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LONDON, SATURDAY, JANUARY 2, 1897.
CONTENTS.— N° 262.
Parliamentary Writ of 25 Edward I., 1— The
i 9 NovevE 1796, 2-British, 3-Wife Shod by her
hand-'' Gallop"-'' Dear knows "-Olney, 5-" Scrog-
mo£ Si" "-" Yaw " - Mrs. Baddeley-" Gert "^Great--
Butler and Tennyson-" Yede "-Shakspeare and the Book
of Wisdom, 6.
QUERIES :-William Hiseland-Everle : Gysburne-Water-
^ bury -Thomas Proclus Taylor - Edward Il.-Petworth
Gaol -Col. H. Slaughter -Stained Glass, 7-Fhxton-
rcnrialnlace of Capel Lofft — Nelson Relic — Mangles—
Ke Morland -John Andrg - Colby Font-Hill-Sir
Kenelm Digby, 8-London Directories—" Sones carnall
— Vergilius— Authors Wanted, 9.
REPLIES :-Galleries in Church Porches, 9— "God save the
kintr" 10 — Compound Adjective — Lord Monson— Sub-
stituted Portraits - Sheep-stealer Hanged - Astrological
Signatures, 11— Churchwardens-Joseph Miller- ' Forest
Cloth "-Peter of Colechurch-Squib, 12-' The Giaour '-
Saxon Pedigree— Robin and Dead Child-Cunobelmus or
Cvmbeline-" Fighting like devils," &c., 13 -Stephen
Duck— "Jolly"— Lines on Oxford and Cambridge, 14—
Aerolites-Breve and Crotchet— Motto-Eschuid-Change
of Religion-Pitt Club, 15-Accents in French-' Anec-
dotes of Books '— Fovilla-Simon Grynieus, 16-Laurence
Hyde — Topographical Collections — " Feer and Flet —
Sir John Jervis, 17-Louis Philippe— Duke of Gloucester
—The Man of Ghent — Early Newspapers, 18— Authors
Wanted, 19.
NOTES ON BOOKS :— Chalmers's ' A Scots Mediaeval Archi-
tect'—Atkinson's 'Calendar of State Papers relating to
Ireland' — Earle's 'Colonial Days ' — ' Whitaker's Alma-
nack'—' Naval and Military Trophies,' Part IV.
Notices to Correspondents.
THE PARLIAMENTARY WRIT OF 25 EDWARD I.
The writ of summons, dated 26 January,
25 Edward I. (1296/7), for a Parliament to meet
at Salisbury, is invested with much interest from
the fact that Francis Townsend, Windsor Herald,
quoting, as it appears, John Vincent, raised a
doubt as to the regularity of this writ.
The manner in which this doubt originated is
very clearly set forth, in his ' Historic Peerage,'
by William Courthope, Somerset, who gives with
great fulness and perspicacity many details con-
nected with the writ, and he adds critical remarks
which indicate that he was much impressed by the
doubt raised ; all of which may be found, as any
one familiar with his valuable work knows under
"Fitz-John."
The essence of the objection which has been thus
taken to this writ is that it is addressed to the
temporality only, and ignores the whole body of
peers spiritual, not a single bishop or abbot being
included ; and dealing for the present with this
point only, it is not a little strange that Courthope,
in his very careful statement of the case, makes no
allusion to the unusual circumstances of the
ecclesiastical party at this particular time.
These circumstances are well known. King
Edward having returned from the campaign in
Scotland, the sacking of Berwick and the capture
of Baliol, and being under the necessity of con-
tinuing the French war with two armies, a
southern in Gascony and a northern in Flanders,
found himself with an exhausted treasury, and
demanded a fifth from the clergy.
This demand was, in view at once of the gravity
of the king's necessities and of the enormous and
rapidly increasing wealth of the Church, a moderate
demand. But the Primate Winchelsey and the
Pope Boniface VIII. regarded the position of the
king as a favourable one to promulgate the monstrous
claim that Church property should pay no taxes to
the king, but to the Pope alone.
To this end Winchelsey produced the celebrated
Bull by Boniface, known as " Clericis Laicos," for-
bidding the clergy to grant to laymen any part of
the revenue of their benefices without the permis-
sion of the Holy See. In Convocation this
attitude was supported with the dictum that
obedience was due to their spiritual lord and to
their temporal, but most to the spiritual : to which
latter they ingenuously offered to submit the point
at issue.
King Edward, thus involved both at home and
abroad in the greatest difficulties, rose at this
crisis to the height of his magnificent career. He
proceeded to outlaw the whole clergy, saying, in
effect, that if they would not obey the law they
should take no benefit of the law. The Chief
Justice, at Westminster, publicly announced in the
plainest terms the position taken by the king.
All this happened at the end of 1296 and the
beginning of 1297, the date of this writ of sum-
mons. If the king proposed to call a Parliament
it is in the highest degree probable that the inten-
tion was to take counsel with the temporality
concerning this Bull and the obduracy of the
clergy. Their obduracy was, however, of no long
standing, as the clergy soon fell away from Win-
chelsey to make their peace with the king and
resume their allegiance. Many bad thus been in-
lawed before the end of the summer, which may
explain the facts noticed by Courthope, that various
clerics were summoned later in the year.
The precise nature of the meeting at Salisbury
has also been questioned, and it has been doubted
whether this was a Parliament at all, inde-
pendently of the validity of the writ of summons
to it. Courthope quotes authorities for the date of
assembly as Sunday, the feast of St. Matthew the
Apostle, which he expands as 21 September,
25 Edw. I., 1297, and in a foot-note remarks
that 21 September that year fell on a Saturday.
This discrepancy might have suggested an error,
even if the unusually long notice of nearly
eight months had raised no surprise. The source
of the confusion, however, presents no great
difficulty.
The writ doubtless summoned the Parliament
to meet on the feast of St. Matthias (not Mat-
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[8th 8, XI. JAN. 2, '97.
thew) the Apostle, viz., 24 February, 1296/7,
which was a Sunday that year. The Parliament
duly met on that date, and though little is
known of its deliberations, the Earls of Norfolk
and Hereford then refused to lead the campaign
in Gascony, on the ground that the king was
not going thither in person ; and it was on this
occasion that the supposed punning allusion to
Bigot's name occurred. King Edward himself
was still at Salisbury on 7 March, when the
Archbishop Winchelsey had audience there to
discuss the situation, and on this occasion, it
seems, a modus vivendi was arranged.
Reasonable consideration of these plain facts
leads to the opinion that there was a Parliament
at Salisbury in response to the writ of summons
in question; that those who were omitted from
the summons were outlaws, and had conse-
quently no right to receive writs ; that this
Parliament discussed the Bull and the general
situation ; that King Edward, having taken
counsel and heard the views of the lords tem-
poral, subsequently came to an informal under-
standing, for the existence of which there is
good evidence, with the prime mover in the
matter, Archbishop Winchelsey; and that the
supposed Parliament at Salisbury of 21 Septem-
ber, 1297, at which date the king was in
Flanders, is a myth arising from a mistake very
easily to be made.
The great probability that this writ produced
a Parliament has an important bearing on the
regularity of the writ itself; especially so since
those were present who would have been glad to
take exception to the legality of the summons
if they could have done so ; and, duly regarded
in all its bearings and its peculiar circumstances,
the validity of this writ of 26 January, 25 Edw. I.,
notwithstanding the opinions of the eminent autho-
rities named, seems to be more easily defended
than opposed. HAMILTON HALL.
THE TIMES, 9 NOVEMBER, 1796.
The facsimile reprint of the Times of the above
date is in many respects exceedingly interesting.
It is of the 3,736th number, and it appeared simul-
taneously with the 30,043rd number. A greater
contrast between the four-page sheet of 1796 and
the sixteen-page issue of 1896 it would be impos-
sible to instance. Of course the great interest of
the issue of 9 November, 1796, lies in the
announcement of Washington's resignation of the
Presidency of the United States — a piece of
information which then occupied seven weeks in
transmission, whereas now news travels the same
distance in about seven minutes. The intimation
that "Mr. Fox will dine at Guildhall as well as
Mr. Pitt"; thab Mr. Kemble and Mrs. Siddons
were playing the leading roles in 'Richard III.'
at Drury Lane, and also the extracts from the
Ami des Lois and the Redacteur in reference to a
French invasion of England, are all very interest-
ing ; but to readers of to-day the advertisements
will offer the greatest amount of attraction. George
Washington, Pitt, and Fox are not nearly so much
part and parcel of the old world as lotteries and
patent cures for king's evil.
The advertisements number sixty-five, and the
most remarkable one of all heads the first column.
In large type we have the announcement of an
" extraordinary large reptile " which may be
inspected " with the greatest pleasure " at 422,
Oxford Street. The bite of this "largest and
most beautiful rattlesnake " ever imported into
this country "is attended with immediate dis-
solution," but the owner of this pleasant companion
does not offer practical demonstrations of its power.
There are four lottery advertisements, the special
claims of each of which are urged with all the flowery
eloquence of the quack and the cheap-jack. Patent
medicine advertisements take a very important
place in the paper, and the income from these must
have been considerable. They range from Dr.
James's analeptic pill to nostrums for scald heads,
and wind up with Dr. Solander's " Sanative Eng-
lish Tea," for "nervous, bilious, consumptive, and
relaxed constitutions," in packets at 2s. 9d, and in
canisters at 10s. Qd. each. The fact that it was in
use " by several most noble and elevated of the
nobility " was to be taken as an indisputable proof
of its efficacy, but a few abridged testimonials from
smaller fry, such as a corn-chandler, an apothecary,
&c., are given. Mr. Moberly Bell's face would be
an interesting study if some of these advertisements
were now brought to him for insertion in the
Times.
From a literary point of view, the most interest-
ing advertisement in the paper relates to "An
Asylum of Genius (where complete justice will be
done to Literary works, and money occasionally
advanced to the authors themselves, to advertise
them)," which was just opened at 137, Fleet Street.
Here we have one of the earliest appeals to the
vanity of the amateur scribbler. Among the pub-
lications of this philanthropic institution were ' A
Cat o' Nine Tails,' by the Nine Muses, at the low
price of fourpence, and 'A Guide Spiritual and
Temporal,' which contained "a variety of matter
that comes home to men's hearts," and which may
have been had for one shilling.
Auctioneers' advertisements, for which the news-
papers of the day keenly competed, occupy nearly
the whole of one page, Messrs. Skinner, Dyke &
Skinner holding most of their sales at Garraway's
Coffee House, the great mart of the day, their
offices being in Aldersgate Street, whilst Mr.
Christie's sales were chiefly conducted at his great
room in Pall Mall, No. 125, adjoining the house in
j which Gainsborough set up his studio when he
8. XI. JAN. 2, '97.]
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arrived in London from Bath in 1774. The ad-
vertisements of Skinner, Dyke & Skinner, and
James Christie are for the most part of country
estates, of little general interest now ; but at this
period both firms were about equally well known
as auctioneers of pictures and objects of art.
But quite the most interesting reflection which
will be forced upon one in connexion with this
facsimile is the exceedingly easy duties of the
editor of a daily newspaper in 1796 as compared
with those a century later. A pair of scissors, a pot
of paste and one of beer were apparently the chief
weapons of the editor of 1796, supplemented by an
occasional paragraph or two written all out of his
own head. In this particular issue of the Times
there are fifty-two lines of the editor's own com-
position— the sum total of its original matter.
There were in 1796 no early newspaper trains to
catch, no leader-writers to supervise, no sporting
intelligence to overlook, no slaving from 8 P.M.
until 4 A.M. What a Golden Age for editors of
daily newspapers ! W. EGBERTS.
Carlton Villa, Klea Avenue, Clapham Common.
BRITISH.
I am writing about Everard Digby, the author
of * De Arte Natandi,' the first book published in
England on swimming in the year 1587, and I
wanted to say (of course with pride) that he was
an Englishman pure and simple, and not a
Britisher. That is, he lived before the union of
England and Scotland, when James I. came to the
throne. At least that is my notion of a Britisher.*
I have a bad habit now of looking out for the
accepted (or rather dictionary) meaning of words
to see if I am right — a bad habit, because, as
will be seen by the following observations, it
almost invariably leads one into endless searches,
that take up time. So let us see what the authori-
ties say about British, and, as I have a bad memory
for dates, what was the date of this so-called union.
Ah ! Haydn's * Dictionary of Dates ' is sure to
give me both under " British." No. All sorts of
British institutions and British Museum. Under
" Britain " we are told the kingdom merged into
that of England 874; but that is a British or
Britain that I am not concerning myself with
now. Under " England " we get the date of
James VI. 's accession to the English throne, 1603 ;
but no explanation of British. Most of the
institutions called British are not British at all,
but purely English, unless the fact of Scotsmen
coming to England, remaining permanently there,
and joining these institutions makes them British.
Ah ! I see it is the English dictionary I must
go to ; but it is Sunday, and I have very few. Let
* Though written some months ago, this note may be
taken in some sort as a reply to that entitled 'Great
Britain or England ' (8th S. x. 465).
us try the largest first. Cassell's ( Encyclopaedic '
says, "British, of or pertaining to Britain."
Well, that is no use, because we have no definition
of Britain, which, like British, is the point ;
besides, Haydn told us Britain was merged into
England.
Well, now Ogilvie's ' Imperial Dictionary,' 1882.
It simply copies Cassell's, or vice versa. Now then,
Nuttall (an edition of about 1880) : " British,
pertaining to Britain, or Great Britain, or its
inhabitants'7; but in another edition, 1893, the
Rev. James Wood, the editor, seems to have had
his suspicions, for he has left out the words
" Britain or," unless this was simply done without
reflection, to make it shorter.
So that an Irishman, a Frenchman, a German,
or Chinese, if he is " an inhabitant," is a Britisher,
which of course cannot be, for a man born in
England must be an Englisher, one born in
Wales a Welsher, &c.
Let us try Percy Smith's most useful * Glossary
of Terms and Phrases,' 1889. No. Like Nuttall,
it gives "British gum," and " British seas," and
" British ship," " one owned by a British subject,"
but no definition.
Well, Dr. Brewer's ' Phrase and Fable ' hardly
ever fails one. He gives some interesting informa-
tion about the British lion, but not what I want,
though under "Britain" we get near it, for he
says Great Britain consists of Britannia prima
(England), Britannia secunda (Wales), and North
Britain (Scotland). The natives of these countries,
I apprehend, are all Britishers when they act
in concert ; but I want a book that tells me
exactly. One more chance : Wharton's ' Law
Lexicon.' No. It defines " bridge," and " brief,"
and " British Columbia," but plain " British " you
are supposed to know.
Having exhausted my books, it is clear that I
must wait until I can go to a library. In the mean
time I may remark that I never use the word
British if English will do. If I am abroad I
call everything English— whether Scotch, Welsh,
or Irish — if I am proud of it ; but if bad I assign
it to the country it belongs to if possible, or
repudiate it as not English. Sometimes the result
is curious, as in talking of one of the magnificent
ships which you know are built in Scotland and
hail, say, from Glasgow. An Englishman abroad
is proud of her, so, in reply to what country she
belongs to, " la belle Havraise " is informed she is
English. You cannot go into details, and say,
Well, probably she is built in Scotland by Irishmen
and much of the materials and inventions are from
England. What would a Scotsman answer ? Would
b,e reply British (" Breeteesh"), or Anglais, or
Ecossais ?
At Marseilles there is a tradesman who has
" British butcher " painted over his shop. This
always puzzled me, even before I looked up this
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S. XI. JAN. 2, '97.
question, because I thought a man must be either
an Englishman or a Scotsman, unless spoken of
collectively, such as in the navy or army, when, of
course, English, Scotch, and Welsh are properly
spoken of as British. He was, perhaps, acquainted
with Scotch prejudices, and thought to catch
Scots as well as English.
The French do not take to the word " British,"*
probably because they have "Anglais," which
formerly, I believe, included all English-speaking
people ; but of late years Americans have travelled
in such numbers that it does not now include
them.
I have referred above to the " so-called union."
What kind of a union is it when each country has
separate laws ? For legal matters Scotland is as
much a foreign country as France ; for you cannot
serve an English process in Scotland or France
without leave of a judge. It is much better than
it was some years ago, when a Scotsman could
come to England, run up large bills, return to
Scotland, and flip his fingers at his creditors. It is
the same with Ireland ; and yet, though we never
conquered Scotland, we always pretend we did
Ireland. It is not much of a conquest of a country
when it still keeps its own laws. Of course, the
above instance is only supposition — "make believe,"
as the children say — no one would suspect either
Scotsmen or Irishmen of doing such a dishonest
thing.
An English judgment solemnly pronounced by
the most powerful lord we have is mere waste-
paper in Scotland or Ireland, until it has gone
through the required legal process to make it worth
anything in those two countries respectively.
The Union I have been referring to is that of
the accession of James I. ; but I need not say that
this was only a union of the two crowns, the
f< real " (?) union was not until the Act of 5 Anne,
c. 8, 1 May, 1707; the latter is as much a sham
as the former, so far as the law is concerned.
Probably one must not expect any explanation of
a word from gazetteers — at all events, if you did
you would not get it ; still it is worth while seeing
what they Lave to say.
I have the tenth edition, 1797, of K. Brooke's
* General Gazetteer'; it does not give British at
all. In a subsequent new edition, 1869, we
are informed in the preface that the " first edition
was issued to British readers" in 1762. Under
*' British America " we are told that "this extensive
territory will be found under ten heads, under the
head of "British Empire." Under that heading
nothing of the kind is to be found ;* but under
"Great Britain" we are told it is divided into
three parts — England, Scotland, and Wales.
The • Gazetteer of the British Isles,' edited by
John Bartholomew, Edin. (1893?), gives no
definition of British, Britain, nor British Isles.
I need not search further, as they are all about
the same ; but, lastly, let us see what an American
says. Lippincott's 'Gazetteer of the World/
Philadelphia, 1880, under " British Empire," refers-
to Great Britain, where it says : Great Britain or
Britain is England, Wales, and Scotland, but the
"British Isles are the United Kingdom of Great
Britain and Ireland." This is not large enough,
however ; it should have added the isles of Guernsey,
Jersey, Alderney, and Sark, for incidentally I may
say that the legislature found it nect-esary to
define British Islands, and in all Acts of Parlia-
ment passed after 31 Dec., 1889, those words mean
the United Kingdom, the Channel Islands, and
the Isle of Man (Stroud's 'Judicial Dictionary/
1890). It would thus appear that the editor of
Nuttall was not right in leaving out " Britain or."
The whole thing seems to show that they none
of them know much about, or at all events are not
thoroughly certain about the matter. Let us
suppose a man born in Ireland, or, better still,
instead of supposing I will give an actual case,
that of a valiant soldier who served his country
faithfully for twenty years— John Leahy, taken
from his own account in his ' Art of Swimming/
1875. He is a Corker, having been born in the
county of Cork, where at the age of seventeen he
enlisted in our army ("our" neatly avoids English
and British), and is brought to England, where he
is forthwith attached to a Scotch regiment, 78th
Highlanders, and for the rest of his military career
poses before the natives of India as a Scotsman
(I presume in Scots dress). He comes back to
England, where he remains, an Irishman still (?),
though if he met any of those Indian natives they
would, of course, look upon him as a Scotsman in
England. In 1868 he joined the Eton College
Rifle Corps, when we find, from his book above
referred to, he had left off the Highland dress,
as he is represented teaching the college boys
swimming, in layman's costume.f
; Nor do the English; they use the word more
generally of late years, in consequence of a kind of
boycotting threat from the Scotch— at least, so I have
been informed. There was a long discussion in the
Times some years ago, and the Scotch writers told us
that if we did not use the term British they would leave
off building our ships.
* I thought I must have made some mistake, so I
referred to an experienced literary friend, who con-
firmed me, with the observation that "there was hardly
a page of any of our books of reference that could be
relied on." I have thought this, but felt that people in
glass houses must not throw stones, and prefer to let
some one else say it.
f I use the word "costume " in its ordinary sense
here ; it does not mean none, as it does at our swimming:
entertainments, where it means not a costume, but a.
tight-fitting body and double drawers, made according to-
the laws of the Amateur Swimming Association. I am
quite prepared to find, in a few years' time, that the word
will be solely applied in this latter meaning. The swim-
S. XI. JAN. 2, '9?.J
NOTES AND QUERIES.
Although in the "British army," it would be
unfair to call him British, because that word, as
we have seen from all the authorities, and also as
we know from our constitution, does not include
the Irish, nor any others (if there are any) who
contribute to keep up the empire. Why should
his nationality be sunk? He served the empire
with great bravery, frequently distinguishing him-
self during his twenty- one years. Now if there
is a word that includes British and Irish, it
appears to me that Sergeant Leahy is entitled
to be called by it.
Has not a mistake been made by the Scotch in
insisting that the word " British " be used instead
of "English"? England is the larger country,
and the lesser should have merged in the greater.
RALPH THOMAS.
(To be continued.)
A SKITTISH WIFE IRON-SHOD BY HER HUSBAND.
-A horrible story to this effect is quoted by the
Lootch (Sunbeam) of 20 Nov. (2 Dec.) from the
Vostotchnoe Obozrenie (Eastern Review), and Birje-
viya Vedomosti (Bourse Intelligencer). A village
blacksmith, Nicolas Temliakoff by name, feeling
jealous of his spouse, made her a pair of well-
fitting iron horseshoes, which in regular style he
proceeded to nail to her feet, heedless of her fearful
screams and prayers for mercy. The madman's
idea may have been that, if fond of running to
assignations, she should not wear out shoe-leather
at his expense. When the unhappy woman
swooned under the extreme torture, he cheerfully
revived her by pricking her neck and shoulders
with a sharp knife. This is alleged to have occurred
at Bolshe-Kosulski, in the Mariensky Circuit, near
Tomsk, but one suspects mystification or great
exaggeration, as the account concludes with the
statement that, after being locked up for a couple
of days by his fellow-villagers, this farrier of human
beings was set at liberty. I only quote under
reserve. The savage tale recalls Lustucru, in
the old French print, hammering obstinate wives'
heads on an anvil : " Je te rendrai bonne " (see
Champfleury, 'Livres Populaires '). Perhaps the
whole report may have originated in some coarse
practical joke. Does any folk-lore exist to illus-
trate shoeing a faithless wife? Wright, in his 'His-
tory of Caricature,' has an engraving, from an old
carving, of a farrier shoeing a goose, which, if not
merely a quaint conceit, may be in allusion to the
old saw about the pity of seeing a goose go bare-
foot ? But this is foreign to our present subject.
H. E. M.
St. Petersburg.
THE ETYMOLOGY OF " GALLOP." — I find that,
in the newest French etymological dictionary,
ming galas are now headed "Costume entertainment.
Ladies specially invited/'
by Hatzfeldj the only recorded guess about the
etymology of F. galoper is the old one which con-
nects the syllable -lop with the Gothic hlaupan^ to
run ; but it is now said to be very doubtful. I
cannot understand why this suggestion has not
long since been abandoned as impossible*
I have pointed out, in my f Dictionary,' that the
M.E. form also appears as walopen as well as
galopen. Bradley's Stratmann gives three references
for lOalopen in Middle-English. I also point out
that the etymology of this form is from an O.F.
*waloper, not recorded, but an older form
of galoper; and further, that this is derived
from a Flemish form walopen, for which I give a
quotation .
This O.F. *waloper is nowhere recorded ; but
there are traces of it, which Godefroy's ' Old French
Dictionary ' entirely ignores. The first is, that
Roquefort, s.v. " Galopin," cites the forms wailopin
and walopin, which he presumably saw somewhere*
It is usual to derive the sb. galopin from the verb
galoper ; but it is as well to note that Ducange
connects it with Low Lat. galuppus.
But I now wish to state more particularly that
there is one trace of the initial w in Old French
which cannot be doubted. In * Le Jeu de Robin,'
by Adam de la Halle, printed by Bartsch and
Horning in their book of selections from Old
French, we find (col. 544, 1. 26) the line, " II vient
chi les grans walos," here he comes at full gallop*
Here walos is the plural of walop, just as galos is
the plural of galop ; the phrase recurs with the
spelling " les grans galos " at col. 288, 1. 13 of the
same work. If we want to find the etymology of
galoper we must start from the form wdl-op-er.
WALTER W. SKEAT.
Cambridge.
" DEAR KNOWS." — In vols. iv. and v. the origin
of " Dear me " was discussed. Among the descend*
ants of Scotch-Irish families settled in the United
States one hears occasionally such an expression
as, "I wouldn't do it, dear knows/1 This is ob*
viously equivalent to " Scit Deus." The phrase
perhaps lingers yet in Ulster, possibly even in the
lowlands of Scotland.
RICHARD H. THORNTON.
Portland, Oregon.
OLNEY. — I was amused over an account told by
a newspaper friend living in an interior town in
New York State, occupying there an editorial
chair, of his efforts to straighten out genealogical
information touching this surname* A pale-faded
New England spinster of uncertain age, one of the
town's teachers, bearing the name, implored my
friend to insert a paragraph asking data regarding
the antecedents of the distinguished French noble-
man of her patronymic who first brought the sur-
name to the shores of America several hundreds of
years ago. This was duly inserted. Weeks went
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but no answer came to the query. At last a burly
young farmer, in husky but mysterious tones, begged
an audience of the editor. Thinking the individual
had called to square his year's subscription with
several barrels of apples in lieu of the better-liked
authorized paper currency printed at the expense of
the people of the United States through the authori-
ties at Washington, and being short of that kind of
fruit at home, our editor unlatched his door and
received the visitor with a broad, bland smile,
denoting much hearty welcome. To his dis-
appointment, no apples were offered, but he was
requested to indite a reply to the " fullish" query,
and state that the spinster was "a dom fool," that
the signer was a Englishman, that his name was
Olney, that the Olneys were as thick as blueberries
in the English county where he came from, that
he had no French blood in his veins ; moreover,
he pronounced his name Owney, dropping the
I as quite unnecessary. Looking into the annals
of the name on this continent, I find it peculiar
only to the little State of Rhode Island, where it
is common indeed, their records claiming descent
from four persons who arrived in Boston Harbour
in 1635, viz., Thomas Olney, shoemaker, aged
thirty-five ; Marion Olney, aged thirty ; Thomas
Olney, aged three ; and Epenetus Olney, aged one.
Local history records this shoemaker to have had
a gift for talking Anabaptist theories, to the disgust
of the austere Puritans of the period, then seriously
contemplating the hanging of certain troublesome
Anabaptists and Quakers — nine meeting that fate
on the green grounds of the Boston Common ; and to
save his neck he moved into the wilderness in com-
pany with the far-famed Rev. Roger Williams,
also a great talker, and with him laid the foundation
of the city of Providence, now the capital of Rhode
Island. It is curious to note that the common
accentuation of the name throughout that State is
Owney. As there are several places in England
called Olney, it would be interesting to know which
one of them is locally pronounced Owney.
MANHATTAN.
(l SCROGMOGGLING." — This word seems worthy
of preservation in *N. & Q.' According to the
Standard and Diggers' News,
" the lady bicyclists at Johannesburg were to have taken
part in the cycling carnival which is to take place at the
Rand shortly; but it appears that the hubbies of the
married ladies don't like the idea of their wives scrog-
moggling in a procession, so the scheme has been dropped,
and a decoration competition is to be substituted. The
husbands, it is clear, were in their rights in objecting to
scrogmoggling in a procession,"
But what does " scrogmoggling " mean ?
W. ROBERTS.
THE ETYMOLOGY OF "YAW.'*— The etymology
of the verb to yaw, occurring in ' Hamlet/ V. ii,
120, has never yet been correctly given. That in
my ' Dictionary * (copied into the ' Century Dic-
tionary ') is wrong, and indeed impossible. It is,
however, Scandinavian, from the Icel. jaga ; cf.
E. awe, from Icel. agi. The Dan. jage, Swed. jaga,
G. and Du. jagen, all mean "to hunt"; but the
Icel. verb has the peculiar sense of to move to and
fro, to be unsteady, to yaw*
WALTER W. SKEAT.
MRS. SOPHIA BADDELEY (1745-1786), ACTRESS
AND VOCALIST. — An entry in the London Chronicle?
29 Dec., 1770 to 1 Jan., 1771, p. 2, thus briefly
records the death of her father : " A few days ago-
died at Windsor, Valentine Snow, Esq.; Serjeant
Trumpeter to his Majesty, and father to Mrs,
Baddeley, of Drury Lane Theatre."
DANIEL HIPWELL.
" GEET " = GREAT. — This adjective is common
in the neighbourhood of Wakefield, as, " G,) on,
thah gert soft thing ! " Halliwell gives this form of
the word as occurring in Devonshire. In Derbyshire
one usually hears gret. S. 0. ADDY.
BUTLER AND TENNYSON. — It is always inter*
esting to find similarities of expression in poetry,
and to compare them, without for a moment as-
suming that one poet has borrowed from another,
Butler, in ' Hudibras,' pt. ii. canto i. 11. 571-2,
has: —
Where'er you tread, your foot shall set
The primrose and the violet.
Tennyson, in ' Maud,' pt. i. xxii. § 7, has :—
From the meadow your walks have left so sweet
That whenever a March-wind sighs
He sets the jewel-print of your feet,
In violets blue as your eyes.
F. C. BIRKBECK TERRY,
" YBDE."— " It would be curious to know if
the mistake really occurs in any other author's
works," observes Prof. Skeat, in his 'Student's
Pastime,' with reference to this word as used by
Spenser as an infinitive. Though not actually so
used by Sackville, a little earlier, it is presupposed
by him in the following passage : —
Here entred we, and, yeding forth, anone
An horrible lothly lake we might discerne,
As blacke as pitche, that oleped is Auerne.
'Induction '(1563), st. 30.
Yeding would have seemed, in distant ageer,
much like wasing for "being." F. H.
Marlesford.
SHAKSPEARB AND THE BOOK OF WISDOM, —
The following is a verbal coincidence, not notised!
by Bishop Wordsworth in ' Shakespeare and the<
Bible.' " Were partly vexed with monstrous'
apparitions " (Wisdom, xvii. 15, an allusion to the*
Egyptians in darkness) : —
I think it is the weakness of mine eyes
That shapes this monstrous apparition.
« Julius Caesar,' IV, iii.
R. M. MARSHALL,
21, Magdalen Terrace, St. Loonarda-on-Hea
8. XI. JAN. 2, '97.]
NOTES AND QUERIES,
We must request correspondents desiring information
on family matters of only private interest to affix their
names and addresses to their queries, in order that the
answers may be addressed to them direct.
PENSIONER WILLIAM HISELAND. — There is a
tombstone in the cemetery of the Royal Hospital,
Chelsea, to William Hiseland, pensioner, who lived
to the age of one hundred and twelve years,
" having served upwards of the days of man," and
died in 1732. Faulkner, in his 'History of
Chelsea,' edition of 1829, vol. ii. p. 265, gives a
full account of him, stating that he had signalized
himself at the battle of Edgehill, was in the wars
of Ireland under King William, served in Flanders
under the Duke of Marlborough, and was allowed
a pension by the Duke of Eichmond and Sir
Robert Walpole. He also mentions that (in 1829)
Mr. Thomas Pallisher, of the "Cross Keys Inn,"
Gracechurch Street, had in his possession a half-
length portrait of Hiseland, with the following
writing in one corner of it : — " William Hiseland,
the Pentionr of Chelsea College, did sit, 1st August,
1730, for this picture, who was then 110, and in
perfect health.-— George Alsop, pinx." I endea-
voured to ascertain what had become of this
picture, and after some time was informed by
Messrs. Christie that it had been sold by them in
1888 as part of the collection of W. R. Winch,
deceased, late of North My rams Park, Hatfield.
The entry in their books is, " G. Alsop, 1730,
William Hiseland, Chelsea Pensioner, aged 110,
sold to Mr. Charles Davis, 147, New Bond Street."
I then went to Mr. Davis, but could obtain no
further information as to the picture. As it has a
special interest for the veteran pensioners of the
Eoyal Hospital, Chelsea, I should feel indebted to
any of your readers who can give me a clue to the
present possessor of it.
0. W. ROBINSON, Major-General,
Eoyal Hospital, Chelsea.
EVERLE: GYSBURNE.— Can any reader tell me
where Everle or Gysburne is? The manor of
Everle is mentioned in an agreement dated 1260,
in connexion with William de Brinistun, Robert
de Spaunton, and John de Geddinges.
A. T. SPANTON.
Hanley, Staffordshire.
$
WATERBURT FAMILY.— Will you kindly inform
me whether there are now in England any of the
name of Waterbury ; and if anything is known of
the history of the family ? John Waterbury, the
pioneer of the family in America, came out pre-
viously to 1646. He was a landholder in Stam-
ford, Connecticut, at that date, but had before
that resided in other parts of America. Settling
in Stamford, he became one of the prominent and
men Of the country, was one Qf
senators and representatives, and a man of some
distinction. The genealogical record of the family
is unbroken from that date to the present, over
two hundred and fifty years. What I desire is to
learn more of the English ancestry.
D. H. WATERBURY.
St. John, N.B., Canada.
THOMAS PROCLUS TAYLOR. — Thomas Proclus
Taylor, dramatic author, appears to have been the
son of Thomas Taylor, the Platonist. I should be
glad to hear more of him. J. M. RIGO.
9, New Square, Lincoln's Inn.
EDWARD II. — I shall be much obliged if any of
your readers will inform me in what book I can
find an account of the march of Edward II. from
Cirencester to Worcester, and the demolition of
BrimsBeld Castle, and also of the battle of Borough-
bridge, about the same date. H. GAY.
PETWORTH GAOL : PARISH REGISTERS. — Wanted
information about one William Phillips, Governor
of Petworth Gaol in 1794, or at the time of John
Howard's visit about that period. Have the Pet-
worth parish registers been published ? F.S. A.
COL. HENRY SLAUGHTER, OR SLATER, GOVERNOR
OF NEW YORK. — I should be very pleased to ascer-
tain whether Henry Slaughter, or Slater, who was
appointed by the Earl of Shrewsbury to the
Governorship of New York towards the end of
the seventeenth century, was the son of Henry
Slaughter, or Slater, who was Master Gunner of
England about the middle of the same century.
The Herefordshire Slaters were related to the Earl
of Shrewsbury ; so I incline to the view that the
Governor was a member of that family. The Slaters,
too, were related to the Corn walls of Herefordshire,
and one of the officers in Col. Cornwall's Regiment,
now the 9th Regiment, was a certain Solomon
Slater, who was afterwards Muster- Master General
to King James's forces in Ireland about 1689.
should much like to know how the Governor was
related to the Muster-Master General.
JOHN J. GREGSON SLATER.
1031, Chester Road, Stretford.
STAINED GLASS : REN£, Due DE BAR.— About
the year 1802, an Englishman bought, at Dijon, a
stained - glass window of the fifteenth century,
which formerly belonged to the chapel of the Dues
de Bourgogne of that town ; it represented Ren6,
Due de Bar, kneeling, in a fur robe, among several
saints. Beneath the chief figure were wafers
(oublies) in allusion to the neglect (I oubh) of
subjects, who allowed him to remain m captivity at
Dijon from 1431. The arms of the duke were also
displayed upon the glass : Azure, semy of crosses
crosslets fitcby, two barbels addorsed or.
Due Rene" is supposed to have designed this glass
hjm^f. Can anv readers of *N. & Q.' say in
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
[8«i S. XL JAN. 2, '97,
wiiat public or private collection this glass is at
present? LEO CULLETON.
FLIXTON. — Can any of your readers give the
correct derivation of the word Flixton ? There are
four Flixtons — one in Lancashire, one in Yorkshire,
and two in Suffolk — and I believe each, like the
Lancashire one, has a place adjoining called Urm-
ston. One of the two in Suffolk is said to be
called from one Felix — Felixton, the town of
Felix. Then there is FJet, which signifies flat, and
the Lancashire one is flat enough for anything.
Then Flitte has the same meaning as Flet. There
is also Flit, Saxon for battle-strife, and Fleot, the
tide — Fleotston, the town up to which the tide
comes. Again, there is Flux, a flowing — Fluxton;
and also Fleax or Flex, meaning flax — Flaxton.
D. H. L.
FlixtOD, Lancashire.
BURIAL - PLACE OP CAPEL LOFFT. — In the
burial-ground of the Mill Quarter Plantation,
Amelia County, Virginia, is a white marble re-
cumbent cross, to the " memory of Oapel Lofft, son
of Capel Loffb, of Troton Hall, Suffolk, who died
1869." Could this be the Capel Lofft alluded to
by Byron in ' English Bards and Scotch Ee-
viewers' as "The Msscenas of shoemakers and
preface - writer general to distressed versemen,"
&c., and whom Dr. Raven mentions, in his 'His-
tory of Suffolk,' amongst celebrated men of that
county? FREDERICK T. HIBGAME.
43, Southampton Row, W.C.
[Capel Lofffc the younger, fourth son of Capel Lofft, of
Traston (not Troton) Hall, died at Millmead, Virginia,
U.S., 1 Oct., 1873, as is believed. See « Diet. Nat. Biog.']
NELSON RELIC. — Upon the back of a small
portait of Lord Nelson in my possession the fol-
lowing inscription appears in the handwriting of
Lady Hamilton : —
"This portrait of the great good and brave Nelson
Lady Hamilton gives to Mr. Ivey at Batersea [sicj Bridge,
as Lord Nelson often used to speak to him coming from
Merton to town and Lady Hamilton knows he was a
favourite of Lord Nelson."
Who was Mr. Ivey ? H. D. E.
_ MANGLES FAMILY.— Can some reader of <N.&Q.'
give me any information as to the early history of
this family ? John Mangles, of Hurley, in Berk-
shire, was a large ship-owner, whose ships sailed
between India and this country. He made a large
fortune during the Peninsular War; his mother
was named Pilgrim, and he possessed a portrait of
!<an ancestor, Capt. Pilgrim, whose commission
was in the handwriting of Oliver Cromwell." He
had ancestors named Darsey, Dartsey, or Dargey,
of Darsey Park. He was "first cousin of Sir
Albert Pell, and had cousins named Mainwaring."
He married Harriet Camden, a descendant of the
famous William Camden. Who was his father ?
. • *
I wish for information also about his wife's family ;
also the parentage of Nathaniel Mangles, of the
Trinity House, dates of birth, death, and marriage.
I think a sister of John Mangles married Capt.
Henry Cubitt, son of George, of Catfield Hall,
Norfolk. I am endeavouring to form a pedigree
of the above family, and am unable to proceed,
owing to want of knowledge of the earlier members.
F. P. YARKER.
3, Addenbrooke Place, Cambridge.
GEORGE MORLAND, SENIOR. —Did he paint
more than one portrait of Miss Gunning " washing
lace in a basin " ? I have lately seen this oil paint-
ing and the print of the same in private hands.
A. C. H.
JOHN ANDRE". — Is there any question as to
John Andrews original surname ? Was his father,
who was a merchant in London, known as Andr6 ?
Was John Andr£ born in 1750 or in 1751 (a point
on which biographical dictionaries are at variance) ;
and can the year be fixed in which he went to
Switzerland? ' R. J. WALKER.
[The 'Diet. Nat. Biog.' gives the date of birth aa
1751.]
COLBY FONT. — The ancient font in the parish
church of St. Giles, Colby, Norfolk, is octagon,
with the centre panel representing the Virgin and
Child, that on the left two walking figures, and
those on the right a woodman with axe on his
shoulder and dog at his feet. Four other panels
bear the signs of the Evangelists, and the eighth is
plain. I am anxious to learn if the representation
of the woodman can be intended for St. Giles, as
patron of woods. I am aware his usual symbol
is a wounded hart. RICHARD GURNET.
Northrepps, Norwich,
HILL, SCOTTISH ARTIST. — What is known of
this artist ; and where is his picture of the leading
spirits who influenced the disruption of the Church
of Scotland in 1843 ? Were those portraits painted
from life or from photographs supplied to him ?
If the latter, were those same photographs, or
daguerreotypes, say, ever gathered together and
deposited in some Scottish church institution ?
SELPPUC.
[Three Scottish artists of the name of Hill are men-
tioned by Graves. The only portrait painter is Mrs,
A. R. Hill.]
SIR KENELM DIGBY. — Sir Kenelm Digby is
stated to have inherited the property of his father,
notwithstanding the attainder of the latter. Of
course we conclude that Sir Everard Digby, prior
to committing himself, conveyed his property to
trustees to the use of his son Kenelm, according to
the practice of those times. Is it known who those
trustees were ? Some old MS. might show ; it
would scarcely be found in print. It would be
interesting to ascertain, if that can possibly be
8. XI. JAN. 2, '97.]
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done at this distance of time. Clearly the trustees
(or trustee) rendered an essential service to Sir
Kenelm, which he probably requited.
ERGATES.
LONDON DIRECTORIES. — Will you please state
in ' N. & Q.' when the first directory of the City
of London was published; if directories have
been issued annually since the first publication;
and if a complete set is in any of the public libraries
in London ? F. 0. H.
"SONES CARNALL" IN 1494. — What is the
exact meaning of these words in a Scottish deed of
the above date ? The Rev. Mr. McGregor Stirling,
minister of Port of Monteith, in his book upon the
district, gives the following, p. 71, as a note among
the Gartmore papers : —
" ' The 25 Feb'ry on thousand four hundrefch and
nyntie-four year, is a renunsatione granted be John the
Gram and Walter the Gram sones carnall to umquill
Maliso Earle of Monteath, with consent of John Lord
Drummond and Duncan Campbell of Glenorchy their
tutors, in favours of Alexander Earle of Monteath their
principal Lord and chiefe of the lands of Ellantallo, the
Port, Monbraich, the Miltoun of Gartmullie, Carabus-
more and Carabusbeg and many other lands therein
contained, pertaining to them by donatione of umquill
Malise Earle of Monteath there father." Below this
passage is written ( Dougalstonnes note taken up when
he went throw the charter-chist of Monteith.' It is
titled on the back, * Dougalstonne's note written to
Mungo Buchanan.' "
There is also a note of this renunciation in the
Crawford MSS. in the Advocates' Library, Edin-
burgh, describing the grantors as "John Graham
and Walter Graham, sons carnal to umquhill
Malise," &c. E. BARCLAY- ALLARDICE.
Loatwithiel, Cornwall.
VERGILIUS. — In the ( Encyclopaedia Britannica,'
eighth edition, vol. xii. p. 466, word " Ireland,"
appears : —
" In the eighth century lived Vergiliup, a philosopher
as well as a divine, as appears by a treatise of his on the
Antipodes written against the then received opinion of
the shape of the earth, which he proved to be a globe
and not a plain surrounded by the heavens at its verge.
He spent some time in France, at the Court of King
Pepin, by whom he was highly esteemed."
I have searched in vain in the British Museum for
further information respecting this writer and his
remarkable treatise, and shall feel obliged for any
further information on the subject.
H. B. HYDE.
Baling, W.
AUTHORS OP QUOTATIONS WANTED. —
" Each day is a little life, and our whole life is but a
day repeated." A, S.
The ladies of St. James's are painted to the eyea,
Their white it always stays, their red it never dies ;
But Phyllida, my Phyllida, your colour cotnes and goes,
It vurieg to the lily, and it trembles to the rose !
R. BARCLAY-ALLARDYCE.
GALLERIES IN CHURCH PORCHES.
(8th S. x. 396.)
There are the remains of a similar gallery in
Bildeston Church, Suffolk ; the staircase is oak
and runs up the west wall turning to the south
wall and so to the gallery over the south porch
entrance. It would appear that these galleries are
rare, and little attention has been paid to their
probable use. It would seem that they were erected
for the singing on Palm Sunday, the staircase
being likewise used as the way up to the room
over the south porch. This would be the case in
Bildeston Church.
The Sarum Processional says, speaking of the
procession on Palm Sunday : —
"Hie fiat secunda statio ex parte ecclesise australi,
ubi septem pueri in eminenti loco simul cantent hanc
antiphonam : ( Gloria laus et honor tibi sit, rex Christe
redemptor, Cui puerile decus prompsit Hosanna pium.'
Chorus idem repetat post unum quemque versura. Pueri
vero dicant versum : ' Israel es tu rex,' &c. Chorus
idem repetat : ' Gloria, laus,' " — ' Hymnal Noted,'
No. 54.
The York Missal says :—
" Finiti regressu pueri in altum supra ostium Ecclesiae
(vel infra ostium Ecclesias), canant versum : ' Gloria ,
laus,' &c. Chorus cum genuflexion© dicant: 'Gloria,
laus,' " &c.
The seven boys singing the verse, and the chorus
singing after each verse the repeat, " Gloria, laus
et honor." Then there is this order: uln aliis
locis, ubi non habetur ostium occidental, fiat ista
secunda statio ad ostium australe."
Dr. Kock says :—
" The whole procession now moved to the south aide
of the close, or churchyard, where in cathedrals a
temporary erection was made for the boys who sang the
'Gloria, laus et honor' as a halt was made for a
second station. Here waa it that sometimes, in parish
churches especially, the churchyard cross was the spot
at which they stopped From the stone cross on the
southern side the procession went next to the western
doorway, if the church had one, otherwise to the ^ south
porch, and there paused to make its third station.
Then in a foot-note he adds : —
" The liturgical student should notice that the tem-
porary erection over the church door, for the boys to
sing the 'Gloria, laus,' &c., is specified in the York
rubric."—' The Church of Our Fathers, vol. in. pt. 11.
pp. 67-71, 227-233.
Chambers, in his ' Divine Worship in England,'
p. 191, says : —
L "Arriving at the south side or door of the church
Seven boys from an eminence, Verse, ' Glory, &c. The
Choir repeat this after each Verse. Boys verse, Israel
&c. These verses finished, the procession advances to
the third station, before the west door.
These loci eminentes are rare, as they were pro-
bably erected only for the day ; but in any churches
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[8th S. XI, JAN. 2, '97.
where such galleries are constructional and remain,
will any one add to the list who can ?
H. A. W.
I find the following in a MS. history of Weston-
in-Gordano, Somerset, bequeathed to me by a
relative, a native of that county, but from what
source it was obtained I know not : —
" There is a curious gallery over the doorway in the
porch, which, according to tradition of the county, was
used for chanting a portion of the service at weddings."
EVBRARD HOME COLEMAN.
71, Brecknock Road.
In the church of St. Mary Magdalen, St. Leo-
nards-on-Sea, built by the late Frederick Marrable
in 1852, there is a gallery across the porch at the
south' west end. Originally it accommodated the
organ and choir, and has openings into the church.
EDWARD H. MARSHALL, M.A.
Hastings.
Possibly for educational purposes. Evelyn states,
" that one Frier taught us in the church porch at
Wotton " (' Memoirs,' second edition, 1819, vol. i.
p. 3). HORACE MONTAGU.
' 123, Pall Mall.
"GOD SAVE THE KING" (8th S. X. 234, 362,
438, 478). — In my former contribution I said that
the controversy as to whether the music was
originally composed in England or in Germany
could never be satisfactorily decided; and I am
still of that opinion. So much has been written
on the topic that the columns of * N. & Q.' would
scarcely suffice to hold even a summary of the
various arguments.
MR. JULIAN MARSHALL has partly misrepre-
sented what I said, and he has introduced a para-
graph relating to the " Harmonious Blacksmith "
which has nothing to do with me or with the
question in hand. I merely alluded to the well-
known belief in Dr. John Bull as the composer,
without expressing any opinion as to its truth.
But the needless asperity of tone displayed by MR.
JULIAN MARSHALL is such that I will not enter
into any argument with him — I will simply ask
if any other contributor to ' N. & Q.' can bring
forward evidence to show that "God save the
King" (or Queen) was ever recognized as the
official royal march before the Elector of Hanover
was invited by the Whigs to become King of Great
Britain and Ireland,
' Rule Britannia/ * Scots wha hae,' ' St. Patrick's
Day/ and the 'March of the Men of Harlech' are
truly national songs, and breathe the spirit of
patriotism, whereas, in my humble opinion, " God
save the King" (or Queen) is not a national
anthem at all, but is simply a grand air wedded to
very inferior verse, expressive of loyalty and
attachment to a particular dynasty, both dynasty
and mqsio being of German origin. And I
maintain that this is a topic which could be dis-
cussed by educated gentlemen without any necessity
for the use of such terms as "fraud," "ridicule,"
"fables," or "absurdities."
WALTER HAMILTON.
Many varied statements have been made as to
the origin of the music of our national anthem.
In the ' Dictionary of Music and Musicians,' edited
by George Grove, D.C.L., the subject is largely
dealt with, without arriving at anything definite.
It is necessary, however, to deal with one paragraph
alone, for though the writer queried its contents,
they were nearer the truth than he was aware of.
He says : —
" Both words and tune have heen very considerably
antedated. They have been called ' the very words and
music of an old anthem that was sung at St. James's
Chapel for King James II.' [quoted from Victor's letter,
Oct., 1745]. Dr. Arne is reported to have said that it
was a received opinion that it was written for the
Catholic Chapel of James II. Dr. Burney says the same,
adding that for it to be sung in the Catholic Chapel of
James II. it must surely have been in Latin, of which no
traces could be found."
But all this is true in the main, and its first per-
formance recorded was under the following singular
and appropriate circumstances.
Upon 21 February, 1660, Samuel Pepys, Esq.,
went to Westminster Hall, where he saw the
members return to Parliament who had been
expelled by Col. Pride in 1648. This was the
first part of General Monk's scheme to propose the
restoration of Charles II. to the throne. Pepys
dined with Lord Crewe and then returned to
Westminster Hall, where he met Matthew Lock
and Henry Purcell, both eminent musical com-
posers, with whom he adjourned to a coffee-house
and sat in a room next the water, where they
spent an hour or two. Pepy's writes : —
" Here we had variety of brave Italian and Spanish
songs, and a canon for eight voices which Mr. Lock had
lately made on these words,1 Domine salvum fac Regem,'
and as they sang this loyal song they looked from the
window and saw the City from one end to the other with
a glory about it ; so high was the light of the bonfire?,
and the bells rang everywhere."
The tide of popular feeling had turned to the
king ; and next day Pepys observed " how
abominably Barebone's windows are broke again
last night." Thus it was the very hour in which
to sing " God save the King."
A fragment in "A Choice Collection of Lessons
for the Harpsichord or Spinnet, composed by the
late Mr. Henry Purcell, 1696," would seem to be
the canon as originally composed, and probably
found in MS. among Purcell's compositions and
loose papers published after his death and credited
to him. Seeing that Purcell was one of the loyal
party at the coffee-house when Lock's canon was
sung, his possession of it is easily accounted for.
The music of the canon is to be found in Grove's
' Dictionary of Music and Musicians/ vol. i. p. 606.
8«iS. XI. JAN. 2,'97.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
11
Other specimens of the air are given, but Pepys is
the one who connects words and air — and Pepys
may be relied upon. HILDA GAMLIN.
Camdon Lawn, Birkenhead.
Persons interested in the authorship of the
national anthem would do well to consult the corre-
spondence on the subject in the Gentleman's Maga-
zine, part i., 1796. The anthem was sung by Mr.
Sullivan at Mrs. Wiltshire's Assembly Rooms,
Bath, in November, 1745, the occasion being
His Majesty's birthday. The words were given
in the local journal of that date. Carey's son,
claiming in 1799 the authorship for his father,
states that the final verse was : —
Lord grant that General Wade
May by thy mighty aid
Victory bring !
May he sedition husb,
And like a torrent rush
Rebellious Scotch to crush,
God save the king !
Obviously the stanza was composed when
Wade was about to take the command of the
forces destined to crush the rebellion of 1745.
If so, it could not have been written by Henry
Carey, who died suddenly in 1743. In 1827
Mr. Richard Clark, a singer of note and secre-
tary to the London Glee Club, published a
work to prove that the anthem was written by
Ben Jonson and Dr. John Bull in 1607. John
Ashley, a musician of Bath, published a pam-
phlet ridiculing this contention, and maintaining
the claim of Henry Carey. W. T.
I have in my possession a book entitled 'An
Account of the National Anthem God save the
King/ published by W. Wnghfc» Fleet Street, in
1822. It is written by " Richd. Clark, Gentleman
of His Majesty's Chapels Royal, Deputy Vicar
Choral of St. Paul's Cathedral and of Westminster
Abbey, and Secretary to the Glee Club." I should
be glad to lend it to MR. JULIAN MARSHALL if he
would like to see it, and will favour me with his
address. A. M. D.
Blackheath.
A short time ago I was at Munich on Corpus
Ohristi Day and viewed the procession— the mo s
imposing in Europe, I believe, except, perhap s
that of Vienna. On the arrival of the King
Regent and his suite at the cathedral for the
early Mass, the band, to my surprise, played the
tune of our national anthem. I thought at first
that the British Minister was attending the ser-
vice, and that he was being thus complimented. I
was, however, informed by my host that the
Bavarians had recently adopted " God save the
Queen " as their national air. Is this so ?
J. B. R.
A COMPOUND ADJECTIVE (8th S. x. 473). — MR.
R. M, SPENCE quotes Prof. Masson's adjective,
made up of eight words (forty-three letters). He
asks, " Could the Germans beat this 1 " I should
like to draw his attention to a compound Ger-
man oath, appended in Fliegende Blatter, a few
years back, to a clever sketch of a Prussian colonel
in a fit of rage with his regiment, which has got
itself into hopeless confusion. The inscription
runs, " Oberst (nach einer Missgliickten Bewegung
des Regiments). HerrGotthimmelheiligkreuzbom-
benundgranatenmillionendonnerwetter." To round
this off he, being exhausted, adds, "Herr Adjutant,
fluchen sie weiter." W. H. QUARRELL.
Here is one that just matches Prof. Masson'a
in articulations : " The not-knowing-what-to-do-
with-their-money inhabitants of England" (West-
minster Beview, 1834, vol. xx. p. 267). Everybody
knows the humorous monsters of this class in the
* Rejected Addresses.' F. H.
Marlesford.
LORD MONSON, THE REGICIDE (8th S. x. 475).
— If your correspondent will turn to * N. & Q.,'
3rd S. vi. 252, he will find an inquiry entitled
' Hudibrastic Query/ in which the same lines are
quoted. The Editor of that day (September 24,
1864) furnished a long and interesting reply.
EVERARD HOME COLEMAN.
71, Brecknock Road.
SUBSTITUTED PORTRAITS (8th S. vii. 266, 314,
369, 452, 496 ; ix. 277, 371, 434, 458 ; x. 106).
— Under the title * The Apocryphal in Portraiture,1
an article, crammed with information on this
subject, appeared in Chambers's Journal for
27 September, 1856. JOHN T. PAGE.
5, Capel Terrace, Southend-on-Sea.
SHEEP-STEALER HANGED BY A SHEEP (8th S.
viii. 106, 170, 236, 334 ; ix. 475). —In ' The Den-
ham Tracts,' Folk-lore Society, 1895, pfc. ii.
p. 120, it is stated that there is a rock on the
north side of the Cheviots, looking towards Scot-
land, called the Hanging Stone. It is said that
it acquired this name from the circumstance that a
packman was once resting upon it, with his burden
of cloth too near the edge, when the pack slipped
over, and its belt, tightening round his neck,
strangled Jiim. The same thing happened to a
robber who was carrying off a stolen sheep, both
man and sheep being hanged.
F. C. BIRKBECK TERRY.
ASTROLOGICAL SIGNATURES (8th S. x. 49). —
Roderick O'Flaherfey, the antiquary and author of
' Oygia ' (born at Moycullin, Gal way, 1630), would
have some knowledge of astrology and occult
philosophy, both sciences being held in great
estimation by many of the studious of that period.
Respecting "Jly," it is impossible to decide
whether this is a correct copy without referring to
the original. It may be a contraction of July, or
intended for the seal or character pf the spirit of
12
NOTES AND QUERIES.
Mars and the sign of the planet Mars. The
writing of that date would not be " copper-plate,"
and the person who prepared it for the press might
consider "Jly" the best representation of the
JOHN RADCLIFFE.
CHURCHWARDENS (8th S. x. 77, 106).— By No.
Ixxxix. of Canons Ecclesiastical of 1603, which is
still in force, there are to be two churchwardens in
each parish, one to be chosen by the minister
and the other by the parishioners ; but in many
instances this rule has never been observed. For
instance, St. Andrew, Dublin ; Attleborough,
Norfolk; and three of the old city churches of
Norwich had, and maybe still have, three church-
wardens. Henley and Baling have two, but at
the former they are both appointed by the cor-
poration, and at the latter by the vestry, which
custom, by a notice in the Monthly Church Paper
of St. Mary's for May, 1884 and 1885, in my
possession, was then observed. At Doncaster one
is appointed by the vicar the other by the mayor.
For references to many interesting and valuable
communications to ' N. & Q.' on the election of
churchwardens, I would send MR. HUSSEY to
p. 14 of the last volume.
EVERARD HOME COLEMAN.
JOSEPH OR JOSIAS MILLER (8th S. viii. 25, 97).
— His widow survived him twenty-eight years.
Her burial is thus recorded in the London Chro-
nicle, Saturday, 12 July, to Tuesday, 15 July, 1766,
p. 50 : "Thursday were deposited in St. Clement's
Church- Yard, in the same grave with her husband,
the remains of Mrs. Miller, aged 83, relict of the
celebrated Joe Miller." DANIEL HIPWELL.
"FOREST CLOTH" (8th S. x. 335, 426).— The.
following remarks are contained in a pamphlet,
written by John Long, Dublin, in 1762, entitled
' The Golden Fleece ; or, some Thoughts on the
Cloathing Trade of Ireland' (the price of the
pamphlet, 40 pp., was a British sixpence). He
has some comparative remarks concerning the
trade in Yorkshire, and then observes : —
" There is another kind of cloth made, called Plains
or Forrest cloths, the Manufacture of these is also by
a laborious People, inhabiting an uncultivated Part of
the Country, consisting of a Ridge of Mountains called
Saddleworth. Contiguous to this lies Huddersfield,
another Mart and Repository for these Forrest cloths
which are sold to Merchants who finish and export
great Quantities of them to Ireland to the great Detri-
ment of the middling kind of Fabricks wrought up in
this Kingdom."
Our author gives no reason why the cloth is
called " forest cloth." RICHARD LAWSON.
Urmaton.
Halliwell, in his * Dictionary of Provincial
Words,' defines "forest-whites" to be a kind of
cloth mentioned in early statutes, and gives a
reference to Strutt, ii. 79.
The Rev. T. L. 0. Davies, in the ' Supplement-
ary English Glossary,' describes " Whites " to be a
name given to certain manufactured cloths, and
adds the following illustrations of its use : —
"Salisbury has Long Cloths for the Turkey trade,
called Salisbury Whites."— Defoe, ' Tour through Great
Britain,' i. 324.
"This town (Burstall, Suffolk) is famed for dyeing, and
there is made here a sort of cloth in imitation of Glou-
cester Whites, which tlio' they may not be so fine, yet
their colours are as good." — Ibid., iii. 146.
" This mystery (clothing) ia vigorously pursued in this
County ; and I am informed that as Medleys are most
made in other shires, as good Whites as any are woven
in this County."— Fuller, ' Worthies, Wilts,' ii. 435.
Thus it appears that *' whites" was a terra
applied to cloth in at least three English counties
during the seventeenth century.
EVERARD HOME OOLEMAN.
71, Brecknock Road.
[In Leeds is, or was, the White Cloth Hall, as opposed
to the Coloured Cloth Hall.]
PETER OF COLECHURCH (8th S. x. 397).— Is it
certain that there was any removal in 1832 ? It ap-
pears from the ' Annals of Waverley ' that he lay in
the chapel in 1205. But when Mr. Yaldwin saw
a tomb below the chapel staircase with remains in
1737 there was neither brass plate nor inscription nor
carving about the sepulchre, but " the remains of a
body in repairing the staircase ; though we know
from the ' Annals of Waverley,' p. 168, that the
reliques of Peter were certainly entombed in this
place " (' Chronicles of London Bridge,' R. Thom-
son, p. 65, 1839). Maitland ('Hist.,' p. 86),
states that the monument of Peter, " remarkable
only for its plainness," was below the chapel stair-
case (* Ohron.' u. s.). But on the occasion of the
opening in 1825 there is no mention of the removal
of the bones. ED. MARSHALL.
A SQQIB WANTED (8th S. x. 435).— I am glad
again to see a contribution from the valued corre-
spondent Miss BUSK, and I wish the subject had
been one on which all could have agreed. But
the fragment given conveys so very false an im-
pression of Gavazzi, that (as it might in future be
quoted from ' N. & Q.' as an authority) it is desir-
able a correct description of the looks and manner
of this effective orator should be put on record by
one who heard him forty years ago, and who sat
in front of him only a few feet distant.
Instead of being ugly, Gavazzi was a very fine-
looking man, above the common size, strong and
muscular. As he came on the platform he bowed
to the company, and sat down on a chair facing
them. With a very grave countenance he began
to speak in a low voice, which he gradually raised,
occasionally leaving his chair and taking a step or
two up and down the platform. After a few
minutes, as he warmed to his subject, he altogethe?
ceaaecl to sit, increasing in eloquence and pQw.es
8'h S. XI. JAN. 2, '97.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
13
as he increased in action, till the audience were
spell-bound, and he could sway them with a look
or a movement of his finger, for he was eloquent
with his hands also, which he made to speak a
language understood by most of his hearers. He
also used with much effect the folds of a large
black cloak, which he spread abroad or wound
about him. Now he poured forth a torrent of
scorn and indignation ; then he would allow his
voice to drop, as he described in solemn tones
some of the most harrowing and blood-curdling of
the tortures inflicted by the Inquisition, causing
his hearers to hold their breath for fear of losing a
word, till the sentence ended, when a sigh of relief
went round the room, while tears ran down the
cheeks of strong men. That is how I saw Gavazzi.
He had a slightly foreign accent, which was rather
pleasant than otherwise. The room (the largest in
the town) was crowded, and his reception was most
enthusiastic.
I have seen and heard many great actors, many
fashionable preachers, orthodox and otherwise,
many great political spouters, but Father Gavazzi
surpassed them all.
Surely to call any one " ugly " is a poor style
of argument, and unworthy even the lowest of
Oxford "undergrads." K. K.
Boston, Lincolnshire.
GIAOUR' (8th S. ix. 386, 418, 491; x. 11,
120, 240, 302).— This word is noticed by Maginn
in ' The Odoherty Papers/ Blackwood's Magazin.%
1822 :—
How plain folks roll'd their gogglers !
How the learned prov'd bogglera
At the name of ' The Giaour ' !
For sure ne'er to that hour
Did four-fifths of the vowels
Congregate in the bowels
Of a syllable single ;
Even yet, how to mingle
Their sounds in one's muzzle
Continues a puzzle.
RICHARD H. THORNTON.
Portland, Oregon.
So far the preponderance of the evidence seems
to be rather in favour of a guttural than of a
sibilant pronunciation. Cannot some indication
of Byron's own views on the subject be gathered
by experts from the following stanzas in canto vi.
of 'Don Juan'?—
" Besides, I hate to sleep alone," quoth ghe.
The matron frown'd : "Why so1?" "For fear of
ghosts,"
Replied Katinka : " I am sure I see
A phantom upon each of the four posts :
And then I have the worst dreams that can bo,
Of Guebres, Giaours, and Ginns, and Gouls, in hosts.'*
The dame replied, " Between your dreams and you,
I fear Juanna's dreams would be but few."
The four G'& (to the eye at all events) suggests
alliteration, and as the first and last G are unques-
tionably hard, would nofc the rhythm suffer by a soft ;
Cr after Guebres ? But here I am out of my depth,
and the experts will perhaps kindly pronounce.
H. E. M.
St. Petersburg.
A SAXON PEDIGREE (8th S. x. 473).— I do not
know for whose information this astonishing article
is written ; but I suppose it is intended for such
as are entirely innocent of any knowledge of Anglo-.
Saxon pronunciation and phonology. No one
else can be expected to swallow it.
WALTER W. SKEAT.
Why, oh, why did W. J. T., in the pedigree
taken from the ' Saxon Chronicle,' leave out that
delicious bit, " ' Bedwig of Sceaf,' that is the sou
of Noah ; he was born in Noah's Ark " ?
CHARLOTTE G. BOQEB.
Chart Button, Kent.
KOBIN AND DEAD CHILD (8th S. x. 452).— The
robin is frequently an omen of death or misfortune
in folk-lore. It was not for nothing that Scott
made it a robin "singing so rarely" that warned
" proud Maisie," in his exquisite little ballad.
C. C. B.
CUNOBELINUS OR ClMBELINE (8th S. X. 474).
— Is there any real evidence that Caractacus, as
MR. LYNN assumes, was the son of Cymbeline ? I
know it is said so by some historians, I believe
by Camden. There is no mention in Geoffrey of
Monmouth of any other sons besides Guideriua
and Arviragus. In the ' Triads ' Caractacus is said
to be the son of a Welsh prince named Bran.
J. FOSTER PALMER.
" FIGHTING LIKE DEVILS," &c. (8th S. x. 273,
340, 404). — With reference to the suggestion that
Charles Lever was the author of the ballad con-
taining these words, may I remark that from the
days of * Lilliburlero,' a famous song (said to have
been composed by Lord Wharton), that con-
tributed towards the revolution of 1688, a war of
ballads raged between the rival races and political
parties in Ireland ? ' The Wearing of the Green '
was answered by ' Croppies lie down,' and ' The
Shan van Voght ' by * Protestant Boys,' &c. ; and
both sexes followed the occupation of singing
ballads in the streets. Dublin was famous for its
singers in this line. Goldsmith, when a sizar,
poor and miserable, wrote— and was, indeed, glad
to sell — ballads. There is an illustration of him,
leaning against a lamp-post, listening to one of
them being sung by an old woman, in Forster's
c Life ' of the poet, vol. i. p. 27. As regards Lever
and " Fightin' like divils," following the example
of Goldsmith, he, too, was known to glide from
Trinity College at night on a kindred mission, as
he was certainly concerned in the composition of
street ballads, containing "gems of passionate
feeling, sparkling with native wit." Headers of
his novels cannot have failed to, notice the frequent
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
[8th S. XI. JAN. 2, '97.
use be made of ballads and ballad-singers. Lever,
however, ran the risk of punishment, on account
of the manner in which he referred to popular
persons. On one occasion he went the length of
singing in one of the most frequented streets in
Dublin a political song of his own composition. Of
course there was a row ; but a party of fellow
students were at hand to rescue the singer and
carry him off in triumph. I therefore think there
cannot be any doubt as to the authorship of —
Och ! Dublin city, there is no doubtin',
Bates every city upon the say ;
'Tis there you M hear O'Connell spoutin',
An' Lady Morgan makin' tay.
For 'tis the capital o' the finest nation,
Wid charming pisintry upon a fruitbful sod,
Fightin' like divils for conciliation,
An' Latin' each other for the love of God —
no more than there is about the name of the
person who wrote Mister Mickey Free's * Lament '
when he was sailing away from his beloved native
land —
Then, fare ye well, ould Erin dear,
To part — my heart does ache well ;
From Carrickfergus to Cape Clear
I '11 never see your equal.
And, though to foreign parts we 're bound,
Where cannibals may ate us,
We '11 ne'er forget the holy ground
Of poteen and potatoes.
When good St. Patrick banished frogs
And shook them from his garment,
He never thought we 'd go abroad
And live upon such varmint,
Nor quit the land where whisky grew,
To wear King George's button,
Take vinegar for mountain dew,
And toads for mountain mutton.
Clapham, S.W.
HENRY GERALD HOPE.
STEPHEN DUCK (8th S. x. 476). — I have a
small volume of thirty-two pages, the title-page
of which runs thus : —
" Poems on Several Subjects : Written by Stephen
Duck, Some time a poor Thresher in a Barn in the
County of Wilts, at the Wages of Four Shillings and
Six Pence per Week. Which were publickly Read by
the Eight Honourable Thomas Earl of Macclesfield,
in the Drawing Room at Windsor Castle, on Friday
the llth of September, 1730, to Her Majesty. Who
was thereupon most graciously pleased to take the
author into Her Royal Protection, by ordering him an
apartment at Kevv, near Richmond, in Surrey, to live
in ; and a salary of Thirty Pounds per Annum, for his
better support and maintenance."
This is dated 1731, is the eighth edition, and
was to be sold by T. Astley, at the " Rose," in St.
Paul's Churchyard, for sixpence.
A curious frontispiece shows the author standing
at a barn door, holding in his right hand the poems
of Milton, and in his left a flail. A table, on
which are books, pens, ink, and paper, stands in
front of him, whilst around are the somewhat incon-
gruous elements of a farmyard. There are some
commendatory verses at the end of the brochure
" on bis late Preferment by Her Majesty," con-
eluding thus : —
0 ! may she still new Favours grant
And make the Laurel thine !
Then shall we see next New Year's Ode
By far the last outshine.
As Colley Gibber was then the Laureate, it is
probable that Duck could have written a better
New Year's ode than he — it would certainly have
been very difficult to write a worse one. Duck
committed suicide by drowning himself near Head-
ing in 1756. WALTER HAMILTON.
" JOLLY " USED ABVERBIALLY (8th S. x. 233,
343). — The following early instance of "jolly"
used as an intensive adjective may be of interest ;
from J. Feme's ' Glorie of Generositie ' (1586),
p. 10:—
" I haue heard it receiued as good pollicie with wise-
men, to match, their sonnes, as it might be with a
veurers daughter, of the city by vs : for the increase of
their patrimony, A iolly helpe it is, when as a noble
Gentleman, through a liberall mind, hath something
shortned his reuenewes, to inlarge the same, by the
plentifulnes of their bagges."
BERNARD P. SCATTERGOOD.
Park Square, Leeds.
LINES ON OXFORD AND CAMBRIDGE (8th S. x.
496).— After the death, in 1714, of Dr. John
Moore, successively Bishop of Norwich and Ely,
his library of thirty thousand volumes was bought
by George I., and presented by him to the Uni-
versity of Cambridge. At about the same time
the attempt of the Old Pretender to recover the
throne met with so much sympathy at Oxford that
it was thought necessary to send a force of cavalry
there to overawe the University. In connexion
with these two events, Dr. Joseph Trapp, Professor
of Poetry in 1708, afterwards chaplain to Lord
Bolingbroke, and rector of Harlington, Middlesex,
and author of ' Prselectiones Poeticse ' and of a
Latin version of 'Paradise Lost,' wrote the fol-
lowing epigram : —
Our gracious Monarch viewed with equal eye
The wants of either University.
Troops he to Oxford sent, well knowing why,
That learned body wanted loyalty ;
But books to Cambridge sent, as well discerning
That that right loyal body wanted learning.
A somewhat different version has been ascribed
to Thomas Warton the elder, who was also Pro-
fessor of Poetry at Oxford and the father of Joseph
Warton, Head Master of Winchester, and of
Thomas Warton the younger, the historian of
English poetry : —
Our royal master saw with heedful eyes
The state of his two universities ;
To one he sends a regiment, for why?
That learned body wanted loyalty,
To the other books he gave, as well discerning
How much that loyal body wanted learning.
8th S. XI. JAN. 2, '97.]
NOTES AND QUERIES,
15
The retort on behalf of Cambridge was by
Sir William Browne, who became a physician at
Norwich : —
The King to Oxford sent a troop of horse,
For Tories own no argument but force ;
With equal care to Cambridge books he sent,
For Whigs allow no force but argument.
It should be added that George I. at a later
period extended his liberality to Oxford, and is
one of the benefactors for whom the University
gives thanks in the Bidding Prayer.
J. A. J. HOUSDEN.
Canonbury.
These lines are given as follows in * English
Epigrams,' by W. Davenport Adams (p. 107) : —
[On, a Regiment sent to Oxford, and a Present of Books
to Cambridge, by George 1. (1715).
The King, observing with judicious eyes
The state of both his universities,
To Oxford sent a troop of horse ; and why ?
That learned body wanted loyalty :
To Cambridge books he sent, as well discerning
How much that loyal body wanted learning.
Dr. Joseph Trapp (1679-1747).
From Nichols's * Literary Anecdotes ': —
Extempore Reply to the Above.
The King to Oxford sent a troop of horse,
For Tories own no argument but force ;
With equal skill to Cambridge books he sent,
For Whigs admit no force but argument.
Sir William Browne.
Dr. Johnson called this one of the happiest
extemporaneous productions he had ever met with.
A. C. W.
I believe the correct rendering of the lines to
which your correspondent SIR PATRICK MAX-
WELL refers are as follows : —
Lines sent from Oxford to Cambridge.
The King, beholding with judicious eyes
The state of both his universities,
To Oxford marched a troop of horse ; for why 1
That learned body wanted loyalty ;
To Cambridge he sent books, full well discerning,
How much that loyal body wanted learning.
The answer to this, sent from Cambridge, was
as follows : —
The King to Oxford marched a troop of horse,
Tories admit no argument but force ;
With equal care to Cambridge books he sent,
For Whigs allow no force but argument.
The king in question was William III. It is a
fact that he did at the same time send a troop of
horse to Oxford and a present of books to Cam-
bridge. 0. W. CASS.
AEROLITES (8th S. x. 50, 125).— In Symons's
Meteorological Magazine for February, 1896, p. 11,
referring to a report by Router's Agency of the
* Explosion of a Meteorite over Madrid/ on Mon-
day, 10 Feb., the editor thus writes : —
" We notice that Iteuter's Agency calls it an ' aerolite.'
We thought that an aerolite differed from a meteor or
meteorite in that the former was chiefly stone, the
latter chiefly iron and nickel ; but on turning to a dic-
tionary we find no distinction drawn between the two ;
and worse still, on looking into the best English book
upon the subject, Dr. Flight's ' Chapter in the History
of Meteorites,' we find the two words used indiscrimi-
nately."
CELER ET AUDAX.
BREVE AND CROTCHET (8th S. x. 496). — In the
Appendix to my ' Dictionary,' second edition,
p. 797, I give for crotchet the references,
u Catholicum Anglicum, p. 83 ; Towneley Mys-
teries, 116." I presume that the latter reference
is the very one to which E. S. A. alludes.
My " earliest examples" were only such as my
industry could collect for myself. The ' New
English Dictionary' very frequently has earlier
instances, but not always ; but it should always
be consulted for words beginning with A, B, C, D,
E, F. D and F are not quite finished, but are
well advanced. WALTER W. SKEAT.
MOTTO (8th S, x. 455).— -"A Passage perillus
makyth a Port pleasaunt." Mr. Kobert Christy,
in his * Proverbs, Maxims, and Phrases of All
Ages,' London, T. Fisher Unwin, 1888, vol. ii.
p. 143, gives a parallel motto, " The worse the
passage the more welcome the Port." It is in
Hazlitt also. J. B. FLEMING.
Kelvinside, Glasgow.
This motto is inscribed on the wall of a prison
in the Tower of London, above the signature
"Arthur Poole, A. 1568." Arthur Poole (the
great-grandson of George, Duke of Clarence,
brother to Edward IV.) was in 1562, with his
brother Edmund, committed to the Tower on a
charge of conspiring to place Mary Stuart on the
English throne, marry her to Edmund, and restore
Arthur to his great-grandfather's dukedom. They
were confined for life in the Beauchamp Tower.
(There is an engraving of the above inscription on
p. 761 of J. K. Green's ' Short History,' vol. ii.)
H. F. MOULE.
ESCHUID (8*" S. viii. 409, 452 ; ix. 53, 152,
218 ; x. 83).— See Symons's Meteorological Maga-
zine for September and November, 1896.
CELER ET AUDAX.
CHANGE OF RELIGION (8tb S. x. 437).— Adopt-
ing St. Augustine's opinion of his total apostacy,
may we not regard Solomon as an early example
of matrimonial conversion ?
EDWARD H. MARSHALL, M.A.
Hastings.
PITT CLUB (8th S. viii. 108, 193; ix. 13, 116; x.
461). — The famous lyric ' The Pilot that weathered
the Storm ' was written by Mr. Canning for the
first meeting of the Pitt Club, originated by him
on the retirement of Pitt from office in 1801. Pitt
died January 23, 1806, and on his death Canning
said, " My political allegiance lies buried in his
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s. xi. JAN. 2/97.
grave." It would seem that, chiefly after his death,
Pitt Clubs were founded in many important
towns, and that in Manchester there was a very
well-known one. In the 'Manchester School
Kegister,' in a memoir of Dr. Smith, for thirty
years high master of the school, it is said :—
"In politics he was an adherent through life of the
Tory party, and of course a member of the Manchester
Pitt Club. Soon after coming to Manchester (i. e., about
1807) he was elected a member of the then very exclu-
sive club meeting at the Mosley Street Assembly
Rooms" (vol. iii. p. 6).
[ can remember many years ago, in my boyish
days, a large plaster-of- Paris medallion of the cele-
brated statesman round which ran an inscription,
' Manchester Pitt Club." At that time, being fond
of scientific pursuits, I submitted a wax cast of it
to the electrotyping process.
JOHN PICKFOKD, M.A.
Newbourne Rectory, Woodbridge.
ACCENTS IN FRENCH (8th S. x. 457).— The fol-
lowing remarks may be of use to your correspond-
ent. Accents were unknown in Old French. They
were introduced by the grammarians of the six-
teenth century, in imitation of the Greek accents,
which were intended to mark intensity of pronun-
ciation.
The circumflex accent usually denotes a syllable
that has become long by the suppression of a letter,
as in fete for feste, &c. It is also placed on long
Greek and Latin vowels, as dome (Sw/xa) ; but
pole (TroAos) is incorrect. This came into use
towards the end of the seventeenth century.
Accents in literature sometimes only serve to
distinguish words thab are pronounced the same,
as ou and oh, la and la.
The cedilla comes from the Italian zediglia, a
crotchet shaped like a z, which the Italians placed
under c to give it the sound of s and z. This sign
came into general use in France at the beginning
of the sixteenth century.
The trema (Greek rprf/m) placed on vowels
indicates that the second has a pronunciation
distinct from the first. It was first employed in
the sixteenth century.
In French the tonic accent always falls on the
last syllable of a word except when that syllable is
mute, when it falls on the penultimate. In Old
French, when accents were unknown, the last
syllable which was accentuated always ended in a
consonant ; and even now there is fluctuation in
such forms as cU and clef, dine and diner, soupe
and semper, pie (which appears in Lamartine) for
P™d. CECIL WILLSON.
Weybridge.
* ANECDOTES OF BOOKS AND AUTHORS ' (8th S.
x. 336, 400).— My copy of Beloe's 'Sexagenarian'
formerly belonged to John Nichols and his son, John
Bowyer Nichols, who have enriched it with many
annotations and a fairly complete key. I cannot
find that the name of the clergyman of whom the
story is told at i. 148 is mentioned in any key
which I have come across ; but although the name
of the printer as given by Beloe is certainly
Bowyer, a pen has been drawn through it by Mr.
John Nichols, and that of Strahan has been sub-
stituted. Considering the relations in which the
Nichols family stood with Mr. Bowyer, and the
friendship which existed between John Nichols
and Strahan, the authority of the author of
'Literary Anecdotes of the Eighteenth Century7
must be held to be conclusive.
The 'Sexagenarian,' though somewhat out of
date, is still a most amusing work, and it is not
strange that its stores should have been rifled by
the compilers of ' Percy Anecdotes,' ' Books and
Authors,' and similar collections. Stories such as
that of Mary Hayes, a young lady who was "a
friend of the Wolstonecroft, a follower of Helvetius,
and a great admirer of Kousseau," and the short
resume of the novel written by her are sufficient
to prove that we are quite mistaken in thinking
that the " new woman " is a product of the last
decade of the nineteenth century. The heroine of
the novel in question — a " woman who did " with a
vengeance — might have emerged from the portals
of the Bodley Head. Keys to Beloe were pub-
lished in ' N. & Q.,' 2nd S. x. 300 ; xi. 33, 93 ; but
as a period of five-and-thirty years has since
elapsed, I should be glad, if the Editor could afford
the space, to print a fuller and more authoritative
list than has hitherto appeared, after a careful
collation of the names in Nichols's key with those
in all the others to which I have access.
W. F. PRIDEAUX.
Kingsland, Shrewsbury.
This story, I feel sure, is told in one of the
volumes of Nichols's * Literary Anecdotes ' ; I
believe in that relating to Bowyer. W. 0. B.
FOVILLA (8th S. x. 435).— No doubt MR.
BRADLEY is acquainted with fovela, used by
Tertullian (Smith's 'Latin-English Dictionary').
There is also foveola, which occurs in Vines's
' Text-Book of Botany ' (1894),
EDWARD H. MARSHALL, M.A.
Hastings.
SIMON GuYNyEus (8tb S. x. 495). — I have in my
library a good biography of Simon Grynseus, from
which I beg to send you the following extracts : —
" In 1531 he took a journey into England, and carried
with him a recommendatory letter from Erasmus to
William Mountjpy, dated Friburg, 18 March, 1531. After
desiring Mountjoy to assist Grynseus as much as he
could, in showing him libraries, and introducing him
to learned men, Erasmus adds, ' Est Lpmo Latine
Graeceque ad unguem doctus, in philosophia et mathe-
maticis, disciplinis diligenter versatus, nullo supercilio,
pudore pene immodico. Pertraxit hominem istuc Bri-
tnnniae vieendae cupiditas, sed prsecipue Bibliothecarum
SB'S. XI. Jin. 2, '97.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
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vestrarum amor. Rediturus est ad nos,' &c Erasmus
recommended him also to Sir Thomas More, from whom
he received the highest civilities He returned to
Basil in 1536 His edition of Plato was addressed to
John More, the Chancellor's SOD, as a testimony of
gratitude for favours received from his father; and as
the following passage in the dedication shows Sir Thomas
as well as Grynaeus in a very amiable light, we think it
not amiss to insert it here."
This dedication being rather long, I will only
send you a few concluding lines, as they relate
particularly to his Oxford visit : —
" He likewise sent me to Oxford with one Mr. Harri?,
a 'learned young gentleman, and recommended me so
powerfully to the University, that at the sight of his
letters all the libraries were open to me, and I was
admitted to the most intimate familiarity with the
students."
0. LEESON PRINCE.
P.S. — I enclose for your acceptance a photo-
graph of his portrait. Observe the MS. in his
hand, and the grasping spider in the corner.
[Receipt of the portrait is acknowledged, with thanks.]
Refer to the valuable but forgotten Chalmers
for a mention of the supposed theft, which the
editor refuses to believe in.
EDWARD H. MARSHALL, M.A.
Hastings.
LAURENCE HYDE, EARL OF ROCHESTER (8th S.
x. 496), was buried in Westminster Abbey, at the
foot of the steps going up to King Henry VII. 's
Chapel. He married Lady Henrietta Boyle, fifth
daughter of Richard, first Earl of Burlington,
one of the beauties of her time. There were
five children of this marriage, viz,, Henry, second
Earl of Rochester and fourth Earl of Clarendon ;
Anne, who became the Countess of Ossory ; Hen-
rietta, who married James, Earl of Dalkeith ;
Mary, who became the wife of Francis Seymour,
Lord Con way ; and Catherine, who died unmarried
on 19 July, 1737. See Chester's ' Westminster
Abbey Registers,' G. E. C.'s 'Complete Peerage,'
and Burke's 'Extinct Peerage.' None of these
authorities makes any mention of a second mar-
riage. G. F. R. B.
TOPOGRAPHICAL COLLECTIONS FOR COUNTIES
(8tb S. ix. 361, 497 ; x. 32).— No list of topographical
collections for counties can be complete without
the Rev. Canon Mayo's excellent * Bibliotheca
Dorsetiensis. ' I can only imagine that its absence
from the list given by G. W. M. arises from the
fact of its having been printed privately by sub-
scription. Apparently a publisher's name is neces-
sary to render a work famous. J. S. UDAL.
Fiji.
The very valuable index issued by the Historical
MSS. Commission, to which I could not pre-
viously give the reference, is No. 31 of ' Accounts
and Papers, 1890-1. It was issued 8 Dec., 1890.
Q V.
"FEER AND FLET" (8th S, x. 76, 166, 339,
422).— The stanza quoted by MR. TERRY from
Hardwick's ' Traditions, Superstitions, and Folk-
lore' belongs to the well-known 'Lyke Wake
Dirge,' which was first printed by Sir Walter
Scott in the second volume of his ' Minstrelsy of
the Scottish Border/ 1802. The first stanza of
Scott's version runs as follows : —
This ae nighte, this ae nighte,
Every nighte and alle,
Fire, and sleet, and caridle-lighte,
And Christe receive thye saule.
Sir W. Scott supposed the word "sleet" to be
" corrupted from selt or salt," which was formerly
placed, in compliance with a popular superstition,
on the breast of a corpse ; but there is an earlier
version of this remarkable poem, which was found
by Sir Henry Ellis among Aubrey's MSS., and
printed by him in his edition of Brand in 1813.
In this version, which was reprinted with greater
correctness in 1881 in the Folk-lore Society's
edition of Aubrey's * Remaines of Gentilisme and
Judaisme,' p. 31, the first stanza is as follows :—
This can night, this ean night,
Every night and awle :
Fire and Fleet and Candle-light,
And Christ recieve thy Sawle.
Here the word " fleet " undoubtedly means water,
and I agree with MR. TERRY in thinking that in
the deed cited by MR. FERET the condition that
the Widow Opwyk should have " feer and flet " in
her dwelling-house merely means that she should
have the right of fire and water therein. The
expression was probably a legal commonplace in
early times. W. F. PRIDEAUX.
Kingsland, Shrewsbury.
SIR JOHN JERVIS, CHIEF JUSTICE OF THE
COMMON PLEAS (7tb S. ix. 48).— So far back as
the above reference information was sought con-
cerning this judge, who died in 1856, but no
answers seem to have been returned. In the
course of my rather miscellaneous reading I find
him alluded to in Gunning's ' Reminiscences of the
University and Town of Cambridge ' as having in
early life a good deal of money at command to spend
on elections at Chester, a city which he represented
for many years in Parliament. In the ' Life and
Letters of the Rev. Fred. W. Robertson,' by the
Rev. Stopford A. Brooke, Mr. Robertson mentions
in a "Letter" (cxxxviii., vol. ii. p. 133) his having
filled the office of High Sheriff's chaplain at Lewes,
in Sussex, in 1852, when Sir John Jervis presided
in the Crown Court at the assizes, and of him Mr.
Robertson observes : —
"His charges to the jury surpassed in brilliance,
clearness, interest, and conciseness, anything I ever
could have conceived. The dullest cases became inter-
esting directly he began to speak— the most intricate
and bewildered clear. I do not think above one verdict
was questionable in the whole thirty-six cases which he
tried."
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NOTES AND QUEKIES.
[8"> g. xi. JAN. 2, 'i,7.
As a special instance of his cleverness and
Bagacity, the story is narrated of the card-sharping
case. The counsel had affirmed that a perfectly
fair pack of cards had been used; but when they
were handed up to him Sir John told, without
looking at their faces, the names of the cards. He
then pointed out that on the backs there was a
small dotted flower indicating the court cards.
This story has frequently been told. But laudari a
laudato viro is a feather even in the cap of a Chief
Justice. Mr. Robertson died in 1853 (only a year
afterwards), Sir John Jervis in 1856, and the
decease of the latter is thus alluded to in the
Prologue to the Westminster Play of that year —
the ' Andria':—
Verum et ipsa victimaa
Pax habet, et nostris baud alienos sedibua
Sunt quos lugemus — Ilium, qui eummus modo
Judex vicino praesidebat in foro.
' Lusus Alter! Westmonasterienses,' vol. ii. p. 141.
I have not been able to discover the place of his
burial, but it easily could be found. His age was
only fifty-four. JOHN PICKFORD, M.A.
Newbourne Rectory, Woodbridge.
Louis PHILIPPE (8th S. x. 495, 524).— MR.
PEET does not save Dr. Hugh Macmillan, whose
words as quoted imply that Louis Philippe was
successor by inheritance to a king. But there is
no foundation for MR. PEET'S suggestion either.
Louis Philippe as a young man was singularly
like his father, as the famous picture at Chantilly
of the hunt before the Revolution, with the Due
d'Orleans and the Due de Chartres (Louis Philippe)
in "pink," well shows. Moreover Egalite"'s wife
was a lady of far too high character to lend herself
to a " warming-pan plot," which would have had,
in this instance no object. D.
The suggestion conveyed by the words attributed
to Dr. Hugh Macmillan, that Louis Philippe was
' ' common " in looks, is absurd. He was one of
the most beautiful children and handsomest youths
of his time, as witness the signed drawing by
Cosway and the chalk sketch by Carl Vernet
(1787), both at Chantilly.
CHARLES W. DILKE.
The revival, even in a sermon for children, of the
fable of Louis Philippe being a changeling is really
amazing. No doubt Maria Stella Petronilla,
married first to the Earl of Newborough and
secondly to Baron Sternberg, believed the story of
her putative father, Ciappini, that he received her
in exchange for his son from the Duke of Orleans,
travelling in Italy under the name of Comte de
Joinville. It is also true that she obtained a
recognition of her claims from the tribunal of
Faenza. But neither the French tribunals nor
the public credited so improbable and purposeless
an exchange. Dr. Macmillan, moreover, shows
singular ignorance of French history in styling her
" the real child of the French king," for the man
whom she claimed as her father was the Duke of
Orleans, " lilgalite'," who was never king, and
could never have foreseen that his son would
ascend the throne. Louis Philippe had his faults,
public and private, but to call him " ignoble " is
monstrous, while to ascribe his ignobility, if I may
use the word, to his being the son of Ciappini,
and yet to confide in Ciappini's veracity, is
illogical. J. G. ALGER.
Paris.
DUKE OF GLOUCESTER (8tb S. x. 515). — Prince
William Henry, Duke of Gloucester, was son of
Anne of Denmark, afterward Queen of England.
He was born 24 July, 1689, and died 29 July,
1700. Purcell composed a birthday cantata or
ode for the duke's birthday festival in 1695.
There is a portrait of the child prince and his
mother, by Michael Dahl, in the National Portrait
Gallery. W. H. CUMMINGS.
THE MAN OF GHENT (8tb S. x. 415, 499).—
Surely Guizot ! I wonder that no one has remem-
bered this ; but such things are soon forgotten. I
quite well recall this title of him, commonly quoted
by English newspapers from French during the
later years of his ministry, and I carried a vague
impression that it had reference to some commercial
treaty between France and Belgium, executed by
him, or under his auspices, at Ghent. On looking
into his ( Memoirs,' I find that during the three or
four years from 1841 the question of a customs-
union between the two countries was much dis-
cussed : opposed by England and other powers, as
tending to the absorption of Belgium into France.
In the year 1845 a milder form of commercial
treaty was ratified, probably displeasing to a
great number of Frenchmen, as a concession to
foreign jealousy ; but I cannot find any mention
of Ghent in connexion herewith. Such works of
Guizot's as I have consulted, both in the original
and in translation, are indictable under Lord Camp-
bell's Act as criminally destitute of index.
0. B. MOUNT.
EARLY NEWSPAPERS (8tb S. x. 256). — The
Mercurius Theologicus, 1700, contains cata-
logues of books "printed for, and sold by,
John Taylor, at the Ship in St. Paul's Church-
yard." There are advertisements of books
in the Mercurius Reformatus, 1689. Both
periodicals are to be seen at the British
Museum, as well as the English Intelli-
gencer, 1679, Mercurius Britannicus, Mercurius
Domesticus, Mercurius Politicus, Mercurius
Veridicus, Mercurius Infernus, and many
other publications (political tracts, pamphlets,
newspapers, and almanacs), with similar titles and
of about the period indicated by B. P. S., cata-
logued in the Burney Collection and elsewhere;
but I cannot find an Index Intelligencer nor a
8, XI. JAN. 2, '97.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
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Mercurius Clericus in any of the lists. The sets
mentioned above are, for the most part, far from
complete. E. G. CLAYTON.
Richmond.
In the Strand Magazine for September, 1896,
there is a paper by F. G. Kitton, entitled " Some
Old Newspapers. From Charles I. to Queen
Victoria. Illustrations from Old Prints, Paintings,
and Facsimiles." CELER ET AUDAX.
By Timperley's * Dictionary of Printers and
Printing,' No. 1 of the Mercurius Clericus; or,
News from Syra, for September 17 to 24, was
issued in 1647, but when it ceased to be published
is not noted. EVERARD HOME COLEMAN.
AUTHORS OF QUOTATIONS WANTED (8th S. ix.
49).—
Non annorum canities est laudanda, sed morum.
This quotation is given in the foot-note to the following
line in the Dolphin edition of Plautus : —
Non aetate, veruin ingenio adipiscitur sapientia.
' Trinummi,' ii. 2, 88.
"Non annorum," &c., is there attributed to Ambrosius;
but it is not stated where in his works it occurs. Com*
pare " Nihil turpius est, quam grandis natu senex, qui
nullura aliud habet argumentum, quo se probet diu
vixisse, praeter setatem " (Seneca, «De Tranquillitate
Animi,' iii. sec. 7). Compare also Proverbs xvi. 31;
also Cicero, ' De Senectute,' xviii. sec. 62, " Non cani,
non rugae,' ' &c. ROBERT PIKKPOINT.
NOTES ON BOOKS, &0.
A Scots Mediaeval Architect. By P. Macgregor Chalmers.
(Glasgow, Hodge & Co.)
WE welcome this work gladly. With the exception of
the preface, which, like those to some of Scott's novels,
is a "wee bit ower modest," we cannot find anything
whatsoever with which to find fault. We well remember
the substance of its pages appearing in Scots Lore, a
periodical which, we are sorry to say, has ceased to
appear. So far as our memory serves us, we have some-
what more in the present issue than in its predecessor.
It used to be said that, while the names of all the im-
portant Renaissance architects had been preserved for
the admiration of posterity, nearly all those of the earlier
times had been forgotten, in those days monastic
chronicles and fabric rolls were but scantily used, and
the great treasure which we have of national records
was, we may say, almost without exaggeration, unknown
to any one, save the keepers of the various repositories
where they slumbered. Things have changed now, for
though very much still remains to be done, arrangement
and the work of the cataloguer have made so much pro-
gress that, if sufficient industry be used, much new know-
ledge will be produced relating to the history of not a
few of our nobler ecclesiastical buildings. So far as
research has at present gone, it still remains true that
the architects to whom we owe so much are nearly all
forgotten, or, if their names have been come upon, they
stand alone, like the list of jurors at the top of an old
manor court roll, without personal details, so that we may
think of them as men who once lived and suffered. This
seems the more singular when we call to mind that our
Saxon and early Norman coins almost always, bore upon
them the names of the moneyers by whom they were
struck, and that this was a custom not confined to this
island.
Whether this almost universal suppression of the
names of architects arose from religious feeling or from
mere modesty, we are not in a position to decide;
it ie, however, a noteworthy fact which should not be
forgotten by students of mediaeval life. If we under-
stand Mr. Chalmers aright, there are but two examples
of architects commemorating themselves in all Scot-
land. One of these is John Morow, whose name is
found on a panel let into the wall at Melrose. There is
another inscription over a doorway which has been read
in various ways. Mr. Chalmers thinks, and we believe
rightly, that the name is Johne Moryo, and that the two
spellings indicate the same person, and that the true
name in modern spelling is Murray. This John Morow
for so he frequently spelt his name, however he may
have pronounced it— flourished in the middle of the fif-
teenth century. He is to be found at Melrose and Pais-
ley, and Mr. Chalmers has traced his handiwork in the
Cathedral of Glasgow " in the beautiful Rood Screen, in
the vaulting of the Aisle of Car Fergus, and in the vault-
ing of the aisles of choir and nave." He turns up, too,
in Nithsdale, Galloway, and St. Andrews. We have
evidently before us, even if Mr. Chalmers should some-
times be in error in his identifications — and we have no
reason for thinking he is — an active, ardent, serviceable
man, with a deep sense for beauty of form and great
constructive ability. Of such a man it is desirable to
know far more than we do at present. He seems to have
been one of those active and intelligent Scots who in
recent days have done so much for their own country.
The author believes that the John Morow whose inscrip-
tions yet remain can be identified with the John Murray
who in 1479, in company with others, took a lease of
lands in Ettrick. He was evidently a favourite at Court,
for on one occasion James IV. gave him twenty angels
to buy a horse. The records show many dealings of
John Murray with the Crown ; but the friendship shown
to him by the sovereign raised up powerful enemies. In
1510, while on his way to the Sheriff Court at Selkirk
he was assaulted by an armed band of Kerrs and Scotts
and assassinated. All of us who love Scottish ballad
poetry know ' The Outlaw Murray.' Mr. Chalmers has
no doubt that it relates in some way to the great
architect and feudal proprietor. He even suggests that
Murray himself may have been the author of the ballad
but for this he produces no evidence.
Calendar of the State Papers relating to Ireland of the
Reign of Elizabeth. Edited by Ernest George Atkinson.
(Stationery Office.)
THE history of Ireland has always been known to be dis-
tressing to every humane man. There is probably no
fifteen months during the whole long agony more terrible
than those included in the present volume. Of the
mediaeval time we know comparatively little; but of
that little the national historians have seldom made
good use. Now that the State Papers are being made
accessible we find that seas of bloodshed and nameless
horrors have been passed over in a few pages, some-
times even in a line or two. The few months which
went before and followed after the great battle of Ar-
magh abound with incidents so shocking that we shrink
from dwelling on them.
The partial subjection of Ireland to England Lad been
a long-standing grievance, which caused much suffering ;
but it was not until the latter years of the sixteenth
century that the cup of national agony was filled to the
brim. England bad become powerful enough to deter-
mine on the subjection of the whole island. The long
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
L8tt S. XI. JAN. 2, '97.
war with France and the Wars of the Roses had come to
an end in what seemed a remote past. They only
lingered in the minds of the people as a vague tradition.
England had, with some relapses, been increasing in
wealth, and her people in military ardour. During the
Middle Ages there had been race hatred and land
hunger; but it was not until the reign of Henry VIII.
that a third force — perhaps the most potent of the three
— was added. The Protestant rulers of England deter-
mined to compel the Irish to discard their old ways of
thinking on religious subjects, and to accept a Church
modelled on that of England. It is, perhaps, unreason-
able for us, who live in times when the doctrine of
universal toleration is received in civilized lands as one
of the first principles of government, to blame our fore-
fathers of three centuries ago for not being able to
understand what we see BO clearly now. Elizabeth was
no worse than other potentates. All of them, when they
had the power, tried to enforce uniformity of faith by
civil penalties ; but we do not remember any other case
in Christian Europe where the results have been attended
by so long a train of misfortunes.
When the battle of Tyrone was fought, by which an
old Welsh prophecy, " that the Earl of Tyrone should
prevail against the English nation," seemed to have
been fulfilled, nothing remained to be done but, at what-
ever expenditure of cost, to conquer the Irish nation ;
but, as the editor states, "Vacillation, corruption, and
division marked the course of the State." How far this
was the fault of the queen herself, or how far it rested
on her advisers, we are not in a position to state. She
was a fearless woman, who, as it seems to us, would have
done her best ; but the tide of corruption was too strong
for her. More than two centuries had to pass by ere
common honesty could be made to prevail. That there
were many honest men among her servants in Ireland
we do not question ; but it is evident that a preponder-
ance of men who went over did so merely to advance
their fortunes. The great Irish victory of Armagh may
be regarded as the centre of the lurid picture which
these papers give us. Iii one instance we hear of Lady
Moore being made prisoner, stripped of her clothing,
and left to die of cold in a bog. In other instances we
hear of the brains of little infants being dashed out,
of hearts being torn from living bodies, and many other
horrors we do not care to speak of. These things were
done by what used to be called the " mere Irish." Can
we feel certain— nay, can we hope — that acts equally
detestable were not performed by the English soldiery.
The editing of the volume is all that we could wish,
and we are glad to find at the end of the preface a
list of proverbs and out - of - the - way words, which
will be of much use to students of the speech of former
days.
Colonial Days in Old New York. By Alice Morse
Earle. (Nutt.)
To most English students of folk-lore this volume, de-
scribing life in what was once known as the New
Netherlands, opens out a new field. It supplies a picture
of Dutch habits, manners, rhymes, modes of thought.
To the present day, says Miss Earle, Dutch influence
and Dutch traits, as well as Dutch names, are ever
present and are a force in New York life. Wholly
unlike anything to be seen in England, or in many parts
of America, is the life depicted, and the volume may be
studied with interest and advantage as well as with
amusement.
Whitaker s Almanack for 1897. By Joseph Whitaker,
F.S.A. (Whitaker.)
AMONG the new features of this most indispensable of
companions to the desk and the shelf are au. index to
former issues, 1869-96, an alphabetical arrangement of
Government offices, the addition of new orders to the
Orders of Knighthood, and an enlarged list of fares.
A special article is added on the longest reign. A per-
petual calendar, for finding the day of the week at any
time from the creation, also appears. Of this, in another
shape, we have made frequent use. Tho Almanack will bo
warmly welcomed.
THE fourth part of Naval and Military Trophies
(Nimmo) gives, in Mr. Gibbs's admirably artistic coloured
designs, a tiger's head from the throne of Tippoo Sultan,
from the royal collection, Windsor Castle ; the creese of
the Rajah of Assam, and a splendid powder-horn, and
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LONDON, SATURDAY, JANUARY 9, 1897.
CONTENTS.— N° 263.
NOTES:— Home Tooke's Diary, 21— The Guillotine, 22—
Law Stationer — An Anomalous Parish, 24 — Weather Folk-
lore—Dialect—Jean Btienne Henry— " Hummer Nick":
" Humbug," 25 — Portrait of Eobert Harley — Eousseau
and ' Hudibras '— Letheringham Priory—' Tom Brown's
Schooldays '—Evening Services, 26.
QUERIES :— Eagles Captured at Waterloo-
Nelson — Matagon — Cupplestown — Earl
Laurence Litchfield— Church of Scotland-
— J. GK Whittier — The Germanic Diet -
Browning— Pope's Epitaph on Mrs. Corbet
—Statistics of Imposture— Westchester —
St. Gregory, 28 — Hannah More — Ritchie
Robert Hales— Proverb, 29.
Thomas Bolas —
of Anuandale-
-"Pasesying,"27
- Retort — Robert
— (Jagots— Clarel
Places in Stoke
of Craigtown-
REPLIES :— Religious Dancing, 29—" They will never cut
off my head," &c. — "Wayzgoose" — Dairymaids' Hair —
Ancient Cycling — Spider Folk-lore, 30 — John Hart —
"Hear, hear!"— T. G. Killigrew, 31— Theatre in Totten-
ham Court Road — 'Robin Adair' — Butler Cole— Wave
Names — "As plain as a pike-staff," 32— Author Wanted —
Position of Communion Table — Gibbet Hill— " Parson's
nose" — Moravia: Stirling: Lindsay, 33 — " Onna Dfiw" —
Shelta — "Paul's purchase," 34 — John Logan — English
Liturgy — Landguard Fort — Oak Boughs— Cowdray, 85—
Peacock Feathers — "Forester" — English and Scotch
Students at Padua— " Pinaseed "—" Leave off": "Aback,"
36— Abraham Lincoln— Wyvill — Hayne— English Religious
Brotherhoods— Rev. G. A. Firth— Eastbury House, 37.
NOTES ON BOOKS :— ' Dictionary of National Biography,'
Vol. XLIX.— Reviews and Magazines.
Notices to Correspondents.
HOENE TOOKE'S DIARY.
I lately had entrusted to me an interleaved
copy of the first edition of the * Diversions of
Parley,' with notes and emendations for the second
edition in the author's handwriting. The most
interesting feature in the book, however, lay in a
rough diary, kept by Home Tooke from May to
October, 1794, whilst he was a prisoner in the
Tower, awaiting his trial for high treason, extracts
from which I now give for the readers of * N. & Q.'
Since the author's death the volume remained con-
tinuously in the possession of his descendants or
kinsmen till some fifteen years ago, when it passed
by will to the late owner, whose executor kindly
lent it to me. The writing is in places somewhat
crabbed and difficult to decipher : —
Thursday, May 15. Dine at Pearson's. Joyce's
letter. May 16, 1794. Friday at Noon apprehended
by Swift, 1'olice Officer, Marlborough Street, Glitton,
clerk, Thornton, clerk, & 3 constables, Kennedy one of
them. At the Treasury at 3. Nepean's civility. Reeves
must hang me; but wished I might live afterwards.
Privy Council at | past 8. Privy Council before whom
I stood — Dundas, Grenville, Buckingham, Amherst,
Bayham, Staffordshire, Chancellor & 2 or 3 others —
Reeves, Fawkener, Ford, &c.
Dundas " It is conceived," &c., " constitutional & corre-
sponding societies, of loth of which you are an active
and leading member," &c. My answer, "Refuse to be
examined except some charge."
Nepean. Cause my place of Confinement,
Monday, May 19. To Tower.
Tuesday, 20. Hunter asks me to write to Nepean.
Kinghorn refused pen & ink.
Wednesday, 21. Newspapers, &c., forbidden.
Thursday, 22. Kinghorn will answer me from Gover»
nour about care of my family.
Friday, 23. He will answer in a few days. Iron bars
put up at the Window. Felix Vaughan has order from
Privy Council to see me in prescence of Gaoler; King-
horn being absent he saw me in prescenoe of Capt.
Bruhl of the guards in garrison.
Sat., May 24. I received from Vaughan's servant by
order of Privy Council Pens, Ink, Paper, Tea, Sugar,
Lozenges for my cough. Lodgings at Burford's. N.B.
Government allows 13s. 4rf. per week.
Mon., May 26. N.B. Governour opened my child's letter
(Charlotte's) & sent it open by Kinghorn. Nepean
would not open. Two new Warders, Bouguette & Pear-
son. F. Vaughan paid me a visit of £ an hour. King-
horn's watch in his hand. I gave him my Keys. Mr.
Ford, the Justice, brought a letter to me from the Privy
Council demanding my Keys, & he shewed me his
authority (signed Dundas) for inspecting & taking my
books & papers. Mr. Ford told me, he was directed
not to take or to trouble himself about sedition or
seditious papers but confine himself to the discovery of
Treason, & especially the Treason of a Convention.
Tuesday, May 27. My apartment changed from Bur-
forde's where I had a walk on the wall of 8$ yards by
1£ for the air : and I was escorted by gentleman Gaoler,
2 Warders & a file of Musqueteera to Mould's house.
Burford & Mould both are Warders. I understand all
the other prisoners have one Warder ; but I have alwaya
Two, besides the Warder of the House, and a Centinel
always at the door. The two Warders always sit in the
same room with me ; & always lie all night in the same
room with me. I am daily visited twice : i. e.t morning
& evening by Kinghorn, Gentleman Gaoler, once by
the Officers of the Garrison, & three times by a Serjeant
sometimes four times. For my Close Stool I had an
order from, Privy Council, the same for my snv$, the
same for my shirts, stocks, stockings and handkerchiefs.
[N.B. I learn (from Vaughan) that London Evs Post of
Monday May 27, says " that the Prisoners in the Tower
have each a Counsel & Solicitor permitted to see them."
This falsehood is probably inserted in other papers.]—
N.B. GIBBS.
Wednesday, May 28. Vaughan visited me the 3rd time.
Kinghorn sat dote. He says he has the Governor's
order to hear every syllable that passes. Vaughan
returned me key of my linen drawers : Ford kept key of
bookcases, &c., & would return them tomorrow. He took
away about thirty of my private letters (amongst which
one to me from Cowper) most of them dated 1792, a
letter signed Regulus, &c. The closet where executor-
ship papers, Sir Rob1 Bernard's, & my large travelling
trunk, were, was locked up by Ford & the key taken
away by Mr. Ford. Mr. Vaughan said Mr. Ford had
dismissed Thornton (the Police Officer) from my house.
So that Constables held possession of my house & slept
there twelve days & eleven nights. N.B. Ford did not
confine himself to papers of treason; for finding
nothing of the kind or about Convention, he took away
about thirty insignificant private letters. Mr. Ford said,
he would apply to Privy Council that Warder should not
sleep in the same room with me. That I might give
Kinghorn something to carry for his listening, I told
Vaughan in the broad terms — that the Ministry might
kiss . This night Kinghorn locked the Warder
& me at ten o'clock into the chamber, so that if the
Warder had had the cholic, he must — > in the
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[8th 8, XI. JAN. 9, '97.
room for my regale— as had nearly happened to Dixon
the warder who attends Thelwall.
Thursday, May 29, 1794. Warder & I rose at 5 o'clock ;
but being locked in could get no fire or breakfast till
7 o'clock.
Friday, May 30. F. Vaughan visited me 4th time, told
me that Frost was taken last night, at my house at
Wimbledon (so that my family are now left defenceless
again ; for Frost kindly went there to protect them).
T. Williams the wine merchant is taken. Hardy was
bro* yesterday to the Tower. Five persons, I know not
whom, are sent to Newgate. Privy Council return my
keys to Vaughan. By their direction Vaughan offers
keys to me. I refuse to touch them, bid him keep them
for the present, & take out some title deeds, and my
will, which on General Murray's death, the Duke of
Athol had caused Mr. Squire to return to me. Kinghorn,
when Vaughan was going, interfered about my keys,
which he wanted Vaughan to deliver to him, said he
had been reported & blamed for suffering Vaughan to
receive them before — acknowledges he had not been
reported, but had mentioned it himself. This Kinghorn
is Gaeler, but not Gentleman Gaoler. He has uniformly
given me fawning words ft most savage treatment.
Vaughan says Mr. Ford would obtain from Privy Council
(order) to remove Warder from sleeping in my room, but
wished I would apply. N.B. My confinement in King's
Bench ruined my Boy. God send that the Tower pro-
duces no future mischief to my Girls. Before my appre-
hension by Dundas's warrant, I had slept out of my
house but one night (at Margate) for the laat seven years.
Vaughan retained Gibbs for me yesterday.
Saturday, May 31. Iron bars put up at window : the
5th time of performing ceremony. Martin the Attorney
bro( to the Tower : put in a miserable apartment at
Jackson's the Warder, a relation of Einghorn's 1 At ten
o'clock this night, Kinghorn says, he has just received
order to remove the Warder's bed into adjoining room.
Sunday, June 1, 1794. Warder's bed removed to adjoin-
ing room. I walked upon the Leads twice for 20
minutes, each time, attended by two Warders and a
Centinel with bayonet fixed, 1st time whilst my bed was
turned up and the room swept ; the 2d time whilst my
bed was making for the night.
Monday, June 2. This morning at six o'Clock, the Yeo-
man Porter (a naturalised Frenchman or Swiss, who
had been a servant of Lord Shipbrook, General Vernon's
brother, the Lt governour of the Tower) found great fault
with Bouguet, the Warder, for permitting me to walk
upon the Leads. N.B. I have now been this day at
noon, 17 days & nights in close custody, without any
hint or conjecture what action or crime can be laid to
my charge. I recd for 2d week 13s. 4d. government
maintenance of a prisoner ; so that they have at last found
out a method to make me a pensioner against my will.
F. Vaughan visited me 5th time. He had received from
H £50. He gave me £20 & will give F. Wild-
man to pay Mrs. Hart £10 due to her the 1st of May,
1794. N.B. Mr. Tooke gave my girls £10 10 May 24.
Two new Warders, Finney, Ld Cornwallis's servant,
Lockit, Abp. (1) Cornwallis's cook.
Tuesday, June 3, 1794. Half a pound of Snuff sent by
Mr. Vaughan was turned out of the paper & examined
by Kinghorn. At noon Kinghorn bro* a half sieve
sent by my girls, with gooseberries, pease, strawberries.
It was opened and in it was a Letter from Charlotte
which Kinghorn took to carry to the governour Mr.
York. At ten at night (for I stand up to read it) King-
horn brought it back to me, open. [N.B. This is the
second time the governor has opened and read my girl's
letters, and Bent them back to me open, so that Gaoler,
& if he pleased, the whole Garrison might read them,
A very little delicacy or even reflection would lead a
governour (if he did break open letters from a prisoner's
family) at least to inclose them in a sealed note from
himself, that the prisoner might know his private affairs
were open only to the governour himself & not to every
fellow.] I had permission to send some strawberries by
one of the Warders to Bonney.
G. J. W.
(.To le continued.)
THE HISTORY OF THE GUILLOTINE.
(See my Note on 'Louis XVI.' &c., 8^ S. x. 249: also
8th S. x. 195, 298.)
The guillotine has already been many times
discussed in * N. & Q.'; but as I find nothing new
in any of the notes, all of which I have read, and
nothing in any way bearing on the history of the
guillotine as I shall give it, I see no reason for
giving a list of them. My account is borrowed, as
I said in my note above quoted that it would be,
from the ' Me"moires des Sanson ' (Paris, 1862-3).
It may, of course, be inaccurate ; but as one of
the Sanson family had much to do with the intro-
duction of the instrument, there is much ground
for believing in its accuracy.
Dr. Guillotin (strangely enough called Dr. Guil-
lotine in the generally accurate account in the
ninth edition of the 'Encycl. Brit.') bad, as early
as 21 January, 1790,* three years to the day
before the execution of Louis XVI., proposed that
the execution of every one condemned to death
should be by decapitation, and that this should
take place " par 1'effet d'un simple me'canisme "
(iii. 390). This motion was referred to a com-
mittee of seven, and did not become law till 1791
(the 'Encycl.' says on 6 October), and in the
mean time it bad been so modified that all that
was stated with regard to the mode of execution
was that "tout condamn6 a mort aurait la tete
tranchee," without any mention of the instrument.
This alarmed G. H. Sanson, and he presented a
memoir to the Minister of Justice, in which he
pointed out
"toutes les difficult e's de la decollation par 1'epee : la
necessite d'une fermete et d'un courage qu'on ne ren-
contre point chez tous les patients : f 1'impossibilite des
* According to the 'Encycl.' he brought forward thig
motion on 1 December, 1789, at the same time that he
proposed that all offenders and criminals should be
punished in precisely the same manner, no matter what
their rank or station. But, according to Sanson, this
last motion was brought forward on 28 November, and
was carried on 1 December, 1789 j whilst the other
motion was not proposed till 21 January, 1790, as I have
stated above. See vol. iii. pp. 387, 388.
f He might have added, nor in all executioners. De-
capitation by the sword was not at that time much prac-
tised in France, as it was reserved for those of high rank.
But even when it was frequently resorted to, as in the
days of Richelieu, it was often unskilfully performed.
Thus we learn from i. 86 that the head of De Thou
was not completely severed until the eleventh stroke,
owing to the agitation of the executioner.
8'HS.XI.JiK.9,'97.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
executions multiples, & cause de Ja fatigue des
sujettes a s'dbrecher ou a perdre leur fil."
Besides which, when several criminals had to be
executed successively, the last ones to suffer would
be so overcome by the sight of the blood of the
others that they would cot all of them be even
able to maintain themselves in a suitable posi-
tion. From these and other considerations, there-
fore, Sanson came to the conclusion that it was
indispensable to adopt some machine
" qui fixat le patient daps la position horizontal e, pour
qu'il n'eut plus a eoutenir le poids de son corps, et qui
permit d'operer avec plus de precision et de sftretc que
la main de 1'homme n'en peut avoir."
Dr. Guillotin was entirely of Sanson's opinion,
and he went several times to Sanson's house to
see whether they could devise together a machine
which should meet every requirement. But they
could hit upon nothing. They examined three
German engravings by Pentz, Aldegreder (the
'Encycl.'has Penez and Aldegrever), and Lucas
Granacb, as well as an Italian engraving by
Achille Bocchi, this last of the " Mannaia,"
which the ' Encycl.' tells us was used as early as
the thirteenth century. They examined also the
instrument used earlier still in Persia, the " Scotch
maiden," and an instrument that had been used in
1632 at Toulouse for the execution of the Marshal
de Montmorency, and had previously been in
use in that part of the country. But all these
machines had the one capital defect that the
criminal was made to kneel and could not be so
securely fastened as to be altogether incapable of
making any movement. The question, was, how-
ever, quickly to be solved, and that in a very un-
expected way.
For some time a German of the name of Schmidt,
a maker of harpsichords, but also well acquainted
with mechanics, had been in the habit of coming
in to Sanson's in the evening, and Sanson had
often spoken to him about the fix in which Dr.
Guillotin and himself then were. One evening,
when Schmidt was playing on the harpsichord and
Sanson on his violin or violoncello (for it was
especially their mutual passion for music, though
also the purchase by Sanson of certain musical
instruments from Schmidt, which had created the
intimacy), Sanson's thoughts once more reverted
to that other instrument which was to him a
matter of such serious concern, and he let fall a
few words about it. Schmidt at once exclaimed
in his broken French, " Attentez, che crois que
ch'ai fotre affaire, ch'y ai bense*," and seizing hold
of a pencil, with a few rapid strokes he made a
drawing : " O'e"tait la Guillotine ! " Yes, there it
was, the guillotine with its knife raised up on high
between two posts and set in motion by a cord —
with its tilting board (" planche a bascule ") which
with the subject fastened at full length upon it
could be rapidly lowered into such a position that
his neck should come precisely where the sharp
edge of the knife would fall. The difficulty was
conquered, the problem solved. Schmidt had at
last discovered the means of decapitating a criminal
in a horizontal position, without its being possible
for him to make the slightest movement.
It was this drawing of Schmidt's which, as I
recorded in my last note, was submitted to
Louis XVI. by Dr. Antoine Louis, and in which
the king substituted a straight edge set slantingly
for the crescent drawn by Schmidt. This crescent
Schmidt had apparently borrowed from some old
engraving, perhaps that of Aldegrever mentioned
by M. CHATEAU (last reference). And according
to the same correspondent the knife in Bocchi's
engraving has a straight edge, so that Louis XVI.
did^ not originate this ; but probably the edge was
horizontal, and not set slantingly as Louis drew
it.*
On 7 March, 1792, five days after Louis XVI,
had altered Schmidt's drawing, Dr. Louis pre-
sented his report to the Assembly, and recom-
mended Louis XVI.'s modification, with the pro-
viso that if, upon trial, a knife of any other form
should be found to work better, it should be
adopted. Experiments were made upon three
dead bodies on 17 April, 1792. The slanting edge
was used in two cases, the horizontal edge in one.
In both its cases the former was successful ; in its
one case the horizontal edge failed, and thus the
slanting edge (called by Sanson " la lame oblique,"
p. 406) was adjudged to have gained the day, and
eight days later, on 25 April, 1792, a highway
robber, named Pelletier, was executed by the first
guillotine made, t The name given to it was at
first either Louison or Louisette (from Dr. Louis),
or Guillotine (from Dr. Guillotin) indifferently ;
but this last name finally prevailed, probably from
its being regarded as less familiarj and more
euphonious.
There were six factors concerned, therefore, in
the production of the guillotine, viz., Guillotin,
' This edge, which starts upwards from right to left,
forms an acute angle which would enter into the right
side of the neck (see the engraving in Webster, s.v.
" Guillotine "), and so secure a deep entrance from which
the incision would be carried right across, whereas the
horizontal edge might fail to obtain a sufficient entrance
in consequence of the strong ligament of the back of
the neck, called by anatomists the " ligamentum
nuchae."
f This guillotine was constructed by a carpenter of
the name of Guidon, and cost 5,500 francs.
J And yet Guillotin, like Louison and Louisette, is
only a diminutive of a Christian name, and, indeed, a
double diminutive. For Guillotin probably = Guille
(=our Will) -{- the two diminutive endings ot and in>
and, if so, is much the same as little Billie (Billee).
Larchey, indeed, will not allow that Guille represents
more than the first half of Guill(e)aume, but Pott (third
edition, p. 192) agrees with me, and Body, in his book
about Liege family names (p. 203), has " Guillaume dit
Guillot,"
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
. XI. JAN. 9/97.
Sanson, the old engravings of antecedent machines,
Schmidt, Dr. Louis, and Louis XVI. Schmidt is
commonly looked upon as the most important of
these ; but he would not have produced the machine
without the very important assistance of Sanson,
who told him what modifications in the old machines
were required, whilst Louis XVI.'s improvement
was of great value.
The account given by the c Encyl. Brit.' accords,
as I have said, pretty nearly with what I have
narrated, and yet the writer of the article did not
consult Sanson's ' M^moires.' As, however, among
the books quoted I notice one by Louis Dubois,
entitled ' Recherches Historiques et Physiologiques
sur la Guillotine et Details sur Sanson/ I am
inclined to believe that the writer of the article was
almost as much indebted to Sanson as I have been.
As for J. W. Croker's book, I have not seen it ;
but, to judge from the numerous quotations I have
seen from it in 'N. & Q.,' the information given
can scarcely be remarkable for its accuracy.
In conclusion, I may say that the guillotine which
is exhibited in the Chamber of Horrors at Madame
Tussaud's is stated to be the very one which served
for the execution of Louis XVI. Now, this latter
guillotine was removed as early as 30 April, 1793,
From the Place de la Revolution (now the Place de
la Concorde), where it had been standing ever since
the 21st of the preceding January (the date of the
king's execution), and a new one was substituted
for it, in which many modifications deemed neces-
sary by Sanson for the successful performance of
several successive executions had been carried out
under his direction (see vol. iv. p. 82). It is, there-
fore, quite possible that the Tussaud family really
did obtain possession of the original machine, for I
believe that they already had an exhibition at Paris
at the time of, and indeed some time before, the
death of Lonis XVI. And as but few heads had
fallen under the knife* of that guillotine, one would
expect to see it in good condition.
F. CHANCE.
Sydenliam Hill.
LAW STATIONER. — *The Century Dictionary'
has this description : " A stationer who keeps on
sale the articles required by lawyers, such as
parchment, tape, foolscap, brief- paper, &c., and
Who sometimes, in England, takes in drafts or
writings to be fairly copied or engrossed for
lawyers." I disagree with this; it should be "one
who in England takes in drafts or writings to be
either fair copied or engrossed for lawyers, and who
sometimes keeps on sale," &c.
Though only a change in the order of the
sentences, the difference in the description is great,
in fact the difference between right and wrong.
* It would almost seem, from what is said in pp. 77, 78,
that the knife which cut off Louis' head was never used
again. At all events, it was very quickly changed.
Mr. Whitney writes "fairly copied." You would
never hear such a thing in a lawyer's office nor in
a law stationer's. It may be bad grammar, but
lawyers always say, "Take that to be fair copied,"
or, " Make a fair copy by such a time." Again, Mr.
Whitney says, "fairly copied or engrossed," as if
they were the same thing ; but they are not. If
I say, " Take this to the stationer to be fair copied,"
it comes back fair copied on paper, as a draft to
be reread and finally corrected. I then send the
fair copy as a draft to the stationer to be en-
grossed ; it then comes back better and more
carefully written and ready for signature.
I have left in the words "in England but I
imagine they would not be necessary for a dic-
tionary published in England. Why has Mr.
Whitney been so particular? Are there no law
stationers in America? I understand there will
not be any or many left in England soon, as the
type-writer is improving them off the face of the
earth. So, then, to " go with the times/' the law
stationer now sets up as a type-writer, and starts
a shop and sells things, as per Mr. Whitney's
description (which in times to come will probably
be more accurate than mine), and then in his shop
window adds cycles (generally ladies') to the other
miscellaneous articles.
Under " Engross " * The Century ' has a correct
description, with what I contend is an incorrect or
misleading illustration from the 'Tale of a Tub.'
Swift says, " Jack had provided a fair copy of his
father's will, engrossed in form upon a large skin
of parchment." With the word "fair," the
description is overdone ; omit it and then the
sentence will read correctly, and as I believe Swift
would have written it had he been acquainted
with the practice of English lawyers (i.e. solicitors).
I should think it must have been a rather excep-
tional thing even in Swift's time to have a will
engrossed on parchment for signature by a testator.
It would be interesting to know when the practice
(if it ever was one) ceased. I never saw a will on
parchment, though I never saw a "probate" of a
will on anything else.* I think Swift has made a
mistake from always seeing the parchment probates
of wills. Parchment was much more commonly
used in early days ; no doubt it was even thirty
years ago more used than now. I have searched in
all sorts of books, but can find nothing upon the
subject of parchment wills. RALPH THOMAS.
AN ANOMALOUS PARISH. — Baker mentions in
his 'History of Northamptonshire' (A.D. 1822-36)
that Stotesbury, or Stottesbury, near Brackley,
presents the singular anomaly of a parish without
* Original wills are not handed about like deeds, but
are lodged in the registries, unless, indeed, they relate
solely to realty, in which case they are the same aa
deeds : they do not require probate, which is only given
for personalty.
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a village or a church. In the ' Clergy List ' for
1886 it figures as having a population of thirty-
four, and an income of 25l.t and that it ia held
along with the adjoining rectory of Helmdon,
which is in the gift of Corpus Christi College,
Oxford. In 1886 it still had no church.
E. WALFORD.
Ventnor.
WEATHER FOLK-LORE. — A curious piece of
superstition, still current in Berkshire, is referred
to in ' Letters to Marco/ by George D. Leslie.
On p. 48 Mr. Leslie says : —
" The people here [i. e. at Wallingford on Thames]
have a curious superstition about the wandering German
bands that visit us at times. It is that they invariably
bring rain. When they see them crossing the bridge
they say, ' There come the Germans ; it will rain to-
morrow.' My gardener firmly believes in this. I suppose
it is the old spirit of barbarism that lingers in the
country, which, in old times, used to burn witches and
shrew mice."
J. M. MAcKiNLAT, F. S.A.Scot.
[See ' German Bands,' 8th S. vi. 28, 114, 215.]
DIALECT. — A friend of mine tells me that she
has heard peffy used in North Lincolnshire in the
sense of tough, stringy: e.g., "These beet-roots is
very peffy" According to Peacock's ' Manley and
Corringham Glossary/ peff means the pith of a
plant. G. W.
[Of. pejf, to cough faintly, familiar in the North.
Might stringy beet-root be called peffy, as apt to make
you cough ?]
JEAN ETIENNE HENRY. — Is anything known of
Jean Etienne Henry ? The following is the copy
of a memorial from him to Pius VII., which he
apparently presented to the Pope during his
Holiness's residence in Paris, 1804-5, on the occa-
sion of the coronation of Napoleon. I am not
aware whether the document has ever been made
public. I found a MS. copy (a translation of the
original) among some papers dating from about
1810.
To our Holy Father Pope Pius the 7th.
Most Holy Father, — Jean Etienne Henry (son of the
late Jean Antoine Henry, formerly Counsellor of Par-
liament and Judge of the Lordship of Vivier and other
Royalties and of Dlle. Marie Barbe Noel) a native of
Tinery, diocese of Metz, canton of Delme, department
of Meurthe, now aged 53 years.
Humbly showeth to Your Holiness that he began his
Novitiate among the Mendicant Friars of the Order of
St. Jean de Dieu, and was initiated by the monastic
name of Edouard. That even at the time he made his
vows, he had no predilection for a religious life, but
inexperienced and incapable of appreciating the im-
portance and severity of the obligations those vows
brought him under. He was seduced by a monk of the
said order, who had insinuated himself into a fatal
ascendancy over his feelings and his judgment, aided by
the fear of disobeying his Parents, who having a slender
fortune ' and large family, incessantly extolled the
honors and wealth of the monastic life, and magnified
the dangers he would have to encounter in the world.
That in fact when he made his public profession, his
Heart gave the lie to the Oaths his lipa pronounced, so
that he has never believed them to be obligatory upon
him in the sight of God.
He begs to observe to your Holiness that he is not
a Priest, never having taken Holy orders.
He has hitherto overcome the feelings, which at all
times strongly tempted him to solicit the defeasance of
his vows. He has endured through the Grace of God,
the Disgust of a situation for which Providence never
intended him, and zealously discharged the duties of his
Station, both as an individual and as Superior of a Con-
vent, until the French Revolution spreading even to the
New World, deprived him of support, by overturning
the religious establishments of the Island of Martinique
(in the year 1792), which he had for sixteen years
superintended, and drove him to seek a refuge in a
foreign land.
Thus thrown adrift upon the world, and given up to
the sway of lustful passions, he fell into habits which
will prove a great scandal to the Church and a horrible
impediment to the Salvation of his Soul, unless he shall
be allowed to make them legitimate.
For this purpose, Most Holy Father, and in considera-
tion of the Arts and deceits used to induce him to take
his Vows (which must therefore be esteemed void in the
sight of God), considering that the present laws of
France have absolved him from his obligations towards
men, considering that the Monastic establishments of
Martinique (where he lived for twenty-six years and
where, accustomed to the Climate, he must pass the
remainder of his days) are irrevocably passed into the
hands of the laity, and all his former means of sub-
sistence lost. And considering the honor of the Church
and the Salvation of his Soul, deign Most Holy Father
to open the Treasures of your Grace in favor of your
poor Supplicant and absolve him from his Vows.
Full of remorse and of respect for and submission to
the Head of the Church, he will faithfully perform
whatever penance Your Holiness shall be pleased to
think needful to impose upon the most humble and
most respectful of his Servants. J. E. HENRY.
20th November, 1804.
GEO. C. BOASB,
36, James Street, Buckingham Gate, S.W.
"HUMMER NICK" : " HUM-BUG." — A few weeks
ago a man who lives at Morley, near Leeds, said
in my hearing, " Hah the hummer did ta do it ? '*
Of course I made a note of this at once, and soon
found out that he meant, " How the deuce," &c.
I have since ascertained that the expression " How
the hummer," or "What the hummer,*' is not
unfrequently heard in the North of England. I
find it at Whitwell, in East Derbyshire j at Dron*
field, in North Derbyshire ; at Penis tone, in West
Yorkshire ; and in the neighbourhood of Leeds*
Near Wakefield a being called Hummer Nick also
occurs now and then in the popular speech. A
man will say, " Well, I '11 go to Hummer Nick/
by which he means " go to the devil.'* It should
be noted that the h in "hummer" is always
sounded. People never say "th* ummer" or
" t' ummer."
It is at once obvious that Hummer or Hummer
Nick is the Norse giant Hymir, a name which,
according to Vigfusson, is derived from Mm,
Now hUm, when used in poetry, means the sea j
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in prose it means twilight. The word " humbug,"
therefore, means twilight bug, twilight goblin.
In England twilight was formerly regarded as
malignant or unkindly.* It was the time when
ghosts trooped forth.
As regards the word " bug," the ' New Eng.
Diet.' quotes Coverdale's version of Psalm xcii. 5 :
" Thou shalt not nede to be afrayed for eny bugges
by night. " It also refers to the expression " To
swear by no bugs " as meaning to take a genuine
oath, not a mere pretence.
One would like to see reports from other parts
of the country about Hummer and Hummer Nick.
S. O. ADDT.
PORTRAIT OP ROBERT HARLET, EARL OF OX-
FORD.— On a recent visit to the British Museum,
at the top of a case near the Print Eoom, I saw a
fine portrait in oils, half length, of a statesman
wearing a long flowing wig, and in the right hand
holding a white wand of office. On inquiry from the
curator of the Department he was unable to tell me
whom it represented. The portrait much needed
cleaning, and I am inclined to believe that it is
engraved in Lodge's * Portraits,' and depicts Robert
Sarley, Earl of Oxford and Mortimer, Baron
Barley of Wigmore, the first peer of that line,
who died in 1724, and to have been painted by Sir
Godfrey Kneller. In a list of portraits prefixed
to vol. vii. Cabinet Edition of Lodge's ' Portraits/
" No. 4 " is said to be that of " Robert Harley,
Earl of Oxford, from the collection in the British
Museum." If my surmise is correct, it is worthy
of a better position than it at present occupies.
JOHN PICKFORD, M.A.
Newbourne Rectory, Woodbridge.
ROUSSEAU AND * HUDIBRAS.' — Unless a common
original can be traced, Rousseau would seem to
have borrowed from 'Hudibras.' In verses entitled
'L'Altee de Sylvie,' published in 'L'Ami des
Muses * in 1759, he says : —
On me Terra par jalousie
Predher mes caduques vertus,
Et eouvent blarner par en vie
Lea plaisirs que je n'aurai plus.
fie may have seen Towneley's French transla-
tion of Hudibras/ published in 1758, but if so the
borrowing must have been from the English text,
also given by it, for Towneley's rendering of the
famous couplet "Compound for sins" is very
feeble J —
Oe qui leur plait eat legitime,
Et ce qui leur deplait, un crime.
J. G. ALQER,
Paria.
LETHERINGHAM PRIORY.— In the 'Letters of
Horace Walpole * (ed. 1891), vol. ii. p. 463, there
* "Maligna lux.uel dulia, tweonulleoht."— Wright-
WUlcker, ' Vocab* ' 175, 39.
is a strange little slip, more strangely endorsed by
Peter Cunningham. "Since that," writes Wal-
pole, " I went to see an old house [at Wingfield]
built by Secretary Naunton." The description
that follows of the house and the church is very
interesting to any one who knows them, but
Wingfield should of course be Letheringham Priory,
near Wickham Market, Suffolk. The Priory still
stands ; but Cunningham's note asserts that " the
house has long been level with the ground — the
church destroyed by churchwarden renewals and
alterations, and the Wingfield and Naunton monu-
ments shamefully scattered. When I visited
Wingfield, in 1852, 1 discovered part of Secretary
Naunton's monument in a farm-wall building."
The history of Letheringham has yet to be written.
Ample collections were made by the late Oapt.
Brooke, and are still in the library at Ufford.
FRANCIS PNDES GROOME.
cToM BROWN'S SCHOOLDAYS? — In a catalogue
of Tabart's "Juvenile Library" (157, New Bond
Street), appended to their 'Children's Book of
Trades,' 1805, the following title occurs : —
" First going to School, or a History of the Feelings
and Adventures of Tom Brown on his First Going to
School, with Letters to hia Sisters, adorned with beauti-
ful Engravings, price 2s."
Has this ever been pointed out as a strange pre-
cursor of our ever delightful ' Tom Brown's School-
days ' ? One suspects that the only resemblance
is in the title-pages ; still, Tom Hughes may have
had a reminiscence of the little work quoted in
taking the name of Tom Brown. Letters to his
sisters is rather suggestive of namby-pambiness,
and it will be recollected that Tom particularly
warns Arthur, on their first night in Gray's study :
" Don't you say you can sing ; and don't you ever
talk about home, or your mother and sisters."
H. E. M,
St. Petersburg.
EVENING SERVICES IN WESTMINSTER ABBEY. —
Services on Sunday evenings have been for many
years at stated seasons held in the nave or choir
of Westminster Abbey, and to many people it has
seemed a very great mystery why this great
" temple of reconciliation " should not be open all
the year round. Dean Stanley, in his ' Memorials
of Westminster Abbey,' told us that " much
assuredly remains to be done to place it on a level
with the increasing demands of the human mind
and with the changing wants of the English
people." Changes to meet these requirements have
from time to time been made ; increased light and
a complete system of warming were introduced,
and the usefulness of this " fortress of the Church
of England" has become greater than it ever was
before. The prayer used at the installation of a
dean and canon, in which it is asked " that those
things which he hath promised, and which his duty
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requires, he may faithfully perform, to the praise
and glory of the name of God and the enlargement
of His Church," has in many cases borne much
fruit, and as this is the "natural centre of the
religious life and truth, if not to the whole metro-
polis, at least to the city of Westminster," it is
pleasing to be able to record that at the last
meeting of the Dean and Chapter proposals were
made for a continual Sunday evening service, and
that the first of them took place on 27 Dec., 1896,
when Canon Gore was the preacher. This event
seems worthy of being recorded in the pages of
' N. & Q.' W. E. HARLAND-OXLEY.
14 (late 20), Artillery Buildings, Victoria Street.
We must request correspondents desiring information
on family matters of only private interest to affix their
names and addresses to their queries, in order that the
answers may be addressed to them direct.
EAGLES CAPTURED AT WATERLOO. — Wellington,
in his despatch to Lord Bathurst, after the Battle
of Waterloo, dated 19 June, 1815 (Gurwood's
' Despatches,1 vol. xii. p. 484), says : " I send with
this Despatch Three Eagles, taken by the Troops
in this action, which Major Percy will have the
honor of laying at the feet of His Koyal Highness."
Two eagles captured at Waterloo (one by the
Scots Greys, the other by the Royal Dragoons)
are now in the chapel of the Royal Hospital at
Chelsea. Can any of your readers inform me what
became of the third eagle ; and by what regiment
it was captured ? The two eagles at Chelsea were
transferred there, together with all the other eagles
and standards in the Chapel Royal, Whitehall,
from that chapel in 1835 by order of the king,
and it does not appear that more than two eagles
captured at Waterloo were ever deposited in
Whitehall chapel.
The « Annual Register ' for 1816 (vol. Iviii. p. 7)
gives an account of the placing of the Waterloo
eagles in the chapel at Whitehall on 18 January
of that year, with the usual ceremony and form.
The number deposited is not mentioned, but it is
stated that the eagles were carried by two sergeants,
and, as at previous ceremonies of the kind (see, for
instance, * Annual Register/ liv. 123, for 1812,
giving an account of the ceremony of depositing
the eagles and colours taken in Spain, which took
place on 30 September, 1812) the number of ser-
geants detailed to bear the colours and eagles
corresponded to the number deposited — each
sergeant carrying one — it may be inferred that only
two eagles were deposited at Whitehall on
18 January, 1816.
It looks as if between the date of the arrival oi
the three eagles in England and January, 1816 — a
period of some six months — one had been senl
elsewhere than to Whitehall chapel. C. R.
THOMAS BOLAS.-— In Egerton Castle's * Book-
Plates/ p. 120, a book-plate is engraved as
belonging to Thomas Bolas, 1740. The arms are
the same as are borne by the Bowles family. Who
was Thomas Bolas ? ENQUIRER.
NELSON. — Wanted Admiral Nelson's coat of
arms 1796-7, before he was made a peer.
E. E. THOTTS.
MATAGON. — In Brother Foley's ' Records of
the English Province S.J.' mention is made of
a Walloon Jesuit priest named Francis Matthews
(Mathieux ?), who was born at Li&ge, 1617, spent
some years in England, and was a constant visitor
of the Catholics imprisoned in the Tower, contriving
secretly to celebrate Mass there every day. He
died a victim of charity during the plague at
Ypres in 1667. Father Mathieux is described in
the above work as "of the Matagon family."
What family was this ? M.
CUPPLESTOWN IN IRELAND. — For some time I
have been striving to get at facts from printed
sources with reference to the exact locality, size,
and history of this village or hamlet, which I am
told, with apparent truthful knowingness, owes its
existence to three brother Scots, who settled it
between 1680 and 1690. So far I have been unable
to hit the right authority, printed or otherwise. The
place is located on the banks of the Kellswater.
Can some Irish antiquary help me out ?
J. G. CUPPLES.
Long wood, Mass., U.S.
EARL OF ANN AN DALE. — The late G. A. Sala,
in his ' Journeys in the County of Middlesex/
states that Mr. Alexander Copeland, who once
lived at Sussex House, Fulham, let it "to a
person who said he was the Earl of Annandale,
who could not get any one else to agree to the
proposition." Can any one throw light on this
story? Mr. Copeland died in 1834, and his
widow, Mrs. Lucy Copeland, continued to reside
at the house till 1842. I know nothing of any sot-
disant Earl of Annandale having lived at the
house. CHAS. JAS. FERET.
49, Edith Road, West Kensington.
LAURENCE LITCHFIELD, 1635, NEW ENGLAND.-—
I shall be glad to trace him in England. His
descendants intermarried with Kerseys, of Hing-
ham, Mass., and used their name as a forename.
A. 0. H.
CHURCH OF SCOTLAND. — What is the " Church
of Scotland," mentioned in the fifty-fifth section of
the Canons of Canterbury? The Canons were
promulgated in 1604. Was the Episcopal Church
of Scotland then in existence ? KOM OMBO.
"FASESYING." — What is to be understood by
the terms "came fasesying"? What connexion
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has it with the surname Fesy, Fesey, Phecy, Fezy,
Feacy, Feacye, Feassaye, &c. 1 Any information
about this family, its origin, &c., would be accept-
able. The above names are taken from a list of
Berkshire wills ; but I have heard the name is
found in the register of Brill and Long Orendon,
Buoks. Is the name a common one ? H. F.
JOHN GREENLEAP WHITTIER. — This American
poet, who is idolized by his countrymen not un-
like Burns is by the Scotch, bears a patronymic
which would seem to have escaped all record in
the annala of English topology, a department of
literature in which the English excel every other
nationality, certainly to the shame of their neigh-
bours the Scots and the Irish. If the name be
English, in what part of England does it abound ?
SHAWMUT.
Massachusetts, U.S.
THE GERMANIC DIET. — One of the most far-
reaching diets ever held in the German empire
was that of Mayence (1298), which claimed to strip
the imperial crimson from the shoulders of the
Emperor Adolf of Nassau, who had been crowned at
Aix-la-Chapelle six years previouly, and to choose
Albert of Hapsburg in his stead. The right of
the diet to do this is greatly in doubt. I shall be
glad to learn of any authorities bearing on the
question of the franchises of the Germanic diet,
and especially on the doings of that of Mayence.
It will not be forgotten that Adolf fell at the
battle of Gellheim, shortly after, by his foe's hand,
and that the latter was again called to the crimson
(if again it be), but was himself slain ten years
later by his nephew, Duke John of Suabia, at
Windisch, on the Reuss, and this very question
raised by Rudolf yon Wasta, charged with being
accessory. THREAD GOWN.
Vancouver's Island.
RETORT. — In a life of Sir John Birkenhead
('Lives of the Poets,' by Mr. Gibber and other
hands, 1753) I find the following :-—
" It is said of Birkenhead, that when an unmannerly
Member of Parliament, in opposing him, took occasion
to say that he was surprised to hear an alehouse-keeper's
son talk so confidently in the House, he coolly replied,
'I am an alehouse-keeper's son, I own it, and am not
ashamed of it; but had the gentleman who upbraided
me with my birth been thus descended, in all probability
he would have been of the same profession himself '; a
reply at once sensible and witty."
Has not this " retort courteous " been ascribed to
more than one distinguished person since ? Bir-
kenhead died 1679. G. T. SHERBORN.
Twickenham.
BROWNING AS A PREACHER. — Dean Farrar, in
his sermon at Marylebone Parish Church, might
have said that those of the congregation who, on
leaving the church, walked westwards would
presently come to, a chapel in which. Robert
Browning preached the sermon, one Sunday morn-
ing about twenty-five years ago. It is called
the Paddington Congregational Church. Have
any of Browning's occasional sermons been pub-
lished ? It is highly probable that shorthand
reports exist. On this occasion, at least, the
sermon was announced beforehand by posters,
and would hardly fail to attract some reporters.
W. R, GOWERS.
POPE'S EPITAPH ON MRS. ELISABETH CORBET.
— Can any reader of ' N. & Q,' tell me something
of Mrs. Elizabeth Corbet, on whose monument, in
St. Margaret's, Westminster, there is an epitaph
by Pope, beginning :
Here rests a woman good without pretence ?
Did her husband belong to the Shropshire Corbets ?
E. W.
GAGOTS. — Mr. Wright, in a paper on the Cagots,
in his ' Archaeological Essays,' mentions that such-
like communities existed elsewhere than in France
and Spain. Can any reader confirm this; for I
can find them only in connexion with these two
countries ? He likewise mentions that they pro-
bably existed in England also, coming to this
conclusion from the fact that in several churches
doors, not unlike Cagots' doors, had been found
built up. Is this the case ? I should be greatly
obliged by any one helping me here.
JAS. FLEMING.
CLAREL. — Sir Richard Fitz- William married
Elizabeth Clarel (she died 22 July, 1504), and Sir
John Fitz-William, of Sprotborough, married
Margaret Clarel. Were these ladies sisters, and
daughters of Thomas Clarel, or Clavel, of Ald-
wark, co. York, by Elizabeth, or Margaret, his
wife, daughter of Sir John Scrope ?
WM. JACKSON PIGOTT.
Dundrum, co. Down.
STATISTICS OF IMPOSTURE. — Does Swift, Jean
Paul, or some other humourist mention this ; or is
it the title of a book 1 A. B.
WESTCHESTER. — E. Bulkeley's 'Apology ' (Lon-
don, 1608) mentions a " Mr. Goodman, preacher
of Westchester." Where is this ; and what Mr.
Goodman was preacher then? I can only find
Westchester, U.S.A. 0. S.
PLACES IN STOKE ST. GREGORY. — From that
most valuable work Kelly's * Somerset Directory '
I find places with the following names are in the
said parish of Stoke : to wit, Mare Green, Hunt-
ham, High Huntham, Woodhill, Burroughbridge,
Sedgemoor, Stathe Court, Stathe, Churley, Dykes,
Sturt's Farm, Slough, Walker's Farm, Curry Load
Farm, Parsonage Farm, Woodhouse Farm, Frog
Lane, and Turkey. Such " gawky" names in
romantic Somerset ! If we give queer ones here,
it is evidently by inheritance, But, leaving the
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"gawks" out, I beg to ask, Have any of these
places old halls, or their remains ; and were any
manors subinfeudations of the capital manor of
Stoke, now held, I believe, by the Dean and
Chapter of Wells ? P. S. P. CONNER.
Octorara, How lands viHo, Maryland.
PROBLEMATICAL ANCESTOR OF HANNAH MORE.
— Can any of your readers furnish a clue to a very
possible link of consanguinity between the family
of Hannah More and that of John Smith, the
celebrated mezzotint engraver ? The friendly
relations between Hannah More and Garrick are
well knowo, and there is extant an impression in
wax of Sir Godfrey Kneller's portrait presented by
Garrick to Patty (Martha), Hannah More's sister,
with some verses in his autograph. On the
assumption of an affinity between the families of
Smith and More, a hint or request for such a
memento from the quiet, unobtrusive Patty, who
entertained the very strongest family affections,
would seem very natural, rejoicing as she then was
in the heyday of her sister's fame, as Kneller was
not only closely associated with Smith in his art,
but also a personal friend. This hypothesis is
further accentuated by a drawing by Kneller— a
sketch portrait — with the inscription in his auto-
graph, " Drawn by the life Mr. Smith, Mrs. More's
Father." The early recollections of Mr. Gladstone
include a touching as well as picturesque memorial
of the gifted authoress, the friend of Garrick, of
Johnson, and the virtuous Duchess of Gloucester
— as the good old Nestor has told us— the interest
of which would not be diminished by a further
retrospect into " the dark backward and abysm of
time." S. McDoNALD.
8, Edward Street, N.W.
RITCHIE OP CRAIGTOWN.— In 1758 this family
matriculated a coat, Quarterly, 1 and 4, Arg., on a
chief gules three lions' heads erased of the first ;
2 and 3, Az., a crescent or between three cross cross-
lets arg. The first and fourth quarters are, I presume,
for Ritchie ; but for whom are the second and
third quarters ? I find no information on the
point in Mr. J. Balfour Paul's valuable ' Ordinary
of Scottish Arms,' which, unfortunately, does not
give the name of each quartering in most of the
quartered coats, thus detracting from the useful-
ness of a work most interesting to students of
heraldry. ARMIGER.
ROBERT HALES.— Robert Hales is stated to
have been appointed Lord Treasurer of England in
succession to Brantyngham in 1381. Any in-
formation concerning him would be welcome.
A. CALDER.
ORIGIN OF PROVERB.— Could you, or any of
your readers, inform me of the origin of the
proverb " Let sleeping dogs lie " ? W. G. 0.
See 6tn S. ix. 68 173.
RELIGIOUS DANCING.
(8th S. x. 115, 202.)
Don Jose Maria de Valdenebro, the learned
sub-librarian of the University of Sevilla, assures
me that the occasions when the seises dance in the
Sta. Yglesia Patriarcal of this ancient Hispalis are
the octaves of Corpus Christi, the Conception of the
Blessed Virgin, and the last three days of the
Carnaval, but not Christmas, as I said in my haste.
He has lent me the volume entitled " Glorias
Sevillanas : Noticia Histtfrica de la Devocion y
Culto que la muy noble y muy leal Ciudad de
Sevilla ha profesado a la Inmaculada Conception
de la Virgen Maria desde los tiempos de la Anti-
gu'edad hasta la presente e"poca por el Presbf tero
Don Manuel Serrano y Ortega Ldo. en Derecho
Civil y Candnico. Sevilla, Imp. de E. Rasco,
Bustos Tavera 1, 1893" (pp. 920 and iii). In this,
"Capitulo xvi.," pp. 724 to 736, treats of the
singing and dancing of these specially endowed
quiresters; and "Ld,m 25," facing p. 730, gives
us a photograph of them in their special costume.
This dress is that of a court page of the sixteenth
century, consisting of a grey felt hat with plumes,
which the boys wear during the dance ; a jacket,
called vaquero, of azul celeste (sky-blue) silk with
yellow strips and with long sleeves, all tight-fitting ;
sashes or ribbons of the same stuff, called bandas,
hanging from both shoulders, like those of the toga
talaris worn by commensales in Oxford ; ruffs ;
stoles of white silk passed over the left shoulder
and under the other ; white silk tight knicker-
bockers ; white cotton stockings ; white satin
shoes with blue and white bows. I have seen them
these last few evenings since the Vespers of the
7th, when they made their appearance in the
choir of the Sagrario, or Chapel of the Holy Sacra-
ment, which is the place where the cathedral
services take place during the repairs required by
the collapse of the vaulting nine years ago. On
that day they did not dance, but they have done
so the last three evenings, beginning at 5 o'clock,
after compline. They are ten in number, though
said to have been six formerly, as their name sug-
gests. Placing themselves in two rows, on either
side of the space just before the altar, they kneel
at first, then sing bareheaded, standing still, and
finally don their hats and begin the right-and-left
swaying of their bodies and the movement of the
feet, which is continuous. All the time they are
accompanied by an orchestra standing in the corner
between the archbishop's chair and the end of the
altar. At times they rhythmically click their
postizas. They sing all the time. There is no
hopping or jumping, but the dance takes the form
of a pacing-drill-like quadrille, in which they shift
their positions. It lasts for ten minuses.
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general effect is decidedly agreeable and cheerfully
reverential. The movements remind one a little
of the strutty walking of the actors in a Souletin
pastoral in Basqueland. The archbishop, one of
the best and most eloquent men in Spain, has
attended the ceremony each evening, kneeling at
his faldstool, while the venerable Infanta Maria
Luisa Fernando knelt or sat at hers on the opposite
side of the sanctuary, each behind a row of seises
(in the singular seise). He terminates the ceremony,
which it is needless to say is very numerously
attended, by giving his benediction from the altar.
But this is immediately preceded by the exposition
of the Sacred Host, and followed by the announce-
ment, made by the Dean, that His Grace grants
eighty days' indulgence to all those present. As
he leaves the church, preceded by the metropolitical
cross, nearly all the bells of the unrivalled Giralda
tower clang forth a joyous peal, " like sweet bells
jangled out of tune." It is a pity that a short book
of the words and music, with a few historical notes,
is not sold. The proceeds would be useful for the
restoration of the squarest cathedral in Spain.
Hto. San Joseph Giral Delpino, in ' A Dictionary,
Spanish and English,1 London, 1763, has, " Seises
are six boys that are choice singers, belonging to
the Cathedral of Toledo, and living apart from
the rest, a council of six that governs a town, the
sices on the dice." Here Toledo may be a slip of
the pen, and the press too, for Sevilla ; or did the
usage exist at Toledo as well in 1763 ?
PALAMEDES.
Sevilla.
"THEY WILL NEVER CUT OFF MY HEAD," &c.
(8th S. x. 455.)— The particulars of the interview,
as related by one who was present, are these : —
" King Charles II., after taking two or three turns one
morning in St. James's Park (as was his usual custom),
attended only by the Duke of Leeds and my Lord
Cromarty, walked up Constitution Hill, and from thence
into Hyde Park. But just as he was crossing the road,
the Duke of York's coach was nearly arrived there. The
duke had been hunting that morning on Hounslow
Heath, and was returning in hia coach, escorted by a party
of the guards, who, as soon as they the saw king, sud-
denly halted, and consequently stopt the coach. The Duke,
being acquainted with the occasion of the halt, immedi-
ately got out of his coach, and after saluting the king,
said he was greatly surprised to find his Majesty in such
a place with such a small attendance, and that he thought
his Majesty exposed himself to some danger. ' No kind
of danger, James, for I am sure no man in England will
take away my life to make you king.' This was the king's
answer. The old Lord Cromarty often mentioned this
anecdote to his friends."— King's ' Political and Biblical
Anecdotes, '1819, p. 63.
ED. MARSHALL.
The actual saying referred to occurs in * Peveril
of the Peak,' chap, xlv., near the end : —
'* In the daytime the king (Charles II.) was commonly
Been in the public wal^a alone, or attended only by one
or two pereqpi j and hia answer to the remonstrance of
his brother, on the risk of thus exposing his person, is
well known : ' Believe me, James,' he said, * no one will
murder me to make you king.' '
PATKICK MAXWELL.
Bath.
" WAYZGOOSE" (8th S. x. 432, 483).— In PROF.
SKEAT'S note on the word " wayzgoose," read
before the Philological Society on 9 June, 1891,
he connects wayz with M.E. ivase, a wisp of straw,
also a torch. This M.E. word is evidently iden-
tical with Middle Dutch wase, a bundle, torch ;
Danish and Swedish vase, a bundle of straw. But
in no English, nor German, nor Scandinavian
dialect can it be shown that the word wase means
<f stubble." Hence the difficulty of accepting
PROF. SKEAT'S explanation of " wayz-goose" as
meaning "stubble-goose." "Stubble" is a very
different thing from a twist of straw. But in the
same note PROF. SKEAT asks us to believe some-
thing much more incredible. He affirms that M.E.
wase is identical with Du. wase and Sw. vase, and
at the same time answers to an impossible O.E.
type wrcefys — the pedigree being ivase, warse, wrase,
*wrcess, *wrce]>s! I wonder if PROF. SKEAT
really proposes an analogous derivation for the
identical Sw. vase. If so, he would have to derive
vase from weifc, the strong stem of Old Norse
wffia (nfca), " to writhe, twist," a rather difficult
task, as most Scandinavian scholars would allow.
A. L. MAYHEW.
Oxford.
CUTTING OFF DAIRYMAIDS' HAIR (8th S. x.
495).— There appears no reason to think that this
is more than a solitary instance, or that the
"raiders" cut off the hair of dairymaids more
than of other maids, or that they had any other
reason for it more than sheer rudeness and in-
solence to the poor girla. It does not seem very
likely that they sold the hair to a barber to make
wigs of. C. F. S. WARREN, M.A.
Longford, Coventry.
ANCIENT CYCLING (8th S. x. 373, 441).— In the
Sketch of 18 Nov., 1896, p. 142, there is an illus-
tration of a Draisienne to which are attached five
cyclists. The illustration is entitled * Going to the
Races, 1819.' CELER ET AUDAX.
SPIDER FOLK-LORE (8th S. ix. 7, 195, 256, 437,
494). — Dr. Adam Clarke, in a note in his Bible
commentary on 1 Samuel xxiv. 9, gives a somewhat
different turn in the application of this legend. He
says : " The rabbins have invented a most curious
conceit to account for Saul's [sic] security." Then
follows a quotation, but without a reference to the
authority : " God foreseeing that Saul would come
to this cave, caused a spider to weave her web over
the mouth of it, which, when Saul perceived, he
took for granted that no person had lately been
there, and consequently he entered it without
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suspicion.'1 This ends the quotation ; but further
on he adds : " This is a Jewish tradition, and one
of the most elegant and instructive in their whole
collection. B. G.
The Argyllshire legend of Bruce and the spider
is given in * Records of Argyll,' by Lord Archi-
bald Campbell, 1885, at p. 374.
WILLIAM GEORGE BLACK.
Glasgow.
JOHN HART (8th S. x. 436).— On 9 May, 1721,
the king nominated him Governor of the Leeward
Islands, and he arrived at his seat of government
on 19 December following. He was at continual
variance with the House of Assembly of Antigua
as to his salary, and at one time removed his
family to the neighbouring island of St. Kitts.
In 1725 various petitions were presented against
him, and he was replaced by the Earl of London-
derry, sailing for England on 14 June, 1727.
V. L. OLIVER.
Sunninghill.
For his conduct in Church matters, see Ander-
son's ' Colonial Church/ iii. 181-187.
EDWARD H. MARSHALL, M.A.
Hastings.
"HEAR, HEAR ! " (4th S. ix. 200, 229, 285 ; 6th
S. xii. 346 ; 8th S. iv. 447; v. 34.)— A striking
description of parliamentary applause, which bears
upon the genesis of this phrase, is to be found in
John, Earl Russell's 'Life and Times of Charles
James Fox ' (vol. iii. p. 285). An account is there
given of Pitt's famous speech of 23 May, 1803,
upon the renewed outbreak of war with France ;
and in a letter of Lord Dudley (then Mr. Ward)
to the Rev. Edward Copleston (afterwards Bishop
of Llandaff), it is said : —
" When he [Pitt] rose, there was first a violent and
almost universal cry of : * Mr. Pitt ! Mr. Pitt ! ' He
was then cheered before he had uttered a syllable — a
mark of approbation which was repeated at almost all
the brilliant passages and remarkable sentiments; and
when he sat down, there followed one of the longest,
most eager, and most enthusiastic bursts of applause I
ever heard in any place on any occasion. As far as I
observed, however, it was confined to the parliamentary
'Hear him t Hear him ! ' but it is possible the exclama-
tions in the body of the House might have hindered me
from hearing the clapping of hands in the Gallery."
' The parliamentary ' Hear him ! Hear him ! ' "
thus to be noted in 1803, is of just the same period
as that which was mentioned in Canning's * Ana-
creontic ' on Addington : —
When his speeches hobble vilely,
What " Hear him'a " burst from Brother Hiley.
And it is again to be found a score of years later,
when Byron published the thirteenth canto of
'Don Juan,' in the ninety-first stanza of which
the maker of a maiden speech is declared to be
Proud of his' Hearhimsf"
But it is in connexion with Canning that record
of the present variant is first to be found — at least,
so far as investigation has yet penetrated, for the
cry of the " wise woman out of the city, Hear,
hear," mentioned in 2 Samuel xx. 16, though it
furnished the occasion of a question to the readers
of *N. & Q.' by the late LORD LYTTELTON, is
scarcely in point in this relation. Canning, in his
' New Morality,' which appeared in 1798, had the
lines,
E'en C — w — n dropt a sentimental tear,
And stout St. A— dr— w yelp'd a softer " Hear ! "
but a forward step was made in an apparently
authorized report of his speech of 10 April, 1805,
upon the proposed impeachment of Lord Melville
(embodied in Leman Thomas Rede's ' Memoir of
the Right Hon. George Canning/ published in
1827), which includes among the interjections, " A
cry of hear ! hear ! " with the quaint addition, two
lines further on, " Still a loud cry of hear I "
(p. 152.)
I find also in Mr. T. E. Kebbel's 'Selected
Speeches of the late Right Honourable the Earl
of Beaconsfield ' an address of Benjamin Disraeli,
delivered at High Wycombe on 16 Dec., 1834,
which shows that Canning may further be con-
sidered the indirect cause of the introduction of
"Hear, hear," into our list of popular cries, for
it was in the course of satirizing the quondam Can-
ningites who had turned Reformers that Disraeli
referred to " the Right Hon. Mr. Ellice, who was
so good as to send us down a member, crying
' Hear, hear ! ' ' (vol. i. p. 16.) It was not long
after this that Dickens used " Hear, hear ! " in his
description of the charity dinner in ( Sketches by
Boz,1 and the phrase is now part of our colloquial
tongue.
While upon the subject, I would ask what are
the foreign equivalents of " Hear, hear ! " as a
mode of parliamentary applause. It is declared
not to be known in the United States Congress,
while " Tres bien " may be regarded as the French
form. Are there others ?
ALFRED F. ROBBINS. '1
THOMAS GUILFORD KILLIGREW (8tb S. x. 135).
— An elaborate pedigree of the Killigrew family is
given in the 'Visitation of Cornwall/ edited by
Lieut.-Col. J. L. Vivian, 1887, p. 270. Charles
Killigrew, of Somerset House and Thornham Hall,
co. Suffolk, born 29 Dec., 1655, buried 8 Jan.,
1725, married Jemima (surname not given —
Bokenham (?)— probably of Thornham, co. Suffolk);
she survived her husband, is named in his will,
and was buried at Thornham. The issue of this
marriage were two sons. Guilford, a lieutenant in
Lord Mark's regiment of Dragoons, died without
(legitimate) issue j will proved 23 July, 1751 ;
left his property in trust for Guilford Boyes, living
under his protection, who was baptized 22 Sept.,
1730, at Allerton, in Yorkshire, as daughter of
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John Boyes, and apprenticed to a milliner in
Manchester. Charles, the second son, died s.p.
9 March, 1756. If A. T. M. applied to the Rector
of Thornham, and made inquiries whether Jemima,
(at one time) wife of Charles Killigrew, was buried
under that name or that of De la Force, it would
probably settle the question of Guilford being the
same person as Thomas Guilford.
JOHN RADCLIFFE.
The annexed entry records the death of his
widow : " Oct. 19. In Carolina-row, Bristol,
aged 91, Mrs. Killigrew, widow of the late Mr. T.
Guildford K., wine*merchant, of that city " (Gent.
Mag., Nov. 1809, vol. Ixxix. part ii. p. 1079).
DANIEL HIPWELL.
OLD THEATRE IN TOTTENHAM COURT ROAD (8th
S. x. 495). — As a mere guess, I suggest that Foote's
mention of "these gentlemen, public performers
in Tottenham Court Road," makes reference
to George Whitefield, whose tabernacle was there.
Beyond question there is a sneer in the words. The
histrionic exaggeration of Whitefield's style is thus
spoken of by Johnson : —
" Whitefield never drew as much attention. As a
mountebank does, he did not draw attention by doing
better than others, but doing what was strange. Were
Astley to preach a sermon standing upon his head on
a horse's back he would collect a multitude to hear
him; but no wise man would say he had made a
better sermon for that." (In Boswell, eet. seventy.)
C. B. MOUNT.
Foote's remarks refer not to a theatre, but to
George Whitefield's chapel in Tottenham Court
Road. See Mr. Tyerman's « Life of Whitefield.'
EDWARD H. MARSHALL, M.A.
Hastings.
Doubtless this was in Tottenham Street,
Tottenham Court Road. The rooms were
originally built by Francis Pasquail, and ob-
tained the name of the "King's Concert
Rooms." They were appropriated for the " Con-
certs of Ancient Music," patronized by King
George III. and Queen Charlotte ; but being
too small for the subscribing nobility and gentry,
the concerts were first transferred to the King's
Theatre, Haymarket, and eventually to the con-
cert rooms in Hanover Square. In 1810 the
rooms were converted into a theatre, which for some
years was known as " The Theatre of Variety." It
subsequently bore the names of the Tottenham
Street, Regency, Royal West London, Royal Fitz-
roy, or Queen's Theatre.
EVERARD HOME COLEMAN.
71, Brecknock Road.
« ROBIN ADAIR ' (8th S. x. 196, 242, 304, 426).
— The memoirs of Sir Robert Adair in the Gentle-
man's Magazine, 1855, new series, xliv. 535, and
in the ' Diet. Nat. Biog.' say nothing about his
descent, but in the latter there is a trifling error,
which may be worth correction. It is stated that
Adair was created a K.C.B. in 1809. In that
year there was only one class of the Order of the
Bath, and Adair was created a K.B. By a notifi-
cation in the London Gazette, January 2, 1815, the
order was extended, and divided into the three
classes which now exist, viz., G.C.B., K.C.B. , and
C.B. All the former knights became thereupon
G.C.B.s., and amongst these, of course, was Adair,
who was never, therefore, a K.C.B. At the date of
his death, October 3, 1855, at the age of ninety-
two, he was the senior knight of the order.
W. F. PRIDEAUX.
Kingsland, Shrewsbury.
BUTLER COLE (8th S. x. 495).— Thomas Butler,
of Kirkland Hall, in the parish of Garstang, Lanca-
shire, was born in 1695, and married the daughter
of Edmund Cole, of Cole, his son Alexander, of
Kirkland and Cole, in 1811 devised his estates to
his great-nephew, Thomas Butler, whose only son,
Thomas, took the surname of Cole in addition to
his own, by letters patent dated December 16,
1817. He died in 1864. I have never been able
to trace any connexion between the author of
' Hudibras ' and this family. For details concern-
ing Butlers of Kirkland Hall see the ' History of
Garstang ' (Chetham Society, vols. civ. and cv.).
HENRY FISHWICK.
WAVE NAMES (8th S. x. 432).— Your corre-
spondent says that the notes he gives under this
heading " were culled from the Family Herald a
few years ago ; I cannot give the exact date." I
should much like to know that date. It is a
curious coincidence that the whole of the remainder
of MR. H ALE'S note agrees almost verbatim with
part of a "turnover" on "waves," written by
myself in the Globe of 17 March, 1896, less than a
year ago. I am not a reader of the Family Herald,
and know nothing of anything that it may have
contained on this subject. My authorities for the
names and statements which MR. HALE gives,
without any quotation marks, from my article,
were the Folk-lore Journal (Folk-lore Society,
1885), vol. iii. p. 306, and Edward FitzGerald's
' Sea Words and Phrases along the Suffolk Coast,'
printed in the East Anglian, 1869, vol. iii.
pp. 347-358. The Lincolnshire statement had no
book authority. G. L. APPERSON.
"AS PLAIN AS A PIKE-STAFF " (8th S. ix. 346 J
x. 141). — MR. H. CHICH ESTER HART writes that
" it was a droll idea to suggest that this phrase was
due to a writer in 1691." So far as I know, no
one has suggested any such thing. I stated that
Byrom was born in 1691, and then showed that the
expression was much earlier than Byrom's birth.
The idea that Byrom was a writer in 1691 is too
ludicrous. MR. HART gives as a reference for the
use of the expression, * Merry Drollery/ reprint
8«> S. XI. JiH. 9, '97.]
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by Ebsworth, p. 228, 1661. This date must be a
mistake, as the reprint, according to my copy, is
of the 1691 edition. Mr. Ebsworth, however, in
his appendix, remarks that the text referred to
agrees virtu ally with 'Anecdote against Melancholy,'
3661, pp. 11. Now the passage to which MR.
HART refers is almost identical with the earlier
version quoted by me from ' Wit Kestor'd,' 1658.
He refers, moreover, to Dekker's * Witch of Ed-
montoD,' apparently for the use of " pack-staff."
My copy of the play is in J. Pearson's reprint of
Dekker's * Works,' vol. iv., 1873, in which the
reading is " pike-staff": —
Sawy. I understand thee not. Be plain, my son.
Y. Bank. As a Pike-staff, Mother : you know Kate
Carter.— P. 872.
A note on p. 447 states that the play appears to
have been brought on the stage in 1623. MR.
HART'S date is 1621, The play was not published
till 1658. Inaccuracy in ' N. & Q.' valde deflendum
est. This must be my excuse for the above remarks.
F. 0. BIRKBEOK TERRY.
The passage in Marston's * Scourge of Villanie '
alluded to at the second reference runs thus : —
Faire age !
When 'tis a high and hard thing t' have repute
Of a compleat villaino, perfect, absolute ;
And roguing vertuo brings a man defame,
A packstaffa epethite, and scorned name.
It can hardly be said that the proverb is quoted
here, though it may be referred to. It is worth
noting that in the " Mermaid " edition of Middle-
ton's 'Witch of Edmonton' the word is printed
"pike-staff." 0. 0. B.
AUTHOR WANTED (8tt S. x. 436, 504).— An
anonymous Greek version of u Twinkle, twinkle,
little star" is printed in « N. & Q.,' 3rd S. vi. 482.
On the Latin version, consult 6* S. iii. 45, 177.
W. 0. B.
POSITION OF COMMUNION TABLE (8tb S. ix. 308,
376 ; x. 226, 259, 325, 499).— In the apse of the
College Church here, the communion table stands
close to the east wall. It is vested with a crimson
ante-pendium. In St. Mary's (Established Church)
the table stands under the pulpit. In the parish
church of St. Nicholas, Aberdeen (the east church),
there is one, likewise vested, under the pulpit,
and another in Drum's Aisle of same church, which
is used for the daily weekday services.
GEORGE ANGUS.
St. Andrews, N.6.
As your correspondent 0. W. W. ends with a
query, addressed apparently to me, I venture to
reply that a faculty to confirm an arrangement
made in accordance with a clergyman's interpre-
tation of an option given by an Act of Parliament
is not the same as a faculty to give authority to
that Act. The Ornaments Rubric is enforced by
the Act of Uniformity; but money has been
squandered, and priests have been put in gaol, as
the result of private interpretations. Faculties
are needed for many structural changes in churches,
which when done are quite lawful, but which
without a previous faculty are not lawful and may
have to be undone.
EDWARD H. MARSHALL, M,A.
GIBBET HILL (8th S. ix. 388, 432 ; x. 244).—
A slight mound, now rased, in the Castle Green at
Launceston, upon which the scaffold was erected
in the days when this was an assize town, was
known as Gallows Hill ; and the name was also
given (and is still used) to a portion of St. Stephen's
Down, about two miles from the town, whither
certain of the condemned prisoners used to be taken
in a cart, with ropes around their necks, for
execution. DUNHEVED.
There is a Gibbet Hill, near Hindhead, where
three tramps murdered a sailor, 24 September,
1786, under circumstances which must be fresh in.
the minds of novel readers through Mr. Baring-
Gould's powerful story ' The Broom-Squire.'
EDWARD H. MARSHALL, M.A.
Hastings,
I see in Cassell's ' Gazetteer of Great Britain
and Ireland,' "Gibbet Hills and Forty Foot
Bridge, formerly a parish, but now amalgamated
with Swineshead, South Lincolnshire.'1 Surely the
annals of such a parish must be very entertaining,
TENEBRJE.
THE "PARSON'S NOSE" (8tb S. x. 496).— la
' Noctes Ambrosianse,' vol. ii, p. 320, edited 1855,
this is called the "Bishop." The Shepherd,
North, and Tickler are supposed to be discussing
a very fine goose, when Tickler says, " Out
the apron off ' the Bishop,' North ; but you
must have a longer spoon to get into the interior."
From Blackwood's Magazine, December, 1829.
WM. GRAHAM F. PIGOTT.
The " Pope's nose " is almost, or quite, as com-
mon as the other phrase, I should say. There is
a witty but dirty story of an Irishman and the
" Pope's nose " which is good evidence of this.
C. C. B.
The ' Slang Dictionary ' says : " Pope's nose, the
extremity of the rump of a roast fowl, sometimes
devilled, as a dainty, for epicures, also known as
the Parson's nose."
BVBRARD HOME COLEMAN.
71, Brecknock Road.
MORAVIA : STIRLING : LINDSAY (8th S. x. 295).
— The books I have at hand on these families
state there were several persons and families
of the name of Striveling, or Stirling, and that
the information concerning them is so meagre
that their relationship cannot be definitely ascer-
tained. Walter de Striveling (circa 1153) left
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two sons; his eldest, Robert (1170-1200), had
two sons, of whom the eldest, Sir Alexander, who
was knighted by King Alexander II, married in
1234 a daughter of Sir Firskin de Kerdal, and by
her had three sons : (1) Sir John, his heir ; (2) Sir
Alexander, progenitor of the Stirlings of Calder ;
(3) William (circa 1292), who is thought to be the
forefather of the Stirlings of Glenesk. Sir John
Stirling, of Glenesk, probably his grandson, left
an only daughter Catherine, who married (date
of settlement 1365) Sir Alexander Lindsay, whose
son, Sir David of Glenesk, was created Earl of
Crawford.
If J. D. had given his authority for supposing
there was any connexion between the families of
Moravia and Stirling it might have been easier to
follow up the relationship. Freskin (1124) is the
name of the first-mentioned personage of the family
of Moravia. Perhaps J. D. has, through the
similarity in the name of the above-mentioned
Firskin de Kerdal, thought they were one and the
same person. JOHN RADCLIFFE.
"ONNA D£w" (8th S. x. 495).— Correctly
written, this is "Owna Dew." In Welsh it is
Ofna Duw, which in South Wales is pronounced
very much like the Cornish. The literal meaning
is "Fear God." The words are part of a motto
once highly popular in Cornwall: "Owna Dew,
parthy an Matern, ha cara guz contrevogion":
'Fear God, honour the King, and love your
neighbours." JOHN HOBSON MATTHEWS.
Town Hall, Cardiff.
SHELTA (8th S. viii. 348, 435, 475; x. 434, 521).
—I thank COL. PRIDEAUX for pointing out the
looseness of my remark that change of initial is
'the" basis of Shelta. Alter it to a basis of
Sbelta, and I think it may stand good. But to
discharge my indebtedness for this correction, I
venture to point out that COL. PRIDEAUX himself
has made two mistakes in his letter.
1. The conversion of gizzard into mizzard he
calls rhyming slang ; but although in a way every
word which differs from another only in the initial
may be said to be rhyming slang, that is not the
correct use of the term. Rhyming slang should be
a system of phrases (not words), and more often
than not the last or rhyming word is omitted, and
the first, or non-rhyming, part of the phrase em-
ployed alone. " A pair of turtles on his martins,"
meaning a pair of turtle-doves (gloves) on his St.
Martin's-le-Grands (hands), is an example from
Farmer and Henley.
2.^ He has evolved an imaginary principle by
mixing together two pages of the Journal of the
Gipsy-lore Society which refer to entirely different
things. MR. SAMPSON'S list of sounds interchange-
able in Shelta is a guide to pronunciation. Prof.
Meyer's third process is a guide to derivation.
The name Shelta itself is admitted on all hands to
have changed an original B into Sht dead against
the law which COL. PRIDEAUX thinks he has dis-
covered.
MR. SAMPSON is not so easily disposed of. As
his differences from me are more matters of opinion
than of fact, I will take them in order.
1. He says Shelta is not a " dialect." I have no
time to split straws, so will cede this delicate
point.
2. He says Shelta is not a variety of English
slang. But in his article in Chambers he himself
alludes to it as one of the varieties of English cant.
"Shelta contributes largely to other English cants"
are his exact words. If slang and cant are not the
same, this is surely splitting straws again.
3. " Mizzard, slam, dan, reener, are not Sbelta."
The truth is, that there is Shelta and Shelta. MR.
SAMPSON appears to confine the term to " deep "
Shelta, which, like " deep " Romany, has no ad-
mixture of English. But mwzard, slam, dan, reener,
have undergone a change peculiarly Shelta, and
are used by the classes that speak Shelta.
4. MR. SAMPSON has not the grace to admit
that I am right about grawney being Shelta, but
goes out of his way to call it an " English corrup-
tion " of Shelta granya. The fact is, Shelta being
an unwritten tongue, orthography is a matter of
individual ear. The scientific spelling of this word
would be graina, after Irish faine (or fainne), so
that grawney and granya are alike phonetic. To
quarrel about their respective merits would be like
the cockney tourists, who could not agree whether
to write Boolong or Booloin. Leland writes many
Shelta words differently from MR. SAMPSON. Are
these all " English corruptions " ?
JAS. PLATT, Jun.
If it is really a fact that Irish is the basis of
Shelta, this surely gives some solidity to a sus-
picion which I, for one, have long entertained,
namely, that our Gipsies are the nomadic remnant
of a Celtic people. Is this supposition too mani-
festly wrong to be entertained ?
JOHN HOBSON MATTHEWS,
Town Hall, Cardiff.
"PAUL'S PURCHASE" (8th S. x. 355, 401, 481).
— This coin is mentioned in Medwin's ' Conversa-
tions of Lord Byron ' (at p. 126 of " a new edition,"
London, Colburn, 1824). The passage, being short
and seasonable, may be worth quoting :~
" [Lord Byron's] dinner, when alone, cost five Pauls ;
and thinking be was overcharged, he gave his bills to a
lady of my acquaintance to examine. At a Christmas-
day dinner be had ordered a plum-pudding d I'Anglaise.
Somebody afterwards told him it was not good. ' Not
good ! ' said be : ' why, it ougbt to be good ; it cost
fifteen Pauls.' '
About 2s. for a nobleman's dinner sounds frugal,
and an allowance of 6s. 3d. to defray the cost of
the pudding at his Christmas party is suggestive,
to the initiated, of something but slightly superior.
S. XI. JAN. 9, '97.]
NOTES AND QUERIES,
to the " plum-duff " of schoolboy days. Taken by
itself, this trait could have almost been read as a
sign that Mrs. William s's prophecy as to Byron's
dying a miser might ultimately come true. But
the dinner took place at Pisa, and the failure of
the pudding may well be set down to the foreign
cook's inexperience. Byron, if abstemious in food
himself, feasted his friends right royally on his fixed
days, when, as our author observes, " every sort
of wine, every luxury of the season and English
delicacy, were displayed." "I never knew any
man [adds Medwin] do the honours of his house
with greater kindness and hospitality."
On p. 335 Medwin says of the poet : " Miserly
in trifles — about to lavish his whole fortune on the
Greeks," &c. ; and yet again, on p. 304 : " Lord
Byron was the best of masters," &c. ; and,
"I remember one day, aa we were entering the hall
after our ride, meeting a little boy, of three or four
years old, of the coachman's, whom he took up in his
arms and presented with a ten-ptml piece."
A fair set off against the fif teen-paul pudding story.
H. E. MORGAN.
St. Petersburg.
JOHN LOGAN (8th S. x. 495). — He may have
been buried in St. James's Burial-ground in the
Hampstead Eoad. T. N.
BIBLICAL SENTENCES IN ENGLISH LITURGY (8th
S. x. 515). — Bishop Westcott, in his * English
Bible,' points out the various translations repre-
sented in the Prayer Book. The offertory sentences
and "comfortable words" are probably Oranmer's
own^ translation from the Latin. The evangelical
canticles display "the same independence" of
versions. The Psalms are revised from the Great
Bible. At the Savoy Conference the Puritans
demanded the exclusive use of the Authorized
Version, and the bishops conceded the Epistles
and Gospels, but the other parts remained as
before. See also Procter's * Prayer Book* and
Mombert's ' English Versions.'
EDWARD H. MARSHALL, M.A.
Hastings.
LANDGUARD FORT, SUFFOLK (8th S. x. 615).— I
know nothing of the history of the fort, but I can
give a date or two of some of the governors and
another name.
1626. Henry Rich, first Earl of Holland,
second son of the first Earl of Warwick; a Royalist;
beheaded as such, 9 March, 1649; married Isabel
Cope, and had descendants, who succeeded to the
earldom of Warwick and expired in 1759.
1661. Robert Rich, third Earl of Warwick,
["here is some mistake here, for Robert, third earl,
died in 1659, and the earl of 1661, his brother, was
named Charles.
1749. Capt. Philip Thicknesse, who married
Mary, daughter of James, sixth Earl of Castle-
haven, and had George, who in 1777 succeeded his
uncle as Lord Audley, which title fell into abey-
ance in 1872 between his two great-granddaughters.
Capt. Thicknesse died in 1792, leaving by will
his right hand to be cut off and sent to his son
Lord Audley, that since he had forgotten his duty
to his father, it might remind him of his duty
towards God. Whether the executors carried out
this bequest I know not.
0. F. S. WARREN, M.A.
Longford, Coventry.
In 'Excursions through Suffolk' (1819), vol. ii.
p. 34, it is stated that
" the old fort stood a little to the north of the present
fort. The erection of the former is supposed to have
taken place in the beginning of the reign of Charles I.
The old fort being demolished, the present rose in
the room of it in 1718."
According to Chamberlayne's ' Magnse Britannise
Notitia'for 1710, Lieut.-Col. Edward Jones was
the governor, Capt. Francis Hammond the lieu-
tenant-governor, and Edward Rust the captain.
A master gunner and six other gunners were
included in the establishment. G. F. R. B.
A portrait of Henry Rich, Earl of Holland, is
engraved in Pepys's 'Diary ' (Bonn's edition), vol. i.,
after Vandyke,
EDWARD H. MARSHALL, M.A.
Hastings.
OAK BOUGHS (8tt S. x. 75, 385, 486).— In the
paragraph from ' Old English Customs,' by P. H.
Ditchfield, is the oddest jumble of mistakes :
"Another stated that the regiment saved the life
of Charles II. at the battle of Dettingen, and stood
round the tree in which the king was hidden." It
was George II. who fought at Dettingen, and
Charles II. who was hidden in the tree, and most
certainly he was not guarded by any regiment
whatever, his only protectors being Capt. Care-
less and Penderell. CHARLOTTE G. BOGER.
Chart Sutton, Kent.
COWDRAY : DE CAUDRET (8th S. x. 235, 485).
— I thank correspondents for interesting informa-
tion regarding the origin of Cowdray. Since my
query appeared I have discovered a connexion
between the De Coudrys and the town of Caen.
"In a bull of Innocent III. to the H6tel Dieu in
that town the following names occur : Wnillelmi
Comitis de Harcort, Rogier de Mandeville, and
Wadum de Coudreie, A.D. 1210." I think it pro-
bable these Norman de Coudre"es were connected
with the De Mandevilles as well as De Bohuns.
Cowdray in Sussex may have been held by the De
Coudrays, hence the name. T. W. C.
This name is common in Surrey and Sussex.
Cowderay is one variant. Is it possible that the
cloth was named from its inventor ? Caudrey is
not greatly different from corduroy. In Westmor-
36
NOTES AND QUERIES.
land Christopher Wharton married Mary Cowdray.
One of his couBins, William Wharton, married
Mary, daughter of Owen Bray, of Shere, Surrey
(d. 1563?). A. C. H. '
PEACOCK FEATHERS UNLUCKY (8th S. iv. 426,
531 ; v. 75, 167 ; ix. 408, 458 ; x. 33, 358, 479).
— It may be noted that peacocks' feathers are not
uncommon in German heraldry, and thus can
hardly have been considered unlucky in old days.
In the Ritter-Saal of this old castle of the Habs-
burgs is a fresco in which the Habsburger is
represented bearing peacocks' feathers in his
helmet. And the mane of the Habsburg lion is to
be seen here, and elsewhere, ornamented with
peacocks' feathers. Some of the reigning families
of Germany, e. g., Anhalt, Mecklenburg, &c., bear
peacocks' feathers, either as a crest or with the
crest. Further, Schiller, in * William Tell,' alludes
to them as a knightly ornament, old Attinghauser
saying to Eudenz —
Die Pfauenfeder tragat du stolz zur Schau.
I think other correspondents have already noticed
that in the East peacocks' feathers are carried as
a symbol of royalty. The durbar furniture of the
Resident at Nagpore included, besides sundry
silver maces and staves, a " chowrie," or fly- wisp,
with a solid gold handle, and a " trophy of pea-
cocks' feathers " with a similar gold handle. And
such articles are to be seen at most durbars.
J. H. RIVETT-CARNAC.
SchloBS Wildeck, Switzerland.
From the following extract from Taylor's
'Churches Deliverances' it would appear that
peacocks' feathers were the insignia of some Papal
decoration. Stukeley was an ambitious English-
man, much lauded by Elizabethan poets, more
especially by George Peele in the 'Battle of
Alcazar ' :
And Stukeley from the Pope a prize had wonne
A holy peacock's taile (a proper toy).
P. 143, ed. 1630.
W. A. HENDERSON.
Dublin.
" FORESTER " (8th S. x. 255, 301, 345).— MR.
BRADLEY may like to be referred to one of Mr.
John Murray's publications in 1895, viz., 'The
New Forest,' by Rose 0. de Crespigny and Horace
Hutchinson, with illustrations. At p. 144 et seq.
there is an account of the Forest ponies and some
remarks on their supposed descent. I only had
ten minutes' glimpse of the book, but I noticed
that the Forest geese are warmly praised for their
intelligence and other mental qualities. They
roam the forest at their own sweet will by day,
and return home, unsolicited, at nightfall. I have
always thought the goose a much maligned volatile.
The Romans knew better than the detractors of
this sensible fowl, and if I mistake not it is Buffon
who remarks that the goose is a better farmyard
sentinel than the dog, the latter being sometimes
silenced by a bribe of food, whereas the goose is
disturbed and cackles at the slightest sounds at
night, and is noisiest when fed. H. E. M.
St. Petersburg.
ENGLISH AND SCOTCH STUDENTS AT PADUA
(8«> S. viii. 223, 233, 411 ; ix. 329).— Since mak-
ing my previous communications on this subject,
I find that the "Gabriel Onifield" of the lists
therein given is identical with Gabriel Honyfield,
of Westwell (near Ashford), co. Kent, M.D., son
and heir of Richard Honyfield, gent., and who was
living in 1677, and party to an indenture of that
date, together with Jane Honyfield, of the same
place, widow, and James Symons, of Aldington
(near Hythe), same county, &c., relating to a
messuage, &c., in Aldington aforesaid. This Dr.
Honyfield does not, however, appear to have been
a member of the London College of Physicians.
W. I. R. V.
"PINASEED" (8th S. x. 212, 320, 402).— Really
and truly "pinaseed" is a condensation of "a pin
to see it." A pin was the charge for looking at
the "flower mosaic," nor would children unfold
the pin-show unless the fee was paid in advance.
" Seed " is a pronunciation of saw in the county of
Derby. The " pinaseed " lines mostly used were :
Gimmy a pin, ter stick imershin
An' ahl pag yer off ter Darby,
Another :-—
Gimmy a pin, ter stick imerchln
Ter carry my lord ter London.
THOS. RADCLIFFE.
Worksop.
Give me a pin, to stick in my chin,
To carry my lady to London.
London bridge is broken down,
It 'a time to put my lady down.
This used to be (and perhaps still is) sung when
two children joined hands and carried a third
round the room. I never heard it connected with
the flower peep-shows, or poppet - shows, as I
think we called them many years ago.
M. E. P.
I have a distinct recollection that when I was
a little boy in a country school in Cardiganshire we
used to put violets and daisies, or any other small
flowers, under glass, as told by your other corre-
spondents, and sometimes heads from pictures cut
from our spelling books; but the lines we de-
claimed were —
Pins a piece to look at a show,
Lords and ladies all in a row.
D. M. R.
"LEAVE OFF": "ABACK" (8«» S. x. 356).— If
the best English is that which is best "under-
standed of the people," Dean Church's phrases
8th S. XI. JAN. 9, '97.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
could hardly be bettered. " Give over," or
«i
o'er," is much more familiar in the mouths
In England they had eleven houses, in
gie
of
Midland- Counties folk, at any rate, than " leave
off." In Lancashire they say, absurdly enough,
" hold on," when they mean "leave off"; but
what better can you expect from Lancashire
people ? For " aback," in the sense of " ago," we
of the Midlands should say "back" — "so many
years back " -but the other form would be per-
fectly understood. C. C. B.
Authorities for the use of "give over" from
Johnson are : —
"They must give over."— Hooker.
"Give not over BO." — 'Measure for Measure.'
" Never to give over."— Bacon, ' N. H.'
' Why then give over to be king."— Bacon.
' Yet gives not o'er, though desperate of success." —
Milton.
1 Must we now give o'er."— Denham.
' It would be well for all authors if they knew when
to give over."— Addison.
Johnson pronounces " aback" to be " obsolete."
ED. MARSHALL.
ABRAHAM LINCOLN (8th S. x. 436).— Through
the courtesy of Mr. B. C. Dixon, of Streatham, I
am enabled to answer my own query at this refer-
ence'. The book inquired for is 'A Memorial
Lincoln Bibliography,' &c., by A. Boyd (Albany,
New York, 1870, 8vo.). G. L. APPERSON.
WYVILL (8th S. x. 336).— The name of Zerubbabel
Wyvill (1762-1837), a native of Maidenhead,
appears in David Baptie's ' Handbook of Musical
Biography.' GUALTERULUS.
HAYNE : HAYNES (8"> S. x. 615).— A good many
years ago I was lodging at St. Ives, Cornwall, with
little niece. The child wanted very much to
bathe, but having no ladies with me, and the tents
being in charge of men only, I was puzzled how to
manage it till the Mayoress of St. Ives kindly
volunteered to take charge of her. That lady was
a Mrs. Edward Hain, which will add another to
IAINES'S many spellings. I afterwards found
the name so spelt was common there.
C. F. S. WARREN, M.A.
Longford, Coventry.
In the West of England this surname may be
safely derived from the Welsh and Cornish hen =
old, the elder. Compare Vaughan, from Vychan
ittle, the younger. Probably the "up-
country " names, Haynes, &c., are entirely distinct
from the Cornish cognomen Hain and the Devon-
3ayne. British hen = Irish sean, Latin
sen-ex. JOHN HOBSON MATTHEWS.
Town Hall, Cardiff.
ENGLISH RELIGIOUS BROTHERHOODS (8tb S. x.
-Trinitarians.— An order founded at
Rome in 1198 by St. John of Matha and Felix of
Scotland five, and in Ireland one, Called some-
times Red Friars, from the colour of the cross on
their dress, or Maturins, because they had a house
in Paris near the Chapel of St. Maturin.
GEORGE ANGUS.
St. Andrews, N.B
REV. G. A. FIRTH (8th S. x. 153, 206).— A re-
markable instance of a clergyman holding the same
living for a period far longer than that recorded at
the first reference is given in the Times of 12 Sept.,
1896. It is there stated that the Rev. and the
Hon. George Gustavus Chetwynd Talbot, recently
deceased,
" was the third eon of the second Earl Talbot, and was
born in 1810. He was educated at Christ Church, Ox-
ford, where he took his bachelor's degree in 1831, and
was ordained priest in 1834 by the then Bishop of Glou-
cester, Dr. Monk. In the same year he was appointed
rector of Withington, Gloucestershire, which he held
down to hia death for the long period of sixty-two years."
C. M. P.
In the Exeter Gazette obituary column, 9 Sept.,
1896, occurs the following additional illustration
of clerical tenacity to a good living when once it
is acquired : —
" Gunning.— On September 7th, 1896, the Kev. Peter
Gunning, M. A., Merton College, Oxon, for 51 years
Rector of Inwardleigh, Devon. Funeral at St. Mary's
Church, Exbourne, at 4 P.M. on Friday."
HARRY HEMS.
Fair Park, Exeter.
The Rev. Bartholomew Edwards, M.A. — B.A.
1811— St. John's, Cambridge, was appointed to the
rectory of Ashill, Norfolk, in 1813, and died
21 Feb., 1889, within a few days of completing
his hundredth year, and after having resided at .
Ashill for an unbroken period of seventy-six years.
See a memoir in the St. John's magazine, the
Eagle, xv. 481. P. J. F. GANTILLON.
Nearly ten years ago (7tb S. ii. 344) I asked a
question concerning the Rev. Gregory Palmer,
minister of West Haddon, Northamptonshire, in
the seventeenth century. He was vicar for more
than fifty-two years, having been born in the parish.
He died also and was buried at West Haddon,
where his tomb may still be seen. I imagine his
case must be well-nigh unique.
JOHN T. PAGE.
5, Capel Terrace, Southend-on-Sea.
The present rector of Cromer has been curate and
rector more years than the above gentleman was
curate and vicar of Malton. Mr. Fitch became
rector of Cromer in 1852, but was previously
curate, I believe, from 1843 to 1852. He is re-
tiring from the benefice owing to increasing
infirmities, M.A.
EASTBURY HOUSE, BARKING (8th S. x. 475,
522), — Perhaps as the owner of Eastbury House
38
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[8« 8, XI. JAN. 9, '97,
I may be allowed to say that though local tradition
connects it with the Gunpowder Plot, I have never
found trustworthy evidence in support of the tra-
dition. Sometimes there are grounds for a local
tradition which history has not chronicled, and
there might be in this case, but not to my know-
ledge. Mr. Barrett ia wrong in saying that the
house was built by Sir Wm. Denham in the reign
of Queen Mary. He died in 1548, i. e., five years
before the accession of Mary, having held the pro-
perty only three years. His heir and son-in-law,
Wm. Abbot, held the estate till 1557, when it was
conveyed to John Keele, who sold it in the same
year to Clement Sisley, in whose family it remained
for fifty years. I believe Sisley built the house
(the ground plan of which is in the shape of the
letter E) in the reign of Elizabeth, circa 1572.
FRANCIS STERRY.
Poltimore Rectory, Exeter.
NOTES ON BOOKS, &0.
Dictionary of National Biography. Edited by Sidney
Lee. Vol. XL1X. Robinson— Russell. (Smith. Elder
&Co.)
JUST before the new year came out, with unfailing
punctuality, the forty-ninth volume of this monumental
work, the whole of -which, according to the rate of
progress that is made, should be in the hands of the
subscribers in a couple of years. It is continued with
the care and accurary that have always distinguished it.
To the editor has gradually been assigned principally
that province in literature which is both poetical and
antiquarian, and the sixteenth and seventeenth century
rhymers are, as a rule, dealt with by him. These, so far
as the present volume ia concerned, include no man of
conspicuous eminence. First among them comes, in
alphabetical precedency, Clement Robinson, the editor
of 'A Handefull of Pleasant DeliteV reprinted in 1871
for the Spenser Society. Concerning the merits of this
rather hidebound singer Mr. Lee is dumb. Jn dealing
with Ralph Robinson, the translator of the 'Utopia,'
fl. 1551, concerning whom scarcely any particulars sur-
vive, Mr. Lee holds that his rendering, though redundant
in style, has not been replaced by later translations.
Not conspicuous as a writer is Daniel Rogers, diplomatist,
whose biography Mr. Lee has undertaken; but he was a
man of scholarly tastes and a friend of Camden. John
Rogers, d. 1555, is principally known as the first, and
not the least brave, of the victims of Marian persecu-
tion—a man who broke the ice valiantly, and stirred
greatly the pulses of those who saw his death. His
share in the production of Tindal's Bible gives him some
importance from the literary standpoint. William Roper,
the biographer and son-in-law of Sir Thomas More,
almost supplied a parallel instance of martyrdom on the
other side, but made his submission to the Council of
Elizabeth. High praise is given Roper's biography. Con-
cerning John Rpus, the Warwick antiquary, few parti-
culars are accessible. Mr. Lee holds there is no evidence
for Wood's statements that he was at Balliol College, or
became, on leaving Oxford, Canon of Oseney. Of Mrs.
Elizabeth Rowe Mr. Lee supplies an interesting life.
He is, however, at more pains to collect what is said
•oncoming her by Dr. Johnson, Klopstock, and Wieland,
and to depict her influence upon Prior and Pope, than to
dwell himself upon her merits. He credits her with
employing the epistolary method "with much skill."
Nicholas Rowe, the dramatist and Laureate, is the most
important literary personage with whom he deals.
Rowe's blank verse is credited with suavity, but he is
said to show little power of characterization. His edition
of Shakspeare comes in for a measure of eulogy, and the
personal gifts that commended him to Pope are pleas-
ingly described. Samuel Rowlands, the poet and satirist,
receives ample treatment, the bibliographical part of
the biography having special value. Samuel Rowley,
the dramatist, sometimes confounded with Samuel Row-
lands, and Ruggle, the author of ' Ignoramus/ are also
in Mr. Lee's hands. Mr. Leslie Stephen's name is absent
from the latest volume. Prince Rupert is, perhaps, the
most showy character in the volume. Of his striking and
picturesque career Mr. C. H. Firth gives an animated
description. Rupert's stubborn and wilful, but energetic
youth gave good promise of his heroic career. He is
credited with an innovation in cavalry tactics which
exercised an important influence. His alleged invention
of mezzotint is discredited. Prof. Laughton has several
brilliant lives of sailors, at the head of which stand
Rodney and Rooke. The Rossettis are in the hands of
Dr. Qarnett, who writes concerning Dante Gabriel with
much warmth and no less discretion. Dr. Garnett
dwells upon the rekindling of Rossetti's poetical faculty
in the dismal years in which the poet-painter remained
under the influence of chloral. Before all things, it is
held, he was an artist. Some departments of human
life had no existence for him, " and his reasoning powers
were hardly beyond the average." His instincts, how-
ever, "were potent, and his perceptions keen and true."
To Christina Rossetti warm praise is awarded. Another
important biography from the same pen is that of
Samuel Rogers. Mr. Austin Dobson contributes bio-
graphies of characteristic excellence of Roubillac and of
Rowbotham, an appreciative life of Romney being due
to Mr. Walter Armstrong. Among those supplying many
lives, and so constituting the backbone of the under-
taking, Mr. Thomas Seccombe, Mr. J. M. Rigg, Mr. G. F.
Russell Barker, Mr. Fraser Rae, Mr. Stanley Lane-Poole,
and Mr. W. P. Courtney are conspicuous. Mr. Barker's
life of " Prosperity " Robinson, afterwards first Earl of
Ripon, is the most striking. All, however, are good. Mr.
Seccombe writes on William Rogers, the educational
reformer; John Robinson, Bishop of London; John
Rolfe, the colonist; William Rowley, the dramatist, and
many more. Mr. Rigg is responsible for Sir Samuel
Romilly. Mr. Norman Maccoll contributes an account
of the career of Rose, the translator of Ariosto, concern-
ing whom very little was previously known. One of the
most erudite biographies ia that, by Miss Kate Norgate,
of Roger, Bishop of Worcester. Mr. Thomas Bayne's
contributions include Alexander Rodger, poet, the author
of ' Robin Tamson's Smiddy.1 The opening life, that of
Anastasia Robinson, is by Mr. G. A. Aitken. Space
fails us to dwell on the important lives sent by the Rev.
W. Hunt, Dr. Norman Moore, Mr. Warwick Wroth,
Mr. Thompson Cooper, Mr. R. E. Graves, Dr. Jessopp,
Mr. Charles Welch, and others of Mr. Lee's admirable
team.
THE recent issues of the Intermediaire contain, among
other information, a long, though avowedly incomplete,
list of the sacred wells existing in France; a short
account of the chemise of the Blessed Virgin, which is
preserved as a peculiar treasure at Chartres ; and a note
on another curious relic. It appears that formerly there
was exhibited in the Cathedral of Cologne a phial con-
taining a sneeze, which escaped the Holy Spirit at the
time of the Annunciation, for a correspondent of the
8tt&XI.jAH.9,'97.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
39
Intermediate makes the declaration, " J'ai lu, de mes
yeux, la chose dans une nomenclature des reliques de la
dite cathedrale, sur le lieu meme." Another corre-
spondent, in the number for 20 Oct., 1896, describes
the maraichinage as still practised in Vend6e between
betrothed couples, in spite of the opposition of the
clergy to hereditary custom ; and under the date of
20 November appears a French version of the folk-tale
relating the misdeeds of the man who murdered his
wives by tickling the soles of their feet, a story which
has made its way into Italy and into England also, for
some thirty-five years ago it used to be told in Lincoln-
shire nurseries.
THE number of Melusine for September and October,
1896, furnishes its readers with a continuation of M.
Tuchmann's observations on the beliefs connected with
fascination. It also gives further notes on the legend of
Cola Peace and its variants, and contains an article on
the brazen serpent and the Book of the Secrets of
Enoch, besides another instalment of Breton proverbs.
THE communication of the most interest to English
people in the Giornale di Eruditions for October, 1896',
relates to the discovery of vaccination, which is attri-
buted to J. A. Rabaut-Pommier, a French Huguenot
pastor, born at Nimes in 1744, from whom, it is asserted,
Jenner acquired the idea in a somewhat indirect manner.
Having acquired it, however, the English doctor under-
took a series of laborious observations, with the result
that he finally claimed to be the originator of a new
method of controlling the ravages of smallpox.
THE title of Mr. Archer's paper in the Fortnightly,
'The Blight of the Drama,' is to some extent ironical.
There is no blight on the drama. He has, indeed, no
special objection to the musical comedy or farce, which
now finds favour with the public, and sees in the popu-
larity of ' The Sign of the Cross ' " a far more depressing
portent " than in that of 'My Girl' or 'Monte Carlo.'
' A Visit to Andorra ' describes a visit to one of the least-
known portions of Europe of some eminently pushing
Englishmen. It inspires little desire in the reader to
repeat the experiment, though the difficulties expe-
rienced were scarcely greater than maybe encountered
in many parts of Spain. Mr. H. D. Traill, writing on
'The New Realism,' takes as its representatives Mr.
Stephen Crane, the author of 'The Red Badge of
Courage,' and Mr. Arthur Morrison, the author of ' The
Child of the Jago.' Mr. Morrison gets the lion's share
of attention. Mr. Traill's comments are worthy of atten-
tion. When were they otherwise? 'A Brilliant Irish
Novelist,' by Mr. G. Barnett-Smitb, deals with the work
of William Carleton, and is a piece of sound criticism.
We remember being, in youth, more stirred by a novel
of his than we ever have been by any subsequent fiction.
Not having reread it, we are not sure how much the
impressions are worth. Mr. Barnett-Smith, however,
confirms the impressions we retain. Writing on * Depre-
dators of the Nation,' the Earl of Meath draws a con-
trast between America and England very favourable to
ourselves, especially as regards freedom. Sir E. J. Reed,
in li.s 'Dr. Cornelius Hertz and the French Republic,'
a vehement defence of personal liberty, seems to take an
equally sanguine view of the state of things as betwixt
England and France.— In a number of the Nineteenth
Century of special interest to statesmen, politicians, and
controversialists, but a small space is reserved for more
peaceful and less stimulating subjects. Prominent in this
portion stands the ' Mr. G. F. Watts, R. A., his Art and
Mission,' of Mr. M. II. Spielman. Mr. Watts is credited
with a passionate desire to raise painting intellectually to
the side of poetry, and to combat the idea, very current
of late, that " Art for Art " is the only principle. From
a letter of the painter are quoted the words, " I do not
deny that beautiful technique is sufficient to constitute an
extremely valuable achievement ; but it can never alone
place a work on the level of the highest effort in poetry;
and by this it should stand." This will be regarded by
many modern critics as "pestilent heresy," but it fur-
nishes a clue to the significance of much of the painter's
highest work. Symbolism is said by the writer to be the
most obvious characteristic of Mr. Watts. We dare not
enter on the subject, but commend the article. Mr. H. J.
Palmer, the editor of the Yorkshire Post, supplies a
curious but instructive paper on 'The March of the
Advertiser.' The transformation that has been accom-
plished within the last year or two in advertising wears,
to men experienced in journalism, "the aspect of a
revolution." Mr. G. Barnett-Smith gives, in ' Napoleon
on Himself,' a few notes, previously unpublished, by Sir
George Cockburn, who was in charge of the Emperor
at St. Helena before the arrival of Sir Hudson Lowe.
The light they cast is not very brilliant, but it is wel-
come. We are not quite sure that we catch the full
intention of the Hon. Emily Lawless in her 'Note on
the Ethics of Literary Forgery.' The Comte de Calonne
writes on 'The Dame de Chateaubriant,' and combats
successfully the notion that she was slain by her hus-
band's orders. — In the New Review Mr. Charles Whibley
finds a congenial subject in writing on ' The Caliph of
Pon thill,' otherwise William Beckford. It is amusing to
hear Beckford's remark concerning Count Hamilton —
the author of 'Les Quatre Facardins' was his kinsman —
" I think Count Hamilton will smile on me when we are
introduced to each other in Paradise." His ' Excursion
to the Monasteries of Alobaga and Batalha ' is said to be
a work of pure imagination, with grandeur as its motive
and Petronius as its model. ' Coventry Patmore ' is the
subject of an appreciative study by Mr. Arthur Symons.
Of Patmore it is said that at its very highest his art
becomes abstract ecstasy. In his love poetry, " out of
which all but the very essence of passion has been con-
sumed," love is seen to be " the supreme wisdom even
more than the supreme delight." The eulogy generally
is eloquent, and, it is not to be doubted, sincere. The
general estimate strikes us as too high. Mr. F. C. Keary's
4 Phantasms ' may be read with pleasure, and the article
' Are we an Athletic People 1 ' with amusement. — The
frontispiece to the new issue of the Century consists of a
portrait of Prince Bismarck, to accompany an account
of its painter, Franz von Lenbach. Other illustrations
to this consist of portraits of Lenbach by himself and of
Prof. Edward Emerson, of the reproduction of a capital
photograph of the painter with his infant daughter, and
of views of his house and studio. An account follows of
the interesting methods now in practice for the instruc-
tion of deaf mutes. ' Campaigning with Grant ' continues
to be the piece de resistance- 'Napoleon's Interest in the
Battle of New Orleans' gives a description, from a letter
of General Jackson, of the terrible repulse of the English
on that field. Modern Athens attracts at present much
attention in America, and the paper on public spirit in
that city is finely illustrated, Mr. Godkin has a sensible
contribution on ' The Absurdity of War.' ' The Ladies
of Llangollen ' are well described, and there is a paper
worth study, by Mr. Mahan, of the United States Navy,
on ' Nelson in the Battle of the Nile.' — In Scribner's
the homes of two great writers are described— that
of Thackeray by Mr. Eyre Crowe, A.R.A., and that of
Victor Hugo by M. G. Jeanniot. Mr. Crowe's pictures
of Thackeray's haunts include those in Paris as well as
in London, with spots in Ireland, in Boulogne, and else-
where. A facsimile of a letter also appears. The
Strangers' Room in the Reform Club, with a portrait of
Thackeray, is depicted, and not the more familiar Lauut
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at the Garrick. * Victor Hugo'a House at Guernsey'
has many portraits of the poet, some showing him very
unlike what he subsequently became. A curious sketch
of Tennyson reading ' Maud ' follows. ' A Bystander's
Notes of a Massacre ' is less grim than might be inferred
from its title. — A frontispiece to the Pall Mall presents
the Grand Canal, Venice. ' Lux Hominum ' is finely
illustrated by Mr. Percy Spence. ' Warwick Castle,'
illustrated by special photograph?, is described by the
Countess of Warwick. Very striking are the designs of
Mr. Arthur H. Buckland to ' The Story of Naskata.'
1 Garris and the Bridge of Boats in 1814 ' gives an ani-
mated account of the invasion of France by the English
army in Spain, with views of Fuentarabia and St. Jean
de Luz, from old prints. ' Curling ' is described by the
Lord Advocate for Scotland.— In ' Stories of British
Battles,' in the English Illustrated, Mr. J. D. Symon
gives ' A Tale of Ramillies,' with very spirited pictures
of the fight by Mr. Woodville. Mr. Clark Russell sup-
plies further ' Pictures from the Life of Nelson.' Mr.
William Simpson depicts ' A Delhi Zenana,' a spot few
Occidentals are permitted to inspect. The most striking
designs in a richly illustrated number are those to poems,
new or old. ' Women's Colleges in Oxford ' are depicted
from photographs. — The Corrikill maintains its recon-
quered honour?, and is readable from cover to cover.
Mr. C. H. Firth gives a very moving account of ' The
Execution of Charles I.' ' Three Weeks at the Court of
Windsor,' by Sir Charles Murray, presents a very inter-
esting picture of Court life during the early years of the
Queen. Mr. Augustine Birrell, Q.C., M.P., describes
vigorously the House of Commons, ' Pages from a
Private Diary3 are agreeably continued. The writer
seems astonished at a desire of Coleridge's which we think
is both natural and common. — ' The Romantic Side of
Montaigne,' in Temple Bar, presents an unfamiliar
aspect of the great essayist. ' Sir Philip Sidney and his
Friend Languet ' deals with well-known historical rela-
tions. ' Whimsical Will Making ' is an entertaining
chapter in human nature. 'A Disappearing Soldiery'
refers to the Zouaves, and ' The English Ulysses ' to
. — Macmillan's has a good critical paper on
' Novels of Irish Life/ and a very picturesque sketch of
Mr. Charles Lamb, of the India House. ' Catullus and his
Friends' has an agreeable literary flavour. 'Juanita's
Revenge ' is a powerful description of warlike proceed-
ings — Major Martin A. S. Hume, in the Gentleman's,
under the title of ' The Madness of Mercy Newdigate,'
presents a picture of life in Spain in the time of the
Armada. A horrible subject, that of ' Chinese Punish-
ments,' is treated of by Mr. Parker. * Women as Book-
Lovers ' opens out a pleasant vista into bibliography. —
' The Damerel Spectres,' in Longman's, is a brilliant
burlesque, inspired, one might think, by Mr. Lang. Mr.
Lang is himself more than usually happy in his ' At the
Sign of the Ship.' 'The "Donna" in 1896' is to be
commended to attention. The action of the "Donna"
is unobtrusive and admirable. — Belgravia has an article
on ' Superstition in Cornwall.' — Chapman's Magazine
has the usual collection of short stories.
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Newcastle-upon-Tyne, of which a full account is given,
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Castle, Neath Abbey, the Needles, and Newark Castle
are among the spots illustrated.
MR. ROBERT H. FRYAR, of Bath, promises ' Magnetic
Magic,' a digest of the practical parts of the master-
pieces of that eminent occultist L. A. Cahagnet, F.T.S.,
rendered for the first time from the French, edited by
the translator, with a portrait of the author.
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Swine Eating Coal—" Milles MS."— Duddington Church,
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Sword— Rev. T. L, Soley— Moses Horton, 49.
REPLIES:— The County of Nichol, 49-T. G. Kilhgrew—
" God save the King "—The Man of Ghent, 50— J. Beeverell
— The Shamrock — R. Topcliffe — Exploded Tradition —
Church Tower Buttresses— " A Nott Stag," 51— " Cord-
wainers"— Duke of Otranto — Gopher— Nonjurors— Leo-
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—Bishop Williams— Sir Horace St. Paul, 53—" Registrum
Chartarum Normannise"— Longevity— Female Names, 54—
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Notices to Correspondents.
THE QUEEN'S REIGN.
(See 8th S. x. 134, 221.)
I gather from your foot-note that you now regard
this subject as closed; but I venture, notwith-
standing, to submib that there remains something
to be said by way of useful protest and warning to
your contemporaries, and, in inditing the necessary
criticism, I ask of your courtesy that I may be
allowed to correct an error in my previous com-
munication, and thus practically demonstrate my
entire agreement with MR. WARREN.
In my calculation — the parenthetical proposition
at the close of my letter not occurring to me at
the moment, that, in law, there is no division of a
day — I failed to perceive that the first day of each
reign (as well as the last of the reign or period)
must be counted inclusive. Hence I omitted one
day in each computation, namely, 25 Oct., 1760,
and 20 June, 1830. This adds one day to each
total, and the sum should be 21,645, as MR.
WARREN has it, and not 21, 644, as I inadvertently
made it.
At p. 30 of vol. x., in a note to the second
column, in my reply anent ' Parish Constables'
Staves,' I pointed out a popular error as to
Queen Elizabeth prevalent in London at the
time of the Popish Plot in Charles II. 's reign,
whereby 17 November in each year was kept as I
the anniversary of the great sovereign's birth. I
have cited, in the text of the paper to which that
note applies, the broadside wherein this error
appeared in 1680 ; but there apparently prevailed
considerable confusion in the popular — at least, in
the metropolitan — mind at this period, for, in an
analogous broadside, published in the preceding
year 1679, the day specified is referred to as the
anniversary of the Protestant queen's coronation.
This, of course, is also an error, which has, not
unnaturally, misled so able a romancist as Sir
Walter Besant, as we may see by a reference to
his charming novel, ' For Faith and Freedom.'
I think Sir Walter Scott also makes the same
mistake in ' Peveril of the Peak.' Queen Elizabeth
was crowned on the second Sunday after the feast
of the Epiphany, 15 Jan., 1558/9. Are we —
making history to-day— in danger of falling into
similar confusion anent good and great Queen
Victoria ? It would seem like it. In the Daily
Telegraph of Tuesday, 15 September, 1896 (two-
thirds down col. 1, p. 8), in the reported par-
ticulars of the then recently revealed dynamite
conspiracy, we find Accession Day (20 June) — at
all events, by the context — attributed to 23 Sep-
tember, and in the next column of the same
number and page (three-fourths down), the error is
repeated in express terms, "on the 23rd of the
present month, the date of the Queen's accession to
the throne [italics mine], a dynamite outrage should
be perpetrated in this country," &c. A similar
mistake is to be found in several other serials, and
it is not uncommon to come across another erro-
neous phrase, "the 23rd inst. [i.e., Sept., 1896],
the completion of the sixtieth year of Her Majesty's
reign," &c. Now readers of * N. & Q.,' at all
events, do not need to be informed that the
"Accession Day " of Victoria is 20 June, and that
the sixtieth year of her benignant reign will not
be completed until the midnight of Saturday,
19 June, 1897 ; but casual readers of the current
journals of to-day seem as liable to fall into chrono-
logical error as their ancestors of two centuries
ago in their mixing up of Gunpowder Plot Day,
Queen Elizabeth's birthday, her accession and her
coronation ; and the Stuart public had the greater
excuse, not only in the immature condition of the
press of that day, but in the fact that the early
events of the virgin monarch's life were double
the distance away in point of time from them that
the corresponding epochs in Victoria's career are
from us. Writers for the press would even now do
well to take note of this warning. At least they
would be spared for the future displaying the con-
fusion that pervades the Daily Telegraph in its
issue of the memorable day of the past year, Wed-
nesday, 23 September, a state of mental confusion
which even so accomplished a writer as Sir Edwin
Arnold seems to share. This gentleman appears —
with another contributor, writing under the head-
NOTES AND QUERIES.
S. XI. JAN. 16, '97.
ing ' Observances in London and the Provinces ' —
to be under the impression that " Coronation
Day " and " Accession Day " are synonymous, or,
at least, convertible terms. To paraphrase an
obsolete advertisement trade phrase, they conduce
to the unhistorian-like inference that they are the
same concern. Take the anonymous writer first.
One-third of the way down col. 3, p. 5, under the
heading I have quoted, we find the sentence, —
"In obedience to the wish of the Queen, anything in
the nature of an official celebration of the auspicious
occasion of which this [23 September] is the date will
be deferred until Coronation Day [italics mine] next
Bummer, when the Royal Lady will have ruled the
destinies of Great Britain for the unprecedented space
of sixty years."
As a matter of literal accuracy, on the recur-
rence of the anniversary of the Coronation Day in
the present year Her Majesty " will have ruled,"
&c., fifty-nine years and nine days. Does not the
journalist mean "Accession " when he writes
" Coronation " Day ? Now for Sir Edwin Arnold.
On p. 7, cols. 5 and 6, he eloquently describes the
ceremonial of the proclamation of Her Majesty's
accession to the crown (20 June, 1837) in the
" provincial town where we lived " (three-fourths
down col. 5). Probably, then, he beheld the pro-
cession on Wednesday, 21 June. One- fourth down
the next column, under the sub-heading ' Develop-
ments, Little and Large,' he goes on to illustrate the
advance we — socially — have made since that date
with an interesting episode of lucifer matches
being sold in the streets, " as I returned home "
(after witnessing the proclamation ceremony be it
observed), " at a halfpenny a match,'1 subsequently
recurring incidentally to " all the details of that
time of proclamation and coronation" (italics
mine). The combination of " proclamation" and
" coronation " might be read with the qualification
of the words " of that time " — taking the period to
extend over the intervening year and eight days ; but
we are precluded from adopting this explanation
by the context (half-way down the column), "which
[the lucifer matches] I thus saw sold for a halfpenny
a sample on the Queen's coronation day " (italics
mine) ; and, later on, the domestic convenience is
referred to as " the coronation match "j and — re-
ferring to the same occasion — " when those corona-
tion trumpets sounded "; and again — fixing the
date as 1837 — there is the explicit statement that
" the Reform Act was but five years old." Eight,
as applied to the proclamation, but the great
enfranchisement measure was over six years old
at the time of the coronation. Passim, more
especially in col. 7, Sir Edwin makes it clear that
he is exclusively referring to 1837. I need not
analyze the able article in greater detail. Suffice
it to say that the impression left on the mind of
any reader must be that the proclamation and
coronation ceremonies are treated throughout as,
at all events, contemporaneous, if not synony-
mous, functions. Now I, alas ! am old enough to
remember both celebrations — a year or two older
than Sir Edwin and his fellow contributor. Per-
sonally I saw the whole of the proclamation proces-
sion and a great part of the coronation procession in
the London streets at — as I have said — an interval
of a year and eight days, for Her Majesty was
proclaimed in the metropolis on Tuesday, 20 June,
1837, and crowned in Westminster Abbey on
Thursday, 28 June, in the following year, 1838.
Surely our modern journalism should show an
advance in historical accuracy upon the coarse
broadsheets that purveyed news two centuries and
more ago. E converso, " if they did these things
in the green tree what shall they do in the dry ] "
It is perhaps hypercritical to point ont that Sir
Edwin Arnold has erred — a mere slip of the pen, of
course— when he (one-fourth down col 7, p. 8)
writes, " When, in 1853, Her Majesty's heart was
weighed down with anxiety for her soldiers in the
Crimea," no British soldier having set foot on that
peninsula until Thursday, 14 Sept., 1854; but he
may be profitably reminded that Lord Raglan
landed with the troops, and died before Sebastopol
on Thursday, 28 June, 1855, and did not return
even temporarily to England in the interval, so
that the hero of the story about the little princess
must be some other Crimean officer ; indeed, the
anecdote has been told of Lord Cardigan, but the
episode is probably apocryphal, for what that dis-
tinguished cavalry general could have to do with
the taking of the great Russian stronghold, beyond
his presence with his light troopers between the for-
tress and the harbour of Balaklava, it is difficult to
conceive.
It may be urged that I should with more pro-
priety have addressed these strictures to the journal
in which the errors appeared ; but I ever bear in
mind Theodore Hook's warning,* which may be
paraphrased thus : "A correction of a newspaper
inaccuracy resembles very much the attempt of
Hercules to crop the Hydra, without the slightest
chance of his ultimate success." NEMO.
Temple.
CASANOVIANA.
(Continued from 8th S. x. 313.)
Among the letters of introduction brought by
Casanova to England was one for Lady Harring-
ton.
" Lady Harrington, who resided in St. James's Park,
was always at home to her visitors on Sundays. Gamb-
ling, elsewhere forbidden on the Sabbath, was permitted
at her house, for no better reason than that it stood
within the immediate jurisdiction of the king ! In no
other quarter of London are gaming and music tolerated
on Sundays, and the police unceremoniously enter pri-
vate dwellings upon the slighted suspicion that these
pastimes are indulged in. But taverns and places of
* 'Gilbert Gurney,' vol. ii. chap. i,. in the single-
volume edition, p. 155,
8« S. XI. JAB. 16, '97.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
43
evil repute are open on that day, and there people may
amuse themselves as they please."
Caroline, Countess of Harrington, was a daughter
of the second Duke of Grafton. In 1746 she
married the Earl of Harrington, and ten years
later became a leader of London society. Her
position in 1763 was analogous to that occupied
fifty years later by the beautiful Lady Jersey.
Lady Harrington, who died in 1784, is frequently
mentioned by chroniclers of the eighteenth cen-
tury, among others by Biron, Due de Lauzun.*
When Casanova made her acquaintance she was
about forty years of age, and though no longer
handsome, she bore traces of a former beauty.
Lady Harrington received him in a salon full of
fashionable people who were playing cards at small
tables. In view of her position, as one of Teresa
Cornelys's lady patronesses, Lady Harrington saw
an opening for a stroke of business. Before Casa-
nova had been ten minutes in her society she
contrived to sell him a ball ticket for two guineas.
" ( By the way,' she said, as though struck by a sudden
inspiration ; ' next Thursday there will be an assembly
of the nobility in Soho Square. Here is a ticket of
admission, ball and supper only two guineas — a mere
nothing.' When I handed her the money she wrote on
the back of the ticket the words: 'Paid. Harrington.'
I took care not to tell her that I was acquainted with
Madame Cornelys."
Having thus done what she conceived to be her
duty, Lady Harrington presented her visitor to
Lady Northumberland, who happened to be play-
ing whist at the further end of the room : —
" At the conclusion of the rubber my presentation took
place. Lady Northumberland received me graciously,
and invited me to join in around game. Although we
played for small stakes I managed in a short time to lose
fifteen guineas — a debt which I heedlessly discharged in
gold. On leaving the table Lady Harrington drew me
aside, and asked whether I possessed any bank-notes. I
told her that my portfolio contained about fifty notes,
but none for less than one hundred guineas.
"'Then why not change one of those notes?' she
said. ' It is an unpardonable gaucherie to pay your losses
in coin. Did you not remark the smile upon that lady's
face when you handed her the gold ? '
" ' I was impressed by the lady's beauty,' said I. ' Who
is she ? '
" ' Lady Coventry, a daughter of the Duchess of
Hamilton.'
' Shall I make my excuses ? '
' That is not necessary. The thing is done, and
there's an end of it. After all,' continued Lady Har-
rington, * Lady Coventry ought not to mind having
gained fifteen shillings, which is the present rate of
exchange.' '
Among those whose acquaintance Casanova
made at Lady Harrington's was one whom he
invariably styles "Lord Hervey, the hero of
Havannah." The gallant officer in question was,
of course, Capt. (afterwards Commodore) Harvey,
who commanded H.M.S. Dragon at the siege
of Havannah in 1762. He had married Miss
* ' Memoirea de Lauzun,' Paris, 1822, p. 117.
Chudleigh, from whom he was then separated.
That lady afterwards became celebrated as the
Duchess of Kingston. A portrait of Capt. Har-
vey, with a brief notice of his career, appeared in
the London Magazine for November, 1763. Casa-
nova tells us that one day, while walking in Hyde
Park with Capt. Harvey, a gentleman came up
and entered into conversation with Harvey. After
they had parted Casanova inquired his name.
" He is a brother of Lord Brockill, who was exe-
cuted for murder," replied Harvey. And then
ensued a philosophic discussion which is well
worth reading. My sole reason for mentioning
this matter is that I have not been able, even with
the assistance of the learned Mr. Edward Wai-
ford, to discover any nobleman bearing that or
any similar name who suffered the extreme penalty
of the law for any such crime. The only title in
the peerage which at all resembles the name in
question is that of Lord Broghill. This title is one
of the inferior titles of the Earls of Cork and
Orrery. It was created in 1627, in favour of Koger
Boyle, afterwards Earl of Orrery, who was distin-
guished for his learning and for his military skill
in and after the time of Cromwell. No owner of
that title was ever executed. Being certain that
Casanova would not have mentioned this incident
unless there had been ground for such a state-
ment, I offer the problem for solution to those who
may be interested in such matters.
" One morning I went with Martinelli to the British
Museum, where I saw some fine pictures by Rubens and
Van Dyck. In the evening we went to Drury Lane
Theatre, where, owing to a change in the programme,
there was a serious disturbance. Although several
members of the royal family were in the house at the
time, their presence was not sufficient to abash the
rioters. Garrick in vain came three times to the front
of the stage, and attempted to address the people. He
was received with hisses and hooting, while apples,
potatoes, and other missiles were hurled at him. Upon
the fall of the curtain the people in the pit rose in a body,
and stormed the stage. Everything was broken, and the
scenery torn into shreds. I never saw such destruction
— nothing but the bare walls remained. Martinelli
laughed a good deal at this spectacle of mob fury. Aa
for myself, I had lately been reading Montesquieu and
Voltaire, who both uphold the sagacity and self-control
of the English people. After that exhibition of un-
reasoning impulse I scarcely knew what to think of those
great philosophers. It seemed as though their doc-
trines had just received a crushing refutation."
On 25 Jan., 1763, there was a riot at Drury
Lane Theatre, and on 24 Feb., 1763, there was a
similar riot at Covent Garden, but I have not been
able to find any record of an cmeute at a London
theatre during the summer of that year. It is, of
course, possible that Casanova, in his declining
years, may have regarded as a personal experience
an episode which he had heard freely discussed.
A similar effect is said to have been produced on
the mind of George IV. at the bare mention of the
battle of Waterloo— the curious result of a graphic
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description upon an imaginative mind or, possibly
in some cases, a too retentive memory. The men-
tion of poor old David Garrick's name suggests the
following.
St. James's Chronicle, 15 Sept., 1763 : —
" Mr. Garrick left his house in Southampton Street,
Corent Garden, for Italy."
On the day fixed for the ball at Soho Square,
Casanova presented himself at Carlisle House, and
found the rooms already full of people. Lady
Harrington, the most influential of her patronesses,
handed over to the Cornelys the money she had
amassed by the sale of tickets — a sum which on
that occasion happened to be considerably in excess
of the average receipts.
" I will not try to describe that soiree, which has left
no lasting impression on my memory. I found the
manners of that vast assemblage BO stiff and cold, that,
at the end of a couple of hours, unable to support the
tedium longer, I seized my hat and left the place."
Casanova's impressions of London are instructive.
"London is about the last place in the world wherein
to reside when in low spirits. Its environments, like its
atmosphere, are sombre and dull. In vain I tried to
dissipate the gloom by which I was afflicted. My days
were passed in wandering aimlessly about the streets,
and when exhausted I took refuge in coffee houses.
The people who came in and went out formed my sole
distraction. It amused me to watch all those parrot
faces, resembling nutcrackers — their pinched mouths
opening and shutting as if worked by a spring — articu-
lating shrill strident sounds, while they methodically
munched long slices of buttered bread and emptied huge
bowls of tea.
One day, while Casanova was in the neighbour-
hood of Piccadilly, be saw a large crowd of people.
Meeting Martinelli by chance, he inquired the
cause. I quote Casanova's words, as they refer to
an incident which has been independently recorded
in the ' Memoirs of George Selwyn ': —
"'That crowd,' said Martinelli, 'is surrounding an
unfortunate man who has received a violent blow while
fighting.'
' Cannot he be saved ? '
" ' A doctor who came upon the scene wished to bleed
him,' answered Martinelli; 'but, strange to say, two
gentlemen, having betted one hundred guineas on the
issue of life or death resulting from that blow, decline
to allow the doctor to interfere.'
" ' Do you mean to say that the life of that man will
be sacrified for the sake of a bet ] '
" ' Probably. The rage for betting is deep rooted in
this country, and there are everywhere in London clubs
where betting is the chief amusement.'
" ' And if this man dies, what will be done to his
opponent?'
" ' If the fight was not a fair one— if there was any
foul play— he will be hanged. If otherwise, his right
hand will be branded with a hot iron. That mark will
show that the man has already caused the death of a
fellow creature, and that his neck is ripe for the gibbet.'
' Let us suppose that a man thus branded is himself
attacked.'
'"In that case he has only to show his hand, and he
1 be left in peace. If he kills his assailant in self-
defence the law will absolve him.' "
It would be instructive to compare that extract
with the version narrated by George Selwyn. It
is surely a strange coincidence that an incident
of no general interest, occurring in the streets of
London, should have appeared in the memoirs of
two persons living in countries far apart and utterly
unknown to each other.
Wishing to test Casanova's accuracy in regard
to details unconnected with matters of history, I
pitched upon the following paragraph : —
"My brother Jean made me a present of an onyx
of great beauty. It was a cameo representing Venus
at the bath, a real antique, for with a powerful magni-
fying glass the name of the sculptor Sostratus, who
flourished twenty-three centuries ago, could be distinctly
read. Two years later I sold that gem to Doctor Maati
in London for three hundred pounds. It is probably
still at the British Museum."
It seemed to me that this statement might be
put to the proof, and, thanks to the courtesy of
the British Museum authorities, my researches led
to the following result. Of Dr. Masti (probably
Musters) nothing is known. He may have sold
the cameo during his lifetime, or it may have been
acquired by Mr. Townley; but certainly he did
not dispose of it to the British Museum. No. 802
in the Department of Greek and Roman Antiquities
is an onyx cameo representing Aphrodite ; and
No. 2309 is an onyx cameo representing a satyr
seated, clutching at the robe of a maenad who
stands (back to front) looking at him. In her
right hand is a thyrsus inscribed CI20TPAT
(Sostrat), but presumably thus engraven in
modern times. This gem came to the Museum in
the Townley Collection (1814). It is mentioned
by Brunn,* who quotes Casanova's words.
The Lord Pembroke of that day was a friend of
Casanova. His name frequently appears in this
portion of the 'Memoirs.' In 1763 Henry, tenth
Earl of Pembroke, was twenty-nine years old.
He had married, in 1756, a daughter of the third
Duke of Marlborough, and resided (presumably
apart from his wife) at Chelsea, where Casanova
frequently dined with him. Lord Pembroke at-
tained to the rank of a lieutenant-general in the
army ; was colonel-in-chief of the 1st Dragoons,
and died in 1794. In his youth he seems to have
been a libertine, and, like most sportsmen in those
days, was strongly addicted to cock-fighting. His
marriage was no bar to his bohemianism, and he
introduced Casanova to some very shady people,
through whom he made the acquaintance of New-
gate. Lady Pembroke is never mentioned in the
' Memoirs.' That good woman survived her hus-
band thirty-seven years, and died in 1831. Early
in September of this yearf Commodore Harvey,
accompanied by Lord Pembroke, Sir William
Boothby, and Mr. St. John, left London for Ply-
* 'Gesch. der Gr. Kunstler, ' vol. ii. p. 587.
t See St. Jameis Chronicle, 6 Sept., 1763.
S. XI. JAN. 16, '97.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
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mouth in order to conduct H.R.H. the Duke of
York to the Mediterranean.
RICHARD EDGCUMBE.
33, Tedworth Square, Chelsea.
THE PATRON SAINT OF AUCHTERARDER. — The
parish church of Auchterarder was undoubtedly
dedicated to St. Mackessog. This appears from
the foundation charter of the Abbey of Inchaffray
of 1200 and subsequent charters contained in the
chartulary. A well a short distance to the south
of the church still bears the time-honoured name
of the saint, while his day, 10 March, is kept as
one of the principal fairs of the town.
A mistake has crept in and been perpetuated
in ascribing the patronage to St. Kentigern or
St. Mungo. Dr. Eankin, in his interesting and
otherwise accurate article on the ancient churches
of Strathearn contributed to the ' Chronicles of
Strathearn,' refers to this dedication, and endea-
vours to account for it by supposing that there
may have been an altar or side chapel dedicated to
St. Mungo in the church of St. Mackessog ; but
there is nothing to warrant such an assumption.
There is neither a side chapel on the outside of
the building nor room within its narrow walls for
a side altar, and there is no historical evidence to
support such a theory. The error appears to have
originated in a random statement in the inaccurate
account of Auchterarder contributed to * The New
Statistical Account of Scotland,' Perth, 290, and
perpetuated by other writers, notably by Walcot
in his * Scoti Monasticon ' and the * Historians of
Scotland,' vol. v. xc.
I observe that a writer of a guide-book,
' Walks round Auchterarder/ says that the chapel
within the town where the present parish church
stands was said to have been dedicated to St.
Mungo. This is also erroneous. The chapel
was dedicated to our Lady. This appears
from a charter, dated 3 December, 1477, by
Symon Wylde, burgess of the burgh of Auch-
terarder, in favour of Agnes Wylde, his brother's
daughter, and John Young, her husband, of two
crofts on the north side of the burgh. One of the
crofts is described as " Ilia proximius capelle nostre
Domine," and the reddendo is " servicio et susten-
tacione dicte capelle sex solidos vsualis monete
Scocie annui redditus annuatim." This shows
that not only was the chapel dedicated to our
Lady, but a stipend of six shillings Scots was im-
posed upon the adjacent croft for its service and
upkeep. Sir Alexander Hyrdman, priest, had then
the adjoining croft on the west. It is evident that
while the church of St. Mackessog was the parish
church, there was a pre-Reformation chapel within
the town, above referred to ; and while the cure of
the parish church was served by a parochial curate
appointed by the Abbey of Inchaffray, the burgh
chapel had also a chaplain. Sir David Cardney
was curate of the parish church in 1520, while Sir
William Ewinsone was at the same time chaplain.
In 1603 the chapel yard was used for holding the
Burgh Courts, an inquest under a brieve of lining
having been then held in it.
Dr. Rankin appears to suppose that the present
parish church dates only from 1660. The present
church was built about that time, but replaced
the old chapel of our Lady of unknown antiquity.
A. G. REID.
Auchterarder.
BLANCO WHITE'S SONNET ON 'NmHT. '—The
well-known analogy drawn by J. Blanco White
between Night and Death, as the possible revealer
of glories unseen in this life, may perhaps have
been suggested by a somewhat similar comparison
made by Madame de Stael in * Corinne/ adfinem.
The passage to which I refer runs thus : —
"Deja la nuit s'avance a mea regards, maia le ciel
n'est il pas plus beau pendant la nuit? Des milliera
d'6toiles le decorent. II n'est de jour qu'un desert.
Ainsi, lea ombres eternelles reveleiit d'innombrables
pensees que 1'eclat de la prosperity faisent oublier."
Thos. Moore's conclusion of his hymn, beginning,
" Oh ! Thou who dry'st the mourner's tear," pre-
sents yet another mode of treating the same natural
phenomenon : —
Then sorrow, touch'd by Thee, grows bright
With more than rapture's ray;
As darkness shows us worlds of light,
We never saw by day !
R. BRUCE BOSWELL.
THE THRUSH AND THE BLACKBIRD. — A writer
in the Saturday Review of 15 Aug., 1896, review-
ing Mr. J. H. Crawford's ' Wild Life of Scotland,'
finds an example of the naturalist's " realistically
poetical style " in a contrast that is set forth
between the thrush and the blackbird. This is
how the matter appears to these two authorities :
"The mavis breaks into song in the morning 'in a
glad matin breathing the hopefulness of daybreak. The
blackbird belongs to the evening, as his very colour
would suggest. His song is a vesper, according with the
soberness of twilight.' '
Has either of these writers been among the hedge-
rows at dawn in early summer ; or has it ever
been his lot to be on the point of falling asleep at
that early hour in a bedroom overlooking shrub-
beries ? If so, his observation must have been
restricted in some extraordinary way if he failed
to notice the singing of blackbirds. The fact is
that, with the doubtful exception of the robin, the
blackbird is probably the quickest of Scottish
songsters to hail with its full liquid notes the
approach of smiling morn. No doubt it sings, and
sings very beautifully, in the evening as well, con-
tinuing its minstrelsy till dewy eve has fairly
settled over the landscape, as if taking the last
farewell of the day that it was so prompt to herald.
Very nearly the same may be said of the thrush.
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NOTES AND QUERIES. [8th a xi. JAN. ie,
Both birds are heard to advantage in the morning
and the evening, and the distinction that assigns
one of the periods to each, however "realistically
poetical " it may be, is neither scientific nor accu-
rate. THOMAS BAYNE.
Helensburgb, N.B.
' HAMLET,' 1603. — In a very interesting article
describing the Shakesperean books preserved at
Warwick Castle, which appeared in vol. i. of ' The
Shakesperean,' occurs the following startling
statement : " The earliest edition of * Hamlet,'
for Nicholas Ling and John Trundell, 1603."
At first I imagined it was possibly a facsimile; but,
proceeding further, I noted that all facsimiles were
clearly mentioned. Surely there must be some
mistake, as copies of this edition are so rare that
for many years the Duke of Devonshire's copy
was the only one known to be extant ; however,
another copy turned up, which is now in the
British Museum. Most of the copies of Shake-
sperean quartos can be traced to the different
owners' libraries. Surely the rarest and most
cherished one would have been notified by some
Shakesperean bibliographer i There are many
other editions described as original in this Warwick
collection; but until the originality of the
'Hamlet' copy is confirmed the others must
remain doubtful. MAURICE JONAS.
2, Drapers' Gardens.
C(
SCOT" AS A HORSE'S NAME.— Chaucer (Prol.
616) mentions Scot as a horse's name ; of which
there are numerous examples, as the name is in
use still. But the following note, at p. 60 of the
Third Series of ' Collectanea ' of the Oxford His-
torical Society, is well worth notice. The editor
remarks that horses' names are often given in old
inventories, and adds,
in Berington's inventory of the stock on the estates
in 1389 [note the date] we find bayard porter, bayard
pyn-hors, bayard cutte, gray Scot, bayard blind, gray
Frampton, gray ambler, gryme, gray doxo, bay blind,
gray bleb, gray Rougton, Scot, brune, gray Hard, Gyll,
In this contemporary list Scot appears twice.
WALTER W. SKEAT.
" TWILL." — I am able to give very early quota-
tions for this word, which was introduced into
England from the Netherlands, probably in the
time of Edward III. In an inventory written
about the year 1400, printed in the Third Series
of ' Collectanea ' of the Oxford Historical Society,
at p. 44, is the entry : "Item, i manutergium
tweyld pro principalibus. " Again, in a similar
list, dated 1456, at p. 52, we find : " Item, unum
manutergium tweld pro principalibus."
WALTER W. SKEAT.
' ARSE-VERS£." — This expression is quoted in
the ' English Dialect Dictionary ' (so splendidly
begun, felix faustumque sit /) from Bailey (1721),
Jamieson, and others, as a spell written on a house
to prevent it from burning. All these authorities
fail to note that it is a direct borrowing of the
archaic Latin arse verse, an incantation against fire
preserved by Festus, which he says meant " ignem
averte " (avert arson). It must have been con-
veyed bodily by some classical dominie.
A. SMYTHE PALMER.
S. Woodford.
GOG AND MAGOG. — An old West-Country book,
' Specimens of Cornish Provincial Dialect,' gives
the following unmistakably Western version of the
origin of these names : —
"The Trenoodles was well to do as long agone as one
thousand and one hundred years before the Christian
era; for, about this time, the grand wrestling bout
corned off at the Hoe at Plemouth, between Corn'meus
and Gog-magog, when Cornineus thrawed hea man by a
Cornish hug (then first found out by he), and gived hea
name to Cornwall, which were the prize aa they wrestled
for. Gog-magog was so bedoled, and so sheamed at
being beat, that he dedn't live long after, and leaved two
sons who divided hes name between them, and was after-
wards great figurs up along en the town-hall to Lunnon
church town."
ANDREW HOPE.
Exeter.
SANTIAGO. — The popularity of [St. James, as
patron of Spain, has led the Spaniards to enlarge
the name from lago to Santiago. This is brought
out strongly in the Spanish version of Acts i. 13,
where both St. James the Greater and St. James
the Less are mentioned : "Donde tenian su morada
Pedro, y Santiago, y Juan, y Andres, Felipe y
Tomas, BartolomI y Mateo, Santiago hijo de Alfeo,
y Simon el Zelador, y Judas hermano de Santiago."
And in the "Orden de los Libros" the San is
actually duplicated, thus : " Epistola Catolica de
S. Santiago." The fact that the Spanish New
Testament is a Protestant translation makes the
case only the stronger.
RICHARD H. THORNTON.
Portland, Oregon.
" ANIMALCULE." — I was under the impression
that this incorrect plural of animalculurn, which
one often meets with instead of animalcula, was
a product of this enlightened century. This, how-
ever, is not the case, as I have recently found it
in Foote's 'The Devil upon Two Sticks,* 1768,
III. ii.:—
"Hellebore Brethren and students, I am going to
open to you some notable discoveries that I have made,
respecting the source, or primary cause of all distempers
incidental to the human machine : And these, brethren,
I attribute to certain animalculce, or piscatory entities,
that insinuate themselves thro' the pores into the blood,
and in that fluid sport, toss, and tumble about, like
mackarel or codfish in the great deep."
Here we have in anticipation the modern theory
of germs, bacilli, bacteria, et id genus online.
F. C. BIRKBECK TERRY.
3. XI. JAN, 16, '97.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
We must request correspondents desiring information
on family matters of only private interest to affix their
names and addresses to their queries, in order that the
answers may be addressed to them direct.
WATERSPOUT AND WHIRLWIND. — Have any
superstitions concerning these survived the bacillus
of the Board School ? Are they, or were they,
regarded exclusively as workers of evil, as abodes
of the sky-chief, or a storm-demon ? Moreover,
is it certain that they are fired at by sailors purely
on philosophic grounds ?
In Dalmatia firearms are looked upon as pro-
tective against them in the same sense with which
the Russian peasant regards his hatchet, which he
hurls at them believing them to be wizard- wrought.
The fisher-folk at Amalfi and Majori, on perceiv-
ing a " coda d'acqua " approaching, are wont to
utter a conjuration of so blasphemous a nature
that I failed to induce any one to repeat it.
' Usano parole contro la legge Cattolica." Never-
theless, they declare it to produce satisfactory
results, and they obtain absolution for employing
it. On uttering it contortions of a violent nature
are said to be observed in the spout, and presently
it parts asunder in the midst. The work of a
demon is undone by a countercharm — in this
instance, one evidently not Christian.
Thomas Aquinas, inspired doubtless by Clemens
Alexandrinus, admitted that demons could and
did, by consent of God, cause these phenomena ;
Bonaventura admitted the same ; and Albertus
Magnus gravely followed suit. At the Lake of
Scanno, near Sulmona, I was informed that in the
olden days many a whirlwind was there raised and
despatched on its evil errand by "forza magica."
Albertus states that a certain powder thrown into
a well will cause a whirlwind. This teaching
became a dogma of the faith, and, enlightened as
he is in many respects, the present Pontiff, despite
his observatory, abides by the scientific teaching
of the author of the ' Summa' — i. e.y of the thir-
teenth century.
If, however, we turn to earlier sources of
doctrine concerning such physical manifestations,
great surprises come upon us. I turn to the Book
of Job, and find that the phenomena of cloudland,
especially the whirlwind, are emanations of a
direct single Deity. From the clouds he sends
forth blessing or chastisement, from the whirlwind
he utters himself. The clouds are his especial
domain, his arsenals, his pavilions. Nor is the
Book of Job alone in this monotheistic doctrine ;
the Major and Minor Prophets appear to be in
accord with it.
In the classics we find Lucretius, and the
Greeks before him, designating the waterspout
'prester, the burner," while Lucan (vii. 156)
termg it ( « Pytbopa.8, Aquarum," By the way,
readers of the former poet may profit by the com-
parison of his fine description (vi. 423) of a water-
spout with the following, by the traveller-poet of
Portugal, who loves to tell of " Sea-changes lands-
man never apprehendeth ": —
Little by little growing high in air,
With bigger girth than thickest mast it loomed ;
Here slim its middle, broad its bosom, where
Huge gulps of water were in floods enwombed ;
The wave of every wave it seemed to share ;
While gathered vapours o'er its summit gloomed,
Increasing ever more, and overcharged
As the vast waterload its bulk enlarged.
.....
But when 'twas wholly filled and fully fed,
Withdrawn the footing planted on the main,
Athwart the welkin pouring floods it fled,
With water bathing 'jacent watery plain,
And all the waves it sucked in waves it shed
Wherein no salty savour mote remain.
' Lusiad,' v. 20, 22 (R. F. Burton).
ST. CLAIE BADDELBY.
"HARPIE" OR "HARPY."— Can any of the
readers of ' N. & Q.' throw light on the origin and
the meaning of "harpy" ; also tell me if the
creature is anywhere used in heraldry ?
THE UNMISTAKABLE.
[Lat. Harpyia, pi. harpyice, Gr. apQviai, the
snatchers, in Homer a personification of whirlwinds,
later a hideous winged bird of prey. Cf. Greek apTn;,
a bird of prey, dp7r-a£-£iv, snatch, seize. In Greek
mythology a ravening and obscene monster, with the
face and body of a woman, the wings of a bird, and
feet and fingers with sharp claws. You will find in
heraldry the harpy represented as a vulture, with the
head and breast of a woman, a harpy with wings
extended and inverted, also a demi-harpy displayed.]
CARTWRIOHT'S ' KOYALL SLAVE.' — Can any of
the readers of ' N. & Q.' give me a list of the
various editions of W. Cartwright's play * The
Royall Slave'? Has it been reprinted in the
course of this century in its original form ?
A. E. H. SWAEN.
Almeloo.
PINCKNEY FAMILY.— The Pinckney family bear
the same arms as the original Percies, five fusils
in fesse (one branch having the fusils in pale).
Were the Pinckneys and the Percies connected
in the twelfth and thirteenth centuries ?
A. HIPPISLEY SMITH.
Langton Rectory, Malton, Yorks.
HERTFORD STREET, MAYFAIR. — In Clinch's
'May fair and Belgravia' it is stated (at p. 105)
that Hertford Street was formerly called Garrick
Street. What is the authority for this statement ?
ARTHUR DASENT.
"BOONDED."— This word is said to be used in
Westmorland in the sense of "swollen, inflamed."
Thus, " T' back ov his hand was o' boonded up,
thoo nivver saw seek o' seet," I should be glad to
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
know whether any of the readers of 'N. & Q.'
have ever heard the word.
THE EDITOR OF THE
'ENGLISH DIALECT DICTIONARY.'
The Clarendon Press, Oxford.
Miss MAT E. WILKINS.— This writer's first
published story was written for a fifty - dollar
prize offered by the Boston Budget. The story
was called 'The Ghost Family.' Can any
American correspondent kindly give me the exact
reference for the number of the Budget containing
this story? The story of Miss Wilkins's early
experience with the editress of Harper's Bazaar
was told by a writer in the New York Critic
some year or two back. I shall be much obliged
if some one can give me also the reference for this
number of the Critic. G. L. APPERSON.
THE LAPWING AS A WATER-DISCOVERER. — Can
any of your readers tell me the origin, or give me
any further particulars of the following legend,
mentioned in Dr. Brewer's ' Dictionary of Phrase
and Fable,' under the head " Water-Discoverer " ?
" The Persians believe that the lapwing (hudhud)
has the power of discovering water underground."
W. F. B.
THE DUKE OP WELLINGTON. — Can any of your
correspondents say on what authority the state-
ment is made that the Duke of Wellington once
said, " Waterloo was won on the playing fields of
Eton"? ALEX. B. TULLOCH.
PIGEONS TRAINED TO REPRESENT DEPARTING
SOULS. — Dr. Brewer, in the last edition of * Phrase
and Fable,' has the following note, s.v. " Mouse " :
*' No doubt pigeons were at one time trained to
represent the departing soul, and also to represent
the Holy Ghost." What authority is there for this
statement ? Can any examples be given ?
JAMES HOOPER.
Norwich.
MEDIEVAL ACCOUNTS.— -In 'The Ceramic Art
of Great Britain/ p. 66, the author, Llewellynn
Jewitt, says : —
" One of the earliest written notices of crockery we
have is the oft-quoted entry in the account of payments
by the executors of Queen Eleanor, wife of Edward I : —
' Item Juliana la potere pro ccc picheriis die anniversarii
Beginae viijs. vjd.' '
He gives another quotation from the same MS.,
but no reference. Can any correspondent say
where this roll of accounts may be seen or any
copy of it ? As it is so " oft quoted," it has pro-
bably been printed. OLIVER BAKER.
101, Gough Road, Birmingham.
"ACELDAMA," ACTS i. 19. — Will some one
inform me how Aceldama is usually pronounced
from the reading-desks of the Church of England ;
whether with the p soft or hard ? The popular
dictionaries, e. g., Nuttall's, give it soft. This, I
think, unwarrantable. Were c in English always
soft before e there might be some excuse ; but, as
it is sometimes hard, as in " sceptic," there is
none. The Textus Receptus has 'AKeXSa/xa ;
the Sinaitic and Alexandrine MSS., 'AxeA-Sa/xax';
the Vatican, 'A/ccXSa/xax'. The Revised Version,
I am glad to see, has Akeldama.
R. M. SPENCE, M.A.
Manse of Arbuthnott, N.B.
THE PRONOUN " SHE."— At 8th S. x. 152, MR.
PLATT suggested a quite new explanation of this
difficult word. At any rate, it is not given in any
dictionary. I have been waiting in the hope that
some one better qualified than myself would chal-
lenge it ; but, as it seems to have attracted no
criticism, I hope I may be pardoned for asking thus
late if there is any ground for supposing that the
sound which MR. PLATT mentions really existed
in Anglo-Saxon. FRANK EVANS.
ROBERT DYER. — Wanted the date and age at
death of Robert Dyer, purser in the Royal Navy,
who was buried at the Falkland Islands. He
married at St. Germans, in 1754, Sarah Boger,
daughter of Richard Boger, surgeon, of St. Ger-
mans, Cornwall. A. S. DYER.
3, Blomfteld Street, Bayawater.
RIDOLIO. — Can any of your readers inform me
what is the modern name of " Ridolio, a city of
England"? The mention of it occurs in Belluacensis,
quoted in a translation of an Italian book written
in the seventeenth century. The incident, casually
mentioned by Belluacensis, took place in the four-
teenth century, " when a pestilence raged in that
city." There is nothing to indicate the locality,
and I can find no such place as Ridolio in the
' Orbis Latinus,' nor in the only ancient atlas that
I have been able to consult at present.
R. MILLS.
Do SWINE EAT COAL? — The captain of the
Auckland, which left Seville recently, told me that
a pig which got lost in the coal hole of a sailing
ship at a northern English port arrrived safely at
Java, having had nothing to eat but coal. The
rector of Fledborough, Notts, tells me that he has
seen pigs eat coal, and that it would be held in
the Midlands a sign of ignorance to ask if they do.
Will other animals eat it ? PALAMEDES.
"MiLLES MS." — What is the document cited
by this name in Halliwell's 'Provincial Glossary'?
Does it still exist ; and in whose hands ? Q. V.
DUDDINGTON CHURCH, NORTHAMPTONSHIRE. —
Can any of your readers explain why in the south
porch of this church there should be a two-light
window on the eastern side, and a single- light
window on the western, there being nothing
peculiar in the surroundings to call for a difference
8«i S. XI. JAN. 16, '97.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
49
between the windows ? I may add, what I believe
is of architectural interest, that the two-light
window is all one stone, a piece of old Barnack
rag, coroprisiDg the four sides of the window and
the dividing mullion. The two arches of the
window are round. CELER ET AUDAX.
SHAKSPEARE AND EMBLEM LITERATURE. —
' King John,' V. ii. 74-76 (Globe Text). This is
one of those passages in Shakespeare which seem
to have been suggested by some familiar emblem.
Does a symbolical illustration to this effect appear
in any of the emblem-books of the sixteenth
century? E. P. B.
* BELSHAZZAR'S FEAST.' — Some forty ^ years
ago I read a three-volume novel giving a description
of the siege of Babylon, the writing on the wall,
the diversion of the river, death of Belshazzar, &c.
I think the name of the novel was ' Belshazzar's
Feast,' but in this I may be mistaken. If one of
your older readers has come across the book, which
he may recognize from my brief outline, and could
give me its proper designation, and tell me whether
it is still extant and where a copy is likely to be
found, I should feel very much obliged to him.
T. S.
THE BLACK PRINCE'S SWORD. — Was this
sword ever in Canterbury Cathedral? Somner
(1640) and Battely (1703) say nothing about it, as
far as I can find. Dart (1727) says nothing, but
his engraving of the tomb shows a short empty
scabb&rd suspended above the canopy. Buncombe
(1783) mentions the scabbard, and adds, "The
sword itself is said to have been taken away by
Oliver Cromwell." Hasted (1800) says, " The sword
itself, as is reported, was taken away by Oliver
Cromwell," and adds, "Mr. Todd supposes that
[the target] perhaps snared the same fate with the
renowned warrior's sword, which was stolen in the
great rebellion" (Hasted, xi. 411, note). Stothard,
Woolnoth, and Blore repeat the Cromwell story.
I want to know, supposing the sword to have been
in Canterbury Cathedral (which I at present
doubt), where it is now. I know where " it is said "
to be, but the "it is said " as to its present where-
abouts is no more satisfactory than the Cromwell
story. J. M. COWPER.
Canterbury.
REV. THOMAS LOCKEY SOLEY. — Is anything
known of the antecedents and connexions of the
Rev. Thomas Lockey Soley (or Solay), who was
rector of Northfield, Worcestershire, in 1742 ? I
should particularly like to know the reason of his
bearing the curious Christian name of Lockey.
A. F. H.
MOSES HORTON, MINIATURE PAINTER. — I
should be much obliged for any information con-
cerning him. E, G. CLAYTON,
JUphinoad,
THE COUNTY OF NICHOL.
(8th S. x. 515.)
Leland's rendering is quite correct. "Nicol"
(subject to variations of spelling) is the regular
word for Lincoln in Anglo-Norman (see Blount's
'Law Dictionary,' ed. 1691). The oldest examples
with which I am acquainted are of twefth century
date. Gaimar, in his * Lestorie des Engles,
written before 1150 (Rolls edition, 1. 148), thus
describes the eight counties subject to the see of
"Nicole":—
Nichole e Haratone [Northampton],
Hereford* e Huntedune,
Leiceetre e Bedefurd,
Bukinham e Oxneford.
And in the French romance of ' Havelok ' ap-
pended to Gaimar in the same volume (1. 196), a
king named Alsi is said to rule
Nicole et tote Lindeseie.
On this, see Prof. Skeat ('Havelok,' E.E.T.S.,
pref. p. xxiv, notes). Our knowledge that Thomas
Becket, when he fled from Northampton in con-
sequence of the proceedings of the council, directed
his course to Lincoln, we owe to Latin chronicles.
But Gamier de Pont Sainte Maxence, in his 'Vie de
Saint Thomas' (ed. Hippeau, pp. 72, 73), writes that
on leaving Northampton Becket journeyed by by-
ways, making first for "Nicole":—
Le sekunt jur, tut dreit est en Nioole entrea.
After a brief lodging there,—
En un batel ainz jura,t saint Thomas s'en entra
Dreit par de auz le puntj de Nikole passa,
Et vers Sempigueham|| al Hermitoire alia,
Another example, of later date, may be found
in Ruffhead's ' Statutes at Large,' vol. i. pp. 171-2,
ed. 1763. The famous statute of sheriffs, 9
Edw. II. (1315-16), was made, in the words of
the statute itself, " a son parlement a Nicole," and
was submitted to the Sheriff of York with the
following precept : —
"Rex vie' Ebor' salufcem. Mittimus tibi quoddam
statutum in parliamento nostro apud Lincoln' editum
precipientes quod statutum illud in omnibus articulis
suis quantum ad te pertinet firmiter & inviolabiliter
faciaa observari. T[este] Rege apud Lincoln' xx die
Febr' anno &c. nono."
In the Camden Society's « French Chronicle of
London1 (p. 30) the names of the sheriffs for
1304-5 appear as " Johan de Nicole et Roger de
* Should be Hertford, cf. ' Robert of Gloucester '
(Rolls edition, 1. 104).
t In a boat before daylight.
j; Straight under the bridge.
I Elsewhere written " Semepingham.
needless to add that Sempringham, where the archbishop
lay in hiding over a weefc, is in Lincolnshire, about thirty
miles from Lincoln.
50
NOTES AND QUERIES. [8*8. xi. JAN. 16/97.
Paris "; in Fabyan's ' Chronicle ' they are given as
lohn Lyncoln and Rogier Parys.
The words " la ville de Bytham en le counte de
Nicol " occur in a manuscript of about 1400 in the
Record Office ('Early Chancery Proceedings,'
bundle 3, No. 46).
There is no etymological reason for the Norman
version of the name. Our conquerors found the
pronunciation of the Saxon name inconvenient,
with its strange mixture of liquids and guttural,
so they eased it by suppressing the medial n and
changing the initial I to n (compare niveau,
formerly livel; nomble for lomble, from Latin
lumbulus). F. ADAMS.
106A, Albany Road, Camberwell.
[Many replies to the same effect are acknowledged.]
^ THOMAS GUILFORD KILLIGREW (8th S. x. 135 ;
xi. 31). — The. "elaborate pedigree" above men-
tioned appears to give no particulars of Jemima,
mother of Lieut. Guilford Killigrew. This lady
was born 18 Aug., 1672, being daughter of Paul,
and sister and heir of Guilford Bokenham, of
Weston Market, co. Suffolk. Through her, doubt-
less, the name of Guilford came into the Killigrew
family. She was married, 21 May, 1687, at St.
Olave's, Jewry, London, the marriage license
(above mentioned) being dated two days previously:
Her husband, Charles Killigrew, was buried 8 Jan.,
1724/5 in Savoy Chapel. She apparently never
remarried, her will as "Jemima Killigrew, of
Thornham Hall, co. Suffolk, widow," is dated
19 Jan., 1727/8, and proved 14 July, 1731, and
there is no mention therein of the name of De la
Force. One of her infant sons, however, was buried
at Hampstead 4 May, 1699, which shows some
connexion with that place. The only children who
survived her were Charles (born 26 April, and
baptized 30 April, 1691, at the Savoy) and the
said Guilford (born 29 March, and baptized
31 March, 1701, at the Savoy), whose will, dated
1 March, 1748/9, was (as stated above) proved
23 July, 1751. Might not Thomas Guilford Killi-
grew have been an illegitimate son of this Charles,
who died unmarried 9 March, 1756 ? His age in
1728, if conjectured rightly as "about fourteen,"
would not admit of his being a son of Guilford,
who was born in 1701. G. E. C.
"Goo SAVE THE KING " (8th S. x. 234, 362,
438, 478 ; xi. 10).— I am sorry that MR. WALTER
HAMILTON should be hurt by any " asperity " of
tone in my reply ; but he must not be surprised
if a little impatience be shown when a contributor
reopens in 'N. & Q.' a question which has been
thoroughly discussed elsewhere, and completely
solved, so far as it can be solved. That is the case
with this present question. Let him read the
article in Grove's 'Dictionary of Music and
Musicians ' and Mr, Cummings's " investigation "
in the Musical Times, March to August, 1878, and
he will there see all the facts clearly displayed,
facts from which it is entirely impossible to deduce
the conclusion which he maintains, that the
melody was "essentially German," or that "God
save the King " was " made in Germany." When
a writer asserts that a melody, long believed of
British origin, is "essentially German," I think
that, in respect for those who hold the other view,
he should state his reasons, should give examples,
or otherwise attempt to prove his theory.
With regard to my first reply, I beg to be
allowed to add that I did not connect the word
"fraud" with him in anyway; he has only to
refer to my contribution to see that. I cer-
tainly did, as I still do, call the mythical German
origin of this tune a " fable," and I did com-
pare it to that other constantly recurring fable
of the " Harmonious Blacksmith," which, by a
curious accident, did actually flare up once more,
like an ignis fatuus, on p. 481 of the same number
of ' N. & Q.,' only to be promptly snuffed out by
our vigilant Editor.
I am obliged to A. M. D. for the proffered loan
of R. Clark's book ; but I already possess that work,
and have had it for many years. Its author was
the father also of the " Blacksmith" myth.
MR. HAMILTON taxes me with having " mis-
represented " him. This is a very serious charge.
It is a most unusual accusation (especially in
'N. & Q.'), and one which, if ever made, should
have been supported by some evidence, or should
be at once withdrawn.
Finally, I protest against the abuse of space in
these columns by the rediscussion of questions
already thoroughly threshed out elsewhere by
competent hands, and I confidently count on the
support of the large majority of contributors in
making that protest. JULIAN MARSHALL.
This subject has again cropped up in ' N. & Q.';
and perhaps I may be allowed to suggest an altera-
tion in the wretched rhyme of " laws " and " voice."
(1) One verse is all-sufficient ; (2) each of the
triplet lines must consist of two spondees and an
iambus (note the first metre must not be a
trochee) ; (3) the general subject of the established
anthem must be preserved.
I suggest the followingllines : —
May ehe our laws defend,
Long reign the nation's friend,
And make all discord end,
God save the Queen.
E. COBHAM BREWER.
THE MAN OP GHENT (8th S. x. 415, 499 ; xi.
18). — Was not Guizot styled by this name because
he took refuge at Ghent with Louis XVIII. during
the Hundred Days ? Its use would imply that his
Liberalism was only skin-deep.
SAMUEL R. GARDINER,
8"> 8. XI. JAN. 16, '97.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
51
JAMES BEEVERELL (8th S. ix. 48, 397).— Is it
known where Vander Aa got the illustrations for
' Les Devices de la Grand' Bretagne ' ?
The number of maps and plates is very large ;
and these, if produced expressly for the work, must
have been very costly. I am told that some are
probably reductions from earlier plates ; but my
informant is unable to say when and where the
originals were published.
As a handy repository of historical evidence of
architectural change in general and of alterations
in particular buildings, * Les Devices ' would be of
considerable use if we knew the exact dates of the
plates. Can one of your readers put me in the
way of ascertaining these ?
It may be as well to note that in the British
Museum copy of the first edition, the whole of the
plates (which do not, so far as I saw, show page
numbers to guide the binder) are collected in the
fifth volume. Were they issued separately from
the volumes to which they relate ?
In the second edition, page numbers (not always
correct) are engraved on the plates. Q. V.
THE SHAMROCK, A CHARGE IN THE NATIONAL
ARMS (8th S. x. 296).— Folkard, in his 'Plant-
Lore,' says, under " Iris " (p. 388) : " After many
changes of position, the fleur-de-lys finally dis-
appeared from the English shield in the first year
of the present century"; and under "Shamrock"
(p. 545) : " Queen Victoria placed the trefoil in
her royal diadem in lieu of the French fleur-de-lis."
These statements are not quite on all-fours with
Mr. Caparn's, but they may have the same origin.
0. 0. B.
The heraldic information given in the paper on
' Iris " is evidently an error, as the proclamation
issued in 1801 says the arms of the United King-
dom shall be " Quarterly : first and fourth England,
second Scotland, third Ireland, &c. There shall be
borne therewith on an escutcheon of pretence the
Arms of Our Dominions in Germany ensigned with
the Electoral Bonnet." The badges settled at the
Union are : A white rose within a red— England.
A thistle— Scotland. A trefoil vert— Ireland.
Willemont's * Kegal Heraldry,' on plate 34, gives
them conjoined. The writer of the paper would,
think, be unable to give his authority for the
statement. It may be that the wish was the father
to the thought. JOHN KADCLIFPE.
RICHARD TOPCLIFFE (8th S. x. 133, 198).—
Many particulars are supplied in 'N. & Q.,' 5th S.
vii. 207, 270, 331, 357, 417. W. 0. B.
ANOTHER EXPLODED TRADITION (8th S. x. 412).
— I should be glad of any information as to the
correctness of the statement in the Daily Graphic
25 September with respect to the great
Napoleon and " the display of the silver urn con-
taining the ashes of La Tour d'Auvergne " (" urn "
and " ashes " indicate that our hero "was cremated),
famous as "One of the Best" of the soldiers
of the Republic and the Consulate. I have
always understood that he fought and met — as he
wished — a soldier's death at Neuburgh, 27 June,
1800 ; that he was buried on the field where
he fell, and placed dead with his face to the
enemy ; that at the roll call at every subsequent
parade of the 45th of the line the name of the
first man called was that of " La Tour d'Auvergne,"
as if he were alive and well, and a soldier then
answered, " Mort sur le champ de bataille." " A
general and a colonel," it is true, like brave men,
have fallen in fight at the head of a brigade or a
regiment ; but, however, it may be mentioned that
La Tour d'Auvergne, descended from one of the
most distinguished families in La Belle France,
was only ambitious to serve his country by carry-
ing a musket in the ranks. One of the first to
volunteer for any post where the danger was
greatest, he resolutely refused all offers of promotion,
being desirous only of living among his comrades
the simple life of a soldier, and he was therefore
known by no other title than that of " Le Premier
Grenadier de la France."
HENRY GERALD HOPE.
Clapham, S.W.
CHURCH TOWER BUTTRESSES (8th S. x. 494). —
It has been asserted that the practice of using
church towers as belfries is both modern and de-
generate. A review of Weingartner's ' System des
Christlichen Thurmbaues ' appears in the Saturday
Review for 21 April, 1860, which says of church
towers : —
"Their first origin, he maintains, was as a monument
to those who were not worthy to be buried in a church,
and afterwards they were joined to the church to mark
and adorn the spot where the altar concealed the sacred
relics. Their gradual application as belfries, and the
oblivion of their pristine destination, were indicated aa
centuries went on by their more and more westerly
position."
See'N. &Q.,'2»dS. ix. 342.
EVERARD HOME COLEMAN.
71, Brecknock Road.
A single negative proves very little ; but in
reply to MR. MILLS I may say that the church
tower of Heacham is supported by a massive
buttress, erected about a century ago, and that
there has never been a peal of bells in the church,
The tower is probably at least five hundred years
old. HOLCOMBE INQLEBY.
Heacham Hall, Norfolk.
"A NOTT STAG" (8* S. x. 336, 381, 442,
506).— Dr. R. S. Charnock's 'Glossary of the
Essex Dialect,' 1880, has: "Not, smooth, polled
or shorn, as 'not sheep,' sheep without horns;
also well tilled, as a 'not field." "Not cow"
and "not sheep" are expressions used also in the
Isle of Wight, Wright's ' Dictionary of Obsolete
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[8*8. XL JAN. 16, '97.
and Provincial English ' has : u Imagining all the
fat sheep he met, to be of kin to the coward
Ulisses, because they ran away from him, he
massacred a whole flocke of good nott ewes"
(* Metamorph. of Ajax,' Prologue). Wright gives
also not-wheat, a kind of wheat without beard.
In Ash's 'Dictionary,' 1775, it is curiously sug-
gested that nott is perhaps derived from not.
F. 0. BIRKBECK TERRY.
"CoRDWAiNERs"= SHOEMAKERS (8th S. x. 253,
343).— In Potter's « Stamford District Directory,'
1896, I find one T. Goodwin, of Collyweston,
Northants, described as " cord wainer."
CELER ET AUDAX.
DUKE OP OTRANTO (8th S. x. 196, 222).—
Your correspondent will not have forgotten Man-
fred, Prince of Otranto, in the celebrated Gothic
story by Horace Wai pole.
EDWARD H. MARSHALL, M.A,
Hastings.
* GOPHER, EOMAN CATHOLIC AUTHOR (8th S. x.
235, 341, 601).— It is to be hoped that a stupid
blunder in a bookseller's advertisement will not
lead to the inclusion of a non-existent writer in
some comprehensive bibliographical compilation of
the future. In truth there never was a Roman
Catholic author of the name of Gopher. The
name is simply a misprint for Gother. The
Uev. John Gother, or more correctly Goter, was
a noted controversialist on the Catholic side at
the close of the seventeenth century. Born of
Presbyterian parents at Southampton, he was
educated by them in sentiments of hostility to the
Catholic faith, but he was converted to the Roman
communion, and was sent by a relative to the
English College at Lisbon, where he arrived on
10 January, 1667/8. After being admitted to the
priesthood he was sent on the mission to England
in the year 1682, and in the violent controversy
whioh was carried on during the reign of James II.,
be was the principal champion of the Catholic
cause. In 1704 he sailed from this country for
Lisbon, and died at sea on 13 October in that year.
There is a full account of him and his works
by Mr. Thompson Cooper in the ' Dictionary of
National Biography.' Among numerous authorities
Mr. Cooper quotes ' N. & Q.,' 2nd S. i. 510.
VINCENT BRYAN.
NONJURORS IN THE EIGHTEENTH CENTURY (8th
S. x. 455).— See 'N. & Q.,' 1" S. viii. 621 ; 2nd
S. viii. 227 ; ix. 74, 105 ; x. 289, 376 ; 3rd S. vi.
92 ; 4th S. i. 459, 515; Lathbury'a 'History of
Nonjurors'; 'Life and Writings of Charles Leslie,
NoDJuror and Divine'; * William Law, Nonjuror
and Mystic.' BAYARD 0. DIXON.
20, Leigham Vale, Streatham.
Your correspondent I. F. M. C. might examine
a MS. at the Record Office, described as a " List
of Papists and Nonjurors refusing to take the Oaths,
1, 2, & 3 Geo. I., Various Counties." I fear, how-
ever, he will be unable to distinguish the Non-
jurors, properly so called, from the Catholic
Recusants, who form the overwhelming majority
of the persons named in the above document. I
have a copy of the list for Herefordshire.
JOHN HOBSON MATTHEWS.
Town Hall, Cardiff,
For information respecting the Nonjurors in
Manchester and the district around, see * Lanca-
shire : its Puritanism and Nonconformity/ by
Robert Halley, 1872; 'Lancashire Nonconformity,'
by the Rev. B. Nightingale, 1893 ; ' Historical
Sketches of Nonconformity in the County Palatine
of Chester,' by W. Urwick, 1864. Canon Raines's
MS. at the Chetham Library, Manchester, con-
tains notes respecting the above.
JOHN RADCLIFFE.
The correspondent who asked for information
regarding the Nonjurors will find what he wants
probably in the Rev. T. Lathbury's 'History of
the Nonjurors ' (Lond., 1845). T.
The man to answer this, if I. F. M. 0. will only
apply to him direct, is the gentleman who has the
honour, I believe, to be the oldest living con-
tributor of 'N. & Q.,' that "grand old man" the
REV. JOHN INGLE DREDGE, the veteran rector of
Buckland Brewer, near Bideford. None knows
the history of English theology at the end of
the seventeenth and beginning of the eighteenth
century as he does, and his courtesy and readiness
to give information is an example, indeed, to us
younger men. MR. DREDGE contributed to vol. ii.
of the 'Palatine Note-Book' a most interesting
list of the Nonjurors of Chester diocese, and his
knowledge of the West Country will enable him to
add much on that topic.
T. CANN HUGHES, M.A.
Lancaster.
LEONARDO DA VINCI'S PAINTING OP THE
'LAST SUPPER' (6th S. ix. 507 ; x. 89 ; and 'The
Last Supper,' x. 129, 197).— The following is an
extract from ' Christ in Art,' by Dean Farrar : —
" The arrangement follows to some extent the ancient
tradition. Christ is seated in the midst of His Apostles
at the further side of the table ; the other side is left
unoccupied. The Apostles are divided into four groups
of threes, into which they have been broken up by
the electric shock of the words, ' Amen dico vobis quia
unus vestrura me traditurua sit.' Christ Himself
remains majestic in His isolation. Hia eyes are bent
downwards ; His gesture shows how awfully He has felt
His own words, but He is not watching the effect they
have produced. At the right of the Saviour, Peter
is leaning across the traitor Judas to whisper in the
ear of the youthful and beautiful St. John that he
should ask Christ whom He meant to indicate. Peter
is ardent and excited ; John is sunk in sorrow. Judas
is grasping the bag in his right hand, while his left,
half-lifted from the table, shows that he, too, has been
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alarmed; his face is powerful and bad, but not revolting.
His arm has— at least in Raphael Mengs' engraving—
with evil omen upset the saltcellar. St. James, at
Christ's left, is shrinking back with a gesture of wild
sorrow and astonishment, while one Apostle has started
up and is laying his hand on his heart, and another
leans across St. James to attract Christ's attention by
his uplifted finger to the eager question, ' Lord, is it I ? '
In this great picture Leonardo broke with all past
tradition, cast a spark of fire into the assembly, and
boldly ventured to change the quiet familiar celebration of
Christ's Last Supper into a scene of passionate dramatic
action. And yet only such a master could maintain
that noble moderation in the midst of this ferment of
feeling, in which sadness, pain, uncertainty, anger, in
dignation, and even horror, are combined.*"
CELER ET AUDAX.
"IMPERIUM ET LIBERTAS" (8th S. x. 453). —
"Imperium et libertas" appears to have become
in the seventeenth century the common form of
quotation. In Spencer's * Things New and Old,'
with a preface by Fuller in 1657, section 124
begins: "'Divus Nerva,' says Tacitus, 'duas res
olim insatiabiles conjunxit, imperium et liber ta-
tem.' " The not inappropriate variant will not fail
of observation. A former contributor to'N. &Q.,'
PROF. J. E. T. ROGERS, objected to the colloca-
tion of the two substantives in Disraeli's speech.
But I cannot remember where his remarks were
seen. There was an edition of Spencer in 1867 ;
the passage is in vol. i. p. 56. The Professor's
objection was that libertas ought to come first,
and must have been so in the quotation. The
references to Cicero, 'Philipp.,' iv. 4, viii. 3, may
serve to justify the objection. ED. MARSHALL.'
It may assist to an elucidation of the origin of
this phrase if it is noted that 10 Nov., 1879, was
not the first occasion upon which Lord Beacons-
field publicly used it. In the peroration of his
speech of 11 Feb., 1851, in the House of Commons,
on agricultural distress, the then Mr, Disraeli
observed that "the land of England" was "that
> Lubke, ' History of Art,' ii. 217. According to
Stendhal, the exact explanation of the picture is as
follows : Judas half turns to discover of whom St. Peter
is speaking so passionately, and is preparing himself
to deny everything. But he is already discovered.
St. James the Leas, passing his arm over the shoulder
of St. Andrew, touches St. Peter to tell him that the
traitor is at his side. St. Andrew looks at Judas with
horror, and St. Bartholomew at the end of the table has
started up from his seat to regard him more intently.
At the left of Christ St. James protests his innocence
by a natural gesture, opening his arms to expose his
defenceless breast. St. Thomas, pressing near to Christ,
seems to ask, 'One of us? ' St. Philip, the youngest of
the Apostles, places his hands on his heart and rises to
protest his fidelity. St. Matthew repeats the terrible
words to the indignant St. Simon, who refuses to believe
them. St. Thaddeus, who has first told them to him,
points to St. Matthew to confirm them. The dying
rays of evening light add deeper sombreness to the sad
face of the Christ.— Stendhal, ' Hiatoire de la Peinture
Italienne.' "
land which has achieved the union of those two
qualities for combining which a Roman emperor
was deified, ' imperium et libertas." Who was
that Roman emperor ? ALFRED F. ROBBINS.
'THE MILL,' A POEM (8th S. x. 51, 422).—
Does A. M. mean Tom Taylor's 'The Mill/
included in Birket Foster's 'Pictures of English
Landscape,' p. 51 ? The date of publication, 1863,
is considerably less than seventy years ago, but,
as the querist is uncertain about the date, it may
be the reference he requires. I quote the poem
in full for identification, because it is short, and
because it is a farther contribution to S. W.'s
'Windmills' subject (8th S. ix. 488) :—
The Mill.
Black and weather-warped and old,
Looking o'er the windy wold,
Gaunt and grim and rearing high
Its ragged sails against the sky,
For many a year hath stood the mill j
Hath heard the plover's eager cry,
Hath seen the blue cloud-shadows fly
Across the heath, athwart the hill..
Births and deaths, with lives between^
Of many a miller, it hath seen ;
Many a pair of stones worn out,
Many a set of gearing stout,
But change of fashion, time and tide,
The ancient mill hath still defied.
In its place upon the hill —
Sweeping sails or standing still —
Emblem of enduring will.
Serving with a constant mind,
Though it serve the inconstant wind.
The volume from which this poem is taken ia
highly valued by art connoisseurs on account of its
engravings. ARTHUR MAYALL.
BISHOP THOMAS WILLIAMS (8th S. x. 456).—
It is highly probable this Catholic prelate was a
member of the good old Monmouthshire family,
the Williamses of Monmouth, Usk, Llangibby, &c.,
which gave many ecclesiastics to the Church. A
recently deceased member was the very Rev.
Monsignor William Williams, Vicar • General of
the diocese of Newport and Menevia, and rector
of St. David's, Cardiff, where he died 1895. la
default of more precise information, this may
perhaps help MR. BATSON to obtain the particulars
he seeks. JOHN HOBSON MATTHEWS.
Town Hall, Cardiff.
SIR HORACE ST. PAUL (8th S. x. 356, 466, 500).
— Thanks to the communications of MESSRS. WEL-
FORD and WALFORD, I have in a measure satisfied
my curiosity as to the lineage of this now extinct
name, though the accounts to which these gentle-
men refer me do not impart facts bearing upon the
rise of the house, i. e.y what particular early brain
it was that laid the foundation of the patrimony
which enabled its members to enjoy the revenues
of a goodly Northumberland estate, and how and
when this same family got into that county. Were
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[8«xS.XI. JAN. 16, '97. r
they of the Scotch Paula ? But my antiquarian
curiosity touches mainly the first Sir Horace, 1775-
1840, arising merely from a batch of old letters that
have lately come into my possession, causing in me
a desire to know what he stood distinguished for
in the eyes of his contemporaries ; what stroke of
fortune it was, political or otherwise, secured for
him his title ; and whether any of the readers of
* N. & Q,' could point out some account of him.
In fact, I seek a general outline of his career. He
is called a Count of the Holy Eoman Empire !
What had he to do with the fortunes of that lapsed
empire ? Was he born at Wooler ; did he die
there ; and what are the words to be found upon
his tombstone ? Did he endow anything for the
benefit of that ancient town ; and does his name
appear in any of the county histories ? Who now
owns Ewart Hall, House, or Park ? Whence came
the Choi well name, which he bore ? I know of
one, too, who bore it as a personal name. Sir
Horace is mentioned in terms of considerable regard
in these old epistles belonging to me, and I got the
impression that he must have been a man of social
brilliancy, highly endowed with characteristics
which would have served well both the pen and
the pencil of Thackeray. SBLPPUC.
" REQISTRUM CHARTARUM NORMANNIJE " (8th S.
x. 415). — Norman Kolls beginning with that for
2 John are preserved in the Tower, a portion of
which has been published. A catalogue was also
published by Thomas Carte, in 2 vols. folio,
London, 1743. The earliest begins, " Hie est
rotulus Cartarum et Cyrographarum Normannise
factus Anno 2 regni Regis Johannis " (Sims's
'Manual'). ED. MARSHALL.
LONGEVITY (8th S. x. 516).— I think PROF.
SEBAT and the other lexicographers will be too wise
to trouble themselves about such a word as MR.
PALMER suggests. It will not be wanted. If the
race is increasingly longsevous, it will only be, say,
that where five lived to be a hundred, seven may
do it. I entirely disbelieve 110 years ; and I
should have thought any reader of Mr. Thoms's
book would do so. I have seen in my life some
four or five people turned of ninety years ; and
when I remember the state of weakness they were
in, I hardly know how to think it possible that
they should live ten years longer, let alone twenty.
Of course it is possible, because it has happened ;
but it wants proof. I do not ask MR. PALMER to
prove the age of his ancient friend, but he must
not ask people to believe it without proof.
C. F. S. WARREN, M.A.
Longford, Coventry.
It may be worth recording in your columns that
there is living in this town a man, named Patrick
Hayes, who was born in the County Cork more
than a hundred years ago. He remembers the
French landing in Bantry Bay in 1798, and be-
lieves he was then at least five years old. He sings
long-forgotten patriotic ditties about Nelson and
"Old Boneyparty," can read and write without
much difficulty, and has scarcely a grey hair in his
thickly-covered head. I often talk Irish with him,
and saw him at early Mass on Christmas Day.
This wonderful old man walks out in the coldest
weather without an overcoat, but pathetically
laments that he is getting hard of hearing. He is
a great-great-grandfather, and has a perfect regi-
ment of descendants. Endeavours have been made
to find the registration of his baptism, but it appears
that in those troublous times the registers were not
kept. I remember that some years ago medical men
of eminence roundly denied the existence of centen-
arians, but this sort of scepticism has not been
advanced so freely of late.
JOHN HOBSON MATTHEWS.
Town Hall, Cardiff.
The subject of longevity was so abundantly discussed
in the time of Mr. Thorns, that the present Editor is,
like his predecessor, solicitous to avoid it.]
FEMALE NAMES : Avis AND JOYCE (8th S. x.
254). — These names are by no means rare. Here
is an extract from the marriages in the Daily News
of 3 Oct., 1893 :—
" Power— Weiss.— 28th Sept., at St. Peter and St.
Edward's Roman Catholic Church, Westminster, by the
Rev. J. Butler, John O'Connor Power, formerly M.P.
for the county of Mayo, and Avis, widow of the late
Hubert Poveaux Weiss, Esq., P.R.C.S.Eng."
In 1894 the Daily News chronicled the marriage
of Avice Laura Puddy on 27 Jan., and death of
Avice Hope Kydon on 29 Aug., both at Brighton.
The name Avice is, I suppose, the same as
Hawise, Hadewisa, &c.
Old John Lightfoot, a rather notable divine of
the seventeenth century, married Joyce Compton.
On 17 Nov., 1893, the Daily News had a notice
of the strange death of Joyce Jones ; and from the
Suffolk Times and Mercury of 25 Sept., 1896, I
append the following : —
"Cullum. — On the 14th September, at Shotley,
Richard, husband of Joyce Maria Cullum, aged 59 years."
As these are mere casual gleanings, it will be
obvious that these pretty names may almost be
called common. JAMES HOOPER.
Norwich.
Miss Yonge, in her 'History of Christian Names/
1863, refers (vol. ii. p. 212) to Haduwig, " which
the old German name-writer, Luther, makes war
refuge,'' as the source of the English names
Havoise, Hawoyse, Havoisia, Avice, Avicia, Avis.
Mr. Robert Ferguson, in his 'Teutonic Name-
System/ 1864, thinks that from the stem avt Goth.
avo= ancestor (?), extended to cwn'a, come Eng.
Avis, Aviz (p. 290).
Both Auiza and Avicia are found in the ' Liber
Vitse Ecclesise Dunelmensis ' (Surtees Society).
S. XI. JAN. 16, '97.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
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occurs on p. 53, and is referred to about
the beginning of the thirteenth century.
Canon Bardsley says that "Joyce," sometimes
the result of a mere nickname, is nothing more than
" Jocosa." It is difficult to see how it can be so
derived.' Does it not rather come from Fr. joyeuse ?
F. C. BIRKBECK TERRY.
Before 1600 one constantly meets with these two
names, both in English and under the Latin
forms, as cited by MR. PICKFORD, but I have never
had the good fortune to meet with any one in the
flesh bearing either, or those two other female
names, in their day equally common, Effane and
Gilian. Nicholas Corsellis had daughters baptized
at the Dutch Church, London : Josine in 1592,
Jossynken in 1596, Josyntken in 1602. Their
mother was nee Joyce Vannaker. I suppose Josine
is the Dutch form, and that Jossynken = Little
Joyce. C. E. GILDERSOME-DICKINSON.
Eden Bridge.
Miss "Avis" Webster, sister of Sir Richard
Webster, M. P., lives, and is I trust in good health.
"Joyce" Stewart, net Green, was nurse in my
family for many years, but recently died.
Hie ET UBIQUB.
[Very many replies to the same effect are acknow-
ledged.]
ST. SAMPSON (8tb S. viii. 427 ; ix. 16 ; x. 79,
199, 324). — The notion of Ross as to Cricklade,
i. q., with Grsecolade or Greekolade, has been
shown to be a myth. See J. Parker's * Early
History of Oxford,' 1885, pp. 1-16, 26-32. Had-
dan and Stubbs (Bishop), in their ' Councils and
Ecclesiastical Documents of Great Britain and Ire-
land,' vol. i. p. 159, state of Bishop Sampson : —
"Hia fictitious Archiepiacopates at York and at St.
David's appear first in the pages respectively of Geoffrey
of Monmouth and of GiraMus Cambrensis, the fiction
about his pall being due to the latter."
ED. MARSHALL.
' HARDYKNUTE ' (8th S. x. 476). — The history
of this ballad was summed up by Mr. Robert
Chambers, in his pamphlet on 'The Romantic
Scottish Ballads : their Epoch and Authorship,'
1859, in the following words : —
" In 1719 there appeared, in a folio sheet, at Edinburgh,
a heroic poem styled ' Hardyknute,' written in affectedly
old spelling, as if it had been a contemporary descrip-
tion of events connected with the invasion of Scotland
by Haco, King of Norway, in 1263. A corrected copy
was soon after presented in the * Evergreen ' of Allan
Ramsay, a collection professedly of poems written before
1600, but into which we know the editor admitted a piece
written by himself. ' Hardyknute ' was afterwards re-
printed in Percy's 'Reliques,' still as an ancient com-
position; yet it was soon after declared to be the
production of a Lady Wardlaw, of Pitreavie, who died
so lately as 1727. Although, to modern taste, a stiff and
poor composition, there is a nationality of feeling about
it, and a touch of chivalric spirit, that has maintained
for it a certain degree of popularity. Sir Walter Scott
tells us it was the first poem he ever learned by heart,
and he believed it would be the last he should forget."
The object of Mr. Chambers in writing this
essay was to show that not only ' Hardyknute,'
but * Sir Patrick Spens ' and many more of the
Scottish romantic ballads, were due to the pen of
Lady Wardlaw ; but this position was vigorously
and in the opinion of the best authorities success-
fully, assailed by an esteemed correspondent of
' N. & Q.,' the late MR. NORVAL CLYNB, of Aber-
deen, in a pamphlet entitled ' The Romantic
Scottish Ballads and the Lady Wardlaw Heresy/
MR. CLTNB, however, while manfully defending
the claims of * Sir Patrick Spens,' * Gil Morrice,'
' Gilderoy,' and many others, " as genuine relics of
the old minstrelsy of Scotland," was forced to admit
that Lady Wardlaw wrote the ballad of ' Hardy-
knute.' This lady was Elizabeth, daughter of Sir
Charles Halket, of Pitfirran, and was born in 1677.
She was the wife of Sir Henry Wardlaw, of Pit-
reavie, and died in 1727. She was described by
her relations as " a woman of elegant accomplish-
ments, who wrote other poems, and practised
drawing, and cutting paper with her scissors, and
who had much wit and humour, with great sweet-
ness of temper." That she was the author of
'Hardyknute' was stated by members of her
family after her death, and was more than half
acknowledged by herself, and, notwithstanding
the usual attempts at mystification in such cases,
there appears to be no reason for doubting the
statement of the Edinburgh reviewer. If MR.
BATNB does not know the pamphlets I have cited,
I can promise him a very pleasant afternoon's
reading at any time when they may come in his
way. W. F. PRIDEAUX.
Kingsland, Shrewsbury.
MAINWARING DEED (8th S. x. 175, 221).— The
Chartularium at Peover Hall, Cheshire, is pro-
bably the one referred to. A precis of it, so far as
the various spellings (" Diversifyings ") of the sur-
name— 394 in all — are concerned, will be found
in H. Green's * Knutsford ' (1859), pp. 46-7.
T. N. BEUSHPIELD, M.D.
Salterton, Devon.
SAUNDERSON FAMILY (8*11 S. ix. 429 ; x. 35).—
"The Genealogist's Guide to Printed Pedigrees
by George W. Marshall, LL.D. London:
Bell & Sons, 1879," gives the following :—
11 Saunderson. — Burke's * Landed Gentry,' 2, and
supp. 3, 4, 5 ; ' History of Blyth,' by Rev. John Raine,
75 ; Hunter's ' History of the Parish of Sheffield,' 398 ;
Hunter's • Deanery of Doncaster,' i. 274 ; Thoroton'a
'Nottinghamshire,' iii. 427."
EGBERT PIERPOINT.
St. Austin's, Warrington.
LEATHER CHALICE CASES (8th S. x, 453).— Such
a case was described a few years ago in a paper
read before the Cumberland and Westmoreland
56
NOTES AND QUERIES.
S. XI. JAN. 16, '97.
Antiquarian and Archaeological Society. I believe
the paper is printed in vol. viii. of the Society's
Transactions. Q. V.
LADY ALMERIA CARPENTER (8th S. x. 517). —
This lady was daughter of George (Carpenter), first
Earl of Tyrconnel ; she died in 1809. Sir Joshua
Reynolds painted her portrait in 1768-9 ; it was
engraved by J. R. Smith, Watson, and S. W.
Reynolds. The picture was sold in Sir R. Price's
sale (1854) for 250?. G. W. TOMLINSON.
Huddersfield.
She was eldest daughter of George, first Earl of
Tyrconnel (which title became extinct in 1853),
and died unmarried 5 Oct., 1809. Her connexion
with the Packes I do not find.
C. F. S. WARREN, M.A.
Longford, Coventry.
Lady Almeria Carpenter was the eldest daughter
of George, first Earl of Tyrconnel. She was pro-
bably connected with the Packes through her
mother, Frances, the only daughter of Sir Robert
Clifton. Lady Almeria died, according to Burke's
'Extinct Peerage,' on 5 Oct., 1809.
(jr. F. R. B.
A SQUIB WANTED (8th S. x. 435 ; xi. 12).— I
am thankful to R. R. for his vigorous defence of
Gavazzi's person and eloquence, and I can fully
bear out his testimony to both. Shortly before his
death I had the privilege of both hearing and
speaking to him, and found him all that R. R. says
of him. Though a foreigner, he spoke and wrote
English en maitre, as his sermons and works testified.
The only volume of his that I possess is entitled
' My Recollections of the last Four Popes/ pub-
lished in 1858, a splendid specimen of his mastery
of English and of his dialectic skill. In person,
too, he was the very reverse of despicable — a man
of commanding presence and wonderful power of
eye and gesture. R. R.'s note is nothing but sheer
justice to a man who bore enough obloquy in his
life to deserve not to be traduced after his death.
J. B. S.
JOHN ANDR£ (8tb S. xi. 8).— For Major Andres
ancestry, consult Chester's * Westminster Abbey
Registers,' and for the inscriptions on the Andre*
vaults refer to Robinson's ' History of Hackney,'
vol. ii. p. 47. Col. Chester says that " the precise
time and place of his [Andrews] birth or baptism
have not been ascertained. It is very probable
that he was born at Paris, where his mother's
father lived and died." Robinson does not give
the date of Andre's birth, but he distinctly mentions
where it took place. " Major Andre" was born at
Clapton, in one of the three houses situated im-
mediately at the back of the pond " (vol. i. p. 295).
This was written in 1842.
H. G. GRIFJFINHOOFE.
34, St. Petersburg Place, W.
A SKITTISH WIFE IKON-SHOD BY HER HUSBAND
(8th S. xi. 5). — The terrible story from Russia,
contributed by H. E. M., recalls in some respects
an incident related by Scott, in his ' Tales of a
Grandfather,' to illustrate the ferocity of the High-
landers during the reign of James I. of Scotland.
One of the MacDonalds had shoes nailed to the feet
of a poor widow whom he had robbed. When her
wounds were healed, she travelled on foot from
Ross-shire to Edinburgh, and complained to the
king. James caused MacDonald and twelve
followers to be seized, shod in the same manner,
publicly exhibited thus for three days, and then
executed. E. G. CLAYTON.
Richmond.
THE WORD " GNOFFE " IN CHAUCER (8tb S. vii.
226, 256, 357, 437 ; x. 439).— The word gannef
(also spelt ganf, but always pronounced as two
syllables, with the accent on the first) is used in
Dutch in the sense of thief, rogue, and is often
playfully applied to a boy that has cleverly appro-
priated a thing of little value. According to Van
Dale's ' Woordenboek ' it is a corruption of Hebr.
ganndb. E.
Amsterdam.
HILL, SCOTTISH ARTIST (8th S. xi. 8). — The
note by the Editor of ' N. & Q.' is taken from my
first edition. In the second edition, Mrs. A. R.
Hill is included in Mrs. D. 0. Hill, her Christian
name being Amelia R.; she was a sculptress.
ALGERNON GRAVES.
ATTERBURY (8th S. ix. 249). — In answer to
ATTERBURY'S query, I can say that the Rev. Lewis
Atterbury, LL.D., had three sons and a daughter.
The last married George Sweetapple, of St.
Andrew's, Holborn, brewer. Their daughter,
Penelope Sweetapple, was living in 1811 (vide
Lysons's ' Environs,' vol. ii. p. 435). Bedingfield's
two brothers died young. He, himself, died soon
after he bad entered holy orders. His mother
was Penelope, daughter of John Bedingfield, Esq.
The Rev. Lewis Atterbury, rector of Sywell, co.
Northampton (also thirty-six years preacher of
Highgate Chapel ; twenty-four years, 1707-31,
rector of Shepperton, co. Middlesex ; and eleven
years rector of Hornsey), died at Bath, 20 Oct.,
1731, aged seventy-six. He is buried in Hornsey
Chapel (M.I.). If ATTERBURY will write to me,
I shall be happy to send him a few notes I have
on the Atterbury family. CHAS. A. BBRNAU.
Clare House, Lee, Kent.
PETWORTH GAOL : PARISH REGISTERS (8th S*
xi. 7). — I possess a list of nearly three hundred
parish registers which have been printed for sale
either by subscription or privately, about two dozen
in books or periodicals, and one hundred and forty
which have been copied, the transcripts of many
of them being either in the British Museum or the
8>h S. XI. JAN. 16, '97.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
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College of Arms. I have no account of the printing
of the Petworth registers, which contain baptisms,
marriages, and burials from 1559 to 1812. One of
an earlier date appears to be missing. By 52
George III. c. 146, the new register commenced in
1813. See also ' N. & Q.,' 1»S. iii. 449, 485, 510;
iv. 27, 125. EVERARD HOME COLEMAN.
71, Brecknock Road.
JUDGE GUEST (8th S. x. 517).— It is probable
that John Guest, Chief Justice of Pennsylvania,
was identical with John Guest, son of Eichard
Guest, of Stafford, pleb. He matriculated from
Pembroke College, Oxford, 10 May, 1667, then
aged seventeen, and was admitted to Lincoln's Inn
in 1670 (Foster's ' Alumni Oxonienses,' 1500-1714,
ii. 617). DANIEL HIPWBLL.
MOLLY LEPEL (8* S. x. 516).— The ballad of
which an extract is given by Mr. Austin Dobson
in his charming essay on Lady Hervey is said to
have been the joint composition of the celebrated
Earls of Chesterfield and Bath. It will be found
in Jesse's * George Selwyn and his Contemporaries,'
i. 214.
The lines were written in imitation of the well-
known ballad of 'Molly Mog,' which was first
published in Mist's Weekly Journal, No. 70,
27 Aug., 1726, a parody on it having been printed
in the previous number. In the number for
10 Sept., 1726, Mr. Mist printed a number of
additional verses, which had been furnished by the
" wits in town." The ballad was reprinted, with
a "burlesque" on it, in the Weekly Journal of
1 Oct., 1726. It then reappeared in Pope and
Swift's ' Miscellanies,' 1727; but is not to be
found in any edition of Gay's works printed
before 1773.
The ballad
on Molly Lepel must have been
written almost immediately after the appearance
of E Molly Mog in Mist's Weekly Journal, as
Arbuthnot writes to Swift, under date 8 Nov.,
1726, that Lady Hervey was
' in a little sort of a miff about a ballad, that was wrote
on her, to the tune of ' Molly Mog,' and sent to her, in
e name of a begging poet. She was bit, and wrote a
to the begging poet, and desired him to change
o double entendres; which the author?, Mr. Pulteney
and Lord Chesterfield, changed to single entendres. I
was against that, though I had a hand in the first. She
is not displeased, I believe, with the ballad, but only with
being bit."
Mary, or Molly, Mog was the daughter of John
Mog, who kept the " Rose Inn " at Oakingham, or
Wokmgham, in Berkshire. He died in 1736. His
daughter, who never married, survived him thirty
years, and died on 7 March, 1766, in her sixty-
seventh year. She was thus the same age as Lady
dervey, who died on 2 Sept., 1768, leaving behind
r an unrivalled reputation for charm, for beauty,
and a daintiness of taste which ensured the friend-
ship of Horace Walpole, and enhanced the com-
forts of feminine life by the introduction into
England of bouquet-holders from her much-loved
Paris.* W. F. PRIDEAUX.
Kingsland, Shrewsbury.
The ballad to which your correspondent refers
appears in * The New Foundling Hospital for Wit/
pt. v. pp. 45-7, 1772. It is entitled " A Ballad,
by the Earls of Chesterfield and Bath " (see Swift's
1 Works,' vol. xviii. p. 324). The first two verses
are : —
The Muses, quite jaded with rhyming,
To Molly Mogg bid a farewel,
But renew their sweet melody chyming,
To the name of dear Molly Lapel.
Bright Venus yet never saw bedded,
So perfect a beau and a belle,
As when Hervey the handsome was wedded
To the beautiful Molly La— 1.
The ballad contains sixteen verses.
F. 0. BIRKBECK TERRY.
These are the concluding lines of an epigram of
which the full text is : —
For Venus sure never saw bedded
So comely a beau and a belle,
As when Hervey the handsome was wedded
To the beautiful Molly Lepel.
It is quoted in G. E. 0. 's new peerage ; but not
having the book by me, I cannot remember if the
author is there given. H. J. B. CLEMENTS.
These lines are from " the most modest couplet
which can be gleaned from the parody of ' Molly
Mogg ' by Chesterfield and Pulteney " (Edin.
Rev., October, 1848, p. 430).
EDWARD H. MARSHALL, M.A.
Hastinge.
" DEAR KNOWS n (8th S. xi. 6). — This expression
is frequently in the mouths of ladies and other of
the old school in Durham. I used to think it was
" I) id knows " that they said.
J. T. F.
DUKE OF GLOUCESTER (8th S. x. 515 ; xi. 18).
— Prince William (Henry ?) commonly called, but
never actually created, Duke of Gloucester, the
only surviving son and heir apparent of Princess
(afterwards Queen) Anne, died 30 July, 1700, not
29. He was born 24 July, 1689, as MR. W. H.
CUMMINGS correctly states, and had, therefore, just
entered his twelfth year when he died. In 1696
he was only seven, instead of sixteen. C. H.
BULL AND BOAR (8th S. x. 355, 477).— Is it not
recorded of the township of Troutbeck, in the
parish of Applethwaite, Westmorland, that they
used to have three hundred bulls, three hundred
boars, and three hundred constables? The ex-
planation of this apparently abnormal state of
* See 'Walpole Correspondence,' ed. Cunningham,
ii. 405. Walpole, in writing to Geo. Montague, 16 Nov.,
1754, describes this bouquet-holder as a tin funnel
covered with green ribbon, which held water.
58
NOTES AND QUERIES.
S. XI. JAN. 16, '97.
affairs lies in the fact that the township is divided
into three hundreds, each of which had its own
special bull, boar, and constable. Q. V.
SIR JOHN JERVIS (7th S. ix. 48 ; 8th S. xi. 17).
— Sir John Jervis was the last holder of the office
of Chief Justice of Chester, and when it was
abolished in 1830 received as compensation an
annuity of 1,015?. 12s. See the recently issued
' History of the Ancient City of Chester,' by
George Lee Fenwick. He was member for the
city from 1835 to 1852. He was originally in the
army. In 1846 he was Attorney General, and
succeeded Lord Truro as Chief Justice of the
Common Pleas. He died suddenly at 47, Eaton
Square, on 1 November, 1856.
T. CANN HUGHES, M.A.
Lancaster.
This celebrated lawyer was a cousin of Lord St.
Vincent, being the second son of Mr. Thos. Jervia,
Q.C., sometime Counsel to the Admiralty and Chief
Justice of Chester. He was born in 1802, and
was for some years in the army before he was
called to the bar. He went the Oxford and Chester
circuits. He was M.P. for Chester 1832-50, and
became Attorney General in 1846. He married,
in 1824, Catherine, daughter of Mr. A. Mundell,
of Westminster. In 1850 he succeeded Lord
Truro as Chief Justice, and died in Eaton Square
1 Nov., 1856. For a full account of him see Dod's
'Parliamentary Companion,' 1850, and Hardwicke's
'Annual Biography and Obituary for 1857.'
E. WALFORD.
An excellent portrait of this judge may be seen
at Soughton Hall, near Northop, Flintshire, the
residence of John Eldon Bankes, Esq., his grand-
son on the mother's side.
GEORGE T. KENYON.
The portrait of this judge was painted by Henry
Weigall, and was published in ] 857.
ALGERNON GRAVES.
AUTHORS OF QUOTATIONS WANTED (8th S. x.
477).—
The lines, " Oh gentle spirit know from hence," &c.,
are from ' Sensibility, an Epistle to the Honourable Mrs.
Boscawen,' by Hannah More, 11. 293 to 306. The full
context is : —
Since trifles make the sum of human thing?,
And half our misery from our foibles springs;
Since life's best joys consist in peace and ease;
And though but few can serve, yet all may please ;
0 let th' ungentle spirit learn from hence,
A small unkindness is a great offence.
To spread large bounties, though we wish in vain,
Yet all may shun [not share] the guilt of giving pain :
To bless mankind with tides of flowing wealth,
With rank to grace them, or to crown with health,
Our little lot denies ; yet lib'ral still,
Heaven gives its counterpoise to every ill j
Nor let us murmur at our stinted powers,
When kindness, love, and concord may be ours.
J. B. FLEMING.
NOTES ON BOOKS, &o.
Records and Record Searching. By Walter Rye. Second
Edition. (G. Allen.)
THE prophecy made, 7th S. vi. 99, that the genealogist
and the topographer, for whom Mr. Walter Rye specially
writes, would not have long to wait for a second edition
of his ' Records and Record Searching ' has been ful-
filled, and an enlarged edition now sees the light. The
additions to the index are of special importance, aug-
menting by one-half that most useful and most im-
portant feature. Of his second, as of his first attempt
to aid the explorer in the British Museum and in the
Record Office, Mr. Rye speaks in terms of becoming
modesty, styling it an " omnium gatherum of references
and cross references, not only to the book itself, but of
entries contained in various other works on the Records,
&c." Such as it is, it has been a boon to very many
readers, and is, in its line, the simplest and most intel-
ligible guide in existence. A knowledge where to find
documents of certain classes is confined to the very few ;
and a man seeking to write the history of a family or a
parish is likely, besides wasting his own time by futile
inquiries in the wrong quarter?, to make himself a
nuisance to his better-informed friends. The recent
labours of Mr. Phillimore and Mr. Scargill-Bird have
done much to save labour and facilitate research. On
the whole, though it is not, and cannot be, complete,
Mr. Rye's volume is, in regard to its declared purpose,
the handiest and most serviceable we possess. Ita
scheme is less ambitious than that of Mr. Scargill-Bird'a
guide— official, in a sense — ' The Principal Classes of
Documents in the Public Record Office.' As a guide,
however, to the topographer and the genealogist it is not
less indispensable. Numerous correspondents, who in-
undate us with queries on these subjects, may be coun-
selled to furnish themselves with this reimpression of an
important work, which of late years has been not too
accessible.
The Oxford English Dictionary. Edited by Dr. Jamea
A. H. Murray. Disobst — Distrustful. (Oxford,
Clarendon Press.)
MANY words, the history of which, now first given, is of
highest interest are contained in the new part of ' The
Oxford English Dictionary.' Before glancing at one or
two of these it is worth while to state that the rate of
progress, with some difficulty attained, and that of effi-
ciency, observable from the first, are alike preserved.
The number of words recorded is almost double that in
the most ambitious of competitors, and the number of
illustrative quotations is 7,316, against 1,179 in the ' Cen-
tury Dictionary,' which in this regard runs it most
closely. The present part may claim to possess, in dis-
proportionableness, the longest word, according to the
number of letters, in the English language. Dispensation,
in theological use, indicating a religious order or system,
conceived as a stage in a progressive revelation, expressly
adapted to the needs of a particular nation or period of
time, takes its rise in the seventeenth century, about the
middle of which it appears. On the word there is a
note to the effect that it is " an extension of the patristic
use of the word as applied to the evangelical system
based on the Incarnation the patriarchial and Mosaic
' dispensations ' being conceived as prophetic of the
Christian, all being one in substance though differing in
form." The origin of this sense of the word is found
in the use in the New Testament and by patristic
writers of the Latin dispensatio in the sense of the
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Greek oiKovopia. In connexion with this word one will
naturally consider the verb dispense. The history of
this sense of the word, like that of distribution of the
predicate, is now first given. The application of dis-
position to a natural tendency or bent of the mind, espe-
cially in regard to moral or social qualities — as a man
of a good or cheerful disposition — is held to be possibly of
astrological origin, as we say of temperament that it is
jovial, mercurial, or saturnine. The ugly and caco-
phonous word disprobabilize is found thrice in Bentham,
but in no other writer. The first quotation for disseat—
unseat, from 'Macbeth,' "This push will cheere me
ever or diseate me now," is held, justly, to be doubtful ;
the opposition to "cheer "seems to require "disease,"
which is the reading of folios 2, 3, and 4. Much valu-
able information is supplied on disseisin, the privative
of seisin. The use of Latin dissaisina goes back to 1167.
Dissent, with a religious application or connexion, occurs
about 1535 ; the word dissenter, used to indicate one who
dissents in matters of religious belief, is nearly a century
later ; dissenter=non conformist, as a matter of reproach,
is heard of about 1680. Dissimulate, a solitary instance
of the use of which by Lord Bernera, in 1533, is given, is
rare before the end of the eighteenth century, and is not
in Johqson. Webster gives no instance before 1828.
Dissipated, in the sense of dissolute, occurs so early as
1744 ; dissipation, in a similar sense, is first encountered
in Cowper's ' Task,' 1784 ; the intransitive verb is not met
with in that sense until half a century later. In distaff,
the one old English word in " Dis " in the part, dis is
said to be apparently identical with the Low German
diasse, a bunch of flax on a distaff. Very curious is the
growth of distance, in its various significations, from th.e
Old French destance=<Hecor<l, quarrel. Another word
the history of which is interesting and curious is dis-
temper. For nonsense words, Gayton's * Festivous Notes
to " Don Quixote" ' seems principally responsible. No
instance earlier than Swift or Defoe is found of the use
of distinction as indicative of social rank. The valuable
essay on distribution, in regard to logic, is too long to be
dealt with in our columns, but will be studied with great
advantage. The next part will carry the letter D to
" Doom." The whole of D is far advanced.
The English Dialect Dictionary. Edited by Joseph
Wright, M.A., Ph.D. —Part II. Ballow — Blare.
(Frowde.)
Pari passu with * The Oxford English Dictionary '
proceeds 'The English Dialect Dictionary,' a work of
scarcely less value and importance to philologists. In
one sense the completion of the task which began the
later will contribute more directly to the convenience
of scholars than that of 'The Oxford Dictionary,'
English dictionaries which, if not complete and final,
are at least modern and of great utility, are at hand
and easily accessible. To [get at the sense of a dialect
word one has to turn to a dozen glossaries, with no
certainty of finding it after all. When found, even,
the use in one place may be different from that in
another. The progress of the present work is, accord-
ingly, contemplated with pleasure proportionate to the
magnitude of the task attempted. To take a few of the
words or phrases of which full explanations are given,
we find barley-break, allusions to which occur often in
Tudor literature. The illustrations to this are varied,
and the account how the game is played is not less
valuable for being already accessible (see " Barlebreak ")
in Nares. Elaborate illustration is supplied of the appli-
cation of the word beast throughout the United King-
dom to an animal of the ox kind, as opposed to sheep or
horses. Of the procesp, now obsolete, but surviving
within living memory, called barring -out a full account
is given. Much of the information is derived from
Brand; but nowhere else can it be so conveniently
studied. With regard to the word banshee, to which
attention is specially directed, it may be noted here,
though it is too late for mention in the ' Dictionary,'
that on the occasion of the late fatal slip of an Irish bog,
the wail of this Irish bogle, or fairy's wife, is supposed to*
have been heard. Bantling is said to be properly applied
to a child " begotten on a bench, and not in the marriage
bed." A capital history of barghest is given. Familiar
as we are with the use of the word, we have not heard
it used as a term of rebuke. The note is much longer
than that in * The Oxford English Dictionary.' Ghest ig,
of course, plain enough; the meaning of bar is left
conjectural. We shall be glad, when the ' Dictionary '
is more advanced, of the opportunity of comparing the
word with boggart and boggie-bo (Halliwell), more fre-
quently boggie-baw, both used in the same sense. Boggie-
law is said to a child who does or exhibits anything
disgusting. The editor draws attention to the great
disparity between A and B in dialect speech as compared
with that in literary English. Owing to the large
number of words beginning with A which contain Latin
or Greek prefixes, the difference in written English
between the two letters is not great. Words in A are,
indeed, in some dictionaries, more numerous than those
in B. In Webster's ' Dictionary ' A occupies 99 pages
and B 81. In ' The Oxford English Dictionary ' A takes
1,809 columns, and B 1,911. In ' The Dialect Dictionary,'
on the other hand, while A takes up 106 pages, B, so far
only as the word blare, extends to 182. Apart from the
question of the importance of the work being executed
for the first time, the ' Dictionary ' may be commended
as a source of entertainment. We have glanced through
its pages again and again, and find the book difficult to
quit.
English Minstrelsie. A National Monument of English
Song. By S. Baring-Gould. Vol. VI. (Edinburgh,
Jack.)
Two more volumes are all that remain to complete this
popular, handsome, and acceptable collection. The
songs given in the present volume include, among others
1 Begone dull Care,' « The Banks of Allan Water,' ' Gather
ye Rosebuds while ye may,' 'Hope told a flattering
Tale,' 'Long, long Ago,' and some spirited folk-songs.
Much very agreeable gossip is supplied concerning the
author and composer of the song first named and of its
fortunes. Not quite free from errors are the notes, but
they are more accurate than in previous volumes ;' and
surely Mr. Baring -Gould should scold somebody for
passing such a name as Persopolis. Portraits are given
of Dr. Samuel Arnold, Dr. Boyce, Thomas Haynes Bayly,
and Henry Purcell ; there is a facsimile of a signature
of Dr. Arne, a good sample of Purcell's musical nota-
tion, together with a shield of his arms, impaling those
of Petre of Torbrian, together with a picture of his
monument in Westminster Abbey, conveying the well-
known sentence that he " left this life, and is gone to
that blessed Place where only his Harmony can be
excelled." A mass of very curious and readable infor-
mation is supplied in Mr. Baring-Gould's introduction
and notes, and his work is sure to be popular. The airs,
in both notations, are still arranged by Mr. Fleetwood
Sheppard, Mr. F. W. Russell, and Mr, W. H. Hopkins.
Transcendental Magic. By Eliphas Levi. Translated
by Arthur Edward Waite. (Redway.)
THE followers of transcendental magic are a class to
themselves, concerning which the uninitiated know little
and— let it be said without malice or irreverence— care
less. We are ourselves of the uninitiate, ai.d wholly
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unfit to deal with "the sublime notion and high mys-
tery " with which this volume is concerned. Our duty
is fulfilled, accordingly, in announcing its appearance.
A few particulars communicated by Mr. Waite may,
however, be of some interest. Elipbas Levi Z*hed is a
pseudonym for Alphonse Louis Constant, of whose
* Dogme et Rituel de la Haute Magic ' the volume before
us is a rendering. Born in 1810 in bumble circum-
stances, the son of a shoemaker, Constant was educated
for the Cburcb, became a deacon, taking the vows of
celibacy, and was expelled from St. Sulpice for teaching
doctrines contrary to the Catholic Cburch. Becoming
acquainted with Alphonse Esquires, who is not quite
forgotten, though Mr. Waite supposes him to be so, he
was introduced by him to Ganneau, a distracted preacher
ofilluminism. Constant wrote, under Ganneau's influence,
1 The Gospel of Liberty,' for which he got six months'
imprisonment. He tben, in spite of his vows, married a
girl of sixteen, by whom he had two children, and who
subsequently deserted him. His enemies say that under
a new name he imposed on the Bishop of Eveux (should
doubtless be Evreux), preached, and administered the
sacraments — which in a deacon was illegal — until he
was unmasked. He issued a 'Dictionary of Christian
Literature ' and other works. In 1856, with ' Le Dogme
de la Haute Magie,' he began the series of books which
have rendered him a chief magi, until he has become, as
Mr. Waite says, "actually the spirit of modern thought,
forcing an answer for the times from the old oracles."
The oracles it seems, then, are not dumb. With all its
quaint and curious illustrations, his chief work ia now
translated, and there is, in addition, a portrait of the
author in his magician's robe. Concerning subjects such
as charms, the evil eye, and other matters the folk-lorist
may find some information. To grasp the full significance
of the teaching and the full glory of the secret imparted
requires the inner sense of the illuminati.
A Dictionary of Birds. By Alfred Newton, assisted by
Hans Gadow. Part IV. (Black.)
ORNITHOLOGISTS and students of natural history will be
glad to hail the completion of this valuable and important
work, the best in its class that has yet seen the light.
With the concluding part is issued the introduction and
the index, the latter, fortunately, ample. The aim of
the book, to compress into the smallest space all know-
ledge indispensable to the student of ornithology, is
accomplished. Apart from the information, exhaustive
in some respects, that is supplied by the work, which
extends to 1,200 pages, the introduction supplies a guide
to the voluminous literature of the subject. During the
last century an advanced school of ornithologists has
arisen, and the present position of the taxonomy of birds
is satisfactory. In influencing the conclusions the close
study of the South American fossils in the British Museum
and elsewhere has had an all-important influence. We
cannot, however, deal with matters purely scientific, and
can but announce the completion of a work with which,
during its rather slow progress, students have been
familiar.
The Romance of a King's Life, By J. J. Jusaerand.
(Fisher Unwin.)
ONK of the most earnest and erudite students of our
language, customs, and literature, M. Jusserand has
supplied noble books concerning * English Wayfaring
Life,' ' The English Novel in the Time of Shakespeare,'
&c., which are already regarded as standard. To these
one more is added in his romantic life of James I., which
has been translated from tiie French by M. li. and
enlarged by the author. That life, one of the most
brilliant and tragic in history, is well told and is illus-
trated by designs from early paintings and MSS. The
courtship and espousal of Jane Beaufort and the' whole
picturesque, romantic, and tragic story is admirably
told. When Shakspeare talked of "sad stories of the
death of kings," that of James I. must have been in his
mind. M. Jusserand, as many of our readers know dis-
putes Mr. Brown's theories as to the authorship of 'The
Kingia Quair.' In an appendix is much historical matter
of highest interest.
Raleghana. By T. N. Brushfield, M.D. (Privatelv
printed.)
Devonshire Briefs. Part II. Same author. (Privately
printed.)
DR. BRUSHFIELD has reprinted from the Transactions of
the Devonshire Association for the Advancement of
Science, Literature, and Art two of his valuable contri-
butions. Indefatigable in his pursuit and collection of
Devonshire antiquities, he has, in his ' Raleghana,' brought
together much matter not previously known concern-
ing the great Devonshire hero. This has been laid at
the service of the 'Diet. Nat. Biog.,' and, to some extent,
used in that work. The manner, however, in which
Dr. Brushfield exposes the Collier forgeries is masterly
and deserves to be studied at leisure. In his admirable
collection of ' Devonshire Briefs' Dr. Brushfield reprints
in facsimile the brief of William and Mary for the relief
of the inhabitants of East and West Teignmouth after
the descent of the French. Much other matter of
highest interest is also included.
THE REV. 0. W. TANCOCK has reprinted from the
Essex Review a few copies of his excellent paper on the
Old Parish Register Books of the Deanery of Chelmsford.
This will have the more interest to antiquaries, since it
gives a sort of specimen report of the work which the
Diocesan Committee, of which Mr. Tancock is the con-
vener, is doing. The importance of the task which Mr.
Tancock is undertaking is conceded, and we commend
his labours to the attention and imitation of our readers.
THE new number of the Journal of the Ex-Lilris
Society reproduces the book-plate of William, Duke of
Devonshire, and also the very quaint Oriental plate of
Sir Mountstuart E. Grant Duff, Governor of Madras in
1886. The latter is lent by Sir Arthur Vicars (Ulster)
and was executed at the School of Art in Madras. Mr.
W. Bolton writes on ' The Solace of the Book-plate.'
to
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as a guarantee of good faith.
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To secure insertion of communications correspondents
must observe the following rule. Let each note, query
or reply be written on a separate slip of paper, with the'
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LONDON, SATURDAY, JANUARY 23, 1897.
CONTENT S.— N° 265.
NOTES:— Home Tooke's Diary, 61 — British, 62 — Ghost-
names, 64— Aqueous Titles— Women as Churchwardens-
George Bickham — Nell Gwyn's Plate — Marlowe's 'Ed-
ward II.'— A Primitive Parish — Earls of Halifax, 65—
Pur-blind— Burns's Friend Nicol, 66.
QUERIES :— " Bowpifc "—Clementina J. Sobiesky Douglass,
66— Robert Daborn— Cave Underbill— Raleigh=Greene—
"Abraham's Bosom"— Relics, 67— Beaujoie — The Royal
Colleges— W. Butler— Pye— Col. Henry Martin— Scottish
Craftsmen— Serving Food to Weapons, 68— Carved Adders
on Pulpits, 69.
REPLIES :— Prime Minister, 69— The Grosvenor, East India-
man— Ysonde— Wedding Ceremony— J. Jones, 73—" Dis-
annul "—Duke of Gloucester— Thomas Bolas— The Will of
King Henry VI.— George Morland, 74— Edward II.— Gos-
forth, 75— Church or Chapel— Politician— Chinese Playing-
Cards— Nelson, 76— Wave Names— East India Company-
London Directories, 77— An Anomalous Parish— Christmas
Day— The Black Prince's Sword, 78.
NOTES ON BOOKS :— Moore's ' Studies in Dante '— Bewes's
' Church Briefs '— Axon's ' Bygone Sussex '—Wood's ' Quo-
tations ' — Lane's ' Cairo ' — ' Cathedral Churches of Canter-
bury and Salisbury' — Cassie's Kielland's 'Norse Tales' —
Quaritch's ' Contributions,' Part VIII.
Notices to Correspondents.
HORNE TOOKE'S DIARY.
(Continued from p. 22.)
Wednesday, June 4, 1794. The Bells are ringing for
the King's birthday. I get in this place between 7 &
8 hours reading & writing each day ; so that I do not
get any advantage in that respect by my confinement.
A Lock with great formality put on outer door.
Thursday, June 5. A man with a Pea-cart stands this
moment under my window drawn by an Ass : the Ass
began to bray : the master seized him by the snout &
began to belabour him unmercifully to stop his braying,
to the scandal of the private soldiers, who interfered
humanely with the man, to suffer his Ass to bray without
molestation & cruelty. These soldiers have one (as
patient and as industrious as the ass) in custody for
braying. A corporal and a Serjeant come into my room,
two of them every two hours and sometimes each hour,
besides two Warders in my room, a centinel at the door,
and another on the Staircase : if they kept out of room
& kept a thousand round it it would be less unpleasant:
for they chuae often to rush suddenly into my room;
which the other Warders, Burford, & Blower & Bouguet
& Pearson, used to prevent.
Friday, June 6. Kinghorn brought my keys, & some
brown paper from Privy Council; & told me that Mr.
Vaughan had been examined by Privy Council, & was
forbid to visit me any more till further orders; he said
Mr. Hayne was also forbid to visit Mr. Bonney [I did
not before know that Hayne did visit him]. Privy Council,
he said, permitted me newspapers and to walk upon the
Leads (2 Warders & a Centinel, bayonet fixed, &c.).
Phis day I had for the 1st time Chronicle, Post, Gazetteer,
World, Herald, Oracle, Times, True Briton, & two eveg
papers Courier, Star. I sent them to Warder, Bouguet,
for use of such prisoners as were allowed to read them,
Saturday, June 7, 1794. Corresponding Society's Ad "
vertisement in the Morning Post. The visiting officer of
the Guards asked me very politely if I had in my apart-
ments every thing I wanted ? Yes, sir, all & more than I
want by two Warders, two Centinels, and all the Bolts and
Bars. Two o'clock. Ross the Messenger tells me he, with
Higgins, has just brought Kyd to the Tower, Kyd is at
the Warder Lockit's. Sharp is still in custody at his
own house. Frost is on honour to return to the Privy
Council on Monday. Hull has given security to appear
the first day of term. Privy Council are to make a general
arrangement for all the Prisoners, that their friends may
have access to them, &c. Kyd agrees with Lockit aa
Joyce with Dixon eighteen pence for Dinner : they find
everything else for themselves.
Sunday, June 8, 1794. In last night's Courier is the
Act of ParU " To empower his Majesty (i. e., the Minis-
ter) to secure & detain (i.e., to rob, ruin & murder*)
such persons as his Majesty (•/. e., the Minister) shall
suspect (i. e.y pretend to suspect) are conspiring against
bis person & Government " (i. e., who are displeased with
the minister's measures, or to whom the minister is for
any reason, or misinformation, or mistake or caprice,
hostile).
Monday, June 9. I saw Joyce upon top of a distant
house leads. We bowed to each other. I saw Kyd upon
the leads, we bowed to each other. N.B. I understand
(by an accident) that Vaughan was prohibited from seeing
me any more, because he excused himself (as Counsel for
four of the prisoners) from being examined by Privy
Council. A basket from Wimbledon from my Gardener.
It must not be opened till Kinghorn comes, who will read
my girl's letter; & then, if he approves the contents, will
graciously communicate them to me : after which he will
perhaps permit me to send some strawberries to Mr.
Bonney. At nine o'clock this morning, two new Warders
came, Bateman & Jackson. I understand their Cha-
racters & Disposition ; & am not at all pleased to be
in their hands. Pazianza 1 My custody cannot easily
be closer though it may be made more disagreeable by
their presence & conduct.
I wrote to Mr. Fawkener, Clerk of Privy Council.
Receive permission for Dr. Pearson, my physician, &
Mr. Clive my surgeon to attend me.
N.B. Privy Council wanted Vaughan to prove my
handwriting (or what they supposed so) in some altera-
tions or amendments in some resolutions of Constit.
Society. He refused to be examined on the subject.
They told him that as he was my intimate friend he was
wrong to refuse ; it might cause me to be confined the
longer.
The first letter to Fawkener was to request per-
mission for the writer's physician and surgeon to
see him. He asks that their attendance " may be
made convenient to themselves ; because neither
counsel, nor physicians, nor surgeons have ever
taken fees from me."
Tuesday, June 10, 1794. I read in the Times " the
second report of the Secret Committee of the House of
Lords." i immediately wrote the following letter to Mr.
