " a new-coined expression which is only to be 
found in the nonsensical vocabulary." In 1860 the 
Bookseller ^suggested the derivation of the word from 
" ambage," which word (implying tedious deceptive 
circumlocution) was employed as an English word by 
Puttenham, in his Art of Poesie, 1580, "Without any 
long study or tedious ambage " ; by Dekker, in his 
Whore of Babylon, 1607, " Y'are full of ambage "; and in 
Vicar's Virgil, 1632 : 

" The Cumzean Sibyl sings 
Ambiguous ambages " ; 
the rendering of 

" Cumaea Sibylla 
Horrendas canit ambages." 
For further information see " N. & Q.," !' S. vii. 550, 



631 ; viii. 64, 161, 232, 422, 494, 575 ; 3 rd S. v. 470 ; 4 th 
S. x. 331, 509.] 

COL. HUTCHINSON'S ORDERS TO THE GARRI- 
SON AT NOTTINGHAM, 1644. 

Amongst the Stretton MSS. in the Nottingham 
Free Public Reference Library is the following 
series of orders for the proper management of the 
garrison in Nottingham in 1644, signed by the 
" Maior," William Nix, and Col. Hutchinson. 

" Mr. Maior and the Governor doe require all psons 
whatsoever within this Garrison (for the better orderinge 
and governinge of the same) to take notice of their 
orders here following, as they will answer the contrary : 

"1. If anyone shall bee found idley standinge or 
walkinge in the streete in sermon tyme, or playing at 
any games upon the sabath or fast day, hee shall pay 
halfe a crowne, or suffer imprisonm 1 till hee pay the 
same. 

" 2. If anyone shall bee found drinkinge in any 
Taverne, Inne, or Alehouse on the sabath or fast day, 
hee shall pay 1 s , or suffer imprisonm 1 till hee pay the 
same ; And the m r of that house shall pay for every pson 
soe taken in it 1 s , and if hee offend the second tyme hee 
shall be disenabled for sellinge wine, ale, or beare any 
more. 

" 3. If any Taverne, Inne, or Alehouse soever shall sell 
any wine, ale, or beare out of their houses upon the 
sabath or fast day (except to any one who is sick), for 
the first offence he shall pay 10' 1 (1), for the second 1% 
amd for the third disenobled for sellinge any wine, ale, or 
beare any more. 

" 4. If any Tradesman shall carry home any worke to 
any of their Customers on the sabath day, they shall for- 
feit their work and suffer A weeks imprisonm*. 

" 5. If anyone shall keepe open any shoppe, or buy or 
sell any comodities whatsoever, on the sabath or fast 
dayes,the buyer shall pay 1 s , and the seller 1", and suffer 
imprisonm 1 till hee pay the same (unless it bee upon an 
extraordinary occasion for one that is sick). 

" 6. If anyone shall sweare, hee shall pay iij d for every 
oathe, or suffer imprisonm 1 till hee pay the same. 

" 7. If anyone shall be drunke, hee shall pay five shil- 
lings, or suffer imprisonm.* till hee pay the same ; and the 
m r of the house where hee was made drunke shall pay 1 s , 
and likewise suffer imprisonm* till hee pay the same. 

" 8. If anyone shall bee found tiplinge or drinkinge in 
any taverne, Inne, or Alehouse after the houre of nyne of 
the clock at night, when the Tap- too beates, hee shall pay 
2 s 6 d ; And the house for the first tyme shall pay 2 s 6' 1 
for every man so found, and the second tyme 5 s , and for 
the third tyme be disenabled for sellinge wine, ale, or 
beare any more. 

" 9. If any soldier shall bee found drinkinge in their 
Quarters after nyne of the clock at night when the Tap- 
too hath beaten, they shall pay 2 s , or suffer 24 hours im- 
prisonm' w th bread and water. 

" 10. If any Taverne, Inne, or Alehouse soever shall 
sell any wine, ale, or beare (except upon an extraordinary 
occasion to one that is sick) after the houre of nyne of 
the clock at night, after the taptoo hath beaten, untill 
the Rerelly hath beaten the next morninge, hee shall 
pay I 3 , or suffer imprisonm 4 till hee pay the same ; and 
hee who fetchets the drinke after the aforesaid houre 
shall pay 2" 6 d , or suffer imprisonm* till hee pay the same. 

" Whosoever shall give Information of any pson who 
shall comitt any of these offences, he shall have halfe the 
penalties sett upon them for his reward. 

"WILL. Nix, Maior. 

"JOHN HCTCHINSOIC." 



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On the back of the sheet of foolscap folio paper 
on which the above is written there is a note, 
giving instructions for a corporal to " See to y 
executing these orders to-day," and dated " Sab- 
bath, December (erasure) 1644." 

The Stretton MSS. consist chiefly of legal docu- 
ments relating to land in the neighbourhood of 
Nottingham and Ashby-de-la-Zouch, including 
several transfers of land from and to Richard 
Mellers, the Nottingham bell-founder, and Dame 
Agnes Mellers, his wife, the founder of the Not- 
tingham Free (now High) School. The collection 
includes the letters of administration of Sir Isaac 
Newton. 

JOHN POTTER BRISCOE, F.R.H.S., &c., 
Principal Librarian. 



DUCKS AND DRAKES. I little thought that the 
innocent amusement which, as a child, I used to 
call " ducks and drakes," could boast, as a game, 
of so respectable an antiquity as I had lately an 
opportunity of ascertaining, having occasion to 
consult a passage in M. Minucii Felicis Octavius. 
In the cool of an autumn evening, he sauntered 
with his companions along the shore at Ostia, re- 
freshed by the gentle breeze, the sand on the beach 
yielding to each gentle tread. After describing 
the picture the sea presented on that occasion, as 
it rolled its curling and yeasty waves on the shore, 
with all the accuracy of a marine painter, they 
arrive at a place where the ships were drawn up 
high and dry on the shore, and here they are 
agreeably surprised by witnessing the boys playing 
at what used to be called ducks and drakes. *The 
following description is so natural that its beauty 
would be lost by any attempt at a translation : 

" Is lusus est tesfcam teretem, jactatione fluctuum levi- 
gatam, legere de litore; earn testam piano situ di^itis 
comprehensam, inclinem ipsum, atque humilem, quantum 
potest, super undas inrotare ; ut illud jaculum vel dorsum 
maris raderet. vel enataret, dum leni impetu labitur; 
vel, summis fluctibus tonsis, emicaret, emergeret, dum 
assSduo saltu sublevatur. Is se in pueris victorem fere- 
bat, cujus testa et procurreret longius et frequentius 
exsiliret." 

This childish game was called by the Greeks 
'ETToo-rpa/acr/ios, and is thus described by Julius 
Pollux, lib. ix. cap. vii. 119 (edit. Hems., fol., 
Amst., 1706): 

*O Se 7ro<TTaKicrj,os, ocrrpaKov rwv BaXarri^v 



r a ev rrj 



avrov ra Trpo rov Kara8vva.i 

VTTep TO v8(0p CTn-SpO/O,?} ; K ^fj 

TWV aA/xaTwv 7} vt/c?; TW J3d\\ovn. 

In a note on the above passage, in this edition, 

is the following from Eustathius, ad II 2. : 



Ccu 6 7ro(TTpaKia-/xo' cfSos Se oiVos 
Ka^' lii/, c/>acriv, ocrTpa/cia Tr/XaTea ' 



_ .. <wv.v"w V py 3 /i fj\sis^. v i jn/ KOtTt Tfl^ t/ityju,|> 

TOTJ vypov, Kal tTrirpsxovra. evtori 7roA> cVic 



drovijo-avra Suajcrt Kara $a/Vao-o-?}s, 

TTOtOVVrat, TTpoVoi/'il'. 

In the edition of Minucius Felix from which I 
have quoted (Ouzelius, Lug. Bat., 1672, 8vo.) there 
is an interesting engraving before the title, repre- 
senting the three persons who carry on the dia- 
logue. The figure in the centre is Minucius Felix, 
who sits as the judge ; the cause of the controversy 
is Qecilius, a heathen, who is rebuked by Octavius, 
a Christian, because, meeting with an effigy of 
Serapis (who is represented in the background of 
the picture), he seemed to pay respect to it " ut 
vulgus superstitiosus solet, manum ori admovens, 
osculum labiis pressit." At the left-hand side of 
the engraving may be seen some boys playing 
at ducks and drakes, and the smooth pebbles 
glancing over the surface of the water. R. C. 

Cork. 

SILENT H. A funny story was told me of a 
chimney-sweep who had to letter some flues in a 
large house, in order that they might be easily 
distinguished from each other. When his work 
was done, he called his master and said, " Now, 
sir, I 've put D for the dining-room, N for the 
nursery, and A for the 'all." But this man was 
only consistent in his error. He never pronounced 
his 7t's, and so he refrained from writing them. 
The literary aristocracy of the country are not so. 
They acknowledge h in the orthography of several 
words, whilst they ignore it in their pronunciation. 
I have never anywhere seen a satisfactory expla- 
nation of this phenomenon ; but perhaps the fol- 
lowing solution may be sufficient. It may be laid 
down as a general rule that, whilst gutturals abound 
in Northern dialects, they wither away and vanish 
in the South ; and therefore it is, a priori, probable 
that if a word were coined in Northern regions, 
and imported into some Southern tongue, it would 
lose almost entirely any gutturals that it might 
possess. It would, indeed, be very interesting if 
some who have more time and ability than myself 
would discover what proportion of words in Eng- 
lish with initial h silent come originally from 
Northern languages ; because if this be not a satis- 
factory answer to my question, I do not see what 
reply can be given. I know that in England, at 
any rate, the aspirate is recognized increasingly as 
one proceeds north ; and I should think we might 
argue from our own country to Europe as a whole, 
generally speaking. W. H. 

Hatfield Hall, Durham. 

BEER, the cervisia of former days, is no longer 
:he drink of Northern nations only. It is con- 
sumed all over the South as well. Italy has her 
lirrarie, and Spain her cervecerias, and Egypt 
Drews her own beer now as in the days of Hero- 
dotus. But this was not the case in the seven- 
;eenth century ; and an idea may be formed of 



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the aversion with which Northern drinks were 
regarded by the Italians of that day from the 
following lines of Francesco Eedi : 
" CM la squallida cervogia 

Alle labra sue congiugne 

Presto niuore, o rado giugne 

All' eta vecchia e barbogia. 

Beva il aidro d'Inghilterra 

Chi vuol gir presto sotterra : 

Chi vuol gir presto alia morte, 

Le bevande usi del Xorte." 

Bacco in Toscana, ditiraitibo. 

That beer was held in no higher honour in France 
in the fifteenth century we find in a song, written 
against the English during the siege of Pontoise 
(1441), and given by the chronicler Jean Chartier. 
I subjoin the first couplet : 

" Entre vous, Anglois et Norman?, 

Estans leans, dedans Pontoise, 

Fuyez vous en, prenez les champs, 

Oubliez la riviere d'Oise, 

Et retournez a la cervoise 

De quoy vous estea tous nourris." 

As for the Normans, they thought very differently 
in the thirteenth century, and the British Museum 
possesses a manuscript of a song dating from that 
period, and called Letabundus, wherein we find : 

" Or hi parra 
La cerveyse vos chantera : 

Alleluia. 

Qui que aukes en beyt, 

Si tel seyt comme estre doit : 

Kes miranda." 

JULES CAMUS. 
Padova. 

THE SCHOOLBOY TO THE FORE. One winter in 
ir.y school days, during the Christmas holidays, I 
read as usual the prologue and epilogue to the 
"Westminster play" the Andria that year, if 
I remember rightly. A line in the epilogue 
pleased me greatly, running " composite pede," 
and having the true poetic ring. I therefore com- 
mitted it to memory, for use upon occasion. The 
line was 

"Qua? 

Ille Syracosius protulit arte senex." 
In the next half-year a thesis gave me the desired 
opportunity, and I produced my treasure as a 
geiu in my copy of verses. I showed them up to 
Arthur Meyrick. He had a habit of nodding his 
hear! and compressing his lips, like the Duke of 
\\ ellington, when anything pleased or tickled him. 
He gave three nods as he read the line ; read it 
twice over with the gusto of an alderman 
over his turtle, and gave me the *a8os which I 
expected and the verse deserved. Many years after- 
wards I found the line in an old classic-I think 

audian. Westminster had " cribbed " it from 
the old classic, and I had " cribbed " it from West- 
minster. " Crib for ever ! " 

w ... HERBERT EANDOLPH. 

Worthing. 



BRIDGES'S " NORTHAMPTONSHIRE." On a 
blank leaf of the first volume of a copy of this 
work now before me is the following note, 
written, apparently, at the close of the last century, 
by the then owner of the book : 

"Mr. Bridges was of Barton Segrave, son of John 
Bridges, Esq., of the same place, who was son of Colonel 
John Bridges, of Alcester, in Warwickshire. The anti- 
quary was born at Binfield, co. Berks, about 1666, being 
fifty-eight years of age at his death in 1724. He was 
bred to the law, which, however, he never much followed 
as a profession, being solicitor, and afterwards com- 
missioner of the customs and cashier of excise. He 
began his collections for this work in 1719, and expended 
several thousand pounds in transcripts from publick 
offices, &c. He left them as an heirloom to his brother 
William of the Stamp Office, who consigned them to one 
Gibbons, a London bookseller. This person engaged 
Sam. Jebb, M.D., of Stamford, to compile a history from 
them ; and it was begun to be published in numbers, of 
which six or seven appeared ; after which, on the bank- 
ruptcy of Gibbons, the work was discontinued, but the 
collections remained with Dr. Jebb. At length the 
gentry of Northamptonshire took up the business, the 
claims of Dr. Jebb were liquidated by William Cart- 
wright, Esq., M.P., and the MSS. put into the hands of 
a committee, who employed Mr. Whalley.* He enlarged 
the plan by the introduction of biographical anecdotes, 
but after the compilation was completed, and much of it 
printed, it still lay dormant for many years. This first 
vol., however, appeared in 1762, part of the second in 
17(59, and in 1779 the remainder was announced for 
publication. But it did not come out till 1791." 

THOMAS NORTH. 

The Bank, Leicester. 

READING THE NICENE CREED. A very common 
mistake is made by clergymen, who read, " The 
Lord-and-giver of life," instead of " The Lord, and 
Giver- of-life," which is the translation of the Greek 
original TO Ki'piov xal {(.ooiroiov. A popular 
hymn has, " Thou, of life the Lord and giver.' 7 
Another reading admits of doubt, but I consider 
it erroneous. I have heard a very high dignitary 
say emphatically, " God of God, light of light, very 
God of very God . . . ." I should prefer " God of 
God ; . . . . begotten ; not made," connecting Beov 
e/c 0eou .... with yevvr]6evTa. S. T. P. 

P.S. I think, too, the words "with glory" 
ought to be read parenthetically, so as to be 
separated from " again." 

SWIFT'S METAPHORS. Mr. Forster, in his Life 
of Swift, i. p. 97, quotes Johnson as saying of 
Swift, " The sly dog never ventures at a metaphor." 
When and where is this saying of Johnson re- 
corded? In his life of Swift, Johnson says of 
him (Murphy's ed., 1792, xi. p. 38), " That he has 
in his works no metaphor, as has been said, is not 
true." Johnson had always a strong prejudice 
against Swift, but the term " sly dog " as applied 
to the Dean is hardly " Johnsonian." 

EDWARD SOLLY. 



* " The Rev. Peter Whalley, late Fellow of St. John's 
College, Oxford." 



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[We must request correspondents desiring information 
on family matters of only private interest, to affix thei 
names a-nd addresses to their queries, in order that th 
answers may be addressed to them direct.] 

"WHO WAS SWINNEY?" (See Dilke's Paper, 
of a Critic, vol. ii. p. 60.) A correspondent from 
Victoria writes to me : 

" When I resided in Pontefract, several years ago, I 
remember in St. Giles's Church in that town a larg 
marble monument inscribed as follows : 

' Consecrated to truth historical. 
Swinney, the brave, the virtuous, and the just, 
Hath mixed his ashes with their native dust. 
Ere manhood's honors dawn'd upon his face, 
He prov'd his arms against the Spanish race. 
Wade, Stanhope, Mordaunt, Carpenter, Dalzell, 
With truth and rapture, if alive, could tell 
How fierce he fought, whilst fighting aught avail'd, 
How sullen yielded when our numbers fail'd. 
From hair-breadth 'scapes and bloody toils reliev'd, 
Many he gave, but ne'er a wound receiv'd. 
He spurned at cowards with becoming pride, 
Laurels his aim, and providence his guide. 
In peace neglected and reduc'd, he sped 
"Without one murmur to his homely shed. 
Called forth, at last, by warlike George to view, 
He drew his broad sword, and he used it too ; 
His dauntless heart at Dettingen was try'd. 
When Brunswick glow'd with William at his side, 
Grown old, yet vig'rous, in his country's cause, 
The king dismissed him with a loud applause ; 
But soon as traytors sought his master's right, 
And English troops for once forgot to fight ; 
Soon as his bleeding son was pris'ner made, 
And fools were sheltered by their white cockade, 
He left his vine, his fig-tree, and his wife, 
And rushed impetuous to the doubtful strife. 
The dirk and target grac'd his joyous hall, 
Crown'd by his sword, cuirass, and iron cawl. 
Should busy mortals ask, " How much he gave 
To his five children " ere he sought the grave : 
Fortunes he gave, whilst living, to his sons 
And to his daughters, blessed portions 
Portions ! the best that children can receive, 
Fortunes ! the best that best of men can give. 
He form'd their minds to every gospel grace 
(His better-self assistant in her place). 
When ripening years demanded other cares, 
Nor cost nor pains for learned guides he spares. 
Bless, reader, bless with thy reluctant tears 
This Christian soldier in the vale of years. 
Lov'd by his comrades, by his troop rever'd ; 
By good men courted, by the wicked fear'd ; 
If honour, truth, and justice can ensure 
Bliss to his soul, in bliss he lives secure.' 
" Major Matthew Swinney was born in the kingdom 
of Ireland in the year of our Lord 1684. He married 
Mary, eldest daughter of Rob. Kitchinman, Esq., by 
whom he had issue three sons and two daughters, all his 
survivors. He died March 3, 1766, aged eighty-two years, 
and is interred within the choir of the old church. The 
epitaph inscribed upon this marble, being meant to con- 
vey information and instruction to the unlearned reader, 
was composed in the English tongue, and the monument 
itself was raised at the joint motion of the deceased's 
three sons George, Sidney, and Poladen." 

Was this the Sydney Swinney referred to by 



Woodfall? It certainly seems consistent that a 
stout old warrior like the Major should have a son 
an army chaplain. Further information could 
doubtless be obtained at Pontefract. The Kit- 
chinmans were mayors of that place in the reigns 
of Geo. I., II., and III., and the name of George 
Swinney occurs as mayor in 1760. C. V. 

"COMING THROUGH THE RYE." In both the 
English and American editions cf the poems of 
Burns, there is a note preceding the song " Coming 
through the rye," which seems to indicate that it 
is not an original work of the poet, but an amended 
version of an old song. I have also heard it said, 
and from the language of the song am disposed to 
believe the report to be true, that by " rye " is 
meant, not, as is generally supposed in America, 
a grain field, but a rivulet in Ayrshire named Rye. 
Cannot some one of your correspondents throw 
light on these points 1 SCOTO-AMERICUS. 

OLD ENGRAVING OF DAWSON OF SEDBERGH. A 
friend of mine showed me recently a large mezzo- 
tint engraving of this celebrity, who was, I believe, 
an eminent schoolmaster and mathematician at 
the end of the last and at the beginning of the 
present century, at Sedbergh, in Yorkshire. The 
engraving, which had been purchased at the sale 
of Professor Sedgwick, who had been an old pupil 
of Dawson's at Sedbergh, represents him as stand- 
ing, and pointing with his finger to an open book, 
over which a grey-headed man in a sitting posture 
is bending, the back of whose head is depicted. 
The countenance of Dawson exhibits both intellect 
nd benevolence of the highest order ; and in the 
chancel of the church at Sedbergh, of which place 
tie was a native, is a bust of him. Gunning, in his 
Reminiscences of Cambridge, speaks of Dawson as 
'one whose character at that time (i.e. circa 
1786) stood very high as a teacher of mathematics, 
and many North-countrymen were amongst his 
ils" (second edition, vol. ii. p. 211). He was 
presumably educated at St. John's College, Cam- 
bridge, as the Mastership of Sedbergh School is in 
the gift of that College ; but a search for his name 
amongst the Mathematical Triposes in the Cam- 
bridge University Calendar has proved fruitless. 

1. Is there any memoir in existence of Dawson? 

2. Is the name of the engraver of the rnezzo- 
int known ? 

3. Is it known who is represented by the seated 
figure in the engraving 1 

JOHN PICKFORD, M.A. 
Xewbourne Rectory, Woodbridge. 

S. PROUT. In the year 1821 was published, by 
Akerman, a book of lithograph views, principally 
of buildings. I cannot give the title. The views 
were drawn on the stone by Prout ; they are sub- 
cribed " S. Prout del 1 ," with the name of the 
)lace, and some, but not all, have upon the draw- 



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ing his monogram. I have always understood 
that the lithographs were from original drawings 
by Front, but have now some reason to doubt 
this; for, upon an evidently contemporaneous 
water-colour drawing, in my possession, of Mickle- 
gate Bar at York, the subject of one of the litho- 
graph*, with which it agrees in every stroke, I 
have lately discovered the signature " J. M. W. 
Turner." * I have had the drawing some years, 
and have always shown it as a Prout, but it has 
been remarked by many that it is in parts very 
like Turner's work. The lithograph has neither 
the signature of Turner nor the monogram of 
Prout, I conclude with the query, Were the 
lithographs from the drawings of various artists ? 
The title-page of the book, which I have been 
unable to meet with, might throw some light on 
this. A. F. B. 

EDGAR ALLAN POE. 

"The Utica Olserrtr mention^, as a fact which has 
escaped the notice of all his biographers, that Edgar 
Allan Poe was the grandson of Benedict Arnold. His 
mother, who was known before her marriage as Eliza- 
beth Arnold, an English actress, was the natural daugh- 
ter of the traitor. This statement rests on the concurrent 
testimony of a number of old actors who knew Elizabeth 
Arnold well. Foe himself alluded to the matter occa- 
sionaily in the company of those who knew this chapter 
in his family history." 

Can any of the readers of " N. & Q." verify this 1 

J. BRANDER MATTHEWS. 
Lotos Club, Xew York. 

PREDICTION OF THE CRIMEAN WAR. I should 
be glad to ascertain the origin of the following 
linos, which passed current as a prediction of the 
Crimean war, and which I copied from the news- 
papers of that time, but unfortunately without 
making any further note thereof : 

" Tria miranda ! 
Omnes Christian! arma sument contra Turcam 

Prseter Chriatianissimum. 
Omncs lilii ecclesias helium contra Turcam parant 

Prater Primogenitum. 
Omnia animalia laudant Deum ob partam de Turcis 

victoriam, 
Pruiter Gallum." 

JAMES T. PRESLEY. 

" COMIIENTARIE UPON THE EriSTLE TO THE 

<TALATIANS."-~ Can you give me any information 

<> the author of this book, in my possession ? 

b has lost its title-page. It purports to have 

it ten about forty years after the introduc- 

tion of Protestantism into this country Ps xci 13 

is translated, " They that trust in God shalVwalke 

upon uie Lyon and Basiliske." L. A. SIMON. 

PRICIIIT-GTTRII, 120 MILES X. FROM GOA \ND 
THE ABBOT PERICHETTI. 



V AI - .- dans I'Europe chrctienne " par 

Abbi Perichetti; (en Italien) " Mernorie de ViagLn per 
lEuropa cnristiana," dell' Abbate G. B. Perichetto! 



Naples, 1685. 5 vol. in-12. Bibliotheque Universelle des 
Voyages, vol. i. p. 285. 

Was the family of the Abbe Perichetti connected 
in any way with India ; or can the identity of the 
two names be otherwise accounted for 1 E. 

Starcross, near Exeter. 

EGBERT BROWN. I have a pamphlet of eight 
pages, Verses to the Memory of a Brother, without 
author's name, place or name of printer, or date, 
but a note on p. 1 indicates the deceased to have 
been "Mr. E. Brown, who died Jan. 22, 1784, at 
the age of twenty-five." It is rather a wide ques- 
ion asking for a Brown of our own day, much 
more so for one of the last century, with only the 
additional key to his identity that "he expected 
soon to accompany a young gentleman on his 
travels." The poem is an affecting one, and my 
brothers may, perhaps, be recognized by these 
lines : 

" Where now that sweet communion of designs, 
His pencil's figures and my muse's lines." 

J. 0. 

" CONCERNING SNAKES IN ICELAND. There are 
no snakes in Iceland." Will some learned person 
ive the correct form and origin of this celebrated 
brief chapter of Icelandic natural history ? The 
form in which it is commonly quoted is something 
like the above. In a leader in the Standard the 
writer gave it to Eric Pontoppidan ; but Southey, 
in the Letters to Butler (p. 57), speaks of the 
chapter concerning owls in Neil florrebow's Na- 
tural History ; and lastly, in the new quarterly, 
Mind (just published), the Eector of Lincoln Col- 
lege informs us that, in the words of the famous 
chapter of Olaus Magnus, there is no philosophy 
at Oxford. C. F. S. WARREN, M.A. 

Bexhill. 

" THE PILGRIMAGE OF PRINCES." I have a 
copy of this work, printed in black letter and 
dedicated to " the right worshipful and his singular 
good M. Maister Christofor Hatton, Esquier," by 
Ludowicke Lloide. Can any one inform me as to 
the author, and whether the book is of anv value ? 

N. P. 

" WEATHER- HOLES." Among the various 
weather-signs occurring in the first scene of 
Schiller's Wilhelm Tell we find mentioned, as a 
prognostic of the impending change of the weather, 
the circumstance, Und halt her blast es aus dem 
Wetterloch, which omen is based on the following 
passage in Scheuchzer's Naturgeschichte (vol. iv. 
p. 122, & c .) : 

" There are certain weather-holes or wind-holes, i.e. 
caverns and clefts which stand to the inhabitants of the 
Alps instead of barometers. When the wind blows cold 
from them the weather may be expected fine," &c. 

Now, I have been told by a literary friend of 
mine that he believed he had heard of a similar 



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" wind-hole " or " weather-hole " existing nea 
a gap in the hills of Malvern called the " Wytche.' 
Could any of your learned correspondents give rat 
some exact and definite information on the subjec 
in question? I should certainly consider it a grea 
literary favour. C. A. BUCHHEIM. 

King's College, London. 

BISHOP JEWEL'S " SEVEN GODLEY SERMONS,' 
1607. In the Works of Bishop Jewel, publishec 
by the Parker Society, vol. ii. p. 1046, is a state- 
ment to the effect that the editor had never been 
able to meet with the small 8vo. 1607 origina 
edition of Seven Godly and Learned Sermons 
preached by John Juel, Bishop of Salisburie, never 
before Imprinted, but had republished them from 
the two folios of 1609 and 1611. As I have an 
imperfect copy of this rare little volume, I shall be 
much obliged if any one can inform me where 
another copy is preserved, so that I can collate my 
own with it. The title-page and first five or six 
leaves of the epistle are missing, but the seven 
sermons are complete. The epistle is signed, 
"Your G[races] most bounden at com. I. K" 
Who was I. K. ? There is in this epistle the use 
of the phrase, " Gathered up in hugger mugger, or 
buried in obliuion," which is worth making a note 
of. I presume there is no copy of this volume 
of sermons in the British Museum, Bodleian or 
Cambridge Libraries, otherwise the editor of 
Bishop Jewel's works would have made use of it. 

J. P. EARWAKER. 
Alderley Edge, Cheshire. 

"THE ANCIENT MARINER." Will any reader of 
" N. & Q." kindly furnish me with a copy of the 
stanza (the eleventh of the third part) excluded 
by Coleridge from the Ancient Mariner ? The 
stanza, says Mr. Swinburne, in his essay on Cole- 
ridge, describes the Death-mate of the Spectre- 
woman, "his bones foul with leprous scurf and 
green corruption of the grave, in contrast to the 
red lips and yellow locks of the fearfuller night- 
mare Life-in-death." ALFRED JEWELL. 

PILE FAMILY OF BRAY, BERKS. Where did 
this family come from 1 The name first occurs in 
the parish register books in 1735, but I am of 
opinion they were settled there some time previous 
to that date. There were also at that time others 
living at Windsor and Eton, but they do not ap- 
pear to have been connected. I find no pedigree 
of this particular family. Any information re- 
specting their history previous to the date men- 
tioned, or hints for searching, will be valued. 

L. J. A. PILE. 

PASTORAL STAFF AT DOL, IN BRITTANY. In 
visiting the former cathedral at Dol last summer, 
I observed that a gigantic gilded pastoral staff 
was placed erect behind the high altar of this most 



interesting church. On inquiry I found that my 
supposition, that this was so placed as a memorial 
of the time when Dol was a bishopric, and the 
church a cathedral, was correct. Can any of the 
readers of " N. & Q." say if they have observed 
instances of a similar custom elsewhere ? In the 
course of my wanderings I have been in churches 
which have lost the cathedral dignity, but have 
never noticed such an indication that they once 
it. J. WOODWARD. 



" THE CURSE OF KIRKSTALL ABBEY." Can 
you give me an abstract of the legend of the 
" Curse of Kirkstall Abbey," or tell me where I 
can find it ? Can you also explain the meaning of 
the words, " Sire, si come ce fut, voir ayez pitie 
de nous " ? They occur at the end of every peti- 
tion in a MS. Prayer Book of the thirteenth 
century. WILFRID OF GALWAY. 

"CANNON TO RIGHT OF THEM, CANNON TO 
LEFT OF THEM," &c. Was this the position 
of the Russian artillery? If so, each side must 
have been in danger from its own comrades. 
Faulconbridge speaks of such a blunder : 
" prudent discipline ! From north to south : 
Austria and France shoot in each other's mouth." 
GEORGE ELLIS. 
St. John's Wood. 

+ EYECHARDE BENETLEY, BELL-FOVNDDER. 
On the third bell of Seaton Church, Eutland, is 
}his name, in large Gothic capital letters, placed 
sack wards. When and where did he live ? Is his 
name known to any bell-hunting correspondent ? 

THOMAS NORTH. 

The Bank, Leicester. 

THE COURT OF HIGH COMMISSION FOR CAUSES 
ECCLESIASTICAL. Where are the Court records 
preserved ? ANON. 

I. O. U. When did this phonetic mode of 
writing oneself down a debtor first become general? 

ST. SWITHIN. 



GRIMM'S LAW. 
(5** S. iv. 449, 513.) 

The replies of PROF. ATTWELL and MR. FENTON 
o the inquiry of T. C. U. on this subject are in 
he main correct, but they require a little further 
xplanation to make them complete. The table 
iven by PROF. ATTWELL principally from Max 
VI tiller is unnecessarily complicated. Grimm's 
Anginal form, as given in vol. i. p. 584 of his 
Deutsche Grammatik, is much simpler, and em- 
'races all which it is really necessary to know, 
t is as follows : 



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LABIALS. DENTALS. GUTTURALS. 

Greek Goth. Old Oer. Greek. Goth. Old Ger. Greek. Goth. Old I Ger. 
P ' F B(V) T TH D K H G 
B P F D T Z G K CH 

F B P TH D T CH G K 
The Greek division includes the Sanskrit, Latin, 
and their derivatives. The Gothic includes the 
Low German, English, and Norse. The High 
German includes none but its own dialects. 

If we further note that the Celtic and Slavonic 
languages generally follow the Greek division in 
thefr consonantal permutations, we shall have a 
tolerably comprehensive view of the relations of 
the Aryan tongues in this single aspect. 

It is possible, however, to simplify the matter 
still more. The division, it will be seen, is a tri- 
partite one, and the changes always follow in the 
same order tenuis, aspirate, medial if we take 
them in the sequence of Greek, Gothic, Old Ger- 
man. If we then draw two triangles thus 
Tenuis. Greek. 





Medial. Aspirate. O.H.G. Gothic, 

and fix the one over the other, so that it can turn 
by a pin in the centre, if the Greek point, which 
now corresponds with the tenuis, be turned to the 
aspirate, the Gothic will stand at the medial, and 
the Old High German at the tenuis, and so with 
the others. 

I have a further word to say in reference to the 
eight columns of illustrations given by PROF. ATT- 
WELL. Some of the instances are incorrect, and 
others are understated in consequence of not 
giving the earliest forms of the words. 

In col. 1 kirsha is given as Sanskrit for horn. 
It may be my misfortune, but I have not met with 
the word. It is not to be found in the dictionaries 
of Bopp, Benfey, Wilson, or Williams. The usual 
word for horn is "s'ririgam." This column of words 
shows that Grimm's law is not without exceptions. 
In the guttural permutations the Gothic h usually 
replaces the classical tenuis k, and this is common 
both to the High and Low German dialects. 

In col. 2 Sanskrit jiiti is given as the equivalent 
for Latin gen-us, &c. As it stands without ex- 
planation, this would seem an exception to Grimm's 
law, as j is not a guttural but a palatal letter. 
Properly ^ understood, however, it affords strong 
confirmation to the principle. Jdti is a derivative 
from jdn, to beget, which is only a degraded form 
of the original Aryan root gan (see Fick, sub voc.). 
This restores the illustration to its proper place in 
the series. Kum, I presume, is a mistake for 
Gothic kuni. Kind is given as the High German 
equivalent, which, unexplained, would appear to 



militate against the law it is intended to illustrate. 
The fact is, in this case the modern High German 
k is a corruption of the original aspirate ch. This 
very word will be found in the form of chunni in 
the High German or Theotisc of the eighth cen- 
tury.* 

In col. 3 High German gestern seems to contra- 
vene Grimm's law, which would require a tenuis 
instead of a medial for the initial. Turning to 
our Old High German authorities, we find the 
original form of gestern to be kesttrn, in which 
shape it will be found in MSS. both of the eighth 
and eleventh centuries. f Our yesterday is only a 
corruption of A.-S. gestran-dceg, corresponding to 
Gothic gistra. 

Col. 4 provides no Greek equivalent for Sanskrit 
tan-u. This will be found in raVoj, revos, con- 
veying the idea of thinness by stretching out. 
There must be some mistake about Gothic dunni. 
There is no such word in Gabelenz and Lrebe, nor 
in Mr. Skeat'a useful glossary. If there were, it 
would contradict entirely the usual application of 
Grimm's law. The corresponding word in Gothic 
is thinnan, exactly correlative with our word thin, 
which precisely fulfils the conditions required. 

Col. 5 is quite correct in the instances adduced. 

Col. 6 may lead to error. Greek thura and 
High German thur are o much alike in appearance 
that it might naturally be supposed the aspirated 
initial th was common to both. It is not so, how- 
ever. How it came about I will not stop to in- 
quire, but the fact is, such High German words as 
thur, thier, thai, are quite modern in their present 
form. They were originally spelt tor, tura, &c., 
thus taking their place with the initial tenuis as 
required by Grimm's law. In the case of Sanskrit 
dwar, Gothic daur, English door, there is an ano- 
maly, which is cleared up when we find that the 
original Aryan form was dhvar-a (see Fick), which 
restores the aspirate initial, and places the word 
side by side with its Greek and Latin sisters. 

Col. 7 is correct, with this remark, that in the 
early Aryan dialects the difference between the 
sound of r and I appears to have been slight. 
Sanskrit pur-na=pu\-n&, and by metathesis is 
easily connected with ple-os and ple-nus. 

Col. 8 is liable to the same observation as be- 
fore, that, for want of adopting the early form of 
the High German equivalent, the influence of 
Grimm's law appears much weaker than it really 
is. The modern High German bruder was ori- 
ginally proder, pruodar, as is proved from MSS. 
of the eighth and tenth centuries, thus restoring 
the consistency and historical value of the principle 
laid down. 

PROF. ATTWELL will, I am sure, be glad to find 
that the evidence for the uniformity of Grimm's 

* See Graff, Althochdeutscher Sprachschatz, and Schil- 
ter's Collections of Old High German Documents, passim. 
t See Graff, ut supra. 



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law is in reality much stronger than is set out i 
his tables. J. A. PICTON. 

Sandyknowe, Wavertree. 



the time of Mohammed II., the conqueror of the 
Byzantine Empire (A.D. 1453, A.H. 858). 

"Avantet depuis cette epoque" (A.D. 1453), observes 
Amedee Jaubert, the celebrated Orientalist, my friend 
arid master, " la langue turke, qui est un dialecte du 
tartare, s'est accrue d'un grand nombre d'expressions 
tirees de 1'arabe et du persan, que la religion musulmane, 
lea besoins du commerce et les guerres frequentes des 
Turks en Aeie y ont introduites; et a regu, sans les 
denaturer, tous les mots etrangers destines a representer 

des idees nouvelles d'ou il soit que, pour parler et 

surtout pour ecrire correctement le turk, il est a peu 
prs indispensable d'avoir d'abord pris quelque teiuture 
du persan, et particulierement de 1'arabe. En effet, c'est 
des Arabes que les Turks ont emprunte leurs caracteres 
d'ecriture, leur systeme de numeration, tous les mots qui 
expriment dea idees abstraites, morales ou religieuses, et 
tous ceux qui sont relatifs aux sciences, aux lettres, et 
aux arts; nomenclature tres-etendue. " 

According to Sir William Jones, the Turkish 
consists of ten Arabic or Persian words for one 
originally Scythian (Tatar), but the Arabic greatly 
preponderates, e.g., of thirteen words, seven are 
Arabic and two Persian ; of fourteen words, nine 
Arabic and two Persian. In recapitulating the 
distinctive character of these languages, this ac- 
complished scholar states that 

* The Persian is remarkable for sweetness, the Arabic 
is distinguished for copiousness and strength, and the 
Turkish has an admirable gravity (miram habet gravita- 
tem) the first allures and delights, the second is ener- 
getic, and formed for sublimity, while the third possesses 
jlevation combined with a certain gracefulness and 
Deauty : the Persian, therefore, is fit for joyous and 
amatory subjects, the Arabic for poetry and eloquence, 
and the Turkish for moral writings/'* 

If you ask a Persian the nature of his language, 
will say it is sweet and melodious ; Arabic, he 
would add, is the root, Turkish science, Persian 
sugar; and a native of the upper provinces of India 
would tell you Hindustani is salt. 

" Arabiy asl ast, Turki hunar ast, 
Parsi shakar ast, Hindi namak ast." 

WILLIAM PLATT. 
115, Piccadilly. 

MILTON'S FORESTRY (5 th S. v. 43.) MR. WAL- 
KER might have carried a little farther his remarks 
n defence of Milton. In the quotation, 
" Arched walks of twilight groves, 
And shadows brown that Silvan loves 
Of pine or monumental oak," 
Mr. Menzies creates what confusion there may be 
y omitting the comma after " groves." Milton 
oes not connect the " arched walks," but only 
tie "shadows brown," with the oak and pine, 
objection to " brown " is poor hypercriticisin : 



* "Suatitatem Persica, ubertatem ac vim Arabica, 

nirificam habet Turcica dignitatem : prima allicit atque 

electat, altera sublimius vehitur, et fertur quodammodo 

icitatius, tertia elata est sane, sed non sine aliquu, 

egantia et pulchritudine. Ad lusus igitur et amores 

rmo Persicus, ad poemata et eloquentiam Arabicus, ad 

oralia scripta Turcicus ridetur idoneus." Vol. ii. 

360. 



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compare " hamlets brown " in Collins's Evening. 
Brown is a prevalent twilight colour. Pines and 
oaks will grow together : but Milton's words do 
not imply that they do. He says that Silvan 
loves the brown shadows of pine or oak. If I am 
asked by a tavern waiter what I want for dinner, 
and reply, "Beef or mutton," am I to expect both? 
Not, surely, unless he is a Miltonic critic " No 
waiter, but a Knight Templar." 

I have not read Mr. Keightley on Milton, for I 
prefer poetry to commentary thereon ; and I 
think his ingenious explanation of " monumental" 
does not befit Milton's simplicity, though in cer- 
tain modern poets the idea would be natural 
enough. Long duration, which is the design of a 
monument, is the habit of the oak ; hence monu- 
mental fits the tree perfectly. 

" Exegi monumentum asre perennius," 
says Horace. It seems unnecessary to suggest 
that Milton meant the holm-oak (which doubtless 
he saw in Italy), since our English oak, a far 
nobler tree, attains an immense age. I believe 
Glendower s oak, near Shrewsbury, still puts out 
fresh foliage in the spring a monument of a 
battle fought near five centuries ago. 

If "elm starproof " be not true to nature, then 
am I grossly ignorant of trees. Mr. Menzies 
seems unaware that the elm is a heavy foliaged 
tree ; in many a twilight stroll beneath elms I 
have noted the accuracy of Milton's epithet, which 
has a special beauty because it marks the hour. 
Indeed, in the radiance of a summer noon, I have 
found the elm sunproof. There are elms and 
elms. Botanists catalogue above sixty varieties ; 
doubtless there is a difference between the shadows 
of ulmus parvifolia and iilmus latifolia. 

Forked lightning will strike a tree as Mr. Men- 
xies describes ; but trees growing on a high level 
are frequently struck at the summit by the sheet 
lightning, which passes from cloud to cloud. Mil- 
ton's " singed top " is quite defensible. To assert 
that lightning never singes the top of the oak is 
rather daring. So wide a negative is difficult 
to prove. I have seen trees of several kinds 
singed by lightning in most capricious ways. It 
may perhaps be found that a great poet sometimes 
observes more widely than a professional forester. 
MORTIMER COLLINS. 

Knowl Hill, Berks. 

In the passage quoted from Mr. Menzies's work 
on Forest Trees, &c., it is said, " The elm is one of 
the thinnest foliaged trees of the forest." Is this 
so ? It would ill become one who was born, ana 
has chiefly lived, almost within the sound of Bow 
bells, to set his opinion against that of a person o 
such great tree knowledge as Mr. Menzies ; but 
have frequently heard that the elm is the besi 
tree to afford shelter during a shower, owing to 
the circumstance that the leaves, though small 



ire numerous and remarkably compact. This 
would quite justify Milton in speaking of 

" The shady roof 
Of branching elm starproof." 

T. J. A. 

ABBATIAL ORDINATION (5 th S. iv. 467.) By 
;he second Council of Nice (Actio viii. Canon xiv.), 
leld in the year 787, the power was granted to 
,bbots of conferring minor orders within their 
own monasteries, on the condition, however, that 
they themselves were presbyters. The canon only 
mentions readers, but Martene (De Antiq. Eccles. 
PM., vol. ii. p. 12, fol., 1788, Venet.), in remarking 
upon it, says : 

[ Hanc potestatem hactenus conservarunt abbates 
plurimi, non solum vigore hujus canonis, sed obtentia 
insuper a sede apostolica privilegiis, quibus tonsuram 
minoresque ordines conferendi facultas eis facta est. 
Quse quidem privilegia integra et inviolata permanere 
sanxit synodus Tridentina." 

To this power many abbots still lay claim, not 
only on the authority of the canon, but also on 
alleged grants from the Apostolic See, by which 
they were empowered to give the tonsure, and to 
confer minor orders ; all which privileges were 
secured to them, whole and inviolate, by the 
Council of Trent. He tells us, in addition, that 
an abbot of the Cistercian Order had ampler powers, 
who, with four other abbots of the same order, and 
of the first rank, could ordain deacons and sub- 
deacons ; which privilege, he continues, was 
granted them by Pope "innocent VIIL, in the 
year 1489, in order that they who wished to be- 
come deacons or subdeacons might not be forced 
to seek ordination outside their monastery. 

Nothing is said of mitred abbots, nor does it 
appear that, in matters of this kind, they had 
" powers superior to their less exalted brethren." 
Their superiority was rather of a civil than an 
ecclesiastical kind. They were privileged to sit 
in the House of Peers. According to Martene, 
their origin was later than the council by which 
abbots were empowered to ordain, for he says that 
no mention is made of this in the older pontificals 
(vol. ii. p. 146). EDMUND TEW, M.A. 

" I have done with this subject of mitred abbeys, vrhen 
we have observed that they were called ' abbots general,' 
alias ' abbots sovereign,' as acknowledging in a sort no 
superior, because exempted from the jurisdiction of any 
diocesan, having episcopal power in themselves." Ful- 
ler's C/iurch History, vol. ii. bk. vi. sect. 2 ; Sir H. Spel- 
man in Glossario, verlo " Abbas." 

H. S. 

Abbots can only confer minor orders. Sub- 
deacons, deacons, and priests must be ordained 
by a bishop. (See Bissus, Hierurgia, vol. ii. p. 63.) 

C. J. E. 

G. E. L. was rightly informed respecting the 
above. Abbots have the power of conferring 



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minor, not sacred, orders on their own subjects by 
a dispensation of the Pope. Any priest can confer 
minor orders when dispensed by Rome. 

C. H. P. 

MAJOR FRANCIS PEIRSON (5 th S. v. 67.) A 
correspondent from Jersey inquires whether any 
members of the family of Major Peirson (whom he 
calls Person) are living. He was very young and 
unmarried when he was killed. He left sisters, 
but no brothers. One of these sisters was the 
mother of my late wife, Lady Chelmsford, and of 
her sister. The only members of the Peirson 
family known to me to be living are my children, 
grandchildren, and great-grandchildren, and the 
children and grandchildren of my late sister-in-law. 

CHELMSFORD. 

Eaton Square. 

He was the eldest son of Francis Peirson, Esq., 
of Lowthorp, co. York, by Sarah, daughter and 
co-heiress of John Cogdell of Beverley. They had 
three sons, none of whom left issue, and five sur- 
viving daughters. 1. Sarah, married Timothy 
Francillon. 2. Frances, married Win. Tinling, 
Esq. Her eldest daughter, Anna Maria, married, 
in 1822, Frederic Thesiger, Esq., created Baron 
Chelmsford, 1858 ; two other daughters. 3. 
Margaret, married Rev. George Marwood ; had 
issue. 4. Mary, married Rev. C. Webber, after- 
wards Archdeacon of Chichester ; had issue. 5. 
Diana, married Arthur Anstey, Esq. THUS. ^ 

In the special loan exhibition of portrait minia- 
tures, held at the South Kensington Museum in 
1865, a collection of miniatures of Major Peirson, 
and several members of his family, was lent by 
Major Newbery (see catalogue, p. 43). M. M. 

EPITAPH IN CASHEL CATHEDRAL (5 th S. v. 27.) 
Harris, in his edition of Ware's Bishops, p. 483, 
gives some interesting details about Miler Ma- 
gragh, alias MacCragh. He was a special favourite 
of Queen Elizabeth, who heaped promotions upon 
him. In addition to Cashel, he held by commen- 
dam the sees of Lismore and Waterford, which 
he resigned in 1607 for those of Killala and 
Achonry ; and, besides the bishoprics, there were 
conveyed to him in the same manner the vicarage 
of Killmacallan, and the rectory Infra duos ponies 
in the diocese of Elphin ; the rectories of Castle 
Connor and Skrine, in the diocese of Killala ; and 
the prebend of Dougherne, with the rectory of 
Kilorhin, in the diocese of Achonry. He died in 
Dec., 1622, in the one hundreth year of his age. 
The monument which he erected for himself in the 
cathedral, opposite that of Edmund Butler, is thus 
described : 

"It ia placed on a high basis on the south side of the 
choir, between the episcopal throne and the altar ; on 
which is his effigies cut in stone in high relief ; his mitre 
on his head, and his pastoral staff in his hand : on one 



side of the head is carved the image of an angel ; as the 
like was once on the other side, but is now (1739) de- 
faced. Above his head are his arms ; and at his feet 
the image of Christ on the Cross, on the top whereof is 
inscribed I. X.R.I. At his right elbow is the image of St. 
Patrick slightly engraved, with his pastoral staff and 
mitre, on the one side S. on the other P. Underneath, 
on the verge of the monument, is cut the name of the 
architect, ' Patricius Kearin fecerat illud opus.' " 

Then follows the Latin epitaph composed by 
himself, with the reading sed instead of nee, in the 
ninth line, as already noticed, and is rendered into 
English thus : 
" Patrick, the glory of our iale and gown, 

First sat a bishop in the see of Down ; 

I wish that I, succeeding him in place 

As bishop, had an equal share of grace. 

I served thee, England, fifty years in jars, 

And pleased thy princes in the midst of war ; 

Here where I 'm placed I 'm not ; and thus the case is 

I 'm not in both, yet am in both the places. 

" The Romanists of that country have a tradition that 
he died a Papist, and that though in appearance he was 
buried in the cathedral, yet that he had given private 
orders for depositing his body elsewhere ; to which they 
say the two last lines of the epitaph allude. But, al- 
though he was no good man, and had impoverished hia 
see by stripping it of much of its ancient estate, yet I 
do not find any room to call his sincerity, as to his re- 
ligious profession, in question, living or dying. These 
lines rather seem to hint at the separate existence of the 
soul and body." 

B. E. N. 

" NON EST VILE CORPUS," &C. (5 th S. IV. 513.) 

The anecdote is told of the learned Mark Anthony 
Muretus, and is thus related by Dr. Farrar (The 
Witness of History to Christ, p. 153) : 

"When travelling in the disguise of a beggar, the 
scholar Muretus had fallen sick in the hands of strange 
physicians ; they said jestingly to one another, ' Fiat 
experimentum in corpore vili.' ' Vilemne animam. 
appellas,' he indignantly exclaimed to his astonished 
auditors : ' Vilemne animam appellas pro qua Christus 
non dedignatus est mori 1 ' " 

In the Life of Muretus, by Benci and Lazeri, 
the accuracy of this anecdote has been called in 
question. The facts will probably be found stated 
in the Life prefixed to Kuhnkenius's edition of the 
Opera Omnia, 1789, a copy of which, together 
with Muretus's Epistolce, is in the Chetham 
Library. 

Your correspondent is no doubt familiar with 
an anecdote of Archbishop Whately turning on 
the same word "vile," which, in our Bibles, 
St. James ii. 2 and Phil. iii. 21, is the synonym of 
lowly. I quote the anecdote from the Kev. T. L. 
0. Davies's recent admirable book, entitled Bible 
English : Chapters on Old and Disused Expressions 
in the Authorized Version, &c., 1875 (p. 178) : 

"'Our vile body' (Phil. iii. 21) should be rendered 
'the body of our humiliation' I TO awp.a rr;gra7rtiv<u<Taif 
77/iwv]. When Archbishop Whately was dying, one of 
his chaplains wa reading this chapter to him in the 
English version. When he came to this passage the 
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words.' The chaplain then substituted the above more 
literal translation, and the dying prelate observed, ' That 
is right; nothing that He made is vile.' No doubt 
' vile ' is not iu this place a good representation of the 
original, yet, as we have shown, it did not once imply 
of necessity such utter worthlessness as it does now." 
JOHN E. BAILEY. 

THE PRINCESS SOBIESKA (5 th S. v. 9, 38.) Mr. 
Ewald, in. the first vol. of his Life and Times of 
Prince Charles Stuart (Chapman & Hall, 1875), 
gives an account of the escape of the Princess, the 
details of which vary considerably from those men- 
tioned by Mr. Haggard, who states that she was 
disguised in " a male habit." Mr. Ewald's account 
is probably the more correct one, as lie refers to 
authorities. 

Being on the subject of the Stuart family, I 
would wish to call attention to the concluding 
passage of Mr. Ewald's work : 

" Thirty-one years after the death of the Prince, 
George the Fourth, then Prince Regent, caused a stately 
monument, from the chisel of Canova, to be erected 
under the dome of St. Peter's at Rome. On a bas-relief, 
in wlnte marble, are represented the likenesses of James, 
Charles, and Henry, with this inscription : 

JACOBO III., JACOB! II., MAGN. BRIT. REGIS FILIO, 

CAROLO EDOARDO ET H ENRICO, DECANO 

PATRVM CARDINALIVM, JACOBI III. FILIIS, 

REGIAE STIRPIS STVARDIAE POSTREMIS 

ANNO MDCCCXIX. 
BEATI MORTVI QVI IX DOMINO MORIVNTVK." 

The inscription must, of course, be well known. 
But has it ever occurred to any one to inquire 
how it was that James, the Old Pretender, or the 
Chevalier St. George, is twice mentioned therein 
as James III. ? He could have had that title only 
as King of Great Britain ; and if he possessed that 
title rightfully, the Prince Regent would never 
have been George IV. T. J. A., olim CCC.X.I. 

[Mr. Ewald's account of the Princess Sobieska's 
escape is based upon the narrative which is attributed to 
Wogan who was one of the chief agents. According to 
the latter, the Princess used only a cloak and hood 
/edler (1739) says she fled in disguise, but does not state 
>f what it consisted "Jedoch, da man vermeynte sie am 
gewisseeten zu haben, entflohe sie in verstellter Kleidunjr " 
With regard to Canova'e stately monument bearin- the 
above inscription, Lord Mahon (Earl Stanhope), quoted 
in Murray's llandlook of Rome, believes " it was 
erected chiefly at the expense of the House of Hanover. 
Handlook 8tate * that the cost was 



mid 

rom te privy purse of George IV., who certainly 

where ' 1*1^ " t( i the inscri l>tion. In the crypt, 
where James III." and his sons, Charles Edward and 



"OLD KING COLE" (5th S . iv . 67, 234.)-Alban 
Butler writes, L^fe of St. Helen, Empress (Aug. 

ivs L H^Pn' 6 T 8t di | i e ent searcher of our antiquities, 



the King Coe'l who first built the walls round the city 
of Colchester, and beautified it so much that it derives 
from him its name. That town has for several ages 
boasted that it gave birth to the great empress, and the 
inhabitants, to testify their veneration for her memory, 
take for the arms of the town, in remembrance of the 
cross which she discovered, a knotty cross between four 
crowns, as Camden takes notice." 

FRED. A. WELD. 
Government House, Hobart Town, Tasmania. 

HANDEL'S ORGANS (5 th S. iv. 467.) The organ 
presented by Handel to the Foundling has been 
handled as a fondling. About four years since 
70(). or 8001. were expended in order to enlarge 
and improve the instrument, so that the originality 
is, perhaps, nearly improved out of it, and Handel's 
gift may be likened to the patched coat of the 
Irishman. FREDK. EULE. 

TENNYSON : " THE PRINCESS " : " HER THAT 
TALKED DOWN," &c. (5 th S. iv. 464.) Tennyson 
probably refers to St. Catherine of Alexandria 
when he speaks of " Her that talked down the 
fifty wisest men." We are told that she out- 
argued and converted fifty philosophers whom 
Maxentius pitted against her. ST. SWITHIN. 

" As COARSE AS GARASSE " (5 th S. iv. 465.) 
Can the English proverb, " As coarse as gorse," 
come from this French form ? It is common in 
several parts of England, and about Nottingham 
I have often heard it "As coarse as Hickling 
gorse." ELLCEE. 

Craven. 

METAL TOBACCO PIPES (5 th S. iv. 328, 495 ; v. 
39.) Kingsley was not guilty of an anachronism 
in representing men of the time of Elizabeth 
smoking tobacco in silver pipes. Aubrey says : 

"He (Raleigh) was the first that brought tobacco into 
England and into fashion. In one part of North Wilts 
(Malmesbury hundred) it came first into fashion by Sir 
Walter Long. They had first silver pipes. The ordinary 
sort made use of a walnut shell and a straw. I have 
heard my grandfather Lyte say that one pipe was handed 
from man to man round the table." 

WALTER KIRKLAND. 
Eastbourne. 

THE TRADE OF TANNING (5 th S. iv. 428 ; v. 33.) 
There may be added to the list of tanners Jona- 
than Martin, who burned York Minster. 

ED. MARSHALL. 

OLD LONDON CHURCHES (5 th S. iv. 449.) Per- 
haps the best book on the churches before the fire 
is Stow's, ^nd the best edition of Stow is that 
edited by Strype. There are several chapters on 
the London churches in Knight's London. Then 
there are a great many monographs on certain 
churches, such as Denham on St. Dunstan's West ; 
Wilson on St. Laurence Pountney, &c. Brayley's 
History of London is good for family reading. 



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But for this particular purpose perhaps Walter 
Thornbury's Old and Neiv London is as good as 
any, as it is very richly illustrated with good re- 
presentations of the old spots, rendering what is 
read much more impressive. Taken for all in all, 
for one who really wishes to read up the antiquities 
of our for the most part hideous, but yet wonderfully 
interesting, old city, Cunningham's Handbook is a 
compendium of libraries, indispensable, and almosl 
self-sufficient. With Walter Thornbury's Haunteu 
London and Cunningham, I think MR. RAN- 
DOLPH would find his purpose attained ; if not, 
Tinibs may be added, who has written whole 
volumes about the Curiosities of London, The 
Romance of London, the city and suburbs about 
London and Westminster, by Walks and Talks, 
and by all manner of devices. 

But, with all the literature that exists on the 
topic, London is so fruitful a theme that there is 
plenty of room still for another book that should 
digest into a Thesaurus all the existing books, with 
a huge and perfect index, and afterwards there 
might be added another volume or two of facts of 
interest that are yet unchronicled. 



Mayfair 



C. A. WARD. 



" THE NORTHERN MAGAZINE " (5 th S. iv. 467.) 
This magazine was a monthly of thirty pages, 
each number published by Henry Grier, Belfast, 
from March, 1852, till February, 1853, thus com- 
pleting one year. It was almost entirely a literary 
magazine, and during its short career attracted 
much attention. The amateur authors, who chiefly 
contributed to its pages, gave it up after a year's 
career, merely because their professional and busi- 
ness duties prevented them from devoting to it 
the constant attention which a monthly serial re- 
quires. Its editors were Mr. Eobert Taylor, Mr. 
A. O'D. Taylor, and Mr. Joseph John Murphy. 
The first-named gentleman died in India many 
years ago. The other two are gentlemen well 
known in literary and scientific circles in Belfast, 
and are still active and interested in belles lettres. 
Mr. A. O'D. Taylor was the practical editor. Be- 
sides the editors, some of the principal contributors 
were the late Earl of Belfast, Mr. F. D. Finlay, 
Mr. Isaac J. Murphy, Mr. Thomas O'Gorman, 
Mr. Edwin L. Godkin, Mr. Alfred McFariand, 
&c. The magazine contained a novel entitled " The 
Oakwoods of Oakwood," which was written by 
Mr. Eobert Taylor. The poetry was considered 
much above the average, and on the whole the 
effort, from a literary point of view, remains one of 
which Belfast may feel rather proud. 

W. H. PATTERSON. 
Belfast. 

COAT OF ARMS (5 th S. iv. 468.) Gules, three 
martlets or, a chief vaire, is the coat of Bayley, of 
Oxfordshire, as engraved in the margin of the map 



in Dr. Plot's Natural History of that county. Dr. 
Guidott, in his Discourse of Bathe, &c., 1676, gives 
the same coat to Ralph Bayly, M.D., of Bath, 
who, he informs us, was a native of Berkshire. 
The dexter coat is probably Aylworth, the mullet 
being a difference. H. S. G. 

"A TOUCHSTONE FOR GOLD AND SILVER 
WARES ; OR, A MANUAL FOR GOLDSMITHS " (5 th 
S. v. 9.) Upon looking through the list of gold- 
smiths for the year 1677, published in the Little 
London Directory, and reprinted by J. C. Hotten 
in 1863, are the following, under the head of B., 
amongst those goldsmiths who kept "running 
cashes " : 

John Bolitho, at the Golden Lion, in Lumbard Street; 
John Ballard, at the Unicorn, in Lumbard Street ; Job 
Bolton, at the Bolt and Tun, in Lumbard Street; 
* Richard Blanchard, at the Marygold, in Fleet Street. 

Although none of the above have the initial W., 
still I thought MR. W. J. GREEN might like to 
know of them, as probably W. B. was connected 
with one of them. 

In addition to the above there was a William 
Battalie, of Mark Lane, who kept his cash with 
Alderman Edward Backwell, up to the time the 
latter failed in 1672. Battalie's transactions with 
Backwell would lead one to suppose he might 
have been a goldsmith. F. G. HILTON PRICE. 

Temple Bar. 

A FOLLOWER OF THE STUARTS (5 th S. v. 21.) 
Is the name known of the person, attached to the 
exiled Stuarts, who was buried at Florence, and 
upon whom the beautiful epitaph, quoted at the 
above reference, was written by Lord Macaulay 1 
Scargill, whose " whispering trees " are alluded to 
in it, is on the river Greta, in Yorkshire, not far 
from " Brignall banks," and is mentioned by Sir 
Walter Scott, in Kokeby, as the place where Ber,- 
tram had the interview with Guy Denzil : 
" He stands in Scargill wood alone, 
Nor hears he now a harsher tone 
Than the hoarse cushat's plaintive cry, 
Or Greta's sound that murmurs by ; 
And on the dale, so lone and wild, 
The summer sun in quiet smiled." 

Canto iii. stanza 8. 

Perhaps the epitaph might have been written 
on an expatriated scion of the ancient Koman 
atholic family of Witham of Cliffe, long resident 
in that northern part of Yorkshire, which is di- 
vided from Durham by the " lovelier Tees," for 
which the exile pined on the banks of the Arno. 
The present and last representative of the line, 
;he Rev. Thomas Witham, now resides at Lart- 
ngton Hall, near Barnard Castle ; and amongst 
lis valuable collection of paintings is a very curious 
one, in oils, of old Lord Lovat, who was executed 
for the share he took in the rebellion of 1745. 



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The artist is unknown, and the picture was found 
some time ago in a garret at Cliffe Hall, and re- 
moved from thence to Lartington. Lartington is 
also in the county of York. 

JOHN PICKFORD, M.A. 
Newbourne Kectory, Woodbridge. 

"TnE PEACE EGG" (5 th S. iv. 511.)- In Lan- 
cashire the old mummers' play of St. George, as 
described by MR. Cox, is always performed at 
Easter, and is known as "pacegging," and the 
performers are called " paceggers." 

H. FISHWICK, F.S.A. 

The confusion seems to be due to the fact that 
in Mid-Lancashire the mummers do not go about 
at Christmas, but in Passion week, under the name 
of " pace eggers," i. e. Pasque eggers. Our people 
used to patronize them when we were children. 
They generally sung a song, and had some sword- 
play, and had the doctor, the old woman, &c. 
They are not much patronized now. People object 
to that sort of thing in Passion week, very properly. 

P. P. 



"iRincA" OR "HILEPICA" (5 th S. v. 5.) In 
the article on " The Wise Woman of Wing " (ante, 
p. 4), "iripica" is said to have been brought from 
Jamaica, and that its composition was kept a pro- 
found secret. The " mysterious drug " is the old 
and well-known preparation called " hiera picra," 
the sacred bitter, which was a powder consisting 
of one part of aloes and three parts of canella 
bark, two drugs which are imported from the West 
Indies. 

" Hiera picra " is vulgarly pronounced " hickry- 
pickry," and it is also known by the vulgar name 
"pillicoshy," which seems to mean " pilulic coccue," 
of which one of the ingredients was " hiera picra." 
See Pharmacopeia Collegii Eegalis Medicorum 
Londinensis, folio, 1721, p. 95. A. S. 

" Irapica" Avas doubtless comp. extract of colo- 
cyntli, well known among the poorer class (in 
Kent at least) as " hierapicra." P. W. J. 

_ HATS WORN AT MEALS (5 th S. v. 27.) D. C. E. 
gives an instance of this custom at the Charter- 
house in 1622, and inquires whether it was usual 
to sit down to meals covered. Mr. Samuel Pepys's 
diary for Sept. 22, 1664, is as follows : " Home to 
bed ; having got a strange cold in my head, by 
flinging off my hat at a dinner, sitting with the 
wind in my neck." And Lord Braybrooke, in his 
note on this passage, refers to a statement made 
by Lord Clarendon, in his essay on the Decay of 
Respect paid to Age, to the effect that when young 
he never kept his hat on before his seniors, except 
at dinner. A> j. M> 

"ACKER" (5* S. v. 33, note.)-Dn. CHANCE 
asks for information respecting the use of this 



word, in the sense of a measure of land. Almost 
immediately after reading his query I came upon 
the word in a German horticultural journal, where 
it is explained that the English acre is equal to 
about seven-tenths of a Saxon acker. But I sus- 
pect the use of the word to designate a fixed area 
of land is quite local, for I do not remember having 
met with it before, Morgen being the term gene- 
rally employed. W. B. HEMSLET. 
Richmond. 

LLEWELYN AP GRIFFITH AND HIS DESCENDANTS 
(5 th S. v. 48.) The statement cited by C. L. from 
the pedigree of Mostyn of Talacre, Burke's Baro- 
netage, 1855, which has suggested his inquiry, is a 
misprint. Yorwerth Vychan ap Yorwerth Gam, 
ancestor of the Mostyn line, married Catherine, 
daughter of Griffith ap Llewelyn, Prince of North 
Wales, and sister, not daughter, of Llewelyn ap 
Griffith, last Prince of North Wales. By referring 
to the family of Trevor of Trevallyn (which had a 
common origin with that of Mostyn), under Griffith 
of Penpompren, Burke's Landed Gentry, 1853, it 
will be seen that the wife of Yorwerth Vychan ap 
Yorwerth Gam was Catherine, daughter of Griffith 
ap Llewelyn, Prince of North Wales. 

Catherine, daughter of the last Prince of North 
Wales, Llewelyn ap Griffith, is stated by Welsh 
genealogists to have married Philip ap Ivor, Lord 
of Cardigan, and to have been by him mother of a 
daughter and heiress, Eleonore, who, marrying 
Thomas ap Llewelyn, last Lord of South Wales, 
had an elder daughter and co-heir, Eleonore 
mother, by her husband Griffith Vychan, Lord of 
Glyndwrdwy, of Owen Glyndwr, representative, 
paternally, of the Powysian sovereigns. 

SIGN AP GWYLLIM AP SION. 

Kensington. 

THE DIE-SINKERS AND ARTISTS IN MEDALS OF 
THE SEVENTEENTH AND EIGHTEENTH CENTURIES 
IN GREAT BRITAIN (5 th S. iv. 449 ; v. 55.) There 
are some scattered notices on this subject in 
Bolzenthal's Skizzen zur Kunstgeschichte der 
modernen Medaillen- Arbeit (1429-1840). Berlin, 
1840. T. J. A. 