Fawkener & sent it off before Dinner, though the news-
paper did not come to me this day till eleven o'clock ;
and the Times was the 8th paper I read.
* I call, it murder, because indefinite and arbitrary im-
prisonment, Close Custody (such as I experience) with
all its circumstances of time & place & manner at the will
of a malicious minister, may be certain death by the slow
torture of disease.
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Then follows a copy of the letter, wherein Tooke
states that he had only just learnt from the re-
port what sort of a picture their lordships had
drawn of him in their imagination and exhibited
of him to the world ; that such suspicions were
too horrid for him to remain under a moment in
voluntary silence ; and that he was now willing and
anxious to be examined.
Friday, June 13, 1794. I understand that Mr. John
Williams (thro' the interest of Gen1 or Col. Archer, his
•wife's father or brother) has been admitted to bail £500.
The difficulty about him arose from his refusing to swear
that some paper which they showed him was the hand-
writing of J. Home Tooke. They asked, " Had he ever
seen me write. He had. Was this of my handwriting.
He could not say it was." I understand also that Mar-
tin's clerk after repeated examinations is expected to
be committed to Newgate this day because he persisted
in declaring "that he knows nothing of his master's
affairs or actions, but his business as an Attorney, his
master having never employed him nor discoursed with
him about anything else." N.B. About 7 o'clock in the
evening, the Warder Dixon and Mr. Kyd were walking
upon the Leads (about the size of my room) under my
window. I was standing at the. open window (for it was
very hot) taking snuff. The warder asked me for some
snuff. I put a little in a piece of coarse paper and threw
it to him. He thanked me, and said, he hoped he
should one day drink a glass of wine with me, when I
was out of the Tower. I answered that I should drink
it with him with pleasure : for I supposed he was a man
about my own age. He said, no. He was ten years
younger. How sol said I. Why, what age are you?
He said this day was his Birthday and he was this day
exactly fifty. Oh ! answered I, if this is your birthday,
I will certainly drink a glass of wine to your health. I
opened a bottle, filled the glass, showed it at the window,
and drank to his health. I then said, tho' we are at a
distance from each other, we may still drink together ;
for if I might I could let down the bottle with a string.
He said, Aye, do so. I tied a string to the neck of
the bottle, and let it down. He got a glass, filled it, and
drank to my health. I drew the bottle back. But I
never exchanged a single word with Mr. Eyd. This was
done openly, in sight of the opposite centinel. A great
piece of work has been made of this. " Seldom that the
steel'd Jayler is the Friend of Man." All the way
through well exemplified in the Tower.
Saturday, June 14. At three o'clock Einghorn came to
me on the Leads, called the Warder, Jackson, and
blamed him for suffering me to talk to Mr. Kyd : he said
the Adjutant Brice, had made a Report to the Governour.
I told Kinghorn the fact as it passed. N.B, This Ad-
jutant Brice, I am told, went a day or two ago to Mr.
Joyce's room and insulted him and abused Lord Stanhope
to him. This is the son of Mr. Brice in Newman Street,
who married lately Miss , and whom I have seen at
Mr. Gahagan's, and with whose sisters my girls were
intimate. N.B. Jackson proposed that I should not go
near my window. Bateman on this hot day, shut the
window; but I denied his authority & opened it.
Sunday, June 15. I received this morning by the
Gaoler the following note, OPEN (all the other notes
from Mr. Fawkener were sealed).
Council Office, Whitehall,
14 June, 1794.
SIR,— I duly received your letter dated Tower June 10,
1794, and having taken the earliest opportunity of laying
the same before the Lords of his Majesty's most honour-
able Privy Council, I am to acquaint you that I have
nothing in command from their Lordships on the subject
thereof.
I am, Sir, your most obedient humble Servant,
W. FAWKENER.
Mr. John Home Tooke, Clerk.
G. J. W.
(To le continued.}
BRITISH
(Concluded from p. 5.)
We frequently use the word English in the most
extended meaning. Thus Mr. F. Boase has called
his dictionary of persons who have died since 1850
' Modern English Biography/ though he includes
not only English — in fact, they would only give a
portion of the names — but Scots, Irish, and every
other nationality if identified with the British
Empire — thus using the word in a much larger
sense than ever British has been used.
Another person who uses the word English is
the editor of one of our most popular journals, To-
Day. In the issue of 19 Sept., 1896, p. 211,
the author of ' Three Men in a Boat ; is apparently
answering some one who has been taking him to
task for using the word English, and with a meek-
ness which even Montmorency would never have
shown, and most unusual in an editor, instead of
holding out and showing that he was right, he gives
his case away without the least reflection. He
says to his correspondent, " You are quite right,"
and apologetically adds, " When I think of it I
say British in preference to the word English.
But journalism is generally written red-hot, and
the latter word to an Englishman generally comes
more pat to the tongue."
I should have answered, " You are quite wrong.
English is by far the better word. According to
all the authorities, British only includes England,
Scotland, and Wales. Why should the Irish be
left out? They speak the English, and not the
British language ; they fight in the British army ;
they go to the English bar ; and they distinguish
themselves in the Parliament held in England,
and thus do honour to the English nation. I here
use English as including the whole peoples under
the sovereignty of Queen Victoria."
It would seem that some of our writers have not
given much heed to this question. For example,
when Mr. W. Prideaux Courtney, a couple of
years ago, published his delightful volume entitled
' English Whist/ it never occurred to him that he
ought to cater for Scotch readers in his title as
well as in the book, or no doubt he would have
called it * British Whist.' Many Scotsmen are
mentioned in it, though the book requires to be
read through to find out where, as there is only an
index of proper names.* If Mr. Courtney wanted
* I consider the omission of subjects most unfortunate.
An Irishman or an American, after looking at the index,
would throw the book on one Bide as containing nothing
XI, JAN. 23, '97.J
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63
to be quite certain of including Irish, he must have
called it * British and Irish Whist.' Should not
our English dictionaries be renamed to include all
three countries ?
The curious thing is that, when we do come
across a book with British in the title, it is, from
the view I am taking, quite wrong — for example,
' The British Citizen,' published in London by Mr.
J. E. Thorold Rogers, M.P., 1885. For the in-
formation of readers abroad, I may say that Mr.
Rogers is not a Scotsman, as his title would lead
one to suppose. He tells us that he was " a youth
in a Hampshire village sixty years ago " (p. 139).
His title, however, is almost a fraud, quite
innocently and unintentionally, of course, but it
might induce a Scotsman to buy it, thinking that
in it he would read a good deal about his own
country.
When I say that the pride of race runs so high
in Scotland that our politicians or visitors are
immediately corrected if they talk about the
English (they must always say British), the dis-
gust of a Scotsman on reading 'The British Citizen'
can be imagined on finding that it is all about the
English.
Mr. Rogers begins by saying, " It is my purpose
to point out how it has been that the modern
Englishman has," &c., and so he goes on. It is
all England and the English ; there is nothing to
justify British in the title, for it would be absurd
to say that it is justified by the information (p. 136)
that Adam Smith was a Scotchman (sic), who was
educated for nearly seven years at Balliol College,
Oxford, or by chapter xxiii. on the higher educa-
tion in England, where occurs one short paragraph
as to education in Scotland.
Probably Mr. Rogers originally called it ' The
English Citizen/ and then found that there was
already an " English Citizen Series," so in a weak
moment he adopted British. If so, the altered
title does not suit the text.
The above allusions are all I can discover in a
cursory perusal ; for, though issued by the Society
for Promoting Christian Knowledge, ' The British
Citizen ' has no index, and is stuck together with
wire, which has rusted and spoiled the pages where
the abomination is placed.*
This " remarkably clever " book was reviewed in
the Athenceum of 21 Nov. , 1885, p. 667, without
about their countrymen. They would be wrong;
numerous are the allusions to and anecdotes of all three.
Mem. — Never buy books without indexes and stuck
together with wire. This reflection reminds me of
another, which may be useful to careful readers. I saw
it in an American periodical called Puck, whose office is
close to that of « N. & Q.,' and I quote it, knowing that
neighbours like to be friendly to one another ; at the same
time I fear it will be no use for Puck to try to borrow
a volume of ' N. & Q.' of his neighbour. It is : " Never
make lead-pencil comments in a borrowed book, the owner
may rub them out— use ink. "
the reviewer detecting the deceit ; but the indexer
was alert ; he declined to index it under " British,"
though it is apparent that he has no particular
spite against that name, as he indexes " British
Association."
There was probably at some period in English
history a doubt whether men belonging to various
counties were Englishmen ; at least, the doubt is
suggested by the following incident, the relation of
which was overheard, some thirty years ago, at a
Cornish inn. A young man who had just returned
from the remote districts of America was telling
a small crowd of admiring listeners the incidents of
an encounter which he and his comrades of all
nationalities had with the police. After a severe
struggle they were all captured except one little
man. He was a " wrastler," as they say in the
West of England, and each policeman as he
approached the little fellow was thrown over his
back. "They could not take him anyhow," said
the narrator, and " he was an Englishman " ! But
at that moment, as the thought struck him, he had
doubts on that point, and added, " Leastways, he
was a Cornishman."
It will be recollected that Cornwall was in-
stanced to show the gross want of fairness of the
Union of 1707, as that one county " sent up as
many members, one excepted, as the number
allotted for the whole of Scotland" (Knight's
4 Pictorial History of England,' vol. iv. p. 188).
If we give up the delightful word "English,"
I fancy the Americans will not be long appro-
priating it. Lately at an hotel I heard an Ame-
rican lady telling an English lady that she (the
American) was English, and that the English lady
was really British ; but the English lady would
not have it, she stuck to her colours like a man
(what an example for the editor of To-Day), and
said that she was a native of England and was
English, and that nobody who was not born in
the dominions of Queen Victoria could be
English.
Now, then, at last, we have got to a week-day,
and can see what our great authorities say on this
subject. First, let us take the latest and greatest
of all, the ' Oxford English Dictionary,' a master-
piece it is difficult even to think of without a
feeling of pride, and which, though, like a little
dog looking up at the monster St. Bernard, I occa-
sionally try to bark at, I nevertheless regard with
awe, remembering, as the Editor of ' N. & Q.1
pictorially puts it, " that not much information ia
to be gleaned when the harvest waggons of the
' Dictionary ' have carried off their golden load "
(8» S. x. 327) :—
"British, of or belonging to Great Britain or its
inhabitants. From the time of Henry VIII. frequently
used to include English and Scotch, in general use in
this sense from the acession of James I. and in seven-
teenth century, often opposed to Irish : legally adopted
at the Union in 1707."
NOTES AND QUERIES. [8«s.xi. JAN. 23/97.
Then we have all sorts of most useful instances
in which British is used ; that popular article of
commerce "British gum" is cut very short, it is
"a commercial name of dextrin."
Poor old Ireland is left out in the cold, although
her population is larger than that of Scotland,
and in proportion she is more largely represented
in the House of Commons than England, Wales,
or Scotland, or, to put it differently, than any of
the countries forming that part of the empire we
call British.
Dr. Murray thinks Britisher originated with
Americans in their War of Independence.
The * Century Dictionary ' appears to me to have
copied Webster ; but in the latter " British gum "
is more, in fact most fully described. By this
word British, printed in the * Century * with a
capital B, an ignorant person or a foreigner is
enabled at once to see if a small letter or capital
must be used. All words not requiring capitals
are printed without, thus avoiding useless and
confusing capitals. I should have thought, how-
ever, that " british gum " might be printed without
a capital B — it would be in French and German.
The ' Century ' says : —
"British^ of or pertaining to Great Britain, or, in the
widest sense, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and
Ireland or its inhabitants."
"Britisher, a British subject or citizen in any part of
the world, but more particularly a native or inhabitant
of Great Britain, especially of England ; now chiefly
colloquial or humorous."
There can be little doubt that this definition of
British is in accordance with the popular idea.
' The Financial Reform Almanack,' 1896, in-
cludes not only Ireland, but Guernsey, Jersey,
and Alderney in the term British, without the
slightest suspicion. But I feel that I have only
touched the fringe of this subject. Every new
book and new place suggests something more.
For example, I have just been reading Steedman's
'Swimming,' published at Melbourne in 1867.
He writes all the way through his book of the
' English "—that is, I presume, Australians (?) who
are English as well as Australians ; but if some
people had their way, Steedman should have
written using the inferior term British, as no
doubt the population is made up of all English-
speaking peoples.
Again, I go to the Portsmouth Museum ; the
first object that attracts my attention is one of
those exquisite ship models on loan from the South
Kensington Museum. The label is "English
ine-of-battle ship, 1780-1790.* This ship is, or
was, no doubt, more truly English than she would
be in the present day, as she was built, in all
probability, entirely at home, most likely at Dept-
ford,
I have tried my hand at a definition for the
future dictionary maker : —
British, a native of England, Scotland, or
Wales, but not of Ireland until the end of the
nineteenth century, when, according to an Ame-
rican dictionary, the word began to have a more
extended meaning, and included the Irish, though
formerly used as opposed to them.
Thus British became applicable in the eyes of
foreigners to all these countries, but without any
lawful or legal authority of the British themselves.
Britisher, a word at one time used in ridicule,
but finally adopted as a convenient designation by
the British themselves.
Let me say I make no scientific pretensions.
My simple contention is that, as an ordinary
inquirer, I think I have a right to expect an exact
definition of a word in the books of reference
without having recourse to a great library ; but I
think I show that in this case both resources fail.
EALPH THOMAS.
Clifford's Inn.
GHOST-NAMES. — Those accustomed to scrutinize
the inscriptions on tombstones not infrequently
meet with Christian names misspelt, and some-
times with names which appear to have been
invented by the sepulchral masons. Recently I
made a note of the name Utakeah Smith, in the
churchyard of Mundham, near Loddon, in Norfolk.
This lady died in July, 1890, and I was moved to
ask the vicar for the history of her strange name.
The vicar, the Rev. C. H. Hicks, kindly wrote as
follows : —
"The Christian name has never been properly ac-
counted for, except that ' it goes in the family.' When,
some years ago, I baptized a granddaughter of the said
Mrs. Smith, the nearest approach to the feminine of
ESrv^of seemed to be the idea, spelt EutyJcia, with
stress on the letter i. Whence the wonderful ' Utakeah '
I know not, unless from the stonemason."
Does not this case tend to show that some of
the oddities of nomenclature we come across now
and then are inventions or perversions of illiterate
masons ? I often see the name Georgiana spelt
in abnormal fashions on gravestones, Georgeanner,
Georgeanna, &c. JAMES HOOPER.
Norwich.
' This model is only labelled as a representative one ;
but she seems to me to be clearly identifiable— if, indeed'
the South Kensington Museum experts do not know her
name— from the carefully executed figure-head of a
Roman (1) warrior with drawn sword. As I find no
number (except 09 on the case), for the sake of identifi-
cation, 1 may say that the port anchor is on deck, but
[In the case of Migs Bellamy, Georgiana was converted
into George Anne, the name by which she was always
known.
the two starboard anchors are over the bow. The model
is painted brown, the colour that prevailed before Lord
Nelson introduced the ugly style of black with white
lines. The ships of the present day — take the last, the
Powerful — are even more hideous, being painted all
black, like hearses.
8th S. Xl. JAN. 23, '97.]
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AQUEOUS TITLES. — Most of the existing and
extinct titles in the English, Scotch, and Irish peer-
ages in that of Great Britain are very naturally
territorial, but a few are taken from rivers. Such
are those of Douro, Clyde, Boyne, Waveney,
Derwent, Derwentwater, Medway. It may be
added that the first title conferred on Lord Nelson
was that of Baron Nelson of the Nile.
E. WALFORD.
Ventnor.
WOMEN AS CHURCHWARDENS. — At Kilmington
Church, Devon, an old series of parish accounts is
extant, which may be worth a closer examination
than I have been able to give them. A curious
item (1558) is " payd for rnakyng of inviatory of
the church goodes, 3s. 4d.," succeeded by another,
"payd for carry eng of the inviatory to Exetore."
I was surprised by the frequency with which one
of the holders of the " wardenshyp " is a female.
In 1560, we have Joane Banke ; 1569, Elizabeth
Grendfeld ; 1570, Elizabeth Norrys ; 1574, Bryget
Dare ; 1578, Agnes Dunynges ; 1581, Frances
Banckes. EDWARD SMITH.
GEORGE BICKHAM, THE ELDER, WRITING-
MASTER AND ENGRAVER. — An entry in the Lon-
don Chronicle, 4-6 July, 1771, p. 19, records the
death, 3 July, 1771, at his house in Kew Lane, of
Mr. George Bickham, engraver, thus differencing
the statement appearing in 'Diet. Nat. Biog.,'
vol. v. p. 8, that he died in 1769.
DANIEL HIPWELL.
NELL GWYN'S PLATE.— The fondness of Nell
Gwyn for silver plate is well known, and at p. 167
of Cunningham and Wheatley's 'Story of Nell
Gwyn ' will be found the copy of a silversmith's
bill, containing the specification of a silver bed-
stead, which in magnificence must have rivalled
those that I have seen in the palaces of Indian
Maharajas, and charges for making various articles
of silver, amounting in the aggregate to 1,135Z. 3s. Id.
As ' N. & Q.' has always been the principal reposi-
tory for facts connected with the fair Nelly, I
venture to transcribe the following advertisement,
which has been copied into an interesting paper in
the current number of Middlesex and Hertfordshire
Notes and Queries, by Mr. F. G. Hilton Price,
Dir.S.A., on 'The Signs of the Old Houses in the
Strand in the Seventeenth and Eighteenth Cen-
turies ' : —
'The following notice appeared in the London Gazette,
3 Jan., 1677/8 : ' All goldsmiths and others to whom our
silver plate may be sold, marked with the cipher E.G.,
flourished, weighing about 18 ounces, are desired to
apprehend the bearer thereof, till they give notice to
Mr. Robert Johnson in Heathcock Alley, Strand, over
against Durham Yard, or to Mrs. Gwin's porter in the
Pell Mell, by whom they shall be rewarded.' "
Kingsland, Shrewsbury.
W. F. PRIDEAUX.
MARLOWE'S ' EDWARD II. ' — In the handy little
edition of this play recently published in the
" Temple Dramatists " series, the editor, Mr.
A. W. Verity, says : " Of the copy of the quarto
of 1594 in the royal library at Cassel no collation
(I believe) has been published." It may be worth
while to point out (as Mr. Bullen does not mention
it) that in the NewShakspere Society's Transactions
for 1875-6, pt. ii. (Appendix vi.), there is given a
collation by Dr. Rudolph Gene"e of this unique copy
of the 1594 quarto with Dyce'a text of 1850. As Dr.
Furnivall remarks in a foot-note, most of the differ-
ences are of no importance whatever. A. G. C.
A PRIMITIVE PARISH. — The cutting accompany-
ing this may be worth a corner in * N. & Q.' It
is from the Daily Telegraph of 31 Nov., 1896 :—
"At a Local Government inquiry, yesterday, at Heath
Charnock, Lancashire, into a proposal to borrow 600£.
to build a parish hall, it was stated that, although there
was a population of 1,100 and a rateable value of 8.000Z.,
there was neither church, chapel, nor school in the
parish, the only public 'edifice' being a pillar letter-box.
The inspector said it was the funniest thing he had ever
heard of."
B. H. L.
EARLS OF HALIFAX. — It is noteworthy the
confusion which sometimes results when two partly
contemporary notabilities are given at different
times the same title. Thus, in the new (1895)
edition of Dr. Cobham Brewer's 'Dictionary of
Phrase and Fable,' we are told, under " Trimmer,"
that " Charles Montagu, Earl of Halifax, adopted
the term in the reign of Charles II. to signify that
he was neither an extreme Whig nor an extreme
Tory." The Halifax who accepted and adopted
the epithet " trimmer " was not Charles Montague
(as his name is more frequently, though perhaps
less correctly, spelt), but George Savile, who was
created Earl of Halifax in 1679, and Marquis in
1682. He died in 1695, and the title became
extinct on the death of his son in 1700. The same
year Charles Montague was raised to the peerage
as Baron Halifax, and be was created Earl of
Halifax on the accession of George I. in 1714, but
held that title for less than a year, as he died
early in 1715. It is somewhat remarkable that
there is no account of him in the ' Penny Cyclo-
paedia,' though it gives a short biography of Sir
George Savile, afterwards Earl and then Marquis
of Halifax. In the eleventh volume (recently
published) of the English Historical Review there
is an interesting article, by Mr. Foxcroft, on ' The
Works of George Savile, first Marquis of Halifax,'
in which it is maintained that the celebrated
pamphlet Character of a Trimmer' (which was
first printed in 1688, under the name of Sir William
Coventry) was written in 1684, and primarily in-
tended for the eye of the king (Charles II.), its
object being defeated by the death of that monarch
in the following year. The word " trimmer " had
66
NOTES AND QUERIES. [*> a XI.JA*. 23, w.
been used in an opprobrious sense for a political
timeserver ; but by an ingenious use of its etymo-
logical signification, Halifax turned it into a badge
of distinction ; for the original sense of to trim,
as in "trimming a boat," is " to make firm or
steady."
W. T. LYNN.
PUR-BLIND. — Kluge, generally so cautious an
etymologizer, has an extraordinary note on this
word, under the article " Star," in his Etymo-
logical Dictionary.' He asserts that it is the
A. -Sax. pur-blind, and that the first component is
A.-Sax. pur, a bittern. He then compares Gr.
y \a-6i<wfJLOi, from y\av£ , an owl. From all which
he infers that Ger. star, cataract of the eye, may
be connected with star, the starling ! On this I
remark that neither pur nor pur-blind is to be
found in Ettmuller or Bosworth ; that "blind as
a bittern, '; would not in any case give a proper
sense, that bird not being proverbially defective in
eight; and that yAavKw/^a means "greyishness"
of the diseased eye, and not " owlishness." " Pur-
blind," formerly written pore-blinde, poor-blinde,
pure-blynde (Wyclif), seems to have originally been
pure blind ( = Lat. pure ccecus), absolutely blind,
from which the modern signification has drifted
away. A. SMYTHE PALMER.
South Woodford.
BURNS'S FRIEND NICOL. — It is singular that
R. L. Stevenson, whose elaborate precision is so
much emphasized, should write of Burns's friend
and boon companion as "Willie Nichol "
(' Familiar Studies of Men and Books/ second
ed., p. 73). No doubt Willie's surname, which is
Nicol, is not so familiar to his successors as it
would be to many of his contemporaries, but that
is no reason why its proper form should not be
given when occasion calls for it. Whatever may
be the fate of this personage as Nicol — a teacher
in Edinburgh and one of the preceptors of Sir
Walter Scott— he will live on to all time as
'Willie," for it was he that brewed the most
famous "peck o' maut" of which the world has
ever heard, and it was under the auspices of his
household gods— away in a country retreat, afar
from pedagogic cares— that "Rob and Allan cam
to see." The " maut " of inspiring quality was
Nicol's, and, writes Burns, "the air is Masterton's
[Allan Masterton's, to wit], the song mine/' When
the tourist, going on from Moflat to the hostel of
Tibbie Shiels on St. Mary's Loch, is told that at
one point on the way he passes " Willie's Mill," it
may be worth his while to note that this was the
residence of the friend whom Burns calls "Mr.
William Nicol, of the High School, Edinburgh."
At this dwelling, in the poet's words, there was
"such a joyous meeting that Masterton and I
agreed, each in our own way, that we should cele-
brate the business." THOMAS BAYNE.
Helensburgh, N.B.
We must request correspondents desiring information
on family matters of only private interest to affix their
names and addresses to their queries, in order that the
answers may be addressed to them direct.
"BowPiT."— It is said that the phrase "the
rain is bowpit " is in colloquial use in Berkshire*
The rain is so characterized when the wind comes
from the north-east, portending a continuance of
wet weather for twenty-four hours* I have only
one piece of evidence for the phrase. Can any of
your readers supply corroborative testimony ?
THE EDITOR OF THE
'ENGLISH DIALECT DICTIONARY.*
Clarendon Press, Oxford.
CLEMENTINA JOHANNES SOBIESKY DOUGLASS.
— Can any of your numerous correspondents inter-
ested in the history of Prince Charles Edward
Stewart, the Young Pretender, throw any light on
the following somewhat curious little history ? In
a very remote valley at the foot of Lake Winder-
mere lies a little village called Finsthwaite, and in its
church register of burials there occurs the following
entry : " Buried Clementina Johannes Sobiesky
Douglass, of Waterside, spinster, May the 16th
day, 1771." Now Clementina Sobiesky was, as
every one knows, the name of the first Pretender's
wife, and Prince Charlie's mother. Douglas was
the name he himself always adopted when travel-
ling incognito. Who, then, was this mysterious
lady, with at least two strange coincidences in
her name ? The rest of her story is traditional,
except in one point. The proverbial oldest in-
habitants remember their fore-elders always speak-
ing of her as " the Princess," and that she as a
young woman came, somewhere about 1745, with
two servants, and resided in extreme privacy as a
sort of lodger at this lonely Waterside farm, which
has, however, in former days boasted more im-
portance as a residence than it possesses at present.
In 1771 she apparently died, and then comes
another curious little incident, half tradition and
half fact, for it is said shortly after her death a
stranger came and planted on her grave a soli-
tary Scotch thistle. The tale is traditional, but
the fact remains that Finsthwaite Churchyard
bristles with Scotch thistles, and the particular
sort of thistle does not grow in the neighbourhood.
Prince Charlie was in Kendal, some nine miles from
Finsthwaite, on 22 Nov., 1745, and stayed over
Sunday the 24th, accompanied by three ladies, one
of whom was " the Lady Ogylvie." Could the
mysterious lady of Finsthwaite have been one of
them ? Was she his sister (though I never knew that
he had one)? One other tiny link exists in the
neighbourhood, in the shape of a medal with a head
of James, the old Pretender, on it. It is believed
to have been given by Clementina Jobanne
8". 8. XI. JAN. 23, '97.] NOTES AND QUERIES.
67
Sobiesky to the fore-elders of the family who now
possess it. I shall be very glad if any light can
be thrown on the story by means of your excellent
columns. At least it is a collection of curious coin-
cidences ; at most it may refer to a forgotten piece
of Stewart history. Nothing in the way of romance
could surprise one in connexion with that romantic
name. A. M. WAKBFIBLD.
Nutwood, Grange-overrSands.
ROBERT DABORN. — I shall be obliged to any
reader of ' N. & Q.' who can give me particulars
concerning R. Daborn. I am acquainted with
what is contained about him in the ' Memoirs of
Alleyn.' Has his play ' The Poor Man's Comfort '
(1655) ever been reissued in the course of the
present century ? To be of use replies should be
early. A. E. H. SWABN.
Alraeloo.
[See Mr. Bullen's memoir in f Diet, Nat. Biog.'
CAVE UNDERBILL. (See 7tb S. x. 206, 276.)—
At the earlier reference MR. D. HIPWELL gives
the date of the actor's birth as 17 March, 1633.
Can he or any other inform me if that date is
according to the legal year 1633/4, which would
make it 1634? URBAN.
RALEIGH =; GREENE. — According to the 'Visita-
tion of Warwickshire' (Harl. xii. 77), William
Raleigh, son of Johanne, of Thornborow (Farn-
borough), married Elizabeth, daughter of Sir
Thomas Green. When and where was she born,
when and where married, and who were her
parents? Baker's ' Hist, and Antiq. of Northamp-
tonshire ' (vol. i. p. 32) shows a Sir Thomas Greene,
cut. eighteen 5 Henry V., died 36 Henry VI, of
Boughton and Greene's Norton, who had wife
Philippa Ferrers, but only their oldest son is given.
Were Sir Thomas and Philippa the parents of the
said Elizabeth Greene ? B. COWELL.
Peoria, Ilia., U.S.
'ABRAHAM'S BOSOM." — Whence came the idea
(evidently existing in the days of Christ) that
faithful Jews at death were received into the
boaom of Abraham? Was it derived from the
Talmud or from Midrash ? R. E. C.
Cheltenham.
RELICS. — The other day I came across a small
hoard of relicp, consisting of a pincushion, a pair
of baby's mittens, a book-plate, and a small hand-
painted portrait. These had been treasured by
a local family and handed down from one to
another since the time of the early Georges.
Nobody knew exactly to whom they belonged
originally, but they carried with them evidences
of some historic worth, and that is why I make
'note of them.
1. The pincushion had attached to it a sus-
pender, by which it must have been hung to a
lady's girdle and so worn like a chatelaine. The
suspender and pincushion were covered with a
pattern and device woven — not worked — in silk,
evidently on a striped-tape warp of double linen
yarn, warp and weft being of five colours — red,
yellow, green, blue, and grey ; the pattern, in
addition to the stripe, being a small plaid, remind-
ing one of a Scotch plaid. The device reads as
follows : " God bless P.O. and down with the
rump." The style of the letters would indicate
the period of the Scotch rebellion, 1745, and sup-
posing "P.C." to mean Prince Charlie, we have
here a treasonable relic of that important crisip,
worn by some Manchester or Oldham lady who
was a Jacobite. It is well known to this day
how popular " the yellow-haired laddie" was with
the Lancashire ladies; but this is the first specimen
I have seen of the above sentiment being sported
as an article of personal attire, and I should like
to know something more of its origin and history.
If the date be right (1745) the texture could not
have been woven on a Jacquard loom. It must
have been done on one of the old u draw-boy
looms," so called because a boy was engaged by
the side of the loom to draw the cords which
worked the heddles ; if so, not only was the weav-
ing done on a hand loom worked by two persons,
but the whole of the material must have been
spun by hand. It would be interesting to know
where such an industry flourished at that time.
I question whether it would have been in Eng-
land. Such a production from English looms
would surely have been looked on as evidence of
rank treason; besides, the Jacobite organization
could hardly have been strong enough in England
to have commanded commercial or industrial con-
fidence sufficient to produce it as an article of
commerce. Had it been worked with the needle
the case would have been altogether different. My
theory is that it was produced in France and
found its way into Scotland, hence the plaid
pattern, and thence was brought to Manchester as
a present to some friendly lady Jacobite.
2. The baby's mittens, made of fine muslin
with a leno thread and pattern worked by hand
in the muslin, must have been hand spun and
hand woven. The count of the muslin is twenty-
one square, and both warp and weft are very level.
The Swiss and also the Dutch are said to have
been very clever at this kind of work, and pos-
sibly these mittens found their way here from some
continental source.
3. The book-plate is of no particular signi-
ficance.
4. The portrait of a gentleman m full-bottomed
wig, judging from its style, is said to be of the
period of George II., which is probably the period
of the pincushion and mittens.
Could you throw any light on the origin of the
pincushion? Judging from R. L. Stevenson a
68
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* Catriona,' there was a colony of French weavers
in Scotland at the period named (pp. 27, 28), as
will appear from the following : —
" My way lay over Mouter's Hill and through an end
of a clachan on the braeside among fields. There was a
whirr of looms in it went from house to house, bees
hummed in the garden, the neighbours that I saw at the
doorsteps talked in a strange tongue, and I found out
later that this was Picardy, a village where the French
weavers wrought for the Linen Company."
Would these French weavers be likely to have
made the pincushion ? SAM. ANDIIEW.
Hey Lees, Oldham.
BEAUJOIE FAMILY. — Can any of your corre-
spondents inform me if the above name is borne
by any member of the French aristocracy, and what
title? F. CARR.
THE ROYAL COLLEGES.— At the annual West-
minster School Election dinner one of the toasts
is " The Three Royal Colleges." Which be they ?
Some say Westminster, Christ Church, Trinity —
an arrangement which suits this particular occa-
sion very well. But others suggest Winchester,
Eton, Westminster ; while others, again, find a
place for King's College, Cambridge. Can any of
your readers cite an authority which shall determine
the question ? ARTHUR GAYE,
View Point, Baling Common, W.
WM. BUTLER, SERJEANT-AT-ARMS TO HENRY
VIII. — Can any reader furnish me with in-
formation regarding William Boteler, Buttler, or
Butler, Serjeant-at-Arms to Henry VIII. ; also,
as to his wife Elizabeth ? They resided at a
house in Church Row, Fulham.
CHAS. JAS. FERET.
49, Edith Road, West Kensington, W.
PrE FAMILY OP KILPECK. — What is known as
to any descendants of the Pye who went to France
with King James II., and was by him created
Baron Kilpeck, of Kilpeck Castle, in the county of
Hereford ? His daughter Mary Pye was a nun in
a convent at Paris in the last century. Had he
male issue ? JOHN HOBSON MATTHEWS.
Town Hall, Cardiff.
COL. HENRY MARTIN.-— A portrait of Henry
Martin, the regicide, bareheaded, in full armour,
green scarf round waist, in right hand a large
pistol, left hand resting on sword-hilt. Can any
one tell me where this picture is, and whether it
can be seen ? Twenty years ago it was, I think,
in the possession of the Lewis family. Are there
other authentic portraits or miniatures of Henry
Martin? JERMYN.
SCOTTISH CRAFTSMEN. — In one of James Grant's
novels, ' The Captain of the Guard,' the craftsmen
of Edinburgh are described in the language of the
time? the fifteenth century, as the " feonest meji of
Edinburgh," and the author goes on to explain
that it was the common designation of the period
for a respectable tradesman or artisan, and had not
the reference to moral character which it now
bears. I observed recently on some tombstones
in the north-east of Perthshire inscriptions such
as this : " Heir lyes ane honest man, Johne
Blak." Names of various members of the family
would follow, and arranged in a sort of sym-
metrical order, mixed with the usual emblems of
mortality, appeared the familiar implements of
the deceased man's trade — perhaps the tools of a
smith or wright, or, if a miller, parts of a meal mill.
Very few of the stones were older than the seven-
teenth century. These inscriptions help to con-
firm Grant's assertion. Is he to be depended on
in such a matter ? Many of the stones are finely
carved, and on not a few there are shields sur-
rounded by graceful scroll-work and surmounted
by a closed helmet and wreath. In no instance is
there a crest, nor on the shield any tincture or
charge — simply the initials of the heads of the
family and a date, none that could be read later
than 1747. Besides tradesmen these slabs marked
the resting-place of farmers. Have the shields and
helmets any heraldic significance ; or are they the
mere fancy of a country mason % Neray, Meigle,
Blairgowrie, Kinloch, and Clunie furnish examples.
W. B. T.
SERVING FOOD TO WEAPONS. — What is the
authority for the following statement ? I extract
the paragraph from ' Four Welsh Counties,' 1891,
by E. A. Kilner :—
" A Welsh knight, Sir Howel-y-Pwyall, or Sir Howel
of the battle-axe, was made governor of Criccieth Castle
by the Black Prince, for his bravery at the battle of
Poictiers. With his axe he cut down the enemy, took
the French king prisoner, cut off the head of his horse,
and performed many other deeds of prowess. In
addition to his governorship, he was knighted, and
allowed to bear the arms of France, with ' a battle-axe
in bend sinister.' Further, it was ordained that this
famous blade should be hung up in the Tower of London,
and that every day ' a messe of meat ' should be served
before it at the expense of the Crown. The ' messe ' was
afterwards taken out and distributed amongst the
beggars at the gate. After Sir Howel's death the
custom still continued, with the addition that the
beggars were enjoined to pray for the soul of the gallant
knight. Eight yeomen, called yeomen of the Crown,
received eightpence a day to perform this duty, which
was uninterruptedly carried on until the time of Queen
Elizabeth."
This curious custom seems to be connected with
the idea of the spirit of an inanimate object being
able to consume non-material sustenance drawn
from the food offered to it. Were our ancestors of
the fifteenth century so near to the animistic
savage as to believe that the sword could benefit
by the repast ; or were they merely keeping up an
old traditionary form without attaching any par-
ticular meaning to it ? FLORENCE PEACOCK;.
Punstan House, Kirtonrin-^indsev,
8th S. XL JAN. 23, '97.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
69
CARVED ADDERS ON PULPITS. — In the old
church of St. Beuno, at Clynnog in Carnarvonshire
(formerly the collegiate church of the illustrious
Welsh saint), there are two pulpits ; each has two
rows of large adders carved round. Why adders ]
HILDA GAMLIN.
Camden Lawn, Birkenhead.
PRIME MINISTER.
(8th S. x. 357, 438.)
Although it is technically correct that there is
not in law either such an officer of state as a
Prime Minister or such a body as the Cabinet,
of which he is the head it would be worse than
pedantic at this stage of our constitutional
development to ignore either the one or the
other ; and it seems of importance to attempt
more systematically to trace the origin of the
Premiership than has hitherto been done.
The idea of one of the official servants of the
Crown being superior in position to all the rest is
old enough ; and it has been recognized not only
in our history but our literature, from Marlowe
even to Tennyson. It is plainly evident in
Marlowe's ' Edward II.', where the King exclaims
to Gaveston,
I here create thee Lord High Chamberlain,
Chief Secretary to the state and me.
Act I. so. i.;
and precisely the same idea is in the pseudo-
Shaksperian 'Life and Death of Thomas Lord
Cromwell,' the Duke of Norfolk saying, —
Cromwell, the gracious majesty of England,
For the good liking he conceives of thee,
Makes thee the master of the jewel-house,
Chief secretary to himself, and withal,
Creat§8 thee one of his highness' privy-council.
Act IV. sc. i.
In Shakspere we have not only the thing but an
early indication of the name, Henry VIII. asking
Wolsey,
Have I not made you
The prime man of the state?— Act III. sc. ii.
Andrew Marvel! brought the name a long step
nearer to the usage of to-day in the line in ' The
King's Vows,' which cannot be of later date than
1678,
A pimp shall be my minister premier ;
and it was to 1679 that Lord Haversham, in a
historic debate in the House of Lords on 13 Feb.,
1741, hereafter to be dealt with, attributed a
declaration of Charles II. that he would never
be governed by a single minister any more (' Par-
liamentary History,' vol. xi. f. 1062 n.).
It is to the politicians of the reign of Charles II.,
indeed, that we must look for the earliest plain
indication of the now familiar phrase, for Roger
JTorth wrote concerning onp qf the Cabal ;—
"The Duke of Bucks was a strange Instance of a
Bizzarr Courtier [who] had the unaccountable Chance
to be, for some Time, little less than primier Minister
to direct all the King's Affairs."—' Examen,' p. 453.
And though he referred (ibid., p. 44) to Shaftes-
bury, another of the Cabal, as one who, as some
thought, "aimed at making the Monarchy abso-
lute, and himself to be the chief Minister," the state-
ment is indexed (in the edition of 1740) as a wish
to be " premier Minister." The idea of a recog-
nized chief of Administration, indeed, was then in
the air, for Bishop Burnet, in his reference to Laud,
written before 1705, said : —
" A chief minister, and one in high favour, determines
the rest so much, that they are generally 1 ittle better
than machines acted by him." — 'History of His Own
Time,' book i. sec. 50.
This is before the time of Walpole, with whom
both the position and the name of Prime Minister
are commonly held to have originated ; but the term
was first directly applied to Robert Harley, for
Swift, in his ' Atlas ; or, the Minister of State,'
addressed to the Lord Treasurer Oxford, wrote in
1710,
Atlas is a politician,
A premier minister of state.
What Swift intended as a compliment to a
patron, did not appeal in the same fashion to
Barley's enemies. It was charged against the ex-
Lord Treasurer in the 15th of the Articles of
Impeachment levelled against him in July, 1715,
by the House of Lords, that, throughout the
negotiations which preceded the Peace of Utrecht,
he took on himself " a most arbitrary and unwar-
rantable authority, and the chief direction and
influence in her majesty's Councils"; while the
Commons, in the fifth of their separate Articles,
alleged that he had "assumed to himself the
supreme direction in her majesty's Councils"
(« Lords' Journals,' vol. xx. pp. 109, 140). These
charges the accused statesman specifically denied :
he never " took upon himself any arbitrary or un-
warrantable authority, much less the chief direction
and influence in her majesty's Councils," and he
never *' assumed the supreme direction" therein
(ibid., pp. 211, 217). But a score of years later
his jealous colleague and rival, Bolingbroke, ex-
plained in his own fashion what these charges
meant, for " Caleb D'anvers," in the Craftsman of
18 Jan., 1735, sought to dispose of a Walpolian
pamphlet accusing Bolingbroke of having been
" the Author of all the publick Measures and Pro-
ceedings, during the four last Years of Q. Anne,"
by saying: —
"The late Earl of Oxford stands charged, in the Im-
peachment against him, with being the Prime, if not
the sole Minister, and engrossing to himself the absolute
Management and Direction of all Affairs."
Bolingbroke, indeed, may be given the credit of
fastening the phrase upon Walpole, the Craftsman
and $<?g's Journal, both devoted to his interest)
70
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[8th S. XI. JAN. 23, '97.
using it again and again as a term of reproach
before it was regularly accepted by politicians. It
was, however, common form on the part of the
Opposition, for years before his fall from office,
to compare Walpole with Richelieu and other
ministers of autocratic monarohs, who had con-
trived to absorb most of their masters' power ;
and a striking example of this kind of attack is
to be found in Fog's Journal for 28 April, 1733.
The article therein on ' Court Minions, Oppressors
of the People/ exhibits the fashion in which the
term was at once made current and odious, for
it remarked : —
" The chief Business of a Court Minion, or prime
Minister, is to enrich himself and his Family Mr.
Gordon, in a Discourse prefixed to the Translation of
Tacitus dedicated to Sir Rob. Walpole, says : ' Was it
any wonder the People of France gasped under Oppres-
sion and Taxes, when the Government was sway'd by
such a Woman (the Queen Regent), herself governed by
Cardinal Mazarine, a publick Thief, one convicted of
having stolen from the Finances 9 Millions in a few
Years; and one, who in the highest Post of first
Minister, could never help showing the base Spirit of a
Little Sharper ' ? In Countries where Royal Prerogative
is limited by Laws, the Name of prime Minister has
been always odious. For, if he fills the Great Offices of
State, with Men of Honour and Abilities, they will never
submit to his Direction ; if with his own base Creatures,
they will bring his Administration into Contempt — and
if he should strive to maintain his Power by an Invasion
of the People's Liberties, and his Constituents should be
weak enough to support him in it, they will probably be
involved in one common Ruin. For Men who are born
Free, will not be aw'd by any Human Titles, or frighten'd
into Slavery by a Q Wig, a Red Coat, and a pair of Jack
Boots."
Not only in the press was Walpole held up to
public execration as Prime Minister, for the
Prompter (quoted in the Gentleman's Magazine
for January, 1735) describes a bill as having been
given away at a masquerade, part of which read
as follows : —
"On Thursday next, by the Norfolk Company of arti-
ficial Comedians, at Robin's Great Theatrical Booth in
Palace-yard, will be presented a comical and diverting
Play of Seven Acts, call'd 'Court and Country,' in
which will be revived, the entertaining Scene of the
* Two Blundering Brothers,' with the Cheats of Rabbi
Robin, Prime-Minister of King Solomon."
Year after year, this kind of attack in varied ways
went on, but the first formal suggestion of the term
in Parliament would seem to have been in a protest
made in the House of Lords on 28 Jan., 1741, after
the and- Walpole Opposition had been defeated in
attempting to appoint a secret committee to inquire
into the conduct of the war, the second head of this
pronouncement declaring that
"the BO often urged argument of secrecy may not
only prove the security, but the cause of a sole Minister,
secrecy being undoubtedly best observed by one; and
such a sole Minister may, by the same reasoning, as well
refuse the communication of measures to the rest of his
Majesty's Council, and thereby engross a power incon-
sistent with, and fatal to, this Constitution." — 'Lords'
Journals,' vol. xxv. p. 578.
Within another three weeks it came to the fore
with a rush, for the accusation that Walpole had
made himself a Sole or Prime Minister was one of
the main charges levelled against him in the famous
simultaneous debate in the Houses of Lords and
Commons on 13 Feb., 1741, upon a motion for
addressing George II. to dismiss Walpole from his
presence and councils for ever. In the course of
the debate in the Lords, Carteret, the mover of the
resolution, observed : —
" A sole prime minister may be able to prevent the
truth's reaching the ears of his master, by means of any
of those he suffers to have free access to hia person " ;
while Argyll, another of the Opposition, declared :
u If my father or brother took upon him the office of a
sole minister, I would oppose it as inconsistent with the
constitution, as a high crime and misdemeanour."
To these peers Lord Chancellor Hardwicke
replied : —
" A sole minister is so illegal an office, that it is none.
Yet a noble lord [Carteret] says, Superior respondeat,
which is laying down a rule for a prime minister,
whereas the noble duke [Argyll] was against any. In fact,
there hath, always been some person in peculiar confi-
dence with the King, and there is nothing in this
against the constitution."
But he went on : —
" To imagine or suppose that any one Minister solely
engrosses the ear of his sovereign, and usurps the sole
disposal of all the favours of the crown, is, I am sure,
no compliment to the King upon the throne The
Minister whose conduct and character is now under our
consideration, has certainly a great share of his majesty's
confidence; but this does not proceed from any blind
attachment to him, but from the experience his majesty
has had of his fidelity and wisdom."
When the motion had been rejected in the
Lords, a protest was recorded, which declared
that
"we are persuaded that a sole, or even a First,
Minister, is an officer unknown to the law of Britain,
inconsistent with the Constitution of this country, and
destructive of liberty in any Government whatsoever; and
it plainly appearing to us that Sir Robert Walpole has,
for many years, acted as such, by taking upon himself
the chief, if not the sole, direction of affairs, in the dif-
ferent branches of the Administration, we could not but
esteem it to be our indispensable duty to offer our most
humble advice to his Majesty, for the removal of a
Minister so dangerous to the King and the Kingdom." —
' Lords' Journals,' vol. xxv. p. 596.
In the Commons on that same night Sandys,
the member for Worcester, who moved the
address, averred : —
" According to our constitution, we can have no sole
and prime minister : we ought always to have several
prime ministers or officers of state : every such officer
has his own proper department ; and no officer ought to
meddle in the affairs belonging to the department of
another. But it is publicly known that this Minister,
having obtained a sole influence over all our public
counsels, has not only assumed the sole direction of all
public affairs, but has got every officer of state removed
XI. JAN. 23, '97.]
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71
that would not follow his direction, even in the affairs
belonging to his own proper department."
Walpole, who keenly felt the attack underlying
the epithet, replied to the Opposition :—
" Having first invested me with a kind of mock dignity
and styled me a Prime Minister, they impute to me an
unpardonable abuse of that chimerical authority which
they only created and conferred."
And in the same speech he observed :—
" I am called, repeatedly and insidiously, Prime and
Sole Minister But, while I unequivocally deny that I
am Sole and Prime Minister, and that to my influence
and direction all the measures of Government must
be attributed, yet I will not shrink from the responsi-
bility which attaches to the post [First Lord of the
Treasury] I have the honour to hold.
Though victorious on that occasion, Walpole
soon afterwards fell, and the popular distaste for
the title of " Prime Minister," which had been
sedulously fostered as an engine against him, may
be held to account for the more general use through-
out the remainder of the eighteenth century of
"The Minister" for the chief member of the
Cabinet. Yet, by the irony of fate, it was to
Carteret himself that the term he had considered
so odious was next popularly applied, for in certain
lines "on the Johns" — John Duke of Argyll,
John Earl of Stair, and John Lord Carteret —
published in some of the newspapers of 1743, there
is the reference : —
By the Patriots' vagary
He was made Secretary] ;
By himself he 's P[rime] M[inister made.
It was just at this period that the word " Premier"
as an alternative for " Prime Minister" came into
use ; and Mr. John Morley has written : —
" The earliest instance in which I have found the head
of the Government designated as the Premier is in a
letter to the Duke of Newcastle from the Duke of Cum-
berland in 1746, though in Johnson's ' Dictionary,' pub-
lished nine years later, premier still only figures as an
adjective. The king wished Pitt, then just made Pay-
master, to move the parliamentary grant to the victor of
Culloden. ' I should be much better pleased,' writes the
Duke of Cumberland, ' if the Premier moved it, both as
a friend and on account of his weight. I am fully con-
vinced of the Premier's goodwill to me.' [Coxe's ' Pel-
ham Administration,' i. 486. The Duchess of Marl-
borough, in her 'Correspondence,' frequently speaks of
"the Premier Minister," but never of the Premier —
vol. ii. 152, 181, &c. — Mr. Morley's note.] On the other
hand, in a debate so late as 1761, George Grenville de-
clared that Prime Minister is an odious title, and he was
sorry that it was now deemed an essential part of the
constitution."— Mr. John Morley's ' Walpole,' pp. 161-2.
I have not traced the speech of George Gren-
ville to which Mr. Morley refers ; but in that
which that statesman delivered on 3 Feb., 1769,
against the motion for the expulsion of Wilkes
from the House of Commons, he referred to " Mr.
Walpole, who was afterwards first minister to
King George the 1st and King George the 2nd"
(4 Parliamentary History,' vol. xvi. f. 562).
Lord North, Mr, Morley adds, is said never to
have" allowed himself in his own family to'be called
Prime Minister ; but that term, as well as Premier,
was too convenient to be lost sight of, and Burns, m
his ' Earnest Cry and Prayer to the Right Honour-
able the Scotch Representatives in the House of
Commons/ employed " Premier " in the lines
Stand forth, an' tell yon Premier Youth [Pitt]
The honest, open, naked truth ;
while in his * Address of Beelzebub to the Pre-.
sident of the Highland Society' he used it as a
verb in saying —
Nae sage North, now, nor sager Sackville
To watch and premier o'er the pack vile ;
and that "Premier" is preferable to 'Prime
Minister" as a term for poetic use is
attested by Praed's selection of it in his
tions, a Remonstrance of the Ventilator,' written
in 1831, where, with reference to Lord l*rey, i
is observed : —
The Premier has been kind, I own,
To most of his connections.
Neither "Premier" nor "Prime Minister"
came into daily use until the nineteenth century
had well advanced, "First Minister " being often
employed and especially by the late Lord Beacons,
field, who, however, used " Minister," < First
Minister" and "Prime Minister" in turn. In
< Popanilla,' published in 1828, the hero upon one
occasion "shrugged his shoulders and looked as
pitiable as a prime minister with a rebellious
cabinet" (chap. vi.). In the preface to
Letters of Runny mede,' dated 27 July, 1836,
Disraeli remarked that Melbourne,
" with a degree of modest frankness and constitutional
propriety equally admirable, pledges himself before his
country that, as long as he is supported by a majority of
the House of Commons, he will remain Minister.
But in an attack upon Peel on 22 January, 1846,
during the debate on the Address, Disraeli ob-
served, with a curious distortion of what Walpole
really had said : —
" It is all very well for the right honourable gentleman
to say 'I am the First Minister '—and, by the by, ]
think the right honourable gentleman might as well
adopt the phraseology of Walpole,>nd call himself the
sole minister, for his speech was rich in egoistic
rhetoric— it is all very well for him to speak of himself
as the sole minister, for, as all his cabinet voted against
him, he is quite right not to notice them."
In two other debates during the same session
Disraeli barbed his assaults upon Peel by empha-
sizing his position as "First Minister," a term he
applied also to Russell in a discussion upon the
state of the nation on 6 July, 1849 ; but in one
upon agricultural distress on 11 February, 1851,
he referred to " the fashion now amongst Prime
Ministers" (indicating Russell also, however, as
"the Minister"). But "First Minister" was
still his favourite term, for it is to be found in a
speech of 18 February, 1853, upon our relations
with France, and in one of 24 May, 1855, upon
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[8«* S. XI JAN. 23, '97.
the prosecution of the Crimean War, with the
variant in the latter of u Chief Minister to the
Crown." At the historic Slough banquet of
26 May, 1858, however, he twice named Lord
Derby as " Prime Minister of England "; and in
his last famous speech of all — that in the House
of Lords on 3 August, 1880, on the Compensation
for Disturbance Bill — he referred to Mr. Glad-
stone as "the Prime Minister," the designation
by which the office is now always known.
In using the alternatives, Lord Beaconsfield was
following the example of his father, for Isaac
D'Israeli, in 'The Curiosities of Literature/ has
two essays, one on c The Minister — The Car-
dinal Duke of Kichelieu,' and the other on 'The
Minister — Duke of Buckingham, Lord Admiral,
Lord General, &c.' This latter was the Bucking-
ham of Charles I., and not the Buckingham of
Charles II., whom Roger North designated a
"primier Minister"; and how Isaac D'Israeli
understood the term "Minister" is obvious from
his note to the Buckingham essay, '* The misery of
Prime Ministers and favourites is a portion of their
fate, which has not always been noticed by their
biographers," as also in his reference to " the
romantic journey to Madrid, where the Prime
Minister and the heir-apparent, in disguise, con-
fided their safety in the hands of our national
enemies"; and, before the essay ends, there is
given " a curious instance of those heaped-up
calumnies, which are often so heavily laid on the
head of a Prime Minister, no favourite with the
people."
The term " Prime Minister " may fairly now be
regarded as permanently embodied in the British
political vocabulary, though, even as lately as
6 Jan., 1897, the Bishop of Stepney, in a letter to
the Times, on 'Conge" d'Elire and Confirmation,'
observed that " the nation speaks through its
representative, the first Minister."
So much for the name, but for the most authori-
tative account of the place the Prime Minister holds
in the Government of this country one must turn to
Mr. Gladstone, who has the unique record of having
been called to that position four times. In his criti-
cism in the Church of England Quarterly Review
for January, 1877, upon the second volume of Sir
Theodore Martin's ' Life of the Prinoe Consort,' he
wrote : —
"It ia a curious, but little observed, fact of our
history, that the office of First Minister only seems to
have obtained regular recognition as the idea of personal
government by the King faded and became invisible. So
late as the final attacks upon Sir Robert Walpole it was
one of the charges against him that he had assumed the
functions of First Minister."
In his article * Kin beyond Sea,' which appeared
in the North American Review for September,
1878, Mr. Gladstone dealt more in detail with
the position :—
" It [the Cabinet] was for a long time without a
Ministerial head ; the King was the head. While this
arrangement subsisted Constitutional government could
be but half established So late as the impeachment
of Sir Robert Walpole his friends thought it expedient
to urge on his behalf, in the House of Lords, that he had
never presumed to constitute himself a Prime Minister.
The breaking down of the great offices of State by
throwing them into commission, and last among them
of the Lord High Treasurership after the time of Harley,
Earl of Oxford, tended, and may probably have been
meant, to prevent or retard the formation of a recog-
nized Chiefship in the Ministry, which even now we
have not learned to designate by a true English word,
though the use of the imported phrase f Premier ' is at
least as old as the poetry of Burns. Nor can anything
be more curiously characteristic of the political genius
of the people than the present position of this most
important official personage. Departmentally, he is
no more than the first named of five persons, by
whom jointly the powers of the Lord Treasurership
are taken to be exercised; he is not their master, or,
otherwise than by mere priority, their head ; and he has
no special function or prerogative under the formal con-
stitution of the office. He has no official rank, except
that of Privy Councillor. Eight members of the
Cabinet, including five Secretaries of State, and several
other members of the Government, take official pre-
cedence of him. His rights and duties as head of the
Administration are nowhere recorded. He is almost, if
not altogether, unknown to the Statute Law The
head of the British Government ia not a Grand Vizier.
He has no powers, properly so called, over his col-
leagues : on the rare occasions when a Cabinet determines
its course by the votes of its members his vote counts as only
one of theirs. But they are appointed and dismissed by
the Sovereign on his advice In a perfectly organized
administration, such for example as was that of Sir
Robert Peel in 1841-6, nothing of great importance is
matured, or would even be projected, in any department
without his personal cognizance ; and any weighty busi-
ness would commonly go to him before being submitted
to the Cabinet. He reports to the Sovereign its pro-
ceedings, and he also has many audiences of the august
occupant of the Throne. He is bound, in these reports
and audiences, not to counterwork the Cabinet ; not to
divide it ; not to undermine the position of any of
his colleagues in the Royal favour The Prime
Minister has no title to override any one of
his colleagues in any one of the departments.
So far as he governs them, unless it is done by
trick, which is not to be supposed, he governs them
by influence only. But upon the whole, nowhere in
the wide world does so great a substance cast so small
a shadow ; nowhere is there a man who has so much
power, with so little to show for it in the way of formal
title or prerogative."
It will thus be seen that Mr. Gladstone — who,
more than any man, can appreciate the observation
in the conclusion of Tennyson's ' The Princess '
concerning
a shout
More joyful than the city-roar that hails
Premier or King ! —
adopts the very idea of the powers of a Prime
Minister over his colleagues which the Opposition
of 1741 declared to be monstrous and even
treasonable. This of itself is a striking illustra-
tion of how the English Constitution developes — a
development which would have been far more difK-
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cult, and perhaps dangerous, if we had possessed
the "written constitution" to which GENERAL
MAXWELL twice refers, but which would be some-
what difficult to produce.
ALFRED F. BOBBINS.
THE GROSVENOR, EAST INDIAMAN (8th S. x.
515). — It is impossible to tell from the query
whether the question is an idler's or that of a
student. Of course I admit that in either case it is
entitled to a reply; but in the first case any
will do. If that of a student who has taken the
trouble to look up every source he can think of
and failed, I should not venture to reply with
such elementary information as the following.
There has been published this account : " Affecting
Narrative of the Loss of the Grosvenor Indiaman,
Captain Coxson, August 4, 1782. London."
This book has no date; the cataloguer of the
British Museum suggests 1802. If H. T. is an
idler, he will get much more amusement from
' The Wreck of the Grosvenor, an Account of the
Mutiny of the Crew and the Loss of the Ship
when trying to make the Bermudas, 3 vols., 1877,"
which the same authority informs us is a novel
by W. Clark Russell, a name which publishers
consider will float anything, and therefore his
Grosvenor ought never to have sunk. And in
Watt's ' Bibliotheca Britannica ' will be found the
titles of several accounts and a " Journal, &c., of,
&c., in search of the Wreck, &c.. by Captain Riou,
1792."
Your querist will do all bibliographers a service
if he will look the whole question up thoroughly,
and let us know who the authors were of the books
on this ship that are anonymous. Six hours a day
for a week ought to do it, and will be a sufficient
reason why I do not give more information.
RALPH THOMAS.
P.S.— On thinking this over, I don't think I
have allowed enough time ; for, besides consulting
every catalogue that can be found, and every dic-
tionary of dates, and reading all the books carefully,
it would be necessary to try Lloyd's. The registers
of the old East India Company might contain some
information, and the library of the India House,
in Parliament Street, is rich in such on all sub-
jects relating to India. Your correspondent MR.
CHARLES MASON occasionally gives us some excel-
lent notes from this source; and this is a question
he would handle in fine form.
A long and detailed account is given in ' Ship-
wrecks and Disasters ab Sea,' vol. ii., by Cyrus
Redding (London, Whitfcaker, Treacher & Co.,
3), which book forms vol. Ixxix. of " Constable's
Miscellany." The Grosvenor's captain appears to
have been named Coxen ; chief mate, Logie ;
second mate, Shaw ; third mate, Beale ; fourth,
Trotter; fifth, Harris; Hay, purser^ and also
Capt. Talbot (qy., had she two commanders ?). The
passengers were Mrs. Logie (chief mate's wife), Mr.
Newman, Messrs. Taylor, d'Espinette, Williams,
and Oliver, Col. and Mrs. James, Mr. and Mrs,
Hosea, Mr. Nixon, and a " Master Law," a child,
who died. F. L. MAWDESLEY.
Delwood Croft, York.
The required particulars are contained in the
" Narrative of the Loss of the Grosvenor East
Indiaman, [Capt. Coxon] which was Wrecked
upon the Coast of Caffraria, somewhere between
the 27th and 32nd degree of Southern Latitude, on
the 4th of August, 1782. Compiled from the
Examination of John Hynes, one of the unfor-
tunate survivors, by Mr. George Carter, historical
portrait painter, upon his passage outward bound
to India, 8vo. Lond., 1791. A copy of the said work
is preserved in the British Museum Library (press-
mark G 15,731). DANIEL HIPWELL.
See ' Authentic Account of the Loss of the
Grosvenor East Indiaman ; with the Events which
befel the Crew, as given by Robert Price, Thomas
Lewis, John Warmington, and Barney Larey,'
reviewed in Gent. Mag. for 1783, pt. ii. pp. 789-
792. G. F. R. B.
YSONDE, A GHOST-NAME (8th S. x. 413, 503).—
This name appears in Miss Yonge's ' History of
Christian Names,' 1863, ii. 145 : " Esylt was the
French Yseulte, or Ysonde, the Italian Isolte, and
English Ysolt, Isolda, or Izolta, and in all these
shapes was frequent in the families of the Middle
Ages." It is, perhaps, hardly necessary to remark
that Tennyson uses not Ysonde, but Isolt, cf. * The
Last Tournament.' F. C. BIRKBECK TERRY.
WEDDING CEREMONY (8th S. ix. 406, 475 ; x.
59, 98, 126, 182).— In a recent paper, entitled
* The Law of Dakheil and other Curious Customs
of the Bedowin,' by Mr. Sydney Klein, F.L.S.,
F. R.A.S., read before a private literary society, he
thus refers to the above ceremony of hand-tying : —
" It ia also the form used when the moat solemn of all
earthly pledges and vows are exchanged between man
and wife, namely by joining of hands. Thia was the
' dextrarum junctio ' of the Romans, but it was used long
before their time in the ancient Hindoo ceremony of
marriage."
So it is clearly evident from where the modern
system is derived. T. F.
JOHN JONES, M.P. (8th S. x. 416).— While I
cannot tell who this person was, MR. W. D. PINK
may perhaps be interested to be referred to a
memorable speech made by Jones in the Commons
" die Martis Ap. 4, 1671," on a Bill introduced into
the House to obtain powers for the building of a
bridge from Fulham to Putney. Jones vigorously
denounced the threatened project, which he declared
would not only jeopardize the commerce of the
great city which he bud the honour to, represent.
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
[8"> S. XI. JAN. 23, '97.
but actually annihilate it altogether ! My refer-
ence is to Gray's 'Debates in the House of
Commons,' 1769. CHAS. JAS. FERET.
49, Edith Road, West Kensington.
"DISANNUL " (8* S. x. 414, 483).— I agree with
your correspondent at the second reference in his
remarks upon this word ; for if we are to give up
using " disannul/' we ought also to give up using
"dissever," if we wish to be consistent, as its
formation resembles that of " disannul," a word
which seems to me to have been formed because,
for some reason or other, it was felt that " annul "
was not strong enough to convey the meaning
which it was intended to express by using " dis-
annul." Of. the use of disperdo in Latin with that
of per do. In dialect "disannul" has curiously
come to mean dispossess — as, "Pray Ma'm, don't let
me disannul you of your seat." Of. Miss Baker's
1 Northamptonshire Glossary.'
F. 0. BIRKBECK TERRY.
May I direct attention to the paragraph num-
bered 5 in division i. of the article on the prefix
dit- in the 'New English Dictionary,' which gives
several instances of Latin words similarly formed.
Q.V
DUKE OP GLOUCESTER (8th S. x. 515 ; xi. 18,
57). — He was born at Hampton Court, and at his
baptism, when three days old, by the Bishop of
London, the king declared his pleasure that the
prince should be known as the Duke of Gloucester.
At the funeral of the prince in Henry VII.'s
Chapel, Westminster Abbey, the Garter King of
Arms proclaimed him " the most illustrious Prince,
William, Duke of Gloucester, Knight of the Most
noble order of the Garter," and the gilt plate on
the coffin has the following inscription : —
Illustrissimi Principis,
Gulieltni Ducis Gloceatriae
Nobilissimi Ordinis Aurese
Periscelidis Equitis,
Filii Unici Celsissimaa Principissaj
Annas, Per Inclytissimum Principem
Georgium Daniae, Hasreditarium ;
Ohiit in Castro Regali Apud
Windesor, xxx° Die Julii, M.DOO
Anno ^Etatis xn Ineunte.
WILLIAM H. CUMMINGS.
THOMAS BOLAS (8th S. xi. 27).— He was the
author of " The English Merchant : or the Fatal
Effects of Speculation in the Funds : A Novel
In Two Volumes. London : Printed for William
Lane, at the Minerva Press, Leadenhall-street,
M.DCC.XCV," 8vo. Some former owner has written,
under the author's name, on the title which I have,
"East Lane Wai worth." This was, very likely,
the author's address. JULIAN MARSHALL.
THE WILL OP KING HENRY VI.: "CHARE
ROPED " (8th S. x, 253, 401).— The remarks of your
correspondents not having elicited any further ex
planation of " chare rofed," I beg to offer one. Since
my father compiled his glossary, three-quarters of a
entury have added greatly to our knowledge of old
English. Jamieson's ( Scottish Dictionary ' may be
ited as affording valuable assistance. There can
now be little, if any, doubt that the correct render-
ing of the words in the will of King Henry VI. is
"vaulted and lead-roofed." The word char, or
chare, means a cart, a cartload, the load carried —
e. g.} lead — and, further, a stated weight of lead, a
ton, more or less. The word fodder, or j 'other,
with the same meaning, is more common in Eng-
land, and it occurs in accounts of the spoil of the
monasteries. T. J. WILLSON.
Reform Club.
GEORGE MORLAND, SENIOR (8th S. xi. 8). — The
query really refers to a pair of females painted by
Henry Robert Morland, father of G. Morland,
jun. Henry was born in 1730, and the Miss
Gunnings were both ladies of title in 1752, there-
fore it is most unlikely that so young an artist
would paint them as " Mies Gunnings "; and if
done after their marriages the titles would have
added value to the works. The lady washing was
said to be Mrs. or Miss Dawe. Will A. C. H. say
if in the oil painting of the lady washing she
wears a pink dress ; and is the frame a deep Flo-
rentine with star-shaped flowers on the corners ?
If so, I have the fellow oil painting to it, the lady
ironing. And I also have photographs of both
pictures in the same frames. Will A. C. H. kindly
give me name and address of the party who has
the oil painting if it answers my description ? I
would send photograph for comparison. If it be
the picture I inquire for, its history is singular in
the extreme. HILDA GAMLIN.
Camden Lawn, Olaughton Road, Birkenbead.
George Morland painted " a lady ironing " as a
companion picture to the "lady washing," and
these pictures have been said to be portraits of
the two celebrated Miss Gunnings, but authority
is in favour of their being the portraits of the
painter's daughters. Certainly the lady ironing
has not the faintest resemblance to either of the
Gunnings, though the other has a slight resem-
blance to Lady Coventry. I believe that Lord
Mansfield has the originals. I should very much
like to know the name of the engraver of the
" print " seen by A. C. H.
CONSTANCE RUSSELL.
Swallowfield Park, Reading.
What reason is there to suppose that there is
one portrait of Miss Gunning " washing lace in
a basin" by George Morland, sen., or any Mor-
land, or any one whatever? Henry Morland
painted two fancy portraits of laundry-maids,
perhaps his daughters, which were sold to Lord
Mansfield at the Stowe sale under the name of
the two Miss Guunipgs, and exhibited as such
8th S. XI. JAN. 23, '97.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
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in the National Portrait Exhibition of 1867.
But they are not so described at the National
Gallery, where they are at present to be seen.
KlLLIGREW.
The father of George Morland and the painter
of Miss Gunning washing was Henry Robert Mor-
land. He painted a companion picture of Miss
Gunning ironing. These two pictures belong to
the Earl of Mansfield, at Caen wood. Redgrave
mentions a George Henry Morland, the grand-
father of George Morland, but he does not seem to
have exhibited. ALGERNON GRAVES.
EDWARD II. (8th S. xi. 7).— A full and interest-
ing account of the battle of Boroughbridge and the
events which occurred before and after the fight,
also the works consulted on the subject, with a list
of the knights and nobles who fought against the
king, will be found in the Yorkshire Archaeological
and Topographical Journal, vol. vii. pp. 330-60.
JOHN RADCLIFFE.
GOSFORTH (8th S. x. 172, 224, 264, 300, 405,
441). — My attention has just been called to the
correspondence which has appeared in your columns,
mainly between ME. RICHARD WELFORD and
PROF. SEE AT, on the subject of the derivation of
the place-names of Gosforth and Jesmond, borne
by two suburbs of Newcastle- upon -Tyne. The
Professor, it seems, pronounced ex cathedra that
Gosforth was nothing more than Goose-ford, where-
upon MR. WELFORD, who happens to dwell there,
quoted the Rev. John Hodgson as his authority
for the creed that Gosforth means Ouse-ford, a ford
over the Ouse-burn, and that Jesmond, anciently
Gesemouthe, which the stream passes a little lower
down on its course towards the Tyne, means 0 use-
mouth.
It was perfectly easy for PROF. SKEAT in reply
to show that the etymologies of place-names in
Hodgson's ' History of Northumberland ' were for
the most part arrant balderdash, and that one of
your other correspondents who wished to make out
that Gosforth was the Icelandic Gas-forath, or
Goose-marsh, might for the matter of that as well
have explained it in High Dutch as a Gas-store
(Gas- Vorrath), i. e., a colliery. But these side issues
trailed across the scent do not, in my opinion, sub-
stantiate in the least the enunciation with which
PROF. SKEAT started the controversy. Hodgson
did much good, we should remember, in showing
that Jesmond did not signify Jesus-Mount, as was
then popularly supposed, but was formerly known
as Gesemuthe, its ancient chapel being dedicated
to Our Lady, and not to the Holy Name. Neither
he nor MR. WELFORD, however, has explained
why, if Jesmond be really Ouse-mouth, it should
be situated nearly two miles from the mouth of the
Ouse-burn, with several other places between.
PROF. SKEAT deserves to be thanked for pointing
out the initial impossibility of Gosforth being a
corruption of Ouse-ford or Jesmond of Ouse-mouth ;
but if Gosforth must be Goose-ford, and Jesmond
(Gesemuthe), by parity of reasoning, Geese-mud,
then the derivations of Hengrave and Ducklington
are equally obvious. Is not PROF. SKEAT thinking
of the spirited stanza in the (spurious) ballad of
4 The Black Sow of Rimside ' referring to four
villages belonging to the monks of Lindisfarne :
From Goswick we 've geese, and from Cheswick we 've
cheese,
From Buckton we 've ven'son in store,
From Swinhoe we 've bacon, but the Scota have it taken,
And the Prior is longing for more ?
It does seem extraordinary that, instead of being
content to search out the earliest forms in which
place-names present themselves, and then, if these
disclose nothing as to their origin, confessing our
ignorance, we should, at this hour of the day, aim
at reinstating the bear and the goat in their ancient
possession of Berwick and Gateshead. " Gose-
ford," "Gesemuthe" — sat sapientibus. Beyond
this we have no evidence, no clue — the goose of
Gosforth may have hatched the geese of Jesmond,
or there may have been here a Gosfrith and a Gisa
with a good neighbourly blood- feud, if only we knew
about it ; but we do not. PROF. SKEAT assures us,
" we are no longer babes"; let us try not to be
goslings. CADWALLADER J. BATES.
Langley Castle, Northumberland.
One of your correspondents (8t!l S. x. 405) appears
to raise an objection to the meaning expounded by
PROF. SKEAT on the ground that geese do not
want fords. Very likely ; but is it not possible
that we have here to do with an instance of that
quaint humorous imagery in which people in
olden times delighted ? We have all of us heard
of raw recruits practising the goose-step. Foreign
analogies are often helpful. In Russia, a line of
carts, tumbrels, or sledges, following one another
in a beaten track, or horses harnessed tandem
instead of abreast, are said to move gnsem or
guskom (i. e., goosewise). Equally so, a string of
ladies, daintily crossing a muddy road, each step-
ping in her predecessor's dear little foot-marks, or,
to come to the point, a file of peasants fording a
river. I have more than once witnessed, in this
neighbourhood, a scene of the latter description,
the men with boots or bass shoes and breeks slung
at their shoulders or hoisted above their heads, the
women — well, mutatis mutandis, wading across a
swollen stream in each other's wake. A Russian
proverb says, in effect : —
If the ford you don't know,
Let the skilled foremost go.
Applicable, by the way, not only to rivers, but to
A.-S. etymologies, with which I do not meddle, my
aim being merely to illustrate the mention of goose
in connexion with ford. H. E. MORGAN.
St. Petersburg.
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CHURCH OR CHAPEL (8tb S. x. 473). — The use
of the term " chapel" by old-fashioned Catholics,
to designate one of their places of worship, pro-
bably arose from the fact that, in their view, their
forefathers had been wrongfully ousted from the
possession of the ancient parish churches. By the
way, I have evidence that, in some places, the pro-
scribed Catholics were accustomed, when circum-
stances permitted, to assemble secretly and hear
Mass in the ancient and abandoned chapels which
have existed in every part of the country, and
which are often older than the parish church.
JOHN HOBSON MATTHEWS.
Town Hall, Cardiff.
The distinction to which MR. ANGUS calls
attention is not peculiar to Irish men and
women, but is common in England. In the
Midland Counties I do not remember to have heard
a Catholic (i. e. Roman) place of worship called by
any other name than "chapel." C. C. B.
The history of the word " chapel" — quite apart
from the etymology — is interesting. It is many
years now since the Protestant Dissenters aban-
doned the use of the word " meeting-house "; then
they spoke of their "chapels"; but this, too, is
getting obsolete, and " churches " is now the
term. Roman Catholics have always used the
word " chapel," but "church" is employed also,
and I am often asked by strangers here the way
to what they are pleased to call "the Catholic
church." Among English Church people, "chapel,"
as meaning a subsidiary place of worship to the
parish church, was common enough once, but is
little used now. Who talks in these days of
' ' Margaret Chapel " or " Oxford Chapel " ? But,
on the other hand, we do not speak of " proprietary
churches" or "churches of ease," this latter not
now a commonly used name. The size has not
much to do with it. If " church " means the parish
church only, " chapel " means all other places of
worship, irrespective of denomination.
EDWARD H. MARSHALL, M.A.
Hastings.
POLITICIAN (8th S. x. 333, 444, 617).— Before
this heading is closed I hope one of your con-
tributors will give us the famous passage from
Laurence Oliphant's * Piccadilly ' in which Mr.
Wog's indignation boils over at the mere mention
of the word. I am sorry distance from a library
deprives me of the pleasure of quoting it.
Q. V.
CHINESE PLAYING-CARDS (8th S. viii. 467).— I
have not yet met with the monograph on this sub-
ject to which I previously alluded ; but it has
occurred to me that the readers of ' N. & Q.7
might be interested in a short description of the
half dozen varieties of Chinese cards which I have
collected and classified up to date. Nothing
appears to be known of them here in London,
even at the British Museum, where the few they
have are catalogued in a most imperfect manner.
I have had to acquire information first-hand from
Chinese, relying only in some cases upon a short
article in Dutch which was printed in the Taal,
Land, en Volkenkunde, Batavia, 1886. The in-
terest of the Chinese cards consists in their im-
mense variety and the way they imitate such
other games as dominoes and chess.
1. Chinese dominoes contain twenty-one pieces,
that being the number of throws that can be made
with a pair of dice. The domino cards are marked
in exactly the same way, and, like dominoes, are
divided into two suits, eleven cards being called
civil and ten military. The latter are the 1-2,
1-4, 2-3, 2-4, 2-5, 2-6, 3-4, 3-5, 3-6, 4-5.
2. Chinese chess contains sixteen pieces. They
use the lines instead of the spaces, which gives
them nine rows in place of eight. Then there is
a pair of cannons, occupying an intermediate
position between the first nine and the pawns.
Lastly, there are five pawns. I have two entirely
different kinds of chess carde. I will describe
first the so-called "red cards." These consist of
the same number of pieces as the game of chess
which I have just spoken of, including the five
pawns. There is a red set and a black set. Now
for the other kind of cards called "four colours."
This comprises only one of each class, general,
scholar, elephant, carriage, horse, cannon, pawn,
and, as the name "four colours " implies, there are
four of these sets of seven, each in a different shade,
yellow, red, green, and white.
3. The " ten letter cards " are divided into four
suits, and take their name from the fact that in
each suit the values are indicated by the cha-
racters standing for the Chinese numerals from
two to ten. There are thirty-eight cards in a
pack, namely, four court cards, the ace of kwon,
the ace of sok, and nine numbered cards of each
of the four suits sjip, kwon, sok, tshien.
4. The two kinds I possess of the so-called
" white cards " differ so slightly that they may be
considered one set. The pack consists of only
thirty different cards, divided into three suits, to
each of which there are plain cards and a court
card. The lowest suit is generally known among
Europeans as the suit of strings, and its tenth
card is called the "white flower." The next suit
in order is that of cakes, with its court card the
" red flower." Lastly comes the suit of myriads,
with its court card the " old thousand."
JAS. PLATT, Jun.
NELSON (8tb S. xi. 27). — The arms of Admiral
Nelson, prior to his peerage and the augmenta-
tions granted to him, were, Or, a cross flory sable,
over all a bendlet gules. These were borne by
his father, the Rev. Edmund Nelson, rector of
Burnham Thorpe, Norfolk, and appear on a
8'l> S. XI. JAN. 23, '97.]
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gravestone in the chancel of that church, impaled
with those of Suckling, in memory of Catharine,
daughter of Maurice Suckling, D.D., his wife, the
mother of Lord Nelson. She died 26 Dec., 1767.
There is also a tablet in the same chancel to the
above Edmund Nelson, with the augmented arms
as now borne by the family, but apparently omit-
ting the fess wavy over all, with the word " Tra-
falgar" in gold. He died 26 April, 1802. See
Farrer's 'Church Heraldry of Norfolk,' ii. 333-4.
0. R. M.
Burke deduces the lineage of Earl Nelson from
the Nelsons of Mawdesley ; apparently, to some
extent, on the strength of the great admiral's
father having borne their arms: "The arms of
Nelson of Mawdesley were borne by the Norfolk
Nelsons, as may be seen in old books and papers
formerly belonging to the Rev. Edmund Nelson
of Burnham Thorpe." Now Gwillim gives " Nel-
ston of Mawdisley " (a palpable misspelling for
Nelson of Mawdesley), Or, a cross flory sa. , over
all a bendlet gules ; and Burke's * General
Armory' has "Nelson (Mawdesley and Fairhurst,
] 664), Argent, a cross flory sable, over all a bend
gules," which is, I suppose, what Miss THOYTS
requires.
The arms first granted to Lord Nelson (when he
got his peerage) were Or, a cross flory sa., a bend
gules, surmounted by another engrailed of the field,
charged with three bombs fired ppr.
F. L. MAWDESLEY.
Delwood Croft, York.
WAVE NAMES (8th S. x. 432; xi. 32).— MR.
APPERSON is not, I hope, inclined to vent his
wrath on my humble self for an evident case of
plagiarism. Plagiarism there has been un-
doubtedly, but I hope I am free from any such
suspicion. The notes were, as I stated, taken
from an issue of the Family Herald, the date of
which, I am very sorry to say, was, through care-
lessness on my part, never noted. A short time
previous to my sending the notes I found them
among a number of papers and things of mine,
and, having in mind the contributions from several
readers on f White Horses,' thought they would
form a welcome addition to the latter. It was
with some reluctance I sent them without an exact
reference as to the date, for I know how important
it is to name this ; but I left the matter in the
hands of the Editor, knowing he would use his
discretion in the matter. I only approximated the
date, and may have been (as MR. APPERSON
shows) wrong. If MR. APPERSON so much desires
to know the date, he might learn it on inquiry of
the editor of the Family Herald. Did the " turn-
over " to which he refers as having appeared in
the Globe bear his name and the authorities which
he quotes ? If not, how can he be surprised that
the paper I name has not given proper acknow-
ledgment ? In all probability the " turnover " was
the source of the Family Herald's paragraph ; the
editor of the latter periodical having appropriated
it, considering such unsigned matter public pro-
perty. If, however, it was a signed article, then
the matter has a different complexion altogether,
and the wielder of the scissors is surely in the
wrong. As far as I am concerned in the matter,
I claim exoneration. All the particulars I pos-
sessed were given. No one could do more. Still,
if my note has unwittingly given MR. APPERSON
cause for umbrage, then I trust he will accept my
apology. 0. P. HALE.
I should be greatly obliged if MR. 0. P. HALE
would give some further information as to the
terms " slog," for a heavy surf, and "home,'* for
a windless swell of the sea. Neither word occurs
in Mr. Eye's ' Glossary of Words used in East
Anglia,' and during considerable wayfaring in both
Norfolk and Suffolk I have heard neither.
JAMES HOOPER,
Norwich.
" Rollers " is used by Kingsley, 'Westward Ho/
chap, xxxii. : — "From their feet stretched away
to the westward the sapphire rollers of the vast
Atlantic, crowned with a thousand crests of flying
foam. F. C. BIRKBECK TERRY.
EAST INDIA AND SOUTH SEA COMPANIES (8th
S. x. 436, 502).— The replies of MR. E. H. COLE-
MAN and MR. F. L. MAWDESLEY do not supply what
I want. Of course I know that "the South Sea
bubble exploded in 1720" — who does not? — but
the South Sea Company existed till at least the
end of the first half of the nineteenth century. It
is, I think, pretty generally known that Charles
Lamb and his brother John held clerkships in the
South Sea Company. I want to know at what
date the company ceased to exist, and to get an
accurate succession of governors, sub-governors,
and deputy-governors. I think the sovereigns
from George I. to William IV. were governors ;
amongst the sub-governors were Peter Burrell,
Thomas Coventry, and Charles Bosanquet (of
whom the last named died in 1850) ; and among
the deputy-governors Lewis Way, Samuel Salt,
Sir Robert Baker, and the Hon. Philip Bouverie.
ALFRED B. BEAVEN, M.A.
Preston.
LONDON DIRECTORIES (8th S. xi. 9). — A list of
the principal inhabitants in the City of London
was, we believe, first published in 1640, and a copy
may be seen in the Guildhall Library, together
with a reprint, done in 1886.
A list of merchants in the City of London was
published in 1677, and a copy is to be seen at the
Guildhall Library. This was also reprinted in
1883, but we believe both these lists were only
issued for one year.
78
NOTES AND QUERIES. [s» s. xi. J AH. 23, -a.
The first directory of London, properly speaking,
was that of H. Kent, published in 1736.
R. Baldwin also began a London directory in
1740. Both these were continued after 1800.
In 1761 Payne, we believe, began a London
directory, which was continued in 1782 by and
" printed for T. Lowndes, No. 77, in Fleet Street,
price one shilling and sixpence."
Of this work we have only the twenty-second
edition, which contained about 7,000
"names and places of abode of the merchants and
principal traders of the Cities of London and West-
minster, the Borough of Southwark, and their Environs
with the Number affixed to each house. Also separate
lists of the Lord Mayor and Court of Aldermen, Bank,
South Sea, East India, Royal Exchange Assurance, Sun'
Union, Hand-in-Hand, and London Assurance Directors';
to which are added, a correct list of all the Bankers of
London, and a particular account of the public stocks."
The first edition of the * Post-Office London
Directory' was issued in 1798. The earlier editions
contained about 12,000 names of the professional
and trading classes, but half the book was taken
up with information of a general character, a long
list of places in the delivery of the twopenny post,
and a part, containing over 100 pages, was entitled
11 New Guide to Stage Coaches, Waggons, Carts,
Vessels, &c."
The first part was sold for 3s. 6d, or the two
parts together for 4s. 6d.
One list in the old directory is curious in its
fulness, that of the army agents. The 1806 edition
contained no fewer than 130 names, whereas the list
in the 'Post-Office London Directory/ 1897, contains
but twelve.
We believe there is no complete set of directories
of London to be found. Our own set is not at all
perfect, for between 1783 and 1809 we have but
seven volumes ; after that, however, it is fairly com-
plete. The British Museum has a far more perfect
collection, but that in the Guildhall Library is, so
far as we are aware, the best and most continuous
at present existing.
The Poll-Books for the City of London would,
of course, furnish a very large number of house-
holders within the limits of the City for many
years back. KELLY & Co. '
AN ANOMALOUS PARISH (8th S. xi. 25).— Stotes-
bury is not a unique instance of a parish without
either village or church. West Dowlish, near
Ilminster, Somerset, is another. There is a church-
yard, and the foundations of the church which
once existed can be traced. For many years the
parishes of East and West Dowlish have been held
together. But the incumbent of East Dowlish (or
Dowlish Wake) has, after being inducted to the
latter living, to, what was called, " read himself in "
in West Dowlish Churchyard. Of course the bell
could not be rung, for the good and sufficient
reason that there was none to ring. If I remember
rightly — a memory which carries me back nearly
fifty years — there was the bowl of a font there also.
In Orockford's ' Clerical Directory ' they are put
down as distinct rectories, though held by the same
rector. CHARLOTTE G. BOG.ER.
Chart Sutton.
In Crockford's 'Clerical Directory,' 1896, the
parish of Bayfield, in the diocese of Norwich, is
described as possessing no church and thirty-nine
people. The income of the benefice is llll, but
there is no vicarage house. On the east coast some
parishes have partly — their ancient churches
wholly — gone into the sea. There are well-known
instances at Owthorne and Kilnsea, in Holderness.
W. 0. B.
CHRISTMAS DAT (8th S. x. 515).— Until 1751,
when the New Style was adopted in England, the
calendars of the Anglican and Galilean peoples
were diverse. Perhaps the Quatrodeciman con-
troversy was in Chillingworth's mind when he
wrote. EDWARD H. MARSHALL, M.A.
Hastings.
THE BLACK PRINCE'S SWORD (8th S. xi. 49).—
Particulars and references have been given in
' N. & Q,,' 4* S. iv. 363, 490. W. 0. B.
NOTES ON BOOKS, &0.
Studies in Dante. By Edward Moore, D.D. (Oxford,
Clarendon Press.)
THREE years ago (8th S. vi. 479) we mentioned with com-
mendation the handsome, convenient, and scholarly
edition of Dante issued from the Clarendon Press
under the care of Dr. Edward Moore, the lecturer on
Dante at the Taylor Institution, Oxford, the Barlow
lecturer on Dante at University College, London,
and the author of many books on the 'Divina
Commedia.' The present volume constitutes the first
series of studies in Dante dealing with the poet's use of
Scripture and classical authors. It is avowedly intended
for serious students, and is to be followed by a second
series, calculated, it is hoped, to make a more general
appeal. Many years of labour have been occupied in
its preparation ; it is carefully and systematically done,
and i* accompanied by elaborate indexes, which add
enormously to its utility. One of the numerous objects
of Dr. Moore is to illustrate the encyclopaedic cha-
racter of Dante's learning and studies— an attribute he
shares with the great writers of mediaeval times and of
the Renaissance — a possession possible only when books
were by comparison few, and when the range of know-
ledge was, in a sense, limited. Its extent becomes in
the case of Dante more remarkable when we think of
the difficulty of access to manuscripts rare and precious,
and in some cases all but unattainable. This difficulty
had been diminished by the time of Erasmus and
Rabelais, when printing had brought within reach
most of the classics, and had practically disappeared in
that of Montaigne. In dealing with the sources of
Dante's erudition, Dr. Moore occupies himself with
Scripture, St. Augustine and Orosius, and the Greek and
Latin authors from Aristotle to Seneca, together with
Albertus Magnus and the Arabian astronomers. To
8th g. xi. JAN, 23, '97.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
79
have included St. Thomas Aquinas and other mediaeval
and scholastic writers would have all but doubled the
task. From the sources utilized more than ],500 direct
citations, obvious references, and allusions and reminis-
cences have been traced. The chief source is the
Vulgate, which supplies more than 500 instances,
Aristotle furnishes 300, Virgil 200, Ovid 100, Cicero and
Lucan about 50 each, Statius and Boethius about 40, and
Horace and Livy only 10 to 20. Dante's entire system
of physic, physiology, and meteorology comes from
Aristotle, much of what may be called the machinery, as
is known, is derived from the JSneid, the mythology is
largely taken from Ovid and Statius. Lucan, Livy, and
Orosius are employed for historical allusions, while
Cicero supplies him with " one of the most fundamental
principles of his classification of sins in the ' Inferno.' '
Some of Dante's quotations are doubtless derived at
second hand from* Florilegia,1 'Dicta Philosophorum,'aud
the like, and the poet is even charged with " what we
should now call ' plagiarism ' ' without acknowledg-
ment. It almost appears as if Dante attaches an equal
value to Scriptural and profane writers. He at least,
as is pointed out, takes his instances of vice or virtue
alternately from sacred and profane sources, associating
Nimrod with Briareus, Jephthah with Agamemnon,
Goliath with Antaeus. Dr. Moore is disposed to believe
that Dante knew Horace only as a satirist, and was
unacquainted with the ' Odes,' and furnishes interesting
proof of the general ignorance concerning Horace that
prevailed in the Middle Ages. We have furnished one
or two glimpses into the scheme as self-expounded of
Dr. Moore. Further we may not go. The task of eluci-
dating his method and gauging its results must be left
to the student, to whom we commend the volume as one
of the most important and estimable of recent times.
Church Briefs, or Royal Warrants for Collections for
Charitable Object*. By Wyndham Anstis Bewes,
LL.B.Lond. (Black.)
SHORT, comparatively speaking, as is the time during
which, so far as practice is concerned, the Church brief
hag been obsolete, it is already an antiquity — a thing
which to the vast majority of living Englishmen is a
name and no more. Readers of ' N. & Q.' are in a
different category, and to them the significance of the
words stands in no need of explanation. The task of
collecting church briefs is, we are glad to see, beginning
to occupy seriously the attention of antiquaries. But
few days have elapsed since we drew attention to the
second part of ' Devonshire Briefs,' collected with equal
diligence and zeal by Dr. T. N. Bruehfield, one of the
most assiduous and erudite of Devon archaeologists. We
now find church briefs historically treated by a com-
petent scholar, and see the general public in a position
to estimate their nature, value, and significance. A full
explanation of the word " brief " in this connexion is
given in the ' New English Dictionary,' and may there
be consulted. The Papal brief, from which the church
brief takes its rise, is an authoritative letter of the Pope,
differing in many respects from a bull, of less authority,
and signed not by the Pontiff himself, but by the Segre-
tario dei Brevi, an officer of the Papal Chancery,
Further particulars concerning it may be sought in
Hook's ' Church Dictionary ' and in Mr. Bewes's volume.
As the latter is practically occupied with briefs sub-
sequent to the Reformation, t'-ere is no need to concern
ourselves with anything previous to that period. Be-
sides Papal briefs, for which the ' Glossary of Low
Latin ' ot Ducange may be consulted, briefs authorizing
collections in churches were issued in their respective
provinces and dioceses by archbishops and bishops, the
practice of so issuing them continuing so late as 16S3.
The Royal Letters authorizing collections for stated
purposes issued under the Great Seal were continued
until 1828, and there may be here or there one of our
readers who has heard them read in churches. A bishop's
brief, Mr. Bewes tells us, is still preserved among the
collections of broadsides in the possession of the Society
of Antiquaries. Letters Patent by the Crown were first
printed 25 Henry VIII. c. 21. Separate chapters in Mr.
Bewes's book are dedicated to church briefs in the reign
of Henry VIII. and Elizabeth, under James I. and
Charles 1., during the Commonwealth, and in the period
from the Restoration to 1828. Very various are the
subjects in behalf of which church briefs were issued.
At a time when fire insurance was unknown, a brief was*
a common way of furnishing relief to those who had
experienced losses by fire. Briefs were also granted for
the repair of havens, cathedrals, and churches, and for
the support of hospitals. Specially interesting from
the historical standpoint are those for the relief of
refugees or for the support of Protestants undergoing
various forms of persecution. The Domestic State
Papers constitute a mine, practically unworked, of
briefs of the time of the Commonwealth. With the
great collection for the Vaudois Protestants Mr. Bewes
is specially concerned, and he prides himself upon
having disproved the charge frequently brought against
Charles II. of having at the Restoration appropriated
to hie own use the balance of about 16,0002. of this noble
contribution then unspent. An animated account is
given (pp. 147-167) of the persecutions to which the
Vaudois were subject, familiar to Englishmen, if no-
where else, in the noble sonnet of Milton. By the
special command of Cromwell house-to-house collec-
tions were made. With these victims of fanaticism
were associated the distressed Protestants of Poland,
on whose behalf " exiles for the cause of Christ "
made appeal as delegates. To the joint fund Cromwell
himself as "a free gift" contributed 2,000^., a large
sum in those days. The total receipts were over
38,OOOJ. On Richard Cromwell is laid the responsi-
bility of ordering the payment out of the balance of
over 16,OOOJ. for "the expenses of the troops in Dun-
kirk, &c., and for the Council's contingencies." These
matters, the historical interest of which is very great,
must be studied in the volume. Another subject that
crops up frequently is the relief of captives taken by the
Salle and other corsairs of the African coast. Briefs
were issued also for distressed seamen or fishers, for
sufferers by the plague, and innumerable others, in-
cluding the wounded and the families of the killed at
Waterloo. Readers of Pepys are familiar with his
complaint, June 30, 1661 (Lord's Day), concerning the
multiplicity of briefs. The diarist notep, " To church,
where we observe the trade of briefs is come now up to
so constant a course every Sunday, that we resolve to
give no more to them." Cowper's allusions to briefs are
also familiar. Two facsimiles of briefs are given, one
of Queen Elizabeth dated 1560, by permission of the
Trustees of the British Museum, for the hospitals of
Bethlehem, Holywell, Woodstock, and Windsor; and one
dated 1703, from a printed copy in the City of London
Library, for the persecuted Protestants of the princi-
pality of Orange. We have left ourselves no space in
which to speak of the manner in which Mr. Bewes's
task has been carried out. In a first effort so important
and novel as this perfection is not to be expected, and the
author modestly appeals to his readers for additional in-
formation and the correction of errors. It is, however,
so far as we are aware, the most comprehensive list that
has seen the light. The arrangement is commendable,
and the work is a piece of sound, diligent, and intelli-
gent research.
80
NOTES AND QUERIES. [8»8.xLJii..2s,w.
Bygone Sussex. By William B. A. Axon. (Andrews
&Co.)
To the rapidly augmenting " Bygone Series " of Messrs.
Andrews & Co., which will shortly embrace half our
English counties, Mr. Axon has contributed an appro-
priately breezy account of bygone Sussex. Few English
counties are richer in historical associations than Sussex,
and few present spots more interesting and picturesque.
Enamoured of what he calls " the charm of the sea-
board and the down," Mr. Axon, a painstaking and trust-
worthy antiquary, has made large collections concerning
its history, associations, scenery, folk-lore, and literature.
Out of these he has selected the materials for his bright
and interesting volume, which will be read with pleasure
by the antiquary, and may well serve a more popular
purpose. He deals largely, as is but natural, with Rye
and Winchelsea, and furnishes many illustrations of
Thackeray's 'Denis Duval.' He collects the poetical
tributes which the beauties of Fairlight and other spots
have extorted ; gives tributes to faithful servants, with
which Mr. A. J. Munby will be gratified ; narrates the
doings of smugglers and highwaymen, including the
Westons; quotes legends, such as 'The Drummer of
Hurstmonceaux '; gives from the ' Polyolbion ' Dray-
ton's description of the county; deals with Pardon
brasses; and depicts all sorts of natural or artificial
curiosities and beauties. A few well-chosen illustrations
add to the attractions of the volume. So conscientious
a workman is Mr. Axon that we inquire without hesita-
tion who is responsible for slips such as " Shorham " for
Shoreham; five archbishops, on p. 4, when but four are
named; "Biddeford" for Bideford', and "Herstmori-
ceux " for Hursimonceaux.
Quotations for Occasions. Compiled by Katharine R.
Wood. (New York, Century Co.)
THIS is a clever and ingenious work, for which we have
no welcome. There is, says the preface, no such com-
pilation in existence. It is an attempt to lessen the
labour of search, and enable the reader to use appro-
priate quotations for menus, cards, invitations, &c. Now
the whole merit of these things consists in finding them
out for oneself, and simply to extract them from a work
such as this is as humiliating an occupation as coining
impromptus. We possess some admirable Shakspearean
menus by great American scholars. These show the
character, the modes of thought, and the quality of the
compiler. To take them at second-hand we regard as
completely unworthy; and the cleverer and more in-
genious this work is — and it is both clever and ingenious
— the less we like it.
Cairo Fifty Years Ago. By Edward William Lane,
Edited by Stanley Lane-Poole. (Murray.)
THIS work, which now for the first time sees the light,
is by the eminent author of ' The Modern Egyptians,'
and seems to have been at one time intended for inser-
tion in that work. It is now printed with a plan of
mediaeval Cairo, based upon Lane's original draft,
and is intended for the use of " the ever-increasing num-
ber of visitors to Cairo who are also students of its
history and antiquities." It has special interest as
depicting " with Lane's uncompromising accuracy the
characteristics and chief features of buildings of Cairo at
a time when Western innovations were almost unknown,"
and may safely be commended to those for whom it is
specially intended.
The Cathedral Church of Canterbury. (Bell & Sons.)
The Cathedral Church of Salisbury. (Same publishers.)
WE have here the two opening volumes of a series of
books on our great English cathedrals, edited by Mr.
Gleeson White, and known as " Bell's Cathedral Series."
They are intended to be popular, and are handsomely
illustrated. For the purpose at which they aim they are
admirably done, and there are few visitants to any of
our noble shrines who will not enjoy their visit the
better for being furnished with one of these delightful
books, which can be slipped into the pocket and carried
with ease, and is yet distinct and legible. With many
people, ourselves included, visiting cathedrals is a pas-
sion, and there is not one edifice of the kind in England
to which we have not made a pious pilgrimage. A
volume such as that on Canterbury is exactly what we
want, and on our next visit hope to have it with us. It
is thoroughly helpful, and the views of the fair city and
its noble cathedral are beautiful. Both volumes, more-
over, will serve more than a temporary purpose, and are
trustworthy as well as delightful.
Norse Tales and Sketches. By Alexander L. Kielland.
Translated by R. L. Cassie. (Stock.)
THIS volume will serve to introduce to English readers
yet one more Norse writer, a theorist like most of the
hyperboreans, but also a humourist of the first water.
We chuckle over the description of the German doctor,
"with an overgrown light red beard, and that Sedan
smile which invariably accompanies the Germain in
Paris." We can pay these sketches— some of them
strange enough — no higher compliment than in saying
we are reminded at times of Heine.
PART VIII. of Mr. Quaritch's Contributions towards a
Dictionary of English Book-Collectors deals with the
libraries of James Lenox, Edward Fitzgerald, John
Percy, and Robert S. Turner, the last-named the finest
collection of books in its way that we have seen. A
sale of Turner's of 774 volumes brought over 161. each.
That collection we did not know, though with that in
the Albany, where poor Turner assembled the best-
known .bibliophiles, we were very familiar. Turner's
books Mr. Quaritch estimates cost him 20,000/., and
were sold for 30,00(M. A long letter of Mr. Gladstone's
to Mr. Quaritch is reprinted in facsimile. Dr. Percy,
whose library we also knew well, was more a collector of
prints than of books.
Miss JESSIE MIDDLETON promises, at an early date,
an edition of the poetical works of James Clarence
Mangau.
Stotos to C0ms£0ntaK
We mutt call special attention to the following notices:
ON all communications must be written the name and
address of the sender, not necessarily for publication, but
as a guarantee of good faith.
WE cannot undertake to answer queries privately.
To secure insertion of communications correspondents
must observe the following rule. Let each note, query,
or reply be written on a separate slip of paper, with the
signature of the writer and such address as he wishes to
appear. Correspondents who repeat queries are requested
to head the second communication " Duplicate."
CARI-OX ("Brick").— Consult «N. E. D.' Some con-
tributors seem unaware of the progress that has been
made with that national work.
NOTICE.
Editorial Communications should be addressed to "The
Editor of ' Notes and Queries ' " — Advertisements and
Business Letters to "The Publisher" — at the Office,
Bream's Buildings, Chancery Lane, E.G.
We beg leave to state that we decline to return com-
munications which, for any reason, we do not print; and
to this rule we can make no exception.
8.hS.xi.jAN.3o,'97.] NOTES AND QUERIES.
81
LONDON, SATURDAY, JANUARY 30, 1697.
CONTENTS.— N° 266.
NOTES :-Heraldic Supporters of English Sovereigns, 81-
Secretarv Thurloe— ' Dictionary of National Biography,
83-Iir Franc van Halen, 84-Holy Water-Rev. J. Tun-
stall DD —Circumlocution — Provincial Pronunciation,
l5_«.6amble"=="Bet"-Poem by Mary Stuart-Pie
Corner— Relics of Montrose— Slang Phrase— James I., 86.
QUERIES — " Free Lance"— Sharp's ' Bishoprick Garland'
—County Families— Arms— Leech — Beaumont College—
du Chesne-Motto-Emerald Star-Sir H. Cal-
a
verlev— Burke, 87-Early Steam Navigation— Shakspeanan
Interrogative— Knights of St. Lazarus—' Vicar of Wake-
field '—Pope Joan — Chamberlayne — Inscription — " The
Justice," 88— Arabic Star Names— John Woolward— ' For-
tune-teller '— Waldershare— Authors Wanted, 89.
REPLIES :— Eagles Captured at Waterloo, 89— Shelta, 90—
" Coronation Memorial Mugs— Misquotations— ' The Sailor's
Grave '—Col. Stuart— J. Gr. Whittier, 91— Proclamation of
Lancaster Fair—" Parson's nose"— Browning as a Preacher,
92— Portrait of Earl of Oxford— Westchester— " With"—
" Gurges"— " Parliament," 93— Hertford Street, Mayfair—
Jewish Medals — Rachel de la Pole— Comb in Church
Ceremonies—" Jenky and Jenny "—Shrine of St. Cuthbert,
94— Religious Dancing— "Hear, hear !"— Dulany— Church-
wardens, 95 — " Cocktail " — Mont-de-pi6t6 — Landguard
Fort, 96— Church of Scotland — Funeral Customs, 97—
Authors Wanted, 98.
NOTES ON BOOKS : — Gibbon's 'Autobiographies' and
•Private Letters ' — Rosen's 'Napoleon's Opera Glass'—
Lang's ' Pickle the Spy '—Stevenson and Henley's ' Deacon
Brodie' — Harward's ' Hereward' — 'LSt. Bartholomew's
Hospital Reports.'
Notices to Correspondents.
HERALDIC SUPPORTERS OP ENGLISH
SOVEREIGNS.
(See8 S. ix. 228, 477.)
From the lists given by your correspondents it
will be seen that hardly any two authorities are
agreed upon what were the correct supporters used
by the English sovereigns. In all probability
this divergence arises from the fact that in a good
many instances the sovereign changed his or her
supporters from time to time, and adopted others,
derived, it may be, from matrimonial alliances, or
as being the family badge of either himself or of
his consort.
Perhaps it may be useful if I give a summary
of what has been contributed by your correspond-
ents, from which your readers will be able to see
at a glance, I think, what were the various sup-
porters used from time to time by our reigning
families, and the authorities for the same. To
these authorities I have added two later ones.
These may be stated as follows : —
1. Clark's * Heraldry ' (1818), cited by COL.
HARCOURT.
2. FATHER 0. H. BLAIR, who supplements and
varies 1.
3. Echard's * England' (1718), cited by COL.
PITCHER. It does not appear from what early
heraldic authority or source Echard compiled his
list.
4. Berry's 'Encyclopedia Heraldica,' cited by
MR. COLEMAN, who supplements and varies 1. I
take it that both FATHER BLAIR and MR. COLE-
MAN, when they are silent, agree with 1.
The two following authorities — the only ones I
an refer to here — I add myself.
5. Aveling's ' Heraldry ' (1891), which contains
a list of royal supporters, taken no doubt from
Boutell's 'Heraldry' (1864?), upon which work
Mr. Aveling's book is founded.
6. Dr. Woodward's ' Heraldry : English and
Foreign '(1896).
I have just received the new and extended
edition of this, which I think I may venture to
call the most important heraldic work of modern
times, which from the excellence of its drawing,
blazonry, and general typographical details leaves
nothing to be desired, and is deserving of the
highest praise to author and publisher alike.
If I may be allowed for a moment to pass a
hyper- criticism upon it, I would Bay that I regret
that its learned author has not thought fit to give
more examples from English armory of the various
blazonings and illustrations of his shields and
charges, for there are many instances to hand. I
cannot help thinking that, whilst the arrangement
of the plates is so much better than in Boutell, the
foreign element is in the particulars I have alluded
to somewhat too pronounced for the generality of
English students of heraldry, who would have pre-
ferred, I fancy, to have seen more examples taken
from their own nobiles. Further, I would say
that it would be an addition to the general useful-
ness of the book (particularly when used as a work
of reference) if, instead of the pagination in the
centre of each page, the title of the chapter was
repeated. As it is, even when you know the
book, it makes too frequent a reference to the
index necessary, and this (especially when the
index is contained in one of the two volumes only,
as it is here) means a certain waste of time.
I make these remarks, however, with some diffi-
dence, as I have not had the opportunity as yet
of making more than a very cursory perusal of this
important work.
1. Edward III. — Lion* and eagle, 1, 2, 4. Lion
and falcon, 2, 5, 6. COL. PITCHER (3) states that
Edward III. and all previous sovereigns bore their
arms without supporters. All the other authorities,
however, take this sovereign as being the first to
use them. Dr. Woodward states (vol. ii. p. 324)
that " the early ones are doubtful, and do not
appear on the great seals."
2. Richard II.— Two white harts, 2,5,6 (?). Lion
and hart, 2, 4. Two antelopes, 2. Two angels,
3, 6. White hart and white falcon, 6. COL. HAR*
COURT (1) gives no supporters for this sovereign.
* Where no othei1 tincture of the lion is specified in
this list it may be taken to be the golden liou of England.
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[8* S. XI. JAN. 30, '9?.
3. Henry IV. — White antelope and white swan,
1, 4. Swan and antelope, 3. Lion and antelope,
5. Swan, 5. Lion and white antelope (of Bohun),
6. Dr. Woodward (6) also states that before hia
accession Henry IV. used two swans ; whilst MR.
BLAIR (2) says that the authority as to his sup-
porters is very doubtful.
4. Henry V. — Lion and antelope, 1, 2 (?), 4, 5.
Crowned lion and antelope, 3, 6.
5. Henry VI. — Lion and antelope, 1, 2, 6. Two
white antelopes, 2, 3, 5, 6. Antelope and leopard,
4. Lion and panther or antelope, 5. Lion and
tiger or panther (of Beaufort), 6.
6. Edward IV.— Lion and black bull (of Clare),
1, 2, 3, 6, 6. Bull and lion, 2, 4. Lion and
white hart, 2, 4, 5 (?). Two white lions (of March),
4, 5, 6.
7. Edward V. — A yellow and a white lion, 1.
Lion and white hind, 2, 4, 5. Lion and cow or
doe, 3. White lion and white hind, 6.
8. Eichard III. — Yellow lion and white boar,*
1, 2, 4, 5, 6. Two white boars, 2, 3, 5, 6.
9. Henry VII.— Lion and red dragon, 1, 5, 6.
Two white greyhounds, 2, 5, 6. Dragon and grey-
hound, 2, 3, 4, 5. Dr. Woodward (6) also gives
"the red dragon of Wales. A white greyhound
(Neville or Lancaster)," as if borne as single sup-
porters, but probably there is a typographical
error, and they are intended to represent the dexter
and sinister supporters, as in the above instances.
FATHER BLAIR states that he has " never seen a
lion."
10. Henry VIII. — Lion and greyhound, 1, 2, 4.
Dragon and greyhound, 2, 6. Lion and dragon,
3, 4, 6. Two white greyhounds, 6. Antelope and
stag, 6. Mr. Aveling (5) also gives " a lion or and
a dragon gules," and then adds, somewhat loosely,
" and sometimes a bull, a greyhound, or a cock,
all argent." I presume he means, in each case, as
a sinister supporter to the lion of England.
11. Edward VI. — Lion and dragon, 2, 5, 6.
Crowned lion and dragon, 3, 4. Lion and grey-
hound, 6. COL. HARCOURT (1) gives no supporters
for this sovereign.
12. Mary. — Lion and greyhound, 1, 2, 5, 6.
Lion and dragon, 2, 5, 6. Eagle and crowned lion,
3. MR. COLEMAN (4) states that Mary bore the
same supporters as Edward VI. (but does not state
which), but on her marriage with Philip of Spain
* See ' N. & Q.,' 8th S. ix. 267, 331, 358, as to the origin
of the white boar used as a badge by Richard III.
Surely MB. CASS must be mistaken when he gays (p. 331)
that Richard III. adopted this badge in right of hia wife
Anne Neville, daughter of the Earl of Warwick, and
cites Burke's ' General Armory ' for the statement that
"the device of Richard's queen was a white boar, chained
and muzzled gold, an ancient cognizance of the house of
Warwick." Should not this read bear, instead of " boar '
Tbe bear and ragged staff was the well-known device of
Earls of Warwick.
placed an eagle on the dexter and removed the lion
bo the sinister side.
13. Elizabeth. — Lion and greyhound, 1, 2, 5, 6.
Lion and dragon, 2, 5, 6. Crowned lion and dragon,
3, 4. Dragon and greyhound, 6. Antelope and
stag, 6.
14. James I. — All the authorities agree in accord-
ing to this sovereign, on his ascending the English
throne in 1603, the lion of England and the silver
unicorn of Scotland, which supporters have been
continued to the present day. Dr. Woodward,
however, states (p. 326) that instances of other
supporters are to be met with, and gives examples
from the Exchequer and other seals.
Dr. Woodward's book is not only of considerable
value in thus furnishing a trustworthy list of Eng-
lish royal supporters, but, as might be expected
from the title, deals largely with foreign ones.*
With his assistance, I think, COL. HARCOCRT
may be able to solve most of the questions he has
submitted, and will find that he is not correct
when he says (at the earlier reference) that "the
kings of France and Spain apparently had no sup-
porters."
According to our latest authority, the supporters
of the royal arms in France in modern times were
two angels habited in albs, over which are dalmatics
charged with the royal arms, andf holding banners
of the same ; and he gives a list of the French royal
supporters as borne by the earlier sovereigns, which
vary as much as those of our own royal houses, but
states that these were not borne to the exclusion
of the angels, which were common to all the kings
after Charles VII. — indeed, Louis XIV. and his suc-
cessors used no others. This latter fact curiously
coincides with the modern practice in respect
of English royal supporters, where there has been
practically no change since the union of the Eng-
lish and Scottish crowns on the accession of James I.
in 1603. Dr. Woodward is careful to add that the
use of angel supporters was not, as is sometimes
asserted, a prerogative of the royal house in France,
and he instances several French families who use
them.
Apropos of angel supporters, I have in my pos-
session a ring of antique workmanship and some-
what ecclesiastical in style (which I obtained in
Oxford nearly thirty years ago), upon which is
shown a long sharp- pointed plain shield, supported
by two angels, the dexter holding what may be a
mallet, and the sinister what looks something like
a boxing-glove. I cannot say for certain of what
metal it is composed, but it is a hard white one,
heavier, I think, than silver, and has been gilded
over. Can it be an old memorial emblem ? I
shall be glad of any information enabling me to
trace the origin or purport of this ring.
I gather, moreover, from the above authority
* See hia chapter on "Supporters," vol. ii. pp. 271-98,
S. XI. JAN. 30, '97.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
83
that the use of supporters also obtained in early
days in Spain, Italy, and Germany, both by royalty
and by untitled gentlemen, though the use of sup-
porters by these latter is not nearly so restricted as
with us. It is well known, however, that there are
not infrequent instances amongst the untitled
gentry of England of a right to supporters derived
by prescription or by special grant, though nowadays
it is but seldom, I imagine, that a right to use sup-
porters would be granted to any one of a degree
lower than a peer holding a courtesy title, or, may
be, members of the higher grades of our principal
orders.
Dr. Woodward states (p. 285) : —
"In Spain the infrequency of the use of supporters
by the high nobility is probably due to the fact that
the regulations of the Order of the Golden Fleece per-
mitted no supporters, and only one crested helm to a shield
surrounded by the collar of the Order. In Italy the use
of supporters was very infrequent in late mediaeval times,
and is still very far from general. In Germany their use
is somewhat more in accordance with our own, but the
fashion of placing the arms of princes and counts of the
empire on the breast of an eagle displayed is still not
unfrequently seen."
Again, at p. 275 : —
"r" Probably that which contributed most to the general
adoption of a single supporter was the use by the German
Emperor of the eagle displayed, bearing on its breast hig
personal arms, a fashion early adopted by his kinsmen and
feudatories."
F» This fashion exists at the present day too, for
the national arms of the German Empire are still
borne on the breast of the Imperial eagle displayed
as a single supporter.
I think the above will satisfy COL. HARCOURT
as to his query whether supporters were used by
the Emperors of Germany in the Middle Ages.
The arms of the United States of America affords
another modern instance in point of a single sup-
porter, where the shield is borne on the breast
of the American eagle displayed.
With reference to COL. HARCOURT'S final ques-
tion, I should say that there can be no precedent
or authority for the Scottish unicorn appearing as
the dexter supporter to the royal arms, either in
Scotland or elsewhere. J. S. UDAL.
Fiji.
SECRETARY THURLOE.
The following account of the death of John
Thurloe, Cromwell's Secretary of State, is from
the papers of Philip, Lord Wharton, amongst the
Carte MSS. in the Bodleian Library, vol. Ixxx.
p. 782. It is endorsed in Lord Wharton's hand,
" Extract of a letter writt of the circumstances of
the death of Mr. Thurlow ; and the last words I
heard him speak." The Col. Jones referred to was
probably Thurloe's old colleague Philip Jones.
" Feb. 21, 1667.— My worthy ffreind Mr. Thurlow died
about four a clocke in the afternoone ; he was in a good
moderate state of health to all apprehensions. That
morning hee had taken a gentle lenitive, which wrought
accordingly with him. About 3 a clocke hee dined with
his ordinary appetite (Collonell Jones sitteing by him).
After hee had eaten his Physick gave him occasion to
desire the Coll: to stepp into his Clossett, and the
occasion being over hee desired the Coll to come in
againe, and walking with him towards the window the
Coll. observed him to reele, as if hee were ready to fall,
and hee catch't hold of him to support him, but hee
never spoke word but immediately died. Now that I
have given this accompt of that excellent person, which
I know will affect you, lett mee adde the very last words
which ever I heard him speake, which are to mee matter
of great comfort when I consider that by the rules of
Charrity I have warrant to judge that hee was in a fitt
frame of heart for death. The day seven-night before
hee dyed hee gave mee and a Doctor of Physicke in the
company a large account of the great fitt of the stone
hee had about a moneth agoe, and of the exquisite paine
hee then had, and how it was drawne from him after 50
houres stoppage of his water, in which fitt hee had the
sentence of death in him selfe, and freinds & physitiaus
about him were of the same opinion. The Doctor being
gone wee had some further discourse, and most abouc
the things of God & his people, when wee were about to
part I told him where I meant to be on the next Lord's
Day, and asked him if hee would be there ; I, saith hee
willingly, except such a one preach and break bread, and
then, said hee, I intend to bee with him, for hee presseth
hard after nearer communion with God & helps others
much therein; and at our very parteing the last words
hee said to mee were to this effect, ' I would not for any-
thing have been without this late providence. I know the
worst of death, & it is nothing for mee to die.' "
0. H. FIRTH.
'DICTIONARY OF NATIONAL BIOGRAPHY':
NOTES AND CORRECTIONS.
(See 6t» s. xi. 105, 443 ; xii. 321 ; 7* S. i. 25, 82, 342,
376; ii. 102, 324, 355; iii. 101, 382; iv. 123, 325, 422 ;
v. 3, 43, 130, 362, 463, 506; vii. 22, 122, 202, 402 ; viii.
123, 382; ix. 182, 402 ; x. 102 ; xi. 162, 242, 342 ; xii.
102 ; 8«> S. i. 162, 348, 509 ; ii. 82, 136, 222, 346, 522 ;
iii. 183; iv. 384; v.82, 284, 504; vi. 142, 383; vii. 102;
viii. 63, 203, 443 ; ix. 263; x. 110, 210.)
Vol. XLVIII.
P. 1 a. For " bought by " read intended for.
P. 15. James Eennell. See Mat hi as, 'P. of
L.,' p. 360.
P. 30 b. For " Moysey " read Moyser.
P. 40. Bp. Edw. Reynolds. On his 'Passions
and Faculties of the Soul,' am. 4to., Lond,, 1640,
see Oldham, * Boileau,' viii. ; he wrote an epistle
for W. Bailee's ' Predestination/ 1656, and pref.
for Hibbert's 'Body of Divinity,' 1662; his
funeral sermon in Norwich Cathedral, by B. Bively,
4to., 1677. For "Bramston"? Braunston.
Pp. 41-2. Frederic Reynolds. See Mathias,
1 P. of L.,' p. 79 ; Gifford, ' Baviad and Maeviad.'
P. 42. F. M. Reynolds. On his ' Miserrimus '
see ' N.-& Q.,' 5"1 S. xi.; xii. 291.
Pp. 53-67. Sir J. Reynolds. See Mafchias, * P. of
L.,' p. 237 ; Cowper>s ' Task ' (" Sofa ").
Pp. 108-110. Chr. Rich. See Curll's 4 Miscel-
lanea/ 1727, i. 18.
P. 122 b. For " Carey" read Gary.
84
NOTES AND QUERIES. [8«s.xi.jAH.8o,w.
P. 132 b. line 17. Correct press.
P. 143. Richard I. On his heart see ' N, & Q.,
4 s, vii.
P. 151 a. " As good or a better position than" ?
P. 173 b. "NunBurnham." Nunburnholme.
P. 229. John Richardson, Quaker. See Wight,
« Quakers in Ireland,' 1751 ; ' Collection of Testi-
monies,' 1760, pp. 143-5; Ross, Yorkshire
Wolds'; Budge, 'Thomas Elwood, and other
Worthies.'
P. 235 a. For " Ingold wells " read Ingoldmells.
P. 238. Jonathan Richardson. See Gray, by
Mason, 1827, p. 236.
P. 240 b. "From a seedling he planted a
cedar "?
Pp. 251-2. Dr. William Richardson, Master of
Emmanuel Coll., Camb., preached before the
House of Commons, at St. Margaret's, 30 Jan.,
1764, on St. Matt. xxii. 21, printed Lond., 4to.,
1764.
P. 258. Legh Richmond. One of his daughters
was the mother of Sir James Marshall (q.v.), who
joined the Church of Rome. His exposure of
Anne Moore of Tutbury (q.v.), 1813, see Simms,
' Bibl. Staff.' ; see also ' Three Days at Turvey, by
a Clergyman's Son,' South Shields, 1848 ; ' Life of
W. Wilberforce ' ; ' Life of J. Pratt,' p. 88 ; ' Life
of Tho. Jones,' pp. 136, 344; Olphar Hamst,
« Fict. Names,' pp. 212-3.
P. 277. John Rider. A notice of him in the
preface to Ains worth's 'Latin Dictionary.'
Pp. 283-4. Humphrey Ridley. See Garth,
' Dispensary,' canto v.
P. 289. Bp. Ridley. See Ascham's ' Letters ' ;
Wordsworth, ' Eccl. Biog.'
Pp. 302-4. Richard Rigby. His letters in
' N. & Q.,' 1st S. vii.
P. 307. Tho. Riley, actor. Randolph's ' Poems,'
1668, pp. 343, 348. Not mentioned.
Pp. 328-9. Ritson. See Mathias, ' P. of L.,'
p. 100.
P. 337. Rivington. Mathias, ' P. of L.,' p. 181.
P. 362. Robert of Newminster. See 'New-
minster Chartulary,' Surtees Soc.
P. 375 a. Line 6 from foot, "To which they
turned over." To what, and how ?
P. 378 b. " Cannon Liddon."
P. 388 b, line 8. For " certified" read issued or
granted.
P. 398 a, line 13 from foot. A man who was not
born till 1806 could not marry the granddaughter
of a man who died in 1690.
P. 398 b. " Ryle," ? Kyloe.
P. 433. Robin of Redesdale. See ' N. & Q./
8* S. viii. W. C. B.
SIR FRANC VAN HALEN, K.G.— Readers of
Froissart (tomes ii. and iii.) are acquainted with
the exploits of Sir Franc de Halle or van Hale,
a foreign soldier much employed and honoured by
King Edward III. It is known that he was
appointed by the king a Knight of the Order of
the Garter soon after its foundation, being thirty-
fourth on the roll ; Beltz, in his history of the
Order (pp. 122-127), can give little information
concerning him. So little, indeed, was known
about him in the sixteenth century that he was
appropriated as an ancestor by the compiler of the
pedigree of the family of Hall, of Northall, in
Shropshire ('Visitation of Shropshire,' Harl. Soc.,
vol. i. p. 245). As Edward Hall, the chronicler,
was a member of this family, and all the more as
his name appears in this pedigree, we have some
reason to suspect that he unscrupulously "annexed"
the hero, about whom he clearly knew nothing
more than Froissart told him. Confusing the
Flemish van with the German von, he supplied
the knight with a father, Albert, Archduke of
Austria and King of the Romans. Then, to fit him
for his position in the pedigree, he bestowed on him
a wife and children — nay, children's children for
four generations— till the chain was hooked on to
his own great-grandfather, David Hall, of Northall.
Vincent passed the pedigree without due investiga-
tion. One thing still remained to be done. Perhaps
the knight's armorial bearings had never been
affixed to his stall at St. George's, Windsor ; cer-
tainly they could not have been there when this
bogus pedigree was fabricated, for a coat of arms
was also invented and put up on the knight's stall
— Gu., a wyvern, wings elevated, crowned or,
pendent from the neck an escocheon of the field,
thereon an eagle displayed with two heads argent,
all within a bordure azure, charged with six lioncels
rampant and as many fleurs-de-lis alternately of
the second— just such a coat as at that time would
have been invented and received without suspicion,
and there the spurious thing remains to this day.
Modern research has, however, exposed the fictitious
nature of the pedigree foisted on the College of
Arms. It has also thrown a good deal of light on
the true history of Sir. Franc van Halen. The
principal authorities made use of in this note are
the archives of the city of Malines and Ghent,
'Het klooster Teu Walle en de Abdij van den
Groenen Briel,' by V. van den Haeghen, and State
Papers in the Record Office, London.
John de Mirabello, dit van Halen, was by
descent a Lombard. He was Receiver-General of
Brabant and Sire de Perwes. He died immensely
rich in 1333. He had several children. The eldest
was Sir Simon, who at his death in 1346 was
Ruward or Governor of Brabant. He left no male
issue. The second son was Sir Franc, who for
many years was in the service of Edward III.,
besides holding the position of a powerful
nobleman in Brabant ; his name is frequently
mentioned in Brabant chronicles and histories ;
he had three wives (neither, of course, being
the mythical lady given in the Northall pedigree),
S. XI. JAK. 30, '97.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
85
and he bad several sons (not one of whom bore
the names of the two sons attributed to him by
Vincent). His descendants still exist, and can be
traced. Besides being a Knight of the Garter, he
was also created a knight banneret. He died in
1375, and was honoured by the city of Malines
with a public funeral, while a fine monument was
erected to his memory at the expense of the
city. The remains of this are still to be
seen in Malines Cathedral ; it is, however,
unfortunately, much mutilated, and all traces
of armorial bearings have disappeared. From
the archives of the city of Malines it can be
proved that his son Sir Andrew bore Gu, a lion
rampant or, armed, langued, and crowned az. But
quite lately there has been found in the Record
Office, London, Sir Franc's own seal of arms
appended to a receipt for money paid for military
service rendered to Edward III., and dated 1348.
The arms are the same as those of his son, with a
label of three points, showing that he derived
them from his father, Sir John. The legend is
s . FRANCONIS . BE . MiRABELLo. The name
Mirabello gradually fell out of use, and Halen, a
fief, either brought into the family by marriage or
purchased in the thirteenth century, became the
usual family name. One branch, descended from
Sir Franc and holding a high position in Antwerp
in the sixteenth century, continued to use both
names. Surely now the true arms are known
and authenticated, steps should be taken to place
them on Sir Franc van Halen's stall and to
remove the fictitious plate. It is a matter for the
Garter King to consider. It may be well to note
that, while Halen is the correct name, Hale and
Halle were often used, possibly owing to the fact
that in Flemish the final n is not sounded at all,
or very slightly. A. W. CORNELIUS HALLEN.
THE USE OP HOLY WATER IN THE ANGLICAN
CHURCH. — The ceremony known in the Catholic
Church as "the Asperges," or the sprinkling of
the congregation with holy water before the High
Mass, has recently been introduced at St. Alban's,
(Holborn, London (27 Sept., 1896). As I believe
this is the only instance, so far, of the revival of
this ancient pre- Reformation ceremony in any
Anglican church, it may be of interest to note it
in the pages of < 1ST. & Q.' The ceremony at St.
Alban's Church is identical with that at the Pro
Cathedral and at every other Catholic church
where High Mass is celebrated.
FREDZ. T. HIBGAME.
THE REV. JAMES TUNSTALL, D.D. — James
Tunstall, son of James Tunstall, attorney, of
Richmondshire, was born in Richmond, Yorkshire,
and bred at Slaidburn, under Mr. Bradbury, until
his admission, 29 June, 1724 (then aged past six-
teen), as sizar of St. John's College, Cambridge.
He graduated B,A. 1727, a.nd proceeded M.A.
1731, B.D. 1738, and D.D. 1744. Dr. Tunstall
was fellow and tutor of his college, Public Orator
at Cambridge 1741, chaplain to Archbishop Potter,
Treasurer and Canon Residentiary of St. David's,
and Vicar of Rochdale, Lancashire, 1757. His
writings are distinguished for great learning and
critical acumen. His death is thus recorded in
the London Chronicle, Tuesday, 30 March, to Thurs-
day, 1 April, 1762, p. 306 : " On Sunday died, at
his brother's house in Mark-Lane, the Rev. James
Tunstall, D.D. He lately came to town from
Leicestershire to visit his brother." Nichols
('Lit. Anec.,' 1812, ii. 167 note), Chalmers,
Darling, and the rest of Dr. Tunstall's biographers
are in error regarding the dates of his birth and
death. He was not born "about the year 1710,"
nor did he die "in 1772." In view of the
statement appearing in Whitaker's ' History of
Whalley,' ii. 429 note, that the place of Dr. Tun-
stall's interment has never been discovered, it may
be noted that an entry in the parish register of
St. Peter, Cornhill, London, records his burial in
the chancel of that church, under date 2 April,
1762. DANIEL HIPWELL.
CIRCUMLOCUTION. —I noted down the following
fine periphrasis for "I don't know," spoken recently
by an official witness in answering a question
before a Select Committee of the House of
Commons: "The honourable member is direct-
ing inquiry into matters as to which personal
cognizance on my part is a matter of impossibility."
HERBERT MAXWELL.
PROVINCIAL PRONUNCIATION. — I am not a
philologist, but I have often wondered whether
any value attaches to local pronunciation for deter-
mining the derivation of words or their phonetic
worth in Middle English. The West Yorkshire
dialect presents some peculiarities which may be
of interest. Take, for instance, six words in which
a long i is the dominant sound — night, right,
might, lie (down), find, sky. These are repre-
sented in the West Riding by six different sounds,
becoming respectively neet, rate, mud (u sounded
a<? oo in hood), lig,finnd (to rhyme with s&wn'd),and
skah. Mud is, I believe, wholly irregular, as also
lig (though we say jlig for fledge), the form rate
(which sometimes becomes red), is not very
common, tliough we say fate for fight (past par-
ticiple fuffen), and 'ay for high. The rule seems
to be that a long i is represented by a short one,
as in find, grind, blind, or ee, as in night, lie (fib),
fly, die, &c., or it is broadened out into ah, as in
mind, kind, tight, &c. The pronunciation seems
to have altered very little since the Towneley
Mysteries' were written in this neighbourhood
same four or five hundred years ago, although many
words have fallen into disuse since that time. I
believe that the works of Richard Rolle, written
before 1349 in the West Riding of Yorkshire,
NOTES AND QUERIES. [8* s. xi. JAN. 30, '97.
would be much more easily understood by general
readers than a story written in the West York-
shire dialect of to-day. E. 8. A.
" GAMBLE "=" BET. "—The other day I heard
a costermonger say to a cab-driver, u I Ml get up
this hill, I '11 gamble." The road which he pro
posed to go up was steep and covered with snow
and ice. S. 0. ADDY.
POEM BY MARY, QUEEN OP SCOTS. — The
question was asked some time ago, and I think
has received no answer, where Queen Mary's verses
on the death of her first husband are to be found.
They are printed in Brantome's ' Dames Illustres
— Discours III.,' in ' Me*moires Historiquea,'
Ixiii. p. 257. They are given also, with an English
translation by M. P. Andrews, in the ' Annual
Register/ 1789, p. 158.
EDWARD H. MARSHALL, M.A.
Hastings.
PIE CORNER. (See 3rd S. viii. 292.)— At this
reference a correspondent suggests that this name
may possibly be derived from the French term
pied cornier, which he states was used in our old
forest nomenclature for a boundary tree. As this
suggestion seems to have escaped the notice of
recent writers on London, I venture to draw atten-
tion to it as affording a reasonable explanation of
the name. Perhaps some correspondent may be
able to corroborate the statement that the term is
used in English works on forestry. On referring
to Littre, s.v., I find that as a " terme d'eaux et
forets" pied cornier signifies "1'arbre qu'on laisse
a 1'extremite d'un heritage, d'un arpentage, pour
servir de marque." We know that the campus
planus of Smithfield was overgrown with elms in
early days, and it may well have been that the
furthermost of these, which marked the boundary
of the field, may have been known as the pied
cornier. French expressions were in not uncommon
use in London in early times : Leaden Hall, for
instance, was known as the Salle de Plomb, and
the Carfukes, which marked the parting of the four
ways, was identical with the French carrefour.
Perhaps some early quotation for the term pied
cornier may be found, though I have failed to dis-
cover it in Riley's ( Memorials of London ' or in
Dr. Sharpe's * Calendar of Husting Wills.'
W. F. PRIDEAUX.
RELICS OF THE MARQUIS OF MONTROSE. —
Perhaps the following interesting information
deserves preservation in * N. & Q.' : —
" At the first meeting for the present winter session
of the Society of Antiquaries of Scotland, held in Edin-
burgh, one of the papers read waa a notice by Mr. J. W.
Morkill, M.A., of a human hand and forearm pierced
•with nail-holes, and a baaket-hilted sword, formerly
preserved in the family of Graham of Woodhall, York-
shire, and considered as relics of the famous Marquis of
Montrose. The sword bears on both sides of the blade,
immediately below the hilt, the quartered coat of arms
of Montrose and the date 1570 damascened in gold.
The arm is in a mummified condition, and has evidently
never been interred. A hole through the centre of the
hand, and a second through the fleshy part of the arm
near the elbow, are suggestive of the limb having been
affixed to aome gate or post, as it was customary to thus
expose the severed limbs of those executed for high
treason. It ia known that the arms of Montrose were
affixed to the ports of Dundee and Aberdeen, and it is
on record that during the time of the Commonwealth
all limbs thus affixed in different places in Scotland
were taken down by the English or with their permis-
sion. This is confirmed by the records of Aberdeen as
regards one of the arms of Montrose, which was taken
down and interred in Lord Huntly's vault till 1661, when
it was disinterred and sent to Edinburgh to be reunited
to the other members for the public funeral which was
accorded ' the murdered Marquis ' after the Restora-
tion. There is, however, no record of the arm that had
been exposed at Dundee, and a possible explanation of
the presence of an arm of the Marquis in Yorkshire is
suggested by the fact that a Cromwellian officer of the
name of Pickering was settled there, and that the arm
is traced to the possession of a Dr. Pickering in the
beginning of the last century, or within a few years of
the death of the officer referred to, The arm has been
submitted to Sir William Turner, Professor of Anatomy
in the University of Edinburgh, who testified that the
hand is not that of a big man, or one accustomed to
manual labour, and that there is nothing in its appear-
ance irreconcilable with the view that it may be the
arm of the Marquis of Montrose."
HENRY GERALD HOPE.
Ckpham, S.W.
ANTIQUITY OF A SLANG PHRASE. — We some-
times say in joke, not unfreqnently with a flavour
of irony, " He must have got up very early in the
morning to have known that." Very likely the
phrase has a long pedigree of distinguished ancestors
through many generations, but I have never till
to-day met with it or its like in literature, and I
think it may be worth while to give a niche in
* N. & Q.' to a very early ancestor.
Guillaume de Guileville, in his ' Pe"lerinage de
Jesu Christ,' circa 1350, apostrophizes the woman
who cried, " Blessed is the womb that bare thee,
and the paps which thou hast sucked " (Luke
xi. 27).
Hee femme estrange, qui es tu 1
Comment et a quoy congnois tu
La mere de ce pelerin?
De bonne heure tes au matin
Huy leuee, quant le cognois
Au parlement et a la voix.
ALDENHAM.
JAMES I. AND His " ONE DARLING PLEASURE."
— At the Michaelmas Term, 22 Jac.,
"Two Men came Ore Tenus into the Star-Chamber,
for stealing of the King's Deer, and were fined an 100J.
apiece, and three years Imprisonment, unless it would
please the King to release them sooner, and before they
should be released of their Imprisonment to be bound to
their good Behaviour : And it was observed by the
Attorney-general that the Offence was the greater, in
regard that the King had but one Darling Pleasure, and
yet they would offend him in that : And it was said by
8" 8. XI. JAN. 30, '97.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
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some of the Court that it was a great folly and madness
in the Defendants to hazard themselves in such a manner
for a thing of so small value as a Deer was. The Lord-
President said, that Mr. Attorney was the best Keeper
the King had of his Parks, in regard he brings the
Offenders into this Court to be punished : The Lord
Keeper said, that the Defendants in such a Case being
brought Ore tenus are not allowed to speak by their
Council, and yet these Men have had their Council, but it
was Peter's Counsellors, meaning, their sorrow and Con-
trition at the Bar, which much moved him so that if his
Vote might prevail he would set but 201. Fine upon
them."— Sir John Popham's Reports, ed. 1682, p. 152.
KICHARD H. THORNTON.
Portland, Oregon.
We must request correspondents desiring information
on family matters of only private interest to affix their
names and addresses to their queries, in order that the
answers may be addressed to them direct.
" FREE LANCE."— I should be glad to know
what is the history of this designation, applied by
recent writers to the condottieri of the Middle
Ages, and now often used figuratively. The
earliest instance I have is dated 1855 (Miss Yonge's
' Lances of Lynwood '). The term must be older
than that date ; but I doubt whether it goes very
far back. If it is in Scott I have failed to dis-
cover it, though he has " free companion " in the
same sense. Is there any approximately literal
equivalent for "free lance" in any continental
language? HENRY BRADLEY.
Clarendon Press, Oxford.
SHARP'S ' BISHOPRICK GARLAND.' — Mr. Thomas
Wilson has a long and interesting note on New-
castle witches at the end of * The Oiling of Dicky's
Wig,' printed in ' The Pitman's Pay/ published at
Gateshead (1843). In this note reference is made
to the description of the " Pelton Brag," given by
Sir Cuthbert Sharp, in his 'Bishoprick Garland.'
I cannot find any mention of this book in the cata-
logue of the Bodleian Library. Should any of your
readers possess a copy, I should be glad to hear
what Sir 0. Sharp has to say about " brags," i. «.,
goblins. THE EDITOR OF THE
'ENGLISH DIALECT DICTIONARY.'
Clarendon Press, Oxford.
«
^ COUNTY FAMILIES. — What is the oldest work
similar in character to Burke's ' County Families '
and Walford's ? E. E. THOYTS.
ARMS.— Can any reader of ' N. & Q.' who is
acquainted with old French heraldry tell to what
family belong the following arms ? A chevron erm.
between three dolphins, the shield surmounted by
a French coronet, presumably that of a viscount.
Crest, a dolphin on the top of a spear. The above
are attached to two old Leicestershire wills, dated
1677, and unfortunately the tinctures are not
denoted. The family to whom these armn be-
longed were supposed to descend from one of the
most ancient noble families in France.
CHEVRON ERM.
LEECH FAMILY. — Will any reader tell me if a
family of the name of Leech, which was living at
or near Cheltenham, Gloucester, previous to the
year 1682, was a branch of the original Derbyshire
family of the same name settled at Chatsworth ?
One Tobias Leech left Cheltenham in 1682, and I
wish to connect him, if possible, to the parent tree.
DE MORO.
Chichester.
BEAUMONT COLLEGE. — Will you please say
where Beaumont College is situated, when founded,
and by whom ] R. J. SMITH.
Montreal.
CLAUDIUS DU CHESNE. — Can any reader give
particulars concerning the period of " Claudius du
Cheane, Londini," an eminent clockmaker ?
C. LAZELL.
MOTTO. — Can any reader give me information
as to the motto and arms of John Propert, the
Welsh apothecary, who founded the Royal Medical
College, Epsom ? The motto would appear to be
either "Dyfalad" or "Deo non fortuna,"but there
is some uncertainty on the point, and any trust-
worthy information would be very acceptable.
CECIL WILLSON.
Weybridge.
ORDER OF THE EMERALD STAR. — In a recent
catalogue I noticed the following book advertised
for sale : " The Green Book ; or, Register of the
Order of the Emerald Star : a Collection of Inter-
esting Literary Articles by a Society which included
the most Learned Men of the Time," folio, circa
1821. What is known of this learned society, and
whence the origin of the name of their order ?
A. C. W.
SIR HENRY CALVERLEY. — Can any of your
readers tell me whether Sir Henry Calverley, of
Ery holme, oo. York, who died in Paris in 1683,
was on a diplomatic mission ? After his death, but
before the death of his daughter and heiress, Mary,
who married Bonnet Sherard, son of Lord Sherard,
the property was in the possession of Christopher
Pinckney, who lived at Eryholme, married Dorothy
Dobson, and had ten children, to one of whose
descendants Sir H. Calverley's family Bible now
belongs. Were the Pinckneys related to the
Calverleys ; or how did this property pass to them?
A. HIPPISLEY SMITH.
Langton Rectory, Maltou, Yorka.
EDMUND BURKE.— Edmund Burke wrote to
Barry, the artist, under date 13 July, 1774, '
have been painted in my life five times, twice in
little and three times in large." This was before
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[8*8. XI. JAN. 30, '97.
Barry had painted his portrait. Can you let me
know where the authentic portraits are now, and
how often his portrait was painted during his life ?
Also, where are the manuscripts of his works
deposited ? A. W. H.
EARLY STEAM NAVIGATION. — The following
paragraph appeared in the Times of 30 June, 1819:
"The Savannah, steam vessel, recently arrived at
Liverpool from America; the first vessel of the kind
that ever crossed the Atlantic, was chased a w'iole day
off the coast of Ireland, by the Kite, revenue cruiser, on
the Cork station, which mistook her for a ship on fire."
Can any correspondent supply a contemporary
description of the build of this vessel, or a pictorial
representation ; and say whether it was constructed
for a sailing or steam ship ? The log book would
only furnish the course and distance sailed, with
ship's position from day to day, but neither the
horse-power of the engine nor the space occupied
thereby. If a copy of the ship's register is avail-
able that document would clear up all doubts.
EVERAKD HOME COLEMAN.
71, Brecknock Road.
THE SHAKSPEARIAN INTERROGATIVE.-— Writers
on historical English point out that Shakespeare
does not hesitate to begin a question with a nomi-
native case even where the rules of strict syntax
clearly demand the objective. They are careful,
however, to note that this is a licence, and they
dwell upon it as a practice unknown in modern
English. Is the fashion changing ? In the Saturday
Review for 9 Jan., p. 29, the following occurs : —
' Three of the most important appointments in the
gift of the Crown must shortly fall vacant— the High
Commissionership of South Africa, the Governor-General-
ship of Canada, and the Governor-Generalship of India.
Who on earth will the Government find to fill these
vacancies 1 "
If there is not here a double ellipsis, should not
the interrogative, according to modern practice, be
in the objective case ? The query receives special
pertinency from the fact that the editor, at p. 40
of the same number of the journal, reproves certain
correspondents for " outraging grammar."
THOMAS BATNE.
Helensburgh, N.B.
KNIGHTS OF ST. LAZARUS. — I should be glad
to be referred to any account of the institution of
the Knights of St. Lazarus (I think that is the title)
during the time of the Crusades ; also generally
to any account of leprosy as it then existed.
R. F.
'THE VICAR OF WAKEFIELD.' — In 'Life and
Letters of Sir Charles Halle",' p. 361, occurs an
extract from his diary, which runs as follows : —
"January 15, 1856.— Left for Wakefield at 12.40.
Before starting I bought a good edition of the * Vicar
of Wakefield,' and by its perusal changed an otherwise
tedious day into a very pleasant one. The place itself
is most prosaic, dark and smoky, as are all English
manufacturing towns, and in no way answers nowadays
to Goldsmith's description."
Has not the same anecdote been told of the mis-
apprehension of some one else ? ST. SWITHIN.
POPE JOAN. — As evidence that there was no room
for this papesse between Leo IV. and Benedict III.,
Gregorovius refers to Garampius for a coin of
Benedict's that reads "Hlotharius Imp." on the
obverse. Leo IV. died 17 July, 855. Lothaire
died 28 or 29 September at Trier. Benedict III.
was elected Pope 29 September. The coin, if
genuine, must have been very promptly minted to
have been struck before the news of the emperor's
death reached Rome—in early autumn the passes
would be open. Will some reader of * N. & Q.' tell
me if the coin is genuine, and where a specimen
can be seen ? C. S. WARD.
Wootton St. Lawrence, Baeingstoke.
CHAMBERLAYNE OF CRANBURY. — The right of
Mr. Tankerville Chamberlayne, of Cranbury Park,
to use the arms and crest of the ancient family of
the same name, who are descended from the Counts
de Tankerville, being questioned by a writer in the
Saturday Review, Mr. Chamberlayne, in reply,
states that his father was thinking of claiming the
"so-called " extinct baronetage of the Chamberlay nes
of Wickham, co. Oxon. Now, after reference to
various authorities, it appears without the smallest
doubt that this title expired in 1776. Neither,
after considerable research, am I able to find the
smallest clue which would connect the family
residing at Cranbury with the very ancient one
formerly seated at Sher borne, co. Oxon, whose
ancestor assumed his surname from the fact of
being chamberlain to King Stephen. Other
branches of this family settled in Warwickshire
and elsewhere, including the baronets of Wickham.
Can any one point out where, if anywhere, the
pedigree of the Cranbury family joins in ; and, if
so, what claim have they to a title undoubtedly
extinct ? HIBERNICUS.
INSCRIPTION. — A leading London paper lately
announced the sale, by Christie & Manson, of a
piece of old Flemish tapestry, representing the
baptism of Dionysius, and bearing the following
inscription : " Sordet mihi Dionysius levante
Olera." Can any of your ingenious readers say
what is the meaning of the last two words of that
inscription ? Is there a misprint here ; and, if so,
what may be the correct reading ? Is it a quota-
tion ; and, if so, from what ?
PATRICK MAXWELL.
Bath.
"THE JUSTICE." — It was stated in a parlia-
mentary return, printed in 1819, that the Laun-
ceston town prison was in the jurisdiction of "the
Justices of the Peace for the borough, oonaisting
8«i 8. XI. JAN. 30, '97.]
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89
of the Mayor, Deputy Recorder, senior Alderman,
and the Mayor for the preceding year, commonly
called 'the Justice." Is the latter term, which
continues to be locally used as descriptive of the
immediate ex-Mayor, generally employed in the
same sense elsewhere? I would note that at
Launceston the title is enjoyed only for a twelve-
month, so that, if a mayor is re-elected, there is no
" Mr. Justice " during the second year of his
mayoralty. DUNHEVBD.
ARABIC STAR NAMES. — Can any reader refer
me to a book, not written in Arabic characters, that
gives the signification of these names ?
T. WILSON.
Harpenden.
JOHN WOOLWARD, 1607.— Blomefield's 'Nor-
folk,' v. 326, says that John Woolward, A.M.,
resigned the rectory of Thorp Abbots in 1607.
I should be glad if any one could tell me anything
of him. SPENCER A. WOOLWARD.
Totternhoe Vicarage, Dunstable.
'THE FORTUNE-TELLER.'— In May, 1786, was
published a mezzotint engraving of a picture bear-
ing this title, which had been painted by the Rev.
Matthew Peters, R.A. The plate was dedicated
to the Duke of Rutland, and the picture was com-
panion to ' The Gamesters,' by the same artist, in
which were represented the Prince of Wales, Lord
Courtney, and Mr. Rowlandson. I am curious to
know who the lady and (presumably) her brother
are in the former work, and shall be sincerely
obliged for any information leading to their identi-
fication. In the Diploma Gallery at Burlington
House I observe another picture by Peters, in
which, unless I am mistaken, the same lady
figures. ST. CLAIR BADDELET.
WALDEKSHARE.— -What is the origin of this
name of an East Kent parish, which in the Domes-
day Survey was written Walwalesere ?
ARTHUR HUSSET.
Wingham, Kent.
AUTHORS OF QUOTATIONS WANTED. —
It is an old belief
That on some solemn shore,
Far from this sphere of grief,
Dear friends will meet once more.
P. NORMAN.
0 nox quam longa est quse facit una senem !
EDWARD H. MARSHALL, M.A.
If you 'd seek in thia world to advance,
And your merits you fain would enhance,
You must foot it and stump it,
And blow your own trumpet,
Or you have not the ghost of a chance.
E. WALFORD.
And didst thou love the race that loved not thee?
And didst thou take to heaven a human brow 1
Dost plead with man's voice by the marvellous sea?
Art thou his kinsman now 1 R. B.
EAGLES CAPTURED AT WATERLOO.
(8th S. xi. 27.)
Is not the " three "' in Gurwood a copyist's
mistake for two ? The London Gazette Extra-
ordinary of 22 June (not likely to be wrong) says
two, and so do all the newspapers of that period.
The Times of 22 June has also an official bulletin
from Downing Street (again not likely to be wrong)
announcing " Capture of Two Eagles '; in the largest
type. No correction was ever made, because, as I sup-
pose, there was no mistake to be corrected. Other
contemporaneous evidence, all, or nearly all, in
favour of two eagle?, is not wanting. The Kentish
Gazette of 23 June informs us that at 3 P.M. on
the 20th Major Percy, who had sailed from Ostend
in His Majesty's brig Peruvian, landed from a
rowboat near Broadstairs with the Waterloo
despatch and the eagles and standards of two
French regiments of infantry, with which he im-
mediately proceeded in a chaise and four for the
metropolis, little imagining (I may add) that one
John Roworth — quite the Archibald Forbes of the
occasion— (see ' N. & Q./ 19 Sept., 1868) had
preceded him by many hours, and was far on the
road to London with the secret of Wellington's
victory in his bosom, to be divulged only to his
employer Nathan Rothschild, who next morning
on the Stock Exchange will turn the said secret
into countless sums of gold. Again, the Morning
Herald of that week speaks of the two captured
eagles being at Carlton House on 23 June, and
afterwards of the two eagles being displayed from
the windows of the Home Office. Such is the
evidence of the time ; see also the Quarterly
Review, July, 1815, p. 510. In after years, it is
true, we find some authors state that three eagles
were captured ; but, qucere, Are not all such state-
ments subsequent to and consequent on the mis-
take in Gurwood 1 For instance, ' Diaries of a
Lady of Quality/ second edition, p. 169 ; Countess
Brownlow's ' Reminiscences of a Septuagenarian/
p. 117 ; * Journals of Rev. J. C. Young,' vol. i.
p. 212 ; * Lady de Ros's Reminiscences,' p. 128.
I perhaps ought to mention one piece of con-
temporaneous evidence in favour of Gurwood's
version. It is to be found in General Sir James
Kempt's despatch of 19 June, printed in Welling-
ton's * Supplementary Despatches,' vol. x.
Kempt there states that in the great attack on
Picton's division three eagles were taken. I hold
this to be a mistake ; see, however, Siborne's
' Waterloo Letters,' p. 88, and Dalton's * Waterloo
Roll Call,' p. 231. The latter records that the
28th Regiment (the Slashers) captured a flag of the
25th French Regiment. The 28th formed part of
Sir James Kempt's brigade, and in the excitement
of the fight it may have been reported that they
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had captured an eagle — hence, perhaps, Kempt's
mistake. A third eagle, it seems, was in the
momentary possession of the Blues, who charged
on the west side of the great road to Charleroi,
and managed to cross poor Victor Hugo's Chemin
Creux without being engulfed. In the ' Supple-
mentary Despatches' it is stated. that a private in
the Blues killed a French officer and took an eagle,
but, his own horse being killed, he could not keep
the eagle. See also Booth's ' Waterloo,' eleventh
edition, p. 207. General Alava, in his official
despatch, was in error in saying that the eagle of
the 49th French Regiment was taken. The 49th
was not at Waterloo. He meant the 45th, the
alleged recapture of whose flag by Urban, quarter-
master of the 4th French Lancers, as recorded by
Thiers in his account of the battle, brings to one's
mind the saying "To lie like a trooper."
T. W. BROQDBN.
Temple.
With reference to this very interesting subject,
the following quotation from my copy of 'The
Waterloo Campaign, 1815,' by William Siborne
(fourth edition, Westminster, Archibald Constable
& Co., 1895), may interest your correspondent
0. R.:—
" I send, with this despatch, two Eagles taken by the
troops in this action ; which Major Percy will have the
honour of laying at the feet of His Royal Highness. I
have the honour, &c., " WELLINGTON."
Clapham, S.W.
HENRY GERALD HOPE.
A copy of Wellington's despatch dated 19 June,
1815, is given in ' A Full and Circumstantial
Account of the Memorable Battle of Waterloo,'
published by Thomas Kelly, London. It is similar
to the quotation given by C. R., except that two
eagles were taken by the troops and sent with the
despatch. This information, coupled with the
statement in the 'Annual Register' for 1816
" that the eagles were carried by two sergeants,"
creates a doubt respecting the accuracy of the
printer of Gurwood's ' Despatches,' which question
can only be answered by referring to the original.
JOHN RABCLIFFE.
One of these three eagles was captured by the
hands of the late General Sir A. Clark-Kennedy,
G.C.B.; and its whereabouts could probably be
learnt by your correspondent C. R. if he were to
address that gallant general's grandson, Mr. A.
Clark-Kennedy, at his house, 20, Tite Street,
Chelsea, S.W. E. WALFORD.
SHELTA (8* S. viii. 348, 435, 475 ; x. 434,
621 ; xi. 34).— I find myself so often in accord
with MR. PLATT on questions of philology that I
am sorry to disagree with him on this occasion.
I hardly think that MR. PLATT has advanced his
case by shifting his ground, and saying that
changing the initials of words is not the basis, but
a basis of Shelta. Dialectics 'would be an easy
matter if the counterchange of the definite and
indefinite articles were an optional alternative.
I feel even doubtful if the process in question is a
basis of Shelta, if by basis is meant a structural
necessity. Two tinkers could probably carry on
a conversation in Shelta without having recourse
to this process at all.
Now for my alleged "mistakes." Slang has
long been a favourite study of mine. I think I have
nearly every book that has been written on the
subject in my small collection ; and a few years ago I
ventilated a few ideas on ' Slang, Jargon, and Cant '
in 'N. & Q.' (7tb S. viii. 341). Amongst other
things, I gave definitions of slang and cant, which
I still venture to think are perfectly sound, and
which show that there is a real and substantial
difference between the two terms. In regard to
"rhyming slang," therefore, I cannot, like Dr.
Johnson on a similar occasion, plead " pure ignor-
ance." As a matter of fact, "rhyming slang," in
the highly artificial sense to which MR. PLATT
would wish to restrict its use, is an exoteric term,
invented by a few literary professors of argot. No
one supposes that the classes which say "Billy
Button " for " mutton " are sensible of these refine-
ments of glossology. In writing of Shelta, I thought
it best to use a short and intelligible phrase in the
sense in which it was employed by Mr. John
Sampson, in his paper on ' Tinkers and their Talk,'
in the Journal of the Gypsy Lore Society (see
vol. ii. pp. 214, 215). In matters of language it
is clearly desirable to use a uniform terminology 5
and if I have made a mistake, I feel I have gone
astray in good company. Errare melo cum
Platone, &c.
As regards "mistake" No. 2, 1 may have gone
too far in saying that Prof. Meyer's third process
is governed by certain fixed rules; but the per-
sistency with which certain Shelta words commence
with gr, *, sh, st, and srt and the rarity of any
other prefixes in words undergoing that process,
goes some way to prove that the principle is not
entirely imaginary. This, however, is a question
which I will leave to Mr. Sampson to decide,
should he think it worth while, along with the
others which MR. PLATT has brought into dis-
cussion, and which require trained Irish scholar-
ship for their solution. I may, however, say that
I question altogether the occurrence of mizzard in
Shelta, " deep " or otherwise. MR. PLATT asserts
that it is "just gizzard — no more nor less"; but
he has failed to explain why the term for a mouth
should be derived from an entirely different organ,
which is unknown to the human economy. I
should be more inclined to connect it with museau
or muzzle ; but this, I admit, is only a guess.
In reply to MR. J. HOBSON MATTHEWS, it may
be observed that Shelta is, or was, the language of
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the travelling tinkers, and not of the Gypsies,
though some Shelta words may have crept into
the Romany vocabulary. There is no doubt that
the Gypsy language is a dialect of Prakrit, and the
careful researches of Mr. Grierson tend to show
that its nearest congener is the form of Bhqjpuri
which is spoken especially by the Doms of Bihar.
Mr. Leland's suggestion that the original Gypsies
may have been Doms of India is thus curiously
confirmed by the evidence of language.
W. F. PRIDEAUX.
Kingsland, Shrewsbury.
CORONATION MEMORIAL MUGS (8th S. x. 436,
524). — I was in Russia shortly after the coronation,
and was given to understand that the mugs were
made — and made in Vienna — solely for distribution
to the crowd on that fatal morning outside Moscow.
As a matter of fact, they were a principal cause of
the disaster, for a rumour had got about — unkind
people said had been put about — that the first
mugs given out would contain lottery tickets and
rouble notes. Hence the crush. When I was
there the small shops, both in Moscow and Peters-
burg, were full of them ; but there were no buyers.
' They had brought bad luck." I am sorry to have
to break to W. I. R. V. that the number exported
to this country was " limited " by the demand, not
by the supply, and that, in all probability, the
enterprising importer and advertiser makes fully
a thousand per cent, over each one he disposes of.
G. S. 0. S.
POUR COMMON MISQUOTATIONS (8th S. x. 474,
523). — The use of uno for prime in " Primo avulso
non deficit alter " calls to mind the story about the
Parisian dentist, who had inscribed above his door
:Uno avulso," &c., intimating that, if he had to
take out a patient's tooth, he could at once supply
another. The misquotation "Ne sutor ultra
crepidam" is not of yesterday. It occurs in
R. Greene's <Menaphon,' 1589, p. 68, Arbor's
reprint, 1880 :—
' When as, God wot, had they but learned of Apelles,
Ne sutor vitro, crepidam, they would not haue aspired
aboue their birth, or talkt beyond their sowterly bring-
ing vp."
Your correspondent may be interested to know
that " Le jeu ne vaut pas la chandelle " is in Cot-
grave's ' French-English Dictionary,' 1650.
F. C. BIRKBECK TERRY.
I am sure the thanks of all readers of ' N. & Q.'
are due to MR. HORTON SMITH for drawing atten-
tion in your columns to the much abused and
long-suffering " Ne supra crepidam sutor." I know
for a fact that some people who have small regard
for quantities imagine this proverb to be a portion
of an hexameter line. At the same time one can-
not help thinking that there must be some authority
for the use of " ultra " in the proverb. I see that
Mr. Chotzner, who wrote the successful Latin
epigram at Cambridge a year or so back, takes as
his motto " Ne sutor ultra crepidam," and I am
naturally loth to believe that so excellent a scholar
would commit such a popular mistake without
any ground. Is it not possible that there may
be at least some oral authority for the corrupted
form ? I believe Prof. Mayor has a useful and
instructive note on the point in one of his editions,
and should be much obliged if any reader of
' N. & Q.' could let me know where to find his
remarks or those of any other authority on the
subject. CECIL WILLSON.
Weybridge.
< THE SAILOR'S GRAVE ' (8th S. x. 356, 402, 501).
— I send herewith a correct copy of this fine old
song, from a printed edition, with the music, pub*
lished by D'Almaine & Co. fifty years ago : —
There is in the lone, lone Sea
A spot unmark'd but holy,
For there the gallant and the free
In his Ocean bed lies lowly.
Down, down beneath the deep,
That oft in triumph bore him,
He sleeps a sound and peaceful sleep,
With the salt Waves dashing o'er him.
He sleeps, he sleeps serene and safe
From tempest and from billow,
Where storms that high above him chafe
Scarce rock his peaceful pillow.
The Sea and him in death
They did not dare to sever,
It was his Home when he had breath,
'Tis now his Homo for ever.
Sleep on, sleep on, thou mighty dead,
A glorious Tomb they 've found thee ;
The broad blue Sky above thee spread,
The boundless Ocean round thee.
No vulgar foot treads here,
No hand profane shall move thee,
But gallant hearts shall proudly steer
And Warriors shout above thee.
And though no Stone may tell thy Name, thy worth
thy glory,
They rest in 'hearts that loved thee well, and they grace
Britannia's Story.
The words are by the Rev. H. F. Lyte, the
music was composed by Mrs. Shelton, and it was
sung by Mr. Braham. B. HOWLETT.
COL. STUART (8* S. ix. 68, 170, 258). — It
may be added that General James Stuart, for
merly Commander-in- Chief at Madras, and late
Colonel of the 72nd Regiment of Foot, died in
Charles Street, Berkeley Square, 29 April, 1815,
aged seventy-five years, and was buried in a vault
in St. James's Chapel, Hampstead Road, London.
What relationship did Rear- Admiral Henry Stuart,
who died 9 April, 1840, aged seventy- two years,
bear to the above-named General James Stuart 1
DANIEL HIPWELL.
JOHN GREENLEAF WHITTIER (8tb S. xi. 28).—
As a step in the direction of what is required, it
is necessary to discover the date of the Whittier
92
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settlement in Massachusetts. This was furnished
by the poet in 1888, when, writing to the Essex
County Agricultural Society, he said, "My
ancestors since 1640 have been farmers in Essex
County." An obituary notice (September, 1891)
in the Christian World said, " His roots struck
deep in the New England soil of which his
ancestors were, in 1638, among the first settlers."
Setting on one side the question of the two years'
difference in date, it is evident, from the second
quotation, that immigration, and not migration
merely, was meant, and that Whittier's ancestors
in the direct line must be sought for in this country
prior to 1640. I am sorry I cannot supply in-
formation on that point. ARTHUR MATALL.
A will made at Ipswich, in 1773, was witnessed
by Greenleaf Clark. S. A. W.
The origin of the surname of this poet would
not puzzle any one familiar with our Midland
Counties' dialect. It is clearly a surname of occu-
pation, Whittier=Whittawer, originally a tanner
of white leather, now a collar and harness maker.
In Nottinghamshire the name is usually contracted
toWhittaw. C. 0. B.
THE PROCLAMATION OF LANCASTER FAIR (8th
S. x. 412). — By the notices in the daily papers it
must be generally known throughout the kingdom
that there is annually held in Colchester a great
feast of the oysters for which this town has been
for ages celebrated. It is always held on 20 Octo-
ber, and is presided over by the mayor, who issues
all the invitations and pays all the expenses
incurred, it being the grandest function of his
year of office. To this feast invitations are sent to
many public men, and last year, as will be remem-
bered, Lord Eosebery came, and made a speech of
very great public interest, both to this kingdom
and Europe generally. To be invited is considered
in the town a compliment of special value, from
the importance of the function and the treat of a
luncheon on an unlimited number of the finest
native oysters which can be obtained, of which
sacks are consumed.
Advantage is often taken of the holding of the
feast to inaugurate some public improvement on the
morning of the day, at which the invited guests
usually take part. Last year it was the opening of
a technical school, this part of the proceedings being
commenced by the mayor, aldermen, and councillors
in their robes, preceded by the mace-bearer, carry-
ing the very fine mace, and four police-constables,
having the four ward maces, appearing on the steps
of the town hall. The town clerk, wearing his official
robe, then reads in a loud voice a proclamation
declaring the fair of St. Denis to be open and to
continue for four days, the town crier having
previously given the (i1 Oyez, Oyez !" three times.
The hats of those taking part in the procession
are usually raised at the finish of the reading of this
proclamation, the crier giving, in a loud voice,
" God save the Queen." A move is then made
towards another part of the High Street, the pro-
cession being preceded, »s before, by the police and
the mace-bearers, and other policemen walking by
the side at intervals, and the Corporation being
followed by the borough officials. When another
ward of the borough is entered a stop is made,
and the same ceremony is gone through, and then
the party goes to another part of the High Street,
and so repeats the proclamation in each of the
other wards, which done, they, in the same order,
return to the town hall and disrobe.
It is a rather quaint proceeding, but is in accord-
ance with the charter, and so, one may hope, may
continue, although, like the proclamation at Lan-
caster, its effects are almost nil.
HENRY LAYER, F.S.A.
Colchester.
At Honiton, Devon, a fair is held on the first
Wednesday and Thursday after 19 July,
Henry VI. having granted the charter to the
lord of the manor. It is proclaimed on the
Tuesday at noon by the crier, an officer of
the lord* That official comes into the centre of
the town, where the old market cross stood, and
carries a pole on the end of which is a glove
decorated with flowers, and after ringing his bell
three times, says, " Oyez, Oyez, Oyez I The glove
is up, the fair is begun, no man can be arrested
till it's taken down again." The glove on the
Wednesday is placed outside an inn in the centre
of the cattle fair, and on Thursday outside another
inn, the centre of the horse fair. At midnight on
Thursday it is taken down. K. A. F.
THE " PARSON'S NOSE " (8th S. x. 496 ; xi. 33).
— The "parson's nose" and the "bishop "were
familiar names in my nursery days, the thirties.
I have also heard the part called the " mitre." The
mention of the " apron " reminds me of the under-
lying seasoning in the lanthorn of duck or goose.
This good stuff went by the name of the <l gun-
room," a part of a line-of-battle ship answering to
the hinder end of the roast bird. MR. BIRKBECK
TERRY mentions the " Pope's eye " in a leg of
mutton. Can he tell me what part of the joint
is called the " alderman's walk " ?
JOHN PAKENHAM STILWELL.
Hilfield, Yateley, Hants.
BROWNING AS A PREACHER (8tb S. xi. 28). —
MR. GOWERS'S statement will be news to at least
one biographer of Browning. Here is what Mrs. Orr
has to say on the subject, ' Life and Letters of
Robert Browning/ 1891, p. 52 n. : —
"Mr. Browning's memory recalled a first and last
effort at preaching, inspired by one of his very earliest
visits to a place of worship. He extemporised a surplice
or gown, climbed into an arm-chair by way of pulpit,
8" S. XI. Jiff. 30, '97.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
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and held forth so vehemently that his scarcely more than
baby sister was frightened and began to cry ; whereupon
he turned to an imaginary presence, and said, with all
the sternness which the occasion required, ' Pew-opener,
remove that child.' '
ARTHUR MAYALL.
No account of the publication of any of Brown-
ing's sermons appears in the ' Bibliography of the
Writings of Robert Browning ' given in the Athe-
nceum of 26 Dec., 1896, and other numbers.
EVERARD HOME COLEMAN.
71, Brecknock Road.
PORTRAIT OF ROBERT HARLEY, EARL OF
OXFORD (8th S. xi. 26). — MR. PicKFORDis correct
in his surmise. The painting by Eneller is one of
six portraits of personages to whose collections the
formation of the Museum is due. The other
portraits are three members of the Cotton family,
Sir Robert, Sir John, and Sir Thomas Cotton ; a
full-length of Sir Hans Sloane ; and a half-length
of Edward, Earl of Oxford, by Dahl. These
pictures, with others, are the remainder of the large
collection formerly in the Museum, of which the
greater part was transferred to the National Por-
trait Gallery, and a small number to the National
Gallery. This information is given in " A Guide
to the Exhibition Galleries of the British Museum
(Bloomsbury), printed by order of the Trustees,
1894." H. G. GRIFFINHOOFE.
34, St. Petersburg Place, W.
WESTCHESTER (8th S. xi. 28). — Chester (see
Camden's 'Britannia'). The question has been
answered several times previously, as is observed
in 'N. & Q.,'8tb S. iii. 492. Your correspondent's
other inquiry I cannot answer further than to in-
form him that the Goodmans are, or were, an old
Cheshire family, to which belonged the Puritan
divine Christopher Goodman, who was deprived
of his living for nonconformity in 1571 and died
at Chester in 1603. F. ADAMS.
Westchester is another name for Chester, so
used about the period named by C. S. I have
amongst my pamphlets a Civil War tract, dated
1642, entitled 'Good News from Westchester.'
Christopher Goodman was (says the late J. E.
Bailey, F. S. AM in a paper in the first volume, new
series, of the Journal of the Chester Archaeological
Society) probably a son of William Goodman,
merchant, of Chester, whose will (1544) has been
printed by the Chetham Society. Christopher was
born at Chester in 1519, and educated at the
King's School there. He went in 1541 to Brase-
nose College, Oxford ; became M. A. in 1544, and
a senior student of Christchurch in 1547. He wag
Professor of Divinity from 1548 to 1553. On
Queen Mary's accession he fled to the Continent.
3e was subsequently Vicar of Aldford, near
Eaton Hall, and Rector of St. Bridget's, Chester,
in which church it is believed he was buried. He
was the first to bring a supply of water to Chester.
He was a writer of considerable note and a famous
preacher. T. CANN HUGHES, M.A.
Lancaster.
[Many replies to the same effect are acknowledged.]
THE PARTICLE "WITH" (8th S. x. 472).—
According to the strict rule of English grammar
that a verb must agree with its subject with
respect to number, G. L. G.'s sentence is gram-
matically wrong, though I suppose it may be
defended on the ground of synesis, just as we have
in Thucydides, iii. c. 109, Am/,o tffle vrjs pera rwv
£vo"T/o(m7ya>i/ onrevSovTai MatmveiJO'lv. Apropos
of this use, I may quote what Dean Farrar says in
his ' Brief Greek Syntax,' 1867, p. 59 :—
" The Greeks being an extremely quick race, often
allowed the sense to overrule the grammar, or substi-
tuted tbe logic of thought to that of grammatical forms.
They saw through the form, and often disregarded it."
So Sallust writes : —
"Bocchus cum peditibus, quos Volux films ejus
adduxerat, neque in priore pugna, in itinere morati,
adfuerant ,'postremam Bomanorum aciem invadunt." —
'Jug.,' 101.
MR. F. ADAMS'S friend seems to have got some'
what mixed in the enunciation of his metaphorical
statement, " The cloven foot stepped into grammar
a long time ago, and made a lasting impression on
mankind, apparently." As the foot stepped into
grammar, surely the impression would be on
grammar; and not on mankind.
F. C. Bi REBECK TERRY.
DOMESDAY SURVEY : " GURGES " (8tn S. x. 114,
181).— In Hearne's ' John of Glastonbury ' (Oxford,
1726), p. 317, 1 note : " Sunt ibidem duse gurgites,
vocatee Hacchewere & Bordenwere, unde piscacio
anguillarum & aliorum piscium valet communibus
annis " Another gurges is mentioned on the
same page. Q. V.
" PARLIAMENT " (8th S. x. 455).— The following
remarks from Miss Baker's ' Northamptonshire
Glossary,' 1854, may prove of interest to your
correspondent : —
"Parliament. — A thin rectangular piece of Crisp
gingerbread. Jamieson has ' Parliament-cake,' and re-
marks, ' perhaps originally used by members of the
Scottish Parliaments during their siderunts ' [sic]. Our
name may, with equal probability, have a similar
origin."
PROF. ATTWELL speaks of " brandy-snap," alias
"jumble." The "jumble" of my childhood was
made of flour, sugar, butter, and eggs, in various
shapes, and was entirely different from a " brandy-
snap." F. C. Bi REBECK TERRY.
See Jamieson's ' Scottish Dictionary ' (Paisley,
Alexander Gardner, 1880), vol. iii. p. 442 :—
" Parliament-Cake, Parley.— A. thin species of ginger-
bread, supposed to have had its name from its being
used by the members of the Scottish Parliament during
94
NOTES AND QUERIES. [8th B. XL JAN. 30/97.
their sod e runts. S. 'They did business on a larger
scale, having a general huxtry, with parliament-cakes,
and candles, and pincushions, as well as other groceries,
in their window' ('Annals of the Parish, 'p. 182). 'Here's
a bawbee tae ye : awa' an' buy parleys \vi 't.' '
J. B. FLEMING.
Kelvineide, Glasgow.
HERTFORD STREET, MAYFAIR (8th S. xi. 47). —
In the alphabetical list of streets at the end of Sir
John Fielding's ' Brief Description,' 1776, there is
" Garrick Street, Mayfair," as well as " Hertford
Street." ED. MARSHALL.
Upwards of three-and-forty years ago it was
recorded in 'N. & Q.,' 1st S. viii. 411, that on a
square stone in the wall of No. 15, Hertford Street
was inscribed " Garrick Street, January 15, 1764,"
and that the inscription was not noticed in any
work on London to which your correspondent had
referred. So far as I can trace, no further mention
of this change of name has appeared in ' N. & Q.,'
or in any other publication until the issue of Mr.
Clinch's ' Mayfair and Belgravia.'
EVERARD HOME COLEMAN.
71, Brecknock Road.
JEWISH MEDALS (8th S. x. 415, 466).— The few
books on medals and coins I possess do not state
that a medal of the class mentioned by the DUKE DE
MORO was struck. The ' History of Jewish Coin-
age,' by F. W. Madden, 1864, pp. 154-210, gives
some valuable and interesting information respect-
ing the coins struck and restruck during the first
and second revolt against the Roman Empire, in
which the Jewish leaders commemorated their
trials and struggles. Bar-cochab was a leader in
the latter, and it is supposed bore the name of
Simon. JOHN RADCLIFFE.
Regarding the query relating to the Jewish
medal, I have every reason to believe that one was
struck to commemorate the rising of the Jews
under Barcochebas ; but can any reader of 'N. & Q.'
throw any light on its probable shape and inscrip-
tion ? ARTHUR J. CHALLIS.
Apuldram, Chichester.
RACHEL DE LA POLE (8th S. x. 516). — In the
few scant pedigrees of the family of Ry ther (Rither,
Ryder, or Rider) — originally of a place of that
name in co. York — which have come down to us,
at least as met with in public collections, there is
evidently some confusion ; and I know of none
mentioning the match referred to by your corre-
spondent. The place about which he inquires is,
however, certainly Muckleston, co. Staff. ; and, as
the only Ryther connected therewith that I am
aware of was Thomas — son of Thomas, seventh son
of Sir William Ryther, of Harwood (or Hare wood)
Castle, co. York, Knt., by Elenor, daughter of
John Fitzwilliams, of Sprotborough — who is stated
in Stowe MS. 624, pencil fo. 160, to have married
"Catherin, daughter of Mr. Poole, of Com' Staf-
ford," I should think that this latter must be the
lady in question. But the marriage could hardly
have taken place much earlier than 1547,
whereas MR. PIGOTT mentions 1480-1500 ; and
there is some reason to believe that the Christian
name of this Thomas's wife was Ellen — at least that
appears by the entry in the parish register of her
burial at Stepney, co. Middlesex, 4 Sept., 1606, to
have been the name of the mother of Sir William
Ryder, Lord Mayor of London, 1600-1, who was
the said Thomas's eldest son. Possibly the father
may have married twice. To add to the confusion,
it will be seen by a reference to Stow's ' London,'
ed. Strype, that the author was in doubt as to the
parentage of the Lord Mayor as above — one of the
vexed questions in the family history upon which
the recent combined researches of my friend Mr.
G. E. Cokayne and myself have thrown consider-
able light. W. I. R. V.
THE COMB IN CHURCH CEREMONIES (1s* S. ii.
230, 269, 365 ; 8th S. iv. 468 ; v. 90 ; x. 520).-
St. Teilo's ritual comb was among the relics of
that great fifth-century bishop which were pre-
served in Llandaff Cathedral until the Reformation.
JOHN HOBSON MATTHEWS.
Town Hall, Cardiff.
"JENKY AND JENNY" (8th S. x. 416, 483).-
Cf. Byron's ' The Waltz': —
New victories — nor can we prize them less,
Though Jenky wonders at his own success.
This " apostrophic hymn" is dated 1813.
H. E. M.
St, Petersburg.
SHRINE OF ST. CUTHBERT (8th S. x. 494),— In
the * History of St. Cuthbert,' by the venerable
and much -loved Archbishop Eyre of Glasgow
(London, Burns & Oates, Limited, third edition,
1887, pp. 236-7), we find the following :-
" At the foot of the shrine, i. e., at its east end, stood a
box to receive the offerings made by the faithful to the
shrine of St. Cuthbert; it was called the Fix of St.
Cuthbert."
And in note i. p. 237 : —
" The sums of money offered at the shrine in this box,
from the year 1378 to 1513 are printed in Kainc, p. 115.
The yearly amount of the donations received was, on an
average of sixty-nine years, 24£. 10s. 6d., equal to about
1501. of the money of the present day. (See ' Remarks,'
p. 39.) This money was expended in divers ways, in
promoting the interests of the church and monastery.
The expenses and repairs of the feretory were met by it;
and the different entries connected with the shrine serve
to throw much light upon the feretory and shrine. We
select a few from the entries published."
Here follow excerpts from Raine, ending with
1513-4 ; and Archbishop Eyre does not seem to
refer in his book to any later offerings. How does
your correspondent J. T. F. say, " The last given
by Raine is : 1488-9, 41 19*. 9d.," when in his
8«> 8. XI. JAH. 30, '97.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
95
own quotation from Raine he has already said
" 1513-4 " 1 The last item given in the quotation
from Kaine, pp. 115-165 in Archbishop Eyre's
book is, " 1513-4. Repairing the banner of St.
Cuthbert, 13s. 4d." J. B. FLEMING.
Kelvinside, Glasgow.
RELIGIOUS DANCING (8th S. x. 115, 202 ; xi.
29). — In Hone's * Every-Day Book,' vol. i., there
is the following under Easter customs, quoted from
Fosbrooke's 'Brit. Monach,':—
"Easter ball play another ecclesiastical device, the
meaning of which cannot be traced ; but it is certain
that the Romish clergy abroad played at ball in the
church, as part of the service ; and we find an arch-
bishop joining in the sport. A ball, not of size to be
grasped by one hand only, being given out at Easter, the
dean or his representative began an antiphone, suited
to Easter Day ; then taking the ball in his left hand, he
commenced a dance to the tune of the antiphone, the
others dancing round hand in hand. At intervals the
ball was bandied or passed to each chorister. The organ
played according to the dance and sport. The dancing
and antiphone being concluded, the choir went to take
refreshment. It was the privilege of the lord, or his
locum tenens to throw the ball ; even the archbishop did
it."
This quotation is from the edition of * Hone's
Works' published by Ward, Lock & Co., 1888,
vol. i p. 215, and the same quotation is on p. 432
of that volume. ARTHUR HUSSEY.
Wingham, Kent.
Can any of your readers explain the allusion in
the following passage from ' Tanz und Tanzkunst,'
A. Czerwinski, second edition, p. 30 : —
" In eigenthiimlicher Deutung einiger Ausspriiche
ties Apostel Paulus wurde das Tanzen beim Gottesdienst
fiir erlaubt erklart, (lurch Gregoriua Thaumaturgus
eingefiihrt, und besonders, nachdem die Christenverfol-
gungen aufgehort batten, alle Freuden- und Friedens-
feste damit verherrlicht, wahrend es bei anderen
Gelegenheiten z. b., bei den Hochzeiten der Christen,
verboten war."
W. LdWENBERG.
St. Peter's Vicarage, Bury, Lancashire.
" HEAR, HEAR ! " (4th S. ix. 200, 229, 285 ; 6th
S. xii. 346 ; 8th S. iv. 447 ; v. 34 ; xi. 31.)— The
following, from Mr. Austin Dobson's pleasant and
entertaining * Eighteenth Century Vignettes,' Third
Series, 1896, is perhaps worth reproduction, It
is taken from the essay on * Grosley's " Londres." '
M. Pierre Jean Groeley visited England in 1765,
and attended a sitting of the House of Commons :
' They [i. e., the speakers] stood up,' he says, ' and
addressed themselves to the Speaker's chair (the bureau
du Spik, is M. Grosley'a phrase), with lega apart, one
knee bent, and one arm extended as if they were going
to fence. They held forth for a long time, scarcely any
one paying attention to what they said, except at such
moments as the members of their party cried out in
chorus, Ya, ya.' Many of these last, he observes else-
where, confined themselves to this monosyllabic contri-
bution to debate ; and he instances one gentleman who
for twenty years had never but once made a speech, and
that was tp moye that a broken window at the back qf
his seat might be mended without loss of time. M. Grosley
omits the name of this laconic emulator of ' single-speech
Hamilton, ' but according to certain recently published
records he is to be identified with James Ferguson of
Pitfour, afterwards member for Aberdeenshire,"
M. Grosley's acquaintance with the English
language was very limited, and presumably his
spelling was phonetic. A. C. W.
The parliamentary exclamation " Hear, hear "
may be dated, on good authority, from the time
"when George IV. was king": "The Duke
warmed, and a courteous * hear, hear ' frequently
sounded " (' The Young Duke,' bk. v. chap. viii.).
EDWARD H, MARSHALL, M.A.
Hastings.
DULANY FAMILY (8th S. x. 357, 484, 524).—
Patrick Delany, D.D., Dean of Down, was born
of humble parentage in 1686. He entered Trinity
College as a sizar, and rose to be Senior Fellow.
He was twice married — in 1731 to Mrs. Tenison,
a rich widow, and in 1743 to Mrs. Pendarves,
a widow of wealth, uncommon brilliancy, and
accomplishments, his junior by fourteen years.
Her maiden name was Mary Granville, and she
was a niece of Lord Lansdowne. "Those precious
volumes " (as George Augustus Sala called them)
her ' Autobiography and Correspondence ' were
edited by Lady Llanover, three appearing in 1861,
and three in 1862, enriched with numerous por-
traits. The particulars of her life in Ireland are
very interesting. Mrs. Delany delighted in her
residence at Delville and liked the Irish people.
Her marriage with Dr. Delany proved singularly
happy, and she writes of her husband as follows :
" I could not have been so happy with any man in the
world as the person I am now united to ; his real bene-
volence of heart, the great delight he takes in making
every one happy about him, is a disposition so uncommon
that I would not change that one circumstance of hap-
piness for all the riches and greatness in the world."
The doctor died in Bath on 6 May, 1768, and
was buried in Glasnevin, There is a bust of him
in the library of Trinity College, Dublin. His
widow survived until 1788 (vide ' A Compendium
of Irish Biography,' by Alfred Webb, Dubliq,
M. H. Gill & Son, 1878) ;—
Only in love they happy prove
Who love what most deserves their love,
HENRY GERALD HOPE.
Clapham, S.W.
Account of duel and death of Lloyd Dulany in
' Annual Register,' 1782. Probably other refer-
ences, but I have not searched.
E. E. THOYTS.
CHURCHWARDENS (8tb S. x. 77, 106 ; xi. 12).—
That the election of only two churchwardens in a
parish has not been strictly adhered to may be
instanced by the custom in this city. Before the
passing of the Reform Bill, this city had been
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divided into ten wards, BIZ being in St. Michael's
parish and the remaining four in the parish of
Holy Trinity. In St. Michael's parish the custom
was to elect one warden for each ward, the vicar
nominating the one for the ward in which the
church is situated, the sixth nominated acts as
warden for the church of St. John Baptist,
that being in Spon Street ward, which constitutes
its parish, but is for all civil purposes a part of St.
Michael's parish, i.e., a parish within a parish.
This custom still continues, a warden being elected
for each of the old wards. At Holy Trinity four
wardens are still elected, but in different order, the
first by the vicar, then the accountant warden, and
then two others ; but the different wards are not
mentioned. In both cases the present and past
wardens constitute the vestry. J. ASTLBY.
Coventry.
"COCKTAIL" (7th S. xii. 306 ; 8» S. x. 400).
— Bartlett's ' Dictionary of Americanisms,' 1877,
has : —
" A friend thinks that thia term was suggested by the
shape which froth, as of a glaaa of porter, assumes when
it flows over the sides of a tumbler containing the
liquid effervescing. ' A bowie knife and a foaming cod--
tail:—N.Y. Tribune, May 8, 1862."
F. 0. BIRKBECK TERRY.
MONT-DE-PI£T£ (8tb S. iv. 203, 309 ; x. 302).—
With regard to the suggestion that a similar in-
stitution would be desirable for London, I thought
such an idea had been completely crushed out by
a most amusing article— full, however, of thorough
practical knowledge of the working of such institu-
tions— in the Daily Telegraph some time last year.
I regret I did not make a note of the date, not
thinking I should ever require it. The writer
showed what a bad thing officialism was (in this
as it is in most things) for the French, and he gave
an interesting account of the trouble he had to
pawn his own properties, merely for the sake of
seeing how it worked. Paternal government has,
fortunately, never found much favour in England.
As an official of the L.G.C. it is, of course,
quite right for MR. JOHN HERB to think any
project of that body a good thing, and I am sorry
I must express an opinion at variance with my
friends, whose learned notes are usually indisput-
able. I should like to take this opportunity of
saying that I am not connected with Thomas
Ralph, who has been sentenced for hitting his
superior officer (People, 11 Oct., 1896). I should
not do that, although I do not mind having a quiet
hit at an official. RALPH THOMAS.
Ruskin, in 'Fors Clavigera,' thus explains the
meaning of this expression : —
"The Mount is the heap of money in atore for lending
without interest. You shall have a picture of it in next
number as drawn by a brave landscape painter four
hundred years ago ; and it will ultimately be one of the
crags of our own Mont Rose [an institution founded by
Ruskin], and well should be, for it was first raised among
the rocks of Italy by a Franciscan monk, for refuge to
the poor against the usury of the Lombard merchants
who gave name to our Lombard Street and perished by
their usury as their successors are like enough to do also.
But the story goes back to Friedrich II. of Germany
again, and is too long for this letter." — ' Fors Clavigera,'
ii. let. zxi. 17 (note).
There is a woodcut to the twenty-second letter,
representing the Mount of Compassion and the
coronation of its builder, from a picture by Botti-
celli. The author says of this illustration : —
" It represents the seven works of Mercy, as com-
pleted by an eighth work in the centre of all ; namely,
lending money without interest from the Mount of Pity
accumulated by generous alms. In the upper part of
the design are seen the shores of Italy, with the cities
which first built Mounts of Pity ; Venice chief of all ;
then Florence, Genoa, and Castruccio's Lucca ; in the
distance prays the monk of Ancona [Terni?] who first
thought — inspired of heaven — of such war with usurers;
and an angel crowns him, as you see. The little dashes,
which form the background, represent the waves of the
Adriatic ; and they, as well as all the rest, are rightly
and manfully engraved, though you may not think it ;
but I have no time to-day to give you a lecture on
engraving nor to tell you the story of the Mount of Pity,
which is too pretty to be spoiled by haste, but I hope
to get something of Theseus and Frederick the Second
preparatorily into next letter." — ' Fors,' xxii. 22.
JNO. HEBB.
LANDOUARD FORT (8th S. x. 515 ; xi. 35). —
Oamden has (' Essex,' col. 424, vol. i., 1722) :-
"Over against it [Harwich] at Langerfort (contracted
from Land-guard-fort, which tho' it may seem to be in
Suffolk, ia notwithstanding by the officera of her Majesty's
Ordnance in the Tower of London, writ in Essex, accord-
ing to former precedents) are the remains of an ancient
fortification, which shew great labour and antiquity.
The line of it runs southerly, from a little without the
town gate to the Beacon-hill-field, about the midst of
which is a round artificial hill, cast up probably either
for placing their standard on, or else for a tumulus over
some one of their commanders deceased ; for that we find
common in many parts of England. Another work runs
across from the first, easterly ; but they are both broken
by the encroachings of the sea."
This refers to the ancient remains. The more
recent fortifications have been thus described in
the * England's Gazetteer,' 1751 :—
" Landguard Fort seems to belong to Suffolk, but ia in
the limits of Essex, and has a lovely prospect of the
coasts of both counties. It was erected and is maintained
for the defence of the port of Harwich over against it ;
for it commands the entry of it from the sea up the
Maningtre water, and will fetch any ship that goes in or
out. It is placed on a point of land so surrounded with
the sea at high water, that it looks like a little island at
least from the shore. The making its foundation solid
enough for so good a fortification cost many years of hard
labour and a prodigious expense. It was built in the
reign of King James I., when it was a much more con-
siderable fortification than now, having four bastions
mounted with so very large guns, particularly those on
the royal bastion, which would throw a forty-eight pound
ball over Harwich. Here is a small garrison, with a
governor and a platform of guns. This fort is now (1749)
refitting and greatly enlarging for the conveniency of
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97
the officers of ordnance engineers and matrosses ; and a appointed, the three Scottish bishops were consecrated."
barrack is building for the soldiers, whose number is to — Spottiswood's 'History of the Church of Scotland,'
be augmented. Col. Cracherode is the Governor."
In the ' Description of England and Wales,'
1769, vol. iv. p. 49, there is this further notice : —
"The fortifications on the land side were demolished
in the reign of Charles the first; but tho' an act of
Parliament has since been passed for erecting new forti-
fications, and ground has been purchased for that purpose,
little or no progress has been made in the Work."
ED. MARSHALL.
MR. WARREN is in error in making Capt.
Thicknesse a governor of Landguard Fort : he was
lieutenant-governor from 1753 to 1765. The
governors from 1711 were : —
1711. Francis Hammond.
1719. Bacon Morris.
1744. Mordaunt Cracherode.
1753. Lord George Beauclerck.
1768. Kobert Armiger.
1770. John Clavering.
1778. Hon. Alexander Mackay.
1788. Harry Trelawney.
1800. David Dundas.
1801. Cavendish Lister.
1823. Sir Eobert Brownrigg, Bart., till his death
in 1833.
The lieutenant-governors from 1753 were : —
1753. Philip Thicknesse.
1765. Anketell Singleton.
1804. John Blake.
1806. Alexander Mair.
1811. Charles Augustus West, till his death in
1854.
Preston.
ALFRED B. BEAVEN, M.A.
CHURCH OF SCOTLAND (8th S. xi. 27). — Presby-
terial Church government was legalized by the
Parliament of Scotland in 1592. King James
introduced Episcopacy in 1610. In 1604 the
Church of Scotland was still Presbyterian. When
Messrs. John Spottiswood, Gavin Hamilton, and
Andrew Lamb were summoned to England to
receive consecration, the question was raised
whether it was not necessary that they should first
receive ordination as presbyters, no such ordination
having been conferred on them from episcopal
hands. I give the result in Archbishop Spottis-
wood's own words : —
"The twenty-first of October (1610) was appointed to
be the time, and the Chapel of London House to be the
place of consecration. A question in the meantime was
raised by Dr. Andrews, bishop of Ely, touching the
consecration of the Scottish bishops, who, as he said,
'must first be ordained presbytars, as having received no
ordination from a bishop.' The Archbishop of Canter-
bury, Dr. Bancroft, who was by, maintained ' that thereof
there was no necessity, seeing where bishops could not
be had, the ordination given by presbyters must be
esteemed lawful ; otherwise that it might be doubted if
there were any lawful vocation in most of the reformed
Churches.' This was applauded to [sic] by the other
bishops, Ely acquiesced, and at the day and in the place
vol.'iii. p. 209.
The narrower Anglican views, with which we
are now unfortunately too well acquainted, and
which, it is to be hoped, in the interest of true
catholicity and Christian charity, have lately
received a damper from the Pope, evidently had
not in 1610 become dominant. There is, therefore,
nothing remarkable in the fact that the Presbyte-
rian Church of Scotland was recognized as the
Church of Scotland in the Canons of Canterbury
promulgated in 1604. R. M. SPENCB, M.A.
Manse of Arbuthnott, N.B.
The fifty-fifth canon undoubtedly refers to the
Church of Scotland as by law established, which
was in 1604, as now, Presbyterian in its form of
government. I do not know whether the dis-
establishment of the Irish Church has impliedly
repealed this canon so far as that Church is con-
cerned. If not. " all Preachers and Ministers " of
the Church of England are liable to ecclesiastical
censures if they do not " before all Sermons,
Lectures, and Homilies move the people to
join with them in Prayer especially for the
Churches of England, Scotland, and Ireland."
Q. V.
I would refer KOM OMBO to the two articles on
the 'Church of Scotland' and the 'Episcopal
Church of Scotland' in 'The Dictionary of Religion'
(1891) edited by the Rev. William Benham (pp.
940 and 945). In 1604 Episcopacy would appear
to have been in the ascendant. A. C. W.
FUNERAL CUSTOMS (8th S. x. 412). — When our
hero king, Henry V., died at Vincennes in 1422,
his body was dismembered and the flesh stewed
off the bones ; but it was otherwise with the
remains of his contemporary Charles VI. and with
those of Charles VII. I quote from M. Franklin's
' L'Annonce et la Reclame ' (pp. 45, 46) in * La Vie
priv^e d'Autrefois ' series : —
"'Son corps,' dit Juvenal des Ursins, 'fut mis par
pieces et bouilly en une paesle [poele] tellement quo la
chair se separa des os. L'eau qui restoit fut jettee en
une cimetiere, et lea os avec la chair furent mis en un
coffre de plomb avec plusieurs especes d'espices, de drogues
odonferantes, et choses sentant bon.' Charles VI. fut
moins maltraite : ' Son corps, vuide des entrailles et
rempli d'epices et d'herbes sentant bon, fut mis en un
coffre plombeV On dut proceder autrement vis-a-vis de
Charles VII., car le 17 Octobre, 1793, quand fut faite a
Saint Denis 1'ouverture de son cercueil, on y trouva ' du
vif argent qui avait conserve toute sa nuidite.' '
I do not think M. Franklin makes any mention
of the forty days' exposure of the effigy of a king
deceased : that of Francis I. was exhibited for
eleven, and six sufficed in the case of Charles IX.
Meals were served in its presence with royal
state, exactly as if the monarch were still able to
enjoy them. At one time gentlemen were wont
to carry the body to its grave, but at length they
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found such a burden too heavy, and relegated
their duty to the Hanouards.
" Le singulier privilege dont ils jouiesaient de porter
le corps dea roia a leur derniere demeure a souleve bien
des discussions. On a suppose qu'ils avaicnt ete charges
des operations de 1'embaumement, ou le sel serait entre en
grande quantite. M. Lecaron (' Me"moires de la Societe
de 1'histoire de Paris,' t. vii. p. 126) croit qu'ils furent
choisis pour rendre aux rois les derniers honneurs
' parce qu'ils otaient les plus anciens, les plus habiles el
les plus forts des Porteurs de Paris ' — triple assertion qui
resterait a prouver." — Note, p. 53.
ST. S WITH IN.
A girl here told me that last year, when she
went to be a bearer at the funeral of a baby, she
declined to take any wine or cake, but the father
said, " You must take something ; it 'a the last meal
you will have with the baby." Can this be with
the same idea as the French repasts before the
king's effigy ? M. E. POOLE.
Alsager, Cheshire.
AUTHORS OF QUOTATIONS WANTED (8th S, ix.
49 ; xi. 19).—
Non annorum canitiee, &c.
May I give an addendum to my reply at the last
reference ? The passage as it appears in ' Sancti Am-
brosii Opera,' Mediolani, 1881, vol. v. col. 378, is —
Non annorum canities est laudata sed morum.
4 Epistolse,' Priraa Classis, xviii. sec. 7.
A note says, " Grimes editiones ante maurinam et pauci
MSS. ' est laudenda ' [sic]." ROBERT PIERPOINT.
MR. PIERPOINT'S reference to Proverbs xvi. 31 sug-
gests the question, Was it from Plautus, Ambrosius, or
Seneca that the English translators got the "if" with
which they " improved " this text ] The Hebrew and
the LXX. have it not, the Vulgate suggests it with
" quae reperietur," which Wiclif, translating from the
Vulgate, renders " that schal be foundun." The Revisers
timidly reject the " if " froai the highway of the text,
but restore it in the bypath of the margin.
EPWARP H. MARSHALL, M.A.
(8* S. xi. 9).
" Each day is a little life, and our whole life is but a
day repeated." Can
Omnia fert aetas secum, aufert omnia secura ;
Omnia tempus habent, omnia tempus habet.
Age brings all things with it, and carries all things away.
All things have their time, Time has all things
be considered a parallel passage 1 J. B. FLEMING.
The 1886 edition of Mr. Dobson's < At the Sign of the
Lyre ' has : —
The ladies of St. James's i
They 're painted to the eyes ;
Their white it stays for ever,
Their red it never dies :
But Phyllida, my Phyllida !
Her colour comes and goes ;
It trembles to a lily, —
It wavers to a rose.
In connexion with the last couplet and the name
Phyllida, it is interesting to note that the pink blossoms
of the almond-tree were called by the Greeks Pbylla.
ARTHUR MAYALL.
The ladies of St. James's, &c.,
is from one of a set of poems entitled ' At the. Sign of
the Lyre,' by Austin Dobs'on. HAROLp MALET.
NOTES ON BOOKS, &c.
The Autobiographies of Edward Gibbon. Edited by
John Murray. (Murray.)
Private Letters of Edward Gibbon, 1753-1794. Edited
by Rowland E. Prothero. 2 vols. (Same publisher.)
FEW things in literature are more surprising than that
we should have had to wait for more than a century after
the death of the author for the full text of an acknow-
ledged masterpiece by one of the greatest of English
writers. Now, even, when it is definitely set before UP,
the so-called autobiography of Edward Gibbon is in
a quasi-fragmentary state; and though we have the
work exactly in the form in which the author left it,
it is scarcely in that which it is destined ultimately to
assume. The circumstances by means of which this
state of affairs was brought about are known. John
Baker Holroyd, the first Earl of Sheffield, to whom
Gibbon left his MSS., published in 1799, in two
volumes, ' The Miscellaneous Works of Edward Gibbon,
with Memoirs of his Life and Writings.' A third
volume was added in 1815, in which year a new edition,
in five volumes, saw the light. A clause in Lord
Sheffield's will provided that no further publication
of Gibbon's MSS. should be made. So strictly has this
been observed that when, in 1842, Dean Milman produced
his edition of ' The Decline and Fall' he was permitted
access to the MSS. only on the condition of publishing
no new matter. When, in 1794, the centenary of Gib-
bon's death was commemorated, at the instance of the
Royal Historical Society, the present Lord Sheffield was
chairman of committee. After the exhibition in the
British Museum of the Gibbon MSS. and relics, a wish
was expressed that the former should be again collated,
and that the unpublished portion should be given to the
world. With this wish Lord Sheffield, who contributes
explanatory introductions to the ' Autobiographies ' and
to the ' Letters,' complied, and he gives his personal
assurance that every piece in the 4 Autobiographies '
"as the work of Edward Gibbon, is now printed exactly
as he wrote it, without suppression or emendation."
This is, of course, a priceless boon to literature, and the
volume of autobiographies edited by Mr. Murray will
remain a lasting treasure. To students of Gibbon it is
known that the historian in his later years began six
times the task of writing his memoirs. These six works,
dealing to some extent with different periods of his life,
involve very much repetition, especially concerning his
pedigree and early years. In some cases the reflections
and the quotations are the same. From these six MSS.
the first Lord Sheffield compiled the memoir which
accompanies ' The Miscellaneous Works.' The whole six
are now published in extenso, the names, for prudential
reasons left blank at first, being now, so far as possible,
filled in, and Gibbon's fragmentary and sometimes mys-
terious memoranda being elaborated into intelligibility
and affixed to the passages to which they belong. This
is all as it should be. It needs only be added that the
portions now first printed — very numerous, and often
most important— are enclosed in thick brackets [ ]. One
is reminded on reading the volume and comparing it
with the previous memoir, of the treatment accorded by
subsequent editors to Pepys until Mr. Wheatley took
heart and gave us nearly all. Exactly the same mistake
was made by the two noble editors, Lord Braybrooke
and Lord Sheffield, though the error of the former was
the more serious as to what would and would not interest
the public. It is needless to say that Gibbon gives no
such indiscreet revelations or such indecorous phrases as
abound in Pepys. ]\Jattere? however, that may perhaps
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justly be regarded as unimportant or trivial acquire in
time value aa illustrations, and purely personal facts
concerning a man of eminence, talent, or opportunities
become priceless to the public. It is impossible to give
more than a glimpse at the nature of the restorations.
On pp. 31-5 are some disclosures concerning the rela-
tions of his father and mother, and some speculations in
the fashion of the Encyclopaedist?, and in part from
Buffon, concerning his own physical birth. A declara-
tion concerning his mother, " As I had seldom enjoyed
the smiles of maternal tenderness, she was rather the
object of my respect than of my love," &c., had been
excised, as scarcely to the historian's credit. The same
fate ha'd attended the passages — very characteristic
they are — in which Gibbon declares that "a school
is the cavern of fear and sorrow." So, again, is it
with portions of his condemnation of English univer-
sity systems. Another restored passage, for the previous
absence of which it is not difficult to account, is, " And
falsehood, I will now add, is not incompatible with the
sacerdotal character." A passage we are glad to see
restored is that in which of a performance by Voltaire's
" fat and ugly niece Madame Denys " it is said that she
"could not, like our admirable Pritchard, make the
spectators forget the defects of her age and person,"
which goes some way towards compensating for John-
son's churlish utterances concerning the great actress.
We had marked for comment many other restorations,
on which considerations of space forbid us to dwell. On
pp. 204, 205, is a passage which gives one of the few
instances of Gibbon's subjugation by the fair sex; and
a few pages further on a passage is restored in which he
acknowledges how, during his stay at Lausanne, some
"riotous acts of intemperance" caused him deservedly
to forfeit the good opinion his early virtues had won
him. This book is, indeed, in every respect a treasure,
and we see our Gibbon for the first time.
Innumerable letters to the Holroyd (Sheffield) family
now first see the light in the correspondence. These
we are glad to have, though they do not show Gibbon
at his best. He is always occupied with his own pecu-
niary affairs, and seems, indeed, to have used the obliging
Lord Sheffield almost as an agent. In those letters,
even, which deal with the shock of the French Revolu-
tion, he rarely — though his condemnation of the canaille
of the Terror is strong enough— can get far away from
his private concerns. His letters to Lady Sheffield and
Miss Holroyd are better. Best of all are those to his
stepmother, his devotion to whom is one of the plea-
santest traits in his character. His passion for study is
also an acceptable feature. Still, we like him better in
his autobiographies than in his letters. Both books
are capitally edited, Mr. Prothero's task having been the
heavier. The illustrations consist of a pleasing portrait
of Gibbon, from an enamel by Bone after Sir Joshua ;
the well-known silhouette portrait, presenting the comic
little figure tapping hie snuff-box ; and a view of his
residence at Lausanne. No book of the season is likely
to earn from scholars a warmer welcome than this.
Napoleon's Opera Glass: an Histrionic Study [sic].
By Lew Rosen. (Elkin Mathews.)
THE purpose and significance of this little work are
explained by the two words, ascribed to Pope Pius VII.,
" Comediante ! " " Tragediante ! " which serve as motto.
The interview took place at Fontainebleu, where Napo-
leon raged and stormed about the floor, uttering pro-
mises, boasts, threats. In answer the Pope spoke the
one word, " Comediante," rousing Napoleon to fury. The
utterance of the second word appeased the storm, and
the conversation began on a more peaceful footing.
These utterances have inspired Mr. Rosen to present
Napoleon under the two aspects — both of them familiar,
hough the former the more familiar— of comedian and
ragedian. Besides thip, we are shown him as a critic
and patron of the drama, the friend of Talma, and the
' familiar of playwrights and players." The book thus
constituted is agreeable reading, and as the Napoleon
1 boom " is now on us, is timely also.
Pickle the Spy ; or, the Incognito of Prince Charles. By
Andrew Lang. (Longmans & Co.)
To the indefatigable industry and penetrative insight of
Mr. Lang we are indebted for the most earnest and
uccessful effort yet made to clear up the mystery that
surrounds the closing years of "Bonnie Prince Charlie."
That a full light of illumination should be thrown upon
the proceedings of the Pretender was not to be expected,
and Mr. Lang can be credited with no more than cast-
ing one or two brilliant rays athwart a gloom that can
no longer be justly described as impenetrable. Mr. Lang
has long been coquetting with tlio task he has now
espoused. In his introduction to his edition of 'Red-
gauntlet ' he deals at some length with the circumstances
attendant on the supposedly last visit of Charles to
England, and with the irreparable damage inflicted on
the Jacobite cause by the Prince's infatuation for Miss
Walkinshaw. A portion of the very materials he now
uses he placed, he informs us, in the hands of Robert
Louis Stevenson, for the purpose of forming the basis of
an historical romance. Since the death of his friend he
has determined to turn them to historical account. The
world is, accordingly, the richer for a work of useful
research in quarters not generally accessible, and of very
ingenious speculation, against which we have only to
urge that, though profoundly interesting and valuable,
it is shapeless and indigested, and less entitled to rank
as a history than as memoires pour servir. For these
things hasty execution is in part responsible. If Mr.
Lang had taken adequate pains, he would scarcely have
passed the mistake which occurs on p. 254, where the
substitution of " his " for her renders the information
supplied unintelligible, nor would he have passed one or
two errors less important but more surprising. While
on this subject, which we make glad haste to quit, may
we ask whether " Simer," near " Bulloighn," should not
be Samer, in the valley of la Liane.
The point of chief interest in the volume is the settling
definitely of the point, long debated, Who was Pickla
the spy? Mr. Lang has penetrated through all the
disguises of this miscreant, and — greatly, it may be
believed, to his own disgust — has run him to earth, dis-
covering in him no less a person than the head of a great
Highland clan. Pickle is, in fact, none other than
Alastair Ruadh Macdonnell, heir to the chieftainship of
Glengarry, and subsequently himself the thirteenth —
ominous number ! — Glengarry. The suspicion, and, aa
it seemed, almost the certainty of guilt had been cast
upon James Mohr Macgregor, or Drummond, the son of
the famous Rob Roy. Mr. Lang convincingly — to us, at
least— brings home the guilt to this great Scottish chief,
who was trusted to the last by Charles Edward, when
discarding wise and faithful friends and councillors, a
man who carried in his pocket a mandate for a peerage,
and who, as head of his clan, was held responsible for 2,600
claymores of his own clan, besides half as many more
Mackenzies, MacLeods, and Macleans. A sordid story
is that of his Judas-like conduct, and of the persistence
of his demands for his thirty pieces of silver. As a
patriotic Scot, Mr. Lang reddens in telling it, finding,
however, consolation in the fact that if he fixes upon one
countryman the burden of infamy, he removes a similar
load from the shoulders of a second. Much light is cast
upon the change of religion by Charles upon his visit to
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London in 1750, and upon the fissure in the Jacobite
party owing to the want of confidence between " James
the Third " and his son. To the amours of the Prince,
generally untoward, and to his wanderings, to the
danger he incurred of being kidnapped or slain, special
attention is directed. A pleasing picture of the Young
Chevalier during his early years is drawn, and the
political intrigues around him — base and unworthy for
the most part— by which his spirit was broken, are well
shown. So far as concerns his places of hiding when he
disappears from view, much is left to conjecture. As we
have before said, Mr. Lang has written a pleasant, an
important, and a valuable book. If it is less shapely
than we could have wished, Mr. Lang himself, by the
opportunities for comparison he has afforded, is to blame.
He will himself acknowledge that often le mieux est
Vennemi du lien.
Deacon Brodie: a Play. By R. L. Stevenson and
W. E. Henley. (Heinemann.)
CONCERNING the merits of this play for stage purposes
critics are at variance. Its claims as literature can, at
least, not be disputed. In its present shape it should be,
and probably will be, read by multitudes.
Hereward. By Lieut. -General Harward. (Stock.)
GENERAL HARWARD has apparently been drawn by two
motives to undertake writing a life of the great Saxon
patriot — a personal interest in the hero, of whom, as he
confidently believes, he is himself a lineal descendant,
and the less worthy ambition of proving that other
claimants of the same distinction have no ground for
their confidence. He treats the subject, he confesses,
as " a family rather than a public history " (p. 3). He
bears an undying grudge— no doubt by virtue of his
descent — against all nobles of Norman birth, and in
particular against Ivo de Taillebois, who was only a
" wood tollman " when he was at home (passim) ! His
genealogical investigations do not seem to us so conclu-
sive as they do to him. Granting that the two Here-
wards of Terrington in Norfolk, referred to in the
4 Historia Ecclesise Eliensis,' were respectively son and
grandson of the famous champion, there is no evidence,
BO far as we can see, for believing that John Hereward
of Pebwith was son of that grandson, as is here assumed.
With that visionary link the whole dependent chain of
descent falls to the ground. No less baseless is his
affiliation of Hereward himself to Earl Leofric 111.
From what has been said it will be seen that the book
has a polemic tone throughout, and the author does not
mince matters when be expresses his contemptuous
dissent from Prof. Freeman and Charles Kingsley. To
the unfortunate blunder of the latter in the matter of
"the Wake," he returns again and again, and a need-
lessly offensive imputation about it disfigures p. 112.
Putting aside this and other questions of taste, we
cannot say that General Harward shows much inde-
pendent historical research or special qualifications for
his task. He is very unhappy in his etymological
speculations. For many reasons we cannot believe that
the original form of Hereward was Heorn-vard, "the
sword-guardian," from A.-Sax. heorn (!), a sword
(probably heoru is the word intended, but there is no
such compound as that suggested) ; and when he pro-
ceeds to bring in Ares and other " Greek derivations,"
we become just a little impatient. However, if we do
not like this account of the name, we are at liberty
to identify it with Ariovistus (p. 8). What are "post
facto records," of which General Harward has a low
opinion (p. 4) ? It would be unkind to take advantage of
•all the opportunities of adverse criticism which we have
noted.
St. Bartholomew's Hospital Reports. Edited by Samuel
West, M.D., and W. J. Walaham, F.R.C.S.
Vol. XXXI. (Smith, Elder & Co.)
THE first two articles in the present volume of 'Hos-
pital Reports 'are written "In Memoriam." Sir Wil-
liam Savory, Bart., F.R.S., late consulting surgeon to
the hospital, died in March, 1895, and the present
sketch, by Howard Marsh and Mr. Oliver Pemberton,
brings back with almost painful vividness the man as
he appeared and was known to Bartholomew's men.
Mark Morris, the Steward of St. Bartholomew's Hos-
pital, has passed away, and there is probably not a
Bartholomew's man now living who did not know the
steward, and to whom the name will not recall one of
the most familiar faces in the hospital. His death
leaves " a bald place in the Hospital headpiece, a blank
which is and will be felt." Turning to the body of the
Reports, we are pleased to find a contribution by
Richard Gill ' On the Mechanical Factor in Chloroform-
Anaesthesia,' a subject of great importance and worthy
of careful study. With his usual ability Dr. T. Claye
Shaw writes a most engrossing article ' On Cell-
Memory,' whilst an account of ' Bacteriological Investi-
gations in Diphtheria,' and ' A Report on the Treatment
of Diphtheria by Antitoxin at this Hospital,' show that
the work carried on is kept up to date. It is needless
to mention each article separately, but a wise and wide
selection has been made in choice of subjects and cases,
rendering the present volume worthy of a place beside
its predecessors.
AN effort is about to be made by the Committee of the
Lancaster Free Library, acting on the instructions of Sir
Thomas Storey, to establish in Lancaster an historical
library, bearing not only on the history of the immediate
district of Lancaster, but on the County Palatine in
general. The library will be a special department of the
Lancaster Free Library, the home of which is the Storey
Institute, a building founded by Sir Thomas Storey, and
given by him to the town.
10
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ON all communications must be written the name and
address of the sender, not necessarily for publication, but
as a guarantee of good faith.
WE cannot undertake to answer queries privately.
To secure insertion of communications correspondents
must observe the following rule. Let each note, query,
or reply be written on a separate slip of paper, with the
signature of the writer and such address as he wishes to
appear. Correspondents who repeat queries are requested
to head the second communication "Duplicate."
SENEX ("The Burleigh Shake of the Head ").— This,
so far as we understand, refers to the great Cecil, Lord
Burleigb, and is a humorous invention of Sheridan. See
4 The Critic,' Act III. We know of no Judge Burleigh.
THOS. RATCLIFPE (" Carfindo "). — " One of the car-
penter's crew" (Smyth's 'Sailors' Word Book'). See
1 N. & Q.,' 3rd S. iv. 398 ; 6»i» S. ix. 407, 614 j x. 94.
CORRIGENDUM.— P. 46, col. 2, 1. 2 from bottom, for
"omine " read omne.
NOTICE.
Editorial Communications should be addressed to "The
Editor of ' Notes and Queries ' " — Advertisements and
Business Letters to "The Publisher "—at the Office,
Bream's Buildings, Chancery Lane, E.G.
We beg leave to state that we decline to return com-
munications which, for any reason, we do not print ; and
to this rule we can make no exception.
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
101
IOXDON, SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 6, 1897.
CONTENT S.— N° 267.
NOTES :— The Book of Common Prayer in Latin, 101— Home
Tooke's Diary, 103— Ophelia — Prof. Nichol's Poems —
Bishops' Wigs, 104— " Lane"— St. Distaff's Day—' Night
and Morning,' 105— " Baldacchino " — Letter from Elizabeth,
Lady Hervey— Flower Custom — " Layman," 106 — 'The
Oxford English Dictionary,' 107.
QUERIES:— "Braal"— Quotation of Dickens's— Tapestries
from Raphael Cartoons — High Water— Coin — " Invulta-
tion "—' Expenses of Elizabeth of York,' 107— " Non sine
pulvere "— ' The Travels of True Godliness '—Christopher
Whichcott — Quaker Characters in Opera — "Li inaisio
hierlekin "—Oldest Parish Register — Cornish Hurling—
Licences to Emigrate— Van Acker— Knightley Smith, 108
— " Dymocked " — Ralegh's Library — Nonconformist Minis-
ters—The Hague and Osnaburg — 'History of Essex' —
Stowe MSS.— ' Middlemarch,' 109.
REPLIES :— " Rarely," 109— Clementina J. S. Douglass, 110
—Sir Horace St. Paul— Launceston— Astrological Signa-
tures—"God save the King" — Blessing the Fisheries, 111
"Picksome"— OldArminghall — Beaumont College, 112—
" Peer and Flet"— Gog and Magog— Manx Dialect— Wy-
vill. 113— Theatre at Tottenham Court Road — Earls of
Halifax — Horseshoe Monuments — "To worsen " — Pen-
sioner W. Hiseland — Lamb's ' Prince Dorus ' — Wellington,
114 — Scottish Clerical Dress — Louis Philippe — ' Bleak
House,' 115—" She "— Gosforth, 116— London Directories,
117—" A Nott Stag"— Authors Wanted, 118.
NOTES ON BOOKS :— Hazlitt's ' Four Generations of a
Literary Family ' — Beeching's ' Paradise of English Poetry '
— ' Book- Prices Current.' Vol. X.— ' Scottish Poetry of the
Eighteenth Century,' Vol. II.— Spence's 'Earl Rognvald'
— Scbrbder's ' Carlyle's Abhandlung tiber Goethe's Faust '
— Angot's ' Aurora Borealis/
Notices to Correspondents.
fottt*
THE BOOK OP COMMON PRAYER IN LATIN.
So far back as the Second Series of ' N. & Q.'
(vol. ix. p. 262), a correspondent, using the letters
B. H. 0. as a signature, asks, " Where can I find
any tolerably complete account of the various Latin
versions of the English Prayer Book ?"
A very brief paragraph, in which the questioner
was referred to Procter, ' On the Book of Common
Prayer/ 1855, p. 61, and to Lathbury's ' History
of the Book of Common Prayer,' 1858, p. 61,
appeared at p. 333 of the same volume, and there
the matter dropped. I have examined the index
volumes of 'N. & Q.,' and I do not find that the
question was ever repeated, or that any further
reply was given. The bibliography of the Latin
Prayer Book certainly deserves fuller treatment;
and though I cannot for a moment profess to handle
the matter exhaustively, yet it is not difficult to
give a list of some, at least, of the printed editions.
A useful and important volume for the study
of the subject is 'The Latin Prayer Book of
Charles II. ; or, an Account of the Liturgia of
Dean Durel,' &c., by Charles Marshall, M. A., once
a prebendary of St. Paul's Cathedral, and William
Marshall, M.A., printed at Oxford in 1882.
b is, indeed, almost indispensable to the student,
have also freely used the British Museum cata-
logues, both manuscript and printed, and have had
the opportunity of collating the interesting series of
Latin Prayer Books in St. Paul's Cathedral Library.
A few editions are standing on my own shelves.
1. The earliest Latin translation with which I
am acquainted is that of Alexander Aless, a small
quarto, printed at Leipzig in 1551, of which there
is a good copy in the British Museum (221. e. 5).
It contains prefatory matter and sixty-six numbered
folios. As the book is scarce, I give the title-page
in extenso. At the top of the title in the Museum
copy is written, in a very clear hand, * Liturgia
Prima Edwardi Sexti.'
"Ordinatio Ecclesiae, eev minis terii Ecclesiastic!, in
florentissimo Regno Angliae, conscripta Sermone patrio,
& in Latinam linguam bona fide conversa, & ad consola-
tionem Ecclesiarum Christi, ubicunque locorum ac
gentium, his tristissimis temporibus, Edita, ab Alexandra-
Alesio Scoto Sacrae Theologiae Doctore.
" Lipsiae in officina Wolfgang! Gvnteri,anno M.D.LI."
The Litany commences, " Pater de coelis Deus,''
&c. , and contains the well-known petition —
" A aeditione, & conspiratione, a tyrannide Epiecopi
Romani, a falsis & Haereticis dogmatibue, & duritia cordis,
& contemtu uerbi, & mandati tui,"
Lathbury says of Aless's version that, instead of
a literal translation of a rubric, he sometimes
" gives his own notion of what he conceived to be
its intention," a method not greatly to be com-
mended. And he adds that Walter Haddon took
this translation as the groundwork for his own
book, sometimes, however, following Aless so
closely that the book of 1560 by no means gives
an accurate view of the Book of Common Prayer
of Elizabeth's reign (Lathbury, p. 61).
" Somewhat before this time [5 May, 1560] the Queen
ordered the English Common Prayer to be turned into
Latin. Dr. Walter Haddon, as some suppose, bad a
share in this version. The Queen, in her Letters
Patents [nc] of the 1st of April, recommends this
book to the use of both Universities, and to the Colleges
of Eton and Winchester."
So says Collier, 'Ecclesiastical History of Great
Britain,' vi. 298, edit. 1882.
2. Walter Haddon, LL.D. , was a civilian, born
in Buckinghamshire in 1516, died in London
21 Jan., 1571/2, not, as the Rev. George Towns-
end says, at Bruges. "Queen Elizabeth being
asked whether she preferred Buchanan or Haddon,
adroitly replied, ' Buchannum omnibus antepono,
Haddonum nemini postpone. '" See a brief but
good life of him by Thompson Cooper in the ' Dic-
tionary of National Biography.' He was admitted
President of Magdalen, Oxford, in 1552. He was
judge of the Prerogative Court, &c.
Here follows a list of the editions of his version,
compiled from the British Museum Catalogue, and
in several instances from the books themselves.
1560. Liber Precum Publicarum apud R. Volfium,
Londini, 4to. [Without date, but the date is ascertained
from the ' Cyclus Solaris.']
1571. Liber Precum apud R. Wolfium, Londini,
8vo.
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1574. Liber Precum Excusum Londini perassigna-
tionem Prancisci Florae. Colophon : Londini, Excudebat
Thomas Vautrollerius. 1574, 8vo.
1594. Liber Precum Excusum Londini, per assigna-
tionem Francisci Florae. 1594. Colophon : Londini,
Excudebat loan lacksonus. 1594. 8vo.
Of the last two editions, the Psalter is "Ad
Hebraicum veritatem, a Sebastiano Munstero quam
diligentissim& versus."
1604. Liber Precum Typia Joh. Norton, Londini.
8vo.
Of these, I possess only the editions of 1574 and
1594, but the last named has the arms of Charles I.
or James I. on the sides.
Lowndes mentions an edition in 1572, duodecimo.
This I have not seen.
3. The next translation which I have to notice
is that of Dr. John Durel, chaplain in ordinary to
Charles II., Prebendary of Windsor, Prebendary
of Durham, and possessor of other valuable prefer-
ments. He also translated the Prayer Book into
French, a task for which he was especially qualified,
having taken his Master of Arts degree at Caen.
Of this version I am acquainted with the follow-
ing editions : —
1670. The first edition. Excudit Rpgerus Nortonus
in vico vulgariter dicto Little Britain.
1680.
1685. Apud Car. Mearno.
1687.
1690.
1696.
1703. A portrait of Queen Anne prefixed.
All in duodecimo, except the first, which is in
octavo.
I possess two copies of the edition of 1670, one
of which has no plates, but the other has a por-
trait of Charles II. facing the title, and a series of
plates of apostles, scriptural events illustrating the
festivals, and certain other plates attached to
special forms of prayer. Amongst these last is the
curious plate of 'King Charles the First Mur-
thered,' in which the block is represented as a
long low log of wood. The Psalms are "juxta
Vulgatam Latinorum Versionem."
In my copy of the edition of 1685 there is a
frontispiece representing a kneeling female figure,
receiving from an angel a scroll inscribed with the
words " Liturgia Ecclesise Anglicanse."
4. Next after Dr. Durel's translation follow the
numerous editions of Thomas Parsel or Parsell,
who was head master of Merchant Taylors' School,
appointed in 1707, and who died July, 1720.
The psalms, epistles, and gospels, " inseruntur
juxta Sebastiani Castellionis Versionem." In some
editions, besides the usual special forms are found,
as in the edition of 1759 now before me, the
"Forma Precum secundo die Septembris" (the
Fire of London), " Forma Strumosos Attrectandi,"
"Articuli," "Forma Precum Convocationis. " All
these forms are found in the edition of 1727 : the
first and second are not found in the issue of 1706.
The last-named recension, that of 1706, has the
curious reading in the lesser litany, " Miserere
nostri, Jova" ; in the Litany "Parce nobis, Jova,"
"Ne nos, Jova, pro nostris peccatis tracta," and,
instead of the familiar " Dominus vobiscum,"
"Vobisadsit Jova."
A frontispiece found in several editions of this
book represents the interior of a church. On the
left the pulpit, reading-desk, and clerk's desk, a
clergyman saying prayers, the congregation kneeling
on the marble floor (one has a kneeling-cushion) ;
in the background the altar, above it the symbolic
triangle, surrounded by cherubs. This is found in
1727, 1759, and, no doubt, in other editions ; it is
not in my copy of 1706.
The translation of the Lord's prayer is
peculiar : —
" Pater noster, qui es in coelis, sancte colatur Norn en
Tuum. Veniat regnum Tuum. Fiat voluntas Tua, ut
in coelo, sic et in terra. Victum nostrum alimentarium
da nobis hodie. Et remitte nobis debita nostra, ut et
nos remittimus debitoribus nostris. Neve nos in tenta-
tionem inducito, sed a malo tuere. Quoniam Tuum est
regnum, et potentia, et gloria in sempiternum. Amen."
So it stands in 1713, 1727, 1733, 1744, 1759, now
before me, and probably in other editions also.
Whatever may be the literary merits of this trans-
lation, it seems very harsh to those familiar with
the rendering of the Vulgate.
Editions of Parsell's Version.
1706. First edition, 12mo.
1713, Editio altera.
1716. Editio altera.
1720. Editio tertia, 8vo.
1727. Editio quarta, 12nao.
1733. Editio quinta, 12mo.
1744. Editio sexta, 8vo.
1759. Editio septima, 8vo. (Booksellers.)
All published in London.
5. The next version appears to be that of
Edward Harwood, D.D., a classical scholar and
biblical critic ; born in 1729, died 14 January,
1794. In the 'Diet. Nat. Biog.' he is said to
have been a Presbyterian minister. I can^only
enumerate the following editions : —
1785. 12mo.
1791. 12mo.
1800. Editio tertia, 16mo.
1820. 24mo.
1821. 32mo. and foolscap 8vo. (Bagster.)
1834.
1840. Editio octava, 16mo.
1848. (J. W. Parker.) 12mo.
1866.
6. Later on comes the interesting version of
Canons Bright and Medd, which has already
passed through three editions : —
1865. 8vo. London.
1869. [1868.1 8vo. London.
1877. 8vo. London, Oxford, Cambridge.
7. Not, indeed, as a complete Latin Prayer
Book, but as an important version, must be men-
tioned the "Liber Precum Ecclesise Cathedralis
8th S. XI. FEB. 6, '97.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
Christi, Oxon. Oxoniae, e Theatro Sheldoniano,"
8vo. Of this I possess the edition of 1726. There
are other editions in 1615 and 1639.
May I venture to ask for corrections and addi-
tions to this attempt at a bibliography of the
Latin translations of the Book of Common Prayer?
W. SPARROW SIMPSON.
HORNE TOOKE'S DIARY.
(Continued from p. 62.)
Monday, June 16, 1794. Kinghorn tells me that I shall
have only one warder (henceforward) ; that he told the
Governour one was enough. Underwood the new warder
this week. At r, past 3 Dr. Pearson & Mr. Olive paid
me a visit together, Kinghorn coming with them &
sitting close to hear my complaint, & their words in
answer. I desired them both to observe what sort of
custody I was in, & I added [here the author narrates
how he purposely used some coarse language when pre-
paring himself for the doctor's examination, in order
to get rid of Kinghorn who] had just the modesty to
rise from his chair & go to the door in the ante room.
In two minutes Kinghorn returned. Dr. Pearson would
then have given me two ten pound Bank notes which Mr.
Vaughan had sent me, but Kinghorn took them examined
them & gave them to me. I desired Pearson & Olive to
see my girls, to conceal from them my treatment & my
health, & to desire them to send me some fruit.
Tuesday, June 17. Kinghorn told me that Hayne,
Bonney's brother in law (who was at first permitted to
visit Bpnney) has been forbidden to visit Bonney at the
same time that Vaughan had been forbidden to visit me.
Wednesday, June 18. Dr. Pearson paid me a visit.
Insulted by a eerjeant. Mr. Weston declines being my
attorney. Respects & loves me. Is anxious to be em-
ployed on the occasion ; but has married Mr. Styles'a
(Commier of Customs) daughter, & does not dare to be
employed.
Thursday, June 19. An insolent soldier— the second
time. (The first time a handkerchief.) Mr. Olive paid
me a visit. N.B. He was obliged to wait an hour & a
half. He will apply to Mr. Nepean.
Friday, June 20, 1794. I walked only half an hour for
the same reason (this is the third time). Mr. Olive has
seen Nepean, thinks him not friendly.
Saturday. Overslept myself a full hour. Did not rise till
seven. Sent fruit & vegetables to all the prisoners & to K.
Sunday, June 22. Mr. Pitt at Privy Council quarrelled
last week with Mr. W. H. Sharp. Sharp words passed
on both sides. Reeves said — " Well we can do without
his evidence, Let him be sent to prison, & hanged with
the rest of them in the Tower." Mr. Pitt ordered him to
be sent to the Tower. Lord Grenville opposed it.
Wednesday, June 25. Adjutant Brice paid me a long
visit, & was very civil, & perfectly well behaved.
Friday, June 27. Kinghorn tells me that the Governor
has a letter for me from Melton Mowbray, which he
cannot read & therefore shall carry to the Privy Council.
L never knew any one at or near Melton Mowbray, &
have no correspondent anywhere in the World. What
therefore this can mean it is impossible for me to con-
jecture. Perhaps the beginning of some scheme against
me by Messrs. Reeves & his employers. I fear them not :
trust without the smallest doubt that falsehood of
every kind will from its nature furnish ample means for
its own detection.
Wednesday, July 2. Mr. Olive paid me a visit. Mr.
the Special Pleader is employed by the Attorney
General to draw Indictment.
Friday, July 4. I have been this day 7 weeks in close
Custody without any charge or accusation, & all I know
or can conjecture of the cause which is to be pretended,
is, that Mr. Dundas told me "It was conceived (he would
not say by whom or why) that I was an active & leading
member of the Corresponding & Constitutional Societies ;
& had been guilty of treasonable practices." I sent
fruit & vegetables to each of the prisoners, i. e., to
Bonny, Kyd, Joyce, Martin, Richter, Hardy, Thelwal,
T • L
Loveit.
Saturday, July 5. Kinghorn bro1 me a message from
Bonney : " that he had sure intelligence from Mrs.
Bonney, that the trials were to come on immediately, by
the special order of the King, who was eager for them."
I believe I am 58 years old this day.
Monday. July 7. I received my weekly pension of
13s. 4d. My expenses are at least 7 pounds or guineas
per week.
Wednesday, July 9. Mr. Clive visited me. The Allies
quit Flanders. In 1777 after I had been in the King's
Bench about 7 weeks (I believe) Gen1 Burgoyne was
captured at Saratoga : (i. e., the news of it reached us).
When I had been 7 weeks in the tower, the allied armies
retired from Flanders & Brabant ! ! !
Monday, July 14. I read this day in all the papers
" yesterday Mr. Pitt with a party of his friends dined
with several members of both houses of parliament at
Mr. Dundas's villa at Wimbledon." The air no doubt
blew fresher on them, from the consideration that his
next door neighbour was sent to spend his summer a
close prisoner in the tower ; & they might contemplate
with luxury the forlorn condition of my poor disconsolate
girls. " For thee fair freedom, welcome all the past."
Sunday, July 20. Walking about my room I accident-
ally stopped for a minute looking out of my window at
a boat on the Thames. The wharf was full of people
and to my surprize they all together suddenly pulled off
their hats to me ; this is the first time that such a cir-
cumstance has happened, though at different times
different individuals have done it as they passed. They
repeated it two or three times ; I was forced to bow to
them, and immediately retired from the window.
Monday, July 21, 1794. Mr. Clive visited me. A most
unpleasant story about Mr. Frost and his behaviour to
my maid. It has much distressed my family. The maid
is gone, and a stranger come in her place. Mr. Frost has
very properly been refused admittance to my house.
The villains who have taken me from my family without
the slightest pretence ! If there were not a Hell, it
would be an impeachment of Providence.
Tuesday, July 22. The papers tell us we are to be tried
at the Old Bailey in September.
Thursday, July 24, 1794. I have worked hard with my
Chaucer. There are 40 Warders, but only 20 attend ;
the other 20 have leave of absence. Ten have the care
of the gate.
Friday, July 25. I have this day been ten weeks in
close custody. In this so close custody I have had time
to review my life that is passed ; and I cannot find any
one action that I have committed, any word that I have
written, any syllable that I have uttered, or any single
thought that I have entertained, of a political nature,
which I wish either to conceal or to recall.
Saturday, July 26. Kinghorn tells me that Joyce has
permission to walk about the Tower. Kinghorn repeats
to me again, that he has orders to sit close to me, &
to hear every word that I speak to my surgeon. Mr. Olive
visited me. Kinghorn close whilst operation.
Monday, July 28. Wallace told, me that Governor
Vernon, when he appointed him to assist Kinghorn,
told Wallace he was to stand close & listen to every
word ; & that if any Visitor, wife, child or other, spoke
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low or spoke seditiously or any thing improper, Wallace
should take them away & turn them out. So these
Gaolers & Warders are made judges of sedition, Miser-
able England 1 !
Friday, Aug. 1. I have this day been eleven weeks in
close custody ; at this hot season & uncommonly hot
summer in one room day & night; the same room for all
occasions natural, &c., without a possibility of conjectur-
ing charge.
Sunday, Aug. 3. I applied through Kinghorn to the
Governour tbat Mould, my landlord, might continue to
attend me, giving my reasons of more cleanliness &
comfort. Kinghorn tells me the Governour had no
objection, but would send for Warders & ask their choice,
as he would give them no subject to complain, for they
got about 14 shillings a week at gate, & are allowed 17
shillings for attending prisoners. Warders on application
to them chose to attend me by rotation weekly. They
always dine with me. The Governour therefore directed
their choice to govern. I am much obliged to the
Governour, who promised me every indulgence in his
power when first I entered the Tower !
Monday, Aug. 4. I asked Kinghorn if I was permitted
to go to the Record Office. He would ask the Governour.
He came afterwards to tell me that no person was at any
time permitted to see it without an order from the
Secretary of State; that the Governour had not yet
seen it.
Tuesday, Aug. 5. Kinghorn tells me Governour will
see me in a few days. Dr. Pearson visited me ; brought
me Zoonomia by Dr. Darwen. Tells me that Dr. De
Sails expressed his astonishment at the supposition that
I was an enemy to King & Lords : for that he (Dr. De
Salis) was present at the Crown & Anchor, when they
hooted me for defending the Constitution & Government
of England, by Kings, Lords & Commons. This was
when Newman was Sheriff, who threatened me upon
Sheridan's motion : to which I wished an amendment
lest Sheridan's too general approbation of French revolu-
tion should mislead men. Not obtaining amendment I
made a separate subsequent motion & carried it. Quod
vide. Major Cartwright has been refused (permission)
by Privy Council to visit me. Mr. Bosville applied for
permission & (was) refused unless he would declare upon
his honour he had some serious business with me.
G. J. W.
(To be continued.)
OPHELIA. — Whence Shakespeare derived this
name for the lady of our love and pity in * Hamlet '
I am unable to ascertain. I suppose there is no
other origin for it than the Greek wc/jeAia, but it
would be interesting to know if it was borne by
any lady in history or fiction before Shakespeare
made it immortal and popularized it as a baptismal
name for his countrywomen of succeeding genera-
tions. The only instance known to me of its use
prior to his time is in the 'Arcadia* of Jacopo
Sannazaro, who bestows it on one of the herd folk
whom he introduces into his pictures of pastoral
life. Ofelia (such is the Italian form) first appears
in prosa iv. without indication of sex, but in
prosa ix. masculinity is declared in the words, " II
nostro Ofelia, offeso da tanta salvatichezza, si come
colui che piacevolissimo era e gratioso," &c. Of
Ofelia's musical ability we have evidence in prosa iv.,
and the " salvatichezza " which now offends him is
the behaviour of a goatherd who, surprised by his
fellow peasants discoursing sweet music to his herd
with lyre and song, hides his lyre and ceases sing-
ing in resentment at being disturbed. It may
console those who regret that the name was first
given in literature to a male shepherd to reflect
that he was no churl. F. ADAMS.
PROF. NICHOL'S POEMS. — The author of ' Mona
Maclean,' writing ' Halcyon Days/ a Glasgow
story, in Blackivood for January, quotes two
stanzas from Nichol's 'Donna Vera,' and names
the book from which they are taken ' Theocritus
and other Poems/ Of course, novelists and story-
tellers take liberties with facts to adapt them to
their fancies ; but as no purpose can possibly be
served by change of name in this case there seems
no reason why it should have been made. The
title of Prof. Nichol's volume is, of course, ' The
Death of Themistocles and other Poems.'
THOMAS BAYNB.
Helensburgh, N.B.
BISHOPS' WIGS. — A recent inquiry concerning
the time and manner in which bishops of the
Church of England were relieved of the wig,
which is so conspicuous an object in seventeenth
and eighteenth century portraits of bishops, has
suggested my sending to *N. & Q.,' for the use of
future inquirers, a few notes and extracts which
were collected a year or two ago. In the * Life of
Bishop Sumner of Winchester ' reference may be
found to this part of the episcopal costume. Under
the date 19 May, 1826, when describing the con-
firmation of his appointment to the see of Llandaff,
the bishop wrote : —
"On this occasion I sallied out for the first time
equipped in my wig, though without the loss of my
hair, as I have reserved to myself the comfort of wearing
it for these last two days. On Sunday morning it
finally falls, and you must prepare your eyes for a trans-
mogrified head on your return. However I am more and
more convinced of the propriety of it, and you will be
soon reconciled to the sight of it."
Ten days later, in another letter, he informed his
wife that his wig was " admitted on all hands to
be a good one of the kind," and that opinions as
to its effect upon him were various. *' My head,"
he continued,
"is now becoming a little more accustomed to it, and I
have less the sensation of feeling it always in a pillory."
— 'Life of Charles Richard Sumner,' D.D.,' by the Rev.
G. H. Sumner, chap. vii.
Dr. Bagot, on his preferment to the see of
Oxford, made an attempt to obtain dispensation
from the custom which made the wig a part of the
episcopal dress. In a letter to Bishop Blomfield,
dated 3 Aug., 1829, Mr. Lyttelton referred witl
some humour to this attempt, saying : —
"A wig-question, in which your Lordship is con-
cerned, and your name confidently appealed to, has
fallen under my notice during my stay here with my
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friend, the newly-appointed, and yet wigless, Bishop of
Oxford : and before I leave his house, I think I cannot
do better than at once to refer the matter to you, and to
beg you to acquaint me, or him (when you meet him,
•which I understand you will in a few weeks) with your
opinion, which will be [final, on the subject in debate.
The enclosed document will at ouce show your Lordship
the important nature of this capital controversy ; and I
•will say no more upon it, than that as I wish heartily
well to the heads of the Church, I sincerely hope it may
be settled to their advantage and comfort."
What the document here mentioned was does
not appear, but Dr. Bagot had to submit himself
to the process alluded to in Bishop Sumner's corre-
spondence, and it was not until after the accession
of William IV. that royal sanction was given to a
discontinuance of use of the wig by bishops. The
manner in which this was brought about is
described in the late Bishop of Colchester's
memoir of his father, Bishop J. C. Blomfield. Sir
George Sinclair, we are told, happened to be at
Fulham Palace just before paying a visit to the
king at Brighton, and asking whether the bishop
had any message to send, he received a reply which
was meant as a jocular allusion to the extreme heat
of the weather. " You may present my duty to
His Majesty," said the prelate,
" and say that at this tropical season I find my episcopal
wig a serious encumbrance, and that I hope he will not
consider me guilty of a breach of Court etiquette, if I am
induced to lay it aside."
Intending to amuse the king, Sir George repeated
what had been said. The message was taken
seriously, and drew forth the answer —
" Tell the Bishop that he is not to wear a wig on my
account ; I dislike it as much as he does, and shall be
glad to see the whole Bench wear their own hair."
Bishop Blomfield seized the opportunity, discarded
the wig, and was gradually imitated by his epis-
copal brethren (' Memoirs of Bishop Blomfield,'
i. 97). After a serious illness, in 1832, Bishop
Sumner left off wearing his wig habitually, and
allowed his hair to grow again ; but he continued
its use for some years whenever he was performing
episcopal functions. F. JARRATT.
THE ETYMOLOGY OP "LANE." — In the Peak of
Derbyshire a lane is called a " leen," and occa-
sionally, though rarely, a "lone.'' On the other
hand, such a word as "pay," to discharge a debt
is pronounced "pee," as, "He wilna pee may"
(" He won't pay me"). In Leeds a lane is known as
a " loin," and Yorkshire people sometimes speak,
by way of a joke, of a Leeds man as a " Lades
loiner," i.e., a Leeds man who lives in a lane. A
road in Morley, near Leeds, is known as Scatcher
Loin. A long, straight road, with no hedges or
walla on either side, which runs across the moors
between Ringinglow and Fox House, near Sheffield,
is known as the Long Line.
One would expect the form "loin" to point
back to a short o, and in that case the older form
would be " Ion " or " lone." The first of these
forms is to be found in Old Frisian, and the second
In Middle English. But is it not possible that
the Derbyshire pronunciation has preserved the
right form of the word ? If so, " leen " represents
a long i, as in Lat. Imea, a string or line. I have
a reference to Hyginus, * De Limit.,' pp. 151, 152,
ed. Goes, where Imea is used in the sense of a
boundary-line or narrow path separating single
fields. If "shire," "shore," and "share" are
allied words, are not " line," " lone," and " lane "
also allied? Compare " strind," a string, in my
Sheffield Glossary,' with "strine" or "strind,"
a ditch. S. 0. ADDY.
ST. DISTAFF'S DAY. — In the calendar of
' Whitaker's Almanack ' for the present year there
is the entry for 7 January, the day after the
Epiphany, "St. Distaffs Day." I suppose the
object is to remind us of a custom which has
become obsolete, though it may be that the name
is still used in some parts of England. If such
is the case, I should like to know what counties
still retain the name, and whether the day is in
any way kept up. I am not asking for any in-
formation about " Plough Monday." In Herrick's
'Hesperides' there is a poem on * Saint Dis-
taffs Day,' in which you are reminded that
Partly worke and partly play
Ye must on S. Distaffs day.
But says Herrick : —
If the Maides a-spinning goe,
Burne the flax, and fire the tow.
Afterwards, in retaliation, the maids have their
turn : —
Bring in pailes of water then,
Let the maides bewash the men.
Are there any allusions in literature to this
practice subsequent to Herrick's time? In
Grosart's * Herrick,' 1876, vol. iii. p. 55, there is
the following note : —
" ' I have not hitherto met with any record of this
saint, nor was I aware that such ever occurred in our
calendar St. Distaff is perhaps only a coinage of our
poets, to designate the day, when the Christmas vacation
being over, good housewives, with others, resumed their
usual employment.' N. Good Dr. Nott is perhaps too
absurdly matter-of-fact. Probably St. Distaff was a
piece of rustic witticism."
F. 0. BIKKBECK TERRY.
LORD LYTTON'S 'NIGHT AND MORNING.' —
After the lapse of perhaps forty years, I have
lately read this romance for the second time, and
have been struck by the evidence it affords of the
comparative antiquity of some of the most fondly
cherished solecisms of the modern novelist and
leader-writer. I have not found chaperone or
dishabille in it, but locale, in the sense of a place
or locality, occurs more than once, and it seems
evident that Lord Lytton, like half of the writers
of the present day, was ignorant of the facts that
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locale does not exist as a substantive in French,
that as an adjective it is the feminine of local,
and that, if it is necessary to use it at all, the
substantive local expresses the required meaning.
In book iii. chap. xii. one of the characters is
described as lying " in a miserable grabat, or
garret." Grabat does not mean a garret, but a
pallet bed, or any bed of a mean and cheap
description. At the end of book iv. chap, xi., "a
dormeuse-and-four drove up to the inn door to
change horses." The meaning of dormeuse is
evidently a travelling carriage in which one could
sleep comfortably ; but the word seems to have
become quite obsolete.
Can any reader of * N. & Q.' favour me with
the words of the " Bacchanalian hymn n referred
to in book iii. chap. iv. , which began : —
Oh ! have you e'er heard of the famed Captain Wattle ?
I cannot find it in any song-book to which I have
access. W. F. PRIDEAUX.
" BALDACCHINO. " — In 'A Student's Pastime,'
§ 319, Prof. Skeat says: "I suppose the word
baldacchino is related to Arab, baldat, a city." The
It. word baldacchino is properly the name of a silk
stuff, so called because it was manufactured at
Bagdad. The It. form for the word Bagdad was
Baldacco. This is the explanation given in Hatz-
feld's ' Diet.' («.«. " Baldaquin "), and in the ' New
English Dictionary ' (s. v. " Baldachin "). It is
also given in Littr^'s great dictionary. The change
of gd into Id in Romanic is not without analogy.
It occurs in other cases, cp. It. smeraldo, emerald,
with Lat. smaragdus, Gr. cr/i,apay8os. We may
also compare It. sdlma, a load, a burden, which is
the same word as Gr. o-ay/^a, a pack-saddle.
A. L. MATHEW.
Oxford.
LETTER FROM ELIZABETH, LADY HARVEY TO
HER FATHER, EDWARD, SECOND BARON MON-
TAGU, OF BOUGHTON. — The following letter is
copied from the collection of Montagu MSS. at
Ditton Park (see 8th S. vii. 303). For particulars
concerning the writer see 8td S. vii. 201. Her
daughter Elizabeth was the first wife of Thomas,
second Earl of Stamford. At the time of the
desertion of her by her husband, referred to in this
letter, she would be only sixteen years of age, if
the year of her birth is correctly given as 1659.
This particular matrimonial quarrel must have
been satisfactorily arranged, for this wife certainly,
after the date of this letter, bore her husband two
sons and a daughter (?). The original letter is torn
in places : —
Dec' ye 15: 1675.
MY LORD, — I have not troubled your Lorpp with
account of my Lord Stanford's follys & impertinences,
because they are so many for a letter, or for anybody's
patience, so that I will only tell your LorpP in short,
that after his uncle had made him so imprudent, as to dair
fall out with me, he haa made him Leave his wife with-
out telling Mr why he Left hir, or whither he went, so
that she must shift for hirself, as I mem to do, for I am
extremely to have the settlement I haue made of my
Lord Stanford's estate and so my daughter to haue
nothing, unless I will quietly give Mr. Augetcll* pay ; the
inheritance, wch I am sure now he shall never haue,
unless he can get it by forse, I do not doubt but that
the settlement is very good, how ever my daughter shall
know that hazard for hirself wch I do not take to be near
so great as that I haue ventured for hir.
My Lord, if my Lord Stanford shall haue the con-
fidence to wait on your Lorpp I hope you will be pleased
to Resent his ingratitude to me, so much as to give him
but a very cold wellcome, which he deserues upon his
own account as well as upon mine, for I never mett with
such a pittifull creatur. I ask your LorPP'8 pardon for this
trouble who am
Your Lordship's dutifull and most
obedient daughter
E. HARVEY.
The married life of Lord Stamford and his iirst
wife seems to have been a particularly unhappy
one. Famfly tradition says that in a fit of temper,
caused by her husband's ill treatment, she set fire
to the curtains of her bed, and thus caused the fire
at Bradgate House.
Nichols, in his * History of Leicestershire/ vol. iii,
p. 679, says : —
"About this period (1694) the house at Bradgate was
purposely set on fire (according to one tradition) by the
then Countess of Stamford. The fire began in the North-
west tower, in which the noble earl then elept, and
where the ends of the burned beams are still to be seen.
Only a small part of the house, however, was injured,
there being a large reservoir of water on that tower,
supplied by leaden pipes across the forest from a spring
in Lea-wood, about two miles distant. The countess,
with her infant daughter, Lady Diana, narrowly escaped
with their lives. The lady, as appears by a print of her.
engraved by Thompson, from a painting by Lely, was a
remarkably handsome woman; but after so unpardon-
able an attempt, a separation took place ; and his lord-
ship married secondly, about 1695, Mary, daughter and
coheir of Joseph Maynard, Esq."
CHAS. WISE.
Weekley, Kettering.
FLOWER CUSTOM. — I extract the following from
the Pontefract and Castleford Express of 4 Jan. : —
" Less than sixty years ago it was the custom at Birkin
for the clerk to present the rector with a nosegay of
flowers before the beginning of the morning service on
Christmas Day. This nosegay the rector carried with
him wherever he went, to desk, pulpit, or altar, during
the service. Is that practice still observed] It cer-
tainly was in the time of the Kev. George Alderson, who
was rector in 1835 ; but we suspect it, too, has gone with
the rest."
J. T. F.
Winterton, Doncaster.
"LAYMAN." (See 8th S. xi. 4.)— Let a protest
be entered against the use of this word of a non-
professional person of any sort. Such use is of
modern and newspaper origin. See * N. & Q.,'
7"> S. v. 193.
W. C. B.
* Mr, Augetell Grey, the uncle referred to above.
* S, XI. FEE, 6, '97.]
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* THE OXFORD ENGLISH DICTIONARY. ' — The
following lines from the Daily News of 30 Jan.
will be of interest to your contributors : —
" We noticed the other day that the letter D in the
great 'Oxford Dictionary' had now been completed.
The following jeu cTesprit has been addressed by Prof.
Skeat to Dr. Murray on the occasion of his beginning
the letter H :—
I 'm glad that you 've done — so I hear you say —
With words that begin with D,
And have left H. B. to be Glad and Gay
With the Glory that waits on G :
And you laugh Ha ! Ha ! defying fate,
As you tackle the terrible aspirate,
The H that appals the Cockney crew,
Lancashire, Essex, and Shropshire too,
For they cannot abide the Hunter's Horn,
And hold e'en Heavenly Hosts in scorn :
And I fear there are some that can scarcely say
Why you didn't give Hat when you worked at A,
Whose utterance leaves some doubt between
The human Hair and an Air serene,
The Harrow that creeps and the Arrow that flie?,
The Heels where chilblains are wont to rise
And the nice fat Eels that are baked in pies !
We all rejoice on this New Year's Day
To hear you are fairly upon your way
To Honour and Happiness, Hope and Health —
I would you were nearer to Worldly Wealth.
'H. B.,' of course, is Mr. Henry Bradley, who is editing
\T«
SEQUIN.
We must request correspondents desiring information
on family matters of only private interest to affix their
names and addresses to their queries, in order that the
answers may be addressed to them direct.
{BRAAL." — Jamieson gives this as a Forfar
word, occurring in the phrase "There's nae a
braal to the fore," i. €., " There's not a fragment
remaining." Is the word still in use in any part
of Scotland 1 THE EDITOR OF THE
•ENGLISH DIALECT DICTIONARY.'
The Clarendon Press, Oxford.
A QUOTATION OF DICKENS'S. — Can any one
tell me who was the " traveller of honoured name "
who, about 1800-10, wrote as to America : —
Oh but for such, Columbia's days were done,
Bank without ripeness, &c. ?
' Martin Chuzzlewit,' chap. xvi.
ANDREW LANG.
THE TAPESTRIES FROM THE EAPHAEL CARTOONS.
-Nine pieces were sold at the sale of the goods of
Charles ]. for 4,4292. 5s., described as Arras hang-
ings of the history of the Acts of the Apostles.
What was the subsequent history of this set 1
D.
HIGH WATER AT LONDON BRIDGE.— Can any
of your readers tell me the reason why it has been
found convenient to refer to the time of high or
low tide at Condon Bridge, in order, tp calculate
i
the time of high or low water at any port in England
or Wales 1 Why London Bridge especially ?
CYCLOPS.
COIN. — I have in my possession an article of
which I should be glad to know the name and
value. It is not a coin proper, but appears to be
intended to represent value for some definite
purpose or other. It was found by a fisherman in
the sand off Southwold, in Suffolk .after a heavy
storm, at a place where coins, rings, and similar
small articles sometimes turn up after stormy
weather, some probably lost by visitors in the
summer time, others (mostly coins ancient or
modern) washed out of the cliffs or cast up from
wrecks. The material is brass, or some metal
closely resembling brass. In shape it is round
and flat, its diameter is exactly one inch, and
thickness one-eighth of an inch, the weight 9 dwt.
12 grs. There is a small beading towards the
edge, but the outer rim is flat and smooth. It has
the words "Thirty-six shillings" stamped upon
it in plain modern letters within a kind of shield
or scroll. Both sides are alike in all respects.
There is a similar article in Southwold with the
inscription "Seventy -two shillings," and just
double the weight of the former, which it closely
resembles. The owner found it in a collection of
coins, but knows nothing more about it.
NUMISMATIST.
"INVULTATION."— Is there any work dealing
with the art of invultatio, or moulding waxen
images for magical purposes 1 Lenormant, writing
of Chaldsean magic, says : —
" Nous avons done ici 1'enchantement par des paroles
que recite le sorcier, ce que les Latins appelaient carmen,
d'ou est venu notre mot ckarme, 1'emploi d' l oeuvres,' de
pratiques mysterieusea et d'objets ensorceles qui pro-
duisent un effet irresistible, pratiques dont une des
principales est I'envoutement," &c.— ' La Magie chez les
Chaldeens,' Paris, 1874, p. 57.
In Mr. N. B. Denny's ' Folk-lore of China ' it is
stated that the Chinese are proficient in the art
of invultatio, and we know that Western witches,
high and low, in castles and cottages, practised
this devil's art. Both Horace and Virgil refer to
it, and it seems to have had a world- wide vogue.
The life-size waxen images offered by votaries
at the shrines of saints seem to have been a sancti-
fied adaptation of the practice of the sorcerers.
I cannot find invultatio in any Latin dictionary
to which I have access, and envodtement in French
dictionaries seems to be imperfectly translated by
bewitching. In no English dictionary can I find
invultation, but Funk & Wagnalls have invul-
tuation. What authority is there for this ?
JAMES HOOPER.
TRIVY PURSE EXPENSES OF ELIZABETH OF
YORK.'— A work was published in 1830 by Sir N.
Harris Nicolas, entitled ' Privy Purse Expenses of
Elizabeth of York,' being a copy of the account
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[8«» g. xi. FEB. 6, '97.
book of her treasurer or secretary, Richard Decons,
edited with notes. Will you kindly, through your
valuable periodical, have me informed where the
original document which Sir Harris copied is now
deposited ? I am anxious to refer to it. E. D.
"NoN SINE PULVERE." — What is the locus
classicus of this phrase? I think the Dean of
Canterbury used to be very fond of it. Q. V.
["Sine pulvere," Hor., 'Epist.,' i. i. 51.]
* THE TRAVELS OF TRUE GODLINESS, from the
beginning of the World to this Present Day ; in
an Apt and Pleasant Allegory.' — The second edition
of this work, by B. K(each), appeared in 1683.
What is the date of the first edition ? Bunyan's
' Pilgrim's Progress ' was published in 1678.
There is not much similarity between the two,
but some of the names given to the characters
in the ' Travels ' suggest the more famous work,
e. g., Legalist, Faintheart, Fearman, Worldly
Wiseman, and Apollyon. 0. C. B.
CHRISTOPHER WHICHCOTT.— Does any portrait
exist of Christopher Whichcott, Governor of
Windsor Castle, temp. Civil War ?
E. E. THOTTS.
QUAKER CHARACTERS IN OPERA. — The approach-
ing production in England of Leoncavallo's * Chat-
terton ' reminds me of a query that I ought to have
sent from Eome in March. The opera was just
being brought out ; and, in glancing casually over
the cast, I noticed among the characters "un vecchio
quacquero." Mr. Birrell, in his excellent essay on
' Authors in Court ' (' Res Judicatse,' ed. 1896, 233),
remarks that " a sailor on horseback, or a Quaker
at the play, suggests that incongruity which is the
soul of things humorous." The " vecchio quacquero "
on the Roman playbill tickled me and a Friend of
my acquaintance in an even greater degree. I
should be glad to know whether this is the first
instance in which a Quaker is a character in opera
— specially Italian opera. Q. V.
"Li MAISIE HIERLEKIN." (See Derivation of
' Harlequin,' 8th S. x. 472).— At the moment I am
unable to refer to Prof. Skeat's ' Dictionary ' as to
the O.F. phrase "li maisie hierlekin," as quoted
by MR. JOHN HEBB at the above reference ; but is
that phrase old French ; and, if so, in what French
author may it be found ? The Maisne Hellequin,
or household of the evil knight Hellequin, seems
to have been a company of knights and barons
condemned for their evil deeds to wander till
doomsday through forests and waste places. Their
horses and dogs were demons in animal form, and
the most wicked among them was doomed to take
the form of the hunted animal. Perhaps "li
maisie hierlekin " may be a dialectal variant ; but in
any case I should be glad to know more of the
wicked knight Hellequin, and of any proved or
probable connexion of his name with the Italian
arlechino, said to have entered Franco as arlequin
in the sixteenth century. JAMES HOOPER.
Norwich.
OLDEST PARISH REGISTER. — What is the oldest
known parish register in England ; and was any
kind of register kept before 1536 ?
E. E. THOYTS.
CORNISH HURLING. — Hunt's description of
hurling in his * Popular Romances of the West of
England ' and the account of the game which was
given in the Sketch a few weeks ago both show
that this sport nearly resembles the Lincolnshire
hood-game described in Folk-lore, December,
1896, and that it is also very similar to the ball-
play between neighbouring parishes till lately
well known in France. What were the days —
ecclesiastical festivals or otherwise — on which
hurling was usually commenced while it was still
general in Cornwall ? And what local differences
occurred in the manner of playing ? It appears
to be almost certain that the ball-games between
certain districts, when traditionally connected
with religious festivals and churches, are Christian
adaptations of heathen ceremonies relating to the
sun (Folk-lore, vii. 343, 347). Can any reader of
* N. & Q.J inform me whether other forms of the
hurling are traceable in the United Kingdom, and
whether many instances of such games have been
noted on the Continent ? M. F.
LICENCES TO EMIGRATE, 1635. — Were all com-
pelled to take out these licences ? — as I fail to find
William Hersey, who settled at Hingham, Mass.,
1635. He seems to have been related to the
Gilman, or Gillman family in England, and later
on in New England. Are there any other documents
likely to give any clue to his place of embarkation ?
A. C. H.
VAN ACKER OR ACKERE. — Any information
regarding Francis and Nicholas van Acker or
Ackere will be acceptable to me. Who were they ;
and how were they related ? In the * State Papers
(Dom.) ' is a letter dated " in Fulham parish,"
2 Nov., 1625, from Francis van Ackere to Sir
Robert Pye, stating that he was not in any way able
to advance the great sum of money solicited on a
Privy Seal and that he had been "clean driven
out of his trade," having had great losses. I find
Nicholas was living at Fulham in 1639.
CHAS. JAS. FERET.
KNIGHTLET SMITH. — According to Nichol's
' History of Leicestershire,' Knightley Smith, of
Leire, who married Darrell Jervis, died in 1722 ;
he had a sister Susan, who died 1792. In a foot-
note to the Jervis pedigree, in the same work, it is
stated that after the death of this Susan Smith the
property was given away from the family as a
punishment to her brother Richard for marrying a
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wife with a small fortune. Is anything known of
the descendants of this Richard ? In July, 1759,
there was baptized at St. George's-in-the-East, a
Richard Knightley Smith (afterwards at the Blue-
coat School, 1770-1774), son of Joseph and Eliza-
beth Smith. Joseph, who is described as citizen
and carpenter and deputy coal-meter, died in 1761.
This looks like a descendant. Perhaps some
reader of ' N. & Q.' could supply the connecting
link,
BLUE COAT.
"DYMOCKED."-— A friend in Lincolnshire writes
that the gardener says, " It is a pety the tates are
so dy mocked." Will some kind Lincolnshire
orthographer dissect this provincialism and impale
the bits in the pages of * N. & Q.' TENEBR^E.
SIR W. RALEGH'S LIBRARY. — Is it known where
any of the volumes are preserved that
were
formerly in the possession of Sir Walter Ralegh ?
After his execution, in 1618, many (all ?) of them
were taken possession of by James I., and pro-
bably remained in the royal library until its
dispersion on the death of Charles I.
T. N. BRUSHFIELD, M.D.
Salterton, Devon.
NONCONFORMIST MINISTERS. — Are there in
existence any lists of the 3,500 Nonconformist
ministers who accepted and were licensed by the
Act of Indulgence, 1672 ; and where may they be
seen ? I should like to see the Hampshire list.
G. BROWN EN.
Boscombe, Hanta.
THE HAGUE AND OSNABURG IN THE EIGHTEENTH
CENTURY. —Where can I find accounts of the
society at the Hague and also at Osnaburg in the
middle of the eighteenth century ?
CONSTANCE RUSSELL.
Swallowfield, Reading.
' HISTORY op ESSEX.'— Is Salmon's * History
of Essex ' still in print ; and, if so, will you be good
enough to say from what publisher it is obtainable ?
R. J. SMITH.
[This unfinished work of Nathaniel Salmon, of which
nineteen numberg were issued, can only, we believe, be
obtained second-hand, A copy, bound by C. Lewis, gold
at Sotheby's, in April, 1889, for 41. 6s.]
STOWE MSS.— I should be glad to know where
the Irish MSS. offered by auction at the sale of
the library of Stowe House in 1849 now are.
MONENSIS.
' MIDDLEMARCH.'— Has it been noted that this
made-up name for a manufacturing town in the
Hands, which George Eliot took as a title for
famous novel, was probably suggested by
Middle Mercia, the latter word having, no doubt,
once been pronounced Marcia ?
S. Woodford, A>
"RARELY."
(8th S. x. 333, 366, 421, 518.)
In the last page referred to, " It is rarely that
one of them emerges " is condemned on the ground
that, if "It" is struck off, and the first two words
of the decapitated sentence are put at its end, the
result is the inadmissible "That one of them
emerges is rarely." But a formula of speech is not
to be thought the worse of because, after the loss
of its head, dismemberment, and the rest, it does
not come up smiling. Even where nothing is
omitted from a sentence, its refusing to bear
transposition of its clauses is no certain proof of
its being amiss, that is to say, unidiomatic ; for
idiom is here our concern. Thus, "Many is
the man that wisely thinks so " and ' * His is
an assertion that I do not depend on," are
phrases liable to no censure, in spite of "The
man that thinks so is many " and ' * His is an
assertion on that I do not depend.'' To philo-
logists of every calibre, it, in various connexions,
has been a source of miscarriage. For instance,
in the opinion of Dr. Johnson, " It is I ; be not
afraid," though established for many centuries,
has "an appearance of barbarism." If, for the
ghost of a reason which has been evoked, " It is
rarely that one of them emerges " is to be cashiered,
" It is reluctantly that a scholar measures swords,
metaphorically, with a sciolist" is an expression
belonging to a numerous category which must be
cashiered likewise.
One of the impugners of the locution in ques-
tion writes : " Of course, if we allow ' it is rarely '
to be correct, then we may at once allow the use
of any other adverb with the substantive verb in
predication." Very different is the judgment
necessitated by any but a most superficial exam-
ination of usage.
Adverbs in great abundance, though far short
of universally, may, indeed, hold the position of
" rarely " in a sentence framed on the model of
"It is rarely that one of them emerges."
Among such adverbs are most of the temporal
and spatial classes, simple and complex, as now,
then, again, sometimes, once, always, for ever,
often, seldom, rarely, lately, betimes, yesterday,
to-day, to-morrow, between whiles, last week, next
year, without cessation, here, there, everywhere,
anywhere, nowhere, above, below, backwards, for-
wards, behind, in front, and so on ; exceptions
being while, when, whenever, whensoever, where,
wherever, also ago and back, unless qualified,
and probably some others. As is still the case, in
slipshod style, with now and then, seldom and
often were, of old, both adverbs and quasi-ad-
jectives, but are, at present, only adverbs.
We are by no means to stop here, however.
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NOTES AND QUERIES. [8*s,xi, FEB. 6/97.
" It is impatiently that I expect my friend," " It
was orally that he communicated with me, not by
letter," " It will be conditionally, not absolutely,
that I consent to your proposal," " It would be
unwillingly that we should meet," "It should
be earnestly that you protest, not lukewarmly."
Who will arraign these sentences as false English ?
A host more to match them any one can devise
for himself.
"It was not pretendedly, but truly, that he
admired them " is unobjectionable ; but otherwise
is "It is truly that I was there." In the first
sentence, " truly " goes, in mental construction,
with "admired"; in the second, the word required
to go with " was " is "true."
Yet the second of these sentences would once
have passed muster, inasmuch as, in former ages,
the rights of the adverb were not so restricted as
they are in our time. Witness the following
quotations, selected from a mass at hand which
would occupy several pages : —
"Sodenly from the lieuen descended great violence
and plenty of rayne-water that it was more than suffi-
ciently to all the army, a^wel to men as beestes." — Alex-
ander Barclay, tr. Sallust's ' Jugurtha,' Pyneon's first ed.
(c. 1520), fol. 58 r.
" The duke of Bretayne, who was pesably I his owne
countre," &c.— Lord Berners, tr, Froissart (1523), vol. i.
p. 458 (ed. 1812).
"The things which I found difficult and impossible
shall be easelie for me to accomplished' — William
Painter, ' Palace of Pleasure ' (1556-7), vol. i. p. 402
(ed. 1813).
" All these things are easly to tel, but very hard to
suffer." — Sir Thomas North, tr. Guevara's ' Diall of
Princes ' (1557), fol. 400 (ed. 1582).
"Touching their affections of feare and sadnesse,
sufficiently hath bene saide before."-— Timothy Bright,
' A Treatise of Melancholic ' (1586), p. 128.
" His ccelestiall spirit was more willingly to beleeve
concerning himselfe," &c. — Sir Robert le Grys. tr.
< Paterculus ' (1632), p. 235.
"All other arts are but ministerially to him."— Sir
Kenelm Digby, ' Two Treatises ' (1644), vol i. A 4 v.
(ed. 1645).
" No man can give a rational account why so great
value should be set upon a Diamond, but because it
looks prettily and is lasting." — Bp. Jeremy Taylor.
« Ductor Dubitantium ' (1660), p. 226.
" Things that look the most horridly and reproach-
fully."—Rev. Dr. Henry More, 'Divine Dialogues' (1668),
vol. ii. p. 455.
But, in later days, good writers have not ex-
pressed themselves as below, unless off their
guard : —
" The Highland girl made tea, and looked and talked
not inelegantly."— Dr. Johnson, ' Letter to Mrs. Thrale.'
Sept. 21, 1773.
' The eyes of people who read and write a great deal
not only come to feel painfully, but vision is at length
impaired."— Dr. Thomas Beddoes, 'Hygeia ' (1802), v. 59.
'The leather from the stiff old jerkin will look queerly
in its patches on the frayed satin."— W. S. Landor (1824)
• Works '(1846), vol. i. p. 155.
For good reasons, possibly, Dr. Johnson, as just
quoted, was not writing quite at ease. It may be
that his aim was to be acceptably meiotic, and
that his breach of idiom arose from a flurried effort
to realize that aim. Provided his nose was more
serviceable than his eyes, he would not have said,
in an unperturbed mood of mind, of a rose, " It
smells sweetly." F. H.
Marlesford.
At 3rd S. viii. 6, under the heading ' Adverbs
as Predicates,' a correspondent draws attention
to the predicative use of " very rarely" in
a sentence which he quotes from the Saturday
Review of 10 June, 1865. It is unnecessary to
repeat the opinions of the correspondent in ques-
tion, but as a matter of fact there can be no doubt
that in recent times the employment of certain
adverbs in an adjectival sense has become a
common practice, and thus affords a living illus-
tration of the growth of language. This is espe-
cially the case with adverbs of time, and, notwith-
standing the logical solecism which is involved in
the predicative use of an adverb, it may be doubted
if it would have seemed peculiar to the most rigid
grammarian if, instead of the sentence running
" It is very rarely that one of them emerges," it
had been written " It is not often that one of them
emerges." The first adverb to be employed ad-
jectivally was probably "well," when "I am
well" was used elliptically for " I am feeling well,"
and as usage has now consecrated these and other
equally ungrammatical expressions, it seems hope-
less to expect a return to more circuitous forms.
W. F. PRIDEAUX.
Kingsland, Shrewsbury.
MR. BAYNE lays down a rule of grammar and
by it proves his contention. MR. BIRKBECK TERRY
lays down the same rule, but admits some excep-
tions, the case in point, however, not being one of
them. Why not? I ask, if the form of language
objected to is in general use, as is certainly the
case. If we do not wish to be considered pedantic
we must fall into line, and if rarely has by some
mysterious process of evolution come to be gene-
rally used, like often and seldom, in defiance of
grammar, then, whatever regrets we may feel, it
is waste of energy to beat the grammatical drum,
for grammar will never prevail against custom.
HOLCOMBE INGLEBY.
CLEMENTINA JOHANNES SOBIESKT DOUGLASS
(8th S. xi. 66). — I published some remarks on this
sphinx last year. If we knew her age at her death
in 1771 something might be guessed. I do not
think tbat Prince Charles called himself " Douglas "
before 1744, at earliest, so a natural daughter of his
would scarcely bear the name in 1745. If she was
a young woman then, he was only twenty-five, and
could not be her father. But James III. would
never give his wife's names to a natural daughter
of his own. Again, Charles solemnly denied that
8"i S. XI. FEB. 6, '97. J
NOTES AND QUERIES.
Ill
he ever had any child at all, save the Duchess of
Albany. The Duke of York is out of the question
as a father. Probably the lady was either a
harmless enthusiast, or a member, perhaps illegiti-
mate, of a Jacobite family. Among such houses
Clementina was a popular Christian name for
girls. The owners of the medal bear, I believe, a
very well-known Jacobite surname, and probably
got the medal in the usual way.
ANDREW LANG.
SIR HORACE ST. PAUL (8th S. x. 356, 466, 500 ;
xi. 53). — The following remarks are an answer, in
part, to the inquiries made by SELFPUC at the last
reference.
1. The Northumberland estate of the St. Paul
family was purchased by Robert St. Paul in the
first half of last century ; he then acquired the
adjoining estates of Ewart, Coupland, and Yeaver-
ing, in Glendale, in that county.
2. These St. Pauls were not the Scotch Pauls,
but came from Worcestershire and Warwickshire.
3. The first Sir Horace (1775 to 1840) was a
personal friend of George IV. He was a colonel
in the army, and took part in the Walcheren
expedition. He was elected M.P. for Bridport
in 1812, 1818, and 1820. He was made a baronet
on 17 Nov., 1813. He inherited the title of Count
of the Holy Eoman Empire from his father Horace,
who fought in the Seven Years' War in the
Austrian army, was colonel of horse, and was
made count for his military services by the Em-
peror Francis I. on 20 July, 1759. Sir Horace,
the first baronet, his two brothers, and his sister
were granted the privilege by George IV. of using
their hereditary title of the Roman Empire in this
country, and also their successors after them. The
first Sir Horace was esteemed most effective and
amuaing as a teller of stories, and very good com-
pany generally. He was not born at Wooler, but
in Paris, where his father was at the time secretary
of the Embassy, and Marie Antoinette was his god-
mother.
4. His granddaughter, Mrs. George Grey Butler,
only child of the second baronet, now owns Ewart
Park. CHEVIOT.
According to Debrett, Horace St. Paul, born
1729, created Count of the Holy Roman Empire
by patent dated Vienna, 1759, received R. L,
to use title in this country, 1812. The present
proprietor of Ewart Park, in right of his wife, is
George Grey Butler (son of the late Canon Butler
of Winchester and of the well-known Mrs.
Josephine Butler), married 1893, Maria, daughter
of Sir Horace St. Paul, second and last baronet.
GEORGE ANGUS.
St. Andrews, N.B.
LAUNCESTON AS A SURNAME (8tl1 S. vi. 348 ;
ix. 78). — Launceston as a title seems to be coming
into favour with novelists and dramatists, for there
can now be added to the instances already given
at the above references the Duchess of Launceston
and her son the Duke of Launceston as characters
in Messrs. Woodgate and Berton's adaptation of
Miss Marie Corelli's romance, l The Sorrows of
Satan/ produced at the Shaftesbury Theatre on
9 January. But the original query as to whether
the surname of Phil Launceston, described in the
Athenceum of 6 October, 1894, as " an Australian
poet and a friend of Adam Lindsay Gordon's,"
was genuine or assumed, remains unanswered, and
I should still be glad of a reply. DUNHEVED.
ASTROLOGICAL SIGNATURES (8th S. x. 49 ; xi.
11). — Thanks. I refer not to a mere copy, but to
a facsimile of the autograph letter ; see it in the
book noted. P. S. P. CONNER.
"Goo SAVE THE KING " (8th S. x. 295, 417).—
The use of this phrase to express the " Vivat rex,"
occurs in Coverdale's version of the Bible in 1535.
In 1 Kings (1 Sam. A. V.) x. 24, it is : " God
save the new king." In the Geneva Bible and the
Bishops' Bible this becomes " God save the King,"
with the marginal note, " Heb. , Let the King live."
But in 2 Kings (2 Sam. A.V.) xvi, 16, it is, " God
save the King, God save the King." Coverdale's
use at 2 Kings (2 Sam.) xvi. 16, is, so far as these
four versions are involved, the earliest use of the
exact phrase ; in the former instance from the
same book it is "the new king."
ED. MARSHALL.
Referring to MR. STILWELL'S reply, I am under
the impression that the guard " presents arms"
also to " Queen Victoria's keys"; or perhaps I
should say, after having invoked a blessing on
her most gracious Majesty.
CELER ET AUDAX.
BLESSING THE FISHERIES (8th S. x. 74, 143,
226). — The curious manner in which Heligolanders
themselves bless their fishing will be found in
Oetker's ' Helgoland : Schilderungen und Erorter-
ungen,' Berlin, 1855. A buoy with a small anchor
marks the beginning of the fishery ; to the anchor
is attached the beginning of the fishing line ; as
the buoy is thrown out by the Vorman, who is the
youngest in the boat, he calls out, " Alleft !" an
old untranslatable word, says Oetker, meaning to
the fishers "urn, oder met Erlaubniss, von Gott
den Segen zu erbitten," —
"Sobald der Schiffer oder erste Mann, der hinten am
Ruder 1st, dea Vormanns Ruf hort, antwortet er : ' Liat
skiitt un Gottea Namen ! d. b. lass scliiessen in Gottes
Namen ! Zugleich Uberreicbt er den kleinen Anker,
voran die Tonne mit dem Taue befestigt ist, dem
zweiten Mann, welchem das Auswerfen der Angelleine
obliegt, und ruft dabei : Anker ! Der zweite Mann
antwortet ' Anker met Gott ! Ei komm wer met inoi
Wer, en gudd Pang en gudd Skott, kloar Gesecht, en
gudd Verstand, en gudd Verstand, en behiillen Gudd, en
frei van Fasting, en frei van Mensken ! ' Das heisst :
Anker mit Gott ! Ei komm wieder met schonen Wetter
112
NOTES AND QUERIES.
S. XI. FEE, 6, '97.
und gutem Pang und gutem Stromzuge, mit klarem
Gesicht, und guten Verstande und behaltenem Gut, frei
von Festhaltung und frei von Mensclien ! Wenn der
zweile Mann den Anker fallen Hisst, ruft er, Diar gungt
er hen — da geht er bin ! und der erste Mann liiftet den
Hut oden Siidwester und betet : Herr, auf dein Wort !
Segn' Us Annernemmen ! "—Pp. 202 et seq.
This is only the beginning of the prescribed
words hallowed by the associations of generations ;
but to quote all would take too much space in
'N. & Q.' Lindemann, in his 'Die Nordseeinsel,
Helgoland,' 1889, gives his account in the same
words. When all the lines are taken in, the
skipper lifts his sou'wester, and says, "God be
thanked for the take to-day ; to-morrow more "; or,
in Frisian, "Gott sei Dank for dinnen dolleng !
maren mjiar." WILLIAM GEORGE BLACK.
12, Sardinia Terrace, Glasgow.
"PICKSOME" (8th S. x. 516).— The diction-
naries of Halliwell-Phillipps and Wright give this
word as used in Sussex, but with the meaning
" hungry, peckish." Cooper's ' Sussex Glossary,'
1853, however, has, " Pickish or Picksome^ dainty.
S." F. C. BIRKBECK TERRY.
" Picksome, hungry, Sussex " (Wright's ' Pro-
vincial Dictionary '). ED, MARSHALL.
This word, meaning " dainty," is given in the
'Dictionary of Sussex Dialect.' Perhaps the
woman came from that county, for the word is
not given in the 'Dictionary of Kentish Dialect.'
ARTHUR HUSSEY.
Wingham, Kent.
I once heard this applied by a Welsh servant to
an inmate of my own nursery, and well recollect
being struck with the graphic word.
P. J. F. GANTILLON.
OLD ARMINGHALL (8th S. x. 473, 523). — I see
that MR. WALTER EYE queries the date on the
door being 1487. I may have read it wrongly.
He remarks that much of the work is old and
removed from an earlier building, and that the
added vine leaf and grape ornament is apparently
Italian work of about 1600. According to Blome-
field, 1600 was about the date of its erection by
Nicholas Herne. If, therefore, this is the house
that Herne built, may he not have added the
Italian work 1 Since visiting Arminghall I found
the following notice in 4 Excursions through Nor-
folk,' vol. i. p. 47, published 1818 :—
"Arming Hall was built by the eldest son of
Nicholas Herne, of Tibenham, in Norfolk, Clerk of
the Crown. This seat was sold by Francis Herne,
Esq., to Dame Elizabeth Pettus, who was the owner
in Blomefield's time. Old Arming Hall, now a modern
farmhouse, has a very curious doorway remaining
which is worked in with the wall."
Opposite is a view of the doorway of " Arminghall
Old Hall, the property of the Earl of Rosebery,"
exactly as it atill exists. From these notices I
concluded that Arming Hall and Old Arming
Hall were two distinct houses, but from ME.
HOOPER'S letter I infer that they were one and the
same. A. M. EYTON.
In my copy of ' Excursions through Norfolk,'
the former owner has left a note concerning the
ancient porch, which somewhat differs in the Latin
inscription from that given by Miss EYTON on
p. 473. That part of the note which differs is the
following : —
" There is a Latin inscription on the door (unnoticed
by Blomefield and Cotman) which would satisfy all
enquiry, but there is much difficulty in deciphering it, as
the words are abbreviated, and the letters not raised but
sunk in the wood, having been formerly, I believe, inlaid
with brass. From this inscription, however, have
found a theory of my own, but as it is in issue with many
of far greater pretentious, I shall offer it only as a sug-
gestion. I would read the words thus : ' Orate pro
anima Magistri Gulielmi Qui fecit fundari hoc monas-
terium Anno Christi 1487.' The numerals of the date
are peculiar, but are to be found in Dr. Wallis's
' Algebra.' The 4 is represented by a part of the figure
8, like the Greek abbreviation or (?) inverted, and
the 7 resembles an inverted V (?)."
I cannot make out the words or numbers to
which I have put (?). Mr. Law, the owner, and
first owner I should say, of my copy, made the
note for his own satisfaction, for the writing is not
very distinct. H. A. W.
If MR. JAMES HOOPER will communicate with
Mr. Thackeray Turner, the secretary of the Society
for the Protection of Ancient Buildings, 9,Bucking-
ham Street, W.O., London, giving him the facts
of the case, the society will, I am sure, give him
any assistance in its power, and will, if necessary,
depute its local correspondent or some other
competent person to examine and report upon the
building, and advise what should be done. The
society does not make any charge for its advice,
but, as its means are limited, it expects to be
repaid travelling expenses, which in the present
instance would probably be insignificant. I may,
perhaps, be allowed to observe that the society has
been at considerable pains and expense in com-
bating the proposed rebuilding of the west front
of Peterborough Cathedral, and that the smallest
donations to its funds would be peculiarly accept-
able at the present time. The Dean and Chapter
are touting for 11,OOOZ. for the purpose of pulling
down the west front of the cathedral, and it would
seem appropriate that some small sum should be
subscribed towards the funds of a society which is
endeavouring, at considerable sacrifice of time and
money, to preserve this absolutely unique specimen
of English art. JNO. HEBB.
Willesden Green, N.W.
BEAUMONT COLLEGE (8th S. xi. 87). — Near Old
Windsor, and associated with Warren Hastings
during two of the most anxious years of his life.
In Rocque's map called '* Bowman Lodge." Origin-
ally built by the Lord Weymouth who died in
8«i S. XI. FSB. 6, '97.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
113
1705, it was afterwards the Duchess of Kent's.
The Duke of Koxburghe bought it for his son Lord
Beaumont — hence its name (Tighe and Davis's
' Annals of Windsor,' ii. 589). It was for a time in
the possession of Mr. H. Griffiths, who purchased it
in 1785 for Warren Hastings, and subsequently in
that of Lord Ashbrook. In later years it has been
occupied as a Catholic college, and has been recently
reconstructed and enlarged. K. B.
Upton.
Beaumont College (on the property called Beau-
mont Lodge) is near Old Windsor, Berks, and
was founded by the Fathers of the Society of Jesus
about 1860. Beaumont Lodge was purchased by
the Jesuits first as a seminary or novitiate for
their order, afterwards they changed it into a
college for the education of the sons of gentlemen.
BEAUMONTANUS.
159, Rue de la Pompe, Paris.
• Other replies are acknowledged.]
"FEER AND FLET" (8th S. x. 76, 166, 339,
422 ; xi. 17). — Solution of this question seems to
be on the way, but still I am by no means clear as
to the actual meaning of the passage to which I
have previously referred and which I now quote in
full :—
"At a Court Baron held on 18 April, 1429, it was
presented that 'Avice, who was wife of Win. Opwyk, in
pure widowhood, surrendered one cottage with curtilage
in Burystret in Fulham parcel of Kerapes to the use of
Robert Eyre, otherwise called Robert Jamys, on con-
dition that the said Avice should have for her life her
dwelling place at the east end of the house called fere-
hous, with feer and flet in the same and part of the herbs
growing iu the curtilage with free ingress and egress
towards the same when she pleases.'"
COL. PRIDEAUX'S timely reference makes it, I
think, quite certain that " feer and flet " means the
right of fire and water. MR. C. E. G. DICKINSON
writes me, almost coincidentally with the appear-
ance of the Colonel's note : —
;t From analogy I am able to say that ' feer and flete '
undoubtedly indicates the use of fire and water for the
purposes of cooking, warmth, and cleanliness, allowed to
a woman as appendant to what was called her ' widow's
chamber,' being the use of one furnished room in her
deceased husband's house during so long as she shall
remain in pure widowhood, with free passing and re-
passing to the fire and water."
So far so good. But what is the full sense of
the passage I quote ? Much hinges on the mean-
ing of 'ferehous." I originally suggested in
N". & Q.' that " ferehous "=ferryhouse. PROF.
SKBAT, writing me privately, observes, "I dare say
ferehous may mean ' ferryhouse.' The proper
spelling was ferihous or feryhouse."
MR. DICKINSON inclines to the view that " fere-
hous " has nothing to do with the ferry, but means
fire house. " Can any reader adduce evidence of
use of the word in such a sense ? And, if so,
what would a firehouse mean ?
I may mention that there certainly existed in
Bear Street, near the river, a small ferry-house,
used by the ferry and boatmen.
Another thought occurs to me. There was a
small house for four poor widows, the origin of the
charity known as Sir William Powell's Almshouses.
Could " ferehous " = almshouse ? I do not under-
stand from the grant that widow Opwyk stipulated
for a room " with feer and flet " in the house which
she conditionally sold, but " at the east end of the
ferehous." CHAS. JAS. FERET.
49, Edith Road, West Kensington, W.
GOG AND MAGOG (8th S. xi. 46).— Gog-magog,
both names in one, is a giant in the early fabulous
history of England. See Holinshed's * History.'
Gog and Magog were the sole survivors of a race
of giants, and were brought to London in an ancient
time to officiate as porters at the gate of the king's
palace. According to an Eastern legend, Gog and
Magog are two great races banished to the interior
of the Caucasus, and kept there by supernatural
means, In time to come they will issue from their
prison and destroy the world. This may be the
parent of similar legends concerning Boabdil,
Ogier, Arthur, and other worthies, kept under-
ground, and destined to come forth at a future
time. E. YARDLEY.
MANX DIALECT (8* S. x. 475).— The latest
publication issued by the Manx Society was the
Book of Common Prayer, translated into Manx by
Bishop Phillips in 1610, and the translation by
the Manx clergy in 1765, printed iu parallel
columns, with an appendix of nearly 200 pages, at
the end of the second volume, by Dr. John Rhys,
on 'The Outlines of the Phonology of Manx
Gaelic.1 In the preface Dr. Ehys says :—
" Let me, in conclusion, congratulate the Manx Society
on having now made the earliest and longest MS. in the
Manx language accessible to all. By so doing they have
laid Celtic scholars under a lasting obligation, and have
set an example worthy of being followed by many a mora
numerous society in Great Brition and Ireland."
It is certain that he himself has "laid Celtics
scholars under a lasting obligation " by writing the
clear and exhaustive essay to which I have referred.
There can be no doubt that this is at once the
latest and the best introduction to the " critical
and historical study " of Manx.
ERNEST B. SAVAGE.
St. Thomas, Douglas, Isle of Man.
WYVILL (8th S. x. 336 ; xi. 37).— Zerubbabel
Wy vill, who composed and published several pieces
of music, lived at Inwood House, Hounslow. I
saw him there in my boyhood, and dimly remember
him as an old man, short and thick, with a voice
traditionally reported to have been good, but then
decidedly the worse for wear.
He was twice married. His second wife (who
survived him) was Elizabeth, eldest daughter of
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Thomas Mountford, of Hill End, in the parish of
More, Salop.
In 1828 Wyvill was involved in Chancery pro-
ceedings concerning the estate of his father-in-law,
by whose will he had been appointed executor.
The suit arose out of a family dispute, wherein
harmony and the '* concord of sweet sounds " gave
place, for a time, to "harsh discords and un-
pleasing sharps." WM. UNDERBILL.
72, Upper Westbourne Villas, Hove.
OLD THEATRE AT TOTTENHAM COURT ROAD (8th
S. x. 495 ; xi. 32).— The words of Johnson quoted
at the second reference show an error of punctuation
which, though corrected by me on the proof, has
still been allowed to stand, " Whitefield never
drew as much attention. As a mountebank does,
he did not draw attention by doing better than
others but by doing what was strange." It should
be, '* Whitefield never drew as much attention as
a mountebank does." So in my one-volume
edition, verified in Hill's and Napier's editions.
When I copied the words they struck me as odd,
and alien from Johnson's intention, which was
not to record Whitefield's comparative failure, but
to note the cause of his scarcely merited success.
We desiderate something of this sort : " Whitefield
would never have drawn so much attention but for
posing as a mountebank." Perhaps the odd turn
of the sentence may have struck the person (quern-
cunque) who altered the punctuation. But we
must take Boswell as we find him, and any way
this alteration is impossible ; it would require a
previous mention of some " performer " who had
drawn greater attention ; but the words quoted are
the beginning of what Johnson said.
C. B. MOUNT.
[The proof was received after publication of the
communication.
EARLS OF HALIFAX (8a S. xi. 65).— MR. W. T.
LYNN writes : " In the eleventh volume (recently
published) of the English Historical Review there
is an interesting article, by Mr. Foxcroft, on * The
Works of George Savile, first Marquis of Halifax.'"
As the article in question is said to be by " Miss
Foxcroft " on the cover of No. 44 of the English
Historical Review, October, 1896, it is well to
let this lady have her proper title.
J. B. MEDLEY.
Tyntesfieia, Bristol.
HORSESHOE MONUMENTS (8th S. vii. 109, 175,
297, 392, 499).— I regret that MR. BUTLER'S query
of two years ago escaped my notice. If he is still
interested in the subject, he will find much in-
formation in Dr. Rau's ' Rock Sculpturings,' pub-
lished by the Ethnological Department of the
United States Government, in which the " horse-
shoe" markings, graves, &c., are fully treated of,
and the theories advanced by D£sor, myself, and
others discussed. The volume is rich in engravings
reproduced from various pamphlets, together with
sketches of the markings found on the American
continent. The last number of the Proceedings
of the Royal Academy of Sweden, Historical and
Antiquarian Branch, also contains some informa^
tion on this subject.
J. H. RIVETT-CARNAC, Colonel,
A.D.C. to H.M.
Schloss Wildeck, Aargau.
"To WORSEN" (8th S. x. 393, 500).— The in-
transitive use of worsen, in the sense of to grow
worse, is common in Yorkshire. Huntley's ' Cots-
wold Glossary ' gives the word as equivalent to to
make worse, and then quotes an intransitive use
of the verb : " He might see his affairs had not
suffered, or worsened there, by his acting hitherto
in them " (' Autobiography of King James II.,'
vol. i. p. 680). The transitive use is found also
in Shropshire, cf. Miss Jackson's * Shrop8hire
Word-Book.' D. M. R., at the second reference,
says that "George Eliot is quoted in Annandale
as using the participle." He is unfair to Annan-
dale, who gives "worsening" as a noun, i.e., a
verbal noun. In the quotation cited it could not
be a participle. F. C. BIRKBECK TERRY.
PENSIONER WILLIAM HISELAND (8th S. xi. 7). —
I am sorry I cannot help my friend GENERAL
ROBINSON to the information he seeks. I may,
however, say that during my editorship of ' The
Local Antiquary,' published in the columns of the
West London Press, Chelsea Hospital and its
worthies were topics of frequent discussion among
my readers, who were mostly residents of the parish
named. On two or three occasions William Hise-
land was the subject of debate. At that time I tried
myself to ascertain the whereabouts of the picture,
but without success. Mr. Alfred Beaver, whose
* Memorials of Chelsea' I assisted to correct for
the press, also failed in the same pursuit. Geo.
Alsop was, I believe, a native of Wandsworth,
quite an unknown artist. CHAS. JAS. FERET.
LAMB'S ' PRINCE DORUS ' (7th S. ii. 387, 475, 518 ;
v. 221 ; viii. 359 ; x. 520).— No. 3 of the opuscula
of the Nottingham S.O.V. is "The Tale of Prince
Dorus : a Pendant to ' The Story of a Little Book,'
related by J. Potter Briscoe With a Portrait
I of Lamb, after Daniel Maclise, R.A Demy
16mo. pp. 8." This is " put into prose after Charles
Lamb's rhymed version." N. 0. V.
THE DUKE OF WELLINGTON (8th S. xi. 48). —
Prof. Wm. Selwyn, in 1865, published at Cam-
bridge a poem * Waterloo, a Lay of Jubilee,' with
notes. In his second edition, p. 86, this note
occurs : " Old Etonians remember a saying of the
Duke's when present at a cricket match in the upper
I shootiog fields, ' The battle of Waterloo was won
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
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here.'" Selwyn was a very distinguished Etonian,
and some one who was present and heard the
remark made may have repeated it to him — if,
indeed, he did not hear it himself. In Rogers's
* Table Talk,' p. 290, we find the Duke saying,
" At Waterloo the young ensigns and lieutenants
who bad never before seen a battle rushed to meet
death as if they had been playing at cricket " (see
Eraser's ' Words on Wellington,' p. 139). I have
a list, still incomplete, of over fifty Etonians who
took part in the Waterloo campaign ; and a noble
list it is. It includes Lord Saltoun (" Now's the
time, boys ! "), Sir Felton Harvey, Hon. George
Cathcart (killed at Inkerman), Hon. Fredk.
Soward (" the young, gallant Howard " of 'Childe
Harold '), the handsome and much lamented James
Lord Hay, Col. Stables, &c. Of the above number
ten were killed and thirteen wounded.
T. W. BROGDEN.
Temple.
This is inserted, in a hesitating manner, in the
1 Century of Anecdote,' " Chandos Classics," No. 57,
p. 208, by J. Timbs :—
" It matters little whether it be a pleasing tradition,
or an historical fact, but it was commonly said that after
the Peace, which crowned the immortal services of the
Duke of Wellington, that great general, on seeing the
playing-fields at Eton, said, tuere had been won the crown-
ing victory of Waterloo."
ED. MARSHALL.
SCOTTISH CLERICAL DRESS (8th S. ix, 245, 358 ;
x. 164, 319). — I am much obliged by MR. NORTH'S
communication on p. 319, but should be obliged if
he would expand his reference — " * The Nona-
genarian,' by McLean." What is this book, and
when was it published ?
WILLIAM GEORGE BLACK.
Glasgow.
Louis PHILIPPE (8th S. x. 495, 524 ; xi. 18).—
should not have thought that any one could
seriously believe the story about King Louis
Philippe being only the son of a gardener changed
at his birth. Having resided for some years in
Paris in the earlier part of his reign, I, of course,
had frequent opportunities of seeing him ; and
although he was certainly wanting in dignity and
'* presence," he never struck me as having the air
of an ill-bred man — quite the contrary. I have,
too, in my possession a photograph of his son, the
late Duke de Nemours, taken more than twenty
years ago, in which the duke's likeness to his great
ancestor Henry IV. is most striking, and is almost;
alone sufficient to disprove the scandalous tale that
Louis Philippe was no Bourbon, but only a.
gardener's son. These stories about kings and
great nobles being only changelings are common
enough, but, somehow or another, they are never
proved. At the period to which 1 refer — between
30 and 1840— Louis Philippe had numberless
detractors, who did not scruple to vilify him im
every way and to accuse him of all sorts of crimes,
from murder downwards to pecuniary meanness ;
but I do not remember to have heard any people of
average intelligence maintain that he was not the
son of Philippe ifigalite. In fact, those who hated
him most used to declare he was quite worthy of
that father, as about the worst thing they could say
of him. Whatever, then, may be the value of my
appreciation as to the personal appearance and
bearing of King Louis Philippe, the remarkable
resemblance of the late Duke de Nemours to Henri
Quatre has to be accounted for, and the most
obvious explanation of it is that figalite fils was
the son of Egalite* pere. As to Louis Philippe
being a coward, as Dr. Macmillan asserts, I do not
think that those who knew him best during the
long years when he was constantly the mark for
the bullet of the assassin will allow that his
cowardice was one of the marks of a base extrac-
tion ; and, at any rate, he begat sons who, what-
ever may have been their failings, were certainly
gallant gentlemen, as they proved on numberless
occasions. E. M. S.
Chichester.
As it has now been proved in * N. & Q.' that
this king of the French was not a changeling, may
we estimate the well-known report that his father
Egalite was really the son of Louis, Comte de
Melfort (said to have been one of the many
lovers of his mother), also as a baseless fabric of a
vision ? It has been recorded in * N. & Q.,' 6td S,
vi. 334, that
" one of the lampoons against f^alite of the time of the
French Revolution had a refrain ending with the words,
II n'est pas le petit-fills de Henri Quatre,
Mais le batard de Melfort."
HENRY GERALD HOPE.
Clapham, S.W.
THE BURIAL-GROUND IN 'BLEAK HOUSE* (8th
S. x. 489). — Though agreeing with your corre-
spondent MR. W. J. GADSDEN that the Russell
Court burial-ground is not the graveyard of 'Bleak
House,' I consider that Dickens referred not to the
burial-place in Ray Street, Clerkenwell, but to one
in the actual district where so many of the other
events described occurred : I allude to the grave-
yard in Bream's Buildings, between Fetter Lane
and Chancery Lane. The reasons in support of
this view appear to me convincing, and were stated
at length in a letter of mine in the Daily Graphic
of 20 Aug., 1894 ; but the following is a summary
of them : —
1. Locality.— The last days of the wretched law
writer's life were spent in the neighbourhood
bounded by Fleet Street, Lincoln's Inn, Holborn,
and Fetter Lane ; he died at the " rag and bottle
shop," "in the shadow of the wall of Lincoln's
Inn"; the inquest was held at the " Sol's Arms,"
generally identified with a tavern in the court at
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the end of Chichester Rents, not a hundred yards
from Bream's Buildings ; and it is far more pro-
bable that Nemo's remains would be buried in
the Bream's Buildings graveyard than that they
would be taken to a district so comparatively
remote as Ray Street, or even to Russell Court,
right away beyond the far side of Lincoln's Inn
Fields. Snagsby, Nemo's chief employer, lived
in " Cook's Court, Cursitor Street." Took's Court
is but a few yards from Bream's Buildings, and a
narrow passage, called Greystoke Place, communi-
cating between Cursitor Street and Fetter Lane,
by "devious ways" leads to the entrance of the
burial-place.
2. General features. —The level of the ground
is raised, and it is reached by steps, as at Russell
Court. The approach is by an " iron gate," at the
end of a narrow court which once may have been
a "tunnel"; and opposite to the entrance of the
court is a gas-lamp projecting from a wall. Even
now the graveyard is "hemmed in" by houses,
which overlook it on all sides. It should be
added that most of these are modern : a school
building, publishers' offices, &c. Some railings
intervene on one hand, and the ground has been
turfed over, in part. But in spite of the changes
effected of late years, the appearance, surroundings,
and approaches still strikingly recall the place
described by the novelist. Hablot K. Browne's
illustration, 'Jo and Lady Dedlock,' shows an
iron-barred gate, without woodwork.
3. Charles Dickens's close acquaintance with the
locality. — From his previous residence in Furnival's
Inn, just across Holborn, Dickens must have been
familiar with this graveyard and every yard of the
immediate vicinity. My memory may be at fault,
but I do not recollect that in any of his works (not
excepting * Oliver Twist') he showed such an
intimate knowledge of either Clerkenwell or Drury
Lane as that displayed in ' Bleak House ' of the
Chancery Lane and Fetter Lane district. Cer-
tainly in none of his works did he manage to
introduce more local colouring.
For reasons which cannot be given here, I am
inclined to think that Dickens did not mean to
describe with minute accuracy this graveyard (and
many other places mentioned in his works) ; but
on the whole I believe that probability is strongly
on the side of the Bream's Buildings site, rather
than of Russell Court, or Ray Street, Clerkenwell.
E. G. CLAYTON.
Richmond, Surrey.
May I refer your correspondent to 8th S. v. 227,
289, 417 ; vi. 213 ? Also to the following para-
graph, taken from an article which appeared in the
Pall Mall Magazine for July, 1896, entitled
'Notes on some Dickens Places and People,' by
the late Charles Dickens, jun. : —
"Two or three very striking illustrations occur in
' Bleak House,' which contained, until the extensive clear-
inces and demolitions which were necessitated by the
>uilding of the Royal Courts of Justice, perhaps more
recognizable neighbourhoods and houses, not being
public places and simply described as such, than can be
"ound in any of the books. But even these, except in
one notable case, can only be identified (or could, for
many of them have already disappeared) by reference to
;he context as well as to the actual description of them.
There is absolutely only one such place, that I ever saw,
which would satisfy the sticklers for absolute accuracy.
This is the horrible little burying-ground in which Capt.
Hawdon was laid, and on the steps of which Lady Ded-
lock died, ' a hemmed-in churchyard, pestiferous and
obscene with houses looking in on every side, save
where a reeking little tunnel of a court gives access to
the iron gates.' So runs the description in the book,
and so you will find the place to this day, on the left-
band side as you go down Russell Court — taking care of
your pockets the while — from Catherine Street to Drury
Lane, the only difference being that the burying-ground
bias been decently covered over with asphalte and is now
used as a playground for the slum children of those
parts."
I understand that this playground is about to be
absorbed in the construction of a new thoroughfare.
JOHN T. PAGE.
5, Capel Terrace, Southend-on-Sea.
THE PRONOUN " SHE " (8th S. xi. 48).— This is
indeed a difficult word, and it is merely as a stop-
gap that lexicographers have accepted the hypo-
thesis that the pronoun heo was confused with the
article seo in Old English, so that the modern
pronoun is derived from the ancient article. The
objection to this is that modern see, and not she,
would have resulted according to phonetic law ;
and slight as this difference between s and sh may
appear to the uninitiated, every reader of Prof.
Skeat's magnificent 'Principles of English Ety-
mology ' will recognize that it is fatal to the idea.
My own explanation of the modern pronoun is
more probable, and appears to have no weak points,
but I must confess the evidence for it is slight.
For the existence of the sound I have called the
" quasi-guttural " in Anglo-Saxon, initially, we
have only the comparison with the cognate Ice-
landic. Of its existence medially there is, how-
ever, direct proof in those spellings of Doomsday
Book to which Prof. Skeat (without explaining
them) has drawn attention in another of his works.
Bristelmestune for modern Brighton shows that
the Norman scribe heard Anglo-Saxon briht pro-
nounced as modern German bricht. No other
pronunciation could possibly have sounded like
brist or brisht to a stranger, whereas the palatalized
guttural, as I have elsewhere shown, is always
liable to be replaced by 8 or sh.
JAS. PLATT, Jun.
GOSFORTH (8th S. x, 172, 224, 264, 300, 405,
441 ; xi. 75). — I am unable to understand the
meaning of the communication at the last refer-
ence. The statement that Gesemuthe must needs
mean geese-mud is mere banter, having no bearing
at all on the argument. The hard g in geese could
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
117
never have produced the j in Jesmond, and the
word muthe, as it confessedly means "mouth,"
has nothing at all to do with " mud."
Even a spurious modern ballad is right in con-
necting Back-ton with Buck (which may, in the
A.-S. form Bucca, have been a man's name), and
Swin-hoe with Swine. It is not as if Swinhoe
stood alone ; we have many names relating to
swine, such as Swin-brook, Swin-coe, Swin-dale,
Swin-don, Swine-fleet, Swines-head, Swin-fen,
and Swin-ford. Again, as to goose, we have Gos-
field as well as Gos-ford and Gos-forth, (probably)
Gos-port, and certainly Goos-ey (Berks). Turn-
ing to Kemble's * A.-S. Charters,' we find that
there were also once a Goose-brook, a Gos-den, a
Gos-ley, and a Goose-well. The shortening of the
o before two consonants has been repeatedly
explained, and occurs, obviously enough, in the
common word gos-ling.
The Northern suffix -forth corresponds to the
Southern -ford. Hence, when we find Gos-forth
in the North, we find Gos-ford in the South. It
occurs in a charter of Eadweard concerning lands
in Somersetshire, printed in Birch, ii. 270, where
we find, " up on strem to Oos-forda," i.e., up along
the stream to Gos-ford. The dative in -a is inter
esting ; those who are acquainted, practically, with
Anglo-Saxon are aware that long stems in -u, with
a dative in -a, are not very numerous.
I can only repeat that I see no difficulty what-
ever in the derivation of Gos-forth, Gos-ford, Gos-
field, and gos-ling from A.-S. gos, a goose. Before
making cheap fun of the peculiar mode in which
our ancestors evolved their place-names, it would
be just as well to become sufficiently acquainted
with their history to understand their habits.
They made up plant-names in a similar way, hence
our goose-bill and goose-foot, goose-grass and goose-
tongue, and several others. I see no humour in
the connexion of Gos-forth with Jesmond, because
every one knows that the plural of goose is cer-
tainly not jeese; and in the pronunciation of
Gesemuthe the g was really a?/; though I suppose
the y was later written as I, and then mispro-
nounced as j.
There is nothing recondite about this. If your
correspondent, in his desire not to be a gosling,
would only take the trouble to learn Anglo-Saxon
pronunciation, he would discover that in words
beginning with ge (the e being short and un-
mutated) the g took the sound of y ; and then he
would be more fitted to write about the subject
than he appears to be at present. In the A.-S.
gts, plural of gas, a goose, the g remains hard
because the e is long and mutated ; it was origin-
ally oe, and is spelt goes in some of the Canter-
bury charters. WALTER W. SKEAT.
At the last reference we are told that " if Gos-
forth must be Goose-ford, and Jesmond (Gese-
muthe), by parity of reasoning, Geese-mud, then
the derivations of Hengrave and Ducklington are
equally obvious." The truth will out, even in a
jest ! However, in the sentence just quoted we
bave not the whole truth, but only a part of it,
for Gesmuthe means geese-mouth, and not geese-
mud. " Mouth," as PROF. SKEAT shows in his ' Dic-
tionary,' is A.-S. mw$, Dutch mond, Icel, munnr
for winner, so that Jesmond, like Gesemuthe, is
quite in order, the initial j representing the older
g. Accordingly we may take Gesemuthe or
Jesmond as *gd8a-mu^) geese-mouth, geese-
outlet. The name is analogous to Cowmouth
and Sowmouth. In former times geese, cows,
swine, &c., were driven by gooseherds, cow-
herds, and swineherds by different ways to dif-
ferent portions of the common pastures. Such
ways were sometimes called " outgangs," and it
would seem that an " outgang " was also known
as a mouth, i.e., an outlet.
Evidently the commons about Newcastle have
been stolen from the goose. The word Jesmond
looks so pretty, and such a very proper name for a
fashionable suburb, that it would have beenso much
nicer if one could only have derived it from, say,
the fragrant jasmine. The truth seems heartless,
but, alas ! it does not mean jasmine mount, but
geese mouth, and the story of its origin does not
a little to confirm the opinion given by PROF.
SKEAT that Gosforth, another suburb of New-
castte, means goose-ford. S. 0. ADDY.
LONDON DIRECTORIES (8th S. xi. 9, 77). —
MESSRS. KELLY & Co., although for many years
past the printers and publishers of the annual
'Post Office London Directory,' are hardly the
persons from whom one would seek information on
this subject generally, requiring as it does some
bibliographical, if not antiquarian, knowledge, and
their reply at the latter reference has numerous
errors both of commission and omission. With
these I do not now propose to fully deal, but
should be happy to furnish an exhaustive account
of the various publications coming under the above
head if called for. As having given considerable
attention to the subject of the names of London's
former inhabitants, and more particularly of the
sixteenth and seventeenth centuries, as the annotator
for publication of the ' London Directory ' of 1677,
as the editor of the * List of Principal Inhabitants
of the City of London, 1640,' and the compiler of
still earlier lists of the same, permit me, however,
to at once state that such ' List ' of 1640 was not
originally published in that year, but was first
omraunicated by me to the Misc. Gen. et Her.
in 1886, a few copies being subsequently separately
printed in 4to. for private use, one of which I pre-
sented to our Guildhall Library. There is no
jdition of 1640, and therefore no copy of it in the
ast-named or any other collection, public or pri-
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vate, nor any reprint. It is not a directory, but
was taken from such of the original returns as are
extant in the Public Record Office, London, made
by the aldermen of the several City wards, naming
and classifying according to their ability those
inhabitants, with their professions, trades, and call-
ings, who were conceived able to lend the king
(Charles I.) money upon security towards raising
a loan of 200,000?. according to order of the Privy
Council dated 10 May, 1640, the circumstances
attending the making of which returns, as well as
the forced loan, are dealt with by Dr. R. R.
Sharpe, the Corporation Records Clerk, in his
interesting work ' London and the Kingdom.' I
would add that the earliest London directory,
properly so called, is certainly that of 1677, en-
titled 'A Collection of the Names of the Merchants
living in and about the City of London,' which
contains the names of some 1,876 merchants and
fifty-eight goldsmiths (or bankers), of whom about
fourteen were aldermen and thirty-eight knights.
It is extremely rare, but was reprinted in fac-
simile, with a short and erroneous introduction,
by J. C. Hotten in 1863, and reissued by Chatto
& Windus in 1878. W. I. R. V.
" A NOTT STAG" (8th S. x. 336, 381, 442, 506;
xi. 51). —See * Henry IV.,' " Wilt thou rob this
leathern jerkin, crystal button, noM-pated agate
ring?" &c. (Pt. I., II. iv.). Further on in the
same scene the prince calls Falstaff a " knotty -
pated fool." Round-headed or cropt-headed seems
to be the meaning. R. R.
AUTHORS OF QUOTATIONS WANTED (7th S. ix.
429 ; 8ta S. ix. 169, 239).—
I expect to pas?, &c.
Mr. Moody tells me be is not the author of this fine
saying. He secured it from a member of the Massachu-
setts Legislature who is now dead. This gentleman
used to carry it in his pocket, showing it on every possible
occasion in the House to those with whom he came in
contact. If it is quoted in ' The Greatest Thing in the
World,' Prof. Drummond probably got it from Mr.
Moody, as that popular tract was first delivered at one
of the colleges in the little Massachusetts town of North-
field where Mr. Moody holds forth. The controversy
over the saying in ' N. & Q.' has stirred up, I notice, the
United States press to get at the authorship ; but so far
no one has hit the mark. Mrs. Sangster, the editor of
one of Harper & Brothers' New York weeklies', has just
produced a creditable lyric embodying its sentiments.
There is another motto of a similar kind that Mr. Moody
is very fond of. It is said to be inscribed on a tombstone
in Shrewsbury in England : —
For the Lord Jesus Christ's sake,
Do all the good you can,
To all the people you can,
In all the ways you can,
As long as ever you can. C.
(8" s. xi. 89.)
It is an old belief, &c.
These lines, with slight variations, were written by
John G. Lockhart, and sent by him to Carlyle on 1 April,
1842. They are quoted, with two succeeding stanzas, by
Froude, in ' Carlyle's Life in London,' vol. i. p. 267
(" Silver Library " edition). The whole six verses are
given in Locker - Lampson's ' Lyra Elegantiarum,'
No. ccxix. (" Minerva Library " edition). J. J. C.
And didst thou love the race that loved not thee ?
This is by Miss Jean Ingelow, and will be found in her
' Poems,' vol. i. p. 30. It occurs in a poem entitled
' Honours.' The stanza quoted and four following ones
will also be found as Hymn 127 of the ' Congregational
Church Hymnal,' edited by G. S. Barrett, set to very
appropriate music by Dr. E. J. Hopkins, of the Temple
Church. WM. H. PEET.
If you wish in this world to advance,
Your merits you 're bound to enhance ;
You must stir it and stump it,
And blow your own trumpet,
Or, trust me, you haven't a chance !
W. S. Gilbert, ' Ruddigore.'
W. G B.
NOTES ON BOOKS, &c.
Four Generations of a Literary Family. By W. Carew
Hazlitt. 2 vole. (Redway.)
WITH some prescience, it may be held, of what is likely
to be the reader's estimate of his work, Mr. Carew
Hazlitt, on the last page of this ambitiously named book
of gossip, expresses the hope that the "details" he
supplies will " not too often strike " his " readers either
as trivial or obnoxious." They are both. We were long
exercised, while labouring through the mass of matter,
disconnected and pointless, with which Mr. Hazlitt has
padded one of the most notable instances on record of
book-making, as to what adjectives to select in order to
express our discontent and dislike. A whole vocabulary
of reprehension was at our disposal. We are content to
accept those given us by the compiler himself, and, resist-
ing the temptation to the use of stronger phrase, add only
that they are incorrect and unworthy. Throughout the
volumes the writer shows himself splenetic, querulous,
and indiscreet. Very many of those with whom he
deals, including his father, were our own friend?, and
it is inexpressibly painful to us to listen to the arraign-
ment of these men, or to find the terrible visitations to
which they succumbed — matters which we, who were
proud of their intimacy or friendship, left unmentioned,
or mentioned only with "bated breath" — dragged to
light in a book intended for general circulation. We will
not participate in Mr. Hazlitt's indiscretion by repeating
after him any names whatever of individuals unfortunate
enough to have inspired him with the notion of lugging
them into his book. In the case of two worthy gentle-
men, whose only offence can have been that they were
judges of books, he speaks of the "physical bearing
of one " as being "just as unprepossessing and unaristo-
cratic " as that of the other ; and he then proceeds calmly
to narrate the circumstances of a terrible suicide, of which
we, who were intimately acquainted with the deceased,
had but a dim knowledge, and to which, by a feeling of
grief and respect, none of his intimates, " prepossessing
and aristocratic or unprepossessing and unaristocratic,"
ever referred. Very, very far from being the worst
offence is this. Here is a paragraph at which we stand
astounded : " There was a creepy story about " (Mr.
Hazlitt supplies the name) "and a mysterious affair
which took place at his rectory in Suffolk. A dead child
was discovered behind a chimney-piece." Concerning
some of the greatest of Englishmen Mr. Hazlitt collects
and repeats discreditable particulars which we will not
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be the means further to disseminate. Mr. Hazlitt was
two years at the War Office. Who must have been his
colleagues we know. All be finds to say of them is that
they "were individuals infinitely various in their ideas
and qualifications, and the majority struck me as having
little enough of one or the other. Many were grossly
ignorant ; hardly one possessed a considerable degree of
gentlemanly culture." If he has occasion to mention
any one it is in terms of needless disparagement. Draw-
ing a comparison between Mr. William Parren and Sir
Henry Irving, he speaks of the latter as one "than
whom any one more desperately hopeless at the outset
probably never trod the stage." The statement is, of
course, as inaccurate as it is gratuitous. Farren, how-
ever, "has risen to his present position by unassisted
ability and genius, while Irving seems to have owed hia
triumph to collateral auspices "—whatever these may
be—" and the happy (not new) idea of making his pieces
spectacularly attractive and accurate— accurate so far as
his knowledge permits." Other portions of Mr. Hazlitt's
book consist of cryptic stories concerning courtezans and
others, all old and mostly spoiled in the narration. His
carelessness in matters of fact is astounding. Whenever
he mentions the name of the proprietors of the Daily
Telegraph he calls them Levi, and he introduces us, both
in the index and in the body of the book, to a Richard
Woolner, R.A., a sculptor whom we commend to the
care of Mr. Lee for the ' Dictionary of National Bio-
graphy,' and to the attention of Mr. Graves.
In Mr. Hazlitt's family there was one great literary
man, very cross, and genuinely inspired. It is distinctly
disloyal to his memory to couple his work with that of his
predecessors and successors, some of them equally cross,
none of them approximately inspired. Of the William
Hazlitt with whom the world is concerned little new is
told. A diary of Miss Hazlitt represents the solid worth
of the publication. "Splenetic acrimony" is a term
Mr. Hazlitt applies to the William Hazlitt. It is well
chosen. We will not seek to give it an application
beyond what its author intended or, perhaps, desires.
A Paradise of English Poetry. Arranged by H. C.
Beeching. (Rivington, Percival & Co.)
ANTHOLOGIES, except in the case of a dead language, are
never final. New poets are discovered, a selection from
whose work is indispensable, tastes undergo a revolution;
a score circumstances, in fact, render the collections of
one generation worthless to the next. What use to tbe
K resent generation would have been a selection made by
r. Johnson ? It would have been waste-paper on the
bookstalls, like the collections of Dodsley and Pearch.
Much was thought of the ambitious selection of speci-
mens made by Thomas Campbell, yet where now is
it? The 'Paradise of Dainty Devices,' and other
works dealing wholly with poets of the day, stand on a
different footing. These never lose their interest.
Among recent anthologies Mr. Beeching's is the best,
partly because it is the latest and so most up to date,
it includes none but the works of poets in their fame or
"in their misery dead," and it has been made by a
man of excellent taste and judgment. Its first appear-
ance was in a handsome and a costly form. We now
rejoice to welcome it in a shape which is still very
pretty and attractive, and at a price that puts it within
average reach. Recent reissues of early poets, and
notably Mr. Bullen's edition of the sorgs of Campion,
have enabled Mr. Beeching to extend ins basis ami to
enrich his collection with charming poems not long tgo
unattainable. To any one anxious to possess in clear
type, and in a lovely and convenient shape that may be
slipped into the pocket for a summer jaunt, the sweetest
lyrics of a literature richer in lyrics than any other, this
book may be heartily commended. We will not join
issue with the compiler on any point, but will be content
to accept his catering. He elects to omit sonnets— let
them be omitted ; to include a few dramatic scenes— let
them be included. What could be better] His dramatic
scenes are principally from Shakspeare, Fletcher, Milton.
So be it. He might easily go further and fare worse.
He selects largely— as who would not 1— from the Cavalier
poets. Milton and Keats are, as they deserve to be, very
largely represented. We have Chaucer, Spenser, Surrey,
Wyatt, Donne, Cowley, Wither. Some passages are even
taken from Skelton and Sidney. Raleigh, Lodge, Greene,
Webster, Jonson, Drayton, Herrick, Marvell are wel'l
represented. Daniel is a favourite, and his 'Musophilus '
supplies a motto to the selection. Barntield, Beddoes,
Breton, Carew, D'Avenant, Habington, Lovelace, Lyly^
Montrose, and others of like name and fame are laid under
toll, and one, at least, of the lovely poems accessible only
in the publications of the Early English Text Society is
given. In fact, tbe only two poems that we miss are Mrs.
Behn'g divine "Love in fantastic triumph sate" and
Graham of Gartmore's "If doughty deeds my lady
please," a belated lyric, worthy of Suckling or Montrose.
An enthusiastic welcome is merited by this volume,
which will last us well until new poets, now strangely
loitering, come to claim their places.
Boole-Prices Current. Vol. X. (Stock.)
WE welcome the appearance of the latest number of this
excellent annual, of which the compiler speaks as tho
book-collector's Bible. Each succeeding year witnesses
an increase in size and an improvement in arrangement.
The volume for 1896 has 600 pages, against 534 in its
predecessor. It present?, moreover, for the first time
an index of subjects occupying twenty-eight pages, and
constituting a very desirable addition. Other ga'in is
perceptible. The general index has been augmented
and further displayed, and the entries which have been
commented upon, either bibliographically or by way of
collation, are distinguished by means of an asterisk.
Mr. Slater, the compiler, claims, indeed, that the work
has practically three indexes, or, as he prefers to call
them, " indices." It is pleasant to be able to announce
that a General Index to the ten volumes, for which sub-
scriptions are invited, is in contemplation. This will be
a genuine boon. Its utility will be increased if, in the
case of, say, Froissart, after the word ' Chronicles ' is
put "trs.," lor translation of Johnes or Beruers, with the
date of publication. This is in answer to Mr. Slater's
invitation to supply suggestions. In his introduction
Mr. Slater opines that tbe time has not yet arrived when
it would be expedient to strike an average as to tbe
prices at which important or costly books are sold.
There is an upward tendency, on which possessors of
books rather than purchasers are to be congratulated.
The average price of the lots in 1893 was II. Qs. Id in
1894 it was II. 8s. 5d., in 1895 II. Us. 4d., and Jast year
it was II. 13s. IQd. The advance is not, it is held, wholly
due to a general rise in price, but rather to the fact
that some few books realized large sums. Two imper-
fect copies of Chaucer's ' Canterbury Tales ' brought,
one 1,020^., and the other 1,880^ Books " of a certain
kind," it is said, "are selling rather better than they
have done for some time past." That certain class, we will
ourselves say, is best represented by good early editions
of great English poets— Chaucer, Shakspeare, Milton,
Suckling. The price at which early Chaucers were gold
some years ago was amazingly low. Among the books
that have fallen on evil days are cited the manufactured
"limited editions" of modern essayists and poets. A
similar experience has been obtained by the French pub-
lishers, showing that the causes at work are not purely
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local. Now, even, the difference between the prices asked
for books in London and in Paris is very striking, and
French catalogues of books which are de luxe constitute
to the bibliophile astounding reading. We have only to
reiterate our welcome to a book of increasing value and
interest. One of the most pleasant tributes to its excel-
lence is found in the book itself, wherein is chronicled
the sale of eight volumes of the book for 101. 5$.
Scottish Poetry of ike Eighteenth Century. Vol. II.
(Glasgow, Hodge.)
MR. EYRE TODD'S "Abbotsford Series of the Scottish
Poets " is now complete. It constitutes a well-executed and
thoroughly representative series, in favour of which we
may say that we have read through the consecutive volumes
as they have appeared, familiar as we are with much of
their contents. This latest volume gives selections from
forty poets, among whom are included Beattie, Fergus-
son, and Burns. In addition to these, whose merits have
won general recognition, there are many minor minstrels,
such as Robert Graham, Lady Anne Lindsay, Mrs. Grant
of Laggan, and others, to whom the lover of poetry needs
no introduction. The arrangement is happy, the glossary
by the side of the text is to Southron readers most help-
ful, and the biographical prefaces are in all respects
adequate, The series is entitled to, and has doubtless
obtained, a warm reception.
Earl Rdgnvald and his Forebears. By Catherine Staf-
ford Spence. (Fisher Unwin.)
THESE glimpses of life in early Norse times in Orkney
and Shetland are immediately intended for children.
They are well and picturesquely written, and may be
read by those of older years.
Thomas Carlyle's Alhandlung uber Goethe's Faust aus
dem Jahre 1821. Herausgeben und mit einer
Einleitung verschen von Dr. Richard Schroder.
(Braunschweig, Westermann,)
CARLYLE'S first essay on Goethe appeared in the New
Edinburgh Review for 1821. According to the practice
of reviews, this article appeared anonymously, and Dr.
Schroder complains that the essay has never been re-
printed, and adds that when last year inquiries were
made in the bookselling trade not a single copy could
be obtained. He also regrets that the essay is not
included in any collection of Carlyle's writings, not
even in the ' Critical and Miscellaneous Essays,' and
thinks that he is rendering a service to readers, English
or German, by now reprinting the almost extinct little
essay, which certainly does not belong to Carlyle's
critical work of the first rank. It is easy to understand
that Carlyle, who in later years did work so much finer
in connexion with the greatest German, should not care
to preserve his first opuscule about Goethe and about
'Faust.' He evidently did not consider his somewhat
juvenile and imperfect tentative as being worthy to be
included among his more important efforts. Thanks to
Dr. Schroder, those of our countrymen who may desire to
possess this unfledged piece of criticism can now easily
purchase it at a very cheap rate ; and it is pleasant to
think there is still some demand in Germany for Carlyle's
early effort in this department of literary criticism. " Dr.
Schroder prefaces the work itself with an introduction
which, as well as his general editing, is performed with
German intelligence and German thoroughness. It is
not necessary for us to-day to review Carlyle's neglected
article, the chief attraction of which now is that it is a
literary rarity and curiosity, and that it is by him. It is
honourable to Germany that it should render such grate-
ful honour to the great foreigner who did so much to
make specially Goethe and Frederick the Great known
and understood in England, and even, perhaps, to some
extent, in France. Germany can never forget how Car-
lyle understood the German spirit, and how, in thunder-
tones resembling those of the Erdyeist, he expressed,
with all the force of his individuality, his conviction of
the meaning and the value of Germany's spiritual and
warlike king hero.
The Aurora Borealis. By Alfred Angot, Honorary
Meteorologist to the Central Meteorological Olfice of
France. (Kegan Paul & Co.)
THIS is one of the " International Scientific Series, " and
quite keeps up the standard of value maintained 'by its
predecessors. All matters connected with the Aurora
(which, by the way, in the body of the work is called the
Polar Aurora, a more correct term than the older one
of Aurora Borealis, since the phenomenon as much
belongs to high southern as to high northern latitudes)
are carefully discussed — its forms, its physical character-
istics, its frequency and periodicity, its relations with
terrestrial meteorology and magnetism, and the theories
which have been formed with regard to it. There are
some good illustrations, and appended is a very useful
catalogue of auroras recorded to have been seen in
Europe below fifty-five degrees of latitude from the year
1700 to 1890. The only fault we find with it is the
failure to mention in the preface, where previous works
are spoken of, the elaborate and splendidly illustrated
volume of the late Mr. Rand Capron on the same sub-
ject, which appeared in 1879. When the author says
that since 1839 "no general work on the subject has
appeared in this country," it is to be presumed that he
means France. Still, especially in an international
series, some reference should have been made to that of
Rand Capron.
MR. W. ROBERTS, well known for his literary and
bibliographical works, promises shortly some * Memorials
of Christie's.' The publishers are G. Bell & Sons.
THE latest imitator of ' N. & Q.' is the St. Pancras
Guardian. The first number of ' St. Pancras Notes and
Queries ' to appear in that paper is announced for
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LONDON, SAIURDAY, FEBRUARY 13, 1897.
CONTENTS.— N° 268.
NOTES --Jerrold's Dramatic Works, 121 — Mr. Ranby's
House' at Chiswick, 122-Mary Stuart-Horace, 'Sat I.
v 100 123— Parsley— Troston, 124— First American Phar-
macopoeia—Peacock— Literary Blunder, 125-Puritari Relic
—Squire's Coffee-House, 126.
QUERIES :-" Breet " - " Tryst "- Lancashire Hornpipe-
^ Court Martial -"Shott" -Prints of Milford Haven -
"Peace with honour "—Gallic Cock— Objects in Use in
Nineteenth Century, 127-" Halifax Shilling "-Vicomte
de Courtivron— Gilbert le Franceys— Chaworth— Henrietta
Maria— Medal of Mary II.— Fullerton— Pewter Ware, 128—
SS Cyriacus and Julietta— Princess Mathilde Bonaparte-
Author of Quotation— Sir M. Costa, 129.
REPLIES :— Buckingham House, 129— Round Robin, 130-
Sir Franc van Halen— County Families— Rev. Dr. Tunstall
—"Getting up early "—Claudius du Chesne, 131— " Dia-
mond Wedding"— Wave Names— Materials for Barrows—
Grosvenor, East Indiaman— Cunobelinus— Law Stationer,
132— Divining Rod, 133— Hungate— Letheringham Priory
—Ghost-Names, 134— Blanco White's Sonnet— Church or
Chapel — " Facts are stubborn things "—" Imperium et
libertas"— W. C. Bryant— Author Wanted— Olney, 135—
Galleries in Church Porches— Ancient Cycling— Clarel—
Colby Font— Church Tower Buttresses— Lady Almeria Car-
penter, 136— Birchin Lane— Royal Colleges— Vergilius, 137
—Waterspout and Whirlwind— Increase in Human Bulk—
" Come, let us be merry," 138.
NOTES ON BOOKS :— Liddall's ' Place Names of Fife and
Kinross '— ' Antiquary ' — ' Reliquary ' — ' Journal of the
Ex-Libris Society '—Magazines.
Notices to Correspondents,
DOUGLAS JERROLD'S DRAMATIC WORKS.
The result of some years' research in connexion
with * The Life and Letters of Douglas Jerrold »
and the kindness of several correspondents has
made me acquainted with so many hitherto un-
recorded plays from my grandfather's pen, that I
have thought a useful purpose might be served by
setting the complete list forth in chronological
order. The total number of pieces I have brought
up to sixty-eight. Some have never been published,
and but thirty-four are to be found in the British
Museum, while only forty-six are named in the
'Life and Eemains of Douglas Jerrold,' published
in 1858. Of many plays I have, so far, recovered
but the title and date of production, with nothing
to show whether they are comedies, dramas, or
farces.
1. More Frightened than Hurt. A farcical comedy
in two acts. Sadler's Wells Theatre, 30 April, 1821.
2.* The Chieftain's Oath; or, the Rival Clans. A
melodrama founded on an older one entitled ' Oscar and
Malvinia.' Sadler's Wells, 30 July, 1821.
3. The Gipsey of Derncleugh. A melodrama in three
acts, adapted to stage representation from the novel of
' Guy Mannering.' Sadler's Wells, 26 Aug., 1821. (' The
Witch of Derncleugh,' by Planche, was produced at the
English Opera-house a month earlier, and ' Dirk Hatter-
aick ; or, the Sorceress of Derncleugh ' at the Coburg
two months later.)
4. The Smoked Miser; or, the Benefit of Hanging.
An interlude in one act. Sadler's Wells, 23 June, 1823.
5.* The Island; or, Christian and his Comrades.
Founded on Byron's poem of the same name. Sadler's
Wells, 28 July, 1823.
6.* The Seven Ages. A dramatic sketch. Advertised
for immediate publication early in 1824, but now un-
obtainable. (Qy. if ever acted 1)
7. Bampfylde Moore Carew. Sadler's Well?, 21 May
1824.
8.* The Living Skeleton. Coburg, 15 Aug., 1825.
9.* London Characters. A comic sketch in one act.
Coburg, 21 Nov., 1825.
10.* Popular Felons. Coburg, 5 June, 1826.
11. Paul Pry. A comedy in three acts. Coburg,
27 Nov., 1826.
12. The Statue Lover ; or, Music in Marble. A vaude-
ville in one act. Vauxhall, 2 June, 1828.
13. The Tower of Lochlain; or, the Idiot Son. A
melodrama in three acts. Coburg, 1 Sept., 1828.
14. Descart, the French Buccaneer. A melodrama in
two acts. Coburg, 1 Sept., 1828.
15. Wives by Advertisement; or, Courting in the
Newspapers. A dramatic satire in one act. Coburg,
15 Sept., 1828.
16. Ambrose Gwinett, a Seaside Story. A drama in
three acts. Coburg, 6 Oct., 1828.
17. Two Eyes Between Two. Coburg, 13 Oct., 1828.
18. Fifteen Years of a Drunkard's Life. A melodrama
in three acts. Coburg, 24 Nov., 1828.
19. John Overy, the Miser of Southwark Ferry. A
drama in three acts. Surrey, 20 April, 1829.
20. Law and Lions. An original farce in two acts.
Surrey, 21 May, 1829.
21. Black-Eyed Susan; or, All in the Downs. A
nautical drama in three acts. Surrey, 8 June, 1829.
22.* Vidocq, the French Police Spy. Surrey, 6 July,
1829.
23.* The Flying Dutchman. Surrey, 15 Oct., 1829.
24.* The Lonely Man of Study. Surrey, 3 Nov., 1829.
25. Thomas a Becket. An historical drama in five
acts. Surrey, 30 Nov., 1829.
26.* The Witchfirider. A melodrama founded on a
novel of the same name by the author of ' The Lollards.'
Drury Lane, 19 Dec., 1829.
27. Sally in Our Alley. A drama in two acts. Surrey,
11 Jan., 1830.
28. * Gervase Skinner. Adapted from Theodore Hook's
'Penny Wise and Pound Foolish.' Surrey, 25 Jan.,
1830. "
29. The Mutiny at the Nore; or, British Sailors in
1797. A nautical drama in three acts. Pavilion, 7 June,
1830.
30.* The Press-gang; or, Archibald of the Wreck.
Surrey, 5 July, 1830.
31. The Devil's Ducat ; or, the Gift of Mammon. A
romantic drama in two acts (and in verse). Adelphi,
16 Dec., 1830.
32. Martha Willis, the Servant Maid. A domestic
drama in three acts. Pavilion, 4 April, 1831.
33.* Paul Braintree, the Poacher. Coburg, 5 July,
1831,
34.* The Lady Killer. Surrey, 15 Oct., 1831.
35. The Bride of Ludgate. A comic drama in two
acts. Drury Lane, 8 Dec., 1831.
3tf. The Rent Day. A drama in two acts. Drury Lane,
25 Jan., 1832.
37. The Golden Calf. A comedy in three acts. New
Strand, 30 June, 1832.
38.* The Factory Girl. A domestic drama. Drury
Lane, 6 Oct., 1832.
39. Nell Gwynne ; or, the Prologue. A comedy in
two acts. Covent Garden, 9 Jan., 1833.
40.* Jack Dolphin. Apparently a nautical piece ; was
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acted in the provinces about 1833, Hg I learn from
a letter which the dramatist wrote to T. P. Cooke. The
letter has no year's date on it, and I have so far failed
to trace the play.
41. The Housekeeper. A drama in two acts. Hay-
market, 17 July, 1833.
42.* Swamp Hall. Haymarket, September, 1833.
43. The Wedding Gown. A comedy in two acts. Drury
Lane, 2 Jan., 1834.
44. Beau Nash, the King of Bath. A comedy in three
acts. Haymarket, 16 July, 1834.
45.* Hearts and Diamonds. Olympic, 13 Feb., 1835.
46 The Schoolfellows. A comedy in two acts. Queen's,
16 Feb., 1835.
47. The Hazard of the Die. A tragic drama in two
acts. Drury Lane, 16 Feb., 1835.
48.* The Man's an Ass. Olympic, 17 Feb., 1835.
(The MS. of this piece, briefly inscribed " played once,
and damned," is in the Forster Collection at South
Kensington Museum.)
49. Doves in a Cage. A comedy in two acts. Adelphi,
21 Dec., 1835.
50. The Painter of Ghent. A play in one act. Strand,
25 April, 1836.
51. The Man for the Ladies. A farcial comedy in two
acts. Strand, 25 April, 1836.
62.* The Bill-Sticker. Strand, 21 July, 1836.
53. The Perils of Pippins; or, the Man Who " Couldn't
Help It." A travestie drama in four acts. Strand,
22 Aug., 1836.
54.* The Gallantee Showman
Home. Strand, 28 March, 1837.
55.* The Mother. A drama.
1838.
56. The White Milliner. A comedy in two
Covent Garden, 9 Feb., 1841.
57. The Prisoner of War. A comedy in three acts.
Drury Lane, 8 Feb., 1842.
58. Bubbles of the Day. A comedy in five acts. Covent
Garden, 25 Feb., 1842.
59. Gertrude's Cherries; or, Waterloo in 1835. A
comedy in two acts. Covent Garden, 10 Sept., 1842.
60. Time Works Wonders. A comedy in five acts.
Haymarket, 26 April, 1845.
61. The Catspaw. A comedy in five acts. Haymarket,
9 May, 1850.
62. Retired from Business. A comedy in three acts.
Haymarket, 3 May, 1851.
63. St. Cupid; or, Dorothy's_ Fortune. A comedy in
or, Mr. Peppercorn at
Haymarket, 21 May,
acts.
three acts. Windsor Castle, 21 Jan., 1853, and Princess's
Theatre the following evening.
64. A Heart of Gold. A drama in three acts. Princess's,
9 Oct., 1854.
65.* Mammon.
66.* Bajazet Gag ; or, the Manager in Search of a
Star.
Nos. 65 and 66 are mentioned in the ' Life and Re-
mains of Douglas Jen-old,' with no clue as to dates.
67.* Rival Tobacconists. No clue as to date.
68.* The Spendthrift. A comedy, as yet unacted.
Should any reader of ' N. & Q.' be able to fill
up any hiatus in my list, I shall feel indebted for
the information. I have placed an asterisk against
all those pieces of which I know no printed edition.
WALTER JERROLD.
noble mansion of red brick with stone dressings and
a lofty roof of greenish slate, which, with its stately
company of huge elms, for nearly two centuries
gave repose and an incomparable grace to Chiswick
Lane" — had recently, trees and all, been com-
pletely abolished. It hardly, perhaps, mitigates
the regret which every lover of the past must feel
at learning that this fine relic of an earlier and
more reverent age has disappeared, to know that
considerable doubt exists as to whether the house
in question was that occupied by Mr. Ranby.
Ranby was a personage of some importance in his
day, as he was not only Serjeant-Surgeon to King
George II., whom he is said to have attended at
the battle of Dettingen, but was also the intimate
friend of Fielding, who made a complimentary
reference to him in the Man of the Hill's story in
1 Tom Jones,' and of Hogarth, who, about the year
1748, made an etching of his house and its sur-
roundings. If this etching is carefully examined,
it will be seen that on the right-hand margin is
half of a dome-shaped building. This building can
only be Lord Burlington's villa (now the Duke of
Devonshire's), as none other possessed a cupola
at that time. On the left is a large house which
agrees with Corney House, and Mr. Ranby's,
which, as we learn from the copy of the print in
the British Museum, was taken from the window
of Hogarth's house, is probably that which was
built by Sir Stephen Fox as his residence. Under
date 30 Oct., 1682, Evelyn says he
"went with my Lady Fox to survey her building, and
gave some directions for the garden at Chiswick; the
architect is Mr. May ; somewhat heavy and thick, and
not so well understood ; the garden much too narrow, the
place without water, near a highway, and near another
great house of my Lord Burlington, little land about it,
so that I wonder at the expense ; but women will have
their will."
On the 16th of the following June Evelyn dined
at the house, which must then have been com-
pleted. Its subsequent history is given by Lysons
('Environs of London/ ed. 1811, vol. ii. pt. i.
p. 132), and after the death of its last occupant,
Lady Mary Coke, the house and gardens were
purchased by the Duke of Devonshire, the former
pulled down, and the latter incorporated in his
own magnificent property. On 1 June, 1813, the
duke drove Miss Berry down to see the place, and
she writes enthusiastically of the alterations which
MR. RANBY'S HOUSE AT CHISWICK.
A paragraph appeared in the Athenwum for
26 Sept,, 1896, p, 426, stating that this house—" a
he had effected (* Journals and Correspondence,'
ii. 535). This, then, must, I think, have been the
house occupied in 1748 by Mr. Ranby, probably
as a tenant of the Earl of Northampton, who, as
we learn from Lysons, was then the owner of the
property. Its situation, as seen from Hogarth's
house, will easily be recognized from the sketch
map at p. 244 of ' Chiswick ' (edited by W. P. W.
Phillimore and -W. H. Whitear). On this map N
represents Hogarth's house, K Chiswick House,
and R Corney House. Mr. Ranby's house would
8 S. XI. FEB. 13, '97.]
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123
be visible from N as occupying an intermediate
site between K and R, and I think there can be
little doubt that it disappeared more than eighty
years ago.
Mr. Whitear, of Chiswick, whose high authority
on all matters connected with that interesting
suburb admits of no dispute, is of opinion that the
building which, as stated in the Athenaeum, was
lately in the hands of the housebreakers, was pro-
bably Brad more House or College, Chiswick Lane
(opposite Mawson Lane), and was in all likelihood
the house formerly occupied by Dr. William Kose,
the translator of Sallust, of whom a long account
is given by Faulkner, in his * History of Brentford,
Baling, and Chiswick/ ed. 1845, p. 349. Faulkner
says Dr. Kose's house in Chiswick Lane adjoined
the chapel. This chapel was destroyed some years
ago, but there is a woodcut of it in Faulkner,
p. 454, and it was close to the site in question.
It is well known that Pope lived for some years
with his parents in Mawson Kow — then known as
Mawson's New Buildings — after their removal
from Binfield till his father's death in 1717. The
exact house is not known, and the rate-books
throw no light on the subject, but it is popularly
believed to have been the corner house, generally
known as Mawson House. It may, therefore, be
interesting to note, while I am on the subject of
Chiswick, that I have lately learnt that plans have
passed the vestry for the conversion of the house in
question into a public-house. Comforting, indeed,
it is for those who have spent the greater part of
their lives in exile, to find on their return to their
native land that they are still under the sway of
practical bodies who tolerate no romantic nonsense
about " boetry and bain ting."
W. F. PRIDEAUX.
Kingsland, Shrewsbury.
OLD RECORDS CONCERNING MART, QUEEN OF
SCOTS. —In the year 1836 it was found that many
Exchequer records were lying in a vault in Somerset
House, the door of which was built up and entrance
to which was gained by a ladder placed against a
hole that had once been a window. No notice of
the discovery was taken by the Treasury until 1838,
when a fishmonger in Hungerford Market (Mr.
Charles Jay) offered to buy the papers at 81. a ton.
They were in 100 boxes, and many others were
scattered loosely upon the floor ; they ranged from
the time of Edward IV. up to 1788, and chiefly
related to State expenditure. They were dirty and
mouldy, and were first examined, then torn down
the middle, and sold to the fishmonger. A few were
afterwards reunited, the following document, though
mutilated, being one of the saved. It concerns the
expenses of Queen Elizabeth's Exchequer upon the
Babington conspiracy and the trial of Mary,
Queen of Scots, and it was authenticated by the
signature of Lord Burghley :—
xxv° die Octobris Anno Kegni D'ne n're Elizabeth
Elne &c. xxixno. Allowed unto John Puckeringe one
of her Maiestes Sergiauntes at the Law by waye of
Uewarde for his travell out of the countrie and at-
endaunce from the viiith of October Anno D'ne 158(5
and for hya paynes in and about thexaminacions, indict-
mentes and trial Is of Ballard, Babington and the rest
of that Conspiracye.
And for his travell, chardges and paynes taken in the
matter of the Queen of Scottea at Fotheringay.
And for his attendaunce, travell and paynea taken in
;he Draught of the Com'ission and sentence and in other
the proceeding against the same Q. of Scottes in the
vacac'on and tearme.
To the above no moneys were attached, but in
another handwriting, partly torn away by the
destroyers (but easily supplied), was the following :
xxvjjmo October 1587. Allow and pay unto the said
Mr Serge (ante) Puckering in full satisfaction of) the
said charges and expenses (the) some of one hundreth.
markes.
To Mr Ro. Pe(tre one of the) foure tellora of (the Ex-
chequer) and to every of them.
(Signed) W. BURQHLEY.
The town accounts of Leicester contain an item
for expenses incurred by Sir Amyas Paulett when
en route for Fotheringay with Mary Stuart in his
harsh keeping : —
Paid for two gallons of Gascony wine, one gallon of
sack and three Ibe. of sugar given to Sir Amias Pollett at
his being at Leicester then having there the Scottish
Queen the three and twentieth day of September,
11*. 4cZ.
Paid to three men for two nights watching of Sir
Amias Pollett's carriages at his being there with the
Scottish Queen, 2s.
HILDA GAMLIN.
Camden Lawn, Birkenhead.
HORACE, ' SAT.,' I. v. 100. —
Credat Judaeus Apella, non ego.
In his well-known humorous account of his
journey to Brundusium Horace relates, among other
things, that at Egnatia they showed him a temple
where the priests pretended that the incense on the
altar was ignited spontaneously without the appli-
cation of fire ; whereon he exclaims, " The Jew
Apella may believe this if he likes, not I. '
The question has often been asked, Who was
the Jew Apella ? But nobody has ever answered
it — nobody knows — nothing more is said about
him in this passage, and there is no mention
of him anywhere else. Commentators have never
agreed about the point, or settled it in any way.
Bentley seemed to think the reference must have
been to some specially credulous Jew of that name,
not elsewhere mentioned ; and various learned con-
jectures have been made on the subject, without
any conclusive result.
But it is well known that, in the time of Horace,
Apella was a very common name among Jewish
freedmen in Transtiberine Rome ; see, inter alia,
( Cic. ad Fam.,' vii. 25, " Ne Apellse quidem liberto
tuo dixeris." Now, to a Roman, and especially to
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
[8«> S. XI. FEB. 13, '97.
a sneering sceptic like Horace, all Jews must have
appeared excessively credulous, by reason of their
religious beliefs, and hence they doubtless became
in the eyes of the Romans the very type of super-
stition and credulity ; and since Apella was a
common Jewish name in Rome, it would be
natural enough for a Roman to say, regarding
anything which he considered incredible, Let Apella
the Jew believe that.
Seamen think, or used to think, or to pretend to
think, that the marines were very credulous and
gullible ; and Joe used to be a common generic
nickname for a marine. Hence it might easily
happen that a sailor, speaking of something in-
credible, might exclaim, "Joe the marine may
believe that, not I"; and two thousand years
hence learned commentators of a future nation,
meeting the expression in some book or play, might
launch out into futile speculations as to who this
Joe the marine was ?
Some have thought that Apella was not a personal
name at all, but an adjective ; that it ought to
commence with a small a ; and that it means cir-
cumcised, being composed of alpha privative and
TreAAa, skin — a defectu prceputii— but this inter-
pretation has been rejected by all later criticism,
and is absolutely untenable, since no such word
exists in Greek, or is met with anywhere except in
this passage.
On the supposed superstitious and credulous
character of the Jews see also * Woodstock/chap. xvi.,
where Bletson says to Markham Everard, " These
Jews have always been superstitious — ever since
Juvenal's time, thou knowest."
Qualiacunque voles Judaei somnia vendunt.
PATRICK MAXWELL.
Bath.
PARSLEY: ITS FOLK-LORE. — The following
passage is from a poem by "Mr. Richard Barnslay"
in 'Wit Restor'd,' 1658, p. 152, J. Camden
Hotten's reprint, n.d. : —
Cast away Willow, Lady, then and choose,
Dog-tree, or hemlock, or the mornfull yewes
Tome from some church-yard side, the cursed thorne
Or else the weed, which still before it 'a borne
Nine times the devill sees ; if you command
lie weare them all, compos'd by your fayre hand
So that you '1 grant mee, that I may goe free
From the sad branches of the willow tree.
Is not the "weed" alluded to parsley, the seed
of which, according to a Yorkshire saying, goes
nine times to the devil before it comes up? It
is needless to say that the seed remains a con-
siderable time in the ground before it germinates.
F. C. BIRKBECK TERRY.
TROSTON.— With reference to MR. F. T. HIB-
GAME'S note at p. 8, ante, may I be allowed to
correct a correction ? MR. HIBGAME wrote of
Troton Hall, Suffolk, which the Editor corrected to
Tra&ton, a small matter, but small errors sometimes
breed greater ones.
Troston is the correct name, and the village,
some seven miles from Bury St. Edmunds and in
the diocese of Ely, is a singularly isolated place.
The story goes that in 1680 the parish was bought
by one Robert Maddocks,
"whose father was descended from the family formerly
possessed of the sovereignty of Wales, and left that
principality at the age of thirteen, on foot, friendless,
and alone, in search of employment. Having arrived in
London, he repaired to Cheapside, where, observing a
merchant soil his shoe, in crossing the street, he im-
mediately ran and brushed off the dirt. The merchant,
struck with the boy's attention, inquired into his situa-
tion, and, having heard his story, took him into his
service. After some time he was employed in the
counting-house ; and in the sequel became a partner in
the firm, and acquired a considerable fortune."
Mr. Maddocks was evidently of the same stock
as Southey's Madoc.
Edward Capel, who was deputy-inspector of
plays, and edited Shakespeare, was born at Troston
Hall in 1713, and the two Capel Loffts of Troston,
who came after, were both men of considerable
talent. Of Capel Lofft the younger Harriet
Martineau was very fond ; she wrote of him : —
" He was one of the most striking of my occasiona
visitors, the author of that wonderful book, the merits
of which were discovered by Charlea Knight, 'Self-
formation,' which should be read by every parent of
boys. Those who know the work do not need to be told
that the author was a remarkable man; and if they
happen to have met with his agrarian epic, ' Ernest,' a
poem of prodigious power, but too seditious for publica-
tion, they will feel yet more desire to have seen him
He was neat and spruce in his dress and appearance,
with his glossy olive coat, and his glossy brown hair,
parted down the middle, and his comely arid thoughtful
face. He was as nervous as his father, and by degrees
I came to consider him as eccentric, especially when I
found what was his opinion of the feminine intellect, and
that his wife, to whom he appeared duly attached, did
not know of the existence of his poem. [The Quarterly
Review put an end to the secrecy some time afterwards.]
He died early, but not before he had left a name in the
world by his 'Self- formation,' and an impression of
power and originality by his formidable epic." — Harriet
Martineau's * Autobiography,' second edition, 1877,
vol. i. pp. 416-7.
Does anybody now read ' Self- formation ' ; and
what has become of the formidable agrarian epic
1 Ernest ' ?
It should also be noted that in 1842 Troston was
visited by Carlyle and his wife, who stayed with
the Rev. Reginald Buller, then rector of the parish.
Mrs. Carlyle gives a very comical account of her
host, and of her own pranks in the church, reading
French novels, stretching herself out for a nap,
and so forth. In that church, too, she was diverted
by the piping clarionet of old John Warren, who
led the choir — the clarionet is still in the village.
The present squire is Mr. Robert Emlyn Lofft,
who at one time was a great breeder of red-polled
cattle.
xi. FEB. is, w.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
125
I may add that in no part of the United King-
dom have I seen such lovely, far-stretching haw-
thorn hedges as those which border on Troston
Heath, the traditional site of a battle between the
Danes and Saxons. These beautiful hedges are
locally called "fences," which are a wonderful
eight when the may is in full blossom.
JAMES HOOPER.
THE FIRST AMERICAN PHARMACOPCEIA. — It may
be of interest to note that the first Pharmacopoeia
published in the United States was that issued by
the Massachusetts Medical Society (8vo., Boston,
E. & J. Larkin, 1808). A copy of the said work
is preserved in the British Museum Library.
DANIEL HIPWELL.
PEACOCK. — The following instances of the use
made of the peacock as an ornament or an em-
blem in various ways, at very different dates, may
be worth recording. Story mentions that very fine
peacocks and bulls were found near the Mole at
Rome, and were considered as having been decora-
tions for either the gates or statues (Blackwood,
1870).
Sheehy (' Reminiscences of Rome,' 1838, pp. 49,
114) mentions that in the Vatican are the two gilt
bronze peacocks, and that they belonged formerly
to Hadrian's tomb. He remarks that the peacock
was the emblem of vanity and pride, and notices
that St. Austin says, that owing to the fancied in-
corruptability of its flesh, it was an emblem of
the just man being proof against worldly cor-
ruptions.
King John's father made him King of Ireland.
Tbe Pope confirmed the grant, and gave him a
crown of peacock's feathers in consideration of his
poverty (Strickland, ' Queens of England/ viii.
39). This rather singular Papal gift recalls to
mind the great peacock feather fans borne on each
side of the Pope as he is carried up the nave of
St. Peter's.
It appears by an inventory of the Queen of
England of 1348 that she had possessed cloth
of diaper with peacocks of gold on it. At Queen
Margaret's wedding, 1468, was exhibited a peacock
having a mantel of fleece of gold (Archceologia,
xxxi. 354, 336).
In sculpture the peacock is found on the
Ravenna ambo, two on the screen of S. Vitale,
one on the frieze of the ivory throne of S. Maxi-
mian at Ravenna, one at Brescia, one at Torcello
A.D. 1008, and one in the cathedral of Ancona.
It was sacred to Juno and empresses, was carved
on their tombs and on funeral lamps, was the
symbol of their apotheosis, and came to be
used symbolically by early Christians (Builder,
No. 2808).
In the magnificent Durbar room at Osborne is
finely sculptured in white marble a large peacock
with expanded tail, 1891.
The Hebrew cherubim are described as being
" full of eyes " (Ezekiel x. 12).
Parkhurst (' Lexicon ') and Taylor ({ Oalmet's
Dictionary') connect this expression with the
so-called eyes of the peacock's feathers.
Arabian astronomers, in the sign Gemini of the
Zodiac, replaced the two boys by two peacockst
because of their law against the representation of
the human figure (Archceologia, xlvii. 343).
A medal of Mariana, wife of Valerian, has on
the reverse a peacock, standing with expanded tail
(Beger, ' Thesaurus Palatino,' 1685, i. 341).
A medal of Domitia, wife of Domitian, has on
the reverse a peacock, walking with closed tail
(Beger, ' Thesaurus Brandenberg.,' vol. ii.).
A medal of Julia Domna, wife of Severus, has
on the reverse a peacock, standing with expanded
tail (Beger, ' Thesaurus Brandenberg.,' ii. 696).
A. B. G.
LITERARY BLUNDER. — I cut the following letter,
headed "What Does It Mean ? " from the columns
of the Bostonian's favourite tea-table sheet, under
date of 5 Dec., 1896, as one of the oddest and
most peculiar literary blunders, certainly the most
careless, that ever emanated from the pen of an
English writer in reference to the United States.
Tbe death of the great statesman in question I, as
a humble individual, can vouch for, inasmuch as
I was one of the hundred thousand who witnessed
in 1874 the public funeral tendered to his remains
by the state of Massachusetts, whose interests he
had guarded with rare genius during his long
senatorial position at Washington. The pages of
the elder 1)' Israeli may show a series of mistakes
as curious as this, but I very much doubt it. Mr.
Sumner died issueless, never practised in the courts,
and it is not known that he ever crossed the
American continent 01 was ever on the Pacific
coast : —
" Dodd, Mead & Co. have just issued, in two hand*
some volumes, ' Travel and Talk : 1885-93-95. My
Hundred Thousand Miles of Travel,' by Rev. H. R.
Haweis, M.A., incumbent of St. James's, Westmoreland
Street, author of 'Thoughts for the Times/ 'Music and
Morals,' &c. In the chapter on New York, pp. 93-5, 1
read : ' Charles Sumner is one of those men who live
for ideas Charles Sumner has always been a fighter
of monopolies and jobs, and monopolists and jobbers
have revenged themselves upon him by shutting him out
of office when they could. But somehow there is a
vitality about integrity and pluck, and only last year
(1895) Sumner went to Washington and defeated a pretty
little Southern Pacific job,' &c. At this point I began to
be a little amazed, and turned to the preface, and there
read : ' H. R. Haweis, M.A., Queen's House, Chelsea,
1896.' Feeling satisfied that I was reading a recently
written volume, I resumed. At the end of another page,
concerning Mr. Sumner, I read the following : • I still
remember Sumner's warm grip and moist eye as he shook
me by the hand in 1893. at Francisco after my sermon at
the Golden Gate Hall. 'If we never meet again on
earth, may we meet yonder, friend,' said he, with a ring
of genuine emotion which deeply touched me. Sumner
was in England in 1883, and before leaving he came to
126
NOTES AND QUERIES. [8* s. xi. FEB. is, '97.
Si. James's, Westmoreland Street, one Sunday morning,
but was unable to effect an entrance. He seems to have
stood jammed up in the crowd at the door, and after
several futile attempts to get through, wrote the follow-
ing message on his card, which I only got after the
service. (I have his characteristic card now) :
10.50 A.M., Porch of St. James's, June 17, 1883.
As I can obtain or retain neither seat nor standing-
room, I will retire in good order. I am sorry that I could
not hear you. I congratulate you on your crowded con-
gregations. We sail Thursday, xxiv. Thanks for your
courtesies. CHARLES SUMMER.
To Rev. Mr. Haweis.
Great Scott ! Am I awake, or am I dreaming1? I
aroused myself sufficiently to take down my ' Sumner
Memorial.' There I read : ' Charles Sumner died at his
residence in Washington, at thirteen minutes before
three o'clock, on Wednesday afternoon, the eleventh day
of March, 1874.' Has Mr. Haweis been exceptionally
favored 1 Was Charles Sumner in England in 1883 ? Was
he in San Francisco in 1893 1 Did he go to Washington
in 1895, and defeat ' a pretty little Southern Pacific
job ? ' Pray do enlighten a very much puzzled reader.
ELHBGOS."
Boston, U.S.
PENOBSCOT.
A PURITAN RELIC. — A few days ago, while
turning over some old and forgotten books in a
friend's library, I stumbled across a seventeenth
century Book of Common Prayer. This relic of
the past has a handsome leather binding, richly
embossed with golden stamp and lettering, and silver
clasps. On the fly-leaf is inscribed the words :
"Susanna Pytt, her Booke." The printer was
Eobert Barker, " Printer to the King's most Ex-
cellent Majesty/' 1641. Susanna Pytt's name is
engraved on one of its silver clasps ; and the fol-
lowing lines, written in her own hand, appear
below her signature on the fly-leaf. Whether they
were her own composition, or copied from some
contemporaneous work, I know not ; but, thinking
that they may be interesting to the curious in such
matters, I offer them to the readers of ' N. & Q.':
Tis but a folly to reioyce and boast,
How small a Price my well bought Pen'worth cost.
Untill my death, thou shalt not fully know
Whether thy Purchase be good cheape or no;
And at that day, believ't, it will appear,
If not extreamely cheape extreamely Dear.
Tis not, what this man, or what that man saith,
Brings the least stone toth' building of my faith ;
My care may ramble, but my consciense ffollows
No man : I 'me neither Paul's, nor yet Apollo's :
When scripture gold lyes by me, is it just
To take up my Salvation, upon trust 1
My ffaith shall be confin'd to no man's lists ;
I 'le only follow Paul, as Paul is Christ's.
RICHARD EDQCUMBE.
SQUIRE'S COFFEE-HOUSE. — In vol. x. of this
series various notes appeared on Fulwood's Rents,
Holborn, and among them references to this coffee-
house, whence so many papers in the Spectator
are dated, and about whioh I am able to give
further information. On 1 June, 1894, an old
red-brick house, with a wide staircase, at the north
end and the west side of Fulwood's Rents, and
abutting on Field Court, Gray's Inn, was much
damaged by fire, and in the course of the following
September it was taken down. At that time I
called on the owners, as I wished to find out if
Timbs was correct in his statement that this was
Squire's Coffee - House ; and they courteously
allowed me to see the old deeds relating to it. I
only had an opportunity of looking at them for a
short time, but the following brief extracts of the
documents placed before me may be relied on so
far as they go. The earliest is Fulwood's title,
date 1600. The next, dated 26 May, 1602, is a
conveyance by " George ffulwood and Anne his
wife" to William Quick, of this tenement, "now
in the occupation of Francis Hartland Taylor." On
19 Nov., 1628, there is an assignment by Quick.
My other references, though comparatively late, are
fuller and more explanatory. The first is an in-
denture, dated 1 Aug., 1750, in which Edward
Metcalfe, of Drayton, Oxfordshire, lets to William
Whitaker, of the Middle Temple—
" All that messuage or tenement in ffulwood's Rents,
parish of St. Andrew's, Holborn, heretofore in the tenure
or occupation of George Squire, afterwards of Thomas
Howe his under-tenant, and now of the said William
Whitaker ; and now or late called Squire's Coffee-house,
in part of which said messuage or tenement the said
William Whitaker now holds the Sheriff's Courts of and
for the said County of Middlesex. Which said messuage
or tenement doth abut east on Fulwood's Rents, north
on Gray's Inn, and south on a messuage or tenement late
in the possession of Thomas E— ersley [name illegible]."
In 1751 this latter house was up for sale at
Garraway's ; it was described as "formerly the
Crown, and now the Swan, adjoining a messuage
formerly called Squire's Coffee- House, but now
used as the Court House, commonly called the
Court of Requests." Again, I saw "Particulars
of a freehold estate, comprising the Swan Public
House, advantageously situate for business in Full-
wood's Rents, adjoining the County Court House,
which will be sold by auction on Thursday, the
22nd Sept., 1785." Finally, under the date 1795,
there is a description of "an eligible freehold estate
in Fulwood's Rents, a substantial brick dwelling
house called the Swan. The premises are situate
adjoining south of the Court of Conscience." This
Court House was undoubtedly the old brick build-
ing destroyed in 1894. I have shown that it had
been Squire's Coffee-House. Of its connexion
with the house mentioned in Fulwood's title of
1 600 I have not given direct proof. No doubt
there are, or have been, intervening deeds, perhaps
not now forthcoming ; but I understood from the
solicitor connected with the property, who hap-
pened to be present, that Squire's Coffee-House
was on the same site, if not actually the same
building, which he was inclined to believe, but
which, from its style, seems improbable.
PHILIP NORMAN.
8th 8. XI. FEB. 18, '970
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We must request correspondents desiring information
on family matters of only private interest to affix their
names and addresses to their queries, in order that the
answers may be addressed to them direct.
"BREET." — This word is known in East York-
shire in the sense of " a flood caused by excessive
rains." Have any of your readers heard the word
used in any other part of Yorkshire, or elsewhere
in Great Britain ? THE EDITOR OF THE
'ENGLISH DIALECT DICTIONARY.'
Clarendon Press, Oxford.
"TRYST." — What is the correct pronunciation
of this word 1 As a Scotchwoman, I pronounce
the y long ; but I am told by friends from the
South it should be short. S. D.
( (All Scottish authorities make the y long. In York-
shire the practice is to make it short. Tryst, we have
it on excellent authority, means in Scotland a fair for
the sale of cattle, a meaning not given in Annandale's
Ogilvie. Its connexion with trust is generally noticed.]
A LANCASHIRE HORNPIPE. — What special kind
of hornpipe is this? Shelton, in a note on 'Don
Quixote,' pt. ii. ch. xx., to a Zamora bagpipe, says :
" Zamora, a town in Castile, famous for that kinde
of musicke, like our Lancashire hornpipe" (ed.
Nutt, vol. iii. p. 153). I have not the original at
hand, to give the exact Spanish equivalent.
H. T.
COURT MARTIAL. — Is it true that since the
inception of the court martial only three persons
have been sentenced and suffered death thereunder,
viz., Admiral Byng, and Captains Wade and
Kirkby ? The latter two were captains of the
ships Defiance and Greenwich, respectively, in
Admiral Benbow's expedition in the West Indies
in 1702. They were tried by court martial at
Port Royal, and sentenced to death for cowardice.
The sentence was carried out on H.M.S. Bristol,
at Plymouth, in 1702. There is said to have been
a quarrel between Benbow and his captains. Is
anything known of the details and evidence
adduced at the trial? What were Capt. Wade's
antecedents, and of what family was he ; also
Capt. Kirkby ? NEWTON WADE.
Newport, Monmouth.
'SHOTT."— Can you tell me the meaning of
shott or shot, which is a component of many
names of places in the district which stretches,
roughly speaking, from Bagshot to Midhurst ?
There are Aldershot, Bramshott, Greyshot, Shotter-
mill, with innumerable other examples. The same
affix occurs in the names of private domains, such
as Heyshott, Cockshott, &c. And it extends to
persons, Kingshott, for instance, being an extremely
common surname in the district in question.
Canon Taylor, in ' Names and Places,' says that shotf
or shot is a corruption of holt, Anglo-Saxon for a
wood ; but no authority is given for this statement,
which appears to be a pure assumption, or, as
might be said in the present connexion, a mere
shot. Holt, by the way, appears, strictly speaking,
to mean a grove, which is not quite precisely a
synonym for " wood"; there is the same difference
between the two words (and it is one which is
quite appreciable) as between sylva and lucus. If
Canon Taylor's supposition were well founded, holt
would probably have survived in some one or more
of the cases in which it was thus used. But, on the
contrary, whenever some ancient form of spelling —
say, of Bramshott — differs from that which is now
in use, this variation, so far as I have been able to
ascertain, does not tend to lead back towards holt,
but in some other direction. Moreover, is it quite
certain that the district in question ever was a
vast and unbroken tract of wood, as would have
been implied by the fact that a very large proportion
of all the named spots within its limits was
christened as a holt ? Is it not more likely to have
been in the past what it is now, that is to say, a
wild waste, with but a lean allowance of indigenous
trees — a forest, no doubt, in the technical sense of
the word, but without much wood except where
plantations have been made by the owners of the
soil? T. W. ERLE.
[See 5th S. ii. 149, 235, 355.]
PRINTS OP MILFORD HAVEN. — Some sixty or
more years ago I believe there was issued a print
showing the port of Milford. Can you tell who
the publisher was, and if there are any of the
prints still in existence ? MARTIN W. WINN.
" PEACE WITH HONOUR." — In the ' Life of Sir
Kenelm Digby,' recently published by Longmans,
I was surprised to find this phrase quoted in a
letter from Digby to Lord Bristol, dated 27 May,
1625. The passage is as follows : " You shall then,
without more adoe, kiss his [the King's] hands and
lyve in peace with honour." Did Lord Beacons-
field reinvent the phrase; or could he have seen
this letter ? Or is it still older, and did Digby
himself borrow it from some one else ?
ALLAN H. BRIGHT.
[The phrase is older, being used by Shakspeare,
'Coriolanus,' III. ii. ; also by Pepys. See 5th, 6">, and
7th S. passim.']
GALLIC COCK. —What is the real origin of the
Gallic cock ? E. P. B.
OBJECTS IN USE DURING THE NINETEENTH
CENTURY. — I am assisting in the formation of a
collection of objects which have been in common
every-day use during the nineteenth century, but
which are now obsolete or rapidly becoming so.
I should be glad of any suggestions as to what
ought to be included in order to make such a
colleption a camprebensiye one, 41feady out p,f
128
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use : rushlight-holders, tinder-boxes with the flint
and steel, coasters (the stands in which decanters
of wine and spirits circulated round a dinner table),
and flint-and-steel firearms. Going out of use :
warming-pans, snuffers, cow-bells (still used in
some of the southern counties), hop-tallies, stable
lanterns of tin stamped with holes in various
patterns to let the light through and with a horn
window in the door. Out of the above-named the
rushlight-holder, snuffers, flint pistols, warming-
pan, and cow-bells have been already obtained.
FLORENCE PEACOCK.
Dunstan House, Kirton-in-Lindsey.
'HALIFAX SHILLING." — Can any of your
readers give me information regarding a " Halifax
Shilling"? It was a current coin in the year 1828
in Canada, value one shilling and threepence.
Also I have a "Yorkshire halfpenny," date 1793.
It has on one side a head of a man in a broad-
brimmed hat ; on the other a coat of arms and the
words " Payable in Sheffield." I shall be grateful
for any information respecting it
A. C. HILLIER.
The Haye, Sherborne St. John, Basingstoke.
VICOMTE DE COURTIVRON was an officer in the
French army. He wrote one of the best treatises
on the art of swimming, more especially in its
military aspect. It passed through three editions
the last and best being published in Paris in 1836
According to the British Museum Catalogue his
full name was Ludovic Antoine Francois Marie
Le Compasseur de Courtivron, but he never calls
by any name except " Le Vicomte L. de
Courtivron." In Larousse (vol. v. p. 396) I find
the Marquis de Courtivron (born Dijon, 1753
died 1832), who I presume was the father of the
Vicomte. Louandre and Bourquelot, in 'La
Literature Frangaise,' vol. iii. p. 96, call him "le
Compolleur," which I think is a misprint : they
say he was bom "au chateau de Courtivron,"
4 August, 1786. He was a renowned swimmer
and able to stop six hours in the water and swim
in frozen rivers, and feared neither " cramp, waves
weeds nor whirlpools." In 1894 I inspected a
beautiful copy of his book at the Dijon Public
Library given by him, the illustrations being
coloured He was Mayor of Dijon. I shall be
much obliged^for the date of his death and a refer-
10 r»'af j» t ° i! ~ ' XvALPH J.HOMAS,
Id, Clifford s Inn, E.G.
GILBERT LE FRANCEYS, OP H ADDON. —There
is an unexplained interregnum in the Vernon line
between the years (according to Duesbury) 1265
and 1278, when the property was held by Gilbert
le Franceys. Richard Vernon, who was married
about 1195, had only one child, a daughter, who
married a Gilbert le Franceys, and their son took
the name of Vernon. Apparently these thirteen
years would be the time when Richard Vernon's
daughter and her husband held Haddon, yet there
is a discrepancy in the dates, unless Richard
Vernon lived for seventy years after his marriage,
and his son thirteen years after that !
F. H, C,
CHAWORTH. — Burke, in giving, in his ' Extinct
Peerage,' the lineage of the Barons Chaworth,
states that " Thomas Chaworth died v. p., leaving
by Joan Margaret, his wife, daughter of Sir Richard
Pole,"&c. Was this Sir Richard identical with the
Sir Richard Pole, K.G., who married Lady Margaret
Plantagenet, Countess of Salisbury, executed in
1541 ; or had this lady a second daughter, Joan
Margaret, omitted in the account given, in which
only one daughter, Ursula, wife of Henry, Lord
Stafford, is mentioned ? DE LA POLE.
HENRIETTA MARIA,— I have a black-letter
Book of Common Prayer, "Printed by Robert
Barker, Printer to the King's most Excellent
Majestie: And by the Assignes of John Bill.
1636. " In the Litany (printed " Letnany ") and in
the State prayer the name of the queen is given as
Mary. Can any of your readers oblige by inform-
ing me whether this is a peculiarity of this edition,
or whether there are other instances of the queen
of King Charles I. being designated Mary ?
Beckenham.
MEDAL STRUCK ON THE DEATH OF MART II. —
I have in my possession a medal struck on the
death of Mary, wife of William III. The obverse
has the queen's bust. On the reverse, to quote a
MS. descriptive of the medal,—
"at the foot of a funeral pile erected after the
manner of the antient Romans are seen three women,
representing Wisdom, Piety, and Constancy, which were
the virtues for which the Queen was particularly
eminent : the legend containing these words : Ouando
ullam invenient parem."
Can any reader of «N. & Q.' enlighten me as to
the value of this medal, or give me any other
information? W. D. OLIVER,
Teignmouth.
FULLERTON, OF CfiAIGHALL, AYR, AND YoRKS,
—How were they related? When did John
Fullerton, captain 73rd Foot, die, and where ?
A. C. H.
OLD PEWTER WARE.— A friend of mine has
in his possession several pewter dishes, which
tradition alleges to have belonged to an ancestor of
the family in the year 1676. They are stampec
below with the words "Made in London," ana
with what I assume to be the makers' names,
' Townsend & Compton." Can any one tell me
at what date the firm of Townsend & Comptoi
was in existence? I have ascertained that the
books of the Pewterers' Company have not, at any
rate subsequent to 1694, any entry showing
fit* S. XI. FEB. 13, '97. J
NOTES AND QUERIES.
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Townsend & Compton in partnership. Any advice
as to the best way to find the date of this firm's
existence, or — which is the real point — the age of
the pewter dishes in question, will be gratefully
received. B. P. SCATTERGOOD.
Park Square, Leeds.
SS. CYRIAOUS AND JULIETTA. — During my
wanderings in the West of England last summer
I visited a little country church dedicated to these
two saints, the local tradition regarding whose his-
tory, and the Roman governor under whose auspices
they suffered martyrdom, is curious ; but before
giving further details, might I ask any of your
readers to tell us what is authoritatively known of
the history of these two saints ? J. B. H.
PRINCESS MATHILDE BONAPARTE. — May I
again ask you to decide "where doctors dis-
agree " 1 Reading Mr. Vandam's delightful book,
* Undercurrents of the Second Empire,' London,
Wm. Heinemann, 1897, I had occasion to look up
the name of this princess (if, indeed, a Bonaparte can
properly be called a princess, for their titles were
all of their own making). I find in Oates's f Diction-
ary of General Biography ' that she married, in
1841, Anatoli Demidoff, Count of San Donate.
The'Almanach de Gotha' — considered, I fancy,
the best authority — says she married on 1 Nov.,
1840, Anatole Demidow, Prince de San Donato.
' Men and Women of the Time ' says she married
10 Oct., 1841, the Russian Prince Anatole Demi-
doff. Which is correct ? J. B. FLEMING.
Kelvinside, Glasgow.
AUTHOR AND SOURCE OP QUOTATION WANTED.
—Can any reader supply me with title, authorship,
date, and form of first publication, &c., of the
stanzas below ? They are quoted to me by a friend
in whose memory they have lived for many years,
but who entirely forgets how he came by them : —
They met ; 'twas in the starry depths
Of August's cloudless sky ;
Fair Luna trod her silvery path
In matchless majesty :
The cricket chirped, the fire-fly
Pursued his fitful dance,
'Twas in the balmy slumbrous night
That those two met by chance.
With throbbing heart and beating pulse
He spoke in accents low,
And in her glancing eye there came
A deeper, warmer glow : —
Then, up the apple-tree she swarmed
And there vindictive spat,
For " he " was "Jack " my terrier,
And " she " our neighbour's cat.
G. F. 0.
SIR MICHAEL COSTA. — What was the full name
of the father of the late Sir Michael Costa (musi-
cian), what was his nationality, and when did he
die? J. T, THORP.
Regent Road, Leicester,
BUCKINGHAM HOUSE, COLLEGE HILL,
(8th S. ix. 445.)
I intended long ago to write a short note on
this subject, to which I have given some atten-
tion. Hatton, usually accurate, in his * New View
of London,' 1708, tells us that this is " a spacious
building on the east side of College Hill, now or
late in the possession of Sir John Lethieullier " ;
and as regards the position of the house he is fol-
lowed by Peter Cunningham. On the other hand,
Strype speaks of it as *' over against St. Michael's
Church," and therefore on the west side. He also
places it there in his map. He goes on to say that
it is "so called as being bought by the late Duke
of Buckingham, and where he some time resided
on a particular humour"; and (writing in 1720)
that "it is a very large graceful building, late the
seat of Sir John Lethulier, an eminent merchant,
deceased." From these conflicting statements as
to the position of the house, I was doubtful on which
side of the street it really was till the facsimile of
Ogilby and Morgan's map (1677), lately published,
decided the question, as I pointed out in a notice
of the map (see Academy, 18 May, 1895), and as
COL. PBIDBAUX has since shown in your pages. ^1
now again introduce the subject, because I wish, if
possible, to learn something more about the site
hard by, where Hatton places Buckingham House.
In the Christmas number of the English Illustrated
Magazine for 1891 I gave a view of two fine gate-
ways, with sculptured pediments, which might have
been designed by Wren, still standing on the east
side of College Hill, more or less opposite the site
of the ducal mansion. These gateways form the
means of access to two houses under one roof, that
to the south, 21, College Hill, being a capital speci-
men of a merchant's dwelling of the early part of
the eighteenth century, with a handsome staircase,
carved over- doors, and a finely panelled room on
the first floor. They stand back some distance
from the street, and seem to have no special rela-
tion with the gateways, which are older in style.
Moreover, these gateways are incorporated in a
frontage (shown in my view) which is not without
architectural merit, and which in old leases is
spoken of as " the stable." I should add that under-
neath both houses run very large cellars, connected,
and that within memory there was a small garden at
the back of No. 21. The owner of this house, who
was born in it, and whose father and grandfather
lived there before him, once kindly showed me an
abstract of title, which, though not going back to
the beginning, proved that in 1746 it belonged to
Charles Lethieullier, and had in all probability
been in the family for many years. It was then
tenanted by Sir Samuel Pennant, the previous
occupant having been Sir Robert Qodschall, The
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house afterwards passed by marriage to the Hulses.
At the time, not having seen Ogilby's map, I
thought that Hatton was right, and that these
gateways had once led to a courtyard at the back
of which stood Buckingham House, destroyed
soon after Strypo wrote to make room for the
present structures. Taking into consideration the
fact of the property having belonged to the
Lethienllier family, from its ground plan, and from
the style of the gateways themselves, and of
the building to which they belong, I now rather
lean to the opinion that here were the stables of
Buckingham House, with a garden at the back.
[ ought to add that Ogilby's map shows only one
entrance, where now are the gateways, which
leads into a large courtyard, beyond that a
garden ; Strype's map, on a smaller scale, is some-
what similar. The Duke of Buckingham came
to College Hill after he sold York House in 1672.
The Lethieullier family, originally from Brabant,
was of high standing in the City during the latter
part of the seventeenth century. Sir John was
Sheriff of London in 1674. In the ' Little London
Directory '(1677) he is described as of Mark Lane.
There were besides, Samuel, William, and Abraham
in Broad Street, Christopher in Turn-wheel Lane,
and another in Bush Lane. PHILIP NORMAN.
ROUND ROBIN (8th S. x. 391). See also 1st S.
in. 353, 461 ; 2** S. x. 287, 376 ; 5«> S. v. 267,
!35 ; vi. 157 ; 6th S. vii. 249. — MR. ADAMS
writes as if the subject had never before been
treated of in ' N. & Q.' I therefore add the missing
references, and I do this with the less scruple that
feel sure that, if MR. ADAMS had consulted them
he would not have written his note as it now
stands. For his view seems to be that, because in
L659 certain sailors sent a round robin, therefore
the expression had its origin in the navy (in this,
however, he seems to have the support of Mr
TimbB-.ec .2* S. x. 376-and the Rev. A. S.
Palmers 'Folk- Etymology >) • and he proceeds to
quote a naval word robandw a possible etymology.
And no doubt, if the expression did not occur
earlier than 1659, he would have some ground for
ais opinion. Yet, if he had consulted only the
first and the last of the references which I have
added above, he would have found that the ex-
pression was in use on land before 1659 For
m 1s* S. iii. 353 we are told that " in Dr Heylin's
controversy with Fuller on his ' Chnrch History '
the following quotation occurs": " That the Sacra-
ment of the Altar is nothing else but a piece
bread or a little predie round robbin."
And this "little predie round robbin" is reason-
think, taken by another correspondent
gWA, p. 461) to be "a small pancake," from the
Devonshire use of the expression. Now Fuller's
.hurch History' was published in 1655, and he
himself djed in 1661, and Heylin in 1662, so that
it is probable that Heylin's words above quoted
were written before 1659. And we have a still
earlier use of the expression given in 6th S. vii. 249,
where " the famous round robin presented to Par-
liament" (in 1643) is spoken of.
It is, therefore, by no means certain that "round
robin " was first used by sailors.
I myself once wrote a note on " round robin "
(in 1886), but for some reason or other I never
sent it to ( N. & Q.' From this note I shall take
what I still have to say, for I have not since
changed my opinion.
I quite agree with MR. ADAMS in denouncing
the ridiculous derivation from "rond ruban." I
have not even been able to find that there is any
corresponding expression in French, and certainly
rond ruban was never so used, if ever used at all.
As for my own opinion, I based it upon the fact
that round robin is used for at least five different
things.
1. "A small pancake" (Halliwell), and this mean-
ing, from what I have said above, may be 250 years
old.
2. "A sacramental wafer " (A. S. Palmer,
op. cit.\ and see above.
3. A petition with the signatures arranged in a
circle, the meaning we are now dealing with and
the only meaning known to most people.
4. " A hood above the nave or hub of a vehicle,
to prevent the street mud from falling upon the
axle otherwise called a dirt-board [dirt-clout]
or round robbin " (Knight's ' Diet, of Mechanics,1
Cassell & Co., no date, but not later than 1889,
when I bought it— s.v. " Cuttoo-plate," which
seems to be a corruption of the Germ. " Koth-
platte").
5. "A small ring or cylinder (now commonly
lined with india-rubber), which serves to fix
the back cross spring of a carriage to the side
spring when this is fixed singly." This definition
was given me by a coach-builder, who showed me
one of these round robins and said it diminished
the vibration of the carriage. He knew the term
dirt-clout (see 4), and said that the object so
designated was now only to be seen in country
waggons ; but he had never heard it called a round
robin.
When I first came across the meanings 4 and 5,
it naturally struck me that, as the one keeps off
dirt from the axle, and the other lessens the vibra-
tion of a vehicle, and both these effects are partly,
or chiefly, due to the roundness of the objects, so
meaning 3 — the one we have before us— in which
likewise roundness serves to prevent annoyance,
might have been derived from, or have something
to do with, these two meanings. But it is, of
course, impossible to come to any decision with
regard to this matter till one knows the respective
ages of meanings 3, 4, and 5, and this, I am afraid,
even the ' N. E, D.; will fail to make out, as the
8th S. XI. FEE. 13, '97.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
131
age of technical terms must commonly be shrouded
in the greatest obscurity.
In the mean time, therefore, I will content my-
self with the suggestion that in all these five cases
robin is merely the familiar double diminutive of
Robert ( = Rob-f-in), and that, like other diminu-
tives, especially Jack, which is applied to a number
of objects* (not to speak of individuals and animals),
this robin is merely a picturesque and euphonious
substitute for thing or object, and was probably
selected to follow round because it gave rise to
some sort of alliteration or assonance, each word
containing ro-n. This was the conclusion I came
to in 1886, and this is my conclusion still. I
base it chiefly upon the consideration that the
only apparent connexion between the five objects
called round robin is their roundness, and that it
would be exceedingly difficult, if not impossible, to
find out any other derivation for robin which could
suit all the five meanings. F. CHANCE.
Sydenham Hill.
Wright's f Provincial Dictionary1 has, "Round
robin, a small pancake. Devon." A robin-roll
is known in Oxford shops. ED. MARSHALL.
SIR FRANC VAN HALEN, K.G. (8th S. xi. 84).—
Permit me to inform the REV. A. W. CORNELIUS
HALLEN that he is mistaken in stating that the
pedigree of Hall to which he refers was foisted on
the College of Arms at the Visitation of Salop,
1623. No pedigree of Hall, fictitious or otherwise,
is to be found in the official visitation in the college.
To my certain knowledge the so-called visitations
in the British Museum differ very materially from
the official visitations in the College of Arms, and
it is never safe to infer that pedigrees found in the
one will be found in the other.
Many erroneous statements concerning the
College of Arms and its records have appeared in
print during the last few years. As a case in point
allow me to refer to p. 178 of ' A Treatise on
Ecclesiastical Heraldry,' by John Woodward,
LL.D., where it is stated that the arms of the see
of Chichester are, by the authority of the College
of Arms, blazoned, "Azure, a Presbyter- John,
sitting on a tombstone, his right hand extended,
all or, with a linen mitre on his head, and in his
mouth a sword ppr." I have made reference to
every entry of the arms in the College1 books, and
in no single instance do I find them so blazoned,
but invariably are they represented as Azure, our
Blessed Lord in glory, seated on a throne, His
right hand upraised or, His left hand holding an
open book ppr. (sometimes an orb), and out of His
mouth a two-edged sword, point to the sinister,
gules. It is a pity that persons before making
* Comp. especially flap-jack in Halliwell, one meaning
being, curiously enough, " a pancake," and so =round
robin; and the other "a flat, thin joint of meat," which
looks as if Hap in this expression ia taken —flat,
charges against the College records do not take the
trouble to verify them.
CHARLES H. ATHILL, Richmond Herald,
College of Arms.
COUNTY FAMILIES (8th S, xi. 87).— There is one
work of a similar character to the * History of the
Commoners of Great Britain and Ireland,' by John
Burke, London, 1833, 4 vols., issued at an earlier
date, but it only applies to Scotland, i.e., 'The
Baronage of Scotland,' containing an historical and
genealogical account of the gentry of that kingdom,
by Sir Robert Douglas, Edinburgh, 1798. Before
this date the information concerning the gentry
was confined to visitations, lists or catalogues, and
county histories. JOHN RADCLIPFE.
No one has a better right than I to answer Miss
THOYTS'S question. It was Sir Bernard Burke
alone who about 1830 first published an account of
the chief of our landed gentry. His book was in
four volumes, and was called * Burke's Commoners.'
I simply followed in his wake, and at a humble
distance, in 1860 with my * County Families,' a
much less pretentious book, and with no claim to
originality. Nothingof the kind had been attempted
previously to Sir Bernard Burke.
E. WALFORD.
Ventnor.
THE REV. JAMES TUNSTALL, D.D. (8th S. xi.
85). — To the particulars given by MR. HIPWKLL
concerning Dr. Tunstall may be added that his
father was an attorney of Aysgarth, in Wensley-
dale, in 1739. He was instituted to the rectory of
Sturmer, in Essex, and in 1744 collated to the
rectory of Great Charte, in Kent. It is not quite
correct to say that " Dr. Tunstall's biographers are
in error regarding the dates of his birth and death,"
as both these are correctly recorded in my * History
of Rochdale,' published in 1889.
HENRY FISHWICK.
ANTIQUITY OF A SLANG PHRASE, "GETTING
UP EARLY" (8th S. xi. 86).— LORD ALDENHAM
remarks that he has never met with the slang
phrase about getting up early " or its like in
literature." What may be called the classical
example occurs in Lowell's 'Biglow Papers,1
No. 1 :—
An1 you 've gut to git up airly
Ef you want to take in God.
In the third of Swift's ' Polite Conversation '
dialogues Lady Answerall says, " Upon my word,
they must rise early that would cheat her of her
money.'1 & L. APPERSON.
CLAUDIUS DU CHESNE (8th S. xi. 87). —
"Duchesne, Claude, in Long Acre (of Paris),
admitted 0. 0., 1693 ; maker of a square full-
repeating bracket clock, inscription on back- plate,
'Claudius du Chesne, in Long Aker." Many
other examples of his work are to be met with,
132
NOTES AND QUERIES. [8tts.xi.FBB.ivw.
1693-1720 (Britten's 'Former Clock and Watch
Makers'). G. H. THOMPSON.
Alnwick.
"DIAMOND WEDDING" (8th S. x. 508).— Under
this heading it may be worth while to record the
circumstance that the Prince of Wales, on 5 Jan.,
in a speech delivered by him in the Town Hall of
Fenton, one of the outskirts of Stoke-on-Trent,
remarked : " We are glad to think that one of our
first acts in this memorable year — the Diamond
Jubilee of the Queen— is to take part in to-day's
ceremony." F. C. BIRKBECK TERRY.
WAVE NAMES (8th S. x. 432; xi. 32). — I
readily accept MR. HALE'S disclaimer, and express
my regret if anything in my former note was
offensive to MR. HALE. It is clear that the
Family Herald copied from the Globe without
acknowledgment. The Globe article was not
signed — "turnovers " never are signed — but I am
not prepared to admit that the fact of an article
being unsigned renders it "public property." That,
however, as Mr. Kipling would say, is another
story, and the present matter is too trivial to
afford a foundation for its discussion. In reply to
MR. HOOPER I may repeat that both " slog " and
" home " are given (s.v. " Home ") in the list of
' Sea Words and Phrases along the Suffolk Coast '
contributed by the late Edward FitzGerald, the
translator of Omar Khayyam, to the East Anglian,
vol. iii. (1869). G. L. APPERSON.
THE MATERIALS FOR BARROWS CARRIED IN
BASKETS (8th S. ix. 425, 513; x. 342, 361, 440).
— There are several references in Layard's * Nineveh
and its Remains ' to this mode of removing the
earth. The following is the earliest mention : —
"The soil when loosened, had to be removed in
baskets and thrown over the edge of the mound. The
Chaldeans from the mountains, strong and hardy men,
could alone wield the pick ; the Arabs were employed in
carrying away the earth." — Edition of 1849, i. 35.
T. N. BRUSHFIELD, M.D.
Salterton, Devonshire.
THE GROSVENOR, EAST INDIAMAN (8th S. x. 515 ;
xi. 73). — Your correspondent H. T. will find at
first hand the original official papers of the late
East India Company on the subject of the loss of
this vessel, containing all the information he seeks,
in the records at the India Office, Whitehall,
London. I am a long distance from home (Lon-
don), and consequently away from all my memo-
randa, otherwise I would have given him the
particulars he requires.
I take this opportunity (with the permission of
the courteous Editor of 'N. & Q.') of thanking
your correspondent MR. RALPH THOMAS for his
kindly mention of me ; also of saying, from ex-
perience, as a subscriber to * N. & Q.' of thirty
years'jitanding, that many of the queries therein
appear to me to be those of idlers, who evidently
have never given themselves the smallest trouble
to look for the information they require, and which
was, so to speak, right under their eyes at the time.
They are just as if a man who has lived all his life
in London, and is still living there, asked, Where
is Nelson's Column 1
Frequently I have measured the space occupied
with a query and the replies, and have found it to
be from two to eight inches, thus excluding the
printing of other information really difficult to find.
There are no fewer than three such queries in the
number for 23 January.
I, for one, protest moat strongly against this
waste of valuable space. I consider that ' N. & Q.'
should be used — for that purpose — only as a dernier,
and not as a premier ressort. Again, very fre-
quently a plain and specific question is asked, to
which an equally plain and specific reply is sought.
Instead of that, a reply on a side issue is given,
which is no reply, and is of no use whatever to the
querist. (An instance is supplied in the number
for 23 January, p. 77, as to the South Sea Com-
pany.) These always remind me of the schoolboy
story : " Do you know Mathematics [Matthew
Matics] 1 " Reply : " I knew his brother Jim,"
instead of the plain answer, Yes or No.
0. MASON.
Villa Byron, Monte Carlo.
CUNOBELINUS OR CTMBELINE (8th S. X. 474 ;
xi. 13). — Let me refer MR. FOSTER PALMER to
' Dio Cassius,' Ix. § 20, where he will find " 6 ovv
IIA,avTios ...... Trpwrov wev KaraparaKOV,
ToyoSov/xvov, Kvvo/JcAtvov TraiSas,
Cataratacus is evidently another form of the name
more familiar to us under that, Caractacus, in
which it appears in Tacitus ; he and Togodumnus
are here both called sons of Cunobelinus. It was
the rebellion and expulsion of another son,
Adminius, which led to the Roman invasion of
Britain in the reign of Claudius.
W. T. LYNN.
Blackheath.
As I suppose that Prof. Rhys may be^ regarded
as an authority on the history of Wales, it may be
as well to quote the following passage from his
1 Celtic Britain,' 1882, p. 35 :-
"Cunobelinos had other sons [i. e,, besides Adminius
or Amminus, previously mentioned], but the only ones
known to history were Togodumnos and Caratacos, who
ruled over their deceased father's kingdom when Claudius
sent Aulua Plautius here."
F. C. BIRKBECK TERRY.
LAW STATIONER (8"1 S. xi. 24). — The description
of a law stationer as given in the * Century Dic-
tionary' would certainly be nearer the mark if
altered as suggested by MR. RALPH THOMAS ; but
I rather doubt if there ought to be any allusion to
selling. A law stationer pure and simple does
not keep a shop, and practically sells nothing over
8* S. XI. FEB. 13, '97.]
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the counter, his stock of materials being kept for
use by himself in carrying on his business of en-
grossing and copying. I take it, when he opens a
shop and sells stationery he becomes something
besides a law stationer, and usually styles himself
a Jaw and general stationer.
With regard to engrossing wills on parchment
for signature by a testator, the practice is, no
doubt, uncommon, but it certainly has been, and
I daresay is still, occasionally adopted. Since
reading MR. THOMAS'S note, I have been shown, in
the books of a law stationer in large business of the
good old-fashioned type, entries of two wills so
engrossed. These occurred in 1852, one of them
being a will of great length and engrossed very
closely on six large skins of parchment, the other
on three skins. The law stationer informed me
that further search in his books would certainly
reveal a good many similar cases ; but he thought
he had not engrossed a will on parchment for some
considerable time, perhaps not since 1860.
Possibly, after all, Swift knew what he was
about when he wrote the passage quoted by your
correspondent from the * Tale of a Tub.'
C. M. P.
Of course MR. RALPH THOMAS is right. From
the modern law stationer, as a rule, you buy nothing
but handwriting. This is specially the case in the
provinces. In London, however, he still sells law
stationery and printed law-forms. I remember a
law stationer in York who had a shop-window
wherein draft-paper and red-tape were exposed,
but this was a rare exception (1865). Usually he
has offices similar to those of a solicitor. For
'Wills on Parchment,' see «N. & Q.,' 6th S. v.
110, 237, 378. W. 0. B.
The definition in the 'Century Dictionary,' as
amended by Mr. Thomas, is exactly right if
restricted to London. I do not think it applies
to any American city. Mr. Snagsby, as seen in
* Bleak House,' does not exist in New York. In
Philadelphia, before the war, there were scriveners
who made a business of preparing fair copies
of papers for lawyers and conveyancers. In
New York such copying is mainly, if not univer-
sally, done by clerks in the various law offices.
Some are copyists and nothing more; others are
in training to become lawyers, acquiring practical
familiarity with the forms of pleadings and other
papers. The type-writing machine came into use,
and its convenience as a means by which several
copies of one document can be made at once led to
its almost universal adoption in lawyers' offices, so
that now few papers are presented to the court in
other than type-written form. The court prefers
such papers. It is the rule, and the New York
statute requires, that transcripts of evidence and
proceedings made by the shorthand writers shall
be written or type- written in black ink on paper of
a prescribed size and weight ; but they were
formerly pen-written on legal cap. The type-
writer permits more rapid production, produces
more uniform work, and allows duplication of the
matter when requisite. It is doubtful if the young
men of to-day write as well as their fathers did,
As one gentleman expressed himself the other day
about a manuscript pleading, "Calligraphy is
becoming a lost art." Those lawyers who do not
keep a type-writing machine go to one near by,
and have their papers fair copied, or dictate them
to a shorthand writer who afterwards operates the
machine. Here the law stationer sells stationery
suitable for lawyers and anything that a penman
or accountant requires, he deals in law blanks, but
he does not keep an office for the copying of law
papers. JOHN E. NORCROSS.
Brooklyn, U.S.
The curious fallacy which makes authors and
other literary men refer to wills as being engrossed
on parchment is specially referred to in Mr. Walter
Rye's * Records and Record Searching,' second
edition, p. 103 (note), in which he says : —
"It is most amusing how nearly every novelist
(e. g., Kingsley in the Hillyara and the Burtons, where
the terrier finds the missing parchment up the chimney)
and playwright to this day, when in due course of events
the original will which is to restore the wronged persona
to affluence is discovered, describe it as 'parchment.'
I never saw an original will on parchment, but the
transcript or probate is always copied on it."
W. G. LAWKS,
46, Osnaburgli Street, N.W.
Taking in drafts or writings to be fairly copied
or engrossed for lawyers is no part of the law
stationer's business in America. F. J. P.
Boston, Mass.
DIVINING-ROD (8th S. x. 255, 302, 345).— The
divining-rod is in active use just now in North
Devon, and is about to be tried here (Ilfracombe).
The diviner goes on the principle of "no find, no
pay." I heard from a clergyman, who employed
him, that he stated that the rod was quite super-
fluous ; the sensation of the presence of water was
entirely in his own hands.
E. LEATON-BLENKINSOPP.
Readers of De Quincey's 'Confessions' will
remember the pedantic way in which (in a note,
p. 84) he explains pa[38ofJLavT€ia and several
cognate Greek terms, together with his cynical
advocacy of the powers of the divining-rod.
"In Somersetshire, which is a county the most ill-
watered of all in England, upon building a house, there
arises uniformly a difficulty in selecting a proper spot
for sinking a well. The remedy is to call in a set of
local rhabdomantists. These men traverse the adjacent
ground, holding the willow rod horizantally ; wherever
that dips, or inclines itself spontaneously to the ground,
there will be found water. I have myself not only seen
the process tried with success, but have witnessed the
enormous trouble, delay, and expense accruing to those
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of the opposite faction who refused to benefit by this
art. To pursue the tentative plan (i. e., the plan of try-
ing for water by boring at haphazard) ended, so far as
I was aware, in multiplied vexation. In reality, these
poor men are, after all, more philosophic than those who
scornfully reject their services. For the artists obey un-
consciously the logic of Lord Bacon : they build upon a
lone chain of induction, upon the uniform results of
their life-long experience. But the counter faction do
not deny this experience : all they have to allege is,
that, agreeably to any laws known to themselves, «
priori, there ought not to be any such experience. Now,
a sufficient course of facts overthrows all antecedent
plausibilities. Whatever science or scepticism may gay,
most of the tea-kettles in the Vale of Wrington are filled
by rhabdomancy even if Mephistopheles should be at
the bottom of the affair."
Nothing need nor can be added. De Quincey
locutus est, causa Jinita est. J. B. S.
Manchester.
The following is a cutting from the Stamford
Mercury of 15 Jan. : —
" Mr. William Stone, of Bolingbroke Hall, an exponent
of the ' divining rod,' attended at Spilsby on Monday to
discover water for u?e at the police-station. Mr. Stone
had some two months previously found water upon the
premises, but upon analysis it turned out to be impure.
The first place selected was the garden in the occupation
of the Superintendent of Police, on the north side of
the police-station. Mr. Stone had not gone more than
six or seven yards before the rod began to revolve in his
hands, thus indicating that be had found water. Capt.
Walker and others took the twig, but in their hands it
was motionless, yet when Mr. Stone touched it it again
began to move. An adjournment was then made to the
gardens south of the police-station, where further ex-
periments were made, which Mr. Stone stated to be
satisfactory."
CELBR ET AUDAX.
HUNGATE : HUNSTANTON (8th S. x. 171, 241,
360, 418, 459). — I have never found the surname of
Hunstan or Hunston at Hunstanton, but a Richard
Hunstan was Mayor of Lynn (not far off) in 1543,
and there were Hunatons at Walpole. John Hun-
deeson was implicated in the riot of Norwich in
1272, and the name may have been corrupted from
this, but in later years is almost certainly a corrup-
tion of Hunsdon. The name of Hunn, though now
at Hnnstanton, is not, I think, an old name there,
but is fairly common in Norfolk — e.g., Robert
Hunne, of Wymondham, was party to a fine in
24 Edw. I., and John Hunne to another as to
land in Felt well in 7-8 Hen. V. In Norris's
'Pedigrees,' pp. 1064-1205, the name is spelt
Le Hune, but this is probably another and foreign
family. Personally I have little doubt Hunstanton
or Hunston means the settlement of the de-
scendants of a person called Hunston or Hun, the
latter being a shortening of the former.
WALTER RYE.
Frognal House, Hampatead.
I do not quite follow PROF. SKEAT'S line of
reasoning. Just as the sign of the genitive has
fallen out of the second part of Hunstanton, which
was once Hunstanes-ton, so may the same process
have taken place with the first part of the word.
Domesday Book is no authority for word-spelling,
but it is curious to note that four out of the five
variations of Hunstanton commence with Hunes,
and if the 8 is not reduplicated that is no more
than we should expect. I object to the word
"guess" where evidence is adduced in support of
argument. The weight of PROF. SKEAT'S name
does not remove his conjecture from the same
category. I must also object that I did not refer
stan to cliff, or even rock, but to the great
boulders lying at the foot of the cliff ; nor did I
merely state that "there are no families of
Hunstan in Norfolk at present" but that to the
authority quoted it was not known that there had
ever been such a family name in East Anglia.
In the absence of proof, therefore, on this point, ib
seems to me that PROF. SKEAT'S positive assertion
is out of place.
By reference to Bishop ^Elfric's will I see that
the stream that skirts the old town is referred to
as jEstan-broke. Having regard to the Domesday
spellings Hunestanestuna and Hunestanesteda, one
cannot disregard the possibility of connexion
between the two. HOLCOMBE INGLEBY.
I cannot help inclining to the opinion that the
derivation from hund, a hound, as applied to, at
all events, some of the place-names in question, is
better supported than the one from hun, a foreigner.
Not only was the Cardiff Womanby spelt Hounde-
manneby in the earliest known occurrence of the
word (early fourteenth century), but, in the will
of Alderman Christopher Mathews, of Cardiff,
dated 25 February, 1717, it is called Howmanby,
showing that the diphthongal sound was then still
surviving ; but it is certainly strange to find the
termination by in South Wales.
JOHN HOBSON MATTHEWS.
Town Hall, Cardiff.
LETHERINGHAM PRIORY (8th S. xi. 26). — The
slip to which MR. F. H. GROOME refers as
occurring in the ' Letters of Horace Walpole ' (ed.
1891, vol. ii. p. 463), and as being endorsed by
Cunningham, is due not to Horace Walpole, but
to Cunningham himself, who has interpolated the
name (Wingfield) in the body of the letter. In the
4 Private Correspondence of Horace Walpole '
(4 vols., London, 1820) this letter to Bentley is
printed without the interpolation. Cunningham's
constant practice of making insertions in the text
of Horace Walpole's * Letters ' is most misleading.
HELEN TOYNBEE.
Dorney Wood, Burnham, Bucks.
GHOST-NAMES (8th S. xi. 64).— " Orris," as a
Christian name, ought, I think, to be classed with
these. I know two men who bear this name, and
spell it in this way. Surely they are named after
the Latin poet, not from the rhizome of the Iris
S*» s. XI. FEB. 13, '97.]
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In Belton Churchyard, near Doncaster, there is a
sfcone to the memory of Knathia Sarah Maw. Is
the first name a real one, or a ghost-name ? May
I also ask under this head for information respect-
ing the female name Khail or Khale ? I formerly
knew a Cornish lady who bore it, and I am told it
is not uncommon in Cornwall, but Miss Yonge
knows nothing of it. The unlearned, by the way,
are not the only people who make mistakes in
names. A former vicar of Long Clawson, in Lei-
cestershire, refused to christen a relative of mine
Kezia, because there was no such name ; and the
Bible had to be produced before he was convinced
of his error. 0. C. B.
BLANCO WHITE'S SONNET ON NIGHT (8th S. xi.
45). — May I be allowed to draw attention to the
note on p. 182 of the "Golden Treasury Series"
edition of Sir Thomas Browne's ' Hydriotaphia,'
where the origin of the leading idea in the sonnet
is pointed out.
EDWARD H. MARSHALL, M.A.
Hastings.
The analogy or main thought of this great
sonnet is to be found in other writers, of whom
Sir T. Browne, in his ' Religio Medici/ is one.
He says something like this : —
" Light which makes some things visible, hinders others
from being seen, and aa darkness reveals the noblest
part of creation, so death is the beginning of the true
fife."
I read Sir T. Browne through last winter (not for
the first time), and although I omitted to note
the passage, I am sure it is either there or in
some other of his works. E. K.
Boston, Lincolnshire.
CHURCH OR CHAPEL (8th S. x. 473; xi. 76). —
What your correspondents say is quite correct ; but
the curious thing, as it struck me, was that the
Catholic Bishop of Limerick should feel aggrieved
at Protestants employing the terminology which is
universally used by Catholics around them. When
I was a boy the Episcopal churches in this county
were always styled " chapels," and by the mass of
the people are called "English chapels" to this
day. Not long ago I heard a passenger in a train
telling a friend that, in Dundee, he had experienced
great difficulty in finding his way to a certain
Anglican church. At length some one to whom
he had spoken said, "Oh! I know. You want
the English chapel"; and directed him accordingly.
GEORGE ANGUS.
St. Andrews, N.B.
1 FACTS ARE STUBBORN THINGS " (8tb S. x. 357,
498). — One form of this saying is so prominent, and
I am so far away from ' N. & Q./ that I made no
attempt to send it, feeling sure that I should be
forestalled. However, your set of replies does not
include it. In 'A Dream,' by Kobert Burns,
Kilmarnock edition of his poems, p. 81, these
lines occur : —
Facts are cheels that winna ding,
An' downa be disputed.
This is the original spelling, and is continued in
the first Edinburgh edition, and again repeated in
the William Scott Douglas edition of 1891.
DOLLAR.
Wisconsin.
"IMPERIUM ET LIBERTAS" (8th S. x. 453; xi.
53). — When I sent the reference to Spenser for
this sequence, I was not aware of the following,
which is more prominent as well as earlier : —
" The first was Nerva : the excellent temper of whose
government is by a glance in Cornelius Tacitus sketched
to the life : Postquam divus Nerva res olim insociabiles
miacuisset imperium et libertatem ('Agric. Vit.,' c. iii.)."
— Bacon, ' Adv. of Learning," I. vii. 4.
The occurrence in such an author as Bacon is suffi-
cient to account for the prevalence of the form.
ED. MARSHALL.
WILLIAM CULLEN BRYANT (8th S. x. 254, 321).
— Although the query asked at the former refer-
ence has been answered at the latter, it has been
only by way of inference or probability. It may
be well to settle the matter decisively by quoting
from Mr. Bryant's autobiography, wherein he says :
" I was born in Cummington, in the State of
Massachusetts, on the 3rd of November, 1794."
Allibone is in error, as is frequently the case.
The impliedly correct statement in the supplement
is the work of another, so that MR. FLEMING'S
apologetic expression "in justice to Allibone" is
not applicable. GASTON DE BERNEVAL.
Philadelphia.
AUTHOR WANTED (8th S. x. 436, 504; ix. 33).—
I do not know what to make of Punch's " Humpty
Dumpty" line. It is plain prose. But the real
"Humpty" is, I think, as "Mica, mica," certainly
is, in ' Arundines Cami.' Here it is, if my memory
serves me rightly : —
Humptius in muro requievit Dumptius alto,
Humptius e muro Dumptius, heu ! cecidit.
At non Regis equi, Beginae exercifcus omnia
Humpti, to, Dumpti restituere loco.
ALDENHAM.
OLNEY (8th S. xi. 5).— The only place of this
name in England mentioned in Lewis's 'Topo-
graphical Dictionary ' and similar works to which
I have referred, is the town of Cowper in North
Bucks, which was at one time written ^ Oulney ;
and I know of no other, except an island in
the Severn — the scene of a duel between Canute
and Edmund Ironside. The former I have heard
pronounced by Northampton people as Only, and
by others with the sound of the oul as in the word
soul ; but the present local pronunciation — so Mr.
T. Wright, a resident there and author of 'The
Life of Cowper,' kindly informs me— is Oney, as
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rhyming perfectly with pony. Cowper playfully
says somewhere, *' The news at Olney is little or
noney," which would, however, appear to indicate
a pronunciation as oney rhyming rather with money
or honey. W. I. R. V.
GALLERIES IN CHURCH PORCHES (8th S. x. 396 ;
xi. 9).— The Koman Office for Holy Week has
the following rubric for the procession on Palm
Sunday : —
'Praecedit thuriferarius cum thuribulo fumigante;
deinde Subdiaconus paratup, deferens crucem, medius
inter duos Acolythoa cum candelabris accensis : sequitur
Clerus per ordinem, ultimo Celebrans cum Diacono a
ainistris, omnes cum ramis in manibus : et cantantur
sequentes Antiphonae vel omnes, vel aliquae, quoueque
durat Proceesio.
"•Ant. 'Cum appropinquaret Dominus Jerosolymam,'
&c.
" In reversione Processionis duo vel quatuor cantores
ntrant in Ecclesiam, et claueo ostio etantes versa facie
ad ProcesBionem, incipiunt V. ' Gloria, laus,' et decantant
duos primes versus. Sacerdos vero cum aliis extra
Ecclesiam, repetit eosdem. Deinde qui sunt intus,
cantant alios versus sequentes et qui sunt extra, ad
quoslibet duos versus respondent ' Gloria, laus,' sicut a
principle.
"Postea Sabdiaconus hastili Crucis percutit portam,
qua statim aperta, Processio intrat Ecclesiam, cantando :
'Ingrediente Domino in sanctam civitatem,' &c."
Apparently the only respect in which the old
English uses diverged from the Roman, as regards
this ceremony, was in providing a "locus eminens,"
"in altum supra ostium Ecclesigs," in which the
cantors who remained within the church were to
sing the verses of the hymn " Gloria, laus," alter-
nately with the chorus chanted by those outside the
closed door. As in this touching and dramatic
piece of ritual the material church represents the
'Ccelestis Urbs Jerusalem," the imagery of its
angelic inhabitants greeting their earthly brethren
from the ramparts, as it were, of the heavenly city
is carried out with mediaeval fidelity by the old
English rite, with its gallery over the south porch
entrance. JOHN HOBSON MATTHEWS.
Town Hall, Cardiff.
ANCIENT CFCLING (8th S. x. 373, 441; xi. 30).
—Is anything known about the wheel alluded to
in the following passage from Evelyn's 'Diary,'
4 August, 1665 ?—
" On my returne I call'd at Durdans, where I found
Dr. Wilkins, Sir Wm. Petty, and Mr. Hooke, contriving
chariots, new rigging for ships, a wheele for one to run
races in, and other mechanical inventions; perhaps
three such persons together were not to be found else-
where in Europe, for parts and ingenuity."
F. 0. BIRKBECK TERRY.
CLAREL (8th S. xi. 28).— Sir Richard Fitzwilliam
of Aldwark married Elizabeth, daughter and heiress
of Thomas Clarell of Aldwark, co. York (brother of
Margaret, wife of Sir John Fitzwilliam of Sprot-
borough), and Elizabeth, daughter and coheiress
of Sir John Scrope of Upal and Masham his wife.
Sir John Fitzwilliam of Sprotborough and Emly,
Knt., married Margaret, daughter of Thomas
Clarell of Aldwark (sister of Thomas Clarell, father
of Elizabeth, wife of Sir Richard Fitzwilliam of
Aldwark) and Matilda, daughter of Sir Nicholas
Montgomery of Cubley and Marston his wife.
JOHN RADCLIFFE.
COLBY FONT (8th S. xi. 8).— The carving pro-
bably represents not St. Giles, but the man in the
moon, a favourite mediaeval subject. See Mr.
Baring- Gould's 'Curious Myths of the Middle
Ages.' EDWARD H. MARSHALL, M.A.
Hastings.
In Husenbeth's ' Emblems of Saints/ London,
1860, there is : " St. Willibold B. 0., Woodman
before him, felling a tree. Burgraaier."
ED. MARSHALL.
CHURCH TOWER BUTTRESSES (8th S. x. 494 ;
x. 61). — Your correspondent at the first reference
wrote as if it were a peculiarly English custom
to place buttresses at the angles of towers. A
second letter this year, p. 51, I hoped would prove
the incorrectness of that letter, but its title was
misleading. I have been expecting some one of
more experience than myself to give the denial to
the clause about "English custom." I have
looked over hundreds of drawings of foreign
churches, and find the towers, if Norman or
Gothic, strengthened by pilasters or by buttresses
just as in England.
The theory propounded goes far toward sup-
posing that naves and chancels, both here and
abroad, were built with pilasters or buttresses, and
the towers very frequently not so, till the ringing
of bells necessitated the putting of such adjuncts
to the towers. There is no evidence in the
structures themselves of such a proceeding ; if
additional buttresses have been used in a church,
they can be found alike in chancels, naves, aisles,
and towers, just where circumstances demand
their addition. HERBERT HURST.
6, Tackley Place, Oxford.
These peculiarly English abominations, which
give the tower the air, as Ruskin says, of a " child
held up in the nurse's arms," instead of a giant
standing alone, seem to have originated in the
belfry of Salisbury, whose stone part was only
about 75 ft. high, with twelve huge buttresses
occupying more ground than the walls themselves.
There was also a central pillar to carry the bell-
frames, which were in the wooden structure, above
all the stonework. Sir Christopher Wren avoided
buttresses in his towers at Westminster Abbey,
and all his other towers, classic or Gothic, I think,
where they were not mere repairs of old ones.
E. L. GARBETT.
LADY ALMERIA CARPENTER (8th S. x. 517;
xi. 56). — Lady Almeria Carpenter's connexion
8. XI. FEB. 13, '97.]
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137
with the Packes was through her mother's family,
the Cliffcons. Her great - great - uncle Robert
Clifton married a Packe. Robert Clifton's grand-
daughter Catherine married Charles Packe, of
Prestwold. Also Jane Clifton married Christo-
pher Packe, of Coates in Leicestershire.
H. S. V. W.
BIRCHIN LANE (8th S. x. 153, 221).— It may
perhaps be useful, in connexion with the interest-
ing discussion as to the origin of this name, to put
on record the following early spellings of the name
given in Dr. Sharpe's ' Wills, Court of Husting,'
1889-90 :—
Berchervereslane, 1260, will of Thomas Travers.
Bercherverelane, 1285, will of William Kelwedon.
Berchernerelane, 1320, will of Robert Motun.
Bercherverelane, 1326, will of Stephen ate
Holte.
Berchereslane, 1332, will of Henry de Gloucestre,
goldsmith.
Bercherverlane, 1348/9, will of Stephen atte
Holte.
Berchervereslane, 1349, will of William de
Tanrugge.
Bercheverlane, 1349, will of Robert de Hole-
welle.
Berchevereslane, 1358, will of John de Drayton.
Bercherlane, 1372, will of Thomas Mokkyngge.
Birchenlane, 1386, will of William Fryth.
Byrcherslane, 1400, will of Robert Louthe.
Birchenlane, 1413, will of John More.
Birchenlane, 1445, will of Ralph Stoke,
From this date the spelling remains fixed as
Birchin, Birchen, Byrchen, &c.
CHAS. JAS. F&RET.
49, Edith Road, W. Kensington, W.
THE ROYAL COLLEGES (8"> S. xi. 68).— It is
most likely that colleges in the universities are
not included, otherwise the number would be much
larger. The Act of Uniformity, 14 Charles II.,
applies to " the Colleges of Westminster, Win-
chester, and Eton," but in the orders about the
State services the Queen is made to speak only
of "our colleges of Eton and Winchester." In
the Commonwealth period the Committee for the
King's Revenue counted Westminster, Eton,
Christ Church, and Winchester as within their
scope. In 1643 and 1649 orders were made touch-
ing " Westminster, Eton, Winchester," and " Eton,
Winchester, Westminster" (Barker, 'Life of
Busby,' 1895, pp. 4-14). It is not clear why
Winchester is reckoned a royal college.
W. C. B.
There can be no reasonable doubt that, so far as
the Election dinner is concerned, the three royal
colleges are Trinity, Christ Church, and Westmin-
ster. In College Hall, where the dinner takes
place, the arms of these three colleges are displayed
oa the wall above the dais. They were associated
together by the founders in the constitution of the
School, and the Dean of Christ Church and the
Master of Trinity remain " Electors " to this day.
G. F. R. B.
At Cambridge, Trinity, King's, and Eton are
reckoned as such. A. T. SPANTON.
Trinity College, Cambridge.
Dean Stanley writes : —
" The collegiate character of the institution was still
further kept up by the close connexion which Elizabeth
fostered between the College of Westminster and the two
great collegiate houses of Christ Church and Trinity,
founded or refounded by her father, at Oxford and
Cambridge. Together they formed ' the three Royal
Colleges.' " — ' Memorials of Westminster Abbey,' p. 419.
EDWARD H. MARSHALL, M.A.
Hastings.
VERQILIUS (8th S. xi. 9).— The following ex-
tract from Hofman's * Lex. Univ./ s. v. "Anti-
podes," supplies the information in brief : —
" Subtilis et diversa apud veteres fuit disquisitio
Fuere vero nonnulli, qui credebant fabulosa ease omnia
quae de Antipodibus referuntur Praecipue vero
Christian!. Vide Lactantium, iii. 24, Augustinum 'de
Civ. Dei,' xvi. 9. Bonifacius inprimis, Episcopus
Moguntinus, qui sic ratiocinatus est : ' Si essent Anti-
podes, alii homines, adeoque alius Christus introducere-
tur,' Nancel., c. 1., et Aventinus ' Annal. Bojor.,' 1. iii. Cui
cum Virgilius, sanctimonia et eruditione Celebris in
Bavaria episcopua, adversaretur, Bonifacius apud
Zachariam pontificem tantum effecit, ut ille ad Utilonem,
Bavariae R. literis missis Virgilium Episcopali sede eji-
ceret. Zacharise ad Bonifacium Rescriptum babes in
Marci Antonii de Dominis, 1. vii. de ' Rep. Christ.,' c. v.
num. xlviii. Ac Libertus Fromondus quidem in ' Ant-
Aristarcho ' historiam hanc longe aliter, quam hactenus
relata fuit explicare conatus est ; habet tamen eandem
Claud. Faucherus, * Historicus Gallus,' torn. i. fin."
Zachary was Pope A.D. 741-752 ; Virgilius, an
Irishman of a noble family, died Bishop of Salz-
burg, A.D. 784. ED. MARSHALL.
According to Bouillet, Vergilius, who was of a
noble Irish family, was censured by Pope Zacharius
for teaching that beneath the earth there are
another world, other men, another sun, and
another moon. That he rejected the opinion that
the earth was a plane appears to be a mis-
apprehension. Summoned to Rome, he retracted
his teaching, and was shortly afterwards con-
secrated Bishop of Salzburg. He established the
faith in Carinthia, and died in 784. Gregory IX.
canonized him. He is honoured on 27 November
HENRY ATTWBLL.
Barnes.
ME. HYDE will find information concerning this
bishop, saint (d. 780 ?), and Irish missionary to the
"rude Karinthian Boor," who was canonized in
1234, five centuries after his decease, in Pertz,
* Monum. Germ, Hist.,' xi. 84-6 ; Mabiilon,
' Acta Ss. Bened.,' iii. 2, 308 ; Raderus, ' Bavar.
Sancta,' i. 129-32 ; Pagi, ' Grit. Annal. Baronii,1
138
NOTES AND QUERIES.
. XL ^3.13/97
1689, 746, 6-7, 748, 1-2, and 780, 10 ; and Bar-
tbe'lemy (Cb.), ' Erreurs Historiques,' 1875, i.
269-86. His opinions concerning the Antipodes
seem to have attracted some attention at head-
quarters in the days of Pope Zachary, suppressor of
angel worship. Perhaps it is necessary to mention
that he should not be confused with the fantastical
grammarian Vergilius Maro, of the previous cen-
tury, whom Clement of Ireland seriously quotes.
ST. CLAIR BADDELEY.
WATERSPOUT AND WHIRLWIND (8tb S. xi. 47).
—The reason why the Russian peasant hurls his
hatchet at the whirlwind is because iron is sup-
posed to be a protection against spirits. In Lane's
4 Arabian Nights ' we read that a pillar of sand in
the desert is thought to be an evil Jinnee, and that
the Arabs cry to it, " Iron ! iron ! " because they
believe the Jinn to have a great dread of that
metal. The Irish peasantry believe whirlwinds of
dust to be raised by the fairies. Iron is supposed
to be a protection against the fairies. See Keight-
ley's ' Fairy Mythology.' E. YARDLEY.
In Southey's ' Commonplace Book,' edited by
John Webb Warter, B.D. (1849), MR- BADDELEY
will find, at p. 380, an interesting note on * Water-
spouts.' Southey's extract is from Thevenot, and
contains an account of a curious superstition, which
will no doubt interest MR. BADDELEY.
0. P. HALE.
INCREASE IN HUMAN BULK (8th S. x. 395). —
With reference to this query I find the following
in * Athletic Sports of Scotland,' by W. M. Smith,
1891, p. 15 :—
" When preparations were being made for the great
Eglinton tournament in 1839, one of the difficulties to
be surmounted was to find armour large enough for the
degenerate descendants of the great heroes of the Middle
Ages."
Then follow several pages showing that the pre-
sent race is stronger, bigger, and able to perform
greater feats than the most renowned of ancient or
mediaeval days. KALPH THOMAS.
The late Prof. Richard Partridge, F.R.S., in his
annual winter session's course of lectures on
anatomy at King's College, London, was wont to
refer to the difficulty experienced in fitting the
jousters at the Eglinton tournament with ancient
armour, in proof that the men of the age of chivalry
were wiry, and not brawny men, and that human
bulk had increased in modern times.
THOMAS J. JEAKES.
' COME, LET us BE MERRY " (8th S. x. 456, 500).
— Was Mr. Pecksniff thinking of this part-song
when, on the night of welcoming Martin Chuzzle-
wit the younger to his home as a pupil, he
exclaimed, " Let us be merry," and accompanied
the convivial ejaculation by taking "a captain's
biscuit"? A, F. R.
NOTES ON BOOKS, &c.
The Place Names of Fife and Kinross. By W. J. N.
Liddall. (Edinburgh, Green & Sons.)
A TOPOGRAPHER who sets himself to elucidate the place-
names of a well-defined locality, with which he is per-
sonally acquainted, and the natural features of which he
bus studied, is likely to arrive at more correct results
than one who tries to cover a wider field where he does
not enjoy the same advantages. Mr. Liddall has selected
one definite district, and devotes this thin volume to the
explanation of its nomenclature, which he finds to be of
distinctly Goidelic origin, having affinities with the Irish
branch of the Celtic family rather than with the Welsh.
We know that the Scoti were originally Irish, and Fife,
so far as its place-names are concerned, may almost be
regarded as belonging to ancient Ireland, since, as a
rule, they exhibit a more archaic type than Irish names,
as having been petrified or stereotyped at an earlier
period, through the dying out of the spoken dialect.
We should have expected that the author, when once he
recognized this affinity, would constantly have consulted
Dr. Joyce's standard work on the 'Irish Names of
Places ' (two series) ; but, strange to say, we fail to find
a single reference to that valuable treatise. Mr. Liddall
thus places himself at an unnecessary disadvantage, and
many points remain obscure which might have been
made plain. The element bolg, e.g., in Blebo (Blath-
bolg), Bogie (Bolgyne), and Dunbog (Dunbolg), which
baffles his investigation, he would have found explained
by Dr. Joyce as bolg, a bellow?, often used as indicative
of a gusty or windy locality (Second Series, p. 242). Not
unfrequently Mr. Liddall in his interpretation of names
is at variance with his brother Scots, Sir H. Maxwell
(' Scottish Land-Names,' 1894), and Mr. J. B. Johnston
(Place-Names of Scotland,' 1892), to neither of whom
does he vouchsafe an allusion. They, e.g., understand
Anstruther to be Gael, an sruthair, "the stream,"
whereas be, with less probability, takes it to be Tout.
andar, other, and sruthair. Cameron, which they
explain as cam sron, " crooked nose," he, misled, appa-
rently, by the by-form Camberone, interprets as cam,
beam, "crooked gap." Curiously enough, Kinross,
though appearing in the title, is omitted from the body of
the book, where it should find a place, meaning " head
of the promontory (ceann ros). We are glad to note that
the all-importance of the historical method is recognized,
and that in many instances the early forms of the names
are given, though further research would have supplied
many more of these. Of the Gaelic etymons suggested
a large number are confessedly conjectural, and some
(e. g., Cornceres and Goatmilk) are far from convincing.
A wide gap seems to separate Nakedfield from Cnoc-
tarbh (Knock-tarf), which Mr. Liddall has the courage
to identify. On the other hand, the connexion which
he proposes between Poffle and bachille, a farm, finds
some support in the similar relationship existing between
baffle and Scot, bauchle. " Bleau," in the list of autho-
rities is a misprint for Blaeu, and " Fib " (s.v. "Fife ")
would be better printed Fibh.
The Antiquary. Vol. XXXII. (Stock.)
WE have received the volume of the Antiquary for last
year, and find it remarkably good. We do not call
to mind any other antiquarian magazine that has im-
proved so much of late. One of the most interesting
features of the volume is ' The Account-Book of William
Wray,' contributed by the Rev. J. T. Fowler, and em-
bellished with many learned notes and explanations of
I passages which are not likely to be understood. The
8* S. XI. FEE, 13, '97.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
139
original manuscript belongs to the Dean and Chapter of
Ripon, and Wray was a draper, farmer, and haberdasher
there during a portion of the sixteenth century. These
accounts throw great light upon the daily life of the
period by illustrating the kind of materials that a shop-
keeper of good position then dealt in. They would,
however, be well-nigh incomprehensible to most readers
were it not for the erudite notes ; and we trust that
Dr. Fowler will see his way to reprinting the whole,
diary and notes, separately. It is impossible to specify
in the space at our disposal all the features of this well-
edited magazine ; but we feel obliged to draw attention
to the illustrations, which are far above the average of
those ordinarily to be met with, and we are glad to find
that sufficient interest is taken in the subjects here dealt
with to justify the issue of a monthly magazine devoted
to the study of the past. Magazines that are published
quarterly do not keep up the interest of their readers in
what is passing in the antiquarian world in the same
manner that a monthly publication does.
The Reliquary. January, 1897. (Bemrose & Sons.)
THIS number of the Reliquary is of more general
interest to a wide circle of readers than the magazine
has been of late. We must, however, say that we think
valuable space is wasted by giving a reproduction of the
Devil at Notre Dame. We are quite aware of its great
interest, and the illustration here given is very good;
but we think that in a magazine of the nature of the
Reliquary it would be wiser to give representations
of less well-known objects. Mr. Edward Lovett contri-
butes a most interesting paper upon ' Hop Tallies.' We
were not aware that in this branch of agriculture the use
of the tally still remained, and Mr. Lovett tells us that it
is rapidly dying out even in it, Worcestershire being
the county in which this method of keeping accounts is
the most frequently to be met with. The article is
illustrated with some very clear representations of
tallies. ' The Graves of Ardkeiling,' by Mr. Young,
gives an account of the contents of several grave mounds
in Moray, and should be read by all those who are in-
terested in the Stone Period, and from the discoveries here
made it appears probable, as Mr. Young points out, that
in this part of Scotland the Stone Age and the Iron Age
mingled, without an interval during which bronze
weapons and ornaments were used. It would be of great
interest if this point could be definitely settled ; but we
think it seems probable that in the North of Scotland
there was no intermediate period. There are several
other articles, all of more or less value, and we consider
that the Reliquary has given us a very good number at
the beginning of 1897.
THE Journal of ike Ex-Libris Society, edited by Mr.
W. H. K. Wright, supplies index, title-page, &c., to
vol. vi. The editor deals with the recent sale of book-
plates, which he holds does not justify the anticipations
formed concerning it, the prices realized being far above
market value, and the lots going mostly into the hands
of dealers. Among the illustrations are the book-plate
of Cardinal York, with the royal arms of England, and
the pretty piscatorial plate of F. Gosden.
IN the Fortnightly Mr. Louis Garvin writes on
1 Coventry Patmore : the Praise of the Odes.' Very
warm is the praise bestowed. Mr. Garvin is of the
"heterodox minority" which, maintaining Mr. Patmore's
greatness, believes his " 'St. Valentine's Day ' to be not
unworthy of comparison with the ' Ode to the Nightin-
gale ' in Keats and with Shelley's 'Skylark." The
extracts he supplies fail to carry conviction to ourselves,
who claim in this regard a respectable amount of catho
tion to form a fairer opinion. In ' The Child in Recent
English Literature ' Prof. Sully draws attention, among
other works, to ' The Golden Age ' of Mr. Kenneth
Grahame, a work for which we have unbounded admira-
tion. The principal subject of his comments is 'The
Children,' by Mrs. Meynell, from which he quotes some
delightful instances of child speech, objecting only to
the comment. The treatment approaches the scientific
in eome respects, but the general tone is amusing. Mr.
W. S. Lilly contributes a lecture on ' The Mission of
Tennyson,' delivered at the London Institution. It is
good in its way. Lectures should, however, be corrected
before they are printed. Mr. Lilly may, perhaps, in
speaking of Wordsworth, talk of " depths of desultory
drivel " ; he should not, however, print such word?,
even with the comment, " I had almost said." Another
reprinted lecture is that of the Right Hon. Max Miiller
on ' How to Work.' ' The Girlhood of Maria Josepha
Holroyd' deal?, of course, with the correspondent of
Gibbon. Mr. Grant Allen writes on 'Spencer and Dar-
win,' and Mr. Wells on 'Morals and Civilization.' —
Prof. Courthope continues, in the Nineteenth Century,
his lectures, delivered in Oxford, on 'Life in Poetry,'
dealing in the present paper with " Poetical Expression."
What is said concerning metre is worthy of attention,
though not always convincing. Here, for instance, is a
theory which we leave to work out its effect. The pro-
fessor holds that " though metre can only properly be
used for the expression of universal ideas, there is in
modern society an eccentric or monastic principle at
work which leads men to pervert metre into a luxurious
instrument for the expression of merely private ideas."
Mr. Herbert Paul supplies an analysis of ' Gibbon's Life
and Letters,' recently reviewed in our columng, and
expresses an opinion concerning the editorial proceed-
ings of the first Lord Sheffield more favourable than we
find ourselves able to hold. A curious paper, the like
of which we do not recall, is that of Mr. Davidson
Palmer upon ' The True Nature of " Falsetto." ' « Timber
Creeping in the Carpathians' is an article that may
beget as much pleasure in some minds as it inspires
aversion in ours. Mr. J. Horace Round communicates
some striking opinions on what he calls ' The Elizabethan
Religion.' To deal with these would be, however, to
enter the domain of controversy. — To the New Review
Mr. Charles Whibley contributes one of the quaint,
piquant sketches he is accustomed to send of eccentrics.
His present subject is 'Barbey d'Aurevilly/ whom he
describes as " a mediaeval knight driven by a destiny
hapless for himself, thrice blessed for us, into the literary
life of the nineteenth century." Sufficiently striking ia
the picture drawn of this most combative of writers.
Students of anthropology may be glad to have their
attention drawn to Mr. Frederick Boyle's 'Contemporary
Human Gods,' a good many of whom he describes. His
paper throws much light upon the continued worship of
the harvest deity, and may be studied by the light of the
opening chapters of Frazer's 'Golden Bough.' Count
Liitzow writes on 'Ancient Bohemian Poetry,' and
translates many curious specimens. As in the case of
the works of Ossian, the genuineness of these early poems
has been, and still is, keenly disputed. On this point
the Count expresses no opinion. — The Century opens
with portraits of ' Lincoln as [a] Lawyer ' and ' Grant as
[a] Major-General.' Both portraits are eminently Ame-
rican and characteristic. General Horace Porter's 'Cam-
paigning with Grant ' remains what may be called the
chief item in the feast. ' Places in New York ' supplies
some brilliant representations of scenes, characters, and
faces in that city. Capt. Mahan sends an elaborate
account of 'The Battle of Copenhagen,' and Mr. Kelly
ii\j victim in tiiin J u^icV'i v.i c* i copcu tauic muvuuv v» v»«ii/i-»v- aww«*t«« vm j.*i»- «^ •*•««« \^* v^wj^wmjAiw^vij/j
licity. We hope before long to put ourselves in the posi- 1 some pictures of ' In the Desert with.
140
NOTES AND QUERIES.
s. xi. FEB. 13/97.
Some recollections of Samuel Lover, by his daughter,
may be read with much interest. 'A Tropic Climb,' by
Mr. Julian Hawthorne, and Mr. Coffin's ' Monotypes ' are
contributions to which we gladly draw attention.— A
description, in Scribner's, of ' A Great Hotel,' with its
profuse illustrations, conveys an impressive idea of the
immense life, like that of a swarming ant-hill, that goes
on in such places. It is, naturally, an American hotel
that is depicted. In these days, however, London can
probably supply institutions no less huge. A short but
pleasant paper on ' London Streets' is, we hope, to be con-
tinued. ' The City Magistrates' Courts ' shows how closely
life in New York resembles that in London. ' The Minia-
ture Portrait ' has some delightful reproductions. ' The
Last of the Plantagenets ' deals, of course, with Richard
Crookback, whose defence is to some extent attempted. —
The more serious among the contents of the Pall Mall
include ' The Representative of Bernadotte,' dealing with
the difficulties environing the position of the present
King of Sweden; 'The Story of 1812,' an historical
sketch of great value, by Col. Hutchinson, which,
happily, is to be continued ; and an excellent and admir-
ably illustrated account of 'Chatsworth,' by the Rev.
A. H. Malan. There is also a good account, illustrated
from photographs, of ' L'Ecole de Saint Cyr.' A fine
engraving of A. Morton's ' Cruel Sea ' serves as frontis-
piece.—JlfacwuWan's has two contributions upon books,
the more important being an interesting account of ' The
Coldstream Guards'; the second, 'From Far Cathay,'
dealing with Hugh Clifford's 'East Coast Etchings,'
Singapore, 1896. ' Vanishing Paris ' echoes an old wail.
Of ' The Flying Bishops,' which is not at all in our line,
we may say that it is screamingly funny.— Temple Bar
gives a good paper on ' Thomas Hood,' partly biographical
and partly critical. A personal experience of ' A Hurri-
cane in Mauritius' is a telling sketch of tropical life.
'Swaledale,' according to a description now sent, has
altered a little since we knew it half a century ago.
There was more life then than now seems to exist. We
have seen rustic dances under Richmond Castle. * Gold-
smith's Country ' may be read with pleasure. — In the
Cornhill General Maurice tells correctly the stirring and
noble story of ' The Loss of the Birkenhead.' The second
part of ' Duels of all Nations ' deals with duelling in the
United States. It gives some good and some grim stories.
Mrs. Murray Smith sends a suggestive contribution on
'Two Centuries of National Monuments.' A stirring
account is Mr. Gwynn's of ' The Youth of the Napiers.'
In a lighter vein is 'A Serious View of Love.' — Mr.
E. H. Parker describes, in the Gentleman's, ' The Em-
peror of Annam and his Capital.' The Rev. P. H. Ditch-
field writes on ' Women as Book-Lovers,' and Mr. Percy
Fitzgerald on ' Pickwickiana.' — The English Illustrated
is principally fiction. Mr. Clark Russell continues, how-
ever, his account of Nelson, and we have ' A Pilgrimage
to Byron's Land,' ' Some Newgate Episodes,' with quaint
designs, and ' Advance Australia.' — Mr. Andrew Lang is
once more at his best in Longman's, the contents of
which are agreeably varied, A. K. H. B. writing on
' Archbishop Magee of York,' and Mr. Pardepp giving
4 Pages from the Diary of Parson Parlett.' — Chapman's
is wholly occupied by the serial story and by an account
of 'Captain Kid's Millions.' — Belgravia, describes 'A
Month in the Latin Quarter.'
CASSELL'S Gazetteer, Part XLL, extends to Notting-
ham, giving a good view of its celebrated market-place.
Norwich Cathedral is also depicted, as are Newlyn,
Newmarket, and other spots of interest.
WE have received No. 1 of Z' Archaeologia de Paris
(Greville), a monthly work likely to be of great interest
to antiquaries.
WE hear with regret of the death, on the 5th inst., in
his eighty-ninth year, of Mr. Hugh Owen, a well-known
Fellow of the Society of Antiquaries, and a not very
frequent contributor to our columns.
OOR readers may be interested to know that the indis-
creet and ill-natured work of Mr. W. C. Hazlitt, in con-
demnation of which we wrote ante, p. 118, has been
withdrawn by Mr. George Redway, the publisher.
VOL. III. of "The Centenary Burns," edited by
Messrs. Henley and Henderson, will be published imme-
diately. The notes, extending to over two hundred
pages, will contain much novel information about the
origin of Burns's songs, from authentic and hitherto
unknown MSS. (in the possession of the Earl of Rosebery,
the Earl of Crawford and Balcarres, and others), and
various important sources wholly unutilized by earlier
editors.
THE travels and explorations of the early French
Jesuit missionaries among the Indians of North America
are recorded in reports, documentp, letters, and rare
books, chiefly found in the libraries and monasteries of
Canada and the United States. The narratives have
been collected and edited by Reuben G. Thwaites, and
will be published in England by Mr. Elliot Stock and
in the United States by Messrs. Barrows & Co., under
the title ' Jesuit Relations and Allied Documents.' The
work, which will contain information concerning the
ethnology, geography, customs, folk-lore, and natural
history of the country in the seventeenth century, will
consist of fifty or more 8vo. volumes. It will present
the text of the original documents as well as the English
translation, and will be copiously illustrated by portraits,
maps, facsimiles, &c.
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LOXDON, SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 20, 1897.
CONTENT S.— N° 269.
NOTES :— Salmon Fishing, 141 — Latin Litany, 142 — The
Caul, 144— Arbitration— The Juxon Medal — Midsummer
Fires in Scotland— 'The Ship of Fools,' 145— Pearls— "All
my eye and Peggy Martin"— The Longest Reign— Chloro-
form, 146.
QUERIES :— St. John Baptist's Abbey, Colchester— Capel-
lanus— Rowen — ' Middlemarch '— George Herbert— Arms —
Sir G. Page— Bridge, 147 — Haddon Hall — Hole House—
Bardsleys — Steam — Hughes of Trostrey — R. Perreau —
Joseph Neeld— Jessamy — Horfield — England, the Virgin
Mary's Dower, 148—' Menestho's Daughters ' — Keck Family
—Baptisteries— Abergaveuny Parish Registers — Hymn—
" Horse sense," 149.
REPLIES:— The Particle "With," 149 — Chinese Playing
Cards— Hayne— Early Steam Navigation— Pope's Epitaph
on Mrs. Corbet, 150—" Di bon ! "—Prime Minister— Meth-
ley_Dr. Radcliffe, 151 — "Vivit post funera virtus"—
Episcopal Deans — " Gnoffe" — Arms, 152— Jeanne d'Arc —
Evening Services in Westminster Abbey — "Born days" —
Foubert's Riding Academy, 153 — "Rigmarole" — Early
Mentions of Lift, 154— Shelta, 155-Sir W. Grant— Hert-
ford Street, Mayfair — Heraldic Supporters — The Gros-
venor, East Indiaman — Quotation of Dickens's — Shrine of
St. Cuthbert, 156— Portrait of Lady Nelson— Wayzgoose—
"Non sine pulvere" — Clementina J. S. Douglass, 157 —
" She "—Holy Water— Moses Horton, 158.
NOTES ON BOOKS .— Shelton's ' Don Quixote '—Maxwell's
' Dumfries and Galloway' — Bax's 'Cathedral Church of
St. Asaph'— 'Quarterly''— 'Edinburgh'— 'English His-
torical Review.'
Notices to Correspondents.
gftitf*
SALMON FISHING ON THE RIVER EARN.
Considerable dissatisfaction has for some years
existed in regard to a dam dyke across the river
Earn, with cruives therein for taking salmon, erected
near Dupplin. The proprietors on the upper reaches
of the river complain that the effect of this dyke is
to prevent the fish going up, and thus injurious to
their rights of property. Remonstrances by public
bodies and private proprietors have been made,
but the dyke remains.
In introducing the subject, I wish to draw atten-
tion to the fact that the alleged grievance is not
of modern origin, but of very ancient date. The
predecessor of the present proprietor of Dupplin
and Aberdalgie estate was Lord Oliphant of Gask
and Aberdalgie, the Glenvarloch of the novelist.
Ou 7 Aug., 1610, a complaint was made to the
Privy Council by John, Earl of Montrose, John,
Earl of Tullibardin, and Sir James Cunynghame,
of Gleugarnock, setting forth that divers Acts of
the Scottish Parliament were passed, ordaining all
cruives or dams made in fresh water for rivers that
are " corst or set within the flood mark " to be
destroyed, as tending to the destruction of sniolts
and fry of salmon fish (1581, ch. xv.) ; and the late
Laurence, Lord Oliphant, first in 1566, and again
in 1583, having set up certain cruives and dams
on the water of the Erne, be-east the coble of
Forteviot— to the "grite spoyll" of all kinds of
fish in the said water — charges had been given to
the Sheriff of Perth, in both those years, to cast
down the said dams. The said charges having been
executed, and Lord Oliphant having duly obeyed
the same, there had been no violation of the said
Act on the said water till lately, when Laurence,
now Lord Oliphant, had resolved to set up a new
dam on the said water between the complaiuers
and the water mouth, and so not only to spoil
them of their fishing in the said water, wherein
they are heritably infeft, but also to destroy the
whole fish, young and old, within the said water,
thereby making the said river, which was " verie
ritche and plentifull of fischeis," to become " alto-
gidder barren and void of fischeis, to the grite hurte
of the commonwele." Lord Oliphant appearing,
and the Earl of Tullibardin, but neither of the
other complainers, the lords, in regard that the
decision of this matter will depend on the heritable
right claimed by the defender to the erecting of a
dam of the said water, continue the case till
15 March next, and, meanwhile, discharge the
defender from setting up any dams, cruives, or
yairs on the said water.
On 10 Aug., 1610, Lord Erskine became bound
by Act of Caution for John, Earl of Tullibardin,
in 3,000 merks, and for William, Master of Tulli-
bardin, in 2,000 merks, not to harm Laurence,
Lord Oliphant,
On 1 Aug., 1611, a complaint was made to the
Privy Council by Laurence, Lord Oliphant, and
Sir Thomas Hammiitoun of Bynnie, for His
Majesty's interest as follows. Lord Oliphant,
having resolved to build a mill on his lands of
Dipline, " first causit cast the lead and wattergang
for the said mylne and biggit ane dam, weill and
substantiouslie gairdit with fourty tua cupplis of
aik," for holding in the water of the mill, and ex-
pected to have finished the work without any
trouble, " now in this tyme of universall obedience
and quietness under his Majesteis most happie and
blissit governament." But, in July then last, Wil-
liam, Master of Tullibardin, Sheriff of Perth, Sir
Mungo and Robert Murrayis, sons of Johune, Earl
of Tullibardin, with others to the number of 100
horsemen and 300 footmen, of whom many were
the said earl's men, and the rest broken High-
landers, including fugitives of the Clan Gregour,
armed with bows, habershons, targs, pole-axes, two-
handed swords, and with hagbuts, and pistolets,
came about 3 o'clock in the morning to the said
dam and destroyed it, cutting with axes his whole
forty-two cupples of oak with twelve other pieces
of " grite treis " lying beside the dam. Charge had
been given to the defenders, including the said earl,
to answer, and now pursuers appearing personally,
and the Earl and Master of Tullibardine being
present for themselves, and the other defenders
being also present, the lords find the convocation
of the lieges in arms and with hagbuts and pistolets,
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«nd the destroying of the dam and cutting of the
cupples and timber thereof, to be clearly proved
against the said master, and that it was done
with the foreknowledge of the earl, and therefore
ordain both to enter in ward in the castle of Edin-
burgh ; but they assoilzie the defenders from
having some of the Clan Gregour in the company
at the time libelled.
Oa 16 Aug., 1611, Sir Thomas Hammiltoun of
Bynnie, for His Majesty's interest, and John, Earl
of Tullibardin, as landlord to Thomas Mitchell and
Johne McEwne, his tenants, complained that on
15 July last Laurence, Lord Oliphant, accompanied
by a number of his men, all armed with certain
weapons and with hagbuts and pistolets, set upon
the said tenants in the highway at Dalcharrocbie,
wounded them, and then led them as prisoners to
the place of Duplene, where he would have hanged
them but for the "grite entreatie" of Sir John
Lindsay, fiar of Kynfawnis. Lord Oliphant then
cast them in the " pit and thevis hole n of Dipline,
and detained them there divers days and nights
without meat, drink, or other necessaries. After
nine days he brought them " fetterit and bundin
thair handis behind thair back to Edinburgh." All
this the said tenants being free subjects j taken for
no recent crime, and the defender having no power
over them. Both parties appearing, the lords find
that Oliphant has violated the laws in so far as he
had pistolets in his company the time libelled, and
therefore ordain him to keep ward in the burgh of
Edinburgh till relieved. His defence for taking and
warding the said tenants having been that, fore-
gathering with the said tenants and with Symone
Loutfute and Robert Quhite, and seeing hagbuts
and pistolets in their company, he had apprehended
Mitchell and McEwne and committed them to
ward, as required by Act of Parliament made in
1597. The lords, having considered this defence,
assoilzie Lord Oliphant from all pain for his taking
of the said tenants. A further complaint was
lodged for the Earl of Tullibardin by Sir Thomas
Hamilton for His Majesty's interest, setting forth
that the barony of Gask, with the right of fishing
on the water of Erne from the mouth thereof on
both sides up to the said barony, belonging to the
said earl heritably, he and his predecessors past
memory of man had been in the peaceable posses-
sion thereof, the late Laurence, Lord Oliphant,
goodsire of the present Lord Oliphant, having been
discharged by the ordinary courts of justice, first
in the time of Queen Mary and since then in His
Majesty's own time, from erecting dams on the
said water, that matters have rested now for thirty
years. Lately, however, Laurence, the present
Lord Oliphant, had resolved to renew his grand-
father's attempt to erect dams on the said water ;
and the Lords of Secret Council having discharged
him from building his dam till the question between
him and the said earl had been decided by the
ordinary judge, the said lord, impatient of having
to prosecute his right according to law, had re-
solved by strong hand to build a dam on the said
water, and with " grite diligence pat the same up."
Knowing the said earl was thereby " bavelie pre-
judgeit in his right/' and that it was, therefore,
necessary that the work should be prosecuted with
force, he and certain of his servants, viz., Niniane
Oliphant, Johnne New, Henry Oliphant, Johnne
Miller, Richard Dae, Johnne Duncane, William
Keir, Thomas Feinzies, Thomas Sword, and Wil-
liam Baxter, had, on the fields of Dupline and at
the mill from 11 to 15 July last, borne hagbuts
and pistolets, ridden " athorte the cuntrey " there-
with, and to the " forder contempt of law brought
certain hagbuts of found to Lord Oliphant's work
at Dupline, plantit the same in a little house neir
by, maid murdreis hoillis within the same house of
purpois to schote and slane all such personis as
sould have interruptit the said worke." Both parties
appearing, the lords assoilzie the defender from the
charge of having had hagbuts and pistolets in his
company, and remit the matter of the dam to be
pursued before the judge competent.
On 24 Feb., 1612, the Lords of Privy Council,
who had been nominated by John. Earl of Tulli-
bardin, and William, Master of Tullibardine, and
by Laurence, Lord Oliphant, on the other side,
for settling the dispute, remitted it to the Lords of
Council and Session, and in the mean time ordained
the parties to suffer the dams to rest as they were
till decree be given in the case.
We do not know the ultimate result of the con-
tention between the parties. The extracts above
given from the Privy Council Records should
prove interesting at the present time, when the
question as to the obstruction of the salmon fishing
on the Earn is again raised. They are also curious
as giving a graphic account of the manner in which
great proprietors at the time endeavoured to assert
their rights. A. G. REID.
Auchterarder.
THE LATIN LITANY RECITED AT THE
OPENING OP CONVOCATION.
As an almost necessary sequel to my paper on
the translations of the Book of Common Prayer
into the Latin language (ante, p. 101), it may be
well to add a further note upon the Latin Litany
recited at the opening of Convocation. I possess
four modern editions: those of 1826, 1847, 1869,
and 1880. These all have the following title-
page :—
" Forma Precum in utraque Domo Convocations, give
Synodi Praelatorum et caeteri Cleri, seu Provincialis seu
Nation alis, in ipso statim cujuslibet Sessionis Initio
solenniter recitanda."
Then follow two texts: " Adjutorium nostrum"
(Ps. cxxiv. 8) and "Ubi duo vel tres" (St.
Matthew xviii. 20).
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
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The form contains the Litany, to which are
added the prayers "Tempore Belli ac Tumultuum,"
" Oratio pro Suprema Curia Parliament!," "Oratio
pro prsesente Convocatione sive Synodo," and five
collects, namely, those for SS. Simon and Jude,
Good Friday (the second collect), St. Peter's Day
(with the variation of "Sanctis Apostolis Tuis"
instead of "Thy Apostle St. Peter"), Fifth
Sunday after Trinity, and the Prayer for Unity
from the Office for the Accession. On the last leaf
is added the " Benedictio," which, however, does
not appear in the editions of 1826, 1847, or 1869.
I ought also to mention a modern edition of this
Litany with music : —
" Litania seu Supplicatio Generalis numeris musicie
aptata ad usum Ecclesias Cathedralis S. Pauli Londinen-
eis ex opera Johannis Stainer, A.M., Mus.Doc., et
Gulielmi Russell, A.M., Mua.B."
This edition is not dated, but it was first issued
in 1888, and is published by Messrs. Novello,
Ewer & Co.
I have expended a good deal of labour lately in
the endeavour to ascertain the exact date at which
the Convocation Litany was first printed, and to
determine to whom the translation is to be assigned.
I think that I have been able to settle the first
point but the second is at present uncertain. I
may say at once that I shall be grateful to any one
who may be able to decide this question for me.
In the Lambeth Library, the natural home for
such a book, the earliest edition is that of 1689,
printed " Londini, Typis Car. Bill & Tho. New-
comb, Kegise Majestatis Typogr. M.DC.LXXXIX."
There is a copy of this edition in the British
Museum (press-mark 3406, c. 31), where are also
to be seen editions printed in 1700, 1702, 1741,
1747, 1807, 1833, 1837, and 1847, together with an
edition printed in Dublin in 1704, adapted to the
circumstances of the Irish Church (press-mark
3407, c. 29).
I am disposed to think that the edition of 1689
is the first issue of the * Forma Precum.' Lath-
bury, in bis * History of the Convocation of the
Church of England' (second edition, note top. 325),
pays only that " in 1689 the form of prayer used in
Convocation was printed by the royal printer " ;
but he does not say, though probably he implies,
that it was so printed for the first time.
It seems highly probable that the translation
was executed by some member or members of the
Convocation which assembled on 21 November,
and which, after several prorogations, was dissolved
with the Parliament soon after 24 January next
ensuing (Lathbury, ib., p. 325 and p. 332).
Mr. Cardwell, in his * History of Conferences,'
p. 433, gives an account of " the particular Acts
and adjournments of the Convocation from 4 De-
cember, 1689," commencing with the words : —
' The Litany was read by a bishop for some days in
Latin, there being only this supplication added after the
prayers for the bishops : ' That it may please Thee to
inspire with Thy Holy Spirit this Convocation, and to
preside over it, to lead us into all truth which is accord-
ing to godliness.' '
He proceeds to supply a translation of the
prayers for Parliament and for the Convocation as
they stand in the edition of 1689, and he adds a
nominal list of the members of that particular
Convocation.
In the Convocation of 1664, Sessio cxxv.,
" Die Mercurii 18 Maii, inter horas 8 et 10 ante
meridiem ejusdem die etc. introducto libro precum in
Latina concept', relatum fuit curse et revision! reverendi
in Cbristo patris Johannis permissione divina Sarum epis-
copi [that is John Earle, Bishop of Salisbury, Septem-
ber. 1663, to 17 November, 1665], et Johannis Dolben
S.T.P. decani Weetmonasteriensie." — Cardwell, 'Syno-
dalia,' ii. 683.
Probably this refers not to the special Con-
vocation Office, but rather to the matter treated of
in Session Ixxx., in which the care "de transla-
tione libri pnblicarum precum " was committed to
Dr. John Earle, Dean of Westminster, and to
Dr. John Peirson (ibid. , p. 671). The twenty-fifth
session had ordered the " liber precum publicarum
in Latinum versus" to be reprinted (ibid., p. 628).
These three entries in all probability relate to the
translation of the whole Book of Common Prayer.
The ceremonies observed at the opening of Con-
vocation had varied from time to time. In
January, 1562,
"on the second day of meeting, the Archbishop
[Matthew Parker] came to St. Paul'?, where, after the
Litany in English, Day, Provost of Eton, preached the
opening sermon." — Lathbury, p. 162.
In the Tenison MSS. is a directory for the first
day of Convocation : —
" A Directorie for orders to be observed by my lord of
Canterbury his grace the first day of the Convocation,
To St. Paul's. To put on their robes in the vestry.
The ministers of the Church to say the Litany, and
afterwards ' Veni Creator ' in English. The preacher to
preach in Latin. The archbishop to make an oration to
the bishops and clergy. The archbishop sends the clergy
to the accustomed place to choose a prolocutor." — Lath-
bury, p. 163.
On 14 April, 1640, the archbishop, William
Laud, came from Lambeth to Paul's Wharf " in
naviculo dicto vulgo a barge," where he was
received by the proctors and other ministers of
his Court of Canterbury of the Arches. Thence
he passed "in curru sive vehiculo"to the epis-
copal palace, which adjoined the north-western
tower of the cathedral. A little later, vested
"amictu et habitu," he was conducted " ad
ostium boreale ecclesiaa Paulinee juxta palatium
episcopale," through which he passed into the
cathedral. Here the archbishop was received by
the dean, Thomas Wynnyff, two canons resi-
dentiary, and other ministers, robed in surplices,
who conducted him to the choir, and placed him
in the dean's stall. Suffragan bishops of the pro-
vince of Canterbury accompanied him in their
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
habits, and sat in the stalls of the prebendaries on
either side of the choir. The " Te Deum " was then
sung in English, and Dr. Turner preached a Latin
sermon. (Card well, ' Synodalia,' pp. 595-6.)
On 8 May, 1660, " Te Deum " was sung, and a
Latin sermon preached. (Lathbury, pp. 279-81.)
On 31 December, 1701, the new Convocation
was opened, " the Latin service having been read
by the Bishop of Oxford, and the sermon preached
by the Dean of St. Paul's," Dr. William Sherlock.
(Lathbury, p. 363.) This "Latin service" is
beyond all doubt the* 'Forma Precum " still in
use ; perhaps this is the first occasion of its public
recitation, as, although the form was printed, as
has been already stated, in 1689, Convocation did
not meet from that period till 1700.
The question which remains to be determined is
that proposed at the commencement of the present
paper : Who were the persons by whom this Latin
version was made? Whoever they were, they did
not take any of the existing translations. The
Litany of the "Forma Precum" is not that of
the Elizabethan Prayer Book ; nor is it that
of Dr. Durel. (Parsell's version was not issued
till 1706, and Dr. Harwood's was still later.) It
is much to be regretted that the familiar language
of the Elizabethan book was not retained, the
false taste of the age preferring a quasi-classical
rendering to the old ecclesiastical Latinity. The
same spirit, as every liturgiologist knows, is to be
discerned in recensions of the French breviaries.
It was the fashion of the age. It may be permis-
sible to give a few examples of the older Latin,
contrasted with that now in use. In these
parallel passages, the first is taken from the Latin
Prayer Book printed by Thomas Vautrollier in
1574, the second from the ' 'Forma Precum " in
use to-day : —
1. "Ab omni peccato, malo, et infortunio, ab insidiis
diaboli," &c.
"Ab omni malo et afflictione, a peccato, ab insidiis et
incursibus diaboli," &c.
2. " A caecitate cordis, Superbia, Ambitione, Hypocrisi,
Ira, Odio, Malitia, et Discordia."
" Ab omni caecitate cordis, a superbia, vana gloria, et
hypocrisi ; ab invidia, odio, malitia, et ab omni affectu
caritate alieno."
3. "A fornicatione, et aliis omnibus peccatis mor-
talibus, et a tentationibus carnis, mundi, et diaboli."
" A scortatione, omnique alio peccato mortifero; et
ab omnibus dolis mundi, carnis, et diaboli."
4. " A fulgure et tempestate, a plaga et pestilentia,
fame, bello, latrocinio, et morte subitanea."
" A fulgure et procella ; a lue, pestilentia, et fame; a
bello, caede, et ab improvisa morte."
6. " Ab omni seditione et conspiratione," &c.
" Ab omni seditione, clandestina conjur'atione, et per-
duellione," &c.
6. " Ut peregrinantibus terra marique."
" Ut omnea terra marique iter facientes."
7. "Ut pupillis et orphanis, viduis prospicere
digneris."
•' Ut orphanis et vidula opitulari et providere
digneris."
It must be confessed that " ab improvisa
morte" is to be preferred for many reasons to "a
morte subitanea"; and it must be remembered
that some of the other variations were rendered
necessary by the revisions of the English Prayer
Book. At any rate, the Convocation translators
escaped the " Te quassumus, exaudi nos, Jova " of
the first edition of Parsell.
It may be well to give the special petition
peculiar to the " Forma Precum " :—
" Ut prgesenti buic Convocation! [vel synodo] Spiritu
Tuo Sancto aspirare, et praeesse digneris; qui nos^ducat
in omnem veritatem, quae est secundum pietatem."
I have collated the editions of 1689, 1700,
1702, 1741, but the results of the collation have
no general interest. And I may add that I have
referred to Wilkins's 'Concilia,' but without gaining
any fresh light. W. SPAKROW SIMPSON.
THE CAUL, SILLY-HOW, or SILLY-HOOD.— This
term is sometimes applied to the amnion or caul,
that natural membrane which now and then
happens to be on the head of an infant when it comes
into the world, and is then supposed to possess
supernatural qualities, whereas in ordinary cases^it
remains unnoticed. " A child's caul for sale " is,
or was, no uncommon subject for an advertisement,
and readers of Dickens will remember that David
Copperfield " was born with a caul, which was
advertised for sale in the newspapers at the low
price of fifteen guineas." I have lately heard of some
notions which are quite new to me, and^ are not
nil mentioned in the section on the caul in Ellis's
Brand, iii. 114, where, in accordance with the
meaning of silly-hood, i.e., happy or lucky hood,
it is said to be supposed that, if treated with due
respect, it will secure good fortune to the original
wearer, or bring it to any one who gets posses-
sion of the article. Especially was it supposed to
make it impossible for any ship that carried one to
go down at sea, hence the advertisements addressed
to sailors, such as those quoted in * Brand/ and,
for anything I know, a caul may still fetch its
price. If so, a dishonest midwife might soon grow
rich, for there are as many cauls as babies, and it
would not be necessary to explain that the caul
which was being disposed of had not been seen on
an infant's head ; for what difference could it
possibly make ? Caveat emptor.
What I have heard is this. A middle-aged
domestic in Lincolnshire, lately told a lady of
somebody
"who had web-feet, she had seen them, and it was all to
do with when he was born he was born with a Billy-hood,
a sort of a veil over his head. And if they don't take
care of it, the child will grow up a wanderer. They
stretch it out, real thin it is, like tissue paper, and they
put it on paper. And they always know by it if the person
is ill. My aunt at K — said it, and showed it to me,
like the thin part of a pig's apron, midgin some folks
calls it, where it's finest, and she said it'll go damp
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
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always if he ails anything (see Grose, quoted in Brand
115). And I says one day to my mother, about a son
brother of mine, that was always upon the wander about
and never settled, I says, I wonder what makes him do
that a-way. Why. she saya, it's all along of his being
born in a sillyhood. He can't help it, for we never kept
it, as we ought to have done."
So, then, it would seem that one particular good
fortune which the silly-hood brings is that of living
a quiet, settled life. Which reminds me of the
local proverb attributed to Mother Shipton :
"Happy is the man that's born between Trent
and Ancholme, and there abides." Questioned as
to shipwreck, our informant said, " Oh, yes, I know
they are a fine thing against storms, they say." It
appears that the superstition came originally from
the East, and that there are several words in
Arabic for the caul. St. Chrysostom inveighs
against these foolish notions in several of his
homilies. The French saying, " II est no" coiffeV'
means " He is a lucky man. " See further in
Brand. J. T. F.
Bp. Hatfield's Hall, Durham.
ARBITRATION : A PROPHECY. — Now that the
treaty between this country and the United States
is an almost accomplished fact, the following
cutting from the Morning, 20 August, 1896, will
be read with interest : —
" The editor of the New England Magazine recalls a
prophecy uttered by Edward Everett Hale when preach-
ing in 1889. It reads curiously in the light of the last
eight months : ' The twentieth century will apply the
word of the Prince of Peace to international life. The
beginning will not be made at the end of war, but in
some time of peace. The suggestion will come from one
of the Six Great Powers. It will be from a nation which
has no large permanent military establishment ; that is
to say, it will probably come from the United States.
This nation, in the most friendly way, will propose to
the other great Powers to name each one jurist of world-
wide fame, who with the other five shall form a
permanent tribunal of the highest dignity. Everything
will be done to give this tribunal the honour and respect
of the world. As an international court, it will be
organized without reference to any especial case under
discussion. Then it will exist. Gradually the habit will
be formed of consulting this august tribunal in all ques-
tions before States. More and more will men of honour
and command feel that an appointment to serve on this
tribunal is the highest human dignity. Of such a tribunal
the decisions, though no musket enforce them, will be
one day received of course.' '
C. P. HALE.
THE JOXON MEDAL OF CHARLES I.— The
acquirement of the Juxon gold medal of Charles I.
by the Trustees of the British Museum follows
curious antecedents. It is believed to have been
proposed for a five- pound gold piece which was
never struck ; on one side, a bare-headed bust in
armour with lace collar, reverse, a fine boldly struck
garnished shield with the royal arms inscribed
' Florent Concordia Regna." It was said to have
been presented to Bishop Juxon by Charles I. on
the morning of the execution. The bishop devised
it by will to Mrs. Mary Gayters, from whom it
descended to her grand -daughter, who married a
clergyman, the Rev4 James Commeline, whose
grandson, the Rev. Mr. Commeline, of St» John's
College, Cambridge, sold it to Lieut-Col. Drum-
mond, who disposed of it to Mr. Till, a coin dealer
in Russell Street, Co vent Garden, for 50Z. By
him it was offered for 80Z. to the Trustees of the
British Museum, who refused to purchase, and Mr.
Till at once sold it to Mr. J. Dodsley Cuff for 6(M.
In July, 1854, Mr. Cuff's coins were offered for
sale by Messrs. Sotheby & Wilkinson, when the
agent for the British Museum contended for the
medal at thrice the sum for which the Trustees
previously rejected it. Mr. Brown, of the publish-
ing firm Longman & Co., however, acquired it for
260Z., the largest amount that up to then had ever
been paid for a single coin. At the recent sale the
Trustees of the British Museum acquired the
medal for 770Z. which at one time they might have
purchased for SOL HILDA GAMLIN.
Camden Lawn, Birkenhead.
MIDSUMMER FIRES IN THE NORTH OF SCOT-
LAND.—Various have been the traces of archaic
sun-worship in our land, both in mediaeval and in
modern times. Vestiges of the cult were to be
found in the North of Scotland in the seventeenth
century in the form of Midsummer fires, still to be
seen in Norway. There are allusions to the
custom in ' Records of the Presbyteries of Inver*
ness and Dingwall,' 1643-1688 (Scottish History
Society, 1896), where we read (p. 268) : —
" Dingwell, 26 Junij, 1655. It is ordained that the
severall brethren intimate to thair congregates that they
desist of the superstitious abuses vsed on St. Johnes day
by burneing torches through thair cornee, and fyfes in
thair townes, and thaire-efter fixing thair staicks in
thair Kaileyeards."
Again we read (p. 323) : —
"Dingwall, 13 June, 1671. The Brethren were
ordained to make publique intimatione to there severall
congregationes of the act passed in Synod against Midde-
summer fires."
With reference to the former extract, Mr*
William Mackay, the editor of the work, observes '
" The minute of July, 1655, shows that the oft-repeated
statement that kail was not known in the Highlands
until recent times is incorrect. In that year, evidently,
kailyards were common, and were, along with the corn-
fields, made the object of the blessing that came through
the ancient sacrifice of the Midsummer Fire."
Glasgow.
J. M. MACKINLAT, F.S.A.
of
' THE SHIP OF FOOLS.' — A comparison
Ascensius's * Nauis Stultifere Collectanea/
1513, with Barclay's 'Ship of Fools,* London,
1509, leads to the conclusion that the various
translators of this popular work took the largest
possible liberties with the text. The original
blocks, one of which is dated 1494 (the fool and
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the dandy), seem to have been sent from Germany
to England and thence to France, perhaps without
full accompanying letterpress. The eleventh pic-
ture represents the fool leaning on a club and
talking with a woman (?) of half his size, who is
seated on a board. Each of his feet rests on a
book. The heading is "De Incredulis," but
Ascensius* adds four caustic lines against over-
credulity : —
Sunt qui pneuma sacrum cornigero eirigula principi
Dictauisse putant verba : nee hinc demere litteram
Audent vel minimam : stultitiam quorum ego maximam
Sic taxo vt vetulae qua superoa narrat & inferos.
The " princeps corniger " is Moses, Barclay has
nothing of this. I regret that I have not access to
the ' Narrenschiff.' A comparison of editions might
lead to interesting results.
RICHARD H. THORNTON.
Portland, Oregon.
PEARLS. — In an old newspaper cutting which
came under my notice a few days ago I met with
the statement that shortly before the assassination
of Henry IV. of France, in 1610, his Queen, Mary
de Medicis, dreamed that all the jewels in her
crown were changed into pearls, and pearls, she
was told, betokened tears. I was reminded of a
passage in Webster's ' Duchess of Malfi ' — acted
for the first time within a decade of the occurrence
—which may have been suggested by it : —
Duchess. I had a very strange dream to-night.
Antonio. What was 't?
Duchess. Methought I wore my coronet of state,
And on a sudden all the diamonds
Were cbang'd to pearls.
Antonio. My interpretation
Is, you'll weep shortly; for to me the pearls
Do signify your tears.
The ill omen of pearls as bridal adornments has
doubtless been referred to already in ' N. & Q.'
The duchess's reflection,
The birds that live i' the field
On the wild benefit of nature live
Happier than we ; for they may choose their mates,
was, if I be rightly informed, either quoted or un-
consciously repeated at an interesting crisis by an
English princess of onr own day.
ST. SWITHIN.
"ALL Mr EYE AND PEGGY MARTIN."— This
Variant of " All my eye and Betty Martin " is new
to me, though it may not be so to yourself or to
some of your readers. It is used in the * Clock
Almanack ' for this year, p. 39, in a short sketch
called 'The New Woman7: "They can tak big
enuff strides and dress daycently at the same time.
But it 's all mi-eye-an-peggy-martin ! " In Mr.
E. Edwards's * Words, Facts and Phrases,' pp. 376-7,
it is stated that CUTHBERT BEDE recorded in the
columns of CN. & Q.,' 17 December, 1859, that
[* Qy. Brandt? Is not Ascensiua the printer of the
book?]
he had found the expression "All my eye and
Betty Martin" in an old black-letter volume,
without date, entitled, ' The Eyghte Tragycall
Historic of Master Thomas Thumbe.' "This
shows," says Mr. Edwards, " that the phrase has
been in use for something like three hundred years."
Is it so ? I do not wish to be referred to Grose,
Brewer, &c. F. C. BIRKBECK TERRY.
COMPETITOR FOR LONGEST REIGN. — Apropos
of the Queen's Diamond Jubilee, it may perhaps
not be altogether out of place to recall to recollec-
tion the fact that Her Majesty's reign, although
"already longer than that of any anointed
monarch of England " (as Mr. Andrew Lang
reminds us in his article * Victorian Literature,'
in this month's Good Words), still falls short of
"that of an uncrowned king, James III."
James II. died at St. Germains, 6 September,
1701, and the Prince of Wales (James Francis
Edward) was acknowledged by Louis XIV. as
James III. the same day ; he died in 1765,
having been king de jure (at any rate in the
opinion of some of our great-grandfathers), if not
de facto, for sixty-four years. No doubt Her
Majesty will easily beat even this record ; but we
must wait until 1901 for her to do so.
F. L. MAWDESLEY.
THE FIRST USE OF CHLOROFORM IN ENG-
LAND.— The following is a cutting from the
Slought Eton, and Windsor Observer of 2 January,
and is an extract from the speech made by Dr.
Buee of Slough, when thanking the Board of
Guardians for a presentation on resigning the
appointment of medical officer. Dr. Buee says :—
" He began his career in Bath in 1834, when things
were very different from what they were now. Then it
was customary to bleed, cup, blister, leech, apply
seatons as counter irritants, moxa, and he could not tell
them how many varieties of torture Then, again.
with regard to surgery, anaesthetics and antiseptics had
completely altered the character of surgery, and opera-
tions could be performed now which years ago were
absolutely impossible. Cutting off a leg without chloro-
form was a most terrible affair, but now under chloro-
form the patient was like a log. With regard to chloro-
form, if they would turn to Haydn's ' Dictionary of
Dates,' they would find [it there stated] that chloroform
was first used in England in December, 1848, and
[that] it was given by a Mr. Robinson, a dentist in
London, in a case of tooth drawing. In 1848 there came
into this neighbourhood [Slough] a Mr. Irvine. He
bought that property which belonged at one time to
Mr. Grote [historian of Greece], at East Burhbam. He
had just come from Edinburgh, and his sister with him,
and he was not only a patient, but a great friend of Sir
James Simpson. He (Dr. Buee) happened to go there
one day in January to see his sister, and Mr. Irvine had
just received a letter from Sir James Simpson, who was
describing his success in giving chloroform. As he had
been so successful with chloroform he (Dr. Buee) did
not see why he should not try it. He said to Mr.
Irvine, ' How shall I get the chloroform ? ' Mr. Irvine
replied, ' If you write to Duncan & Flockhart, of Edin-
burgh, and use my name, they will send it down imme-
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diately.' He (the speaker) wrote the same day to
Edinburgh for the chloroform, and in three days he got
it. On the following morning, 10 January, 1848, he
used it at the birth of a person he saw only a few days
ago, so that there was no mistake about it whatever, and
he firmly believed he was the very first person to use
chloroform in England,"
Here we have a specific claim made, and the date
given as 10 January, 1848, If this be correct the
* Dictionary of Dates ' might be corrected.
R, HEDGER WALLACE.
We must request correspondents desiring information
on family matters of only private interest to affix their
names and addresses to their queries, in order that the
answers may be addressed to them direct.
ST. JOHN BAPTIST'S ABBEY, COLCHESTER. —
Can any of your readers tell me of the whereabouts
of a document which contains a contemporary
drawing of the martyrdom of Blessed John Beche
(alias Thomas Marshall), last abbot of St. John
Baptist's, Colchester, on 1 Dec., 1539 ? It is an
account of the possessions of the abbey, drawn up
(apparently) for the use of the Royal Commissions
who seized the property as that of a convicted
traitor. In 1850 the MS. was in the hands of a
Mr. Finney, of High Street, Leicester, and a copy
of the drawing (now in my possession) was made
by Miss Gresby. The drawing represents (appa-
rently) the abbot being led out to execution from
the abbey gates, the procession being headed by
the sheriff, or Royal Commissioner, riding on a horse
and bearing a wand of office. In the distance, on
a hill-top, is seen the execution of the abbot, who
is hanging on a gibbet.
DOM BEDE CAMM, O.S.B.
CAPELLANUS. — What is the precise meaning of
capellanus as used in a document dated 1375 ?
Among the records of the parish of Hartington I
find in a list of the vicars one at this date so
styled. Is the word properly applicable to a vicar
or other officiating priest of the parish ; or does it
necessarily mean a chantry priest or chaplain of
any kind ; and does it imply the existence of a
chantry 1 What is the best book to refer to for
an explanation of words used in English mediaeval
ecclesiastical documents ? WILLIAM FTLDES.
Hartington.
[See Ducange's ' Glossarium,']
ROWEN FAMILY. --My grandfather William
Rowen married Catherine Evans in Scotland
about 1825 or 1830, and died about 1850 or 1852,
when his wife and family came to this country. In
ascending the Mississippi River, en route to Cin-
cinnati, Ohio, the boat capsized and all the family
were drowned except my mother. She was only
a child floating in, tb,e wrepfcage? but tpld where
she was going, and that she had a brother Thomas
in Cincinnati, who subsequently died ; so that my
mother knows nothing of her family. I think the
wreck was of the John Adams, on 27 Jan., 1851,
spoken of in the * Annual Register ' (British), but
have no means of knowing. I am not aware of
the locality of Scotland where they lived, but seek
information. Perhaps the official death record
of Scotland will show. Information concerning
this family would be much valued.
GEO. E. FLEMING.
Cambridge, Maes,, U.S.
PASSAGE IN * MIDDLEMARCH.' — George Eliot,
speaking of Mr. Casaubon's limitations, asks, " Did
not an immortal physicist and interpreter of hiero-
glyphs write detestable verses ? " Who is here
referred to ? The famous discoverer in physics and
in the reading of Egyptian hieroglyphics is, no doubt,
Dr. Thomas Young ; but did he write verses ? If
not, can it be that the learned George Eliot mixed
up Thomas Young, born 1773, with his namesake,
Edward Young, of the * Night Thoughts,' who died
in ] 765 ? It seems hardly possible, so I ask, Was
Dr. Thomas Young a verse- writer ?
A. SMYTHE PALMER.
South Woodford.
GEORGE HERBERT. — In 'A Priest to the
Temple,' chap. x. , occurs the expression, singular
enough from the author, " His children he first
makes Christians, and then Commonwealth's men."
Is there any means of knowing whether these are
the words of the original manuscript? For the
book was written in 1632, but not published until
1652, when the de facto state of affairs made
"Commonwealth" only too realistic. But Bar-
nabas Oley was an editor whom we might expect
to have been faithful to his author's own words,
even at the risk of losing life and liberty, and no
alteration appears in later editions.
EDWARD H. MARSHALL, M.A.
Hastings.
COAT OP ARMS.— Azure, a chief or (?), over all
a lion rampant ermine. Impaling Argent, six
flower-heads (qy. columbine, not, however, drop-
ping ?) purpure (?), three, two, and one, and on a
chief sable three castles or. The owner of a book
after or about the year 1480. Can any one en-
lighten me ? 0. S.
SIR GEORGE PAGE.— Can any of your contri-
butors give me information regarding a Sir George
Page, said to have been a military officer ? He
lived about 1680. SIGMA TAU.
BRIDGE. — There is between Bothwell and
Motherwell, Lanarkshire, an old Roman bridge
over the river Calder. I visited it quite recently,
and it seems to be in a good state of preservation.
This, I am informed, was on Watting Street, which,
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[8"» 8. XI. FEB. 20, '97.
seems very probable, as it lies directly in that
route. Can any reader inform me by whom this
bridge was built? Does it belong to the days of
Antonius Pius"; or is it of an earlier date ?
CALEDONIA.
HADDON HALL. — We are told that the whole
manor of Haddon was given by William I. to
William Peverell. But the name of Henry de
Ferrars is also mentioned (I believe in * Domesday
Book ') as that of the owner of Haddon. I should
be glad of more light on this point. I can find very
scant record of the Peverells and Avenells. Can a
complete list of these early lords of Haddon be
compiled? F. H. 0.
HOLE HOUSE. — I shall be very glad if any
reader can inform me whether the name " the
Hole House," which occurs in a deed of
5 Henry VIIL, refers to any particular kind of
house — as, for instance, Wood House — or if it would
be simply a given name, such as, say, Red House,
Bleak House, &c. CHARLES DRURY.
BARDSLETS, CHURCHMEN. — Can any of your
correspondents give a complete list of the Bardsleys
and their relatives who have been ordained 1 I
refer to the present Bishop of Carlisle's relations ;
and think they will almost all be found in the
northern province. ARTHUR MAYALL.
STEAM. — Lombroso says, in the English edition
of « The Man of Genius,1 1891, p. 18, " Napoleon
rejected steam, and Richelieu sent Salomon de
Caus, its first inventor, to the Bicetre." On what
ground is the assertion that Salomon de Caus dis-
covered steam-power based? At p. 156 of the
same book Lombroso himself remarks, " In 1543
Blasco de Garay appears to have propelled a vessel
by steam and paddles in the port of Barcelona."
Where is a list to be found of the men of all ages
and countries who foresaw the employment of
steam as a motor-force ? M. P.
HUGHES OF TROSTREY. — Who is the present
representative of the ancient family known as
Hughes of Trostrey, who may also be described
as of Cilwch and Moyne's Court, all in the county
of Monmouth ? On the extinction of Hughes of
Brecon, towards the close of the eighteenth cen-
tury, the sole remaining line was said to be the
branch which somewhat later was called Hughes
of Cheltenham, who intermarried with Brydges of
Keynsham and St. John Lucas of Bath. Mr.
Robert Hughes, of Cheltenham, is named in
Burke's ' General Armory,' ed. 1879, as represent-
ing Hughes of Trostrey ; but inquiries at Chelten-
ham have failed to elicit any trace of the family.
Most of the authorities (apparently following
Jones's ' Brecknockshire') assert that the Hugheses
were extinct except at Cheltenham ; but I have
proof that a junior branch remains in Hughes of
Monmouth, which, if the Cheltenham line has died
out — as appears to be the case — is now solely
representative of this historic offshoot of the great
Silurian race of Herbert. Jones's mistake is
easily explained. JOHN HOJJSON MATTHEWS.
Town Hall, Cardiff.
ROBERT PERREAU.— Dr. Charles Brown, who
went to Berlin in 1778, and resided there for
several years as chief physician to two kings of
Prussia in succession, Frederick William II. and
Frederick William III., served an apprenticeship
to a surgeon in Newcastle-upon-Tyne, and is said
to have afterwards gone to London and actually
been " assistant to the unfortunate Robert Perreau,
who at that time kept a carriage and moved in
high sphere as to practice and society." Who was
Robert Perreau, and why styled " unfortunate " ?
NOVOCASTRENSIS.
JOSEPH NEELD, OR NIELD, OF FULHAM. — Who
was he ? He resided at a house in the High Street
from 1807 to 1813. Was he related to Neeld, the
eccentric character who left his fortune to the
Queen ? Two or three years ago a correspondent
of * N. & Q.' mentioned a Neeld of Fulham, but
though I have tried to find the reference I have
failed. CHAS. JAS. FERET.
49, Edith Road, West Kensington, W.
JESSAMY. — Was the pretty epithet " Jesaamy
Bride " invented by Goldsmith to apply to Mary
Horneck ; or was the word " Jessamy " in previous
use 1 If simply an inspiration of Goldsmith, it
would, of course, be useless to seek for its deriva-
tion. " Little Comedy " seems to speak for itself
as a playfully descriptive nickname.
JAMES HOOPER.
Norwich.
HORFIELD. — This manor is in Gloucestershire,
and was given to the Abbey of St. Augustine,
Bristol, and is now out on lease to the trustees of
Bishop Monk. The Court Rolls or books go back
to about 1652. The manor was sold by the Com*
missioners in the time of the Protectorate in 1649,
Where are the Court Rolls or books prior to 165S2
likely to be found ? Is anything known of the
history of this manor, or of the parish of Filton in
which the manor is partly situate, beyond what ii
to be found in the county histories ?
NEWTON WADE.
Newport, Mon.
ENGLAND, THE VIRGIN MARY'S DOWER.— Lasfe
year His Holiness Pope Leo XIII. wrote an
( Apostolical Letter to the Englishmen who seek
the Kingdom of God in the Unity of Faith," and
he added to this letter a prayer to the Virgin Mary
for our English brethren (" Ad sanctissimam Vir-
ginem pro Anglis fratribus deprecatio "). This
prayer begins with this sentence : " 0 beata Virgo
Maria, Mater Dei, Regina aostra et Mater dul-
s. xi. FEB. BO, 'wo NOTES AND QUERIES.
149
cissima, benigne oculos tuos converte ad Angliam
quae dos tua vocatur." Probably it is intended by
the Pope as an ancient, and perhaps trite, compli-
ment to England. But, in this case, what is its
history, and who is its author ? H. GAIDOZ.
22, Rue Servandoni, Paris.
' MENESTHO'S DAUGHTERS.' — In the Paris Salon
Catalogue for 1893 mention is made of a picture
by F. le Quesne entitled 'The Daughters of
Menestho.' What is known about them ? There is
no legend mentioned in any classical dictionary or
in any Egyptian books which I have been able to
consult. W. E. S.
KECK FAMILY.— I should be grateful for re-
ferences to pedigrees of this family, or any parti-
culars as to Nicolas and Thomas, sons of Anthony
Keck, of Sanford, and as to Anthony, son of Nicolas
Keck, of Brome Court. And where is Brome
Court? All named above were living in 1678.
A. T. M.
BAPTISTERIES. — I am informed that there is a
baptistery attached to Cranbrook Church, Kent,
and that there is only one other baptistery in
England. Is this so ; and where may this be ?
Also I am told that over the baptistery is a room
called Bloody Baker's Tower, where persecuted
Protestants were confined in the time of Queen
Mary, by, I suppose, either a dignitary of the
Church or a magistrate named Baker. I am
told this man's garments are, or were not long ago,
to be seen in a tattered condition hanging in the
church at Cranbrook. Can you tell me anything
further about these statements 1 E. A. C.
ABERGAVENNY PARISH EEGISTERS. — When
going through these registers during this month I
found the marriages and baptisms between 1707
and 1719 had been most carefully cut out. Can
any correspondent suggest a reason for this very
scandalous act ? Was it to conceal some dis-
agreeable entry ; or was any property in dispute ?
KEGINALD STEWART BODDINGTON.
Constitutional Club, Northumberland Avenue.
HYMN. — In what collection of hymns occurs that
commencing
I 'm not a little Protestant,
So call me what you will ?
KATHLEEN WARD.
Castle Ward, Downpatrick.
' HORSE SENSE." -This expression, common all
over the United States, is applied conversationally
in referring to any individual noticeable for com-
mon sense, and knowing, by a sort of instinct,
when and how to set about an action without
waiting for or seeking the advice of friends and
neighbours. Has it a local habitation in Great
Britain ? PENTUCKET.
Longwood, U.S,
THE PARTICLE "WITH."
(8th S. x. 472 ; xi. 93.)
MR. BIRKBECK TERRY'S comment on my note
is not what I expected. He admits that the
phrase "It, with its copy, were put into the same
cover," is ungrammatical, but thinks "it may be
defended on the ground of synesis." If this is, in
Dean Farrar's diction, a "sense construction,"* it
is not a common-sense one. The meaning of with
is "accompanied by," and by the principle of sub-
stitution it would be as correct to say " it, accom-
panied by its copy, were put," as "it, with its
copy, were put." It is usual, however, to treat
the adjunct, "with its copy," as an enlargement
not of the subject, but of the predicate ; we prefer
to write " it was put with its copy." But suppose
G. L. G. had written "with its copy it were put
into the same cover," would any of your readers
have thought that construction defensible " on the
ground of synesis"] The obvious conclusion is
that in the composition of a sentence an encum-
brance or enlargement of the subject tends to
obscure the syntax, whence the error exemplified
in such sentences as
The posture of your blows are yet unknown, f
an error to which Victorian writers are addicted
as well as Elizabethan, and with more frequency.
The construct™ ad synesim had free play in the
classical languages, and an imitation of Latin
syntax would yield the phrase, "I, with my brother,
are ordered to Capua," or, more briefly, "I, with
him, are ordered." The term is unknown in
English grammar, though the thing exists in a
small way therein. Our sense construction affects
only verbs and pronouns connected with nouns of
multitude and nouns of money, measure, or pro-
oortion — examples of syntax usual with the latter
class of nouns being, "Five shillings was paid for
it," "four yards is the distance," "three-fourths
of the wall is yet unbuilt." MR. TERRY adduces
a passage from Thucydides which might have
served as a model to G. L. G., as it has apparently
done to Dean Farrar. Jelf (' Grammar/ § 380)
who also cites the passage, says that this construc-
tion, so common in Latin, is very rare in Greek,
but he does not notice that the reading o-TrevSeTcu
has been proposed for <nrev$ovTai£ on account of
the participle /SovAo/xevos which follows. MR.
TERRY'S quotation from Dean Farrar " a propos
of this use " is amusing from the fact that a corre-
* The Dean's examples of " sense construction " do not
include sentences of the pattern under notice.
f Shakespeare, ' Julius Caesar,' V. i. 33. Dr. Abbott's
« Shakespearian Grammar ' contains a long list of similar
sentences.
J Not (TTrsvdovTai, as in MR. TERRY'S note, where the
accentuation ukra should, algo be corrected.
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
[8th S. XI. FEB. 20, '97.
spondent of the Saturday Review (Dec. 6, 1896,
p. 590) smartly castigated the Dean for perpetrat-
ing a similar anomaly of speech in an article entitled
* Two Archbishops,' in the Contemporary Review
for November, wherein he speaks of "Samuel
Wilberforce, whom, together with John Bright
and Mr. Gladstone, I would call the three most
truly eloquent speakers whom I have ever heard.''
Here we observe the Dean exemplifying in his
mother tongue the superiority of "the logic of
thought to that of grammatical forms/' as he had
previously done with no less success in his * Syntax'
(eighth ed., p. 103), when he remarked that "suc-
cession in place and time are constantly confused."
Yerily the Oantuarian deanery is not likely to lose
under its present occupant the repute for queer
English which it acquired under one of his pre-
decessors. How far this kind of syntax, for all
its rarity, could be carried in Greek is shown by
the following morsel of Lucian ('Dial Deorum,'
xii. 1) :^ €K€ivi] [scil. •>} €Pea] 7rapa\a/3ov(ra
KCU TOVS Kopi'/3aj/Tas avo) /cat KCITW T^V
"IStiv TrepnroXov&iv, •» uev oAoAvfovcra ITJ-I rw
*A « v to s" \ i_- u •*
A.TTyt 01 J\.o/ovpavT€? oe, K. T. A. — which is
almost beaten in English by Crabbe's
Pain mixed with pity in our bosoms rise.*
I can only regard this particular kind of syntax
as a vice of speech, and my object was to illustrate
its antiquity, which, but for your space, I could
further prove by Italian quotations. Its rarity in
Greek— on Jelf's testimony — shows that Greek
writers did not favour it. Whether educated
persons now using it consciously copy classical
models is questionable. Whoever does this foists
an ugly and needless barbarism into the language.
But a long observation of the failings of writers
induces me to ascribe the use of preposition for
conjunction in sentences like G. L. G.'s to haste
and forgetfulness ; besides, such a use is not con-
fined to the educated. F. ADAMS.
106A, Albany Road, Camberwell.
CHINESE PLAYING CARDS (8th S. viii. 467 ; xi.
76).— I bought a few packs of these for a trifle in
Penang some years ago ; and on looking at them
— so far as I can make out — I have, firstly, 84
cards in one packet ; but these appear to be four
duplicate sets of 21 each. They certainly represent
the 21 possible throws with two dice. The ones, the
fours, and the sixes are in red, except double-six,
which is half red, half black. Secondly, I have a
single set of 70 cards, viz., 35 blacks, 35 reds.
Each set of 35 is made up as follows : 1 single
card, which a native told me was Chinese ghin,
Malay maas=gold ; 10 of one suit (? Chinese pin.
Malay salalu) ; 24 more, divided apparently into
four sets of six, each set of six including a court
card. Lastly I have four duplicate sets. Each
* 'Tales of the Hall,' ii. 13.
set contains 30 cards, which may be divided
into three sets of 10, i.e., 9 plain cards and 1 court
card. I suspect these are the "white cards"
which your correspondent refers to in paragraph 4.
I could send your correspondent my duplicates to
look at, if he likes ; if so, will he please let me
know his address ; but can he lend me the article
in the Taal, Land, en Volkenkunde, Batavia, 1886,
to which he refers ? I can read it.
H. G. KENNEDY.
17, Victoria Avenue, Harrogate.
HAYNE : HAYNES (8th S. x. 515 ; xi. 37).-
Haynes is another form of the name. As a
Christian name it occurs thus, " Sans-Culotte
Haynes," on p. 86 of * Etudes et Documents sur
la Ville de Saintes.' It is extracted from the
municipal registers, and is given as an instance of
the new nomenclature, extended even to personal
names when the Reign of Terror was at its height.
ARTHUR MAYALL.
EARLY STEAM NAVIGATION (8tb S. xi. 88).—
" The first actual attempt at Atlantic steam navigation
was made by Colonel John Stevens, of New York, in
1819. This far-seeing gentleman despatched what would
now be called an auxiliary steamship, called the Savannah,
which was built by Crocker and Fickett at Corlears
Hook, New York, as an ordinary barque, but was soon
afterwards fitted with engines and boilers, and steamed
from the city of Savannah, on the 25th of May, 1819,
arriving in Liverpool, after a passage of thirty-five days,
on the 29th of June. Steam power was used eighteen
days, the paddle-wheels being so designed that they
could be unshipped, so as not to interfere with the
vessel's sailing qualities. This operation required over
half an hour's time to effect. Her bunker capacity was
but limited, as she could only carry eighty tons of coal
besides a quantity of wood fuel. Notwithstanding her
successful trip across the Atlantic, her machinery was
afterwards taken out, and she continued to trade for
some years as a sailing vessel, until, like so many other
famous vessels, she came to an ignominious end by being
wrecked on Long Island, in 1822. The engines of the
Savannah consisted of an inclined direct acting cylinder
of 40 inches diameter and 6 feet stroke, and the boiler
pressure used was 20 Ib. per square inch. Her speed
under steam alone averaged six knots." — 'The Atlantic
Ferry,' by Arthur J. Maginnis (Whittaker & Co., 1892).
WILLIAM FARRER.
Marton House, Skipton.
POPE'S EPITAPH ON MRS. ELIZABETH CORBET
(8th S. xi. 28).— Although there is the prefix of
1 'Mrs." before the name on this monument, there
is nothing to show that Elizabeth Corbet was a
married woman, there being no mention of her
husband ; and I believe that it was formerly the
custom for women, after arriving at a certain age,
to be so designated. I think perhaps a copy of
the whole of the inscription may be acceptable, as
it clearly shows that she was a native of Shrop-
shire. It is as follows : —
" In memory | of Mrs. Elizabeth Corbett, who departed
| this life at Paris, March ye 1st 1724 after a long | and
Painfull Sicknesp, she was daughter | of Sr TTvedale
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Corbett of Longnor in the County | of Salop Bar* By
the Right Honble ye Lady Mildred | Cecil who Ordered
this monument to be | Erected.
She was a woman good without pretence
Blest with plain Reason & with sober Sense
No Conquests she, but o're her Self, desir'd ;
No Arts essay'd, but not to be admir'd ;
Passion & Pride were to her Soul unknown,
Convinc'd that Virtue only is our own,
So Unaffected, so compos'd a Mind,
So firm, yet soft, so strong, yet so refin'd,
Heav'n as its purest Gold, by Torture's try'd
The Saint sustain'dit, but the woman dy'd.
Here Lieth also inter'd the Body of | the Right Honble
the Lady Mildred Hotham | daughter of James Cecill,
late Earl of Salisbury | who died January 18'h 1726-7.
She was first mar | ried to Sr Uvedale Corbett Bar' her
2nd husband | was Sr Charles Hotham of County | of
York Bart | This Monument was Finished | by her Son
Sr Richard Corbett, Bart."
Lady Mildred Hotham was the daughter of
James, fourth Earl of Salisbury, who was a Roman
Catholic. The relationship of Mrs. Corbet and
Lady Mildred may account for the remarkable
epitaph, with the authorship of which Pope is,
upon good grounds, credited. There is another
monument in St. Margaret's Church, Westminster,
to a member of the Corbet family, which it may
nob be out of place to give here : —
"M.S. | Here under | lyeth the body of | Sr Richard
Corbett | of Longnor in the County of Salop | Baronet,
who married Victoria | one «f the daughters & Coheires
of | Sr William Uvedale of Wickham | in the County of
Southampton K* | by whom he left one Son and three
Daughters. He departed | this life the 1st of August I
1683, in the 43rd year | of his Age."
These clearly show a close connexion with the
county of Salop, and may be of use to E. W.,
although not quite an answer to his query.
W. E. HARLAND-OXLEY.
"Di BON!" (8th S. x. 475).— This expletive
may probably be translated into " The devil's in
it ! " and " Go bon ! " into " Good God ! " or " God
be with us ! " In Cumberland the equivalent of
* Di bon " is perhaps " Deil bin," a favourite ex-
pression of Anderson in his * Ballads' (see the
1 Worton Wedding ') :—
O see a weddin I 've been at !
Deil bin, what cap'rin, fightin, vap'rin !
In South-west Northumberland, "Dal bin!" a
variant, no doubt, of " Deil bin ! " was in common
use thirty or thirty -five years ago. I give the
above conjectures for what they may be worth.
W. NIXON.
Warrington.
"
Go bon ! " is given in Mr. W. Dickinson's
'Dialect of Cumberland ' (E. D. S.), 1878, as "a
sort of oath. " I have often heard " Di thee " used
in North Yorkshire with the meaning of " Con-
found," 'Hang," "Plague take you," but not
Di bon." Can bon have anything to do with
the A.-S. bana, 6<ma, bane, destruction, &c. ?
F. C. BIRKBECK TERRY,
PRIME MINISTER (8tu S. x. 357, 438 ; xi. 69).
— A question was put at the first reference as to
the probable right of precedence involved by the
designation of Prime Minister. That query has
not been fully answered, and the significance and
weight of the position conveyed by the name have
been doubted by a correspondent at the second
reference, who states that the name Prime Minister
is "a comparatively recently adopted expression."
Of course that is limited by his idea of what is
comparatively recent; but we may presume it
does not go back beyond the Georgian era.
An elaborate reply has been published at the
last reference, in which MR. ROBBINS gives his
opinion to the effect that the name and office of
Prime Minister as such evolved in Walpole's
time, and that the name was first applied to him
by Swift, and then not exactly in that form, but as
the " premier minister of State." Walpole became
that, I think, in 1715.
I am unable to agree with either of your corre-
spondents, because I have evidence that the name
was not so modern in common usage as they sup-
pose, and I refer to their predecessor Drake,
who died 1707 ('Bibl. Brit.,' p. 317a, Edin. 1824),
and who, in 1706, published a reprint of Parsona's
libel on Queen Elizabeth, which bears as its
title-page, 'Secret Memoirs of Robert Dudley,
Earl of Leicester, Prime Minister and Favourite
of Queen Elizabeth,' Sam. Briscoe, London, 1706.
In corroboration, the editor of this 1706 edition
reminds us in his prefatory epistle that Conchini,
having married a bedchamber lady of Mary de
Medicis, was raised "to be prime minister" of
France.
Clearly the term Prime Minister was in use,
and implied a leading position as between the
sovereign and the other subjects of the Crown,
long before the days of Walpole.
JAMES GRAHAME.
METHLEY AND MEDLEY FAMILIES (8th S. x.
217, 420). — In my collection of monumental inscrip-
tions from local burial-grounds I have the following
from Sheffield parish churchyard : —
1. Matthew Methley, died 24 March, 1829, aged
seventy-two years.
2. James, son of James and Mary Methley,
died 22 October, 1806, aged eight years.
3. Cecelia, wife of William Methley, died
27 January, 1853, aged forty-eight years. Also
Rebecca, their daughter, who died 28 April, 1853,
aged eighteen years.
WILLIAM J. J. GLASSBY.
Meersbrook, Sheffield.
DR. RADCLIFFB (8th S. x. 415, 466, 519).-
MR. SQDIBBS will find an immense amount of
queer but interesting matter anent this once
fashionable leech in the ocean of foot-notes attached
to the memoir to be found in the old ' Biographia
152
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Britannica.' See also Jeaffreson's 'Book about
Doctors.' By the way, was this doctor a connexion
of the far-back English dame whose name was
given to the female department of Harvard Uni-
versity, formerly known as Harvard Annex, now
called Eadclifie College ? — a name recently chosen
by the relict of the late Prof. Agassiz in honour of
an unknown Mrs. Eadcliffe, a Puritan lady of
London, the first female donor to Harvard when
that now noble institution was an idea in embryo
in the shape of a log cabin shell in the wilderness
for the education of the agile but constipativo red
man, who from the first resented the idea as an
insult. As a new appellation Eadcliffe has proved
itself a lucky one, inasmuch as the rush on the
part of the fair ones to tread its present limited
hall space in a zealous desire for brain-splitting
exercise is already tormenting the minds of its
managers. What the American girl of the future
will culminate in no man knowetb, but at present
she is sniffed at in the Brahmin circles of New
England's metropolis as a very poorly endowed
candidate for the joys and woes of matrimony
unless she can show a Eadcliffe College degree and
has taken a full year's course at Boston's most
fashionable female institution, viz., the Boston
School of Cooking ; terms eighteen dollars for
twelve lessons, including full privilege of partaking
of the mysterious viands cooked by the dainty
hands of its aristocratic pupils ! GRAYHEAD.
Your querist will find an excellent account of
this famous doctor in the 'Lives of British
Physicians/ published by Murray, 1830 ; see also
Faulkner's 'Hammersmith.'
CHAS. JAS. FERET.
"VlVIT POST FUNERA VIRTUS " (8th S. V. 129;
vi. 79, 245 ; x. 362). — I cannot see why Borbonius
calls this " Dictum Tiberii Csesaris." His usually
ascribed motto is about shearing, not flaying
(Suetonius, 'Vit.,' c. xxxii.; Dio, bk. Ivii.). The
immortality of virtue was expressed long before by
Euripides : —
'Apern Se Kav Bdvn TIS OVK aTro
f.^ o> > ' \ /"
o OVK OI/TOS -
KOL
Fragm, ' Tern.'
' Androm.'
ED. MARSHALL.
This is the motto of the family of Malone. It
is inscribed with his arms upon the altar tomb of
"John Malone, of Dublin, Alderman," in the now
long ruined Portlester Chapel of St. Ouen's Church,
Dublin. The date of the inscription is 1592. I
should like to know whence it was taken by the
Elizabethan heralds. J. MALONE.
EPISCOPAL DEANS (8th S. x. 396, 484).—
W. C. B. writes, at the latter reference, " ' Episcopal
deans ' is an unfortunate description : it seems to
suggest that there might be Presbyterian or
Methodist deans." As a matter of fact there are
Presbyterian deans. The Queen's chaplains in
Scotland are Deans of the Chapel Eoyal : —
" On the Reformation the revenues [of the collegiate
church of Stirling, termed the Chapel Royal, founded by
Pope Alexander VI.] reverted to the Crown, but were
partly dispersed by Crown grants. King James VI.
granted a new charter in 1621 in favour of the Bishop
of Dunblane, which was ratified by Act of Parliament.
This charter included the whole benefice of the Chapel
Royal, which remained with the Bishops of Dunblane
until the abolition of Episcopacy in 1688, when the
teinds and other revenues again reverted to the Crown.
King William III. made a gift of the whole emoluments
to Mr. Carstaire, an ordained minister, and since that
time the Crown has gifted the revenues to those of
their [sic] chaplains in Scotland who enjoy them, and
are called Deans of the Chapel Royal." — ' Teiuds or
Tithes/ by N. Elliot, 1893, p. 36.
The senior dean, the Eev. J. Cameron Lees, D.D.,
minister of St. Giles, Edinburgh, is also Dean of
the Order of the Thistle. The truth is Dean is a
very common title in Scotland. The head of the
Faculty of Advocates in Edinburgh is the Dean.
The head of the Faculty of Procurators in Glasgow
is the Dean. The presidents of many smaller legal
bodies, such as the Faculty of Solicitors of Ayr,
are styled deans. The courts which supervise the
plans for new buildings and their erection are the
Dean of Guild Courts ; and in Edinburgh and
Glasgow the citizen who presides is addressed as
the Lord Dean of Guild, and bears the title in
private as well as in public during his term of
office. The heads of the various faculties of arts,
medicine, &c., in the Scottish universities are
also deans. The number of Scottish deans must,
curiously enough, exceed that of England.
WILLIAM GEORGE BLACK.
12, Sardinia Terrace, Glasgow.
THE WORD "GNOFFE" IN CHAUCER (4th S.
iii. 89, 180, 291 ; 8tb S. vi. 143 ; vii. 226, 256,
357, 437 ; x. 439 ; xi. 56).— At the third of these
references PROF. SKEAT, while dismissing the
suggestion of an old and valued correspondent that
gnoffe is an oaf, says it is the Danish gnav, a
churl. Twenty-five years afterwards he writes a
long note, which is reprinted in his 'Student's
Pastime,' p. 364, in which he ignores the Danish
derivation altogether, and finishes up by asserting
that gnoffe is the Hebrew ganav, a thief. PROF.
SKEAT forgets that the daghesh forte, which he
omits, is characteristic and essential in gannav,
and that by no phonetic possibility could that
word be slurred into gnoff. And what has become
of the Danish gnav ? W. F. PRIDEAUX.
ARMS (8th S. xi. 87).— So far as I know, the
French authorities give these arms to no French
family, noble or other. Eietstap assigns them, as
does Papworth, to Blennerhasset of Cumberland
and (afterwards) Ireland, with the field gules, but
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153
with, for crest, a wolf sejant proper. Papworth
gives them, with the field arg., to Hasset, whose
crest I have not been able to discover.
Fairbairn also gives the crest to Blunden, Earl,
Holmes, Lewis, Marlay, St. Pere, St. Pier, and
St. Pierre ; but I cannot find the arms described
borne by any family among those he names.
Perhaps some of them may give a clue.
JULIAN MARSHALL.
JEANNE D'ARC IN ENGLISH LITERATURE (8th
S. ix. 307, 392, 473).— PALAMEDES should read
M. Darmesteter's *Joan of Arc in England,' in
the ' English Studies ' (translated by Madame
Darmesteter), without a reference to which the
notes under this head are incomplete. The essay
is a thorough vindication of English opinion on the
subject of the Maid and (which is perhaps more
remarkable) of Shakespeare's attitude towards her.
" The only visible trace of the master hand of
Shakespeare exists in the scene before Angers," says
M. Darmesteter of ' 1 K. Henry VI.,' " where Joan
invokes her familiar spirits "; and after quoting
the passage in full, he adds : —
"Despite its flatness of rhythm, ita feebleness of
diction, this scene bears the imprint of a superior genius.
The oft-quoted encounter of Joan with Burgundy barely
rises above the commonplace. But here a very great
poet — still young, as yet no master of his craft, as yet
a mere inexperienced prejudiced youth, but a great
poet — shows himself touched by that mysterious sym-
pathy which heroism inspires in genius. He has lifted
to the height of his own soul the hateful witch, the foul
limb of the fiend, which Joan of Arc appeared to him
no less than to his contemporaries. He divines the
inner meaning of her actions. His hand, though hostile,
ennobles and enlarges all it touches. Joan, as Shake-
speare sees her, is still a witch, but the Satan in her is
sister to Milton's Satan. Her familiar demon is love of
country ; 'tis for her native land she sells herself, body
and soul and all : —
Then, take my soul — body, and soul, and all,
Before that England give the French the foil.
Two centuries later 'twill be the cry of Danton : ' Quo
ma memoire soit maudite, mais que la France soit
eauvee.'"
M. Darmesteter's review was written too early to
include the name of Mr. Andrew Lang, but down
to the date at which it appeared it is complete.
C. C. B.
EVENING SERVICES IN WESTMINSTER ABBEY
(8tb S. xi. 26). — It is worth recording that the
first late evensong at St. Paul's Cathedral was on
Advent Sunday, 28 Dec., 1858. A full account of
this " Church Revival" is given in the 'Annual
Register/ 1858, p. 196.
EDWARD H. MARSHALL, M.A.
Hastings.
"BORN DATS" (8th S. x. 477, 526).— The
meaning which PROF. SKEAT assigns to this every-
day phrase is surely the most reasonable and
commonly accepted one. The theory of a refer-
ence to a state of pre-existence will be a little " too
much " for the many to entertain. I am reminded
that the phrase is included in Davies's ' Supple-
mentary Glossary,' where, on making a reference,
I find : " Born days, a vulgar expression for the
whole life ; all the days since one was born." Mr.
Davies gives illustrations from Richardson and Miss
Edgworth. For those who like u chapter and
verse," this reference to the phrase may be useful.
C. P. HALE.
In my opinion this common dialectal expression
has nothing at all to do with any belief in a pre-
vious existence, but is simply equivalent to the
A.-S. lif-daeg, life-time, which appears in Early
English as lyf-day and lyfe-days.
F. C. BIRKBECK TERRY.
FOUBERT'S RIDING ACADEMY (8th S. x. 109,
159, 218).— There is an early and interesting refer-
ence (as below) to this establishment in a letter
from Sir Robert Southwell* to Sir William King,f
dated 5 Oct., 1 683— probably from King's Weston,
co. Gloucester — and written in good feeling and
full knowledge of the world, on the subject of the
start in life meditated by the writer's ward and
relative, Sir Thomas (afterwards Lord) South-
well^— then a graceless and inconsiderate young
spendthrift, who appears to have been so remiss in
every sentiment of gratitude towards his guardian,
and so unheedful of the latter's remonstrances con-
cerning his misconduct, as to cause Sir Robert in
the following year to give up the volun:ary
guardianship in despair of any good results. After
expressing a wish for Sir Thomas to remain in the
University,§ to gather more of the man, the writer
states : —
" Now he is under the rules, and cannot go far amiss ;
but a storm lights upon him. Should he be in the Inns
of Court, there is no inspection into any man's morals,
more than the advice of a private friend, to which there
are twenty young heroes that advise the contrary."
The difficulty of obtaining an efficient governor
during his travels is fully dilated on, and the
purposes of the Inns of Court, where young men
resorted who intended the practice of the law, are
spoken of as then declining. Sir Robert con-
tinues—
" Of late there is erected a very famous Academy in
London, governed by a French Gentleman, Mons.
* Son and heir of Robert Southwell, of Kingsale,
Ireland, esquire ; of Queen's College, Oxon. (created D.C.L.
1677) ; Clerk of Privy Council 1664 ; knighted 21 Dec.,
1665; Secretary of State for Ireland 1690; P.R.S. 1691 ;
died 11 Sept., 1702.
f Executor of the will of SirThoa. Southwell, of Court
Mattress, Castle Mattress, and Clogh-Kottered, in Ireland,
knight.
J Second baronet ; son of Richard Southwell ; created
Baron Southwell of Castle Mattress (as above) 4 Sept.,
1717; died 4 Aug., 1720.
§ Of Oxford, where he was under the tuition of the
celebrated Dean Aldrich; matriculated from Christ
Church 5 Dec., 1681, aged sixteen.
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Foubert, where riding, French, mathematics, and all
exercises are taught, which are usually learned in
Travel
-and proposes that Sir-Thomas should " pass six
months here, as many Englishmen doe, to prepare
them for the improvement of Travel."
This academy was, apparently, then in Sherwood
(or Sherard) Street, Piccadilly, but afterwards
removed. In the Print Eoom, British Museum
(Crowle, v. 38), is a coloured 'View of [Major]
Foubert's Riding House and Passage in Swallow
Street [taken down for Regent Street],' drawn by
0. Tomkins in 1801, size 9J in. by 6 in. ; and
also what would seem by the description in the
catalogue to be a duplicate drawing or copy of the
same in the Grace Collection of Maps, Plans, and
Views of London.
It is not a little singular that your correspondent
at the latter reference should have stated that " a
good history of the Golden Square district is a
desideratum," considering that— as is well known
in certain quarters, but not, I believe, to him— I
had only a short time previously, without sug-
gestion from any one, been collecting materials
from original sources for a paper on the subject.
I am also in possession of an original document of
the year 1709, relating to the title to the site of
the square and to the ground rents of the houses
erected thereon by various parties from 1664 to
1706- W. I. R. V.
See < N. & Q.,' !•* S. vi. 55, 136. W. C. B.
"RIGMAROLE" (8* S. x. 495).— Skelton, in his
Garlande of Laurell,' enumerating his various
works, has : —
Item Apollo that whirllid up his chare,
That made sum to snurre and enuf in the wynde,
and beseeches Fame
Owt of her bokis Apollo to rase.
Fame replies that what is once spoken in her
noble court "must nedes after rin all the worlde
aboute," and Skelton, pained at this decision,
declares : —
By Juppiter and his high mageste,
I did what I cowde to scrape out the scrollis,
Apollo to rase out of her ragman rollis.
In a note on this the Rev. A. Dyce (Skelton's
Poetical Works/ 1843, vol. ii. p. 335) states that
"the collection of deeds in which the Scottish nobility
and gentry were compelled to subscribe allegiance to
Edward I. of England in 1296, and which were more
particularly recorded in four large rolls of parchment
&c. was known by the name of Ragman's Roll: but
what has been written on the origin of this expression
v> •"«*••&•> «•'«• v.t mams 8
m S 9' to 'The Towneley Myst ' in v
and Todd's 'Johnson's Diet.,' in v. Rigmarole."
Bailey hag, "Ragman, a Statute appointed by
K. Edward III. for hearing and determining all
Complaints done five years before," and Dr. Brewer,
in ' Phrase and Fable,' says :—
" Ragman Roll originally meant the ' Statute of Rage-
man' (De Ragemannis), a legate of Scotland, who com*
pelled all the clergy to give a true account of their
benefices, that they might be taxed at Rome accordingly.
Subsequently it was applied to the four great rolls of
parchment recording the acts of fealty and homage done
by the Scotch nobility to Edward I. in 1296 ; these four
rolls consisted of thirty-five pieces sewn together. The
originals perished, but a record of them is preserved in
the Rolls House, Chancery Lane."
I think the venerable author should, if possible,
have given the date of the " Statute of Rageman,"
and as to Rageman the legate I must confess to
utter ignorance.
Under " Rewe " Dr. Brewer gives some informa-
tion as to " Ragman's Rewe " in * Piers Plowman '
and in Udall.
It remains for Prof. Skeat, or some other expert,
to trace the historical development of "Ragman
Roll " into rigmarole, if any such growth occurred.
Dr. Brewer does not give rigmarole in 'Phrase
and Fable.' JAMES HOOPER.
Norwich.
^ ragman in Halliwell's 'Archaic and Pro-
vincial Dictionary ' and in Prof. Skeat's Glossarial
Index to 'Piers the Plowman* (small edition),
where he derives rigmarole from "Ragman Roll,"
meaning "a document with a long list of names
or with numerous seals." A. G. C.
EARLY MENTIONS OF LIFT (7th S. x. 85 ; 8th S.
x. 412, 465).— The Manchester Guardian of
23 November, in an editorial reference to my
previous contribution under this heading, says : —
" The « lift ' in houses, hotels, and public buildings is
regarded as an importation from America, but the name
does not occur in the classic pages of Noah Webster.
Warehouses in old Manchester were mostly supplied
with 4 teagles,' by which goods and persons were trans-
ported from one storey to another. The word occurs in
' Mary Barton.' The new * elevator ' is but the old-
fashioned 'teaglo' writ large and adapted to changed
circumstances and a more luxurious time. The device
is, of course, obvious, and many minds may have hit
upon it independently in many places."
May not the absence of the word " lift " from
Webster's 'Dictionary' be accounted for by the
fact that in the United States the machine is
always referred to as an " elevator " ?
ALFRED F. ROBBINS.
I have not within reach the Seventh Series of
*N. & Q.' to which I might refer in order to
perceive if this note is merely travelling over
ground familiar to readers. But MR. ROBBINS,
in his communication under the above heading,
does not seem to suspect that lifts were introduced
much earlier than a century ago, and he appears to
believe, or rather conjecture, that they were " in-
vented for the comfort of royalty." Had he studied
the Coliseum, or interested himself in the writings,
1
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
155
of Seneca, he would have come to a different con-
clusion. He would have been able to carry back
their usage at a leap to the sixth century, and then
at another leap to the days possibly of Augustus
Caesar. But I do not think he would have come
to the conclusion that they were invented for the
comfort of royalty so much as for hoisting wild
beasts, &c., on to the arena with rapidity through
trap-doors. These lifts were square, and the grooves
in which they made their ascent and descent can
be examined quite satisfactorily. In the Coliseum,
however, they would seem to have been adapted
to supersede the more space- wasting inclined
planes up which the beasts were driven.
Nevertheless Seneca, in his eighty-eighth epistle,
describes similar machines very particularly as
being used in his own day in places of popular
entertainment under the name of pegmata, which
rise, as it were, out of themselves and subside
again.* These were worked by machinatores, or
scene-shifters, and not improbably were utilized as
occasion served for actors, biped as well as quad-
ruped, and scenery.
It is true, of course, that pegma is not the literal
equivalent for our word "lift," nor did every pegma
connote a lift ; but rude lifts certainly were in use,
and were denominated pegmata. A gladiator,
therefore, may now and again have been heard to
use the equivalent of the comical phrase heard at
a store by a friend of mine, " Please elevate me a
little lower." ST. CLAIR BADDELEY.
According to Fournier, 'Le Vieux-Neuf/ the
invention of lifts dates from the time of
Louis XIV., and it was M. de Villayer, of the
French Academy, who brought them into fashion
in 1680. Fournier refers to the ' Journal de
Dangeau ' (complete edition, with notes, by
Saint-Simon, vol. iii. p. 265). A M. Thonier
also constructed a lift at about the same time, but
it was not a success, and the inventor met with
an accident and broke his arms and legs.
Murdoch in the early years of this century con-
structed, at Soho Foundry, Birmingham, a pneu-
matic lift in which compressed air was made to
raise and lower castings from the boring mill to
the level of the foundry.
But passenger lifts such as we now have appear
to have been introduced within the past thirty-five
or forty years. The following is an extract from
the Builder, 10 Sept., 1859 :—
' The New York Herald describes a new and monster
hotel which ia in the course of erection in Madison
Square, at the intersection of the Fifth Avenue and
Broadway in that city. This gigantic establishment,
which is six stories high, exclusive of basement, covers
an acre of ground and contains 500 rooms for guests. It
has 125 parlours, with suites of rooms, and each has a
hath attached and a water-closet. Some of these par-
lours are 27 ft. by 15 ft. The accommodation is in every
* Of. Plin,, 33, 3, 16.
respect perfect; but, perhaps, the most powerful
feature in the hotel is that it will contain a vertical
railway, that is, a carriage will move from the top to
the bottom of the building, and from bottom to top.
It will be forced upwards by the application of steam
power, and the descent will be regulated by the resist-
ance of hydraulic power, so as to guard against acci-
dents. The car will be attached to a shaft, which,
being turned by steam, will cause the car to proceed
upwards by meana of a screw, or on the principle of the
inclined plane. The car stops at each floor, and pas-
sengers are landed, and others taken in. In the same
way, in making the descent, it stops at each floor. It is
stated that there will be contrivances at each of these
landings to prevent accidents. Behind the vertical
railway is a baggage elevator, moved by the same
power. The object of this is obviously to save the neces-
sity of taking trunks up and down the stairs — a great
convenience. Near the vertical railway there is a
capacious staircase for those who prefer using their
legs. The cost of the erection and furnishing this
hotel will be upwards of a million of dollars."
RHYS JENKINS.
Miss Burney, in her * Diary/ mentions a u sink-
ing table," as Johnson calls it, at the curious
house known as Ferry's Folly, near Bath. This
was in 1780. EDWARD H. MARSHALL, M.A.
Hastings.
The following passage occurs in Miss Strick-
land's ' Lives of the Queens of England/ in the
life of Queen Anne : —
"She left off all exercise whatever, insomuch that,
like Henry VI II., during her stay at Windsor Castle in
the decline of the year 1713 she was, to spare herself the
trouble of ascending and descending stairs, lowered
from the ceiling of one room into another by means of
a chair fitted up with pulleys and tackling. It is pro-
bable that the apparatus and contrivances which had
been used for the queen's corpulent predecessor still
remained at Windsor Castle " (fourth edition, vol. viii.
ch. x.).
L. F. G.
SHELTA (8th S. x. 434, 521).— I should like
to thank COL. PRIDEAUX for his very considerate
reply to my remarks on his previous letter. My
reason for preferring to confine the term " rhyming
slang " to the stricter nse was that there is a better
term for the looser meaning in the phrase " head
slang/' which I take to mean slang manufactured
by changing the " head " or initial of a word ; but
if I am wrong I desire to be corrected.
The fact pointed out by COL. PRIDEAUX, that
Shelta tends to group its words under very few
initials, reminds me of an observation I recently
made, which I venture to put on record here,
because it has never appeared in print, and will
interest him and others. Of course every one
knows that five out of the ten Shelta numerals
(those for 3, 4, 5, 6, 7) commence with sh. Making
some investigations lately into Dutch and Flemish
slang, I noticed the same tendency in the numbers,
only that the initial in this case was Ic, 5, 6, 7, 8,
appearing as kijf, kes, keven, kacht.
JAS. PLATT, JUD.
156
NOTES AND QUERIES.
S. XI. FEB. 20, '97.
SIR WILLIAM GRANT, MASTER OF THE ROLLS
(7th S. v. 28, 135, 193, 273 ; vii. 166, 272).— Some
while ago, two years at least, I heard that some
one had asked in ' N. & Q.' for information re Sir
William Grant, Master of the Rolls. The note
went on to say that the writer believed all Sir
William's relatives would be dead, and that the
information wanted could only be got from family
Bibles or documentary evidence. I write to say
that my uncle, Brigade-Surgeon Grant, Inverness,
is Sir William's nephew, and either he or I will
be pleased to communicate information. There is
an account of Sir William's official life in vol. ii. of
* Lives of Eminent Statesmen,' by Lord Brougham.
ALAN C. GRANT CAMERON,
H.M. Geological Survey.
Bedford.
HERTFORD STREET, MAYFAIR (8th S. xi. 47, 94).
— This street was probably built about the year
1740, as it is not entered in the Parish Clerks'
1 New Remarks,' 1732, nor in Maitland's ' His-
tory,' 1739, while in Rocque's survey it appears as
"Harford Street." It is evident, therefore, that
the name of Garrick Street was a brief assumption
during the vogue of the great actor, and that it
did not possess sufficient vitality to oust the
original appellation. The dramatic associations
of the street were maintained by the residence
there of General Bargoyne and Richard Brinsley
Sheridan. W. F. PRIDEAUX.
Kingsland, Shrewsbury.
HERALDIC SUPPORTERS OP ENGLISH SOVE-
REIGNS (8to S. ix. 228, 477 ; xi. 81).— Most of the
"authorities" above quoted (Dr. Woodward's
invaluable work being, of course, excepted) can
hardly be considered as having any " authority "
whatever. In a work entitled * Regal Heraldry,'
by the well-known Thomas Willement (London,
4 to., 1821), there is an authentic account of the
arms and supporters of the kings and queens of
England (" from coeval authorities "), being those
actually used by them, with engravings of the
same. Notice of this work should certainly be
here inserted. G. E. C.
After perusing the note on the above subject
by MR. UDAL, I was surprised to find that
two excellent works had not been quoted — ' The
Glossary of Terms used in Heraldry,' published
by J. H. Parker, 1847, which contains the same
supporters that are given by him, except some of
the doubtful ones, and ' The Armorial Insignia of
the Kings and Queens of England,' by Thomas
Willement, London, 1821, which has a shorter list,
but gives an exhaustive account of those mentioned.
Some interesting information of the arms and
supporters of James I., and contentions between
the English and the Scotch respecting the proper
side of the shield for the unicorn, will be found in
'The Law and Practice of Heraldry in Scotland,'
by George Seton, 1863, pp. 423-46. If the note
is intended to be of use to the readers of ' N. & Q.,'
it is to be regretted that the tinctures were not
added, and the works given from which the doubt-
ful supporters were compiled.
JOHN RADCLIFFE.
THE GROSVENOR, EAST INDIAMAN (8th S. x.
515; xi. 73, 132). — I thank the correspondents who
have enabled me to obtain the particulars I sought
concerning this vessel. I am a little astonished at
the unexpected results of a query occupying four
lines. MR. THOMAS inquires my object. Well,
I wished, as the query indicated, for particulars
concerning some one said to have been a passenger.
This information was sought for a literary purpose,
and not in idle curiosity. Apropos of the same
subject, MR. MASON writes concerning waste of
space in ' N. & Q.' I endeavour not to waste it,
and would ask, in the friendliest and least con-
troversial spirit, whether MR. MASON'S own re-
marks are so pertinent and essential as wholly to
escape his own censure. H. T.
A QUOTATION OF DICKENS' s (8th S. xf. 107). —
Thomas Moore was the " traveller of honoured
name," and these are his lines : —
Oh ! but for such Columbia's days were done ;
Rank without ripeness, quickened without sun,
Crude at the surface, rotten at the core,
Her fruits would fall before her spring was o'er !
' To the Honourable W. R. Spencer from
Buffalo upon Lake Erie.'
E. YARDLEY.
SHRINE OF ST. CDTHBERT (8th S. x. 494 ; xi.
94). — I meant that the last year in Raine' s list?
(' St. Cuthbert,' 116) with a sum of money attached
to it is "1488-9, 4Z. 19s. 9d" Then follows
"1513-4" without any sum. On p. 167, Raine
says : —
"1513-4. In this year, aa I have already stated!
(p. 116-7), the box of St. Cuthbert was found empty.
That of St. John Warton, in Elvet Church, produced
16d. (read I5d.) ; and there are the two following
charges : To Sir John Forster, for carrying the banner
of St. Cuthbert, IQd. For repairing the banner of St.
Cuthbert, 13s. 4<2."
I did not quote 1513-14 as having any mention
of offerings attached to it ; I only gave that date
in my quotation from Raine, in connexion with
which I said that the doctor might have found in
the roll of that year, besides the blank upon which
he founded a presumption, many others, arising
from the fact that the roll has never been finished ;
it proves nothing either way as to whether the
offerings were falling off or not. The later rolls to
which I referred were unknown to Dr. Raine and
therefore tD Archbishop Eyre ; these and many
others have been found since they wrote. I find
nothing about St. John Warton in Archbishop
Eyre's work (ed. 1849) ; his tomb and pix, or box,
8th S. XI. FEB. 20, '87.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
157
for offerings were in St. Oswald's Church, and we
know of no connexion between him and the shrine
of St. Cuthbert farther than that the offerings at
his tomb are regularly entered in the Feretrar's
Rolls from 1457 to 1537. We know absolutely
nothing more with regard to " St. John Warton "
here in Durham. Can any one enlighten us ?
J. T. F.
Bp. Hatfield's Hall, Durham.
PORTRAIT OF LADY NELSON (8tb S. ix. 446,
517; x. 179, 257, 305, 342, 439, 501,)— In a
letter received some little time since from Capt.
A. T. Mahan, U.S.N., thanking me for some
notes concerning Lady Nelson's family and his-
tory, he tells me that he has information of two
portraits of her taken in old age. Messrs. Mac-
millan announce that Capt. Mahan's ' Life of
Nelson ' will be published in March, so that we
may then hope to obtain some authentic informa-
tion on the subject of Lady Nelson's portrait. The
present Earl Nelson writes that he neither pos-
sesses nor knows of any portrait of the lady in
question.
There would appear to be some uncertainty as
to the spelling of the name Nisbet or Nisbett.
[ have copies (made for me from the originals by
Mr. T. Graham Briggs, of Saddle Hill, Nevis, in
1881) of Lady Nelson's first and second marriage
certificates, and also of the inscription on the
tablet in St. John's Church, Figtree, Nevis,
erected by her to the memory of her parents. In
all of these the name of her first husband is given
as "Nisbett." Note also the announcement in
a local newspaper of her son's marriage : —
" 1819, March 31. Thin morning Capt. Josiah Nisbett,
Royal Navy, to Frances Herbert, fourth daughter of
Herbert Evans, Esq., of Eagle's Bush and Kilvey Mount,
in the co. of Glamorgan, S. Wales." — Trewmans flying
Post.
The young lady was goddaughter and companion
to Lady Nelson, and the marriage is said to have
taken place secretly at Littleham, where only
eleven years later Josiah and three of his children
were buried. Both on their tomb and on the
cenotaph within the church the name appears as
Nisbet; and on the tablet in the church at
Stratford-Sub-Castle, near Salisbury, to Lady
Nelson's first husband, who died and was buried
there, we read : —
" Joaiah Nisbet M.D. | of the Island of Nevis ; I Born
h August, 1747, died 5th October, 1781. | This Monument
was Erected to his Memory | by his affectionate Wife I
Frances Nisbet."
" Item. I give and bequeath unto Fanny Woollward
for ever daughter of William Woollward a Negro Man
named Cato."
And we ourselves possess old deeds and certificates
in which our name is spelt indifferently Wollard,
Woollard, Woollward, Wolward, and Woolward.
Lady Nelson, I may mention, was first cousin to
my grandfather. EVELYN M. WOOLWARD.
WAYZGOOSE (6th S. iv. 80 ; 7th S. x. 187, 233, 373 ;
xi.34; 8tbS.x.432,483; xi.30).— Bailey (ed. 1731)
has " Wayzgoose, a Stubble Goose." 1 believe that
Bailey has gone wrong here. This seems probable
for the following reasons : (1) I cannot find that the
word wayz-goose occurs in any text before Bailey's
time, or in any literature after 1730, except as evi-
dently due to Bailey's definition ; (2) I can find
no evidence that the word ivayz-goose was ever
used by any unsophisticated rustic in any district
in the United Kingdom as the name for a stubble
goose ; (3) I can find no evidence that wayz ever
meant stubble in any English dialect, or in any
dialect of any Germanic language on the Con-
tinent. I therefore now ask any of your corre-
spondents who may be interested in the history
of English words to send me, if possible, (1) a
quotation for ivayz-goose from some text ; or (2)
trustworthy evidence of the use of the word in
any district of the United Kingdom ; or (3) prooi'
that wayz ever meant stubble.
A. L. MAYHEW.
Oxford.
"NoN SINE PULVBRB" (8tb S. xi. 108), —
John Albert Bengel, in his ' Gnomon Novi Testa-
menti,' makes a quaint application of the phrase
"non sine pulvere." He is commenting on the
parable of the lost piece of silver, St. Luke xv.
8-10, and on the words " and sweep the house
and seek diligently till she find it" he says, "Id
non fit sine pulvere" (edition Tubingse, 1742,
small 4to. p. 258), a very suggestive note which
Archbishop Trench fully developes in his famous
book on the parables.
W. SPARROW SIMPSON.
The same lack of uniformity would, therefore,
seem to prevail in the spelling of Lady Nelson's
first) married name as certainly does in the case
of her maiden name. On the tablet at Nevis she
spells her father's name Woolward, but there is an
amusing bequest to her as a girl from Thomas
Williams, of Saddle Hill, Nevis :—
CLEMENTINA JOHANNES SOBIESBY DOUGLASS
(8th S. xi. 66, 110).— The rising of the '45 left
many waifs and strays up and down the north of
England. One of these was Charles Douglas,
fourth and last Lord Mordington, a title to which
he succeeded in 1741, but did not assume, it being
a mere barren title without endowment. Charles
Douglas was one of the 127 prisoners against
whom true bills were found by the grand jury at
Carlislein August,l746 before the Special Commis-
sion issued to try those concerned in the '45, He
claimed to be tried by his peers, and his plea was,
after argument, allowed. He seems to have been
forgotten ; he died in Carlisle in 1755, and his
burial is recorded in the register of St. Cuthbert's
Church in that city. He had two sisters, neither
158
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[8«» S. XI. FEB. 20, '97.
called Clementina Johannes Sobiesky ; he was
never married, but he may have had some
irregular connexion of that name, mistress or
daughter, who joined him at Carlisle, and after his
death in 1755 settled at Waterside in the parish
of Finsthwaite, the inducement in all probability
being economy rather than the beauty of the Lake
scenery. This, of course, is merely a conjecture.
Many queer waifs and strays must have come
out of Carlisle in the twenty years following the
'45, as the Government sent up there numbers of
French prisoners, the last batch being those taken
in Thurot's squadron in 1760 in the action off the
Isle of Man. Many of these settled in the North
as fencing masters, dancing masters, teachers of
cookery, medical practitioners. The registers
show that they had women with them.
RICHARD S. FERGUSON.
THE PRONOUN "SHE "(8th S. xi. 48, 116;.—
My present view of this word is this. The fern,
sing, of the def. pronoun in old Icelandic was sjd,
fern, of «d. I think the Northumbrian sho or scho
may easily have arisen from this ; for sj, pronounced
as syj necessarily passes into sh, and the Icel. a
became 0 in M.E. Cf. the form fro (Icel. /ra),
which occurs as early as in ' Horn ' and ' Havelok.'
After this, continual association of this Northern
sho with the masculine he, and comparison of the
same with the Southern heo, gradually turned
sho into sheo (of which examples are found) and
she. It seems all to have taken place in due
course. WALTER W. SKEAT.
MR. JAMES PL ATI'S words, to which your
correspondent refers, are, "Another and even
more important example of the change in English
is that of the Anglo-Saxon pronoun heo to the
modern she." This is a bold statement, and, so
far as I know, incapable of proof. Heo still
survives in Lancashire in the form of hoo, whereas
in other parts of the country she in some form or
other is used, the origin of which is not the same
as that of heo, which is the feminine form of he,
whilst she is from the feminine form of the A.-S. se.
This is what Dr. R. Morris says in his * Historical
Outlines of English Accidence,' 1873, p. 120 :—
"She, in the twelfth century, in the Northern dialects
replaced the old form keo. The earliest instance of
its use is found in the ' A.-Sax. Chronicle ' [11401 After
all, it is only the substitution of one demonstrative for
another, for the is the feminine of the definite article
which m O.E. was seo or ria; from the latter of these
probably comes she."
F. 0. BIRKBECK- TERRY.
THE USE OF HOLT WATER IN THE ANGLICAN
CHURCH (8* S. xi. 85). -M*. F. T. HIBGAME says
that the introduced use of " the Asperges " at St
Alban's, Holborn, " is identical with that at the
Pro-Cathedral and at every other Catholic church
when High Mass is celebrated." I presume,
however, that at St. Alban's the language used
in the rite is English, and not, as in Catholic
churches, Latin. There are, however, two modes
of conducting this Sunday ceremonial. In the
more common method, the priest and attendants
go down the central aisle, and return, sprinkling
the holy water on the people right and left. It is
obvious that comparatively few members of the
congregation can really be sprinkled at all ; while
I have heard of people, especially well-dressed
women, who are near enough to receive the
sprinkled water, complain of being thus drenched,
more especially if the officiant is lavish in his use
of the element. The other method, sometimes
found, is for the priest to go as far as the entrance
to choir or sanctuary only, and then scatter the
water in the centre and right and left, pretty
much in the same way as incense is offered to the
people at High Mass at the offertory, or at the
Magnificat at Vespers. Writing under correction,
I believe that this latter simpler method is that
which has the approval of the Congregation of
Rites. Which mode is sanctioned by the Bishop
of London I am unable to say.
GEORGE ANGUS.
St. Andrew?, N.B.
St. Alban's, Holborn, is certainly not the first
church of the Anglican obedience to have revived
the ceremony of " Asperges " before High Mass.
I witnessed this ceremony myself at St. Michael's,
Shoreditch, about five years ago. I believe also
that it was at one time in vogue at the Hospital
Chapel of SS. Mary and Thomas, Ilford, Essex.
The use of holy water in Anglican churches is not
at all uncommon in these days. I remember
reading (some fifteen years ago) an account in the
Church Times of the blessing of an Anglican con-
vent by a Scottish bishop who used holy water.
I also saw the rood, &c., at St. Alban's, Holborn,
sprinkled with holy water three or four years ago.
At St. Cuthbert's, Earl's Court, there are stoups
for holy water at the entrances to the church. I
saw it used on Holy Saturday, 1894, at St. Mark's,
Marylebone, in connexion with the Blessing of Fire,
Paschal Candle, &c. I believe this church may
claim to be the first to have restored (according to
the use of Sarum) the " Mass of the Presancti-
fied" with Easter Sepulchre, Deposition of the
Cross, &c. W. SANCROFT RANDALL.
17, Wellington Road, Old Charlton.
I think MR. HIBGAME is wrong in supposing
that St. Alban's has established a record by using
holy water. But I do not know whether the use
has before been made with BO much of public
ceremonial. EDWARD H. MARSHALL, M.A.
^ MOSES HORTON, MINIATURE PAINTER (8th S.
xi. 49). — I have seen him described as of Birming-
ham, and the name spelt Haughton. His son
Matthew was also a painter and engraver.
A. T. M.
8th S. XI. FEB. 20, '97.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
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NOTES ON BOOKS, &c.
The History of Don Quixote of the Mancha. Translated
from the Spanish by Thomas Shelton. With Intro-
duction by James Fitzmaurice-Kelly. Vols. III. and
IV. (Nutt.)
A PEW months ago (8th S. ix. 519) we congratulated the
student of Tudor literature upon the appearance of the
first two volumes of Shelton'a amusing and Rabelaisian
translation of ' Don Quixote.' To an accidental irregu-
larity it is due that the concluding portion of the
work is not noticed in the same volume as the opening.
Somewhat tardily, then, we congratulate the subscribers
to the "Tudor Translations" upon the possession of the
whole work. An introduction by Mr Fitzmaurice-Kelly
to the second part is neither less instructive nor less
humorous than that to the opening part. Shelton is
congratulated upon his "intrepidity," his " fine careless-
ness," his "bruial disdain" of an idiom, and upon his
idiosyncrasies generally. Shelton's excellences even are
" victories of bright and faithful audacity " over which
"our modern prudery draws a veil." Cervantes himself
denounces translators. To his translators, however,
Mr. Kelly holds he owes a debt, bidding us " consider a
moment the diminution of Cervantes's fame were his gay
melancholy book to be read solely in Spanish." Most of
all, it is held, is he indebted to " Shelton, lord of the
Golden Elizabethan speech, accomplished artificer in
style, first of foreigners to hail him for the master that
he was, first to present him— and that with the grand
air — to the company of the universal world." In read-
ing this second part we are now and then reminded of
Shakspeare. Compare, for instance, the affection of
Sancho Panza for his ass with that of Launce for his
dog, and the punishment each vicariously receives for
the beloved animal. Compare, again, Launce's praise
of his sister, " She 's as white as a lily and as small as a
wand," with Sancho's declaration concerning the daughter
he is bringing up to be a countess, " She is as long as a
lance, and as fresh as an April morning." No passage
from the original shows Shelton to more advantage than
the benediction upon the inventor of sleep. Among his
delightfully na'ive comments upon the text with which
he deals is one upon the portion of Don Quixote's advice
to Sancho Panza concerning the government of his island,
wherein the future magistrate is counselled, " Him that
thou must punish with deeds, revile not with words,
since to a wretch the punishment is sufficient without
adding ill language. Shelton's marginal comment on
this is " A good Item to our ludges of the Common Law,"
suggesting, perhaps, that he had had some experience
of their tendency to add "insult to injury." Very
welcome is this second instalment, and we earnestly
counsel our readers to scrape or renew acquaintance with
Cervantes's masterpiece in the pleasautest and most
characteristic guise.
The County Histories of Scotland. — Dumfries and Gal-
loway. By Sir Herbert Maxwell, Bart. (Blackwood
& Sons.)
THE author of this volume would be the last person to
claim for it the position of a great county history;
indeed in the preface he speaks of it in a way that pre-
cludes the idea of its being considered as u.ore than a
summary of the history of the two counties. We suppose
there is a demand for these compressed brief histories.
People want to know a certain amount about the neigh-
bourhood in which they live; they wish to acquire a
limited number of facts and details; and, above all things,
they are anxious that there should be no mistakes— there
must be as nearly absolute accuracy as it is possible for
finite man to attain unto. When this highly concentrated
form of mental food has been, with infinite pains and
care, provided for them, the public will, as a rule take
sufficient of it to justify the publisher in entering' upon
such an undertaking as the present. Sir Herbert Maxwell
has done his best to make the volume before us attractive
to those for whom it is intended. It is clear, well written
severely compressed, and is furnished with the best maps
of the district we have ever seen upon such a scale. We
trust that at some future time Sir Herbert will give us a
companion volume to this, which shall deal with the
legendary aspect of the two counties. A book of this kind
would perhaps not be bought by the persons who appre-
ciate the volume before us, but it would be of infinite
interest to all of us who care for the folk-speech, legends
traditions, and ballad-lore of the land.
The Cathedral Church of St. Asaph. By B. P. Ironside
Bax. (Bournemouth, Commin.)
MR. BAX began the humbler tesk of writing a guide-book
to the cathedral of St. Asaph; but as the work grew
under his hands it turned out a history — " urceus coepit
institui, amphora exit" — though it may be doubted
whether a modicum of eighty-five pages, all told, deserves
the more ambitious title. He has made diligent research
among all the available material in tracing the growth
of the fabric, and supplies brief notices of its monuments,
relics, and books, and some account of the men of mark
who from time to time have been numbered among its
bishops and deans. Amongst the most eminent of these
were Geoffrey of Monmouth, Reginald Peacock, Barrow
Lloyd, Beveridge, Tanner, and Horsley. More care migh'c
well have been bestowed in copying some of the inscrip-
tions given. Four, if not five, blunders may be detected
in the three lines of Latin from Bishop Barrow's tomb.
If the account Mr. Bax gives of the disappearance of
this brass be correct— that it was sent to London to be
produced as evidence in the Arches Court in a trial
respecting the legality of prayers for the dead, and was
never returned !-it is highly discreditable to all con-
cerned. Another curious fact here brought into notice is
that Sir Philip Sidney, when only ten years old, was " a
clerk in Holy Orders [?] and Rector of Whitford,'" in this
diocese. The book is illustrated and nicely printed.
THE most noteworthy article in the current number of
the Quarterly Review is upon Gibbon. The writer of it
is not carried away, as many people seem to have
been, by the discovery that in some respects Lord
Sheffield's conception of the historian was faulty. No
doubt there are some littlenesses come to light that we
knew nought of; but, on the whole, from the point of
view of the historian and writer. Gibbon remains much
where he was, and this the reviewer in the Quarterly
fully enters into. There is nothing now published which
in any way modifies our feelings as regards Gibbon's
attitude towards Christianity. He was unfair to it when
he was in a position where he ought to have been able
to realize his own unfairness; but at the same time, no
reasonable person can doubt that what he said was said in
all honesty. It still remains a matter of wonder that such
work as Gibbon did was done at such a time and under
such circumstances. One cannot help wishing that he
could have lived a few years longer, it only to have seen
what was the logical outcome of the events in France of
which he had witnessed the earlier stages during their
progress. We scarcely think that this number of the
Quarterly is so good as usual. One or two of the articles
seem rather like padding, notably those upon ' Fathers
of Literary Impressionism in England ' and Eighteenth
Century Reminiscences.' There is, however, an excellent
paper on * Educational Fads.' We only wish we could
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think that it will produce any good effect on those who
are given over to these harmful forms of superstition.
WK think that most people will be inclined when they
read the current number of the Edinburgh Review to
turn first of all to « Forty-one Years in India.' Next to
reading Lord Roberts's book for oneself we cannot think
it possible that a better or clearer account of not only
the book, but India of the time, could be given. Che
writer of the review is mainly in agreement with the
author throughout, and he does full justice to the
dramatic portion of the narrative as well as to those
parts of it which deal with what we may expect the
near future in our Indian empire to produce. Especially
does the writer agree with Lord Roberts in his view of the
necessity of our keeping a large European force always
in the country. The native army is a fine army, very
useful, and a very wonderful production, viewed from a
certain standpoint ; but we certainly agree with Lord
Roberts and the writer in the Edinburgh when they
urge the imperative duty of not allowing it ever to
become possible that this native army should be the
strongest armed force in the country. We have armed,
drilled, and taught these native soldiers all the mysteries
of European warfare ; they know, so far as teaching can
make men of such races know, as much as we do relating
to warfare, and it is for us to take the precautions neces-
sary to prevent this knowledge being used in such a
manner as to be harmful to us. No great native leader
arose at the time of the Mutiny, but it might not always
be so; and should a great military genius come to the
front in any such conflict, the events that followed
might be even more fatal than they were in the Mutiny.
There is an exhaustive account of Father Gerard's
' What was the Gunpowder Plot ? ' which will be of
much interest to all students of seventeenth century
history ; but we have not the space at our disposal to
deal with such a subject. The writer of the review,
while giving Father Gerard all credit for a masterly and
brilliant attempt to disprove the reality of the Plot, yet
holds that he has failed to do so, though he goes so far
as to say that it, " on a careless or hasty perusal, carries
with it a bewildering conviction." 'Rooks and their
Ways ' is the title of a paper which all bird-lovers ought
to read. It points out the fact — which, so far as we are
aware, seems to be very little understood by most writers
—that when "crows" are spoken of in many parts of
England it is the ordinary rook that is so designated,
not the carrion crow. In Lincolnshire, though people
speak of a rookery, its inhabitants are always called
" crows" by the country people, and the carrion crow is
known as the " ket craw." There is the inevitable article
upon William Morris, with which we are in agreement
to some extent. Morris let his political and social sym-
pathies influence him, and was apt to eee little or no
beauty unless it was produced by the people for the
people, irrespective of any other consideration. There
are several other articles of general interest in this
number of the Edinburgh.
MR. GAIRDNER gives us yet another instalment of his
' New Lights on the Divorce of Henry VIII.' in the
English Historical Review for January. We have had
occasion to point out before the nature of this contri-
bution to our historical knowledge, and we must again
say that it is by far the most important feature in a
magazine distinguished by the interest and accuracy of
its articles. The more light that we get upon the
character of Henry the darker do some of his methods
appear. There can be no doubt that he applied to the
Pope for a dispensation to allow his son, the Duke of
Richmond, to marry hia daughter, the Princess Mary,
the duke'a hall-sister; and Mr. Gakdner also convinces
us that had the pressure brought to bear upon Katha-
rine to retire into a convent proved strong enough to
induce the unhappy queen to take such a step, Henry
was then prepared, in case the divorce was refused by
Rome, to demand a dispensation to commit bigamy.
Truly the king who threw off the yoke of Rome seemed
to have held exaggerated views as to the powers vested
in the Holy See. We shall await with interest further
' New Lights' on this subject from Mr. Gairdner. There
is a paper which should be read attentively by all who
are interested in naval matters, by Mr. J. R. Tanner,
on ' The Administration of the Navy from the Restora-
tion to the Revolution.' Though not of such widespread
and far-reaching interest as the articles upon Henry
VIII., it contains an immense amount of information,
and it must have taken considerable labour to have
amalgamated all the details into a whole sufficiently
clear to be understood and appreciated by non-naval
readers. Space forbids our mentioning any other papers
in the magazine at length, but the number is quite up to
the usual high standard of this publication.
WE hear with much regret of the death, in his eighty-
ninth year, of Prof. Charles Tomlinson, F.R.S., during
many years an assiduous contributor to ' N. & Q.' A man
of varied scientific and literary information, he was a
member of many learned societies, a lecturer in experi-
mental science at King's College, held the Dante lecture-
ship at University College, 1887-9, and was examiner in
physics to the Birkbeck institution. He translated into
terza rima the ' Inferno ' of Dante, and into English
hexameters the ' Herman and Dorothea' of Goethe, wrote
lives of Linneus, Cuvier, and Smeaton, and many other
works. His latest contribution to our columns appeared
so recently as October last (8th S. x. 323). Prof. Tom-
linson died at his residence in Highgate.
THE topographical section of the "Gentleman's
Magazine Library" is gradually drawing to a close,
under the editorship of Messrs. G. L. Gomme and
F. A. Milne. The next volume, which will be issued
very shortly, will contain the counties of Nottingham,
Oxford, and Rutland.
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NOTES :—" Eye-Rhymes," 161— Home Tooke's Diary, 162—
" Lanthorn," 163— Pope— Epitaph— ' Eicon Basilice,' 164—
Chinese Folk-lore— Mode of Beady Reference— Neil Douglas
— Wart-curing. 165 — " Hengmand": "Hangment" —
Wesley MSS.— Papal Bull— ' Dictionary of National Bio-
graphy'— Harsnett, 166.
QUERIES :— St. Saviour's, Southwark— Peter Fin— "Hand-
maid" -" Hand-chair " — Littlecot Tragedy — Pirates —
Hoyles— Porson, 167— ' The Synagogue '—Baron Robartes
—Satyrs' Ears— Ugo Bassi's Sermon on the Vine— Owen
Brigstocke — Classon — Eagleson — Walter Hervey — Farn-
worth Grammar School — " Gomer had it " — Clock — " Tom
Pugh "— " Cast for death,'" 168— Incident in Sicily—' Old
Mortality '—Authors Wanted, 169.
REPLIES :— Sir Franc van Halen, 169— British, 170— Bois-
seau— Tapestries — Buriis's Friend Nicol, 171 — Lundy—
Shakspeare and Emblem Literature — Beau.joie — "Arsg-
verse "—Hole— Pigeons representing Departing Souls, 172
—Gingham — "Rarely," 173 — Arabic Star Names — High
Water— " Li maisie hierlekin" — Bishops' Wigs, 174— In-
scription—Coin — " Feer and Flet "— " Dear knows"— Old
Arminghall, 175—' Middlemarch ' — St. Distaff's Day — Rev.
T. L. Soley — "Dymocked" -Robert Hales— A Literary
Blunder, 176 — Pope Joan — Princess Mathilde Bonaparte —
"Round Robin"— Potatoes, 177 — Juxon Medal— Col. H.
Martin— Licenses to Emigrate— St. John Baptist's Abbey
— Everle : Gysburne— " Gert "=^Great— Medals for Battle
of Nile-Rachel de la Pole, 178.
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Notices to Correspondents,
"EYE-RHYMES" IN THE POEMS OP SURREY
AND WYATT.
In Ellis's ' Early English Pronunciation,' pt. iii.
p. 863, under the heading, " Unusual Spellings
and Forms for Appearance of Rhymes," there is a
long list of words whose spelling has been de-
liberately altered by Spenser ; in some cases to
manufacture a rhyme where under ordinary circum-
stances none existed, in others merely to give to the
eye a harmony of form when the sounds were already
true rhymes. Mr. Ellis has, however, omitted to
mention, first, that this device had already been
resorted to both by Surrey and Wyatt in their
poems which appeared in Tottel's 'Miscellany';
and, secondly, that the practice was actually re-
commended by Puttenham in the ' Arte of Poesie,'
" in all such cases (if necessitie constraineth). "
I have noted the following examples of altered
spelling in Surrey and Wyatt (Tottel's * Miscel-
lany,' Arber's English Reprints, Constable, 1895).
In Surrey : Payn, playn (p. 1), bost, most (p. 4),
sene, grene, tene (p. 4), small, reall (p. 4), ronne,
begonne (p. 5), wurkes, lurkes (p. 6), desyre, yre
(p. 9), payne, agayne (p. 21), raine, paine (p. 24).
In Wyatt : Hert, desert (p. 58), desart, part
(pp. 72 and 78).
On the other hand, Surrey has plain, pain
(p. 18), fire, desire (p. 25), raine, paine (p. 24) ;
hartes, dartes (p. 71). The first edition of the
* Miscellany ' appeared in 1557.
In spite of the licence which these poets allowed
themselves in making eye-rhymes, they did not
consistently alter the spelling for this purpose, for
Surrey writes desire, myre (p. 23), avayl, bewail
(pp. 29 and 30), plain, reign (p. 26), eyes, twise
(p. 34), nyght, shright (p. 38), and faine, obtain
(p. 41) ; while Wyatt has her, fier (p. 73), and
prayer, desire (ibid.). Both Surrey and Wyatt
have rhymes like delight (for d elite), night (p. 13),
plight, despight (p. 17), night, spight (p. 21), and
knight, delight (p. 48). This class (the -ite, -ight)
of rhymes contains the majority of Spenser's altered
spellings, and we find spellings like bight and
quight on nearly every page of the * Faery Queene.'
The most interesting point in all this is, however,
the apparent connexion between these altered
spellings and the passage which occurs in Putten-
ham's 'Arte of Poesie' (1589), liber ii. chap. viii.
(ix.), pp. 94-5, Arber's edition :—
' Now there cannot be in a maker a fowler fault, then
to falsifie his accent to serve his cadence, or by untrue
orthographic to wrench his words to serve his rime, for
it is a signe that such a maker is not copious in his owne
language, or (as they were wont to say) not halfe his
crafts maister, as for example, if one should rime to this
word (Restore) he may not match him with (Doore) or
(Poore) for neither of both are of like terminant, either
by good orthography, or in naturall sound neverthe-
lesse in all such cases (if necessitie conatraineth) it is
somewhat more tollerable to help the rime by false
orthographic, then to have an unpleasant dissonance to
the case by keeping trewe orthography and losing the
rime, as for example, it is better to rime (Dore) with
(Restore) then in his trewer orthographic, which is
(Doore) and to this word (Desire) to say (Fier) then fyre
though it be otherwise better written fire."
It is amusing to note in this passage upon " true
orthography " that both words are written in two
different ways ; it is also interesting to observe
the candid expression of the fallacy that words
differently spelt cannot rhyme together. After
all, the critics who nowadays fall foul of rhymes
like palm, arm, bora, dawn, and so on, in con-
temporary verse, cannot be expected to be wiser
than their fathers, and are probably content to err
in good company.
From what Puttenbam says of the merits of
Surrey and Wyatt ('Arte of Poesie,' liber i.
chap. xxxi. pp. 74 and 76, Arber's edition), it seems
probable that he would base his canons of the
poetic art largely upon the work of these "first
reformers of our English meetre and stile "; " the
two chief lanternes of light to all others that have
since employed their pennes upon English Poesie."
In fact, Puttenham may have written the passage
upon rhyme already quoted partly to justify the
offences of these poets against "trewe ortho-
graphic."
This conclusion, in any case, seems inevitable :
and Wyatt has hart, smart (pp, 53 and 66), and that Puttenham's contemporary Spenser indulged
162
NOTES AND QUERIES. cs* s. xi. FEB. 27, -97.
in spellings like quight, bight, &c., when "neces-
sitie constrainetb," in accordance with ideas upon
rhyme similar to those of the first great English
poetical critic. HY. CECIL WYLD.
Corpus Christi College, Oxford.
HOENE TOOKB'S DIARY.
(Concluded from p. 104.)
Sunday, Aug. 10. Saw Mrs. Bonney, Miss Johnson, &
Mr*. Tomkirison the Walks.
Friday, Aug. 15. Mrs. Kyd stood under my window.
"How do you do, madam]" "Very indifferently, not
well at all." Mr. Wallace stepped forwards & said
" This must not be suffered," & sent her off the leads.
I learn from Mr. Kyd that attempts have been made to
suborn witnesses against me. And from the best authority
(the persons themselves) I know the wicked means em-
ployed by Reeves & Dundas with persons examined
before the Privy Council. I defy them & their false-
hood.
Saturday, Aug. 16. Col. Kelly with his wife, walked
on broad walk, in company with Mr. Stiles (comissr of
Customs) & his wife & other ladies & gentlemen. I took
Weston by the hand, availing myself of the order, which
only forbids talking.
Dr. Darwin in his Zoonomia, Dr. Vincent in his Greek
Verb, Dr. Bedoea. Bold men to praise me at this time.
Monday, Aug. 18. Dr. Pearson visited me. Read to
me a part of his Paper for transactions of Royal Society,
which he corrected with me.
Tuesday, Aug. 19. Militia Bill. Discontent in London.
Wednesday, August 20. Troops sent out of Tower.
Crimp's house in Shoe Lane, &c., &c.
Thursday, August 21, 1794. Dr. Pearson visited me, &
finished reading his dissertation for Royal Society's
Transactions. He told me some months ago that a
gentleman at Kensington brought him a paper re-
lative to my complaint, which that gentleman received
from one who felt very much for my situation, but he
would not tell Dr. Pearson the name of the gender. This
day Dr. Pearson tells me that the person who sent these
professions of respect and affection, witb the paper, was
.Mr. Wilkes. About 300 men in 4 Piquets marched at
different times of the day out of the Tower to patrole
the streets. Not less than nine large concourses of people
in nine different parts of the town this day, on the
crimp account as 1 learn from Dr. Pearson and Mrs.
Mould's sister who saw them, h Past 10 at night, I
am told by Mould, the warder, that the people have
thrown bricks, tiles and jugs from top of houses on the
London horse association, and on. the soldiers. And
another Piquet is now marching from the Tower.
Friday, August 22, 1794. Mr. Clive visited me Mrs.
Tuffin sent me 1 dozen of fine madeira and 1 doz. old
Hock.
Saturday, August 23. Kinghorn & Wallace come to me
and tell me that the Colonel (who is just gone, I think
they said Col. Frazer) and adjutant Brice, had com-
plained to the Governour, that the prisoners sat and
talked together : that therefore the Governour ordered,
that the prisoners should retire from the walks at sun-
set, and should not be permitted to speak to each other.
I refused to receive any orders but from the Governour
either by his own words spoken by himself or written,
and I desired Kinghorn to give my compliments to the
Governour, and to tell him I desired to speak to him ;
having now been a quarter of a year and a week a close
prisoner and not having seen the Governour since the
first day.
Sunday, Aug. 24, At 11 o'clock the Deputy Lieut.
Governour, Col. Yorke, visited me. He repeated his kind
expressions & I believe his wishes to behave honourably
are sincere.
H. Tooke detailed his grievances at some length
to the colonel, who was conciliatory, and " did not
wish to aggravate the (prisoners') confinement, but
feared the Warders might complain of him to Lord
Cornwallis, the Lieut.-Governour."
Monday, Aug. 25. New order. Mr. Wallace alone ia
to carry newspapers ! Mr. Gruaz onuses to read them !
An order stuck up in my room signed L. Gruaz, Yeoman
Porter. N.B. Gruaz is a frenchman or Swiss, was ser-
vant to Earl Shipbrook, brother of Gen1 Vernon ; and
has done duty only 4 years ; and has of his own authority
assumed to give orders, & afterwards imposed on the
Deputy Lieut, to give his sanction.
Saturday, A»g. 30. By Governour's permission Mr.
Clive visited Mr. Hardy whose wife died on Thursday
morning last.
Thursday, Sep. 4. Mr. Clive gave me a brace of
partridges which I gave to Kinghorn.
Wednesday, Sep. 10, 1794.
Under this date is the substance of a letter from
Tooke to Mr. and Mrs. Macnamara, thanking them
for visiting his daughters, &c. He concludes thus :
"Mr. Macnamara's friendship for Mr. H. T. need
not give Mr. Macnamara any uneasiness : for H. T.
has never done an action, nor uttered a word, nor
written a single sentence, nor harboured a thought,
of an important political nature, which (taken with
all its circumstances of time, place, & occasion) he
wishes either recalled or concealed." These words
must have sounded familiar to Mr. Macnamara
when a little later they were spoken, almost as they
occur here, by Tooke at his trial, at which Mr.
Macnamara was present and gave evidence for the
defence.
Saturday, Sep. 13. The Deputy Lieut. Gov* is gone
(they say) for a week. Gruaz insulted Mr. Thelwall.
Gruaz told him he was an impertinent fellow. The
Major of the Tower followed, took Thelwall by the arm,
& ordered the Warder at his peril to take care that "that
man should not walk tomorrow, but from ten to four or
five."
Sunday, Sep. 14. The Major of Tower ordered retreat
to be beaten at £ before 6, instead of 20 min. after 6.
The Major has given the centinels strict charge of the
prisoners, telling them that the Warders do not perform
their duty, &c., &c.
Monday, Sep. 15. The Major sent a serjeant to Capt.
Dulling for talking to me.
Wednesday, Sep. 17. Intelligence of a Special Com-
mission with a variety of particular circumstances, all
satisfying me that there is a deep conspiracy for delibe-
rate murder.
Sunday, Sep. 21. Agreed that Mr. Joyce's brother
shall employ Gurney & Ramsey to take down Judge's
charge for Joyce. Bonney, Kyd & H. Tooke.
Friday, Sep. 26. Tom Symonds tells me Mr. Joyce's
brother (told him) that a friend of his, who dined with
Mr. Pitt the day before yesterday, in company with Att.
Gen1 &c.t heard Mr. Pitt say, that they had not been
able to get anything against Mr. Home Tooke.
Monday, Sep. 29. Bateman Warder. Just 2 or 3 days
before Grand Jury. Rumour in papers of a Plot to
assassinate the King. The Villains have timed ihia well,
to destroy whom they please. Mr, Clive (called). Mr.
XI. FEB. 27, '97.]
NOTES AND QUERIES,
163
Tooke's heart smites him at last. I shall be able to pay
my attorney to subpoena my witnesses. My Warder, Bate-
man, is a shocking beast, loaded with nauseous infirmi-
ties. & a most brutal mind & manners. To be stapled
to the floor, without him, would be more tolerable than
his company.
Wednesday, Oct. 1. F wished to speak to me, &
was prevented by Bateman, the Warder.
Thursday, Oct. 2. Privy Council deny Clarkson per-
mission to see me, telling him " it would be time enough
when the bills are found." N.B. The Commissioners go
from Serjeant's Inn at ^ past 9 this morning. Grand
Jury commence.
Friday, Oct. 3. Gave to a corporal for big humanity
to his recruits £1. 1. 0, which I sent (by) the Warder,
Mr. Warner, a hanoverian.
Sunday. Oct. 5. Joyce gave me a copy of Eyre's charge,
taken by Ramsey. Capt. Chivers called to speak to me
in the Tower — grateful young man.
Tuesday, Oct. 7. Notice of Bill found. Clarkson
called. I gave him list of my witnesses to subpoena.
Wednesday, Oct. 8. My nephew John Wildman came
to me this day by permission of the Privy Council.
Clarkson, my solicitor, applied for him last friday, to
assist my preparation by writing for me.
Thursday, Oct. 9. Erskine, Gibbs, Vaughan, & Clark-
aon visited me. I see that I must plead for myself in
person. I learn from Vaughan that Mr. Tooke deposited
with him for me £100, & that Mr. Clive, on Vaughan's
note, advanced to him for me, also £100.
Saturday, Oct. 11. A note from Clarkson, my solicitor,
that the Indictments would be delivered on Monday,
13th, & the Trials commence on Monday 27th of this
month.
Monday, Oct. 13. White served me with copies of In-
dictments & Lists of Witnesses 207, & Jurors 228.
207+228=435. To inquire after 43£ per day, besides
my own witnesses to produce & all other preparations.
Out of 228 Jurors I see 11 honest men.
Thursday, Oct. 23. Erskine & Gibbs are to dine with
me & settle & arrange for my trial tomorrow. They are
to come at i past 3. Mr. Clive came, and at nine at
night, whilst" Mr. Clive & my nephew were with me,
Kinghorn the Jailer, came to lock me up, as usual. Mr.
Clive & my nephew were preparing to depart. Kinghorn
gave me the Governour'e compliments & informed me that
the sheriff would take me tomorrow at eight in the
morning to convey me to Newgate. Short notice for a
removal, especially with my infirmity. By this method,
they embarrass and harrass us just at the moment of
preparing for trial, & interrupt our business. This
rancour is like all that has preceded.
Friday, Oct. 24, 1794. I rose at four, because of my
infirmity that I might be ready at eight for the Sheriff.
I packed up my papers in a trunk ; my things in a box
lent to me by Mrs. Mould. Half past six o'clock — King-
horn tells me that I am to walk through the tower on
foot & there to be delivered to the Sheriff. I desired
my Compliments to the Governor, and my thanks for all
the civilities & indulgences — (small enough God knows) —
which I have received in the Tower, at the same time
(Kinghorn was) to represent to him, that it is wet above &
below, that my gouty feet compel me to wear thin shoes,
being unable to bend a strong sole or strong upper
leather; that it would be cruel just at this moment to
make me catch cold, and thus carry me a dumb man to
my trial ; that there is chance enough of that in the
sudden change of my bed and apartments ; & therefore
to request that I may go in a coach to the Gate of the
tower ; and if it is necessary that I should be delivered
on foot, that I may there descend &• be so delivered. I
expect Governor's answer. He permitted me coach.
We are paraded, with great attendance, slowly throh
St. Paul's Churchyard to Newgate. Thus I lose my
consultation with Erskine & Gibbs. Sheriff very civil.
Saturday, Oct. 25. Arraigned. Received by Wildman,
from Vaughan <£30. Sheriffs very civil.
Tuesday, Oct. 28, 1794. Mr. Clive this evening put
into my hand a Letter which he desired me to read when
he was gone. It contained only 5 tenpound Banknotes,
£50.
[No entry for several days.]
Sunday, Nov. 23. Mr. Clive put into my hand £30.
Wimbledon. Arrived at 3 o'clock P.M.
It will be seen that Home Tooke arrived at
Newgate 24 Oct., where he remained while Hardy's
trial proceeded. His own trial commenced on
Monday, 17 Nov., the judges present being Eyre,
Chief Justice, Macdonald, Hotham, Grose, and
Lawrence. The Attorney and Solicitor General,
with others, prosecuted for the Crown ; Erskine
and Gibbs being assigned as counsel for the accused.
A considerable time was consumed in selecting a
jury, several persons being challenged by the
prisoner and not a few by the Crown, whilst
many pleaded ill health or were found to be dis-
qualified. The number was at length made up,
after the challenges for the Crown had been with-
drawn. Among the witnesses of note called on
Tooke's behalf were Pitt, Fox, and Sheridan, also
Philip Francis, believed by many to be " Junius,"
whose attacks on himself Tooke had, in earlier
days, met and repelled with singular success. The
trial lasted through the week, Chief Justice Eyre,
who presided, displaying conspicuous forbearance
towards the accused, to whom he permitted a lati-
tude in his questions and statements not always,
judging from the reports, accorded to prisoners on
trial for high treason. The verdict of "Not
Guilty " was delivered by the jury, after a con-
sultation of eight minutes only, at 8 o'clock on
Saturday evening, and it would seem that Tooke
returned to his house at Wimbledon on the follow-
ing day. Should any reader wish to peruse the
diary in extenso, he will find the volume containing
it in the Library of the British Museum.
G. J. W.
"LANTHORN." — Fifty years ago printers
believed this to be the right spelling, owing to a
notion which possessed them that the word was a
corruption of lamp-horn. Instances of deliberate
alteration of the correct spelling by printers'
readers, both then and later, are within my own
cognizance ; and there are even now persons out-
side as well as inside printing offices who are
ignorant or forgetful of the orthography. Three
examples of misspelling have come before me in
the last seven weeks — two appearing in proofs of
matter composed at a large printing office, and the
third, I regret to say, in your own pages (8tb S.
xi. 92). I refrain from quoting Horace's hack-
neyed verse about human nature, though the pitch-
fork has no doubt been repeatedly used in your
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columns, At what time the misspelling had its
birth is at present unknown to me. Such dic-
tionaries, in existence before Shakespeare wrote, as
I have consulted have the right spelling, but .
find lanthorn in Shakespeare (' 2 Henry IV.' I. 11.
55), pronounced as written, in jesting association
with "horn of abundance." Bacon also has the
misspelling, and the following quotation from his
' Natural History ' (Century iii., § 224) is re-
markable on account of the seeming catachresis :
"If there were two lanthorns of glass, the one a
crimson, and the other an azure, and a candle within
cither of them, those coloured lights would mingle, and
cast upon a white paper a purple colour."
It is hardly credible that Bacon could have
believed in the absurd etymology, therefore I use
the word "seeming." F.ADAMS.
106A, Albany Road, Camberwell.
THE ORIGIN OF ALEXANDER POPE.— It may
interest your readers to learn the origin of the
family of the poet Alexander Pope. It is curious
that although so many attempts to discover it have
been made — Hunter actually writing a small book
on the subject— no one has hitherto found out the
truth. I have found so much in Pope's preface to
his edition of Shakspere confirmatory of the views
I arrived at, and so utterly opposed to those of the
great Shakspere authorities, that I have deter-
mined to issue a book upon the subject, hoping
that his influence may yet prevail to put a stop to
the shameful publication of 'Pericles,' which is
clearly the work of two men, Gower and Marlowe,
and two separate plays, with no sort of connexion
between them, and which it is as great an abomina-
tion to call Shakspere's as it is to publish it.
Pope unhesitatingly condemns it as spurious, and
his knowledge was infinitely superior to our own.
In gratitude to his memory I am writing an essay
upon him, and naturally I took up the vexed ques-
tion of his genealogy. At first I followed Hunter,
and this led to Fawsley, the alleged birthplace of
Dr. Walter Pope, whom Hunter supposes was his
half-brother. A learned genealogist, the Lady
Knightly of Fawsley, undertook the search, but
could find nothing. I then followed my system,
and, beginning with the grandfather of the poet, the
Rev. Alex. Pope, rector of Thruxton, I found from
Foster's valuable work, 'Alumni Oxonienses/from
the date given at his matriculation, that he was born
in the year 1600, and this material fact, that he
was a Hampshire man. Woodward's ' Hampshire '
shows that the widow of Sir Richard Pope had a
Chancery suit tempe Q. Elizabeth about a house in
Andover; and the Rev. R. P. Braithwaite, the
vicar, has most kindly sent me this information
from the registers. Richard Pope married Elizabeth
Evans 8 Nov., 1589 (I presume the lady who was
the litigant), and they had five children bap-
tized there, the fourth being Alexander, 25 Nov.,
1600. In the first year of James I. Richard Pope
was a churchwarden, and very little research at the
Record Office will now probably produce the history
of the family, and show whether the poet's boast
of an alliance with the Earls of Downe was correct.
PYM YEATMAN.
Lightwoods Cottage, Harborne, near Birmingham.
EPITAPH.— The following poetical effort surely
deserves a corner in ' N. & Q.' It is transcribed
from Hearne, on p. 207 of Burrell MS. 5699, and
is stated there to have been painted formerly on
the inside of the wall of the belfry of Rudgwick
Church, Sussex : —
Without this Wall
Lyeth the Body of Grandly Dr Edward Haines
For* to maintain his family spared not for paines
To ride and to run, to give releife
To those which were in pain and grrife.
Who the 30th of April entered Death's etraite Gate,
From the Birth of our Saviour 1708 :
And about the Age of 33.
And h«d his father's Virtues in ev'ry degree ;
And left behind him when he left this life
Two likely Sons and a loveing Wife
And about 36 weeks after
His wife and Relect was brought a bed with a Daughter
Which three we desire may live
Not to beg but to give.
His eldest Son Edward was then 6 years and 10 months
old,
Amongst all the Doctors, tho' there arc many,
He is as much mised as any.
Like to most mortals to his practice he was a slave
He catched the small pox & died & is here in his
grave.
The spelling, punctuation, &c., are copied as-
exactly as possible, but the transcript is not very
legible. In the original I imagine that the word
I have marked with an asterisk must have been
"who." E. G. CLAYTON.
Richmond.
'EICON BASILICE.' — The interest in 'Eicon
Basilice ' has lately been revived by the important
publication of Mr. Almack. I am not aware
whether his volume contains this early incidental
literary notice of its genuineness which I have met
with. It occurs in the ' Easy and Compendious
Introduction to the Reading of all Sorts of His-
tories/ by Mathias Prideaux, M.A., Fellow of
Exeter College, sixth edition, 1682, p. 355; but it
is not in the fifth (1675). In a notice of the
vindication of himself by the king during his
imprisonment he writes : —
"And having once taken the pen in hand, and the
solitude of his imprisonment affording him leisure
enough, he draws with it that true pourtraiture, wch he
hath left us behind, of himself: a peice above the reach
of the painter's skill and pencil, being a lively repre-
sentation of his best and noblest part, the mind, which
like the Deity from whom it came and with whom
that of princes hath the nearest affinity, is invisible and
inaccessible; a peice which shall be fresh and lively,
when the oyls and colours of his pictures laid on by
Vandicks hand shall fade ; wear and endure, when hia
brass and marble statues shall be mouldered into duat,
S. XI. FEB. 27, '97.1 NOTES AND QUERIES.
165
lafct as long a3 time itself shall, to be both read and
admired."
ED. MARSHALL,
[See ' N. & Q.' Indexes, passim.]
CHINESE FOLK-LORE. — Some years ago I learnt
that a Chinaman can tell the time by looking at
the eyes of a cat ; but I searched in vain for exact
details in all the books I know. Recently I have
received full information from a Chinese friend,
and as it is apparently not to be found in print
elsewhere, I thought it might be worthy of a
corner here. Some naturalist can perhaps inform
me if there is any foundation for this curious belief,
and I should also like to find out if any parallel
exists in other countries. Every twenty - four
hours is divided by the Chinese into twelve
periods of two hours each, their names in Can-
tonese being tsze (midnight), chao (1 to 3), yan
(3 to 5), mao (5 to 7), san (7 to 9), sze (9 to 1 1),
ng (midday), mi (1 to 3), san (3 to 5), yao (5 to
7), sut (7 to 9), hoi (9 to 11). The cat's eye is
supposed to be susceptible of three variations in
shape, and each of these lasts exactly two hours,
and then changes to the next in rotation. Thus
the round pupil corresponds to the period of mid-
night ; at one o'clock it turns to a vertical oblong,
at three o'clock to a horizontal oblong, while at
five o'clock the round shape again manifests itself.
At the birth of a child the household cat is seized,
and the hour deduced from its eyes as a basis for
the calculations of the astrologers.
JAS. PLATT, Jun.
A MODE OF READY REFERENCE. — I think
many readers- may like to know of the simple plan
whereby I have for years been able to find my
place in a book with great readiness. If I come
across a passage to which I shall have some day
to refer again, I take down not only the number of
the page, but the position of the passage on the
page, for some pages are very long. It used to be
the custom to divide long pages into parts by the
use of the letters a, 6, c, &c. ; but this was often
too elaborate. For practical purposes only four
letters should be used, viz., a, b} c, and d. One has
no time to measure accurately, but it is easy to
judge by the eye with sufficient exactness. Hence
I use " p. 20 a " to signify p. 20, near the top, or
somewhere within the first quarter of the page ;
then " p. 20 6 " means p. 20, above the middle ;
"p. 20 c" means p. 20, below the middle; and
' p. 20 c?" means p. 20, near the bottom. Some-
times, as a refinement, I use "p. 20/." Here /
means finis, i.e., the last line. Even if a quota-
tion is on the border-line, and the worst comes to
the worst, one has merely to read half the page,
not all of it. If the page is in double columns,
then col. 1 may be called " 1 " ; but I prefer to
call it "a"; it is easier. That is, I write
'p. 20 be" to signify p. 20, col. 2, somewhere
below the middle of the column. Of all time-
saving processes, this is one of the best ; it gives
no particular trouble, and is a great help to the
eye. WALTER W. SKEAT.
NEIL DOUGLAS, POET AND PREACHER. —
Owing to the lack of material in London, I was
unable to compile an adequate memoir of this
singular man for the ' Dictionary of National Bio-
graphy ' (vol. xv.). I now learn that he was a
native of Glendaruel, parish of Kilmodan, Argyle-
shire, where he had many relations. They were
known at the time of his birth and for some time
afterwards as MacLugas, which was ultimately
changed to Douglas. Neil Douglas was probably
born in 1750 ; but unfortunately there is a blank
in the register of births between 1749 and 1761.
It would seem, however, that he was the son of
Neil MacLugas and Elizabeth Cowan. His father
was elder, treasurer, and apparently session clerk
in the parish from 1745 to 1753. Some time ago
I heard that Mr. Archibald Brown, of Custom
House Place, Greenock, a countryman of Neil
Douglas, had obtained a good deal of information
about him in Glasgow, particularly in the Stirling
Library. I trust that Mr. Brown may be induced
to publish the result of his researches ; if, indeed,
he has not already done so.
GORDON GOODWIN.
WART-CURING AS AN OCCULT SCIENCE.— I
have lately come across a water-curer in humble
circumstances, whose cures were stated to be of
so marvellous a description that I felt impelled to
examine the matter somewhat closely. This led
to the discovery that wart-curing, at any rate in
this part of the world, was at one time a by no
means uncommon trade, and was always shrouded
in mystery. The wart-curer in whom I am in-
terested, together with his father, from whom he
inherited the secret, claims to have cured hundreds
of cases, and to be infallible ; and certainly,
having myself examined some cases, I am not dis-
posed to discredit his statement. The proceeding
is somewhat as follows. The patient has to tell
the exact number of warts troubling him, and is
then bidden not to do anything to them for a fort-
night, and not to think about them, and at the
end of that time they will have disappeared. The
wart-ourer is supposed to notch a stick with the
number of the warts, and to treat some herbs,
which he has often to walk miles to procure ; but
this part of the business is his €ecret, and no one
knows the process exactly. Now one is naturally
inclined to say to this, " What rubbish ! 'J But
the evidence in favour of the wart-curer is over-
whelming. I will cite the three cases personally
known to me. One is that of a relation, whose
hands were covered with warts, some of old
standing, and who was induced to give my wart-
curer a trial. She gave their number as fifteen,
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and in the fortnight fifteen had disappeared ; but
three were left. She then returned to the wart-
curer, who at once remarked that she must have
stated the wrong number, in which remark she
acquiesced, and in the next fortnight the remaining
warts disappeared. A servant in a neighbouring
house had thirteen warts on her hands, which
disappeared under the same strange treatment.
Lastly, a woman in this village had her face and
neck much disfigured by warts, of which altogether
on her person there were stated to be some 250.
The whole of these disappeared in the fortnight.
From what I am told I could probably enlarge
the number indefinitely ; but perhaps some of
your readers can substantiate my statement from
other quarters, and, better still, give me the reason
for so strange, yet satisfactory, a cure. I have
only to add that my wart-curer will accept no
payment, though he does not object to a present
of tobacco. HOLCOMBE INGLEBY.
Heacham Hall, Norfolk.
"HENGMAND": "HANGMENT."— In the West
Riding of Yorkshire one occasionally hears the
word "Hengmand" used in such an expression
as " How the Hengmand do I know ? " The word
is very distinctly pronounced and aspirated, so
that there can be no mistake as to the form. More
frequently it occurs as " Hangment,"in the phrase
" to play the Hangment," meaning " to play the
devil," to make havoc. " What the Hangment ! "
is also frequently heard. I spell this word with a
capital, because it is the name of a mythical being.
Burns, in his ' Address to the Deil,' speaks
of that being as "Hangie." Vigfiisson, s. v.
* Hanga," says that, according to an ancient myth
" Odin himself was represented as hangi, hanging on the
tree Ygg-draeil, and from the depths beneath taking up
the hidden mystery of wisdom."
Burns's "Hangie" (for hangi-man or hang-man)
is therefore Odin. Accordingly "Hengmand,"
or " Hangment," is also Odin, the hanging man,
or hanged man. For the termination mand or
ment compare the German niemand and the older
nieman, niemant. I hear that an English legend
about Hangman's Stone still exists, and that
Dr. Sykes, formerly of Mexborough, shortly
intends to publish it. I do not know whether
the legend can be connected with Odin. For
Odin as " hangi," see ' Corpus Poet. Boreale,' i. 24.
A fragmentary story about Jack Otter, in my
household Tales^' &c., should also be compared.
S. 0. ADDY.
WESLEY MSS.— A very large and valuable find
of Wesley letters and correspondence relating to
the early days of Methodism has been recently
brought to light at the Wesleyan Book-Room,
ity Road, London. Stimulated by his previous
success in this direction, the Rev. Charles H.
Kelly, the Connexional book-steward, while pro-
secuting his searches, came upon a box containing
John Wesley's autograph letters and journals,
Nos. 1 to 121, from July, 1738, to December,
1790 ; also his brother Charles Wesley's journals
and letters — some two hundred in all. Letters
also have been found written by many of those
associated with the Wesleys in the great religious
movement of the last century. Among a number
of interesting documents is the MS. sermon
preached by Charles Wesley before the University
of Oxford on the text "Awake, thou that sleepest,"
since included as the third in the fifty-three Wesley
standard sermons ; also Charles Wesley's letters
of deacon's and priest's orders, signed by the
bishops of Oxford and London. Besides this
valuable find, the Book-Room authorities have
just obtained possession of the original MS. of
John Bonnet's copy of the minutes of the first four
conferences presided over by Mr. Wesley, together
with the only known perfect copy of ' The Nature,
Design, and General Rules of the United Societies/
signed by John Wesley. The latter is in manu-
script, and contains the rules of the Methodist
Church. There are also several of Mrs. Susannah
Wesley's letters. DANIEL HIPWELL.
PAPAL BULL ON ANGLICAN ORDERS. — I have
frequently been asked whether it would be per-
missible for any future Pope to reopen the ques-
tion treated of in the Bull of Leo XIII. And I
reply, It would be, though most unlikely, possible,
because, as Bossuet observed, the Pope in emergen-
cies can do anything. But it is not open to
individual Catholics to do so; and it will be
remembered those foreign ecclesiastics who hoped
for a different decision, at once, and ez animo,
bowed to the Papal ruling. Of course, I write
from no polemical standpoint, but simply record a
note of fact and practice. GEORGE ANGUS.
St. .Andrews, N.B.
* DICTIONARY OF NATIONAL BIOGRAPHY.'— In
vol. iii. p. 121, it is stated that Henry Bankes, of
Kingston Hall, Dorset, married Frances, daughter
of William Woodward, Esq., Governor of the Lee-
ward Islands. The governor's name was Woodley,
and not Woodward. W. ROBERTS.
HARSNETT FAMILY. -- Samuel Harsnett, the
nephew and executor of Samuel Harsnett, Arch«
bishop of York and founder of Chigwell Grammar
School, would probably be identical with Samuel
Harsnett, of Great Fransham, Norfolk. His will,,
signed 6 March, 1668, with codicil dated 6 July,
1670, was proved 28 Oct., 1670 (registered in.
P.C.C. 134, Penn). Therein he mentions his wife>
Eleanor, and his three unmarried daughters, Mary,,
Anne, and Cotton. To his son, Samuel, he be-
queathed an estate at Chicrwell, Essex. His eldest
daughter, Mrs. Barbara Fisher, had issue Samuel,,
Barbara, and Eleanor. The Chigwell property
8th 8. XI. FEB. 27, '97.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
167
was in possession of the Fisher family at the be-
ginning of the present century. I may add that
the William Kemp who married Thomazine
Waldegrave (afterwards the wife of Archbishop
Harsnett) was a son of Robert Kemp, of Gissing,
Norfolk. See Gent. Mag., vol. xcvi. pt. ii.
P. 594. GORDON GOODWIN.
We must request correspondents desiring information
on family matters of only private interest to affix their
names and addresses to their queries, in order that the
answers may be addressed to them direct.
ST. SAVIOUR OR ST. MARY OVERIE, SOUTH-
WARK. — The collegiate church of St. Saviour or
St. Mary Overie, Southwark, has had some good
historians, but it is destitute of manuscripts, all of
which seem to have disappeared from the Chapter
library at the Dissolution, there having been an
interval of obliteration when even the church itself
was sold. In conjunction with our revived Chapter
I am anxious to gather again any copies or originals
that can be obtained, and I venture, through your
columns, to ask the assistance of antiquaries. Any
suggestions as to coverts which I may draw will be
valuable, as well as offers of material. I am in-
formed by a learned friend that the late Mr. G. R.
Corner, F.S.A., unearthed a good deal of informa-
tion, but that his collection was dispersed at his
death. HUTSHE SOUTHWARK, Bishop.
PETER FIN. — Was there a comedy or farce, in
vogue " sixty years since," in which Listen played
a character bearing the above name ; and if so, how
was it entitled ? A. A.
" HANDMAID."— Smyth's < Sailor's Word-Book '
(1867) says, s. v.t "An old denomination for a
tender : thus in Drake's expedition to Cadiz two of
her Majesty's pinnaces were appointed to attend
his squadron as handmaids." I should like to
know where Smyth found this use of the word,
and to have any other examples.
J. A. H. MURRAY.
{ HAND-CHAIR "= BATH-CHAIR.— This word is
used in some south-coast watering-places. I should
like to know exactly the counties where it is
common, and to have any instances of its use,
also of the word hand- chairman. Is the term
Aacfcnei/- c/iair (properly = a sedan-chair) ever applied
to bath-chairs ? Q. V.
LITTLECOT TRAGEDY. — Can any of your readers
say whether the " Littlecot tragedy " is mentioned
V>y Sir Walter Scott ; if so, in which of his novels
is it to be found ? F. B. P.
PIRATES. — I want particulars concerning the
two pirates, Ward and Dansjker, who lived towards
the close of the sixteenth century. In a copy of
Daborne's play ' A Christian turn'd Turke ' I
find the following manuscript note on the fly-leaf :
" In 1609 was published a narrative called ' Barker's
Overthrow of Captain Ward and Dansiker, two
Pirates,' printed in quarto." Unfortunately there
is no copy of this book in any of the public
libraries of this country. Can any one give me a
concise biography of these two men ?
A. E. H. SWAEN.
Almeloo.
HOYLES. — Drayton uses this word in his charm-
ing description of Eobin Hood's outlaws (Song xxvi.
of the ' Polyolbion ') :—
At long butts, short, and hoyles each one would cleav
the pin.
Where the word is noticed in dictionaries it appears
to be usually dismissed with the vague comment,
" a trial of skill in archery"; and no parallel is
quoted. A full explanation is given in T. Roberts's
'English Bowman ; or, Tracts on Archery,' &c.,
London, 1801, p. 226 :—
" Hoyle, is an old north country word, signifying
eminences, as mole-hills, or thistles, docks, and other
prominent marks This sort of shooting is (strictly
speaking) rovers; as the marks shot at are at varied and
uncertain distances. Indeed it differs from roving only
in this, that these distances are always short ; sometimes
not more than fifteen or twenty yards, at the fancy of
the leader. This shooting is used by way of variation, to
conclude, or determine, butt-shooting when the games at
the latter are equal on both sides."
"Roving" is explained (ib. p. 230) as changing
the butt at every shot. For a parallel use of
" hoyles," see Christopher Brooke's * The Ghost of
Richard the Third,' 1614, sig. F 4 verso :—
Gold sets vp markes, Hoyles, pricks for any Ayme,
That still shall hit, how wide so[e]uer Merit.
Perhaps some reader can say if the word is still in
use in any North-Country dialect.
PERCY SIMPSON.
RICHARD PORSON. — Mr. Kidd, in the " Imperfect
Outline" (p. xxvii) prefixed to his edition of
Person's 'Tracts and Miscellaneous Criticisms/
alludes (and again in pref. p. Ixiv) in very severe
terms— although not at all more severe than the
case deserves— to " a Lady whose life has been
devoted to the reformation and comfort of the
poor," &c., who has most unwarrantably aspersed
the professor's character, in language which he
denounces as "a scurrilous libel, unthought of,
uncalled for; and insulted his memory with a
comparison which would degrade him." Strange
as it may seem, I have never been able to trace
any allusion to the subject in any of the numerous
biographical notices of the professor which have
appeared since his death. Even E. H. Barker
seems to have known nothing of it. Mr. Luard
(« Cambridge Essays,' 1857) has not a word about
it, nor, unless I am greatly mistaken, has Selby
168
NOTES AND QUERIES.
Watson in his * Life of Porson.' I have long had
an impression that the lady in question was Hannah
More, but a very careful search through all her
printed works that have come before me has been
entirely fruitless, so that I may be mistaken in my
conjecture. Can any of your correspondents help
me ? F. N.
'THE SYNAGOGUE.' — Can any of your readers
give the authorship of a book called ' The Syna-
gogue ; or, the Shadow of the Temple ' ? I have
before me the ninth edition, published in 1709.
It is bound up with the thirteenth edition of ' The
Temple/ and is accompanied by laudatory verses
by Isaac Walton and " J. L." I. F. M. C.
It is by Christopher Harvey, M.A., Vicar of Clifton.]
JOHN, SECOND BARON ROBARTES AND FIRST
EARL OF RADNOR. — Will you kindly say if John,
second Baron Robartes and first Earl of Radnor,
who about 1669 was Lord Lieutenant of Ire-
land, died without heirs ; and if the title became
extinct, or was it forfeited? Has it never been
claimed by any one ? MARTIN W. WINN.
SATYRS' EARS. — Among what races of mankind
does the pointed animal-like ear frequently occur ?
E. A. de Cosson says, in * The Cradle of the Blue
Nile,' 1877, vol. ii. p. 73 :—
"A Wito, one of the curious race of hippopotamus
hunters who dwell in this region [near Lake Tzana]
approached These Wito men have a very peculiar
type of face. Their foreheads are extraordinarily
retreating, and the outer corners of their eyes and eye-
brows slope upwards, like those of the typical Mephis-
topheles; their sharp aquiline noses curve over the
upper lip like a beak, and their china are prodigiously
long. Their ears end in a point, like those of the ancient
satyrs, and their hair, which they wear unplaited, is
short and woolly. A more diabolical cast of countenance
it would be hard to imagine ; but I believe they are a
harmless race."
Does any other variety of human being possess
this form of ear normally? Some years ago I
encountered a Scotch peasant, of singularly un-
pleasing type, who had large outstanding ears, like
funnels, internally clothed with long hair; and
other isolated instances of men with ears resembling
those of quadrupeds are not unknown. But are
there whole tribes possessing this peculiarity ?
T. G.
UGO BASSI'S SERMON ON THE VINE. — Mrs.
Hamilton-King, in 'The Disciples,1 gives, in
part iii. of 'Ugo Bassi,' a sermon on the vine,
"As it was written down by one who heard" (ed.
1883, p. 96). Has the Italian text been printed ;
and where can it be obtained ? Q. V.
OWEN BRIGSTOCKE. — Who was he? Mr. G. F.
Barwick, of the British Museum, who supplied the
copy of a great part and corrected the proofs of
the whole of the second edition of the ' Basque
Grammar and Dialogues ' of Micoleta, the oldest
known, says that the book-plate of Owen Brig*
stocke occurs in the original manuscript, which
forms part of the Harleian collection.
PALAMEDES,
CLASSON. — Was there ever a family in the
South of England of this name ? M. S.
FAMILY OF EAGLESON. — Can any one tell me
anything of the genealogy, origin, location, &c., of
this family? A. A. GORDON, F.S. A.Scot.
128A, George Street, Edinburgh.
WALTER HERVEY. — Will any correspondent
possessing accurate knowledge favour me with a
brief outline of what is known of this founder of
the house of Butler ? References will oblige ; but,
alone, will not greatly help me at the moment.
SUSSEX.
FARNWORTH GRAMMAR SCHOOL. — I understand
there is preserved in the Harleian MS. 2103,
f. 174, a petition of the inhabitants of the Chapelry
of Farnworth (dated July, 1631), complaining of
the misgovernment of Farnworth Grammar School.
Would some one kindly transcribe the petition in
full for ( N. & Q./ showing, if possible, what his
worship of Chester had to do with this school ?
T. CANN HUGHES, M.A.
Lancaster.
" GOMER HAD IT." — Could you or any of your
numerous readers give me the origin or any infor-
mation regarding the old exclamation of impa-
tience or annoyance used in Somerset, particularly
in the village of Glutton, " Gomer had it," pro-
nounced by Somerset people "Gomez 'ad it"?
It is used in much the same way and sense as the
saying, "The devil take it." Any information
whatever will be most acceptable.
EDWARD MARTIN.
AGE OF CLOCK. — Can any reader give me
information as to the age of a clock ? Its history
can be traced back to about 1820. It strikes the
hours, has only one weight, and no key for winding,
instead there is an endless cord. The dial is
ornamental brass. The clock came about 1820
from an Aberdeenshire mansion house. M.
[Is there no maker's name ?]
"TOM PUGH."— Who and what was Tom Pugh?
I can recall a saying which I have heard on many
occasions, viz., " That 's all Tom Pugh," in reference
to any story of a doubtful character. Similarly, a
person would describe any statement of a doubtful
nature as a " bit of Tom Pugh." Now can any of
your readers say who the person named was, and
explain the " wherefore" of the expression?
C. P. HALE.
"CAST FOR DEATH." — Can any one say when
*„ cast for death " was first used on the sheets with
which balladmongera rushed through towns and
8th S. XI, FEB. 27, '97.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
169
villages at assize time on the trial and sentence to
death of prisoners? These sheets of doggerel
stood in the place of newspapers, to a great extent,
in country parts, particularly those out of the way,
and were circulated in thousands, to be read and
reread till reduced to tatters. Only a few are
preserved, often between leaves of family Bibles —
a strange mixture of literature. Probably one
of the last "trial and sentence" published and
circulated containing the words "cast for death"
is the following : —
"Trial and Sentence of Thomas Puller Bacon at
Lincoln, who was cast for death Saturday July the
twenty one thousand eighteen hundred fifty seven for
poisoning of hia mother, giving account of the Murder of
his two dear infant children and the particulars of poor
afflicted illused wife."
The broadsheet is badly printed.
THOS. EATCLIPFB.
Worksop.
INCIDENT IN SICILY. — Can any reader of
*N. & Q.' tell me where I can find the story of
some leader of an army who wished to marry a
Sicilian queen who declined to listen to his suit ?
He consequently laid siege to the town in which
she lived, took her prisoner, and exposed her in
an iron cage to the public view, afterwards hand-
ing her over to his soldiers. I cannot be sure
whether the story belongs to history or to fiction.
R. B. B.
SCOTT'S ' OLD MORTALITY.' — Is it known
whence Scott obtained this title for his novel ? — or
perhaps I ought to say for the character described
in the novel. It has recently struck me that
peradventure Sir Thomas Browne's * Hydriotaphia '
may be the source from which Scott drew his
name. The " Epistle Dedicatory " has :—
" But there are sad and sepulchral pitchers, which
have no joyful voices ; silently expressing old mortality,
the ruins of forgotten times, and can only speak with
life, how long in this corruptible frame some parts may
be uncorrupted ; yet able to outlast bones long unborn,
and noblest pile among us."
F. C. BIRKBECK TERRY.
AUTHORS OF QUOTATIONS WANTED. —
And thou shalt know, ere long,
Know how divine a thing it is
To suffer and be strong. E. WALFORD.
[Longfellow, ' Light of Stars.']
The Bthiop's god has Ethiop's lips,
Black cheeks and woolly hair,
And the Grecian god has a Grecian face.
As keen-eyed, cold, and fair. N. H.
Children of men, the Unseen Power, whose eye
For ever doth accompany mankind,
Hath looked on no religion scornfully
That man did ever find.
Which hath not taught weak wills how much they can1?
>Vhich hath not fallen on the dry heart like rain?
Which hath not said to sunk, self. weary man,
Thou must be born again? C. C. B.
SIR FRANC VAN HALEN, K.G.
(8th S. xi. 84, 131.)
I cannot allow MR. ATHILL to convict me of
inaccuracy by altering my words and disregard-
ing some of my statements. I did not say " that
the pedigree of Hall was foisted on the College
of Arms at the visitation of Salop, 1623." I was
not dealing with the visitation of 1623 in which it
appears, but with the pedigree and arms themselves,
which were probably concocted some seventy years
or more before 1623, and which Vincent incorpo-
rated in his visitation. I am aware that Vincent's
MSS. are not official documents ; nevertheless they
are at the College, where Beltz consulted the pedi-
gree and arms under discussion about the year
1840 ; his reference is " Vine. No. 134, fo. 479 in
Coll. Armor." It matters little who was the
concocter of the bogus pedigree and arms, nor does
it matter much that Vincent accepted them ; but
it does matter a good deal when we find that
Garter King (apparently many years before 1623)
gave the arms the " hall mark " of the College by
placing them on the stall of Sir Franc at Windsor.
By this act I hold that the arms were foisted on
the College, and consequently the pedigree, for the
one conspired with the other in asserting what was
false. MR. ATHILL may reply that the College is
not bound by the actions of its chief officer,
Garter ; but unless it protests it must be held to
accept and approve them. It seems to me a pity
that an official of the College should be touchy
when the infallibility of a predecessor of long
ago is called in question. Nowadays a yearly
increasing number of literary men are learning to
respect the College and value its work. It is not
good policy to snub an outsider because he
endeavours to procure the amendment of a palp-
able blunder, which though made three hundred
years ago or more is still in evidence in a position
where the accuracy of the science of armory should
be as far as possible assured. As to Dr. Wood-
ward's peccadilloes, I think MR. ATHILL might
have made them the subject of a separate note. I
am not Dr. Woodward, nor am I answerable for
his actions or words. If MR. ATHILL wishes to
continue the discussion, I must ask him not to go
outside it.
A. W. CORNELIUS HALLEN, M. A, Cantab.
Alloa N.B.
I notice that MR. CHARLES ATHILL, Richmond
Herald, quotes a passage from my treatise on
' Ecclesiastical Heraldry ' with regard to the blazon
of the see of Chichester as an instance in which
erroneous statements are rashly made concerning
the College of Arms and its inaccuracies. MR.
ATHILL also made this objection to my statement
in private correspondence with myself, and was
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then informed by me of the authority on which
it was based, which seemed, and still seems, to
me at least, sufficient. That authority was the
then Bishop of Chichester, who informed me that
he had made an application to the Heralds' College
with regard to the correct blazon of the arms of
his see, and had in reply received from an officer
of the College of Arms the blazon to which I have
objected as incorrect, and which I think we had
the right, though MR. ATHILL has denied it, to
consider official and authoritative. I have noticed
other instances in which, when ignorance or care-
lessness has been imputed to the College of Arms,
an attempt has been made to transfer the onus
from the shoulders of the body corporate to those
of some one or other of its members. And yet
we are not unfrequently twitted with disrespect
for this "authority," when it is perfectly well
known that the College does not speak with a clear
and authoritative voice, but that A and B, two of
its members we will say, hold upon a particular
subject views which are not only not reconcilable
but are diametrically opposed to each other, yet
A and B both are " officers of the College of Arms,"
and as such are entitled to speak upon heraldic
matters with an authority which can never be
acquired by ignorant and unofficial persons such as
myself. It seems to me that MR. ATHILL is pecu-
liarly unhappy in his choice of an instance, not
only for the reason stated at first, but because
this matter of the blazon of the arms of the see of
Chichester is (as he knows quite as well as, or even
better than, myself) an example in which there is
full justification for what I have asserted in the pre-
vious paragraph. I shall be glad to learn that, on
this subject at least, differences in the College
have been composed; that there is at length an
authoritative blazon of the arms of the see ; and
that the "officials" are regarding it "of one mind
in a house." If I have contributed to this desir-
able result I shall not mind MB. ATHILL'S official
condemnation. JOHN WOODWARD, LL.D.
It may be worth while to mention, for the
benefit of the unlearned, that there is an unsettled
controversy as to the purport of the figure in the
arms of the see of Chichester (see Parker's * Glos-
sary of Heraldry,' ed. 1894). Some new evidence
in favour of MR. ATHILL'S contention was laid
before our late venerated bishop not long before
his death, but, with characteristic shrewdness, he
pleaded his advanced age as his excuse for not
investigating the question.
EDWARD H. MARSHALL. M.A.
Hastings.
BRITISH (8th S. xi. 3, 62).— To Scotsmen MR.
RALPH THOMAS'S articles are amusing reading.
Perhaps this is owing to our abnormal national
sense of humour. His position is evidently the
same as that of the ingenious. William Atwood,
who, before the union of the Parliaments, published
a book with the agreeable title ' The Superiority
and Direct Dominion of the Imperial Crown and
Kingdom of England over the Crown and Kingdom
of Scotland.' Of this Hill Burton says :—
" Had Atwood formed his conclusions on indubitable
historical evidence there was scarcely a Scotsman of the
day who would not have deemed himself sunk in the
deepest degradation had he believed a word he said. It
was perhaps fortunate, however, that the enemy turned
out to be a shallow prejudiced advocate, whose speedy
confutation diffused through the nation the good humour
generally attendant on an easy victory."
Atwood, by the strangest chance, appealed to
James Anderson, who was then arranging materials
for the publication of the collection of ancient
Scottish munimental facsimiles, for confirmation of
his opinions. Anderson took up the challenge at
once, and most effectually disposed of Atwood's
fabrications. ,
Now the facts of the case as regards the use of
"British" as descriptive of the people of the
three islands are very simple. Prior to 1707,
England and Scotland were separate kingdoms.
Ireland had long been a state subject to England,
but retained its Parliament, as the Isle of Man
retains its House of Keys to the present day.
The business of the Commissioners " appointed to
treat for an union betwixt the kingdoms of Scot-
land and England " was with England and Scot-
land alone. Their fundamental proposition was
" that the two kingdoms of England and Scotland
be for ever united into one kingdom, by the name
of Great Britain." The word "British" came
into immediate use. For example, Lord Havers-
ham, who strongly opposed the Union, speaking
in the House of Lords of the limited number of
Scottish peers who were to join that body, said :—
" It is evident by the two-and-twentieth article, that
above a hundred Scottish peers, and as many commoners,
are excluded from sitting and voting in the British
Parliament, who perhaps as little thought of being so, a
year or so ago, as any of your lordships do now."-
Dobate, February, 1707.
The subsequent union of the British and Irish
Parliaments was a purely domestic matter, for Ire-
land was then under the British crown in the same
way as until 1707 it was entirely under the English
crown. From 1707 the use of "British," to
describe the united peoples of the three islands and
the empire, is usual in Acts of Parliament. For
example, in the British North America Act
(30 Viet. c. 3), 1867, the preamble is :-
"Whereas the provinces of Canada, Nova Scotia, and
New Brunswick have expressed their desire to be feder-
ally united into one Dominion under the Crown of the
United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland with a
constitution similar in principle to that of the United
Kingdom :
"And Whereas such a Union would conduce to the
welfare of the provinces and promote the interests of the
British Empire," &c,
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171
If I understand MR. THOMAS aright (which,
being only a Scotsman, I may not do) he wishes to
supersede the imperial and parliamentary use of
British, and substitute English. How inconvenient
this would be I may illustrate from his own article
on ' Law Stationer ' (8th S. xi. 24), where he
objects to the ' Century Dictionary ' defining a
stationer as one " who sometimes, in England,
takes in drafts or writings to be fairly copied or
engrossed for lawyers." On this MR. THOMAS,
after giving an amended definition, remarks, " I
have left in the words ' in England/ but I imagine
they would not be necessary for a dictionary pub-
lished in England. Why has Mr. Whitney been
so particular ? Are there no law stationers in
America 1 " As to America I know not, but
there are no law stationers in Scotland who engross
as in England. In Scotland we lawyers have our
deeds engrossed in our own offices by our own
clerks. Thus, if MR. THOMAS succeeded in having
England always used for Britain (as must follow
if English is to be used instead of British), the
description of a law stationer would be entirely
inaccurate as regards Scotland. Mr. Whitney has
quite correctly limited his definition to England,
and by England he means the country that bears
that name.
Though the matter is trivial, I cannot but refer
to MR. THOMAS'S remark as to a Clyde-built ship's
nationality, " What would a Scotsman answer ?
Would he reply British (' Breeteesh '), or Anglais,
orEcossais?" Why " Breeteesh "? Is that how we
are all supposed to speak 1 Frbm the comic papers
it appears that we also always say " meeneester."
[ should be just as accurate (and courteous) as
MR. THOMAS were I to say, " An English house
usually contains a sofa, which the English habitu-
ally call a sof-er." WILLIAM GEORGE BLACK.
12, Sardinia Terrace, Glasgow.
In the Act of Uniformity, 14 Charles II., British
is used in opposition to English. It is applied to
the Welsh who do not understand English. The
Book of Common Prayer is to be "translated into
the British or Welsh tongue," and used "in such
parts of Wales where the English tongue is not
commonly understood." W. C. B.
BOISSEAU (8th S. vi. 509 ; vii. 238).— In the
'Universal Dictionary of Weights and Measures,
Ancient and Modern, reduced to the Standards of
the United States of America. By J. H. Alex-
ander. Baltimore, Wm. Minifie & Co., 1850," the
boisseau has fifteen values of dry capacity and
three of superficial. The former vary from 0-2461
bushel (Montreuil) to 2'65789 bushels (Avignon).
That of France (apart from the local values) from
1812 to 1840 is put at 0'35473 bushel ; that of
Paris " old measure " at 0'36915 and " till 1840 "
at 0-35473 bushel.
The United States bushel is the old Winchester
bushel, which equals 2 150 '42 cubic inches. The
English imperial bushel equals 1 '03152 United
States or old Winchester bushels.
The boisseau superficial is given in three values,
viz., Alais 0'0308 acre, Cahors 0'0788 acre, Mont-
pellier 0'0219 acre, the acre being the same as our
statute acre.
' The Universal Cambist/ by P. Kelly, LL.D.,
second edition, London, 1821, says (vol. i. p. 133) :
" The corn measure of Paris was the Muid, which was
divided into 12 Setters, 24 Mines, 48 Minots, or 144
Boisseaux, and the Boisseau into 16 Litrons. The Setier
equals T56 Hectolitre, or 4-427 English Bushels."
It is added on p. 139 that the u boisseau usuel "
is one-eighth of the hectolitre, and equals 0 '35474
English bushels, with halves, quarters, &c., in
proportion."
In some places "boisseau" meant a piece of
land which could be sowed with a boisseau of
wheat. In Lubeck there were two superficial
boisseaux, one of about thirteen ares, the other of
about seventeen ares (see ' Dictionnaire ' of
Napoleon Landais). KOBERT PIERPOINT.
THE TAPESTRIES FROM THE RAPHAEL CARTOONS
(8th S. xi. 107). — Les neuf tapisseries des ' Actes
des Apotres,' ayant appartenu a Charles Ier, furent
acquises, en 1649, pendant la Revolution d'Angle-
terre, par 1'ambassadeur d'Espagne a Londtes, Don
Alonzo de Cardenas. Devenu, en 1662, la propriete
de la maison d'Albe, cet exemplaire fut vendu eu
1833 a M. Tupper, consul britannique ; plus tard,
il appartint a un marchand de Londres, M. W.
Trull, qui lui consacra une notice spe'ciale. EQ
1844, enfin, il fut achete' par le roi de Prusse, et
expos^, d'abord a Monbijou, puis au musee de
Berlin, oil il se trouve encore de nos jours.*
EUGENE MUNTZ.
BURNS'S FRIEND NICOL (8th S. xi. 66).— MR.
BAYNE astonishes me. I always thought " Rob
and Allan cam' to pree." He is a Scotchman, and
he ought to know. Still, the Globe edition has
" see," though, curiously enough, the glossary gives
this very line as a reference for " pree." On the
other hand, the Aldine edition of Bell & Daldy
has " pree," which seems unquestionable to me.
Allan Cunningham also has " pree," in the ' Songs
of Scotland,' iv. 140. Does MR. BAYNE think no
Southron knows what it means ? I am sure Rob
and Allan did a great deal more than 'see."
Will
MR. BAYNE pronounce ?
C. F. S.
Longford, Coventry.
WARREN, M.A.
* Voy. Trull, ' Raphael vindicated by a comparison
between the original Tapestries (now in London) of
Leo X. and the Cartoons at Hampton Court, as repaired
by Cooke' (p. 23); Waagen, 'Die Cartons von Raphael
in besonderer Beziehung auf die nach denselben gervirk-
ten Teppiche in der Rotonde des Kdniglichen Museums
zu Berlin,' Berlin, 1860; Miintz, 'Lea Tapisseriea de
Raphael au Vatican/ Paris, 1897 (p, 24).
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LUNDY (8th S. x. 272, 506).— That this island
was known to and used by the Norsemen seems an
undoubted fact. In the ' Orkneyingers' Saga,'
translated by Sir G. W. Dasent (Rolls Series,
1894), it is related (p. 141) that Sweyn and Hol-
bodi harried round Wales, &c., and a certain
freeman called Robert, against whom Holbodi had
a grudge, " ran away to that isle which is called
Lund. There was a good stronghold ; Sweyn and
Holbodi sat before it for some time, but could do
nothing." Holbodi then made it up with the
freeman, turned traitor to Sweyn, and tried to burn
him out of house and home in the Isle of Man, was
defeated, and took flight to Lundy, " where the
freeman gave him a hearty welcome and they held
together." Sweyn and company had a try at the
stronghold on Lundy some time later, " but could
not get at Holbodi." There must have been a
very strong Norse settlement about the tenth cen-
tury on both sides of the Bristol Channel, and it is
a subject of interest to many that would repay the
trouble of working up in a more systematic way
than has hitherto been done. For an account of
the Norsemen in Pembroke Mr. Law's 'Little
England beyond Wales ' gives some details of note.
Had there not been settlements of Norsemen in
Pembrokeshire and Glamorganshire, the nomen-
clature of various headlands, bays, places, &c.,
would not have endured, as has been the case, to
testify to the Vikings' conquest and commerce.
ALEX. G. MOFFAT.
Swansea.
SHAKSPEARE AND EMBLEM LITERATURE (8th
S. xi. 49). — Is it not more likely that the illus-
tration was derived from some set piece, repre-
senting Peace and a domesticated lion, in a
pageant such as Londoners delighted in during
the sixteenth century, than from a woodcut in an
emblem book ? I remember seeing Britannia sur-
rounded by tame lions on a car, in a circus pro-
cession— accompanied by the late celebrated Mr.
Tom Sayers — through this town, in 1861, or a year
or two later. EDWARD H. MARSHALL, M.A.
Hastingg.
BEAUJOIE FAMILY (8tb S. xi. 68). — I translate
the following from the 'Armorial Ge'ne'ral de
France,' Paris, 1867 :—
" De Beaujeu. Charles-Louis de Beaujeu, commandant
at Marsal, proves hia descent from Jean de Beaujeu,
Chevalier of the Ordre du Roi (1526). Seigneuries : of
Saint-Hubert, Jauge, la Thuillerie, Chazeul. Alliances :
families (of) de Baugi, de Pallas, de Beaurepaire. Arms :
Gules, five bars argent. Note : La Chesnaye establishes
this family as a branch of the family of Beaujeu, known
since 967, and which has furnished two Constables, and
issued from the Comtesde Forez, cadets of the Dauphins
of Vienne."
The form of the name as given by MR. CARR
would seem to be an English misspelling of De
Beaujeu. The 'Armorial General' is a highly
authoritative work, the equivalent of our ' Heraldic
Visitations. ' It was compiled by the Juge-d'Armes
de France in 1768, and any family registered in it
is entitled to recognition as part of the ancienne
noblesse. The French arms with the dolphins,
concerning which you publish a query from another
correspondent, do not appear in the ' Armorial.'
JOHN HOBSON MATTHEWS.
Town Hall, Cardiff.
The above name may be a variation of Beaujeu.
Humbert de Beaujeu, Seigneur de Montpensier,
Constable of France circa 1250. He was grand-
son of Guichard III., Lord of Beaujeu in Lyonnais.
JOHN EADCLIFFE.
"ARSE'-VERSE'" (8th S. xi. 46).— An English
dictionary earlier than Bailey's contains this ex-
pression. Blount'a 'Glossographia,' fifth edition,
1681, has :—
" Ar sever se (i. averte ionem), a pretended Spell written
upon the door of an House, to keep it from burning.
'Tis a Tuscan word, quasi Arsuram averte"
Perhaps Blount introduced the expression, taking
it from Holy-Oke's c Latin Dictionary.' My copy,
dated 1640, has :—
" Arseverse, i. averte ignem, Tuscorum lingua, arse,
est averte, et verse ignem significat. alii exponunt verse,
id est, verte, et arse ardorem ignem. A spelt written
upon an house to preserve it from burning. Feat."
In Lewis and Short's ' Latin Dictionary ' it is
stated, that
"a pure Tuscan inscription found at Cortona with this
formula [arse verse] reads : ARSES . VVKSES . SETHLANL.,
&c., i. e., Ignem averte, Vulcane. Inscr. Orell., 1384."
F. C. BIRKBECK TERRY.
May I direct DR. SMY.THE PALMER'S attention
to your recent editorial note concerning amplitude
of reference, and ask for a reference to the passage
inFestus? Q. V.
This phrase occurs in Udal's translation of the
' Apopthegmis ' of Erasmus, p. 339, apparently
in the sense of " topsy-turvey " or upside down.
"Demosthenes thus turned ye clause clene arsee
versee." E. S. A.
HOLE FAMILY (8th S. vii. 308).— Amongst the
various ways of spelling this name which are quoted
by MR. DALLAS I notice Hoole is not given. Is
not "Hole" one of the old forms of spelling Hoole?
CHARLES DRURY.
PIGEONS TRAINED TO REPRESENT DEPARTING
SOULS (8th S. xi. 48). — There are cases mentioned
in Mr. Conway's ' Demonology and Devil Lore '
(chap, xx.) which seem to point to some such fact
as that affirmed by Dr. Brewer. The statement
probably refers to the Greek Church, by which the
dove is held sacred. Mahomet trained a dove to
perch on his shoulder ; it was pictured at the ear
of God ; it brought the chrism from heaven at tljQ
S, XI. PEB, 27, '97.1
NOTES AND QUERIES.
baptism of Olovis ; doves surmounted the sceptre
of 'Charlemagne ; they were let loose at the con-
secration of the kings of France, after the unction.
C. C. B,
GINGHAM (8th S. iv. 386, 516).— On looking
over PROF. SKEAT'S interesting book, * A Student's
Pastime,' I see that he has reprinted verbatim his
note at the first reference, in which he adopted
Littre's derivation of gingham from Guingamp, in
Brittany, notwithstanding MR. BIRKBECK TERRY'S
pertinent suggestion that evidence should be pro-
duced (1) as to when the word first makes its
appearance in England, and (2) as to the earliest
date when the material so called was manufactured
at Guingamp. As Dr. Murray's ' Dictionary ' is
now approaching the letter G, it may be desirable
to take up the word again. It is odd that no refer-
ence has been made to the best authority on the
subject, Yule and Burnell's ' Glossary of Anglo-
Indian Words.' This is a book which I do not
think PROF. SKEAT has once cited in the valuable
little work to which I have referred. And yet the
compilers of it are not men to be ignored. Sir
Henry Yule stood in the first rank among European
writers on historical geography, whilst Dr. Burnell
occupied an equally commanding position in the
domain of Oriental philology. Gingham is a word
which was treated by them at considerable length.
It is defined in the ' Draper's Dictionary '.as a kind
of stuff made from cotton yarn dyed before being
woven. In discussing Littre's derivation, Messrs.
Yule and Burnell say : —
" We may observe that the productions of Guingamp,
and of the C6tes-du-Nord generally, are of linen, & manu-
facture dating from the fifteenth century. If it could
be shown that gingham was either originally applied to
linen fabrics, or that the word occurs before the Indian
trade began, we should be more willing to admit the
French etymology as possible."
N-either postulate being established, other ety-
mologies were carefully examined, and the general
conclusion was arrived at that, like chintz and
calico, the term was one originating in the Indian
trade, and that probably it came from the Archi-
pelago. The earliest mention of the word seems to
occur in Cesare Federici, c. 1566-7, who, according
to Kamusio, iii. 387 v., says there were at Tana
many weavers who made " ormesini e gingani di
lana e di bombaso." Curiously enough, on turning
in the ' Glossary ' to ormesini, we find Hakluyt's
English translation of this passage, which runs as
follows : " They are makers of Armesie and weavers
of girdles of wooll and bumbast" (i. e., a cotton
material, whence bombazine). Here it will be
seen that gingani is rendered girdles, which I
can only attribute to the fact that gingham was
at that time unknown in England. Federici's use
of the term seems to me to militate strongly against
Littre's derivation, unless, indeed, we are to sup-
pose that the Italians, as well as the English,
borrowed the word from the Breton town. Various
other references are given in the * Glossary,' none
of which supports the Guingamp theory, whilst in
the Supplement will be found a list of stuffs from
Van Twist, 1648, which comprises Gamiguins,
Baftas, Chelas, Assamanis, Madafoene, Beronis,
Tricandias, Chittes, Langans, Toffocbillen, and
Dotias. Certainly no English word ever found
itself in more uncouth company than this, and one
can hardly avoid the assumption that gamiguins
are of similar extraction to the rest of the batch.
In a list of cloths at Pulicat, given by Valentijn
under date 1726, we find " Gekeperde Ginggangs "
(twilled ginghams), an orthography which seems
to lend some colour to the derivation in Jansz's
'Javanese Dictionary': ** Ginggang, a sort of
striped or checquered East Indian lijnwand " — the
last word, according to Yule and Burnell, being
applied to cotton as well as linen stuffs. PROF.
SKEAT attaches some weight to the fact that ging-
ham is an old English spelling of Guingamp, and
cites "the towne of Gyngham" in the Paston
Letters.' On the other hand, Yule and Burnell
state that they have seen the name of a place on
the northern side of Sumatra written Gingham,
and they cite ' Bennett's Wanderings,' ii. 5, 6, and
Elmore's 'Directory to India and China Seas,
1802, pp. 63-4. Considering that no evidence
whatever is forthcoming that a cotton material
resembling gingham was ever manufactured at
Guingamp, or that any such material was known
in England before the opening of the Indian trade,
we must, I think, come to the conclusion that,
while the exact derivation is open to discussion,
the word as well as the material had, at all events,
an Eastern origin, and made their first appearance
in the trade lists of the Portuguese and Dutch
East India captains. W. F. PRIDEAUX.
Kingsland, Shrewsbury.
" BARELY " (8th S. x. 333, 366, 421, 518 ; xi.
109).— The disquisition of F. H., while interesting
in itself, is not particularly germane to the issue.
It is partly irrelevant and partly superfluous.
F. H. appears to misunderstand the point under
discussion. In one of his paragraphs he unwit-
tingly supports and illustrates the contention of
the original note on the subject. He writes thus :
« ' It was not pretendedly, but truly, that he admired
them,' is unobjectionable, but otherwise is ' uy
that I was there.' In the first sentence, < truly goes,
in mental construction, with « admired '; in the sec< id,
the word required to go with ' was ' is ' true.
This is exactly what I said at the outset. It was
for this and no more that I contended. If F. J
will consider all the sentences he gives, in the part
of the article preceding the paragraph quoted, he
will surely see that not a single example is formed
on the model of "It is rarely that one of them
emerges." His fun about decapitation and inver-
sion is not supported, as it ought to have been, by
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his argument and his illustrations. His first pair
of sentences have adjectival not substantival clauses,
while the adverbs in every one of the others go, to
quote himself, " in mental construction " with the
subordinate verbs. Sentences of this kind cannot,
of course, be inverted without ridiculous results.
According to the method adopted by F. H., one
might transpose "This is the house that Jack
ouilt" into " That Jack built this is the house,"
and then laugh consumedly at the quaint abortion
produced. But such a performance would add
nothing to a discussion on the relation of a sub-
stantival clause to the main verb of the sentence
in which it occurs. One would have gladly re-
cognized something even remotely akin to the
subject, just as the newly-made widow of a Scot-
tish story admitted, when told of the death of
Mrs. Tamson's coo, that "it aye helped a wee."
The divagations of F. H. give no help at all.
The rest of F. H.'s article is in complete accord-
ance with what I have said all along. Hundreds
of instances could very easily be given of sentences
like "It is very barely that one of them emerges."
I said so at the beginning, and other contributors
have supported the statement. The extracts given
by F. H. will not be exactly superfluous, however,
if they succeed in convincing MR. INGLEBT, in his
reverence for the prevailing greatness of custom,
that in this particular instance custom is going
exactly contrary to his views. Finally, the most
rigid grammarian, pace COL. PRIDEAUX, would
certainly prefer "Seldom does one of them emerge"
to the periphrastic and cumbrous " It is seldom
that one of them emerges." THOMAS BAYNE.
Helensburgh, N.B.
ARABIC STAR NAMES (8th S. xi. 89).— If MR.
WILSON has not referred to that well-known,
learned, and most interesting work ' Mazzaroth,'
by Miss Frances Rolleston (London, Kivingtons),
it may be worth doing so. He will there find a
great many ancient Hebrew and Arabian star
names, and much curious information on the sub-
ject, as well as the names of ancient Arabian and
other astronomical works — it being a book that
has uever had full justice done it. A. B. G.
MB. T. WILSON should procure C. L. Ideler's
work, * Untersuchungen liber den Ursprung und
die Bedeutung der Sternnamen,' published at
Berlin in 1809. No other book gives this in-
formation so completely. The Arabic words are
given, but they are translated and explained in
German. W. T. LYNN.
Blackheath.
HIGH WATER AT LONDON BRIDGE (8th S. xi.
-The answer is obvious — mere practical
reasons. I do not know how old the phrase is ;
but quite clearly, whenever it began, there was a
scale of feet on a pier of the bridge— there may be
now for all I know — to which, the calculations
being made in London, it was easy to go for a
standard. It is really — I speak in all seriousness
— a subject worthy of inquiry why so many
modern searchers cannot be satisfied with an
answer of clear common sense, but must go about
to find a recondite one.
C. F. S. WARREN, M.A.
Longford, Coventry.
" Li MAISIE HIERLEKIN ' (8th S. xi. 108).— There
is much about the Knight Hellequin in Tyrrwhitt's
glossary to Chaucer, under the word meinie. The
Duke of Normandy, in pursuing some knights,
perceives a dance of people in black, and then
remembers the story of Hellequin and his followers.
These were apparitions who traversed the country
at night. Hellequin was a knight who, having
spent his substance in the wars of Charles Martel
against the Saracens, lived afterwards by pillage,
and was doomed to appear after death.
E. YARDLEY.
BISHOPS' WIGS (8th S. xi. 104).— I recently
acquired for a few shillings the wig worn by Dr.
Percy, Bishop of Carlisle 1827-1856. I had
always believed that his predecessor, Dr. Good-
enough, was the last Bishop of Carlisle who wore a
wig ; but the pedigree of this wig is undoubted.
I am told, however, that Dr. Percy only wore it in
the House of Lords. It is very dissimilar to the
great cauliflower wigs one usually associates with
bishops. In colour it is nearly black, follows
closely the natural shape of the head, and looks
rather like the close- cropped curly head of a negro.
It comes to a point on the forehead, and the ears
are well covered. Inside are three parchment
labels : (1) " Ravenscrof t, Bishops' Wig Maker";
(2) the Royal Arms ; (3) " Lord Bishop of Carlisle."
The Graphic last summer published a number
illustrating the early years of the Queen's reign :
one was a picture of the bishops paying their
respects to Her Majesty on her birthday. Some,
or all, of them (I write from memory) wore wigs of
this pattern. RICHARD S. FERGUSON.
" Peter Lombard," the instructive and amusing
gossip of the Church Times, says that the question
has recently been mooted as to the time when
Archbishop Sumner discontinued his wig. Some
say 1859, some say 1860. I heard the Archbishop
preach in St. Stephen's, Westbourne Park, in the
spring (before Easter) of 1859, and his Grace
certainly wore his wig on that occasion. In the
days when prelates wore wigs, hirsute appendages
were not so common as at present among the
clergy. Beards were few, and moustaches unknown.
The late Bishop Wilberforce (of Oxford and Win-
chester) did not object to whiskers, but disliked
these being of a " peculiar cut." One arrangement,
much patronized by High Churchmen, was a very
j short whisker, called at Oxford iu my time " the
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Anglican half-inch." But S. Oxon did object to
moustaches. A friend of mine told me that at
Cuddesdon, having received Deacon's Orders, the
bishop, in bidding him good-bye, said, " Mr. E.,
when you present yourself for Priest's Orders, pray
be a little less military in your appearance." Not
long ago I noticed an advertisement from a vicar
or rector wanting a curate. He intimated that
no lawn-tennis man, or one with moustaches only,
need apply. GEORGE ANGUS.
St. Andrews, N.B.
P.S. — In the Illustrated London News of
January 30 is given a likeness of Canon Taylor
Smith, Bishop of Sierra Leone. His lordship
wears a moustache, but neither beard nor whiskers.
INSCRIPTION (8th S. xi. 88).— The Latin words
are obviously wrong. " Levante " should be
lavans ; and the meaning then would be plain.
;< Dionysius, washing pot-herbs, sinks low in my
eyes." E. WALFORD.
Ventnor.
COIN (8th S. xi. 107).— A correspondent (4th S.
viii. 328) stated that "six and thirties" were
mentioned in an old arithmetic book of the early
part of the present century, and asked for further
information. Another correspondent replied that
the piece was of thirty- six grotes, issued by the
Hanse town of Bremen, and was in circulation in
North Germany, the value being about eighteen-
pence. MR. SAMUEL SHAW, of Andover, asserted
they were gold Portuguese coins, in circulation and
current in England early in this century, and that
there was a double piece current at 31. 12s., the
weights being close upon half an ounce and one
ounce avoirdupois respectively.
EVERARD HOME COLEMAN.
11, Brecknock Road.
m " FEER AND FLET " (8th S. x. 76, 166, 339, 422 ;
xi. 17, 113). — It seems to me that ferry-house is
almost certainly correct. " The house called
Ferry- house " is good enough for a surrender at a
/ourt Baron of 1897 — more especially as MR.
FERET has found a ferry-house in the neighbour-
hood. I suppose it might possibly mean fire-house ;
but then, as MR. FERET says, what does that
mean 1 Whereas we know well enough what a
ferry-house is. But how on earth can it mean
almshouse ? Modern etymology is a great deal too
much for me. Than this it is far more probable
that it is "Feret-house," and that the original
resting-place of MR. FERET'S ancestors has been
unexpectedly discovered.
C. F. S. WARREN, M,A.
Longford, Coventry.
u
DEAR KNOWS" (8tb S. xi. 5, 57).— The Kev.
F. Thiselton Dyer, in 'English Folk-lore,'
, pp. 224-5, quotes as follows from * N. & Q.,'
but does not give the reference :—
" T— of P— was on his death-bed. His wife sat by
his bed-side one night praying, when a light, about the
size of a penny candle, shone upon hia breast. The
priest of Carham, Northumberland, said it was a good
sign, and that he would go to heaven ; but my informant
Jack didn't seem quite so sanguine as the clergyman,
for he uttered that truly Northumberland ejaculation,
' Dear kens ! ' in a highly interrogative manner."
Is not the use of dear in "Dear me ! " similar,
" help " or some such word being omitted ?
F. C. BIRKBECK TERRY.
The term " Dear knows " is a variant of " God
knows," used as an adjuration — I call God to wit-
ness that such and such a thing is true.
LYSART.
OLD ARMINGHALL (8th S. x. 473, 523 ; xl 112).
— There seems to be but little chance of anything
now turning up to throw more light on the early
history of this interesting building. My present
object is in the mean time to correct some of the
erroneous statements which have appeared not
only in ' N. & Q.,' but in various other places.
Beginning with Blomefield, I may say at once that
his authority as to the porch is utterly worthless,
his language here, as in many other places, being
so confused that it seems to me almost impossible
to make out what he means. Next comes Cotman,
whose large etching, admirable as a specimen of
graphic art, is not altogether satisfactory as a
faithful representation of the elaborate detail of
the old sculptor's work, which is far better given
in the pencil drawing made by my sister in 1816,
i. e., just eighty-one years ago ; which I have
reason to believe is the only drawing in existence
which gives an accurate representation of the
porch as it then existed. I gave Mr. Mason a
facsimile copy of this, and he made use of it in his
* History of Norfolk,' as mentioned by MR. HOOPER
in his note of 26 Dec., 1896 (' N. & Q.,' 8th S. x.) ;
but the very reduced copy which he has given is
not satisfactory. That is doubtless in great measure
the fault of his artist ; but the blunder in giving
my sister a wrong name, " Elizabeth " instead of
" Fanny," which he had before him in large type —
" plain as a pikestaff" — is entirely his own. Nor
do I know how he got the date of the inscription
1487, for, unless T am greatly mistaken, the date
which I gave him was 1587, which was taken from
the copy made by my sister in 1816, when it was
doubtless more legible than it can be now, if,
indeed, any trace of it remains. This date cer-
tainly corresponds better with M*. WALTER RYE'S
conjecture.
As to the MS. note in Miss EYTON'S copy of
' Excursions through Norfolk,' it is hardly worth
serious discussion. However, as the writer con-
fesses it to be a " theory of his own "—and a very
poor theory it is ; indeed, about as far from the
fact as it well can be — there is no more to be said.
In conclusioD, I may add that the 'Anti-
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[8* 8. XI. to. 27, '97«
quarian Repository,' to which Chambers, with his
usual utter disregard of accuracy, and apparent
inability to copy the plainest printed document
before his eyes, refers, is no other than the great
and well-known work of Grose and Astle and
others, viz., the ' Antiquarian Repertory ' (4 vols.
4to,, 1807-9). F. NORGATE.
P.S. — I forgot to say that any one who wishes
to see what the old porch was like in 1816 will
find the drawing I have above mentioned very
accurately reproduced in vol. ii. of Green's ' Illus-
trated History/ p. 790, although, of course, con-
siderably reduced.
' MIDDLEMARCH ' (8th S. xi. 109).— Three things
are to be considered before MR. PALMER'S sug-
gestion is pronounced a probability : (1) whether
George Eliot is likely to have applied the name of
a whole district to one town ; (2) whether there is
any authority for the name Middle Mercia ;
(3) whether Mercia remained long enough in Eng-
lish to acquire the dialectic pronunciation Marcia ;
I doubt if such was the original A.-S. pronuncia-
tion. March means a boundary — perhaps Middle-
march is the Midland boundary— perhaps it is the
Cambridge town of March translated to the Mid-
lands ; in the absence of any evidence one guess
is as likely as another. Or, lastly, and most pro-
bably, though doubtless the first half of the name
refers to the situation of the town, the second is a
mere arbitrary and alliterative addition.
C. F. S. WARREN, M.A.
Longford, Coventry.
ST. DISTAFF'S DAT (8th S. xi. 105).— See the
article^ in 'The Book 'of Days/ i. 68. The name
was a jocular one, given for the reason suggested
in the note to Grosart's ' Herrick.' I know of no
literary use of the name except Herrick's ; but
under the name of "Rock day " the "festival" is
mentioned in Warner's ' Albion's England/ p. 121 :
' Rock, and plow modaies gams sal gang, with
saint-feasts and kirk-sights"; and in the article
referred to above there is a quotation from Burns
which appears to refer to a similar feast a little
later in the year : —
On Fasten's eve we had a rocking.
Rock— distaff. Minsheu, under "Distaffe," has :
" B. Rocke, spin-rocke. T. Rocken, H. Rue"ca.
Sic Ang. Rocke," &c. C. 0. B.
REV. THOMAS LOCKEY SOLEY (8th S. xi. 49).
— Thomas Lockey Soley was the youngest son of
John Soley, Esq., of Sandbourne, in Kidderminster,
co. Worcester, who died 17 Oct., 1730, aged fifty-
four, and was buried at Ribbesford by Elizabeth
his wife, daughter and sole heir of John Lockey,
of London, merchant (Nash, ' History and Anti-
quities of Worcestershire/ 1782, ii. 192, 272).
He matriculated from Wadham College, Oxford,
17 Feb., 1720/1, then aged seventeen, and pro-
ceeded B.C.L. in 1728. He was instituted to the
rectory of Northfield with Cofton, Worcestershire,
21 Aug., 1742, and died 27 Feb., 1779, aged
seventy-five years and six months. The following
arms appear on his monument attached to the
north wall of the chancel of Northfield Church :
Vert, a chevron per pale, or and gules, between
three soles naiant argent.
John Soley, Esq., of Sandbourne aforesaid (ob.
1775), buried at Kidderminster, married Elizabeth,
daughter of the Rev. Chancellor Lloyd and grand-
daughter of Dr. William Lloyd, Bishop of Wor-
cester. What relationship did he bear to the
subject of this note? DANIEL HIPWELL.
"DYMOCKED" (8th S. xi. 109).— In the West
Riding of Yorkshire the potato disease was generally
(if incorrectly) termed an epidemic. This was soon
contracted to demic, and to this day gardeners and
farmers, on the slightest sign of disease, say that
the potatoes are demicJced. JDymocked is apparently
merely a mispronunciation of this word.
T. B. J.
In the Isle of Axholme, where potatoes are
largely grown, the word is demmiched or demmicky,
and I have always understood that it refers to
epidemic, the name by which the potato disease of
1845 and subsequent years was generally known.
C. C. B.
ROBERT HALES (8th S. xi. 29).— Sir Robert
Hales was the son of Nicholas de Hales, of Hales
Place, in Halden, co. Kent, knight, Knight-prior
of the Hospital St. John of Jerusalem at that time
designated the Knights of Rhodes, Admiral of
the North Parts of England temp. Edward III.,
and made Lord Treasurer by Richard II. 1 Feb.,
1381. The rebels, under Wat Tyler, spoiled the
hospital, or famous college of the Knights of St.
John, by Smithfield, near London, took Sir Robert
Hales out of the Tower, and beheaded him on
Tower Hill 13 June, 1381. His house at High-
bury, "built like another paradise," was utterly
destroyed. From his brother Nicholas de Hales
were descended the Haleses of Woodchurch and
Breaksbourne, co. Kent, baronets, now extinct.
JOHN RADCLIFFE.
Sir Robert de Hales (from Norfolk) was Prior
of St. John of Jerusalem, Admiral of the North
Seas, Treasurer under King Richard II., whose
reign covers the date of 1381 A.D. ; he was brother
to Sir Nicholas Hales, of Hales Place, Kent, pro-
genitor of three lines of baronets, and was murdered
by Wat Tyler's crew. I see no mention of him in
the ' Diet, of Nat. Biog.' LYSART.
A LITERARY BLUNDER (8th S. xi. 125). — Mr.
Haweis's friend was different from the statesman
Charles Sumner. Surely the light of nature might
have shown this to any one. However, I find
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both men plainly enough in Allibone's f Dictionary
of Authors.' It is really a little hard that we
should be told every now and then to " write
briefly,'5 and then a whole column of ' N. & Q.'
should be given up to such a manifest absurdity as
this — nob even a blunder, for the statesman was
dead ten years before Mr. Haweis's first mention of
the other. C. F. S. WARREN, M.A.
Longford, Coventry.
POPE JOAN (8th S. xi. 88). — The silver grosso or
denarius of Pope Benedict III. is by no means
common. It fetched at the Rossi sale in Rome, in
1880, 160 francs, and would have been worth con-
siderably more had it been in better condition.
On the obverse is BE . PA . -f- scs PETRVS, and on
the reverse is HLOTHARIVS IMP PIVS. See ' Pro-
• fi_ ••• t t~*
mis, t. in. 12.
HARTWELL D. GRISSELL, F.S.A.
Oxford.
PRINCESS MATHILDE BONAPARTE (8th S. xi.
129). — Mathilde Lsetitia Wilhelmine Bonaparte,
daughter of Jerome Bonaparte and Catherine of
Wlirtemberg, was born at Trieste 27 May, 1820.
She was first engaged to her cousin Louis Napoleon
(afterwards Napoleon III.) ; but political events —
amongst them his imprisonment at Ham — inter-
vened, and she married, 1 November, 1840, a
Russian, Count Anatole Demidoff, who resided
much at Florence. He was created Prince of San
Donate in 1841 by the Grand Duke of Tuscany as
a reward for his commercial enterprise. He estab-
lished a silk factory at San Donato. Separation
between D6midoff and Princess Mathilde came
about in 1845, there being no children of the
marriage. The Emperor Nicholas of Russia,
ir charme par les bonnes graces de la princesse, qui
etait fille de sa cousine germaine, 1'entoura d'une
affection toute particuliere, et exigea de Demidoff
qu'il fit a sa femme une pension de 200,000 francs "
4Biog. Ge'ne'rale,' Paris, 1863; 'Etat Present de
la Noblesse Franchise/ Paris, 1868 ; f Une Annee
a Florence,' A. Dumas ; ' Armoriel,' Rietstap).
WILMOT VAUGHAN.
Paris.
Princesse Mathilde Laetitia Wilhelmine Bona-
parte married in 1841 Prince Anatole Demidoff
of San Donato. MATILDE POLLARD.
Belle Vue, Bengeo.
"ROUND ROBIN" (8th S. x. 391 ; xi. 130).— I
am sorry to find DR. CHANCE in error with regard
to my note on this term. " Round robin " in any
other sense than that of a petition was not in my
thoughts ; but DR. CHANCE assumes that I was
treating the expression generally. My view is not,
as he takes it to be, that the phrase, absolutely
considered, had its origin in the navy, for I knew
that this was not the fact. What I said was that
" the notion [that our people copied the " round
robin " method of petition from France], to be of
any worth, must be supported by evidence of a
date prior to 1659 ;* and it must be remembered
that the English expression [in the meaning under
consideration] seems to have had its origin in the
navy." The clauses in brackets express what
should have been evident from the context.
DR. CHANCE directs my particular attention to
the first and last of the references he supplies. I
was already acquainted with the quotations from
Fuller and Heylin as well as with one much
earlier from Coverdale, but they were wide of my
special purpose ; and as to his last reference, Mr.
Smiles's description of the 1643 petition as "the
famous round robin " is no proof that the term was
in use at an earlier date than the moment when
Mr. Smiles himself committed it to paper. Can
DR. CHANCE quote from a document of 1643 a
passage in which this petition is so designated ?
DR. CHANCE refers to my suggestion of roband
as a possible etymology for the expression (only, of
course, let me observe, in the sense of a petition of
nautical origin), but he ought to have noticed that
I almost nullified that suggestion by adding : " If
a small pancake is called a round robin in Devon-
shire, we have, perhaps, a better clue."
F. ADAMS.
106A, Albany Road, Camberwell.
DR. CHANCE must go much further back than
Fuller's ' Church History ' for the passage he
quotes about the " predie round robbin." On
9 June, 1536, Latimer preached one of his un-
compromising sermons, and on 23 June the Lower
House of Convocation indirectly replied to it, and
formulated a list of complaints as to the open
blasphemy of holy things, and so forth, alleging,
among other things, that "lewd persons were not
afraid to say, ' Why should I see the sacring of the
high mass ? Is it anything but a piece of bread or
a little pretty piece Round Robin ? ' " See Froude's
' England,' vol. ii. p. 477, quoting Strype's
' Memorials,' vol. ii. p. 260. I do not think the
full passage bears out the pancake theory.
JAMES HOOPER.
Norwich.
POTATOES AS A CURE FOR RHEUMATISM (8tts S.
ix. 248, 396, 438 ; x. 98, 145).— The following
appeared in Cassell's Saturday Journal, 18 March,
1896 :—
" The popular superstition that potatoes have special
curative properties in cases of rheumatism will probably
die hard. One life-long sufferer from that distressing
complaint has a queer collection of alleged ' cures '
* My authority for this date, promised in my previous
note, is : ' Two Discourses of the Navy, 1638 and 1659,'
by John Hollond (Navy Records Soc., vol. vii.), pp. 156,
159, the example already quoted being from p. 156.
That at p. 159 is : " If letters, round robins, &c., came
to the navy office they were immediately acquainted
therewith."
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s. xi. FEB. 27,
arranged systematically in a neat cabinet. One shelf is
devoted to a series of small, wrinkled objects, which
look and feel like large pebbles. They are not pebbles,
however, but potatoes which have become almost petri-
fied through being carried a long time in the pocket.
Each potato is marked with a small label bearing some
such inscription as this : ' Carried from Nov. 12, 1878, to
May 18, 1880. Very efficacious.' The collector claims
that the potato carried in the trousers pocket has proved
to be the best of the many remedies he has tried. He
carries one potato until the return of his rheumatic
twinges seems to testify to the decline of the tuber's
curative properties. Then he takes a new potato and
locks the old one up in his cabinet. This trousers-
pocket, or faith-cure habit, it should be eaid, applies
only to the Irish potato. The common potato baa, it is
maintained, no charm, except as food for a hungry man."
C. P. HALE.
THE JDXON MEDAL OF CHARLES I. (8th S. xi.
145). — We beg to offer a slight correction anent
the history of the Juxon medal. Your corre-
spondent states that "at the recent sale the
Trustees of the British Museum acquired the
medal for 7701." This is incorrect, as we purchased
the piece for 7701. for ourselves at the sale referred
to, and the Trustees of the British Museum have
since acquired it of us. We are not in a position
to state the precise sum they have paid for it, but
no doubt an inquiry on that point at the Museum
would be readily answered by the officials in charge.
SPINK & SON.
COL. HENRY MARTIN (8tb S. xi. 68).— Two
portraits of this man are noted at p. 197 of vol. v.
of the fifth edition of Granger's 'Biographical
Dictionary': (1) An original picture in the pos-
session of Charles Lewis, Esq., in Coxe's 'Tour in
Monmouthshire '; (2) an engraving (with his seal
and autograph) by J. Tuck.
T. CANN HUGHES, M.A.
Lancaster.
LICENSES TO EMIGRATE, 1635 (8th S. xi. 108).—
Possibly " The original lists of persons of quality,
emigrants, religious exiles, political rebels, serving
men sold for a term of years, apprentices, children
stolen, maidens pressed, and others who went from
Great Britain to the American plantations, 1600-
1700," may furnish the required information. A
copy of this work may be consulted in the Library,
Guildhall, E.G. EVERARD HOME COLEMAN.
ST. JOHN BAPTIST'S ABBEY, COLCHESTER (8th
S. xi. 147). — The document referred to by your
correspondent containing a drawing of the exe-
cution of the last Abbot of Colchester is in the
British Museum (MS. Egerton, 2164). I have
just had it reproduced, and it will form a frontis-
piece to the second volume of the Colchester
Chartulary which is being printed privately by
Lord Cowper for presentation to members of the
Roxburghe Club.
J. E. LATTON PICKERING, Librarian.
Inner Temple.
EVERLE : GYSBURNE (8th S. xi. 7).— John de
Spanton and William de Spaunton are mentioned
in the ' Cartularium Prioratus de Gysburne '
(Surtees Soc., vol. Ixxxvi.). W. C. B.
"GERT"= GREAT (8th S. xi. 6).—Gert or girt
thus used with the g hard is familiar to me as
occurring in the north of Yorkshire, Lancashire,
Westmorland, and Cumberland. A big girl in the
North Riding is called a "girt lass," and a stupid
lout is dubbed a "girt sammy raw-heead." Girt
is also used in the sense of familiar, friendly, :
intimate, as "they're varra girt tegither." For
transposition of letters compare girse for grass.
F. C. BIRKBECK TERRY.
Girt = great occurs in the Dorset dialect. Readers
of Wm. Barnes's ' Poems of Rural Life ' will
remember " The girt woak tree that 's in the
dell," " The girt wold house o' mossy stwone,"
" The girt wood vire "; or, again, " The girt glassen
house " of the " Lon'on vok." H. F. MOULE.
This is given in Mrs. Sarah Hewitt's * Peasant
Speech of Devonshire.' It is not given in the
4 Encyclopaedic Dictionary,' although gret, grete,
and grat are. D. M. R.
Also in North L:ncolnshire. J. T. F.
MEDALS FOR THK BATTLE OF THE NILE (8th S.
x. 376, 466). — I have one of these copper medals, i
which I purchased at the sale of Sir Alex. Davison's
effects at Swarland Hall (Northumberland) some
five-and-twenty years ago. One side shows the
French fleet at anchor, and the English ships;
taking up their positions in Aboukir Bay. En- i
circling them is " Almighty God has blessed His I
Majesty's arms," and below, " Victory of the Nile,
August 1, 1798." On the other side a female]
figure, holding a branch in her right hand, rests j
on an oval shield, on which is a half-length busti
of Nelson, with the legend, "Europe's Hope, and]
Britain's Glory." Encircling this, "Rear Admiral
Lord Nelson of the Nile." On the edge the
inscription already quoted. The artist's name is*
"C. H. Kruchler." In front -of Swarland Hall,
and close to the high road, Davison erected an
obelisk-shaped monument to the memory of Nelson.
On the body are the words, "England expects
every Man to do his Duty"; and on the pedestal,
"Not to commemorate the Public Virtue and the
Achievements of Nelson, which is the Duty of
England, but to the Memory of Private Friend-
ship, this Erection is dedicated by Alexander
Davison." The trees near it were arranged so as
to show the positions which the fleets occupied at
the battle. G. H. THOMPSON.
Alnwick.
RACHEL DE LA POLE (8th S. x. 516 ; xi. 94).-
I would add to my previous reply that in 1871
there was in the hands of a bookseller for sale a
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plan on parchment of the interior of the church of
Mucleston, co. Stafford, dated 5 Jan., 1565/6,
showing the position (or seating) for each
parishioner, with their_ respective names, John
and Thomas Eider
being then church-
W. I. R. V.
Meredith
wardens.
NOTES ON BOOKS, &c.
The Ruined Cities of Ceylon. By Henry W. Cave, M.A.
(Sampson Low & Co.)
BENEATH the all but impenetrable jungles of Ceylon lie
bidden the remains of one pf the most ancient of civi-
lizations— the most ancient of which England is the
fully accredited possessor and guardian. During long
centuries these have remained all but unvisited of Euro-
peans, and it is only of late that, under the direction
of the Archaeological Commission, serious attempts at
excavation have been carried out. Great gain has
attended the labours that have been accomplished.
Now, even, though the difficulties of travel are to some
extent diminished, the results of the explorations are
known to but few, and enormous tracts remain to chal-
lenge further research. The difficulties attending a
personal visit to the spots of highest interest are suffi-
cient to daunt all but the most energetic of the thousands
of Englishmen who, for pleasure or profit, visit the
island, and the names of Anuradhapura and Polounaruwa
convey little or nothing to European scholarship. Among
those who have visited the once mighty city of Anurad-
bapura — now represented by a few native huts — and
explored its remains is Mr. Cave, and the result of his
visit is apparent in the handsome and profusely illus-
trated volume before us. To the same writer we are
indebted for ' Particulars of Picturesque Ceylon,' a work
in three volumes, to which this is to some extent a
supplement. The earlier work reproduced by admirably
executed photographs the life of to-day in Colombo,
with views of temples, parks, fishing villages, and tea
plantations ; Kandy, with its unsurpassable tropical
scenery, which has won for Ceylon the reputation of an
Earthly Paradise ; and Nuwara Eliya, with its mountain
peaks, its foaming streams, arid its flashing cascades. In
place of these things we now have views of monuments,
the hugest in some respects that are due to human
labour — huge enough to have withstood the ravages of
time and to remain to throw contempt on our pigmy
efforts. Once more, for the purpose of preserving a
record of these things — of the huge gardens, now deso-
late, of the rock dwellings, and of the other features of
these rarely explored regions— Mr. Cave has employed
photography, his management of which places liim in
the foremost rank. Into the history of the spots he
depicts we may not venture. The task of narration calls
for knowledge we do not claim, as well as space we
cannot afford. We content ourselves with admiration of
the clearness of the atmosphere that is preserved and
the sharpness of the carvings which are reproduced.
In the illustrations lies the real value of the work, the
text doing little more than supply the information that
renders the views intelligible, though it gives also a few
particulars of travel and of residence in the picturesque
and comfortable little rest-houses erected by Govern-
ment in order to facilitate travel. At Mihintale, the
cradle of that Buddhist influence to which the Singhalese
we the constructive energy which they display in the
building of these vast cities and huge monuments, the
illustration of religious edifices begins. We had pre-
viously, however, seen, though the explanation was
reserved to the close of the volume, the magnificent
rock-temple of Aluwihari. At Mihintale, as elsewhere,
the impression conveyed is that of a natural hill, with
precipitous sides, covered with vegetation ; and close
observation is necessary to perceive that it is " a gigantic
ruined edifice, in the erection of which many millions of
bricks were brought to the top of the mountain and
carefully laid." Its height of a thousand feet is reached
by one thousand eight hundred and forty gigantic steps.
Of a picture of Maha Seya Dagaba, which for twenty
centuries has resisted disintegrating influences of time
and vegetable growth, Mr. Cave says, "Some idea of the
proportion of this dagaba may be gathered by noticing
that what appears to be grass upon the upper portion of
the structure is in reality a mass of forest trees that have
grown up from seeds dropped by birds." The Maha-
riegha garden, twenty square miles in extent, is depicted
as it last year showed. Of the Brazen Temple, erected
on sixteen hundred monolithic columns of granite, the
columns alone remain. It is, however, useless to con-
tinue mentioning buildings which, without the aid of
the illustrations, cannot be realized by the reader. We
can but recommend the volume to those interested in
antiquities, and in particular to those in whom archaeo-
logical knowledge or interest is combined with patriotic
sentiment and admiration for natural beauty. S;me
portions of the book are painful reading. Such is the
information supplied of the purely nominal rates at
which elephants, now scarce in Ceylon, are allowed to
be caught and deported.
The Poetry of Robert Burns. Edited by W. E. Henley
and T. V. Henderson. Vol. III. (Edinburgh, Jack.)
THE third volume of the superb "Centenary Edition"
of Burns of Messrs. Henley and Henderson has now
appeared, leaving but one volume more to complete the
work. Containing as it does the songs sent by Burns to
Johnson's 'Musical Museum' and Thomson's 'Scottish
Airs,' it comprises his loveliest and most familiar lyricp.
In the case of some of the songs contributed to the
latter miscellany Burns suffered to some extent, his editors
hold, from the academic tastes of Thomson, who himself
was a poetaster, and who urged Burns to write more
English than was good for him. At the time, however,
when, under the influence of enthusiasm, he began to
write for Thomson, his best days were past. " Mis-
fortunes, hardships, follies, excesses in fact and senti-
ment, success itself, so barren of lasting profit to him —
all these had done some part of their work ; and already
his way of life was falling into the sere arid yellow leaf.
With some happy exceptions, accordingly, the Thomson
songs are not in his happier vein." In the case of both
these collections the MSS. have been available for pur-
poses of collation to Messrs. Henley arid Henderson, who
have profited greatly thereby. Much valuable infor-
mation has also been gathered from old broadsides and
garlands. A "clandestine literature" of ballad and song
exists both in Scotland and England ; but the produce
of the Scots " poetical shebeens is vastly preferable in
the matter of melody and genius." This statement will
scarcely be disputed. Bnllad literature is emphatically
of Northern growth. The notes are numerous and
practically exhaustive. So numerous are they, they defy
either analysis or description. All that is known con-
cerning Burns's share in reshaping and altering popular
lyrics they tell us. In not a few cases, however, the
matter remains in doubt. As an instance how much
information may be given in a single note, we would
refer the reader to the observations, pp. 402 et seq., on the
' Red, Red Rose.' The new volume hap, of course, all
the attractions of its predecessors, and is delightful in
type and in execution generally. Its illustrations com-
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prise an engraved portrait from the picture by Alex-
ander Nasmyth in the National Portrait Gallery, a repro-
duction of the engraving by John Beugo in the Edinburgh
' Burns' of 1787, another of a silhouette by G. Burns Begg
of Motherwell, and facsimiles of "Does haughty Gaul
invasion threat?" and « Scots wha hae." For Southron
readers this edition remains incomparably the :st.
Demon Possession and Allied Themes. By the Rev.
John Nevius, D.D. (Redway.)
DR NEVIBS'S remarkable work on demonic possession has
now reached a second edition, which is ushered in by an
Tntroduction from the pen of the Rev. F. F Elhnwood
D D and accompanied by indexes of unusual extent and
value by Mr. H. W. Rankin. Much to our comfort the
fact that the work is a second edition dispenses with the
necessity of describing it at length, since it is a difficult
work with which to deal. During forty years DT Nevius
was a missionary belonging to some American Wesleyan
mission. During his long residence in China he came
across very numerous cases of what were held to be, and
at length commended themselves to him as, demonic
possession The belief in such appears to have been
general in the districts in which he dwelt In its early
ages his work is a record of cases ot the kind in which
the name of Jesus proved a cure as potent as m the
davs of the Gadarean swine. After mentioning the cases
he deals with explanations of the phenomena, holding,
as hold many of bis companions and disciples, that the
most spiritualistic interpretation is the best. Concern-
Dir the good faith of Dr. Nevius, who has now passed
nto the land of shadows, no doubt is permissible,
has entered deeply into the question with which he
lealp studied the works of the most erudite of his oppo-
nents and has displayed the possession of eminent
expository gifts, warped for good or for evil by more or
less conscious preconvictions. After summing up, m
chanter x , the character of the evidence he supplies and
the facts he holds it to have established, he deals with
the various theories of explanation. In regard to im-
Dosture he consults Hecker's < Epidemics of the Middle
Ages'- in respect of evolution, Tylor's ' Primitive GUI-
tare ' from which he quotes at some length. In dealing
with pathological explanations he takes an American
work of Dr. Wm. A. Hammond. The psychological
theory follows, and is succeeded by others, into which
we have neither time, ability, nor inclination to enter. In
endeavouring to establish a theory of modern miracles—
for to this, practically, it seems to extend— Dr. Nevius
arrays against himself not only the entire medical
profession, but many who would limit the domain of
purely scientific rule. His adversaries, even, are im-
pressed by his good faith and his sincerity, and by the
intense earnestness of his convictions. For ourselves, we
prefer not to enter into the subjects with which he deals,
and to content ourselves with announcing to the students
of the occult the appearance of a book which to them
at least, and not to them alone, makes earnest appeal.
Vint Records of British Flowering Plants. Compiled
by W. Tciarke, F.L.S. (West, Newman & Co.)
THIS useful and well-executed little work is reprinted,
with additions and corrections, from the Journal of
Botany It aims at showing the first mention of any
special flowering plant, drawn from the herbal*, and
from various botanical catalogues, compilations, and
other works. As a first effort in ti.s direction it is
greatly to be commended. It might, however, be very
much extended. We will supply Mr. Clarke with an
instance. In a note to his translation of ' Don Quixote,
1612 Shelton speaks of " Jasmines, a little, sweet, white
flower that growes in Spaine in hedges, like our Sweet
Marjoram." Besides showing when sweet marjoram was
known in England, it proves when — in some district?, at
least— jasmine was not.
La Langue Sacree ; La Cosmoglyphie ; Le Mystere de la
Creation. Par ^mile-Soldi. [Paris, Heymann.)
M. SOLDI will please those of our readers who take
interest in early religions, with their strange signs and
symbols, and in the tracing of the undoubted similarities
which exist between these symbols in parts of the world
so far removed from one another as Japan and Gaul,
or Egypt and Yucatan. M. Soldi is not one of those
gentlemen who have hunted to death the ideas of some
writers on Rosicrucianism, as it has been called ; but, on
the other hand, he is not, we imagine, sufficiently learned
in Egyptology and Hellenism, or Americanism, to be
able to avoid a good many traps. His book, which is
the first volume of a great series, is plentifully illus-
trated, and contains enormous numbers of cuts, which,
although ill arranged, and with many pitchforked in
which should have no place in the volume, would, never-
theless, be of the greatest utility to real students if they
could be thoroughly trusted ; but then the references are
in many cases not sufficient. For example, drawings
jire given from stones which are not accompanied by
references to thoroughly well-known and solid works, and
it is impossible to be sure that the drawing is accurate
and unaccompanied by an exaggeration which the author
himself admits he has found to exist in the work of
many of his predecessors.
MESSRS. GIBBINGS & Co. promise ' National Ballad
and Song,' a complete anthology of English, Scotch, and
Irish lyrics prior to the year 1700, edited by John S.
Farmer. ' Musa Pedestris,' already noticed in our pages,
will rank as the first volume. 'Merry Songs,' five
volumes of which are in type, will. follow, and be suc-
ceeded by 'Songs of Legend and Romance," Political
Songs,' * Military Songs,' &c. A faithful reproduction of
text is guaranteed, and other features will appeal to
connoisseurs and book-lovers.
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LONDON, SATURDAY, MARCH 6, 1897.
CONTENTS.— N° 271.
NOTES :— Amelia Opie, 181 — Biblical Chronology, 182 —
'The Cries of London '—First Inter-University Cricket
Match— German Catholic Chapel, 183-" Dispatch "—Bow
Street Police Station— Curiosities of Criticism, 184— Death
of a Highland Chieftain-The " Barghest "-Burial I of a
General of 1700, 185— Sneezing— Kaleghana— Will of Samt-
^vremond, 186.