" ATTORNEY " (5 th S. v. 8.) I take the passage 
which Hie ET UBIQUE asks for to be this, which I 
extract from Abp. Trench's Sekct Glossary: " Our 
everlasting and only High Bishop ; our only at- 
torney, only mediator, only peacemaker between 
God and man." A Short Catechism, 1553. The 
publication of this is related in Collier's History, 
v. 497 ; but the author does not seem, to be cer- 
tainly known. I may add that this short catechism, 
under the title of King Edward VI.'s, is the first ar- 
ticle in Bishop Randolph's Enchiridion Thcologi- 
cum, where Hie ET UBIQUE'S passage will be found 
on p. 16. The catechism is also printed, both in 
English and Latin, in The Two Liturgies and 



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Other Documents, edited, for the Parker Society 
by the Eev. Joseph Ketley, where the passage 
may be seen on p. 504, and in Latin the wore 
being there " advocatus" on p. 553. 

C. F. S. WARREN, M.A. 
Bexhill. 

RELATIONSHIP (5 th S. iv. 329, 415, 476, 522.) 
Relationship by affinity is not extended to col- 
lateral relations of the " propositus." Thus, my 
wife's relations by consanguinity are my relations 
"by affinity ; but they are no relations at all to my 
brother or other collateral relations, or (a fortiori) 
to ray brother's children. 

To come to the case in question. My wife's 
brother's children are her nephews and nieces by 
blood and mine by affinity, and are first cousins to 
my children ; but they are no relations at all to 
my brother, and, a fortiori, no relations to his 
children. C. S. 

SACRAMENT SHILLING (5 th S. iv. 508.) A ring 
made out of a shilling from the offertory is occa- 
sionally used in Herefordshire as a remedy for 
fits. T. W. WEBB. 

LORD MANSFIELD (5 th S. iv. 468, 500.) It is 
asked what was Lord Mansfield's reason for choos- 
ing Mansfield for his title, and if he had any con- 
nexion with that town. When William Murray, 
a native of Perthshire, and a younger son of Vis- 
count Stormont, was in 1756 to be made a baron, 
he chose Mansfield (Notts) for his title because 
his wife was connected with that part of the 
country. She was a daughter of the Earl of Win- 
chilsea and Nottingham. He married in 1738. 
In 1776 he was made Earl of Mansfield, with 
remainder to his nephew. He ought to have 
chosen for his title the name of some place in 
Scotland ; for family and local reasons Scone 
would have been suitable, for local reasons Gowrie 
-would have answered well. On this occasion he 
showed a discreditable absence of proper national 
feeling. After making the mistake in 1756, he 
had an opportunity of correcting it in 1776, and 
he repeated his error. There is another instance 
of the same fault : in 1780, Alexander Wedder- 
burn, a native of East Lothian, was made a baron, 
and chose to be named Baron Loughborough, of 
Loughborough, in the county of Leicester. His 
reason was that he had been member of Parlia- 
ment either for that place or for some town near 
it. In 1795 he had a new patent granted to him 
(with some alteration as to the succession), as 
Baron Loughborough, of Loughborough, in the 
county of Surrey. In 1801 he was to be made an 
earl, and on this occasion he had the good taste 
and the proper amount of nationality to take a 
name belonging to his own country : he was made 
Earl of Eosslyn. THOMAS STRATTON. 

Stoke, Devonport. 



" THERE WAS AN APE," &c. (5 th S. iv. 149, 218, 
275 ; v. 38.) Surely my learned friend MR. 
BERNHARD SMITH is a little unkind. I assert 
that apes have no toes. MR. SMITH takes the 
trouble to write to " N. & Q." to hold me up to 
your readers as guilty of a "mistake," because 
(says MR. SMITH) " these beasts " (although called 
quadrumana) have " hinder thumbs," which " by 
courtesy " may be termed toes. TQhis may be very 
courteous to " these beasts," but it is very hard 
upon MIDDLE TEMPLAR. 

"CiviERs" (5 th S. iv. 288, 472; v. 39.) As 
recently as 1857 there was a Rev. James Sevier, 
Rector of Hasfield, near Gloucester. A gentleman 
with the name of Sevier is now living at Maise- 
more, near Gloucester. P. J. F. GANTILLON. 

THE CHARTERHOUSE : BEAVORS (5 th S. v. 27, 
56.) The word beavor or bever did not signify 
a drink, but a meal. Phillips (1706) defines it as 
"a small collation betwixt dinner and supper," 
and Bailey (1737) adds to this definition, "an 
afternoon luncheon." The 12th of December 
was kept as the founder's commemoration day. 
The founder, Thomas Sutton, died December 12, 
1611, and it was ordered that henceforth on that 
day there should be a special service, and that the 
inmates of the hospital should have extra commons, 
as on all other festival days. EDWARD SOLLY. 

The word bever, in the sense of refreshment, 
would seem to have been in use until compara- 
ively recent date. It is so applied by John 
Thomas Smith in the following passage from 
Nollekens and his Times : 

' He generally contrived to get through tlie small 
quantity he allowed himself, never thinking of keeping 
any portion of a roll or a pat of butter for any one who 
might pop in at his breakfasting hour, or as a reserve for 
a friend as a bever before dinner." Vol. i. p. 79. 

The book was published in 1828, and it must be 
nferred that the expression, if not then common, 
was not supposed to require explanation. 

CHARLES WYLIE. 

In close accordance with the expression "Dyets 
and Beavors," a labouring man in Bedfordshire 
ilways uses the word bever or baver. It means 
' something to eat and drink " about eleven o'clock, 
similar to our luncheon. If you inquire as to 
wages, your man will reply that he has so much 
day and his baver. T. W. R. 

See The Public Schools' Calendar for 1866, 
p. 206, under " Charterhouse " : 

If a boy wants an additional piece of bread, he asks 
"or a 'beavor' (bevere), a bit taken with drink ; a term 
also in use at Winchester." 

P. J. F. GANTILLON. 

GIPSIES : TINKLERS (5 th S. ii. 421 ; iii. 409 ; 
v. 52.) The name " Tinkler," as applied to Gipsies, 



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is frequently mentioned in .A History of the 
Gipsies, by Walter Simson, edited by James Sim- 
son, published in 1865 by Sampson Low & Co., 
London, and Menzies, Edinburgh. This work, 
575 pages, contains a most interesting collection 
of facts relating to the Scotch Gipsies. There is 
much evidence of patient research and truthful 
investigation, but little practical knowledge of 
Gipsy inner life and every-day scenes of their 
tented wanderings. The Scotch Gipsies are often 
mentioned by the author as Tinklers and Homers, 
from their occupation, just as many English Gipsies 
are called Tinkers. The word only means a par- 
ticular craft, not a race of people. There is no 
Romany word that I ever heard from which Tinkler 
could be derived. The interesting proof of the 
early mention of the name seven hundred years 
back shows that the occupation of tinkler or tin- 
smith was an ancient craft, but affords no proof 
that Gipsies were then to be found in Scotland. 
It would seem that Gipsies, after their arrival in 
Scotland, about 1506, followed, amongst other oc- 
cupations best suited to a wandering life, the tin- 
smith's craft, which has in many other countries 
been with Gipsies a favourite means of gaining a 
subsistence. In 1874 I visited some Hungarian 
Gipsies at their camp in Norway, and they were 
following the occupation of tinklers. 

HUBERT SMITH. 

PRE-EEFORMATION CHURCH PLATE (5 th S. v. 
48, 7G.) See p. 145 of Curiosities of London, 1855, 
by the late John Timbs, for a description of the 
parish church of St. Mary Magdalene, Bermond- 



" Among the communion plate is an ancient silver 
salver, supposed to have belonged to the Abbey of Ber- 
mondsey: in the centre, a knight in plate armour is 
kneeling to a female about to place a helmet on his head, 
at the gate of a castle or fortified town ; from the fashion 
of the armour and the form of the helmet this relic is 
referred to the age of Edward II." 

Is this alms-dish still used ? 

C. WOTHERSPOON. 

Streatham. 

IVY : IVVT : IVORY (5 th S. iv. 488.) A farm 
labourer, native of Nottinghamshire, long resident 
in Lincolnshire, generally speaks of it as "the 
green T-vo-ry." J. BEALE. 

HERALDIC (5th S. v. 9, 54.)-In the Gatherings 
of Oxfordshire, collected by Ptichard Lee in 1574, 
contained in the fifth volume of the publications 
of the Harleian Society, at p. 9, the arms A. E. L. L. 
inquires about are attributed to the family of San- 
chet : 

" In Sarsdene House. 

" Quarterly of six. 1 Barry nebulce of six or and sa. 

Blountl 2. Or, a castle az. [Sanchet]. 3. Vairee are 

and az. [Beauchamp of Hache]. 4. Two wolves passant 

within a tressure fleurie (untinctured) [Job. de Aylade 



Hispania]. 5. Sa. a pale arg. [Jo. de la Forde]. 6. Or> 
a greyhound saliant, parted per pale sa. and arg. [Jo. de 
la Ford in com. Bucks], impaling, Quarterly 1 and 4. 
Az. on a cross between four doves arg. five torteaux gu., 
each charged with a star arg. [Lister]. 2 and 3. Gu. 
semee of crescents or, a lion rampant arg. [Lister]. 

" Over it written R. Blount & E. Lister." 

The editor adds a note : 

" The names attached to the coats are principally 
taken from Wood's notes, made -when he visited Sarsden 
House, Feb. 28, 1675." 

WILLIAM C. HEANE. 

BELL-FROGS IN ENGLAND (5 th S. iv. 486.) 
No doubt the clear bell-like noise heard by DR. 
GORDON proceeded from the Natterjack Toad (Bvfo 
calamita). I know from personal observation that 
this species abounds so near to Clapham as Barnes 
Common. It is a far handsomer and more attrac- 
tive-looking animal than the common toad, and its 
croaking is iust as described by DR. GORDON. 

W. E. TATE. 

Blandford St. Mary, Dorset. 

MEDALLIC (5 th S. iv. 487.) Although the medal 
to which I alluded appeared to answer so well to 
the description of that mentioned by O'Brien, a 
good authority has since pronounced it to be of 
the sixteenth century, and stated that a full de- 
scription of it is given in Kohler's Munz Bdusti- 
gung, Nuremberg, 1734, vol. vi. p. 353. 

KALPH N. JAMES. 

Asbford, Kent. 



NOTES ON BOOKS, &o. 

Catena Classicorum. Thucydides, III.-IV. Ed- 
ited, with English Notes, by G. A. Simcox, M. A. 
Taciti Historice, I.-II. Edited, with English 
Notes and Introduction, by W. H. Simcox, M. A. 
Terentii Andria. Edited by T. L. Papillon, M.A. 
New Edition, with an Introduction on Prosody. 
(Eivingtons.) 

WE have here several valuable instalments of the 
useful series of the Classics commenced under the 
joint supervision of Mr. Holmes and Mr. Bigg, and 
which has from the first commanded general 
approval by the judicious selection of editors, and 
the conscientious manner in which the objects of 
the series have been carried out. In the set now 
before us, we note with pleasure that Mr. G. A. 
Simcox brings to bear on the elucidation of his 
text not only the results of his well-known classical 
scholarship, but also, and very much to the point, 
a knowledge of the idioms of modern European 
languages. We may hope that boys will be in- 
duced to treat their modern-language master with 
greater respect, when they observe that Mr. Sim- 
cox sometimes finds the best rendering of a Greek 
passage in a French rather than in an English 
construction (e.g. bk. iv. chap. 4). Eightly viewed, 
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studies, but rather much assistance to be derived 
from their simultaneous pursuit. Mr. W. H. Sim- 
cox gives us the first two books of the History of 
Tacitus, with an interesting Introduction, in which 
he investigates most of the questions, historical, 
philosophical, and personal, that have from time 
to time been mooted respecting his author, with a 
learning and an occasional quaintly humorous 
turn of expression that render it very pleasant 
reading. The notes, sometimes perhaps too dog- 
matic on matters of textual criticism, have the 
great value of containing, in many cases, food for 
thought, as well as help for the difficulty of the 
moment. Mr. Papillon's new edition of the 
Andria has for its very .'sufficient raison d'etre an 
Introduction, now first prefixed, on Latin Prosody, 
in which he discusses the knotty questions con- 
nected not merely with Terentian metre, but with 
that of the comic poets generally. To the philo- 
logist the interest of this discussion is heightened 
by the fact, justly insisted upon by Mr. Papillon, 
that while " the language of Cicero and Csesar, of 
Vergil and Ovid, was a fixed literary dialect, stereo- 
typed and polished to an artificial precision and 
uniformity impossible for the language of every- 
day life, Terence and Plautus wrote much as the 
Romans of their time spoke." 

MR. MURRAY has completed the life of Mr. Grote, by 
giving further samples of the great thinker's mental 
powers, in a work entitled Fragments on JSthical Sub- 
jects, by the late George Grote, 'F.R.S., being a selection 
from his posthumous papers. In six essays Mr. Grote 
discusses the nature and growth of ethical sentiment, 
the philosophy of morals, the ancient systems of moral 
philosophy, the idea of ethical philosophy, the morals 
and the politics of Aristotle. The book is by a thought- 
ful man for thoughtful readers. With regard to one 
question, it might, perhaps, be simply said that every 
crime springs from selfishness, and that every selfish 
man has in him the germ of every crime. His safeguard 
is to watch and pray against his selfishness. 

MR. ELLIOT STOCK, moved, perhaps, by his success 
with the Pilgrim's Progress, has published a fac-simile 
of the first edition of Izaak Walton's Complete A ngler, 
which original edition came out in 1653. This reprint 
will find favour with all who " love quietnesse, and ver- 
tue, and angling." 

GROOMBRIDGE'S Handy Concordance to the New Testa- 
ment, with contexts, contains nearly thirty thousand 
references. It is a perfect work for the object kept in 
view, by perfect compilers. 

AMONG books received we have to note a reprint of 
Fuller's Sermon on the Reformation (Pickering), being a 
sample of the form in which Fuller's collected sermons 
will be edited by Mr. J. E. Bailey, F.S.A., an interesting 
History of the Baronial Family of Marmion, between the 
Norman Conquest and the Close of the Thirteenth Cen- 
tury, by Mr. C. F. R. Palmer (Tamworth, Thompson), 
Earth in Danger (E. W. Allen), in which the author, 
Mr. Watt, thinks the earth is increasing in weight, from 
meteoric matter deposited on the surface, and is perilled 
by such surcharge, Memorials of the Rev. John Dod, 
Rector of Fawsley, Northamptonshire, 1624-45 (North- 
ampton, Taylor & Son) : in addition to biographical details, 



we have here various versions of Bod's sermon on malt, 
with a collection of the worthy sayings of old Mr. Dod, 
and a bibliographical list of jhis writings, last, but riot 
least, one of our esteemed correspondents, Mr. Wm. 
Wing, has reprinted, from the Oxford Chronicle, his 
Annals of Steeple Aston and Middle Aston, in the 
County of Oxford. Mr. Wing is an admirable local 
historian. In seven dozen of neatly printed pages he 
has condensed matter which some compilers would have 
spread over a quarto or two. 

THE TITLE OF " REVEREND." The Judicial Committee 
of the Privy Council have declared that " reverend " is not 
a peculiar title of office or dignity, but one of courtesy, 
applicable to those who are worthy of reverence. Where- 
upon the Rev. G. W. Manning has taken the step thus 
announced in the Daily News of Tuesday, 25th inst. : 
"The Vicar of Little Petherick, S. Issey, Cornwall, 
has, in an advertisement in a Plymouth newspaper, re- 
quested correspondents to address him in future as 
G. W. Manning. He adds, ' correspondents who prefix 
to his name the now desecrated epithet of " reverend " 
will please not to be offended if he rejects their letters, 
&c.'" The Guardian states that several of its clerical 
subscribers have requested that the paper should not be 
sent to them with the prefix of " Rev." to their names. 

THE February number of the Law Magazine and 
Review will contain an exhaustive article on the " Ex- 
territoriality of Public Ships of War in Foreign Waters," 
by Sir Travers Twiss, throwing new light on the legal 
aspects of the Admiralty Slave Circular. 

EXONIENSIS denies the fact recorded ante, p. 65, and 
quoted from the J2xeter Western Times. 



to 

ON all communications should be written the name end 
address of the sender, not necessarily for publication, but 
as a guarantee of good faith. 

S. YOUNG. See General Index, " N. & Q.," Second 
Series, for the subject of "Midwife and Man-Midwife." 
The origin and history ar ithere pretty fully shown. The 
recent resolution of the Council of the Royal College of 
Surgeons to admit lady students in midwifery to exami- 
nations in that branch of the medical profession is no 
novelty at all. To the information contained on this 
point in the Second Series, we add the following extract 
from the autobiography of the well-known Mrs. Laetitia 
Pilkington (1712-1750), whose father, Dr. Van Lewen, 
was a medical man practising in Dublin : " And there 
being then," says the lady, " but one Man-Midwife in 
the Kingdom, my Father made himself Master of that 
useful Art, and practised it with great Success, Reputa- 
tion, and Humanity." 

W. C. H. (5 th S. iv. 439.) M. W. writes : "I find in 
The Poetical Album, edited by Alaric A. Watts, second 
series, published by Hurst, Chance & Co., St. Paul's 
Churchyard, 1829, the little poem inquired for by 
W. C. H. ; it is there called * The Scarf of Gold and 
Blue, a ballad, by H. G. Bell, Esq.,' and appears to be 
taken from The Literary Souvenir." 

G. STEEL. In the last century Mr. Home (ob. 1739), 
the banker, held the office of lamplighter to his Majesty, 
for which he received 6001. a year. The post was in the 
gift of the Lord Steward of the Household. 

IGNORANT. Any intelligent child could answer such 
a query. The same may be said as to the query of 

PHILOL. " Skitting Dealers " was a slang phrase, in 
George II.'s time, for beggars who professed to be 
tongueles?. 



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A K (Taunton.) We will forward the impression to 
LORD ALWYNE COMPTON. It will give us great pleasure 
to hear from you on any future occasion. 

DUNELMENSIS. The subject suggested is quite suitable. 

MR. FCRMVALL'S envoi is acknowledged with best 
thanks. 

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CONTENTS. N 110. 

NOTES : The New Peerages, 101 The " First Nobility" Roll 
of Arms, 103 Shakspeariana -Earthworks in Epping Forest, 
105-Mrs. Dingley The Woulfes of Limerick Celtic and 
Sanscrit, 106. 

QUERIES : The Lordship of Bromfield and Yale Garnett 
Family The Rev. W. Blaxton, 107" Persona," Derivation 
of S. Johnson, M.A., 1786-Families of Woodward and 
Chinn "Camping" William atte Mawe J. S. Mill Lady 
Fenhoulhet The Giant Moulineau " The Conversion of the 
Britons" "Spider" Table -... Bogue, Bookseller, 108- 
Eiding the Stang Surrage Family Austin =Evelyn Gair 
Innis, Morbihan " The Hundred Guilder Print" The Pro- 
testant Cathedrals of Holland Charles Lamb Fool, in 
' Gooseberry-Fool" Heraldic The Derivation of Stilton, 
Glatton, and Connington Privileges of Regiments, 109. 

KEPLIES : Bookbinding, 109" Last of the Stuarts," 110 
"Fiat justitia," &c., Ill Boy Bishops Cleopatra S. Ca- 
silda, 112 Registrum Sacrum Batavianum 'RSrj, 113 
Ghauts, 114 Monumental Inscriptions in Norman French 
"Dominus illuminatio mea" La Zouche Family The De 
Cantilupe Family Bristol Cathedral Library, 115 -John 
Holland Lord Chancellor Ellesmere " Coming through 
the rye " Mus86U3 and St. Luke, 116 The Cimmerians and 
Catacombs" Skid" Louise Lateau, 117. 

Notes on Books, <fcc. 



fat** 

THE NEW PEERAGES. 

A batch of eight peerages has been recently 
made ; and though " N. & Q." does not generally 
notice such sublunary matters, yet there are some 
peculiarities about these creations not about 
the persons ennobled (who are all bene nati and 
bene meriti), but about the titles selected and 
modus in quo which may be worthy of notice. 
Of these eight, four were already in the House 
of Lords, though one (as a representative peer of 
Ireland) only for life. They are as follows : 

1. The Duke of Richmond in England (and of 
Lennox in Scotland), created " Earl of Kinrara, 
co. Inverness, and Duke of Gordon, of Gordon 
Castle, in that part of the United Kingdom called 
Scotland." His Grace, being already, as one of 
the comic serials said, " a double-barrelled duke " 
(and that, too, of two hundred years' standing), 
appears to wish, by adding a third dukedom (of the 
creation of 1876), to become "a revolver." As 
the representative of his grandmother, the senior 
co-ifceir of the Dukes of Gordon, he possesses Gor- 
don Castle, and other estates of that family, which 
came to his father in 1836 (who thereupon took 
the name of Gordon before that of Lennox), by the 
death of (his maternal uncle) George, fifth Duke of 
Gordon, without issue, in that year, when that 
dukedom (in the Scotch peerage), which had lasted 



about 150 years, became extinct. The Marquess 
of Huntly, the heir male of the house of Gordon, 
descends only from the grandfather of the first 
Duke of Gordon. The earldom of Kinrara is a 
title hitherto unknown, and does as well as any 
other to be coupled with that of March, the cour- 
;esy title of the duke's eldest son. If it amuses 
tiis Grace to have it, it certainly hurts no one, and 
doubtless is " good for trade." 

2. The Earl of Abergavenny, created " Earl of 
Lewes, co. Sussex, and Marquess of Abergavenny, 
co. Monmouth." It is strange that the town of 
Lewes has never before been selected for a peerage 
designation. It is an appropriate title for one 
who has large estates in Sussex, though, in this 
case, that of Tunbridge would have been still more 
appropriate. As to the marquessate, which the 
Times thought it beneath the dignity of the earl 
to accept, it is hard to see why a family, which 
obtained an earldom from George III., should not 
take a marquessate from his granddaughter. With 
respect to the barony of Abergavenny, which his 
ancestor, Edward Neville, obtained by writ of 
summons in 1604 (though he was not the heir 
general of that barony), it seems doubtful whether 
such writ (although the newly summoned baron 
was placed in the precedency due to the old lords, 
i. e. that of 1392) does not constitute an entirely 
new barony of that date. One can hardly see how 
it deprived Lady Fane, the heir general, of her 
right of inheriting the ancient barony, which (be 
it remembered) came to the Nevilles "with a 
lass " (in 1450), and ought apparently to have left 
them "with a lass," in 1587. However this may 
be, the barony which Edward Neville possessed in 
1604, though one by ivrit, was allowed in 1695 to 
the heir male, instead of the heir general (female), 
of his body, and as the present marquess is, and 
his great-grandfather, the first earl, was, such an heir 
male (though they were not heirs general), these new 
titles of Abergavenny are removed from the ob- 
jection of giving to a man possessing a barony in 
fee an earldom of the same place, with a different 
remainder. 

3. Lord Wharncliffe, created "Viscount Carlton 
of Carlton, and Earl of WharnclifFe, both in the 
west riding of co. York " ; with a special remain- 
der, in default of male issue, to his brother, the 
Hon. Francis Dudley Stuart- Wortley. The Earl 
of Shannon in the Irish peerage sits in the House 
of Lords as Lord Carleton of Carleton, co. York, 
a barony created in 1786. This, however, is not 
the same place, nor spelt in the same way. Be- 
sides, as Lord Shannon's second title, by which 
his eldest son is known, is Viscount Boyle while, 
on the other hand, Lord Wharncliffe will not sit 
in the House of Lords as Lord Carlton no con- 
fusion can arise. The special remainder, though 
unusual, and, of course, a very great favour, is not 
without precedent in the case of a peerage con- 



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[5 th S. V. FEB. 5, 76. 



ferred on a person already a peer, as in the case of 
the late Lord Brougham, the first Earl of Kosslyn, 
&c. ; and in this case it is only the extension of 
the higher titles to one already in remainder to the 
barony. The title of Wharncliffe appears to be 
taken from Wharncliffe Lodge, in the parish of 
Tankersley, the only mention of the name of 
Wharncliffe in Langdale's Dictionary of Yorkshire, 
1809. This, for an earldom, seems a somewhat 
humble origin. No such reproach, however, of 
over-humility can attach to the next person en- 
nobled, viz. 

4. The Earl of Erne, a representative peer of 
Ireland, created " Baron Fermanagh of Lisnaskea, 
in the county of Fermanagh." The title of Fer- 
managh was enjoyed, as a viscounty and barony 
in the peerage of Ireland, by the family of Verney 
of Buckinghamshire, from 1703 to 1810. Why 
the Earl of Erne, who is known both in and out 
of the House of Lords as such (sitting there as a 
representative peer as Earl of Erne), should 
be ashamed of the title lie derives from his ances- 
tors is hard to tell. His second title, by which 
his son and heir apparent is known, is Viscount 
Crichton ; so the name of Lord Fermanagh will 
be utterly unknown, excepting so far only as his 
successors may be known in the House (only) under 
that title. He should not anyhow have been al- 
lowed to select a county as the title for his barony. 
His lordship is now Baron of a County of a town in 
that county. There are not too many counties, for 
earls present and future, to admit of one being 
"potted" in this manner, and condemned to per- 
petual obscurity. Probably his lordship's view 
was the same as that of the late Marquess of 
Hertford, who, towards the end of his life, when 
asked (after having stated that he did not now 
care for any enjoyment) why he had just purchased 
a picture of immense value, replied that, though 
he did not care about it for himself, it prevented 
" another fellow " from having it. It is a curious 
fact that, when Scotch or Irish peers receive a 
peerage of the United Kingdom, they generally 
prefer any title (often one unknown, and most un- 
couth) to their own ancient one. For instance, 
instead of there being in the House (as such) a 
Lord Courtown, Aboyne, Glasgow, Kinnaird, 
Enniskillen, Limerick, Conyngham, Clanricarde 
Crawford, Headfort, Heath, Gosford, Stair, Fife' 
Seafield, Dunraven, Hollo, Southesk, and Caith- 
ness, the peerages selected by the Scotch and 
Irish peers so named (as if on purpose to puzzle 
the uninitiated, and to lose their own identity) 
are Saltersford, Meldrum, Ross, Rossie, Grinstead, 
Foxford, Minster, Somerhill, Wigan, Kenlis, Cha- 
worth, Worlingham, Oxenfoord, Skene, Stratspey 
Kenry, Dunning, and (speak softly!) Balinhard 
and Barrogill. 

r>. John Ralph Ormsby-Gore, Esq., created 
"Baron Harlech of Harlech, co. Merioneth"; with 



a special remainder, in default of male issue, to his 
brother, William Eichard Ormsby-Gore, Esq. 
Harlech has never yet given a title of peerage, 
and, according to the Parliamentary Gazetteer, 
has been "long since reduced to a small village" ; 
indeed it, and the more famous "Men of Harlech" 
as well, were so much ignored, that the Times, 
and most of the papers, announced this creation 
as " Baron Hurlock." The title is, however, sans 
tache; not so, however, the special limitation, 
which is most objectionable, and appears to be 
almost without precedent (unless in the Irish 
peerage) in the case of one not already a peer of 
any of the three kingdoms, other than in such 
cases as Nelson, &c., to whose services those of 
the family of Ormsby-Gore can hardly be com- 
pared. To make the matter more strange, the 
brother is not even the heir presumptive of Lord 
Harlech, who has both a daughter and grandchild, 
who, it is to be presumed, will inherit such pro- 
perty as he is able to leave them. 

6. Henry Gerard Sturt, Esq., created " Baron 
Alington of Crichel, co. Dorset." His lordship is 
a descendant, through the family of Napier (baro- 
nets), of one of the two (in their issue) co-heirs of 
the family of Alington, Lords Alington in Ireland, 
1642 to 1722 ; in England 1682 to 1691. The 
Curzons, Earls Howe, through the family of Howe, 
represent the other co-heir. 

7. John Tollemache, Esq., created " Baron 
Tollemache of Helmingham Hall, co. Suffolk." He 
is paternally of a family named Halliday. His 
grandfather, John Delap Halliday, Esq., married 
the youngest daughter and co-heir of Lionel Tolle- 
mache, third Earl of Dysart, in Scotland, sister to 
Louisa (suo jure) Countess of Dysart, the ances- 
tress of the present earl. Their son. by royal 
licence, dated July 4, 1821, took the name of 
Tollemache in lieu of that of Halliday, and is the 
father of the present peer. 

8. Sir Robert Tolver Gerard, Bart., created 
" Baron Gerard of Bryn, in the co. palatine of 
Lancaster." Why this gentleman, whose heredi- 
tary rank, now above two centuries and a half old, 
gives him at present such infinite precedence over 
the last three-named persons, has been, for ever 
after, placed beneath them, and made the ''boots 57 
of the whole batch, is hard to say. The " majesty 
of the House of Commons" gives Messrs. Gore 
and Sturt no such precedence ; and as to Mr. 
Tollemache, he is but an ecc-member of that august 
assembly only, in fact, a dead lion (even supposing 
the M.P. in esse to be a lion), and, as such, cannot 
compare to a live dog, granting that a baronet is 
ranked as high as a dog. The late Lord Derby is 
reported to have said that he did not think that 
Gerard, the third baronet of the realm, would ac- 
cept of a nineteenth century barony. Certainly 
his position as such and his illustrious pedi- 
gree far overshadow the houses of Gore, Sturt, 



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103 



and Halliday ; and, in being placed beneath 
them, he may well use for his future motto that 
of the Courtenay family, " Ubi lapsus, quid feci ? " 

G. E. c. 



THE "FIRST MOBILITY" ROLL OF ARMS. 

The Historic Peerage says (p. 195, et seq.} that 
by the writ of Jan. 26, anno 25 Edw. I., six* earls 
and seventy-five barons, besides the judges, but 
no bishops or abbots, be it observed, were com- 
manded to assemble at Salisbury on Sept. 21 fol- 
lowing. In the summons, as printed in Parlia- 
mentary Writs, I can count but seventy-four 
barons (perhaps, however, the ". . . ." printed 
after the last of them has been considered to be 
the name of another now obliterated) ; and this is 
the number contained (when corrected) in the 
first of a series of rolls of arms, copies of which, in 
trick, by Sir Edward Bering (the eminent Kentish 
antiquary, temp. Charles I.) are at the present time 
in the possession of Eobert Hovenden, Esq., to 
whose kindness I am indebted for liberty to pub- 
lish them. For purposes of distinction I have 
elected to style them " Nobility " rolls. 

The editor of the Historic Peerage says, further, 
that a doubt, as to whether the writ in question 
can be deemed a regular writ of summons to 
Parliament, has been created in his mind by a 
manuscript note in a copy of Dugdale's Summonses 
to Parliament, in which the late Francis Townsend, 
" Windsor," remarks : " Vincent, t No. 35, p. 45, 
where a pencil note in the margin, of the hand- 
writing, as I think, of John Vincent, J says, ' This 
can be no summons, because it is only directed to 
the temporality.' " It would be superfluous, I 
imagine, to append notes tending to the identifi- 
cation of all, or indeed any, of the persons in- 
cluded ; because the Historic Peerage is accessible 
to most inquirers, and, read by the light of the 
information it affords, a pretty clear idea can be 
obtained of the authentic nature of the record now 
printed, I believe, for the first time. The trickings 
of the arms are but slightly (or hurriedly ?) exe- 
cuted. I have endeavoured, however, to give a 
faithful account of what is to be gathered from 
them. In all probability the originals, from which 
the transcripts referred to were taken, are now lost. 
There is in existence an ancient copy on vellum 
(made temp. Hen. IV. ?) of a nobility roll of arms, 
of the reign of Edward III. (British Museum Ad- 
ditional MS. No. 29505), which I hope to print 

* The Earl of Cornwall, to whom the writ is addressed, 
does not figure in the list of earls in that document, but 
he heads the roll, making the number of earls in it seven 
in all. 

t I- e. Vincent's Collections in the College of Arms. 
The pencil note seems to have been written in another 
copy of Dugdale'a Summonses. 

I Son of the celebrated Augustine Vincent, Windsor 



as an appropriate conclusion to these rolls, of 
similar character, temp. Edwards I. and II. : 



MADE ATT THE PARLIAM 1 HOLDEN ATT SALES- 
BURY 25 EDW. I. 

1. "Edm. Plantagenet, Erie of Cornwall." Arg. a 
lion ramp. gu. crowned or, and a bordure sa. bezantee. 

2. " Rog r Bigod, Erie of Xorf. & Marshall of EngV 
Per pale or and vert, a lion ramp. gu. 

3. " Will. Beauchamp, Earle of Warw." Quarterly, 
1 and 4, gu. a fess inter six cross crosslets or ; 2 and 3, 
chequy or and az. a chevron erm. 

4. "Rich, fitz Allen, Erie of Arundel." Gu. a lion 
ramp. or. 

5. "Rob. Vere, Erie of Oxford." Quarterly gu. and 
or, in first quarter a mullet arg. 

6. " Gilb't Vmfreuile, Erie of Angwish." Gu. a 
cinquefoil within an orle of cross crosslets or. 

7. " Aimer de Valence, Erie of Penbroke." Barry of 
ten arg. and az. an orle of ten martlets gu. 

8. " Rob. de Bruis,* Baron of Brecknok." Barry of 
six vair (potent counter potent) erm. and gu. and az. 

9. " Jo. Wake, Ba. of Lidell." Or, two bars and in 
chief three roundles gu. 

10. " Rog r Mowbray, Bar. of Axholme." Gu. a lion 
ramp. arg. 

11. "Brian fitz Allen, Bar. of Bedall." Barry of ten 
or and gu. 

12. " Raff fitz Will'ms, Bar. of grimthorp." Barry of 
six arg. and az. three chaplets gu. 

13. " Gilb't de Gaunt, Bar. of Lindsey." Barry of six 
or and az. a bend gu. 

14. " Tho. furneuall, Bar. of Sheffeld." Arg. a bend 
inter six martlets gu. 

15. " Raff Neuill, Bar. of Raby." Gu. a saltire arg. 

16. " Jo. Segraue, Bar. of Segraue." Sa. a lion ramp. 
arg. crowned gu. (? but should be or). 

17. "Rob. fitz Roger, Ba. of Clauering." Quarterly 
or and gu. a baston sa. 

18. " Waif fauconbridge, Bar. of - ." Arg. a lion 
ramp. az. and baston gobony or and gu. 

19. " Ingra' de Gynes^f Baron." Gu. a chief vair 
(potent counter potent). 

20. " Jo. de Graistock, Ba. of Morpith." Gu. three 
cushions or. 

21. " Reign old Gray, Bar. of Ruthin." Barry of six 
arg. and az. a label of three pendants gu. 

22. " Jo. de Gifford, Bar." Gu. three lions passant in 
pale arg. 

23. " Allen Pluckenet, Bar." Erm. a bend engrailed gu. 

24. " Oliuer Dinant, Bar." Gu. a fess dancettee erm. 

25. " Giles! Dawbney, Bar." Gu. four lozenges con- 
joined in fess arg. 

26. " Edm. Mortimer, Bar. of Wigmor." Barry of six 
or and az. an inescutcheon arg. and on a chief of the 
first, three pales inter two gyrons of the second. 

27. "foulk fitz Warren, Bar. of Whittington." Quar- 
terly per fess indented arg. and gu. 

28. " Pet r Corbett, Bar. of Caux." Or, a raven sa. 

29. " Geffrey Canuile, Bar." Az. three lions passant 
in pale arg. 

30. " Rog r le Strange, Bar. of Ellesmere." Gu. two 
lions passant arg. and a bordure engrailed or. 



* " Brus " in the writ (printed in Parliamentary Writs, 
vol. i. p. 51). Jenyns's Ordinary, p. 73, arms of " Regi- 
nald de Brewys," Barry of six, three bars az. and the 
other three vair gu. and erm. {i. e. same as above). 

t " Ingelram de Ghisnea " in Historic Peerage. 

J " Ulias de Albiniaco" in the writ, from which correct 
above. 

/. . Camvile. 



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31. "Rob. Tateshall, Bar. of Buckenh'm." Chequy 
or and gu. a chief erm. 

32. " Tho. Barkley, Bar. of Barkley." Gu. crusilly 
patee and a chevron arg. 

33. " Hugh Points, Bar. of Corneualeet." Barry ol 
eight gu. and or. 

34. " JS T ich. Segraue, Bar. of Stoder." Sa. a lion ramp 
arg. crowned or, and a label of three pendants gu. 

35. " Andrew Estley,* B." Arg. a lion ramp. gu. ; in 
margin "on y e shoulder a (cinquefoil tricked) or." 

36. " Hugh le Spencer, B." Quarterly arg. and gu. 
in the second and third a fret or, and over all a baston 

37. "Jo. Lovell, Bar. of Tichmarch." Barry nebulee 
of six or and gu. 

38. "Jo. de Engaine, B. of Colum." Gu. crusilly and 
a fess dancettee cr. 

39. " Raffe Pipard, Ba. of limford." Arg. two bars 
az. and on a canton of the second a cinquefoil or. 

40. "Rob. fitz Paine, B. of Lannier." Gu. two lions 
passant arg. and a bend az. 

41. " Jo. de Moelis, B. of Caudebery." Arg. two bars 
and in chief three roundles gu. 

42. " Hugh Mortimer, B. of Chilmarsh." Barry of 
six or and az. an inescutcheon voided (?)f erm. and on a 
chief of the first three pales inter two gyrons of the 
second. 

43. "Jo. Beauchamp, B. of Hach." Vair (ancient 
form). 

44. " Jo. -S l John, B. of Lageham." Arg. on a chief 
gu. two mullets, pierced, or. 

45. "Hen. de Vrtiaco, Bar." Vert, a pale or. 

46. " Will. Bruse, B. of Gower." Az. crusilly fitchy 
and a lion ramp. or. 

47. " Hugh de Placetis, B. " Arg. six annulets gu. 

48. " Rich. Basset, B. of Weldon." Or, three pales 
gu. and a bordure az. 

49. " Rauf Perrot, B." Quarterly per pale and fess 
beth indented or and az. 

50. " Jo. Gray, Bar. of Codnor." Barry of six arg. and 
az. 

51. " Tho. Moulton, Bar. of Egremond." Arg. three 
bars gu. 

52. "Philip de Darcy, Ba." Arg. three cinquefoils 

53. " Will. Mortimer, B. of Attelburgh." Or, eemee 
of fleurs-de-lis (some cut by shield) sa. 

54. " Tho. de Chaworth, B. of Norton." Barry often 
arg. and u. an orle of ten martlets sa. 

55. " Raff de frechuile, B. of Staly." Az. a bend inter 
six escallops arg. 

56. " Rich, de Draicott, B." Paly of six arg. and gu. 
a bend erm. 

57. " Tho. de Wahull, B." Or, three crescents gu. 

58. " Osbert de Gifford, B." ..., three lions passant 
in pale ..., and a label of three pendants ... 

59. " Gyles de Plais, Bar." Per pale or and gu. a lion 
passant arpr. 

60. " Geffrey de Lucy, B. of Cokermouth." Gu. three 
lucies hauriant arg. two and one. 

61. "Will, do Cressy, B." Arg. a lion ramp, tail 
forked pa. 

62. "Me. de Menill, B. of Warleton." Az. two bars 
gemelles and a chief or. 

63. "Jo. de Lancaster, B. of Grisedale." Arg. two 
bars gu. and on a canton of the second a cinquefoil or 

64. "Math. fitz[John.J 



printed " Eleya " (in error 1) in Parliamentary Writs. 
"" rle -^ing, as though 



J The restoration of name of Matthew Fitz-John is 



65. John fitz] Renold, B. of Blenleny." Gu. three 
lions ramp. or. 

66. " Will' de Neirford, B." Gu. a lion ramp. erm. 

67. "Will, de ferrers, B. of Groby." Gu. seyen 
mascles conjoined 3, 3, and 1, or. 

68. "Hen. de Pinckney, B. of Wedon." Or, five fusils 
conjoined in fess gu. 

69. " Jo. de Marmion, Bar." Vair (ancient form), a 
fess gu. 

70. " Theobald de Verdon, Bar. of Elton." Or, frettee 

71. " Jo. de Wigton,* B." Sa. three mullets within 
a bordure engrailed or. 

72. "Rog r de Hontingfeld, B. of Bradenham." Or, 
on a fess gu. three roundles arg. 

73. " Rob. fitz Walter, B. of Woodham."f Or, a fees 
inter two chevrons gu. 

74. " Regnold de Argentine, Bar." Gu. crusilly fitchy 
and three covered cups arg. 

75. " Rob. de Hilton, B. of Hilton." Arg. two bars az. 

76. " Jordan folliot, B." Gu. a bend arg. 

77. " Will, de Bottelor, B. of Warrington." Az. a 
bend inter six covered cups or. 

78. Nich. de Criell, B." Gu. a chief or. 

79. " Nich. de Audley, B. of Heligh." Gu. a fret or. 

80. "Jo. ab Adam, B. of Beuerston." ..., on a cross 
... five mullets ... 

81. " Jo. Tregois, B. of Garinges."t Az. two bars 
gemelles and in chief a lion passant or. 

K ts CALLED AS ASSISTANTS TO T c SAME PARLIAMENT, 
BEING NO BARONS. 

82. " S r Rog r de Brabazon." Gu. on a bend arg. three 
martlets sa. 

83. " S r Will, de Bereford." Arg. crusilly fitchy and 
three fleurs-de-lis sa. 

84. " S r Peter Malorey." Or, a lion ramp, tail forked 

85. " S r John de Licheger." Arg. on each of three 
chevrons sa. five roundles or. 

86. "S r Jo. de Cobh a m." Gu. on a chevron or three 
lions ramp. sa. 

87. " S r Adam de Crokedayke." Erm. three roundles sa. 

88. "S r Henr. de Enefeld." ..., an escutcheon gu. 
within an orle of martlets ... 

89. "S r John de Bosco." Sa. crusilly and three leo- 
pards' faces or. 

90. " S r Roger[| de Knovill." Arg. three mullets of six 
points, pierced, gu. 



made from the writ, in which it immediately precedes 
that of John Fitz-Reginald. Sir Edward Dering has 
only the name and arms of Matthew Fitz-Reginald, which 
;s clearly an error of transcription, and no doubt due to 
:iis having mixed up the two entries. Owing to this oc- 
currence we are minus the arms given to Matthew Fitz- 
John in the original Roll. 

* "Whityngton"inwrit,but"Johan de Wigketone," 
Baron, in " Parliamentary" Roll; same arms. 
" de Daventre " in writ. 

J Read "Goring" (co. Sussex). 

"Lythegr"' (i. e. Lythepraynes) in writ, from which 
t is evident that either Sir Edward, or the original com- 
piler of the Roll, took the old t for c. The above arms 
seem, however, to be those of 1'Ercedekne or Arch- 
leacon ; Jenyns's Ordinary, p. 75, gives to " Thomas 
'Erchediacre " (Erchediacne, blundered) the same 
arms, i. e. arg. three chevrons sa. bezantee. According 
to the same authority (p. 85) the arms of " John Lithe- 
graynes " were, rather, Gu. an orle arg. and (i. e. over 
all) a bend or. 

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91. " S r Will'm Inge." Or, a chevron vert. 

92. " S r John de Insula." Or, a fesa inter two chev- 
rons sa. 

93. " S r Will'm Haward."* Gu. a bend inter six cross 
crosslets fitchy arg. 

94. "S r Henr. Spigurnell." Gu. two bars gemelles 
and in chief a lion passant or. 

JAMES GREENSTREET. 



SHAKSPEAKIANA. 

BLACK OUZEL (5 th S. iv. 284, 446.) Surely 
W. E.'s supposition is right. Miss Silence was a 
charming brunette, and the old justice did not 
care to have her flattered too much. MR. GUY'S 
remark, that " the blackbird is known to be a soli- 
tary bird," I must venture to question. There are 
talf-a-dozen of them, male and female, on my 
lawn as I write, tugging away at the worms where 
-the snow has thawed a little. You scarcely ever 
see an orange-tawny-billed cock without his beauti- 
ful brown hen following him. They are most tame 
and familiar birds when their acquaintance is cul- 
tivated, and will make nests in the same place 
ibr years together. One pair brought up two 
broods of four in the fork of a laurel last summer, 
and I believe there were two other pairs in other 
parts of the garden ; at any rate, whoever had seen 
the young merles all a-flutter on the grass, while 
the old cocks called them to be fed, would never 
call the blackbird solitary. The word merula is 
doubtless a diminutive of mcra; but Yarro gives 
the reason by it the blackbird was distinguished 
from his sable rival the jackdaw " Sola volitat, 
uti graculi. gregatim." Some birds fly in flocks, 
-others in pairs ; but there is nothing about the 
black ouzel to give him the special "attribute of 
-solitariness. It would apply just as well to the 
song-thrush or the robin. 

No ; W. E.'s explanation is simple and clear. 
Indeed, I have never supposed that Silence meant 
anything else. Of course the black howlet is a 
myth. MORTIMER COLLINS. 

Knowl Hill, Berks. 

"House-doves are white, and oozels blackebirds bee." 
The Affectionate Sliepheard, 1594. 

In the central and northern districts of York- 
-shire " oozle," or " uzzle," and " black oozle," or 
41 black uzzle," are common names for the black- 
bird. 

But black oozle, or black uzzle, is also, or was, 
some thirty years ago, often heard, at least about 
York, as a vulgar epithet for a dark-visaged 
person, particularly a female, precisely in the 
manner in which it is used by Shakspeare in the 
passage in question : thus we hear of " A black 
oozle," "She's a black uzzle," "Thou black 
uzzle." 

* So also in writ. " Parliamentary " Roll ; arms of 
" Johan Hauward " (Howard) of co. Norfolk, Gu. cru- 
silly and a bend arg. (i. e. same as above ]). 



The allusion in Shakspeare is not to the habits 
or character of the blackbird as solitary, suspicious, 
and shy, as some of your correspondents have sup- 
posed, but simply to its colour. Shallow's de- 
scription of Ellen as " Your fairest daughter and 
mine " is taken up by Silence ironically : " Alas, a 
black ouzel, Master Shallow." H. W. 0. 

" BUSYLESS," Tempest, iii. 1 (5 th S. iv. 181, 365.) 
MR. J. BEALE writes on this word as if it were 
in the text of Shakspeare, which it is not. It 
will be time enough to consider his suggestion that 
"Ferdinand's 'busy- less' matches Miranda's 
' skill-less,' " when we know that such a word as 
" busy-less " ever existed. For myself, I do not 
believe in its possibility. " Skill-less " is naturally 
formed from a substantive ; so is " kindless," 
" matchless," &c. When and where did privatives 
(in less) formed from adjectives appear in English 
literature ? All we know about this monster, 
" busy-less," is that Theobald was its progenitor, 
and that it first appeared in Theobald's duodecimo 
edition of Shakspeare. 

Somewhere in " N. & Q." (if I remember right) 
EDEN WARWICK defends "busy-less," on the 
ground that " busy " is there a verb. But that 
does not mend the matter a jot. Such privatives 
were, indeed, made from verbs transitive, which 
" busy " is not. 

I really think we ought, by this time, to have 
heard the last of Theobald's illegitimate issue, 
which is "neither flesh, nor fowl, nor good red- 
herring." JABEZ. 

Athenasum Club. 



EARTHWORKS INEPPING FOREST. In"N.&Q.," 
4 th S. x. 295, under the above title, you pub- 
lished a communication of mine, intimating that I 
had met with traces of ancient earthworks in the 
neighbourhood of Loughton, and requesting informa- 
tion. The replies (p. 395) confounded my discovery 
with Ambresbury Banks, a mile and a half further 
north. Will you now allow me to chronicle the 
fact that I have recently repeatedly investigated 
these relics of antiquity, and that Mr. W. D'Oyley 
of Loughton has, in the exercise of a most praise- 
worthy zeal, surveyed the place, and made a plan 
of it to scale ? Essex archaeologists will be glad 
to hear of this addition to their list of ancient re- 
mains, and will, I hope, give to it the attention 
which it deserves. The Trinobantes, if they con- 
structed it, were born engineers, as the site is ad- 
mirable. The camp occupies a sort of promontory, 
overlooking a deep valley, running from the foot 
of High Beech to near Loughton. From Loughton 
it is easily accessible to pedestrians, but it is 
nearer to the Epping road, east of a point half a 
mile beyond the Robin Hood. The camp consisted 
of a ditch and embankment, enclosing a space 
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tour of the surface. The outer circumference i 
about 750 yards. The whole is now overgrow 
with forest,* but at this season is easily perambu 
lated. The ground outside the northern division 
has been a good deal dug into pits, and the oute 
slope on the south shows traces of ancient work 
Mr. D'Oyley tells me that, at some distance to thi 
east, there are sundry mounds ; but my own re 
searches in that quarter have not been quite s< 
successful. Allow me to add that the gentleman 
I have named has executed for the Corporation o 
London a map of the forest, in which, for the firs 
time, the site of this camp is indicated. The 
ground forms part of the manor of Loughton, anc 
is included in the enclosure made by the lord o:" 
that manor. Happily there is reason to believe 
that it is now safe, and will escape the fate which 
threatened it. From a map in my possession ] 
gather that a Roman road, running north frorr 
Stratford, passed very near the camp. 

B. H. COWPER. 

MRS. DINGLEY. In most lives of Swift, and in 
most accounts of Esther Johnson, or Stella, it is 
usual to speak of her great friend Eebecca Dingley 
as a distant relation of the Temple family. I am 
not aware, however, that any one has taken the 
trouble to try and find out what that relationship 
was. In the hope of settling this point, I desire 
to make the following suggestions. Sir John 
Temple, the father of Sir William, married Mary, 
daughter of Dr. Hammond of Chertsey, and, 
therefore, sister of the celebrated Henry Hammond, 
D.D. According to A. a Wood, Ath. Or., another 
daughter of this Dr. John Hammond of Chertsey 
married Sir John Dingley, Knight, of London. 
From this it would appear that Sir John Din^ley 
was the uncle of Sir William Temple. 

In some deeds relating to the Ormonde family, 
in my possession, there are records of a mortgage 
of lauds in Ireland, from the Duke (then Earl) to Sir 
John Temple, in 1039. The money thus advanced 
is stated, in 1655, to belong to John Dindey Esq 
of Wolverton, in the Isle of Wight, and his son' 
John Dingley ; and in 1677 to be the property of 
Sir John Dingley and his son, John Dingley, Esq. 
then of King Street, Westminster. Other deeds' 
show that this John Dingley, Esq., had a son 
described as John Dingley, Gent., to whom the 
mortgage money was repaid prior to 1680. Here 
then, there are three John Dingleys, the knight' 
the esquire, and the gent. ; and the question" is' 
which of these was the father of Rebecca Dingley? 
bir John Dingley had a second son, Robert 
Dingley, Kector of Brightestone, alias Brixton, in 
the Isle of Wight, the living of which he obtained 
through the interest of his kinsman, Colonel Robert 
Hammond, governor of the island. He died in 
o9 and is buried in the church at Brixton, but 
does not mention that he had any children 



Sir John Dingley's two sons appear to have been? 
born about 1615-20, whilst Rebecca Dingley is 
said to have been born about 1665. Hence she 
might have been either a daughter of his son John 
Dingley, Esq., or of his grandson John Dingley,. 
Gent. EDWARD SOLLY. 

Sutton, Surrey. 

THE WOULFES OF LIMERICK. In Ferrar's His- 
tory of Limerick may be seen the articles of 
October 27, 1651, entered into "between Henry 
Ireton, the Deputy General," and " Commissioners 
on behalf of the mayor and inhabitants/'* by which 
the city capitulated to the Parliament and Com- 
monwealth of England. I. The first article pro- 
vided for delivering up the city, castle, and all 
places of strength, leaving hostages for its perfor- 
mance. 

" II. In consideration of which all persons now in the- 
city shall have their lives and properties, except the fol- 
lowing, who opposed and restrained the deluded people- 
from accepting the terms so often offered to them." 

Amongst those excepted appear the following 
names : " Captain George Woulfe and Francis 
Woulfe, a friar. ;; It further appears that the friar 
afterwards suffered by the hands of the executioner. 
We are also informed by the author, " I. Ferrar r 
Citizen of Limerick," that 

" Captain George Woulfe, of the city of Limerick, was 
proscribed by General Ireton for his attachment to the 
Royal cause. He fled to the North of England, where 
he settled, and his grandson, General Edward Woulfe, 
was appointed Colonel of the 8th Regiment of Foot in 
the year 1745. He transmitted his virtues with addi- 
tional lustre to his son, Major-General James Woulfe. 
whose memory will be ever dear to his country, and 
whose name will be immortalized in history, "f 

As there is not in our military history, at least of" 
the last century, a name so deservedly celebrated 
as that of General James Woulfe, to whose energy 
nd enterprise the British Empire is indebted for 
;he conquest and annexation of the Province (now 
;he Dominion) of Canada, perhaps some of your 
numerous correspondents may furnish more precise 
details of his ancestry. 

During the present century, Stephen Woulfe, 
a Roman Catholic barrister, with whom the writer 
vas intimately acquainted, was raised to the 
rank of Lord Chief Baron of the Irish Court 
f Exchequer. Endowed with splendid abilities,, 
nd possessing great eloquence, if he had lived he 
vould have proved an eminent ornament to the 
udicial Bench ; but he was in delicate health, and 
lid not long survive his elevation. The Chief 
Baron, who was said to have descended from the- 
ame family, left sisters and issue. B. W. 

CELTIC AND SANSCRIT. MR. WALTER SKEAT- 
nd some other correspondents have done really 
ood service to literature and common sense by 



* Limerick, 1787, p. 55. 



t Hid., p. 350. 



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their remarks in " N. & Q." and the Athenceum 
on certain attempts to trace many English words 
to alleged Celtic roots. When once Vallancey 
had set the fashion, philologers vied with each 
It other in chopping up into syllables all sorts ol 
I words, and, by arbitrary interchanges of vowels 
Hand consonants, forced so-called etymologies. 
! This system of elaborate punning reached the 
I acme of absurdity in Betham's Etruria Celtica 
|| and has again culminated in the Lost Beauties of 
the English Language, and the ingenious interpre- 
tations of " Eaderatoo " and " Gramercy." Now, 
while such extravagances of pseudo-philologicaJ 
Keltomania compel one to cry out, " Quousque 
tandem?" may not the frequent references of 
European languages to Sanscrit be open to similar 
animadversions, and may not all the theories oi 
ethnological affinities, tracing our descent from 
Aryan or Turanian ancestry, be equally baseless ? 

S. T. P. 



[We must request correspondents desiring information 
on family matters of only private interest, to affix their 
names and addresses to their queries, in order^ that the 
answers may be addressed to them direct.] 

THE LORDSHIP OF BROMFIELD AND YALE. 
Will you allow me to put a query relative to a 
district in North Wales of some historical interest, 
namely, the lordship of Bromfield and Yale, men- 
tioned in O'Callaghan's History of the Irish 
Brigades, pp. 66-71 ? 

After having given a minute detail of the almost 
incredible iniquity connected with the confiscation 
of the McCarthy estates in Ireland in favour of 
William Bentinck, afterwards created Baron of 
"Cirencester, Viscount Woodstock, and Earl of 
Portland, to the extent of 135,820 acres, subse- 
quently resumed by Parliament, he mentions this 
lordship of Bromfield and Yale as having been 
also conferred on Bentinck, though in the actual 
possession of the Grosvenor family ; or rather 
the minerals, the far more valuable part, which 
grant the king was obliged to withdraw. Now it 
appears, as we learn from Pennant, that the lord- 
ship itself was granted in 1281 to John, Earl 
Warren, and passed to his descendants till the 
Teign of Henry VII., by whom it was granted to 
Sir William Stanley, after whose execution it 
was resumed. Henry VIII. bestowed it on Henry 
Fitzroy, Duke of Eichmond, his natural son, in 
1534. In the following reign it came into pos- 
session of Thomas Seymour, brother to the Pro- 
tector Somerset, whose execution "again flung 
Bromfield into the possession of the Crown." In 
the reign of Elizabeth Pennant supposes it to have 
teen in possession of the great Earl of Leicester ; 
'but in 1643 it was again in the hands of the 
Crown. It appears, however, by an ancient deed 



in the possession of querist, bearing date 1627, 
that certain lands comprised therein were con- 
veyed to Hugh Jones, of Eyton, in the county of 
Denbigh, by Sir John Walter and Sir Thomas 
Trevor, Barons of the Exchequer, and Sir James 
Fullerton, Gentleman of the Bedchamber to 
James I., as joint patentees, deriving under his 
most Sacred Majesty ; and the question arises how 
it became alienated from them, or their heirs be- 
tween 1627 and 1643, at which time it was again 
vested in the Crown. 

Also, is there any record of the grant made to 
the aforesaid parties viz., Sir John Walter, Sir 
Thomas Trevor, and Sir James Fullerton as 
recited in the deed of 1627 ? HUGO N. JONES. 

Ballyconway House, Kilkenny County. 

GARNETT FAMILY. Can any of your correspon- 
dents give me information concerning this family ? 
The Rev. William Garnett was born about the 
year 1760, near Richmond, in Yorkshire, though 
I have not found the certificate of his birth. He 
bore arms, Az., three griffins' heads, erased, or, 
quartering Grey. In the Harleian MSS. there is 
a short pedigree of four descents, beginning with 
James Garnett of Blasterfield, in Westmoreland, 
who had a son Lorance Garnett of Egglescliffe, 
whose son Anthony Garnett of Egglescliffe had a 
son John Garnett, a captain of horse in the Royal 
army, temp. Charles I. Now Egglescliffe is close 
to Richmond, and the Rev. William Garnett being 
born there, and bearing the same arms as these 
Garnetts, shows, I think, that he must have come 
of the same family. I think the pedigree is to be 
traced to a very remote period, for Burke's Ar- 
mory spells the name in four different ways, 
giving the same arms to each : Garnett, Garnet, 
Garnatt, Gurnut, az., three griffins' heads, erased, 
or. This is proof of antiquity. 

Geoffery Garnett, of Garnetts and Merks, in 
Essex, was living in the year 1165, and Garnetts 
and Merks remained in his family till about 1350. 
What arms he bore I do not know ; but I wish to 
connect him, if possible, with the Egglescliffe 
Garnets, and the Egglescliffe Garnetts with the 
Rev. William Garnett. I read in some county 
history that the chancel of Pentlow Church, Essex, 
was called Garnett's chancel because it contained 
monuments of that family. W. G. TAUNTON. 

THE REV. WILLIAM BLAXTON, of Emanuel 
College, Cambridge, in 1617, came to New Eng- 
and about 1623, and fixed his habitation in Shaw- 

mut, now Boston, being the first European dweller 

on the site of the future metropolis of New Eng- 
and. In 1635 he removed further into the 

wilderness, taking up his abode within the present 
imits of Rhode Island, and thereby became the 
irst European inhabitant of that State. He was a 

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exercise his ministerial functions in these Puritan 
realms. He was an agent for Gorges, and also for 
the Council for New England, and died in Rhode 
Island in 1675. Nothing whatever is known of 
the English ancestry of this distinguished man. 
In what part of England did the name Blaxton 
obtain in the reign of James I. ? 

C. W. TUTTLE. 
Boston, U.S.A. 

"PERSONA," DERIVATION OF. In reading 
Ewald's Lehre tier Bibel von Gott, I find (ii. 107) 
the following note on the derivation of the Lat. 
persona from the Gr. prosdpon : 

" It IB acknowledged that there are several other 
Latin words which have suffered the same fate : and the 
object (Sache) of thia transition of letters [i. e. p to n\ 
is so peculiar that it ought at some time to be specially 
investigated. As for persona, by this pronunciation they 
evidently avoided the double p of a persupa ; and the 
transition is most easily explained if the word in the first 
place as denoting an artistic object (Sache), ?'. e. a 'niatk, 
came with this object itself to the Romans from the 
Greeks, perhaps through the Etruscans." 

As the professor's argument depends very much 
on the mode of thought of which this derivation is 
offered as a proof, I am tempted to ask whether 
the matter has been " specially investigated," and, 
if so, with what result. JOHN FENTON, Jun. 

Elm Tree House, Hampstead Green, N.W. 

S. JOHNSON, M.A., 1786. I shall be much 
obliged for any information regarding the author 
of the following poem : 

"A Poetical Epistle to Thomas Ince, Esq., of Crls- 
tleton, near Chester. By S. Johnson, A.M. Shrews- 
bury: Printed and Sold by P. Sandford, Bookseller. 
MDCCIXXXVI." 4to. Preface, ii pp. ; Epistle, 20 pp. 

In the Preface the author writes as follows : 

" The unfortunate loss of a very valuable friend, at a 
very critical juncture, having of necessity shut up his 
only avenue to preferment in the Church, his devotion 
to his school will, if possible, be more earnest and uniform 
than ever. He is happy in declaring that his employment, 
however irksome it may appear to many, is by long habit 
far from being so to himself," &c. 

At the. end of the Preface is an advertisement 
to the following effect : 

"Mr. Johnson takes this opportunity of giving public 
information that he shall again offer his boys to a strict 
examination at the close of the year/' &c. 

I draw particular attention to these extracts 
with a view of ascertaining if the author is to be 
identified or connected in any way with the <*reat 
lexicographer. J. P . EARWAKER. 

Alderley Edge, Cheshire. 

FAMILIES OF WOODWARD AND CHINN The 

crest of the Woodwards of Warwickshire, Glouces- 
tershire, &c. on a crest coronet or, a greyhound 
sejant argent-is also borne by the family of 
Unnn m the last-named county. Was there any 
connexion between these families ? I am inclined 



to suspect that the crest was assumed by the- 
Chinns from such a connexion, as the motto used 
with it, " Aquila non captat muscas," is appropriate 
enough in connexion with the Woodward arms 
(Az. a pall betw. two eagles disp. arg.), but has no 
allusion to either crest or arms (Barry of six vaire 
and gu.) of the Chinns. J. WOODWARD. 

" CAMPING." What is known of this old Eng- 
lish game 1 It was, I have heard (or read), a 
rough kind of football. It was evidently a game 
of much importance in Cambridgeshire, Norfolk, 
and Suffolk, as there are enclosures in many vil- 
lages which still retain the name of " camping 
close." HENRY C. LOFTS. 

WILLIAM ATTE MAWE flourished at Yarmouth 
in the fourteenth century. What is Mawe 1 Is 
it the name of a town or village, or is it a local 
name for some natural object ? A. 0. V. P. 

J. S. MILL. Has the memorial which Stuart 
Mill prepared for the East India Company as a 
plea against their abolition (and which was said 
to be the best state paper that had been written 
for a generation) ever been published in an ac- 
cessible form I CYRIL. 

LADY FENHOULHET. I have an engraving, by 
Ardell, of this lady, painted by Sir Joshua Rey- 
nolds. Who was she 'I T. J. BENNETT. 

THE GIANT MOULINEAU. 

"The Giant's appeal to his friend the story-telling 
Ram may well be remembered here : ' Belier, mon 
ami, si tu voulois (voudrois 1 ?) commencer par le com- 
mencement, tu me ferois grand plaisir. '" Southey's 
Doctor, chap. ii. p. 1. 

Where is the story of the Giant and the Earn to 
be found ? H. K. 

" THE CONVERSION OF THE BRITONS." Between 
the years 1770 and 1779 Mortimer, a pupil of 
Hudson, obtained the first prize from the Society 
for the Encouragement of Arts for his historical 
picture of the " Conversion of the Britons."' 
Where is that picture 1 S. N. 

Hyde. 

"SPIDER" TABLE. 

" ' Well, Harry,' said my uncle, when the servants had' 
left the room, and we drew over the spider table to the 
fire to discuss our wine with comfort, ' what good wind 
has blown you down to me, my boy V " Lever's Harry- 
Lorreijuer. 

What is a spider table ? JOHN W. BONE. 

BOGUE, BOOKSELLER TEMP. ELIZABETH. I 
am anxious to obtain some information concerning 
a certain Bogue, a bookseller, in the reign of 
Queen Elizabeth, who was suspected of being con- 
cerned in the publication of the Martin Marprelate 
tracts. He is referred to in Larwood and Hotten's- 



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History of Signboards, as having carried on busi 
ness in St. Paul's Churchyard at the sign of th 
Rose and Crown. Any other references or infor 
mation concerning his publications will be verj 
acceptable. DAVID BOGUE. 

BIDING THE STANG. Can any of your reader 
inform me what is the origin of this custom ? 

W. G. T. 
Oxford. 

SURRAGE FAMILY. Whence came the Surrag( 
family of the West of England? The name i 
probably French. Is the name found in the lis 
of Huguenot refugees? Where may such a lis 
be seen ? H. BOWER. 

AUSTIN = EVELYN-. In the latter half of the 
last century a Miss Evelyn married a Mr., or Cap- 
tain, Austin, against the wishes of her relations 
Her husband was killed at Quebec. Is anything 
known of him ? To what branch of the Evelyns 
did his wife belong? F. D. K. 

GAIR INNIS, MORBIHAN. When the tumulus 
of Gair Innis, Morbihan, was opened, was a frag- 
ment of one of the carved stones of the passage 
found broken off, and was this fragment carved 
on all sides ? C. E. P. 

' THE HUNDRED GUILDER PRINT." I possess, 
ramed, and in good condition, a print with the 
following inscription on the back : 

" This print is called The Hundred Guilder Print, 
owing to the circumstance of all the impressions pub 
lished by Captain Parry, of which this is esteemed one 
of the best, having been sold for no less than that sum 
each, being equal to SI. 15s. English money. 3rd Novem- 
ber, 1791. E. S. F." 

This print has been from that date in the 
possession of the same family. I shall be glad to 
have some account of the history of this rarity, 
and some idea of its value. M. E. F. 

THE PROTESTANT CATHEDRALS OF HOLLAND. 
Can any one give me a complete list of these ? 

M. D. D. 

CHARLES LAMB once jocosely said that he could 
not stand the three bald women of his day. Who 
were they ? I can remember only Mrs. Inchbald 
and Mrs. Barbauld. CURIO. 

FOOL, IN " GOOSEBERRT-FOOL." Florio, in his 
Worldeof Wordes, 1598, has "Man%Zm,akindeof 
clouted creame called a foole or a trifle in English." 
Can any reader furnish an earlier instance of fool 
or trifle in this sense ? F. J. F. 

HERALDIC. I should be glad if I could obtain 
any information respecting the following arms : 
Arms, a quarterly of six 1st, Argent, a chevron 
or ; in chief, 2 cross crosslets fitchee, also argent ; 



2nd, Or, a lion rampant or ; 3rd, Arg., a chevron 
between three lozenges argent ; 4th, Arg., a lion 
rampant or ; 5th as 3rd ; 6th as 1st. Crests 1st, 
A demi-lion rampant or, grasping a cross crosslet 
fitchee arg. in its dexter paw ; 2nd, A demi-lion 
rampant or, grasping an annulet arg. in its dexter 
paw. Motto" Pax quseritur bello." 

E. F. M. WALKER. 

THE DERIVATION OF STILTON, GLATTON, AND 
CONNINGTON. In an account of an entertainment 
of readings with music, given at Stilton, Hunting- 
donshire, and reported in the Peterborough Adver- 
tiser, January 15, is the following passage : 

" The Rev. C. Gibbon, Rector of Lutton, explained to 
the audience what he believed to be the origin of the 
names Stilton, Glatton, and Connington. The first he 
regarded as a contraction from Steep-hill-town, and glat 
in Glatton he thought bore the same relation to glat as 
glow to flow, and that it denoted a more rapid motion of 
the water down the hills than through the flat lands of 
the fens ; and con in Connington came from the meeting 
together of two streamlets on their way to the fens." 

Perhaps the Eector of Lutton was merely per- 
petrating an elaborate joke at the expense of 
his audience ; but, if not, will some reader of 
" N. & Q." kindly put him right as to the deriva- 
tion of the three words and their several 

KOOTS ? 

PRIVILEGES OF EEGIMENTS. My tailor tells 
me that there is only one regiment that is per- 
mitted to wear shirt collars, but he cannot recollect 
the number, or the reason for this privilege. Can 
any military reader supply this information 1 

CLARRT. 



BOOKBINDING. 
(5 th S. iv. 366, 472.) 

I am very glad this subject has found its way into 
' N. & Q." Binding is a very interesting question 
X3r the man with an ornamental library, for in it he 
;an display alike money and taste. I think books 
should be bound with a regard to their subjects. 
A.nyhow, there is a delightful sensation in handling 
i beautifully bound book ; and a large library in 
ich and appropriate bindings is a noble sight. 

But I suspect the question is one of much 
greater practical importance to the owners of large 
working libraries ; to the literary man, who has to 
make constant use of his books, and has to keep 
>ace with periodical literature, the publications of 
he learned societies, and the so-called blue-books 
ssued by the different departments of the Govern- 
ment, and, lastly, pamphlets. Here he has a large 
mass of unbound material, which, if it be essential 
o his plans to preserve, will land him in a con- 
iderable periodical expenditure. To such a man 
he ordinary methods of binding are of no avaiL 



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He requires at once an economic, an effective, and 
a rapid mode of getting his stores put into form 
for preservation and reference. 

Our working libraries are formed by degrees ; 
first hundreds, then thousands, and finally, as in 
my own case, tens of thousands. When my library 
was yet in its infancy, I began a system which 
answered very well up to a certain point. I had 
my books bound cheaply, but strongly, in cloth of 
certain colours, in relation to the subject-matter of 
the book. Thus, general statistics, brown ; vital 
statistics, red ; periodical literature, green ; his- 
tory, roan ; currency, amber ; chronology, buff ; 
parliamentary papers, blue ; pamphlets, black. 

In course of time I adopted, almost from neces- 
sity, the method of classifying my library into 
subjects, and then, behold, the colour-element, 
which had been so useful for distinction previously, 
became inconvenient from its very sameness. 
Large masses of binding of the same shade present 
no landmarks. I then introduced changes of 
colour into each division, as follows : vital sta- 
tistics works relating to England and Wales, 
red (crimson) ; to Scotland, blue (dark) ; to Ire- 
land, green (emerald) ; to the continent of Europe, 
buff ; to the United States, brown ; to India, 
yellow (bright). This is answering very well, 
excepting always some confusion from the pre- 
ceding plan. Books in publishers' boards of course 
interfere with the general plan. I suppose it is 
hopeless that publishers should ever agree to any 
general classification of subjects by colour. 

The question of the materials for binding a 
working library is important. Cloth is the 
cheapest, but cloth binding for books much used 
gets shabby ; and since I moved my library 
from the country to London, another difficulty has 
come about. One of the rooms devoted to my 
books is over the kitchen ; the cockchafers have 
come through the chinks of the floor or the fire- 
place, and they have attacked all my books newly 
bound in red cloth, and some of those in green, 
and quite disfigured them, even eating, or rather 
sucking, through the gold lettering. Do they get 
attracted by the paste used, or what is it 1 And 
what is the remedy ? I have used powdered borax, 
placing it on the shelves at the back of the books. 
I he damage has been less since. 

Leather half- binding looks the neatest, and cer- 
tainly brings out the lettering more distinctly than 
cloth ; but then it is liable to two evils gas and 
mice. Regarding the destruction by gas in libra- 
ries, reference may be made to the Report of the 
Select Parliamentary Committee on Public Li- 
braries, 1850, or practical demonstration obtained 
by going to the library of the London Institution, 
binsbury Circus. Mice may be kept down by 
; but then which of the two is the neater 
evil m a working library, where the floor, Ss well 
i the shelves, has to be constantly occupied ? I 



intend to try vellum backs and corners, as your 
correspondent, J. T. R., suggests. A cheap form 
of Roxburghe binding I have been adopting of late. 

Regarding the lettering of the backs of books, 
there is a good deal to be said. Who that ever 
saw it can forget that quaint pamphlet by John 
Tapling, " at 420 on the Strand," Folious Appear- 
ances : a Consideration of our Ways of Lettering 
Booh, 1854? Poor John Tapling! Wlien the 
Pacific went down in the Atlantic a few years later, 
there was extinguished a shining light amongst 
booksellers of the literary type. Why do pub- 
lishers persist in putting the titles on the sides, 
where they are no use, and leave the backs of 
books, which are alone seen in libraries, bare ? 
Every book should have its short title, its authors 
name, and its date, in plain letters, on its back ; if 
there be not sufficient room across, then right up 
and down, beginning at the bottom and running 
towards the top. If more than one edition, then 
which edition should be also stated. The value of 
chronological arrangement in regard to subjects is 
at present comparatively little understood. 

Finally, a word as to pamphlets. The best 
mode of dealing with these is always a puzzle. 
I have found classification of subjects the only 
available remedy in my own case. Thus, I have 
" Currency No. 1, 1844 to 1846," and so on. But 
if you miss any and many are privately printed 
and cannot be got by purchase then the system 
is misleading. Of this I am certain, that no 
greater mistake can be pursued than that of bind- 
ing up pamphlets on mixed subjects in volumes. 
I shall be glad to learn how your other corre- 
spondents manage. Vellum backs, on which you 
can write the short titles, do very well for small 
collections. 

I should like to add " a parting damn " to all 
bookbinders who ruin books and pamphlets alike, 
by cutting them down to within an inch of their 
lives. This, where not an inherent vice, is done 
to save boards and leather or cloth. A cheap 
material suggests a remedy as against the latter 
motive. CORNELIUS WALFORD. 

86, Belsize Park Gardens. 

Much very curious and valuable information on 
the subject of ornamental bookbinding will be 
found in M. Libri's letter to Messrs. Leigh, Sotheby, 
& Wilkinson, prefixed to the Catalogue of the 
choice portion of his magnificent library, sold by 
them August 1, 1859, and twelve following days. 

J. MACRAY. 



" LAST OF THE STUARTS " : LADY LOUISA 
STUART (5 S. iv. 484, 524.) An article appeared 
at the former reference from a correspondent who 
called attention to the fact that the Glasgow Even- 
ing Citizen, in recording the death of Lady Louisa 
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her as the " last descendant " of the Stuarts ; and 
that the Times of December 9, 1875, spoke of 
the Count of Albany as the " last of the Stuarts." 
A note appended to the communication explained 
the claim for almost centenarian honour, put for- 
ward on behalf of the venerable lady, by saying 
that she was represented as having been born on 
March 20, 1776 ; whereas, according to Kearsley's 
Peerage (1796), she was born on August 16, 1784, 
making her only ninety-one at the time of her 
death. This called forth a communication from 
C. G. H., who seeks to show, from the Book of 
Carlaverodc, which is a history of the Maxwell 
family, and other documents of a similar character, 
that Lady Louisa was really born on March 20, 
1776 ; and, in a few words introducing this com- 
munication, it is said that Kearsley "is an authority 
not to be relied upon." I am not yet sure that 
Lady Louisa's case will convict Kearsley of in- 
accuracy. I shall be sorry if it should not, for I 
had hopes I had found in Lady Louisa that rara 
avis, a centenarian member of the aristocracy. 

I have a copy of Kearsley, which its former 
owner had had interleaved, and which contains 
some MS. additions, unfortunately but few in 
number, and none relating to the subject of this 
note. But Kearsley seems to have been very 
carefully prepared ; and I began to doubt whether 
this statement, published when the lady was so 
young (at most twenty, but more possibly only 
twelve), could be wrong. I thought I would turn 
to the Annual Register, and see what light it 
would throw upon the date of Lady Louisa's birth, 
which in Douglas's Peerage of Scotland, a great 
authority, and in all modern peerages, is given as 
March 20, 1776. All these authorities agree, 
moreover, that there were only two children, viz., 
a son and a daughter. 

On referring to the index to the Annual Regis- 
ter, I found that the marriage of Lord Linton to 
Miss Ravenscroft was duly recorded in vol. xvi., 
that is for the year 1773. I could find no record 
of the birth of any child of that marriage in 1776, 
nor until after the lady became, by the death of her 
husband's father, Countess of Traquair. The index 
shows the birth of a son is recorded in vol. xxiii. 
(it should be xxiv.), for the year 1781, which son 
was the late earl ; and in vol. xxvii., namely, for 
1784, the birth of another child, but does not, as in 
the preceding case, describe the child as a son. So 
I concluded that Kearsley was right' after all, and 
Lady Louisa was born in 1784, and not in 1776. 
A very natural conclusion, as the reader will 
admit, but which I am bound to say was not 
borne out by subsequent inquiries. 

When I turned to the Annual Register for 1784, 
vol. xxvii. p. 210, 1 read, under the date of July 15, 
" The Countess of Traquair, of a son." This was 
an obvious misprint, because all the peerages, 
including Kearsley, tell us that the earl had but 



two children, one son and one daughter, for which, 
also, there is the high authority of Douglas. 

But, before sending you this correction, I 
thought it right to refer to the Gentleman's Maga- 
zine, and, to my great surprise, I found it agreeing 
in every respect with the Annual Register in re- 
cording Lord Linton's marriage, in its silence as 
to the birth of any issue of such marriage till 1781, 
and then the birth of a son, followed by that of a 
second son in 1784. 

I then turned to the Scots Magazine, and in the 
volume for 1784 found it stated that the Countess 
of Traquair had given birth to a son in London on 
the 29th (not 15th) of July. But I found more ; 
for, on referring to that magazine for 1776, 1 found 
(what is not recorded either in the Gentleman's 
Magazine or Annual Register) that on March 20, 
1776, Lady Linton gave birth to a daughter at 
Edinburgh. 

It would be a waste of time on my part to en- 
deavour to clear up this discrepancy in the Tra- 
quair pedigree, since it is clear your well-informed 
correspondent C. G. H. has the means of doing so 
without much difficulty. 

I have nothing to say as to the question of the 
" Last of the Stuarts," as I agree with the writer 
of the exhaustive article on " The Heirs of the 
Stuarts," in the Quarterly Review for June, 1847, 
that " the death of Cardinal York extinguished 
the descendants of James II." 

WILLIAM J. THOMS. 

40, St. George's Square, S.W. 

" FIAT JUSTITIA, RUAT CCELUM " (4 th S. i. 94 ; 
ix. 433 ; 5 th S. iv. 339.) No answer has yet 
appeared to the query as to the earliest use of the 
phrase. Possibly this has not been discovered, 
and some notice of the places where it occurs may 
be admitted. The latter part of the sentence is of 
early date. Theognis (v. 869, p. 72, Bergk, Anth. 
Lyr., Lips., 1868) has : 
Ev ULOL eTrara 7T(roi fteyas ovpavos ei>pos vwepdzv 

XaAKeos, av^pa)7rav Sei/za TraAatycvecov, 

Et /JLI], K.T.X. 

Terence has (Heaut. iv. iii. 41) : 

" Quid si ccelum ruat." 
And Varro (ap. Nonn., c. ix. n. 7) has : 

' Tanto invasit cupiditas honorum plerisque, ut, vel 
ccelum ruere, dummodo magistrates adipiscantur, exop- 
tent." 

It is mentioned, as a proverb, by Erasmus. The 
union of the two clauses in another form is implied 
in the lines of Horace (Od. iii. iii. 1-8) : 
" Justum et tenacem propositi virum 

;;' 

Si fractus illabatur orbis 
Impavidum ferient ruinae." 

The form "Fiat justitia, ruat mundus," was 
noticed some time since in the Guardian as occur- 
ring in a paper sent to the Privy Council, Oct. 20, 



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1552, if I have noticed the date correctly. A 
similar form was used about that time by the 
Emperor Ferdinand, 1558-1564, who adopted as 
his motto, " Fiat justitia et pereat mundus " (Pri- 
deaux, Introd. to Hist., p. 224, Oxf., 1682). Calvin 
is reported to have said at a trial in Geneva, " Fiat 
justitia, ruat coalum " (T. B. [Thos. Bayly], Eoyal 
Charter, ch. x. 5, pp. 127-130, Lond., 1649). But 
I do not know where it is to be traced to him. It 
has also been found in J. Downame's Four Trea- 
tises, p. 67, 1609. But I have not seen a copy to 
verify the statement. These last instances are 
mentioned in "N. & Q., 4 th S. i. 94; ix. 433. 
The sentence is inserted in the list of English legal 
maxims in S. Warren's Introd. to Legal Studies, 
vol. ii. p. 1272, Lond., 1845, but it is not inserted 
in H. Broom's Legal Maxims, 2nd ed. 

ED. MARSHALL. 

BOY BISHOPS (5 th S. iv. 501 ; v. 66.) Athanasius, 
the famous Bishop of Alexandria, might be said 
to have been the first boy bishop. He has been 
described as a man of very small stature, a dwarf 
rather than a man, with the face of an angel. 
There is a pleasing anecdote related of him which 
finds a parallel in our Saviour's parable of the 
little children mimicking the marriage and funeral 
processions which they saw crossing the market- 
place. 

" See, at his feet, some little plan or chart, 
Some fragment from his dream of human life, 
Shaped by himself with newly-learned art ; 
A wedding or a festival, 
A mourning or a funeral ; 

And this hath now his heart, 
And unto this he frames his song : 

Then will fit his tongue 
To dialogues of business, love, or strife ; 
But it will not be long 
Ere this be thrown aside, 
And with new joy and pride 
The little Actor cons another part." 

I transcribe the following from the attractive pa^es 
of Dean Stanley (The Eastern Church, Lect. vii. 
p. 224), whose authorities are Kufmus, Socrates, 
and So/omen : 

" His first appearance is in a well-known story, which, 
though doubted in later times from its supposed incon- 
gruity with the dignity of a great saint, has every indi- 
cation of truth. Alexander, Bishop of Alexandria, was 
entertaining his clergy in a tower or lofty house over- 
ookmg the expanse of sea beside the Alexandrian har- 
)ur. He observed a groupe of children playing on the 
edge of the shore, arid w.s struck by the grave appear- 
ance of their game. His attendant clergy went, at his 
orders, to catch the boys and bring them before the 
Bishop, who taxed them with having played at religious 
ceremorne, At first, like boys cauglft afa mischfevou 
game, th,y denied ; but at last confessed that they had 
been imitating the sacrament of baptism ; that one of 
them had been selected to perform the part of Bishop 
and that he had duly dipped them in the sea with all 
found'"'/! I ? 1 ue8t10 " 8 ant j addresses. When Alexander 
A !v f i T forms had been observed, he deter 
mined that the baptism was valid ; he himself added th 



consecrating oil of confirmation ; and was so much 
struck with the knowledge and gravity of the boy-bishop, 
;hat he took him under his charge. This little boy was 
Athanasius ; already showing the union of seriousness 
and sport which we shall see in his after life. That 
childish game is an epitome of the ecclesiastical feelings 
of his time and of his country. The children playing on 
the shore, the old man looking at them with interest ; 
these, indeed, are incidents which belong to every age 
of the world. But only in the early centuries could have 
been found the immersion of the baptized, the necessity 
of a Bishop to perform the ceremony, the mixture of 
Freedom and superstition, which could regard as serious 
a sacrament so lightly performed. In the Coptic Church 
is there the best likeness of this Eastern reverence for 
the sacred acts of children. A child still draws the lots 
n the patriarchal elections. By children is still per- 
formed the greater part of their innocent childlike ser- 
vices." 

JOHN E. BAILEY. 

CLEOPATRA (5 th S. iv. 468.) The Public 
Library of the city of Boston (Mass., U.S.A.), one- 
of the best managed and most progressive institu- 
tions in this country, published January, 1875, the- 
second edition of a Chronological Index to His- 
torical Fiction. In this an attempt, of necessity 
incomplete, was made, for the -first time to my 
knowledge, to collect and classify in chronological 
sequence the immense mass of historical fiction,, 
including prose fiction, plays, and poems. Sec- 
tion x. is devoted to ancient Koman history, and 
in it, under the chronological subdivision, first 
century B.C., we come to : 

" Cleopatra. Tragedies by Shakespeare, Antony and 
Cleopatra ; Henry Brooke ; Sir Charles Sedley, Beauty 
the Conqueror; Dryden, All for Love (Antony after 
Actium); Alfieri, Cleopatra; Corneille, Pompee, altered 
by C. Gibber as Ccesar in Egypt, and translated by Mrs. 
Catherine Phillips and Edmund Waller ; Marmontel, Cleo- 
patre; Soden, Kleopatra ; Thomas May; Daniel; Jo- 
delle, Cleopdtre Captive; J. C. Lannoy; Lohenstein; 
Roxas; La Calprenede; Horn; Kotzebue; Ayrenhoff; 
Soumet ; Mme. Emile do Girr.rdin. Hemans, Last Ban- 
quet of Antony and Cleopatra, poem." 

J. BRANDER MATTHEWS. 
Lotos Club, JN T .Y. 

MR. MATTHEWS will find, on p. 31 of Poems by 
Two Brothers, a poem of four ten-line stanzas, 
" Antony to Cleopatra." MOTH. 

MR. MATTHEWS is referred to Tennyson's Dream 
of Fair Women. W. T. M. 

See the choruses in Daniel's tragedy of Cleo- 
paira. Also Thomas May's drama. C. E. B. 

S. CASILDA (5 th S. iv. 468.) I find the follow- 
ing reference in August Potthast, Bibliotheca 
Ilistorica Medii dEvi, 1862, p. 647 : 

" De S. Casilda virgine Burgis in Hispania (saec. xi.) 
Papelrockii dissertat. in AA. SS. Boll. 9 April, L 
pp. 847-850." 

EDWARD PEACOCK. 
Bottesford Manor, Brigg. 



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REGISTRUM SACRUM BATAVIANUM (5 th S. i. 182 ; 
v. 73.) As A. S. A. has sent an appendix to his 
original list of Dutch Old Catholic Bishops, it 
seems a good opportunity to offer a few corrections 
and additions to that list. At the time the list 
appeared (March, 1874) I sent a copy of " N. & Q." 
containing it to my friend, Pastor Rol of Utrecht, 
in the hope that he would be able to complete it 
by filling in some of the minor details of the con- 
secrations which A. S. A. had been unable to 
supply. Pastor Rol was not able to do this in all 
cases, but returned the " N. & Q.," having made 
the following alterations in A. S. A.'s list, viz. : 

4. P. J. Meindaerts, elected July 2, 1739. 

6. J. van Stiphout, elected May 5 (not 15), and 
consecrated June 4 (not 11), 1745. 

8. W. M. van Nieuwen-Huijsen, consecrated 
Feb. 7 (not 6), at Utrecht. 

12. J. Nieuwenhuijs, elected July 29, 1801. 

14. W. van Os, consecrated at Amersfoort. 

15. J. Bon, elected Dec. 2, 1818, and con- 
secrated April 22, 1819, also at Amersfoort. 

18. H. J. van Buul, elected Nov. 2, 1841 (not 
1842), consecrated (on the date given by A. S. A.) 
at Amsterdam. 

19. H. Heijkamp, elected April 12, and con- 
secrated July 17, 1854, at Eotterdam. 

21. L. de Jong, elected Oct. 20, 1863 (not 1862), 
consecrated Nov. 30, 1865 (not 1862), at Am- 
sterdam. 

22. K. J. Rinkel. The two priests who assisted 
Bp. H. Heijkamp in the consecration of Bp. Rinkel 
were Johannes Verheij, Canon and Vicar-General 
(sede vacante) of Utrecht, and Johannes Harder- 
wijk, the senior priest of the diocese of Haarlem. 

... J. H. Reinkens. The two German ecclesi- 
astics who supplied the places of the wanting 
bishops were in this case Professors Knoodt and 
Reusch. 

23. John Heijkamp. The two assistant con- 
secrators were in this case J. H. Reinkens, Bishop 
in Germany, and C. J. Mulder, Dean of Utrecht. 

The third consecrators, or priests supplying the 
place of the third bishop, were, in the case of 
15. Bon (Haarlem), C. de Jong, Dean of Utrecht. 

18. Van Buul (Haarlem), Arnoldus Stanislaus 
van Werckhoven, Archpriest of Utrecht. 

19. H. Heijkamp (Deventer), Gerard Spet, Dean 
of Utrecht. 

20. Loos (Utrecht), Gerard Spet, Dean of 
Utrecht. 

21. De Jong (Haarlem), J. Harderwijk, Vicar- 
General of Haarlem. 

I may perhaps mention that in the account of 
the consecration of Bishop Reinkens, published in 
the Guardian (Aug. 20, 1873), it was stated that 
the two priests who supplied the place of the 
wanting bishops both laid their hands on the head 
of the elect and pronounced the words, " Accipe 
Spiritum Sanctum." As this seemed rather curious, 



I asked Pastor Rol about it, and his answer was 
as follows : 

" The priest assistant at the consecration of a bishop 
does not, with us, place his hand on the head of the elect. 
If he does so, it is an error. I have myself twice seen a 
priest assistant do it; but it is not a matter of great 
moment. It is the bishop alone who can give 'la per- 
fection de la pretrise.' " 

I had, in asking the question, alluded to the 
Swedish Lutheran Church, where the bishops are 
always consecrated by one bishop assisted by two 
priests. 

There is one other point of interest to which I 
may perhaps allude. Dr. Neale, in his History of 
the so-called Jansenist Church of Holland, men- 
tions that Bishop Bon of Haarlem is the only 
bishop of that Church who has escaped excom- 
munication from Rome, and that he was afterwards 
nominated to the see of Bruges, in Belgium ; but 
from causes quite distinct from " Jansenist " con- 
troversies, the nomination fell through (vide Neale, 
p. 350). Dr. Neale, however, does not state what 
these reasons were which prevented Bishop Bon 
from becoming Bishop of Bruges. My friend has 
kindly explained the matter to me as follows : 

"The Dutch Government wished to reunite us with 
Rome. Our bishops were, according to a concordat, to 
resign their sees, and there was to be then a Bishop of 
Amsterdam for the Northern Provinces. Mngr. Bon, 
the one bishop who was not excommunicated, was to 
become Bishop'of Bruges so soon as he had resigned for 
himself the see" of Haarlem." 

Political changes prevented the concordat from 
being carried out, and thus Bishop Bon did not 
succeed to the see of Bruges, and the " Jansenists" 
remain separate from Rome. 

Those readers of " N. & Q." who are interested 
in the affairs of the Dutch "Jansenists" will find 
some information in the Report of the Anglo- 
Continental Society for 1875, published by Messrs. 
Rivingtons. T. M. FALLOW. 

"H&? (5 th S. iv. 443, 494 ; v. 17, 72.)-Suidas,. 
Scapula, Hedrick, Eustathius are these the heroes 
that I have unwittingly attacked 1 Nevertheless, 
I must defend myself, for I have gone too far to 
draw back. 

I will first take our rendering of the passage 
from Thucydides. The charges against it may be 
classed under two heads : 

1. It is paraphrastic and obscure. The first I 
admit. We were translating the passage simply 
with a view to bringing out the meaning of ^S-tj. 
Under any other circumstances, such a rendering 
would have been reprehensible, although I believe 
even an acute scholar would be at a loss to express 
the sense of the Greek briefly. The obscurity is 
not quite so great as MR. TEW imagines, for after 
the verb " avow " the personal pronoun naturally 
refers to the subject of that verb. But even sup- 
posing that I fully admitted these defects, they 



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[5 th S. V. FEB. 5, 76. 



would not affect the meaning of 7?Sr?. A transla- 
tion may be paraphrastic and yet correct ; whilst 
the obscurity, MR. TEW himself asserts, does not 
bear upon the adverb at all. 

2. Inaccuracy. To refute this charge would be 
simply to repeat our first arguments. Let us see, 
then whether MR. TEW'S translation is unimpeach- 
able on this point : " And by reason of their 
ancient grudge against the Lacedaemonians, the 
Athenians took them under their protection, and 
placed them in the city of Naupactus." Now, I 
am rather curious to know which of these words is 
the representative of ij&/. Is it "ancient"? If 
so, MR. TEW'S translation certainly implies that 
the Athenians may or may not have acted 
previously on the score of hatred ; whereas I am 
willing to prove that ?}'8r/ points to this being the 
first time they dared openly to do so. And this 
is what we meant by culmination, or consummation. 
The hatred had long been smouldering in the 
breasts of the Athenians, but the copestone was 
not put on until the enemies of the Spartans had 
been housed at Naupactus. This coincides with 
the context, and gives great force to it, and this is 
just what MR. TEW'S translation fails to embody. 
The word " avowing," so far from being " an inter- 
polation quite uncalled for," is the keystone of the 
passage. 

As I have asserted that Liddell and Scott's 
Lexicon does not satisfactorily explain this word, I 
will try to show how it is so. Few articles in this 
book evince .such a lack of that humility of induc- 
tion, which causes the seeker after truth to await 
patiently the result of his laborious investigations. 
At the outset, there is no one meaning of the 
word ottered sufficiently abstract to embrace all it 
usages. This is a fault sufficient in my opinion 
to vitiate the whole passage. For how can the 
student in the present case expect any unity o 
thought to pervade the explanations? I hav< 
sometimes been puzzled almost to desperation (] 
know not whether this is to my shame), aftei 
patiently wandering through a maze of tortuous 
divisions and subdivisions, and I have tried ir 
vain, on reaching the end, to connect all th< 
meanings or discover the root which threw off al 
these branches. Take, for instance, the article on 
the word OOKCCJ. Can MR. TEW explain how the 
second class of meanings springs from the first " 
The mind is left with little or no help to remembe 
all these disconnected meanings as best it can, am 
he who lias the most capacious memory wins. 

I will conclude with asking only one mor 
question. What is meant by the phrase, "th. 
immediate past," in explanation (!) of '/'/8?? ? Doe 
it mean but I can suggest no meaning for i 
whatsoever, in its present situation. 

We did not arrive at our conclusion hastily a 
regards this word, and so it is hardly likely tha 
cither my friend or I should now throw it asid 



aving anticipated and carefully considered all the 
bjectlons that MR. TEW raises. 

DUNELMENSIS. 

GHAUTS (5 th S. iv. 405, 456 ; v. 77.) C. S. G. 
onfidently affirms that ghaut cannot be another 
orm of gote or gut, because the latter form always 
neans a canal or drain for water, and has no other 
ignification. I commend to his consideration the 
ollowing instance, which I found in almost the 
irst book I consulted, viz.. Richardson's Didion- 
ry : 

'You pass a narrow gut between two stone terrasses, 
hat rose above your head, and which were crowned by 
i line of pyramidal yews." Walpole, "On Gardening." 
Will C. S. G. seriously contend that gut in this 
Dassage means a channel for water ? 

When we find in Icelandic the word gjdta, a 
narrow lane, taking the same form as gjota, to 
oour ; when we find in Danish gyde, a narrow lane, 
igain taking the same form as gyde, to pour, what 
s the use of going to India for an explanation 
;hat can be had from Denmark ? 

I suppose that the spelling ghaut (of course it 
should be gaut) originated with some one who had 
learnt a little geography at school, and chose to 
spell it so. It looks as if it originated with some 
one ignorant of Anglo-Saxon, Icelandic, and 
Danish. What is the authority for it 1 

WALTER W. SKEAT. 

Just one more instance of this curious word. 
One of the small streams which trickle through 
,he old town of Hexham into the adjacent Tyne 
is called the Haligut, the meaning of which is ob- 
vious. May not also the objectionable word guts 
be derived from the same sources, because they 
serve as a thoroughfare for the digesting food ? 

DUNELMENSIS. 

A channel formed long ago on the river Eden, 
below Carlisle, conducting at first a portion only 
of the water by a shorter channel, but which has 
now become itself the main channel, has, for a 
century or more, been famous in litigation be- 
tween the Lowthers and the Corporation of Car- 
lisle as "the Goat." E. S. FERGUSON. 

Gowts is commented upon by Mr. W. Brooke 
in Tracts and Miscellanies relating to Lincoln 
Cathedral, the City, Castle, Palace, Euins, <&c., 
u-ith some Original Letters and Curious Documents 
hitherto Unpublished : 

" Gowt, a sluice, from go-out, as it is supposed by some, 
but in Mr. Alb. Way's notes to the Pr. Parv. Bp. Ken- 
net is quoted as deriving it from the Old Dan. f/iota, 
scrobs. Mr. Way, in a copious note, quotes a statute of 
Henry VIII. in which the * clowes, getties, gutters, 
goottes,' &c., of Hull haven, are mentioned ; also a like 
mention ofguttes in the channel near Rye (temp. Edw. VI.). 
Somersetshire instances are also given ; and he adds, 
' In the Craven dialect, gote denotes a channel of water 
from a mill dam, as does goyt in Hallamshire.' Jame- 



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son (sic) gives goat arid got, a small trench or drain. 1 
similar word occurs in old French, ' goute, gouttiere 
egout.' " 

ST. SWITHIN. 

The Hindustani word ghat came into the Ian 
guage through the Marathi ghat, which is direct^ 
derived from the Sanscrit ghdtta, to move, to go 
The word ghat in Hindustani does not mean " s 
piece of water enclosed and built round," as er 
roneously supposed by HOPELESS. It means a 
landing place, quay, or wharf ; a pass through the 
mountains, or the mountains themselves ; also 
steps down to the water. H. A. 0. 

MONUMENTAL INSCRIPTIONS IN NORMAN 
FRENCH (5 th S. iv. 449 ; v. 58.) Many interest- 
ing examples of these inscriptions yet remain upon 
commemorative sepulchral slabs, which have been 
despoiled of their brasses, the indents on the face 
of each stone still showing the forms of the brass 
letters that once occupied them. Several such 
slabs used to lie in I am uncertain whether they 
have been " restored " out of the pavement in the 
choir of the abbey church of St. Alban, at St. 
Albans. I may also specify one other slab of this 
order, inlaid originally with a brass cross of sin- 
gular beauty of outline (as the indent still shows), 
the marginal inscription upon which, cut in finely 
formed Lonibardic letters, may be read as follows: 

+ ICI . GIST . DAME . EMMA . BE . MOVNAVT . FMME . 
DE . LEYX . BARONS . DIEV . PAH . SA . PITIE . AYEZ . 
MERCI . BE . SA . AME. 

Emma, wife of Eichard Fitzjohn, and afterwards 
of Roger de Montault, died A.D. 1332, and was 
buried in the church at Stradsett, in Norfolk, 
where this slab to her memory, apparently in situ, 
lies in the pavement. 

At Wootton-uuder-Edge, in Gloucestershire, is 
a curious slab, despoiled of its brasses, which, in 
addition to a lengthy marginal inscription in 
rhyming Latin, has a precatory sentence so placed 
as to constitute the shaft of a boldly outlined cross. 
All the letters are Loihbardic. ' In the second 
word of the shaft-sentence a superfluous letter 
appears unintentionally to have been inserted ; 
and, consequently, the allotted space on the stone 
would not admit one letter (A) in the last word, 
which letter has been cut on the stone beneath the 
place it ought to have occupied. 

I have not observed in "N. & Q." any notices of 
slabs despoiled of their brasses. Such slabs, how- 
ever, exist in considerable numbers, and still 
show the distinct outlines of compositions, many 
of them unlike any that are known to remain 
perfect, or comparatively perfect, not a few being 
both beautiful and interesting. 



The Temple. 



CHARLES BOUTELL. 



" DOMINUS ILLUMINATIO MEA " (5 th S. IV. 487.) 

As an illustration of this first being used as the 



motto of the University of Oxford, allow me to 
quote the following extract from the Dedication to- 
Lectures on the Diatessaron, Oxford, 1848, by Dr. 
Macbride, who was then Principal of Magdalene 
Hall : 

"When our reformed University substituted as the 
subjects of the Lectures of Bachelors in Divinity the- 
Epistles of St. Paul for the Sentences of Peter Lombard, 
and assumed for her arms the Bible opened at Psalm xxvii.,. 
The Lord is my Li(/l<t, she declared with our Church 
tbat the Word of God was her sole rule of faith." P. viu 
JOHN PICKFORD, M.A. 

Newbourne Rectory, Woodbridge. 

LA ZOUCHE FAMILY (5 th S. iv. 488.) Not 
having Courthope's Historic Peerage. I cannot tell 
whether the mistake in this pedigree is his or 
D. C. E.'s ; but in Burke's Extinct Peerage, p. 94, 
it is plainly enough stated that Edward Burnell 
was not the son of Joyce Botetourt at all, but of 
her husband's first wife, Philippa de la Pole, and 
that Joyce Botetourt died s. p. Her aunts there- 
fore were her next heirs. 

CHARLES F. S. WARREN, M.A. 

Bexhill. 

Banks, in his Baronia Anglica Concentrata f 
says, at vol. i. p. 144 : 

" In the claim of Mr. Norborne Berkeley to the barony 
of Botetourt, it seems to have been there considered that, 
this Joice Botetourt died s. p., so tbat Edward must havg 
been a son of Hugh Lord Burnell by some other wife, for 
otherwise he (qy. his descendants) would have bad a pre- 
ferable claim to that of Mr. Norborne Berkeley." 

The question arises, Who was the other wife ? 

W. E. B. 

THE DE CANTILUPE FAMILY (5 th S. iv. 487) 
came from Chanteloup, near Coutances. Name 
synonymous with Cantelowe. In Battle Abbey 
Roll, Chanteloiv appears in Hollingshead's, Chanti- 
lowe in Duchesne's, and Caunteloiv in Leland's list. 
William de Cantilupe occurs in Normandy, 1124 
(Gall. Christ., xi. 160) ; Walter de Cantilupe in 
Lincoln, 1130 (Rot. Pip.). In 1166, Walter, 
Roger, Ralph, and Simon de Cantilupe held fiefs 
n England (Lib. Nig.). The period of Glover's. 
Roll being 1240-5, the William de Cantilupe in- 
cluded therein was the second baron by tenure, 
son and heir of William de Cantilupe, the first 
3aron, living temp. John, and who died in 1238. 

W. E. B. 

MR. WESTON will possibly find Cantilupe 
Champ-de-loup) as the name of some barony or 
place in France. See the dictionaries of Lamar- 
iniere and Joanne. R. S. CHARNOCK. 

Paris. 

BRISTOL CATHEDRAL LIBRARY (5 th S. v. 8.) 
Your correspondent will find the information he 
eeks in the following extract from a valuable 
vork, entitled Notes on the Cathedral Libraries of 
England, by Beriah Botfield (London, 1849) : 



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" The chapter-house, so much admired for the beauty 
-of its Saxon architecture, was at that time," %.e., the 
time of the Bristol Riots, October 31, 1831, " the recep- 
tacle of about six or seven thousand volumes, constituting 
the library of the Dean and Chapter. 

" The lawless ruffians, who fired the adjoining palace, 
threw the greater number of these volumes into the 
flames ; and the catalogue, of which, unfortunately, no 
duplicate was kept, shared the same fate." P. 1. 

Mr. Botfield adds that about eleven hundred 
volumes were subsequently recovered from the 
shops of marine-store dealers and other places, 
which are now in a building connected with the 
cathedral. He gives the titles of a few of these 
works. H. BOWER. 

JOHN HOLLAND (5 th S. v. 29.) If ST. SWITHIN 
will consult 

" The Life of John Holland, of Sheffield Park, from 
Numerous Letters and other Documents furnished by 
his Nephew and Executor, John Holland Brammall. 
By William Hudson. With Portrait and Illustrations. 
London : Longmans, Green & Co., 1874, 

which " N. & Q." has pronounced to be " as full 
of interest as a novel," and " wholesome English 
reading, every leaf of it," he will find an exhaustive 
account of the amiable author of Cruciana. The 
Crispin Anecdotes, named by MR. POTTER (v. 33), 
was also one of the many books from Mr. Holland's 
prolific pen. GEORGE MARKHAM TWEDDELL. 
Kose Cottage, Stokesley. 

Cruciana is one of the numerous works of John 
Holland, of .Sheffield Park, the friend and bio- 
grapher of James Montgomery, who died at 
Sheffield on Dec. 28, 1872. The title Cruciana 
might suggest a belief that Mr. Holland was 
thereby supplementing the High Church movement 
at the period of its publication ; but the author was 
neither " Papist nor Puritan," and advocated, in 
this volume of prose and poetry upon the subject, 
" no idolatrous reverence for the cross under any 
modifications whatever," although it seems that 
this suspicion operated against the sale of a valu- 
able and handsomely got up book. What Mr. 
Holland did so well for his friend, the better known 
Sheffield poet, the Rev. "W. Hudson has done for 
him, in his interesting Life of John Holland, of 
Sheffield Par!;, published by Longmans in 1874. 

J. 0. 

LORD CHANCELLOR ELLESMERE (5 th S. v. 68.' 
The work here mentioned, Certain Observation, 
concerning the Office of the Lord Chancellor 
although admitted as authentic by Lowndes, it 
one of two attributed to Lord Ellesmere, which arc 
questioned by Watts on the ground of " inaccuracy 
and composition," the other being the Speechtoucli 
ing the Post Nati, which is also mentioned by you 
correspondent. It appears that Lord Ellesmere : 
short time before his death, gave certain " book 
>t his own, written by his own hand," to his chap 



ain, John Williams, afterwards Archbishop of 
York and Lord Keeper. This is stated by Am- 
brose Philips in his Life of Williams. And he 
adds that these manuscripts were " collections for 
,he well ordering of the High Court of Parliament, 
ihe Court of Chancery, the Star Chamber, and the 
Council Board," in which were comprised the main 
duties of the office of the Lord Chancellor. When 
Williams fell into disgrace, his library and all his 
effects were seized and dispersed. It would appear 
that some of these manuscripts may have fallen 
into the hands of unskilful editors, and been pub- 
ished. In a volume of manuscripts which once 
oelonged to Archbishop Williams, I find a treatise 
on the " Privileges and Special Eights belonging 
to the Baronage of England." This is a cognate 
subject with the collections specified by Ambrose 
Philips, and the treatise may possibly have been 
among them. NIGRAVIENSIS. 

"COMING THROUGH THE RYE" (5 th S. v. 87.) 
The original version of this song, for which SCOTO- 
AMERICUS inquires, is 

" If a body meet a body going to the fair, 

If a body kiss a body need a body care f " 
The original entry at Stationers' Hall was made 
by Broderip & Wilkinson, music publishers in 
London, on the 29th of June, 1796, in the follow- 
ing words : " ' If a body meet a body,' sung by 
Mrs. Henley, at the Eoyal Circus, in the favourite 
new Pantomime called Harlequin Mariner, the 
music adapted by J. Sanderson, the words by Mr. 
Cross." A copy of this edition will be found in 
the library of the British Museum (G 367). Mrs. 
Henley acted the part of Market Goody in the 
pantomime. Cross was the author of several other 
pantomimes, of a book called Circusiana, &c. 
Harlequin Mariner was produced for the Christ- 
mas of 1795-96. WM. CHAPFELL. 

There are three versions of the air. The first, 
according to Mr. Stenhouse, is taken from the 
third and fourth strains of The Miller's Daughter, 
a strathspey. The second set was altered slightly 
from the first by John Watlen, musician and 
music-seller, first in Edinburgh, then in London. 
This is the best known air. The third version is 
adapted to a totally different set of words. See 
G. F. Graham's Songs of Scotland, ii. 11. 

WILLIAM GEORGE BLACK. 

MUSJ.US AND ST. LUKE (5 th S. iii. 446.) The 
parallel between the passages, Luke ii. 27 and the 
Hero and Leander of Musseus, i. 138-9, to which 
attention was first drawn by MR. E. TEW, 
is of much interest. One's feeling is perhaps a 
little shocked by finding the same terms applied 
to widely differing personages under widely differ- 
ing circumstances. But I would ask your learned 
correspondent, or any other well-read contributor 
to " N. & Q.," if there be not a passage very similar 



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to the above in the poetry of India, referring to 
the gods. I have an impression I have come across 
such passage, but cannot remember where. 

V. E. T. 

[We can perhaps make one step in the direction re- 
quired by V. E. T. by the help of Mrs. Manning's Ancient 
and Mediaeval India, ii. 119. When the divine Uma, 
daughter of the mountain Himalaya and the nymph 
Mend, was born again, the destined bride of heaven's 
supremest king, Siva, the occurrence was celebrated by 
forms of gratulatiori, thus done into English : 
" Blest was that hour, and all the world was gay, 
When Mena's daughter saw the light of day : 
A rosy glow fill'd all the bright'ning sky, 
An odorous breeze came sweeping softly by, 
Breath'd round the hill a sweet unearthly strain, 
And the glad heavens pour'd down their flowery rain."] 

THE CIMMERIANS AND CATACOMBS (5 th S. v. 
22.) One of the latest, and also earliest, accounts 
of the Cimmerians is to be found in Smith's In- 
scription of Assurbanipal, col. 3, pp. 332, 333, 
where Gyges, King of Lydia, is represented as 
sending two Cimmerian chiefs, whom he had taken, 
bound "in strong fetters of iron and bonds of 
iron," to Assurbanipal, and afterwards the Cim- 
merians come and sweep the whole of his country. 
Let me suggest 1 that Cwmry or Kymri means 
simply men of the cwms or combes, as spelt in the 
South Anglice, glensmen or dalesmen. 

J. K. HAIG. 

"SKID" (5* S. iv. 129, 335, 371.) The Swedish 
word sJcid never signifies a skate, but may, per- 
haps, be translated "snow-shoe." In Sweden a 
skid is a long, thin, light, and smooth strip of 
wood, which is bound under the foot, the wearers 
always requiring, unlike skaters, the assistance of 
a pole to help themselves along over fields of ice 
or snow. The phrases " att lopa pa skid," " att 
ga pa skidor," mean " to run upon snow-shoes." 
The Swedish word for skate is skridsko (skrid from 
Sw. verb skrida = Icel. skrtisa t A.-S. seri&an, 
Germ, schreiten, Engl. Dial. sJcride or scride ; 
*io=E. shoe). " Att ga pa skridskor " means to 
skate. MR. SKEAT'S remarks are admirable, as 
they always are. I especially desire to join in the 
indignant remonstrances, to which he has so fre- 
quently given utterance, against ignorant dabbling 
in etymology. Nothing so surprises Americans 
as some of the extraordinary attempts at " deri- 
vation" which they so constantly hear of. 
I suggest to all persons afflicted with the 
41 derivation " mania a careful study of Wei- 
gand's Deutschcs Worterbuch, the new edition of 
which is approaching completion. Just such 
a v-rork in our own language would be the greatest 
pr jsible boon to students of English. 

WlLLARD FlSKE. 
The Cornell University, Ithaca, U.S. 

LOUISE LATEAU (5 th S. iv. 513 ; v. 55, 78.) 
In addition to the works on this ecstatica already 



given in your columns there have been the follow- 
ing, and there has also been an English edition of 
Dr. Lefebvre's book by myself, published by 
Richardson & Son, London, 1872 : 

1. "Les Stigmatisees : Louise Lateau de Bois d'Haine 
et Palma d'Oria." Par Docteur Imbert Gourbeyre. 
2 vols. Paris, 1873. 

2. " La Stigmatisee de Bois d'Haine." Par Mgr. ****. 
Paris, 1871. " Recit d'une visite faite a la Stigmatioee." 
Par M. 1'Abbe de Menneval. 

3. " Louise Lateau van Bois d'Haine, een studiebeeld 
voor de positieve wetensvhap." Door A. J. Riko. Amster- 
dam, 1872. 

4. Excursion a Bois d'Haine." Par M. X. Lille, 
1872. 

In answer to APIS, Louise Lateau still continues 
to exhibit the same phenomena, the ecstasy occur- 
ring every Friday, with haemorrhage from the feet, 
hands, side, and head. Within the last few weeks, 
however, she has been growing gradually weaker, 
and when I last heard was at the point of death. 

As regards the letter of Dr. Boens, of Charleroi, 
in the Medical Journal, I am not in a position to 
give a categorical denial to his assertion that she 
is an impostor. I must, however, record my firm 
conviction in the truth of Louise Lateau's case, for 
I can never believe that such a heroine of charity 
as she has proved herself to be in so many circum- 
stances of her life could ever have lent herself to 
such a miserable fraud as Dr. Boe'ns would have 
us believe. 

Dr. Lefebvre, who is one of the most able men 
in Belgium, has had every opportunity of making 
a full and complete study of her case, and some of 
the tests he made use of were such as to inflict the 
most excruciating pain. At first distrustful for 
he acknowledges that at the outset he looked upon 
her as an impostor he finally declared that the 
hypothesis of fraud must be absolutely discarded. 

More than a hundred medical men from all 
parts of Europe have examined Louise Lateau, and 
all, with scarcely an exception, accept her case as 
genuine. J. S. SHEPARD. 

Northampton. 

APIS may like to add two English works to his 
list : 

' Louise Lateau, the Ecstatica of Bois d'Haine... Trans- 
lated from the French by J. S. Shepard ; with a brief 
sketch of several former cases of the same nature. Lon- 
don, 1872." 

This contains only a portion of Dr. Lefebvre's 
work. Dr. Northcote, of Oscott, has published a 
full translation, which was brought out by Burns 
& Gates in 1873. 

Dr. Imbert Gourbeyre announced, in the Uni- 
vers for December, 1871, his intention of publish- 
ing a work entitled L'Histoire des Stigmatise'es de 
Bois d'Haine et d'Oria, but I do not know whether 
this was ever carried out. JAMES BRITTEN. 

British Museum. 

An article entitled " Louise Lateau, a Biologica 



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[5 th S. V. FEB. 5, '76. 



Study," by George E. Day, M.D., F.R.S., late Pro- 
fessor of Medicine at the University of St. Andrews, 
appeared in Macmillan's Magazine for April, 1871 ; 
and has been recently reprinted, "with a short 
record of additional facts," by W. Parke, High 
Street, Wolverhampton, pp. 24. 

WM. PENGELLY. 

[Louise Lateau has died since the above lines were 
written. So we learn from our worthy French contem- 
porary, Ulntermediaire. Jean Weyer (Piscinarius), in 
that journal, believes that Louise Lateau suffered from a 
malady which was allowed to make progress, and that 
she was not consciously an impostor. The Intermediaire 
recommends two works to the perusal of all interested 
in such incidents as the above : " Louise Lateau, ou la 
Stigmatisee Beige," par le Docteur Bourneville (Paris, 
Belahaye), and "Le Christianisme au XIX. Siecle" 
(Paris, Grassart), which contains two or three articles 
on this case.] _ 



NOTES ON BOOKS, &o. 

Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, of the 
Ileifjii of Henry VIII. Preserved in the 
Public Eecord Office, the British Museum, and 
elsewhere in England. Arranged and Catalogued 
by J. S. Brewer, M.A. Under the direction of 
the Master of the Eolls, and with the sanction 
of Her Majesty's Secretaries of State. Vol. IV. 
Introduction and Appendix. (Longmans & Co.) 
IN nearly seven hundred pages Mr. Brewer reviews 
the momentous incidents of the years 1524-30. 
These pages will be read with the utmost interest, 
both for the importance of the subject and the 
ability with which it is treated. We feel, however, 
that Mr. Brewer has gone somewhat beyond the 
limits within which the editors of this great na- 
tional series are bound to keep. The nation pays 
for the arranging and printing of the calendars 
which are intended to facilitate the researches of 
historians ; but it never intended to afford oppor- 
tunities to the several editors to put forth their 
own views on politics or religion. Mr. Brewer 
would be justified in maintaining the opinions to 
which he gives brilliant expression in this Intro- 
duction, in any volume which he chose to publish 
on his own account ; but we think he has over- 
leapt his right in a work which is directed by the 
Master of the Rolls, and is sanctioned by Her Ma- 
jesty's Secretaries of State. On these officials 
weighs a responsibility which should be borne in 
mind by the editors in whom they place confidence 
\\ e say nothing of political questions, but refer to 
:i religious one. Mr. Brewer's pages, illustrating 
his own view of "the true origin of the Reforma- 
tion, will be contested by ten out of every twelve 
readers ; and all their charm of style, or honest 
earnestness of expression, cannot persuade us that 
they here have a fitting place. We notice this 
mistake with profound regret, for it is painful to 
even hint censure against an editor to whom the 



public on so many occasions has been so deeply 
indebted. 

The Oera Linda Book. From a Manuscript of the 
Thirteenth Century, with the Permission of the 
Proprietor, C. Over De Linden, of the Helder. 
The Original Frisian Text, as Verified by Dr. J. 
0. Ottema, accompanied by an English Version 
of Dr. Ottema's Dutch Translation. By Wm, 
K. Sandbach. (Triibner & Co.) 
INTO English, through the Dutch, from the Frisian, 
we have here as wonderful a narrative as Messrs. 
Triibner & Co. have ever given to the public. 
The translator allows that it is not easy to say 
whether the Frisian MS. is genuine (no one doubts 
that it is old) or a forgery. The details are as 
simple and truth-like as those in Robinson Crusoe, 
but nobody can go further than allowing this re- 
semblance. The Book is better worth reading 
than Le Voyage du Jeune Anacharsis, because it 
is not dry or pedantic, and it is as marvellous as 
anything Peter Wilkins tells about the flying 
women. We can only add that Pallas Athene 
will have to look to her pedigree, for the genuine 
Minerva, we are told, was a maiden from Friesland. 
But let readers hasten to open this volume. We 
endorse the words in the Introduction which say 
that " there is nothing in the Boole that we were 
acquainted with before." 

AUTHORS AND QUOTATIONS WANTED. 
" Forgive, blest shade, the tributary tear 

That mourns thine exit from a world like this." 
" They dreamt not of a perishable home, 

Who thus could build." 
" If thou would'st learn to love, 

Thou first must learn to hate." 

" Hands 

Athwart the darkness, shaping man." C. 

" Angels ever bright and fair, 

Take, oh, take me to your care ! " 
"If the soul immortal be, 

Is not its love immortal too 1 ? " 
" I cannot, Lord, Thy purpose see, 
Yet all is well since ruled by Thee." 

DAVID A. BURT. 
" I heard a little bird sing 

That the Parliament captain Avas going to be king.'' 
" When the news came from Nottingham, 

The standard was unfurl'd ; 
Men's hearts were in their mouths, I wis, 
Men's brains in tumult whirl'd." A. 0. V. P. 

" A tree 

Sucks kindlier nurture from the soil enriched 
By its own fallen leaves, and man is made 
In heart and spirit from deciduous hopes, 
And things that seem to perish." K. 

Shortly after the Duke of Wellington's funeral, She 
Day of the Funeral was published. Who was the autho '"' 

W. B. R. 

" Be good, and let who will be clever; 
Do noble things, not dream them, all day long, 
Thus making life and the great vast for ever 
One grand sweet song." OXOIT. 



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Lord Spencer and Lord Sandwich. 

" The one invented half a coat, 

The other half a dinner." 

When were these lines written on the above noblemen? 
What two lines preceded those quoted? S. E. J. 

" What though my cates be poor, 

Take them in good part : 
Better cheer may you have, 

But not with better heart." J. J. J. 
" Oh, how the world would ope its half-closed eyes, 
Did authors act. and actors criticize ! " 

A. G. D. 

u Soft balmy sleep, 
Though emblem of the dead," &c. 

E. F. 
" The frost looked forth one still clear night." 

CHARLES ELKIN MATHEWS. 

" CRITICS, MEN WHO HAVE FAILED." C. B. T. sends us 
from Eton the following extract from a letter from 
Haydon to Miss Mitford, 1823 (Correspondence, just pub- 
lished by his son) : " All the critics in the papers are 
ci-devant poets, painters, and tragedy writers who have 
failed. A successful tragedy, and by a lady, rouses their 
mortified pride, and damnation is their only balm. Be 
assured of this." What we really want now are earlier 
examples than those already produced in " N. & Q." 
namely, in passages from Dryden and Joe Haynes, in the 
seventeenth century. 

COMPLETE WORKS OF EDGAR ALLAN POE. In " N 
& Q.," 5 th S. ii. 105, G. L. H., Greenville, Ala., after 
drawing attention to the fact that the book advertised 
by Mr. Hotten as the complete works of Poe does not 
contain some of the poet's finest productions, remarks 
that " no complete collection of Poe's writings has yet 
been published, even in America," and points out that 
the latest native edition does not include the papers on 
"autography" and "cryptography." The papers he 
mentions, together with several others not in the Ameri- 
can editions, are contained in the complete edition of 
Poe's works published by Messrs. A. & C. Black, of 
Edinburgh, and edited by Mr. John H. Ingram. 

AN interesting addition has just been made to the 
collection of portraits in the rooms of the Society of 
Antiquaries. Mr. Ouvry, the new President, has just 
presented to the Society a capital portrait, by Dahl, of 
William Oldys. It is the picture mentioned in the little 
volume, Notes on and by Oldys, reprinted from " N. & Q." 
eome few years since ; and bur readers will agree with 
us that it could not have found a more appropriate 
resting-place. _ 



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as a guarantee of good faith. 

TRIPLE G. Perhaps this reply will be of more use 
than the insertion of so long a query, which would lead 
to useless controversy. In Father Newman's Letter to 
Mr. Gladstone, published a year ago, the writer, at p. 63, 
denies the infallibility of Pope Gregory XIII. when he 
had a medal struck in honour of the Bartholomew 
massacre ; of Paul IV. in his conduct towards Elizabeth ; 
of Sixtus V. when he blessed the Armada ; and of 
Urban VIII. in persecuting Galileo. See also p. 106, 
for the case of Pope Honorius. This pontiff had sup- 
ported in two formal letters the opinions of Sergius, 
Patriarch of Constantinople, who had been declared by 
the Sixth Council guilty of heresy for holding a certain 
doctrine on the personality of Jesus Christ. Honorius, 



above forty years after his death, was condemned by 
anathema as a heretic for his entire concurrence with 
Sergius's opinion. Father Newman allows that this is a 
strong primd facie argument against the Pope's doctrinal 
infallibility ; but he sets aside the argument by stating 
that Honorius wrote the two letters, not as pope, but as 
a private bishop. 

J. U. R. wishes us to make a note of the " novel fact " 
that a performance took place last week at the Durham 
Theatre for the benefit of Thornley Church. The pro- 
ceeding was under the patronage of the Rev. Wm. Mayor 
(the vicar) and the churchwardens, and appears to have 
been very successful. The "fact," however, is not 
' novel." When Cato was played at Oxford in 1713, the 
sum of 501. was given out of the receipts " for the repairs 
of St. Mary's Church." Throughout the century we find 
records of benefits for the building or repairing of 
churches and chapels, for opening wards in hospitals, for 
sufferers from fire, for redeeming men out of slavery, and 
for Lying-in Hospitals in want of funds. 

HENRY B." Lord Mayor." The prefix of " lord " is 
commonly said to have been granted by Edward III. to 
the mayor of London in 1354. In that year, Thomas 
Legge, ancestor of the Earl of Dartmouth, was chief 
magistrate. The late Mr. B. B. Orridge (Some Account 
of the Citizens of London and their Rulers, Tegg &, Co., 
1867) says, " Legge lent money to Edward III. and married 
the daughter of Thomas Beauchamp, Earl of Warwick. 
He was beheaded in 1381 by the partisans of Wat Tyler." 
The title " lord mayor " is now borne by the chief civic 
officer of London, of York, and of Dublin only. 

F. B. D. At the time alluded to, " pardons " of con- 
victed prisoners were granted to maids of honour and 
other persons about Court. If the prisoners could buy 
their pardons of those who held the power to grant them, 
they obtained their freedom; otherwise, they were sold 
to the Transatlantic planters. 

C. A. W. The Rev. Hamilton Paul's book was entitled 
Paul's First and Second Epistles to the dearly beloved the 
Female Disciples or Female Stiidents of Natural Philoso- 
phy in Anderson's Institution, Glasgow. It is scarce; so 
is his edition of Burns, 1819. 

" CLONTARF." Our correspondent, writing from this 
classic ground, will find the best account of the wreck of 
the troop-ship Birkenhead, off Simon's Bay, Africa, in, 
the newspapers and other periodicals of the period, 1852. 

H. T. TILLEY. Please forward us the instance of the 
bell with royal head on it, referred to by MR. ELLACOMBE, 
in time for our next number. 

GENEALOGIST is requested to send his name and address. 
These should always be written on communications. 

F. B. D. The story in question is the result of a 
novelist's imagination. 

T. T. T. The foolish prophecy is well known, and 
is modern. 

G. " For fools rush in." Pope, Essay on Criticism, 
iii. 66. 

C. In the description of the shipwreck in Don Juan. 

C. C. "Curious Books " is merely an advertisement. 

W. S. J. The epitaph is by Ben Jonson. 

C. S. K., G. E. C.. and W. G. B. Noted. 

A. G. D. (Melbourne.) See 5 th S. iv. 240. 

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LONDON, SATURDAY, FEBRUARYS, 1876. 



CONTENTS. N 111. 

NOTES : Arts and Manufactures in the Last Century, 121 
A List of English Words used by French Writers, and 
Missing in Littrg's Didionnalrc, 122 Robert Southey on 
the Value of Minor Poetry Folk-Lore, 123 The French 
State Paper Office, 124 Parallel Passages " Supplement to 
Gray's ' Elegy in a Churchyard' (from an American paper)," 
125 Mistletoe in Grimsthorpe Park : a Large Bough from 
Ere tag ne Witchcraft in Warwickshire " Bonnie Annie 
Laurie," 126. 

QUERIES : Thornton's "Tour in Scotland " Pennant's 
"British Zoology"" Encyclopaedia Londinensis "Etymo- 
logy of "Cad" Genealogical Oak Cabinet, 1678, 127 
David Garrick's Book-Plate Cuckoo == Cuckold " Two 
Noble Kinsmen" "Catamaran" "Histoire des Troubles 
de Hongrie" G. Hutchinson Pipe's Ground Wellington 
at Astley's-Chalmers's " Caledonia," 128 Why is Easter on 
the 16th April this year ? Piercy's "History of Retford" 
Rutland Churches Games at Cards Naval Engagement 
B. de Mandeville Various "The Mysterious Gentleman" 
"The Heir of Mondolfo," 129. 

REPLIES : The Gipsies, 129 Milton's Forestry American- 
isms, 131 Shaking Hands" Lady Helps "Mrs. Pritchard's 
Descendants, 132 Waterloo Bridge Christmas Mummers 
Gematria, 133 Scotch Attorney John Adolphus G. 
Butler of Ballyragget Bell Horses Lines on the Letter H, 
134 Pile Family Lady Greenvill J. Dawson R. Brandon 
Elizabeth Hamilton Arabella Fitzjames Herrick and 
Ausonius, 135 Heraldic Skating Literature -Royal Heads 
on Bells The Society of Friends Whipping Dogs out of 
Church Poets the Masters of Language, 136 -Double Chris- 
tian Names Pre- Reformation Church Plate Major F. 
Peirson The Obligations of Executors " Intoxicating " 
Coin Impressions on Bells The " Giants' Graves " at Pen- 
rith " Teetotal," 137 Women's Rights-Leases for 99 or 
999 Years-" The Buffs "-Philological, 138. 

Notes on Books, <fec. 



ARTS AND MANUFACTURES IN THE LAST 
CENTURY. 

" Premiums offered by the Society instituted in Lon- 
don for the Encouragement of Arts, Manufactures, and 
Commerce. London, 1761." 

The pamphlet of which the above is the title is 
now curious as showing, by the present state of 
agriculture, arts, and manufactures, how useless it 
is to offer premiums for the production of things 
unsuited to the nature of the soil or the genius of 
a nation. Thus we find a gold medal offered 
" for planting out in the year 1763 the greatest 
number of white pine, commonly called Lord 
Wey mouth's pine, or the New England pine 
being the properest sort for masts" : that " bees- 
wax being a scarce article, a gold medal will be 
given to the person who shall erect an apiary for 
thirty hives " : that " seven hundred pounds will 
be given to encourage the raising of hemp in all 
parts of England and Wales." 

Premiums are also offered for strange objects : 
thus, " thirty pounds for inventing the best me- 
thod of perfectly purifying clouded cornelians or 
onyxes " ; " fifty pounds for the discovery of any 
cheap composition of a very strong and lasting 
colour for the marking of sheep, which will bear 
the weather a proper time, and not damage the 



wool, as pitch, tar, &c., do ; to be produced on or 
before the last Tuesday in February, 1762." 

Some of the "premiums for promoting polite 
arts " are, it must be confessed, large, when we 
recall the prices for which Hogarth sold his pic- 
tures. Thus, for the best drawing in chalks, from 
a statue, twenty-five guineas are promised ; and 
for the best drawing of a landscape from nature, 
with chalk, pen, indian ink, or bister, thirty 
guineas. And the other premiums for drawing 
and engraving are in proportion as large. Paint- 
ing does not, however, receive much encouragement. 
Only one hundred guineas are promised " for the 
best original historical picture, the subject to be 
taken from British history only, containing not 
less than three human figures as large as life"; 
and fifty guineas " for the best original landscape 
on a canvas six feet four inches long and four 
feet six inches high." This is remarkable ; nor 
are the conditions under which the pictures are 
admissible less so. We are told, 

" Proof must be made to the satisfaction of the society, 
that the whole of each picture was painted in England, 
and since the 1st of January, 1761. The pictures to be 
delivered without frames to the register of the society, 
on or before the second Tuesday in March, 1762 ; and 
those which gain premiums must remain with the so- 
ciety two months after the decision." 

One hundred guineas is the premium offered 
for the best life-size statue in marble. 

For silk gloves and mits, like the French, a 
premium of thirty guineas is promised ; and an- 
other for knitted hose. The following is also 
curious. A premium will be given 

" For the best carpet in pattern, colours, and work, 
made in the loom upon the principle of the Turkey car- 
pets, in any workhouse or house of charity, by women or 
girls who have not been employed before in any such 
work or manufacture, the same not being less than two 
and a half yards long and one and a half broad ; to be 
produced on or before the second Tuesday in December, 
1761, fifteen guineas. For the second best, ten guineas. 

"N.B. A certificate will be required of the directors or 
governors of such workhouse or charity house, or any 
three of them, that the same was made or manufactured 
by women or children supported in such workhouse or 
charity house, and under the circumstances above men- 
tioned." 

In the next page 

" A strong cloth being prepared in Sweden from hop 
stalks or binds, the society will give a premium of fifty 
pounds for the best and greatest quantity of such cloth 
(not less than one hundred and fifty ells), made in Eng- 
land, and produced to the society on or before the second 
Tuesday in December, 1761. Second premium, twenty- 
five pounds. 

" The hop stalks or binds are to be collected in au- 
tumn, put into water, and covered therewith the whole 
winter. In March they are to be taken out, dried in a 
stove, and dressed as flax. The prepared filaments will 
be fine, soft, and white, and may be spun and woven into 
cloth. Hop stalks require a longer time to rot than 
flax ; and if not completely macerated the woody part 
will not separate, nor the cloth prove white and fine." 

Thirty pounds are offered for the best model of 



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a drill plough, "which shall plough, sow, and cover 
in seed at the same time." . 

There are also premiums for the production m 
America of cochineal, sturgeon if imported into 
London, silk, raisins, wines ; and the list finishes 
with one for " provincial gardens in our colonies 
in North America, for the raising such rare and 
useful plants as are not the spontaneous growth of 
this kingdom." 

The pamphlet concludes with the announcement 
that 

" A gold medal will be given for the best treatise on 
the arts of peace, containing an historical account of 
the progressive improvements of agriculture, manufac- 
tures, and commerce, in that part of Great Britain called 
England, with the effects of those improvements on the 
morals and manners of the people, and pointing out the 
most practical means of their future advancement. All 
treatises to be sent in to the society on or before the 
second Wednesday in December, 1761." 

EALrii iST. JAMES. 

Aehford, Kent. 



A LIST OF ENGLISH WORDS USED BY FRENCH 
WRITERS, AND MISSING IN LITTRE'S D1C- 
TWXXAIRE. 

(Continued from p. 82.) 

(>' i Hind. " Le systeme de succession en usage parmi 
les < vite-s irlandais, et que les juristes anglais orit appele 
gavelHnd, ressemble a cclui qu'on rencontre dans les 
communautes de famille ou zadrugas serbes." E. de 
Laveloye, Ihr. des Deux Mondes, 15 Avril, 1875, p. 795. 

G'rjrialement (Engl. genially). " Cette peinture si 
penialement anglaise." 'Th. Gautier, Les Beaux-Arts en 
Evr];>- . vol. i. ii. 13. 

G> i.tl mini (used as an adjective). " C'est un art par- 
ticiilie: 1 [1'art anglais], raffine jusqu'a la maniere, bizarre 
JH.-'|II';'L la chinoiserie, muis toujours aristocratique ct 
gentleman." Id. Hid., i. 7. 

(>''/ "Miss Hovel venait d'arriver au sommet de 

la coiline dans un gig qu'elle conduisait elle-mGme." 
rbuliez, Mist 'Hovel, vi. ; Rev. des Deux Mondes, 
15 Iiec., 1874, p. 723. 