QUERIES :— Gambardella — Georges-Jean Mareschal — Tur-
ner Engravers — English Historical Rhymes — Pepys —
Quartering the Royal Arms of Scotland—" Here 's to the
Mayor of Wigan "—Prayer Book of Charles I., 187— Watson
—Genius— Baron Wallace— Date of Shakspeare Concord-
ance—Virgil's Epitaph, 188— Wooden Pitchers—' Journal
des Dames ' — " Joffing Steps " — " Lazy Lawrence " —
Modern Jacobite Movement, 189.
REPLIES :—" Tryst," 189— Knights of St. Lazarus— " She,"
190— Chloroform— Wyvill— Church of Scotland— Scottish
Craftsmen, 191— Layman— Carved Adders— John Andre-
Keck— Petworth Registers— Will of Henry VI.— George
Herbert, 192 — James I. — Orme's Cutlery— ' Night and
Morning'— Wm. Butler, 193 — Timbrell— " Aceldama "—
" Forester " — Cartwright's ' Royal Slave ' — The German
Diet—' Belshazzar's Feast '—Eagles Captured at Waterloo,
194 —Honeysuckle — Mr. Ranby's House at Chiswick —
Stowe MSS.— Legal Documents, 195— "Talos"— SS.Cyria-
cus and Julietta, 196— George Morland, Senior— Hun gate
—"Getting up early," 197— The Grosvenor— " Gnoff e "—
Baron Robartes— ' Vicar of Wakefield,' 198.
NOTES ON BOOKS :— Renton's ' Encyclopaedia of the Laws
of England ' — Hunter's ' The Thackerays in India ' —
Andrews's ' Legal Lore '—Pierce and Wheeler's ' Dickens
Dictionary '— ' MSlusine '— ' Intermgdiaire '— ' Giornale di
Erudizione.'
Notices to Correspondents.
AMELIA OPIE. '
Amelia Opie was bora on 12 November, 1769,
at Norwich. Her father, James Alderson.
M.D., a well-known physician, died in October,
1825. She commenced writing in 1796, when she
produced her first work, a novel in two volumes,
entitled ' The Dangers of Coquetry.' On 8 May,
1798, she married John Opie, the painter, who
died on 9 April, 1807, when she returned to Nor-
wich to live with her father. On 11 August, 1825,
renouncing the Unitarian faith in which she had
been brought up, she was formally received into
the Society of Friends at Norwich, and henceforth
spent part of her time in works of charity. She
died at Castle Meadow, Norwich, on 2 December,
1853. The following letters, addressed to Mr. and
Mrs. Dawson Turner, the originals of which are in
my possession, have not, so far as I can ascertain,
ever appeared in print. The first letter shows
Amelia Opie in a gay mood, the second in her
Quaker garb. I cannot find any mention of an
intimacy with the Turners in C. L. Briyhtwell's
' Memorials of A. Opie/ published in 1854, a book
deficient in dates and without an index. Dawson
Turner, F.R.S., was the well-known banker, anti-
quary, and botanist, who died on 20 June,
1858. He was a Unitarian, and probably an old
acquaintance of Dr. Alderson.
The sentence in the first letter about taking Mr.
Holmes to " the Hall " refers to Earlham Hall, the
residence of Joseph John Gurney, a well-known
personage, with whom Amelia Opie was on the
most friendly terms, so much so that he became
her mentor and adviser in her change from Uni-
tarianism to Quakerism. Cotman's * Normandy '
spoken of is a folio work entitled " Architectural
Antiquities of Normandy, by John Sell Cotman,
1820-21, with Historical and Descriptive Notices
by Dawson Turner." Cotman himself was a Nor-
wich man, and died in 1843. As to who the
lady was who was a scholar and could sing in
Hebrew I should be glad to obtain some parti-
culars. " Mousehold " refers to Mousehold Heath,
near Norwich, a spot which has been frequently
the subject of the painter's art.
Mr. Battey, mentioned in the second letter, is a
person whom I have not been able to find in Perry's
Bankrupt and Insolvent Gazette. At this period
the bankruptcy laws ordained that it was necessary
for every one of the creditors to sign a certificate
before a bankrupt could obtain his discharge and
again start in business, and this rule sometimes
caused considerable hardship. There is a well-
known Cornish case which fully illustrates this
point. Eichard Oxenham, a merchant and banker,
and at one time High Sheriff of Cornwall, fell into
commercial difficulties in 1818, and was incarcerated
in the King's Bench Prison. He might soon have
been released, but one of his creditors and a
relative, George John, a solicitor — having been
deceived in making some advance of money, or, at
all events, thinking that he had been— refused to
sign the discharge papers, and Oxenham was still
in the Debtors' Prison in 1826.
Lucy Aggs referred to was a minister among the
Friends, who died in January, 1853. The "evil
days " spoken of must allude to the passing of the
Reform Bill, a subject then in every one's mind,
and a measure which some people thought would
lead to the ruin of the United Kingdom.
Norwich, Sunday, llth of Aug., 1822.
DEAR MADAM, — I take the earliest opportunity that
baa occurred since my return of sending you the ring
which I mentioned to you & which still appears to me
more like the Duke of Wellington than Chautrey'a draw-
ing, but of this you will be able to form a better judg-
ment than I can do. I found my father as well as I
expected to find him ; that is full of complaints at first,
out his uncomfortableness gradually went off, & I had
the satisfaction of learning that he had had a great deal
of company in my absence.
Mr. Holmes breakfasted with me yesterday, & wag
full of delight at having received a letter from his wife,
n answer to one enquiring concerning the growth of
ais child, as it contained amidst the writing a drawing
of the dear babe asleep, which shews considerable ability,
& he means that I should have it & shew it to you one
day.
After breakfast I took him to Mr. Clover's, to the
Sail, to the exhibition, to Wilkin's on the wall, to my
Uncle's & to Mr. Neville White's. I apologized to him
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XI. MAR. 6, '97.
for not asking him to dinner & at three we parted, to
meet again at tea.
My father who had conversed with him, while I
equipped myself for our walk, had I found, taken a
fancy to him, much to my satisfaction & we passed a
pleasant evening together. Mr. Holmes had sent poor
Cotman's Normandy for us to look at, & I admired
it much, but I had seen certain buildings given, in my
opinion better, by another pencil at Yarmouth (I believe
I should say pencils).
So your nightingale en chef is the linguist also !
Little did I think when I called her one of the Sweet
Singers of Israel, that she could have given me "By the
waters of Babylon " in the Hebrew. I wish I had com-
mitted the manner, in which she gave the chaunts to
memory. I am unused to chaunting & while I sing
them I miss the go of the notes as well as the exquisite
tones, in which they were uttered, but the former will
come in time, the latter never.
Mr. H. comes to us again to-morrow evening to meet
Mr. Clover. He is to dine with Mr, Neville White. I
do not know what becomes of him to-day, would I could
have asked him hither ! I should have taken him over
to breakfast at Earlham to-morrow if there had been
any one of the family at home, but they are all gone to
Winston (or Hunston ?).
Catherine Sparehall tells me that she & her brother
went away from your house ashamed of their past idle-
nesa & regretting that they had allowed so much of
their youth to pass by unimproved. They are still young
enough to profit by the salutary repentence & the useful
example, and even I am comforted by the proverb that
" one is never too old to learn."
But I am not sure that I have done wisely in visiting
you, as there is another proverb which says " Who
never drinks is never dry," and till my visit to you, I
could not know the extent of the pleasure, association
with you and yours under your own roof would afford
me. But now !— however the mail goes fast and the fare
is low.
I have thought much of our various conversations &
with great interest & I wish to remind you that the
lute harp is a very pretty substitute for a great one &
more convenient for a small house. The last improve-
ment of it, is a considerable one, there is more space
between the wires & fewer frets & the price is onlv
20 guineas I think.
I have only one regret, besides that of not having
Btaid longer with you, when I look back on my ex-
cursion to Y. & that is, that I went to the ball that
cruel Mr. Holmes is for ever boasting of his superior
enjoyment during that evening, I was a goose not to
return to you after I had seen & spoken to those I
wished to see. I mean to challenge Mr. H. to walk
with me on Mousehold to-morrow morning if he can
leave business, but perhaps I ought not to tempt him
from pounds, shillings & pence, however, nous verrons
nnd he is Mr. Dimsdale's partner. I like Mr 1)'
much He married, you know, Mrs. J. J. Gurney's &
Mrs. Bnghtwm s first cousin. What a long letter I and
on what paper, but I had nothing in the house & it is
Sunday.
With kind regards to you all & many thanks for
your flattering reception of me,
Believe me
Dear Mrs. Turner
Most truly yrs,
A. OPIE.
This letter is addressed to "Mrs. Dawson
Turner, By favor of Mr. J. Sparshall."
Norwich, 2nd M. 6th, 1832.
DEAR FRIEND,— I am going to take a great liberty
with thee & ask perhaps, an improper favor of thee
& one which, as a man of business, thou canst not
grant, but both Lucy Aggs & myself are interested in
the applicant whose advocate I am & also in the suc-
cess of the application.
I atn requested by a young man of the name of Battey
to entreat thee to sign his certificate I ! J Thyself and
a gentleman named Mill?, are he says the only creditors
who hold out & he hopes that after four years of suffer-
ing, thou wilt have pity on him !
I feel very sure that it is not for thy own pleasure
that thou hast held out, but that thou wast actuated by
a sense of justice, though I know not the merits of the
case. I feel also sure that if thou canst with propriety
befriend this poor man thou wilt, and most earnestly do
I desire that it may be in thy power.
The young man is married & is an excellent hus-
band, and as he has a child every year, he is moat
anxious to be able to get into business again. This is
my case & I hope for a verdict.
Let me take this opportunity of thanking thee for thy
last obliging communication & of assuring thee that
my wish to have another copy of the etching of mvself
was gone before yr. answer arrived & that I should
be really sorry if thy memory was ever burdened by
the request, even for a moment after thy answer was
written.
' We are fallen upon evil days " I know not, & much
wiser folks than I am know no more than I do I believe
what the result will be.
Pray remember me affec'ly to thy good lady & family
and believe me Thy obliged friend
AMELIA OPIE.
This letter is addressed to "Dawson Turner
Great Yarmouth." Post - mark : "Norwich*
Feb. 6, 1832." Postage, sixpence.
GEO. C. BOASB.
86, James Street, Westminster, S.W.
EARLY BIBLICAL CHRONOLOGY.— Ifc is well
known that there has been a wide difference of
opinion with regard to the four hundred (or four
hundred and thirty) years during which the
Israelites are said to have been in bondage in
Egypt ; for some take these years to include the
stay of Abraham and his son and grandson in
Canaan before Jacob went down into Egypt. This
view is founded upon the Septaagint reading of
Ex. xii. 40, 'H Se KaToiVqo-is ruv vluv 'lo-pawA,
rjv KaryKYjcrav h yrj Myvirry /cat ev yjj Xai/aai/,
cry TCTpa/coVia rpiaKovra [some codices add
Trei/re]. This seems to be borne out by the state-
ment of St. Paul (Gal. iii. 17) that the law was
given on Mount Sinai four hundred and thirty
years after the covenant with Abraham. On the
other hand, in the speech of St. Stephen (Acts
vii. 6) the duration of bondage in a strange land is
said (as in the promise to Abram, Gen. xv. 13)
to have been four hundred years.
Prof. Sayce in his recent work (< The Egypt of
the Hebrews and Herodotos ') accepts (p. 38) this
latter view from the Hebrew text, which, as he
says, is very explicit. The date of the Exodus was
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
183
in all probability in the thirteenth century before
Christ ; and this will carry back that of the going
down into Egypt whilst Joseph ruled that country
to about the beginning of the seventeenth century,
which was, he thinks, soon after the accession of the
last Hyksos dynasty in Egypt. But here I should
like to point out that Prof. Sayce is at variance
with Prof. Mahler, of Vienna, who has, he says,
determined certain dates in Egyptian history by
astronomical considerations. What dates Prof.
Mahler has determined, with the help of data
furnished by the monuments (Sayce, p. 17), I do
not know. But I have consulted his 'Biblische
Chronologie und Zeitrechnung der Hebraer,' and
find that he there claims to have settled by astro-
nomy two important dates in Biblical history in a
way which shows that he does not take Prof.
Sayce's view in this matter. I must confess
that the considerations he has brought forward
appear to me to be very fanciful. He thinks that
the horror of great darkness which fell upon
Abram (Gen. xv. 12) was caused by a large eclipse
of the sun ; and having calculated that one
occurred in Canaan (the magnitude of which was
11 '5 digits, making it very nearly total) on
8 October, B.C. 1764, he fixes that as the date of
the covenant with Abram. He then explains the
difference between the four hundred and four
hundred and thirty years by supposing that the
latter commence with the covenant or promise and
the former with the birth of Isaac, which he takes
to be thirty years afterwards. He further under-
takes to determine the date of the Exodus by
identifying the miraculous darkness (one of the
plagues of Egypt, and the last before the destruc-
tion of the firstborn) with another large solar
eclipse which occurred 27 March, B.C. 1335, and
was, he finds, smaller in the land of Goshen than
in the Delta. As no eclipse could last anything
like the amount of time assigned to the darkness,
Prof. Mahler suggests that the fright caused by it
led the Egyptians to keep in their houses for three
days and nights after the occurrence. But, as
remarked in the Observatory for April, 1894
(vol. xvii. p. 146), this would be attributing to
them a timidity much greater than that of the
most barbarous nations, who generally soon recover
their spirits when the eclipse is over. However,
by this means Prof. Mahler assigns B.C. 1335 as
the date of the Exodus, and B.C. 1764 as that ol
the promise to Abraham, or about four hundred
and thirty years between the two events. He, in
fact, places the date of the covenant only about
forty years earlier than that assigned by Prof.
Sayce for the migration of Jacob and his sons into
E^ypt. W. T. LYNN.
Blackheath.
' THE CRIES OF LONDON/ — There has not long
since appeared in Paris a translation of " The Cries
of London as they are daily exhibited in the
Street, with an Epigram in Verse adapted to each.
Embellished with 62 elegant cuts, to which is
added a description of the Metropolis in verse.
London, Newbery, 1799." The title in French is,
"Les Cris de Londres, au XVIII6 Si&cle Par
A. Certeux, Membre fondateur de la Soci^te" des
Traditions Populaires. Paris, Chamuel, Edibeur,
29, Rue de Tre*vise, 1893." Those who are curious
in books on London may take an interest in this.
I have not seen another copy besides the one
which I have. There are 183 pages.
ED. MARSHALL.
FIRST INTER-UNIVERSITY CRICKET MATCH.—-
The first cricket match between the universities of
Oxford and Cambridge was played in 1827. Fifty
years afterwards, namely, in 1877, a grand dinner
took place at the Cannon Street Hotel, to which all
were invited who had played for either university.
A hundred and fifty dined together. There were
then six living who had taken part in the original
match, and there is still one survivor — in good
health, I am happy to say — namely, Mr. Herbert
Jenner-Fust (formerly Jenner), the famous wicket-
keeper, who on that occasion captained the Cam-
bridge eleven. The others happened to be all
clergymen. The Rev. W. G. Cookesley, the well-
known scholar and ex-Eton master, who played for
Cambridge, died in 1880; the Rev. J. Dolphin
(Cambridge) died in 1889 ; the Rev. J. J. Papillon
(Oxford) also died in 1889; the Rev. E. Pole
(Oxford) died in 1890. Finally, Charles Words-
worth, Bishop of St. Andrews, died 5 Dec., 1892.
He managed the Oxford team in this first match,
and two years afterwards, namely, in 1829, he
rowed in the first inter-university boat race.
PHILIP NORMAN.
GERMAN CATHOLIC CHAPEL, GREAT ST. THOMAS
APOSTLE, Bow LANE, CHEAPSIDE. — This chapel
is now entirely demolished, but not forgotten by
those who had the pleasure of assembling within
its walls. The exterior was unpretentious, but
the interior was unique, and the worship of the
most reverential and solemn kind. The chapel
was very small, holding about four hundred people.
It had three galleries— one eventually was partly
used for the organ and choir — a sacristy, confessional,
and a pulpit on the side to the right of the altar.
There were three services on Sundays, viz., High
Mass at 11 in the morning, in the afternoon at 5
Vespers and Benediction, and in the evening at 7
Rosary and Benediction; full services on holy
days, and the service of Complin on the Wednes-
day evenings of Lent.
The Rev. Joseph Verres, D.D., the present
clergyman of the German Catholic Chapel, 47,
Union Street, Commercial Road, E., London,
gives me the following information. He says, " I
think there is plenty of material, but during the
many years I have been here I have been
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fully occupied, so that I have found no time for
researches in the old papers and books. The
German mission is certainly one of the oldest in
London, as it dates from 1809 (but whether the
chapel existed prior to that time, and had been in
the hands of another party, I cannot glean ; it had
the appearance of a Dissenting place of worship).
There being very few Catholic churches in London
in the early part of the century, it played an im-
portant part, and the old baptismal registers show
that many foreigners besides Germans were in the
habit of attending. If I am not very much mis-
taken, it was in this church that the Confraternity
of the Kosary was first established, and the old
books of the confraternity show large numbers of
English and Irish names."
In 1863 the old church in Great St. Thomas
Apostle had to be given up. An old Protestant
chapel was bought and ornamented at great cost,
but unfortunately in 1873 the building collapsed '
and a new church had to be built, more with a
view to usefulness than beauty, though during the
last ten years much has been done to make the
church handsome. JAMES PILE.
3, Hardman Square, Bolton Street, Bury.
" DISPATCH," NOT " DESPATCH." — The following
note by Dr. Murray is from the Oxford Times of
6 February : —
"In concluding his communication to a London con-
temporary] Dr. Murray calls attention to the word ' dis-
patch,'of which he eays the proper spelling with 'dis'
was used by all writers for three hundred years, down
to the earlier part of this century, when the blundered
form ' despatch ' began to be substituted by some. He
hopes that now that the history of the word is fully
exhibited in the dictionary, the correct spelling will be
universally adopted, and the diversity of spelling the
word come to an end."
ED. MARSHALL.
the 'good old times,' when Seven Dials was Seven Dials,
and D'ury Lane Drury Lane, be had seen in the passage
adjoining these old cells, as many as a dozen men, on
a Saturday night, waiting for the doctor to stitch up the
wounds fustained in one of the many riots which took
place in that district when he was a young constable.
' Many a time,' said he, 'I and others have had to take
the boots from men who were kicking the doors and
keeping the other prisoners awake.' In a woman's cell,
a large metal plate on the wall bears letters indicating
that it divides the parishes of St. Paul's, Covent Garden,
and St. Martin's-in-the-Fields."
F. E. J.
CURIOSITIES OF CRITICISM.— I copy a curious
example of criticism from D'Israeli's delightful
' Amenities of Literature.' It was hardly possible
for the writer, at that date, to have written other-
wise ; but how curiously unlucky the whole of it
has turned out to be !
This is how he discourses on the poems of
Chaucer : —
"Are we then no longer to linger over the visionary
emotions of the great poet in the fine portraitures of
his genius from his youthful days, when the fever of
his soul, not knowing where to seek for its true aliment,
careless of life, fed on its own sad musings, in ' Chaucer's
Drome ' [which he did not write], or, onwards in life,
in the ' Testament of Love ' [which is not his], that
chronicle of the heart in a prison solitude? Has all
the enchantment of the moonlight land of chivalry and
fairyism in ' The Ploure and the Leaf ' [which is not
his] vanished ? Are we no longer to listen to ' The Com-
plaint of the Black Knight' [by Lydgate], which touched
a duchess or a queen ; or the stanzas of ' The Cuckoo
and the Nightingale ' [by Clanvowe], which musically
resound that musical encounter?"
GRADUAL DISAPPEARANCE OF Bow STREET
POLICE STATION. — The following account of the
disappearance of Bow Street Station, a spot that
has witnessed many stirring historical scenes, is
taken from the Daily News : —
"Old Bow Street Police Station is being demolished
fast. Its grim old porticoes and dust-covered windows
still present a stern front to the modern and sprightly-
looking Floral Hall on the other side of the road, but it
is being attacked in the rear by demolishers, and stone
by stone the front is being reached, and will meet the
same fate as the building at the rear. A large ware-
house will be erected on its site, which belongs to the
Duke of Bedford. When the new police-station at Bow
Street was built — some fifteen years ago — the building
now being demolished was used as a kind of barracks for
single policemen. About twelve months ago the lease
fell in. The old charge room is now filled with lumber;
the dock in which the prisoners stood has disappeared ;
the cells, aa black aa night, and each iron-lined cell door
covered with rust, are not yet demolished. Gaoler White,
going over them yesterday with a Bow Street reporter,
saw some rusty keys hanging to an old gas bracket. He
exclaimed, * Ah ! here are the old keys,' and told how, in
And yet again, we have the following remarks :
" On a particular occasion, the poet submitted to the
restraint of equal syllables, as we discover in ' The Court
of Love,' elaborately metrical, and addressed to 'hia
princely lady,' with the hope that she might not refuse
it for lack of ornate speech. It is evident, therefore,
that Chaucer bad a distinct conception of the heroic or
decasyllabic verse."
This has to be taken in connexion with a pre-
ceding sentence : —
"It is evident that Chaucer trusted his cadences to
his ear, and his verse is therefore usually rhythmical,
and accidentally (!) metrical."
We here see that the critic was quite unable to
see anything regularly metrical in Chaucer's poetry ;
and, indeed, the old editions made such wild work
of the final e that the poet's astonishing regularity
was effectually concealed. But he saw also, on the
other hand, that one of the poems, viz., ' The Court
of Love,' was perfectly regular, even in Stowe's
edition of 1561. The reason is simple enough,
viz., that Stowe knew perfectly well how to scan a
poem of the Tudor period, and hence had no diffi-
culty in printing a poem of the same period so as
not to destroy its metre. This is why the verse
was, for once, so "elaborately metrical." It is
odd that the critic never thought of so simple a
solution. WALTER W. SKEAT.
8th s. XI. MAR. 6, '97.]
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185
DEATH OP A HIGHLAND CHIEFTAIN. —
"James Macgregor, a Highland chieftain, who
latterly lived in very poor circumstances, died in
January, near Auchterarder. Deceased, who was born
1st August, 1818, was the last descendant of Gregor
Ghlun Dhu (Black Knee), who in 1745 received a com-
mission from Prince Charles as colonel in the army and
commander of the fortresses of Doune, Cardross, and
Ballanton,all in Menteith, and bad obtained from James,
fourth Marquis of Montrose, a feu charter of the lands
of Glengyle at the west end of Loch Katrine. James
MacGregor was the eldest son of the late John Mac-
Gregor of Glengyle, and the head of the ' Clan du'i Chiar,'
one of the principal houses of the Clan Gregor, being
twelfth in descent from Dougal Ciar, the ancestor of his
line. He sold the property of Glengyle in 1860 to the
late Mr. James MacGregor, formerly of the Queen's
Hotel, Glasgow, brother of Mr. Donald Macgregor, of
the Royal Hotel, Edinburgh. The late Glengyle was
unmarried, and is succeeded in the representation of the
house of Dougal Ciar by Mr. Norman Macgregor, brother
of the late Sir Charles Metcalfe Macgregor, K.C.B., de-
scended in direct line from Robert Macgregor of Inver-
snaid, the celebrated Rob Roy, uncle of ' Ghlun Dhu.'
As no near relations survive, arrangements were made
by several of the clan, headed by Sir Malcolm Macgregor
of Macgregor, for the conveyance of the remains of the
late chieftain to the family burying-ground at Glengyle
House on Loch Katrine, where he was laid to rest beside
his forefathers." — Perthshire Advertiser.
Glengyle was a tall, handsome man, and amidst
his poverty had all the appearance and bearing of
a gentleman. A, G. KEID.
Auchterarder.
THE " BARGHEST." — This word, variously spelt
barghestf barguest, barghaist, &c., is well known as
the name of a goblin or evil spirit widely prevalent
in the Northern Counties (see Henderson, l Folk-
lore of the Northern Counties/ p. 239). Strange
to say, no satisfactory account has yet been given
as to its origin. Grose derived it from bar and
gheist, and then defined it accordingly as " a ghost
commonly appearing near gates or stiles [bars]."
Sir W. Scott conjectured it stood for bier-ghost,
Dan. baare geist, in which Mr. Atkinson (' Cleve-
land Glossary,' s. v.) followed him. Dr. Murray
(' N. E. D.') connects it doubtfully with Ger. berg-
geist, a mountain demon, which the barghest was
not. The * English Dialect Dictionary ' refrains
from offering any suggestion. Now the barghest
seems to have been originally a churchyard hob-
goblin ; in Cumberland it is " a boggle that haunts
burial-places" ('E. D. D.'). I therefore suggest
that barghest is the folkish pronunciation of bargh-
ghest (the colliding gutturals naturally running
together), bargh being, the common Northern word
for a low ridge or hill, a " barrow " (0. Eng. beorh,
beorg), formerly a sepulchral mound or tumulus.
Bar and bargh were formerly used in Derbyshire
for a hill and a hill path (Pegge, ' Derbicisms/
E.D.S.). Thus barghest is a survival of the Old
Norse " barrow-ghoat," a sort of bloodthirsty vam-
pire which was believed to haunt barrows or
' Saxo-Grammaticus ' (Folk-lore Society edition),
p. Ixvii. The Sagas tell of fearful encounters
with the ghosts of buried Vikings, who still
keep something of their savage state within the
barrows (Du Chaillu, 'The Viking Age'). The
spirit of Thorolf Bb'gifod walked after his burial
in a tumulus, and gave much trouble, frighten-
ing the cattle and driving them mad (J. F.
Vicary, ' Saga Time,' p. 250). In other words, he
became a bargh-ghest, or "barrow-ghost." We
may compare Icel. bjarg-vcettr (?" barrow-fetches"),
friendly sprites inhabiting the hills. The first
element of the compound would readily become
brag, which is a synonym for the goblin in North-
umberland. With the form bar-ghest we may com-
pare bar-master and -mote for bargh-master and
-mote. The Danish synonym of bar-ghest is hoi-bo ,
" how-dweller," or " barrow-ghost": —
" The occupant (of a hoi or mound) was termed hotbo
or dweller in the tumulus, and a very unpleasant neigh-
bour he frequently became if he walked again (gik igjeri)
after death. His reappearance caused dread and mischief.
Kaar was buried in a hSi, and reappeared after
death, and killed the live *tock or frightened them
away."— J. P. Vicary, • Saga Time,' p. 227.
" Glam, as a hb'ibo, or vampire, broke open the
door of the common hall " (ibid., 230). Like the
bar-guest he had terrible glaring eyes (ibid.).
This Scandinavian word survives in the hog-boy
hog=haugr, " how"), a goblin which inhabits the
Maes-how of Orkney (see D. Mac Ritchie, ' Testi-
mony of Tradition,' p. 107). " Barrow," a grave
mound, is not common in early English. The
earliest instance of it on English soil is berg,
on a Runic monument found at Thornhill, in
Yorkshire (700-800 A.D.), which mentions that
"Igilsuith reared becun at bergi," a beacon at
the barrow (G. Stephens, ' Handbook of Runic
Monuments/ p. 248). A. SMYTHE PALMER.
South Woodford.
A GENERAL OF 1700 A.D. JUST BURIED. —
Until somewhat recently travellers whose business
or pleasure led them to Reval, upon visiting the
Lutheran Church of St. Nicholas, used, in an
adjoining chapel, to have exhibited to them, as one
of the most interesting and attractive lions of the
place, a withered and mummified form, enclosed
in a case with a glass lid. This was the body of
no less a person than Charles Eugene, Due de
Croix, who commanded the Russian troops before
Narva in 1700. He suffered defeat and fell into
the hands of the Swedes, who removed him to
Reval. There, in 1702, he died. As he had
received no allowances during his two years'
captivity, he was found to be in debt at the time
of his decease. His Reval creditors were pitiless,
and insisted on much more than their pound of
flesh, for they caused the entire corpse to be
arrested in the church until payment should be
burial mounds. As to this barrow-ghost, see ] made. No moneyed friend was at hand, therefore
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s. xi. MAH.
no burial wa«i granted. It thus came to pass that
the poor Duke's body remained above ground.
Strange to relate, decomposition does not appear
to have taken place ; the flesh dried and shrank
on the bones, and the mummified corpse has been
preserved in this condition for nearly two hundred
years. Most readers of ' N. & Q.' are probably
familiar with this history, variants of which are
doubtless to be found in guide-books and else-
where ; but it may be worth recalling now for two
reasons. Imprimis, it adds a striking instance to
those cited in ' N. & Q.' of " arresting a dead body
for debt "(see 8th S. ix. 241, 356; x. 63), and
shows that that evil practice obtained also under
Swedish rule. [I do not know whether Prof.
Stephens, in * Ghost- thanks' (8td S. x. 63), mentions
De Croix's case.] And, secondly, it is pleasant
to record that an officer's dead body, however old,
will serve as a raree-show no more. The Russian
command of " earth to earth " has gone forth, and
the Revalscher Beobachter now states that on the
15/27 January the final interment took place.
The shrivelled " remains " (apt word, for there was
not much left) were respectfully laid in a new
coffin, bearing a metal plate with the Duke's name,
rank, and date of death, and in the presence of the
local governor, vice-governor, and town authorities
were lowered into a vault specially built for their
reception. Now at last E.I.P.
H. E. MORGAN.
St. Petersburg.
SNEEZING. — -I am told that a sneezer in Silesia
was formerly saluted with " Gott sterke Ihre
Scbb'nheit ! " to which the customary response was
" Ich danke ftir die Hoflicbkeit "; upon hearing
which the first speaker would continue to rhyme
as follows: "Es ist nicht meine Hoflichkeit
sondern meine Schuldigkeit Ihnen zu dienen alle
Zeit." I belong to a family which might outdo
Leviathan in neesing. Some members of it have
been informed that sternutation is a good prophy-
lactic against fever ; if so, the hereditary gift; is
certainly u not to be sneezed at."
ST. SWITHIN.
RALEGH ANA. — A recent discovery made by Dr.
T. N. Brushfield, M.D., the indefatigable collector
of ' Raleghana,' ought to be briefly noticed in
* N. & Q,,' for its remarkable bearing upon the
method of the late Mr. John Payne Collier as
applied to historical evidence. This is the draft
of a letter which Collier worked up into a com-
munication to the Society of Antiquaries (printed
in Archceologia, xxxiv. 160-170, 1851), and which
has hitherto been held by some of Ralegh's bio-
graphers to furnish convincing evidence of the
truth of the statement put forward in Camden's
'Annales,' to the effect that it was the circum-
stance of an intrigue between Sir Walter and one
of Elizabeth's maids-of-honour, Elizabeth Throg-
morton, who subsequently became Lady Ralegh,
which led to the withdrawal of the queen's favour
from him. The evidence produced by Collier is,
in fact, the only confirmation of this piece of
scandal, which probably originated with the king
(James I.), to whom Camden submitted the second
part of his work (not published until nine years
after Sir Walter's execution), for His Majesty's
correction, &c. Of course, a private letter dealing
with this particular piece of gossip could not fail
to carry weight ; but beyond the transcript printed
in Archceologia no eye has ever seen it, and its
existence rests entirely upon Collier's credibility.
What that is worth is conclusively shown by Dr.
Brushfield, who is in possession of Collier's MSS.,
and amongst them of the original draft in his auto-
graph of the document in question. Between this
draft and the version in Archceologia there is just
sufficient difference in wording and phrasing to
show that, so far from being original, contem-
porary evidence to be relied upon, the whole thing
is a figment of Mr. Collier's inventive ingenuity,
another evidence, not of Ralegh's turpitude, but
of the commentator's moral perversity.
ALFRED WALL is.
WILL OF SAINT-£VREMOND. — I have lately
written a short life of Saint-^vremond for the ' Dic-
tionary of National Biography,' and it has struck
me that his will — which has never hitherto been
published, so far as I have been able to discover —
might interest your readers. I obtained a copy
from Somerset House in the course of my investi-
gations:—
"I underwritten Charles de St Denis Dugast Lord
of St Euremond dwelling in the parish of St James
Westm'r being in very good sound memory and under-
standing arid being willing to dispose of what goods I
shall have left after my death First I beg the mercy of
God and doe committ my soul into hia hands I leave to
my testamentary executor the course to see my body
interred without pomp after the manner which be shall
think most convenient I give to the poor French
Refugees the sume of twenty pounds sterling I give to
the poor Catholicks or of other religion whatsoever the
sume of twenty pounds sterling I give to my servant
William for the care which he bath taken of me during
my sickness and the good services which he hath ren-
dered unto me the sume of fifty pounds sterling and the
few cloaths which I have I give to my servant maid the
sume of fifteen pounds sterling besides the wages which
shall be due unto her I give to the servant maid who
hath left me the sume of five guineas I give to Jasper
who served me formerly the sume of ten pounds sterling
I give to Charles another servant the sume of ten pounds
sterling I give to my ancient porter the sume of six
pounds sterling I give to the other porter bis son in law
four pounds sterling I give to Mr De Meseau the sume
of thirty pounds sterling for the bookea which he
supplyed me with or for the dealings which we have had
together about learning the said sums to be paid six
months after my death by my testamentary executor out
of the moneys he shall have received I give to Million
who served madam the Duchess Mazarin the sume of
fifty pounds sterling to take out of what shall come unto
me of the four hundred guineas which I lent to Madam
8th S. XI. MAR, 6, '97.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
187
the Dutchess Mazarin and which are lawfully due unto
me as she alwaies acknowledged it as well during the
sickness whereof she dyed as likewise before Mr Wright
the Notary I give to Madam de la Perrine the like
sume of fifty pounds sterling to take alsoe of what shall
accreu out of the said debt of Madam Mazarin I give to
Doctor Silvester the sume of fifty pounds sterling to take
alsoe upon the debt of Madam Mazarin I give to Mr.
Paul Bower the sume of forty pounds sterling to take
alsoe upon the debt of Madam Mazarin the said sumes
payable by my executor when he shall have received
more I give to Mrs. Bague the sume of fifty pounds ster-
ling to take upon the debt of Madam Mazarin Moreover
I give to Mr. Paul Boyer ten pound sterling to take out of
the first money which shall be received out of my other
effects I give to my Lord Gallway the sume of sixty
pounds sterling for a ring desiring him to accept thereof
and that 1 should make him as I doe make him by these
presents and name him my testamentary executor his
heires executors or administrators And by virtue thereof
to receive whatsoever shall be due unto me And to pay
alsoe according to my present testament which I will
may be good by way of codicill of Donation by reason of
death and other by law makeing void and revoking all those
which I might heretofore have made In witness whereof
I have sealed and signed with my hand with my usueall
signe the present testament in the presence of witnesses
at London the four and twentieth August one thousand
seven hundred and three SAINT EUREMOND Witnesses
Lewis Brodeau Charles Pelleguin."
Proved 27 Sept., 1703.
FRANK T. MARZIALS.
We must request correspondents desiring information
on family matters of only private interest to affix their
names and addresses to their queries, in order that the
answers may be addressed to them direct.
GAMBARDELLA. — Would any of your readers
kindly give dates of birth and death (if dead) of
the portrait-painter Gambardella, who lived in
Sussex Place in I860? EVELYN WELLINGTON.
Apsley House.
GEORGES- JEAN MARESCHAL. — Pendant le regne
de Charles I., un gentilhomme Irlandais (ou peut
etre Anglais), nomine* Mareschal (Georges-Jean),
e*migra en France ; en 1643 il etait officier dans un
Regiment Stranger au service de Louis XIII. En
consultant, dans les ouvrages spe'ciaux, les ge'ne'a-
logies des families nobles anglaises, irlandaises ou
e'cossaises du nom de Marescha), constate-t-on
dans Tune d'elles, entre les ann^s 1625 et 1643,
Immigration ou simplement la disparition de ce
Georges-Jean Mareschal 1 Ce gentilhomme anglais
fut le trisaieul paternel du marquis de Bievre, qui
son esprit rendit fameux a la cour de Louis XVI. ;
il serait interessant de savoir a quelle famille
anglaise se rattache le " pere des calembours."
UN CHERCHEUR FRANC.AIS.
TURNER ENGRAVERS. — I should be much obliged
f any of the readers of ' N. & Q.' could say when
W. Annis, J. 0. Easling, and Thomas Hodpetts
died ; or whether any of them were living after
1837. ALGERNON GRAVES.
6, Pall Mall.
ENGLISH HISTORICAL RHYMES.— Can any one
tell me where to get the English history rhymes
beginning —
The Romans in England first held away,
The Saxons after them led the way ;
They tugged with the Danes till an overthrow
They both of them got from the Norman bow ?
THE UNMISTAKABLE.
THE PRONUNCIATION OF PEPYS. — I find that
Mr. H. B. Wheatley, who has as intimate an
acquaintance with Samuel Pepys as any living
man, calls the unheroic hero, Peeps. I would
fain know why. Is there any tradition, or rhyme,
or other reason which gives authority for that pro-
nunciation ? I have hitherto favoured the same
practice as Mr. Ashby Sterry, who wrote in the
Graphic of 21 Nov., 1891, p. 606 :—
There are people I 'm told — some say there are heaps—-
Who speak of the talkative Samuel as Peeps ;
And some so precise and pedantic their step is
Who call the delightful old Diarist, Pepys ;
But those I think right, and I follow their steps
Ever mention the garrulous gossip as Peps !
I know not how I came to do this, and I have no
confidence in my correctness. Lord Cottenham's
family name is, I am told, rendered Pep-pys ; one
would, fancy that something authoritative might
be learned from a branch of the tree which bore
Samuel himself. ST. SWITHIN.
RIGHT TO QUARTER THE ROYAL ARMS OF
SCOTLAND. — Can any one of your readers inform
me whether there are any families who have the
right to quarter the royal arms of Scotland with
their own, except the royal family ; and if so, who
are they and why ? ARMIGER.
Exmouth.
"HERE'S TO THE MAYOR OF WIG AN."— Can
any one give the origin of a Lancashire saying,
when friends touch glasses before drinking, and
say, " Here 's to the Mayor of Wigan, that is, our
noble selves " ? X. H.
THE PRAYER, BOOK OF CHARLES I. — This
relic, which was used by King Charles I. at his
execution, is a folio work, partly black-letter,
bound in russia leather, originally purple, but
now much faded. The arms on the cover are said
to be those of the Elector Palatine, afterwards
King of Bohemia, who was killed at the Battle of
Prague — impaling his wife's arms (Princess Eliza-
beth, daughter of James I., sister to Charles I.).
The title-page is wanting. On the leaf of the
preface is written : " King Charles I.'s own Prayer
Book" and " Ex Libris Biblioth Presby Dumf
Ex Dono Joan Button M.D. 1714." On the title-
page of the Psalter is " Carolus R,," supposed to b8
4" *•» •« 4 ,
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the autograph of the unfortunate monarch. On
the lower part is "Imprinted by Robert Barker,
Printer to the King's Most Excellent Majestie by
the assignees of John Bill, 1634." This book is
reported to have been given by the king to Dr.
Hutton at the time of execution, and was by him
presented to the Presbytery of Dumfries as a relic.
But this could not be the case, as sixty-six years
elapsed between the death of the king in 1648 and
the gift to the Presbytery in 1714. Again, Dr.
Hutton came to England with William III., to
whom he was Physician General, and is mentioned
as such in Burnet's ' History.1 The doctor would
become possessed of the Prayer Book by other
means. It disappeared from the Presbytery at
Dumfries, and somehow came into the possession
of a gentleman named Maitland, and upon his
death, when his library was offered for sale, the
book was put up for public bidding. A consider-
able sum was offered, out it was deemed inadequate,
and the volume was bought in and retained by the
widow. Upon its appearance at the sale the Pres-
bytery of Dumfries declared that the book had been
surreptitiously removed from their library, and
threatened proceedings at law to recover it. They
were only deterred from instituting them by their
inability to show how they lost the possession ; the
law of Scotland requiring that as the first step
towards reclaiming movable property. When Mr.
Maitland's widow died it was again offered for sale
at the rooms of Mr. Thomas, in King Street,
Covent Garden. Before putting it up Mr. Thomas
declared that if its authenticity should be invali-
dated within a month, the purchase- money would be
returned. No doubt of its being genuine appeared
to have been entertained, and the biddings com-
menced at forty guineas and rose to a hundred,
when it was bought for that sum by a Mr. Slater.
Can any one continue its progress up to date ?
HILDA GAMLIN.
Camden Lawn, Birkenhead.
WATSON. — Can any reader give me information
of Jonathan Watson, of Ringshall, co. Suffolk, died
and buried there in 1803 ? Of whom was he the
son and grandson ? P. A. F. S.
DEFINITION OF GENIUS. — I should be glad to
be referred to the genuine source of that character-
ization of genius which stamps it as an " infinite
capacity for taking pains," or words to that effect.
It is sometimes attributed to Dr. Johnson, some-
times to Goethe, to Carlyle, and others. I cannot
find it in Bartlett's « Quotations.' R. B. B.
[See 4'h s. ix. 280, 374, 393, 449, 522; 5«* S.xi. 47, 75 :
xii. 68. 97, 132, 157, 195, 213, 337; 6*h8. iv. 513: xi.
89,190; 7'h S. iii. 84.]
THOMAS, BARON WALLACE. — " 1828. d.s.p.
1844. Extinct." Having occasion to look up
this nobleman's name, I found the above in the
Index Society's ' Index of Titles of Honour,' and
on turning up the * Annual Register ' for 1844 I
find a very full account of his life, s.-y. " Deaths,"
23 February, p. 213. Is it too late in the day to
correct an error at p. 215 that puzzled me a bit?
It is there stated that
"Lord Wallace married, 16 February, 1844, Jane,
Dowager Viscountess Melville, who had been the second
wife of Henry, first Viscount Melville, and previously
Lady Jane Hope, sixth daughter of John, second Earl of
Hopetoun. This lady died without issue, 9 June, 1829,"
— fifteen and a quarter years before she was
married ! Somewhat startling. In the * Dictionary
of National Biography,' vol. xvi. p. 190, s.-y.
" Dundas, Henry, first Viscount Melville," we find,
" He married secondly, on 2 April, 1793, Lady Jane
Hope, sixth daughter of John, second Eirl of Hopetoun,
by whom he had no issue. His second wife, surviving
him, married, on 16 February, 1814, Thomas, Lord
Wallace, and died on 29 June, 1829."
In the * Annual Register ' for 1814, s.v. " Marriages,
—February," p. 124, we find " Right Hon. Thomas
Wallace, M.P., to Jane, Viscountess Melville."
Where can I get any further information about
Lord Wallace than what is given in the * Annual
Register ' for 1844 ? J. B. FLEMING.
Kelvinside, Glasgow.
DATE OF SHAKSPEARE CONCORDANCE. — When
did Mrs. Oowden Clarke's well-known Shakespeare
concordance first appear ? A copy, published by
W. Kent, Paternoster Row, which lies before me,
sadly wants the date of its publication. From an
entry respecting the year when this copy was
acquired I infer that this popular work came out
in 1865, or before that year. H. KREBS.
Oxford.
[According to the 'Diet. Nat. Biog.' it was produced
in 1845.]
VIRGIL'S EPITAPH. — An article on ' Virgil as a
Magician,' by K. V. Coote, appears in Good
Words for October, 1896, in which the following
statement is made : —
"The urn which held the ashes of Virgil was of
marble, supported on nine small pillars, and stood alone,
opposite the entrance. It bore this inscription :
Mantua me genuit, Calabria me rapuit, tenet nunc
Parthenope ; cecini pascua, rura, duces.
(Mantua gave me birth, Calabria snatched me from life ;
Parthenope has my ashes, I sang of pastures, fields, and
shepherds.) The urn has long ago disappeared, but a
modern stone, bearing the same inscription, has been
placed where it stood."
What authority has the writer of the article for
the first line of the Latin couplet quoted above ?
He seems to be unconscious that the line should
be a hexameter,
Mantua me genuit, Calabri rapuere, tenet nunc.
At least I have never seen the line given otherwise.
Moreover, surely his (or her) translation of the
word duces, in the second line, is wrong. It should
be translated " chieftains," or some such word. I
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have always understood " pascua, rura, duces " to
refer to Virgil's ' Eclogues,' ' Georgics,' and
'^Baeid,' respectively.
F. 0. BIRZBECK TERRY.
WOODEN PITCHERS.— The gargon at the quiet
middle-class hotel my father used to put up at on
our journeys through Paris used to replenish the
ewers from a large wooden pitcher. I presume
these must have been in more or less general use
before the introduction of the zinc ones. They
were not straight sided like the above, but bellied
like the ewers. I saw one, in October, 1886,
under the verandah of a lodge-like cottage at the
top of Ladderem Cove, a gap in the cliffs between
Budleigh Salterton and Sidmouth, Devon. I
should be glad to know where these wooden
pitchers are, and have been, in use, and the local
names they go by both in this country and abroad.
THOMAS J. JEAKES.
* JOURNAL DBS DAMES.' — I have a pair of
coloured costume plates, quarto size, representing
groups of girls playing battledore and shuttlecock
and hide and seek. The imprint is that of the
Journal des Dames, Paris, no date. Was this
publication originally issued in quarto form ; and
do the plates mentioned form part of a set ? The
British Museum has only two volumes, 1824-5,
and these are octavo. ANDREW W. TUER.
The Leadenhall Press.
"JOFFING STEPS." — In the London Magazine,
vol. xlviii. p. 247, June, 1779, there is an account
of the burning by lightning of the spire and church
of Chart Sutton, Kent. The notice is illustrated
with a print of the west end of the church and
tower ; there is also the churchyard wall, against
which and close to the western gate are some steps,
which still remain, intended probably to enable
women who rode on a pillion behind their hus-
band or groom to mount the saddle with little or
no assistance. These steps are described as " joffing
steps." Never having met with the word before,
perhaps some reader of * N. & Q.' may be able to
tell me what the exact meaning of the word is,
and whether it is a local word or some antiquated
and bygone expression.
CHARLOTTE G. BOGER.
Chart Sutton.
" LAZY LAWRENCE." — The late Mr. E. B. James,
in his recently published * Letters on the Isle of
Wight,' vol. i. p. 30 seq., traces this proverbial
expression to the hero of a popular tale, * Lazy
Lawrence of Lubberland.' Where is this tale to be
found? A. S. P.
MODERN JACOBITE MOVEMENT. — Has the
modern Jacobite movement any official organ or
publications ? In what book, or books, can trust-
worthy information regarding Legitimism or
Jacobitism be found ? P.
"TRYST."
(8th S. xi. 127.)
This word is pronounced in Scotland with the
y long. No Scotsman— unless, as a worthy farmer
said, he had been out of his native element for
three weeks and living in a town — would ever
think of sounding the word as if it rhymed to
"fist" or "twist," but would make it correspond
in length and open fulness to "priced" and
" sliced." The term was early used in the sense
of cattle market. When the Queen of Fairyland,
proffering " an apple frae a tree " to True Thomas,
assures him that the effect of his eating the fruit
will be perfect immunity from falsehood, she finds
that she has thrilled a very sensitive chord :—
" My tongue is mine ain," true Thomas said ;
" A gudely gift ye wud gie to me !
I neither dought to buy nor sell,
At fair or tryst where I may be."
" The repugnance of Thomas to be debarred the
use of falsehood, when he might find it convenient,"
not only has "a comic effect," as Sir Walter
Scott says (' Minstrelsy of the Scottish Border/
iv. 120), but it is also pointedly and pungently
satirical. The casuistry of merchandise has always
been a very curious element in human activity.
Falkirk trysts were formerly three great yearly
cattle fairs in the autumn months, but, though
they still recur regularly, their size and importance
have greatly deteriorated through the establish-
ment of numerous marts throughout the Country.
At present the use of the noun " tryst " is pro-
bably not so common as that of the verb. There is
no difficulty in hearing that a man was " trystit " to
meet another at a given hour, although it is hardly
probable that their engagement would be called a
"tryst." A lovers' appointment is still occasion-
ally so designated in rural districts. Referring to
a youthful merry-making, Principal Shairp uses
" trysting," with tact and archaic appropriateness,
in his pathetic and haunting ballad 'The Bush
aboon Traquair': —
They were blest beyond compare,
When they hold their trysting there.
THOMAS BAYNB.
Helensburgh, N.B.
Two words have been confused. The Northern
tryst, as in "to keep tryst," "to break tryst is
allied to trust. In trust, the u was originally long,
as also in dust, rust (A.-S. dust, rust) ; and the y
was originally long in tryst. Hence the y is long
by tradition in Scotland. Such long sounds are
usually shortened before st, as in dust, rust. In
the one exception— viz., CWrf-tbe ^ remains long
by tradition.
But there was an O.F. tristre, tnste (with short
i\ M, E, triste, which meant " an appointed station,
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a hunting term. Hence, I believe, the notion of
"place of appointment." See Chaucer, 'Troil.,'
ii. 1534 ; and my Glossary to Barbour's ' Bruce.'
This French form should have been noted in my
* Dictionary.' WALTER W. SKEAT.
KNIGHTS OP ST. LAZARUS (8m S. xi. 88). —
This Order was instituted upon a charitable account,
viz., to cure persons infected with the leprosy. They
had assigned to them a famous hospital in Jerusa-
lem, called St. Lazarus, for the reception of lepers.
Through the incursion of the Saracens this Order
was almost extinct till the Latin princes joined
together in a holy league to expel them out of the
Holy Land. These religious men entered into
martial discipline, and performed great service,
insomuch that they gained fame and esteem of
Baldwin II., King of Jerusalem, in whose time
they flourished under the government of a Great
Master. In 1150 they made their vows of obedience,
poverty, and charity before William, Patriarch of
Jerusalem, and submitted themselves to the Order
of St. Benedict. Before they entered into the
Order they were to prove themselves born in wed-
lock, of Christian parents, gentlemen by the father's
and mother's side, also to be of an unblemished
character. By a Bull sent from Pope Innocent
VIII., in 1599, they were to be joined, with all
their possessions in France, to the Knights of
Rhodes ; but the Bull issued for that purpose was
not received in France. In 1572 Pope Gregory XIII.
united those of the Order in Italy with that of St.
Maurice, then newly instituted by Emanuel Phila-
bert, Duke of Savoy ; and in 1608 this Order was
united in France to that of our Lady of Mount
Carmel, which had been instituted by Henry IV.
The Knights of St. Lazarus and those of Mount
Carmel are allowed to marry, and at the same
time to possess pensions charged upon ecclesiastical
livings. The badge of the Order was a green
cross, like that of Malta, made of gold. The
badge of the Order of St. Lazare and Mount
Carmel— which was revived in France in 1607 by
King Henry IV. — was a cross of eight points
enamelled green, in the angles four fleurs-de-lis,
with the figure of the Virgin Mary and Jesus in
the centre of it, worn pendent to a violet watered
ribbon round the neck, and a green worsted or
silken star of eight points embroidered on the
outer garment on the left side. For a further
account of this Order see ' History of Knighthood,'
by Hugh Clark, London, 1784, vol. i. p. 241.
WM. JACKSON PIQOTT.
Dundrum, co. Down.
K. F. will find sound information in 'Les
Lepreux, et les Chevaliers de St. L. de Jerusalem,'
Eugene Vignat, Orleans, 1884. I would also
recommend him to glance at Moeshen * De Medicis
Equestri dignitate ornatis.'
The Order was founded by Baldwin II., King;
of Jerusalem, in 1129. Gregory XIII. united it
to the far more recent Order of St. Maurice of
Savoy. The French (Provencals*), to whom it
was especially dear, were not affected by this,
however, and Henri IV. is said to have joined it
to the Order of Mount Carmel. In antiquity,
therefore, it ranks third among the military orders ;
being eleven years later in its institution than the
Templars, and sixteen later than that of the
Knights of St. John of Jerusalem (Rhodes, Malta,
&c.).
The patron saint of lepers, as St. Lazarus was
held to be, doubtless attracted numbers of Crusaders
suffering from " shanker," ergot, elephantiasis, &c.
In a deed (1226) witnessed by Pietro delle Vigne,
Chancellor to the Emperor Frederick II., establish-
ing a grand priory of this Order at Capua, the
knights are sworn to observe chastity and obedience,
to help the poor and widows, to assist lepers, and
to fight the infidel.
For the subject of leprosy and the theological
confusion of Lazarus, the friend of Jesus, and
Lazarus of the parable (cf. Heb. Eliezar), examine
' Lilium Medicines ' of Bernard de Gordon of Mont-
pellier (Monte-pessulano), 1285-1320; 'Compen-
dium Medicines' of Gilbertus Anglicus, book vii.;
and Creighton's ' Hist, of Epidemics in England,'
1891. ST. GLAIR BADDELEY.
THE PRONOUN "SHE " (8th S. xi. 48, 116, 158).
— The appearance of so formidable an antagonist
as PROF. SKEAT with an etymology of this word
which is new to me necessitates my again writing
in these columns in defence of my own theory,
which I pride myself upon chiefly because it
is the most simple and natural possible, viz., that
our three pronouns, he, she, it, are the same as
the Anglo-Saxon he, heo, hit. Now, on the
other hand, we have PROP. SKEAT with a device
even more improbable and far-fetched than the
one I attacked in my last letter. With all its
faults, that old etymology, at any rate, had one
point in common with mine, that it made all our
pronouns alike English by descent, whereas the
new one makes them a mongrel lot, composed of
masculine and neuter Anglo-Saxon and feminine
Icelandic. As to the change of sja into sho, I
think I will assume that to be possible, although
I believe there is no other case on record of a
similar consonantal change in the passage of an
Icelandic word into English. The main objections
to sja are : (1) As already stated, it is Icelandic ;
(2) it is the rarest of rare words ; (3) it is not, like
heo, a personal pronoun, but is, like seo, an article ;
(4) it is not feminine, but common to the masculine
and feminine genders. Why go out of our way to
* St. Lazarus was patron of Marseilles, and is usually
represented in art as a bishop, accompanied by Mary
and Martha,
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invent a monster like this when we have such a
simple alternative as I suggest ? MR. BIRKBECK
TERRY reminds us of the existence in Lancashire
of two modern forms side by side, hoo and shoo ;
according to my theory these are both from Anglo-
Saxon heo, one preserving the h, the other changing
it to sh. But PROF. SKEAT must perforce believe
that while hoo is A.-S. heo, shoo is Icelandic sja.
Is this credible ? Another point is that of Shet-
land, or, as it used to be also called, with the Old
Scotch z for y, Zetland, pronounced Yetland.
According to my theory that palatalized h can
change into sh, both are the Icelandic Hjaltland,
the former with the change of h to sh, the latter
losing the aspirate and keeping the Icelandic j
(pronounced y). But, as I understand PROF.
SKEAT, by his championship of the other explana-
tion of she, does not believe in the change of h to
sh, how does he explain these two forms ? Is Zet-
land or Yetland Icelandic Hjaltland, and Shetland
something else ? It must in the nature of things
be a long while before my old friend Dr. Murray
can get to this word she, and as the settlement of
its history is of the utmost importance, I venture
to hope the Professor will give us a longer state-
ment on it, including some consideration of what
I have advanced above. JAS. PLATT, Jan.
THE FIRST USE OF CHLOROFORM IN ENG-
LAND (8th S. xi. 146).— The "specific claim" made
for 10 Jan., 1848, cannot be maintained. Chloro-
form was used in the Charing Cross Hospital on
Monday, 29 Nov., 1847, and the fact is recorded
in the Illustrated London News of 4 December
following, pp. 370-2, and the paragraph is quoted
in the 'New English Dictionary,' s.v. "Chloro-
form." It seems to be forgotten that the 'N. E. D.'
is compiled on " historical n principles, and that it
therefore serves in many cases as a concise and
exact encyclopaedia. W. 0. B.
WTVILL (8ta S. x. 336; xi. 37, 113).— As this
is a very scarce name, it may interest your querist
to know that a Rev. John Wyvill, M.A., was
rector of Fulham for a few months in 1714. He
was educated at Trinity College, Cambridge, where
he graduated B.A. in 1701, and M.A. in 1705.
Se died in 1717. If this person is of interest to
him, I can give him more information if he will
communicate with me direct.
CHAS. JAS. FERET.
19, Edith Road, West Kensington, W.
CHURCH OF SCOTLAND (8th S. xi. 27, 97).— In
'2, upon the death of Dr. Norman Mac-
Leod, one of the Queen's Scottish chaplains,
the then Archbishop of Canterbury addressed a
rrnal letter to the Moderator of the General
Jembly, condoling with the Church of Scotland
pon the loss sustained by the death of Dr.
lacLeod, and his Grace said that " the Christian
Church could at any time ill spare such a pastor."
Evidently the archbishop recognized the Church
of Scotland as part of " the Christian Church."
During my time here (twelve years), at least two
bishops — to say nothing of other clergymen — of
the Anglican Church have preached and officiated
in the Scottish parish churches. Other bishops,
now dead, did this in former times. The late
lamented Archbishop of Canterbury (Dr. Benson),
when on a visit to Scotland some few years ago,
attended divine service on Sunday morning in the
parish church. The late Bishop Thorold, when a
clergyman (before he was bishop), attended and
partook of the sacrament in a parish church in
Edinburgh. On the other side, a distinguished
divine of the Church of Scotland has preached,
and on one occasion delivered an address to
candidates for the diaconate and priesthood, in the
chapel of an Episcopal palace in England.
GEORGE ANGUS.
Sfc. Andrews, N.B.
Does not MR. SPENCE state his case rather too
strongly when he writes that " the Presbyterian
Church of Scotland" was "recognized" by the
canons of 1604? James VI. was bent upon
restoring bishops, but he set to work cautiously.
The order of bishops was recognized by an Act of
1597, and they were admitted as presidents of
diocesan synods in 1609. But, as MR. SPENCE
points out, they were not bishops or priests at all,
but Presbyterian preachers only. The episcopal
office was not conferred upon them until 1610.
But the matter was ripening all this time, and the
Church must be regarded as " Episcopal " then in
design — and even in some sort in form too-^-and
that is the Church for which the canon sets forth
a prayer now.
Hastings.
EDWARD H. MARSHALL, M.A.
SCOTTISH CRAFTSMEN (8th S. xi. 68). —Probably
in no part of the United Kingdom are to be found
more artistic and picturesquely carved tombstones
than in numbers of the old burying-grounds in
Scotland. From the time of James to about 1747
Scotland possessed a number of excellent stone
and wood carvers, who thoroughly understood and
entered into the true spirit of the Jacobean style of
ornament. Is it possible that George Heriot
might have any influence in his time upon the
carvers ? It would be interesting to know if any
of these craftsmen's names have been handed down
to us. When a youth, in 1856, I had the good
fortune to visit Scotland along with Gilles
McKenzie, an enthusiastic antiquary of Scottish
relics, and also an excellent craftsman as an en-
graver. We made many sketches from these early
interesting stones. Numbers of them had beautiful
borders, representing the vine, the oak, and the
ivy, well-known emblems, others had panels with
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cherubs' heads carved in low relief, some had
shields on which were carved the scythe, the hour-
glass, &c. , and often on the top of the stone was
carved a crown, emblematical of glory, and, as your
correspondent W. B. T. says, on these slabs in
many instances appeared the familiar implements
of the deceased man's trade. The lettering upon
some of these early stones is simply beautiful and
far more artistic than that which is found carved
on the costly granite obelisks, &c. , that so often
cumber the modern burying-grounds. I have
revisited from time to time these old graveyards,
and regret I found numbers of the stones had been
removed or had perished. It would be of interest
to know if Old Mortality has kept a record of these
early artistic memorials ; if not, the time has
arrived when it should be done, to secure the few
remaining relics and show to future generations
the simple and instructive mementos which were
placed over the remains of the departed worthies.
CHARLES GREEN.
20, Shrewsbury Road, Sheffield.
LAYMAN (8th S. xi. 106).— The use of the word
as meaning "a non-professional person of any
sort " is, within limits, quite correct. The limits
are (1) that the professions are the three learned
professions of divinity, law, and medicine ; (2) that
the use should be confined to those within the pro-
fession, who speak of others as laymen. In the
case of the clerical profession the use, for a great
length of time, has spread ; but in law and
medicine, as W. 0. B. says, the free use is modern ;
and MR. THOMAS'S, at the reference, is the first
time I ever saw it used of a non-soldier. There is one
more use of a kindred word which is little known.
Unless I am wrong, the masonic name for a non-
mason is " lewis," which is clearly from the same
root. 0. F. S. WARREN, M.A.
Longford, Coventry.
CARVED ADDERS ON PULPITS (8th S. xi. 69). —
The "adders" carved on the pulpits at Clynog
perhaps represent the wonderful creature called
"carog," supposed to have been a reptile now
extinct, and which "somewhat resembled a flying
serpent." According to living folk-lore, St. Beuno
slew this animal. See a detailed account of the
tradition in Bye-gones relating to Wales and the
Border Counties, 24 June, 1896.
JOHN HOBSON MATTHEWS.
Town Hall, Cardiff.
JOHN ANDR£ (8th S. xi. 8, 56).— The lamented
Winthrop Sargent, in his well-known ' Life,' re-
cords that John Andre's father was a London
merchant of good standing, and, if my memory
serves me, gives the nature of his business together
with the street and number of his warehouse
(though not his name), which would seem to convey
the idea that a hunt on the part of MR. WALKER
through old directories and annals of the particular
street might fetch the full paternal name. C.
KECK FAMILY (8th S. xi. 149).— A. T. M. will
find pedigrees and accounts of the Keck family
in Burke's ' Landed Gentry,' 2, 3, 4 ; Harleian
Society, viii. 418 ; Pedigree of Keck of Long
Marston, Gloucestershire, 1857 ; the Genealogist,
iii. 173 ; Pedigree of Keck, of Middleton, Glouces-
tershire, 1857. W. E. LAYTON, F.S.A.
Cuddington Vicarage, Surrey.
Will A. T. M. please to say whether the
Anthony Keck to whom he refers is of the family
of Sir Anthony Keck, Knt., who died in 1697
(Foss, 'Judges,' vi. 365)? I can mention some
particulars of this branch. ED. MARSHALL.
PETWORTH REGISTERS (8th S. xi. 7, 56). — These
are not in any list of published registers that I
have seen ; but very many of the entries of chris-
tenings, marriages, and "buryals" are copied in
the Add. MS. 5699, pp. 189-192 (Burrell Col-
lection, British Museum), together with numerous
inscriptions and coats of arms. Among the names
occurring are Percy, Dawtrey, Burrell, Finch,
Johnson, Westall, Payne, Edmondes, Dodswortb,
Barnard, Napper, Juxe or Jewkes, Mose, Strud-
wicke, Wickens, Payne, Mitford, Armstrong, Carr,
Wyndham, Aylwyn, Monke, Bulleyne, West-
brooke, and Gawen Harris. I do not recollect the
name of Phillips, but it may occur, as the entries
copied are very numerous. E. G. CLAYTON.
Richmond.
THE WILL OF KING HENRY VI. : "CHARE
ROFED" (8tb S. x. 253, 401; xi. 74).— Char is no
doubt a recognized word for a load, or definite
weight, of lead, as MR. WILLSON says. But is
there any evidence that it is used for the metal
itself? Do we read, for instance, of "5 cwt. of
char" or of "a char pipe"? If not, I incline to
Parker's guess. If cfeare = char, and char (as is
certainly the case) = waggon, chare-roofed must
= waggon-roofed, a well-known construction, of
which, amongst many others, there is an example
in the Chapel of the Pyx, in Westminster Abbey.
ALDENHAM.
GEORGE HERBERT (8th S, xi. 147).— I see no
reason to doubt that George Herbert's words are
correctly printed. " Commonwealth " in the six-
teenth century and early part of the seventeenth
means the State, not a republic. " Commonwealth's
men " are men seeking the well-being of the State, in
contradistinction to those who look for Court
favours. SAMUEL R. GARDINER.
May I be allowed to say a few words about my
own query ? I have been reminded that the word
"commonwealth" is used in the 'Priest to the
Temple ' in a general, not a political or technical,
sense. If this is so, there is no reason for thinking
*
8«hS.XI.MAB.6,'97.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
193
uhat another word was used in the first edition.
Herbert uses "commonwealth" in this general
way in his poems. And one who had no cause
afterwards for loving Cromwellian institutions
prayed in 1625 for " the happiness and the bless-
ings of this Commonwealth " (Laud's * Summary
of Devotions '). But the word is remarkable when
after events are considered.
EDWARD H. MARSHALL, M.A.
Hastings.
It would seem from the context, " the one he
owes to his heavenly country, the other to his
earthly, having no title to either, except he do
good to both," that the word " commonwealth " is
used in its full and wide sense, having no reference
to any special form of government. This would
be expected from the date of the writing, 1632.
Barnabas Oley would have no temptation to alter
in 1652, and little, if any, afterwards. He would
credit his readers with an attachment to the com-
mon wealth of the monarchy.
0. F. S. WARREN, M.A.
Longford, Coventry.
;<Commonwealth's-man" was a word in use to
indicate a patriot or a good citizen long before the
days of the English republic. MR. MARSHALL
will find several examples of this use of the word
in the ' N. E. D.' John Vicars, in his * Jehovah-
Jireb,' 1644, p. 21, uses it in this sense.
EDWARD PEACOCK.
JAMES I. AND His " ONE DARLING PLEASURE "
(8th S. xi. 86).— James Caulfield, in his ' History
of the Gun- powder Plot,' p., 93, says : —
' The laws against Seminary priests, towards the end
of James's reign, were in a great measure laid aside, for
which the following anecdote is given as a cause. The
King was extravagantly fond of hunting, in which
exercise he would often outstrip his attendants for
several miles : in consequence of this carelessness of his
person, he was admonished in a letter 'entirely to leave
off the chace of animals, or cease the hunting of Jesuits
and priests.' James adopted the first pursuit, which he
continued to enjoy the remainder of his reign."
JAS. B. MORRIS.
Eastbourne.
ORME'S CUTLERY (8th S. x. 356).— The name
Orme seems familiar to me in connexion with
cutlery I used to see as a boy. There were, I
chink, some old green-handled table-knives in the
kitchen of my grand-aunt in London, together
with two-pronged steel forks to match. This
latter circumstance might afford some clue to their
antiquity. I saw some, not long ago, in good
jondition, in the window of a dealer in antiques
it Brighton. I do not, of course, know if MR.
POOLE is of the same family, but my aunt's sister-
n-law had borne his name before her marriage,
md I think her father was lessee of the Theatre
Royal, Brighton. THOMAS J. JEAKES.
Tower House, New Hampton.
LORD LYTTON'S ' NIGHT AND MORNING ' (8th S.
xi. 105).— 'Captain Wattle and Miss Roe' was
written and the music composed by Charles
Dibdin, and was first sung by him in his enter-
tainment called ' The Sphinx,' produced in 1797
at the Sans Souci Theatre, Leicester Place,
Leicester Square. The song, which was published
" by the author at his music warehouse, Leicester
Place, Leicester Square," opposite the theatre,
price one shilling, and is printed in Dibdin's
' Professional Life,' vol. iv. p. 70, with an illus-
tration by his daughter, is as follows : —
Did you ever hear of Captain Wattle 1
He was all for love and a little for the bottle ;
We know not what pains we have ta'en to enquire
If gunpowder he invented or the Thames set on fire,
If to him was the center of gravity known,
The longitude or the philosophers' stone,
Or whether he studied from Bacon or Boyle,
Copernicus, Locke, Katerfelto or Hoyle ;
But this we have learnt with great labour and pain,
That he loved Miss Roe and she loved him again.
Than sweet Miss Roe none e'er looked fiercer,
She had but one eye, but that was a piercer.
We know not, for certainty, her education,
If she wrote, mended stockings or settled the nation ;
At cards if she liked whist and swabbers or voles,
Or at dinner loved pig or a steak on the coals,
Whether most of the Sappho she was or Thalestris,
Or if dancing was taught her by Hopkins or Vestris ;
But, for your satisfaction, this good news we obtain,
That she loved Captain Wattle and he loved her again.
When wedded, he became lord and master depend on't;
He had but one leg, but he 'd a foot at the end on 't,
Which, of government when, she would fain hold the
bridle,
He took special caution should never lie idle ;
So, like most married folk 'twas " my plague " and " my
chicken,"
And sometimes a-kissing and sometimes a-kicking ;
Then for comfort a cordial she 'd now and then try,
Alternately bunging or piping her eye ;
And these facts of this couple the history contain ;
For when he kicked Miss Roe, she kicked him again.
JOHN HEBB.
Willesden Green.
I can give the reply asked for. The song to
which the author meant to allude was evidently
C. Dibdin's, beginning,
Did you ever hear of Captain Wattle 1
He was all for love, and a little for the bottle,
forming part of his entertainment, ' The Sphinx.'
Lord Lytton seems to have muddled the first line
with another, yet more famous
And did you not hear of a jolly young waterman ?
JULIAN MARSHALL.
WM. BUTLER, SERGEANT- AT- ARMS TO HENRY
VIII. (8th S. xi. 68).— It may assist your corre-
spondent to learn that some of the Butler family
were long connected with Norfolk. I have an
>arly charter by Richard Botler respecting lands
jailed Gatton in Flitcham, dated Thursday before
;he feast of St. Bartholomew, 8 Henry V. (that is
194
NOTES AND QUERIES. [8*s.xi. MAR.
1420) ; another by Richard Botler for same lands,
8 Henry V.; another wherein William Bolter
occurs as purchaser of lands at Flitcham in
5 Henry V. (1417) ; also some gravestone in-
scriptions copied from the church of Aston in
Appletree to the Buttler family, of dates from 1669
to 1712. C. GOLDING.
Colchester.
TIMBRELL FAMILY (8tb S. x. 337, 502).— In the
Topographer for the year 1790, vol. v., a small
volume of sixty pages, there are notices of inscrip-
tions in Kemble Church, Wilts, in memory of
Eobert Timbrell, of Ewen Green, who married
Amy, daughter of Thomas Grayle, rector of Las-
sington, near Gloucester, with a query in note,
" Leckhampton." Query also if this family were
connected with the Timbrells of Sandewell Park,
co. Gloucester. Other Timbrells named, Mary died
1685, Robert, son of Eobert Timbrell, died 1684.
The above first-named Robert and Amy, his wife,
died 1713 and 1738 respectively. VICAR.
"ACELDAMA," ACTS i. 19 (8th S. xi. 48).—
Certainly with the c hard, so far as my recol-
lection goes of my ministry in the Church of
England, 1866-1873. GEORGE ANGUS.
St. Andrews, N.B.
The c is hard ; Greek, a/ccASa/jct ; Hebrew,
" heakel daina," field of blood. The word here put
for field is a near relation of the Latin ager, sub-
stituting I for r. LYSART.
" FORESTER " (8ta S. x. 255, 301, 345 ; xi. 36).
— The following passage is from a ' Sportive Song,'
which appeared in Punch, 16 Jan., No. 2897,
p. 36 :—
Here are you on the castaway peacocky weed
That has little to boast of but rank,
And my sorry old nag is of true Forest breed,
But a bad 'un to beat at a bank.
You may laugh at the Forester coarseheaded brute,
But I swear he shall show you to-day
That o'er heather and bog, and mid tangle and root,
There is none like my ill-favoured grey !
The song is prefaced by " A South-country Fox-
hunter, on a New Forest Pony, celebrates his
triumph over a Midland ' bullfincher.' "
F. C. BIRKBECK TERRY.
CARTWRIGHT'S ' ROYAL SLAVE ' (8th S. xi. 47).
— " The Royal Slave. A tragi-comedy (in five acts
and in verse. By W. Cartwright). W. Turner
for T. Robinson, Oxford, 1639. 4to." (British
Museum, No. 644. d. 39.) A second edition of
the above, 1640 (644. b. 7). JOHN RADCLIPFE.
THE GERMAN DIET (8th S. xi. 28).— The power
of the Emperors of Germany (911-1790) was
limited, and gradually decreased (especially after
the reign of Maximilian I., 1518), they being con-
sidered by the princes (by whom they were elected)
simply the chief officers of the Empire, to put into
execution such decrees or sanctions as were passed
by the Estates. The General Diets could be
summoned by or without the consent of the
emperor, who without the sanction of the Diet
could not make laws that would bind all the
States, levy taxes, raise money for the service of
the Empire in general, declare war, negotiate peace,
complete an alliance with any foreign power, de-
prive any prince or state of its dignity or dominion,
impose religion on any prince or state, or punish
any man on that account. He was accountable to
the States of the Empire for his actions, and if by
his maladministration it was thought he would
destroy the Empire, or would not hearken to good
advice, the Electors had the power to depose him
and elect another. These restrictions do not apply
to the Emperor's own dominions. He could con-
fer honours, create princes, enfranchise cities, and
all princes received investiture from him. He
instituted universities, and he only could give
leave to build cities. His ambassador in foreign
courts had precedence. Carion's * Chronicle,' 1550,
under "Adolf the Emperor," says, "and was de-
posed from the empyre by the Electours : for
hys substaunce was not sufficient to sustayne the
costes of the Emperyall hyghnesse : Besydes that
was he very infortunable in dispatchynge greate
tbynges," JOHN RADCLIFFE.
* BELSHAZZAR'S FEAST ' (8th S. xi. 49). — Some
forty years ago I was in my nonage, but some years
later a novel in picture boards, called, I think,
* The Money Worshippers,' was lent to my father.
I have some idea, probably erroneous, that this
may have been the book. THOMAS J. JEAKES.
Having been abroad for some weeks, I have
only now come across the above query. Possibly
T. S. refers to a three- volume novel, entitled * The
Handwriting on the Wall,' by the late Edwin
Atherstone, published by Bentley in 1858. Mr.
At hers tone — a contemporary of the famous early
writers of this waning century — was the author of
other so-called novels in prose and verse on Biblical
subjects, notably * Israel in Egypt ' and * The Fall
of Nineveh.' CAROLINE STEGGALL.
EAGLES CAPTURED AT WATERLOO (8th S. xi*
27, 89).— The late General Clark Kennedy, the
son of Sir Clark Kennedy, told me that his father
captured an eagle, and, being seriously wounded,
handed it to a sergeant or trooper, who took it to
Wellington, and for some time got credit for the
capture. R. B. S.
Mr. D. H. Parry, the latest writer on the battle
of Waterloo, in his article in ( Battles of the Nine-
teenth Century ' (1896, vol. i. pp. 62, 63), refers
to only two eagles taken at Waterloo : one, the
eagle of the 45th, taken by Sergeant Ewart of the
Greys, the scene of which has been painted by
8th S. XT. MAK. 6, '97.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
195
Ansdell, and another painting of which, by W, B.
Wollen, forms the frontispiece to the volume ; and
the second, the eagle of the 105th, taken by
Capt. Clarke and Corporal Styles of the Royals,
"a glorious, gilded thing, embroidered with the
names of Je"na, Eylau, Eckmiihl, Essling, and
Wagram." He adds : —
" A man of the Inniskillings named Penfold claimed
to have taken that colour [the second one] ; but his story
is vague, and I incline to think that a blue silk camp-
colour of the 105th, now at Abbotsford, was the one that
Penfold seized and afterwards lost in the fray."
Mr. Parry also states that Tathwell of the Blues
" tore off a colour, but his horse was shot and he
lost it." , A. 0. W.
HONEYSUCKLE (8th S. x. 332).— The "practice
of calling clover-blossoms honeysuckles" is not
peculiarly Irish, nor do I think it can properly be
called an error. We always called the common
meadow clover by this name in Nottinghamshire ;
and not only is it so called in many parts of
England, but it has been so called from time
immemorial. Thus, in the 'Alphita Glossary'
(Oxford, 1887) we find, under " Trifolii": " Tertium
habet florem croceum et uocatur dens equinus et
crescit in pratis an. honisoucles "; and in Gerard :
1C Medow Trefoile is called in English, Common
Trefoile, Three leafed grasse : of some Suckles,
Honey-suckles, and Cocks-heads."
Crofton Croker does not seem to have been
aware that, from the fact that the Irish are said to
have eaten the shamrock in olden times, some have
supposed the wood sorrel to have been the plant
so called, as this was formerly a somewhat common
article of food. It is said to be still used in salads
on the Continent.
As regards the name caprifolium, the following
note by Mr. Mowat in 'Alphita,' s.v., will interest
MR. HOOPER: "Whence the Fr. Chevrefeuille :
'. Ger. Geissblatt. I suspect that KaTTTrapts lurks
behind caprifolium : cf. E.P.N. [Earle's 'English
Plant-Names '], p. 10, ' Capparis, \> is Wudubend.'"
According to Folkard the French Chevrefeuille has
become corrupted into cherfeu, dear flame, and the
plant (woodbine) is therefore used as a love token.
C. C. B.
MR. RANBY'S HOUSE AT CHISWICK (8th S. xi.
22). — Two houses were pulled down in Chiswick
Lane last year — the Manor House in April, and a
louse known as Bradmore House, or College, in
September. I did not see the paragraph in the
Ithenceum, but from its publication at the time
-he latter house had just been demolished, I sup-
posed it to refer to that place, hence the opinion
luoted by COL. PBIDEAUX. Now, however, that
have seen the architectural description given, I
iee that the Manor House must be intended ; if
b would be interesting to know the authority
!or its being called Mr. Ranby's. I know that
Hogarth's etching is often supposed to represent
the Manor House, but, as I believe, erroneously,
as I have said elsewhere, for reasons given by
COL. PRIDEAUX. Lysons says that Lady Mary
Coke purchased her house of Mr. Robert Steven-
son, and in an interleaved copy of the 'Environs'
in the Guildhall Library there is a water-colour
drawing of "Mr. Stevenson's, Chiswick," which
certainly does not correspond with the Manor
House, and in my opinion does with the centre
house in Hogarth's print. W. H. WHITEAR.
Chiswick.
STOWE MSS. (8"> S. xi. 109).— The Athenaeum
of 15 Feb., 1851, announced that the unpublished
diaries and correspondence of George Grenville
had been bought by Mr. Murray, of Albemarle
Street, from the trustees of the Duke of Bucking-
ham. The Ashburnham MSS., including the Astle,
Irish, and other collections, passed into the hands
of the Earl of Ashburnham for the sum of 8,OOOZ.
A catalogue of the Stowe Manuscripts sold by
auction is in the Library, Guildhall, E.C.
EVERARD HOME COLEMAN.
71, Brecknock Road.
INTRODUCTORY WORDS IN LEGAL DOCUMENTS
(8ta S. x. 374). — The prospect opened out by
J. J. F. is appalling. Whosoever desires to revel
in the verbose confessions of faith with which old
wills begin, can indulge his hobby to his heart's
content in the volumes of ' Wills and Inventories '
published by the Surtees Society, viz., vols. ii., iv.,
xxvi., xxx., xxxviii., xlv., and liii., especially
vol. ii., without occupying valuable space in
*N. & Q.' Fancy a series of contributions like
the following paragraph, which contains the " intro-
ductory words "to the will of John Franklin, of
Cocken : —
" In the name of the Father and of the Sonne and
of the Holye Goste thre p'sons and one trew and verye
god, so be it, the xix daye of Novembre in the yeare
after Christe incarnac'on one thowsande fyve hundreth
eeventie & two. I John Frankeleyne of Coken within
the Countie of Durham Gentleman beynge at this pre-
sent tyme, praise and thanks be geuen to th'almyghtie
and eu'lastynge God, of good & p'fete remambraunce
altho' somtbynge towched wth dyvers infirmites of the
bodye, p'ceivynge the freill inclynac'on of man, the
vnstabilitie and soden changes of the worlde, the
subtile p'euasions of our cruell and mortall enemye
the Devell and the vncertentye of deathe who most
lyke a theiffe dothe steall upon everye creature before
they can be awaire I myndynge therefore by gods grace
& p'mission not to dye intestate but in all poynts to be
armyd prepared & made redye agaynst that fearce
and cruell battell do make this my laste will and testa-
ment conteynynge therein the verye trewe and effec-
tual 1 confession of my hole mynde & intente in manor
and forme aa herafter most playnelye may apeare.
ffyrst I gyve and bequeath my soule to the holye blessed
and glory ous Treynitie thre p'eons & one trewe & verye
God who through his Almyghtie and godlye powre
did create make and fassion the same to his owne
symilitude and lyknes to y' intente that by and through*
196
NOTES AND QUERIES.
g. xi. MAR, 6, '97.
the merits of Crist his passion and deathe our onlye
Savyor and redemer the eeconde p'son in trenytie it
might be made p'taker wth hyin in the vnspeakeable and
eu'lastynge joyes of Heaven: And my bodye as it most
vyle Dunge slyme and earthe and by god creatid and
made of the same, vnto therthe therfore I will gyve &
bequeath it agayne theire to remayne to the last daye
wherin God by his potencyall power shall reigne in
his glo' as a moste victorious conqueroure and as a
moste righteous juge shall geve sentence upon all
humayne fleahe," &c.
EICHARD WELFORD.
"TALOS" (8th S. x. 397, 461, 518).— Perhaps
the following remarks from Nicolas Udall's trans-
lation of ' The Apophthegmes of Erasmus,' reprint
of 1564 edition, 1877, pp. 185-6, may not inappro-
priately be added. On the words, "the huccle
bones, which is a game for boies and children," there
is this explanation : —
" 'AffrpayaXog is in Latin talus, and it is the little
square huccle bone, in the ancle place of the hinder
legge in all beastee, sailing man, and soche beastes as
haue fingera, as for example, Apes and Mounkeis, except
also beastes that haue the houfe of the fote not clouen,
but whole. With these hucclebones they had a game in
olde time, aa children haue at this daye also, wbiche
game was in this maner. If the caster chaunced to
cast that syde vpwarde whiche is plaine, it was called
Canis or Canicula, and it stoode in etede of blanke or of
an ace, and that was the lest and worste that might be
cast, and the caster should thereby wynne no part of the
stakes, but was of force conetraigned in the waye of
repele to laye downe to the stake one peece of coyne, or
one point, or one counter, or one whatsoeuer thinges
were plaied for, and to take vp none at al. The contrary
to this (whiche was the holowe syde) was called Venus or
Cous, and that was Cocke, the best that might be cast.
For it stoode for a sixe, by which casting the caster
should winne and take vp from the stakes, six pieces of
coyne, or sixe poyntes, or six counters, &c., and besides
that, al the repeleg by reason of Canis found sleping.
The other two sydea of the hucclebone wer called, the
one Chius, by whiche the caster woonne and toke vp
three, and the other Senio, by which the caster got and
toke vp fower. In the hucclebones, there was no dewce,
nor cinque. This was the common game, but there wer
other games, as there ben varietee of games in dice-
plaiyng, whiche dice they called Tesseras, of their square-
nesse. Albeit, Tali are sometimes vsed for Tesserae,
and taken to signifie diceplaiyng as euen here also it may
be taken."
F. C. BIRKBECK TERRY.
SS. CYRIACUS AND JDLTETTA (8th S. xi. 129).
—This dedication is unusual, as S. Julitta is
generally commemorated with her child, whose
name is spelt Quiricus. Their feast occurs in the
Eoman martyrology on 16 June, although most
probably they were martyred on 15 July, on which
day their feast is celebrated by the Greeks and
others. They were of Tarsus, and an account of
their martyrdom your correspondent J. B. H. will
find duly recorded in the * Acta Sanctorum.' There
is a church in Rome dedicated to them near the Tor
de' Conti, and the ancient title of S. Cyriacus "in
thermis Diocletianis " was transferred by Sixtus IV.
in 1475 to this church on the destruction of the
church of S. Cyriacus, the last titular being Cardinal
Pietro Bembo in the pontificate of Paul III. It
would appear from a MS. preserved in the archives
of S. Marco at Rome that the body of this S.
Cyriacus, who was a Roman martyr, was removed
to the church of SS. Quirico and Giulitta by Sixtus
IV. in 1475 from the church of S. Cyriacus, and
that the " station," which till then was annually
held there on the Tuesday after Passion Sunday,
was transferred to the church of SS. Quirico and
Giulitta. The body of S. Cyriacus was afterwards,
owing to the damp condition of the church,
removed to that of Santa Maria in Via Lata in
the Corso, and it is interesting to know that the
"station" is still held in both these churches
on the same day, the Tuesday after Passion
Sunday, and in the case of Santa Maria in Via
Lata in the chapel of S. Cyriacus. The Cathedral
at Nevers and the church of Newton St. Gres,
Devon, are dedicated to the martyrs SS. Cyriacus
and Julitta, and my opinion is that Quiricus or
Quiriacus, as in a codex at Urbino, N. 410, f. 221,
it is spelt in both ways, is the same as Cyriacus or
S. Cyr. HARTWELL D, GRISSELL, F.S.A.
In the ' Dictionary of Ecclesiastical Biography'
of Dr. Smith and Dr. Wace will be found notices
of these two saints, from which the following brief
account is compiled.
The parish of Luxulyan, in Cornwall, is dedi-
cated to SS. Cyric and Julitta. S. Julitta has
also the parish of S. Juliot, in Cornwall. Her day
in the Roman Calendar is 30 July, in others 14 or
16 June. The story of Julitta and her child Cyric
was popular, and S. Basil wrote in praise of her.
There was a cell of S. Cyric in the Cornish parish
oir S. Veep. For a full account see Oliver's ' Mon-
asticon,' p. 69, where other dedications to these
favourite saints are mentioned. A list of other
authorities is given, and it is added that in the
'Lives of Cambro-British Saints,' 276, 277, are
printed six Welsh hymns invoking the intercession
of these saints. (All this from the article on
"Julianus," 115.)
With regard to the dedication of Luxulyan it is
said that "the better-known name Julitta" has
" assimilated Julian to itself."
For S. Cyriacus we turn to the article on
"Cyricus." Here it is said that
"at Ecclesgreig, in the parish of S. Cyrus, Kincardine-
shire, and at S. Ceres, Fifeshire, we find traces of S.
Cyricus, whose veneration appears to have been intro-
duced into Scotland at an early period. There seems to
be little reason for doubt that this is the martyr Cyriacua
who, with hia mother Julitta, suffered in the Diocletian
persecution."
" Other spellings of this infant martyr are Cyr, Quiri-
cus, Cericus, Curig. The place of martyrdom was Tarsus
in Cilicia, and further accounts may be seen in ' Acta
Sanctorum,' June, iii. 17; Butler, 'Lives of the Saints,'
16 June; Rees, ' Welsh Saints,' 307."
Butler's date is 304 A.D.
8«" S. XI. MAR. 6, '87.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
197
A brief account of S. Julitta will be found in
Baring-Gould's 'Lives of the Saints,' 30 July.
Here Julitta is stated to have been "a wealthy
lady of Csesarea in Cappadocia." Refusing to
offer incense, she was condemned to death : —
" A great fire was heaped up and kindled, and Julitta
was led to it. She leaped into the flames or smoke, and
sank down suffocated. Her body was drawn out before
the flames reached and consumed it, and was buried. A
spring of sweet water bubbled up from her grave, and
was thought to possess healing properties."
A similar account is given in ' Les Petits Bollan-
distes' and in Butler's 'Lives of the Saints.' In
Husenbeth and Jessopp's * Emblems of Saints ' it
is stated that she is depicted with oxen near her —
probably because she was rich in fields and cattle —
with a fountain springing up from her blood ; or
standing with her son Quiricus, each bearing a
palm branch.
It is not necessary to allude to the variants of
the story, as the references already given will
suffice to direct the inquirer to full sources of in-
formation. W. SPARROW SIMPSON.
In the case of either of these names there are
more saints than one who bear it. Some leading
point might help to distinguish which is meant.
One of either name suffered in the reign of Domitian,
and St. Basil has a homily "In Martyrem Julittam,"
' Opp.,' t. ii. p. 35, Ben. ED. MARSHALL.
GEORGE MORLAND, SENIOR (8th S, xi. 8, 74).—
"Lord Mansfield has a fancy portrait of two young
ladies as laundry maids, by him."— Bryan.
At Lord Mansfield's, at Caen Wood, are portraits
in oil by him called 'The Two Beautiful Miss Gun-
nings,' but more probably from his own daughters.
They are both, as was his manner, employed, the
one washing, the other ironing ; carefully drawn
and laboriously finished, expressive, but cold, thin,
and starved in colour. They are published among
Carrington Bowles's by no means select series of
prints as ' Lady's- Maid Ironing ' and « Lady's-Maid
soaping Linen ' (Redgrave).
The pictures were exhibited in 1867 as the Gunnings,
5 whom, even putting anachronism out of the question,
they do not bear the slightest resemblance."— Chaloner
Smith.
" Miss Dawe, sister of the Painter— soaping linen— ad
nvum.— P. Dawe."— Bromley.
While the above pictures were exhibiting in 1867
was with Mr. Harvey, of St. James's Street, and
member a gentleman saying there at the time
hat he was at Lord Mansfield's when they were
elected, and there being some hesitation as to
scribing them, he suggested the name of Miss
runnings, which was adopted. H. YOUNG.
HONGATE I HrjNSTANTON (8th S. X. 171 241
10, 418, 459 ; xi. 134).-! do not know that I
3 much more to say. But it is worth while to
oint out the fallacy at the last reference. We
there read : " Just as the sign of the genitive has
fallen out of the second part of Hunstanton, which
was once Hunstanes-ton, so may the same process
have taken place with the first part of the word."
Not so ; the cases are dissimilar ; the es or s in
Hunstanes-ton follows an unaccented syllable, and
easily disappears with it. But the es in Hunes-stan,
following an accented syllable, would not have
disappeared so easily, at any rate not in the A.-S.
period, when the spelling Hunstan (and no other)
already appears.
The e in the Domesday form Hunestan is most
interesting, but arises from another source. It
simply represents the inability of the Norman to
pronounce nst without a break. The fact that the
Romance nations prefix a vowel before the com-
bination st, just in order to enable them to produce
the sound, has been explained over and over again.
I give examples in my 'Principles of English
Etymology,' second series, p. 234, where I adduce
0. F. estable from Lat. stabulum, and E. estate,
0. F. estat, from Lat. status. Ask a Frenchman
or Italian to pronounce Hunstan, and watch the
effect.
This French e is a mere intrusion, and represents
no letter in Anglo-Saxon ; it has no connexion
whatever with ^Estan- broke, in which the M was
heavily accented.
I just note that the number of A.-S. names
which contain Hun- or -hun is considerable ;
whilst the prefix Hund- is rarely found, and the
suffix -hund does not (so far as I know) appear at
all. WALTER W. SKEAT.
Another possible etymology is suggested by
Grimm's opinion (' D. Gr.,' ii. 462) that Hun may
have meant "a giant," Hunstanes-tun might thus
be the " tun by the big stone." We may compare
the name of Grimston, of which one called
N. Grimston lies at the foot of an abrupt escarp-
ment caused by a fault having a lift of three
hundred feet ; while another called Hanging
Grimston lies on the steepest escarpment of the
Yorkshire wolds. Hun is a common prefix in
0. H. G. personal names, as well as in O. E. names
such as Humberht, an A.-S. Bishop of Lichfield.
ISAAC TAYLOR.
ANTIQUITY OP A SLANG PHRASE, "GETTING
UP EARLY" (8tb S, xi. 86, 131).— Your correspond-
ent may perhaps be interested to know that a
vulgar song, entitled 'The Chickaleary Bloke,1
which was the " rage " with music-hall habituts
about thirty years ago, began as follows : —
I 'm a chickaleary bloke, with my one, two, three,
Whitechapel is the village I was born in ;
To catch me on the hop or on my tibby drop
You must wake up very early in the morning.
My recollection of so much of the vile trash is
due to the persistency with which it was bawled
in the streets. The song was published, however,
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with the music, and the words appeared in the
usual song-books. Your correspondent will observe
from this that the phrase is not of yesterday's
birth. It hardly deserves the epithet of " slang,"
and I shall be much surprised if earlier printed
examples, in better environment, be not found.
Since the above was written one reply to LORD
ALDENHAM'S query has appeared. The sentence
which MR. APPERSON quotes from Swift is pro-
bably imitated from a proverb included in George
Herbert's *Jacula Prudentum': "He that will
deceive the fox must rise betimes." Eay also has
it, and in Bohn's collection the original Spanish is
appended : " Quien el diablo ha de enganar, de
manana se ha de levantar"; for, as an old French
proverb says, " le diable ne dort jamais." The fox,
too, is said to sleep with one eye open ; but our
exchange of the devil for Reynard was probably
due to our love of sport and our unrivalled
experience of his cunning in the field.
F. ADAMS.
Its origin may have been Biblical, when we
remember how familiar to every one the English
Authorized Version has always been, and how often
the phrase occurs there. See Jer. vii. 14, xi. 7,
xxv. 3, 4, &c. ; Prov. xxvii. 14. It seems to have
been an old Jewish idiom, and is rightly regarded
as being expressive. WALTER W. SKEAT.
THE GROSVENOR, EAST INDIAMAN (8th S. x.
515 ; XL 73, 132, 156).— The following books deal
with this event : —
A narrative of two sailors who were wrecked in the
Grosvenor. 8vo., 1783.
An account of the logs of the Grosvenor. Being the
Report given in to the East India Co. New Edition. 8vo.,
1786.
Narrative of the loss of the Grosvenor. By Geo.
Carter. 8vo., 1791.
Journal of a journey from the Cape of Good Hope in
search of the wreck of the Grosvenor, to discover if
there remained alive any of the unfortunate sufferers.
4to., 1792.
E. P. KlTCH.
Bulawayo.
THE WORD "GNOFFE" IN CHAUCER (4th S
Hi. 89, 180, 291 ; 8* S. vi. 143 ; vii. 226, 256,
357, 437 ; x. 439 ; xi. 56, 152).— Many attempts
have been made to give an etymology of the word
" gnoffe " or " gnof," a term applied to the Oxford
carpenter in the ' Miller's Tale ' (Chaucer, A. 3188).
The guess that " gnof " is the same word as the
Heb. gannabhj a thief, cannot be accepted, as the
two words correspond neither in form nor meaning.
The Oxford carpenter was not a thief. Chaucer in
speaking of him as a "gnof" merely implies that
he was a coarse fellow, a regular bumpkin. This
word 'gnof" is a near relation of the Swabian
knopf, (1) a stout, short, thickset man ; (2) a rude,
coarse boor (see Schmid's ' Diet./ Stuttgart, 1844).
Schmid gives also derivatives of this knopf—
namely knoppel, knuppel, knupfel — as used in the
same two senses. The further history of Ger.
knopf and an account of its cognates may be seen
in Kluge's ' Etym. Diet.' (1894). For the gn- in
"gnof," in the place of older kn-, compare
" gnarled " in Skeat's ' Etym. Diet.' (1882).
A. L. MATHEW.
Oxford.
JOHN, SECOND BARON ROBARTES AND FIRST
EARL OF RADNOR (8th S. xi. 168). — John, second
Baron Robartes and first Earl of Radnor (Lord
Lieutenant of Ireland, May, 1669, to May,
1670), was succeeded on his death in 1685 by his
grandson Charles Bodvile Robartes. The title
became extinct in that line on the death of the
fourth earl in 1757. In 1765 William Bouverie,
first Viscount Folkestone, was created Earl of
Radnor, and the title remains with the Bouverie
family at the present day. See Doyle's ' Official
Baronage.' HELEN TOTNBEE.
Dorney Wood, Burnham, Bucks.
' THE VICAR OF WAKEFIELD ' (8th S. xi. 88).— I
cannot give any reference, but the story is familiar
to me of a party of German enthusiasts, sharers in
Goethe's admiration for the book, who called upon
the Vicar of Wakefield (perhaps some fifty years
ago), fully under the impression that he was Dr.
Charles Primrose's successor in the benefice.
EDWARD H, MARSHALL, M.A.
Hastings.
NOTES ON BOOKS, &c.
Encyloposdia of the Laws of England. Edited by A.
Wood Renton, M.A. Vol. I. (Swift & Maxwell.)
IT was during many years a rebuke to English scholar-
ship that it gave to the world few products of intel-
lectual co-operation such as are common in France and
abundant in Germany. That we are gradually wiping
off the reproach is testified by the appearance of the
' Dictionary of National Biography,' now rapidly ap-
proaching completion ; the ' Oxford English Dictionary,'
with which encouraging progress is being made ; and
the ' Encyclopaedia of the Laws of England,' the first
volume of which is before us. Now, even, our effort is
in some respects limited in scope, seeing that in none of
these works do we go outside our own country, and it is
with Britons, or with things English, we are wholly
concerned. Scarcely less ambitious than the noble
works with which we have associated it is this first
attempt to supply an encyclopaedia of English law, com-
prising an abridged statement of the law on every sub-
ject, full definitions of legal terms and phrases, and
concise outlines of procedure in the various courts of the
land. The work is to be completed in twelve volumes,
which, if of the same size as the first, will be of some
five to six hundred pages each, and it is pleasant to
hear is already an assured commercial success, the
promises of professional support in Great Britain, the
Colonies, and India furnishing an adequate guarantee.
It is hoped, and not without reason, that when the
merits of the scheme are made patent to the general
public the importance of the work for reference and
g. XI. MAB. 6, '97.]
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instruction will commend it to statesmen, magistrates,
councillors, journalists, inventors — all, indeed, by whom
the busy, practical life of the educated classes is con-
ducted. Nothing approximately so ambitious and useful
as this has previously been attempted. As is pointed
out by Sir Frederick Pollock, in the characteristically
erudite and philosophical general introduction which he
supplies, the only two works purporting to give a
general insight into English law which have won an
established reputation are the ' Commentaries ' of Black-
stone and Kent, neither of which covers the whole field.
It is impossible in a periodical not intended for purely
professional readers to render intelligible the system of
arrangement Sir Frederick lays down, or the divisions
which he makes. Without his accompanying comments
such broad divisions, even, in regard to procedure
as public law, private law, and conflict of laws, are likely
to be misleading. Quite impossible is it to arrange a
course of law studies in linear progression. " Gradual
acquaintance must be made," Sir Frederick holds, " with
two or three aspects of the law simultaneously. Prin-
ciples, cannot be learnt to much good purpose without
an eye on procedure, and the different branches of juris-
prudence so constantly illustrate one another that it is
a positive advantage to the student to have more than
one constantly before him." One final conclusion stated
in the introduction seems worthy of repetition. It is to
the effect that " It may be wise now and again to declare,
with the deliberate authority of the State, things which
are superfluous for the lawyer but profitable to the
citizen." To both citizen and lawyer the work, then,
appeals, to the latter directly and perforce, seeing that
there can be no legal library worthy of consideration of
which it does not form a part, to the former, so far that
it is indispensable to great institutions, clubs, and the
like, and is a desirable addition to every considerable
collection of books.
In arrangement the book, like all encyclopaedias, is
alphabetical, constituting thus to some extent a dictionary.
The part of the alphabet covered by the opening volume is
"Abandonment "to "Bankruptcy." The separate articles
are contributed by working barristers, many of them
already of eminence in their profession. All matters
concerning maritime law, "Anchor," "Appraise" (of
ships), "Affreightment," are in the hands of Sir Walter
G. F. Phillimore and Mr. G. G. Phillimore ; Mr. Blake
Odgers, Q.C., deals with "Absolute Privilege," "Acci-
ient Assurance," and "Appropriation of Payments";
Mr. Crump, Q.C , is responsible for "Advocate," an im-
oortant subject, the law of which is adequately explained,
:hough its ethics are left untouched. Sir W. R. Anson
writes on ' The Law of Settlement,' Mr. J. Arthur Price
>n " Advowson" and " Assets," Mr. Grazebrook on " AH-
aony," Mr. H. W. Challin on "Ancestor" and "Assur-
mce," the editor on "Arbitration" and "Asylums."
'American Law " is dealt with by Mr. C. F. Beach, Jun.,
>f the New York Bar. A paper of much interest to
nany of our readers is that of Mr. G. H. Knott on
' Armorial Bearings." No fewer than four authorities
sontribute to the important article on "Appeal." One
>ven more important, on " Average," is by the Philli-
nores. From these particulars, which might be inde-
initely extended, the nature of the task and the character
the team which Mr. llenton has assembled may be
inderatood. The undertaking is of national importance,
nd deserves general support. We shall watch its pro-
ress with unfailing interest.
'he Thackerays in India, and some Calcutta Graves. By
Sir William Wilson Hunter, K. C.S.I., &c. (Frowde.)
'HE picturesque and entertaining book written by Sir
illiam Wilson Hunter has an interest extending far
beyond the promise of its title, and constitutes, indeed
a sustained eulogy of that Bengal Civil Service of which
the author is a distinguished member. Further still
does it go. It shows us of what heroic mould were the
founders of our Indian empire — not only the great
warriors, whose names are already immortal, but the
more obscure workers — and at the cost of what constant
toll of blood and death that brilliant empire has been
consolidated. The Thackerays were themselves typical
civil servants, and one and all of those of whom the
author of ' Annals of Rural Bengal ' writes died pre-
maturely in the discharge of their duty. William Make-
peace Thackeray, the grandfather of the novelist and
the founder of the fortunes of the family, retired after
a few years' service, and lived to the respectable age of
sixty-four. Of the eleven children born to him who sur-
vived childhood, nine found their way to the East. Rich-
mond Thackeray, the novelist's father, died 13 Sept.,
1815, aged thirty-two years. Of five other sons who
went to India, four died there, and another, making six
in all, expired on a voyage to the Cape for the recovery
of his health. Those interested in the lineage of
Thackeray will turn to the book to read concerning
it. To ourselves the opening chapter is the most
absorbing part of the book. Written in a vein of
strong partisanship, it uses the cudgels brilliantly in
behalf of Warren Hastings, it brushes on one side the
prejudiced verdict of Macaulay, and it depicts Philip
Francis as the most malignant Englishman of his age.
" If any doubt still exists as to the identity of Francis
with Junius in England, he stands to us revealed as an
unabashed Junius in Bengal — a Junius set free from the
fear of the pillory, and with his ears safe from the hang-
man's knife." We like Sir William's passionate invective,
and we have shed tears over the records he supplies
concerning those who, after an experience of that waste
of spirits in India which Sir Philip Francis calls a
disease unconquerable, a misery unutterable, occupy
obscure graves in the South Park Street Cemetery. If
there is one who can read unmoved the story of young
Speke, told in the opening chapter, we should, with
Cowper, not care to " enter " him on our " list of friends."
It is good for us to read a book such as this, and the
task of so doing is as pleasant as remunerative. One
mistake we find. The name Brunei is substituted for
Brunet as the compiler of ' Manuel du Libraire.'
Legal Lore : Curiosities of Law and Lawyers. Edited
by William Andrews. (Andrews.)
THIS is a more serious and important work than the
title-page suggests. It is popularly written, is intended
as a companion to Mr. Andrews's previous volume, * The
Lawyer in History, Literature, and Fiction, 'and has as
frontispiece a reproduction of a comic design, showing
the trial before a legal court of the fourteenth century
at Lausanne of a pig. The authors of the separate
treatises are, however, scholars of repute, the names
including many familiar to readers of ' N. & Q.,' as Mr.
W. E. A. Axon, Mr. Edward Peacock, and Mr. George
Neilson. The first-named gentleman writes on " Sanc-
tuaries "; Mr. Peacock on " Commonwealth Laws and
Lawyers " and " Laws of the Forest." Mr. Neilson,
mean time, contributes three important papers, two of
which are respectively on "Symbols" and on "Post
Mortem Trials." " Trials of Animals "—such were not
uncommon in mediaeval times— are dealt with by Mr.
Thomas Frost. The victims of these were generally
either bulls or pigs, who were tried for taking human
life. This seems to indicate that it was only domesticated
animals that were supposed to be subject to trial. A
wild beast who took human life was acting after its kind.
For a, pig to eat a child or a bull to gore his keeper was
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an act of domestic treachery. In France a grotesque
trial of this kind took place so late as 1741 in Poitou.
This scarcely seems credible; but it is so stated by Mr.
Frost, who thinks the trials were based on the law given
Exodus xxi. 28. The volume, naturally, constitutes
most diverting reading, and it has also serious archaeo-
logical value. It does not exhaust the subject, however,
and there is full room for a second volume no less inter-
esting than the first. We cannot say that inanimate
things were tried ; but such were certainly condemned.
Witness the graphic account in Motley, if we remember
rightly, of the destruction of the pistol with which
William of Orange was shot.
The Dickens Dictionary. By Gilbert A. Pierce. With
Additions by Wm. A. Wheeler. (Chapman & Hall.)
WE accord a hearty welcome to a new edition of this use-
ful, important, and interesting work. So far as we know,
nothing like it has been accomplished in the case of any
other writer, nor is Shakspeare himself the recipient of
honours such as are here awarded Dickens. To many of
our readers the 'Dickens Dictionary '.is doubtless well
known, and with those to whom it is known it is cer-
tainly a favourite. We have ourselves formed a recent
acquaintance with it, and own to having lingered over it
for more hours than we can conveniently spare. It is
in some senses an epitome of Dickens, presenting you
all his characters in one work. You may, accordingly,
dip into the volume with the certainty of delight and
amusement— reading now the brisk impertinences of
Sam Weller or the airy mendacities of Jingle, now the
cheerful optimism of Horace Skimpole, now the sturdy
advances of Barkis, and now the sage counsel of Captain
Cuttle. In a different mood you can melt over the
sorrows of little Em'ly or the cruel fate of Nancy, become
interested afresh in the murder of Mr. Tulkinghorn,
or watch the gradual depravation of Eichard Carston.
All these things and innumerable others are accessible
in the six hundred pages of this most companionable
volume. All about every character, plot, and situation in
Dickens can, of course, be ascertained in a moment. The
system is admirably convenient, and nothing can be
simpler than the mode of reference. Separate works are
dealt with in the order of their appearance, and every
character in them is named and, when possible, described
in the very words of the novelist. A general index
enables you at once to turn to any character whose name
ia in the memory. If one forgets in what novel Betsy
Trotwood wages her unceasing war against the donkey
boys, a reference to Trotwood points to p. 347, where a
full 'recital of her eccentricities and benevolences is
to be found. A special classified list is also a feature,
and gives, under heads such as " Actors," " Lawyers,"
"Magistrates," "Noblemen," "Public-houses," &c., all
such characters and scenes as are capable of classifica-
tion. This book, which has been fabricated in America,
has 'only to be generally known to enjoy a popularity
equal to that of any of the novels.
THE November and December issue of Melusine con-
tains yet another part of M. Tuchmann's collection
of notes on ' Fascination.' This instalment deals with
the widespread custom of spitting to ensure good fortune
and to avert the effects of the evil eye. The editor's own
article, which relates to the popular legends connected
with St. Eloi, is of great interest to students of mytho-
logical development and transformation. M. Gaidoz has
undertaken the task of showing that Eloi became so
fashionable a saint because he had inherited attributes
from a deity honoured in the seventh century in the
then Prankish region of ancient Belgium, and that he
was the "hypostase," or the transformation, of a black-
smith and farrier god. Otherwise the Bishop of Noyon
would not have survived in the cult of the people more
than any other bishop of his time.
THE Intermediaire for 20 December prints a ques-
tion relative to the position of graves in old Prankish or
Merovingian cemeteries. In most instances, it would
seem, the bodies are found lying west and east ; but in
exceptional cases they are placed south and north. The
same number also contains several communications on
the custom of ringing bells during storms, and more
recent issues of the paper give further notes on the
subject. Under 30 December we find an account of the
picturesque scene which takes place at Aix-la-Chapelle
when, according to time-honoured custom, the relic
venerated as the Virgin's chemise is exhibited to the
people : " C'est une scene du moyen-age a laquelle nous
assistons. Rien n'y manque, ni la fanfare archa'ique, ni
les lepreux que Ton traine, ni les ulceres que Ton montre.
J'ai vu emporter des femmes prises d'attaques de nerfs."
In the number for 10 January it is asked when churches
and schools were first paved; and the question is fol-
lowed by the statement that the introduction of paving
did away with the practice of strewing floors with
flowers, herbs of different kinds, rushes, or straw. In a
later number is a note on the nouns and adjectives
which have become saints in the popular imagination,
and further examples of sacred wells and " black virgins"
are recorded. These " black virgins " all appear to be
very ancient, and it is likely that they owe their colour
to the effect the atmosphere has had on the wood out of
which they are sculptured. There is no reason to sup-
pose that they were originally intended to be of a par-
ticularly dark hue. Now, on account of their antiquity
and their strange appearance, they are frequently con-
sidered of special sanctity ; but when they were carved
they probably only received the veneration due to any
image representing the Blessed Virgin.
THE Giornale di Erudizione for January contains
amongst its questions three relating to southern Europe
which originally appeared in ' N. & Q.' Among its book
notices is a review of Signer Cagni's work on Egypt,
another of Stern's ' Vie de Mirabeau,' and a third dis-
cussing a 'brochure entitled ' On the Interpretation of
Music,' by Cecil Torr.
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LONDON, SATURDAY, MARCH 13, 189T.
CONTENTS.— N° 272.
NOTES :— Unpublished Letter of Nelson— Parish Council of
1608, 201— Houndsditch— Matthew Arnold and Thomson,
203— New Zealand Names — A London Tavern— Funeral
Customs— Longest English Words — Sir A. Sherley the
Author of Shakspeare, 204—' Dictionary of National Bio-
graphy '—Fasting and Abstinence— Chaucer and Villani,
205— Street Inscription— ' Oxford English Dictionary'—
" I remember, I remember"— Whooping-cough Folk-lore—
' Sereu Gomer,' 206.
QUERIES:— "Hamel-tree"— "Broyant"— "La Socigte des
Amis des Arts" — 'The Deccanite '— " Hand-flowerer "—
" Alphabet-man " — Lloyd - Lumley Marriage — Bevis de
Hampton— Sterland— Kernel or Crenelle— Heraldic— Lieut.
W. Cupples, K.M., 207— Grote MSS.— Earls of Derwent-
water— Oldys— Chaunting Ben and Sally— Pasco : Pascoe—
Dialect— Johnson's Teapot— Supervisorships— Gascoigne —
Josiah Wedgwood— Rev. A. Symmer— S. C. Harvey, 208—
Birds' Bills— How to Preserve Letters— Bull Dogs, 209.
REPLIES .—"Let sleeping dogs lie," 209— Cornish Hurling,
210— Sir M. Costa — Peter Fin— "Parliament"— Jerrold's
Dramatic Works— Sir J. Jervis, 211— Bishop E. Hopkins-
Lancashire Hornpipe — Littlecot Tragedy — Old Pewter
Ware — Shakespearian Interrogative, 212— 'The Fortune
Teller'— Evening Services— Jessamy—J. G. Whittier, 213
—Chinese Playing-cards— E. Burke— Passage in ' Middle-
march'— Hole House— " Abraham's Bosom," 214— Oldest
Parish Register— Pope's Epitaph on Mrs. Corbet, 215—
" Harpie "— ' Ship of Fools ' — Rachel de la Pole, 216—
Lanthorn— Jessica— Olney— England, the Virgin's Dower
—Suffix " well," 217— " Sones Carnall "—Scottish Clerical
Dress— Statistics of Imposture — Modern Jacobite Move-
ment — Competitor for Longest Reign, 218.
NOTES ON BOOKS:— ' Bibliographica,' Part XII.— Leigh-
ton's ' Book-Plate Annual ' — ' Clergy Directory ' — ' Direc-
tory of Titled Persons '—Reviews and Magazines.
UNPUBLISHED LETTER OP NELSON.
The following characteristic letter of Nelson,
believed to be unpublished, is in my possession : —
Albemarle, New York,
Nov. 14th, 1782.
DEAR PILFORD,— Since I eaw you yesterday, I have
changed my mind about appointing Edwards as boat-
swain, but will ask Lord Hood to give him the rating in
some other ship, this I hope will do as well, I am to dine
with the Admiral to-day and very likely shall not be on
board till nine. Will you sup with me at ten? I will speak
with you about Rosa and what can be done, my interest
at home you know is next to nothing, the name of Nelson
being little known; it maybe different one of these days,
a good chance only is wanting to make it so.
Yours sincerely,
HORATIO NELSON.
JOCBLYN OTWAY.
A PARISH COUNCIL IN 1608.
I have copied the following " verdict :> of the
Sembly Quest of Ecclesfield from the original in
the possession of the Duke of Norfolk. In these
days of Parish Councils it may be useful to com-
pare the old practice with the new : —
Sembley queste of the Sooke of Ecclesfeilde 18th Apr.
1608.
Paines laid at the great courte at Sheffelde the
18th of Aprill 1608 by the twelue men of the eooke of
Eccleafelde. Richarde Sheirclyffe, forman, &c.
In primis. A paine that euery man make his ringe
hedge about the come field at the accustomed times,
the harde come fielde to be made before the feast of
St. Mathewe, and the ware come fielde before the feast
of St. Matthias and so to kepe the same upon paine
of euery defalte, iijs. iiijrf.
Item. A paine laid that euery man yoke and ringe
his swine at the old accustomed times in paine of
euerie defalte to forfeit xijd.
Item. That noe manor of person nor persons doe put
any loose cattell into the corne fielde before the corne
be ledd fortbe in paine of euerie defalte, xijd.
Item. A paine layd that noe maner of person or
persons within the sooke of Ecclesfielde do harbour
anie woman knowne to be with childe unlawfully
begotten twoe daies after she be knowne, nor receiue
anie stranger or strangers to dwell in anie of their
houses, in paine to forfeit xxs.
Item. A paine laid that no maner of person nor
persons breake anie hedgep, nor sell anie grene wood of
my Lords, nor of anie other mans, within the parishe of
Ecclesfielde uppon paine of iijs. iiijd.
Item. A paine laide that noe eaaner of person nor
persons that dwelleth in Chappell doe put anie cattell
whatsoeuer to the more, or common of Ecclesfielde in
paine of euery defalte, iijs. iiijd.
Item. A paine laid that no maner of person nor
persons doe put anie scabbed horses to the more or
towne fielde in paine to forfett xs.
Item. A paine laid that all the inhabitants of the
sooke of Ecclesfielde doe kepe their mastiuea at all times
musseled upon paine of iijs. iiijd.
Item. A paine laid that noe maner of person nor
persons within the sooke of Ecclesfield put anie maner
of cattell into the Cbappell towne fielde. excepte they
haue corne or some grounde in the same fielde, uppon
paine of euery defalte, iijs. iiij^.
Item. A paine laid that noe maner of person nor
persons beinge of the jurie or sembly quest of the sooke
of Ecclesfielde doe at anie time or times hearafter dis-
close or bewraie the verdite of the same jurie or anie
parte therof to anie person or persons whatsoeuer,
uppon paine of euerie offender to forfett xs.
In primis a fraie made by Hugh Carre of George Wil-
kinsons man and bloud drawne on Wilkinson, iijs. iiijrf.*
Item. A fraie made by Hughe Alene of Margerie
Hadfield and John Hadfelde, iijs. iiijeZ.
Item. A fraie made of Richard Jepson by Wm,
Hinchliffe and bloud drawne upon the said Jepson,
vjs. viijc?.*
Item. A fraie made of Gilberte Dickenson by
Gerarde Freeman and bloud drawen upon the said
Gilbert, vjs. viijd*
Item. A fraie made by Roberte Carr of John Boy and
Raiphe Hotkhinson and bloud drawne upon the said
Boy by Carr, vjs. viijd.*
Item. A fraie made betwixte Roberte Boye and
Thomas Flinte, iijs. iiijd.
A fraie made by Nicholas Marshall upon Edwarde
Yates and bloud drawne upon Yatea, vjs. viijc?.*
Item. A fraie made by Anthonie Lawe uppon Wm.
Mathiman's wife, iij.?. \\ijd.
In primia. We amercie Thomas Walker for puttinge
twoe scabbed horses to the more of Ecclesfield.
Item. We amercie Christopher Crofts for brekinge
of hedges and carryinge awaie stakes, xijrf.
Item. We amercie for sufferinge his servants to breake
hedges Thomas Walker, xijd.
Item. We amercie widowe Fernely for sufferinge her
swine to goe into the corne townefield unyoked and
unringed, v\\jd.
* These sums are crossed out, perhaps to indicate
payment.
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Item. We amercie Alexander Hill for kepingo twoe
gwine unringed, ii\jd.
Item. V?Q amercie George Byrkea for kepinge twoe
swine unringed, iiijc?.
Item. We amercie widowe Twigge for breakinge the
pinfoulde, iijs. iiije£.
Item. Roger Smilter for kepinge a key to take his
cattell out of the pinfoulde without leaue, iijs. iiijt/.
Item. We amercie Richard French for kepinge his
swine unyoked, iiijrf.
Item. We amercy Robert Sheircliff the yonger for
being absent at the muster, vjd.
Item. Peter Fernely for the like, vjd.
Item. A paine laid that noe manor of person nor
persons do watter anie cattell or horses at St. Marie's
well in paine of euerie defalte to forfeit xs.
Item. A paine laid that Roger Smilter shall not at
anie time or times hearafter laie or bedd anie strawe in
the upper end of St. Marie lane, and also that he doth
from henceforth kepe his diche scoured in the netherend
of Bromilie Croft upon paine of botbe defaltes, xs.
Item. A paine laid that none of the inhabitants of
Creswick doe driue anie cattell to Creswick more uppon
paine to forfeit xxs.
Item. A paiue laid that none of the inhabitants of
Whitley doe washe anie clothes or walk at the well in
Whitleie aforesaid, in paine to forfett iijs. u\jd.
Item. A paine laid that at St. Mary well, pinfoulde
well, and all the wells in Ecclesfeild, noe maner of
person nor persons doe washe or wringe anie clothes,
or watter anie horses, in paine to forfett vjs. viijrf.
Ouersears that are chosen for bread and ale Edwarde
Smith and Nicholas Dison -j- jur[ati].
Richarde Jepson the piuder + jurfatus].
I have found no other " verdict " of the Sembly
Quest of Ecclesfield amongst the Duke of Norfolk's
documents, but it is known that the Sembly
Quest of Sheffield met, dined together, and drew
up a "verdict" every year, so that the same
practice was probably followed at Ecclesfield and
elsewhere. These "verdicts" were, in effect, a
code of by-laws, revised, as it seems, every year.
Upon the revision old customs were redeclared or
modified, and new rules made now and then. The
twelve men who formed the jury dealt, as we have
seen, with breaches of the peace as well as with
questions of agriculture and local government, and
their by-laws exhibit a curious picture of old
village life.
The fencing of the campi, or open fields, of a
village from seed- time to harvest is too well known
to need more than a passing mention here. There
were three campi at Ecclesfield, viz., St. Michael
Field, Tunwell (otherwise Town well) Field, and
Loke Field, otherwise Looke Field. One of these
lay fallow every year, whilst the other two were
sown with " hard corn " and " ware corn "
respectively. The " hard corn," sometimes called
" winter corn," consisted of wheat and rye, and
this was sown, as we have seen, about 21 Sep-
tember. The "ware* corn," or "spring corn,"
* O.N. iiar, Lat. ver, spring. The ' Inventories, &c.,
of Jarrow and Monk-Wearmouth ' (Surtees Soc.), p. 196,
have in 1426 : " In frumento et ware corn emptis." The
editor wrongly explains the word as " worse corn."
consisting chiefly of oats and barley, was sown
about 24 February. Everybody who had a strip
or strips of sown land in the campi under crop
assisted in setting up the temporary hedge which
surrounded each campus and kept the cattle out.
At " the old accustomed times" — i. e., whilst the
crops were in the ground or were yet unreaped —
swine wore rings on their noses and were yoked,
so that they could not root up the soil, or break
through the temporary hedge.
The resolution of the sokemen to receive no
strangers into their houses is rather startling at
first sight ; but the good people of Ecclesfield
were really not so bad as to deny all hospitality
to the visitor or the helpless stranger or traveller.
It was only when the stranger was not born in
the parish, and likely to become a burden to it,
that they would not let him live there. This
comes out in the u verdict " of the Great Inquest
for the adjoining soke of Bradfield, given in the
same year, when the jury did
"Amercie John Beighton the yonger for taking
Robert lingerd not borne in our parish to be his
tenant in our parte of a littell cotige of my lords at
Brightomli, conterarie to a former payne, iijs. ivjd."
This order, which was afterwards extended to
Lingard's wife and wife's mother, was not obeyed,
and soon afterwards Beighton was fined 11. And
then a sweeping order was made, —
"That no other person within the eoke of Bradfeld
shall not reseve the said Robart lingerd, nor any other
poore men being no parishioners, into their howses,
nor to place them as inmates conterari to the statute, in
payne to forfett xxs."
It will be seen from the amount of the fines
imposed that the birth of unlawful children in the
parish and the admission of poor strangers who
might acquire a " settlement " therein were the
most serious offences of all in the eyes of the soke-
men. It was also a serious offence for the twelve
men who formed the jury to disclose their
"verdict" to anybody. It was not to be told in
Gath or published in the streets of Askelon, and,
luckily for the sokemen, there were no newspapers
in those days. So if Hugh Carr made George Wil-
kinson's nose bleed, nobody called in " apt allitera-
tion's artful aid," and published a libel about a
" Fracas between Furious Farmers." If these men
of less enlightened days were sometimes cruel in
their anxiety to keep the rates down, on the other
hand they had a strong esprit de corps, and were
careful to settle their little squabbles as between
neighbour and neighbour. Those squabbles were
not to be talked about by all the gossips in the
country side.
The washing and the " walking '' of clothes at
the public wells was an obvious nuisance. In the
Halmote Court of Durham* the practice was for-
bidden two centuries before the date of this
* ' Durham Halmote Rolls. ' (Surtees Soc.) passim.
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
203
"verdict," so that it must have died out very
slowly. Most places had their fulling-mills or
" walk mills," and in any case the use of wells for
this purpose was unnecessary. When clothes were
washed out of doors near a well or a river they
were usually trodden by the feet in tubs or vats, as
they were with the ancient Romans,* so that a
" walker " was a living " dolly " or " dolly-peg,"
who trod clothes in what we now call a " maidening-
tub."
In a game called " Milking Pails "f clothes are
washed "by the river side," as they were in the
days of Nausicaa.$ But the daughter of Alcinous
and her maidens did not wash clothes by the town
wells, but took them in a mule- cart a great way
off the town. Apparently they did not use tubs,
for we are told that they washed them in holes by
the river. To pollute the fountains of drinking
water with soiled linen was far from the thoughts
of those Greek maidens. S. 0. ADDT.
HOUNDSDITCH.
It is not, perhaps, generally known that in early
times this was the name given to the whole of the
ditch which surrounded the walls of the City of
London. At present it is confined to the street
which was constructed on the site of that portion
of the ditch which extended from Aldgate Church
to Bishopsgate ; but even in the time of Stow the
memory of the ancient designation had not entirely
died out. It may be worth while to collect the
notices which the old topographer has recorded of
these several portions of this ancient moat.
First, he says, regarding the section between
Aldgate and Bishopsgate : —
"From Aldgate Northwest to Bishopsgate, lieth the
ditch of the Cittie, called Houndes ditch, for that in
olde time when the same lay open, much filth (conueyed
forth of the Citie) especially dead Dogges were there
layd or cast : wherefore of latter time a mudde wall was
made inclosing the ditch, to keepe out the laying of such
filth as had beene accustomed." — * Survey of London,'
ed. 1603, p. 129.
Between Bishopsgate and Moorgate the moat
in Stow's time seems to have been generally known
as Deep Ditch, and of the portion beyond towards
Aldersgate he says : —
"Then wag this Burhkenning [Barbican] amongeat
the rest ouerthrowne and destroyed : and although the
ditch neare thereunto, called Hounds ditch was stopped
vp, yet the streets of long time after was called Houndes
ditch, and of late time more commonly called Bar
bican."— Ibid., p. 71.
" On the left hand and west of the Red Crosse lyeth a
streete of old time called Houndea ditch, and of later
time named Barbican, of such cause as I haue before
noted."— Ibid., p. 433.
* See the engraving from a wall-painting at Pompei
in Smith's ' Dictionary of Greek and Roman Antiquities,
third edition, i. 881.
• Mrs. Gomme's 4 Traditional Games/ i. 381.
'Odyss./vi. 31, et seq.
Lastly, he says : —
" Now againe from Newgate on the left hand or south
side, lyeth the old Bayly, which runneth downe by the
wall vpon the ditch of the Cittie called Houndes ditch
to Ludgate." — Hid., p. 391.
Brayley, in his * Londiniana,' iv. 35, says that
this Houndsditcb, in St. Sepulchre's parish, is
mentioned, under the names of Hoitndesdic and
Hundesdich, in a Chartulary of St. Giles's Hos-
pital which was drawn up about the year 1402, but
contains copies of deeds of a far more ancient date,
and is now preserved in the British Museum.
It seems to me in the highest degree improbable
that the whole of a city moat should be called after
the offal which was thrown into it, and looking to
the correspondence which has recently taken place
on the subject of ' Hungate,' and especially to
MR. S. 0. ADDY'S interesting and suggestive note
at p. 459 of the last volume, I think it far more
likely that it received its name from being part of
the fortifications raised by the Anglo-Saxon in-
dwellers of the city to keep out the Huns, or alien
population of the forests and marshes which then,
except on the south, bordered on the capital. In
the conversion of Hunes-dio into Hundes-dic we
have an instance of the excrescent d, which is not
uncommon after the liquids I and n. We have,
for instance, Hounslow, the name of a hundred
called in Domesday Honealavv. According to
Lysons (' Environs of London,' second edition,
ii. 413), the hamlet was called in ancient records
Hundeslawe and Hundeslowe. This is confirmed
by Dr. Sharpe's * Calendar of Husting Wills,' in
which are recorded several bequests to the Brethren
of the Order of Holy Trinity at Hounslow. In the
earliest will the name is spelt Houneslawe, but in
later ones Houndeslowe and Hundeslowe ('Calen-
dar,' i. 382, 693 ; ii. 200, 442). It has now reverted
to the original pronunciation. It has been other-
wise with Brondesbury, a prebendal manor of St.
Paul's, in the parish of Willesden, which in early
days was spelt Brunnesbyri, though I believe it is
still known officially at St. Paul's as Broomsbury.
In the case of Houndsditch, it is possible some
ancient record may be found to bear out what I
venture to think is a reasonable theory.
W. F. PRIDEAUX.
Kingsland, Shrewsbury.
MATTHEW ARNOLD AND THOMSON. — There
appears to be an interesting coincidence between
Mr. Arnold's noble description of the Oxus at the
close of ' Sohrab and Rustum ' and a passage in
Thomson's * Summer,' glorifying the Nile, 11. 803-
821. Both passages are about the same length ;
not a few of the epithets are very similar ; the
same telling use is made of proper names ; while
alike also are manifested sonority of rhythm and
beauty of diction. If Mr. Arnold had not Thom-
son in his mind when he wrote his splendid parallel
204
NOTES AND QUERIES. [8«s.xi.MiB.i3,w.
account, the similitude seems remarkably striking.
I subjoin one or two particulars of these passages.
Thomson has "playful youth," "fragrant isles,"
" the manly river," "winds in progressive majesty,"
"joys beneath the spreading wave." Arnold tells
of the Oxus "rejoicing," "matted, rushy isles,"
"bright speed," "a foil'd, circuitous wanderer,"
"his luminous home of waters." The manner,
too, in which the " hush'd Chorasmian waste,"
" Orgunje," "Parnere," and the "Aral Sea" chime,
so to speak, with " Gojam's sunny realm," "fair
Dambea," the "Nubian rocks," and "Egypt,"
certainly offers a curious feature of resemblance.
Moreover, the general harmony and dignity of the
lines in both poems complete the parallel. It
would be a matter of some literary concern if it
could be shown that Mr. Arnold's Wordsworthian
sympathies ever carried him to a direct apprecia-
tion of the author of ' The Seasons.' W. B.
NEW ZEALAND NAMES. — I think the following
may be considered worth a corner in ' N. & Q. '
tt is an extract from a letter replying to questions
I put to a friend of mine in the colony respecting
New Zealand names. I am not aware that there
is any book in which the same information can be
found. At any rate, I have observed that pro-
nouncing gazetteers omit even the largest territorial
divisions rather than commit themselves : —
"M£ori place-names are all composite with the mean-
ings still extant, and their component parts in common
use. The stress in Ma'ori words is on the first syllable,
and it remains the same when those words are combined
to form a place-name. Thus Nga (the) rua (two)
wahia (branches), Ngaruawahia, VVaitemata Papakiira.
Where the words are of three syllables the second stress
ia either not so noticeable or even absent, Eaikohe,
Riiwene. The same with proper names, Rangi (a god),
T£ whiri, Tangarda, Haumia (these are all deities). Te-
Moanaroa (long-water). Briefly the language consists
chiefly of mono- and dissyllables, with the stress invari-
ably on the first syllable; proper and place-names are
formed by a conjunction of these with the stress retained.
Thus, to discover the stress on any given place or proper
name, divide it, by the aid of a dictionary, into its com-
ponent parts."
JAS. PLATT, Jun.
A NOTABLE OLD LONDON TAVERN. — It appears
by some early MS. papers and documents from
which I have notes that there formerly existed in
Ludgate Street or in Ave Maria Lane, St. Martin's,
Ludgate, a tavern of much notoriety in its time,
known as the " Queen's Arms " in the reign of
Elizabeth, but which at some subsequent period,
not later than 1649 — when the property belonged
to Richard Graves, of Lincoln's Inn, gent. —
became the "Dogge or Talbott," and was con-
sumed in the Great Fire of London. It was re-
built, and appears in a MS. list of London taverns,
1690-98, in my possession, as the " ' old doge ' —
Luggeat Street," under which sign it continued until
1714, if not later; but in 1834 it was apparently
known as the " Sun." The older house, as above,
was probably a large as well as an extraordinary
one, having, it is stated, several public-houses in
it : below stairs was the " Pho3nix "; up one pair
were the " Pomegranate " and " King's Arms " ;
on the same floor, the "King's Head" and the
"Dolphin" ; on the second floor, the "Swanne"
and "Spread Eagle"; and the third floor was
called the "Queen's Bedroom." Probably, how-
ever, these names were used merely to distinguish
certain of the apartments therein. In either case,
the use of the like signs in such respect was very
uncommon ; I have not previously met with an
instance of it. It would be interesting to have
some further information respecting this notable
house. W. I. E. V.
FUNERAL CUSTOMS. — This heading reminds me
that I have for some time past intended to ask if
a certain custom prevailing in this part of Norfolk
is general in other parts of the country. Having
to arrange for the funeral of a relative, I suggested
certain names to my bailiff as the bearers. He
thereupon gently reminded me that two of my
nominees were unmarried. " What has that to do
with it?" I asked. "It is always customary,"
he gravely replied, " for married men to act as
bearers to a married man, and single men to a
single man." There being some difficulty about
finding suitable bearers, I tried to set aside the
custom ; but the idea was so repugnant to him,
and it seemed so doubtful if any single man would
have accepted the office, that I was forced to give
way. For aught I know the custom may be gene-
ral, though my attention has never been directed
to it before. HOLCOMBE INGLEBY.
Heacham, Norfolk.
THE LONGEST WORDS IN THE ENGLISH LAN-
GUAGE.— In the review of the last published
volume of the ' New English Dictionary '
('N. & Q.,' ante, p. 58) reference is made to Dr.
Murray's remark that " disproportionableness,"
which appears in that volume, is 'the longest
word in the English language." Here Dr. Murray
overlooks another veritable sesquipedale verbum,
" Establishmentarianism," which he duly gives in
vol. iii. of his great work. W. B.
* SIR ANTHONY SHERLEY THE AUTHOR op
SHAKESPEARE'S PLAYS.' — Ever since I read the
book of the late Rev. Scott Surtees with the above
title the subject has been of the greatest interest
to me, for the more I compared the plays with
the life of Sir Anthony Sherley, as described in
the 'Three Brothers' (published 1825) and in
' The Sherley Brothers,' by the late Evelyn Philip
Shirley, the more convinced have I been that there
is some solid foundation for the theory.
It only lately, however, occurred to me that the
" noted weed " of the seventy-sixth sonnet might
be sainfoin, and on combining the letters of this
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
205
word with those of the following line, " That
every word doth almost spell [adopting this
reading, for which, I believe, there is equal autho-
rity with " tell "] my name," I arrived at the fol-
lowing result, which is, I think, of sufficient
interest for discussion in ' N. & Q.' : —
" Sir Anthony Sherley of Wiston
Made me at Pota [? PolaJ
MDLLV."
There is no place of the name "Pota" which I
know of, but there is the seaport Pola not far
from Venice on the Adriatic, and it is to be noted
that the author of the sonnet is careful to use the
words "almost spell," showing that his anagram,
if such he intended it to be, was not quite
perfect.
With regard to the date, too, of course
" MDLLV.," if meant to represent 1605, is not
quite correct, but should be MDCV. ; still, however,
it is a possible way of writing 1605, and on
referring to the before-mentioned work of Mr.
Shirley, I find (p. 35) that Sir Anthony had his
headquarters at Venice for some years from 1601 :
he was there in March, 1604, and left in the
spring of 1605 for Prague (p. 49), and in March,
1606, he received a commission from the King of
Spain as Admiral of the Levant (p. 65), so he
was evidently in the comparative neighbourhood
at that period.
With all these coincidences, I think that there
is some ground for thinking that the meaning con-
tained in the sixth and seventh lines of the
76th Sonnet is at last discovered, and I venture
to submit it for the consideration and discussion
of others. 0. SHIRLEY HARRIS.
'DICTIONARY OP NATIONAL BIOGRAPHY.' —
Nathaniel Eaton, the erratic President of Harvard
College, married Miss Graves (Savage's * Genea-
logical Dictionary,' ii. 297).
Samuel Eaton, the Presbyterian divine, is very
fully noticed in Mr. J. P. Earwaker's 'East
Cheshire,' an authority which I unaccountably
overlooked.
Nathaniel Ingelo is referred to in ' Broadmead
Records ' (Hanserd Knollys Society).
Francis Kynwelmarsh, the poet, is mentioned
in ' Sussex Archaeological Collections.'
GORDON GOODWIN.
FASTING AND ABSTINENCE. — A correspondence
has been recently going on in the columns of the
Church Times on this question. A certain mis-
apprehension and confusion of thought regarding
it appears to prevail. There are the natural
fast and the ecclesiastical fast. The first is that
which is observed before receiving Communion,
except when given as viaticum. It means entire
abstinence from food and drink from midnight.
It is but rarely dispensed. Charles V. of Spain
had permission from the Pope to break this fast.
So had our own James II. and VII., and, a few
years ago, a priest, now dead, a friend of mine, had
leave from Rome to take liquid food before saying
Mass, as he was in very weak health.
The ecclesiastical fast covers fast and
abstinence. Every Friday is a day of abstinence,
i.e., from flesh meat. Abstinence affects the
quality, not the quantity, of food taken. Fast
affects both quality and quantity. Every fast
day is a day of abstinence, but an abstinence
day is not necessarily a fast day. The regulations
for the Lenten fast are published on Quinqua-
gesima Sunday by the bishops, in virtue of an
Indult from Rome, and may differ in different
countries. Thus, the rules for England are not
the same as the rules for Scotland. One rule is
universal for all fast days, which is, that on such
days, when meat is by dispensation allowed, fish
and meat are not permitted at the same meal.
Fast and abstinence, being of ecclesiastical, as
distinguished from Divine, precept, may by autho-
rity be done away with in cases of grave necessity,
or by way of relaxation. Thus, when the in-
fluenza was raging some few years ago, the Holy
See dispensed all Catholics from any Lenten
observation of fast or abstinence; and on
Friday, January 1, 1897, we were by special per-
mission of Rome dispensed from the Friday
abstinence. Some people think that the Friday
observance means abstaining from dining out or
participating in social pleasures. Such abstinence,
as a matter of personal self-denial, may be most
useful and edifying ; but it has nothing to do with
the Friday rule. A few Fridays ago, on my way
to dine out, I met a friend, who said, " Do you
dine out on Fridays 1 " I explained that it was
a question not of where you eat, but of what you
eat. A Catholic simply " takes what he can get"
in the way of maigre food, such as fish, vegetables,
pudding, cheese, and can dine comfortably without
breaking any rules.
One writer asserts that a certain Pope ordered
the Wednesdays and Fridays in Advent to be
observed (in the British Isles) as fast days, in
lieu of the Vigils formerly fasted. As a matter
of fact, the Vigils of Pentecost, St. Peter and
Paul, the Assumption, All Saints, St. Andrew (in
Scotland), and Christmas are all observed as fast-
ing days. So far as I know, the Advent fasts
above named are peculiar to Great Britain and
Ireland by Papal authority. In these lines I have
noticed the present discipline of the Church,
without going into the question of the more strict
rules of earlier days. What was very good for
the Primitive and Mediaeval Churches might not
be so good for the Church of the nineteenth cen-
tury. GEORGE ANGUS.
St.' Andrews, N.B.
CHAUCER AND VILLANI. —Chaucer's tale of "the
erl Hugelyn of Pise" is, as the poet himself
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
s. xi. MAR. IB,
tells us, derived from "the grete poete of Itaille
That highte Dant." Dante, however, was evidently
not Chaucer's only authority. In the second
stanza we read that the Archbishop Eoger
Hadde on him maad a fals suggestioun,
Thurgh which the peple gan upon him ryse,
And putten him to-priaoun in swich wyse
As ye han herd.
There is nothing of this in Dante's account. On
the other hand, in the chronicle of Giovanni
Villani, with which Chaucer might very well have
been acquainted, and in which the episode of
Ugolino's betrayal and death is narrated at length,
special mention is made of this " fals suggestioun "
on the part of the archbishop, which caused the
people to rise against the count and put him in
prison : —
" L' arcivescovo ordin6 di tradire il conte Ugolino, e
subitamento a furore di popolo il fece assalire
faccendo intendere al popolo ch' egli avea tradito Pisa,
e rendute le loro castella a1 Fiorentini e a' Lucchesi ;
e sanZa nullo tiparo rivoUoglisi il popolo addosso, a1 ar-
rendeo preso e misergli in pregione." — vii. 121.
It would be interesting to know whether Chaucer
actually did make use of the chronicle of Villani,
here or elsewhere. Prof. Skeat, in his exhaustive
notes, does not name the Florentine historian as
one of Chaucer's authorities. PAGET TOTNBEE.
Dorney Wood, Burnharn, Bucks.
STREET INSCRIPTION. — At the corner of Danvers
Street, Chelsea, the river end, stands a modern
brick house tenanted by a baker. On the wall is
an old-fashioned tablet bearing the inscription,
"This is Danvers street begun in ye year 1696 by
Benjamin Stallwood "; below this, in modern cha-
racters, " This House rebuilt by J. Cooper, 1858."
In Mr. E. Walford's 'Old and New London'
mention is made of this street, which stands on
ground formerly belonging to the Danvers family,
where, in the reign of Queen Elizabeth, Sir John
Danvers had a house and famous gardens. Ik is
singular, therefore, that no mention is made of the
above tablet, which stands in a very conspicuous
position. WALTER HAMILTON.
'THE OXFORD ENGLISH DICTIONARY.' — Those
who are taking this publication may be glad of
some details as to the contents of the section
" Everybody — Ezod," forming part of vol. iii., and
published in 1894. This part contains 2,407 main
words, 248 subordinate words, 137 special com-
binations explained under the main words ; total,
2,792 (the obvious combinations recorded and
illustrated by quotations, with separate defini-
tions, number 184 more). Of the 2,407 main
words, 699 (or 29 per cent.) are marked as
obsolete, and 46 (or less than 2 per cent.) as alien
or imperfectly naturalized. The figures for the
whole of E are 9,249 main words, 4,357 sub-
ordinate words, 923 special combinations ; total,
14,529. Of the main words, 2,409 (26 per cent.)
are marked as obsolete, and 319 (3| per cent.)
alien or imperfectly naturalized. II. M. L.
HOOD'S "I REMEMBER, I REMEMBER." — This
exquisitely pathetic song of Hood's (his master-
piece, as I think) almost compels belief, and it
seems like profanity to question any word of it j
but has the robin ever been known to build in a
lilac tree ? It is about the last place in which I
should expect to find this bird's nest.
C. C. B.
WHOOPING-COUGH FOLK-LORE. — As a modern
instance of belief in charms the following cutting
from the Daily News of 13 January may be worth
preservation in your columns : —
" ' Charmed ' for Whooping-cough. — The inquest on
the child named Stewart, who died in one of the poorer
districts of Belfast a few days ago, after being
'charmed ' for whooping-cough, was resumed yesterday.
The mother of the child and a man named M'llhatton,
who performed the 'charm,' which consisted in
passing the child three times under a donkey, the child
and animal after each operation eating oatcake from
the child's lap, gave evidence that they implicitly
believed that good effects would result. Medical evi-
dence showed that the child died from bronchitis. A
verdict to this effect was returned, no blame being
attached to M'llhatton."
A. C. W.
'SEREU GOMER.' — With the January number of
this periodical, which only made its appearance
late in February, it ceases to exist. With the
disappearance of the Sereu Gomer Wales loses its
sole tie with the first Welsh newspaper, and for
that reason the following particulars may be con-
sidered worthy of a place in the pages of ' N. & Q.1
Sereu Gomer (the Star of Gomer) was first issued
1 January, 1814, as a weekly newspaper, under the
editorship of the Rev. Joseph Harries (Gomer).
It was sold at Q^d. a number of four pages about
20 inches by 14. After sixty-six numbers had
been issued the price was raised to 8d., but it
ceased to exist with the issue of 9 August, 1815,
and Wales was for twenty years longer without a
weekly newspaper in the vernacular. Sereu Gomer
reappeared 28 January, 1818, as a fortnightly pub-
lication, after two years becoming a monthly
journal to which all the Welsh writers of the day
contributed. At that period it was a truly national
periodical, but subsequently became more and
more a Baptist one, being ultimately bought by a
number of Baptist ministers and laymen in 1850.
In 1861 it ceased to exist as a monthly, and was
issued quarterly until 1864, when once more it was
allowed to die, being reissued as a two-monthly
publication in January, 1880, and in this form it
has since regularly appeared up to the present
time. The latest editor of it is the Rev. Prof.
Silas Morris, M.A., Bangor publisher, Mr
Jenkin Howell, Aberdare. D. M. R.
8th 8. XI. MAR. 13, '97.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
207
•raft*
We must request correspondents desiring information
on family matters of only private interest to affix their
names and addresses to their queries, in order that the
answers may be addressed to them direct.
* HAMEL-TREE."— In W. Ellis's ' Modern HUB-
bandmen' of 1750 occurs, "That cross Piece of
Wood, to which the Wheel-horses in a Coach are
j fasten'd, which I call a Hamel-tree" The same
passage occurs in the London Magazine of 1740,
p. 386. Is the word still in use anywhere, in this
or any cognate form ? A description of its use and
mode of application would oblige.
J. A. H. MURRAY.
Oxford.
:<BROTANT." — This word occurs in Britten and
Holland's 'Dictionary of English Plant-Names,'
p. 516, in two senses : (1) It is stated to be a
Montgomery word for the black bryony, Tamus
communis ; (2) it is said to be the Montgomery
name for a disease of pigs in the joints. Reference
is given to John Slater's 'Botanical Studies' at
Wilmslow. Further information on this word in
either sense would be thankfully received by
THE EDITOR OF
'THE ENGLISH DIALECT DICTIONARY.'
Clarendon Press, Oxford.
"LA SOCIE'TE" DES AMIS DBS ARTS, 1817." —
These words are painted on the frame of a picture.
Would any of your readers kindly tell me anything
about the society referred to ?
EVELYN WELLINGTON.
Apsley House.
1 THE DECCANITE.'— I shall be greatly obliged
if any reader of ' N. & Q.' can inform me of the
author of ' The Deccanite ; or, Hog Hunter of
India.' JAMES ROCHE.
38, New Oxford Street.
'HAND-FLOWERER." — In an article on the
census of 1851, the Illustrated London News of
5 August, 1854, mentions (p. 118) hand-flowerer
among the occupations of the people. What does
the word mean ? Q. V.
"ALPHABET- MAN. "—What were the functions
of this Post Office official ? It appears from a MS.
in the possession of Mr. J. Eliot Hodgkin that in
or about 1682 Mr. Underbill Brees received 501.
for his services as " Alphabet-man." His name
appears (' 15th Rep. Hist. MSS. Comm.,' App. II.
p. 19) between that of the " Clerk of the Kentish
Road " and those of the three " Window-men."
Q. V.
LLOYD-LUMLEY MARRIAGE. — Humphrey Lloyd,
Denbigh, who died in 1568, married Barbara,
daughter of George Lumley, who was executed for
treason 20 June, 1538. I should be grateful to
any correspondent who would give me the date of
that marriage. JULIAN MARSHALL.
BEVIS DE HAMPTON. — Who was this person,
and what was the legend about him ? Some hang*
ings in the house at Preston, next Wingham, of
Juliana de Leybourne, Countess of Huntingdon,
who died in 1362, are said to be " worked with
the legend of Bevis de Hampton." Their value
then was only 2£., whilst that worked with the
Leybourne arms was worth over 131.
ARTHUR HUSSEY.
Wingham, Kent.
[For Bevis of Hampton, or Southampton, flee Dray ton's
' Polyolbion,' Song ii. 11. 231, 232.]
STERLAND FAMILY. — I want the date and place
of marriage of John Sterland, of Well Street,
Cripplegate, clerk, with Ann, his first wife ; and
her maiden name. The daughter of the marriage,
Elizabeth Ann, was born 30 June, 1795, and
baptized 18 Sept., 1795, at St. Giles's, Cripple-
gate. Ann Sterland died, and was buried at St.
Giles's, Cripplegate, 26 Feb., 1813, cet. forty-seven,
her abode being entered as Well Street. Can any
of your readers help me ? B. H. S.
KEMEL OR CRENELLE. — What is the precise
meaning of this term ? It does not always appear
to mean the same. There are houses existing
which never had a licence to crenellate, which
have battlements and are otherwise fortified. Did
it, therefore, solely apply to loopholes?
F. H. 0.
HERALDIC. — Of the late Mrs. E. L. Massingberfc
a morning paper says : " She was one of the few
women in England entitled to bear arms." What
is the exact meaning of this '? Will some one whc
is well versed in heraldry explain 1
W. THOMPSON.
LIEUT. WM. CUPPLES, B.M.— I am seeking
information anent this person, of whom I know
nothing, whose name is in the British * Naval
Annual ' for 1808, and repeated in the same serial
for 1817, along with a relative of mine of the
same name, viz., Dr. Wm. CuppleSj E.N., who
was appointed 7 June, 1799, and who deceased,
unmarried, at Coldstream, 1822. Both these
annuals state that the lieutenant was appointed
4 Jan., 1808. What steps must one take to get
at the inscribed particulars centring around a
Government naval appointment ; and would the
same when found give the appointee's birthplace,
including parent's name ? The late Mr. Bowditch
(son of the great mathematician), in his capital
compilation, printed in Boston, U.S., called ' Suf-
folk Surnames ' (a whimsical title, giving no proper
idea of the book's diversified contents, the Suffolk
here being simply the particular county to which
Boston belongs), refers to a Cupples appearing in
' ' • i *>
208
NOTES AND QUERIES. [8«.s.xi.MA«,i8/9T.
a list of 1805 Bombey cadets. Where can such
a list be seen ; and what is a Bombey cadet ?
J. G. ODPPLES.
Longwood, Mass., U.S.
THE GROTE MANUSCRIPTS. — I shall be obliged
by any information as to the present resting-place
of the papers and MSS. left by the late Prof.
Grote. I understand that these contain some
valuable notes respecting the printing of various
editions of the Authorized Version, which I should
like to refer to if the manuscripts are accessible.
B. P. SCATTERGOOD.
19, Grove Road, Harrogate.
EARLS OF DERWENTWATER. — Can any of your
numerous readers give me the folio wing information:
(1) Whom did Francis, first Earl of Derwentwater
marry ; (2) was the second son of the above earl
ever married ; (3) whom did the widow of Edward,
second earl, remarry, after his decease ; (4) where
does the coffin of James, third earl, now repose ?
TWICKENHAM.
KEV. DR. WILLIAM OLDTS. — Will you kindly
say through your paper where an account of the
abovenamed, who, I believe, was slain by Round-
heads about 1645, or any of his family, is to be
obtained, and oblige ? R. J. SMITH.
CHADNTING BEN AND SALLY. — Is anything
known of this couple ? They were, I believe,
singers of street ballads in Birmingham forty or
fifty years ago. A duet written for the pair begins :
He. I s'pose you know my face again,
My name is C haunting Benny —
You 've often bought my songs, 'tis plain,
When I sold them two a penny.
Since then I 've changed my mode of life,
I 've been conquered by Love's powers,
And took my Sarah for a wife,
To lighten dreary hours.
THOS. RATCLIFFE.
Worksop.
PASCO : PASCOE.— These two forms of the same
name will be recognized as being in use as both
Christian and surnames. Primarily I suppose the
word is of Latin origin. But can any one explain
the origin and meaning as a personal name ?
C. P. H.
DIALECT. — The following quotation is taken from
the Agricultural Gazette, 9 Nov., 1896, p. 404 : —
"Lincolnshire (North), November 6.— We are awfully
busy here— no time to thrash, no time to delve potatoes,
or anything else but sherl our wheat in. I wonder if our
Southern cousing know what that means. It is thus : —
Having finished potato-gathering, and the land being
BO wet and poached, it is impossible to drill the wheat,
so we sow it broadcast and then sherl it in, i. e., we use
a light plough with one horse, and push rather than
plough the land two inches deep, nicely burying the wheat,
completing the operation by harrowing lightly that
very minute. I do not know how the word is spelt,
but on all the land near the Trent after potatoes
wheat is sherled in ; it might be skirled, I cannot find
it in Peacock's glossary of words used in this district.
A broadcast drill, ten ploughs, and a set of harrows
make good work, and wheat never grows better than
when sown in this way. The horses walking in the
furrow do not trample the land, and as long as water is
not absolutely standing the seed will not melt."
What is the derivation of sherled ? Is the use
of the word known beyond North Lincolnshire 1
G. W.
DR. JOHNSON'S TEAPOT, — Where is it now ; or
where can a description of it be found other than
that given in ' Nollekens and his Times ' 1
XYLOGRAPHER,
SUPERVISORSHIPS.— Can any reader inform me
where I can obtain information respecting appoint-
ments to supervisorships of cities in the early part
of the present century ? By whom were such
appointments made ; and when did the office of
supervisor cease to exist ? T. H.
GASCOIGNE. — Can any reader of *N. & Q,' tell
me the name of the wife of Sir William Gascoigne,
Lord Chief Justice temp. Henry IV. and Henry V. ?
A. R, M.
JOSIAH WEDGWOOD.— Can any of your readers
inform me of the name or names of the painters
who executed the portraits of Wedgwood which
appear in Meteyard's ' Life ' ? The dates would
appear to be indicated by the facsimile signatures
attached to each plate, viz., 18 May, 1768, and
14 Feb., 1774. W. ROBERTS.
Carlton Villa, Klea Avenue, Clapham.
THE REV. ARCHIBALD SYMMER, 1641. — Can
any of the readers of * N. & Q.' give me informa-
tion regarding the Rev. Archibald Symmer ? He
was instituted to the living of St. Sepulchre's,
Northampton, 6 March, 1641, and in 1644 was
intruded into the rectory of Boughton, Northants,
by the Parliamentary Commissioners who had se-
questrated the living, the rightful incumbent being
absent with the king's army. I should be glad to
ascertain the date of his birth or death, the names
of his wife and children, and any facts relating to
him or them. R. M. SERJEANTSON.
St. Sepulchre's, Northampton.
SAMUEL CLAY HARVEY. — A few years since, in
some newspapers ranging from 1770 to 1780, I
came across several long and remarkable political
letters, addressed to the king, Lord North, and
others, under this signature, and dated from King
Street, Soho. They related to various matters of
national interest, and contained, among other
things, certain proposed plans and systems of
government and measures, including, of course, at
this eventful period, the subject of our American
colonies, the declaration of whose independence I
had previously heard it stated that a Mr. Harvey
had foretold ; and I have a slight recollection of
S* S. XI. Mm. 13, '97.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
209
the full name as above ID some other connexion —
with, I think, the celebrated Edmund Burke and
Tom Paine. I was much struck by the resemblance
in certain expressions and in the general style,
language, and spirit of these letters-^- with their
eloquence, boldness, and truth-^-to those of Junius,
and, indeed, so much so as to consider their authors
were identical. I gathered from the perusal that
the writer was a gentleman of great attainments,
of high social position and influence and consider-
able wealth, and also well known at the principal
European Courts, and who, although apparently
aiming at the premiership in order the better to
carry out his views, was actuated by true patriot-
ism. It appeared also as if he had been offered —
possibly as a bribe by the ministry whom he
opposed — but had declined high public honours.
Having mislaid the notes I made at the time, I
shall be glad to know, as a matter of general
interest, in which of the public prints these letters
appeared, with the dates ; and also to have the
fullest possible biographical particulars respecting
their author. I should imagine from the name
that he was related to the important Quaker
family of Clay ; and perhaps our friends on the
other side of the "herring-pond" can give us some
information on the subject. E. 0.
BIRDS' BILLS AS EAR-PICKS. — I bought recently
from a coachman a brace of pitorras. His zagan,
or coachboy, a native of Barcarota, in the province
of Badajoz, asked me to let him have the heads of
these delicious birds, explaining that he used their
bills to clean his ears with. Has such a 'usage
been mentioned in any work on European folk-
lore ? PALAMBDES.
Badajoz.
How TO PRESERVE LETTERS. — I have a large
collection of letters, illustrative of a biography,
and am desirous of permanently securing them in
the order in which they are now arranged. How
can this best be done? To send them to the
binder's might risk a loss, and would render many
of them unserviceable on account of their wanting
margins. Newspaper cuttings and printed matter,
on one side only, I propose to paste into blank
leaves of a book—unless any better method be
suggested. F. H. G.
[We ourselves use cloth cases of quarto form, large
enough to hold any average-sized letter, and numbered
consecutively like volumes. Many makers of these can be
found— as, for instance, Messrs. Fincham, of St. John
Street Road, Clerkenwell. You will probably receive
other suggestions.
BULL DOGS. — I am wanting information regard-
ing bull dogs and other British breeds, and their
connexion with bull and bear baiting. Will some
correspondent of ' N. & Q/ kindly direct me to
the literature of the subject ? fc, G, DOTLE,
"LET SLEEPING DOGS LIE."
(6th S. ix. 68, 173; 8th S. xi. 29.)
An inquiry at the first reference for the Greek
equivalent of this proverb (/n) icivei Ka/jiapti/av)
was duly answered at the second by several
correspondents, of whom one asked where the
English phrase originated, expressing astonish-
ment that it was missing from Bonn's and Hazlitt's
collections. This counter- query has obtained no
reply, and after the lapse of thirteen years is
repeated at the last reference under the heading
* Origin of a Proverb/ The Editor's relegation
of the querist to the first two references is of little
service, for the proverb certainly did not originate
from the Greek saying about Camarina, which
merely attests the antiquity of the wisdom or spirit
of the proverb ; and as it has never been fully
treated of in these pages I am tempted to offer the
results of my investigation.
Let me say in limine that the proverb really is
in both of the collections mentioned above, though
not in exactly the same shape. The earliest ex-
ample I have noted is in Chaucer's ' Troylus and
Oryseyde' (iii. 764, Skeat ; 715, Morris) :—
It is nought good a eleping hound to wake ;
and there is an allusion to the proverb in the
< Frankeleines Tale ' (1472, Skeat) :—
" Ye, wyf," quod he, "lat slepen that is stille."
I observe it next in Hey wood's 'Proverbs/ of
reputed date 1546 (1874 reprint, p. 51) : It is
evill waking of a sleeping dogge." This is repro-
duced by Hazlitt (p. 249), with a reference to a
book, written in 1581, wherein it is used. At
p. 465 Hazlitt gives the variant, [ Wake not a
sleeping lion," from the 'Countryman's New
Commonwealth,' published in 1647, which, the
lion being our national emblem, may in a book
with such a title have a political application. This
" lion " proverb is in Bonn (p. 550), where also we
find the Scots proverb from Kay : '
wauken sleeping dogs " (p. 246), a more Scotsl.ke
version of which is Allan Ramsay's It 's kittle
to waken sleeping dogs/' Shakespeare's familiarity
with the proverb is apparent in two places, Abe
first is in 'The Second Part of Henry IV. (I. u.
174) : " Wake not a sleeping wolf."
for making the Lord Chief Justice say wolf is
not clear ; perhaps it was merely to prompt 1 jal-
staff's comparison : " To wake a wolf is as bad
as to smell a fox." The second place is m
Henry VIII/ (I. i. 121) :—
This butcher's cur is venom-mouth'd, and I
Have not the power to muzzle him ; therefore I
Not wake him in his slumber.
In foreign languages the proverb is found in
very earlytim.es, Le Koux de Lmcy (of whose
210
NOTES AND QUERIES. [8«s.xi.M«.i3,'7.
collection I possess only the 1842 edition) quotes
in vol. i. p. 1 08 from a manuscript of the thirteenth
century, though the spelling is modern : " II fait
mal eveiller le chien qui dort," and in vol. ii. p. 392
from what seems to be an Anglo-Norman manu-
script: " N'eVeillez pas le chen qi dort." In a
poem of 1534, entitled ' La Guerre de Geneve '
(p. 13), quoted by Wander, occurs the following
couplet :—
Qui reveille le chien qui dort,
S'il le mort, il n'a pas tort.
But Nufiez de Guzman (' Refranes,' Salamanca,
1555, fol. 81) cites as a French proverb a "cat"
variant : i Ne veille [read N'e" veille] point le chat
qui dort." In Gabriel Meurier's ' Tremor des
Sentences/ published later in the same century
(see Le Roux de Lincy, i. 100), this reading is con-
tinued : " II ne faut pas reVeiller le chat qui dort,"
and it was versified in 1664 in * Proverbea en
Rimes '(p. 222):—
Qui resueille le chat qui dort
Sent bien[tost? apres qu'il a tort.
The " cat " version oas prevailed in the language
ever since. The wostitution of a cat for a dog
savours of the nursery . it is only children who are
told to beware of cat scratches. Our neighbours
across Channel have marred more than one proverb.
"Chien sur son fumier est hardi" is a queer
rendering of " Gallus cantat in suo sterquilinio "
(see {N. & Q.,' 8th S. vii. 54) ; and Cave canem is
a monition which might here have been heeded
with profit.
Apropos of Nunez, in whose vernacular the
proverb is nob current, he gives a kindred phrase :
" Quando la mala ventura se duerme, nadie la
despierte " (fol. 102 verso) — " When Misfortune is
asleep, let no one wake her" — which is quoted by
Kelly, without any reference, as a pendant to the
English proverb, "Don't wake a sleeping dog."*
Strange to say, Chambaud renders the French
proverb thus : " When sorrow is asleep, wake it
not" (evidently a translation of the Spanish),
which he found in Fuller's ' Gnomologia.1
The proverb is also Italian, being explained by
Varchi in his ' Ercolano ossia Dialogo delle Lingue '
(1570, p. 81), and used by the younger Buonarroti
in the third day of his ' La Fiera ' (Act IV. sc. iv.) :
Ah maestro Naatagio,
Non istate a deatar il can che dorme.
In Pescetti's collection, made in 1603, " Destar i
cani che dormono" ("To wake sleeping dogs")
appears under the heading " Male cercato " (" Evil
of one's own seeking "). " Desmisciare el can che
dorme," expressing the same thing in the singular,
is the Venetian phrase which I find in a Veneto-
Tuscan vocabulary of 1821 ; and Giusti, s.v.
1 Temerita," gives a jingling dialectal variant :
" Chi tocca il can che diace, gli ha qualcosa che
* ' Proverbs of all Nations,' 1859, p, 63.
non gli piace."* This is noticeable for an unex-
pected point of contact with our own phrase, " Let
sleeping dogs lie," diace being a dialectal pro-
nunciation of giace. "Non stuzzicare il can che
dorme " is perhaps the more usual Italian expres-
sion, as used by Alessandro Allegri ('Rime e
Prose,' Amsterdam, 1754, p. 176).
I end my citations with two from German autho-
rities. The first, the older, being in Middle High
German, is from IgnazvonZingerle's 'Sprichworter
im Mittelalter' (Vienna, 1864, p. 73) : " Den slafen-
den hunt sal nymant wecken " (" No one should
wake a sleeping dog ") ; the later and more concise
is from Franck's * Sprichworter ' (Frankf. o. M.,
1541, i. 74a): "Lass den hund schlaffen " (" Let
the dog sleep").
" Let sleeping dogs lie" is apparently a modern
reconstruction, perhaps first devised for metrical
use ; but, popular as it is, I have failed to note any
examples of it in print. The German version last
quoted is its equal in conciseness, but its inferior
in vigour because less expressive. F. ADAMS.
106 A, Albany Road, Camber well.
CORNISH HURLING (8th S. xi. 108).— What of
the Norfolk game known as " camping," which is
mentioned in the Quarterly Review, January,
p. 145 ? It is, or was, a rougher game than the
roughest football. In a celebrated "camping"
between Norfolk and Suffolk, on Diss Common,
three hundred men played on each side, and those
of Norfolk inquired tauntingly whether their ad-
versaries had brought their coffins with them.
" The' Suffolk men, after fourteen hours, were the
victors. Nine deaths were the result of the con-
flict in a fortnight." Perhaps some East Anglian
antiquary will be good enough to refer us to the
best account of " camping," and tell us whether it
was formerly played at set seasons.
In Scotland football, which used to be played at
Yule, has been transferred to New Year's Day, that
festival having superseded Christmas in importance,
for theological reasons. According to the Glasgow
Herald, Saturday, 2 Jan., ball-playing began in
the streets of Kirk wall at half- past eight on New
Year's Day. "The first two balls were easily got
by players from the harbour end of the town, but
the adult ball at one o'clock went to the upper end."
At Kirkcaldy, "the ruins of Ravenscraig Castle
and adjacent grounds were, in accordance with an
old custom, thrown open There the ancient
Scottish game of * she kyles ' was played." This
game is known to the Southron as ninepins.
M. P.
Your correspondent M. F. will find some
information about ancient ball-games, and espe-
cially those which were connected with religious
Who touches a dog that is lying gets something he
doesn't like,
8<»S. XI. MAB. 13, W.]
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211
observances in December, in " Mceurs et Vie Prive"e
des Fran^ais dans les premiers Si&cles de la Mon-
archie, par Emile de la B4dolli6re," Paris, 1855,
8vo., torn. i. 125 ; torn. ii. 342 ; torn. iii. 376, &c.
Should he be unable to find the book elsewhere,
I should be happy to show it to him at any time.
I am not very willing to lend books, particularly
foreign books, in paper covers, or I would offer
the loan of my own copy. JULIAN MARSHALL.
13, Belsize Avenue, N.W.
I do not know the game of hurling, but there
appears to be an essential difference between it
and the game of the hood as played at Haxey;
and there is the same difference between the
latter and the French ball-play described in the
paper in Folk-lore to which M. F. refers. The
difference is this : the hood is not a ball-game,
the others are. It may be that "ball -games
between certain districts, when traditionally con-
nected with religious festivals and churches,
are Christian adaptations of heathen ceremonies
relating to the sun"; but I do not see how
the sun could ever come to be represented by
an eighteen-inch-long roll of leather or sacking,
such as the " hood " is. I believe the writer of the
paper in Folk-lore recognizes this difficulty in
the way of the acceptance of her theory of the
origin of the game. Another difficulty is the
existence of a local tradition to the effect that the
game originated in an incident in the history of
the Mowbray family, who were formerly connected
with this neighbourhood. I have not seen it sug-
gested, though possibly it may be the case, that
before the time of the Mowbrays the game was
played with a ball, for which, in consequence of
the incident referred to, a " hood" was afterwards
substituted. 0. 0. B.
A long description of this ancient exercise
appears in ' Sports and Pastimes of the People of
England/ by Joseph Strutt, pp. 166-8.
EVEKARD HOME COLEMAN.
71, Brecknock Road.
SIR MICHAEL COSTA (8th S. xi. 129).— The
Athenceum of 3 May, 1884, reported the death of
Sir Michael Costa on 29 April, and stated that
he was born at Naples in 1810, but according to
M. Pougin in 1807. The Standard of 30 April
asserts that he was not a Neapolitan. His father
(name not given) was an Italian of Spanish ex-
traction, his mother was a Swiss, and he himself
was born on 4 Feb., 1810, at Geneva. He died
his residence, Seafield Villas, West Brighton,
and was buried in the catacombs at Kensal Green
Cemetery on 6 May, 1884.
EVERARD HOME COLEMAN.
1 1, Brecknock Road.
Sir Michael Costa (born 1810, died 1884), son
Cavaliere Pasquale Costa, was born in Naples
on 4 Feb., 1810. He learnt the rudiments of music
from his maternal grandfather, Giacomo Tritto,
and was subsequently placed at the Royal Academy
of his native town. ALFRED THISTLEWOOD.
According to Grove's ' Dictionary of Music and
Musicians,' the father of this well-known musician
was the Cavaliere Pasquale Costa, a member of an
old Spanish family. The date of his death is not
given, nor is it recorded by Fe"tis.
ARTHUR F. HILL.
PETER FIN (8tb S. xi. 167).— Peter Fin, a 6sh-
monger, is the hero of Hood's poem ' The Mermaid
of Margate,' who is ensnared by a mermaid
As lovely and fair as sin !
But woe, deep water and woe to him
That she snareth, like Peter Fin.
The mermaid, like the water-sprite in Schiller's
ballad, draws Peter down to the bottom of the
sea in revenge for the deaths of her relatives — •
her "father, who was a skate," and her "sister, a
maid," but is rescued by "a boat of Deal but
builded of oak"; and the poem concludes thus :—
The skipper gave him a dram aa he lay
And chafed hia shivering skin ;
And the angel returned who was flying away
With the spirit of Peter Fin.
JOHN HEBB.
Willesden Green.
"PARLIAMENT" (8th S. x. 455 ; xi. 93).— May
I be permitted to add to my contribution at the
second reference the following lines from ' Rejected
Addresses,' ix., ' A Tale of Drury Lane '?—
Eat we and drink we, join to rum
Roast beef and pudding of the plum;
Forth from thy nook, John Homer, come,
With bread of ginger brown thy thumb,
For this ia Drury 's gay day :
Roll, roll thy hoop, and twirl thy tops,
And buy, to glad thy smiling chops,
Crisp parliament with lollypopa,
And fingers of the Lady.
F. C. BIRKBECK TERRY.
DOUGLAS JERROLD'S DRAMATIC WORKS (8th S.
xi. 121).— Referring to MR. WALTER JERROLD'S
list of Douglas Jerrold's plays, may I be allowed
to point out that the comedy entitled ' Paul Pry/
although frequently attributed to the pen of
Douglas Jerrold and sometimes even to Theodore
Hook, was actually written by John Poole (born
1792, died 1879), as will be seen by referring to
1 N. & Q.,' 8th S. ix. 300, where all doubts as to
the authorship of ' Paul Pry ' were settled ?
OWL.
SIR JOHN JERVIS (7lb S. ix. 48 ; 3«h S. xi. 17,
58). — My reason for not referring G. F. R. B. to
Foss's 'Dictionary of the Judges of England
(1066-1870) ' was because I supposed that he was
aware of the memoir of Sir John Jervia in that
work. There is, however, a singular blunder in the
212
NOTES AND QUERIES. [s«» s. xi. MAE. 13, w.
story of the card-sharping case tried before Sir
John at Lewes in 1853, referring us to " His Life
by Brooke " (sic), ii. 142, the writer meaning the
'Life and Letters of the Rev. F. W. Robertson,'
edited by the Rev. Stopford A. Brooke, vol. ii.
134. Some little notice of Sir John Jervis and
his wife and family may be found under St. Vin-
cent in Burke's 'Peerage and Baronetage,' 1877.
Gunning, in his ' Reminiscences of Cambridge,'
when on a visit to his friend Dr. Thackeray at
Chester, narrates the following anecdote of Sir
John on his entrance to political life : —
"One morning when I was at breakfast with him
[i. e.. Dr. Thackeray] amongst others, I recognized John
Jervis passing by, who was at the very time beginning
his canvass for the city. As I was going to have my
hair cut, Thackeray eaid, ' Ask the barber, in the way
of conversation, what he thinks of Jervis's chance of
success.' The man, who was a violent partisan of the
Grosvenor family, replied, ' Poor man, the opposition
party have found out that he has two or three thousand
pounds to lose, which they will soon ease him of, and
then send him about his business ! ' His prediction was
not verified ; Jervis was returned, and retained his seat
as long as he sat in Parliament. To this circumstance
he owed his appointment as Attorney-General, and his
subsequent election to the Bench as Chief Justice of the
Common Pleas."— Vol. ii. p. 159.
The Grosvenors were always Whigs, and pos-
sessed much influence in the city of Chester.
JOHN PICKFORD, M.A.
Newbourne Rectory, Woodbridge.
BISHOP EZEKIBL HOPKINS (8th S. x. 176, 261).
— I have searched here in vain for a copy of
Foster's ' Alumni Oxonienses.' If MR. RADCLIFFB
or any other contributor to ' N. & Q.' would kindly
give an extract from it regarding Bishop Hopkins
and his son Samuel, I should be exceedingly
obliged. CHARLES H. OLSEN.
Montreal.
[Here is what our contributor seeks, copied verbatim
et literatim : —
" Hopkins, Esechiel, ' serv.' Magdalen Coll., matric.
19 Nov., 1650; chorister 1648 ; B. A. 17 Oct., 1653; M.A.
5 June, 1656 ; usher of the College school 1655-6 ; chap-
lain 1656-8; admitted to Merchant Taylors' school
1646 (as 2 s. John, rector of Pinhoe, Devon) ; born there
3 Dec., 1634; chaplain to his father - in - law, Lord
Robartes, lord-lieutenant of Ireland ; rector of St. Mary
Arches, in Exeter, 1666 ; archdeacon and treasurer of
Waterford 1669; prebendary of St. Patrick's, Dublin,
1669 ; dean of Raphoe, bishop of Raphoe 1671, and of
Londonderry 1681 ; driven thence by the Irish 1688,
returned to England, minister of St. Mary Aldermanbury
8 Sep., 1689, until his death, 19 June, 1690. See ' Ath ,'
iv. 287; Rawl., iii. 215; Burrows, 517; Poster's ' Index
Eccl.'; 'London Marriage Licenses,' ed. Poster; Robin-
son, i. 175; Bloxam, i. 66; Cotton's 'Pasti Ecc. Hib ,'
iii. 167 ; Gardiner, 190 ; and ' D. N. B.'
;f Hopkins, Samuel, born at Raphoe, co. Donegal, s.
Ezechiell, bishop of Derry. Wadham Coll. matric
25 May, 1683, aged 14. [5]."]
A LANCASHIRE HORNPIPE (8tb S. xi. 127).-—
Shakspeare speaks, somewhere, of " the drone of a
Lincolnshire bagpipe"; and Canon Taylor, 'Origin
of the Aryans,1 p. 77, compares "the Coritavi,
the Celtic tribe which occupied part of Lincoln-
shire and the valley of the Trent," with " the
Caledonians " and other Celtic tribes.
THOMAS J. JEAKES.
There are several references to the fame of
Lancashire hornpipes in Chappell's * Popular
Music.' WILLIAM E. A. AXON.
•
LITTLECOT TRAGEDY (8th S. xi. 167).— It can
scarcely be necessary to add anything to the refer-
ences given in ' N. & Q.,' 7th S. xi. 517.
W. C. B.
Sir Walter Scott mentions this not in a novel,
but in a poem. See ' Eokeby,' v. 27, and note 3 G,
C. F. S. WARREN, M.A.
Longford Coventry.
[Other replies are acknowledged.]
OLD PEWTER WARE (8th S. xi. 128).— Twenty-
two communications have appeared in *N. & Q.'
on this subject, of which little is known. The only
work referred to is the Rdiquary (New Series),
vols. v. to vii., which contains a few marks of
London makers in 1669.
I would also include long and interesting articles
in the City Press of 8 December, 1891, 16 and 20
April, 1892, for historical sketches of the Pewterers*
Company and history of the metal.
MR. SCATTERGOOD gives Townsend and Compton
as the assumed makers. Is the latter correct ?
According to the reprint of the * London Directory '
for 1677, "Mr. Townsend" and "Thorn Compere"
both lived in Fish Street Hill, but the occupation
is in neither case given.
EVERABD HOME COLEMAN.
71, Brecknock Road.
THE SHAKSPEARIAN INTERROGATIVE (8th S. xi.
88). — This heading appears somewhat vague, as
MR. THOMAS BAYNE evidently refers not to
the way in which Shakespeare uses a special
interrogative, but to Shakespeare's employment of
the nominative case who in interrogation instead
of the objective case whom, contrary to the
ordinary rule in grammar, that transitive verbs
and prepositions govern an objective case. Shake-
speare, I may remark, sometimes similarly treats
also the relative pronoun ; cf. : —
Who once again
I tender to thy hand.
'Tempest, 'IV. i. 4, 5.
There can be no doubt that who in the passage
quoted by MR. BAYNE from the Saturday Review
should be whom. Why should there be any
" double ellipsis"? " Who did you ask to dinner ?"
"Who is she going to marry?" "Who are you
waiting for?" These and similar expressions one
constantly hears without supposing for a moment
that who is equivalent to "who is it that." If
any one were to take the trouble, he would soon
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213
be able to gather instances of the use of who for
whom from the novels of the present day — at least,
that is my experience. Whether this use is due
to ignorance or slovenliness of expression, it is, oi
course, impossible to say.
F. C. BIRKBEOK TERRY.
There need be no cavilling over the sentence
denounced ^by MR. BAYNE ; an explanation by
ellipsis see'ms impossible. The use of who for
whom comes from the same vulgar source as the
slang that abounds in present-day writing. The
grammar of Elizabethans is privileged against
criticism ; yet, if we compare Marlowe's " Who have
we there?" (' Edward II.,' II. i.) with Isaiah xxii.
16, " Whom hast thou here ?" which I copy from a
Bible of 1599, it is evident that not all Elizabeth's
subjects were as ungrammatical as her poets.
. The solecism above noticed is provokingly pre-
valent in our own days ; still more so is the con-
verse use of whom for who, of which I notice in
your own columns (ante, p. 164) an example pro-
vided by MR. PYM YEATMAN: "Dr. Walter
Pope, whom Hunter supposes was his half-brother."
This, too, is Shakespearian ; witness the following
sample among others (' Tempest,' III. iii. 92) : —
Young Ferdinand, ivhom. they suppose is drown'd.
F. ADAMS.
106A, Albany Road, Camberwell.
'THE FORTUNE-TELLER' (8th S. xi. 89). —If
your correspondent will turn to * N. & Q.,' 8th S.
viii. 38, he will find the name and address of a
contributor who was compiling a catalogue of the
pictures painted by the Rev. M. W. Peters, R.A.
At 8th S. viii. 439 there are references to articles
in ' N. & Q.' on his paintings, engravings there-
from, and names of their present owners.
EVERARD HOME COLEMAN.
71, Brecknock Road.
EVENING SERVICES IN WESTMINSTER ABBEY
(8th S. xi. 26, 153). — Evening services are now a
matter of course with " all denominations," but I
doubt whether they can be called a u revival."
Tradition, at home and abroad, is against them, and
[ remember an Anglican friend assuring me that
they are a production of "gas and Nonconformity."
At home the tradition is preserved in the custom
Df the Church of England cathedals, where Even-
song is sung at 3 or 4 of the afternoon. At Christ
Church, Oxford, it is (or was, in my day) at 5.
I ntil twenty or thirty years ago there was no
evening service. Neither was there in Scotland.
fhen I was a boy, both the Church of Scotland
md the Episcopal Churches held their afternoon
'ervices at 2 or 2.30 P.M. In this I have always
nought France and Scotland were, as in so many
ther things, united. At present, in France, 2 or
> is the usual hour for Vespers. Here, in St.
Andrews, the 2 o'clock afternoon service still holds
good, plus evening services as well. On the Con-
tinent, evening services are, I believe, rare. In
Rome, Vespers are sung in the afternoon about
two hours before sunset, the canonical hour for
such a service, and the churches are closed at
the Ave Maria. GEOBGE ANGUS.
St. Andrews, N.B.
JESSAMY (8th S. xi. 148).— "'The History of
Jemmy and Jenny Jessamy/ in 3 vols., 1753, is
by Mrs. Eliza Haywood, who for the looseness of
her early productions is gibbeted in the ' Dunciad,'
ii. 157-166 " (' N. & Q.,' 4» S. vii. 342).
C. F. S. WARREN, M.A.
Longford, Coventry.
The points raised are noticed in the ' Life of
Oliver Goldsmith,' Austin Dobson, "Great
Writers," 1888, pp. 154, 155.
ARTHUR MAYALL.
JOHN GREENLEAF WHITTIER (8th S. xi. 28, 91).
— MR. ARTHUR MAY ALL'S communication is a
model of what an answer should not be ; and why
he has wasted time and space in confessing that
he knows nothing whatever touching the point in
question puzzles me. His non-knowledge can
only be interesting to himself. As a New Eng-
lander I surely do not need to be reminded of the
widely-known fact of the poet's English ancestors
having come to America in 1640, any more, for-
sooth, than an Englishman desires information
from a Yankee anent the period when good Queen
Victoria's German forefathers entered England. As
a surname Whittier is one of the commonest in
New England, enjoying a fair representation in all
parts of the United States, including, I believe,
Alaska ; and yet, insomuch that England is the
unquestioned fatherland of New England (hardly
to be said of any other part of the American con-
tinent), a search through English printed topo-
graphy fails to reveal that Whittier, so spelt, has
ever existed in England. The fact that the an-
cestor of America's single great poet (adored
with the deepest intensity of affection, admiration,
reverence, daily increasing), one Thomas Whittier,
so spelt, calling himself a labourer, came here
as the servant of a well-to-do Puritan farmer im-
migrant, is well authenticated. But, notwith-
standing my failure to meet with the name in
English annals, I feel satisfied that as a patro-
nymic it is as purely English as Shakespeare,
and as uncommon, with the not unreasonable
probability behind it of having been owned by
individuals who might have nestled for ages in
some hamlet without the accident of fame falling
upon any one of them to cause the name to come
before the glare of publicity. To make now any
attempt to find the link connecting the poet with
lis English forefathers will perhaps be an absurd
and hopeless task. I heartily, however, wish that
some modern spirit endowed with the instincts of
214
NOTES AND QUERIES. [8*s.xi.iUB.iv97.
a Halliwell-Phillipps might give us a single in-
stance of the name occurring in England either
in modern or ancient times. C. C. B/s supposition
that it is a corrupt form of the old appellation for a
worker in leather is curious, in the teeth of the fact
of Whittier himself, as a lad in his father's farm-
house in the north parish of Haverhill, Essex Co.,
Mass., before the days of shoe machinery, having
gone^ through the manual process of completing
certain parts of a shoe for the then primitive shoe-
men of Haverhill, now the largest manufacturing
centre for that industry in the world.
SHAWMUT.
Massachusetts, U.S.
CHINESE PLATING-CARDS (8th S. viii. 467 ; xi. 76,
150). — MR. KENNEDY has so graphically described
bis cards that it is quite unnecessary for me to see
them. I know exactly what they are, and am
most happy to be able to set his mind at rest con-
cerning them. His first kind are, as he assumes,
the "domino" cards; his third kind, as he also
assumes, are the " white " cards. His second kind
are in all but one particular my " chess " cards, or
' red " cards; the ten all alike are pawns (Chinese
ping means a soldier); the six of which he has four
each are the general, scholar, elephant, carriage
horse, and cannon. So far the set corresponds
with mine ; but the thirty-fifth card, which I am
not so fortunate as to possess, makes it appear
different. This card, however, is what Western
card-players would call a "joker," or, more vulgarly,
a '"devil." See the handbook on euchre. The
Chinese word, which MR. KENNEDY spells ghin,
would be written kin by purists, and the meaning
is that given, namely, "gold." I would be only
too glad to lend the Dutch periodical did I possess
it; but : do not. I stumbled across it at the
British Museum. JAS. PLATT, Jun.
EDMUND BURKE (8th S. xi. 87).— No other oil
painting of Burke was exhibited than that by
Barry in 1774. There was a bust in marble by
T. Hickey in 1791, and a medal by C. Taconet in
1791. The only other portraits that appear in my
'Index of Exhibited Portraits' are, bust by C.
Moore in 1852, and one by W. Theed in 1858.
The only portrait engraved before 1774 is that
after Keynolds (1770). ALGERNON GRAVES.
Many of his MSS. and, I believe, one of his
portraits passed into the hands of Mr. Harford,
his great political supporter at Bristol. A. W. H.
might obtain further information by writing to the
Rev. Canon Harford, ^Dean's Yard, Westminster
Abbey. E. WALFORD.
Ventnor.
PASSAGE IN ' MIDDLKMABCH ' (8th S. xi. 147).
— Though I never saw Dr. Young myself, I knew
all his family. I never heard that he wrote verses,
and doubt it very much. His brother, Mr, Robert
Young, wrote verses, some of which I possess.
These, though of no great merit, and only written
to please himself and his friends, are far from
being detestable. Is it possible that M. Cham-
pollion, who also studied the Egyptian hiero-
glyphics, and endeavoured to filch from Dr. Young
the credit of being the earliest discoverer of their
meaning, may have been the man who wrote de-
testable verses ? The death, quite lately, of his
niece, whom I knew all my life, prevents my being
able to speak with certainly about the matter.
CHARLOTTE G. BOGER.
Chart Sutton.
Looking into A llibone, I do not find that Thomas
Young, the Egyptologist, wrote verses. If MR.
PALMER had seen as much as I have of the extra-
ordinary blunders which people make, he would
not think this of George Eliot's at all inconceivable.
The objection which I see is different ; that if she
had really known the * Night Thoughts,' I think-
though there is much wearisome platitude in them
— she would have found the word " detestable "
too strong. But many people have only glanced
at them. C. F. S. WARREN, M.A.
Longford, Coventry.
HOLE HOUSE (8th S. xi. 148). — This may refer
to a manor house in Kent at one time in the pos-
session of a member of the family of the historian
Gibbon. The manor or estate is spoken of as " The
Hole," and Philipott, in his * Villare Cantianum/
ed. 1659, p. 196, says : —
" Hole in this Parish [Rolvenden] was a leat which
had Owners of that Sirname, for in the year 1340 Henry
at Hole demises this place by Deed to his two Sisters
Honor and Alice ; but for many descents past, it hath
been in the Patrimony of Gibbons," &c.
WM. NORMAN.
Judging from a similar name in Saddleworth,
co. York, the term hole does not refer to any
particular kind of house, but to the place or situa-
tion where the building is erected. Hole, from
A.-S. hoi and hall, Icel. hola, a hole or low place.
Hole House would mean the house in the hollow.
Hobhole and Wellihole are dwelling-places adjacent
to the above. JOHN RADCLIFFE.
"ABRAHAM'S BOSOM" (8th S. xi. 67).— The
question of the origin of this expression, as exist-
ing in the days of our Lord, is examined by J.
Lightfoot in his * Horae Hebraicae ' in the note on
St. Luke xvi. 22. He states that there are three
descriptions of the unseen among the Jews : (1) "in
horto Edeno, vel Paradiso"; (2) "sub throno
glorias" ; (3) " in sinu Abrahami." In a long dis-
quisition upon the last he says : lf Occurrit phrasio-
logia apud Thalmudicos in Kiddusbin, fol. 72, et
citatur locus iste a Juchasin, fol. 75, 2." He
inserts the whole chapter, in which there are the
words, as translated : "Hodie sedet ille in sinu
Abrahse." It not being undisputed to whom thia
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
215
applies, he farther examines the question of whom
it is spoken, and comes to the conclusion that it
was spoken of Rabbi Judah, whose history is in
both the Talmuds ; who " in Hierosolymitano
aufertur per angelos ; in Babylonico collocatur
in sinu Abrahse."
There is another long extract from 'Midras
Echah,' fol. 68, 1 : "Erat fcemina, mater septem
martyrum [sic 2 Maccab. vii.] quss dixit, Ito,
0 fill mi, ad Abrahamum, pattern vestrum"
('Opp.,' Francof., 1699, torn. ii. pp. 546-8).
At p. 40 of the same volume Lightfoot has from
' Juchas.,' fol. 77, 4, "Dixit K. Ada Ben Ahavze,
* hodie in Abrahse sinu sedes.' "
ED. MARSHALL.
The idea comes from the Eastern way of reclining
at a banquet, each man being said to lie in the
bosom of the one above him, as, if on the same
couch, he actually might do. Future blessedness
was represented under this figure, and Abraham,
the father of the faithful, as the host in whose
bosom the dead might lie. Lightfoot, in the
4 Horse Hebraicss/ on Luke xvi. 22, quotes the
phrase from the Talmud, Kiddushin, fol. 72,
* Works/ ed. Pitman, xi. 161.
0. F. S. WARREN, M.A.
Longford, Coventry.
The late Dr. Edersheim remarks :—
"Again, as regards the expression ' Abraham's bosom,'
occurs, although not frequently, in Jewish writings
1 Mace. xiii. 16; Kidd., 72 b, first line]. On the other
hand, the appeal to Abraham is so frequent, his presence
i merits are so constantly invoked ; notably, he is so
>xpresaly designated as he who receives the penitent into
aradise [Erub. 19 a], that we can see how congruous,
especially to the higher Jewish teaching, which dealt not
coarsely sensuous descriptions of the Gan Eden, or
Paradise, the phrase 'Abraham's bosom' must have
seen."— 'Jesus the Messiah,' ii. 280.
EDWARD H. MARSHALL, M.A.
Lightfoot (' Horse Hebraicee,' on S. Luc. xvi. 22)
[uotes the Talmud of Babylon, which says of Kabbi
Jadah, who had died in the odour of sanctity,
»HMrtBMp»ra 3W Dm, "hodie sedet ille in
inu Abrahse. " He adds the explanatory note : —
' Quisnam inter eos (ec. Judaeos), cum de eo diceretur,
1 erat in sinu Abraham!, non absque omni scrupulo
Higeret, eum esse etiam in ipsis amplexibus Abraham!
prout solid sunt discumbere ad mensam unus in sinu
Uerius) in summis deliciis summae felicitatis Paradisi ? "
B. M. SPENCE, M.A.
Manse of Arbuthnott, N.B.
OLDEST PARISH REGISTER (8tb S. xi. 108).—
lisa THOYTS'S question is one of those which are
; susceptible of an answer. Parish registers in
gland began under an injunction from Crom-
'11, 1538. If there were only one left; of this
the question could be answered ; but there
re several, though it is, of course, exceptional ; in
1830, however, there were 812. It is quite true
that entries are found in a few of 1536 and even
earlier ; but these were privately made, and
because they cannot be supposed complete they
cannot be called part of the register. Their
existence shows that some sort of record was not
unknown to parish priests ; but so far as I know
no formal book of the kind anywhere exists. The
earliest of these private entries published in Mr.
Burn's * History of Parish Registers ' is in 1528.
To this book, as well as Mr. Chester Waters's
smaller work, Miss THOTTS should refer ; she will
there find an account of the monastic registers, the
predecessors of those of parishes.
0. F. S. WARREN, M.A.
Longford, Coventry.
Registers were certainly kept long before 1536.
The following will serve as an example. In a
pleading in the Duchy Court of Lancaster con-
cerning the title to messuages and lands in the
parish of Halsall, made in 1529, one of the wit-
nesses (a chaplain) produced " a book showing the
names of the persons buried every year at the
parish church of Halsall and also the churching of
women," and in this book was the burial in 1501
of the father of the plaintiff, and in 1498 the
churching of his mother. There is also a memo-
randum to the effect that this register was "an
authorized book made by Sir William Houghton,
Curate of Halsall." HENRY FISHWICK.
POPE'S EPITAPH ON MRS. ELIZABETH CORBET
(8th S. xi. 28, 150).— Can there have been any
relationship between Elizabeth Corbet and Bishop
Richard Corbet ? There is a long interval between,
for the bishop's father, Vincent Corbet, died near
Twickenham in 1619. Vincent Corbet (sometimes
called Poynter) was a flourishing gardener at Ewell,
in Surrey, where the future bishop was born in
1582. The bishop's mother Benedicta — usually
shortened to Benet — survived till 1634, and the
bishop himself died on 28 July, 1635.
A singular coincidence is that Miles Corbet, the
regicide, who died in 1607, married the relict of
John Spelman, of Narburgh, Norfolk, and that
she was the daughter of W. Saunders, of Ewell.
From these facts it would seem most probable that
Vincent Corbet, the gardener of Ewell and Twicken-
ham, Bishop Corbet his son, and Miles Corbet,
husband of a woman of Ewell, were related to the
Elizabeth Corbet commemorated by poet Pope of
Twickenham.
I noted the death on 30 January, 1894, of
Vincent Allen Corbet, only son of the late Pryce
Corbet, and grandson of the late Vincent Corbet,
M.A. Cambridge. A still further evidence of the
persistency of the name Vincent in the Corbet
family was a notice in the East Anglian Daily
Times of 25 March, 1894 or 1895 (my reference is
imperfect), that a marriage had been arranged
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between Mr. Vincent Corbett (sic), of Her
Majesty's Diplomatic Service, and the Hon. Mabel
Sturt, youngest daughter of Lord Alington.
JAMES HOOPER.
This lady was probably unmarried. Your cor-
respondent at the latter reference is wrong in
believing that it was formerly the custom for
women, "upon arriving at a certain age," to be
designated with the prefix of " Mrs." ^( = Mistress)
to their respective names. The designation was
long applied to the names of females of quality
(having no higher title) only, whether married or
single, and quite irrespective of age. Apparently
about the beginning of the eighteenth century it
was first used in its abbreviated form of " Miss "
( = "Mis"), so far only as the like unmarried
females of any age were concerned, but who were
then (as previously) likewise designated " Madam "
— the married gentlewoman being still styled either
"Mrs." or "Madam," the latter title, so used,
having, with other French tastes, probably been
introduced here, at Court, upon the arrival in
1670 of Louise de Querouaille, afterwards Duchess
of Portsmouth, and one of Charles IPs mistresses ;
but such use of " Madam " began to decline in the
reign of George I., although it was slow in dying
out, and in some measure survived — at least with
several of its old possessors — until the early part
of the present century, when our relations with the
French under the first Napoleon doubtless tended
to bury it in oblivion. With the introduction of
" Miss " as above came that of " Master," as then
applied only to otherwise untitled males of quality
while " under age " and unmarried.
W. I. E. V.
"HARPIE"OR "HARPY" (8th S. xi. 47). —
These fabulous creatures are still on the list of
" Common Charges " in heraldic works, although
I am not aware of their use in any coat of to-day.
Guillim, in his 'Display of Heraldrie,' 1611, places
them in a class of so-called " exorbitant animals,"
and (p. 183) says : —
"He beareth Azure, an Harpey with her wings dis-
closed, her Haire flotant, Or, Armed of the same. Of
this kind of bird (or rather Monster) Virgil writeth in
this manner :
Of Monsters all, most monstrous this ; no greater wrath
God sends 'mongst men; it comes from dephth of
pitchy Hell ;
And Virgins face, but wombe-like gulfe unsatiat hatb,
Her hands are griping clawes, her colour pale and fell.
The Field is Azure, an Harpey displaied, Crined,
Crowned, and Armed, Or. These are the Armes of the
noble City of Norenberga The Harpey^ (saith Upton)
should be given to such persons as haue committed man-
slaughter, to the end that by the often view of their
Ensignes they might bee moued to bewaile the foulnesse
of their offence."
Worthy, in his 'Practical Heraldry,' 1889
(p. 43), places the harpy with "imaginary
objects," and describes it as having " the face and
breast of a beautiful girl, with the body and legs
of a vulture," whilst Edgar, in his ' Comic His-
tory of Heraldry' (1878), p. 85, places this
creature under the head of " Chimerical Figures,"
and says : —
" This creature is half a woman and half a bird, the
upper part thus resembling one of the fair and the lower
part one of the fowl."
This description is illustrated by a sketch of a
bird with the head of a young woman *' of the
period " with a cigarette in her mouth, holding
in her dexter claw a grog glass.
W. NORMAN.
The following note from Gibbon's ' Decline and
Fall of the Roman Empire ' may be of service to
your correspondent : —
"There are few conjectures so happy as that of
Le Clerc (' Biblioth. Univ.,' i. 218) who supposes that
the harpies were only locusts. The Syrian or
Phoenician name of those insects, their noisy flight, the
stench and devastation which they occasion, and the
north wind which drives them into the sea, all contribute
to form this striking resemblance."
ED. PHILIP BELBEN.
Branksome Chine. Bournemouth.
'THE SHIP OF FOOLS' (8th S. xi. 145).— The
first edition of Sebastian Brandt's ' Ship of Fools '
was published in the Swabian dialect in the year
1494. I have a copy of its translation into Latin
by Prof. Locher in the year 1497, and this was
"imitated in the same language and under the
same title by Ascensius in 1507." During the
sixteenth century many editions of this popular
work were translated into English, French, and
German.
Your correspondent MR. R. H. THORNTON is
mistaken as to the heading of the eleventh picture,
which in reality, but differently expressed, belongs
to the twelfth. He rightly describes the former as
representing a fool leaning on a club and talking
with a woman of lesser size than himself, sitting on
a board and each of his feet resting on a book.
The correct heading to the eleventh is ' De Con-
temptu Scripture ' (sic), while that to the twelfth
is not ' De Incredulis,' but 'De Improvidis Fatuis.'
The four lines which he quotes from Ascensius do
not appear in the edition of 1497. As Brandt's
decease did not occur until 1520, it seems extra-
ordinary that Ascensius should have taken such
liberties with the author's text, which had been so
faithfully rendered by Locher, more especially as
the Basle edition of 1497 was issued under Brandt's
own superintendence, " Denuo seduloque revisa :
felici exorditur principle."
C. LEESON PRINCE.
The Observatory, Crowborough Hill, Sussex.
RACHEL DE LA. POLE (8th S. x, 516 ; xi. 94, 178).
— Will W. I. R. V. kindly say if it is known who
the " Thomas Ryther, of Linstead, Kent, Sewer
8" S. XI. MAR. 13, '97.J
NOTES AND QUERIES.
217
and Cofferer to Edward IV., attainted 1483, and
restored to blood 1485," married ; or if he can give
me any information regarding the parentage of
" Mr. Poole, of com. Stafford," whose daughter
Catherine Ellen (or Rachel de la Pole?) is supposed
to have married, about 1547, Thomas Ryther, of
Muckleston, co. Stafford, son of the above Thomas
Ryther, the " Sewer and Cofferer " ?
WM. JACKSON PIQOTT.
Dundrum, co. Down.
LANTHORN (8th S. xi. 163).— I find that Cooper
(1565), Baret (1580), and Minsheu (1627) all have
lanterne, as in Chaucer. The spelling lanthorne,
as in Shakespeare, obviously arose from a notion
that it had something to do with horn. The notion
that it had something to do with lamp was surely
a later refinement.
I do not see how we are to determine how much
control Bacon had over his printer's spelling. I
should have thought that he was quite capable
of taking up a popular etymology. The notion of
expecting evidence in support of etymology is quite
modern, nor am I aware that it is, even yet, firmly
established. WALTER W. SKEAT.
JESSICA (8th S. x. 436). — The following extracts
may be of interest to MR. HOOPER. I very much
regret I omitted the references when jotting them
in my note-book : —
"Jessica, in the German and English translations
Isca, Hebrew Jiscah, signifies a spy or looker out.
which throws a remarkable light on Shylock's warning."
" According to a valuable communication of Professor
Heyd, of the Royal Library at Stuttgard, the English
translation of the Bible by Th. Matthewe (printed by
Th. Raynalde et Will Hyll 1549) as well as that printed
by Thomas Petyt in 1551 read Jesca, which may at the
same time serve as a hint for determining which trans-
lation of the Bible Shakespeare made use of. The old
Italian translation of the Bible read Selah (or Sale) and
Ischa, Isca or Jese. The Bible of L. A. Giunti, 1545,
has Jescha, the Biblia Volgare of 1553 (Venetia. Aurel
Pincio) and of 1566 (Venet. Andi. Muschio) have
Jesche; in the Vulgate Sale and Jescba. Tubal and
Dhus are taken from Genesis x. 2 and 6 without any
alteration of name."
W. A. HENDERSON.
Dublin.
OLNET (8th S. xi. 5, 135).— We are told at the
latter reference that " the present local pronuncia-
iion......is Oney, as rhyming perfectly with pony"
This is a somewhat misleading statement, and I
rery much deprecate its going forth in the pages
N. & Q.' as the correct pronunciation — I mean
•hat of educated persons — and being adopted as
inch by strangers. It is well known that many
names have a different sound when spoken by the
^lettered, or "in the vulgar tongue," from that
»hich one hears in polite society ; and this is an
instance.
have heard three pronunciations of the name
)lney. 1. Strangers who have never lived in
the neighbourhood, but take their idea of its sound
from the look of the word, frequently call it Olney
(0 as in odd). 2. The illiterate, who are apt to
clip their words, slur over the I, and call it Oney
(long 0). So, also, Ravenstone becomes Rans'n;
Lavendon, Liindon ; and in Lincolnshire Saltfleetby
is vulgarly known as Solaby. 3. The middle
and upper classes, and all who have any pretensions
to education, call it Olney (01 as in pole) and they
would characterize Oney as a vulgarism.
I may mention, as my excuse for writing on this
subject, that I have been more or less closely con-
nected with Olney for nearly forty years. I was
for five years curate of the parish, and have paid
frequent visits to it and maintained intercourse
with many of its inhabitants since I ceased to
reside there.
I think W. I. R. V. must have misunderstood
Mr. T. Wright. The latter could not mean that
Oney is the pronunciation which he himself uses
and considers correct, but that it is the common
rendering of the lower orders. E. S. W.
Winterton, Doncaster.
Subsequently to my previous reply, Mr. T.
Wright, of Olney, Bucks, author of ' The Life of
William Cowper,' has further informed me that
" Olney never rhymed noney (honey). It was
Cowper's playfulness. He twisted noney to make
it rhyme Olney." By this he means that Olney
was and is locally pronounced as if written O'ney,
rhyming perfectly with pony, and that as regards
" noney " in my quotation, the poet intended the
accent to be placed (by poetic license) on the no,
instead of on the none. W. I. R. V.
' ENGLAND, THE VIRGIN MART'S DOWER (8th S.
xi. 148). — M. GAIDOZ should consult Father
Bridgett's ' Our Lady's Dowry,' third edition,
London, Burns & Oates. The preface deals espe-
cially with the origin of the above title, which
seems to date from the reign of Richard II.
JOHN HOBSON MATTHEWS.
Town Hall, Cardiff.
Your correspondent will find all he wants in
' Our Lady's Dowry,' by the Rev. T. E. Bridgett,
published, I think, in 1874 or 1875 by Burns, Oates
& Co. J« B. S.
Manchester.
THE SUFFIX "WELL" IN PLACE-NAMES (8th S.
ix. 345, 451 ; x. 17, 99, 220).— Another probable
rendering of this suffix appears to have escaped
the notice of your correspondents. There is in
the parish of East Budleigb, in this county, a small
sub-manor known as Tidwell, a name that cannot
be traced further back than the early part of the
seventeenth century. The three contemporary
historians of Devon— Pole, Westcote, and Risdon—
made their collections at that period, and in the
works of the latter two Tidwell is given, but in
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that of Pole, believed to be of a somewhat earlier
date, the place-name is noted as Todwell or Tud-
well. The details of a general rate collected in
the parish in 1600 appears thus in a MS.
commonplace book, preserved in the parish chest :
"Gabryell St. Clere of Todwell Esq. paid vijs."
Risdon gives the following explanation of the term :
"Tidwell the ponds here are mayntayned by
springs which seeme continually to walme and boyle
vpp, somwhat like that wonderfull well of the Peake in
Darbisbeire wch ebbeth and floweth by iust tydes, and
hath giuen name to Tideswell a market towne of noe
small account."
Transcribed from one of Risdon's MSS. in my
possession.
The Rev. R. Polwhele, in his * History of
Devonshire,' published in 1793, affirms : ''Its
etymon is generally referred to a well on this
estate, which ebbs and flows like the tide. Tidwell
had lords so named. The first, I find, was
Jordanus de Tidwella" (ii. 218). This is accepted
by Dr. Oliver as the explanation of Toddewili in a
deed of the thirteenth century, quoted in extenso
in his *Monasticon Dicec. Exon.' (1846), 252, in
these words : " Now Tidwell, i. e., Tide- well." In
other deeds of the same century printed in his
work these variants are contained : Todewil, Todd-
ville, Todevil, Tudewille, Toudevil, Toudeville, but
never Tidwella. Does not a consideration of these
several points lead to the conclusion that the
original name was Todville, the vili or dwelling
of Tod ; and that ville has been gradually trans-
formed into well ? T. N. BRUSHFIELD, M.D.
Salterton, Devon.
" SONES CARNALL " (8«> S. xi. 9).— The ' New
English Dictionary,' under "Carnal," "Carnall,"
says : —
41 Ad. L. carnal-is, fleshly (in Tertullian and other
Christian writers), and frequent in mod. L. as an attribute
of relationship, as frater or soror carnalis, brother or
sister by blood, in which use it appears in English in
15th c."
Under 2 it gives examples from 1450 to 1598 of
this use, including " His wyf, his chyldren, &
his frendes carnall " (Caxton, ' How to Die,' 8) ;
" Christ our Sauiour His carnall mother benignly
did honour." From this it is apparent " sones
carnall " means sons according to the flesh,
although it gives no example o 3'this usage.
D. M. R.
SCOTTISH CLERICAL DRESS (8th S. ix. 245, 358 ;
x. 164, 319; xi. 115). — In answer to MR. BLACK,
re authority for clerical dress, the full title is
' Reminiscences of a CUchnacuddin Nonagenarian,'
by John Maclean, published in 1 842.
C. N. MclNTYRE NORTH.
STATISTICS OF IMPOSTURE (8th S. xi. 28). —
Statistics of imposture are spoken of by T. Carlyle
in 'Sartor Resartus,' book ii. chap, in., "Peda-
" J. C. MAXTON.
MODERN JACOBITE MOVEMENT (8th S. xi. 189).
— 'The Legitimist Kalendar for 1895,' edited by
Marquis de Ruvigny and Raineval, and published
by Messrs. Henry & Co., of St. Martin's Lane, will
give P. every possible information on the subject.
It contains pedigrees, historical documents, all
the legitimist royal houses in the world, legitimist
and Jacobite societies past and present, &c. ; in
fact, some fifty-three articles, besides the kalendar
and eight genealogical tables.
F. L. MAWDESLET.
See Athenceum for 27 July, 1895, p. 129, and
<N. &Q,'8thS. viii. 100. H. T.
COMPETITOR FOR LONGEST REIGN (8th S. xi.
146). — Where, when, and over what did James III.
reign? ST. SWITHIN.
NOTES ON BOOKS, &c.
Bibliographica. Part XII. (Kegan Paul & Co.)
THE concluding portion of this, the most interesting and
valuable bibliographical periodical that England has yet
produced, has now appeared. Faithful to their promise,
the publishers have terminated it at the end of the third
volume. Matter sufficient for another part had been
promised, and there was no falling off either in the
worth of the supply or in the interest of the public. The
work, however, was announced as a " novel departure,"
and the opening promise has been rigorously carried out.
As no preface was furnished, the editor has ventured
on an epilogue, consisting principally of well-merited
praise of the contributors and explanations of the cir-
cumstances attendant on the production. For the rest,
the concluding part supplies an index to the three
volumes as well as the title and preliminary matter to
the last. Four articles, all important, constitute the
bulk of the contents. Most interesting to us personally
is the account, by Mr. R. E. Graves, of that splendid
find known as ' The I sham Books.' Sir E. Maunde
Thompson has a richly illustrated article 'On a Manu-
script of the Biblia Pauperum.' Mr. Andrew Lang
deals with 'Late Jacobite Tracts,' which he has used in
his 'Pickle the Spy,' and Mr. A. \V. Pollard writes on
'The Illustrations in French Books of Hours.' A few
important addenda make up a book which has already
commended itself warmly to the bibliophile.
The Book-Plate Annual and Armorial Year-Book, 1897.
By John Leighton, F.S.A. (A. & C. Black.)
MR. LEIGHTON furnishes the fourth issue of his 'Book-
Plate Annual,' written and illustrated by himself. Like
the previous numbers, it is quaint and fantastic, giving
us finely designed "achievements" for Lord Leighton
and Sir John Millais, an imaginary coat for Du Maurier,
and a whimsical design for Mrs. Grundy ! It contains a
large amount, however, of amusing and interesting
matter, and may be commended to others besides the
followers of the late and vigorous mania of book-plate
collecting.
The Clergy Directory and Parish Guide for 1897.
(Phillips.)
THIS shapeliest and most convenient and useful of Clergy
Directories makes its annual appearance. It is con-
stantly augmenting in dimensions, and is now not far
J short of a thousand pages. We have used the work
a xi. MAR. is,
NOTES AND QUERIES,
219
constantly for year?, and certify to its fulfilling every
requirement. Its claims are too well known to call for
description. Special features in it, however, are the
Diocesan and Cathedral Establishments, with the mem-
bers of the two Convocations, a list of societies connected
with the National Church, and a list of graveyards
closed during 1896 or about to be closed.
A Directory of Titled Persons for the Year 1897.
(Whitaker & Sons.)
THIS cheap and useful little volume is intended as a
supplement to Whitaker's famous Almanack, and claims
to supply a complete peerage for half-a-crown, or a
fourth of the cost at which such a production has
hitherto been obtainable. That a work issued by Mr.
Whitaker will be up to date is a matter of certainty.
Reference shows us that the successor to Sir Baldwyn
Leigh ton, Bart., whose death took place last month, is
duly mentioned.
Journal of the Ex-Lions Society. (A. & C. Black.)
THE March number of this popular and valuable work
gives a report of the proceedings at the latest meeting
of the Council. So prosperous are the affairs of the
Society that a restriction of numbers and a doubling to
new members of subscription are imminent. There are
those who should profit by this intimation. Additions
to Mr. Walter Hamilton's dated list are completed, and
there is a paper on 'Dutch Book-plates.' As usual,
many interesting designs are reproduced.
A NOVEL and notable feature in our leading reviews
is their growing cosmopolitanism. Men of various
nationalities now write in them, and problem?, Eastern
and other, are discussed by those who are most closely
interested in them, and should be best informed concern-
ing them. To the Fortnightly, accordingly, a " Turkish
Patriot" — who, for sufficiently obvious reason?, hides
his name— sends 'A Study of Turkish Finance,' and
Dr. Sun Yat Sen ' China's Present and Future.' With
neither of these subjects can we concern ourselves.
Most of the literary articles in the present number are
on themes more or less controversial. Ouida, while
praising the style, often admirable, and * The Genius of
d'Annunzio,' is at no pains to disguise his coarseness and
obscenities any more than the terrible gloom of his
work, scarcely less apparent in that of Joris Earl
Huysmans, concerning whom M. Gabriel Mourey writes
in a similar strain. With the books of the earlier
writer we have no familiarity ; the ' A Rebours ' of the
other we have read with the intense dislike justified, as
we hold, by a work of which M. Mourey can say that it
is " the record of frenzied spiritualism, spiritualism far
overstepping the bounds of sanity, the fullest and most
terrible monograph on the crowning disease of these fm
de siecle days, the poem of nevroaity." Not the strongest
thing that is said is this, and not the strongest that is
deserved. After reading of these things it is pleasant
to turn to Mr. J. C. Bailey's agreeable if somewhat
belated paper on ' Gibbon the Man.' Mr. S. H. Jeyes,
in ' Our Gentlemanly Failures,' shows that the demand
for public school and university men once existing is no
longer apparent. — Foreign contributions are represented
in the Nineteenth Century by papers on ' The Cretan
Question,' by M. Francis de Pressense (foreign editor of
Le Temps), and on ' England's Advance North of Orange
River,' by Herr Melius de Villiers (Chief Justice of the
Orange Free State). Eminently political are these con-
tributions, as are also Mr. Swinburne's eloquent verses
For Greece and Crete.' The most ambitious literary
essay in the number is Mr. Charles Whibley's ' Limits of
Biography.' With the main idea of this we are in
accord; but the whole is written with lees taste and
judgment than the author generally displays. Concern*
ing the story of Musset's life when in Venice, which has
aeen again raked up, he declares that the student of
iterature says, " I tell you be was in love with George
Sand, and there's an end of it." An end of what ? Of
Musset's genius? What student of literature is be who
says aught of the kind concerning the author of ' Le
Chandelier ' and ' On ne Badine pas '1 The publication of
the records of Dr. Pagollo is regrettable and worse.
Musset and Sand, however, are not dead, any more than
Byron. A very interesting and suggestive paper is that
of Prof. Mahaffy 'About Alexandria,' and Mr. Middle-
ton's contribution on ' Deliberate Deception in Ancient
Buildings ' is both curious and interesting. With Mr.
Hankin's ( Sins of St. Lubbock ' we are in full accord,
and we have reasons other than he advances for wishing
to see a remedy to the misdeeds of this latest addition to
the calendar of saints. ' How Poor Ladies Live ' and
'Fighting the Famine in India' are papers that give us
pause. — To the New Review Mr. Francis Watt sends an
essay, historical, legal, and antiquarian, on ' The Border
Law.' Much information new to the average " Southron "
and dear to the student of ballad lore ia pleasantly
reported. See, for instance, the account of the rescue
by the Duke of Buccleuch of Kinmont Willie, or the
origin of the phrase, indicative of treachery, " To take
Hector's cloak." Mr. Arthur Morrison vindicates him-
self at some length from the charge brought against him
by Dr. Traill of being a " realist." " What is a realist ?"
he asks. Whether he himself is or is not a realist is no
concern of hi?, but the concern, he holds, if it be any-
body's, "of the tabulators and the watersifter." Mr.
C. F. Keary's curious ' Phantasies ' are continued. — The
Century opens with two admirably characteristic por-
traits of President McKinley and one, not less excellent,
of ex-President Cleveland. Following these comes a
series of pictures of proceedings at the White House.
The new Congressional Library is the subject of two
papers, one by Mr. Spofford, the librarian, upon the new
building and upon the special features of the library; a
second, by Mr. Coffin, upon the decorations, which are
very striking. The library is richest in the fields of
jurisprudence, political science, American and British
history, and the books known as Americana ; poorest in
foreign language?, classics, philology, and Oriental
languages. ' Nelson at Trafalgar ' is a brilliant and
sympathetic picture of the greatest of sea fights, by
Capt. Mahan. Part V. of 'Campaigning with Grant'
also appears. — Scribner's is much less American than its
rival. Its frontispiece presents the crossing of swords
between Esmond and the prince, from Thackeray's great
novel. Then comes ' The Banderium of Hungary,' the
meeting at Buda-Pesth of the nobles of Hungary to
swear allegiance to the Crown. Under the title of ' The
Master of the Lithograph : J. McNeill Whistler ' is an
article by Mrs. Elizabeth Robins Pennell, with repro-
ductions of many of the artist's designs. Very exquisite
some of these are. ' London : as seen by C. D. Gibson ' is,
as we hoped would be the case, continued. Mr. Weguelin
sends a pretty illustration of ' Cupid stung by the Bee,f
and Mr. W. D. Howells begins ' The Story of a Play.'-
In a brilliant number of the Pall Mail ' Glamis Castle '
is depicted by Lady Glamis. The illustrations to this
include reproductions of many of the pictures. Mr.
Brewer presents 'A Revival of Old London Bridge,'
showing the edifice as in the time of Henry VIII. Among
the views is one of Nonsuch House about 1630. Some
spirited designs illustrate 'The Bankside, Southwark.'
Mr. Franklin K. Young begins papers on ' The Major
Tactics of Chess.' The designs generally are creditable
to English art.— To Temple Bar Mr. Frederick Dixon
contributes a dramatic account of ' The Battle of Val,'
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when the Duke of Cumberland, with a mixed army, was
worsted by Marshal Saxe. Defeat as it was, this little-
known engagement waa wholly creditable to English
valour. ' Horace Walpole and St. Hannah ' is readable,
the canonized Hannah being, of course, Hannah More.
' The Abbe Scarron ' gives the fine story of Scarron|s
death-bed. A needlessly depressive account of Dijon is
supplied under the title of ' The Capital of Burgundy.'
After all, it does not always rain in Dijon, as in Man-
chester.—In Macmillan's there is an account, very
seasonable in its appearance, of ' Through the Swamps
to Benin.' ' The Story of Cressida' has a pleasant lite-
rary flavour and is well told. Following this comes an
account of ' The Sicilian Peasant,' which, in turn, is
followed by « Pantomime in Paris.' We are somewhat
puzzled by the last. The writer knows something con-
cerning the Theatre des Funambules, yet he persistently
spells as Deburau a name which in France was written
Debureau. Is Deburau a Bohemian form ] Debureau was
a Bohemian by birth.— To the Cornhill Mr. Sidney Lee
contributes an able and important account of ' The Death
of Queen Elizabeth.' The Bishop of London writes on
« Picturesqueness in History,' and holds that " so far as
history is picturesque in this [ordinary] sense, it is not
really history." ' Pages from a Private Diary ' is con-
tinued, and remains interesting, but very "superior."
' Two African Days' Entertainments ' is very amusing. —
The Gentleman's has an eloquent and necessary pleading
on behalf of birds by a writer assuming the name of
" Robin Birdilove." Dr. Yorke Davies gives " bold adver-
tisement" to Bexhill-on-Sea. Mr. Fox writes on Sir
Cloudesley Shovel, and Mr. Addlesbam on Walter Pater.
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LONDON, SATURDAY, MARCH 20, 1897.
CONTENTS.— N° 273.
NOTES :— Sovereigns of England, 221— Gillman Family, 222
— Shakspeariana, 223 — Newspaper Archaeology — An Eng-
lishman's Opinion of Scotland in 1360, 224 — Coronation of
James I. — An Altar-piece — Harsnett — George Fennell
Robson — London Topography — ' History of Pickwick ' —
Bull and Bear Medal, 225 — French Invasion of Fishguard
- Copying Machine — Russian Folk-lore — " Dadle " —
Criminal Family—" Whippity Scoorie" — Daily Mass, 226.
QUERIES.— "Brang"— R. White— MS. Wanted— Poisoned
Arrows— Stag-horn — " The Fire of Destiny "—Trials at
Bar—" An old parliamentary hand " — " Jack o' the Clock,"
227 — B. R. Faulkner — Saltham — Morgan — Hartigan —
J. E. Woolford— Paul of Fossombrone— Source of Quota-
tion—Hanwell Church, 228— "Bob"=an Insect — Crests
and Badges, 229.
REPLIES :— St. Patrick's Purgatory, 229— Incident in Sicily
- Burns's Friend Nicol — Fauntleroy, 231 — Mediaeval
Accounts— Hayne— Folk-lore of Filatures — Rev. T. L. Soley
—Parsley — Chaworth— R. Perreau, 232 — Henrietta Maria-
Army Lists— Ghost-Names. 233— The Latin Litany — In-
scription—The Caul — Holy Water in the Anglican Church,
234— Chinese Folk-lore— " Lazy Lawrence" — Haberdasher
-"Feer and Flet" - Cassiter Street, Bodmin— Stafford
O'Brian and D. Ricketson, 235— " Invultation "— ' Mally
Lee '— Landguard Fort, 236— " Scot "—Letter from Lady
Harvey, 237— The Lapwing— Miracle Play— G. Morland,
Senior — John Andre, 238 — Sir Michael Costa— Jerrold'g
Dramatic Works — Gambardella, 239.
NOTES ON BOOKS :— English Dialect Soiety's Publica-
tions — Feltoe's ' Sacramentarium Leonianum '—James's
' Letters relating to the Isle of Wight '—Thorpe's ' Hidden
Lives of Shakespeare and Bacon.'
Notices to Correspondents.
SOVEREIGNS OF ENGLAND, DE JURE
AS WELL AS DE FACTO.
From the death of the Conqueror to the year
1688 the occupants of the English throne suc-
ceeded one another as being more or less William's
heirs and representatives. These (including Lady
Jane Dudley) were twenty-seven in number, seven-
teen of whom were undoubtedly sovereigns de jure
as well as de facto.
Macaulay observes*: "William Rufus, Henry I.,
Stephen, John, Henry IV., Henry V., Henry VI.,
Richard III., and Henry VII. had all reigned in
defiance of the strict rule of descent."
The crown of England was bequeathed to Wil-
liam Rufus by his father, who left the dukedom of
Normandy to his eldest son Robert. The Red
King thus had a legal claim to the throne, which
his younger brother Henry could not boast ; but
Elenry, before he died, became, by the death of his
brother Robert without surviving issue, the heir
f the Conqueror, and therefore possessed a good
title to the tbrone.t Henry named as his suc-
cessor his daughter and only surviving legitimate
child, the Empress Maud. Stephen's claim was
founded upon the consent of the clergy and people
' History of England,' vol. i. p. 71.
f Nicolas, ' Historic Peerage of England,' p. 2.
of the realm. He was not even the eldest son of
his mother Adela, the sister of King Henry I., nor
could he pretend to be the nearest heir male of
that king, even if he had been her eldest son, as
(setting aside the existence of the Earl of Warren
and Surrey, the son of Gundreda, Adela's elder
sister) the young Henry Fitz Empress, who
eventually succeeded as Henry II., was " nearer
to the right stem," as Sand ford observes, than any
other at the time of King Henry's death. Re-
garded from every point of view, therefore, it is
quite clear that Stephen reigned " in defiance of
the strict rule of descent.''
From our modern standpoint, young Arthur,
Duke of Bretagne, appears the undoubted heir of
King Richard I., but it is very far from certain
that he was so considered even by impartial judges
at the time. Prince John, as the brother of the
deceased sovereign, was certainly nearer of kin
than Arthur, who was his nephew, and in Saxon
times precedents were not wanting for a brother
succeeding a brother who had left sons even, when
these sons were of tender age. John's succession,
however disputed, was confirmed by the election
of his subjects, and upon his death, as Courthope
observes,* Henry III. succeeded as a matter of
course, " although, Eleanor, the Damsel of Brittany
and heir of William the Conqueror, being yet
alive, his title was probably considered to have
been confirmed by the act of coronation. Upon
Eleanor's death in 1241, King Henry III. became
the representative of the Conqueror.
From Henry III. to Richard II. the succession
to the crown followed the regular course, and was
undisputed. Although there can be no question
as to the usurpation by Henry of Bolingbroke of
the regal authority in the lifetime of King Richard,
it is by no means so clear that, upon that monarch's
death without issue, Henry did not become the
legitimate heir. Heir male he certainly was, and
the right of females to the succession was so little
understood, that a century later the partisans of
the House of York— whose claim was based upon
female descent — gave way when it became a ques-
tion of preferring the daughter of Edward IV. and
sister of Edward V. to Henry Tudor. And be it
remembered that Henry's only shadow of claim
lay through his mother, who was alive when he
was made king and even outlived him. To Eliza-
beth Plantagenet, the heiress and representative of
the Conqueror, was assigned the rank of queen
consort only.
Macaulay goes on to observe : " A grave doubt
hung over the legitimacy both of Mary and of
Elizabeth (the daughters of Henry VIII.). It was
impossible that both Catherine of Aragon and
Anne Boleyn could have been lawfully married (to
King Henry), and the highest authority in the
* 4 Historic Peerage, p. 2.
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realm had pronounced that neither was so."
Henry
"obtained an Act of Parliament giving him power
to leave the crown by will, and actually made a will,
to the prejudice of the royal family of Scotland. Ed-
ward VI., unauthorized by Parliament, assumed a similar
power, with the full approbation of the most eminent
Reformers. Elizabeth, conscious that her own title was
open to grave objection, and unwilling to admit even a
reversionary right in her rival and enemy the Queen of
Scots, induced the Parliament to pass a law enacting
that whoever should deny the competency of the reign-
ing sovereign, with the assent of the estates of the realm,
to alter the succession, should suffer death as a traitor."
Macaulay then proceeds to compare the situation
of James I. with that of Elizabeth, and says he
was the "undoubted heir of William the Con-
queror and of Egbert." James was certainly the
heir general and representative of the Conqueror
(whether he ia considered as succeeding his mother
in that capacity, or Elizabeth), but heir in blood
of Egbert, or of any of the Saxon kings, he cer-
tainly was not, as I have shown in a former paper.*
The following is a sketch of what the succession
would have been upon the English throne, from
William Eufus to James II., if our modern ideas
upon the subject of hereditary right had prevailed :
Robert, Henry I., Matilda, Henry IL, Richard I.,
Arthur,t Eleanor,^ Henry III., Edward I., Ed-
ward II., Edward III., Richard II., Edmund,§
Richard III..|| Edward IV., Edward V., Eliza-
beth I., Henry IV.,T Edward VI., Mary I.,
Elizabeth II,,** James I., Charles I., Charles II.,
* ' N. & Q.,' 8th S. viii. 383.
f Duke of Bretagne, nephew of Richard I., and bis
heir male as son and heir of his next brother Geoffrey.
J The " Damsel of Bretagne," sister and heir of
Arthur.
§ Earl of March, heir general and representative of
Edward III. upon the death of Richard II., being great-
grandson of Lionel, Duke of Clarence, the elder brother
of John of Gaunt, Duke of Lancaster, father of King
Henry IV.
|| Duke of York, nephew and heir of Edmund, Earl of
March.
^1 Otherwise King Henry VIII., son and heir of
Henry VII. and his queen Elizabeth of York, who, as
sister and heir of King Edward V., would have suc-
ceeded him on the throne as queen regnant, according
to modern ideas.
** On the death of Queen Mary I. opinion became
divided as to who was her lawful heir and successor. Some
maintained that her sister Elizabeth (who actually suc-
ceeded her) was the lawful sovereign, and others insisted
that Mary, Queen of Scots, as representative of Margaret
Tudor, the elder sister of Henry VIIL, was the rightful
heir to the throne. The whole question turned upon the
legitimacy of Elizabeth, which had been affirmed and
disallowed more than once by Parliament. The first
act of Mary was to establish her own legitimacy (also
disputed), and by this very act the illegitimacy of Eliza-
beth was indirectly again affirmed, and Elizabeth herself
prevented from taking the like step with regard to her
own mother's marriage, so that, according to the statutes
recited, she remains illegitimate to this day ('Historic
Peerage,' p, 5).
James II. This would have made the number of
sovereigns between William Rufus and William
and Mary exactly twenty-five, the same number
as actually occurred, if we do not reckon the nine
days' queen Lady Jane Dudley.
Instead of eight Henries, we should only have
had four. The Edwards and Richards would have
been the same in number, although the third
Richard would have been the father instead of the
son. We should have had no King John ; there
would have been Kings Robert, Arthur, and Ed-
mund ; and instead of two queens regnant before
James I. we should have had five !
H. MURRAY LANE, Chester Herald.
GILLMAN OR GILMAN FAMILY.
A very curious instance of " fallacy of references "
occurs in * Searches into the History of the Gillman
or Gilman Family,1 by Alexander W. Gillman
(Stock). The lapse, though in a cardinal point in
the history, was not due, I am quite sure, to any
intentional omission on the author's part, but may
have occurred through a copyist of one page of the
authorities not noticing a certain other one.
The chief point in the book is the (supposed)
Welsh origin of the family ; and the author claims
to have established this in the case of the " Gill-
mans of Ireland," and exhibits for them a pedigree
reaching from a Cymric kinglet of A.D. circ. 300.
But I fear that the Irish Gillmans must forego the
glory (?) of this ancestry BO made out for them, the
reason being that the pedigree is contradicted by
the authorities cited to prove it (Harleian MS.
No. 1969, and Lewys Dwnn, ' Visitation of Wales,'
1588).
It all happens this way. The copyist took from
these excellent (Cymrically speaking) authorities
a pedigree of the Glynns, coming down to Richard
ab Robert ab Meredyth (a Glynn, and of the
Glynns in the sixteenth century), who married
Catherine, a daughter of William ab Jenkin, and
had issue. This Richard is identified (without a
shadow of proof) with a Richard father of John
Gilmyn, the known ancestor of the Irish family, an
official in the Courts of Hen. VII., Hen. VIIL,
and Queen Mary ; and John is shown as sole issue
of Richard Glynn and Catherine ; and Richard is
made to desert Glynnllivon, change his name, and
take service under Hen. VIII. at sixpence per
diem.
But, unhappily for these assumptions, the autho-
rities on other pages (Dwnn, vol. ii. p. 149, Harl.
MS., p. 468) give the true issue of Richard and
Catherine, namely, two sons, named William and
Thomas Glynn (and no John at all), and several
daughters. The sons are of the Nantlle and Plas
Newydd Glynns. Moreover, Richard Glynn's
eldest son is shown as born in 1520 and living in
1581, and could have no brotherhood with Johc
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
223
Gilmyn, born about 1475 ; and Richard is shown
as having died in 1539, and could not, therefore, be
identical with the Richard of sixpence a day in
Henry's Court, who died in 1558. The actual fact
is that nothing whatever is known, beyond the
mere Christian name, of Richard the father of
John Gilmyn, and the Gillmans of Ireland must
at present remain content with their John, as
recorded by the English Heralds, of Troyle in
Anglesey.
I am very sorry to have to point out this error ;
but in the interests of truth and genuine research
it is better that the family should not by silence
claim an ancestry known to be untrue. The
author's researches are of vast extent, and must
have required the employment of many agents to
assist ; but in his preface he acknowledges his
book to be only a commencement, to be continued
and corrected hereafter.
To assist in this, I venture to indicate a certain
confusion inadvertently introduced in regard to a
branch of the family. In his preface the author
says that its history was till recently almost
entirely unknown ; this he probably wrote before
his attention was called to the pedigree compiled
by Sir Wm. Betham, the famous Ulster King of
Arms, in A.D. 1809, and its continuation to the
year 1890 by Sir Bernard Burke. He had pre-
viously drawn his information from some one who
had not told him of Betham's work ; but the
author very candidly inserted Betham's compilation
in his work on being duly informed of it. Unfor-
tunately, however, the chapters on the Irish
Gillmans were already in print and paged before
the author gained that information ; and the result
is that the unassailable pedigree of Betham and
Burke is followed by three others which contradict
it ! It is to be hoped that this point will be more
fully investigated by the continuer and corrector of
this work, who will, I trust, be the author, Mr.
A. W. Gillman himself.
HERBERT WEBB GILLMAN.
Clonteadmore, Coachford, co. Cork.
SHAKSPEARIANA.
THE SONNETS : THE TWO OBELI IN THE GLOBE
EDITION (8th S. x. 450). — Is there sufficient diffi-
culty in Sonnet LX. as it stands to warrant the
change proposed by MR. SPENCE ? The "his"
in 1. 14 does not necessarily refer to " times " in
1. 13 ; it may refer, and probably does refer, to
' Time " in 1. 9. To understand 1, 13 we have but
to interpret " hope" as in ' 1 Hen, IV.,' I. ii. —
By how much better than my word I am,
By so much shall I falsify men's hopes,
and the meaning is clear: "Times in hope" —
times expected, times to come. There are other
instances of this use of the word hope in the sense
of expectation, for references to which see Nares
The change from "Time" to "times" seems to
me very characteristic of Shakspeare.
Is it the fact that in Sonnet CXLVf. we have to
deal with "a lacuna left by Shakspeare himself? "
The repetition of " my sinful earth " in 1. 2 may
conceivably have been a printer's blunder. Malone's
reading, "Fool'd by," or Palgrave's, "Foil'd by,"
will either of them serve as well as "Spoiled by."
Palgrave's suggestion is perhaps the better.
C. C. B.
•TAMING OF THE SHREW,' INDUCTION i. 63-5 (8th
S. x. 22, 450). — Omissions of pronouns are as thick
as blackberries in Shakespeare, and quite common
still, both in speaking and in writing. Had there
been nothing more than this in the passage before
us, those distinguished Shakespearian scholars the
editors of the "Globe " would never have thought it
worth their while to mark the line with an obelus,
indicative of an unsolved difficulty.
In my former note (8th S. x. 22) I said that
" To remove the supposed difficulty all that is
necessary is to emphasize the ' is,' in opposition to
the ' hath been ' preceding." I now go further,
and say that the verse obliges us to emphasize both
the "hath " and the uis," and that the passage is
thus made to explain itself. " Persuade him that
he hath been lunatic " is prose ; " Persuade him
that he hath been lunatic " is verse. " And when
he says he is, say that he dreams " is prose ; " And
when he says he is, say that he dreams " is verse.
B. C. says, " It cannot be that the Lord expects
Sly to believe himself lunatic." Look at what
precedes : —
Sec. Hun. It would seem strange unto him when he
waked.
Lord, Even as a flattering dream or worthless fancy.
I said no more when I said, " What more natural
than that poor Sly, awakening out of his drunken
sleep, and finding himself in the midst of such un-
wonted surroundings, should imagine that he was
the subject of delusion, with only sanity enough to
prevent him from altogether mistaking illusion
for reality ? " When the servants told him that he
had been lunatic, which he knew quite well he had
never been, what more natural than that, half
jocularly, half seriously, he should echo the word,
as much as to say, " You say I ham been lunatico.
Upon my word, with all these strange sights around
me, I am inclined to think I am lunatic, for the
first time, now " ?
If B. O.'s view of the passage were correct,
" who " would have been of far too great import-
ance to admit of omission.
R. M. SPENCE, M.A.
Manse of Arbuthnott, N.B.
' HAMLET,' I. iv. 36 (8th S. x. 23, 70).— MR.
R. M. SPENCE may like to know that "fall," in the
sense of " let fall," is not more than obsolescent
in the neighbourhood of York : " We fell it in the
224
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dirt " was said of an unfortunate loaf of bread by
some children who were carrying it from the shop
ST. SWITHIN.
'CYMBELINE,' IV. ii. 333-4.—
To them the legions garrison'd in Gallia,
After your will, have cross'd the sea.
Why will all the editions, down to the latest
edition of the Cambridge Shakespeare, if I can
trust the " Temple " edition, which professes to
reproduce its text, persist in perpetuating the
manifest blunder of the First Folio by inserting
in the text, to the destruction of the sense, the two
words " To them," which evidently belong to the
directions for the stage ? Kelegate them to their
proper place, reading the directions thus, "Enter
Lucius, a Captain, and other Officers, and a Sooth-
sayer to them"', and the disburdened text, in per-
fect verse and perfect sense, as it ought, reads thus :
The legions garrison'd in Gallia,
After your will, have cross'd the sea,
I pointed this out in 'N. & Q.' so long ago as
31 Jan., I860 (6th S. i. 92) ; but it seems hopeless
and thankless work to direct attention to any error,
when so glaring a one as this, though pointed out,
is doggedly retained. I shall be surprised if any
one has the fortitude to defend the present text.
R. M. SPENCE, M.A.
Manse of Arbuthnott, N.B.
' HAMLET,' I. i. —
Some say, that ever 'gainst that season comes,
Wherein our Saviour's birth is celebrated,
The bird of dawning singeth all night long.
Shakespeare evidently alludes to some tradition or
superstition ; but what its fons et origo ? And
surely the " bird of dawning " cannot be the cock,
whose tantalizing vocal efforts can scarcely be
called singing. Which then ? J. B. S.
Manchester.
NEWSPAPER ARCHAEOLOGY. — It was satisfactory
to learn from the Times of 19 February that the
benchers of Gray's Inn had resolved to follow up
the recent renovation of their chapel by removing
" the disfiguring stucco from the exterior of their
fine old hall," and restoring it, as nearly as pos-
sible, to its state when originally erected. Some
further information was followed by the statement
that
"the accounts connected with the erection of the hall,
written by Sir Gilbert G. Knight, the then treasurer,
are still preserved in the library, and they show that the
cost was 863J. 10s. 8d."
This was a little puzzling, as no treasurer of the
name of Knight, boasting in the days of Elizabeth
of a double Christian name, was known in the
records of the Inn ; but a little reflection showed
that it was a mistake on the part of the para-
graphist for Sir Gilbert Gerard, Knight, a dis-
tinguished lawyer, who was made Attorney-
General in 1559, and Master of the Rolls in 1581,
and was ancestor of the Earl of Macclesfield, after
whom the Gerard Street of Dryden was named.
The mistake was easily accounted for. The writer
had "lifted" his paragraph from Douthwaite's
'Gray's Inn,' p. Ill, in which the treasurer's
name is written, in the comma-less fashion
peculiar to lawyers, " Sir Gilbert Gerard Knight,"
and, having no exact knowledge of the subject, he
had taken the title for a surname. The Daily
Telegraph of the same date " went one better."
It informed its readers that the "unsightly
stucco " was to be removed from the interior of
the hall, and finished up by stating that the
removal of the disfigurement had been recom-
mended "with much vigour by Sylvanus Urbicus
nearly a century ago." It is presumed that refer-
ence is made to a letter which appeared iu the
Gentleman's Magazine for 1826, vol. xcvi. part ii.
p. 109, and which is quoted by Douthwaite,
p. 113. These specimens of inaccuracy demon-
strate the risk that is run in transferring to the
immortal columns of ' N. & Q. the ephemeral
paragraphs of the daily newspaper without a care-
ful verification of the "facts" they may contain.
W. F. PRIDEAUX.
Kingsland, Shrewsbury.
AN ENGLISHMAN'S OPINION OP SCOTLAND IN
1360. — Mr. Stirling, of Keir, has furnished me
with the following extract from a French MS. in
his possession, date c. 1370-80, entitled " Le livre
des proprietez des choses, translate de latin en
frangois a la requeste de tres noble y puissant
prince le roy Charles le Quint."
The author of the original was Bartholomew
Glanvil, an Englishman, and therefore, as the
translator mentions in his last paragraph, one
whose estimate of Scotland must be taken with a
grain of salt : —
"Escoce est ainsi appellee pour lea escotz qui y
habitent, et est la plus haulte partie de la Grant
Bretaigne, et est devisee d'Engleterre por bais de mer
et par rivieres qui courent entre deux vers la partie
d'aquilone, et a la partie opposite elle est toute environnee
de la mer qui la separe d'lllande.
"Les escotz sont moult semblables a ceux d'yllande en
langage et en meurs et en nature, et sont gens de legier
courage, fiers contre leurs adversaires, qui ont aussi cher
a mourir comme a etre en servitude. Et disent quo
c'est honte de mourir en son lit, et grant honneur d'estre
tue en tuant ses ennemis.
" Les escotz sont gens de petite vie, et qui soutiennent
faim moult longuement, et pour souvent ils manquent de
viant soleil couchant. Et vivent de lait, de beurre, de
fromage, de fruis de chair et de poiason plus que de pain,
et sont moult belles gens de corps et de visage, mais ils
ont un habit qui moult les enlaidit. Et par ce que ils se
sont melez avec les anglais ils ont moult laisse de leurs
premieres conditions et de leur habit, et ont tout mis en
mieulx. Et toute honnestete qui est entre eulx, leur
vient des englois, avec lesquels ila conversent. Mais les
escotz sauvages qui habitent les bois, aussi comme ceulx
d'Yllande, se glorifient en tenir leur ancien usage en
mbit, en parler, et en maniere de vivre, et ont en depit
;outes gens qui ne vivent aussi comme eulx.
8>»S.XI. MAK. 20, '97.]
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" Lea escotz veulent etre sus toutea autres gens, et sont
envieux de leurs voisins.
" 11s se moquent de tous et reprennent les conditions
des autres, et loent les leurs.
" Us n'ont point honte de mentir et ne reputent nulle
personne noble ne bonne, ne hardie, si il n'est de leur
nation. Us se glorifient en leurs meffais, et n'ayment
point la paix.
"Leur region quant a habon dance de biens, de beaulte
de bois et des rivieres et des fontaines, et a plante de
betes, n'est pas pareille selon la quantity au pays d'Engle-
terre, si comme dit Erodoque, qui enquit du siege des
terres moult sagement, comme dit Pline.
" II apparait clairement en ce chapitre que 1'auteur de
ce livre ne fut pas escot mais fut engloie, et pour ce, il le
croira qui vouldra en ce partie."
H. MAXWELL.
CORONATION OF JAMES I. AND VI. (See 8th S.
iv. 51.) — In a note on this subject a quotation is
given from the Coronation Office of King James
and Queen Anne, as follows: "The King and
Queene come to the steps of the altar there to
receive the holy Sacrament." The king, yes ; the
queen, no. See an article in Scottish Review,
October, 1896, on the coronation of James VI.
From this it appears that Anne of Denmark had,
in Scotland, become a Catholic, and although
urgently entreated to receive the Communion,
absolutely refused to do so, and remained sitting
in her chair, while James received the bread and
wine alone. GEORGE ANGUS.
St. Andrews, N.B.
AN ALTAR-PIECE, A.D. 1723. — The following
description occurs in a letter from the Rev. Joseph
Cookson to Ralph Thoresby, Leeds, 20 May : —
" Our altar-piece is further adorned, since you went,
with three flower-pots upon three pedestals, upon the
wainscot, gilt; and a hovering dove upon the middle
one ; three Cherubs over the middle pannel, the middle
one gilt, and a piece of open carved work underneath,
going down towards the middle of the velvet."
RICHARD H. THORNTON.
Portland, Oregon.
HARSNETT FAMILY. (See ante, p. 166.) — Other
wills useful for the pedigree are those of Mary
Harsnett, of London, proved in February, 1655 ;
and of Barbara Harsnett, of Essex, proved in
September, 1655. They are registered in the
Prerogative Court of Canterbury, 208 and 242,
Aylett, respectively. GORDON GOODWIN.
GEORGE FEN NELL ROBSON. — In the latest
volume of the ' Diet. Nat. Biog.' (xlix. 61) this
artist is stated to have been the eldest son of
Robert and Margaret Robson, of Warrington, in
Lancashire. As a matter of fact, he was the
thirteenth child of John Robson (1739-1824), a
wine merchant of Durham, and the first of his
second marriage, with Charlotte, daughter of George
Fennell, R.N. John Robson was the fruitful
father of twenty-five children. His first wife, with
whom he enjoyed thirteen years of married life,
was Margaret (1751-1784), daughter of Richard
Wetherell, of Durham, a niece to Dean Wetherellj
of Hereford. In their twenty years of married life
the second wife brought him thirteen children.
Both wives were married and buried at St. Mary-
le-Bow, Durham, and there also the artist, though
his death took place in London, was interred.
H. W.
New University Club,
LONDON TOPOGRAPHY : No. 37, LEICESTER
SQUARE. — No. 37, Leicester Square, situate on
the north side of the square at the north-east
corner of St. Martin's Street, now in course of
demolition, was the scene of a murder in the middle
of the last century, which attracted considerable
attention at the time. Theodore Gardelle, a
French enameller and miniature painter, who
lodged in this house, murdered his landlady, Mrs.
King, on 19 February, 1761, and afterwards dis-
membered and partially disposed of the body.
Gardelle — whose fate excited some sympathy, he
having been one of a fraternity of artists (of whom
Hogarth was one) who were accustomed to meet
at Slaughter's Tavern in St. Martin's Lane— was
found guilty of murder, although it seems not
improbable that the crime was manslaughter, and
was executed in the Hay market opposite Pan ton
Street, There is an account of the crime in the
Gent. Mag., May, 1761, p. 137.
There is a head of a man in a white cap, read-
ing, attributed to Hogarth, and engraved in Ire-
land's * Hogarth,' which is said to be a portrait of
Gardelle. This portrait is reproduced in Mr.
Hollingshead'a pamphlet on Leicester Square,
p. 39. JNO. HEBB.
'HISTORY OP PICKWICK.' — Mr. Percy Fitz-
gerald, in his interesting * History of Pickwick,'
appears to have made a slight mistake. On p. 187
he says : —
"There is one utterly silent character in 'Pickwick'
— as a friend has pointed out to me — who figures pro-
minently, taking his regular part in the drama, marries
one of the young ladies, and yet from the first to the last
page never once opens his mouth ! Here is another
'puzzler' which might have been 'set' at Mr.
Calverley's examination, and we will venture to say
that few readers could find the answer offnand. This
silent personage was Mr. Trundle, Wardle's son-in-
law."
As a matter of fact, Mr. Trundle did break
silence once — and only once — in the course of the
story. It was at the review during the lunch in
Wardle's barouche. He proposed to take wine
with one of the guests. " ' Will you permit me to
have the pleasure, sir ? ' said Mr. Trundle to Mr.
Winkle" (chap. iv. p. 41, ed. 1837).
J. B. FIRMAN, M.A.
Castleacre, Swaffham.
BULL AND BEAR MEDAL. — The following
description of a medal now before me may in*
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terest. Copper medal larger and thicker than a
penny. Obverse : a very active-looking bull with
a human head; underneath this, "John Ashby,
Stockbroker, No. 3, Bartholomew Lane, Bank.'
Reverse : an abject-looking bear with a human
head ; below, " Fixed holidays," and then in two
columns the dates of the holidays, " Jan. 1, 6, 25,
29, 30," and so on through the other months ;
" office hours from 10 to 3." The period is pro-
bably about 1800. W. H. PATTERSON.
FRENCH INVASION OF FISHGUARD, 1797.— The
readers of ' N. & Q.' will be interested in hearing
that the centenary of the French invasion has been
celebrated in Fishguard and the neighbourhood
with all due solemnity and rejoicing. Full par-
ticulars are given in the County Echo, published
25 Feb. by Levi Evans, County Echo office.
A. M. D.
Fiabguard, Pembrokeshire.
AN EARLY COPYING MACHINE. — In the 'Life of
Lord Stratford de Redcliffe,' by Mr. S. Lane-Poole,
mention is made of an early copying machine.
Mr. Joseph Planta writes to him in October, 1809 :
'Thinking it necessary to keep a copy of my
letter, I am scribbling away upon a machine in-
vented by a Mr. Wedgwood, and which makes
two copies at once." E. WALFORD.
Ventnor.
RUSSIAN FOLK-LORE : ALLEGED HUMAN
SACRIFICES. — Hardly have the protracted pro-
ceedings against the Votjak peasants of Moultan
resulted in their honourable acquittal when a some-
what similar allegation is adduced from another
part of Russia, though in this case it is a corpse
that has been put under contribution. The Novae
Vremya, of 31 Jan. (12 Feb.) gives the following
account : —
"A communication from Sofievka, Alexandrovsky
district, Ekaterinoslav Government, printed in the
Ekaterinostav Government Intelligencer, states : ' On the
1st January the son, aged five weeks, of a man named
Johan Shenemann, belonging to a German colony,
Karnenka, near Sofievka, died, and was buried on the
3rd January (O.S.). The little boy's father recently paid
a visit to the cemetery to trim the grave, and found it all
in disorder, pieces of the stuff used for lining the coffin
being scattered about on the surface. This clearly
showed that the grave had been broken open, and Johan
Shenemann informed the village police of the sacrilege.
The grave was opened in the presence of the village
pope [priest] and authorities, and it was found that the
top of the coffin had been wrenched off, the calico and
muslin shrouds of the poor little fellow had been rent
from top to bottom, and a deep gash appeared across
the body, from which the heart and other parts had been
extracted. So far nothing is known as to the per-
petrators of this atrocity."
Is not the value set on cauls by sailors referable
to heathen superstitions of a somewhat kindred
class to the foregoing ? H. E. M.
St. Petersburg*
"DADLE."— In Derbyshire a " dadle " is a
woman's big apron, and also the pinafore of a
child. Also it means to hold a child with hands
under the armpits when it is learning to walk, and
is further descriptive of the act of holding a lame
or feeble person by the arm as a support when
walking. A woman holds her " daile " extended
at the corners when she buys a peck of apples
from the hawker at her door. And before tossing
anything small to a child it is told to hold its
" dadle " out. Halliwell gives the words "daddle"
and " dadle." THOS. RATCLIFFE.
Worksop.
CRIMINAL FAMILY. — The following is transcribed
from the London Chronicle of 3-6 Aug., 1765 : —
" To the Printer. I observed in your paper latelv,
an account of the pedigree of a child born in Tothill
Fields, Bridewell, and, on its mother's removal, baptized
in Newgate, that the godmother ia now under sentence
of death in Newgate, and the godfather was lately exe-
cuted at Tyburn ; which account is not to be put in
competition with the pedigree of the famous Dalton,
who was executed in 1730. Dalton's mother had three
husbands and two sons ; two of the husbands were hanged
at Tyburn, and the third husband, whose name was
Carey, hanged himself at Cow Cross ; the mother was
transported, and the two sons hanged at Tyburn ; the
younger was executed with one Serjeant, for the murder
of Waller in the pillory, who swore falsly against Dalton,
the elder brother. — J. S,"
Salterton, Devon.
T. N. BRUSHFIELD, M.D.
"WHIPPITY SCOORIE." —
" The time-honoured custom known as ' Whippity
Scoorie ' was observed in Lanark last night. The cus-
tom is supposed to date back to the thirteenth century.
The bells in the parish church stop ringing at six o'clock
in the evening on the last day of October till the 1st day
of March. Hundreds of boys and girls and as many
ijrown-up people assembled at the Cross last night to
bear the bells ring, and, as usual, when they finished the
younger portion of the community made a rush up the
Wellgate, where, until the last year or two, there was a
stand-up fight between the boys of the burgh, and those
of New Lanark with their caps tied to strings. About
lalf-past six the victors formed themselves into a pro-
cession and paraded the streets." — Glasgow Herald,
2 March.
WILLIAM GEORGE BLACK.
Glasgow.
DAILY MASS. — A writer in the Spectator re-
cently asserted that every Catholic priest is bound
to say mass every day. I have been a priest since
1876, and this is news to me. All bishops and
priests with cure of souls are bound to say mass
on Sundays and Days of Obligation, which latter
differ in different countries. E. g., St. Andrew,
30 Nov., is of Obligation in Scotland, but not in
England. On this point the ' Catholic Diction-
ary ; says : —
"No law requires a priest, as such, to celebrate
daily, and it is commonly held that he is not bound
do so except on the more solemn feasts. A parish
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priest must say mass whenever at least the people are
bound to hear it."
No doubt to say mass daily is the common, though
not at all the universal, custom. Obligation is
one thing, devotion is another.
GEORGE ANGUS.
St, Andrews, N.B.
We must request correspondents desiring information
on family matters of only private interest to affix their
names and addresses to their queries, in order that the
answers may be addressed to them direct.
" BRANG, "—The * New English Dictionary ' has
this word in the sense of a " carcass of whales and
other large animals, in the sea." The word occurs
in Maxwell's * Sports in Scotland ' (1855), p. 347.
I should be very much obliged if any of your
correspondents could tell me whether the word is
still in use in any part of Scotland.
THE EDITOR OF
'THE ENGLISH DIALECT DICTIONARY.'
Clarendon Press, Oxford.
K. WHITE, OF CAMBRIDGE.— I have a design
for a book-plate, bearing this name, with arms,
Erm., two lions rampant combatant or, on a chief
gu. a crescent between two fleurs-de-lys arg. ;
crest, a wyvern segreant ; motto, " Blanc comme
la neige." It is evidently the work of W. Hen-
shaw. I should be grateful to any correspondent
who would tell me where I can find any informa-
tion about the family which bore these arms, &c.
Papworth is silent on the point.
JULIAN MARSHALL.
MS. WANTED. — Will any one kindly inform
me where I could find a MS., written about 1661,
entitled "A True Character of the Deportment
for these Eighteen Years last past of the Principal
Gentry within the Counties of Caermarthen, Pem-
broke, and Cardigan, in S. Wales"? This is
frequently quoted in Meyrick's ' History of Car-
diganshire.' WILMOT VAUGHAN.
Paris.
POISONED ARROWS IN EUROPEAN WARFARE.
-In the account of the yew-tree given in ' Herbal
Simples,' by W. T. Fernie, M.D., 1895, it is
stated that the juice of the tree and of its leaves
is a rapidly fatal poison, the symptoms corre-
sponding in a very remarkable way with those
which follow the bites of venomous snakes. In
olden days it was, as Shakespeare says, double-fatal,
" because the leaves and fruit seeds are poisonous,
and the bows made from its branches as well as
arrows armed with its deadly juice were instru-
ments of death." Were the arrows of mediaeval
Christendom poisoned ? And do pre-Christian
writers speak of the use of such arrows among the
higher races of pagan Europe? At the present
moment I cannot recollect an instance in which
they were employed, even in hunting dangerous
animals. The poisoned wound which, but for his
wife's courage, might have caused Edward I.'s
death was given by a follower of " Mahound,"
not by a Christian. M. P.
STAG-HORN, OR Fox's TAIL.— What plant is it
that Wordsworth says is called by this name in
Langdale (see ' The Idle Shepherd Boys ; or,
Dungeon-ghyll Force')? It can hardly be the
grass commonly known as fox-tail (alopecurui) ;
yet I know of no other plant bearing this name,
and stag-horn, as a plant-name, I cannot find in
any botanical work, scientific or popular. Is it
stag-moss that is meant ? C. C. B.
"THE FIRE OF DESTINY." — The following
passage is from ' The Seven Champions of Christen-
dom,' pt. i. chap. vii. : —
"But remembering himself how he read in former
times of a going fire, called Ignis Patuus, the fire of
destiny; by some 'Will with the Wisp,' or 'Jack with
the Lantern'; and likewise by some simple country
people, • The Fair Maid of Ireland,' which commonly
used to lead wandering travellers out of their ways ; the
like imaginations entered into the champion's mind."
Is Richard Johnson, editor of the above book,
1595, the inventor of the expression "Fire of
Destiny "; or had it been previously used by others ?
The expression calls to mind : —
" Forbear, my son," the Hermit cries,
" To tempt the dangerous gloom ;
For yonder faithless phantom flies
To lure thee to thy doom."
Goldsmith, ' Edwin and Angelina,' st. 3.
F. C. BIRKBECK TERRY.
TRIALS AT BAR.— At the recent trial of Dr.
Jameson and his comrades the judgment of the
Court was pronounced by the Lord Chief Justice.
I do not know whether this has been commented
upon ; but will some reader who is learned in the
law tell me if it was an innovation ? I have always
understood that the judgment in trials at bar is
pronounced by the senior Puisne. This was done
in the Tichborne case by Mr. Justice Mellor ; and
in the Irish trial of O'Connell and bis associates,
my collateral ancestor, Mr. Justice Burton, with
difficulty contended with his emotions when de-
claring the sentence of the Court.
EDWARD H. MARSHALL, M.A.
Hastings.
"AN OLD PARLIAMENTARY HAND." — Can OHO
of your readers refer me to the locus classicus of
this phrase ? Q- * •
"JACK o' THE CLOCK."— In Southwold Church,
Suffolk, a curious wooden figure, in armour, stands
above the vestry door. This is "Jack o' the
Clock," which Gardner says is "as old as
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church itself." It formerly stood on a bracket at
the west end, and being connected with the works
of the tower clock, struck the hours for divine
service. Ic has been put in order, and still fulfils
its duties, striking its little battleaxe on a bell
hanging by it. In the chancel of the neighbour-
ing church of Blythburgh there is a similar " Jack,"
but smaller, and out of order, having lost its bell.
Southwold Church was built between 1432 and
1460, Blythborough between 1442 and the end
of the century, so that these figures are perhaps
contemporary.
Shakspeare wrote 'Eichard II.' about 1600.
The king, when imprisoned in Pomfret Castle,
shortly before his death in 1400, is made to say : —
But my time
Buns posting on in Bolingbroke's proud joy,
While I stand fooling here, hia Jack o' the clock.
It would be interesting to hear of the earliest
known examples of these figures in connexion with
clocks. Were they in general use throughout
England ? I have met with another example in
fiction. Hardy, in ' Far from the Madding Crowd,'
speaking of All Saints' Church, Melchester, says :
" From the west wall of the tower projected a little
canopy with a quarter-jack and email bell beneath it, the
automaton being driven by the same clock machinery
that struck the large bell in the tower."
A. M. ETTON.
B. E. FAULKNER. — Wanted information regard-
ing Benjamin Eawlinson Faulkner, portrait painter
(1787-1849). Where, at Fulham, did his death
occur? CHAS. J. FERET.
SALTHAM. — Can any reader give particulars
of the history or locality of the manor of Saltham,
or Saltham Billets, situate either in Middlesex or
Surrey? E. w. M.
MORGAN OP ABERGAVENNY AND NEWINGTON
BUTTS.— I seek for the parentage and ancestry of
Walter Morgan, described as of Abergavenny when,
on 13 February, 1763, he married by licence at
Llanellen Church, near Abergavenny, Mary,
daughter of Francis Williams, of Caerwys, co.
Flint, by his wife Mary Walters, of Pieroefield,
Chepstow, and niece and heiress of Thomas
Williams, of Llanellen. The property at Llanellen
appears to have been sold about 1780, and Walter
Morgan, his wife, and at least six children to have
moved to Newington Butts, where two, and
possibly more, children were born. Walter Mor-
gan is said to have died 16 October, 1791, and to
have been buried at a chapel of ease to Camberwell
Church in the Borough Eoad. His widow is
stated to have died in 1820, 1821, or 1822, and to
have been buried at a chapel of ease in Holloway
to St. Mary's Church, Islington. Of the daughters
of Walter Morgan, Mary, born 23 June, 1766
married Bradshaw ; Ann, born 31 March,
1768, married Hall ; Elizabeth, born 6 August,
and baptized at Llanellen 8 September, 1773,
married Carter. Walter Morgan had a
brother, William Morgan, who it is said had house
property at Chelsea, Hammersmith, and Baling,
and is believed to have died about 1794, leaving
two daughters.
EEGINALD STEWART BODDINGTON.
15, Markham Square, Chelsea.
HARTIGAN. — Information is sought about the
family of Edward Hartigan, of the Guild of Barber-
Surgeons of the City of Dublin, who died dr. 1767.
He married a Miss Heron, and left two children,
William Hartigan, M.D., President of the Eoyal
College of Surgeons, Ireland, and Professor of
Anatomy T.C.D. ; and Mary Hartigan, great-
grandmother of the present Earl of Dunraven.
Also information about the Abb6 O'Hartigan,
mentioned by Lingard as "that meddling Irish
ecclesiastic," who was confessor to Henrietta
Maria, the wife of Charles I.
A. S. H.
J. E. WOOLFORD, ARTIST, 1804. — Was he of
any importance ; and did he leave descendants in
Scotland by his wife Margaret, daughter of George
Fullerton, of Leith, Craighall, and Broughton ?
A. 0. H.
PAUL OF FOSSOMBRONE. — I should be grateful
for information respecting this writer. I am
acquainted with the references made to him by
Dom P^tau in his work ' De Doctrina Temporum,'
and by the editors of the ( Monumenta Britannica.'
Paul is said to have been the first to employ the
era of the Incarnation computed according to the
Gospel, and he is called a bishop ; but neither
Migne nor Moroni (unless I mistake) knows about
him or his works, and the list of the bishops of
Fossombrone given by P. P. B. Gams in his
' Series Episcoporum Ecclesiss Catholicse ' does
not include him. A. ANSCOMBE.
28, Carlingford Road, Tottenham,
SOURCE OF QUOTATION. — I should be glad if
any of your readers could tell me whence the
following lines come. I have been trying for some
time to verify them : —
Sweet eyes of starry stillness,
Thro' which the soul of some immortal sorrow looks.
I am told they are to be found at the bottom of
some picture in the Liverpool Picture Gallery, but
the name of the author is not appended.
N. L. H. MlLLARD.
HANWELL CHURCH. — At a meeting recently
held in connexion with Hanwell Church, in the
course of speeches made by both the late and the
present rectors, it was stated that the building was
designed by Sir Gilbert Scott. Now I fancy this
must be incorrect, as the architecture of the edifice
in question is hardly of a kind to do credit to so
great a master. Is it not possible that a certain
Mr. Scott, architect qf the Town. IJall at Brentford
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229
-and not Sir Gilbert— may have designed the Han-
well Church ? Nothing is more likely than that
the identity of name and profession may have
given birth to an erroneous tradition. Perhaps
one or other of your readers may be able to supply
the facts. ARTHUR F. HILL.
38, New Bond Street.
"BOB"=AN INSECT. —Is this use of the word
found in other counties ; and why should a proper
noun be used in such a sense (compare the York-
shire Dick or Dickie, meaning a louse) ? In Hamp-
shire bobs are lice in the hair. Long bobs are small
black flies which infest the hops, causing much
annoyance to the pickers. Pincer-bob — a, stag-
beetle; but the more knowing children say "'at
it 's only t' toms as is pincer-bobs " (Tom in these
parts is always used to imply the male sex).
Black-bob = the bloody-nose beetle, Timarcha
Iczvigata. When children find these, they spit on
them, and say, "Black-bob spit blood, or I'll kill
you." Chisel-bob or cheese-pill is the wood-louse
or milleped. A email native was heard to remark,
one frosty day, "Me an' our Sarah we don't like
gettin' up these cold mornin's ; we likes to lie
curled up in we bed like chisel-bobs."
W. M. E. F.
Liphook.
THE USES OF CRESTS AND BADGES. — The
question of the relative uses of the crest and badge
in heraldry is one of interest, and I venture to
raise it, in so far as to the modern use of the
former as the practical representative of the latter.
Most heraldic writers condemn in no measured
terms the present practice ; but is there not some-
thing to be eaid in favour of it 1 It seems almost
impossible that it can have grown up as a mere
perverse following of the true rules of heraldry ;
and perhaps some one who has studied the question
can suggest the probable causes from which it
arose. As now granted, crests, to all intents and
purposes, are intended for use as badges ; or why do
they continue to be granted ? If it was desired to
revive the use of a badge in the old sense of the
term, how can it be done legitimately, seeing they
are not granted nor apparently recognized by the
authorities ? Mr. Boutel has suggested that grants
of badges only should be made at a small fee, or
that crests should be used without wreath to do
duty as such. The first suggestion has not been
acted upon by the Heralds' College, and under
present conditions to adopt the second would be, I
presume, to use a charge destitute of authority.
No treatises on heraldry that I know have ever
dealt with this subject in more than a sketchy
manner ; and the gist of the matter seems, therefore,
that one can use a crest improperly, or a badge
which is unauthorized. But of two evils choose
the lesser. Which is the lesser in this case ?
J, P. B.
ST. PATRICK'S PURGATORY.
(8th S. x. 236, 361, 463.)
As pointed out by the REV. ED. MARSHALL,
there are mediaeval accounts of the haunted cavern
formerly so designated. I should add "a great
many." It is said to have been entered from
behind the altar of the Abbey at Vernic, in Lough
Derg. In fact, St. Patrick's Purgatory formed
one of the most notorious and attractive myths of
the twelfth, thirteenth, and fourteenth centuries.
Whether it had its original title from St. Patrick
or a certain abbot (De Nevers) of the name has
been discussed, with result in favour of the latter.
At any rate, Hugh, or Henry, of Saltrey, in the
reign of Henry II., popularized its peculiarities by
his marvellous account of a penitent knight, Owen
(Lat. Oengus), who visited it, and who in poesy,
under the name of Fortunatus, became the Orpheus,
Eneaf, Wainamoinen, or in prose the Richard
Burton, of the mysterious Hibernian Hades. This
narrative was transcribed into metrical French by
Marie de Compiegne (1245 1).*
Mr. Baring-Gould, in his * Curious Myths of the
Middle Ages/ gives a concise account of this
characteristic morsel of the abundant literature of
the subject, from which I condense. Fortunatus,
a Cypriote knight, had learned in his travels that
within two days' journey of Valdric, a town in Ire-
land, was a place called Vernic, where was located
the entrance to this purgatory. Arrived there, he
found an abbey. Having presented the abbot with
a jar of (Cyprus ?) wine, he obtained leave for him-
self and Leopold, one of his servitors, to enter.
After receiving the Eucharist and being cautioned
not to venture too far, they lit their candles and
descended. There they heard the chanting or
wailing of the sinners,t but soon found themselves
hungry and lightless, and ultimately lay down to
die of despair. Their failure to return, however,
aroused the solicitude of their less enterprising
comrades, who angrily menaced the kindly abbot.
The latter, in consequence, dispatched an expe-
rienced guide into the cavern, who discovered the
wanderers in time to save their lives. The abbot
thenceforth forbade entrance to any one.
Variants of this story may be found in Cesar von
Heisterbach, ' De Miraculis sui Temporis,' lib. xii.
cap. xxxviii., and Giraldus Cambrensis, ' Topo-
graphia Hibernise,' cap. v. Joscelin of Furness
likewise dwells upon the story with inventive
pleasure (A.D. 1210), and thus it became a highly
valued mythical property of the days of the Latin
* Of. Douce, in Archosologia, 1800, xiii. 35-67. There
is at least one English version among the Cottonian MSS.
f It used to be held that St. Patrick, desirous of
converting the nation, had prayed successfully that they
Should hear the pries of thp euflerers in purgatory.
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Revival : " If any one doubfc of Purgatory," says
Cesar von Heisterbach, " let him go to Scotland
[Ireland] and enter the Purgatory of S. Patrick,
and his doubts will be dispelled."
In the fourteenth century there would seem to
have been a resuscitation of interest in the legend —
if, indeed, it had suffered any real decline — for we
find Froissart " interviewing" a Sir William Lisle,
who renders account of his personal experiences at
Lough Derg, and we also find Edward III. granting
testimonials (1358) to a Hungarian and a Lom-
bard noble who had faithfully fulfilled the dismal
pilgrimage and returned, perhaps pale-faced and
dejected, like those who had consulted the oracle
of Trophonios at Lebadea. I have also somewhere
come upon a Malatesta who accomplished the task
at about the same date. In 1397 Richard II.
gave permit to Raymond de Perilhos, Knight of
St. John, a Limousin, and twenty attendants, to
visit the mysterious spot.
In 1409 we have the account of the experiences
of William Staunton, of Durham, on the Friday
after the feast of Holy rood, which is fully given in
Thomas Wright's ' Purgatory of St. Patrick '
(1844). The fifteenth century, however, was not
to pass without the cumbrous pontifical car passing
over the body of one of its time-spent servants.
In 1497, Alexander VI,, upon the report of a
mere prelate, decided that St. Patrick's Purgatory
was a deception, and its glory passed forthwith —
into the printer's hands.
Nevertheless, interest in it by no means ceased,
and last year I was vividly reminded of the fact
when I had the pleasure of descending the magni-
ficent, but disused, Pozzo di San Patrizio at
Orvieto. This well was constructed by Antonio
San Gallo and Simone Mosca, at the command of
the refugee Clement VII. (Medici), in 1528, in
order that the often beleaguered Urbs Vetus
might not run short of water.
This well, 265 ft. deep, with its double spiral
flight of stairs, was doubtless named after the
mysterious cavern in Ireland, and, not without
volcanological reasons, may have been supposed to
lead to Purgatory, at least by the astonished
Orvietani. Benvenuto Cellini (he himslf tells us)
was commissioned by the Pope to design a com-
memorative medallion representing Moses striking
the rock, "and I was to put upon it'Ut bibat
Populus ' " (cf. ' Autobiog. di Bo. Cellini ').
In the seventeenth century, however, there
occurred a vigorous literary resuscitation of the
legend in France,* England,f Spain, and Ger-
many.J Of this, however, the most interesting
* P. Bouillon, ' Hist, de la Vie et du Purgatoire de
S. Patrice,' Avignon, 1642, 12mo.
t H. Jones, 'St. Patrick's Purgatory/ 1647, 4to.
C. Darling, 'The Delightful History of the Life and
Death of St. Patrick,' London, 1685, 8vo.
t C. Loescher, « De Fabuloao Patricii Purg° '
Lipsiae, 1660, 4to.
results by far were the publication of Juan Perez
de Montalvan's ' Vida y Purgatorio de S. Patricio,1
Madrid, 1627, and the ' Patritiana Decas, sive
libri x., quibus de Patritii vita, Purgatorio, Mira-
culis, rebusque gestis, de Religionis Ibernicae
casibus,' <fcc., Madrid, 1629, 8vo. From these
works Calderon de la Barca derived the materials
for his fine play, of which it is possible to say
that the subject, by fully appealing to his military,
romantic, and spiritual character, completely
inspired the greatest of Milton's contemporaries.
I cannot forbear quoting the following passage,
describing Ludovico's return from his perilous
emprise, after having witnessed every imaginable
horror, accompanied by demon guides. He at last
desperately contrives to cross a fiery river : —
Here within a wood I found me,
So delightful, and so fertile
That the past was all forgotten.
On my path rose stately cedars,
Laurels, — all the trees of Eden,
While the ground with rose-leaves scattered,
Spread its white and verdant carpet.
Tender birds in all the branches
Told their amorous complainings
To the many-murmuring streamlets,
To the thousand crystal fountains.
Then I saw a glorious city,
Which amid the heavens uplifted
Many pinnacles and turrets.
Precious gold composed her portals
All with flashing diamonds garnished;
Topaz, emerald, and ruby
Intermixed their varied lustre.
Ere I reached the gates they opened,
And the Saints in long procession
Came to meet me, men and women,
Young and old, and youths and maidens, —
All approached, serene and happy;
Choirs of Seraphim and angels,
Breathing heaven's delicious music,
Sweetly eung divinest anthems.
After these at length approached me
The resplendent, — the most glorious,—
The great Patrick, — the Apostle.
Cf. Calderon, D. F. McCarthy trans., vol. ii.
Perhaps not the least remarkable and interesting
circumstance about this legend is the fact that
Hibernia was the parent of St. Brandan, of Clon-
fert, in the fifth century, whose voyage in search
of the terrestrial Paradise* became the prolific
parent of corresponding myths, which were even
more popular throughout the Middle Ages than
their grim complementary pendant above con-
sidered. At any rate, we may not err in dis-
covering in both legends no remote sources of
* Apparently the Emerald Isle, even in those remote
days before the Saxon tyranny, was not so happy or
delightful a land as patriots would have the world
believe ; or was it a defect of taste on the part of the
saint — just a little obliquity of vision — that made him
fail to realize that the Paradise he was seeking was
around him ? But perhaps he had had fleeting acquaint-!
ance with Irish kings.
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ideas which contributed to inspire the imagination
of Europe's greatest mediaeval poet.
ST. GLAIR BADDELET.
In addition to the other references, see what is
said upon this subject in Mr. Baring-Gould's
' Carious Myths of the Middle Ages.'
EDWARD H. MARSHALL, M.A.
Hastings.
xi. 169).— This is
is to be found in
INCIDENT IN SICILY (8th S.
in the 'Polyoronicon,' but it
more modern books : —
"Aboute that tyme Cacanua kynge of the Anes, That
arne the Hunes camen into Italye, And beten downe
the Longobardes. And slewe her duke Gysulphus/ and
besyged the Cyte Aquylia.
' TJ Romylda the wyfe of the Duke that was slayne sawe
hym walke about in the syege and sawe that he was
fayre and louely. And loued hym gretly & sent hym
worde anone that yf he wolde take her to wyfe/ she
wolde delyuer hym the cyte and all that was therin.
The kynge graunted/ and the cyte was taken & brent
and the men take prysoners and lad awaye. And the
kynge toke Romylda as he had promysed but it was in
Bcorne/ and laye by her one nyghte. And in an other
night he made . xii . of the humen to lye by her in dyspyte
eche after other. After warde he pyght a sharpe pole in the
mydle of ye felde/ and pyght her thrugh out her body
with the ouer ende of the pole and lete her be there
and sayde. So cruell an harlat suche an husbonde semeth
to haue."— ' Polycronicon,' Peter Treveris, 1527, f. 197.
' The daughters of Romilda were ohast and
drewe not too hordom after her moder "; and the
chronicle goes on to state the efficient means they
took to preserve themselves from outrage, and that
"afterwarde ye maydens were solde and wedded to
gentylmen." This account is also given by Hey-
woode in his 'Nine Bookes of Various History
concerning Women,' 1624, p. 190. K. R.
Boston, Lincolnshire.
I have read this story in one of the books of
travel by Alexandre Dumas the elder. It will be
found, I think, either in ' La Corricola ' or in * La
Speronara.' There is a slight difference between
the narrative of Dumas and that of your corre-
spondent. But the story is such a very warm one
that I will not attempt to make any correction.
Dumas tells the story as an historical one, and I
think that he refers to Guicciardini ; but I will
not be sure, for I read his amusing book a very
long time ago. E. YARDLEY.
BURNS'S FRIEND NICOL (8th S. xi. 66, 171).—
Burns wrote " Willie brew'd a peck o' maut " for
Johnson's ' Scots Musical Museum,' in the third
volume of which it appeared, in 1790. These are
the opening lines of the original version :—
0 Willie brew'd a peck o' maut,
And Rob and Allan cam to see ;
Three blyther hearts, that lee lang night,
Ye wad na found in Christendie.
Carrie, in his ' Works of Robert Burns ' (1800),
<lee-lang" in the third line and "find "in the.
fourth. In the note he appends to the song
Currie says nothing of the text, but simply
mentions that the three friends, "all men of
uncommon talents, are now all under the turf."
He makes a mistake as to the musical member of
the company, calling him Allan Cleghorn instead
of Allan Masterton. George Thomson, who was
reasonably very proud of his friendship with
Burns, and proclaimed his vested interest in lyrics
specially furnished for himself, would naturally do
his best for textual accuracy even with reprinted
songs. He gives " Willie brew'd a peck o' maut "
in * Select Collection of Original Scottish Airs,'
vol. iv., 1805. With trivial exceptions, like
" drappy " for drappie and " blinking " for blinkin,
his reading is throughout that of the ' Musical
Museum.' Curiously enough, however, with the
music facing the text he has " Willy " and " Chris-
tendee " instead of the original spelling. It is also
worth noting that, while the name given to the
song is the same as that in the * Museum,' the air
is called ' The Happy Trio,' and the title over the
music is ' The Haprjy Topers.' While, apparently,
thoroughly exclusive in reference to the songs
specially written for his publication, Thomson
seems to have rioted in exuberant ingenuity round
this fascinating lyric reproduced from Johnson. It
may be added that the reading as given in the
editions of Burns prepared respectively by Hogg
and Motherwell and the late Mr. Scott Douglas is
that of Johnson, Currie, and Thomson. According
to them all "Rob and Allan cam to see," and the
visit became a joyous feast, as is dramatically
indicated in superb Bacchanalian fashion.
Another variation on the original text of the
song occurs in modern editions. In Johnson the
last stanza is : —
Wha first shall rise to gang awa,
A cuckold, coward loun is he !
Wha first beside his chair shall fa',
He is the king among us three.
Here, again, Johnson, Currie, and Thomson are
agreed, while Hogg and Motherwell have "last"
for first in the third line, and Scott Douglas gives
the original reading. To be successful in getting
" fou " is perhaps a more grateful tribute to the
influence of the jolly god than to be able to resist
him throughout a protracted sitting, and this is
probably the idea that underlies the version of the
original text. THOMAS BAYNB.
Helensburgh, N.B
FAUNTLEROY (8th 'S. x. 173, 246).— I am very
much obliged to 0. M. P. for his kind communica-
tion of the advertisement of the sale by auction of
Fauntleroy's Brighton house. My informant as to
its identity was a gentleman whom I never knew
otherwise than as " the French Captain." He was
conspicuous figure on the Brighton "front"
ie, ] worfcs ot Kobert .burns' (1800), a conspicuous figure on tne .brigntoi
the same reading, his only variations being twenty years or more ago ; at that time also a
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constant frequenter of the chess -room at the
Brighton Free Library. He was a gentlemanly
man, of a tall, Quixotic figure, as often as not
wearing clothes of an ultra-French cut, and with
the red ribbon of the Legion of Honour at his
button-hole. My impression is that he may have
been a cavalry officer under Louis Philippe. At
all events, I understood him to have been on duty
at the transfer of the ashes of Napoleon to the
Invalides. THOMAS J. JEAKES.
MEDIAEVAL ACCOUNTS (8th S. xi. 48).— The
further question arises, What did the executors do
with their three hundred pitchers when they got
them ? Ib looks almost as if a cross-reference to
* Coronation Mugs ' (8th S. x. 436, 524) would not
be out of place. Q. V.
Queen Eleanora's executors' accounts were pub-
lished under the editorship of Mr. Beriah Botfield.
See Miss Strickland's * Queens of England.'
EDWARD H. MARSHALL, M.A.
Hastings.
HAYNE : HATNES (8th S. x. 515 ; xi. 37, 150).
~I presume your correspondent ME. 0. R.
HAINES possesses a copy of the will of his ancestor,
the famous Dr. Simon Heynes. If not, I have a
pretty full abstract, which I could let him see. It
is dated 17 July, 1552 (P.O.C. 29, Powell). The
will of his widow, Joan Yale, is dated 7 February,
1585/6 (P. C.C. 28, Spencer).
CHAS. J. FijRET.
49, Edith Road, West Kensington, W.
In Pennsylvania surnames of German origin
have often been thoroughly Anglicized, and now
but slightly resemble their original forms. A pro-
minent family has for much more than a century
been known as Hain, but the name is believed
originally to have been Hoehn. In another county
there is a Mr. Haines, whose father invariably
wrote his name Haintz. As the writer is person-
ally familiar with the signature of both father and
son, this statement may be taken as absolutely
correct. J. H. D. '
Lancaster, Pa.
THE FOLK-LORE OP FILATURES (8th S. ix. 324 ;
T. 261, 325, 405). — I am deeply indebted to
D. M. R. and to MR. ARTHUR MAYALL for their
kind, courteous, and considerate communications.
Their proffered inches are delectably acceptable.
It follows, of course, that I greedily covet whole
ells upon ells of similar matter ; failing which, the
smallest contributions will always be thankfully
received and duly appreciated.
THOMAS J. JEAKES.
Tower House, New Hampton.
REV. THOMAS LOCKEY SOLEY (8th S. xi. 49,
176).— Many thanks to MR. HIPWELL for his
information. Perhaps he could tell me something
about the following. An ancestor of mine who
lived in the district of Northfield, and who was
born 1713/4 and died in 1777, also bore the
Christian name of Lockey (Hill). He belonged to
the parish of Clent in 1738 and Alvechurch in
1759-60. I have thought that there may have
been some connexion between him and the Rev.
Thomas Lockey Soley, on account of the unusual
Christian name of Lockey. I have not been able
to ascertain how my ancestor acquired it.
ARTHUR, F. HILL.
Foster's ' Alumni Oxonienses ' states that he was
son of John Soley, of Kidderminster, co. Wor-
cester, armiger, and that he was of Wadham
College, Oxford, matriculated 17 Feb., 1720/1,
age seventeen ; B.C.L. 1728. E. A. FRY.
172, Edmund Street, Birmingham.
PARSLEY: ITS FOLK-LORE (8th S. xi. 124). —
There can be no doubt that in the passage quoted
parsley is meant. All the plants named, willow,
dogtree, hemlock, yew, thorn, and also parsley,
are in one way or other associated with death and
the grave ; willow alone is, in addition, an emblem
of unhappy love. The meaning of the passage,
therefore, is plain ; the speaker is willing to die, if
so his lady chooses, but not to die forsaken.
0. 0. B.
CHAWORTH (8th S. xi. 128).— With reference to
the query of DE LA POLE about a daughter of Sir
Richard Pole, I should like to ask when did the
mistake (for such I conclude it to be, see G. E. C.'s
* Complete Peerage,' vol. vii. p. 39, s.v. " Salis-
bury ") originate of identifying the husband of
Margaret Plantagenet. daughter of George, Duke
of Clarence, with the Richard Pole who was killed
at Pavia, 1525 ? This identification is stated in
a pedigree on p. 347 of S. R. Gardiner's ' Student's
History of England,7 Longmans, 1890. SILO.
The arms of Sir Richard Delapoole, whose
daughter Margaret married Sir Thomas Chawortb,
Knt., were Azure, two bars ndbule* or. He was
probably connected with the Delapole family of
Kingston-upon-Hull, co. York. William Delapole,
of that place, bore the same arms except that the
bars were wavy. Sir Richard Pole, K.G., husband
of Lady Margaret Plantagenet, was the son of Sir
Geffrey Poole, Knt., co. Buckingham, his arms
being Per pale or and sable, a saltire engrailed,
counterchanged. DE LA POLE will see that they
were not identical. JOHN RADCLIFFE.
ROBERT PERREAU (8tb S. xi. 148).— Mr. Wheat-
ley, in his ' London Past and Present,' ii. 122,
gives, under the heading " Golden Square," an
excellent account of this unfortunate man : —
"Robert Perreau, who, with his brother Daniel, was
executed for forgery, January 17, 1776, was an ' apothe-
cary ' (i.e., general medical practitioner) in this square.
He must have been in, large practice, as Henry
8«* S. XI. MAS. 20, '970
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raond, the banker, to whom the forged bond was made
over, deposed that he knew him ' from being apothecary
to several families ' he was connected with. The case is
remembered from the respectability of the criminals,
and from the mysterious share which a certain Mrs.
Margaret Caroline Rudd, who was credited with irre-
sistible powers of fascination, had in the crime. This
was, of course, sufficient to make Boswell obtain an
introduction, and he gave such an account of the inter-
view as led Johnson to declare that he envied him his
acquaintance with her, and on another occasion be said
he should have visited her himself were it not that ' now
they have a trick of putting everything into the news-
papers.' The brothers were twins and greatly attached
to each other. They stood together, hand in hand, in
the fatal cart, and so remained for half a minute after
it had passed away from under them. Three years after-
wards Mrs. Rudd died in this square in very distressed
circumstances."
The affair excited much public interest, and
occasioned a large number of tracts and pamphlets,
of which a list occupies nearly two columns in
Bonn's ' Lowndes,' iii., 1833. Further particulars
will be found in the Gentleman's Magazine, xlv.
148, 278, 603 ; xlvi. 23, 44 ; and the * Annual
Register ' for 1775, pp. 222-233.
W. F. PRIDEAUX.
Kingsland, Shrewsbury.
Robert Perreau was "unfortunate," inasmuch
as he was hung with his twin brother Daniel for
forgery on Wednesday, 17 Jan., 1776. Their
trial made a sensation at the time, and a full
account of it is given in the ' Annual Register ' for
1775. Their execution may be said to have sealed
the fate of Dr. Dodd, as the king refused to respite
the latter, saying : " If I reprieve Dr. Dodd, I shall
be considered the murderer of the Perreau s."
H. S. V.-W.
" The case of the twin brothers Perreau in 1776 was
long the talk of the town. It evoked much public
sympathy, as they were deemed to be the dupes of a
certain Mrs. Rudd, who lived with Daniel Perreau, and
passed as his wife. Darnel was a man of reputed good
means, with a house in Harley Street, which he kept up
well. His brother, Robert Perreau, was a surgeon, en-
joying a large practice, and residing in Golden Square.
The forged deed was a bond for 7.500Z., purporting to be
signed by William Adair, a well-known agent. Daniel
Perreau handed this to Robert Drummond Perreau, who
carried it to the bank, when its validity was questioned,
and the brothers, with Mrs. Rudd, were arrested on sus-
picion of forgery. Daniel, on his trial, solemnly declared
that he bad received the instrument from Mrs. Rudd ;
Robert's defence was that he had no notion the document
was forged. Both were, however, convicted of knowingly
uttering the counterfeit bond. It was, however, found
impossible to prove Mrs. Rudd's complicity in the trans-
action, and she was acquitted. The general feeling was,
however, so strong that she was the guilty person, that
the unfortunate Perreaus became a centre of interest.
Strenuous efforts were made to obtain a reprieve for
them. Robert Perreau's wife went, in deep mourning,
accompanied by her three children, to sue for pardon on
their knees from the queen. Seventy-two leading bankers
and merchants signed a petition in his favour, which was
presented to the king two days before the execution.
But $11 to no purpose. Both brothers suffered the.
extreme penalty at Tyburn on the 17th January, 1776,
before an enormous multitude, estimated at 30,000. They
asserted their innocence to the last." — 'The Chronicles
of Newgate,' by Major Arthur Griffiths, Chapman &.
Hall, new edition, 1881, chap. xii. p. 310.
W. SKYES, M.D., F.S.A.
Gosport, Hants.
[Many replies to the same effect are acknowledged.]
HENRIETTA MARIA (8th S. xi. 128).— If J. T.,.
of Beckenham, will turn to Drake's { Hundred of
Blackheath/ p. 65 n., he will find that his black-
lefcter Book of Common Prayer is not peculiar
respecting Queen Mary. The 'Register of Baptisms
in Exeter Cathedral ' contains the following, viz. :
" Henrietta, daughter of our Sovereign Lord King
Charles and our gracious Queen Mary, was baptized
the 21 July, 1644." The queen at this time was
styled Mary, and her cavaliers, who had marched
with her to join the king at Oxford, would charge
shouting, " God for Queen Mary." T. J.
I have the first edition of the present service-
book, 1662, and in the litany the prayer for the
royal family is : " That it may please thee to bless
and preserve our gracious Queen Catherine, Mary
the Queen Mother, James Duke of York, and all
the Royal Family." JOSEPH BEARD.
Ealing.
I think J. T. will find that the wife of Charles I.
was always spoken of by the name of Mary only
in the issues of the Book of Common Prayer which
appeared during Charles's reign. In the edition
thereof of 1662, which was used for the sealed
copies, she is described as " Mary the Queen
Mother." I quote the reprint published by Joseph
Masters in 1848. EDWARD PEACOCK.
Miss Agnes Strickland, in her 'Lives of the
Queens of England,' vol. iv. p. 225, wrote, under
the year 1643 : " The word of the cavalier charge
was ' God for Queen Mary/ the name by which
Henrietta Maria was then known in England."
EVERARD HOME OOLEMAN.
71, Brecknock Road.
ARMY LISTS OP THE GREAT CIVIL WAR (8th
S. x. 456). — If your correspondent has access to
Sprite's ' Englands Recovery,' small folio, 1647,
he will find on pp. 325-31 a list of the officers of
Fairfax's army, containing about two hundred and
eighty names. RICHARD H. THORNTON.
Portland, Oregon.
GHOST-NAMES (8th S. xi. 64, 134).— It is possible
that I may be able to throw some light on the
source from which Knathia Sarah Maw, who,
C. C. B. tells us, lies buried in the churchyard of
Belton, in the Isle of Axholme, derived her name.
Your correspondent's communication has brought
to my mind a story which I heard my father tell
concerning Henry Dalton, of Knaith, near Gains-
borough-—Squire Dalton men called him. So
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universal was this that I believe very few persons
except those who received letters from him knew
his Christian name. Oo one occasion the squire
stood godfather for a daughter of one of his tenants ;
but when he offered to do so, he arranged that he
should select the name to be given in baptism.
When the godparents were standing around the
font, and the officiating minister asked the name
of the child, Mr. Dalton handed to him a slip of
paper on which was written the name Knathia.
Is it possible the person buried in Belton Church-
yard was this little baby ? She may have been a
daughter of hers, or some one who was called after
her. I do not know when Mr. Dalton died, but I
think about the year 1820. I am nearly sure that
he was dead in 1824, for I have good reason for
thinking that my grandfather, Thomas Peacock, was
at his friend's funeral, and he himself died in the
summer of that year. EDWARD PEACOCK.
Punstan House, Kirton-in-Lindsey.
THE LATIN LITANY (8th S. xi. 142). — Can
DR. SPARROW SIMPSON say whether the Latin
sermons preached before Convocation have been
published, especially the discourse delivered by
Ihe Hon. and Rev. Samuel Waldegrave in 1839 ?
EDWARD H. MARSHALL, M.A.
Hastings.
INSCRIPTION (8th S. xi. 88, 175).— MR. WAL-
•FORD'S attempted solution will scarcely pass. If
it were permissible to alter words, any inscription
could be made to mean anything we like. It is
very certain that the solution and meaning are not
those so confidently assumed by this correspondent.
PATRICK MAXWELL.
Bath.
THE CAUL, SILLY-HOW, OR SILLY-HOOD (8th S.
xi. 144).— Cauls are still advertised for sale. In
the Bazaar, Friday, 15 March, 1895, there ap-
peared the following announcement : " Medical.—
Child's caul for sale, price 51 or offers.— Address
Wilson, 1, Cromwell Terrace, Boulevard, Hull."
A week later, Friday, 22 March, another caul was
advertised in the same paper: "Child's caul for
•sale, price 11. or offers. Derbys.— 7384R." The
.figures followed by the letter R are the number of
the advertiser at the publishing office of the
Bazaar.
The Lincolnshire superstitions I have collected
on this subject differ on one point from those of
J. T. F. According to my informants, when a baby
is born with a caul, the caul should always be care-
fully preserved. It ensures luck to the person who
has possession of it as well as to the child. No one
who carries a caul with him can die by drowning.
Moreover, a caul will show the state of health of
its original owner, for while he is well it exhibits
no change from its ordinary condition, but let him
fall ill, and then it shrivels and shrinks together,
wizenin' .awaay to o'must nowt," an
quite in opposition to " It '11 go damp always if he
ails anything."
In Denmark the caul of a foal has also occult
properties. If a woman creep under one when it
is extended on four sticks she will escape the
pains of child-birth, but this exemption is bought
at the expense of her children's happiness, for her
sons will be were-wolves, and her daughters night-
hags. Cf. ' A Danish Parsonage,' p. 155.
Since writing the above note I have learnt the
following from M. H., a well-educated woman
of about thirty, who says she does not believe in
any superstition : —
" I was born with a caul over my face, like a veil ; but
it was lost, and could not be found again. They thought
that very likely the doctor took it to sell. Gauls are
sold, or used to be, especially to sea-captains. People
say no ship will ever sink which has one on board. When
I mentioned to an old woman at home that I had been
born with one, but that it was not kept, she told me I
should always be unlucky for want of it — not that I be-
lieve in such things myself, though I have had a good
many illnesses, so it is no wonder I am delicate. They say,
too, I shall be a wanderer; but I don't know that I have
gone about more than other people. The old woman
declared she should always make her son take his caul
about with him, to be safe, even if he was only going out
visiting. It could be kept in the leaves of a book. She
did say something about cauls withering up, but I forget
what it was, because I was laughing at her."
It is curious that " between the leaves of a book "
was spoken of as a secure place for preserving the
caul ; one would imagine it would be safer worn
as an amulet. Perhaps the book ought to be a
religious one. M. G. W. P.
THE USB OP HOLY WATER IN THE ANGLICAN
CHURCH (8th S. xi. 85, 158).— St. Alban's, Hoi-
born, may be the first Anglican church to introduce
the ceremonial use of holy water in the public
service ; but I remember that in 1872, just a
quarter of a century since, at the parish church of
Ardeley, in Hertfordshire, holy water was pro-
vided in a stoup at the entrance of the church, and
its use recommended to all worshippers. The
vicar, with whom I had the pleasure of staying
for a few days in the above year, was the late Rev.
Wm. Wyndham Malet, who was appointed to the
living by the Dean and Chapter of St. Paul's in
1843, and held it till his death on 12 June, 1885,
at the age of eighty-two. He was one of the best
parish priests I ever knew, a gentleman and a
scholar, with a great influence — exerted always in
the interest of piety and morality — over all his
parishioners. Besides the use of holy water, he
jsed to ring the Angelus bell at the appointed
aours every day throughout the year, as I recorded
in 'N. & Q.' in 1873 or 1874, when a correspond-
ence on the subject was going on. How long
before 1872 he had adopted these practices I can-
not say, but I believe for several years. Mr. Malet
was also one of the first in his neighbourhood to
revive the recitation of matins and evensong daily
8t S. XI, MAR. 20, '97. J
NOTES AND QUERIES.
235
in his church ; and when a petition was got up to
Convocation to sanction the use of a shortened
form at these services, he wrote, in reply to a re-
quest that he would sign it, that he would willingly
do so, aa he had himself adopted such a plan for
many years, and most of bis clerical neighbours
had so shortened their daily services that they had
come to have none at all. W. R. TATE.
Walpole Vicarage, Halesworth.
CHINESE FOLK-LORE (8th S. xi. 165).— With
reference to the note by MR. J. PLATT, Jan., on
this subject, I send the following extract from
* Thirty Years Ago ; or, Reminiscences of the
Early Days of Coffee-Planting in Ceylon/ by H. D.
Millie (Colombo, 1878) :—
" A very good way of finding the time is to examine
the eye of a cat. I became aware of this one day by
chance. The natives are quick at telling the ' time of
day,' by what means I do not know, unless by habit and
a sort of natural instinct. Any way, it used to be a
common practice in a matter-of-course way to a*k your
servant what o'clock it was, and one generally got a
pretty correct answer. When the sun was going down
he would measure his shadow, in fact make himself a
sort of temporary sun-dial. One cloudy day, on putting
the usual question, ' What o'clock is it ? ' there was no
reply, but immediately such a rushing and tumbling all
over the house commenced, with shouts of 4 Catch the
cat; master wants to know what's the clock.' On
demanding an explanation of this extraordinary pro-
ceeding, the cat was brought, and the true time of day
at once declared. It was then brought to my notice that
in the morning the pupil of the cat's eye was quite
round, gradually decreasing, until at noon it was a small
streak, just like a hair, after which it again enlarged
towards evening."
Mr. Millie was writing, I may say, of a period
fifty years ago. I am not aware whether the prac-
tice to which he alludes still survives in Ceylon.
DONALD FERGUSON.
6, Bedford Place, Croydon.
"LA2Y LAWRENCE" (8th S. xi. 189).— Miss
Edgeworth wrote a story entitled ' Lazy Lawrence,'
which can still be purchased, with * Simple Susan '
and several others, of Messrs. Warne ; but I do
not know if this is what is required, for there is no
reference to " of Lubberland " in it.
WM. H. PEET.
This individual was the hero of an Aldermary
Churchyard cbap*book, of which a description was
given by Mr. Halliwell in his ' Catalogue of Chap-
books, Garlands, and Popular Histories,' 1849,
p. 25. It was one of the most popular books of
its class, and was many times reprinted during the
last century. W. F. PRIDEAUX.
See ' Kentish Sayings/ 6th S. v. 266, 474 ; vi.
, 117, 299 ; and ' Lazy Lawrence/ 7'° S. xi. 4,
115, 212, 415, at which last reference MR. BIRK-
BECK TERRY refers to an old chap-book in his
possession, entitled "The History of Lawrence
Lazy, containing his Birth and Slothful Breeding ;
how he served the Schoolmaster, his Wife, the
Squire's Cook, and the Farmer, which, by the laws-
of Lubberland was accounted high treason."
CELER ET AUDAX.
HABERDASHER (Ist S. ii. 167, 253 ; v. 137, 402 ;
vi. 17, 111 ; x. 304, 415, 475 ; xi. 312; 3rd S. i.
385 ; xii. 102 ; 4tn S. viii. 145, 270 ; x. 304 ; 6th
S. x. 286 ; 8th S. x. 520).— Whence does Riley
get his information as to the texture of hapertas ?
He gives no authority ; and his definition strikingly
resembles the traditional one of haberject. The
mention of the latter (along with " dyed cloths and
russets ") in Henry III.'s confirmation of Magna
Carta suggests its being of native manufacture ;
while hapertas was clearly made abroad. To
trace haberdasher to hapertas was, at the date of
Riley's 'Glossary' (1862), to explain notum per
ignotum; but I cannot but believe that one of the
many English and Anglo-French books published
during a generation must contain the word hapertast
and that inquiry in your columns will elicit the
reference, and give a distinct clue to its meaning;
and derivation. Q. V.
Oxford.
"FEER AND FLET" (8th S. x. 76, 166, 339;.
422 ; xi. 17, 113, 175).— A full account of this'
phrase is to be found in the 'New English
Dictionary' (s.v. "Flet"). It is there stated!
that "fire and flet" is an expression very fre-
quently occurring in wills of the sixteenth cen-
tury, with the meaning "fire and house-room."
A quotation is given from a will, dated 1539,
" My wife to have fyre and fleete in my haule
and kechin." Flet in the sense of " house, home,"
is very common in law phrases in Old English, in
Old Frisian, and in Icelandic. Ducange (s.v.
" Flet ") cites a passage from ' Leges Burgorum
Scotic.,' cap. 25, § 2 : —
"Salvo hoc quod uxor ejusdetn defuncti desponsata,.
tota vita sua, quandiu erit vidua, interiorem partem^
domus capitalis, quae dicitur Flet, tenebit."
A. L. MAYHEW.
Oxford.
Although agreeing with your correspondent MR:.
BIRKBECK TERRY'S interpretation of these terms,.
I may state that in the probate of a will dated
1587 I have met with the word "Ferry " (alluding;
to one over the river Severn), spelt Ferey.
W. I. R. V.
CASSITER STREET, BODMIN (8th S. x. 514). —
It would be interesting to know in what language-
this name means "Woodland Street." Certainly
not in Cornish. JOHN HOBSON MATTHEWS.
Town Hall, Cardiff.
STAFFORD O'BRIAN AND DANIEL RICKETSON'
(8th S. x. 517). — For a note on a play written by
Lord Houghton and Stafford 0' Brian, entitled
' A Knock at the Door ; or, Worsted works
236
NOTES AND QUERIES.
. MAR. 20/97.
Wonders,' which was acted at Castle Ashby,
2 January, 1846, see « N. & Q.,' 7th S. xi. 105.
EVERARD HOME COLEMAN.
71, Brecknock Road.
" INVULTATION " (8th S. xi. 107).— For a dic-
tionary see Hofman'a ' Lex. Univ.,' s. v. " Invul-
tatio," with reference to "Vultus." Ducange
(abridgment by Maigne d'Arnis), has : —
" Invultare. — Vultum effingere ; donner une forme
(Mart. Viet.). De iia dicetur qui ad artes magicas causa
alicui docendi (cor. nocendi) confugiunt: envotiter
(A. 1371)."
Also : —
' Vultivoli. — Tncantatorum species, sorte d'enchanteurs,
envoilteurs. L'espece d'enchantement mis en pratique
par cette classe de pretendus magiciens, consistait a
figurer en cire raolle celui qu'on voulait enchanter, et a
enfoncer des e"pingles dans 1'image obtenue."
The complete edition will, of course, contain
many more particulars, specially Hofman states : —
" Sic Joannam Reginam, Pbilippi Pulchri Galliae
Regia uxorem, a Guicbardo, episcopo Trecensi, iuvul-
tatam eese, et hac invultafeione periisse, testes quosdam
asseverasse, refert Car. du Freene, ' Glossar.' "
John of Salisbury, 'De Nugis Curialium,' 1. i.
c. xii., in a chapter concerning various forms of
enchantment, notices the vultivoli.
From the frequent notice in classical writers, I
presume that there will be some reference to this
form of magic in Smith's ' Classical Dictionary.'
ED. MARSHALL.
Ducange's ' Glossarium ' has, " Invultare, Ivul-
tuare, Vultum effingere." Also, " Invultuor,
Praestigiator, qui ad artes magicas vultus effingit";
and " Invultus, Invultuorum prsestigise." Vul-
tivoli is explained as "qui ad affectus hominum
immutandos, in molliori materia, cera forte vel
lima, eorum, quos pervertere nituntur, effigies
exprimunt."
There is an apt quotation s. " Vultivoli " from
Ovid's * Hero ides ': —
Devovet absentes, eimulacraque cerea fingit,
Et miseruin tenues in jecur urget acus.
Cf. also vultuarius and vultuare.
Lenormant, in 'Chaldean Magic,' gives the
following formula, from an Accadian incantation :
" He who forges images, he who bewitches, the male-
volent aspect, the evil eye, the malevolent inoutb, the
malevolent tongue, the malevolent lip, the finest sorcery,
Spirit of the heavens, conjure it ! Spirit of the earth,
conjure it ! "— Ch. i. p. 5.
F. C. BIRKBECK TERRY.
'MALLY LEE' (8th S. x. 336).— This query,
which does not appear to have been answered, is
recalled to my mind by the occurrence of a stanza
from the song referred to in an article on Mr.
Henley's new edition of Burns, in the Saturday
Review for 6 March, where it is stated that the
date of the song is " about 1746." The stanza
quoted runs thus : —
The trooper turned himself about,
And on the Irish shore
He has given the bridle reins a shake,
Saying, " Adieu for evermore,
My dear,
Adieu for evermore."
In Burns's ' Farewell ' (tune, "It was a' for our
rightfu' king") this stanza reappears, slightly
altered : —
He turn'd him right, and round about,
Upon the Irish shore ;
And gae his bridle-reins a shake,
With adieu for evermore,
My dear ;
With adieu for evermore.
In the " Aldine" edition of Burns there is this
note to the poem : " It seems very doubtful how
much, even if any part of this song was written
by Burns. It occurs in the * Musical Museum,'
p. 513, but not with his name." It is scarcely
necessary to add that the verse quoted occurs,
again slightly altered, in one of the songs in Scott's
'Rokeby':—
He turn'd his charger as he spake
Upon the river shore,
He gave the bridle-reins a shake,
Said, " Adieu for everm >re
My Love !
And adieu for evermore. ' '
It would be interesting to know who is the author
of a song that has thus haunted two famous poets.
Perhaps Mr. Henley gives his name. Will some
one kindly say ? C. C. B.
LANDGUARD FORT, SUFFOLK (8td S. x. 515;
xi. 35, 96). — In the list of governors of the above
fort is Capt. Nathaniel Darell, in 1667. This
officer was Lieutenant-governor of Guernsey from
1661 to 1664. His father, also a Nathaniel
Darell, had held the same office some forty years
earlier, and in 1624 married Anne de Beauvoir,
of this island. G. E. LEE.
Guernsey.
MA.TOR J. H. LESLIE will find some historical
information about Landguard Fort in the ' Suffolk
Directory.' In the edition for 1855 it is stated
that the first fort was built "about the beginning
of the reign of Charles I.," and had four bastions,
called the King's, Queen's, Warwick's, and Hol-
land's, each mounting fifteen large guns. Murray's
* Eastern Counties,' 1892 (not a trustworthy book)
says the fort was built " in the reign of James I.,"
whereas the present fort was constructed in 1718.
JAMES HOOPER.
Norwich.
In Kirby's ' Suffolk Traveller ' occurs the follow-
ing passage, referring to the chapel in Landguard
fort :—
" It appears by the Register of the Bishop of Norwich
that the chapel of the old Fort was consecrated 7 Sep-
tember, 1628, by the Bishop of Norwich, as lying within
his jurisdiction."
8t!lS. XI. MAR. 20, '97.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
237
The registrar of the diocese writes : —
"Bishop Samuel Harsnett waa Bishop of Norwich
from 1614 to 1628. I have searched carefully through
the Register of his Acts, and find no mention whatever
made by him of a chapel in Landguard Fort."
Can any one throw light on the above differences ?
It is beyond all doubt that there was a chapel in
the fort,
Information of any description is asked for about
any of the following, who were, in the years stated
against their names, governors of this fort : —
1711. Gwyn Vaughan.
1718. Capt. Bacon Maurice.
1744. Mordaunt Cracherode.
1753. Lord George Beauclerck.
1769. Lieut. -General Robert Armiger, colonel
of the 40th Regiment.
1771. Lieut. -General Sir John Clavering, K.B.,
colonel of the 52nd Foot.
1776. Lieut. -General Sir A. Mackay, colonel of
the 21st Foot.
1789. Major-General Harry Trelawny.
1800. Lieut. -General David Dundas.
1801. Lieut.-General Cavendish Lister.
J. H. LESLIE, Major R.A.
Manor End, Felixstowe.
" SCOT " AS A HORSE'S NAME (8th S. xi. 46).—
In November last I asked in the ' Notes and
Queries ' column of the Norfolk Chronicle if the
name Scot for horses was still in use in Norfolk, as
in the time of Chaucer's Reeve. I annex the
reply, which appeared in the Norfolk Chronicle of
December 5 last, which may interest PROF. SKEAT.
"Mr. James Hooper, in his quotations from the
Canterbury Tales ' and the annotated edition of Bell's
Chaucer,' has done good service in directing attention
to a fact that had almost been lost sight of. The name
' Scot ' is undoubtedly still in common use for farm horses
in Norfolk and Suffolk. 1 will not go so far as to say that
there is scarcely a farm in the counties named in which one
of the horses is not called • Scot,' but there are a great
many farms where * Scots ' may be found. At several of
the agricultural sales last Michaelmas the name appeared
in the catalogues. Writing from memory, I believe that
a ' Scot ' was disposed of at Mr. Binder's sale at Bow-
thorpe; and as recently as 21 November, among the cart
horses and colts sold at Messrs. Spelman's Norwich horse
sale, a bay mare named ' Scot ' waa among the lots
iffered. Mr. Hooper has not asked why the name has
been so popular with Norfolk people for so long a time ;
had he done BO I should not have been able to answer
that question. — FARMER."
JAMES HOOPER.
Norwich.
At p. 638 of the Century for February, 1889
'vol. xxxvii. No. 4), considerable prominence is
given to the name " Scott " (sic), as that of a mule
taking part in the performance of a negro musical
pastoral : " Loos' Mule. Hong-g-g-kee ! Hong-
g-g-kee !— honk !— erhonk !— erhonk !— erhonk ! "
3e is first admonished to " Git up Scott ! " and
finally, having apparently lashed out at his driver
on being turned " loos'," imprecated, in large caps.,
with : " Whoa Scott ! ! ! Mule, ef dem heels had er
hit me, I 'd er bust yo' wide opun wid er rock !
Dern er fool, anyhow ! " THOMAS J. JEAKES.
LETTER FROM ELIZABETH, LADT HARVEY, TO
HER FATHER (8th S. xi. 106) —Although MR.
CHAS. WISE'S communication as above might have
had a better heading, suggestive of the subject of
this interesting epistle, he has done good service
in making the latter public, throwing as it does
some light on the unhappy relations which existed
between Thomas, second Earl of Stamford, and his
first wife — a subject hitherto involved in much
confusion and doubt, both as to the persons and
the circumstances, and upon which, not very long
since, I had some correspondence with my friend
G. E. 0. in connexion with his ' Complete Peer-
age,' now happily closely approaching completion.
It has long been a vexed question whether these
matrimonial differences were with the first or the
second wife, and consequently as to the author of
the fire at the earl's Leicestershire seat. This
confusion was in a great measure due as well to
the absence as to the incorrectness of certain dates,
and the other inaccuracies in the statements of
those who have attempted to deal with the sub-
ject. Nichols, as quoted by your correspondent
from the * History of Leicestershire,' has, by reason
of the date he assigns to the incident, attributed
the origin of the Bradgate House conflagration to
the second wife, although from the context he
evidently (and rightly) intended otherwise. The
Rev. J. Curtis, in his ' Topographical History * of
the same county (1831), as well as Throsby,
whom he quotes, gives an almost entirely different
version of the matter, as follows : —
"[Bradgate House] was built in the early part of the
sixteenth century by Thomas, Lord Grey, second Marquis
of Dorset, and was occupied by his descendants as their
chief seat until the beginning of the last century, when,
according to a tradition in the neighbourhood, it was
set on fire by the wife of the Earl of Suffolk at the
instigation of her sister. The story is thus told by
Throsby : ' Some time after the Earl had married, he
brought his lady to his seat at Bradgate ; her sister
wrote to her desiring to know how she liked her habita-
tion and the country she was in. The Countess of Suffolk
wrote for answer, " that the house was tolerable ; that
the country was a forest, and the inhabitants all brutes."
The sister in consequence, by letter, desired her " to set
fire to the house and run away by the light of it."
The second Earl of Stamford married, first, in
1674, or more probably in the spring of 1675,
Elizabeth, eldest daughter of Sir Daniel Harvey,
of Combe-Nevill, in Kingston, co. Surrey, Knt.,
Ambassador to Turkey (who died there August,
1672, cet. 41), by his wife Elizabeth, only
daughter of Edward, second Lord Montagu of
Boughton,in Weekley, co. Northampton. She was
born probably c. September, 1656, and appears to
have been a remarkably handsome woman. There
338
NOTES AND QUERIES. [8«s.xi.MAR.2o,-97.
are portraits of her, engraved respectively by
Thompson after Lely, and (in mezzotint) byBecket
after Wissing. In a satire in verse, entitled ' The
Ladies' March,' and dated 16 Feb., 1681, contained
in a 4to. volume, being a MS. collection of poems,
songs, &c., by the witty writers of Charles II. 's
reign, she is thus noticed : —
Stamford's Countess led the van
Tallest of the caravan
She who nere wants white or red*
Nor just pretence to keep her bed.f
According to a letter from James FraserJ to Sir
Robert Southwell at King's Weston, co. Gloucester,
dated 8 Sept., 1687, the countess was buried the
previous night. She appears to have had two
sons and a daughter Diana, all of whom died
young. Segar ('Bar. Gen.,' ed. Edmondson),
however, incorrectly assigns the latter to the earl's
second wife.
He married, secondly, c. March, 1690/1, Mary,
second daughter and coheir of Joseph Maynard, of
Gunnersbury, co. Middlesex, Esq., who survived
him, and died at her house in Great Russell Street,
Bloomsbury, same county, 10 Nov., 1722, aged
fifty-one, and was buried with her said husband
(who died 31 Jan., 1719/20, aged sixty-seven), at
Bradgate with M. I. She left no issue surviving,
but is stated by Nichols to have had a son, born
(23 Dec.), 1696, who died in infancy.
Lady Elizabeth Harvey, the author of the letter
as above, survived her husband about thirty years,
and was buried in the vault of Sir Ralph Win-
wood at St. Bartholomew's-the-Less, London,
16 July, 1702.
I may add that the important words so pro-
vokingly wanting in the transcript of this letter,
through a defect in the original, appear to be
;t anxious" and "cancelled." The word "pay"
therein is possibly a misreading of " Gray."
W. I. R. V.
^ THE LAPWING AS A WATER-DISCOVERER (8th S.
xi. 48). — The ** legend " about which your corre-
spondent makes inquiry was known to Thomas
Moore, for in < The Light of the Haram,' which
forms a part of 'Laila Rookb,' towards the end, is
the following stanza from Nourmahal's song to
Selim : —
Come, if the love thou hast for me
Is pure and fresh as mine for thee,—
Fresh as the fountain under ground,
When first 'tis by the lapwing found.
A note explains : " The hudhud, or lapwing, is
supposed to have the power of discovering water
under ground." These words so closely correspond
* Alluding to her complexion.
t If, as seems likely, this refers to her being frequently
enceinte, it would imply that there had been cohabitation
between husband and wife probably up to this date.
J A staunch royalist, who held some situation in the
Court of James II.
with Dr. Brewer's, quoted from the * Dictionary of
Phrase and Fable,' as to point to the original source
of Dr. Brewer's statement. My copy of Moore's
* Poems ' is published by W. P. Nimmo, but is not
dated. F. C. BIRKBECK TERRY.
In that remarkable Oriental poem or romance
Tom Moore's 'Lalla Rookh,' published in 1817,
I find :-
Come, if the love thou hast for me
Is pure and fresh aa mine for thee, —
Fresh as the fountain under ground,
When first 'tis by the lapwing found.
To this verse the following note is appended : "The
hudhud, or lapwing, is supposed to have the power
of discovering water under ground " (edition 1841,
vii. 53). EVERARD HOME COLEMAN.
71, Brecknock Road.
I think the hudhud is generally identified with
the hoopoe. Freytag gives it as lepupa. In the
' Arabic Legends of King Solomon ' both he and
the Queen of Sheba are represented as each having
a hudhud for water-discovering purposes, and the
birds play a considerable part in the story.
J. M. HEALD.
MIRACLE PLAY (8th S. x. 276, 364, 422).— See
also Karl Hase's book on the subject, a translation
of which was published by Triibn?r some fifteen
years ago. Q. V.
GEORGE MORLAND, SENIOR (8tn S. xi. 8, 74,
147). — This question grows complicated. I had
carefully compared photographs of the pictures of
the two laundry girls exhibited in 1867 with the
pictures now in the National Gallery, and could
detect no difference. Two correspondents, how-
ever, state that they are still in the possession of
Lord Mansfield. So there must be replicas of;
both pictures in addition to the pictures about
which the correspondence originated. The in-
genious suggestion that the pictures should be
described as the Miss Gunnings when sent to the
exhibition of 1867, and thus secure admission,
which might otherwise have been denied them, was
somewhat belated if they were thus described
when purchased by Lord Mansfield.
KlLLIGREW.
JOHN ANDRE (8th S. xi. 8,56,192).— John Andre,
son of Anthony Andre" and Marie Louise Girardot,
was of a most respectable family from Nismes,
never known — and herein much distinguished from
the Girardots, who rejoiced in territorial aliases
innumerable — by any other than their nom de
famille. His great-grandfather, a merchant and
banker of Nismes, Jean Andre" (1651-1739), was
married the year before the Revocation of the
Edict of Nantes. He himself was born before the
centennial anniverary of this ancestor's birth had
come round, not in 1751, but on 2 May, 1750, and
was baptized at the French Church of St. Martin
8». s. xi. MAE. 20,
NOTES AND QUERIES.
239
Orgars, on 16 May. It would have been un-
necessary to supplement the reference, suggested
at p. 56, to Col. Chester's invaluable ' Westminster
Abbey Registers,' for his condensed notice of this
family, were it not that when he penned it the
precise time and place of John Andre's birth and
baptism had not been ascertained. H. W.
SIR MICHAEL COSTA (8th S. xi. 129, 211).— Mr.
Michael Costa was elected a member of the Royal
Society of Musicians of Great Britain in November,
1847, and signed the roll of membership on 5 Dec.
following. His signature is " Michael Andrew
Agnus Costa." From his nomination paper, and an
affidavit sworn at Bow Street Police Court by his
brother Raphael Costa, we learn that Michael
was born at Naples on 4 Feb., 1808.
W. H. CUMMINGS.
DOUGLAS JERROLD'S DRAMATIC WORKS (8t!l S.
xi. 21, 211). — Of course John Poole was the author
of 'Paul Pry'; but Douglas Jerrold also wrote a
two-act comedy under the same title, and it was
produced at the Coburg Theatre by Davidge in
1826 or 1827. In 1821 Jerrold produced a sketch
at the Coburg also, called * Peter Paul,' the name-
part being that of an inquisitive individual like
Paul Pry. Poole's play was first produced at the
Hay market 13 Sept., 1825. The characters of the
two Paul Prys are very much alike, but the plots of
the plays are different. S. J. A. F.
GAMBARDELLA (8tb S. xi. 187). — I am not
certain, but I believe that the eminent artist
Spiridioni Gambardella is now living near Naples,
and that be was born in the year 1815.
W. L. RUSHTON.
NOTES ON BOOKS, &c.
A Warwickshire Word-Book. By G. F. Northall.
(Frowde.)
Two Collections of Derbicitms. By S. Pegge. Edited
by Prof. Skeat and T. Hallam. (Same publisher.)
Lakeland and Iceland. By Rev. T. Ell wood. (Same
publisher.)
A Bibliographical List of Works illustrative of the
Dialect of Northumberland. By R. Oliver Heslop.
(Same publisher.)
WITH these four issues the work of the English Dialect
Society is brought to a close. No more glossaries are to
be printed. It now remains for the eighty distinct
works which it has produced to be digested, codified,
and condensed, along with the immense mass of illus-
trative matter independently acquired, into the one
great consummating work which is now in progress—
the ' English Dialect Dictionary.' All the support,
pecuniary and otherwise, given to the pioneer society
t is hoped will now be transferred to this larger object.
Prof. Skeat is entitled to look back with legitimate
pride and satisfaction on the success achieved by the
Society which he inaugurated, and which but for his
enthusiasm and public spirit would never have main-
tained during a period of twenty-three years such a
constant supply of invaluable material for the finished
building. " Exegi monumentum,' he may fairly say,
"are perennius."
It is once more made evident by these final issues that
the work of garnering our folk-speech was undertaken
not a day too soon. Mr. Hallam, whose death before
the publication of these volumes was a severe loss to
the cause of phonetics, tells us that of the Derbyshire
words collected little more than a century ago by Dr
Pegge in one parish, he found on going carefully over
the same ground quite one-third were altogether for-
gotten by the present inhabitants. Mr. Northall baa
the same tale to tell as regards Warwickshire. Many
of the good old words once current are to-day obso-
lescent, and we may safely say in another generation
will be obsolete. It is interesting, however, to find that
a good proportion of Shakspeare's words which puzzle
the general reader are still remembered and used by the
peasantry of his native county. Thus " blood-boltered
Banquo " is explained by baiter, to clot or cohere • deck
is still a pack of cards, as in « 3 Hen. VI.,' V. i. 44 • fet
is still to fetch, as in "fet from fathers of war-pro'of "
('Hen. V.,' III. i. 17); old survives in the sense of
plentiful, abundant, as in Portia's " old swearing"
('Merch. of Ven.,' IV. i. 15); the dowle (or down)
which fledged Ariel's plume (< Temp.,' III. iii. 65) to-day
clothes the Warwickshire goslings; and a quat (pustule
or sore) is still angry when rubbed, as in ' Othello '
I T 1 T> .. H * _. x? . • i 1 1 • • . « 9
^ •• v uvC'iiix/C'. IAI
ingrain or begrime. It stands for dit, a i-lur of do it, as
in an old drinking formula, quoted somewhere by Cot-
grave, muskiditee for " much-good-do-it-t'ye." Heigth
(s.v. H), again, is not incorrect, but the old classical
form highth, used by Milton and others. Picksmff, a
paltry, contemptible person, if a true dialect word, must
be godfather to one of Dickens's best-known creations.
Dr. Pegge's collections of Derbyshire words have the
advantage of being edited by Prof. Skeat himself from
a MS. in his possession formerly belonging to Sir F.
Madden, and he very wisely suppresses the most
outrageously fantastical of the old doctor's etymological
speculations. Diesman's Day, formerly in use for Inno-
cents' Day, is new to us, and suggestive of daysman, if,
indeed, it be not dismal. Remedy, which we thought
peculiar to Winchester School, was, it seems, formerly
in Derbyshire use for a schoolboy's holiday. The
specific meaning of " in the evening," attributed to
belive, by-and-by, which Prof. Skeat considers doubtful
he may remember is closely paralleled by the old use of
soon as "ad primam vesperam," according to Gil.
Mr. Ellwood's ' Lakeland and Iceland ' is a glossary
of Cumberland, Westmoreland, and North Lancashire
words which have affinities with the Old Norse, and
these he ingeniously traces out. In attermite, for
instance, a Westmoreland term for one who resembles
his parents, he clears up a word which escaped the
acumen of the editor of the 'Dialect Dictionary.' It is
the Icelandic cettar-mot, a family likeness (Cleasby, 760),
and has nothing to do with a poisonous insect (after-
mite).
Mr. Heslop's very complete list of books which bear
on the Northumbrian folk-speech evinces the intimate
knowledge of a specialist.
With hearty recognition of the good work done by the
Dialect Society, we now bid it a grateful farewell.
Sacramentarium Leonianum. Edited by C. L. Feltoe B.D.
(Cambridge, University Press.)
MR. FELTOE'S edition of this ancient Latin prayer-book
is a worthy companion to Mr. Wilson's ' Gelasian Sacra -
mentary,' which we noticed two years agv. Tiio "Leo-
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nine " sacramentary. named eo from its having at one time
been attributed to Leo the Great, is really of uncertain
authorship. It is a collection from various sources of
" preface?," collect?, and prayers, redacted and arranged
according to the Kalendar. Gerbert was of opinion that
it was made by some private person, probably at Rome,
for his own use, and Mr. Feltoe ia inclined to agree with
him. The MS. of the work is preserved in the Chapter
Library at Verona, and is considered by experts to belong
to the first part of the seventh century, though many
of the prayers introduced of course belong to an earlier
date. It was first printed by Joseph Bianchini in 1735,
and subsequently by Muratori, Ballerini, Migne, and
Assemani; but Mr. Feltoe haa taken most conscientious
pains to obtain a thoroughly accurate text, and twice
visited Verona for the purpose of collating the original
exemplar. He has also supplied a general introduction,
foot-notes dealing with variations of lection, and a useful
apparatus of comments explaining the more difficult
allusions, and adducing parallels from other sacra-
mentaries and missals. We wish he had carried his
editing a step further, to the extent of supplying some
punctuation. An involved Latin sentence of a dozen
lines — and there are many such— without so much as
a friendly comma to relieve its monotonous length,
fatigues the eye and overtaxes the attention.
Among matters of general interest is an apparent
reference to an early belief that the bodies of St. John
and St. Paul were buried in the catacombs, occurring
in a prayer which speaks of " the victorious members "
of those saints as hidden "in the very bowels of the
city " ("in ipsis visceribus civitatis,"p. 34). The ancient
custom of giving milk and honey to the newly baptized,
as a token of their mystical admission into the promised
land, is here still observed (p. 25). Mr. Feltoe brings
together a large number of instances where the Biblical
quotations seem to be taken from an earlier version than
the Vulgate — unless, indeed, these are independent
translations made by the compiler himself. Enough haa
been said to show that this carefully edited book will be
of great interest to all students of liturgical antiquities.
Three photographs are given of the Verona MS.
Letters, Archaeological and Historical, relating to the Isle
of Wight. By the Rev. E. Boucher James. 2 vols.
(Frowde.)
WHEN Mr. James resigned his fellowship at Queen's
College, Oxford, for the college living of Carisbrooke, in
1858, he threw himself with characteristic energy into
the study of his new surroundings, and found never-
failing subjects of interest in his island home. From
that time till his decease, in 1892, not a year seems to
have passsed without his contributing to the local press a
series of letters on matters of permanent literary import-
ance. That they vary in value is only what might be
expected ; but many are scholarly essays and historical
disquisitions, exhibiting no small amount of research.
Whatever be the questions that engaged Mr. James's
attention — whether they were biographical, ecclesiastical,
hagiological, philological, genealogical, or antiquarian,
provided only they had something to do with the Isle of
Wight— nothing came amiss to his prolific pen ; streams
of miscellaneous erudition germane to the matter poured
forth from his well-stored mind. It was enough that
any worthy, at any time, or in any wise, had ever come
into connexion with the favoured isle, by visiting it or
sojourning there, it gave the author occasion to produce
an interesting, and often an original chapter on his
career. What a wide field these occasional papers range
over, and how diversified are their contents, may be
judged from a few of the subjects with which they deal
— the came of the island (traced to Welsh gwyth, a
channel) ; the Roman villa at Carisbrooke ; St. Wilfrid,
the apostle of the island ; St. Urian (a little-known saint,
on whom some new light is thrown) ; St. Rhadigund
(the accomplished child bride of King Clothaire) ; Sir
John Cheke ; Dr. Edes (a dramatist contemporary with
Shakspeare) ; the Order of the Garter (as to which the
old story anent the Countess of Salisbury is discoun-
tenanced); May Day in the sixteenth century; Christ-
mas in Carisbrooke Castle, 1606; and an interesting
notice of Alexander Ross, himself once vicar of Caris-
brooke. Upwards of a hundred pages are devoted to the
royal martyr and his imprisonment here, with some
curious particulars about the plots and counter-plots to
which it gave rise. In these William Lilly, the astrologer,
to whom two letters are given, is shown to have borne
a discreditable part. Among other forgotten matters
brought to light is the curious fact that the isle could
once boast a king of its own, the sovereignty of it having
been transferred for a brief period to Henry Beauchamp,
Earl of Warwick, by the weak Henry VI. in 1445. The
letters have been collected and edited by the widow of
the writer, and are grouped in chronological sequence
under the centuries to which they refer. We cannot
but think that if they had been somewhat condensed
and recast they would have gained in value, as the pro-
verbial dimidium is better than the totum, which, in
this case, mounts up to the liberal sum of 1400 pages.
The Hidden Lives of Shakespeare and Bacon. By W. G.
Thorpe, F.S.A. (Privately printed.)
THIS work reaches us with the valued recommendation
of our friend Mr. Sam Timmins. None the less, we
dislike it much, and wish it had never been issued. Mr.
Thorpe's effort is to show a close and degrading business
connexion between Shakspeare and Bacon. This he
bases on wild conjecture. Had his theory, instead of
being a mere figment, been supported by proof, we should
still have grieved to see it given to the world. It is, in
our thinking, an offence to humanity needlessly to belittle
those whom the world esteems great, and we hold that
there are things which, even if true, should not be
named. For Mr. Thorpe's arguments and statements
we give a "fico." Of the general spirit of the book
enough is said when we state that the author speaks of
Queen Elizabeth as " the vain old hag of sixty."
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CONTENTS.— N° 274.
NOTES :— Escallop-shell, 241— Casanoviana, 242 — Lilies of
the Valley— ' Untrodden Ways' — "Cawd for nowt but
iverrything "— " A large order"— Canon Bllerton, 245—
Dr. Beaumont—" Gite"— " Under the weather"—" Swell
ness "—Evil Bye— Epitaph : Berry— Egg-berry, 246.
QUERIES:— "By"— "Handicap"— "Harbour": "Arbour"
— 'II Penseroso ' — " Bugalug " — Blanckenhagen, 247 —
Hilaire, Countess Nelson— The Nordhaven— Ed. Button,
Earl Dudley— "A day's work of land"— Cherry Blossom
Festival— Breton Folk-music— Best Ghost Story— Napoleon
on the Bellerophon— Gost House— "Your Worship" and
"Your Honour" — James Graham, Lord Easdale, 248 —
Calendar Letters— Wilkes— Music to " Lead, kindly Light"
— Ploughwoman— Record of Church of England Clergy-
Authors Wanted, 249.
REPLIES:— Sir A. Sherley and Shakspeare, 249— Gaule's
' Mag-astro-mancer' — " Cast for death " — Modern Jacobite
Movement— Squire's Coffee-House, 250—" Came in with
the Conqueror "—Literary Blunder— Bishops' Wigs— Bap-
tisteries, 251—" Come, let us be merry "—Sir M. Costa-
Exploded Tradition— Author Wanted, 252— Divining Rod
—Tapestries from Raphael Cartoons— Cartwright's ' Royal
glave ' — " Dear knows "—John, Second Baron Robartes —
" Eye-rhymes," 253 — Pearls— Peacock Feathers — Wayz-
goose— Abergavenny Registers— Midsummer Fires, 254—
" Bechatted"— Classon— Brighton— " Fighting like devils,"
&c.— Scott's ' Old Mortality '— Haddon Hall, 255— Carrick
— Shelta, 256 — Fullerton — Owen Brigstocke — Horace,
•Sat.' I. v. 100— White's Sonnet, 257— Bevis de Hampton
—Rev. Wm. Oldys, 258— French Prisoners of War— Incident
in Sicily — Grote Manuscripts — " Handmaid "—Authors
Wanted, 259.
NOTES ON BOOKS :— Maitland's 'Domesday Book and
Beyond ' — Macalister's ' Ecclesiastical Vestments ' — Du
Bois's ' Suppression of Slave Trade.'
Notices to Correspondents.
fjtoles,
ESCALLOP-SHELL.
(See 8'h S. iv. 368, 536.)
Further notices of the mystic escallop-shell
show some interesting instances of it used as an
emblem and an ornament over a wide area and a
long period.
At Caesarea Philippi, in North Palestine, is a
sculptured niche in the rock over the cave con-
taining the source of the Jordan, with a shell-
shaped roof, dedicated to Pan. Other niches
with shell roofs contained images of the city
deities. This seems to be the origin of the shell
door -covers once common in Georgian town
houses. The shell was formerly used at baptisms :
one is in the baptistry of St. Bartholomew, Smith-
field ; another is used at All Souls', Hastings. In
the etching of the ' Baptism in the Jordan ' by
II Bolognese (d. 1680) John pours the water from
a scallop. On the large marble font in the Pistoia
baptistry is a life-sized group of the baptism in
Jordan, where John uses a shell. And here we
find the scallop as a religious emblem at the head
of the Jordan.
Coins of Hipane, Sicily (B.C. 480), of Cumse
(B.C. 500), of Ardea, Tibur, of Pinna (B.C. 289),
bear the scallop (Head, ' Hist. Num.').
When Glaucus made love to Scylla he gave her
a shell from the Red Sea (Ovid). Keats mentions
this myth (Harrison, * Myths of the Odyssey,'
p. 211).
A sacred ornamented shell is in the second Vase
Room in the British Museum, having been found
at Oanino, in Etruria.
A similar shell is in the Egyptian Boom, British
Museum, from Bethlehem.
A Roman as and quadrans each bearing a shell
are mentioned by Montfaucon, 'Antiq. Expliq.,'
ii. 91 ; sup. iii. 45-6).
A Roman sculpture exhibits three nymphs of
Diana each holding a shell at her girdle, thus
showing the mystic connexion between Diana and
Venus (Montfaucon, ii. 220).
A Roman cippus of 0. T. Tyrannus bears his
bust in a shell (Montfaucon, v. 1).
A great marble conch-shell forms the roof of
the shrine in Cordova Cathedral (Elliot, ' Spain/
• • A •< \
11. 41).
Heriot, the court jeweller, formed for the queen,
in 1607, a ring in the form of a scallop, set with a
diamond, and opening on the head ('Life of
Heriot,' p. 219).
In Salamanca is a singular old Gothic mansion
called the Shell House, being sprinkled on the
outside with scallops in stone (Argosy, No. .561,
p. 721).
On the dormer windows of the Cluny Museum,
Paris, are scallops in stone of the fourteenth century
(Cassell's * Old and New Paris,' part xv. p. 81).
On a tomb in the Roman Catholic Cemetery,
Teignmouth, Devon, are well sculptured four
scallops.
At St. Peter's, Rome, are white marble scallop
holy-water stoups.
A scallop-shaped piscina is in York Minster.
An old mirror at Hastings, above a fireplace,
bears a large scallop in the centre.
At a wayside prayer - station in Italy was
noticed a stone, having a scallop over "I.H.S."
sculptured on it.
In the South Kensington Museum is a monu-
ment to a French nobleman, wearing a scallop
collar of the sixteenth century ; there is also an
organ-screen from a church, the top of each niche
being a scallop (? fourteenth century) ; and in the
Jones Collection is a marble Venus seated in a
shell.
Canonbury Tower, Islington, has a lower loom
panelled and ornamented with scallops, circ.
1509, in oak, finely carved (Thornbury, 'London,'
ii. 272).
The gateway of St. John's Priory, Clerkenwell,
temp. Edward I., was formerly ornamented with
scallops in stone. They were discovered in 1846,
and are now in the South Kensington Museum
(Thornbury, • London,' ii. 319).
Shells are carved on the panels of the mansion
in Hart Street, Crutched Friars, temp. Henry VJII.
(Smith, 'Ancient London,' 1810).
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Buckingham Gate, on the Embankment, is
crowned with a large scallop, and smaller ones
adorn the panels, evidently referring to those in
the arms on the gate.
In connexion with the scallop niche to Pan at the
Jordan source, at the site of the ancient city of
Dan, it may be noticed that in the South London
Free Art Gallery (now being enlarged), in the Cam
berwell Road, are scallops from Lake Tiberias.
Referring, it seems, to Palermo (the " City of
the Golden Shell," as classic writers call it), Gray
(' Travels,' 1794, p. 357) remarks :—
" Licentious ceremonies in honour of indecent emblems
are still remembered. Witness the processions that
existed, within a century, in Sicily, the Finger of
Cosino, and the concha of Venus worn by pilgrims."
The scallop, in marble, appears above the royal
arms on Queen Anne's replica monument at
St. Paul's in white marble.
In the Tower Jewel House is a gold wine
fountain, given by Plymouth to Charles II., which
is adorned with five scallops. Outside the White
Tower is a French cannon of 1706 with a scallop
on the breach.
At the Soane Museum, Lincoln's Inn Fields, is
a small tortoiseshell and ivory casket given by
Philip II. to Mary I. On the front are four ivory
scallops. In the fagade of San Zaccaria, Venice,
in the second story, is a row of circular-headed
alcoves, each having a scallop in the arch (Builder,
No. 2666, p, 109). Taylor, in * Fragments,'
No. cccclxviii. (Calmet's * Dictionary,' iii. 206),
remarks : —
" Capt. Wilford informs us, from the Indian Puranas,
that on the shores of the Bed Sea was an island called
Sancha-Naga. Sancha means a sea-shell or the large
buccinum. Naga means a serpent. Sancha-Naga,
then, means the Serpent who dwells in a shell."
It would seem that the scallop was sometimes
called a cockle, for Shakspere speaks of a pilgrim
with his cockle-shell and staff, and the pilgrim
shell was undoubtedly the scallop.
Smith (' Tour on the Continent,' 1793, p. 78),
speaking of S. Sulpice, Paris, says : —
" In the nave are two shells of the gigantic cockle,
Chama gigantea, which an inscription tells us 'were
presented by the Venetians to Francis I. as natural
curiosities to ornament his palace ; but that Louis XV.,
more zealous for the glory of God, destined them to hold
holy water here '; which purpose they now serve, being
edged with brass."
Landor (( Pentameron,' 1889, p. 93) has an
elegant sonnet, spoken by Boccaccio, in which he
identifies the scallop as "the pilgrim's shell" : —
Under a tuft of eglantine, at noon,
I saw a pilgrim loosen his broad shell
To catch the water off a stony tongue.
* * * *
His shell so shallow and so chipt around.
# # # *
The pilgrim shook his head, and fixing up
His scallop,
Erasmus, in his inimitable style, connects the
scallop, the pilgrim, and St. James together
(' Colloquies,7 by L'Estrange, 1711; 'The Re-
ligious Pilgrimage,* col. ii. p. 13) : —
" 'But what 's the meaning of this dress, I prithee?
These shells.' '0 ! you must know that 1 have been
upon a visit to St. James of Compostella '; ' he seemed
to smile and gave me a gentle Nod ; with this same
Scallop* shell. But why that Shell rather than any.
thing else 1 Because there's great Plenty of these Shells
upon that coast.' '
Lord Normanby, in ' The Prophet of St. Paul's '
(Baudry, ' The Tale Book,' 1835, p. 326), describ-
ing the Paris decorations on the marriage of
Louis XII. and Mary, 1514, says : —
" One of the personifications of Mary was, in com-
pliment to her insular birth, that of Venus rising out
of the sea ; but as it would have been almost treasonable
to imagine their Queen in the goddess's usual undress,
besides the customary shell behind, she held before her
a cloth of gold tissue petticoat."
In the * Inventory of the Jewels and Money of
James the Third,' 1488, appears : " Item— a collar
of cokkilschellis contenand xxiiii schellis of gold "
(Tytler, ' History of Scotland/ 1841, vol. iv.
p. 355).
A shell is carved on each side of the doorway of
the ruins of the convent near Clonmacnoise, Ire-
land (Ware, * Antiquities of Ireland ' by Harris,
1764, p. 164). The shell is used in the iron grille
of the tomb of Queen Eleanor, 1294, in West-
minster Abbey, also on the figure of Henry VII.
on his tomb. In the portrait of Tannequy Duchastel
he wears a gold collar with shells in it, and in that
of Philippe le Hardy his surtout is sprinkled with
shells (Barante, ' Histoire des Dues de Bourgoyne/
Paris, 1826, vol. xiii.). Sir Christopher Hatton
gave Queen Elizabeth in 1589, as a New Year's
present, a gold collar containing four scallops
garnished with diamonds and rubies.
Maurice (* Indian Antiquities/ 1794, vol. iv.
p. 660) says that the Brahmins attached a certain
sanctity to sheila.
A very singular passage in Apion (Whiston,
' Josephus against Apion,' 1864, p. 648) seems to
give a clue to the Greek myth of Bubo and Venus
and the scallop, where, speaking of the Exodus,
he says : " When the Jews had travelled a six
days' journey, they had buboes in their groins ;
and that on this account they rested on the seventh
day," and that they called Sabbath, because in
Egyptian Sabbato was the name of this infliction
(cf. Archceologia, xlii.). Josephus exposes the
error. A, B. G.
CASANOVIANA.
(Continued from p. 45.)
At the last reference mention was made of a
certain Dr. Masti to whom Casanova had sold a
valuable cameo. I have since discovered that tbe
"Dr. Masti " of the ' Memoirs ' was Dr. Matthew
. XL MAS, 27, wo NOTES AND QUERIES.
243
Maty, a physician, and a critic of considerable
renown in his day. Maty came to London in
1741, and became in due course Principal Librarian
of the British Museum and Secretary to the Royal
Society. He died 2 Aug., 1776. According to
the * Annual Register' of that year, Maty was
" a very learned and ingenious gentleman, and
well known as such in the literary world."
One night in September, 1763, while Casanova
was driving homewards after a subscription ball,
he heard some one call out : " Good night, Sein-
galt ! " Poking his head out of the carriage
window, Casanova returned the compliment;
whereupon two men stopped his carriage, and
arrested him " in the king's name." Casanova in
vain asked the cause of his detention. " That you
shall hear at the lock-up," answered one of these
men ; u to-morrow you will appear before the
magistrate, and on the following day you will make
acquaintance with Newgate." Next morning
Casanova, still in his costume de bal, was taken to
Bow Street.
" My appearance produced a sensation. At the farther
end of the Court sat an old man, with a shade over his
eyes, intent upon the business before him. There were
several cases to be disposed of before my turn came. On
asking the magistrate's name I was told that it was Field-
ing. Thus, by a strange coincidence, and certainly much
against my will, I found myself in presence of the cele-
brated author of 'Tom Jones.' '
Alas ! Casanova had no such luck. Henry
Fielding died at Lisbon in 1754 ; consequently
the author of 'Tom Jones' had been dead nine
years. The magistrate in question was Sir John
Fielding, the novelist's half-brother, who suc-
ceeded him as one of the justices for Middlesex.
Though blind from infancy, Sir John is said to
have discharged the duties of his office with great
credit. He died in 1780, and is buried in the old
churchyard at Chelsea. Addressing Casanova in
the Italian language, Fielding said : —
' You are charged, upon the evidence of two witnesses,
with an assault. Have you anything to urge in your
defence ? "
Casanova had a good deal to say, and said it to some
purpose. As the case proceeded it was conclusively
proved that both witnesses for the prosecution
were tainted, and that the alleged assault was due
to an accident. At least so says Casanova ! But
there must have been something suspicious in the
matter, for Fielding bound him over to keep the
peace, and required him to find sureties for good
behaviour in future. There being no one in court
to undertake that responsibility, Casanova, to his
infinite disgust, was taken to Newgate and was
ushered into the common room.
' Never shall I forget the impression which the aspect
of that hell upon earth made upon me ! I seemed to
have entered one of the circles in Dante's 'Inferno.'
Faces, degraded by indulgence in every form of vice,
glowered upon me. Viper glances and mocking smiles
shot from those victims of envy, rage, and despair ! It
was horrible. I was received with a storm of hisses, a
reception due, doubtless, to the gorgeousness of my attire,
which seemed to set me a peg above the others in the
social scale. From all parts of the room they came, and
asked how I happened to be in that unenviable position.
As I did not answer them they waxed wroth, and made
use of horrible language. In vain the gaoler pointed out
to them that, being a foreigner, I could not be expected
to understand what they said. It was no use, the cursing
went on ; and I dreaded the approach of night, deeming
my life in peril among such devils. To my intense relief,
after an hour of acute mental suffering, the turnkey
came, and told me that my tailor and my wine merchant
had guaranteed the twenty guineas caution money, and
that I was a free man."
It is not possible to fix the precise date of Casa-
nova's departure from London — probably in the
middle of October, 1763— after a residence of some
four or five months. His experiences were not
happy, and it is evident (the question of morality
apart) that he fell into bad company. His asso-
ciates were mostly foreigners of evil repute, whose
names are familiar to students of eighteenth
century literature. One of his friends here was
M. Ange Goudar, five years his senior in age, who
came to London in 1761, and began his career as
a pamphleteer. In the course of a dissipated life
he won the affection of a beautiful widow, whom
he eventually married and took to Naples, where
he became a teacher of foreign languages. While
in that city he published, in 1770, a French and
Italian grammar, which brought him to the favour-
able notice of King Ferdinand IY. With sinister
intentions Goudar presented his beautiful wife to
the king, hoping thus to make a short cut to
fortune ; but Queen Caroline put a stop to his
plans, and caused the Goudars to be expelled from
the kingdom. After wandering about Italy for
some years, this ill-assorted couple found them-
selves in Holland, where Goudar forsook his wife,
and returned to England. Although possessed of
considerable literary power, he did not make much
headway, and at the time of his death, in 1791,
was absolutely penniless. The work by which
Goudar is best known in this country is ' L'Espion
FranQais i\ Londres,7 published in 1779. Madame
Goudar published in London, in 1777, her ' Re-
marques sur les Anecdotes de Madame Dubarry,'
and died at Paris in 1800. Both these persons,
having had a considerable share in creating the
troubles which beset Casanova during his visit
to England, are mentioned in this place.
From Calais Casanova journeyed by slow stages
to Berlin, where he attended a reception at the
house of Lord Keith (Milord Marcchal). By that
nobleman's advice Casanova wrote to Frederick
the Great, at that time residing at Sans Souci, and
craved the honour of an audience.
"On entering the gardens attached to the king's
residence I observed in the distance two figures advanc-
ing in my direction. One was dressed in plain clothes,
the other in uniform with long military boots, but
without epaulettes or orders. By the simplicity of his
•244
NOTES AND QUERIES.
attire I
Prussia. His
His Majesty
perceiving me in
and, on a nearer
u t
approach, shouted in a voice of
" • 80 ! you are Monsirnr Casanova ! What do yon
"Startled by this unexpected reception, I could not
tar tbe moment make any reply.
* ' Well ! why do you not answer!' roared the king.
'Are not you the Venetian who wrote to me ? '
"'Ye-, sire. I crave indulgence for my silence. I
Milord
Le:
had no idea that your Majesty was so imposing.
M' Ah Jab I you are known to him then? Good.
us take a turn in the gardens/
" Reassured by the king's fhsnge of m inner, I was
about to explain the cause of my visit, when he suddenly
took off his hat and flourished it to right and left.
w< What think you of this garden?' said he.
"'It is magnificent.
'
sre.
Hay, you are a flatterer/ rejoined the king ; ' the
5ns at Versailles are far superior/
, , may have noticed that I referred to
that tax as « unfortunately necessary/' for this reason :
war is a scourge/
Possibly. And what about the tax devoted to the
people ]
That is a good tax. The money which the king
receives with one hand from his subjects he returns to
them with the other hand.'
" ' Yon are probably acquainted with Calsabig
1 Yes, sire/
" ' And what is your opinion of AM tax— for lotteries
are a tax, surely? '
"• Yes, but a good one, since the profits of a lottery
are applied to institutions designed for the public good.'
'• ' And supposing there is a dead loss on one of these
lotteries, of which there is always a chance ?'
'The odds are against any such loss,' said I.
There yon are mistaken,' rejoined the king.
"'Hay, sire, it is not I that am mistaken; it ;-• a
simple matter of arithmetical calculation/
" ' Yon must be aware that I have during the past three
days lost twenty thousand thalers by a lottery V
I do
' Undoubtedly, on account of their fountains.'
"'Justs*. In a vain endeavour to rival them I have been
ut
Incredible ! and without the smallest result !
"' Monsieur Casanova,' said the king with a
yon are evidently versed in hydraulics ! '
" Abashed by the tone of this remark, I merely bowed.
''Possibly you have also served in the navy? How
y war vessels does your republic command?'
-•Twenty/
" * And now many troops on a war footing? '
*' About seventy thousand.'
'That is nonsense,' roared the king. 'You are
joking. You say that to make ma laugh? By tbe way,
do your talents also He in the direction of finance ?'
' The swift succession of the king's questions, to which
he himself replied before I bad time to do so, not to
speak of his scarcely veiled satire, so increased my em-
barrassment that I must have cut a very poor figure.
Pulling myself together with an effort, I assumed a
serious air, and informed his Majesty that I was pre-
pared to discuss the question of taxation in all its
branches.
"' Your Majesty has lost but once in two years, j. u«
I not know the aggregate of gains, but believe them to I
_ superior to tbe losses.'
** ' And yet wise men are dead against these lotteries,
said the king, shaking his head.
"« I do not say that lotteries are in themselves laud-
able; I regard them as political necessities. If your
Majesty will admit that the Creator of the Universe is
absolutely indifferent as to the result, then, surely, the
king has nine chances to one in his favour/
**'! may possibly be disposed to agree in that pro-
position, but I am not indifferent to the voice of my
people, who regard your Italian lotteries as so many
"' By all
'Let us hear the
king,
l
outright
Monsieur Caav
said tbe
lancial projects of
•ova the Venetian. Proceed, sir; I am all attention.'
For the sake of argument, sire, I propose to repre-
sent taxes under three headings: first, those that are
prejudicial to the public; secondly, those that are
unfortunately necessary ; and, thirdly, those that are in
an respects excellent'
!< A good beginning. Proceed.'
[ In the first category are those taxes which the king I
»e second \
are those devoted for tbe
on himself. In tbe
ic and support of the army.
And in the third are those devoted to the well-being of
"'That arrangement is new to me,' said tbe king.
Bnrifing.
«; Perhaps your Majesty will permit me further to
explain my meaning? The tax raised for tbe king's
separate use goes direct into tbe coff-rs of tbe king.'
"'And you call that a prejudicial tax !' interposed
Frederick tbe Great with a proud toss of tbe b-ad.
'Undoubtedly, sire, and for th a reason. It does not
circulate; U does tot assist commerce, the very life blood
f.f r . ^ f * *• ^ • *
" There was a pause. Evidently the king could not
bear contradiction ; so I held my tongue. Suddenly his
Majesty came to a halt, and, turning towards me, §aid
abruptly: —
"• You are a fine-made man, Monsieur Casanova !'
" ' That is a quality which I share with your grenadiers,
fire/
" I bad no sooner spoken than Frederick the Great
raised his bat, as a signal that my audience was at an
end. I had more than a suspicion that tbe king was
displeased, as, with a low bow, 1 retired. On meeting
Milord Marechal two days afterwards, be told me that
tbe kins; bad spoken of me, and had proposed to find me
an employment.''
Some days later Casanova went to Potsdam, and
saw the great King of Prussia reviewing a battalion
of bis Guards.
"The appearance of those soldiers was decidedly im-
posing. They were all about six feet high, and their
drill interested me. They worked together with wonder-
ful precision; in fact, like clockwork; nothing could
have been better.
«4 t
And you do not appear to view the tax raised for
the army in a much more favourable light.'
*/*j JSJB>«? «*j.v**m w v* sa. j ui/fcuiug «SVUJ*A
When tbe drill was over I entered
the chateau, and wandered over its luxurious &
ments. In the smallest room of all I noticed a plain
iron bedstead standing behind a screen. It was the
king's bed 1 The valet de cbambre, who acted as my
guide, took out of a drawer a nightcap which be said was
worn by the king when be bad a cold ! As a rule
the king slept in his hat, a military custom that must
have had its drawbacks. Close to the bed stood a sofa,
and beside it a table covered with books and papers.
In the fireplace I noticed some scraps of burned p
About one month prior to my visit this room had caught
fire, and some manuscript in th* king's own hand was
partially destroyed. It was Frederick the Great's account
s. xr. MAR. 27/97.] NOTES AND QUERIES,
of the Seven Years' War. But his Majesty must have
rewritten the lost pages, for the work appeared in print
after hia death."
The king offered to Casanova a post as instructor
to the cadet corps which had recently been
formed, an appointment to which he refers in the
following words : —
"Although there were only fifteen cadets, all told,
the staff comprised five instructors ; that is to say, three
pupils to one master. The emoluments amounted to five
hundred thalers a year, with lodging and rations free.
The salary was certainly not excessive, but there was
little to be done beyond superintending the pupils, and,
at first sight, it seemed to be an easy billet. Before
finally accepting the post I obtained permission to visit
the barracks where these boys were trained. I found a
building at the back of the king's stables which con-
tained four or five large rooms destitute of furniture, and
about twenty bedrooms on the floor above, which were
furnished in the simplest manner. Each room contained
a rolled-up bed, a rude wooden table, and a milkmaid's
stool. In one of the large rooms below I saw the cadets
being drilled by four individuals whom I took to be their
valets, but who, in fact, were their preceptors. While
watching these boys I was startled by the abrupt en-
trance of the king, who proceeded on a tour of inspection.
In one of the bedrooms his Majesty caught eight of a
night-shirt which was lying on one of the beds. Hia
Majesty struck at the bed with his cane, and called for
the preceptor in charge of that room. On his appear-
ance the king poured forth a volley of such language,
and loaded the unhappy preceptor with such abuse, that
I must spare the reader its recital. One thing was clear
to me : I would have nothing to do with the proffered
appointment."
A few days later Casanova quitted Berlin for
St. Petersburg and Moscow, where he hoped to
obtain an audience from the Empress Catherine.
RICHARD EDGCUMBK.
83, Tedworth Square, Chelsea.
(To le continued.}
LILIES OF THE VALLEY AT CANTERBURY. —
Lest it should ever be asked, or, at least, asked in
vain, what is the connexion between lilies of the
valley and the enthronement of an Archbishop of
Canterbury, it may be well to record in * N. & Q.'
the following remarks from the Guardian of
13 Jan., relating to the reception of Dr. Temple
in the Guildhall of Canterbury, by the Mayor (Mr.
G. Collard), on the day of his Grace's enthroniza-
tion : —
"Owing to his worship's liberality there waa a
plentiful supply of lilies of the valley for those attending
this initial ceremony, thus perpetuating the beautiful
idea emanating from a speech made by the late Arch-
bishop Benson, who, observing the number of citizens
who wore lilies, found out that they were an emblem of
the blameless lives of his predecessors. Thus, besides
paying a graceful compliment to the new Archbishop,
the Mayor supplied those present with choice button-
holes. The production of these beautiful floral decora-
tions showed what pains and forethought had been
taken to make the reception worthy of the occasion.
Archbishop Benson's enthronement was late in March.
and there was no difficulty at that time of the year in
securing an adequate supply of lilies ; but it waa thought
ihat at this early period of the year it would be necessary
to import some. .....This, however, was not the case, for
the nurseries of a famous rose-grower, Mr. Mount ......
were equal to the occasion,"
ST.
1 THE UNTRODDEN WAYS.' — Unless one is
inclined to verify quotations, it is wise to allude
merely, and to avoid the inverted comma.
Carlyle could do this admirably ; his comparison
of Mirabeau on the heights, for example, with
Gray's * Hyperion ' is at once an energetic, vivid,
and independent delineation, and a reference
which readers of the * Progress of Poesy ' readily
appreciate. Mr. Saintsbury should have followed
an example of this kind when alluding to Words-
worth in his * Twenty Years of Keviewing,' which
appears in Bladcwood for January. This is how
the essayist awkwardly concludes a paragraph : —
"In fact the reviewer is in even worse case than a
celebrated heroine of one of the poeta, who hated
reviewers worse, in hia own peculiar fashion, and who, to
do him justice, had no very great reason to love them. He
is a being whom ' there are few to praise and not a soul
to love.' "
Apart from its lumbering and ambiguous style,
this passage is both lame and faulty. It is lame
as playful banter, and faulty in its ostensible
quotation. It is anything but creditable to a
twenty years' experience to print as an extract
such a caricature as representing Wordsworth's
romantic vision : —
A maid whom there were none to praise
And very few to love.
THOMAS BAYN&
Helensburgh, N.B.
" GAWD FOR NOWT BUT IVERRYTHING." — Sd
long as quarrels among neighbours continue, this
phrase will be used when the details of the affair
are related to other, and sympathetic neighbours*
It is not a very clear phrase, but the meaning is
that one scold called the other everything bad that
she could possibly think at the time. It is a woman-
folk expression, and cousin to " Show cawd me for
iverrything show could ley her tongue tow."
THOS. RATCLIFFE.
Work sop. .
" A LARGE ORDER." — In a notice of Dean
Church's * Occasional Papers ' in the Athenaeum for
K V . « 1 II
t.
27 February, the reviewer employs the phrase " a
large order," and remarks: "The slang is good
Aristotle, by the way." The expression seems to
savour so little of the Stagyrite that I should^ be
glad to learn what is the phrase to which the writer
of the article alludes. HENRY ATTWELL.
Barnes.
THE LATE CANON ELLERTON.— The S.P.C.K.
has recently published a small volume containing
a sketch by Mr. H. Housman of the life and
work of the lute Canon Ellerton, with special
246
NOTES AND QUERIES. [8»8.xi.MAs.2T,'»7.
reference to his labours as a hymn-writer and
byranologist. It may, perhaps, be worth while to
make a note that, by a slip in Julian's well-known
* Dictionary of Hymnology/ Ellerton is said to have
been at the beginning of his clerical life curate of
Eastbourne. One letter is wrong in this word, for
Ellerton's first curacy really was at Easebourne,
near Midhurst, also in the county of Sussex.
Easebourne was formerly spelt Essebourne and
Aseburne, the first syllable, I presume, being a
modification of the Anglo-Saxon <esc, an ash-tree.
The place gives its name to the hundred called
Eseburn in Domesday Book. It is in the northern
part of the rape of Chichester, which comprises
the whole of the extreme west of the county.
W. T. LYNN.
Blackheath.
\
DR. BEAUMONT. — Southey quotes the following
lines in * The Doctor,' &c., 1834, vol. i. p. 129,
from Dr. Beaumont. Who was he? Several
persons who have borne the name of Beaumont
have written verse. I am anxious to know who
Was the author of these lines, and to read that
which goes before and after : —
For never in the long and tedious tract
Of slavish grammar was I made to plod ;
No tyranny of Rules my patience ract ;
I served no prenticehood to any Rod ;
But in the freedom of the Practic way,
Learnt to go right, even when I went astray.
EDWARD PEACOCK.
" GITE.W — This Devonshire word is used all over
the county, although I do not find it in books of
reference at hand. So it may be useful to make a
note of it : " Where 'th 'er apicked up thickee
new gite til ?" i. e>, Where has she picked up that
new habit from ? HARRY HEMS.
Fair Park, Exeter.
"UNDER THE WEATHER."— This odd phrase is
constantly used in the United States to indicate a
depressed physical condition. The corresponding
English word is " indisposed."
RICHARD H. THORNTON.
Portland, Oregon.
"SWELLNESS." — My Swedish housemaid is not
thoroughly versed in the English tongue. She has
been suffering from toothache, and a consequent
swelling of her face, for which I sent her to con-
sult a dentist. This morning I asked her if the
tooth had received attention ; and she said that the
dentist told her to come again when the "swell-
ness" had gone away. My dictionaries do not
recognize this Swedish invention ; but it strikes
me that it is a good and useful word. F. J. P.
THE EVIL EYE.— I am the lucky owner of a
curious little volume bearing the title " Practica
Artis Amandi. Auctore Hilario Drudone. Am-
stelodami, 1651," and of which I wrote a sketch
in the Bookworm, 1888. In the second part, under
"Qusestio II. De fascino, quid sentiendum?"
after discussing in tolerable Latinity the classic
belief in the evil eye, and (of course) quoting the
trite line —
Nescio quis temeros oculus mihi fascinat agnos,
Master Drudo, who signs himself " Poeseos
Studiosus," treats his readers to the following
choice morsel : —
" Fallor si puella quae visu receperat interficiendum
Alexandrum, non easel fascinatrix. Bnimvero si mulieres
quo tempore flaunt menses visu speculum inficiant, quis
dubitet, malignum quendam vaporem per oculuin trans-
mitti posse in objectuml "
Truth to tell, however, he ridicules the notion
somewhat drastically thus : " Nervus est sapientiae
non temere credere : nullum enim est taui im-
pudens mendacium quod teste careat."
But is this very ancient belief so very destitute
of proof? Superstition it certainly was (and is
still amongst Celtic peoples), but almost all super-
stitions have a basis of truth. Ocular magnetism
has often been used for good and ill by the fair sex ;
and mesmerists regard it as no mean factor in their
experiments. But why women should, by looking
into a glass, affect or infect it by the power of
the evil eye during menstruation is a novel pro-
blem which perhaps only a superstitious M.D.
could be reasonably expected to solve. The con-
ceit is further curious as forming a parallel to a
popular one in vogue in our days. Some people
ought not to look into a glass or the lens of a
camera lest they break it. Of a surety there is
" nihil novi sub sole." J. B. S.
Manchester.
EPITAPH : BERRY. — In an old commonplace
book which I have is a slip of paper containing
the following : —
" A Mr. Berry of Caton died, and by his own desire
was buried in a field near his own house. The morning
following a paper was found pinned through with a stick
at the head of his grave, containing the following epitaph:
Here lies Squire Berry
Who never would marry
Nor ever gave ought to the Poor-
He lived like a Hog
And he died like a Dog
And left what he had to a W "
The handwriting of my paper is in faded ink,
and is, I think, that of one who was born in Lan-
caster about 1770, left there about 1795, and died
about 1850. EGBERT PIERPOINT.
EGG-BERRY. — This popular name for the bird-
cherry (Prunus padus) ought not to be given
among the compounds of egg, as it is in the ' New
English Dictionary.' Other forma of the word in
the dialects being ekberry, heckberry, hagberry,
hackberry, and hedgeberry, it evidently stands for
'eg-berry, keg-berry, Dan. hage-bcer, "hedge-berry ";
the first part of the word being thus akin to Lane.
8» S. XI. MiR. 27, '97.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
247
hague or haig, " haw/' that which grows on the
$orn (hedge-thorn or haw-thorn, Earle, 'Eng.
Plant- Names,' p. Ixxii), A.-S. haga-thorn, Icel.
hag-thorn. A. SMYTHB PALMER.
Quails,
We must request correspondents desiring information
on family matters of only private interest to affix their
names and addresses to their queries, in order that the
answers may be addressed to them direct.
THE WORD " BY " IN THE DlALECTS. — I should
be much obliged if any of your readers could kindly
assist in making the material more complete for
the word by. The dialect uses, especially in idio-
matical expressions, must be far more numerous
than our present material indicates. Below are
printed some of the meanings of the word. I shall
be very thankful to know which of these meanings
are in dialectal use. Illustrative sentences of each
meaning would be valuable. Additional uses of
the word along with illustrative sentences would
be gladly received. Replies should be sent to the
EDITOR OF * THE ENGLISH DIALECT DICTIONARY,'
The Clarendon Press, Oxford.
BY, prep. I. Of time.
1. Beyond, past. You are by your time [—late].
2. Of duration : in the space of, during. You '11 not
finish it by your lifetime.
II. Denoting means, cause, relation, &c.
1. Upon, with. You need good food to work by.
Cattle thrive by that food.
2. in consequence of : judging from. She hurt her-
self by [emphatic] walking too far. That bird is shot,
by [to judge by the action of] the dog.
3. Relating to, concerning, about. What shall we do
by the mice in the kitchen? As the man said by his
wife. Not that I know by.
4. In comparison with, compared with. He 's old by
me. My hands are clean by yours.
5. Of difference : from. He doesn't know right by
wrong. His face was little different by a sweep's.
6. Contrary to. It happened by all expectation.
7. Against, to the detriment of. They say nothing by
him [against his character J. What have you done by
[to the injury of] your father ?
8. Except ; beyond, omitting. Nobody at home by me.
He wore nothing by a ragged suit. Don't sell the horse
by him [i. e., not to any one else],
9. To put or set by, to deprive of, to go beyond. He
was put by his dinner [i. e., beyond the usual time].
10. By oneself or one's mind, demented, distracted.
She was by herself with grief.
11. Over and above ; beside. Something by the com*
mon [extraordinary]. To call a person by his name
[i. e., by another name].
Br or BYE, adj. and adv. I. adj. Lonely, remote.
It 's a very bye spot. The lane is byer than the high
road.
II. adv.
1. In conjunction with prep, up, down, in, out, &c.,
usually denoting proximity. Will you step in by ? The
house up by yonder. 1 left them down by at Glasgow.
2. Past and gone; over, done with. The snow is
almost by. I '11 come when the wedding is by. Have
you finished the job ?— Yes, I 'm about by with it.
3. On one side, aside. Hang by your hat. Stand by,
there !
BY, conj.
1. By the time that. It will be ready by you get
there.
2. Nevertheless. I care not by.
" HANDICAP." (See 1" S. xi. 384, 434, 491.)
— At the last reference MR. J. 0. COYNE gives an
extremely circumstantial account of the method of
drawing a handicap as between two persons. la
this information first hand ? If not, whence is
it derived ? What is the earliest instance of a
handicap plate (or race) ? Under what name was
such a race previously known ? Q. V.
"HARBOUR": "ARBOUR."— In 1505 William
Huntyngdon by bis will directed his body " to be
buried in our lady Harbar of the Oathedrall Church
of Hertford" (? Hereford). In 1574 William
Aslakby, of Richmond, Yorks, desires "to be
buried within the arboure on the northe side of the
churche" ('Richmond Wills,' Surtees Soc., 234).
It has been suggested that Aslakby meant his body
to be interred under the north porch. Is there
any evidence that such a desire was complied
with ? Is it possible that in both cases the word
means a chapel or shrine within the church ? Are
there other instances of harbour or arbour in this
sense? Chaucer students know (e.g., 'Frankl.
T.,' 307) herberwe for the " mansion " of the sun in
the zodiac. Q- V.
' IL PENSEROSO,' LL. 173-4. —
Till old experience do attain
To something like prophetic strain.
In an anonymous and undated translation of
Erasmus's ' Praise of Folly,' towards the end, the
following passage occurs : —
" From hence, no question, has sprung an observation
confirmed now into a settled opinion, that some long
experienced souls in the world, before their dislodging,
arrive to the height of prophetic spirits."
Can any one furnish the common source of these
two passages ; or is there any reason to think that
Milton had in view the passage in Erasmus ?
0. L. FORD.
" BUGALUG."— A friend, writing last year, says:
" The other day, when at Swanage, I met with the
use of the word bugalug, applied to the representa-
tion of a man who had recently been burnt in
effigy." Is this a genuine Dorset word, or merely
an individualism ? THE EDITOR OP
<THE ENGLISH DIALECT DICTIONARY.
Clarendon Press, Oxford.
BLANCKENHAGEN. — Can any one tell me whether
the name of Blanckenhagen is Dutch j and if any
people of that name are to be found in England,
Java, or the Molucca Isles ? Capt. Blanckenbagen
was killed at Amboyna in 1813, in an engagement
with the Malays. WILLIAM ST. CLAIR,
248
NOTES AND QUERIES. [*> a xi. MAR. 27, -97.
HILAIRE, COUNTESS NELSON. — The first husband
of this lady is said to have been William Garrett,
Esq., who died in 1824, and not Geo. Ulric Barlow,
as is usually stated. Can any one settle this ?
HILDA GAMLIN.
Camden Lawn, Birkenhead.
THE NORDHAVEN. — Can any one kindly give
me information about a vessel called the Nord-
haven, afloat in 1797 ? Nothing is known of her
at the Admiralty, India Office, Customs, or Lloyd's.
Was she a Dutch East Indiaman ?
J. HAMILTON.
9, Great Tower Street, B.C.
EDWARD SUTTON, EARL DUDLEY. — He was
living temp. Henry VII. Can any reader of
( N. & Q.J kindly give me a reference where I can
find some account of him ? A poem was addressed
to him about the end of 1400 or beginning of
1500 by Tudur Aled, a Welsh poet.
HUBERT SMITH.
"A DAY'S WORK OF LAND." — I shall be glad
of information as to the meaning of this expression.
A complaint of aggrieved parishioners of this
parish, in 1615, against certain offending autho-
rities says : —
" When the churchefeeld was encloased there was
certaine land of Shotawells tenement encloased iiij dayea
worke at the least of errable ground ; since wich in-
cloasuer Wm Askewe & Richd Mountford have allotted
him only] ij dayes work & a halfe in lew of fower dayes."
It would appear from this that "a day's work of
land " was a recognized measure of quantity. The
parish tithe map, among the field names of the
present day, has : —
" No. 72. Pour days' work (arable 3a. 3r. 32p.).
"No. 73. Eight days work (arable 9a. 2r. 7p.)«"
From which we might infer that the "day's
work" was about an acre, representing perhaps
the average quantity ploughed by the usual team
of eight oxen, and varying with the quality of the
land. This, however, is only my surmise, and I
should be grateful for exact information. A parish
deed of temp. Edward I. describes a holding aa
"that tenement and capital messuage 'cum una
cultura terre in campo vocato,' " &c. Is it likely
that this would be the same thing as the "day's
work"; or what was the "cultura terre "?
ROBERT HUDSON.
Lap worth.
CHERRY BLOSSOM FESTIVAL.—! fail to come
upon any printed account in our language of a
German juvenile church festival (which I am told
is exceedingly pretty and sweet) bringing in cherry
blossoms as its prominent feature. C.
BRETON FOLK-MUSIC. — Is there any recent
collection of the genuine folk-music of Brittany ?
I only know of M, Quillien's book, which is hardly
full enough. The poetry in the 'Barzas Breiz,'
the collection of M. de la Villemarqu£, is now
known to have been fabricated. Are the examples
of popular Breton music which he gives also
factitious? E. W
THE BEST GHOST STORY IN THE WORLD.—
George Borrow, in his ' Wild Wales,' chapter lv.,
says : —
" Lope de Vega was one of the greatest geniuses that
ever lived. He was not only a great dramatist and lyric
poet, but a prose writer of marvellous ability, as he
proved by several admirable tales, amongst which is the
best ghost story in the world."
Again, in chapter xcix., he says : " Thereupon I
told the company Lope de Vega's ghost story,
which is decidedly the best ghost story in the
world." Can any reader give me the title 1
G. DAVIES.
NAPOLEON ON THE BELLEROPHON. — Can any
of your readers help me to verify the tradition
that Col. William Light, who had been an aide-
de-camp to the Duke of Wellington in the Penin-
sular war, and was afterwards First Surveyor
General of South Australia (see the memoir in the
' Dictionary of National Biography '), was the
officer deputed to demand, on board theBellerophon,
the sword of Napoleon ? Mordacque says,
"L'ordre Ministeriel portait aussi d'oter Pe'pe'e a
Napoleon, mais Pamiral Keith ne voulut pas le
faire exe*cuter." Montholon states that the demand
was made by Lord Keith himself. Does any list
of the English officers on board the ship at the
time exist ? A. F. S.
GOST HOUSE. — In no be F in the Appendix to
' Micah Clarke ' Dr. Conan Doyle gives a weird
description of " the haunting of the old Gost House
at Burton " in 1677. The account purports to be
taken from a document of the period, is certainly
very gruesome reading, and seems to be authentic.
If the incidents narrated be true, spiritualism
would seem to have something to say for itself.
What are the "documents of that date" from
which the narrative is gleaned ? And is the whole
affair a matter of sober history, or (like most ghost
stories) the concoction of some over-wrought
brain ? J. B. S.
Manchester.
"YOUR WORSHIP" AND "YOUR HONOUR."—
Malone, on Shakespeare's ' King John,' I. i. 190,
says that in Shakespeare's time " your worship "
was the form used in addressing a knight or an
esquire, as "your honour" was in the case of a
lord. Is any such definite rule laid down any-
where ? Was it ever in practice ? It is not
adhered to in Shakespeare's works. F. P. B.
JAMES GRAHAM, LORD EASDALE. — Can any
Scotch genealogist give me information about this
Lord of Session1? He was, I believe, born iq
8'* S. XI. MAR. 27/97.]
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249
1690, of the family of Graham of Dugaldstone,
and died in 1750, a few months after bis elevation
to the Bench. What I require are the pedigree of
the .Dugaldstone family and the names and pedi-
grees of Lord Easdale's mother and wife, with
dates. G. S. C. S.
CALENDAR LETTERS. — I have been asked (but,
as in many similar cases, failed) to explain certain
letters stated to be used in some old calendars
or calendar-medals. The letters in question are
A. K. T. E. D. 0. B., and are supposed to indicate,
in some mysterious way, the days of the week.
Perhaps one of the contributors to 'N. & Q.,'
skilful in such matters, may be able to explain
them. W. T. LYNN.
Blaokheath.
WILKES. — What was "Wilkes's famous retort
to Lord Thurlow," referred to by Mr. Augustine
Birrell in his letter to the Spectator of 13 March ?
T. S. B.
Music TO "LEAD, KINDLY LIGHT." — Can any
one corroborate the story that Dr. Dykes con-
ceived the tune to " Lead, kindly Light " when
moving about in the Strand ? It is known from
his diary that he had been in London the day
before he actually wrote the tune in Leeds.
E. F.
PLOUGHWOMAN. — Sydney Smith, writing on the
Poor Laws,' says, (< a ploughman marries a
ploughwoman." Was it ever usual in England for
women to plough ; and does the practice still exist ?
W. C. B,
GENERAL KECORD OF CHURCH OF ENGLAND
CLERGY. — Is there any general record kept in any
one place of those in Holy Orders in the Church of
England in England and Ireland ? If so, where ?
If not, where are the records kept for Shropshire,
Worcestershire, Essex, Middlesex, and Hamp-
shire ? ENQUIRER.
Montreal.
[The ' Clergy Directory ' giveg a full list of English
clergymen.]
AUTHORS OF QUOTATIONS WANTED. —
Stern Mother of a race unblest,
In promise kindly, cold in deed ;
Take back, O Earth, into thy breast
The children whom thou wilt not feed.
Q. K. B.
Shook the arsenal, and fulmined over Greece.
[Milton, « Par. Regained/ bk. iv. 1. 270.J
All the pent up stream of life
Dashed downward in a cataract. W. H. C.
And while with skilful hand he tried
Diseases to control
Not only saw a mortal frame
But an immortal soul. J. G. B.
Full many a shaft at random sent,
Finds mark the archer little meant.
CHARLES S, GOULD.
'SIR ANTHONY SHERLEY THE AUTHOR OF
SHAKESPEARE'S PLAYS.'
(8th S. xi. 204.)
The first feeling on reading MR. HARRIS'S note
is one of sheer amazement ; the second, that
here surely a practical joke must be intended ;
which lapses again into the former feeling when
one considers that the pages of * N. & Q.' should
be, and probably are, safe from such desecration.
If, therefore, MR. HARRIS be in earnest, I would
remark upon his note in the first place that the
lines referred to in Sonnet Ixxvi. indisputably
require a different construction from that placed
upon them. The poet clearly is stating that every
word in every sonnet is dressed in the same garment
and smacks of the same theme. The lines are not
open to the construction placed on them by MR.
HARRIS. Secondly, I would remark that there
is really nothing peculiar in any couplet contain-
ing the letters of an ordinary name, nor for the
residuum to be capable of being made up into a
more or less appropriate sentence. If MR.
HARRIS has ever followed the Truth puzzle com-
petitions he will have noted how ingeniously some
of the competitors can transpose letters, though
some are constrained by force of circumstances to
admit their "Potas" and thus render their
attempts laughable. Personally, I did hope that
after the Donnelly fiasco we might have been
spared any further such egregious suppositions as
that our greatest poet should have used his
immortal verse as the medium for burying and
manipulating figures and letters for the purpose of
mystifying or, it may be, enlightening succeeding
generations as to his authorship.
I have, I regret to say, very little knowledge of
Sir Anthony Sherley, but it may perhaps be useful
to point out once more that we possess the undying
and unimpeachable testimony of Ben Jonson,
Heminge, and Condell to the worth and work of
the man who is lovingly described as " our Shake-
speare." Happily no amount of suppositions will
avail against the affirmative evidence of these his
contemporaries ; but, unhappily, nothing will ever
check the strangest and most grotesque theories
from being entertained, so long as there are men
who cannot appreciate the value of evidence, and
who, rather than accept this positive testimony,
prefer to roam over the wildest fields of specula-
tion.
0 judgment, thou art fled to brutish beasta,
And men have lost their reason.
HOLCOMBB INGLEBY.
Is the writer of the note referred to " poking
fun"? If not, I should like to ask him how
" invention " could possibly be kept in sainfoin ?
Why, of all herbs, sainfoin ? This was not at alj
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a " noted weed" in Shakespeare's time. Shake-
speare never names it, nor does it occur under this
name in the popular herbals of his day. But
surely ME. HARRIS is on a wrong scent altogether.
By "noted weed" is doubtless meant a well-
known dress, a marked style. Shakespeare in this
sonnet asks, Why do I keep always to this one
style ? and answers his own question : —
O ! know, sweet love, I always write of you,
And you and love are still my argument ;
So all my best is dressing old words new,
Spending again what is already spent.
Nothing could be plainer ; but if your correspon-
dent doubts that Shakespeare uses " weed " in this
sense, he will find the word so used again in
' Twelfth Night,' V. i., where Viola says :—
'. '11 bring you to a captain in this town,
Where lie my maiden weeds.
0. 0. B.
In the couplet dealt with there is nothing
occult. "In a noted weed" is not a botanical
reference, but stands for " in a style that is now so
well known to all the world " (A. Wilson Verity,
'The Henry Irving Shakespeare '). The following
line is the natural sequence of this idea. We are
to infer that the poet regards his style as so well
known that the reader ignorant of the author's
name must exclaim, Aut Shakespeare aut diabolus.
There is nothing of Sherley in this.
ARTHUR MATALL.
GAULR'S c MAG-ASTRO-MANCER ' (8to S. x. 277,
401). — At the second reference suggestions are
made for the derivation of Hvs-pavria, the alter-
native title of the above work. MR. ARTHUR
MAYALL seems to think that Jlvs-^avrta may be
equivalent to "Delphic tidings bearer." Now
this the word cannot very well mean, for though
pai/rcs is a seer, diviner, prophet, &c., pavTia—
which is, I suppose, a mistake for pavrtia— means
prophesying, divining, &c. There is a word IIv0o-
/*avTts, which means a Pythian prophet, but
perhaps this is not what Gaule means. What
authority has MR. JOHN RADCLIFFE for IIiJs
(Doric) meaning "what sort of"? Liddell and
Scott's 'Lexicon' has "TTVS, adv. Dor. for Trot."
The literal rendering of the word therefore is
"divination whither?"— as TTOI is interrogative.
F. C. BIRKBECK TERRY.
"CAST FOR DEATH" (8th S. xi. 168).— As "to
cast" is the common term for "to condemn," it
seems that this must have been in use all along.
Johnson has, in this sense : " That made me cast
for guilty " (Donne) ; "Sure to cast the unhappy
criminal "(Hammond); "The very last plea of a
cast criminal" (South) ; "Both were cast" (Dry den),
ED. MARSHALL.
This appears to be a phrase equivalent to " left
for execution," which meant that the condemned
person was not reprieved. See the earlier ' Annual
Register,' in accounts of trials at assizes, passim.
In former times, it will be remembered, capital
sentences were not carried out so much as a matter
of course as is now the case.
EDWARD H. MARSHALL, M.A.
Hastings.
I can remember this phrase for more than sixty
years. As the criers of these "Calendars" and
last dying speeches have passed away, the exact
words used by " Old Corn-salve," a famous member
of the fraternity, are here put on record : —
I' Here 'a a true and correct account of all the felon
prisoners which have taken their trial before my Lord
Judge, at the city and county of Lin-coin ; cast,— con-
demned, and ac-quitted. All for one penny."
The latter part slowly and very distinctly pro-
nounced, every syllable dwelt on. R. R.
Boston, Lincolnshire.
If I am not wrong, this was a formal expression,
not confined to the sheets of the rushing ballad-
mongers. I feel pretty sure I have seen it in old
reports, e. g., in the Gentleman's Magazine.
C. F. S. WARREN, M.A.
Longford, Coventry.
MODERN JACOBITE MOVEMENT (8th S. xi. 189,
218). — At present the only periodical issued is the
Royalist, published quarterly by Brown, 17,
Tothill Street, Westminster. The 'Legitimist
Kalendar,' published by Henry & Co., St. Martin's
Lane, contains a complete list of the Jacobite and
Legitimist societies, also much interesting infor-
mation concerning the movement. The four chief
London societies are the Order of the White Rose
(Protonotary, 129, Finborough Road, S.W.), the
Order of St. Germain (Registrar, 12, Hyde Park
Place, W.), the Thames Valley Legitimist Club
(Secretary, 89, Coningham Road, Shepherd's Bush,
W.), and the Legitimist Registration Union
(Secretary, 62, Tower Chambers, Moorgate, E.G.).
Further information can be obtained from any of
the above officials or from myself.
ALOYSIUS LUMBYE, Chairman,
Thames Valley Legitimist Club.
34, Walcot Square, S.E.
SQUIRE'S COFFEE-HOUSE (8th S. xi. 126). —
MR. NORMAN'S valuable note seems not only to
settle the question regarding the coffee-house, but
to show that the owner of the property was George,
and not Christopher Fulwood, as stated by Cun-
ningham in his l Handbook of London,' ed. 1850,
p. 193. He seems to have been a member of
Gray's Inn, or, at any rate, under the orders of
that society (Douthwaite's ' History of Gray's Inn,'
ed. 1886, p. 103). I presume he was the father of
Christopher Full wood , who was admitted a member
of the Inn in 1605, and was appointed Autumn
Reader in 1628 (ibid., p. 69). Was this the Chris-
topher Fulwood who, according to Mr. Wheatley
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251
('London Past and Present/ ii. 82), was a dis-
tinguished royalist and was killed in 1643?
W. F. PRIDEAUX.
Kingsland, Shrewsbury.
"CAME IN WITH THE CONQUEROR" (8tft S. x.
456, 500). — This expression is used in Ben Jonson's
* A Tale of a Tub/ licensed 1633, first printed
1640 ;—
Pan, Outcept Kent, for there they landed
All gentlemen, and came in with the conqueror,
Mad Julius Caesar, who built Dover Castle.
Act I. so. ii.
Jonson has improved upon the usual interpretation
of the phrase. F. C. BIRKBECK TERRY.
LITERARY BLUNDER (8th S. xi. 125, 176).— I
cut the following from one of our American papers
under date of 20 Feb., which would seem to be a
comment on a bit of cabled news that had origin-
ated in London from an item in that mine of good
things called 'N. & Q.':~
"Mr. Haweis's curious attempt, in his communica-
tion in the London papers, to wriggle out of his blunder
about Charles Sumner is highly amusing. He wrote in
his book as if he were speaking of the Charles Sumner
and no one else ; and it was evident enough— though he
now says that he was writing about one Charles A. Sum-
ner, of California — that he supposed that the Sumuer
whom he knew was the Sumner whom every one else
knew. He now accuses the Americans of ignorance
because they have never heard of this Charles A. Sumner
of California ! And he adds blunder to blunder by
speaking of the Californian as ' Senator Charles Sumner,'
whereas this obscure gentleman of the Pacific slope was
never anything but a representative. There are some
men who, when they have made a blunder, can grace-
fully acknowledge it, but Mr. Haweis is evidently not
one of these. He is not a wise man, either, or else he
would know that it is always best to confess a blunder
frankly."
Certainly this is a well-developed example of the
pitfall which must come to English writers so
long as the queer fashion continues to exist in the
British Isles of curtailing the Christian names of
celebrated personages, though in the above instance
it might be difficult to find a soul familiar with the
name of Charles A. Sumner outside of his local
congressional district hid away in some obscure
part of California. Such highly English character-
istic curtailments as Greenleaf Whittier, Russell
Lowell, or Wendell Holmes, strike the Yankee as
odd, and never exactly polite or nice. Suum cuique.
PROTESTER.
United States.
BISHOPS' WIGS (8th S. xi. 104, 174).— It is
evident from what has been said that the episcopal
wig of the cauliflower or horseshoe shape was in
recent years sometimes worn and occasionally laid
aside. Perhaps the term " episcopal " is scarcely
one of universal application, as dignitaries and
heads of colleges assumed it, as Dr. Goodall, Pro-
voat of Eton College (1809-42), who wore it to the
day of his death, and it takes " eternal buckle in
Parian stone" on his statue in Eton College
Chapel. The story goes that on one occasion a
young lady was petitioning him to give a ball (he
was also Canon of Windsor), and playfully tapping
his wig with her fan, the hair-powder flew out,
upon which he replied, " Ah, my dear, you have
knocked the powder out of the canon, but you
shan't have the ball." I can remember seeing Dr.
Routh, the President of Magdalen College, Oxford,
wearing his wig in the college chapel in 1848, and
I have heard that it was preserved as a treasured
relic by the Rev. Dr. Bloxam, vicar of Beeding,
Sussex, an old correspondent of * N, & Q.; as
J . R. B.
Archbishop Sumner, of Canterbury, who died in
1862, at one time wore the wig constantly, and in
after years sometimes wore it and as often laid it
aside. Two fine portraits of him in oils, one in the
hall of the University of Durham and another in
his Convocation robes in the Combination Room of
King's College, Cambridge, represent him wearing
his own hair ; but I well remember on his confirm-
ing me, in 1847, he wore his wig. Bishop Turton,
of Ely, who ordained me in 1854, wore a very
palpable wig, not at all of episcopal cut, which
he used to adjust by pulling down the forelock.
Bishop Monk, of Gloucester and Bristol, who died
in 1856, was perhaps the last prelate who wore the
episcopal wig regularly, and it may be ceen incised
on a brass covering his remains in Westminster
Abbey. In former years the whole of the face
used to be cleanly shaven ; and there is some saying
about whiskers and waltzing being introduced into
England simultaneously.
JOHN PICKFORD, M.A.
Newbourne Eectory, Woodbridge.
We can hardly accept Canon Taylor Smith as
an example of an episcopal moustache, for the
obvious reason that his portrait was taken before
his consecration.
EDWARD H. MARSHALL, M.A.
Hastings.
BAPTISTERIES (8th S. xi. 149). — To hear that
there are only two baptisteries in England is
startling, and, I venture to think, misleading.
That at Cran brook, mentioned by E. A. C., would
be more correctly described as a "dipping- place"
for adults, and is regarded as an evidence of Ana-
baptist opinion. It was constructed early in the
eighteenth century. " Bloody Baker's Tower," or
Prison, is a chamber over the south porch, pro-
bably built as a parvise chamber or muniment
room. Dr. Lee, in his valuable ' Glossary/ says :
" Provision in all ancient examples was made for
baptism by immersion. There are several old speci-
mens of baptisteries in England; amongst others, at
St. Peter's Mancroft, Norwich; St. Mary's, Lambeth;
and at Luton, in Bedfordshire."
The Bakers were lords of the adjoining manor
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of Sissinghurst from the time of Edward VI. Sir
Eichard Baker entertained Queen Elizabeth here
in 1573. There is probably some connexion
between the chamber of cacophonous name in
Cranbrook Church and some member of this
family. WM. NORMAN.
Cranbrook, in Kent, does possess a baptistery
for those who wish to be immersed. Over the
south porch is a room, known as Baker's Prison,
where probably religious prisoners were placed,
before being sent to Maidstone or Canterbury.
Bloody Baker (or Sir John Baker) was of
Sissinghurst Castle. E. A. C. can obtain a little
sixpenny book about Cranbrook, published by
E. J. Holmes, of that town, this year, full of inter-
esting information. ARTHUR HUSSET.
Wingham, Kent.
The Kev. Frederick G. Lee, Vioar of All Saints',
Lambeth, in his ' Glossary of Liturgical and
Ecclesiastical Terms/ states : —
"There are several old specimens of baptisteries in
England ; amongst others, at St. Peter's Mancroft,
Norwich ; St. Mary's, Lambeth ; and at Luton, in Bed-
fordshire,"
I would also refer your correspondent to 'N. & Q./
1st S. v. 81; 3rd S. ii. 272,317.
EVERARP HOME COLEMAN.
71, Brecknock Road.
" COME, LET us BE MERRY " (8th S. x. 456, 500 ;
xi. 138). — For an earlier version of this song, see
* A Christmas Carol ' in the poems of George
Wither. I give the first stanza : —
So now is come our jolly feast,
Let every man be jolly ;
Each room with ivy leaves is drest,
And every post with holly.
Though some churls at our mirth repine,
Around your foreheads garlands twine,
Drown sorrow in a cup of wine.
And let us all be merry.
E. WALFORD.
Ventnor.
SIR MICHAEL COSTA (8th S. xi. 129, 211, 239).
— When I undertook to write a short memoir of
this musician for Grove's ' Dictionary,' I very
naturally went to the fountain-head for my in-
formation, and got it from Sir Michael himself.
Of course, he was never baptized in the English
form of the name, Michael, but in that of Michele,
which he anglicized when naturalized, or when
knighted. He may have borne also the names of
Andrea and Agnolo ; but these are not mentioned
by Fetis or Pougin. The date of his birth is fixed
by F^tis in 1806 ; in 1807 by Pougin. Sir
Michael gave me his name as Michael only, and
the date of his birth 1810. I have this, with
the other details of his career, in his own hand-
writing ; and I was bound to accept them without
question, as usual, from a living person, A little
vanity may have induoed him to put the date later
by a year or two than was strictly accurate. Such
things, I believe, have happened before now. But
his brother's affidavit was probably only to the effect
that, " to the best of his knowledge and belief,"
M. Costa was born in 1808. He could not swear
to it positively, unless he was present on the
occasion, which is not likely to have been the fact.
Apropos of Costa, there was a rather good joke,
on " The Naturalization of a celebrated Italian
Musician ":
Costam, subduximus Apennino.
Persius.
This appeared in Kottabos, a Trinity College,
Dublin, periodical of classical poetry, &c., 1870-1.
JULIAN MARSHALL.
ANOTHER EXPLODED TRADITION (8th S. x. 412;
xi. 51). — For what it is worth it may be acceptable
to contribute to the literature of this subject the
following extract from the letter of the Paris
correspondent of the Daily Telegraph which ap-
peared in that journal on Saturday, 19 Dec., 1896.
I have italicized the passages which appear to me
to have the more important bearing upon the dis-
cussion : —
" To-morrow evening an elaborate military ceremony
is to take place at the Opera in aid of the funds for the
erection of a fitting monument in Paris to the memory
of La Tour d'Auvergne, called the First Grenadier of
France. A sculptor, M. Larche, has already made a
plaster cast of the memorial, which is to be placed at
midnight to-morrow on the stage of the Opera, after the
arrival of the officers and others who are to take part in
the military ball. A company of Grenadiers of the 46th
Demi- Brigade, the old regiment of La Tour d'Auvergne,
will march past before the memorial to the sounds of
drums, trumpets, and bugles of the Republican Guard,
the Cuirassiers, and the Infantry corps with which the
warrior's name is associated. The ceremony is to be an
exact reproduction of that ordered by Napoleon when
First Consul. La Tour d'Auvergne's conduct while in
the Army of the Pyrenees won the admiration of Bona-
parte, who called the hero the First Grenadier of the
Armies of the Republic, and sent him, through Carnot,
Minister for War, a sword of honour, which is now in the
Carnavalet Museum, after having once been in the
possession of Giuseppe Garibaldi. It is pretty generally
known that the name of La Tour d'Auvergne is still
called out on certain days during the parades of the 46th
Regiment by the sergeant-major of the flag company.
The oldest sergeant of the corps answers, * Dead on the
field of honour.' The custom was for some time suppressed,
but was revived ~by Colonel Alessandri in 1887. The 46th
Regiment, now in Paris, keeps up the tradition with all
the old ceremony. La Tour d'Auvergne has already a
monument in his native town of Carhaix, in Brittany,
and a military march past takes place before it every
year on the anniversary of his death."
NEMO.
AUTHOR WANTED (8th S. x. 436, 504 ; xi. 33,
135). — The Latin rendering of " Hunopty Dumpty "
is correctly quoted by LORD ALDENHAM at the last
reference, and, as he observes, is to be found in the
' Arundines Cami,' where the authorship is attri-
buted to H. D., the Rev. Henry Drury, the editor.
8th S. XI. MiK.27,'97.1
NOTES AND QUERIES.
253
Editions of the book vary materially, as a collation
would easily show. My copy is said on the title-
page to be "editio quarta," and is dated, " Canta-
brigise MDCCCLI." No fewer than forty pieces,
chiefly nursery rhymes, are assigned in it to
Gammer Gutton. Of course ' Humpty Dumpty '
is intended as a riddle, the answer being, i( An egg."
I can remember, when a little boy, seeing a large
coloured folding plate, in three divisions; represent-
ing this history. In the first, Humpty Dumpty was
seated on the wall ; in the second his fall from it ;
in the third, the futile attempt to restore him to his
former position and reunite the fragments of his
shell. JOHN PICKFORD, M.A.
Newbourne Rectory, Woodbridge.
I subjoin another version of this legend. Some
ascribe it to Tom Taylor ; but this is doubtful : —
Dumptius, in muro sedit, teres atque rotundus ;
Humptius, heu, cecidit ; magna ruinafuit :
Non homines, non regis equi, miserabile dictu,
Te posaunt sociia reddere, Dumpti, tuis !
PATRICK MAXWELL.
Bath.
DIVINING-ROD (8«> S. x. 255, 302, 345 ; xi. 133).
-The efficacy of the divining-rod does not seem
confined to water-finding, as witness the following
from the Antiquarian Chronicle and Literary Ad-
vertiser (February, 1883, p. 137) : —
'Mr. Billingsley, speaking of the Lapis Calaminaria
Works of Somersetshire, says : * The general method of
discovering the situation and direction of these seams of
ore (which lie at various depths, from five to twenty
fathoms, in a chasm between two benches of solid rock),
by the help of the divining-rod, vulgarly called josing ;
and a variety of strong testimonies are adduced in sup-
port of this doctrine. Most rational people, however,
give but little credit to it, and consider the whole as a
Should the fact be allowed, it is difficult to
account for it ; and the influence of the nerves on the
hazel-rod seems to partake so much of the marvellous
as almost entirely to exclude the operation of known and
natural agents. So confident, however, are the common
miners of its efficacy, that they scarce ever sink a shaft
but by its direction ; and those who are dexterous in the
use of it will mark on the surface the course and breadth
the vein; and after that, with the assistance of the
>d, will follow the same course twenty times following
blindfolded.'— Marshall's 'Report on the Agriculture
of the West of England,' 1810."
A. 0. W.
TAPESTRIES FROM THE KAPHAEL CARTOONS
S. xi. 107, 171).-Boughton House, in this
>arish, the Northampton seat of the Duke of
Saccleucb, is rich in exceedingly fine specimens
tapestry ; and it may interest D. and others to
aow that amongst them are the following subjects,
excellent condition : The Death of Ananias,
Death of Sapphira, SS. Peter and John at the
autiful Gate of the Temple, Ely mas smitten
Blindness, the Sacrifice at Lystra, St. Paul
preaching at Athens. Besides the above subjects
the Gospels : St. Peter receiving the Keys, and
the Miraculous Draught of Fishes.
All these eight pieces are in the state apart-
ments especially prepared by Ralph, first Duke of
Montagu, for the reception of William and Mary
when they visited him at Boughton in 1695.
Almost every room in this fine old but rapidly
decaying mansion is adorned with tapestry, the
subjects being taken chiefly from Jewish and
Roman history and from the classics. Probably
Duke Ralph availed himself of the opportunities of
purchasing which his long residences on the Con-
tinent as an ambassador and as an exile gave to
him. The subjects from the Acts of the Apostles,
referred to above, are doubtless copies of the same
cartoons as those to which D.'s inquiry relates,
which, as stated by M. EUGENE MUNTZ, were pur-
chased (at the suggestion of the Chevalier Bunsen?)
for the Berlin Museum. Several pieces of the
Boughton tapestry were sent by the late Duke of
Buccleuch to the art exhibition held at Man-
chester a few years since, and attracted much
notice. OHAS. WISE.
Weekley, Kettering.
CARTWRIGHT'S 'ROYAL SLAVE* (8th S. xi. 47,
194).— Third edition, London, printed for T. R.
and Humphrey Moseley, and are to be sold at his
shop at the sign of the " Prince's Armes " in St.
Paul's Churchyard, 1651. Is it superfluous to note
here that Busby's success in the title rOle was such
as nearly caused him to seek his further distinction
on the stage instead of in the schoolroom ?
KlLLIGREW.
"DEAR KNOWS" (8th S. xi. 5, 57, 175).—
"Dear" only knows what some of these exclama-
tions mean. MR. BIRKBECK TERRY'S suggestion
as to "Dear me!" will hardly apply to "Dear
heart ! " or u Dear heart alive ! " which in Borne
places are almost equally common ; nor does it
explain very satisfactorily our Lincolnshire "Deary-
me-to-day!" 0. C. B.
(8«> S. xi.
died 1685,
JOHN, SECOND BARON ROBARTES
168). — John, first Earl of Radnor,
leaving many descendants. The last of them, John,
fourth earl, died 1764, when the title expired. I
do not know that it has ever been claimed.
C. F. S. WARREN, M.A.
Longford, Coventry.
"EYE-RHYMES" IN THE POEMS OF SURREY
AND WYATT (8th S. xi. 161). —MR. H. CECIL
WYLD speaks of rhymes like palm, arm, born,
dawn, as if they were true rhymes. This is at
least as great a fallacy as that to which he calls
attention in Puttenham. It is quite true that
words differently spelt may rhyme together, and
equally true that words similarly spelt, as, e.g.,
door, poor, may not be true rhymes ; but palm,
O lo> JLJCOHaCO LUC UUUVU SUUICULS UU'Jl, UUUr. LUtty JUIUU uo pmuv iiaji-uoo , i IA« pnui,
the Acts of the Apostles, there are two from I arm, and born, dawn, differ both in spelling and
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sound, and are therefore neither "eye-rhymes"
nor ear-rhymes. I have, indeed, heard some people
speak of the " lors of the land," and of a certain
river " Jawdan," but I do not suppose your corre-
spondent would do so. C. C. B.
PEARLS (8th S. xi. 146).— The passage quoted by
ST. SWITHIN from the * Duchess of Malfi ' calls to
mind another passage in ' The Parson's Wedding,1
1663 :—
"Jolly. What! ia thy dumps, brother? Call to thy
aid two-edged wit. The captain sad ! 'tis prophetic :
I 'd as lieve have dreamt of pearl, or the loss of my
teeth."— Dodsley's 'Old English Plays,' ed. Hazlitt,
vol. xiv. p. 425, Act II. ec. v.
F. C. BIRKBECK TERRY.
STEPHEN DUCK (8th S. x. 476 ; xi. 14).— Was
Dr. Arthur Ducke an ancestor of Stephen Duck 1
"Arthur Ducke, LL.D.," died circa 1649.
CHAS. JAS. FERET.
PEACOCK FEATHERS UNLUCKY (8th S. iv. 426,
531 ; v. 75, 167 ; ix. 408, 458 ; x. 33, 358, 479 ;
xi. 36). — When the Pope is carried in state in the
sedes gestatoria, two insignia called Jldbellce are
borne immediately behind him. The flabella is
a fan-shaped arrangement of peacocks' feathers on
the end of a long staff. Symbolically the eye-like
plumage is held to represent the watchful over-
seeing of the whole Church by the Supreme Pontiff;
historically, the flabellce are understood to be a
survival of the imperial pomp of the Caesars. As
a special mark of Papal favour, the privilege of
using the flabellce at certain stated functions has
from time to time been accorded by the Popes to
a few distinguished churches, and perhaps the
right to use them is prescriptive in some cases. I
have seen the fldbellce in use at the parish church
of San Domenico, Valetta, Malta, which is in the
hands of Dominican friars. Their convent was
granted the privilege some time in the last century,
I believe. They are only allowed to use these
remarkable accessories of public worship when the
prior celebrates High Mass on the feast of their
patron, St. Dominic, and only from the consecra-
tion to the communion. When the priest spreads
his hands over the host, the two bearers kneel on
the topmost step of the high altar with the flabellce.
At the pronouncement of the words of consecration
they lower the Jldbellce before them, until the pea-
cocks' feathers of both almost meet just above the
celebrant's head, or rather, over the consecrated
species ; and keep them so until the contents of
the chalice have been consumed by the celebrant.
All the while, by a slight movement of the wrist,
the bearers of the flabellce keep up a tremulous
movement of the feathers, reminding one forcibly
of the original purpose of these instruments, which
was to prevent flies from approaching the person
or object so guarded. Like the liturgical use of
incense and dancing, the flabellce date from an age
when Christianity was yet in its Eastern cradle,
and recall purely Oriental conditions of life and
manners. JOHN HOBSON MATTHEWS.
Town Hall, Cardiff.
WAYZGOOSE (6th S. iv. 80; 7th S. x. 187,
233, 373 ; xi. 34 ; 8th S. x. 432, 483 ; xi. 30, 157).
— In reply to my query about this word, I have
had a communication from Mr. W. A. Bewes, who
kindly sends me an early quotation for the word
way-goose used in the sense of a printers' feast.
The passage is taken from J. Moxon's * Mechanick
Exercises,' p. 361, printed in 1683, and is quoted
in the introduction to * Registers of Stationers'
Company' (Arber), iii. 23 :-
" It is also customary for all the Journey-men to make
every Year new Paper Windows, whether the old will
serve again or no; Because that day they make them
the Master Printer gives them a Way-goose ; that is, he
makes them a good Feast, and not only entertains them
at his own House, but besides, gives them Money to
spend at the Ale house or Tavern at Night These
Way-gooses are always kept about Bartholomew -tide.
And till the Master-Printer have given this Way-goose
the Journey-men do not use to Wort by Candle Light."
This seems to confirm my conjecture that Bailey's
wayz-goose, in the sense of a stubble-goose, is a
ghost-word. A. L. MAYHEW.
Oxford.
ABERGAVENNY PARISH REGISTERS (8th S. xi.
149). — Although unable to reply to this query, I
may state, upon the authority of the ' Parish Re-
gister Abstract,' issued with the census of 1831,
that the entries of the baptisms then existing in
the register of this church were from 1653 to 1708
and 1718 to 1812, also the marriages from 1653 to
1707 and 1718 to 1812. The records must there-
fore have been mutilated some time prior to the
year 1831. EVERARD HOME COLEMAN.
71, Brecknock Road.
MIDSUMMER FIRES IN THE NORTH OF SCOT-
LAND (8tb S. xi. 145). — These fires were, until
the last twenty-five years, annually kindled in
Strathearn, not, however, at Midsummer, but
on Hallowe'en. So soon as nightfall set in, the
Strath was illuminated by them, studded in all
directions from the base of the Ochils on the south
to that of the Grampians on the north. They were
the work of the herds, who amused themselves in
their monotonous occupation by gathering stacks
of whins and broom for the shenagael of Hallow-
e'en. Where the material (not now so rife) was
abundant, they were often of imposing size. The
herds' work was not looked upon with disfavour,
but encouraged by the masters, as the burning of
the bonfire was considered to avert ill luck in the
ensuing year. The custom of kindling these fires
at Hallowe'en appears not to have been known
in the southern parts of Scotland, as no notice
occurs of it in Burns's famous poem, where the
observances of that festival are so faithfully and
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particularly enumerated and portrayed. Times
are changed, and not a fire is now seen on
Hallowe'en in the Howe of Strathearn. This
is due to the Scotch Education Act of 1872,
which put an end to the employment of boys as
herds, they now requiring to attend school until
fourteen years of age ; so, with the general exclu-
sion of Latin, and the non-teaching of Gaelic in
the Gaelic-speaking districts in the public schools,
the Act may also boast of indirectly suppressing
the last remnant of pagan cult in Scotland.
A. G. KEID.
Auchterarder.
"BECHATTED" (8tft S. x. 94, 480).— It may be
as well to state that in part ii. of the ' English
Dialect Dictionary,' which has recently been issued,
there is the entry " Bechatted, pp. Lin. [Not
known to our correspondents.] Bewitched."
F. C. BTRKBECK TERRY.
CLASSON (8tb S. xi. 168). — I remember the
name Glasson as that of a plumber and glazier at
Truro, 1882-7. 0. F. S. WARREN, M.A.
Longford, Coventry.
Glasson is a tolerably common surname in the
St. Ives district of West Cornwall.
JOHN HOBSON MATTHEWS.
Town Hall, Cardiff.
BRIGHTON : BRIGHTHELMSTONE (8th S. x. 216,
325, 402, 504). — I have an old map of England and
Wales, with parts of Scotland, published by J.
Gary at 86, St. James's Street, and corrected to
the year 1826, in which the name of the town is
printed Brighthelmston. G. P. HALE.
"FIGHTING LIKE DEVILS," &c. (8th S. x. 273,
340, 404 ; xi. 13). — In KILLIGREW'S note at the
first reference, which appeared on October 3, it is
stated that " it is just seventy years since Lady
Morgan heard the ballad," &c. If Mr. E.
Edwards's * Words, Facts, and Phrases ' is to be
relied upon, this statement is not quite correct,
for he remarks, sub " Fighting like devils," &c.,
p. 211 :—
11 In Lady Morgan's • Memoirs,' vol. ii. p. 232, the
writer, in an extract from her diary, October 30, 1826,
in which she describes a compliment paid to her by a
Dublin street ballad-singer, gives the following as a
•tanza from his carol."
He then quotes the lines given at the last refer-
ence. F. C. BIRKBECK TERRY.
SCOTT'S 'OLD MORTALITY' (8tft S. xi. 169).—
Robert Paterson (b. 1715, in the parish of Hawick,
.801) was an enthusiastic Cameronian, who for
more than forty years applied himself to the work
f repairing and cleaning (as well as erecting and
carving) headstones over the graves of Covenanters
had died at the hands of the Royalists during
years immediately preceding the Revolution.
Glad in a primitive garb and mounted on an
old white pony, he rode about the Lowlands,
seeking out these graves, many of which were in
remote places. At the time when the novel was
written there were few churchyards in Dumfries-
shire, Ayrshire, or Galloway where Paterson's
handiwork was not still to be seen. From his
occupation and quaint appearance he became
known to the peasants in various parts of Scot-
land by the nickname of Old Mortality. Sir
Walter Scott once found him pursuing his self-
imposed task in the churchyard of Dunottar ; but
the old man appears not to have been very com-
municative. In February, 1801, Paterson was
found dying by the roadside at Bankhill, near
Lockerby, the aged white pony standing near.
The grave of Old Mortality is in Caerlaverock
Churchyard, where a headstone was erected to his
memory in 1869.
These particulars are taken partly from the
introduction to and preliminary chapter of the
novel, and partly from the 'Tales of a Grand-
father.' E. G. CLAYTON.
The man died 1801, and the novel was published
1816. And it is clear from the preface to the
novel that he bore the name as long before his
death as when Scott knew him, "thirty years
since or more," as the preface says ; but from
Lockhart's ' Life,' i. 210, it appears to have been
in 1793. The name was therefore popularly given,
and not by Scott ; and most likely not as " Old
Mortality," but as old " Mortality." His occupa-
tion would lead him often to use the word ; and
old he was, being born in 1715.
C. F. S. WARREN, M.A.
Longford, Coventry.
HADDON HALL (8th S. xi. 148).— Mr. Planche,
than whom there are few higher authorities on
such matters, has said that there is no trace of a
Margaret Peverel as wife of either Kobert or
William de Ferrars, but that the fee of Peverel
was forfeited by William Peverel, probably by his
offence of siding with King Stephen, and that
Henry, before he was king, gave the honour to
Ealph Gernons, Earl of Chester. Ralph's grand-
daughter, he says, took it to Ferrars. It has often
been said that William Peverel lost his property
for poisoning the earl's father ; but there seems
no evidence for this. Would not the Ferrars
family have been holders in chief as well as
the Peverels and the Chester earls, and the
Avenels and Vernons only sub-tenants ? The
Close Roll, 7 Hen. III., testifies to the king's
giving the service of William de Vernon in
Haddon and Basselawe to William, Earl Ferrars.
As William Peverel must have lost his honour
about 1140, and it must have been in 1223 in
possession of the E*rl of Chester as overlord,
assuming Planche" to be right, why should the
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service of William de Vernon be made over to Earl
Ferrars? Earl Ferrars had married the Earl of
Chester's sister in 1192, so there might have been
some family arrangement. The Peverels held long
after and in the direct line in Hampshire, Dorset,
and Sussex, but I do not recall proofs or indica-
tions of their continuing to hold in Derbyshire.
Was the name of the Vernon who married the
coheiress of Avenel Richard? Leland says so,
indeed. But might it not be a mistake, and the
real name be William, whose son was a Richard, I
think? Certainly William was holding Had don
in 1223. T. W.
Aston Clinton.
CARRICK FAMILY (8tb S. x. 415, 484).— Mr.
James Carrick and his wife, Julia Ann, occupied
No. 1, Exmouth Villas, in this village, together
with the small meadow or paddock adjoining now
the Hampton Hill Lawn Tennis Club ground, from
1864 to 1867, in January of which latter year he
died, she surviving him some years. Both were
still comparatively young. They were childless.
I have portraits of both, and books and furniture
which belonged to them. Mr. Carrick was, I
think, from Carlisle. He carried on business with
the assistance of a resident junior partner, whose
name, I think, was Goddard, as pharmaceutical
chemist in Churton Street, Belgrave Square. He
used as crest a bird of the stork or crane kind with
a dart, arrow, or rush doubled down at an angle in
its beak. Twenty years ago the hatter's shop at
84, King's Road, Brighton, was kept by a Mr.
Carrick. I think he, too, was from Carlisle. At
all events, I was assured that the name was well
known as that of a family of Carlisle hatters.
THOMAS J. JEAKES,
Tower House, New Hampton, S.W.
SHELTA (8th S. viii. 348, 436, 475 ; x. 434,
521 ; xi. 34, 90). — I have only just seen the
continuation of this correspondence. May I ex-
plain why the distinctions which MB. PLATT calls
" splitting straws" seem tome to express real and
important differences.
1. Shelta is a jargon, not a " dialect "; that is to
say, it has been fabricated artificially, and not
evolved naturally in accordance with linguistic
laws.
2. It is not a " variety of slang," which is essen-
tially popular and intelligible, but of cant, which
is essentially the secret speech of some caste or
calling.
3. If MR. PLATT uses the term Shelta as loosely
as he uses the words " dialect " and " slang," of
course Shelta may have any meaning which he
pleases to attach to it ; but this is to philologize
as Humpty Dumpty. " When I use a word," said
that dogmatic person, in language which suggests
that of MR. PLATT'S first note, " it means just
what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less."
Any less subjective interpretation of the scope of
Shelta must exclude, however, such words as slam,
dan, reener, and mizzard. The Shelta for " mouth "
is pi, not mizzard, and for " shilling" (if I am right
in supposing that to be the meaning of deener) is
mijog, not reener. The essential characteristic of
Shelta, moreover, lies in its derivation from old
Irish, not in the mode of its formation, which is
common to many other jargons. To give one
example : both the formative principles of Shelta—
viz., change of initial and transposition of letters-
occur also in the jargon of the Nutts, where words
like kon and chilum may become either ron and
nilum or onk and limchee (see Pott's 4 Zigeuner,'
i. 9). MR. PLATT calls the change of initial "a
change peculiarly Shelta," and yet in his next note
instances the use of the same device in Dutch and
Flemish bargoensch. Perhaps, however, this also
is Shelta in MR. PLATT'S extended application of
the term.
4. I was ungracious enough to call grawney a
corruption of the Shelta word, because it is a form
used not by the tinkers themselves, but by the
large nondescript class of vagrants who come in
contact with tinkers and gypsies, and adopt some
of their words in a more or less debased form.
Thus one hears toby, mizzle, and rake used by
tramps and vagrant hawkers for the Shelta thober,
misli, and rlrh. May I add — if MR. PLATT will
forgive me for disputing yet another of his dicta—
that " Shelta without admixture of English " (or
of Irish either) does not, and never did, exist?
I hope this will satisfy MR. PLATT. As an
authority on Shelta he is doubtless familiar with
the tinker proverb, " Sugu thoris : misli dhlil
gliet thorn to lobban."
I quite agree with COL. PRIDEAUX as to the
interest attaching to an inquiry into the reasons
for the use of certain initials as disguises in Shelta
words, but the subject is an obscure one. Ir
Thurneysen's article illustrating one mode of tin
formation of the Ogham words in the Diiil Laithm
he shows that Irish initial g is often replaced bj
gort, the name of this letter in the Beithe-luis-nion.
It has sometimes occurred to me that this prefix
contracted as some examples show it to gar, mighl
account for the combination gr, the commonest o;
Shelta prefixes. Of course this would not explaii
why gr should have been so generally used to th<
exclusion of other letters, but it might have beer
determined by an accidental predominance o
words in gor appearing to establish a rule, b]
fancy, or by other conceivable reasons. Why lem
one might ask, in the French langage en lem ?
When COL. PRIDEAUX says that some Shelt!
words may have crept into the Romani vocabulary
he is referring, I take it, only to the dialect o
Scotland, where the tinkler and Romani races am
tongues are so deplorably intermixed. There ar
no Shelta words in the gypsy dialects of Englam
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257
and Wales, where the few words whose etymology
is at all doubtful are certainly not of Shelta origin.
Borrow, indeed, inserts tobbar in his e Lavo Lil,'
but does not mistake it for Romnimus. He calls
it "a Rapparee word," and, by deriving it from
Irish tobar, fountain, instead of from bothar, road,
shows that he, too, was " innocent of any know-
ledge of Shelta." JOHN SAMPSON.
FULLERTON OF CRAIGHALL, AYR, AND YORK-
SHIRE (8tn S. xi. 128).— James Fullerton of that
ilk had three sons : James, the ancestor of the
Fullertons of Fullerton, co. Ayr ; John, a lieutenant-
colonel in the French service ; and William, ancestor
of the Fullertons of Craighalh Thryberg, Dennaby,
and Brinwortb, co. York, came to John Fullerton
of the last-named branch through his aunt Judith,
wife of Savile Finch, of Thryberg. Would not the
John Fullerton, captain 73rd Foot, be one of the
Fullertons of Fullerton ? JOHN RADCLIFFB.
OWEN BRIGSTOCKE (8th S. xi. 168).— Through
the courtesy of William Owen Brigstocke, Park y
Gors, Boncath, S. Wales, J.P. for the counties
of Carmarthen and Cardigan, and D.L. for the
latter county, I am enabled to give PALAMEDES
the following particulars. Owen Brigstocke was
the eldest son of William Brigstocke, of Llechdwny,
in Carmarthen, a barrister-at-law and M.P. for
Cardigan Boroughs, 1712-13, and for the county
of Cardigan, 1718-1723. He married Anne,
daughter of Sir T. Browne, Knt., M.O., no issue.
His second brother, William, married Elizabeth,
daughter and heiress of W. Jenkins, Blaenpant,
and thus the Blaenpant and Llechdwny estates
became amalgamated, as is still the case. Owen
Brigstocke had literary tastes, and spent much
time in Paris. He collected a library, a portion of
which is still at Blaenpant, and contains amongst
other rare books an illuminated (missal style) copy
of « Ye Ship of Fooles.' The Brigstockes originally
came from Surrey towards the end of the Common-
wealth. The first who settled in Wales was
William Brigstocke, who married Mary, daughter
and heiress of Morris Brown, of Llechdwny, county
of Carmarthen. His eldest son, Owen, was living
in 1687. My correspondent, W. 0. Brigstocke,
P., is the reversionary heir to the Blaenpant and
Carmarthenshire estates, now held by Maria, widow
of his uncle, W. 0. Brigstocke, deceased. Accord-
ing to Mr. W. R. Williams's * Parliamentary
listory of Wales,' Owen Brigstocke was born 1680,
matriculated at Jesus College, Oxford, 29 October,
695, aged fifteen, and was called to the bar at the
Middle Temple 1705. D. M. R.
HORACE, 'SAT.' I. v. 100 (8th S. xi. 123).-It
is with no inconsiderable degree of terror that I
venture into a den of Horatian commentators,
in this case one may hope, in spite of
Shirley, that there may be an armour against fate
under my outward apparel, which has become
somewhat worn, and that I may emerge whole of
limb.
The explanation of the term "Credat Judseus
Apella " seems to me, at least, not so far to seek,
for the following reasons as for certain others.
In Italy it is the common custom for Hebrews to
adopt the name of a town or village ; and this has
been their usage quite possibly from early Roman
days. When we meet Signer Venezia, or Signor
Perugia, or Signer Pisa, we are aware that behind
the Italian citizen there is a decided Semitic stirp.
In Southern Italy I have met many instances of
the same usage — Signor, Nola, Signer Avellino,
Signer Amalfi, Signer Aversa. Do we not recall
one of Dante's Hebrew literary friends, Giuda
Romano ? Here, then, we have Giuda, perhaps in
manner of the " Judseus Apella." But how about
Apella ?
I would venture to suggest as to this that it was
the name of a known, perhaps notoriously credu-
lous, Hebrew, who hailed from the Campanian
town of Avella, then renowned for its apples
({-<En./ vii. 740) and nowadays for the Oscan
inscription found there — and who may possibly
have been a flourishing apple-broker himself.
In the priests pretending " that the incense on
the altar was ignited spontaneously " have we not
a reminiscence of the account of Elijah and the
priests of Baal ? ST. CLAIR BADDELEY.
With reference to GENERAL PATRICK MAXWELL'S
note on this passage, perhaps I may be permitted
to point out that precisely the same conclusion was
arrived at nearly thirty years ago by Macleane in
his edition of Horace in the " Bibliotheca Classica,"
which is still for all ordinary purposes the standard
edition of the poet (see p. 388 of the second edition,
revised by George Long, 1869).
FRANCIS PIERREPONT BARNARD.
St. Mary's Abbey, Windermere.
BLANCO WHITE'S SONNET ON 'NIGHT' (8th S.
xi. 45, 135). — To the parallel passages adduced the
following may be added : —
The rising sun to mortall sight reveales
This earthly globe ; but yet the stars conoeales ;
So may the sense discover naturall things;
Divine above the reach of humane wings.
C. B. To the Memory of Sir Thos. Overburie (' Works
of Sir T. Overbury,' ed. Rimbault, p. 7).
"As the stars disappear when the sun rises, but re-
appear when it sets; BO does the waking spirit obscure
the perceptions of the senses, whilst its sleep or with-
drawal, on the other hand, brings them out again." —
Steinbeck, 'The Poet a Seer,' 1836, p. 121 (in Kurtz,
' History of the Old Covenant,' iii. 397, Eng. trans.).
" Alike, whether veiled or unveiled, the inscription [of
memory] remains for ever ; just as the stars seem to
withdraw before the common light of day, whereas, in
fact, we all know that it is the light which is drawn over
them as a veil; and that they are waiting to be revealed,
whenever the obscuring daylight itself shall have with-
drawn."—De Quincey, 'Works/ i. 2bl.
258
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" The night indeed casts a veil upon the bravery of the
earth, but it draws the curtains from that of heaven ;
though it darkens below, it makes us see the beauty of
the world above, and discovers to us a glorious part of
the creation of God, the tapestry of heaven, and the
motions of the stars, hid from us by the eminent light of
the day."— S. Charnocke. « The Attributes of God.' p. 339,
ed. 1838.
The moon pull'd off her veil of light,
That hides her face by day from sight
(Mysterious veil, of brightness made,
That 's both her lustre and her shade).
S. Butler, • Works' (ed. Clarke), ii. 142.
A cognate idea is presented in Milton's " dark
with excess of light," Wordsworth's "glorious
privacy of light." Bp. John King says of a question,
it " dwelleth in light as unsearchable as God him-
self, covered with a curtain of sacred secrecy,
which shall never be drawn aside till that day
come wherein we shall know as we are known"
(' On Jonah,' p. 115, ed. 1864), and speaks of " the
sanctuary of heaven buried in light " (id. 68). See
also Abp. Trench, ' Studies in the Gospels,' p. 209.
A. SMTTHE PALMER.
S. Woodford.
I transcribe from Chambers's 'Cyclopaedia of
English Literature/ vol. i. p. 315, the requisite
extract from Sir Thos. Browne : —
"^ Light that makes things seen makes some things
invisible. Were it not for darkness, and the shadow of
the earth, the noblest part of creation had remained
unseen, and the stars in heaven as invisible as on the
fourth day, when they were created above the horizon
with the sun, and there was not an eye to behold them.
The greatest mystery of religion is expressed by adumbra-
tion Life itself is but the shadow of death light
but the shadow of God."
We may compare Madame de Stae'l in the
* Dernier Chant de Corinne ': —
"Le ciel n'est-il plus beau pendant la nuit] Des
milliers d'etoiles le decorent; il n'est de jour qu'un
desert. Ainsi les ombres eternelles revelent d'innombrable
pensees flue 1'eclat de la prosperity faisait oublier."
It is interesting to note the variation of the
simile in Moore's sacred song "0 Thou who
driest the mourner's tear ": —
Then sorrow, touched by Thee, grows bright
With more than rapture's ray ;
As darkness shows us worlds of light
We never saw by day.
C. LAWRENCE FOKD, B.A.
3 Sydney Buildings, Bath.
BEVIS DE HAMPTON (8lli S. xi. 207).— The
story of Bevis of Hamtoun as told in * Popular
Romances of the Middle Ages,' by Sir George W.
Cox, M.A., Bart., and Eustace Hinton Jones,
third edition, 1 vol. pp. 140-161 (London, Kegan
Paul, Trench & Co., 1882), will give your corre-
spondent all the information he wants, and will
amply repay perusal. An epitome of the account
given of Bevis in Drayton's ' Polyolbion ' will be
found in Dr. Brewer's * Reader's Handbook.'
A Scotchman seldom answers a question without
asking another. Is Bevis Marks, in the City of
London, not from this Bevis ? Walter Thornbury,
in * Old and New London,' ii. 165, says : —
"A turning from Honndsditch, of unsavoury memory,
leads to Bevis Marks. Here formerly stood the city
mansion and gardens of the Abbots of Bury. The cor-
ruption of Bury's Marks to Bevis Marks is undoubted
though not obvious."
Certainly it is not "obvious." Is it "undoubted"?
Sir George Cox has the following, pp. 159, 160 :
" So Bevis went away with his knights to a tavern in
London city to refresh himself Now when Sir Bevis
in the tavern found himself beset he armed himself
Just then a cry was made ; for, lo ! Sir Guy and Sir
Miles with all their army, having burned the City gates,
came riding into Chepe. Sir Guy cut down the Lombard,
whilst Sir Bevis, gaining fresh nerve and vigour from
this welcome succour, turned again and headed his army
in battle against the Londoners, fighting far on into the
night, until the Thames ran red with blood past West-
minster, and sixty thousand Londoners were slain. Thus
Sir Bevis took the City, and brought Josian to the Leden
Hall, where they held feasting fourteen nights, keeping
open court for all folk that would come."
Judging by this account, Bevis certainly left his
marks about the neighbourhood of Bevis Marks,
and the name seems much more likely to have been
derived from him than from the Abbots of Bury.
J. B. FLEMING.
Kelvinside, Glasgow.
A full abstract of this famous legend will be
found in Ellis's 'Specimens of Early English
Romances.' Dr. Kolbing also gives an account of
the story in his edition of ' The Romance of Sir
Beues of Hamtoun ' (Early English Text Society,
extra series, Nos. 46, 48, and 65). Bevis was the
son of Guy, Earl of Southampton ; but it would be
impossible to detail all the remarkable adventures
which befel him without unduly trespassing on the
limited space of ' N. & Q.'
EDWARD M. BORRAJO.
The Library, Guildhall.
REV. DR. WILLIAM OLDYS (8tb S. xi. 208).-
W. Oldys was of New College. He was Junior
Proctor in 1623 (Wood, 'Coll. and Halls,' App.,
p. 123). His name was also spelt O'dis by Wood,
' Fast. Oxon.,' fol. 1692, vol. ii. col. 715, where it
is stated that he was " slain by the Parliament
soldiers, without any provocation given on his part,
between Adderbury in Oxfordshire, of which place
he was Vicar, and the garrison of Oxon, about
1644." He was created D.C.L. in 1667 (i&.,col. 844),
where Wood relates of him, as W. Oldys, that he
"was afterwards Advocate for the office of Lord
High Admiral of England, and to the Lords of the
Prizes, his Majesties Advocate in the Court
Martial, and Chancellor of the Diocese of Lincoln."
A graphic notice of his death, but too long for
insertion, is given by J. Walker in hia ' Account
of the Sufferings of the Clergy,' 1714, pt. ii, p. 323.
XI. MAR. 27, '97.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
259
There is a marginal note as to his name : " O'Dis
or Oldish, as I presume 'tis commonly pronounced."
Some time since I learnt, by favour of the Vicar of
Adderbury, that Oldys or Oldis, not O'Dis, was
the form in the parish registers. There is a marble
tablet to his memory, with an inscription in Latin,
in the chanoel of Adderbury Church.
ED. MARSHALL.
See Kirby's 'Winchester Scholars' (1888),
p. 161, and 'Diet, of Nat. Biog.,' vol. xlii. 119.
G. F. R. B.
FRENCH PRISONERS OF WAR IN ENGLAND (8tb
S. ix, 289, 355, 497 ; x. 64, 137, 197, 341, 457).
-Last summer I saw, in the possession of a
gentleman at Abergavenny, a well-painted achieve-
ment of the arms of the Gwentian family of
Watkins, framed and glazed. At the back, in old
faded writing, is this inscription : " The Heraldic
Device of the ancient name of Watkins
Correctly drawn by J. Thouald." He is said to
have been a French prisoner of war at Abergavenny
at the close of the last century.
JOHN HOBSON MATTHEWS.
Town Hall, Cardiff.
INCIDENT IN SICILY (8th S. xi. 169, 231).— The
treachery and sad fate of Eonailda are told in the
Immortal pages of Gibbon (chap. xlvi.). But the
I scene is laid not in Sicily, but at Friuli, on the
mainland opposite Venice, and the barbarian king
is king of the Avars, not of the Anes. Gibbon,
moreover, gives the reference to the original
! authority, Paul the Deacon, *De Gestis Longo-
bardorum,' lib. iv. c. 38, 42, and Muratori, vol. v.
p. 305, to which K. B. B. should refer. T.
THE GROTE MANUSCRIPTS (8th S. xl 208). —
These were in the hands of the late Dr. Scrivener,
| ffho quoted freely from them in his Introduction
x> the Cambridge Paragraph Bible, 1873. This
.ntroduction was reprinted separately in 1884, and
s generally considered nearly exhaustive on its
tubject. Possibly it and its quotations of Prof,
jrote might answer MR. SCATTERGOOD'S purpose ;
f not, I should suppose he might be very likely to
iear from the publishers, the Cambridge University
Press, where the professor's MSS. now are.
C. F. S. WARREN, M.A.
Longford, Coventry.
" HANDMAID " (8tto S. zi. 167).— The quotation
s apparently from Hakluyt, and occurs in
Southey's * British Admirals,' iii. 198.
EDWARD H. MARSHALL, M.A.
AUTHORS OF QUOTATIONS WANTED (8th S, xi.
169).—
Children of men, the Unaeen Power,
J. C. B. will find these lines towards the end of a poem
' Matthew Arnold, entitled ' Progress '; the lines occur
a p. 253 of the one-volume edition, published by Mac-
orillan & Co. A. C. HIIUBB,
NOTES ON BOOKS, &c.
Domesday Book and Beyond. Three Essays in the
Early History of England. By Frederic William
Maitland, LL.D. (Cambridge, University Press.)
THIS is a conspicuously able book— so able, indeed, that
it will influence thought on the history of early institu-
tions in this country for some long time to come. Prof.
Maitland studies records and documents in a fashion that
does credit to English scholarship. He reads into them
and into their meagre phraseology an historical life,
which appears all the more brilliant in conception
because it is conveyed in a masterly style of expression
at once easy and dignified. Few authors could have
been trusted to lighten the path of technical research by
the humorous flashes which appear in the description of
the early land books, by which the kings disposed of
lands to the church, not for the good of the realm, but
for the safety of their own souls.
It is quite impossible to do justice to the many minute
points of interest to the student which this book either
deals with exhaustively or else suggests, and our readers
especially, who have always busied themselves over
Domesday Book and its teaching, will be glad to avail
themselves of Prof. Maitland's guidance, and add to hig
gloss facts gleaned from local knowledge.
One or two views propounded by Prof. Maitland are
not only original, but profoundly instructive. That the
villanus is the equivalent of the tunesman, that the
manor is a house against which geld is charged, that
Domesday is a great taxing record, a rate-book, and not
a land-book, are the most important points which stand
out among all the rest. To work up to these conclusions,
land -books of pre- Domesday times have had to be
examined, and in insisting upon the fact that the grants
meant not so much a conveyance of actual land as a con-
veyance of certain rights over the land and its owners,
Prof. Maitland has, it may be hoped, completely killed
the older idea, which has never quite been allowed to
pass out of mind.
What, then, has Prof. Maitland to say of those other
questions which Mr. Seebohm, Prof. Vinogradoff. Mr.
Gomme, and others have raised about the ancient land
records 1 A sweeping condemnation of Mr. Seebohm's
famous theory for the origin of the village community
in the serfdom of the Roman colonus is summed up
in a sentence of sarcastic truth. But Prof. Maitland
does not build over the ruins he has thus created. We
look in vain for any hint as to the earliest conditions of
English institutions, or as to the influence of the earliest
forms upon the later. Prof. Maitland has so much con-
tempt for archaic survivals, that having disposed of
some of them in the pages of the Law Quarterly Review
he deems them to be shut out of the evidence. We think
he is mistaken, and for some of his own brilliant con-
clusions we can see, if we mistake not. the true justifica-
tion in the influence of primitive institutions. But our
readers will judge of this point, as of a thousand others,
for themselves.
Ecclesiastical Vestments. By R. A. S. Macalister.
(Stock.)
THE great clothing question, de re vestiarid, may be
dealt with from the sartorial aspect of mere utility or
under the sentimental feeling inspired by its adven-
titious connotation. Mr. Macalister prefers examining
the development of church vestments in the dry light of
historical inquiry and antiquarian research, setting aside
altogether the mystical and symbolical meaning which
was afterwards read into them by a pious ecclesiasticism.
This ia the right method, we cannot doubt. The medi-
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«val Amalarius could extract solemn truth from the
necessary seams in the structure of a leathern sandal,
and a religious significance was found in the pointed
division of the episcopal mitre, which was originally, as
Dean Stanley loved to point out, the mere crease made
in the soft cap when folded and carried under the arm,
like an opera-hat. So medissval symbolism strove hard
to identify church vestments with the dress of the
Jewish priesthood, without much success, especially as
Christian rites are known to have come from the syna-
gogue, where no such vestments were in use, and not
from the Jewish Temple. Mr. Macalister adopts the
more intelligent view, already clearly enunciated by
Mr. W. B. Marriott, that these adjuncts of worship are
the natural result of evolution from the ordinary costume
of a Roman citizen, which ecclesiastical conservatism
has retained. Thus the alb is a survival of the tunica
talaris, or tunic reaching to the ankles, in which
apostles and saints are generally arrayed in the earliest
efforts of Christian art. Some figures from the catacombs
might here have been introduced with advantage; but,
curious to say, Mr. Macalister makes little or no use of
the evidence from the catacombs. His final conclusion
is that no distinctive vestments were set apart for the
exclusive use of the Christian minister during the first
four centuries of the Christian era. A passage to that
effect is quoted from Pope Celestine, about A.D. 430.
The Suppression of the African Slave-Trade in the
United States of America, 1638-1870. By W. E.
Burghardt Du Bois. (Longmans & Co.)
THIS is the first issue of the " Harvard Historical
Studies." We may safely prophesy that if succeeding
volumes reach the hi^h level attained by that of Mr.
Du Bois the series will be of great value. Slavery in
America was doomed as soon as the Southern States
revolted from the Union, but the war bad raged some
time before the President of the .Republic issued his
proclamation for the emancipation of the servile class.
This is old history now, and we imagine many of our
younger readers have but a faint idea of that great
struggle which touched the hearts of so many English-
men almost as deeply as if the conflict had been waged
on our own soil. Though the British nation behaved
nobly in our own great anti-slavery struggle, it is very
strange now to call to mind that there were not a few
of us who had some sympathy with the evil thing as it
existed in America. We would in all charity hope that
this arose mainly from ignorance, for we cannot believe
that any one could have felt anything but loathing for
such a form of bondage as existed up to the last in
South Carolina. Mr. Du Bois's history does not relate
to slavery in itself, but to the slave trade, though, of
course, his pages incidentally contain not a little which
will be useful to the future historian of slavery. The
slave trade had been made a penal offence long before
the war broke out, but it continued to be carried on
almost to the last. The author states that so late as
1860 a cargo of five hundred slaves was openly landed in
Georgia, it is well known that some of the wilder
spirits of the Confederacy openly boasted that when the
war was over the African slave trade would be legalized.
It must, however, be remembered, injustice to the South,
that this great crime had been, for the most part, per-
petrated of the ship-owners of the Northern States.
Mr. Du Bois's work is full of facts, many of which we
should like to quote if we had room. Do our readers
know that at one time crucifixion as well as starving to
death and burning alive were legal forms of punish-
ment? For this astounding statement the author refers
to the slave-codt'8 of South Carolina, Georgia, and
Jamaica. The author gives in an appendix a chrono-
logical account of legislation regarding the African slave
trade, and also a valuable catalogue of the literature of
the subject.
IT is with great regret that we have to announce the
death of Canon W. A. Scott-Robertson, which took place
on Sunday, 7 March, at his residence, Old Vicarage,
Dane John, Canterbury, very suddenly from apoplexy.
Although not a contributor to our pajjes, still we have
known him for the last twenty-five years as the inde-
fatigable editor and secretary of the Kent Archaeological
Society, always writing articles for the Transactions of
the Society or engaged in supervising other matter
which came under his keen scrutiny. For upwards of
twenty years, too, he had always arranged the summer
meetings of the members, carefully giving the names of
the local hotels and times of trains on each day of the
excursion, and providing carriages, dinner, and luncheon
in the two days' programme ; and as about two hundred
and ^fifty members attended, it was never an easy task,
for jobmasters had often to bring carriages and horses
from Greenwich and elsewhere for service at Maid-
stone, &c. His death, coupled with that of the late Mr.
Loftus Brock, takes away from the Society two of the
ablest archaeologists of the day, and their loss is a great
one to the members of the Society as well as kindred
societies scattered through the country. He was buried
on Thursday, 11 March, at St. Martin's, Canterbury,
the rector of which is Canon C. F. Routledge, F.S.A.,
the present editor of the Transactions of the Kent
Archaeological Society, the twenty-second volume of
which is just about to be issued to the members, and
two articles in which were written by the Jate Canon
Scott-Robinson.
We must call special attention to the following notices :
ON all communications must be written the name and
address of the sender, not necessarily for publication, but
as a guarantee of good faith.
WE cannot undertake to answer queries privately.
To secure insertion of communications correspondents
must observe the following rule. Let each note, query,
or reply be written on a separate slip of paper, with the
signature of the writer and such address as he wishes to
appear. Correspondents who repeat queries are requested
to head the second communication " Duplicate."
THE UNMISTAKABLE ("Bee in his Bonnet").— This is
given by Kelly ('Scottish Proverbs,' p. 321) with an
additional word, " There is a maggot in your bonnet-case "
=in your head. The earliest known allusion to the phrase
seems to be in Herrick's ' Mad Maid's Song ': —
Ah 1 woe is mee, woe, woe is mee
Alack and well-a-day !
For pitty, Sir, find out that Bee
Which bore my Love away.
I Me seek him in your Bonnet brave,
I 'le seek him in your eyes.
M.A.CAMB. ("Fora lie which is half a lie," &c.).—
Tennyson, ' The Grandmother,' 1. 30.
ERKATUM.— P. 234, col. 1, 1. 25, for "1839 " read 1859.
NOTICE.
Editorial Communications should be addressed to "The
Editor of 'Notes and Queries '"—Advertisements and
Business Letters to "The Publisher "—at the Office,
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We beg leave to state that we decline to return com-
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
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LONDON, SATURDAY, APRIL 3, 1897.
CONTENT S.— N° 275.
NOTES :— Browning's Maternal Ancestors, 261— The Beck-
ford Family, 262— Sans Spuci Theatre, 263—" Maligna
Lux" — "Between the shrine and the stone" — Burning
Christmas Decorations — George Anne Bellamy — Londor
Directory — Fit=Fought — Curious Notice— Slavonic Place-
names in Greece, 264—" Wheelman " — Lewisham — The
39th Foot— Field-Marshal Studholme Hodgson, 265— The
Death of Miss Rosa Bathurst — " Tongue - Batteries " —
Statue of King William in Dublin, 266.
QUERIES :— Durham Coat Armour, 266— Ballad— "Burs "=
Oxen—" Sitting Bodkin "— Stocqueler — Lieut.-Col. Henry
Sturgeon— Chelmsford Murder — Longfellow's Address at
Harvard — Miss Fairbrother, 267 — McGillicuddy — Pepper-
corn Rent — Inscription — Hand of Glory — MacKirdys —
Louis Panormo — Bishops Consecrated in 1660, 268 —
Botanical Name — Beau Brummell — Flora Macdonald—
Authors Wanted, 269.
REPLIES : — Pepys, 269—" Handicap"— Bishops' Wigs —
Wilkes— Johnson's Teapot— Carved Adders — "Rummer"
—Scrimshaw, 270— " Li maisie hierlekin" — "Alphabet-
man "— Gascoigne, 271— Pontack's— " Shott," 272— Provin-
cial Pronunciation — "Here's to the Mayor of Wigan" —
Blencard— " Rule the Roost," 273— The Suffix "well"—
Gent — Hanwell Church, 274— Chalking the Unmarried —
Court Martial — Theodosius the Great — Earls of Derwent-
water— English Historical Rhymes, 275 — B. R. Faulkner —
Amelia Opie — Coronation of James I. — Scottish Univer-
sity Graduates— Yew Trees— Land guard Fort, 276—" An
old parliamentary hand " — Novelists' Blunders in Medicine
— Chaworth — Chinese Folk-lore — Objects used during the
Present Century, 277 — " Harpie "— " Hand-flowerer "—
'Cries of London '—" Hamel-tree "—Wart-curing, 278—
Breton Folk-Music—Robert Perreau, 279
NOTES ON BOOKS :— Le Gallienne's Walton and Cotton's
' Compleat Angler ' — ' Naval and Military Trophies ' —
Plummer's 'Venerabilis Baedae Historia Ecclesiastica ' —
' English Catalogue of Books.'
ROBERT BROWNING'S MATERNAL ANCESTORS.
Robert Browning was one of the invited guests
at the celebration of the tercentenary of Edinburgh
University in 1882. The poet was then intro-
duced to Thomas Gilray, Professor of English
Literature in University College, Dundee, and
made the remark that he was deeply interested in
Dundee, as his mother had been born there. So
far as is known, this was the first intimation of
any connexion between Dundee and Robert Brown-
ing. Prof. Gilray did not make special investiga-
tion as to this connexion, and his removal after-
wards to a professional appointment in the Uni-
versity of Otago, New Zealand, precluded inquiry.
The following account of Browning's maternal
ancestors will doubtless prove of interest as fur-
nishing the result of protracted researches into the
question.
The Dundee Sugar House was founded in the
Sea Gait, Dundee, in 1751. Like similar refineries
established in Glasgow about the same time, it was
wrought by skilled workmen brought from Holland.
Among the Dutchmen brought to Dundee shortly
after the Sugar House opened was a certain Wil-
liam Wiedemann, who apparently held an im-
portant position in the works, judging from the
social rank which he soon attained. On 27 June,
.769, he was able to purchase a self-contained
house in the Sea Gait, a short distance to the west
of the Sugar House. The deed of sale is recorded
in the Register of Sasines, preserved in the Burgh
Charter Room of Dundee, vol. ccxc. p. 286. The
property is thus designated : —
" All and whole that tenement of land or house some
time ago built by William Couper, messenger in Dundee,
and the yard thereto belonging, lying on ihe south Bide
of the Sea - gait of Dundee, betwixt the yard some
time of the heirs of Provost George Brown on the east;
the lands and yards of the heirs of James Morris,
weaver in Craigie, on the west ; the Sea - gait street
on the north, and the sea-flood on the south parts.
Which yard, upon part whereof said tenement or bouse
is built, formerly belonged to David Ramsay, merchant
in Dundee, thereafter to John Ramsay, disponed there*
after to John Ramsay L'Amy, his son, thereafter to
Patrick Crichton, writer in Dundee, who disponed the
same to the said William Couper, and disponed by him
to William Wiedemann."
This precise description renders it perfectly
easy to identify the site of the house. It stood on
the south side of Sea Gait, at the corner of the
street opened about 1800 as a passage to the
river, and named Trades Lane. The garden was
a large plot of ground extending southwards nearly
to the site of the present Dundee and Arbroath
railway station, and is now entirely built upon.
The house itself was in existence till 1889, when
it was demolished to make way for an extension
of Messrs. James Watson's distillery stores. Here
William Wiedemann resided till his death, which
took place in 1777. He was buried in the Howff,
or old cemetery of Dundee, as is proved by the
register of burials now in the Dundee Charter
Room. The only record of deaths at that period
was kept by the Town Chamberlain, who had to
account for the dues exacted for opening a grave.
Under date 16 August, 1777, this entry occurs :
" Mr William Weidemann, 4*." His widow con-
tinued to reside in the house, and had apparently
some adequate means of subsistence — possibly
shares in the Sugar House Company — for her
name appears in the first * Dundee Directory,1
published in 1782, as one of the " Merchant Com-
pany."
The eldest son of William Wiedemann, the sugar
refiner, was William Wiedemann, mariner. In
those days it was usual for the owner or part-
owner of a ship to navigate his own vessel, and
the term "mariner" must not be supposed to
imply that Wiedemann was a common seaman.
He made his father's house in Dundee his own
aeadquarters, and brought his wife to reside
;here shortly after the Sea Gait property had
been purchased. This wife bore the name of
Sarah Revell — a patronymic that suggests a con-
tinental origin, though it must not be forgotten
ihat the name, in its various forms of Revell,
fteull, and Rule, had long been prevalent in the
ocality. While Sarah Revell, or Wiedemann,
ived in the Sea Gait mansion a daughter was
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born, named Sarah after her mother. This Sarah
Wiedemann was the mother of Robert Brown-
ing.
An important manuscript volume bearing upon
this matter was recently examined in the Register
House, Edinburgh. It is the register of baptisms
for the parish of Dundee covering the period from
1770 till 1778, which was kept by John Small,
writing master; Dundee, and session clerk. John
Small's penmanship was excellent, and he seems
also to have had a " pretty wit." His wife's name
was Isabell Gibson, and whenever a domestic
event occurred in his own household which neces-
sitated an entry in the register of baptisms, he
always printed the name of his better half in
beautiful German text characters. In this volume
it fell to the lot of John Small to make the fol-
lowing entry : —
June, 1772.
Dates of Birth and Baptism— 13— 16.
Parents— William Wiedeman Sarah Revell.
Children— Sarah.
Name-Fathers and Mothers—
This entry furnishes the date of the birth of
Browning's mother ; it shows that her father was
a member of the Established Church of Scotland ;
and the blank in the space for name-father (the
Presbyterian equivalent for godfather) suggests
that the father did not conform to the usual cus-
tom, leaving the care of his daughter to his own
father and mother.
When Sarah Wiedemann was five years old her
grandfather died, and she remained with her grand-
mother in the Sea Gait house until she had
reached the age of fifteen. The date of her
mother's death has not been discovered ; there is
no record of it in the Dundeeregisterof burials. Un-
fortunately no tombstone was erected over the grave
of her grandfather, thus depriving this generation
of a few items that would have been of interest.
The precise time when Sarah Wiedemann left
Dundee can now be definitely stated.
In 1787 William Wiedemann, mariner, decided
to sell the house in the Sea Gait of Dundee, and
it is probable that both his mother and his wife
were dead at that time. Before he could legally
effect a sale he had to prove his right by the pro-
cess known in Scots law as " making up his titles."
This he did in the usual way, by appearing on the
ground in presence of one of the bailies of the
burgh, showing the deeds whereby the property
was held by his father, proving that he was the
" eldest lawful son and heir of the deceased Wil-
liam Wiedemann, sugar refiner," and then
receiving from the bailie " sasine, or actual and
corporeal possession," by the handing to him of a
portion of the earth and the door-fastening of the
house, thus symbolically giving him control over
the garden and the mansion. This act was after-
wards recorded by a notary public in the Register
of Sasines. An examination of that register
(vol. ccxcvi. p. 327) shows that William Wiede-
mann received sasine of the property on 7 May,
1787. Five days before that date he had offered
the house and garden for sale, and accepted the
" last and hiest offer," made by William Baxter,
flax-dresser and manufacturer, Dundee, the sum
being 251J5. sterling. The sale was concluded on
21 June, 1787, and the deed of sale was
registered on the following day in the
Register of Deeds in the Burgh Charter
Room, Dundee, vol. cccclxxxii. p. 357. Wil-
liam Baxter, who purchased the property, was
a partner in the Sugar House Company, and his
son — afterwards Sir David Baxter, of Kilmaron,
Bart., founder of the firm of Baxter Brothers,
linen manufacturers — was at this period engaged in
the sugar refining business. The site of the house
and garden is now worth about 15,OOOZ.
With the sale of the Sea Gait mansion the con-
nexion of the Wiedemann family with Dundee
practically ceased. It is curious that nearly a
century (1787-1882) elapsed before that connexion
was brought into notice by a casual remark from
the lips of the poet. It seems that William
Wiedemann removed to London after the house
was sold, and his daughter Sarah (Anna) Wiede-
mann in 1808 was a member of York Street
Independent Chapel, Lock's Fields, Walworth,
Surrey, under the ministry of the Rev. George
Clayton. She was married to Robert Browning
(06. 1865) in 1811, and the poet was born one
year afterwards (7 May, 1812) at their home in
Southampton Street, Camberwell. The death of
Mrs. Browning (nee Wiedemann) is thus recorded
in the Gentleman's Magazine, May, 1849, New
Series, vol. xxxi. p. 557 : " March 18. Sarah-
Anna, wife of Robert Browning, Esq., of New
Cross, Hatcham." DANIEL HIPWELL.
NOTES ON THE BECKFORD FAMILY.
Cyrus Redding, according to F. 0. in the
Journal of the Jamaica Institute for December,
1893, was not sure of the Christian name of the
Beckford whom he makes the head of the family
who settled in Jamaica about the time of the
Restoration. This Beckford in the genealogical
table in the article of F. C. is put down as " -
Beckford (of Maidenhead), tailor." This same
Beckford was more evidently Richard Beckford,
who is described in Liber i. folio 31 of Patents in
the Island Record Office, Jamaica, as " Richard
Beckford, sittizen and clothworker of London"
(17 May, 1662)— that is to say, if we accept the
term "clotbworker " as synonymous with a high-
class tailor of the period, to which grade Richard
Beckford no doubt had risen at that date. His
son Thomas, Sheriff of London, 1677, is described
in the same genealogical table as "clothworker."
8" S. XI. APRIL 3, W.]
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263
The description I have given above'rof Richard
Beckford occurs in the record of a bond for 200Z.
given by one Philip Ward, "now bound for a voyage
to Jamaica, in that good frigott or vessell called
the Diamond Frigott," for " 4 score & 191 & 12«.
to invest in goods and merchantable commodities,
tobacco excepted " (12 March, 1660).
F. C. holds that Lord Braybrooke, in his note to
Pepys's * Diary/ meant the first Peter Beckford of
Jamaica, as the first also of the family who migrated
to this island. But here is the note of my Lord
Braybrooke, or rather first let me give what Pepys
wrote : —
"6th [January, 1660/1]. The great Tom Fuller came
to me to desire a kindness for a friend of his who hath a
mind to go to Jamaica with these two ships that are
going, which 1 promised to do."
Now for the note of my lord : —
" Peter Beckford, who resided in Dr. Fuller's neigh-
bourhood. Mr. Beckford, of Maidenhead, tailor, left
two sons, one of whom, Thomas, a clothworker, became
Sheriff of London, and was knighted on the 29 Dec.,
1677. He is the slopseller mentioned postea, Feb. 21,
lb67/8. His brother, Peter Beckford, probably the
person alluded to in Jan. 1, 1668/9, had a son of the
same names, who rose to the rank of colonel in the army,
having estates in Jamaica, and settling in that island.
He became President of the Council there in the latter
part of Charles II. 's reign ; was made Governor and
Commander-in-Chief by William III., and died immensely
rich. Governor Beckford had a son of the same names,
who was father of the well-known Alderman Beckford,
and grandfather of the late owner of Fonthill."
I cannot glean from either of the foregoing
extracts that Peter Beckford was positively the
one alluded to. The Eecords of Jamaica show,
historically, facts, not surmises. If Pepys had in-
fluence at the Admiralty, of which he was an official,
to be used " in favour of a friend " in January,
1660/1, it must have been about the time Ward
was thinking of coming to Jamaica. The " friend "
alluded to might have been either Peter Beckford
or Richard Beckford. The first Beckford who
received a patent of land in Jamaica was Edward
Beckford in 1666. The first Peter Beckford's
patent was in 1669, three years after. It is more
likely that Beckford (either Peter or Richard) was
seeking a passage for Philip Ward, who was no
doubt endeavouring to go in the " Diamond
Frigott," one of the two vessels mentioned by Tom
Fuller, under convoy of ships of war, as was the
custom then during time of war ; for at that time
France and Spain were at war. Richard Cromwell
had previously concluded peace with the latter
power, but England was then all but at war with
her again, the Caribbean seas being the arena for
the famous depredations by the buccaneers or pri-
vateers of all three powers. The bond was dated
660, but in 1662 Beckford— not having heard, I
suppose, any good or proper account of his adven-
ture—had the bond duly proved in London, and
sent it, possibly by advice of Edward Beckford,
doubtless a near relative. The date of the patent
to Edward Beckford is 25 March, 1662, and the
probate of the bond referred to is 17 May, 1662.
The three months between the settling of Edward
Beckford in Jamaica and the probate of the bond
is about the length of time it would take in those
days to convey from Edward to his relative in
England intelligence that he had comfortably
settled in Jamaica. By this time, 1662, Richard
Beckford had risen higher in the world ; for this
record in question in the Island Record Office of
Jamaica describes him as " Richard Beckford, of
London, merchant." The document of record is a
power of attorney to
" Robert Castles, of Bast Greenwich, in the county of
Kent, merchant...... now bound forth on a voyage to the
island of Jamaica, in America, and John Goaling, now
resident att Jamaica to receive from Philip Ward
20GJ., according to his bond of 20 March, 1660, forfeited
for default."
This power of attorney is also dated 17 May, 1662,
The signature of Richard Beckford is attested by
" Joseph Mousley, servant of Mr. Richard Beck-
ford, cittizen and clothworker of London," on the
same date. G. F. J.
Saint Jago de la Vega, Jamaica.
SANS Souci THEATRE, LEICESTER PLACE.—*
Where was this theatre situated ? It appears to
have been on the east side of the street, but I can-
not identify the site on the Ordnance map. Dibdin
says : —
" The theatre I had occupied had been at different
times converted to various uses. It had been formerly
the exhibition room of the Royal Academy, before,
however, that body were [sic] incorporated. It was
afterwards possessed by the Members of the Arts and
Sciences, next it fell into the hands of the Polygraphic
Society, then into mine under the title of San Soucis [sic],
and it is now, as I understand, a Jews' synagogue."—
DibdinVLife,'iv. 5.
Dibdin's recollections are confused and are not
to be relied on. Mr. J. Hollingshead, writing in
1892, says :—
" Chief Baron Nicholson mentions about 1820 the Sana
Souci Siloon. a gambling house, attached to the San
Souci Theatre. The theatre was opened by subscription
in 1832 for vaudeville. In 1834 it was occupied by a
French company, and is now part of the Hotel Versailles."
The theatre is vaguely described as having been
on the site of the "Feathers Tavern," Leicester
Square, and Nos. 1 and 2, Leicester Place. Lei-
cester House was pulled down in 1790, and Lei-
cester Place and Lisle Street built on the site.
The houses in Leicester Place were, it appears, all
completed in 1797, but there was a gap or vacant
plot at that date, on which Dibdin built a theatre
in twelve weeks. The theatre Dibdin describes as
being the exact size of the old Lyceum Theatre, in the
Strand, and he was enabled to use his old scenery
and properties without alteration. JOHN HEBB.
Willesden Green, N.W.
264
NOTES AND QUERIES. [8«>s.xi.APRiL3,'9r.
"MALIGNA LUX." (See ante, p. 26.)— MR.
S. 0. ADDY remarks that in England twilight was
formerly regarded as malignant or unkindly, and
refers to the Latin expression maligna lux, I sup-
pose in corroboration of his statement. Surely,
however, the meaning of maligna in the above
expression is not malignant, but scanty, niggardly,
insufficient, as in Virgil's '^neid,' vi. 270-1 :—
Quale per incertam lunam sub luce maligna
Eat iter in silvis.
Of. Martial's similar use of the epithet :—
Tepet igne maligno
Hie focus, ingenti lumine lucet ibi.
F. C. BIRKBECK TERRY.
"BETWEEN THE SHRINE AND THE STONE." —
Erasmus, in a letter to Pirkheimer, says : —
"Conscience has run wild; abandoned profligates
quote Luther's books as an excuse for licentiousness,
while the quiet and the good are between the shrine
and the stone."— Froude, ( Life and Letters of Erasmus,'
1894, p. 309.
This seems to be a proverbial expression, but I
have not met with it elsewhere, and the meaning
is not quite apparent. JAMES HOOPER.
Norwich.
BURNING CHRISTMAS DECORATIONS. — I have
recently been reminded that it is " very bad luck "
to burn the evergreens that have been used for
Christmas decorations. I do not remember to have
seen this in print, but it is a common piece of folk-
lore. C. 0. B.
GEORGE ANNE BELLAMY. (See ante, p. 64.) —
This was the real name of this once celebrated
actress (who was born in 1731 and died in 1788),
and not Georgina or Georgiana, as she was styled
many years ago by a writer in ' N. & Q. ' and by
many others. She was thus named from having
been born on St. George's Day, 23 April, the same
day which is said to have seen the birth and
death of Shakspeare. She was usually called Mrs.
Bellamy, a customary appellation of unmarried
ladies in those days, and was supposed to be a
natural daughter of Lord Tyrawley. There is a
long and interesting account of her career in the
* Komance of the English Stage,' by Percy Fitz-
gerald, vol. i. pp. 104-205. The absurdities of the
stage dress of that day are thus mentioned : —
"It will be likewise seen from it, that the dress of the
gentlemen, both of the sock and buskin, was full as
absurd as that of the ladies. Whilst the empresses and
queens appeared in black velvet, and, upon extraordinary
occasions, with the additional finery of an embroidered
or tissue petticoat ; and the younger part of the females in
cast gowns of persons of quality, or altered habits rather
soiled, the male part of the actors strutted in tarnished
laced coats and waistcoats, full-bottom or tye wigs, and
black worsted stockings. "—Vol. i. pp. 112-3.
There is a large mezzotint portrait of this actress,
representing her as a handsome woman in the
prime of life, three-quarter length, wearing an
ample black velvet petticoat outspread by a hoop,
over it a short dress or sacque, and having a tower-
ing headdress. JOHN PICKFORD, M.A.
Newbourne Rectory, Woodbridge.
LONDON'S BIG DIRECTORY. — I have often won-
dered why this enormous conglomeration of the
printer's art should as a finding book present the
most opposite features of a directory to be found in
any part of the English-speaking world. The
crudest imaginings of an Indian chief, joined to
those of his Imperial Majesty the Emperor of
China, assisted by a German professor, could never
all combined have concocted an address book better
calculated to puzzle the stranger in an effort to
obtain through its aid a desired name and address.
It is singular that London, the most important
business centre on the face of the globe, does not
enjoy the advantage of an alphabetically arranged
index of its adult inhabitants, similar to the kind
given to the peoples of New York, Chicago, Boston,
Philadelphia, and other large American cities. The
daily indignant cries of the visitor in England's
metropolis (coming from a land where a genuine
directory is made) seeking assistance from its
columns, must be loud and deep enough to move
the very walls of St. Paul's. Perhaps the English-
man's profound awe for this big volume proceeds
purely from the fact that to master its contents a
commentary is absolutely necessary. But surely
a directory ought to be as simply arranged as a
dictionary of words ! Why not ?
YANKEE TRAVELLER.
FIT a= FOUGHT. — One would have thought this
an Americanism ; but I find it in Garrick's ' Miss
in her Teens,' where Tag says to Flash, "0, pray
let me see you fight ; there were two gentlemen
fit yesterday," &c. (Act II.).
KICHARD H. THORNTON.
Portland, Oregon.
A CURIOUS NOTICE. — I enclose a cutting from
a bookseller's catalogue, in which is the following
announcement : —
"Shakespeare. — The Hamlet, an Ode, written by
Thomas Warton, square 8vo., 14 etchings by Birket
Foster, half cloth, 4s., 1840."
In Chalmers's ' English Poets,' xviii. 100, I find
T. Warton's ode entitled * The Hamlet '; and it
is all about a small village. From this it would
appear that there are more Hamlets than one.
WALTER W. SKEAT.
SLAVONIC PLACE-NAMES IN GREECE.— Greece,
as is well known, teems with Slavonic place-
names, which were transplanted, many centuries
ago, by the northern invaders from the old to their
new homes, even without fitting their new localities.
A noteworthy instance of this habit may be found
in the name of a Greek village "Beresova.1
Beresa, in Kussian and in the other Slavonic
NOTES AND QUERIES.
265
languages, means a birch, hence Beresova is liter-
ally =JBirchfield, or a place covered with birches.
Now the birch, as everybody knows, grows chiefly
in northern countries, but it was never indigenous
in Greece. Greece has never seen a birch tree,
and yet it has a "Birch-field." (Of. Fallmerayer's
famous treatise on the ' Origin of the Modern
Greeks/ in German, 8vo., Stuttgart, 1835.)
H. KREBS.
Oxford.
"WHEELMAN." — When I wrote the note at
p. 471 of last volume, I accepted the statement
that we obtained this word from America. But
it appears to be English. I have just been to Bath.
On the shelters I read " Wheelmen's rest." I said
to some men who appeared to me to be Bath-chair-
men, " What do you call that 1 " (pointing to a
Bath-chair). The reply was, " A wheel-chair."
4 Then where are the Bath-chairs ? " " Oh ! those
are Bath-chairs ; but we always call them wheel-
chairs." "Then what do you call yourself?"
' Well, we call ourselves ' drawing masters '; but
in the Post- Office Directory you will find us under
'wheel-chairmen.'" KALPH THOMAS.
LEWISHAM. — I have nowhere seen a correct
explanation of Lewisham; but it is not particularly
difficult.
We find in Kemble's 'Charters' the phrase
Leofsuhdema mearc, i. e., the " mark " of the
inhabitants of Leofsuhdm ; see the ' Crawfurd
Collection of Charters,' by Napier and Stevenson,
1895, p. 116.
Leofsu' obviously stands for Leofsuna, gen. of
Leofsunu (lit. dear son), which is a well-known
A.-S. name. In fact, it survives as Leveson, which,
as many are aware, is pronounced Lewson. Simi-
larly, Leofsu1 -ham regularly became Lews'am, and
was spelt phonetically as Lusam in the seventeenth
century. After this, a popular etymology sub-
stituted the well-known name Lewis for the
unintelligible Lus- ; and nowadays one is expected
to pronounce the name as if it had three syllables.
Etymologically, it has now only two syllables,
though it began with four, which were reduced to
three in very early times.
WALTER W. SKEAT.
THE 39TH FOOT.— At the conclusion of Mr.
Frederick Dixon's article, 'The Battle of Val,' in
Temple Bar for March, this sentence occurs : —
'The 39th ia proud that it alone has the right to
'lassy,' and the motto « Primus in India,' yet no man in
nrould pretend that the soldiers who stood with Olive
in that decisive field were called upon to display a
Mure of the heroism of those of the 44th, forcing
P pitiful way from the ramparts of Cabul to their
•ave between the precipices of the Jugdulluck."
Kr. Dixon might wisely have left the 39th to
: well-earned glories, for the reference to the
th is not to the point. Heroism may be that of
gallant defence where escape is impossible, as at
Lucknow, or of gallant attack where men deli-
berately choose the path of tremendous danger to
rescue a beleaguered garrison, as in the relief of
Lucknow ; but unquestionably those who thus
risk their lives in the endeavour to save others
rank higher in the scale of military glory than do
their brothers in arms who are fighting for bare
existence. In the Cabul retreat the case was
hopeless from the first. The one desperate effort
was to evade an enemy who, secure in their impreg-
nable heights, at their ease massacred the retreating
army, worn out with privation and benumbed with
cold. There may have been great deeds performed
during that pitiful retreat, but the sole survivor
was Dr. Bryden, and we know almost nothing of
what occurred. My own father, for instance, lost
his life in the pass, but where he fell no one can
say, and so it was with all the rest. The case of
the 39th at Plassy is not in the very slightest like
that of the 44th at Cabul. The 39th were actors
and principal performers in one of the most
splendid victories ever won by the British arms,
and may justly be proud of their part in that
engagement, in which they so heroically upheld the
honour of England. How can Plasey be brought
for the sake of comparison into line with the
retreat from Cabul ? which last, far from being a
matter of the smallest congratulation, was about
the most disgraceful repulse our forces have ever
sustained. Fight as gallantly as the 44th pro-
bably did, their heroism was self-centred, and
therefore cannot rank, and has never for over fifty
years been allowed to rank, as redounding in
exceptional honour to those concerned in that
terrible retreat. This being so, it is idle to bracket
the heroism of men fighting, however bravely, for
dear life, with a heroism that bore all before it
in that great day which, it may be affirmed, secured
our possession of India. CENTURION.
FIELD- MARSHAL STUDHOLME HODGSON.— The
following facts relating to the conqueror of Belle
Isle have been omitted by his biographer from the
1 Diet, of Nat. Biog.,' and are worthy of being
recorded.
Studholme Hodgson was son of John Hodgson
of Wormanby, in the parish of Burgh, near Carlisle.
His father, who was a collector of customs, came
of a very respectable family, which had been settled
at Wormanby since 1500, having migrated
there from Yorkshire (Miscellanea Genealogica et
Heraldica, New Series, i. 154). After serving
several years on his personal staff, the Duke of
Cumberland bestowed on Studholme Hodgson the
rangership of West Lodge, Windsor, which was
also granted to him at subsequent periods by the
Dukes of York and Gloucester. Of Hodgson's
private life little is known. His grandson, the
late General Studholme John Hodgson, of Argyll
266
NOTES AND QUERIES. cs* s. xi. APRIL 3, '97.
Hall, Torquay, furnished the writer with the
following memoranda : —
" Most of the field-marshal's papers were destroyed at
a fire which consumed the ranger's house at Windsor —
among them was the history of his own career ; but of
paramount interest was his MS. biography of the Duke
of Cumberland (Culloden), pronounced a wonderful pro-
duction by many well-known personages of the day, such
as Field-Marshal Sir Alured Clarke and Sir Robert Adair,
and which would have handed down the duke to posterity
in a very different light from which it has been done by
the Jacobite faction of that day."
The fact is worth noting that the colonelcy of
the King's Own Regiment was held by the field-
marshal for fourteen years, by his son for eleven
years, and by his grandson for fourteen years.
CHARLES DALTON.
32, West Cromwell Eoad, S.W.
THE DEATH OF Miss ROSA BATHURST. — In
1 1 Poeti Italiani Modern!,' by Miss Louisa Meri-
vale, is a poem in six stanzas by Alessandro
Poerio, supposed to be on the fate of this lady,
drowned in the Tiber, May, 1824. It is entitled
' In Morte di una Giovinetta Inglese, caduta
nel Tevere,' and a prefatory note says : —
" This poem is probably in allusion to the fate of Miss
Rosa Bathurst, drowned in the Tiber, May, 1824. Her
body was not recovered till some time after the accident.
She was the daughter of Benjamin Bathurst, Esq., whose
disappearance fifteen years before, when employed as a
political agent on the Continent, has always remained an
impenetrable mystery."
The first stanza of the poem is here transcribed :—
Non fur di Giovinezza
Piu rugiadose mai, ne piti odorate
Membra, ne" forme di schietta Bellezza
A piu secreta Leggiadria sposate.
Ella si nacque del Tamigi in riva
Ma d' Italia 1' amor come natura
Nell' alma le fioriva. P. 380.
It is curious that both father and daughter should
have met their death under such mysterious cir-
cumstances. He was the son, it is needless almost
to mention, of Henry Bathurst, Bishop of Norwich,
who died in 1834. JOHN PICKFORD, M.A.
"TONGUE- BATTERIES. "—In his essay on ' Some
Aspects of Robert Burns,' p. 54 et seq., R. L.
Stevenson dwells, with express and vehement
reiteration, on Burns's "celebrated process of
' battering himself into a warm affection,' " with-
out giving a hint of his being aware that the
expression has Shakspearian authority. In
' 1 Hen. VI.,' III. iii. 78, Burgundy exclaims :—
I am vanquished : these haughty words of hers
Have batter'd me like roaring cannon-shot.
In c Samson Agonistes,' 1. 404, Milton makes
Samson say of Dalila, —
With blandish'd parlies, feminine assaults,
Tongue-batteries, she surceas'd not day nor night
To storm me.
Stevenson apparently credits Burns with being
not only heartless, but coarse, whereas the strong
likelihood is that Burns wrote with the Elizabeth-
anism in his mind. He was not an ardent reader
for nothing. THOMAS BAYNE.
Helensburgh, N.B.
STATUE OF KING WILLIAM IN DUBLIN. (See
'Straps,' 8th S. ix. 468 ; x. 11, 63, 162, 286.)— Some
little time ago the query was raised in your columns
as to who was the designer of the equestrian statue
in College Green, Dublin. The answer is given
in the enclosed cutting from the Irish Times,
22 Oct., 1896. The volume referred to is the
sixth of ' The Calendar of Ancient State Records
in Dublin,' edited by the eminent antiquary Dr,
J. T. Gilbert :—
" The documents contained in this volume exhibit
some strange and even startling facts. We learn that
early in the year 1700 the civic assembly of Dublin
resolved to erect a statue of William III. 'in copper
or mixed metal '; and there is the remarkable record
that in April, 1700, Henry Glegg and John Moore, of
Dublin, under authority from the Lord Mayor and
Sheriffs, contracted with Orinling Gibbons for the exe-
cution of the work for eight hundred pounds. On the
taking down of St. Paul's Gate, Dublin, in the earae
year, directions were given that a sufficient quantity of
the stones should be applied to make the pedestal on
which the king's statue was to stand. Dr. Gilbert says
in a note that Gibbons's execution of the statue of
William III. for Dublin has not hitherto been noticed.
The monument now will be regarded as of much higher
interest by Dublin citizens. It is established upon
ancient civic stones, and it is the work of a noble artist,
a specimen of whose carving in wood Trinity College is
proud to possess, and to give a prominent place of honour
to over the door of the dining hall. From time to time
attempts were made to injure the statue, and there is
an account of the measures that were taken to preserve
it."
H. C. HART.
We must request correspondents desiring information
on family matters of only private interest to affix their
names and addresses to their queries, in order that the
answers may be addressed to them direct.
DURHAM COAT ARMOUR. — On behalf of the
Shirley Armorial Society I shall be glad if any
correspondents of ' N. & Q.' can contribute pedi-
grees or particulars of the descendants of any of
the following eighteenth and nineteenth century
armigerous persons or families, culled from Surtees's
( Durham ' and kindred works as well as from local
knowledge.
Durham families.
Addison-Fountain, Middleton St. George and Leeds*
Bainbridge, Carlebury.
Bates, Newbottle.
Brown, Stockton and Thornaby.
Chambers, Wardenlaw.
Cole of Shotton.
Craggp, Wysel als. Wiserley, ph. Wolsingham,
Darling (formerly Barker), Stockton.
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267
Darling, Major-General.
Dickson, Stockton.
Bllerker (late Cueto), Hart.
Forsyth-Forrest, South Shields and Westoe.
Garthorne. Roodford.
Gordon, Whitworth.
Gowland, Little Eppleton.
Gowland, Sunderland.
Green, Major- General.
Grieveson, Findon Hill, Witton Gilbert.
Grisewood, Durham.
James, Deckham Hill.
Jones, Sunderland, Liverpool, &c.
Lipscomb, Wm., D.D., Master of St. John's Hospital,
Barnard Castle, died 1842.
Lynn, Norton.
Maddison (formerly Rawling), Watergate and Bintley.
Page (formerly Seymour).
Peacock, Burn Hall.
Powles (formerly Harrison), Darlington and Oockerton.
Rowntree, Sfcockton-on-Teea.
Sanderson, of Hedley Hope.
Sharp, late Sir Cuthbert.
Spencer (formerly Shield), Helmington Hall.
Sutton (formerly Hutchinson), Stockton.
Taylor, Swalewell, Whickham, and West Chopwell.
Wade (formerly Bexley), Scots House, Boldon.
Walton, Sunnyside, Lanchester.
Wilkinson, of Norton, &c.
Woodifield, Horden Hill
Wright (formerly Ord), Sands and Sedgefield.
13, Bruton Street, Bond Street.
J. FOSTER.
BALLAD. — An outlaw in one of the midland
forests is surprised by two keepers, who, after
some altercation, threaten him with short shrift.
He replies that if this be the case
The bow that did him a turn by Nith
Shall do the same by Derwent.
The mention of Nith brings up happy memories
to one of the keepers, who says : —
Ah ! Nith ! thou gentle river,
When a bairn I ran along thy banks,
Like an arrow from the quiver,
And the tongue that calls thee by a gentle name
Shall be dear to Geordie Gordon.
Whereupon the outlaw sees his chance, and appeals
to Geordie's vanity as follows : —
The outlaw smiled, 'twas a soldier's smile,
' The Gordons blyth and ready
Ne'er stooped the plumes of their basnets bright
Save to a winsome lady."
Geordie, flattered, finally arranges to give the out-
law the " good-law of the Border," i. e., he must
a stag, obtain a certain start, and then save
himself as best he can from his pursuers. The
outlaw accepts the terms, kills a stag "fit for a
sing's larder," is given the start, and makes off as
hard as he can, followed by his pursuers. They
are upon him as he approaches Haddon Hall,*
rom the battlements of which his lady-love is
encouraging him. The pursuers raise their eyes,
T
Haddon Hall may be. incorrect, but it is on the
^erw.ent.
halt, and meanwhile the outlaw crosses the draw-
bridge and escapes. The above, or something
very like it, is the story, as nearly as my corre-
spondent can remember it, of a ballad, the source
and name of which I seek. NEWSTBAD.
" BURS "= OXEN.— Edward Lisle, in his 'Ob-
servations in Husbandry* (1757), p. 267 (English
Dialect Soc., No. 30, p. 58), says that Welsh
cattle "are thick-hided, especially the burs, i.e.,
the oxen. " Lisle was a Hampshire man, and made
frequent journeys to Dorsetshire, Wiltshire, the
Isle of Wight, and Leicestershire. Is this word
known as a living word in these parts, or in any
other parts of the United Kingdom 1 Lisle is at
present our sole authority for the word.
THE EDITOR OF
'THE ENGLISH DIALECT DICTIONARY.'
The Clarendon Press, Oxford.
" SITTING BODKIN." — What is the origin of this
phrase ? It has recently been suggested to me
that a place in which to set a sword (or bodkin)
used to exist in the old travelling coach or chariot
between the two occupants of the " front seat."
0. L. FELTOE.
STOCQUELER. — Could any reader furnish bio-
graphical details of Joachim Hay ward Stocqueler,
a journalist, who compiled a number of military
books, such as * The Wellington Manual,' Calcutta,
1840, and a ' History of the Horseguards,' London,
1873 ? His works range between these two dates,
and he seems further to have published at Washing-
ton in 1886 a ' Shakespearean Referee.' T. S.
15, Waterloo Place.
LIEUT. - COL. HENRY STURGEON was com-
missioned as second lieutenant in the Royal
Artillery 1 Jan., 1796, served with distinction in
the Peninsula under Wellington, and was killed
near Vic Bigorre, 19 March, 1814 (Napier). I
should be much obliged for any clue to his parent-
age or birthplace. T. S.
15, Waterloo Place.
CHELMSFORD MURDER. — Where can I find a
copy of verses on the following subject ? An inn-
keeper at the " Saracen's Head," Chelmsford, mur-
dered his own son instead of the traveller who
was lodging with him, whom he intended to rob of
his money to pay his son's debts. The verses
appeared about thirty years ago in a London
magazine. W. SHEPPARD POLE.
LONGFELLOW'S ADDRESS AT HARVARD. —
Where can Longfellow's address, delivered at the
jubilee* of Harvard College, be obtained ?
M.A.CAMB.
Bath.
Miss FAIRBROTHER.— Can any of your readers
tell me of whom Miss Fairbrother, t^e cel^brat^d
268
NOTES AND QUERIES. [8«.s.xi.ApBn.s,'97.
actress, was the daughter ? I have always under-
stood that she belonged to an old Gloucestershire
family named Ebsworth ; but I should like cor-
roboration of this. Is her father's Dame known ?
CHARLES BULLOCK.
McQiLLicuDDY. — I am advised by one who
claims to be posted to write to you in reference to
the origin, derivation, and history of my family
name, the McGillicuddy, of the Reeks, County
Kerry. I understand that Longman, Green &
Co. once published a work entitled ' The McGilli-
cuddy Papers/ compiled from the original records,
that traced the name from the third century to
date. Then a chaplain of the McGillicuddy also
wrote and published a work on the name. Any
information or assistance along that line will be
duly appreciated by T. D. McGiLLicuDDT.
Akron, Ohio,
PEPPBRCORN KENT.— What is the origin of the
name u peppercorn rent," applied to a rent that is
merely nominal ? The question was asked in
'N. & Q.,' 3rd S. x. 91, but the editorial note
which answered it did not go into the origin or
explanation of the name. One would have ex-
pected that some indigenous grain would have been
chosen rather than an exotic one. Where does the
name first occur ? B. W. S.
EPIGRAMMATIC INSCRIPTION.— Will any of your
readers give me a clue to the origin of the follow-
ing epigrammatic inscription ? It appears to be
monastic, but I cannot trace it. " Nomine Cedda
tenet templum, sed numine Christus. In sede
bJlc Ceddse. Christe benigne, sede."
JOHN W. BRADLEY,
Librarian and Assistant Secretary.
William Salt Archaeological Society, Stafford.
HAND OF GLORY : THIEVES' CANDLES. (See 4th
S. ix. 238, 289, 376, 436, 455 ; x. 39 ; 8th S. x. 71,
445.)— Is there any foundation for the suggestion
that this phrase has a Celtic origin in hand elloree
or gilry, as set forth at 4th S. ix. 376 ? How is
the thieves' candle described in ' Les Secrets du
Petit Albert' (Lion, 1751) ? Is it called the hand
of glory in Arabic, in mediaeval Latin, or in any
European language ? Q. V.
THE MACKIRDY FAMILY.— lam preparing for
publication the genealogy, history, and traditions
of the MacKirdy family, including a complete
genealogical classification and a pedigree chart of
all the MacKirdys, so far as possible, in Scotland,
Ireland, and America. In this work I have the
co-operation of the eminent historical writers, Mrs.
Evelyn MacCurdy Salisbury, only child of the late
3on. Charles J. MacCurdy, LL.D. (Yale), Judge
of the Supreme Court and U.S. Minister to Austria,
and her husband, Prof. Edward E. Salisbury, LL.D.
(Harvard and Yale), formerly of the Faculty of
Yale ; and of General Thomas MacCurdy Vincent,
a distinguished officer of the U.S. army. We should
be very thankful for any information, or suggestions
as to sources of information, upon the following
queries : —
1. A statement has reached America from the
north of Ireland, in regard to the Scotch-Irish
MacCurdys, that about 1666 five brothers of the
name of MacKirdy, driven by religious persecution
from Scotland, took an open boat and crossed from
Bate to the north of Ireland, landed near the
Giant's Causeway, and settled at Ballintoy, co.
Antrim, where some of their descendants have
remained ever since. It is stated that Pethric Mac-
Kirdy (Patrick McOardy, in Ireland), who seems
to have been the most prominent brother, was in
the siege of Derry and was an officer in the battle
of the Boyne. We should be glad to have addi-
tional data relative to the above statements and
information about the ancestry of these five Mac-
Kirdy brothers.
2. It is further stated that Pethric MacKirdy,
who came from Scotland to Ireland about 1666,
married Margaret Stewart, a descendant of
Robert II., King of Scotland, and that whenever a
new sovereign ascends to the throne of Great Britain
a payment of "crown money" is made to their
descendants. It is said that when Queen Victoria
came to the throne officers of the crown went to
Ballintoy in Ireland, traced the descendants of
Margaret Stewart in the MacCurdy line, and paid
"crown money" to a Patrick MacCurdy and his
four brothers and a sister, each payment being
about 100Z. If this is so, the ancestry of Patrick
MacCurdy must be recorded in some public office.
We should be grateful for further particulars in
reference to these statements, suggestions as to how
we may obtain a confirmation of the facts, and
information about the ancestry of Margaret
Stewart.
3. We have the statement that John MacCurdy,
son of Pethric MacKirdy, who came from Scot-
land to Ireland about 1666, married a MacQuillan,
of Dunluce Castle, in Ireland, and that she
descended from the great De Burgh family.
Can any person throw additional light upon this
subject? Any information in reference to these
queries, or about the MacKirdy genealogy, history,
and traditions, will be much appreciated. We
are making these inquiries solely for genealogical
purposes. IBWIN POUNDS MACCURDY.
South-western Presbyterian Church, Philadelphia, U.S.
Louis PANORMO. — I am interested in the history
of the guitar. Are there any descendants of Louis
Panormo, who in 1846 lived in High Street,
Bloomsbury ; and where do they reside ?
R. M. EYTON.
BISHOPS CONSECRATED IN 1660.— How many
bishops were consecrated at Westminster on Ad-
8»s. xi. Arms, wo NOTES AND QUERIES.
269
vent Sunday, 1660 ? I have a contemporary copy
of William Sancroft's well-known sermon, which
purports to have been then preached " at the Con-
secration of the Right Reverend Fathers in God
John Lord Bishop of Durham, William Lord
Bishop of St. David's, Bengjamin [sic] Lord Bishop
of Peterborough, Hugh Lord Bishop of Landaff,
Richard Lord Bishop of Carlisle, Brian Lord Bishop
of Chester, and John Lord Bishop of Exeter."
The Latin dedication is addressed to John of
Durham, and the motto (not the text) of the dis-
course is "Septem Stellse Angeli sunt Septem
Ecclesiarum." But the Hon. and Rev. A. P.
Perceval, in his work on the ' Apostolical Succes-
sion/ 1839 (Rivingtons), states that William Lucy,
Hugh Lloyd, and John Gauden were consecrated
for St. David's, Llandaff, and Exeter respectively,
on 18 Nov., 1660, and Benjamin Lany singly for
Peterborough on 2 Dec., 1660, which was Advent
Sunday. He does not mention Durham, Carlisle,
or Chester all through the reign of Charles II.
'Brian Lord Bishop of Chester" looks a little
like Brian Duppa ; but he, according to Perceval,
never was Bishop of Chester, though he was
translated to Winchester in 1660.
RICHARD H. THORNTON.
Portland, Oregon.
BOTANICAL NAME WANTED.— I shall leel
obliged if any botanist can tell me the Latin name
of a Chinese fruit called shan-cha, which resembles
a cherry, but grows upon a kind of a hawthorn.
It is widely used, in the form of a paste, as confec-
tionery, and is reputed excellent for promoting
appetite and digestion. JAS. PLATT, Jun.
BEAU BRUMMELL. — Who were his parents, when
was he born, when did he die 1 Did he marry ?
When did he enter and leave the army ?
E. E. THOYTS.
[Have you consulted Jesse's * Life ' ?]
FLORA MACDONALD. — Can any of your readers
inform me if there are any papers in existence
giving a full account of her visit to the Dowager
Lady Primrose, in Essex Street, Strand, after her
release from the Tower in 1747, when she was
visited by a number of distinguished people, and
her portrait was taken by Hogarth and other
artists? J. RENDALL.
22, Loughborough Road, Brixton.
AUTHORS OF QUOTATIONS WANTED. —
Thou unrelenting Past, strong are the barriers round thy
dark domain.
Thou hast my better years, thou hast my earlier friends;
5fet thou shalt yield thy treasures up at last,
Thy gates shall yet give way, thy bolts shall fail, in-
exorable Past. M.A.CAMB.
Can it be, 0 Christ in heaven,
That the holiest suffer most,
That the strongest wander furthest
And more hopelessly are
<?, C.
THE PRONUNCIATION OP PEPYS.
(8th S. xi. 187.)
As I have been called upon by ST. SWITHIN to
express an opinion as to the pronunciation of the
surname Pepys, I will attempt to put the case in
a few words, although I have really nothing to add
to what I have said in the preface to the first
volume of the new edition of the * Diary.' There
are, as will be seen from Mr. Ashby Sterry's lines,
three received pronunciations : (1) The popular one
is certainly Peps, but there does not seem to be
any special authority for this. (2) Peppis is the
pronunciation adopted by the branch of the family
represented by the Earl of Cottenham. The Hon.
Walter Pepys has collected seventeen varieties of
the spelling of the name, and he lays some stress
upon the French form Pepy as authority for the
pronunciation favoured by him. (3) Peeps seems
to follows the usual practice, as Weems for Wemys,
and, moreover, it is that adopted by the descend-
ants of the diarist's sister Paulina, the family of
Pepys Cockerell. Peeps is also the traditional
pronunciation adopted at Cambridge. Here is,
I think, strong evidence in favour of Peeps. At
the same time, I believe that in this name, as in
other words, the pronunciation of the vowel e has
changed since the seventeenth century, and that the
name in Pepys's own day was actually pronounced
Pdpes. This opinion is grounded on the phonetic
spellings Peaps and Peyps which have come down
to us, and both these would represent Papes:
ea=a, as in yea, break, great ; ei/=a, as in obey
and they. In this matter, however, I have not the
courage of my opinion, and I am not, therefore,
prepared to adopt this pronunciation.
HENRY B. WHEATLEY.
On 2 Dec., 1663, one Jo. Knapp (calling himself
Dr. Medecinse) wrote to Pepys a letter, now in
my possession, in which he addresses the diarist as
" his hond friend Mr. Peeps, one of the Com'issioners
for ye Nauie Roiall," and I think that the pre-
sumption is that this was the way in which the
name was then pronounced. The letter is an
interesting one, doubtless the only specimen extant
of the handwriting of this obscure doctor. It is
unpublished, and runs thus : —
SR,— It may please you to remember that last weeke
I was with you about one George Gouye a chirurgion to
whom (for my sake) you candidly promised your aide
about the business of a place in one of his Mat!e Fngots
in such Capacitie as his function calls him to. I am
sorrie my Whitehall occasions draw soe vigorously con-
trarie to your end of the towne, else I might p'happes
have irritated Sir Jo. Mints [sic] to haue concurred m
the point, but I neyther doubt your power nor willing-
ness to bringe aboute the humble desires of him who is
Sir Your readie Ser: ad aras [sic] imperandus
Jo. KNAPP, dr. medecinae,
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
Five days after the receipt of this letter, i. e.9
on 7 Dec., 1663, Pepys makes the following note
in the ( Diary ' : —
" I met Dr. Clerke and fell to discourse of Dr. Knapp,
who tells me he is the king's physician, and ia become a
solicitor of places for people, and I am mightily troubled
with him.
" He tells me that he is the most impudent fellow in
the world, that gives himself out to be the King's
Physician, but is not so. But I may learn what im-
pudence is in this world, and how a man may he deceived
in persons."
Knapp's letter of 2 Dec. was clearly the cause
of Pepys's discourse with Dr. Clerke, and the diary
is thus elucidated by the discovery of the " im-
pudent fellow's " application.
J. ELIOT HODGKIN.
" HANDICAP" (8th S. xi. 247).— The materials
collected for the ' New English Dictionary ' are
very deficient in illustrations of handicap, sub-
stantive and verb. With the exception of three
earlier instances — viz., two in G. Daniel, c, 1650
(both unintelligible to me, one of which we cannot
even construe), and the well-known mention of a
"sport" of that name in Pepys, 19 Sept., 1660—
we have nothing before the present century. And
of the current use in racing, athletics, and contests
generally, we have no examples before 1864,
although the examples show that the word was
then already well known, and had come to be
applied to the race of life, and to competition
generally. It is true we have " a handicap plate
of 501" in 1806, and handicaps to be run for at
Newmarket in 1812; but nothing to tell what these
then were, and nothing about handicapping horses
then. Nor is the subject made plainer by a quota-
tion of 1832 from ' Memoir of Sir Jas. Campbell/
i. 300, " Buying horses by what is called handy-cap ;
a kind of lottery, which everybody knows." What
everybody knew in 1832 ought not to be quite
unknown sixty years later. May I draw upon the
readers of 'N. & Q.' generally to send me any
references to " handicap " which they can find before
1864, and any information which they may have as
to the senses of the word? In case any one can sug-
gest the meaning in G. Daniel's 'Idyll,' ii. 120
(anno 1653), I add the passage :—
Poore Hanniball, ia now in Banishment,
And seems now old to beg a Life : whose hand
Repreiv'd the world : ev'n those who now command
The inexorable Roman, were but what
One step had given : Handy-Capps in Pate :
He who (if Names be proper) frighted once
The Civell World : worne out, by Puissance
Of Faction : to a barbarous king doth flye,
And hoary, has but Power alone to Dye.
The sense here seems obscure enough.
J. A. H. MURRAY.
Oxford.
BISHOPS' WIGS (8th S. xi. 104, 174, 251).— The
statement that Bishop Monk, of Gloucester, wore
the episcopal wig regularly is hardly correct. He
did not wear it in the House of Lords, and he used
to state that William IV, (whose first bishop, I be-
lieve, he was, having been made bishop under
George IV., but having only kissed hands under
William IV.) discouraged the use of the wig.
Ut
WILKES (8th S. xi. 249).— The following is the
famous retort referred to. Speaking of the king
in the House of Lords at the time of his illness,
Lord Thurlow said, with tears in his eyes,
"< My debt of gratitude to His Majesty is ample for the
many favours which he has conferred upon me, and
when I forget it, may God forget me.' When Wilkes
heard of this speech he exclaimed, ' God forget you J
He '11 see you d— d first ! '
This is taken from Welsby's ' Lives of Eminent
Judges,' p. 511, and in Foss's ' Judges,' the edition
in one volume, this retort is also referred to ?
H. B. P.
Temple.
DR. JOHNSON'S TEAPOT (8th S. xi. 208).-
According to a statement in a recent " turn-over "
in the Globe (27 Jan.), this is preserved in Pem-
broke College, Oxford. E. G. CLAYTON.
' Nollekens and his Times ' relates the story of
the preservation of the doctor's silver teapot, and
gives a copy of the inscription upon it. Where is
this teapot now ? Pembroke College, Oxford, has
a china teapot, said to have belonged to the doctor.
XYLOGRAPHER.
CARVED ADDERS ON PULPITS (8th S. xi. 69, 192).
—Is not MR. HOBSON MATTHEWS mistaken in
regard to the tradition as to who slew this animal ?
At least, he differs from such an able folk-lorist as
Canon Silvan Evans, who, in his * Dictionary,'
under the word "Carrog," quoting from Ed.
Lhwyd, says that it was slain by Bach ab Carwed.
D. M. K.
"SUMMER' (8th S. x. 452).— I do not quite
perceive what object MR. JOHN HEBB has in view
in writing his note. He quotes Prof. Skeat's deri-
vation of " rummer," and then apparently seems
to think that he has discovered the inventor of
the word in The*ophile Gautier, "a notorious
coiner of words." MR. HEBB can hardly have
noticed that Prof. Skeat quotes fromDryden, 'Ep.
to Sir G. Etherege,' 1. 45, " Rhenish rummers walk
the round." The"ophile Gautier was born, I
believe, in 1811, whilst Dryden was born in 1631,
so the former can scarcely be regarded as the
" coiner" of the word. It might be interesting to
know when the Eomersaal at Frankfort was built
or first took the name.
F. C. BIRKBECK TERRY.
SCRIMSHAW FAMILY (8th S. x.51,261, 299,377).-
Sir John Talbot, Knt., of Graf ton and Al brighten,
in his will (without date), proved in 1549, men-
8"1 S. XI. APRIL S, '87.1
NOTES AND QUERIES.
271
tions his daughter, Dorothy Scrymshaw. This
lady was the wife of John Skrymsher, or Skrym-
shire, Esq., of Aqualate and Norbury, co. Stafford,
Lord of the Manors of Forton and Norbury. This
latter died in 1551, and in his burial entry in
the Norbury registers his name is written Skrym-
shire ; but in that of Dorothy, his widow, 5 Feb.,
1570/1, Skrymsher is the form used. Skrymsher,
too, appears in these registers in 1563, 1566, 1570,
1618, and 1619 ; but in 1616 there are entries of
Skrimsher, and in 1634 we have Skrimshere.
James, of Norbury, in his will, dated 1619, spells
his name throughout as Skrymsher. Walter, of
Orslow, co. Stafford, a great-grandson of John
Skrymsher, of Norbury, wrote his name Skrim-
shere in his will, dated 1685 ; but Mary, his
widow, reverted, in 1698, to Skrymsher. See her
will at Lichfield. 0. W. S.
It may be of interest to note that the families of
Scrimgeour of Bowhill (see * Ordinary of Scottish
Arms') and Scrimgeour of Myres (see Stodart's
' Scottish Arms ') had for heraldic bearings Gules,
two swords in saltire, points downwards, argent,
in base a sinister hand couped pointing downward
proper ; no doubt in allusion to the fencing match
when the Englishman's hand was cut off. These
families were both considered cadets of the Scrim-
geours of Dudhope, who bore, and whose descend-
ants still bear, the lions rampant holding scimetars.
J. OGILVY FAIRLIB.
Myres Castle, Fife.
Allow me to thank your correspondents ; but
may I be permitted to say that my main query
remains unanswered ? Can any of your correspond-
ents give me the history of Sir Edwin and Sir
Charles Scrimshaw, who were held in favour by
Charles? For what service did these gentlemen
receive grants of 1,OOOZ. from the king ] May I
say that the form Scrimshaw was well known in
the reign of James I. by the compilers of the state
papers? F. CARE.
;<Li MAISIE HIERLEKIN" (8th S. xi, 108, 174).
-For a curious legend in connexion with this
mythical personage see Walter Mapes 'De Nugis
Curialium ' (Camden Society), p. 14. He is there
called King Herla. Mr. Wright, in a note on
this story, says : —
"The Legend was ancient in our island: see an
instance in the 'Snxon Chronicle,' sub an. 1127. See
on the French Hellequin and on the different legends
concerning him M. Paulin Paris's ' Catalogue des MSS,
Frar^ais,' vol. i. p. 322 ; Me Livre des Legendes' of M. le
Roux de Lincy, pp. 148 and 240; the 'Chronique de
Benoit,' vol. ii. p. 336; and the 'Romant de Richart
filz de Robert le diable.' '
Herla, or as he is called at p. 180 Herlethingus, is
represented as paying what he considered to be a
three days' visit to the subterranean palace of a
pigmy, who at parting gave him a dog, with strict
injunctions that none of the party should alight
from their horses until the dog leapt from the arms
of his bearer. On regaining the outer world he
discovered that his visit had lasted more than two
hundred years, and one of the party alighting was
immediately turned to dust. "Canis autem
nondum descendit." At p. 180 we are told :
"Hsec hujus Herlethingi visa est ultimo familia
in Marchia Walliarum et Herefordiae anno primo
regni Henrici secundi circa meridiem." And that
the maisnie (not maisie as quoted by MR. HEBB)
consisted of "exercitus erroris infiniti, insani
circuitus, et attoniti silentii, in quo vivi multi
apparuerunt quos decessisse noverant." Herla is
said by Map to have been a king of the most
ancient Britons, but there is no such name in any
list of mythic British kings ; the form Hurlewayn,
of which Prof. Skeat gives two instances in Middle
English, may possibly be derived from Herlething.
I suppose if the name be British it would scarcely
do to connect the last syllable with the Anglo-
Saxon thinq to account for the maisnie.
E. S. A.
" ALPHABET-MAN" (8th S. xi. 207).— Twice this
same question has appeared in ' N. & Q.' (3rd S.
ii. 448 ; 4th S. v. 558) without eliciting any reply.
From the following quotation from the Gentleman's
Magazine of January, 1731, and the information
now furnished by your correspondent, the office
must have existed for fifty years at least : —
"Jan. 11, 1731. Mr. Will. Whorwood, Alphabet Keeper
to the Foreign post-office [died]."
" Mr. Alan Lavalade, appointed Alphabet Keeper to
the Foreign post-office."
EVERARD HOME COLEMAN.
71, Brecknock Road.
"In the time of George I the foreign office of
the G.P.O.], which was a separate department, included
a controller and an alphabet keeper, with eight assistant
clerks,"— -Lewin's ' Her Majesty's Mails,' p. 58.
EDWARD H. MARSHALL, M.A.
GASCOIQNE (8t!l S. xi. 208).— Sir William Gas-
coigne (Lord Chief Justice of England, 15 Nov.,
1400) married, in 1386-7, Elizabeth, daughter and
coheiress of Alexander Mowbray, of Kirklington, co.
York, by Elizabeth, his wife, daughter and heiress
of Henry Musters. His second wife was Joan, the
daughter of Sir William Pickering, Knt., and
widow of Sir Ralph Greystock, Baron of the Ex-
chequer, temp. Hen. VI. Her will dated 1 May,
1426, proved 12 June following; she was buried at
Spalding Moor. JOHN RADCLIFFE.
A. R. M. will find a long account of Sir William
Gascoigne, Chief Justice of the King's Bench,
under King Henry IV., in Foss's 'Biographical
Dictionary of the Judges of England,' in which it
it is stated : —
"He married, first, Elizabeth, daughter and heir of
Alexander Mowbray, of Kirklington, Esq. ; and, secondly,
272
NOTES AND QUERIES. [s«> axioms, -97.
Joan daughter of Sir William Pickering, and relict of
Mr Henry Greystock, Baron of the Exchequer."
R. C. BOSTOCK.
According to the 'Dictionary of National Bio-
graphy/ Sir William Gascoigne married, first,
Elizabeth, daughter of Alexander Mowbray, of
Kirklington, Yorks, by whom he had one son ;
secondly, Joan, daughter of Sir William Picker-
ing, and relict of Sir Ralph Greystock, Baron of
the Exchequer. D. H. W. COTES-PREEDY.
Ferdinand Pickering, life-student at the Royal
Academy and artist of divers frontispieces and
vignettes to some of the novels of half a century
ago, who came of an old Yorkshire family, told me
that the celebrated Judge Gascoigne, of Prince Hal
fame, married a Pickering. QUONDAM S.R.A.
PONTACK'S (8th S. vii. 67, 209, 315).— Although
able to deal pretty fully with this subject, I deem
it only necessary, in response to your querist, to
produce the following contemporary evidence as to
the situation of this establishment. Such evidence
will, however, supplement the information afforded
by the 'Diet. Nat. Biog.,' under "Pontack,"on
certain other points.
Narcissus Luttrell, in his 'Brief Relation of
State Affairs' (vol. iii. p. 513), under 17 August,
1695, refers to Pontack, "who keeps the great
eating-house in Abchurch Lane." And we learn
from Macky's 'Journey through England,' fourth
edition, 1724 (vol. i. p. 169), that
"near this [i. e. the Royal] Exchange are two very good
French Eating-Houses, the one at the Sign of Pon-
tack, a President of the Parliament of Bourdeaux, from
whose Name the best French Clarets are called so, and
Jjere you may bespeak a Dinner from four or five
Shillings a Head to a Guinea, or what Sum you please •
the other is Caveack's, where there is a constant
Ordinary, as Abroad, for all Comers without Distinction,
and at a very reasonable Price."
In " Mawson's Obits," at the College of Arms, we
find : 1729, 27th Octob* died at his House
(Pontack's in Abchurch Lane), Mr. Philip Austin
one of the Com'on Council for Candlewick Ward."
And the Gent. Mag. informs us, under 7 June,
1735, that 4Mr. Pepys, Banker in Lombard
Street, was married to Widow Austen at Pontacks
in Abchurch-lane."* This Mrs. Pepys must have
died (although I can find no record of the event)
before 8 June, 1738, when, as we glean from the
like source, the same Mr. Pepys was wedded to
the relict of Alex. Weller, Esq., with 30,OOOZ.
Evidently this "man of money" had an eye to
rich partners.
* Burn, in his 'London Traders, Tavern, and Coffee-
House Tokens' (Beaufoy Cabinet), 1855, quoting from
he Weekly Oracle, however, states that " on Thursdav
5 Jan 1736, Wm. Pepys, banker in Lombard St., was
married at St. Clement's Church in the btrand to M»
busannah Austin, who lately kept Pontack's, where with
uversal esteem she acquired a considerable fortune "
I may perhaps add that it is probable the house
was known as " Pontack's " from 1677, as the date
of its erection after the Great Fire of London, and
that its original proprietor was born in 1637, and
died in 1707. I find no mention, however, of the
"Pontack's Head,"nor, indeed, of any other licensed
property in Abchurch Lane, in a MS. list of
taverns in London and ten miles round, 1690-98,
in my possession. But it is not quite clear whether
the same was a tavern, properly so called ; and it
occurs to me whether Pontack was not carrying on
this eating-house rather as a " Free- Vintner ;; or
a " Free-Cook " — and as such able to supply wines,
&c., to his customers— than as a licensed victualler.
In any case the premises would at that period be
distinguished by some sign, W. I. R. V.
"SHOTT" (8th S. xi. 127).— If, in addition to
the references given by the Editor, MR. ERLE will
turn to 8"> S. i. 148, 214, 337, 419, 484, he will
not only gain a considerable amount of information,
but will find that his charge against CANON TAYLOR
has no foundation. It is merely a repetition of one
which was made on a previous occasion, and was
satisfactorily refuted. As regards the subject-
matter of MR. ERLE'S inquiry, I would venture to
observe that in the majority of instances the word
shot or shott appears to be connected with the A.-S.
sceat, sceatt, or sccett, a portion, part, division,
corner. Many people derive Aldershot, for in-
stance, from Alders-holt, or the wood of alders.
This must not be taken for granted. It may pre-
ferably mean the portion of land allotted to a
person of the name of Aldred. Cf. Aldersgate,
which was originally Aid redes- ge at. No satis-
factory explanation can be given of place-names
unless we know the form in which they originally
appeared. I think the termination -sete — which, as
MR. CAPES pointed out (8td S. i. 337), appears in
several Domesday names which are now repre-
sented by -shot — is more probably the equivalent of
sceat than of any derivative of settan. MR. CAPES
remarks that these names were variously spelt sheie,
shute, and schote, as well as sete.
W. F. PRIDEAUX.
Kingsland, Shrewsbury.
For the information of the correspondent at this
reference, and in the hope of saving the Editor
from the trouble of further correspondence on the
subject from those who write to * N. & Q.' without
consulting its indexes, I would mention that this
termination has been discussed not only in the Fifth
Series, but, at greater length, in vol. i. of the cur-
rent series. The discussion, in the course of which
some interesting remarks by the Rector of Bram-
shott were quoted, resulted in a general conclusion
that the termination was often, but not always, due
to holt. CANON TAYLOR, who is now again put on
his defence, admitting this, pointed out how assi-
milation seems to have worked to convert Alders
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holt and Oaks-holt on the one hand, and Brembre-
sete and Lidesete on the other, into Aldershot,
Oakshot, Bramshot, and Ludshot.
With regard to cases in which the termination
is to be referred to shot, a division, a question was
asked as to the places in which this term was in
use by itself. I can mention as existing on a small
manor in the north-west of Essex, Claypit Shot,
Fulbourne Shot, Outside Shot, Lower Eighteen
Acre Shot, Fifteen Acre Shot, Mile Bush Shot,
Gypson Hedge Shot, Tare Pen Shot.
KILLIGREW.
Mr. E. Beresford Chancellor, in his * History
and Antiquities of Kichmond, Kew, Petersham,
Ham/ &c., says : —
"In the reign of James I., a great part of Richmond
was common field land, divided into two fields, called
the Upper Field and the Lower Field ; and these again
were subdivided into parcels of irregular size called
Shotts. In the Upper Field were nine Shotts [names
given]. In the Lower Field were four Shotts [names
• T •• k
given]."
I can discover the survival of only one of these
names, to wit, Park Shott, or, as it is now spelt,
Parkshot. Of the derivation I know nothing, but
I think Mr. Chancellor supplies us with the
meaning. G. DAVIES.
Cockshott, one of the names mentioned, has
been dealt with at great length in ' N. & Q.' The
references will be found at 6td S. viii. 523 ; ix. 20.
W. 0. B.
I do not acknowledge the authorship of a book
entitled 'Names and Places/ which MR. ERLB
generously assigns to me. My present views are
set forth in the last volume of 'N. & Q.' as well as
in * Names and their Histories ' (1896), p. 381, to
the authorship of which I must plead guilty.
ISAAC TAYLOR.
^ PROVINCIAL PRONUNCIATION (8th S. xi. 85).—
Like E. S. A., I am not a philologist, but it has
often been in my mind to ask the question he now
asks. There can, I think, be no doubt that in
many cases local pronunciation is a guide both to
the derivation of words and to their " phonetic
worth in Middle English." The pronunciation of
e as a in certain words, e.g., in concern and stern
(which is common to many of our dialects), is a
case in point, as is shown by the sound still given
to the vowel in such place-names as Hertford and
Derby, in such surnames as Bertram, and in such
words as clerk. Many words, moreover, which are
now spelt with an e were formerly spelt with an a.
The Northern coo for cow is another instance, as is
shown by the pronunciation of such names as
owper and Crowle, and by the fact that such
rords as cooper and cucumber were formerly fre-
quently spelt cowper and cowcumber.
But pronunciation varies so much in different
places that it can hardly be a safe guide. Many
of the words named by E. S. A. are pronounced
in this neighbourhood precisely as in the West
Riding, but others of them quite differently. Lig
for lie (down) can hardly be irregular in the sense in
which E. S. A. appears to use the word. The
Middle English liggen is preserved in it. Lie (to
tell a falsehood), which in the West Riding becomes
lee, in South Notts and Leicestershire is lig (M.E.
lighen). In all these cases the old pronunciation
appears to be (more or less) locally preserved ; but
how about such localisms as shut for shoot, curk for
cork, Saturda for Saturday ? (N.B. The " Middle
English," like John Bunyan, I borrowed).
C. 0. B.
Epworth,
Lig is said to be the Yorkshire word for lie.
But I think that it must be Scotch also, from the
following passage, which introduces the word, and
exhibits the jocularity of James I. : —
" A certain lord coming in soon after, his Majesty
cried out : * Oh ! my lord, they say you lig with my
lady/ * No, sir,' says his lordship in confusion : ' but I
like her company because she has so much wit.' "—John-
son's ' Life of Waller.'
I will not quote more, for his Majesty is some-
what coarse. But he repeats the word lig. I see
that lig or liggen is Old English, recognized in
Johnson's 'Dictionary,' and has been used by
Spenser, also by Chaucer. Perhaps it was used
in England in the time of James I.
E. YARDLEY.
" HERE'S TO THE MAYOR OF WIGAN " (8th S.
xi. 187). — This query encourages me to ask for
information as to the source of another well-known
saying in Wigan and the district : " Bring another
mayor and another bottle." Legend has it that
a bygorie Mayor of Wigan attended some meeting
in London, accompanied by various other mayors
from provincial centres. After the usual banquet,
the mayors one by one succumbed and were carried
off to bed. The Mayor of Wigan, alone remaining,
cried out : " Bring another mayor and another
bottle." This story has long been current in West
Lancashire. J. H.
BLENCARD (8th S. vi. 89, 398, 473).— I think I
can throw light on my own question. The twelve
bottles costing three pounds in 1695 must have
been wine — presumably claret. There is in the
Department of Gers— so named from an affluent of
the Garonne — a commune called St. Blancart,
where wine is grown. Though it may not have
actually reached Hull, it seems probable that the
name may have become attached to a quality of
claret, or it may have been the name of the
exporter. Blancard is a French surname.
THOS. BLASHILL.
"RULE THE ROOST" (8th S. x. 295, 365, 423,
503). — In Stormonth's useful ' English Dictionary '
the favoured form would seem to be "rule the
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roast," which, however, is " probably only a corrup-
tion of ' to rule the roost,' in allusion to the cock
among his hens." But we have also noted an
alternative origin, viz., " to rule the rod." This, I
think, has not been mentioned before. The defini-
tion here is " an allusion to the emblem of authority
— that is 'to rule or wield the rod."' How will
this be approved by holders of preconceived notions
of the phrase ?
Yet another notion. In the Newcastle Weekly
Chronicle of 11 July, 1896, among a number of
derivations of words and phrases, comprised in an
article on ' The Study of Words,' the writer quotes
several terms from an old volume in his possession,
viz., ' Welsh and English Words and Meanings/
Included in the number is the following :—
" Roast : to rule the roast deriveth its signification
from the word being in time past roist, that is, a tumult
or unmannerly assembly of the people."
Here, indeed, we have something new (though
old) and strange. The Welsh title of the work
whence the writer of the article quotes is * Tchohn
nyggityor Hyrkuht, dy dhu sethaddte,' by
Hhworrysth ap Hollyss, and was revised by Evans
Pyttall, and was "Published by Wehrye Coddyn
at his shop opposite the Coffee House by the sign
of Yssthahdt Hhoty Nuffohrue, in Dock Street, in
the town of Cardiff." 0. P. HALE.
THE SUFFIX "WELL" IN PLACE-NAMES (8th
S. ix. 346, 461 ; x. 17, 99, 220 ; xi. 217).— So
various are the forms assumed by the same word
in compound place-names, and, on the other hand,
so many words become assimilated to the same
form, that it is impossible to pronounce a definite
opinion upon the origin of the suffix -well without
carefully examining the oldest written forms of the
name. But this much may be said with assur-
ance, that DR. BRUSHFIELD may be led very far
astray if he assumes that because Tidwell has some-
times been written Toudeville, &c., that the
original form was the French mile. My own name
is an illustration in point. One of its commonest
variants in early charters is Maccusville, a form
not unnaturally given to it by Norman scribes.
But the origin of the name is perfectly well known
to be Anglo-Saxon. Maccus, who died c. 1150,
obtained certain lands near Kelso. Adjacent to
the lower lands was a salmon pool, or " wiel "
(cf. A.-S. weallan, to boil, and Icelandic veil, a
boiling up), which soon became known as Maccus'
wiel, and still bears the name of Maxwheel, a
favourite salmon cast below Kelso Bridge. On the
lands higher up the river was Maccus' ttin or home-
stead, now Maxton. But the lower lands, being
probably the most valuable, took their name from
the salmon pool, and became Maccuswell ; the son
of Maccus was designated Herbert de Maccuswell
(11 50-1200),< and was appointed Sheriff of Teviot-
dale. The name appears in sundry forms — de
Mackiswell, de Makeswell, de Macheswell, de
Maccusville, &c.— until, c. 1284, it appears for
the first time in its modern form appended to a
document in the ' Registrum Monasterii de Passe-
let' (p. 66 in the published edition) as " dominus
Herbert de Maxwel."
It would be as unsafe to infer the etymology of
Gaelic place-names from the form given to them
by English clerks writing phonetically as to make
any deduction from the complexion given to Old
Northern English names by Norman writers.
HERBERT MAXWELL,
GENT (8th S. x. 93, 201, 343).— Byron also uses
this adjective in reference to ladies. See 'Don
Juan,' canto xvi. stanza 66 : —
Not nigh the gay saloon of ladies gent, &c.
Henri Stappers, in his * Dictionnaire Synoptique
d'Etymologie Frangaise' (second edition, Paris,
Larousse), has : —
"Gent, fern, gente (adj. de la vieille langue), poli,
gracieux, beau, comme il faut ; represents le L. genitus,
avec le sens de 'naissance'; homo genitus, c'est un
horn me comme il faut."
The word gente constantly occurs in ' Les Cent
Nouvelles Nouvelles'; e, g.t Nouvelle iii. opens :
"En la Duche de Bourgogne eut nagueres un gentil
Cheualier dont 1'histoire passe le nom qui marie" estoit
a une belle et gente Dame, et assez prez du Chasteau ou
ledit Cheualier faisoit residence, demouroit ung musnier
pareillement a une belle gente et jeune femme marie."
The rest is unedifying. Here gentil has the sense
of birth, but gente is applied promiscuously to the
lady and to the miller's wife. H. E. M.
St. Petersburg.
This slang word seems to have come in at first
as a mere written contraction. I have found the
word lay-gents in law reports of the seventeenth
century, particularly those of Popham and of Davis.
In Sir John Northcote's ' Note Book,' 2 December,
1640, Lord Gray is described as saying of one
Hallford or Holford, "That he is no gent. That
in memory of divers he kept hogs." The cognate
word gemman can be traced about a century earlier.
RICHARD H. THORNTON,
Portland, Oregon.
HANWELL CHURCH (8*h S. xi. 228).— I was a
boy at Mr. Minter Morgan's Hanwell Collegiate
School when our master, the Rev. J. A. Emerton,
curate of the parish under old Dr. Walmsley, the
rector, took the leading part in raising funds for
the new church. This was about 1840. The
architect was certainly Gilbert Scott, of Scott &
Moffatt — at least we were all told so — and the
church was so much admired that when the Turn-
ham Green folk put up a church on their green,
they asked for almost a copy of Hanwell Church,
which was thought the most beautiful new one in
the county. But as the Greeners had more money
than the Hanwellites, they built both sides of their
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church of flint and stone, whereas we poorer folk
had to use brick for the back side of Hanweli
Church, which cannot be seen from the road.
F. J. FURNIVALL.
This church was built from the design of the
late Sir G. Gilbert Scott, R.A., about 1839. His
own opinion of it in later years may be found
recorded in his ' Recollections ' (p. 86). In those
early days of the Gothic revival things were very
different from what they are to-day. Few, if any,
reliable books existed upon the subject of Gothic
ecclesiastical architecture, and ritual arrangements
were not thought of. Churches then were built
so as to comply with a tariff of so many shillings
a sitting. HARRY HEMS.
Fair Park, Exeter.
According to the account of the consecration of
this church given in the Gent. Mag. for July,
1842 (p. 80), " the new structure is of Anglo-
Roman architecture, after a design by Messrs.
Scott & Moffatt, Mr. Couchman, of Kensington,
being the builder." G. F. R. B.
CHALKING THE UNMARRIED (8th S. x. 113,
186, 405).— The compiler of « Norfolk ' probably
derived nis account of the custom, which prevailed
at Diss, from Dyer's ' British Popular Customs,'
1876, p. 370. F. C. BIRKBECK TERRY.
COURT MARTIAL (8th S. xi. 127).-— The * Annual
Register,' liv. 141, 144, records two such executions
in the year 1812. One memorable court martial
execution (it was called by another name by some
people) should not be forgotten, the conviction on
21 Oct., and hanging on 23 Oct., 1865, of George
William Gordon in Jamaica, the tribunal being
composed of one army man and two navy men,
whose decision was ratified by the higher authori-
ties. EDWARD H. MARSHALL, M.A.
THEODOSIDS THE GREAT (8th S. x. 272). — MR.
LYNN has incorrectly stated the facts. Zosimus
speaks of an eclipse of the sun causing darkness
like that of night on the first (not the second, as
stated by MR. LYNN) day of the battle ; and as
such an eclipse occurred on 20 Nov., A.D. 393, I
conclude that was the date of the battle. The
narrative of Claudian in regard to the second day's
battle fully confirms this view of the question ;
for it is very evident from his description that the
battle took place in the season of cold weather.
Phis view is also further confirmed by the fact that
the generals of Theodosius after the first battle
advised him to immediately retreat and postpone
farther active operations until spring. Such advice
strongly implies the near approach of winter, or,
at least, that the season for active campaigning
was over ; but it would have been the extreme of
childish folly if the battle had been fought before
the close of summer.
Theodosius the Great therefore died early in the
year A.D. 394, instead of 395 ; and this change of
date by one year brings the events of his reign and
also subsequent events into complete harmony
with the antecedent history of Greece and Rome
as determined by a long series of eclipses.
MR. LYNN also says that the same eclipse baa
been made to do duty on the occasion of a great
darkness at Constantinople at the time when
Honorius was made an associate in the empire.
But since the darkness occurred in the morning
and the eclipse occurred in the afternoon, it is
evident that there was no connexion between the
two events. JOHN N. STOCKWELL.
Cleveland, 0.
EARLS OF DERWENT WATER (8tb S. xi. 208). —
(1) Francis, first Earl of Derwentwater, married
Catherine, daughter of Sir William Fenwick, of
Meldon, Northumberland, and widow of Henry
Lawson, of Brough, Yorkshire.
(2) Their second son, according to Burke, died
unmarried.
(3) Edward, the second earl, married Mary
Tudor, an illegitimate daughter of Charles II. by
Mary Davies, the actress. She married, secondly,
in 1705, Henry Graham, of Levens, M.P. for West-
moreland ;Tand, thirdly, in 1707, James Rooke.
(4) The bodies of the first three earls were re-
interred at Thorndon, in Essex, in October, 1874.
G. F. R. B.
(1) Francis, the first earl, married Catherine,
daughter and heiress of Sir William Fenwick
(Burke's ' Extinct Peerage ').
(2) Edward, his second son, died unmarried
(Burke).
(3) The widow of Francis (not Edward), second
earl, remarried, first, Henry Graham, Esq., who
died 7 Jan., 1706 ; and, secondly, Rook, Esq.,
son and heir of Brigadier-General Rook (Ander-
son's * Royal Genealogies,' table dxvi.).
(4) The coffin of James, third earl, now reposes
at Thorndon, Essex, in the vault of Lord Petre
('N. & Q.,' 5" S. ii. 486).
0. F. S. WARREN, M.A.
Longford, Coventry.
ENGLISH HISTORICAL RHYMES (8tb S. xi. 187).
—The rhymes in question lead off ' The Chapter
of Kings, a Comic Song, in Doggerel Verse,' the
author of which was John Collins. It will be
found in that writer's ' Scripscrapologia,' and a
broadside version was printed in ' N. & Q.,' 3rd S.
v. 18. W. F. PRIDEAUX.
These historical rhymes were published in a
small book of thirty-seven full-page coloured illus-
trations, entitled 'Chapter of Kings/ by Mr.
Collins, with a coloured picture of the British lion
having the flags of England and a scroll, " Magna
•harta," in his paws (" London, published 1 Aug.,
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1818, by J. Harris, corner of St. Paul's Church-
yard "). The copy I have was presented to me
when a boy. I shall be happy to give THE
UNMISTAKABLE a copy of the verses if wished.
HUBERT SMITH.
Brooklynne, Leamington Spa.
B. E. FAULKNER (8th S. xi. 228).— Benjamin
Rawlinson Faulkner, portrait painter, died at North
End, Fulham, 29 October, 1849, aged sixty-three
(see Gentleman's Magazine). Redgrave gives his
age as sixty-two. In 1821 and 1822 Faulkner
lived at 4, Nassau Street, Middlesex Hospital,
afterwards for four years at 34, Hatton Garden.
He was organist at Edward Irving's chapel for
some time. From 1828 to 1834 he is found at 50,
Leicester Square, and then removed to 23, New-
man Street, from which residence all his exhibits
are dated till 1847, when he is represented as of
15, Haverstock Hill. His last portraits, Mrs. and
Miss Royds, were in the exhibition of 1848. I
have all the Royal Academy Catalogues before me.
Among persons of note painted by Faulkner were
Rev. J. Russell, D.D., Head Master of Charter-
house ; John MacCulloch, M.D., F.R.S. ; Capt.
(afterwards Sir) John Ross, the Arctic explorer;
Heber, Bishop of Calcutta ; and Sir Isaac Gold-
smid, Bart. See Bryan's ' Dictionary of Painters '
and ' Diet. Nat. Biog.' for fuller information.
ROBERT WALTERS.
Ware Priory.
Has MR. FERET overlooked the information
respecting Benjamin Rawlinson Faulkner and his
brother Joshua Wilson Faulkner which he will
find in 1N. & Q.,' 7" S. ix. 369, 516, together
with further references to 'A Dictionary of
Artists,' by Algernon Graves, Bryan's ' Dictionary
of Painters,' and Redgrave's ' Dictionary of Artists
of the English School ' ?
EVERARD HOME COLEMAN.
71, Brecknock Road.
B. R. Faulkner died at North End, Fulham, on
30 October, 1849 (Gentleman's Magazine, 1849,
pt. ii. p. 664). G. F. R. B.
AMELIA OPIE (8th S. xi. 181).— The note at
p. 181 proceeds on inaccurate information as to
the law. It is not the fact that, at the period
referred to (1832), "the bankruptcy law ordained
that it was necessary for every one of the creditors
to sign a certificate before the bankrupt could
obtain his discharge." The Bankruptcy Act then
in force was the 6 Geo. IV. c. 16 (1825), under
which a bankrupt could obtain his " certificate of
conformity," releasing him from his debts, on its
being signed by four-fifths in number and value
of the creditors who had proved debts to the
amount of 201. or upwards ; or, after three months,
by three-fifths in number and value, or nine-tenths
in number. The case of Oxenham is mentioned
in the note as being " a well-known Cornish case."
I am not in possession of any reference to it. From
what is stated, however, it may be inferred that
the debt had been contracted by means of fraud,
which, if proved, would invalidate any certificate.
R. R. DEES.
Wall send.
CORONATION OF JAMES I. AND VI. (8th S. xi.
225). — Lest the Scottish Review should be supposed
to have made an historical discovery, it may be as
well to mention that Miss Strickland, in her
'Queens of England/ has recorded the circum-
stances attending Queen Anne's coronation.
EDWARD H. MARSHALL, M.A.
Hastings.
SCOTTISH UNIVERSITY GRADUATES (7th S. vii.
388, 454, 493; viii. 35; ix. 435).— The gradua-
tion records of Marischai College and University,
Aberdeen (1593-1860), which are being printed
by the New Spalding Club, appear to have been
imperfectly kept before 1826. I should be glad
to hear of the existence of any Aberdeen diplomas
of earlier date. P. J. ANDERSON.
University Library, Aberdeen.
THE AGE OF YEW TREES (8th S. x. 431).— It
may perhaps interest your readers to know that
when examining the parish register of East
Betchworth, co. Surrey, some sixteen years since,
I met with the following entry therein among the
"burials":—
" The yew-tree in Beachworth Church yard was given
by the Honourable H. Hare, Esq', Justice of Peace, then
Living in this Parish, and planted at ye charges of Richard
Cook, Churchwarden, A° Dom' 1703. Soon after the
old yew-tree was blown down by the High wind, wch
happen'd Nov'ber ye 26th, 1703 [1=27 Nov., "the Great
Storm"]. The old yew-tree contained 6 loads of wood.
Mr. William Partridge, being then Vicar of thia P'ish,
sold it. — Hugh Hare, Esquire."
I am not quite sure whether the first-named tree
was in existence at the date of my said visitation,
but I remember making inquiry of the parish clerk
at the time, and I believe received a reply in the
affirmative, and that he shortly afterwards pointed
it out to me. The other and "old" yew tree
must have been of great age when it fell as above,
considering the quantity of wood it is stated to
have contained. W. I. R. V.
See ' A Venerable Yew Tree,' 8th S. ii. 84, at
which reference there is a cutting from News
of 8 July, 1892, which gives an account of a yew
tree — " the most venerable yew tree in the world "
— in the churchyard at Darley Dale. " Many
authorities," says the cutting, "claim for it a
fabulous age, making it as much as three thousand
years old. It is thirty-three feet in girth," &c.
CELER ET AUDAX.
LANDGUARD FORT, SUFFOLK (8th S. x. 515 ; xi.
35, 96, 236). — Mordaunt Cracherode was the
s. XI. APRIL 3, '97.]
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277
father of Clayton Mordaunt Cracherode, the cele-
brated book and print collector. Lord George
Beauclerk was the sixth son of Charles, first Duke
of St. Albans. Robert Armiger died on 18 March,
1770 (Gent. Mag., 1770, p. 144). For Sir John
Ciavering and Sir David Dundas see 'Diet, of
Nat. Biog.,' where the latter is said to have been
appointed to Landguard Fort in 1797. Harry
Trelawny was the brother of Sir William Trelawny,
sixth baronet. Cavendish Lister died at Coin
St. Andrews, near Fairford, on 2 Feb., 1823 (Gent.
Mag.t 1823, pt. i. p. 189). G. F. R. B.
<CAN OLD PARLIAMENTARY HAND" (8th S. xi.
227). — In the House of Commons on 21 Jan.,
1886, in opening, as leader of the Opposition, the
debate on the address in reply to the speech from
the throne, Mr. Gladstone said : —
" I stand here as a Member of a House where there are
many who have taken their seats for the first time upon
these benches, and where there may be some to whom,
possibly, I may avail myself of the privilege of old age
to offer a recommendation. I would tell them of my
own intention to keep my counsel, and reserve my own
freedom, until I see the moment and the occasion when
there may be a prospect of public benefit in endeavour-
ing to make a movement forward, and I will venture to
recommend them, as an old Parliamentary hand, to do
the same." — ' Hansard,' Third Series, vol. cccii. f. 112.
This was the first use of the phrase ; but it may
be compared with Roger North's description of
what happened when, in 1685, he was once acting
as chairman of Committee of the whole House of
Commons upon a money Bill : —
' There was much noise and importunity upon the
wording of the questions, which I always took as the
Court party worded, and then would be the noise of a
bear garden on the other side. But I carried it through,
and was well backed, and though I did not this with so
much art as an old Parliament stager would, yet it
pleased the managers for the Court, who loved to see
their measures advanced, right or wrong," — ' The Auto-
biography of the Hon. Roger North-g edited by Augustus
Jessopp, D.D.
ALFRED F. BOBBINS.
NOVELISTS' BLUNDERS IN MEDICINE (8tb S. x.
354).— At p. 185 of vol. iii. of ' Westminster Hall;
or, Professional Eelics and Anecdotes,' 1825, there
is a short chapter on "the law of the novels,"
which begins : —
1 Those of our legal readers who, like Curran, go to
bed with a romance in their hands, and, instead of the
novels of Justinian, study those of Sir Walter Scott,
must often have been shocked at the marvellous mis-
takes in points of law into which the heroes and heroines
of those works so frequently fall."
Whether the writer means that legal readers
will be shocked at marvellous mistakes in points
of law in Sir Walter Scott's novels is not clear ;
but if he does he has himself made a " marvellous
mistake." Scott's novels are full of Scots law, but
the law is as accurate as might be expected from
one who was Sheriff of Selkirkshire, and one of
the principal clerks of the Court of Session. In
particular the description of the progress of that
momentous suit Poor Peter Peebles v. Plainstane,
in ' Red gauntlet,' has been a joy to generations of
Scottish lawyers. WILLIAM GEORGE BLACK.
Glasgow.
CHAWORTH (8th S. xi. 128, 232).— The husband
of Margaret, Countess of Salisbury, was the " Sir
Richard Pole, 06. November, 1504," in whose
room Sir Rhys Fitz-Urian was elected a Knight of
the Garter. See Beltz's 'Order of the Garter.'
He was a distinct person and of a distinct family
from the Sir Richard de la Pole, titular Duke of
Suffolk, who (twenty-one years later) was slain at
Pavia in 1525. As SILO has mentioned my
1 Peerage ' (sub " Salisbury ") he may like to know
that in the same volume (sub "Suffolk") he will
find a somewhat full account of the last-named
Richard. G. E. C.
Some time ago I wrote to the publishers of Mr.
S. R. Gardiner's « Students' History of England '
pointing out the error in regard to the husband of
Lady Margaret Plantagenet in the pedigree on
p. 347, and in reply received a courteous note from
Mr. Gardiner, acknowledging the error, and stating,
if I remember rightly, that it had been corrected
in a subsequent edition. H. E. THOMPSON.
CHINESE FOLK-LORE (8th S. xi. 165, 235).-
MR. PLATT'S note is very interesting. Like
himself, I have long been acquainted with the
fact he mentions ; but details have been absent.
MR. PLATT has now, however, supplied the
deficiency. Curious to say, since reading his
note, I have chanced upon another item on the
same matter in the Daily Mail, 6 March. This
is from the pen of Mr. Louis Wain, who also fur-
nishes several illustrations showing the difference
in appearance of a cat's eyes at intervals during a
day. Readers who have been interested might
like to see Mr. Wain s article. It is on p. 7, col. 3,
of the issue named. C. P. HALE.
OBJECTS IN USE DURING THE NINETEENTH
CENTURY (8th S. xi. 127).— Among things "going
out of use " might be included, I think, pattens,
and perhaps dolly-tubs. Pattens were formerly
used over a larger area, by a higher class of people,
and on more frequent occasions than now. A
Lancashire vicar, who died in 1895, told me that
on his first coming into that county, in 1849, he
saw in the porch of a country church, " Please put
off your pattens." Goloshes and clogs have taken
their place.
The dolly-tub, with its interior four-footed re-
volving apparatus, seems to be less in evidence.
The warming-pan is having a brief seathetic revival.
Miss PEACOCK mentions rushlight-holders. Might
she not also include rushlights themselves and dip-
candles ?
278
NOTES AND QUERIES. B* a a. A«L s, w.
I have mentioned such things as flails, hop-poles,
large wooden rattles, smock-frocks, and shepherds'
crooks— 'N. & Q.,' 7"» S. ii. 266; xi. 422; 8th
S. ii. 264, 388 ; viii. 485— which are gradually
disappearing. The use of the rattle for scaring
beasts and birds must be very ancient. One such
is mentioned in 1490, in the Transactions Archit.
and Archseol. Soc. Durham and Northumb., iv. 296.
Within my recollection nearly every Yorkshire
farm-boy had a large wooden rattle, or clacker, of
his own making, which he used in his leisure time
for his own amusement and to the disturbance of
his neighbours. With these should be classed the
old watchman's rattle. I used to visit an old lady
who kept one in her bedroom, for use in case of
burglary (1855).
Doubtless those who are conversant with other
spheres of life could supply instances of other
things. W> a B
As suggestions are invited, I beg to name the
following. Pillions (on which I have seen farmers'
wives ride to market behind their husbands on
horseback), spinning-wheels, horn lanterns (in use
long before the stamped tin lanterns mentioned by
Miss PEACOCK), Italian irons and heaters (found
in every house when I was a boy), upright dash-
churns (alluded to in the old song I have heard
sung at " clippings ": —
Instead of a churn she used an old boot,
And instead of a churn-dash she ram'd in her foot
Oh dear, what a wife had 1 !),
salt-boxes, which used to be hung up in nearly
every farmhouse, in a recess near the chimney
Probably I am one of the last who have seen a
performance on the salt-box, and very clever and
laughable it was. 7Tis sixty years ago ":—
In straius more exalted the salt-box shall join
Ana clattering and battering and clapping combine :
WUh a rap and a tap while the hollow side sounds,
Up and down leaps the flap, and with rattling rebounds.
Milk-kits have quite disappeared from this part of
the country, and chop ping- blocks and knives
used for sausages and mince-pies, are now rarelv
seen, instead of which the little machines sold by
the ironmongers are used by every one. R. K
Boston, Lincolnshire.
« HARPIE " OR « HARPY " (8th S. xi. 47, 216).—
Ordinary books of reference would supply the in-
formation sought. But the inquirer may profit
by visiting the British Museum and studying the
harpies on the tomb from Xauthus. There they
are shown as conveying with tender care what
might be supposed to be the souls of children.
charges are said to be the daughters of
Pandarus. Penelope refers to this in her address
Artemis, ' Odyssey,' bk. xx. A striking illus-
tration of their degraded state is to be found
opposite p. 481 of vol. ii. of the edition of Virgil
published in six volumes 870. at Leyden and Am-
sterdam in 1680. They are shown as spoiling the
dinner of ^neas and his comrades in a disgusting
manner.
In armory the harpy takes an unattractive form,
as may be seen in Guillim, Clark, &c. Guillim
writes, 'The field is Or, an harpy displayed,
crowned and crined or." These are the arms of
the noble city of Nuremberg, which, according to
some authors, is situated in the very middle of
Germany. Upton says this animal should be given
to such persons as have committed manslaughter,
to the intent that, by often viewing their ensigns,
they might be moved to repent of their heinous
offence. The harpy probably originated in a whirl-
wind, a "devil." KlLLIGREW.
"HAND-FLOWERER»(8th S.xi. 207).— "Flowerer"
is a term used in the boot-making trade as well as
in the manufacture of earthenware, china, and
porcelain. Doubtless the term " hand-flowerer "
applies to the latter industry. A. E. B.
' THE CRIES OF LONDON' (8th S. xi. 183).— The
translation referred to by MR. MARSHALL is being
sold along the Quais at a few sous the copy. Verb.
sap- H. H. S.
Paris.
" HAMEL-TREE " (8th S. xi. 207).— This word
will be found in Wright's ' Provincial Dictionary/
where the explanation is : "The cross bars of a
plough to which the traces are hooked." There is
a slight distinction between this and the quotation
which DR. MURRAY gives. In the latter the
reference is to a " coach "; but in that given above
to a "plough." It is possible the author of
'Modern Husbandmen' was himself responsible
for the variant usage. " Which I call a Hamel-
tree," might easily convey such an impression ;
since it implies the possibility of other existing
names. C. P. HALE.
WART-CURING AS AN OCCULT SCIENCE (8th S.
xi. 165). — " Conceit can kill, and conceit can cure."
Undoubtedly strong suggestion, fortified by some
more or less mysterious rite, does sometimes cause
— or, at least, is followed by — the disappearance
of warts. The rite in one remarkable case that I
know of consisted of cutting off a wheat-straw at
the first knot above the ground, and burying it at
midnight without saying anything about it to any-
body. The warts were all gone within a fortnight.
0. C. B.
An old servant of our family was a most success-
ful wart-curer. Fortunately, I did not require
her ministrations personally, but I have known
many she cured. She would never reveal the
method she adopted. When I begged her to do so,
she told me she should never be able to cure any
one again if she did. All she could be prevailed upon
to tell me was that she obtained her charm from an
ga> 8. XI. APEIL 3, '97.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
279
old book belonging to her grandfather, which con-
tained many others, but that was the only one she
remembered. She never touched the warts nor
applied any remedy, and in many cases did not see
them. They were generally cured in a fortnight.
MATILDA POLLARD.
Belle Vue, Bengeo.
BRETON FoLK-Music (8th S. xi. 248).— Forty
popular dance-tunes, collected in the Morbihan,
were published by Mane* in the beginning of this
century, and they now are reprinted in the maga-
zine Melusine (vols. vi., vii., and viil), with a com-
mentary (from the musical point of view) by Miss
E. de Schoultz-Adaievsky. Under the heading
'Chansons Populaires de la Basse -Bretagne'
Melusine has published, passim) about fifty Breton
popular songs, with the original melodies. E. W.
may find also bibliographical information in the
lengthy review which I have written of Mr.
Quellien's book in the Bevue Critique for 29 April
and 6 May, 1889. H. GAIDOZ.
22, Rue Servandoni, Paris.
EGBERT PERRBAU (8th S. xi. 148, 232).— The
Robert Perreau to whom the adjective i;' unfortu-
! uate" would emphatically apply must be one of
the two brothers, Daniel and Robert Perreau, the
| bankrupt wine merchants, who were executed at
Tyburn for forgery on Wednesday, 17 Jan., 1776.
It was said at the time that when, nearly a year
and a half subsequently, the notorious Dr. Dodd
I was lying under sentence of death for a similar
| felony, King George III. met the popular petition
for the royal clemency with the objection, " If Dr.
Dodd's life should be spared then the brothers
Perreau were murdered."
NOVOCASTRENSIS may find particulars of this
I tragedy in almost every edition of the ordinary
I 'Newgate Calendar.' The more detailed account
1 of the then Ordinary of Newgate, the Rev. John
Villette,is bound up, inter alia, in a volume in the
British Museum Library, to which I furnish the
reference (6146. g. 1/1-14). NEMO.
NOTES ON BOOKS, &o.
The Compleat Angler. By Izaak Walton and Charles
Cotton. Edited, with an Introduction, by Richard Le
Gallienne. (Lane.)
IT is curiously characteristic of the two nations that
'The Compleat Angler' of Walton holds a position in
England analogous to that of the 'Manon Lescaut ' of
1'Abbe Prevost in France. Neither has a claim to
extreme popularity. In the case of the English work
both ' Robinson Crusoe ' and « The Pilgrim's Progress '
far outrun it ; in that of the French we will not attempt
to estimate its position in public favour. It ia to a
cultivated, and not a general public that the record of
the most faithless, if the most amiable of mistresses in
Prance and ' The Contemplative Man's Recreation ' in
specially appeal. Publishers have been un-
wearied in issuing the most luxurious and richly illus-
trated editions of each. Both books, indeed, are the joy
of amateurs and men of taste, and there are few, we
will not eay librHries, but collections of elegant books,
in which one edition de luxe of each may not be found.
From Mr. Le Gallienne's introduction to this latest edition
of Walton and Cotton's masterpiece we learn that a new
edition has been called for— or, at least, has appeared —
every two and a half years, a rate, Mr. Le Gallienne
thinks, likely to be exceeded in the future. Of these
editions many are still in great demand. The earliest,
it is known, bring fantastic and prohibitive prices. More
than one of the later editions, however, as a reference to
' Book Prices Current ' or to the catalogues with which
the book-lover is deluged will prove, are among the dearest
of modern books. This latest edition — issued with all the
luxury to which Mr. Lane has accustomed his patrons —
has its own distinct claims. It has an appreciative and
instructive, if at times quaint and not wholly persuasive
introduction by Mr. Le Gallienne, who, though not him-
self a fisherman, shows adequate appreciation of the
gentle craft, and besides collating known and precious
tributes to Walton adds his own stone to the cairn ; it
supplies a judiciously treated, and, in a sense, authori-
tative text; it has an excellent selection of helpful notes;
and it is profusely and admirably illustrated. An aim of
the artist — Mr. Edmund H. New — has been to illustrate
' The Compleat Angler ' from the topographical point of
view. In this he has succeeded beyond expectation,
establishing, in some respects, what is called a " record."
Little attempt is made to reproduce the spots depicted
as they must have appeared when Piscator stretched his
legs up Tottenham Hill for the purpose of overtaking
Venator and Auceps. It is the world of to-day that is
presented, and it is as one familiar with most of the scenes
presented that we testify to their fidelity and beauty.
The feeling in the illustrations is delightful, and the
execution is admirable. The praise may be extended
beyond the views of spots— such as Theobalds Park,
Hoddesdon, and Dovedale — to the designs of fish, which
are capitally executed and full, and even to the decora-
tive initials and headings, the pictures of flowers — colts-
foot, meadow-sweet, and the like. The edition is, in fact,
attractive in the highest degree, and is bound to become
popular and, what is no small recommendation to the
book-buyer, scarce. Without being false to early loves,
we accord this beautiful volume an honoured place on
shelves which it will not quit so long as we possess the
power to conserve and the appetite to enjoy.
Naval and Military Trophies. Parts V. and VI.
(Nimmo.
WITH one exception from the royal collection are the
trophies reproduced by Mr. William Gibb in the fifth
and sixth parts of Mr. Nimmo's sumptuous work. They
are principally, but not exclusively, Oriental. Those in
Part V. include a beautifully decorated belt and car-
touche boxes captured in the Mahratta warn, and pre-
sented by the Marquess of Wellesley in 1812 to the
Prince Regent; a magnificent jewelled bird, from the
throne of Tippoo Sultan, presented by the same to
George III. ; the George worn by the Dukes of Marl-
borough and Wellington, now in the possession of the
Duke of Wellington; and an Egyptian standard of
Sinkat, captured with the camp of Daman Digma. In
Part VI. are Tippoo Sultan's gun, from Seringapatam;
bis helmet and standard ; the flag curried by the second
column at the storming of Delhi ; and the swords of
Joseph Bonaparte and Marshal Jourdan, captured at
Vittoria. These various objects of the strongest historical
and patriotic interest are reproduced by Mr. Gibb in
magnificent style. The descriptive notes are, ae hereto-
280
NOTES AND QUERIES.
XI. Ap»n,S,'97.
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fore bv Mr. Richard R. Holmes, her Majesty's librarian
and'supply all requisite information. We have noticed
each succeeding part of this fine work, one of the most
interesting, archseologically and historically, as well
one of the most splendid of the day. Six out of nine
parts have now seen the light, and the work, which is
dedicated to the Queen, will before long be entirely m
the hands of a public that can hope for few more spirit-
stirring publications.
Venerabilis Baedae Historian, Ecdesiasticam Gentis
Anqlorum, Historian Aobalum, &c. Instruxit Carolus
Plummer, A.M. 2 vols. (Oxford, Clarendon Press.)
IT has been said that the Venerable Bede and Sir
Thomas More are the two most lovable characters which
we encounter in English history. So much depends on
individual taste that it would be rash to conclude that
this is more than a personal feeling. We believe, how-
ever that there are very few persons who are acquainted
with the life of Bede who have not been attracted by its
charm Bede was something far more than an historian,
if we understand by that word what it commonly means
in our own day. He was also a theologian, and seems to
have mastered nearly all the attainable knowledge of his
own day. Had he not, however, written his 'Eccle-
siastical History of the English People ' his name would
have been unknown except to a few theologians and
antiquaries.
Few of us realize how very much of what we know of
the history of our forefathers is due to Bede. It is true
we have, besides, the ' Anglo-Saxon Chronicle,' which is
in manv parts an independent authority. Two or three
other small works exist also; but if all Bede has told us
were blotted out we should have but a faint outline oi
our early life. Bede understood human character. His
book is not a mere series of annals, but a true history,
giving us word pictures of men and women as he knew
them or as they had been described to him by what he
regarded as competent authority, and he knew how to
weigh evidence in a manner which surprises the modern
reader who is too apt to think that the faculty for
weighing facts is a discovery of these recent centuries.
The ' Ecclesiastical History ' of Bede has been a
popular book from his own day to the present. There
are very few works of which so many manuscripts exist,
and it issued from the press in the early days of printing.
What is believed to be the first edition appeared at
Strasburg about 1475. It was not, however, until 1722 that
a critical edition, founded on a collation of manuscripts,
appeared. This laborious work was undertaken by John
Smith, a canon of Durham. He, however, died in 1715,
when 'he had seen less than a quarter of the book
through the press. In those days it was not easy to find
any one who would devote himself to completing a work
of this kind. Fortunately John Smith had a brother
George, like-minded with himself. To him we owe it
that the work was not left unfinished, or, what would
have been worse, handed over to a bookseller's hack.
From the date of the issue of this book it has been
regarded as the standard edition by scholars, foreign and
domestic. We believe that all the translations which
have appeared in Europe since 1722 have been made
from Smith's edition. It has long been felt that a new
edition, based on a wide examination of manuscripts,
was needed. There are, however, but few scholars who
have the zeal and enthusiasm which fit them for
grappling with such a work. Happily Mr. Plummer
volunteered to undertake this labour of love. His edition
is based on the four oldest manuscripts which are known
to exist; but very many others have been consulted.
After careful examination, we are justified in saying
that we believe the reader has in this edition Bede's
great work substantially as it left the Jarrow scrip-
torium. The editor has added a very large body of
illustrative notes, many of which show wide research in
a literature which is, unhappily, almost unknown in this
country. Here and there he raises questions on which
we might join issue with him; but when so much good
work bus been done it would be little less than shameful
to quibble about what, after all, are, in the opinion of
most persons, mere trifles.
The English Catalogue of Books for 1896, (Sampson
Low & Co.)
THIS invaluable compilation having reached its sixtieth
year of publication, is allowed, like royalty, to celebrate
what may be called its diamond wedding. Another
sixty years will probably elapse before its utility is im-
paired or it sees a dangerous rival.
WITH unfeigned and acute regret we learn of the death
of the Rev. William Sparrow Simpson, D.D., F.S.A., one
of the most valued of our friends and most constant of
our contributors. A man of profound erudition and
varied accomplishments, he was an ideal librarian, as is
witnessed by the order out of chaos which he extracted
from the library of St. Paul's, to which he was appointed
in 1881. Educated in Queen's College, Cambridge, of
which he was scholar and librarian, he graduated in
1851, proceeded M.A. in 1854, and M.A. ad eundum at
Oxford the following year. The Lambeth degree of D.D.
was conferred on him in 1873. He was honorary librarian
to the Archbishop of Canterbury in 1870, and succentor
of St. Paul's from 1876 to 1885, junior cardinal from
1878 to 1881, when he became sub-Dean. From 1857 he
was rector of St. Vedast, Foster Lane. His ' Gleanings
from Old St. Paul's' and his other works, relating princi-
pally to the history of St. Paul's and St. Vedast, are
familiar to all antiquaries. Up to the end he was in
constant touch with ' N. & Q.,' as a reference to the
latest volume will show. His name appears in the first
volume.
UNDER the happily chosen title of the Thoroton Society,
an antiquarian society for Nottingham and Nottingham-
shire is on the point of being established. A considerable
number of members are already obtained. The provisional
honorary secretaries are Lord Hawkesbury, F.S.A., o)
Cockglode, Ollerton, Notts, and Mr. W. P. Phillimore
M.A., of 124, Chancery Lane.
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CONTENTS.— N°276.
NOTES —Ambiguous Prophecy, 281-Keutish Town, 282-
Henrv Rogers — Prendergast-Williams — Lancashire Cus-
toms, 285-Horace Walpole-Canon Driver on Usury, 286
—Dr. Nansen, 287.
QUERIES :-" Hake " — " Busket " - Names of Drugs -
•Journal of Dean Rowland Davies '— Firebrace Family
Bible— Col. F. F. Staunton— Carrick— " Ace of Hearts"
Game-E. Waller, 287 - Folk-lore of Lips-78th High-
landers— «• Manus Christ! "—Sir M. Featherstonhaugh—
Colchester M.P.s-Baron Perryn-" Rental" of College of
Wye— First Twenty British Steamers, 288— Author Wanted
— " John Trot "—George Lipscomb, 289.
REPLIES :— Book of Common Prayer in Latin, 289— Sharp's
4 Bishoprick Garland,' 290— Steel Pens— George Morland,
Senior— Source of Quotation— George Baxter— " Rigma-
role "—Wooden Pitchers— Olney— Hilaire, Countess Nelson
—Four Common Misquotations, 292—" Lanthorn "—Letter
of Lord Byron— "Cabal"— Jessamy, 293— Gretna Green
Marriages— " Eye-rhymes " — " Playing the wag," 294—
James Graham, Lord Easdale — " Brang "— Shelta, 295-
Gilman — Eagles Captured at Waterloo — Red, White,
Blue, 296— Longest English Words— Scott's ' Old Mortality'
—Pur-blind—John Andre— Early Steam Navigation, 297—
E Button, Earl Dudley— Ghost-Names— Early Copying
Machine — Cagots — " Handicap," 298 — Death of Miss
Bathurst, 299.
NOTES ON BOOKS :— Houston's ' Critical Study of Nulli-
fication'— Woolward's 'First Steps in a Pedigree' —
• Journal of Ex-Libris Society '—Magazines.
Notices to Correspondents.
AMBIGUOUS PROPHECY,
Equivocal response to the consulters of Seer or
Sibyl, magic-head or devil, would seem to have
been a popular theme for reflection in the later
Middle Ages, and would appear to have gratified,
by its childish ingenuity, the wonder of those who
derive mental exhilaration from dwelling un-
necessarily upon the vanity of human wishes or
the frustration of human achievement. Doubtless
the facetiousness of the thing seems stale and
unprofitable to us, even as has become the anagram
epidemic of a few generations ago ; but there is
evidence that it seemed far less so to our solemn
mediaeval ancestors.
The story of Henry IV. dying in the Jerusalem
Chamber at Westminster is a well-known example
in English history. It may be less well known,
however, that this is but a variant of at least
two earlier stories, connected with the deaths
respectively of a Pope and a Norman commander.
It is related by Villani* that Robert Guiscard,
after his conquests and desolations in Rome and
Apulia, had a vision signifying that he should
die in Jerusalem, whither he was bound on a
pilgrimage. Coming to Greece he was taken very
ill ; but in virtue of his belief in the vision he
nowise expected his end. Opposite the harbour
* Lib.iv. cap. six., "Istor. Fior."
wherein his vessel cast anchor lay an island
where the conditions were considered more salu-
brious. Thither he was borne. As he worsened
daily, he happened to ask the sailors about him
how the island was called. They told him that
from of old it was named Jerusalem. Upon learn*
ing this he knew that his hour was come, and,
arranging his affairs, he quitted this life in the
grace of God A.D. 1090.*
Of Sylvester II. (Gerbertus), at the commence-
ment of the same century, the various chroniclers
loved to record that he posssessed or made for him-
self a magic head, which at critical moments he
was wont to consult For instance, says William
of Malmesbury, when Gerbert would say, " Shall I
become pontiff 1 " the statue would reply, " Yes."
"Am I to die ere I sing mass at Jerusalem?'1
" No." They relate that he was so much deceived
by this ambiguity (?) that he thought nothing of
repentance, for when would he think of going to
Jerusalem to accelerate his own death ? Nor,
indeed, did he foresee that at Rome there is a
church called Jerusalem, that is, " the Vision of
Peace," because whoever flees thither finds sanc-
tuary, of whatsoever crime he may be guilty.
We have heard that this was called an asylum
in the very infancy of the city, because Romulus,
to increase the number of his subjects, had
appointed it to be a refuge for the guilty of every
description. Now the pontiff sings mass there
upon three Sundays, which are called " the Station
at Jerusalem. n Wherefore upon one of those days
Gerbert, preparing himself for mass, was suddenly
stricken with sickness. This so increased that he
took to his bed. On consulting his statue he
became convinced of his delusion, and consequent
approaching demise. Galling his cardinals together,
he bewailed his crimes of long standing. These,
being awestruck, were unable to reply. Whereupon
he began to rave, and, losing his reason through
excess of pain, ordered himself to be mutilated and
cast forth piecemeal, saying, "Let him have service
of my limbs who sought their homage hitherto :
for my mind never gave consent to the infamous
oath" ("namque animus meus nunquam illtid
adamavit sacramentum, immo sacrilegium ").
Another and earlier chronicler says: "He
ordered himself to be cut in pieces, so that by
punishment in this world he might escape eternal
Bufferings."
In the thirteenth century, according to Fr. Pipini
(*L. Muratori,' S.R.I., ix. 660 B), Michael Scot
foretold that his august master, Frederick II.,
should die near "the Iron Gates in a town named
after Flora," by which was signified the gate near
Sto. Stefano at Florence. My friend, Mr. Wood
Brown, in his valuable work just issued, * The Life
and Legend of Michael Scot,'f writes (p. 167) :
* More usually 1085.
f D. Douglas, Edinburgh.
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Frederick, accordingly, avoided coming to that city.
During his last campaign, in 1250, however, he
fell sick at the town of Fiorentino or Firenzuola,*
in Apulia, and lay in a chamber of the castle. His
bed stood against a wall recently built to fill up
the ancient gateway of the tower, while within the
wall there still remained the iron staples on which
the gate had been hung. Uneasy at the progress
of his malady, and hearing something of these par-
ticulars, the emperor fell into deep thought, and
presently exclaimed, " This is the place where I shall
make an end as it was told me. The will of God
be done : for here I shall die/' and soon afterwards
he breathed his last.
The other prediction which the chronicler attri-
butes to Scot relates to the occasion of his own
death. This he said would take place by the blow
of a stone falling on his head. Being in church
one day, with head uncovered at the sacring of the
mass, a stone, agreeing in all particulars with the
prediction, was shaken from the tower and wounded
Scot even to death.
Villani (lib. vi. c. Ixxii.) also tells us of a
similar prophecy relating to the end of the infamous
Ezzelino da Eomano (1260). According to astro-
logical forecast he had learned he should die in
a castle not far from Padua, called Basciano. He
therefore avoided the place. When, however,
being wounded and taken prisoner, he was carried
to a certain stronghold, he asked the name of the
place. The response was, " Casciano," whereupon
he murmured, " Casciano and Basciano are one and
the same place," and he considered himself doomed.
The case of Cecco d'Ascoli and his burning at
Florence affords a further instance, and I have
lately come upon another, belonging to the same
period, in the ' Diurnali del Duca di Monteleoni '
(p. 5) : When King Robert (the Wise) would
embark in 1333 on an expedition for the recovery
of Sicily it is related that he consulted " one having
a familiar spirit " as to whether he should succeed
in retaking Sicilia. Now, in one of the first skir-
mishes a poor woman was captured and brought
before him. On hearing that her name was Sicilia
the king suddenly struck his camp. Whatever
value (certainly a very small one) may attach to
this story, Robert's numerous and costly expeditions
for the same purpose proved just as vain, albeit he
was himself a master in astrology.
Although dignified, as, indeed, has been so
much other mysterious frivolity, with the majestic
name of prophecy, this was merely a species of
vague quibbling, well adapted to tickle the super-
stitious and arouse credulous speculation. It is,
perhaps?, represented nowadays by such rubbish as
' Moore's Almanac.' Inquiry into the genesis and
development of such predictions, it is to be feared,
* Should not this be Castro Fiorentino, and not a
town?
would result in conclusions not tending to increase
confidence in the usual conditions of the thing
called prophecy or in the veracity of the prophet.
At any rate, there is no reason to think that less
clipping and fitting, or less of post-mortem manu-
facture of evidence, has been resorted to in these
cases than in others far older and far more famous.
In the Middle Ages it was a pursuit characteristic
enough of a period which had craftily, however
ignorantly, wrested an artistic poetical prediction
of the singer of Eneas regarding Augustus and
Rome, and perverted it into a solemn pagan
prophecy of the birth of Jesus of Nazareth.*
ST. CLAIR BADDELET.
KENTISH TOWN AND THE KING'S PRINTER.
Amongst the names of more or less distinction
that have failed to find admission to the ' Diction-
ary of National Biography ' is that of John Bill,
Printer to their Majesties King James I. and
King Charles I. Bill was a man of some mark in
his day. From a comparatively humble position
he was enabled, by his industry and ability, to
attain the highest rank in his calling, and to take
a place amongst the gentry of Middlesex, while
his son and successor not only made his mark in
the political world, but became allied with one of
the most distinguished families among the aris-
tocracy of England. John, according to a pedigree
with which I have been favoured by my friend
and neighbour Mr. William Phillips, F.L.S., was
baptized in the year 1576. He was the son of
Walter Bill, of Spittle Street, Much Wenlock, co.
Salop, and was one of a large family of brothers
and sisters. The place of his education is not
known, but although his name does not appear in
the school registers, it may possibly have been
Shrewsbury, as Thomas Chaloner, Head Master
of the Free Grammar School, in a list of donors to
the school library which was compiled by him in
1619 and is preserved among the Corporation
Records, noted that " Mr John Bill Cittizen and
Stationer of London gave three books beinge in six
severall volumes in folio, but all in queers un-
bound, price fortie shillings." These books may
have been presented by Bill in recognition of the
educational benefits he derived from the school.
At fifteen years of age he came to London, and his
name appears in the Registers of the Stationers'
Company as under : —
"John Bill sonne of Walter Bill late of Wenlock in
the countie of Salop, husbandman deceased, hath put
himself apprentice to John Norton citizen and Stacioner
of London for the terme of eight yeres from the feast of
Sainct James the Apostle last paste [25 July, 1592]
iit. vie?."— Arbor's ' Stationers' Registers,' ii. 182.
On 19 Jan., 1601, he was "sworne and admitted
* Cf. Thorn. Aquinas, ' De Regimine Princip.,' i. 14;
I Dante, ' Inferno/ ii, 19,
s. xi. APRIL io, w.] NOTES AND QUERIES.
283
a freman of this Companie" on payment of
"iijs. iiijd." (i&., ii. 727), and his career of pro-
sperity appears then to have begun. The date of
his first registered publication was 6 May, 1604
(ib.t iii. 260), and some years afterwards, in con-
junction with Bonham Norton, he purchased the
office of King's Printer from the Barker family.
On this transaction he afterwards complained that
he had expended many thousand pounds (' Cal.
State Papers/ Dom. Series, 1619-23, p. 55). The
partners were confirmed in the office of printing
Bibles, Books of Common Prayer, Statutes, and
Proclamations, 11 July, 1627 (ib., 1627-8, p. 235).
After Bill's death some notes were written, which
are still preserved in the State Paper Office, on
"the propriety of maintaining the office of King'8
Printer and the particular service rendered therein by
John Bill, especially in the printing of various works
for the advancement of religion, and the honour of the
nation : e.g., the Works of King James, Bradwardine de
Causa Dei, works of Dr. Downame and Robert Abbot,
the Bishop of Spalatro's Works, History of the Council
of Trent, books of a Secular Priest under the name of
Widdringfon, and the Bible and Service Books in Welsh."
-76., 1629-31, p. 272.
In the year 1613 Bill was made Renter Warden of
the Stationers' Company, and he filled the office
of Warden in 1623 and 1629.
John Bill died on 3 May, 1630, and was buried
at St. Anne's, Blackfriars, a church which was
destroyed in the Great Fire of London, and not
rebuilt. His monumental inscription is printed
purchased in conjunction with Bonham Norton,
two chambers held by lease from Cuthbert Bur-
bage, and an annuity of 3002. He left three sons,
John, Charles, and Henry, and a daughter Anna
(' Cal. State Papers/ Dom. Series, 1629-31, p. 242).
John Bill was the owner of extensive property
in Kentish Town. Some of that property he ap-
pears to have disposed of during his lifetime, as,
according to the ' Dictionary of National Bio-
graphy,' xxv. 312, Sir John Hayward left his
granddaughter, Mary Bowe, lands and houses in
Kentish Town which he had obtained from the
printer John Bill. The property of Cane Wood,
or, as it is now called, Caen Wood, was in his
possession at the time of his death, and is men-
tioned in his will. The history of this property,
notwithstanding its proximity to London, is in-
volved in great obscurity, and Lysons (' Environs
of London/ ed. 1811, ii. 617) is compelled to admit
his inability to procure much information regarding
it. No succeeding writer, so far as I know, has
added anything to Lysons's account, and some of
the following details have not been recorded in
any history of St. Pancras. Kentish Town, alias
Canteloes, was from a very early period a prebendal
manor of St. Paul's ; but, apart from the corps of this
prebend, the land was held by other proprietors.
The earliest of whom I find a record was William
Blemund, the lord of the manor of Blemundesbyri,
or Bloomsbury, who was one of the largest owners
in Strype's 'Stow/ lib. iii. p. 181. His printing-
office seems originally to have been situated in St.
Paul's Churchyard ('Cal. State Papers/ Dom.
Series, 1611-18, p. 454), and was afterwards re-
moved to Blackfriars, on the site of the present
Printing House Square. Bill was twice married.
His first wife was Anne, daughter of Thomas
Mountford, D.D., vicar of St. MartinVin-the-
Fields, and one of Dr. Donne's executors. This
lady was famous for her skill in music, and her
piety is commemorated in two rare little volumes,
* A Mirror of Modestie ' and * Peplum Modestise,
the Vaile of Modestie ' ('N. & Q.,' 3rd S. x. 475 ;
4«b S. iii. 606). She died on 3 May, 1621, aged
thirty-three, and was buried in St. Faith's, under
St. Paul's. Bill's second wife was Jane, daughter
of Henry Franklin, by Cecily his wife, who sur-
vived him. In his will, which is dated 24 April,
1630, after giving directions regarding his burial,
and leaving 3002. for the expenses of his funeral,
he gives 152. to the parish of Much Wenlock,
where he was born, and other legacies to Bride-
well, the Children of Christ's Hospital, and the
Stationers' Company, with 102. for dinners to the
first and last of these institutions. He also leaves
certain legacies to his brother William Bill, with
his wife and family, his nephew Francis (his brother
lichard's son), and to many other relatives and
friends. He leaves his wife Jane Bill his house,
of land in the suburbs of London. In a charter,
dated at Westminster, 8 Feb., 11 Henry III. (1226),
confirming various grants to the Priory of the
Holy Trinity without Aldgate, the following bene-
faction is mentioned : —
"De dono Willielmi Blemund totum boscum cum
Bruera et cum omnibus pertinenciis sicut undique fos-
satis includitur in parochia Sancti Pancracii de Kentisse-
tone, juxta parcum Domini London. Episcopi versus
Austrum et Willielmum Uggel et haeredes suos et eorura
servicia." — Dugdale's ' Mouast. Anglicanum/ ed. 1682,
ii. 82.
I do not know whether these lands remained in
the possession of the monks of Holy Trinity until
the Dissolution, as Lysons says that the monks of
Waltham had an estate in the parish of Pancras,
called Cane Lond, with woods, &c., valued at 132.
per annum, 36 Hen. VIII. (' Rental of Monasteries/
Harl. MSS., No. 701), and there may have been a
transfer or exchange between the two houses ; nor
is it recorded to whom the land was made over by
the king when the property of the monastery was
distributed ; but in the recently published report
on the MSS. of J. Eliot Hodgkin, Esq., F.S.A.,
I note that in a long list of presentments, dated
28 March 1556, one of the misdemeanants is John
Slannyng, of Hampsteed, gentleman, for cutting
down twenty acres of wood in a wood " caulled
Cayne Wood" two years since, and for "nowe
suffering horses and mares and other cattell as doth
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appere to destroys the springes of the same wood,"*
whence it may be inferred that Slannyng had some
rights of property in the wood. The next owner
of whom I find any account is John Bill, who died
seised of ita possession. He seems to have been
succeeded in the ownership of Cane Wood, as well
as in his share of the office of King's Printer, by
his son John, who would perhaps have done better
if he had stuck to his trade, and not mixed himself
up in the troublous politics of the time. He held
the rank of major in the king's army, and for
taking too prominent a part in raising arms against
the Parliament his estate was sequestrated, 16 Oct.,
1648, and after having been for some time im-
prisoned in Peter House, Aldersgate Street, he
was, by order of Committee of both Houses, 13 Nov.,
1648, removed to the Counter in South wark (* Gal.
State Papers,' Dom. Series, 1648-9, pp. 121, 122,
305). After the Restoration, Bill had a dispute,
relative to the office of King's Printer, with
Christopher Barker, great - grandson of Robert
Barker, to whom it had been granted by Queen
Elizabeth. Before that period, however, he must
have made his peace with the Republican Govern-
ment, as in 1656 he was one of the feoffees of the
revenue belonging to the parish church of St. Pan-
eras (Wiswould's * Charitable Foundations of St.
Pancras,' 1863, p. 62). His name was included in
the list of gentry of the county of Middlesex given
in Blome's ' Britannia,1 1673. He died in 1680,
and was buried on 4 Oct. at Hampstead. His wife
was the Lady Diana Fane, daughter of Mildmay,
second Earl of Westmorland, and widow of John
Pelham, of Brokelsby, co. Lincoln, Esq. An only
daughter, Diana, who was born about 1663, and
was celebrated by Howell in his * Poems on Several
Choice and Various Subjects,' died the widow of
Capt. Francis D'Arcy Savage, 23 May, 1726, and
lies buried against the north wall of Barnes Church-
yard, Surrey (Park's * Topography of Hampstead,'
ed. 1818, pp. 305-6). Besides this daughter,
Major Bill had a son, Charles, who also succeeded
to the King's Printership, and though not, like his
father, honoured with the production of a memor-
able publication like the London Gazette, was a
copious putter-forth of King's Speeches and other
State Papers. "Charles Bill, of Sc Pancras,
Middx., Bachr, about 19, with consent of his
mother Dyana Bill, Widow," is entered, under
date 25 April, 1681, in the Marriage Allegations
of the Vicar-General of the Archbishop of Canter-
bury, his intended bride being "Mri Elizabeth
Hanson, of St. Andrew, Holborn, London, Spr,
ab* 22" (Harleian Society's Publications, 1890,
p. 60). I am not sure when the estate of Cane
Wood passed out of his hands, nor have I any
further particulars of his family. Early in the
* 'Historical MSS. Commission,'
Appendix, pt, ii, p. 260.
Fifteenth Report,
eighteenth century the property belonged to
William, fourth Lord Berkeley of Stratton, who,
writing to the Earl of Strafford on 29 July, 1712,
says : " You cannot imagine how I enjoy myself
at Cane Wood, after this hurry, and how quiet and
pleasant it is " (' Wentworth Papers, p. 293). Not-
withstanding the amenities of the place, Lord
Berkeley was not unwilling to dispose of it, for
writing to the same correspondent on 12 Aug.,
1712, he says : —
" Your Lordship will wonder to hear I have sold Cane
Wood. A Lord Blantire of Scotland offer'd me 4,000
pounds for it, which I thought worth hearkening to,
considering the little time I stay out of town, and that
a place of half that sum might serve me. I wish I may
get a house in your neighbourhood of Twitnam, for ]
was always fond of that part of the country. I am still
at Cane Wood, but would be glad to remove since it is
none of my own. It seems 'tis the D. of Argyle hath
bought it under another name, and I am desir'd to
stay till the goods are valued, part of which he desires to
buy."— 'Wentworth Papers,' p. 298.
Lysons quotes Macky's ' Tour through England/
about the year 1720, in which the writer says : " Tha
Duke of Argyle had a fine seat at the Caen Wood,
which now belongs to one Dale, an upholsterer, who
bought it out of the bubbles," meaning, as Lysons
supposes, with the money which he had made by
speculation during that adventurous period. It
subsequently became the property of the Earl of
Bute, and is more than once mentioned in the
letters of Lady Mary Wortley Montagu to her
daughter, Lady Bute. Under date 20 Aug., 1749,
she writes to Lady Oxford that "my daughter
writes me word she has fitted up that house near
Hampstead, which I once had the honour to see
with your ladyship," and congratulates her daughter
ten days afterwards, saying, " I very well remem-
ber Caen Wood House, and cannot wish you in a
more agreeable place." She does not question
Lord Bute's good taste in the improvements round
it, or her daughter's in the choice of the furniture.
In 1755, however, Lord Bute sold it to the Hon.
Sir William Murray, Attorney- General, and after-
wards Lord Chief Justice of England and Earl of
Mansfield. The Chief Justice, if he did not com-
pletely pull down the old house, caused it to be
practically rebuilt under the direction of Robert
Adam, the great architect. In 1780, as we learn
from Horace Walpole, Caen Wood House narrowly
escaped the fate of Lord Mansfield's town house
in Bloomsbury Square. Five thousand rioters
marched out to burn the house, but were fortu-
nately checked by a regiment which was sent in
pursuit (Walpole'a ' Correspondence,' ed. Cunning-
ham, vii. 385, 386). This great historic property,
associated with the names of the first printers of
the Authorized Version and of the London Gazette,
of John of Argyle and Greenwich, field-marshal,
statesman, and protector of Jeanie Deans, of Lady
Mary and her much misrepresented son-in-law, and
of the greatest Chief Justice who ever adorned the
8"-s.xi.AK>n,io,w.] NOTES AND QUERIES.
285
bench, is still in the possession of Lord Mansfield's
venerable great-great-nephew, the present earl.
Long may the park, with its noble cedars and
ancestral beeches, be spared from the more ques-
tionable dignity of becoming an " eligible site."
W. F. PRIDEAUX.
Kingsland, Shrewsbury.
HENRY ROGERS: 'DICTIONARY OF NATIONAL
BIOGRAPHY.' — Will you allow me to correct
several errors in the life of " Henry Kogers, Edin~
burgh reviewer and Christian apologist (1806-77) "
which appears in the forty-ninth volume of the
' Dictionary ' ?
1. It is there stated " Rogers married twice." In
fact he married four times. His first two mar-
riages are correctly recorded in the * Dictionary,'
but the third and fourth are omitted. Seven
years after the death of his second wife, he married
Emma, daughter of Mr. John Watson, of Finsbury
Square, London and she, like his second wife, died
when giving birth to her first child. After again
remaining a widower for upwards of ten years, in
1857 he married Jane, eldest daughter of Mr.
Samuel Fletcher, of Manchester. His fourth wife
survived him, and died in 1891, having endowed
scholarships in memory of her husband at the Lan-
cashire Independent College and the Owens
College, Manchester. Henry Rogers's successive
marriages are accurately stated in Dr. Dale's
memoir, prefixed to the eighth edition of 'The
Superhuman Origin of the Bible ' (1893), which is
several times referred to as an authority by the
writer in the ' Dictionary.'
2. Among the articles stated in the 'Diction-
ary ' to be " understood to be his work " are
included 'Coal' (Good Words, April, 1863),
'Coal and Petroleum' (ibid., May, 1863), 'The
Duration of our Coalfields' (ibid., April, 1864).
None of these articles was written by Henry
Rogers, though all are stated to be so in Dr. Dale's
memoir. Their author was Henry D. Rogers, of
the University of Glasgow.
3. Henry Rogers's remains were not, as stated
in the 'Dictionary,' "interred in St. Luke's
Church, Cheetham Hill, Manchester," but in St.
Luke's Churchyard.
The statement that Rogers held " the suicidal
position that reason rests on faith " is an opinion
which, though the writer of the article is, of course,
entitled to hold it, will not be accepted as correct
by many, probably not by any careful readers of
Reason and Faith.' JOHN CREE.
The Pinea, Windlesham.
PRENDERGAST - WILLIAMS.— The statements in
the ' Calendars of Gwynedd,' compiled by Mr.
idward Breese, F.S.A., and published in 1873,
are usually so accurate that I was recently sur-
prised to notice some mistakes on p. 62 of that
work. It was not Terence Prendergast, of Marie,
co. Carnarvon, who was sheriff of Carnarvon,
1779-80, but his brother Jeffery, as correctly
stated in vol. i. p. 346 of the ' Annals and Anti-
quities of the Counties and County Families of
Wales,' by Thomas Nicholas, published in 1875.
On the marriage of Capt. Terence Prendergast
with Anne, Lady Prendergast, widow of the Right
Hon. Sir Thomas Prendergast, of Gort, second
baronet, who was nominated Viscount Olonmell,
but died s.p., 23 Sept., 1760, before the patent was
completed, Terence Prendergast took the surname
of Williams, in accordance with the provisions of
an indenture, dated 27 Jan., 1761, a copy of which
is in my possession. The will of this said Terence
Prendergast- Williams is at Somerset House (Book,
Hay, f. 224), and was proved by Jeffery Prender-
gast, his brother. One of the bequests under the
will is the following : "The house at Marie with
its furniture is for the use of my brother Jeffery."
I may also add that the testator desired to be
buried in his vault at Llan Rhos, in the county of
Carnarvon. The church registers at Rhos record
the following burials : " Lady Anne Prendergast-
Williams, 21 Dec., 1770"; "Terence Prendergast-
Williams, 3 Oct., 1776."
The particulars added by the late Mr. Wynne.,
of Peniarth, in a foot-note to p. 62 of the ' Calen-
dars of Gwynedd ' respecting the death of Anne,
Lady Prendergast, are also incorrect. She died at
Nantgwilym, in the parish of Bodfari, Flintshire.
Her will, in which she is described as Dame Anne
Prendergast, otherwise Williams, of Pantglas, co.
Carnarvon, is in the district registry at St. Asaph,
and was proved on 8 Feb., 1771, by William
Roberts, the sole executor, to whom she left all
her remaining property, the bulk of which, it is
true, had been alienated during bar lifetime.
William Roberts, the executor, was a lieutenant
in the Royal Navy, and was buried in July, 1791,
at St. Paul's Church, Covent Garden, London.
A. E. R.
LANCASHIRE CUSTOMS. — Mr. Henry Oakey, of
Fulwood, Preston, communicated to me the follow-
ing facts ; and upon my requesting permission to
print them in 'N. & Q.' he has very kindly allowed
me to do so. Additional interest attaches to them
from the fact that Mr. Oakey is an octogenarian,
and personally remembers the customs of which he
has told me.
During the years 1829-30, Mr. Oakey went to
school at Woodplumpton, Lancashire, and the
following custom was then observed in the church-
yard of that parish. When any of the parishioners
had been fined for drunkenness, the sum imposed
was always expended upon loaves of bread, which
were, upon the conclusion of morning service on
the following Sunday, distributed to the poor who
had attended the church service, in the churchyard.
The bread was merely taken into the church for
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safety daring the service, and was not taken up to
the altar, but was in the charge of the sexton, J.
Billington, and his brother, the parish clerk, who
afterwards assisted him in its distribution.
If any sales were to take place during the coining
week, the auctioneer used to announce them by
mounting a tombstone and reading out the time
and place of the sale.
It was then customary for the old women to
curtsey on coming into the church, and the old
men stroked their right hands over their brows
and faces as they entered the church or passed
before the altar.
Mr. Oakey tells me that he can remember that
funeral processions used to halt for rest in the
neighbourhood of Preston at the remains of any
wayside crosses which they might pass, and they
would at these spots offer up a prayer; and he has
been told that this use is still kept up in some
places, although he does not himself know it.
He believes that it was Eoman Catholics only
who thus stayed at the crosses ; but upon this
point he is not absolutely certain. He has recently
been informed that at the present time Eoman
Catholic funerals sometimes stop for a few minutes
before the gates of the English Martyrs' Church in
Preston, on their way to the cemetery, and judges
this to be a survival of the custom.
He remembers when it was customary in
country churches in Lancashire, in the early part
of the century, for the churchwardens to leave the
church directly after the Litany to look after the
loiterers in lanes and public-houses, and to compel
them to go into church. Mr. Oakey well knows,
too, that at times these guardians of other people's
morals were not at all averse to refreshing them-
selves after their labours in this direction by some-
thing more potent than water at the very public-
houses they had cleared, ere they again returned
to the church.
It was also customary at Walton-le-Dale Church
for the churchwardens to perambulate the aisles
at afternoon service, with white wands in their
hands, to awaken sleepers. The schoolmaster
used to look after the scholars, and any inattentive
lad used to get rapped over the head (or nutted,
as it was called), and not too gently, for the noise
of the blow was heard throughout the church.
FLORENCE PEACOCK.
Kirton-in-Lindsey.
"He had just succeeded to the title by the death of
his brother Washington, Vice-Admiral of the Blue, who
had begun to rebuild the mansion of Stanton-Harold,
according to a plan of his own, and lived to Bee it nearly
finished."
This identification is entirely incorrect. The
person in question is not Robert, Earl Ferrers,
but George Townshend, Baron de Ferrers of
Chartley, eldest son of the first Marquis Towns-
hend, whom he succeeded as marquis in 1807,
haying previously (in 1784) been created Earl of
Leicester. George Townshend came into the
barony of De Ferrers in 1770, on the death of
his mother, Charlotte Compton, daughter of the
fifth Earl of Northampton, who was Baroness de
Ferrers of Chartley in her own right. She in-
herited the title from her mother, Elizabeth Shir-
ley, who succeeded to it on the death without issue
of her brother Robert (died 1714), the eldest son
of Robert Shirley and Anne Ferrers. This Robert
Shirley was eldest son of Sir Robert Shirley,
Baron de Ferrers of Chartley (1678), subsequently
(in 1711) created Viscount Tamworth and first
Earl Ferrers (died 1717), whom he predeceased
(1699), the earldom going to his younger brother
(the second son) Washington, and the barony of
Ferrers of Chartley going to his daughter Eliza-
beth (granddaughter of the first earl).
Robert, sixth Earl Ferrers (1778-87), to whom
Wright refers, was third son of Lawrence Shirley,
the tenth son of the first Earl Ferrers, having
succeeded his two elder brothers Lawrence and
Washington, respectively fourth and fifth earls,
the former of whom was the Earl Ferrers hanged
for the murder of his steward in 1760.
Tamworth Castle was only in possession of the
Shirleys for one generation (1668-1716), through
the marriage of Robert Shirley, eldest son of the
first Earl Ferrers, with Anne Ferrers, daughter
and heiress of Sir Humphry Ferrers, of Tamworth
Castle. Stanton-Harold, mentioned by Wright,
was the principal seat of the Shirleys, Earls Ferrers.
HELEN TOYNBEE.
Dorney Wood, Burnham, Bucks.
HORACE WALPOLE AND HIS EDITORS: LORD
DE FERRERS.— In a letter to the Rev. Wm. Cole,
dated 3 Jan., 1779 (Cunningham's ed., vol. vii.
p. 159), Horace Walpole writes as follows : —
' Lord de Ferrers, who deserves hia ancient honours,
is going to repair the castle at Tamwortb, and has flattered
me that he will consult me."
Wright, in his note, identifies this Lord de
Ferrers with Robert, sixth Earl Ferrers. He says :
CANON DRIVER ON USURY. — Canon Driver's
note to Dent, xxiii. 19, in his commentary on the
fifth book of the Hexateuch (as critics say), con-
tains a description of usury the accuracy of which
maybe questioned. He translates thus : "Thou
shalt not make thy brother give interest"
fl$l) ; and then he explains that 1$} (biting) is,
" no doubt, properly something bitten off the sum
lent, in modern parlance, interest " (italics are the
commentator's). A corroborative quotation from
Prof. Robertson Smith's 'Old Testament in the
Jewish Church ' is given in a foot-note ; but this
does not enable one to understand how an addition
to a sum is something taken from it. With due
deference it may be suggested that that which is
8'" 8. XI. AraiL 10, W.]
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bitten off is taken from the borrower's profit.
Canon Driver sees in the passage on which he
comments a prohibition, not of interest on
advances of money needed for development of
industry, but of demands for additions to loans
that have been made under circumstances con-
stituting a claim to kindliness and sympathy. In
the event of such a demand the Hebrew term used
here would be applicable, if we may regard the
term as signifying a deduction from that which the
loan had enabled the borrower to procure for his
own use. F. JARRATT.
Goodleigh Kectory, Barnstaple.
DR. NANSEN. — Should this noble-hearted Arctic
explorer be made a D.O.L. of Oxford, or LL.D. of
Cambridge, I would suggest that no better or more
appropriate motto for him could be found than the
line of Virgil, written of Daedalus, in the sixth book
of the ' jEneid ':—
Insuetum per iter gelidas enavit ad Arctos.
E. WALFORD.
Ventnor,
We muit request correspondents desiring information
on family matters of only private interest to affix their
names and addresses to their queries, in order that the
answers may be addressed to them direct.
" HAKE."— In Browning's poem entitled 'Christ-
mas Eve/ st. xiv, , occurs the passage : —
And giving hia head of hair— a hake
Of undressed tow, for colour and quantity —
One rapid and impatient shake.
I should be glad to know if anything is known of
this word hake. In the ' Encyclopaedic Dictionary '
the passage is quoted, and the sense assigned " as
much flax or hemp as is hackled at once." But
no such meaning of the word is known to us, nor
have we been able to find any one who recognizes
it. Perhaps some reader of ' N. & Q.' may have
better luck. Or must we suppose that it is merely
a " ghost-word," which presented itself to Brown-
ing's imagination as something he had at some
time seen or heard, and was welcomed as a rhyme
to shake? J. A. H. MURRAY.
Oxford.
"BUSKET." — This occurs as an English word in
a Latin poem of the thirteenth century, entitled
Norfolchise Descriptionis Impugnatio,' which is
printed in T. Wright's ' Early Mysteries ' (1838),
pp. 99-106, and is to be met with Englished in the
Norfolk Antiquarian Miscellany, ii. 373-82.
From this poem it seems that "busket" was a
favourite beverage of Norfolk farmers after market,
though it could not have been a very exhilarating
The poet tells us that it was compound of
:er with wine dregs without any malt. This
sage in the ' Impugnatio ' appears to be at pre-
sent our sole authority for this Norfolk word. I
should be glad to hear of any other instance of the
occurrence of the word. A. L. MAYHEW.
Oxford.
POPULAR NAMES OP DRUGS. — Can any corre-
spondent refer me to a book or list containing
popular names of drugs and other medicines sold
at a druggist's or a chemist's ? E.
'JOURNAL OP DEAN ROWLAND DAVIES.' — I am
anxious to verify my descent from Dean Rowland
Davies, of Cork, whose ' Journal ' (1689) was pub-
lished by the Camden Society in 1856. I have
failed to ascertain who is in possession of the MS.
of this 'Journal,' and of other papers mentioned
therein, although I know that there are several
different branches of the family still surviving.
Can any one tell me where the MS. may be seen?
RANDALL DAVIES.
THE FIREBRACE FAMILY BIBLE, Cambridge,
J. Hayes, 1673, 4to.— This Bible was sold by
auction by Messrs. Puttick & Simpson on 26 June,
1873, as lot 995, to Messrs. Sotheran (of Picca-
dilly), which firm sold it very shortly afterwards
to some one whose name and address they did not
take note of. Thus I am unable to trace it further. I
am most anxious to know its present whereabouts.
Will any one kindly help me ? C. MASON.
29, Emperor's Gate, S.W.
LIEUT. -CoL. FRANCIS FRENCH STAUNTON (1779-
1825) distinguished himself at Korigaum, in India,
1 Jan., 1818. Any particulars as to his family,
place of birth, or descendants would be welcome.
T. S,
15, Waterloo Place.
CARRICK. — Was this name brought over with
Robert de Brueys from Normandy ; or was Carrick
in Renfrew (Scotland) of local origin; and was
Carrickfergus, on the opposite coast of Ireland, in
any way connected with the above ? T. W. 0.
"Acs OP HEARTS" GAME. — In vol. i. of the
new ' Encyclopaedia of the Laws of England ' a
game called " Ace of Hearts " is mentioned, under
that heading, as being an unlawful game, forbidden
by sec. 2 of 12 Geo. II. cap. 28. I should be
glad of information as to how this game (of cards,
I presume) was played. F. C. PHILLIPS.
EDMUND WALLER, THE POET, of Hall Barn
Beaconsfield, married, secondly, Mary of the Bresse
or Breaux ; she died 1677. According to some
authorities she belonged to an Oxfordshire family
of the name of Bracey, who resided at Thame.
The tradition in the Waller family is that ehe was
a Creole, and that Waller married her in Jamaica,
where he was exiled circa 1644. This seems to be
supported, her eldest son Benjamin having settled
in the West Indies, I should be grateful for any
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information that would enable me to trace the
lady's family and genealogy.
RACHEL DE SALIS.
Dawley Court, Uxbridge.
THE FOLK-LORE OP PEELING LIPS. — The fourth
act of Ben Jonson's ' Cynthia's Revels ' opens with
a dialogue of ladies who are waiting for a draught
of the water from the Fountain of Self-love : —
"Philantia. The very mention of it [i.e. the water]
seta my lips in a worse heat than if he had sprinkled
them with mercury. Beach me the glass, sirrah
" Moria. They do not peel, sweet Charge, do they ]
" Phi. Yes, a little, Guardian.
"Moria. O, 'tis an eminent good sign. Ever when
my lips do so, I am sure to have aome delicious good
drink or other approaching."
Is there any confirmation to be found of this
superstition? PERCY SIMPSON.
78TH HIGHLANDERS.— I should be much obliged
for information on the following subjects. I may
premise by saying that the secretary of the Society of
Antiquaries of Scotland was good enough to interest
himself therein, without success. What was the
plaid of the original 78th (Frazer) Highlanders of
1757, and the original 71st (Frazer) Highlanders
of 1775 ? The presumption is it was that of the
clan, at least in the first of the two ; but we want
to be certain. What was the plaid of Mont-
gomerie's 77th Highlanders, 1757 1 The name of
the regiment does not suggest a plaid. The colonel
was afterwards Earl of Eglintoun. What was the
plaid of the 84th Royal Highland Emigrants
(1775), formed largely of discharged 42nd, 78th,
77th Highlanders. Let us bear in mind that the
composed plaid of the first named of these corps was
probably in store, and it might have been used.
Ancestors and relatives served in the 77th, 78th,
and 84th as officers, but we have no family tradi-
tion of the plaids, except that that of the last-
named corps was dark green. The generally
accessible works on Highland regiments are silent.
DAVID Ross McOoKD. Q.C.
Montreal, Canada.
"MANTIS CHRISTI."— In 'Arcana Fairfaxiana
Manuscripta,' p. 118, I find :-—
"To make Manus Christi.— Take half a pound of
refined Sugar and some Base Water, and boyl it till it
come to Sugar againe; then stirre it a little about and
putt in yr Leaf-gold : then cast it according to Art into
little round gobletts and soe keep them."
Were any special virtues ascribed to this con-
fection that it received so high a name? Was
there ever an edition of the ' Arcana ' in ordinary
type ? The above is from a copy of the issue in
facsimile. ' ST. SWITHIN.
SIR MATHEW FEATHERSTONHAUGH. — Can any
of your readers give me any information of Sir
Mathew and his brothers Robert and the Rev.
[Jtrick Featherstonhaugh, where they were born
and buried, and of the descendants of the same •
I should be very thankful for a pedigree of the
family from the death of Sir Henry, who died 1746.
D. WRIGHT.
21, Bottomley Street, Middlesbro.
COLCHESTER M.P.S. — J. shall be greatly obliged
if any of your readers can give me information as
to Edward Carey, elected M.P. for Colchester in
1690, died in 1692, his place being taken by Isaac
Rebow. I am also wanting particulars as to
William Gore, M.P. 1710-15, to enable me to
complete some notices of our borough members
from 1547 to the present time.
GEO. RICKWORD.
Public Library, Colchester.
BARON PERRTN. — I am anxious to get a list of the
children of Sir Richard Perryn, one of the Barons of
the Exchequer. The ( Dictionary of National Bio-
graphy ' simply refers to them collectively, but I
want a complete list of names, and if possible their
births and deaths. The ' Alumni Westmonasteri-
enses ' gives all the desired particulars of one of
the sons, Richard, who was incumbent of Standish.
Three of the sons were in the army at about the
same time, and according to the Gentleman's Maga-
zine two died in 1796, one as lieutenant-colonel,
and the other as brigadier-general ; and another,
a major, died at Ulverstone, Lanes, in 1805. I
am anxious to differentiate these three, and to
know when they received their respective appoint-
ments. Of the daughters, one married John
Edward Maddocks, Esq., of Vron Iw, and the
other Capt. Alexander Hathfield, of the 15th
Regiment of Dragoons. Who is the present
representative of the family ? The name is not in
any of Burke's works. W. ROBERTS.
Carl ton Villa, Klea Avenue, Clapham.
" RENTAL " OP THE COLLEGE OF WYE, KENT.
— Will you be so good as to give me the kind
assistance of your columns in endeavouring to find
out the whereabouts of an original " rental " of the
college of Wye, in Kent,? The original, which is
in Latin and dated October, 1544, was formerly in
the possession of the Rev. Samuel Pegge, some-
time vicar of Godmersham. There is a copy or
translation of it with the Hasted Manuscripts in
the British Museum ; and a translation is printed
in Morris's ' History of Wye,' published in 1842.
FRANK SELBY.
THE FIRST TWENTY BRITISH STEAMERS. — Can
any of your readers help me in the compilation of
a list of the first twenty British steamboats ? I
know there were two boats by Symington ; then
the Comet, Elizabeth, Clyde, Margery, Glasgow,
Prince of Orange (all Clyde boats) ; a Norwich
boat made at Leeds in 1813, one at Manchester,
and another at Bristol, also in 1813 ; in 1814 one on
the Humber, and on the Forth the Lady of the
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Lake and the Morning Star ; in 1815 there were the
Argyll, Oscar, and Dumbarton Castle. I have
singled these out as among the thirty or forty
steamboats that ran in 1815 ; but I should like, ii
possible, to get a list in strict order of date. It
used to be said that only ten British steamers
existed in 1815, but records remain of over thirty,
and I think there may have been as many as forty.
When was the first steamer built on the Tyne ?
S. COTTERELL.
63, Frederick Road, Aston.
AUTHOR AND SOURCE WANTED. — Can anybody
tell me where and when the following lines first
appeared, and by whom they were composed ?—
Lucas, Evangelii et medicinae munera pandens,
Artibus bine, illinc religions valet :
Utilia ille labor per quern vixere tot segri ;
Utilior per quern tot didicere mori.
For want of a better rendition, I venture to submit
the following translation, or paraphrase, of the
original : —
Luke, dealing medical and gospel gifts,
Wields tbe twin powers of science and of faith ;
Precious tbe gift wbicb shows us how to live ;
More precious that which shows us how to die.
PATRICK MAXWELL.
Bath.
" JOHN TROT." — What is the origin of the term
" John Trot " as used in the following expressions ?
" You will pardon me if I give you my John Trott
opinion upon this affair." — Letter of Charles Montagu,
1747.
' This [bis friendsbip with the Queen of Spain] would
make my way at Madrid sooner tban Jobn Trot from
home would be able to do it." — Lord Ty raw ley to Henry
Fox, 1756.
" A series of English coins, with downright John
Trot guineas, half-guineas, shillings, sixpences, and every
kind of current money." — Horace Walpole to Sir H,
Mann, 1771.
The meaning of the expression is tolerably clear.
It will be seen that the above examples all ocour
in correspondence of the last century.
HELEN TOYNBEE.
Dorney Wood, Burnham, Bucks.
[" John Trot " is a signature appended by Bolingbroke,
in 1728, to some letters in the Craftsman attacking the
foreign policy of the Government. Is there not also an
epigram beginning something like
John Trot was invited by two worthy peers
To tell them the reason that asses had ears ?]
GEORGE LIPSCOMB, Author of 'A Journey
into Cornwall, through the Counties of Southamp-
ton, Wilts, Dorset, Somerset, and Devon,' War-
wick, 8vo., 1799. — Who was he ? Portchester is
the place from which he began his tour. The
name is well known in Hampshire. Kobert Lips-
comb, in 1711, left a charity of 4J. 10*. to the
poor of Preston Candover, in the same county,
still known as Lipscomb's gift ; and many others of
the same name are noted in parish documents. In
the trial of Capt. Burley, at Winchester, 1648,
for plotting the king's rescue from Carisbrooke
Castle, Mercurius Rusticus remarks on one of the
jury, Arthur Lipscomb, of the neighbouring parish
of Bradley, in one word " Coxcomb." In the same
year, on a trial of Capt. Rolph for planning the
king's death at Carisbrooke, Arthur Lipscomb, of
Alresford, gent., is stated to have been on the jury,
together with John Yeardley, of Preston Candover,
gent. Desired particulars of the family of Lips-
comb and also of Yeardley. VICAR.
THE BOOK OF COMMON PEAYEB IN LATIN.
(8ttS. xi. 101.)
Ab the end of his excellent bibliography of this
subject, at the above reference, DR. SIMPSON asked
for additions. I can give one, and that a moat
remarkable one, a veritable curiosity of literature,
and a great rarity. It is the Book of Common
Prayer in Latin, privately and secretly printed
during the power of the Commonwealth and the
reign of the Directory, and turned into elaborate
Latin verse of various metres. The author goes
through the whole Morning and Evening Prayer,
Absolution, Litany, Creeds, Commandments,
Collects— right down to the services for Baptism,
Matrimony, and Burial. The familiar words used
in our churches every Sunday appear in the strange
garb of alcaics, sapphics, phaleucians, asclepiads,
glyconios, iambics, hexameters, elegiacs, and here
and there some adonics to add to the variety. I
do not remember any similar tour de force either
in Latin or any other well-known tongue. Of
course the New Testament, the ' Imitatio Christ!,'
' Telemachus,' and many other famous books have
been translated into Latin verse again and again,
but it has nearly always been one kind of verse
throughout, either the hexameter or elegiac metre,
and the subject matter was never so strangely
varied as is the case with our Book of Common
Prayer. There would be considerable difficulty in
finding a book that could claim a proxime accessit,
but in my library I have two which I think
deserve "honourable mention," viz. (1) the whole
* Theologia Scholastica' of Duns Scotus (an immense
work) turned into rhyming Latin monkish verse,
in the style of Walter Mapes— this consists of 18,900
lines ; and (2) our friend ' Don Quixote ' versified
in the Spenserian stanza — here are 24,768 lines in
a certainly difficult metre. The title of the book
which I have been referring to "is "Liturgica
Sacra: Curru Thesbitico, i.e., Zeli inculpabilis
vehiculo deportata et via devotionis Regia deducta
a Rand. Gilpin, Sacerd. vel, opsonia spiritualia
omnibus vere Christianis, etiam pueris degustanda.
Anno. Dom. 1657 " (s. I). Who would ever guess
from this title that the work was our Common
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Prayer Book in various Latin metres ? If we look
out "Kandolph Gilpin" in the 'Diet. Nat. Biog.'
we shall find all that is known of him personally,
and the following meagre allusion to his one pub-
lished book: "During the Commonwealth he
occupied himself in the composition of a little
work which he dedicated to Eton School." Then
follows the title, but not a word as to the remark-
able character of the book ; perhaps the writer had
never seen it ; that might well be the case, for my
copy has this inscription in an old hand— nee ubivis
obvius — pointing, of course, to the rarity. A few
samples may therefore be acceptable. The third
Collect at Evening Prayer " Lighten our darkness,"
&c. , is thus rendered in iambic dimeters : —
Nos te rogamus supplices
Solita tua dementia
Depelle noctem mentibus
Per Lucia influxum tuae ;
Et so.-pita de casibua
Inauspicatis omnibus
Qui forte nobis imminent
A nocte quae nunc volvitur.
The Doxology he renders in adonics, and then, as a
variation, in glyconics : —
Sacerdos. Gloria patri,
De patre nato,
Spirituique.
P^spt Ut fait esto ;
Ut quoque nunc est,
Esto per sevum.
Sac. Patri gloria sit Deo,
Divinae soboli decua ;
Sacro spirituique honor.
Resp. Illis ut fuit, eat, erit
Prima mundi ab origine
Ante et secula condita,
Mox per secula posters,
Nunc per aecla fluentia,
Esto secla per omuia.
Gilpin turns the Collects into alcaics, sapphics, and
iambic dimeters, the last being his favourite metre,
and many portions of the Communion Service,
Confirmation, and the Catechism are very happily
rendered ; but I think his greatest success is with
the Baptismal Service, or "Sanctum Lavacrum,"
as the heading is. I do not believe it at all likely
that the whole office for the Public Baptism of
Infants has ever elsewhere been turned into verse
in any language, or ever will be ; it is a subject
that does not lend itself to such treatment. How-
ever, as all clergymen and most Churchmen are
well acquainted with the post-baptismal formula,
* We receive this child into the congregation of
Christ's flock," &c., I will, as a last specimen, give
Kandolph Gilpin's version : —
Istum tenellum post latices sacros
Sanctia catervis annumeramus, huic
Signum crucia, profession!
Addimus ut specimen verendum :
Ut Christianas Crux patientiae
Post hac, pusillo tessera sit, fidem
Ne deserat pudore victus
Arbore quod Dominus perpendit,
Adveraua orbem vimque Satanicam
Carnem dolosam, sub cruce militet,
Et serviat Christo Magiatro,
Ultima dum veniant ferenda,
QUID NIMIS.
East Hyde.
I have a copy of Durel's edition, 1670, with
which is an appendix containing some Psalms in
Latin metre. The title-page is as follows : " Psalmi
Aliquot-Davidici. In Metrum Latinum Traducti.
Cum Adjectione Decem Psalmorum ad notas suas
Musicas (ut in Anglicana versione) Compositorurn.
In usum Academise. Cum Conciones habeantur
ad Clerum. Oxonise. Excudebat W. H. et
venales prostant apud Ric. Davis. 1670." The
Psalms are numbered, Psalmus Primus, xiii., xlii.,
xliii., Ixvii., Ixx., xciii. c., cxii., cxiii., cxiv., cxvii.,
cxix., cxxii., cxxiii., cxxviii., cxxxi., cxxxiii.,
cxxxvii., cxlviii., Psalmus Ultimus, and a " Lamen-
tatio," "In te confido Domine." There are
melodies set to ten of the above, and cross refer-
ences for their use to the other numbers. Who
was W. H. ? S. P. E. S.
SHARP'S ' BISHOPRICS GARLAND ' : THE PELTON
BRAG (8"1 S. xi. 87).— The 'Bishoprick Garland'
is not a very common book, as only one hundred
and fifty copies were printed, and most of them
were given away by Sir Cuthbert Sharp as presents.
In these circumstances, perhaps the Editor may
find room for the account of the Pelton Brag
(p. 41) :-
" So many, and in such various shapes, haa the brag
appeared, that it became necessary to procure the best
local information on the subject, and an old woman
[M.A.] of respectable appearance, of about ninety years
of age, living near the spot, was universally referred to
as knowing 'most ' about it ; and her deposition is there-
fore given verbatim.
" She said, I never saw the ' brag ' very distinctly, but
I frequently heard it.
" It sometimes appeared like a calf with a white hand-
kerchief about its neck, and a bushy tail.
"It came also like a galloway, but more often like a
coach-horse, and went trotting along the 'lonin, afore
folks, settin up a great nicker and a whinney every now
and then'; and it came frequently like a 'dickass,' and
it always stopped at the pond at the four 'lonin ends,
and nickered and whinnied.'
" My brother once saw it like four men holding up a
white sheet. I was then sure that some near relation
was going to die ; which was true. My husband once
saw it in the image of a naked man without a head.
" I knew a man of the name of Bewick that was so
frightened, that he hanged himself 'for fear on't.'
Whenever the midwife was sent for, it always came up
with her in the shape of a galloway.
"Dr. Harrison wouldn't believe in it; but he met it
one night as he was going home, and it ' maist ' killed
him, but he never would tell what happened, and didn't
like to talk about it, and whenever the brag was men-
tioned, he sat ' trimilin and shakin ' by the fireside.
" My uncle had a white suit of clothes, and the first
time he ever put them on he met the brag, and he never
had them on afterwards but he met with some misfor-
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tune; and once when he met the brag and had his
white suit on (being a bold man), and having been at a
christening, he was determined to get on the brag's back ;
but when he com to the four 'lonin ends,' the brag
'joggled him so sore,' that he could hardly keep his
seat, and at last it threw him off into the middle of the
pond, and then ran away, setting up a great nicker and
laugh, just ' for all the world like a Christian.'
" But this I know to be true of my own knowledge,
that when my father was dying, the brag was heard
coming up the lonin like a coach and six, and it stood
before the house, and the room ' shaked,' and it gave a
terrible yell when my father died, and then it went
clatterin and gallopin down the lonin, as if ' yeben and
yerth was coming together.' '
My copy of the ' Garland ' was given by Sir
C. Sharp to Mr. Moore, " with many thanks for
the constant use of his valuable local collections
and general assistance/7 and it contains a privately
printed leaf with " Lines to S,. 0 S....,"
written apparently by G T....... Can any
northern correspondent of ' N. & Q.' obligingly
identify Mr. Moore and G. T. ?
W. F. PRIDEAUX.
Kingsland, Shrewsbury.
STEEL PENS (8th S. x. 47, 191).— Can you in-
form me of the earliest mention of a metal pen ?
From the poem in the ' Ooucher Book of Fnrness
Abbey,' written in 1412 by Richard Esk (' Annales
Furnesienses ' and Chetham Society publications,
vols. ix., xi., xiv., New Series), I extract the
following remarkable lines : —
Quern John Stell digitis monachus scripsit sine penna
Cujusquam volucris : careat sine fine Gehenna.
Istorum capita dant, Arbor, Genteque, Tumba,
Quo scripsit calamuin per paradigma suum.
Which may be roughly translated as follows : —
' Which the monk John Stell wrote with his fingers
without a quill of any kind The heads of these
words Arbor, G^Titeque, Twmba, give the pen with which
he wrote by a model [plan] of his own."
To me the above is a remarkable statement, and
I should like your opinion on it. Farther, can
you inform me at what date Furness was included
in the county of Lancaster ? In the * Domesday
Book ' it is stated to be in Yorkshire.
THOMAS ALDRED.
Free Public Library, Barrow-in-Furness.
GEORGE MORLAND, SENIOR (8th S. xi. 8, 74,
147, 238).— The " laundress " pictures after Henry,
not George Morland, are not now paired in the
same way as first published.
The females hanging out clothes from a window
and soaping linen were published in mezzotint by
Sayer & Bennett in 1774, in two sizes. Caring-
ton Bowles did the lady ironing by itself, which
now pairs with the figure soaping.
Henry Morland painted several similar subjects,
in which he introduced the portraits of Miss
Morland and Miss Dawe ; there were ' The Letter
Woman,' ' The Oyster Woman/
If EILLIOREW will send me his address, I will
forward him photographs of a pair of oil paintings
T had, though now I only have the lady ironing.
The lady soaping linen disappeared in the same
way as Gainsborough's * Duchess of Devonshire,'
while on loan. She had a pink dress flowered, and
was in a handsome old Florentine frame. If any
one has seen such a picture, I shall be greatly
obliged by a communication. The frame had
jessamine flowers carved on the corners and centres.
I had both photographed before the one disap-
peared. HILDA GAMLIN.
Camden Lawn, Birkenhead.
SOURCE OP QUOTATION (8th S. xi. 228).— The
picture in the Liverpool Gallery referred to by ME.
N. L. H. MILLARD is by J. M. Jopling, and was
purchased by the Corporation from the first
Autumn Exhibition in 1871. The first line of
the title- quotation is "Sweet eyes of starry tender-
ness." The author's name is not given in the cata-
logue.
E. RlMBAULT DlBDIN.
Surely this is the artist's version of Tennyson's
"The star-like sorrows of immortal eyes" (Helen,
in * A Dream of Fair Women ').
ARTHUR MATALL.
GEORGE BAXTER (8th S. T. 133).— This artist
was celebrated for a novel method of printing in
oil colours, which he invented and patented. His
process, though involved in considerable obscurity,
was in effect a species of chiaroscuro work, with
this difference, that the first block, or plate, was
fully engraved, the subsequent plates, or blocks,
being used for the sole purpose of introducing the
various colours necessary to "build up" the
picture on which he was engaged.
DANIEL HIPWELL.
"RIGMAROLE" (8» S. x. 495; xi. 154).— Good
Dr. Brewer gave countenance to a long discarded
explanation confounding Bagimund's Roll with
Ragman Roll. Baiamund de Vicci came from
Rome to collect the tenth of ecclesiastical benefices
in Scotland for the relief of the Holy Land in 1275
(0. Innes, 'Lectures,' p. 190). But his famous
valuation has no claim to rank as the occasion of
the title Ragman Roll, best known from its having
been applied to the Scottish homages taken by
Edward I. in 1296. That title, if we may trust
the evidence of the 'Chronicle of Lanercost'
(p. 261), written in the middle of the fourteenth
century, was bestowed by the Scots. It was
applied to what is called an instrument or charter
of submission and homage falling to be done to the
kings of England, to which were appended the seals
of all the magnates of Scotland, which (charter)
they granted to Edward I., and which, on account
of the many seals appended to it, was called Rag-
man by the Scots — " et a Scottis propter multa
sigilla dependentia Ragman vocabatur." Thomas
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NOTES AND QUERIES. [»* a xi. A™* 10, vr.
Thomson, in many respects the master antiquary
of Scotland during the present century, had a joke
over the rolls (for, as MR. HOOPER'S quotations
show, the plural is the correct form), when in editing
them he said that some of the seals had been, not
inappropriately, secured by hempen cords. ('Rag-
man Rolls,' Bannatyne Club, p. xiv ; Palgrave's
* Documents and Records,' pp. cxxi-ii; Bain's
'Calendar,' ii, pp. xxiv-vi.) The Ragimond story
was exploded so long ago as the beginning of the
century, when Dr. Jamieson devoted an admirable
article in his ' Dictionary ' to " Ragman's Row."
GEO. NEILSON.
WOODEN PITCHERS (8th S. xi. 189).— From the
description given, these would appear to be what
are known in Scotland as water-stoups. About
two feet high, and double the top width downwards,
they have a bar across the mouth for lifting them
by. They are usually painted green on the outside,
but the peasant with an artistic sense is not always
satisfied with the article as it comes from the work-
shop, and does not hesitate to satisfy his own
sense of propriety by giving it a massive coat of
white or blue, or other colour, according to pre-
dilection. This is the kind of utensil that figures
in the Jacobite lyric " Our goodman came hame at
e'en.'1 The goodwife, ^ith Stuart sympathies, has
a wanderer in hiding, and as her lord, return-
ing from the day's occupations, nears home, he
is first struck by the unusual appearance of " a
saddle horse " on the premises, and astonished to
learn that his mother-in-law has presented his
spouse with a cow wearing a saddle. Then his
attention is arrested by a pair of jackboots " where
nae boots should be." Feminine ingenuity
promptly explains that failing eyesight confounds
things that are perfectly distinct for ordinary
observation, for the supposed boots are "but a
pair of water stoups " sent by the cooper. Surprise
naturally deepens, and the astonished discoverer
exclaims : —
Far hae I riden
And farer hae I gane,
But siller spurs on water stoups,
Saw I never nane.
See Herd's * Ancient and Modern Scottish Songs,'
«<*. 1791- THOMAS BATNE.
Helensburgb, N.B.
I have seen such pitchers in old farm-houses in
the neighbourhood of Gace", Basse Normandie. I
once saw one at Rouen, and I have several times
noticed them in villages in the Seine Infe'rieure.
They are made of wooden staves, which are kept
in position by iron hoops. The French name for
this kind of vessel is un broc (pronounced bro).
F. J. BATHO.
Clapham,
OLNEY (8to S. xi. 5, 135, 217).—Inasmuch as I
quoted the ipsissima verba of Mr. Wright, written
in reply to my special inquiry by letter, respecting
the correct local pronunciation of the name of his
town of Olney, there could have been no misunder-
standing whatever on my part as to his mean-
ing; the query being as to a matter of fact, no
opinion was called for, nor any given by me. The
local pronunciation of a place-name is controlled
by custom, and not by education, and the " upper
and middle classes" have no voice in the matter.
Although beside the question, I may state in op-
position that " the lower orders," as E. S. W. is
pleased to class his late flock, prevail in a vast
majority in the town of Cowper ; and that I have
heard its name pronounced elsewhere, (1) as
formerly written, Oulney (i.e., with the out as in
soul), and not " with the ol as in pole," which is
impossible ; (2) as if spelt Ownly ; (3) as Ol'ney.
I certainly cannot advise the acceptation of
E. S. W.'s dictum herein. W. I. R. V.
It is to be feared that E. S. W. is too modern
in his pronunciation. I remember many years ago
the noble owner of a fine old place near Olney
instructing a new comer, a young curate, that he
must not sound the second letter of Olney. The
name rhymed, he said, to pony. He added that
the spelling of village names thereabout was no
guide to their pronunciation. He would, I am
sure, have been shocked to hear Ravenston and
Lavenden pronounced as words of three syllables,
for in those days no one made them more than
two. They were called Rahnsun and Lahndun,
the vowel of the former syllable in each having the
same sound as the a in father. In those days Gay-
hurst was a monoysllable rhyming with bear'st,
nowadays people make it two syllables, and one
may regret that the village schoolmaster, who
rhymes Derby with Kirby, finds a supporter in
E. S. W. For myself I shudder to think of the
sound that Gloucester and Worcester must take in
his lips, and I marvel if he ever heard speak of the
great houses of Cholmondeley and Beauchamp.
J. S.
HILAIRE, COUNTESS NELSON (8th S. xi. 248).-
Hilare, third daughter of Sir Robert Barlow,
G.C.B., by his wife, Elizabeth, daughter of William
Garrett, married, first, on 27 Feb., 1817, her
cousin George Ulric Barlow, the eldest son of Sir
George Barlow, Bart., who died on 29 June, 1824.
She married, secondly, on 26 March, 1829, William,
Earl Nelson, who died on 28 Feb., 1835 ; and,
thirdly, on 7 Feb. 1837, George Thomas Knight.
She died in Paris on 22 Dec., 1857.
G. F. R -B
FOUR COMMON MISQUOTATIONS (8th S. x. 474,
523 ; xi. 91). — MR. CECIL WILLSON is right in
his conjecture that Mr. Chotzner's " ultra crepidam "
is not an unexplainable misquotation. The form
" Ne sutor ultra crepidam" came into use as a
Latin p royerb. It appears as such in the col
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lection, • Adagia,' typ. Wechel, folM 1629, which
contains all those in common use which occur in
Latin, at p. 63. That it is not a misquotation
without intention is apparent, as " supra crepidam "
is given in the passage from Pliny, * N. H. ,' xxxv.
10, which states the origin of it in full. There is
mention from Athenaeus of a similar proverb of the
musician Stratonicus in reference to a blacksmith
critic, " Non sentis, inquit, te ultra malleum loqui."
Buchmann,'Geflugelte Worte,'Berl., 1892, p. 392,
in his notice of the line, has : " Ne sutor supra
(nicht : ultra) crepidam." A similar proverb is
M?) vtrep TOV TroSa TO 'UTroSrjjtta, " Ne ultra pedem
calceus,'' or " Ne major sit pede oalceus." Lncian
refers to the proverb more than once, ' Adagia,'
u. s. p. 510. ED. MARSHALL,
A still earlier example of "Ne sutor ultra
crepidam " is to be found in "Epitome | Cbiliadum
Adagiorum | Erasmi Roterodami, | Ad domino-
diorem | Studiosorum Usum | Per Hadrianum |
Barlandum f Oonscri | pta. | Basileee Anno j
H.D xxvm. ': —
" Ne sutor ultra crepidam. — Mnnemur non iudicare de
re, quas sit ab arte quam didicerimus aliena. Historiam
unde eit natum adagium babes candide lector apud
Plinium."
It almost seems as though the proverb was so
familiar in the form " Ne sutor ultra crepidam,"
that Erasmus wrote it down in that form in spite
of his knowledge of the shape in which it appeared
in Pliny. JOHNSON BAILY.
Ryton Rectory.
The old proverb of " Ne sutor'supra crepidam,"
of which Pliny seems to have first made literary
use in his story of Apelles and the cobbler, has
been abundantly discussed in * N. & Q.' See 3rd
S. iii. 302 ; x. 169, 235, 323, 401 ; 4th S. iii. 226,
320, 396, 412, 441, 471. It was probably the fine
ear of Erasmus which gave the adagium the
smoother turn it now possesses.
W. F. PRIDEADX.
Kingsland, Shrewsbury.
Gibbon, perhaps under the lingering influence
of a tutor who "forgot that he had a duty to per-
form," writes " Uno avulso," in recording how, in
consideration of his feeble health, his father, de-
sirous to keep the name Edward in the family,
bestowed it again on the second son, and then
on four more. However, "quinque avulsis," the
five juniors being carried off in their infancy, " non
deficit primus," a fortunate survival of the first and
fittest. KlLLIQRBW.
Cairo.
'LANTHORN" (8th S. xi. 163, 217).— The Rev.
. Palmer, in his * Folk-Etymology,' states that
Asser claims for King Alfred the honour of being
the original inventor of horn lanterns, which by a
skilful invention he caused to be made of wood
and cows' horns. Hence, probably by a false
etymology, the word " lantern " came to be spelt as
above. The notion that the word is a " corruption
of lamp-horn" is as old at least as 1617, for Min-
sheu, in his 'Ductorin Linguas/ has, s. "lanterne":
"L. Laterna, quod in ea ignis lateat. Laterna Punica.
Cornu apud Plaut: in Amp hit: quod corneis lamellia cir-
cumclusa sit, ut ventorum flabra arceat, quasi lamps
home."
F. 0. BIRKBECK TERRY.
LETTER OF LORD BYRON (8th S. ix. 86, 112,
132, 156, 197, 273). ^MR. JOHN MURRAY was
good enough to examine the letter to Galignani
dated 27 April, 1819, which had come into my
hands under circumstances that led me into
supposing that it was none other than the original,
penned by Lord Byron. Careful inspection, how-
ever, revealed to MR. MURRAY, as well as to my
less practised eye, the fact that the document was
but an engraved facsimile of the original, produced
no doubt to serve as a frontispiece in the early
editions of Byron's works published by Galignani.
I owe it to the courtesy of MR. MURRAY that I am
no longer imposed upon by this distinctly clever
impression of the original. STUART BEVAN.
[See 7th S. xii. 347, 389; 8th S. i. 15.]
'CABAL" (!•« S. iv. 443, 507 ; v. 139, 520; 3r«
S. ix. 509 ; 4ta S. viii. 278). —The origin of this
word has been frequently discussed in the early
days of ' N. & Q.,' and it seems clear that it was
in use before 1672, when it is employed by Pepys.
The late Mr. Arthur Ashpitel gives an extract
from Lilly's catalogue, in which it occurs in the
title-page of a book dated 1612 (3rd S. ix. 509); it
is also employed in ' Theophania ' (1655, p. 147),
and Blount, in his ' Glossographia ' (third edition,
1670), explains its meaning. JOHN HEBB.
JESSAMY (8th S. xi. 148, 213).— When Gold-
smith spoke of Mary Horneck as a (<Jessamy
Bride," I do not think that he invented the epithet,
but simply used a word known to him in order to
express his idea of Mary's sweetness, daintiness,
and gracefulness. That "jessamy" is equivalent
to the jasmine flower can, I believe, admit of little
doubt. " Jessimy >; had been already used by
Pepys, in his 'Diary,' 15 Feb., 1668/9: "I did
this day call at the New Exchange, and bought
her a pair of green silk stockings, and garters, and
shoe-strings, and two pair of jessimy gloves, all
coming to about 28s." Mr. S. W. Beck, in * Gloves,
their Annals and Associations,1 1883, p. 163,
remarks that
"In a tabular statement, drawn up in obedience to
the commands of 'The Right Honourable the Lords
Commissioners for the Treaty of Commerce with Prance,'
and 'humbly tendered to their Lordships,' in 1674,
setting forth the particulars of the trade between the
two countries, ' Jessamin Gloves ' appear among the
'Toys for Women and Children, Pans, Laces, Point
Laces, rich embroidered garments, beds, and other vest
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menta, which are of incredible value.' imported from
France."
With regard to the use of jasmine, E. Phillips's
' New World of Words,' ed. 1720, has :—
" Jasmin, or Jessamin (Lat.), a shrub, the flowers of
which are of a delicate smell, and chiefly used to per-
fume gloves, to make Jessemin-Butter, &c.'"
Grose's 'Classical Dictionary of the Vulgar
Tongue' shows that in Grose's day "jessamy"
had come to be applied to a dandy, for he defines
the word as !<a smart jemmy fellow, a fopling."
He defines " jemmy fellow" as a "smart spruce
fellow." Halli well's ' Dictionary ' has : " Jemmy-
Jessamy. A fop, or dandy."
Is the expression "Jessamy Bride" coming into
general use ? I have met with it more than once
recently, and a novel by Frankfort Moore, just
published, is called ' The Jessamy Bride.'
F. 0. BIRKBECK TERRY.
GRETNA GREEN MARRIAGES (8th S. ix. 61, 149,
389).— In the Penny Illustrated Paper, 2 Jan., I
find the death of Willie Laing reported. He is
the last of the Gretna Green " priests," and his
age is given as eighty-five. <N. & Q.' is the
repository of much information on this subject,
perhaps some reader could furnish fuller parti-
culars. I also extract from a sub-leader of the
Daily Telegraph, 20 Jan., the following :—
"An interesting link with the past has been broken
by the death of John Howe, described as the last of the
Gretna Green post-boys, who lost his life, prosaically
enough, from a fall to the ground while engaged in clean-
ing the windows of a Carlisle bank. In the days of
runaway matches he was ' on the strength' of the posting
establishment of the Bush Hotel, which was one of the
most famous halting-places on the road from the south
to Gretna Green. In this capacity he no doubt piloted
many an eloping couple across the border to the ' black-
smith s, so that he must have had as much on his con-
science as most men who live to the age of seventy-seven."
W. A. HENDERSON.
Dublin.
" EYE-RHYMES " IN THE POEMS BY SURREY
AND WYATT (8th S. xi. 161, 253).— 0. C. B.'s
dictum on ear-rhymes under this heading must not
be allowed to pass uncontradicted. It may be
news to him, but it is nevertheless a fact, that in
the body of educated society whose seat is in Lon-
don, and from whom our standard of pronunciation
is derived, Jordan is pronounced Jawdan, and such
words as born and dawn have exactly the same
rhyming jaound. In other words the r, except so
far as it is used to broaden the sound, is perfectly
silent. In the body of which I speak there are no
doubt to be found exceptions, like Mr. Gladstone,
who through life have preserved a slight colouring
of local pronunciation ; but this is always made a
subject of remark, and helps to prove the existence
of the rule. I am not saying that the pronuncia-
tion of our educated society is superior to that
of many localities. Indeed, from the North comes
a much more forcible and virile manner of speech,
which is to be preferred to the colourless pattern
in vogue ; but that is beside the question ; the fact
remains as I have stated, and 0. C. B. is wrong.
In connexion with this subject, it maybe remarked
that eye-rhymes are very properly becoming recog-
nized as a species of poetical licence, used to eke
out the exigencies of verse. These, if too fre-
quently indulged in, would be destructive of rhyme,
for poetry and painting have this distinction, that
the one appeals to the mind through the ear and
the other to the mind through the eye. It is true
that the eye is often called into requisition in the
former case, when poetry is dethroned from its
proper office and is perused in private ; but even
then the sound is present in imagination, and
poetry would not be poetry without that accom-
paniment. In making this statement I lay myself
open to contradiction by that numerous class who,
possessing a defective ear, look only or mainly to
the sense. But these miss half the pleasure of
poetry, and are apt to judge it from an imperfect
standpoint. It is from this standpoint that
Browning is crowned king, though nowhere in his
poetry will you find such a combination of power
and sound as is to be found in Lear's curse,
Strike flat the thick rotundity of the world,
or such beautiful metrical composition as in Words*
worth's,
With Bheddinga from the pining umbrage tinged.
But the subject is a very wide and attractive one,
and if I expand it farther I shall be exceeding the
limits allowed by ' N. & Q.'
HOLCOMBE INGLEBY.
f PLAYING THE WAG "= PLAYING THE TRUANT
(8to S. vii. 7, 153 j viii. 32, 77).— It is some time
ago now since my query anent the origin of this
schoolboys' phrase appeared in these columns, but
we are still without any satisfactory evidence as to
its inception. I should have been very glad had the
mystery been cleared up. All we seem to know of
it is that it is a phrase common among the "young
ideas " to express "absenteeism" from school during
school-hours—improper "absenteeism" is, of course,
meant here — but whence the saying originally
sprang is shrouded in a sort of mystery. Even in
the latest and best of slang dictionaries — to wit,
' Slang and its Analogues,' by Mr. J. S. Farmer-
we find but little information. Mr. Farmer has it
that * ' To play the Charley wag " is a specimen of
schoolboy slang, signifying " to absent oneself from
school without leave"; healso gives another meaning
of the word, with which we are not here concerned.
Nothing is said about its etymology, which is pre-
sumably unknown. As with Mr. Farmer, so with
most other lexicographers. It is singularly strange
so little is known of so popular a phrase.
Two years ago or so the question was raised in
the well-known " Notes and Queries " columns of
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the Newcastle Weekly Chronicle. Many corre-
spondents replied ; bat, with the exception of the
following, from a Mr. H. Bourn, of Whickham, we
were not much the wiser. Mr. Bourn wrote as
follows : —
"Sometime since the origin of the phrase ' Play-
ing the wag ' was asked for, without, I believe, any satis-
factory explanation being forthcoming. When conversing
with an old man at Swalwell the other day, he informed
me that, when he attended school in that village eighty
years ago, if a scholar left the school for a few minutes,
a plummet, suspended from the ceiling by a string, was
set in motion, and should the scholar not return before
the plummet ceased to vibrate or wag he was told by the
master he had been ' playing the wag ' (during the wag-
ging of the plummet), for which he was punished. May
not the phrase ' Playing the wag ' have been afterwards
applied to the scholar who absented himself from school
against the command of his parents " — Newcastle
Weekly Chronicle, 20 July, 1895.
Now I think it will be agreed this item of
Mr. Bourn's is exceedingly interesting, and, as he
ventures to surmise, the " plummet- wagging" may
probably have given rise to the schoolboys' saying
we now know. But, of course, we must not be too
precipitate. All of us would like to hear some
thing more of the arrangement Mr. Bourn speaks
of. I am not quite sure of the locality of Swal-
well, but it is in the North Country. There are a
number of readers of (N. & Q.' who, upon this
intimation, may be disposed to make some inquiries
as to whether the proceedings of the pedagogue
referred to in the extract above were common, and
whatever else might suggest itself.
One other point, in conclusion, presents itself.
How comes " Charley " in connexion with " Wag " ?
As ST. 3 WITHIN has mentioned, Wag is a synonym
for Oharley ; it is a sort of nickname for the latter —
not only in Lincolnshire, may I add, but else-
where. In London it is far from uncommon. I
should not like to say how many times I myself
have been called so, nor Charley-wag. It might
be added that school children may often be heard
singing,
Charley wag, Charley wag,
Ate the pudding, and swallowed the bag.
Charley is a favourite name for children in their
games. Whence comes "Charley- wag" in the
foregoing old rhyme ? Another rhyme I have
)ften heard children singing in ring-games in
London is,
Charley likes his ale and beer,
Charley likes his brandy,
Charley likes to kiss the girls,
As sweet as sugar-and-candy.
Probably only one of many such rhymes. I wish
;o thank those of your readers who have replied to
ay query, and trust we may yet hear something
'urther. C. P. HALE.
JAMES GRAHAM, LORD EASDALE (8tb S. xi.
8). — In this gentleman's time his family, as
iocumenta abundantly show, spelt their name with
a final e. The particular genealogy of the Don-
galston Grahams, of whom he was a cadet, can be
found on reference to the Transactions of the
Glasgow Archaeological Society some years back.
The general Dougalston descent will be found
in Burke's ' Landed Gentry ' under the name of
Graham-Campbell of Shirvan.
At present I cannot remember whom Lord Eas-
dale married, but I think I am right in saying that
he left no son, and that his only daughter married
William Mure of Caldwell, M.P. for the county of
Renfrew.
The tomb of Lord Easdale is, or not a long time
ago was, to be seen in the churchyard of Old
Greyfriars, Edinburgh. JAMES GBAHAME.
"BRANG" (8<* S. xi. 227). — Surely the
' N. E. D.' must have come an awful cropper
over this word. The word is krang, kreng, crang,
Dutch kreng = carcase. Webster gives several
other words connected with the whale fishery.
THOMAS J. JEAKES.
Is this word correct ? The word familiar to me
in this connexion is krang or kreng, which is
apparently a Danish word. C. E. HAINES.
Uppingham.
*
SHELTA (8tb S. x. 434, 521 ; xi. 155).— When I
wrote my first reply to MR. SAMPSON I had not at
hand the Journal of the Gipsy- Lore Society, and
was, therefore, obliged to take upon my own
shoulders the responsibility for the errors of which
he accused me, although I felt almost sure that, as
had picked up practically all I knew of Shelta
from the pages of that noble magazine, the bad
must have been derived from it along with the
good. During the early part of this year I have
had time to hunt the matter up ; but although the
result exceeded my anticipations, I should not have
thought it worth while to prolong the corre-
spondence by writing a second edition of my
defence had not MR. SAMPSON forced me to do so
by his second criticism. It is a not unfitting
retribution that, like his Scriptural prototype, in
pulling down the house of the Philistine he should
involve himself in the ruin ; for, as much to my
astonishment as it will be to the readers of his
denunciation of my " innocence of any knowledge
of Shelta," I find that it was from his own article
n the second volume of the Journal that I acquired
every one of my evil ways. From him I learned
to call Shelta a " dialect " (p. 209 ; Leland and
Urofton have committed the same crime, so that
we make a quartet of ignoramuses), and from him
[learned to use the terms "cant" and "slang
without discrimination (see in especial his comments
on the word " rum," p. 217). These I still con-
ider non-essentials, but MR. SAMPSON also led me
astray in my principal point — that of the existence
beside ' deep" Shelta of "English" Shelta
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NOTES AND QUERIES. [8"s.xi.Armio,'9?.
(p. 213). The latter admirable expression is bis
own coinage ; and after finding grouped under it
by him such words as graft (craft), gratch (watch),
greddycoat (petticoat), I may be pardoned for
putting down mizzard, &c., under the same. " No
very precise line of demarcation can be drawn
between this and Shelta proper," says MR. SAMP-
SON (p. 208).
Seriously, no one has a greater respect for MR.
SAMPSON or the work he has done than I have, and
it is a little hard that, after doing my best to follow
in his footsteps, I should be rewarded only "with a
kick. JAS. PL ATT, Jun.
GILLMAN OR OILMAN FAMILY (8th S. xi. 222). —
I have a number of books bought by my father at
the auction sale, circa 1864, of the effects, at his
residence in Montpelier Row, Twickenham, of the
late Mr. William Gillman, formerly private secre-
tary to Queen Adelaide. One of these is ' Some
Recollections of the Last Days of His late Majesty
King William the Fourth/ Hatchard, 1837. It is
signed and dated " J. R. W., Bushey House,
July 14th, 1837," and inscribed on the inside of
the front fly-leaf, " W. Gillman, Esq., with the
kind regards of J. R. W., Marlborough House,
Jan. 30, 1840." At pp. 18-20 a Mr. Wood
is mentioned, apparently chaplain. Was this
" J. R. W."? THOMAS J. JEAKES.
It is interesting to see how the alleged Welsh
descent of this family now crumbles away at the
hands of an expert. Knowing nothing of Welsh
pedigrees, I abstained from meddling with them in
my review of the history of this family in the
current number of the Genealogist ; but I think I
have there shown that the name is not Welsh, and
that the family came from Surrey.
WALTER RYE.
Frognal House, Hampstead.
EAGLES CAPTURED AT WATERLOO (8th S. xi. 27,
89, 194). — A graphic description of the capture of
the eagle and standard of the 105th French In-
fantry of the Line by Capt. Clark-Kennedy, of the
Royal Dragoons, is to be found in Siborne's ' Water-
loo Campaign.' Capt. Clark, as he was then
named, cut down the French standard-bearer, and
was proceeding to cut off the eagle from the
standard, when Corporal Stiles, who was riding
behind him, exclaimed, " Oh ! don't do that, sir,
you will spoil it ! " Capt. Clark then handed the
eagle and standard to Corporal Stiles, remarking
to him, "Mind, it is mine," and ordered him to
convey it out of action. I quote from memory, as
I have not got Siborne's book to refer to. Corporal
Stiles was afterwards given a commission, and Capt.
Clark, who was slightly wounded, afterwards served
in the Scots Greys as Capt. Clark- Kennedy. The
eagle and standard are now, I believe, in Chelsea
Hospital, and Sir Arthur Clifton had in his pos-
session a receipt for them. Sir Arthur Clifton was
in command of the Royals at Waterloo, and when
the regiment was at Brighton in 1866, that receipt
was framed and hung up in his house, and he pro-
mised Col. Wardlaw, then commanding the regi-
ment, to give it to the regiment at his death. The
gallant old general died about two years after, and
the regiment tried to get possession of the docu-
ment ; but it seems to have been mislaid, though
doubtless it may be found in the possession of his
descendants. It may be interesting to mention
that in the year 1862 the original Parade States for
June 19, 1815, of the Royals, the Greys, and the
Inniskillings were found at the bottom of an
orderly-room chest of the Royals when they were
in Dublin that year. These had been sent in to
Sir A. Clifton, as senior colonel of " the Union
Brigade," the morning after the great battle.
Those of the Greys and Inniskillings were sent to
their respective regiments, and that of the Royala
is now one of the valued treasures of the ante-room
of the officers' mess. The gallant Greys of course
captured the eagle of the 45th French Regiment,
and if an infantry regiment could lay claim to the
proud distinction I think we should have heard of
it ere this, though I recollect that it was reported
that three eagles were taken at Waterloo, the third
by an infantry regiment. ARTHUR MESHAM,
late Captain Royal Dragoons.
RED, WHITE, BLUE (8th S. x. 294).— The song
' The Red, White, and Blue,' which we sang in
Crimean days, was in honour of Britannia, and re-
joiced in the co-operation of our redcoats and blue-
jackets, white being common to both in various
ways. Britannia's banners are
Borne by the Red, White, and Blue,
her flag is
The boast of the Bed, White, and Blue,
and, finally,
May both to their colours prove true,
The Army and Navy for ever,
Three cheers for the Bed. White, and Blue,
There is no direct mention of the colours of our
own flag still less any reference to their similarity
to those of the French flag.
But why should the adoption by Russia of the
same three colours present difficulties not felt in
the case of France ? All depends on how the
colours are displayed ; and though other countries
may have the same arrangement of our national
anthem, none is likely to adopt our arrangement
of our national flag. Indeed, considering the
difficulties that it presents to many of us, it would
be unwise to attempt it. D. mentions St. Andrew's
cross as borne on the Russian flag. This charge is
so often omitted in delineations of our own flag
that the fact of the feature being common to both
may well escape observation. KILLIGREW.
Cairo.
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297
THE LONGEST WORDS IN THE ENGLISH LAN-
GUAGE (8tb S. xi. 204). — The quotation from a news-
paper of 1894 in the ' New English Dictionary/
under the word "Disproportionableness," to the
effect that " a correspondent has submitted the word
' disproportion ableness' as the longest in the English
language," has awakened the interest of persons
fond of such statistics. One of these submits that
" anthropomorphologically," which is quoted from
a theological work of 1850, has two letters more,
and is the longest word that has as yet appeared in
the ' Dictionary. ' He thinks that it will hold the
*' record " for some time to come, at least. This,
of course, does not reckon names of chemical com-
pounds and their derivatives, such as " trioxy-
methylanthraquinonic "or " dichlorhydroquinone-
disulphonic/' which outstrip all reckoning.
J. A. H. MURRAY.
SCOTT'S 'OLD MORTALITY' (8th S. xi. 169, 255)'
-It was not " at Bankhill, near Lockerby," that
Robert Paterson died, but at Bankend, Caerlave-
rock, some seven miles from Dumfries. W. S.
PUR- BLIND (8th S. xi. 66). — Your correspondent
may be interested to know that pur appears twice
in Wright's ' Vocabularies,' ed. by K. P. Wiilcker,
1884. Archbishop Alfric's 'Vocabulary* of the
tenth century has, col. 116, 1. 41 : " Bicoca,
haeferblaete, uel pur"; and an Anglo-Saxon
1 Vocabulary ' of the eleventh century has, col. 285,
I. 10: " OnagratuluSf raradumbla, j?aet his pur."
Onocratarum is given col. 460, 1. 19, and glossed
faredumle. Wiilcker in a note explains "for
mocrotalus, a bittern." Col. 195, 1. 27, however,
las : "Buban, raredumle." Buban Wiilcker con-
liders an error for bubo or bubonem. There seems
*> be some doubt, therefore, as to whether pur
neans a bittern. Toller's edition of Bosworth's
Anglo-Saxon Dictionary' has pur, and quotes
rom the ' Vocabularies ' as above for the use of
>wr, adding: "Pwr«, two sea-birds, the tern
nd the black- headed gull ; pirre-, pyr-maw, a sea
ird, E.D.S. publ., 'Antrim and Down Glossary.'"
'oiler explains pur as a bittern, but puts a query
fter the latter word. Prof. Skeat agrees with
our correspondent as to the derivation of purblind.
'or the early use of pure as an adverb we may
am pare : " Natheless there is gode Londe in
place ; but it is pure litille, as men seyn "
The Voiage and Travaile' of Sir John Maundeville,
ri. p. 130, ed. by J. 0. Halliwell, 1866).
Wedgwood's ' Dictionary ' compares Du. puur,
ire, simple, only ; puursteken, altogether ; puur-
eken blind, altogether blind ; Sw. dial, purblind,
Dutch we have a word kippig for purblind, but
it is not certain that the word is derived from
kip — fowl, hen. Cf. Franck, ' Etymologisch
Woordenboek.' A. E. H. SWAEN.
Almeloo.
. JOHN ANDRE* (8tft S. xi. 8, 56, 192, 238).—
Winthrop Sargent, in his 'Life of Major John
Andre*,' says his father
" had his dwelling and his place of business under one
roof in Warnford Court, Throgmorton Street. He later
removed his household to a country seat at Clapton,
called the Manor House. This building, now used for a
school, is still standing opposite to Brook House, Clapton
Gate, and the graves of several of its former occupants
are to be seen in Hackney Churchyard, hard by the old
Tower."
John Andre's father died at the house in Clapton,
April, 1769. M. D. B. D.
Some interesting particulars of the latter end of
Andre*, in part gleaned from the lips of the land-
lord of the place of his confinement at Old Tappan,
are given in one (L. iv,) of a series of 'Original
Letters, descriptive of a Natural History Tour in
North America,' by T. W., in Loudon's Magazine
of Natural History for March, 1831, vol. iv.
No. 18, pp. 112-114. The letter is dated "Hud-
son River, May, 1823," and a sketch of Andrews
last resting-place is given — a wild spot, amidst
bare, rocky hills, interspersed with trees — the
grave itself shadowed by a willow ; a note is
appended, to the effect that Andre's remains "were
lately " transferred to Westminster Abbey.
THOMAS J. JEAKES.
EARLY STEAM NAVIGATION (8tto S. xi. 88, 150).
— In the ' Life of Robert Fulton and a History of
Steam Navigation,' by Thomas W. Knox (N.Y.,
Putnams, 1886), there is a print of the Savannah
and an account of the trip to England : —
" The Savannah was of three hundred and eighty tons
burthen, built aa a sailing packet, but bought when
launched and fitted up as a steamer. She was fitted
with engines and machinery for working a pair of paddle-
wheels, so constructed that they could be shipped or
unshipped at pleasure, and carried seventy-five tons of
coal and twenty-five cords of wood."
S. C. H.
Burlington, Vermont.
The Americans claim the Savannah to have been
the first steamboat that crossed the Atlantic in
'tally blind.
F. C. BIRKBECK TERRY.
Pur is given in Clark Hall's 'Concise Anglo-
axon Dictionary ' from Wright- Wiilker, 116, 41,
interpreted by "bittern? sea-gull?" Pur-
tnd is also given, but merely from Kluge. In
the year 1819, but there is every reason to believe
that she was a full-rigged sailing ship fitted with
a steam appliance, used only as an auxiliary. At
the last reference the operation of removing the
paddle-wheels is said to have occupied half an
hour, and in a recent number of the New York
Times the paddle-wheels were described as being
" stowed on deck during a storm or at other times
for fear of having them washed away/' certainly a
unique proceeding. In Haydn's 'Dictionary of
Dates/ from the first edition, the entry under the
298
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head of " Steam Engine " has read " The Savannah,
mer"; bat in the twentieth and last edition it
been altered to "The Savannah, aided by
BL" The same publication also gives '' Rising
San, a steamer bailt by Lord Cochrane, crossed
the Atlantic, 1818." C*n any correspondent refer
me to an account of this vessel ?
BTMRARD HOME COLEMA>*.
71, Brecknock Road.
EDWARD SCTTON, EARL DTTDLET (8"1 S. xi.
348).— See G. E. C.'s * Complete Peerage/ voL iii.
183, and Burke's * Extinct Peerage ' (1883), p. 521.
G. F. K. B.
GHOST-NAMES (8* S. xL 64, 134, 233).— In
September, 1862, Prince Ion Ghica — afterwards
for some years Roumanian Minister in London —
broaght his eldest son Demetrius to be educated
in England, and placed him at Wellington College
under my care. At Wellington every boy has a
separate cubicle, over the door of which are painted
the boy's name and school number. By some
accident a mistake was made by the painter, and
my pupil's name appeared over his door as CTuca,
instead of Ghica. There was a man engaged to
attend to the cricket ground and pavilion, who
came from the neighbouring Tillage of Finchamp-
stead, Berks, and who occasionally went into the
dormitories with bats, balls, &c., belonging to the
eleven. In this way he saw and was much struck
with the unusual name Chica ; and it so took his
fancy that he thought it would be a beautiful name
for a girl He pronounced the word with the t
short, Chica, although, of coarse, my pupil's name
is always pronounced as if it were spelled Gheeka.
Not long after, this man's wife presented him with
a daughter, and he did not fatt to carry oat his
intention, to the great astonishment of the officiating
clergyman. A copy of the baptismal register lies
before me as I write : —
tc •
1 1865, April 2. Chicca Emily, da. of Abraham and
Eleanor Spratley, Finchampstead, Labourer. Rich* T.
Llewellin."
Mr. Llewellin, the then curate of Finchampstead,
entered the name with a phonetic spelling, and
naturally made inquiry as to its origin. From
him the story which I have told above came through
the Rev. Thomas Mozley, who then lived at
Finchampstead, to Abp. Benson, then head master
of Wellington College, and he told me.
C. W.
Wokingham.
* EARLY COPYING MACHINE (8th S. xi. 226).
— A still earlier machine is mentioned in Pastor
Moritz*3 account of his * Travels in England in
176 He says (p. 29 of Casaell's National
Library edition) : —
^1 saw for the first time, at Mr. Wendeborn's, a very
"l machine, which is little known in Germany, or at
not much used. This is a preaa in which, by mean
of very strong iron spring?, a written paper may be
printed on another blank paper, and you thus save year-
self the trouble of copying, and ac the same time
multiply your own handwriting. Mr. Wendeborn makes
use of thia machine every time he sends manuscr
abroad, of which he wishes to keep a copy. T
machine was of mahogany, and cost pretty higl
The kX. E. D.,' s. r. "Copying," says that a
copying machine was first patented in 1780 by
James Watt. This, presumably, was the machine
used by the careful Mr. Wendeborn.
G. L. AppERSoy.
The machine was evidently the old device of
placing a sheet of carbonized paper between the
sheet written on and that intended for the cor
A plate of japanned iron used to be placed under-
neath the second sheet to secure the requisite
resistance. The " manifold writer " still, I believe,
in use was an improvement on the above.
E. RlMBAULT DlBDIN.
CAGOTS (8* S. xi. 28).— Among the ' Notices to
Correspondents ' in ' N. & Q.,' 4tn S. viii. 522, the
following reply is given, which, from the references
famished, I cannot do better than quote in its
entirety : —
" Some account of the Cagota will be found in Derwent
Con way's * Travels in the Pyrenees ' (• Constable's Mis-
cellany,' vol. Lrvii.); Mr. Grattan's novel, 'The Gag
Hut' ('Parlour Library'); Magtui* Pittoresqiu for
1834 and 1840; and «N. & Q.,' 1« S. iv. 190, 331. cr
v. 428, 493."
The REV. THOMAS W. WEBB, M.A., of Hardwick
Vicarage, Hay, South Wales (4tt S. ix. 129),
offered to give further information on this curious
subject on receipt of a line from the querist.
EVERABD HOME
71, Brecknock Road.
"HANDICAP" (8tt S. xi. 247, 270).— The two
passages from G. Daniel to which DB. MURRAY
makes reference, and one of which he quotes, may
seem to explain each other, if placed side by side.
1. Trinarchodia, ' Henry V.,' st 98 :—
The Treasurer (how double is his curse 1
Hee bore the Bagge betray'd him !) for a Price
Mercates his Maister, to extend his Purse :
And handy-cappes some Crownes.
2. 'IdylVii. 120:—
Even those who now command
The inexorable Roman, were buc what
One Step had given : Handy-Capps in Fate.
This second passage will be made the clearer if
after " command " we insert a comma, understand-
ing, " Even those who now have the master
viz., " the inexorable Roman." Xow the meaning
of the first passage can scarcely be mistaken. He
is speaking (with allusion, of coarse, to Judas
Iscariot) of the conspirators who plotted against
Henry V. immediately before his invasion of
France. Their story is best known through Eenr i
speech (Shakspeare, « Henry V.,' II. ii.), " The
NOTES AND QUERIES.
299
mercy that was quick in us of late/' &c., where we
may well remark these words : —
And this man
Hath for afev light crovm lightly conspired,
And sworn unto the Practices of Prance.
So Daniel's words, " handicaps eome crowns,"
must certainly mean, he puts his hand in the cap
to draw a lot, he stands to win or lose, and wins
by the handicap process a few crowns.
Thence it will be fairly easy to explain the
passage of the ' Idyl.' The Romans hare beaten
Hannibal, but they are only " Handicaps in Fate,"
winners by luck ; their victory is a case of handi-
cap, they have but drawn the winning lot, not
conquered through greater virtue.
Daniel's use of " handicap " as a verb seems to
show that the phrase in his time must have been
I in common usage. It is strange, therefore, that
I DR. MURRAY has no other example except that of
Pepys from the seventeenth century.
C. B. MOUST.
Oxford.
THE DEATH OF Miss ROSA BATHTJBST (8tt S*
xi. 266).— *N. & Q.' is nothing if not strictly
accurate in its facts. My old friend MR. PICK-
1 FORD will forgive me for stating that Bishop
Bathurst of Norwich died, not in 1834, but
3 April, 1837. E. WALFOKD.
Ventnor.
NOTES ON BOOKS, &c.
itical Study of S*ttifea,tio* in South Carolina.
By David Franklin Houston, A.M. (Longmans & Co.)
THIS is the third volume of the series of the " Harvard
Historical Studies." It is one of the best monographs
on any single political complication occurring in recent
days which we remember to have seen. We trust it may
be widely read and carefully pondered over in this
country. There are far more Englishmen at the present
time who take an intelligent interest in the history of
the United States than there were before the secessionist
war ; bat we doubt if we have many readers who could
give a clear statement of what was the exact meaning in
South Carolina politics of the word "nullification.''
People blessed with good memories which extend back
to the thirties will call to mind that the word often
occurred in our newspapers. The nullification dispute,
which very nearly led to civil war, was a question
of protection vernu free trade. The inhabitants of the
rtbern State* were then, as they are now, a manu-
facturing people, and they imagined that it was to their
interest to levy heavy protective duties on those foreign
products which could compete with theirs. South Carolina
was almost entirely agricultural, and these heavy taxes
on imports had long been felt to be a crying injustice.
There was, however, a far stronger motive behind. At
the time when the American union was formed no clear
definition was formulated regarding the relations of the
several states to the central government at Washington.
That the states were not bound to the central authority
in the way that Scotland and Wales are to England was
admitted by all American statesmen ; but the views of
the moat eminent among them were widely divergent one
from another. There was no inconsiderable body among
Southern politicians who held that each state was a
sovereign unit, and might cut itself loose from the
central authority at pleasure. There cannot be much
doubt that had it not been for the tact and firmness of
President Jackson the nullifiers would, in the thirties,
have driven South Carolina into secession. Had such a
catastrophe occurred at that time it is useless to specu-
late on what would have been the result. Though by
a modification of tariffs the danger was tided over for
thirty years, opinions did not change, and the terrible
secession war was the result. Those who are interested
in the history of that bloody conflict will learn much
by a study of Mr. Houston's pages, which show how
long secession had been leavening the Southern mind.
First Steps in a Pedigree and Family Record. By
Spencer A. Woolward. (Stock.)
THIS consists merely of a skeleton form, to be filled in
with names, births, deaths, ages, inc., and we think that
there was scarcely any need for it. Most people who
have any care for family history know that such facts
are necessarily to be set down, and the tables do not go
back beyond the grandparents of the writer who is
supposed to fill up the blanks.
THE Journal of the Ex-LHris Society announces for
10 June the annual meeting of that flourishing society,
with Sir Arthur Vicars, F.8. A., Ulster Kir g of Arms, in
the chair. Mr. Dexter Allen resumes his 'American
Notes.' Among the plates reproduced is one of great
beauty and interest, that of Philip d'Auvergne, Duke of
Bouillon. A full account of this is given by Mr. A. A.
Bethune- Baker.
VERT little is there this month in the FortnigJuly that
can be discussed in pages from which all forms of con*
troveny are supposed to be banished. Mr. Traill's clever
skit, ' Our Learned Philhellenes ' has a delightful literary
flavour, but is as controversial in character as any of the
papers on avowedly political subjects, and ' A German
Poet of Revolt ' implies, by its very title, that the themes
dealt with are likely to breed offence in some quarters.
A curious product of modern influences is Arno Holz,
the poet thus labelled. We are unable to share the
admiration for him expressed by the writer, Mr. Laurie
Magnus, but are doubtless unable to judge in translations
of the merits of poems which we encounter for the first
time. The comparison instituted by Mr. Edward Salmon
in his " 1497-1897 : East and West " does not strike as
as of any very special significance. ' Feminism in France '
is interesting. The movement so called answers to oar
woman's rights associations. — 'Ronsard and his Ven-
domois,' by M. Jules Jussserand, which appears in the
NiMUenik Century, has an admirable literary flavour,
such as is to be expected from one of the best French
antiquaries and writers. A picturesque account is given
of that district by the Loir which shares in the claim
to be the garden of France. It is interesting to read
once more of the experiences of Ronsard with ghosts
which are still supposed to haunt the cave dwellings and
their neigbourhood. These uncanny creature?, as Ron-
sard alleges, treat him with uncomfortable
M. Juaserand compares Ronsard with La
Burns. The entire article is a model in its way.
pleasant paper is that of Mr. Sparrow on • Goethe as a
Stage Manager.' In this the defence of Goethe against
portions of the arraignment of George Henry Lewes is
undertaken with much zeal and conducted with some
asperity. Lewes was, Mr. Sparrow holds, " the victim
of ludicrous theories on the drama," and inconvenient
facts would obtrude themselves oddly in " his whimsical,
restless mind." Sir Algernon We»t depicts 'Social
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Changes during the Queen's Reign.' How marvellous
are these is, of course, known to every observer, I\
gives a curious idea of advance to find that while in 1837
eighty thousand letters were posted, the numbers now
annually sent reach two hundred millions. The views
expressed are, on the whole, consoling. There is much
concerning the eternal feminine. Mr. Whibley writes
strongly on * The Encroachment of Women,' and there is
much debate as to ' How Poor Ladies Live.'—' A Friend
of Kings ' is the title, not too well chosen, of a spirited
account, in the New, of the Prince de Ligne, a very
interesting and, in a sense, important personage. Mr.
C. F. Keary continues hia ' Phantasies/ which are cer-
tainly more fantastic than ever. The Rev. E. T. Brown
supplies a readable causerie on Spenser. Is it, however,
a fact that the sceptre of the ' Faerie Queen ' is barren,
and that her empire is an empire of make-believe 1 It is
very probable that the modern journalist, and perhaps
the university prizeman, may not read Spenser; but
in the country there are hundreds who do, and a man who
knew nothing of the poem could have little claim to the
position of an English scholar. We are not sharers in the
pessimistic views on such subjects that prevail, and we
hold that the number of those who not only read, but
can quote Spenser is greatly in excess of what is generally
supposed. — The Century is largely occupied with Ame-
rican subjects, and especially with General Grant, of
whom there are one or two good portraits, and whose
campaigning and whose tomb are both depicted. ' Old
Georgetown ' has an agreeable antiquarian flavour, and
has many pleasing pictures of bygone beauties. A con-
siderable class of general readers will be interested
in the pictures of 'Wheeling in Tyrolean Valleys.' 'A
New American Sculptor' brings to general knowledge
George Grey Barnard, a man of remarkable gifts and
powers. ' New Conditions in Central Africa ' repays atten-
tion. Two newly discovered portraits of Jeanne d'Arc are
given. One of these portraits at least presents the maid
in sufficiently formidable guise. — Scrilner's gives an
essay of Mr. Cosmo Monkhouse on 'Mr. William Quiller
Orcbardson, R.A.,' with reproductions of many of the
artist's works, including a sketch for the famous ' Queen
of the Swords,' and an engraving of the very charming
and less -known 'Farmer's Daughter.' 'The Art of
Travel' has some spirited illustrations of scenes of
ocean journeys. Part III. of ' London as seen by C. D.
Gibson ' depicts our parks. ' Odysseus and Trelawny '
has, among other designs, a striking portrait of the
would-be bandit Edward John Trelawny. 'Bird
Pictures' and 'A Roman Easter' may both be com-
mended to attention. — The frontispiece to the Pall Mall
consists of a pretty view on Oulton Broad. Lady New-
ton sends some interesting facsimile reproductions of a
' Caxton Missale.' ' Levens Hall,' a charmingly pictur-
esque spot, is illustrated from photographs and described
by Mrs. Bagot (of Levens). A good account is given of
Honiton and its lace. Part II. appears of the ' Major
Tactics of Chess.' There is an excellent illustration of
'Trout Fishing.' The comic illustrations constitute a
well-known and acceptable feature. — In Temple Bar an
article on ' Prospects of Literature ' holds that there is a
distinct degradation of tone in the modern novel. ' An
Ideal Lady Letter Writer ' deals with Mrs. Vigors, with
whose epistolary productions we have less familiarity
than we ought to possess. ' The Birds of Tennyson ' is a
pleasing piece of literary criticism. — Mr. Leslie Stephen
gives, in the Cornhill, 'The Story of Scott's Ruin,'
putting that matter in an entirely new light. Sir Edward
Stracbey has some valuable ' Recollections of Frederick
Denison Maurice.' 'Pages from a Private Diary,'
remain amusing. — Edward Lear's 'Leaf from the Journal
of a Landscape Painter,' which appears in Macmillan's,
gives gome edifying records of the extortions to which
travellers among the Arabs are exposed. 'Unwritten
Bookg ' deals with works that have been seriously con-
templated, and not with works of fantasy as we anticipated.
There is an important paper on ' The Famine in India.'
—Mr. Schiitz Wilson writes in the Gentleman's on
'Goethe and Weimar.' 'Round Pevensey Marsh' will
interest the antiquary, and 'Kambula's War-Club' the
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has a good plate of Peterborough and others of Pens-
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LONDON, SATURDAY, APRIL 17, 1697.
CONTENT S.— N° 277.
NOTES :— James Field Stanfield, 301— William Blake, 302—
" Half-seal," 303— St. Margaret's Church— Holly Meadows.
304—" Skates": " Scatches "— S and F— The Queen a Pre-
bendary—" Hell is paved," &c. — Knighthoods, 305— Canon
Scott - Hobertson — Commission by King James VII. —
" Broom and Mortar "—Nostrum, 306.
QUERIES :— " Ha'porth of tar "— " Hansardize"— " Cacorne"
— " Joyce on G.P.O."— Carnation— St. Hugh of Lincoln—
— " Vine"=Lead Pencil—" Bostrakize," 307—" Dead rides
Sir Morten," &c.— Dr, Edwardes— George III. Shilling-
Clayton and Deacon — Verse on Christmas Morning —
"Altar Gates"— "Poke," 308— Author Wanted— " Master
William Bennett "— Alger— Authors Wanted, 309.
REPLIES :— " Rarely," 309— Lilies of the Valley at Canter-
bury— Lewisham, 311 — Plough woman — Blanckenhagen —
" Nobody's enemy but his own " — Carrick— Hayne— Cherry
Blossom Festival, 312— "Bob"=an Insect— " Dadle "—
Date of Shakspeare Concordance — Hole House — "Dy-
mocked," 313— Sneezing— Wyvill—" Jack o' the Clock "—
Layman — " Invultation "— Street Inscription, 314— J. G.
Whittier — Peppercorn Rent— Stocqueler, 315—" Hummer
Nick " — Beau Brummel — " Ave Csesar," &c. — Ballad —
Theodosius, 316— Sir M. Costa— " Sones carnall"— John
Woolward — Ardra — Leonardo da Vinci, 317 — " Maligna
Lux"— Church Tower Buttresses — Squire's Coffee-House—
" Alphabet-man" — Moses Horton, 318— Scottish Craftsmen
— Morgan— Authors Wanted, 319.
NOTES ON BOOKS :— ' Dictionary of National Biography '
-' Oxford English Dictionary ' — Bishop of Peterborough's
' Early Renaissance in England.'
Notices to Correspondents.
ftolet*
JAMES FIELD STANPIELD.
Some meagre particulars concerning the above,
who was an Irishman and the author of 'The
Fisherman,' a comic opera performed in 1786, and
never printed, are supplied in the 'Biographia
Dramatica.' As the * Dictionary of National Bio-
graphy ' will shortly deal with his eminent son,
Clarkson Stanfield, R.A., the two following letters,
addressed to James Field Stanfield by Canon Tate,
may have some value. The elder Stanfield took a
part in the abolition of the slave trade (see the
Monthly Review, vols. Ixxix. and Ixxxi. for his
writings en the subject), and was a friend of Clark-
SOD, after whom his son was named. He was for
some years manager of a theatre in Scarborough,
and of a company in the north of York. Allusion
to a daughter who was an actress may be traced
early in the century. Canon Tate writes as follows
to Clarkson Stanfield :—
Wed* Eve 4th Jan", 1832.
Richmond, Yke.
Mr DEAR SIR, — It has occurred to my mind, (and I
might have asked you when in town some three years
and a half ago,) to enquire whether my dear old friend
your father left with you any memoranda of his personal
history, of his family origin as an Irishman, originally
brought up to be a Priest in the R. Catholic church ; of
his once going in a slave ship on a Guinea voyage ; of
his afterwards taking to the stage ; of his literary pur-
suits and connectedly with them his knowledge of the
late Mr. Meadley of Sunder'and and of myself ; of his
residence for a time at Sunderland, &c., and more
especially of his works, not merely his songs, (one in
particular highly admired, the ' Wedding of Balliporeen,')
but of his publications in prose or verse on the slave
trade, and last of all, his * Essay on Biography.' He was
a great man in Freemasonry. Answer me if you can,
all these questions, at your leisure, that I may know
whether there be anything in my power to do towards
giving you the satisfaction of farther knowledge in
respect of the man of genius and talent and learning,
your father, whom I have always been happy to con-
sider as my friend.
I am, dear sir, faithfully yours,
JAMES TATE.