(.'re '.',.,," En Angleterre on en trouve une autre 

,ue lesauteurs nominent Graining Pour nous, 

Ic (i',-"'in:'>i;f c.-t le Dard francais, ou une variett- insignifi- 
ante <le lV<p-'-ce." II. de La Blanchere, in Dr. Chenu 
/. Troi.i I.'fyiifs de la Mature, 1865, p. 389. 

" A voir comment tous ces gens depensent 
i<l,f-h et les jcttent au vent, on dirait qu'ils n'ont 

'tu'a frapper <Iu ).ied pour les faire sortir de terrc." 

L. Simon'm, Jt^v. dcs Deux Mondes, l r Avril, 1875, p. 570. 

f/n'::///. -" Le caractere special du Grizzly, ce sonfc FCS 
fnormes g rifles blanches, arquees, larges d'un cote en 

z.:aii[*e] ai-u r .ar dessous." II. de La Blanchere' in 
1'r. "'liciiu, ];<;, p. <K. 

"La Grouse, petit Tetrag a queue pleine, de 
-G. de Cherville, in Dr. Chenu, 1865, p. 315. 

0tt/r7eroe. "Nous avons L 't,j delestes dune facon 
nt ].lus opportune que nous n'avions pas meme eu 
le temps de larguer notrc guiderope."-W. de Fonvielle, 
Moniteur Unirersel, 29 Mai, 1874. 

" {f ~~" V T1 ' 9t ^eaucoup plus difficile ici [dans 1'Ouest] 
qua New-York, de trouver des domestic ues qui vous 
-orvcnt Ceux qui veulent bien s'y plier ne conser.tent 
l ; as a etre appelcs autrement que des aides lelns " L 
bimonm, Rent dcs Dcv.s Mondes, l r Avril, 1875 P 56o' 



Highland. " Sir H. Maine a constate que dans les 
highlands de 1'ouest leg communautes de Tillage, dissoutes 
en ces derniers temps, partageaient periodiquement les 
terres entre les habitane par un tirage u sort." 'E. de 
Laveleye, loc. cit., 15 Avril, 1875, p. 794, note 2. 

The word Highlander is often to be met with. 

Hisser (Eng. to hiss). " Pardon, voi&ine, pardon; cer- 
tainement ce n'est pas vous que je me serais permis de 
hisser comme cela...c'est a. mes deux amis que je 
m'adressais." P. de Kock, La Demoiselle du Cinquieme, 
ii. 3. Paris, V. Benoist et C ie . 

Home." Ce pays ou chaeun pretend avoir son home, 
son foyer & lui." L. Simonin, Rev. dts Deux Mondes, 
l r Janv., 1875, p. 71. " Nous avons prefere le home de 
notre campement & 1'hospitalite peu seduisante que le 
lazaret [d'Hebron] offre d'ordinaire aux voya#urs." 
E. Melchior de Vogiie, Journees de Voyage en Syrie, ii. ; 
Rev. des Deux Mondes, l r Fevrier, 1875, p. 556. 

Homestead. " Dans le principe, le colon s'est installe 
librement sur le terrain ; il 1'a acquis du gouvernement 
federal en retour d'une .somme minime et en vertu de la 
loi de homestead ou du foyer, qui fixe 1'etendue de terre 
a laquelle a droit toute famille de colon." L. Simonin, 
loc. cit., l r Avril, 1875, p. 560. 

Hommoclc (see Iluimnoclc). "Ce refuga etait ordi- 
nairernent un tertre eleve, appele hoinmocJc, couvcrfc 
d'une epaisse vegetation." Comte de Paris, loc. cit., 
Revue des Deux Mondes, l r Juillet, 1874, p. 18. 

Horse-guard. " Son depart d'Angleterre avait ete 
precede d'un duel qu'il avait eu avec un capitaine des 
horse-guards, lequel etait reste sur le terrain." A. 
Reville, Le Major Frans, par Mme. Boshoom-Toussaiat; 
Revue des Deux Mondes, l r Juillet, 1876, p. 131. 

Humbug. " Sellers est la personnification du humbug; 
il vit d'expediens." Th. Bentzon, Rev. des Deux Mondes, 
15 Mars, 1875, p. 326. 

Hummock. " II [1'ours blanc] grimpe jusqu'au sommet 
des inontagnes ie glace appelees hummocks.' H. de La, 
Blanchere, in Dr. Chenu, 1866, p. 95. 

Iceberg. "Durant tout le mois de Juillet, elle [la Gfer- 
mania] se heurta vainement contre d'infranchissables 
agglomerations A'icebergs et de champs soudes I'un a 
1'autre." J. Gourdault, Rev. des Deux Mondes, I 1 ' Fevr., 
1875, p. 712. 

Jncorpore (with the legal meaning of incorporated, 
which does not belong to the French word). "Des ce 
moment aussi (1853) la Societe protectrice pour les 
enfans des rues etait definitivement instituee, et trois 
ans apres elle etait officiellement reconnue, incorporee, 
par un acte de la legislature de 1'etat de New-York." 
L. Simonin, loc. cit., l r Janv., 1875, p. 66. " En 1837, la 
ville [Chicago] etait incorporee, c'est-a-dire que son 
organisation municipale etait reconnue." Id. ibid., 
l r Avril, 1875, p. 568. 

Incumbent. " L'ex-vice-principal de Lampcter, devenu 
depuis peu Y incumbent ou pasteur titulaire de Broad- 
chalke [Rowland Williams]." A. Reville. loc. cit.. 
15 Aout, 1875, p. 883. 

Joint-family." L'Inde encore aujourd'hui nous offre 
dans la famille &ssociee, joint-family, comme clisent les An- 
glais, 1'image exacte du sept celtique de 1'Irlande ancienne. 
La joint-family forme un corps moral qui possede, qui 
acquiert et qui a une duree perpetuelle comme une 
societe de mainmorte." E. de Laveleye, loc. cit. t 
15 Avril, 1875, p. 792. 

King's Charles; King- Charles." Les pages conduisant j 
Icslevrettes et les King's Charles." Th. Gautier, Lesl 
Beaux- Arts en Europe, vol. ii. xxvii. p. 33. " On peutj 
encore, lorsque le renard s'est terre, faire usage de cliiens I 
de tres-petite dimension, de bassets a jambes torses et ii 
poils trcs-rudes, de petits doguins griffons, de terriers! 



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d'Ecosse, ou meme de King-Charlei." J. La Vallee, La 
Chasse <( Courre en France, iv. 153. Paris, L. Hachette 
et C ie , 1859, 2 e ed. 

Knickerbocker. "Le nom de Knickerbocker... sert a 
distinguer familierement aux Etats-Unis les descendana 
des anciens colons hollandais. Ce nom, qu'aucun dic- 
tionnaire n mentionne et dont on connait encore moina 
I'etymologie [Query: How far is this assertion correct? 
I find in Gustave Masson's Dictionary of the French 
Language, London, Macinillan & Co., 1874 : " Knicker- 
bockers, s. culotte bretonne, /."], paratt avoir etc primi 
tivement celui qu'on donuait aux culottes courtea quo 
portaient les premiers immigrans." L. Simonin, loc. cit., 
1' Dec., 1875, p. 659. 

Know-nothing. "II [Napoleon III.] n'entendait pas 
certes detruire 1'empire de Habsbourg et faire regner le 
Hohenzollern du Sund jusqu'a 1'Adriatique, ainsi que 
1'eussent facilement admis les intransigeans et lea know- 
nothing du principe de nationality. " Julian Klaczko, 
Deux Chanceliers; Rev. des Deux Mondei, 15 Aout, 1875, 
p. 774. 

HENRI GAUSSERON. 

Ayr Academy. 

(To le continued.) 



ROBERT SOUTHEY ON THE VALUE OP 
MINOR POETRY. 

Robert Southey's letters were no less remark- 
able for quantity than for quality, the Times 
describing them as " countless " models of pure 
English. In 1847 Joseph Cottle, of Bristol, 
printed a number of Southey's letters in his 
Reminiscences of Samuel Taylor Coleridge and 
Robert Southey ; six volumes of Southey's Cor- 
respondence were published in 1849 by his son, the 
Rev. diaries Cuthbert Southey ; and four more 
closely printed volumes were issued in 1856 under 
the editorship of the poet's son-in-law, the Rev. J. 
Wood Warter, B.D. ; yet I believe a large number 
of Southey's letters remain unprinted. I enclose 
a verbatim, copy of one in my possession, which is 
very characteristic, and may be interesting to 
readers of "N. & Q." as showing the laureate's 
opinion as to what kind of poetry was saleable, 
and generally of the no market-value of "minor 
poetry " sixty years ago : 

" Keswick, May 10, 1816. 

" You hare probably learnt from the newspapers that 
at the time when your packet arrived -wo were suffering 
under the severest of all afflictions, th loan of our only 
son, and that son one of the most hopeful in every 
respect that ever parents -were blest with. Under such 
a sorrow, it is only a firm, a lively, and an abiding faith 
that could support us. 

" I wish it were in my power to render any service to 
your friend, Mrs. Steele, or to offer her any useful advice. 
She certainly possesses great genius, and many parts of 
her poem are very beautiful both in feeling and ex- 
pression : I would not say this unless I thought so. But 
London booksellers are not fond of publishing poetry 
unless it come from some known name, for otherwise not 
one volume in fifty pays the expense of publication. 

" ' Eva ' is defective in story. The best way, as it appears 
to me, in which your friend could exercise and improve 
her talents is by taking some story from Roman, Eastern, 
or fairy tales, and clothing it hi verse. Great poets have 



not disdained to do this. In this way I feel confident 
that, with her powers, she would distinguish herself 
greatly, and the habits of narrative, invention, and 
arrangement would gradually be acquired. It would be 
doing injustice to my own feelings if I did not repeat that 
the present volume bears the best marks of promise, and 
that every person to whom I have shown it has admired 
it very much. 

" Mary is a sad invalid ; the greater part of her time 
is passed in a state of suffering from complaints which in 
no degree endanger life, but deprive it of almost all enjoy- 
ment. There are, however, intervals when it appears as 
if she ailed nothing. Robert is still with Mr. Pople ; his 
apprenticeship will expire next year, and then, of course, 
we shall be anxious concerning him. He has been 
seriously indisposed this spring with an obstinate cough 
of some months' standing, which is now giving way. 

"For ourselves, till this late affliction (the heaviest 
which could possibly have befallen us), no persons were 
more abundantly blessed. And we have still more 
blessings than fall to the lot of the greater part of man- 
kind, though the flower of our hopes and happiness is 
cut off. We are both beginning to show the hand of 
time. My own head is thickly sprinkled with grey hairs, 
but the last two months have done more towards de- 
priving me of a youthful hilarity of spirits than the 
course of years perhaps would ever have accomplished. 
We have four girls, the eldest has just completed her 
twelfth year, the youngest is about three ; they are all 
in good health at present, and as happy as they can be. 

"Mary and her sisters join in kindest remembrances. 
Believe me, yours very sincerely, 

"ROBERT SOUTHET. 

" We should be truly rejoiced if any circumstance 
should ever lead you this way." 

Addressed : 

" To Miss Lovell, with Benjamin Ball, Esq., 37, Leeson 
Street, Dublin." [Postage, 1*. 2d.] 

This Miss Lovell was a sister of Southey's 
brother-in-law, Robert Lovell, of whom I gave a 
short account in " K & Q.," 4 th S. v. 171. She 
died about seven years ago, upwards of eighty 
years of age, being remarkable for possession of 
her faculties and great clearness of memory. 
The Mary referred to in this letter was the wife of 
Robert Lovell, and sister of Southey's first wife. 
She resided at Keswick, with the poet, and 
'there," says the Times, "she found happiness 
until his death." Her son, Robert Lovell the 
younger, Southey apprenticed, and took a warm 
interest in his welfare until his mysterious fate in 
1836 (see "N. & Q.," ut supra). 

Who Mrs. Steele was, of what works she was 
the author, and whether she carried out Southey's 
advice, I have no means of knowing. Presumably 
other readers of " N. & Q." are more fortunate, 
and hence the possible interest of this letter to 
them. S. R. TOWNSHEND MAYER. 

Richmond, Surrey. 



FOLK-LORE. 

THE INFLUENCE OF FOLK-LORE ON A F.R.S. 
The following extract from the Autobiography 
of Dr. A. B. Granville, M.D., F.R.S. (London, 



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H. S. King & Co., 1874), may be fitly presented to 
the readers of" N. & Q." : 

Some of my readers will feel disposed to laugh out- 
right at a learned doctor admitting he is an inveterate 
believer in all sorts of popular superstitions, forebodings, 
and presentiments. I am alarmed at the spilling of a 
saltcellar; I don't like to meet a hearse while going out 
of the street door ; I would not undertake a journey or 
any important work on a Friday; and the breaking of a 
looking-glass would throw me into fits. Now this morn- 
ing,* soon after our tcte-a-tete dejeuner, I became sud- 
denly depressed in spirits, to such a degree that my fair 
hostess fancied I had been taken ill. This state of 
nervousness and depression endured after I had retired 
to my hotel, and was making ready my luggage for my 
positive departure at noon on the succeeding day, leaving 
out only the evening dress for the dinner and opera. 
On taking my place at dinner the knife and fork laid 
before me crossway startled me (I dare say I turned 
pale), but I said nothing. There Avere two attendants. 
At the next course the other valet replaced my plate, 
and again the fatal cross was laid before me ! I looked 
round to the three guests to see if it was the habit of 
the servants of the house ; they had no cross, only the 
doctor : and again the third time the same symbol made 
its appearance before me with the setting of the dessert 
and corresponding plates with gilt knife and fork, the 
two latter of -which articles again contrived to be laid 
down in a crucial form. Ah ! now there was no mistake. 
Some great crossing was about to befall me. I had bet- 
ter shut myself up for the rest of the day, give up the 
proposed d'rive and the opera, and wait until I can 
escape in the mornin;: from the doomed city. To make 
matters still more formidable, I found, on looking at my 
calendar, that it was Friday. All this mind-work I of 
course kept to myself, albeit I must have appeared 
rather more stupid than was my wont." Vol. i. p. 413, 

A few hours later Dr. Granville was arrested. 
So much for prophetic cutlery. ST. SWITIIIX. 

A FOLK-LORE SOCIETY. T am not alone in 
thinking it high time that steps should be taken 
to form a society for collecting, arranging, and 
printing all the 'scattered bits 'of folk-lore which 
we read of in books and hear of in the flesh. Such 
a society should not confine its labours to the 
1'olk-lore of our own land, but should have members 



and workers everwhere. 



ST. SWITHIX. 



THE FRENCH STATE PAPER OFFICE. 
//>>,- (In 1) 'put des Archives den Affaires Etrancicres 
' lans an Louvre tn 1710, tl Versailles en 1763 et de 
' Paris en Divers Mm/roils depuls 1796. Par 
Arinand liusdiet. Svo. Paris, Plon. 
(Concluding Article.) 

We now come to the last division of M. Baschet's 
work, including the space of time which has 
lapsed between 17SK5 and 1853. A number of 

ll-known names meet us at almost every step 

in this interesting gallery of portraits : Anquetil 

soulavie, Lemontey, Bignon, and Saint-Priest to' 

otning of the keepers of the Record Office 

' On a day in 1814 when the Doctor was 
and the guest of .Madame Martinetti. 



themselves, men who have obtained and deserved 
European celebrity. 

Count d'Hauterive must first be mentioned 
here. A friend of Talleyrand, courteous and 
obliging in private life, parfait gentilhomme, but 
doggedly resolved upon keeping the Foreign Office 
papers unsullied by the hands of historical stu- 
dents, he would have deemed the communication 
of the treaty between Karl the Bald and Ludwig 
the German fraught with danger to the state. It 
was during Count d'Hauterive's administration 
that Lemontey and Sir James Mackintosh obtained 
permission to make transcripts from the documents 
preserved in the Depot des Relations Exterieures, 
the former for the history of the reign of Louis XV., 
the latter for his account of the Revolution of 1688. 
The dragon who watched with such jealous care 
the diplomatic garden of the Hesperides was obliged 
to yield ; but, if he could not wreak his vengeance 
upon the English statesman, he made, at any rate, 
Lemontey 's heirs smart for it. Immediately after 
the historian's death, all his papers, notes, and MSS. 
were seized and confiscated, and the Gazette des 
Tribunaux for August, 1826, contains the details 
of the lawsuit which resulted from that unwarrant- 
able act of administrative caprice. 

To Count d'Hauterive succeeded, in 1830, M. 
Mignet, the present distinguished secretary of the 
Academic des Sciences Morales et Politiques. 
Thanks to INI. Guizot's initiative, a vigorous impetus 
had been given to historical studies, and M. Baschet 
takes the opportunity of appreciating in detail the 
results of this species of scientific revival, paying 
at the same time a tribute of just praise to the 
learned editor of the Negotiations relatives a la 
Succession d'Espagne. 

I shall say nothing of Messrs. Carteron and 
Cintrat. who occupied successively the post which 
M. Mignet left vacant when the Revolution of 
1848 broke out. M. Prosper Faugere, on the other 
hand, deserves a distinct notice"; and I wish I 
could translate in extenso M. Baschet's biographical 
sketch of this excellent French scholar. But I 
must forbear, and remain satisfied with alluding 
to the controversy which broke out between him 
and M. Victor Cousin on the subject of Pascal's 
Pensees, the latter not only maintaining that the 
austere Port-Royalist was in love, but trying to find 
out what lady had succeeded in winning his affec- 
tion ; the former indignantly protesting against 
the cynicism which transformed Pascal into a kind 
of inamorato. These literary debates, however, 
lave nothing to do with M. Faugere's fitness for 
lis post as Keeper of the Archives at the French 
Foreign Office. It would be impossible to imagine 
a better choice in every respect ; and the ghost of 
Door D'Hauterive must feel dismayed indeed at the 
irospect of the liberal reforms which the Duke 
Decazes, supported by his able coadjutor, has 
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Baschet belongs the glory of having demonstrated 
the imperative necessity of such reforms. 

GUSTAVE MASSON. 



PARALLEL PASSAGES. 

The following extracts from Sir William Jones's 
-Commentaries on Asiatic Poetry, printed in 
" London by Richardson, and sold by Cadell, in 
the Strand," " 1774," may interest your readers : 

"Ad Arabas et Persas veniamus. Illi in poesi 
amatoria similitudinibus ex natura deductis admodum 
delectantur. Assimilant puellarum cincinnos hyacinthis, 
genas rosis, oculos, nunc ob colorem, violis, nunc ob ama- 
'bilem ilium languorem, narcissis, dentes margaritis, pa- 
pillas malis Punicis, oscula melli ac vino, labia pyropis, 
staturam proceris ramulis, faciem soli, crines nocti, 
frontem auroras, ipsas denique puellas capreolis et 
hinnuleis." P. 176. 

He then quotes at length an anonymous Arab 
spoet, and says : 

" Mire base descriptio, ut multse in Asiaticorum carmi- 



prope 

(also quoted in the original). " Favi stillantes labia 
tua," &c. Solomon's Song, iv. 11. 

Quoting the ChoepJiorce of ^Eschylus, Sir William 
remarks : 

"Mire haec conveniunt cum Shakespeari nostri 
prasclara tragoedia (Macbeth) qua nee Graacos poetae nee 
Latinos quidquam habuisse puto excelsius, aut magni- 
ficentius." P. 250. 
Again, 

"Magnificum habemus Hylrm Cretensis OKO\IOV " 
(preserved by Athenasus) " quod ide6 citabo, quia veterum 
Arabum po.esi sit persimile." 

'Eori fjLOi TrXovTog p.sya copv 
Kai Z,i<f>OQ, Kal TO KaXbv Xaivrj'iov, &c. 
" Sic poeta aritiquus in Hamasa " (quoted in the original). 
" Noii sunt mihi opes praster loricam et cassidem, 
Et ensem," &c. 

HERBERT RANDOLPH. 
Worthing. 

I have always thought that there was a marked 
'resemblance between 1 Kings xxii. 8, where Ahab 
says that he hates Micaiah, "for he doth not 
prophesy good concerning me, but evil," and 
Homer, Iliad, i. 106, seqq., where Agamemnon 
says to Chryses, 

McU/Tt Ktt/OOV, OV TTCUTTOTe [JLOL TV K 

atec rot TO, KO.K' ICTTI <iA.a (frptcrl 

O-0\OV S' OVT6 TL 7TO) ?7TeS 7TOS 

This is rendered by Lord Derby : 
" Prophet of ill ! thou never speak'st to me 
But words of evil omen ; for thy soul 
Delights to augur ill, but aught of good 
Thou never yet hast promised, nor performed." 

P. J. F. GANTILLON. 

( Ev'n thought meets thought, ere from the lips it part, 
And each warm wish springs mutual from the heart." 
Pope, Eloisa to Alelard. 



" And Thought leapt out to wed with Thought, 
Ere Thought could wed itself with Speech." 

Tennyson, In Memortant. 
EGBERT J. C. CONNOLLY, Clk. 
Rathangan, co. Kildare. 

One short text of the Paradise Lost indebts 
Milton to two sources, lying widely apart, bk. i. 
v. 66-7 : 

" Hope never comes, 
That comes to all." 

The exclusion of Hope from the "regions of 
sorrow " looks up distinctly and unquestionably to 
Dante's terrible writing over his Hell-gate : 

" Lasciate ogni speranza voi ch' entrate." 
But the cast of expression is from Euripides, 
Troades, v. 676-7, Andromache speaking : 
'E/XO6 yap OTjS', o TraVt Act/rexac /Jporots, 
vv<riv eATTts. 

EREM. 

" To know the future, look back on the past. The 
prophet's mirror hangs behind him." German Proverb. 
" Tell me, Philosopher, is it a crime 
To pry into the secret womb of Time ; 
Or, born in ignorance, must we despair 
To reach events, and read the future there ? 
Why, be it so still 'tis the right of man, 
Imparted by his Maker, where he can, 
To former times and men his eye to cast, 
And judge of what 's to come by what is past." 

Churchill, The Farewell 
WM. FREELOVE. 
Bury St. Edmunds. 

"She, mouldering 

Lay there exiled from eternal God." 

Tennyson, Palace of Art. 

(l They being shut up .... lay there exiled from the 
eternal providence." Wisdom xvii. 2. 

" And knows not if it be thunder, or a sound 
Of stones thrown down, or one deep cry 
Of great wild beasts." Tennyson. 
'' Or a terrible sound of stones cast down .... or a 
roaring voice of most savage wild beasts." 

Wisdom xvii. 19. 
C. F. S. WARREN, M.A. 
Bexhill. 



" SUPPLEMENT TO GRAY'S ' ELEGY IN A CHURCH- 
YARD ' (from an American paper)." Such is the 
title of what follows, in prose and verse, and 
which I have met with in Collet's (Bryerley's) 
Relics of Literature : 

" The celebrated Elegy, by Gray, is well known and. 
Justly admired by every one who has the least preten- 
sions to taste. But with all its polish, and deep poetic 
beauty and feeling, it always appeared to me to be 
defective, and I have met with a remark in Cecil's 
Remains to the same effect. Amid a scene so well calcu- 
ated to awaken in a pious mind reflections on the sublime 
;ruths and inspiring hopes of Christianity, Gray, with 
the exception of two or three somewhat equivocal ex- 
pressions, says scarcely a word which might not have 



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teen said by one who believed that ' death was an eternal 
sleep 'and who was disposed to regard the humble tenants 
of ?Le tombs as indeed 'each in his narrow .cell .for 
ever laid ' With these views, I have regretted that senti- 
ments similar to the following had not sprung up in the 
heart, and received the exquisite touches of the classic 
pen of Gray. I do not offer them to supply the defi- 
ciency, an attempt as presumptuous and hopeless as that 
of the English artists to repair the mutilations which 
time or accident had occasioned among the inimitable 
relics of Grecian genius. The lines might with great 
propriety have followed the stanza beginning, Far from 
the madding crowd's ignoble strife ' : 
No airy dreams their simple fancies fired, 

No thirst for wealth, nor panting after fame ; 
But truth divine sublimer hopes inspired, 

And urged them onward to a nobler aim. 

From every cottage, with the day arose 
The hallowed voice of spirit-breathing prayer ; 

And artless anthems, at its peaceful close, 
Like holy incense, charmed the evening air. 

Though they, each tome of human law unknown, 

The brilliant path of science never trod, 
The sacred volume claimed their hearts alone, 

Which taught the way to glory and to God. 

Here they from truth's eternal fountain drew 
The pure and gladdening waters day by day; 

Learnt, since our days are evil, fleet, and few, 
To walk in wisdom's bright and peaceful way. 

In von lone pile, o'er which hath sternly pass'd 
The heavy hand of all-destroying Time, 

Through whose low mouldering aisles now sighs the blast, 
And round whose altars grass and ivy climb, 

They gladly thronged, their grateful hymns to raise, 
Oft as the calm and holy Sabbath shone ; 

The mingled tribute of their prayers and praise 
In sweet communion rose before the throne. 

Here, from those honoured lips, which sacred fire 
From Heaven's high chancery hath touched, they hear 

Truths *,vhich their zeal inflame, their hopes inspire, 
Give wings to faith, and check affliction's tear. 

When life flowed by, and, like an angel, Death 
Came to release them to the world on high, 

Praise trembled still on each expiring breath, 
And holy triumph beamed from every eye. 

Then gentle hands their ' dust to dust ' consign ; 

With quiet tears, the simple rites are said, 
And here they sleep, till at the trump divine 

The earth and ocean render up their dead. 
Rhode Island, America." 

Perhaps some of your correspondents in America 
may be able to say who the author of the above 
lines was. They were written about fifty years 
; >go. FREDK. RULE. 

MISTLETOE IN GRIMSTIIORPE PARK : A LARGE 
BOUGH FROM BRETAGNE. Mistletoe grows very 
freely in the hawthorns and other trees in Grims- 
thorpe Park, Lincolnshire, though it is not to be 
found elsewhere in the neighbourhood. People 
have been accustomed to come from long distances, 
especially from London and Manchester, in order 
to gather the mistletoe, and have brought with 
them carts to carry off the spoil. Besides thus 



committing a trespass, they disturbed the red deer 
in the park, and greatly damaged the trees. Lady 
Willoughby de Eresby has, therefore, been com- 
pelled to protect her property by employing addi- 
tional watchers in the park during the ^inonth 
before Christmas, in order to prevent the mistletoe 
from being interfered with and stolen. During 
this past December, fourteen extra watchers were 
thus engaged. Some of the boughs of mistletoe in 
Grimsthorpe Park are very large, though I cannot 
say that they can rival a bough of mistletoe that 
was sent by my friend Dr. Phene, F.S.A., this last 
December, to the Rev. Thomas Wiltshire, F.G.S., 
in the hall of whose house, at Granville Park, 
Lewisham, it was hung on Christmas Eve. The 
bough was procured by Dr. Phene from the " wild 
woods of Broceliande," in Bretagne, and, when 
gathered, measured ten feet in circumference. It 
lost but little of its grand dimensions in transit, 
and is, perhaps, the largest mistletoe bough ever 
imported into La Grande from La Petite Bretagne. 
One of the most scientific features in connexion 
with this botanical tour has recently been pub- 
lished in the Gardeners' Chronicle; but the bough 
of mistletoe seems to deserve special mention. 

CUTHBERT BEDE. 

WITCHCRAFT. IN WARWICKSHIRE. It is worthy 
of note that at Warwick assizes, on Dec. 15, 1875, 
during the trial of James Haywood (who was 
found to have been insane at the time) for the- 
murder of Anne Tennant, aged eighty years, at 
Long Compton, " it was proved in evidence that 
fully one-third of the villagers believed in witch- 
craft" (Standard newspaper, Dec. 16, 1875). 

THOMAS NORTH. 

The Bank, Leicester. 

" BONNIE ANNIE LAURIE." The heroine of this 
popular song was eldest of the three daughters 
of Sir Eobert Laurie, first baronet of Maxwelton, 
Dumfriesshire. Her sisters were Violet and Su- 
sanna. Sir Robert Laurie was descended from a 
family of respectable merchant burgesses in the 
town of Dumfries. He received his diploma of 
baronetcy on March 27, 1685. He married Joan, 
eldest daughter of Walter Riddell, writer to the 
signet. The marriage contract is dated at Edin- 
burgh, January 25, 1687. On May 13, 1708,. 
Anne Laurie granted a discharge to her brother, 
Sir Walter Riddell, Bart., for all debts due by him 
as representative of their family. She married in 
1709 James Fergusson, of Craigdanoch, who was 
returned here by his father, Alexander Fergusson, 
M.P. for the Dumfries burghs. "Bonnie Annie 
Laurie " was mother of Alexander Fergusson, the 
hero of Burns's song, " The Whistle." Her admirer, 
who composed the song in her praise, was William 
Douglas, of Fingland, in the stewartry of Kirkcud- 
bright. This gentleman, according to Dr. C. T. 
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duellist, and is said to be the hero of the song 
" Willie was a wanton wag." CHARLES KOGERS. 
Grampian Lodge, Forest Hill, S.E. 



[We must request correspondents desiring information 
on family matters of only private interest, to affix their 
names and addresses to their queries, in order that the 
answers may be addressed to them direct.] 



THORNTON'S " TOUR IN SCOTLAND." In 1804 was 
published A Sporting Tour through the Northern 
Parts of England, and Great Part of the High- 
lands of Scotland, &c., by Colonel T. Thornton, of 
Thornville Eoyal, in Yorkshire. The year, in 
which the tour described in this very extraordinary 
book was made, seems to be nowhere mentioned by 
the author, yet ^should judge that it could be easily 
determined from internal evidence by any one well 
acquainted with the state of Scottish society to- 
Tvards the end of the last century. Was it in 
1785? 

PENNANT'S "BRITISH ZOOLOGY." An edition 
of this work was published in 1812, containing 
many additions, but the editor's name is not 
given. Who was he ? The author of a memoir 
of Latham in the Naturalist for October, 1838 
(iv. p. 31), says a "second " edition of the British 
Zoology was published by Pennant's son, and the 
context shows that the edition of 1812 is meant, 
TDut the writer is of course wrong in calling it the 
second. Bennett, in his edition of White's Sel- 
borne (p.. 113, note), says that the editor of the 
1812 edition of Pennant was "believed" to be 
" Mr. Hanmer," and the late Dr. Gray told me 
that he had furnished Bennett with that informa- 
tion, though he could tell me nothing of Hanmer, 
nor can I learn anything of him from others to 
whom I have applied. Whoever the editor may 
have been, he was, as his notes show, a very com- 
petent zoologist, and this fact increases my desire 
to identify him. 

" ENCYCLOPEDIA LONDINENSIS." The zoologi- 
cal portion of this work, which appeared between 
1795 and 1829, contains a good deal more original 
matter than most of its kind in those days did, 
and perhaps deserves some attention. Yet the 
name of the contributor or contributors is nowhere 
given that I can ascertain. The compiler, " John 
mikes, of Midland House, in the county of Sus- 
sex, Esquire," announces himself as having been 
<: assisted by eminent scholars of the English, 
Scotch, and Irish Universities." Can any one say 
"who they may have been, and especially the author 
or authors of the zoological articles 1 

I should be greatly obliged to any of your 
readers who would answer the above questions. 
ALFRED NEWTON. 

Magdalene College, Cambridge. 



ETYMOLOGY OF " CAD." In the article " Law 
and Crime," in the Pictorial World, Dec. 18, 1875, 
was the following paragraph : 

"Said the Lord Chief Justice, in a recent case of 
libel : I have often heard of the word " cad," but I 
never knew what it meant ; however, it is a term of op- 
probrium, I suppose.' The interpretation was not given 
in court. It is just this : the last born of a farrow is a 
poor little pig a weakling, and is commonly, in the 
country, called the cad. The slang is apparently an 
abbreviation of the French 'cadet,' which Ogilvie's Dic- 
tionary gives as ' the younger of two brothers ; the 
youngest son.' That the elder son, inheriting the youth- 
ful strength of his progenitors, is commonly the stronger, 
and therefore more worthy of the heirship, is the essence 
and foundation of the old feudal law of primogeniture." 

In the Slang Dictionary (Hotten) it is attempted 
to be shown that cad is a corruption of cadger. It 
also states that "the exclusives at the English 
universities apply the term cad to all non-mem- 
bers," a fact (?) which, " when found, make a note 
of." Why should an omnibus conductor be called 
a cad ? And in what counties is the little weak- 
ling pig (mentioned in the above extract) known 
as the cad ? CUTHBERT BEDE. 

GENEALOGICAL. In an examination lately of 
quite a mass of MS. pedigrees of the numerous 
ramifications of the Scottish family of Gordon, in 
search of a Walter Gordon who lived in Aberdeen- 
shire in the earlier part of the seventeenth century 
(say about 1612), it has struck me as remarkable 
that this baptismal name occurs only twice in the 
many centuries embraced in the pedigrees : in the 
one case, the name of a son of Gordon of Bel- 
dornie, and married to a lady of the name of 
Lyon ; and in the other, the name of one of the two 
natural sons of William Gordon, the last E. C. 
Bishop of Aberdeen. We know that this second 
Walter succeeded his elder brother John in cer- 
tain real property in Old Aberdeen, within the 
"'hanonry, probably the gift of the bishop, if we 
are to believe Archbishop Spottiswoode's account 
of the alienations he made of the property of the 
see. We also know that this Walter married, and 
was dead before March 16, 1615, as his son 
William served heir to him on that date (Aber- 
deen Eetours, No. 137). I wish particularly to 
mow what was the name of this Walter's wife. 
The Walter of whom I am in search was married 
to a Marat Inis (Marjorie Innes). G. S. 

OAK CABINET, 1678. I have in my possession 
an oak cabinet, or buffet, bearing date 1678, 
hough in style it might well belong to a period 
lalf a century earlier. It came from an old house 
n the North Riding of Yorkshire. It has a central 
panel, at the back of the upper and open part, 
carved in high relief. This panel represents a 
warrior on horseback charging a standing figure, 
apparently a woman, having a sword in his or 
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town, with roofs and gables of houses beyond. 
Two figures stand side by side on the battlements 
us spectators of the scene below. Is this merely 
an imaginary subject ? or was it intended by the 
carver to represent some incident, and what ? 

C. E. H. C. H. 

DAVID GARRICK'S BOOK-PLATE. Some time 
a^o I bought at Worcester a well-preserved copy 
of an English translation of Cicero's Letters, in 
3 vols., "printed for R. Dodsley in Pall Mall, 
1753," which, I may reasonably believe, once 
belonged to the great actor, for it contains on the 
inside" of the binding of the first volume his book- 
plate. "DAVID GARRICK" is engraved in clear 
letters in the centre of a shield-like frame of 
flowering tracery, bearing, at the upper sides and 
at the bottom, symbols of the mimetic art the 
mask, jester's head, &c. At the top of the frame 
are the head and shoulders of Shakspeare, after the 
" Chandos " type, and, although the engraving is 
so small, the' traditional earring is plainly dis- 
cernible. Under the outline of the frame is 
printed the following : 

" La premiere chose qu'on doit faire quand on a 
emprunte nn livre, c'est de le lire, afin de pouvoir le 
rendre plutot.'' Menagiana, vol. iv. 

The fame still attaching to Garrick's memory 
may make the mention of my possession interest- 
ing to more than mere book-plate collectors. We 
may, I think, surmise, without any exaggeration 
of fancy, that he himself designed the plate. 

Can any reader of " N. & Q." tell me the nature 
or authorship of Menagiana, whence the singularly 
apt advice to book- borrowers professes to be taken ? 

A. L. G. 

CUCKOO=CUCKOLD. Mr. Latouche, in his in- 
teresting book on Portugal, gives as an instance 
of the .sensitiveness, or rather squeamishness, of 
the Portuguese with regard to the use of certain 
words, such as j>ly, in ordinary conversation, their 
never mentioning " the name of a well-known mi- 
gratory bird mentioned allusively by Moliere and 
.Shakspeare." What is the bird ? T. B. 

[Without doubt " cuckoo," regularly used for "cuck 

tfee Shakspeare's Spring song at the end of Love\ 

Labour's Lost : 

" The cuckoo then, on every tree, 
-Mocks married men, for thus sings he, 

Cuckoo, 

Cuckoo, cuckoo ! O word of fear, 
Unpleasing to a married ear ! " 
See also ' The Cuckoo." in Mr. Furnivall's Love Poem 
id Humourous Ones, Ballad Society, &c.] 

"Two XOBLK KINSMEN," in. 5, 49-51. 
" An eele and woman, 
A learned Poet sayss : unles by th' taile 
And with thy teeth thou hold, will either faile." 
Who was the "learned poet"? I can find n 
classical phrase at all like this, except the proverl 



n Plaut., Pseud, ii. iv. 56, "anguilla est, elabitur." 
Anguillam cauda tenes " is given in Bonn's Diet, 
jlass. Quotations ; but neither of these expressions 
s applied to women. Pope, Dunciad, i. 280, 
' Holds the eel of Science by the tail." Fletcher 
illudes to the proverb again in The Scornful 
Lady, ii. 1, " I will end with the wise man, and 
>ay, ' He that holds a woman has an eel by the 
ail.' " Valentinian, i. 1, " and, if all fail, this is 
;he first quick eel that saved her tail." The 
fiances, iii. 3, "an eel's tail." The Prophetess, 
ii. 2, " hold her fast, she will slip through your 
fingers like an eel else." 

HAROLD LITTLEDALE. 
Trin. Coll., Dublin. 

" CATAMARAN." Will any one inform me how 
;his word has come to be used as a term of oppro- 
brium, applied to an old woman ? It is so used 
)y Thackeray with reference to Lady Baker, Mrs. 
Greneral Baynes, &c. The etymology of the word 
LS the Tamil katta=tied, and maram=trees. logs ; 
ind the small rafts called catamarans are well 
known to every visitor to the East Indies. 

TENEOR. 

Ceylon. 

" HISTOIRE DES TROUBLES DE HONGRIE." Who 
was the author of the above, published, with curious 
engravings, Paris, 1686, chez Guillaume de Luynes? 

W. M. M. 

GEORGE HUTCHINSON. Born in Edinburgh, 
married in co. Tyrone, Ireland, a few years pre- 
vious to 1755, and afterwards came to Philadelphia. 
Can any one give the name of his wife, date of 
marriage, and any information relating to his de- 
scent ? G. A. L. 

De Lancey Place, Philadelphia. 

PIPE'S GROUND. Where was this place, near or 
adjoining the Houses of Parliament, and the scene 
of the duel of Horatio Walpole (Lord Walpole of 
Woolterton) and Mr. Chetwynd, mentioned in 
Horace Walpole's Letter to Mann, March 14, 
1743, edit. 1857 ? 0. 

WELLINGTON AT ASTLEY'S. On the occasion of 
the Duke's visit to see the Battle of Waterloo 
there, the stage duke was unwilling to appear, as 
he heard that his prototype was in the theatre, and 
would not until invited to do so. What is the 
date of that event 1 GEORGE ELLIS. 

St. John's Wood. 

[About fifty years ago the Battle of Waterloo was raging 
at Astley's Theatre, where the mimic Napoleon was 
played by Mr. Gomersal. He died at Leeds, 1862, aged 
seventy-four. The incident noticed above is strictly 
true.] 

CHALMERS'S "CALEDONIA." The MS. of vol. iv. 
of this great national work is said, in Lowndes, to> 
have been sold to Mr. Thorpe. Was it ever published,, 



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and, if not, what prevented its appearing ? Mr. 
Chalmers's Topographical Dictionary of Scotlmul 
in nine vols., in MS., is also said to have been sold 
at the same time to Mr. Thorpe ; and I cannot 
find any trace of its having been published, or of 
vol. iv. of the Caledonia. Surely such valuable 
MSS., involving so much labour and research on 
the part of the industrious and " conscientious " 
compiler, should not be allowed to perish, without 
some efforts being made for their publication. 

J. MAC RAT. 
Oxford. 

WHY is EASTER ON THE 16TH OF APRIL THIS 
YEAR? According to the tables in the Prayer 
Book 

" Easter Day is always the first Sunday after the full 
moon which happens upon, or next after, the 21st day 
of March ; and, if the full moon happens upon a Sunday, 
Easter Day is the Sunday after." 

The first full moon this year, after March 21, i 
on Saturday, April 8. Why is not Easter Day on 
April 9 ? C. H. 

THE following statement occurs in John S. 
Piercy's History of Retford, p. 213 : 

" In the ecclesiastical history of this place [Ordsall] 
two very remarkable instances of persecution occur.... 
The other is the case of the Rev. Marmaduke Moore, 
also rector of this parish, whose paternal estate, on the 
18th of November, 1652, was forfeited for treason and 
himself sequestrated from his living for the heinous and 
damnable offence of playing at cards three several times 
with, his own wife." 

Can any of your readers tell what is the truth 
about this, if, indeed, there be any truth whatever 
to be found ? Card playing was not " treason " in 
1652, or at any time before or since. 

A. 0. Y. P. 

DEDICATIONS OF EUTLAND CHURCHES. To 
what saints are the following churches in Rutland 
dedicated (authorities differ) Belton, Exton, Nor- 
manton, Seaton, Stretton, Tickencote, Tixover, 
Wardley? THOMAS NORTH. 

The Bank, Leicester. 

GAMES AT CARDS. In an old MS. diary of 
1629 I find mention of the following 
" Games at Chartes. Ruffe, trumpe, slam'e, Gleeke, Xew- 
cut, Swigg, Loadam, Putt, primifisty, post and pair, 
Bone-ace, Anakin, seven cardes, one and thirty, my sewe 
has pig'd." 

Can any one explain how the italicized games 
were played, or where further mention of them 
may be found ? W. H. ALLNUTT. 

Oxford. 

NAVAL ENGAGEMENT. Can you refer me to the 
particulars and date of an engagement between 
the Gylikhied, 68 guns, and the Veteran? The 
following inscription appears upon two glass 

* See Quarterly Review, October, 1875, article " The 
Maules of Panmure." 



goblets, beautifully cut : " The Gylikhied, 68 
guns, struck to the Veteran ; W. H. and I. S. E.," 
and the two ships are also cut on the glass. It 
does not state how many guns the Veteran carried, 
which I should be glad to find out, with all other 
particulars. I. M. E. 

B. DE MANDEVILLE. Is there any biography of 
the author of the Fable of the Bees ? Where can I 
find a complete list of his works, with date and 
place of publication, &c. 1 If no biography, what 
are the best sources of information as to his life 
and opinions ? JOHNSTONE. 

VARIOUS. Would any of the readers of 
" N. & Q." answer me these questions ? 

1. What is the meaning of " casting and 
plashing " a hedge ? (N.B. In Cornwall we call 
any fence, stone or otherwise, which has vegeta- 
tion on it, a " hedge.") The latter word refers, I 
believe, to taking turf from the ditch, and with it 
shaping the top of the hedge. 

2. There is an instrument used in the cultiva- 
tion of the wheat which is called in West Corn- 
wall an " Idiot." This, I am told, is a corruption 
of " Hitch-it." It is the toothed instrument used 
before the harrow. Is this derivation correct ? 

3. Is there anywhere a collection of the names 
of the various pies eaten by the Cornish 1 Halli- 
well, I think, in his Western Cornwall, mentions 
some 200, but does not name them. The two 
most celebrated in story are " Starry-gazy " and 
"Lammy Pie," the first consisting of pilchards, 
with the heads of the fishes gazing at the stars 
through a hole in the middle of the crust. The 
latter is mentioned by Tregellas as having been 
given to a Cockney, who, after eating it, was told 
that it was made " out of our old goat." Are these 
pies apocryphal, or were they ever part of the 
staple food of the Cornish people 1 

4. Near Eedruth is a mine called "Cook's 
Kitchen." What is the meaning of the name 1 

THURSTAN C. PETER. 
Redruth. 

" THE MYSTERIOUS GENTLEMAN." Has this 
story, by the late George Hodder, been published, 
and if so, where 1 I possess the original MS. 

L. H. D. E. 

" THE HEIR or MONDOLPO," BY MRS. SHELLEY. 
Can any one acquainted with the works of Mrs. 
Shelley inform me where and when this story was 
ublished ? FITZ. 



THE GIPSIES. 

(5 th S. ii. 421 ; iii. 409 ; v. 52, 97.) 
MR. SIMSON, who was an ardent admirer of the 
:heory that Bunyan was a Gipsy, may be said to 
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are, in his letter to " N. & Q.," 2 nd S. iv. 465. Be 
that question as it may, I think MR. KILGOUR 
has been rather too hasty in imagining that the 
Agyrtw were Cairds, i.e. Gipsies, from the Grimm 
resemblance of their names, and the similarity of 
some of their habits, as described by Dr. Wilson. 

Surely the Agyrtce were the exact counterpart 
of our ancient Lymitours. Turning to Halliwell 
and Wright's edition of Nares's Dictionary, I find, 
under the head " Limit " : 

" Popishe friers were, and are, but ydlers and loytering 
vagabonded good for nothing, but, even as flies flie 
abroade, upon all mennes meate, to fill themselves of 
other niens travels, even so doe they ; for they go ydelly 
a limiting abrode, living upon the sireat of other niens 
travels." Xorthbrooke, Against Dicing, &c., 1577. 

Then, in Dr. Smith's Smaller Dictionary of 
Greek and Roman Antiquities, London, 1853, oc- 
curs : 

"^AgyrtjB (ayuprai), mendicant priests, who were 
accustomed to travel through the different towns of 
Greece, soliciting alms for the Gods, whom they 
served, and whose images they carried, either on 
their shoulders or on beasts of burthen. They were, 
generally speaking, persons of the lowest and most 
abandoned character." 

Finally, Liddell and Scott's Greek- English Lexi- 
con, 1S'>,3, furnishes us with : 

"'Ayypr?;c, ov, o (aya'pw), orig. a yatliercr, collector, 
Mqrpuog (cf. /*?/rpayi'pr?;c. [a begging priest of Cy- 
bek-J), A nth. P. 6, 218: hence usu. a bcyyar, vagabond, 
Eur. ]lhes. 503, 715; a fortune-teller, juggler, quack, 
cheat, Plut, Soph. O. T. 3S8, Plat. Rep. 364 B." 

The resemblance between the Agyrtce and the 
Gipsies has been before remarked on, in what may 
be called the dark ages of our knowledge of the 
latter. M. Bataillard. (De I' Apparition et de la 
Dispersion des Bohcmiens en Europe, Paris, 1844, 
p. 53) says : 

"It is in the first years of the administration of 
Sten Sture, ?. e. about 1513 or 1514, that the Gipsies 
began to show themselves in Sweden. ...Immediately 
after the mention of the elevation of Steu comes the 

lowing passage, 'sub cujus regimine, i!li Sueciam 
agj/rtcc ac circumforanei prinmm ingress! Zigani, vuKo 
iartan bodierno nuncupati/ Job. Messcnii Xcondia 11- 

andi ' &c - stock - 



And Swinburne (Travels through Spain, Lon- 
don, 1 , 87, vol. i. p. 350) says, in speaking of the 
Gipsies in Spain : 

" The received opinion sets them down for Egyptians 
and makes them ouUo be the descendants of thSe^aga-' 

ancfent R T /? 8 ' wh i appear to have ^ercised in 

as that 



fullfiwViI I v 7i - e same P rote ssion as that 

by the present Gipsies, viz., fortune tellin- 
Hing up and down, and pilfering." 

If MR. KiLrjouR will refer to Simson's Hist, of 
to, P. 08, he will observe that Gipsies in 
150 3 ^ere new-comers to Scotland. The words 
M fines nostn regni dudwn advenerat" and 

iliquot menses hie versatus, ' admit of K- -^- 



" Who are the Gipsies ? " seems likely to remain 
a vexata qucestio. A Gipsy once told me that Gen. 
iv. 20 referred to his race. The idea is quite as 
plausible as some that have been started, and has 
the merit of beginning at the beginning. 

M. Bataillard of Paris, who has written several 
most interesting and sterling articles on various 
Gipsy subjects, and who has devoted his life to 
the collection and careful examination of a vast 
mass of materials of all kinds, has long ago pro- 
mised us a book, which promises to be a fit ethno- 
logical companion to Dr. Pott's well-known work 
on their language. 

For the latest ideas on the antiquity of the 
existence of the Gipsies in Europe I would refer 
MR. KILGOUR to M. Bataillard's letter in La 
Eevue Critique, Sept. 25, Oct. 2 and 9, 1875, "Sur 
les Origines des Bohemiens, ou Tsiganes, avec 1'Ex- 
plication du Norn Tsigane," and separately pub- 
lished by Librairie A. Franck, Eue Eichelieu. 67. 
Paris, 1875. 

Can MR. KILGOUR refer me to an authority for 
the date, "about 1122," of the paraphrase of 
Genesis, mentioned in Chambers's Encyclopaedia? 

H. T. CROFTON. 
Manchester. 

MR. KILGOUR mentions a notice of Gipsies as 
early as 1122 A. D., also, still earlier, a supposed one 
by Cicero. Is it not very probable that the " Ped- 
lars " (Mercatores), from whom Caesar, when in 
Gaul, received information about Britain, were 
also Gipsies ? E. LEATON BLENKINSOPP. 

Tinker is, in my humble opinion, the English 
form of a word known, in its Italian form, as 
Zingaro (pronounced Tsingaro), meaning a Gipsy. 
The thorough identity of Tinker and Zingaro in 
meaning, and viewing them philologieally the 
thorough closeness of their relationship in their 
sound^ and in their spelling, seem to me to put 
this highly interesting conclusion beyond all ques- 
tion. There is good reason for believing that this 
conclusion will, in due time, play a very important 
part ^in solving the great problem, Who are the 
Gipsies ? There is, at present, so much prejudice 
and foregone conclusion with reference to the 
Gipsies, that I scarcely care to take up your space 
with any further remarks on the subject at this 
ime. MR. SMITH says that Tinkler means a par- 
Ocular craft, not a race of people ; and in proof of 
this adds that there is no Eomany word that he 
ever heard of from which it could be derived. 
This assumes that the Gipsies gave themselves the 
name of Tinklers, of which there is no proof, and, 
it may be added, no probability. The Gipsies did 
not, so far as I am aware, give themselves their 
other name of the Gipsies. MR. SMITH also says 
that the Gipsies came into Scotland about 1506, 
meaning, as I understand the remark, that they 
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date ; but of this, again, there is no proof. Some 
Gipsies may have then come into Scotland, just as 
some did some few years ago ; but that is no 
ground whatever for concluding that there were 
no Gipsies in Scotland prior, and long prior, to 
1506. There is not the vestige of a ground, that 
I am aware of, for holding that Gipsy, Tinker, and 
Tinkler did not originally denote the same wan- 
dering people, these names being still used for 
that purpose. DR. KAMAGE'S item of proof, con- 
nected with the city of Perth, is of value, and 
tends to bear out the views expressed by me in 
former notes. I have no hesitation in saying that 
the ordinary ideas as to the Gipsies are erroneous. 
MR. SMITH speaks of them as being a different 
race. Different from whom ? There is a num- 
ber of what may be termed different races in the 
United Kingdom, though they are now a good 
deal intermixed ; and, if the Gipsies are a different 
race from the other races, they only add one more 
to the number. I have some further notes on the 
subject which may be given on a future occasion. 
HENRY KILQOUR. 



MILTON'S FORESTRY (5 th S. v. 43, 91.) I might* 
certainly, have carried a little further my remarks 
In defence of Milton. I aimed at brevity, how- 
ever, so far as consistent with my purpose. But 
it is due to Mr. Menzies to say that the omission 
of the comma after " groves " was mine. Finding 
that the punctuation whether of Mr. Menzies or 
the reviewer I know not in the Times was wrong 
(e. g. the line, 

"With singed top their stately growth, though bare," 
had a colon after " top "), and knowing how the 
pointing varies in different editions, I thought it 
better to omit the points, especially as the quota- 
tions were to serve, as it were, twice. Writing the 
day after the review appeared, I was unwilling to 
lose the chance of my letter appearing in the fol- 
lowing number of "N. & Q.," as I thought I 
should do if I dealt with the punctuation. I 
ought, however, to have mentioned the omission. 

That Milton does not connect the " arched 
walks " with the oak and pine seems open to some 
doubt, for in two of the three editions I have re- 
ferred to there are commas after " brown " and 
" loves." And what authority is there for Silvan, 
as Milton's text ? But I fear I shall be called 
hypercritical. 

With reference to the word " brown," I would 
ask MR. COLLINS whether he had considered p. 240 
in vol. iii. of Modern Painters, together with the 
other instances of Milton's use of the word in 
P. E., ii. 293, iii. 326 ; P. L., ix. 1088 ; and 
Lye. 2 : especially the second of these before de- 
ciding that the word is not equivalent to bruno, 
dark. 

The simplest meaning of " monumental oak " is 



probably the best. Still, the holm-oak might be 
called a " monumental " tree, just as a yew or a 
cypress might, from its sombre colour, sempervi- 
rency, and suitability for association with graves 
and monuments ; and I once thought this epithet 
was used to distinguish the tree from the " forest- 
oak" of P. L., i. 612, or from the oak simple : nor 
is it irrelevant, in reply to a gentleman like Mr. 
Menzies, who declares that " no reason is known," 
to state some three or four admissible reasons for 
using a particular word. II Penseroso was written 
before Milton went abroad, so that he was not 
using Italian memories. 

Every observer can testify to the truth of MR. 
COLLINS'S remarks upon the elm ; but if their 
truth were not so obvious, he would be a bold man 
who should say that a particular avenue or tree, 
described some 240 years ago, was not, to all poetic 
intents, star-proof. Though I have seen many 
lightning-stricken trees, I doubted whether I could 
vouch for the truth of the epithet " singed." If 
MR. COLLINS can do this, the further question as 
to the top of the oak being singed seems, practi- 
cally, settled. For it is said further on in the 
review that " a tree, to take fire at all, must be 
old," and that " lightning selects the finest and 
largest of living trees, whose wood is too green to 
burn." This, coupled with the admission of " a 
sort of baldness " to which the oak is liable, and 
which is admirably described by Shakspeare in As 
You Like It, where he speaks of 

" An oak, whose boughs were moss'd with age, 
And high top bald with dry antiquity," 

goes to show that Milton has here given us a 
literally true description of a natural phenomenon. 
What MR. COLLINS says about sheet lightning is 
very interesting. Does he speak from personal 
observation? J. L. WALKER. 

AMERICANISMS (5 th S. iv. 404.) MR. PRESLEY 
makes the mistake, by no means uncommon, of 
treating as Americanisms bad English used by an 
American. There are three kinds of American- 
isms, and I think only three, which are 

1. New words or old words in a new sense, used 
to express something in the ideas or experiences 
of a new country, not tersely or adequately ex- 
pressed by any English word in its ordinary sense. 
Such words or expressions, when once used, fre- 
quently spread over the whole country, sometimes 
with great rapidity, and are at once adopted, be- 
cause they supply a recognized want. Words 
originating in this way are no more liable to criti- 
cism than a new scientific term applied to a new- 
discovery in science. 

2. Local Americanisms such as " grup," in 
New England, and "reckon," in the South, for 

' think." Such localisms are no more numerous 
n America than in England, as I know from fa- 



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miliar intercourse with the common people of both 
countries, and are frequently of English origin. 

3. American slang. This class of words, or 
rather this dialect, seems to be a kind of revised 
and improved Billingsgate, with less malice and 
more vulgar wit than the original, and may be 
heard at any railway station or steamboat landing, 
as it was by Mr. Dickens, and might almost be 
mistaken for the language of the common people. 

Only two of the words given by MR. PRESLEY 
in his long list fall under either of these heads. 
These are " mop-board," the origin of which is 
obvious, and " tumble-bug." "Tumble-bug" is a 
name popularly given to a kind of beetle. When 
storing its food, it works it up into such a shape 
that, when grasped tightly, it makes with its own 
body a round ball. It then grasps in turns in the 
right direction, and gives a kick, frequently rolling 
over with its load five or six times, and then re- 
peats the operation until its hole is reached. The 
operation is a curious and interesting one. Hence 
the name. HENRY T. NILE. 

SHAKING HANDS (5 th S. iv. 487 ; v. 15, 77.) 
The following passages in Ralph Roister Doister 
would seem to show that shaking hands was ft 
common form of greeting in England in the middle 
of the sixteenth century. (1.) Two servant boys, 
quite strangers, meet, and after a little talk one 
says to the other : 

" In faith then must thou needes be welcome to me, 
Let us for acquaintance shake handes togither, 
And what ere thou be, heartily welcome hither." 

Act ii. sc. 3, 1. 26. 

(2.) Those who have been 'on bad terms shake 

hands on becoming friendly : 

" Goodlud-e. Sir, doe not for hir sake beare me j'our 

displeasure. 
Merycjretke. Well, he shall with you talke thereof more 

at leasure. 

Upon your ^'ood usage, he will now skate your handc. 
Royster. And much heartily welcome from a strauno-e 

lande. 

Meryyreeke. Be not afearde, Gawyn, to let him shake 
Act v. sc. 6, 11. 39-44. 
0. W. T. 

oherborne. 

In the "Prologue" to Lamartine's poem of 
Jocelyn, Episode, Journal trouvc chcz un Cure de 
Village, first published about forty years ago, the 
following lines occur : 

II me sen.Mc dc'ja dans mon oreille entendre 

i touclmnte voix 1'accent tremblant et tendre, 
it seritir, u dcfaut de mots cherchcs en vain 
lout son cujur me parlor d'un serrement de main 
Car lorsquc 1'arnitie n'a plus d'autre langa-e 
La mam aide le ccxmr et lui rend tcmoignage." 

J. MACRAY. 

"LADY-HELPS" (W S. iv. 306, 375.)-A. J M 
speaking of this foolish expression (p 375)' 
makes a serious mistake both in the origin and 



meaning of the word " help," as used among the 
" Yankees." In every new country, especially a 
country like New England, the first settlers, 
from the nature of the case, need help, and to 
get it must help each other. When the forest 
is felled, the trees ("logs") must be rolled to- 
gether to be burned. One man cannot do this, 
and there are no " servants " to employ. From 
the necessity of the case, the neighbours gather 
and help each other to " roll the logs." Hence 
both the word " help " and " log rolling," now 
extensively used in. American politics to cha- 
racterize a combination of the friends of different 
measures to carry them all through a legislative 
body. 

Again, a man would frequently employ the son 
of his neighbour to " help " his own son to do the 
work on his little farm, both young men perhaps 
spending all their leisure time in preparing for 
college, and each expecting one day to be President 
of the United States, the birthright of every 
" Yankee " boy. 

The idea of " master " and " servant " enters 
neither of their heads. If, instead of " hired 
help," the term " servant " should be used, there 
would be war between these embryo presidents. 

This was the actual position of such men as- 
Webster and Chase in early life. 

Let me assure A. J. M. that " help " is an honest 
word, with an honest origin, however affected it 
may have become since it crossed the water. 

H. T. X. 

Urbana, Ohio, U.S.A. 

MRS. PRITCHARD'S DESCENDANTS (5 th S. iii. 
509 ; iv. 296, 431, 492 ; v. 36.)-In the Life of 
Crarrick, by Davies, i. 192, it is stated that Mrs. 
Pritchard " laboured to make her family affluent 
and happy " ; and immediately after, to show that 
this did not only mean her children, the author 
adds that she " confined all her attention to her 
relations, which were very numerous." There does- 
not seem to be any reason why her brother should 
not have shared in these kindly attentions. With 
regard to her brother's conduct in relation to Mr. 
Leonard's legacy, I read the matter in a very 
different light, and do not imagine that Mr. 
Vaughan acted at all unfairly to his sister. He 
seems to have had a strange misconception of his 
position as executor, and to have sadly misled his 
sister. The account in The Thespian Dictionary 
is vague and incomplete ; but I do not think the- 
author meant to suggest that Mr. Vaughan at- 
tempted to claim half Mr. Leonard's legacy to 
Mrs. Pritchard, but rather that he imagined him- 
self, conjointly with her, to be residuary legatees, 
and that they would, therefore, be entitled to 
divide the greater part of the property between 
them. This he was prevented from doing ; and 
the bulk of the estate fell to the heirs-at-law, who 



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were nearer relations to Mr. Leonard than Mr. 
Vauglian and Mrs. Pritchard were. Mr. Vaughan's 
proceedings, for which Davies says he was pub- 
licly censured, were, I believe, his attempts to 
retain the property from the true heirs-at-law, and 
to apply it to the joint benefit of Mrs. Pritchard 
and himself, not any attempt to claim half of his 
sister's legacy. * 

That A. T. Palmer was the grand-daughter of 
Mrs. Pritchard is stated in the supplement to 
Upcott and Shoberl's Biographical Dictionary of 
Living Authors, Lond., 8vo., 1816, p. 444. I 
should be glad to know when and where she died. 

EDWARD SOLLY. 

WATERLOO BRIDGE (5 th S. iv. 247, 415, 518.) 
As to Mr. John Eennie having given the design for 
Waterloo Bridge, according to Mr. Elmes's state- 
ment, allow me to quote from J. Britten, F.S.A., 
who, in his Picture of London, 1826, writes, at 
p. 199- 

" The engineer who gave the plan was Mr. G. Dodd ; 
but that gentleman disagreed with the company engaged 
in the undertaking soon after its commencement, and 
the late Mr. Rennie has the merit of conducting it to so 
noble and successful a termination." 

It is true that it resembles the Pont de Neuilly, 
but it is much grander and nobler ; and Dodd not 
only gave the design, but also commenced the 
structure, so the language of Elmes is untrue, that 
the "great schemer only projected the work." 
Eennie was incapable of designing such a bridge, 
but that is no disparagement of Eennie's abilities. 
Eennie was a man of genius, but only as an engi- 
neer. His talent has never been questioned. His 
construction of the centres, upon which the arches 
were turned, was perfectly original. When the 
weight was piled on these timber centres they 
always used to deflect, to the great discomfort and 
dismay of bridge-builders. Eennie discovered 
that if the loading rested longitudinally, in place 
of laterally, this would be got over. When the 
timbers were removed, the arches only sank about 
one inch in the middle. The bridge of Neuilly 
sank eighteen inches immediately. This was a 
noble engineering triumph, and quite enough for 
Eennie. _ Let every man have his own merit. 
Dodd's is that of having designed the noblest 
bridge in existence. Thus late in the day we re- 
store to him the honour that was his due', though 
niched from him in his lifetime by cowardly falsi- 
fiers. It cannot benefit the memory of an original 
inventor, like Mr. Eennie, to accord him a glory 
that does not belong to him ; and he was " na sae 
cannie," in the Yorkshire sense of the word, as to 
wish it himself probably. C. A. WARD. 

Mayfair. 

CHRISTMAS MUMMERS (5 th S. iv. 506 ; v. 75.) 
My note on the Guisards, although appearing only 
in December, was in fact written and despatched 



in the early part of last year, with reference to MR. 
PENGELLY'S note at iii. 55, on the Cornish Christ- 
inas games and giz-daunce, consequently before 
the appearance of MIDDLE TEMPLAR'S note at 
iii. 378. Supposing that my note had been con- 
signed to what Christopher North called the 
Balaam-box, I was agreeably surprised by its 
appearance last Christmas Day. I hope, therefore, 
that MIDDLE TEMPLAR will acquit me of having 
overlooked or neglected his account of the Tenby 
play. The object of my communication was 
simply to show that traces survive of a rustic 
mystery play, once characteristic of Christmas 
festivities throughout the land, but now rapidly 
sinking into oblivion, and even at Tenby "fast 
going to decay " in 1857, nearly twenty years ago. 
The cause of this is not far to seek. The rise in 
the wages of labour, the facilities afforded for loco- 
motion and change of place, have made the agri- 
cultural labourer so restless that he is constantly on 
the move, and seldom remains in the same place 
for more than one or two years. Local habits and 
associations are thus broken up. The people of a 
district become strangers to each other, and no 
longer cultivate the same social relations as hereto- 
fore. Up to last year, when I wrote, a few young 
men in a quiet rural valley of Eoxburghshire, 
ten miles from any town, and about the same dis- 
tance from a railway station, still continued to 
make the round of the parish, in their ordinary 
working dress, calling themselves Guisards, singing 
a song or two in the kitchen, and then passing on 
to the next house. This year even that practice 
has ceased. Not a single party has appeared, al- 
though the season has been open and the nights 
often fine. Among the many useful services ren- 
dered to literature by " N. & Q.," not the least 
valuable is that of storing up incidents of folk-lore 
and vestiges of old customs, now rapidly disappear- 
ing before the accelerated march of a civilization 
that bids fair to reduce all our ways to the same 
dead level. Of the old customs connected with 
the season, only that of Hogmanay survives. The 
children go their rounds for cakes and pence on the 
last day of the year as merrily as ever ; but Hal- 
loween, Christmas, Handsel Monday, and Twelfth 
Night are things of the past. W. E. 

GEMATRIA (5 th S. iv. 513.) This word is, I 
believe, usually taken by educated Jews to be the 
Greek yew/zerpta, and so it is also taken by Bux- 
torf, in his Rabbinical Lexicon; for the word is 
of course Eabbinical. A good many Greek words 
have found their way into Eabbinical Hebrew, but 
unfortunately I have omitted to note those which 
I myself have seen. A few words were also, I 
believe, borrowed from the Latin language, and 
one of these I am always accustomed, in my mind, 
to couple with gematria, though there is but little 
real connexion between them. This word is no- 



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5 th 8. V. FEB. 12, 76. 



taricum, as Buxtorf Latinizes it, though it is, I 
believe, usually pronounced nootriJcoon (the oo's 
like oo in 60011) by the Jews, and is apparently 
irregularly formed from the Latin verb notare. It 
is used of words of which each individual letter 
represents, or is supposed to represent, the initial 
letter of another word, and so to stand for that 
word. Thus cabal would be a nootriJcoon, if its 
five letters really stood for Clifford, Arlington, 
Buckingham, Ashley, and Lauderdale, as at one 
time they were believed to do. It is in fact, or 
may be used as, a sort of mnemosynon or memoria 
tcchnica. F. CHANCE. 

Sydenham Hill. 

Eenan identifies this word with yew/xerpi'a, and 
for the frequent use of this play upon words in 
the Kabbala refers the student to LiteraturUatt 
dcs Orients, 1849, 1850. The best known example 
of gcmatria or ghematria is the number of the 
beast in the Apocalypse, 666, which Renan inter- 
prets as = NEPflN KAISAP, according to the 
Hebrew arithmetical value of the letters (Eenan, 
L' Antichrist, p. 417, note). A. L. MATHEW. 

Oxford. 

SCOTCH ATTORNEY (5 th S. iv. 428.) If not too 
late in the day, the following extract may supply 
the information required by S. T. P. : 

" A parasite of a dangerous family The whole 

bole, clapped and stifled in its embraces, dies and rots 
out, and the Matapalo (or Scotch attorney,* as it is 
rudely called here) stands alone on stilted roots, and 
board -walls of young wood, slowly coalescing into one 
great trunk ; master of the soil once owned by the 
patron on whose vitals he has fed : a treacherous 
tyrant." Charles Kingsley, At Last, vol. i. pp. 163-4. 

TENEOR. 

Ceylon. 

JOHN* ADOLPIIUS (5 th S. iii. 0, 96, 215, 376 ; iv. 
233.) My father, Mr. Adolphus, was not the 
author of a book published in 1797, called Bio- 
(jrapliical Anecdotes of the Founders of the French 
Rcj-niltlic and other Eminent Characters who hare, 
Distinguished themselves in the Progress of the 
Revolution. His work was entitled Biographical 
.Wnnnh's of the French Revolution. It was pub- 
lished in 1799, in 2 vols., 8vo. 

EMILY HENDERSON. 

OKORGE BUTLER OF BALLYRAGGET (5 th S v 

-Edmund, fourth Viscount Mountgarrett' 

married, first, Lady Dorothy Touchet, by whom 

ad, with other children, Richard, ancestor of 

the present family of Mountgarrett. He married 

secondly, Elizabeth, daughter of Sir George 

irm-ons, of Brightwell, co. Oxford, by his wife, 

daughter of Lord Vaux of Harrowden. By 

s second marriage he had a son, Edward Butler 

horn he left his estates of Ballyra e t, &c 



Clusia. 



Edward Butler married Elizabeth, daughter of 
George Mathew, Esq., of Thomastown, Tipperary, 
by whom he had three sons Edmund (died child- 
less), George, Pierce (died childless), and a daughter 
married to Dudley Bagenal, of Dunleckney, co. 
Carlow. George Butler of Ballyragget married, 
May 20, 1700, Catharine, eldest daughter of John, 
Lord Kingston. He died Sept. 19, 1752, leaving 
three sons and two daughters. His eldest son, 
James, married Miss Dillon, of Dublin, and died 
March 20, 1749, leaving Eobert (died childless), 
Edward, James (titular Archbishop of Cashel), 
and George. 

The above pedigree comes out of Lodge's 
Peerage of Ireland, published at Dublin in 1789. 
HENRY E. BUTLER. 

The following is an exact copy of an inscription 
on a tablet in the south side-aisle of the abbey 
church of Bath : 

"In memory of 

George Butler, of Ballyragget, 

in the County of Kilkenny, Esq% 

who died Jan- v 30 th , 1813, 

aged 68 years. 

R. I. P." 

It is to be hoped that due care will be taken to 
preserve the numerous monumental inscriptions in 
this fine building. Many monuments, which were 
to be seen some years ago, are not now forth- 
coming ; and it is to be feared that at least one 
inscription has recently disappeared. Though I 
copied the inscription I refer to within the last 
eight months, and made a memorandum of the 
situation of it, I cannot now find the tablet. 

ABHBA. 

BELL HORSES (5 th S. iv. 408, 521.) Bell horses 
are race-horses. The prize was a gold or silver 
bell : hence " to bear the bell." There is no great 
speed in a pack horse. If your querist can get 
hold of Chester's Triumph in Honour of her Prince, 
reprinted by the Chetham Society, he will find a 
good deal about the races at Chester, the bells 
given to the winners, &c. P. P. 

LINES ON THE LETTER H (5 th S. v. 64.) 
" From hell, from horsepond, and from hate, 

And placed you where you ne'er should be 

In honour and in honesty." 

Such is my recollection of the opening lines of 
the answer. W. J. BERNHARD SMITH. 

Temple. 

I think your correspondent is in error in identi- 
fying these lines with Shropshire. Though no 
doubt there, as elsewhere, uneducated people mur- 
der their h's, it is by no me&ns the characteristic 
of that county as it is of Worcestershire. I be- 
lieve the lines were written about half a century 
ago by a talented native of the latter county. I 
think the following epitaph, from Fly ford Flavel 



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Churchyard (which I arn told is not unique), 
curiously shows that "Worcestershire folks like to 
immortalize their pronunciation on stone, as the 
third line needs to be read with their additional h 
before " uncle " : 

" To the Memory of William Baker, died Oct., 1810. 
Lo, yrhere the silent marble weeps 
A faithful friend and neighbour sleeps, 
A brother and a uncle dear, 
As to the world did appear. 
He lived in love, and so he died, 
His life desired, but God denied." 

W. M. M. 

PILE FAMILY (5 th S. v. 89.) In Sims's Index to 
Pedigrees and Arms in the British Museum there 
is the name of Pile of Chadleworth, in co. Berks. 
He states that the family were from co. Bucks ; 
and gives the following references to the British 
Museum MSS. :-Harleian, 1483, fo. 119; 1530, 
fo. 48 ; Add. MS., 14284, fo. 40. For Pile of 
Kemarsh he refers to Add. MS., 4961, fo. 93. 
John Pile, Fellow of King's Coll., Cambridge, 
died Dec. 27, 1710, aged 28, and was buried in the 
church of St. John Baptist, Windsor. See Ash- 
mole's Berks, vol. iii. p. 95. There is no mention 
of the Pile family in Kerry's Hundred of Bray. 

C. J. E. 

LADY GREENVILL OR GRENVILLE (5 th S. v. 67.) 
This lady was the daughter and heiress of Sir 
John Fitz, of Fitzford, in the county of Devon, 
Knight, by his wife, a Courtenay of Powderham. 
The widow successively of Sir Alan Percy, Kt. (a 
younger son of Henry, eighth Earl of Northumber- 
land), who died s.p. ; of Thomas D'Arcy (son and 
heir of' Thomas, third Lord D'Arcy of Chiche, 
Viscount Colchester and Earl of Rivers), who died 
in his father's lifetime *. p. ; and of Sir Charles 
Howard, Kt. (fourth son of Thomas, first Earl of 
Suffolk, K.G.), by whom she had one daughter, 
she married lastly Sir Richard Grenville (or 
Gran vi lie), Kt. and Bart., the celebrated Cavalier 
leader. By Sir Richard, Lady Grenville had, ac- 
cording to Burke's Landed Gentry (Granville), 
" one son, who was put to death by the Parliament, 
and one daughter, Elizabeth, m. to Colonel Lenard, 
a staunch Royalist." ARGENT. 

In Devonshire there are many stories related of 
this Lady Howard, and, if correct, she was famed 
as much for her crimes as for her beauty. It is 
still believed she travels nightly, between the hours 
of midnight and cockcrow, in a coach of bones, 
attended by a bloodhound, from Fitzford House 
to Okehampton Park. Each night the hound 
brings back a single blade of grass in his mouth. 
Lady Howard is to continue this penance until 
every blade of grass is picked in the park. Another 
version of the story turns the lady herself into a 
hound, and thus makes her perform a more la- 
borious journey. EMILY COLE. 



JOHN DAWSON OF SEDBERCH (5 th S. v. 87.) 
In reply to MR. PICKFORD'S query respecting " Old 
Engraving of Dawson of Sedbergh," I find in 
Evans's Catalogue of Portraits, No. 14944 : 

"Dawson, John, born at Garsdale, Yorkshire, articled 
to a surgeon at Lancaster, and settled at Sedbergh as 
surgeon and mathematical tencher ; died 1820, aged 86. 
Mezzotint. Allen (painter); "VV. Barney (engraver). 5 ' 
CRAWFORD J. POCOCK. 

R. BRANDON, THE EXECUTIONER OF CHARLES I. 
(5 th S. v. 46, 76.) There is a tradition current ia 
Sheffield that this man ended his days there, and 
was buried in a vault underneath the parish church.. 
Can any of the readers of " N. & Q." say whether 
this is unfounded, and, if so, how it was that the 
tradition arose ? DUNELMENSIS. 

ELIZABETH HAMILTON (4 th S. xi. 522 ; xii. 55, 
133, 216 ; 5 th S. iv. 178, 256.) Your correspon- 
dent (iv. 178) mentions that there is a biographic 
notice of this lady in the Christian Freeman, 
August, 1875. Is the writer of this sketch in the- 
Christian Freeman not mistaken in regard to what 
he supposes to have been her religious opinions ? 

In the Memoirs of Elizabeth Hamilton, by Miss 
Benger, there is in vol. i. a letter of date Oct., 
1812, in which Miss Hamilton mentions that she 
had lately become a member of the Church of 
England. See also, towards the end of vol. ii. of 
Miss Benger's memoir, " Some Remarks by Miss 
Hamilton on the Book of Revelations." 

From these "Remarks," and from what Miss- 
Hamilton has said in the letter I have referred to, 
are we not warranted in supposing that she was a 
believer in the orthodox and scriptural doctrine 
regarding the Holy Trinity 1 R. INGLIS. 

ARABELLA FITZJAMES (5 th S. iv. 488 ; v. 14, 
56.) Arabella Churchill appears to have had some 
provision from the Duke of York, independent of 
the pension on the Irish Establishment which MR. 
SOLLY mentions. My family hold lands near 
Limerick which, at the Restoration, belonged to 
Sir Hfirdress Waller, but were then, with those of 
the other regicides, confiscated, and granted to the 
Duke of York. When the private estate of King 
James was sold in 1703-4, my ancestor bought 
this portion, and it was then charged with annuities 
to Arabella amounting in the whole to 110Z. a 
year, which Colonel Godfrey received on her behalf. 
I presume other lots were similarly charged. 

GORT. 

HERRICK AND AUSONIUS (5 th S. iv. 226, 471.) 
A great many writers, besides those mentioned' 
by your two correspondents, have used language 
and thoughts very similar to those in Gather 
ye Rosebuds. I have made a list of at least a 
dozen before Herrick. The following, which is 
essentially the same, was written several hundred 



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years before Ausonius, and is the earliest I have 
yet met with ; but the imagery has been so often 
used to enforce the same sentiments, that it would 
by no means be safe to say that it also was not a 
" plagiarism " from some one earlier still : 

For our time is a very shadow that passeth away : 
and after our end there is no returning : for it is fast 
sealed, so that no man commeth againe. 

'< Come on therefore, let vs enioy the good things that 
are present : and let vs speedily vse the creatures like as 
in youth. 

" Let vs fill our selues with costly wine, and ointments : 
and let no flower of the Spring passe by vs. 

" Let vs crowne our selues with Rose buds before they 
be withered. 

' Let none of vs goe without his part of our volup- 
tuousnesse :* let us leaue tokens of our ioyfulnesse^ in 
euery place : for this is our portion, and our lot is this." 
Authorized Version, 1611, Book of Wisdom, c. ii. v. 5-9. 

K. E. 

Boston, Lincolnshire. 

HERALDIC (.~> th S. v. 0, 54, 98.) In Stow's 
London, bk. i. p. 69, will be found, "Monuments 
in this Church of St. Peter's (ad Vincula within) the 
Tower " : in the chancel a " very stately monument 
of the Blounts ; the one of Sir Richard Blount, the 
other of Sir Michael, son of the said Richard, both 
successively Lieutenants of the Tower. Sir Richard 
died 11 Au., 1564." Their arms are blazoned. 
These are the same family as R. Blount and E. 
Lister at Sarsden House. C. W. B. 

SKATINC: LITERATURE (5 th S. ii. 107, 156, 318, 
379 ; iv. 177, 437.) If MR. FOSTER will excuse 
the delay, here is one more work to add to his list: 
" TJtc Skater's Monitor, Instructor, and Evening 
Companion. With Engravings [two etchings and 
six small woodcuts]. Edinburgh : John Menzies, 
61. Prince's Street, 1846," pp. 76. The subscrip- 
tion list was headed by Prince Albert. No 
authors name appears, only the sham signature of 
"Walter Dove" at end of Preface. But I can 
vouch for the author having been Mr. Whitelaw, 
of 8, James Place, Leith Links, Edinburgh, my 
presentation copy bearing his autograph, " in testi- 
mony of the high satisfaction which 's illus- 
trations of the Mater's Monitor, &c., have given 
the subscribers, but especially the Author." I 
k'lieve Mr. Whitelaw's name was Matthew. 

J. W. E. 

Molash, by Ashford, Kent. 

II OVAL HEADS ox BELLS (4 th S. ix. 76, 250 
309 ; xii. 85 ; :,th & j_ 2 35, 417; ii. 318 ; iv. 139., 
There is another of these interesting bells at 
Light home, Warwickshire. The inscription is par- 
ticularly clear and perfect : 

+ IOIIAXXIS (K) PRECE (Q) BTLCE (K) SONET (Q) 

ET (K) AMENE. 

Initial cross and letters as at Chippenham, Cambs 
HENRY T. TILLEY. 



Margin says, "or iolitie.' 



THE SOCIETY OF FRIENDS (5 th S. iv. 479 ; 
v. 12.) To the publications mentioned by MR. 
SICKES I beg to add The Annual Monitor ; or, 
Obituary of the Members of the Society of Friends 
in Great Britain and Ireland, published by 
Messrs. Kitto & Marsh, London, and of which the 
thirty-fourth volume (new series) has just appeared. 
Numerous tracts were issued by the York Friends' 
Tract Association, among them one (Y, No. 9) 
entitled Sentiments of the Society of Friends on 
Divine Worship and Gospel Ministry, fcap. 8vo. 
16 pp., printed by John L. Linney, York, and sold 
by C. Gilpin, Bishopsgate Street, London, which 
will no doubt meet ETHELBERTA'S want. 

From July, 1832, till the end of 1837 (120 
numbers, generally of 16 pp.) appeared at irregular 
intervals a periodical publication entitled The 
Yorlcshireman, a Religious and Literary Journal, 
by a Friend (i. e., Luke Howard, Esq., F.K.S., &c., 
of Ackworth), printed and published at Pontefract, 
and containing a series of articles running from 
No. 16 to No." 120, with the heading, " A Chrono- 
logical Summary of Events and Circumstances 
connected with the Origin and Progress of the 
Doctrine and Practices of the Quakers/' 

CHARLES A. FEDERER. 

Bradford. 

[ETHELBERTA should write direct to MR. HICKES for 
the information she now asks. His address was given.] 

WHIPPING DOGS OUT OF CHURCH (5 th S. iv. 
309, 514 ; v. 37.) In the life-size portrait of old 
Scarlett, the sexton, hung (so curiously out of 
place) in the nave of Peterborough Cathedral, his 
dog-whip is seen, thrust through his waist-belt. 
CUTHBERT BEDE. 

POETS THE MASTERS OF LANGUAGE (4 th S. xi. 
110 ; 5 th S. iv. 431, 491 ; v. 14, 37, 52, 72.) I 
have just been looking at that, I believe, now 
much despised book, Lindley Murray, and I find, 
in vol. i. p. 164, in a note to the participle "for- 
saken" : 

" Walker observes that Milton has availed himself of 
the licence of his art (an art as apt to corrupt grammar 
as to raise and adorn language) to use the preterit of 
this verb for the participle : 

* Th' immortal mind that hath forsook 
Her mansion.'" 

I think the parenthesis sums up the controversy. 

CLARRY. 

MR. PICTON unquestionably speaks the sense of 
most readers of " N. & Q.," both in his approval 
of " loved and sung," and in his utter reprobation 
of " there let him lay." I think this terrible slip 
may be paralleled by a line in Cain, Act ii. sc. 2 : 
"Let He who made thee answer that." 

To quote DR. GATTY'S words, " I ask other of 
your readers what they think of the use of the 
word" If e. W. WHISTON. 



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DOUBLE CHRISTIAN NAMES (5 th S. ii. passim , 
iii. 16., 35, 77, 177.) In searching the registers oi 
Harlington, co. Bedford, lately, I came across a 
rather early example of a bond fide double Chris- 
tian name : 

"1686. Anna-Letitia, daughter of Sir Francis Wingate 
and y e Lady Anne his wife, baptized Dec. 17." 

D. C. E. 

PRE-EEFORMATION CHURCH PLATE (5 th S. v. 
48, 76, 98.) If MR. IND will give us the Assay 
Office letter on the older piece of plate, he will 
render antiquaries an acceptable service. Mr. 
Morgan's list (published 1853) has only one speci- 
men of the alphabet used 1438 to 1457, namely, 
the letter H. P. P. 

MAJOR FRANCIS PEIRSON (5 th S. v. 67, 93.) 
In 3 rd S. yi. 129, 195, 239, MR. SULLIVAN will 
find some information concerning this gallant offi- 
cer's connexions. There is in the National Gal- 
lery a very fine painting by Copley, representing 
the death of Major Peirson in 1781, and this has 
been very well engraved. There is also a small 
vignette of it in vol. xvi. of Hume and Smollett's 
History of England, with continuation by the 
Eev. T. S. Hughes, B.D.. London, 1835. 

JOHN PICKFORD, M.A. 
^N T ewbourne Rectory, Woodbridge. 

To two of his sisters were given pensions of 
100Z. a year each. T. J. BENNETT. 

Wokingham. 

THE OBLIGATIONS OF EXECUTORS (5 th S. iv. 
349 ; v. 55.) 

" ' As he who has accepted an invitation cannot dis- 
engage himself from it, the master of the feast cannot 
put off the entertainment on any pretence whatever. 
Urgent business, sickness, not even death itself, can dis- 
pense with the obligation which he is under of giving 
the entertainment for which he has sent out invitations, 
which have been accepted ; for in the extreme cases of 
compulsory absence, or death, his place may be filled by his 
friend or executor.' Vide Le Manuel des AmpMtryons, 
8vo., Paris, 1808, and Cours Gastronomiyue, 1809, to 
which the reader is referred for further instructions." 
The Cook's Oracle, by W. Kitchiner, M.D., new edition, 
London, 1829, p. 37. 

T. W. C. 

The question, I think, could be settled by Mr. 
Weasel. See Ten Thousand a Year, bk. iv. ch. iv. 
(vol. i. p. 353, People's Edition). The learned 
author can, doubtless, supply his address. 

P. J. F. GANTILLON. 

" INTOXICATING " (5 th S. iv. 409, 523.) While 
perfectly agreeing with the etymology given by 
MR. PEACOCK, I would suggest to him that the 
Spanish words he gives, viz., entoxicar and atoxicar, 
are obsolete only in form ; the newer entosigar and 
atosigar being of frequent occurrence with the 
same meaning, namely, " to poison." 

A. W. PLEACE. 



COIN IMPRESSIONS ON BELLS (5 th S. iv. 306, 
473.) This is a subject which has often been 
referred to in " N. & Q." ; but has it ever been 
questioned where the said coins on bells are real 
coins or impressions only ? In olden times pious 
persons threw gold and silver ornaments into the 
molten metal as votive offerings. The metal of the 
great bell of Burmah, after it was broken up, was 
said to be worth 66,565?., and pieces of gold and 
silver were said to be traceable, unmelted, in the 
metal. At the present day coins are put beneath 
foundation stones of great buildings. Now, is it 
not possible that rectors, churchwardens, and others 
concerned would gladly furnish a coin for their 
bell 1 If coins were placed upon the mould, would 
the molten metal not gather them up, as it were, 
and present them to view for generations as the 
votive offerings of those concerned in getting the 
bell cast ? If they are impressions only, why so ? 
There would be no " virtue " in an impression (?). 
I have seen coins on bells presenting the obverse 
and reverse of a Charles II. shilling remarkably 
clear and distinct. Would the mould take, and 
the bell-metal present, a clear and distinct im- 
pression ? EAGLE. 

Impressions of coins are found so frequently 
upon church bells that an attempted list of in- 
stances would be much too long for the columns of 
" N. & Q." In Leicestershire alone I find English 
coins dating from the fifteenth century to the reign 
of George III. At North Kilworth, in that 
county, there are impressions of a coin of John V. 
of Portugal. 

A reference to the printed lists of inscriptions 
on church bells will supply very many instances. 

THOMAS NORTH. 
The Bank, Leicester. 

THE "GIANTS' GRAVES" AT PENRITH (5 th S. 
iv. 44, 95.) There is an old engraving of this 
monument in which wild boars are represented 
on the slabs, which stand edgewise between the 
columns. I think the artist must have drawn 
largely upon his imagination ; at least, when I saw 
the stones, more than thirty years ago, there was no 
device visible beyond a sort of rude crenelation. 
The upright monoliths are sculptured with orna- 
ments, amongst which the quatrefoil is most con- 
spicuous. They are about 12 ft. high, and stand 
about 15 ft. apart. W. J. BERNHARD SMITH. 

Temple. 

" TEETOTAL " (5 th S. iv. 429 ; v. 18.) S. T. P.'s 
note reminded me of a paragraph I had seen in 
Haydn's Dictionary of Dates (10th edit., 1861), 
md when I referred thereunto, sub " Teetotaller," 
[ think I found the name of the hero of the cop- 
oer medal : 

" An artisan of Preston in Lancashire, named Richard 
Turner, in addressing temperance meetings in that and 



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[5 th S. V. FEB. 12, 76. 



other towns, acknowledged that he had been a hard 
drinker most part of his life ; and being an alliterate 
innn, and in want of a word to express how much he 
then abstained from malt and spirits, used to exclaim, 1 
am now a Teetotaller,' and hence the phrase-about 

-1001 

ST. SWITHIN. 

WOMEN'S RIGHTS (5 th S. iv. 269, 493 ; Y. 37.) 
Mrs. Ann Bass, of Aylestone, Leicestershire (lately 
deceased), was an excellent churchwarden of that 
parish for several years. It is evident, from the 
following entry in the Hall Book (in MS.) of the 
Corporation of Leicester, under date of 1621, that 
women were sometimes admitted to the freedom 
of that borough : 

" It is agreed by a generall consent that William 
Hurtshorne, husbandman, shall be made a ffreeman of 
this corporacon, payinge such ffyne as Mr. Maior and 
the Chaniblyns that now be shall assess. But he is not 
allowed any freedome or priviledge by reason that hia 
mother was made a ffreewoman. Tseither is it thought 
tut that any woman be hereafter made free of this cor- 
poracon." 

THOMAS NORTH. 

The Bank, Leicester. 

LEASES FOR 99 OR 9.99 YEARS (5 th S. iv. 289, 
472 ; v. 54.) On July 25, 1811, Sir Oswald Mos- 
ley, Bart., lord of the manor of Manchester, de- 
m'iscil a plot of land at Ancoats, in that township, 
for nine thousand nine hundred and ninety-nine 
years, which term will expire in the year of our 
Lord 11,810, when his heirs or assigns can eject 
the tenants, and take possession of all buildings 
standing thereon. Now I could never conceive 
why Sir Oswald did not originally make the grant 
for an even ten thousand years, for it would merely 
have allowed the leaseholders another twelve 
months before such rigorous measures could be 
enforced. JAMES HIGSON, F.R.H.S. 

Ardwick, Manchester. 

' : THE BUFFS" (2"' 1 S. vi. 431 ; 5 th S. v. 49.) 
The extract from the Historical Records of the 
Jicgiment seems to imply that the Buffs formed 
part of the expedition which sailed from St. Helens 
on March 29, 1761, but does not distinctly state 
so. On the other hand Beatson, Naval and Mili- 
tary .\hmoirs, declares that it did not, but that 
t followed some weeks later. He gives the list of 
the fourteen detachments and their commanders 
(vol. iii. p. 330), and fully describes the attack on 
Belleisle on April 7, which, it is well known, was 
unsuccessful ; and adds that, " when the news 
reached London of the check General Hodgson 
had received, the nation seemed displeased, not 
having been accustomed of late to rebuffs of this 
sort. The minister immediately ordered a rein- 
forcement of four battalions of infantry" & c 
(vol. ii. p. 462). And in the list of these four 
the first is the Buffs, under Major J. Biddulph 

According to Toone's Chronology of the Reign 



of George III., 1834, the news of the failure of 
Hodgson's attack upon Belleisle was brought to 
London by Capt. Ellis and Capt. Eooke, in the 
Escorte, on April 19 ; and " the ten transports 
with the regiment of Old Buffs, &c., sailed from. 
Spithead" on May 14, 1761. Belleisle surrendered 
on June 8. EDWARD SOLLY. 

Sutton, Surrey. 

PHILOLOGICAL (5 th S. iv. 489 ; v. 10, 91.) I 
o 1 to tender my best thanks to your three corre- 
spondents for their prompt and. full answers to my 
query. Dux TROJANUS. 



NOTES ON BOOKS, &c. 

Materials for the History of Thomas Becket, Arch- 
bishop of Canterbury. (Canonized by Pope 
Alexander III., A.D. 1173.) Edited by James 
Craigie Robertson, M.A., Canon of Canterbury. 
Vol. I. (Longmans & Co.) 

THE present volume of materials for the biography 
of Becket consists of the life, sufferings, and 
miracles of the archbishop, told by William, a 
monk of Canterbury. The life is short, occupying 
136 pages, while the miracles fill the remainder of 
546 pages. There is nothing new in the former. 
We are told how the archbishop was opposed by 
several of the bishops who supported the king, 
above whose crown Thomas would have put his 
crozier, and would have made England subject to 
a foreign government seated at Rome. In the 
course of the narrative there is occasionally a cir- 
cumstance or incident which provokes a smile. 
This occurs even in the account of the death of 
Thomas. The writer was affrighted at the cry of 
Fitz Urse, " Strike ! strike ! " Thinking this 
meant general slaughter, and not deeming himself 
fit for glorious martyrdom, he very ingloriously 
and rapidly retreated : " minus idoneus martyrio, 
celeri tergiversatione, gradus ascendi, cornplodens 
manus." The miracles, printed for the first time, 
amount to 168. Some of them are extremely 
childish ; others show that there were religious 
men who had considerable doubts as to the arch- 
bishop's sanctity. He seems to have been often 
moved for very indifferent purpose ; no doubt, 
what seems, to men of the present time, blasphemy 
was holiness in the eyes of sincere men in earlier 
ages. We make extract of one, because it has 
sometimes been held that one species of what was 
called " leprosy " in those ages was, in fact, iden- 
tical with another loathsome disease, which, ac- 
cording to some writers, was brought into Europe 
by the Crusaders. Be this as it may, the following 
is not without interest to those who study the 
science of contagious diseases : 

" De eo qui lepram incurrit quia meretrici adhaesit. 
" Venerabili Cantuariensis ecclesiaj priori et ejusdem 



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139 



ecclesiae sanctissimo conventui, frater Fulco prior beati 
Leonori de Bellomonte, et Hugo de Praeriis sacerdos, 
salutem. Notum fieri volumus caritatse vestrae mira- 
culum memoria dignum in parochia nostra effulsisse. 
Contigifc namque presentium latorem Odonem nomine, 
parochianum quidem nostrum, meretricem adhsesisse, 
etatimque post peccatum poenam peccati lepram contra- 
hisse ; unde corde compuncto convolans ad confeseionis 
baptismum, acceptum a nobis consilio, locum in quo 
beatus Thomas martyr et pontifex requiescit adire de- 
crevit ; vovana in perpetuum se camera non gustaturum, 
sed nee vinum feria sexta bibiturum, nee interulam in- 
duturum donee Totum compleret. Quid plura ? Voti 
transgressor camera comedit, et confestim fracto voto 
to turn corpus ejus elephantine morbo percussum est. 
Unde poenitentia ductus consilio nostro votum iteravit. 
et viriliter tenuit ; sicque infra breve tempus caro ipsius 
fere pristinae restituta est sanitati. Hoc autem sanctis- 
simi patres, apud nos actum inter csetera pretiosi rnar- 
tyris, miracula ascribi quassumus faciatis." 

The miracles seem to have been written for 
Henry II.'s reading. The one above will suggest 
many subjects for remark to those who are fond of 
examining into bygone ways of life ; but, in fact, 
there are few of the miracles here recorded that 
have not the same tendency. We must add that 
the volume is edited with the taste, judgment, and 
good faith which the Government and the country 
expect from the gentlemen employed in such re- 
sponsible work. 

Heliques of Ancient English Poetry. Consisting 
of Old Heroic Ballads, Songs, and other Pieces 
of our earlier Poets. Together with some few 
of later Days. By Thomas Percy, Lord Bishop 
of Dromore. 2 vols. Edited by J. V. Prichard. 
(G. Bell & Sons.) 

THE time had come for a reprint of the selections 
made, as Percy remarks, " from an ancient folio 
MS. in the editor's possession, which contains 
nearly two hundred poems, songs, and metrical 
romances. This manuscript was written about 
the middle of the last (the seventeenth) century, 
but contains compositions of all times and dates, 
from the ages prior to Chaucer to the conclusion 
of the reign of Charles I." This collection will 
not, of course, excite the enthusiasm which it did 
among many learned readers in earlier days, when 
other works on the same subject were scarcely 
procurable, bat it will be very welcome to many, 
nevertheless. The bishop, who dedicated the ori- 
ginal work to " the Right Hon. Elizabeth, Coun- 
tess of Northumberland in her own right, Baroness 
Percy, Lucy, Poynings, Fitz-Payne, Bryan, and 
Latimer," plumes himself, in his Preface (a quaint 
"bit of writing, well worth the reading), on the 
great care that had been taken " to admit nothing 
immoral or indecent." But time has changed 
manners, style, and opinions ; and there are things 
in these poems that would warrant the above 
countess and six baronesses rolled into one (were 
she now alive) to blush with the power of seven. 



Our Place among Infinities, by R. A. Proctor (Henry 
S. King & Co.), is (w quote the title-page) "a scries of 
essays, contrasting our little abode in space and time 
with the infinities around us." Essays on astrology and 
the Jewish sabbath are added. The writer acknowledges 
that his views " respecting the interesting question of 
life in other worlds have changed considerably " since he 
wrote on that subject. 

FROM Messrs. Kivington we have received two more 
instalments of Mr. Storr's excellent " English School- 
Classics," Notes to Scott's Waverlty (H. W. Eve) and 
Macaulay's Essay on Hallam's Constitutional History 
(H. F. Bpyd) Books XL XII. of the jEneid of Vergil, 
edited with Notes by F. Storr, B.A., is intended specially 
for the use of higher forms in public schools Stories 
from Ovid in Elegiac Verse, with Notes, &c., by 
R. W. Taylor, M.A., is a companion volume to Mr. 
Taylor's selection from the Metamorphoses (Rugby, W. 
Billington) Parts V., VI., and VII. of Mr. Garland's 
Genesis, with Notes Ars Pastoria, by F. Parnell, 
M.A., Rector of Oxtead, is excellent, if only for the 
" Hints on Sermons." We read : " St. Vincent de Paul, 
lamenting one day that his earnest preaching had but 
little effect, met a vine-dresser, and asked him how his 
sermons were liked. ' Sir,' he replied, ' we are all sensible 
that everything you tell us is good, but you preach too 
long. We ignorant men are just like our own wine-rats 
the juice must have plenty of room left to work in ; and 
once filled to the brim, if you attempt to pour in more, 
even if it be the very best juice in the world, it will only 
be spilt on the ground and lost.'" The Pythagorean 
Triangle; or, the Science of Numbers, by the Rev. G. 
Oliver, D.D., &c. (Hogg & Co.), is posthumous, and 
printed verbatim et literatim from the author s hitherto 
unpublished MS. Here we should mention A Sketch of 
the History of the Antient and Primitive Rite of Masonry 
in France, America, and Great Britain, witli Charters 
and other Documents (John Hogg). Reminiscences oj~ 
Three Oxford Worthies, by J. M. Chapman, M.A. (James 
Parker), cannot fail to recall pleasing recollections in the 
minds of those who worked with John Keble : 
" Too strict a Churchman for a liberal age, 

He found not, sought not, lofty patronage ; 

Saw friends and pupils, with unenvious eye, 

Rais'd to high station, and himself pass'd by "; 
John Miller, who originally suggested the title of " The 
Christian Year " : 

"Averse from aimless theory and strife, 

He taught the Gospel as a rule of life " ; 
and C. A. Ogilvie : 

" No son of Oxford deem'd more worthy there 

To fill with dignity the Pastoral chair." 
To the lines on Mr. Miller is prefixed a memoir by Dr. 
Wilson, late President of Trinity. Messrs. Parker have 
also issued Aristotelis de Arte Poetica (Vahlen's Text), 
with Notes by the Rev. E. Moore, B.D., Principal of St. 
Edmund Hall, Oxford. It appears that some eighty 
years have elapsed since the appearance of an English 
edition of the Poetics ; Mr. Moore's object, therefore, is 
to place before the English student the latest results of 
modern research. Ought we to Obey the New Court 
Created by the Public Worship Regulation A ct ? by 
Orby Shipley, M.A. (Pickering), is opportunely reprinted 
from the Contemporary Review, with, for motto, an ex- 
tract from Hooker, book viii., Ecc. Pol., " If the cause 

be spiritual boldly and lawfully we may refuse to 

answer before any civil judge." Mr. Shipley concludes 
his paper thus, "As the Question ultimately revolves 
itself into one of obedience to God or man, the writer 
can only, with much diffidence, yet with all earnestness, 



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[5 th S. V. FEB. 12, 



make answer that, We cannot recognize the new judge, 
we ou-bt not to obey the New Court, created by the 
authority of the Public Worship Regulation Act. In a 
Handbook to Fairford Church (Fairford, T Powell) will 
be found a full description of its memorable windows. 
Mr H W. Henfrey has printed separately his papers on 
Oliver 'Cromwell's Sceptre and The National Flags of the 
Commonwealth; and Mr. W. Winters has published, in 
commemoration of its restoration by Sir T. P. Buxton, a 
history of the Lady Chapel of Waltham Abbey .The 
Book of the Generation of Jems Christ (Macintosh) is an 
explanation, by the Rev. G. W. Butler, M.A., of the dif- 
ficulties connected with the genealogy of our Lord. 

THE Librarianship of the Queen's College, Cork, has 
been conferred on Dr. Caulfield, Royal Cork Institution. 

A SECOND edition has been called for of the Law 
Mawriue and Review for February, in which the article 
on the " Ex-territoriality of Public Ships of War in 
Foreign Waters" is from the pen of Sir Travers Twiss. 



to 

ON all communications should be written the name and 
address of the sender, not necessarily for publication, but 
as a guarantee of good faith. 

W. Huni-sox. The answer may be found in England's 
Worthies in Church and State, c. xiv., "Note here that 
in the time of Henry VI. de such a place was left off, 
and the addition of knight or squire was assumed, though 
not generally in all places." 

MR. J. MALAWI. We will attentively read whatever 
our correspondent may please to send us on the subject 
of the picture which is said to represent the marriage of 
Shakspeitre and Anne Hathaway. The MS. already re- 
ceived is not to the purpose. 

lo'OiiAMts has only to ask his wine-merchant for an 
answer to his first query. The Irish word in the second 
query denotes the two materials of which the dish is 
made. 

K. E. M. It is now known that the interesting ac- 
count of Collin?, the poet, in the Gentleman's Magazine, 
signed V., was by Gilbert White, of Selborne. 

A. J. I>. asks, " In which of Thomas Carlyle's works 
can I find his remarks on Mr. A. C. Swinburne ]" 

HEEMEKTRUDE. It only applies to new correspon- 
dents. 

'A. There should be no mark whatever on the final 
vowel. The use of the sign named is quite erroneous. 

C. (''. II. Received; accept our thanks. 

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CONTENTS. N 112. 

NOTES :" Monsieur Valentin," 141 The Catacombs at 
Rome and Elsewhere, 142 Shakspeariana, 143" Kine " : 
" Kye " : " Swine," 144 Augustinians The Religion of J. 
S. Mill " Afternoon Tea" The Southern Cross, 145 Elec- 
tric Telegraph Invented in 1787 The Conjugal State How 
Myths Arise Satirical Heraldry A Strange Coincidence 
The Weather Romanesque, 146. 

QUERIES :-Gio. Battista Peruschi Feake Family-Sir Peter 
Lely Coronation Copies of the "Sun" Newspaper Sir 
Philip Courtenay, 147 Khedive Gladiatoria Herba Foun- 
tains Running Wine The Largest Park in England J. P. 
Phillips B. Bjornsen Triest, Bishop of Ghent An Old 
Violin Chr. Ussher Petrarch , <fcc. Rev. R. Gibson- 
Heraldic " Abberd " Orrery Epitaph on a Daughter of 
Thomas, seventh Earl of Ormonde, 148 Wherries "Jab- 
berwocky" Extraordinary Longevity Lieut. -Gen. Sir Alex. 
Gordon The Helmet in Heraldry Earl Howe and the 
Penns, 149. 

REPLIES : The O'Neills of France and.Spain, 149 "Coming 
through the rye," 150 Snowstorms, 151" The Book," by 
Mrs. Serres, 152-Theophilus Swift, 153 Horngarth Saying 
the Nicene Creed" Js there anything new under the sun ? " 
154 Anti-Abolition-of-Slavery Broadsheets Curious Errors 
caused by the Homonymy Miniature of Gainsborough The 
Toothache ascribed to the Gnawing of a Worm Sound in 
Fogs, 155 "Lending Boxes " " The Unclaimed Daughter " 
" Russian-like Apparel " Etymology of " Golden " The 
De Bradefordes and Bamburgh Castle Easter on April 16, 
156 -G. Butler of Ballyragget The Charterhouse : Beavors 
Justifiable Homicide, or Manslaughter? 157 Musical 
Revenge : " Hudibras "Heraldic Sir Henry Wotton, 158. 

Notes on Books, &c. 



"MONSIEUR VALENTIN." 
A lady correspondent has gently, we might say 
tenderly, reproached us for having omitted, in the 
last number of " N. & Q.," all reference to Bishop 
Valentine and the festival of lovers. The reason 
for the omission may be shortly given. All that 
could be said of the good man and the festival has 
been already said, over and over again. This, at 
least, in as far as it relates to England. Shall we 
be so fortunate as to recover the good will of our 
fair reprover if we say a word or two touching the 
saint and what is thought of him in France, in 
short, about, if he may be so called without irre- 
verence, Monsieur Valentin 1 Essayons. 

Where (to begin with) does Monsieur Valentin 
first turn up ? Well, almost naturally, perhaps the 
earliest occurrence of the term " Valentine," as 
signifying a lover, is to be found in Eabelais 
(1485-1553). In the eighth chapter of the third 
book (Pantagruel), the author supports certain 
Rabelaisian assertions by saying, " temoing Vivar- 
diere, ce noble Valentin." In the glossary to the 
Paris edition (Desoer, 1820), "Valentin" is inter- 
preted " galantin "=a gallant. In the Amsterdam 
edition, 1741, the word "Valentin" has a more 
extended illustration. " It is the custom in several 
cities of France, on the evening of the first Sunday 
in Lent, for the little people of the streets to assign, 



by loud cries, to the young girls of the place 
their Valentins, and to the young fellows their 
Valentines; in other words, gallants to the damsels, 
and mistresses to the youths. It is clear from this," 
says the editor, " that Valentin is a diminutive of 
galant, and as in old romances no chevalier pre- 
sumes to declare his love to a lady till he has dis- 
tinguished himself by his prowess in combat, it is 
possible that Valentin and galant are derived 
from valens. Moreover, this same word Valentin 
formerly also signified a dealer in jewellery and 
fine things known by the name of galanteries" 
The writer then quotes from Gille d'Aurigrii's 
Ordonnances sur les Faits des Masques the follow- 
ing passage, printed at the end of the Arrets 
d' Amour, by Martial d'Auvergne : 

" Item, est defendu a tous marchands de draps, de 
soye, ou de laine, chapeliers, plumaciers, brodeurs, 
valentins, vendeurs de masques et parfums de refuser 
prester, battler a credit leurs denrees aux compaignons 
masquez eans fraude, depuis la veille de Saint Martin 
dYver jusques a la sernaine sainte inclusivement, en 
baillant par les dictes masquez leur grivelee, pourveu 
qu'au precedent ils n'ayent este cadellez et attachez." 

In the sixteenth century, the date on which the 
French swains paid their devoirs to the nymphs 
was not on our Valentine's Day, but Innocents' Day, 
or Childermas, the 28th of December. The former 
took upon themselves the right to enter, on the 
morning of the anniversary, the houses of friends 
and neighbours, and, wherever they found a nymph 
still in bed, they proceeded to administer a chas- 
tisement for her laziness. Of course this could be 
avoided by timely rising ; yet occasionally there 
were daring damsels who remained snugly and 
defiantly in bed, but these 'claimed exemption from 
the penalty by exhibiting the arms of France 
painted upon them in a way which Voltaire and 
Rabelais would have been delighted to describe, 
and which " N. & Q." need not attempt. 

In Lorraine and Bar the custom of couples be- 
coming each other's Valentine prevailed at the 
ducal court as well as it did in villages, where it 
is still said to linger. In the accounts of the ducal 
household at Nancy there is the entry of a sum 
expended by the Duke Charles III. for a gift to 
the Countess of Salm, " who had been his Valen- 
tine." This was very common on this side the 
Channel in the seventeenth century. 

In that century, in the year 1669, the Paris 
publisher, Cl. Barbier, put forth an octavo of a 
hundred and twenty-six pages, called Valentins, 
Questions d? Amour et autres Pieces Galantes. Ac- 
cording to the preface, the writing of such pieces 
of love and gallantry was of a remote origin : 

" The play of Valentines was invented a long time 
ago; but it is only recently that Valentines have been 
versified. Those upon which I have put my hand are 
to be found in this book. Now, the sport or game of 
Valentines, to be played properly, must be played in 
this way. The written names of thirty men and thirty 
.women must be put into sixty different pieces of paper ; 



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therewith sixty different madrigals, or verses, must also 
be put up. The name of a man and that of a woman 
are then drawn from the separate collections ; also a 
madrigal for each, which madrigals are then read aloud 
to see what each person says to the other. Whether 
the replies are applicable or not to the persons, the 
result is often most amusing, and I hope that the variety 
of epigrams in this volume will divert the reader. 

The collection consists of sixty-two madrigals, 
three letters (prose), and questions on love matters, 
in prose, with the replies in verse. 

Long after the memory of St. Valentine had 
died out in France, while "1'amour galant" sur- 
vived, a lay impostor was introduced in his place. 
The French newspaper, La Libcrte, on the 21st of 
December, 1869, after stating that an innocent 
new game, called " Les Annonces Rimees," or 
" Rhymed Advertisements," was likely to be very 
popular throughout the winter, remarked : 

"After all, this is no novelty ; it is simply a renewing 
of what is very old. In the ' grand siecle ' people played 
at that rhyming game ; but it was called the game of 
Valentines, from the humble name of the inventor (!). 
In court and city Valentines were for some time all the 
rage, but they suddenly ceased after the Duke de Che- 
vreuse had killed, in a duel, a gentleman who had sent 
him a Valentine, in these Avords : 

' Monseigneur le Due de Chevreuse, 
L'air faux, 1'oeil pourri, la dent creuse.' " 
Further information concerning the French Va- 
lentine our fair correspondent will find, for the 
seeking, in the books named above, and in one 
which has not been named, the Intermedia-ire, the 
index to the last volume of which has been to 
ourselves a useful indicator. Having said thus 
much, we return to England, and boldly assert that 
our old love poetry is better worth reading, and 
keeping in memory, than all else that has been 
said or sung upon the subject, put together. We 
part from the saint and the subject, with Ben 
Jensen's view of both, as lie has set forth in A 
Tale of a Tub: 

" Bishop Valentine 

Left us example to do deeds of charity, 
To feed the hungry, clothe the naked, visit 
Tin- weak and sick, to entertain the poor, 
And give the dead a Christian funeral. 
These were the works of piety he did practise, 
And bade us imitate, not look for lovers, 
Or handsome images to please our senses." 
There only remains to be said, that in Mr. Bar- 
ing-Gould's Lirts of the tiaints a dozen different 
saints and martyrs, of the name of Valentine, are 
noticed, with the places where their relics are now 
deposited. The name was a common one ; but 
we cannot do better than remain devotees of the 
bishop whose teaching is conveyed to us in the 
above words of Ben Jonson. ED. 



THE CATACOMBS AT ROME AND ELSEWHERE 

(Continued from p. 23.) 

Since writing my former notes on this subject 
I have found, in a book entitled Belfast and it 



Environs, with a Tour to the Giants' Causeway, 
published in Dublin in 1842, a curious account of 
what have been hitherto regarded as ancient coal 
mines, but which, it is thought, there is the 
trongest reason to believe are ancient catacombs. 
Ballycastle is a town in the county of Antrim, 
on its northern coast, about three miles south-west 
Torn Fair Head, and twelve miles east from the 
Giants' Causeway. There is coal in the neighbour- 
lood of Fair Head. The coal was attempted to be 
wrought about the year 1770, but without success. 
After mentioning these particulars, the book re- 
ferred to then goes on to say (p. 120): 

"It has been a subject of some discussion at what 
period the coal mines were originally worked. In 
Hamilton's letters, it is related that, in 1770, the miners, 
n pushing forward an adit towards the bed of coal, at 
an unexplored part of the Ballycastle cliff, unexpectedly 
broke through the rock into a narrow passage almost 
choked up. Two lads were sent forward, who soon found 
themselves in a mine [T], branching off into numerous 
apartments, in the mazes and windings of which they 
were completely bewildered, and were finally extricated 
not without some difficulty. On being examined, it was 
found that this had been an extensive mine [1], wrought 
in the most expert manner, the chambers regularly dressed, 
and pillars left at proper intervals to support the roof. 
Remains of the tools [1] were found, and even some of 
the baskets used, but they crumbled to pieces on being 
touched. The antiquity of these works was inferred, in 
the first instance, from the non-existence of any tradition 
in the country referring to them ; and still further from 
the sparry incrustations which covered the sides ani the 
pillars. A difficulty seems to arise from the impro- 
bability that, in a country known, as Ireland is, to have 
been covered with woods in the times of the first English 
settlers, the inhabitants should have recourse to such a 
laborious process as mining to procure fuel. ' From 
recorded evidence,' Mr. Hamilton states, 'it appears 
almost certain that the mine could not have been 
wrought at any period subsequent to the reign of Queen 
Elizabeth, that is, later than the year 1602 ; and whoever 
shall launch forth into the annals of Ireland during the 
preceding ages will find himself extremely embarrassed 
to discover any moment of time at which either the 
means, or the necessity, of the kingdom could admit of 
it, until he shall have reached the peaceful shore which 
bounds the turbulent chaos of events that succeeded the 
eighth century. In fine, the discovery of this colliery [!] 
is one of those proofs which, ivithout directly deciding 
either time or persons, tend strongly to show that there 
was an age when Ireland enjoyed a considerable share of 
civilization. Yet most of the English writers, conceiving 
this desolate and distracted kingdom to have been natu- 
rally such as they found it, eagerly pronounced it, with 
all the intemperate bitterness of enemies, to be a nation 
without laws, without monuments, without records, 
without any traces whatever of former civilization ; but 
many things, which have still escaped the wreck of time 
and the fury of invaders, concur in demonstrating this 
to be a hasty assertion.' The correctness of Mr. Hamil- 
ton's judgment in assigning so remote a period, as we have 
seen he has done, to the original working of these 
collieries, is established satisfactorily by some facts 
noticed by Mr. Barrow in his tour, to which [tour] we 
have already adverted. First, no trace of blasting ap- 
pears, which leads to the inference that the colliery was 
worked before the discovery of gunpowder ; next, the 
wicks of the candles were "formed of rags; but still 



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further, the stone hammers which were found in the 
mine were of the rudest and most ancient form. Mr. 
Barrow states that one which he obtained, of a form 
nearly globular, and of which he has given an engraving, 
was of ' ponderous and close-grained basalt, about four 
pounds in weight, some being heavier and others lighter. 
A groove was made, evidently with difficulty, round it, 
the ends meeting in a flat surface underneath, against 
which the wedge that was used to tighten the shaft of 
the hammer appears to have been placed, which shaft 
was probably a twisted withe of willow or hazel, or a 
strap of tough hide passed round the groove.' The stone 
implements, as well as the axe-heads and flint arrow- 
heads, and other weapons of similar materials, preceded, 
beyond all doubt, the introduction of metallic arms and 
tools." 

The reason why the excavations have been 
supposed to be coal mines has no doubt arisen 
from this, that those who have hitherto written 
about them were not aware what else they 
could be ; and besides, in this case the catacombs 
exist in proximity to coal, which is not the 
case in Italy and other countries. There can be 
no reasonable doubt, however, that the Cimmerii 
or Cymry might, and no doubt would, where coal 
was found in connexion with their catacombs, avail 
themselves of its advantages. Perhaps readers of 
" N. & Q." in the county of Antrim will examine 
the excavations, and make the results known. 

And now, as bearing on the point in issue, what 
is the original meaning of Antrim ? But as I 
have taken up enough of the space of " N. & Q." 
on this occasion with reference to this subject, I 
shall defer my further remarks thereon to a subse- 
quent number. HENRY KILGOUR. 



SHAKSPEARIANA. 

" As You LIKE IT," ACT n. sc. 7. 

" Till that the very very means do ebb." 

All interpretations proposed for this verse seem 
to me unsatisfactory, as they have no reference to 
the metaphor of the sea and its tides. At length 
a correction suggests itself to me from the Mer- 
chant of Venice, iv. 1 : 

" And bid the main flood bate his usual height." 

I would substitute " mains " for " means," and 
understand it as an implied comparison of a 
wealthy citizen's affluence to the " main flood " or 
springtide, which yet is reduced to an ebb by the 
extravagance of his wife, " the city woman." We 
know that the higher the flood, the lower is the 
ebb. S. T. P. 

" As You LIKE IT," ACT n. sc. 4. 
" I '11 go sleep if I can : if I cannot, I'll rail against 
all the first-born of Egypt." 

What is the precise meaning to be attached to 
this speech of Jaques 1 Johnson believed that 
the phrase " first-born of Egypt " referred to the 
high born or great men of the world ; but surely 
the associations connected with the first-born of 



Egypt were those of the plague, and Jaques's 
allusion would refer rather to doomed or stricken 
men. Nares says, in his Glossary, that he knew 
no other instance of the phrase. Have any of your 
readers ever met with it 1 SPERIEND. 

" HAMLET," ACT i. sc. 3. MR. BEALE'S reading 
(5 th S. iv. 182), " Most select and generous chiefs 
in that," may be " true, natural, and grammati- 
cal," but it seems to lack force and probability. 
There are many renderings of this passage, and yet 
I venture to think the true meaning is sufficiently 
simple. If we read, 

" And they in France of the best rank and station 
Are most select and generous, chief in that" 

we can understand that the French nobles were 
lavish both of pains and expense, " chief in that " 
particular of the habit, 

" Costly as thy purse can buy, 
But not express'd in fancy; rich, not gaudy." 

W. WHISTON. 

BROGUES (5 th S. iv. 223.) This word seems to 
mean the covering of the lower part of the male 
person in that once well-known poem, The, School- 
mistress, by Shenstone. It occurs in the graphic 
description of the whipping inflicted on the idle 
boy by the schoolmistress with her birch-rod for 
neglecting his lesson : 

" For, brandishing the rod, she doth begin 
To loose the Iroyiies, the stripling's late delight." 

VlRGA. 

SHAKSPEARE ILLUSTRATIONS. THE SEVEN 
AGES. 

" Into how many ages is mans life divided 1 

" Mans life by the computation of Astrologers, is 
divided into seaven ages : over every one of which, one 
of the seaven planets is predominant : the first age is 
called infancie, which continueth the space of seaven 
yeares. And then the Moone raigneth, as appeareth by 
the moyst constitutions of children, agreeing well with 
the influence of that planet. 

"The second age named childhood, lasteth seaven 
yeares more, and endeth in the fourteenth of our life. 
Over this age, Mercuric (which is the second sphere) 
ruleth ; for then children are unconstant, tractable, and 
soone enclined to learne. 

" The third age endureth eight yeares, and is termed 
the strippling age : It beginneth at the fourteenth yeare, 
and continueth until the end of the two and twentieth. 
During which time, governeth the planet Venus : For 
then we are prone to prodigality, gluttonie, drunken- 
nesse, lechery, and sundry kindes of vices. 

" The fourth age contayneth twelve yeares, till a man 
be foure and thirtie, and then is he named a young man. 
Of this age the Sunne is chiefe Lord : Now a man is 
wittie, well advised, magnanimous, and comming to 
know him self e. 

" The fift age is called mans age, and hath sixe and 
twentie yeares for the continuance thereof, subject to 
Mars ; for now a man is stout, covetous, and worldly. 

" The sixt age hath fourteene yeares, that is, from 
three-score, till three-score and fourteen. This age is 
termed Viridis senectus, that is, flourishing olde age, 



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of which Jupiter is master, a planet significant of equity, 
temperance and religion. 

" The seaventh and last (by order) of these ages con- 
tinueth the residue of a mans life. This age, by the 
meanes of that planet Saturne, which is melancholick 
and most slow of all other, causeth man to be drooping, 
decrepit, forward ; cold and rnelancholick." Vaughan a 
Directions for Health, 5th ed., 1617 (first published 

" A humane body in its variation and surcrease,may 
be similized to the nature of the 7. planetts, viz. milkie 
enfancie to Luna, the pratling Schoole age to Mercury, 
the juvenall flowring May time to Venus ; the florishing 
and resplendent middle age to Sol ; the virile and dare- 
ing manhood to Mars ; the better tempered and advized 
governing to Jupiter ; the highest soule flying, and de- 
crepit body moveing, to Saturne." Done's Polydoron, 
probably published early in the seventeenth century. 

FALSTAFF ox HONOUR. There is a curious 
parallelism in Guzman d'Alfarache: 

" Here (Guzman) thou shalt see what a kinde thing 
Honour is : It is the sonne of Nothing ; the Child that 
knowes neither father, nor mother; the Earth's off- 
spring, being raised out of the dust thereof; it is a i'raile 
Vessell full of crackes, of flawes and of holes, uncapable 
of containing any thing in it that is of any moment or 
worth.* Favour hath endeavoured to mend this broken 
Bucket, and to stop the Leakes thereof with clouts and 
with ranges ; and putting thereunto the rope of private 
interest, they now draw up water with it, and it seemed 
to be very beneficiall and profitable unto them. 

" Why shouldst thou keep a stirre, and trouble thy- 
self for that, which to-morrow is to be no more, and 
when it is at the most is of no long continuance ? What 
doest tliou, or any else know, what is become of the 
Mayor domo to King Don Pelayo, or of the Chamber- 
laine to Conde Fernan Goncales ] They had honour, 
and they held it, but neither of them, nor that, is any 
memory remaining. So shalt thou the next day be for- 
gotten, as if thou hadst never beene at all." Aleman's 
Guzman d'A/jarache, translated by Mabbe, 1623. 

"ClIAIRBONXE . . . POISSON," All's Well, 1. 3. 

Many years ago your old and valued correspondent 
MR. BEX.T. EASY contributed an interesting illus- 
tration of this passage. Vaughan, however, cites 
another proverb on the subject : 

" He that loves yong flesh and old fish, loves contrary 
to reason 

' Qui veut jeune chair et vieux poisson 
Se troue repugner a raison.' " 

Directions for Health, 1617. 
" ACCOMMODATED," 2 Hen. IV., iii. 2. 
" Cel. Comment entendez-vous ce mot s'accommoder ] 
" Phil. J'ay voulu dire que chacun s'en sert a sa 
ppste. Or gcachez que ce mot s'accommoder est aujour- 
d buy accommode a toutes choses. 

" . Voila bien des nouvelles. Mais comment] 
^ "Phil. On dit... s'accommoder des habits de quelcun : 
8 accommoder du cheval de quelcun, s'accommoder de la 
femme de quelcun : u quoy il ne taut point d'exposi- 
tion 



" Cel. A ce que je voy, il y a beaucoup de nouvelles 
sortes d accommodations. 

* The original has " el hijo de nadie, que se levanto 
lei polvo de la tierra siendo vasija quebradiza, llena de 
agujeros, rota sin capazidad que en ella cupiera cosa de 
algun momento," &c., ed. Amberes, 1736. 



" Phil. Encores y en a-t-il une outre ceste-ci : quand on 
dit, II 1'a bien accommode, en parlant d'un que quelcun 
aura bien batu," &c. Estienne, Deux Dialogues du 
Nouveau Lane/age Francois, Anvers, 1583. 

C. ELLIOT BROWNE. 



"KINE": "KYE": " SWINE." These forms 
have already been much discussed, but, as it 
appears to me, without arriving at a right con- 
clusion (see " N. & Q.," 4 th S. xi. 345). Kefrain- 
ing from further reference to what has already 
been said about them, it is my aim simply to show 
that kine and swine are but modified forms of the 
obsolete plural in en of cow and sow;. The words 
belong to the northern parts of Britain ; they re- 
quire, therefore, to be analyzed with special refer- 
ence to the dialectal peculiarities which there 
prevail. One of these is that the rounded o-sounds, 
and others besides, of the south of England become 
flattened and attenuated into ai, i, and ee. A 
Scotchwoman, being remonstrated with by her 
landlady on account of a too obstreperous display 
of animal spirits, the result of indulgence in spirits 
of another kind, retorted, " I pee my wee (pay my 
way), and what is't to you?" The words both, 
cloth,, proof, and spoon become baith, claith, prief, 
and speen in Scottish. In the Lancashire dialect 
pound is pronounced as paind. It is hence evident 
that cowen, by contraction koion, would be ordi- 
narily pronounced as kain or kine. Again, kye, in 
Old English cy, similarly investigated, will prove 
to be simply an abbreviation of kine. A peculiarity 
of the Scotch dialect is the suppression of the 
liquids, I, m, n, at the end of words. Thus we 
have ha', wa\ frac, and upo\ for the words hall, 
wall, from, and upon. As an instance directly to 
the point, we find in Burns's Poems (" To William 
Simpson Postscript") " stick and stoive," instead 
of " stick and stone." Kye or cy, therefore, instead 
of being a plural of cu by vowel change, is merely 
a colloquial contraction of kine. 

To come to the word swine, the regular plural 
of sow is sowcn. To account for the form swowen, 
as easily changed into swine as cowen into kine, we 
have the fact that in many languages o-sounds, in 
the middle of a word, had a tendency to develope 
an intercalary w before or after them. In the 
Cockney dialect, gwyne represents the word going. 
This tendency is remarkable in the Erench 
diphthong oi, the words bon soir, for instance, 
being so sounded as to admit of being travestied 
into "Bob swore." But independently of ex- 
traneous instances, we find palpable evidence of 
such a dialectal peculiarity in the west of Eng- 
land, possibly through a Danish influence, where 
boy is pronounced as bwoy. In the song of 
"George Eidler's Oven" (5 th S. ii. 112), we find 
the words go, pot, and coat represented by gwo, 
pivoot, and civoat. Again, the Old English word 
suster (sister) occurs in the A.-S. Chron., under 



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A.D. 888, as sveostor* These considerations seem 
to furnish irresistible evidence that sowen would 
often be pronounced as sivowen, and that swine, 
therefore, is truly the normal plural of sow, slightly 
modified. The objection that swine cannot be 
founded on sow, on account of the latter term 
being restricted to a female pig, whereas the 
former applies to the whole porcine genus, is 
removed by the fact that several words originally 
and properly referring to sex have since been used 
as generic terms. The word child strictly implies 
a female, and is still used in that sense in the 
south-west of England ; yet it is now a generic 
term for offspring of either sex. So stag properly 
signifies a male, and was used in that sense not 
only in the case of quadrupeds, but even' of a 
gander and cock (Morris's English Accidence, 
p. 87, ed. 1872) ; yet staghound is now synonymous 
with deerhound. The words Jane, kye, and swine 
are, therefore, susceptible of a rational explanation 
by a reference to the times and regions in which 
they originated, and need not be regarded as mys- 
teries only to be accounted for by having recourse 
to gratuitous assumptions. W. B. 

AUGUSTINIANS are, according to Bailey, "heretics, 
called also Sacramentarians, holding that the gates 
of heaven are shut till the resurrection." This 
sentiment appears to have prevailed amongst some 
of the clergy of and after the Reformation, but not 
all. In the church at Wrexham, North Wales, 
there is a fine monumental design of the last judg- 
ment by Roubiliac. The tomb is represented as 
falling in pieces, and the beautiful figure of its 
tenant appears clothed, wonderfully expressed. 
Marguerite de Valois, Duchess of Alencon, after- 
wards Queen of Navarre, a woman of eminent 
piety, a friend of Calvin and of the Reformation, 
had varied feelings upon this subject. Marguerite 
used to say to those who discoursed to her of 
death and of the happiness of heaven, " All that 
is indeed true, but we must continue a long time 
dead under the earth before we come to the enjoy- 
ment of happinesss." In her published writings, 
written at the end of October, 1549, less than two 
months before her death, she explicitly asserts the 
blessedness of the souls of the good immediately 
after death, and in confirmation of it quotes our 
Lord's reply to the repentant thief : " To-day shalt 
thou be with me in paradise" a much more 
comfortable and more spiritual doctrine than the 
other. J. B. P. 

Barbourne, Worcester. 

THE RELIGION OF JOHN STUART MILL. In 
reading the autobiography of this great man, I 
was so much struck with the following passage 
that I "made a note of it": 

" Since then (his wife's death) I have sought such alle- 



* Sviistor in some MSS. 



viation as my state admitted of, by the mode of life which 
most enabled me to feel her still near me. I bought a 
cottage as close as possible to the place where she is 
buried, and there her daughter (my fellow-sufferer and 
now my chief comfort) and I live constantly during a 
great portion of the year. My objects in life are solely 
those which were hers ; my pursuit and occupations those 
in which she shared or sympathized, and which are in- 
dissolubly associated with her. Her memory is to me a 
religion, and her approbation the standard by which, sum- 
ming up as it does all worthiness, I endeavour to regulate 
my life" 

With this passage J. S. Mill closed the first 
part of his work in 1861, not taking it up again 
for nine years ; and we may therefore regard it as 
a peroration, and the warmest expression of his 
feelings. I have italicized the most striking 
clauses in the quotation, because they would be 
almost as applicable in the mouth of a Christian 
speaking of Christ, as they were in the mouth of 
Mill speaking of Mrs. Taylor. And yet this man, 
whose mind is amongst the keenest this century 
has produced, failed to perceive that he had fallen 
into that position which he affected to despise. 
Although he had deliberately set aside the adora- 
tion of God, yet, being a man, he must obtain 
some objective rule of life ; and this he found in 
the approbation of the admirable lady whom he 
married. W. H. 

Hatfield Hall, Durham. 

" AFTERNOON TEA." In a late number of 
Chambers's Journal (Nov. 20, 1875) it is asserted 
that " afternoon tea is a product of advanced civi- 
lization " ; this little meal being generally sup- 
posed to have first come into vogue during the 
last decade or so. Like many other presumed 
novelties, however, it is merely the revival of a 
custom of the last century. Dr. Alexander Car- 
lyle, in his Autobiography, p. 434, describing the 
fashionable mode of living at Harrogate, in 1763, 
writes : 

" The ladies gave afternoon's tea and coffee in their 
turns, which, coming but once in four or five weeks, 
amounted to a trifle." 

H. A. KENNEDY. 

Junior United Service Club. 

THE SOUTHERN CROSS. A note on the late 
Mr. R. S. Hawker's Quest of the Sangraal, p. 32, 
informs us that there is an ancient legend to the 
effect that the star which guided the wise men to 
the infant Saviour was not a single star, but the 
five stars which make up the Southern Cross. 
These stars, it is held, were miraculously created 
on that occasion. This is pretty as a legend, but 
I gather from some expressions in the note that 
some persons are inclined to petrify the poetry 
thereof into a physical fact. Will some one, 
learned in the history of astronomy, tell us when 
the Southern Cross is first mentioned ? I have a 
strong impression that we have records of it far 
earlier than the birth of our Lord. GLIS. 



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ELECTRIC TELEGRAPH INVENTED IN 1787. 
Arthur Young {Travels in France, &c., pp. 65-79, 
editions 1792-94) states that on Oct. 15, 1787, he 
saw at a mechanician's, M. Lomond, at Paris, a 
room with a cylindric electric machine and pith- 
ball electrometer. A wire connected this appa- 
ratus with a similar one in a distant apartment. 
Two or three written words given to monsieur in 
the first room caused him to set his electrometer 
in motion, which made the other one to correspond 
thereto. In this second room madame read the 
letters (A, B, c) from the pith-ball motions there. 
Thus A. Young says they " have invented an alpha- 
bet of motions useful for besieged cities' communi- 
cating outside," &c. But Voltci subitb changed 
motor, though not the principle. 

S. M. DRACH. 

Upper Barnsbury Street. 

THE CONJUGAL STATE. The following lines, 
said to be on a tombstone in the churchyard at 
Croydon, are perhaps worthy of a corner in " N. 
& Q." : 

" They were so one, it never could be said 
Which of them rul'd, or which of them obey'd ; 
He rul'd because her wish was to obey, 
And she, by obeying, rul'd as well as he : 
There never was between them a dispute, 
Save which the other's will should execute." 

E. H. A. 

How MYTHS ARISE. A few weeks ago a lady 
told me in all seriousness that the Prince of Wales 
had bought from Mr. Plimpton his patent for 
roller skates, and that threepence out of every 
sixpence paid at the rinks for the use of skates 
went to the Prince. The story was too absurd for 
nie to give it a moment's credence, and I could 
only wonder how it had found its way into people's 
mouths. This morning (Dec. 18), however, I found 
a very probable solution of the difficulty in the 
advertisement columns of the Daily News, for 
there, in an advertisement of a skating-rink com- 
pany in the process of formation, I read the follow- 
ing : 



"It is intended to use the 'Plimpton' patent 
under an agreement entered into with Messrs. Prince, of 
Prince's Club, who are identified with, and hold an interest 
in, the patent." 

The name " Prince " had gradually and uncon- 
sciously been turned into " the Prince of Wales" ! 