P.S.— What MSS. has he left? What copies of his
own publications') Amongst other books is there Gar*
butt's ' History of Sunderland ' 1
Richmond, Yks., 21 May, 1832,
Mr PEAR SIR,— I am happy to say, that by the kind.
ness of my excellent friend Miss Mary Meadley I have
been able — of course, chiefly by purchase — to make up
a packet of books which I intend to dispatch ere long to
you from Richmond.
1. A copy of Mr. Meadley's ' Life of the Great Dr,
Paley.'
2. A copy of Garbutt's ' History of Sunderland.'
8. A copy of Stanfield's « Guinea Voyage,' 1807.
4. One copy (inscribed) of Stanfield's ' Essay on Bio-
graphy.'
5. Five copies of that * Essay for presents.
Of these books you will naturally preserve Nos. 1, 2,
3, and 4. The copies under No. 5, I confess were pur-
chased, on purpose to give you the high satisfaction of
presenting.. .now and then. ..when a proper occasion
may arise. ..a sufficient proof of the talents and of the
worth of your Father. And now, let me acknowledge
the pleasure which your letter of the 14th has afforded me.
I had no doubt of your appreciating justly the anxiety
with which I have endeavoured to impress upon your
mind the importance due to your Father's memory. My
first beginning of personal acquaintance with him was
in the year 1788 at this very place, and in company with
(my wife's father) Mr. Fielding Wallis. Mr. F. W. and
Mr. Stanfield bad then been for many years acquainted
and much attached to each other, both Irishmen, both
brought up for different and higher pursuits, both on the
stage, and both Freemasons.
Mr. Wallis's eldest daughter was eminent for a time
at Covent Garden in the years 1795 and 1796, &c., and
is now Mrs. Campbell, resident near Portsmouth. Your
poor Father was mightily fond of her, when a most
charming girl some years before that date, and then
much in the North.
Your Father was the author of several comic songs of
most extraordinary merit, one of them, by its name,
may afford a clue to others, 'The Wedding of Bally-
poreen.'
Are you aware that Mr. Stanfield was brought up to
be a Roman Catholic Priest and thnt his very good com-
mand of the Latin lHngu«ge was derived from that cause?
His knowledge of Lord Bacon's ' Philosophy ' was re-
markable for its profoundness at once and its zeal — not
very common in those days; and even now it is more
talked of than perused and understood. Your own name
of Clarkson, I have told you ere now, was given by your
Father from his admiration of that excellent man,
Thomas Clarkson, the great Abolitionist. I told the
fact in this house to T. C. some years ago, when he
called upon me. He was evidently gratified to be
reminded of Mr. Stanfield and of his services in that
noble cause. And that reminds me to tell you that the
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book No. 3 could not be had in a better plight ; you will
easily remedy that defect.
Of the cost of the books herewith announced as being
soon destined to set off for London. ..talk not at pre-
sent. Any consideration of that nature may be settled
hereafter betwixt us.
I am, Dear Sir, most faithfully yours,
JAMES TATE.
P.S. — My designation in the list of subscribers to the
Essay on Biography' — for which I got several sub-
scriptions besides my own — stands thus, "Rev. James
Tate, M.A., late F. Sid. Coll., Richmond" (i.e. late
Fellow of Sidney College, Cambridge — a situation which
I quitted in 1796).
URBAN.
WILLIAM BLAKE.
William Blake, as is well known, illustrated
many books, sometimes engraving his own designs
sometimes engraving those of others. Consider-
ing the prices that are usually charged for books
with Blake's engravings, or with engravings which
are popularly attributed to him, a good catalogue
of them seems most desirable. I should not think
they would be too numerous for space to be found
in ' N. & Q.' It would not be sufficient, however,
merely to indicate those that are undoubtedly by
him, but those that are attributed to and are not
by him should also be indicated, so as to " nail them
to the counter," as Mr. H. B. Wheatley tersely, if
somewhat commercially, has expressed it.
There have been several books published about
Blake which I have consulted, but no proper cata-
logue of his works is to be found in them. The
best is in Gilchrist's ' Life '; and a very poor, in-
accurate, and slipshod performance it is. I fully
expected to find Salzmann's 'Gymnastics' enumer-
ated therein, as for years past the booksellers have
attributed the plates in it to Blake, and in con-
sequence the present price is at 15s.; the original
price was 9s. 6d. in 1800. In proof that the book-
sellers attribute the plates to Blake, I am able to
cite one of the greatest European authorities, Mr.
Bernard Quaritch, in whose gigantic Catalogue for
1887, vol. ii. p. 936, I find Salzmann's * Gym-
nastics ' entered under Blake's name for the illus-
trations. Other booksellers have followed suit.
The * Gymnastics ' was published by J. Johnson,
of St. Paul's Churchyard, who published numer-
ous books illustrated by Wm. Blake. This has ten
illustrations, without name of artist or engraver,
and is "freely translated from the German," and
I may add translated into English so well that it
is not easy to detect the translation. Though the
translator adds many notes and dedicates the book
to Dr. Beddoes ("after a perusal of his valuable
treatise on ' Consumption ' "), he does not give his
name. Is he known ?
Salzmann's ' Elements of Morality ' was trans-
lated by Mrs. Godwin in 1790 ; but she died seven
years after, so could n^t have translated the l Gym-
nastics,' the dedication to which, moreover, is
dated 24 Dec., 1799. I may mention that the
fact of Mrs. Godwin being the translator of the
1 Elements ' was well known at that time, because
in her " Original Stories by Mary Wollstonecraft,
new edition, 1796," the ' Elements ' are advertised
at the end as by her. The illustrations to this book
are designed and engraved by Blake, as stated on
each (see also ' N. & Q.,' 6th S. i. 493). Was it
Blake's practice to sign things he considered worth
acknowledging only ; or had he no rule 1 The great
superiority of these over those attributed to him
(i. e. in the * Gymnastics ') is at once apparent.
The preface to the original German edition of
the ' Gymnastics ' is dated 1793, and we are only
incidentally informed on p. 89 by the translator
that " the name of Salzmann is not in the title-
page of the original of this work, though there is
no doubt of its being written by him."
The book is not a technical one of practical
gymnastics, but more in the style of Combe's * Con-
stitution of Man,' at least so far as my memory
serves me. I think it is admirably written, though
rather too advanced " for the use of schools," as the
title puts it. That part of the title which comes
last better describes the work, " An essay toward
the necessary improvement of education chiefly as
it relates to the body." One great peculiarity is
the spelling of names of countries with a small
letter, a practice I think common enough in other
languages, but which I never noticed before in
English books. It may be attributable to the fact
of its being a translation. On p. 241 we have a
note by the translator which begins, "The old
english archers," &c. On p. 265 we find, " One of
the first physicians in Europe, Frank, who is an
honour to the german nation." There are many
other instances.
I have only read chapter x., "Bathing and
Swimming," with care. It is not only interesting,
but curious, as, for example, to learn that at the
end of the eighteenth century there were people
as dirty as there are at the end of the nineteenth,
who " refrain from bathing " and " carry about "
all their " lives a coat of dirt." " Is not this uni-
versal want of cleanliness, with regard to all parts
that are not immediately exposed to view, intoler*
able ? Does it appear credible that it should exist
in a civilized nation, where it is deemed a disgrace
to wear dirty clothes ? "
This book has ten page engravings which I can-
not ascribe to Blake on hearsay authority, nor that
of Mr. Quaritch, and therefore ask the favour of
4 N. & Q.' to help me in ascertaining the fact.
Though not in the catalogue of books illustrated
by Blake in Gilchrist's * Life,' two others are, with
somewhat similar engravings, undoubtedly by
Blake, viz., Hayley's 'Ballads,' 1805, and J. G.
Stedman's ' Surinam,' 1796, both also published
by J. Johnson. Gilchrist says that Blake did the
negroes and monkeys in the last book.
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
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I
I have examined duplicates or early proofs of
the engravings in the ' Gymnastics ' which are pre-
served in the Print-Room, British Museum, under
Blake's name. Some of them are reversed ; they
are all anonymous. Here I got into so much
doubt and difficulty that I was obliged to bring
an expert to my rescue, Mr. Percy Thomas, who
at once said that the figures in Salzmann's ' Gym-
nastics ' are the work of a woman and not a man.
This is, indeed, abundantly apparent when it is
pointed out. He is of opinion that the landscape
or background is by another hand. The prints in
the Print-Room he thinks are the originals ; they
are slightly better than those in the * Gymnastics,'
which are inferior in every respect, being, in fact,
copies; the drawing is weak and the engraving
hard and mechanical.
The loose prints in the Print-Room are crisp and
spirited compared with those in the book, though
occasionally exhibiting the usual absurdities artists
treat us to — as, for example, a plate (No. 9, p. 314,
in the * Gymnastics ') in which a boy is flying a
kite in such an impossible position that it is quite
incomprehensible how even a woman could have
drawn it so, to say nothing of a man engraving it.
I shall be much obliged if any collector of Blake's
works would investigate this matter, and let us
know the result. The conclusion that I draw is
that the plates in the 'Gymnastics' are not the
work, either drawing or engraving, of Wm. Blake.
Are there any illustrations in the German edition ;
and are they copied from them ? What could the
prints of the same subjects in the Print- Room have
been done for ; some being reversed indicate a
previous impression or distinct plate.
I must leave the question of whether booksellers
have a right in future to charge a Blake price for
the ( Gymnastics ' to those who want to buy it.
One would like to know on what authority en-
gravings not signed by nor bearing any trace of
Blake's style are attributed to him ; I lay no stress
on the fact of their not being included in Gil-
christ's catalogue. If they can be proved to be by
Blake, which I do not believe, that would show to
what a low state a clever man can get when he has
to work against time for money.
RALPH THOMAS.
'HALF-SEAL." — Dr. Murray, the editor of the
1 Oxford English Dictionary,' applied, a little while
ago, to the Public Record Office for information
about the word half-seal. A possible explanation
of the term is given here, as Dr. Murray has asked
for a note in print to which to refer.
The best clue to the meaning seemed to be
in the Act 8 Eliz., c. 5, in which it is provided
that commissions to Delegates for hearing Ad-
miralty appeals are to be under the half-seal.
This Act remained in force until the year 1832.
It followed, therefore, that if any such com-
missions, with seal attached, could be discovered,
the Chancery interpretation of the word half-seal
would be ascertained. Commissions are plentiful;
but the earliest seals have disappeared. Some
of the seals of the reigns of George III. and
George IV., however, remain. These do not bear
out the common supposition that less than one
whole surface of the seal was impressed on the
wax. They have been compared with other im-
pressions of the Great Seal used for other purposes,
and do not differ in size. At the beginning of
the nineteenth century, therefore, the half-seal
mentioned in the Act must have been interpreted
to mean a seal which included the whole circum-
ference of the Great Seal.
From the earliest times the Great Seal of Eng-
land had an obverse and a reverse, the obverse
being often called the seal, the reverse the counter-
seal. The obverse side is described by engravers
of seals as " appearing upwards," the reverse side
as " appearing downwards " (Wyon's * Great Seals
of England,' p. 128). This brings us to the medi-
aeval expression, "Sub pede sigilli." Certain
commissions issued sub pede sigilli ; and it was a
common practice to authenticate copies or extracts
under the foot of the seal of the Court from which
they came. It may be strongly suspected that pes
sigilli is mediaeval Latin for the reverse, or down-
ward side of a seal. The reverse is also half of
the two impressions to be obtained from a seal
having both obverse and reverse. To explain
" under the half-seal " as meaning under the reverse
half of the seal, or under the counter-seal, would
thus appear to be not unreasonable.
On all the seals that I have seen attached to
commissions appointing Delegates to hear Admi-
ralty appeals, the reverse side of the Great Seal is
very clearly impressed. The obverse side has
been impressed also ; but, in all the instances that
I have seen, less clearly. I think it is not impro-
bable that the sealers first of all impressed the
reverse, which was essential, and then, in a per*
functory sort of manner, the obverse, which, of
course, could not do any harm. In impressions of
the Great Seal attached to appointments of great
officers of state both sides of the seal are very
clearly brought out. On the whole, therefore, in
the absence of further evidence, I should be dis-
posed to identify half-seal with counter-seal, and
with pes sigilli, as the " downward " side of a seal.
In confirmation of this suggestion, Dr. Murray
has recently ascertained from Giry's * Manuel de
Diplomatique ' that instruments issuing from the
Pontifical Chancery between the time of election
and consecration were sealed with a half-bull
(demi-bullc), so called because there was only one
impression, " celle oil e"taient figure's les ap6tres."
This shows a common practice both in the Papal
and in the English Chancery ; but whether the
Apostles1 side of the PapaTseal is the obverse or
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the reverse perhaps only Papal authority could
determine. L. OWEN PIKE.
ST. MARGARET'S CHURCH AND ROBERT LOWE,
LORD SHERBROOKE. — It seems to be within the
eternal fitness of things that the memory of this
"noble type of sturdy manhood" should have a
visible memorial in the vicinity of the Houses of
Parliament, and a particularly happy thought that
it should take the form of a porch to St. Margaret's
Church, which "is as it were a national church
for the use of the House of Commons." It is,
perhaps, just the one thing, if anything were
needed, that he would himself have desired as a
memorial, for it is in every way useful, in addition
to being an ornament to the church where the
deceased statesman was often a worshipper. On
the south wall is the dedicatory inscription, while
on the north wall is a lifelike bust. The inscrip-
tion— an excellent specimen of terse Latinity from
the pen of the late Earl of Selborne, who as a boy
sat on the same benches at Winchester — is as
follows : —
Hanc porticum
In memoriam Robert! Lowe
Vice-Comitis de Sherbrooke
qui summa Reipublicae officise
Vi ingenie consecutua fideliter explevit
et in vicinia Britannic! Senatua comitiis
Patriam favori partium semper praeposuit
Carolina vidua ejua dicavit
A.D, MDCCCXCIV.
Which has been translated : —
This porch
to the memory of Robert Lowe,
Viscount Sherbrooke,
who, by the force of his genius
having attained the highest offices of the State,
faithfully fulfilled them,
and In the neighbouring Senate House
of the British people
always preferred the good of his country
to the favour of party,
is dedicated by Caroline his widow,
A.D. MDOCCXOIV.
On the base of the bust are four Greek words :
'AvSpcta. Manliness, a fearless outspokenness
of what was felt to be right and true.
IToAtTcia. Political wisdom and its con-
sequences, or statesmanship.
Atai/ota. Mental power, the cultivated out-
come of high intellect.
At8ao*KaAt'a. The practical outcome of the
preceding mental and moral qualities.
The bust is the work of a young American
sculptor named Ezekiel, who has his studio at
Rome, the porch itself being designed by Mr.
J. L. Pearson, R.A. The translation here given
of the Greek words upon the bust is that which
appeared in the St. Margaret's Parish Magazine
at the time the porch was opened. The whole
memorial is in every way a fitting tribute to Lord
Sherbrooke, of whom one of his friends, the Hon.
Mrs. Norton, said she thought it was " as good for
the mind to be with Robert Lowe as for the lungs
to walk among the pines."
W. E. HARLAND-OXLEY.
14, Artillery Buildings, Victoria Street.
HOLLY MEADOWS. (See 8th S. i. 431, 462.)-
At the close of the seventeenth century the custom
of feeding sheep in winter on holly leaves had not
died out in Yorkshire. It is described by De la
Pryme in his 'Diary' (Surtees Society), p. 165.
He tells us that the sheep followed the shepherd as
he cut down one holly tree after another for their use.
At the second reference SIR HERBERT MAXWELL
showed why it was necessary for the shepherd to cut
the trees down. " No matter," he said, " what the
age of a holly, so long as the trees are within reach
of being cropped by cattle so long will the leaves on
them remain armed with protective spines, but as
soon as they attain a safe height the leaves become
as smooth as those of a camellia." Sheep could not
eat the prickly leaves of the lower branches. In
South- West Yorkshire a ''hag of hollin" was well
known in the seventeenth century, and perhaps
later. The phrase is forgotten now, but Hunter,
in his 'Hallamshire Glossary,' defines it as "the
holly trees growing upon a portion of ground in
the commons of the manor of Sheffield. The lord
was accustomed to let or sell them by the hag."
The rent paid for each piece of ground was known
as a "hollin rent," and in a document, dated 1624,
which I have read, many persons are described as
paying for hagges of holin, and even taking leases
of such hagges. Hagge is the Icelandic hagit a
pasture.
In the twelfth century a holly pasture seems to
have been known in mediaeval Latin as holina,
and in English as holemede (holly meadow), for in
a fragment of the ' Domesday ' of Ralph de Diceto,
A.D. 1181, the following entry occurs under the
heading of Beauchamp, in Essex : —
" Golstanus et Herueius . j. hollinam pro . xijd.
Robertus filius Alwini holemede pro . xijrf."*
I take it that holina and holemede are here
equivalent terms, though, as the two lines are con-
secutive, it is not easy to understand why the same
word should not have been used in each case. In
1222 there were holly pastures at Hey bridge, in
Essex, for the ' Domesday of St. Paul's ' says : —
" In pratis sunt ibi . xxviij. acre falcabiles efc . xl. acre
in pastura de holin. possunt eese ibi in pastura . xxx.
vacce cum suis tauris et fetibu?, et . v. sues cum suia
verris et fetibus."f
So it seems that in Essex cows and pigs were
sometimes fed on holly, as sheep were in Yorkshire.
According to an old English poem, horses also ate
holly : —
* 'Domesday of St. Paul's' (Camden Society), p. 115.
I have written the abbreviated words at length,
t Ibid., p. 53.
8th S. XI. APRIL 17, '97.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
30o
Lyarde is ane olde horse, and may noght wele drawe,
He salle be putt into the parke holyne for to gnawe.*
In Maigne D'Arnia'a epitome of Ducange the
word ulcea is explained as "locus pascuae," and
the Wright- Wiilcker 'Vocab.,' 324, 29, have "ulcia,
holen." Maigne D'Arnis defines the word huissar-
<wmt as "silva in terram cultam redacta." But
is not the exact meaning a piece of ground from
which the holly trees have been cleared, or, as we
might call it, a holly stubbing ?
There are various local names which indicate
holly pastures, or holly meadows as I have pre-
ferred to call them. We must 'remember that in
former ages it was far more usual for cattle to
feed on the leaves of trees than it is now. Holly,
being an evergreen, provided leaf- food, so to speak,
in winter, when other trees were leafless.
S. 0. ADDT.
" SKATES ": " SCATCHES." — The word "scatches "
is not an uncommon seventeenth century term for
stilts ; cp. Oomenius's ' Janua Linguarum ' (1647),
No. 944. It is a doublet of "skates." But
" scatches " came to us directly from France,
whereas ' ' skates " was a later direct importation
from Holland. " Scatches" is borrowed from the
Picard French escache (now tcache), which is the
same word as the modern French echasse, Old
Central French eschace (also escace), Low Latin
scacia, Germanic type skakja ; cp. Low G. schake, a
leg. See Hatzfeld's 4 French Diet/ (s.v. Echasse)
and Franck's 'Dutch Diet.' (s.v. schaats). The
Du. schaats (a skate) is also borrowed from the
same Fr. escache, the representation of the Picard
ch by a Du. ts being quite regular ; cp. Du. Icaats,
a derivative from Picard cacher (our catch), which
is the same word as the Central Fr. chasser. Our
word " skates " is borrowed from the Du. schaats,
mistaken in England for a plural, hence the
improper singular " skate." A. L. MATHEW.
Oxford.
S AND F. — There are not on the whole very
many cases where s and / can be confused in old
printing ; but when the mistake is possible it is so
often made that I will venture a few words on the
subject. The very fact that the word, and there
fore the letter, is generally obvious, has prevented
many of us from really knowing the difference
between the two : thus when a doubtful case does
occur we are at a loss ; and however unlikely a
mistake may seem, it is always better, in the case
f a word new to us, to consider its possibility.
The main difference between the two is in the
cross-bar, which in the/ projects on both sides oi
the letter, but in the s on the left only — the
reader's left ; and further, its upper junction with
the letter is not a right angle, but a curve ; it is
' Reliq. Antiquae,' ed. Wright and Halliwell, ii. 280.
1 French houx, hous, yeuse, and essart, a stubbing, a
piece of cleared ground.
therefore not strictly a cross-bar at all. If the
Hinting is deficient, as it may be, and we are still
uncertain, the best way is to find undoubted s's
and/'s as near as we can, and compare them : we
shall find other slight differences in the letters
quite perceptible to a careful examination. And
in a matter of this kind nothing is more useful
ban a strong magnifying-glass. After half an hour's
attention to the point, we shall find, supposing our
ye to be naturally accurate or to be at all suscep-
tible of training, that a mistake will become
almost or quite impossible to us.
C. F. S. WARREN, M.A.
Longford, Coventry.
THE QUEEN A PREBENDARY OP ST. DAVID'S.
— From an article on St. David's in the Queen of
20 March, 1897, the following cutting is taken.
The curious fact that a woman, albeit the greatest
in the land, holds a cathedral stall is certainly
worth notice : —
" The latest Royal pilgrims were the Duke and Duchess
of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha. The Duke took his place in
the Cathedral as son of the senior prebendary, for thia
honourable title belongs to Her Gracious Majesty, who
has been one of the prebendaries of St. David's Cathe-
dral for the last sixty years, possessing one of the stalls
in the choir, and all rights appertaining to the same.
The case is unique, not only in this our country, but, we
believe, in any kingdom ; therefore it is fitting that
attention should be called to the fact during this great
commemorative year, when the nation rejoices Dean
Allen will be ninety-five this year, and was ordained
priest two years before the accession of Her Gracious
Majesty, so that he had completed his tale of sixty years'
arduous and honourable toil before his retirement in
September, 1895, though he cannot compete as to the
honour of being the ' senior prebendary ' of St. David's
Cathedral."
Unfortunately the article is unsigned.
S. L. PETTY.
Ulverston.
[See 8'h S, x. 14, 54, 104.]
"HELL is PAVED WITH GOOD INTENTIONS."
(See I8' S. ii. 86, 140 ; vi. 528 ; 4th S. ix. 260.)—
In his ' Arsene Guillot,' Prosper Merime'e writes t
"Le Portugais dit fort e'le'gamment : ' De boas
inten^oes esta o inferno cheio': L'enfer est pave*
de bonnes intentions." So far as I know, this
saying is nowhere such a household word as in
England. That this should be so is somewhat
remarkable, if it is of Portuguese origin. Is it a
literary quotation ? HENRY ATTWELL.
Barnes.
KNIGHTHOODS. — It seems to me a very curious
fact that there is no work dealing with knights of
past and present times, a work similar, in fact, to
Burke's * Extinct Baronetcies/ A very large
number of interesting and distinguished men have
been from time to time knighted, but there seems
to be no collective record of them as a class. If
G. E. C. could only be induced to publish a
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NOTES AND QUERIES. [8»8.xi.ApBiLiv»7.
companion work to his admirable ' Complete Peer-
age,' taking in baronetcies and knighthoods, he
would earn the gratitude of a very large class of
students. Unfortunately, the " gratitude " of con-
temporaries and posterity is the chief pay for valu-
able work of this description. W. EGBERTS.
CANON SCOTT-ROBERTSON. (See 8th S. xi. 260.)
— With reference to your paragraph about the late
Canon Scott- Robertson, will you allow me to point
out that the church and parish of St. Martin is
united with that of St. Paul, Canterbury, and
the rector of the joint parishes is the Rev. White
Thompson. Canon C. F. Routledge is one of the
churchwardens of St. Martin's parish — an unusual
instance of a clerical churchwarden — and not rector.
ARTHDR HUSSET.
COMMISSION BY KING JAMES VII. in favour
of Sir John Drummond, of Machany, as Keeper
of Inveraray Castle. — At 8lh S. x. 92 I published
in *N. & Q.' a copy of the warrant in favour of
Sir John Drummond, for transfer of arms from
Edinburgh Castle in 1688. Through the kindness
of the Viscountess of Strathallan, I am now en-
abled, from the original in Strathallan Castle, to
give the commission in favour of Sir John, as
Governor and Keeper of Inveraray Castle, granted
in that eventful year. On the same date as that
of the commission of appointment of Keeper of the
Castle, Sir John Drumtnond was also appointed
Sheriff Principal of the Sheriffdom of Argyle and
Tarbat ; and on 24 October following he was ap-
pointed Lord Lieutenant of the County of Argyle.
These commissions are also preserved at Strathallan
Castle : —
" Jacobus Dei gratia Magnae Britaniae Francise et
Hiherniae Rex, fideique Defenaor; Omnibua probis
hominibus ad quos praesentea literse nostrae pervenerint
salutetn. Sciatis noa nominasae, fecisse, conatituisae et
ordinasae, prout tenore presentium Nominamus, facimua,
constituimueetordinamus, DominumJoannem Drummond
de Machany, equitera, gubernatorem et custodem arcis de
Inveraray, Dando, concedendo et assignando illi, (durante
bene placito n'ro duntaxat) munus et officium Guber-
natoris et custodis dicti Arcis de Inveraray, Cum omni-
bus, dignitatibus, divoriia, casualitatibua,emolumentia,im-
munitatibus et privilegiis quibuscunque, eo attinentibus
aut quocunque modo spectantibus, specialim vero cum
vivariis de Inveraray omnibueque partibua, pendiculis
domibus et sedificiis, hortia et earundem p'tinen ; Cum
molendino de Carlinden, ac feudefirmis, opidi de In-
veraray, piacariia de parten, flouick et duuloch cum
servitiis et vectationibua antea per vasaallos tenentes et
incolse parochiae de Inverarray, in vicecomitatu de Argyle
jacen, nuperrimo Comiti de Argyle praestari solitop,
una cum decimis tarn rectoriis quam vicariis eorund
viyariorum, cum onere decimarum divoriarum, inde
miniatro verbi dei, apud Inveraray debit. Et noa eiadem
relevan, et solven nobis, suminam decem mercarum
monetac Scotiae annuatim ad feat Pentes si petatur tant',
Nobis per vici-comitem de Strathallan, antea pro iisdem
solvi solit, cum plaenaria admodum potentate et authori-
tate ei eodem munere et officio et omnibus supra men-
tionatia eisdem spectan tarn plaene et libere in omnibus
respectibus et conditionibus utcndi, ezercendi et fruoridi
quam quicunque alius gubernator et custos cujusvis aliua
arcia aut praesidii iisdem gaudent sou gaudere poterant
specialem vero modicia proficuis et beneticio cauponii in
dicta arce, tarn plaene, adeoque libere in omnibua re-
spectibus gaudendi quam quibua alius gubernator aut
vicigubernator cujusvis alius arcia eiadem gaudet, et
similibua proficuis et beneficiia frui poterit. Prasfato-
que domino Joanni Drummond nunc praedicti arcis de
Inveraray gubernatori et custodi, omnibus mandatis
directionibus et praeceptis a nobid aut Secret! nostri
conailii dominis de tempore in tempus per ipsum re-
cipiendia secundum fiduciam per praeaentea in ipsum
repositam observantiam et obaequiam praebere im-
peramus. In Cujus re! testimonium praesentibus mag-
num sigillum nostrum appendi praecepimus Apud
aulam nostram de Whytehall septimo die mensis maii
anno d'ni millesimo sexcentesimo octogesimo octavo
Regnique n'ri a'no secundo. Per signatura' manu S. D, N,
Regis suprascript."
A. G, RETD.
Auchterarder.
" BROOM AND MORTAR."— I have in my posses-
sion a small manuscript volume relating to Sand-
wich. Among other matters it contains " a Table
of some things conteined in the Town's Book called
the New black Book, beginning 1608, ending 1642."
Under offenders otherwise punished, we have : —
"A Woman for scolding railing & misbehaving her-
selfe among her Neighbors, made to carry the Broom &
Mortar about Town."
" One for abuaiug Mls Mayoress carryed the Mortar
vpon the Handle of an old broom through the Town, one
alwayes going before tinkling a small Bell."
This mode of punishment is new to me, but it
may be very ancient to others.
J. M. COWPBR.
Canterbury.
STRANGE NOSTRUM FOR THE CUBE OF DIPSO*
MANIA. — A friend hands me the following notice :
" An itinerant quack from Tiflis, one Alaverdoff, made
no little stir in St. Petersburg and Moacovr, some time
ago, owing to his alleged successful conversion of hope-
less tipplers into model teetotalers, by means of a certain
wonderful elixir or potion, of which he claimed to possess
alone the precious secret. According to the Tiflittkii
Lisiok (Tiflis Leaflet), quoted by the St. Petersburg
Novoe Vremya of 16 (28) January, the man's move-
ments have long been watched, in the public interest,
and his much vaunted ' mixture ' is a aecret no more.
In an intercepted letter from Moscow to his mother at
Tiflis, he had complained that his stock of healing stuff
was exhausted, and had directed that a friend of his,
named Galust, should cautiously prepare a fresh supply
of the genuine article. This was to be done by catching
all the vagrant frogs to be found in the neighbourhood,
and reducing them to a strong decoction. Poor frogs
who would a-wooing go, how hard their fate ! Betrayed
to the prowling mountebank by their amorous croakings,
hurried away from their incomplete courtships, and done
to death as a dose for despondent drunkards ! At first
blush it hardly appears why people who drink like fish
should be cured by imbibing frog. Still, the strangeness
of the specific is not, in itself, proof positive of its in-
efficacy. Has not snail soup been held a sovereign
remedy for consumption ? Of such astonishing medicines
the number is legion. Nor, perhaps, woul.d the nauseous-
ness of the draught be universally admitted. In 'Le
s. xi. Ami, 17,
NOTES AND QUERIES.
307
Menage des Champa et de la Ville, ou Nouveau Cuisinier
Francois accommod6 au Gout du Terns,' Paris, 1738,
on p. 487, is a Recipe for Fricasseed Frogs' Thighs and
Backbones, viz. : ' Grenouilleg. On les ecorche, et on ne
leur laisse que lea deux cuisses, et 1 arrete du dos, puis on
les apprete en fricassee de poulets,' &c. I have never
(to my knowledge) tasted this dainty dish, but would
not mind trying it, for the nonce, as it is simply a matter
of habit and appetite. Puppy-dogs and birds'-nests are
declared delicacies, and special correspondents cooped
up in beleaguered cities have ere now found cats and rats
and such small deer a very toothsome diet. On the
other hand, I recollect the open-mouthed horror with
which a servant girl, fresh from the country, beheld us
swallow some oysters from England, declaring afterwards
that she almost heard the slimy abominations greet as
they glided down !
" But whatever people may choose to swallow of malice
prepense, and with eyes open, it is monstrous and in-
tolerable that a crafty charlatan should ply unsuspecting
invalids with frog-broth unawares, and we have no doubt
that ' Doctor ' Alaverdoff will be restrained for a time
from practising on the persons and pockets of his too
thirsty and too trusting patients,"
H. E. M.
St, Petersburg.
•writs*
We must request correspondents desiring information
on family matters of only private interest to affix their
names and addresses to their queries, in order that the
answers may be addressed to them direct.
" HA'PORTH OF TAR." — When or where did the
proverbial expression " to lose a ship for a ha'porth
of tar " begin ? One of our correspondents says it
occurs "in the once famous political play called, I
think, ( The Happy Land.' ' I have not seen this.
If any one can send it to us from this play, with
reference and date, it will he useful. The same
correspondent thinks, however, that "the saying
must be as old as the hills" — meaning, probably,
as old as Noah's Ark, when it floated over the
hills. Nowadays it is the sheep, not the ship, that
goes over hills, and it is interesting to find that
the version of the saying in the ' Craven Glossary/
1828, is, " Dunnut loaz t* yow for a hawporth o'
tar"; a very sensible and practical piece of hill-
shepherds' economy. May I suggest, then, that the
intermediate step between the ' Craven Glossary '
and u dockyard economy" was "Do not lose the
sheep for a ha'porth of tar ! " Perhaps the ' Happy
Land ' parodied the original maxim, and put ship
for sheep, for the fun of it.
J. A. H. MURRAY.
Oxford.
P.S. — Since writing the above, I learn that over
a large area of central England, including Shrop-
shire in the west, Notts and Suffolk in the east,
ship and sheep are identical in pronunciation ; and
a Nottinghamshire man has told me that in his
dialect he could not tell whether sheep or ship is
meant in the proverb. Bailey's form (fol. 1730)
" To lose a hog for a halfpenny-worth of Tar,"
Query, Was this a porcine " hog/' or the Northern
" hog," a two-year-old sheep ?
" HANSARDIZE." — The Athenceum of 15 Dec.,
1894 (p. 822), says : " M. Ollivier goes out of his
way to attack Thiers by ' Hansardizing ' him, as
the Prime Minister Lord Derby used to say, t. «.,
by reprinting one of his most foolish .speeches."
When did Lord Derby use this word ? It was
before 15 June, 1869, when Lord Granville said,
" I will venture now — to use a word, an admirable
word, invented by the noble lord opposite — to
Hansardize." J. A. H. MURRAY.
Oxford.
" CACORNE."— -This word is said to be a Devon-
shire term for the windpipe (see Halliwell and
Wright's 'Provincial Dictionary'). The word is
not known to our Devon correspondents. Is it in
use in any other part of the West of Englamd ?
THE EDITOR OP
'THE ENGLISH DIALECT DICTIONARY.'
The Clarendon Press, Oxford.
"JOYCE ON G.P.O."— Can you inform me
whether there is any book now in circulation
under the title " Joyce on G.P.O.," or whether it
is out of print, and its price? Information is
wanted for a colonial correspondent. SECURUS.
[Herbert Joyce, C.B., 'The Post Office till 1836,
Bentley, 1893, price 16*.
CARNATION. — Can you tell me how long carna-
tions have been cultivated in England, and whether
they are mentioned by Shakspere or any writer
contemporary with or anterior to him ?
B. A. S. A.
[Carnations, frequently spelt coronations, were familiar
in the sixteenth century (see the 'Oxford English
Dictionary'). Spenser refers to coronation. Gerard
refers to " great carnation gilloflower," and Shakspeare
to " Carnations and streak'd gillyvorB," « Winter's Tale,'
IV. iv.
ST. HUGH OF LINCOLN. — I should be exceed-
ingly grateful to any one who could give me a copy
of the Office of St. Hugh of Lincoln, said to exist
in a MS. in a public library at Stamford.
D. BEDE CAMM, O.S.B.
St. Thomas's Abbey, Erdington, near Birmingham.
" VINE " = LEAD PENCIL. — A correspondent
tells me that in Alnwick the children speak of a
lead pencil as a "vine." Can any reader of
*N. & Q.' say whether this word is so used in
other counties than Northumberland ; and what is
its probable derivation used in that sense 1
CHAS. WISE.
Weekley, Eettering.
"BOSTRAKIZE." — In an article descriptive of
" some changes in social life during the Queen's
reign," published in the current (April) number of
the Nineteenth Century, Sir Algernon Weat says
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
(p. 640) that in the early days of the reign " men
wore their hair much longer than now, falling
over their collars, and their whiskers drooped, or
were bostrakised, according to the fancy of the
wearer." " Bostrakize" is new to me, and I
cannot conjecture its meaning. It has a suspicious
likeness to ySocrTpv^i^eti/, and I have heard of
"the turbulent Turk who scorns the world and
struts about with his whiskers curled " ; but if the
Greek verb is its original, the transliteration is a
puzzle, and perhaps has a story to account for it.
Can any of your readers enlighten me ?
F. ADAMS.
106^, Albany Road, Camberwell.
'DEAD RIDES SIR MORTEN OF FOGELSANG."
—Can you inform me what is the meaning of the
refrain
Dead rides Sir Morten of Fogelsang,
which occurs in the poem ' The Wraith of Odin '
(' Tales of a Wayside Inn '), by Longfellow ?
N. K.
Bishop Auckland.
DR. EDWARDES. — Can any reader tell me what
were the arms borne by Dr. Thomas Edwardes,
Chancellor to John King, Bishop of London 1 His
will is dated 13 Jan., 1618, Who is the present
representative of the family ? I presume no por-
trait of the doctor nor any copy of his epitaph
exists. Kindly reply direct.
CHAS. JAS. F&RET.
49, Edith Road, West Kensington.
GEORGE III. SHILLING. — A friend of mine
possesses one of these coins bearing date 1787, and
round the inner rim the letters M. B. F. et H. Rex
F. D. B. et L. D. S. R. I. A. T. et E. Can any
numismatist decipher them for me ? I can get as
far as Magnes Britannise, Francise et Hibernige Rex,
Fidei Defensor, but no further. L. D. S. looks
very like the letters adorning the residences of
dental surgeons, but, of course, they cannot mean
anything so commonplace. J. B. S.
Manchester.
JOHN CLAYTON AND DR. DEACON. — In Mr.
Tyerman's * Oxford Methodists' are letters from
Clayton to John Wesley, containing messages from
Deacon. Can any of your readers tell me from
what books or MSS. these letters are taken ?
There are no references, and they are not, I think,
noticed in the * Diet. Nat. Biog.' Also, any infor-
mation about Edward Stephens, who officiated
somewhere in London in Queen Anne's reign,
would be gratefully received. Is he the "Mr.
St " mentioned in S. Wesley's 'Letter on
the Religious Societies'? I. F. M. 0.
CURIOUS VERSE ON CHRISTMAS MORNING. — The
following verse, evidently original, written in 1681,
is contained jn an octavo volume, being a collection
of sermons by, and in the autograph of, the Rev,
Thomas Withers, rector of Halton,* North Lan-
cashire, preached at the same and other neigh-
bouring places from 1678 to 1706 ; and is next a
sermon on Luke ii. 11, for Christmas Day, preached
1678, 1681, 1690, 1692, and 1703, but apparently
forms no part of the same : —
Christmas (81) Morning
Good morrow Babe ! heavens love, Earths joy, Hells
sorrow,
Sts rest, & Angells wonder, (Sweet) good morrow !
What charity, wl condescention's this,
To make us blesd dost thou tbys : leave blis,
Twixt Seven & stable, Zd/f w* difference. was,
Twixt hymnes of Seraphims, & braying Ass.
May thy aboad wth brutes, teach me to ebun 'em,
Thy leaving Angells Songs, help me to tune 'em.
This, however, reads like a speech in some old
miracle play. Has any reader met with it in
print? W. I. R. V.
"ALTAR GATES."— In 'The Mighty Atom'
(p. 95) Miss Marie Corelli takes us and her hero,
Lionel Valliscourt, into Cbmbmartin Church, to be
discoursed to as follows by " Reuben Dale, the
verger ": —
" ' Coom ! — look atthese 'ere altar-gates Jeat watch
these 'ere gates as I pull 'em to an' fro Do what ye will
wi' 'em, they won't shut — see ! ' and he proved the fact
beyond dispute, ' That shows they was made 'fore the
days o' Cromwell. For in they times all the gates o' th'
altars was copied arter the pattern o' Scripture which
sez— " An' the gates o' Heaven shall never be shut, either
by day or by night." Then when Cromwell came an'
broke up the statues, an' tore down the picters or whited
them out wheresever they wos on th' walls, the altars
was made different, wi' gates that shut an' locked, — I
s'pose 'e was that sing'ler afraid of idolatry that 'e
thought the folks might go an' worship th' Communion
cup on tV Lord's table. So now ye '11 be able to tell
when ye sees the inside of a church, whether the altar-
gates is old or new, by this one thing, — if they can't shut,
they 're 'fore Cromwell's day — if they can, they 're wot 's
called modern gimcrackery.' '
Like Lionel, I am "much impressed by the
verger's learning"; I think he could have given
wrinkles to Durandus. Was it the fruit of tradi-
tional folk-lore ; or can it be justified by anything
that may be "read in a book"? As forme, I
doubt what "altar-gates" may be ; but I incline
to believe that the gates of the rood or chancel
screen are so denominated, because Reuben's
remarks occurred in relation to an oaken screen on
which figures of the twelve Apostles were carved.
ST. SWITHIN.
"POKE." — The German - English dictionaries
give for the German game at cards Poch,
Pochspiel, the English "poke." I cannot find
* He was presented to the living by Thos. Butler, Esq.,
and instituted (loco Wm. Winkley, deceased) 29 June,
1677 ; died shortly before 16 Oct., 1706.
f The italics are mine, in order to show that the four
words, &c., so printed take the place of" thron & th' Asses
stall/' struck out, in the original.
s* s xi. Ami, IT. -97.] NOTES AND QUERIES.
309
this word in the dictionaries. Do any of your
correspondents know the game? The Pochspiel
is similar to the game of brag or poker. Oassell's
'German-English Dictionary* calls it "poker,"
without hesitation. The game is described in the
dictionaries of Sanders, Grimm, and Paul (in the
last under " Pochen "). H. 0. G. BRANDT.
AUTHOR WANTED. — I am curious to get informa-
tion as to the author of an anonymous book, called
'First Impressions of the New World on Two
Travellers from the Old, in 1858 ; xi, 308 pp., 1
map, London, 1859." The dedication is " To
T. L. T. My little girl," and signed "Your
affectionate Mother," and a reference in it is made
to 'how your father and I and your brother
William fared in a rapid journey." On p. 36 is a
reference to " my English maid, Thrower," p. 20
to Africa (the ship), p. 149 to Mr. A. T., and
on p.^ 380 to her husband's book on American
financial history. In the list of arrivals from
Liverpool by ship Africa, published in theJVeio York
Herald, are named Mr. and Mrs. Trotter and
maid and Mr. Trotter, jun. In the Washington
Evening Star, October, 1858, mention is made
of the arrival at Washington, stopping at the
National Hotel, of Mr. and Mrs. Alexander
Trotter. I find that in 1839 Alexander Trotter
wrote a book on American finances ; so from all the
above statements I infer that Mrs. Alexander
Trotter is the author of the book above men-
tioned. P. LEE PHILLIPS.
Washington, B.C., U.S.
Foulger, American Secretary of State, now deceased,
applied for extracts from the registers of this parish
of the Foulger and Fulcher family, very numerous
formerly here, from whom he believed he was
descended. 0. K. MANNING, F.S.A.
Dies Rectory, Norfolk.
AUTHORS OF QUOTATIONS WANTED.—
He said, " I have eternal life,"
Ae he threw his life away.
What need to hoard ? he could well afford
To squander his mortal day :
With Eternity his, what need to care 3
A sort of immortal millionaire.
ED. PHILIP BELBEN.
The hare shall kindle on the cold hearth-stone.
C. F. S.
"MASTER WILLIAM
trace parentage and to
BENNETT." — I want to
ascertain date of death.
ffe is said to have been a nephew of Thomas Tees-
dale, a great benefactor to the Free Grammar School
Abingdon. At any rate, he left certain lands
for the benefit of six poor children of Abingdon,
known as " Master Bennets poore schollars." He
lived at Fulham, temp. Eliz. and Jac. I. How he
san have been nephew of Teesdale rather per-
plexes me, ag I find that Teesdale's daughter
Elizabeth married Eichard Bennet, of Olapcot,
Jerks, the father of Alderman Thos. Bennet, of
London. How can a man be uncle to any member
of a family into which his daughter may marry ?
CHAS. JAS. FERET.
19, Edith Road, West Kensington, W.
ALGER, ALGAR. — Is there any manuscript pedi-
gree of this family and of its American branch?
Che name is very common in Norfolk. I observe
that the present Secretary for War in McKinley's
inistry is Mr. Russell Alger. Is that Christian
atne a family one ; or has it been only assumed in
Jent times? I find in the registers of Diss, co.
orfolk, among very many entries of Alger or
^ar, a baptism, 6 April, 1730, of " Russel, son
' John and Mary Alger." Some years ago Mr,
"RARELY."
(8th S. x. 333, 366, 421, 518 ; xi. 109, 173.)
The original objector, in these pages, to " It
is rarely that one of them emerges," at first
delivered himself as if he bad discovered, among
adverbs, only "rarely" circumstanced as in that
sentence ; his words being, " It is an exceedingly
common thing to find writers saying ' It is very
rarely,' when they mean ' It is very rare.'" Soon,
however, his attention was directed to " seldom "
and " often "; and then I not only produced, as
practically parallel to "It is rarely that," &c., "It
is impatiently that I expect my friend," with
several similar locutions, but also pointed out that,
quite idiomatically, many and many an adverb
may occupy the place held by "rarely" in the
sentence impugned. Yet — from precipitancy, to
put it decorously — we are now told that, among
all the locutions referred to, " not a single example
is formed on the model of 'It is rarely,'" &c.
And we are farther told, respecting what I had
written, that " one would have gladly recognized
[in it] something even remotely akin to the sub-
ject," and that " the divagations of F. H. give no
help at all." But peremptoriness of assertion,
when a makeshift for reasoning, is significant :
denial is not proof, and decrial is not argument.
As to the judgment that " F. H. appears to mis-
understand the point under discussion," it will be
seen whether any the least misunderstanding of it
can be laid at my door. The allusion is to my
remarks on the branding of " It is rarely," &c., as
"wrong "and "a solecism," because it does not
bear transposition of its clauses without entailing
absurdity. I had found it laid down that " the
subject here," that is to say, in the sentence in
question,
"is not the pronoun 'it,' wMch merely introduces the
statement, and is in apposition to the nominative. The
nominative proper is the noun-clause, ' that one of them
emerges.' Put it first, as it ought to be possible to do
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with every subject of this kind, and the result is, « That
one of them emerges is rarely.' Quid plura t "
To this I have, till now, demurred only by im-
plication ; rejecting, tacitly, the position that the
subject referred to "is not the pronoun 'it.'"
'. took it for granted that any one endowed with
a moderate aptitude for grammatical speculation
would be able, without assistance, to work out a
philological rationale of "It is rarely that one of
them emerges." Nor was I uninfluenced by the
consideration that 4N. & Q.' is hardly the place
for a technical disquisition. Moreover, and espe-
cially, when a given form of speech is arraigned
amiss as illegitimate, it is, under a practical
aspect, doing enough, by way of vindicating it, to
exemplify its authorization by approved usage ;
and I restricted myself to practicality. But my
reticence has been mistaken for something very
different ; and I therefore add the present supple-
ment to my former note.
In the course of this supplement, which I would
willingly have been dispensed from drawing up,
over and besides endeavouring to trace the evolu-
tion of expressions typified by, and also of those
quasi-analogous to, " It is rarely that one of them
emerges," I shall show cause for taking exception
to the analysis of that expression which has been
offered, and shall likewise observe on the chimeri-
calness of the English of what has been pro-
posed in its stead, namely, " It is rare that one of
them emerges," a sentence that can be analysed
only to the effect of producing incongruity which
trenches hard on nonsense. Touching " Karely
one of them emerges," which is expressly advocated
by the denouncer of " It is rarely," &c., the patron-
age of such worse than buckramed English, and of
" Rarely does one of them emerge," is simply pro-
vocative of a smile.
" Is it that he is alarmed ? " " It is not that I
am dissatisfied." " Was it that he had already
been there?" "Can it be that he has gone away?"
" It must really be that he has." Take, also, Job's
Be it, indeed, that I have erred, mine error
remaineth with myself," as well as "howbeit,"
'maybe," and the archaic or dialectal "being
that," one with "since." In these expressions the
verb " be " has the sense of " be the case " " be the
X~ _J_ 3f _ j 1. • i«« • *
In sequence to " I had lever go " and " I had as
leve go " came up " I had rather go," which is
punctually analogous to them ; and later, in viola-
tion of analogy, appeared "I had better go," "I
had best go," " I had as good go," " I had as well
go," " I had sooner go," and "I had as soon go,"
Of these pseudo-analogues none but the first two
have, save as colloquialisms, found much favour.
The ancient " I had as leve, or lief, go " has fairly
held its own ever since its introduction ; and " I
had liefer go " is still affected by archaists. My
object, just here, is the pertinent one of illustrating
the proposition that idioms wholly unanalogical
have gained acceptation. Doctrinaires and dog-
matizers, who receive as accredited phraseology
none but such as meets with their personal approval,
would ostracize them, I am quite aware ; but why
should their sapient findings be heeded ?
Analogy disregarded, as in "I had better go,"
s., constructions on a level with "It is rarely
•»••** VSI-^kJ \_/ * W\j UH V
fact : there is an ellipsis, but nothing like so violent
a one as that in " I have known him from a child."
And what is intended by " It is rarely that one of
them emerges," except " It is rarely the case that
one of them emerges"? "It" is, then, the sub-
ject ; and, in the elliptical "is rarely," convertible
with "rarely is," we have, when it is filled out, the
predicate.^ Indefinitely equivalent to "that one,"
&c., 'It" is the subject, representatively, by
anticipation. Not belonging to the predicate, it
is the subject, of necessity. With the construction
the full sentence may be compared that of " It
is very good, your assisting him,"
&c, rf
that one of them emerges " were succeeded by con-
structions on a level with "It is here that he
lives," which — varying, in sense, from " He lives
here" merely in the early presentation, for the
sake of stress, of "here" — cannot be integrated
into " It is here the case that he lives." But " It
is here that he lives " is accounted on a par, in the
article of respectability as English, with "It is
rarely that one of them emerges "; and hence it
was that, when writing before, I associated with
"It is rarely," &c., what is precisely parallel to
1 It is here," &c., the loosely congeneric " It is
reluctantly that a scholar measures swords, meta-
phorically, with a sciolist."
" It is only of late that I have made his acquaint-
ance." " It was with hesitation that he confessed
his crime." " It will be by word of mouth that I
inform him of my opinion." To venture a surmise
which cannot be thought unreasonable, expressions,
perfectly irrecusable, of this type led to the sub-
stitution in them, insensibly, of simple adverbs
for periphrastic ; and we thus have another theory
by which the genesis of phrases on all fours with
"It is only lately that," &c., may be accounted
for.
The proceeding by which it has been attempted
to make out "It is rarely that,"&c., to be ineligible
must not pass unnoticed. That the phrase ranks,
structurally, with "It is seldom that," &c., and
"It is often that," &c,, will be admitted ; and all
of them are sanctioned by reputable usage. Pru-
dens would, therefore, content himself with, at
most, recording his approbation of them, or dis-
approbation, as it might chance to be, and advising
others, aesthetically, to take them or to leave them.
But Inconsultus has chosen to deal with them in
quite another way. Assuming that an idiom is,
in its own right, nothing, and no more if it has
only brothers, but that it requires a whole cohort
of kinsfolk to make good its right to existence, he
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has subjected an innocent to plusquam-Procrustean
torture, in order to justify his assumption.
In my first note I adverted to the operation after
surviving which an expression like " It is strange
that one of them emerges" has had the fortune to
win the smiles of a grammarian. But the fate of
"It is rarely that one of them emerges" has been,
at his hands, altogether different. Having gone
through all that "It is strange," &c., has endured,
it must, before earning the grammatical hall-mark,
also lose a piece of its very heart ; it must put
up with having its " rarely " docked of a syllable,
to satisfy its vivisector. In the mangled shape of
" It is rare that one of them emerges," Inconsultus
has pronounced it, poor thing, to be teres atque
rotundus and entirely presentable.
As might be expected, after curtailment of its
vital organ, it is, however, no better than a lifeless
simulacrum. Though no breach of syntax is, to
be sure, predicable of "It is rare that one of them
emerges," the sentence labours under the fatal
defect of being well-nigh nonsense : much at one
with it is "It is uncommon that one of them
emerges." To any except persons void of a nice
appreciation of idiom — foreigners, and those who
approach foreigners in lack of appropriate sensi-
bility— this is perceptible; and so an end. "It
is a rare thing for one of them to emerge" is
English liable to no stricture.
The truth is, that the faculty of detecting false-
ness of idiom is by no means given to all. How
many, outside of England, are able, without
bethinking themselves painfully, to avoid blun-
dering about such simplicities as "shall" and
"will," "should" and "would"? And how
often, in England itself, is " would " misused for
"should"!
Of "It is rarely that," &c., I have taken "It
is only of late that," &c., and "It is reluctantly
that," &c., to be left-handed analogues. But
a learned and ingenious friend of mine, who has
obligingly helped me to round off the present
argument, would place all three on one and the
same footing, and would explain them by a theory
turning on " that," a term which philologists have
never as yet considered sufficiently.
Though not to the extent which obtained of old,
those who busy themselves unscientifically as
grammarians are still addicted to postulating that
usage, failing their suffrages in its behalf, is not
conclusively authoritative. Of all autocrats, gram-
maticules are, indeed, the most preposterous ; and
idioms, though a language despoiled of them would
lose half its flavour, are their pet aversion. " Aliud
esse Latine, aliud grammatice," says Quintilian,
alluding to their absurd dictatorialness ; and what
held good, in his ironical reflection, for Romans,
equally holds good, mutando mutato, for English-
men. F. H.
Marlesford.
LILIES OF THE VALLEY AT CANTERBURY (8th S.
xi. 245). — The connexion of these flowers with
archiepiscopal functions is earlier than Archbishop
Benson's time. In the contemporary account of
Archibishop Tait's enthronization it is stated that :
"His train was supported by Mr. Craufurd Tait, of
Christ Church College, Oxford, his only son, and Mr.
John Hassard, his private secretary, both in evening
dress, and wearing a lily of the valley." — 'Annual Re-
gister,' 1869, p. 9.
EDWAKD H. MARSHALL, M.A.
Hastings.
The following correspondence in the Canterbury
Press of 20 and 27 March is on this subject : —
" A correspondent of the Daily News corrects, on the
authority of the late Canon Scott Robertson, the pre-
vailing notion that the wearing of lilies of the valley
at an enthronement is an old Canterbury 'use.' Dis-
cussing the matter with him at the enthronement of Dr.
Temple, the Canon observed : ' That is the way history
is written. They were only used at Archbishop Benson's
enthronement because he was so fond of them, and they
are the fashion to-day.' '
" SIR, — In your last issue you note a correspondent of
the Daily News corrects, on the authority of the late
Canon Scott Robertson, the prevailing notion that the
wearing of lilies of the valley at an enthronement is an
old Canterbury 'use,' and that the late lamented Canon,
discussing the matter with Dr. Temple at his recent
enthronement, informed his Grace they were first used at
Archbishop Be/ison's enthronement because he was so
fond of them.
" I write to draw attention to the fact that we have a
Canterbury 'use.'
" The real Archbishop's flower is Campanula medium
Calycanthema, or St. Thomas's flower. This flower
was brought by the twelfth century pilgrims and laid on
the shrine of St. Thomas.
" The nineteenth century pilgrims, who come here in
ever increasing numbers on the 7th of July, should
revive this ancient 'use,' and bring their floral tributes
named after their much revered saint. This is to be
found growing wild in many woods around Canterbury.
" Yours faithfully,
" H. M. CLEMENTS."
H. A. H.
I have read somewhere (but cannot obey the
advice given by Dr. Routh to Dean Burgon, to
" verify his quotations ") that the lily of the valley
was the favourite flower of St. Thomas of Canter-
bury, as pheasant was his favourite food. Some
learned writer may perhaps enlighten us on this
point. GEORGE ANGUS.
St, Andrews, N.B.
LEWISHAM : ITS ETYMOLOGY (8th S. ri. 265). —
The Old English form of "Lewisham" may be
inferred from a charter granted by JEthelberht,
dated 862, No. 29 in Sweet's 'Oldest English
Texts ' (1885), p. 438. In this document mention
is made of Liofshema mearc, the mark of the
inhabitants of Liofshdm, the home or dwelling of
some person whose name began with the element
Liof (or Leof, i. e., " dear "). Napier and Steven-
son, in their edition of the * Crawford Charters
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NOTES AND QUERIES. is- s. xi. AraL 17, -97.
^•W^BMW^M
(1895) p. 116, have an interesting note on the
word hceme (or heme\ a plural noun, of which hema
in Liofshema is the genitive. The word hceme
means the inhabitants of a ham or " home," being
formed like Engle, the inhabitants of Angul,
Mierce, the people of the mearc or " mark." The
ijAofsham (Lewisham) is the s of the genitive
ending -es. There is no necessity for the hypo-
thesis of sunu (son), brought forward by PROF
PLOUGH WOMAN (8«> S. xi. 249).-The accom-
plished author of " Dorothy,' whose graceful pen has
not of late enriched these columns as was its wont
aforetime, is an eminent authority on the ex-
istence and the activities of working girls. He
published his fresh and fascinating idyl * Dorothy '
—written in very successful elegiacs— in 1880 In
an engaging preface he writes as follows :—
"You may have seen girls ploughing, in Germany, in
bwitzerland, or elsewhere ; but not in England? Well
1 have myself known or seen at least six English girls
who could plough and did plough; two in Devonshire,
two in Yorkshire, one in Gloucestershire, and one in
^eshire ..... I remember a farmer's wife in Cheshire
who told me with pride that when she was young and
was Ploughing near the roadside, the old Squire was so
pleased with her performance that he at once gave her a
sovereign ...... Of the Che8hire lass I have heard many a
tale concerning her prowess from her father, a respect-
able farmer and breeder of horses. He told me she
could plough as straight and well as any man he ever
saw, and spoke with fatherly pride of the great help she
gave him, m that and many other such ways."
This is how it was with Dorothy Crump, the
authors heroine : —
Ah what a joy for her, at early morn, in the springtime,
Infe ?°m ge g6 furr°WS a8 8fcraig^ as a
Seeing the crisp brown earth, like waves at the bow of s
vessel,
nr?^' Tk°™r> Td£n' under the thrusfc of the share •
Orderly falling and still, its edges all creamy and crumb-
and Purle as
In the great window at church, over the gentlefolk's
pew.
< Dorothy ' is not only notable because of its brieht
and vivacious illustration of an unusual theme
is also an important addition to the comparativelv
limited number of English poems written in
elegiacs See ' Dorothy, a Country Story, in
Elegiac Verse, with a preface," Kegan Paul & Co
'
Heleneburgb, N.B.
Need we take the Canon quite literally ? He
speaks of the " plump ploughwoman " as the female
tSKSE1^ rather than as a woman w
Hastings. EDWAR^ H. MARSHALL, M.A.
BLANCKENHAGEN (8th S. xi. 247).— If MR. ST.
ULAIR will look at 'Robson's Royal Court Guide
and Peerage, Commercial Directory of London
and the Western Counties,' 1840, vol. ii., " Corn-
wall," p. 45, he will find that there was a Mr.
Blanckenhagen living at Penzance at that date
(but the printer erroneously gives the name as
Blankerhagen). I understood at the time that he
was a tea merchant in London or Manchester.
In the 'London Directory' for 1885 appear
Blankenheym & Nolet, of Rotterdam, dealers in
Geneva. This possibly is the same name, and may
serve to confirm the theory that the family are of
Dutch extraction. GKORGE 0. BOASE.
36, James Street, Buckingham Gate.
"NOBODY'S ENEMY BUT HIS OWN" (8th S. x.
395, 498). — This is certainly traceable so far back
as 1594, when John King (Bishop of London in
1611) delivered his lectures upon Jonas. See
ed. 1618, p. 502, "Wee commonly say of a prodi-
gall man, that hee is no mans foe but his owne."
There is room for a complete dictionary of
English proverbs and proverbial phrases, for which
RayWollection might furnish a basis. The volumes
of ' N. & Q.' contain a mine of information on
this subject. RICHARD H. THORNTON.
Portland, Oregon.
CARRICK FAMILY (8th S. x. 415, 484 ; xi. 256).
—A few years ago there was— and there perhaps
still is— a lady of this name a teacher of music at
the Chester High School for Girls. I am unaware
where she came from. Letters of administration
of George Carrick, of Gloverstone (an old town-
ship round Chester Castle), were granted at Chester
in 1716. T. CANN HUGHES, M.A.
Lancaster.
The important hat manufactory in Carlisle still
belongs to this family, one of whose members is
also an eminent breeder and owner of fox-terriers
and master of the Carlisle otter-hounds.
G. R. K.
HAYNE : HAYNES (8th S. x. 515 ; xi. 37, 150,
232).— I regret to say that I cannot claim Dr.
Heynes as an ancestor, though I have made out a
considerable pedigree of his family. I have both
the wills MR. FERET speaks of. I should like much
to know if any descendants of this divine are still
to be found. If MR. FERET has not yet seen it, he
will find the I.p.m. on Simon Heynes in Foxe's
' Acts and Monuments,' vol. v. p. 359.
C. R. HAINES.
Uppingham.
CHERRY BLOSSOM FESTIVAL (8th S. xi. 248).—
I think your correspondent must refer to the fol-
lowing beautiful legend. In the month of July
there was annually celebrated, for four centuries,
at Naumbuig, a strange festival, known as "the
Cherry Feast." It was for the most part confined
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313
to young folks, who, when cherries were ripe,
marched through the streets of the town bearing
branches laden with ripe fruit. In the year 1432
a Hussite army besieged the city of Naumburg,
under the command of Procopius the Great.
When they saw the army outside their walls the
people became extremely frightened, and a council
was held to devise a method to save the town. It
was suggested they should send out all the little
children, for, said one, " the sight will surely melt
the hearts of the soldiers, and they will do us no
harm." This suggestion was acted upon. The
gates of the city were opened, and the little ones,
all clad in white, drew up before the tents. The
soldiers who came to kill and burn, threw down
their arms, and, gathering beautiful branches full
of ripe cherries, sent the children back to their
parents with those branches and a message of
peace. The children won a bloodless victory, and
in commemoration of it these branches were until
recently, if they are not now, carried through the
streets by the children (All the Tear Round,
23 July, 1887), EVERARD HOME OOLBMAN.
71, Brecknock Road.
Am I right in supposing that it is the " Cherry
Feast" of Naumburg that 0. is thinking of?
This dates from 1432, when the city was threatened
with destruction by the Hussites under Procopius.
At the suggestion of a weaver of the city all the
children were dressed in mourning and sent forth
to plead for mercy. The Hussite force happened to
be encamped near a cherry orchard, and Procopius,
being touched by the innocence and beauty of the
children, not only granted their petition, but sent
them back to the saved city laden with branches
of the fruit. It is something like forty years since
[ read in the Leisure Hour a story entitled * The
Weaver of Naumburg,' which was founded upon
this incident. Of course modern historians regard
fc as a myth ; but the festival is, I believe, still
kept up, and has a semi-religious character.
0. C. B.
"BOB"=AN INSECT (8th S. xi. 229).— Arch,
deacon Nares, in his 'Glossary,' says "bob,"
appears to mean a kind of worm, and gives the
following quotation of its use : —
Or yellow bobs turn'd up before the plough,
Are chiefest baits, with cork and lead enough.
Laweon's ' Secrets of Angling,' 1652.
Halliwell, in his ' Dictionary of Archaic and Pro-
vincial Words,' gives the meaning in Hampshire
as a louse or any small insect. They are mentioned
DATE OP SHAKSPEARE CONCORDANCE (8th S. xi.
188). — The Concordance was not completed till
1845 ; but its publication in monthly parts com-
menced so early as 1831. Both of these facts
appear from what Mrs. Cowden Clarke says in her
preface to the new and revised edition, written in
1881 :—
" It is now more than half a century ago," she writes,
"when, on the 15 July, 1829, sitting at the breakfast
table of some friends in pleasant Somersetshire, regret
was expressed that there existed no Concordance to
Shakespeare ; whose works formed the Bible of the
Intellectual World. Eager in everything, I resolved
there and then that / would write this desired Con-
cordance ; and that very forenoon, while joining my
friends in their walk through the fields, I took a volume
of the Poet and a pencil with me, and jotted down the
first lines of my book under B : —
' Boatswain have care.' ' Temp.,' I. i., &c.
Sixteen years of hard work, but delightful work, sufficed
to complete the manuscript."
Sixteen years added to 1829 give us 1845 as the
date of the completed work. But then Mrs. Clarke
goes on to say that " The Concordance made its
earliest appearance in Monthly Parts "; and that
these parts began in 1831 appears from the way in
which Mrs. Clarke concludes her preface, when,
writing in 1881, she says : —
"It is with gratitude and happy pride that I find
myself permitted to celebrate the Golden Wedding of
my readers with their faithful servant Mary Cowden
Clarke."
E. M. SPENCE.
as " Spiders, bobbs and lice >' in MS. Addit. 11812,
f. 16.
71, Brecknock Road.
EVERARD HOME COLEMAN.
DADLE" (8th S. xi. 226).— In my childhood
ttey (as I should spell it) was commonly used
the lower orders in Edinburgh for a pinafore or
In her own preface to that useful (but now
deprecated) work Mrs. Cowden Clarke tells us that
the idea of compilation seized her at breakfast, on
15 July, 1829, and that she began her labours
" that very forenoon," completing them in sixteen
years. EDWARD H. MARSHALL, M.A.
Hastings.
' Complete Concordance to Shakspeare/ by Mrs.
Cowden Clarkei London, C. Knight, 1844-5,
imperial 8vo., published in 18 parts, 2/. 6s. Second
edition, 1848, reduced II 11s. 6d. New edition,
Kent & Co., n.d. (1860), imperial 8vo., ll 11s. 6d.
JOHN RADCLIFFE.
HOLE HOUSE (8th S. xi. 148, 214).— As another
instance of the descriptive term "hole," and its
application to the situation of a place, I may men-
tion the picturesque little village of Beck Hole,
near Qoathland, Yorks. T. SEYMOUR.
9, Newton Road, Oxford.
" DYMOCKED " (8th S. xi. 109, 176).— This word,
which to my thinking should be spelt demmucked,
apron.
E. RlMBAULT DlBDIN.
arose some fifty years ago, when the potato disease
first made itself known in Lincolnshire. It was
called the potato blight, but this was not a suffi-
ciently fine word for those who wished to seem
learned, so the newspapers began to call it the
potato epidemic. Epidemic was a new word to
our Trent-side farmers ; they could make nothing
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of it, so they, very wisely, turned it into demmuck, a
word which has now become a part of our local
speech. The sentence quoted by your corre-
spondent means that the potatoes are affected by
disease. EDWARD PEACOCK.
Dunstan House, Kirton-in-Lindsey.
Demmick is used in Holderness, in the East
Biding of Yorkshire, in reference to the potato
disease : " Deean't let 'em stop onny langer i' grund,
or they '11 all demmick." Dimmock also is used as
a noun. Of. * Glossary of Words used in Holder-
ness,' E.D.S., 1877. F. 0. BIRKBECK TERRY.
SNEEZING (8th S. xi. 186).— It is to be hoped,
for the sake of ST. SWITHIN and others similarly
afflicted, that the idea of a violent fit of sneezing
being a preventive against fever is not on the
same principle as Punch's testimonial from a grate-
ful heir : " My uncle was afflicted with all the ills
that flesh is heir to, and life was a burden to him.
He took a box of your invaluable pills, and life was
a burden to him no longer." Many French people
still say, when any one sneezes, "Dieu vous
be'nisse"; and I was told the remainder of the
sentence is, "and preserve you from the fate of
Tycho Brahe," who appears to have avoided fever
and all other ills by a violent sneeze, which caused
his death. MATILDA POLLARD.
Belle Vue, Bengeo.
I have never heard that sneezing was a safe-
cuard against fever ; but in the North Riding of
Yorkshire I have heard it remarked that to sneeze
after meals, especially dinner, was a sign of health,
and that the sneezer, if he did it habitually, might
expect to reach a good old age.
F. 0. BIRKBECK TERRY.
WYVILL (8th S. x. 336 ; xi. 37, 113, 191).—
There was a William Wyvill, organist of St. Mary's,
Maidenhead, living a very retired life there in the
* fifties." He was unmarried. He was the son
(or nephew ?) of Z. Wyvill, who also lived there,
and was a musician of some repute ; he composed
a hymn tune, which was much sung in the early
part of the century, and he is no doubt the com-
poser of a march, about which there was recently
an inquiry in these columns. J. R. NEVE.
Campden, Glos.
The mention of the infrequent occurrence of this
name reminds us of Sir 0. Wyville Thomson, of
Challenger fame.
EDWARD H. MARSHALL, M.A.
" JACK o' THE CLOCK" (8th S. xi. 227).— There
are a pair of these in the east side of the north
transept of York Minster, also in the south aisle of
Norwich Cathedral. The whole question, with
illustrations of the Southwold and Blythburgh
" [Jacks," is dealt *ith by Mr. H. Syer Cuming,
F.S.A.Scot., in his paper on ' Jack of the Clock-
house,' printed at pp. 277-81 of vol. xxv. of the
Journal of the British Archaeological Association.
T. CANN HUGHES, M.A.
Lancaster.
Other instances of "Jack o* th' Clock," or
" Quarter Jacks " as they are generally called — at
Launceston ; St. Mark's, Venice ; St. Dunstan's,
Fleet Street (removed to the Marquis of Hertford's
Villa, Regent's Park) ; St. Mary, Rye, Sussex ;
the Town Hall of Carfax ; Notre Dame of Dijon ;
Wimborne Minster, Dorset ; and elsewhere — are
given in ' N. & Q.,' 7tb S. xii. 306, 393, 514.
EVERARD HOME COLEMAN.
71, Brecknock Road.
Instances and references in abundance were sup-
plied in 'N. & Q.,' 7tb S. xii. 306, 393, 514.
W. 0. B.
LAYMAN (8th S. xi. 106, 192).— If ME. WARREN
will consult Prof. Skeat's * Etymological Diction*
ary,' he will see that " lewd," or rather " lowed,"
originally " merely meant the laity."
EDWARD H. MARSHALL, M.A.
Hastings.
There is another meaning of the term " lewis," in
which it is brought into connexion with the mason's
art. " Lewis" is a contrivance for raising stones.
As such it is an emblematic sign of the art on the
ancient tombstones at Bakewell, as the bow is of
the forester. These were dug up on repairing the
church about fifty years since.
ED. MARSHALL.
"INVULTATION" (8th S. xi. 107, 236).— Most
people who read the correspondence on this subject
will remember the excellent story in the * Ingoldsby
Legends ' of the * Leech of Folkstone.' Not every-
body, however, will know that the original of that
story is in the * Gesta Romanorum.' In the ' Leech
of Folkstone ' pins are stuck into the image of the
yeoman in order that he may perish. But in other
particulars the story is the same as that in the
' Gesta Romanorum.' E. YARDLEY.
STREET INSCRIPTION (8th S. xi. 206). — As MR.
HAMILTON says, no mention is to be found of this
interesting old tablet in ' Old and New London,1
and it must be noted as singular that such an
omission should have been made. In that very
interesting book * Memorials of Old Chelsea,' by
my friend Alfred Beaver, at p. 168 is an illus-
tration of the houses at the Embankment end of
Danvers Street, upon which the tablet was placed.
To this illustration is appended the remark, " De-
molished in 1889," the author making no allusion
to the further inscription, in modern characters,
< This house rebuilt by J. Cooper, 1858." About
this date there seems to be something wrong, for
Wheatley, in * London, Past and Present,7 gives it
as 1838, and certainly, from my remembrance of
these houses, I incline to this being most likely
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315
the correct one, and that MR. HAMILTON has
wrongly quoted it ; my time being, however, too
fully occupied for a visit to Chelsea for the pur-
pose of verification. The omission of Mr. Beaver
appears to be just as peculiar as the other, save,
perhaps, that as his book purports to be memorials
of old Chelsea, the date of the rebuilding, which-
ever is correct, may have been thought to be too
modern for mention ; if so, it seems to be a pity.
As the demolishment is recorded as taking place
in 1889, a further addition to the tablet would
appear to be necessary to complete the chain of
evidence, stating in what year the more recent
erection was put up. It may be worthy of mention
that if a baker's business is now carried on here, the
illustration shows that at the time the sketch
was taken, 1889, this house was in the occupation
of an oil and colourman, according to the signboard
to be seen between the windows of the upper
story, W. E. HARLAND-OXLEY.
14, Artillery Buildings, Victoria Street, S.W.
Mr. Wheatley'a 'London, Past and Present,'
1891, gives this inscription as " This is | Danvers
Street, | begun in ye year | 1696 by William Stall-
worth," and continues, " The house rebuilt by J.
Cooper, 1838. " MR. HAMILTON has, I take it,
recently taken an exact copy of the inscription.
W. H. QUARRELL.
JOHN GREENLEAP WHITTIER (8th S. xi. 28, 91,
213). — SHAWMUT will, perhaps, not object to hav-
ing his attention directed to the following remarks,
taken from Canon Bardsley's 'English Surnames,'
1875, p. 331 :—
"Such names as 'John le Tawyere' or 'Geoffrey le
Whitetawier ' (now found as ' Whittear,' ' Whittier,' and
SVbityer'), not to mention such an entry as that of
'Richard le Megucer,' throw us back upon the time
when the terms these men severally bore as surnames
would be of the most familiar import. Their owners
spent their energies in preparing the lighter goat and
kid skins, which they whitened, and made ready for the
glovers' use."
A note adds : " According to Strype, the ' Com-
pany of Megusers' dealt in the skins of dead
horses, and flayed them. He mentions ' Walter le
Whitawyer ; in the same account (' London,7 vol. ii.
p. 232)." "Thomas le Wytewere" occurs in
Hundred Rolls, and also "Eustace le Wittowere."
F. C. BIRKBECK TERRY.
It will surprise me should SHAWMDT'S inquiry
lead to the discovery anywhere in England of the
name Whittier, so spelt. Somewhat curious on
the subject of patronymics, I have always scheduled
that of the great American poet as being the
equivalent of the English Whitcher of to-day ; or
perhaps it would be more correct to call the
English form a modern equivalent of the American
one, for it will be found by those who may be at
the pains to study the subject that New England
has commonly been more conservative of the old
spelling of family names as originally imported
into the old colonies than Old England has been.
So far as I have had opportunities of research only
in Hampshire is the name Whitcher to be found,
and it is a very rare one there ; Whittier being
nowhere discoverable in English or Welsh counties.
In Cheshire, Devon, and Sussex the name Whitter
is occasionally, though seldom, met with, and may
possibly be another modification, or debasement,
of the original Whittier. It may be assumed as
tolerably certain that were Whittier to be chanced
upon anywhere in England now, the local pronun-
ciation would be Whitcher. W. SHANLY.
Montreal, Canada.
I have always been an admirer of the poet
Whittier, and have been, at the same time, struck
by the singularity of his name. But I have seen
constantly the name Whitear on a carrier's waggon
that comes to Oxford from one of the neighbouring
villages, and have often thought that this might be
the first form, or certainly a cognate form, of the
poet's name. W. R. M.
Oxford.
Are not these variations of this name ? White-
hair, Whitear, Wither, Whiter, Whitter, Wheater,
Whithair, all in the 1887 ' Directory.'
A. C. H.
PEPPERCORN RENT (8tft S. xi. 268).— The
editorial note at 3rd S. x. 91 seems exhaustive and
satisfactory, except that no reference is given for
the poetical quotation : it reads like Hudibras.
As to the grain used, the question would not be
whether native or foreign, but what came next to
hand. When pepper was unground, a peppercorn
would be found in more houses than a grain, say,
of wheat or barley. Old cookery-books would be
the authority for this.
0. F. S. WARREN, M.A.
Longford, Coventry,
There is an explanation of this name in John
Timbs's ' Notabilia.' According to this : —
"A Peppercorn Rent, as one of the nominal items
payable by a vassal to his superior, seems to have ita
origin in the feudal ages. The word peppercorn, simply
denotes anything of inconsiderable value, which free-
holders pay their landlord to acknowledge that they hold
all from him :
Folks from mud-wall'd tenement
Brings landlords peppercorns for rent.
This kind of service is called in Scotland branch-holding,
in which the vassal pays a small duty to the superior, in
full of all services, as an acknowledgment of his right,
either in money, or in some other article, as a penny,
money, a pair of quill-speers, a pound of wax, or of
pepper, &c."
C. P. HALE.
STOCQUELER (8th S. xi. 267).— It may interest
T. S. to know that the name of J. H. Stocqueler
appeared in 1849 on the title-page of a romance
entitled * Alfred the Great,' published by George
316
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Peirce, of the Strand, near St. Mary's Church.
As all the other fiction from the same publisher
was issued in penny number?, probably this was
also ; but I never saw the work in that form.
Some time in the late fifties I had an interview
with Mr. Stocqueler concerning what he spoke of
as "a newspaper for gentlemen,7' upon which he
wished to engage me as sub-editor ; but the pro-
ject was not carried out. I have forgotten where
I met him, but it was a little west of Charing
Cross. I have a notion — how conceived I know
not — that he had been at one time engaged on an
Anglo-Indian newspaper. THOMAS FROST.
Littleover, near Derby.
For a list of Mr. J. H. Stocqueler's published
works see Allibone, who, however, gives no par-
ticulars about him. I recollect him as living in
London and working for the booksellers late in the
fifties and early in the sixties. He had formerly,
if I recollect right, been in the Indian army, or
else had seen Indian service in the English army.
He died, I believe, some twenty years ago or
more- E. WALFORD.
Ventnor.
"HUMMER NICK": "HUM-BUG" (8th S. xi.
25).—
When twilight did my Grannie summon,
To say her prayers, douce honest woman !
Aft yont the dyke she 's heard you bummin',
Wi' eerie drone ;
Or, rustlin', through the boortries comin',
Wi' heavy groan.
Burns, 'Address to the De'il.'
Then horn for horn they stretch an' strive,
De'il tak' the hindmost ! on they drive,
Till a' their weel swalled kytes belyve
Are bent like drums :
Then auld guidman, maist like to ryve,
Bethankit hums.
Burns, « To a Haggis.'
I recently saw a quantity of haggises in a shop-
window in Newgate Street, or Cheapside, north
side. THOMAS J. JBAKES.
It may, perhaps, be worth pointing out that in
Holderness, in the East Kiding of Yorkshire, the
river Humber is called Hummer, and that the
saying " Gan ti' Hummer" is used as an equiva-
lent to " Go to Jericho."
F. C. BIRKBECK TERRY.
BEAU BKUMMELL (8th S. xi. 269).— Miss
THOYTS'S questions are all answered, either in
Temple Bar, xxxv. 231 ; Cornhill, New Series,
i. 769 ; All the Year Eound, Second Series, xxvi.
106; or, lastly, by ' N. & Q.,' 1« S. ii. 264.
EVERARD HOME COLEMAN.
71, Brecknock Road.
'AVE, CAESAR, MORITURI TE SALUTANT " (8th
S. ix. 267, 415). — Pitiscus, in his note on " te
salutant" (Suetonius, ' Tiberius Claudius Drusus,'
xxi. 13), says : " Te salutant, quod in prima persona
Dio B. Xcupe avTOKpaTop, ot airoXov(j.€vot o-e
a<T7ra£o/Ae0a. Ave, imperator, morituri te salu-
tamus " (see ' Suetonii Opera, et in ilia commen-
tarius Samuelis Pitiscus,' Leovardise, 1714, torn. i.
p. 678).
MR. BIRKBECK TERRY, at the latter reference,
gives the salutation of the gladiators as "Have,
imperator, morituri te salutant ! " and the reply of
the emperor as "Aut non!" The more usual
readings are " Ave, imperator, morituri te salu-
tant," and "Avete vos." "Have" instead of
" Ave " is, of course, a mere difference in spelling,
the former being the ancient spelling. As to the
reply of the emperor, "Aut non "appears to be
the reading in the Codex Salmasianus, and, if it
was the reply, was probably meant as a suggestion
of the emperor that they were not all of them
about to die. The reply " Avete vos " is that
given in the edition of Suetonius above referred to,
in " Scriptores Historiae Romanse, Heidelbergse,
1748," in Valpy's Delphin edition, 1826, which is
"exeditione Baumgarten-Crusii," and in Bailey's
' Facciolati's Lexicon/ s. v. " Ave."
EGBERT PIERPOINT.
St. Austin's, Warrington.
BALLAD (8th S. xi. 267).— These lines are taken
from 'The Chatsworth Outlaw.' A copy can be
seen in 'Ballads and Metrical Tales,' London,
Burns, s.a. There is a print of the outlaw, p. 154,
by Scott. ED. MARSHALL.
THEODOSIUS THE GREAT (8th S. x. 272; xi.
275). — I am obliged to PROF. STOCKWBLL for
pointing out the slip in my note at the first of
these references, where I said that Zosimus speaks
of an eclipse of the sun during the second instead
of the first day's battle at the river Frigidus (now
called the Wipbach). It will be noticed, however,
that I correctly quoted Clinton, who refers to the
alleged eclipse on the first day and thinks that
Zosimus was mistaken. In passing, surely it is
rather a strong expression to say that because I
made one obvious slip, I " incorrectly stated the
facts." Zosimus is the only ancient historian who
mentions an eclipse as occurring during the battle ;
and his statement that in consequence of it the
combatants fought during more than half the time
in nocturnal darkness makes one very suspicious
as to this having been caused by an eclipse. Of
the historians Socrates alone gives dates, stating
that the battle was fought on 6 September,
and that Theodosius died on the following
17 January, other historians also giving the inter-
val between those two events as four months. If,
with Gibbon, Hodgkin, and other writers, we
accept these dates (and one does not see what
right we have to reject them), Zosimus was wrong
in attributing to an eclipse a darkness really
caused by the state of the sky. But PROF, STOCK-
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WELL contends that the battle must have taken place
later than September, chiefly because Claudian,
in his poetical account, speaks of the Alpine snows
being made red and the river Frigidus smoking
(his jokes in Gibbon's opinion are intolerable) with
I the blood of the slain. But it must be remembered
that the place of combat was very near the Alps,
and a tremendous gale from the north, such as we
know blew on the second day (when the fight was
renewed), and contributed greatly to the victory of
Theodosius, would bring snow from the moun-
tains at almost any time in the year. Another
reason urged by PROF. STOCKWELL for a late date
to the battle is that, according to Dr. Hodgkin,
some of the generals of Theodosius advised him,
after the defeat on the first day, to retreat and
not renew the combat till the spring — advice
which PROF. STOCKWELL thinks would have been
pusillanimous had it not been much later in the
season than September. Now the sole autho-
rity for this is the ecclesiastical history of
Theodoret, who is evidently anxious to ascribe
the final success as much as possible to Theo-
iosius himself. But besides this it seems to
me that the advice attributed to the generals by
Pheodoret, to " allow some pause in the campaign
30 as to muster an army at the beginning of spring
and outnu tuber the enemy," was much more appli-
cable to September than November, for at the
latter date there would not have been sufficient
time to levy another and larger army by the early
spring. I conclude, then, that there is no sufficient
reason for discrediting the positive testimony of
Socrates, that the battles at the Frigidus were
fought on 5 and 6 September ; nor for doubting
ihat Theodosius died on 17 January following,
which would be in the year A.D. 395. '
W. T. LYNN.
Blackheath.
SIR MICHAEL COSTA (8* S. xi. 129, 211, 239,
252). — I have examined the records of the Royal
Society of Musicians, and found Costa's own
nomination paper, filled in and signed by him on
t Feb., 1847. In that paper he stated his age to
DO thirty-nine. That would make the date of his
Dirth 1808. He signed the paper in full, Michael
Andrew Agnus Costa. After the presentation of
.he paper he attended a meeting of the Court, and
*as examined as to the accuracy of his statements,
Jeing warned, in the usual form, that any state-
ment made not founded on fact, or inaccuracy
nade, would possibly invalidate his election,
surely this is as near the fountain head as it is
)ossible to go, and must be accepted as true.
W. H. CUMMIN GS.
' SONES CARNALL" IN 1494 (8th S. xi. 9, 218).
In a legal document of 1494 the words son carnall
r filius carnalis, unqualified by any accompany-
ng phrase, would certainly infer illegitimacy.
Naturalis standing alone was the normal term,
but carnalis was steadily current also. (See Rid-
dell's 'Scottish Peerages,' pp. 450, 581.) The
citation from the Gartmore papers, however, is not
contemporary or from the original writ, so that
there may be serious question as to its value,
especially as the grant of some of the lands in
question in 1489, to John and Walter Graham
respectively ('Reg. Mag. Sig.,' ii., Nos. 1861-2),
does not stigmatize either of them with base birth.
Knowing nothing of Graham pedigrees, I cannot
presume to say more. GEO. NEILSON.
Ducange's * Glossarium ' has : " Carnalis, genui-
nus. Carnalis frater, utermus." Under the same
heading occur filius carnalis, carnalis parens,
pater carnalis, soror carnalis, &c.
F. C. BIRKBECK TERRY.
JOHN WOOLWARD (8th S. xi. 89).— John Wool-
ward, rector of Thorp-Abbots, Norfolk, till 1607
(Blomefield's 'History of Norfolk,' vol. v., 1806,
p. 326), may have been identical with John Wol-
ward (Woolward), of Queens' College, Cambridge,
B.A. 1593, M.A. 1597. DANIEL HIPWELL.
ARDRA: TWO-MILE BRIDGE (8th S. x. 355). —
These names are to be found as townlands in the
Census Returns for 1891 for the province of Mun-
ster. The spelling " Ardra " occurs in the parishes
Britway, Myross, and Rostellan, while "Ardrah"
is found in the parishes Kilmocomogue and Kil-
murry, all in county Cork. " Two-mile Bridge " is
not given in Limerick, but occurs in Kilgrant
parish, county Tipperary, and in Dungarvan parish,
county Waterford.
T. 0. GILMOUR.
Ottawa, Canada.
LEONARDO DA VINCI'S PAINTING OF THE ' LAST
SUPPER' (6thS.ix. 507; x. 89; and 'The Last Supper,'
x. 129, 197 ; 8tl1 S. xi. 52).— CELER ET AUDAX
opportunely recalls the interesting notes in'N.&Q.,'
6tb S., partly his own, on the identification of the
persons of this sacred drama ; for the earnest work
of a living painter has recently caused a similar
discussion. When his picture, after leaving the
Champ de Mars, was exhibited in London, the
figure intended by M. Dagnan-Bouveret to repre-
sent Judas was taken for Peter, and the emotion
to which he appears a prey attributed to shame at
his denial of his master, which had not yet taken
place. When the mistake was pointed out, a
cause for it was sought in the alleged familiarity
of the British public with various classic pictures
in which Judas is shown at the side of the table.
This is not easy to understand. It is not to the
British public of 1896, but to Leonardo's country-
men and contemporaries, that such an objection
would occur, accustomed to the isolation of Judas
and to attempts to combine that isolation with his
ability to put his hand in the dish with his master.
It is true that in the British National Gallery
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Ercole di Robert! shows Judas at a corner of the
table, out of all communion with the others seated
at it. But the British public does not spend much
time on this little picture. And if it does not
often take the trouble to walk upstairs and see in
the upper chambers of the Royal Academy Marco
d'Oggiono's fine copy of Leonardo da Vinci's
picture with spilt salt-cellar to boot, it is on the
engravings of this picture, little interfered with by
acquaintance with the works of Giotto, Ghir-
landaio, or other painter, ancient or modern, that
the British public has founded its conception of
* The Last Supper.'
Among the various modes in which this subject
has been treated by modern artists, has there been
any attempt to give that local colour which has
been attempted in other subjects by study of pre-
sent customs with presumed foundations in the
past ? The dipping the hand into the dish round
which many guests are seated is a matter with
regard to which various rules exist at the present
day- KILLIQREW.
Cairo.
" MALIGNA LUX " (8th S. xi. 264).— I think the
line, —
Quale per incertam lunam sub luce maligna,
may be translated, —
As by the uncertain moon's unkindly light,
or in some such way as that. If, with ME.
BIREBECK TERRY and some of the commentators,
we render lux maligna as " scanty, niggardly, or
insufficient " light, it seems to me that we rob the
poet of his imagery. Newman saw the beauty of
this language when, in his well-known hymn, he
used the words "kindly light." Referring to a num-
ber of passages in old German writers, Grimm says :
"Clearly in many of these expressions Night is
regarded as a hostile, evil power, in contrast to the
kindly character of Day" (< Tout. Myth.,' ed.
Stallybrass, ii. 752).
For malignus compare the 'Georgics,' ii. 179,—
Difficiles primum terra collesque maligni.
Here, I think, we should best retain the poet's
imagery by rendering colles maligni as " unkindly
[*. e., unfruitful] hills." In provincial English
good or fertile land is still said to be "kind," and
poor soil which produces late crops is said to be
'unkind." S. 0. ADDY.
f CHURCH TOWER BUTTRESSES (8th S. x. 494 •
xi. 51, 136).— MR. R. MILLS'S natural question as
to whether church tower buttresses had anything
to do with campanology has taken a singular
turn. MR. E. L. GAKBETT refers to tower but-
tresses as :< peculiarly English abominations."
ihere is nothing particularly English about them
at all ; and some of the finest buttresses of the
kind t ever saw are outside this country. Take,
for instance, the superb western tower of the
cathedral at Malines (Mechlin), which is ascended
by no fewer than 512 steps, each riser varying
from 7f to 7^ inches high. Its glorious buttresses
in dignity and projection eclipse anything of the
kind in England, and the splendid shadow they
throw upon a bright sunny day is the delight of
all beholders. HARRY HEMS.
Fair Park, Exeter.
SQUIRE'S COFFEE-HOUSE (8th S. xi. 126, 250).
—The following information will perhaps be of
interest. Sir George Fulwood was the eldest son of
John Fulwood, of Middleton by Youlgrave, Derby-
shire, yeoman, where he was born probably about
1558. He was bred to the law, and passed the
greater part of his life in the practice of it in Lon-
don, as in 1608 he is styled of Fulwood Street,
Holborn. He undoubtedly resided at Middleton in
later life, for in 1611 he served the office of sheriff
for Derbyshire, being then styled of Middleton.
On 11 Dec., 1606, he was knighted by James I.
at Whitehall. He was twice married, and, dying
in 1624, left children by both wives. He was suc-
ceeded at Middleton by his eldest son Christopher,
who was probably born in London in or about
1590. He, like his father, was bred to the legal
profession in Gray's Inn, of which society he was
appointed Autumn Reader in 1628, and Treasurer
in 1637. He was employed to raise the Derby-
shire miners as a life-guard for Charles I., and so
exerted himself that he was soon at the head of
1,100 men on Tideswell Moor — this was in 1642.
He was, however, attacked at his house at Middle-
ton by Sir John Gell's emissaries (evidently at an
unprepared moment), and, endeavouring to escape
by the dale at the back of his house, was hotly
pursued and shot down whilst seeking shelter be-
hind a rock. This rock, where such a gallant and
zealous royalist was killed, is still to be seen, and
is known as "Fulwood's Rock."
CHARLES DRURY.
" ALPHABET-MAN " (8th S. xi. 207, 271).—
"What was technically termed the alphabet This
was nothing more than a rack with divisions correspond-
ing to the letters of the alphabet, into which might be
sorted ready for delivery all correspondence addressed to
the Post Office to be called for. Such was its primary
object; but in course of time the bankers and merchants,
finding that through the alphabet they could get their
letters sooner than if delivered by letter-carrier — as soon,
indeed, as the mail arrived — made use of this expedient
for their ordinary correspondence, readily paying for the
accommodation a fee ranging from three to five guineas
a year."—' The History of the Post Office,' by Herbert
Joyce, C.B., of the Post Office, 1893, p. 374.
B. C.
MOSES HORTON (8th S. xi. 49, 158). —When I
saw this query I looked for the name in several
books of reference, and not being able to find it,
I came to the conclusion that Moses must have
been but a poor artist. With the information on
p. 158 there is no difficulty. Moses Haughton,
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319
father and son, will be found in Graves's ' Diction-
ary of Artists,' second edition, 1895. If MR.
CLAYTON requires any more than the printed in-
formation, Mr. Graves has vast manuscript stores
(one cannot get away from " stores " in these days),
out of which he can supply fuller particulars (for
a nominal consideration) I believe.
KALPH THOMAS.
SCOTTISH CRAFTSMEN (8th S. xi. 68, 191). — I
can endorse the statement of your correspondent
MR. 0. GREEN as to the picturesqueness and
artistic merit to be found in the carvings on old
Scottish tombstones. I should like to direct
special attention to the old graveyard, Church
Street, Inverness, and to many of the stones in
Elgin Cathedral. No doubt your correspondent
had also observed the custom of giving the wife's
maiden name only. J. E. HORRIGAN.
Langkolme, Oxford.
MORGAN OF ABERGAVENNY AND NEWINGTON
BUTTS (8th S. xi. 228).— I have a deed of 1653,
relating to tenements in the town of Abergavenny ;
it is witnessed by " Walter Morgan, Esqre," and
" David Morgan, Esqre." There is a family of
Morgan, yeomen, residing between Usk and
Raglan, with whom Walter is a frequent baptismal
name. JOHN HOBSON MATTHEWS.
Town Hall, Cardiff.
AUTHORS OF QUOTATIONS WANTED (8th S. xi.
249),—
O ! many a shaft-, at random sent,
Finds mark the archer little meant !
These lines are from Sir Walter Scott's ' Lord of the
Isles,' canto v. stanza 18, and might have been found in
any creditable book of quotations. They are often quoted,
as by your correspondent, with the word " Full " sub-
stituted for the interjection, possibly from mental asso-
ciation with Gray's " Full many a gem." F. ADAMS.
(8th S. xi. 269.)
Can it be, 0 Christ in heaven.
The author is Sarah Williams, who wrote under the
name of " Saidie," and the lines are the beginning of the
third verse of a poem called "Is it BO, O Christ in
Heaven ? " C. HILLIEK.
NOTES ON BOOKS, &o.
Dictionary of National Biography. Edited by Sidney
Lee. Vol. L. (Smith, Elder & Co.)
FIFTY volumes of this important work, or four volumes
more than sufficed for the entire contents of the ' Bio-
graphie Universelle ' of MM. Didot, have now appeared,
and the work, which has entered on the letter S, may be
said to be within sight of completion. A conspicuous
feature in the latest volume is the reappearance of the
ex-editor, Mr. Leslie Stephen, who supplies a long bio-
graphy— the longest, apparently, in the volume — of
Henry St. John, Viscount Bolingbroke. The stormy
career of this friend of Swift and Pope, equally con-
spicuous in politics and letters, is told with the serene
impartiality for which Mr. Leslie Stephen is celebrated.
At the Treaty of Utrecht, in consequence of the know-
ledge of Bolingbroke and Oxford that on the question of
peace their heads as well as their fortunes might rest, the
French obtained better terms than they expected or had
claimed, a result the blame of which Bolingbroke threw
on the Dutch and the Whigs. The characters of Oxford
and Bolingbroke were " so opposed as to make discord
certain," and the reconciliation attempted by Swift was
hopeless from the first. Of Bolingbroke's position as
Secretary of State to the Pretender, it is said that he
was minister at a mock court, and " found it hard to play
his part with a grave enough face." An excellent
account is given of the intimacy with Pope and the
altercation with Warburton, and the growth of the
friendship with Hume (Marchmont) is well traced.
The conclusion is too long for quotation. It begins,
"A profligate and a freethinker, he had to serve the
most respectable of queens and to lead the High-Church
party. He was forced by political necessities to take up
with the Pretender, whom he cordially despised, and
after repudiated." The present editor deals with no life
so varied in interest as that treated by his predecessor.
He takes charge, however, of many personages concern-
ing whom students of literature are highly interested.
First of these comes Thomas Sackville, Earl of Dorset
and Baron Buckhurst, part author of ' Gorboduc ' and
originator of the 'Mirror for Magistrates.' The « In-
duction " to the latter work is, Mr. Lee holds, without a
rival in dignified, forcible, and melodious expression
" among the poems issued between Chaucer's « Canter-
bury Tales' and Spenser's 'Faerie Queene.'" "Rich,
cultivated, sagacious, and favoured of the queen, he
possessed all the qualifications for playing a prominent
part in politics, diplomacy, and court society," says his
biographer. Consequently the career Mr. Lee depicts is
exceptionally prosperous and honoured. George Sandys,
the translator of Ovid, he regards as showing himself, in
his rendering of the 'Metamorphoses,' by "exceptional
metrical dexterity and the refinement with which he
handles the couplet," entitled to "a place beside Den-
ham and Waller." The rather delicate spiriting neces-
sary in dealing with the life of George Augustus Sala
is also furnished by Mr. Lee, who conveys an intelligible
idea of the difficulties besetting the biography without
accentuating anything, and most certainly without
setting "down aught in malice." On the whole, the
editor, the full extent of whose contributions we have
not indicated, is well represented, and sets once more a
good example of condensation to his team. The painful
career of Richard Savage has been trusted to Mr. Irving
Carlyle, who accepts plenarily the conclusions of Mr.
Moy Thomas as to the untrustworthiness of Savage's
claim to noble descent. See « N. & Q.,» 2nd S. vi. passim.
Richard Savage, the fourth Earl Rivers, is in the hands
of Mr. Thomas Seccorobe, now a frequent and an im-
portant contributor. Wye Saltonstall, like Sandys a
translator of Ovid, but as obscure as hia predecessor was
brilliant, is dealt with by Mr. A. F. Pollard. Michael
Thomas Sadler, an interesting personage, now wholly
forgotten except of the few, and a power in the North
in the first half of the century, is treated by a namesake
and presumable descendant. Many turbulent Scottish
noblemen — Ruthvens and others— are for the most part
assigned to Mr. Henderson, while Prof. Laughton has
opportunity, under Saumarez and other names, to show
his unrivalled knowledge of naval affairs. Humphry
Sandwith, of Ears, is safe in the hands of Col. Lloyd. Mr.
W. P. Courtney and Mr. Thompson Cooper, Mr. Gordon
Goodwin, Dr. Garnett, Dr. Norman Moore, Mr. Charles
Welch, and Mr. Warwick Wroth are well represented.
The Rev. W. Hunt writes on Henry Sacheverell Mr!
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C. H. Firth on Oliver St. John. The volume is, indeed,
quite up to the average in importance and interest, and
appears, it ia needless to say, with exemplary punctuality.
In the case of Sir Titus Salt, one or two instances of his
marvellous commercial enterprise might, perhaps, have
been cited, and the penuriousness of Sams, the book-
seller, and the charges against him of sophisticating the
rare books in which he dealt, merited some reference.
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necessarily, that from Prior's 'Life of Burke,' "I say
ditto to Mr. Burke." " A suit of ditto," now more fre-
quently dittoes, occurs so early as 1755. The dodo, we
find, was alive in London in 1638. Very picturesque is
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or fascicle of written leaves or sheets, hence a collection
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transition of the vtord flirt from its first signification, to
propel with a sudden jerk, to the latest signification, to
play at courtship. Of a growing misuse, or rather mis-
interpretation, of the word — as yet not, perhaps, defi-
nitely formulated — no notice is, properly, taken. Not
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alertly. In the earliest traced use we have " a bird of
flippantstwing." Fog=&i termath ia said to be of unknown
origin. All that is said under fog and foggy, though only
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LONDON, SATURDAY, APRIL 24, 1897.
CONTENTS.— N°278.
NOTES .— Shakspeare and Holinshed, 321— Religion of
Queen Elizabeth, 322— Addition to National Anthem, 323
— " The classes and the masses "— Stonehenge Bird —
Letter-paper Heading—" Buslet "— " Warta "=Work-day—
Lord Beaconsfield, 324 — Pronunciation and the ' N. E. D.'
—Pope's Villa— Dog Row, Mile End, 325— Lady Hamilton
—French Psalter, 1513— Version of Epitaph, 326.
QUERIES :— Sir E. Littleton—" Little Dick of Belle Vue"—
Tourgenieff — Haselden — Pen-and-ink Drawing — Seal of
Sligo — " Duddery" — Vernons of Haddon— Walsinghams—
Heraldic — Silver Plate, 327 — Author of Fable — French
Song — Judge Davis — Haydon's Diaries — St. Dunstan —
Marriage Custom — Noblemen's Door-plates — Spanish
Armada — All Hallows=Holy Trinity — Posy Ring — Lord
Bowen — Stepney, 328— Roman Steelyards — First Ship
Named — Swinton — Allan Blayney — St. Paul's Parochial
Society— Children of Sir H. Percy, 329.
REPLIES :— Virgil's Epitaph, 329— " Ha'porth of tar"—
" Handicap," 331— " Tongue-batteries "—Earls of Derwent-
water— Folk-lore of Umbrellas — Proverb, 332— Topogra-
phical Collections — Gillman Family — Pasco : Pascoe —
Cagots— Politician— " Fasesying "— " Animalculse," 333—
Female Names — " Joffing Steps " — Age of Yew Trees —
Passage in ' Middlemarch ' — " Barghest," 334— Keck Family
— Miss Fairbrother — Hood's "I remember" — Gaule's
'Mag-astro-mancer ' — Date of the First Easter, 335 —
" Between the shrine and the stone " — ' The Vicar of
Wakefield ' — Henrietta Maria — Thomas Solas — Louis
Panormo, 336— Names of Drugs— H. Walter—" Darling of
Mankind "—Early Copying Machine, 337— Trials at Bar-
Lancashire Hornpipe — Longest Reign — "Under the
weather "—Ghost Story — Gretna Green, 338— Carrick, 339.
NOTES on BOOKS :— Baring-Gould's ' Lives of the Saints'—
Barrfere and Leland's 'Dictionary of Slang' — Farmer's
' National Ballad and Song,' &o.
SHAKSPEARE'S 'MACBETH' AND HOLINSHED-
I think that it has been hitherto accepted by all
Shakespearean critics that the sole authority for
1 Macbeth ' was Holinshed's ' History of Scotland.'
That is, of course, without consideration of the
comparatively trifling allusions to Plutarch, Scot's
* Disco verie of Witchcraft,' &c. But I came to the
conclusion over ten years ago that Shakespeare had
another and fuller authority than Holinshed for
the historical part of this play. I stated my argu-
ment fully in an article entitled * Shakespeare's
Materials for "Macbeth,"' in the Athenceum of
10 Aug., 1896. But I would like to point out to
your readers some curious parallels by literal
quotations. Bellenden was appointed to make a
translation of the Latin history of Boece into
Scottish prose for the use of James V. This was
printed in 1540, and was the original of Holin-
shed's rendering, 1577-87. At the same time
William Stewart was told to frame a metrical
translation into Scottish verse. This he com-
menced in 1531, and finished in 1535, yet it was
never printed till it appeared in the Rolls Series
in 1858. But the original manuscript copy must
have been in the possession of King James, who
showed Shakespeare's company such extraordinary
favour. There is some reason to believe that the
nng wished to have a play written on his ancestral
history, and it is quite possible that he may have
shown Shakespeare the precious volume in order to
assist him in doing so. There are many variations,
not only in rendering, but in incident, in Stewart's
translation, depending either upon collected tradi-
tions or poetic invention, which give it quite a dif-
ferent character from those of Bellenden and Holin-
shed. In every case in which Stewart differs from
Holinshed, Shakespeare follows Stewart, and this
not only in the characters of Macbeth and his wife,
but in the other pair whose story Shakespeare
combines with theirs, Donewald and his wife.
Stewart, probably hampered by rhyme, dwells
much longer than Boece upon actions, thoughts,
and feelings, and conversations are introduced that
have no place in his original.
There are many traits in his sketches of Mac-
beth and of Donewald that account for touches
in Shakespeare. The character of Lady Macbeth
is told by Holinshed in three lines, and only con-
cerns her great desire to bear the name of queen.
The character of Donewald's wife is not worked out
by Holinshed nearly so fully as it is by Stewart.
It is Stewart who makes Donewald's wife bid her
husband look up clear, and leave all the rest to her.
It is Stewart who suggests the idea of a swoon, not
in "the lady," however, but in Donewald himself:
Dissimulat syne, for to fall in swoun
As he wer deid thair to the erth fell doun ;
Sone after syne quhen that he did retorn
Out of his swoun, he stude lang in ane horn.*
It is Stewart who sketches, in the terrors of the
Kenneth who murdered Malcolm, the vision and
the voice that broke Macbeth's sleep. It is Stewart
who represents Macbeth brooding over the king's
injuries, and who suggests the " golden opinions "
of others, before his wife induced him
For til destroy his cousing and hia King
So foul ane llek to put into his gloir
Quhilk halden wes of sic honour befoir.
It is Stewart who developes the character of Lady
Macbeth, and who adds to the tender love and
sympathy of a devoted wife the free strong lan-
guage that stings her husband to the quick : —
Quhen this wes said, than echo begouth to flyt
With hym that tyme, and said he had the wytt
So cowartlie that durst nocht tak on hand
For to fulfill as God had gevin command
Quby suld thou dreid or stand of him sic aw
So blunt, so blait, beraud himself so law
That war nocht thou and thi aucthoritee
With all his Hegis he wad lichtlied be ?
And now to the sin he is so unkynd,
Thairfoir, scho said, I hald the by thi mind
To dreid the man the quhilk for the is deid,
And throw thi power oft of his purpois speid,
Now tarie nocht thairfoir; speid hand, haif done,
And to thi purpois, se thou speid the sone,
And haif no dreid, for thou hes all the rycht
Granted to the be gratious God of mycht.
Stewart, 1.39,794.
Thus far Lady Macbeth ; but as we know her
* 1. e.f musing fit.
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husband did not really murder Duncan, but treated
him a little better than Henry VII. treated
Richard III. at Boaworth Field, we have to go
back seventy-three years to find the passage fitted
on to this by Shakespeare. Donewald's wife says
to her husband : —
Blyn of your baill, se ye be blyth and glaid
And slaik also of all your syte and sorrow,
All salbe weill, I find you God to borrow
To my counsaill, and heir I tak on me
Of all injure thou sail revengit be.
Conseder how thou hea at thi command
Of all this castle ilk eyre and servand
How can thou find, scho said, ane better tyme
To be revengit of this cruell cry me
In all thi lyfe, thocht thou wald nevir so fane
Thou sail nocht get so gude a time again.
Donewald, having his spirit thus stirred up against
the king, made his resolution : —
Yit neuertheless with dulce wordis and sweit,
Rycht jocundlie wald commun with the king,
That he suld nocbt suspect him of sic thing,
The answer of the weird sisters to Banquo is more
fully given than in Holinshed. They replied to
his inquiry, —
Makcobey of Scotland shall be king,
Syne sone efter, be adventure and strife,
With lak and schame sail loiss baith croun and lyfe,
And never ane of his successioun,
Fra that day furth of Scotland bruke the croun.
And thou Banquo, tak gude tent to this thing
Thou thi awin self shall nevir be prince no king,
Bot of thi seid sail lineallie discend
Sail bruke the croun on to the warldis end ;
an idea suggested in the vision of Shakespeare's
' Eight Kings,' and the ' Interlude at the Oxford
Triumph,' 1605 :—
Quhen this vvea said, tha baid all three gude nycht
And quhair awa, quhither to hevin or hell,
Or quhat tha war, wes no man yit can tell.
So many resemblances exist, not only in whole
passages but in words and phrases, that I think
oareful students must believe that Shakespeare
either knew this translation of William Stewart, or
gome other work or tragedy based thereupon.
It is fortunate for us that we have the testimony
of Webster, the dramatist, to the " right happy and
copious* industry of Master William Shakespeare,"
as it makes the preliminary study for ( Macbeth "
seem less impossible.
CHARLOTTE CARMICHAEL STOPES.
THE RELIGIOUS PERSUASION OP QUEEN
ELIZABETH.
Strype gives an account in his life of Whitgift
of the last illness and death of Queen Elizabeth,
It seems to be on his authority that historians
tell us that she was attended in her last sickness
by Archbishop Whitgift.
1 Preface to ' Vittoria Corrambone; or, the White
Devil.'
When the queen had once assumed, as she did
at the beginning of her reign, the supremacy of the
Church in England, she could hardly be a loyal
subject of the Supreme Pontiff afterwards. She
lad no doubt noticed the encroachments of the See
of Rome on the liberties of the Gallican Church,
which, it will be remembered, the Popes refused
to withdraw from in 1560, at the commencement
of her career. These encroachments made an un-
favourable impression on the minds of reflective
persons at the time, and had doubtless been con-
sidered by Elizabeth ; still, she had been baptized
into the Eoman Church, so far, at least, as the
English Church could be looked upon as Eoman
after Henry had renounced the supremacy ; she
had sent to the Pope to notify her accession to the
throne ; and it is quite possible she might, in the
early part of her reign, have preferred to conform
so far as she could to the usages of the Roman
Church. But as years went on the treatment she
received at the hands of the Popes threw her, so to
speak, into the arms of the opposite party ; this,
as events proved, was that of the Puritans.
Whether Elizabeth availed herself of the oppor-
tunities she had, in early life, of considering the
Lutheran form of faith, I scarcely know. Froude
says, in his 'Catherine of Aragon': "The Lady
Anne and her father were staunch Lutherans"
(chap. xii.). It may be noticed also that Elizabeth
had an acquaintance with Anne of Cleves. The
followers of Luther were certainly very numerous
in this country in the reign of Henry VIII., and
they had some active supporters in the religious
houses before their suppression. Burnet says
('Hist. Ref.,' vol. i., anno 1540) Cromwell was
undoubtedly a Lutheran ; and he explains that
when, at his execution, Cromwell declared that he
died in the Catholic faith, he did not mean the com-
munion of the Church of Rome. But the Re-
formation assumed ere long in England an attitude
not only indifferent to Lutheranism, but even
opposed to it, and it ceased to find much favour
in this country. The queen had no liking for the
Puritans, who were, of course, usually Calvinists.
She might, and I believe would, have preferred
Lutheranism to Calvinism ; but the overmastering
tendency of religious thought in England at the
time caused Calvinism, as the extreme form of
reaction from Romanism, to be accepted by a very
large part of the friends of the Reformation.
Hence the queen had no choice ; and she
acquiesced, perhaps somewhat unwillingly, in the
form in which religion was presented to her at the
time. It was not discovered till her reign was over
and Montague at Stanford Rivers presented the
Church of England as other than Calvinistic, nor,
indeed, until the age of Laud, that Calvinism is not
to be found in the Prayer Book, and only in a
harmless and modified form, if at all, in the Thirty-
nine Articles. If it had been, we may ask, Why
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323
should Dr. Whitaker and the Calvinists have been
so anxious to force the Lambeth Articles —to the
adoption of which as a form of faith the queen
is now gone), that he was in attendance on Queen
Elizabeth in her last hours: "Eidem Reginae
herself put a stop — on the Church of England and
on the country ?
After the injunctions had been issued the queen
supported the Church of England on political
grounds ; the injunctions were really hers, although
she preferred to throw the onus of procuring
ecclesiastical conformity on the bishops. She was
urgent with Parker, commanding and directing
him to see that obedience to the laws ecclesiastical
was secured in the various dioceses. And why 1
Because to refuse the habits or to depart otherwise
from the established order was to dispute her
authority and to endanger the stability of one of
the institutions of the realm.
Queen Elizabeth, unlike her sister Mary, had no
strong religious persuasion ; she was a politician
rather than a religionist, and, as time went on,
became more and more an example of the state-
ment that has been made by some one, and is, in
fact, self-evident, that the atmosphere of political
life is not favourable to religious persuasions or
convictions. She had established and settled the
Church of England as the religion of the country
at the beginning of her reign ; to that settlement
she adhered. She believed in the necessity of a
reformation of some kind. She could not return
to Home as unreformed ; so she died in the com-
munion of the Church of England as by law estab-
lished. This can, I think, scarcely be doubted by
any one who takes an impartial view of the evidence
we have bearing on her views at the close of her life.
Besides Archbishop Whitgift, she was attended
in her last hours by Dr. Bancroft, Bishop of London,
When the archbishop offered prayers and consola-
tions in her chamber as her end drew near, she
received his ministrations willingly and gladly. A
prayer composed for her by the archbishop, or
thought to be his, was copied by Archbishop San-
croft, and is, or was, in the library of Emmanuel
College, Cambridge, where he was Fellow and
afterwards Master. The queen paid also parti-
cular attention to the ministrations of her almoner,
Watson, Bishop of Chichester, and in reply to an
inquiry from him signified her assent to the Articles
of the Creed. There is an account of Bishop
RTatson in Cooper's ' Athene/ where it is said he
died unmarried. The clergy who were not married
were so far the more acceptable to the queen. I
suppose Watson was inclined to Puritanism.
Strype says that in her last illness she had
"several of her learned and pious Bishops fre-
quently about her " performing the last offices of
religion. Among them was one whose name I have
not seen noticed as in attendance — I mean Dr.
3enry Parry, or Parrie, who died Bishop of
JVorcester in 1616. The inscription on his monu-
ment in the cathedral states, or rather stated (for it
[viz., Elizabeths] animam efflanti precibus supremis
adfuit." The monument will be found figured in
Dr. Thomas's ' Survey of Worcester Cathedral.'
The effigy, which remains in the cathedral, shows
the bishop in the episcopal habit of the Reformed
Church, viz., the rochet and chimere. Bishop
Parry was a Puritan, and translated into English
the Heidelberg Catechism, a Calvinistic document.
If any of your correspondents would like to
state their views on the various difficult questions
referred to above, I should be pleased to learn
their opinions, and to ascertain whether they
think there is any doubt as to the religion to
which the great queen of whom I have written
adhered in her last days. S. ARNOTT.
Ealing.
ADDITION TO NATIONAL ANTHEM. —The follow-
ing additional verses to the National Anthem are
in an eighteenth century MS. in the British Museum
(Additional 33351) :—
Fame let thy trumpet sound,
Tell all the world around
Great George is King.
Tell Rome and France and Spain
Britannia scorns their chain
All their vile arts are vain
Great George is King.
May Heav'n his life defend,
And make his race extend
Wide as his fame ;
Thy choicest blessings shed
On his devoted head,
And teach his foes to dread
Great George's name.
He peace and plenty brings,
While Rome's deluded Kings
Waste and destroy ;
Then let his people sing
Long live our gracious King,
From whom such blessings spring,
Freedom and joy.
God save our noble King,
Long live our gracious King,
God save the King.
Hark how the valleys ring-,
Long live our gracious King,
From whom such blessings spring,
God save the King.
The Latin version of the first two stanzas com-
monly sung may be seen in Julian's ' Dictionary of
Hymnology ' (art. "God save the King"), and in
my own 'History of English Music.' There can
be little doubt that the tune was really sung to
these Latin words in the Chapel Koyal of James II.,
which was the received opinion when the piece first
came into notice in 1745 (see Benjamin Victor's
' Letters to Garrick '). If so, the composer of the
tune was almost certainly Purcell ; but a claim has
been set up for Anthony Young, organist of All-
hallows, Barking, and grandfather of Mrs. Arne.
H. DAVBT.
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"THE CLASSES AND THE MASSES." — Mr. Glad
stone is generally credited with being the author
of this famous phrase ; but Mr. E. Craigie, in the
Daily Telegraph, ascribes it to Tom Moore, who
writes thus in * The Fudges in England,' Letter 4
Too true it is she 's bitten sadly
With this new rage for rhyming badly.
Which late hath seized all ranks and classes,
Down to that new estate, " the Masses."
Mus RUSTICUS,
THE STONEHENGE BIRD. — I copy the following
interesting narrative from ' Ars Quatuor Corona-
torum/ vol. vii. p. 189 (1894) :—
"Whilst we were all assembled upon or near the
Altar-stone, on Thursday, at daybreak of the 21st June,
our attention was eagerly fixed upon the spot where the
sun was momentarily expected to rise, a bird suddenly
alighted on the point of the Gnomon ; at such a moment
the most trivial incident was subject for conversation,
one brother remarking that the bird had the advantage
of us from its exalted elevation, and possibly it had come
to see the sun rise over the distant horizon ; another
saying that it would hinder the view of the first or
extreme point of rising ; after which some slight discus-
sion followed as to whether it was a starling or a sparrow.
However, it presently flew away, and the next moment
we were gratified to see our majestic source of light rise
directly over the point like a glorious disc of burnished
copper, and amidst the general admiration of so grand a
sight the small talk about the poor little bird was utterly
forgotten. But much to the surprise of those who
formed that advanced or * sunrise ' party, while enjoying
the dessert and a cigar after dinner on the evening of
the 22nd, Brother Piper of Ledbury, a learned antiquary
and geologist, who had only joined our party during the
day, said, ' And pray, brethren, did any of you by any
chance happen to notice if a bird alighted on the
Gnomon stone shortly before sunrise ? ' The few of us
who had noted the apparently trivial incident of the
morning looked most curiously at each other, and replied
that we had, and that after furnishing us with some
small talk it flew away the moment before the sun rose
upon our line of sight, and we eagerly enquired of our
genial and distinguished brother what bearing the case
of our poor little bird had upon the subject. He replied
' Well, brethren, I cannot vouch for its accuracy, but an
old legend runs that immediately before your great event
on the longest day a bird perches upon that stone until
it sees the sun rise over the brow of the distant hill, and
then flies away, and throughout the whole of the rest of
the year no bird is ever known to alight upon that stone.
We were mightily interested with his strange statement,
but as none of us live upon Salisbury Plain, and seldom
visit it, we have no means of verifying it. As an
interesting bit of folk-lore it has been deeply impressed
upon our minds. — C. B. FEBRY."
ST. SWITHIN.
LETTER-PAPER HEADING. — The following is the
most extraordinary instance of note-paper heading
which has ever come under my notice. A noto-
rious trade swindler, who received a sentence of
twelve months' imprisonment in 1895 for offences
against the Bankruptcy Act, has just, it is reported,
been again committed for trial for obtaining credit
without disclosing the fact of his continued bank-
ruptcy, this time on seven charges. The prisoner
pleaded before the magistrates that he placed
" C.B.U." on his paper, alleging boldly that this
signified " Court of Bankruptcy, Undischarged."
A sheet of this paper addressed to clients of mine
is before me, and above the " C.B.U." is, to round
the inscription off, " Non Nobis Domine " in bold
type. This seems to me to be worthy of a niche
in ' N. & Q.' W. H. QUARRELL.
" BUSLET." — Presuming that when a new word,
like a new planet, sails into our ken it should
forthwith be noted in *N. & Q./ I venture to send
you a passage from the Daily News containing a
diminutive that I, for my part, have not seen
before. The passage goes : —
" I see, by the way, that the stuffy and inconvenient
buslets which until the other day plied between Black-
frairs Bridge and Farringdon Street Station have been
supplemented by a most excellent service of airy full-
sized omnibuses."
The word seems one likely to " take on." It is
short, expressive, and formed on the analogy of
well-known diminutives. Does it herald, I wonder,
the appearance of " omnibuslet," which would
seem to be the natural alternation for those who
object to the use of slang abbreviations ?
T. P. ARMSTRONG.
' ' WARTA " = WORK - DAT. — In the neighbour-
hood of Leeds the word "work-day," i. e., wark-
day, takes the form of warta, as in the sentence,
" Sunda and warta are all t' same to thee." The
complete loss of the guttural in both parts of the
word and the use of t for d are interesting.
S. 0. ADDY.
LORD BEACONSFIELD. — The following letter may
perhaps be thought fit for a place in ' N. & Q.,'
that it may not pass away, with the common for-
tune of the fugitive literature of local journalism :
" Our contemporary, the Somerset County Gazette, has
a most interesting letter (hitherto unpublished) from the
late Lord Beaconsfield. It was addressed to Mr. F. G.
Heath, author of the ' Fern Paradise ' and other similar
works, and was recently found among the papers of the
late Mr. Arthur Kinglake, of Taunton. The letter,
which is written on mourning paper, in a remarkably
clear and neat hand, and is dated from Hughenden
Manor, December 28, 1880, is as follows :—
" ' DEAR SIR,— I thank you for your new volume. Your
life is occupied with two subjects which always deeply
interest me — the condition of our Peasantry and Trees.
Having had some knowledge of the West of England 5
and 20 years ago, I am persuaded of the general
accuracy of your reports, both of their previous, and
bheir present condition. You must remember, however,
that the condition of the British peasant has, at all times,
much varied in different parts of the country. Those of
this district are well to do. Their wages have risen forty
per cent, in my time, and their habitations are wonder-
lully improved. Again, the agricultural population of the
Morth of England, the hinds of Northumberland and the
contiguous counties, were always in great advance of the
Southern Peasantry, and with all our improvements,
continue so. With regard to your being informed that,
n many parts of the West of England, the peasantry are
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now starving, I should recommend you to be very strict
in your investigations before you adopt that statement.
Where is this? And how, with our present law, could
this occur 1 With regard to Trees, I passed part of my
youth in the shade of Burnham Beeches, and have now
the happiness of living amid my own green retreats ! I
am not surprised that the ancients worshipped Trees.
Lakes, and mountains, however glorious for a time, in
time weary — Sylvan scenery never palls. — Yours faith-
fully, BEACONSFIELD.' " — Bath Chronicle, 25 March, p, 5.
ED. MARSHALL.
PRONUNCIATION AND THE 'NEW ENGLISH
DICTIONARY.' — I do not know on what principle
the 'New English Dictionary ' deals with this tick-
lish and shifting subject ; that is to say, whether
it does or does not frankly recognize the fact that
very many English words are pronounced, and
legitimately may be pronounced, in two different
ways ; or, to put it otherwise, that in the case of
a large number of words the pronunciation is
optional.
It is well known that in the case of all languages
which are really living and growing the pro-
nunciation of certain words is at certain times in
a state of transition, and that during such state of
transition their pronunciation is optional. A very
few examples will suffice to illustrate this : calibre
or calibre, contemplate or contemplate, demonstrate
or demonstrate, Extirpate or extirpate ; and so on.
In the cases of all such words the transition process
is not yet complete, and therefore their pronuncia-
tion is still quite optional ; and it seems to me
that a good dictionary should frankly note this
fact in each such case.
A curious example of uncertainty in consonantal
pronunciation is afforded by the word pharma-
ceutical, in the case of which some persons hold
that the first c should be soft, like an s ; others
that it should be hard, like a /j. In a well-known
case pending before him in 1854, Lord Campbell,
after some discussion on the point, ruled that the
c should be soft. Well, lawyers are not linguists,
and have no authority to " rule " such a point as
this ; and I venture to think that most experts in
language will dissent from his lordship's ruling.
In the case of at least one word I learn that the
* New English Dictionary ' has lent its authority
to a pronunciation which seems to me absolutely
unwarrantable. I refer to the word ensilage, in
which I believe the i is marked short — a most
unprofitable departure from the pronunciation sug-
gested by the origin of the word, viz., iv and o-tpos
(i long), a pit ; Latin sirus ; the r being changed to
I for euphony. Of course, English words often
refuse to follow the pronunciation indicated by their
sources ; and in such matters custom is supreme,
since even error, if customary, prevails— com-
munis error facit jus. But such deviation is
usually the result of lapse of time, since time is
necessary to the growth of custom ; and in the case
of so new a word as ensilage there is no excuse for
such a deviation. Moreover we have also the
simple word silage, meaning the same thing. Is
that to be pronounced with the i short — silage ?
It is curious to observe the tendency to change
in the pronunciation of names of places. Of this
I will give only two examples. Trafalgar would
seem to have been originally pronounced with the
stress on the last syllable — Trafalgar. Thus, in
the Prologue to * Marmion ': —
Nor mourn ye less his perished worth
Who bade the conqueror go forth.
And launched that thunderbolt of war
On Egypt, Hafnia, Trafalgar.
Again, in 'Childe Harold,' iv. 181 :—
Oft did he mark the scenes of vanished war,
Actium, Lepanto, fatal Trafalgar.
Also, in ' Don Juan,' i. 4 : —
Nelson was once Britannia's god of war,
And still should be so, but the tide is turned,
There 's no more to be said of Trafalgar.
By the way, Byron blundered over the word
Lepanto, in which the stress falls on the first
syllable, and it is, or ought to be, pronounced
Lepanto.
My other example is the word Niagara, which
apparently was once pronounced Niagara, as in
Goldsmith's 'Traveller':—
Where wild Oswego spreads her swamps around,
And Niagara stuns with thundering sound.
PATRICK MAXWELL.
Bath
POPE'S VILLA, TWICKENHAM.— The Daily News
" Some doubt having for many years existed as to
the exact site occupied by Pope's house at Twickenham,
the discovery of a large and deeply carved stone over
one of the entrances to Mr. Labouchere's residence
forms an interesting addition to the history of Pope's
Villa. Alterations are taking place at the house, and
the stone mentioned, having been freed from a thick
coating of concrete, reveals the following inscription :
1 On this spot stood until 1809 the house of Alexander
Pope. The grotto that formed the basement still
remains. 1848.'"
J. 0. F.
DOG Eow, MILE END. — To many readers of
'N. & Q.' who are familiar with the topography
of the East-end of London this name may be
known. For those who are unacquainted there-
with, I may say that, some forty or fifty years ago,
it was the name of a road running from Mile End
Gate to the point where Bethnal Green Road
begins. It ran by the famous " Bednal Green," of
which a poet has sung, and on which a wealthy
citizen, John Kirby, erected a house known in
history as " Kirby's Castle." This will explain its
situation. About the period I have named above,
the name of the road was altered to Cambridge
Koad, or Cambridge New Koad, as one writer has
it ; but, the change notwithstanding, the old name,
Dog Kow, was for many years and is even to
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the present day among the older inhabitants, the
popular appellation. On several occasions the
question of the origin of the name has been sug-
gested to me ; but, notwithstanding I have en-
deavoured to account for it, so far my attempts
have not been successful. The earliest trace of the
row so far discovered is in ' A New View of Lon-
don ' (1708), where, among a list of streets, &c., is,
" Dog Row, at end of Whitechapel, Str. leading
to Bednal Green." From the date of this volume
it will be seen the name is old in the locality.
Mr. George Rose Emerson, in his volume entitled
* London : how the Great City grew,' in a chapter
on the growth of Bethnal Green and the adjacent
district, says that —
" la a map published in 1777, the road to Mile End,
by way of Dog Bow (now Cambridge Heath Road) and
Bed Cow Lane, is marked as a lane between fields, and
there are no indications of a house between the end of
Crabtree Lane, in the Hackney Boad, and Bethnal
Green."
So much Mr. Emerson informs me ; but there is
nothing to explain the origin of the name, which
is the real object in view. One story, however, I
have heard, which if true would probably account
for the name ; but unfortunately there is no corro-
boration. According to this, there existed many
years ago, on the spot where the row runs through,
a dog-market, or something of the kind, where
persons with canine predilections foregathered with
a view to business. My informant, a lady, derived
this item of information from a little book — chap-
book, presumably — which she remembers seeing
some years ago, when she was a child, and in this
it was stated that formerly the place was a dog
market, and from this was derived the name then
borne by the row. Unfortunately this is all she
recollects concerning the book, which was sup-
posed to have been sold in the locality. If this
story will bear confirmation it may settle the
etymology ; but it will be curious to find another
market associated with the district — the East-end
bird market is, of course, well known. But here
I am reminded of something. The bird market,
Olub Row, as it is called, is not confined to the
business of bird-dealing. A short time since,
when walking along the main road, I observed
quite a dozen of men, several of whom had two or
three dogs in their charge ; in short, they were
holding a sort of market of their own — history
seemed to be repeating itself.
Now I should be glad if any of your antiquarian
readers can clear up the origin of Dog Row. At
the same time, it might be well to give the definite
period at which the name was changed to Cam-
bridge Road. On this point there is not much
clearness. In Elmes's * Topographical Dictionary
of London and its Environs I find, "Dog Row
......now called Cambridge New Road." From
this it would seem the change was some time about
1831 — the date of Elmes's publication. Yet in a
plan of London and its environs, drawn and
engraved for Lewis's * Topographical Dictionary,'
and dated 1 Jan., 1840, the name Dog Row is
given, but nothing is seen of Cambridge Road.
Apparently somebody was behind the times.
0. P. HALE.
LADY HAMILTON. — In reading the review of
'The Life of Nelson,' by Capt. A. T. Mahan, in
the Daily Telegraph of Friday, 9 April, I find the
reviewer does full justice to the patriotic spirit of
this lady and the stimulus she gave to the natural
courage and devotion of Nelson, and says there are
few English-born women to whom our country
owes more. In this view he takes the standard
historic version of the part played by Lady Hamil-
ton in the history of England and of Nelson in the
latter part of the last century. But not long ago,
in looking up the name of Lady Hamilton in the
'Dictionary of National Biography,' I was aston-
ished to find that there is a total misconception
generally as to the services she rendered to Eng-
land ; that the inducing the King of Naples to give
orders for the victualling the English fleet at
Syracuse just before the battle of the Nile and the
other occasion — I forget what it was, but both are
mentioned by Nelson in his letter on the eve of the
battle of Trafalgar — are pure fabrications. So many
things now are turned topsy-turvy in history, that it
would be very satisfactory to know which is the
real version in this case. J. B.
FRENCH PSALTER, 1513. — The great rarity of
this Psalter induces me to offer a note upon it.
The title, in red, is as follows : —
"Icy commence lePsaul | tierdeDauidcontenawt | cent
et cinquante pseaul | mes auecq leura titres le | allement
translate de la | tin en franchois."
The colophon is as follows : —
" Pinit le psaultier de Dauid. Deo gratias. Impressum
Parrhiis Anno dom'ni Millesimo quingewtesimo decimo-
tertio mensis Julii die penultima. Per Thomam Kees
Wesaliensem et moram trahente?w. post Carmelitas in
domo rubea. Et venu%da«,tur in civitate Tornacensi."
Letters in italic omitted in the original. Signa-
tures are in quaternions, ending with N. ii. The
literary style may be illustrated from the first
Psalm.
" Et sera comme le boys ou labre [sic] qui est plante
empres les decours des yawes/ le quel donra son fruict
en son temps. Et sa foeilie ne decherra point."
My copy once belonged to the Parisian Oratory,
and was probably stolen thence in the Revolution.
[ purchased it thirty years ago at a pawnbroker's
in Bishopsgate Street. Thomas Kees, of " Wesalia,"
s unknown to me, except as the printer of this
duodecimo. RICHARD H. THORNTON.
Portland, Oregon.
VERSION OF EPITAPH. — In Minster Churchyard,
co. Kent, is the following variant on the well-
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known lines. The words are cut on a stone which
marks the resting-place of a member of the Doughty
family :—
Affliction sore long time he bore,
And medicine proved in vain ;
He with a Christian courage did resign
Himself to God at his appointed time.
FRANK WHITE.
We must request correspondents desiring information
on family matters of only private interest to affix their
names and addresses to their queries, in order that the
answers may be addressed to them direct.
SIR EDWARD LITTLETON, KNT., 1645. — Can
any of your readers give me information re-
garding Sir Edward Littleton, Knt., who was
buried at St. Sepulchre's, Northampton, 19 June,
1645 ? The entry of his burial occurs in the midst
of a long list of soldiers who were doubtless wounded
at Naseby fight, and brought to Northampton to
die. A Lieut. 'Col. Littleton, of Lyle's Regiment,
was taken prisoner at Naseby by the Parlia-
mentarians, but his Christian name is not given.
Can any one tell me whether he and Sir Edward
Littleton are identical ; and, if so, to which branch
of the Littleton family he belonged ?
R. M. SERJEANTSON.
St, Sepulchre's, Northampton.
"LITTLE DICK OF BELLE VUE." — I have a
plaster figure, twelve inches high, much discoloured
and otherwise damaged by time and ill-usage,
representing an old man in loose trousers and red
waistcoat, his shirt-sleeves turned up and his hair
tied in a queue, with a shoe on one hand and a
brush in the other. The face expresses much
shrewdness as well as good temper. On the stand
is inscribed, "Little Dick of Belle Vue, Chelten
ham, 1st Dec. 1821." As the original was probably
" a character," it is likely that some allusion to
him would be found in the local press of his day.
Can any West Country reader oblige me with
further particulars ? W. B. P.
Brixton, S.W.
ILLUSTRATED EDITION OP TOURGENIEFP. — Is
there any illustrated edition of Tourgenieff 7s books ?
[ want more particularly the French translation
* Recits d'un Chasseur,' and require the book for
artistic purposes, with views of Russian scenery
and costume. B. FLORENCE SCARLETT. '
HASELDEN. — Where can I obtain particulars of
Thomas Haselden, who had the Manors of Steeple
Morden and Gilden Morden, co. Cambridge, temp.
lichard II. ? Are his arms known ? E. J. H,
79, Wright Street, Hull,
PEN-AND-INK DRAWING.— I should be glad if
any one could give me information as to a small
oval portrait of Charles II. in my possession, sur-
rounded by an ornamental initial C with very fine
scrollwork, the whole apparently done in pen and
ink, and enclosed in a framework of lines drawn
in red ink. M. M. WRIGLET.
East Burnham House, near Slough, Bucks.
SEAL OF CORPORATION OF SLIGO. — Is it possible
to obtain a description of the seal of the Corpora-
tion of Sligo, struck in 1709, and mentioned on
p. 45 'History of Sligo County and Town,' by
Col. Wood Martin ? F. DE B.
Guernsey.
"DuDDERY." — This I find engraved on an
English country gentleman's note-paper to signify
the name of his estate. What is the particular
local accepted meaning of the word in England^?
I ask because in this part of the world duddery is
generally understood to mean a dumping-place for
rubbish— an old definition, undoubtedly, going
back to doughty Capt. John Endicott, who,
with his followers, all from " merrie England,"
including himself, settled Salem in 1628.
MERRIMAC.
Salem, U.S.
THE VERNONS OF HADDON. — I should be glad
of any information of the lords of Haddon between
1195 and 1377. When did Sir Richard Vernon,
who died in this latter year, succeed to the estates ?
What are the correct dates of the deaths of the
two Sir Henry Vernons, grandfather and father
respectively of the " King of the Peak " 1 The
father seems to have been an obscure person, and
the date of the first Sir Henry's death is often
given as that of the accession of Sir George Vernon.
F. H. C.
WALSINGHAMS. — Can any one tell me whether a
portrait of any kind exists of Sir Edmund Wal-
singham, who was Lieutenant of the Tower for
twenty-two years during the reign of Henry VIII.
or of any of the Thomas Walsinghams of Scadbury,
Chislehurst, who succeeded him ? I know of
several portraits of Sir Francis Walsingham, the
secretary to Queen Elizabeth. E. A. WEBB.
HERALDIC.— Can any one say whose arms are
Or, a chevron azure between three fleurs-de-lis
gules, used as an impalement ? A. V. E.
SILVER PLATE.— Can any one inform me as to
the whereabouts of a silver plate of Roman work-
manship, dug up in the last century at Risely Hall,
Derbyshire] It was broken to pieces, and the
remains were in the possession of Lady Aston, of
Aston Hall, Cheshire, when the antiquary W.
Stukeley published a plate of it with a descrip
tion in 1729. A copy of this dissertation and an
engraving, with MS. note by the Abbe" de la Rue,
is in the British Museum. The plate had been large,
decorated with rustic spenes in solid relief, and
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had at the back the inscription " Exsuperius Epis-
copus Ecclesiae Bogiensi dedit." It is this
inscription which makes the importance of the
plate. The family of Aston died out in 1815, but
descendants of the last baronet's daughters are
presumably to be found, and they may still be in
possession of the fragments.
JOHN CHAPMAN, O.S.B.
AUTHOR OP FABLE. — Can any of your readers
kindly tell me if the fable of ' An Old Woman
and her Maids ' occurs in Gay's or ^Esop's ' Fables,'
as I wish to trace it, and cannot ascertain ? The
cock wakes the girls every morning, to their
disgust, so they kill it ; when the old woman her-
self calls them earlier than ever. F. B. D.
Babbaoombe.
It is not in Gay.]
FRENCH SONG. — Can any of your readers help
me to trace the origin of a French song mentioned
in ' Oinq-Mars,' by A, de Vigny (vol. ii. oh. xxiii.
ad fin.)? It is described as an old song of the
League, and begins "Reprenons la danse." It
alludes to the "rois de la feve," or bean-kings,
who owed their dignity to the bean in the Twelfth
Night cake. A certain Jean du Mayne is apostro-
phized, about whom I should also like some
information. G. G. L.
JUDGE DAVIS or CORNWALL.— Would you or
any of your subscribers give me some information
about Judge Davis of Cornwall? I believe he
lived about the end of last century. OBLIGED.
HAYDON'S DIARIES.— I should feel greatly
obliged by any information respecting the manu-
scripts of B. R. Haydon's diaries and autobiography.
I much fear they have been destroyed. The extracts
that appeared in Mr. T. Taylor's ' Life ' were natur-
ally curtailed. These manuscripts appear to have
been last in the hands of Mr. Frank Haydon.
R. E. LOPPT.
ST. DUNSTAN.— Mr. Wakeman, in his recent
* History of the Church of England,' p. 67, makes
Dunstan retire "to a humble cell near Win-
chester." What is the authority for this state-
ment ? The ' Dictionary of National Biography '
appears to say Glastonbury. S. G. D.
MARRIAGE CUSTOM. — Why does the bride-
groom wait at the church for the arrival of the
bride ?^ Is it a conscious protest against the
;< marriage by capture " notion, which so many
details in (for example) the old Roman marriage
customs tended to perpetuate ? And from what
time does the custom date ? G. G. L.
West Kensington.
NOBLEMEN'S DOOR-PLATES.— Was it at one time
the general fashion for the nobility residing in
London to have their names on brass plates
attache^ to their street doors ? Has this subject
been commented on in any of the numerous works
about the metropolis, or referred to in the diaries
of celebrated people? There were until recently
still two persons who had such door-plates — the
Earl of Warwick, Berwick House, Stable Yard,
St. James's Palace, and the Earl of Powis, 45,
Berkeley Square ; but the doorrplate on the former
residence was taken off during some alterations
which were made in 1895.
GEORGE 0. BOASE.
36, James Street, Buckingham Gate, S.W.
THE SPANISH ARMADA. — In Mr. G. H. F. Nye's
' Popular Story of the Church of England ' (I am
quoting from the penny edition issued last year),
on p. 43, it is stated, on the authority of Maitland's
' History of London/ that the *' great white banner
specially blessed by the Pope upon the shores of
Spain before the fleet sailed for many a year lay in
the dust of the Tower of London." A foot-note
states that the Keeper of the Armoury informed
Mr. Nye that the banner is no longer in his cus-
tody. Is anything known of what became of it ? I
have no opportunity to refer to Maitland ; perhaps
some one will look it up and let your readers know
exactly what he says. D. M. R.
ALLHALLOWS = HOLT TRINITY. — When a church
is said to be dedicated to Allhallows, should it be
considered to mean the Holy Trinity, and not All
Saints, as generally thought 1 When a visitation
was made of Lydd Church, in Kent, by order of
Archbishop Warham, in 1511, it was said " they
lack a principal image of Alhalowen " and the Com-
missary ordered the churchwardens to provide an
image of the Holy Trinity, to whose honour the
church was dedicated. Lydd Church in modern
books is said to be dedicated to All Saints.
ARTHUR HUSSEY
Wingham, Kent.
POST RING. — Where is the interesting ring,
found at Colyton, Devon, with the posy,
Esteeme Vertue more then gould," which was in
1870 in the possession of the late Sir William Tite ?
T. CANN HUGHES, M.A.
Lancaster,
LORD BOWEN. — I shall be much obliged if any
one will kindly refer me to the issues of the Times
newspaper in 1892 which contained the two articles
by Lord Bowen on legal reform. The articles
were based on the report made in that year by the
Council of Judges to the Crown on that subject.
G. S. FORBES.
Madras.
PARISH OP STEPNET. — The prospective publica-
tion of the registers of the parish of Stepney
reminds me of two queries which I have long
wished to make. The first is whether, and, if so,
why, children born on the high seas are supposed
to belong to the parish of Stepney, The other
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is, How did the title of Baron of Stepney come
to be attached to John, second Baron Gower, in
1723 1 A. T. M.
ROMAN STEELYARDS. — Are there more than
two of these in the British Museum ? On 8 Feb.,
1848, Mr. Neale exhibited one to the British
Archaeological Association, and another was shown
by the late Mr. Frederic Ouvry to the Society of
Antiquaries on 27 Nov., 1870. The latter was
then in the custody of the Rev. Arthur Bruce
Fraser, of Haversham, near Newport Pagnell,
Bucks. Are these now preserved in any public
collection? T. OANN HUGHES, M.A.
FIRST SHIP NAMED.— What is the earliest
record in history of a ship bearing a name ?
EVERARD HOME COLEMAN.
[Qy. the Ark or the Argo?]
SWINTON. — May I ask you to do me the favour
of informing me if there are any ancient historical
portraits of the Swinton who married Marjory or
Margaret Stewart, daughter of King Robert Bruce,
and also of Sir John Swinton who lived in the
time of Cromwell ? E. A. WHITE.
ALLAN BLAYNET, M.A.— He was of Queen's
College, Oxford, and author of ' Festorum Metro-
polis,' London, 1654. What is known of him and
his career ? I have before me a copy of the
" second edition refined," 1654 ; but Lowndes, in
his ' Bibliographer's Manual/ says there is but one
copy known to be extant, and that in the British
Museum. Allibone names the book, but furnishes
no account of the author. T. H. M.
Philadelphia.
ST. PAUL'S PAROCHIAL SOCIETY. — Where can
I find a list of officers? Any information will
oblige. A. 0. H.
CHILDREN OF SIR HENRY PERCY. — According
to Tate's ' History of Alnwick,' i. 198, the children
of Sir Henry Percy, stated in a foot-note to be
descendants of Sir Ralph Percy, who was slain at
Hedgeley Moor in 1464, are mentioned in the will
of the fourth Earl of Northumberland. Also in
Hodgson's * History of Northumberland ' Sir
Elenry Widdrington is stated to have married,
in 1492, Margery, daughter of Sir Henry Percy,
eldest son of Sir Ralph Percy, who was son of
Henry, second Earl of Northumberland. This Sir
Ralph was the one killed at Hedgeley Moor. On the
other hand, in Fonblanque's * Annals of the House
of Percy,' the pedigree states that Sir Ralph who
was slain at Hedgeley Moor died unmarried. The
»ame statement appears in the 'Dictionary of
National Biography.' These statements being
entirely contradictory, I should be glad if any of
your readers would kindly give me any evidence
as to which is correct. J. V. G.
Newcastle-on-Tyne.
VIRGIL'S EPITAPH.
(8th S. xi. 188.)
Donatus, in his ' Vita Vergilii ' (p. 43), gives the
well-known lines in the orthodox manner, as MB.
TERRY inevitably reproduces them. The render-
ing of duces by K. V. Coote as "shepherds"
instead of "heroes" is obviously ridiculous, and
needs no further comment, but the quotation from
his article contains statements regarding the
supposed urn and nine truly suspicious little pillars
supporting it which invite more serious considera-
tion. Not only do these statements occur in the article
in question as matters of fact, but they have become
the traditional " properties " of the most prominent
English guide-books, whence, doubtless, Mr. Coote
might be proven to have directly derived his in-
formation. But I shall hope to show that even as
there has developed a legendary literature around
the name of Virgil, so we are here in the thick of
a similar literature concerning his tomb and its
appurtenances, if the familiar Columbarium at
Pozzuoli be indeed that august monument. This un-
certainty with regard to it, as has often been pointed
out, must continue until we can determine with some
scientific accuracy the position of the second mile-
stone from ancient Naples (Palepolis), on the road
to Puteoli. "Ossa ejus Neapolim translata sunt,
tumuloque condita, qui est via Puteolana infra
lapidem secundum."
Now, as Mr. Coote records "the nine little
pillars," I thought I would turn to Murray, and see
if Albemarle Street could have given warrant for
the statement. Surely enough it is there. I then
turned to Mr. Hare's ' Southern Italy,' and again
I was not to be disappointed. The pillars — one
for each muse, so very thoughtfully ! — were all
safe so far ; but there occurred the further addition
that a date was given. Mr. Hare states, somewhat
venturously, thatVillani, in his 'Cronace di Napoli,'
described the epitaph as existing in 1526. Further,
there appeared the story of King Robert the Wise
removing the urn and pillars from the tomb and
depositing them for safety in Castel Nuovo in the
year 1326. So far Mr. Hare. It was now time
to go back a generation, and see what Chetwode
Eustace had written in his * Classical Tour.1 This
is what I found : —
"An Italian author, I think Pietro di Stefano, assures
us that he himself had seen, about the year 1526, the
urn supposed to contain the poet's ashes, standing in
the middle of the sepulchre supported by nine little
pillars, with the inscription quoted above. He adds
that Robert of Anjou, apprehensive lest such a precious
relic should be carried off or destroyed during the
wars then raging in the kingdom (which, by the way,
they were not doing), took the urn and pillars from the
tomb, and deposited them in the Castel Nuovo."
Now, if Pietro di Stefano assured us that he
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himself had seen these objects about 1526, it
would, of course, follow that they had either been
returned from their legendary sojourn at Oastel
Nuovo to the Columbarium, or that replicas had
been produced and taken their place. Unfortunately,
Eustace had mixed up a great many matters in his
mind when he penned that uncertain and fateful
paragraph.
Pietro di Stefano published his volume *De-
scrittione dei Luogi/ &c., at Naples in 1560. In
it, however, he merely says (p. 8) : "I have seen
the urn and the verses inscribed, but not the ashes."
Not one word occurs concerningthe nine little pillars.
But why had Eustace got the date 1526 into his
head ? Why had Mr. Hare got the same date on
to his page ? Most probably because the so-called
and spurious Villani ' Chronicle of Naples ; was
published in that very year. But let me continue
with Eustace : —
' This extreme precaution had an effect very different
from that intended (by King Robert) and occasioned the
loss it was meant to prevent. For, notwithstanding the
most laborious search and the frequent inquiries made
by the orders of Alphonso of Aragon, they were never
more discovered."
^ Now Alphonso (the Magnanimous) had become
King of Naples in the latter half of the fifteenth
century. If he failed to find the urn and pillars,
and they were never more discovered, how could
Pietro di Stefano, or any one else, have seen them
in 1526 ? Clearly, therefore, Pietro di Stefano did
not see them, and we may dismiss him for a
moment, and King Robert, and turn to the Villani
* Chronicle.'
Now this so-called Chronicle' of Villani, the
Neapolitan, is a much misunderstood work. The
name Villani in connexion with it is absolutely a
fraud committed upon the renowned Florentine
chroniclers of the fourteenth century. Some patriotic
Apulians, and notably a certain Bartolommeo Carac-
ciolo^late in that century extracted from those
chroniclers passages which dealt with Apulian
affairs, added ingredients of their own, and formed
the unreliable literary melange known to us as
the ' Chronicle of Parthenope.' It was first printed
before the close of the fifteenth century. In 1526
however, a certain Leonardo Astrino was charged
by friends (his own vanity chief among them) to
make a second edition of these writings, and this
is how he operated : —
" He divided the work into three books, and rejected
leveral chapters belonging to the first edition, while
rbitrarily interpolating new matter and other readings
The Chronicle, thus embellished, lost its original
features, and took the form under which it is now
generally known, which has given rise to so manv
erroneous notions concerning the author and his epoch "
—B. Capasso, ' Le fonti della Storia delle Province
Napohtane,' Arch. Storico. JSapol., 1876, fasc. iv.
Astrino, by the way, affectionately calls his mythical
author '"generosissimo Messere Johanne
and the fraudulent chronicle, " una nobilissima et
vera antiqua cronica " ! (More Neapolitano /)
But — alas for Mr. Eustace and Mr. Hare ! — the
said Chronicle happens to say not a word, false or
true, concerning the nine little pillars, but entirely
ignores their existence. Nor do any of the veritable
Florentine Villani mention them. The works of
Petrarch and Boccaccio, both of whom visited the
so-called " tomb of Virgil " (not, by the way, as De
Sade wrote, in company of King Robert, but only
with literary friends), are perversely silent ; the
archives of Naples are likewise silent ; but perhaps
their respective discretion, like that of Baal, is
golden.
At the same time the fact is undeniable that
from the days of these poets onwards there has
been manifested unbroken, if spasmodic, archaeo-
logical and commemorative alacrity at work both
within and without the monument, and much even
of this has, perhaps, escaped chronicle. G. Pontano,
who died in 1503, certainly mentions the urn,
perhaps only metaphorically for the marble slab
mentioned in the original 'Cronica di Parthenope,'
"lo quale marmore fo sano al tempo delli anni
MCCCXXVI. " He makes no allusion to any pillars.
But how did the pillar story get into Eustace ?
Eustace had looked into several Neapolitan works
dealing with Pozzuoli and the * Bagni.' The
passage quoted from him, however, shows he
was quite indeterminate as to whether he had
seen about the urn and pillars in Pietro di
Stefano or in another author. My humble belief
is that what he had seen was the following, from
{Sito e Antichita della Citta di Pozzuoli,' by
Scipione Mazzella, 1606, which describes how
Mazzella, together with his friends Jeronimo
Colonna and Paolo Portarella (" persone di gran
giudicio e sapere"), visited the spot, and what
they saw : —
" Within it were niches where statuettes might stand.
In the midst was a pedestal of marble with four little
columns of the same white marble, which upheld an
urn on which were incised these verses — * Mantua,' &c."
There was, then, before the close of the sixteenth
century, an urn and four columns in the tomb, of
which no trace now remains. Nor were they
referred to as being therein by any writer in the
last century. That they were placed there by some
humanistic enthusiast during the sixteenth century,
and carried off a little later in the form of souvenirs,
might be impossible, even if worth while, to prove,
but it is well within the area of probability. At
any rate, Pseudo-Villani tells us nothing, Stefano
tells us only a little about the urn. Mazzella
alone tells us a few apparently reliable details as
to the urn and columns. But observe, in the 1594
edition of his work he plainly says, not that he saw
the urn and columns, but that " not many years ago
one might have seen a fine pedestal of marble with
four white marble columns in the midst of the tomb
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which adorned the place. Bat all the marbles have
been taken away owing to the greediness of man-
kind " (" tolti via per ingordigia de li huomini").
Since writing the above I think I have found
out whence Eustace derived the information, about
which, as he shows us, he was somewhat hazy. If
I am right in my conjecture, it was from the follow-
ing passage in J. C. Capaccio's 'Historia Puteo-
lana/ 1604 — that is, nearly half a century later than
Di Stefano : —
"Alfonso Heredia (otherwise Ferraro), Bishop of
Ariano, and a man of culture in hia time, related that
there had been an urn in the tomb, sustained by nine
columns. Pietro di Stefano, who eleven (?) years ago
published a work on the churches of Naples, writes that
he had seen the marble urn with the distich mentioned
by Donatua."
And now comes the source of the other legendary
gossip handed on for us by Eustace and the guide-
books : —
"Joannes tamen Villanus, cum cineribus Mantuania
petentibus, Neapolitanos concessisse assent. Inepti sane
fuissent. Aliqui Longobardos Canonicos sustulisse fatentur.
Ideinque Episcopus affirrnabat Urnam, columnas, et
parva quaedam simulacra, a Cardinali Mantuano, Carioni-
corurn patrono, ablata ab eodemque Genuas relicta, cum
ibi in itinere obiisset. Quod si aut Genuae aut Mantuaa
tanti viri reliquiae esaent, quo pacto ab earum ostentatione
abstinerent."
In justice, however, to Eustace, I should point
out that, after finishing with the Mantuan cardinal,
he says : —
" Of the urn and pillars no further mention is made,
Perhaps, indeed, they never existed. Their number and
size seem inconsistent with the plain and simple style
prevalent in the time of Augustus."
The above, then, may contribute to give readers
some slender notion of the Tartarean atmosphere
which hitherto has corrupted and aborted every
zreen thing in the shape of history, far and around
Parthenope the Beautiful.
ST. GLAIR BADDELET.
The query asks what authority there is for the
of metre in "rapuit tenet nunc," to which
he only reply can be, There is none of any possible
'alue. The many epitaphs of Virgil, as taken from
Burmann's ' Poetae Minores,' .can be seen in
leyne's * Virgil,' torn. i. pp. cxcii-v. First, there
ire "Eorundem duodecim scholasticorum Poetarum
Vpitaphia P. Virgilii Maronis, per tetrasticha "
I, ' Ep.,' 197). Then there follow (p. cxciv),
Item per disticha eorundem, ex argumento Vir-
liani distichi." The first of which in italics, to
stinguish it from the twelve in roman, which
ollow, is this : —
Mantua me genuit, Calabri rapuere ; tenet nunc
Parthenope : cecini pascua, rura, duces.
Jofman, 'Lex. Univ.,' in 1698, has the epitaph in
B proper form. ED. MARSHALL.
"he lines " Mantua me genuit," &c., are given
•onatus, in hia 'Life of Virgil' (c, xiv.)> as
composed by Virgil himself. But both Heyne and
Oonington consider that they did not proceed from
Virgil. Eibbeck gives them in the 'Life' pre-
fixed to his edition of Virgil (1867), but without
any opinion of his own in favour of their genuine*
ness. H.
"HA'PORTH OP TAR" (8th S. xi. 307).— In reply
to DR. MURRAY, the proverbial expression is
vastly older than 'The Happy Land,' a famous
political skit on Gladstone, Lowe, and Ayrton,
produced at the Court Theatre. My grandfather,
the editor of the Athenaeum, who died long before
that play appeared, was fond of the phrase in the
form " Spoiling the ship for a ha'porth of tar."
He and his father were both clerks in the Navy
Pay Department, and his father had been sent
from the Admiralty to live at Portsmouth during
the great war and pay off the ships there, which
points to the expression being nautical, not agri-
cultural. CHARLES W. DILKE.
Forty years ago I used to be told of a painter,
who, having been commissioned to paint a land-
scape, executed his commission to the satisfaction
of his patron, with the single omission of sheep
upon the hills. These, under the denomination of
ship, he was strongly urged to paint in ; and ships
under as strong protest, he accordingly did paint in.
There are variants of the proverb, with " pot of
paint" for "tar," and "house" or "work" for
" ship." The Rev. 0. A. Johns, in ' A Week at
the Lizard ' (S.P.C.K., 1848), p. 241, says : u Pol-
lack are often attracted round the boat by what
the fishermen call * smear'; that is. offal of fish
and bilge- water," &c. So here is another sheep
simile. THOMAS J. JEAKES.
Of. < Love's Labour's Lost,' II. i. 219 :—
Maria, Two hot sheepa, marry,
Boyet. And wherefore not ships ?
0. S. HARRIS.
" HANDICAP " (8th S. xi. 247, 270, 298).— In
the Appendix to 'The Jockey Club and its
Founders,' by Robert Black (Smith, Elder & Co.,
1891), there is a list of " Rules concerning Horse-
racing in General," as they appear in Pond's
' Kalendar,' published in 1751 ; and the fifth rule
deals with the subject of "A Handy-Cap Match."
The word " handy-cap," or " handicap," therefore,
evidently was used at that date in connexion with
horse-racing; and, as there is good reason to
suppose that Pond simply published rules which
had been in existence for some considerable time,
the word may occur very probably in Cheney's
' Calendar,' published from 1727 to 1750, and even
in a ' Calendar of Horse-racing ' said to have been
set up "by request" at Newmarket, as early as
1670, under the superintendence of a Mr. John
Nelson. A sight of Cheney's book DR. MURRAY
may be able, no doubt, to obtain, by the courtesy
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of Messrs. Weatherby or of somebody else ; but it
is a rare work and not very accessible, and Nelson's
appears to be quite impossible of attainment.
Having put DR. MURRAY on the scent, I can only
wish that he may have better luck than I had
when I was on a similar quest. R. R. B.
" TONGUE-BATTERIES " (8th S. xi. 266). — Burns's
expression has obviously a very different meaning
from either Shakespeare's or Milton's. Burgundy
ia vanquished by the eloquence of La Pucelle ;
Samson is seduced by the " blandish'd parlies " of
Dalila ; in each case the " battery " is a verbal
assault by one person upon another. Burns, how-
ever, means, or appears to mean, that he beat
himself up into an artificial passion for a woman.
There is no Shaksperian authority — or, at any rate,
MR. BAYNE produces none — for the word <( batter-
ing " in such a sense. But if Burns chose to use
this expression, I do not see why Stevenson should
not quote it.
For a Scot to find any fault in Burns is, of course,
a kind of high treason ; but even traitors have a
right to justice. It is not just to say, as MR.
BAYNE does, that " Stevenson apparently credits
Burns with being not only heartless, but coarse. "
Stevenson says expressly : " Burns was formed
for love ; he had passion, tenderness, and a singular
bent in the direction." And again (speaking of
the Jean Armour marriage) : ' ' Worldly Wiseman
would have laughed and gone his way ; let us
be glad that Burns was better counselled by his
heart. When we discover that we can be no longer
true, the next best is to be kind." He emphasizes
the warmth and sincerity of Burns's friendships,
and quotes with evident agreement the saying of
the mother of Highland Mary, that he was " a real
warm-hearted chield." That Stevenson " credits "
Burns with a vein of coarseness may be true. The
pity is that Burns was frequently coarse.
C. C. B.
EARLS OF DERWENTWATER (8th S. xi. 208, 275).
— The statement of MR. WARREN that the second
earl was named Francis, and not Edward, is itself
an error, though one founded on Sandford and
followed by almost all peerage writers, including
Mr. Doyle. That his name was Edward (not
Francis) is shown by his father's will, proved Oct.,
1698 ; by his own will, proved May, 1705 ; and by
the will of his brother Francis Radclyffe, dated
4 June, 1698, and proved Dec., 1705. The
matter is discussed in ' The Complete Peerage ' by
G. E. C. '
1. Sir Francis Radclyffe, the first Earl of Der-
wentwater, married Katherine, relict of Henry
Lawson, of Brough, co. York, and daughter and
coheir of Sir William Fenwick, of Meldon, co.
Northumberland, Knt., by Isabel his wife, sole
daughter and heir of Sir Arthur Gray, of Spindle-
stone, in the same county.
2. Francis Radclyffe, the second son of the above,
was born 5 Aug., 1657. Died unmarried. Buried
in the chapel at Dilston, 16 Oct., 1704. Will
dated 4 June, 1698; proved at London 5 Dec.,
1705.
3. Lady Mary Tudor, natural daughter of
Charles it, King of England, had three husbands :
(1) Edward Radclyffe, the second Earl of Derwent-
water, married 18 Aug., 1687. Died 29 April,
1705. (2) Henry Graham, of Levens, co. West-
morland, son and heir to Col, James Graham,
sometime Privy-Purse to King James II,, M.P.
for co. Westmorland, 1701. Died 7 Jan., 1706,
and was buried at St. James's, Westminster. (3)
James Rooke, son of Major-General (Heyman)
Rooke, of Islewortb, co. Middlesex. Married at
Twickenham, 26 Aug., 1707. He remarried at
St. Briavel's, co. Gloucester, 3 July, 1735, Jane,
daughter and heir of Tracy Catchnay, of Bigs wear,
in the same county. He died 16 June, and was
buried 18 June, 1773, at St. Briavel's. Adm.
granted 3 Feb., 1774.
4. The place of burial of James, the third earl,
is said to be the churchyard of St. Giles-in-the-
Fields, but in the ' View of the County of North-
umberland,' by E. Mackenzie, 1825, vol. ii. p. 339,
it states : —
"His lordship's last request to be buried with his
ancestors at Dilston was refused; but either a sham
funeral took place, or the corpse was afterwards removed ;
for it was certainly conveyed secretly from London, and
deposited in the family vault. From accident or design,
the coffin was broken open a few years ago, and the body
found, after the lapse of near a century, in a high state
of preservation. It was easily recognized by the suture
round the neck, by the openness of the countenance, and
by the regularity of the features."
See also < The Heirs of Dilston and Derwentwater,'
by S. S. Jones, 1869. JOHN RADCLIFFE.
MODERN FOLK-LORE : UMBRELLAS (8th S.
472).— I have heard in the North Riding of York-
shire that it is very unlucky to lay an umbrella
upon a bed, just as it is unlucky to put a pair of
bellows or a pair of shoes upon a table.
F. C. BIRKBECK TERRY.
An interesting, instructive, and suggestive
article is that of C. F. Gordon Gumming, * Pagodas,
Auricles, and Umbrellas/ in the June and July
numbers of the English Illustrated Magazine for
1888. THOMAS J. JEAKES.
PROVERB (8th S. x. 516). — I have always under-
stood (but on what authority I do not know) that
this was said by Bishop Warburton to a young man
who showed a partiality for beer. The proverb
was quoted to me once by a gentleman (a brewer)
with a slight variation, he substituting " water " for
the beverage originally named, and it sounded
almost as wise.
EDWARD H, MARSHALL, M.A,
Hastings,
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333
TOPOGRAPHICAL COLLECTIONS FOR COUNTIES
(8th S. ix. 361, 497 ; x. 32 ; xi. 17).— I possess an
interesting MS. catalogue of Cheshire printed books
in the beautiful handwriting of the late Edward
Hawkins F.S.A., of the British Museum; also
the list of Cheshire books compiled by the late
Thomas Worthington Barlow.
T, CANN HUGHES, M,A.
Lancaster.
GlLLMAN OR GlLMAN FAMILY (8th S. xi. 222,
296). — It is satisfactory to find so competent an
authority as MR. WALTER EYE accepting my
conclusion (p. 222) as to a certain Welsh descent
which had been wrongly assigned to the Gillmans
of Ireland. But my conclusion goes no further than
disproving that particular descent ; it does nothing
to invalidate the possible Welsh origin of at least
that branch of the Gillman family. In fact, I
stated (p. 223) that the earliest known ancestor,
John, son of a Richard, was of Anglesey, in
Wales ; and Anglesey is the very spot where
several of the fifteen tribes of North Wales were
to be found (Prof. Ehys's ed. of Pennant's * Tours
in Wales/ 1883, iii. 418). Further, when a grant
of arms was made to this John, in 1553, the arms
were Quarterly, two out of the three charges on
the shield borne by the fourth tribe of North
Wales ; and all the three charges were put on a
shield granted to his son Henry in 1582. It is
not at all probable that the English heralds would
have made such grants unless John and his son
were able to show some connexion as at least
members of the tribe of Cilmin-troed-du, These
facts have to be explained away before the Welsh
origin of this branch of the family can be rejected.
In the grant of 1553 John is described as Gil my n,
or, in the fantastic spelling of the time, " G-uylmyn
troed of Anglesea, in Wales, he being then Her
Majesty's Gentleman Herbegier." "Troed" is
clearly shortened for troed~dut thus confirming the
connexion with the fourth tribe of North Wales.
I write the above without the advantage of
having yet seen Mr. Walter Rye's paper in the
current number of the Genealogist.
HERBERT WEBB GILLMAN.
Clonteadmore, Coachford, co. Cork.
PASCO : PASCOE (8th S. xi. 208). — The meaning
of Pasco is Easter child. Miss Yonge, in her
' History of Christian Names,' vol. i. p. 436 (ed.
1863), says :—
" Pascoe was married in St. Columb Magna, in 1452 J
Paschal is there the feminine ; and many other instances
can be easily found to the further honour of the name."
Dr. Charnock, in ' Prsenomina,' has : —
Pasco, Pascoe. A Cornish variation of Pascal, an
1 French baptismal name, first imposed on those born
the season of Pasche, or Easter."
See also 'Curiosities of Puritan Nomenclature,'
P- 96. F. 0, BIRKBECK TERRY.
The names Pasco and Pascoe are variations of
Pascal, from the Latin paschalis, meaning born at
Easter, from the Greek pascha, from the Hebrew
pesachj the Passover. So the name Nowell, or
Noel, means born at Christmas, from the Latin
natalis. F. J. CANDY.
Croydon.
I suggest that this common Cornish baptismal
and surname is equivalent to French Pascal,
Italian Pasquale, Welsh Pasgen, &c. , and means
"one born at Eastertide" — Paschali tempore
natus. JOHN HOBSON MATTHEWS.
Town Hall, Cardiff.
CAGOTS (8th S. xi. 28, 298).— I am afraid MR.
GOLEM AN 's letter at the last reference may lead
some to the impression that the Rev. T. W. Webb
is still living, the fact being that he died about
twelve years ago. An appreciative account of him
will be found in Mr. Mee's excellent little work
'Observational Astronomy,' which appeared at
Cardiff in 1893. Webb's * Celestial Objects for
Common Telescopes ' is a book well known to all
astronomers, and a new (the fifth) edition, in two
volumes, has been published since the author's
death by the Rev. T. E. Espin. W. T. LYNN.
Blackheath.
POLITICIAN (8tb S. x. 333, 444, 517).— Apropos
of the firmly settled colloquial distinction prevail-
ing throughout the United States between the
words politician and statesman, this, thrown out by
the Rev. Sam. Jones, the now famous revivalist, at
a religious gathering in an American city the other
day, is very much to the point : —
"My friends, two old people had a boy, and they
wanted to know what he was going to be in the world,
so they left a dollar, a Bible, and a bottle of whisky on a
table to see which he would choose, and went out of the
room. When the boy came home, he put the dollar in
his pocket, took a drink out of the bottle, and put the
bottle in his poeket, placed the Bible under his arm, and
walked out. ' My God, wife,' said the old man, ' the
boy 's going to be a politician.' My friends, the last
thing in this world I want to be is a politician. I wouldn't
mind being a statesman."
0.
"FASESYING" (8th S. xi. 27).— Another form of
the surname which interests H. F. is Pheysey.
There was a chemist of this name in business at
Waterloo, near Liverpool, twenty years ago and
for some time before. 0. 0. B.
"ANIMALCULE" (8th S. xi. 46).— I do not re-
member to have ever met with any reference to
the French chemist and politician Raspail, as the
originator, in modern times, of the animaloular
theory of disease and of the antiseptic treatment.
I used to be constantly told by my father and
mother, who had witnessed the Revolution of 1848
in Paris, that Raspail, who attributed disease to
the presence of <( animalcule" in the blood, and
advocated the consumption of garlic by the poor
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and camphor by the rich as a remedial measure,
having been captured by the opposite party, the
cry was set up : " Raspail est pris ! Qu'en ferons
nous (camphrons nous) ! " to which the obvious
rejoinder was, " Camphrez le ! "
THOMAS J. JBAKES.
FEMALE NAMES : Avis AND JOYCE (8th S. x.
254; xi. 54). — It may be worth noting that in
*' Prsenomina ; or, the Etymology of the Principal
Christian Names of Great Britain and Ireland.
By Richard Stephen Charnock, Ph. Dr., F.S.A.
London, Triibner & Co., 1882," we find a different
meaning for the first of these names from that
given by your correspondents. He gives : —
"Avice, Avis. See Hawise."
"Hawise. This female name (which has been cor-
rupted down to Avice and Avis) is from Hadewisa, formed
from the German name Hedvig, same as Edwig, which
Wachter translates ' propugnator felicitas,' say, 'fortunate
soldier.' "
"Joyce. A female name. Lower derives this name
from the French joyeuse, cheerful, hilarious. Others
derive it from Jocosa, a very common name in the four-
teenth and fifteenth centuries ; from the Latin iocosus,
merry, sportive."
J. B. FLEMING.
Kelvinside, Glasgow.
"JOFFING STEPS " (8th S. xi. 189).-— MRS.
BOGER appears to have made the common mis-
take between the / and the long s. Bailey's
1 Dictionary,' thirteenth edition, 1749, gives :
" Jossing-block, a block to get up on horseback."
C. F. S. WARREN, M.A.
Longford, Coventry.
The form " jossing-block" is given in W. Dur-
rant Cooper's ' Glossary ' as an East Sussex
provincialism. Holloway, in the ' Provincial Dic-
tionary,' gives also the form " Jostling-block,"
locates it in Norfolk and Suffolk, and derives it
from " Fr. adjuster"
EDWARD H. MARSHALL, M.A.
Hastings.
THE AGE OF YEW TREES (8th S. x. 431 ; xi.
276).—In the First Series of ' Things not Generally
Known,' by John Tinibs, are some interesting par-
ticulars concerning " Aged Trees." Among them
is the following with reference to yew trees.
Mr. Bowman, F.L.S., as a result of his observa-
tions upon the growth of several young yew trees,
concludes that their diameters increase during the
first 120 years at the rate of one-sixth of an inch
per annum. In Gresford Churchyard, near Wrex-
ham, North Wales, eighteen yew trees, recorded
in the parish register to have been planted in
1726, averaged twenty inches in diameter in 1836.
Another yew tree in the same churchyard had a
trunk twenty-two feet in circumference at the base
and twenty-nine feet below the first branches,
giving a mean diameter of 1,224 lines, which,
according to De Candolle's calculation, ought also
to indicate the number of years. From three
sections of this tree Mr. Bowman found the average
of rings deposited for one inch in depth of its latest
growth to be 34f ; comparing which with the data
of the eighteen young trees, the probable age of
this tree was 1,419 years. Another yew tree, in
Darley Churchyard, Derbyshire, had a mean
diameter of 1,356 lines ; horizontal sections gave
an average for its latest increase at forty-four rings
per inch nearly, which gives 2,006 years as its age
(Proceedings British Association, 1836).
Two other noteworthy trees are also mentioned
by Timbs. One, which grew at Forthampton,
Gloucestershire, was estimated to be of the age
of 1,360 years ; the other, which was at a place
called Fortingall, a village among the Grampians in
Scotland, was, by a similar process of calculation,
considered to be more than 2,500 years old.
C. P. HALE.
In the grounds of Kersal Cell, Kersal, Lanes.,
is a dead yew tree, under-propped and chained
together as to its upper limbs, to preserve its erect
position. The date of the foundation of the Cell,
under the priory of Lenton, Notts, was about the
middle of the twelfth century. It is reasonable to
suppose that the seed from which this tree sprang
was brought from the Holy Land at the close of the
second Crusade, 1149 ; therefore it would appear
that it lived 700 years. Eecent photographs show
a few living sprays. It is certain that the yew cannot
stand much longer, and when it falls there will be
an opportunity, by the method applied to exogens,
not only of computing its age, but of fixing a date
beyond which there could not have been a religious
affiliation at Kersal. The sowing of the seed would
be contemporary with or subsequent to the monastic
establishment, not precedent thereto.
ARTHUR MATALL.
* MlDDLEMARCH '
Eliot must have
(8th S. xi. 147
known Young's
PASSAGE IN
214). — George
' Night Thoughts,' as is sufficiently proved by her
essay 'Worldliness and Other - World liness,' in
which she is very hard upon the poet, whilst, in my
opinion, she fails to see what is the characteristic of
this poem, which, together with other contemporary
productions, introduced the great change that was
taking place in English poetry about the middle of
the eighteenth century — a change which made an
end of the rationalistic and pseudo-classical method
and chimed in the poetry of sentiment and ori-
ginality. K, TEN BRUGGENCATE.
Leeuwarden, Holland.
THE "BARGHEST" (8«> S. xi. 185).— So far as
East Yorkshire is concerned, the remarks of DR.
SMTTHE PALMER on the origin of barghest are not
applicable.
1. The word cannot be a compound of bargh and
ghest> for the word bargh, meaning a low ridge or
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335
hill, is pronounced barf; like thof for though,
thruf for through, pleeaf for plough, slafter for
slaughter, &c.
2. The spirit, spectre, hobgoblin, boggle, demon,
or ghost known as barghest does not haunt grave-
yards or burial-mounds, which are called howes.
It haunts lanes, and prowls round houses, often
single houses, where are neither graveyards nor
howes. Its association with death is prophetic,
and the sight or sound of it is timely warning for
some house or other to be set in order.
3. The barghest is always described as a quad-
ruped, like a dog, a big black dog, with " ees as
big as saucers "; sometimes, as having " flaming
ees." It never attacks any one, only terrifies, and
then passes on, or vanishes. The 'Holderness
Glossary ' describes it as " a hobgoblin that predicts
death in a family by howling round the house
during the night."
4. I believe the word barghest to be simply
" bear-ghost," and a dialect synonym for " bug-
bear." J. NICHOLSON.
50, Berkeley Street, Hull.
Keightley, in his ' Fairy Mythology,' says that
the Barguest was a fairy that took the form of a
mastiff and other animals. He says of another
fairy that it took the form of a bear ; and we learn
from * Midsummer Night's Dream ' that Puck
changed himself to a bear. Barghest may be the
same as "bear-ghost." E. YARDLET.
KECK FAMILY (8th S. xi. 149, 192).— A. T. M.
may 'be glad to have the following extracts from
the baptismal register of Mickleton, Gloucester-
shire (which I suspect is the Middleton of Mr.
Lay ton) : —
" 1630, 28 March. Anthony, eon of Nicholas Kecke."
" 1632, 20 March. Samuel), son of Nicholas Kecke."
Fhe name occurs nowhere else in the register.
The first-mentioned of these was, I believe, the Sir
Anthony Keck, Knt., of whom MR. E. MARSHALL
speaks. S. G. HAMILTON.
Miss FAIRBROTHER (8th S. xi. 267).— -If I may
rely upon memory going back fifty years, the above
lady was the daughter of a theatrical printer,
well known in the West-end of London for dis-
played posting bills. The firm was associated with
1 the theatres, and hence, as I have since thought,
Miss Farebrother would have proclivities to the
stage for that reason ; and as ab about the same
period the compositors often took to the stage as
partly a semi-literary life which accorded with the
predilections formed by their occupation — among
them being Buckstone, Keeley, and Phelps, besides
thers — it is not at all improbable that the stage
was quite familiar to her. With whom she played
at first I have no record, but she soon made herself
a favourite with the public, and left the stage only
through her morganatic alliance with the Duke of
Cambridge. Her brothers, I think, were the
founders of the well-known firm of auctioneers
known as Farebrother, Ellis, Clark & Co., of which
Sir Whittaker Ellis is now, I believe, the repre-
sentative, having risen years ago from a juvenile
position into a wealthy partner. She died, I
believe, about six years ago, leaving a large
family, several of whom are in the army and hold
high rank at the present time. ESSINOTON.
HOOD'S " I REMEMBER, I REMEMBER " (8th S.
xi. 206), — Hood's lines referred to by C. 0. B.
are :—
The lilacs where the robin built,
And where my brother set
The laburnum on his birthday. —
The tree is living yet !
I would ask the question whether the first line
does imply that the robin built in the lilacs. To
me it seems that Hood intended us to understand
that the robin built where the lilacs grew— in a
bank, it may be. The second line corroborates
this view, for we cannot suppose that his brother
planted his laburnum in the lilacs.
F. 0. BIRKBECK TERRY.
GAULE'S ' MAG-ASTRO-MANCER ' (8th S. x. 277,
401 ; xi. 250). — Through the kindness of an
esteemed contributor to * N. & Q.,' the writer has
had a leisurely survey of this book, and finds no-
thing therein to settle definitely the meaning of
the Greek title. The absence of the Greek note of
interrogation makes against the theory that the
first title is interrogative. Perhaps the best solution
of the difficulty will be found to be that the author,
according to the fashion of his time — seventeenth
century — made use of a play upon the meaning of
the word, and deliberately cultivated, in this case,
the ambiguity and double meaning of the divina-
tion that he condemned. ARTHUR MAY ALL.
The meaning of IIvs in my answer to the above
query was not given as the literal rendering, but
what I thought to be " the common-sense English "
interpretation after due examination of the contents
of the book. MR. TERRY evidently considers it
incorrect, so I will await his explanation of
"divination whither" to enable me to correct a
note made respecting the title-page.
JOHN RADCLIFFE.
TRUE DATE OF THE FIRST EASTER (8th S. viii*
465 ; ix. 135, 175, 256, 309, 356).— With every
apology to your learned correspondents who have
so fully discussed this question, I venture to send
the following excerpt from Gibbon's 'Rome,' vol. ii.
chap. xvi. : —
" To divert a suspicion which the power of despotism
was unable to suppress, the emperor resolved to sub-
stitute in his own place some fictitious criminals. ' With
this view (continues Tacitus) he inflicted the most
exquisite tortures on those men, who under the vulgar
appellation of Christiana were already branded with
deserved infamy. They derived their name and origin
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from Christ, who, in tbe reign of Tiberius, had suffered
death, by the sentence of the procurator, Pontiua
Pilate.*'"
CELER ET AUDAX.
The annexed clipping, taken from the Tacoma
correspondence of the San Francisco Examiner,
under date of 29 March, 1896, seems worthy of
preservation in the columns of * N. & Q.' in this
connexion : —
"It was Easter Sunday to-day on the Pacific Slope,
although probably not more than half a dozen people
knew it. Those who did know it are ambitious astro-
nomers and mathematicians. They find that the first
full moon after the spring equinox put in an appearance
on this coast shortly after ten o'clock last night, and it
is a fact that the first Sunday after the first full moon
after the spring equinox is Easter Sunday the world
over. But in this particular case, said to be the first
instance of the kind since the beginning of the Christian
era, only this part of the Pacific Slope has its Easter
Sunday a week in advance of the rest of the world.
When the moon filled Saturday night, reckoning by
Pacific coast time, it was already Sunday in New York
and London. Consequently for the East and the balance
of the world, excepting the Pacific coast, the first
Sunday after the first full moon after the spring equinox
does not arrive until next Sunday."
A. M. HANDY.
" BETWEEN THE SHRINE AND THE STONE " (8th
S.xi. 264). — The proverb translated by Froude from
Erasmus is known to classical scholars as a Latin
equivalent of the English " Between the devil and
the deep sea." But Froude has further obscured
the Latin by his rendering. "Inter sacrum et
saxurn " should be translated " Between the victim
and the stone knife." Sacrum — originally, of course,
a sacred thing (as in Horace, * Od.,' iii. 3, 62)—
might mean a sanctuary, and so some old autho-
rities render it ; but modern scholars have gener-
ally agreed that here it means the sacrifice or
victim. Saxum means a stone knife, Livy (i. 24)
describes an early ceremony, in the time of the
Roman kings, in which a pig was killed by such
an implement of flint. One of the "fetiales," an
ancient body of priests, recited a formula, "Id
ubi dixit, porcum saxo silice percussit." The sense
of the proverb is clear from the context of the two
following passages. Plautus, ' Oaptivi,' iii. 4, 84,
' Nunc ego omnino occidi, nunc ego inter sacrum
saxumque sto necquid faciam scio"; Apuleius,
' Metamorpb.,' xi. p. 271,,/in., " Plurimumergo
" * This testimony is alone sufficient to expose the
anachronism of the Jews, who place the birth of Christ
near a century sooner (Basnage, ' Histoire des Juifs,' 1. v.
c. 14, 16). We may learn from Josephus (Antiquitat.,
xviii. 3) that the procuratorship of Pilate corresponded
with the last ten years of Tiberius, A.D. 27-37. As to
the particular time of the death of Christ, a very early
tradition fixed it to the 25th of March, A.D. 29,
under the consulship of the two Gemini ('Tertullian
adv. Judaeos,' c. 8). This date, which is adopted by
Pagi, Cardinal Norris, and Le Clerc, seems at least as
probable as the vulgar era, which is placed (I know not
from what conjectures) four years later."
quod ait vetus proverbium, inter sacrum et saxum
positus, cruciabar." V. R.
Erasmus's original letter is certainly written in
Latin, and his very words surely are " Inter
sacrum saxumque." This is a very old Latin say-
ing, which, in its meaning, corresponds to tbe
English expression, " Between hawk and buzzard."
But Erasmus's translator in this passage rendered
the words literally, and did not give the meaning—
probably because he did not understand the Latin
expression. H. GAIDOZ.
22, Rue Servandoni, Paris.
'THE VICAR OF WAKEFIELD' (8*h S. xi. 88,
198). — The incident referred to occurred during
the summer of 1865. The following paragraph
went the round of Yorkshire and other journals
early in September of that year : —
" Some German gentlemen, a few days ago, called at
the vicarage, Wakefield, and asked permission to view
the house and grounds. It was accorded, not without
surprise at a request so unusual. When the compatriots
of Goethe and Schiller had satisfied their curiosity, and
had departed, it transpired that they had made a pil-
grimage, as they believed, to the scene of Oliver Gold-
smith's story, and that the vicarage was to them endeared
by associations of Dr. Primrose, Olivia, Sophia, and
Moses. May the enthusiastic Germans never be un-
deceived and disenchanted."
ALEXANDER PATERSON.
Barnsley.
HENRIETTA MARIA (8tlJ S. xi. 128, 233).— There
can be no doubt that the consort of Charles I. was
usually styled Queen Mary. At Naseby Fight,
14 June, 1645, the word of the royalists was
" Queen Mary." At Queen's College, Oxford, in
" A Thanksgiving for the Founder and Benefactors
of this College," used at the present day, " King
Charles I. and Queen Mary, his wife," are men-
tioned. This is said to have been drawn up by
Thomas Barlow, D.D., Provost of Queen's College,
1657-77, and Bishop of Lincoln 1675-91.
JOHN PICKFORD, M.A.
Newbourne Rectory, Woodbridge.
THOMAS BOLAS (8tb S. xi. 27, 74). —Thomas and
John Bolas were admitted to Merchant Taylors'
School in 1753. An entry in the Gentleman's
Magaxine, July, 1791, vol. Ixi. pt. ii. p. 685, thus
records the death of an aged member of the family :
" July 14. At his house at Walworth, after a long and
painful illness, aged eighty-eight, Mr. Tho. Bolas,
formerly a respectable tradesman of the city of London,
but many years retired."
DANIEL HIPWELL.
Louis PANORMO (8tb S. xi. 268).— This cele-
brated maker of guitars gave up his business in
Bloomsbury and emigrated to Australia or New
Zealand, where he died about forty years ago. The
last surviving member of the family, Edward, a
nephew of the above, died recently in Brighton at
a very advanced age. There are no descendants
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337
of Louis Panormo following the craft at the present
time, and nothing is known of them.
ARTHUR F. HILL.
POPULAR NAMES OF DRUGS (8tb S. xi. 287). —
If your correspondent were to look up the ' Ledger
of Andrew Halyburton, 1492-1503,' published by
the authority of the Lords of Her Majesty's
Treasury, under the direction of the Right Hon.
the Lord Clerk-Register of Scotland, he might
possibly find in the list of drugs there something
that might be of use to him, although it is right to
say that it is more of antiquarian than of modern
scientific interest.
DOUGLAS MACLAGAN, Knt,, M.D.
The " popular names of drugs and other
medicines" is rather an extensive requirement.
But there can scarcely be anything sold at a
chemist's or druggist's which will not be found, if
it is a drug or medicine, with its common name in
Squire's translation of the ' British Pharmacopoeia,'
Beesley's 'Chemists' Receipt Book,' Martindale
and Westcott's ' Extra Pharmacopoeia.' Of course,
there are secret nostrums, such as chlorodyne, or
homocea, or Mother Seigel's syrup, of which the
composition can only be given approximately,
ED. MARSHALL.
A long list of very ingenious popular twistings
of the classical names of drugs may be found in
the third series of Bottreli's ' Hearthside Stories
of West Cornwall.' I think the list dates from
the early part of the century.
JOHN HOBSON MATTHEWS.
Town Hall, Cardiff.
HERVET WALTER (8*11 S. xi. 168).— -Your
correspondent SUSSEX is clearly in error as to this
name, and evidently refers to Hervey Walter as
the " founder of the house of Butler." Herveus
filius Hervei, as he was otherwise known, living
1171, was second son and third child of Herveus
Bituricensis (i.e., Hervey of Berri, temp. Will. I.,
so called as being second Lord of St. Aignan in
Berri, who succeeded his brother as Baron de
Donzi after 1112, and died 1120), and married
Matilda or Maud de Valoines. They had issue
Theobald Walter (I.) le Botiller, or Butler, of Ire-
land, who married Matilda Vavasour, and died
1206 ; Hubert Walter, Archbishop of Canter-
bury, temp. Ric. I. ; Hamon ; Herveus ; and
other children. The said Theobald had Theobald
Walter (II.) le Botiller, his son and heir, who
had half a knight's fee in Boxted, co. Suffolk,
Hen. III., married Joan, daughter of John de
Marisco, and died 1248. From him spring the
Herveys of Suffolk, Norfolk, Essex, Beds, North-
ants, &c., the Butlers of the house of Ormonde,
Carrick, &c. See also Carte's 'Life of Ormonde.'
I give the above brief outline for what it is
worth, and should be sorry to vouch for the
accuracy of the statements, as not admitting of the
necessary proof. I may add that, speaking gene-
rally, I do not favour the attempted compilation
of pedigrees up to so early a date, when the re-
cords in evidence of descents are in most cases
vague and unsatisfactory. W. I. R. V.
"DARLING OF MANKIND": VESPASIAN (8th S.
x. 275, 441, 519).— At the last reference MR.
RICHARD H. THORNTON has quoted from Burton's
'Anatomy of Melancholy.' May I be permitted
to give a still more apt quotation from the same
work1? —
"Of such account were Cato, Fabritius, Aristides,
Antoninus, Probus, for their eminent worth : so Caesar,
Trajan, Alexander, admired for valour: Hephaestion
loved Alexander, but Parmenio the king : ' Titus delici*
humani generis,' and, which Aurelius Victor hath of
Vespasian, c the dilling of his time,1 aa Edgar Bthelmg
was in England, for his excellent vertues ; their memory
is yet fresh, sweet; and we love them many ages after,
though they be dead."— Part iii. sec. i. mem. 2, subs, d,
vol. ii. p. 175, ed. 1837.
F. C. BIRKBECK TERRY.
AN EARLY COPYING MACHINE (8th S. xi.
226, 298). — I have now before mo one of riiose
"machines invented by a Mr. Wedgwood." It
has been in the family for at least three generations,
but is in excellent preservation, and as capable
of being used as when new. Under a large royal
arms on a pink label on the firstj cover is this
inscription : —
" Stylographic Manifold Writer. Nocto, via, maim
& penna Polygraphs. Manufactured by Ralph Wedg-
wood, Junr, son and successor to the Patentee. >V hole-
sale and Retail, 345, Oxford Street, London.'
Inside the cover, on pink paper, are " Directions
for using R. Wedgwood's Patent Manifold Writer,
in English and French. On the inside of the end
cover is another pink label, with the following list,
which may be interesting to some of the readers of
1 N. & Q.':—
" Inventions founded on R. Wedgwood's Patent.
" Manifold Writers, for producing duplicate letters at
one operation, in durable ink, and with a single pen, that
does not wear out nor require repairs.
" Nocto-Polygraphs, by which the blind are enabled
produce the same effect without any assistance whatever.
" Via- Polygraphs, for producing duplicate drawings,
at one operation, in the open air, or for writing m a
carriage, in a lecture-room, or on ship-board.
" Manu-Polygraphs, for writing on rolls of paper or
parchment, more particularly adapted for writing Persian,
Hebrew, and other Eastern Languages; and in a more
portable form, used with great facility as a
"Military Order-Book, affording an exact copy of
every order given in the field of battle.
"All these inventions equally embrace the advantage
of expedition, secresy, portablenesa (both in the machine
itself and the ink made use of), and durability of pens.
R. R.
Boston, Lincolnshire.
To the Antiquarian Magazine and Bibliographer,
vol. v. No. 26, p. 104, Mr. J. H, Round contri-
338
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bated the following extract from the Perfect
Diurnall for 12 May, 1648, No. 250, p. 1016 :—
" We once before mentioned the art of double-writing,
and we are desired for better satisfaction to give you
this further account of it now. That there is invented
an instrument of small bignes [sic] and price, easily made
and very durable ; whereby with an houres practice, one
may write two copies of the same thing at once, on a
book or parchment as well as on paper, and in any cha-
racter whatsoever, of great advantage to Lawers [sic],
scriveners, merchants, schollars, registers, clarkes, &c.
It saving the labour of examination, discovering or pre-
venting falsifications, and performing the whole business
of writing as with ease and speed, so with privacy also.
Approved in its use and feasibility by an Ordinance of
both Houses of Parliament. The further nature whereof,
and the latter conditions whereupon it shall be dis-
covered (the former for not doing it till the first of
April, 1649, being declined) may be freely known at the
Inventor's lodging, nexte doore to the wite Bear in Loth-
bury. Where note that for hast'ningthe discovery, the
price whereof will be greater or lesse according aa men
come in soon or late for the same.' '
In a later communication Mr. Round deems the
inventor of thia method of double writing to be
Sir William Petty, famous as a surveyor and
economist, who applied for and obtained a patent
* for seventeen years to teach his art of double
writing.'' RICHARD LAWSON.
Urmston.
TRIALS AT BAR (8th S. xi. 227). —For the
history and present position of "Trial at Bar," see
the Standard newspaper for 6 July, 1896.
EVERARD HOME OOLEMAN.
71, Brecknock Road.
LANCASHIRE HORNPIPE (8tb S. xi. 127, 212).—
An investigation in several likely sources has not
revealed the information desired by H. T. If the
music of a Lancashire hornpipe would interest him,
t shall have pleasure in sending him a copy, taken
from a book of hornpipes and jigs current in the
seventeenth century. RICHARD LAWSON.
Urmston, Manchester.
COMPETITOR FOR LONGEST REIGN (8th S. xi. 146
218).— "Over what?" The hearts of the Jacobites.
ED. MARSHALL.
^ "UNDER THE WEATHER" (8th S. xi. 246).— In
England we say of murky weather that " it is very
depressing," when it is hot and murky we say "it
is very oppressive." A man who for any reason is
living in unwonted social obscurity is said to be
'in shady circumstances," "under a cloud," or,
more vulgarly and less pertinently, "in Queer Street."
A sailor, when he gets the better of an opponent,
says he "has the weather-gauge of him," an ex-
pression derived from the sailing tactic known to
yachtsmen as " blanketing " an adversary ; that is,
' taking the wind out of his sails " by getting to
windward of him, and thus throwing a "wet
blanket " over his chances of winning, equivalent
to giving an adversary the " wash" of one's oars
in rowing. THOMAS J. JEAKBS.
This American expression must have undergone
a change of meaning during the last twenty years,
for Mr. John Russell Bartlett's ' Dictionary of
Americanisms,' 1877, has: "'He's under the
weather,' is a figurative expression, meaning badly
off; in straitened circumstances."
F. 0. BIRKBECK TERRY.
I have been familiar with this phrase to express
u indisposed " in Shropshire for fifty years, and I
believe it is common in other parts of England.
E. W.
THE BEST GHOST STORY IN THE WORLD (8th
S. xi. 248).— With Borrow's Bible distributing
propensities, he ought to have known what is, in
a high and deep and broad sense, "the best ghost
story in the world." It is that of Eliphaz the
Temanite.
One evening, about forty-five years ago, some of
those who sat in the drawing-room Of my boyhood's
home began to talk upon the subject. My father
listened for a few minutes, and said, " Now I will
read you the best ghost story that I know." He
then opened a Bible and read aloud Job iv. 12-17 :
" 12. Now a thing was secretly brought to me, and
mine ear received a little thereof.
" 13. In thoughts from the visions of the night, when
deep sleep falleth on men,
" 14. Fear came upon me, and trembling, which made
all my bones to shake.
" 15. Then a spirit passed before my face ; the hair of
my flesh stood up :
" 16. It stood still, but I could not discern the form
thereof: an image was before mine eyes, there was
silence, and 1 heard a voice, saying,
"17. Shall mortal man be more just than God? shall
a man be more pure than his maker ?"
What description of a real or supposed appari-
tion, five times as long, fifty times as elaborate, by
Lope de Vega or anybody else, can equal the
sublime grandeur of these verses ? My father had
a fine voice and a good delivery, and I know that
those who heard him thought this. Very young as
I was, I have never forgotten it ; and, to judge by
the silent and intent listening, I think that others
at any rate must have remembered it for long.
0. F. S. WARREN, M.A.
Longford, Coventry.
GRETNA GREEN MARRIAGES (8tb S. ix. 61, 149,
389 ; xi. 294). — I have received the following
communication from a friend, who lives in the
next parish to Gretna, just over the border. He
says : —
" There never was a blacksmith ; he was only
described as such because he 'forged the bonds of
Hymen.' The first priest was an old soldier, who
apparently thought it an honourable way to earn a living
when his country no longer required his services. Next
came a tobacconist by trade, who was also a noted
smuggler on the Solway. His daughter married one
David Laing, who succeeded to the office, and it remained
in the family, Simon Laing succeeding his father. Last
came William Laing, who has lately died, But as long
8«> S. XI. APKIL 24/97.]
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339
as the trade lasted— i. e., until it was knocked on the head
by Lord Brougham's Act— there was always a number of
rivals, who are said to have driven a good trade."
I doubt whether any farther information is to be
had on this subject beyond what has already been
reported in 'N. & Q.'' 0. S. JERRAM.
Oxford.
CARRICK (8th S. xi. 287).— The above name was
not brought over from Normandy by Robert de
Brus. The estates and earldom of Carrick came
to the Bruce family in 1271, through the marriage
of Robert Bruce, son of Robert Bruce, Lord of
Annandale and Cleveland, with Margaret, Countess
of Carrick, daughter of Niel, the second earl, and
widow of Adam de Kilconcath (or perhaps Kilcon-
quhar), j. u. Earl of Carrick.
Carrick — the southernmost of the three districts
into which the fertile county of Ayr is divided — is
derived from the Gadhelic carraig, a rock, pro-
bably referring to a big boulder on the march of
Ayrshire and Galloway, now known as the Taxing
Stone.
Carrickfergus means the rock where Fergus, an
Irish king, was drowned (see Canon Taylor's
* Names and their Histories ').
JOHN RADCLIFFE.
NOTES ON BOOKS, &c.
The Lives of the Saints. By the Rev. S. Baring-Gould,
M.A. Vol. I. (Nimmo.)
A QUARTER of a century has elapsed since the first edition
of Mr. Baring- Gould's 'Lives of the Saints,' the most
ambitious attempt at a hagiography of which England
can boast, eaw the light, its appearance, as is easily
conceivable, being viewed with favour or disfavour
by various classes of theologians or controversialists. It
has now the good fortune to be reissued by Mr. Nimmo
in sixteen volumes, with upwards of four hundred en-
gravings. The present, it is needless to say, constitutes
the definite as well as the handsomest edition of the
work, the last word of controversy as to which has not
yet been spoken. The basis of this, as of every work of
the kind, is found in the labours of the Bollandists, the
progress of which labours may still be traced in our
columns, A compendium of these is bound to be a huge
work, fitted only for purely theological collections or for
great public libraries. The most vigorous form of com-
pression had, in the first instance, to be exercised, but
one-hundredth amount of the space assigned by Bollandus
and his disciples and successors to the * Acta Sanctorum '
being at the disposal of Mr. Baring-Gould. It was
claimed for the English work that no saint of great
historical interest was omitted. The number is, how-
ever, very large of those " less known saintly religious,
whose eventless life flowed uniformly in prayer, vigil,
and mortification." The discretion of the writer was
used, moreover, as regards the character of the miracles
retained, those only being given which are remark-
able " either for being fairly well authenticated or for
their intrinsic beauty or quaintness, or because they are
often represented in art, and are therefore of interest to
the archaeologist." The book, it will be seen, bristles
with difficulties, and the task of calling attention to it
in a periodical appealing to various classes of readers
abounds with pitfalls of which we strive to steer clear.
The new edition includes additional lives of English
martyrs and Cornish and Welsh saints, and a full index
to the entire work. As with previous works of a similar
nature, the arrangement is under months, the whole
thus constituting a calendar for every day in the year.
July, October, and November will occupy two volumes
each, the other nine months and the appendix volume
making up the total of sixteen monthly volumes in
which the whole is comprised. January covers over
five hundred pages, and is issued with forty -five
illustrations. Most of the names given are, natur-
ally, strange to those to whom ecclesiastical annals
have not been a subject of close study. The frontis-
piece to the first volume consists of a beautiful silver-
gilt monstrance, in the treasury of the cathedral of
Aix-la-Chapelle. A plate of the Circumcision, from the
great Vienna edition of the Missale Bomanum, faces
p. i. From the same work are taken the Epiphany
and a beautiful figure of St. Agnes. The ' CaractSristiques
des Saints dans 1'Art Populaire,' &c., of the Fere Cahier
supplies illustrations of St. Genoveva, St. Egwin, Bishop
of Worcester and St. Honore. A striking plate of St.
Hilary baptizing St. Martin of Tours is from a window
in the church of St. Florentin, in Yonne. The Annuncia-
tion is from the well-known picture of Murillo, Many
designs are from A. Wei by Pugin. St. Anthony tortured
by demons, a wild mediaeval imagining, is by Martin
Schongauer. It is impossible to mention the various
sources whence have been drawn the illustrations, which
will render this work, to those to whom the subject
appeals, the most acceptable, as it is certainly the hand-
somest, of existing editions.
A Dictionary of Slang, Jargon, and Cant. Compiled
by Albert Barrere and Charles G. Leland. 2 vols.
(Bell & Sons.)
THIS is, before all things, a time of dictionaries ; and
were it not that language, whether polished and literary
or vulgar and colloquial, is subject to perpetual augmen-
tation and change, it might almost be anticipated that
a point of finality was near being reached. The latest
sillinesses or affectations of " irresponsible ignorant
reviewers " find their way, not seldom by the route of
4 N. & Q.,' into our great national lexicons. The mass
of information collected by this latest generation con-
cerning dialect is now being formulated and arranged,
and the coarsest or obscenest phrases of erotology in
Latin, French, and English can boast their choice of
unsavoury dictionaries or anthologies. Not wholly new
is the ' Dictionary of Slang, Jargon, and Cant ' of Messrg,
Barrere and Leland. It was first issued, however, in a
costly form, and for a select body of subscribers. It
now for the first time appeals to a general public, its
appearance being still such as to commend it to the
approval of book-lovers. There is a place for it in the
shape it now assumes. Compiled by two men of different
nationalities, each with a ripe knowledge of various
forms of slang, it is specially rich in cant terms, cant being
defined by M. Barrere as the classical slang of thieves.
The fault we have to find is that it is in some respects
too rich. The term " teacup-and-saucer comedy" was
applied by Purnell (Q.) to the plays of T. W. Robertson.
We doubt, however, whether an instance can be advanced
of " cup-and-saucer players " being applied derisively to
actors taking part in these plays. We wonder, moreover,
though we are no authority on the subject, whether
hedge, in turf phraseology, implies necessarily " to
reverse on advantageous terms the previous order of a
wager " (the italics are ours). Mr. Leland being an
American, we are surprised, under the word flies, to see
nojeference to the phrase, " You'll find no flies on me,"
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with which we are familiar, though, not being experts,
we will not attempt to give an exact definition. In some
cases, as in stone or stony broke, the conjectural expla-
nation fails to commend itself; in others, as in stone-jug,
we object to the advancing, as an authority, of ' N. & Q.'
without any references. To "sluice the ivories," an
alleged expression of Dickens, as equal to take a drink,
does not appear, nor does the kindred phrase, to " wash
the back of one's neck," applied to the same occupa-
tion. To "wash one's ivories" is given, with the French
equivalent, " se rincer la dent." From these things, and
from other omissions to which we could readily point,
it is seen that the work is not perfect. It is likely,
however, to be of great service to a large class of readers.
It is wholly devoid of offence, and may be introduced
into any library to which general access is permitted,
and it is a great advance upon previous compilations.
We have already praised its appearance, which is admir-
able in all respects. A reference to its pages is likely to
prevent many applications to our columns. Under " Great
Scott " appears an explanation which may, or may not,
satisfy those who persistently write to us on the subject.
For our own part, we have always suspected in the
phrase a veiled blasphemy, similar in gome respects to
that involved in the once current expletive Zounds.
National Ballad and Song.— Merry Songs and Ballads.
Edited by John S. Farmer. Vol. I. (Privately printed.)
THIS is the first volume of a daring and an ambitious
scheme, to the inception and plan of which we have
already given a certain measure of publicity. This is
nothing less than to do for our ballad and song litera-
ture what has not hitherto — to our rebuke be it said —
been done for our early drama, and to supply, so near as
may be, a corpus, or complete collection. With how
many difficulties the task is beset is shown in the method
of publication, the volumes being restricted to sub-
scribers, and not available to the general public. In
spite of the labours of the Ballad Society — all but con-
cluded, under the care of our friend Mr. Ebsworth —
and the gradual publication of the Roxburghe, Bagford,
and other collections; in spite, too, of the publication
by Mr. Furnivall of the full text of the Percy MSS.,
much remains to be done, and that much Mr. Farmer
aspires to do. On how extensive a scale his work is to
be conducted is shown in the fact that the ' Merry Songs
and Ballads/ with which he elects to begin, will in them-
selves occupy ten volumes. Familiar to a certain number
of students are the sources whence these are drawn.
D'Urfey's 'Pills to Purge Melancholy,' a wonderful
collection, representative of Restoration times, contri-
butes to the opening volume not a few. Others come from
the ' Drolleries,' reprinted by Mr. Robert Roberts, and
others, again, from the " merry muse " of Robert Burns,
to which, in their new edition of Burns, Messrs. Henley
and Henderson refer. The earliest song in the volume
is the well-known Scottish poem 'The Gaberlunzie
Man,' attributed to James V. of Scotland. Following
songs — unprinted, as we suppose, previously — are from
the Rawlinson MSS. The Percy folio MS. supplies
many. Others, again, are from broadsides, from Ravens-
croft's ' Melismata,' a book of almost incredible rarity,
from various musical collections, and from other sources.
To what extent the first volume is representative of
those to follow we are not yet in a position to state. Its
contents cover two and a half centuries, however, and
are remarkably varied. Concerning the expediency of
reprinting or collecting works of this kind in editions
the circulation of which is restricted, scholars seem
agreed. The world is profoundly interested in its own
growth and development, and will now permit of the
destruction of no documents out of which the history of
its life has to be written. The fact that we hold changed
views as to what is coarseness no more justifies us in
branding ages or epochs than the adhesion to primitive
forms of idolatry justified the persecutions by the
Spaniards in America. The coarseness and naivete of
the fabliau may, perhaps, better be defended than the
morbid introspection of modern realism. The works
now reprinted have the naivete and coarseness of which
we speak. Not a few of them, in Ben Jonson's words,
" boldly nominate a spade a apade." There is to be
found in them, indeed, almost everything except the
putrescence of the Court of the Regent Orleans. These
things are now given, it is claimed, for the first time
with no species of bowdlerization. They are issued in
an edition from which the general reader is warned off,
just as the scholar is bidden to it. Nowise concerned
are we to open out at this moment the general question
of the expediency of reprinting all the matter now given.
We may say, however, that those who from any but the
proper point of view undertake the perusal of these
curious products of the observation and the propensities
of our forefathers, will profit as much as the hundreds
of readers who, without knowledge or preparation, have
sat down to extract a furtive delight from the pages of
Rabelais, the attempted suppression of which, in the
interest of morality, might well have moved Tourangean
laughter, which, we take it, is much the same as Homeric.
Notes and illustrations are reserved for a concluding
volume, the present volume supplying only the text and
the source of the poem, together with a few glossarial
explanations on the side of the page. Paper and typo-
graphy are of the best, and the volume is handsome in
all respects.
The Cathedral Church of Chester. By Charles Hiatt
(Bell & Sons,)
To the " Cathedral " series of Messrs. Bell & Sons has
been added a well-executed and handsomely illustrated
account of the cathedral and see of Chester. The series
is excellent in design and scope, and the present volume
is up to the mark set by its two predecessors.
The Bacon Mania, (Wakefield, Carr.)
THOSE who wish to see the most moderate statement of
the Bacon and Shakspeare heresy may be commended
to this little volume.
to
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LONDON, SATURDAY, MAY I, 169T.
CONTENT S.— N° 279.
NOTES :— ' History of Pickwick,' 341 — Shakspeariana —
"Quartern-land," 343 — The Chevalier d'Bon — Bust of
Shakspeare — The Turkey, 344 — "Not worth a tinker's
curse "_B6ranger and William Morris—" Bar Sinister "—
M. Qoutellard, 345— Maniple— " Lurdan "—George Phillips
—Horace Wai pole : John and Francis Chute—" The Death-
cart "—Beds in the Hall, 346.
QUERIES :— " The greatest happiness of the greatest nura-
^ber"— Arms of the United States— Hand-stocking— Lady
Bartlett — Hotham— ' Dublin Gazette '—Thomas Brseme,
347— Wallis — Etching — Engravers— "Sophia, a Lady of
Quality "—Birthplace of Byron— " Consensus facit matri-
monium "—Dedications to St. Roque, 348— Science in the
Choir— Camoens, Lope de Vega, &c.— The Champion of
England, 349.
REPLIES :— The Peacock, 349— Shelta, 351—" Aceldama "—
Stag-horn—" Grass-widow"— " A day's work of land," 352—
McGillicuddy— Hackthorpe Portraits—" Manus Christi,"
353 — 8S. Cyriacus and Julietta— Sans Souci Theatre—
"Sitting Bodkin," 354 — Steel Pens — "Chare rofed"—
Ghost-Names—" Li maiaie hierlekin "—Peacock Feathers
Unlucky, 355 — Lucifer Matches — Cunobelinus— Gent—
"Hake,"" 356— " Eye-rhymes"— Tapestries from Raphael
Cartoons, 357 — "Rule the Roost"— National Anthem-
Thomas, Baron Wallace — Biblical Chronology — " The
mills of the gods grind slowly," 358.
NOTES ON BOOKS :— Farmer's Goddard's ' Satiricall Dia-
logve '—Sweet's ' Student's Dictionary of Anglo-Saxon '—
Jaccaci's ' On the Trail of Don Quixote '— Dasent's ' Ice-
landic Sagas,' Vols. III. and IV.— Frowde's Holy Bible and
Book of Common Prayer— Stimson's 'King Noanett'—
• Who 's Who.'
Notices to Correspondents.
« HISTORY OP PICKWICK;
(See 8* S. xi. 225.)
If a second edition of this work should be con-
templated, the following mistakes, in addition to
that noted by MR. FIRMAN, should be corrected.
They can all be verified by a reference to ' Pick-
wick Papers.'
P. 2. The list of "about twenty" principal
characters omits Mrs. Bardell.
P. 3. The list of " fifty or more " minor cha-
racters, omits Mrs. Eaddle and Mrs. Sanders :
two of those included are spelt incorrectly.
P. 14, 1. 2. " * Not content vith writin' up Pick-
wick, they puts lf Moses " afore it, vich I call
addin' insult to injury,' as he paused." Is " as he
paused " a misprint for " as the parrot"? If not,
what does it mean ? The quotation is incomplete.
P. 80. " Three of the guests secure tickets " (for
the Rochester ball). Who was the third ?
P. 83. The comparison between certain widely
detached portions in ' Pickwick ' and a story, * The
Great Winglebury Duel,' in * Sketches by Boz,
has nothing to recommend it but the inaccuracy oi
the details.
P. 86. Upwitch (who " was named after a little
town in Kent") and Goodwin (possibly so named
;< from the Goodwin Sands " !) are scarcely enough
to illustrate the alleged partiality of Dickens for
Kentish names.
P. 114. Mr. Pickwick did not propose to take
;he room occupied by the " precious trio " in the
Fleet : the only glimpse we get of the three
worthies results from the fact that he was "chummed
in" by Eoker to share it with them.
P. 116. There is no character named "Dosey"
in the ' Mudfog Papers.'
P. 118. The paragraph dealing with the letters
C/.M.P.C. is surely wrong from beginning to end.
If these letters had been placed after each name,
and explained " again and again in a note," as Mr.
Fitzgerald states, there would have been no neces-
sity to write the greater part of chapter i. In no
edition that I have seen are these letters, or the
notes explaining them, to be found at all.
P. 128. " A coach is upset in the snow," &c. No
incident of this kind occurs in ' Pickwick ': there
is obvious confusion with * Nicholas Nickleby.'
P. 130, The passage referring to Mrs. Bardell's
imprisonment is inaccurate : the " other members
of the party" were not "left unmolested"; nor
are we told that any of them but Mrs. Bardell
were to be locked up,
P. 134. " Addressing of you " does not become
" undressing " in Sam's valentine : coarseness of
this kind is foreign to the whole character.
P. 138. By way of emphasizing some incongruity
in Sam's utterances, he is credited with a remark
made by his father.
P. 140. The whole point of Count Smorl-
tork's (t note " (" The word Poltic surprises by
himself ") is lost by incorrect quotation.
P. 141. The remarks on the cricket match
should either be amended or omitted : they are
useless as elucidating anything in Dickens's extra-
ordinary description. There always were, are, and
will be, in double-wicket cricket, two bowlers,
"one for each wicket." On the other hand,
"notching" — especially if Muggleton is to be
identified with Town Mailing— must have become
obsolete ; and, according to the description, the
result of the match would be a draw.
P. 160. "The testy Dr. Tappleton" should be
" Dr. Payne."
P. 161. Mr. Pickwick had but two interviews
with Messrp. Dodson & Fogg : how he was " not
without difficulty restrained from assaulting " them
on " at least " three occasions, it would be difficult
to say.
P. 171. Sam's allusions to other members of his
family appear to be taken quite seriously, and lead
to some wonderful statements. A few sentences
bear quotation : —
' Few, save Pickwickian students, will recall that
Sam introduces allusions to other members of his family,
besides his father. That he had a brother ; an uncle
who drank himself to death ; that his mother's name was
Clarke; these matters being dropped naturally and care-
lessly, as they would be in real life, and not officially
announced by the narrator. Another ' hand ' would
have told us, ' Mr. Sam Weller was Mr. Weller's son by
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hia first wife, whose name was Clarke ; one of his brothers
had not turned out very well, and haying become addicted
to strong liquors, &o.' "
Mr. Fitzgerald, it may safely be said, is the only
" other hand " who would be likely to tell us these
things. With one exception (that of the " uncle "),
every statement in this passage is incorrect.
P. 179. Ridler's can scarcely be " a genuine old
Pickwickian tavern "; so far as I know, it is never
even alluded to.
P. 183. " Winkle and Tupman remained at Mrs.
Pott's, we are told, for two days after the break-
fast," &c. Mr, Winkle was there alone : hence
the conjugal scene between Pott and his wife. We
are told that Tupman and Snodgrass remained at
the " Peacock."
P. 184. The result of Mr. Fitzgerald's "chrono-
logy " is to make the Nupkins incidents happen on
a Sunday ; a reference to the " arrangements "
arrived at with Weller senior would have obviated
this mistake. Again, Sam's visit to Mrs. Bardell
is here dated "September 7th"; though in the
trial, when Sam is asked if he remembers " going
up to Mrs. Bardell's house, one night in November
last," he replies in the affirmative.
P. 195. Pott's eloquent "Hole and Corner
Buttery" here becomes "Hole and Corner Buf-
foonery " — not an improvement.
P. 203. Calverley's * Questions ' are, of course,
eulogized. "Even the most profound student
must feel his ignorance as he reads." There is
•ome ignorance, certainly. The questions quoted
are the ((more difficult" ones, and comprise less
than half of the total number. Yet there are two
mistakes (in Nos. 3 and 16), the first of which is
triumphantly repeated by Mr. Fitzgerald on p. 204.
These questions have been absurdly overrated :
even if they were correct in themselves, they offer
no unusual "difficulty."
P. 205. The "Oxford questions" are much
better ; though the examiner himself would cer-
tainly be unable to find a ( Goblin's Song,' or the
expression (( dash my vescoat," throughout the
book,
P. 232. « Mr. Winkle, in spite of his timidity
,,,.,, was prepared to 'go out' with Dowler." He
was not ; he ran away to avoid it— hence the
Bristol incidents. The best, in fact the only, in-
stance of Winkle's courage — the scene with his
father — is omitted by Mr. Fitzgerald.
P. 243. "Josiah Mudge" should, of course, be
*' Jonas Mudge."
P. 246. " There are three characters in the story
named Martin, the ' long gamekeeper,' the ( surly
man,' and the butcher (in the Fleet)." Betsy
Martin, " widow, one child and one eye," and the
bagman's uncle, Jack Martin, of whom is related
the best short story in the book, would make the
" three characters " five — the correct number.
P. 256. The comparison between Willis, in
•Watkins Tottle,' and Ayresleigh, like that on
p. 83, is incorrect, and therefore unnecessary.
P. 261. We read that a design illustrating the
discovery of the "Bill Stumps" inscription has
been used as an advertisement by the proprietors
of a patent medicine. The whole idea of this
picture is wrong. Pickwick should not be repre-
sented, "hia friends grouped about him": he was
walking with Tupman alone at the time.
P. 265. Phiz's "delightful frontispiece to 'Pick-
wick from Italy ' ' must be something of a rarity.
Pp. 268 to 272 are filled up with a numbered list
of 360 characters who appear in the course of the
story. Few people would care to read the book
for the sole purpose of adding to these figures.
There is, however, no reason why they should not
have been taken beyond the fourth hundred : it
would be quite easy to do this on the lines laid
down. " No. 13, Ponto." This was the wonder-
ful dog " owned " by Jingle. And if a dog, why
not a horse — the " tall horse/' for example, or the
forty- two-year-old cab- horse to whom we are in-
debted for the introduction of Jingle 1 There are
omissions everywhere ; and some of them, whether
of man or beast, would certainly be required to
compensate for the frequent "doubling" of a single
part which is a feature of the list. Nos. 10 and
16 (Jingle and his "Handsome Englishman")*
Nos. 28 and 29 ("Dismal Jemmy" and the
" Stroller "), Nos. 50 and 51 (Miller and the " hard-
headed man "), are early examples of this. There
is, indeed, " nothing like it on record."
Pp. 273 and 274 contain a numbered list of the
" scenes and episodes which form the narrative,"
the omissions from which would form a goodly list
by themselves. On p. 274 there is " No. 19, Mrs.
Pott's party": this should, of course, be "Mrs.
Leo Hunter's party."
Pp. 337 to 339 contain the third, and last, num-
bered list — of the inns. "How many inns will
the reader suppose are introduced in ' Pickwick ' ?
They are twenty- two in number ! " Then
comes the list, from which the following are
omitted : the tavern at which Mr. Pickwick first
meets Weller senior, the " Blue Boar," Leadenhall
Market (where Sam indites, and his father corrects,
the valentine), the " White Horse Cellar " (where
the party, on leaving for Bath, make the acquaint-
ance of Dowler), the Portugal Street inn (the
headquarters of Solomon Pell), the " Black Boy,"
Ohelmsford, and Sergeant's Inn Coffee-House.
The omissions are here nearly one-third of the list
itself.
Another edition will certainly be necessary, if
this c History ' is ever to be taken seriously. If it
is not, the author's remark (p. 308), that " as the
Bentleys and Wakefields contended fiercely over a
dot or particle, so our Pickwickian controversialists
find themselves hotly engaged over all that touches
the exactness and due authenticity of the text,'
8M>S.XI.MiTl,'97.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
343
should be omitted. Much of the ' History ' deals
with other subjects, of more or less relative value ;
but whenever the text is mentioned one may look
for, and generally find, some mistake. Thus it is
evident that, while the present amount of " exact-
ness " would be quite sufficient for the writing of a
new ' Pickwick,' it is not enough for any 'History'
of the old one. GEORGE MARSHALL.
Sefton Park, Liverpool.
SHAKSPEARIANA.
CCYMBELINE,' IV. u. 333-4 (8th S. xi. 224),—
The retention in the text of the initial words " To
them " of the captain's speech may be upheld for
the following reasons. In III. vii. we have a con-
ference between Senators and Tribunes as to the
legions to be appointed for service in Britain.
Three bodies of troops are then mentioned :
(1) The force remaining in Gallia. (2) Another
force, the subject of a supposed preceding con-
ference. (3) A further supplementary levy to be
made under a commission to the Tribunes. Taking
the speech in question to be a continuation of a
conversation commenced before the actual presence
of the actors on the stage, a reference may be made
to a junction of the first two bodies and their being
in readiness at Milford Haven, the third body
being " the confiners and gentlemen of Italy under
conduct of bold lachimo shortly expected. In
the Cambridge Shakespeare the reading "To them7'
as a stage direction is relegated to the foot-notes
as by "Anon. conj. and Spence conj. (*N. & Q./
1880)." B. 0.
•HAMLET,' I. i. 158 (8"> S. xi. 224).— The
context forbids any other interpretation than that
the "bird of dawning" is the cock. The ob-
jection to chanticleer's vocal exertion being called
" singing " is trivial. Shakespeare used the word
for the sake of dignity, and he is not the first poet
who has employed " crowing " and " singing " in
like contiguity. J. B. S, will find examples of this
alternation in Chaucer's ( Nonne Prest his Tale,'
from which I select only the following, according
to the Aldine edition : —
Chaunteclere so free
Sang metier than the meremayd in the see (450) ;
but when he spied the fox lying in wait for him,
No thing ne list him thanne for to crowe (456).
The belief that cockcrow is a summons for spirits
to vanish is very ancient. Thus, in St. Ambrose's
hymn, ^JEterne rerum conditor'i —
Prteco diei jam sonat
Jubarque soils evocat.
Hoc excitatus Lucifer
Solvit polum caligine ;
Hoc omnis erronum Conors
Viam nocendi deserit*
The cock ia a figure of Christ. To quote Pru-
dentius : —
Vox ista, qua strepunt aves
Stantes sub ipso culmine
Paulo ante quam lux emicet,
Nostri figura est judicis.*
In this connexion I may give the following from
Aubrey's * Eemaines of Gentilisme ' (p. 34) : —
" I remember before y« civill warres* ancient people
had some pious ejaculation wnen the Cock did
crow, wth did putt them in mind of y6 Trumpet at y*
Resurrection."
But J. B. S. will find a full discussion of cock-
crowing, together with a reference to the above-cited
Shakespearian passage, in Brand's 'Antiquities'
(ii. 51, Bohn). F. ADAMS.
106A, Albany Road, Camberwell,
Undoubtedly Shakespeare's " bird of dawning M
was the cook. The whole passage proves it. As
for calling the cock's " tantalizing vocal efforts "
singing, this is just what they are called J —
Chaunteclere so free
Sang merier than the meremayd in the see j
For Phisiologus seith sicurly,
How that they syngen wel and merily.
Chaucer, ' The Nonne Prest his Tale.'
In Miss Phipson's ' Animal- Lore of Shakespeare's
Time' we are referred to Mr. J. E. Harting's
* Ornithology of Shakespeare ' for illustrations of
'' the popular notion that ghosts vanished at the sound
of cock-crowing, and that consequently no spirit dare
stir abroad at Christmas time, since at that period of
the year Chanticleer clamours the livelong night."
C. C. B.
1 HAMLET,' I. iv. 36 (8** S. x. 23, 70 ; xi. 223).
—"Fall" for "let fall" is not even obsolescent
in Liverpool and the neighbourhood, but of daily
—I might say hourly — occurrence. 0. C. B.
THE SONNETS : THE TWO OBELI IN THE GLOBE
EDITION (8th S. x. 450; xi. 223).— "Hopes'* in
the sense of "expectations" subsists to the pre-
sent day in French. Where we say that a person
has expectations from a relative, a Frenchman says
he has " des espe'rances." SHERBORNE.
"QUARTERN-LAND."— I meet with this word for
the first time in an endorsement of an old deed
relating to land at Earl's Barton, in Northampton-
shire. The meaning is obvious ; it is the quarter
of a yard-land or virgate. In 1609, John Wei-
ford, of Cogenhoe, or Cucknoe, purchased for 761.
half a yard-land of arable and pasture in the fields
of Earl's Barton, " containing twelve acres arable
and ley ground and one acre and a quarter of a
rood of meadow," with commonable rights, stinted
to two beasts and twenty sheep. In January,
1638/9, his son and his widow joined in a deed
conveying one-half of this half yard-land to John
Warren, and it is at the back of this latter deed that
the term " quartern-land " appears. I do not find
* • Hymnus ad Galli Cantum,' 13.
344
NOTES AND QUERIES. [a* s. xi. MAY i, '97,
the word in any of the copious references to land
measure that occur though the Third, Fourth, and
Fifth Series of * N. & Q.' As an illustration of
the manner in which common field property was
held and transferred, the recital of the separate
strips is most interesting : —
[Endorsed, "Feoffment of Quartern-land in Barton
Commons."] "1638. This Indenture made the one and
thirtith day of Januarye in the fourteenth yeare of the
Raigne of our soveraigne Lorde Charles by the grace of
God &c. Betwene Richarde Wellforde of Ecton in the
county of Northampton yeoman and Marierye Wellforde
of Earls Barton in the county aforesaide widdowe
naturall mother of him the said Richarde Wellforde of
th'one p'tye and John Warren of Earls Barton black-
smith of th'other p'tye Wittnesaeth That they the said
Richarde Wellforde and Marierye Wellforde [for fifty
pounds paid by Warren, &c.] Have granted bargained
soldo alyened enfeoffed released and confirmed &c. vnto
the said John Warren and to his heirs and assignes for-
ever All that one quarterne or fourth p'te of one yard-
land of arrable lands leys meaddow lesues pasture and
grassground (be it more or lesse) scituate lying and
beinge disp'sed in the territories feilds meaddowes parish
and precincts of Earls Barton aforesaid herein hereafter
p'ticularly menc'oned expressed and contayned as fol-
loweth (that is to say) ffirst in the Westcleyfielde one
hallfe ley being all the west end of the same ley Marierye
Wellford south next the Boonehyde baulke Peter lemea
north lyinge at Brakenburgh Itm one land on Stincking-
lands Robart Whifetwoorth south Richard Harris north
Itm one land on Ectonbrooke furlonge neare vnto Water-
galles the Boonehyde baulke south George Attwell north
Itm one haulfe ley beinge all the north end of the same
ley in Whinnes Mathew Nicholls east Mariery Wellford
west In Hadwell feilde first one land at Colltsfirzes next
the Boonehyde baulke east ffrancis Howoorth west Itm
one little land on the westsyde Syke gutter shooting
uppon the hadland of John Nicholls at the west end Mr.
Barnard south Robarte Whittwoorth north Itm one land
on the same furlonge shootinge into Broadway Boone-
hyde baulke south Robarte Whitwoorth north Itm one
land on the eastsyde Syke gutter next the grassgrounde
of Robarte ffarrow west Robarte Wade east In Andes-
dale feilde one through land in Broadhome George
Attwell west Nathaniell Meidburye east Itra one third
p te land in Broadhome Nathaniell Meidburye west
Thomas Harris of AshbyMears east In the Easte Ryefeilde
one hallfe acre land lyinge beyonde Elldernestumpe
Robarte Whittwoorth south Robarte ffarrow north In the
Weste Ryefeilde one hallfe acre land lying on Wrang-
lands th'aforesaid Thomas Harris east Thomas Blewitt
west Itm three lands lyinge together shootinge into
Wathway Thomas Blewitt south the baulke north Itm
one hallfe acre and a quarterne of roode of meaddowe
lyinge together in Killhome meaddowe Nathaniell Meid-
burye east Richard Harris west Itm the moytye or one
hallfe p'te of one lesue in the Thorphydeat Ashbybrooke
Ltm the moytie or one hallfe p'te of one lesue in the
Thorphyde at Ectonbrooke Together w'th com'on and
com'on of pasture for one cowe and tenne sheepe trees
willowes fallowes thornes bushes firzes hads ends wayes
passages easements proffitts com'odities hereditaments
and app'ten'nc's whatsoever vnto th'aforesayde quarterne
of a yard land before menc'oned to be granted or to any
p'te or p'cell thereof belonginge or in anywyse app'tayn-
J"8e and nowe in the tenure or occupation of Joseph
Wale of Earls Barton aforesaid weaver," &c.
It is evident from the deed of 1609 that a
virgate of land at Earl's Barton comprised twenty-
six acres (for I suppose the quarter of a rood of
meadow does not affect the measurement) and that
" quartern-land " meant, in that pariah at least,
six and a half acres. KICH. WELFORD.
THE CHEVALIER D'EON, — Many and various
descriptions of this once famous personage (mascu-
line or feminine as occasion seems to have served)
have been printed in the various volumes of
' N. & Q.'; and the following may be interesting
now, when some curious further discoveries have
been made : 4th S. ii. 131, 215, 236, 278, 351 ;
5th S. ii. 160, 200 ; Guillardet's * Memoires,' 5tb
S. viii. 309, 377 ; and papers relating to him, 5th
S. ix. 307, 339. The most remarkable details are,
however, now very numerous and valuable, and
are preserved in the ( Historical Manuscripts Com-
mission, Fifteenth Report,' Appendix, pt. ii. The
manuscripts of J. Eliot Hodgkin, Esq., F.S.A.,
have been very carefully and completely examined,
from pp. 351 to 368 (or in dates from 1757 to
1808 ?). The masses of papers are singularly inter-
esting, and have been carefully copied by Mr. John
Oordy Jeafferson for future readers. ESTE,
A CONTEMPORARY BUST OF SHAKSPEARE. ~
More than thirty years ago my late wife took me
to call on Prof. Owen, at his pleasant little house
in Eichmond Park. We found him in a state of
considerable excitement, for he told us he believed
he had found a contemporary bust of Shakspeare,
which was, indeed, enough to agitate any man.
We asked to see the treasure, and there was pro-
duced, in terra-cotta, a likeness much resembling
what is known as the Chandos portrait of the great
poet. We wondered, and I fancy said nothing,
for Owen was not a man with whom to dispute on
such a matter ; and I now could fancy that the
whole occurrence was a dream.
ALFRED GATTT, D.D.
THE TURKEY.— Although even the schoolboy
knows that the turkey was originally imported from
America, a note in Mr. Thomson's recently pub-
lished 'The Outgoing Turk' gives so ample and
conclusive an explanation of the misnomer that it
would, I think, be worth while to transfer his note
(p. 113) to the columns of ' N. & Q.' He writes :
" In Johnson's ' Dictionary ' the turkey is said to be a
large domestic fowl supposed to be brought from Turkey,
but it is now known that it was in reality brought, not
from Turkey, but from Americe, where two species are
met with — the meleagris gallo-pavo and the meleagris
ocellata, the native names for which are guajolote and
guanajo. Prescott mentions that when the Spaniards
discovered Mexico they came upon immense flocks of
turkeys, which they called pavo, from its resemblance
to the peacock, the Mexican variety having brilliant
iridescent eye-spots in the tail. He says that some
writers had asserted them to be of African or Asiatic
origin, but that Buffon had effectually disposed of that
fallacy, and that they were certainly brought into Europe
by the Spaniards after th c conquest of Mexico in 1518 ;
but he does not suggest any reason for their having
g. xi. MAY 1, '97.]
NOTES AND QUERIES,
345
acquired the name of ' turkey,' a name so common in the
languages of Europe that it would seem at first sight to
point conclusively to an Eastern origin. The Serbs and
the Bosnians call it tilrke, like ourselves, and in Ger-
many it is known as trut hahn, or lilrTcischer hahn. The
Italians and French, however, call it, not a Turkish, but
an Indian fowl, the Italian name being gallo d' India
and the French d'lnde, a turkey-cock being a coq d'lnde;
and, curiously enough, both in Turkey and in Arabia it
is known as the Hindu fowl. How, then, did it come to
be introduced into all these countries from the East,
when it really came from the West ? I think the ex-
planation is to be found in the name given to the bird
in India; peru being neither Sanscrit nor Persian,
but Portuguese ; so that it was evidently introduced into
the country by the Portuguese. What happened was
probably this : when the Spaniards discovered Mexico
they brought some of the birds back with them to Spain,
where they increased rapidly, and were taken for food
upon other voyages because they are larger than fowls,
and give more food without taking up a great deal more
room, an important matter in the small ships of that
time. In this way they found their way to Bombay, and
were brought thence to Italy by the Venetians, so that
in Italy and in France (it was the time of the French
wars in Italy) they became known as the birds from India.
For the same reason they obtained a similar name in
Turkey and in Arabia. But they were evidently intro-
duced into England and Germany, not direct from India
or from Venice, but from Constantinople, between which
city, even after the Turks had taken possession of it,
and England there was always a considerable amount
of trade. So that in these countries it acquired the
name, not of the Indian, but of the Turkish fowl or
' turkey.' It is an instance of the rapidity with which
anything which is really of use will spread over the
world. The potato, for instance, and maize, and tobacco,
were all introduced from America, and in an incredibly
short time were common all over the East. That the
turkey must have spread with almost equal rapidity is
proved by Shakespeare mentioning it, though he lived
so short a time after the discovery of Mexico. He only
speaks of it twice, but he does so in the casual way which
shows that it had already become a common domestic
fowl, In ' Henry V.' Gower says of Pistol, ' See, here he
comes, swelling like a turkey-cock.' And in 'Twelfth
Night ' Fabian says, ' Oh, peace, contemplation makes a
rare turkey-cock of him. How he jets under his advanced
plumes.' It is odd that the Portuguese should have
called it peru, instead of pavo like the Spaniards. They
may have got it from Peru, and not from Mexico, or
they may have picked it up in Brazil, where it is called
pavo de peru, for their ships were often driven there by
the trade winds when on the way to India."
HENRY ATTWELL.
Barnes.
"NoT WORTH A TINKER'S CDRSE."— Tinkers do
curse and swear ! At least they used to do when
going about the villages mending pots and pans.
Tinkers may be put amongst the bygone institutions
of the country, for tinkers are few and far between
nowadays. The one I most remember as a lad
would be considered a curiosity now. He carried
a complete " tinker's kit," his outfit comprising a
bass of tools of all sorts, sheets and bits of tin,
copper, brass, and iron, "soder" and "sodering-
irons, ' and a small " brayzer," in which he made
the fire for " hotting "—not heating— his soldering-
iron. This one came in the summer time* and,
fixing his kit — his workshop— under a tree at the
four lanes' end, was soon busily employed mending
pots and pans brought to him from every house;
He swore much, ate largely of bread and bacon,
and drank pots of beer from the alehouse hard by.
But why are things " not worth a tinker's curse"?
In the case of my tinker, nobody heeded his strings
of oaths, though they certainly were "red-hot," as
folks said. THOS. KATCLIFFE.
Workaop.
BE*RANGER AND WILLIAM MORRIS. — There is
very little affinity between the genius of B^ranger
and that of Morris, but there is a remarkable
resemblance between the refrain of an apologetic
song by the French poet and the ' Apology * pre-
facing the English poet's 'Earthly Paradise,
Be"ranger styles himself a humble songster, and
implores 1 —
Ah ! pardonne* au pauvre chanaohnieti
William Morris, in a similar strain, writes :—
Pardon me,
Who strives to build a shadowy isle of bliss
Midmost the beating of the steely sea,
Where tossed about the hearts of men must be>
Whose ravening monsters mighty men shall slay-*
Not the poor singer of an empty day,
1 Apology,' ' Earthly Paradise.'
I do not suppose Morris ever read Be"ranger, but
the coincidence is remarkable. JOHN HEBB.
Willesden Green.
"BAR SINISTER."— Perusal of 'The Martian*
shows that the name of Du Maurier is to be added
to those of the novelists (among whom are Sir
Walter Scott and Thackeray) who have used this
expression to denote illegitimacy. Eeaders of
' N. & Q.' are well aware that in English heraldry
such a term is void of meaning ; also that, if a
bend sinister ever indicated illegitimacy, the pre-
sent indication is a bordure wavy, or in a case of
royal origin a baton sinister. It would seem as if
each of these authors had in his mind at the time
of writing some usage other than English, by which
the bar or its equivalent was used in the sense of
our bend, and by which also, being thus potentially
sinister, it was applied to the purpose in question.
There is nothing, I believe, in what is known of the
etymology of " bar " to restrict its position.
KlLLIGREW.
Cairo.
M. GOUTELLARD. — I suppose this name must be
quite unknown to the average reader of ' N. & Q.*
It is that of the head valet of the late Emperor of
the French. I have not read Zola's * La Debacle,*
and I did not see much of the discussion on the
rougeing incident which ensued on its appearance,
but I saw no mention of Goutellard in what little of
it I did see. It is true he did not long survive his
august and, by him and his family, revered master,
346
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[8«» S. XI. MAY 1, '97.
and so was not at that time available for reference,
had confirmation been sought of him. He was a
quiet, well-conducted, unassuming, intelligent man,
of amiable disposition and gentlemanly manners,
without either priggishness or servility.
THOMAS J, JEAKES.
MANIPLE BORNE BY ST. LEONARD. —
" There is a remarkable statuette of alabaster in tbe
Cambridge Museum of Archaeology, which, originally
formed part of a retable in Whittlesford Church, Cam-
bridgeshire. In this figure, which is clad in Eucharistic
vestments, the maniple is absent, and its place seems to
be supplied by a chain suspended over the right wrist.
This may, however, represent some such saint as St.
Leonard, whose emblem is a chain and manacles ; in
which it is just possible that the sculptor omitted the
maniple to avoid the inartistic symmetry which would
result from its insertion." — 'Ecclesiastical Vestments,'
by B. A. 8. Macalister, 1895, p. 77, foot-note.
However this may be, St. Leonard is represented
on the mace of the Faculty of Arts of St. Andrews
University (made circa 1419) as an abbot, " with
two fingers of his right hand elevated, as if in the
act of blessing, and with his crosier in his left
hand. Two links of a chain are attached to his
left wrist." There is no maniple, seemingly. Pro-
ceedings of the Society of Antiquaries of Scotland,
vol. xxvii. p. 449 ; see also plate iv. No. 2, p. 445.
WILLIAM GEORGE BLACK.
." — It is strange that Jamieson, in
his ' Dictionary of the Scottish Language,' does not
give a second instance of the use of this word in
Wyntoun's ' Chronicle of Scotland ' — a use much
more interesting to Shakespeare students than the
one he quotes. It might, even as it stands, be taken
as a proper name, as well as that of a common name
for a fool, blockhead, or worthless person, in the
passage regarding the fall of Macbeth :—
And owre the Mountli thai chast liyra than
Til the wode off Lunfanan
This Makduff wea thare mast fell,
And that chas than mast crwelle.
Bot a knycht that in that chas
Til this Makbeth than nerest was ;
Makbeth turnyd hym agayne,
And sayd " Lurdane, thou prykys in vayne
For thou may noucht be he, 1 trowe,
That to dede sail sla me nowe.
That man is nowcbt borne off wyfl
Off powere to reive me off my lyffe.
Bk. yi. chap, xviii. IK 2229-2240.
This clearly shows that Macduff was not the
knight who killed Macbeth in earlier Scottish
histories, in which there is no mention of the mur-
der of Lady Macduff. It remained for Boece to
record the one fact, and invent a poetic retri-
bution in Macduff's triumph over his former king.
CHARLOTTE CARMICHAEL STOPES.
GEORGE PHILLIPS (1593-1644), NONCONFORMIST
DIVINE AND COLONIST.— He was admitted sizar of
of Caius College, Cambridge, 10 April, 1610, at.
seventeen, as the son of Christopher Philips, of
South Rainham, Norfolk. (Venn, 'Admissions
to Gonville and Caius College in the University of
Cambridge,' 1887, p. 115.) He graduated B.A. in
1613 and proceeded M.A. in 1617. This note
will serve as an addition to the account of him
appearing in ' Diet. Nat. Biog./ xlv. 200.
DANIEL HIPWELL.
HORACE WALPOLE AND HIS EDITORS : JOHN
AND FRANCIS CHUTE.— In a letter to Mann (Cun-
ningham's edition, vol. i. p. 366), dated 24 June,
1745, Horace Walpole writes : " I feel excessively
for you, my dear child, on the loss of Mr. Chute !
So sensible and good-natured a man would be a
loss to anybody." Before the name Chute, Cun-
ningham has inserted in the text in brackets
[Francis]. Francis Chute, a well-known lawyer
and Member of Parliament, and elder brother of
Horace Walpole's friend and correspondent John
Chute, had died in April of this year (1745) (see
vol. i. p. 351), two months before the date of the
letter now under consideration.
The allusion here is not to the death of Francis
Chute, as Cunningham's interpolation implies, but
to the departure from Florence of John Chute, who
had resided in that city for some years on terms of
the closest intimacy with Horace Mann. That this
is the allusion is obvious from what Horace Wal-
pole says further on in the same letter, where he
mentions " Mr. Chute's leaving you.w
After visiting other Italian towns, John Chute
went back to Florence for a short time previous to
his return to England, to which allusion is made
in a subsequent letter to Mann, dated 2 Oct., 1746
(vol. ii. p. 58). HELEN TOTNBEE.
"THE DEATH-CART." — This name is given to
any mysterious rumbling sound, as of a cart passing,
for which there is no apparent cause. It is an
omen of death. The other day a cottager's wife
was met in the street here crying and wringing her
hands in great distress. She said she had heard
the death-cart, and knew her mother was dead,
but was going to see. The omen in this case
proved a false one, however. C. 0. B»
Epworth.
BEDS IN THE HALL.— In Mr. Hudson Turner's
* Domestic Architecture in England,1 1851, p. 2,
it is said that not only were meals taken in the
hall, but the followers and servants of the owner
" slept in it on the floor, a custom the practice of
which is shown by numerous passages in early
authors, particularly in the works of the romance
writers." There is no doubt that Mr. Turner's
statement is correct, and I should be much obliged
if any reader of * N. & Q.' could give one or two
quotations from early English authors on this sub-
ject. I am acquainted with what Aubrey said in
the seventeenth century, and also with passages in
Icelandic sagas and in Beowulf. Turner gives no
references, S. O. ADDY.
8«" S. XI. MiY 1, -97.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
347
We must request correspondents desiring information
on family matters of only private interest to affix their
names and addresses to their queries, in order that the
answers may be addressed to them direct.
" THE GREATEST HAPPINESS OP THE GREATEST
NUMBER." — "Of this phrase," says the Edinburgh
Review of July, 1895, p. 224, "Hutcheson was
the original author." Mr. B. Kidd, ' Social Evo-
lution,' T. 290, says, "The key to the political
system of Bentham was expressed in a single
phrase of Priestley's — 'the greatest happiness of
the greatest number7 — long a prominent doctrine
in English politics." I shall be glad to be referred
to the actual first appearance of the phrase, in
Hutcheson, Priestley, or somebody else.
J. A, H. MURRAY.
Oxford.
ARMS OP UNITED STATES. — During a recent
visit to a relative in North England I was much
entertained and puzzled to find, on my hostess
drawing attention to it, that the table napkin I
had been using bore a very remarkable pattern. It
is a representation of the American eagle, though
in quite another guise from that with which I am
familiar as in heraldic use at present. The bird of
freedom clutches in its dexter claw an olive branch
and in its sinister a thunderbolt, just as it does
officially until this day, but the stars are not on a
chief across the breast. They are thirteen in num-
bor, distributed between the motto " E pluribus
unum" and the eagle's head and wings. The
eagle's body bears, instead of the starry chief and
paly base as now used, what might be described in
more or less heraldic terms as a chief barry of (I
think) thirteen and a base bendy sinister of the
same number.
What seems at first sight to invest with some
faint historical interest this early, however un-
authoritative or merely popular, variant of the stars
and stripes is the existence of an English motto
below, in addition to the Latin one above. This
second motto reads, " We offer Peace, Ready for
War," a legend naturally applicable to the sug-
gestion of the alternative claw. I shall be very
grateful to any good American, or student of things
American, who will lend me aid towards unravel-
ling this problem of a serviette. Inquiries regarding
Us provenance elicited the fact that it had been
long in the possession of the family, having been
handed down from an old lady in Northumberland
whose death occurred somewhere about 1809. The
linen I am assured is pure and very good, though
not superfine — it is whole linen, as the ends show,
not a thread of cotton running through it. My
questions are sundry. To what date does this
curious memorial belong? Is it likely to have
been of American manufacture, or only to have
been manufactured for America? To what does
its second motto refer ? And where shall I find an
account of the earlier forms, if there were any, of
the American heraldic eagle when it was mewing
its mighty youth ? There be, saith Stow, " weavers
of divers sorts : to wit of drapery or tapery and
napery." But how far the makers of table linen
have gone in writing American and British history
with their looms since honest John's day is a
question, perhaps, too extensive even for the
world-encircling erudition of many-headed *N. &Q.'
Patriotism has ten thousand ways in which to ex-
press itself; but my final wonder is whether it has
often treated itself to heraldic ebullitions on the
drapery, tapery, or napery of the dining-table.
GEO. NEILSON.
Glasgow*
HAND-STOCKING.— A writer on 'The Poetry
of Provincialisms' in the Cornhill (July, 1865),
pp. 30 tqq., says (p. 39) :—
"It is pleasant to go forth into some of the quiet
nooks which may be found in the Midland and Northern
counties, and hear such primitive- sounding words aa
' bell-house ' for tower, 'wall-root' for the bottom of a
wall, ' hand- stocking' for mitten, 'nail-passer for gim-
let, and ' overtune ' for the burden of a song."
I shall be glad to know where " hand-stocking " is,
or was, used for "mitten." I do not find it in
the E.D.S. glossaries that I have at hand.
y. v.
LADY BARTLETT.— A friend of mine in the
United States has bought a portrait, by Fraocis
Cotes, who died in 1770, of a "Lady Bartlett."
May I ask if any of your readers can tell him any-
thing about her ? Cotes painted but few portraits
in oil, crayons being his speciality.
0. H. HILL.
Grosvenor Club.
HOTHAM, OP DALTON.— I should be very grate-
ful if any of your readers could tell me who was
the wife of the Rev. Charles Hotham, Hector of
Wigan, eldest son of Sir John Hotham, first baronet,
by his second wife, Anne Eokeby. I should be
very glad of a pedigree of this family as far as
Elizabeth, daughter of Sir Charles Hotham, who
married Sir Thomas Style, fourth baronet, circa
1700. KACHEL DE SALIS.
Dawley Court, Uxbridge.
* DUBLIN GAZETTE.'— I am anxious to know
where a set of the Dublin Gaxette from 1731
1867 can be consulted. If not a complete set, any
odd years might prove useful. Perhaps some of
your readers will help me.
E. H. W. DUNKIN.
5, Therapia Road, Honor Oak.
THOMAS BRAEME, CIRCA 1540.— Information
requested as to the person, family, and descendants
of Thomas Braeme, who married Amphilis Newdi-
348
NOTES AND QUERIES.
S. XI, MAY 1, '97.
gate, daughter of Sebastian Newdigate, who after-
wards became a Carthusian monk, and suffered
for his faith in 1535. Sebastian was a son of John
Newdigate, King's Sergeant, of Hare6eld, near
Rickmansworth. Dom BEDE CAMM, O.S.B.
St. Thomas's Abbey, Erdington, near Birmingham.
WALLIS FAMILY,— I wish to know if the motto
of the Irish Wallises, " Non nobis nascimur," can
be traced to the Scotch Wallaces. It is well
known that William Wallace was the most un-
selfish of patriots ; and I cannot help thinking there
must have been some connexion between the two.
The Irish Wallises had a good coat of arms. The
Wallises were connected with the Usshers, the
Ponsonbys, and Brabazons, &c.
MART S. TATE.
ETCHING,— In Knight's Shakespeare (1839), at
the end of * Romeo and Juliet,' is an etching of
the ancient allegory of * Love and the Soul.' Can
any reader inform me who is the painter of this,
and where the original picture is ? I have an oil
painting of this (probably a copy), and would like
to know something about artist, date, &c., of
original. A reply direct will oblige.
F. ROBERTS.
9, Falcon Avenue, London, E.G.
ENGRAVERS OF THE VICTORIAN ERA.— I shall
be very grateful if any of the readers of * N. & Q.'
will give me the dates of birth and death of the
following engravers.
G. Hollis, one of the Turner line engravers.
D. Wilson, who engraved the * Ancient Car-
thage.' He went to America, but visited England
about twenty years ago.
William Henry Watt, who engraved Landseer's
* Pets.' I have an idea that he is the same man
as James Henry Watt, who died in 1867, and
that an error has been made on the * Pets ' plate.
William Henry Egleton, who engraved historical
stipple plates about forty years ago.
W. Richardson, who engraved two line plates
ftf!ierD S' ,PiU' R'S*A( A™E™ON GRAVES.
Q, Pall Mall.
of Lord Carteret. If so, her bright and brilliant
career ended in 1745, some eighteen months after
marriage, and when she was under twenty-five
years of age. She may also have been the Sophia
of ' The Letters of Portia to her Daughter Sophia,'
though these were apparently not published till
years later. MEDLEY.
THE BIRTHPLACE OP BYRON. — We are in a bit
of a quandary as to the actual house in Holies
Street, Cavendish Square, where the illustrious
poet was born. Can any of the readers of ' N. & Q.'
put us right, and thus set the matter at rest once
and for all ? Numbers 24 and 6 both claim the
honour. Upon the walls of the first-named it is
proposed, after long delay, to affix another tablet,
notifying that as the true site. It would be a
pity, however, were the medallion placed upon
the wrong spot. Should it be proved beyond
question that No. 6 was the real one, the indica-
tion would be of infinitely greater value, as that,
from its appearance, is likely to have been the
original house, whereas No. 24 was twice razed
within the past fifty years. CECIL CLARKE.
Authors' Club.
"CONSENSUS FACIT MATRIMONIUM." — What is
the origin of this maxim ; and in what works can
it be found fully discussed ? Is it a principle of
Roman law, or a Church canon, or what ?
KOM OMBO.
«' SOPHIA, A LADY OP QUALITY."— Who was
Sophia, a Lady of Quality"? Under this
pseudonym there was published an able pamphlet
in 1739, corrected in 1740. Its title was * Woman
not inferior to Man ; or, a Short and Modest Vindi-
cation of the Natural Right of the Fair Sex to a
Perfect Equality of Power, Dignity, and Esteem
with the Men.' This brought forth, from evidently
V\ f\ Wt f\ f\ w* »-v\ rt I « A . - i 1^ j. 1 _ 1 j* / -m r f^. _ *
— — j — •
Man.' The three books were pobluhedTo late as
1749, under the title of 'Beauty's Triumphs'
Lhere seems just a possibility that " Sophia " may
have been Lady Sophia Fermor, the second wife
DEDICATIONS TO ST. ROQUE IN ENGLAND. —
This saint, otherwise known as St. Roch or Roche,
was popular in Scotland in mediaeval times, and
was invoked here, as elsewhere, in seasons of pesti-
lence. Five chapels were dedicated to him north
of the Tweed, viz., at Edinburgh, Dundee, Stirling,
Paisley, and Glasgow. In the last-mentioned city
the district of St. Rollox derived its name from
his chapel, which stood outside the Stable-Green
Port, to the north of the cathedral, near the head of
what is now Castle Street. St. Roque's Day in
the calendar is 16 August. There is some uncer-
tainty as to the date of his death. Alban Butler
says : —
"We find this eminent servant of God honoured,
especially in France and Italy, amongst the most illus-
trious saints in the fourteenth century, soon after his
death; nevertheless, says F. Berthier, we have no
authentic history of his life. All that we can affirm
concerning him is that he was born of a noble family at
Montpellier, and making a pilgrimage of devotion to
Rome, he devoted himself in Italy to serve the sick
during a raging pestilence. Maldurus says this happened
at Placentia. Falling himself sick, and unable to assist
others, and shunned and abandoned by the whole world,
he made a shift to crawl, rather than walk, into a neigh-
bouring forest, where a dog used to lick his pores. He
bore incredible pains with patience and holy joy, and
God was pleased to restore him to his health. He
returned into France, and in the practice of austere
penance and the most fervent piety and charity he wore
out his last years at Montpellier, where he died, as is
commonly said, in 1327, Some postpone hia death to the
8th 8. XI. MAT 1, (97.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
349
decline of that century, and think he went into Italy
only in 134S, when historians mention that a pestilence
made dreadful havock in that country. His body was
translated from Montpellier to Venice in 1485, where it
is kept with great honour in a beautiful church ; but
certain portions of his relicks are shown at Rome, Aries,
and other places."
I shall be obliged to any reader of * N. & Q.' who
can supply a list of the churches dedicated to
Sfc. Roque south of the Tweed.
J. M. MACKINLAY, F.S.A.
4, Weatbourne Gardens, Glasgow.
SCIENCE IN THE CHOIR. — Under this headline
Dr. J. F. S. Gordon, in his book ' The Cathedral
of Saint Keutigern, Glasgow/ has the following
paragraph : —
" About forty years ago, one of the Professors of Glas-
gow University had a large cast iron ball suspended,
vibrating for months, from north to south, by a wire
attached high up in the Central Tower, and let down in
front of the Rood Screen. It was meant to test and
exemplify the oscillations of the pendulum. There is
the consolatory counterpoise that such accommodating
way and means of illustrating science is not likely to
occur within these consecrated precincts for many a long
day henceforward ; albeit history has strange freaks by
repeating itself."
Disagreeing in toto with the line of thought
presented in the last sentence of the above para-
graph, yet I should be glad to be advised of any
other instances where buildings set apart for the
formal observance of any religious belief have been
utilized, on account of theii special construction
or adaptability, by scientific investigators.
R. HEDGEE WALLACE.
CAMOENS, LOPE DE VEGA, AND THE SIEGE OF
COLOMBO. — In Burton's ' Camoens : his Life and
his Lusiads,' vol. i. p. 93, is the following : —
"Some eighty years after Camoens' death the Con-
quistadores, while besieging Colombo (1660), where
'Portuguese bravery blazed with an expiring flame,'
consoled their wants and weary toils by singing and
reciting, says Lope de Vega, patriotic and heroic stanzas
from the Lusiads."
Can any reader of ' N. & Q.' tell me whence the
words quoted by Burton are taken, and also where
Lope de Vega says what Burton attributes to him ?
I may point out that Burton has made at least
two extraordinary blunders ; for, in the first place,
the Portuguese never beseiged Colombo, nor was
there any siege of that town in 1660 (the Dutch
siege took place in 1655-56) ; and, in the second
place, as Lope de Vega died in 1635, he could
hardly have referred so explicitly to an event that
took place twenty-five years after his decease.
DONALD FEBGUSON.
5, Bedford Place, Croydon.
CHALLENGE TO THE CHAMPION OP ENGLAND.
-In Brady's * Clavis Calendaria,' vol. ii. p. 180,
col. 3, the following appears : —
" A ludicrous circumstance occurred at the coronation
of King William and Queen Mary. Charles Dymock,
Esquire, who then exercised the right of being champion,
cast his gauntlet on the pavement in the usual form, and
the challenge was proclaimed, when an old woman, who
bad entered the Hall on crutches, immediately took it
up, and quitted the spot with extraordinary agility,
leaving her crutches behind her, and a female glove,
with a challenge to meet the champion the next day in
Hyde Park. Accordingly the old woman, or, as it is
generally supposed, a good swordsman in that disguise,
attended at the hour and place named in the challenge ;
but the champion did not make his appearance, nor does
it appear whether any measures were taken to discover
who had passed so unseemly a joke."
Is anything known positively about this incident 1
Of course we all remember the scene in * Red-
gauntlet.' E. LEATON-BLENKINSOPP.
THE PEACOCK.
(8th S. xi. 125.)
You may perhaps like to add the following
memoranda to those contributed by A. B. G. : —
Emblem of immortality— its flesh never decayed.
St. Augustine said he had ascertained this by ex-
periment (Lecky, ' Rationalism,' i- 219).
"The eacred names lao and Sabao were at las
degraded into mere charms for making fish come into
the net. The mediaeval doctors read lao as Aio, and
construing it as representing the sound of the peacock's
cry, promised wonderful effects from a stone engraved
with the bird, having a sea turtle below, and the word
inscribed in the field."— King, ' Gnostics,' 131.
"The Taous (literally peacock), or copper bird, the
idol at the present day worshipped by the Assyrian
Yezedie, is in all likelihood the descendant of the type
now under consideration [the phoenix]."— Ibid., 153.
" Peafowl are found there [Ceylon] in numbers. It is
very remarkable, too, that the terms these articles [ivory,
ape?, and peacocks] are designated by in the Hebrew
Scriptures are identical with the Tamil names by which
some of them are called in Ceylon to the present day.
Thus tukeyim, which is rendered 'peacocks' in one ver-
sion, may be recognized in lokei, the modern name for
these birds."— Tennent, ' Ceylon,' fourth edition, ii. 102.
" The Moslem ideas that it is a good omen to dream
of something white or green that a palm tree
indicates an Arab, a peacock a king."— Ty lor, ' Primitive
Culture,' second edition, i. 122.
" The Greeks had still present to their thoughts the
meaning of Argos Panoptes, lo's hundred - eyed, all
seeing guard, who was slain by Hermes, and changed
into a peacock, for Macrobius writes as recognizing m
him the star-eyed heaven itself."— Ibid., i. 320.
"[The Hindoo believes that] the thief who took dyed
garments, kitchen herbs, or perfumes, shall become
accordingly a red partridge, a peacock, or a musk-rat.
— Hid., ii. 10.
Bronze peacock found in the Thames (Archceo-
logia, xxix. 161).
Peacocks in a Christmas game (Ibid., xxxi. 38).
Peacock on a cup (Ibid., xxxi. 354).
Peacock displayed, enamel of (Ibid., xxxi. 487).
Angels bearing peacocks' feathers (Ibid., xxiv.
336).
Peacocks' feathers in hats (Ibid., xxiv. 183).
350
NOTES AND QUERIES. L8tt8.xi.MATi/w.
Peacock buried in a barrow (Academy, 17 June,
1882, p. 428).
Peacock on a coin of the Empress Paulina
(Gent. Mag., 1789, ii. 1185).
Peacocks, value of in the Middle Ages (Delisle,
* Olasse Agricole,' p. 489).
' Reuchlin exchanged diplomacy for study and
the breeding of white peacocks, when the great storm
of his life burst upon him." — Charles Beard, ' Hibbert
Lectures,' 1883, 54.
"[In a columbarium in the grounds of the Villa
Dona, near Rome,] traces of peacocks and other figures
in fresco ornamenting the divisions between the rows
are still visible."—' Life of George Eliot,' ii. 188.
A peacock on a miserere in Oartmell Church
(note made by writer, 1875).
Peacocks' feathers in liturgical fan (Book,
' Church of Our Fathers,' in. ii. 197, 201),
11 Circa 411 B.C.] there lived at Athens a rich bird-
fancier named Demos, the son of Pyrilampes : he must
have been rich, for he equipped a trireme destined for
Cyprus, and the Great King presented him with a golden
goblet, possibly because he had presented the monarch
with a peacock. This Demos was so overrun with
curious visitors coming from distant parts, such as
Lacedaemon and Thessaly, to see his peafowl, and if
possible to obtain some of the eggs, that he appointed
one day every month, the day of the new moon, on
which every one was admitted ; on other days he refused
all visitors, and this [continues Antiphon] has gone on
for more than thirty years." — Helm, * Wanderings of
Plants and Animals,' English translation, 265.
"Peacocks' feathers were worn on the knight's
helmet, and in the form of wreaths on the necks of
noble maidens ; and when the splendid garments of the
sick king Amfortas, or the majestic costume of the
terrible Kundrie la Sorci&re, or that of King Grarao-
flanz, are described in ' Parcival,' there is never wanting,
among other costly garments, the pfaewin or phawin
Knot, namely, peacock-hat. That these peacock-hats
came from England we learn from the above-named and
other poems, and there, too, must have been bred the
birds that produced the material. Charlemagne had
ordered peacocks and pheasants to be kept on his
estates, and the custom seems to have been kept up at
the castles of the Norman nobles in England."-— Ibid., 269.
Dream of Dante's mother : —
"Her son Dante was born in May, 1265. Before
his birth, Boccaccio tells us, his mother had a dream.
She dreamt that she found herself in a green meadow,
under a great laurel tree, beside a copious spring. There
she gave birth to a son, who fed only on the berries that
fell from the tree, and drank from the clear stream. In
a short time he grew up to be a shepherd, and tried to
break off some sprays from the tree. Suddenly his mother
saw him fall, and when he rose again he was changed
into a peacock." — Hettinger, 'Dante, Divina Com.,1
Bowden's translation, p. 8.
Pall woven with figures of peacocks (Bridgett,
'Hist, of Holy Eucharist in England ' vol. ii.
p. 109).
" An extraordinary old Irish mare with a ' pea-
cock' tail."— Sporting Magazine, 1828, N.S..
vol. xx. p. 426.
"Ben Champion, a peacock of foxhunters."—
Ibid., 1828, N.S., vol. xxii. p, 134,
Peacocks on vestments (Archceologia, vol. x.
p. 248, vol. liii. pp. 31, 33, 56, 58, 66 ; * Surrey
Inventories,' p. 27; Peacock, 'Lincolnshire Church
Furniture in 1566,' p. 203).
Peacocks on Egypto-Byzantine grave dresses
(Archceologia, vol. liii. p. 440). ASTARTB.
These further notes regarding this remarkable
bird may be worth adding to what has already
appeared. Calmet remarks (* Dictionary,' 1823,
vol. v.):—
" It is said to have the head of a serpent, the train of
an angel, and the voice of a devil. Its cry is very harsh
and disagreeable. Its feet are ugly."
One of the Divine questions to the Patriarch of
Uz (B.C. 1520) was "Gavest thou the goodly
wings unto the peacock ? " (Job xxxix. 13), Com-
mentators, however, render the word ostrich, as
does also the R.V. The LXX. reads " The Pea-
cock has a beautiful wing" (Bagster's ed., 1884,
p. 695). " The peacock's wing is proudly spread."
Luther's version reads "peacock." Solomon
(B.C. 1000) seems to have first imported them
from the Indies (2 Chronicles ix. 21), which is
one reason Bochart gives for rejecting the render-
ing " peacock " in Job ; agreeing with Scheutzer
(Barnes, ' Notes on Job,' p. 235).
Aristophanes (B.C. 444) mentions this bird in
his two plays of ' The Acharnians ' and * The
Birds.' While Aristotle (B.C. 384) speaks of
some animals who " are jealous and vain, like the
peacock" ('Hist. Anim.,' i. 1), Eupolis and
other poets earlier than even Aristotle seem to
have known the bird (Fairbairn, 'Bible Dic-
tionary,' ii. 537). Lempriere (1852, p. 378) says
of Juno being enthroned : " Some peacocks gene-
rally sat by her. She is sometimes carried through
the air in a rich chariot drawn by peacocks."
Ovid ({ Metamorphoses,' by Howard, 1807, p. 36,
book i.) mentions Juno as transferring the eyes of
the dead Argus to her attendant bird : —
But Juno seiz'd the rays,
And on the plumage of her favor'd bird
In gaudy pride, the starry gems she placed.
These eye-besprinkled beauties she uses on leaving
Olympus for the deep (p. 66, book ii.) : —
And through the liquid air Saturnia flies,
Borne in her chariot by her peacocks bright ;
Their coats gay studded from fall'n Argus' eyes.
The tribune of the church of San Clemente,
Rome, is covered with mosaics executed in 1299.
They represent the Crucifixion, and "at the foot
of the cross issue the four rivers of Paradise with
peacocks, emblems of Eternity " (Murray, ' Rome,'
1858, p. 138).
Chamier, among his interesting adventures
during the French war, mentions ('Life of a
Sailor/ 1839, p. 157) capturing a Spanish ship
from Lima laden with the enormous wealth of the
Duke of Medina Sidonia, a descendant, no doubt.
8 8. XI. MAT 1, W.J
NOTES AND QUERIES.
351
of the ill-fated duke of the same title who com-
manded the Spanish Armada : —
"Amongst the valuables found in the lieutenant's box
was a peacock in virgin silver : the eyes, and all the
adornments of the tail, for the proud bird exhibited
itself in all its glory, were studded with precious stones ;
the whole being one of the most beautiful ornaments to
a dinner table ever eeen in England. It was made a
present to the Prince Regent by universal consent, and
is now in the plate-room of his present Majesty in
Windsor Castle."
Gnillim (' Heraldry,' 1679, p. 172) has a quaint
note on the peacock blazon, part of which I tran-
scribe : —
"He beareth Argent, three Peacocks in their pride,
proper, by the Name of Pawne. The Peacock is so
proud, that when he erecteth his Fan of Plumes, he
admireth himself. He displayeth his Plumes against
the rays of the Sun, that they may glister the more
gloriously : and he loseth this beautiful train yearly
with the fall of the Leaf; at which time he becometh
bashful, and seeketh corners, where he may be secret
from the sight of men, until the spring of the year,
when his train beginneth to be renewed."
In Oassell's Magazine of Art (January, 1897,
No. 195, p. 161) is a good engraving of the marble
panel on the ambo of Milan Cathedral (twelfth
century) containing two standing peacocks, with
two serpents above and two doves below.
In the Torre di San Ninfra, Palermo, Sicily
(thirteenth century), are seen in mosaic two stand-
ing peacocks eating off a tree between them,
together with two lions and a griffin. (' Dictionary
of Architecture,' ii. p. 54, pi.). The crest of the
Harcourt who fought at Cressy (1346) was a pea-
cock (Archceologia, vol. xxviii. p. 187).
In that delightful old volume *Novveav Ar-
morial Universel ' (Paris, 1662, pi. 12, 26, 101),
with some two hundred plates of arms, terminating
with the grand coat (crowned skulls and flames on
field sable) of "L'Empire de la Mort," are seen
peacock emblazonments, or Paon rouam, as he is
styled if standing with tail expanded. He is so
borne by the Marquis de Vignolles. Three pea-
cock heads in the shield and two with closed tails
for supporters are given to the Marquis de la Bosse.
Dubuisson ('Armorial de France/ 1757, vol. i.
pi. 38) the tail-expanded peacock is borne by
Bachelier, Seigneur du Moncel, de Planchin. He
also gives (vol. ii. pi. 40, 90, 91) a walking peacock
with closed tail to Paignon, Seigneur de Fontaine-
la-Riboue, de Dijonval, and a similar but standing
one to St. Maurice, Langnedoc, and one in his full
pride to St. Paul, Seigneur de Ricault. From
which few examples it would seem that the peacock
is not very popular in French heraldry.
In the South Kensington Museum is a large
figure of a peacock standing on the top of a gilt
bronze incense burner (nineteenth century), seven
feet high, from Japan.
In CasselFs Magazine of Art (February, 1897,
No, 190, p. 215) may be seen a copy of a clever
modern painting by W. de Gouve de Nuneques,
of Belgium, representing three peacocks standing
in a wood, one of them having his tail open, an
original and singular composition. Among the
figures in the successful and gorgeous mosaics
recently finished on the frieze of the chancel in St.
Paul's I noticed some peacocks with closed tails,
which mosaics we may hope Her Majesty may see
should her Jubilee service be held inside instead of
outside her magnificent cathedral. A. B. G.
One day, not long ago, when I was in SS. Pietro
e Paolo, one of the group of churches that cluster
about S. Stefano, Bologna, an old woman pointed
out the tomb of S. Vitalis, who according to one
authority lies at Ravenna. I asked her the mean-
ing of two peacocks which decorated the front of
the kistvaen, and she replied that they were the
stemma (i. e., coat of arms) of the saint. I do not
know anything concerning heraldry in the early
centuries of the Christian era, but it struck me as
being not unlikely that peacocks, which seem to
be used as emblems of life, and especially of life
to come, may here be also introduced with a pun-
ning reference to the name Vitalis. The peacock
is one of the commonest of birds in " the sacred
menagerie " at Ravenna. ST. SWITHIN.
SHELTA (8th S. x. 434, 521 ; xi. 34, 90, 155 256,
295). — MR. PLATT tells us that it was from my
article in the J. G. L. S. that he "acquired every one
of [his] evil ways." If this be so I have much to
answer for ; and I can only hope that the present
correspondence may prove a corrective. A refer-
ence to my paper, however, hardly supports MR.
PLATT'S derivation of his errors. To answer
briefly : (1) My own use of the word K dialect "
can only have misled MR. PLATT if, as seems pro-
bable, he read it without its context. A dialect
docked and disguised beyond recognition surely
becomes a jargon in the process, and " jargon " is
the term I apply to Shelta elsewhere throughout
the article (pp. 206, 209, 212, 216). (2) I have
not confused " cant " and " slang." In illustration
of my allusion to the transition of the former to the
latter, I contrast the modern slang rum, " strange "
or " odd," with its earlier cant form rome, "great"
or " good." (3) As this is MR. PLATT'S " principal
point " a survey of his methods may be instructive.
He finds a word of doubtful authenticity used once
in a work of no great authority. Accepting its
form without question, he guesses wildly that it is
derived from " gizzard " because that word happens
to rhyme to it, and on the strength of this guess
assigns it with the utmost positiveness to a parti-
cular caste-jargon the vocabulary and mode of
formation of which are equal mysteries to him.
Confronted with the true Shelta equivalent of this
spurious word, he then attempts to attribute it
to the debased English form of tharal, though I can
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assure him that the word pt is used as invariably
by the English as by the Irish tinker. MR. PLATT
shifts his ground so constantly that to pursue him
further in these columns would try the patience of
readers of ' N. & Q.' If I here step outside the
ring it is because, to borrow an epigram of the
great "John L.," the contest has become "not a
fight, but a running match."
To clear up my references here and elsewhere to
various forms of Shelta, may I say that the varieties
of this jargon, whatever their local differences, are
all derived equally from Irish Gaelic? I once
thought that there might, perhaps, exist a form of
Shelta derived from Welsh, but now know that
this is not the case. The tinker families of Wales,
whom I have often encountered in seeking for
Welsh gipsies, are all Irish or of Irish descent, and
speak excellent Shelta. Some intermarry with the
gipsies of South Wales. One comes upon them
hammering in roadside dingles or encamped in
lonely spots. Their manner is sullen and suspicious,
and they do not welcome strangers. The names and
beats of some of the principal families might be
worth noting. North Wales : Fox (Buckley, Mold,
Bala), Fury (Hereford and northwards), Riley
(Conway, Carnarvon, and Denbigh), Daly (Chester
and Mold), Manghan or "Manning" (Dolgelly,
Machynlleth, Aberystwyth), Hamilton (Newtown
and Llanidloes). South Wales : Eafferty (Rhondda
Valley), Machan (Merthyr, Dowlais), Collister or
" Costler " (Swansea, many of this family went to
America), Burke (Morriston), Heany (Llandeilo
Fawr). JOHN SAMPSON.
" ACELDAMA," ACTS i. 19 (8th S. xi. 48, 194).
— MB. SPENCB does not ask what the right pro-
nunciation of this word is, but how it is " usually
pronounced from the reading-desks of the Church
of England." There is no doubt it is usually pro-
nounced with the soft, or sibilant, c. With defer-
ence to LYSART, I would demur to his statement
that Aceldama is the Hebrew heaM dama. Hebrew
was not spoken in Palestine in the days of the
Apostles, and there is no such word as healed in
that language. The word LYSAET is thinking of is
P2D, which originally meant a portion or parcel of
land, and thence a field. But in all the other
Semitic languages, viz., Chaldee, Arabic, and
Ethiopic, the last two radicals of the word were
transposed, and the word which Acel is really
intended to represent is the Chaldee or Aramaean
Ifc is interesting, from a linguistic point of
view, to note that the initial guttural is replaced
in Greek by the spiritus lenis.
W. F. PRIDEAUX.
^ STAG-HORN OR FOX'S-TAIL (8th S. xi. 227).—
Stag- horn moss is to be found in the Lake District.
Che poet would no doubt see it, among other
places, when he ascended Black Comb and wrote
his particularly exact description of the view from
the summit (* View from the Top of Black Comb,
Cumberland'). Fox's-tail is a faithful rendering
of the appearance of the tynes of the horns, and
the moss grows in sufficient profusion and to a
sufficient length for the hat-trimming purposes
mentioned in the pastoral. But the boys must
have procured it on the Pikes. The immediate
proximity of the Ghyll would not furnish it.
ARTHUR MAYALL,
There cannot be any doubt that stag's-horn
moss is referred to. Travellers in the Lake region
not infrequently trim their hats with it.
E. W.
I have no doubt the plant mentioned by
C. C. B. ante, p. 227, is the Lycopodium cla-
vatum, common club-moss of Withering. It is
called stag's-horn or wolf's-claw by Newman, and
Moore, in his ' British Ferns and their Allies,1 says
that in Sweden it bears the name of matte-grass,
and that the leafy stems are used for dyeing pur-
poses as well as to fix colours in the stead of alum.
The seeds are said to explode when kindled, and
to be used for artificial lightning on the stage. It
is found in abundance on Leith Hill, near Wotton,
in Surrey, and also in Tilgate Forest and St.
Leonard's Forest, in Sussex. A. M, D.
Blackheath.
In answer to C. C. B.'s inquiry, I may say that
the first-named plant is a lichen, Cladonia cervi-
cornis of Sehserer. The latter is a large species of
moss that grows on the vertical sides of rocks by
streams and waterfalls, known to botanists as
Hypnum alepocurum of Linnaeus. A. S,
Braithwaite, Keighley.
"GRASS- WIDOW" (8th S. vi. 188, 258, 354, 495 ;
vii. 76 ; viii. 198). — With this word may be com-
pared the Dutch grasweduwet explained in the
' Woordenboek der Nederlandsche,' Taal V. iv.
p. 598, as a married woman whose husband is
temporarily absent. Cf. Swedish graserika ; Danish
grasenke; German strohwittwe. Commonly a grass-
widow is called onbestorven weduwe (' Woorden-
boek,' II. vii. 1078), Haagweduwe. is used in
Flanders to denote an "unmarried mother" (haag =
haw, hedge). Onbestorven is derived from be-
sterven — to die, and the negative prefix on = un.
A. E. H. SWAEN,
Almeloo.
" A DAY'S WORK OF LAND" (8th S. xi. 248).—
There is much that is pertinent to MR. HUDSON'S
requirements to be found in Prof. Maitland's
' Domesday Book and Beyond,' which was re-
viewed in l N. & Q.' in the number containing the
query. The original theoretical acre in England,
we are told, like the jurnale, Tagwerlc, and Morgen
of the Continent, has at its root the tract that can
be ploughed in a day or in a forenoon ; and the
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353
economic conditioning circumstance is referred to,
that in the afternoon the oxen must go to pasture.
There is evidence, however, that the day's work
expected might vary from a little over an acre to
only half an acre (op. cit., 377-79). I am not sure
that in these facts there may not be some explana-
tion of a very odd and anomalous passage in a
Scottish poet who suddenly digressed into land
measurement whilst in the middle of a description
of the death-dealing powers of a fiery dragon. In
the collection of metrical ' Legends of the Saints,'
edited, as Barbour's, by Prof. Horstmann in 1881,
denied to Harbour by German, English, and Scots
critics from 1886 to 1896, and now reclaimed for
Barbour in 1897, the seventeenth item is a life of
Sfc. Martha, wherein is told the tale
Of a dragon fers and fel,
an amphibious brute, whose venomous excretion
burnt up, like Greek fire, whatever came within
radius. It would slay, the poet assures us
(II. 49-52), over an area
Of ane oxgange hale the space
That twa hundreth fet in lynth has
And twenty, and in bred alsa
Sewyne schore of fute and na ma.
This is a most peculiar measurement for an oxgang
or oxgate, which normally is one eighth of a plough-
gate. Here it is 220 ft. X 140 ft. = 3,422| square
yards, scarcely three-fourths of an acre. More
probably, therefore, oxgang here means something
like a day's work of land, quite a different thing
from the standard oxgate, which in Scotland was
once fixed by ancient law and legal decision at
thirteen acres.
As regards cultura, it is very far from likely
that it can be in any sense equated, as MR.
HUDSON suggests, with a day's work. Prof. Mait-
land's book, already referred to (p. 380), has the
very latest information on the matter, and the
definition therein given leaves nothing to be desired
in point of lucidity : —
' The cultura is a set of contiguous and parallel acre-
strips : it tends to be a rude parallelogram : two of its
aides will be each a furlong (' furrowlong ') in length,
while the length of the other sides will vary from case to
case. We commonly find that every great field (campus)
is divided into divers cultures, each of which has its own
name. The commonest English equivalent for the word
cultura seems to have been furlong, and this use of
furlong was very natural ; but aa we require that term
for another purpose we will call the cultura a shot"
A thirteenth century citation from a Berwick-
shire chartulary ('Chartulary of Ooldstream,' ed.
Rogers, Grampian Club, p. 22) shows the parallel
usage in Scotland : " tres acras terre in cultura
que vocatur Spitelflat in territorio de Dercestyr."
GEO. NEILSON.
Glasgow.
In this part of the West Riding of Yorkshire
a day's work was, I believe, formerly a common
unit of land measurement among farmers, but is
now gradually passing out of use. It comprises ,
sixty-four local roods of forty-nine square yards
each, or, roughly speaking, about two-thirds of an
acre. The farmers call the above a "dawark"
and rood a "rooid." A. S.
Braithwaite, Keighley.^,
Has your correspondent overlooked a similar
question, asked in ' N. & Q.,' 7th S. ix. 489, and
the many replies, with references to works of long
ago, at p. 13 of the succeeding volume ?
EVERARD HOME COLEMAN.
71, Brecknock Road.
The 'New Law Dictionary* of Giles Jacob,
1762, has, s. v. : —
" Daywere of Land : As much arable land as could be
ploughed up in one day's work, or one journey, as the
farmers still call it. Hence any young artificer who
assists a master workman in daily labour is called a
journeyman. ' Confirmavi abbati et Conventui de Rading
tres acras et sexdecim daywere de terra arabili.'—
Cartular, Rading MS,, f. 90."
See also the glossary in Kennet's ' Parochial
Antiquities.' Pace Prof. Skeat, these writers,
connect our " dairy " with it, s. v. " Dayeria."
Eo. MARSHALL.
McGiLLicuDDT (8th S. xi. 268).— On 20 May,
1867, Messrs. Longman & Go. published 'The
McGillicuddy Papers ; a Selection from the
Family Archives of the McGillicuddy of th©
Keeks, with an Introductory Memoir ; being a
Contribution to the History of the County of
Kerry.' By W. Maziere Brady, D.D., vicar of'
Donoghpatrick, Meath, author of ' Clerical and
Parochial Eecords of Cork, Cloyne, and Boas/ 4to.r>
pp. 244, price 21s.
EVBRARD HOME COLEMAN.
71, Brecknock Road,
HACKTHORPE PORTRAITS (8th S. x. 316). — There-
are no paintings of note at Hackthorpe since 1710,
when it fell into decay. A note or list in Bird's
MSS. in Appleby only mentions " a portraioture of
Lord Holand and Warrick — aduenturer in company/
of Virginia Secretary Cleyborn, Lady Conwey,
Sr John Louthre — remoued to Louther Hall andi
Whitehauen." No Clifford portrait is mentioned..
J. B, BASCOMB.
Bayswater.
"MANUS CHRISTI" (8tb S. xi. 288). —The name
indicates the supposed virtue of the confection as
a restorative and strengthener of the heart. The
formula in ' Arcana Fairfaxiana ' is defective ;
that of the London College of Physicians is given
by Culpeper under its official name "Saccharum
Tabulatum Perlatum." The directions for the
preparation of the article are, to powder sugar
upon a marble after a sufficient boiling in half its
weight of damask rose water, adding to every
pound, towards the end of the decoction, half an
ounce of powdered prepared pearls, and eight Q?
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[8«* 8. XI. MAT 1, '97,
ten leaves of gold. Culpeper adds, characteristic,
ally :—
" Here the Colledg have left out that blasphemous
speech, which I cannot write without horror nor an
honest man read without trembling, viz., To call a little
Rose Water and Sugar boyled together, The Hand of
Christ, The truth ia if they had left out the rest of the
blasphemies, I should have had some hopea they would
ih time turn honest, but I see to my grief they remain,
especially that abominable blasphemy in their Dedicatory
Epistle to King James, which they having not wit enough
to alter, still let stand," &c.
There is no need to quote more. There has, I
believe, been no other edition of the ' Arcana '
than the one in facsimile, from which ST. SWITHIN
quotes. 0. 0. B.
^Nicholas Culpeper, in his ' London Dispensatory/
1669, gives the same mixture as that mentioned
by ST. SWITHIN, but adds "pearls prepared and
bruised." He also states : —
"Here the Colledg have left out that blasphemous
*peech, which I cannot write without horor, nor an
honest man read, without trembling, viz., to call a little
Rose water and sugar boiled together, The Hand of
Christ : A. It ia Naturally cooling, appropriated to the
heart, it restores lost strength, takes away burning
feavers, and false imaginations (I mean that with Pearls
for that without Pearls is rediculous), it hath the same
Vertuas that Pearls have."
JOHN RADCLIFFE.
SS. CTRIACUS AND JULIETTA (8th S. xi. 129,
196).— In Rees's ' Essay on the Welsh Saints'
1836, p. 82, it is stated that Llanilid, Glamorgan-
shire, supposed by some to have been called after
[lid, is dedicated to Julitta and Cyrique. Evidently
these are the same as J. B. H. inquires about.
On p. 307, among the Welsh saints from A.D. 664 to
A.D. 700, including those of uncertain date, mention
is made of Ourig, or Cyrique, a saint of Tarsus in
Cihcia. He was martyred while an infant at the
same time with his mother Juliet or Julitta
Their festival is 16 June. This is the only informa-
tion in Rees ; but will J. B. H. give a Welshman
the local tradition ? M.A.Oxon.
t SANS Souoi THEATRE, LEICESTER PLACE (8th
S. XL 263).— According to Tom Taylor, 'Leicester
Square,' p. 456, Charles Dibdin, in 1796, built
the Sans Souci Theatre in twelve weeks at Nos. 2
and 3 on the east side of Leicester Place. These
houses will be found marked on Horwood's map.
J. 1. Smith, m his ' Book for a Rainy Day ' p. 90
says that " The Feathers » was taken down to make
room for Dibdin's theatre, called the Sans Souci,
and that many of the frequenters of the club which
used to hold its meetings in that house adjourned
to The Coach and Horses," in Castle Street,
Leicester Fields. « The Feathers » was an old
established public-house, and the sign was given
as a compliment to Frederick, Prince of Wales
who occupied the neighbouring house. The back
parlour of thin tavern was for many years the
meeting place of artists and well-known amateurs,
The same writer, in ' Nollekens and his Times,' ed.
1819,p. 37, says that "The Feathers" stood upon the
site of part of the ground of Mr. Bur ford's Panorama,
This exhibition seems to occupy in Horwood's map
the site of No. 10, Leicester Square, which abutted
on No. 2, Leicester Place, and it practically formed
the north-east corner of the square, where Cran-
bourn Street debouched into it. Few spots in
London have passed through greater vicissitudes
during the last hundred years than this corner of
Leicester Square, and its history would provide
an amusing, if not instructive, chapter.
W. F, PRIDEAUX,
Kingsland, Shrewsbury,
In ' Curiosities of London ' Titnbs says ;—
" In Leicester Place, Charles Dibdin, the song writer,
built, in 1796, the Sans Souci Theatre for his musical
entertainment; the premises, No. 2, now an hotel,
occupy the site of ' The Feathers ' public-house."
0. P. HALE.
"SITTING BODKIN" (8th S. xi. 267).— A person
sitting between two others on a seat not meant for
more must needs be small and thin, and may easily
be compared to a bodkin ; there is probably no
other derivation of the phrase. Cf. * The Antiquary,'
chap. xvii. : " Between the two massive figures of
Monkbarns and the clergyman was stuck by way
of bodkin the slim form of Mary M'Intyre."
The "sword-case" in old carriages was not a
perpendicular socket, but a horizontal recess in
the upper part of the back, the full width of the
carriage. Builders went on making it till quite
late times. I remember it well enough in the flies
of my youth ; but I believe it is gone now.
C. F. S. WARREN, M.A.
Longford, Coventry.
Dr. Brewer, in his ' Phrase and Fable,' explains
that it is to ride in a carriage between two others,
the accommodation being only for two. You are
a little instrument, sheathed like a bodkin, or small
dagger, and thrust at the side of your companion,
He himself might his quietus make
With a bare bodkin. ' Hamlet,' III. i. ;
while Mr. Edwards, in 'Words, Facts, and
Phrases,' says Dr. Payne, formerly Archdeacon
of St. David's, gave the following explanation :
Bodkin is bodykin (little body), as manikin (little
man), and was a little person, to whose company
no objection could be made, on account of room
occupied, by the two persons accommodated in the
corners of the carriage.
EVERARD HOME COLEMAN.
71, Brecknock Road.
The late Dr. Brewer's 'Phrase and Fable/
the 'Encyclopaedic Dictionary,' and the ' N. E. D.'
agree in giving the meaning of this as a person
wedged in between two others where there is
proper room for two only, and in the. ' £L E. PM'
&thS.xi. MAY 1, '97.]
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that wonderful mine of information which all
correspondents should, if possible, refer to before
writing to ' N. & Q.,' are the following and other
quotations : —
"1638, Ford, « Fancies,' iv. i. (1811), 186, 'Where but
two lie in a bed, you must be— bodkin, bitch-baby must
ye?' 1798, 'Loves of the Triangles,' 182 (L.), 'While
the pressed bodkin, punched and squeezed to death,
sweats in the midmost place.' '
Bodkin is also used as a verb ; see —
"Gibbon, 'Let.,' 31 May in 'Mem.' (1839), 354, 'If
you can bodkin the sweet creature into the coach.' "
D. M. R.
In the old chariot or postchaise, having room for
two persons, a third seat was provided, which was
slipped in under the main seat and drawn out
when required. It was called the bodkin, I know
not why. It was a place for a junior, who mostly
had to sit upright, not getting a rest for the back.
Hence " sitting bodkin " was used, I believe, in
the sense of taking a subordinate place.
C. B. MOUNT.
See < N. & Q.,' 7th S. viii. 27, 76, 116 ; ix. 74.
W. 0. B.
STEEL PENS (8th S. x. 47, 191 ; xi. 291).— MB.
ALDRED asks for the earliest mention of metal
pens, and cites a silver pen used in 1412.
Museums contain many ancient pens, but precise
dates are wanting. The bronze pen found by Prof.
Waldstein in the so-called tomb of Aristotle in
Eretria, has already been mentioned ('N. & Q.,'
1 S. x. 47). Several have been found in Italy,
and one in England. The discovery of an ancient
bronze pen at Rome is described in Bull, del Inst.
for 1847, and one was used in 1330 by Perrot de
Sains to disguise his handwriting. (See Watten-
bach, ' Schriftwesen im Mittelalter, p. 192;
Prou, * Pateographie,' p. 181 ; and Thompson,
'Palaeography,' pp. 49, 321.)
ISAAC TAYLOR.
THE WILL OP KING HENRY VI. : " CHARE
ROFED" (8«> S. x. 253, 401 ; xi. 74, 192). —Some
farther explanation seems desirable. If the roof
was called a "chare roof " because the lead used
for it was brought in a chare ( = cart), why not chare
walls, or chare floors, or chare windows ?— for the
materials for them were just as likely to be brought
in chares as the lead for the roof.
One correspondent says "chare is a covered
vehicle," which cannot be correct, or, when Skel-
ton represents Apollo "twirling up his chare,"
we should have to imagine him driving a covered
vehicle somewhat like a hansom cab.
In Pynson's edition of Froissart, 1525, "chares,
tts, and waggons " are spoken of together, more
than once, as being used for the purposes of war ;
rom which it may be inferred they were all dif-
erent, and probably chare was the lightest and most
like our modern gig. Froiasart says (f. 319, vol. ii.):
" Eynge Rycharde deed was layde in a lytter and
sette in a chayre/ coured with blacke Baudkynne/
and four horses all blacke in the chayre/ and two
men in blacke leadyng the chayre." In the
modern edition of Johnes's translation of Froissart
is a woodcut illustrating this passage, from an
illumination in a MS. of the fifteenth century,
where, of course, there is no roof to the chare.
According to Skeat's 'Concise Etymological
Dictionary,' "char" is "a turn, or to turn."
Hence probably both " chare M and "chariot." So
I suggest that "chare-roofed" means a roof with
round or wheel-like ornaments. If this is wrong,
I have no doubt Prof. Skeat will put me right.
R. R.
Boston Lincolnshire.
GHOST-NAMES (8tt S. xi. 64, 134, 233, 298).—
The Rev. Canon Brown, of Laggan House,
Maidenhead, tells me that some years ago at
Warwick he had to publish the banns of marriage
of " A. B. to Talitha Cumi Cox," and adds that
"it was a trial three Sundays running, when I
could not fail to see the smiles on people's faces."
Rather more than thirty years ago there was a
meek little curate with a pink and white com-
plexion at Tonbridge, Kent, who rejoiced (?) in
the name of the Rev. Pascal Lamb.
0. W. PENNY.
Wokingham.
"Li MAISIE HIERLEKIN" (8*11 S. xi. 108, 174,
271). — This has been discussed in 'N. & Q.,' at
intervals, for some years, sometimes under one
title, sometimes under another. Will one of your
correspondents be so good as to collect, and send
to your columns, a complete series of references to
the various articles ? Q. V.
PEACOCK FEATHERS UNLUCKY (8tto S. iv. 426,
521 ; v. 75, 167 ; ix. 408, 458 ; x. 33, 358, 479 ;
xi. 36, 254). — Flabella are also used by the Prior
of the Knights of Malta, by the Bishop of Troia in
Apulia on the occasion of the procession of Corpus
Christi, and by the Archbishop of Messina when
he pontificates. They are in use in some parts of
Spain, and I have seen them myself used in Sicily
among the Dominicans. The ceremonial of the
Dominicans prescribes when they should be used :
" Tempore quoque muscarum debet eas diaconns
flabello amovere ne inolestent sacerdotem et abigere
a sacrificio." In the Pontificate of Nicholas V.
(1447-1455) it appears from a MS. in the Bar-
berini Library at Rome that they were also used
by the cardinal bishops when they pontificated.
In an inventory of Boniface VIII. they are men-
tioned : "Item unum flabellum rotundumlaboratum
ad aurum in quo est Rex Salomon et Rex David
-item unum flabellum antiquum de ppere Pisano."
They are also prescribed in the liturgies of St. Basil
and St. James, and are used, although in other
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forms made of silver or metal, by the Greeks,
Armenians, and Maronites. St. Jerome in his
letter to Marcella refers to them (Epist. 20), and
in the ' Apostolical Constitutions ' of Clemens
Romanus (lib. viii. cap. 12) mention is made of the
bishop at Mass being assisted by two deacons
using fans made of peacocks' feathers : " Duo
diaconi ex utraque parte altaris teneant flabella ex
tenuissimis membranis, aut ex pennis pavonis, aut
ex linteo, ut parva animalia volitantia abigant ne
in calicem incidant." The flabella which are
carried by the privy chamberlains beside the
Sedia Gestatoria of the Pope are never actually
in use during the Mass ,* they are larger than
others, and are composed of the feathers of the
ostrich and the white peacock, of which there are
some beautiful specimens in the Vatican gardens.
HARTWELL D. GRISSELL, F.S.A.
Oxford.
EARLY LUCIFER MATCHES (8tB S. x. 72, 141,
226).— It is stated in the new edition of Thorn-
bury 'B 'Old and New London,' chap. xi. vol. i.
p. 123, that
" at the east corner of Peterborough Court, Fleet Street,
was one of the earliest shops for the instantaneous light
apparatus, ' Hertner's Eupyrion ' (phosphorus and oxy-
muriate matches to be dipped in sulphuric acid and
asbestos), the costly predecessor of the lucifer match."
The date is not given, but it must have been
about 1830-40, and the fact, I think, ought to be
recorded in « N. & Q.' E. WALFORD.
Ventnor,
CDNOBELINUS OR CTMBELINE (8tb S. x. 474;
xi. 13, 132).— The Greek of Dion Cassius reads, in
my edition (Dindorfs), Kwo/fcAAeww, with two
lambdas. Gymbeline, to give him the familiar
form of our great dramatist, uses only one I on his
coins, Cynobelinus or Cunobelinus ; but the Greek
form seems to be a more effective guide to the pro-
nunciation, which must have been Kin'bellin (with
the accent on the penultimate), to account for the
Welsh softened form of Cynfelyn, i. e., with /
sounded as English v. The name of Kimble, in
Bucks, where the remains of Cunobelin's fort still
exist, would seem to show the hardness of the
initial, which is further strengthened by the form
of the family name of Knatchbull, which has been
derived from Chenebella, the old form of what is
now Kimble.
Of Cunobelin's sons Dion Cassius gives Katara-
takos as well as Togodumnus. He does not mention
Arviragus, whom the Welsh call Gweirydd, nor
Adminius. Whether the Kataratakos was the
same as the Caractacus of the proudly humble
speech to the emperor seems to me very doubtful.
Dhe Welsh Triad No. 28 makes the Caractacus
Caradwg ap Bran ap Llyr Llediaith," as one of
the three great battle princes, sovereigns by the
vote of all Britain. Llyr is said to have been
brother of Cynfelyn, and so Bran, the friend of
St. Paul, and first introducer of Christianity into
Britain, was nephew of Cynfelyn, and Caractacus
his great - nephew. This has been always the
Welsh story, so far as I know, and Dion Cassius,
who wrote nearly a hundred and seventy years
after the surrender of Caractacus, hardly seems
near enough to be a contemporary, and so to be
unquestionable as an authority. T. W.
Aston Clinton.
^ GENT (8th S. x. 93, 201, 343 ; xi. 274).— In the
Scottish poets this word is found, both as here
quoted and in the dainty form " genty." In his
translation of 'JSneid ' y., Gavin Douglas intro-
duces the passage descriptive of the juvenile soldiers
and their movements under the heading —
How that Ascanius and joung childir gent
Assail^eit wthir, in manir of turnament,
and brings them forward in the lines : —
Than sone the childer arrayit fair and gent,
Enterit in the camp all sammyn, schyning brycht,
On steidis pransand in thair faderis sycht.
Allan Ramsay has "genty" — "her waist and
feet's fou genty " is one of his descriptive touches
— and LadyNairne, dwelling with pathftic remi-
niscence on the faithful Jacobitism of ' The Auld
House,1 gives this interesting domestic scene : —
And the leddy, too, sae genty,
There shelter'd Scotland's heir,
And clipt a lock wi' her ain hand
Frae his lang yellow hair.
THOMAS BAYNE.
Helensburgh, N.B.
When Byron used the expression " ladies gent "
in * Don Juan,' canto xvi. stanza 66, he doubtless
remembered the use of gent by Spenser in * The
Faerie Queene ': —
" Well worthy impe," said then the Lady gent,
And Pupill fitfe for such a Tutors hand !
Bk. i. canto ix. § 6.
Cf. also, —
He lov'd, as was his lot, a Lady gent. § 27.
And, —
A knight had wrought against a Ladie gent.
Bk. ii. canto i. § 30.
For an early use of the abbreviated form gemman,
MR. RICHARD H. THORNTON may possibly not
object to having his attention directed to the
following quotation : —
Go to, mast Parson, saye on, and well to thryve ;
Ye be the jolest gemman that ever sawe in my lyve.
' John Bon and Mast Parson,' Hazlitt's ' Early
Popular Poetry,' vol. iv. p. 10.
The date of this " tract " is, according to Hazlitt,
probably between January, 1547, and January,
1548. F. C. BIRKBECK TERRY.
"HAKE" (8th S. xi. 287).— The cowl of the
Arab hake, a garment made of horsehair, might
have been the link of connotation in the poet's
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mind. ( The laughing fiend and prince of snakes/'
or his more light-hearted counterpart, is seldom
far to seek in Browning's work, and he does not
treat the professor with so much seriousness as to
lead us to suppose that the humouraome element
has been crushed in this case.
ARTHUR MAYALL.
As I am nothing of a Browning scholar or a
philologist, I can only make the wild guess that by
some process, mental or otherwise, the word hake
was set down for hank=ft two or more skeins of
thread tied together " (Chambers's ' Etymol. Diet,
of the Eng. Lang.,' 1882). This would, I think,
accord with the context. But, as to any con-
nexion between hake and shako, quaere ?
P. 13. WALMSLEY.
Putney, S.W.
*' EYE-RHYMES n IN THE POEMS BY SURREY AND
WYATT (8» S. xi. 161, 253, 294).— I am well
aware that in educated society in London, and in
the south of England generally, the letter r is
frequently defrauded of its true sound, and I am
not contending for the exaggerated r of North-
umberland. In the Midlands we have a more
excellent way than either. We preserve, I think,
generally speaking, the true r sound, that of a
trilled liquid, one of the most musical sounds
which our alphabet can boast ; and we call such
rhymes as those MR. INGLEBY defends " cockney
rhymes." do not presume to say whence our
standard of pronunciation (if we have one) is
derived ; but I do say that the poet, being an
artist in words, is bound to choose the most
musical words he can, and to use every word so as
to bring out fully all the music there is in it. Not
very long since MR. BOUCHIER called our attention
to Tennyson's skilful use of the liquid— meaning,
[ believe, of the letter I. But in several of the
passages MR. BOUCHIER cited the liquid r con-
tributes as much beauty to the verse as does I
itself. Take, for instance, the first of them, adding
the line which precedes the one MR. BOUCHIER
quoted : —
O sweet and far from cliff and scar
The horns of Elfland faintly blowing !
Or take two lines MR. BOUCHIER did not quote,
in which the r has the chief place : —
To watch the crisping ripples on the beach,
And tender curving lines of creamy spray.
Or, leaving Tennyson, these verses from Keats :—
A laughing schoolboy, without thought or care,
hiding the springy branches of an elm.
Or this line— one of the loveliest in Shakespeare—
from * 2 K. Henry IV.,' III. i. :—
In cradle of the rude imperious surge.
Or, once more, this from Gray : —
The cock's shrill clarion, or the echoing horn.
Would MR. INGLEBY, in the first quotation from
Tennyson, or the one from Gray, have us read
hawn ? I think not, though he seems to say so.
He admits the superiority of the trilled r (even
when exaggerated), and is aware that poetry with-
out the accompaniment of sound is " dethroned
from its proper office." How can he, then, say
that I am wrong in affirming that born, dawn, is
not a true rhyme ? Every time a poet uses such a
rhyme he not only misses an immediate beautiful
effect, but he helps to debase (so to speak) the
coinage of Apollo's kingdom. G. G. B.
Though not a cockney, I am thankful to find
MR. HOLCOMBE INGLEBY saying anything in justi-
fication of what are sneered at as tf cockney rhymes."
I do not wish to go so far as to rhyme day with
why, paper with viper, or lady with tidy : I should
not have written
'Mid toil and tribulation
And tumult of her war
She waits the consummation
Of peace for evermore,
when it would have been quite as easy to have
made her " strife and tumult sore"; but I confess
without shame that I am not shocked when dawn
and morn are linked together by a poet, and that
I did not agree with an editor who objected to the
matching of warble with bauble. To my ear
warble =wauble, and I should attract unenviable
attention in educated society if I were to pronounce
the word so as to chime in with marble. In rhyming,
as in other things, do not let us be too whimsical
in our requirement of executants, and do not let
us pretend that every Muse should learn to speak
on the far side of the Tweed. ST. SWITHIN.
TAPESTRIES FROM THE RAPHAEL CARTOONS
(8*11 S. xi. 107, 171, 253).— Mr. Henry Bipley, the
popular head master of the English, formerly the
Grammar, School, at Hampton-on- Thames, says,
in his ' History and Topography of Hampton-on-
Thames,' third edition, Hansard, 1891, p. 33 : —
" Church Road, extending from the Thames to the
Triangle, we visit chiefly for the sake of associations
connected with the present ' Orme ' House."
I do not quite know what Mr. Ripley means by
" the present Orme House "; it may not originally
have been so called, but it has been for so long as
I can remember, that is for some forty years :—
" Here Mr. T. Holloway, with his clever nephew and
assistant Mr. Webb, lived for some years, whilst engaged
upon his gigantic task of engraving the Raphael cartoons,
then in Hampton Court Palace, and here too, in 1827.
shortly before the completion of his task, we are in-
formed, he died .His workroom waa situated on the
ground floor, and overlooked the garden at the back."
The name of this house attracted my particular
attention when a child, as being the French
equivalent of elm tree, whereas the house is par-
ticularly distinguished by a row of clipped lime
trees along the edge of the causeway in front
of it. Is the house named after the builder of the
858
NOTES AND QUERIES.
" square," the publisher, the cutler, or some other
Orme? THOMAS J. JEAKES,
"RULE THE ROOST" (8th S. x. 295, 365,423,
603 ; xi. 273). — The quotation from the Newcastle
Weekly Chronicle is, to say the least of it, a remark-
able one, and it is evident some one has been
having a joke at the expense of that journal, or the
writer has been misled by the volume he quotes
from, which must have been written in a joke, for
the title is clearly a joke, as it is only the follow-
ing sentence disguised : " Johnny git yer hair cut,
did you see [or say] that ? " by "He worries the
foolish " (or " Where is the police ? w)> published by
" Who 'r ye coddin' ? " at his shop opposite the
coffee-house, by the sign of " Is that hot enough
for you ? " It would be interesting to learn who
is the originator of this joke, which has evidently
passed into the Newcastle Chronicle and ' N. & Q.'
D. M. R.
There can be no doubt that both " rule the roost ''
and " rule the roast " are current in conversation
and in literature. And why not ? It seems to me
that exactness of meaning demands the choice of
expression. Happy are the women who have a
chief to " rule the roost " for them ; and happy are
the men (unless they be chefs') who have a woman
to "rule the roast." In, perhaps, the first play I
ever saw — I believe it was * No Song, no Supper '
— there was a dreadful dispute between the hero
and heroine as to whether some article of food
should be roast or boiled. I do not remember who
ruled in the matter. ST. SWITHIN.
I am curious to have a translation of the
' Welsh » (!) title of the work referred to by MR.
0. P. HALE at the last reference. 0. 0. B.
ADDITION TO NATIONAL ANTHEM (8tb S. xi.
323).— MR. DAVEY is evidently not familiar with
the publications of the eighteenth century. The
piece he quotes is to be found in the same book
which contains the first publication of " God save
our Lord the King," and is entitled "A Loyal
Song for 2 voices, set by Mr. Crome." It was
republished in the four editions of * Thesaurus
Musicus,' all of which, together with the unique
copy of the original Latin words, are in my
possession. W. H. CUMMINGS. '
THOMAS, BARON WALLACE (8th S. xi. 188).—
Thomas Wallace, of Asholme, Knaresdale, and
Featherstone Castle, co. Northumberland, was
born 1768, was one of the Lords Commissioners of
the Admiralty 1797-8, and sworn of the Privy
Council 21 May, 1801. He was Master of the
Mint and on the India Board, 1803, 1804, and
.807, Vice - President of the Board of Trade
28 Jan., 1818, and held other public offices. He
sat in Parliament for many places, and lastly for
Weymouth. He was created Baron Wallace of
Knaresdale 2 Feb., 1828. He married, 16 Feb.,
1814, Lady Jane Hope (daughter of John, second
Earl of Hopetoun, and relict of Henry, first Vis-
count Melville), by whom he had no issue. She
died 6 June, 1829. Baron Wallace died 23 Feb.,
1844, when the title became extinct and the estates
devolved on John George Frederic Hope Wallace,
and the representation devolved on the issue of his
uncle, John Wallace, of Sedcop House, Kent.
JOHN RADCLIFFE.
EARLY BIBLICAL CHRONOLOGY (8tb S. xi. 182).
— The following is an extract from a note on
Exodus xii. 40 in ' The Annotated Bible/ by the
Rev. J. H. Blunt :—
" If the longer term be taken it cannot be made to
agree, or nearly to agree, with the chronology set out in
the Book of Genesis, supposing the years there men-
tioned to be natural, that is, solar years : the date of the
Exodus being then brought as low as A.M. 2668, instead
of the received date A.M. 2513. But if it be supposed
that up to the time of the Exodus the natural month
was the basis of chronology, and that a ' vague ' or
' wandering ' year was used, that is, a year made up of
twelve natural or lunar months, then the date, rendered
into solar or natural years, would be A.M. 2586. But in
whatever year of the world the Exodus took place, the
year before our Lord's Incarnation seems unmistakable,
and the exact date is set down as the 15th day of Ahib,
or Nisan— that is, 11 April, B.C. 1491."!
CELER ET AUDAX.
"THE MILLS OF THE GODS GRIND SLOWLY"
(8th S. x. 468).— May I supplement the notice of
this proverb by a reference to the earliest Greek
form 1—
o^-e 0€<ui> aAcoixrt /wAoi, aAeovou fie Acrrra
("Proverbia e Cod. Ooisl,," num. 396, in Gaisf.
1 Parrem. Grsec.,' Oxon., 1836, p. 164). See also
'N. & Q.,' 7tn S. i. 24; ii. 304. Archbishop
Trench gives the Greek form in his ' Lessons on
Proverbs,' Lect. vi. p. 142, 1857.
ED. MARSHALL.
NOTES ON BOOKS, &0.
A Satiricall Dialogve. [By William Goddard.] Edited
by John S. Farmer. (Privately printed. )
AMONG English satirists William Goddard is the 'most
venomous and the least known. Our early writers prided
themselves upon the sharpness of the lash they wielded.
Witness titles such as ' The Scourge ' or ' Six Snarling
Satires.' Goddard if, so far as is known, the author of
three works, all of supassing rarity : ' A Satiricall Dia-
logue now first Ocvpyed [sic] from a Unique Copy in the
British Museum,' * A Neaste of Waspes latelie found put
and discovered in the Law [Low] Countreys ' (of which
two copies are known), and ' A Mastif Whelp, with other
ruff-Island-lik Currs fetcht from amongst the Antipedes,'
&c., extracts from which are printed in Bliss's Wood's
' Fasti.' A short life of Goddard, supplying little beyond
a list of his works and some conjectures, was contributed
by Mr. Sidney Lee to the « Dictionary of National Bio-
graphy.1 Dr. Furnivall, meanwhile, has prepared an
edition of Goddard's three known books, with a view to
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
359
publication. Ilia material and notea have been placed
at the disposition of Mr. Farmer, the result being the
appearance of the present volume, tbe first of a series of
«' Choice Books and Unique MSS." This, the first of
Ooddard's productions to be brought within the reach
of students, was " Imprinted in the Low-countryes for
all such Gentlewomen as are not altogether Idle nor yet
well occupied." Tbe conjectural place and date of pub-
lication are Dort, 1615. It is one of the most relentless
satires on woman of which Englishmen, less outspoken
in this matter tban the Latin races, are guilty, and takes
the form of a dialogue between Alexander and Diogynes.
The former, who is at first, or thinks himself, unknown
to the cynic, asks him why he is never seen at Court.
Diogynes (" poore eillie snake," aa Alexander calls him)
responds that 'tis because he ia an honest man, and pro-
testa against visiting a place
To see your mincyng bewteous cyttie dames
Haue alwaies some one gallant of the court
(As kinsman to them) to their howse resort.
The opportunity is thus afforded to let the tongue of
Diogynes wag, and wag it does to some purpose. We
would not be ungallant enough to give any specimen of
his railing against the fair sex, holding it not " honesty
to have it thus set down." Suffice it to say that Goddard
ie like the old religious uncle of Rosalind, " who was in
bis youth an inland man, one that knew courtship too
well," who taxed the whole sex with so many giddy
offences, of which " There were none principal ; they
were all like one another as halfpence are." In the heat
of his argument Diogenes recites at some length the
dreams of three sisters, none of which could by any
possibility be extracted. Goddard is, indeed, as out-
spoken aa Marston or Sir John Harington, or, indeed,
as Ariosto himself, whom Harington translated. Mr.
Farmer ia doing good service in rescuing rare works
from the chances, always great, of destruction when but
a single copy exists; and though we have no special
commendation to bestow on Goddard'a views or utter-
ances, we trust to see all his works put beyond the reach
of loss. The next work on hia list, however, is an
unpublished work of Thomas Nasb, not included in
Dr. Grosart's edition of that author. It ia to be printed
for the first time from a curious and unique MS. We
hope to see this series extended. Mr. Farmer is doing
alone the work previously performed by corporations
and societies
The Student's Dictionary of Anglo-Saxon. By Henry
Sweet, M.A., Ph.D. (Oxford, Clarendon Press.)
THIS new contribution of Dr. Sweet to our knowledge of
the origin of our language was undertaken at the sug-
gestion and the request of the Delegates of the Clarendon
Press, who, knowing the conscientiousness as well as the
thoroughness of Dr. Sweet's work, and being themselves
in need of a work of the class, applied to him, and were
not disappointed. To a certain extent it is an abridg
ment of the forthcoming Bosworth-Toller * Anglo-Saxon
Dictionary,' now, it is pleasant to hear, approaching
completion. During a long period Bosworth's * Anglo-
Saxon Dictionary,' an "uncritical compilation," had
been the chief resource of English students. German
lexicons were accessible to the better-informed scholar,
but these, even, had grave defects of system and arrange-
ment. Later came the ' Concise Anglo-Saxon Dictionary*
of Dr. Clark Hall, an American scholar, a work which
though uncritical and embodying many spurious words
and meanings, has been of service to Dr. Sweet. To
understand the system on which the author has worked —
the amount of needless and embarrassing matter that he
has omitted, the judicious manner in which juotations
have been supplied when they illustrate idioms or simplify
llustration, the manner generally, indeed, in which
apace has been saved in one respect and expended in
another — it ia necessary to turn to the book. It is im-
possible for us, within the limits at our disposal, to give
;he slightest indications of the utility of the compilation.
Scholarship owes Dr. Sweet one more debt, of which
acknowledgment ia gladly made. The work does not
aim at being complete and final. For that we must wait
for the work on which it is based. It will, however, be
generally conceded that, for the purpose of the student,
ao work so trustworthy, so convenient, and so valuable
has seen the light.
On the Trail of Don Quixott. By August F. Jaccaci.
Illustrated by Daniel Vierge. (Lawrence & Bullen.)
LA MANOHA, the country of Don Quixote, diligently
explored by the author of this volume and graphically
illustrated by the pencil of Mr. Vierge, haa changed less
since the time of Don Quixote than have many other
portiona of the peninsula. The life now depicted, accord-
ingly, is almost the same aa that which was witnessed
by the Don, and the volume is a pleasing companion to
those familiar with his adventures. We followed with
interest both letterpress and illustrations upon their first
appearance in the pages of an American magazine, and
are glad to possess them in tbe goodly and attractive
shape always taken by the publications of Messrs. Law-
rence & Bullen. Mr. Jaccaci writes pleasantly, and
conveys a faithful idea of a life, in which, in the midst
of exceptional dirt, discomfort, and squalor, you meet
with interesting and gratifying traces of national cha-
racter. The illustrations of Mr. Vierge, mean time, are
full of life and character, and convey an admirable idea
of the summer atmosphere in Spain. The designs are at
times too faint to be wholly intelligible, but the figures
are drawn with skill and precision, and there are some of
which Meissonier need not be ashamed. Though we
counsel all to read ' Don Quixote ' who have not already
done ao, we are very far from advising them, unless
ardent lovers of travel, to follow in the wake of author
and artist. Should they act either on the advice we
supply or on that we withhold, they will be the better
for the possession of this volume.
Icelandic Sagas and other Historical Documents relating
to the Settlements and Descents of the Northmen on the
British Isles. Vols. III. and IV. Translated by Sir
G. W. Dasent. (Eyre & Spottiswoode.)
A TRANSLATION of the Northern sagaa which were
issued by the Master of the Bolls under the careful
editorship of the late Mr. Vigfnsson is a great gain to
English students of history — only second, indeed, to the
publishing of the original texts. Few of us are familiar
enough with the old Norse tongue, in which these
precious documents were composed, to be able to use
them with facility, and those who are so cannot but feel
that to have an English version at hand is a great help.
Then, too, the introductions to the volumes contain much
new knowledge. We have, for one thing, a sketch of the
invasions of Orkney and Shetland which is very valuable,
as it has been written by one to whom every rood of
those islands seems to have been rendered familiar by
personal exploration. The identification of tbe modern
place-names with those in the old histories is a very
valuable feature. There can be little room for doubt that
most of them are correct; tbe few errors, if such there
be, will, we need not fear, be criticized by future investi-
gators. We must point out, moreover, that these name-
interpretations must prove of wider usefulness than the
mere explaining of the names now existing in the isles
of far Northern Britain. They cannot fail to be of
service as guides for those engaged in investigating the
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meanings of the place-names of those parts of Englanc
which retain traces of occupation by the Northern
invaders. Work of this sort has been done already with
some valuable results, but we are sorry to have to add that
all the labourers in this rich field have not been skillec
workmen. We have many a time come upon suggestions
of name • origins which were the merest guesses. It
need not be pointed out that guesses of this sort are
quite as Billy as the same kind of thing when practised
upon the words of our dictionary English and its sister
dialects.
We trust these sagas will have many readers. Mythic
and imaginative details enter therein, as they do into all
history written by contemporaries, from the early
chronicles down to the despatches of war correspondents
which we read in our daily newspaper. It is important
to remark that, like our own 'Saxon Chronicle,' these
sagas contain fragments of verse of great interest which
in a translated form have much of the spirit of the
original?. Neither may we fail to point out that there is a
long note in the introduction to the third volume de-
scribing, as has never been done in English before, what
was the form and equipment of the long ships in which
the Northmen crossed the German Ocean when they
came to harry the shores of France and England. " The
story of Earl Magnus has an especial interest, inas-
much as it is connected with the cathedral of Kirk-
wall," the glory of the Orkneys, and, indeed, of all the
North. In this church St. Magnus had a stately shrine
which, with all its treasures, was swept away at
the Reformation. His bones, however, were preserved
by being built up in one of the great pillars of the
choir; meddling hands disturbed them some >ears ago,
but it is satisfactory to learn that when they had been
examined they were returned to the nook they had
occupied since the sixteenth century. The bones of
Bishop William, who is regarded as the first bishop of
the Orkneys, were found in 1848 when the church was
under repair. They were enclosed in a stone cist, along
with an inscribed leaden plate and the head of his
pastoral staff. The bones and the cist were carted
away as rubbish ; the inscribed plate and the crozier-
head are in the museum of the Scottish Society of Anti-
quaries. The translator records a curious bit of folk-
lore regarding the little island of Eyn-hallow — that is,
Holy Isle — the ground of which is regarded as so sacred
that neither rats nor mice can live there, and it is
added that if any one presumes to cut corn after sunset
the straw drops blood.
The Holy Bible. (Prowde.)
The Boole of Common Prayer. (Same publisher.)
FROM the Oxford University Press, with all conceivable
luxury and elegance of paper, printing, binding:, and
form generally, reach us the ' Queen's Diamond Jubilee
Bible ' and the ' Queen's Diamond Jubilee Prayer Book.'
Both works are issued in various sizes and prices, and
both have specially beautiful and attractive features.
Those now before us, in their handsome morocco
bindings and with the edges gilt over red, are lovely
in all respects. The Prayer Book has a portrait of the
Queen about 1837, from a portrait by Aglaio, showing
her in her crown and robes of state, and a second from
a recent photograph, also depicting her in her royal
attire. Sufficiently striking is, of course, the contrast
between the two. Besides these portraits are six
pictures not hitherto used as Prayer-Book illustrations,
one of them being of Christ bearing the Cross, from the
altarpiece in Magdalen College, Oxford, and a second
of Christ in the Garden, from the altarpiece of All
Souls'. The portraits in the Bible are similarly con-
trasted, one showing the Queen attending, about 1837,
divine service in St. George's Chapel, and a second
being a photograph of to-day, presenting Her Majesty
seated on a chair, and holding her walking-stick.
There are, besides, seven illustrations, representing
Faith, Hope, Charity, Justice, Prudence, Temperance,
and Fortitude, from the cartoons painted for the famous
window in New College, Oxford. A handsomer or more
agreeable souvenir of a unique season is scarcely to be
hoped.
KingNoaneit. By F. J. Stimson. (Lane,)
So animated and stimulating an account does Mr. Stim-
aon supply of the colonization of Virginia and the early
struggles of the New England settlers that, although we
can find not the slightest justification for the adventures
subsequent to the outbreak of 1655 of Penruddock, and
are obliged to regard the book as an experiment rather
in the line of De Foe than in that of Thackeray, we are
glad to recommend the volume to those interested in the
less familiar aspects of the Commonwealth struggles. Its
atmosphere is particularly pleasing.
Who's Who, 1897. (Black.)
UNDER the editorship of Mr. Douglas Sladen our familiar
friend ' Who 's Who ' has made a long step in advance.
It is now no longer a mere handbook to the titled and
official classes, but aims at including all the most pro-
minent people in the kingdom, an aim towards the
realization of which it makes some approach. It occu-
pies between eight and nine hundred pages, and, though
we look in vain for some names we have a right to
expect, it is more satisfactory in all respects than the
rather sleepy works in whose tracks it follows. It is a
reproach that we cannot have an English Vapereau.
MR. HENRY FHOWDB will publish shortly the second
part of the ' Yattendon Hymnal,' containing fifty hymns
in four parts, with English words, for singing in churches,
edited by Robert Bridges. It may be recalled that the
first part, which appeared in 1895, was hailed as a pub-
lication of the greatest importance, containing excellent
new tunes and resettings. This hymnal is being printed
with the quaint music types of Peter Walpergen and the
fine roman and italic of Bishop Fell at the Oxford Uni-
versity Pros?, and issued in royal quarto and (limited)
folio editions.
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LONDON, SATURDAY, MAI' 8, 1897.
CONTENTS.— N° 280.
NOTES :— Danteiana, 361— English Books on Alchemy, 363
— Chapel-Snake=Cobra de Capello— Changes in Trades,
364 — George Romney — Ghost-Names — " To stand the
racket" — " Three acres and a cow "— Free-Lance— M. P. s in
' Dictionary of National Biography, 365—" Civis Romanus
sum "—Invention of Guillotine, 366.
QUERIES :— Scots Greys at Blenheim— Ship Constitution-
Veil of Mary Stuart— " Toad under the harrow "— " Cadock "
— Holmby House— Local Areas in North of England— Bible
of 1650— "Tenor Bells, 367-Capt. Butler Cole— Evance—
" Not worth a rap "—Preservation of Bronze— Binstead —
J. Callow — Phillips-Judd — Nursery Rhyme— Dean An-
thony Thompson — ' La Chanson de Roland ' — Ben Jonson,
368— Motto in Gibbon — Irishmen as Costers — Dukes of
Aquitaine— Rev. Moses Williams, 369.
REPLIES :— Browning's Maternal Ancestors— Chaucer and
Villani, 369—" Dead rides Sir Morten," &c.— " Rarely," 370
—Eagles Captured at Waterloo— Scott's ' Old Mortality '—
"Fighting like devils," &c., 371 — Sir M. Costa — "To
wallop"— Wyvill — Author Wanted — Cutting off Dairy-
maids' Hair, 372 — ' Mally Lee'— London Topography-
Dutch Scots Brigade, 373— Medals for the Nile— "Ars6
Verse"— Bishops' Wigs, 374— Holly Meadows— Fit— Fought
—Tomb of Mabmood of Ghuznee— " Feer and Flet." 375—
" Skates ".- " Scatches"— First Twenty British Steamers-
Red, White, Blue— John Clayton, 376— Blanckenhagen—
Hanwell Church— Law Stationer — " Pinaseed"— Wooden
Pitchers, 377— Noblemen's Door-plates— Hotham, of Dalton
—Relics, 378— Pur-blind, 879.
NOTES ON BOOKS :— Sinker's 'Biographical Notes on
Librarians of Trinity College '— Cassell's ' Queen's Empire '
— Reviews and Magazines.
Notices to Correspondents.
DANTEIANA.
(See 8th S. i. 4, 113; ii. 22; v. 162, 269, 481; vii. 44,
146, 217, 410 ; ix. 183.)
1. < Inferno,' viii. 70-73 :—
Ed io : Maestro, gia le sue meschite
La entro certo nella valle cerno
Vermiglie, come se di foco uecite
Fosse ro.
Bat for Scartazzini's singular assumption in his
comment on the word meschite I should have
passed over the expression as unsuggestive of
discussion. The Professor's remarks (edizione
minore) are these : —
" Meschite : moschee ; coal chiomansi i templi dei
Mussulman!. Sembra che le fortezze della citta infernale
avessero la medesima forma. Forse vuol dire con ad,
che la religione di Maometto trae sua origine dall'
Inferno. Che poi quelle meschite foseero torri lo dicono
Boltanto i commentator!, Dante no."
It is to the sentence which I have italicized that I
take exception. Of course, to be just, the insinuation
is qualified by "forse," but for all that it imputes,
and unwarranted by the text, to Dante what I am
very sure he never meant to imply. He is but an
ignoble follower of the Cross who goes out of his
way to insult those of the Crescent or any other
creed, and Dante was certainly not that. What-
ever the poet may have thought of the tenets of
the Koran, he was not the man to publicly assign
to them a hell-born origin. Dante was no bigot
in an offensive sense. Abuses, not systems,
excited his withering scorn, and I am surprised
that Scartazzini ignores this fact. Lombardi
contents himself with reverently explaining the
allusion : —
" Meschite, e vocabolo Saracinesco (chiosa il Buti,
citato a questa voce nel Vocab. Della Or.), ed e luogo
dove i Saracini vanno ad aclorare (moschee in liriguaggio
nostro appellansi cotali luoghi) ; e perche quei luogbi
banno torri a modo di cainpanili, ove montano li loro
sacerdoti a chiamar il popolo, che vada ad adorare Iddio ;
pero 1' autore chiama le torri di Dite meschite.'1
Whether meschite means towers or mosques we
have, in the face of Dante's silence, no basis,
beyond conjecture, for decision. My own view,
seeing that Dis was a fortified city, inclines me to
Lombardi's, despite Scartazzini's emphatic "Dante
no." Moslem mosques have their " campanili,"
which are just as strictly towers as are Christian
belfries, and either Dante used the word meschite
instead of torri, to rhyme and scan with the line
ending in Dite, or he substituted the totum pro
parte.
Lord Vernon supports Lombardi in his advocacy
of torri, and emphasizes it with alte : " Meschite
—moschee — alte torri somiglianti ai templi dei
Turchi, co&i chiamate." Translators are not
always nor necessarily critics, but I append a few
as showing their handling of the word under dis-
cussion : —
And I : "Its mopques already. Master, clearly
Within there in the valley I discern
Vermilion, as if issuing from the fire
They were." Longfellow.
And I : "Already in the deep-sunk land,
Master, its mosque-like buildings I descry ;
As rising out of fire, they crimson'd stand."
Prebendary Ford.
I thus : " The minarets already, Sir !
There, certes, in the valley I descry,
Gleaming vermilion, as if they from fire
Had issued." Gary.
" Master," said I, " I clearly note the same ;
Its mocques in yonder valley, like a pyre
Vermilion, as if issuing from the flame."
Prof. Tomlinson.
And I : " 0 Master, even now are shown
Its minarets, far off in yonder dale ;
Vermeil, as if from out a furnace thrown,
They rise." Dean Plumptre.
The dean here ventures on a slight commentary
thus : —
"The 'minarets' speak of a knowledge of Eastern
cities which may have been learnt from Marco Polo,
who returned to Venice in 1295, or other travellers. The
word was probably chosen on account of its associations
with heathen barbarians."
This is a shade better than Scartazzini, and also a
shade worse. The poet is credited with a meagre
acquaintance with Oriental topography, which is
well ; but he is also presumably assumed to be
woefully ignorant of Mohammedan theology, which
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is bad, for Moslems are not necessarily heathens.
It may be that the good dean took " minarets " for
pagan pagodas, which would lessen the sting of
the charge ; but I am not aware that pagodas are
equipped with towers. At all events, the notion is
less monstrous than Scartazzini's, though neither
Daate nor any one else has any right to consign
even heathens, qua such, to hell. I am quite
aware that our poet, in the three following cantos,
metes out scant mercy to heretics, which only the
presumption of malcefidei on their part can justify,
and which holds good for all wilfully outside
Christianity. Viewed in this modified sense Scar-
tazzini's comment is capable of extenuation, albeit,
me judice, its sweeping character still exposes it
to the charge of misrepresentation.
2. ' Inferno,' viii. 97:—
O caro duca mio, che piu di setto
Volte m' hai sicurta renduta, e tratto
D' alto periglio che 'ncontra mi stette.
Another slight Crux Danteiana. What were these
seven dangers from which one poet freed another ?
Dante is delightfully tantalizing in his allusions,
but we could bear with them more tranquilly if he
had graced his lines with foot-notes for the benefit
of readers who are not his contemporaries. Such
a procedure would in nowise have detracted from
the interest of his poem, though it might have
done from its obscurity. Gary's summary of con-
jectures on this passage is worth transcribing : —
" The commentators, says Venturi, perplex themselves
with the inquiry what seven perils these were from
which Dante had been delivered by Virgil. Reckoning
the beasts in the first canto as one of them, and adding
Charon, Minos, Cerberus, Plutus, Phlegyas, and Filippo
Argenti, as so many others, we shall have the number ;
and if this be not satisfactory, we may suppose a deter-
minate to have been put for an indeterminate number."
Scartazzini also rightly holds the "indeterminate"
or Scriptural theory, which is as simple as it is
satisfactory. Had commentators accepted it before,
their perplexity would have been non-existent.
But then these gentlemen would mope were there
no cruces to perplex them, and where there are
none they revel in creating them. " Ghacun & son
gouV1 By the way, my copy of Scartazzini has
" D' altro periglio " in the text, a manifest misprint
as much from his note bearing the correct transcript,
"99. Alto: grave, grande," as from the obvious
drift of the line. Lombardi'a view is equally
sensible : —
"II Vellutello e il Rosa van rintracciando le precise
sette volte che fu gia Dante da Virgilio difeso ; ma riesce
di maggior eleganza 1'intendere adoperato il numero
determinate per 1' indeterminate."
3. ' Inferno,' ix. 23-27.—
Conguirato da quella Eriton cruda, &c.
Has Dante made a chronological slip here or not ?