F. CHANCE. 
Sydenliam Hill. 

SATIRICAL HERALDRY. The following piece of 
satirical heraldry occurs on the last page of March- 
mont Needham's Nhort History of the English 
Jlebellion, completed in Verse, 4to., 1661 : 

" The Coat of Arms of Sir John Presbyter. He 
beareth parte per pale indented, God's glory and his 
own interest : over all pleasure, honour, profit counter- 
changed : ensigned with an Helmet of Ignorance, open'd 
with confidence, befitting his degree. Mantled with 



Gules and Tyranny, doubled with Hypocrasie, over a 
wreath of Pride and Covetousnesse. For his Crest 
a sinister hand holding up a Solemn League and Cove- 
nant reverst and torn. In a Scrole underneath the 
shield these words for his motto, A ut hoc aut Nihil. 

" This Coat of Armour is dupall'd with another of four 
pieces, signifying thereby his four matches. 

" The first is of the Family of Amsterdam. She bears 
for her arms, in a field of Toleration, three Jewes heads 
proper, with as many blew caps on them. 

" The second is the house of Geneva. She bears for her 
Arms, in a field of Separation, marginal Notes on the 
Bible false quoted. 

" The third is of the Countrey of Xew England. She 
bears for her Arms a Prickear'd Preach-man percht 
upon a Pulpit proper holding forth a Schismatical 
Directory. 

" The fourth and last is of Scotland. She bears in her 
Escutchion the field of Rebellion charged with a stool of 
Repentence." 

GLIS. 

A STRANGE COINCIDENCE. A country priest, of 
a notoriously bad character, had a dispute about 
money matters with the tax-collector of the dis- 
trict, who soon afterwards disappeared, when a 
strong suspicion arose that the priest had mur- 
dered the man. About the same time a man was 
executed for highway robbery, and his body was 
gibbeted in chains by the roadside, as was then 
(1650) the custom. The friends of the highway- 
man came one night and took his body down, so> 
that they might bury it ; but, being disturbed, 
they threw the body into a pond near the priest's 
residence. Shortly after, some men in dragging* 
the pond for fish brought up the body in their nets, 
and it was immediately said to be the body of the 
tax-collector, and the finger of suspicion was pointed 
at the priest, who was arrested, tried, and con- 
demned. He most solemnly protested his inno- 
cence ; but, when the day of execution arrived, he 
admitted that he had murdered the missing man. 
" But, nevertheless," said he, " I am unjustly con- 
demned, for the tax-collector's body, with that of 
his dog, still lies buried in my garden, where I 
killed them both." Search was made, when the 
bodies of the man and dog were found in the place 
described ; and inquiries brought to light the secret 
of the body found in the pond. Gilles Menage, 
born at Angiers, 1613, was engaged as counsel in 
the above curious trial. FREDK. RULE. 

THE WEATHER. Jan. 22 is the Feast of SS. 
Vincent and Anastasius : 

" Remember in St. Vincent's day 
If the sun his beams display, 
'Tis a token, bright and clear, 
That you will have a prosperous year." 

Saturday, Jan. 22, was a fine winter day : let us. 
hope it will fulfil the prediction to all the readers 
of "N. &Q. J. C. 

ROMANESQUE. We are indebted to the Rev. 
William Gunn, of Caius College, Cambridge,. 



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author of An Inquiry into the Origin and Influ- 
ences of Gothic Architecture, for the introduction of 
this word into the language. See Palmer's 
Perlustration of Yarmouth, iii. 358. ANON. 



[We must request correspondents desiring information 
on family matters of only private interest, to affix their 
names and addresses to their queries, in order that the 
answers may be addressed to them direct.] 

REUER. PADRE Gio. BATTISTA PERUSCHI 

ROMANO BELLA CoMPAGNIA DI GlESV Was the 

author of an Italian work entitled Informatione 
del Regno, e Stato del gran Be di Mogor, Brescia, 
1759, 12mo., in 71 pp. 

" There is considerable uncertainty as to the time of 
the birth and death of Muhammad Kasim Hindu Shah, 
surnamed Firishtah. General Briggs says that he was 
born at Astarabad about A.D. 1570, and supposes that he 
died in A.D. 1612. M. Mohl, however, places his birth in 
A.D. 1550, and thinks that he revised his work at least 
up to A. D. 1623. Sir Henry Elliot states these differences, 
but has not cleared up the doubt." Catalogue of Histori- 
cal MSS., Arabic and Persian, in the Library of the Roval 
Asiatic Society, p. 63, by W. H. Morley, M.R.A.S. ; 
History of India, vi. 209, by Sir H. Elliot, edited by 
Professor John Dowson, Staff College, Sandhurst. 

The Persian words, Firishta and Hindu Shah, 
meaning missionary and Hindu king, forming no 
portion of Mahunimad Kasim's proper name, might 
not the required dates be obtained by inquiry at 
Brescia for information regarding the life and 
travels of the early Indian historian, Gio. Battista 
Peruschi ? E. 

Starcross, near Exeter. 

FEAKE FAMILY. Are any of this name now 
living in England who can afford me information 
respecting the parentage of Henry, Robert, and 
Tobias Feake, brothers, or near relatives, who 
emigrated to New England about 1630-1 1 Henry 
settled at Lynn, Mass., but afterwards removed to 
Sandwich, and subsequently to Newtown, Long 
Island, where he died in the latter part of the 
year 1657, leaving three children. Robert was of 
Watertown, near Boston, Mass. He married, in 
1632. Elizabeth (Fones) Winthrop, daughter of 
Thomas Fones, of London, and widow of Henry, 
the son of Governor John Winthrop ; was lieutenant 
"to Capt. Daniel Patrick, and accompanied him 
and Capt. John Underbill on their removal from 
Boston to Stamford and Greenwich, Conn., in 
1640. Tobias also accompanied Capt. Patrick, 
and after the latter's death married his widow, and 
removed to Flushing, L.I. 

There was a family of the name living at or 
near Norwich, in Norfolk county, in the early part 
of the seventeenth century, and another at Stafford, 
in Staffordshire. Where can I procure pedigrees 
of these families ? Was Christopher Feake, the 



Anabaptist preacher, time of Cromwell, of this 
family ? At the time of his arrest and imprison- 
ment by Cromwell's orders, 1653, he had a wife 
and eight children. What were their names? 
Were Samuel and John Feake, the former a 
director of the East India Company, and the latter 
for several years Governor of Bengal, descendants 
of Christopher ? J. J. LATTING. 

64, Madison Avenue, New York, U.S.A. 

SIR PETER LELY. In a work which has acci- 
dentally fallen under my notice, entitled Life and 
Writings of Constantine Ehodocanake, there is a 
portrait of this well-known physician, which is 
said to be after an original of Sir Peter Lely. The 
learned doctor is represented in the robes of an 
order of knighthood, and with the insignia of 
royalty. What proof is there that Sir Peter ever 
painted such a portrait ? The internal evidence is 
against such being the fact. Dr. Rhodocanake 
came to England to earn his livelihood as honestly 
as possible, and is not likely to have subjected 
himself to the imputation of being a charlatan or 
buffoon. Had he ever claimed the title of 
"imperial highness," or appeared in such a 
masquerade costume, surely we should have heard 
of these pretensions through the diarists of that 
period. The portrait appears to me to bear every 
evidence of imposture, the intention, no doubt, 
being to transform the poor alchemist of Lely's 
time into a personage of importance. P. K. A. 

CORONATION COPIES OF THE " SUN " NEWS- 
PAPER. I have in my possession copies of these, 
printed in gold, first and second editions, dated 
respectively June 28 and July 6, 1838, containing 
reports of the ceremonial observed on the occasion 
of her Majesty's coronation. The price of the 
latter edition was Is., at which also the former, 
issued on the evening of the coronation, was sold 
to subscribers only, the immense expense incurred 
in its production having necessitated an increased 
charge to non-subscribers. Can any reader of 
" N. & Q." inform me as to this charge, which 
does not appear upon the paper itself, the pub- 
lishers assuming that " the public, who will be 
desirous to possess such an extraordinary specimen 
of the art of printing, will be willing to pay the 
sum which we shall find it necessary to demand to 
cover our expense " ? W. CHAPMAN. 

Waverley House, Kingston. 

SIR PHILIP COURTENAY, born in 1404, and 
ancestor of the present Earl of Devon, married 
Elizabeth, daughter of Walter Lord Hungerford, 
by which marriage he acquired Molland, in Devon- 
shire. 

His second son, Sir Philip Courtenay, had 
Molland for his portion, and married the daughter 
of Robert Hingeston (see Collins's Peerage, vol. vi. 
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branch of the family, the male line of which failed 
with John Courtenay, Esq., of Holland, who died 
in 1732, leaving a sister and heir, who married 
William Paston, Esq. (see Burke's Peerage, under 
"Devon"). 

I should be obliged if any correspondent would 
give me the continuation of the family from the 
aforesaid Sir Philip to the above-named John 
Courtenay. C. J. E. 

KHEDIVE. One hears just now so much of the 
Khedive of Egypt that it is, I hope, no unpardon- 
able curiosity to inquire what is the precise mean- 
ing of the title Khedive, and from whence it is 
derived. T. 

GLADIATORIA HERBA. What herb is this ? I 
should be much obliged by references to classical 
writers naming it. D. F. 

Hammersmith. 

FOUNTAINS RUNNING WINE. " This is no 
Grecian fable of fountains running wine." Macau- 
lay, Lays of Ancient Home, " Virginia." Where, 
in Homer or elsewhere, is there reference to such 
fountains ? D. F. 

WHICH is THE LARGEST PARK IN ENGLAND? 
Until the other day I had always been told that 
the largest park in England was that surrounding 
Grimsthorpe Castle, Lincolnshire, the seat of the 
Baroness Willoughby de Eresby. But I have now 
been told (on what seemed to be reliable autho- 
rity) that East well Park, Kent, is a little larger 
than Grimsthorpe Park. I am unable to give the 
acreage of either park ; but, probably, some cor- 
respondent of " N. & Q." can do so. 

CUTHBERT BEDE. 

JONAS B. PHILLIPS. This gentleman, who was 
an eminent lawyer in New York, was author of 
< 'i-iiitUui.s, and other plays, produced on the Ameri- 
can stage more than forty years ago. I believe 
Mr. Phillips was Assistant District Attorney of 
New York in 1864. Is he still living ? If not, 
what is the date of his death I R. I. 

B. B.TORNSKN. Several of the tales of this 

Norwegian author have been translated into 

s Mr. Bjornsen a Lutheran clero-ynmn 

s he resident in Norway ? E. INGLIS. ' 

TRIKST (ANTOXIUS), BISHOP OF GHENT. Any 

Jformation Delating to the public and family 

>tory of this prelate would be very acceptable to 

A. M. 

Ax OLD VIOLIN. I possess a violin with the 

ol owing . inscription inside, opposite the left sound 

Nicolaus Amatus Cremonien Hieronimy 

fih Anton,, 1709." Can any of your readers 

give me any information about this artist ? 

H. T. BEES. 



CHRISTOPHER USSHER, ARCHDEACON OF AR- 
MAGH. This divine, who was likewise Ulster 
King-of-Arms, was uncle of the celebrated Arch- 
bishop Ussher, and died, without issue, July 25, 
1597. The date of his appointment to the arch- 
deaconry of Armagh has not been given by Cotton 
in his Fasti Ecclesicv Hibernicce, iii. 45, nor by 
the Messrs. Cooper in their A thence Cantabrigienses, 
ii. 225. Can any reader of " N. & Q." help me to 
ascertain it 1 ABHBA. 

PETRARCH, &c. I have a copy of the Divina 
Commedia, with the commentary of Lombardi, 
published in five volumes at Padua, in 1822, 
" Dalla tipografia della Minerva." The editors, 
at the end of their preface, hint at editions in like 
form, &c., of Petrarch, Ariosto, and Tasso. Were 
these, or any one of them, ever published 1 

W. D. B. 

Reepham. 

REV. R. GIBSON. Can any of your readers in- 
form me where the Eev. Richard Gibson, an Epis- 
copalian minister, who was settled over a church 
on Richmond Island in 1637, and about 1640 
preached in Saco and Portsmouth, and returned 
to England about the latter date, took orders ; 
and if any of his correspondence or records of 
that church are in existence ? Robert Trelawney, 
Esq., of Plymouth, was the owner of the island 
S. P. MAYBERRY. 



and surrounding land. 



HERALDIC. What are the arms and name, if 
any, belonging to the following crest ? It has been 
used for three generations by a Smith. On a 
wreath arg. and gu. a dexter arm vambraced and 
embowed, holding a broken sword, all ppr. Motto, 
" Honestum quod est decet." Also I want the 
genealogy of Sir Thomas Richardson, Lord Chief 
Justice to Charles II., and his relationship with 
the Richardsons of Ferring, Sussex. The arms 
are similar Sable on a chief arg. three lions' heads 
erased of the field. THEA. 

" ABBERD." What is the meaning of this 
word I It is applied to some low-lying land 
skirting a small tributary of the river Marden. 
The earliest use of the name that I have seen is in 
an inventory of the possessions of the Abbey of 
Stanley, drawn up at the time of its dissolution. 
It is there spelled Abbard. Can it mean "au 
bord " (de la rive) ? W. C. P. 

ORRERY. Where can a good orrery or plane- 
tarium be seen ? CYRIL. 

EPITAPH ON A DAUGHTER OF THOMAS, SEVENTH 
EARL OF ORMONDE. Some time ago there was. 
given, in the Transactions of one of the English 
archaeological societies, the epitaph on the tomb 
of a daughter of Thomas, seventh Earl of Ormonde. 
A reference to the volume, or a copy of the epi- 



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taph, with a note of its locality, is desired. Th< 
three daughters of the earl were married to Bullen 
St. Leger, and Carey respectively. 

P. J. COGAN. 

WHERRIES. " Wherries full of produce pass 
along the streets." Thrift, by Smiles, p. 26. In 
what part of the United Kingdom is this word 
used to describe a land carriage 1 W. S. J. 

Carlton Hill. 

" JABBERWOCKY." In the nonsense poetry in 
Alicein Wonderland, called " Jabber wocky," there 
is a great likeness to some German poetry. It was 
commented on at the time in one of the magazines 
Could you tell me where to find it 1 ASHANTI. 

EXTRAORDINARY LONGEVITY. Mr. C. J. Pal- 
mer's Perlustration of Great Yarmouth, vol. ii 
p. 303, contains an account of a lady, Jane 
Vaughan, " who attained the extraordinary age of 
116 years." We are informed that she was born 
in 1700, and died May 26, 1816. Have the docu- 
ments on which the proof of this extraordinary 
longevity rests ever been carefully examined 1 

ANON. 

LIEUT.-GEN. SIR ALEX. GORDON. Can any 
reader of " N. & Q." favour me with a copy of the 
inscription from the monument, at Waterloo, to 
this brave officer 1 BRECHIN. 

THE HELMET IN HERALDRY. Does the form 
of helmet descend, or is it personal? For example, 
does the younger son of a baronet carry a baronet's 
helmet, or the younger son of a baron a baron's, 
or do they take only the helmet of an esquire 1 

B. E. S. 

EARL HOWE AND THE PENNS. I want to know 
the way in which Major-General Hon. Richard 
William Penn Curzon Howe (who succeeded lately 
to the title of Earl Howe, on the death of his 
brother, George Augustus, second earl) is related 
to the celebrated William Penn, of Pennsylvania. 

E. N. J. 



THE O'NEILLS OF FRANCE AND SPAIN. 

(5* S. iii. 407 ; iv. 130 ; v. 69.) 

As the person who made the inquiry in "N. & Q." 
respecting the connexion between the O'Neills of 
France and Spain, and the parent stock of Tyrone, 
I beg to thank PETRUS and MR. BONAPARTE- WYSE 
for their courtesy in forwarding replies. I regret, 
however, to say that from neither of the communi- 
cations can I clearly trace the line of descent. 

The reply sent by PETRUS does not give any 
particulars by which I could with safety attach 
the persons he names to any of the recognized 



branches of the family, and a letter which I for- 
warded him through the editor, asking for such, 
was returned by the Post Office, having failed to 
reach him. 

PETRUS says that he holds a copy of a Real De- 
xpacho (letter of nobility) given to a gentleman 
named John O'Neill, living at Mallorca, in Spain, 
which shows that he is the male representative of 
the house of the O'Neills of Tyrone. The genea- 
logy in this document he says is " traced up to one 
Terence, brother to one John O'Neill," who is 
stated to have died in Spain without issue, after 
having been received by the king with great dis- 
tinction ; and he makes the inquiry, "Who is this 
John O'Neill and his brother Terence 1 Can they 
be sons of the great Hugh ? " 

MR. BONAPARTE-WYSE is acquainted with this 
genealogy, and says it " regards exclusively John 
(Shane) O'Neill, third son of Hugh O'Neill, Earl 
of Tyrone," &c. But to do so it should be clearly 
shown that John had a brother named Terence or 
Turlagh. I have looked over some authorities be- 
sides those given, and have failed to find any such 
name amongst the sons of the Earl, legitimate or 
illegitimate. The five legitimate sons were named 
Hugh, Henry, John, Brian, and Con. Only one 
illegitimate son is mentioned, and he was another 
Con. It therefore appears very doubtful that this 
letter of nobility has any reference to the third 
son of the Earl. 

I think MR. BONAPARTE-WYSE has been misled 
by a paper in the Journal of the Kilkenny Archceo- 
logical Society for April, 1866, written by the 
respected M. de la Ponce, of Tours, which assumes 
that Earl Hugh had two natural sons, viz., " Tur- 
lough Brasilagh, (? the comma) O'Neill's son," and 
Con. The authorities given for the assumption 
are Fynes Moryson and the Annals of the Four 
Masters, p. 629, recte 659. On referring to them, 
I find that the latter means only a note by the 
editor, and that the former (Moryson) is the real 
authority. Giving an account of the Earl's army 
m horse and foot, he says, " Turlogh Brasil's sons, 
50 " (horse). Again, " Turlogh Brasil's sons, 200 " 
(foot). These words the note in the Four Masters, 
under heading " Forces of O'Neill in 1600," gives, 
n the first instance, as "Torlogh Brasilagh 
3'Neill's son," and, in second, "Torlogh Brasilagh's 
sons." But, in fact, neither authority would war- 
*ant the construction put upon it by M. de la 
^once, who evidently was led astray by the note 
n the Four Masters, as any one writing in a 
breign language might easily be. I may remark 
lere that Turlagh Brasilagh was not the base son 
)f the Earl, but the legitimate son of Felim Caech, 
he eldest son of Con Baccagh, Lord of Cinel Eog- 
lain, and first Earl of Tyrone. 

With respect to Don Felix, I would be glad to 
mow if his pedigree is traced up to Terence, the 
)rother of John, and through what links. At- 



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taching him to the Fews branch, as MR. BONA- 
PARTE- WYSE suggests, might be done, but only 
on very clear proofs. There is a descent given in 
O'Donovan's Four Masters of this branch showing 
that Art, second son of Sir Turlagh of the Fews, 
had a son named Turlagh, who married and died, 
apparently in Ireland, intestate, after whose death 
his son and heir Arthur took out letters of ad- 
ministration, and entered into possession of his 
property. Arthur married, and had two sons: (1) 
Neal and (2) Owen. Of the latter, no issue is 
given, but Neal had a son who was living in 1758. 
In this descent there is scarce any room, as I read 
it, for attaching Don Felix to Art, second son of 
Turlagh of the Fews. 

In the Gentleman's Magazine for 1791 there is 
noted the death, at Madrid, of Don Carlos Felix 
O'Neill, aged 110. He was held in great estima- 
tion by the Spanish king, was a lieut.-general, 
and Governor of the Havannah. He is stated, in 
the obituary notice, to have been a son of Sir 
Neal O'Neill, who died of wounds received at the 
Boyne, &c. But, if a son of his at all, he could 
only have been an illegitimate one, as Sir Neal 
left no male issue, and was succeeded in his title 
by his brother Daniel. Could the Don Felix of 
the Archbishop's memoir, and the above Don 
Carlos Felix, be identical ? 

I regret that neither of the replies alludes to the 
family ennobled under the title of Marquis de la 
Granja, and which still exists in Spain. I am 
very desirous to learn its descent, whether from 
Hugh, the illegitimate (?) son of John, third son 
of the Earl, who was slain at St. Flew in 1641, or 
from Major-General Hugh, of Clonmel and 
Limerick celebrity, or from whom else. 

As to the statement that the O'Neills of France 
have " very serious grounds to claim their descent 
from Hugh, Earl of Tyrone," I would beg to re- 
mark that, unless the grounds relied on are dif- 
ferent from those put forward by M. de la Ponce 
in April, 1866, they cannot be looked upon as 
satisfactory, the late Mr. Pinkerton having shown 
their value in the Journal of the Kilkenny Archaeo- 
logical Society for April, 1867. 

Of the Portuguese family I was not aware till I 
saw the communication of PETRUS, and I would 
gladly learn the particulars of its descent, as also 
where a copy of the Real Despacho and memoir 
by Archbishop MacMahon could be seen. 

I fully agree with MR. BONAPARTE- WYSE that 
the essential point " for all the members of a 
family to establish is that they are " scions of the 
true, recognized, and authentic stock." But to do 
this not only must their own descent from Patrick 
Hugh or John be clearly shown, but also that of 
Patrick, Hugh, or John themselves from the 
parent stock. TlR EOGHAIN. 



" COMING THROUGH THE RYE " (5 th S. v. 87', 
116.) MR. BLACK'S account of the origin of this 
song may seem irreconcilable with mine, but it is 
only because his authority, Stenhouse, withheld 
the information which I have supplemented. 
Stenhouse knew the original song well enough, 
but concealed it under the title of " the first set." 
He says : 

" The words and music of this song, beginning ' Gin 
a body meet a body,' are parodied from the first set, 
which was published as a single-sheet song before it was 
copied into the Museum" 

He leaves his readers to find out that the " first 
set" was the English song, "If a body meet a 
body," that it came from a London pantomime in 
December, 1795, and that the "parody" first 
appeared in vol. v. of Johnson's Scots Musical 
Museum in 1797. Stenhouse then goes on : 

"Mr. John Watlen, musician and music-seller, for- 
merly in Edinburgh, now in London, afterwards altered 
the first strain of the former tune a little, and published 
it with the new words." 

That is all posterior, and so is Gow's strathspey, 
called The Miller's Daughter. Johnson, the pub- 
lisher of the Museum, was as over-national as 
Stenhouse. He professed to give his subscribers 
genuine Scotch songs, and yet, within the first 
twenty in his first volume, are compositions by 
Purcell, Arne, Hook, Berg, and Battishill. He 
carried his collection through in the same style. 
This system has been attended with inconvenience 
to the Scotch themselves. For instance, when the 
late George Thompson wished for a better tune 
than Old Long Syne for Burns's new song, Auld 
Lang Syne, he selected the air of " Comin' thro' 
the rye," and adapted Burns's words to it. They 
are now too firmly united to be severed, but it 
cannot be doubted that Thompson would have 
chosen another tune, a genuine Scotch one, if he 
had known the history. 

A year or two ago I answered an inquiry 
about a Scotch song, and in a following number 
another of your correspondents supplemented my 
account with all the fable of Stenhouse which I 
had rejected. I did not write a second time ; but 
it should be understood by all literary inquirers 
whose aim is truth that Stenhouse is not to be 
trusted. For proof, refer to his name in the 
" Index of Subjects " in Popular Music of the 
Olden Time. WM. CHAPPELL. 

Of the Scottish version I know not any printed 
form earlier than what appears in James Johnson's 
Scots Musical Museum, vol. v. p. 430 (no date, 
but certainly of 1797), beginning : 
" Comin thro' the rye, poor body, 

Comin thro' the rye, 
She draigl't a' her petticoatie, 

Comin thro' the rye. 
Oh, Jenny 's a' weet, poor body, 

Jenny 's seldom dry, 
She draigl't a' her petticoatie, 
Comin thro' the rye." 



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This probably is all that remains of the old song 
The verses following are well known, 
" Gin a body meet a body, 
Comin' thro' the rye," &c. 

But I do not know of trustworthy evidence fasten 
ing these to Robert Burns, although the " secon 
set " in the Scots Musical Museum may owe some 
thing to his hand. His name occurs fifteen times in 
the index of that hundred-songed volume (publishec 
soon after the death of Burns), but not to this on 
lyric. It is printed among his works, in modern 
editions ; but that counts for nothing. The ryt 
certainly refers to the growing crop, not a district. 
MR. WM. CHAPPELL unhesitatingly pronounces 
the Museum copy to be an alteration of " a popula: 
song, which had been sung in a London panto 
mime/' viz. : 

" If a body meet a body going to the Fair, 
If a body kiss a body need a body care ] " 

He adds, " The pantomime came out at Christmas 
1795-6, and the alteration [for the Scots Musica 
Museum] seems to have been made about nine 
months of the publication." The entry of the 
" original song " (" If a body ") was on June 29, 
1796. The pantomime was J. C. Cross's Harlequin 
Mariner, music by J. Sanderson, and Mrs. Henley 
sang the song as Market Goody. I venture to 
believe it to have been impossible for Eobert Burns 
to have " altered " the song if it were written by 
Cross. For Eobert Burns died at Dumfries on 
July 21, 1796, and could not in his condition have 
seen the printed English song, entry of which had 
been made less than a month before. It is worth 
the search, and I feel assured we may find trace 
of the Scottish version of the song earlier than 
Christmas, 1795-6. Sanderson is not unlikely to 
have been acquainted with such a Scottish original, 
and Cross and he may have actually "altered" 
from the older version ; for certainly the Scots 
Musical Museum copy fills one of the earliest 
engraved pages of the volume, and was, by no 
means improbably, already on the pewter plate 
months before Burns died. The question involved 
can be answered more decidedly after a search is 
made. Much remains to be done regarding the 
originals of our popular songs. J. W. E. 

Molash, by Ashford, Kent. 

The original words of "Comin' thro' the 
rye" cannot be satisfactorily traced. There are 
many different versions of the song. The version 
which is now to be found in the Works of Burns 
is the one given in Johnson's Museum, which 
passed through the hands of Burns ; but the song 
itself, in some form or other, was known long 
before Burns. As regards the conjecture of SCOTO- 
AMERICUS, that by " rye " is meant a rivulet in 
Ayrshire, that is certainly a novel idea. A refer- 
ence to the song itself will, I think, settle the 
point. In Scotland, at the period when the rye 



has attained a good height, a deal of rain falls, and 
we know that, when the fair sex have to traverse a 
field by a path between standing rye when it is 
wet, the lower garments would naturally become 
very much saturated, or, as the song has it, 
" She draiglet a' her petticoatie, 
Coming through the rye." 

One can imagine also that, going with a fair 
companion through a rye-field, the temptation 
might, to many youthful minds, be strong to take 
a kiss from their sweetheart ; 'but one can scarcely 
believe such a thing occurring to any one in 
wading through a rivulet. G. W. NAPIER. 

Alderley Edge. 

SCQTO-AMERICUS asks if this is a field of grain 
or a rivulet in Ayrshire called the Eye. As the 
question comes from a far country, it ought to be 
attended to. I never heard before of the idea of 
its being a stream. I have seen many editions of 
Burns, and I have never seen rye spelt with a 
capital initial : this would seem to settle the 
matter. I should certainly vote for its being a 
field. THOMAS STRATTON. 

MR. CHAPPELL is wrong in supposing the 
quotation he gives has anything to do with the 
original version of "Comin' thro' the rye." 
Burns took an old and well-known song and 
slightly modified it, retaining the first verse un- 
altered : 

" Jeanie 's a' wat, puir body, 

Jeanie 's seldom dry; 
She draigelt a' her pettiecoatie, 
Comin' thro' the rye." 

"Eye" most certainly means rye, and not a 
river of that name. In the north of Perthshire 
ong ago they used to sing another old version, 
\ Comin' thro' the broom," &c. All the old ver- 
sions had more wit than decency. The best of 
Burns's songs, such as "Duncan Grey" and 
' Green grow the rashes, ! " are taken from 
well-known old Scotch songs or ballads. J. H. 

SNOWSTORMS (5 th S. iv. 510.) The snowstorm 

f 1614 is mentioned in many parish registers, and 

t would be interesting to be furnished with the 

xact copy of the entry in that of Wotton Gilbert, 

mentioned by MR. JAMES. The following is from. 

small pamphlet written by me : 

" The Durham parish registers record that, ' A poor 

oman was buryed the vi day of January, found dead 
n Gelegait moor, perished uppon a tempesteuous night 
f snowe w ch was the xviii day of Dec. 1613.' The 
reatness and duration of this storm may be gathered 
rom the fact that this poor woman was not found till 
ineteen days after she perished in the storm. 

" Stowe, 'in his annals, refers to the winter of 3613-14 
bus : ' The 17th of January began a great frost, with 
xtreme snow, which continued until the 14th of 
ebruary, and albeit the violence of the frost and snow 
ome days abated, yet it continued freezing and snowing 
much or little until the 7th of March.' Furthermore, 



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there are parish registers in Durham which record per- 
sons being lost in the snow in the years 1619, 1622, 1629. 

" The great storm of 1614 appears to have spread its 
thick covering of crystals over all parts of England, in 
the country and town, ' to the general losse of farmers, 
grasiers, husbandmen, and all sorts of people in the 
countrie, and no lesse hurtful to citizens.' However, if 
snowstorms in the city inconvenience the people, it is 
quite a different matter in the country, where the tra- 
veller, farmer, and shepherd are necessitated to traverse 
the extensive moors and cross th*e wild and exposed 
mountains, which proves a difficult matter indeed when 
all roads are blocked up, fences overblown, and the 
blinding snow, carried by cold winds, precludes the sight 
of any object which might otherwise prove a landmark 
to a lost wayfarer. We need not wonder, then, that 
several persons perished, and large numbers of cattle and 
sheep were lost, in this the greatest of snowstorms, which 
continued so many weeks, and was reported to have 
been eighteen feet deep in the country, with mountainous 
drifts never since or before witnessed. 

" It is thus recorded in the parish register of Youl- 
grave in Derbyshire: 'This year 1614-5, Jan. 16, began 
the greatest snow which ever fell uppon the earth, within 
man's memurye. It cover'd the earth five quarters deep 
uppon the playne. And for heapes or drifts of snow, 
they were very deep, so that passengers, both horse and 
foot, passed over gates, hedges, walles. It fell at ten 
eeverall tymes, and the last was the greatest, to the great 
admiration and fear of sill the land, lor it came from the 
foure parts of the world, so that all c'ntryes were full, 
yea, the south p'te as well as these mountaynes. It con- 
tinued by daily encreasing until the 12th day of March 
(without the sight of any earth, eyther uppon hilles or 
valleys), uppon w" 1 ' daye, being the Lordes day, it began 
to decrease.' 

" In Raine's Nole Book (the MS. of which is now lost) 
we find the following, referring to the neighbourhood of 
Barnard Castle-on-Tees : '1614. A great snow, the 
deepest ever known, did not yield until 26th Feb. [he 
then names nine persons of Barnard Castle and neigh- 
bourhood who were lost], it Avas past travelling, but in 
danger of life both for man and beast, by report was six 
yards deep in the country.' A deep snow forsooth, and 
well might mention be made of the loss of cattle by the 
'North-Country-Man,' in <a plaine familiar talke be- 
tweene a London shop-keeper ' and him on this storm, 
imprinted at London in 1G15,' and entitled, ' The Cold 
leare, a deepe snow, in which men and cattell have 
perished.' In the parish register of Whickham Dur- 
ham, it is stated that ' Michael Newton p'ished in the 
snowe 8 Feb., 1614 : Eleanor Wilson also ' ; and ' Isabel 
v i ' ? B ? r Man> these two Perished in the snowe the 
1614 ' Und Were n0t f Und tU1 nowe> 14th Feb> > 

" This great storm, which commenced on the 16th of 
January, began to decrease on the 12th of March 'and 
so hy little and little consumed arid wasted away, till the 
eight and twentyth day of May, for then all the heapes 
or dnfts of snow were consumed, except one uppon 
Kinder-Scout [Derbyshire], w" lay till Witson-week.' 

1 his great storm was a most disastrous one having 
cos many persons their lives, and destroyed innumerable 

orth- 



entry 



the 

' the 



above 



First, 



that 



sheep and continuance of cold wether'; third, f And 
many wanted fewell.' 'Otherwyse few were smothered 
in the fall or drowned in the passage. In regard, the 
floods of water were not great though many. The name 
of our Lord be prays'd ! The spring was so cold and so 
late that much cattell was in very great danger, and some 
dyed. There fell also ten lesse snowes in April, some a 
foote deep, some lesse, but continued long. Upon May- 
day in the morning, instead of fetching in flowers, the 
youthes brought in flakes of snow, w ch lay above a foote 
deep uppon the moores and mountaynes. All these 
aforesayde snowes vanished away and thaed with little 
or no rayne.' 

" Though snow was never more plentiful in England 
than at this time, the great storm was followed by a dry 
summer, at least in Derbyshire. The anticipated dearth 
came, and is thus recorded : ' 1615. A dry summer. 
There was no rayne fell uppon the earth from the 25th 
day of March until the 2nd day of May, and then there 
was a shower ; after which there fell none tyl] the 4th 
day of August. (After which tyme there was sufficient 
rayne uppon the earth) so that the greatest part of this 
land, especially the south p'ts were burnt upp, both corne 
and hay. An ordinary summer load of hay was at 2 li., 
and little or none to be gott for money. This p't of the 
peake was very sore burnt upp, only Lankeshyre and 
Cheshyre had rayne enough through all summer, and 
both corne and hay sufficient. There was verry little 
rayne fell the last winter, but snow only.' " 

I think I have heard that it is not lucky to take 
the dead body of a man lost in the snow into a 
room where there is a fire. 

W. M. EGGLESTONE. 

I am indebted to MR. SOLLY for some further 
information relative to the great fall of snow in 
1614-15. He says : 

" I would draw your attention to a little reference to 
the same fact which is given by Camden in his ' Regni 
Regis Jacobi I. Annalium apparatus 1615 Febr. Frigus 
intensum et Nix copiosissima : precipue die 12 et 14 nee 
gelu dissolutem ante 12.' Doubtless the fall varied in 
different parts of the country ; but it must have been 
very heavy, or Camden would not have recorded it. He 
begins all his years on the 1st of January (not on Lady 
Day), so I think, no doubt, that he refers to the same 
snow as your old MS. Baker does not mention that 
winter, though he gives an account of the hard winter 
of 1608, when the Thames was frozen over. This frost, 
he says, began in December and lasted till the following 
April." 

As such information is not easily obtained when 
wanted, I venture to again offer a suggestion I 
made some time since in " N. & Q." It was that 
its readers should send a short note of the state of 
the weather or roads at any particular time prior 
to 1750. Much light would by that means be 
thrown upon many matters of history or social 
life which are now but imperfectly understood. 
RALPH N. JAMES. 

Ashford, Kent. 

" THE BOOK," BY MRS. SERRES (5 th S. ii. 321 r 
409.) Is not MR. THOMS on the wrong track in 
endeavouring to connect Mrs. Serres with "The 
Book"? The following extract from The Leeds 
Mercury, April 11, 1812, points rather to Queen 
Caroline than Mrs. Serres: 



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" It is known to our readers that after an inquiry, mis- 
nomered the ' delicate Investigation,' which took place 
some years ago into the conduct of a certain illustrious 
Female, a Book was written on the subject of that in- 
quiry, of which Mr. Perceval, the then Chancellor to the 
Princess of Wales, and now Prime Minister to her Royal 
Consort, was the reputed author. This Book, or ' The 
Book,' as it has been emphatically called, though origi- 
nally intended to circulate widely both in England and 
on the Continent of Europe, was, it seems, for certain 
reasons of State suppressed ; but a few stray copies, some- 
how or other, found their way into Plebeian hands, and 
these copies have been bought up at an enormous price ; 
but, as Mr. Whitbread said the other night in the House 
of Commons, whether out of a public or a private fund 
is not known. 

" It happens that the history of a negotiation for one 
of the copies of this Publication has come to our know- 
ledge, and as we had the narrative from a party con- 
cerned in the transaction, we have no doubt but it is 
substantially correct. 

" The vender of the stray Book having intimated to a 
leading Member of Administration that a publication 
had fallen into his hands which he supposed Ministers 
would wish to possess, he was requested, after some little 
explanation, to attend the day following at the Council 
Chamber, when he might expect to be suitably remune- 
rated for the surrender of the publication. Punctual to 
his appointment, he was on the day and at the hour 
appointed shown into the apartment, where six or eight 
Honourable and Right Honourable Personages were 
assembled to conduct this 'delicate negotiation,' all of 
whose names have been mentioned to us, but which, as 
we write from memory, we shall not venture to repeat. 
The first question asked was : ' Well, Sir, have you got 
the book r 'No, Sir,' was the reply ; ' I have left it at 
the inn, in -my great coat.' 'In your great coat ! ' said 
a Noble Lord, in a strong Hibernian accent. ' Was ever 
anything so imprudent ; left such a book in your great 
coat, subject to the prying curiosity of the guests at 
these public receptacles ! Hasten back to your inn, 
with all possible speed, and bring the book hither with- 
out delay.' On his return he produced the book, taking 
care, however, to hold it with a firm grasp, and to place 
it at such a distance from the hands of the negotiators 
on the other part as to prevent a surprise, having fallen 
into the vulgar error that courtiers are not always honest 
men. 

" ' You appear, Sir,' said a Noble and Learned Lord, 
'to apprehend that force or artifice will be used to 
deprive you of the publication, of which you have in 
some way, no matter how, become possessed ; but upon 
my honour ' (and here his Lordship applied his hand to 
his breast, as is usual when honour is the pledge) ' you 
shall experience nothing in this chamber but the most 
correct treatment.' 

" Encouraged by this declaration, the book was given 
into his Lordship's hands, and after having undergone a 
general inspection, accompanied with a number of signi 
ficant looks and whispers, one of the members said : 
' Pray, Sir, what do you expect for this book 1 ' ' Four 
hundred pounds,' was the reply. ' Four hundred 
pounds ! ' cried a Right Hon. Secretary, in his facetious 
way. 'You are a Yorkshireman, Mr. D., are you not?' 
' I live in that county,' said Mr. D. ' I thought as much,' 
said the inquirer. ' This is an enormous sum to ask for 
one book ; you don't always fix such a price upon your 
publications, I presume]' 'Not always, Sir/ said the 
vender; 'but I could, by the publication of this work, 
make more money than I ask you for it ; or I could sell 
it to a London publisher for a larger sum.' ' Perhaps 
so,' was the reply ; ' but it is necessary to ask you a 



question or two more before we close this bargain. Have 
you yourself made, or have you allowed any other person 
to make, any copy or extracts from this publication?' 
' No,' said the bookseller, ' I have not.'' Have you 
suffered any person to read it since it came into your 
possession ] ' ' No.' ' Not even your wife ] ' ' No.' 
' Will you not dispose of it for a less sum than four 
hundred pounds ? ' ' It is not my intention, gentlemen,' 
said he, ' to take a less sum.' ' Here is the money then,' 
said one of the party ; ' you have made a very good day's 
work, Mr. D., and we wish you a good morning.' Mr. 
D. examined the notes, made his best bow, and retired." 

CHARLES A. FEDERER. 
Bradford. 

THEOPHILUS SWIFT (5 th S. v. 60.) Mention 
having been lately made of this gentleman, I send 
an exact transcript of some MS. notes in a copy of 
a privately printed volume, entitled The Touch- 
stone of Truth, &c., by Theophilus Swift, Esq., 
third ed., Dublin, 1811. The book is in my pos- 
session, and the notes are in the handwriting of, 
and signed by, the Rev. John Barrett, D.D., who 
was for many years a well-known Senior Fellow, 
and likewise the Vice-Provost, of Trinity College, 
Dublin. They are curious and worthy of preser- 
vation, and are as follows : 

" May 24, 1815. When Mr. T. S. paid his addresses 
to Miss D., his wife (from whom he had parted) was 
then living in England. Her death is alluded to in 
pp. 20 & 47 by the words ' Subsequent Period ' ; in 
p. 73, by 'an event which took place about ten months 
ago ' ; and in p. 141, by ' the period had arrived.' Great 
proof this of the morality and delicacy of both parties, 
who could contract these ties during the life-time of the 
third person. See also p. 37, where he uses the expres- 
sion, ' a late event.' 

" Theoph. Swift died Sep r , 1815 (see G. M., Oct r , 1815), 
and left two sons : 1. Deane Swift ; 2. Edm. L. Swift, his 
Ex r , & in the Jewel Office in the Tower. 

" He fought a duel with the D. of Richmond, in which 
he was severely wounded. The cause, a paragraph in a 
public paper, in defence of the Duke of York. Col. 
Lenox conceiving himself aggrieved by the Duke of 
York, fought a duel with him, and tke Duke had a 
narrow escape, the ball having grazed his cheek. Mr. 
Swift published a most bitter and exasperating pam- 
phlet. A duel ensued, in which Swift was shot thro' 
the body ; but his antagonist admitted that he had 
behaved with gallantry. It was supposed that thro r 
a desire of getting some preferment he had embarked in 
this Quixotic adventure ; but all he got was, that the 
Duke of York once sent his compliments of enquiry and 
condolence. 

"Theophilus Swift was author of The Gamblers: a 
Poem,4cto. ; Poetical Address to His Majesty, 4to. ; Letter 
to the, King on the Conduct of Col. Lenox, 1789 ; Letter 
to Wm. A. Brown on the Duel of York and Lenox, 1789; 
Vindication of Renwick Williams, commonly called The 
Monster, 1790. 

"Aug. 21, 1817. At a Meeting in London, on Mr, 
Owen's plan, Mr. Swift stated that he held an office 
under Government, which his father had held for 45- 
years." 

Dr. Barrett, I may add, was the editor of St. 
Matthew's Gospel in Greek, from a palimpsest 
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(Dublin, 1801), and died November 14, 1821. 
He was, undoubtedly, a strange character. 

ABHBA. 

HORNGARTH (5 th S. iv. 207, 378 ; v. 57.)-! am 
much obliged to you for inserting my query on 
this subject ; also" to those who have so kindly 
replied to it. They show clearly that ^our his- 
torians, Charlton and Young, were wrong in saying 
that the Horngarth was in Whitby Harbour. It 
could not be there, as the tide ebbs and flows 
regularly every day. Nor could it be any staith 
or wharf for shipping purposes. 

We certainly had, in the beginning of this cen- 
tury, four villages with township fields within ten 
miles of Whitby, namely, Hinderwell, Lythe, and 
Sandsend, in Mulgrave estate, and Rawpasture, in 
Fyling Dales ; but only Lyth and Sandsend are 
now used as township pastures, as of old. The 
other two have been enclosed and laid to the 
neighbouring farms. The pastures might be called 
Horngarth, as the place where the horned cattle 
were kept, or because the cows were called to the 
milking-place by the sound of a horn, morning and 
evening ; but they are not now known by that 
name, nor do I think the Horngarth of the abbot 
and those gentlemen who assisted in maintaining 
it was a cottagers' cow pasture, but the Buck 
Park, in Fyling Dales, where the abbot and his 
homagers kept deer till the dissolution of the 
monastery. King Henry I. and several of his 
successors hunted in it, and rewarded the abbots 
for the privilege, as we see by their several charters 
in the abbots' chartulary. That park might be 
called the Horngarth, because bucks are horned 
game, so distinguished from hares and winged 
game, which cannot be kept exclusively in a park 
by fencing. Bucks also cast their horns, which 
the keepers generally claim as their perquisites. 
The huntsman also uses a horn to control the 
hunt ; so that Horngarth may apply to the Buck 
Park as well as to a township pasture, but cer- 
tainly not to Whitby Harbour, or to any staith or 
wharf for shipping uses. The Buck Park was in 
Ramsdale, and mostly fenced in by a stone wall, 
much of which is still standing, but dilapidated. 
The beck and boggy places, then, would require 
wooden palings and hecks, which took much wood 
and labour every year to repair them ; hence 
disputes and litigations occurred. It is also 
probable that those who helped to maintain the 
park shared, too, in the sport, which even our 
sovereigns esteemed a great favour. 

Ramsdale Beck runs through the park. It 
enters by a fall of more than thirty feet, which 
forms a sufficient fence there ; but the exit is on 
the level, and is now fenced by a swinging heck, 
for it is yet the boundary fence, as when it was a 

P a , r , k - RICHARD CRAVEN. 

Victoria Square, Whitby. 



SAYING THE NICENE CREED (5 th S. v. 86.) 
The errors both in saying and singing the Creed 
are numerous and misleading. S. T. P. has pointed 
out the confusion of ideas in reference to the Holy 

host, " The Lord and Life-giver." But I think 
tie introduces confusion by his following sug- 

stion. The " emphasis " is intended to mark the 

stinction between e/c, " <m< of," " of the sub- 
stance," and the mere genitive inflection. The 
defect of the English language misleads those who 
do not know, or have forgotten, Greek. The 
capital in " Begotten " marks a separate but re- 
peated proposition. The comma after it is almost 
universally slurred. The careful wording of the 
whole statement of the doctrine of the eternal 
generation of the Son requires only clear enun- 
ciation of the terms for perfect apprehension. The 
second Advent with glory is an essential portion 
of the Faith. 

In the third division of the Creed the joint 
worship of the Trinity is propounded as a matter 
of faith. " Together," in saying or singing, ought 
to be connected with " worshipped and glorified " ; 
in the Greek, crvnTrpocrKvvovfAevov KOL o-vvSoa6- 
This also is almost universally disregarded. 

Let me protest here against the omission of one 
of the notes of the Church " Holiness " in our 
version of the universal creed. 

HERBERT RANDOLPH. 

Worthing. 

The unfortunate omission in most Prayer Books 
of the comma after " The Lord," is probably the 
cause of the mistake so often made by thoughtless 
readers. In the Latin version it is nearly always 
printed " Dominum, et vivificantem." " God of 
God" is read by many to show that the "of" is 
not a mere genitive, but represents the e/c and de 
of the Greek and Latin. T. F. R. 

Is S. T. P. aware that in this Creed framed at 
Nice, A.D. 325, it ended with the words, " I believe 
in the Holy Ghost" ? This is stated in the Prayer 
Book Interleaved, at p. 167, published, in 1865 
(the fourth edition in 1870), by the present Rev. 
Dr. Campion, of Queen's College, and the late 
Rev. W. J. Beaumont, of Trinity College, Cam- 
bridge. The later clauses were said to be added 
at the Council of Constantinople, A.D. 381, and 
at Toledo, A.D. 589. I think these two facts 
bear very much on the "Filioque." S. N. 

Hyde. 

" IS THERE ANYTHING NEW UNDER THE SUN ? " 

(5 th S. v. 26.) I shall take it as a favour if 
MR. RANDOLPH will kindly point out to me in 
what part of the Ethics I may find the division to 
which he refers. I know Aristotle fairly well, but 
have no recollection of having seen it. In fact, 
as, to the best of my knowledge, there is no such 
word as OVTLKOL I hardly see how the case is 



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possible. As to eTriflvju^TtKos, it only occurs 
onc% as far as I know, throughout the whole 
treatise, and then in the neuter, in opposition to 
<i'Ti/<6V, 1, 13, 2. It is^true Aristotle says, at Se 
7r/)aeis TOV dvOpioTTOV diro OV/JLOV KOI Tri6v/Jiia<;, 
"human actions are the result of passion and 
desire (or appetite) " ; but he does not lay these 
down as distinctive categories under which man- 
kind is separately classed, but as motive-powers 
acting conjointly in the production of human 
actions. Nor do I anywhere find that "in his 
system #v/zos is chiefly characteristic of the male 
sex ; eTfiffvfita chiefly exhibited in children." He 
merely says that children, with many others, act 
more from ri<9t'fua than Trpoou/aecris, which every 
one must admit. 

Further, he does not, as stated, make avSpfia 
" the virtue of Ovp.6s" but says it is the mean of 
<j>6(3os=fear, and Odppos = excessive daring 
/zeo-orr;? ecrrt Trept <f>6/3ovs KGU 6dpp7j. Nor does 
he go so far as to affirm that crM^poa-vvt] is " the 
virtue of cvt&'/uo/ 1 but as a mean respecting plea- 
sures /xeo-oT??? eo-ri irtpl ^Sovas rj crox^pocrvi/^, 
and says a man is called temperate from not feeling 
pain at the absence of pleasure, and abstaining from 
it when present. 

Into the protoplastic theory on OVJJLOS and 
7ri0iyzia I will not enter. Scripture is our only 
authority on all matters connected with the origin 
of our species, and, from the information to be 
gathered there, I find nothing in the shape of data 
on which to found an opinion one way or the other. 

It is worthy of remark that Plato divided the 
animal part of the soul into Ov[j.6s and C7ri0v[jiia, 
and, so far, exactly symbolizes with Aristotle. 

EDMUND TEW, M.A. 

MR. EANDOLPH might have gone much further 
and deeper. Not only mankind, but the whole 
universe, is made up of opposites and intermediates. 
In fact, one word will describe the entire pheno- 
mena, " variety. " Who wiii ever compass a book 
under that title 1 Another theme would occupy a 
very comprehensive and profound mind, " Things 
that must be," though I do not wish to be under- 
stood as a necessarian. J. W. JEVONS. 

Nottingham. 

ANTI-ABOLITION-OF-SLAVERY BROADSHEETS 
(5 th S. iv. 309.) On behalf of the library of the 
Cornell University, I should be glad to avail my- 
self of MR. BLACK'S kind offer. This library has 
a collection of works relating purely to slavery 
and anti-slavery, comprising 800 bound volumes 
and nearly 5,000 pamphlets, and including a great 
number of broadsheets, posters, and caricatures, 
as well as files of newspapers. It contains all the 
books treating of slavery from the private libraries 
of the late Samuel J. May (Syracuse, N.Y.), Gerrit 
Smith (Peterboro, N.Y.), and Richard D. Webb 
(Dublin), all noted opponents of slavery, together 



with many books and pamphlets, procured through 
the kind interest of William Lloyd Garrison, 
Wendell Phillips, and the late Senator Sumner. 
It has also received large accessions from the 
Southern States. WILLARD FISKE. 

Ithaca, U.S. 

CURIOUS ERRORS CAUSED BY THE HOMONYMY 
(5 th S. iv. 483.) I question whether either M. 
CAMUS or the authors cited by him have given any 
good reason to show that malheur and bonheur are 
not derived from mala hora and bona hora. It 
may, indeed, be questionable whether any of the 
philologists cited are of much authority on matters 
etymological. R. S. CHARNOCK. 

Junior Garrick. 

MINIATURE OF GAINSBOROUGH (5 th S. v. 29.) 
I do not know where the miniature asked for is ; 
but the subjoined notice may be of interest. 
There is a private collection of works by Gains- 
borough which belongs to Rev. W. Green, Rector 
of Steeple Barton, Oxon, and is now at the house 
of his son, Rev. W. E. Green, Avington Rectory, 
near Winchester. 

Portraits. 

1. Mrs. Gainsborough, his wife. 

2. Miss Gainsborough, his elder daughter. This is un- 
finished. 

3. Mrs. Fischer, his only other daughter. 

These are in excellent preservation, and are, I 
think, three quarters in length. 
Drawings. 

1. Large crayon drawing : girl on a donkey ; framed. 

2. Charity : the same subject as that of the painting, 
exhibited at the Kensington Museum; framed. 

3. 4, 5. Smaller drawings ; framed. 

Mr. Green is a relative of the Gainsboroughs, 
and they came into his family by the will of Miss 
Gainsborough, the elder daughter, and have been 
in possession ever since her decease. 

ED. MARSHALL. 

THE TOOTHACHE ASCRIBED TO THE GNAWING 
OF A WORM (5 th S. v. 24.) The idea which asso- 
ciates the toothache with the gnawing of a worm 
used to prevail much further south than the 
Orkney Islands. In my native county of Aber- 
deen, the home of many old superstitions and 
customs not met with in any other part of the 
island, the toothache was, thirty years ago, and 
I have no doubt in many parts is still, designated 
"the worm." I never heard any one seriously 
allege that the decay of the tooth and the gnawing 
pain by which it is so frequently accompanied 
were produced by a worm, but the existence of 
the term furnishes pretty strong presumptive 
evidence that such a belief did prevail in bygone 
ages. ALEXANDER PATERSON. 

Barnsley. 

SOUND IN FOGS (5 th S. v. 7.) That the signal 
guns were not heard by those in the boat, though 



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they were close to the ship, is curious, but the 
boat might have been much more distant from the 
ship when the guns were firing than when the tog 
cleared. When Gay-Lussac ascended 23,000 feet, 
sound was enfeebled from the rarefication of the 
atmosphere. All sounds are transmitted with 
equal velocity, be they high or low, loud or gentle, 
for sounds of music heard at a distance do not 
change their intervals. Density of medium, when 
there" is continuity, appears to aid sound, for if 
you scratch with a pin at one end of a felled pine- 
tree, though inaudible to you, it will be audible if 
a person place his ear at the other end, be the tree 
as long as it may. Franklin, having placed his 
head under water, heard distinctly two stones 
struck together at the distance of half a mile. 
Some philosophers have said that fish cannot 
hear. In a medium that conveys sound thus, is it 
likely ? If sound depends on vibration, the cessa- 
tion of sound in a fog indicates non-vibration, and 
shows that the air is not in a state denser than 
ordinary, but less dense, continuity being inter- 
rupted both to the eye and to the ear. If vibra- 
tions are too slow, they convey no sound to the 
ear ; if they are too rapid, they equally escape our 
senses. " Est modus in rebus " verily is not mis- 
placed on " this isthmus of a middle state." 

C. A. WARD. 

"LENDING BOXES" (5 th S. iv. 512), so called, 
are kept in this parish by voluntary contributions 
made annually, and their management and dis- 
posal entrusted to a lady who has, for a long time 
past, undertaken the charge. Similar ones were 
in use in the adjoining parish of Adderbury when 
I resided there some years back. 

C. DUFFELL FAULKNER. 

Deddington, Oxfordshire. 

"TiiE UNCLAIMED DAUGHTER," &c. (5 th S. 
iv. 512.) I heard, a considerable time ago, that 
the young lady was subsequently owned and re- 
stored. I regret that I am not able to recollect 
my authority (which was verbal), but I considered 
it reliable at the time. T. W. WEBB. 

^ A book was published, about the time MR. 
FENNELL mentions, with the title of the Unclaimed 
Daughter. I had the opportunity of meeting the 
young lady in question on more than one occasion. 
She went by the name of Anna Stanhope, and not 
Lucy Melville. Her protectress was a Miss Ed- 
kins ; and it was generally supposed by those who 
knew her, and saw Miss Stanhope, that the " af- 
fecting history " was the result of a very romantic 
imagination on Miss Edkins's part. Miss Stan- 
hope was very little like a heroine of romance 
Miss Edkins died several years ago, and the "un- 
claimed daughter," after her death, was received 
(as I am informed) into some charitable institu- 
tlon - E. D. S. 



' EUSSIAN-LIKE APPAREL " (5 th S. v. 27.) 
In D. C. E.'s communication with respect to cer- 
iain orders of the Charterhouse, the above expres- 
ion occurs. Can it be that it is a misprint for 
uffian-like ? If not, what is its origin ? 

C. E. H. C. H. 

ETYMOLOGY OF "GOLDEN" (5 th S. v. 46.) 
3k>ld, Golden, found in proper names, are usually 
corrupted from wald. Conf. Goldhanger (Essex) 
= wald-ing (G. wold-ung}-, and the surnames 
G^oldie, Waldie, Goldrun, Waldron. 

E. S. CHARNOCK. 

Junior Garrick. 

THE DE BRADEFORDES AXD BAMBURGH CASTLE 
5 th S. v. 28.) The words which your correspondent 
quotes, " ad wardani et ad cornagium," refer to 
the two ancient duties of Castle ward and Cornage, 
or nontgeld ; the latter is peculiar to the four 
northern counties, Northumberland, Cumberland, 
Durham, and Westmoreland. 

Castle icard, in Northumberland, was a contribu- 
tion towards the maintenance and defence of the 
royal castles of Baniburgh and Newcastle. It was 
rendered at first by personal service, but was 
afterwards commuted for a sum of money. Curi- 
ously enough, while the castle ward of Newcastle 
in the reign of Henry III.) amounted to 33?., that 
of Bamburgh amounted only to five marks (3Z. 35.). 
This is explained by Hodgson, the historian, as 
possibly arising from the fact that the castle of 
Bamburgh was in existence before the Conquest, 
when money was of much higher value. 

Cornage, or nontgeld (under which name it is 
sometimes met with), seems to have been origin- 
ally a tribute of horned beasts (cornuagium), but, 
like castle ward, was early commuted for a money 
payment : 

" In the Pipe Rolls of Cumberland and Westmoreland 
it is called Geldum animalium, and in the Durham Pipe 
Roll of the 31st of Henry I. we meet with the expression 
cornagium animalium. In Northumberland the term 
cornagium only occurs, without any adjunct." See 
Hodgson, History of Northumberland, part i. chap. vii. 
pp. '258-63. 

Bradford lies about four miles to the west of 
Bamburgh, and the remains of the manor house 
are still in existence. The De Bradefordes would 
pay their contributions of cornage and castle ward 
to the sheriff, who had charge of Bamburgh Castle 
for the Crown. H. F. Bo YD. 

EASTER ox APRIL 16 (5 th S. v. 129.) In an 
essay on almanacs in the January number of the 
New Quarterly^ I briefly noticed C. H.'s difficulty. 
The definition in the Prayer Book, as De Morgan 
points out in the Book of Almanacs, is wrong in 
two points. It puts the day of full moon for the 
fourteenth day, and the moon of the heavens for 
the calendar moon. This is the true statement : 
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teenth day of the calendar moon which happens 
upon, or next after, the 21st of March." 

C. H. has of course taken the moon of th 
heavens, and is, therefore, two days wrong. The 
new moon of the Gregorian calendar will fall on 
March 27, and, therefore, the fourteenth day o 
the moon will be April 9 ; and, as that is a Sun 
day, Easter Day must be the Sunday after. 

MORTIMER COLLINS. 

Knowl Hill, Berks. 

C. H. may perhaps find a solution of his diffi 
culty by referring to the note at the end of th( 
table of the Movable Feasts, on the subject of the 
changes consequent on the bissextile or leap year 
such as the present. The note in question should 
be compared with, and elucidated by, the rule 
previously given, ou Easter Day. 

E. 0. HARINGTON. 

The Close, Exeter. 

GEORGE BUTLER OF BALLYRAGGET (5 th S. v, 
9, 134.) Lord Vaux represents this family, and 
the pedigree will be found in Burke's Peerag. 
under that title. GORT. 

THE CHARTERHOUSE: BEAVORS (5 th S. v. 27, 
56, 97.) Beevers are simply the biberes of the 
Cistercian Kule, the Sempringham Kule, the Bene- 
dictine Rule, dating from that of St. Gall, and 
the Cluniac Eule. It was "potus post Nonam 
in sestivo tempore." Littleton gives, " Bever, or 
drinking between meals." Bailey says, " A small 
collation between dinner and supper." 

"The labouring man will take his resfc long in the 
morning; then must he have his breakfast: at noon he 
must have his sleeping time, then his bever in the after- 
noon." Pilkington's Works, p. 446. 

Beevers, a draught of beer with a small commons 
of bread and cheese, were regularly issued at Win- 
chester at " beever time " in the cloister time of the 
long half about 4 P.M. 

MACKENZIE E. C. WALCOTT. 

When I was at Westminster, the small loaves of 
bread which we ate in the college hall were always 
called beavers. " Fetch me a beaver " was equi- 
valent to " Fetch me a roll of bread." 

G. 0. E. 

JUSTIFIABLE HOMICIDE, OR MANSLAUGHTER? 
(5 th S. iv. 27, 76, 116, 192, 329, 455.) I congra- 
tulate W. S. upon his perception of the real point 
at issue in this discussion. Of course if the bur- 
glary be not consummated by the entry of the thief, 
but be still, after such entry, an incomplete offence, 
my whole argument falls to the ground. But let 
us look at the definition of burglary. Sir Edward 
Coke's definition (adopted by Blackstone and the 
modern text-writers) is " by night breaking and 
entering into a mansion house, with intent to 
commit a felony" (3 Inst., 63 ; 4 Bl Com., 224 ; 



4 Steph. Com., 6th ed., 196 ; Archbold, Grim. PI 
and Emd., 16th ed., 450). The being in the 
house (even with a felonious intent), or the therein 
committing a felony, appears, I submit, by the 
very definition, to be no part of the burglary. The 
moment the criminal has got any part of his per- 
son, or even any instrument held in his hand (if 
he intend such instrument to assist him in perpe- 
trating a felony), inside the house, that instant 
(supposing the felonious intent to exist) the crime 
is complete, and he may be indicted and punished 
for a burglary (1 Hale, P. C., 555 ; Post., 108 ; 
1 Hawk., P. C., c. 38, 11, 12 ; R. v. Bailey, 
jR. & E., 341). After entrance inside there is no 
" breaking and entering," and it is precisely the 
"breaking and entering" which constitutes the 
burglary. What the offender does afterwards may 
indeed be evidence of the intent with which he 
broke and entered, but it does not make the 
breaking and entering criminal ; the entrance be- 
came criminal because of the intent, not because 
of the act. The " forcible and atrocious crime " is 
consummated, and therefore there can be no " pre- 
vention " of it. But I am ashamed to labour 
so obvious a point. MR. BOULGER'S communica- 
tion does not appear to me to call for any special 
reply. I have not, however (he will please note), 
" conceded " anything to him. If I had thought 
that he was only maintaining a speculation as to 
the verdict of a jury in a particular case, I should 
not have troubled " N. & Q." with a reply : the 
verdicts of juries are incomprehensible. But I 
imagined that your correspondent really wanted 
to know how the law stood. My opinion on that 
head is unchanged, viz., that the act is (upon prin- 
ciple, and in the absence of authority) not justifi- 
able homicide, that it is certainly not manslaughter, 
and that therefore it is most probably murder. 
By the way, as a parting piece of information, I 
may tell MR. BOULGER that murder is not the 
' greatest crime in the law book " (whatever that 
may mean). MIDDLE TEMPLAR. 

Much has been written on this subject by your 
various correspondents, but there is one form of 
lomicide to which no one has adverted, and 
which seems to me to require some explanation. 
In an article on " Ladies and Freemasonry," in 
5 th S. iv. 103, it is stated that a lady was once con- 
cealed in -a closet, from which she could see what 
was passing in a Masonic lodge. She was, how- 
ever, discovered, and the narrative goes on to say, 
* in the first paroxysm of rage and alarm, it was 
said her death was resolved upon," &c. The rnat- 
;er, however, was compromised. It is a popular 
saying that a person, with a drawn sword, always 
stands at the door of a lodge, in order to prevent 
any one but a Mason from entering. I would ask, in 
ill seriousness, if the lady had been put to death 
n the first paroxysm of rage and alarm, would 



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it have "been a case of justifiable homicide ? Is 
there any law that would justify the perpetrator 
in this summary punishment 1 

H. E. WILKINSON. 
Anerley, S.E. 

MUSICAL REVENGE : " HUDIBRAS " (5 th S. iii. 
325, 393, 456, 519 ; iv. 277, 295 ; v. 32.) I am 
much struck by a passage in MR. STEPHENS'S 
communication (p. 296) : " Dr. Johnson was for 
once in error in assuming that the popularity of 
Hudibras waned after the Restoration." As the 
king had "his own again" in 1660, and the im- 
primatur for printing Hudibras is dated Nov. 11, 
1662, I fail to see how Dr. Johnson, or any one 
else, could have formed such an astonishing 
opinion. W. WHISTON. 

HERALDIC (5 th S. v. 48.) No lady, married or 
not, should use a motto under her lozenge, however 
many the family may have. P. P. 

SIR HENRY WOTTON (5 th S. v. 67.) I think 
there can be no doubt that the " useful apothegm. 
' Disputandi pruritus, Ecclesiarum scabies/ " was 
known long before Wotton's time. 

Your correspondent G. B. B. does not mention. 
that Sir H. Wotton had used it before. 

In the Reliquiae Wottoniance (3rd ed., 1672), 
p. 124, "A Panegyrick to King Charles," the 
phrase occurs. I quote from the translation, the 
original being " Written in Latin by Sir H. 
Wotton a little before his death " : 

"There were hatched abroad some years agone, or 
perhaps raked up out of Antiquity, certain Controversies 
about hi<rh points of the Creed. Your Majesty with 
most laudable temper by Proclamation suppressed on 
both sides all manner of debates. Others may think 
what pleaseth them ; in my opinion (if I may have 
pardon for the phrase) Disputandi Pruritus est Ecclesi- 
arum Scabies (the itch of disputing will prove the scab of 
Churches)." 

That it was a saying in Wotton's time is self- 
evident. He says, " If I may have pardon for the 
phrase," or, in the original, " Si verbo sit venia." 

If through the medium of " N. & Q." the author 
can be traced, I shall feel much gratified 

G. W. NAPIER. 
Alderley Edge. 



NOTES ON BOOKS, &c. 

Aft. Bartholomew's Hospital Reports. Edited bj 

James Andrew, M.D., and Thomas Smith 

F.R.C.S. Vol. XI. (Smith, Elder & Co.) 