Scholars quarrel and students worry over the
answer. Some saddle the poet with a crass
anachronism, others tax him only with poetic
licence. Which are right ? Says Scartazzini : —
"0 Dante errd qui nella cronologia, oppure egli
suppone che Eritone sopravvivesse a Virgilio e face»se
gia vecchia rivivere un altro morto, il che e ignoto alia
mitologia antica."
And Gary : —
''Dante appears to have fallen into an anachronism.
Virgil's death did not happen till long after this period.
But Lombardi shows, in opposition to the other com-
mentators, that the anachronism is only apparent.
Erictho might well have survived the battle of Pbarealia
long enough to be employed in her magical practices at
the time of Virgil's decease."
Lombardi's note is too lengthy for transcription
here verbatim, but one excerpt is unavoidable.
After quoting Gastelvetro, Venturi, and Morando,
he gives Mazzoni's suggestion : —
" lo credo, ch' egli (cioe Dante) volesse intendere d' un'
altra donna maga, la quale egli finge che fosse dopo la
morte di Virgilio : e la nomina Erittone, perche quel
nome fu conveniente a tutte le donne venefiche e maghe,"
and then adds his own : —
" Forse sar& cosi : ma potrebb' anche aver Dante intesa
la steesissima maga di Lucano, senz' anacronismo, e seoza
contraddizione veruna. Contansi egli forse tra la Guerra
Farsalica e la morte di Virgilio pin che soli trent' anni?
Perche adunque non pote Dante fingere, che sopravivisse
a Virgilio, e che nuovi prodigi operasse colei che sapera
rendere vita anche ai morti ? "
Either Mazzoni's or Lombardi's explanation
satisfies me amply to clear Dante of any conscious
blundering. No doubt Erictho was a generic term,
like Pharaoh and Ptolemy and Caesar ; or, by a
poetic fiction, the poet makes the Erictho of Lucan
survive Virgil. Poets are not fettered by the unities
any more than novelists. Historically the facts of
the case are these, according to Lucan (' Pharsal.,'
vi. 508). Erictho (written Eritton by Lombardi and
Eriton by Scartazzini), a Thessalian sorceress, was
commissioned by Sextus, son of Pompey the Great,
to conjure up a spirit to tell him the issue of the
battle of Pharsalia. The battle took place in 48 B.C.,
and Virgil's death occurred some thirty years later,
in 19 B.C. The point that distresses so many
scholars is that Lucan's witch could hardly have
summoned Virgil's spirit, seeing that she pre-
deceased him by so long an interval of time. But
why should it ? Too much ink has already been
spiit over this trifle. May this be the last !
4. Though decidedly uncritical, the following is
deserving of permanent record under * Danteiana.'
I clipped it from the "Books and Bookmen"
column of the Manchester Guardian of 11 April,
1896 :—
"A remarkable Dante collection has just been pre-
sented to Cornell University by its librarian, Mr. Fiske,
who, unlike most librarians, is a millionaire. According
to the Speaker, Mr. Fiske collected 3,000 volumes relat-
ing to Dante in little more than a year, a feat that could
not be accomplished by the aid of wealth alone. He
secured the first edition of the ' Divine Comedy,' printed
by Numeister at Foligno in 1472, his copy being one
S. XI. MAY 8, '970
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363
which belonged to Luca Pulci, brother of the author of
the « Morgante Maggiore.' He also acquired the Venice
edition of 1477, and seven fifteenth century issues of
Landino's annotated edition. This list, of course, is far
from complete, but Mr. Fieke purchased all the sixteenth
century editions except three or four ; the only three
editions published in the seventeenth century, when
Dante was for a time eclipsed; and all but eight of the
numerous eighteenth century editions. Since 1800 the
study of Dante has been pursued with new energy both
in Italy and abroad, and the important modern editions,
commentaries, and translations which Mr. Fiske has
brought together no doubt constitute the greater portion
of the collection. There are versions of Dante in
Armenian, Bohemian, Catalan, Danish, Dutch, English,
French, German, modern Greek, Hebrew, Hungarian,
the dialects of Italy, Latin, Polish, Russian, Sanscrit,
Spanish, Swedish, and even in Volapuk, and Cornell has
specimens of them all. To complete the collection,
there are magazine articles, journals of Dante societies,
and some of the privately printed tracts which are often
distributed at weddings in Italy.
"Cornell is now reputed to have the finest Dante
library outside Italy, where it is surpassed by the collec-
tion in the National Library at Florence. Harvard, the
University of Longfellow, Norton, and Lowell, has long
had a very large quantity of Dante literature, which is
not allowed to remain unread. It is to be hoped that
Cornell may imitate Harvard, not only in acquiring
books about Dante, but in encouraging its members to
study them. In England, where there are no millionaire
librarians, the revival of interest in Italian literature
must precede the foundation of a special library, but it
would be as well if those in charge of public libraries
were to see that they have at least a set of the Italian
classics on their shelves."
As no article under the above beading subsequent
to the death of PROF. TOMLINSON would be com-
plete without a reference to him, may I be per-
mitted to add a word to what has already appeared
in 'N. & Q.'? His loss to Dante students is
beyond telling, and to none more so than to myself.
My too brief correspondence with him during the
last three years on our kindred study was of incal-
culable benefit to me. I append a few extracts of
general interest : —
"I have a large collection of notes, the result of
thirty-six Barlow lectures on the 'Divine Comedy.' I
am getting up a volume on one part of the subject."—
12 April, 1894.
"I think it is good practice for contributors (to
' N. & Q.') to communicate with each other sub rosd,
for by this means their communications are more matured
when they appear in print As I am in my eighty-
seventh year, I do not count time by the year or the
month, but only from day to day."— 18 January, 1895.
" Dr. Barlow's Library is rich in commentaries, but I
am too weak and ill to get to University College, Gower
Street, to see them."— 27 February, 1895.
As an appropriate wind-up to this short tribute
to the memory of this accomplished Dante scholar,
let me quote the pathetic words with which he
concludes the preface to his ' Dante, Beatrice, and
the Divine Comedy,' 1894 : " My work in life is
finished, and I await with as much patience as I
can command the call to the higher life." The " call"
has come. " Pax ossibus suis." J. 6. 3.
ENGLISH BOOKS ON ALCHEMY.
Anthonie, F. The Apologie ; or, defence of a verity
heretofore published concerning a medicine called
Aurum Potabile. London, 1616, 4to. B.M., 1034, k. 41.
Ashmole, E. Theatrum Chemicum Britannicum :
containing poeticall pieces of our famous English philo-
sophers who have written the hermetique mysteries in
their own ancient language collected by E. A.
qui est Mercuriophilus Anglicus. The first part.
London, 1652 [1651], 4to. B.M., E. 653. Another copy
at B.M., 239, k. 6, with MS. notes and additional plates.
Ashmole. E. The Way to Bliss. In three books.
London, 1658, 4to. B.M., E. 940/3.
Bacon, R. The Mirror of Alchimy, composed by R.
Bacon. Also a most excellent and learned discourse of
the admirable force and efficacie of art and nature. (The
Smaragdine Table of Hermes Trismegistus, a com-
mon tarie of Hortilanus, the Booke of the Secrets of
Alchemie by Galid, the son of Jazich.) London, 1597,
4to. B.M., 1033, f. 6/1.
Beguin, J. Tyrocinium Chymicum ; or, chymical
essays, acquired from the fountain of nature. London,
1669, 8vo. B.M., 7509, a. Imperfect copy.
Bolton, H. C. Alchemy and Numismatics. (From
the American Journal of Numismatics.) Boston, 1887,
8vo. B.M., 7757, f. 28/6.
Bombast v. Hohenheim, P. A. T., called Paracelsus :
Paracelsus of the Chymical Transmutation, Genealogy,
and Generation of Metals and Minerals Wbereunto is
added Philosophical and Chymical Experiments of.
Raymond Lully Translated by R. Turner. Lon-
don, 1657, 8vo. B.M., E 1590/3.
Bombast v. Hohenheim, P. A. T., called Paracelsus :
Paracelsus, his Aurora, and Treasure of the Philosophers :
as also the Water-stone of wise men, describing the
matter of and manner bow to attain the universal tincture.
Englished by H. J. London, 1659, 12mo. B.M.,
8907, a. 22.
Colson, L. Philosophia Maturata : an exact piece of
Philosophy, containing the practick and operative part
thereof in gaining the Philosopher's Stone. With the
ways how to make the Mineral Stone and the calcination
of mettals. Whereunto is added a work compiled by S.
Dunstan concerning the Philosopher's Stone, and the
experiments of Kumelius and preparations of Angelo
Sala. London, 1668, 12mo. B.M., 1033, d. 15/1.
Combachius, L. II. Sal, Lumen et Spiritus Mundi
Philosophic! ; or, the dawning of the day, discovered by
the beams of light : shewing the true salt and secret of
the philosophers, the first and universal spirit of the world.
Written originally in French [by the Baron de Nuise-
ment] turned into Latin by L. Combachius and
now transplanted into Albion's Garden by R. T[urnerj.
London, 1657, 8vo. B.M., 8630, a. 21.
Culpepper, N. Mr. Culpepper's treatise of Aurum
Potabile to which is added Mr. C.'s Ghost. 2 parts.
London, 1656, 8vo. B.M., 1032, b. 3.
Dee, A. Fasciculus Chemicus; or, chymical col-
lections Wbereunto is added the Arcanum or Grand
Secret of Hermetick Philosophy. Both made English
by J. Hasolle qui est Mercuriophiltis Anglicus [i. e.,
E. Ashmole]. London, 1650, 8vo. B.M., E 1325.
Euonymus, Philiatrus p. «., C. Gesner]. The Treasure
of Evonymus conteyninge the wonderfull hid secretes of
nature, touchinge the most apte formes to prepare and
destyl medicines Translated out of Latin by P,
Morwyng. London [1559], 4to. B.M., 46, n. 2.
Euonymus, Philiatrus ft. e., C. Gesner]. A new booke
of destillatyon of waters, called the Treasure of Evonymus
Whereunto are ioyned the formes of sondry apt
furnaces Translated out of Latin by P. Morwyng.
London, 1565, 4to. B.M., 462, c. 11.
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FiguluB, B. [i. e., B. Torpfer]. A Golden and Blessed
Casket of Nature's Marvels Now first done into Eng-
lish [by A. B. Waite] from the German original published
at Scrasburg in 1608. London, 1893, 8vo. B.M.,
8905. bb. '29.
Fiamel, N. Nicholas Flamrael, his exposition of the
hieroglyphica!! figures wbich he caused to bee painted
upon an arch in S. Innocent's Churchyard in Paris.
Together with the secret booke of Artepbius and the
epistle of John Pontanus : concerning both the theoricke
and the practicke of the Philosopher's Stone. Faith-
fully and religiously done into English by Cirae-
nus Orandus. London, 1624, 12mo. B.M., 1032, c. 5.
[Reprint edited by W. W. Westcott.] London [1890],
4to. B.M., 8905, df. 17.
Glauber, J. E, A description of new Philosophical
Furnaces ; or, a new art of distilling, divided into five
parts Whereunto is added a description of the
Tincture of Gold, or the true Aurum Potabile : also the
first part of the Mineral Work. Set forth in English by
J. F., D.M. London, 1651, 4to. B.M., E. 649/3.
Glauber, J. R. The Works of J. R. Glauber con-
taining great variety of choice secrets in Medicine and
Alchymy : in the working of metallick mines and the
separation of metals Translated into English by
C. Packe. 3 parts. London, 1689, fol. B.M., 545, 1. 11.
Hfitchcock], E. A. Remarks upon Alchemy and the
Alchemists, indicating a method of discovering the true
nature of Hermetic Philosophy. Boston. 1857, 8vo.
B.M., 8907, aaa. 1.
Hartlib, S. Chymical, Medicinal and Chyrurgical
Addresses made to S. H. London, 1655, 12mo. B.M.,
1036, a. 37.
flelvetius, J. F. The Golden Calf, which the World
adores and desires. In which is handled the most rare
wonder of nature in transmuting metals. London,
1670, 12mo. B.M., 8907, a. 24.
Hermes (Trismegistus). "Aureus": the Golden
Tractacte concerning the physical secret of the
Philosopher's Stone. With an introductory essay by J.
Yarker. Bath, 1886, 4co. B.M., 8632, e. 17. One of
' The Bath Occult Repri-.ts."
Honpreght, J. F. Aurifontina Chymica; or, a col-
lection of fourteen small treatises concerning tbe first
matter of Philosophers, for tbe discovery of their
(hitherto so much concealed) Mercury. Which many
have studiously endeavoured to hide, but these to mnke
manifest for tbe henefit of mankind. London, 1680
12mo. B.M., 1036, a. 29.
Hortulanus, junior. The Golden Age; or, the reign
Saturn reviewed. Tending to set forth a true and
natural way, to prepare and fix common Mercury into
ilver and Gold, intermix'd with a discourse... ex-
plaining the Philosopher's Stone An essay"
preserved and published by R. G. London, 1698, 12mo.'
i>. iVi., 1033, d. 37.
Jabir Ibn tfaiyan al TargusL The Works [or rather
Summ \ Perfectionis, Liber investigationis magisterii De
mventione veritatis et Liber Fornacum] of Geber*
-nglished by R. Russel. London, 1678, 8vo. B'.ftLJ
236, i. 19.
Jabir Ibn .ffaiyan al T'arsusi. The Discovery of Secrets
attributed to Geber, from tbe MS. With a rendering
into i English by R. R. Steele. London, 1892, 8vo. B.M.,
14544, c.
Kelley, otherwise Talbot, E. The Alchemical Writings
?L« Kellv> Translated from the Hamburg edition of
JJ376, and edited with a biographical preface [by A. E
Waite]. London, 1893, 8vo. B.M., 8905, de. 35.
ROBT. ALEC. PBDDIE.
0, Weltje Road, Hammersmith, W.
(.To be continued.]
CHAPEL-SNAKE = COBRA DE CAPELLO. — In "A
Relation of Two Several Voyages made into the
East Indies, by Christopher Fryke, Surg., and
Christopher Schewitzer [sic] Done out of the
Dutch by S. L." (London, 1700), on p. 291 occurs
the following : —
"Another sort, which is called, Chapel-Snakes, be-
cause they keep in Chupels or Churches, and sometimes
in Houses. These are very mischievous and venomous,
and without a timely Antidote, they who are bit by
them die infallibly. They are commonly from 4 to 6
foot long ; and they have a sort of Bladder, or spot of
white, which shews it self on the top of their Head when
they are vex'd."
The above is a fairly correct rendering of the
Dutch version ; but the latter, as well as the
original German of Schweitzer, indicates in plainer
language what snake is meant. The German runs :
" haben oben auf dem Kopff/ wan sie unwillig
und sich aufthun/ eine weisse blass/ formirt wie
eine Brill." This description can apply only to the
cobra de cnpello ; and the identity of the pious
"chapel-snake " is at once revealed. I cannot say
whether Schweitzer was the originator of this
amusing etymological blunder ; but it is worth
drawing attention to. It is somewhat surprising
that the late Sir Henry Yule seems to have over-
looked it ; at any rate, it is not recorded in ' Hob-
son- Jobson.' Neither does the ' New English
Dictionary* enter "chapel-snake," which is, how-
ever, a kind of " ghost word."
DONALD FERGUSON.
5, Bedford Place, Croydon.
CHANGES IN TRADES. — An old civic toast
began with ships at sea and ended with the pretty
little trunkmaker's daughter at tbe corner of St.
Paul's. The corners of St. Paul's acquire an
additional interest from the forthcoming ceremony
under its shadow, and one is led to look for links
between the present and the past ; but when last
I searched those corners, I found no trunkmaker's
pretty little daughter, indeed, no trunkmaker at
all. I wonder if she of the toast was named
Scabrook or Clements. Turning out the contents
of a trunk of other times, long stowed away, I was
struck by the label inside tbe top. It was that of
Scabrook, late Clements, No. 6, corner of St.
Paul's, next Cheapside. The original trunk and
bucket warehouse. Variety of fancy and gilt
leather trunks, cork jackets, fire buckets and
bottling boots. With modesty now rare, the
trunkmaker, or perhaps his pretty little daughter,
caused the label to be adorned, not with a palatial
representation of the emporium for their goods, but
with an eastern prospect of the cathedral church,
supplemented, however, by quaint drawings of the
articles specified. Now No. 5 has gone as far
away as possible ; all round St. Paul's there is not
one trunkmaker ; and, as for the goods they sold,
where are they sold now ? A fire-bucket I might
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be able to find ; but I doubt if any trunkmaker's
daughter would supply me with a cork jacket.
And where should I go to be measured for a pair
of bottling boots ? KILLIGREW.
Cairo.
GEORGE ROMNEY. — By a slight slip, Mr. Walter
Armstrong becomes guilty of a very absurd mis-
take in the 'Dictionary of National Biography'
(xlix. 199). He says : —
" The reaction against the popularity be [Romney]
enjoyed during his lifetime persisted until about 18</7,
when, owing chiefly to the winter exhibitions at Bur-
lington House, a higher opinion of his powers began to
prevail."
This should, of course, have been 1870. Romney
was not represented at the first exhibition in 1870,
and only by one example in 1871. It can hardly
be doubted, however, that the boom in Romneys
originated in consequence of these Old Masters'
Exhibitions, although the South Kensington Ex-
hibition in the "sixties" demonstrated the fact
that a very great portrait painter had been un-
deservedly neglected. It is an exceedingly inter-
esting and remarkable fact that Romney, who
tasted all the sweets of a very wide-spread popu-
larity in his lifetime, should have been clouded in
obscurity and neglect for nearly three-quarters of a
century after his death. W. ROBERTS.
Carlton Villa, Klea Avenue, Clapham, S.W.
MORE GHOST NAMES. — In an interesting paper
on ' Biggar,' by Mr. Pearson, printed in vol. xi. of
the Proceedings of the Literary and Scientific
Association of Barrow, there is a curious explana-
tion of the name " Cove o' Ken," which appears in
the Ordnance map. The engineer officer who sur-
veyed the Barrow district in 1875 did not under-
stand the Furness dialect, and made a hook-shaped
cape, called Calf Hook End, locally pronounced
" Coaf Hook End," into "Cove o' Ken," as it now
stands in the Ordnance map. In like manner
Root Ing Lane, so called from the adjoining
fields, called Root Ings, where they grew turnips,
was altered on the map to " Rating Lane." To
avoid blunders, the Ordnance officers ought to
understand local dialects. ISAAC TAYLOR.
" To STAND THE BACKET." — Not having been
able to meet with any satisfactory information,
either in printed books or MS. sources, as to the
origin of the old saying, " to stand [or bear, or pay]
the racket," in the sense of to put up with the con-
sequences, or to pay the damages or compensation
for an act, I venture to put forward the following
in elucidation. In ancient Scotch law, as well as
among the Anglo-Saxons, racket (rachetum, or
rachatum, from the French racheter, to redeem)
was equivalent to thief-bote, the compensation,
redemption, or ransom of a thief, and which
Bouvier ('Law Diet.,' Philad., 1870) considers as
''corresponding to Saxon weregild, a pecuniary
composition for an offence." Wergild was, how-
ever, as I take it, the price of a man's life, or, in
other words, the fine paid for killing a man. ' To
stand the racket," was, therefore, anciently, to pay,
or stand surety for the payment of, the ransom of
a thief, which ransom probably included com-
pensation for the loss, as well as a fine for the
offence. See also such authorities as Skene, Blount,
Cowel, &c., as to rachetum. W. I. R. V.
"THREE ACRES AND A cow.' — It has not, I
think, been noted separately in ' N. & Q.' that
MR. 0. L. C. MINOR, writing from Baltimore, U.S.
(8tl1 S. vii. 85, under ' A less Ancient Shooter's
Hill '), gives an American phrase parallel to that
attributed to Mr. Jesse Collings, but presumably
of a date much earlier, i. e., a date soon after
President Lincoln's emancipation proclamation.
The emancipated slaves appear to have expected
to get " ten acres and a mule*' apiece.
ROBERT PIERPOINT.
FREE-LANCE. — A request was made lately — 1
think on behalf of the ' N. E. I).'-— for an example
of the metaphorical use of this word. The Poet
Laureate supplies one when he says, " Free Lances
is a recognized pseudonym," in his ' The Season,'
p. 47, ed. 1869.
EDWARD H. MARSHALL, M.A*
Hastings.
'DICTIONARY OF NATIONAL BIOGRAPHY': M.IP.s*
— The following notes and emendations are sug-
gested by articles in vols. xlviii. and ilix.
Robert Rich, second Earl of Warwick, was M.I*,
for Essex in 1614.
The parliamentary course of the Iton, Francis
Robartes, fourth son of the first Earl of Radno^
was as follows: Bossiney, May, 1673 to 1679;
Cornwall, March to July, 1679, 1679-81, 1681*
August, 1685 till 1687; Lostwithiel, 1689-90;
Cornwall, 1690-5; Tregony, 1695-8, 1698-1700,
1700-1, 1701-2 ; Bodmin, December, 1702 till 1705,
1705-8; Lostwithiel, December, 1708 till 1710;
Bodmin, 1710-13, 1713-15, and 1715 till decease
in February, 1718.
Sir William Roberts, the Parliamentarian, who
represented Middlesex in the three Cromwellian
Parliaments of 1653, 1654-5, and 1656-8, died a
knight only. The first baronet of the family was
his son, and the title expired in 1698 with the
second baronet. Vide a pedigree of Roberts of
Willesden, by the late F. Gregson, in the Genea-
logist, v. 306, correcting the account of this
baronetcy in Burke's 'Extinct Baronetage.'
Daniel Rogers, Clerk to the Privy Council and
son of John Rogers, the martyr, was M.P. for
Newport, in Cornwall, in the Parliament of 1688^9.
Sir Edward Rogers, the comptroller, was M.P.
for Tavistock, 1547-52 ; Somerset, October to
December, 1553, 1558, 1559, and 1563-7.
366
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[8* S. XI. MAY 8, '97.
John Rogers, "of the Middle Temple," M.P.
for Wareham in 1584-5, 1586-7, and 1588-9.
Unless there is proof positive that he was identical
with John Rogers, LL.D., second son of the
martyr, I am inclined to think that he was second
son of Richard Rogers, of Brianstone, Dorset, and
heir to his elder brother Andrew (who was JM.F
for Wareham in 1584-5). In that case he would
be the John Rogers knighted on 23 July, 1603.
It is not improbable that the John Rogers, gent.,
who sat for Canterbury in 1601, was the martyr's
son. I should be obliged by evidence of this either
way.
Sir Francis Rolle, son of Chief Justice Henry
Rolle, was M.P. for Somerset, 1656-8; Bridgwater,
1660 and 1669 ; Hampshire, 1675-8 ; Bridgwater,
1678-9; Hampshire, 1679-81 and 1681. His will
was proved 3 Feb., 1686/7.
Admiral Sir George Rooke was M.P. for Ports
mouth continuously from 1698 till 1708.
William Roper, More's son-in-law. His full
parliamentary honours were Bramber, 1529-36 ;
Rochester, 1545-7 and 1547-52 ; Winchilsea,
March, 1553, and October to December, 1553 ;
Rochester, April to May, 1554, and November,
1554, to January, 1555 ; Canterbury, October to
December, 1555. Christopher Roper, his brother,
sat for Rochester in March, 1553.
Edward Russell, afterwards Earl of Oxford, was
M.P. for Launceston 1689-90, Portsmouth 1690-5,
and Cambridgeshire from 1695 till created a peer.
Francis Russell, afterwards fourth Earl of Bed-
ford, was M.P. for Lyme Regis 1610 to 1611.
W. D. PINK.
"Crvis ROMANUS SUM."— Lord Palmerston gets
the credit of being the originator of the proud
boast that every Englishman, wherever resident,
should be able to say " Civis Romanus sum," and
safely confide the defence of his rights to the
empire of which he was a citizen. I find, however,
that he was anticipated by Oliver Cromwell. In
book i. of his ' History of His Own Times,' Bishop
Burnet informs us that some of Admiral Blake's
sailors had got into trouble at Malaga for showing
disrespect to a procession of the Host. Blake
demanded that the priest who had incited the mob
in revenge to maltreat the sailors should be given
up to him, threatening that, if he was not sur-
rendered within three hours, he would burn the
town. The priest, on making his appearance
before Blake, defended what he had done as just
retribution for the impious conduct of the sailors.
" Blake answered that if he had sent a complaint to
him he would have punished them severely, since he
•would not suffer his men to affront the established
religion of any place at which he touched : but he took
it ill that he had set on the Spaniards to do it; for
he would have all the world to know, that an English-
man was only to be punished by an Englishman : and
BO he treated the priest civilly, and sent him back, being
satisfied that he had him at his mercy. Cromwell was
much delighted with this, and read the letters in Council
with great satisfaction; and said he hoped he should
make the name of an Englishman as great as ever that
of a Roman had been."
R. M. SPENCE, M.A.
Manse of Arbuthnott, N.B.
THE INVENTION OP THE GUILLOTINE. (See 8th S.
x. 195, 249, 298, 386,441 ; xi. 23.)— The following
may prove illustrative of this subject and may be
worth insertion. It would appear that criminals of
rank were beheaded with the sword in France in
the fifteenth and sixteenth centuries. In Froissart's
' Chronicles,' vol. ii. p. 465, London, 1839, is an en-
graving entitled " Execution of Aymerigot Marcel
at Paris, from MS. Froissart of the fifteenth cen-
tury." The culprit is represented with his eyes
bandaged, kneeling down with his hands clasped,
whilst at his back is the executioner wielding a
long two-handed sword. On one side is the priest
who has just given him absolution. The author
says that '* he was first carried in a cart to the
pillory in the market-place, and turned round
within it several times" (* Chronicles,' vol. iv.
cbap. xviii.). Queen Anne Boleyn was beheaded
in 1536 by the sword, by a French executioner,
sent for from Calais for the purpose by Henry VIII.,
the unfortunate queen kneeling down and having
her hair secured in a net. If we may believe
'Quentin Durward,' in the days of Louis XI.
of France wholesale executions by hanging took
place under the skilful hands of Petit Andr6 and
Trois Eschelles.
Nearly twenty years ago, my old friend the late
Rev. W. Falconer, M. A. , rector of Bushey, Herts,
made me a present of some etchings, the account of
which may prove illustrative of the history of the
guillotine. The etchings are nine in number, and
were accompanied by the following letter : —
" The accompanying engravings or etchings are after
some sketches made by an artist of the name Of Gabriel.
I saw the originals in the hands of a printseller many
years ago — I think, about the year 1831 or before — and I
desired to purchase them, but he declined to sell, on
the ground that he intended to have them engraved, and
on a subsequent visit to Paris I found that he had done
so. The etchings are faithful copies, but they do not
convey the artistic touches of the originals, which were
executed on small slips of paper, and, as I was informed,
with some danger to the artist."
The story goes that the artist stole into the
cells before the execution of the culprits, and
made these sketches. The inscription under one
of them may suffice, —
" Dessine d'apres nature par Gabriel . A. Simon .^Cor-
donnier a Paris . Officier municipal . Gardien du jeune
Louis XVII. au Temple. Ne* a Troyes, 1736. Decapite
avec Robespierre, Le 10 Thermidor an 2-29 juillet,
1794. Vigneres, Edr, 4, Rue du Carrousel, Paris."
The knife of the guillotine must indeed have
required frequent sharpening, The fear must have
been great in England lest the French Revolution
might have been imitated in our own country. On
8*8. XI. MAT 8, '97.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
367
the occasion of the arrival of the news of the exe-
cution of Louis XVI., 21 Jan., 1793, it is said
that the members of both Houses of Parliament
appeared in mourning, with one solitary exception,
that of a member who appeared in a blue coat and
buff waistcoat, the usual dress of a Whig nobleman
or gentleman at that time, His name is purposely
withheld. JOHN PICKFORD, M.A.
Newbourne Rectory, Woodbridge.
•tttftff*
We must request correspondents desiring information
on family matters of only private interest to affix their
names and addresses to their queries, in order that the
answers may be addressed to them direct.
SCOTS GREYS AT BLENHEIM. — What was the
uniform head-dress of the Royal Soots Dragoons,
or Royal North British Dragoons, whichever they
were called at the time, worn by the regiment at
the battle of Blenheim ? D.
SHIP CONSTITUTION. — Can any one kindly give
me the titles and authors' names of books, pam-
phlets, magazine articles, or guides (the more
statistical the better) respecting this historical
vessel, as much admired in America as the Victory
in England? St. Nicholas of February, 1895,
already seen. H. Y. P.
VEIL OF MART, QUEEN OF SCOTS.— I should be
glad to know where I can find some account of the
veil which is stated to have been worn by Queen
Mary on the scaffold. This veil appears to have
been given by Cardinal York to Sir J. Coxe
Hippisley. Is there not some doubt as to whether
it is a genuine relic ? G. W. WRIGLET.
68, Southborough Road, South Hackney.
" TOAD UNDER THE HARROW." — Who is the poet
referred to in the following passage from WyeliPs
sermon for the Fourth Sunday in Lent ((Sel. Eng.
Wks.,'ii. 280)?—
"Cristene men may seye, as pe poete seip in pro-
verbe, \>e frogge seide to \>e harwe, cursid be so many
lordis."
Q. V.
"CADOCK." — This word is said to mean a
bludgeon, a short, thick club, our sole authority
being a Somersetshire glossary by Messrs. Williams
and Jones (1873), compiled for the Somersetshire
Archaeological Society. I should be glad to know
whether any Somersetshire correspondent is able
to bear witness to the existence of the word.
THE EDITOR OF
'THE ENGLISH DIALECT DICTIONARY.'
Clarendon Press, Oxford.
HOLMBY (OR HOLDENBY) HOUSE, co. NORTH-
AMPTON.— Are there any paintings or engravings
which represent this house as it existed in 1047,
when Charles I. was a prisoner there. I know of
Buck's engraving and the one in Grose's ' Anti-
quities,' but they represent the house in ruins.
0. MASON.
29, Emperor's Gate, S.W.
LOCAL AREAS IN THE NORTH OF ENGLAND IN
DANISH AND NORMAN TIMES. — 1. Symeon of
Durham records that King Cnut gave to the
Church of St. Cuthbert (Durham) " mansionem
Standrope cum omnibus suis appendiciis id est
Cnapatun Scottun Rabi Wacarfield," &c. What
was the nature of appendicia ? Raby is at the
present day a township or civil parish. There is
also a manor or lordship of Raby, "cum suis
membris," but this probably originated later, when
the Nevills made Raby their home.
2. By a charter dated 1131 the Prior and
monks of St. Cuthbert granted to Dolfin, the son
of Ughtred, and his heirs, at a rent of 41. a year,
" Standropam et Standropciram cum omnibus quae
ad earn pertinent." Is it probable that Staindrop
and Staindropshire is identical with the appendicia
to Cnut's mansion of Staindrop ?
3. Dolfin's grandson and successor, Robert Fitz-
Maldred, married Isabella de Nevill, who on the
death of her brother Henry in 1227 became sole
heiress of the Nevill estates : their son Geoffrey
assumed the name of Nevill, and their descendants
became immensely wealthy and powerful, built the
Castle at Raby, and received the title of Earl of
Westmorland. Is it probable that Staindrop and
Staindropshire became under them the Manor of
Raby 1 BARNARD.
Baby Castle.
BIBLE OF 1650. —In 8vo., in blue morocco;
both Bible and Testament with engraved title,
bearing royal arms and printed centre ; translated
" By his Majesties Special Commandment " ; and
imprint, "London, Printed by the Company of
Stationers, 1650." The Old Testament has a
woodcut of Adam and Eve in Paradise at top of
Genesis. Bound with these is Sternhold and
Hopkins's c Psalms ' with title, " Printed by A. M.
for the Companie of Stationers, 1653"— printed,
not engraved. How did this edition come to be
published, as Charles was executed 30 January,
1649, Old Style, and the year 1650 commenced in
the subsequent March ? I suppose it must be rare ?
W. F.
TENOR BELLS AT ST. MICHAEL, CORNHILL, AND
WESTMINSTER ABBEY.— Speaking of the old bells
of St. Michael, Cornhill, Stow says :—
" The fair new steeple or bell-tower was begun to be
built in the year 1421, which being finished, and a fair
ring of five bells therein placed, a sixth bell was added
and given by John Whitwell, Isabell, his wife, and
William RUB, Alderman and Goldsmith about the year
1430, which bell named " Rus " nightly at eight of the
clock and otherwise for knells and in peals rung by one
man, for the space of one hundred and sixty years, of
368
NOTES AND QUERIES.
8. XI. MAY 8, '97.
late overhauled by four or five at once, hath been thrice
broken and new cust within the space of ten years to the
charges of that pariah more than one hundred marks."
The present peal at St. Michael's consists of twelve
bells (tenor 41 cwt.), all cast originally by Richard
Phelps, of the Whitechapel foundry, 1728, though
several have since been recast. Now the inscrip-
tion on the tenor at Westminster Abbey is
' Remember lohn Whitmell, Isabella his wife, and
William Rus, who first gave this bell, 1430, new
cast in July, 1599, and in April, 1738. Richard
Phelps T. Lester fecit." Is this tenor at West-
minster Abbey the same bell as the one mentioned
by Stow at St. Michaels ; and if so, how did she
get to Westminster ? J. R. JERRAM.
CAPT. BUTLER COLE.— Who was Capt. Thomas
Butler Cole, whose tomb is stated by Lysons to
have been in Marylebone Cemetery, ob. 1769
(Lysons's * Environs of London,' iii. 253) ? Is he
identical with Capt. Cole who died in Portland
Street in 1769, according to the obituary of the
Gentleman's Magazine ? Can any of your readers
help me to get at his parentage ? I believe he was
first Thomas Butler, and adopted the name of Cole.
w ., H. M. BATSON.
Welford, Berks.
EVANCE.— Rev. Nehemiah Evance, forty-four
years rector of Hanwood, Salop, died 1698. Can
any one say how he became inducted into the
living, where he came from, or where he was born ?
Any information will be valued, or information
regarding his father, Robert Evance, of Astlev
Salop. A v. E.
'- u "~;Dr- Brewer» in
, derives this from a base halfpennv
issued m Ireland in 1721, and also refers to a
Swiss com called a rappe, worth the seventh of a
penny. But Charles Reade, in the last chapter of
his charming story • Christie Johnston*,' tells
1 a greengrocer's son without a rapp " (sic), and in
a note states that a rapp is a diminutive German
Is there any proof that our common phrase
is derived from a paltry coin-Irish, Swiss, or
JAMES 'HOOPER.
PRESEKVATION OF BRONZE.-I have an Egyptian
god of bronze, which in the atmosphere of London
crumbles away like a Stilton cheese. Will anv
one be so kind as to inform me how I can preserve
Cairo. KlLLIGREW.
h of y°ur readers ^11 me
what the word Binstead is derived ? It is the
name of two parishes in Hampshire, one adjoining
Me, Isle of Wight, the other near Alton, and
alL wb!S m ? ,Bins Wood> Bins Cottage/Bin-
stead Wyck, and formerly Bins Pond, referred to
in White's * Selborne.' The church is early Norman.
There is also Binstead in Sussex, Binton in War-
wickshire, and many names, like Banstead and Ban-
bury, with the prefix ban. The suffix stead is in-
telligible ; but even if guessing was permitted, which
Prof. Skeat forbids, I should be at a loss, for hops
were only introduced by Henry VIII., so that even
if they were grown in all the parishes, which they
are not, I see no connexion with German Benne, a
basket in which they are collected, or the A.-S.
binnt a manger, or beant the vegetable. Canon
Taylor mentions ban as a Gaelic word, meaning a
white river, bub there is no river in any of the
parishes referred to, except Binton on the Avon.
Binstead, at Alton, and Banstead are both on the
chalk. Can the colour of the ground have given
the name ? R. F. WILLIAMS.
J. CALLOW.— I shall feel obliged for any infor-
mation regarding J. Callow, artist, as to his
nationality, school, &c. I believe he worked
about 1840-1860. I have a very fine sea-piece in
oils, 3 ft. by 4 ft., by him. Was he a water-colour
artist? OWEN WILLIAMS.
Consult Mr. Gravea's ' Dictionary of Artists ' and the
'Diet. Nat. Biog.,' wherein a list appears.]
PHILLIPS- JUDD FAMILY. — I should be glad to
know the connecting link between John Phillips,
of Stanstead and Farnham, co. Essex, born about
1727, and his descendant, John Phillips- Judd, of
Rickling, co. Essex, who died 1836, with dates.
PEROT.
NURSERY RHYME.— I should be much obliged
if you could let me know the date of origin, and,
if possible, the author of an old nursery rhyme, the
first line of which is : —
Ten men lived in a pen.
RHYMER.
ANTHONY THOMPSON, DEAN OP RAPHOE. — I
should feel much obliged for information as to
place of death, &c., October, 1757, of Anthony
Thompson, Dean of Raphoe. His history was
peculiar: British Resident at Paris, 1741-4, in
which latter year he was ordained and appointed
dean, apparently under the patronage of the Duke
of Newcastle. WALTER C. PEPYS.
61, Porchester Terrace, W.
' LA CHANSON DE ROLAND ' is said to have
been sung on the battlefield of Senlac by the
Norman troops. Since 27 Sept., 1886, when I
saw the Bayeux tapestry, I believe the Thoroldus
depicted and named thereon by Queen Matilda was
the important minstrel who in the song, as we
know it, is mentioned as declining it. Am I right ?
PALAMKDES.
BEN JONSON. — In my copy of Langbaine's
' Account of the English Dramatick Poets,' 1691,
formerly in the possession of Edward Mangin,
. XI. MAI 8, '97.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
369
Balliol College, Oxon, there is a note, apparently in
his handwriting : —
" Not long ago B. Johngon'a grave was opened. His
skeleton, which was very short, was found with the head
down and heels up, as if so buried. 1880."
Is there an account anywhere referring to the
opening of the grave ? A. COLLINGWOOD LEE.
\Valtham Abbey.
MOTTO IN GIBBON'S ' HISTORY/ — In the first
volume of the original edition of Gibbon there
appears on the title-page the quotation : —
"Jam provideo animo, velut qui, proximis littori vadis
inducti, mare pedibus ingrediuntur, quicquid progredior,
in vastiorem me altitudinem, ac velut profundum invehi ;
et crescere pene opus, quod prima quaeque perficiendo
minui videbatur."
Where is this taken from ?
Blackheath.
W. T. LYNN.
IRISHMEN AS COSTERS. — In my study of the
Elizabethan drama, I notice that where Irishmen
are introduced there is invariably some reference
to them as costermongers. In Ben Jonson's ' Irish
Masque ' we find : —
" By got, o' my conshence, tish ish he ! ant tou be
King Yambh, me name is Dennish, I sherve ti majesties
owne cashtermonger, be me trote ; and cry peepsh and
pomwatersh in ti mayesties shervice 'tis five year now."
Dekker, whose chief study was the slums of
London, introduces Bryan in ( The Honest
Whore/ pt. ii.
" In England, sir,— troth, I ever laugh when I think
on 't ; to see a whole nation should be marked i' th' fore-
head, as a man may say, with one iron : why, sir, there
all costermongers are Irishmen."
"Ob, that's to show their antiquity as coming from
Eve, who was an apple-wife, and they take after the
mother." — I. i.
In 'Old Fortunatus,' IV. ii., Andelocia and
Shadow are disguised as Irish costermongers. In
other plays there are similar references. Perhaps
some of your contributors who have studied the
migrations of the Milesian could tell me whether
Irishmen flocked to London in the brave days of
Elizabeth, and there adopted the coster's calling.
W. A. HENDERSON.
Dublin.
DUKES OP AQUITAINE AND NORMANDY AT THE
CORONATION OF GEORGE III. — Brady, 'Clavis
Calendaria,' vol. ii. p. 181, third edition, tells us
that these extinct dukes were represented, or
rather personated, by Sir W. Breton and Sir W.
Robinson, both belonging to the Privy Chamber,
on this occasion. Has this personating been con-
tinued on any of the succeeding coronations ?
E. LEATON-BLENKINSOPP.
REV. MOSES WILLIAMS, F.R.S.— This reverend
gentlemen was a native of Cellan, Cardiganshire.
He took an active part in the collation of Wootton's
edition of 'The Laws of Hywel Dda.' I am
informed that his noted Welsh library of books
and MSS. passed at his death to the Earl of Mac-
clesfield. Where are they now ? Have they ever
been catalogued ? !>• M. R.
ROBERT BROWNING'S MATERNAL ANCESTORS.
(8W S. xi. 261.)
This article, to which the signature of DANIEL
HIPWELL is affixed, should, according to precedent,
have been printed in small type, it having pre-
viously appeared in the Pall Mall Gazette of
28 December, 1896. The interesting information
it supplies was collected by Mr. A. H. Millar.
J. K,
CHAUCER AND VILLANI (8th S. xi. 205).—
Although I differ in one or two points from
MR. TOYNBEB in his conclusions regarding the
divergences in the two accounts of the story of
Count Ugolino as given by Dante and Chaucer
respectively, I agree with him that the
'Inferno' (canto xxxiii.) was not the English
poet's sole resource in dealing with the subject.
My reason for thinking the latter may have
followed Villani, however, differs entirely from
that put forward by MR. TOYNBBB, who I think
will have by this discovered that he is mistaken in
saying that there is nothing contained in Dante's
account concerning the " false suggestion" on the
part of Archbishop Roger. On the contrary, the
poet expressly makes Ugolino declare that by the
archbishop's treachery he came to his doom (cf.
canto xxxiii. 11. 14-18), " by effect of his malicious
thought."
Now, Giov. Villani, curiously enough, has
given us two distinct accounts of the tragedy in
chapters cxxi. and cxxviii. of his chronicle. In the
former of these he states that Ugolino had with him
in the tower his two sons and three grandsons
(observe Chaucer's "litel children three"). But
in the second version Villani forgot this, and
wrote: "due suoi figliuoli, e due figlmol
Conte Guelfo suo figliuolo, siccome addietro
facemmo menzione." Chaucer makes no allusion
to the adults, the children alone interesting
him. It is noteworthy, therefore, that Vi
and Chaucer both make the same trifling error.
Benvenuto da Imola very closely copies Villani,
using some of his actual phrases ; but he does not
fall into what we may call the trap, and only
mentions two grandsons. Boccaccio's brief account
(' De Casibus Virorum ') gives no details. Dante
himself only refers to four individuals in all, besides
the father. , , . ,
But, reverting to the subject of the archbishop,
Villani was by no means the sole resource and
authority obtainable regarding that prelate s action
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in the affair of Count Ugolino. L' Anonimo Pisano
and Guido de Corvaria (both in Muratori, ' Sc.
R. I.,' xxiv. 651, 652, 655, 694) have left us
detailed accounts, of which Villani might have
availed himself. The identification, in the former
of these accounts, of the relations of the various
victims may be of interest to quote here : " Conte
Ugolino, e il Conte Gad do, e Uguccione, suoi fig-
liuoli, e Nino (dicto Brigata) figliuolo del Conte
Guelfo, e Anselmuccio, figliuolo del Conte Lotto,
suoi nipoti, ch' erano in pregione in della torre de'
Gualandi da sette vie, erano in distretta di man-
giare e di bere," &c. Dante would appear to
group them rather differently ; but I will not
linger over this matter.
Turning to another point, it is certainly remark-
able that while Chaucer in relating the story of
Zenobia directly refers the reader to Petrarch,
" my maister," as his authority on that unfortunate
queen, he does not say a word about Boccaccio,
whose 'De Claris Mulieribus' he is manifestly
drawing upon. Modern Italian critics are disposed
to dwell unpleasantly upon this matter against the
English poet.
Now, here again we have a literary curiosity.
Boccaccio wrote two accounts of Zenobia — the
one above referred to, and another contained in
'De Casibus Virorum Illustrium.' Chaucer's
* Zenobia' is, in fact, a direct traduction of the
former of these, and this makes it certain that our
poet slipped when he wrote "Petrark" instead
of ' Boccace." Further, it is demonstrable that,
although Chaucer borrows from Boccaccio the
identical title * De Casibus Virorum Illustrium '
wherewith to head these and other narratives related
by the Monk, he is actually utilizing another of
Boccaccio's Latin works, and not this one : and I do
not find even a trace of Petrarch, unless he could
have studied the latter poet's account of Hercules,
which I, for one, do not think he did.
ST. CLAIR BADDELEY.
Castle Hale, Painswick.
'DEAD BIDES SIR MORTEN OF FOGELSANG"
(8th S. xi. 308). — There is no meaning except
just that which N. K. himself mentions — as a
refrain. A short sentence briefly describing one
wraith or apparition is considered as an appro-
priate refrain for the verses of a poem describing
another at more length. And possibly the " dull
thud" (to use a favourite modern expression) of
the long, heavy syllables <{ Dead— rides " may be
supposed to add to the effect.
C. F. S. WARREN, M.A.
Longford, Coventry.
'RARELY" (8th S. x, 333, 366, 421, 518; xL
39, 173, 309). — It is not a common experience
to be assailed in these columns with offensive
epithets and phrases because one, forsooth, has
given expression to an honest conviction. But for
once the thing has happened, and F. H. has given
a lead which, let us fervently hope, will not be
followed. Directly or implicitly he advances
against an opponent the charge of being '"pre-
cipitate," " peremptory," " not endowed with a
moderate aptitude for grammatical speculation,"
" Inconsultus," a patron of "worse than buck-
ramed English," a " sciolist," a " grammaticule," a
" doctrinaire," a " dogmatizer," and of resembling
" foreigners in lack of appropriate sensibility."
This kind of onslaught has the promise and
potency of very serious issues. At this rate, no
reputation would be safe for a week, and philo-
sophical discussion would speedily degenerate into
mere abuse. Surely a point in syntax may be
raised and considered without heat. An opinion
may be questioned, but its advocate need not
necessarily be hooted and pelted with mud. A
man is unquestionably entitled to hold that his
critic misunderstands him, and even to assert that
the criticism offered is of no help whatever
towards the elucidation of the matter in dispute,
without thereby exposing himself to a process of
unlimited assault and battery. By all means let
there be fair discussion and no favour, but primarily
it ought to be understood that the method is to be
absolutely fair. Now to call nicknames is surely
in a literary disputant unfair and undignified,
besides being totally irrelevant. Further, it is an
exceeding waste of energy in a case like the present,
for to " tear a passion to tatters " cannot possibly
appeal to readers of these pages. In future, there-
fore, it is to be hoped that contributors to * N. & Q.'
will not let the sun go down upon their wrath, and
that their MSS. will be produced after the orb
has again found them in an equable and placid
spirit.
F. H. holds that " It is rarely that one of them
emerges " is correct syntax, and advances the pro-
position that it is equivalent to the locution, " It
is rarely the case that one of them emerges." Well,
he is perfectly entitled to hold his opinion and to
offer his gloss, while another is equally justified in
expressing the view that each sentence should be
complete in itself and should prompt as little as
possible what F. H. calls " grammatical specula-
tion." " It is rarely the case," &c., is good Eng-
lish, because "rarely" is properly used as an
adverb and has nothing whatever to do with a
substantive clause. Of course, a purist might hold
that even here the meaning is "The case that one of
them emerges is rare." But it is quite a different
matter with " It is rarely that one of them emerges,"
because here, as has been already said, the pronoun
is not the subject, and the adjective, and not the
adverb, is the form needed by the syntax. That
has been the contention from the beginning, and
no quotations from tjie Man of Uz, or any other
man or source, will alter the fact. Be it here also
set down, not in malice bat with the utmost gravity
8*8. XI. MATS, W.]'
NOTES AND QUERIES.
371
and respect, that the so-called analogues — *f left-
handed " or other —advanced by F. H. in illustra-
tion of his thesis, are hardly, if at all, to the pur-
pose. Further, it has to be added that he chafes
overmuch at the proposal to invert a sentence whose
noun-clause follows the verb "to be." Perhaps
he will not take it amiss if the process is explained
to him in reference to a sentence of his own. " ' It
is here that he lives,' " quoth he, " cannot be inte-
grated into * It is here the case that he lives.' " Now,
if one may be allowed to say so, F. H. is astray in this
investigation. The sentence is quite good, and is
convertible in his despite, for it readily takes the
form " That he lives here is the case." That is a
passable analogue to the sentence despised by this
censor, "That one of them emerges is rare," or, if
he prefers it, " is a rare case." And now, finally,
if it is worth while to carry this further, it would
be exceedingly interesting to hear from F. H. why
he describes " It is rare that one of them emerges "
as "a sentence that can be analyzed only to the
effect of producing incongruity which trenches
hard on nonsense." THOMAS BATNE.
Helensburgh, N.B.
Surely much paper and ink might have been
saved had "the original objector71 considered that
the verb " is," in his crucial sentence, " It is rarely
that," is used only in a slipshod and careless manner
for "happens." Substitute " happens " for "is,"
and all difficulty ceases. E. WALFORD.
Ventnor.
It is worth noting that, in a letter to Mrs.
Thrale, dated I May, 1780, Dr. Johnson wrote :
" It is very rarely that an author is hurt by his
criticks." F. H.
Marlesford.
EAGLES CAPTURED AT WATERLOO (8th S. xi. 27,
89, 194, 296).— The Sergeant Ewart who captured
one of the eagles at Waterloo came to the hamlet
of Davyhulme (which is adjacent to the village in
which I reside), to spend the remaining portion of
his eventful life. He seems to have been made of
the right kind of material for heroes. Not given
to much talking in after life of the exploit concern-
ing which the whole British nation was in raptures,
and which raised him from sergeant to com-
missioned officer and also to the possession of
lOOi. for life, he nevertheless did sometimes relate
the story of his adventures to a few of his acquaint-
ances. The record of one of these brief recitals
has been transferred to a volume (No. 5) of the
Manchester Literary Club, from which I obtain
what is now written. Ewart only spoke of two
eagles. In the contest, he says, "it was in the
first charge that I took the eagle from the enemy.
The Frenchman and I had a hard contest for it.
He thrust for my groin ; I parried, and cut him
through the head." Ewart was soon attacked by,
this time, a Polish lancer, whose weapon he was
fortunate enough to turn aside, to be followed by
a gallant Frenchman, who, first firing his musket at
Ewart but missing him, attacked him with his
bayonet. General Ponsonby, who had witnessed
the scene, called out to Ewart, " My brave fellow,
take that to the rear ; you have done enough till
you get quit of it." Sergeant Ewart was promoted
in the following February to be ensign in the 3rd
Royal Veteran Battalion, in which he served
twenty-four years. On leaving the army he
resided at Tranmere, removed to I; 1 version, then
to Salford, anchoring eventually in a country
cottage in Davyhulme. Ewart died 23 March,
1846, aged seventy-seven, and is buried in the
graveyard attached to the New Jerusalem Temple,
Salford. In addition to the pictures already men-
tioned, Miss Thompson has made a portrait study
of Ewart, who is represented as having lost hia
busby, in her painting of the ' Scots Greys at
Waterloo.' RICHARD LAWSON,
Urmaton.
SCOTT'S * OLD MORTALITY ' (8th S. xi. 169, 255,
297). — I am obliged to W. S. for pointing out that
Robert Paterson died at Bankend. I was, not
unnaturally, misled by the fact that "Bankhill,
near Lockerby," is the locality named in the text
of the introduction to the novel, and that Bankhill
is alluded to afterwards, in the same connexion, in
three other places. A note, added at the very end
of the introduction, three pages further on, in-
dicating that Scott's informant was in error as to
the locality, had escaped me. From internal
evidence, it would seem that the confusion in the
name of the place must be traced to Robert Pater-
son's son, who, in his seventieth year, supplied the
particulars of "Old Mortality" to Sir Walter Scott's
friend, for the "Memorandum of the Funeral
Charges of Robert Paterson, who dyed at Bank-
hill [sic] on the 14th day of February, 1801," is
stated to be "authenticated by the son of the
deceased." E. G. CLAYTON.
Richmond, Surrey.
"FIGHTING LIKE DEVILS FOR CONCILIATION"
(8th S. x. 273, 340, 404 ; xi. 13, 255).— I see adver-
tised a new edition of Lever's novels, edited by his
daughter. Is it annotated ; and, if so, is there a
note to the passage in ' Harry Lorrequer ' where
these words are quoted as to Lever's responsi-
bility for them ? If not, it would be interesting if
MR. HOPE gave some reason for his belief, not that
Lever wrote ballads, but that he wrote the ballad
in question. Mickey Free's lament stands on a
totally different footing. Mickey Free being Lever's
creation, his lament comes to us with as strong an
assertion of authorship as could well be made. The
reference in ' Harry Lorrequer ' to a ballad said to
be popular at the time of the incidents narrated
obviously presents no such claim, while the fact
referred to is undisputed, the ballad having been
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
[8"» 8. XI. MAY 8, '97.
heard by Lady Morgan some years before ' Harry
Lonvquer' was written.
The comparison which MR. HOPE seems to
invite by displaying the lament at full is incon-
clusive proof of authorship. In the verse of the
ballad we have quick observation, unforced fun, and
spontaneous humour of peculiarly Irish kind. In
the lament we have alliteration, antithesis, laboured
conceits, and ingenious rhyming — tno ingenious,
indeed, for, by conceding that the e in equal shall
rhyme to the a in ache well, we get two words of
practically the same sound. Think of hearing the
two sung for the first time. The lament might
strike us as clever, but would scarcely touch our
feelings. The ballad would give us laughter and
smiles and food for thought. Lever could give us
all these, and I should be glad to know that he
wrote that ballad. KILLIQREW.
Cairo.
SIR MICHAEL COSTA (8ta S. xi. 129, 211, 239,
252, 317).— It is proved by my friend MR. W. H.
CUMMINGS that Costa gave his age as thirty-nine
in 1847. On the other hand, I prove by his own
handwriting that be gave me the date of his birth
as 1810. There is no more foun tain-head i ness
about one statement than about the other. When
a fountain -bead makes two separate statements
totally contradictory of each other, it seems to me
that the world may believe either or neither. This
being so, it remains exceedingly likely that Pou-
gin's date (1807) may be the true one, after all.
Nothing but a search in the Neapolitan registers —
if such exist — will ever settle this point quite
satisfactorily.
I have mentioned before that Costa's names can-
not have been originally Michael Andrew Agnus.
No Italian was ever christened Michael or Andrew
or Agnus (why not Angus or Feargus at once ?).
The names Micbele Andrea Agnolo were probably
anglicized when Costa was naturalized in England.
JULIAN MARSHALL.
" To WALLOP" (8tb S. x. 397, 463).— Among those
who commonly use this, "a walloping beating" is
an extra good or excessive whipping, not neces-
sarily with a stick or whip. The winner in a
lads* fight has walloped the other one. An un-
reliable tale is a walloper, and anything big beyond
common— the big gooseberry, potatoes, cattle, and
so forth — is a walloper. THOS. KATCLIFPE.
Worksop.
I have heard this word very frequently in
London, as well as the verse which 0. 0. B.
quotes. It is a piece of childish slang, and bears
the meaning of "beat or thrash." The 'Slang
Dictionary ' has : —
" Wallop, to beat or thrash. John Gough Nichols
derives this word from an ancestor of the Earl of Porte-
mouth, one Sir John Wallop, Knight of the Garter, who
in King Henry VIII.'s time distinguished himself by
walloping the French; but it is more probably con-
nected with wheat, a livid swelling in the skin after a
blow."
Walloping also is quoted, with the meaning "a
beating or thrashing," with an adjectival sense
of " big or very large." Is there any connexion
between this and wapping or whopping — of large
size or great ? This is also given in the ' S. D.'
C. P. HALE.
As the foot-note says, the use of this word is not
by any means confined to the northern counties.
It is in frequent use in Glamorganshire and on
the west coast of England. The * Encyclopaedic
Dictionary ' states it is a doublet of gallop, from
A.-S. weallan, 0. Fris. walla, Low German wallen,
to boil ; and after giving as intransitive mean-
ings "to boil quickly," "to gallop," both marked
"Prov.," it gives as a transitive meaning "to
castigate," " to flog," but does not even hint how
it comes to mean that. D. M. R.
WTVILL (8th S. x. 336 ; xi. 37, 113, 191, 314).
— This is a name well known among the leading
county families of Yorkshire. The lineage is
shown at length in Burke's ' Landed Gentry ; (see
Wyvill of Constable Burton and Little Burton),
and several of its members have sat in Parliament
during the present century as M.P.s for York and
Richmond. E. WALFORD.
Ventnor.
AUTHOR AND SOURCE WANTED (8th S. xi. 289).
— These lines may be seen in Popham's ' Poemata
Selecta.' When the author's name is known it is
commonly appended in this selection ; but whether
it is so or not in this instance I have not a copy by
me to ascertain. ED. MARSHALL.
Not yet ascertained. See 8th S. iv. 89, 296.
F. ADAMS.
CUTTING OFF DAIRYMAIDS' HAIR (8th S. x. 495 ;
xi. 30). — May not this have been a reminiscence
of scalping? Guizot ('History of Civilization,'
London, Bogue, 1846, vol. i. p. 429) says : —
" The custom of scalping, or taking off the hair of
their enemies, so common among the Americans, was
also practised among the Germans. This is the
decalvare mentioned in the laws of the Visigoths ; the
capillos et cutem detrahere still in use among the Franks
towards the year 879, according to the annals of Fulda;
the hettinan of the Anglo-Saxons. &c." — Adelung,
4 Ancient History of the Germans,' 303.
THOMAS J. JEAKES,
Tower House, New Hampton, S.W.
A curious case of hostile hair cutting resulted in
litigation in 1791. It is reported from York,
15 October of that year : —
"A cause for cropping was tried last week at the
sessions at Barnsley, in Yorkshire, an action being
brought against Mr. Poole and his lady, of that place, by
Mr. Stagg, an attorney, for an assault. The charge lay
chiefly against Mra, Poole, as in an affray between Mr,
8"1 8. XI. MAT 8, '97.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
373
Stagg and her husband it appeared she had cut off the
tail of the former. The investigation was a continued
source of pleasantry to the Court, though a verdict was
given in favour of Mr. Stagg."
ST. SWITHIN.
'MALLY LEE' (8th S. x. 336 ; xi. 236).— The
song ' It was a' for our Rightfu' King' is given in
' The Songs of Scotland Chronologically Arranged,'
Bell & Daldy, n,d., p. 497, and is prefaced by the
following note ; —
"Ascribed to Capt. Ogilvie, a cadet of the house of
Inverquharity. He took part in the Battle of the
Boyne, in the service of King James, and accompanied
his royal master into France, being one of a hundred
gentlemen who voluntarily agreed to attend their King
in exile. He was killed in some engagement on the
Rhine."
The song consists of fire stanzas. The third stanza,
which is similar to the first stanza in 0. C. B.'s
communication, runs thus : —
He turn'd him right an' round about,
Upon the Irish shore,
And ga'e hia bridle reins a shake
With, " Adieu for evermore, my dear,"
With, " Adieu for evermore."
Another version, containing some verbal variations,
is given in the notes to Scott's * Rokeby,' p. 538
(Scott's * Poetical Works/ Globe edition).
F. C. BIRKBECK TERRY.
LONDON TOPOGRAPHY : No. 37, LEICESTER
SQUARE (8th S. xi. 225).— According to J. T.
Smith, who was steeped in the artistic traditions
of the eighteenth century, the house of Mrs. King,
who was murdered by Gardelle, was No. 36, on
the south side of Leicester Fields (' Nollekens and
his Times,' ed. 1829, ii. 214). MR. HEBB'S state-
ment that No. 37 was situate on the north side of
the square must be a slip of the pen. Tom Taylor
(' Leicester Square,' p. 493) says the murder took
place at No. 37 ; but Smith, who was acquainted
with many members of Gardelle's set, must be
adjudged the better authority on this point. There
is a long and circumstantial account of Gardelle
and the murder in the Gent. Mag., xxxi. 171-178,
but no contemporary report that I have seen
specifies the number of the house, which was pro-
bably unnumbered at the time. If Horwood's
map is referred to, it will be seen that No. 36,
during the last century, was one of the two centre
houses on the south side of the square.
According to the best authorities, the sketch of
Theodore Gardelle which faces p. 172 of Ireland's
'Graphic Illustrations,' i., was made by Richards,
and only " touch'd on " by Hogarth. Is it known
where the original pen-and-ink sketch is ?
W. F. PRIDEAUX.
Kingsland, Shrewsbury.
THE DUTCH SCOTS BRIGADE (8th S. x. 413,
485). — I regret I cannot, from the note-book
written by his son, give information in answer to
Lord Lyon King at Arms as to Duncan Robertson
of Strowan having been an officer in the brigade
after his flight from Scotland in 1753. Neither
can I state the full name of his son Oolyear. In
the list of Strowan's papers there is the following
entry : " List of the Officers of Colyears Regiment
in Sept. 1727 and of Cunninghames in 1732.'
This probably refers to the Colyear who sub-
sequently became field-marshal. Strowan was the
ancestor of two who were distinguished in the
world of letters, his eldest daughter Margaret
being the mother of the unrivalled song writer
Caroline Oliphant, Baroness Nairn, while his great
grandson was that prince of preachers the Rev.
Frederick Robertson, of Brighton.
The following are extracts from the note-book
referred to. They contain the disbursements of
one of the sons, Alexander or Oolyear, in connexion
with his company. Unfortunately the year is not
given. The money appears to be in Dutch guilders.
July 20 —Supper giv'n to Capt. S who wrote to Major
at the C >urt of N , 400.
Travelling charges to Serg' M when he went to
Bois le due to procure his sons discharge, 690.
Aug. 27.— Travelling charges to Sergt M who
went a second time to Bois le due for his son, 2 12 0.
Epaulette for the Sergt, 700.
To M* I. Levy, £ p cent for two Bills on Rotterdam
one of 300 guilders & one of 500, 600.
Big coat to the Sergt, 800.
Sept. 5.— A Wallat, 1 2 0.
Sent to B for the Discharge, 84 12 0.
Carriage of the Money & Letter, 0 15 0.
Hat, 3 10 0.
Cockade, 0 10 0.
Sword belt for Mackay, 220.
Half boots for Mackay, 3 12 0.
6.— Toll and Passage of Rivers from Nymegen to
Venlo, 1 19 0.
Dinner and afternoon refreshm. for myself & 2 men,
280.
7.— Supper Lodging & Breakfast at Venlo for myself
& two men, 440
Coach from Venlo to Wyckradt, 16 0 0.
Horse for Mackay, 3 10 0.
Drink money, 040.
Barber, 050.
8._To old Mackay in leaving him at Nymegen, 540.
To young Mackay at Nymegen, 2 12 0.
Gave Mr A Macaulay at Nymegen to pay Van der
Hagen at Bergen-op-Zoom, 70 0 0.
To Taylor Brownley at Nymegen for making a suit of
regimentals to W. Mackay furnishing the Scarlet, Velvet,
white cloth Lining &c, 42 5 4.
To Sec' Mackny 10 Rixd, 26 0 0.
11.— To Secr Mackay again, 124 0 0.
Drink money to Count Wickradts servants, 7 16 0
Lost at cards to the Countess, 4 15 0
To Secr Mackay, 36 0 0.
Bill at Wyckradt for one dinner and six suppers for
lodging to two gentlemen, for lodging & maintenance to
two men during four days & to one man during six days,
17 5 0.
Drink money half a crown, 184.
A Bottle of Wine extr to the Secretary, 0 10 0.
Chaise from Wyckradt to Venlo, 700.
Supper & Lodging at Venlo for two Gentlemen & a,
Serv., 4 10 0.
374
NOTES AND QUERIES.
XL MAY 8, '97.
Drinkmoney to the Serv'*, 100.
Chaise from Venlo to Nymegen, 14 10 0.
Drink money to the Coachmen, 140.
Dinner at Bucksmeer, 820.
Given out by John Cameron for Tolls, Ferry : Coffee,
Drams, Barber &c, 3 12 0.
Gave to M* Douglas when he went to Wyckradt,
67 13 0.
Oct. 28.— Gave old Mackay on his setting out the
second time including the price of an old regimental,
69 16 0.
Nov. 10.— Monday sent out to Sergt William Mackay
for himself and two men 19 days pay, 15 8 0.
Paid my Chaise from Nymegen to Venlo hir'd the 6th
of September including first passage money, 14 12 0.
A Spadroon for old Mackay not marked in the proper
place, 300.
23.— To old Mackay for the mens fraught &°, 10 8 0.
A Spadroon for young Mack7, 350.
For Wageners Listing money, deducing a Rixdollar for
redeeming hig baggage, 7 16 0.
To M* Levi for the exchange of two bills one of two
hundred & one of three hundred guilders, 3 15 0.
Sent to the Secretary of Wyckradt a hundred guilders,
100 0 0.
To Altenhauser'g father for expenses to himself his
son & another man betwixt Wyckradt & this besides his
own expenses here and in returning which the Secretary
of Wyckradt engag'd to pay five ducats, 26 5 0.
To Smith for Buttons to Morgan's regimental, 2 15 0.
To old Mackay, once upon his being ordered out of
town 4 B D & the rest when he set out for Britain.
230 0.
Total, 879 1 0.
A. G. REID.
Auchterarder.
MEDALS TOR THE BATTLE OF THE NILE (8th S.
x. 376, 466 ; xi. 178). — I have a copper medal
exactly as described by MB. THOMPSON at the last
reference. The inscription round the edge reads :
* From Alexr Davison, Esqre, St. James's Square,
as a tribute of regard." Are these medals rare ;
and what is approximately the value ?
J. E. HORRIGAN.
Langholme, Oxford.
VERS£" (8» S. xi. 46, 172).— The
( Encyclopaedic Dictionary* gives the following
quotations of the word in the sense of reversed ;
turned backwards : —
• ' But the matters being turned arsye versye, they haue
the fruicion of those pleasures that shall neuer decaye."
— ' Udall : James,' c. 5.
" Ar severs ie, preposterously, perversely, without
order." — ' Glossog. Nor.'
Can any reader turn up the passages ? I fail to
know what " James, c. 5," stands for, or " Glossog.
Nor.'1 Is it not strange neither this dictionary nor
Murray's gives any reference to its use as a spell
or incantation? Murray's gives, under "Arsy
Versy," numerous quotations of the use of the
word in the sense of " backside foremost, turned
upside down, contrary," &c. D. M. K.
Ant-verse, here pronounced arsy-varsy, is a
common phrase, thus explained ip the 1877 reprint
of N. UdalPs translation of the ' Apophthegmes of
Erasmus1: " Arsee versee, the tail at top, reversed,
clean contrary, quite the opposite." It occurs
thrice in the * Apophthegmes,' viz., on ff. 6, 88,
and 339 of the 1542 edition. See also 'Para-
phrase of Erasmus,' 1548. " But the matter was
suddenly turned in & out clene arsee wrsee.'' — Luke,
f. 129, verso. B. K.
Boston, Lincolnshire.
The word used by Udall in the passage quoted
at the last reference is a different one altogether.
Minsheu gives it a place in his dictionary : —
" Arseuersie, G. a revers, a rebours. I. a rinverso, &
risiyerecio, a rovescio, alia inversa. H. al reves, al con-
trario. L. ad invereum, praapostere, perverse controver*
sim," &c.
It occurs also in Bailey, and in Halliwell, who
cites several authorities for its use in good English.
It still survives in dialect, and I have frequently
heard it as a vulgar substitute for vice versti, of
which I have always supposed it to be a corruption.
C. 0. B.
BISHOPS' WIGS (8th S. xi. 104, 174, 251, 270).
— If I may trust a distant memory, there is a brass
of Bishop Monk, of Gloucester, who died in 1856,
in the north aisle of the choir of Westminster
Abbey, of which church he was canon, representing
him in an episcopal wig. Perhaps, however, this
does not prove my case. The wig was often worn
by schoolmasters, as by Charles Lawson, M.A., a
layman, high master of Manchester School for
forty-three years, who died in 1807, and by Dr.
Samuel Parr, who died in 1825. The effigy of
Henry Bathurst, Bishop of Norwich, who died in
1834, in the south transept of Norwich Cathedral,
represents him wearing a wig, and that of Arch-
bishop Harcourt, who died in 1847, in York
Minster, represents him wearing a wig, as does a
replica of it in Caen stone in the Harcourt aisle in
Stanton Harcourt Church. The usual ordinary
dress of a bishop or dean in the early part of this
century seems to have been the wig and apron
cassock. Dr. Vincent, Dean of Westminster, who
died in 1815, in the fine portrait by William Owen,
which has been finely engraved, wears such a dress.
JOHN PICKFORD, M.A.
Newbourne Rectory, Woodbridge.
In the University Library at Durham we have
a portrait in oils, a marble bust, and two engraved
portraits of Dr. Koutb, in all of which he is repre-
sented in his wig. We have also one of his actual
wigs, and a great heavy trencher cap ; these were
presented by the Kev. James Barmby, B.D. (Hon.
D.D. Dunelm), sometime Fellow of Magdalen
College, Oxford. J. T. F.
Winter-ton, Doncaster.
Now that the subject is on, it may be worth
recalling, in passing, that Thackeray, in 1'he
Newcomes ' (chap, xiii.), refers to the,
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by the bench of bishops of its wigs (that insane
decoration), as an accomplished fact, and is pleased
to make facetious, if hardly respectful, comparisons
between the box and the bench, returning to the
charge in chap. xiv. H. E. M.
St. Petersburg.
HOLLY MEADOWS (8th S. i. 431, 462 ; xi. 304).
— If we are to believe Sir Herbert Maxwell,
quoted by MR. ADDY at the last reference, holly
trees have the intelligence to arm themselves with
spines on the leaves of their lower branches, to
repel browsing cattle, like a regiment of infantry
meeting a charge of cavalry with fixed bayonets ;
while the leaves of the upper branches, being
beyond the reach of attack, remain unarmed !
Unless the holly trees in this northern region,
being at a lower stage of " evolution," have not
yet attained to intelligent life, I think I am safe in
saying that all new holly leaves, whether on lower
or higher branches, are " as smooth as those on a
camellia," and that all, wherever situated, in the
course of time develope spines.
E. M. SPBNCE, M.A.
Manse of Arbuthnott, N.B.
This reminds me I never but once saw an
animal feeding on holly. It was in the January
of 1895, just after the heavy fall of snow that
happened in the beginning of that month, and
near Aston, in Shropshire, while walking from
Clun to the nearest railway station. A cow in a
field by the wayside was browsing on a holly-
tree growing in the hedge there. I stopped to
look at the, to me, unusual sight, and gazed in
wonder at the apparent relish with which she tore
off and crunched between her teeth the tough and
prickly provender. Leaves, berries, stalk, and
everything were gathered in by her tongue and
ground up by her powerful maxillary arrangements.
A man I mentioned this to afterwards said it was
a very unusual thing to see. PEDESTRIAN.
' Hagge is the Icelandic hagi, a pasture."
Far be it from me to dispute this. But to me it
reads like a coppice-land rather than a pasture-
land word. Years ago I lived in the south of
Scotland, in a coppice country. The coppices
were let to Englishmen (oddly enough), who
turned the brushwood to all sorts of uses. They
made charcoal, pill boxes, spale baskets,
spade handles, pyroligneous acid, &c. Now
the piece of land cleared by the coppice tenant
in a year was such a year's "hag." A "hag
of hollin " would convey to me this mean-
ing, a thicket of holly which the tenant had the
right to cut. I always took " hag " to be cognate
with " hack." H. J. MOULB.
Dorchester.
FIT = FOUGHT (8th S. xi. 264).— Fit, used as the
past tense of fought, is not yet obsolete in England.
It is to be heard in Cumberland and Lincoln-
shire, and, I believe, in Northamptonshire and
Leicestershire. Probably other counties use the
word. F. 0. BIRKBECK TERRY.
I have heard this many times in different parts
of England, and a friend tells me (but without
giving the exact reference) that it occurs in
Anderson's ' Cumberland Ballads.' C. C. B.
This word is in constant use in Northampton-
shire. It is included in both Miss Baker's and
Sternberg's glossaries of Northamptonshire words.
Both writers also refer to Evans's 'Leicester-
shire Words,' &c. , as containing it. Miss Baker
describes it as " the old preterite of the verb to
fight." JOHN T. PAGE.
West Haddon, Northamptonshire.
TOMB OF MAHMOOD OP GHUZNEE (8tto S. x.
175, 259).— An article, 'The Temple of Somnath,'
Asiatic Journal, N.S., vol. xl, January- April,
1843, pp. 167-174, concludes thus :—
"We have intimated our disbelief in the tradition
which has identified the doors of M ah mood's tomb at
Ghuztii with the portals of the temple of Somnath. It
is somewhat remarkable that the iron mace of the con-
queror, which was doubtless deposited in the mausoleum,
should have disappeared, and that a wooden door should
have defied the tooth of time and the mischief of man
for eight hundred years. It would seem that the mace
was there prior to the arrival of the British. Major
Hough, ' Narrative of Operations,' &c., p. 228, says :
' On a tombstone of white marble lies the mace of Mali-
mood, of such weight, it is said (for 1 saw it not), that
few men can wield it.' Mr. Atkinson, who likewise
visited this tomb, says : ' The mace of the couqueror was
not to be found; it was whispered that it had been
secreted by the moollab.0, under the apprehension that
it might be carried off during the presence of the army
at Ghuzni ; but, if so, it has not yet been restored. It
was described to me as an iron bar, with an iron globe
at the end, studded with sharp angular points, and of
great weight.' The door he describes as massive, in
panels, carved, and well put together : two folds,
hinged, form one half of the door, which seems to be
about eight feet wide by fourteen feet high. The anxiety
of the late Bunjeet Sing to possess this door, and the
reluctance of the late Shah Shooja to part with it (the
former having proposed and the latter having refused a
stipulation in the treaty between them for its transfer),
may, perhaps, lend some countenance to the tradition of
its Hindu origin. If it should prove that the Governor-
General of India has incurred so heavy a load of
reproach for restoring in a solemn manner to a temple
which has ceased to exist a door which never belonged
to it, his fate is a singular one, and he should, perhaps,
be exempted from censure in consideration of the
ridicule which attaches to the affair."
THOMAS J. JEAKES.
"FEER AND FLET" (8th S. x. 76, 166, 339,
422 ; xi. 17, 113, 175, 235).— After reading MR.
MAYHEW'S note I feel I was too hasty in adopting
the statement of Aubrey's editor that the mean-
ing of fleet in the 'Lyke Wake Dirge' was water.
The void fleet can, I think, only apply to running
or flowing water, and this would hardly be met
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[8* S. XI. MAY 8, '97.
with inside a house. In the phrase "fire and
fleet " it must, as shown by Ducange, be equiva-
lent to the A.-S. fldt or flet, a dwelling, house,
chamber, bed. The meaning of the first stanzi
of the * Dirge/ which I quoted in my former note,
must be that on the one night on which the
lyJce or corpse was waked, it would receive the
comforts of firing, house-room, and candle-light,
but that as soon as it passed away from its tem-
poral dwelling, it would have to encounter the
terrors of Wbinny-muir, the Brig o' Dread, and
Purgatory fire. I see that Mr. Andrew Lang, in
his pretty little ' Collection of Ballads,' just pub-
lished by Messrs. Chapman & Hall, retains — as I
think incorrectly — Scott's old reading of " fire and
sleet,"
I think the meaning of fere in fere-kous
is probably passage, and the building may have
been either a ferry-house or a house for the
accommodation of passengers or wayfarers in
general. W. F. PRIDBADX.
Kingaland, Shrewsbury.
m " SKATES " : " SCATCHES » (8W S. xi. 305).— The
history of these words had already been traced at
some length in my ' Folk-Etymology,' 1883, p. 604.
MR. MAYHEW has apparently failed to notice that
the name for the thing originated in the fact that
the primitive skate, as I there point out, was
merely the shank-bone (Low Ger. schake) of some
animal tied under the foot. See also Tylor,
* Anthropology,' p. 307. A pair of these bone
skates are in the British Museum, and are
delineated in Chambers's 'Book of Days,' i. 138.
Scnche, grallns (i.&, a stilt), occurs in Levins,
'Manipulus,' 1670, p. 5 (E.E.T.S.). So late as
1711 Swift speaks of skates as not generally
known (' Journal to Stella,' 31 Jan.).
A. SMTTHE PALMER, D.D.
South Woodford.
THE FIRST TWENTY BRITISH STEAMERS (8th S
xi. 288). — In the Monthly Chronicle of North
Country Lore and Legend, 1891, p. 306, is an
article on 'The First Tyne Steamboat,' which
begins as follows : —
" Built on the banks of the Tyne, the first steamboat
that carried on passenger traffic in English waters was
launched from the South Shore, Gateshead, on Monday,
21 February. 1814, a fortnight after the breaking up of
the Great Frost; ar.d on Thursday, 19 May, the Tyne
Packet, as Sykes is faithful to record, began to run as a
passenger boat between Newcastle and Shields. Being
Ascension Day, it joined the [municipal] procession of
barge?, and was a great novelty. * It was the principal
novelty of the day,' says the Newcastle Chronicle on the
ensuing Saturday, 'greatly outstripping' the corporate
procession ' by the rapidity of its motion.' Three weeks
afterwards the Chronicle had a second paragraph : ' The
Tyne Steam Packet has now commenced its regular
voyages between Newcastle and Shields. Previous to
this, A fete was held in it on Friday last in honour of
his Majesty's birthday, when a number of gentlemen
proceeded in it to Shields, where the party was regaled
an excellent dinner on board.' There were trips in
the Race Week [that year] from day to day, ending
25 June. ' Best cabin, Is. ; second cabin, 60?.' Steam-
boat speculation subsequently set in ; rivals rose up
alongside the primitive paddles; and the pioneer packet,
making itself known from among the rest, appears in
November, 1815, with the distinctive name of the Per-
severance, having (as we are told) on the 9th of that
morith left Shields in the afternoon, ' and arrived at
Newcastle in two hours, against a very strong gale of
wind and freeh in the river.' The Tyne waa the first of
the rivers of England to begin passenger traffic by steam.
Other waters in Britain, however, had led the way. The
Comet was plying on the Clyde in 1812," &c.
Your correspondent will find much more useful
information on the subject in the same article, and
in <N. & Q.,' 2nd S. iv. ; 4th S. xi. ; 6th S. iv.
RICH. WELFORD.
EED, WHITE, BLUE (8th S. x. 294 ; xi. 296).-
A perusal of the song would, I should say, con-
firm the view taken by KILLIGREW and satisfy D.
The tone is distinctly Chauvinistic or (Anglice),
according to the slang phrase until recently in
vogue, *' Jingoish," and I am no admirer of the
panegyric cry, " Our noble selves !" except for a
particular object and on a special occasion : —
THE RED, WHITE, AND BLUB.
Britannia, the pride of the ocean,
The home of the brave and the free,
The shrine of each patriot's devotion,
The world pays a homage to thee ;
At thy mandate the nations assemble
To Liberty's cause ever true,
And thy banners make tyranny tremble,
When borne by the red, white and blue !
When war spread its wide desolation
And threatened the world to deform,
The ark of our freedom's foundation,
Britannia rode safe through the storm :
Her mantle of vict'ry spread o'er her,
So bravely she bore up her crew,
While her flag floated proudly before her,
The boast of the red, white, and blue !
Then the wine cup — the wine-cup — bring hither,
And fill it full up to the brim,
May the wreath Nelson won never wither,
Nor the star of his glory grow dim;
May the service, united, ne'er sever
But both to their colours prove true,
Here 'a the Army and Navy for ever !
Three cheers for the red, white, and blue !
NEMO.
JOHN CLAYTON (8th S. xi. 308). — Edward
Stephens was best known before Queen Anne's
time. He was originally a barrister, and began,
seemingly about 1670, by procuring in the country
parish of his residence a monthly and then
a weekly Holy Communion, which he says " was
rarely then anywhere else in the nation above once
or twice, or thrice at most, in the year." He then
removed to London, and went on by bringing
together a band of daily communicants, with a
priest whom he says he had " brought off from the
Dissenters," and here they used a Liturgy of his
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
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own composition. After a while their chaplain
was laid by, as it seems, through ill health ; and
Stephens then obtained Holy Orders himself, and
continued the service for some years longer. Why
it ceased I know not ; but it had ceased when
he published his Liturgy in 1696. This was
repu Wished in Hall's 'Fraginenta Liturgica,' 1848,
vol. ii., and reference may be made to the preface
to that work, and to the Christian Remembrancer,
xxviii. 207. His society is also mentioned in the
Athenian Oracle, ii. 407.
C. F. S. WARREN, M.A.
Longford, Coventry.
BLANCKENHAGEN (8tb S. xi. 247, 312). — Capt.
Blanckenhagen was killed at the battle of Seringi-
pitan, Amboyna, 1813. He was of Dutch descent,
and his wife and seven children were all drowned
in the wreck of an East Indiaman on their return
to England. There are two nieces, his only sur-
viving relatives, C. A. Blankenhagen and H. C.
Kettlewell. C. B. H. K.
HANWELL CHURCH (8tb S. xi. 228, 274).— A
small engraving of the church appears in the
Illustrated London News, 20 May, 1843. It is
there said to be "in the Early English" style ;
with no chancal, " the funds being very limited,"
and the burial-ground not admitting of further
encroachment. Worsley and Camberwell are two
other specimens of the early " Scott and Moff*tty "
style. EDWARD H. MARSHALL, M.A.
Hastings.
LAW STATIONER (8th S. xi. 24. 132).— -The note
contributed at the first reference gives the need-
ful correction of the statement made in the
* Century Dictionary ' as to the business of a law
stationer. The contributor's criticism of the refer-
ence, in that dictionary, to the term "engross" was
equally called for. It is true that when a will is
proved in the Court of Probate, the official copy,
sealed and issued by the court, has been engrossed
(i. e.i fairly written) on parchment. But it would
be quite an exceptional thing nowadays to write
on parchment an original will for signature by the
testator. Formerly, indeed, this was not un-
frequently done, when the only or the chief object
of the will was to dispose of real property, the
title to real properly devised being, as a matter of
law, evidenced by the will itself (and not by the
probate, as was the case in relation to personal
property), and it being, therefore, convenient that,
in such circumstances, the will itself should go
with the title deeds.
As to wills on parchment, I may mention that I
have a printed book of which the title-page is as
follows : " A True Copy of the last Will and Testa-
ment of her Grace Sarah, late Duchess Dowager of
Marlborough ; with the Codicil thereto annexed.
The second edition. London: Printed for M.
Cooper, at the Globe in Pater-noster-Row. 1750.
Price Is. Qd." The " In testimonium " clause, with
which the will concludes, is as follows : —
" In witness whereof I the said Sarah Duchess Dowager
of Marlborough, the testatrix, have to this my last will
and testament, contained in this and the seven preceding
skins of parchment, set my hand and seal (to wi') ray
hand to the bottom of each of the said seven preceding
skins, and my hand and seal to the last skin, where all
the said ekins are fixed together, the day and year first
above written. Sarah Marlborough.
The note of probate is as follows :—
"Proved at London, before the Worshipful John
Bettesworth, Doctor of Law, Master Keeper or Com-
missary of the Prerogative Court of Canterbury, on the
second day of November, 1744, by the oaths of the Right
Honourable Hugh Earl of Marchmont, Thomas Lord
Bishop of Oxford, Beversham Filmer, and James Stephens
the executors."
K. K. DEES.
Wallsend.
" PINASEED " (8th S. x. 212, 320, 402 ; xi. 36).
—Ma. THOS. RADCLIFFB, at the last reference,
remarks that "really and truly ' pinaseed ' is a
condensation of ' a pin to see it.' ' He advances
no argument in proof of such statement, for the
charge of a pin, mentioned by him, for looking at
the peepshow accounts only for the first syllable of
the word, which is unchallenged. MR. RADCLIFPE
gives " ter " four times as the Derbyshire pronun-
ciation of "to," so, according to such pronunciation,
we ought, on bis own showing, to have not
"pinaseed," but " pinterseed." What he means
by saying that "seed'1 is a pronunciation of
" saw " in the county of Derby, I do not know.
Seed is a weak preterite of see, and nothing more.
It is used in various parts of the country instead
of the strong and proper form saw.
That " seed " in the word under discussion is a
dialectal pronunciation of sight, as I remarked at
the second reference, admits, I believe, of no reason-
able doubt. At the third reference MR. JOHN T.
PAGE speaks of the "flower mosaic" as the
'sight," and quotes : —
Give me a pin to see my sight.
Furthermore, in Mr. J. Glough Robinson's ' Dialect
of Leeds,' 1862, pinasight is given as the name for
the " flower mosaic." ST. SWITHIN (x. 320) gives
the rhyme : —
See a pin and let it lie,
You 're sure to want one before you die.
I have usually heard the lines quoted without the
word "one," and with the object of inculcating
the necessity of being careful and thrifty in small
matters. F. C. BIRKBECK TERRY.
WOODEN PITCHERS (8th S. xi. 189, 292).— I am
very much obliged to MR. BAYNE and to MR.
BATHO for their kind and interesting replies.
MR. BAYNE'S " water stoups " are no doubt most
interesting relics of old-world Scotland ; but that
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
[8tn s. XI. MAY 8, '07.
they could be mistaken for jack-boots shows, I
think, that they must be more like black-jacks,
wine stoups, or wine flagons than the vessels I
specified. I particularly stated that they were not
straight-sided, but •* bellied " — that is, pear-shaped
— because I had in mind certain tall, churn-like
milk pitchers, figured by Miss M. M. Dowie in
her ' A Girl's Ride in the Carpathians/ with
which type I thought they might be confounded,
and of which type I suspect ME. BAYNE'S " water
stoups " to be. The utensil I mean is that which
MR. BAT HO (see Littre*) quite correctly specifies
as un broc — pear, or jug-shaped, coopered of oak
staves and iron hoops, furnished with an upright
spout or lip of sheet-iron, and an iron or wooden
jug-handle, and, like a cask, generally unpainted.
THOMAS J. JEAKES.
Tower House, New Hampton.
r The Leeds Mercury Weekly Supplement, 3 April,
contains on p. 10 an account of ' Norse Marriage
Customs/ by Mr. John Wager. Speaking of the
marriage feast, he remarks : —
" Dish after dish disappears, reappears, and vanishes
again, while meantime the serving swains hurry to and
fro with spouted wooden cans, long and narrow, under
their arm, striving to supply the still more insatiable
demand for strong ale."
F. C. BIRKBECK TERRY.
Wooden pitchers, made in shape not unlike a
large jug — by which name they were known in
Carmarthenshire — were plentiful thirty or forty
years ago. They were made by coopers, with
staves not unlike those used for barrels, but, of
course, differently turned. I saw them also often
in Cardiganshire thirty years ago ; but I never
heard an English name for them. I do not know
whether they are still used there. D. M. R.
NOBLEMEN'S DOOR-PLATES (8tt S. xi. 328).—
In * Walks in London,' by A. J. 0. Hare, 1878,
vol. ii. p. 88, a propos of Berkeley Square and the
neighbourhood, it is stated that the old aristocratic
door-plates "were once universal." The plate of
Lady Willoughby de Broke, in Hill Street, and
that of Lord Powis are mentioned, but not Lord
Warwick's. E. G. CLAYTON.
Richmond, Surrey.
Another noble lord whose name was on a brass
door-plate till recently was Lord Gage, who lived
in Whitehall Yard ; and, if my memory does not
deceive me, the same was the case with the late
Lord Darnley, who lived in Hill Street.
E. WALFORD.
Ventnor.
HOTHAM, OF DALTON (8tto S. xi. 347). —The
wife of the Rev. Charles Hotham, rector of Wigan,
ejected 1662, was Elizabeth, daughter of Stephen
Thompson, of Humbleton. She was buried at
Little Driffield, 29 April, 1685. To furnish a
pedigree of this family down to 1700 would be
what in commercial parlance is styled "a large
order." Your correspondent will, I think, find
all she requires in Mr. Joseph Foster's ' Yorkshire
Pedigrees,' vol. ii., "North and East Ridings,"
from which work the above information is extracted.
FRANCIS W. JACKSON, M.A.
Ebberston, Vicarage, York.
RELICS (8th S. xi. 67). — An explanation con-
cerning one of the relics — the pincushion — is to be
found in Hibbert- Ware's 'History of the Founda-
tions in Manchester,' vol. ii. p. 126. In the
copious illustrations to chap, xxv., which deals
largely with the events of 1745, the following
excerpt will be found : —
"But, independently of the Jacobite holydays, the
Tories, on every common occasion, boldly appeared in
the streets decked put in the Prince's livery, with plaid
waistcoats ; the ladies imitating them by wearing gowns
of the same Scottish hue and texture, while every pin-
cushion showed the initials of P. C. The Whigs, who
had long hesitated whether to tolerate such a display or
not, now meditated to put the whole dress and manners
of the town under the cognizance of a strict police.
This gave rise to some humorous recommendations to
the magistrates from Dr. Byrom; that a select com-
mittee be appointed who have given undeniable proofs
of an honest zeal by their regular attendance at bonfires,
prosecution of Down with the Rumpers, &c. The manu-
facture committee shall, from time to time, visit our
warehouses, inspect the goods, and severely punish such
persons as shall be found to have any which emblematic-
ally favour Popery or the Pretender ; such as your
plaided chequered gowns, &c., which virtually imply the
wearer's approbation of the Scotch Rebellion and the
Church of Rome, of which this chris- cross work is a
known type or figure. As for your pinchuaion-makers,
I think they should be rigorously chastised, and their
works publicly burned, let the pretty misses cry as loud
as they will. It is a monstrous shame that such an
ancient necessary appendage to the ladies' toilets should
be thus jacobitiaed, and transformed from its primitive
use into a variegated tool of faction and sedition."
Of course, these satirical remarks of the doctor's
brought the inevitable reply from the " other
side," from which is confirmed MR. ANDREW'S con-
jecture that these insignia reached Manchester
via Scotland. The Whigs retorted : —
" As to Jacobitism we have it industriously propagated
in various shapes ; even in our dress, our manufacture
and what not. Many a pretty girl has been taught to
read * God bless Prince Charles ' upon her pincushion,
before she can say her catechism.
" To me it is very obvious that plaid waistcoats, gowns,
&c., are chiefly worn at this time by way of encourage-
ment of the loyal city of Glasgow, from which place it
is well known that this commodity principally comes
several looms have been lately employed to furnish
garters, watch-strings, &c., with this elegant motto,
' God preserve P. C. and down with the Rump.' '
The interest that the ladies of Manchester mani-
fested in the stirring events of the period of the
'45 forms an entertaining chapter of local history.
RICHARD LAWSON.
UrmetoD,
8* S. XL MAY 8, '97.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
379
PUR-BLIND (8th S. xi. 66, 297).-— The 'Encyclo-
paedic Dictionary ' derives this from English pure=
wholly, and blind, which seems to be a very plausible
derivation. D. M. JR.
NOTES ON BOOKS, &c.
Biographical Notes on the Librarians of Trinity College
on Sir E. Stanhope's Foundation. By Robert Sinker,
D.D. (Cambridge, Deighton, Bell & Co.)
DURING his long and worthy tenure of the office of
librarian of Trinity College Dr. Sinker has amused him-
self with collecting such particulars concerning bis pre-
decessors as still survive. These he has now given to
the world as an issue of the Cambridge Antiquarian
Society. Thirty in all are the scholars with whom he
deals, some of them, no doubt, obscure enough now, but
others of them, like the writer himself, Mr. William
Aid is Wright, George Brimley, and others of earlier
date, men of unmistakable note. But few have found
a place in the * Dictionary of National Biography,' and
concerning such as are enshrined therein additional
particulars are given. A pleasant byway of biography is
this through which Dr. Sinker conducts us, and coming
writers will he grateful for his researches.
The Queen's Empire.
WE have here the first number of a work of remarkable
cheapness, issued by Messrs. Cassell, in honour of the
approaching festival. The part deals wholly with the
government and administration of the empire, illustrated
by a wonderful series of photographs. The work is
certain to command an enormous sale.
THE April number of the Reliquary is not up to the
usual average of this magazine, we think. As we have
said more than once, we hold it to be a mistake for pub-
lications which only appear quarterly to have articles
continued from one number to the next. In the part of
the Reliquary now before us there is a second instalment
of ' Cave Hunting in Derbyshire,' which we think would
have been better omitted. There are also papers upon
'Ancient Remains near Deepdale,' and various other
subjects of a like nature ; but the number i?, upon the
whole, a somewhat heavy one, wanting in general
interest. We wish we could see more variety in the
pages of this magazine; it might be made a thing of
great use and value to the antiquarian public if it did
but give articles more suited to their wants. We con-
sider the best paper in this number is upon ' Florentine
Crickets.1
THE April number of the English Historical Review is
even better than usual, and we feel that this is saying a
great deal, considering the high standard always main-
tained by the magazine. Mr. James Qairdner brings to
a conclusion his deeply interesting and instructive ' New
Lights on the Divorce of Henry VIII.' We hope that
he may see his way to bringing out a history of the
divorce, from the beginning until the death of Katharine.
With the new information now obtained all existing text-
books upon the subject are rendered useless to the
student. One thing stands out clearly enough — Henry
was a worse man than even his enemies have hitherto
deemed him; for there was always a feeling that he
might have, to some extent, persuaded himself that
his first marriage was not good. That theory cannot
now be held. It is also shown that he was not only
willing, but even anxious, to do anything whatever to
please the Pope, would he only declare the marriage
nol'good. Had this been done, the Reformation would
in all probability not have taken place. Doubtless some
abuses would have been modified and changes intro-
duced, but there would have been no rupture with
Rome, no spoliation of the churches, guilds, and other
charitable organizations, and most likely the Church
would have retained most of her lands and power. Had
the Reformation come at all, it would have done so by
the wishes of the people at large, not been forced upon
the country ere it was ready to receive it. We have left
ourselves scant space in which to do justice to Col.
Parnell's exposure of James Macpherson, of " Ossian "
fame. We think that there can be but little doubt in
any mind, after reading the article upon the ' Nairue
Papers,' that Macpherson deliberately forged them ; and
be really seems to have had a genius for such things.
Forgery must have been a delight to him. We can only
add that there is not one poor article in the magazine.
A FINE and an appreciative piece of criticism is that
contributed by Mr. W. L. Courtney to the Fortnightly,
under the title of * The Idea of Comedy and Pinero's
New Play.' The analysis of Mr. Pinero's work is very
able, and the significance of the play is put in a new and
an eminently favourable light. A second article, dealing
also with theatrical subjects, is the notice by Madame
Yetta Blaze de Bury of Madame Bartet. This brilliant
societaire of the Comedie Francaise, whose triumphs date
from her appearance at the Vaudeville, a score years
ago or thereabouts, is the recipient of eulogies at which
the British public, blinded by its adoration of Madame
Sarah Bernhardt, may well gape. A tribute of admira-
tion to the late Prof. William Wallace is paid by Mr.
J. H. Muirhead. Ouida, writing on 'The Twentieth
Italian Parliament,' arraigns fiercely and characteristic-
ally " Cmpinism," and is guilty of an outspokenness that
might easily embroil her with the authorities. John
Oliver Hobbes has a paper on 'Epic and Romance,'
which is, in fact, a review conveying a very favourable
estimate of Prof. Ker's recently published book with
that title. Capt. Gambler iterates his views as to 'Russia
on the Bosphorus,' and Mr. William Laird Clowes has
one more tirade against mismanagement in the Navy.
The first three articles in the Nineteenth Century all deal
with the Eastern question, though the title of the third,
'Among the Bears,' fails at first to convey the ideal
Sir John Lubbock defends his Bank Holidays, and calls
for yet another. He has but little sympathy with those
who bewail the ravage in the country which the next
Bank Holiday — that of Whitsuntide — always involves,
and little experience of other forms of privation by
which some have to suffer. Miss Wakefield writes on
'May Carols,' which are less familiar than the Christ-
mas carols. Some of those she quotes are pretty and
quaint. In 'The Progress of Medicine during the
Queen's Reign ' some comforting conclusions are drawn.
With regard to surgery the record is wonderful. The
use of anaesthetics and the antiseptic treatment have
effected a revolution. In medicine, too, a great, though
less noteworthy, advance has been made, and the average
duration of human life under civilized conditions has
been prolonged. Mr. James Mew, who is perpetually
dealing with Spanish subjects, now treats of ' Gongora'
and Gongorism, and supplies some well-executed, but
rather modern renderings. Mr. Herbert Paul writes on
' The Apotheosis of the Novel under Queen Victoria.'
Beginning with Dickens and Thackeray, he ends with
Mr. Stanley Weyman, Miss Mabel Robinson, and Miss
Emily Lawless. He has much that is worth reading to
say, but the canvas is scarcely big enough for the figures.
Mr. Buckman's ' Speech of Children ' is edifying, and
Mr. Howard's ' Tobacco in Relation to Health' and
Character ' consoling. — ' At Flores in the Azores,' con-
tributed by Mr. David Hannay to the New, deals with
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the death of Sir Richard Granville and the loss of the
Revenge. These things — mad as they must be, judged
by the standard of to-day — were, Mr. Hannay holds, due
to " greatness of mind, as it was understood by a nation
which revelled in Marlowe, and which knew what was
meant by an ' heroic fury.' ' In ' The Universities and
the Education of Women ' the Rev. A. P. H. Boughey
shows himself in favour of a special university for
women, an idea to which women, though hostile now,
may in time give heed. We are less sanguine than he.
' Lndy Asenath in the Witness Box ' is a striking con-
tribution, which anthropologists will read with interest.
' Canton English ' deals with the formation of "Pidgin
English " " as she is spoke " where " Chineses " do con-
gregate, and is striking, as showing the formation on
primitive methods of a language now widely spoken.
A curious and regrettable slip is made in the title of
' The Enfants Assistes [sic] of Paris.' It appears only in
the title, however, and the account given may be read
with advantage. The writer regwrds as a rebuke to
France the fact tb«t in these institutions little children
of nine or ten are allowed to choose their own religion. —
In the Century, kA Suburban Country Place,' by Mrs.
Van Rensselaer, depicts the residence at Brookline.
Massachusetts, of Prof. Sargent, which, judging by the
illustrations, must be a spot of ravishing beauty. ' Bi-
cycling through the Dolomites ' supplies many views of
villnges, edifices, and country types. 'Scientific Kite-
Flying' and 'Experiments with Kites' reveal some
curious and daring experiments that have been made in
the direction of aerial locomotion by Lieut. H. D. Wise,
of the United States Army. Complementary to these is
a third paper on ' Photographing from Kites.' ' Cam-
paigning with Grant' and ' The Days of Jeanne d'Arc '
are continued. — An account of ' Undergraduate Life at
Harvard,' in Scnbner's, will be read with great interest
by all concerned in university life in this country. The
points of resemblance between life in the two countries
are many. Baseball takes, of course, the plnce of cricket.
• Harvard College in the Seventies ' follows. Some
pictures from life of ' The Working of a Bank ' forms the
fourth instalment of ' The Conduct of Great Businesses.'
• London as Seen by G. D. Gibson ' deals with the
Drawing Room, the writer havii g been privileged
to attend one at Buckingham Palace a year ago. It
is a vivacious sketch, and capitally illustrated. (A
New England May Festival ' is depicted in half a dozen
well-executed and attractive designs. — In the Pall Mall,
Mount Edgcumbe, one of the loveliest and sunniest
spots in England, is described by Lady Ernestine Edg-
cumbe, and admirably illustrated by photographs.
'May Day in the Olden Time' is finely illustrated
from designs new and old, including views of the morris
dance, the milkmaids' dance, and the Northampton May
Garland. No very deep erudition is d splayed, but the
whole is agreeable. Part V. of Col. Hutchinnon's ' Story
of 1812' is no less valuable than the previous parts.
' Breeding Season" at the Gullery on Walney Island ' is
one of manv good papers which make up an excellent
number. — ' Napolt-on on England and the English,' con-
tributed to the Cornhiil by Mr. Lew Rosen, shows how
great was really the ignorance of the first emperor
concerning our institutions, and how impatiently be
chafed under the limitations imposed by England upon
his dreams of conquest. There is little that is new, but
all is interesting. ' The Boarding Officer of the Alabama '
gives, for the first time, publicity to a strange and
significant document. Mr. Atlay describes the trial of
Courvoisier for the murder of Lord William Russell.
Mr. Andrew Lang defends ' Ghosts' against some current
forms of contemptuous dismissal. — Under the title of ' A
Poet of Spring ' Robert Herrick is described in Temple
Bar. We learn little that is new concerning the sweet
pastoral lyrist, and we do not invariably agree with the
view promulgated ; but the article may be read. ' A Land
of Derelicts' describes the Falkland Islands, coasting
around which is subject to special discomforts and
dangers. ' An Unappreciated Diarist ' is Thomas Raikes,
wh«>se diary saw the light near half a century ago.
' Coleridgeiana ' and ' Tales from the Russian ' are both
to be commended. — To Macmillari's Mr. W. P. James
sends a well-written essay ' On the Theory and Practice
of Local Colour,' which furnishes an amusing picture of
the aberration of the early romanticists. Mr. Macdowell
writes on 'Raymond Lully.' 'A British Prisoner in
America ' gives a painful account of the ill-treatment and
injustice meted out to those who surrendered to Gates at
Saratoga.— To the Gentleman's Mr. Bruce Bos well sends
some ' Diabolical Folk-lore.' Mr. T. H. B. Graham deals
with the legend of ' Venus and Adonis.' — The English
Illustrated gives a pleasing account, with illustration, of
'Shelley's Italian Villa, Casa Magna.' Mr. Clark Russell
continues his capital series of ' Pictures from the Life of
Nelson.' Mr. James Milner, l At St. George's Hanover
Square,' produces many interesting wedding certificates.
' Crime in Cathay ' and the ' Spanish Embassy in London '
are to be commended. — Sir E. Verney tends to Longman's
an important paper on 'Rural P/osperity.' 'The New
Cure for Snake-bites ' opens out " a new vein for bene-
ficent research."
CASSELL'S Gazetteer, Part XLIV. carries the alphabet
to Preston, gives, under Pimlico, a design of Buckingham
Palnce, and has views of Pevens^y Castle, Pitlochry,
Pontefract Church, Powerscourt Waterfall, Portsmouth
Town Hall, and abundant other spots of interest.
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LONDON, SATURDAY, MAT 15, 1897.
CONTENTS.— N° 281.
NOTES :— Loreto, 881—" There are no birds," &c.— Graham,
883—" S. I."— Eyre, 383— Queen's Watermen— Dowry for
Cardiff Girls— Caen Wood, Highgate— Angels as Supporters
— "Motelet" — Cornish Superstition — " Teetotal," 384—
Parallel Passages— Johnson and Great Titchfield Street—
A "Ruffin" Drop— Bevis Marks, 385— Easter Riding in
Tyrol— Wesleyan Monuments — Newberry Will — Beckford's
Speech to George III., 386.
QUERIES :— " Barley-men "— " Caif "—Escape of Charles I.
from Hampton — Hatchments in Churches— Order of the
Bath—" A cat may look at a king"— Sergeant Kite— Era in
Monkish Chronology — Dewsberry— Frozen Music, 387 —
Cock-throwing — "And your petitioners," &c. — Wooden
Saxon Church— Wm. Eddis — Oratory and Intoxication —
Good Friday Custom— Dolor— Portrait of Sir J. Gibson—
" Clavus griophili," 388— The Clock saved his Life— Mon-
mouth Rebellion — Cormac— Princess Amelia, 389.
REPLIES :— Birthplace of Byron, 389— Miss Fairbrother—
Weeping Infant, 390— Carnation— " Vine "—Lead Pencil,
391— Hole House—" Greatest happiness," &c.— " Warta"=
Work-day—Mrs. Penobscot, 392— Chelmsford Murder— St.
Margaret's Church— Death of Miss Rosa Bathurst. 393—
Canon Driver on Usury— Hanaster — Sir E. Littleton —
Spanish Armada — " Maligna lux" — Church Tower But-
tresses, 394 — Swinton— " Rummer "— " Barghest"— " In-
vultation"— Longest English Words, 395— " Altar Gates"
— " Halifax Shilling "—Will of Henry VI.— Bevis de Hamp-
ton—Earls of Derwentwater, 396— Author of Fable— Scots
Greys at Blenheim — Hand of Glory, 397 — George III.
Shilling — Lancashire Customs — Authors Wanted, 398.
NOTES pN BOOKS:— Fea.'s ' Flight of the King '—Morris's
' Francis Orpen Morris ' — Seager's ' Natural History in
Shakespeare's Time' — Watkins's 'Gleanings from the
Natural History of the Ancients ' — Pulling's ' Order of the
Coif '— Macdonald's ' Chronologies and Calendars.'
NOTES AND QUERIES CONCERNING LORETO.
Not long ago I came to the church towards
which so many pilgrim feet have toiled, the fortress-
like edifice that guards the world-famed " Santa
Casa." Of that or of any other of the treasures it
enshrines this is not the place to speak from a
religious point of view ; but I may fitly tell of a
source of philologic interest that unexpectedly
revealed itself as, in company with a friend, I
lingered within the sacred precincts. On the
walls of the nave — big, bald, commonplace, and
disappointing — are eight marble tablets, which set
forth the history of the transmigrations of the Holy
House in various languages for the benefit of men
of far-off lands who come to visit it. An account
of its adventures was drawn up by Peter George
Tolomei, called II Teramano from his birthplace,
who wrote a book on the Sanctuary of Loreto about
1465 ; this abstract may be read in the original
Latin on pp. 250-2 of ' Loreto, the New Nazareth,
and its Centenary Jubilee' (1895), an enthusiastic,
but not altogether satisfying work compiled by
Villiam Garratt, M. A., " Chamberlain of the
Holy House/' In 1634 Robert Corbington, a
Jesuit priest, about whom I crave for further in-
formation, rendered the Latin of II Teramano into
living tongues ; and an English version, claimed by
him and taken from one of the tablets I have men-
tioned, is given by Mr. Augustus J. C. Hare in
* Cities of Central Italy,1 vol. ii. pp. 100, 101. It
is headed " Miraculous origin and translation of
our Blessed Lady of Loreto " and begins : —
"The church of Loreto was a chamber of the house
of the B. V. nigh Hieruealem, in the citty of Nazareth, in
which she was born and bred and saluted by the Angel,
and therein conceaved and brought up her aonne Jesus to
the age of twelue yeares."
The English is that of Co rbing ton's time, and one
would have thought it might have sufficed for the
information of all the comers who spoke that Ian-
guage. But there is yet another tablet among the
eight, which appeals to our nation, whereon the
polyglot priest makes himself responsible for a
construe of II Teramano more archaic in phrase
and spelling than the version quoted by Mr. Hare,
and through which an honest Northern accent per-
meates. It was by means of an opera-glass and
much patience that my friend and I were enabled
to possess ourselves of the quaint narrative, which
imperfect light and some tricks of time made it
anything but easy to decipher. I hope there be
lovers of (N. & Q.' who will care to scan the
result of our labours and to speculate as we have
done on the raison d'etre of this particular text,
which so far as I am aware has not hitherto been
printed. My own opinion is that when Robert
Corbington was at work on the inscriptions he
merely edited this, which had been made afore-
time, and contented himself with bringing English
" up to date " in the translation I have referred to
as occurring in Hare. From him I have supplied
words that were particularly illegible on our tablet
and have indicated them by means of italic type :
" The wondrvs flit tinge of the Kirk of ovr Blest Ledy
of Lavreto. — The kirk of Lavreto was a cbavmber in the
hovae of the blest Vergin neir Jiervsalem in the towne
of Nazaret in whilk she was borne and bred* and greeted
by the angel and thairin also conceaved and novrisht
bar sonne Jesus while he was twalle years awd. This
cavmber efter the Ascenaione of ovr B. Seviovr was by
the Apostles allowed and made a kirk in honor of ovr B.
Ledy and Luke framed a pictur to har likeness thair zit
to be sein and was havnted with muccle devotion by the
folke of the land whar it stud els long as they were
Catholiks bot when they forseckte the Christen feth and
whent efter the sect f of Mahomet the angels tooke it and
eet it in Sclavonia by a town nemmed Fiumen whar net
being honored as it sould they transported it over sea to
a wood in the bounds of Recunuti the land belonging to
a neble dame called Lavreta frae when [or whem] it
tuke its neme of our B. Ledy of Lavreta and thence ageu
for cavse of many tbeifries to a hill of twa brothers in
the same bovnes and lastly for their striving for the gifts
and oblations to the high roade neir by whar it zit stand
marvellous/or many signs graces and miracles and above
ground without foundations whereat the indwelleis of
the towne of Recanati wha came to see it bigge<) a great
wall above it zit could no man tel wher frae it came
first whill in the zer MCCXOVI. the B. V. in sleipe revelled
to a helly devote man and he telled it to divers of autho-
rity in this place whe presently resolving to try the
treuth of the vizione decried to find out saxteine parsons
* Educata in II Teramano.
f Or eprour.
382
NOTES AND QUERIES. [8-B.xuaTU.-w.
of credit whem they sent altogather to that end to the
towne of Nazaret gawing them to peare with them [as
they did carrying with them'] the mesur of this kirk and
to met it with the foundatione whilk was zet to the fore
they fand them baith alike and in a wall thairby ingravne
that it hed stvd thair and bed forgavne the place and
than coming back agen declared the forseide visione to
be trew and frae that tim fourth it hes beine surely kend
that this kirk was the cavmber of the B. V. whar to
christens begun then and hes ever efter hed muccle
devotione for that in it she hes dun and dus many and
many mirakels. Ane frier Paule de Sylva an eremit of
muccle godlines wha woned in a cell neir-by this kirk
whar daily he went to Mattins seyd that for ten zeirs one
the eight of September tweye hours before day he sawe
a light descend from heaven upon it whilk he seyd was
the B. V. wha thair ahawed haraelf one the feest of har
birth. In proof e of all whilk twa verteous men of the
seyd touno of Ilecanati many times avowed to me Pvler*
of Terreman and governor of the forseyd kirk as fol-
loweth one of them nemmed Pavle Benalduci afiermed
that his grandsyres grandsyre saw whan the Angels
broght it over sea setting it in the forseyd wood and hed
aft frequented it thair the other nemmed Francis Prior
sicklik seyd that his grandsyre being a hunder and
twantie zeirs awd hed also meikle havnted in the same
place and for a mere sure testimony that it had beine
thair he reported that hia grandsyres grandsyre hed a
hovse beside it wharin he dwelled and that in his dayes
it was bared by the angels frae thence to the hill of the
twye brothers whar they set it as seyd.
" By decree of the meikle worthy Monsignor Vincent
Casal of Bologna ruler of this belly place vnder the pro-
tection of the most worthy Cardinal Moroni
" I Robert Corbington Priest of the Company of Jesus
in the zeir MDCXXXV here trulie translated the pre-
misses out of the Latin storie hangged up in the seyd
kirk
"To the praise and glorie of the meet pvre and
immaculate Virgin."
I observe that the author of ' Names and their
Meanings ' does not countenance the teaching of
II Teramano, who says the church was called after
the lady " quse vocabatnr Loreta." Canon Taylor
writes of the Holy House having been deposited in
a laurel grove (lauretum) by angels, and adds, " It
is officially called t Sacellum gloriosae Virginis in
Laureto.' ' Mr. Garratt also notes (p. 83) : —
" The district of Loreto existed in pagan times, and
took its name from a laurel grove containing a heathen
temple, but the town was not built till after the arrival
of the Holy House. By a coincidence, the lady who
owned the wood where the Holy House remained for
eight months was named Lauretta, and her memory has
become immortal by being associated with this great
sanctuary."
ST. SWITHIN.
"THERE ARE NO BIRDS THIS YEAR IN LAST
TEAR'S NEST." — I quote this proverb from Fuller's
1 Gnomologia,' and readers of ' Don Quixote ' will
recognize in it an old acquaintance. My reason
for directing attention to it is that it is made use
of by the writer of an article in the Edinburgh
Review for April, entitled 4 Novels of the Italian
Renaissance,' in the following context. In some
* Praposiio, II Teramano. Prefect, Hare.
introductory observations on the imperfection of
our endeavours to realize the past, because " there
remains something no skill can resuscitate, some
tint of mistlight or sunlight, some sound, or it
may be some silence, which gave that indefinite
characteristic we name atmosphere," the reviewer
asks : —
" Who can for a moment dream that the serene
Virgin, beset by roses and angels, who looks down from
the walls of a London gallery, bears for him the sem-
blance she bore for the generations who held her image
in their heart ? Who can imagine that the black-letter
romance tells the same story to him that it told to our
forebears when the world was four hundred years
younger? True and true and three times true is that
Sadducean proverb, ' There is no bird in any last year's
nest.' '
I have alluded to the fact that the proverb is
Spanish; it occurs in 'Don Quijote,' II. Ixxiv.:
En los nidos de antauo no hay pajaros hogano."
But from the " ingenioso hidalgo " to the Sadducee
is a long leap back, and I doubt if there be any
higher authority than a treacherous memory for
assigning the proverb to a people of whom our
knowledge is little better than nothing. Maybe
"Sadducean" is a blunder for "Saavedran."
Again, the meaning attached by the reviewer to
this pet proverb of his is questionable. The phrase
is explained by the 'Diccionario de la Lengua
Castellana ' of the Spanish Academy in 1783 as a
proverb admonishing us not to let occasion slip,
because of the difficulty of finding it when sought,
and is aptly employed with this signification by
Longfellow at the end of his poem, {It is not
always May': —
Enjoy the spring of love and youth,
To some good angel leave the rest ;
For time will teach thee soon the truth,
There are no birds in last year's nest.
Don Quixote uses it as a rebuke to persons prof-
fering him advice which it was impossible to accept,
the opportunity being past. "Yo fui loco," he
says, "y ya soy cuerdo" (I was mad, and now I
am in my senses). How a proverb of which our
equivalent is " Take Time by the forelock " can
serve to give point to the Edinburgh reviewer's
remarks above quoted is not clear to me. The
"Sadducean" meaning — quien sdbe? — may be
different from the Spanish, but I am tempted to
think that the reviewer's notions are as hazy about
the meaning as about the source. F. ADAMS.
GRAHAM FAMILY. — Really the matter is not one
of great importance, but it happened that while I
was consulting your file on other subjects, I lighted
upon some correspondence regarding persons of
that name which I bear personally. That corre-
spondence occurs in the third volume of your first
series — in 1851, I think.
The omission from later Scottish biographical
dictionaries of one person of my name is accounted
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
383
for by the fact that in the literary world of the
time his name of James Grahame was over-
shadowed by that of his uncle, James Grahame,
the religious poet, the friend of Wordsworth,
Scott, Campbell, and of Mrs. Grant of Laggan,
who was the author of 'The Sabbath,' 'British
Georgics,' 'Mary Queen of Scots/ 'The Birds of
Scotland/ &c. But another reason subsists for
the non-remembrance of the nephew. His whole
writings of any note were directed to the subjects
of slavery, and the successful achievement of the
independence of the United States of America.
His magnum opus was ' A History of the United
States of America. '
If any one refers to Mr. Justin Winsor's
'History of America,' 1887, he will find that
this James Grahame's 'History,' written in
1827, is still a standard authority on the national
history of America from the New England point
of view. When first published it was attacked by
the celebrated George Bancroft, and defended in a
published pamphlet by Josiah Quincy, then Presi-
dent of Harvard College, Cambridge, Mass. ; and I
saw in 1892, by the kindness of Mr. Justin Winsor,
the Librarian of Harvard, the original copy of that
'History' with my relation's notes for the American
edition. Grahame was made an LL.D. of Harvard
honoris causa.
A contributor to your correspondence on the
subject signing himself J. M. has got confused as
to the family relationships, and refers to a James
Grahame who died in 1817, at the age of twenty,
and who was my father's brother. There were
three men of the same family and the same name
living at the same time, as a brief pedigree appended
will show : —
Thomas Grahame=pMargaret Robertson (of the Struan family).
Robert Grahame, of Whitehall, 1. The Rev. James Grahame, mar. Hannah,
mar. Mies Geddes. (Lord Pro- only child of Richard Graham, of the Mote,
vost of Glasgow, 1833.) Annan; issue; d. 1811.
Jean, mar. Archibald
Grahame, of Dalmar-
nock.
I
Thomas Grahame, of 2. James Grahame, Advocate,
Whitehill ; issue. Edinburgh, mar. Matilda Rob-
ley ; issue ; d. 1812.
I I
Thomas Grahame, 3. James Grahame,
my father ; b. 1793, b. 1797, d. s.p. 1817.
d. 1880 ; issue.
There were thus three men of the same name
and family living at the same time, Nos. 1 and 2
being distinguished literary men and the third
quite unmarked ; but without doubt No. 2 left a
greater literary mark behind him than No. 1.
I have the impression that Grahame's ' History
of the United States/ first published in London in
1827, has passed through a sixth edition, published
at Philadelphia, the others emanating from Boston,
and I know that in a popular history prepared for
visitors to the World's Fair at Chicago in 1893
be is largely referred to. By whom that popular
history was written I do not know.
It may interest your readers to know that the
same midwife brought into the world the same
night at Boston Josiah Quincy and (Copley)
Lord Lyndhurst. This Justin Winsor told me.
J. G.
Cf
S. I."— In referring to Dr. Birkbeck Hill's
'Talks about Autographs,' the writer of 'Pages
from a Private Diary,' in the Cornhill Magazine
for February, p. 264, makes mention of a Shake-
speare folio, now in possession of Sir Henry Irving,
which, after belonging to Theobald and to Dr.
Johnson, was owned by one who has written him-
self down "S. L," and left the world to guess at
his identity. The Cornhill diarist's conjecture is
Soame Jenyns, and he considers that he is justified
in entertaining it by the facts that "Johnson had
cut up Jenyns in a review, and used frequently to
sneer at him ; it would be in keeping with Jenyns's
humour to revenge himself by putting in an
appearance at Johnson's sale, for they were much
of an age." Surely a form of revenge so delicate
as to be almost Christian ! But why may not
" S. I." have stood for Samuel Ireland, with whose
humour it would be quite in keeping to attend
Samuel Johnson's sale, and to secure, if possible,
the tome to add to his collection ? The precious
"William Henry" had in his possession (if he
may be believed) both a first and a second folio
during the time when he was aping Shakespeare.
ST. SWITHIN.
SURNAME EYRE. — This surname has been
common in the Peak of Derbyshire from very early
times, and has been borne by families of rank and
wealth. It occurs in the fourteenth century as le
Aier, le Eyr, le Eyre, &c. Mr. Bardsley, in his
' English Surnames,' mentions the forms le Eyr, le
Heir, le Eir. It is the same word as the Irish
aire, the clansman " who possessed twenty-one
cows and upwards, or, as we should say, had the
franchise, and might fulfil the functions of bail,
witness," &c. (Prof. Sullivan, in ' Encyclop. Brit.,'
ninth edition, xiii. 257). " If his wealth consisted
of chattels only, he was a W-aire, or cow-aire "
(ibid., p. 255). At Edale, in the Peak, there were
farms known as " vaccaries," which may have been
originally occupied by "eyres." There are still
plenty of Eyres in the High Peak.
Matzner gives the following forms of the word
" heir," meaning one who inherits property : " eir,"
384
NOTES AND QUERIES. [8*s.xi.MAYi5,'9T.
"heir," "hair," "air," "heire," "hayre," "ayre."
The ' Prompt. Parv.' has " eyyer " and " eyre. " In
the surname the meaning is "master," as in the Latin
herus, and sometimes in heres : " heres apud anti-
quos pro domino ponebatur." The term "heir-
at-law" raises the suspicion that "heir" might
have meant "master," unless the distinguishing
words "at-law" were added, just as "attorney"
might have simply meant "agent." We may com-
pare the surnames Master, Earle, Lord, Franklin.
S. 0. ADDT.
THE QUEEN'S WATERMEN. — An article in the
Globe of 21 April mentions the fact that this body
is likely to form a part of the Jubilee procession in
June next, and reminds us that Her Majesty has
never used the royal barges, which are under the
care of Messenger, of Teddington, in his capacity
as Queen's bargemaster. It may be well to note,
in connexion with this reminder, that in 1783 (as
appears from a document in my possession) an
alteration was made in the method of payment of
this functionary. Wm. Sawyer exercised the office
up to 10 Oct., 1783, making a detailed charge for
the expenses incurred, under the following heads :
Dressing and trimming His Majesty's Barges.
Watch and Lamp.
Poor's Rates.
Scavengers.
Church Rates.
Larson's Dues.
Repairs to Barge House.
Mops and Brooms.
And the annual disbursements amounted to about
602. But a new regulation came into effect in
October, 1783, by which a mighty economy was
effected, the bargemaster having agreed to accept
302. per annum in lieu of all outgoings. He had
ong been promised that his arrears should be paid,
and he seems to have thought a bird in the hand
worth two in the bush, and that a definite yearly
sum of 302. was preferable to an uncertain pay-
ment of items amounting to a larger amount, often
applied for and seldom paid. My impression, derived
from some pencil memoranda on the document, is
that he ultimately got his arrears in full. Query,
what is the present stipend ? J. E. HODGKIN.
A DOWRY FOR CARDIFF GIRLS. — The following
cutting from the Manchester Weekly Times of
12 March is worthy of being garnered in *N. & Q.':
"The Press Association's Cardiff correspondent states
that the Marquis of Bute has adopted a curious method
of commemorating his silver wedding. At a meeting
of the Cardiff Town Council on Monday a letter was read
from his lordship offering to hand over to that body
1,0001., the yearly proceeds of which he desires shall
be given to some girl or girls of the poorer classes
whose marriage may be impeded by the want of money.
Lord Bute attaches two conditions to the offer — namely,
that the mayor for the time being, in giving the dowry,
shall remind the bride and bridegroom of the origin
of the fund, and read to them the first eleven verses
of the second chapter of the Gospel of St. John,
descriptive of the marriage feast at Cana, where wate
was miraculously turned into wine. The offer wa
accepted by the Council, and referred to the Financi
Committee."
RICHARD LAWSON.
Urmston.
CAEN WOOD, HIGHGATE. (See 8th S. xi. 283/
— In Frederick Prickett's * History and Antiquitiei
of Higbgate' (1842) this is alluded to at p. 63,
under the heading Ken Wood. On the next pag(
occurs the following paragraph : —
" The earliest notice of it appears in Neale's ' Historj
of the Puritans,' from which the following is an extract ;
' Venner, the fanatic, who created a disturbance at the
head of the fifth monarchy men, in January, 1661,
sought a retreat with his followers for a short lime in
Ken Wood.' "
On the same page a quotation from ' The Beauties
of England and Wales 'J alludes to it as Ken Wood,
and the author himself adheres to this spelling
beneath the lithographed sketch which faces
p. 65 of the book in question. JOHN T. PAGE.
West Haddon, Northamptonshire.
ANGELS AS SUPPORTERS. — I think that in
many cases angels were used as merely orna-
mental supporters, especially by ecclesiastics.
Thus we find the shield of Bishop Kennedy
with angels supporting it. The bishop would not
be entitled to supporters except ornamentally.
In one instance the shield of Prior Hepburn is
supported from behind by a single angel. A
modern example is that of the book-plate of Mon-
signor Wilkinson, Catholic Bishop of Hexham,
whose shield is sustained by angels, evidently as
ornaments. Cardinal Beaton appears to have some-
times used winged mermaids in the same manner.
GEORGE ANGUS.
St. Andrews, N.B.
" MOTELET." — Here is surely another new word
following " buslet." The small-sized motor car
is so advertised, as I read when passing through
the City a week ago.
HAROLD MALET, Colonel,
A CORNISH SUPERSTITION. — The following
paragraph appeared in the South Wales Daily
News, 16 April : —
"The Western Morning News reports a remarkable
case of superstition. A young woman in Penzance had
suffered from fits, and she adopted a remedy which
would be to most people almost as repulsive as the dis-
ease itself. She procured a live toad, placed it in a bag,
hung it around her neck, and carried it next her body I
The woman was cured of her fits ; but she was being
medically attended at the Penzance Infirmary at the
same time. The woman believes, however, that this was
a coincidence, and that her strange talisman was the
instrument of her cure."
F. C. BIRKBECK TERRY.
" TEETOTAL." — This word I have often heard to
be derived from a stuttering pronunciation of total)
8"S. XI. MAT 15/97.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
385
but perhaps it would not be considered unworthy
of room in * N. & Q.' to state that in reading the
Cambrian, a weekly newspaper published at
Swansea, for 10 Feb., 1837, I found this derivation
given by a Mr. Samuel Taylor from Birmingham,
a native of Jamaica, at a meeting at Hereford the
previous week. As this quotation carries the
derivation so far back, I thought it would be wise
to make a note of it. Perhaps some one else may
have met with an earlier quotation. D. M. R.
PARALLEL PASSAGES. — I do not know whether
the following parallel has been remarked : —
The milk-white rose,
With whose sweet smell the air shall be perfumed.
Sbakspeare, '2 Henry VI.,' I. i.
The milk-white thorn that scents the evening gale.
Burns, * The Cotter's Saturday Night.'
There are a few somewhat similar passages which
I know, and perhaps many which I do not know :
Where the light wings of Zephyr, ppprest with perfume
Wax faint o'er the gardens of Gul in her bloom.
Byron, ' Bride of Abydos,' stanza i.
Gul means the rose.
The sweet south,
That breathes upon a bank of violets,
Stealing and giving odour.
Shakspeare, ' Twelfth Night,' I. i.
Now gentle gales,
Panning their odoriferous wings, dispense
Native perfumes, and whisper whence they stole
Those balmy spoils.
Milton, 'Paradise Lost,' book iv. 11. 156-159.
The likeness between the last two passages has
been noticed, but so far as I know the other
resemblances have not been observed.
E. YARDLEY.
P.S. — I add the following to the other passages.
It is strange that I should have forgotten it : —
And west winds with musky wing
About the cedarn alleys fling
Nard and Cassia's balmy smells.
Milton, ' Comus,' 11, 989-991.
DR. JOHNSON AND GREAT TITCHFIELD STREET.
—One of the illustrations of an article, * Some Old
Visiting Cards/ in the April number of the Strand
Magazine, represents a card bearing, in script
characters, within an engrailed border : " Dor
Johnson | N. 81 | G. Titchfield Street." The " Dr.
Johnson " may not be Samuel Johnson. If the
card is a genuine card of Samuel Johnson, the
inscription contravenes Hawkins's statement that
he did not assume the style of " Doctor," and
gives an address which is not in the Hat of his
London lodgings that he gave to Boswell.
DRUMMON D- MILLIKEN.
A " RUFPIN " DROP.— I write the first word as
I used to hear my mother pronounce it, for I
never heard any one else make use of the expres-
sion. After taking her usual tea, with milk and sugar,
she would take a small quantity of tea alone, with-
out milk or sugar, and this was what she called a
ruffin drop. She was born in Birmingham, but
spent a good many of her early years in Somerset-
shire, a few miles from Bristol, and there, I pre-
sume, she picked up the expression, inasmuch as I
have never heard it in the mouths of Birmingham
people. As for the practice, it still exists, and is
not confined to the West of England, for I now
know an old lady of eighty-eight, who hails from
the Eastern Counties, and who daily indulges in a
ruffin drop at afternoon tea ; but she does not
know this expression, and has no other of her own
to replace it.
I see that Webster gives ruffin— disordered (of
raiment) and to ruff=to ruffle, disorder; and
there is no doubt something out of due order in a
ruffin drop. At the same time, the proper spelling
may possibly be roughing (as roughening the
palate), for, though my mother certainly pro-
nounced a g when ending a word, she may never
have seen this word written, and have pronounced
as she heard it pronounced by people less scru-
pulous about their final g's. F. CHANCE.
Sydenhatn Hill.
BEVIS MARKS. — At p. 268 MK. J. B. FLEMING
suggests that the name of this locality is more
likely to have been derived from Sir Bevis of
Hampton than from the Abbots of Bury. The
following is Stow's account : —
" Then next [to the Papey] is one great house large
of roomep, fayre courts and garden plottes, sometimes
pertayning to the Bassets, since that to the Abbots of
Bury in Suffolke, and therefore called Buries Markes,
corruptly Beuis markes, and since the dissolution of the
Abbey of Bury to Thomas Henage the father, and to Sir
Thomas his son."—' Survey,' ed. 1603. p. 148.
I cannot help thinking that this is one of Stow's
numerous guesses, and that if not actually derived
from the knight of Hampton, the name probably
owes its origin to a family with a somewhat similar
patronymic. The " poor church of S. Augustine
Pappey near Bewesmarkes " is mentioned in the
will of William Cresewyk, which was dated 3 Nov.,
1405 (Sharpe's 'Calendar of Hustings Wills,' ii.
372). Under the name of Bevys Marke, the place
is mentioned in the will of William Bangore, dated
9 April, 1450 (ibid., ii. 518). There was a family
called Beauveys, which was connected with the
City of London (ibid. , ii. 244), and whose name in
early times would have been regularly pronounced
Bewvis or Bevis. Cf. Beaulieu, pron. Bewley,
beauty, pron. bewty, &c. The normal pronuncia-
tion of the northern French word biau and its
derivatives was apparently bew or bee (cf. Beau-
champ, Beachv = biauchief, &c.). It would be
interesting if PROF. SEE AT could tell us, from his
experience, to what extent the relics of the old
Norman pronunciation still exist in England.
The data afforded by Stow ought to be sufficient
to prove the correctness or otherwise of his story.
386 NOTES AND QUERIES. [8» a. a. HATH -97.
What, for instance, was the history of the con-
nexion of the Abbots of Bury with this locality,
and at what date did it commence ? It will be
seen that as early as 1405 the place was known
under its present name. W. F. PRIDBAUX.
EASTER RIDING IN TYROL. — An ancient and
pious custom, called Easter riding, the origin of
which may be traced back to the remote times of
pre-Christian religion, is still observed among the
German peasants of Tyrol as well as in the few
Wendish or Slavonic villages of Saxony. This
Easter riding is arranged during Easter-time, and
all inhabitants of the neighbourhood take part in
the festivity. Cross-bearers on horseback open
the procession, and are followed by the priest and
lower clergy, all on horseback, carrying the
sanctuary, or consecrated bread and wine, and dis-
tributing the benediction. Behind them old and
young, women and men, follow, bare headed and
fervently praying. The procession passes from
the church through the village to the fields, around
each of which they ride, to implore the blessing of
Heaven over them, that the seed may grow, the
summer may bring a good harvest, and that the
year may be a happy one. X.
WESLETAN MONUMENTS. — It may interest some
of the Wesleyan community to know that when
the old chapel in Tottenham Court Road was taken
down, being unsafe, all the monuments were
removed, and are now reposing in a vault belong-
ing to Messrs. Burke, marble masons, in Newman
Street. It seems a vast pity that these monuments,
some of which must be of great interest, should
not be replaced in some chapel or building belong-
ing to the community, or be in some way preserved
from destruction.
ARTHUR F. G. LEVESON-GOWER.
NEWBERRY WILL. (See 3* S. x. 91.)— In
looking up the earlier reference to * Peppercorn
Rent/ recently mentioned in your columns, I hap-
pened to come across the query (with editorial
reply) as above. Having something new to tell on
the subject, I deem it well to make this communi-
cation for the benefit of your readers.
In the summer of 1894, by kind permission of
she Rev. R. S. Gregory, Vicar of Edmonton, co.
Middlesex, I was enabled to add his parish register
to the long list of those records examined by me
for historical purposes in various parts of England.
Ever mindful in such cases to make note also of
anything in the monumental inscriptions which
might prove useful to others for the like purposes,
either in connexion with the parish or otherwise, I
endeavoured with regard to the curious epitaph 'in
question* to glean some information in verification
explanation of, or supplementing, the copy of
* Having probably been written on wood, which went
o decay, it has long since disappeared.
the same, with notes, which I long since obtained
from one of the original commonplace books,
dated 1720, of a contemporary witness, the Rev.
John Lambe, M.A. (of Clare Hall, Camb.), then
rector of Ridly, co. Kent, as follows :—
In Edmonton Churchyard, Middlesex.
Hie Jacet
Newberry Will ;
Vitam finivit
Cum Cochiae Pill.
Quis administravit 1
Bellamy Su.
Quantum Quantitate ?
Nescio. Sciane Tu ?
Ne Sutor ultra Crepidam.
Ob. Jun. 18. 1695.
Mr. Lambe adds these notes : to the second line
of the epitaph, " Scil. William Newberry "; to the
fourth, 'Pill is an English word"— "Purging
pills "; and to the sixth, " Su is English or stands
for sutor, and then it signifies Susan Bellamy, but
I rather think it a Reflexion upon some Empirick
who had been Sutor a Tayler." The epitaph I
translate as below : —
Here lies Newberry Will;
He ended his life with cochia pill.
Who administered it ? Bellamy Su.
In what quantity 1 I don't know. Do you ?
Cobbler, keep to your last !
He died 18 June [should be Jan.], 1695 [i.e. 1695/6].
It appears to relate to an ostler at the "Cross
Keys " tavern, who, according to the parish register,
was buried 19 Jan., 1695/6, as "William New-
bery." It is traditionally reported that his death
was caused by an overdose of cochia (i.e., compound
colocynth) pills,* administered by an ignorant (if
not, as I imagine, vindictive) fellow-servant named
Susan Bellamy. Whether Mr. Lambe was right
or not in his ingenious conjectures, there can be
little doubt that the epitaph was written by
some jealous local apothecary, who would at that
time technically speak of such pills briefly as
Pil. Cochice ( = Pilulce Cochice), and of the pre-
paration as "cochia pill," in English.
W. I. R. V.
ALDERMAN BECKFORD'S SPEECH TO GEORGE III.
(See 1" S. ii. 262.)— At the above reference a
correspondent, an ardent loyalist, denies that the
celebrated speech to the king, a portion of which
is engraved in letters of gold beneath Beckford's
statue in the Guildhall, was ever delivered by him,
and asserts that the speech was written by Home
Tooke and was by Beckford's contrivance inserted
in the minutes of the Common Council. If this is
so, it is a remarkable circumstance (as is related in
the Public Advertiser of the day) that, when in
the same year (1770) the Lord Mayor and Cor-
poration attended to present an address to the
* Composed chiefly of aloes, ecammony, and eolocynth,
and used as a purgative. The same are by some people
still called " cochia pills."
s. xi. MAT is. -»7.] NOTES AND QUERIES,
387
king on the occasion of the birth of a princess, the
Lord Chamberlain should have read a message to
the deputation requesting that no answer should
be made to the king's reply to the address. In
those days it was very ticklish work to misrepre-
sent what took place at Court, and Beckford's
speech and the proceedings attending the address
on the birth of a princess were chronicled in the
Public Advertiser and the Gent. Mag. without
incurring the royal displeasure. Is it possible
that Beckford's celebrated speech was never
uttered by him, and that the glory he acquired as
the defender of the liberties of the citizens of
London was unmerited ? JOHN HEBB.
tttttltt,
We must request correspondents desiring information
on family matters of only private interest to affix their
names and addresses to their queries, in order that the
answers may be addressed to them direct.
" BARLEY-MEN. " — Jamieson (s.v. " Burlaw ")
cites the following passage : " The said John Hay
obliges himself to provide the foresaid William
in ane house and yard, and to give him ane croft
by the sight of barley-men, give he require the same,
he paying the rent the barley-men puts it too." As
reference Jamieson gives : " Contract A. 1721.
State Fraser of Fraserfield, p. 327." What is the
meaning of this reference ? I cannot find any
entry of " Fraser of Fraserfield » in the Catalogue
of Bodley's Library, or of the British Museum.
The form " barley-man " is not registered in the
1 New English Dictionary.'
THE EDITOR OP
'THE ENGLISH DIALECT DICTIONARY.'
Clarendon Press, Oxford.
"OAIF." — Jamieson gives this as a Roxburgh
word meaning " familiar," and says that it occurs
in Sibbald's 'Glossary' (1802) in the sense of
"tame." I should be glad to receive further
information about this word from any one living
in Scotland. THE EDITOR OF
'THE ENGLISH DIALECT DICTIONARY.'
Clarendon Press, Oxford.
ESCAPE OF CHARLES I. FROM HAMPTON COURT
PALACE, MIDDLESEX. — The king escaped during
the evening of Thursday, 11 Nov., 1647, crossed
the Thames, and went immediately towards Oat-
lands. Is the precise place known where Charles
crossed the Thames ? 0. MASON.
29, Emperor's Gate, S.W.
HATCHMENTS IN CHURCHES.— Can any of your
readers tell me whether the custom of placing
hatchments in churches is completely obsolete ;
and if so, when the custom ceased ? I am under
the impression that from time immemorial the
hatphmpnts of deceased members of the Duke of
Bedford's family have been, until a very recent
date, placed in the church of Chenies, in Bucking-
hamshire. I should be glad to know what is the
origin of the custom and what is the earliest
example of a hatchment in existence.
ARTHUR F. G. LEVESON-GOWER,
THE ORDER OF THE BATH. — I seek to know
the origin and meaning of the Order of the Bath.
I have * Chambers's Encyclopaedia,' but should be
glad of more detailed information. L. N.
[Information will be found in Stanley's • Westminster
Abbey.' ' The Manner of Creating the Knights of the
Order of the Bath ' is reprinted in the first volume of the
Harleian Miscellany.]
"A CAT MAY LOOK AT A KING."— -Can any
one inform me what is the origin of the above
saying? Where does it first occur? I shall be
glad of any information regarding it, either through
the medium of these pages or sent to me direct.
I have consulted the whole of the series of 'N. & Q,'
and several works of reference, but can find
out nothing about it. FLORENCE PEACOCK.
Dunstan House, Kirton-in-Lindsey.
SERGEANT KITE. — Will some one kindly refer
me to an account of Sergeant Kite ? S.
ERA IN ENGLISH MONKISH CHRONOLOGY. —
May I ask if it is known in what era the Eng-
lish monks dated the year before the use of
the era of the Incarnation was known to them?
Mr. Stevenson, in the notes to the ' Crawford
Charters/ maintains that this era was not intro-
duced by St. Augustine, as J. M. Kemble
supposed, but by Bede ; and Mr. Bradley, in the
Academy, and Prof. Haitian d, in the English
Historical Review, have referred to Mr. Steven*
son's correction of Kemble's views with approval.
0. G.
DEWSBERRY OF DEWSBERRY HALL ^ (PRE-
SUMABLY co. YORK).— Will some reader give me
particulars of this family ? The date to which my
inquiry particularly alludes is the first half of the
eighteenth century. Little or no importance, I
suppose, can be attached to the spelling of the
name, which now may be, or is, spelt Duesbury or
Dewsbury ; though to go further back it might be
written Desborough (Duesborough), which was the
old form of spelling Dewsbury, Yorks. There was
some time last, or early this, century a family
named Duesbury who originated or founded the
Royal Derby Porcelain Works, Derby ; but I
cannot say if they were connected with the family
I seek information about, whose arms are given,
from a private source, Quarterly, (1) an eagle, or
hawk, erect or, on an azure ground ; (2) erminois (?).
Any details will be appreciated. KOKKBY.
FROZEN Music. (See 7th S. i. 189, 259.)— At
the above reference it is explained, on the Authority
388
NOTES AND QUERIES. [8»s.xi. MAT 15/97.
of Emerson (' Quotation and Originality,' Emer-
son's 'Works,' 1883, vol. vi. p. 136) that the ex-
pression "frozen music," applied to architecture
by Madame de Stael, is borrowed from Goethe's
''dumb music," which is Vitruvius's rule "that
the architect must not only understand drawing
but music." I should be glad to know where
Madame de Stael uses the expression, and what is
th« context. JOHN HEBB,
Willesden Green.
COCK-THROWING.— In ' Social England,' vol. iv.,
I read : —
'In 1703 the cruel game of cock- throwing, in which
the object was to spike cocks thrown with their legs
tied on to sharp stakes, was stopped on Shrove Tues-
days within the City. Fighting-oock matches were as
popular as ever."
Reference is given to Malcolm, v. 114, 125.
I cannot verify these references from the copy of
Malcolm to which I have turned. At p. 125, I
find that "the Lord Mayor and Aldermen issued
a proclamation forbidding the cruel practice of
throwing at cocks on Shrove Tuesday." Throwing
at cocks was cruel enough, but it had been a
popular pastime, and was celebrated in song in the
middle of the preceding century. At p. 114 I
find a mention of cock-fighting, comparatively a
good sport. Where does the mention of the cruel
game of throwing cocks at spikes occur ?
Cairo. KILLIGREW.
YOUR PETITIONERS WILL EVER PRAY "
Petitions to Parliament usually conclude in this
way. What are the words which are omitted (but
intended to be understood) after the word " pray " ?
F. W. M.
undesigned1/'
*°
' " We' tbe
( WOODEN SAXON CeuRCH.-Can any one tell me
if a wooden Saxon church still exists in England ?
i fancy .saw an account of one some years ago,
built of the trunks of trees, and still used for
lervice. think it was said to be in one of the
eastern counties. %
Qy. Qreenstead, Essex ? See 8th S. vi. 228, 297.] '
WILLIAM EDDis.-William Eddis was Surveyor
of the Customs at Annapolis, in the province of
Maryland from 1769 to 1777. After his return to
England there was published a book written by
him, entitled ' Letters from America, Historical
AH, De18"1PtJ1,veV-London» Panted for the
Author, 1792" It is a very valuable description
ife in the colonies at the outbreak of the
American Revolution. I am desirous of learning
something of Eddis'a life before he came to Marv-
land and after his return to England.
Baltimore. BERNARD 0, STEINER.
ORATORY AND INTOXICATION. — The late Lord
Beaconsfield, in 1878, referred to his most dis-
tinguished political rival as " a sophistical rheto-
rician inebriated with the exuberance of his own
verbosity." But I find in Joseph Sykes's ' Studies
of Public Men ' (second series, p. 41), published in
1847, the observation that both Sir Eobert Peel
and Lord John Russell
4 -speak little from impulse, nor ever appear carried
away by the greatness of their subject, still lees by mere
eloquence or combination of phrage, whilst the mere
orator is apt to be 'intoxicated by his own words.' '
From whom was quoted this description of an
orator as "intoxicated by his own words" ?
ALFRED F. BOBBINS.
A GOOD FRIDAY CUSTOM. — In the Daily News,
17 April, it is stated that on Good Friday, at
St. Mary Woolnoth, Lombard Street,
"hard boiled eggs, coloured, and with a suitable text
written on each— an ancient custom at this church— were
given to the members of the congregation as they left
the building at the close of the morning service."
Is it known how long this custom has prevailed ?
Do you, or any of your correspondents, know
whether any other church has a similar custom ?
F. 0. BIRKBECK TERRY.
DOLOR AS A CHRISTIAN NAME. — Dolor Davis,
born about 1600 A.D., married 29 March, 1624,
at East Fairleigh, Kent, Margery, daughter of
Richard Willard, of Horsmunden, Kent, yeoman.
I wish to learn whether the name Dolor was peculiar
to this Davis, and what might be the origin or
meaning of it. Must this be in the dolorous state
of affairs surrounding the boy's cradle ? Dolor
was ancestor to many distinguished Americans —
among others the present Secretary of the Navy.
F. J. P.
Boston, Mass.
Is it from the female name Dolores, common in
Spain TJ
PORTRAIT OF SIR JOHN GIBSON, KNT. — Is any
portrait extant of Sir John Gibson, Knt., Lieut.-
Governor of Portsmouth, and first colonel of tbe
28th (Gloucestershire) Regiment of Foot, in 1694 ?
INQUIRER.
" CLAVTTS GRIOPHILI."— This curious term occurs
in a grant of land by Richard Hayle, of Flicham,
Norfolk, to William Gunnild, of the same place,
undated, but, to judge by the writing, about the
middle of the thirteenth century. The rent clause
is as follows : —
" Reddendo inde annuatim Eustathio filio Ade de
Risingea et heredibua suia unum denarium de cenau ad
festura Sancti Michaelis, et ad scutagium Domini Regis
quando advenerit : unum obolum nee plus nee minus.
Et mini et heredibua meia unum clavum griophili ad
natale domini pro omnibus servitiia consuetudinibus," &c.
I can find no explanation of this strange-sounding
item of rest in Du Cange, Blount, Spelman, or
8«> g. xi. MAT 15, '97.1
NOTES AND QUERIES.
389
elsewhere. Guesses are possible ; but perhaps
some one knows. Among the witnesses to this
charter are John " le personesman " of Flioham
and John Tanator, ».«., Tanner. 0. DBEDES.
THE CLOCK SAVED HIS LIFE.-— When I was a
boy, more than sixty years ago, I often heard my
grandfather relate the following story. There was
a sentinel on duty at Windsor Castle, who was
found asleep at his post, and was tried by oourt
martial, and found guilty, and sentenced to death.
He, however, stated that he was awake, and that
at twelve o'clock (midnight) he heard St. Paul's
Cathedral olock, in London, strike thirteen. He
asked to be respited until inquiry could be made
about the truth of his statement. Inquiry was
made, and the sentry's tale proved to be true.
This saved the man's life. I had not thought of
this story for years ; but sitting one day recently
in a club in Portsmouth, some conversation
brought this story to my mind, and I related it.
Two other gentlemen sitting near me said at once,
;< I remember my father relating the same story,
as told to him by his father." Is this remarkable
saving of life recorded in the Gentleman's Maga-
xine, or in the ' Annual Register,' or elsewhere ?
WILLIAM PAYNE.
Southsea,
THE MONMOUTH REBELLION : HAERIET MAR-
TINEATT, — Did the late Harriet Martineau ever
write a novel founded on the incidents of the
Monmouth insurrection in 1685 ? I had an im-
pression that such a tale appeared in the early
numbers of Once a Week, but I have searched for
it there in vain. My memory must have misled
me. Will any courteous reader inform me if this
talented lady ever produced such a work ? If yea,
where, when, and under what title ? NEMO.
CORMAC OR CORMACK. — Will any reader kindly
furnish me with particulars relating to the origin
of the name and primary locale, &c., of those who
now bear the designation Cormac or Cormack ? I
may say that originally the family to which I
belong came from Thurso ; there being in Caithness,
shire large numbers bearing the patronymic Cor-
mack. Locally it is affirmed that the first of the
name came from Ireland ; but search on my part in
several provincial libraries has not been conducive
to the acquisition of trustworthy information on
this score. D. STBWART-CORMACK, M.J.I.
Montgomery Street, Edinburgh.
PRINCESS AMELIA. — Were there any children
of the private marriage of Princess Amelia, daughter
of King George III.? Particulars of their names
and descendants are desired. Some time since a
question was asked relative to " Anne of Kew," but
I have observed no reply. Who was she ? Any
relation of the above ? $. Q. CLAYTON.
Richmond, Surrey.
THE BIRTHPLACE OP BYRON.
(8* S. xi. 348.)
There is considerable difficulty — in view of
reoent structural changes — in locating the precise
site of Byron's birthplace. The most generally
received account is that the poet was born at No.
16, Holies Street, Cavendish Square. Your
correspondent is, I think, mistaken in attributing
to No. 6 any pretensions in that matter. No. 24
was for a long time a competitor for that proud
distinction ; but, according to Murray's * Hand-
book of London ' — unless the numbers of the houses
in that street had been altered between 1788 and
1872 — Byron was born at the house which in the
latter year was numbered 16. That fact is, I
believe, substantiated by a bill in Mr. Murray's
possession. Mr. Dallas, who had excellent means
of information, states that Byron was born at
Dover. In a note prefixed to his * Recollections
of the Life of Lord Byron,' published in London
in 1824, Mr. Dallas says :—
" I find in the newspapers that Lord Byron ia stated
on the urn to have been born in London. The year
previous to the January when he was born I was on a
visit to Captain Byron and my sister at Chantilly. Lord
Byron's father and mother, with Mrs. Leigh, then
Augusta Byron, a child then about four years old, were
in Prance. I returned to Boulogne, where I then had a
house, when I was visited by Mra. Byron on her way to
England; she was pregnant, and stopped at Dover on
crossing the Channel. That Lord Byron was born there
I recollect being mentioned both by his uncle and my
sister ; and I am so fully persuaded of it (Captain Byron
and my sister soon followed and stayed some time at
Folkestone), that I cannot even now give full credit to
the contrary, and half suspect that his mother might
have had him christened in London, and thus given
grounds for a mistake."
That Byron was christened in London is an
undoubted fact. On 6 Feb., 1871, the following
certified extract was made from the register of
baptisms in the parish of Marylebone.
"Baptisms in the year 1788.— March 1st. George
Gordon, son of John Byron, Esqr., and Catherine,
b. 22 inst."
This entry is obviously a blunder, 1 March having
been inserted by mistake for 29 Feb., the date of
Byron's birth (22 January, 1788) never having
been disputed. We may safely assume that the
poet was baptized 29 Feb. of that year, and that
the entry was made on the following day, 1 March.
In corroboration of Dallas's statement, I refer your
correspondent to Countess Guiccioli's book on
Byron, where it is stated that when Mrs. Byron
was obliged to return to England to be confined,
she was so far advanced in pregnancy that she
could not reach London, but gave birth to Lord
Byron at Dover. Under these circumstances the
propriety of affixing a mural tablet outside a shop
in Holies Street would seem to be somewhat
390
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doubtful. That Mrs. Byron and her boy resided
in that street in March, 1788, is tolerably certain,
but that Byron was actually born there may be
gravely disputed. Far be it from my intention to
throw cold water upon the laudable enthusiasm of
your correspondent and his coadjutors, but, in the
interests of historical accuracy, these facts should
be borne in mind. RICHARD EDGCUMBE.
83, Tedwortli Square, Chelsea.
My impression has always been that No. 24,
Holies Street was the house where Byron was
born ; Timbs, in his ' Curiosities of London,' says
" No. 24," as also does Peter Cunningham in his
1 London in 1853 ' (John Murray). To quote the
latter : " Lord Byron was born at No. 24, Holies
Street, Cavendish Square, where his mother was in
lodgings." The idea that No. 6 has any claim to
be the poet's birthplace is altogether new to me.
MR. GEO. JULIAN HARNEY (an old contributor to
' N. & Q.'), in an article on this very subject
which appeared in the Newcastle Weekly Chronicle,
17 April, says : —
" No. 24, Holies Street, the birthplace of Byron, is
now part and parcel of a new structure stretching to
Oxford Street, and having a large frontage on both
streets, in which the business of mercers and drapers is
carried on by Messrs. John Lewis & Co."
MR. BARNEY'S article, which is headed * Byron
Notes,' is both interesting and suggestive with
regard to the point raised by MR. CLARKE, who
will find himself referred to therein. All who are
interested in the matter should read it ; for MR.
HARNEY is a keen student of Byron, and has him-
self (as he shows in his article) endeavoured to
bring about the fixture of another tablet.
C. P. HALE.
There ought not to be a difficulty in ascertaining
the number of the house in Holies Street. In my
* Index Rerum ' I, a long time since, entered " born
at No. 24, Holies Street, Cavendish Square,
24 January, 1788." I have occasionally confirmed
the correctness of the entry by reference to autho-
rities of which I did not take account. It is possible
a notice of the fact appeared in the Gentleman's
Magazine of 1788. If I mistake not, there ap-
peared in the Illustrated London News a woodcut of
the present elevation of the house, of course in its
then aspect.
A curious mistake appears in the life of his lord-
ship by J. W. Lake, as a preface to the one- volume
edition of his works, Paris, Galignani, 1828,
wherein it is stated that he was born at Dover.
GEORGE WHITE.
Ashley House, Epsom.
In order that the committee of the Authors'
Olub may be furnished with the information com-
municated to ' N. & Q.' I forward references
thereto. The majority of correspondents are in
favour of 24, Holies Street, but one contributor
asserts that the original number was 16, sub-
sequently altered to 24. 1st S. ii. 410 ; 4tb S. iii.
108 ; 5«" S. ii. 268, 306 ; iii. 439 ; 7th S. tviii.
366 ; ix. 233, 275, 431 ; 8th S. i. 312.
The Standard, dated 24 and 28 Dec., 1888
contains letters in support of that house which
originally bore the tablet, not yet replaced.
EVERARD HOME COLEMAN.
71, Brecknock Road.
Miss FAIRBROTHER (8th S. xi. 267, 335).—
Louisa Fairbrother, not Farebrother, was principally
associated with Covent Garden Theatre from 1830
to 1843, with an interval from 1835 to 1837 at
Drury Lane Theatre. She never laid claim to
being a "celebrated actress," but lives in the
remembrance of old playgoers as a fair and graceful
dancer and a very popular columbine. Latterly
she aspired to speaking parts in extravaganza.
Her early art was fostered under the influence and
personal direction of Farley, an able pantomimist
in the best sense, and she shone in the ballet
when Duvernay, Ellar, Celeste, Leroux, and poor
Clara Webster were favourites at the footlights.
At Covent Garden Miss Fairbrother was the
"Younger Brother" in * Comus,' and Princess
Katarina in Planches 'White Cat,' and at the
Lyceum, during the Vestris management, Prince
Transimenus in the 'Golden Branch.' I think,
though I am not certain, that her stage career
closed about 1848. Mr. G. Fairbrother, of Exeter
Court, Strand, whose name figured on the Covent
Garden bills as printer in 1835 and subsequent
years, was, I believe, her father. ' Our Rambles
in Old London,' Sampson Low, 1895, p. 95, refers
to Miss Fairbrother's marriage at St. John's
Church, St. John's Square, Clerkenwell. There
is a lithograph portrait of Louisa Fairbrother as
columbine in Lane's * Theatrical Sketches,' 1839.
Evans's ' Catalogue of Engraved Portraits ' gives a
Robert Fairbrother, prompter at Drury Lane
Theatre, by P. Roberts. Louisa Fairbrother,
better known as Mrs. FitzGeorge, died 12 Jan.,
1890. SKY BORDER.
Playbills in my possession show that this lady was
at the Surrey Theatre in the years 1832, 1833, and
1834, during the proprietorship of Mr. Osbaldiston.
On 26 Dec., 1832, was produced a pantomime
called ' Valkyrse,' under the direction of Mr. B. S.
Fairbrother, the part of Columbine being assigned
to Miss Fairbrother. The bills bear the printer's
name, S. G. Fairbrother, Exeter Court, Strand.
J. T.
Eeckenham.
THE WEEPING INFANT (8th S. ix. 484 ; x. 140,
185). — I was about to write suggesting Sir William
Jones as the author of the beautiful lines quoted
by FATHER BLAIR at p. 140, when I saw that I
was forestalled by MR. PEET at the last reference,
8th 8. XI. MAT 15, '97.]
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391
I notice your correspondent styles Sir William Jones
"the famous Orientalist." But if the following story
told of him be correct, I doubt not that your readers
will consider a less imposing adjective more suit-
able.
It is related in a letter from Dr. Dick to Sir
Walter Scott, written in 1819, and appears at
p. 55 of the second volume of those charming
* Familiar Letters of Sir Walter Scott/ recently
published by David Douglas, of Edinburgh. The
writer is commenting on the comparison drawn
between Sir William and Dr. Leyden as a linguist.
He says : —
"I was acquainted with both When Sir William
arrived as judge in Calcutta a friend of mine who was a
very good Persian scholar was sitting with him when
some learned native gentlemen came in to pay their
respects to him. Sir William addressed them in Persian,
as he thought, and after some time one of them, in a
whisper to my friend, said. ' Tell Sir William that we do
not understand English, but we know that he is a learned
Persian, and I beg you will ask him to apeak to us in that
language.' My friend smiled, but did not chuse to
mortify the judge. Sir William was about a dozen years
in Bengal, where the Hindustanee is the only language
spoken by every class, and yet he never could speak a
sentence in it. Leyden spoke it well, and understood it
perfectly in leas than two years."
However, I think we must admit that, whatever
Sir William Jones's qualifications as a Persian lin-
guist may have been, he could render that language
into exquisite heroics. J. S. UDAL.
Fiji.
CARNATION (8** S. xi. 307).— This name was
originally given by our English herbalists to the
double clove gilliflower only. Thus Lyte says of
" garden Gillofers " that " the greatest and bravest
sorte of them are called Coronations, or Cornations";
Gerard, of the " Clove Gillofloure," that it " dif-
fereth from the Carnation but in greatnesse."
They both figure the flower as a double one, and
Gerard tells us that " these Gillofloures, especially
the Carnations, are kept in pots from the extremitie
of our cold winters." Thus, therefore, Perdita:—
The fairest flowers o' the season
Are our carnations and streak 'd gillyflowers,
Which some call nature's bastards ; of that kind
Our rustic garden 's barren.
The name, of course, has nothing to do with the
colour, but is due to the use of the flower in
coronals. Gerard had a yellow carnation in his
garden, which had been sent to him by a friend in
Poland. Parkinson, writing some years later,
enumerates forty-nine varieties. All our carna-
tions, however, come originally from the red clove
pink (Dianthus caryophyllus),vrhich gome botanists
have thought a native of Britain, though it is now
known to have been imported from the Continent.
0. 0. B.
The carnation was known in early times as a
species of gilliflower, Rembert Dodoens, io his
* Niewe Herball ; or, Historic of Plants,' London,
1578, chap. vii. p. 156, " Of Gillofers," says, " And
of some it is called Vetonicam altilem and Vetoni-
cam Coronariam : in English garden Gillofers,
Cloane gillofers, and the greatest and brauest sorte
of them are called Coronations or Cornations."
He also gives an engraving of the " Veronica altilis.
Carnations and the double cloaue Gillofers.'1
William Turner's 'Herbal,' Collen, 1561, under
" Of wilde Gelouer or Gelyfloure," states that " the
gardin Gelouers are made so pleasaunt and swete
with the labours and witt of man and not by
nature," but does not mention the name carnation.
The * De Historia Stirpium,' by Leonhart Fuchs,
Basle, 1542, chap, xxxii. p. 351, under "De Betonica
Altera," gives, " Alteria altilis est, quad alio nomine
Betonica seu Vetonica coronaria quod illius coronia
nimius usus sit dicitur." JOHN KADCLIFFE.
" VINE " = LEAD PENCIL (8th S. xi. 307).—
Possibly MB. WISE may remember in the " Waver-
ley Novels" the phrase "keelyvine pen" in the
same sense. The glossary explains it as " pencil
of black or red lead," keel being "ruddle, red
chalk "; and then adds in a parenthesis, keelyvein,
as if referring to the "vein of keel" running through
the cedar-wood of the pencil. I cannot say this
seems a likely derivation ; but I have no other to
give. At any rate, it is clear enough that " vine,"
being a North-Country phrase, is a shortened form
of the Scotch keelyvine, whatever that means.
0. F. S. WARREN, M.A.
Longford, Coventry.
See Jamieson's 'Scottish Dictionary : "Keeli-
vine, Jceelivine • pen. A blacklead pencil." ^The
word is still in common use in Scotland. Jamieson
gives the following amongst other quotations : —
" Black lead is called killow or collow in Cumberland,
and a guillivine-pen is probably a corruption of a fine
Mlow pencil."— Sir J. Sinclair's 'Obs.,' p. 120.
" Put up your pocket-book and your keelyvine pen then,
for I downa speak out an' ye hae writing materials in
your hands, they 're a scaur to unlearned folk like me." —
' Antiquary,' iii. 187.
Jamieson afterwards gives as suggested deriva-
tions the French cueill de vigne, a small slip of
the vine in which a piece of chalk, or something
of that kind, is inserted for the purpose of marking ;
also guille de vigne, from the French guille, a kind
of quill. Halliwell simply gives " Vine-pencil, a
blacklead pencil"; and " Keelyvine, a blacklead
pencil, North"; without any derivation or illus-
tration in either case. Wright exactly the same.
J. B. FLEMING.
Kelvinaide, Glasgow.
Throughout Scott's novels Jceelevine-pen is gener-
ally used by his Scotch characters to denote a lead
pencil. I do not know the etymology of the word
keelevine; but I should think it would not be
difficult to discover it. ,. Perhaps one of your clever
392
NOTES AND QUERIES. c»* a xi. MA, u/w.
readers will supply it. The word vine, referred to
by your correspondent, is evidently the stump of
Tceelevine. PATRICK MAXWELL.
Bath.
John Trotter Brookett, in his 'Glossary of North
Country Words,' gives the following definition :—
' Vine pencil, a blacklead pencil. Perhapa from the
ore being first embedded in vine, as it is now in cedar
wood.
This meaning has also been adopted by Halli-
well and Wright in their dictionaries of provincial
WOJ?S' EVEBARD HOME COLBMAN.
71, Brecknock Road.
This word, in its compound Jceelivine, is common
in Scotland. Sir John Sinclair (' Obs.,' p. 120) says
black lead is called killow or collow in Cumberland ;
and a guillivine-pen is probably a corruption of a
Jine Mlow pencil Jamieson, in his ' Dictionary '
inclines to think it is rather the vein of follow. Keel
in Scotland is the name of the red argillaceous
substance used for marking sheep :—
With kauk and keil I 'Jl win your bread.
Jamea V., • Qaberlunzie Man.'
A. G. REID.
Auchterarder.
HaWwell's « Provincial Dictionary ' gives vine-
pencil=}e&a pencil, but gives no indication where
the words are so used. D. M. E.
Contracted from Jceelyvine; W=lead, vine =
stick, or vein, of lead in the stick, is suggested.
THOMAS J. JEAKES.
HOLE HOUSE (8" S. xi. 148, 214, 313).— To
the instances already given of the locative use of
the word 'hole," perhaps Hole Haven, in the
estuary of the Thames ; Hockley-in-the-Hole, in
<Ieet valley, of eighteenth century repute (or
hsrepute) for bull-baiting, bear-baiting, prize-
fighting, and other varieties of spectacular pug-
nacity ; and Hole Town, Barbados, may be added.
E. G. CLAYTON.
.Richmond, Surrey.
1 THE GREATEST HAPPINESS OP THE GREATEST
iruMBEB " (8* S. xi. 347).-The following quota-
tion, which I make with the book before me, is
from Hutcheson's < Inquiry into the Original of
our Ideas of Beauty and Virtue ; in Two Treatises '
London, 1725, p. 164 :—
" That Action is lest, which accomplishes theareateit
Happiness for the greatest Numbers." 9
The words occur in "Treatise II., viz., An In-
quiry concerning the Original of our Ideas of
Virtue or Moral Good," the italics being the author's
own. The first edition was published anonymously
but in the third (1729) there is a dedication dated
1725, and signed "Francis Hutcheson.'' In this
Utter edition 'procures" appears instead of
accomphshes.'' The words attributed to Priestley
are in his ' Essay on Government,' published in
1768, which I have not seen ; but four years before
the date of Priestley's book an Italian rendering
was given by Beccaria in his 'Delitti e Pene,1
Monaco, 1764, p. 4 : "La massima felicitfc diviaa
nel maggior numero." For Bentham's words see
Bartlett's * Dictionary of Quotations,' which gives
the reference. J\ ADAMS.
106A, Albany Boad, CamberweU.
Dr. Whewell, in his lectures on the * History
of Moral Philosophy,1 Cambridge, 1862, p. 205,
writes : —
" Dr. Priestley published hig « Essay on Government '
in 1768. He then introduced in italics, as the only
reasonable and proper object of government, the greatest
happiness of the greatest number. Mr. Bentham fell ia
with this book at ' a little circulating library belongin"
to a little coffee-house ' close to Queens' College,,. ...Bent"
ham himself pointed out other previous writers in whom
expressions and thoughts very similar occur."
T. WILSON.
Hutcheson was certainly the author of the
"greatest happiness " maxim. Priestley was born
eight years and Bentham twenty-three years after
Hutcheson formulated it. I have not Hutcheson
in an original edition, but the passage is thus given
in Selby-Bigge's 'British Moralists,' 1897, i. 107,
from Hutcheson, « Moral Good and Evil,1 edit.
1726, sect. Hi. chap. ix. : "That Action is best,
which procures the greatest Happiness for the
greatest Numbers [sic], and that, worst, which, in
like manner, occasions Misery."
The first edition of the * Inquiry concerning
Moral Good and Evil' was published in 1725, and
the second in 1726. The latter is that used by
Selby-Bigge. 0. E. DOBLE. '
Bartlett, 'Familiar Quotations/ Author's Edition,
Routledge, n.d., p. 338, gives it from Bentbam,
Works,' x. 142. Bentham says it was Priestley's
phrase ^unless it was Beccaria," and a note says it
occurs in Beccaria, introduction to 'Essay on
Crimes and Punishments.' W. 0. B.
[Beccaria ' Dei Delitte e delle Pene ' was published in
1764, arid its English translation in 1766 j so that his use
of the phrase was forty years later than Hutcheeon's.—
J. A. H. M.]
"WARTA"=WORK-DAY (8«> S. xi. 324).— -As
stress is laid upon the orthography of this word,
it should be pointed out that in South Lancashire
and along the adjacent border of Yorkshire it is
invariably spelt warty, and pronounced to rhyme
with hearty. ARTHUR MATALL.
The word used on Tyneside is warda. E. B.
MRS. PENOBSCOT (8th S. x. 135, 260, 325, 381,
442).— Since my previous communication I have
seen a copy of Mr. Chute's * History of the Vyne
[Family] in Hampshire,' and a glance through its
i ndex reveals Popham, a name great in the annals
8. XI. MAT 15, '97.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
393
of the State of Maine. In the ' Memorial Volume
of the Popham Celebration, 29 August, 1862,
commemorative of the Planting of the Popham
Colony on the Peninsula of Sabino, 19 August,
O.S., 1607, establishing the Title of England to
the [American] Continent, edited by Edward
Ballard, 1 vol., 8vo., Portland, Maine, 1863, the
following toasts are printed : —
"The Memory of George Popham, who led hither the
first English Colony, became the head of its govern-
ment, by the election of his companions, and left his
bones to mingle with the soil of New England, upon the
Peninsula of Sabino."
"Henry Wriothesley, Earl of Southampton, — patron
of letters and of American Colonization; the friend and
associate of Sir Ferdinando Gorges ; whose joint labors
procured the Royal Charter of 10 April, 1606, the basis
on which rests the title of our race to the New World."
"Sir John Popham, — the able, learned, and upright
Chief Justice of England, by the appointment of Eliza-
beth, under the shadow of whose great name was laid
the foundation of the Colossal Empire of the Western
World."
44 Richard Vines,— the faithful friend of Sir Fer-
dinando Georges, whose occupation of the country, to
the time of his appointment as Deputy Governor of the
' Province of Mayne ' in 1644, upheld the title of his
nation against the French, and saved New England to
his country."
Perhaps all this may help COL. PRIDEAUX to
identify the portrait of the unknown lady, who
in life might have been either the wife of the
above Richard Vines or his mother. COL.
PRIDEAUX'S query is an interesting one, and the
fruits of it should be given to the scholars of
Maine, the State which claims to be the mother-
ground of New England civilization, judging by
the raised words found inscribed on a stone within
its borders, carved by the Maine Historical
Society : —
The First Colony
On the Shores of New England
Was Founded Here,
August 19th, O.S. 1607,
under
George Popham.
Another inscription reads : —
In Memoriam
Georgii Popham
Aneliae qui primus ab oris
Coloniam collocavit in Nov. Angliae Terria
Augustimense annoque HDOVII,
Leges literasque Auglicanas
Et fidem ecclesiamque Christi
In has sylvas duxit.
Solus ex colonia atque senex obiit
Nonis Februariis sequentibus
Et juxta hunc locum est aepultus.
George Popham and Sir John Popham were
brothers springing from Popham in Hampshire.
MASCONOMO-PASSACONAWAY.
CHELMSFORD MURDER (8th S. xi. 267).— The
verses wanted are printed in * Homespun Yarns,'
by Edwin Coller, published by J. & E. Maxwell,
no date. From the gush and tawdry sentiment of
these " yarns," they were evidently intended for
music-halls. Readers of them will be reminded of
Anstey's series of verses for reciters which a little
while ago appeared in Punch ; only they will be
apt to think that Goner's are the parodies, and
Anstey's the originals. I believe this murder has
formed the basis of a play, and it reads very much
like a development of the old ohap-book * Mary,
the Maid of the Inn.1 R. R.
Boston, Lincolnshire,
ST. MARGARET'S CHURCH AND ROBERT Low»
LORD SHERBROOKB (8th S. xi. 304).— It may seem
presumption to question the Latinity of the late
Earl of Selborne j but I ask whether there is any
classical authority for "pars" in the sense of
"party" or " faction." Lord Selborne has used
it in this sense in the line, " Patriam favori partium
semper praeposuit." Would not '* factionum "
have been a better word ? " Factio optimatum,"
(< factio popularis," &c, , are classical expressions,
R. M. SPENCK, M.A,
Manse of Arbuthnott, N.B.
THE DEATH OP Miss ROSA BATHURST (8lh S.
xi. 266, 299). — The poem of six seven-line stanzas,
by the Baron Alessandro Poerio (b. 1804, d. 1848),
entitled *In Morte di una Giovinetta Inglese
caduta nel Tevere,' and written at the age of
twenty, is contained in 'Poesie di Alessandro
Pierio, per Mariano D'Ayala' (Pirenze, 1852),
pp. 75-6, as well as in Louisa A. Merivale's ' I
Poeti Italian! Modern!' (Lond., 1865), pp. 380-2 ;
and it doubtless refers, as suggested by an editorial
note in the latter work, to the melancholy end of
Miss Rosa Bathurst, who appears to have been
accidentally drowned in the Tiber, May, 1824,
being then in her nineteenth year and much cele-
brated for her beauty. She was the elder of the
two daughters of Benjamin Bathurst, Esq., by
Phillida (or Philadelphia), eldest daughter of Sir
John Call, of Whiteford, co. Cornwall, Bart.,
at whose house in Manchester Square, London,
they were married 25 May, 1805 ; and was bora
30 March, 1806. Her sister was Emma (or
Emmeline), who married first, in February, 1830,
Edward, third Earl of Castle-Stuart (who died
s.p. 20 February, 1857), and secondly, 27 June,
1867, Signor Alessandro Pistocchi. The father
was third son of Dr. Henry Bathurst, Bishop of
Norwich (who died 5 April, 1837), by Grace,
only daughter of the Very Rev. Charles Coote,
D.D., Dean of Kilfenore ; born in London,
14 March, 1784 ; matriculated at Oxford from
New College (of which he was Fellow), 4 Novem-
ber, 1799, B.A. 1803. He was appointed,
1 March, 1805, Secretary of Legation to the Court
of Stockholm, and in the spring of 1809 by Lord
Mulgrave, at Lord Bathurst's request, Envoy-
Extraordinary on an important secret mission to
the Court of Vienna. On returning to England
394
NOTES AND QUERIES. [8-s.xi.iiAT 15, •».
about 25 November of that year with important
despatches, he left Berlin with passports from the
Prussian Government and travelled towards Ham-
burg without a servant. On the way he die-
appeared, the only clue to his fate being his
pantaloons, found at Perleberg with a letter in the
pocket for his wife. His death has been attri-
buted to suicide while suffering from the delirium
of a fever ; but the prevailing idea was that he
was murdered by French soldiers for the sake of
his despatches, and the Prussian Government
offered a large reward for the discovery of his
body. His sorrowing widow also, in company
with her brother, Mr. George Call, and two ser-
vants, spent the four months from 25 May to 29
September, 1810, in travelling to and from various
places on the Continent in order, if possible, to
discover his fate, but, despite every effort, met
with little success, and his death is still a mystery.
A transcript of her interesting unpublished
journal of such travels, addressed to her two
infant daughters (as above), is in my possession,
and not only throws much further light on the
subject than is contained in the copious references
thereto in the ' Memoirs and Correspondence of
Bishop Bathurst,' 1853 (chap. vii. pp. 539 seg.),
but is also valuable for its numerous references
at that important period to Napoleon I., of whom,
by the way, it may be stated that Mrs. Bathurst
entertained a very high opinion. This journal
appears to have been unknown to the husband's
sister, Mrs. Thistlethwayte, the author of the
'Memoirs' as above. Mrs. Bathurst died at
Lucca, in Italy. 17 September. 1855.
W. I. E. V.
CANON DRIVER, ON USURY (8th S. xi. 286).—-
The description of interest as " something bitten
off the sum lent," is at least applicable to the
modern practice indulged in by money-lenders of
deducting a preliminary discount from the amount
of the loan. Readers of « The Three Clerks ' will
remember how it is done.
EDWARD H. MARSHALL, M.A.
HANASTER (7th S. xii. 128, 211).— Dr. Bos-
worth's derivation of this word from hansa and
• estre is hardly vraisembldble ; though it seems
clear that, as a matter of fact, the hanaster was
a member of the gild merchant, which was some-
times called the hanse. Is there any evidence of
the name being used out of Oxford ? Q. V.
SIR EDWARD LITTLETON, KNT., 1645 (8th S. xi.
327). — I cannot trace any knight of this name living
in 1645, but would suggest that the entry of burial at
St. Sepulchre's, Northampton, refers to Sir Edward
Littleton, Knt. and Bart., of Pillaton Hall, Staf-
fordshire. In all pedigrees of this family the date
of death of the first baronet is wanting. Sir Edward
was a devoted Royalist and M.P. for Staffordshire
in the Long Parliament. The latest parliamentary
reference to him seems to be in 1644, when he
deserted the Parliament of Westminster for that
of Oxford. According to the ' Calendar of the
Committee for Compounding,' he had previously
conveyed his estate to trustees, who, when the
same was subsequently seized by Parliament and
ordered to be sold, ineffectually sought to have the
sale stayed. It appears, however, that a fine of
1,347Z. was eventually accepted. Apropos of this
query, I would ask, Who was the " Sir Edward
Littleton, of Ferant, co. Montgomery, Bart.," to.
whose relicit, Dame Katherine, adminstration was.
granted 6 Feb., 1657/8? W. D. PINK.
Leigh, Lancashire.
THB SPANISH ARMADA (8th S. xi. 328).— In
Maitland's ' History and Survey of London,' 1756,
p. 165, I find the reliques which were preserved
in the Tower of London of the memorable victory
of the defeat of the Spanish Armada, together
with some other curiosities of the like kind, were
in all twenty-two. Of No. 6 there is the following
description : —
"The banner with a crucifix upon it, which was to
have been carried before the Spanish General. On it is
engraved the Pope's benediction before the Spanish
Fleet sailed ; for the Pope's Nuncio came to the water
side, and on seeing the fleet, blessed it, and, as has been
said, stiled it ' Invincible.' '
EVERARD HOME COLEMAN.
71, Brecknock Road.
"MALIGNA LUX" (8"> S. xi. 264, 318).— The
lines before and after seem to show that maligna
means "scanty," and not "unkindly." They
indicate insufficiency of light : —
Ibant obscuri sola sub nocte per umbram,
Perque domoa Ditis vacuas, et inania regna.
Quale per incertam Lunam sub luce maligna
Eat iter in silvis t ubi ccelum condidit umbra
Jupiter, et rebus nox abstulit atra colorem.
'^Eneid,' bk. vi. 11. 268-272.
E. YARDLBT.
CHURCH TOWER BUTTRESSES (8tb S. x. 494 ; xi.
51, 136, 318). — MR. HARRY HEMS says this dis-
cussion has taken a singular turn ; it is certainly
to me one that is most interesting. I never before
saw buttresses to towers properly alluded to as
" abominations " nor so justly stigmatized in any
architectural book. That they are ugly and un-
sightly in the extreme I should think nobody would
deny. No books I have (Bloxam, Fergusson,
Milner, Parker, Rickman, &c.) give what I have
been informed are the attributes of a good Gothic
tower, viz., no exterior buttresses, no ornament
below, no large windows below, no clock faces.
So strong has been the feeling of some of our
architects on this latter point, that they have often
had fights about it, and Sir Gilbert Scott for-
tunately beat the vestrymen of St. Mary Abbot's,
Kensington, and now that tower is a delightful
instance of the best work he could do. Just
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
395
before he died he build a pretty little church at
Bath, as usual without clock faces to the tower. It
will hardly be believed that since the " church-
wardens " (I cannot use a term of greater abuse
when applied to false Gothic) have put gilt iron
clock faces on the tower. No doubt they have the
hideous authority of Canterbury Cathedral for so
doing. Many other cathedrals have already got
rid of these excrescences of the eighteenth century.
The great marvel to me is that nearly all our
modern towers are buttressed, in spite of the ex-
ample of Magdalen College and many others.
RALPH THOMAS.
The term " English abominations " was applied
by me rather to towers of the present century than
to any mediaeval ones. Nevertheless, those with
such bold buttresses as at Mechlin, and especially
Paris, retaining nearly their full projection to the
tower's top, were out of place for towers, and are
hardly found, I believe, further from England than
Bourges. Londoners can see an example of how
much shadow and dignity are producible without
buttresses at St. George's, Bloomsbury. The
most glaring English fault has always been, as
Buskin said, the buttresses diminishing to almost
nothing at about half the tower's height, and
seeming to uphold it like a child in the nurse's
arms. Truly the earliest I can find is not English,
being the Abbaye aux Dames, Caen ; but the
French seem to have soon rejected this effect;
while here it increased (together with miniature
buttressets as ornaments, almost exclusively Eng-
lish), till now, under " Mr. Five-per-cent," as the
Athenaeum says it becomes universal. No foreign
towers with buttresses have them half so much
reduced upward as those of York or Canterbury.
Now Wren, by avoiding buttresses to any of his
towers that were really new, especially at West-
minster, made that pair on the whole, I think, the
best in England, unless at Lichfield (which are
also buttressless), if we knock away the finishings
over the cornices, which are not Wren's, but some
' Mr. Five-per-cent's," like the balustrades on St.
Paul's, after Wren was dismissed.
E. L. GARBETT.
SWINTON (8th S. xi. 329). —In reply to MR.
WHITE, Scotch history invariably states that
Margory, daughter of Eobert the Bruce, married
Walter, the high steward, whose son ascended the
throne as Robert II. There is no known portrait
of the John Swinton who lived in the middle of
the seventeenth century. R. B. S.
If MR. WHITE will write to Miss Swinton,
Tregunter Lodge, Gilston Road, South Kensington,
she will probably be able to give the information
asked for ? WILLIAM ST. GLAIR.
"RUMMER" (8th S. x. 452 ; xi. 270).—! do not
BUggeat that Thcophile Gautier invented this
word. My object in sending the quotation was to
draw attention to the use of the word by a modern
French author, and to obtain, if possible, an ex-
planation of PROF. SKEAT'S conjectural derivation
of the word from the Rb'uaer at Frankfort-on-Main.
I have not been able to find from the text-books
when the group of buildings at Frankfort-on-Main
was commenced, but it appears that it was purchased
by the Municipality for a town hall in 1405-6,
when Friedrich Kooigshofen built the lower halls, or
Hallen-unter-dem-Romer. The town hall was not
completed as it stands at present before 1 740, and
was renovated (restored ?) in 1840, (* Diet. Arch.,'
iii. 89, and Passavant, ' Kunstreise durch England
und Belgium,' 1833, p. 433.) There is noRomer-
saal, the correct name of the building being the
Rb'mer. Roumi, or Romans, is the name applied
to Christians by the Berbers, or aborigines of the
Barbary States. JOHN HEBB.
Willesden Green, N.W.
THE "BARQHEST" (8th S. xi. 185, 334).—
Keightley, in one part of his book, says that Robin
Goodfellow " seems to unite in his person the
Boggart and Barguest of Yorkshire"; and Robin
Goodfellow is thought to have been seen lying
before the fire in the shape of a bear. Ghosts and
fairies are sometimes confounded ; and the follow-
ing lines show that a ghost may have the form of
a bear : —
Sad spirits, summoned from the tomb,
Glide, glaring ghastly though the gloom,
In all the usual pomp of storms,
In horrid customary forme,
A wolf, a bear, a horse, an ape,
As fear and fancy give them shape.
Churchill, ' The Ghost,' bk. i.
There is a spectre hound. There may be also a
bear-ghost. The word bug-bear may be the same
as Puck-bear. E. YARDLEY.
" INVULTATION » (8tt S. xi. 107, 236, 314).—
Two curious examples of this practice are recorded
by Mr. Francis Hindes Groome in his ' In Gipsy
Tents/ second edition, pp. 13, 14. In the one the
image is replaced by a " red cloth rag," in the
other by a "toad." The one is to be burnt,
the other buried. The one will "hurt" your
enemy ; the other, if properly carried out, will
make him mad, otherwise it will make you mad, as
it does the operator in the case cited. I have been
told of a calf's heart being similarly treated with
pins and hung behind the house door in Devon-
shire in exorcism of the dreaded ubiquitous witch.
THOMAS J. JEAKES.
THE LONGEST WORDS IN THE ENGLISH LAN-
GUAGE (8tb S. xi. 204, 297).-— I once heard at a
political meeting a speaker describe another as an
advocate of " disestablishmentarianism." This
word contains twenty-four letters, or one more
than " anthropomorphologically," which DR.
396
NOTES AND QUERIES.
s. xi. MAY 15, '97.
MURRAY gives as the longest word that has as yet
appeared in the * New English Dictionary.'
ALFRED F. BOBBINS.
For " anthropomorphologically " good authority
is available; <(deanthropomorpbization" is less
well supported and is better written "deantbro-
poraorphism.'' For these words see Funk &
Wagnalls's * Standard Dictionary.' S. G. D.
The two words given by DR. MURRAY are
appalling. But while puzzling over this very ques-
tion a few years since I found two other words
equally long. They are as follows : " undenomina-
tionalistic" and "incomprehensibilities."
R. DENNY URLIN.
Grosvenor Club.
"ALTAR GATES" (&* S. xi. 308).—! believe
that the gates in the chancel screens of mediaeval
churches were not, as a rule, made to fasten, and
that in many instances they were so constructed
as to close at an angle, with its apex towards the
altar, in such a manner that they opened by mere
contact with the person of the cross-bearer heading
the procession to the chancel before High Mass.
A gentleman of this town, who had shortly before
visited Combmartin Church, received from the
sexton the same explanation as that quoted by
Miss Marie Corelli, and asked me whether I was
aware of any Catholic tradition in support of the
old man's statement. I was obliged to reply in
the negative ; but the idea of the chancel gates
symbolizing the ever-open portals of heaven strikes
one as genuinely mediaeval — " smells of the in-
cense," in fact, as we say of plain chant or good
stained glass. I should not be surprised to learn
that the sexton was the depositary of a real bit of
Catholic folk-lore. JOHN HOBSON MATTHEWS.
Town Hall, Cardiff.
"HALIFAX SHILLING" (8th S. xi. 128).— The
name "Halifax shilling" in all probability was
a local one. I think it must have been either the
Bank token for Is. 6d. (exceptionally issued by the
Bank of England), struck in 1814, value Is. 2d.,
or the quarter dollar, issued in 1822 for Jamaica,
value Is. Ofd.
The arms on the Yorkshire halfpenny are those
of the Cutlers' Company : Gules, three pair of
swords in saltire argent, hilts and pommels or,
viz., two pair in chief and one in base. Crest : An
elephant's head couped gules, armed or.
"The striking of provincial coins and tradesmen's
tokens, which was suggested and in some degree justified
by the disgraceful state of the copper coinage, began
with the Anglesey penny in 1784, arid from that time
increased rapidly, until they were superseded by an
issue of lawful coins in the year 1797.''— Ruding'e
1 Annals of the Coinage of Great Britain,' vol. ii. p. 93.
JOHN RADCLIFFE.
The "Yorkshire halfpenny" is thus described
by the late Llewelly nn Jewitt in his paper on ' The
Traders' Tokens of Sheffield' : Obv., "Yorkshire
Halfpenny," 1793 ; bust, in hat and wig, to the
right. Rev., "Payable in Sheffield"; the arms
and crest of the Cutlers' Company. This copper
token was issued by John H*nd, who, according
to the * Sheffield Directory ' for 1797, was at that
time a " steel scissor case maker " at 7, Copper
Street, Sheffield. W. J. J. GLASSBY.
Binfield Road, Sheffield.
THE WILL OF KING HENRY VI, : CHARE-ROOF
(8th S. x. 253, 401; xi. 74, 192, 355).— Since
writing my note, I have recollected that there is
a roof well known in the architectural world as a
" waggon-roof." It struck me Prof. Skeat might
make some allusion to this, and on consult-
ing his dictionary under the word " waggon," I
found he gives " wain " and " wainscot " as con-
nected (Dutch wagen). And he explains wainscot
as
" panelled boards on walls. Low G. wagenschot, the
best kind of oak-wood. The original sense seems to have
been thin boarding for a vehicle It came to mean
boards of the best quality for panel- work, oak -panelling,
wainscot in general."
I then looked into Cotgrave's ' French Diet.,'
1632, for char, to see if it gave any other meaning
than cart, and found this definition : "A carre,
waggon, wayne or chariot." There is little doubt,
then, that "chare-roof" and "waggon-roof" were
the same, and meant a roof panelled or covered
inside with wood. Char, the French for waggon,
may easily have been written in the will instead of
the English word in those transitional times. If I
had consulted Prof. Skeat's invaluable dictionary
earlier my last note would have been more to the
point.
R. R.
Boston, Lincolnshire.
P. S. — Since I wrote the above, I find " waggon-
roof " has been suggested by an earlier correspond-
ent ; but I bad totally forgotten it, and " waggon-
roofs " were really explained to me by my son, in
a conversation about my note.
BEVIS DE HAMPTON (8tb S. xi. 207, 258).— Thete
is a romance called * Bevis of Hampton,' which
was several times issued in black letter by our
early printers. A list of the editions, or some of
them, is given in Bonn's Lowndes's ' Bibliographer's
Manual.' Copies of this book seem to be very
uncommon.
EDWARD PEACOCK.
EARLS OF DERWENTWATER (8tb S. xi. 208,
276, 332). — Allow me to refer your correspond-
ents to an article by me at 5th S. ii. 486,
giving an account of the reinterment of the
Earls of Derwentwater and several members of
the Radcliffe family. Five coffins at that time
removed from the vault in the little chapel of
Dilston were reinterred in the Roman Catholic
burial-ground at Hexham, whilst the sixth, con-
8«» 8. XI. MAT 15, '97.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
397
taining the remains of James, the third and last
Earl of Derwentwater, were taken to Thorndon, in
Essex, and reinterred in the vault of Lord Petre.
The reason for this was probably that Robert
James, eighth Baron Petre, married in 1732 Lady
Anne Radcliffe, the only daughter of the earl.
The little article by me reprinted an interesting
cutting from the Times, giving an account of the
burial, which took place on 9 October, 1874.
Dilston is a township in Northumberland in the
large parish of Oorbridge, three miles from Hex-
ham, and was the ancient seat of the Radcliffes.
In Howitt's * Visits to Remarkable Places,' vol. ii.
p. 578 et seq., is a long and interesting account of
Dilston Hall, illustrated by four small engravings,
one representing the hall in 1616 ; another, the
gateway ; a third, the little chapel ; and a fourth
depicts the vault underneath, containing six
coffins : those of Francis, first Earl of Derwent-
water, who died in 1696, aged seventy-two ; Ed-
ward, second Earl, who died in 1705, aged fifty ;
Francis Radcliffe, who died in 1704, aged forty-
eight ; Barbara Radcliffe, who died in 1696 ; Lady
Mary Radcliffe, daughter of the first earl, who
died in 1726 ; and James, the last earl, who died
in 1716. As before mentioned, five were re-
interred at Hexham, but the remains of the last
earl at Thorndon. The pretty ballad is printed
in the account called ' Der went water's Farewell,'
but no author's name is appended ; in fact, I
believe the name of the author is not known,
though it has been attributed to James Hogg, the
Ettrick Shepherd.
There is an interesting paper, entitled ' The Last
of the Derwentwaters,' read before the Keswick
Literary Society by J. Fisher Crosthwaite on
2 February, 1874, which contains several illustra-
tions, one in particular of the " Ratclif Brass in
Crosthwaite Church, A.D. 1527," representing "Sir
John Ratclif, Knyght, and Dame Alice, his wife."
Above are the arms of Radcliffe, Argent, a bend
engrailed sable, and Sutton incised. There are
also portraits in the pamphlet of the Earl of
Derwentwater and his brother Charles Radcliffe.
JOHN PICKFORD, M.A.
AUTHOR OF FABLE (8th S. xi. 328).— In reply
[ transcribe the form in which the fable appears in
Halm's edition of the ' Fabulse ./Esopicse,' Lips.,
Teubn., 1852, No. 110:—
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ED. MARSHALL.
This fable will be found in James's edition of
^Esop, with an illustration by Tenniel. I have
not a copy to refer to ; it was a favourite book of
my childhood, and has long ago gone the way of
all nursery-books. W. C. B.
'The Old Woman and her Maids' is in the
beautiful edition of ^Bsop, illustrated with etchings
by Francis Barlow, published in 1687, p. 75. It
' '' i
is also in Bewick's '-^op,' 1818, p. 35, and in
many other editions. ^Esop was a school-book
when I was a boy, and I yet have the copy I then
used. Has it since gone out of fashion and become
scarce, that we come to see questions asked about
it in * N. & Q.'? A book that used to be almost
as common as the * Pilgrim's Progress.' R. R.
Boston, Lincolnshire.
The fable of 'The Old Woman and her Maids'
(Tvvr) Kal GepdVaivai) is the seventy-seventh in
the Eton edition of ' JEsopi Fabulae.' It is one of
those which have been versified by La Fontaine
(' Fables,' livre v. No. 6). F. ADAMS.
Other replies are acknowledged.
THE SCOTS GREYS AT BLENHEIM (8th S. xi. 367).
— An examination of pictures of the battle of
Blenheim at the British Museum and at Blenheim
Palace shows a British cavalry regiment wearing
Grenadier caps, mitre shape in front, but standing
out at the back in a horn, with a tassel from the
point. T. S. G.
HAND OF GLORY : THIEVES' CANDLES (4tb S. ix.
238, 289, 376, 436, 455 ; x. 39 ; 8th S. x. 71, 455 ;
xi. 268). — In C. Niaard's * Bistoire des Livres
Populates,' first edition (Paris, 1854), Q. V. will
find (p. 204 et seq. of vol. i.), the description
which he desiderates quoted in full. Very inter-
esting and creepy it is, but too long, I think, for
insertion in ' N. & Q.' Nisard reproduces a queer
old cut representing the ghastly hand with its
candle. According to " Little Albert," three male-
factors, under torture, described the mode of
preparation, and upon being further pressed to
reveal a potent counter-charm, —
"ila dirent quo la main de gloire devenait sang effet,
et que lea voleurs ne pourraient e'en servir, si on frottait
le eeuil de la porte de la maison, ou lea autres, endroita
par oft ils peuvent entrer, avec un onguent compose du
fiel de chat noir, de graisse de poule blanche et du sang
de chouette, et qu'il fallait que cette confection fut faite
dans le temps de la canicule."
Nisard proceeds to quote the prescription given by
Cardanns for making a treasure-tracing candle
and its socket, and inserts a quaint facsimile en-
graving of them.
398
NOTES AND QUERIES. [8«s.xi. MAY 15/97.
Curiously enough, another contemporary case in
which a dead hand figures has just come to light,
and I take the particulars from the Syn Otetchestva
of 20 March, O.S. (second edition) : —
" At Lodz, Petrokof Government, there dwelt a young
artilleryman and bis betrothed. [I suppress their names,
though these are given.] Being very poor, they could
not scrape together enough money to get married. One
day, as they were musing gadly on their gloomy pro-
spects, the young man recalled that a rich uncle of his
was by some reputed to owe his wealth to a dead hand
which he possessed and guarded as the apple of his eye.
The impatient pair decided that they too must try the
efficacy of such a talisman. They accordingly took a
midnight stroll to the Evangelical Graveyard close by,
and compelled a recently buried youngster to literally
' lend them a hand ' in building their fortunes. The girl
carried their acquisition home, and concealed it mean-
while in a bundle of soiled linen, which, with a strange
forgetfulnese, she sent next day, hand and all, to the
wash. Hence detection and its unpleasant consequences.
The trial took place at Lodz on the 7/19 March, and the
Court, admitting popular superstition as an extenuating
circumstance, condemned the young man to a month's
and the girl to seven days' arrest."
It must be allowed that we have here a very
blurred and feeble reminiscence of the terrible hand
of glory. H. E. M.
St. Petersburg.
When I was a boy at school at Brighton, between
Midsummer 1859 and Michaelmas 1863, I saw at
the Museum at Lewes Castle a dried or mummied
hand, said to have been torn off in punishment or
torture. Can this have been used as a " hand of
glory"? THOMAS J. JEAKES.
GEOEGE III. SHILLING (8to S. xi. 308).—
* Magnss Britannise, Francise, et Hibernise Kex,
Fidei Defensor, Brunswiccise et Luneburgise Dux,
Sancti Romani Imperil Archi-Thesaurarius et
Elector." See *N. & Q. 'passim. No doubt it
is unlikely George III. held a licence in dental
surgery ; besides, how could the English S get into
a Latin style ? It would be 0, for chirurgia. Even
in jokes so horrible as this congruity should be
preserved. C. F. S. WARREN, M.A.
Longford, Coventry.
I decipher the letters thus : " Magnae Britannise,
Francise, et Hibernise Kex, Fidei Defensor,
Brunsvici et Lunseburgi Dux, Sancti Eomani
Imperil Archi-Thesaurarius et Elector." The
empty title to France was dropped in 1802.
F. ADAMS.
10oA, Albany Koad, Camberwell.
See Hawkins's ' Silver Coins of England,' p. 404.
M. B. F. et H. Rex, F. D., B. et L. D., S. R. I. A.
T. et E. means ' * Magni Britanniae, Francise, et
Hibernise Rex, Fidei Defensor, Brunsvicensis et
Lunenbergensis Dux, Sacri Romani Imperii Archi-
Thesaurarius et Elector." The part we are not
familiar with forms the German titles of the first
three kings of the Hanoverian line, viz., Duke
of Brunswick and Liineburg and Arch-Treasurer
of the Holy Roman Empire. W. T. LYNN.
LANCASHIRE CUSTOMS (8tl! S. xi. 285). — I have
seen within the last forty years one of the old
customs named by Miss PEACOCK'S informant
practised in the town of Wigan. I refer to that
of Catholic funeral processions halting for a short
time for prayer at a roadside cross. I think the
last one I remember was on the occasion of my
grandfather's funeral, about 1853, when the coffin
being laid upon the bier beside Mab's Cross, the
mourners and friends knelt upon the ground for a
few moments for prayer, afterwards resuming the
procession to the churchyard for interment. A.
Some of the same customs which Miss PEACOCK
describes as marking the Lancashire rustics sixty
years since prevailed also in my native Essex. I
weil remember that the old men used to " stroke
their right hands over their brows " and the old
women to drop curtseys on entering our parish
church, while, if not a "churchwarden," at all
events, a village schoolmaster " used to peram-
bulate the aisles with a white wand in his hand
during the service to awaken sleepers "; and I well
remember the noise of the blows of the said wand
on the heads of the boys being frequently "heard
through the church." E. WALFORD.
AUTHORS OF QUOTATIONS WANTED (8tto S. xi.
309).—
The hare shall kindle on the cold hearth-stone.
This is one of the prophecies attributed to Thomas the
Rhymer, and, according to Harl. MS. 2253, fol. 127,
col. 2, describes the desolation that would prevail ere
the Anglo- Scottish war came to an end. The Countess
of Dunbar, it is said, asked Thomas of Erceldoune when
the Scottish war would have an end, and he answered,
among other eventualities,
When hares kendles obe herston.
(See 'Thomas of Erceldoune,' E.E.T.S,, pp. xviii,
Ixxxvi ; also Scott's ' Minstrelsy of the Scottish Border,'
ed. 1861, iv. 130.) To quote from the last-cited work
(p. 133) :—
" Among various rhymes of prophetic import, which
are at this day current amongst the people of Teviotdale,
is one, supposed to be pronounced by Thomas the Rhymer,
presaging the destruction of his habitation and family :
The hare sail kittle on my hearth stane,
And there will never be a Laird Learmont again."
The prophecy of Waldhave says inaccurately,
That the Hare shal hirpil on the hard stones.
(See 'Thomas/ u.s., p. xxxviii; also 'Minstrelsy,' u.s.,
p. 133.) F. ADAMS.
NOTES ON BOOKS, &o.
The Flight of the King. By Allan Fea. (Lane.)
FEW events appeal more generally and directly to the
sentiment of romance than do the flight and hair-
breadth escapes of the fugitive monarchs or princes of
the house of Stuart, In the case of Prince Charlie there
8» S. XI. MAT 15, W.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
399
ia room for doubt whether the Court of St. James's,
severe as it showed itself to the followers of the Pre-
tenders, was wholly dissatisfied with the news that the
Prince himself was in safety. All otherwise was it with
Charles II.. whose flight and escape after the crowning
disaster at Worcester Mr. Allan Pea has undertaken to
retrace and narrate. Had Cromwell himself been merci-
fully inclined — a supposition not easily to be nursed or
rashly to be hazarded — his adherents would have seen
proof of nothing but weakness in his leniency, and would
have been apt enough to take the administration of the
law into their own hands. Sufficiently real were, accord-
ingly, the dangers which beset Charles in his difficult
and devious course from Worcester to Shorebam. The
aim of Mr. Fea, in the handsome and attractively and
amply illustrated volume we owe to Mr. John Lane, has
been twofold. He has told again the story of the escape,
sifting what is inaccurate or unproven from what is
trustworthy, and supplying a second consecutive narra-
tive from contemporary pamphlets not included in
Hughes's ' Boscobel Tracts,' and intended to serve as a
supplement to that compilation. Further, he has, " with
a purely historical aim," illustrated step by step, by pen
and pencil, the progress to the Sussex coast, exhibit-
ing the present condition or fate of the houses in which
the fugitive found shelter. In this attempt he has gone
not only to known and authentic sources, but to " family
and local traditions not hitherto recorded in a collective
form." That changes enough have been effected, during
a period of close upon two centuries and a half, upon the
spots now revisited and depicted will be easily believed.
Still, the transformations that have been made, consider-
able as these are, are less than might have been expected.
Cultivation, roads, railways, and the like have altered
to some extent the aspect of the country. Its main fea-
tures are, however, undisturbed. No such processes of
destruction and change of environment as constantly
transform the vicinage of great cities are apparent in
pastoral England, and there are yet some spots that
might recall to Charles his flight could his shade revisit
them. In Worcester itself— the "Faithful City"— the
house in which the king lodged before the battle, though
shorn of its dimensions, retains its former physiognomy.
Of the ancient Cistercian monastery at Whiteladies,
where the retreating cavaliers, the king in their midst,
first drew rein, the ruins survive, though of the quaint
half-timbered and far more modern edifice formerly
attached to them no vestige is left. The cottage at
Madeley, but little altered since Charles's time, is repro-
duced, with the adjacent old barn and the orchard. So
we pass on to Boscobel and the Royal Oak, and so
forward to spot after spot of historic or romantic interest,
sure now to be revisited. A portion of tbe ground
covered at the outset by Mr. Fea has already been
traced by Cuthbert Bede, and those interested in the
subject, and in Jane and Mary Lane, will find abundant
material in 'N. & Q.,' especially in the Fourth Series.
Of Jane Lane several portraits are reproduced, those
from paintings showing her as a singularly handsome
woman. A contemporary print, in tbe possession of
Mr. Fea, presents her riding pillion behind the king.
Mary Lane is less striking in appearance, but has a
very pleasing and winsome expression. Long, indeed,
would be the list of all the scenes and objects repro-
duced in this most attractive volume. A useful feature
in it is the exposure of the erroneous traditions con-
cerning Charles's escape. These are very numerous.
As is known to readers of ' N. & Q.,' very many spots
wholly out of the line of flight now known still retain
traditions concerning the monarch, who is supposed to
have been so near London as Rickraansworth. Spots
in which the king is reported to have hidden are
still shown the unsuspecting traveller. In addition to
its valuable letterpress and its attractive illustrations
tbe volume has many interesting pedigrees. In its class,
it is one of the ablest and most trustworthy as well aa
one of the most entertaining of records.
Francis Orpen Morris. A Memoir. By his Son, the
Rev. M. C. F. Morris, B.C.L. (Nimmo.)
To those— and they are fortunately many — to whom
appeals the calm, uneventful life of a country clergy-
man who is also a naturalist, an observer, and, to gome
extent, a controversialist, this life of the Rev. Francis
Orpen Morris, by his son and successor as rector of Nun-
burnholme, may be warmly commended. The author of
' A History of British Birds ' and many other works on
natural history will always maintain a worthy place in
literary history, and the first champion of the, as yet, im-
perfectly developed measures for the preservation of bird
life must always be dear to the humanitarian. Morris's
complete rejection of the Darwinian theory was sincere
as it could be, and won him the respect of many men
of intellect and influence, to whom his rooted anta-
gonism to vivisection would also commend him. Very
considerable is the amount of his literary baggage, and
he is, on the whole, a more important personage than
those who read of his deeds and ministrations will be apt
to believe. His influence on those around him was
wholly for good, and he is one of tbe men who left the
world better than they found it. For these and other
reasons this pious and modest life by his son is welcome.
To the naturalist the memoir makes most direct appeal ;
but most, except the inflexible scientist, can read the
work with interest, and even with advantage. It is got
up with the luxury and taste to which Mr. Nimmo has
accustomed the public.
Natural History in Shakespeare's Time. By H. W.
Seager, M.B. (Stock.)
How strange views concerning natural history were held
in Shakspeare's time and subsequently is known to the
readers of the * Pseudodoxia Epidemica ' of Sir Thomas
Browne, and, indeed, to all students of Tudor literature.
A happy idea has been well carried out by Mr. Seager in
collecting excerpts from writers of, principally, the six-
teenth century, and supplying us with a work, part
commonplace book, part cyclopaedia, concerning the
fauna and flora of early England. That Shakspeare
entertained some of tbe strange beliefs herein recorded
is certain ; that he disputed many of them — in spite of
the fact, on which Mr. Seager insists, that his know-
ledge of natural history was far greater than that of his
contemporaries — is not certain. Passages from Shak-
speare are affixed to very many of the extracts, and others
from his fellow dramatists or poets— Dekker, Middleton,
Nash, Harington, &c. — are also supplied. A list of the
books from which extracts are principally taken is pre-
fixed. It includes Bartholomew ' De Proprietatibus
Rerum,' the popular authority of tbe day ; the ' Hortus
Sanitatis '; Topsell's ' History of Four-footed Beasts and
Serpents and [T. Mouffet's] Theater of Insects '; Holland's
Pliny; Harrisons ' Description of Britain'; the herbals
of Gerarde and Parkinson ; Lupton's ' A Thousand
Notable Things '; and other books with which the anti-
quary ig familiar. An important addition to the value
of the book is made by the reproduction of the quaint
and marvellous designs in which our ancestors showed
their knowledge or ignorance of the fauna of distant
countries, and of imaginary or mythical creatures, such as
the basilisk, dragon, mandrake, barnacle, &c. Even
more amusing than these are the fancy sketches of real
animals, sucb as the camel or the crocodile. Much of
the information supplied is familiar to the instructed
400
NOTES AND QUERIES. [8« a xi. JUT 15, w.
reader. To such, even, the work commends itself, since
it is pleasant to have in one volume, to which reference
is easy, a mass of information such as is supplied, and
there is much he is likely to have forgotten. Among
the designs is one showing the removal from the head of
the toad of the jewel, here called a *' nandet or crapaud-
ine." A glossary adds to the utility of a work of abundant
value and curiosity.
Gleanings from the Natural History of the Ancients. By
Rev. M. G. Watkins, M A. (Stock.)
WITH this agreeable compilation Mr. Stock begins a
reissue of "The Antiquary's Library," a series of works
issued by subscription some dozen years ago, in praise of
which we have already spoken. Though anything rather
than exhaustive, since half a dozen more volumes might
be compiled on the subject, Mr. Watkins's book is edify-
ing and appetizing. We are still disposed to regard the
Homeric bestiary, with which the work opens, as the
most important portion, though we disagree with some
of the translations— that, to wit, of tettix by grasshopper.
The true rendering, of course, is cicada. Cicade is used
in English in the fifteenth century. Surely this is
obvious, since Homer speaks of it in the thickets, sitting
on a tree, and sending forth a thin, clear voice. It is
but just to say that both Chapman and Pope, in trans-
lating the 'Iliad,' iii. 161, use "grasshopper." It is,
nevertheless, wrong. We had hoped, in the case of a
reissue, to find an index. This, however, remains a
desideratum.
The Order of the Coif. By Alexander Pulling, Serjeant-
at-Law. (Clowes & Sons.)
A DOZEN years have elapsed since, in a costly form,
Serjeant Polling's 'Order of the Coif first saw the
light. Its merits won immediate recognition, and it
remains the best monument of an ancient and illustrious
institution, now existing only in memory. By those
interested in the study of the le^al profession, and,
indeed, in the development of English institutions
generally, it will always be valued, and it will have a
place in every legal library by the more ambitious,
but not less erudite or adequate, works of Campbell and
Foss. A new edition at a moderate price is the more
welcome, since the first edition, though not yet officially
classed as a rarity, is out of print and but seldom en-
countered. It is issued, moreover, in a handsome form,
with an admirably executed picture of the Court of
Common Pleas in the time of Henry VI. serving as
frontispiece; a fine plate of the Court of Wards and
Liveries, temp. Elizabeth ; a portrait of the author and
various effigies of legal luminaries ; and other illustra-
tions. A genuine service is rendered by the reissue.
Chronologies and Calendars. By James C. Macdonald,
P S.A.Scot. (Andrews.)
THIS is a little work which the student and the scholar
will do well to have at hand for constant reference.
Mr. Macdonald has sought to write a popular treatise,
and to carry the reader along with him " at every turn of
[his] narrative and argument." In this he has succeeded,
and his book may he perused with pleasure by all except
the most frivolous class of readers. It is, however, MS a
work of reference it is to be most earnestly commended.
Books similar in class are to be found, and have been
indispensable to those following seriously historical
studies. None, however, simplifies matters quite in the
same manner, auJ we have ourselves placed it imme-
diately under our hand for constant use. If some of
our readers would do the same we should be relieved
from the elementary questions on chronological subjects
that from time to time beset us. It is a work of genuine
utility.
Journal of the Ex-Libris Society. (Black.)
THE latest number of this flourishing periodical repro-
duces a large number of interesting plates. It supplies
also some valuable notes on ' Borlase Book-plates,' by
Mr. J. S. Attwood. Those interested in what is quite a
subject of the day will be glad to know that the* sixth
annual meeting and exhibition will be held at the West-
minster Palace Hotel on 10 and 11 June next. Intend-
ing exhibitors should send a list of their exhibits before
the 17th inst. to Mr. W. H. K. Wright, Public Library,
Plymouth, from whom all necessary information may be
obtained.
WE have received the first eleven weekly parts of a
cheap reissue of the very serviceable French and Eng-
lish Dictionary of M. F. E. A. Gasc (Sir I. Pitman &
Sons). A new fount of type has been provided, and the
work is no less legible than full and convenient. Com-
paring it with the handy dictionary we have been accus-
tomed to use, we find it superior alike in extent and
value of information.
MBS. ISABELLA LINKUPS BANKS, well known as a
writer and as the possessor of archaeological knowledge
concerning Lancashire and adjacent counties, died on
the 4th inst , at the age of seventy-six, and was buried
on the 7th in Abney Park Cemetery. She was an
occasional contributor to ' N. & Q.'
to
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Trifles make the sum of human things.
Hannah More, * Sensibility.'
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the lines beginning
The angel of the flowers one day
Within a rose-tree sleeping lay,
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401
LONDON, SATURDAY, MAY 22, 1897.
CONTENTS.— N° 282.
NOTES :— Etoniana, 401— Nicholas Stone, 402— The Queen's
Age and Reign, 403— Oxford Commemoration in 1814—
"Alius Severus "—Bacon's 'Promus* — Mac Donald's Pro-
phecy, 404—' The ABC '—Nelson's Last Signal— Winter
Food for Cattle, 405 — Verifying References— Holy Thurs-
day Superstition— Thirteen a Lucky Number, 406.
QUERIES :— "Cawk and corve "—Prince Llewellyn, Steam-
boat—Title of Book — Dacre Monument, 406 — Baxter's
'English Hexapla' — "A moi Auvergne!" — Culloden —
Donald Fraser— R. Barker— Tom Taylor— Song Wanted—
Ward and Marriage — " Crn "— Darvel Gadarn — Palfrey
Money— Plantation of James I., 407— Albyterio and Grilli
— Labels on Books — Precedence — Psalm Tune — Cousin —
Cambridgeshire— Value of Money — Nonconformist Minis-
ters—Francis Hamon — " Happy is the nation," &c. — Re-
bellion of 1715— Josiah Nisbet, 408 — Archbishop Rotherham
—Dr. W. Harvey—" Buck "—Countess Bruce, 409.
REPLIES :— " Half-seal," 409— Pronunciation and the ' New
English Dictionary' — "Rarely," 410 — Holly Meadows —
Pope's Epitaph on Mrs. Corbet— Louis Panormo— Carrick,
411— Science in the Choir— Classon— Latin Rhyming Lines
— Chloroform— Pinckney Family — Colchester M.P.s, 412 —
Version of Epitaph— C. Whichcott — Stepney Church —
"Eye-rhymes" — Dr. Beaumont, 413 — Landguard Fort —
Rev. Dr. Oldys— Poisoned Arrows — " Bostrakize" — Whoop-
ing-cough Folk-lore — ' History of Pickwick,' 414— Evening
Services — " Wheelman " — Olney — Shelta — Bfiranger and
William Morris — Teague— " John Trot" — Peppercorn Rent,
415— Sergeant Kite, 416— The Clock saved his Life—" And
your petitioners" — Steel Pens— " Let sleeping dogs lie" —
" Broom and Mortar," 417.
NOTES ON BOOKS :— Baddeley's ' Robert the Wise and
his Heirs' — 'Manuscripts of J. Eliot Hodgkin'— Gibb's
' Naval and Military Trophies '— ' Genealogical Magazine '
— ' Edinburgh Review.'
Notices to Correspondents.
ETONIANIA.
A collector who has gone very far towards making
a complete collection of all books, pamphlets, &c.,
in any way referring to or connected with Eton,
has among his collection the following publications,
the authors of which cannot be discovered after
exhaustive search in works of reference, from pub-
lishers, and at the British Museum. Perhaps the
readers of N. & Q.' may be able to help and give
gome of the much-desked information as to who
were the authors of —
Letters from a Nobleman to his Son during the Period
of his Education at Eton and Oxford. (E. Phillips,
London) 1810.
Eton College. An Explanation of the Various Local
Passages and Allusions in the Appeal, &c., of King's
College v.Eton College. By "A late Scholar." (Hatchard,
London) 1819.
Observations on an Article in the last Number of the
Edinburgh Review, entitled ' Public Schools of England :
Eton.' By Etonensis. (Ridgway, London) 1830.
Montem: a Poem. By an Etonian. (T. Tregalton,
Eton) 1832.
Some Remarks on the Present Studies and Manage-
ment of Eton School. By " A Parent." ( J. Ridgway,
London) 1834.
The Eton Classical Casket. By M. H. (Tregalton,
Eton) 1838.
The Alphabet Annotated for Youth and Adults in
Doggerel Verse, with Hints upon Slip-slop. By an Old
Etonian, (Ackerman, London) 1853.
Extracts from the Statutes of Eton College, witb Re-
marks. By an Etonian, a Member of the Inner Temple.
(R. Oxley, Windsor) 1840.
A Letter to H.R.H. Prince Albert on his Establish-
ment of an Annual Prize at Eton College for the
Encouragement of Modern Literature. By an Etonian.
(Ridgway, London) 1841.
Enormos. By an old Etonian. (Williams, Eton) 1846.
The Confessions of an Etonian. By T. E. M.
(Saunders & Otley, London) 1846.
Random Recollections of an Eton Life. By " Amator
Etonse." (Simpkiri & Marshall, London) 1846.
A Brief Memoir of an Eton Boy. (Seeley, London)
1851.
A Brief Account of Eton Montem. By an Etonian.
(J. Hogarth, London) 1852.
Eton. By Another Paterfamilias. (E. P. Williams.
Eton) 1861.
Thoughts on Eton, suggested by Sir J. Coleridge's
Speech at Tiverton. By an Etonian. (Rivingtons,
London) 1861.
Remarks upon the Report of the Public Schools Com-
mission. (For private circulation) 1865.
Eton : Things Old and New. By an old K. S. (Long-
mans, Green & Co., London) 1868.
Look before You Leap. By a present Etonian.
(Williams, Eton) 1871.
A Plea for all Sides. By an Etonian. (Tregalton
& Drake, Eton) 1871.
The Salt Hill Papers; or, Vindicas Etonenses. By
two Etonians. (Williams, Eton) 1875.
The Sugar-loaf Papers. By three Etonians. (Tregalton
& Drake, Eton) 1875.
How I Stole the Block. By an old Etonian. (Bickers,
London) 1883.
Great Public Schools. (Arnold, London) 1894.
Eton Sketched. By " Quis." (Baxter, Oxford) 1841.
The Art of Losing One's Remove. By Scriblerus
Etonensis. (Tregalton, Eton) 1845.
A Letter to the Scholars of Eton, occasioned by their
Master, Dr. Snape's, Letter to the Bishop of Bangor.
D. H. (J. Roberts, London) 1717.
A Rod for the Eton Schoolmaster's Back ; or, a Letter
from a Country Schoolboy to Dr. Snape, occasioned by
One from Him to the Bishop of Bangor. (J. Roberts,
London) third edition, 1717.
The Eton System of Education Vindicated, and its
Capabilities of Improvement Considered, in Reply to
some Recent Publications. (Rivington, London) 1834.
New Zealand : a Poem. By an Etonian. (Seeley,
London) 1842,
Fagging: Is it Hopelessly Inseparable from the Dis-
cipline of a Public School? (Hatchard, London) 1847.
The Opera of H Penseroso (i.e., the Operation of
Birching), a Performance both Vocal and Instrumental
as it is acted at the Royal Theatres of Eton and West-
minster, circa 1790.
Theodore and Emma ; or, the Italian Bandit. By an
Etonian. (London) 1825.
Perseus Redivivus : a Satire. 1832.
The Pilgrim, and other Poems. (Hatchard, London)
Ioo2.
The Vale of an Old Etonian : Election. (Hatchard.
London) 1854.
The Song of Floggawaya. (Burbige, London) 1856.
Poland : in Verse. By an Etonian. (Macmillan, Lon-
don) 1864.
A Tale of Granada: The Seasons. By a present
Etonian. 1881.
A Few Words to the Provost of Eton (F. Hodgson)
upon Certain late Proceedings of his in the Religious
Government of Eton College. By an Etonian. 1843.
402
NOTES AND QUERIES. [8t*8.xi. MAY 22/97.
Life at Home, at School, at College. By an old
Etonian. (J. Kempster) 1882.
The Youth's Cornucopia. (J. Chidley, London) 1835,
Our Heartless Policy. Dedicated to the highminded
and reflecting of all nations at the approaching Ex-
hibition. By "an Etonian." (J. Ridgway, London)
1837.
The Eton Abuses Considered. In a Letter addressed to
the Author of ' Some Remarks on the Present Studies
and Management of Eton School.' (J. Ridgway, London)
second edition, 1834.
Letter to the Rev. Dr. Goodall, Head Master of Eton
School : On the Importance of a Religious Education.
(J. Stockdale, London) 1803.
Nugae Etonensee, i., ii. (Brown, Windsor) 1847.
Again, who are the authors and what are the
dates of —
Poem. By a Young Gentleman at Eton School (under
sixteen years of age). (Mr. Lauder, Eton.) Last
century ?
An Elegy written in Memory of a Young Lady, who
died by an Accident two days before her intended
Marriage. By an Etonian. Royal 8vo. (C. Knight,
Windsor.) Last century?
A Review of the Changes made at Eton since February,
1864. Crown 8vo. pp. 19 1
Furthermore, what is the date of —
The Thames from its Rise to the Nore. By Walter
Armstrong. (Virtue, London.) ?
Lastly, I gave the collector a print, size 9 in. by
in., of Edwin Irwin, " Vates Etonensis." On
the frame of a table on which Irwin is leaning is
inscribed " Edwin Irwio, Eton Poet, 1841," and
on the edge of the table-top " H. E. Dawe, pinxt.,
1842." What did Edwin Irwin write; and is there
a painting of him extant? H. A. ST. J. M.
NICHOLAS STONE, MASON.
Little is known of the life of Nicholas Stone,
Master Mason to the King, beyond the facts given
by Vertue in the MS. account book, formerly
belonging to Stone, purchased by Sir John Soane
at the Strawberry Hill sale, and now in tbe Soane
Museum. DR. KIMBAULT, in a note in *N. & Q.'
(lft S. ii. 480), stated that Stone kept a diary, but
no trace has been found of it nor of the MS.
referred to by MR. C. A. WARD (6*" S. x. 448).
Stone, as is well known, lived in Long Acre, and
MR. W. H. LAMMIN (5"1 S. ii. 465) describes a
deed of conveyance, dated 5 June, 1636, by the
Duke of Bedford to Stone of certain land in Long
Acre, formerly in the occupation of the Countess
of Anglesey, where Stone and his son Henry after
him carried on their business.
The late Mr. Wyatt Papworth contended that
Nicholas Stone not only executed but actually
designed the Water Gate to York House, relying on
an entry to that effect in Stone's account book, by
Stone's son-in-law Charles Stoakes ; but there are
drawings of the gate by Inigo Jones in the collection
of drawings belonging to the Duke of Devonshire,
now at the Royal Institute of British Architects,
and it appears improbable that Stone, who was a
monumental mason, could have designed the gate,
which bears the impress of Inigo Jones's masterly
hand.
That Stone did occasionally act as architect
appears to be certain, and Cornbury House, Wilt-
shire, is believed to have been not only built by
him but built from his designs. In those days
the distinction between architect and builder was
not so rigidly preserved as it is at tbe present
time ; and even now large and important buildings
are frequently erected without the intervention
of an architect, and sometimes with excellent
results.
The following is Vertue's biographical sketch of
Stone, from Stone's Account Book : —
Nicholas Stone, Senior Master Mason to their Majesties
King James first, and afterwards to King Charles,
Master Mason to all the Kings houses, palaces, and
seaports in England.
He was born at Woodbury, near Exeter (son of —
Stone, a Quarry Man), came to London, where he served
his apprenticeship, the last two years to Isaac James,
Mason, and afterwards stayed one year journeyman ;
from thence he went to Holland, there was employed by
Peter de Keyser, for whom he wrought and carved many
things, and was marryed to his daughter ; from thence he
returned to England and settled, was employed to make
Monuments, Tombs, &c., for many great noblemen and
others, of which this book gives an account from 1614.
In 1616 he went to Edinburgh, in 1619 made Master
Mason to the King, and then was employed to build the
Banuqetting House, Whitehall, besides many other great
buildings. In this book is an account of many of his
works until 1641.
He lived in Long Acre, near St. Martins Lane, where
he dyed and was buried in the Church of St. Martins-
in-the-Fields, a monument was carved (and) set up and
(by his sonnes) being he's effigies, in profil with orna-
ments and carving tools about it. He left three sons,
two of them bred to the Art, one a painter, and the
other Sculptor and Architect, but they survived him not
long ; the third son, bred to learning, upon the decease of
his brothers undertook the business of Masonry and
carried it on till the Restoration, being then taken with
the palsy lived several years incapable of employment,
dyed in Winchester, in St. Crosses.
The father left a good estate in houses and land, but
time and misfortune destroyed it all.
There was another monument erected in the same
Church Yard for the sonnes with an encomium in verse.
Henry Stone, mason, son of Nicholas Stone,
lived in a house, with a yard at the rear, on the
south side of Long Acre, being the eleventh house
from St. Martin's Lane. The premises are thus
described in " A Survey of Elme Close, alias Long
Acre, part of the Baylywicke of St. James, in the
Parish of St. Martins-in-the-Fields, in the County
of Midd., late p'cll of the possessions or late
belonging to Charles Stuart, Kinge of England,
1650," in the St. Martin's-in-the-Fields Library :
All that yard adjoining to ye East p( of the last men-
c'oned Tenement used for a Stone Cutters Yard, con-
tegning in length 72 foot, and in breadth 50 foote, and
a Garden adioining to the North p4 thereof in the
occupation of Henry Stone worth per ann, xL
S. XI. MAY 22, :97,]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
403
Stone's yard was situated between Rose Street
and Conduit Court, at the rear of Nos. 12 to 16,
Long Acre.
The following list of works by Nicholas Stone
is taken from the manuscript entries by his son-
in-law in Stone's Account Book, in the Soane
Museum : —
Some of ye most Eminentt Works that my Uncle, Mr.
Nicholas Stone, Senior, did in England, in Holland, and
Scottland : —
The Banqueting Room att Whitehall.
The Ghappel at St. James House now Standing.
The Stairs and Water gate att Sumerset House.
He made ye figure Nilus and Mr. Kerns ye other.
The fine Mosaick pavem1 and Geometrialle Staires and
many other workes hee did for ye Queene at Greenwiche
house.
The fine Diall standing now Ruind in ye Prevy Garden
at Whitehall.
The famous Mr. Marr erected ye same.
Many eminent Marble Chimey peeces, Noble Stone
Gates and fronttises hee did for K. James ye 1st and K.
Charles ye 1st at Theoballa, ye house ia downe.
He did many strong and good Stone Works and Stone
Carvings at Windsor Castle for ye King, ye King allow-
ing hira 12d p. day for ever, a free gift to him and his
heares, but sould to Mr. Marshall in Mr. John Stones
life time
Thatt Noble Portico hee built at ye west End of St.
Paules Churche Mr. Inigo Jones his dessine and Mr.
Stone's care in performing ye work.
The Water Gate att Yorke House, hee desined and
built, and yc Right hand Lion hee did fronting ye Thames.
Mr. Kearns, a Jarman, by mar'ing his Sister, did ye Shee
Lion.
Gould Smith's hall in foster Lane, he desind and
built, it stands between 4 Streetes and near a Right
Angle w'out side and yett al square Roomes wtinside
wl a Noble Entrance of ye Doricke Order.
He desined and built att Holy Rude House for K.
James ye I*6 in Scottland many curious pavem'ts and
other workes w»inside y« K. House and was well paid.
The Curious Physick Garden hee desined and made
y* Entrances of Stone att Oxford now to be seen.
The Noble Fronttispeece wth Twisted Collums hee
desined and built att Se Marys Churche att Oxford.
In ye same yeare he desined Cornbury house in Ox
ford Shore, hee wnt 33 Jorneyes for whch ye lord Corn
bury gave him a 1,0001. well paide.*
Hee desined and built a fronttispeece at Western
Kerke, in Amsterdam for his father-in-law Mr. Dekizer, f
master mason of yt Citty, he carved ye 2 Lions at ye
Dhurche ; by doeiug ym Mr. Dekizer bestowed his daughter
on him and part of her portion was all y* portland stone
yl built ye frontt of ye iner Courtt of ye banqueting house
at Whitehall, for Mr. Dekizer had a great partt of y(
Quarrey yn Open in ye lid of portland, this I know.
He did many more works of Eminency in many places
for he was maister mason of all ye Kings houses and all
ye Cinque portes in England, now there are 3 maister
masons, he had 3 sonns. He'n a fine painter, His 2d
Bonn, Nickolas, a Curious Sculpture, his youngest sonn
was a bred scoller by docttor bushy, he was an Excelent
Architect^ Writ by Charles Stoakes.
From MS. Account Book of Works done, &c., by
This is corroborated by an entry in Nicholas Stone'c
handwriting, in the octavo Account Book, Soane Museum
Thomas de Keijsor. There is an agreement eignec
by him in Stone's account book.
Nicholas Stone, Sen*, Master Mason to K, James I. and
King Charles. Soane Museum.
On the title-pages is written (in another hand) :
In ye year 1676, on ye 25th of June, I broake my Legg
in 3, Legg Alley, in Show Lane (45 years agoe now being
1721). Ch. Stoakes.
Also the following : —
In time take time while time doth last, for time
Is no time when time is past.
On the second page, in a modern hand (Ver-
tue's ?) :—
This account book did belong to Nicholas Stone, Esqre,
Master Mason to their Majesties King James the First
and King Charles the First, he died 1647, was buried,
and a monument set up for him in St. Martins Church,
Westminster. G. V.
tf
On p. 38 of Stone's Account Book an agreement,
dated 12 March, 1641, is witnessed by John
Stone, and there is the following note under in
the handwriting of Vertue : —
This John Stone was youngest son of Nic. Stone,
Senior, and after the death of his Father and brothers,
Nic. Stone, Jun., Mason and Carver, and (Henry Stone,
painter, who died in lb'53) this John Stone followed the
business left by them and lived in Long Acre.
He went to the King at Breda just before the Re*
storation to get a promise of the Master Masons or the
Surveyors place; there he was taken with the palsy in a
violent degree, which bereaved him of his limbs; he was
brought over, but was never capable to follow his affairs,
and after some years dy'd at H. Crosses Hospital, near
Winchester.
Further entries are : —
1639.— Tomb for Sr Thomas Pickering, 2001.
Stone's MS. Account Bk., p. 18.— This 3 of May, 1636,
Agreed with my Lady Ceser for amonement for Sir
Jiles Seaer, Master of the Rolles, the which quie ? is to
be finished by the last of October next, 501. payed in
hand and 60 when it is finished, then to be sett up in St.
Helen's, London.
Ibid., p. 19.— This 28 of May, 1636.
Agreed with Gabrell Staces for the working and seling
of 8 corners of Blak marbell for the Sestern at Somerset
House for the fountayne in the Garden, and for the which
he is to work netzards [qy. neptunes] robe and set and
pin and point the joynts and make it to agree with the
work of Hebart Cesur, and ye is to have 51. a cornor,
that is for 8 stones, 401. and I have payed him at this
time 101. in prees. Wetnes his hand. Gabriell Staces.
There are subsequent receipts for 102., 5Z., and
51. JOHN HEBB.
Willesden Green, S.W.
THE QUEEN'S AGE AND REIGN.— On the 24th
of the present month Her Majesty completes the
seventy-eighth year of her age and during the follow-
ing month the sixtieth of her reign, which is one of
the longest in European history, as the small number
of names in the annexed list will show. It contains
the soveriegns given in Haydn's ( Book of Digni-
ties ' as ruling for over 60 years. They are :
Frederick Gunther, Prince of Schwarzburg-Rudol-
stadt, 60 years and 2 months ; Rainer III., Prince
of Monaco, about 61 years ; Bernard Erich, Duke
404
NOTES AND QUERIES. [8*s.xi. MAY 22/97.
of Saxe-Meiningen, 62 ; Charles the Great, Duke
of Lorraine, 63 ; Cynan, King of Wales, 63 ;
James I., King of Aragon, 63 ; Philip II., Duke
of Nassau, 63 ; Charles Frederick, Grand Duke of
Baden, 65 ; Leopold the Illustrious, Margrave
of Austria, 66; William I., Duke of Brunswick
Wolfenbuttel, 66 ; Charles, Landgrave of Hesse-
Cassel, 67 ; Frederick Louis V., Landgrave of
Hesse-Homburg, 69 ; Ernest the Pious, Duke of
Saxe-Gotha-Altenburg, 70 ; Charles Augustus,
Grand Duke of Saxe- Weimar, 70 ; Louis XIV.,
King of France and Navarre, 72; Alfonso I.,
King of Portugal, 73 ; George William, Prince of
Lippe-Schaumburg, 73 ; and William, Margrave
of Baden-Baden, 76 years. The last-mentioned
sovereign was son of Edward the Fortunate, a
native of Great Britain, and he succeeded his
father on the sudden death of the latter, 8 June,
1600. William died on 22 May, 1677, at the age
of over eighty-three years. T. C. GILMOUR.
Ottawa, Canada.
P.S.— -I have found the names of two more
European sovereigns who have reigned over sixty
years. They are : Frederick Augustus I., King
of Saxony, 63 years ; and Igor I., Duke of Kiev,
about 67 years. The latter was born in 865 and
died 945, in about the eightieth year of his age.
COMMEMORATION AT OXFORD IN 1814. — The
following family chronicle of this event is of more
than family interest : —
"1814. In June there was a grand Commemoration
in Oxford. Emperor of Russia, King of Prussia, Prince
Regent, Wellington Wellsley, Blucher, &c. There wag a
great want of dignity of manner among the assembled
grandees. Even the dandy Alexander seemed to need it,
tho' he was much better than any of his compeers,
excepting perhaps our own Prince Regent, when he
happened to be in good humour, which was not always
the case during his visit to Oxford. As to the King of
Prussia, he looked as stupid and as vulgar as I believe
he really was. When complimented he never could look
otherwise than embarrassed de sa personne, bored to
death, and could not even make a tolerably ' gentleman-
like bow.' The illuminations were spoilt by a sudden
and awfully tremendous thunderstorm, which dispersed
the crowd and dissolved the spell-like transformation
scene [ae] in a pantomime. Alexander and his Sister,
the Duchess of Oldenburg, were in the crowd, having
escaped from the Banquet in the Radcliffe Library to
see the Illuminations. The Duchess introduced the
Oldenburg Bonnet, celebrated by Moore in the < Fudge
Family':—
A charming new bonnet, set up high and poking,
Like a pot that is set to keep chimneys from smoking !
It is a fact that though this great Banquet took place
on the 14th June, 1814, the season was so backward that
it was with the greatest difficulty one small dish of
Strawberries was procured for the Royal Table, forced,
for the natural ones were not ripe."
ST. SWITHIN.
"ALIUS SEVERUS" IN THE *HISTORIA BRIT-
TONUM.'— In cap. xxvii. of the 'Historia Brit-
tonum ' (ed. Mommsen, ' Ohronica Minor* iii. i.
p. 167) Nennius enumerates the seven emperors
who visited Britain, according to the traditions of
his forefathers, and goes on to say that according
to the Romans there were two others, namely,
Constantius, whom he had already confused with
his own grandson, and "alius Severus qui aliquando
in Brittannia manebat aliquando ad Romam ibat
et ibi defunctus est." Prof. Zimmer, in his
' Nennius Vindicatus,' expresses the opinion that
this Severus is the colleague of Galerius, who is
said, in Victor's ' Epitome,' to have died at Rome ;
but Prof. Mommsen points out (M.S., p. 114, note 1)
that the colleague of Galerius had no connexion
with Britain, and gives it as his own opinion that
" alius Severus " is merely a mistake for Septimius
Severus, who died A.D. 211.
Now Victor, in cap. xxiv. of his ' De Cseaaribus '
(ed. Samuel Pitiscus, Utrecht, 1696, p. 360), says
of Aurelius Alexander, who succeeded as emperor
in 222 and was assassinated in 235, that he reduced
the disorderly legions of Gaul to such strict dis-
cipline that he earned the name of Severus thereby,
and that the soldiers slew him for this reason,
" cum paucis vico Britannise cui vocabulum Sicila."
Sicila may, perhaps, be the Segelosis of the fifth
Iter of Antonine. A. ANSCOMBE.
Tottenham.
BACON'S * PROMUS OP FORMULARIES AND ELE-
GANCIES.'— I am indebted to the anonymous author
of a very remarkable pamphlet entitled 'The
Bacon Mania, a Plea for the Insane,' for knowledge
of the existence of the 'Promus.' He says : —
"There is in the British Museum a collection of pro-
verbe, aphorisms, similes, &c., in Bacon's handwriting;
it is known as the Promus of Formularies and Elegancies,
and contains over 1,650 entries. Hardly any traces of
these expressions are to be found in any other writer of
the time ; but they occur occasionally in Bacon's writings
and again and again in Shakespeare's plays. The Promus
seems to have been a sort of commonplace book in which
Bacon noted down any thought or turn of expression
which seemed likely to be of future use ; how these found
their way into Shakespeare's plays has yet to be ex-
plained."
On this last point I might reply to the very
sane writer of the ' Plea for the Insane,' that they
may have found their way from Shakespeare's
plays into Bacon's commonplace book, and from
Bacon's commonplace book into Bacon's writings.
But I have no intention of entering on the Bacon-
Shakespeare question. I write to express the
hope that the ' Promus ' may no longer be confined
to manuscript, but given through the press to the
world. It would be well worth having.
R. M. SPENCB, M.A.
Manse of Arbuthnott, N.B.
MAC DONALD'S PROPHECY. — The following is a
cutting from a newspaper dated London, 7 April,
1733. It is pasted in front of a chap-book in my
possession: "The whole Prophecies of Scotland,
8*8. xi. MAT as. wo NOTES AND QUERIES.
405
England, Ireland, France, and Denmark, pro-
phecied by Thomas Rymer," and others, printed
at Falkirk in 1782 :—
(C
' A few years since, when I had Occasion to examine
some Manuscripts in the Cotton Library, I met with the
following Prophecy in a letter written by Sir Nicholas
Throgmorton to Secretary Cecil. Sir Nicholas was at
that Time Queen Elizabeth's Minister in Scotland. He
mentioned this Prophecy to have been delivered at the
High Cross in Edinburgh by one Mac Donald, who was
gifted with the second Sight. I am now sorry that, when
I copied this part, I did not transcribe the whole Letter ;
for I find by the Report of the Committee, that it was
burnt in the late Fire among many other valuable Pieces :
Mac Donald's Prophecy,
Whenne the Heich Priestia of Jesu sail worschipp Thor
and Woden,
And ane Cative Knycht sail mell with a Millioun of
Stalwart and stout Warreours ;
Whenne the Bairns of auld Brutus sail refuse to eat
Sweeties,
And al Rych Carles of Luddia Toune sail bee Sornera and
Randee Beggars;
Whenne the Weeds of America and the Beryes of Portin-
gale sail sette al the Beacons of Braid Britayne in a
red Low,
Makand Sikk a muir burn as haith noucht been lichelie
scene before,
And Douchtie Scottis Lairds sail bee fast feed to bere
huge Inglis Packia
Thenne sail cum to pass and sikkerly bee Stabilist
The Thrid Union, and al Parties sail bee nae mair.
W. LILLY."
A. G. KEID.
Auchterarder.
* THE A B 0.'— The note about * London's Big
Directory ; (p. 264) reminds me of a want I have
felt for many years, and I think ' The A B C or
Alphabetical Railway Guide ' is the publication in
which it could be most conveniently supplied ;
but from frequent experience of the uselessness
of making such suggestions to publishers I do not
make it to headquarters.
What I suggest is that under every town it
should be stated what day or days are market
days and which are half-holidays. The editor will
soon be supplied with the information when it is
known that he will give it. The thing can be done
by degrees and with very little extra space by the
mere addition of the initial of the days ; thus
'm.s.— w." to mean market day Saturday, half-
holiday Wednesday.
By this means any one wanting to see a town in
full bustle could choose the market day ; on the
other hand, the visitor wanting quiet could take
the half-holiday day. RALPH THOMAS.
THE HOLT WELL, SHOREDITCH.— In Septem
ber of last year an old brick-steined well was dis
covered in the footway opposite No. 200, Shore-
litch High Street, which was believed at the time
to be the actual well of Holy well Priory, to which
airaculous healing powers were ascribed in the
Middle Ages, and regret was expressed in some
quarters that the well should have been obliterated.
Mr. E. W. Hudson, in an article in the Journal
of the Royal Institute of British Architects (vol. iv.
;hird series, p. 237), has shown that the destroyed
well was not the well of the priory, which it appears
was situate on the south side of what is now
known as Bateman's Row, but was formerly called
Cash's Alley, near Curtain Road. The position of
the priory well is marked on a map of the parish
of St. Leonard, Shoreditch, prepared by Chasserau
in 1745 by a cross and the words, " Ye well from
which the Liberty derives its name." The well in
Shoreditch Mr. Hudson thinks cannot be the
ancient spring which gave its name to the priory,
to the district and the road ; but was more likely
one sunk for the general and more convenient use
of the hamlet after the original spring was ren-
dered unsuitable for either curative or potable use.
JOHN HEBB.
Willesden Green, N.W.
[See « A Relic of Ancient Shoreditch : Haliwell Priory/
8lh S. x. 234, 303, 363, 440.]
NELSON'S LAST SIGNAL. — The following version
of what is probably the most renowned of war
signals may be worth inserting in ' N. & Q.,' as
it slightly differs from the usual reading, and as it
comes direct from the scene of battle and from an
officer engaged in the conflict. It is copied from
a column of the Times of 26 Dec., 1805, in my
possession :—
" Extract of a letter from on board His Majesty's ship
Prince, at sea October 26, 1805 : On Monday morning, at
day light, saw our intended prizes, 37 sail of the line, to
leeward, with several frigates; bore up, made all sail,
and cleared for action. At twenty minutes after ten
o'clock, our gallant Commander made the signal (which
was the last he made), by telegraph, ' England expects
every Officer and man to do his duty this day,' which I
believe every one did."
The signal is given only in its abbreviated form
in CasseU's ' History of England,' pt. 1. p. 510, and
in Waller, 'Universal Biography,' vol. iii. p. 513.
But the above reads as if genuine, and an officer
would hardly be mistaken. A. B. G.
WINTER FOOD FOB CATTLE. — The reference by
MR. ADDY to this subject under the heading of
' Holly Meadows ' (8th S. xi. 304) suggests the fol-
lowing extract from "A Memoir of Thomas
Bewick, written by Himself, prefaced and anno*
tated by Austin Dobson," 1887, pp. 13, 14:—
"When the winter began somewhat to abate of ita
rigours, or in the early spring, it was a common job for
me, before setting off to school, to rise betimes in the
morning — as indeed I was always accustomed to do — and
equipt with an apron, an old dyking mitten, and a shar-
pened broken sickle, to set off amongst the whin bushes,
which were near at hand, to cut off their last year's
sprouts. These were laid into a corner till the evening,
when I stript, and fell to work to ' cree ' them with a
wooden 'moll,' in a stone trough, till the tops of the
whins were beaten to the consistency of soft, wet grass;
406
NOTES AND QUERIES.
. XL MA* 22/97.
and with this mesa I fed tbe horses before I went to
bed, or in the morning, as occasion might require. They
were shy about eating this kind of provender at first,
and 1 was obliged to mix oats with it ; but they soon
became so fond of it alone that there was no need for
any mixture. I know not whether a scarcity of fodder
first gave rise to the suggestion of using this expedient,
or it was tried as an experiment ; but certain it is that
this kind of food agreed so well with the horses that
they became soon very sleek, and cast their wiuter coats
of hair long before other horses that were fed in the
common way. Cows would not eat the whin tops thus
prepared, but, in a winter of scarcity, I have known all
hands at work cutting ivy from the trees, and even
small ash twigs, to be given to the cattle as fodder."
The autobiography is one of the naivest and
most attractive ever written, and in Mr. Dobson
Bewick has such an editor as he would have wished.
ARTHUR MAYALL.
VERIFYING REFERENCES AND QUOTATIONS. — In
his memoir of Dr. Ronth, Dean Burgon relates the
interview he had with " the learned Divine " when
the latter uttered the well-known advice " always
to verify your references " (' Lives of Twelve Good
Men,' i. 73). Very frequently, when allusion is
made to it, the word " quotations " is substituted
for « references " (' N. & Q.,' 6tb S. vi. 386 ; 8th S.
xi. 311) ; and I recollect on one occasion, when
reading a paper before a society, I was corrected
for using the latter word, and informed that " quo-
tations " was the proper one. Would it not be
more correct to amplify Dr. Routh's axiom to
"verify your references and quotations," the
reference being to the work itself, and the quota-
tion to the passage transcribed from it, either of
which may be incorrect ?
T. N. BRUSHFIELD, M.D.
Saltorton, Devon.
HOLY THURSDAY SUPERSTITION, LINCOLN-
SHIRE.— A laundress here refused to do any wash-
ing upon the day before Good Friday in this year.
She said that " if any one hangs out clothes to dry
on Holy Thursday they will have bad luck all the
rest of the year." By "year" was meant until the
following Holy Thursday, not merely until the end
of 1897. I have heard another woman here say it
was unlucky to wash upon this day. Can some
one give a reason for this belief? It does not
apply to any other form of work ; and so far as I
can make out no other day in Holy Week has any
similar superstition attached to it. Good Friday
is, of course, observed as a holiday ; that is, the
shops are not open and the labouring men do not
go to work ; but it has always been the custom
for them to set the potatoes in their own gardens
upon this day. FLORENCE PEACOCK.
Dunstan House, Kirton-in-Lindsey.
THIRTEEN AS A LUCKY NUMBER. — It is worth
while recording that the crew of the Fram con-
sisted of thirteen men. At the last moment
Nansen added Bentzen to the original crew of
twelve : "It was 8.30 when he came on board to
speak to me, and at 10 o'clock the Fram Bet sail."
These thirteen men, after an absence of three years,
all returned safely to their homes in perfect health.
Some curious coincidences are recorded with respect
to this fateful number (vol. i. p. 296) : "I in-
spected ' Kirk's ' pups in the afternoon. There
were thirteen, a curious coincidence — thirteen pups
on December 13th [1893], for thirteen men."
Further, Nansen arrived at Vardo in Norway on
13 August, 1896, and on the selfsame day the
Fram emerged from her long drift on the ice into
the open sea. C. W. PENNY.
Wokingham.
We must request correspondents desiring information
on family matters of only private interest to affix their
names and addresses to their queries, in order that the
answers may be addressed to them direct.
0 CAWK AND CORVE. " — In Sleigh's ' Derbyshire
Glossary,' printed in the Reliquary (1865), this
phrase is said to mean " a basket measure at the
mines." Halliwell says that " corve" is about the
eighth of a ton of coals, and that boxes used in
coal-mines are called "corves." But what is
" cawk" in this connexion ?
THE EDITOR OF
'THE ENGLISH DIALECT DICTIONARY.'
Clarendon Press, Oxford.
PRINCE LLEWELLYN, STEAMBOAT. — I have a
painting by Walters, dated 1833, of the paddle
steamship Prince Llewellyn. It is represented as
passing some rocky island, which may perhaps be
intended for the Steep Holmes in the Bristol
Channel. It is flying three flags : on the top is a
white and red pennon, below it a red, white, and
blue flag, and below it again a flag consisting of a
blue cross on a yellow ground. I should be glad of
any information about this old steamboat and the
meaning of the flags that it is flying.
0. H. SP. P.
TITLE OF BOOK WANTED. — Can you give me
the exact title of a German genealogical work,
a list of the noble and gentle families of England
who remained staunch to the Roman Church,
published in 1665, written by Autolycus van der
Meister at Nuremberg ? GREVILLE E. FRYER,
Philadelphia.
THE DACRE MONUMENT IN HURSTMONCEAUX
CHURCH. — In a letter to Bentley, dated 5 Aug.,
1752 (Cunningham's edition, vol. ii. p. 301),
Horace Walpole states that on a tomb in Hurst-
monceaux Church are two figures, representing
" Thomas, Lord Dacre, and his only son Gregory,
who died sans issue." He goes on to mention
that this is the Lord Dacre who was hanged for
deer-stealing, temp. Henry VIII. Cunningham
8* S, XI. MAY 22, '97.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
407
asserts, however, that the tomb is that of Thomas,
eighth Lord Dacre, while Lewis, in his 'Topo-
graphical Dictionary,' states that the monument
represents the second (he obviously means the
eighth) Lord Dacre and his son Sir Thomas
Fiennes. Can any reader of 'N. & Q.' give me
any information as to the identity of the figures in
question ?
If Horace Walpole is right, Cunningham's inter-
polation in brackets [Thomas] is wrong. Thomas,
ninth Lord Dacre (according to Oollins's * Peerage'),
had two sons, Thomas, who died young (and whose
existence Horace Walpole ignores) and Gregory,
tenth Lord Dacre, who died, as Walpole states,
without issue. HELEN TOYNBEE.
Dorney Wood, Burnham, Bucks.
BAXTER'S 'ENGLISH HEXAPLA.'— Who wrote
the introduction to Baxter's ' English Hexupla'?
I find that in our copy of the above work it is
paged with 113-168 missing, although the sections
follow on correctly. JAMES YATES.
Public Library, Leeds.
"A MOI AUVEKGNE !"— Where is to be found
the story of the young French soldier who saved
the garrison of a beleaguered town by crying " A
moi Auvergne " ? The reference is wanted for a
particular purpose. C. C. B.
CULLODEN. — Can any reader give particulars
of the following medal, which was apparently
struck commemorative of the battle of Culloden in
1746 ? Bronze, about the size of a five-shilling
piece ; on one side the Duke of Cumberland,
mounted, with drawn sword ; on the other side a
picture of cavalry passing infantry ; on the picture
the words " Rebellion justly rewarded," underneath
the word "Culloden 'rand the date ; over the figure
of the duke the words "William, Duke, Cumber-
land," and underneath "Born 1723."
1C. S. C.
DONALD FRASER, FACTOR, 1747. — What line
did he belong to, and when did he die ? He was
a prisoner at Edinburgh, 1746 (vide 'State Trials').
His son John was F.L.S., buried at Chelsea, 1811.
A. 0. H.
RICHARD BARKER. — Particulars wanted of the
career of Eichard Barker, Esq., who was a surgeon
of Golden Square, London, about the year 1773.
J. T. THORP.
Regent Road, Leicester.
UTTERANCE OF TOM TAYLOR.— Will any of
your correspondents who may have back numbers
of the Athenaeum, 1857-1858, be so good as to
inform me whether they have ever come across the
following remark, attributed to the art critic Tom
Taylor, about the time of the Manchester Exhibi-
iion? — "that in a private gallery was a * Three
Maries' far finer than the replica from Castle
Howard, which was considered one of the gems of
the Manchester Exhibition," G. E. M.
SONG WANTED. — When I was a boy, my father,
some fifty years ago, used to sing a song to me, of
which I can only recollect the following : —
Sure I was always fondest of history
Because we all know it is true.
Then some verses I cannot recollect.
Alexander the Great was a hero,
And we all know he was such ;
He fought with the Greeks under Nero
And conquered the French and the Dutch.
I shall be glad to be referred to a print of the song.
RALPH THOMAS.
WARD AND MARRIAGE. — It has been stated
that King Henry III. obtained a gift of the ward
and marriage of young inheritors in 1225. Can
any one say what is the foundation for this state-
ment? A. CALDER.
"CRN."— This occurs in Scott's novel 'The
Betrothed,' chap. xxv. I shall be very glad if
any one will tell me its meaning. I presume it has
something to do with hawking. The phrase in
which this word appears is, "A Welsh prince,
renowned for his love of cm."
C. K. TELFORD-HATMAN.
DARVEL GADARN. — Writing of the execution
of Friar Forest at Smithfield, 22 May, 1538, Dom
Gasquet says : —
"A pair of new gallows were placed over the faggots
for a fire, from which Friar Forest could be suspended in
a ' cradle of chains.' The billets of wood were to a large
extent composed of the chips of a desecrated image,
called Darvel Gadarn, which had been held in high
honour by the people of North Wales, and which had
been removed from its ancient shrine shortly before." —
'Henry VIII. and the English Monasteries/ vol. i.
p. 199.
In a note the author adds, " It was held as a tra-
dition, says Hall, that the image should set a Forest
on fire. Perhaps this suggested the manner of
death awarded to Forest." What does Darvel
Gadarn mean, and in what part of North Wales
was its shrine ? JAMES HOOPER.
Norwich.
PALFREY MONET. — Will any reader enlighten
my ignorance as to the precise meaning of this ?
CHAS. J. FERET.
PLANTATION OF JAMES I. IN ULSTER.— Can you
or any of your readers advise me how to find a list
of names of the families who settled in Ulster in
the reign of James I., with the localities to which
such families went? The family ! am chiefly
interested in tracing is that of Mackay, which I
have reason to think first settled near Ramelton,
co. Donegal, moving afterwards to Port Stewart,
and then to Elagh, co. Tyrone. I have searched
various volumes in the British Museum Library,
408
NOTES AND QUERIES. [8«.8.xi.MiT2V97.
but without effect. There may be some list in a
State Department or elsewhere which would greatly
assist me. J. MACKAT WILSON.
ALBTTERIO AND GRILLI, WRITERS ON AGRI-
CULTURE.—Gervase Markham, in his edition of
Estienne's * Maison Eustique ' (Lond., 1616, folio),
speaks, in his title, of additions from the works of
Albyterio, a Spaniard, and Grilli, an Italian. I
can find no such persons in the British Museum
Catalogue, nor in Joecher. Can any one reveal to
me their identity 1 C. S.
LABELS ON BOOKS. — What is the best way of
removing labels stuck to the binding of books?
It sometimes happens that a book which has been
bought from the surplus copies of a circulating
library attains an unanticipated value, when,
though to have it rebound may be unnecessary or
undesirable, the disfiguring label would be gladly
dispensed with. KILLIGREW.
Cairo.
PRECEDENCE. — Can you give me information
as to who takes precedence — the lord lieutenant
of the county or the mayor of the city, the place
of meeting being within the bounds of the mayor's
municipality ? Also can you give me the authority
on this point of precedence ? The same question
is asked on the same conditions between the mayor
and a peer of the realm. BLADUD.
PSALM TUNE.— Having had the unqualified
satisfaction of hearing the Old Hundredth Psalm
sung by a good choir the other night, I should be
glad to know why this tune was called " Savoy "
fifty or sixty years ago. I have my own theory on
the subject, but should like to know if it is correct.
G. A. BROWNE.
Montcalm, Dagmar Road, Camberwell.
COUSIN. —Can any definite value be attached to
the term cousin in English wills of the sixteenth
and seventeenth century and in Scottish deeds of
1400 ? j. D<
CAMBRIDGESHIRE.— Is there any good county
history of Cambridgeshire ? KILLIGREW.
Cairo.
VALUE OF MONEY.— The Athenctum review of
A. F. Leach's ' English Schools at the Reforma-
tion/ 1546-8, says (No. 3618, 27 Feb., p. 272,
col. 3) : —
' Mr. Leach's allegiance to previous authority on the
question of the purchasing power of money is wavering,
fcirst it ia stated to have been from twelve to twenty
fold; subsequently the equations are based on the
suppositions that twenty-fold, which is now generally
acknowledged to be too high an estimate, is correct."
I shall be glad to be referred to the most authori-
tative computation of the purchasing power of
money in England and Scotland, reign by reign,
from the Norman Conquest. I presume some
papers in Archaeological Transactions (which if
inaccessible are as good as lost) may be among the
most dependable sources of information.
WILLIAM GEORGE BLACK.
Glasgow.
NONCONFORMIST MINISTERS.-— Is there any
register of Nonconformist ministers living about
the beginning to the middle of last century ? I am
told they had to take out a licence. If this was
so, the records probably exist somewhere.
G. W. TOMLINSON.
Huddersfield.
FRANCIS HAMON, OR HAMOND. — This person
was a lieutenant in the 1st Eegiment of Foot
Guards at its formation in 1656. In 1687 he was
appointed Lieut.-Governor of Landguard Fort, and
in 1711 Governor, vice Col. Jones, deceased. He
still held the office in 1716. Information is de-
sired as to what happened to him after that year,
and when he died.
J. H. LESLIE, Major E. A.
" HAPPY IS THE NATION WITHOUT A HISTORY."
— Is this the correct version of the proverb? What
is the original of it ? In the ' Dictionary of Quota-
tions,1 selected and compiled by the Eev. James
Wood (London, F. Warne & Co., 1893), it is
given, " Happy the people whose annals are blank
in history's book. — Montesquieu "; but what is the
original in Montesquieu ? I cannot find it in
* Quotations ' from Montesquieu in other books of
quotations. J. B. FLEMING.
Kelvinside, Glasgow.
EEBELLION OP 1715. — Can any of your readers
tell me where I can find the names of those
Jacobites tried at Liverpool and Manchester after
the '15, and whether the names of those who
petitioned King George for transportation were
ever printed ? F. A. J.
JOSIAH NISBET. — In the church of St. Lawrence,
Stratford-sub- Castle, near Salisbury, is a mural
tablet of marble on the south wall of the chancel,
within the altar rails, inscribed as follows : " Josiah
Nisbet, M.D., | of the Island of Nevis | Born
7th Augst., 1747, died 5th Octr., 1781. | This
monument was erected to his memory | by his
affectionate wife Frances Nisbet." A coat of arms
was formerly painted at the top, but it has dis-
appeared with time. How comes this memorial to
be in this church ? What was the connexion of
the Nisbet family with Stratford-sub -Castle ? It
will be remembered that Frances Nisbet, the
widow, subsequently married the first Lord Nel-
son at Nevis on 12 March, 1787, and died 4 May,
1831. She was the daughter of William Wool-
ward, Esq., Senior Judge of Nevis, and was, by
her mother, niece of John Eichardson Herbert,
Esq., President of the Council of Nevis. She had
been married to Josiak Nisbet on 28 June, 1779,
8" S. XI. MAT 22, '97.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
409
who became deranged, and died within fifteen
months. The tablet must have been erected before
Mrs. Nisbet's marriage to Lord Nelson, i. &,
between 1781 and 1787. 0. W. H.
ARCHBISHOP ROTHERHAM. — In the * Dictionary
of National Biography ' he is said to have been
rector of Ripple, in Worcestershire, on the authority
of Nash's 'History of Worcester.' But in Hasted's
' History of Kent* he is said to have been rector
of Ripple, in Kent, about two miles west of Walmer.
Which is correct ? The copy of the archbishop's
will, given in ' Archbishops of York,' vol. iii.
(Rolls Series, 71), has : "I give and grant to the
College of Wingham, where I was Provost
[1458-63], a jewelled chalice worth 51. I give
and grant also to the parish church of Ripple,
where I was first rector," a similar chalice. These
two legacies occur in one paragraph, so that one
might infer that Ripple, in Kent, was the place
meant. ARTHUR HUSSBY.
Wingham, Kent.
DR. WILLIAM HARVEY. — In part x. for 1837 of
the ' Catalogue of Books on Sale by Thos. Thorpe,
Bookseller, of 178, Piccadilly, London,' is the
following item (No. 1925) : —
" Tickets. — Sixteen Engraved Tickets. — Dr. Harvey,
the celebrated Anatomist, Certificate Ticket of Pupils
having attended his Lectures, with hia portrait finely
engraved. — Funeral Tickets for Lord Nelson and the
Eight Hon. W. Pitt. — Invitations to the Stepney and
Limehouse Florists' Feasts. — The Gamester's Arms,
designed by Richard. Lord Edgcumbe, and others.
10s. M."
I cannot help thinking that there must have been
some mistake as to the first-named ticket relating
to the Dr. Harvey who discovered the circulation
of the blood, and that it was of a much later date
— probably in the last or early in the present
century. I shall be glad to know in whose pos-
session such ticket (or any similar one) now is, as
well as to have a full and exact description of the
same — the information being required for important
literary purposes. W. I. R. V.
" BUCK."— The Pahang Malay " is apt to * buck '
about the brave deeds of himself and his country-
men in an untamed way which would discredit
the colonel of a regiment, who is privileged to
'buck' because his officers cannot attempt to
check him." This quotation is from 'In Court
and Kampong,' just published by Mr. Clifford,
the British Resident at Pahang. What is this word
' buck " ? Is it merely the slang for ' ' boast " ?
CIVILIAN.
COUNTESS BRUCE. — Who was this? Referred
to in " The Romance of an Empress, Catherine II.
of Russia. From the French of K. Waliszewski.
London, William Heinemann, 1894." Not in
'Diet. Nat. Biog.' J. B, FLEMING.
Relvineide, Glasgow.
"HALF- SEA L."
(8th S xi. 303.)
1. In Tudor times letters patent were sometimes
authenticated by the half-seal of England instead
of by the Great Seal. Chap. xvi. of the stat.
I Hen. VIII. (" An Acte for the expences of the
Kinges Howsehold ") has (§ 4) a series of provisoes
and savings, among them the following :—
" Provided alwey that this Act or any Thing therin
conteyned be not hurtfull ne prejudiciall to any persone
or persones havyng any grauntie or graunties by lettres
patenteg made by the King our Sovereign Lorde or by
our late Sovereign Lorde Kyng Henry the vijtb, or by
any of the Kyngea noble progenitoura Kynges of England,
under the great seale or halfe seale of England or under
the sale [sic'] of the Duchie of Lancaster, of or for any
fermes, feefermes, annuities, Manours, landya, tenementz,
Possessions and Hereditament! and of or [for] any
office or offices or fees concernyng the same nat
resumed."
2. In Hanoverian times commissions to Dele-
gates in Admiralty appeals were apparently
authenticated by either the Great Seat or the half-
seal. The Act of 1832 (stat. 2 and 3 Will. IV.
c. 92), by which stat. 8 Eliz. c. 5, was repealed as
from 31 Jan., 1833, speaks (§ 4) of commissions to
Delegates being " under the Great Seal or under
the half-seal," so that an inspection of late speci-
mens cannot finally settle the question.
3. I do not know what may be the case in other
universities, but it appears clearly that the Uni-
versity of Oxford used a half-seal. The following
extracts from W. H. Turner's ' Selection of Re-
cords ' relate to the particular acute phase that
distinguished 1530-1 in the perennial dispute
between the university and the city, and cul-
minated in the presentation to Henry VIII. of
two formidable documents. First come the ' Com-
playnts of manye offences by the Universytye. The
Controversy betwene the Towne and Universytie.'
At p. 78 we read : —
"Wher that oon Gawyn Norres, serveunt to Jamys
Edmonds, on of the bedylls of the Unyversite, was
arrested uppon certen felonye by hym don to oon
William Norres of Oxford, merser, and theruppon
indycted, and Marten Lyndsey, depute to John Cottya-
ford, Commysarye of the Unyversite, dyd feche hym out
of prvson by theyr halfe seayll, which nowe we perceyve
ys not lauffull."
This is naturally succeeded by
II The Answere of the ComysBarye and Scollers of the
Uny versite of Oxford to a Bill of Complaynt conteyning
diverse artycles aurmysed ageynst them by the Mayre
and Burgesses of the Towne of Oxford,"
in which they state (p. 91) that the city authorities
" arrested the said Gawen, beyng a scoler servant, and
when yt he was BOO arreated, hys Mr., requyryng to enioye
the priveledge of the Universitie, deayred to have hyra
reclaymed of the Maire and Bailyffs, and BO according
as well to y* priveledge as custojne and compoeycioq
410
NOTES AND QUERIES. [8fs.xi.Mw 22/97.
bytwene y* said Universitie and Towne, the said Martyn
by a wrytyng dyrectyd to ye Maire and Baylyffs, after
the old cours and forme and theire owne request, under
the halff scale, reclaimed the said Qawen Norys, puttyng
hym under baile, and so remayneth under to this present
owre."
4. As to half-bulls, which Giry (' Manuel de
Diplomatique/ Paris, 1894) describes at p. 691, he
states distinctly (p. 680) that the obverse of the
bulla bore the heads of SS. Peter and Paul, the
reverse being occupied by the name of the reigning
Pope, his title and number. The analogy between
the half-bull and the half-seal (if MR. PIKE has
inspected genuine half-seals, see 2 above) is that
the more permanent impress was used rather than
the more temporary one containing the sovereign's
name. Q. V.
PRONUNCIATION AND THE c NEW ENGLISH DIC-
TIONARY' (8tb S. xi. 325).— One cannot help think-
ing that GENERAL MAXWELL would have done well
to consult the ' N. E. D.' before penning his note.
There he will find the changes of pronunciation
duly noted, and in dealing with the pronunciation
of such a word as contemplate the account is so full
as almost to amount to a dissertation. Personally,
however, I do not agree with him that contemplate,
demonstrate, and extirpate are still in a transition
state, though the older pronunciation may be still
found lingering in the depths of the provinces.
In regard to ensilage, the ' N.E.D.* would have
not been true to its " historical principles " had it
recorded a pronunciation which never existed. Nor
does there seem much profit in adopting a pro-
nunciation which, following such words as medi-
cinal, doctrinal, and the like, must eventually give
way to the necessities of the language and the
times. Yesterday I heard an educated man say
indecorous, and wondered if that were now the
standard pronunciation. It is rather the fault of
our amateur word-coinera that they give us such
unreasonably long words as immediately become
une uphoniou sly contracted in the popular mouth :
witness pram, bus, bike, &c.
In regard to Trafalgar, I submit that there has
been no such change as is suggested in GENERAL
MAXWELL'S note. The two pronunciations — the
popular one and the more accurate one — have
always run side by side ; but the more popular is
bound to prevail. In 1811 was produced Braham's
famous song ' The Death of Nelson/ the words
by Arnold containing the following well-known
couplet : —
'Twas in Trafalgar Bay
We saw the foemen lay.
On the other hand, Lord Nelson's eldest son is by
courtesy Viscount Trafalgar. I happened to be at
school with him, and we used to call him " Gar."
Naturally our poets of the early part of the century
accented the name in the orthodox manner; but
many like cases might be cited of two pronuncia-
tions being current together, such as Marlborough,
Brougham, Hemans, &c.
Of calibre I should like to hear more. The
4 N.E.D.' gives "Icce'liber, occasionally MU'br." It
is curious to note that what I have believed, and
still incline to believe, to be the standard pro-
nunciation, Jcaleeber, is not given at all. Accord-
ing to my observation, ka'liber is more or less
confined to professional, and particularly naval,
circles, though no doubt it will make headway as
conforming to the general rule, and in time receive
general adoption. Kaleebr, which is pure French,
I have never heard, and thought to be extinct.
HOLCOMBE iNGLEBr.
I read with the greatest interest the remarks
under this head, particularly those which refer to
proper names, a subject which I have always made
a special study. I may, therefore, be permitted
to add a few notes upon the same text. Many,
or perhaps most, foreign proper names have two
pronunciations in English : firstly, the native
form, and, secondly, (later) an Anglicized one. This
applies to Trafalgar and the exactly parallel name
Gibraltar. GENERAL MAXWELL, while drawing
attention to the accentuation of Trafalgar by Scott
and Byron upon its last syllable, does not seem to
be aware that this is the original Spanish pronun-
ciation, which was preserved in English while the
name was new to us. Subsequently the weight of
the middle syllable attracted the accent. The
same applies to Lepanto. This name (along with
Otranto and Taranto) is accented in Italian on the
first syllable. But here, again, the weight of the
middle syllable caused an alteration in the accent,
and, curiously enough, Byron, who pronounced
Trafalgar correctly, is in the second or Anglicized
stage of pronunciation as regards Lepanto. As to
Niagara, probably no one knows how the North
American Indians of the "Five Nations" pro-
nounced it originally. GENERAL MAXWELL quotes
from Goldsmith a pronunciation now apparently
obsolete. In the ' Fudge Family,' by Moore, 1818,
we find the more modern pronunciation used with
excellent comic effect : —
Taking instead of rope, pistol, or dagger a
Desperate dash down the Falls of Niagara.
JAS. PLATT, Jun.
"RARELY" (8th S. x. 333, 366, 421, 518; xi.
109, 173, 309, 370).— This controversy has perhaps
lasted long enough, and I should not have been
inclined to add another word had not MR. BAYNE,
at the close of his note on p. 174, apparently
credited me with an opinion for which I must dis-
own responsibility. I think MR. BAYNE would
have been perfectly right in his contention if the
adverb to which he took objection had been em-
ployed predicatively. This is not the case; it
merely operates to qualify the verb emerge. The
whole question, in fact, resolves itself into a
8" 8. XI. MAT 22, W.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
411
i notion between quid and quomodo, or, in plain
English, between what and how. I will endeavour
to make my meaning clear by one or two examples.
There is obviously a distinction between "It is
true that A spoke " and " It is truly that A
spoke," or "It is clear that A sees" and "It is
clearly that A sees." In the first group the fact
of A's speaking is predicated as a matter about
which there is no doubt ; in the second it is not
the fact of A's speaking, but the manner of his
speaking, which is stated. Now the sentence " It
is rarely that one emerges " belongs to the second
of these groups. It affirms not a mere emergence,
but a rare emergence, and the adverb is used in a
qualifying, and not a predicative, sense. With an
opposite intention, the writer might have stated,
with equal correctness, "It is frequently that one
emerges," though probably at the risk of MR.
BATNB'S disapproval. Consequently the attempt
of MR. BATNE to include the phrase in the first
group must fail, in my opinion, and the twisted
sentence which he applies as a touchstone of correct-
ness, viz., "That one of them emerges is rarely "is
unmeaning, if not nonsensical. But as regards the
propriety of such forms as " Rarely one of them
emerges " or " Barely does one of them emerge " I
must join issue with F. H., for I hold them to be,
if buckramed, perfectly sound English. These
forms, together with the lengthened " It is rarely
that one of them emerges," and the shortened
"One of them rarely emerges," are identical in mean-
ing, and the order in which the several constituents
of the sentence are used is dependent on the
emphasis which the writer wishes to give to each.
In the sentence quoted by F. H. from Dr. John-
son's letters the adverb rarely is used in a qualify-
ing sense, and stands on a similar footing with the
following sentence, which I borrow from Macaulay's
on
HOLLY MEADOWS (8th S. i. 431, 462 ; xi. 304,
375). — I cannot remember where I referred to the
well-known fact that holly leaves cease to develops
spines when they grow beyond the reach of cattle,
but I have no doubt MR. ADDY is correct in
attributing the observation to me. But I am
greatly surprised at MR. SPBNCE'S incredulity. I
should have thought the phenomenon was perfectly
familiar to every observant person living in the
country. Allow me to assure MR. SPBNCE that
he is quite mistaken in supposing that all new holly
leaves are smooth, and develope spines " in course
of time." This is the right season for him to
satisfy himself on this matter, and any season will
do to find out that the leaves on the higher branches
of old hollies are all smooth. Strange to say, the
leaves of the holm or holly-leaved oak (Quercus
ilicifolia) manifest the same peculiarity, although,
as the spines are never so conspicuous as those of
the holly, the change in the upper branches is not
so distinctly apparent. HERBERT MAXWELL.
See ' Waverley,' chap. ix. : " His honour was
with the folk who were getting doon the dark
hag [chap, x.] a portion of oak copse which
was to be felled that day."
0. F. S. WARREN, M.A.
Longford, Coventry.
POPE'S EPITAPH ON MRS. CORBET (8th S. xi.
28, 150, 215). — According to the notes in Peter
Cunningham's edition of Johnson's 'Lives,' the
question was raised, in 1854, whether the name of
the lady was Corbet at all, and not Cope, nit
Caryl. EDWARD H. MARSHALL, M.A.
Hastings.
Louis PANORMO (8th S. xi. 268, 336).— An inter-
^ 4ivui „ eating letter on the guitar appeared in the Queen
'Essay on Bacon'7: "TAsTery rdu"cta7tlyThat I in 1892» si8ned M- S- Panormo. Evidently the
Seneca can be brought to confess that any philo- writer had a real appreciation of that instrument
i • • . _ _ * THT« — 1* — ^ «.,*.«. «. i? TjV3 «*,-.*. sJ "Drt *-* y-i««*-h •**-*. V
sopher had ever paid the smallest attention to
anything," &c.
A great writer who approached every subject on
which he touched, from the rules of composition to
the details of the Court of Paphos, in the " equable
and placid spirit " which obtains the suffrages of
MR. BAYNE, tells us : —
Multa renascentur quse jam cecidere, cadentque,
Quae nunc sunt in honore vocabula, si volet uaua,
Quern penes arbitrium, et jus, et norma loquendi.
Horace was not shocked at an occasional solecism,
and knew that what was wrong and objectionable
in one century may be the norma loquendi of the
next. I think myself that the writer in the
Literary World to whose phraseology MR. BAYNE
objected committed no error ; but that the question
admitted of argument is proved by the discussion
which has taken place in these columns, and which
cannot be read without profit and amusement.
W, F. PRIDEAUX.
Was he a son of Edward Panormo ?
R. M. EYTON.
CARRICK (8th S. xi. 287, 339).— I can re-
member about 1848 John Lowry Carrick, a
taberdar on the foundation of Queen's College,
Oxford, who came, I believe, from Carlisle. He
ultimately took orders, but has been dead many
years.
A little before that time there was a surgeon
in good practice at Carnarvon named Carreg,
which was said to be the Welsh for a rock.
JOHN PICKFORD, M.A.
Newbourne Rectory, Woodbridge.
T. W. C. seems to overlook that carriclc is
the Irish word for a rock. Carrickfergus sig-
nifies the Rock of Fergus. Fergus is thought
to have been Fergus MacErch, a chieftain of
Dalaradia, who established the first Irish settle-
ment on the opposite coast of Caledonia. Returning
from Scotland, he was drowned at Carrickfergus,
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and buried in the ancient abbey of Monkstown,
three miles from the town. There are other
places in Ireland into whose names the rocks
they are built upon are incorporated — Carrick-
macross, Carrickboy, Carrickmines, Oarrickmore,
Carrick-on-Suir, Carrick-on-Shannon, &c.
HARRY HEMS.
Fair Park, Exeter.
SCIENCE IN THE CHOIR (8th S. xi. 349).— On
9 June, 1710, the members of the Royal Society,
under the guidance of Mr. Hauksbee, ascertained
the rate of descent of heavy bodies by means of
glass balls. The operations took place in the
dome of St. Paul's Cathedral ; see the particulars
in Derham, * Physico - Theology,7 sixth edition,
1723, p. 32.
In our own times the exterior of the same dome
has been used as a point of observation for the
Ordnance Survey. The Illustrated London News
gave a picture of the temporary erection, but I
cannot find the reference (between 1847 and 1862).
W. 0. B.
If MR. B. HEDGER WALLACE will descend into
the nave, I can point to the hanging lamp of
Vincenzo Posenti, in the Cathedral of Pisa, ob-
servation of which is said to have suggested the
movement of the pendulum to Galileo. Cassini's
meridian line, which is marked in St. Petronio's
Church at Bologna, may also be mentioned ; but
meridian lines are not uncommonly met with in
continental cathedrals. ST. SWITHIN.
The experiment of 'Fiseau, I think, to show the
earth's rotation by a pendulum, was performed in
the Church of S. Gene'vieve, at Paris, commonly
called the Pantheon. St. Paul's, in London, would
have answered much better, or the cathedral at
Salisbury, or even at Norwich. E. L. G.
CLASSON (8th S. xi. 168, 255).— In this con-
nexion it is perhaps worthy of note that there is a
small port below Lancaster, at the mouth of the
Lnne, known as Glasson Dock. There is also a
parish in Cumberland called Glassonby, eight miles
from Penrith. T. CANN HUGHES, M.A.
Lancaster,
The name Gasson (sic) is well known at Brighton
and at Eye, Sussex. THOMAS J. JEAKES.
RHYMING LINES IN THE LATIN CLASSICAL
POETS (8tb S. x. 257, 397).— Your correspondent
will find an excellent article in the Classical
Review, vol. x. pp. 9 sqq., which will answer his
question, so far at least as Virgil is concerned.
ALEX. LEEPER.
Melbourne.
FIRST USE OF CHLOROFORM IN ENGLAND (8th
S. xi. 146, 191).— In Scotland the " first opera-
tions with the aid of pure chloroform" were "at
the Royal Infirmary of Edinburgh, early in
November, 1847." Coote and Lawrence had
performed operations with the aid of chloric ether
in the summer of 1847. See Druitt's ' Surgeon's
Vade-Mecum."
EDWARD H. MARSHALL, M.A.
Hastings.
PINCKNES- FAMILY (8th S. xi. 47).— So little is
known of the old baronial family of Pinckney that
it is difficult to say if there was any connexion
with the Percies. I have failed to trace any. An
old joke of PROF. SKEAT'S, which he has repro-
duced in his fascinating book ' A Student's
Pastime,' p. 21, is that the etymology of Pinckeney
is possibly "two pink neyes " or eyes. Similarly,
I presume Blakeney may mean black-eye, and
Whitney white-eye. In the charters of the priory
of Wedon-Pinkney, in Northamptonshire, which
will be found in Dugdale's ' Monasticon,' the name
is given in both its French and Latin forms :
Pinchenni and Pinconiensis. The following pedi-
gree, which I have deduced from the charters in
question and from those of the nunnery of Sewards-
ley, co. York, is slightly different from that given
in Burke's ' Extinct Peerage ': —
Gilo.
I
Radulfus.
I
Gileburtua Pinconiensis or Radulfus.
De Pinchenni, founder of the
Priory of Wedon-Pinkney.
Henricus Pinconiensis.
Robertas de Pinconio=pEglina.
or de Pynkeni.
Henricus. Philippa.
Simon de Pinkeny, founder of the
Nunnery of Sewardsley, co. York.
Amongst the witnesses to the charter of Gile-
bertus were Hugo de Pinchenni and Anchems de
Pincheni. I should be obliged for references to
any detailed account of this family.
W. F. PRIDEAUX,
Kingsland, Shrewsbury.
COLCHESTER M.P.s (8th S. xi. 288).— Edward
Carey, of St. James'?, Westminster, and Caldicote,
Monmouth, M.P. for Colchester 1690-92, was son
of the Hon. Patrick Carey (youngest son of the
first Viscount Falkland), by Susan, daughter of
Francis Uvedale. He married Anne, daughter
and co-heir of Charles, third Lord Lucas of Shen-
field. At the time of his death he was High Bailiff
of Westminster. Admon. granted 24 November,
1692. His only son Lucius succeeded in 1694 as
sixth Viscount Falkland, William Gore, M.P,
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for Colchester 1711-13 and 1714-15, was of Tring,
co. Herts. He was eldest son of Alderman Sir
William Gore, Lord Mayor in 1702-3, and married
in 1709 Mary, second daughter of George, Earl of
Northampton. A pedigree of his family will be
found in Clutterbuck's * Hertfordshire.1
W. D. PINK.
Leigh, Lancashire.
VEKSION OP EPITAPH (8th S. xi. 326).— In
addition to the variant of a well-known epitaph
published in * N. & Q.' there is a parody of the
same at least thirty years old, and dating back,
perhaps, to the time when engineering science as
to railways was in its infancy. The subject of the
parody is a shattered steam engine : —
Collisions sore long time I bore,
For signals were in vain ;
Till, old and rusted, my biler busted,
And smashed the excursion train.
To this should be subjoined R. I. P., " It rests in
pieces." T. P. ARMSTRONG.
Putney.
[This we fancy appeared in Punch."]
CHRISTOPHER WHICHCOTT (8th S. xi. 108). — A
most interesting portrait of him is in the posses-
sion of his descendant, Sir George Wbichcott, of
Aswarby Hall, co. Lincoln. It represents Ool.
Whichcott in armour, a handsome young man.
In the background is Windsor Castle, of which he
was Governor. He was appointed Colonel of the
Berkshire Militia, 1656. E. E. THOTTS.
STEPNEY CHURCH (6th S. i. 456). — Two corre-
spondents requested references to works on the
monumental inscriptions in Stepney Church and
the churchyard, to which no reply has appeared.
Your correspondent MR. JOHN T. PAGE has
since described the monuments in the church, and
furnished correct copies of all the inscriptions.
These are given in the East End News for 2, 9,
16, 23, and 30 October, 1895 ; the benefactions to
the parish, 6 November ; the inscriptions on the
ten bells, with name of founder and date, 13 No-
vember. The tablets on the exterior walls of the
church and in the churchyard, so far as they are
now legible, will be found in the same paper for
20 November, 1895 ; 17, 24 June, 1, 8, 15, 22 July,
5 and 12 August, 1896.
EVERARD HOME COLEMAN.
71, Brecknock Road.
1 EYE-RHYMES " IN THE POEMS OF SURREY AND
WYATT (8th S. xi. 161, 253, 294, 357).— 0. 0. B.
now corrects himself by stating that when he laid
down his dictum on pronunciation he was refer-
ring to some standard in the Midlands, the
existence of which he hesitates to affirm, and not
to that universally recognized. As one hailing
from the Midlands, I must object to this statement,
for he is confusing the general local pronunciation,
if there be such a thing, with the universal standard,
which knows no limitation. Its headquarters may
be in London, because London society is drawn
impartially from every quarter and corner of Eng-
land, but the standard pronunciation is the same
in the Midlands as elsewhere, and it is improbable
in the highest degree that Tennyson or Gray,
wherever they were born and bred, sounded the r
in the passages quoted, for they were men of the
highest education, and were hardly likely to be
exceptions to the rule. Then we have another
curious dictum — that a poet is not only bound to
choose the most musical word he can find, but to
bring out all the music there is in it. In other
words, as I understand it, he is to be restrained by
no rules, but is free — nay, bound — to distort a word,
if by so doing he can bring out a sound more in
consonance with its surroundings than its orthodox
pronunciation. Such pranks as these will scarcely
commend themselves to lovers of our language,
and it would have been better, I think, had C. C. B.
frankly admitted the original error instead of
bolstering it up by such unpalatable means.
HOLCOMBE INGLBEY.
There is a line by Dryden which has only one
liquid in it : —
He had his jest, and they had his estate.
' Absalom and Acbithophel.'
If the poet had used the word but instead of and,
as he might have done, the verse would have had
no liquid in it. It seems to me that verses may
have too many liquids ; and I think that the lines
of Lord Tennyson which I quoted in ' Harmony in
Verse ' are superior in euphony to others by him
which have been advanced in * N. & Q.' on this sub-
ject. I quote a line by an unknown author, which
has nothing remarkable in it except that it contains
fourteen liquids : —
Prevents from entrance all approaching mortals.
I quote this unknown line only because I cannot
find a known line which contains so many liquids.
There may be some celebrated line similarly con-
structed ; but I cannot be counting the liquids in
all the verses which ever were written. I have
just now found a line of Dryden, not very eupho-
nious, which has fourteen liquids. It is not far
from the line which was nearly liquidless : —
Then all for women, painting, rhyming, drinking.
' Absalom and Achithophel.'
E. YARDLKY.
DR. BEAUMONT (8th S. xi. 246). — Can this have
been the oft -quoted American Dr. Beaumont,
who between 1825 and 1833 conducted a series
of experiments on digestion on the person of
Alexis St. Martin, a young French Canadian fur-
trapper or voyageur, of the American Fur Company,
whose stomach had been laid open by a gunshot
wound in the side? See "Experiments and Obser-
vations on the Gastric Juice and the Physiology of
414
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[8«»S. XL MAY 22, '97.
Digestion. By William Beaumont, M.D., Surgeon
in the United States Army. Reprinted from the
Pittsburgh Edition [1833], with notes by Andrew
Combe, M.D., Edinburgh, 1838."
THOMAS J. JEAKES.
LANDGUARD FORT (8th S. x. 515 ; xi. 35, 96,
236, 276).— On reference to the three historical
records of the 21st Foot (Royal North British and
Royal Scots Fusiliers) in my possession, viz.,
Cannon's, Mr. Clark's, late sergeant of the regi-
ment, and that by Major Percy Groves, I find the
services of the Hon. Alex. Mackay, one of the
colonels, reported in identical terms : —
iT> e» Alexr. Mackay, eon of George, third
r?J? Beay.» was appointed ensign in the 25th Kegiment in
I' awd in 1^46 he ODtained tne commission of captain
in the Earl of Loudoun's newly raised regiment of High-
landers, afterwards disbanded. He served against the
rebels in the same year, and was taken prisoner at Pres-
tonpans. In 1750 he was nominated major in the Third
Foot, and on the 21 December, 1755, he was promoted to
;ne Lieut.-colonelcy of the Fifty-second Regiment, then
newly raised, from which he exchanged in March, 1760.
i £ , Tbirty-n'Dth; in 1761 he was elected a member
of Parliament for Sunderland; in August, 1762. he was
promoted to the colonelcy of the One Hundred and
Twenty-second Regiment, which was disbanded at the
peace of Fontainebleau ; and in March, 1764, he obtained
;ne colonelcy of the Sixty-fifth. He served in America, in
wbl£j country be obfcained t°e local rank of major-general
in 1768. In 1770 he received the same rank in the army,
and was removed to the Royal North British Fusiliers in
tne same year. In 1772 the appointment of Governor of
Tynemouthand Clifford's Fort; in 1777 he was promoted
the rank of lieutenant-general, and in the following
year appointed Governor of Landguard Fort, from which
ne was afterwards removed to the government of Stirling
Castle In 1780 he was nominated Commander-in-Chief
in Scotland. He died in May, 1789."
I trust this information may be found useful.
GEORGE GRAHAME,
Major, late Royal Scots Fusiliers,
16, Carlton Street, Edinburgh.
I notice in Messrs. James Parker & Co.'s cata-
> just issued : —
"A Candid Examination of the Literary Merits and
Moral Exigencies of Philip Thicknesse, late Gunner of
Landguard Fort, &c., by F. G. London, 1792."
Oxford. Q' V*
In Felixstowe parish church there is a mural
tablet to the memory of " Adam Wood, Esq., of
the Independent Company of Invalids at Land-
guard Fort, who died 10 June, 1773." What is
the meaning of the expression the Independent
Company of Invalids ? M.A.Oxon.
REV. DR. WILLIAM OLDYS (8th S. xi. 208, 258).
— At the first reference a correspondent inquires
concerning this divine and his family. There are
some interesting particulars recorded of the Oldys
family, and of William Oldys, the antiquary, who
lied the office of Norroy King at Arms, and died
in 1761 at his apartments in the Heralds' College,
in * Notes On and By Oldys.' This is an interest-
ing and now very scarce little book, which was
given me many years ago by my friend W. J.
Thorns, the founder of ' N. & Q.' A copy of it is
in the British Museum, and the authorship, or
rather compilation, is attributed in the catalogue
to James Yeowell, who for many years acted as
sub-editor of ' N. & Q.,' and ultimately died in
the Charterhouse. The name appears to have been
pronounced as Olds. There is the following pun-
ning anagram made by him in one of his MSS. in
the British Museum : —
In word and Will 7 am a friend to you,
And one friend Old is worth a hundred new.
JOHN PICKFORD, M.A.
Newbourne Rectory, Woodbridge.
POISONED ARROWS IN MEDIAEVAL WARFARE
(8td S. xi. 227).— I copy from Monteil's « History
of the French,' edit. 1853, vol. i. p. 71 :—
"line faudrait pas non plus d'archers, disait le frere
Guillaume : tous les jours ils agrandissent leurs grands
arcs, et plusieurs d'entre eux mouillent le fer de leurs
Heches avec de la ealive pour en rendre lea blessures
mortellee."
H. J. HUNTER.
"BOSTRAKIZE" (8th S. xi. 307). — I remember
bostrakizer as the name of an implement for curling
whiskers. It is strange that this word should have
escaped the comprehensive grasp of the ' 0. E. D.'
KlLLIGREW.
The word, or some such variant of it as b ostra-
cise, is, I think, used as synonymous with " hair-
dressing." Inquiry at any fashionable hair-dresser's
for the secretary of the association of the craft
would probably elicit information.
THOMAS J. JEAKES.
WHOOPING-COUGH FOLK-LORE (8*11 S. xi. 206).
—In the Rev. T. F. Thiselton Dyer's * Domestic
Folk-lore,' 1881, at p. 167, a similar cure is men-
tioned for the relief of whooping-cough. Mr.
W. G. Black, in his « Folk-Medicine,' 1883 (Folk-
lore Soc.), at p. 11 8, gives a more elaborate system
used in Cornwall : —
"The child is passed nine times under and over a
donkey three years old. Then three spoonfuls of milk
are drawn from the teats of the animal, and three hairs
cut from the belly placed in it. After the milk has stood
for three hours it should be drunk by the child in three
doses, the whole ceremony being repeated three succes-
sive mornings."
F. C. BIRKBECK TERRY.
' HISTORY OF PICKWICK ' (8th S. xi. 225, 341).
— Is MR. MARSHALL sure that "notching" had
become obsolete at Town Mailing when the cricket
match between All-Muggleton and Dingley Dell
was played ? I was born in 1845, and all through
my boyhood " runs " were called " notches," and I
have frequently seem them " notched " on a stick.
I do not say this was the invariable custom, and it
S. XI. MAY 22, '970
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415
may not have been the official one in important
matches; bat I have done it myself, and seen others
do it, in matches played by village clubs in South
Notts. 0. C. B.
EVENING SERVICE IN WESTMINSTER ABBEY (8th
S. xi. 26, 153, 213).— "At Christ Church until
twenty or thirty years ago there was no evening
service." But was there not a service for the
men, on the ceasing of the strokes of the bell at
nine o'clock P.M., much earlier?
Eo. MARSHALL.
"WHEELMAN" (8tb S. xi. 265).— Wheelman,
whether an Americanism or not, is not of very
recent origin, even when applied to a cyclist, for
in the Century Magazine, September, 1884, p. 646,
it is used as follows : " As wheelmen nowadays so
greatly abound, the landlords profit by this arrange-
ment." D. M. R.
In German a Bath-chair is called a rollwagen or
a rollstuhl. ROBERT PIERPOINT.
OLNEY (8th S. xi. 6, 135, 217, 292).— I never
heard Olney pronounced by aged persons, not of
" the lower orders," otherwise than as J. S. says.
I cannot protest too strongly against the influence
of newspapers and railway stations and schools
in changing the ar.oient pronunciation of names.
Many of our Northamptonshire villages have
peculiar ways of pronunciation. What a barbarity
to pronounce Daventry and Cogenhoe as spelt ;
and likewise Hunstanton, in Norfolk.
HENRY ISHAM LONGDEN, M.A.
Shangton Rectory, Leicester.
SHBLTA (8th S. x. 434, 521 ; xi. 34, 90, 155,
256, 295, 351). — I am not aware that any con-
tributor has yet informed us how and when Shelta
branched off from Irish proper. Has the tinker
patois been investigated by competent Gaelic
scholars ; and, if so, with what results ? These are
points as to which I feel great curiosity, without
having present access to any book on the subject.
JOHN HOBSON MATTHEWS.
Town Hall, Cardiff.
BE"RANGER AND WILLIAM MORRIS (8th S, xi.
345). — I venture to believe that even if Be*ranger
had never sung, William Morris had been capable
of deeming himself "the poor singer of an empty
day." Why should MR. JOHN HEBB suppose
that the poet of * The Earthly Paradise* roamed
any less freely over the fields of literature than he
himself has done ? ST. SWITHIN.
TEAGDE (8tb S. ii. 161, 230, 350 ; v. 498 ; vi.
137). — In a note at p. 105 of Pope's * Essay on
Man,' edited by Bishop Warburton in 1774, is the
following : —
" Sacheverell, in his ' Voyage to Icolumbkill,' describ-
ing the church there, tells us that * In one corner is a
peculiar inclosure, in which were the monuments of the
kings of many different nations, aa Scotland, Ireland,
Norway, and the Isle of Man. This (said the person
who showed me the place, pointing to a plain stone) was
the monument of the Great Teague, King of Ireland.
I had never heard of him, and could not but reflect of
how little value is greatness, that has barely left a name
scandalous to a nation, and a grave which the meanest
of mankind would never envy."
Probably Sacheverell referred to the site of
St. Oran's Chapel at lona, which stands in the
ancient bury ing- place, for upwards of a thousand
years it is said, of kings and chiefs from Scotland
and Norway, brought here to be laid beside the
bones of the Culdee saints. A recent gazetteer
states that this burial place " is said to contain the
tombs of forty Scottish kings, four Irish kings,
and one French king, besides innumerable Celtic
and Scandinavian chiefs and ecclesiastics." The
mention of King Teague is curious and interesting.
Does his name occur in any known list of the
" kings " of Ireland ? JAMES HOOPER.
Norwich.
"JOHN TROT" (8th S. xi. 289).— Allow me to
say that John Trott (sic) was known before 1728.
The sobriquet was used by Steele in the Spectator,
No. 296, 8 Feb., 1712; No. 314, 29 Feb., 1712.
The epigram to which there is reference is by
Goldsmith : —
John Trot was desired by two witty peers
To tell them the reason why asses have ears.
" An't please you," quoth John, " I 'mnot given to letters,
Nor dare I pretend to know more than my betters ;
How e'er, from this time 1 shall ne'er see your graces,
As I hope to be sav'd, without thinking of asaee."
Mr. Davenport Adams has this note : " A very
similar witticism is said to have been uttered by
Spratt, Bishop of Rochester." ED. MARSHALL.
The epigram referred to in the editorial note is by
Oliver Goldsmith, and is dated Edinburgh, 1753.
It is entitled * The Clown's Reply.' The first two
lines are : —
John Trott was desired by two witty peera
To tell them the reason why asses had ears.
F. 0. BIRKBECK TERRY.
PEPPERCORN KENT (8th S. xi. 268, 315).— In MR.
C. P. BALE'S quotation from Timbs's * Notabilia '
an error occurs. The form of tenure of land re-
ferred to is known in Scotland as " blench-" or
" blanch-," not " branch-holding." The following
is an extract from a work which, when completed,
will be of great utility to Scots lawyers, viz.,
Green's 'Encyclopaedia of Scots Law' (vol. ii.
p. 152):—
" Blench or blanch is that tenure by which a vassal
holds lands for an elusory yearly duty payable rather aa
an acknowledgment of, than as a profit to, the superior.
The yearly duty may be either in money, as a penny
Scots, or in some other subject, as a pound of wax or
pepper. The reddendo clause in a blench-charter may
stipulate simply for payment or fulfilment of the duty,
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or it may stipulate for payment or fulfilment of the duty
si petatur or si petatur tantum. If the reddendo clause
stipulates simply for payment or fulfilment of the duty,
the duty, if it is a thing of yearly growth, cannot be
exacted unless it is demanded within a year after it
becomes payable by the reddendo; but if it is not a
thing of yearly growth, it can be exacted at any time
within the years of prescription. If, on the other hand,
the reddendo stipulates for payment or fulfilment of the
duty si petatur or si petatur tantum, the vaesal is relieved
from the annual duty, whether it is a thing of yearly
growth or not, if it is not demanded within the year
Mr. Duff says that this tenure arose when feudal
manners began to give place to a certain degree of
industry and civilization (Duff, 49), and grants to be
held by the tenure of blench were often formerly
granted because the granter desired to confer on the
grantee a free gift for distinguished services — ob
prteclara in rem publicam merita et partam lello
gloriam, or because the grantee had paid a capital sum
to him in lieu of future annual prestations. For these
reasons, the use of a blench-charter may still be resorted
to ; but that charter has fallen almost completely into
disuse."
J. A.
Edinburgh.
Rents of this kind sometimes had a real value,
and were paid in money. I have just met with the
following entry in a Durham Cellarers' Roll of
1438/9 :—
" Et de vjs. jd. rec. pro lib'o redd, terrar. et ten.
quondam Rogeri Fraunces cum viijd, pro di. Ib.pip'is
et vd. pro j Ib. Cimini."
J. T. F.
Winterton, Doncaster.
It is not at all likely that we can discover where
the name, in any sense, first occurs. I may, how-
ever, state that it was not unusual in this country
in early times to pay, in accordance with the terms
of the tenure, a certain quantity (more or less) of
pepper — then a scarce commodity — as rent. Among
others of the like kind, but belonging to a some-
what later period, I have met with an undated
deed of about the time of William II., being a
grant from William Malebisse to Robert Neve of
two oxgangs of land in Acaster, co. York, at the
rent of a pound of pepper, payable yearly at
Christmas. It was probably at "the festive
season " that this then precious condiment would
be used, and the same was formerly no doubt
roughly ground for the table by the servant of the
user, and not by the seller. One can, therefore,
easily understand why, when pepper became of com-
paratively little value in commerce, the term " a
peppercorn " was used in leases to signify a merely
nominal payment for rent ; but the term is now
only met with in agreements for building leases, or
in such leases, and usually covers the period during
which the building operations would be in pro-
gress, and consequently no rent receivable by the
lessee from under-tenants. W. I. R, V.
It may interest your querist to have a reference,
if it has not already been given, to Littleton's
* Tenures ' (written in 1474), in which "un liver
de Pepper" is frequently mentioned as an item
of rent. Under § 314, " Of Tenants in Common,"
Littleton says : —
"Item si eont deux tenants en Common de certaine
Terre en fee, et ils doneront eel terre a un home en le
taile, ou lesseront a un home pur terme de vie, rendant
a eux annuelment un certaine rent, et un liver de
Pepper, et un esperver, ou un chivall En cest cas
quant a le rent et liver de Pepper ils averont deux
Assises, et quant a 1'esperver, ou le chival forsque un
Assise," &c.
He goes on to explain the reasons for the dif-
ference of the procedure in the case of the " liver
de Pepper " and in those of the hawk or horse.
The extract is printed at length in my ' Specimens
of Old French ' as an example of the barbarous
jargon into which the French language in England
had degenerated at the close of the fifteenth
century. PAGET TOTNBEB.
Dorney Wood, Burnham, Bucks.
In Mr. W. Carew Hazlitt's * Tenures of Land
and Customs of Manors,' 1874, p. 25, under
" Bermeton, co. of Durham," the following tenure
is given : —
" In the fourth year of the pontificate of Bishop Hat-
field, 1348, Thomas de Bermeton died seised, &c., of one
oxgang of land, with the appurtenances, in Bermeton,
and it was held in capite of Robert de Skirnyngham, by
the service of three grains of pepper yearly [per servic'
trium granor' pip'is per ann.]."
F. 0. BIRKBECK TERRY.
It appears from charters and rentals of this
neighbourhood that from the thirteenth to the
fifteenth century one pound of pepper ("una
libra piperis") was a rather common rent. A
pound of cummin ("una libra cumini") was
equally so. JOHN HOBSON MATTHEWS.
Town Hall, Cardiff.
SERGEANT KITE (8th S. xi. 387).— For all parti-
culars regarding this famous character I must refer
3. (who takes him for an actor in real life) to
Farquhar's comedy, first played in 1706, 'The
Recruiting Officer/ in which, as recruiting sergeant,
he afforded our forefathers immense amusement.
There may be some still living who have enjoyed
his humour on the stage ere public propriety took
offence at the play, for it was long popular. The
name " Kite " is significant of his way of raising
recruits ; and the sergeant sums up his own
character thus (Act III. sc. i.): —
"If your worship pleases to cast up the whole sum,
viz., canting, lying, impudence, pimping, bullying, swear-
ing, drinking, and a halberd, you will find the sum total
amount to a recruiting sergeant."
"Sergeant Kite" has become a proverbial name.
F. ADAMS.
I do not find the name of Kite in the lists of
Serjeants given by Serjeant Pulling in his his-
tory of ' The Order of the Coif.' Sergeant Kite is
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(I think) a character in Farquhar's comedy of * The
Recruiting Officer,' and this possibly is the Ser-
geant Kite inquired for by your correspondent S.
E. C. BOSTOCK.
THE CLOCK SAVED HIS LIFE (8th S. xi. 389). —
Your correspondent will find this subject fully
gone into at the following references, viz. : 'N. & Q.,'
1« S. iii. 40, 198, 449 ; 2nd S. vi. 490 ; vii. 14 ;
4tb S. iv. 213, 325, 343 ; v. 419; 5th S. ix. 87,
114, 138, 156, 178, 198; see also Chambers's
* Book of Days,' vol. i. p. 2.
FRANCIS W. JACKSON, M.A.
Ebberston Vicarage, York.
"AND YOUR PETITIONERS" (8th S. xi. 388).—
See 8tb S. ix. 377 (only a year ago), and other
references there given in plenty.
C. F. S. WARREN, M.A.
Longford, Coventry.
STEEL PENS (8th S. x. 47, 191 ; xi. 291, 355).
— The last reference recalled to me a passage in
Dr. Martin Lister's account of his visit to Paris in
1698, which is to be found in Pinkerton, vol. iv.
p. 40. Visiting the library of St. Genevieve, he
says : —
"There was one thing very curious, and that was an
ancient writing instrument of thick and strong silver-
wire, wound up like a hollow bottom or screw ; with
both the ends pointing one way, and at a distance ; so
that a man might easily put his fore-finger between the
two points, and the screw fills the ball of hia hand. One
of the points was the point of a bodkin, which was to
write on waxed tables : the other point was made very
artificially, like the head and upper beak of a cock, the
point divided in two, just like our steel-pens; from
whence undoubtedly the moderns had their patterns;
which are now made also of fine silver and gold, or
prince's metal ; all of which yet want a spring, and are
therefore not so useful as of steel, or a quill ; but a quill
soon spoils. Steel is undoubtedly the best, and if you
use China ink, the most lasting of all inks, it never rusts
the pen, but rather preserves it with a kind of varnish,
which dries upon it, though you take no care in wiping
it.
The latter portion of the extract is of importance
as showing that in 1698 pens made of silver and
gold were known in this country, while those made
of steel were not regarded as novelties. May I
add that steel pens would not have ceased to be
known or used in 1769, and that the variations
which some hyper-astute critics have noted in the
handwriting of Junius, in the manuscripts pre-
served in the British Museum, are not due to
Philip Francis struggling to maintain a feigned
hand, but to Junius writing at times with a quill
and at others with a steel pen ? When I first
examined these manuscripts I felt certain that a
Bteel pen had sometimes been used by the writer.
W. FRASER KAE.
"LET SLEEPING DOGS LIE" (6th S. ix. 68, 173 ;
11 S. xi. 89, 209),— I have often used this proverb,
convinced of the truth of it as most people must
be, and am inclined to think that the same idea is
embodied in the well-known Latin adage, " Quieta
non movere." Let me quote an instance of its
appearance in print from * St. Ronan's Well '
(chapter viii. "After Dinner") : —
"But Mr. Meiklewham, who did not like Tyrrel's
looks so well as to induce him to become approver on the
occasion, replied with an inarticulate grunt, addressed to
the company, and a private admonition to his patron's
own ear, * to let sleeping dogs lie.' Here the Captain
[i.e., Mac Turk] broke in with a very solemn mien and
dignified manner — 'By Cot ' Master Meiklewham, and I
shall be asking what you mean by talking to me of peing
mistaken, and about "lying togs," sir— pecause I would
have you know, and to pelieve, and to fery well consider,
that I never was mistaken in my life, sir, unless it was
when I took you for a chentleman."
JOHN PICKFORD, M.A.
Newbourne Rectory, Woodbridge.
Is this proverbial expression of Scottish origin 1
At all events, I find it in * The Proverbs of Scot-
land/ by Alexander Hislop, ed. 1868, p. 209;
and also in 'Scottish Proverbs,' by Andrew
Henderson, ed. 1876, p. 51. I have read MR.
ADAMS'S communication at the last reference with
much interest. F. 0. BIRKBECK TERRY.
At the last reference MR. ADAMS quotes Cham-
baud's rendering of a French proverb, "When
sorrow is asleep, wake it not." Can he, or any
other reader, tell me the author of a song, set to
music for a contralto voice, of which the first verse
runs thus : —
When sorrow sleepeth wake it not,
But let it slumber on ;
If grief is for awhile forgot,
Its power that while is gone ?
The first line is repeated as a refrain at every
verse end. It is thirty years since I last heard
the song sung, and I should be glad to meet with
it again. C. C. B.
[In a MS. of this, copied in 1851, the words of the
song in question are assigned to Miss M. A. Stodart, and
the music to E. Laud.]
" BROOM AND MORTAR" (8th S. xi. 306).— One
form of punishment of those females who misused
their tongues in Sandwich during the sixteenth and
seventeenth centuries consisted either in having
to carry a large heavy wooden mortar suspended
from an old broom over the shoulder, or having it
borne before them through the principal streets,
and this custom was apparently peculiar to that
town. Several records of its employment are
quoted in Boys's * History of Sandwich/ with an
illustration of the unwieldy instrument, the
following being the earliest allusion to it : —
" 1518. A woman for abuse of the mayor is sentenced
to go about the town with the mortar borne before her ;
but her husband commutes the punishment for a fine of
d. to the corporation" (683).
The latest entry in that work relating to it is dated
418
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1637. It does not mention the two examples noted
by your correspondent.
The ducking stool was probably seldom employed
in that town, and Boys's work contains but one
notice of it (in 1534). The more merciful sub-
stitute of the mortar continued in use to the close
of the seventeenth century, perhaps longer. It was
certainly less productive of physical pain, but
doubtless the sense of degradation that was expe-
rienced was equally great. It was the nearest
approach in England to the " shameful stone"
that had to be carried by scolds in many towns on
the Continent, notably in those of Germany.
T. N. BRUSHFIELD, M.D.
Salterton, Devon.
MR. COWPER'S note at the above reference is
very interesting, as introducing us — at the com-
fortable distance of 250 years and more — to British
scolds invested with the very same insignia which
constitute the special paraphernalia of the Yaga
Baba, or female fiend and archscold of Kussian
fable, when she drives abroad. This is how
W. R. S. Ralston describes her, at p. 138 of his
' Russian Folk-Tales ' (London, Smith, Elder & Co.,
1873) : " She rides in a mortar, which she urges
on with a pestle, while she sweeps away the traces
of her flight with a broom." The name of Yaga
Baba in vulgar parlance now signifies (as Ralston
says) a quarrelsome, scolding old woman. Baba is,
of course, a familiar word for " woman," and
though the etymology of Yaga is variously given,
many scholars connect it with an old root meaning
" to eat," " to gnaw," which in a metaphorical sense
well suits the character. The small bell tinkled
before scolds in the procession was doubtless
intended to scare away the evil spirits which might
be supposed to hover near their ally. Compare
the ringing of the " passing " bell, &c.
H. E. M.
NOTES ON BOOKS, &0.
Robert the Wise and his Heirs, 1278-1352. By St. Clair
Baddeley. (Heinemann.)
READERS of • N. & Q.' are, happily, familiar with the
bent of Mr. St. Clair Baddeley'a recent studies, those
especially which deal with the acqusition of the throne
of Hungary by the Angevin dynasty of Naples. His
views on the circumstances attendant on this change
have not passed unchallenged. Those views, with slight
modification, are reasserted in the handsome and finely
illustrated volume before us, and are supported by argu-
ments of great weight and by an appendix of original
authorities. Mr. Baddeley is impassioned by that fierce,
turbulent, picturesque, and splendid epoch when the
revival of ancient ideals brought the breath of life
to asphyxiated Italy, and the Southern world parsed
through a conspicuous portal from the world of medi-
evalism into that of renaissance. The time specially
illustrated covers three generations, or seventy -five
years, and extends over a great part of the reigns of our
own Angevin monarcha, Edward I., 11., and III. Few
in modern days realize the vast importance of Naples
under the Angevin monarch to the wellbeing and
development of Guelphic Florence and to the balance of
power in Italy, in its opposition to the Ghibelliue tyrants
of Romagna and Lombardy, and against the empire,
with its carefully maintained feudal traditions and
influences. These things Mr. Baddeley fully exhibits.
He displays the enormous and dangerous aggressiveness
of Angevin ambition, which, not content with the con-
trol of four European thrones and the virtual hold of
the Holy See at Avignon, aspired to the Western
empire ; depicts its basenesses, rapacities, and cruelties,
as well as its heroism, its failures, and its successes, its
influence upon the revival of learning, the downfall of
feudalism, and the demoralization of the Papacy.
We have here a huge canvas, so crowded with figures
that the way has to be carefully trodden and the faculties
have to be kept wide awake. We are watching con-
tinually the change from the old to the new, from the
tyranny to the commune, from the learning of Dante to
that of Petrarch and Boccaccio. Italian wars are inex-
haustible. Few influences were more potent for good
than the struggle maintained by Florence and Naples
against the arrogant and ever-growing pretensions of the
empire. Robert II. of Anjou— known not only as the
Wise but also as the Good — is himself enough to fill
three or four volumes such as Mr. Baddeley has devoted
to him and his successors. Amongst the many charges
brought against a man who, in respect of piety, has been
held up as a rival of his great-uncle St. Louis, that of
avarice alone eeems to be well supported. His associa-
tion with Petrarch, by whom he was selected as judge of
the poet's claim to the laurel crown awarded him, is
enough to give him a conspicuous place among the
potentates of his epoch. Petrarch likened him to Plato
the divine, and Boccaccio, with no such ironical intent
as may be supposed to have animated the bestower of a
like title upon a subsequent English king, called him
Solomon. Any number of contemporary tributes to the
wisdom, erudition, and virtues of Robert may be ad-
vanced. Under his reign Naples became a veritable
centre of learning, or, in Mr. Baddeley's words, "the
focus of Eastern and Western ideas, the intellectual lens
which collected the rays of Oriental as well as Occi-
dental wisdom." Within a century of the period in
which the association with Petrarch had raised Robert
to this pitch of greatness, his reputation was no more
than a name, and a distinguished humanist, whom Mr.
Baddeley quotes, could say that hardly a learned man of
that day would have known anything of Robert had not
Petrarch written so frequently and affectionately con-
cerning him. In his explanation of this fact Mr. Bad-
deley supplies one of the most philosophical and brilliant
chapters his book, rich in such, contains. We are
forbidden by considerations of space to quote ; but we
commend to our readers the paragraphs, pp. 274 et seq.,
beginning, " The real note of the Renaissance was its un-
compromising adoration of heroic and idyllic antiquity."
The reign of Joanna, the granddaughter of Robert,
and the murder of her husband, constitute the most
dramatic chapters in the volume. It has been asserted
and maintained that Joanna was privy to this cruel
assassination. Brant6me, indeed, dared to assert that,
in order to do the monarch greater honour, the cord
with which Andrew of Hungary was strangled was
woven of gold threads by the fair hands of the queen,
then eighteen years of age. The supposition that the
queen was in any way cognizant of, or participant in,
the murder if, as heretofore, oppugned by her latest
biographer, whose opinion is fortified by evidence that
may almost be regarded as conclusive, though the point
is one on which diametrically opposite opinions will
always be held. Mr. Baddeley himself will not exonerate
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absolutely the young queen " from such culpability as
may have attached to her for permitting such of her
court officials as were declared enemies of Andrew and
Hungarians to perceive that she would be indifferent as
to what became of him." Mr. Baddeley's volume is an
all-important historical contribution to a very difficult
subject. It is well and forcibly written. An appendix
gives a number of valuable documents from Italian
archives, the results of the author's own researches, and
now for the first time rendered accessible to the student.
These consist principally of letters of Pope John XXII.
and Clement VI., from the Vatican archives. It supplies
also a full table of authorities, with indexes and other
aids to comprehension or reference. A few admirably
executed illustrations, of unimpeachable authority, add
to the value of the work.
The Manuscripts of J. Eliot Hodglkin, Esq., F.S.A.
(Stationery Office.)
THIS volume, issued by the Historical Manuscripts Com-
mission and included in the fifteenth report, of which it
constitutes the second part, describes the truly remark-
able series of documents of national importance accu-
mulated by a well-known antiquary and contributor to
our columns, and kept by him at his house in Richmond,
Surrey. The moat important among these documents
are classed under " Papers relating to Charles I. and the
Civil Wars and Charles II. in Exile"; " Letters of Sir
Bernard Gascoigne"; and Pepys, Danby, Ormonde,
Jacobite, and D'Eon papers. Very far are they, how-
ever, from being comprised within these limits, some of
them dating back to the fifteenth century. One of the
most interesting of all to us, personally, is a letter from
the King of Navarre, subsequently Henri IV. of France,
to James VI. of Scotland, in answer to a request for a
loan of the Huguenot poet Guillaume de Salluste, Sieur
du Bartas, a gentleman greatly in request among the
Protestant princes. This is dated from La Rochelle,
10 April, no year being given, and begins " Monsyeur
mon frere," and ends as follows, " Je remetray sur ledyt
Sr. du Bartas a vous dyre plusyeurs autres partycularytes
de ce quyl sayt et quyl a veu et vous pryeray tres-
afectueusement et Monsyeur mon frere de vouloyr fere
tres certeyn et assur estat de de [sic] lentyre amytye et
de tout ce quy est au pouvoyr de Vostre byen humble
et tresaffectionne frere a vous obeyr et servyr." The
year of this precious document is, we venture to surmise
1588. The Charles I. MSS. contain, among many other
papers, unsigned and undated, one from York, May,
1642, accepting the service of volunteers to safeguard his
person, with a letter from Lord Howard of Escrick to
Lord Littleton thereon ; rough draft of a commission,
dated 27 Oct., 1643, appointing Ralph, Lord Hopton,
Field Marshal General of the horse, foot, and dragoons
raised, or to be raised, or brought by him into the counties
of Sussex, Surrey, and Kent, and various kindred docu-
ments, with orders at councils of war at Exeter, Chard,
and elsewhere. Those of the period of the exile of
Charles II. comprise much correspondence with Prince
Rupert, including letters from the exiled monarch him-
self. Specially interesting is an order from the king,
6 June, 1649, from " The Hagh," ordering Sir Edward
Walker, Knt., Clerk of the Council, to make disburse-
ments amounting in all to 29,900 guilders. Of highest
literary importance are the Pepys papers, not previously
printed, and containing matter indispensable to the
writer of the authoritative life of the diarist, whenever
that is attempted. To those familiar with the diary,
the letters from the Earl of Sandwich, John Creed, the
Duke of Albemarle, Sir William Coventry, John Evelyn,
and others, will aid largely in the elucidation of a diary
which, though principally delightful aa a human docu-
ment, has all-important historical claims. The documents
referring to the Chevalier D'Eon comprise many pass-
ports, commissions, and notes touching missions in
Russia. Among miscellaneous letters are one from Lord
Nelson on board the Victory, off Portland, 16 Sept., 1805,
to Lady Hamilton, full of raptures, telling her he adores
her "to the very excess of the passion," and one from
"Casanova mourant" — he lived four years longer —
30 April, 1798, to the Grafin Von der Recke, declining,
for reasons of health, to receive her visit. Parts of the
letter, not printed, are spoken of as disagreeably flippant.
This arraignment will be easily accepted by those familiar
with Casanova. The few indications we have given will
convey an idea of the wealth and importance of a
collection the description of which occupies near four
hundred closely printed pages.
Naval and Military Trophies. By William Gibb.
Descriptive Notes by Richard R. Holmes, F.S.A.
Parts VII., VIII., and IX. (Nimmo.)
AMONG the works issued in commemoration of the forth-
coming auspicious anniversary of Her Majesty, Mr.
Nimmo's tribute to deceased British heroes, now happily
completed, 10, we are disposed to think, one of the hand-
somest and most appropriate. No souvenir of the occasion
can well be more artistic, and none can convey better
the lesson by what warlike heroism and devotion the
foundations have been established of the Victorian reign
of peace, for as such it must in the main be regarded.
The ninth and concluding part of a work forthwith
to be issued in a handsome volume to the public,
includes the promised introduction by F.M. Viscount
Wolseley. This is short and to the point, expressing the
admiration generally shared for the execution of Mr.
Gibb's water colours, and stating which of the trophies,
imperial and august, now reproduced appeal most
directly to the writer. The two trophies in question
are the bullet which, in the moment of victory, took the
life of Nelson at Trafalgar, and the well-worn Bible
which was the consolation of Gordon in his desertion
and death. Interesting, indeed, are these ; but it depends
upon the idiosyncrasy to which they appeal whether
they come home to it more directly than other tributes
to departed heroism, In the three latest parts, as in
their predecessors, the objects of most interest are from
the royal collection at Windsor Castle. We are thence
supplied, in Part VII., with the cap of the Emperor of
China, from Pekin, the crown of the King of Kandy,
and a crown and a chalice from Abyssinia ; the other
illustration of the sword and relics of Admiral Viscount
Duncan being from the collection of the Earl of Camper-
down, as if, in Part VIII., the figure-head of the Vryheid,
the flag-ship of Admiral De Winter. This trophy is now
erected in the garden at Camperdown, near Dundee.
American flags, which could easily be paralleled the
other side the Atlantic, are from the Naval Hospital,
Chelsea. The Museum of the United Service Institution
supplies Lord Raglan's telescope and a Russian bugle
from Sebastopol, as well as Drake's walking-stick, and the
punch-bowl of Capt. Cook. From Windsor Castle come,
again, the bullet fatal to Nebon, the swords surrendered
at Delia by the king arid princes to Major Hodson, and
the Burmese gun from Mandalay. The Royal Hospital
at Chelsea, lastly, sends the eagle captured by the Scots
Greys at Waterloo. The order in which these repro-
ductions are issued is not the same as that to be observed
in binding, precise directions for which are supplied.
We have spoken in praise of the short descriptions
penned by Mr. Holmes, the Queen's librarian at Windsor.
We have, indeed, nothing but praise for a volume which
is admirable in all respects. When the tumult of present
rejoicing is over this work will remain conspicuous
420
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among the peaceful triumphs of the longest of English
reigne.
The Genealogical Magazine. No. 1. May. (Stock.)
MR. ELLIOT STOCK has done good service to all who
are interested in that form of history which we are apt
vaguely to class under the title of " Genealogical." The
first number of this magazine is a very good one, and we
hope that it may receive due support. Perhaps the most
interesting paper in it is ' The Sobieski Stuarts/ by Mr
Henry Jenner. All the information upon the subject
which we have hitherto had to search for in various
places is here given gathered together and arranged in
due order. Mr. Jenner is careful to let the facts speak
for themselves, and writes entirely without bias ; but we
think that after reading this paper very few people who
are in the habit of weighing evidence will be found to
believe that the Sobieski Stuarts were descended from
the wife of Prince Charles Edward Stuart, though very
likely they may have inherited Stuart blood. The
magazine has a portion of it set apart for notes and
queries upon subjects relating to genealogy, and it also
contains an obituary and much other useful information,
beside several articles of great interest. We wish Mr.
Stock success in his new venture, and shall rejoice if it
is found to answer.
WE imagine that most readers of the Edinburgh
Review will turn in the first instance to the article on
Jowett. Though, in form a review, it is in fact an
independent essay on the life and character of one
who has influenced modern thought in a wider measure
than any other man who has arisen in Oxford since the
time when the great Tractarian movement was diverted
from its original course into the many streamlets in
which we find it acting in diverse fashions to-day. The
old Tractarians were, beyond and above all things else,
dogmatic, not in theology only, but in history, physical
science, and, indeed, in all things with which they came
in contact. Jowett's mission seems to have been to show
the futility of treating our imperfect knowledge on any
subject as anything beyond a series of working sugges-
tions—thoughts which, though holding in solution
elements of vast importance for those who held them,
were destined to pass away or change their forms as the
years unfolded themselves. We are extremely glad to
possess so accurate an estimate of the character of a
great and good man, though we do not think the writer
has fully appreciated all the strong points or the limita-
tions of Jowett's highly complex character. There has
been a tendency for some years past to depreciate Gibbon
alike as a depicter of the past and as a writer of noble
English prose. We trust that ' A Great Historian ' will do
something towards correcting this narrow-minded esti-
mate. For many years after the publication of ' The
Decline and Fall ' it was mainly attacked on theological
grounds — sometimes this was avowed, at others masked.
While this went on men of culture were almost united in
their praises ; but when the hubbub ceased, or only
stirred the calm of professional magazines which had no
influence on thought or even sensible opinion, it became
the fashion to point out not the historian's inaccuracies
only, but to dwell on the assumed fact that he had taken
a wrong — that is, an entirely unsympathetic — view of
the world's history from the days of the Antonines to the
time when Constantinople fell before the arms of the
conquering Moslem. That Gibbon was prejudiced on
Borne points it would be an easy task to show. His con-
tempt for Christianity, for example, led him to present
a most perverse picture ; but we must bear in mind that
no one of his own time, or of any previous date, except,
perhaps, two or three French antiquaries, whose com-
pilations were for scholars only, had ever before grasped
the idea of the continuity of history. Much may be for-
given to one who expounded so forcibly and wisely this
fruitful truth in a style such as all educated people could
appreciate. Gibbon was not an antiquary; but, not-
withstanding this, he showed, in an age when such
pursuits were not uncommonly laughed at, a remarkable
appreciation for the results of antiquarian labour. When
we call to mind the contempt into which the study of
genealogy had sunk, it is marvellous to find the respect
with which he treated it, and how very rare are the
instances in which he has been caught tripping in
matters of pedigree. ' The Sculptured Tombs of Hellas '
is a paper which shows remarkable learning. We fear it
will not find many readers who have sufficient knowledge
of the subject to appreciate it at its true value. ' Un
Royaume Anglo-Corse ' is very interesting. It is evi-
dently written by one who knows well the island and its
people. The fact that Corsica was for a short time a
dependency of England will, we think, be news to not
a few readers. ' The Novels of the Italian Renaissance '
shows great knowledge of what is in this country, at
least, an obscure subject. ' The Exodus of Pictures from
England ' is a well-written article on a painful subject.
We trust it may have the effect of making certain
persons ashamed of themselves.
A VOLUME by Dr. Smythe Palmer, dealing with the
influence of the religion of the ancient Babylonians upon
the Bible and popular beliefs, will be published imme-
diately by Mr. Nutt.
THE eighth and concluding volume of c The Roxburghe
Ballads ' will shortly be published. We congratulate
Mr. Ebsworth on the completion of his arduous work.
Few know how close that work has been. It is now
nearly twenty years since Mr. Ebsworth took over the
editorship from Mr. William Chappell, and during that
period he has enlarged the collection by the addition of
over eighteen hundred ballads, besides drawing and
engraving innumerable wood-blocks, all of which work
has been done gratuitously. The valuable collection will
have a copious index of the ballads, and will include the
historical names and events for the entire eight volumes.
MR. W. H. BAMBER, of Stoke-on-Trent, will sell by
auction, on the 26th inst., an interesting series (one of
the largest ever made) of Staffordshire works, prints, &c.,
of Mr. G. R. Simme, used in compiling his ' Bibliotueca
Staflfordieneis.'
patos to CflmsgrwtotttSv
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ON all communications must be written the name and
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as a guarantee of good faith,
WE cannot undertake to answer queries privately.
To secure insertion of communications correspondents
must observe the following rule. Let each note, query,
or reply be written on a separate slip of paper, with the
signature of the writer and such address as he wishes to
appear. Correspondents who repeat queries are requested
to head the second communication " Duplicate."
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LONDON, SATURDAY, MAT 29, 1897.
CONTENT S.— N° 283.
NOTES :— Remains of Lord Byron, 421— Unicorn Emblem
and Horn, 422 — "Dog- Latin " — Carrying St. Cynog —
Literary Women in the Seventeenth Century, 423— Breden
Stone — Immaculate Conception — " Returns " — Queen's
Head upside down— Thimble, 424— Relative Values of Eng-
lishmen and Frenchmen—' Letters of a Country Vicar '—
"Give him his beans," 425 — Misquotation — Work by
T. Short, 426.
QUERIES :— " Burvil"— W. B. Stevenson— Nelson's Breeches
" Fullams," 426— Stained Glass— Brudenell — Threatened
Invasion of England— Editions of Arthurian Legends—
" Harry-carry "— Townley— Artificial Flowers on Graves —
Christopher Packe— Public-houses— McKinley, 427— Songs
on Sports— Mortuary Observance— Yiddish— Private Auc-
tion with Closed Doors — Henri Waddington— Title and
Author of Book— Smith of Chichester— Early Headstones,
428— Peter Harrison— Authors Wanted, 429.
REPLIES :—" Sitting Bodkin" -Local Areas in North of
England, 429 — "Li maisie hierlekin "—" Buslet "—Um-
brella Folk-lore — Sharp's ' Bishoprick Garland' — J. G.
Whittier— Allan Blayney, 430 — " Harpie"— St. Patrick's
Purgatory — Cupples— Street Inscription, 431 — "Cacorne"
— " Dispatch " — Ploughwoman— " Three acres and a cow,"
432— Changes in Trade — Age of Yew Trees — Parish of Step-
ney—Dukes of Aquitaine— " To wallop," 433— Veil of Mary
Stuart— Graham— Lundy— Shakspeare and Holinshed, 434
— Surname Eyre — Dog Row, Mile End, 435 — True Date of
the First Easter — Allhallows=Holy Trinity — " Hell is
paved with good intentions," 436— Haselden— Early Lucifer
Matches, 437— Suffix "well"— Wooden Pitchers— " Cm "
—Bacon's ' Promus of Formularies '— Camoens and the
Siege of Colombo. 438.
NOTES ON BOOKS : — ' Examples from Early Printed
Books '— Munro's ' Prehistoric Problems '— Eeles's ' Church
Bells of Kincardineshire.'
THE HOME-COMING OP THE REMAINS OP
LORD BYRON.
The body of Lord Byron was embalmed and
brought to England in the brig Florida. The
corpse was put into an oblong wooden box, bound
with hoops of iron and perforated all over ; it was
then placed in a cask containing 180 gallons of
spirits. When finally coffined, four urns of Grecian
workmanship were enclosed with the body ; these
contained the heart, brains, &c., of the poet.
The circumstances of the debarcation of the
remains were accidentally witnessed by a gentle-
man holding an important magisterial office, and
upon the same day he addressed himself by letter
to a personal friend, a Mr. Smedley, as follows :
"I know that you are curious in such matters, and I
therefore send you an account of the melancholy eight
which I have seen to-day. As I was proceeding down
the river this morning I saw about midday a brig lying
at the London Dock buoy. She was about 250 tons
burthen, in mourning (black with a broad blue streak),
and curried at the main half-mast high a broad pennant,
or, more strictly speaking, a silk banner of dark
blue or purple charged with a baron's coronet proper.