IN the present volume of these Reports, edited b} 

the eminent physician and surgeon above named 

there is an essay, by Dr. Norman Moore, whicl' 

will be of interest to many readers of " N. & O.' 

t is "On the History of Medicine in Ireland 

founded on an Examination of some MSS. in the 

British Museum/'' These MSS. are full of verj 



curious matter, whether relating, as some do, to 
the history of medicine generally, or to that of 
medicine in Ireland particularly. We must 
refer our readers to the essay itself for the details 
of Dr. Moore's researches in foreign as well as 
lome libraries, among Latin and Irish manuscripts, 
the latter being occasionally translations of 
:he former. Now and then, the learned leech of 
:he Green Isle makes a slip, or adopts that of the 
original MS. For instance, the translator of the 
Lilium Medicince, the author of which was a 
Frenchman, Bernardus de Gordon, says, "Dubhairt 
Oracius Deceis repetita placebunt edhon is blasta 
ni ur na friotal fa dheich," which Dr. Moore, who 
gives a very liberal allowance of Irish text, translates, 
" Horace says, ' Decies repetita placebunt,' that is, 
tasty is the thing that is told ten times," without 
noticing the error in the quotation ("placebunt" for 
"placebit") from Horace, from whose name the aspi- 
rate seems to have been as readily dropped in Ire- 
land as if that western Britain were within hearing 
of Bow Bells. There is a slip in a quotation from 
Seneca, which is much graver than the one from 
Horace, " Nunquam nimis dicitur quod satis non 
dicitur." Dr. Moore translates the Irish render- 
ing of the above, " That is not said too much 
that is not said enough " ; but for the second 
" dicitur " we must read discitur, and then we 
have, "The matter is never too often repeated 
which is never sufficiently learned." Among early 
Irish surgical practitioners perhaps the most illus- 
trious was Diancecht, who, three thousand and as 
many hundred years after the Creation, was ac- 
counted the pagan god of health and healing ; and, 
even in legal matters, " his judgments were first." 
A chief, aspiring to be a king, named Nuadhat, 
won a victory in which he lost his hand. Such 
defect excluded him from the crown, but Diancecht 
"cured the wound, and fitted on a silver hand. 
Diancecht's result was brilliant, but his method 
must have been slow, for the king was seven years 
under treatment." We must here remark that the 
physical defect, which was a bar to the kingly 
office, was not in reality cured, and that Dr. 
Moore is too generous in describing the result 
brought about by his illustrious predecessor as 
" brilliant." Passing to other subjects, we come 
upon a MS. of 1482, on which is inscribed " a 
prayer for Gerald the Earl, Lord Justice of Ire- 
land, who bought this book for twenty cows." The 
book was highly valued by a later possessor, who 
wrote upon a blank leaf, ""Charles Hickey is the 
true possessor of this book, and, if it be lost, I 

'ay God return it home again, 1680." In the 
ilium, which is divided and subdivided according 
to the parts of the flower, there is an account of 
the incubus, or, as we should say, nightmare, with 
this cure for it : 

" First of all, the person to whom this is wont to come, 
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when he hears him speaking like crying, and who will 
rub his feet and his hands strongly, and will sprinkle his 
face with rose water, and will give an emetic and dian- 
thus, with musk or dicembra, and in such case it may be 
well said, that there is always some Pylades who will 
cure Orestes." 

The writer accounts epilepsy as rarely curable : 
"And I say this so that when patients come to you 
you may avoid disgracing yourselves by empty and un- 
true promises of curing epilepsy, because every epilepsy 
is eradicated with great difficulty, if at all." 

There are other samples of Bernardus's spirit. 
Dr. Moore thinks that his " observant glance was 
sometimes obscured by the hypotheses engrained 
in his mind." John of Gaddesden, an Englishman, 
contemporary with Bernardus, has some truths, 
which are now truisms. Among them are his 
rules for health : 

"If thou wishest to be sound, and if thou wishest to 
have health, Raise from thyself the heavy care, and be- 
lieve that it is idle for the to wax wroth ; And spare 
the wine and leave the supper ; and it is not idle for 
thee To arise after meat, and to shun mid-day sleep." 

Alas ! " the heavy care," black as ever, still 
sits post equitem on his ride through life. It is 
not hard work that ever killed any man, but the 
anxieties often attending it, the heavy care which 
man cannot raise from off his breast. 

Perhaps as singular a trait as may be found in 
this interesting essay is the one which refers to 
the Mac Duinnthsliebhes : " About the year 1200 
they settled in the district now called the barony 
of Kilmacrenan, and became the hereditary 
physicians, of the O'Donnells, chiefs of TyrconnelL 
About ten years ago, when in Kilmacrenan, I 
found that some of the Mac Duinnthsliebhes were 
still living there." Hereditary chiefs have passed 
away, victims, may it be said ? of the system of 
hereditary physicians ! 

Dr. Moore remarks that some of the mediaeval 
physicians puzzled themselves with singular ques- 
tions. One discussed how it is that a man will live 
longer on bad food than on no food at all. " It is 
quite contrary to logic," he thinks ; " but yet is 
asserted on good authority to have been proved 
experimentally." This reminds us of the Greek 
fable of early school-days, of the groom who tried 
to keep a horse alive without food, and who was on 
the point of succeeding just as the perverse animal 
died. 

A biographical sketch of the late Dr. Peter Mere 
Latham, by Sir Thomas Watson, Bart., is written 
in true sympathetic spirit. It concludes with these 
words : " He had outlived nearly all his contem- 
poraries.' Two yet remain . . . Sir John Coleridge 
is one of these. Both of us, indeed, are now stranded 
upon the fast narrowing sands of time." Only one 
now remains. Since the above was written Sir 
John Coleridge has passed the barrier which 
divides the two great mysteries the Here and the 
Hereafter. 



AUTHORS AND QUOTATIONS WANTED (5 th S. v. 118.) 
" The frost looked forth one still clear night." 

Originally from a volume called Beautiful Poetry, 
compiled by Mrs. Coxe. Printed anonymously in the 
ust published Philips's Selection of Poetry for Stan- 
dards IV., V., VI., compiled by S. W., edited by Canon 
Cromwell, p. 48. C. F. S. WAKREN, M.A. 

Bexhill. 

Is the first line of a poem, entitled The Frost, by Miss 
Gould. 

HETTY F. 

la this not an indistinct remembrance of 
" The fox went forth, one moonshiny night, 

And he prayed to the moon to give him good light " 1 
If so. one version of the so-called Cornish song may be 
found, as The Fox's Foraging Tour, in " N. & Q.," 1 st S. 
x. 371. Another and shorter version occurs in J. 0. 
Halliwell-Phillipps's Nursery Rhymes of England, cxxxiii. 
p. 84. I have often heard the song in Yorkshire. 

J. W. E. 

Molash, by Ashford, Kent. 

" And would'st thou reach, rash scholar mine, 

Love's high unruffled state ] 
Awake ! thy easy dreams resign, 
First learn thee how to hate." 

Dr. J. H. Newman, Verses, No. xxi. 
" And what I am beheld again 

What is, and no man understands ; 
And out of darkness came the hands 
That reach thro' nature, moulding men." 

In Memoriam, sec. cxxiv. ed. 1870. 
WILLIAM TYAS. 

" Be good, sweet maid, and let who will be clever," &c. 
Charles Kingsley, A Farewell; Poems, Macmillan, 
1872, p. 216. T. W. C. 

Printed also in Mrs. Alexander's Sunday Poetry, 
No. ciii. See also Two Years Ago, p. 353. 

C.'F. S. WARREN, M.A. 

" Angels, ever bright and fair." 

They are from " Theodora," a very early production of 
Handel's, if not his first. FREDK. RULE. 

The words are, I think, by Gay. F. 

" I cannot, Lord, thy purpose see." 

Ascribed to Sir John Bowring. Two verses (1 the whole 
poem) will be found in the well-known little book, Gems 
of Sacred Poetry (Religious Tract Society), last nrticle. 

HERMENTRUDE. 

" They dreamt not of a perishable home," 
begins the third of William Wordsworth's three " Eccle- 
siastical Sonnets " devoted to description of the inside 
of King's College Chapel, Cambridge. These three are 
numbered 33, 34, b5, in the third part, published in 
1822, the advertisement being dated January 24. See 
vol. iv. p. 308, edit. 1846, Poetical Works of W. Words- 
worth. J. W. E. 
Molash, by Ashford, Kent. 

" Forgive, blest shade." 

An epitaph in Brading Churchyard, Isle of Wight ; said 
to be by the Rev. John Gill, curate of Newchurch. 

C. F. S. WARREN, M.A. 
The words are set to music by Dr. Callcott. 

FitEDK. RULE. 

H is given in Legh Richmond's Annals of the Poor, 
" The Young Cottager," p. 242, edit. 1828. 

H. BOWER. 
The lines will be found in Sew Selection of Hymns for 



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[5 th S. V. FEB. 19, 76. 



the Use of Schools, published by William Oliphant, Edin- 
burgh. They were composed in September, "* 

I have seen this epitaph attributed to Mrs. Anne 
Steele HEBMBKTBUDB. 

It may be found in No. 6 of Norello's Musical^Times. 

Molash, by Ashford, Kent. 

The Day of the Funeral, of the Duke of Wellington, 
was by the present Dean of Chichester, the Very Rev. 
J. W. Burgon, B.D. c - p - E - 

MRS. SWIFTS, the widow of our late correspondent, 
whose loss is much regretted, writes: "I wish to 
correct an error in the article which you were kind 
enough to insert in ' N. & Q.' relating to my dear hus- 
band" the late Edmund Lenthall Swifte. It was this : I 
stated that his grandfather, Deane Swifte, of Castle 
llickard, county Meath, and of Worcester, was the 
nephew of the Dean of St. Patrick's. Xot so : they were 
cousins." 

A DESCENPAKT OF THE FAMILY OF JOAN OF AUG. The 
following cutting from the Standard of the 14th inst. is 
worth preserving in "X. & Q.": "The death of M. 
Renandeau d'Arc, a descendant of the Joan of Arc 
family, is announced from Rouen. He was run over by 
a cart, and received injuries from which he expired after 
a few days' suffering. ' He had long been in bad health, 
and wen"t to Rouen to follow a special medical treat- 
ment. The fatal accident occurred in the Rue Jeanne 
d'Arc. The deceased was chief engineer to the town of 
Gien." See 1 st S. vii. 295; and Lower's Patronymica 
Uritannica, under " Lys." H. S. G. 

RINGING THE CURFEW. The Launceston Town Council 
has resolved to discontinue this old custom, for which 
two guineas annually used to be paid. 



to 

ON all communications should be written the name and 
address of the sender, not necessarily for publication, but 
as a guarantee of good faith. 

ANTIQUUS. Mr. Thorns, in his Longevity of Man, does 
not assume "any limit of human life," and furnishes 
several cases where it has been extended beyond the 
century, as in the instance of Mr. Liming, who lived 
103 years, one month, and nine days. Mr. Thoms's 
" Canon on Centenarianism " was published in the Times 
of April '2, 1875, and is as follows :" The age of an 
individual is a fact ; and, like all other facts, to be 
proved, not inferred ; to be established by evidence, not 
accepted on the mere assertion of the individual or the 
belief of his fiiends ; not deduced from his physical con- 
dition if living, or from his autopsy if dead ; but proved 
by the register of his birth or baptism or some other 
authentic record ; and in proportion as the age claimed 
is exceptionally extreme, ought the proof of it to be ex- 
ceptionally strong, clear, and irrefragable." 

BUULGER. " Moliere quelquefois corisultait 




author of La Mf'lromanie, refers was Laforest. To her 
the trench poej read his comic scenes, in order to juoVe 
)f the effect they might have on the class of public to 
winch she belonged. We are not aware of any similar 
tradition concerning Montaigne, whose essays would 
hardly be understood by an old servant 



A. E. D. Tickell (1686-1740) wrote a poem on " Ken- 
sington Gardens " : 

" Each walk with robes of various dyes bespread 
Seems, from afar, a moving tulip-bed, 
Where rich brocades and glossy damasks grow, 
And chintz, the rival of the showery bow." 

S. GROWTHS R. Sholto and Reuben Percy, Brothers of 
the Benedictine Monastery of Mount Benger, were the 
assumed names of Thomas Byerley and Joseph Clinton 
Robertson, the compilers of the Percy Anecdotes. See 
"$. &Q.,"l st S. vii. 214. 

C. H. P. asks: "What is the best method to be 
adopted in cataloguing a large library 1 " Prepaid letters 
will be forwarded. 

P. B. D. The 31st of December, 1799, was not the 
last day of the last year of the eighteenth century, but 
that day of the December of 1800 was ; the coincidence,, 
therefore, does not exist. 

GERMANICUS. See the Annals of Tacitus. 

EDMUND TEW. Xext week. 

C. H. P. With pleasure. 

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CONTENTS. N 113. 

NOTES : Captain Medwin, 161 Provoking Misprints Fairy 
Pipes, 162 A List of English Words Used by French Writers, 
and Missing in Littre's Dictionnaire, 163 Mispronunciation 
of Ancient Proper Names, 164 Bucolic Spells -Snuff, 165 
Tennyson's " Enoch Arden " " La proprigtg c'est le vol" 
Symbolical Colours: Colour Rhymes Mother-in-Law's 
Breath" Marmalade," 166. 

QUERIES : Aristotle and Orphale Various Sir E. For- 
tescue Value of Land temp. Henry VIII. G. Sintzenick 
R. Hodgson, 1577 The Rev. H. S. Cotton, 167 "There are 
elms and elms" Rieux The History of Pepys's "Diary" 
".Not against, but beyond reason" W. Parkinson Titus 
Gates Stephen Kemble Rev. R. Hunter " Tinkers' News,' 
168 The Office of Poet to the City of London Bell- Founders 
of Northamptonshire-" Ne facias de caseo," &c. Rollrick 
or Rollright Stones G. Herbert : G. Wither : F. Quarles 
" Othello "The Woking Grave Plant, 169. 

REPLIES : Irish Version of the New Testament, 169 The 
Nicene Creed H(fy, 170 The Order of the Camaldolites 
" Concerning snakes in Iceland," 172" Liber Veritatis " 
"Occamy," 173 Schiba Need Fire Cabinet Councils 
" The Present State of London " Pre-Reformation Church 
Plate "The Ancient Mariner," 174 "Tria miranda ! 
Omnes Christiani," Ac. Edgar Allan Poe Old School Book 
Bridges's " Northamptonshire " Privileges of Regiments 
"Commentarie upon the Epistle to the Galatians," 175 
Weather Holes Pastoral Staff at Dol "The Curse of Kirk- 
stall Abbey" Comets -Edward VI. as a Founder, 176-The 
Ball- Flower Ornament R. Brandon, the Executioner of 
Charles I. " Last of the Stuarts " Louise Lateau Heraldic 
Bath Abbey, 177" Old maids leading apes in hell "Coin 
Impressions on Bells Rev. Dr. Lambe, 178. 

Notes on Books, &c. 



CAPTAIN MEDWIN. 

This gentleman made the acquaintance of Lord 
Byron at Pisa in 1821, and in the year of Lord 
Byron's death (1824) he published a book, en- 
titled 

" Conversations of Lord Byron, noted during a Resi- 
dence with his Lordship at Pisa, in the Years 1821 and 
1822. By Thomas Medwin, Esq., of the 24th Light 
Dragoons, Author of Ahasuerus the Wanderer." 

Accident having thrown into my way the fol- 
lowing information which I think will be found 
interesting concerning Captain Medwin's subse- 
quent career, I venture to send it to " N. & Q." 

It does not appear from the Conversations 
"whether Captain Medwin was married or not at 
the time he was with Lord Byron ; but if he was 
not then married, he must have married very 
shortly afterwards, as the elder of his two children, 
who are still alive, is thought by my informant, an 
Italian lady from Siena, to be more than fifty years 
of age. His wife, as appears from her memorial- 
card,* which I have before me, was a Baroness 



* Italian memorial-cards are like ours, only the in- 
scription runs transversely as generally on our tomb- 
stones, and not lengthways as ours do, and is surmounted 
by a cross. In this particular instance, the inscription 
is on the back of a santino, or little saint, as cards are 
called in Italy which have the image of a saint upon 
them, but this is not generally the case. 



Hamilton,* and born in London ; but how she 
came to have the foreign title of Baroness I am 
unable to make out.f There were two daughters 
born of the marriage, and when they were still 
quite young (bambine, to use the Italian lady's 
expression), Captain Medwin, having got deeply 
into debt, ran away, and was never seen or heard 
of again. Fortunately, his wife was a great 
favourite at the Court of the then Grand Duke of 
Tuscany (the Court of Lorraine, as it was called), 
and the Grand Duchess took charge of the two 
little girls, and had them carefully educated in a 
convent at Florence. Some years afterwards, the 
wife of a rich Italian nobleman, Count Fieri of 
Siena, being in want of a young lady who could 
be a companion to her, as she was childless and 
becoming blind, and taking a fancy to the younger 
Miss Medwin, induced her to come and live with 
them, and she accompanied them to Siena, and 
remained with them probably for some years. 
Before she left Florence, however, it is said that 
the Grand Duchess had pointed out to Count Fieri 
that the young lady would have much less chance 
of finding a suitable husband at Siena than she 
would at the Court at Florence, and that the 
Count, therefore, promised to find a husband for 
her. However this may be, there is no doubt that 
he ultimately did find a husband for her, a Mar- 
chese Nerli, and by him she has six children, five 
sons and one daughter. The Marquis was himself 
rich, and Count Fieri ,J being childless, left him all 
his possessions, on the condition that he should 
adopt his name and title, and at the present time 
the Conte Fieri Nerli has two palaces (I mean, of 
course, Italian palazzi) and five or six large estates. 

The elder daughter also made a good though a 
less brilliant match, for her husband's father was 
Grand Chamberlain to the Court of Tuscany, and 
she has two sons. 

It is evident, therefore, that Captain Medwin 
did the best possible thing he could do for his 
family when he ran away from them, and it is 
certainly remarkable that the descendants of a 
runaway English cavalry officer, who went to Italy 
merely for the benefit of his health (op. cit., p. 1), 
should become Italian marquises and counts. I 
need scarcely say that his two daughters are 



* The inscription on the card runs as follows : "Anna 
Medwin nata Baronessa Hamilton esempio di affetto 
materno di abnegazione di forte animo di religione di 
carit& nacque in Londra il xxvi Febbraio MDCCLXXXVIII 
mori in Siena il xxviii Giugno MDCCCLXVIII fra le braccia 
delle fi^lie Caterina Arritrhi Enrichetta Contessa Pieri 
Nerli desolatissime." There are no stops in the original, 
and I have put none. 

f Possibly she may have been a Lady Hamilton, and 
the Baronessa was considered as some sort of equivalent 
for the Lady. 

J He is generally called "Conte Pieri," though he 
himself naturally prefers his own original title of JVIar- 
chese Nerli, which he, of course, stil! hoi's. 



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[5 th S. V. FEB. 26, 76. 



thoroughly Italian, though they both of them 
know English well, and are mindful of their 
English origin. F. CHANCE. 

Sydenham Hill. 



PROVOKING MISPRINTS. 

1. In the stereotype edition of John Foster's 
celebrated essay, On a Man's writing Memoirs of 
Himself, we read as follows : 

"On the review of a character thus grown, in the 
exclusion of the religious influences to the nature and 
perhaps ultimate state, the sentiment of pious benevo- 
lence would be, I regard you as an object of great com- 
passion, unless there can be no felicity in friendship 
with the Almighty, unless there be no glory in being 
assimilated to his excellence, unless there be no eternal 
rewards for his devoted servants, unless there be no 
danger in meeting him at length, after a life estranged 
equally from his love and his fear." 

The word "nature" should be "mature." The 
beauty of a fine passage is thus sadly marred by 
the omission of a third part of a letter. 

2. At the end of his eloquent " Sketch " of the 
eminent politician, William Windham, Lord 
Brougham put together the nineteenth and twentieth 
and the sixty-seventh and sixty-eighth lines of 
Ovid's Elegy on Tibullus (Amorum, lib. iii. el. 9), 
with an admirable translation, as follows : 

" Scilicet omne sacrum Mors importuna profanat, 

Omnibus obscuras injicit ille manus 
Ossa quieta, precor, tuta, requiescite in urna, 
Et sit humus cineri non onerosa tuo ! " 

" Relentless death each purer form profanes, 

Round all that 's fair his dismal arms he throws 
Light lie the earth that shrouds thy loved remains, 
And softly slumbering may they taste repose ! " 

The sketch of Windham (" Weathercock Billy " 
my father used to call him) was first printed in the 
Edinburgh Review for October, 1838 (vol. IxviiL), 
and has appeared, without correction, in all the 
editions of Lord Brougham's Historical Sketches of 
Statesmen. When writing his translation, Lord 
Brougham was probably thinking, not of the pale 
goddess present to Ovid's imagination, but of the 
" King of Terrors " mentioned by Bildad the 
Shuhite in the Book of Job (chap, xviii. v. 14), 
or, more probably still, of the sublime description 
of Death in Paradise Lost (which his lordship had 
applied with such terrible effect to George IV. as 
the unproduced prosecutor of Queen Caroline). It 
is strange, however, that his lordship should have 
so misquoted Ovid as to make Death feminine in 
the. first line and masculine in the second, and that 
this error should not have been noticed by the 
editor of the Edinburgh Review, or by any person 
concerned in any of the numerous editions of Lord 
Brougham's Statesmen of the Time of George III. 
Of course, the " ille " in the second line should be 
" ilia," and the misprint may have been attribut- 
able, in the first instance, to bad penmanship. 

3. I am sorry to add that the misprints in 'what 



is called the collected edition of Lord Brougham's 
works are very numerous. The following extract 
gives two of the most preposterous : 

"Johnson never would have dared to make such a 
translation as Dryden's of 

' Altos 

Deperisse omnes epotaque flumina Medo 
Prandente,' 

' Rivers, whose depth no sharp beholder sees, 
Drink up an army's dinner to the lees.' " 

Here both the Latin and the English are utter 
nonsense. "Deperisse omnes " should be " Defecisse 
amnes," and " Drink up " should be " Drunk at." 
These blunders could not be accounted for by 
bad handwriting only, and there must have been 
extreme negligence to retain them through several 
editions. 

4. The illustrious Punch himself is not in- 
fallible, and has too much wit and honesty to 
pretend to be so. In his loving notice of Mark 
Lemon, on June 4, 1870, Punch thus misquotes 
the Marquess Wellesley's beautiful epitaph on Miss 
Brougham, which is now on the staircase of 
Lincoln's Inn Chapel : 

" I, pete coelestes, ubi nulla est cura, recessus, 

Et tibi sit, nullo mista labore, quies." 
The word "labore" should have been " dolore" 
and the alteration is the reverse of an improve- 
ment. Mark Lemon believed in the gospel of 
work, and never could have supposed that the 
happiness of heaven would consist in idleness and 
vacancy, or having nothing to do. 

GEORGE BILLER. 

9, The Terrace, Tavistock Road, Westbourne Park, W. 



FAIRY PIPES. 

Most people have heard of the " fairy pipes," so 
called in Ireland, which the spade occasionally 
turns up in the cottager's garden in most parts of 
England. These curious objects are the earlier 
forms of tobacco pipes that had been either re- 
jected, like the failures of poor Beau Brummell, 
or else had served their turn, and been ruthlessly 
thrown aside like an old slipper. It is strange 
that nearly all the " ancient clays " thus dug up 
are broken in stem or bowl ; rarely can you meet 
with an entire bowl and an unshortened stem in 
the same specimen. The following case, it will be 
seen, is therefore quite exceptional. Some ten 
years or more ago I was living in a Shropshire 
parish, that stretched along the ridge of Permian 
rock which looks down upon the valley of the 
Severn. There were in this place quarries of 
capital grey building stone, sound and massive, 
and, from this source, the stone used for Worcester 
Cathedral was generally extracted. I am not pre- 
pared to say that the original structure is of this 
Permian stone, but certainly, in the later repairs 
and restorations, for several centuries, the mate- 
rials were drawn from these quarries. As far as 



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163 



I could learn, one of the quarries had been last 
opened, on occasion of such a cathedral restoration, 
about 200 or 250 years ago ; and, after the stone 
was obtained, the labourers, as usual, had filled in 
the quarry with the smaller stones and rubble 
quite up to the natural face of the rock. In 1865 
this quarry was reopened, in order to get out 
stone for building a school-house, when the work- 
men, on removing the old dtbris, and clearing it 
away to the face of the original working, found, 
hewn out in the rock, a little niche, and on the 
ledge of it lay a small clay tobacco pipe, with, I 
was told, a heap of dust alongside it, which, we 
may suppose, was once tobacco ; for it would 
seem that the poor Shropshire quarryman, now 
himself gone to dust, had, in his haste, unwittingly 
buried his soothing companion, and now here lay 
the " fairy pipe," on the very spot where the owner 
had left it. 

It is said to be a common practice with miners 
and quarrymen thus to hew out a handy place in 
the rock, both to lay down their pipe and also to 
have it, and the ammunition, within reach. The 
Cornish miner always cuts out with his pick a 
small hole wherein to place his pipe when not in 
use ; and there are proverbial sayings common in 
Cornwall with reference to this custom. The 
Cornishrnan, for instance, says " a touch-pipe is as 
good as a rest," that is, having recourse to what 
the Gloucestershire man calls " a draw " now and 
again, in short snatches from his work-time. But 
to return to the lost pipe. The churchwarden of 
the parish, a well-to-do yeoman, who was blessed 
with two grown-up daughters, on whom he had 
bestowed an expensive schooling of the Mangnall 
Question kind, brought the pipe to me, and cer- 
tainly it was a neat specimen, quite perfect, the 
shape of it corresponding to the earlier forms of 
pipe ; and on the ample butt, made for the pur- 
pose of standing it on the table, bowl upwards, 
were the letters impressed I. M. The churchwarden, 
Mr. Sweeds, on bringing me the curious article, 
remarked, " Our Mary Ann, sir, tells me that that 
pipe can't be less than a thousand years old ! " 
" Indeed, how does your daughter make that out?" 
said I. " Well, sir, she says that the I. always 
stands for one, and the M. for a thousand years." 
Making the meek observation that I was not 
aware that tobacco had been in use so long in 
England, I was allowed to keep the little pipe ; 
and at this moment it is hanging upon the wall 
of my study with other curiosities. It is a good 
representative clay of about 250 years ago, and 
doubtless the initial letters stamped on the butt 
are those of the maker's name. It may be James 
Morris, and have come from a Broseley pipery ; 
but this I venture to say subject to the cor- 
rection of any who are knowing in this branch of 
archaeology. Perhaps some correspondent, with a 
knowledge of these old " fairy pipes," will be kind 



enough to say whether I am far out in my conjec- 
ture as to the date and reading. F. S. 
Churchdown. 



A LIST OF ENGLISH WORDS USED BY FRENCH 
WRITERS, AND MISSING IN LITTRE'S D1C- 
T10NNAIRE. 

(Continued from p. 123.) 

Lady. " Celui qui n'a point de lady avec lui est 
envoy e dans le wagon des hommes [dans les chemins de 
fer des Etats-Unis]." L. Simonin. loc. cit., l r Avril, 
1875, p. 563. 

Land-lord. See at will. 

Latitude-man. " Soupgonnes par les puritains de con- 
nivence avec les prelatistes, les latitude-men ne furent pas 
mieux vus des partisans de )a haute eglise triomphante 
avec les Stuarts restaures." A. Reville, loc. cit., 15 Aout. 
1875, p. 867. 

Leader. " II prit rang de leader, de chef politique." 
Th. Bentzon, loc. cit., 15 Mars, 1875, p. 336. 

Leadership " II [M. Gladstone] a resigne son leader- 
ship, ses fonctions de chef de 1'opposition dans la chambre 
des communes, et un tel sacrifice a du lui couter." Re- 
vue des Deux Mondes, l r Juillet, 1875, p. 202. 

Leading-article. "J'ecris des rapports de plusieurs 
feuilles, nets et ronds comme des leading-articles, et si, 
apres les avoir lus, Manteuffel y comprend goutte, il est 
plus fort que moi." Bismarck, quoted by J. Klaczko, 
Deux Chanceliers ; Rev. des Deux Mondes, 15 Juin, 1875, 
p. 758. 

Lecturer. " Si Ton sait se mettre a leur niveau, animer, 
egayer la conference, comme certains lecturers saverit si 
bien le faire, les enfans ecoutent avec plaisir." L. 
Simonin, loc. cit., l r Janvier, 1875, p. 80. 

Loafer. " Les rowdies, les loafers, les pick-pockets, lea 
connaissent bien [les detectives], et ceux-la les connaissent 
encore mieux." Id. ibid., p. 72. 

Lobbyisme. " Bien qu'on 1'accuse tout bas d'allures un 
peu libres etqu'elle soitsoupgonnee de lobbyisme,...1ja,\ire 
voit les pretendans affluer autour d'elle." Th. Bentzon, 
loc. cit., p. 337. 

Lobbyiste." Ces courtiers males et femelles, ces 
lanceurs d'affaires, ces intermediates qu'on appelle des 
lobbyistes (coulissiers)." Id. ibid., p. 333. 

Lodging-house. " Des ce moment, la Moge de Fulton,' 
c'est ainsi qu'on avait baptise familierementle lodying- 
hoiise cree dans la rue de ce nom [New- York], etait 
fondee." L. Simonin, loc. cit., l r Janv., 1875, p. 66. 

Log-house." Arrive a destination, on campait sous 
une cahiite de troncs d'arbres, le log-house, et Ton se 
mettait a defricher et a semer." Id. ibid., l r Avril, 
1875, p. 555. 

Log-hut. " La fumee du log-hut, cette rustique cita- 
delle du colon, s'elevant, a la place des feux de bivouac, 
au-dessus des forets de la Floride, annoncait a peine le 
retour de la paix." Comte de Paris, loc. cit., l r Juillet, 

1874, p. 18. 

Luncheoner. "Mon cher Dickens, nous sommes en- 
charites de votre retour. Voici, thank God, Devonshire- 
Place ressuscite. Venez luncheoner demain a une heure, 
et amenez votre brave ami Forster." Comte d'Orsay, 
quoted by L. Boucher, Revue des Deux Mondes, l r Mars, 

1875, p. 114. 

Luncher (Littre gives the word in the " Supplement," 
but without example). "II faut, au sortir du stade 

fd'Ephese], remonter dans 1'odieux wagon, apres avoir 
unche avec du pale ale chez un juif anglais." E. Mel- 
chior de Vogue, loc. cit., 15 Janvier, 1875, p. 332. 

Mac-ferlane. " II entra par la porte de Saint-Denis, 
cachant sous un mac-ferlane son bras en echarpe et son 



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[5 th S. V. 1'EB. 26, 76. 



ruban de la mcdaille militaire." A. Houssaye, L Amour- 
dans la Mart ; Aux Alsaciens et aux Lorrams : L'Of- 
frande : par la Societe des Gens de Lettres, p. 133. 

^Magazine. " II [le roman]...se glisse chez le pauvre 
eons la forme d'une magazine a un demi-penny.' 
Odysse-Barrot, loc. ciL, iv. 211. 

Maiden-speech." Les Bevlinois eux-memes n eurent 
pas d'autre nom pour lui [de.r tolle Bismarck] pendant 
longtemps, pendant toute la periode parlementaire du 
jeune depute de la Marche, depuis son maiden-speech et 
sa premiere apparition 4 la tribune." J. Klaczko, loc. 

j/ a?? or. "C'etait sur la rive gauche de FHudson que 
s'etcndaientces vastes domaines ou manors, don gracieux 
du gouvernement de la metre-pole aux planteurs venus de 
si loin." L. Simonin, loc. cit., l r Avril, 1875, p. 557. 

Master. "Nommez-moi master Smithson, c'est mon 
pseudonyme pour le q'iart d'heure." A. Reville, Reduc- 
tion de Le Major Frans, par Mine. Boshoom-Tcmssaint, 
vi. ; Rev. des Deux Mondes, 15 Juillet, 1875, p. 284. 

Mutter of fact. "Chez les cordonniers, il y a deux 
societes co-operatives de production, dont 1'urie date de 
1870; mais le delegue de ce corps d'etat... a trouvc que, 
dans un rapport de plus de 100 pages, ces matters oj fact 
ne meritaient pas plus de trois lignes." P. Leroy- 
Benulieu, Itcv. des Deux Mondes, l r Juillet, 1875, p. 165. 

Meeting (Littre gives the word, with this limited and 
incomplete definition : " Mot anglais qui se dit d'une 
reunion populaire avant pour objet de discuter sur une 
question politique "). " Ses attaques furent dirigces en 
])articulier centre le.s meetings de methodistes." Edward 
Egiileston, Le Predicateur Ambulant, ii. ; Rev. des Deux 
Mondes, l r Octobre, 1S74, p. 688. "Les meetings du 
dimanche sont plus flori-sans que jamais." L. Simonin, 
loc. cit., l r Avril, 1875, p. 79. 

Minstrel. "N ombre d'autres [theatres, a New-York], 
ou Ton joue le drame et la comedie, quand des minstrels 
ou menetriers, travestis 'en negres d'Ethiopie,' n'y 
executent pas leurs danses de caractere et n'y chantent 
pas Icurs traditionnelles chansonnettes." L. Siruoniu, 
loc. cit., l r Decembre, 1874, p. 670. 

Mistress (Littre has mistriss). "Mistress Gamp, dont 
le nom ne pent plus se prononcer qu'a travers un eclat 
de rire." L. Boucher, loc. cit., p. 111. 

Money-making. '' Un pays ou les fonctions politiques 
les plus eminentes sont a la merci du premier venu, 
pourvn qu'il ait reu-^si dans le money-making, la chasse 
aux dollars." Th. Bentzon, loc. cit., p. 343, 

Movnd. "Ces mounds immenses, ces tumulus fune- 

raires [d'Amerique] qui les a laisses V L. Simonin 

loc. c'd., l r Avril, 1875, p. 556. 

Newspaper. " Ces petits vendeurs de journaux qu'on 
trouve partout aux Etats-Unis, monterent dans le train 
et vinrent nous vendre les newspapers parus a 1'instant." 
L. Simonin, loc. cit., p. 573. 

Nobleman. " On les rencontre tres-souvent en Eu- 
rope, ces Americaines echevelees de 1'ouest. Elles 

truinent derri'jre ellts leurs parens, la mere transformee 
en une duujjne bonas-e, le pere en un nobleman d'ap- 
parat." Id. ibid., p. 565. 

_ Objectionable." L'auteur d'un des essais les plus ob- 
jfctionullf [dea Essays and Reviews, d'Oxford, 1860] 
n'ctait autre que 1'ex-vice-principal de Lampeter [Row- 
land Williams]."- A. Reville, loc. cit., 15 Aout, 1875, 
p. oo.i. 

Outlaw." Des outlaws, qui sait, insinua Vocasse." 
h. d Hervilly, Contes pour les Grandes Personnes p ^80 
Pans, Churpentier, 1874. "Quand la chretiente entiere 
(lemandait la paix aux Musulmans, ces outlaws Ties 
/aporogues], abandonnesdetous, continuaient la guerre " 
A. Rambaud, Rev. des Deux Mondes, l r Juin ; 1875 p 817 



Pale ale. " Une bouteille de pale ale, qui coute 4 
Yeddo 1 fr. 25 cent., m'a etc vendue la [a Statsporo, ile 
d'Yezo] 3 fr. 75 cent." G. Bousquet, Rev. des Deux 
Mondes, l r Janvier, 1875, p. 214. 

Patroon. " Quand il a fallu fixer avec les descendans 
de ces patroons [premiers concessionnaires sur la rive 
gauche de 1'Hudson] les limites du champ concede,... c/a 
etc... une source de diflScultes sans nombre." L. Simonin, 
loc. cit., l r Avril, 1875, p. 557. 

Personal. "Une des curiosites de cette feuille [the 
New York Herald] sont les personals qui en ouvrent la 
premiere colonne." Id. ibid., l r Dec., 1874, p. 667. 

Pickpocket. " Prenez garde aux pickpockets." Id. 
ibid., p. 680. 

Policeman. " Impassibles, 1'oeil aux aguets, resignes 
au sort qui peut-etre les attend, les policemen surveillent 
avec zele ces dangereux quartiers." Id. ibid., l r Janvier, 
1875, p. 72. 

Politicien.' 1 Une municipalite sans foi [a New- York] 
a dans maintes rencontres impudemment empoche 1'ar- 
fient des contribuables pour le partager avec les 'poli- 
ticiens ' qui 1'avaient nominee." Id. ibid., l r Dec., 1874, 
p. 677. 

Pound. "Un individu etant lese par quelqu'un ou 
ayant quelque reclamation a sa charge pouvait saisir le 
betuil de celui-ci, et le conduire dans une prairie close, 
reservee a cet effet dans le village et appelee pound." 
E. de Laveleye, loc. cit., 15 Avril, 1875, p. 790. 

Preacher. " Les meetings ont lieu le soir dans les logis 
et les ecoles. On y chante des cantiques, puis parait sur 
1'estrade quelque reverend, ami de la maison, ou quelque 
preacher renomme, souvent encore un enfant hardi, qui 
s'adresse a ses camarades dans une langue melee d'argot 
ou slang." L. Simonin, loc. cit., l r Janvier, 1875, p. 79. 

Prelatiste. " Toute la litterature theologique de ce 
temps [xvi c et xvii e siecles] est absorbee par les querelles 




est devenu ce qui s'appelle du nom tres-significatif de 
ritualisme." Id. ibid., 15 Mars, 1875, p. 286. 

Puscixte. " Le parti puseiste vit bon nombre de ses 
adherens les plus distingues passer avec armeset bagages 
dans 1'eglise catholique." Id. ibid. 

Littre gives puseysme and puseyste. I find also 
puseyisme : 

_ "Comme re'plique au positivisme irreligieux et mate- 
rirtliste, il y a le pu?eyisme et le rituaHsme." J. Milsand, 
Rev. des Deux Mondes, l r Sept., 1874, p. 25. 

HENRI GAUSSERON. 
Ayr Academy. 

(To be continued.) 



MISPRONUNCIATION OF ANCIENT PROPER 
NAMES. Many Scriptural names are now so es- 
tablished in wrong accentuations, that it would be 
hopeless to attempt bringing them back to the 
original standards, e. g. Deborah, Jericho, Betlia- 
bara, Samaria, Alexandria, Philadelphia. Milton 
adopted most of these popular perversions, and 
also wrote Dalilah and Harapha. Hence I ques- 
tion if he knew Hebrew. At least he was either 
ignorant or regardless of the Masoretic points, the 
only sure guides to the quantities of syllables. 
Many readers offend grossly in saying " Lord . . . 
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iin English clergyman who defended this on the 
plea that it tended to make the people regard God 
.as " Lord of the Sabbath " ! It was, I think, the 
same man who, on his remarking that such an 
application would not convince an adversary, re- 
plied, " If we cannot find stones to throw at them, 
we may pelt them with mud." A still more inex- 
cusable abuse occurs in " Alpha and Omega," in a 
popular hymn, and in Chambers's Etymological 
Dictionary, 1874. Many years ago I succeeded 
in drawing clerical attention to the practice (then 
universal) of reading in the Psalms " the Morlans' 
land," instead of Morians' Moors', which cor- 
rection is now generally adopted. Milton, in 
Paradise Regained, uses " Arsaces " in place of 
Arsaces. S. T. P. 

[The list might be extended to a very great length. 
Shakspeare has settled the mispronunciation of Hyperion, 
and few people pronounce Diana, Regulus, or Africa ac- 
cording to their old quantities. The following words are 
among scores of examples of mispronunciation in their 
popular English forms Radix, Vertigo, Civilis, Orator, 
Senator, Ssdulus, Mediocritas, Fernina, Credulus, Dlvi- 
dens, Llvida, Rulnosus, Nominare, Liberalis, Formida- 
bilis, Spiritus, Meridiem, Criminari, Lasclvus, Orlgo, 
Discrlminare, Floridus, Bison, Discipllna, Irritabilis, 
Cathedra, Tribunal, &c. The ear is sometimes hurt at 
the popular pronunciation of Acumen, with the u short, 
yet no one in speaking English says, as in strictness he 
should say, Anemone. Custom has become law in some 
of these matters.] 

BUCOLIC SPELLS. Not long since I had occa- 
sion to transcribe for the Proper Authority some 
registers of marriages. In one of these the offi- 
ciating minister had written the bride's name a 
very common name in the accepted way, though 
she herself, with barely the ability to scrawl her 
signature, had spelled it in another fashion. A 
few days elapsed, and I then received from the 
Proper Authority a document drawing my particular 
attention to three statements : 1. How I could 
'reconcile the difference in the spelling of the 
bride's name ; 2. To rectify the error ; 3. To be 
very careful not to make 'such a mistake for the 
future. The first of these statements was not 
easily answered ; for any one who has had but a 
few years' acquaintance with the subject will know 
that the spelling of proper names, especially in 
agricultural parishes, is a problem beyond the 
solution of average brains. Within my own ex- 
perience a cottager's wife told the clergyman of 
her parish that she wished her baby to be chris- 
tened "Hemmar. 




family." What is a clergyman to do when such 
spells are laid upon him, especially if he writes 
" Hemmar" in the parish register, and the Proper 
Authority comes down upon him for his display 
of ignorance, and with the request that he will 



reconcile his spelling with the rules laid down by 
the government school inspectors ? This subject 
is terribly suggestive of some novel " Recreations 
of a Country Parson." It has been forced upon 
me, within the past few days, by the difficulty of 
spelling a certain parishioner's name. He is game- 
keeper to Lord , and his mother, who has 

died, at the age of eighty-two, was the widow of a 
former parish clerk. His name is pronounced 
" Wheelband " ; but, for the last five years, I have 
frequently seen it spelt " Wildband," and have so 
written the word whenever I had occasion to trans- 
cribe it. When the mother of this man died the 
other day, her name, in the usual certificate handed 
to the officiating clergyman, was written " Whel- 
born." Her husband's name was entered in the 
parish register, in 1868, as " Wilbourn," and en- 
graved on his tombstone as " Wilband." It is 
written thus in the parish register for 1817 and 
1862. In 1824, 1827, and 1830, it appears as 
" Willband " ; in 1833 and 1868 as " Wilbourn " ; 
in 1853 and 1859 as " Whelbourn" ; and in 1855 
as " Whelburn." In a marriage in this family 
the bride signed her name " Wilbourn " : and her 
brother and sister signed, as attesting witnesses, 
" Wilband." The above instance is met with in a 
small rural parish of 173 inhabitants. 

CUTHBERT BEDE. 

SNUFF. I heard it lately observed that when 
Goldsmith wrote the well-known lines in Retalia- 
tion, in 1774, 
" When they talk'd of their Raphaels, Corregios, and 

stuff, 

He shifted his trumpet and only took snuff," 
he must have had in his mind Swift's poem, en- 
titled The Grand Question, 1729, in which occur 
the lines 

" Your Noveds, and Blutraks, and Omurs, and stuff, 
By G they don't signify this pinch of snuff." 

It may fairly be assumed that in both these 
cases the writers really meant a pinch of snuff ; 
but in the early part of the last century the word 
"snuff" was often employed to designate refuse 
or waste. Thus Swift, in the "Dialogues on Polite 
Conversation, by Simon Wagstaffe, 1738," represents 
Miss Notable as drinking a part of a glass of 
wine, whereupon Colonel Neverout says, "Pray 
let me drink your snuff" ; to which Miss Notable 
replies, " No, indeed you shan't drink after me, 
for you'll know my thoughts." A little earlier 
than this " snuff " was commonly used to express 
offence or resentment. The following lines were 
written in 1703, when the Queen desired the House 
to agree to a money vote in favour of the Duke of 
Marlborough ; and it was suggested that the Vigo 
prize money should be given to him : 

" The Queen a message to the Senate sent, 
To beg her Duke a boone in Parliament ; 
After a warm debate the House grew bold, 
And bid her pay her Duke in Vigo Gold. 



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Tho' this was thought confounded hard by some, 
To give to one what t'other Duke brought home, 
Bulk broke, it did appear upon plain prooff, 
The Gold Galloon had not brought wealth enough, 
At which her Grace and Majesty took snuff." 
The last line here evidently means that both the 
ladies were much offended. Johnson defines one of 
the meanings of " snuff" as " resentment expressed 
by snifting," of which he gives illustrations from 
L'Estrange, "Jupiter took snuff at the contempt," 
and from Malachi i. 13, "Behold what a weariness 
it is, and ye have snuffed at it." 

EDWARD SOLLY. 

TENNYSON'S " ENOCH ARDEN." I have been 
struck by the similarity of an observation in the 
above poem to a remark of Lord Carnarvon's in 
his Portugal and Gallicia. It will be remembered 
that Annie, after her marriage with Philip, was 
much subject to nervous tremors and melancholy, 
" but," says the poet 

" When her child was born, 
Then her new child was as herself renewed ; 
Then the new mother came about her heart, 
Then her good Philip was her all-in-all, 
And that mysterious instinct wholly died." 

The passage in Lord Carnarvon is as follows : 
" A prior attachment sometimes continues to exist in 
a woman's mind long after marriage, but, except in a 
person of very deeply rooted aifections, rarely survives 
the birth of a child : from that hour the current of her 
thoughts becomes changed ; new duties, new feelings,, 
new hopes, arise to banish former regrets, and 
She who lately lored the best 
Forgets she loved at all." 

I quote from the third edition, published in 1848, 
c. ii. p. 39. While speaking of this poem, I would, 
for the sake of appending a query, point to another 
coincidence. While Enoch was on that " beauteous 
hateful isle," " the loneliest in a lonely sea," once, 
" Tho' faintly, merrily far and far away 
He heard the pealing of his parish bells." 

Kinglake, in his charming Eothen (c. xvii.)? 
notes a like occurrence. He "had fallen asleep in 
the desert, " but, after awhile," he writes, 

" I was gently awakened by a peal of church bells 
my native bells, the innocent bells of Marlen, that never 
before sent forth their music beyond the Blaygon hills. 
......I was well enough awakened; but still those old 

Marlen bells rang on, not ringing for joy, but properly, 

prosily, steadily, merrily, ringing 'for church.' Since 

my return to England, it has been told me that the like 
sounds have been heard at sea, and that the sailor 
becalmed under a vertical sun, in the rnid-t of the wide 
ocean, has listened in trembling wonder to the chime of 
his own village bells I found that the day was Sun- 
day." 

I should feel obliged for references to any au- 
thentic accounts of such mysterious sounds. 

MOTH. 

" LA PROPRI^TE" C'EST LE VOL." This expression 
is, I believe, usually attributed to Prudhon, but in 
the Organisation du Travail, by Louis Blanc, 



which was published in 1848, is the following 
passage : 

"Charles Fourier a cru devoir formuler en termes 
bizarres et peu intelligibles les idees qui composent le 
fond de son systeme. Vient un badigeonneur litteraire 
qui s'empare du systeme de Fourier, 1'expose dans ua 
style clair, elegant si Ton veut, et met le tout en vente. 
Vous voyez bien que, a cote de Fourier qui va mourir de 
faim, le badigeonneur s'enrichera. Entendue de la sorte,. 
qu'ett ce que la propriete ? C'est le vol." 

KALPH N. JAMES. 

Ashford, Kent. 

SYMBOLICAL COLOURS : COLOUR EHYMES. 
Blue is the colour associated with faithfulness 
" true blue " ; but I have read somewhere, or 
heard it asserted, that green is the real symbolical 
colour of faithfulness ; it is Nature's own colour, 
and therefore must be a true one. Perhaps some 
correspondent of " N. & Q." will put me right if I 
am wrong in this matter. It would be interesting- 
to know why lovers and other sentimental persons 
have such an antipathy to the colour without which 
Nature would be robbed of all her beauties, and 
also to know what circumstances gave rise to such 
sayings as 

" Green 's forsaken, 
Yellow 's forsworn ; 
Blue 's the colour 
That shall (or must) be worn." 
Or 

" Yellow, yellow, turned up with green, 

The ugliest colour that ever was seen." 
Again, amongst certain sections of the people r 
who in their green age write tender and ill-spelfc 
epistles to each other, a favourite rhyme to end a 
first letter with is this : 

" If you love me, love me true, 
Send me a ribbon, and let it be blue. 
If you hate me, let it be seen, 
Send me a ribbon, and let it be green." 

THOMAS KATCLIFFE. 

Worksop. 

MOTHER-IN-LAW'S BREATH. So the villagers 
in this part of Sussex call a sharp, biting, damp 
wind, known in Kent by the phrase " lash and 
garmsey." At any rate, the Kentish phrase was 
quite familiar to my father, whose "boast of 
birth " was, that he was not a Kentish man but a 
" Man of Kent," which he always interpreted to 
be parallel to the phrase " a Hebrew of the He- 
brews," meaning that he was no adventitious- 
settler in those parts, but that the family was- 
indigenous, or sprung from the soil. I mention 
this because the subject has cropped up again, and 
among the suggestions the one referred to above- 
has not been made. E. COBHAM BREWER. 

Lavant, Chichester. 

" MARMALADE." Richardson gives an example 
of this word from Tyndall. The following passage 
from Euphues and his England (ed. Arber, p. 266} 



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curiously illustrates the modern use of it afte 
breakfast at Oxford : " Euphues would dye if h 
should not talke of love once in a day, and ther 
fore you must give him leave after every meal 
to cloase his stomacke with love, as with marma 
lade." PELAGIUS. 



[We must request correspondents desiring informatio 
on family matters of only private interest, to affix thei 
names and addresses to their queries, in order that th 
answers may be addressed to them direct.] 

ARISTOTLE AND ORPHALE. Has any one callec 
attention to the misconception iri the treatment, bj 
Jackson's History of Wood Engraving (2nd ed. 
p. 279), of Burgkmair's engraving of Aristotle 
carrying a woman on his back? Mr. Jackson 
says : 

" Though Aristotle is said to have been extremel 
fond of his wife Pythais [sic], and to have paid he 
divine honours after her death " [is there any reason fo 
supposing that there is a shadow of truth in this?J 
" there is no record, I believe, of her having amusec 
herself with riding on her husband's back." 

Burgkmair's subject was of course drawn from the 
famous Lai d'Aristote, which is contained in al 
the collections of mediaeval fabliaux. A history 
of this legend is to be found at page 279 of the 
first volume of the collection edited by Legrand 
d'Aussy (Paris, 1829, 5 vols. 8vo.), where, however, 
in speaking of the works of art founded on this 
subject, the editor ignores Burgkmair's engraving, 
and gives the earliest place to the painting done 
by Spranger in the seventeenth century, a hundred 
years after Btirgkmair. The latter, in his picture, 
follows the rule of the Dutch school to pay no 
regard to the mise en scene in legendary or mytho- 
logical subjects, and gives us simply a Dutch pair 
" amusing" themselves in a rather singular but 
perfectly irreproachable manner. Spranger, by 
going to the other extreme, and making Orphale 
*' entierement nue, fagon fort singuliere de se 
proraener," as Legrand says, does better justice to 
the somewhat scandalous subject. 

ARROWSMITH. 
Hartford, U.S.A. 

VARIOUS. I am desirous to ascertain : 1. When 
Spotswood compiled his Religious Houses that were 
in Scotland at the Time of the Reformation. An 
edition of Hope's Minor Practices was published 
in 1734, which has for an appendix an account of 
the religious houses, but no date is given as to 
when it was compiled. Of course it would be 
long before Hope's Practicks was published. 

2. When was Sir James Balfour Lyon King-of- 
Arms, and when did he die ? It is noted that he 
was the Lyon to King Charles I. and II. 

J. F. S. G. 

Glasgow. 



SIR E. FORTESCUE, the defender of Fort Charles, 
Salcombe, Devon, 1645-46, left a manuscript giving 
certain particulars of the siege. In Hawkins's His- 
tory of Kingsbridge and Salcombe is given a portion 
of this, and the descendants of Sir E. Fortescue 
possess a copy, about fifty years old, of another 
portion, but neither pretends to be a complete 
copy. Can any one tell me where the original 
manuscript is to be found ? It is not in the 
British Museum or the Eecord Office. 

PAUL Q. KARKEEK. 
Museum, Torquay. 

VALUE OF LAND TEMP. HENRY VIII. It would 
be of great service to me if any correspondent whose 
attention has been specially drawn to the subject 
would inform me what was the value of land gene- 
rally in England, and in Gloucestershire particu- 
larly, to let or to sell, in the reign of Henry VIII. 

JNO. BELLOWS. 

Gloucester. 

G. SINTZENICK. I possess a fine water-colour 
drawing, subject Malmesbury Abbey, &c., Essex, 
signed G. Sintzenick. The period and style are 
those of Turner in h:'s best manner, and the finish 
and effect denote an artist of standing and import- 
ance. I have not been able to find a notice of 
him in any of the numerous dictionaries and other 
works on art which I have consulted, and shall be 
glad of any information as to his nationality and 
the estimation in which his works are held. 

GEO. H. BAKER. 

ROBERT HODGSON, 1577. Stow, in his Survey 
of London, describing the monuments of St. Al- 
phage, Cripplegate, gives the following epitaph : 
"Here lyeth buried under this stone the body of 
Robert Hodgson, Esquire, one of the Auditors of the 
Queene's Majesties Court of Exchequer : who died the 
26 day of May, in the yeare of our Lord 1577." 

Where can I obtain any information about him ? 

THOMAS BIRD. 
Romford. 

THE REV. H. S. COTTON. Can any one furnish 
ne with a few biographical particulars respecting 
his eminent angling-book collector ? I know this 
much about him, that he was a descendant of 
zaak Walton's " most honoured friend," Ch. Cot- 
ion, of which I opine he was not a little proud ; 
hat he was Ordinary of Newgate (a position, by 
he way, which one would think must have been 
ingularly uncongenial to a lover of "virtue and 
ngling ") ; and that his fine collection of angling 
>ooks one of the best of the day were sold by 
uction by Mr. Sotheby on Dec. 20, 1838. A 
atalogue of this sale, with the prices and pur- 
hasers' names filled in, is lying before me, and I 
ote that the 206 lots only realized 1741. 15s. 
uch a collection, brought to the hammer in the 
resent day, would, I have little doubt, bring fully 



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three times the amount ; and, to prove this to be 
no mere random conjecture, I will select two lots, 
and state what they went for at the time, and 
their subsequent rise. Lot 199, a presentation 
copy (" To my most worthy honored friend Mrs. 
Digbie, to her presented from her most humble 
servant Izaak Walton ") of the WottoniancB Reli- 
quice, 1651 the inscription said to be about the 
finest specimen of the autograph of Walton ex- 
tant bought by the late Mr. Pickering for 51. 7s. Qd. 
was resold at his sale for 30Z. Lot 183, also a 
presentation copy, to Jo. Chalkhill (vide "N. & Q.,' ; 
5 th S. iii. 365), of the Lives, purchased by Tite 
(Sir Wra.) for 51. 5s., is now on sale at Messrs. 
Ellis & White's at 21 1. ; what they paid for it I do 
not know. I think Mr. Cotton had a nephew 
Lynch Cotton : was he in any way remarkable ? 
CH. ELKIN MATHEWS. 
Codford St. Mary. 

" THERE ARE ELMS AND ELMS." This phrase. 
which occurs in MR. MORTIMER COLLINS'S sensible 
note on " Milton's Forestry " (p. 92), leads me to 
make a query. When and where did this sort of 
phrase come into use ? My impression is that it 
was first ventilated in the House of Commons not 
many years since ; and I have an indistinct re- 
collection of its occurrence in a speech (probably 
of Mr. Bright's or Mr. Lowe's) on the last Eeform 
Bill. I am pretty sure its colloquial use is con- 
fined to the last three or four years. For my part 
I scrupulously avoid it, as being a dry logical for- 
mula, like " some is not some." Its direct function 
is to assert that a class contains more than one 
individual ; but it is used to imply that the indi- 
viduals in it are not all alike. JABEZ 

Athenaeum Club. 

RiEux.-I read in the Histoire des Dignitez 
Jlonomires de France . . . par le Sieur de S La- 

163% 53 r 4 i0 5!. aphe (ParIS ' ardin Beson S ne > 
" Peut-on nier que les Royaumes, Duchez, Marquisats 

Comtez terres et sei^neuries qui sont nontenant en 

cette Maison [<1 Autnche], n'y soient entrees [.* c ] depuis 
avancement et le trop bon mesmge de Rudolph! par 

les acquests et les conquests de la lance de chair comme 

dit Rieux, un certain Poete Alemand " 
i What is the real name of this German poet of 
;hich . JJ lgM .v undoubtedly is a corrupted form, and 



THE HISTORY OF PEPYS'S DIARY." In 1858 
LteratUre ^^ th 



to be 



f L i teratUre ^ the ities 

} V nT ?T S T - is this m ^Bcript 
In the latter editions of the Diary, 



Lord Braybrooke for some reasons ceased to allude 
to Mr. Smith's connexion with thework, saying 
in the 1848 edition that the history of the Diary 
was so well known, " the preface has not been 
reprinted." JOHN E. BAILEY. 

Stretford, Manchester. 

"NOT AGAINST, BUT BEYOND REASON." These 

words, which occur in an article in the February 
number of the Contemporary Review, are obviously 
a fragment of the axiom, " Some things there be 
that are according to reason, some that are beyond 
reason, and some that are contrary to reason." 
Who wrote, and what is the precise form of, this 
same axiom 1 . HENRY CAMPKIN, F.S.A. 
Reform Club. 

W. PARKINSON. Mary, the dau. of Edmund 
Armstrong, the Eoyalist, married the Rev. Edward 
Parkinson, of Ardee. co. Louth, and had, among 
other children, William Parkinson, who li served 
his apprenticeship with Alderman Gedler of Liver- 
pool, and embarked in commerce/' Can any one' 
give me the names of William's wife and descen- 
dants ? P. TOPPIN. 

Compton Basset, Calne, Wilts. 

TITUS GATES. The late Mr. W. Black used to 
assert that Titus Gates once became a " Seventh 
Day Baptist " minister or elder, and in that capa- 
city officiated as pastor of the meeting house in 
Mill Yard, Goodman's Fields. Mr. Black said the 
feet was recorded in the " church books," which 
he had inspected. He was pastor of the same' 
meeting house. I presume that the books are- 
accessible, and can be seen by application to the' 
proper authorities. Does the above pastorate 
figure in any memoir of Gates ? N. 

STEPHEN KEMBLE. The following paragraph is 
extracted from White's History, Gazetteer, and 
Directory of Hampshire, 1859. Is the incident 
mentioned anywhere else ? 

" When Stephen Kemble was manager of Portsmouth' 
Theatre, he performed Richard III. on a non-play night 
for the sole gratification of a jolly tar, who paid five 
guineas for his treat, and sailed next day for India." 

J. N. B. 

REV. ROBERT HUNTER in 1678 was described 
as " Minister of Liverpool " ; in the same year he 
was presented to the vicarage of Garstang, in Lan- 
cashire, which he resigned in 1679. Any further 
information about him will be thankfully received. 
H. FISHWICK, F.S.A. 

Carr Hill, Rochdale. 

"TINKERS' NEWS." In Gloucestershire, when 
any piece of information is mentioned that has 
been heard or told before, it is called " tinkers'' 
news." What is the origin of the expression 1 

W. E. ADAMS. 



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169 



THE OFFICE OF POET TO THE CITY OF LONDON. 
In Nichols's Literary A necdotes of the Eighteenth 
Century (ed. 1812, vol. i. pp. 41-44) is to be found 
an interesting and amusing notice of Elkanah 
Settle, dramatic poet, droll poet, and miscellaneous 
writer. In 1691 he "obtained the office of poet 
to the City of London, and with it a pension for 
an annual panegyric to celebrate the annual 
festival of their Chief Magistrate." Here follows 
a list of Settle's predecessors in the office, dating 
from 1585 to 1689. When was the office insti- 
tuted, when abolished, and where can a complete 
list of the appointments be seen ? F. D. 

Nottingham. 

BELL-FOUNDERS OF NORTHAMPTONSHIRE. 1. 
The Bagleys (Henry, Matthew, and William) were 
established at Chacombe for many years. The site 
of their foundry is known. 

2. Henry Bagley, of Ecton, cast a ring of bells 
for Lichfield Cathedral in 1687. 

3. Henry Bagley, formerly of Chacombe, settled 
at Witney, in Oxfordshire, about the year 1730. 

4. William and Henry Bagley, of Northampton, 
cast bells about 1714. 

5. Thomas Eayre, of Kettering, cast bells as 
late as 1762. 

6. Henry Penn, of Peterborough, cast bells from 
about 1700 till his death in 1729. 

Any information about these founders and the 
sites of the foundries, &c., other than is given by 
Dr. Raven and other writers on bells, will be very 
useful to me in forming a collection of notes for 
an account of the church bells of Northampton- 
shire. THOMAS NORTH. 

The Bank, Leicester. 

" Ne facias de caseo naviculam nee de pane unura S. 
Bartholomeum.'' 

Whence does this monkish refectory motto come ? 
Is tiiere any more of it 1 It is wanted for a special 
use, if you can procure me any information about it. 

C. W. PRICE. 
Lansdown Terrace, Great Malyern. 

ROLLRICK OR EOLLRIGHT STONES. What are 
the legends clustering around these remains ? 

C. H. P. 

G. HERBERT : G. WITHER : F. QUARLES. 
What are the best biographies or biographical 
notices of the above 1 FR^ENATUS. 

_ " OTHELLO." As there appears to be some divi- 
sion of opinion as to the manner in which the follow- 
ing quotation ought to be emphasized, will any of 
your readers explain the correct rendering, and the 
authority upon which he dates his information ? 

" Yet she wished 
That Heaven had made her such a man." 

Othello, Act i. sc. 3. 

W. H. PAGE. 

Belfast. 



THE WOKING GRAVE PLANT. Can any reader 
give an explanation of this curious plant, described 
in the Family Topographer (London, J. B. Nichols), 
vol. i. p. 175, as follows ? 

" In Woking Churchyard grows a kind of plant about 
the thickness of a bulrush, with a top like asparagus, 
shooting up nearly to the surface of the earth, above 
which it never appears, and when the corpse is quite con- 
sumed the plant dies away. This observation has been 
made in other churchyards when the soil is light red 



Shepherd's Bush. 



J. PEARCE. 



IRISH VERSION OF THE NEW TESTAMENT. 
(5 th S. iv. 388, 436.) 

Though not an Irish reader of " N. & Q.," I 
can give some information to D. F. regarding the 
Archbishops of Tuam who were connected with 
the translation of the New Testament into Irish. 
Nehemiah Donellan, a native of the county of 
Galway, educated at the University of Cambridge, 
and consecrated to the see of Tuam May 18, 
1595, is stated, in the writ of privy seal directing 
his appointment to the metropolitical see of his 
native province, to be " very fit to communicate 
with the people in their native tongue, and a very 
meet instrument to retain and instruct them in 
duty and religion ; and that he had also taken 
great pains in translating and putting to the press 
the Communion Book and New Testament in the 
Irish language, which her Majesty greatly approved 
of" (Rot. Pat.}. He voluntarily resigned his see 
in 1609, and, dying soon afterwards, at Tuam, was 
buried in his cathedral. The dedication and pre- 
face to the Irish New Testament, printed in 1602, 
are of his composition (The Tribes of Hy- Many, 
printed by the Archaeological Society of Ireland, 
p. 159, and Cotton's Fasti Ecclesice Hibernicce, 
iv. 13 ; v. 271). 

William Daniel, or O'Donnell, D.D., a native of 
Kilkenny, was one of the first scholars of Trinity 
College, Dublin, nominated in the charter of 
foundation March 3, 1592, 34 Elizabeth, and after- 
wards elected a fellow of the same in 1593, being 
then Prebendary of Ta-Scoffin, in the cathedral 
church of Kilkenny, his native diocese of Ossory ; 
and he is described as " Laicus in Anglia " (Reg. 
Vis.\ which probably means that he was then, 
1591, studying at Oxford or Cambridge, as was 
common in those days. He was appointed Trea- 
surer of St. Patrick's Cathedral, Dublin, by patent 
of Aug. 2, 1609 ; and by the same instrument he 
was likewise created Archbishop of Tuam, being 
consecrated at St. Patrick's before the end of the 
same month. He held the treasurership in com- 
mendam till his death, at Tuam, July 11, 1628. 
He completed the translation, from the Greek, of 



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the New Testament into Irish, which had been 
commenced by Nicholas Walsh, Bishop of Ossory 
(from 1577 to 1585), and John Kearney, Treasurer 
of St. Patrick's, Dublin, 1571 to 1580, died about 
1600 ; and it was printed at Dublin, in quarto, in 
1602-3, with a dedication to King James I., the 
charges of printing it being borne by the province 
of Connaught and Sir William Ussher, Clerk of 
the Council. He also translated the Book of Com- 
mon Prayer into the same language from the Eng- 
lish, and it was published at Dublin, in folio, in 
1608, being dedicated to the Lord Deputy of Ire- 
land, Sir Arthur Chichester. The New Testament 
was afterwards reprinted in 1681, at the expense 
of the Hon. Robert Boyle. Abp. O'Donnell, who 
appears to have been a man of distinguished 
learning, and also a Hebrew scholar, was conse- 
quently only one of the translators of the New 
Testament, though, as the work was not previously 
printed, it generally is considered to have been 
his work alone. His predecessor, Abp. Donellan, 
must also receive a portion of the credit due for 
the valuable boon bestowed on their countrymen, 
the native Irish, as well as the other two eccle- 
siastics above mentioned,* with whom Daniel was 
associated in the work of translation. A. S. A. 
Richmond. 

If your correspondent, who desires information 
respecting the Archbishop of Tuam whose name 
is associated with the Irish New Testament, has 
not in his possession the Rev. Robert King's 
Primer of the Church History of Ireland, he may 
possibly be pleased with the following extract 
from that work, which, though not exactly con- 
taining the point to the elucidation of which his 
note was addressed, is still very useful for any one 
requiring a concise account of the translation of 
the Scriptures of the New Testament into the Irish 
language : 

" Of the individuals here mentioned [i. e. of those who 
were ' interesting themselves for the spiritual enlighten- 
ment and instruction of the Irish people through the 
m<dium of their own language'], the two who were 
foremost in the work were Nicholas Walsh, Chancellor, 
and John Kearney, Treasurer, of St. Patrick's, Dublin, 
two attached friends, who had also formerly been fellow 
students in the University of Cambridge. These two 
individuals were the first who introduced, in 1571, Irish 
types for printing into their native country, and obtained 
f <>m the Government an order that the prayers of th< 
Church should be printed in that character and Ian 
guage, and a church set apart in the shire town o 
every diocese where they should be read, and a sermon 
preached to the common people.. ..The Irish types and 
printing-press connected with them were provided by 
Queen Elizabeth at her own expense.... Mr. Kearney 
commenced his labours by composing an Irish catechism 
and primer, which formed the first book printed in Ire 
land in that character. Its title bears the date 1571 
boon after, Walsh and Kearney began to turn their atten 



on to the important work of translating the Holy 
criptures into the Irish language, and they accordingly 
ommenced at the New Testament in 1573. In 1577 
alsh was appointed Bishop of Ossory, but still proceeded 
n his undertaking until 1585, in which year he was 
murdered by a profligate wretch whom he had cited 
efore him for the crime of adultery. But, some years 
efore this, Nehemias Donellan, a Galway man, who 
Iso had been educated at Cambridge, and who was raised 
o the archbishopric of Tuam in May, 1595, had joined 
Valsh and Kearney in their undertaking. The transla- 
ion of the New Testament from Greek into Irish, com- 
nenced by these three individuals, find 'greatly approved 
f by Queen Elizabeth,' was at length completed by 
Villiam Daniel or O'Donel, successor of Donellan in the 
Tchiepiscopal see, and published in A.D. 1603, shortly 
fter the accession of King James I. The Book of Com- 
non Prayer was also translated into Irish, excepting the 
Jook of Psalms, and printed at the expense of Dr. 
)aniel in 1608, the year before that of his own transla- 
ion to the see of Tuam." King's Primer, vol. ii. bk. vi. 
>p. 779-781. 

ROBERT J. C. CONNOLLY, Clk. 
Kathangan, co. Kildare. 



pp*419 



Work *' edit 1739 



THE NICENE CREED (5 th S. v. 86, 154.) The 
jreed commonly called the Nicene Creed, and 
jailed so by several late correspondents in 
' N. & Q.," has been so much altered that it 
lardly deserves the name. It did not end with 
'I believe in the Holy Ghost," but with the 
inathemas. These are gone. It contained a clause 
.11 the early part which Athanasius regarded as the 
nost important in the Creed TOUT' ecrrtv K rrjs 
ov<ria<s TOV Trarpos. This is gone. Nor was the 
;hird part added at the Council of Constantinople, 
but was adopted at the Council of Chalcedon, from 
some creed not framed in any council. 

The Filioque in the third part is also an addi- 
ion by the Western Church, with no authority 
whatever in the original Greek. The word " Holy " 
has been omitted in the English translation. Other 
omissions, less essential, but still important, occur 
in the earlier part. A. P. S. 



(5 th S. iv. 443, 494 ; v. 17, 72, 113.) 
As it is quite clear that DUNELMENSIS and I 
shall never come to an agreement on the crucial 
points at issue in this discussion, I should have 
meddled in it no further but for the following, to 
me, most astonishing announcement : " I am 
willing to prove that rj8r] points to this being the 
first time they dared openly to do so," namely, to 
act " on the score of hatred " towards the Lacedae- 
monians. As opposed to which we are told, " MR. 
TEW'S translation certainly implies that the Athe- 
nians may or may not have acted previously on 
the score of hatred." 

Now to this statement, given hypothetically, I 
reply categorically thus. Whatever my transla- 
tion may imply, I am not only " willing," but shall 
proceed to " prove " that the Athenians did act 
" on the score of hatred," again and again, and 



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171 



that in the most open and undissembled manner, 
towards the Lacedaemonians, prior to the affair 
which your correspondent affirms was the first 
which gave rise to such a course. 

The facts of the case are briefly these. In the 
year B.C. 464, the time of the earthquake, the 
Lacedaemonian Helots, taking advantage of the 
general consternation, revolted from their masters, 
and took up arms against them. But, being 
worsted in the field, they threw themselves into 
the stronghold of Ithome. The Lacedaemonians 
formed a blockade, but, being unable to dislodge 
the insurgents, sought aid from their various allies, 
and among others the Athenians. But, finding 
that they made no better way than before, and 
becoming suspicious of the Athenians, as Thucy- 
dides puts it (i. c. 102), Seio-avregrwv'A^vatwi/ 
TO ToAprjpov KCU i/ewre/ooTToaav, they summarily 
dismissed them, under the pretext that they had 
no further need of their help. 

This so exasperated those at home, that, as 
Grote tells us (vol. iv. p. 71, 8vo. 1862), " They im- 
mediately passed a formal resolution to renounce 
the alliance between themselves and the Lacedse- 
monians against the Persians. They did more : 
they looked out for land enemies of Lacedsemon 
with whom to ally themselves." And as Argos 
was the first, " both in Hellenic rank and in real 
power," and, moreover, was the sworn foe of 
Sparta, they entered into a confederacy with that 
state. This would be in or about the year B.C. 
461, and is one instance in which the Athenians 
" dared openly to act on the score of hatred." 

After this transaction come the battles of JEgina 
and Megara, in both of which the Lacedaemonians, 
more or less, took a part. 

Next we have the battle fought near Tanagra, in 
which, as to who were the contending parties, 
there remains not the shadow of a doubt. In 
speaking of it Grote says : 

" Nor was it possible for the Lacedemonian army to 
return to Peloponnesus without fighting ; for the Athe- 
nians, masters of the Megarid, were in possession of the 
difficult high lands of Geraneia, the road march along 
the isthmus ; while the Athenian fleet, by means of the 
harbour of Pegae, was prepared to intercept'them if they 
tried to come by sea across the Krissaean Gulf, by which 
it would appear that they had come out. Near Tanagra 
a bloody battle took place between the two armies, 
wherein the Lacedaemonians were victorious," &c. 

Following upon this we have the battle of (Eno- 
phyta, resulting in the offensive operations of 
Tolmides on the Peloponnesian sea-board. " Her 
admiral, Tolmides," says Grote, "displayed her 
strength by sailing round Peloponnesus, and even 
by the insult of burning the Lacedaemonian ports 
of Methone and of Gythium." 

So, taking them altogether, we have just six 
instances in which the Athenians " dared openly 
to act on the score of hatred " against the Pelopon- 
nesians. And that all these were previous to the 



affair of the refugees from Ithome is patent from 
what Grote further tells us : "It was about the time 
of the destruction of the Athenian army in Egypt, 
and of the circumnavigation of Peloponnesus by 
Tolmides, that the internal war, carried on by the 
Lacedaemonians against the Helots at Ithome, 
ended." Immediately upon which, and as a con- 
sequence of it, the occurrence took place of which 
DUNELMENSIS says, " I am willing to prove that 
rjSrj points to this being the first time they dared 
openly to do so." 

He further tells us that, though " the hatred 
had been long smouldering in the breasts of the 
Athenians, the copestone was not put on until the 
enemies of the Spartans had been housed at Nau- 
pactus " ; and that " this coincides with the con- 
text, and gives great force to it." 

So the matter stands. It will now be for the 
readers of " N. & Q." to decide for themselves 
whether this was really the " copestone put on," 
or whether there had not been " copestones " put 
on before ; and. also whether this does "coincide 
with the context, and give great force to it." 

I. As to the first position. We have six in- 
stances in which the Athenians did show their 
hatred, and that in the most open and undisguised 
manner, towards the Lacedaemonians, namely : 
1. By breaking with them, and entering into alli- 
ance with their enemies, the Argeians. 2. In the 
battle of JEgina. 3. In the battle of Megara, 4. 
In the battle of Tanagra. 5. In the battle of 
OEnophyta ; and 6. In the burning of the two 
ports of Methone and Gythium, and other ravages 
committed by Tolmides on the Peloponnesian 
coast. 

II. On the second position. If it be contended 
that ch. 103* so coincides with ch. 102, of the first 
Book of Thucydides, as to form a continuous narra- 
tive, then I must respectfully submit that it does 
not ; but that between the two there is an interval 
of not less than six years, in which interval all 
those stirring events transpired which have been 
given in detail, and of which any single one, if I 
am not much mistaken, would be quite sufficient 
to prove my case, and to prove, in addition, that 
my translation does embody that which the ren- 
dering of DUNELMENSIS fails to do. 

It may be as well to mention that the respective 
dates of the dismissal of the Athenian troops from 
Ithome, and of the subsequent reception of the 
Messenian refugees, and their location in Naupac- 
tus, were B.C. 461 and B.C. 455. 



* The words dficary tra, in the beginning of the 
103rd chapter, are clearly indicative of some such an 
nterval between what follows and what had gone 
Before. Thucydides was only doing what is common 
with authors generally recording an event rather by 
mticipation than according to the proper course of 
ime. 



172 



NOTES 'AND QUERIES. 



[5 th S. V. FEB. 26, 76. 



The " immediate past," in my opinion, is the 
simple equivalent of just past, as opposed to what 
has passed " long ago." EDMUND TEW, M.A. 

THE ORDER OF THE CAMALDOLITES (5 th S. v. 
68.)-! transcribe the article " Camaldules " of 
the Encycloptdie, published by Diderot and 
D'Alembert (Paris, 1751) : 

" Ordre de religieux fondes (sic) par S. Romuald en 
1009. ou selon d'autres en 960 [or rather, I think, in 
10T2]. dans 1'horrible desert de Campo-maldoli, dans 
1't'tat de Florence, snr le mont Apennin. 

" Leur regie est celle de S. Berioit : par leurs statuts, 
leurs masons doivent etre eloignees au moins de cinq 
lieues des gr<mdes villes. 

" Les Camaldules ne porterent pas ce nom des les 
commencemens : jusqu'a la fin du onzieme siecle, on les 
appe'la Romualdins, du nom de leur fondateur. On 
n'appelloit alors Camaldules, que ceux qui habitoient 
dans le desert meme de Camaldoli ; et le P. Grandi 
observe que le nom de Camaldules ne leur vient pas de 
ce que leur premiere maison a ete etahlie a Campo-mal- 
doli, rnais de ce que la regie s'est maintenue dans cette 
maison sans de^cnerer, mieux que partnut ailleurs. II 
n'y a qu'une maison de Camaldtdes en France, pres de 
Gros-bois. 

" La congregation des hermites de S. Romuald, ou du 
mont de la Couronne, est une branclie de celle de Camal- 
doli, avec liiquelle elle s'unit en 1532. Paul Justinien 
de Venise cornmenca son etablissement en 15'20, etfonda 
le principal monastere dans 1'Apennin, en un lieu 
nomme le mont de la Couronne, a dix milles de Perouse. 
Enronius, Raynaldi, Sponde." 

I may add that the first monks of St. Romualdo 
simply followed the usual rules of life adopted by 
the Anchorites. They were submitted to the rule 
of St. Benoit only after their order had been 
recognixed by Pope Alexander III. (1072). In 
12 1-2 a convent of Camaldolites was founded by 
Father Laurent, under the patronage of St. Mi- 
chaelo, in a little island between Venice and Mu- 
rano. The order was reformed by Ambrosio d 
Portico, in the fifteenth century. The principal 
convents of Camaldolites, besides those mentioned 
in the Encyclopedie, were the convents of Torino 
Notre Dame de Capet (diocese of Vienne, France) 
and Notre Dame de la Consolation (diocese o: 
Lyons). These establishments disappeared in the 
last century, but the order was kept up at Carnal 
doll, and the monks who went to the kingdom o. 
Naples 0822) came from this place. Before the 
French Revolution there were in France twelve 
convents of women connected with the order o 
the Camaldolites, but under the superintendent 
and in the obedience of the bishops. 

The works referred to at the end of the articlv 
of the Encyclopedie are Annales Ecclesiastici, b\ 
Baronius, continued by Bzovius and by Raynaldu 
(Lucca, 1738-87, 38 vols. fo.); Epitome Anndtiun 
Acclesiasticorum Cardinalis Baronii, by Henri d< 
Sponde (Paris, 1612, fo.) ; Annalium Baroni 
tonhnuatio, attributed to the same De Spond 
(Pans, 1C39, 2 vols. fo.). A good edition of th 



omplete works of the latter has been published at 
>aris, 1639, 6 vols. fo. HENRI GAUSSERON. 
Ayr Academy. 

F. C. V. will find an account of the order in 
Helyot's History of the Monastic Orders. If he 
will also refer to Alban Butler's Lives of the Saints, 
he will find, prefixed to the life of St. Romuald, 
"^eb. 7, the titles of several works giving an ac- 
ount of this order. C. J. E. 

A book of Camaldolian dissertations was pub- 
ished by Guido Grandi, who was a monk of this 
jrder, which will probably give F. C. V. the infor- 
nation he requires as to the foundation, history, 
md rules of the order. E. K. 

' CONCERNING SNAKES IN ICELAND " (5 th S. v. 
S8.)_ In 1747 was published at Frankfurt and Leip- 
zig a 1 61110. volume, having on its title-page, " Herrn 
Johann Anderson, I.V.D. und weiland ersten 
3iirgermeisters der freyen Kayserl. Reichsstadt 
Hamburg, Nachrichten von Island, Gronland und 
der Strasse Davis," &c., a copy of which is now 
Before me. At p. 46 of this work begins ( 41) 
in account of the different kinds of owls found in 
;hose countries, which it is unnecessary for me to 
quote. At p. 116 the author, dealing with the 
inimal kingdom systematically (according to his 
lights), devotes a few lines ( 71) to snakes, 
which he says are wanting there, not from any 
property of the soil, but (and here he showed re- 
markable foresight), from the great distance of Ice- 
land from any continent, as well as from the cold. 
The general tone of the burgomaster's book was 
thought to reflect injuriously on these northern 
possessions of the Danish Crown, and accordingly 
in 1752 Niels Horrebow brought out as a corrective 
Tilforladelige Efterretninger om Island, &c. My 
copy of this work, also in 16mo., has only an en- 
graved title-page, on which the author's name 
does not appear, but it is appended to the dedi- 
cation to the King (Frederick V.), and the book, 
indeed, is well known to be Horrebow's. In his 
preface he says that his object is to set the public 
right (" At derfore Publicum kunde blive desabu- 
seret ") as to Anderson's misstatements, and accord- 
ingly he goes over the same, article by article 
(" hvorfore jeg folger samme Articul-vus"). On 
41 he bestows nearly half a page, striving to 
demolish Anderson's assertions, and concludes : 
" For this reason there is not a word to write on 
Icelandic owls ; since non Entis mdlce sunt offec- 
tiones" (p. 155). With regard to 71, he admits 
that Anderson was right, but disputes his reasons 
as to the absence of snakes, particularly in the 
matter of cold. 

Of Horrebow's book there is an English trans- 
lation, The Natural History of Iceland, &c. t 
London, 1758, folio, but by whom I do not know. 
The text is a good deal condensed ; and here it is 



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173 



that we have (p. 61) the famous and laconic 
" Chap. xlii. Concerning owls. There are no owls 
of any kind in the whole island " ; as well as (p. 91) 
the equally classic " Chap. Ixxii. Concerning 
snakes. No snakes of any kind are to be met with 
throughout the whole island." My story is now 
done, unless I add that I have a notion that these 
expressions were first made popular in England by 
the introduction of one or the other of them in an 
article in an early number either of the Edinburgh 
or Quarterly Review. ALFRED NEWTON. 

Magdalene College, Cambridge. 

The required chapter viz., Ixxii. of Neil 
Horrebow's Natural History of Norivay^ (London, 
1758, folio) relates to Iceland, and is headed 
" Concerning Snakes." The whole chapter is as 
follows : 

" No snakes of any kind are to be met with through- 
out the whole island"." P. 91. 

To this is appended a foot-note by the translator, 
I suppose in these words : 

" Mr. Anderson says it is owing to the excessive cold 
that no snakes are found in Iceland." 

Eric Pontoppidan has a similar chapter in his 
work on Iceland (London, 1755, folio), second part, 
chap. ii. : 

" Of Snakes and Insects. This article will be but short, 
for two reasons ; first, because the cold northern parts 
are less fruitful of them than the warmer countries, 
where the earth and air are better adapted for the 
peculiar contexture of the bodies of snakes and insects," 
&c. P. 34. 

And he describes several species of snakes. 

Horrebow's chapter is rightly quoted in Bos- 
well's Life of Johnson, 1811, vol. iii. p. 304. 

De Quincey gives the famous chapter to Yon 
Troil. See De Quincey's Wvrks (Black), vol. iv. 
p. 295. JABEZ. 

Athenasum Club. 

" LIBER VERITATIS" (5 th S. v. 68.) Perhaps 
this extract from, a catalogue I have just received 
from Mr. Downing of Birmingham may help to 
answer Y. S. M. : 

" Claude's Liber Veritatis : a Collection of 300 Prints 
after the original designs by Claude, with a Descriptive 
Catalogue, the names of those for whom they were 
painted, and of their present possessors, 3 vols., folio, 
half crimson morocco extra, full gilt backs, gilt leaves, 
a splendid copy, SI. 8s., published at 31 1. 10*., 1777-1804. 

" ' He had a fine feeling for beauty of form and consi- 
derable tenderness of perception. His aerial effects are 
unequalled. His seas are the most beautiful in old art. 
Claude took so much pains about this, feeling it was one 
of his fortes, that I suppose no one can model a small 
wave better than he.' Ruskin." 



Bexhill. 



C. F. S. WARREN, M.A. 



The following extract may prove useful to 
Y. S. M. in ganging the value of the copy he 
refers to : 



"14758. Claude de Lorrain's Liber Veritatis; or, r a 
Collection of 300 Prints after his original Designs, exe- 
cuted by R. Earlom in the Manner and Taste of the 
Drawings, 3 vols., folio, original proofs, superb impres- 
sions, russia super extra, gilt edges, 32. Boydell, 1777- 
1819." 

The above is taken from Mr. Bernard Quaritch's 
Catalogue of Works on the Fine Arts, dated 
April, 1873. The price may have gone up since 
that catalogue was issued. Y. S. M. will not fail 
to observe that Mr. Quaritch's copy is described as 
containing one, hundred prints more than the set of 
which he is desirous to ascertain the present money 
equivalent. CRESCENT. 

Wimbledon. 

I give the following prices from catalogues : 
Willis & Sotheran, 18622 vols., folio, 1777, calf 
gilt, 7Z. 7s. ; Lowndes's Bibliographers' Manual, 
a copy sold by Sotheby in 1826 2 vols., III. 5s. ;. 
Quaritch's Catalogue, 1875300 prints, 3 vols., 
folio, original proofs, russia gilt, 1777-1819, 32Z. 

C. J. 

" OCCAMY " OR " OCKAMY " (5 th S. IV. 468) IS, 

according to Nares, a compound metal meant to 
imitate silver ; a corruption of the word " alchemy." 
" Pilchards, which are but counterfets to herring, 
as copper to gold, or ockamie to silver." Nares 
gives also the quotation from the Guardian, and 
says that the word is not yet quite disused. 

H. F. WOOLRYCH. 

MR. WYLIE will, on referring to Bailey's Dic- 
tionary, find "ockamy," and, in the Imperial, 
" ochymy." The meaning is " a base or mixed 
metal." In the line he quotes he may take it to 
mean a " pewter spoon." J. B. A. 

See occamy, Halliwell's Dictionary; "accumie 
spunes," accomie, alcomye, Janiieson's Scot. Diet. ; 
alkamye (alcamyn), Promptorium Parv.; "a mixed 
metal supposed to be produced by alchemy, hence 
the name." Compare Milton, P. Lost, ii. 517 : 

" Then of their session ended they bid cry 
With trumpets' regal sound the great result. 
Toward the four winds four speedy cherubim 
Put to their mouths the sounding alchemy 
By herald's voice explained." 

0. W. T. 

Is there any connexion between this word and 
" Occamists," the name of a speculative sect that 
revived the tenets of Nominalism, and was formed 
by William Occam (or Ockham), a disciple of Duns 
Scotus, a member of the Franciscan Order in 
the fourteenth century ] H. S. 

Ockamy, ochimy, or ochymy, for it is variously 
spelt, was an alloy of copper, of a golden colour, 
of which spoons and other kitchen utensils were 
made. The word is a corruption of alchemy, which 
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the process by which it is produced. So Phineas 
Fletcher, quoted by Todd : 

"Such were his arms, false gold, true alchemy." 
Purple Island, vii. 39. 
J. H. I. OAKLEY. 

Skinner says, " Metallum quoddam mistum, 
colore argenti semulum, sed vilissimum, cor- 
ruptum a nostro alchymy." CHARLES VIVIAN. 

London. 

SCHIBA (5 th S. iv. 428)=n*att, flame, which 
Oesenius derives from an unused root, a sir, i. q. 
Arab, shabba, to kindle. R. S. CHARNOCK. 

Junior Garrick. 

NEED FIRE (5 th S. v. 48.) 
" The ready page, with hurried hand, 
Awak'd the need fire's slumbering brand." 

Lay of the Last Minstrel. 

" An improper and very oblique sense," says Dr. 
Jamieson. He says "neidfyre" is undoubtedly the 
same with (Alem.) notfyr, notfeur ; " coactus igne 
fricando " ; (Germ.) nodefyr, "ignis sacrilegus"; 
afire kindled on the eve of St. John by drawing a 
rope to and fro round a stake till it catches fire. 
In a council held 742, it was ordained that every 
bishop should take care that the people of God 
should not observe pagan rites ; " sive illos sacri- 
leges ignes, quos notfyres vocant " (Capitular. 
Karlomann, c. 5). Lindenbrog says, nodfeur, ne- 
cessary fire ; Spelman, A.-S. neod obsequium, 
homage to the deities ; Wachter, not, calamity ; 
but Jamieson prefers A.-S. nyd, force. W. G. 

The probable derivation of " need " is the Gcmiau 
notlt; thus they say in German, "noth hemd," "noth 
feur," &c. H. A. 0. 

1. Spontaneous ignition. S. (Bellenderi). 

2. The phosphoric light of rotten wood. S.A.= 
Scotia Australia, South of Scotland (Gl. Com- 
playnt). W. E. BUCKLEY. 

[See X. & Q.," 3 1 "' 1 S. ix. 175, 263, 285, 354, 478, 
516.] 

CABINET COUNCILS (5 th S. v. 29.) Lord Bacon, 
in his Essays on Councils, Civil and Moral, under 
the head oP' Counsel," after describing the evils 
which arise from consulting Councillors, says, " For 
which inconveniences, the doctrine of Italy, and 
the practice of France, in some kings' times, hath 
introduced Cabinet Councils ; a remedy worse than 
the disease." He evidently spoke from practical 
experience. EDWARD SOLLY. 

I find no earlier instance of the use of this phrase 
than that in Evelyn's Memoirs, vol. ii. p. 295 

8) ; but " cabinet " (in the sense of " closet ") was 
used as an adjective, to express secrecy, by Thomas 
Watson, m his God's Anatomy of Man's Heart 
p. 4, 1649 : 

" The most secret cabinet-designs of man." 



I have not found "cabinet" as a substantive, in 
the sense of an Inner Privy Council, in any earlier 
writer than Macaulay. HENRY H. GIBBS. 

St. Dunstan's, Regent's Park. 

See Haydn's Dictionary of Dates. 

FREDK. RULE. 

"THE PRESENT STATE or LONDON "(5 th S. v. 9, 
75.) Of this book, to which MR. PATTERSON 
refers, I have a copy complete, and certainly it is 
very quaint and interesting. The author of 

"The Present State of London; or, Angliae Metro- 
polis, comprehending a Full and Succinct Account of 
the Ancient and Modern State thereof; its original 
Government, Rights, Liberties, Charters, Trade, Cus- 
toms, Priviledges, and other Remarkables," &c., 

is Thomas Delaune. 

" Printed by C. L. for John Harris, at the Harrow, 

in the Poultry, and Thomas , in George Yard, in 

Lumbard Street." 

I shall feel great pleasure in lending the book 
to MR. PATTERSON if he would like to inspect it. 

D. F. KENNARD. 

Wester Hill, Linton, near Maidstone. 

[See a note on this work in our last volume, p. 106, by 
DR. RIMBAULT.] 

PRE-REFORMATION CHURCH PLATE (5 th S. v. 48, 
76, 98, 137.) Perhaps the following extract from 
a letter which appeared in the (Dublin) Daily 
Express of Nov. 10, 1873, may be of interest in 
this connexion : 

" In my parish of Templeport, diocese of Kilmore, there 
is a chalice still in use with the date inscribed A.D. 1529. 
It has alsi; at its bass f.1-. P Greek ca^k^!? for ' iota : eta, 
sigma,' the contracted method of writing the name 
Jesus ; and it may be supposed that it was in conse- 
quence of there being some similarity, to a cursory ob- 
server, between the capital Greek ' eta' and our letter 
H, that the more modern anagram ' I. H. S.' may have 
originated. It is interesting to remember that this relic 
of our ancient Church of Ireland was in use for its holy 
purpose one year previous to the Diet of Augsburg, and 
four years previous to the Pope's excommunication of 
Henry VIII. I am, Sir, F. A. SANDERS. 

" Templeport Rectory, Bawnboy, co. Cavan, Nov. 8, 
1873." 

T. W. C. 

" THE ANCIENT MARINER " (5 th S. v. 89.) I 
am happy to be able to furnish your correspondent 
MR. ALFRED JEWELL with the cancelled stanza of 
The Ancient Mariner for which he inquires. It 
appears in the version of that wondrous poern 
published in Wordsworth's Lyrical Jlailads, and 
is as follows : 

" His bones were black with many a crack, 

All black and bare I ween ; 
Jet black and bare, save where with rust 
Of mouldy damps and charnel crust 

They were patch' d with purple and green." 

To me it seems that the advantage of cancelling 
so powerful a stanza is far less decided than that 
secured in the removal of the thirteenth stanza in 



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Part III., which was printed as late as the issue 
of the Sibylline Leaves (1817), and which may 
perhaps be as interesting to your correspondent, 
and to other readers of " N. & Q.," as the one 
first erased : 
" A gust of wind sterte up behind, 

And whistled through his bones; 

Through the holes of his eyes and the hole of his 
mouth, 

Half whistles and half groans." 

May I tack on to this reply a query ? Why 
are the sheets of Sibylline Leaves, a book in one 
volume, all marked at foot " vol. ii." 1 Perhaps a 
student of Coleridge ought to know this without 
asking. If so, pity and forgive my ignorance. 

H. BUXTON FORMAN. 

I have before me the first printed copy of The 
Ancient Mariner, which appeared in a volume of 
Lyrical Ballads by Wordsworth, printed for J. & 
A. Arch, Gracechurch Street, 1798 ; and I find 
that the stanza referred to, in Part III., which 
precedes the words " Her lips are red," is there as 
follows : 

" His bones are black with many a crack, 

All black and bare I ween ; 
Jet black and bare, save where with rust 
Of mouldy damps and charnel crust 
They 're patch'd with purple and green." 

But throughout Part III. there are many altera- 
tions. W. M. T. 

" TRIA MIRANDA ! OMNES CHRISTIAN:," &c. 
(5 th S. v. 88.) The verses quoted by MR. PRES- 
LEY have no reference to the Crimean war, but 
date back to the year 1682-3, when the Turks in- 
vaded Europe in support of Tekeli. When Vienna 
was menaced, Louis XIV., whose jealousy of the 
house of Hapsburg rendered him somewhat un- 
scrupulous as to the means employed for abasing 
it, did his utmost to detach John Sobieski from 
the Austrian alliance. His chagrin at the success 
of Sobieski's advance to the relief of the city, and 
at the issue of the battle of Kahlenberg, gave rise 
to this pasquinade, which is quoted at p. 156 of a 
translation of K. A. Schimmer's Sieges of Vienna, 
by the Turks, published by Murray in 1847. 

MOTH. 

EDGAR ALLAN POE (5 th S. v. 88.) In a work 
published in New York in 1856, entitled The 
Works of the late Edgar Allan Poe, it was stated 
that his father was originally a law student, and that 
he eventually eloped with an English actress named 
Elizabeth Arnold. He himself became an actor, 
and performed, together with his wife, in various 
cities in the United States, for upwards of eight 
years. At length his wife and he died, within a 
very short time of each other, leaving three chil- 
dren entirely destitute. Their second son, Edgar, 
was born at Baltimore in 1811, and was adopted 
by a wealthy merchant, one Mr. John Allan, who. 



on account of his reckless disposition, eventually 
cast him off. Being once more left without money,, 
he took to literary pursuits in order to gain a live- 
lihood. He finally died at Baltimore on Oct. 7, 
1849. I think this statement will somewhat coin- 
cide with that quoted by MR. MATTHEWS. 

W. S. 
Manchester. 

OLD SCHOOL BOOK (5' h S. v. 68.) If J. T. F, 
will refer to S. T. P.'s communication (5 th S. iv. 
498), he will obtain the information he requires. 

FREDK. RULE. 

BRIDGES'S "NORTHAMPTONSHIRE" (5 th S. v. 86.) 
I have the first volume, less the first twelve 
pages. Has any one the last two volumes to part 
with, or a wish to purchase what I have ? If so, 
particulars. J. C. 

Amersham. 

PRIVILEGES OF REGIMENTS (5 th S. v. 109.) 
Since the plain blue frock coat for undress, with 
sash round the waist, was done away with (about 
twenty-five years ago), I cannot recollect having 
seen any regimental officer in uniform showing a 
shirt collar, except with the evening mess dress. 
No provision is made in the last issued " Dress 
Regulations for the Army," 1874, for collars, or 
even for shirts. But where the blue undress coat 
has a rolling collar, as in the case of staff officers 
and some others, the white shirt collar is probably 
understood. CLARRY'S tailor must surely be ro- 
mancing. A regiment on active service would 
have some difficulty in appearing daily on parade 
in clean shirt collars. 

I remember that, on arriving at a certain station 
in India in 1859, a European presented himself 
dressed in a cap cover, shirt, and trousers (no 
jacket) which were once white, and having a big 
stick and a lot of dogs, and bearing a despatch for 
our commanding officer. On receiving the despatch, 
the commanding officer, being impressed with the 
remarkable appearance of the soldier, asked to- 
what regiment he belonged, and whether his was 
its usual uniform. On being told that it was so,, 
the commanding officer also inquired whether it 
was the privilege of the corps to omit the saluting 
of officers as well as to dispense with coats. It is 
possible that, in commemoration of good old days, 
when they only wore shirts, the gallant fellows- 
now show a shirt collar above the coat. They 
were familiarly known, during the Mutiny, as the 
Roughs and Toughs " ; and both rough and tough 
the mutineers found them to be. C. B. 

" COMMENTARIE UPON THE EPISTLE TO THE 

GALATIANS " (5 th S. v. 88.) I think there can be 
no doubt but this is 

' A Commentarie of M. J. Caluine vpon the Epistle 
to the Galathians : And translated into English by R. V. 
London, 1581." 



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It must, however, not be confounded with Cal- 
vin's Sermons upon the Epistle to the Galathians, 
translated by Arthur Golding, and published 1574. 

G. W. NAPIER. 

Alderley Edge. 

Probably MR. SIMON'S book is another edition 
of A Commmtarie of M. Doctor Martin Luther 
upon the Epistle of S. Paul to the Galathians, 
London, 1602, 4to., a copy of which is in this 
library. CHARLES MADELEY. 

The'Museum, Warrington. 

WEATHER HOLES (5 th S. v. 88.) I know some- 
what of the Malverns and the especial part DR. 
BUCHIIEIM alludes to. I never heard of a weather 
hole, or wind hole, or anything of the like nature. 
The Wych is a cutting through the Malvern chain 
between the Worcestershire Beacon and Well Hill, 
a work of some ability when executed for the pur- 
pose of a then new road. Onwards towards Led- 
bury, at the base of the Herefordshire Beacon, is 
the Wind's Point, an exposed situation, where it 
is said " the wind always blows." This may, per- 
haps, have been the foundation of DR. BUCHHEIM'S 
friend's belief. J. C. 

Amerskam. 

PASTORAL STAFF AT DOL (5 th S. v. 89.) Mrs. 
Palliscr, in her Brittany and its Byeways, p. 31, 
says, " Over the high altar is an enormous wooden 
crozier, from which the Host is suspended." She 
probably means that in earlier days, before " taber- 
nacles " came into general use, the pyx containing 
the reserved Sacrament was suspended from this 
croxier. This was formerly the custom in England 
al>o, as is shown by the demand of the Devonshire 
rebels in the time of Edward VI., " We will have 
the Sacrament hang over the high altar, as it was 
wont to be." T. F. E, 

"THE CURSE OF KIRKSTALL ABBEY" (5 th S. v. 
SO.) WILFRID OF GALWAY will find all particu- 
lars about Kirkstall Abbey in a pamphlet, entitled 
Mary, the Maid of the Inn ; or, The Murder at the 
A hbey, published by J. Johnson, opposite the Corn 
Exchange, Leeds, price Id. c () /JaSio-njs. 

('OMETS (5* S. iv. 146, 252.)-Again returnino- 
to the superstitious terrors inspired by comets it 
is related of Louisa of Savoy (mother of Francis I 
r ranee), that a few days before she died durino- 
wakeful night, she was disturbed by a lustrous 
light illuminating the chamber. Ordering the 
curtains of her bed to be undrawn, it was dis- 
covered that the extraordinary brightness was 
caused by a comet. Ah ! she exclaimed, this 
is a phenomenon that appears not for persons of 
ordinary condition ! Shut the window ; it is a 



Under the impression that the comet was the 



herald of a speedy dissolution, the following morn- 
ing she sent for her confessor. The physicians 
assuring her that there was no foundation for her 
fears, she replied, " If I had not seen the signal 
for my death I could believe you, for I do not 
feel myself exhausted." She died on the third 
day after the event, under this fatal belief. 

CH. ELKIN MATHEWS. 
Codford St. Mary. 

EDWARD VI. AS A FOUNDER (5 th S. iv. 289, 
335, 356.) By the statute 1 Edward VI. c. 14, 
the lands and property belonging to chantries, 
colleges, guilds, and fraternities were conferred on 
the king, that he might employ them in providing 
for the poor, augmenting the income of vicarages, 
paying the salaries of preachers, and endowing 
free schools for the diffusion of learning. On this 
statute Heylyn says : 

" There being accounted 90 Colleges within the com- 
pass of that grant (those in the Universities not being 
reckoned in that number), and no fewer than 2374 free 
chapels and chantries," " we must attend the King's 
(1518) Commissioners, dispatched in the beginning of 
March into every shire throughout the realm to take a 
survey of all colleges, free chapels, chantries, and brother- 
hoods within the compass of the statute or Act of 
Parliament ; according to the return of whose com- 
missions it would be found no difficult matter to put a 
just estimate and value on so great a gift, or to know 
how to parcel out, proportion, and divide the spoil 
betwixt all such who h=id before in hope devoured it." 
Hist, of the Reformation, Ecc. Hist. Soc., vol. i. pp. 103, 

"The revenues [of the colleges, &c.], it was alleged, 
were to be employed in founding schools, in maintaining 
the poor, and for other salutary purposes; but in fact 
the property of the schools and the poor was taken away, 
find of all that had been promised nothing was done. 
The suppressed establishments fell for the most part into 
the hands of the courtiers, and all those who had 
plundered the clergy, and would willingly have plun- 
dered them again, supported these measures under all 
kinds of religious pretext." Von Raumer, Political 
Hint, of England, English translation, voi. i. p. 07. 

Miss Toulmiu Smith says that the destruction 
of the English guilds and the confiscation of their 
property under this statute were so complete, and 
they were so ruined and swept away, that the 
names and existence of many of them have been 
forgotten. And she adds, in a note, as the opinion 
of her father, 

" A case of pure wholesale robbery and plunder, done 
by an unscrupulous faction to satisfy their personal greed, 
under cover of law. No more gross case of wanton 
plunder can be found in the history of all Europe ; no 
page so black in English history." English Guilds, 
E. E. T. S., Introduction, xlii. 

Your correspondents have told us how many 
schools were founded by Edward VI., or rather by 
the council who acted in the name of the boy- 
king. Now, it would be very satisfactory to learn 
how many chantries, colleges, guilds, &c., were 
suppressed under this statute, what was the value 
of their property, and what became of it. Pro- 



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bably they can oblige us with this information, 
that we may compare it with the number of 
schools founded. S. W. T. 

THE BALL-FLOWER ORNAMENT (5 th S. iv. 327, 
391.) There are several plants whose partially 
expanded flower buds may, I think, have sug- 
gested the idea. Take, for example, those of the 
yellow water-lily, Nuphar lutea ; the globe flower, 
Trolius Europaus; or the hellebore, Helleborus 
fcetidus. The fruit of the pomegranate is only 
cloven on one side it is the badge or bearing of 
Arragon, not, I think, of Castile. I cannot see 
the resemblance to a hawk's bell, which is usually 
globular, with one slit, and perforations. The 
flower buds I have mentioned are much more like 
the ornament in question than the seed capsule of 
Eeseda. W. J. BERNHARD SMITH. 

Temple. 

E. BRANDON, THE EXECUTIONER OF CHARLES I. 
(5 th S. v. 46, 76, 135.) I fear Sheffield, has no 
chance in competition with Whitechapel, London, 
as the burial-place of this servant of the State. 
There is more than one tract giving circum- 
stantial accounts of E. Brandon's death, June 20, 
1649, and his interment in Whitechapel Church- 
yard, "on Thursday night last," i. e., following the 
50th of June, 1649. If DUNELMENSIS will obtain 
in the British Museum Library The Last Will and 
Testament of Richard Brandon, Esq. (E. 561/12) ; 
The Confession of Richard Brandon (E. 561/14) ; 
A Dialogue, or a Dispute betweene the late Hang- 
man and Death (669, f. 14/51) ; An Exact and 
Impartial Accompt, &c. (E. 1047/3), p. 129, he 
will have full satisfaction on this point. Or he 
may find, in the " Catalogue of Satirical Prints 
and Drawings in the British Museum," abstracts 
of these tracts, Nos. 760, 761, 762, and references 
to many other sources of information. Cunning- 
ham's Handbook of London, 1850, p. 352, states 
that there is an entry in the burial register of 
Whitechapel Churchyard, giving the date of the 
interment as June 21, 1649. This is probably a 
misprint for the 24th of that month ; the latter 
date is given in a similar statement in Curiosities 
of London, by J. Timbs, 1867, p. 187. See Sir H. 
Ellis's Letters on English History, second series, 
vol. iii. E. 561/14 is dated, in Thomason's (?) 
handwriting, "June 25, 1649"; this is, pre- 
sumably, the date when that blessed bookseller, 
tract-collector, and citizen of London obtained the 
Confession. The Last Will bears, in the same 
script, the same date ; A Dialogue is dated 
"July 3" (1649?). Let DUNELMENSIS consult 
E. 526/24 ; 669, f. 4/24 ; E. 121/42 ; E. 1842/2. 

F. G. STEPHENS. 
Hammersmith. 

[For further particulars in reference to this subject 
ee " N. & Q., I" S . ii. 72, 110, 140, 158, 268, 347; v. 
28, 118; vi. 197 (in "Tyburnian Gleanings," 2 nd S. xi. 



446, by DR. RIMBADLT, will be found also particulars of 
Gregory Brandon, the father, and predecessor in the 
post of chief executioner, of Richard) ; 2 nd S. ix. 41 ; xi. 
446 ; 3 rd S. vii. 220; 4 th S. iii. 422.] 

" LAST OF THE STUARTS " (5 th S. iv. 484, 524 ; 
v. 110.) Such monumental assertions are very 
common in Italy. I have met with several. One 
of these lasts may be seen in the church of St. 
Peter, at Rome. Another may be found at Rome 
in the church of St. Lorenzo in Lucina. The in- 
scription is as follows : 

" Charles Stuart, last of his race. Obt. 1865. Age, 86." 
I presume from the language that he was 
English or Scotch ; but who was he, and what was 
he as to rank or station ? 

JAMES HENRY DIXON. 

LOUISE LATEAU (5 th S. iv. 513 ; v. 55, 78, 117.) 
Although the curtain is dropped on this " strange 
eventful history," I have yet three items to add, 
which should, I think, render the " N. & Q." biblio- 
graphy of her nearly complete : 

1. " Louise Lateau,d-ie Stigmatisirte von Bois d'Haine. 
Nach. authentischen Medicinischen und Theologischen 
Documenten fiir Juden und Christen aller Bekenntnisse." 
Dargestellt von Professor Dr. August Rohling. Pader- 
born, F. Schoningh, 1874. 

2. " Louise Lateau et la Science Allemande." Par 
1'Abbe N. J. Cornet. Bruxelles, 1874. 

3. " La Stigmatisation et les L ibres Penseurs." An 
article published by Dr. Irnbert Gourbeyre in L' Univers. 

APIS. 

HERALDIC (5 th S. v. 109.) The shield men- 
tioned by MR. WALKER appears to be intended 
for Russell quartering Cromwell, and quarterings ; 
and the crests are, 1st, Russell ; 2nd, Cromwell. 
The motto is that used by the Protector. The 
arms borne by John Russell, of Thruxton, whose 
son married the daughter and heiress of Mr. Oliver 
Cromwell, are thus blazoned in Strong's Heraldry 
of Herefordshire : Arg., a chevron betw. 3 crosses 
crosslet fitchee sable, within a bordure eng. gu. 
bezante"e ; crest, a demi-lion ramp, arg., holding a 
cross crosslet fitchee sable. 

For Cromwell, see Visitation of Huntingdon- 
shire, 1613, printed by the Camden Society ; 
Noble's Memoirs of the Cromwell Family ; Prest- 
wich's Eespublica; Burke's Commoners, Landed 
Gentry, &c. H. S. G. 

Stourbridge. 

BATH ABBEY (5 th S. v. 134.) It is much to be 
feared that, during the improvements and altera- 
tions in this church of late years, much in- 
jury has been done to the cenotaphs and monu- 
ments placed therein. I remember seeing the 
tablet erected to my grandfather when in Bath 
twenty years ago, but I have sought for it in vain 
lately. Who is responsible for clerical vandalism ? 

ROSSENSIS. 



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" OLD MAIDS LEADING APES IN HELL " (4 th S. ii. 

459 ; iv. 132.) This phrase, the late Mr. Dyce told 
me, never would be explained ; he and so many 
critics had, I suppose, tried in vain at it. But 
" never " is a long time, and if we register all the 
Middle-English uses of ape, we shall hit on the 
needed explanation some day. In a very rare 
tract, in Peterborough Cathedral library, The Pas- 
sionate Morrice which follows, and is seemingly 
part of, Tdl-TrothesNew-Yeares Gift, 1593,* though 
it has fresh signatures (no title, epistle on A 2, B to 
I in fours) is a passage that may throw light on 
the phrase above. A bachelor woos a widow. 
She, not knowing what money he has, puts him 
off, saying she '11 inquire about him, which she 
afterwards does by a broker. Objection is made 
to her blunt speech and inquiry ; but Honesty 
defends her : 

'' But, tut ! I like her the better, because she could not 
dissemble ; for she, alas ! did but follow the common 
trade, dooing with the ape but what she had seene done 
before her. She had heard her husband instruct his 
prentices to make a profit, and she thought she might 
trie the same for her own good." 

In fact, she found the bachelor hadn't enough 
money, and so she put him off continually, and 
then refused him. 

Now, if ape is used above as equivalent to a 
wooing bachelor, and old maids are supposed to 
have become so from having refused offers, we 
can get a reason why they should " lead apes in 
hell." No doubt other instances can be produced 
by " X. & Q." readers to show the old usage of 
"ape." F. J. FURNIVALL. 

COIN IMPRESSIONS ON BELLS (5 th S. iv. 306, 
473 ; v. 137.) These are not of the slightest his- 
torical value. All they prove is that the bell is of 
later date than the coins. They are not confined 
to any locality nor to any particular foundry, 
being found all over England and on mediaeval 
bells. Edwardian coins often occur. They are 
not real coins, but merely impressions made in the 
mould by the workman, who for a mere whim 
probably took the coin from his pocket, where he 
may have carried it as a curiosity. Impressions of 
foreign coins are sometimes found ; and on some 
bells in Devon at Ottery St. Mary and St. Martin, 
Exeter satirical medals may be seen, produced in 
the same way. 

If EAGLE has never seen bell-moulding, he had 
better introduce himself he will be civilly ad- 
mitted by any of our founders and if he calls at 
the right time he will be allowed to impress any 
com he likes on the mould, which he would after- 
wards allow the obliging workman to put into his 
own pocket, as a good tale to be told over a pot of 
beer many a day afterwards. H. T. E. 

* Both tracts are now in the press for the New ShalT- 
spere society. 



REV. DR. LAMBE (5 th S. iv. 308, 392, 418, 492 ? 
520.) MR. BOYD calls him " Dr."; but is not this 
a mistake 1 I think he was not a graduate but a 
literate , sent for ordination by some schoolmaster. 






NOTES ON BOOKS, &o. 

Memoir and Correspondence, of Caroline Herschel. 

By Mrs. John Herschel. With Portraits. 

(Murray.) 

THE story of Cinderella is an old story with not a 
bad moral, and it comes to us from the East. 
The old romance has been recalled to mind by the 
still more interesting and altogether truthful nar- 
rative of the life of Caroline Herschel, " Herschel's 
sister." One of a numerous family in Hanover, 
the head of which was in a military band, 'Lina 
was the drudge the cheerful drudge of the 
household. She was cheerful and happy because 
she helped to make others so. The little maid 
was sometimes whipt for shortcomings, not out of 
cruelty, but custom, which favoured a stinging 
discipline rather than mild rebuke or remonstrance, 
and such training never did her any harm. Like 
Cinderella, she sat among the ashes, but, though 
she did not marry a prince, she came to be one to 
whom princes, and even higher characters in life's 
drama, delighted to render honour. In her early 
modest home, kept neat by her daily toil, toil 
that kept the dwellers neat as well as the dwelling, 
she earned no wage and as little praise, so tho- 
roughly was her labour taken as a matter of course ; 
but she lived to be appointed by King George III. 
astronomical assistant to her illustrious brother, at 
a salary of 501. per annum, which was a sum too 
great for her to know what to do with. Finally, 
she, who had swept her own home clean for years, 
ended by sweeping the heavens, and by aid of her 
" sweeper " discovered eight comets ! When we 
read the biography of such a person, we can 
understand the almost exclusive interest which 
many people take in biographical details alone. 
Self-sacrifice to 'Lina Herschel was not merely a 
pleasure or a duty, it was a thing done without 
thinking about it. When she joined her brother 
at Bath, he was a well-to-do teacher of music and 
conductor of concerts ; but his ear was withdrawn 
from ordinary music to study that of the spheres, 
and his eye, unattracted by the sight of a good 
book at his banker's, went away searching into 
the depths of the heavens, and 'Lina was for half 
a century his willing and earnest helper. She 
became an astronomer while she was his house- 
keeper, picking up from her brother at brief meal- 
times now a bit of algebra, then a scrap of mathe- 
matics, and making such application of her know- 
ledge that she constructed the pasteboard model 
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not only helped her brother to go onward beyond 
the " patines of bright gold," with which the visi- 
ble floor of heaven is studded, but, as before said, 
swept the heavens on her own account, and brought 
eight comets to the knowledge of delighted astro- 
nomers of all countries. It may be said that by 
over-watching in the open air, in cruel nights, her 
brother, Sir John Herschel, shortened his valuable 
life. 'Lina watched and worked with him without 
suffering. After fifty years of such watching and 
working, with endless labour besides to lessen that 
of her brother, and not without some wrenches of 
the heart now and then, Caroline Herschel, on 
that brother's death, returned to Hanover. She 
lived there on past memories, but she never gave 
up her human sympathies, nor affected to despise 
the amusements of life, which did not render that 
life intolerable to her ; but as in the youthful 
period, and in the more mature time, so as the 
Inevitable approached, Caroline Herschel's first 
thoughts and readiest acts and energies were for 
others, with a happily toned resignation to what- 
ever might affect herself. At the age of ninety- 
eight, in the year 1848, she " fell asleep," dreaming 
to the last of solar systems and comets, and leaving 
as part of the epitaph she composed for her own 
grave, mention of her "participation in the im- 
mortal labours of her brother, William Herschel." 
If unselfishness ever gave right to canonization, 
Caroline Herschel would deservedly rank among 
the saints. 

A Cruise in the BospJiorus, and in the Marmora, and 
JEgean Seas. By Rev. Geo. Fyler TWnsend, M.A. 
(Published under the Direction of the Committee of 
General Literature and Education, S.P.C.K.) 
THIS pleasant little record of a holiday tour amid memo- 
rable scenes derives additional interest, not only from 
the timeliness of its appearance, when so much attention 
is being directed to the affairs of the Sublime Porte, but 
also from some exceptional circumstances in Mr. Towns- 
end's travel. It is not every tourist who can bring back 
word how he was received at the palaces of the occupant 
of the " (Ecumenical Throne " of the New Rome and of 
the Armenian Patriarch in Constantinople. At the 
Greek Patriarch's residence, Mr. Townsend found among 
the clergy one of those very intelligent foreigners who 
" always read the Times and like England." At both 
Patriarchates our author, under the guidance of Mr. 
Curtis, the Chaplain of the English Memorial Church at 
Pera, found the Oriental clergy full of good-will towards 
his Communion. Mr. Townsend does not appear to have 
studied Eastern ritual, or he would not have been so 
puzzled as he seems to have been at observing " no visible 
consecration " during a Greek liturgy which he attended. 
And it is a pity that he did not seek for some higher 
source of information than a domestic servant before 
hazarding the assertion, though in a qualified form, that 
" the only Communion among the Greeks is at Easter" 
(pp. 97, 98). We could also have wished that Mr. 
Townsend's " Past History of Constantinople " (chap, i.) 
had shown some trace of an acquaintance with the late 
Mr. Finlay's great work. He would not then have told 
us that the " Byzantine Empire " is the " common 
historical appellation " of Constantinople. There was. 
indeed, a time when the Empire had almost dwindled 



to the lordship of the New Rome, and that not undis- 
puted by the Genoese and other Western settlers in 
Galata. But this was in the last days of its existence, 
and when not even the valour of Constantine Palseologus 
could save the city of Constantine the Great from falling 
a sure prey to the victorious advance of that enemy 
whom the much-abused " Greeks of the Lower Empire " 
had so long kept at bay. 

The Literature of the Kymry : "being a Critical Essay on 
the Language and Literature of Wales during the 
Twelfth, and Two Succeeding Centuries. Containing 
numerous Specimens of Ancient Welsh Poetry in the 
Original, accompanied with English Translations. By 
Thomas Stephens. Second Edition. Edited, with the 
Author's Additions and Corrections, by the Rev. D. 
Silvan Evans, B.D. With a Life of the Author, by 
B. T. Williams, Esq., Q.C. (Longmans.) 
WE should be inclined to say that this, the great work of 
one of the greatest men among the Kymry, will see many 
a future edition. It is introduced with an admirable 
biographical sketch of the author (who has been dead 
little more than a year), without which, and the careful 
editing of Mr. Silvan Evans, the volume would have been 
incomplete. Of Stephens, a self-made man, and man in 
the best sense of the word, the Kymry should be proud, 
for his sole object was truth. In establishing that, he 
found Arthur a fable, Taliesin wearing laurels belonging 
to some one else, Madoc without claim to having dis- 
covered America, and the massacre of the bards a fiction. 
Stephens, however, as this most valuable work shows, 
has no difficulty in proving that the Kymry possessed 
glories, literary and otherwise, which cannot be dis- 
puted ; yet his countrymen hardly forgive him for de- 
priving them of their mock suns, although he leaves 
them the genuine glorious luminary, the light of noble 
deeds rendered by noble men. We have seldom read a 
book on such a subject with equal satisfaction. 

On the Existence of Mixed Languages : being an Exami- 
nation of the .Fundamental Axioms of the Foreion 
School of Modern Philology, more esptcially as applied 
to the English. By J. Cresswell Clough. (Longmans.) 
MR. CLOUGH, in this prize essay, admits that "many 
philologists will regard the whole of it as a mistake, since 
they have expressly declared a mixed language to be an 
impossibility." The author's conclusion is that this so- 
called " self-evident truth " is contrary to the fact, that 
" English is pre-eminently a mixed language, and keeps 
pace with the times, and, owing to peculiarities of forma- 
tion and of mixture, has become what it is, the most 
used language in the world, has produced the greatest 
modern authors, and has the greatest future before it." 

A General History of Greece, from the Earliest Period to 

the Death of Alexander the Great. With a Sketch of 

the Subsequent History to the Present Time. By 

George W. Cox, M.A. (Longmans.) 

THE well-appreciated author of Tales of A ncient Greece 

and Mythology of Aryan Nations has told the history of 

Greece in these seven hundred pages in a way to win 

and keep the interest of all readers. Never, perhaps, has 

the rare art of condensation, without sacrifice of any 

important point, been so successfully carried out as in 

this attractive volume. 

MESSRS. ROUTLEDGE have forwarded to us the first 
three numbers of a folio reprint of Ormerod's History of 
Cheshire. It is edited by Thomas Helsby, Esq , of Lin- 
coln's Inn. It is not necessary to expatiate on the great 
value of this work, which will now have some important 
additions to the original. We hope to report of future 
numbers that they realize the promise given in those now 
before us. 



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SAMUEL ROWLANDS. The Council of the Hunterian 
Club Glasgow, ask for information as to any of the fol- 
lowing works by this author, so that they may have 
them copied and reprinted, and thus complete the Club s 
edition of Rowlands's works : Rowlands's A Theatre of 
Delightful Recreation, 4to., 1605 (the editor of Percy's 
Reliques 1812, says that a copy of this work was then in 
his possession. " This is a book of poems on subjects 
chiefly taken from the Old Testament ") ; Democritvs, or 
Dr. Merry-man, 4to., 1607 ; Six London Gossips, &c., 
1607 (mentioned in the Harleian Catalogue) ; Guy Marie 
ofWaru-id-e, Lond.,by Edward All-de, 4to., n.d. (said to 
have been sold among Mr. Fulke Grevill's books. The 
second edition, 1607, was sold with the White Knights 
books, 1819). Information should be sent to Mr. John 
Alexander, 79, Regent Street, West, Glasgow, Hon. 
Treasurer and Secretary. F. J. FURNIVALL. 

AN ENGLISH EMPRESS. MB. H. BOWER writes to us : 
" Just at present the dedication of The Faerie Queene 
is both curious and interesting : ' To the Most High, 
Mightie, and Magnificent Emperesse, Renovried for 
Pietie, Vertve, and all Graciovs Government : Elizabeth, 
By the Grace of God, Queene of England, France, and 
Ireland, and of Virginia, Defender of the Faith, &c., 
her Most Humble Seruaunt, Edmund Spenser, doth in 
all humilitie,' &c. (ed. 1612). Has the title of emperor 
ever been given to any of the English sovereigns .-" 

THE " Life of John Forster " may be read in the New- 
castle Daily Chronicle of Feb. 15. It is by Mr. W. 
Lockey Harle, who knew the late Mr. Forster well, from 
his humble boyhood to late in life. It is an excellent 
sketch, containing as much in two columns as may be 
often found spreading through two volumes. Our best 
thanks are ottered to the correspondent who kindly for- 
warded to us a copy of the Chronicle. 

FROM the Oxford University Press Warehouse (Pater- 
noster Row, London) has just been issued " The Smallest 
Prayer Book in the World." It is a complete Prayer 
Book, weighs just under an ounce, measures three and a. 
half inches in length, two and an eighth in breadth, and 
a quarter of an inch in thickness, is printed on India 
paper, and it forms a companion volume to the " Smallest 
Bible in the World," recently issued from the same press. 

MR. J. MANUEL on " Heraldry, &c., Scotland," 5 th S. iii. 
249,439, writes :" Since my last hereon, a fortunate 
reference to 4 th S. i. 6, enables me to state that Font's 
MSS. are preserved in the Advocates' Library, Edin- 
burgh, a note of which may yet be of service to your 
correspondent." 



ta 

ON all communications should be written the name and 
address of the sender, not necessarily for publication, bat 
as a guarantee of good faith. 

GULL. Richard Brinsley Sheridan never appeared on 
the stage as an actor. It is, indeed, traditionally said of 
him that one night in 1781, when Rolinson Crusoe, or 
Harlequin F,-i,l t ,y t was running, Grimaldi absenting him- 
self, Sheridan played Harlequin in his place. This story 
is absurd. Sheridan's father (Thomas) was an actor of 
great merit. His first appearance on the stage v/as as 
Richard III., in Dublin, 1V43. In the following year he 
appeared as Hamlet at Covent Garden. Thomas Sheri- 
dan continued on the stage about forty years. He gave 

ibho readings with Henderson ; the last was in 1785. 
He died in 1/88. 

C. A. W.- Fletcher of Saltoun was not the author of 
B saying ; but, in a letter to the Marquis of Montrose 



and others, he wrote : " I knew a very wise man who- 
believed that, if a man were permitted to make all the 
ballads, he need not care who should make the laws of a 
nation." See, for life, any good biographical dictionary, 
also Macaulay's History of England. Andrew Fletcher's 
life is prefixed to his Political Works, which were pub- 
lished in one volume. 

N. O. Y.The Reflector appeared in 1811. It was 
edited by Leigh Hunt, and printed and published by 
John Hunt, at the Examiner office, Beaufort Buildings, 
Strand. The chief writers were Dr. Aikin, Barnes (of 
the Times), Barren Field, Octavius Gilchrist, Leigh 
Hunt, Charles Lamb, Landseer (the elder), and Aristo- 
phanes Mitchell. 

FRANCESCA. See Walpole's letter to the Earl of Hert- 
ford, Nov. 1, 1764. The Colonel Sturgeon whom Sarah 
Curran married, and who was killed in the Peninsula, 
was the son of Mr. Sturgeon and his wife, Lady Hen- 
rietta Alice Wentworth, who took her husband's position, 
and called herself simply Mrs. Sturgeon. 

A. N. See The Birds of Scotland, with other Poems, 
by James Graham (1806). Yarrell misquoted the lines 
on the Goldfinch, which are as follows : 

" And see him stretch his wing, 
A fairy fan of golden spokes it seems." 

J. C. B. Never has a line been so persistently mis- 
quoted. Correctly, it runs thus: "When Greeks joined 
Greeks, then was the tug of war" (Lee, Alexander the 
Great, Act iv. sc. 2). 

CALCO G. Dance painted Miss Ray's portrait in 1777. 
The engraving was published after her murder in 1779. 
It represents a beautiful woman, in both feature and 
expression. 

M. R. " Crom aboo ! " the war-cry of the old Fitz- 
geralds, was formally abolished by Act of Parliament in 
the reign of Henry VII. 

S. H. (Ryde.) We are sorry you have been dis- 
appointed. If the case should again occur, please write- 
to the Publisher. 

C. W. E. The General Index to the twelve volumes 
of the Fourth Series of " N. & Q." was published in 

NEPHRITE. " Vol,"in blazonry, implies two wings con- 
joined as endorsed (Elwin's Synopsis of Heraldry). 

J. L. (Glasgow.) We can neither give the information 
nor the advice required. 

D. B. Anticipated. See former notices on " Coming 
thro' the rye." 

J. R. D. Apply to Messrs. Chatto & Windus, the suc- 
cessors of Mr. Hotten. 

CLERICUS RUSTICUS. See Midsummer's Night's Dream, 
Act i. sc. 1. 

S. G. (Thomas Sunderland) never sent his name and 
address. 

INQUIRER. The words mentioned are English and 
French adaptations, through the Latin, from the Greek. 
J. BEALE had better inquire at the British Museum. 
T. B. (Romford.) The query shall be inserted. 

NOTICE. 

Editorial Communications should be addressed to " The 
Editor of 'Notes and Queries'" Advertisements and 
Business Letters to " The Publisher "at the Office, 20, 
Wellington Street, Strand, London, W.C. 

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CONTENTS. N 114. 

NOTES : The Expenses of Repairing the Cathedral of Cloyne 
in 1640, 1641, 1661, 1662, 1663, 1664, and 1667, &c., 181 
Shakspeariana, 183 " Fortes fortuna adjuvat" Conserva- 
tion of Monuments The " Spelling Bee " Pepys's Shrove 
Tuesday Dinner, 1660 Ancient Roman Custom On the 
Truths contained in Popular Superstitions, 185 Sawdust 
"Wedding Confusing Metaphors -Milton and Scott Tradi- 
tion Precedent, 186. 

QUERIES : Pope and Avellanada, 186 Mr. Chambers, 
Recorder of Norwich The Widow of Ephesus "The 
Tribute," &c. : "The Marvellous Magazine," &c. "Etait 
la Courtille" The Basilisk in Heraldry - Puke : Swink : 
Ponto, 187 J. Dunstable The Saints Monjoie Herald- 
Angelica Kauffmann Circulating Libraries Blackstone's 
"Commentaries" Domesday Book The Language of Art 
Johnson's ' Dictionary" "What I Live for ""The 
History of this Iron Age "Heraldry, 188. 

REPLIES :" Kine ": "Kye": "Swine," 189 "Coming 
through the Rye," 191 John Tupling Musical Revenge : 
"Hudibras," 192 "Last of the Stuarts "Privileges of 
Regiments, 193 Milton's Forestry" The Pilgrimage of 
Princes" Manorial Courts "Gondolas on wheels" 
Which is the Largest Park in England? Wherries St. 
Vincent's Day " Fountains running wine" Mrs. Steele 
"Cannon to right of them" Celtic and Sanscrit Bishop 
Jewel's "Seven Godly Sermons," 195 The Lordship of 
Bromfield and Yale -Mistletoe in Grimsthorpe Park G. 
Butler of Ballyragget The Great Snowstorm in 1614-15 
Theophilus Swift Why is Easter on April 16? "Liber 
Veritatis," 196 The Passage of the Israelites through the 
Red Sea Church Briefs Bell Horses London Almanacs, 
197. 

Notes on Books, &c. 



THE EXPENSES OF REPAIRING THE CATHE- 
DRAL OF CLOYNE IN 1640, 1641, 1661, 1662, 
1663, 1664, AND 1667, &c. 

It is not often that we can procure accurate ac- 
counts of the restoration of an Irish provincial 
cathedral in the early part of the seventeenth cen- 
tury, particularly in the year of the Great Re- 
bellion. Through the courtesy of the Dean of 
Cloyne, with the permission of the Commissioners 
of the Irish Church Temporalities, I have now be- 
fore me the ancient Chapter Books of the cathedral 
church of St. Colman Cloyne, which have been just 
discovered in an old chamber adjacent to the 
cathedral, which in former days was used by the 
Registrar of the Diocese as a muniment room. 
The items will show the cost of Irish labour at a 
critical period of our history. There is a gap in 
the accounts for twenty years following the Great 
Rebellion, and it was not till July 14, 1663, that 
the accounts of 1640 were exhibited to the Chap- 
ter. Cloyne Cathedral, like most churches of the 
kind, has suffered from time to time from the 
meddling of ignorant builders or masons ; and it 
is really marvellous how far it has escaped, con- 
sidering the nature of the proposed alterations we 
meet with in more modern times recorded in the 
Chapter Books, but which, fortunately, the want 
of means seems to have prevented being carried 
out. As it is, we have a very pretty choir and 



chancel (modernized) ; two fine transepts, still 
bearing traces of their original grandeur. The 
north, called the " Fitzgerald Isle," still contains 
the monument of that once great sept : 
" Epitaphium Johafiis de Geraldis Militis 

Anno Domini 1611. 

Hie situs est miles magni de stirpe Geraldi 
^Eterna cujus patria laude sonat," &c. 

The south transept is called the " Poor Isle," 
from the family of Poor or Power, whose estates 
once extended from near Youghal to Cork Har- 
bour, and from which the celebrated headland at 
its entrance is still called Poor Head. It is 
said that in former times they endowed a chantry 
in this " isle," which was their place of sepulture. 
Amongst other monuments it now contains that 
of Capt. Richard Bent and his lady ; the former 
died April 10, 1680, the latter Feb. 17, 1678. 
Also the monument of the Longfield family of 
Castlemary, which completely blocks up one of 
the finest windows in this part of the country. 
Opposite the cathedral stands the Round Tower 
in all its ancient majesty, not a stone loose after 
such a lapse of ages, and quite intact, excepting 
the conical cap, which was struck with lightning 
in March, 1748, at which time the windows of the 
cathedral were shattered by the storm. The 
Round Tower now, as in the days of old, contains 
the cathedral bell. From a deposition taken 1635, 
we learn that Cloyne, in 1260, " was divided into 
English town or street. The manor house stood 
near the church, the bishop having no foot of land 
reserved in the town ; that the bishops' house was 
in Irish Street, but of late, in the last Sir John's 
time, they had got one in English Street." But 
what makes the following accounts particularly in- 
teresting is the fact that they refer to the reparations 
undertaken for the first time after the cathedral 
came into the hands of the reformed clergy, and I 
think I shall prove this. Everything previous to 
1640 seems to have been in confusion. Lord De- 
puty Mountjoy, on his return towards Dublin after 
the siege of Kinsale, paid a visit here : 

"March 9, 1601. His lordship slept at Cloyne, being 
a manor house and town belonging to the see of Cork, 
then let to Master John Fitzedmunds, who entertained 
us and all the Gentlemen, Captains, and others in his 
lordship's train, and the Lord Deputy, being well con- 
vinced of his loyalty on other occasions, knighted him 
on leaving his house the next morning to pursue his 
journey." Hib. Pac. 

Previous to this, 1575, Mathew Sheyne, Bishop 
of. Cork and Cloyne, granted the fee farm of the 
temporalities of Cloyne, for ever, to Richard Fitz- 
maurice for a fine of 40Z., who sold his right to 
Master John, whose agent he was in the trans- 
action. 

1606. Bishop Lyon petitioned the Privy Coun- 
cil against this nefarious proceeding ; it was heard 
in the Star Chamber, but Sir John had sufficient 
interest to prevent any decision. 



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1615. " Ecclesia Cathedralis in bono statu. _ Decanus 
nullum habet domum spectantem ad hanc dignitatem. 
Johannes Fitzgerald, miles, per usurpationem tenuit non 
solum domus et mansiones, ssd etiam terras et posses- 
siones Episcopi et Dignitariorum." Regal Visitat. 
In Visitation books in bono statu means that the 
building was not in a ruinous condition. 

1631. Lord Strafford on his arrival found many 
bishoprics destroyed, amongst others Cloyne. 

1634. Abp. Laud, writing to Strafford, says : 
" I hope you will join Sir Thomas FitzEdmonds 
to the rest of his fellows, and make him vomit up 
Cloyne." Stratford's Letters. 

1638. Cloyne was separated from Cork and 
Eoss. Dr. George Synge was appointed bishop, 
but at the breaking out of the rebellion had to fly 
for his life, and Edmond, eldest son of Sir John, 
immediately seized the castle and estates of 
Cloyne. 

1654. Cromwell's party expelled the Fitzgeralds 
from all the church lands. 

1663. Steps were taken by Bishop Edward, 
brother to Bishop George Synge, to recover the 
scattered possessions of the see. 

From the following we will see how the cathe- 
dral was gradually supplied with the requisites 
for the service to which it was in future to be 
dedicated. The income of the Chapter appears to 
have been, in 1640, the sum of 45?., received from 
Charles Stavelly, gent, farmer to the Chapter. 

" The Accounts of Mr. Henry Rugg, (Economusfor the 
Chapter of Cloyne, for 1640. Disbursed. For the cast- 
ing of the Bell, 10ft. 12s. For taking down the t