Her ensign was hoisted in the same mournful way. Her
name, the Florida of London. On my return about ten
minutes or a quarter past four P.M. I saw one of Searle's
barges lying alongside ; a tackle was lowered from the
mainyard, and a coffin wrapped in black cloth came over
the larboard side of the brig nearly amidships, and was
received by some attendants in the barge. That coffin
contained the body of Lord Byron. There were a few
straggling boats about the ship, and after I had seen the
remains which lately contained the most towering spirit
in Europe placed in the barge and had directed my
people to preserve order and decency in the event of a
crowd of boats following it, I departed. When I left
the brig she was just swinging round with the flood tide,
and I afterwards learned that the barge proceeded up
the river entirely alone. Some of my people followed it
to London Bridge, but when my galleymen returned
after landing me at the Temple they met the barge
quite unattended just below Blackfriars Bridge. A
leaden coffin was brought to the brig in the course of
the morning, and my people who were on duty smelled
a strong scent of spirits, arising as they supposed from
the people on the brig starting the vessel which con-
tained the body, and pouring its contents overboard.
One of my men saw some staves and hoops put into the
boat, and these I conjecture to have formed the cask in
which the body was preserved. Great care seemed to be
taken that no one but the proper attendants should come
on board. On the starboard side was chalked ' No
admittance.' The quarter-deck was shrouded from
view by a mainsail, and the stern ports were not above
a quarter raised. I suppose the friends of the deceased
had issued orders for the greatest privacy to be observed,
but I could not help feeling that there was an air of
desertion about the scene which added to the melancholy
of it. On my return to the office this evening I saw the
brig working into the London Docks. The banner was
gone, and her ensign streamed gaily from the peak. —
Monday evening, 5 July, 1824."
The friends of Lord Byron hoped that a resting-
place would be given him in Westminster Abbey
and the application was made ; but the Church
dignitaries were obliged to refuse it for reason
which will appear.
A fine statue of Lord Byron was executed by
Thorwaldsen, and was intended for Westminster
Abbey, but for several years it lay at the London
Custom House unpacked, because the Dean of
Westminster would not allow it to be plaoed in
Westminster Abbey.
Petitions were presented to the House of Lords
and in the Commons, praying that Parliament
should interfere and induce the temporary keepers
of Westminster Abbey to admit the statue of the
illustrious poet within the walls of the great
national edifice. The following answer was sent
by the Dean of Westminster to Lord Brougham,
and read : —
" I have not had an opportunity till this morning of
consulting with the Chapter on the subject. When we
were previously applied to to inter the remains of Lord
Byron within the Abbey we stated the principle on
which as Christians, perhaps as Churchmen, we were
compelled to decline the proposal. The erection of a
monument in honour of his memory which you now
desire is in proportion subject to the same objection, and
though I greatly wish to have a figure by Thorwaldsen
in the Abbey, 1 cannot consent that my taste should be
indulged to the prejudice of my duty — that duty being
to listen to the slanders propagated against that great
man, for he defied any man to prove what his most
intimate friends could not distinguish — what his religious
principles were."
After lying so long rejected by the clerical
422
NOTES AND QUERIES. [8* s. xi. MAY 29/97.
authorities at Westminster, the statue of Lord
Byron by Thorwaldsen was in 1846 placed in the
Library of Trinity College, Cambridge.
HILDA GAMLIN.
Camden Lawn, Birkenhead.
j
UNICORN EMBLEM AND HORN.
The gateway of Rothsay Castle, Scotland, bears
the royal arms, having two unicorns as supporters.
This is probably the earliest example of two unicorns
as supporters, temp. James IV. (Journal of the
Archaeological Society, Ixv. 5). Two unicorns as
supporters appear on the nuptial ring of Mary,
Queen of Scots, 1558 ; also in a woodcut of
Mary's arms, on the title of ' Acts of Scotland,'
1566. And the same arms are stamped on the
cover of a book (Archceologia, 1849, xxxiii.
355). Good illustrations of the unicorn supporter
may be seen on the great seals of James I.,
Charles I., and Charles II., in Sandford, * Kings of
England,' pi. 514, 515, 517; and of James II.
and George I. in Knight, 'Old England/ ii. 192,
256 ; and on a medal of George I. in the same
work, vol. ii. p. 256. The Danvers arms, in York
Minster, 1507, have two unicorns for supporters
(Oust, 'History of Heraldry in York Minster').
Other notices of the unicorn are interesting and
curious. Moses, B.C. 1451, uses it as an emblem
of the great Hebrew house of Joseph. Jewish
Rabbinical tradition (Lewis, ' Antiq. Heb.,' b. vi.)
says that Joshua, B.C. 1440, coined money bearing
a unicorn on it. Joshua was of the tribe of Ephraim,
the son of Joseph (Stackhouse, ' History of the
Bible,' p. 1150, Deuteronomy xxxiii. 17, Numbers
xiii. 8). An ancient Roman gem bears the device of
a unicorn caressed by a girl (Montfaucon, ' Antiq.
Exp.,' torn. iii. Sup. pi. ii.). Edward IV. gave to
the Duke of Burguudy, on his visit in 1472, a gold
cup set with jewels and a piece of a unicorn's horn
in it (British Museum Additional MSS., 1613,
f. 103). It was supposed to guard against the
effects of poison in the cup (Archceologia, xxvi. 277).
At the marriage of Queen Margaret in London in
1468, at the grand banquet, on the corners of the
cupboard, were unicorn horns, the points garnished ;
and three others, in other places about it (Archceo-
logia, xxxi. 334). In the remarkable crypt under
the Chapter House, Westminster Abbey, was kept
in 1303, among the royal treasures, a unicorn's
horn (Archceologia, xliv. 378). The right hand
supporter of the arms of Queen Jane Seymour was
a unicorn (Strickland, * Queens,' iii. 15). The
zodiac is engraved on the round case of a clock of
1560, in which Virgo sits upon a unicorn (Archao-
logia, xxxiv.). Queen Elizabeth had a great
bezar stone set in gold with some unicorn's horn
wrapped in a paper (Archceologia, xxi. 153).
" At Castle Rising, near to Lynn Regis, in Norfolk,
•where the eea is making rapid encroachments on the
land, in sinking a short time ago for water there were
found at a depth of six hundred feet horns perfectly
straight, supposed to be those of the unicorn : these were
two feet long, an inch in circumference, and hollow ;
the medullary substance seemed to be petrified." — « Truth
of Revelation, '1831, p. 132.
Sculptured on the black Nimroud obelisk in the
British Museum may be seen a unicorn, of
which Forster (' Monuments of Assyria,' 1859,
pp. 102, 120) gives a good drawing and this
mention : —
" In the primitive Eastern sculptures, as may still be
seen at Persepolis and elsewhere, the unicorn ox was
quite as frequently introduced aa the unicorn horse or
the one-horned wild ass. Whether real or imaginary,
they portrayed this species of the bos. The group,
therefore, in the present instance consists, conformably
with its legend, of a two-horned and a one-horned wild
ox and a wild goat or antelope."
Waddilove (' Lamp in the Wilderness/ 1847,
pi. vi. p. 234) depicts the reverse of a coin of
Severus, A.D. 210, showing a man seated on a
rock, holding a spear in his left band, and a sceptre
terminated with a bull's horns in his right, his arm
leaning on a round shield bearing a bull's head,
with the legend " Britannia " and " S. C." in the
exergue. Upon which he has this note : —
" The coin of Severus, plate vi. No. 9, is introduced
as showing Britannia with an emblem borrowed from
2 Chron. xviii. 10 and Deut. xxxiii. 17, referring to
the destiny of the posterity of Joseph. ' His glory is
like the firstling of his bullock, and his horns are like the
horns of unicorns : with them he shall push the people
together to the ends of the earth : and they are the
ten thousands of Ephraim, and they are the thousands of
Manasseh.' '
Clement of Alexandria, A.D. 220, has the following
remark (Kaye, * Writings of Clement,' by W. B.,
p. 29), " We are truly children who know God
alone as our Father, simple, infantine, pure, lovers
of the horn of the unicorn (worshippers of one
God)." Tytler ('History of Scotland,' 1841,
vol. iv. pp. 329, 349, 353, 354, 356) has these
mentions of unicorns : James IV.
"was frequently obliged to coin his personal orna
ments, that he might procure money for the demands of
pleasure or the more serious urgencies of the state.
Treasurer's Books, July 27, 1497. ' Item, ressavit of Sir
Tho3 Tod for iii pund wecht, foure unce and three
quarters of an unce of gold in xxxvi lirikis of the great
chain, coined by the king's command, iiiicxxxii unicorns
iiiclxix Ibs. xvi shillings.' Ibid. Feb. 20, 1496. Again,
in the Treasurer's Books, Aug. 4, 1497, we find eighteen
links struck off the great chain, weighing thirty-five
ounces, coined into two hundred unicorns and a half.
Inventory of the Jewels and Money of James the Third.
Item in unicornis nyne hundrethe & four score. Item a
serpent toung and ane unicorne home, set in gold. Item
a covering of variand purpir tarter, browdin with
thri;>8illi8 & a unicorne. P. 356, Compt of schir William
Knollis, And with viiiclxxxii 1'i be nyne hundreth four-
score unicornis."
James I. ascended the throne in 1603, and brought
the heraldic unicorn into England. Malone sayj
Shakspere wrote ' The Tempest ' in 1611. It was
acted in 1613 before Prince Charles ; and in it we
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
423
find the only unicorn reference I have met in
Shakspere's plays (Act III. scene iii.) :—
Sebastian. A living drollery. Now I will believe
That there are unicorns, that in Arabia
There is one tree, the phoenix' throne, one phoenix
At this hour reigning there.
Grant ('Johnson/ 1887, p. 33) remarks on John-
son's translating Lobo's 'Voyage to Abyssinia,'
" The Portugese missionary, who relates that he
saw several unicorns, can hardly be considered a
trustworthy historian, but as an early book of
travels it has a certain value." Chamier (' Life of
a Sailor,' 1839, p. 88) relates the following incident
as occurring at Malta, when he was a midshipman
during the French war : —
" Our leader having taken a great fancy to the unicorn,
which stands on one aide of the grand entrance into the
church of St. John, to place as a figure-head to his
brother's yacht, he resolved to have the animal, and his
refractory crew were desired to be in attendance the
next night, in order to dislodge the cornuted creature.
The [rope] was placed round the unicorn's neck, and
about ten of us began, with a true sailor-like ' one, two,
three, haul,' to dislodge our victim. It was, however, BO
well fastened on its pedestal that we did not succeed."
A. B. G.
" DOG-LATIN."- -The other day I looked up this
expression in the following works : Brewer's,
Mr. Farmer's, the ' Century/ and the * Encyclo-
paedic ' dictionaries. The last-named has a quota-
tion from Macaulay's * History ' (chap, xxiii. ), and
Mr. Farmer gives a quotation from Mayhew's
* Great World of London.' ' N. & Q.' discusses
the term in several volumes of its First Series ; but
so far the quotation from Macaulay is the earliest
yet given for the use in the standard books of
reference. I therefore venture to give one or two
earlier examples. ID the c Comic Latin Grammar '
(Tilt, Fleet Street, 1839), p. 15, 1 find :—
" Dog Latin is the Latin in which boys compose their
first verses and themes, and which is occasionally
employed at the universities of Oxford and Cambridge,
but much more frequently at Edinburgh, Aberdeen, and
Glasgow. It includes medical Lutin and law Latin
1 Meus tuus ego ' — mind your eye."
Wright, in his 'Alma Mater' (1827), gives this
account of the term and its origin : —
"When Professor Farish presided over these schools,
he rendered himself as famous for the quality of his
Latinity as he has ever been for his great acquisitions in
science. I have already given one instance; another
specimen is this, which was due to a dog who had
impertinently made himself one of his audience, viz.,
' Verte canem ex.' Some will have it, that hence arose
the term ' Dog-Latin/ than which many things are less
probable, seeing that the reign of Farish was as far back
as 1786."— Vol. ii. p. 39.
I have not come across any instance of the term
during the last century, but I may add that in
the Student, vol. i. p. 358 (16 Sept., 1750), there
is part of the first canto of ' Hudibras ' " translated
into Latin doggerel " — a fact which seems to sup-
port the common derivation of the word.
In * Facetiae Cantabrigienses ' (1825) there is at
p. 69 another explanation of the term. The editor
of that work, by the way (Richard Gooch, of St.
John's College), was also the compiler of the * Cam-
bridge Tart ' — a fact which will furnish a long-
delayed answer to a question of MR. GANTILLON'S
in ' N. & Q.' some years back.
In the ' Life and Letters of Dr. Samuel Butler/
the famous head master of Shrewsbury, there is a
letter (vol. i. p. 127) from the Rev. S. Tillbrook,
dated Cambridge, 21 April, 1817, in which I
find : " The other day he [" my dog Pepper "
went with me to the public library in search of
dog-Latin, which he found in great abundance."
Since writing the above, I have been enabled,
through the courtesy of Mr. Anderson, of the
British Museum, to consult the new part of the
' N. E. D./ which has one quotation earlier than
Thackeray's ' English Humourists ' (1851) : " 1770,
D. Dalrymple (Ld. Hailes), ' Anc. Scot. Poems/
243 (Jam.). The alternate lines are composed of
shreds of the breviary mixed with what we call
Dog- Latin, and the French Latin de cuisine"
J. P. OWEN.
48, Comeragh Road, W.
CARRYING ST. CYNOG AT DEFYNOG IN WALES.
— St. Cynog was formerly much reverenced in
Brecknockshire, the parish of Merthyr Cynog
having been named after him. His festival was
in vogue in the remote parish of Defynog, till the
early part of the present century. It lasted a
week, and was accompanied by much festivity.
On the second Thursday of October (O.S.) a
market was held for the sale of meat, poultry, &c.,
in preparation for the feast, which began on the
following Sunday. Monday was the principal day,
and was known as " Dyddllun gwyl Cynog," i.e.,
the Monday of St. Cynog's feast. The carrying of
St. Cynog then took place. The ceremony is thus
described in a paper in the Archceologia Cambrensis
for 1853 (New Series, vol. iv.), p. 324 :—
" A man, sometimes a stranger, for the consideration
of a suit of clothes or money, enacted the part of Cynog ;
but the last victim was a drunken farmer. Cynog was
dressed in a suit of old clothes, carried once through the
village of Defynog, and then thrown into the river,
amidst the jeers and laughter of the people. The last
time this ceremony was performed was thirty years ago
last October."
The throwing into the water of the person repre-
senting the saint suggests one of those rain charms
treated of in detail by Mr. J. G. Frazer in his
' Golden Bough '; but in all likelihood the ritual
significance of the custom was latterly lost sight of.
J. M. MACKINLAY, F.S.A.
4, Westbourne Gardens, Glasgow.
LITERARY WOMEN IN THE SEVENTEENTH CEN-
TURY.—Hilarius Drudo, in his quaint 'Practica
424
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[8*8. XI. MAY 29, '97.
Artis Amandi' (1651), in discussing the literary
ability of the fair sex, mentions several classical
female litterateurs, and then adds : —
"Ac ne semper antiqua meditemur, sed paulo recen-
tiora contemplemur, Veniat in conspectum lilia Accursii
quam leges de loco superiore docuisse accepimus. Quid
dicam de Olympia Fulvia Morata] Cujus erudita scripta
nulla unquara delebit oblivio. Quid de Hyppolita
Taurella ? Cujus artificiosum, affectuosumque carmen,
cum legimus, amplexari, exoscuUrique compellimur.
Quid de Elysabetha Gonzaga? quam Bembus_ita laudat,
ut lapideum eum ease dicat, qui non unam hujus sessiun-
culam omnibus philosophorum ambulationibus et dis-
putationibus anteponat. Quid denique de Angliae regina?
quae hodie florentissimum regnum eumma sapirntia,
prudentitique administrat : ut Wesenbecius veteria poetas
versus ad earn vere accomodasse videatur : Vos geritis
juvenes animos muliebres. lllaque Virgo Viri. Hujus de
ingenii magnitudine, et cognitione linguarum, variaque
doctrina, et heroicis virtutibus nulla unquam setas, pos-
teritasque contisce?cet."
It is refreshing to know that the literary franchise
was extended to women, and their work appraised
at its true value so far back as 1651; but who were
the good female knights of the pen with whose
names the equitable Drudo has embellished his
pages? The erudite and masterful Queen Bess
we know ; but who were the daughters of Accursius
and Olympia Fulvia Morata ; and who Hyppolita
Taurella and Elizabeth Gonzaga ? My curiosity is
whetted ; can anybody slake it ? The encomium
on Queen Elizabeth (the queen alluded to, I pre-
sume) is interesting and valuable, coming from a
Dutchman, whose proclivities would hardly have
been Anglophilene with the glories of De Ruyter
and Van Tromp fresh in his memory.
J. B. S.
Manchester.
[Olympia Fulvia Morata, an erudite Italian lady, born
at Ferrara, 1526, died in Heidelberg, 1555. Her works
were published in B&le in 1558 with the title " Olympiae
Fulviae Moratae, mulierum omnium eruditissimae, latina
et graeco, quo habueri poluerunt Monumenta, cum erudi-
toruna judiciis e laudibus." Many illustrious women of
the name of Gonz*ga can be traced, but we know of
none named Elizabeth. For Hyppolita Taurella you
might perhaps consult C. G. Joecher, ' Allgemeines
Gelehrten Lexicon,' Leipzig, 1750-51, with continuations
and supplements by Adelung and Rotermund, 1784-87,
1810-19. A female Italian professor of law, a descendant
of Franciscus Accursius, brought to England by Ed-
ward I. from the Holy Laud, lived in Bologna. See
Bayle.]
THE BREDEN STONE. — Much has been written
about the stone used for inaugurating the Lord
Wardens of the Cinque Ports, and I am not aware
that it has been proposed to explain " breden n as
a form of breeding or growing stones, a sort of
natural conglomerate or pudding stone. Now this
Breden stone is no stone at all, but a relic of
Eoman wall, now preserved in the Drop redoubt
on the western heights at Dover, and utilized for
Lord Dufferin. For this purpose the site was
boarded in, and the officials occupied a platform
on which his lordship was seated over the relic ;
for indeed no one could settle down on the bare
compound, which consists of two large slabs, say
4 ft. across and 6 in. thick, posed in a slanting
form with the top edges at an apex, and a third
fragment below, something like a disarranged
cromlech. There can be no mistake as to the
material, which consists of layers of flint boulder
embedded in genuine Roman mortar mixed with
pounded red tile, and white tiles mingled with the
flints. A. HALL.
THE IMMACULATE CONCEPTION. — The Saturday
Review, 6 Feb., p. 134, states that this doctrine
was promulgated by Pius IX. in 1870. As a
matter of fact it was defined by Pius IX. 8 Dec.,
1854. GEORGE ANGUS.
St. Andrews, N.B.
" RETURNS." — I do not find this word in the
{ Century Dictionary,' and therefore make a note
of it. On passing a newspaper office, I observed,
printed in large letters on the doors, " Returns
only." The meaning is so obvious that I need
say no more. RALPH THOMAS.
THE QUEEN'S HEAD UPSIDE DOWN. — Folk in
general are not nowadays so careful as they
were years ago in the matter of affixing postage-
stamps to letters and receipt stamps upon bills,
and many never note whether the stamps are the
right way up or upside down. It was very diffe-
rent, however, before the rush and roar of this
half of the century began, for it was next door to
a crime, in the eyes of many, to affix a stamp with
the Queen's head the wrong way up. Many were
not only under the impression that Her Majesty
would " feel offended," but that if she took the
matter up personally, or told officials to act,
punishment could follow ! There are still, how-
ever, many people who look with horror upon a
postage-stamp upside down.
THOS. RATCLIFFE.
Workaop.
THIMBLE. —The following paragraph appears in
the Lincoln, Rutland^ and Stamford Mercury of
26 April, 1861, and, if I am not mistaken, I have
meb with the same thing in other words on much
more recent occasions : —
"To the Dutch the ladies of all nations are indebted
for the invention of the thimble, The Dutch achieved
this great invention about the year 1690."
How can this stupid error have arisen ? The
thimble is probably prehistoric. Thimbles in
some form or other must have been used by the
women who executed the rich embroideries of the
mediaeval time. The late Prof. J. E. Thorold
Rogers, in his ' History of Agriculture and Prices
in England,' mentions, under the year 1494, one
dozen thimbles, which cost 4s. (vol.; iii. p. 560).
What is, however, more to the purpose, they are
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
425
frequently alluded to by our old dramatists. Here
are two examples from the greatest of them.
In 'The Taming of the Shrew,' Grumio says : —
"I commanded the sleeves should be cut out and
sewed up again; and that I'll prove upon thee, though
thy little finger be armed in a thimble."— IV. iii. 149.
In ' The Life and Death of King John,' the
Bastard says : —
For your own ladies and pale-vieaged maids
Like Amazons come tripping after drums,
Their thimbles into armed gauntlets change,
Their needles to lances, and their gentle hearts
To fierce and bloody inclination. V. ii. 156.
In the early days of the Civil War between
Charles I. and the Parliament, when the citizens
of London were called on to send in their plate
to be coined into money, the royalist jesters made
fun of the Puritan dames, who were said to have
given even their silver thimbles to the cause.
EDWARD PEACOCK.
THE RELATIVE VALUES OF AN ENGLISHMAN
AND A FRENCHMAN. — The tradition cherished by
every schoolboy that one Englishman is equal to
three Frenchmen probably originated in the passage
quoted by Mahan from one of Nelson's letters :
" I always was of opinion, have ever acted upon
it, and never have had any reason to repent it, that
one Englishman was equal to three Frenchmen."
This insular conceit was rudely dispelled in the
case of a young man who went from this parish to
take a coachman's place in Paris. Writing home
on one occasion, he says : " You 've heerd tell how
one Englishman is a match for three Frenchmen ;
but don't you believe it, mother ; for I 've tried it,
and am now in the hospital." To hear the old
woman gravely recite this is a delicious piece of
comedy. HOLCOMBE INGLEBT.
Heacham, Norfolk.
* LETTERS OF A COUNTRY VICAR.' — This book,
detailing the troubles and consolations of a French
country cure*, has attracted a good deal of notice ;
but, as I think, the translator is not quite at home
regarding the English Catholic renderings of some
phrases, which to some extent jar upon the Eng-
lish Catholic reader.
Thus, the English version makes M. le Cure' speak
of people attending their u Easter devotions." Now
here "devotions" should be rendered " duties."
To attend the "Easter duties" is a well-known
familiar phrase, and simply means going to con-
fession and communion at, or about, the Paschal
season. But the term " devotions " is inadequate,
as it does not express the obligation — which the
word "duty," or "duties," does. Thus, to hear
mass every Sunday is a duty — a thing of precept,
of obligation ; whereas to hear mass on an ordinary
weekday is a matter of devotion — of pious choice.
Again, in this country we use the term "devotions"
for non-liturgical services, generally in the verna-
cular— prayers, hymns, rosary, or anything else
which may be provided in addition to, or instead
of, the Breviary offices, when such, from circum-
stances such as lack of clergy or singers, cannot
be chanted in church. But to " go to the Easter
duties" is a technical recognized phrase, not
properly represented by the term "devotions."
Again, M. le Cure" is made to say that he was
" preparing to celebrate holy communion." I
do not think he would have thus expressed himself.
You can give, or receive, or dispense, or administer,
communion ; but we should not speak of celebrating
the same. We should say *' celebrate mass,' :or
" the liturgy," or " the holy sacrifice," which, of
course, includes communion, at least of the priest.
But the priest would speak nob of "celebrating
communion," but of partaking of or receiving the
same. And communion can be given and received,
apart from mass, before, or after, or at any time
during the morning. We might say to a person,
"Did you go to communion?" or, "Did you
make your confession and your communion ? " but
I should never ask a person, " Did you celebrate
communion ? "
In some places, M. le Care and others speak
of high mass. The Country Vicar, being alone
in his charge, could not possibly have this, as high
mafis requires priest, deacon, and sub-deacon. He
could have low mass, with or without music, or
missa cantata — sung mass — but nothing more.
In one place the fast on Friday is mentioned.
There is no such thing as the Friday fast, unless
Good Friday. Ordinary Fridays (except when
they come on Ember Days, or fasted vigils, or in
Lent) are days of abstinence, which is not the
same thing as a fast. In England the Fridays,
like the Wednesdays, of Advent, are fast-days, but
not so, I believe, in France or other Catholic
countries.
I observe that Monseigneur, the bishop, is ad-
dressed as "His Grace"; and when the bishop
signs himself" yours in X'0,'' = " yours in Christo,"
= " yours in Christ," the translator, in a foot-note,
renders this "yours, &c.," which is a somewhat
inadequate rendering. GEORGE ANGUS.
St. Andrews, N.B.
" GIVE HIM HIS BEANS."— The saying of Pytha-
goras that, so far as the wickedness of the thing
was concerned, a man might as well marry his
grandmother as meddle with beans, long remained
a puzzle to the learned. For they, honest men,
seemed to think that on this matter Pythagoras
had either got a few leagues beyond the fine line
dividing genius from insanity, or else had be-
queathed posterity one of those deep and dark
things which, as Lord Dundreary says, " no fellow
can understand."
At last, however, an enterprising German dis-
covered the truth — truth trite and obvious as a
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NOTES AND QUERIES. p* s. xi. MAY 29,
nursery rhyme. To the Greek mind the bean was
what the ballot-box is to us, a symbol of politics.
For in Athens there were no printing - presses,
and had there been any the populace might not
have been able to understand the mystery of the
card and cross, hence voting in those days was
reduced to the simple expedient of placing a bean
in the box of the candidate you were disposed to
favour.
Thus all that Pythagoras meant by his grand-
mother and his beans was that the truly wise man
must abstain from such a mundane and distracting
thing as the pursuit of politics. We have only to
expand this German's hint a little, and take in a
few more facts, to find the origin of the seemingly
meaningless phrase, "Give him his beans."
Besides the ordinary political voting current in
ancient Athens, there was voting of another and
more solemn kind. Before a man could be expelled
the city he must be condemned to exile by the
suffrages of a given number of citizens. To deter-
mine the question a poll was taken, and, if it were
found that the number of votes was not up to the
required standard, absolution followed.
The general custom of deciding on a case of
ostracism was unquestionably that described by
Oourtine in his notes on Nepos: "Gives in
vase quodam testulas viritim in concilio ipsis datas
suffragiprum loco mittebant, in quibus quisque
nomen illius scribebat, quern urbe cedere voluisset."
But as beans were used in ordinary trials, where
white acquitted and black condemned, they were,
in all probability, used in the former case like-
wise ; and, if so, would it not naturally be said of
the ostracized that he had got " his beans " ?
0. 0. DOVE.
Birkdale, Southport.
MISQUOTATION. (See 8th S. xi. 339.)— In a
review of 'A Dictionary of Slang, Jargon, and
Cant ' there is the following sentence : " The latest
sillinesses or affectations of ' irresponsible ignorant
reviewers ' find their way, not seldom by the route
of 'N. & Q.,' into our great national lexicons."
May I be allowed to point out that Tennyson, in his
* Hendecasyllabics,' wrote : —
0 you chorus of indolent reviewers,
Irresponsible, indolent reviewers ?
F. 0. BIRKBECK TERRY.
WORK BY THOMAS SHORT.— Chalmers's < General
Biographical Dictionary ' gives a short account of
this writer, who was a physician at Sheffield about
the middle of last century. He contributed several
papers to the Philosophical Transactions— chiefly
about 'meteors." by which are meant auroral
appearances— and was also the author of a few
works. One of these is called, according to
Chalmers, 'A General Chronology of the Air
Weather, Seasons, Meteors, &c., for the Space of
Years.' It was published in 1749, but there
does not seem to be a copy of it either in the
ibrary of the British Museum or of the Royal
Society, nor can I find it mentioned in any library
catalogue which I have seen. Lalande includes
its name in his * Bibliographie Astronomique '
(though he erroneously gives the author's name as
Jacob, i. e. James, instead of Thomas, Short), and
says that it contains "une liste de toutes les
cometes dont les anciens ont parle", et de tons les
autres phe"nomenes ou me"te"ores." I do not know
whether Thomas Short was related to his more
famous contemporary James Short, the optician,
of Edinburgh. But I should be glad if any of
your readers could tell me how to procure access
to the above work. It is also mentioned in Rees's
'Cyclopaedia.' W. T. LYNN.
Blackheath.
We must request correspondents desiring information
on family matters of only private interest to affix their
names and addresses to their queries, in order that the
answers may be addressed to them direct.
" BURVIL."— It is said that early in the nine-
teenth century such a sentence as this might have
been heard in south Pembroke, " Now, then,
brats, be off to burvil, 'tis gwayin laat." I should
be glad to get more information about " burvil "
in the sense of " bed." THE EDITOR OF
' THE ENGLISH DIALECT DICTIONARY.'
Clarendon Press, Oxford.
W. B. STEVENSON. — Can any reader give me
information concerning W. B. Stevenson, the
author of a ' Historical and Descriptive Narrative
of Twenty Years' Residence in South America,'
London, 1825, 8vo. ? His book was translated into
French and German, and was printed by Prescott.
I believe he acted as secretary to Lord Dundonald
in the War of Independence. He visited England
about 1825, but I have been unable to trace him
after his return to America. E, I. CARLYLE.
NELSON'S BREECHES. — The late Miss Jane
Roteley, who was recently recorded as having left
property in Swansea to Greenwich Hospital, was
the daughter of Lieut. Lewis Roteley, the officer
of Marines who is represented as holding Nelson's
body in several depictions of Trafalgar. She
possessed, in succession to her father, the breeches
in which Nelson died, and often told me that she
should probably leave them to Greenwich Hospital.
Has she done so ? 0. W. D.
"FULLAMS." — This word, meaning a kind of
loaded dice, is commonly said to be derived from
the name of Fulham, " which, in the reign of
Queen Elizabeth, was the most notorious place for
black-legs in all England " (' Imperial Dictionary ').
Is there any evidence for this ? As the word is
8" S. XI. MAY 29, '97.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
427
spelt fullam in the 'Treatise on Dice-Play'
(1550), it has been suggested, with some plausibility,
that it may be simply " full ones."
HENRY BRADLEY.
Clarendon Press, Oxford.
STAINED GLASS.— Whereabouts, in the West
of England more especially, are there any collec-
tions of old stained glass ? 0. H. SP. P.
BRUDENELL. — Whose daughter was the Hon.
Mary Brudenell, wife of William Exton, and
mother of Richard Brudenell Exton, M.D,, 1755 ?
See Dr. Lee's 'List of Thame Church,' p. 626. I
do not find her name in any old Peerage.
LISLE.
THREATENED INVASION OF ENGLAND IN 1803.
-^•At this time numerous volunteer regiments
sprang into existence. I am very anxious to
obtain the names of the men that were raised in
Urmston (near Manchester) and who were annexed
to one of the Manchester companies. Can any
one say where the roll-call can be seen ? I have
tried this query in local papers — result, nil. I am
aware of the list of officers in the London Gazette.
RICHARD LAWSON.
Urmston, Manchester.
EDITIONS OP ARTHURIAN AND GRAAL LEGENDS.
—Who is the publisher of Sir F. Madden s ' Sir
Gawayne and the Grene Knight,' published about
thirty years ago for the Roxburghe Club? Is
there a translation (French or English) of 'The
Holy Graal* (Old German); also of 'Parzival'
and 'Titurel,' both by Wolfram von Eschenbach?
Are there English translations of 'Roman de
Percival,' by Cre* tien de Troyes ; ' Roman des
diverses Quetes de St. Graal,' by Walter Mapes ;
the Old French romances of ' Gauvain,' ' Percival '
(not Cre" tien's), and ' Tristan ' ? If not, what are the
best French editions of these ? E, W. P.
" HARRY- CARRY."— Thornbury, in his 'Tour
round England/ uses this word, which I do not
find in Forby, Spurden, or Rye. He says (vol. ii.
xix. p. 37) :—
" These narrow rows [at Yarmouth] created a necessity
for a special low, long, narrow vehicle, first introduced in
Henry the Seventh's time, and hence popularly known
as ( Harry-carries.' '
Can any East Anglian reader explain ? Q. V.
TOWNLEY. — I bought some time ago, for a few
coppers, on a second-hand bookstall, "Biblical
Anecdotes | Illustrative of | the history | of the |
Sacred Scriptures | and of | The Early Translation
| of them into | various Languages. | By James
Townley." The book is dated 1813, and was
printed by "B Crompton Fleet-street Bury."
The frontispiece has a pecthynen, or bardic staff,
with a specimen of bardic writing in the characters
known as ''Coelbren y Beircld." There are eight
staves in the pecthynen, each stave being run
into a frame on either side, exactly like a minia-
ture gate. The other illustrations on the same
page are a manuscript roll as used in the Jewish
synagogue and the papyrus reed. Who was
Townley ; and what led him to insert the pecthynen
in this manner ? D. M. R.
[James Townley, a well-known Biblical scholar and
translator from the Hebrew, concerning whom the ' Diet.
Nat. Biog.' will, before long, probably tell us all that is
known.]
ARTIFICIAL FLOWERS, &c., ON GRAVES. — Mrs.
Gamlin, in her recently published and highly
interesting volume entitled ' 'Twixt Mersey and
Dee,' states that in the porch of the church at
Heswall there hangs a notice to the effect that it
is impossible to keep the graveyard in simple and
reverent order without the co-operation of the
friends of the buried dead, and that, as it is illegal
to place artificial flowers, glass globes, cards in
bottles, or metal arrangements on graves, it is
begged that none will be left, as they are liable to
be removed ; but plants and natural flowers will
be permitted on application to the rector. Mrs.
Gamlin has not supplied the date (if any) of this
notice. Can any correspondent furnish the title
of an Act of Parliament or an order which would
make it illegal to place artificial flowers, glass
globes, &c., on graves 1 — a very pretty and common
custom at the present time.
EVERARD HOME CoLEMAN.
71, Brecknock Road.
CHRISTOPHER PACKS, OF COTES, co. LEICESTER,
—He was, I believe, Lord Mayor of London.
1654-5. He had a marriage licence, 4 May, 1669
(Vicar- General Archbishop of Canterbury), to marry
Elizabeth Herring, widow. This would be a second
or third wife, as his son was married in 1665. The
connexion with the Cliftons has been mentioned (6th
S. x. 517 ; xi. 56, 136). I should be glad to know
the origin of Christopher, and what foundation
there is for the statement that his family came
from Northamptonshire.
HENRY ISHAM LONGDEN, M.A.
Shangton Rectory, Leicester.
PUBLIC-HOUSES. — Can any of your correspond-
ents inform me whether there exist any lists of
public-houses in London prior to 1825 ? I have a
London directory of that date which gives such a
list, but I know of no older one. The various
editions of the 'Picture of London' give the
names of the leading hotels and taverns only.
J. P. Ri
McKiNLEY. — Rumour has it (though certain
periodicals of the United States, which may be
termed the organs of Celtic opinion, to wit, the Irish
World of New York and the Pilot of Boston and
other sheets, haye not as yet ventilated the fact)
428
NOTES AND QUERIES. [8»s.xi.MAT29,w.
that Mr. William McKinley, the new American
executive, a native of the State of Ohio, born in
1844, is the grandson of a Protestant United Irish-
man hanged (? in 1798) for a then unpardonable
bit of disloyalty against the British Government,
near Dervock (?), Antrim Co., during the height
of the Irish troubles at the end of the last century.
Perhaps some of the antiquarian readers of 'N. &Q.'
with a local knowledge of past minute Ulster
history will furnish an authentic version of the
affair. Does not the Scotch antiquary classify
McKinley as being a name of Scottish origin ?
KELT.
SONGS ON SPORTS. — Can any reader of 'N. & Q.'
direct me to a volume containing popular songs
about English sports ? I have the Badminton volume,
but that does not contain such favourite pieces as
"'Tis a fine hunting day" and " Come out, tis
now September," and is therefore useless to me.
GEORGE EEDWAT.
MORTUARY OBSERVANCE. — In 1799 died the
mother of a large family of children, wife of a
clergyman residing in Oxford, On the day of the
funeral "the Coffin, having been brought down,
was placed upon the table in the Dining-room.
All the family, dressed in deep mourning, after
morning prayer walked three times round the table,
the Coffin being covered with the Pall." This is
recorded in some notes — would there were more of
them ! — which a wise daughter jotted down from
the recollections of her mother and aunts, who took
part in this ceremony. Was it one that was gener-
ally observed ? ST. SWITHIN.
YIDDISH.— What is Yiddish, and who speak it?
IGNORAMUS.
From the German Jiidisch, a composite language,
spoken largely by Jews in London. See Barrere and
Lelund, under "Yid," "Yiddisher," "Yeddan," or
'Yeddican." See alao 'The Century Dictionary,' Funk
& Wagnalls, &c., and Athenceum, No. 3303, p. 212.]
PRIVATE AUCTION WITH CLOSED DOORS. — An
advertisement which appeared in the Athenaum,
17 April, p. 495, seems to me a curiosity. Perhaps
some correspondent can explain. One or two
theories occur to my mind, as they would to many
others ; but I refrain from offering them here. A
statement of facts, on the other hand, would be
most interesting. JULIAN MARSHALL.
HENRI WADDINGTON. — Can any of your corre-
spondents give me information as to the direct
descent of the late distinguished French states-
man Henri Waddington ? Was he the grandson
or great-grandson of Samuel Waddington, who
married Sarah Tyrwhitt, of Stainfield, Lincolnshire,
some time before 1755 ? And was the expatriation
of his family due to the will of Mrs. Samuel
Waddington's brother, Sir John de la Fountayne
Tyrwhitt, who, in 1755, left the ancient manor of
Stainfield (conferred on his ancestor by Henry
VIII.) to the Drakes of Shardeloes, Bucks, with
the right of bearing the name and arms of
Tyrwhitt, to the total exclusion of his sisters and
their sons, as well as the younger branch of
Tyrwhitt of Cameringham, from whom all the
Tyrwhitts now extant are descended ? Sir John
Tyrwhitt's mother was Mary Drake, of Shardeloes,
therefore the great-grandson of her brother had
no sort of Tyrwhitt blood. Yet Sir John Tyrwhitt
left him the estates with the name and arms of
Tyrwhitt, and thus his descendants, who are not
Tyrwhitts in the faintest degree, represent the
eldest branch of the family, while the Shorts
of Keal, and the Brackenburys of Spilsby, de-
scended from the two elder sisters, were disinherited,
and possibly the Waddingtons, descended from
the youngest sister, were entirely exiled. I want
very much to discover if this last surmise is quite
accurate. But what makes Sir John Tyrwhitt's
action the more puzzling is that the Drakes were
then, as now, wealthy people, having in five
generations secured four heiresses and co-heiresses
with valuable estates. It appears to me the
testator must have had a very deficient sense of
justice as well as of family feelings.
M. L. E. TYRWHITT.
TITLE AND AUTHOR OP BOOK WANTED.— Can
any one tell me the name and author of a small
volume of humorous poems, rather in the style of
'Rejected Addresses,' one of which, entitled
* Motherhood/ ends with the following lines ?— •
My hen has laid an egg I know ;
And only hear the noise she is making.
Another poem on 'The Cat' has the following
verses : —
They call me cruel ; can I tell
If mouse or songbird feels 1
I only know they make me light
And salutary meals.
For me they pour the cream-pot out,
And cull the choice sardine ;
But, ah ! I never more shall be
The cat I once have been.
V. K. BURKE.
Hill House, Long Melford.
SMITH OF CHICHESTER. — Is there any complete
list of portraits, &c., painted by the three brothers
Smith of Chichester 1 If so, where can it be seen ?
E. G. CLAYTON.
Richmond,, Surrey.
EARLY HEADSTONES, &c. — What is the earliest
known headstone or monument existing in a
churchyard the inscription on which is still intact?
I have come across many seventeenth century
monuments, but have only once seen a monument
of sixteenth century date with a perfect inscription.
It is a headstone, and stands in the churchyard at
Wellington, Somerset, is in splendid preservation,
8»S, XI. MAY 29, '970
NOTES AND QUERIES.
429
and has the following clearly cut in large capitals
'Here lyeth the bodie of lames Goddard who
departed this life the 21 of March 1589."
F. S. SNELL, M.A.
PETER HARRISON, ARCHITECT, is said to have
been born at York, 1716. He was the son oi
Thomas Harrison. He went early to New Eng-
land, where he produced the finest types oi
churches and public buildings in the colonies,
circ. 1750. Though of the first importance in
American architectural history, very little seems
to be known of him. Tradition connects his
name with Vanbrugh— - it is suspected erroneously —
but he may have had a hand in completing Blen-
heim Palace. Information concerning his family,
early training, and English works will be very
gratefully acknowledged.
SAMUEL F. BATCHELDER.
Old Cambridge, Mass., U.S.
AUTHORS OF QUOTATIONS WANTED. —
The jewelled arms of Autumn
Clasping the dying year.
MAURICE GRINDON.
And like a being all the world can scan,
Refresh the inner, clothe the outer, man.
DE V. PAYEN-PAJNE.
The partridge may the falcon mock
If that slight palfrey stand the shock.
W.
H. C.
"SITTING BODKIN."
(8th S. xi. 267, 354.)
Dr. Murray's definition of bodkin in this phrase as
"a person wedged in between two others where there
is proper room for two only " seems to me open to
amendment. In his earliest quotation — "Where
but two lie in a bed you must be Bodkin bitch-
baby must ye " (I copy from the original edition of
Ford's * Fancies/ 1638, p. 54)— not only is there
no connotation of such wedging, but the dramatic
situation rigorously excludes the idea. The passage,
which is without punctuation in the original, will
not bear minute explanation, but thus much may
be said : the word " bodkin" is applied to a page
'the Boy, the Babe, the Infant," as he is called
shortly before — by one of the dramatis personce
who accuses him of adultery with his wife. Neither
is there a hint of such wedging in the following
extract from the Records of the Mock Corporation
of Sephton (dated 14 March, 1790, eight years
earlier than the date of Dr. Murray's second
quotation), printed in Caroe and Gordon's 'Sefton,'
p. 278 :—
"Mr. Burgesa Bevan informed the Members pre-
sent that the absence of the worthy Recorder was
occasioned by his being obliged to attend the ensuing
Assizes at Lancaster, and that he was this day seen by
Burgesa West riding Bodkin in a Chaise on his way there,
with Two other Persona."
The italics axe in the book, or rather in the
Records.
Nor, again, is such wedging implied in the fol-
lowing anecdote connected with the wedding of
Joshua Stanger and Mary Calvert, 3 Aug., 1824
(Cornhill Magazine, May, 1890, p. 512) :-
"Speaking of that day, more than two generations
ago, Mrs. Stanger told me that Dora Wordsworth,
journeyed back to Rydal in their coach, and was all
the way miserable, as fearing she was de trop. ' But you
know, dear sir,' she said with a twinkle, ' newly married
people are so stupid that I always should recommend a
third person to ride bodkin — and we were quite sorry to
part with her, as we did at the bottom of Rydal Hill,
where her father was waiting to receive her and to wish
us joy."
These examples of " riding bodkin " will serve
to supplement those of " sitting bodkin " given in
the *N. E. D.,' if they throw no light on the
origin of the phrase, about which Dr. Murray is
silent. With regard to the replies evoked by the
query, it might have been added that the " sword-
case " suggestion is nullified by the fact that bod-
kin, as a weapon, meant a short dagger, not a
sword. The explanation grounded on the meaning
that the word has for the seamstress is too fanciful
for my approval. MR. MOUNT'S explanation —
which, be it noted, conflicts with the " wedging "
theory— is much more likely : the analogy of the
seat or board capable of sliding in and out to the
dagger in its sheath is obvious. But was such a
vehicle, fitted with such a " bodkin " seat, as MR.
MOUNT mentions, in existence in 1638? This
brings me back to the passage quoted from Ford,
which is anything but lucid. The words " where
but two lie in a bed " admit an explanation which
would make the quotation valueless as far as
regards the phrase "sitting bodkin": they may
imply nothing more than that the page is the third
person proverbially destructive of company. Some
words immediately preceding (one of these mean-
ing " puncture ") seem to stamp " bodkin " with the
primary sense of dagger, in which there may be an
allusion to the page's size ; but in so coarse a con-
text it is hard to say what it means. If the question
which I have asked above can be answered in the
affirmative, the passage will gain in more respects
than lucidity. F. ADAMS.
106A, Albany Road, Camberwell.
LOCAL AREAS IN THE NORTH OF ENGLAND IN
DANISH AND NORMAN TIMES (8th S. xi. 367).— It
may be presumed that such sokes or privileged
districts as Staindropshire appears to have origin-
ally been, would disappear when the whole county
of Durham was converted into an espiscopal palati-
nate.
I believe LORD BARNARD will find that Robert
fitz-Mal<Jred himself took the name of " de Nevill"
430
NOTES AND QUERIES.
after the death of his wife's brother without issue,
in 1227. This Norman family of Nevill was seated
at Burreth (now Brough-on-Bain), co. Lincoln, and
held lands in Manton and Raventhorpe of the
Abbot of Peterborough from the date of Domesday
Book, 1086, when their ancestor Radulf (de Nevill)
was the tenant, his name being given in full in one
instance. This Robert, called " de Nevill" in
* Testa de Nevill ' (p. 345), was then (c. 1230) in
possession of these lands as well as the quarter
knight's fee in Burreth. He also gave lands in
Malmeton (Manton) to Louth Park (' Mon. Angl '
i. 806).
The identity of Uchtred, Robert fitz-Maldred's
grandfather, is still uncertain. The 'Stemma
Veterum Comitum,' printed by Surtees, makes
him the son of Cospatrick, son of Earl Uchtred,
among whose descendants the name of Maldred
does not occur. It seems to me more probable
that Uchtred was a brother of the Earl Cospatrick,
in which case he would have been a son of Maldred
(younger son of Crinan, the thane and lay abbot of
Dunkeld, killed in battle, 1045), by Aldgitha,
daughter of the same Earl Uchtred, by his third
wife, King Ethelred's daughter Elfgiva ; this
Maldred being younger brother of Duncan, King
of Scots, murdered by Macbeth in 1039.
A. S. ELLIS.
Westminster.
" Li MAISIB HIERLEKIN " (8th S. xi. 108, 174, 271,
355). — In compliance with the request of your corre-
spondent I furnish references to the various articles
which have appeared in ' N. & Q.' on this subject :
1st S. iii. 165, 287, 465 ; 2nd S. i. 313, 436 ; 4tr> S.
v. 193 ; vi. 73, 143 ; xii. 483 ; 7tb S. ii. 347, 418,
455 ; 8th S. x. 472; xi. 108, 174, 271.
EVEBARD HOME COLEMAN.
71, Brecknock Road.
"BusLE-r" (8th S. xi. 324).— Let us be thankful
that, the * 0. E. D.' haviog done with letter B, the
English language has for the present escaped this
danger, in spite of the vogue that a contributor has
contrived to secure for the compound by a heading
in ' N. & Q.' and a consequent approach to im-
mortality in its index. I turn to p. 339, where I
read with mixed feelings an official utterance of
N. & Q.' to the effect that the latest sillinesses or
affectations find their way, not seldom by the route
of ' N. & Q.,' into our great national lexicons.
Let the English language grow as study suggests,
or science requires, or the voice of the street and
the workshop demands. Of this last class is " bus,"
a useful abbreviation, which the foreseeing man
who gave to the " omnibus " a name that it has
but lately justified must have been too practical to
object to. But if "buslet" should reappear, it
will, I venture to think, be in the dictionaries, not
in the streets, where the word is as little likely to
£nd acceptance as the "omnibuslet" which is
spoken of as possibly to follow. The inventions of
the weary writer of notes on the light things of the
day, justified in including in his mild facetiousness
some new form of syllables, without intention of
bringing a new word into permanent currency, are
perhaps the last source to which we should look
for valuable additions to the English language.
When a planet from such a source " sails into our
ken " (I thought it was " swims "), or in any way
wanders there, the sooner it wanders out of it the
better for us. KILLIGREW.
MODERN FOLK-LORE : UMBRELLAS (8th S. x.
472 ; xi. 332). —At this day in rural Suffolk it is
considered vastly unlucky to lay an umbrella on a
table, but I have not been able to learn the origin
of the superstition. It is not, I believe, mentioned
in ' Suffolk Folk-lore ' (Folk-lore Society, 1893) ;
but that work is without an index ! How can any
society professing to be in the least scientific issue
a work of this kind without any proper key to its
contents? JAMES HOOPER.
Norwich.
SHARP'S ' BISHOPRICS: GARLAND ' (8th S. xi. 87,
290). — Brag seems to be contraction of barghest,
which has been mentioned lately in ' N. & Q.': —
" The Barguest used also to appear in the shape of
a mastiff-dog and other animals, aud terrify people with
his shrieks. There was a Barguest named the Pick-tree
Brag, whose usual form was that of a little galloway, in
which shape a farmer, still or lately living thereabouts,
reported that it had come to him one night as he was
going home ; that he got upon it and rode very quietly
till it came to a great pond, to which it ran and threw
him in, and went laughing away." — Keightley's ' Fairy
Mythology,' p. 310.
E. YARDLET.
JOHN GREENLEAF WHITTIER (8th S. xi. 28, 91,
213, 315). — It may be of interest to English readers
to know that there is in Harper's Magazine for
January, 1884 (No. 404, vol. Ixviii. pp. 171-188),
with portrait, autograph, and numerous illus-
trations of his home and surrounding?, ancestral
and personal, an article on 'The Quaker Poet.'
It may possibly interest Americans to know that
in the county of Surrey, England, there is
a place called Whyteleaf, and that the adjoining
county of Sussex is, or was, celebrated for its
" wheatears," known from their gastronomic pro-
perties as "British ortolans."
THOMAS J. JEAKES.
ALLAN BLAYNET, M.A. (8tb S. xi. 329).— There
is a short life of Blayney in Wood's *Athenae
Oxonienses,' vol. ii. fol., 1692, col. 132. He was
first one of the servitors, afterwards a taberdar
of Queen's College, Oxford. He was admitted in
the beginning of the year 1625 (O.S.) at the age of
sixteen. He became M.A. in 1632, See also
u. s., vol. i. col. 870. He never was Fellow, but
obtained from the college the living of " Acton,
or AyketoD," in Cumberland, which he lost in the
8«* S. XI. MAY 29, '97.]
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431
time of the Rebellion. He retired to Standiah,
in Gloucestershire, where he officiated, as also in
the curacy of Whitminster near it. He was so
poor as to receive help from a tenant farmer with
whom he lived. The * Metropolis ' was first pub-
lished in 1652, "under the name, or letter B.,
who calls himself 'Pastor Fido, in exile'"
(Wood). It was again printed in 1654. It was
answered by John Collins, minister of St. Stephen's,
Norwich, in 'A Caveat for Old and New Pro-
faneness,' &c., London, 1653. He retired to Lon-
don, where he died. He translated into English
Buxtorf's 'Synagoga Judaica,' &c., London, 1656.
Lowndes notices this at " Buxtorf," not at his own
name. ED. MARSHALL.
There are brief notices of his book on Christmas
in ' N. & Q.,» 7th S. ii. 502, 505 ; iv. 502 ; x. 502.
W. C. B.
"HARPIE" OR "HARPY" (8ta S. xi. 47, 216
278).— Mr. Hugh Clarke's 'Introduction to
Heraldry,' 1873, has, p. 145 :—
" Harpy, a poetical monster, feigned to have the
face and breast of a virgin, and body and legs like a
vulture. PI. viii. n. 2. Azure, a harpy with her wings
disclosed, her hair flotant or, armed of the same. This
coat stands in Huntingdon church."
On this subject it may not be amiss to quote
from Mr. E. B. Tylor's ' Primitive Culture/ 1871,
vol. ii. pp. 243-4 : —
" JEolus with the winds imprisoned in his cave has the
office of the Red Indian Spirit of the Winds, and of the
Polynesian Mani. With quaint adaptation to nature-
myth and even to moral parable, the Harpies, the Storm-
gusts that whirl and snatch and dash and smirch with
eddying dust-clouds, become the loathsome bird-monsters
sent to hover over the table of Phineus to claw and
defile his dainty viands."
F. 0. BIRKBECK TERRY.
An instance of the introduction of harpies into
a decorative design may be seen in the south
transept of the collegiate church of St. Saviour,
Southwark. On the mural monument to John
Bingham, saddler to Elizabeth and James I., the
tablet bearing the inscription is surrounded by
scrollwork and flanked by a pair of harpies, boldly
carved. E. G. CLAYTON.
Richmond, Surrey.
ST. PATRICK'S PURGATORY (8th S. x. 236, 361,
463 ; xi. 229). — Your contributors' information
evidently does not go beyond Wright's essay on this
subject, and they do not know Canon O'Connor's
book ' St. Patrick's Purgatory, Lough Derg : its
History, Traditions, Legends, Antiquities, Topo-
graphy, and Scenic Surroundings,' Dublin, James
Duffy & Co., 1895, with plan, plates, and illustra-
tions. An article by the same author in the Catholic
Home Annual, Benziger Brothers, New York, 1897,
containing entirely new data and supplemental
bibliography, seems also to have escaped their
notice. Malatesta was the " Hungarian ;; who
made the pilgrimage in 1358, as MR. BADDBLEY
can see by referring to Rymer's ' Fcedera.'
THEODORE TYRONE.
" * Yes, by St. Patrick, but there is, Horatio/
Act I. scene v. line 136. Some have supposed
that there is a reference here to St. Patrick's
Purgatory, but this does not seem probable."
The joint editors of the Clarendon Press ' Hamlet '
so opine ; but I think the probability points
to there being a reference. If the purgatory from
which Hamlet's father nocturnally strayed did
not suggest the Irish saint to Shakespeare's mind,
what did 1 Why should a Danish prince swear
by St. Patrick ? Was he not the custodian of his
father during those awful days of fiery purgation ?
As I have pointed out, St. Patrick's Purgatory
was writ large across a contemporary map, as if it
was the most important place in the whole of Ire-
land. St. Patrick's Purgatory was known to other
Elizabethan dramatists, Dekker for instance : —
" Faith, that 's soon answered, for St. Patrick, you know,
keeps purgatory ; he makes the fire, and his countrymen
could do nothing, if they cannot sweep the chimneys." —
' The Honest Whore,' Part II., I. i.
"Ha, ha, ha. So, this is admirable, Shadow; here
end my torments in Saint Patrick's Purgatory, but
thine shall continue longer." — 'Old Portunatus,' IV. ii.
W. A. HENDERSON.
Dublin.
CUPPLES (8th S. viii. 207, 277, 390, 515 ; ix.
298). — This name is also to be found once in
Sand's 'Directory of N. S. Wales' (1889-90), but
the name Cuppels occurs several times in the same
directory. Both are doubtless different ways of
spelling the same name. Cupper may also be
another form of this name. Though less rare, it
yet only occurs twice in the 'London Directory*
for 1897. In the registers of St. James's, Clerken-
well, which contain a very large number of rare
and obsolete names, this name occurs once, viz.,
" Marriages, 1586. — William Lentall and Frauncis
Cupper "(June 28).
FREDERICK T. HIBGAME.
STREET INSCRIPTION (8th S. xi. 206, 314).— The
question seems to be whether the date on the
tablet is 1838 or 1858, as the stone itself is very
well known, and has been mentioned by many topo-
graphers (cf., e. g., Martin's ' Old Chelsea,' p. 133,
with an engraving, and Norman's ' London Signs
and Inscriptions,' p. 161). I fear this question
cannot be decided without a close ocular inspection,
as the figures are undoubtedly indistinct. I have
found among my notes a copy of the tablet, which
I took in 1893, and in which I first wrote 1858,
but subsequently erased the 5, and substituted a 3.
This would agree with Mr. Wheat ley's copy in
'London Past and Present.' On the other hand,
MR. PHILIP NORMAN, about the same time, read
the date as 1858 (8th S. v. 2). It may be as well
to mention, in view of a possible epidemic of notes
432
NOTES AND QUERIES.
on this topic, that a few years ago a most valuable
series of papers on London tablets and inscrip-
tions was published in < N. & Q.' by MR. PHILIP
RMAN and other London antiquaries ; and I
suld venture to suggest that only new discoveries
should now find entry into these columns. See
" S- v, 1, 41, 174, 201, 276, 316, 449, 475 ; vi.
94, 278, 331, 433 ; vii. 33, 212, 426, 455 ; viii. 78.
W, F. PRIDEAUX.
The inscription on a house in Danvers Street
was given in full, with comments, in < N. & O.'
for ! Jan., J894. Mr. Beaver's illustration at
68 of his ' Memorials of Old Chelsea ' repre-
Bnts, not this house, but one opposite to it, at the
auth-west corner, which, as Faulkner tells us,
was « formerly a public-house known by the sign
of the Angel." Its site still remains vacant.
PHILIP NORMAN.
"CACORNE»(8«> S, xi. 307).-AIthough I have
lived in Devonshire the greater part of my life, and
am well acquainted with the rural parts of it, I
have never heard this word used or met with it
excepting in Halliwell.
[feel pretty sure that it is practically unknown
in this county, and I am confirmed in this opinion
by the fact that at the 1896 meeting of the Devon-
shire Association for the Advancement of Science,
Literature, and Art, the sub-committee for collect-
ing and recording Devonshire provincialisms pre-
sented an index to their fifteen annual reports,
and, a though that index contains nearly 1,400 pro!
vmcialisms, no such word, or any at all like it, is
known to the committee. A. J. DAVY
but I may point out that in Welsh the windpipe
is always spoken of as "corn gwddwg' (literally
the throat horn). Could not the latter part of
cacorne be a survival of the Celtic corn ? I am
aware that against this theory there is the fact that
the word is not in use in Cornwall ; at least I can-
not trace it in any book of reference which I have,
D. M. R.
"DISPATCH," NOT "DESPATCH" (8th S. xi. 184).
—It is to be hoped that Dr. Murray will be suc-
cessful in his effort to obtain the correct spelling
of words according to their derivation. There are
just a few other common words, besides despatch.
on the spelling of which it is to be hoped that Dr.
Murray will make his voice heard, e. g., ascendant
and descendant. It is not possible for any private
individual to initiate a reform in spelling. I
suspect that all schoolmasters and teachers would
be grateful to Dr. Murray if he would obviate the
necessity they are continually under of teaching
children that they must acknowledge a rule, but
bow to custom,
PBNNT, LL.M., Madras Chaplain.
Fort St. George.
This Devonshire word, which is also sometimes
spelt kaeorn, e.g., «'A might call till his keacorn
was raw » (T Hardy, « The Mayor of Casterbridge,'
•V), is the same word (as the editor of the
Dialect Dictionary ' is, no doubt, well aware) as
keckcorn the windpipe (? for keckern, keckering),
also found as keeker, a derivative of keck, to retch
bawk, or clear the throat, or generally to breathe
noisily. Foreign cognates are Ger. keichen, to
pant or breathe asthmatically ; M. H. Ger
kichen to .gasp; Dan. kig.(hoste) = Eng. oWn(Jb>
(cough); Dut. kuchen, to cough. The Scotch have
kigh a slight cough, and kecht, a consumptive
A. SMYTHE PALMEE, D.D.
South Woodford.
May not this word be a fanciful spelling of
keckhorn, which is given in Mr. W. H. Long's
Dictionary of the Isle of Wight Dialect,' 1886
and glossed 'the windpipe, cenerallv of an
animal »? Mr. J. Y. Ake'rnL's 'Wiltshire
Glossary,' 1842, has "Keeker, the windpipe."
F. C. BIRKBECK TERRY.
f ui the ^efatigable editor
Che English Dialect Dictionary 'as to this word,
PLOUGHWOMAN (8th S. xi. 249, 312).— Sturdy
damsels on Scottish lowland farms can do most of
the work that usually falls to the lot of their male
colleagues. This is probably not so commonly the
case since the advent of the School Board, which
has affected in so many ways the outlook of the
working classes. But our predecessors, a genera-
tion or two back, saw their own sphere of action
steadily and " saw it whole. " The farm girl, while
probably not attempting the high arts of sowing
and building, could do almost anything else,
whether « about the town" or in the fields. She
could handle the scythe and the pitchfork, and she
was an adept at the management of cart and
harrows. can vouch for at least one instance
of a Scottish ploughwoman. A certain buxom and
muscular Jessie Paton used to plough her uncle's
farm of Muiryett, parish of Cambusnethan,
Lanarkshire, her latest appearance having been
made as recently as February, 1857. She is still
hale and hearty — grandmother, too, curiously
enough, of a veritable and charming little
Dorothy "—and she remembers with satisfaction
and pleasure the days when she turned the lea,—
Grasping the stilts in her pride, driving the mtehtv
machine.
E. MILLAR.
f THREE ACRES AND A cow" (8th S. xi. 365).
—Whether Mr. Collings was the originator of the
phrase customarily attributed to him is, I believe,
a moot point ; but it is to be noted that the "acres"
idea is an old one in either proposed or provided
British legislation. Mr. Lecky has told how in
1774 a gentleman was indicted at the Chester
Assizes for having broken a law of Elizabeth
S. XI. MAY 29, '97. j
NOTES AND QUERIES.
433
which, in order to prevent the increase of the poor,
made it penal to erect any detached cottage with-
out accompanying it by four acres of freehold land.
And James Thomson, the weaver of Kenleith, in
hia poems, originally published in 1801, exclaimed :
Tell ye the lairds, baith ane and a',
To let their grund in pieces sma',
An acre, or it may be twa.
As bodies need it.
ALFRED F. BOBBINS.
Napoleon Bonaparte, at the setting out of the
expedition to Egypt, 1798, promised " the meanest
of his soldiers seven acres of land." He admitted
that the multitude were led by children's rattles,
but he dared not tell them so. (' History of
Napoleon Bonaparte,' Murray's Family Library,
1835, vol. i. pp. 125, 253.) W. 0. B.
CHANGES IN TRADES (8th S. xi. 364).— Old
Londoners will, no doubt, remember the trunk-
maker's at the " corner of St. Paul's, next Cheap-
side" (Bandy's in my time), with its stock of
portmanteaus, hat-boxes, straps, &c. It was the
last of the open shop-fronts in Cheapside. One
hundred years ago there were many of them. A
cellariuan would not require a pair of " bottling
boots," as only one is necessary to receive the
bottle during the operation of driving the cork
home. S. P. E. S.
A bottling boot is explained 8tb S. vi. 329, 497.
W. 0. B.
THE AGE OP YEW TREES (8th S. x. 431 ; xi.
276, 334). — A delicious little cut of the Darley yew,
with accompanying letterpress, appeared in the
Illustrated London News of 10 February, 1849.
Its age is, however, there stated to be "exceeded
by that of several others in England," notably
those at Fountains Abbey. Various interesting
items concerning yew trees will be found as fol-
lows : — The Saturday Magazine, 25 August, 1832;
the Literary World, 6 June, 1840 ; Hants and
Surrey Times, 26 October, 1889.
JOHN T. PAGE.
West Haddon, Northamptonshire.
PARISH OF STEPNEY (8th S. xi. 328). — In reply
to A. T. M. it may be well to quote what Mr. W.
Thornbury says in his * Old and New London '
(ii. 142) about children born at sea belonging to
this parish. He speaks of it as " an old tradition
of the East-End of London," and adds : —
" This rather wide claim on the parochial funds has
often been made by paupers who have been born at sea,
and who used to be gravely sent to Stepney from all
parts of the country; but various decisions of the
superior courts have at different times decided against
the traditional claim."
Mus IN URBE.
Some of the inhabitants may like to know that
I have a copy of the rare ' Cromwell's Bible,' 1539
(often erroneously called Cranmer's), with this
writing at the end of the text of the New Testa-
ment: "Alhalows Stepney, In London." Then
added in a different hand, "and after (1574)
Bought by William Yveson in tyme that was
churchwarden." I suppose it should read "the
time he was churchwarden." There is no name
before "Alhalows." R. B.
Boston, Lincolnshire.
See «N. & Q.,' 3rd S. x. 291, 345, 379 ; 4th S.
vi. 547 ; Gent. Mag., 1814, ii. 403. W. 0. B,
DUKES OP AQUITAINE AND NORMANDY (8th S.
xi. 369),— See 8"> S. ix. 388, 432. I have the
order of George IV. 's procession in Huish's
account of his coronation. I do not see these
dukes in it. It may be very safely taken for
granted that they did not reappear under William
IV. or Victoria. C. F. S. WARREN, M.A.
Longford, Coventry.
" To WALLOP" (8th S. x. 397, 463 ; xi. 372).—
It is not necessary to tell readers of 'N. & Q.1
that ' Le Morte Darthur ' was written before the
reign of Henry VIII. Very well. In book i.
cap. xxii. may be read : —
" Then toke Gryflet his hora in grete haste/ & dressyd
his sheld and toke a spere in his hand/ and so he rode a
grete wallop tyll he cam to the fontayne." — Malory's
' Morte DArthur,' Oskar Summer's reprint of Caxton'a
edition, 1889, bk. i. cap. xxii. p. 69.
" Lepe vp in to the charyot sayd the carter/ and ye
simile be there anone/ Soo the carter drofe on a great
wallop/ and sir launcelots hors folowed the charyot."—
Id., bk. xix. cap. iv. p. 778.
These extracts entirely support MR. BATNE ; but
the word is as common as "to-day," or "yester-
day." E. E.
Boston, Lincolnshire.
Quotations for wallop in both senses. The
former Dr. Murray may possibly deign to accept ;
the following expansion of Scripture, well known
by me some forty years back, he may probably
disdain : *' Then took Griflet his horse in great
haste and so he rode a great wallop till he
came to the fountain " (* Morte d' Arthur,' Globe
edition, p. 45). " I thank thee, said King Pelli-
nore. Then he rode a wallop till that he had a
sight of the two pavilions " (16., p. 72).
Solomon said, in accents mild,
Spare the rod and spile the child ;
Be they man or be they maid,
Whip 'em and wallop 'em, Solomon said.
0. F. S. WARREN, M.A.
Longford, Coventry.
Skeat gives "to boil " as the meaning of wallop.
May not the transition to " to thrash " come
through the idea expressed by, " I '11 warm your
jacket for you," which is a common expression ?
Then, " a walloper," applied to a big lie or a big
gooseberry, will be one that " beats " the ordinary
434
NOTES AND QUERIES. [«-IXLIIH»W.
for size. I remember a London boy, just com-
mitted to an industrial school, asking, naively,
What's the good of your mother except to
wallop you ? " B.
This word is classical to a certain extent. I
remember since my boyhood, now sixty years
ago, a favourite humane song, of which this was
the burden : —
O ! things is come to a pretty pass,
When a man may not wallop hia own jack-ass.
E. WALFORD.
VEIL OF MART, QUEEN OF SCOTS (8th S. xi.
67).— This precious relic was exhibited at the
celebration of the tercentenary of the execution
and burial of Mary, Queen of Scots, at Peter-
borough, 19 July to 9 Aug., 1887. From pp. 28, 29
of the Catalogue I copy the following description :
"No 123c. The Veil worn by Queen Mary at her
Execution. The lady who preserved it after Queen
Mary s Execution, was Anne, wife of Philip Howard,
barl of Arundel, and sister of Thomas, Lord Dacre of
Gillesland, and from her possession it passed into that
of the bociety of Jesus. How it came back to the Stuart
family is not known, possibly not till the Jesuits were
suppressed at Rome in 1773. There does not seem to be
any record of its having been in the possession of James,
Son of King James II., who died in 1765 before that
event, but there is the seal of his son, Charles Edward
17«8 n *rWh,1Cv ?ontains th° veil, and he lived till
1788. Cardinal York left it by his will to Sir John Cox
Hippesley Bart., who had been concerned in the nego-
tiation with the English Government for obtaining a
pension for the Cardinal, and since then it has remained
SJ £,T-87B10n o/t^ gentleman's representatives.
^f i"80"?*1™ on the border round the veil, which was
added to it when it was in the possession of the Jesuits,
flLSL S2 : Ye™m "^"tow Maria* gcotiae et
Galhas Regmae et Martyris quo induebatur Dum ab
hereticis ad mortem injustisRimam condemnata fait anno
Salutis MDLXXXVI a nobilissima Matrona Anglica diu
religiose conservatum et tandem devotionis ergo Deo et
«°^± ^68U8,uT8eCrafum-' The contractions being
written at length here. Lent by Mrs. Homer."
An account of the exhibition appeared in the
Northampton Herald of 13 August, 1887, over the
initials « J. S. S.» From this I copy the following
sentence : —
"Another deeply interesting relic is the lace veil worn
by Mary at her execution (isfflc); but although a Ton g
pedigree » given in the descriptive catalogue, and it if
raced step by step to its present owner (Mrs Homer !
U^mi! i" /?ly °onyincing- a»d sceptics, we are
1, will be found to throw doubt upon its genuineness. ."
?°i-^nk ?£ r-elic Was exhi*>ited at the
xhibition held in London in 1889 At
any rate I cannot Hnd it recorded in the pages of
e catalogue, nor do I remember seeing it. Woul d
that the late lamented CDTHBERT BEDE had been
Jtffl amongst us Then I know the columns erf
JN. • & Q. would have been enriched with some
pertinent remarks from his pen in reply to
G W. WRIGLEY'S query. JOHN T. PAGE.
West Haddon, Northamptonshire,
GRAHAM FAMILY (8th S. xi. 382). —The state-
ment by J. G. as to James Grahame, advocate
author of a 'History of the United States of
America,' who died in 1842, is interesting for this
reason. In a work by Dr. Smiles, ' A Publisher
and his Friends' (vol. i. p. 319), speaking of Lady
Oalcott, he says her first husband was Capt.
Graham, R.N., nephew of James Graham, author
of ' The Sabbath '; and in her letter to Mr. Murray
on 9 Dec., 1815, from Broughty Ferry, she speaks
of Capt. Graham's sister as then living with them.
J. G., however, says nothing of the naval captain
or his sister, merely naming James Grahame,
another nephew of the poet, who died in 1817, a
young man of twenty; so it would appear Dr.
Smiles is in error. Was Richard Graham, of the
Mote, Annan, whose only child married the poet,
connected with the Grahams of the Mote, a branch
of the Grahams of Netherby, the first of whom was
'Longe Will Grame," banished from Scotland
early in the sixteenth century? This latter
Mote," however, was the Mote of Liddell,
fifteen miles from Annan, on the English side of
the March. The great Lord Burghley took much
trouble to understand the intricate relationships of
these Border Grahams, as several statements drawn
up for him in the ' Border Papers ' show; but they
still puzzle Cumberland antiquaries. B. J. '
LUNDY (8* S. x. 272, 506 ; xi. 172).— In the
National Encyclopaedia ' it is stated, sub " Puffin,"
that "enormous numbers have bred since early
times on Lundy Island, which derives its Scan-
dinavian name (lunde, puffin ; ey, island) from this
fact." With regard to MR. RATCLIFFE'S note at
the first reference, I may remark that lundy is
given in Mr. S. 0. Addy's ' Glossary of Words
used in the Neighbourhood of Sheffield ' (E.D.S.),
and is explained as "awkward, clumsy, heavy;
also strong, muscular."
F. C. BIRKBECK TERRY.
^ SHAKSPEARE'S ' MACBETH ' AND HOLINSHED (8th
S. xi. 321). — The following graphic account on the
above subject may be of interest from John Hill
Burton's < History of Scotland,' 1867, vol. i. p. 369 :
'Macbeda=Macbeth.— Malcolm was succeeded by
his grandson Duncan. There was little noticeable in
his life but its conclusion in the year 1039, at 'Both-
gowan W a smith's hut.' The person who slew him,
whether with his own hand or not, was Macbeda, the
Maarmor of Ross and Moray the ruler of Moray,
*nth, and Loch Ness northwards The Maarmor's
wife was Gruach, a granddaughter of Kenneth IV. If
there was a grandson of Kenneth killed by Malcolm,
this was his sister. But whether or not she had this
inheritance of revenge, she was, according to the Scots
authorities, the representative of the Kenneth whom the
grandfather of Duncan had deprived of his throne and
life.. ....This man, in a manner sacred to splendid in-
famy, is the first whose name appears in the ecclesiastical
records both as a king of Scotland and a benefactor of
the church ; he is the first King of Scotland who is said
by the chroniclers to have offered his services to the
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Bishop of Rome. Macbeda waB killed at Lumphanan,
Aberdeenshire, 1054, by Malcolm, the son of Duncan.
However he, Macbeth, may have gained his power, he
exercised it with good repute, according to the reports
nearest to his time. The variations in the spelling of
these old names are pretty profuse, and among them
one could have easily selected the name of Macbeth.
It seemed, however, that it would really tend to dis-
tinctness by keeping clear of a name summoning a story
so different from the meagre outline which the genuine
materials of history have preserved. We must abandon the
grand accessories, too, as well as the characters. Archaeo-
logy will not concede to Macbeth a great feudal castle,
with its towers and dungeons and long echoing passages.
He would have to inhabit a rath — a set of buildings of
wood or wattles on the top of a mound, fortified by
stakes and earthworks. For dresses, we know that the
common tartan of the stage wag no more in use than
the powdered hair, small-clothes, and laced waistcoat
in which Garrick used to burst on the stage after the
murder to freeze the audience with horror ; yet it would
be difficult to find anything more appropriate, and the
armour and the heraldic surcoats of the days of the
Plantagenets would be as unhistorical as either. Shak-
spere followed the histories he had before him, probably
the 'Chronicle' of Holinshead (1577). No man of his
age could have helped him to the truth ; and, in fact,
it may still be eaid that, with one admission, Macbeth is
no exception to his marvellous power of seizing and
giving life to the reality of historical conditions. Bring
it down 250 years and it takes us thoroughly into the
life of the feudal court of Scotland. Shakspere took a
like meth <d with King Lear and Hamlet, and he no
doubt knew what he was about. There seems, indeed, to
be no other way of giving poetry to times we are un-
acquainted with except by taking the details from times
we know of. It would seem that the mind will not be
content with utterly imaginary details — they must relate
to things known to have existed ; and if the existences
in costume, manners, and otherwise of the time dealt
with are not known, then they must be taken from
some other time. Romances about the Franks, the
Romanized Britons, the early Saxons, and the like, when
they affected an accurate adherence to the details of the
period, have generally been failures."
RICHARD HEMMING.
Ardwick.
THE SURNAME EYRE (8th S. xi. 383).— With
respect to this name it is recorded that the Eyres
came into England with William the Con-
queror, and the first of the family was Truelove,
who at the battle of Hastings saw William flung
from his horse and his helmet beaten into his
face, which he removed, putting; him on his horse
again. The Duke told him, " Thou shalt hereafter
from Truelove be called Air or Eyre, because thou
hast given me the air I breathe." After the battle,
the Dake, finding Eyre severely wounded, his leg
and thigh cut off, ordered him the utmost care, and
gave him lands, and the leg and thigh in armour
cut off for his crest, an honorary badge yet worn
by all the Eyres in England. The name is also met
with in the Pyrenees, and in France, as in Bor-
deaux, where we find Rue des Eyres, and sometimes
we see D'Eyre and 1'Eyre in old deeds.
The name occurs among the adherents of
Henry VI. in 1433, and John Eyre of Wed-
hampton was M.P. for Sarum in 1571, and his
cousin Robert Eyre of Chilhampton was Bencher
at Lincoln's Inn in 15 James I., his arms being
still emblazoned in the western window of the
hall. Robert Eyre's grandson Sir Samuel Eyre
was appointed one of the judges of the Court of
King's Bench in 1694, and his cousin Sir Giles
Eyre, Knt., Recorder of Salisbury, was another
judge of the Court of King's Bench in 1695.
Sir Samuel's son Sir Robert Eyre of Newhouse
became Lord Chief Justice of the Court of Common
Pleas and Lord Chief Baron in 1723. His brother
Henry Samuel Eyre purchased in 1732 the St.
John's Wood estate of 500 acres of the Earl of
Chesterfield, whose uncle Lord Wotton had ob-
tained it for 1,300Z. from Charles II., a portion of
which has been taken lately by the Manchester and
Sheffield Railway, which by arbitration was taxed
to pay upwards of 301,OOOJ. for what was
required. He being without issue, he left the
estate to his nephew Walpole Eyre, born in 1735,
who was named Walpole after his godfather Sir
Robert Walpole, the First Lord of the Treasury
and Chancellor of the Exchequer, 1721-42 ; he
was said to have married ' ' the most beautiful
woman Sir Joshua Reynolds ever saw," and un-
fortunately he died in 1773 from poison through
food cooked in a copper vessel for a public dinner,
and his wife died in 1823 after a second mar-
riage. The Eyre estate passed to his son Henry
Samuel Eyre, a colonel in the Guards, and he, dying
in 1851, left a life interest in it to his brother
Walpole, whose son, the Rev. Henry Samuel Eyre,
inherited the property from his cousin George John
Eyre of Brighton, at his death in 1883 ; and the
reverend gentleman, dying in 1890, left the whole
in equal portions to his five children, three sons and
two daughters, the youngest of the latter marrying
the Rev. J. Richardson-Eyre, Vicar of All Saints',
St. John's Wood, who took the name of Eyre
affixed with his own on his marriage. Thus the
family can show a lineage equal to that of many of
our aristocracy, and are allowed to adopt the cap of
maintenance on their coat of arms and the mailed
leg as a crest, with the motto " Virtus sola
Invicta." ESSINQTON.
DOG Row, MILE END (8th S. xi. 325).— May
not Dog Row have had a similar etymology with
the not far distant Isle of Dogs, said to have been
where Charles II. kenneled his spaniels ?
THOMAS J. JEAKES.
My ancestors, certainly for three generations,
were born in High Street, Whitechapel, and my
own recollections of the neighbourhood go back
very clearly for fully fifty years. So long ago as
then the dog market had been removed from Dog
Row to Club Row, and was held on Sunday
mornings, The name was changed from Dog Row
to Cambridge Road about the date my father was
436
NOTES AND QUERIES. [8* s. xi. MAY 29, •»?.
special constable at the time of the Chartists —
1849 or 1850. HARRY HEMS.
Fair Park, Exeter.
Messrs. K. and J. Dodsley in their * London
and its Environs ' (London, 1761) say that Dog's
Kow received its name from a sign. I possess
eleven plans of London issued between 1708 and
1823, in all of which that name appears ; but in
another plan, published in 1832, it was changed
into Cambridge Road, which name it retains.
EVERARD HOME COLEMAN.
71, Brecknock Road.
TRUE DATE OF THE FIRST EASTER (8th S.
viii. 465 ; ix. 135, 175, 256, 309, 356 ; xi. 335).—
From the canon of Ptolemy we learn that Arta-
xerxes I. came to the throne on 1 Thoth, or
17 December, B.C. 465, that is to say, somewhere
between 16 December, B.C. 465, and 17 December,
B.C. 464. Hence the fifth month of the seventh
year of the king lay between the middle of May,
B.C. 459, and the middle of May, 458 (see
Ezra vii. 8 and Daniel ix. 24, 25). The year
began in the autumn, 1 Tisri. Counting from
autumn B.C. 459 and from autumn 458 (to the
middle of the seventieth week), 486 5 years, we
reach the spring of A.D. 29 and the spring of 30.
The first cannot be correct, therefore the true
date of the first Easter was in the spring of A.D. 30.
The Crucifixion took place on 7 April Julian or
5 April Gregorian. W. A. B.
ALLHALLOWS=HOLY TRINITY (8th S. xi. 328).
— Dr. Lee, in his * Glossary of Liturgical and
Ecclesiastical Terms/ London, 1877, says that
Allhallows is another name for All Saints' Day,
and that there are several churches in England
dedicated to God under this invocation, of which
no fewer than eight are found in the City of
London.
John Brady, in his ' Clavis Calendaria/ describes
Allhallows in the Protestant Church to be a day
of general commemoration of all those saints and
martyrs in honour of whom, individually, no par-
ticular day has been expressly assigned.
EVERARD HOME COLEMAN.
71, Brecknock Road.
There are six old churches in the City of London
dedicated to Allhallows, namely, All Hallows,
Barking ; All Hallows, Bread Street ; All Hallows
the Great, Thames Street (with which is now in-
corporated All Hallows the Less, burned at the
time of the Great Fire) ; All Hallows Staining,
Mark Lane ; All Hallows, Lombard Street ; All
Hallows, London Wall. Of these Stow says the
one in Mark Lane was called Allhallows Stane
Church to distinguish it from others of the same
name in the City, which were then built of timber.
If this be true it must have had a very early
origin. My old friend the late George God-
win, F.S.A., in his ' Churches of London' (1839),
referring to the name Allhallows, says (p. 2) : —
" About the year 834 the Emperor Ludovicus ordained
tbat the festival of All Saints, or All Hallows, as it is
termed, should be solemnly celebrated in France on that
day for ever — which example was followed by the whole
Church, and many religious buildings were dedicated in
honour of that festival. Nearly all the churches so dedi-
cated which remain in London — and they are numerous
— are of old foundation."
And again, in a foot-note on the same page : —
"The 1st of November, or All-hallows day and its
vigil, known as Hallow-E'en, are even now regarded as
festivals amongst the peasantry in many parts of Eng-
land, Ireland, and Scotland. On Hallow- E'en it has been
customary for youths of both sexes to assemble together
' to burn nuts, 'to 'BOW hempseed,' and practise various
other charms, with a view to penetrate futurity — ever a
ruling passion in an early state of society — and ascertain
the name and features of their future partners. Bonfires
were lighted on elevated ground, and it was made a night
of general festivity."
HARRY HEMS.
Fair Park, Exeter.
There has been a prevalent misconception as to
the dedication of Lydd Church. It is properly
All Saints, but
" Lydd was remarkable for the number of Fraternities,
or Guilds, of lay parishioners, which were connected
with its church. Tbat of the Holy Trinity was so
important that, in one official document, the church
itself is erroneously stated to be dedicated to the Holy
Trinity. On the 1st of April, 1409, the Feast of the
Dedication of the Church was transferred, by authority
of Archbishop Arundel, to the Tuesday after Trinity
Sunday (Arundel's ' Register,' ii. lllb)." — Canon Scott
Robertson in Arcliceologia Gantiana, xiii.
EDWARD H, MARSHALL, M.A.
Hastings.
"HELL is PAVED WITH GOOD INTENTIONS" (8th
S. xi. 305). — PROF. ATTWELL asks if the Por-
tuguese proverb to this effect, which he gives, is
a literary quotation.
In Seward's 'Anecdotes/ fourth ed., vol. iii. p. 182,
there is this paragraph : " Antonio Guevara was
wont to say that heaven would be filled with those
that had done good works and hell with those that
had intended to do them." This Guevara, accord-
ing to Gorton's ' Biog. Diet./ was a Spanish bishop,
who died in 1548. It is there added tbat " many
of Guevara's remarks have been borrowed and given
in a different form, among which is the celebrated
saying that * Hell is paved with good intentions.' '
In 'N. & Q./ 1st S. vi. 520, the following Spanish
proverb is quoted, with its explanation, but the
author is not given: "El infierno es bleno [qy.
for lleno?] de buenas intenciones." The date of this
note is 1852, and the book containing the Spanish
proverb is said to have been published nearly two
hundred years previously. Perhaps this is what
Guevara wrote. I might quote from Boawell
(Griffin's edition, p. 250, year 1775) the application
of the proverb made by Dr. Johnson and Malone's
8" S. XI. MAT 29, W.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
437
note referring to Herbert's *Jacula Prudentum,'
but I find I have been anticipated by a contributor
to * N. & Q.,' 1st S. ii. 140. Another (4th S. ix.
260) quotes St. Francis de Sales as attributing
the proverb to St. Bernard. I may be allowed to
give the French, which does not there appear :
"Le proverbe tire de notre Saint Bernard, ' L'enfer
est plein de bonnes volonte"s ou de"sirs '" This ia
like Herbert's form of the adage (' Works/ p. 307,
Willmott'sed., 1862, Routledge).
The force of the proverb seems to lie in the
commonness of good intentions even with bad
men. They are so common that the final abode of
those who do not carry them out into action may
be said to be paved with them. So the pavement
of heaven is said to be ** trodden gold," denoting
its plentifulness there, in the figure. But it has
been suggested that the proper sense is that the
road to hell has been paved or made easy by these
good intentions. (See 'N. & Q.,' 1st S. ii. 86,
140). If the form in which the saying is generally
found admitted such an explanation we might
then compare Ecclus. xxi. 10 : " The way of sinners
is made plain with stones, but at the end thereof
is the pit of hell." According to Q. Q., 4th S. ix.
260, Coleridge assigned the proverb to Baxter.
C. LAWRENCE FORD, B.A.
Bath.
Lord Byron says : 'Tis pity " that such mean-
ings should pave hell " (' Don Juan,' canto viii.
stanza 25). In his note to this line he says that
the proverb " Hell is paved with good intentions"
is Portuguese. But there have been many re-
ferences to this proverb in ' N. & Q.' Perhaps
Lord Byron's line has been quoted before. I myself
have seen only the last note on the subject.
E. YARDLET.
I have always understood that it was " the road
to hell/' and not the terminus of such road, that
was thus paved. Is there authority for both forms ?
Q. V.
To the references given by PROF. ATTWELL may
be added 8th S. v. 8, 89, 212, 276, at the last of
.which I have adduced reasons for assigning a
German origin to the proverb. Let me observe
here that the Portuguese cheio means not paved,
but full. Me'rime'e's rendering betrays a trans-
fusion from English or German. F. ADAMS.
I remember to have been told by a late brother
officer, who was a well-read man, that this proverb
was of Portuguese origin, and that it ran : " Hell
is paved with good intentions and roofed with lost
opportunities." I regret now to be unable to give
my late friend's authority for the information.
CELER ET AUDAX.
HASELDEN (8th S. xi. 327).— E. J. H. will find
some particulars of the Haysilden or Haselden
family in the Ely Episcopal Records, 1375, 'Bishop
Arundell's Register ' : "Licence to Thos. de Haysil-
den to have divine offices celebrated in the oratories
or chapels of his mansions at Stepil Morden and
Gylden Morden"; and in MSS., British Museum,
15662, fo. 201, also 6693, p. 57. See also Lysons'a
1 Cambridgeshire' and Carter's. The latter men-
tions "Francis Hasilden, Esq., Steeple-Morden,
Cambridgeshire, as High Sheriff for the County
1 and 12 of H. VIII." I should think the Record
Office would have some P. M. inquisitions of this
family, judging from the contents of the MSS. in
the British Museum.
WM. GRAHAM F. PIGOTT.
Abington Pigotts.
There are particulars of the family of Thomas
Hasilden, Lord of the Manor of Little Chesterford,
Essex, 1409 (also of Cambridgeshire), in Wright's
* Essex,' where the arms are given Argent, a cross
fleury sable. B. FLORENCE SCARLETT.
EARLY LUCIFER MATCHES (8th S. x. 72, 141,
226 ; xi. 356). — It may perhaps interest MR.
WALFORD to know that flint and steel are still in
use in western Europe. A writer in one of the
Brighton papers of last summer speaks of having
seen tinder-box flints at Brandon, Suffolk, and of
having been told by the merchant that he had
recently had an order for 20,000 of them for Spain.
The inconveniences of flint and steel are graphically
portrayed at the close of chap. xx. of Douglas
Jerrold's 'The Story of a Feather,' pp. 119, 120.
The consternation excited in a simple-minded
Scotch innkeeper by the artful introduction of the
first lucifer is well told in Chambers's Edinburgh
Journal for 29 June, 1844, No. 26, N.S., vol. i.
pp. 401-403. THOMAS J. JEAKES.
There was in my father's house seventy years
ago, and probably much longer, a japanned candle-
stick, the lower part of which was a box, and in
the box some matches and a bottle containing some
chemical preparation. If one of these matches was
dipped in the bottle it immediately took fire. This
is older than that mentioned by MR. WALFORD.
E. LEATON-BLENKINSOPP.
"About 1830-1840" is very indefinite, and in-
cludes, I think, the whole change, from the tinder-
box, which was universal in 1830, till it was quite
superseded. In 1834 I first was astonished by a
"Euporion," brought from London. About 1837
the term " lucifer " came into use for matches, of
which fifty-two in a box, price 3s. 6cZ., were struck
between a sandpaper book. They had no phos-
phorus, and were composed of chlorate of potash
and sulphuret of antimony, nearly like the present
ones. In 1839 or 1840 they had bright phosphorus
added ; about 100 in a box cost 2d. • they could be
struck on anything hard and rough. About 1861,
when these could be had three or four boxes for a
penny, the discovery of dark phosphorus, used in
438
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[8» S. XI. MAY 29, '97.
the box-covering, was made, and the matches re-
turned to their present condition. The use of
bright phosphorus, and the consequent jaw disease,
continued full twenty-two years, from 1839 to
1861. E. L. GARBETT.
THE SUFFIX "WELL" IN PLACE NAMES
(8th S. ix. 345, 451 ; x. 17, 99, 220; xi. 217, 274).
— The suburb of Frankwell, in Shrewsbury, is
said by the local historians to have been the
" vill " or abode of the Francigenae or Franks, who
settled in that town at an early period. I do not
know on what historical foundations this statement
rests, but the locality was known as Frankevill
as late as 1609, as is evidenced by a petition of
that date which was printed in the " Notes and
Queries " column of the Shreivsbury Chronicle of
3 January, 1896. The correspondent who for-
warded the note asked if certain privileges, such
as exemption from tolls, which were claimed in
the petition, might not have given origin to the
name of the suburb Frankville ; but this point
remained unsettled. W. F. PRIDEAUX.
WOODEN PITCHERS (8th S. xi. 189, 292, 377).—
The vessels thus aptly named by MR. JEAKES are
quite common in farmhouses and cottages in what
we call "country places," that is, far from the
haunts of men, in the west of Somerset and North
Devon ; indeed, they are so useful and unbreakable
that I once bought one for use in my own house.
They may be bought in any country cooper's shop,
or might be ordered under their well-known name,
' bicker." We retain the M.E. form of " beaker."
There is a turnery and cooper's shop at both
Taunton and Barnstaple where the bicker may be
always seen on sale. Although a beaker in litera-
ture is taken to be a drinking vessel, the article
we are dealing with could not be so used comfort-
ably, but I have often seen a draught taken out of a
stable bucket, and in younger days have had many
a drink of new cider out of the "ladepail." Our
bicker differs only from the Scotch stoup by
having the iron handle at the side, like the old
cloamen (brown-ware) pitcher, to be seen in every
country market. Curiously, however, I have
noticed in the last year or two that, even in that
most conservative piece of old-world crockery, the
Scotch stoup handle across the mouth has in some
cases been adopted, even here in Somerset; and now,
among perhaps a lot of fifty for sale, two or three
have the Scotch handle. The general shape of the
pitcher, like that of the bicker, remains unaltered.
It would be interesting to know if it is certain that
the biker of M. E. was in all cases a drinking cup,
as assumed by Dr. Murray.
F. T. ELWORTHY.
Kibbles (kibbal is, I believe, the old Cornish
spelling) are made by Burrows, cooper, Lostwithiel,
Cornwall, or they may be obtained at almost any
cooper's in the county. They are made in two
shapes : straight at the top, with bucket-handle, or
slightly sloped at the top, with handle like that of
a jug. Height, about fifteen inches ; diameter,
six and a quarter inches at top, eight inches at
bottom, and nine and a quarter inches below the
centre. They are made of oak staves with four
iron bands. G. K. P.
" CRN " (8th S. xi. 407).— Either the querist has
copied this wrongly or it is incorrectly printed in
his edition of ' The Betrothed.' In mine (1850) it
appears as crw, which is the Welsh for " beer "
(pronounced as the English word crew), probably
etymologically connected with the classical cervisia.
It has nothing to do with hawking, except perhaps
indirectly, as being a natural concomitant of field
sports. JAS. PLATT, Jun.
This is a misprint — but not in Scott. What the
Welshman loved was crw, which is ale. See the
' Ingoldsby Legends ': —
Not that in Wales they talk of their Ales :
To pronounce the word they make use offmight trouble
you,
Being spelt with a C, two R's, and a'W.
0. F. S. WARREN, M.A.
Longford, Coventry.
BACON'S * PROMUS OF FORMULARIES AND ELE-
GANCIES ' (8th S. xi. 404). — MR. SPENCB is mis-
taken in supposing that this quasi-commonplace
book is " confined to manuscript." It was printed
and published in 1883, under the editorship of
Mrs. Pott, with a preface by Dr. Abbott, and is
"copiously illustrated by passages from Shakespeare,"
as the title-page states, and as I can avouch from
personal handling. According to my recollection,
Mrs. Pott has modernized Bacon's spelling ; and
about six years ago an exact reproduction was
begun, but was abandoned after eighty pages had
been put in type. F. ADAMS.
"The Promus of Formularies and Elegancies
(being private notes in MS., circa 1594, by Francis
Bacon, hitherto unpublished). Illustrated and
elucidated by passages from Shakespeare. By Mrs.
Henry Pott. With preface by E. A. Abbott, D.D.,
Head Master of the City of London School. With
facsimile page. 8vo., 16s., Longman, 1882." This
book is out of print, but can easily be procured
second-hand. A review of it appeared in * N. & Q.,'
8 May, 1883. WM. H. PEET. '
CAMOENS, LOPE DE VEGA, AND THE SIEGE OF
COLOMBO (8th S. xi. 349).— The words quoted by
Burton are to be found in Joze Maria de Souza's
life of Camoens, prefixed to his edition of the
' Lusiads/ published in Paris, 1817, 4to., and 1819,
8vo. Lope de Vega certainly was not the author
of the words apparently attributed to him by
Burton, who it seems to me fell into the error by
. XI. MAT 29, '97.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
439
misreading or misunderstanding Adamson's refer-
ence to the subject in his ' Memoirs of Camoens,'
vol. i. pp. 226-7. The date 1660 is evidently a
mistake. J. F. FRY.
Upton, Didcot. _
NOTES ON BOOKS, &0.
Examples from, Early Printed, Books in the British
Museum. (Printed by Order of the Trustees of the
British Museum.)
WE have here one of the most delectable works ever
brought within tbe reach of the student of typography and
the lover of books. With a view to diffusing a " know-
ledge and study of early typography by rendering
accessible examples whose originals are only to be found
in public libraries or in the choicest private collections "
thirty-two plates, comprising thirty - six facsimiles,
executed by Mr. W. Griggs, have been issued illus-
trating the progress of typographical art, from block-
books executed probably about 1450 to the edition of
Frezzi's ' Quatreregio ' printed in Florence in 1508. The
plates consist of selected pages from representative
specimens of the early printed books of Germany, Italy,
France, Holland, and England, exhibited in the King's
Library, the selection and description of the specimens
having been trusted to Mr. A. W. Pollard, of the Depart-
ment of Printed Books, a well-known bibliographer, and
the whole being issued under the direction of Dr. Gar-
nett, C.B., the eminent Keeper of Printed Books. These
facts, drawn from the title-page and Dr. Garnett's intro-
duction, are sufficient to indicate the nature and extent
of the boon that has been conferred. The only task that
remains, since criticism is out of place and question, is
to indicate the character of one or two of the principal
plates. Plate 1, from the first edition of the 'Are
Moriendi,' a reproduction from a block-book of about
1450 of the illustration " Bona inspiracio angeli de paci-
encia," shows the angel drawing the sick man's attention
to God the Father, Christ, and SS. Barbara, Lawrence,
Catharine, and Stephen, while the discomfited demons
are scuttling away into outer darkness. Next comes a
page, of even ruder execution, from the Biblia Pauperum,
with many compartments, showing, among other things,
Sampson and Jonah as types of Christ. Letters of
Indulgence, printed at Mentz in 1455, and a page in red
and black from the forty-two-line Bible, printed at the
same place before August, 1456, illustrate the very
beginning of printing. This lovely page is from what is
known as the Mazarine Bible, a copy of which sold in
1884 for 3.900J., the second highest price ever paM at
auction for a printed book. A Mentz Psalter of 1457,
with splendid bold type, follows. A similar Psalter, dated
1459, of Fust and Schoeffer, brought 4,950^., the largest
sum ever paid at auction. A page from ' Die Geschicht
von dem Seyliger Kind Symon,' Augsburg, 1475, has a
curious illustration of the murder of tbe innocent child
by Jews, of which very numerous versions are known.
Quite impossible is it to notice all the attractive features,
so we pass to plate 10, which furnishes a superb picture
of a fight by "the adventurous hero" Tewrdannck.
Plate 13, the first page of Cepio's ' Gesta Petri Mocenici,'
printed at Venice 1477, is curious as one of the earliest
instances of the fine borders first used by Ratdolt. Follow-
ing this comes a page with a woodcut from the famous
' Hypnerotomachia Poliphili,' 1499. The first English
book shows the beginning of Caxton's epilogue to tlie
' Dictes or Sayengis of the Philosophres,' 1477. We have
not given a taste even of the precious things the work
contains. Very far from easy is, indeed, the mere task
of going through the plates one by one, and comparing
them with Mr. Pollard's brief and admirable descrip-
tion. The work constitutes in itself an illustrated
history of the origin and growth of printing, and is so
full of suggestion that one dares not venture down lanes
in which it would be difficult to stop. All that is pic-
torially and historically most interesting in connexion with
printing is here brought together, and can be consulted
at more advantage and with more convenience than else-
where. We accept the gift with thankfulness, and com-
mend it not only to the scholar, to whom it is invaluable,
but to those who seek a reason for the faith that is in
the bibliophile.
Prehistoric Problems. By Robert Munro, M.A. (Black-
wood & Sons.)
AFTER a pleasant excursion in company with Dr.
Munro to the mountains and cities of Bosnia, Herzego-
vina, Hnd Dalmatia, we are at home with him once more
among the Troglodytes. Of the various papers included
in the present volume most are known to anthropologists,
having been delivered before various learned societies,
while some, like 'Prehistoric Trepanning and Cranial
Amulets,' which appeared in the Fortnightly Review,
have reached a more general public. The most import-
ant paper of all, apparently, in the estimation of the
writer, is that 'On the Relation between the Erect
Posture and the Physical and Intellectual Development
of Man,' which formed the presidential address in the
Anthropological Section of the British Association in
1893. Not altogether new are the views expounded in
this remarkable paper, the leading idea in which seems
to be that the evolution of man's large brain results
from the gradual conversion of his upper limbs into true
hands. From the mon ent that man realized the advant-
age of using a club, stone, or other weapon or missile
for purposes of attack or defence, the "direct incentives
to a higher brain-development came into existence."
Dr. Munro's defence of this view must be read in hia
book. His paper created at the time some stir, and
brought the author into communication with Huxley,
who throws an interesting light on the subject. At the
point mentioned Dr. Munro has got to the weapons —
flint or other — of primitive man, a subject he has long
followed. A chapter immediately following this deals
with "Fossil Man," in which he dismisses as spurious,
or for other reasons, what is known as the Smeermaas
mdchoire, the Canstadt skull, and the tf famous jaw of
Moulin-Quignon," but draws very interesting conclusions
from the fragment of a lower human jaw found in the
Trou de la Naulette by M. Dupont, some of whose designs
he reproduces. Into the discussion concerning another
fragment of a skull found in the cave of Schipka he
declines to enter. The Neanderthal skull, the most brutal
of all known human skulls, is depicted, as are the skulls
of " Les Hommes de Spy " and " tbe Old Man of Cro-
magnon." Very valuable and interesting reproductions
are prehistoric saws and sickles. Most readers will
turn to the chapter on " Otter and Beaver Traps," much
new information concerning which has been derived
since 1891. It is impossible to indicate the extent of
the ground covered by Dr. Munro's book, and criticism
of it is out of place. A recognized authority among
evolutionists, Dr. Munro commands the respect of scien-
upon
tific men, and those who seek full information
the advance of anthropology, and upon the primitive
weapons which since Sir John Evans followed out the
discoveries of M. Boucher de Perthep, have ranked
among the most interesting of prehistoric documents,
will not need to be commended to this new volume,
which, like its predecessors, reflects credit on Scottish
archaeology,
440
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Modern English Biography. By Frederic Boase. Vol.11.
(Truro, Netherton & Worth.)
THE appearance of the second volume of Mr. Boase's
monumental work, four years after the first, leaves it
doubtful whether the entire work will be completed
within the century the latter half of which it seeks to
illustrate. This volume extends from I to Q, showing
that, aa we naturally anticipated— see 8th S. i. 345— three
volumes will serve for the alphabet. There is no special
cause, beyond the delight of the mind in a thing well
rounded, why a year of the next century should not
be accorded Mr. Boase, in case he wants it. It is a
heavy service he has undertaken — too heavy, almost,
for a single pair of hands. It could never have been
accomplished except by one of supremely orderly in-
stincts, who has from the outset kept abundant note-
books, and grouped and indexed information. As we
have before said, the aim of Mr. Boase is to supplement
biographical dictionaries, and give us the lives of those men
who have died within the last half century, after attain-
ing such amount of eminence as justifies their inclusion
in the volume. It is the biographies of the less cele-
brated people that give the work its great value. Except
for facility of reference, one would not turn to the pre-
sent volume for full particulars concerning Macaulay,
Macready, the Marstons (Westland and Philip Bourke),
Sir Robert Peel, or even Coventry Patmore, whose death
is too recent to allow of his name appearing in the
volume. Of the less-known Peels, Patmores, and Mac-
readys, however, particulars not easy to be elsewhere
obtained are supplied. The work is thus indispensable
to all occupied on genealogical pursuits, and is specially
useful for all engaged in editorial labours. We have
already said — and we now repeat — that Mr. Boase is
doing for all England what the compiler of a local his-
tory does for a county, a town, or even a parish. Among
tbe authorities Mr. Boase advances he might with pro-
priety include the ' Dictionary of National Biography,'
which naturally «ives in many places particulars more
exact and extensive than he himself supplies.
The Church and other Bells of Kincardineshire. By
F. C. Eeles. (Aberdeen, Jolly & Song; London,
Stock.)
WE welcome this handsome book with great pleasure,
and trust that it may be the forerunner of other volumes
of a like character which may in a reasonable time
embrace the whole of Scotland. The bell-lore of the
northern kingdom is still an almost unworked mine. Few
persons took any intelligent interest in English bells ex-
cept as sound-producers until a recent period. Ecclesio-
logy had long been a favourite study, and brass-rubbing
almost a profession, before it seems to have occurred
to any one except writers in the Ecclesiologist that
bells, too, had a story to tell which was worth attention.
Of late years we have made up in large measure for our
past shortcomings. Somewhere about half the counties
of England have had their church -bell inscriptions
recorded, and we believe that several of the shires of
whose bells as yet there is no account are at the present
moment in competent hands.
Scottish bells have a different interest from those of
England ; it would be flattery to say that it is as great.
We have still many mediaeval bells left in this country;
they are painfully few in Scotland. The Reformation in
the sixteenth century was of a far more revolutionary
character there than here. Though we do not seem to
have such full accounts of tbe destruction of bells which
took place in Scotland aa our national records furnish
regarding the south of the Tweed, it must have been
very great. Three hundred years of change have no
doubt swept away many which the Lords of the Con-
gregation and their followers spared. Mr. Eeles at
present only knows of the existence of six medijeval
bells in Scotland ; of these he gives a list, but modestly
adds that '' his information is very defective." We trust
that future explorers may be able to add to the number.
So far as we can call to mind, bells cast in Holland are
almost unknown in England ; they seem to be fairly
common in Scotland. The volume before us contains an
account of several interesting examples of these. Informer
days, when railways were unknown and roads almost
impassable for heavy traffic, it was no doubt more con-
venient for those who wanted a heavy bell to get it from
over-sea than from a foundry in London or the Mid-
lands. We have a notion, moreover, that the Dutch
were cheaper and better craftsmen than their English
contemporaries.
The author gives several instances of church bells
being suspended in trees. The bell of St. Mary's,
Strachan, was hung in a large beech tree, and not
removed until 1895. It ia now preserved in the sessions
house. We cannot but regret that it has been taken
away from the old place. Such a survival of an old
custom is not without interest. Bells hung in trees
were always uncommon in this country, but we have
heard of a few examples. At Flixborough, in Lincoln-
shire, in the last century the church bell was suspended
from the branch of a large ash. In illuminated service-
books executed in the Low Countries, and in engravings
which preserve somewhat of the spirit of the Middle
Ages, it is not uncommon to see a hermit at his devo-
tions, his chapel in the background, with its bell hang-
ing in a tree overhead.
ME. JAMES DALLAS, of the Exeter Museum, has
transcribed from the MS. 'The Note- Book of Tristram
Risdon ' (1608-1628), which has long been preserved in
the Library of Exeter Cathedral. This is about to be
published by Mr. Elliot Stock. Two hundred and fifty
copies only will be printed for subscribers. It is a com-
panion to the well-known 'Chorograpbical Description
or Survey of the County of Devon,' published in 1714,
and contains much information which concerns Devon-
shire genealogists.
THE sale, at Newcastle, Staffordshire, of Mr. Simms's
Staffordshire books will take place on Wednesday,
Thursday, and Friday next.
We must call special attention to the following notices:
ON all communications must be written the name and
address of the sender, not necessarily for publication, but
as a guarantee of good faith.
WE cannot undertake to answer queries privately.
To secure insertion of communications correspondents
must observe the following rule. Let each note, query,
or reply be written on a separate slip of paper, with the
signature of the writer and such address as he wishes to
appear. Correspondents who repeat queries are requested
to head the second communication "Duplicate."
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Editor of ' Notes and (Queries ' " — Advertisements and
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We beg leave to state that we decline to return com*
munications which, for any reason, we do not print; and
to this rule we can make no exception.
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
441
LONDON, SATURDAY, JUKE 6, 189T.
CONTENTS.— N° 284.
NOTES :— Arms of United States, 441— Church Registers,
442— Bannockburn — Epilogue by C. Lamb, 443— "Wains-
cot " — Official Records — The Vyne — Queer Plurals —
" Tindering Time," 444— May Day Custom — Type- writing
Machines— John Hunter's House, 445.
QUERIES :— Henry Hayter, 445 — John Smith, LL.B. —
" Caitiff "—Armour— Hattock — Gabriel Grub— Amphillis,
446 — Military Banners — King Lear — "Hand-shoe" — Line
in Goldsmith — Convicts in England — Sir Ede Baynham —
Proprietary Chapels — School at Parson's Green — Crest —
Felling Bridge — W. Crawford — Henry Cornish — The
Derby, 447— John Roberts— Offa's Grave—' The Tourist in
Wales' — "A sole is the bread," &c. — W. Hewes — Yeomen
of the Guard— CrSsus, 448.
REPLIES :— Children of Sir Henry Percy, 448— St. Dunstan
— Gillman, 449 — Cunobelinus— Daniel Sedgwick — Darvel
Gadarn — Songs on Sport, 450 — Title and Author of Book —
C. Packe— "Ave, Csesar," &c.— " Alphabet-man "—Seal of
Sligo Corporation — Chapel - Snake — " Barley - men " —
Church Tower Buttresses, 451 — Culloden— Baxter's ' Eng-
lish Hexapla' — " Not worth a tinker's curse" — Ben Jonson
—"A cat may look at a king," 452— French Prisoners of
War— Cherry Blossom Festival — ' Dictionary of National
Biography': M.P.s, 453— Beckford's Speech to George III.
— Plantation of James I.— Labels on Books— Wesleyan
Monuments— Wilkes— London Topography — " Not worth
a rap "—Hatchments in Churches, 454— Gaule's ' Mag-astro-
maucer' — Kernel— Dialect — Flower of the Well— G. Lips-
comb, 455— Caen Wood — " Clavus griophili"— " Dadle,"
456 — Dedications to St. Roque — "Grass-widow" — The
Champion of England— De Brus — " Master William Ben-
nett," 457— Stained Glass— Bishops Consecrated in 1660 —
Henri Waddington— Easter Riding in Tyrol— Lord Bowen
-Tom Taylor— Hand of Glory, 458— Authors Wanted, 459.
NOTES ON BOOKS :— Florio's 'Essays of Montaigne'—
Carpenter's ' English Lyric Poetry '—Swift's 'Prose Works,'
Vol. I.— Leigh Hunt's 'The Months' — Gasquet's 'Old
English Bible '—Cole's ' History of Doddington.'
ARMS OP UNITED STATES.
(See 8*b S. xi< 347.)
In the year 1892 the Department of State
(Foreign Affairs) of the United States of America,
desiring to make an official historical record of
the correct seal and arms, issued a book entitled
* The Seal of the United States, how it was
Developed and Adopted,' an edition limited to
one thousand copies and numbered, of which I
have No. 1. It contains a sketch in proper
heraldic colours of the arms which have always
existed, and shows from authentic and official
sources the development of the seal of the United
States and the national arms.
The first movement towards a design for the
arms was made on 4 July, 1776, after the De-
claration of Independence had been read in the
Continental Congress, when it was " Kesolved,
that Dr. Franklin, Mr. J. Adams, and Mr. Thomas
Jefferson be a committee, to prepare a device for a
seal of the United States of North America"
(' Journals of Congress,' vol. i. p. 397). The
report of that committee was not adopted. Other
committees made reports from time to time, with
various designs, all of which are set forth in the
book above mentioned. On 20 June, 1782, the seal
ind armorial achievement were finally decided upon.
On report of the secretary (' Journals of Con-
gress/ vol. iv. p. 39) to whom were referred the
several reports on the device for a great seal, to
take order : —
" The device for an armorial achievement and reverse
of the great seal for the United States in Congress
assembled, is as follows : Arms, Paleways of thirteen
pieces, argent and gules ; a chief, azure ; the escutcheon
on the breast of the American eagle displayed proper,
holding in his dexter talon an olive branch, und in
his sinister a bundle of thirteen arrows, all proper,
and in his beak a scroll, inscribed with this motto
' E pluribus unum.' For the crest, Over the head of the
eagle, which appears above the escutcheon, a glory, or,
breaking through a cloud, proper, and surrounding
thirteen stars, forming a constellation, argent, on an
azure field. Reverse, A pyramid unfinished. In the
zenith, an eye in a triangle, surrounded with a glory
proper. Over the eye these words, 'Annuit cceptis.'
On the base of the pyramid the numerican letters
MDCCLXXVI. And underneath the following motto,
' Novus Ordo Seclorum.' '
Accompanying the report, and adopted by Con-
gress, was the following : —
" Remarks and Explanation. — The escutcheon ia com-
posed of the chief and pale, the two most honourable
ordinaries. The pieces, paly, representing the several
States all joined in one solid compact entire, supporting
a chief, which unites the whole and represents Congress.
The motto alludes to this union. The pales in the arms
are kept closely united by the chief, and the chief
depends on that union and the strength resulting from
it for its support, to denote the confederacy of the United
States of America and the preservation of their union
through Congress. The colours of the pales are those
used in the flag of the United States of America : white
signifies purity and innocence; red, hardiness and
valour ; the colour of the chief signifies vigilance, per-
severance, and justice. The olive branch and arrows
denote the power of peace and war which is exclusively
vested in Congress. The constellation denotes a new
State taking its place and rank among other sovereign
powers. The escutcheon is borne on the breast of an
American eagle without any other supporters, to denote
that the United States ought to rely on their own virtue.
Reverse, The pyramid signifies strength and duration.
The eye over it and the motto allude to the many signal
interpositions of Providence in favour of the American
cause. The date underneath is that of the Declaration
of Independence and the words under it signify the
beginning of the new American era, which commences
from that date. Passed June 20, 1782."
When the Federal Government of the United
States was formed under the constitution, Con-
gress passed a law on 15 Sept., 1789, creating the
Department of State (Foreign Affairs). Section 3
of the Act reads (1 Statutes, 68) : —
"Section 3 That the seal heretofore used by the
United States in Congress assembled shall, and hereby
is declared to, be the seal of the United States."
This seal and these arms have continued in use to
the present day.
Departures from the correct legal heraldic design
of the arms of the United States of America have
been common for a long period. Artists un-
familiar with the laws of heraldry and the Act of
Congress have varied the design of the arms
442
NOTES AND QUERIES.
8. XI. JUNE 5, '97.
according to their fancy. It is common to-day to
place on the chief across the breast of the eagle
thirteen stars or mullets, and to place in the
sinister talon a bundle of five or six arrows instead
of thirteen, the legal number. The thirteen stars
have been always a part of the crest, as described
above, between the motto and the wings of the
eagle, but above the head. The chief on the shield
was always azure without stars. The sinister talon
never clutched a thunderbolt, but always thirteen
arrows, representing the thirteen original States.
As to the motto on the table napkin, tl We offer
Peace, Ready for War." It was suggested pro-
bably by the person who prepared the design for
the napkin. The official history of the arms of the
United States makes no mention of any such motto.
As the serviette appears to have been manu-
factured long before 1809, it was not made in the
United States, for linen with woven designs had
not been an article of manufacture at that early
period. It was made in England undoubtedly.
As to the question, "Where shall I find an
account of the earlier forma, if there were any, of
the American heraldic eagle when it was mewing
its mighty youth ? " I answer that there has been
but one heraldic design of the arms from the
foundation of the Government to the present time.
Various designs were submitted for consideration
by Congress between 4 July, 1776, and 20 June,
1782, when the present seal and arms were adopted,
all of which are set forth, with a full account thereof,
in the book issued by the Department of State above
mentioned. SMITH E. LANE.
New York.
CHURCH EEGISTERS.
(See 6th S. viii. 395, 504; 8th S. v. 243 ; vi. 421 ; vii. 16,
382 ; viii. 13, 56, 492 ; ix. 337.)
To the lists of printed parish registers given at
the above references, the following, which have
been printed and issued either for sale, by sub-
scription, or privately, may be added : —
England.
Bedfordshire.— Ampthill, registers 1701, 1712 (Bed-
fordshire Notes and Queries, vol. ii.). Arlesey, baptisms
1538-1675, marriages 1559-1641, burials 1559-1667
(vol. in.)- Aspley-Guise, baptisms 1598-1694, marriages
1603-83, burials 1634-97 (vol. iii.). Barton-le-Clay,
burials 1558-1739 (vol. i.). Battlesden, registers 1717-91
(vol. ii.). Bedford, St. John's registers 1669-1717 (vol. iii.).
Bedford, St. Paul's registers 1565-1808 (vol. i.). Bed-
ford St. Peter Martin registers 1701-1742 (vol. ii.).
Biggleswade, baptisms 1765-83, burials 1765-88 (vol. ii.).
Campton, registers 1701-1812 (vol. i.). Cardington,
registers 1575-1644, burials 1679-1725 (vol. ii.). Chal-
grave, registers 1724-91 (vol. ii.). Claphill, registers
1567-1699 (vol. iii.). Gople, registers 1705-15 (vol. ii.).
Dean, baptisms 1567-1699, marriages 1568-1752, burials
1566-1698 (vol. iii.). Dunstable, registers 1599-1700
(vol. iii.). Eaton-Bray, registers 1701-4 (vol. ii.). Elstow,
registers 1701-53 (vol. ii.). Eversholt, baptisms 1642-76,
Leyland,
registers
registers
marriages
(vol. ii.). Flitwick, registers 1701-10 (vol. ii.). Goldington,
registers 1702-66 (vol. ii.). Great Barford, registers 1563-
1749 (vol. i.). Harlington, registers 1702-3 (vol. ii.). Haynes,
registers 1596-1812. Hockliffe, registers 1707-1809
(vol.ii.). Holwell, registers 1626-1733 (vol. ii.). Houghton
Conquest, registers 1704-71 (vol.ii.). Houghton Regie,
registers 1704-1805 (vol. ii.). Kempston, registers 1701-61
(vol. i.). Luton, registers 1703-17 (vol. ii.). Maulden,
registers, 1701-56 (vol. ii.). Mitton Bryant, registers
1703-11 (vol. ii.). Northill, registers 1705-37 (vol. ii.).
Oakley, burials 1712-13 (vol. ii.). Pertenhall, registers
1586-1710 (vol. Hi.). Pulloxhill, baptisms 1564-1715,
marriages 1582-1714, burials 1576-1728 (vol. iii.). Ren-
hold, registers 1701-98 (vol. ii.). Ridgmont, registers
1540-1750 (vol. i.). Roxton, registers 1689-1742 (vol. iii.).
Salford. baptisms 1559-1692, marriages 1587-1671, burials
1564-1696 (vol. iii.). Streatley, registers, 1691-1811
(vol. i.). Sundon, registers 1595-1793 (vol. i.). Tils-
worth, registers 1653-1782 (vol. i.). Warden, burials
1704-27 (vol. ii.). Willington, registers 1702-1810 (vol. iii.).
Wilshampstead, registers, 1708-62 (vol. ii.). Wymington,
registers 1701-45 (vol. ii.).
Berkshire.— Ufton Court (Roman Catholic), registers
1741-1828. Welford, baptisms 1562, marriages 1603,
burials 1559-1812. Reading, St. Giles, 1518-1546.
Cambridgeshire. — Abington Pigotts, registers 1658-
1812. Thorney (French Church), 1654-1727. Wisbech
(Baptist Church).
Cheshire.— Eastham, registers 1598-1700.
registers 1622-41, 1653-1710. Macclesfield,
1512-1620 (Parish Magazine). Prestbury,
15bO-1636. Bidstone, 1581-1700.
Cornwall. — Madron, baptisms 1592-1726,
1577-1678, burials 1577-1681. St. Columb Major, registers
15b9-1780.
Cumberland.— Dalston, 1570-1812. Penrith, 1556-1601.
Denbighshire. — Kegidog, alias St. George, registers
1694-1749.
Derbyshire. — Croxall, registers 1586-1812. West
Hallam (Derbyshire Archaeological Society).
Dorset. — Ashmore, registers 1651-1820. Beer Hachett.
1549-1745.
Durham. — Denton, registers 1586-1662. Durham, Sfc,
Oswald, registers 1538-1751. Durham Cathedral. 1609-
1896.
Essex.— Colchester, St. Leonards, registers 1670-71.
Greensted, registers 1558-1812. Moreton, registers
1558-1759. South Weald, registers 1539-73. Stapleford
Tawnev, registers 1558-1752. Theydon Mount, registers
1564-1815.
Gloucester.— Buckland, baptisms 1539-1804, marriages
1539-1746, burials 1551-1804 (Gloucestershire Notes and
Queries, vol. iv.). Childs Wickham, baptisms 1600-73,'!
burials 1551-1804 (vol. iv.). Coaley, registers 1581-180*
(vol. v.). Forthampton, marriages 1678-1812 (vol. vii.)
Frocester, marriages 1559-1800 (vol. v.). Hampnett
marriages 1737-54 (vol. ii.). King's Stanley, marriage*
1573-1812 (vol. vi.). Maisemore, baptisms 1600-63
marriages 1557-90, burials 1538-99 (vol. iv.). Owlpen
marriages 1687-1895 (vol. vi.). Pebworth, marriage
1595-1700 (vol. i.). Pitchcombe, marriages 1709-41
(vol. iii.). Quedgeley, marriages 1559-1836 (vol. vi.)
Kendcombe. marriages 1566-1812 (vol. vi.). Saintbury
baptisms 1710, marriages 1603-1717, burials 1617-170:
(vol. iv.). Swindon, marriages 1638-1837 (vol. vii.). Uley
registers 1668-1798 (vol. v.). Weston-sub-Edge. baptism
1654-1709, burials 1651-1709 (vol. iv.). Whaddon
registers 1674-1711. Nimpsfield, marriages 1679-181$
Slimbridge, marriages 1535-1812.
Hants.— Colmer, registers 1563-1812, Prior's Dear
registers 1538-1812.
marriages 1630-84, burials 1634-70 (vol. iii.). Flitton,
baptisms 1581-1686, marriages 603-85, burials 1600-84 Herefordshire.— Upton Bishop, marriages 1571-1883
8«» s. XI. JUNE 6, '97.1
NOTES AND QUERIES.
443
Herts.— St. Albans Abbey, parish registers, 1558-1689.
Kent.— Canterbury, St, George registers 1538-1800.
Canterbury, marriage licences 1661-76. Chislet, registers
1538-1751. Elmstone, registers 1552-1812. Lewisham,
registers 1558-1750. Maidstone, marriages 1542-1620.
Lancashire. — Bolton, registers 1573-1712 (Bolton
Weekly Journal). Preston, registers 1611-21. Leigh,
registers, 1558-1625 (Parish Magazine). Saddlewortb,
registers 1613-1751. Ulverston, registers 1545 • 1812
(Palatine Note-Book, vol. i.)-
Leicestershire.— Newton Linford, registers 1677-9.
Sbackerston, registers 1558-1630. Somerby, registers
1601-1715.
Lincolnshire.— Great Grimsby, registers 1538-1812.
Horncastle, registers 1559-1639 (Parish Magazine).
Irby-upon-Humber, registers 1558-1785.
London. — French Church, Threadneedle Street, re-
gisters 1600-1639. Gray's Inn Chapel, marriages ,
marriage licences 1521-1869. St. John Baptist, Wai-
brook, baptisms 1682-1754, burials 1686-1754. St. Mary-
le-Strand, marriages 1605-25 (Genealogist). Holy Trinity,
Minories, baptisms 1563-1813, marriages 1579-1664,
burials 1566-1813. Charter House Chapel, baptisms
1696-1836, marriages 1671-1754, and 1837-1896, burials
1695-1854.
Montgomeryshire. — Tref Eglwys, registers 1695-6.
Norfolk.— Burgh, registers 1563-1810 (Norfolk Archaeo-
logical Society). Bixley, baptisms 1575-1809, marriages
1563-1706, burials 1593-1796 (East Anglian, vol. i.).
Notts.— Carltpn in Lindrick, registers from 1539
(Parish Magazine).
Northamptonshire. — Maidwell, registers 1570-1638,
1648-1696 (Northamptonshire Notes and Queries). Moul-
ton, St. Peter and St. Paul, registers 1565-1895 (Gloucester-
shire Notes and Queries, vol. vi.). Warkton, baptisms
1591-1786, marriages 1567-1612, burials 1607-1844.
\Veekley, baptisms 1574-1696, marriages 1550-1661,
burials 1553-1720 (Northamptonshire Notes and Queries').
Oxfordshire. — Ducklington, baptisms 1550, marriages
1581, burials 1580-1880 (Oxfordshire Archaeological
Society). Oxford, Christchurch, registers 1633-1884.
Kutland.— North Luffenham, 1572-1812.
Salop,— Broseley, registers 1570-1750.
Somersetshire.— Wellow, registers 1570-1887. Wilton,
registers 1558-1837. Bath Abbey Church, baptisms and
marriages 1569-1754, burials 1800.
Staffordshire. — Keele, baptisms 1541-1639, marriages
1557-1684, burials 1544-1623. West Bromwich, baptisms
and burials 1608-16 (Parish Magazine). Wolverhamp-
ton, Collegiate Church, registers 1603-60.
Suffolk.— Drinkstone, registers 1579-99 (East Anglian,
vol. v.). Hepworth, registers 1561-1684 (East A nglian,
vol. v.). Willingham, alias Ellough, All Saints, .
Surrey. — Bermondsey, 1609-1643 (Genealogist). Wands-
worth, registers 1603-1787 Windlesham, registers 1677-
1783. Banstead, 1547-1789.
Warwickshire. — Birmingham, St. Martin, registers
1554-1653 (Midland Antiquary, vol. iii.).
Westmoreland.— Aeby, baptisms 1657-1798, marriages
1657-1776, burials 1657-1798.
Worcester (co.). — Bretforton/ marriages 1538-1752
(previously given under Gloucestershire). Knightwick
and Doddenham, registers 1538-1812 (edited by the Eev.
J. B. Wilson, M.A., rector of Knightwick and Dodden-
ham, and not by the Worcester Historical Society). St.
Albans, 1630-1812.
Yorkshire.— Ackworth, registers 1558-99 (Yorkshire
Notes and Queries, vol. i.). Burnsall, registers 1558-
1740 (Parish, Magazine). Coley, registers 1644-1752.
Dewsbury, registers 1538-99 (Parish Magazine). Don-
caster, Friends, marriages 1794 • 1865. Ebberston
and Alleraton (Parish Magazine). Hawnby, registers
1653-1722. Hull, God's Hospital Chapel, registers
1695 -. Keighley, Friends, (Yorkshire Notes
and Queries). Monk Fryston, 1538-1678. Northowram,
registers 1644-1752. Rotherham, registers 1542-63. Sand-
toft, French Church, registers 1642-85 (Yorkshire Archaeo-
logical Journal). Staveley, baptisms 1582-1653, marriages
1584-1652, burials 1582-1638 (Parish Magazine"). York
Minster, baptisms 168S-1804, marriages 1681-1762,
burials 1634-1836 (Yorkshire Archaeological Journal),
Scotland.
Crail, registers .
Leith.— St. James, marriages 1736-44, baptisms 1734-45.
Marriages recorded in 'Acta Dom. Cone.' and 'Acta
Dom. Aud.,' 1466-95.
Ireland.
Cork (co.).— Cork, Christ Church, registers 1643-68.
EVBRARD HOME COLEMAN.
71, Brecknock Road.
BANNOCKBURN AND SIR HENRY DE BOHUN. —
Sir Herbert Maxwell, in his interesting ' Life of
Robert the Bruce/ has corrected many points in
the king's career, some from the invaluable ' Scala
Cronica' of Sir Thomas Gray. One remarkable
deed, for which, I think, Barbour is the sole
authority — the death of Bohun — is not mentioned
by Gray. He appears in the general list of the
slain (Trivet's ' Annals '), but that is all.
Yet in 'Scala Cronica' Gray says that Pieres
de Montfort was slain by Bruce in the woods near
Stirling on 23 June (the eve of the battle). In
the 'Black Book of Exchequer,' an old record
which the late Mr. J. J. Bond considered to be of
coeval date with the events chronicled and printed
(partly) in his ' Handy Book of Dates,' it is said,
under 23 June, that Sir John de Montfort died at
Stirling. His name is also in Trivet's roll. Two
such single combats are unlikely to have come off
on one day. Barbour makes mistakes in names,
e. g., Sir Alan Cathcart for Sir William Cathcart ;
and a more curious one, of a Sir Ingram Bell as an
English official in Ayrshire, who is unknown to
history, the real man being doubtless Sir Ingram
Umfraville, a well-known personage, constantly
appearing in the records of the time, and an Ayr-
shire landowner besides. JOSEPH BAIN.
AN EPILOGUE BY CHARLES LAMB. (See 7th S.
iv. 226.) — About ten years ago I sent from Cal-
cutta a short note upon an apparently forgotten
epilogue which Lamb wrote for Henry Siddons's
comedy of ' Time's-a-Tell-Tale,' and which was
noticed unfavourably in the Satirist; or, Monthly
Meteor, i. 325. On recently looking over some
old volumes of Book-Lore, I found that, by a curious
coincidence, Miss Jennett Humphreys about the
same time contributed to that magazine an article
on this identical epilogue, under the title of ' An
Unrecorded Epilogue by Lamb.' This article ap-
peared in the number for May, 1887, which was,
as nearly as possible, the date on which I forwarded
my note to ' N. & Q.' Miss Humphreys found
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the epilogue in a little volume in the British
Museum called * The Apollo,' 1808, and she says
it is also given in the contemporary issue of the
play.* She was under the impression that, in
accordance with the "evil destiny hanging over
Elia and his personal connexion with the boards,"
the epilogue was never spoken on the stage, or, as
she expresses it, " never broke into real life." But
it is clear from the passage that I quoted from the
Satirist that the epilogue was spoken once, and
once only. On the second night a second epilogue
appeared, which also gained, though in less measure,
the condemnation of the critic. This second
attempt was probably nob the production of Lamb,
and which of the two was prefixed to the printed
version of the play is an interesting question. As
Miss Humphreys quotes in her paper the greater
part of Lamb's jeu d'esprit, any possessor of the
printed play would be in a position to set this
doubt at rest. W. F. PRIDE AUX.
Kingsland, Shrewsbury.
"WAINSCOT." — I observe that, in a note on
* Chare-roof ' in « N. & Q.,' 8tb S. xi. 396, there is
a reference to my derivation of wainscot (Du.
wagenschot) from Du. wagen, a wain or waggon ;
as given in the first edition of my larger ( Etymo-
logical Dictionary/ No doubt such was once the
" popular" etymology ; but there is evidence that
it cannot be right. A much more probable de-
rivation is that from Mid. Du. waeg (Du. weeg,
A.-S. wall), a wall ; and this is adopted in my
second edition. Even now there seems to be some
doubt about it, as Franck declares it to be not
wholly satisfactory. It is clear that in this, as in
many other difficult cases, we shall have to hasten
slowly if we mean to arrive at the true result.
WALTER W. SKEAT.
UNCERTAINTY OF OFFICIAL RECORDS. — On
29 April last I was the minister who performed
the ceremony at the burial of an old agricultural
labourer. In the registrar's certificate he was
called George Emms, aged seventy-seven ; on his
coffin was painted " George Emmes, aged seventy-
eight "; his true age was seventy-six, and he was
baptized on 6 March, 1821, as George Hemms.
The surname of another family in the same parish
appears in the register variously as Ewans, Ewens,
Ewins, Hewens, Hewins, Hums, Uwins, all in
this century. W. 0. B.
THE VYNE IN HAMPSHIRE. (See 8th S. xi. 392.)
—Under the heading of ' Mrs. Penobscot,' MASCO-
NOMO-PASSACONAWAT refers to Mr. Chute's * His-
tory of the Vyne [Family] in Hampshire.' The
* This statement was confirmed by the late MR. J.
DYKES CAMPBELL, who wrote (7th S. iv. 254) that he had
lately seen in a bookseller's shop a copy of the play,
which had stitched on to it a leaf of inferior paper with
Lamb's epilogue.
addition of the word " Family " in brackets will
irritate every one who is acquainted with Mr.
Chute's delightful book. That *' the Vyne " is not
a family, but a place name, is apparent from Mr.
Chute's first paragraph : —
"The Vyne is situated three miles north of Basing-
stoke It probably occupies the site of the ancient
Roman Vindomis, from which its name may be derived,
a name which, having been first contracted into ' Vynnes,'
acquired its present form of ' Vyne ' or ' Vine ' at least
as early as the fourteenth century."
0. E. D.
QUEER PLURALS. — As examples of these we
have all seen ignorami, vade meca, and so forth ;
but these exploits have generally been achieved by
persons with no just pretension to the literary
character.
The latest queer plural, however, which I have
observed occurs in a book of very considerable
literary pretension, composed, too, by a very
practised writer. For the present I desire to keep
this gentleman, like Manzoni's Innominato, un-
named, but I desire to say that he always makes
the plural of mausoleum, mausolea ; as to which
I would observe that one might just as well make
the plural of museum, musea, or of asylum, asyla.
I take it that when a word becomes naturalized in
our language it must conform to the laws of that
language.
While on the subject of plurals, Heaven forefend
that with rash hand I should rip open the chronic
controversy as to the proper plural of spoonful, et
hoc genus omne. At present, and for the present,
that controversy is happily slumbering ; and I
would say, non molestar il can die dorme. It is
very sure to wake up ere long and vex us. Yet
I cannot refrain from citing one word of that class
which, strange to say, has hitherto been overlooked
in the controversy, and which yet ought to be
decisive of it. That word is mouthful. Now if
the advocates of spoonsful, &c.. have any preten-
sions to consistency, they must doubtless maintain
that the proper plural of this word is mouthsful.
Well, if so, I would only submit that if any person
should be directed to take a few mouthsful of milk
or tea, he would be tempted to ask — like Sydney
Smith when enjoined by his doctor to take an
occasional walk on an empty stomach— whose ?
PATRICK MAXWELL.
Bath.
" TINDERING TIME." — I have recently been told
that in a somewhat out-of-the-world village in
Oxfordshire the old people use the expression
" tendering time " to denote the dusk of the even-
ing when the lamps are lit. I never met this
phrase or one in any degree like it ; and I do not
think that it can have been at any time general.
Perhaps some reader of *N. & Q.' may have heard
it in another place. FLORENCE PEACOCK.
Dunstan House, Kirton-ia-Lindsey.
. XI. JUNE 5, '9?. J
NOTES AND QUERIES.
445
BALL-THROWING IN RED LION FIELDS IN 1693.
— Dryden, in his 'Explanatory Notes on the
Fourth Satyr ' of Persius, says his author speaks of
"Men, such as were skilful in the Five robust Exercises,
then in practice at Rome, and were perform'd in the
Circus, or Publick Place, ordain'd for them. These Five
he reckons up in this manner : 1. The Csestu?, or Whirl-
battp, describ'd by Virgil, in his fifth Eneid; and this
was the most dangerous of all the rest. The second was
the Foot-race. The Third the Discus, like the throwing
a weighty Ball ; a Sport now us'd in Cornwal, and other
parts of England ; we may see it daily practis'd in Bed-
Lion-Fields. The fourth was the Saltus, or Leaping :
And the fifth Wrestling naked, and besmear'd with Oil.
They who practis'd in these Five Manly Exercises, were
call'd UtvraeXoi."— Ed. 1697, p. 465.
F. J. F.
MAT DAY CUSTOM, BEDFORDSHIRE. — I cut
the following extract from the Daily Telegraph of
3 May :—
"A curious 'May Day' custom which prevails at
Tilsworth, Bedfordshire, was duly honoured on Saturday.
A band of young men of the village went round with a
load of May, and left a branch for every maiden in each
house. The following are the last three of the verses
sung on the occasion : —
A branch of May I have you brought
And at your door it stands ;
It is but a sprout, but it 's well budded out,
It 's the work of our Lord's hands.
Arise, arise, you pretty, fair maids,
And view your May so gay,
Or else you '11 say on another day,
We brought you not your May.
I have a purse in my pocket,
Tied with a silken string.
We '11 thank you for some silver,
To line It well within."
I think it worthy of being preserved in the
pages of ' N. & Q.' FLORENCE PEACOCK.
Duns tan House, Kirton-in-Lindsey.
TYPE-WRITING MACHINES. — I find in a recent
number of the Dispatch the following, which
should be placed on record in the pages of
' N. & Q.,' where no account has yet appeared of
the invention of the type-writing machine : —
" Who made the first of them? It seems it was one,
an Englishman, Henry Mill, who, in 1714, took out a
patent for such an instrument. The next recorded
patent for a type-writer was granted in France, in 1841,
to a blind man, Pierre Foucalt, whose machine, being
found practicable, was used in several institutions in
Europe. The first patent for working a machine upon
the type-bar principle was that of A. H. Beach in 1866.
The first practical machine was invented in 1867 by C.
Latham Sholes, an American, assisted by S. W. Soule and
Carlos Glidden. Soule and Glidden left the concern
long before the invention was fully worked out, so that
the real credit of the matter belongs to Sholes, who
persevered in the enterprise from 1867 to 1873, when he
took his machine for manufacture on a large scale to
Messrs. E. Remington & Sons, gunmakers, of New York,
who put it upon the market as the Remington type-
writer."
EVERARD HOME COLEMAN.
71, Brecknock Road.
"CRATTLE": " SULLOW." — As the word wattle
is not in the 'N. E. D.' its rarity is beyond all
dispute, and it is worth noting : " Then indeed
hath Jacob the right fruit of his sufferings, when
he makes all the stones of the Alter as chalk-stones,
crumbling them to crattle" (John Trapp on the
'XII. Minor Prophets,' 1654, p. 51).
The old Saxon word sullow is also rare in litera-
ture. The only instance I have found is this,
from Humphrey Sydenham's great sermon on ' The
Foolish Prophet,' preached at Taunton ad clerum,
22 June, 1636, and printed 1637 :—
" The spiritual 1 Plough is not halfe so well manag'd
by any, as one that was yesterday conversant with the
Goade and the Sullow; he knowes when the heart is to
bee plowed up, and when to lay it fallow, hee hath
learn'd it from his practice at the Furrow, where, the
other day, he followed the bellowing of his Oxen in the
wide field, and now he is a bleating with his Sheep in
the open congregation."
RICHARD H. THORNTON*
Portland, Oregon.
JOHN HUNTER'S HOUSE, LEICESTER SQUARE.
— John Hunter's house, No. 28, Leicester Square,
on the east side of the square, has at last been
pulled down. John Hollingshead, writing in 1892,
says : —
" Hunter's Museum was not pulled down to build
the Alhambra..i...but still remains as part of the great
music warehouse occupied by Rividre & Co.. ^...leading
into Castle Street, now Charing Cross Road." — ' Leicester
Square.'
John Hunter became the owner of No. 28 in
1783, with the ground behind it so far as a house
in Castle Street, which he also bought, and he built
his museum of comparative anatomy between the
two houses. The museum was about fifty-two feet
long by twenty-eight feet wide, with a gallery all
round, lighted from the top, with a lecture room
under. The premises after Hunter's death were
used as a picture gallery and exhibition room, and
were at one time the headquarters of the Middlesex
Volunteer Artillery. They were until recently in
the occupation of Messrs. Hawkes & Co., music-
sellers. JOHN HEBB.
Willesden Green, N.W.
We must request correspondents desiring information
on family matters of only private interest to affix their
names and addresses to their queries, in order that the
answers may be addressed to them direct.
HENRY HATTER.— The first Duke of Wellington
bought a picture (supposed to be of the Duke of
Brunswick) from this gentleman. Will any one
kindly give me information concerning this picture
and Mr. H. Hayter 1 Was he an artist 1
EVELYN WELLINGTON*
Apsley House.
446
NOTES AND QUERIES.
8. XI. JUNE 5, '97.
JOHN SMITH, LL.B. — I am attempting to col-
lect materials for a bibliography of works on
agriculture and for biographical sketches of their
authors. Particulars as to some of these writers
are provokingly scanty ; and I shall be grateful to
any one who can help me to identify John Smith,
LL.B., author of the 'Chronicon Rusticum Com-
merciale ; or, Memoirs of Wool,' published in two
volumes in 1747 (second edition 1757). It is
evident from his preface that Smith was a clergy-
man ; and from other pamphlets he wrote in reply
to some criticisms on the * Memoirs ' it is pretty
certain that he lived in Lincolnshire. He does
not appear, however, to have had any cure of souls
in the diocese of Lincoln. From his degree LL.B.
and from the list of subscribers to his book, he is
probably the same as a John Smith who graduated
as LL.B. from Trinity Hall, Cambridge, in 1725.
But as to his subsequent career I can ascertain
nothing, after a considerable amount of search, and
none of the usual sources of information gives any
help. Probably his merits are recorded on some
tombstone or memorial tablet, as it is evident that
his book had considerable vogue in his day, and
McCulloch describes the ' Memoirs ' as " one of
the most carefully compiled and valuable works
that has been published on the history of any
branch of trade." ERNEST CLARKE.
13, Hanover Square, W.
[Lowndes speaks of the ' Chronicon ' as an " invaluable
and erudite work."]
"CAITIFF." — Hunter, in his 'Hallamshire
Glossary ' (1829), says that this word is applied to
one suffering from bodily weakness in a memorial
from Hallamshire presented to the Council of the
North (1640) : " Aged eighty and above, being a
very caitiff, and lame for impotent old age."
Alas ! Hunter gives no reference. Where is the
text of this memorial to be found ? I have sought
in all the likely parts of Gutty's ' History of Hal-
lamshire,' and sought in vain.
THE EDITOR OF
•THE ENGLISH DIALECT DICTIONARY.'
Clarendon Press, Oxford.
USE OF ARMOUR IN EIGHTEENTH CENTURY. —
I should be glad to know whether actual instances
of the use of armour during the course of the
eighteenth century can be given. It is, I believe,
on record that Marlborough bad breastplates
supplied for his troops, and I presume therefore
that they were worn so long as he was with the
army, i. e., till 1711. As cuirasses were worn by
the French in Napoleon's time, it would be reason-
able to suppose that what these great commanders
at the beginning and end of the eighteenth cen-
tury approved of would also approve itself to
generals who commanded armies in the interval.
But I should like to find a record of the fact, and
especially to show that it would be official costume
for an aide-de-camp at Minden, 1759. There are
portraits of the Pretender and others in armour,
but it is said, I do not know why, that this was a
mere fancy costume. There is a query on this
subject among the earlier series of ' N. & Q.,' but
it refers only to full suits of armour. My query
relates to armour on the upper part of the body,
which I know that English troops had discontinued
and did not resume till some time after the Battle
of Waterloo. E. F. D. C.
HATTOCK : HADDOCK : HDTTOCK. — I am anxious
to ascertain the localities in which these various
names for a pile of corn sheaves are used.
Hattock is registered in Cumberland, Westmore-
land, Lonsdale, Craven, Lancashire, Cheshire,
South Cheshire, and Shropshire (Ellesmere), and
is reported from Harrogate in 1893.
Haddock appears in the E.D.S. Mid- Yorkshire
Glossary. It was used at Kirkby, Yorks, in 1863 ;
and in 1849 a writer in the Journal of the Royal
Agricultural Society (vol. x. part i. p. 133) de-
scribes the wheat as being " immediately put into
small * haddocks' or * mows' "; but our slip does
not specify the locality.
Buttock is recorded by Brockett (1846) and
Heslop (1893) in their Northumberland glossaries.
In which of these districts is the name confined to
the " sheaves of corn inverted over the * mow ' to
protect it from wet"? Miss Jackson ('Shropsh.
Word-Book,' s.v.) says, "The two end sheaves of
the * mow,' which consists of eight sheaves, are
taken as hattocks for the remaining six." This
use appears to point to the origin of the word in
hat, hut, " shelter," &c. Q. V.
GABRIEL GRUB. — In the late Prof. Jowett's
1 Life' there is a letter from him to F. T. Palgrave,
written 13 December, 1852, in which he says : —
" It is very good of you and Temple to want me to
come to Kneller for Christmas; at present my face is
set in another direction, to Malvern; like Gabriel Grub,
I am going to dig while others are making merry." — ' Life
and Letters of B. Jo wet t,' vol. i. p. 224.
Who was Gabriel Grub ; and what is the
allusion here? C. W. PENNY.
Wokingham.
[See 'Pickwick,' chap, xxix., 'The Story of the
Goblins who stole a Sexton.']
AMPHILLIS. — The mention of Amphilis New-
digate, by DOM BEDE CAMM, in his inquiry about
Thomas Braeme (ante, p. 347), prompts me to
aak if the origin of the name Amphilis is really
known. Dr. Charnock, in his ' Prsenomina,' says
authoritatively that it is from Greek a/i<£iAaAo?,
loquacious ; but is it ? He states also that it is
found as a Christian name " in the parish register
of Northrepps Hall, Norwich, also in those [sic]
of North Benfleet, Essex." On which one may
remark that North Repps Hall, a seat of the
S. XI. JUNE 5, '97.]
NOTES AND QUERIES,
447
Gurneys for over one hundred years, is not a
parish, and that the village of North Repps is
three miles from Gromer, but seventeen or eighteen
from Norwich. In the church of Hockwold
St. Peter, Norfolk, there is a brass to Amfelicia
Tindale, wife of Sir John Tindale and daughter
of Sir Humphrey Coningsby, Justice of the
Common Pleas. This lady died on 8 January,
1532, and her Christian name certainly appears to
me to be akin to Amphillis. Then in the ' History
of the Monastery, &c., of St. Peter, Gloucester,'
iii. 58 (Rolls Series, No. 33), we have mention of
Johannes Anphelise, " or Amfelise," in the index.
JAMES HOOFER.
Norwich.
MILITARY BANNERS AND COLOURS. — Will your
readers kindly send notices of any banners in
churches in Great Britain — as I should like to make
a list — to what regiment they belonged, date, &c. ?
E. E. THOTTS.
KINO LEAR HISTORICAL. — Would any of your
readers kindly tell me where I could obtain any
further information on the point raised by Warner
in his ' Albion's England ' as to King Lear being
an historical personage ? N.
"HAND -SHOE. " — The * Encyclopaedic Dic-
tionary ' gives handshoe as an obsolete word for a
glove. Can any reader give me an example of its
use? D. M. R.
LINE IN GOLDSMITH. — One constantly hears
Goldsmith's reference to —
The loud laugh that spoke the vacant mind
quoted as if it were intended as a disparaging
allusion to a stupid or empty-headed person. Is
not this quite wrong ? W. L. B.
CONVICTS IN ENGLAND. — What was the number
of convicted criminals in England during the
eighteenth century ? If unknown precisely, where
may I look for an approximate estimate ?
X. X.
SIR EDE BAYNHAM, mentioned in the examina-
tion of Guy Fawkes on 9 Jan., 1606.— Who was he ;
and what became of him ? J. H. BAYNHAM.
Park Avenue, Dover.
PROPRIETARY CHAPELS. — What is the precise
meaning of this term ? Are they mostly unlicensed,
and do the incumbents of them have to pay an
annual sum to the proprietor, and also to the
parish church to which they may be attached ?
M. L. H.
OLD SCHOOL AT PARSON'S GRBEN. — When, in
1823, and in his sixteenth year, my father arrived
in London from Bombay, he was placed at school
at Parson's Green, Fulham. I find the name
" Albion House " in one or two of his books — Dr.
Isaac Watts's ' Scripture History ' (1822) is one.
Can any one give me information respecting this
school ? Is the house still standing ?
THOMAS J. JEAEES.
Tower Houae, New Hampton.
CREST. — I possess a seal, seemingly of the earlier
part of the last century, on which is engraved a
crest : a dove with an olive-branch in its mouth
perched upon what seem to be two hearts. Can
any of your readers tell me what family bears or
has borne this crest 1 ANON.
PELLINQ BRIDGE. — I should feel very greatly
obliged if you could kindly inform me of the origin
of the name Felling Bridge (Lindfield, Sussex).
Was it so called after a family named Pelling,
residing in that neighbourhood? If so, any
particulars respecting it will be greatly valued,
as also any particulars respecting the place and its
name. NORTH LONDON.
WILLIAM CRAWFORD, M.P., who sat for the
City of London 1833 to 1841, was, I believe,
father of the late Robert Wygram Crawford, M.P.
for the City of London 1857 to 1874. Confirma-
tion of this fact and any information available as
to the said William Crawford's ancestry, marriage,
and issue will be appreciated. He is described in
Parliamentary Returns as "citizen and spectacle
maker." J. -P» B.
HENRY (OB RICHARD) CORNISH was Sheriff of
London about 1680. He was hanged on a charge
of high treason by James II. in 1685. His
attainder was reversed by William III. and Maiy
in 1689. Can any one tell me what children he
left and what is known about them ? Also, Were
his unjustly forfeited estates ever restored to his
heirs ? In a ' History of the City of London,' by
George Norton, a barrister, published in 1829, it
is stated that " James was constrained by a sense
of shame to return his forfeited estates to his
injured family." What evidence is there of this ?
It is more easy to believe that James pretended to
perform this act of justice than that a sense of
shame compelled him (of all men) really to do
so, especially when one remembers how bitterly
antagonistic to him his victim always bad been.
E. 0.
THE DERBY. — I ask on a point of supputation
merely, having nothing whatever to do with
gambling or " the turf " in any shape. The Derby,
since 1838, has been run on the second day of the
Epaom summer meeting. It is, I think, invariably
on the Wednesday of the last week in May or the
first week in June, but which week of the alter-
native two? What determines the fixture of the
particular week— i. «., of the summer meeting ? I
was long under the impression that it had some-
thing to do with the date of Whitsuntide ; but a
careful examination negatives that assumption,
448
NOTES AND QUERIES. [8»s.xLJrai6,'»r.
one not infrequently adopted by encyclopaedic
authorities. I know nothing of the pastime gener-
ally referred to as " sporting," so a reference to the
relation of the Derby to other fixtures — ex. gr.
spring meetings — would not advance me by one
step. NEMO.
JOHN EGBERTS, OF LLANFROTHEN, 1600.—-
Can any one give me details as to the will of
John Roberts, of Llanfrothen, co. Merioneth,
diocese of Bangor ? The editor of Lewis Dunn's
* Heraldic Visitations of Wales ' says (vol. ii.
p. 215) that the will is dated 26 January, 1600.
A summary of its contents would be most welcome.
p. BEDE CAMM, O.S.B.
St. Thomas's Abbey, Erdington, Birmingham,
OFFA'S GRAVE.— In an old copy of Seren Gomer,
a Welsh magazine, for October, 1836, an announce-
ment is made that a stone coffin bearing an
inscription that it contained the body of King
Offa was discovered in the churchyard at Hemel
Hempstead, Herts. Is there any foundation for
this? D. M. E.
' THE TOURIST IN WALES.'— This work, includ-
ing a * History of Wales,1 was published some fifty
years since by George Virtue, London and New
York, in shilling parts, each of which contained
three or four steel or copper plates by Bartlett,
H. Gastineau, and others. Can any one tell me
to how many numbers the work ran, and who was
the author? The present representatives of the
publisher can give me no information.
0. 0. B.
w A SOLE IS THE BREAD AND BUTTER OF FISH."
— Is this especially a Cornish saying; or is it
known in other parts of England ? The meaning
is that, as every one likes bread and butter, and
returns to it with pleasure after partaking of other
food, so in regard to sole, it is a fish which suits
all tastes, and to which people, after tiring of
salmon, turbo fc, whitebait, &c., often revert, and
never tire of having it put before them at their
meals. GEORGE 0. BOASE.
36, James Street, Buckingham Gate, 3.W.
WILLIAM HEWES, — I am desirous of obtaining
full information as to the career of William Hewes,
musician to Walter (Devereux), Earl of Essex, but
more especially that portion of it subsequent to
the death of his patron in 1576, If full informa-
tion cannot be given, I should be obliged by an
indication as to where research might be made
with probability of success.
C. SHIRLEY HARRIS.
YEOMEN OF THE GUARD. — I shall be greatly
obliged to any reader of ' N. & Q.' who will give
me information concerning the early history of the
Yeomen of the Guard, especially on the following
points : Henry VII. thanksgiving service a.t St.
Paul's Cathedral, 31 August, 1485 ; siege and
capture of Dixmoyden, in Flanders, 1489 ; siege of
Tournay ; siege of Boulogne, 1492. Who was John
Best, who, according to the ' Book of Dignities,'
was champion of England and Captain of the Yeo-
men of the Guard in 1592 (the Dymocke family
having been champions of England since the
twelfth century) ? I would say that I have already
consulted such authorities as Hall, Ley land,
Fabian, Polydore Vergil, Sir John Fenn, Samuel
Pegge. Nichol, Preston, and others.
DO ' *
CRE"SUS.— Can any reader tell me what familiar
object in the domestic life of the Swiss Alps is
called by this name ? W. H. C,
CHILDREN OP SIR HENRY PERCY.
(8*8. xi. 329.)
Mr. C. Bridger, the genealogist, after completing
Lord Farnham's * Hundred Eoyal Descents/ pri-
vately printed, offered to feed my vanity more
bountifully, one descent being through Sir Ealph
Percy, father of Sir Henry, which I never took
pains to verify, and consequently it does not
appear in Sir John Maclean's ' History of Trigg
Minor,' i. 683*. The following references, how-
ever, may be of service to J. V. G. ! The Anti-
quarian Eepertory,' vol. iv., contains a folding
pedigree of Sir Ealph's issue, which agrees with
that related in Sir Egerton Brydges's edition of
Oollins's « Peerage,1 ii. 282. Berry's 'Essex
Genealogies,' fol. 71. The Sir Ealph Percy here
mentioned was probably the son of ' Eauf Percy,
Knyght, [who] rered werre at Heggelamore ayeinst
oure Soverayne Lord" ('Eollsof Parl.,' v. 511),
unless this one had by a first marriage a daughter,
Catherine, wife of le Grand, whose daughter
and heiress married the Sir John Wiltshire men-
tioned, Comptroller of Calais, 1508. Harleian
MS., 4031, fol. 139, continues the line from Sir
John Wiltshire down to my ancestress, Mary
Carew, wife of Walter Dowrish, of Dowrish,
Devon. Though the Dowrishes had subsequently
a distinct descent from Hotspur, grandfather of Sir
Ealph Percy, which does not affect J. V. G/s
query, the mention of their name affords the oppor-
tunity of correcting two errors at p. x of the
introduction to the Carew MSS. ' published by
the authority of the Lords Commissioners of Her
Majesty's Treasury."
Sir Nicholas Harvey, " the valiant squire " of
King Henry VIII. (not Sir Eichard Harvey, as
stated in the introduction), married Bridget, the
daughter and heiress of Sir John Wiltshire. Their
daughter Anne was married to Dr. George Carew,
Dean of Exeter, Christ's Church, Oxford, Windsor,
and the Chapel Eoval, and bad issue Sir Peter j
8"> 8. XI. JOHE 5, '97.]
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449
George, Earl of Totnes ; and Mary, married to
Walter Dowrish. The editor's remark " that Dr.
Carew must have had powerful influence at Court "
is probably correct, seeing that his brother, Sir
Gawen Carew, married the sister of Charles
Brandon, Duke of Suffolk, who married the sister
of King Henry VIII. Dr. Carew, " by his wife
[Ann Harvey], whom he lost not long after their
marriage," &c. Another mistake in the introduc-
tion : she survived her husband, who died 1583,
and resided at Dowrish with her widowed daughter
Mary Dowriah (see 'Chanc. Pro,/ temp. Eliz., i.
233), after whose death she removed to Markes
Hall, near Romford, the seat of her brother, Sir
George Harvey, Lieutenant of the Tower, and there
died and was buried in Eomford Church. Her
monument, erected by her son, the earl, was re-
moved of late years, with that of her brother, Sir
George, from the chancel into the parvise porch.
The parish register gives : " 1605, Aug. 28. The
worshipfull Mrs. Carow, mother of my Lord Carow
was buried." Sir John Maclean, *an authority on
the Carews, who wrote 'The Life of Sir Peter
Carew, Sen. ,' and edited ' The Letters of the Earl
of Totnes ' for the Camden Society, was unaware
of this fact.
The above introduction, p. xxviii, questions the
accuracy of those biographers who state that the
Earl of Totnes went to Ireland unmarried. He
was appointed Master of the Ordnance there
1 February, 1588, and was married, 31 May,
1580, to Joyce Clopton, at Stratford-on-Avon,
where he was buried 2 May, 1629.
H. H. DRAKE.
Most of the works which treat on the Percy
family contain but a small amount of information
respecting Sir Ralph Percy. The following may
be the evidence J. V. G. requires : —
Sir Ralph Percy, Knt., the seventh son of
Henry, the second Earl of Northumberland,
married Eleanor, only daughter and heir of Lau-
rence and Matilda Acton, who owned lands in
Hasand and Acton, &c., near Alnwick. The said
Eleanor married for her second husband John
Carlyle. Sir Ralph had three sons and one
daughter.
1. Sir Henry Percy, Knt., who married and left
a son John and a daughter Margaret, married,
firstly, to Sir Harry Widdrington, of Widdring-
ton Castle, knight ; secondly, to Sir William
Ellerker, knight.
2. Sir Ralph, who had an annuity for life of
twenty marks per annum from Henry, the fourth
Earl of Northumberland.
3. Sir George, who married Eleanor, daughter
of Sir William Hylton, Knt., and relict of Owen,
second Lord Ogle. He had an annuity of twenty
pounds per annum from Henry, the fourth earl.
4. Margaret, wife of Sir Ralph Harbottle, Knt.
The above is taken from documents of the Percy
family preserved at Sion House and Alnwick
Castle. For further details, see Bryd^es's Collins's
' Peerage of England/ 1812, vol. ii. pp. 282-90.
JOHN RADCLIFFE.
ST. DUNSTAN (8th S. xi. 328).— The unerring
accuracy of Bishop Stubbs puts it right in a
few lines of his preface to the 'Memorials of
St. Dunstan,' Rolls Series, p. Ixxix : —
" After his expulsion from Athelstan's Court, he stayed
a long time at Winchester with Elphege, who prevailed
on him to become a monk. After this we again find him
at Glastonbury in attendance on the Lady Ethelfleda,
who had built herself a house there."
The cell is thus described by Eadmer in
* Memorials/ u.s., p. 1*73 : —
" Post aliquantos novae conversionia suae diea Glaa-
toniam Dunstanus perrexit, et ibi juxta ecclesiam sanctae
Mariae sibi domunoulam adeo paryulam fecit ut
mirum habeant qui earn noverunt, qualiter ibi vivus
homo degere potuerit. Ipsemet enim earn mensus sum,
et nihil ultra quatuor [quinque, Osbern] pedes in longi-
tudine nee plus quam duos ac semis habet in latitudine.
Altitude autem staturam hominis concipit."
Another biographer, Osbern, states its closeness
to the church thus, u.s., p. 83 : —
" Cui [soil, ecclesiae] etiam adhaerentem cellam rive
destinam sive spelaaum, sive alio quolibet nomine rectiua
nominari potest."
ED. MARSHALL.
I can find no old writer who states that Dun-
stan retired "to a humble cell near Winchester," and
the question seems to be concentrated in the word
" near." Whether sixty miles, which is about the
distance of Glastonbury from Winchester, would
be considered near is a question. Fuller in his
* Church History ' says : —
"In 933 now began St. Dunstan to appear in Court.
In 937 banished from Court, Dunstan returns to Glassen-
bury and there falls a puffing and blowing in his Forge.
Here he made himself a Cell (or rather a Little-ease),
being but four foot long, two and a half broad," &c.
Probably S. G. D. will find that it refers to the
cell at Glastonbury. JOHN RADCLIFFE.
GlLLMAN OR GlLMAN FAMILY (8tb S. xi. 222,
296, 333). — Before communicating with {N. & Q.' I
was anxious to see the contribution of MB. WALTER
RYE to the Genealogist; the current number, to
which he refers, contains, however, nothing on the
subject, and I can only assume his article has been
held over.
But for heraldic evidence, and the assertion of
Burke that " the records prove the descent of all
the Gillmans from Cilmin-troed-du," the early spell-
ing of the name would certainly have suggested to
me that it was akin to William in its forms
Wilhelmus, Gulielmus, Guillelmine, &c.
In searching for early records of the Gloucester-
shire Gillmans, from whom I am descended, the
first instance of the name which I have hitherto
been able to trace occurs in 1 283, wjien Thomas
450
NOTES AND QUERIES.
S. XI. JUNE 5, '97.
Ookere was mayor of Bristol and Richard atte Ok
with Guillemyne de Boys, Prsepositi. Can this
be read as Gillman (William) of the Wood ?
After this date the surname is variously written
Gylemin, Gylmyn, Gilmin, Oilman, until about
the close of the sixteenth oentury, when the present
form, Gillman, appears.
Mr. Alexander Gillman, in his exhaustive his-
tory, does not note the fact that the ancient form
of this name survives, but little altered, in the
French patronymic Guillemin.
It would be of great interest to me could any
correspondent inform me if any connexion is re-
corded, and if the coat borne by the French racs
is, or has been, the same as that borne by the
English, viz., Argent, a man's dexter leg, couped
at the thigh, sable. OH AS. GILLMAN.
Richmond, Church Fields, Salisbury.
The Rev. J. R. Wood was a royal chaplain, and
died Canon of Worcester at an advanced age,
within the last ten or twelve years.
EDWARD H. MARSHALL, M.A.
OUNOBBLINUS OR CYMBELINE (8th S. X. 474 ;
xi. 13, 132, 356). — Triad 35 also makes Cara-
dawc (Oaractacus) the son of Bendigeid Vran ab
Llyr (Bran the Blessed). The portion referring
to him is thus given in the notes to Lady Charlotte
Guest's ' Mabinogion ': —
" The three blissful Rulers of the Island of Britain,
Bran the Blessed, the eon of Llyr Llediaith, who first
brought the faith of Christ to the nation of the Cymry
from Rome, where he was seven years a hostage for his
son Caradawc, whom the Romans made prisoner through
the craft, and deceit, and treachery of Aregwedd Foed-
dawg."
This traitress is usually supposed to be Cartis-
mandua, but her second name has been identified
with Boadicea, against whom, however, no such
charge is brought by classical historians.
At the second reference ME. J. FOSTER PALMER
refers to Camden as an authority for the statement
that Caractacus was the son of Cunobelinus.
Oamden's references to Caractacus are somewhat
confused, and even conflicting. In the body of
his work, when speaking of the Trinobantes, he
says, "Cunobilin had the government of these
parts"; after whose death "Aulus Plautius, by
commission from the Emperor Claudius, made an
attempt upon this country. Togodumnus, the one
of Cunobilin's sons, he slew ; the other, Caratacus,
he conquer'd ; and (as it is in the Fasti Capitolini)
had a Triumph upon it." In his introductory
account of the Romans in Britain he says, quoting
Dion Cassius, that Plautius "first overcame
Cataratacus, and after him Togodumnus, the sons
of Cynobelline who dy'd before "; but two pages
later on he gives a different story from Tacitus : —
"From hence they [the Romans under Ostorius]
marched into the country of the Silures, who besides
their own natural fierceness, rely'd much upon the valor
of Caractacus, eminent among all the commanders in
Britain for his experience in affairs, either doubtful or
prosperous."
In the well-known story of the defeat and captivity
of the British hero that follows, he continues to
spell the name Caractacus. The story ends with the
statement that a triumph was decreed to Ostorius
for this defeat of Caractacus. The questions arise :
Were Caractacus and Cataratacus two persons, or
was the same person twice taken captive, first by
Plautius and afterwards by Ostorius ; and did each
general enjoy the honour of a triumph on his
account? And if Caractacus was the son of
Cunobelinus, how is it that he was of the Silures
(as Tacitus, quoted by Camden, and the Triads
both assert), and his father of the Trinobantes ? The
solution of these difficulties may be very simple,
but as T. W. has raised the question of the identity
of Cataratacus with Caractacus it appears to be
called for. 0. 0. B.
DANIEL SEDGWICK, ETHNOLOGIST (8th S. ii,
409, 451 ; iii. 18).— In Lord Selborne's 'Memorials '
(Macmillan, 1896), vol. ii. pp. 464-5, further
generous mention is made of this collector and
writer, in addition to the reference to him in the
preface and notes to ' The Book of Praise,' edited
by Lord Selborne in 1862.
After writing of the circumstances under which
this book was produced and his scheme of selection,
Lord Selborne goes on : —
" In this work I was aided by Mr. Daniel Sedgwick,
a small bookseller and publisher in an obscure part of the
City of London. He was a remarkable man, who had
made English hymns his particular study, and knew more
about them and their authors (bibliographically) than
any one else then living. He obtained for me many
books to which I could not otherwise have found access;
by means of which I was enabled, in most cases, to
ascertain the authorship, and to verify the authentic
text, of each hymn which I selected, as well as to make
the selection itself better than, without those materials, it
could have been."
0. W. H.
DARVEL GADARN (8th S. xi. 407).— Darvel
Gadarn was a Welsh saint of the sixth century.
The following references are quite exhaustive on
him, his image, and his shrine : 'N. & Q.,' 6th S.
iii. 87, 128, 178 ; iv. 156, 218.
0. F. S. WARREN, M.A.
Longford, Coventry.
SONGS ON SPORT (8th S. xi. 428).— MR. EED-
WAY asks for what does not exist in anything like
a representative form. In preparing my 'National
Ballad and Song' — the section devoted to ' Hunting
Songs and Sporting Ballads' will be ready on
1 Sept. — I have found these lyrics of sport ex-
tremely scattered; a few in well-known miscel-
laneous collections, but chiefly, including many of
the best, in such ephemeral and "on-get-at-able'1
sources as drollery, merriment, broadside ballad,
S. XI. JUNE 6, '97.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
451
chap, magazine, and newspaper. I have what I
believe to be an unequalled collection ; but to
enumerate the sources would take up too much
space. If MR. EEDWAY cares to communicate
with me I may be able to help him.
JOHN S. FARMER.
32, Brunswick Square, W.C,
TITLE AND AUTHOR OF BOOK (8th S. xi. 428).—
The book MR. BURKE wants is ' Fly-Leaves,' by
the late C. S, Calverley, Fellow of Christ's College,
Cambridge (Deighton & Bell, Cambridge ; Bell,
London). The companion work is his ' Verses and
Translations.' The two ought always to go together.
The poem which MR. BURKE calls 'The Cat' is 'Sad
Memories,' and is printed not in eights and sixes,
but in fourteens. 0. F. S. WARREN, M.A.
Longford, Coventry.
The poem on the cat is Calverley 's ; but it is,
I think, misquoted. H.
CHRISTOPHER PACKE (8th S. xi. 427).— A full
account of him (by Charles Welch, F.S.A.) is in
the 'Dictionary of National Biography.' His
father is there stated to be Thomas Packe, of
Kettering, or Grafton, co. Northampton ; the names
of bis three wives are given, as also the date of his
death, 27 May, 1682, aged about eighty-four, and
his burial at Prestwold, co. Leicester. He was
one of Cromwell's "House of Lords," 1657-8.
The burial of "Alderman Pack's wife, 16 Dec.,
1658," as given in ' Smyth's Obituary, 1627-74,' is
not, however, mentioned. The references to the
Sixth Series of ' N. & Q. ' do not appear to be
accurate. G. E. C.
" AVE, CAESAR, MORITURI TE SALUTANT " (8th S.
ix. 267, 415 ; xi. 316).— When the Prince of Wales
passed through Aden, on his way to India, at the
end of 1875, the motto "Morituri te salutamus"
was placed by the witty, but somewhat irreverent,
Assistant Eesident, who was in charge of the
decorations of the town, over the principal entrance
to the public abattoirs, in front of which His Eoyal
Highness passed en route to the cantonments.
W. F. PRIDE AUX.
" ALPHABET-MAN " (8ih S. xi. 207, 271, 318).—
From the 'Royal Kalendar' for 1788 (London,
J. Debrett), it appears that at that time
" the Window-Man and Alphabet-Keeper on the
general days received 100?., and the Window-
Man on the bye days 501." BEN. WALKER.
Langstone, Erdington.
Edward Chamberlayne, in his ' Angliae Notitia,'
1694, gives, " Alphabet - Keeper, Ashburnham
Frowde, Esquire, 100Z." In the twentieth edition,
1702, he is again mentioned and the names of
three Window-Men given. The thirty-fifth edition,
1743, gives, " Alphabet- Keeper, Mr. Edmund
Jones, and Window-Man for the by- days, Mr.
Savil Leigh." The various editions of the above
work give some quaint information respecting the
foreign and penny postal arrangements, but they
do not state the duties attached to the officials
mentioned. JOHN EADCLIFFE.
SEAL OF CORPORATION OF SLIGO (8th S. xi.
327). — In 1612 the town of Sligo was made a
parliamentary borough by charter of incorporation.
A copy of the seal bearing that date is given in the
' Topographical Dictionary of Ireland,' by Samuel
Lewis, London, 1847. I will furnish your corre-
spondent with a tracing of the seal on receipt of
his address. EVERARD HOME COLEMAN.
71, Brecknock Road,
The city of Sligo, co. Sligo, Ireland, has no
armorial bearings registered in the Ulster's Office.
The design upon the seal which does duty repre-
sents a ruined building overhung by a tree and a
hare courant therefrom. JOHN EADCLIFFE.
CHAPEL-SNAKE = COBRA DE CAPELLO (8th S. xi.
364). — It is a fact that the cobra does frequent
churches and houses. When an organ was re-
moved from a church in Bombay, many years ago,
a gigantic cobra was discovered underneath the
organ. Cappello signifies a hood, and cappella a
chapel in Italian. Capilla in Spanish is both a
hood and a chapel. Capella is a chapel, and capello
a hood in Portuguese. E. YARDLEY.
"BARLEY-MEN" (8th S. xi. 387). — Jamieson's
reference is no doubt to a contract anno 1721,
produced in a state made up in a ranking and sale
or some other proceeding of Fraser of Fraserfield.
The papers will easily be found from the index to
the Arniston or some other of the numerous collec-
tions of session papers in the Advocates' Library,
Edinburgh. Barley is probably an error in tran-
scription. The usual spelling is birley; but every
variety that ingenuity or carelessness could devise
is met with in old deeds. Contracts such as that
referred to were at one time very common.
DAVID MURRAY.
Glasgow.
This is a variation of the word hurley -man, an
officer who in former days was attached to
corporate bodies and acted as assessor of the value
of disputed lands, &c. Two burley-men were, up
to within quite recent years, on the staff of the
officials of the Corporation of Wigan. A.
CHURCH TOWER BUTTRESSES (8tta S. x. 494;
xi. 51, 136, 318, 394).— It is now nearly half a
century since Mr. Raskin wrote his impassioned
protest against buttresses, and it has been the
fashion ever since then to echo his sentiments.
While admiring very much his earnestness and
eloquence, one may now and then doubt his entire
correctness. Even Homer is said sometimes to nod.
452
NOTES AND QUERIES. [8»&xi.JuNH6,w.
To enforce his argument he gives a beautiful draw-
ing of St. Mark's Tower, and a caricature of what
he calls a British tower. Without noticing it, his
illustration negatives his proposition. St. Mark's
is a tower with five buttresses on each side of it ;
very properly, considering its great height. A
well designed and executed buttress is not an
indication of weakness, but a visible and beautiful
sign of strength, A heavy peal of bells, such as
most towers have to carry, could not be rung in
safety except for these massive counterforts. The
only other way would be to build the tower walls
as thick as the buttresses.
WILLIAM 0. STREET.
Without either the wish or the ability to engage
m an architectural discussion in your columns, I
fail to understand why well-designed buttresses
should be deformities to a church tower any more
than to the aisles. So far as they impart strength,
together with the appearance of it, surely they are
adornments. JOHN HOBSON MATTHEWS.
Town Hall, Cardiff.
CULLODEN (8» S. xi. 407).— A reference to the
second volume of ' Medallic Illustrations,' printed
by order of the Trustees of the British Museum,
1885, will show that the medal mentioned by
K. S. C. was struck by Pinchbeck (the toyman),
and refers not to the final overthrow of the Pre-
tender's attempt at Culloden, but to the taking of
Carlisle, four months earlier, on 30 December,
1745- J. ELIOT HODGKIN.
BAXTER'S c ENGLISH HEXAPLA ' (8th S, xi. 407).
—The introduction to Bagster's (not Baxter's)
Jinghsh Hexapla' was written by Dr. Temple
^hevalher, Canon of Durham.
0. F. S. WARREN, M.A.
Longford, Coventry.
' NOT WORTH A TINKER'S CURSE " (8th S. xi.
!45).— Perhaps the following, from the 'Slang
hctionary ' (1873), will enable MR. RATCLIFFE to
see more clearly the meaning of this expression :—
" Curse, anything worthless. Corruption of the Old
nglisn word kerse, a small sour wild cherry • French
cerue ; German, Jcirsch. ' Vision of Piers Ploughman ' :'
Wisdom and witt no we is not worth a kerse,
But if it be carded with cootis as clothers'
Kembe their woole.
The expression 'not worth a curse,' used frequently
nowadays, is therefore not properly profane, though it
is frequently intensified by a profane expletive. Home
Tooke says from Jcerse, or cress. The expression 'not
worth a tinker's curse,' may, or may not, have arisen
from misapplication of the word's origin, though as now
used it certainly means curse in its usual sense. Tinkers
o curae^ unfortunately, and it will take a good deal of
School-Board work to educate them out of it, as well as
a fair amount of time. The phrase ' not worth a tinker's
damn is evidently a variation of this, unless, indeed, it
should be spelt 'dam, 'and used as a reference to the
general worthlessnesa of the wives and mothers of
tinkers. The latter is merely offered to those who are
speculative in such matters, and is not advanced as an
opinion."
Cf. also the 'Encyclopaedic Dictionary,' under
"Curse." C. P. HALE.
This is an expression I never met with before.
Here, in the west, it is the cobbler whose curse is
the measure of worthlessness, while the tinker
comes in to emphasise when a superlative absolute
is desired. His habit of picking up neglected
trifles, and of parting with nothing for nothing, is
pithily expressed by the value set upon his gift—
less worth, even, than a cobbler's curse. Our every-
day appraisement is " not wo'th a cobbler's cuss,"
to which is often added "nor a tinker's gee."
F. T. ELWORTHT.
Your correspondent asks why things are " not
worth a tinker's curse." I should think that the
obvious answer is, because the tinker's curse is so
common as to have become an article of no value —
a mere form of speech. The expression may be
compared with " not worth a pin," " not worth a
rush," &c. F. 0. BIRKBECK TERRY.
BEN JONSON (8th S. xi. 368).— Frank Buckland
was evidently not aware that Ben Jonson's grave
had been opened previous to 1849. The evidence
he collected concerning the openings of 1849 and
1859 will be found in his 'Curiosities of Natural
History,' Fourth Series, Popular Edition, 1888,
pp. 238-48. In 1 849 the body was evidently dis-
covered in an upright position, as the following
extract testifies : —
"In the course of the operations, Ryde himself saw
the two leg bones of Jonson, fixed bolt upright in the
sand, as though the body had been buried in the upright
position, and the skull came rolling down among the
sand, from a position above the leg bones to the bottom
of the newly-made grave."
JOHN T. PAGE.
West Haddon, Northamptonshire.
There are various notices of the opening of Ben
Jonson's grave. The latest of these of which I
am aware, in which there is a review of the others,
is that in ' Shakespeare's Bones/ by 0. M. Ingleby,
1883, Triibner, pp. 23 seq. ED. MARSHALL.
See Stanley's * Memorials of Westminster
Abbey,' and Buckland's Curiosities of Natural
History,' Fourth Series.
EDWARD H. MARSHALL, M.A.
For 'Burial in an Erect Posture,' see 'N. & Q.,'
1st S. viii. 5, 59, 233, 455 ; 7th S. ii. 204.
EVERARD HOME COLEMAN.
71, Brecknock Road.
" A CAT MAY LOOK AT A KING" (8th S. xi. 387).
— A small book with this title was published
London, 12mo., 1652 ; reprinted, Amsterdam, 8vo.,
1714, with woodcuts of a cat and a king, pp. 59 ;
reprinted in 'Somers Tracts,' Second Series, iv.
. XI. JUNK 5, '97.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
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397 ; again, with curious particulars relative to
English history, by Sir A. Weldon, from the
original MS., Liverpool, 18mo., pp. 50, 1817; and
again, 8vo., pp. 46, 1820.
The edition of 1714 provoked a reply, 'A Cat
may look upon a King, answer'd paragraph by
paragraph,' 12mo., n.d. John Dunton also pro-
duced * A Oat may look on a Queen ; or, a Satyr
on her present Majesty,' London, 1705. See ' Life
and Errors of John Dunton/ 1818, i. xxvii.,
Nichols's * Literary Anecdotes,' 1812, v. 76.
See the New Monthly Magazine, 1821 j Bohn's
'Lowndes'; 'Les Chats,' par Jean Gay, Paris,
1866, p. 255. W. 0. B.
I suppose occasions for using this proverb in
literature are rare, for I have not noted a single
printed example except in books specially con-
cerned with proverbs. It has, however, existed
from early times, for I find in Heywood's * Pro-
verbs,' of reputed date 1546 (1874 reprint, p. 122) :
" also on my maydes he is ever tooting."
" Can yee judge a mau," quoth I, " by this looking ?
What, a cat may looke on a King, yee know."
It was known also to Bacon, being in his * Promus '
in the very same words. F. ADAMS.
106A, Albany Road, Camberwell,
When I was a child this saying was used as a
retort to the contemptuous question, "Who are
you staring at 1 " The reply was— -
If a cat may look at a king,
Surely I may look at an ugly thing,
I refer to Surrey and Lincolnshire, one or both of
them, about thirty years ago.
JOHN HOBSON MATTHEWS.
Town Hall, Cardiff.
" A catt may look on a kynge," Bacon's f Promus,'
No. 489. Mrs. Henry Pott, in her introductory
chapter to the ' Promus,' informs us that all the
English proverbs in the Promus,' and therefore
this among the rest, are taken from the single
collection of J. Heywood's * Epigrams ' (published
1562, reprinted for the Spenser Society in 1867).
E. M. SPBNCE, M.A.
Mange of Arbuthnott, N.8.
FRENCH PRISONERS OF WAR IN ENGLAND (8th
S. ix. 289, 355, 497; x. 64, 137, 197, 341, 457;
xi. 259). — The following account, by a most com-
petent eye-witness, of the wretched state of French
prisoners, is interesting as characteristic of the
times of the horrible Peninsular Wars, and as a
companion picture to the state of the English
prisoners at Verdun and other French prisons as
detailed in 'A Picture of Verdun,' 1810. The
extract is from ' Wesley's Journal,' 1805, vol. xi.
p. 83 :—
"Monday, 15 October, 1759. I walked up to Knowle,
a mile from Bristol, to see the French prisoners. Above
eleven hundred of them, we were informed, were con-
toed in that little place ; without anything to lie on, but
a little dirty straw, or anything to cover them, but a
few foul thin rags, either by day or night, BO that they
died like rotten sheep. I was much affected, and
preached in the evening, on Exodus xxiii. 9 : ' Thou
sbalt not oppress a stranger; for ye know the heart of
a stranger, seeing ye were strangers in the land of Egypt.'
Eighteen pounds were contributed immediately, which
were made up four and twenty the next day. With this
we bought linen and woollen cloth, which was made up
into shirts, waistcoats, and breeches. Some dozens of
stockings were added ; all which were carefully distri-
buted, where there was the greatest want. Presently
after, the Corporation of Bristol sent a large quantity of
mattresses and blankets. And it was not long, before
contributions were set on foot, at London, and in various
parts of the kingdom. So that I believe from this time
they were pretty well provided with all the necessaries
of life.
"Friday, 24 October, 1760. I visited the French
prisoners at Enowle, and found many of them almost
naked again, In hopes of provoking others to jealousy,
I made another collection for them, and ordered the
money to be laid out in linen and waistcoats, which were
given to those that were most in want." — Vol. xii. p. 32,
1791.
A. B. G.
My inquiry on this subject has procured me a
good deal of interesting information about it ; but
there is still one point on which I remain in the
dark, namely, whether any record was kept by
Government of the names of these prisoners and
other particulars respecting them, and, if so, where
it is now to be seen. My curiosity is inspired by
the fact that I have in my possession a small
water-colour drawing of two children grouped
together, done by a French prisoner of war in a
southern town of Shropshire, and I should much
like to know something about the painter of them.
They must have been done some time between the
years 1808 and 1815, perhaps about 1812, and the
drawing and ingenuous gracefulness of the figures
proclaim an artist of no mean proficiency.
J. F.
I have often heard my grandmother (who was
born in 1792) say that she remembered, as a young
woman, the French prisoners of war being in the
neighbourhood of Okehampton, in Devonshire.
I have also a memory of a French burial-ground in
the district near Bolton-le- Moors.
T. CANN HUGHES, M.A.
Lancaster.
CHERRY BLOSSOM FESTIVAL (8th S. xi. 48,
312). — The same story, mutatis mutandis, is told
about " the maidens of Verdun " at the beginning
of the first French Revolution. Having saved
their native city by going on a peaceful embassy,
which was successful, these girls afterwards were
cruelly executed by their own countrymen.
E. WALFOED.
Ventnor.
' DICTIONARY OF NATIONAL BIOGRAPHY ' : M.P.s
(8th S. xi. 365). — I am pleased to see that MR.
W, D. PINK is interested in the descent of some
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8, XI. JUNE 5, '97.
members of the Eogers family ; and I would also
ask if any correspondent could help me to iden-
tify the John Eogers whose daughter Elizabeth
married Edward Ryder, of Carrington, co. Chester,
father of John Ryder, Bishop of Killaloe, 1612-13,
with the Rogers of Cannington, or others of the
name. WM. JACKSON PIGOTT.
Dundrum, co. Down.
ALDERMAN BECKFORD'S SPEECH TO GEORGE III.
(8th S. xi. 386).— In the ' Annual Register ' for
1770 — the copy before me is dated 1803 — Beck-
ford's speech is given; "the Lord Mayor requested
leave to reply, which being granted, his Lordship
addressed him in the following words"; it is re-
ported ; and it is added that " the Lord Mayor
waited near a minute for a reply, but none was
granted" (xiii. Ill, 203). Is this how the account
stands in the original issue of the ' Annual
Register ' ? EDWARD H. MARSHALL, M.A.
Hastings.
PLANTATION OP JAMES I. IN ULSTER (8th S. xi.
407).— MR. J. MACKAY WILSON will find a list of
Scottish undertakers to whom allotments were
made in the county of Donegal in ' The Confisca-
tion of Ulster,' by Thomas MacNevin, Dublin,
James Duffy, 1846. By it I see that 1,000 acres
in the county Donegal were allotted to Sir Patrick
M'Kay, but that in 1619, when the survey was
taken, they were in the possession of John Murray.
H. B. HYDE.
Baling.
MR. J. MACKAY WILSON could hardly do better
than consult, in the first instance, the " Ireland"
volumes of descriptive indices to the Domestic
State Papers for the reign of James I.
JOHN HOBSON MATTHEWS.
Town Hall, Cardiff.
LABELS ON BOOKS (8th S. xi. 408).— Judicious
damping with hot water is the best, if not the only,
way to remove these. If done long enough, it will
soften almost any paste or gum. Either dab and
dab with a small sponge, or lay on a damp hand-
kerchief or two or three sheets of blotting-paper,
with or without a light weight to keep up the
touch. But it is better to let the label be than to
damage the binding. In that case take pen and
ink and ruler and neatly rule out the print. Make
no untidy scrawls. 0. F. S. WARREN, M.A.
Longford, Coventry.
WESLEYAN MONUMENTS (8th S. xi. 386).— MR.
LEVESON GOWER has done good service in drawing
attention to the present condition of the monu-
ments which formerly occupied positions on the
walls of Whitefield's Chapel in Tottenham Court
Road. I believe the site of the chapel has now
been turned into a recreation ground, known as
Whitefield Gardens. From an account of the
opening ceremony, which appeared in the Times oi
18 Feb., 1895, 1 gathered that the monuments of
Toplady and Bacon were preserved on the spot ;
but as no mention was made of the memorial of
Whitefield and his wife, I may be wrong in my
surmise. Fortunately the inscriptions on all these
memorials are preserved in Cansick's ' Epitaphs of
Middlesex': "St. Pancras,"pp. 187-206. It would,
however, be as well to learn something of the in-
tentions of the present custodians of the monuments
themselves. JOHN T. PAGE.
West Haddon, Northamptonshire.
WILKES (8th S. xi. 249, 270).— H. B. P. will
not persuade me that Wilkes, when he heard of
Thurlow's speech, exclaimed, "God forget you,"
&c. On the only occasion on which I saw the story
in print, it was stated that Wilkes was standing
at the foot of the throne in the House of Lords,
and interrupted Thurlow with the well-known
exclamation. The story as reported by H. B. P.
is, to me, impossible. ED. PHILIP BELBEN.
Branksome Chine, Bournemouth.
LONDON TOPOGRAPHY : No. 37, LEICESTER
SQUARE (8th S. xi. 225, 373).— In the * Annals
of Newgate; or, Malefactors' Register/ vol. iv.,
1776, there is a long narrative of the murder by
Gardelle, occupying nine pages. The locus is
there described as " a house in Leicester Fields/'
and it is stated that the convict
" was carried in a cart through the Old Bailey, down
Fleet Street and the Strand, to Leicester Square, opposite
the house where be committed the murder; there it
stopped for two or three minutes, and the prisoner just
looked up at the building, after which they proceeded
to the gallows in the Hayrnarket."
As it appears that the house was searched by
warrant from " Mr. Fielding and two other Justices
of Middlesex," and Gardelle arrested under the like
authority, the exact position might be ascertained
from official records. W. B. H.
" NOT WORTH A RAP " (8th S. xi. 368). — Dean
Swift, in his 'Drapier's Letters/ employs the
expression in several places of rap, applied to base
brass and copper coins. Thus, in his first letter,
speaking of the scarcity of halfpence and farthings,
he states : " Many counterfeits passed about under
the name of raps" (see vol. iv. p. 66, Falkner's
edition, 1735). He also mentions raps more than
once in his third letter. The rap was well known
in Dublin previous to the universal circulation of
Her Majesty's present bronze coinage. W. F.
HATCHMENTS IN CHURCHES (8th S. xi. 387). —
A hatchment was hung outside the house of a
deceased gentleman during the time that his body
lay in state. It was carried in the funeral pro-
cession, and placed on the wall of the family burial-
place, inside the church, where it was allowed to
remain. The sweeping innovations of modern
times have caused the loss of many of these inter-
. XI. JUNE 5, '97.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
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eating heraldic insignia. In Lelant Church, in
1886, the hatchment of a Mack worth- Praed of
Trevetho was standing loose against the inner wall.
JOHN HOBSON MATTHEWS.
Town Hall, Cardiff.
The custom of placing hatchments in churches,
the law on the subject, and reference to works
relating thereto, has been treated on in * N, & Q.,'
2nd S. vii. 199, 244 ; &* S. vi. 288, 433.
EVERARD HOME COLEMAN.
71, Brecknock Road.
GAULE'S * MAG-ASTRO-MANCER ' (8th S. x, 277,
401 ; xi. 250, 335).— In reply to MR. JOHN RAD-
CLIFFE'S communication at the last reference, I
desire to say that I have not read Gaule s book,
and therefore I am unacquainted with its contents.
When I gave " divination whither 1 " as the literal
rendering of IIus-/AavTia, I regarded 7ri;s=7rot as
used with the sense of quorsum, and equivalent to
" To what purpose ? »— " To what end ? "— " With
what object ?" — or some similar expression.
F. C. BIRKBECK TERRY.
KERNEL OR CRENELLE (8td S. xi. 207).— The
difference in use is noticed in the * Glossary of
Architecture ' of J. H. Parker, wherein it is said :
" This term appears sometimes to signify a battlement,
but it usually means the embrasures of a battlement, or
loopholes, or other openings in the walls of a fortress,
through which arrows and other instruments might be
discharged against assailants."
This is supported by examples: "In defectibus
murorum, karnell', et graduum altse turris emend-
andis," of the Tower of London, 9 Ed. III., in
Bailey's * Hist.,' App. vol. i. p. ii. " Batellata et
Kirnellata," Contract for the Dormitory at Durham,
A.D. 1398, ' Hist. Dunelm. Scriptt. tres,' clxxxi.
ED. MARSHALL.
Your correspondent inquires if this term solely
applies to loopholes. The following quotation
from Stormonth may aid his inquiry : —
" Crenate also Cren'ated, a. (mid. L. crena, a notch ;
crenatus, notched : P. crene), notched ; in bot., having a
series of rounded marginal prominences : crenature, n.
in bot., a notch in a leaf or style : crenelate, v. (mid. L.
crenellatus, furnished with loopholes: F. crenele, em-
battled), to provide with loopholes, as in a castellated
building, through which missiles might be shot ; to fur-
nish with a parapet ; cren'elated, a., furnished with loop-
holes ; in arch., applied to a kind of indented moulding :
cren'ulate, in bot., having the edge slightly scalloped or
notched."
B. H. L.
DIALECT (8th S. xi. 208). — I think there can be
no doubt that sherl is the iterative or frequentative
form of a verb which still exists in German, viz. ,
scharren (M.H.G. scharren, from Scherre, the
instrument), which means to scratch, to paw (of a
horse) : " Der Bappe scharrt = the horse is pawing
the earth." In Dutch the iterative scharrelen is
still used. The word scherre is cognate with the
G. scheren = 'E. shear (see this is Skeat's ' Etym.
Diet.'). The same word is still extant in plough-
share. K. TEN BRUGQENCATE.
Leeuwarden, Holland.
Shirl is used in Holderness in the sense of to
throw or jerk ; see ' Glossary of Words used in
Holderness,' E.D.S., 1877. In the North Kiding
of Yorkshire shirl has the meaning of to slide,
especially upon ice, but also down a slope or
declivity. Cf. Sw. skrilla, skrela, to slip, slide.
F. C. BIRKBECK TERRY.
FLOWER OF THE WELL (8th S. x. 357, 405).—
The custom of crowning their wells and springs
observed by the ancients suggests to M. Ducis, the
enthusiastic would-be acclimatizer of Shakespeare
on French soil, a happy figure of speech.* The
anecdote is related in Cosmopolis for February,
1897 (see p. 459 of the French section), in the
article by M. J. J. Jusserand entitled * Shake-
speare en France sous 1'Ancien Regime ': —
" Jusqu'a la fin il garda sa passion pour Shakespeare.
tin ami venant le voir par une froide matinee de Janvier
le trouvait 'dans sa chambre a coucher, monte sur une
chaise, et tout occupe a disposer avec une certaine
pompe, autour de la tete de 1'Eschyle anglais, une
enorme touffe de buis qu'on venait de lui apporter.' Et
voyant la surprise de son ami, mediocre aduiirateur de
Shakespeare, et d'apres lequel Ducis avait ' souvent
embelli ' son modele, il disait : * Vous ne voyez done pas
que c'est d cumin le Saint-Guillaume, fute patronale de
mon Shakespeare ?' Descendant de sa chaise, il ajoutait:
' Mon ami, lea ancicns couronnaient de fleurs les sources
ou ils avaient puise.' — Notice sur Ducis, par Carnpenon,
en tete des (Euvres Posthumes."
Dear old French gentleman of the ancient school,
more lovable than laughable, in spite of all his
oddities ! What a picture would the above scene
make for the appreciative and able painter ! — the
old gentleman in dressing-gown and slippers in his
sick room, surrounded by books and medicine
bottles, perched on his chair in the act described
(a bonne with empty gruel basin, &c., leaving the
apartment), and his somewhat sarcastic but not
unkindly friend (who considered he had "improved "
Shakespeare), looking on, wide-eyed, and inwardly
grinning, at the strange spectacle. H. E. M.
St. Petersburg.
GEORGE LIPSCOMB (8th S. xi. 289). — A highly
respected family named Lipscomb have long
resided at East Budleigh (in which parish the great
Sir Walter Raleigh was born and bred), eleven
miles or so from Exeter. A beautiful memorial
pulpit in the venerable old church, dedicated to
All Saints, bears the following inscription : —
" This pulpit was erected to the glory of God, and in
memory of Robert Hartley Lipscomb, for twenty-seven
years Steward of the Rolle Estate, and a resident in this
parish. Born the 14th of September, 1833. Entered
* Not forgetting Chaucer (" Well of English un-
defiled ").
456
NOTES AND QUERIES. cs* s. XL JUNE 5, '9?.
into rest 18 May, 1892, A tribute of esteem from his
numerous friends."
I knew a family named Yeardley resident in
Sheffield in the late fifties. HARRY HEMS.
Fair Park, Exeter.
CAEN WOOD, HIGHGATE (8th S. xi. 384).—
Prickett was a well-meaning writer, but his little
book on Highgate, which is mainly a compilation
from Lysons, has been completely superseded by
later and more trustworthy works. The quotations
given in my note on ' Kentish Town ' (ante, p. 282)
show that he was quite wrong in saying that
" the earliest notice of it [Caen Wood] appears in
Neale's ' History of the Puritans.' " 1 may, how-
ever, take advantage of this opportunity to state
that since the publication of the note in question,
I have, through the kindness of a friend, become
possessed of a very admirable little book on ' Caen
Wood and its Associations,' which gives, in
printed form, a lecture delivered by Mr. J. H.
Lloyd, the historian of Highgate, before the High-
gate Literary and Scientific Institution on 15 March,
1892. Mr. Lloyd's brochure exhibits the results of
so much original research that it is a great satis-
faction to me to find that in essential points there
is hardly any discrepancy between my conclusions
and his own. We are in agreement on the im-
portant fact that the land granted by William
Blemund to the Priory of Holy Trinity, Aid-
gate, consisted of the property known as Caen
Wood ; while Mr. Lloyd's investigations have
satisfactorily cleared up the transactions between
the foundation in question and the Abbey of
Waltham, about which I felt some uncertainty.
The connexion of the Bill family with the estate
demands some further inquiry, though it is quite
certain that John Bill, the elder, was in possession
of Caen Wood, as he mentions it in his will. It
may have been bought by Sir James Harrington
after the sequestration of John Bill, the younger,
and repurchased by the latter at the Restoration,
or it may have been sold on the death of the elder
Bill. Again, with regard to the ownership of the
Duke of Argyll, Mr. Lloyd's account varies from
that given in the ' Wentworth Correspondence,'
but the two accounts are not irreconcilable if we
assume that the duke bought the estate from Lord
Berkeley, sold it to Dale, the upholsterer, and
bought it back — possibly on very favourable terms
— on the latter's failure. The name of the pro-
perty, on which MR. PAGE offers some remarks,
varied at different times. In the earliest docu-
ments the estate was known as Cane Lond, or
Cane Wood ; subsequently Ken Wood became the
favourite spelling, and it was not till the close of
the eighteenth century that the present designation
became fixed. Mr. Lloyd is of opinion that the
name is derived from Caen, in Normandy, from
which part of the world the earliest possessors after
the Conquest may possibly have come ; but on this
point I feel compelled to differ from him. My
own theory, which I most diffidently put forward
as mainly a piece of guess-work, is that the names
oeginning with " Ken," which are so numerous in
;he north and west of London (Kenwood, Kentish
Town, Kilburn, originally Keneburne, Kensal
Green, Kensington) point to isolated settlements
of the Iceni. But this is perhaps not the occasion
to work out a question which would require some
space for adequate discussion.
W. F. PRIPEAUX.
Kingsland, Shrewsbury.
My mother used to take me walks in Highgate
Woods so soon as ever I could walk at all, and I
remember them distinctly fifty years ago. As my
mother's only brother's estate in Yorkshire was
called Ken Wood, I, as a child, would certainly
have been struck by the coincidence had these
charming woods ever been referred to in my hear-
ing by the same name. They never were.
HARRY HEMS.
Fair Park, Exeter,
"CLAVUS GRIOPHILI" (8tb S. xi. 3$8),—Griophili
is a blunder for gariophili, and the expression
which puzzles MR. DEEDES ought to be in Du
Cange, s.v. " Gariofilum "; for this is what I find
in Maigne d'Arnis's ' Lexicon ': " Gariofilum. —
Cariophyllum ; girofle (Ada Sanctorum). Gario-
flli clavus ; clou de girofle (Apud Madox, Formu-
lare Anglicanum)." Clavus gariophili means,
therefore, a clove nail, or shortly a clove ; and
there is nothing stranger in such a form of rent
than in the kindred peppercorn, now under dis-
cussion in these columns. The reference above to
Madox seems to indicate that it was not uncommon.
As the word-combination clavus gariofili is
etymologically identical with our clove-gillyflower,
I advise MR. DEEDES to read the articles " Clove "
and " Clove-gillyflower " in the « N. E. D.,' where
he will find much useful and interesting informa-
tion. F. ADAMS.
106A, Albany Road, Camberwell.
Clavus gariophili (properly caryophylli), a clove
" nail," i. e., a clove, frequently occurs in rent-
clauses, and commonly in some corrupt spelling.
In griophili, the usual indication of an omitted a
has probably been overlooked. Examples may be
seen in the * Coucher Book of Selby,' Yorkshire
Record Society (Indices, s. v. " Clove-rent ").
J. T. F.
Bp. Hatfield's Hall, Durham.
" DADLE " (8* S. xi. 226, 313).— In a collection
of " Scottish Words and Phrases," included in
1 Sayings and Phrases,' by James Allen Muir, I
find this word given daddle, daidlie=& child's
pinafore. It does not appear to be included^ in
Wright's 'Provincial Dictionary' with a similar
meaning; but he has the verb daddle = to walk
8" 8. XI. JTOE 5, '97.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
457
unsteadily. Bamford's ' Dialect of South Lan-
cashire ; or, Tim Bobbin's Tummus and Meary,'
&c. (1850), has, in the glossary appended, daddle =
to stagger like a child. Here also is dadin = up-
holding a child, and what are called dadin-strengs,
that is, " soft, thick bands or strings, from which a
child depends when essaying to walk." Another
word is dade, explained as, " to hold a child sus-
pended under the arms, whilst learning to walk."
(Of. also Wright's 'Provincial Dictionary.') The
latter seems to be the primary term, so far as this
meaning of the word is concerned.
0. P. HALE.
DEDICATIONS TO ST. KOQUE IN ENGLAND (8tb
S. xi. 348).— Travellers in South Wales will not
forget St. Roche, as a parish on the high road
between Haverfordwest and St. David's. The two
names, Roque and Roche, are probably one and
the same au fond. E. WALFORD.
Ventnor.
" GRASS-WIDOW » (8th S. vi. 188, 258, 354, 495 ;
vii. 76 ; viii. 198 ; xi. 352).— The following entry
occurs in the parish registers of St. Ives, Cornwall,
under the year 1741 : " Married Thomas Wall and
Elizabeth Williams, a grass widow." I suppose
the expression here means a woman whose hus-
band has not been heard of during a period suffi-
cient in law to warrant the presumption that he is
dead. JOHN HOBSON MATTHEWS.
Town Hall, Cardiff.
CHALLENGE TO THE CHAMPION OF ENGLAND
(8th S. xi. 349).— Miss Strickland, in her 'Lives
of the Queens of England/ vol. vii. p. 211, gives a
similar account to the one quoted from Brady's
'Clavis Calendaria,' but does not vouch for the
truth of the story. She writes : —
" It is certain that some incident of an extraordinary
kind connected with the usual challenge of the champion
took place, for Lamberty [? Guillaume, author of ' Memoires
pour Servir a 1'Histoire du 18e Siecle,' 1724-36] says, ' when
the time arrived, &c., I heard the sound of hia gauntlet
when he flung it on the ground, but as the light in West-
minster Hall had utterly failed no person could distin-
guish what was done.' '
She also intimates that a man was "observed
to pace up and down the appointed spot in Hyde
Park." Dymock failed to meet him, " and the
champion of James II. went away unscathed for
his boldness." For the truth of the latter sentence
she refers to Lord Dartmouth's notes.
JOHN RADCLIFFE.
What occurred at the coronation seems uncer-
tain. See Miss Strickland's ' Queens of England.'
Macaulay omits all mention of the affair, but
alludes to general vague complaints against the
arrangements.
EDWARD H. MARSHALL, M.A.
DE BRUS (8th S, viii. 348, 473). — SIR H.
MAXWELL says that "De Brus was a territorial
name taken from the castle and lands of Bruis, in
Normandy"; and he adds: "The name Bruis,
Breaux, Brix, Braose, is spelt in twenty-four dif-
ferent ways." Now, it seems agreed on all hands
that the family of " Bruis " (as it is spelt in Domes-
day Book) derived its name from the castle Brix,
now in ruins, near Cherbourg, in Normandy. But
as to Braose (which is also spelt phonetically
Breos), it is the name of another family with a
different coat of arms, which family has not even
been connected by marriage with that of Bruce.
The latter had its estates in Yorkshire, also in
Annandale and Carrick, in Scotland, while the
former settled in Sussex, and afterwards in Went
and Gower, in South Wales. The name of the
Sussex family is in Domesday spelt " Braiose,"
and appears to be an earlier form of the modern
Briouze, near Falaise, in Normandy.
T. C. GILMOUK.
Ottawa, Canada.
"MASTER WILLIAM BENNETT" (8th S. xi. 309),
—William Bennett, of Fulham, was born at Clap-
cott. He was brought up by his uncle, Thomas
Teasdale, son of Thomas Teasdale, of Glympton.
He died and was buried at Fulbam on 19 Feb.,
1608 (1609 N.S.). His will is dated 29 Dec.,
1608. By this he left two messuages, with three
yard-lands and a half, to Thomas Teasdale, his
uncle, to make over the same to the master and
governors of the hospital. The estate was in
Broad Blunsden and Weddell, Wilts. His
brother, Ralph Bennett, who had a title to one-
third part of it, gave up his right to the hospital.
If Richard Bennett, of Clapcott, was son to
either Ralph or William he would be cousin to the
daughter of Thomas Teasdale. I cannot make out
the whole of the family, but this much is clear : —
Bennett.
Ralph. William, born at Clapcott,
06. 1609.
Thomas Teasdale, of Glympton.
f
Thomas
06.1610.
=16 June, 1557, Maud, nee
Stone, widow of E. Little.
Daughter=R. Bennett, of Clapcott.
This may be seen in 'The Account of the Hospital,1
by Francis Little, written in 1627, Oxf., Parker,
1873, pp. 67 sqq. The epitaphs of Thomas and
Maud Teasdale, at Glympton, Oxon, can be seen
in Wood's * Colleges and Halls,' Oxf., 1786,
pp. 636-8. An examination of the Glympton
register might supply more information.
ED. MARSHALL.
I venture the suggestion that the original state-
ment of Bennett's relationship to Thomas Teasdale
may have been in Latin, and that some translator
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[8th S. XI. JUNE 5, '97.
may have forgotten that nepos means grandson as
well as nephew. Q. V.
STAINED GLASS (8th S. xi. 427).— There is, of
course, the magnificent Crecy window in Gloucester
Cathedral. D.
BISHOPS CONSECRATED IN 1660 (8th S. xi. 268).
— There can be no reason to doubt the evidence,
as to the number of these, of the very preacher of
the consecration sermon ; in fact, there can possibly
be only one better proof, the evidence of one of
the bishops themselves, either the consecrated or
the consecrators ; and the latter Bishop Stubbs
gives ('Reg. Sac. Ang.,' p. 98), referring to the
register of Archbishop Frewen, of York, who con-
secrated the seven. The register of Archbishop
Juxon, which Perceval followed for St. Davids,
Llandaff, and Exeter, was wrong, as Bishop
Stubbs shows loc. cit. ; and Durham, Carlisle, and
Chester Perceval omitted on purpose in this place.
MR. THORNTON will find them on his p. 213. As
to Brian Duppa, he had been consecrated as long
before as 1638 (see Stubbs), and had himself con-
secrated other bishops even before these seven, on
28 October, 1660. C. F. S. WARREN, M.A.
Longford, Coventry.
William Lucy, Bishop of St. Davids ; Hugh
Lloyd, of Llandaff (at Westminster) ; and John
Gauden, of Exeter, were consecrated on 18 Novem-
ber,— Benjamin Lany, of Peterborough, at West-
minster on 20 November, — John Cosin, of Durham;
Richard Sterne, of Carlisle ; and Brian Walton, of
Chester (at Westminster), on 2 December, 1660.
William Bancroft, on his return from the Continent
at the restoration of Charles II., was appointed
chaplain to Bishop Cosin, and preached his con-
secration sermon. The title-page to the sermon
mentioned by MR. THORNTON would lead its
readers to suppose that the above seven bishops
were present at the delivery, or that it was
addressed to all of them. JOHN RADCLIFFE.
On Advent Sunday, 2 December, 1660, there
were consecrated in the Abbey William Lucy, of
St. Davids; Hugh Lloyd, of Llandaff; John
Gauden, of Exeter ; Richard Sterne, of Carlisle ;
John Cosin, of Durham ; Brian Walton, of Chester ;
Benjamin Laney, of Peterborough (see Stubbs's
'Registrum Sacrum Anglicanum,' where Mr.
Perceval's statement is contradicted, with autho-
rities). EDWARD H. MARSHALL, M.A.
Hastings.
HENRI WADDINOTON (8th S. xi. 428).— Why
Henri Waddington 1 The ambassador did not
spell his name thus. Inquiry should be made of
his brother, the distinguished Senator, who is
President of the French permanent Labour
Commission— M. Richard Waddington, 41, Rue
Francis Iw, Paris. D.
EASTER RIDING IN TYROL (8th S. xi. 386).—
May not this be the Rogation Processions which
take place on the three days before Ascension Day,
when the Litany of the Saints is sung, and prayers
offered for an abundant harvest ? In this country,
as a rule, the procession takes place and the litanies
are sung within the church walls. X., however,
mistakes when he speaks of the "consecrated
bread and wine " being carried. The Sacrament
is reserved and carried in the form of bread only.
This mode of carrying the Host is, I am informed,
tolerated, rather than approved, by authority.
The obligation of observing abstinence on the
Rogation days in England was done away with
by Pius VIII. in 1830. GEORGE ANGUS.
St. Andrews, N.B.
LORD BOWEN (8^ S. xi. 328).— If Palmer's
' Index to the Times ' is to be considered as ex-
haustively reliable, there are not any articles by
Lord Bo wen on legal reform in the Times for the
years 1892-3. On 26 Sept., 1892, p. 6, there is
a letter from him on ' Hannibal's Passage of the
Alps'; on 6 Dec., 1892, p. 13, another letter on the
'Columbus Exhibition at Madrid '; and on 16 Jan.,
1893. a report of his lecture on 'Popular Education.'
H. A. ST. J. M.
UTTERANCE OF TOM TAYLOR (8th S. xi. 407). —
The writer of an article in the Athenceum of
2 May, 1857, on the ' Art Treasures at Manchester/
says : —
" The most eclipsing, and immeasurably the finest
work ou this side of the saloon (Early Flemish and
German Art), is Mabuse's 'Adoration of the Kings,'
from Castle Howard."
The Athenceum for 1857 contains thirty -four
notices on the Manchester Exhibition — the build-
ing and its contents. Upon a very careful exami-
nation I am unable to trace the words attributed
to Tom Taylor by your correspondent. My copy
is open to his inspection.
EVERARD HOME COLEMAN.
HAND OF GLORY : THIEVES' CANDLES (8th S.
xi. 268, 397).—" Hand of glory " exists in French,
and Littre has some interesting remarks thereon.
" { Main de gloire ': nom d'un pretendu charme fait
avec une racine de mandragore preparee d'une certaine
maniere, & laquelle les charlatans attribuaient le pouvoir
de doubler 1'argent qu'on mettait aupres. ' Main de
gloire ' est une alteration de mandegloire, qui a son tour
est une alteration de mandragore. Par suite de la
defiguration du mot, ' main de gloire,' nom d'un pretendu
charme qui se fait avec la main d'un pendu, enveloppee
dans un drap mortuaire."
Larousse defines it : " Main de pendu desse'che'e,
dans laquelle on mettait une bougie, dont Pe'clat
avait la propri^te de rendre im mobiles tons ceux
qu'il frappait."
I have not the references convenient ; but I
have somewhere seen the statement that the roots
of the mandrake have a resemblance more or lees
8th S. XI. JUNE 5, 'y7.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
459
pronounced to parts of the human anatomy. If
this is true it is quite possible that Littie" is right.
The hand of a hanged man is credited with curious
powers, and information on that subject might
surely be gathered from ' N. & Q.'
JOHN E. NORCROSS.
Brooklyn, U.S.
AUTHORS OF QUOTATIONS WANTED (8th S. ix.
309, 378, 439).—
Erubuit ; salva res eat.
In the commentary on ' Adelphi,' iv. 5-9, in " Terentii
Comoedise curavit Am. Henr. Westerhovius, Hagae-
Comitum, 1726," reference is made to a fragment of
Menander, which ia said to be given in Stobaeua, « Flor.,'
tit. xxxi. The line is to be found in " Aristophania
Comoadise et Pragmenta accedunt Menandri et
Philemonis Fragmenta Parians, Didot, 1860," p. 37
of the latter part. It is given aa follows : " '0/*07rarpioi,
' Stobaei Serm.' xxxi. 5 :
"Arras epvOpiwv xprjcrros tivdt poi SOK?I."
In the former book the line runs 'EpuOptwv Traf, &c.
There are given three fragments only from the *0/io-
ROBERT PlERPOINT.
Trarptoi.
NOTES ON BOOKS, &c.
The Essays of Michael, Lord of Montaigne. Translated
by John Florio. Vols. I. and II. (Dent & Co.)
IT was a singularly happy idea to include in Messrs
Dent's delightful series of "Temple Classics" Florio's
spirited rendering of Montaigne. Veritable gems of
production are the volumes— books equally suited for
library and bower ; fittest of all to be slipped into the
pocket on a journey. There is in one of these handy
little volumes matter for a month's reading and medita-
tion, for Montaigne is a man who can not only be read
with unending delight, but can be chewed and relished
at leisure. The edition, which is to be in six volumes,
is admirably edited by Mr. A. R. Waller, who contri-
butes marginalia, glossary, and notes, besides making the
first attempt to supply a critical text. Vol. I. has a
portrait, taken expressly for this edition from the paint-
ing in oils in the Chateau of Montaigne. Vol. II. repro-
duces in photogravure the engraving of Thomas de Lau.
An excellent idea ia in process of being admirably
carried out.
English Lyric Poetry, 1500-1700. With an Introduction
by Frederick Ives Carpenter. (Blackie & Son.)
THIS latest volume of the attractive " Warwick Library "
is ushered in by an introduction by a " distinguished
Lecturer on English Literature at the University of
Chicago." This shows familiarity, not only with Tudor
literature, now a portion of the equipment of every well-
informed man, but also with the Middle English religious
lyric, which has much more recently won recogni-
tion. For years constituting almost a generation we
have waited to see whether any of our critics— mostly
self-elected — of poetry would point out the beauties of a
poem such as ' The Virgin's Complaint ' — better known,
perhaps, as ' Quia A more Langueo' — first published by
Dr. Furnivall in 1866 from the Lambeth MS. and other
sources. We are rewarded at last by the appearance of
a stanza, very far from the best, slightly modernized.
In time one may perhaps see the whole. With the
views in this introduction we have not found ourselves
always in agreement. They command, however, respect,
and deserve to be well weighed. When we come to the
contents of the volume we find that the full influence
lias been felt of the difficulty by which an undertaking
of the kind is sure to be faced. In the case of
Milton, for instance, we have the ' Hymn on the
Nativity,' 'L'Allegro,' ' II Penseroso,' and other poema,
every one of which we, of course, know by heart.
Under George Wither we find but two pagea occupied. It
is none the lesa impossible to omit an important lyric
of Milton, while to give a full idea of the beauties of
Wither would exact twenty — nay, forty— times the space
accorded him. Campion, since Mr. Bullen's restitution
of him to literature, is better represented than Ben
Jonson, Considering that sonnet?, instead of having a
volume to themselves, are included with lyrics, the task
of selection must have been sufficiently arduous. It is,
on the whole, well done. We find no fault, but welcome,
as we have welcomed its predecessors, another delightful
volume of an admirable series.
The Prose Works of Jonathan Swift, D.D. Vol. I.
(Bell & Sons).
A WELCOME addition to the invaluable "Standard Library"
of Messrs. George Bell & Sons ia a carefully edited text
of the prose works of Swift. Since the appearance of
Scott's monumental edition great advance has been made
in our knowledge of Swift, and the time has arrived when
a trustworthy and complete text may be supplied. Of
this the first volume, containing * The Tale of a Tub '
and other early works, is now given under the editor-
ship of Mr. Temple Scott, a combination of names
specially suggestive of Swift. Mr. Lecky's biographical
introduction, which is a feature in the volume, is
enlarged and rewritten from his biography contributed
to the ' Leaders of Public Opinion in Ireland.' In sub-
sequent volumes of this useful edition different portraits
will be given. The opening volume contains a reproduction
of the only authentic portrait of the Dean which shows
him as a young man. We shall watch with interest for
the appearance of subsequent volumes. Col. Francis
Grant has placed at the disposition of the editor his fine
collection of Swift tracts.
The Months: Descriptive of the Successive Beauties of
the Year. By Leigh Hunt. With Introduction by
William Andrews, F.R.H.S. (Audrewa.)
FIRST published in 1821 in a separate volume, this charac-
teristic work of Leigh Hunt's, which had previously
appeared in ' The Literary Pocket-Book, ' ia now rare and
in demand. Mr. Andrews has done well, accordingly, in
including it in his very agreeable series of books designed
for lovers of good literature. He haa prefixed to it a
pleasant biographical introduction. Its observations of
natural history strike us aa not always discriminating
and exact ; but they have a measure of the grace and
charm which Leigh Hunt's writings seldom lack.
The Old English Bible, and other Essays. By F. A. Gas-
quet, D.D. (Nimmo.)
DR. GASQUET writes clearly and forcibly, and when
touching on controversial points, as he frequently has to
do, he manifests a studied moderation and liberality,
from a laudable desire, no doubt, not to offend the sus-
ceptibilities of Anglican readers. He always, however,
candidly asserts his own Roman standpoint, as distinct
from the national and Anglican. In dealing with Eng-
lish translations of the Bible he accounts for the fact
of their non-existence before the time of Wyclif by a
suggestion that it was only then that the need of a
vernacular version began to be felt, as the higher edu-
cated classes and the clergy would find all they required
in the Vulgate or in " such French versions as existed
in England" (p, 109). But is there any evidence of
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
[8«» S. XI. JUNE 5, '97.
French versions of the Scriptures being in existence at
that date in France— much less in England 1
Dr. Gasquet calls in question the general belief that
the authority of the Roman Church has ever been exer-
cised in this country to the discouragement of reading
the Bible in English, and he pleads that it was not the
making of any translation whatever— but only of un-
authorized translations — that was absolutely forbidden
(p. 122). For the same reason he thinks Tyndale's New
Testament was only suppressed on account of its in-
fidelity, especially an omission— not a doctrinal one— in
1 Pet. ii. 18, 14. He makes the curious admission, how-
ever, that the Roman Catholic bishops hesitated to pro-
duce a translation of their own for fear lest it should
"tend further to spread the ever-increasing flood of
erroneous opinions " (p. 132) ! One might suppose that
truth would have been the best antidote for error. But
presently we learn that such a translation had already
been made ; and here comes the great paradox of the
book — a "startling" one, as the author himself con-
fesses. It is nothing less than a theory that Wyclif's
translation of the Bible is not Wyclif's after
all, but in reality a semi - official Roman Catholic
translation which in some inexplicable way has come to
be always attributed to the Reformer. To be sure, the
constant tradition has ever been to the contrary ; but
tradition, it seems, does not carry weight when it is in-
convenient. This view seems to us just one degree less
ingenious and convincing than the famous hypothesis as
to the true authorship of the poems of Homer, that they
were really written by another man of the same name.
Moreover, if this is the old Roman Catholic version, how
is it that the version which Wyclif is known to have
made has utterly perished and disappeared] And how
is it that Roman Catholic writers have patiently
acquiesced in the wrong attribution for six centuries 1
As a matter of historical interest we doubt the correct-
ness of the statement that the Roman Church has never
shown itself hostile to a vernacular Bible and never pro-
hibited the reading of it (pp. 159-161). An orthodox
Roman divine can hardly ignore such unimpeachable
authorities as Pope Clement XI. 's Bull " TJnigenitus " ;
' Regulae Indicis SS. Synodi Tridentinae Jussu Editae, De
Libris Prohibitis,' reg. iv. ; also Pope Clement VlII.'s
annotations on this rule iv. of the Index, which prohibit
" all Bibles written in any vernacular " (" vulgari quo-
cunque idiomate conscripta "). He would also do well to
consult Bellarmine, ' De Controv.,' torn. i. p. 70 (Prag.,
1721) ; Alphonsus a Castro, ' Contr. Haer.,' lib. i. cap. 13 ;
Dens, ii. 103; Wiseman, ' Cath. Doctrine of Use of Bible,'
p. 20; and Hallam, 'Lit. of Europe,' ii. 365 (eighth
edition).
The other essays in the volume are chiefly on matters
of antiquarian research, and call for little remark. We
may note, however, that Dr. Gasquet is quite at fault in
imagining that bacularius (bachelor) meant one who
wielded a stick on the backs of his juniors (p. 266), and
also in the meaning he ascribes to disciplinis (puerorum,
p. 267) of " sound whipping," in a passage where it
obviously only means instruction.
History of the Manor and Toionship of Doddington, in
the County of Lincoln, and its Successive Owners.
With Pedigrees, By R. E. G. Cole, M.A. (Lincoln,
Williamson.)
WE can heartily congratulate Mr. Cole on the completion
of his labour of luve, the history of Doddington. The
existing Hall — a fine specimen of Elizabethan domestic
architecture — has been fortunate in its chronicler, who
traces with never-failing interest to his readers the
various families (from the Pigots in the twelfth century,
through the Burghs, Saviles, Tailors, Husseys, Delavals,
Gunmans, to the Jarvises of to-day) to whom Dodding-
ton has belonged. The work has been most carefully
done, and will be of interest to many beyond the mere
genealogist. Indeed, as Mr. Cole points out, several
novelists, such as Hawley Smart and Mr. Wedmore,
have laid the scenes of their fiction at Doddington ; and
the adventures of Mr. Jorrocks when he had dine'd not
wisely but too well, and after a brief repose was dis-
covered calling for help (he had been suddenly plunged,
bed and all, into a bath !), most probably came from Dod-
dington in the lively times of the Delavals. This volume
is a model for any history of a manor and a creditable
addition to the history of the county. The illustrations,
though not doing quite justice to the height of the Hall
(the growth of the trees rendering a front view hard to
get), are satisfactory,
Bible Illustrations. (Frowde.)
WITH its customary enterprise the Oxford University
Press has brought out a new set of plates illustrative of
Biblical antiquities, in anticipation of an enlarged
edition of its 4 Helps to the Study of the Bible ' which
is forthcoming. Whereas the former series contained
only sixty-eight plates, the present one consists of a hun-
dred and twenty-four. The illustrations are printed with
remarkable clearness, and have been judiciously selected
by the best authorities at the British Museum.
MESSRS. CASSELL & Co. have reproduced in a sixpenny
volume, with descriptive notes by the Royal Librarian,
forty-five plates of Her Majesty or of events connected
with her life, domestic or private. The book is a marvel
of cheapness, and constitutes a capital souvenir.
' PRE-REFORMATION WORTHIES' is the title of a new
book of biographies, by William Cowan, announced to be
published by Mr. Elliot Stock very shortly. The volume
will, among others, contain lives of Bishop Grossetete,
Thomas a Kempis, and John Staupitz, and will have
a preface by the Bishop of Derry.
THE third and fourth volumes of ' The Memoirs of
Bertrand Barere,' the notorious Conventional, which
have been translated by Mr. De V. Payen-Payne, a
familiar name in our columns, have been sent out' to
contributors. Messrs. H. S. Nichols are issuing the
work, which is likely to inspire much interest,
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LONDON, SATURDAY, TUNE 12, 1897.
CONTENTS.— N°285.
NOTES :—' Anglorum Ferise '— Casanoviana, 461 — English
Books on Alchemy, 464— Surviving Pre-Victorian M.P.s,
465— ' The Origin of the Moss Rose '—" Callow "—Ghost-
Name— Eoyal Processions—" Non sibi, sed toti "—Praying
for the Crops— Maize— ' Puss in Boots,' 466—" Apparata,"
467.
QUERIES :— " Dick's Hatband"— H. J. H. Martin— B. Cole-
gate— "The Lady in the Lobster" — Van Cortlandt— Cap-
tive from Wreck, 467 — Crosby — The Pawne— Evelyn-
Heraldic— " To put in one's motto"— Holy Week Cere-
monial—Anglo-Saxon Brooch— Dr. Sacheverell— Portreeve
— Ogier, 468 — Italian Sonnet— Payne— Authors Wanted,
469.
REPLIES :— Palfrey Money, 469 — Hole House — Stepney
Church— Remains of Lord Byron, 470— Hanwell Church-
Value of Money — Additions to National Anthem — Arch-
bishop Rotherham, 471— Psalm Tune — Sneezing — Cam-
bridgeshire, 472— Holly Meadows — Grammarsow=Wood-
louse— Dolor— Dog Row, Mile End— Military Banners—
' History of Pickwick,' 473— The Monmouth Rebellion—
"Consensus facit matrimonium "—" Rarely "—The Best
Ghost Story, 474—' The A B C'— Coat of Arms—" Harry-
carry "—Beds in the Hall—4' Three acres and a cow," 475—
Josiah Nisbet— Carnation— "Bob "=an Insect— " Skates "
—The Queen's Head upside down — " Returns " — J. G.
Whittier, 476— Peter of Colecburch— Nonconformist Minis-
ters— Miss Fairbrother— Rule the Roost — Chinese Folk-
lore—H. Waddington, 477— Red, White, Blue— Countess
Bruce— Pope's Villa— Authors Wanted, 478.
NOTES ON BOOKS :— Baring-Gould's ' English Minstrelsie'
— Reviews and Magazines — ' Journal of the Ex-Libris
Society.'
Notices to Correspondents.
'ANGLORUM FERINE.'
The poem entitled ' Anglorum Ferise ; or, Eng-
land es Holly dayes,' by George Peele, was written
in 1595 (302 years ago) to celebrate the beginning
of the thirty-eighth year of the reign of Elizabeth.
It is not a particularly good poem, and has few
striking lines ; but it is quite remarkable to ob-
serve how many of them are perfectly applicable
to the present year. And this circumstance gives
them a certain interest.
It is a poem of considerable length, but I will
venture to quote a few of the most appropriate
passages : —
Clio, proclaim with golden trump and pen
Her happy days, England's high holidays;
O'er Europe's bounds take wing, and make thy flight
Through melting air, from where the rising sun
Gallops the zodiac in his fiery wain,
Even to the brink where Thetis in her bower
Of pumey and tralucent pebble-stones
Receives the weary bridegroom of the sea,
Beyond Grand Cair, by Nilus' slimy bank,
Over the wild and sandy Afric plaine
Even there and round about this earthly ball
Proclaim the day of England's happiness,
The days of peace, the days of quietness,
And let her gladsome birthday be the first,
Her day of birth, beginning of our bliss;
Set down the day in characters of gold,
And mark it with a stone as white as milk
And be that day England's high holiday;
And holidays and high days be they all,
High holidays, days, minutes, months, and hours,
That multiply the number of her years ;
Years that for us beget this golden age
Wherein we live in safety under her,
Wherein she reigns in honour over us :
So may she long, and ever may she so,
Untouch'd of traitorous hand or treacherous foe !
The best of all the days that we have seen
Was wherein she was crowned England's queen
[To] wear in honour England's diadem
In honour of this happy day behold
How high and low, the young and old in years,
England ! hath put a face of gladness on,
And court and country carol in her praise,
And in her honour tune a thousand lays
Behold, in honour of this holiday,
What paeans loud triumphant London sings ;
What holy tunes and sacrifice of thanks
England's metropolis as incense sends !
With whom in sympathy and sweet accord
All loyal subjects join, and hearts and bands
Lift up to Heaven's high throne, and sacrifice
Of praises and of hearty prayers send :
Thanksgiving for our blessings and the grace,
The gracious blessings on that day pour'd down
On England's head ; that day whereon this queen
Inaugur'd was and holily install'd,
Anointed of the highest King of kings
In her hereditary royal right
Successively to sit entbronized
Lo, in this triumph that true subjects make,
Envied of none but enemies of the truth,
Her enemies, that serves the living Lord
And puts in Him her confidence and trust,
Thou sacred muse of history, describe,
That all may see how well she is belov'd,
What troop of loyal English knights in arms,
Right richly mounted and appointed all,
Small number of a number numberles?,
Held justs in honour of her holiday.
WALTER W. SKEAT.
CASANOVIANA.
(Continued from p. 245.)
The concluding portions of the ' Memoirs ' bring
us to a time when Casanova, weary of wandering
over the face of Europe, set seriously to work in
order to obtain permission to return to Venice.
An irresistible desire, he tells us, to revisit his
native land overcame every other consideration.
In the darkness and solitude of a dungeon in the
fortress at Barcelona the idea occurred to him of
refuting Amelot de la Houssaye's book on Venice,*
a tissue of calumnies against the Government and
the society of that city. Casanova tells us that his
main purpose in refuting that work was to win the
approval of the Venetian Inquisitors. During the
forty-three days of his incarceration Casanova with
a pencil sketched out from memory the entire
work, leaving his quotations blank. This wonder-
ful performance does not seem to have had much
effect upon the Inquisitors, who, on 27 Jan., 1770,
* ' Histoire du Gouvernement de Venise,' par Amelot
de la Houssaye, Amsterdam, 1693, 3 vols. 8vo.
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while acknowledging its receipt, ordered the
Venetian Envoy at Turin to keep an eye on its
author and report upon his movements. In 1772
Casanova revisited Rome, and renewed his ac-
quaintance with Cardinal de Bernis, at that time
the French ambassador. Casanova found his old
friend much changed— his vices had left him, and
he dispensed the hospitalities of the embassy in
right royal style. Poor Francois de Bernis ! Kings
and populace were alike unkind, nay, even unjust
to that generous soul ! On the breaking out of the
French Revolution Bernis refused to take the oath
of allegiance to the new Constitution, and was
deprived of his embassy. Not having been of a
thrifty nature, the loss of his emoluments was a
serious matter, and he was reduced to great
poverty. In 1794 Bernis died at Rome, having
latterly lived on a small pension given to him by
the King of Spain. It is a remarkable fact that
this man, who tasted differing fortunes oft, was
admitted to the French Academy in his twenty-
ninth year, at a time when Voltaire knocked at its
doors in vain. Bernis was no favourite of Voltaire's,
who named him " Babet la Bouquetiere " — in
allusion, so it is said, to the surfeit of flowers in
his poetry. Cardinal de Bernis, though he had no
cause to be grateful to Louis XV., took that
monarch's daughter under his protection when the
storm broke over France. He now sleeps in the
Cathedral at Niaies.
From Rome Casanova journeyed to Florence
and Bologna, and subsequently arrived at Trieste.
In that city he had the luck to meet Z-iguri, a mem-
ber of the Venetian Council of Ten, who was on a
special mission.
" The marks of friendship shown to me by so distin-
guished a Venetian raised me in general esteem. I no
longer felt the humiliation of being an exile, an outcast,
but suddenly became a person of importance. The circum-
stance of my having attracted the notice of the Venetian
Envoy — himself a member of the august tribunal — had
an excellent effect. People began to say that I had only
quitted my country in order to escape from an unjust
persecution, and that the Venetian Government, whose
laws I had in no sense broken, had no longer the right to
regard me as an outlaw."
It was, in truth, the first step, and a very long
one, on the road homewards. Upon Zaguri's
departure the Procurator, Prince L. de Morosini,
arrived at Trieste. Casanova paid him assiduous
attention, won his confidence, and obtained a pro-
mise that he would exert his great influence to
obtain his pardon and recall. Fortune favoured
him in other ways. One day the Venetian Consul
at Trieste told Casanova that he had been for four
years trying to obtain from the Austrian Govern-
ment permission for the stage coach, which went
once a week from Trieste to Mestre, to make a
slight detour and pass by Udine, then the capital
of the Venetian Friuli. It was shown that this
arrangement would be advantageous to Venetian
commerce, and also to the commerce of Austria.
But, because the proposal had, in the first instance,
emanated from Venetian sources, the Syndic of
Trieste withheld his consent. Matters were at a
deadlock when Casanova took the matter in hand.
Acting upon the friendly advice of the Governor
of Trieste, with whom he was acquainted, Casa-
nova wrote a pamphlet to prove that some such
arrangement would be highly favourable to Trieste,
which was then a free port, while Udine had no
commercial status. The Governor sent the
pamphlet to the Chamber of Deputies without
divulging the name of its author, and at the same
time signified his own approval of the scheme.
The Chamber at once gave its consent, and issued
its orders accordingly. Casanova's act was officially
reported to the Venetian Government, to whom he
also wrote in humble submission, and expressed a
hope that he would be able to render that august
tribunal some further service. No notice was
taken of that letter. A month later the Venetian
Consul received an order to pay Casanova four
hundred ducats as a gratuity, together with an
intimation that any further services would be
favourably received. It so happened that at this
time four monks belonging to the Armenian con-
vent on the island of San Lazzaro at Venice had
fled from the alleged tyranny of their superior,
and were located on Austrian territory. These
monks were well born, and related to wealthy
families in Constantinople. The threat of excom-
munication had no terrors for them, and the
Austrian Government took them under its pro-
tection. It was their intention to establish a
printing press at Vienna, and they offered to pay down
100,000 florins for certain privileges which would
make them independent of ecclesiastical authority.
The Venetian State Inquisitors were most anxious
for the return of these fugitives, and offered them
complete satisfaction for any wrongs they had
suffered at the hands of the prior of their convent.
Endless devices were employed to lure them back,
or, failing that, to discredit them in the eyes of the
Austrian Government. The Venetian Consul at
Trieste, finding the task hopeless, had given it up
in despair. Casanova, zealous in any matter that
would bring him into favour with the Government
of Venice, was resolved to try his hand at this
puzzle.
On the occasion of a visit which he paid to
their establishment, he managed to make friends
with these monks, and gained their complete con-
fidence. They told him all their troubles. Although
he tried by every argument to shake their reso-
lution, and adroitly associated himself with the
Venetian Inquisitors, the task was beyond his
resources. Seeing that matters could not be satis-
factorily adjusted, after many attempts he gave it
up. He next turned his attention to the question
of impost on goods arriving from Lombardy,
S. XI. JUNE 12, '97.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
463
which, according to regulations then in force, paid
duty twice over (the most direct route crossing a
strip of Venetian territory). Count Wagensberg,
Governor of Trieste, with the double purpose of
serving his own country and of helping Casanova
to win favour, begged the latter to induce the
Venetian Government to reduce its tariff two per
cent. It was pointed out that, unless this matter
could be equitably adjusted, sooner or later
reprisals would be made by the Austrian Govern-
ment, which had only to send its exports for Lom-
bardy via Mezzola, a small Adriatic seaport in the
Duchy of Modena. Casanova threw himself into
this business with his usual intrepidity. He told
the Inquisitors that the route by Mezzola was not
only more direct, but would result in a saving of
money, the imposts in the Duchy of Modena being
far below those imposed by Venice. It was a
fiscal question of no mean importance in those
days, and Casanova warned the Venetians of the
danger they would incur by diverting the trade
route. Although he laboured in vain (nothing was
done to satisfy the Austrians), it was recognized
that Casanova had deserved well of his country.
A pecuniary reward was sent to him by the
Venetian Government, accompanied by an intima-
tion that he had been awarded an annual pension
in view of further service to the State.
" Henceforward I considered it to be my bounden
duty to serve the Republic in all things that were not
opposed to my sense of honour."
A remark, be it noted, which goes far to account for
his subsequent service as an official spy — an office
which in those days was not regarded as in any way
dishonourable, provided always that the service
rendered was personally disinterested. On 3 Sept.,
1774, Casanova obtained the pardon for which he
had prayed so long. The decree, which had been
forwarded to the Venetian Consul at Trieste, was
signed by three Inquisitors, Francesco Grimani,
Francesco Sagredo, and Paulo Bembo. When it
was handed to Casanova he read it twice, kissed it,
and, after a short pause, he burst into a flood of
tears. This incident is attested by a letter from
the Consul which is preserved among the Venetian
archives. In the middle of September Casanova
presented himself before the Inquisitors, and
received his appointment as a State spy, or, in
other words, " Secret Agent of the Tribunal of
Inquisitors."
It was degrading employment for a man whose
character was frank and fearless. But there seems
to have been no chance of any other office under
Government — in short, no other means of sub-
sistence. That Casanova cast a certain dignity
over a service which in his soul he loathed cannot
be doubted. Venetian archives attest it, and the
side lights thrown upon his manly character by
distinguished contemporaries seals that conviction
in my heart. Casanova was at this time invited
by the Landgrave of Hesse-Cassel to be his repre-
sentative at Venice ; but the Inquisitors threw cold
water on the proposal, and Casanova was unable
to avail himself of an offer which would have given
him honourable employment, and which would
have released him from an ungrateful service to
the State. The following letter, written by Casa-
nova on 18 Dec., 1774, was addressed to the
Secretary of the Inquisitors : —
" My present circumstances compel me to seek some
employment whereby I may honestly and peacefully
pass the remainder of my life in the city of my heart—-
the city where I was born ! Although an opportunity
presents itself, I dare not accept it, nor will I dispose of
my services without the consent of the supreme tribunal
of whose clemency I have recently received eo remark-
able a proof. His Serene Highness the Landgrave of
Hesse-Cassel wishes to have a special agent at Venice.
A distinguished gentleman, and a foreigner, who has had
the goodness to befriend me on several occasion-, tells
me that I may be offered this small post, to which a
modest salary is attached. I have no money, and have
no reason to expect to earn a competency, because of my
feeble capacity, and the approach of old age. Although
there are several such agents at present in Venice in the
service of other German princes, and although, in the
event of my non-acceptance, the Landgrave may give
this appointment to some one else, I dare not take any
step without first obtaining the approval of their Excel-
lencies, because the most glorious title to which I aspire
is to be the most obedient servant of the sovereign of
my native land."*
The only answer to that appeal was an intima-
tion, through an official channel, that their Excel-
lencies would neither give nor withhold their consent
to any such arrangement ; consequently the matter
dropped. Thus, failing in an endeavour to earn a
livelihood which would have made him indepen-
dent of the dread tribunal whose method of govern-
ing was dark and treacheous, Casanova was
compelled to fall back upon an employment which
at least gave him the protection ha needed. In
the performance of his duties he contrived to
maintain a certain dignity which raised him above
the ordinary status of a common spy. His reports
have been preserved in the State archives, and it is
evident that he took too high a tone for his em*
ployers, for in 1780 they ceased to pay him a
regular salary. Released from a service which
must have been repugnant to his chivalrous nature,
Casanova fell back upon literature for a livelihood,
and at this time published his translation of Homer
in four volumes, and a volume entitled * Di Ane-
dotti Viniziani Militari e Amorosi del Secolo
Decimoquarto,' besides several satirical and other
pamphiets in verse and prose. An unfortunate
quarrel with the patrician Gian Carlo Grimani,
over some question which was being debated at
Grimani's casino, brought Casanova into trouble.
Believing himself to have been insulted, Casanova
wrote a satire which reflected upon the character
•Venetian Archives, Papers 'Inquisitor! di Stato,'
A.B. 1774,
464
NOTES AND QUERIES.
s. XL JUM 12,
of Grimani. This work, entitled ' Ne Amori DO
Donne Ovvero la Stalla d'Augia Kipulita/ so
incensed the patricians of Venice against its author
that Casanova, in fear of arrest, quitted his country
for ever.
When, three years later, he wrote f Histoire de
ma fuite des Prisons de la Republique de Venise,
qu'on appelle les Plombs,' Casanova partially
lifts the veil, and shows us the state of his feelings
at that time. To those only who possess that
rare volume can the following passage be known :
"Whether from love of my native land, or from
personal pride, I know not ; but I certainly owed to my
return to Venice the happiest moments of my life,
was not required to atone for any offence against the
State, and every one knew it. In the nature of my
pardon lay my best apology. It would not have been
possible for the great sovereign magistrate to have done
more to declare my innocence, and to show all Europe
that I had deserved its indulgence. On my return
every one expected that I would have been given some
employment suitable to my capacity, and indispensable
to ray subsistence. But, in my opinion, every one was
mistaken. If the Government had given me a post it
would have had the appearance of a reward, which would
have been impolitic. It was assumed that I possessed
sufficient talent to get on unaided, a supposition which
flattered me. But during the nine years of my residence
at Venice every endeavour that I made to earn a suffi-
ciency proved vain. I then began seriously to consider
my position. One of two things was certain : either I
was unsuited to Venice, or else Venice was unsuited to
me. In this dilemma a quarrel, which promised to have
serious consequences, put an end to my doubts, and I
resolved to quit my country, much as one would vacate
a pleasant house because of a troublesome neighbour of
whom one cannot get rid. I am now at Dux, where, in
order to be on good terms with my neighbours, it is only
necessary to abstain from arguments, and nothing could
be easier than that."
One evening in 1784, a few months after leaving
Venice, while dining with Mocenigo, the Venetian
ambassador at Paris, Casanova had the good for-
tune to make the acquaintance of Count Waldstein,
a nephew of the Prince de Ligne. Waldstein was
so much taken by Casanova's wit and conversation
that he there and then offered him the post of
librarian at his chateau at Dux, an appointment
which the wanderer accepted, and held to the last
hour of his life. RICHARD EDGCUMBE.
33, Tedworth Square, Chelsea.
(To be continued.}
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(Concluded from p. 364.)
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Chemical Element. An episode in the quest of the Un-
changing. London, 1894, 8vo. B.M., 8906, cc. 28.
Mystagogus, C. Mercury's Caducean Rod ; or, the
great and wonderful office of the Universal Mercury, or
God's Viceregent, displayed To which is added a
general Epistle, discovering the mysterious Fire of Pon-
tanus Second edition, 2 parts. London, 1704, 8vo.
B.M., 1148, a. 1.
Mystagogus, C. Trifertes Sagani, or Immortal Dis-
solvent, being a brief discourse of the matter and
manner of preparing the Liquor Alkahest of Helmont,
the Great Hilech of Paracelsus, the Sal Circulatum
Minus of Ludovicus de Count : or, our Fiery Spirit of
the Four Elements. Together with its use in preparing
magisteries, arcana, quintessences, and other secret
medicines of the adepts, from the animal, vegetable, or
mineral kingdom. London, 1705, 8vo. B.M., 1033, d,
19/2.
N., S. Aula Lucia ; or, the House of Light : a dis-
course written in the year 1651. By S. N., a modem
speculator [i. e., Thomas Vaughan]. London, 1652, 8vo.
B.M., 1033, d. 14.
P., H. Five Treatises of the Philosopher's Stone. Two
of Alphonso, King of Portugall one of J. Sawtree
another by F. Randorflf Also a treatise of the
names of the Philosopher's Stone by \V. Gratacolle
To which is added, the Smaragdine Table. London,
1652 [1651], 4to. B.M., E. 654/5.
Philalethes, E.* [Thomas Vaughan]. Secrets reveal'd ;
or, an open entrance to the shut Palace of the King :
containing the greatest treasure in Chymistry never yet
so plainly discovered Published by W. C. [i.e.,
William Cooper]. London, 1669, 8vo. B.M., 8905, aa. 19.
Philalethes, E. Ripley reviv'd; or, an exposition
upon Sir G. Ripley's Hermetics. Poetical Works con-
taining discoveries of the most hidden secrets of the
ancient philosophers (Experiments for the prepara-
tion of the sophick Mercury for the Philosopher's
Stone). [Edited by W. Cooper.] 5 parts. London,
1678, 8vo. B.M., 1034, f. 14.
Philalethes, E. Three Tracts of the Great Medicine
of Philosophers for humane and metalline bodies.
I. Intituled, ArsMetallorumMetamorphoseos. II. Brevis
Manuductio ad Rubinum Cselestem. III. FonsChymicse
Philosophiae Translated into English by a Lover
of Art. 3 parts. London, 1694, 8vo. B.M., 1033, g. 19.
Philalethes, E. The Marrow of Alchemy, being an
experimental treatise discovering the mystery of the
Philosopher's Elixer. 2 parts. London, 1654-55, 8vo.
B.M., 1077, d. 54.
Polemann, J. Novum Lumen Medicum : wherein the
doctrine of Helmont concerning the great
mystery of the Philosopher's Sulphur is fundamentally
cleared Englished by F. H., a German. London,
1662, 12mo. B.M., 1035, b. 36.
Ripley, G. The Compound of Alchymy; or, the
ancient hidden art of Archemse : containing the
means to make the Philosopher's Stone first written
by G. Ripley. Whereunto is adjoyned his Epistle
to the King and other his workes never before pub-
lished : with certaine briefe additions set foorth by
R. Rabbards. London, 1591, 4to. B.M., C. 39, d. 26. '
Ruland, M. A Lexicon of Alchemy; or, Alchemical
Dictionary 1612. [London, 1892], 4to. B.M., C. 54,
o.ll.
Salmon, W. Medicina Practica : or, the Practical
Physician To which is added, the Chymical Works
of Hermes Trismegistus, Kalid, King of Persia ; Geber,
King of Arabia; Artefius Longaevus, the Jew; Roger
Bacon; N. Flammel's Hieroglyphicks ; G. Ripley's
Marrow of Alchymie, and an account of their lives.
London, 1707, 8vo. B.M., 774, f. 9.
Sendivogiue, M. A New Light of Alchymie To
which is added a Treatise of Sulphur Also Nine
Books of the Nature of Things written by Paracelsus
Also a Chymicall Dictionary Translated by J. F.
[J. French]. London, 1650, 4to. Bodleian Library.
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Suchten, A. v. A. v. Suchten of the Secrets of Anti-
mony : in two treatises. Translated out of High-Dutch
by Dr. C To which is added B. Valentine's Salt of
Antimony with its uae. London, 1670, 12mo. B.M.,
1033, f. 35.
Thor, G. Cheiragogia Heliana : a manudation to the
Philosopher's Magical Gold To which is added
Zoroaster's Cave ; or, an intellectual echo, &c. Together
with the famous Catholic Epistle of John Pontanus upon
the Minerall Fire. London, 1659, 8vo. B.M., 1033, d.
9/6.
Valentinus, B. Of Natural and Supernatural Things.
Al?o, of the first tincture, root, and spirit of Metals and
Minerals Whereunto is added R. Bacon, Of the
Medicine or Tincture of Antimony : J. P. Holland,
his work of Saturn, and A. v. Suchten, of the Secrets of
Antimony. Translated by D. Cable. London, 1671,
16mo. B.M., 8905, a. 9 (Imperfect).
Valentinus, B. B. Valentinus his Triumphant Chariot
of Antimony, with annotations of T. Kirkringius
With the true book of Synesius, a Greek Abbot,
concerning the Philosopher's Stone. London, 1678, 8vo.
B.M.,1033, a. 4.
Valentinus, B. The last Will and Testament of B. V.
to which is added two treatises, the first declaring
his manual operations : the second shewing things
natural and supernatural. 8 parts. London, 1671, 8vo.
B.M., 46, b. 6.
Valentiuup, B. B. V., his last Will and Testament
wherein he declareth the wayes he wrought to
obtain the Philosopher's Stone, &c. 9 parts. London,
1657, 8vo. B.M., 8905, aa. 12.
Valentinus, B. The Triumphant Chariot of Antimony,
being a conscientious discovery of the excellencies
included in that mineral Englished by J. H. [J.
Howell'i]. London, 1661, 8vo. B.M., E. 2267/2.
Valentinus, B. The Triumphal Chariot of Antimony
With the commentary of T. Kerckringius, being the
Latin version published at Amsterdam in 1685 trans-
lated into English, with a biographical preface [by A. E.
Waite]. London, 1893, 8vo. B.M., 8905, de. 36.
Waite, A. E. Lives of Alchemystical Philosophers,
based on materials collected in 1815, and supplemented
by recent researches To which is added, a biblio-
graphy of Alchemy and Hermetic Philosophy. London,
1888, 8vo. B.M., 10604, g. 12.
Weidenfeld, J. S. Four Books concerning the
secrets of the Adepts; or, of the use of Lully's Spirit of
Wine. A practical work collected out of the ancient
as well as modern fathers of adept philosophy. London,
1685, 4to. B.M., 1033, i. 18/1.
Willis, T. The Search of Causes Containing a Theo-
physicall investigation of the possibilitie of transmutatorie
Alchetnie. London, 1616, 8vo. B.M.. 1036, a 13/2.
Arcanum; or, the Grand Secret of Hermetic Philo-
sophy wherein the secrets of nature and art concerning
the Philosopher's Composition, are methodically
manifested. The work of a concealed author [Joannes
1'Espagnet?]. Third edition. [London? 1660 '<] 12mo.
|B.M., 1033, g. 30.
Collectanaea Chymica : a collection of ten several
:reatises in Chymistry, concerning the liquor Alkahest,
;he Mercury of Philosophers, and other curiosities worthy
I -he perusal. Written by Eir. Philaletha, Anonymos,
I. B. van Helmont, &c. 10 parts. London, 1684, Svo.
3.M., 1033, d. 15/4.
A Guide to Alchymy ; or, the great secret laid open
for making the Philosopher's Stone By a Philo-
opher. London, 1770, 12mo. Manchester Public
library.
The Hermetic Museum, restored and enlarged
low first done into English from the Latin original
published at Frankfort 1678. 2 vols. London, 1893,
Svo. B.M., 8905, ee. 20.
The Hermetical Triumph; or, the victorious Philo-
sophical Stone. A treatise concerning the Hermetical
Magistery. Translated from the French [of A. T. Limrjon
de Saint Didier ?]. To which is added, The Ancient War
of the Knights. 2 parts. London, 1723, Svo. B.M.,
1033. g. 37.
Ditto. London, 1740, Svo. B.M., 8632, aaa. 32.
The Lives of the Alchemystical Philosophers, with a
critical catalogue of books in occult chemistry and a
selection of the most celebrated treatises on the theory
and practice of the Hermetic Art. [By Francis Barrett i]
London, 1815, Svo. B.M., 718, h. 30.
A Revelation of the Secret Spirit, declaring the most
concealed secret of Alchymie. Written first in Latin
by an unknown author, but explained in Italian by John
Baptista Lambye, Venetian Lately translated into
English by R. N. E., Gentleman [Robert Napier?].
London, 1623, 16mo. B.M., 8610, aa. 11.
A Suggestive Inquiry into the Hermetic Mystery,
with a dissertation on the more celebrated of the
alchemical philosophers. London, 1850, Svo. B.M.,
1142, i. 8.
ROBT. ALEC. PEDDIE,
9, Weltje Road, Hammersmith, W.
SURVIVING PRE-VICTORIAN MEMBERS OF THE
HOUSE OF COMMONS. — Although there is some
difficulty in preparing an exact list, the following
would seem to be the only survivors of the House
of Commons as chosen in reigns previous to that
of Queen Victoria, with the date of their first
election to Westminster : The Earl of Mansfield
(Viscount Stormont), Aldborough, 1830 ; the Duke
of Northumberland (Lord Lovaine), Beeralston,
183L ; the Earl of Mexborough (Viscount Polling-
ton), Gatton, 1831 ; the Earl of Tanker ville (Lord
Ossulston), North Northumberland, 1832 ; William
Ewart Gladstone, Newark, 1832 ; William Pinney,
Lyme Regis, 1832 ; (Sir) Thomas Dyke Acland,
West Somerset, 1835 ; Charles Pelham Villiers,
Wolverhampton, 1835 ; the Earl Fitzwilliam
(Viscount Milton), Malton, by-election, January,
1837.
Concerning John Temple Leader, who was re-
turned for Bridgwater in 1835, there is a doubt
as to his survival, it being reported that he died
recently in Italy (see ' N. & Q.,' 8th S. x. 386) ;
but since that the Daily News has stated that he
still lives at Florence. It is not, perhaps, the
least interesting circumstance in connexion with
this mystery concerning Mr. Leader, that over fifty
years ago, when he was member for Westminster,
he was for a time a stock subject for satire by
Punch as to his absence from England. On 8 Feb.,
1845, it inserted a burlesque advertisement, under
the title * The Absent One,' which read as follows :
" Mr. John Leader, you are earnestly implored, if you
will not come home to your misrepresented constituents,
at all events to send back the representation of the City
you have taken away with you. Please address to the
Steward of tbe Chiltern Hundreds."
A week later it published the following :—
466
NOTES AND QUERIES.
s. xi. JTOE i V9T.
" A Notice of Motion. — The following notice, written
on a little piece of paper, after the fashion of the memo-
randa left on the doors of barristers' chambers, baa been
suspended to the knocker of Mr. Leader's residence in
Lowndes Square : ' Gone to Cannes. Won't be back
till next Election.' '
While in the concluding number of the same year
Punch chaffed the absentee once more in some
verses ' Leader and Leander,' because he con-
tinued to stay with Lord Brougham at Hyeres.
ALFRED F. ROBBINS.
1 THE ORIGIN OP THE Moss KOSE.' (See 8th S.
xi. 400.)— Observing a reference to * The Legend
of the Moss Rose,' permit me to say the word
" legend " is an error. The original is * The Origin
of the Moss Rose.' The lines are a translation
from Krummacher ; the translation was made
between the years 1810 and 1812 by Miss Anne
Finch, a granddaughter of Dr. Priestley and my
OOUSin. SWANN HURRELL.
St, Leonards.
"CALLOW." — This Anglo-Irish word for a
marshy or low-lying meadow by the banks of a
river has nothing to do with callow, bald, bare,
though it is incorrectly ranged under it in the
1 New English Dictionary.1 It is the Irish cala or
caladh, a marshy meadow (see Joyce, ' Irish Names
of Places,' First Series, p. 448), which also means
a landing-place for boats. It is probably the same
word as Ir. caladh, hard, which is akin to our
" hard," Goth, hardus ( W. Stokes, ' Irish Glosses,'
p. 64) ; exactly like Prov. Eng. hard, a landing-
place, i. e., terra firma as contrasted with soft mud
or sand. The callow is, therefore, the comparatively
firm ground reclaimed from the river, and no longer
under water. A. SMYTHE PALMER, D.D.
ANOTHER GHOST-NAME. — Near Flamborough
Head there is a small cove, the correct name of which
is Selwick Bay. The local dialectic pronunciation,
together with the layers of flints in the chalk cliff,
have deluded a learned Government surveyor into
inventing the ghost-name of Silex Bay, which duly
appears in the Ordnance map. ISAAC TAYLOR.
&OYAL PROCESSIONS.— The following extract
from a * Concise Biographical Memoir of his
late Majesty George III.,' by E. Pierce, Esq.,
1820, describing the coronation of that monarch,
appears to show that public folly with regard to
royal processions, like history, repeats itself : —
"On the succeeding 22 September, 1761, so much
curiosity pervaded all ranks of society, that the front
Beats in the gallery of Westminster Abbey were let at ten
guineas each; and those in commodious houses along
the procession at no less prices. The prices at the
ordinary houses were from five guineas to one guinea, so
that one little house in Coronation Row after the scaf-
folding was paid for cleared 700/., and some large houses
upwards of 1,00(M. In the coronation theatres, as they
were called, being a sort of large booth, capable of con-
taining from 1,200 to 1,500 seats, the prices were beyond
all precedent. The ground rent to build the scaffolding
on was proportionably extravagant. That in the Broad
Sanctuary let at three guineas and a half per foot, and
that within the rails enclosing the Abbey at five
guineas. As an instance of the eagerness to witness this
grand spectacle, a gentleman was prevailed on to take a
room for his lady at the rate of one hundred and forty
guineas ; but the appointment of the solemnity of the
coronation falling, unhappily, exactly at the time of her
expected accouchement, she had further prevailed on
her husband to let a skilful man-midwife, nurse, &c.,
attend her, and to hire an additional withdrawing room,
lest the hurry of the day should accelerate an event
which would render it impossible to remove her." — P. 6.
JOHN HEBB.
Willesden Green, N.W.
" NON SIBI, SED TOTI."— A good deal of ridicule
has been directed towards a certain suburban
vestry for choosing these words as a motto of its
parish. My contention is that, although not im-
maculate, the Latin is passable, and certainly as
correct as the mottoes beneath the coats of arms of
some private families. I should be pleased if any
readers of * N. & Q.' confirmed my view.
CECIL CLARKE.
Authors' Club, S.W.
PRATING FOR THE CROPS. — The following para-
graph appeared in the Daily Mail of 24 May : —
"A curious old custom was observed at Hitchin
yesterday. The clergy in full canonicals, attended by
the choir and preceded by a cross-bearer, started in
procession from the church and made a tour of the corn-
fields and farmyards, where prayers were offered up for
a blessing on the young crops. Many parishioners were
present, and joined heartily in the services. This ancient
rural observance seems likely to be revived permanently
in Hertfordshire."
EVERARD HOME COLEMAN.
71, Brecknock Road.
ERROR CONCERNING MAIZE. — In the late Dr.
Faber's remarkable poem named ' The Dream of
King Croesus ' the following passage occurs : —
The thick fleets of rapid ortolans
Which swam along the surface of the maize.
' The Styrian Lake, and other Poems,' 1842, p. 285.
We may, I think, take it for granted that maize
was not known in the Old World for many genera-
tions after the death of Cro3sus. Victor Hehn, in
his ' Wanderings of Plants and Animals,' trans-
lated by J. S. Stallybrass, says : —
" America in its turn made a still more important
present to the Old World in its maize, which now feeds
a large part of South Europe and the Levant, and has
penetrated to China and Japan and to the negro tribes
in the very heart of Africa, who have never seen a
European."— P. 384.
EDWARD PEACOCK.
' Puss m BOOTS.' — In an article on * Novels of
the Italian Renaissance,' in the Edinburgh Review
of April, I read : ' ' Lastly, born of Straparola's
own brain — so far criticism has traced no
other original— is Puss in (or rather here out of)
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467
Boots." This is wrong. 'Puss in Boots1 is a
Swedish folk-story, and can be found in Thorpe's
1 Yule-Tide Stories.' It is not easy to discover the
age of a folk-story ; but certainly the Swedish
story was not copied from Straparola.
E. YARDLET.
" APPARATA."— In the Daily Mail for 3 April
there is a short article entitled * Tapping the
Telegraph/ which is mainly made up of what pur-
ports to be an exact reproduction, within inverted
commas, of remarks made by Mr. W. H. Preece,
C.B., F.R.S., the engineer- in-chief of the Postal
Telegraphs. If the interview sets our fears at rest
as to the danger discussed, it also puts in imminent
peril the reputation of the interviewed as a speaker
of correct English :—
" Only a steamer properly equipped with grappling
apparata adapted for cable work could cut and pull
up a submarine line far enough from land not to be
visible."
Later on Mr. Preece is again made responsible
for " instruments and apparata." J. P. OWEN.
48, Comeragh Road, W.
We must request correspondents desiring information
on family matters of only private interest to affix their
names and addresses to their queries, in order that the
answers may be addressed to them direct.
" DICK'S HATBAND."- -The phrases, " As tight,"
" As queer," and " As fine as Dick's hatband,"
are generally explained in modern dictionaries, &c.,
as referring to the dignity of Lord Protector of
England conferred upon Richard Cromwell. The
originator of the phrase is assumed to have sup-
posed that Cromwell's authority was typified by
some sort of fillet or crown. But no evidence of
this origin is offered, and it may easily be one of
the noxious guesses with which the soil of English
etymology is cumbered. I shall be glad to have
any instances of the use of these phrases, and any
reliable information as to their origin.
J. A. H. MURRAY.
Oxford.
H. J. H. MARTIN. — A well-painted picture, at
Apsley House, of an Indian chief, has the follow-
ing on the back : " H. J. H. Martin, 38, London
Street, Fitzroy Square. A study." Will any of
your readers kindly give me information con-
cerning this artist 1 ' EVELYN WELLINGTON.
Apsley House.
RICHARD COLEGATE. — I should like to ask
your assistance to obtain, if possible, any informa-
tion concerning the birthplace of Richard Cole-
gate, who was born in Kent in March, 1675, and
who came to America about 1695, and died there
in 1722, possessed of a large estate both in money
and land, and having obtained the rank of
colonel. He was also a member of the Assembly.
The seal upon his will is the cognizance of a
baron. I have never been able to obtain any
information as to his birthplace in England or
the history of his family, though it is known
that he brought his fortune from the old country.
In a letter dated 15 December, 1866, Henry
Delaine, Secretary of the Fraternity of Genea-
logists, 51, King Street, Regent Street, London,
writes as follows: "I beg to inform you that
the ancient pedigree of your family has recently
been discovered in our researches, and should
you desire a copy and will remit fee it will be
forwarded within a month of receipt." This
letter was neglected, and when it was finally
answered the Fraternity of Genealogists was ex-
tinct, nor have I ever been able to discover any
traces of this fraternity or of its books, records, or
abiding-place. The Colegate family are supposed
to have come originally from Norwich. There was
a church there called St. George's, Colegate, de-
stroyed and rebuilt. There was a Colegate Ward
and a Colegate Street, and a house called Cole-
gate House, and somewhere in that section a Cole-
gate hamlet ; but Richard Colegate was born in the
county of Kent. In November, 1697, he was the
American agent for Michael Yokely and John
Petti t, of London. Any information you can dis-
cover concerning his birthplace, his family, or the
record spoken of by that fraternity will be very
gladly received. M. M. S.
Cincinnati.
"THE LADY IN THE LOBSTER." — Whereabouts
in the head of the lobster is the part termed " the
lady in the lobster w? C. H. SP. P.
VAN CORTLANDT. — The arms of this family (who,
coming from Holland, and descended from the
Dukes of Courland, were settled in New York
during the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries
and, I believe, are still in existence there) are
thus described in French heraldry in Rietstap's
'Foreign Armorial': " D'arg. a quatre ailes de
moulin de sable, formant un saut. mouv. d'un carre
de sable, vid6 du champ ; les dites ailes cant de
quatre 4toiles de gu. et une cinquifcme e"toile
pareille, po?4 en abtme dans le vide du carre"." I
shall be obliged if any correspondent can translate
me this into English heraldry.
W. D. HOYLE.
13, Gray's Inn Square, W.C.
CAPTIVE FROM WRECK.— In reading the life
of the late Rev. F. W. Robertson, of Brighton, ]
came across a paragraph, copied, as I suppose, out
of a newspaper some forty-six years ago, about a
young lady who was sent to England from Aus-
tralia to be educated. On the return voyage the
ship was wrecked, and she was tfce only survivor,
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being saved by the natives, who carried her into
the bush ; but she was seen once or twice, always
accompanied by her captors. Can any one inform
me if anything further was ever heard of this un-
fortunate lady, or who she was ?
G. A. BROWNE.
Montcalm, Dagmar Road, Camberwell.
CROSBY FAMILY. — I wish to obtain some par-
ticulars of the family of Frediswid Crosby, said to
have been a native of Lancashire, wife the Right
Rev. John Ryder, Bishop of Killaloe, who died in
1632. He was some time rector of Win wick in
Lancashire. WM. JACKSON PIGOTT.
THE PAWNE. — At p. 192 of an excellent little
' Life of Sir Thomas Gresham,' published by
Charles Knight in 1845, is the following quota-
tion from Stow — with no exact reference — respect-
ing Queen Elizabeth's visit to Gresham's new
Exchange on 23 January, 1571 : —
" After dinner, her Majesty, returning through Corn-
hill, entered the Burse on the south side ; and after that
she had viewed every part thereof above the ground,
especially the Pawne (the upper part of the building,
wherein were the hundred shops or stalls), which was
richly furnished with all sorts of the finest wares in the
city, she caused the same Burae, by an herald and
trumpet, to be proclaimed the Eoyal Exchange, and so
to be called from thenceforth, and not otherwise."
How did the name " Pawne " come to be applied
as above ? JAMES HOOPER.
Norwich.
THE PRONUNCIATION OF EVELYN.— The men-
tion of Pepys (p. 187) suggests the name of the
other great diarist of the seventeenth century. I
have heard that the representatives of the Evelyn
family make the Eve long, treating the word as a
dissyllable. Mr. Browning made it a trisyllable
in ' Beautiful Evelyn Hope.' That, however, was
a Christian name. How should John Evelyn be
cajjed ? RICHARD H. THORNTON.
Portland, Oregon.
HERALDIC.— In Stodart's * Scottish Arms 'are
given the arms of Tyrie of Lunan : Sable, a
chevron between three plates, each charged with
a cross between the capital letters J and S, also
sable. Is the charge on the plates a cross only,
or is it the sacred IHS ? Is the latter ever used
as a charge in heraldry ? W. B. TYRIE.
Cork.
'To PUT IN ONE'S MOTTO. "— Hotten, Farmer
and Henley, Potter and Grose do not give this
phrase in their publications dealing with slang.
To put in one's motto " is to enter rashly into a
conversation or to summarize circumstances senten-
tiously. Is it possible that the phrase is of Italian
origin? San Matteo xvii. 4 reads, "E Pietro
fece motto a Gesu, e gli disse." The resemblance
fece motto " to " put in his motto "is very
close, and the temperament of St. Peter, the rash
disciple, is just that from which is expected the
conduct indicated. The occasion was remarkable
enough to impress James and John with over-
whelming solemnity; but it was not so with Peter.
He put in his motto. Perhaps, however, the
English and Italian have a common origin in
some earlier tongue of the Indo-European family.
ARTHUR MAYALL,
ANCIENT ENGLISH HOLY WEEK CEREMONIAL. —
Information bearing on this subject and Lent, i. e.,
blessing of palms, &c. , Tenebrce, Maundy Thurs-
day rites, creeping to the Cross, Easter Sepulchre,
Paschal, and Easter Eve rite?, is requested : in-
formation from parish or churchwardens' accounts,
wills, and such documents, whereby an accurate
knowledge of the actual use in medieeval parish
churches may be arrived at, as against what was
ordered. HENRY FEASEY.
11, Festing Road, Putney, S.W.
ANGLO-SAXON BROOCH. — Is anything known
of the present resting-place of a most interesting
Saxon fibula of unique pattern exhibited to the
Society of Antiquaries on 17 November, 1870, by
Sir John Evans on behalf of Mr. Byles, of Box-
moor Station 1 It was found at Barrington, near
Cambridge, and certainly ought to be preserved
in some such public repository as the Fitzwilliam
Museum. T. CANN HUGHES, M.A.
Lancaster.
DR. SACHEVERELL. — The article on Henry
Sacheverell in the recently published volume of
the *D. N. B.' (1. 80-83), contains the state-
ment that he " was born in or about 1674, for he
was fifteen when he matriculated at Oxford in
1689." This can hardly be regarded as adequate
in these days of accurate information. Reference
to the register of baptisms of St. Peter's Church,
Marlborough, under the year 1673-4 would have
brought to light the following entry : —
"Henry the sonne of Mr. Joshua Sacheverell Rector
of this parish, by Susanna his wife, was borne Feb. 8th,
and baptized the 17th day of the same month."
C. W. H.
PORTREEVE. — In how many English towns is
there retained the office of Portreeve ; by whom is
the Portreeve appointed ; and what, if any, are his
legal powers ? At least two towns in Devonshire
— Tavistock and Holsworthy — possess a Portreeve
DUNHEVED.
OGIER OR LOGIER. — The well-known Norman
name of Ogier, always so spelt here, is in some
parishes in Guernsey pronounced as if written
Logier. Similarly the name Andr£ or Andry
sometimes appears as Landry. In the ancient
dialect of this part of Normandy the word for a
carrel or pane of glass is osanne, which in modern
French becomes losanye. There was, I suppose, an
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469
intermediary form losanne, from which oomes the
Scottish word lozen (vide ' Redgauntlet '). Can
any one tell me of other words in English or French
in which I is intruded before an initial vowel ?
Louver, from ouwir, is the only one that occurs to
me.
Prof. Skeat gives losa, a square tile, as the
probable derivation of losange. If this be correct,
the Norman osanne has lost its first letter. The
question is, Which is the older word, osanne or
losanne ? Losengia occurs, says Ducange, in 1363.
The cases of Logier, Landry, and louver seem to
point to an older word beginning with a vowel.
G, E. LEE, F.S.A.
Guernsey,
ITALIAN SONNET. — Where can I find the original
in Italian of the sonnet by Fra Guittone d'Arrezzo,
beginning : —
Donna del Cielo Madre gloriosa
Del buon Jesu cui morte vittoriosal
There is a translation in Rossetti's ' Early Italian
Poets.' GRACE LEES.
PAYNE, PAGANUS, PAGANELLI, PAGANINI. —
I feel, I trust reasonably, inclined to differ from
some accepted authorities on surnames with regard
to the origin of this widely spread name, which
has been known both as a Christian and a surname
in France, Italy, and England for about nine
centuries, if not in the former of these countries
for a longer period. For instance, Lower ('English
Surnames,' i. 57) writes, it was " probably given to
some Paynim or Mussulman who embraced the
Christian faith during the Crusades." I am quite
aware that numbers of knights and barons who
took part in the Crusades can be shown to have
borne the name. In Domesday, however, we have
" Eadmundus films Pagani," temp. Edw. Confess.
Again, I find, 1062, " Gautier, Vicomte de Meulan,
surnomm^ * Paganus '=* Seigneur d'un Pagus.'"
Also "Le Pagus Madriacus," giving title to the
Comte de Madrie, " un pays borne* par la Mandre."
In 1099 the Cardinal of S. Niccolo in Carcere bore
the name of Paganus. It became a common name
in the famous family of Delia Torre, at Milan, and
we find Paganino Doria and Paganino Visconti.
Ayain, the first master of the Templars (1118-1136)
was Hugh Payne, or Paganus, belonging to the
great house of the Counts of Troyes. But these
we find " nomine" de la Terre de Pains, en Cham-
pagne (Campania)." I would therefore ask whether
there is any serious reason for not deriving the
name simply from Paganus in its early sense, a
countryman ; at the same time by no means
excluding the possibility of its having been in
certain instances adapted from the later applica-
tion described as " probable " by Lower (of. Skeat,
' Etym. Diet.,' " Paynim"). Freeman, in a review
('Essays,' fourth series, p. 179), writes, " Why
should any Christian man call his son Paganus ?
Yet many did so, and the name lives on in the
shape of the surname Payne." This is written
a propos of a story and derivation given by Lambert
in his * History of the Lords of Ardres,' and the
paragraph concludes: "We are thankful to know
what men thought, truly or falsely, to have been
the origin of a name which has often puzzled us."
ST. GLAIR BADDELEY.
AUTHORS OF QUOTATIONS WANTED. —
" That man has done well who leaves this world a little
better than he found it." X. Y. Z.
As is the dawn unto the perfect day
Such is the child unto the perfect man,
Self-same, yet undeveloped.
For merit is from man to man,
But standeth not, 0 Lord, to Thee.
E. WALPOBD.
The sleep that knows no waking.
I am aware that —
The sleep that knows not breaking
occurs in the ' Lady of the Lake.'
[Is it a misquotation?]
Others shall sine: the song,
Others shall right the wrong,
Finish what I begin,
And all I fail of win. M. B, OKQEB,
PALFREY MONEY.
(8th S. xi. 407.)
This was, no doubt, commutation money paid in
lieu of the palfrey which in the Middle Ages was due
to certain high personages by way of fee or service.
By the second statute of Westminster (13 Edw. I.,
cap. xlii.) it appears that the Earl Marshal claimed
a palfrey from earls, barons, and others holding by
a part of a barony, when they did homage, as well
as another palfrey when they were made knights,
and sometimes demanded the same from others
who were not bound to give it. On this subject
Camden observes in his discourse on " the anti-
quity and office of the Earl Marshall of England ":
" In the second statute of Westminster held 13 E. I.,
when many greiuances of the marshall were complayned
of, it was ordeyned in these words: 'Marescallus de
comite et barone integram baroniam tenente, de uno
palfrido sit contentus, vel de pretio quale antiquitus
percipere consuevit : ita quod si ad homagium, quod
fecit, palfridum vel pretium in forma prsedicta ceperit,
ad militiam suam nihil capiat ; et si forte ad homagium
nihil ceperit, ad militiam euam capiat. De abbatibus
et prioribus integram baroniam tenentibus, cum homa-
gium aut fidelitatem pro baroniis suis fecerunt, capiat
palfridum, vel pretium, ut praedictum est. Hoc idem de
archiepiscopis et episcopis observandum est. De his
autem qui partem baroniae tenent, sive sint religiosi sive
seculares, capiat secundum portionem partis baroniae
quara tenent.'* And out of the Red booke of the
* There are some unimportant discrepancies from
Ruff head's ' Statutes at Large,'
470
NOTES AND QUERIES. [8* s.xi. JUNE 12/97.
exchequer they certify in these words : * De officio mares-
calcias servivit Gilbertus Marescall comes de Strigul
accipit autem de quolibet barone facto milite a rege, et
quolibet comite eo die, palfredum cum Bella.' '
The option of commutation is clearly enough
mentioned in the statute ; but perhaps the palfrey
money inquired about by MR. F&RET was a
manorial due similar to the following, quoted by
Blount ('Law Diet./ 1691, s.v. " Palfrey- silver ")
from the ' Inquisitiones post mortem sive Escaetae,'
23 Edw. III., post mortem Gul. de Roos de
Harnlake : —
" Cuetumam ibidem (i. e, at Belvoir Castle) vocatam
Palfrey • silver, quas levari debet unnuatim de villis de
Boteleaford [Bottesford], Normanton, Herdeby, &c., et
aliis hamlettis."
F. ADAMS.
106A, Albany Road, Camberwell.
HOLE HOUSE (8«h S. xi. 148, 214, 313, 392).—
Having seen the three notes on this subject of
inquiry, I think that I can throw some light upon
it.
In Lightcliffe, in the township of Hipperholme-
cum-Brighouse, in the parish of Halifax, co. York,
there is, situated in a hole or hollow, a house called
Hoyle House, formerly known by the name of the
Hole House and the Hoile House. Its predecessor,
a better class of house, was the home for hundreds
of years of a Saxon yeoman family of the name of
Hole, Hoyle, and Hoole, who in the thirteenth and
fourteenth centuries were named De la Hole, Del
Hole, and Del Hoile— Hoile being the Yorkshire
dialect name for Hole, and they derived their name
from the spot where they lived.
The following extracts from wills at York will
show the connexion between the house and the
family : —
Will, dated 1591, of William Hoile, gent., of
31ead Hall, in Brighouse. In it he appoints John
Hole, of the Hole-house, guardian unto his second
son, Henry, who afterwards was vicar of Gisburn,
in Craven. And he also appoints his brothers,
John Hoile, of Hoile-house ; Henry Hoile, of
Harthorne (Horton, in the parish of Gisburn),
overseers of his will.
Will, made 1592, of Richard Hole, of Light-
cliffe, who appoints John Hole, of Hole-house, his
brother, supervisor of his will.
Will, made in 1604, of Gilbert Hoile, of Brig-
roide, in Rastrick, parish of Halifax. Has a son
Edward, whom he leaves, with his lands and goods,
to the custody and government of Samuel Hoile, of
the Hoile-house, and Edward Waterhouse, of
Priestley Green, gent., &c.
Will, proved April, 1637, of Samuel Hoole, of
aoyle-house. To Daniel Hoill, his son, besides
other property, one capital messuage called Hoyle-
house, with the land belonging, &c.
In the seventeenth century there were Hoyles
located in eighteen different places in the parish of
Halifax. Their descendants are those of South
Yorkshire and Newcaatle-upon/Tyne who till the
first quarter of the nineteenth century owned an
ancient and extensive house called Swift Place, in
Soy land, in the said parish.
The name of Hoile is in existence in Kent. A
family, said to have been of Flemish origin, settled
in Sandwich 300 years ago, descendants of whom
were living there twenty years ago, some of whom
owned and lived at Northbourne Court, in the
parish of Finglesham, near Deal, till near the end
of the last century. These may have sprung from
the Holes of the manor of Hole in Rolvenden,
near Ashford, in Kent, in 1340, mentioned by MR.
WILLIAM NORMAN.
I give the particulars about the family of Hoyle
of Yorkshire because queries and replies about
them have been inserted in former numbers of
'N. & Q.' I shall be obliged to MR. CHARLES
DRURT if he can tell me where the Hole House
mentioned in the deed dated 5 Henry VIII. is
situated. W. D. HOYLE,
13, Gray's Inn Square, W.C.
Let me add to the examples already collected of
the term hole in place-names Knocker's Hole, a
narrow passage close to Barry Lane, in the oldest
part of the heart of Cardiff. The name has become
obsolete in the last half century. What would be
its meaning ? It was situate in a region of cottages
and small gardens.
JOHN HOBSON MATTHEWS,
Town Hall, Cardiff.
STEPNEY CHURCH (6th S. i. 456 ; 8th S. xi. 413).
— As your valued correspondent MR. EVERARD
HOME COLEMAN has so kindly referred to my
papers on the monuments and inscriptions of
Stepney church and churchyard, may I add that
I have a few sets still left ? These I shall be glad
to place in the hands of any readers of *N. & Q.'
who would like to possess them. All I ask is that
in sending name and address they will also enclose
postage, which would cost threepence.
I have just read of the terrible havoc wrought
by lightning on the lovely old tower of Leigh
Church, Essex. Having lately copied and printed
the inscriptions in this church and churchyard also,
I shall be glad to give any of your readers copies, so
far as they will go, on the same terms as before
indicated. JOHN T. PAGE.
West Haddon, Northamptonshire.
THE HOME-COMING OP THE REMAINS OF LORD
BYRON (8th S. xi. 421). — In a most interesting
note at the above reference your correspondent
MRS. HILDA GAMLIN incidentally mentions that
"four urns of Grecian workmanship were enclosed
with the body ; these contained the heart, brains,
&c., of the poet." May I point out that Byron's
heart remained in Greece, at any rate at that time,
although its ultimate fate is apparently unknown ?
8th S. XI. JUNE 12, '97.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
471
The following paragraph on this interesting point
appeared in the first number of the Academy,
9 October, 1869, and is reprinted in No. 1280 of
the same journal, 14 November, 1896, under the
heading of 'The Academy — A Retrospect': —
"Pew are probably aware of the fate of the poet's
heart. After his death at Missolonghi, in 1824, hia body
was embalmed and sent to England, but the heart was
begged and obtained by the Greeks, who enclosed it in a
silver case. Four years later, after the protracted siege
of Missolonghi, a sallying party, carrying the relic with
them, cut a way, with great sacrifice of life, through the
Turkish lines; but the heart was lost in the marshes."
Remembering that at the time this note appeared
Mr. Murray was the proprietor of the Academy,
and that he was the custodian of most of the poet's
unpublished papers, and possessed other exclusive
Byron information, the paragraph is not likely to
have been printed by him had it not been well
authenticated. G. YARROW BALDOCK.
As an appendix to the communication of MRS.
GAMLIN let me add one or two notes which I took
down a few years ago from the lips of the late Sir
John Bowring. The body of Lord Byron was
sent from the Mediterranean to Sir (then Mr.) J.
Bowring's care, and addressed to him. On being
landed at the Temple, or I rather think the
Whitehall, Stairs, the body was carried to the house
of Sir Edward Knatchbull, M.P., in Great George
Street, Westminster, where it lay in a sort of quasi-
state, and was visited by many of his friends and
admirers, until, on the refusal of the Dean of West-
minster to allow his remains to rest in the Abbey,
they could be conveyed in a hearse down to Huck-
nall Torkard, near Nottingham, in the chancel of
which church they were buried, Mr. Bowring
himself, as one of Byron's executors, being among
those present. E. WALFORD.
Ventnor.
HANWELL CHURCH (8th S. xi. 228, 274, 377). —
At the last reference MR. EDWARD H. MARSHALL
classes Camberwell Parish Church with the above
as a specimen of the early " Scott and Moffatty "
style. Is not this a great injustice to Camberwell,
whose very beautiful church ought not to be men-
tioned on the same day with the wretched erection
at Han well 1 Camberwell and South Hackney
churches — both built by Gilbert Scott, and con-
secrated in 1847 — are the earliest two, and are
still among the very best, examples of revived
church architecture in London. W. R. TATE,
Walpole Vicarage, Halesworth.
VALUE OF MONEY (8th S. xi. 408). — I have
before me vol. ii. of Hallam's ' Middle Ages.'
Pages 515 to 521 contain a great deal of informa-
tion with regard to the purchasing power of money
in various reigns, and many authorities are referred
to and references given. Among them is a table
by Sir Frederick Eden, giving the value of a pound
sterling present money from 1066 to 1601. Haa
MR. BLACK seen this? I am afraid I am no
judge of the actual value of the information when
found. P. B. WALMSLET.
Putney, S.W.
ADDITION TO NATIONAL ANTHEM (8th S. xi.
323, 358). — I have a small pamphlet of eight pages,
sewn in straw-coloured covers, bearing the following
title :—
" Songs | composed for the celebration | of | Peace, |
at | West-Haddon, Northamptonshire, | On Friday, July
1st, 1814, | and printed at the request of the com- | mittee
for managing | the Festivities | By an Inhabitant |
Printed by J. Freeman, Sheep Street, | Northampton."
On pp. 3 and 4 occurs the following addition to
the National Anthem, from the pen of this local
versifier : —
Loud raise the song of fame*
Peace to the world proclaim'
While Britons sing ;
All hearts in concert raise,
To heaven the song of praise
A nation's grateful lays,
God save the King.
All hail the happy sound !
Let every hill resound,
And valley ring ;
Joy to the world, again
Peace comes to dwell with men,
Repeat the loud amen,
God save the King,,
Triumphant through the war]
Shone the bright British star,
Strike loud the string ;
All honor to the brave,
Who life and talent gave,
Our country dear to save,
God save the King.
Commerce again shall smile,
And plenty to our isle
Her born shall bring ;
What tongue shall fail to praise,
These Beef and Pudding days,
That set our hearts at ease !
God save the King.
With jovial mirth and cheer,
All friends and neighbours here
In union sing :
May England's trade increase,
Discord for ever cease,
And all the world have peace,
God save the King.
JOHN T. PAGE.
West Haddon, Northamptonshire.
ARCHBISHOP KOTHERHAM (8th S. xi. 409). —
Apropos of this ecclesiastic, it may be remarked,
in A.D. 1480, Thomas Scott, Archbishop of York,
usually styled Thomas of Rotherham, then Bishop
of Lincoln, founded a college in Rotherham for a
provost, five priests, six choristers, and three school-
masters, which he dedicated to the name of Holy
Jesus. It subsisted for about a century, and the spot
where it stood is still known as Jesus Gate. He also
defrayed the cost of a rich chapel, called Arch-
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bishop Rotherham's Chapel, in the parish church.
It is situated at the east end of the south chancel
aisle, and separated from the aisle itself by an
ornately carved oak screen of fifteenth century
workmanship. The carved bosses (of the same
date), in the roof of this chapel, have emblems, or
letters within circles, cut in their midst. On one
a star, on another an open pair of compasses, on
others, respectively, ms — N— TON — H— A — CH —
HO — B— D, in Gothic characters, of course.
HARRY HEMS.
Fair Park, Exeter,
PSALM TUNE (8th S. xi. 408).— The 'Old Hun-
dredth ' was introduced into England in 1562. It
was taken from the Genevan Psalter. It was some-
times named the * Savoy/ from its use by a
Huguenot congregation established in the Savoy,
London, in the reign of Elizabeth. It was known
as the 'Hundredth' until the old version of the
Psalms was superseded by Tate and Brady.
J. B. M.
' Memorials of the Savoy : the Palace, the
Hospital, the Chapel,' has the following to say
about the tune 'Savoy': —
" It has sometimes been conjectured, and not without
reason, that it is to this church that we owe the intro-
duction to popular notice of the well-known old French
tune for the 100th Psalm, which often goes by the name
of the Savoy. Mr. W. H. Havergal, in his learned book
on the ' History of the Old Hundredth Psalm Tune,' con-
jectures that the name refers to its supposed Savoyard
origin; and I do not know that the above theory has
ever been put forward in print. It is, however, so
plausible, and tallies so well with the facts of its history,
that we may well allow it to be correct, until at least we
meet with a better. True, the tune appears in Psalters
long before the date of the building of the French Chapel
of the Savoy, but this name is not applied to it until
about the period (1660) of which we are speaking, when
the singing in chapel caused it to be filled with a large
congregation, English as well as French."
Urmston, Manchester.
RICHARD LAWSON.
SNEEZING (8th S. xi. 186, 314).— Instances of
the superstitious importance attached to sneezing
go back to the earliest times, hundreds of years
before the Christian era. One each from Homer
and the Bible may serve : —
This said, about the house, in ecchoes round,
Her Sons strange Neesings made a horrid sound;
At whiche the Queene yet laugh t, and said : Goe call
The stranger to me : Heardgt thou not to all
My words last vtter'd, what a Neesing brake
From my Telemachus ? From whence I make
This sure conclusion; That the death and fate
Of euery wooer heere is near his date.
Chapman's ' Homer-Odysses ' (1616), p. 272.
About the same time or a little later than
Homer lived Elisha and the Shunamite woman,
whose dead child, we read, gave signs of returning
life by sneezing seven times. Those who are in-
terested in this subject may refer to Sir T. Browne's
'Vulgar Errors,' 1686, p. 165, where they will
find all that need be said. He mentions examples
in Apuleius, Pliny, Petronius Arbiter, Aristotle,
Hippocrates, Plutarch, St. Austin, and many
others. Modern reprints of Sir T. Browne can be
bought for a few shillings.
Here are some extracts not in Sir T. Browne :
"[AD. 590.] Also there came a pestylence of euyll
That pestilence slewe Pellagius the Pope/ that pestylence
was soo wode yl it slewe men in ye waye. At mete at
playenge and in talkynge/ and oft slewe men with galpynge
& snesynge. Therof it comyth that men vse to saye whan
they snese, God holpe the And whan he gapyth too
make a cross tofore his mouthe." — ' Polycronicon,' 1527,
f. 193 verso, col. 1.
With thys it chaunced me to snese :
Christe helpe, quoth a soule that ley for his fees,
Those wordes, quoth I, thou shalt not lees :
Then with these pardons of all degrees,
I payed his tole and set bym so quyght,
That strayt to heauen he toke his flyght.
Heywood's ' Four P's,' (Dodsley's « Old Plays,'
vol. i. p. 85).
Sneezing and blowing the nose are very much a
matter of habit, and should be controlled. I very
rarely do either, and yet never had fever or any other
contagious disease. Some people seem quite proud
to throw their whole strength into these actions ;
but such habits have very much decreased of late
years, probably owing to the almost universal use of
white pocket-handkerchiefs instead of the rich silk
ones formerly used. The ostentatious and fussy way
in which these showy silken articles were shaken
and paraded and tossed about, while a fantasia
was blown out of the nose, is quite laughable to
think upon. It was always gone through when
any considerable number of people met together,
especially at church, at the end of the Litany,
before the commencement of the sermon, and at
other intervals of the service. We have none of
it now ; people have grown quieter, and healthier
too, so far as my observation goes. K. K.
Boston, Loncolnshire.
The folk-lore of sneezing is very extensive, and
must, I imagine, have been dealt with at times in
* N. & Q.,' though I am not able to trace references.
There are interesting notes on the subject in Dr.
Brewer's c Phrase and Fable.' In Brazil it is
always the correct thing to invoke a blessing on a
sneezer, "God preserve you many years"; and I
have read somewhere that the custom arose through
the death of a Pope in the act of sneezing — but it
is earlier than any Pope. Mr. Andrew Lang says,
u The savage has good reason for his salutation of
the sneezer. He thinks the sneeze expels an evil
spirit" (' Custom and Myth,' ed. 1893, p. 14).
In Suffolk there is a sort of sneeze tariff, thus :
1, a wish ; 2, a kiss ; 3, a letter ; 4, a disappoint-
ment. JAMES HOOPER.
CAMBRIDGESHIRE (8tb S. xi. 408). — There is no
history to rank with such books as, for instance,
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Surtees's ( Durham '; but there is a * History ' pub-
lished and (I believe) written by Gardner, of
Peterborough, in 1850, which is very useful in its
way. 0. F. S. WARREN, M.A.
Longford, Coventry.
HOLLY MEADOWS (8th S. i. 431, 462 ; xi. 304,
375, 411). — Let me refer your readers to Southey's
poem, ' The Holly Tree ':—
Below, a circling fence, its leaves are seen
Wrinkled and keen,
No grazing cattle through their prickly round
Can reach to wound;
But as they grow where nothing is to fear,
Smooth and unarm'd the pointless leaves appear.
This is the passage mentioned, but not quoted, in
Mies Yonge's ' Heir of Redclyffe,' ch. x. : —
"The young leaves are sharp and prickly, because
they have BO much to defend themselves from, but as the
tree grows older, it leaves off the spears, after it has won
the victory."
W. C. B.
GRAMMARSOW=WOODLOUSB (8tb S. x. 354,
440).— In my ' Folk-Medicine ' (Folk-Lore Society,
1883), at p. 198, will be found some remarks on
the use of " grammar-sows " in domestic medicine
in Cornwall, with the following foot-note : —
"In the Eastern Counties they are called old-sows and
sow-bugs, and in other parts St. Anthony's hogs. The
Welsh have several names for this insect : gwrach-y-coed,
i.e., the withered old woman of the wood; gwmch-y-lludw;
gwrach-y-twed. Gwrach means a withered old woman, so
also does grammar ; so that grammar is but an English
equivalent of gwrack. Other Welsh names are mochyn-
y-coed, i.e., the little pig of the wood ; and tyrchyn llwyd,
i.e., the little grey hog.— W. N., Cornishman, 17 October,
3878."
I hasten to add that I express no opinion as to the
above derivation, so that if it is " bold and shame-
less " (see 8th S. x. 462) I trust no irate etymolo-
gist will have " several names " for me.
WILLIAM GEORGE BLACK.
12, Sardinia Terrace, Glasgow.
DOLOR AS A CHRISTIAN NAME (8th S. xi. 388).
— A probable explanation of this singular baptismal
name is that the child was born on the feast of
Our Lady of the Seven Dolours. Compare the
common Spanish (but female) name Dolores, and
the Italian Addolorata. I certainly never heard
of a masculine form ; but if the boy's parents were
Catholics, this explanation would be satisfactory.
JOHN HOBSON MATTHEWS.
Town Hall, Cardift.
DOG Row, MILE END (8th S. xi. 325, 435).—
The appellation is of earlier date than 1708, when
the ' New View of London ' was published. In
the year 1673, as we learn from Lysons ('Environs
of London,' ed. 1811, ii. 693), Philadelphia, Lady
Wentworth (for the purpose of paying off the debt
contracted by the Earl of Cleveland in the Civil
War), solicited the king's licence to build upon a
piece of ground, then a vacant space, called West-
heath, on the road to Stratford - Bow. Sir
Christopher Wren was employed to survey the
ground and give his opinion as to the eligibility
of the situation. Lysons gives a reduced copy of
the plan annexed to the report, whicn, according to
that authority, will be found in " Pat. , 26 Car. II.,
pt. 4, No. 16." In this plan Dog Row is shown
as running from Mile End Road to the " Way to
Bethnal Green." A licence to build was granted
on the Surveyor-General's report, but the actual
construction of houses seems to have proceeded
slowly, as Rocque'i-i map, seventy years afterwards,
which gives Dog Row as running from Mile End
Old Town to Cambridge Heath through Bethnal
Green, shows only a few scattered houses on the
south side of the high road from Aldgate. The
maps in my possession show that the name must
have been changed to Cambridge Road about the
year 1830. Previously to that time two rows of
houses had been built just beyond the junction
with Red Cow Lane (the present Cleveland Street),
the western one being known as King's Row, and
the eastern Queen's Row ; but even as late as 1814
Mile End had many of the characteristics of a
country village, and nouses were scattered few and
far between. One of the earliest buildings which
were erected on the land that Wren surveyed was
the beautiful Trinity Hospital, which had so
narrow an escape from destruction last year ; and
the fact that Wren was well acquainted with the
site seems an argument in favour of the tradition
that it was to his genius we owe this interesting
relic of a less utilitarian age. To Mudd and
Maples, and the other old salts whose names are
associated with the hospital, Dog Row and the
tavern from which, in all probability, it derived
its name must have been very familiar objects.
W. F. PRIDEAUX.
Kingsland, Shrewsbury.
MILITARY BANNERS AND COLOURS (8th S. xi.
447). — Besides Chelsea Hospital Chapel, I note
Littleton Church, Middlesex, as full of flags.
D.
'HISTORY OF PICKWICK' (8tb S. xi. 225,341,
414). — It is true that the custom of "notching,"
as referred to by C. C. B., must have died very
hard in village contests. What I endeavoured to
point out was that it had become a thing of the
past in more important matches. An engraving
of 'Cricket at Lord's' in 1822, shows the scorers
in the foreground armed with the modern pen and
sheet. Fortunately C. C. B. puts a question that
can be answered without hesitation. It is certain
that, in Town Mailing at least, the custom had
been discontinued. The county eleven, including
Fuller Pilch and Alfred Mynn, played many
matches there between 1830 and 1840 ; and not
only was the score sheet in use, but cards showing
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the state of the game were printed — by one
Windsor, according to Box— and sold on the
ground. Mr. W. W. Read says that important
matches have been recorded on sheets since the
latter part of last century, and instances a match
at High Wy combe in 1824 as being an exception
to the rule. The " Pickwick " encounter is alluded
to as a "great match," and it is certain that Kent,
of all counties, would not revert to the notched
stick in any important contest, village or otherwise.
GEORGE MARSHALL.
Sefton Park, Liverpool.
"Notching "is a word frequently used at the
present time in the neighbourhood of Sheffield at
cricket matches played by youths. Only the other
day I heard a boy call out to his companion,
asking how many notches he had got, and, as
your correspondent says, notches were often cut
upon a stick. Gardeners when planting choice
bulbs use the word "notch" when nicking a stick,
which was called a tally, for the purpose of denoting
the number of a certain kind of bulb planted in
rows. I have also heard the word " notch " used
when putting loops on a string to denote numbers.
CHARLES GREEN.
20, Shrewsbury Road, Sheffield.
THE MONMOUTH REBELLION : HARRIET MAR-
TINEAU (8th S. xi. 389).— There is a short serial
story by the above at pp. 85, 113, 141, 169, 197
of vol. vii. of Once a Week, called The Anglers of
the Dove,' from the character assumed by certain
partisans of Mary, Queen of Scots, conspiring for
her release from the custody of the Earl and
Countess of Shrewsbury. THOMAS J. JEAKES.
A well-written story, of which Monmouth's
rebellion supplies the motif, is * Alice Lisle,' pub-
lished anonymously (? 1860, J. W. Parker), but,
I should say, not written by the gifted Harriet.
EDWARD H. MARSHALL, M.A.
Hastings.
One of Miss Yonge's smaller books, ' The Dan-
vers Papers,1 is to a considerable extent founded
on this. Is that what NEMO means ?
C. F. S. WARREN, M.A.
"CONSENSUS FACIT MATRIMONIUM" (8th S. xi.
348). — I see this has not been answered yet, so
would venture to submit that it is simply a
common law maxim. At p. 22 of the sixth volume
of Ooke is " Consensus non concubitus facit nuptias
vel matrimonium, et consentire non possunt ante
annos nubiles." So that wherever the proper
"consent" is wanting, the formal ceremony does
not avail to make a binding marriage. The con-
sent may be wanting because one party is not of
the uage of consent," which in England is four-
teen in males, and twelve in females. If a marriage
be solemnized under these ages, it is not absolutely
void, but on attaining the age of consent the party
so attaining may either declare the marriage void
or agree to continue together ; in the former case
a judicial dissolution would not be necessary, and
in the latter another marriage ceremony would not
be requisite (see Wharton's * Law Lexicon ').
So the "consent" is wanting where one of the
parties is "non compos mentis," or is so overcome
by fear as not to have any will at all. A case in
which this question was involved arose out of a
marriage at St. Bride's Church, Fleet Street, I
think. The reference is Cooper v. Crane, 1891,
Probate Div. iii. p. 369. As Mr. Justice Collins
said, it was a very hard case ; but it was not
allowed to make bad law. When the "I will*' is
once said, it is hard to prove that "Barkis" was
not " wi'.lin'." P. B. WALMSLEY.
Putney, S.W.
" Consensus non concubitus facit nuptias"
(l Digest,' 50, 17, 30) is a maxim of the civil law.
GUALTERULUS.
"RARELY" (8th S. x. 333, 366, 421, 518; xi.
109, 173, 309, 370, 410).— A final word may, per-
haps, be tolerated. It was because "rarely "is
used predicatively in the sentence originally
quoted that I drew attention to it. My conten-
tion was, and is, that it should be used adverbi-
ally ; I am in complete agreement with COL,
PRIDEAUX in his assertion that " it merely operates
to qualify the verb emerge." Its position in the
sentence quoted from the Literary World prevents
its modifying character from being recognized, and
therefore "it is" should be dropped from the
sentence or "rare" should be substituted for
"rarely." THOMAS BAYNE,
Helensburgb, N.B.
THE BEST GHOST STORY IN THE WORLD (8th S.
xi. 248, 338).— The following is that which I have
always considered the best ghost story : —
"Dr. Fowler, Bishop of Gloucester in the early part
of the eighteenth century, was a believer in apparitions.
The following conversation of the bishop with Judge
Powell is recorded : 'Since I saw you,' said the lawyer,
'1 have had ocular demonstration of the existence of
nocturnal apparitions.' ' I am glad you are become a
convert to the truth; but do you say actual ocular
demonstration? Let me know the particulars of the
story.' ' My lord, I will. It was — let me see — last
Thursday night, between the hours of eleven and
twelve, but nearer the latter than the former, as I lay
sleeping in my bed, I was suddenly awakened by an
uncommon noise, and heard something coming upstairs
and stalking directly towards my room ; the door flying
open, I drew back my curtain, and saw a faint glim-
mering light enter my chamber.' 'Of a blue colour, no
doubt.' 'The light was of a pale blue, my lord, and
followed by a tall meagre personage, his locks hoary
with age, and clothed in a long loose gown, a leathern
girdle was about bis loins, his beard thick and grizzly, a
large fur cap on his head, and a long staff in his hand.
Struck with astonishment, I remained for some time
motionless and silent ; the figure advanced, staring me
full in the face. I then said, " Whence and what art
thouT" 'What was the answer— teU me-^what was
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the answer?' 'The following was the answer I re-
ceived : "I am watchman of the night, an't please your
honour, and made bold to come upstairs to inform the
family of their street door being open, and that if it
was not soon shut they would probably be robbed before
morning." " — Penny Magazine, 14 April, 1832, No. 3,
vol. i. p. 24.
THOMAS J. JEAKES.
Tower House, New Hampton.
' THE ABC' (8ttt S. xi. 405).— It will interest,
at least, MR. THOMAS to know that his suggestion
has long been anticipated in a railway guide issued
in Manchester, and with this addition — the time
of early closing. If MR. THOMAS cares to see how
the editor of the Manchester and Salford Railway
Guide carries out this extra information I will send
him a copy of the guide. RICHARD LAWSON.
Urmaton, Mancheater.
The suggestion is made that railway guides
should indicate the market day and the weekly
half-holiday of every town. 'Bradshaw's Guide
gives the market-days in the " Index to Stations,"
and, if I am not mistaken, it has done so for years
past. ERNEST B. SAVAGE.
St. Thomas's, Douglas.
COAT or ARMS (8th S. xi. 147).— Per chief or
and azure, over all a lion rampant ermine, is borne
by the family of Goldwell, Godington, co. Kent.
The same arms, with the lion rampant argent
gutte de poix, belong to James Goldwell (son of
William, of Great Chart, Kent), Bishop of Norwich,
1472-99. Also the same, with the lion rampant
argent billetee sable, to James Goldwell, Hector of
Cheriton, Kent, and Bishop of St. Asaph, 1556-8.
I cannot find the name of the bearer of the
impaled arms. It seems doubtful whether the six
flower-heads or columbines are the correct charges.
JOHN RADCLIFFE.
" HARRY-CARRY " (8th S. xi. 427).— Palmer, in
his ' Perlustration of Great Yarmouth/ says that
the Yarmouth cart for the conveyance of goods
first came into use in the reign of Henry VII., and
was therefore called harry -carry. It was also
called a troll cart or trolly. In a note he says that
a writer in 1776
" describes the wheels as being two feet nine inches high
and mostly made of one solid piece of poplar or ash, five
inches thick without tire; but that these solid wheels
were not so much used as they previously had been. The
axle-tree was a cylindrical piece of oak, twelve inches
thick, having an iron pin driven through the entire
length."
In 1599 no shod cart or cart with iron-bound
wheels was allowed to go over the gutters, for fear
of damage. The cartage for herrings from the
beach at that time was one penny per swill by day,
and three-halfpence by night. A swill was a
basket containing about 500 herrings.
Nail, in his ' Great Yarmouth and Lowestoft,'
says that the Yarmouth trolly carts first appear in
an ordinance of Henry VIII., whence they are
called harry-carry. In his ' Glossary ' he gives
the name as hurry carriers or harry carriers ; and
gives a quotation from Nashe's 'Lenten Stuffe': —
"The sun was so in his mumps upon it, that it waa
almost noon before he could go to cart that day, and then
with so ill a will he went, that he had thought to have
toppled his burning car, or Hurry-Curry, into the sea (as
Phaeton did), to scorch it and dry it up."
In the next sentence he seems to derive the word
from Sw. and Danish hurtig, rapid, fleet. ; O.H.G.
hurse, quick ; huri, a cry to urge on horses. The
term harry-carry is obsolete in Yarmouth now.
W. E. LAYTON, F.S.A.
Cuddington Vicarage, Surrey.
I do not know why harry-carry and hurry -carry
are omitted sub voce from Mr. Rye's * Glossary of
Words used in East Anglia,' published for the
English Dialect Society in 1895, but there is a
long note on these words in Nail's ' Etymological
and Comparative Glossary of the Dialect and Pro-
vincialisms of East Anglia' (1866), appended to
his ' Handbook to Great Yarmouth and Lowestoft.1
Nail quotes a passage from Nashe's ' Lenten Stuffe,'
wherein the sun is "thought to have toppled his
burning car, or Hurry-Curry, into the sea." The
term, adds Nail, "is now obsolete in Yarmouth,
but might with great propriety be rebestowed upon
its rapid, rattling fish conveyances." The Yarmouth
trolls or trolly carts are well described at page 40
of Nail's work, and in a note it is stated that
these carts "first appear in an ordinance of
8 Henry VIII., where they are described as those
lately devised carts called Harry Carriers." Mr.
Rye's * Glossary ' has : —
"Carrie. — The long narrow Yarmouth cart, adapted
to go up the rows (Johnson). They are said to have been
invented in the reign of Henry VIII , and called Harry
carriers. But for years they have been called Trollies."
Perhaps some reader of ' N. & Q.' can quote that
part of the Act 8 Henry VIII. describing harry
carriers. The carts have been frequently figured
in local works referring to Yarmouth.
JAMES HOOPER.
Norwich.
BEDS IN THE HALL (8th S. xi. 346).— In 'The
Homes of Other Days,' by Thomas Wright, F.S.A.,
London, 1871, frequent mention is made of the
ball being occupied as a bedchamber by the
domestics and strangers of low degree. See
pp. 12-15, 16, 125, 160, 269.
EVERARD HOME GOLEM AN.
71, Brecknock Eoad.
The custom is alluded to in Wright's * Domestic
Manners and Sentiments,' p. 256.
EDWARD H. MARSHALL, M.A.
Hastings.
"THREE ACRES AND A cow" (8th S. xi. 365,
432). — I was under the impression that Mr. Jesse
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Collings got this phrase from Mr. John Stuart
Mill's ' Principles of Political Economy,' book ii.
chap. vi. sect, v., and chiefly in combating the
English prejudice against cultivation of peasant
properties, from a quotation, made from a treatise
on Flemish husbandry, as follows : —
" When the land is cultivated entirely by the spade,
and no horses are kept, a cow is kept for every three
acres of land, and entirely fed on artificial grasses or
roots. This mode of cultivation is principally adopted
in the Waes district, where properties are very small."
A. FROOD.
JOSIAH NISBET (8th S. xi. 408). — My nephew,
Mr. E. 0. Malan, an unwearied genealogist, who
has lately visited Stratford-sub-Castle, informs me
that the church contains a tablet to the memory of
a man named Webb, of " Stratford and the Island
of Nevis "; also that Josiah Nisbet had a brother
whose Christian name was James Webb (my great-
uncles, but I never until now heard of the latter).
Putting the two facts together, we may surmise
that there was some connexion between the Nisbets
and the Webbs in Nevis, and that this may have
been the cause of Josiab Nisbet being taken in his
last sad illness to Salisbury or Stratford. The
family of Webbs, of Salisbury, are said to have
owned property in Stratford-sub-Castle.
C. B. MOUNT.
CARNATION (8th S. xi. 307, 391).— It may be
observed that, in addition to mentioning the flower,
Sbakspeare uses this word to denote a colour : —
Nym. They say he cried out of sack.
Hostess. Ay, that a* did.
Bard. And of women.
Host. Nay, that a' did not.
Boy. Yes, that a' did : and said they were devils
incarnate.
Host. A' could never abide carnation : 'twas a colour
he never liked.—' King Henry V.,' II. iii.
A somewhat gruesome form of word-play. It
may be hoped that Falstaff's inordinate love of
sack — a white as distinct from a red wine — may
have been the lamentable result of his antipathy
to " carnation," even in liquor.
GEORGE MARSHALL.
Sefton Park, Liverpool.
"BOB" = AN INSECT (8th S. xi. 229, 313).— Is
not your querist at the first reference too hasty in
assuming that bob used as above is a proper noun ?
The * N. E. D.' is more cautious, and regards the
word as " of unknown origin." There are quota-
tions for the word, used as equivalent to " the grub
or larva of a beetle used as bait for a fish," or a
beetle, ranging from 1589 to 1792. The word is
regarded as obsolete or dialectal. Black-bob is
used in Dorsetshire for the cockroach (Blatta
orientalis). Tent-bob, a very small spider, is given
in Halliwell's ' Dictionary,' with a reference to
Aubrey's ' Miscellanies,' ed. 1721, p. 145.
F. C. BIRKBECK TERRY.
"SKATES": " SCATCHES " (8th S. xi. 305,376).
— In chapter xii. of the Kev. S. Baring-Gould's
4 Cheap Jack Zita.' one of the fenlanders he so
well describes mentions "sketches, what some
people call stilts." ' Cheap Jack Zita ' contains
such a body of fenlaud folk-lore as it would be
difficult to find in any other single volume, and
the descriptions of old customs, only recently
become extinct, among the <( Cambridgeshire
Camels " are most vivid and interesting.
JAMES HOOPER.
Norwich.
THE QUEEN'S HEAD UPSIDE DOWN (8th S. xi.
424). — Some years ago, when Ireland was not so
free from political excitement as she is now, certain
of our Nationalist friends, of the more extreme
type, suggested that all true patriots should make
a point of affixing stamps to their letters with the
Queen's head upside down, as a visible protest
against Saxon rule. But I fancy this suggestion
did not go further than in letters to sundry Nation-
alist newspapers. GEORGE ANGUS.
St. Andrews, N.B.
I can bear testimony to the remarks your corre-
spondent makes on this subject, and will remember
the seriousness with which an old c'erk warned
me, when, fresh from school thirty yv ars back, I
had, with a lad's indifference, stuck a stamp on a
letter wrong side up, that I was liable to be fined
20Z. for the " offence." The old fellow's dictum has
stuck with me, and I in turn (minus the penalty)
instruct that all stamps shall be placed in their
right position. E. L.
"RETURNS" (8th S. xi. 424).— Here are some
more examples of the use of this word. The returns
or profits from a business or undertaking ; returns,
a mild, pale tobacco ; election, census, official,
statistical, and agricultural returns ; in military
engineering, the returns or windings of a trench,
also of a passage leading to a mine ; in architecture,
parts which recede from the front of a straight
work, also continuations in opposite directions of
mouldings and the like (Gwilt, ed. by Papworth) ;
in mining, ascending air which has traversed the
workings of a coal-pit. Most of these instances
are to be found in Ogilvie's ' Imperial Dictionary,'
1882. E. G. CLAYTON. '
Richmond, Surrey.
JOHN GREENLEAF WHITTIER (8t!l S. xi. 28, 91,
213, 315, 430).— Transatlantic readers will be
glad to know that on 6 June, 1654, a major in the
service of the Commonwealth, who signed his
name "Jo. Grenlefe," wrote a letter from
Kingston-upon-Hull to the Commissioners of the
Admiralty at Whitehall, and sealed it with his
heraldic seal, a chevron between three leaves ; crest,
a bird holding a similar leaf in its beak. On
7 September, 1654, the Mayor and Aldermen of
8th 8. XI. JUNE 12, '97.J
NOTES AND QUERIES.
477
Kingston-upon-Hull lent to Major " Greeneliefe "
money for the payment of soldiers. W. C. B.
PETER OF COLECHURCH (8th S. x. 397 ; xi. 12).
— In an unsigned article on 'London Bridge,'
contributed to Brayley's 'Graphic and Historical
Illustrator,' the following statement ia made con-
cerning the remains of Peter : —
" During the progress of the demolition, the moulder-
ing bones of Peter of Cole-church were dug up from
under the floor of the Chapel Pier, but that atten-
tion was not paid to their preservation which a due
respect for the memory of the venerable architect
demanded. The late Mr. William Knight, the principal
acting engineer of the new bridge, told the writer of
this article that the bones in question were not pre-
served, but thrown into the barge, alongside the pier,
which received the rubbish."
With regard to the second query, the same
writer, quoting Stow, says : —
"This church [St. Mary Cole-church in the Poultry],
which was a small fabric, named of one Cole, that builded
it upon a vault above ground, so that men are forced to
ascend up thereunto by certain steps, was destroyed in
the great fire of 1666."
KICHARD LAWSON.
Urmston, Manchester.
NONCONFORMIST MINISTERS (8tto S. xi. 408). —
MR. TOMLINSON should, if possible, refer to the
bundles of Quarter Sessions Files for his county,
which ought to be in the custody of the Clerk of
the Peace. Among them he would probably find
a more or less complete series of Justices' Licences
to open meeting-houses for public worship, to-
gether with the paper petition to that effect signed
by the minister and the leaders of his congrega-
tion. Some of these would most likely be found
also with the Gaol Files at the Record Office.
JOHN HOBSON MATTHEWS.
Town Hall, Cardiff.
Miss FAIRBROTHER (8th S. xi. 267, 335, 390).
— My grandmother was a Sarah Ebsworth, born,
I believe, at Stonehouse or Stroud, in Gloucester-
shire, in 1784, and I have always heard my father
say that Miss Fairbrother was her niece. Her
parents came to London, and I fancy that her
father was an H. Ebsworth who was living at
New Buildings, George Yard, Snow Hill, from
1806 to 1809. My grandfather was living close
by at the same time in New Buildings, Fox and
Knot Yard, Snow Hill. A. F. H.
Miss Fairbrother was certainly at the Lyceum
Theatre during the Keeley management. When
I was a boy I saw her there in the burlesque of
'Valentine and Orson.' Mr. and Mrs. Keeley,
Mr. Alfred Wigan, and Mr. Samuel Emery also
played in the piece. Miss Fairbrother personated
a princess, who disguised herself as a knight, and,
when so disguised, she was addressed by Valentine
as " My fair brother." This little joke makes me
quite certain that she was the actress who played
the part. E. YARDLEY.
RULE THE ROOST (8th S. x. 295, 365, 423, 503 ;
xi. 273, 358).— The remarks of D. M. R. at the
last reference induced me to make further inquiries
with reference to the remarkable title of the book
which I quoted some time since, with the result
that I find the whole thing (the title, that is) was
really a joke. This I have learned from its per-
petrator. D. M. R.'s translation is very near the
mark ; but the whole thing is so vulgar that I
refrain from quoting. While I must congratulate
D. M. R. on his powers of discernment, which were
materially increased from his knowledge of Welsh,
I exceedingly regret my lack of similar powers.
But then I do not claim acquaintance with the
Welsh language. Its attractions (?) have always
been far too many for me. The derivation of
"Rule the roost" which was quoted by me was,
I understand, from a genuine source ; but whence,
I am unable to say. 0. P. HALE.
It is noteworthy that, while in 1555 Master
Steven Gardener is referred to as the master-cook
who "ruled the roste," first in Wolsey's house
then in the house of Henry VIII., Skelton, who
died in 1529, had already said of Wolsey him-
self—
He ruleth all the roste
With bragging and with boste.
' Why Come ye not to Court ? '
In Prior's ' Turtle and Sparrow,' the latter says : —
I never strove to rule the roast,
She ne'er refus'd to pledge my toast.
JAMES HOOPER.
Norwich.
CHINESE FOLK-LORE (8th S. xi. 165, 235, 277).
The following remarks from ' Dictionariuin Rus-
ticum, Urbanicurn et Botanicum,' 1726, vol. i.,
article " Cat," may be added with reference to the
varying appearance of a cat's eyes during the
day : —
"For its eyes Authors say, that they shine in the
Night, and see better at the Full, and more dimly at the
Change of the Moon ; also that her Eyes vary with the
Sun, the Apple of it being long at Sun-rising, round
towards Noon, and not to be seen at all at Night, but the
whole Eye shining in the dark ; which appearances are
certainly true, but whether they answer to the times of
the Day, has not yet been obgerv'd."
F. C. BIRKBKCK TERRY.
. HENRI WADDINGTON (8tQ S. xi. 428, 458).—
William Waddington, born at Walkeringham,
Notts, in 1751, and residing at Chatham Place,
London, married in 1788 the only child of Henry
Sykes, of the Crescent, Blackfriars, London.
Sykes was a descendant of the Pendrells of Wor-
cestershire. Sykes and Waddington established
cotton factories in France in 1792; the Revolution
put an end to these, but in 1819-21 Waddington
478
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received 302,000 francs compensation. He had
four sons, all born in or near London, and all even-
tually naturalized in France — Thomas, William
Pendrell, Frederick, and Alfred. Thomas married
Janet Mackintosh Chisholra, who died in 1891,
and had two sons, William Henry, the numismatist
and statesman, and Richard, now a member of
the French Senate. J. G. ALGER.
Paris.
RED, WHITE, BLUE (8th S. x. 294 ; xi. 296, 376).
—In replying on the academic question of the
meaning of these words in a song, which purposely
I quoted only to the extent required, I had no
intention of criticizing its spirit. I like no more
than NEMO the music-hall Chauvinism which is
said to bring the whisky-and-water into the eyes
of tipsy clerks, and which elicits loud cries of
" Shame ! " from those whose efforts for a cause of
the merits of which they may be totally ignorant
begin and end with this ejaculation. There was
a song called ' The Englishman,' written about
fifty years ago (the air of which, as well as that of
'The Red, White, and Blue,' I heard at Monte
Carlo no later than last April), which always struck
me as being objectionably obtrusive. It made one
think of that happy time, in the spring of 1763,
when, as Gibbon informs us, a ray of national
glory illumined each individual, and every English-
man was supposed to be born a patriot or a philo-
sopher. But in the song of the sailor or the soldier
some self-assertion is necessary and some exaggera-
tion pardonable. When Hercules and Alexander
were compared with the British Grenadier it was
not to the detriment of the latter. When our
ships were built of heart of oak our men boasted
to be of correspondingly sterling material. And
I do not think they were the worse or the less
modest in consequence. KILLIGREW.
COUNTESS BRUCE (8tb S. xi. 409).— I take it for
granted that the particular Countess Bruce in-
quired for is she who was dame d'honneur to
Catherine II. of Russia, and stood high in her
confidence and favour. She was the sister of a
field-marshal, whose name I have seen only in the
Frenchified form Roumantsof, and was the wife
of Count James Alexandrovitch Bruce, Governor-
General of Moscow, and son of a distant relative
and immediate successor to the title of Count
James Daniel Bruce, the most celebrated of all
the Russian Bruces. I believe that further in-
formation may be obtained from J. H. Castera's
' Qeheime Lebens- und Regierungsgeschichte
Katharinens der Zweiten,' 1798, 3 vols. in 8vo.
It is in the British Museum Library.
G. DAVIES.
Isleworth.
POPE'S VILLA, TWICKENHAM (8th S. xi. 325). —
I think that circa 1857 I used to be told that the
" villa " had been on the land (the right) side of
the road to Teddington ; and that the grotto had
formed a subway under the road. I know that
such an arrangement does, or did, exist in the case
of Garrick's Villa at Hampton, for, on the occasion
of an auction-sale there, circa 1867, 1 went through
it on to the lawn by the river and into the
"Temple," then used as a billiard-room.
THOMAS J. JEAKES.
AUTHORS OF QUOTATIONS WANTED (8th S. xt.
269).—
In 'Twilight Hours,' by Sarah Williams (Sadie),
Strachan, 1868, pp. 123-5, may be found the interesting
poem for which C. C. inquires, though the verse is not
correctly quoted. The poem is entitled ' Is it so, O
Christ in Heaven ] ' which is the opening line of each of
the five verses. The volume was published after her
decease, and contains a memoir by the late Dean
Plumptre. WALTER CROUCH.
[A copy of the poem was enclosed by our correspond-
ent, which shall be forwarded to C. C. on receipt of
a stamped and addressed envelope.]
(8th s. xi. 429.)
The couplet —
The partridge may the falcon mock
If that slight palfrey stand the shock —
is from the * Lord of the Isles,' describing the charge of
De Bonne on the Bruce, not mounted on his war horse,
but " reining a palfrey low and light." J. R. M.
NOTES ON BOOKS, &0,
English Minstrelsie. By S. Baring-Gould, M,A. Vol»
VII. (Edinburgh, Jack.)
THE penultimate part of Mr. Baring-Gould's ' National
Monument of English Song ' is graced with an excellent
portrait of the compiler and an introductory essay on
English folk-music. By what Mr. Baring-Gould calls " a
curious fatality," English folk-music has been allowed
to pass away, some of the airs having been appropriated
by the Scotch, others by the Irish. Those men, even,
who, with Paul Bedford, Hudson, and Sam Cowell, took
up folk-airs, only vulgarized them " by setting to them
words of low buffoonery." With the songs sung at
harvest festivals and the like we have no personal
familiarity. Such folk-songs as in our youth we heard
needed no imparted element of grossness. Mr. Baring-
Gould has been fortunate as well as assiduous, and has
succeeded in saving from total loss a considerable
quantity of folk -music. Northumberland, Yorkshire,
Sussex, Devon, and Cornwall have been explored for
traditional melodies. Other counties have been neglected,
and it is now, it is to be feared, too late for any effective
efforts at recovery. The introduction, in which what
has been done is described, is illustrated with pictures
of places and of what may be miscalled "the spinsters
and the knitters in the sun," whence the information
has been derived. A portrait of William Shield is given
in the notes. Among the songs now reprinted are
Shakspeare's "As it fell upon a day," mueic by Bishop ;
Gay's "How happy could I be with either"; 'Molly
Lepell,' by Lord Chesterfield and Mr. Pulteney ; " Will
you hear a Spanish lady1?" "It was a lover and his
lass"; 'Richard of Taunton Dean'; and many others
of equal interest. Lovers of old music may be con-
gratulated that the book so enthusiastically undertaken
by Mr. Baring-Gould is now on the verge of completion,
NOTES AND QUERIES.
479
1 THE POETRY or SPORT,' in the Quarterly Review for
April, ia an interesting paper which suggests much, and
is, indeed, it may be, in some respects more valuable
than the volume of which it is a review. How strange
it is, when we take into account that we are more given
to athletic sports than any other race, that there is
go little verse of even second'dass character which is
devoted to the delights of the field! It may be said with
some truth that most of our poets have not been sports-
men ; there are, however, several exceptions to this
generalization which will occur to every one. The cause
lies far deeper down in our nature we feel assured.
Field-sports, though always attractive to the healthy in
mind and body, lie, it may be suggested, too near the
surface to become the subject of high-class poetry. They
do not touch the deeper roots of our nature, as do war,
love, and the family affections among every race of man-
kind. The article on Lamennais cannot fail to interest
those who have studied the religious movements of the
century now near its end. Lamennais was a child of
the French Revolution ; his opinions — or perhaps we
should rather say, his passionate spiritual yearnings —
varied from time to time, and not unfrequently were, as
it seemed to his friends, the direct contradictories of
what they had been but a little time before; but this is
a mere surface-view, which cannot be safely used as an
interpretation of such a character as his — a character,
as it seems to us, essentially simple when it is remem-
bered that he was a son of Brittany, and inherited from
a long line of ancestors, said to be of unmixed descent,
all the fervour and mysticism of the Celtic nature,
which in his case had been welded by ages of battle
with the elements into a temper as unyielding as steel
and as elastic as the blade of a rapier. The contro-
versies in which the turbulent career of Lamennais was
spent have not in themselves much interest for any one
now, but the power, beauty, and pathos of his writings
will never cease to have a charm for those whose
interests are not confined to limited aspects of the
eternal struggle of the human heart for the reign of
justice on earth. ' The Psalms in History ' is one of the
most poetical papers which we have met with for some
time past. It is in no sort critical. We do not in any way
despise criticism ; it has, we hold, still a great function
to perform before the full value of the Psalms becomes
clear to us. But there is another view of equal import-
ance with that which is purely scientific. The authorship
of the various Psalms is one thing, their effect on the
Christian world quite another. The writer has traced
through history their power over the human mind,
which has been vast almost beyond comprehension.
Much that he says will be as new to the reader as it has
been to ourselves, but on the other hand we cannot
doubt that had not the writer's space been limited many
another instance could have been given of the power ol
Hebrew poetry over Western thought. We have been
much pleased by the article on ' The Human Mind and
Animal Intelligence.' It treats of a difficult subject,
whereon many persons nowadays feel justified in writing
and speaking with but little preliminary of accurate
thought. The paper is, however, far too short ; surely
further space could have been made by holding back one
or two things of much smaller value. The late Prof.
Jowett is, as a matter of course, treated of. The writer
is warmly sympathetic. We are in agreement with
nearly everything he has said, but he should really
have avoided the comparison between Jowett and Dr
Johnson.
VERY many of the June reviews and magazines dea
with Dr. Mahan's * Life of Nelson, the Embodiment o:
the Sea Power of Great Britain.' In the Nineteenth
'entury the notice is by Col. Sir George Sydenham
Jlarke, K.C.M.G. In this, as in other cases, the merited
applause is warmly accorded. "It id a picture," says
Sir George, " drawn in firm lines by a master hand, in
which the significance of the events chronicled stands
out in true proportion. Nelson's place in history, his
mission as the great opponent of the spirit of aggression
of which the French Revolution was the inspiring force
and Napoleon the mighty instrument, his final triumph-
are all traced with infinite skill and inexorable analysis."
Mr. William Huggins deals with ' The New Astronomy,'
showing the experiments by which he found that the
nebulae which the telescopes reveal are ' ' the early stages
of long processions of cosmical events, which correspond
broadly to those required by the nebular hypothesis in
one or other of its forms." 'Roses of Jericho.' by Mr.
Rowland E. Prothero, depicts life in provincial Prance-
that France that many of us have learned to prize far
above the great centres of population, Paris itself not
excluded. The description is well— even brilliantly —
written, and supplies some delightful pictures of French
manners and modes of thought. A touching article is
that — posthumous, of course — of Mr. J. Theodore Bent on
' The Island of Socotra.' The proofs of this the writer was
never able to see. Mrs. J. R. Green writes on < Woman's
Place in the World of Letters,' and dwells upon
woman's comparative aloofness from theological, meta-
physical, and political speculation, and her " detachment
from the whole classic world." The Comte de Calonne
has an interesting paper on ' Chantilly and the Due
d'Aumale.'— To the New Mr. C. F. Keary sends a highly
appreciative account of Paul Verlaine. " A satyr, if you
will," is Verlaine, according to Mr. Keary ; " the pointed
ears at least and the beard are there. But the attitude
in which, through his verse, you see him oftenest is
really that of the Listening Faun, who hears an echo
somewhere or has by accident struck his foot against the
plectrum." He doubts, too, in spite of the often
repeated parallel between Villon and Verlaine, whether
there is much resemblance in character between the
modern poet, " essentially childish and gentle, indolent,
passionate, and the superb ruffian " of the ' Repues
francb.es.' The editors of the " Centenary Burns,"
Messrs. W. E. Henley and T. F. Henderson, deal rather
scathingly with what they call « The Cult of Mary Camp-
bell.' 'Jus Primae Noctis,' by Mr. Neil Munro, gives
some remarkable pictures of ancient Scottish life. No
very great mystery is hidden behind Mr. P. Anderson
Graham's ' A Secret of the Reign.' The chief conclusion
to be drawn is that the best Englishmen are the outcome of
periods of war, a theory that is open to be assailed as well
as defended. A coloured portrait of the Queen, by Mr.
W. N. P. Nicholson, is also supplied. — ' Queen Victoria's
Coronation Roll," which appears in the Century, is one
of the most interesting papers that have been published
concerning the forthcoming anniversary. It is accom-
panied by admirably executed portraits of the Princess
Victoria at the age of four, of the Queen in 1838, 1840,
and 1896, and by several facsimiles of portions of the
Roll. An account follows of St. Gaudens, an American
sculptor, born in Dublin, of whom Englishmen are likely
to hear much. Reproductions of his work convey a very
high idea of his originality and power. 'Heroism in
the Lighthouse Service ' is an excellent contribution,
spiritedly illustrated. Mrs. Fletcher's 'Home Life
among the Indians' supplies curious information as to
the rules of propriety observed in the case of Indian
women. ' Campaigning with Grant' is well continued,
and has a clever illustration. — ' Undergraduate Life at
Princeton' gives, in Scribner's, a roseate view of the
surroundings of the students. The designs are excellent.
Even more remarkable are those illustrating the mr.gni-
480
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ficent ' New Library of Congress.' ' The Open Boat ' is
one of the most stimulating and exciting things we bave
read in modern magazine literature. ' London as seen
by C. D. Gibson' is not quite so satisfactory in the latest
instalment, which deals with London salons.^ as it was
in some previous portions. We fail to recognize the life
depicted. ' Ralegh in Guiana,' by Barrett Wendell, is
in dramatic shape.— The Pali Mall reproduces Greuze's
lovely 'Head of a Girl.' A capital account of Lyme,
with views by the author, is sent by Lady Newton. It is
to be hoped that this series of papers on the great houses
of England will be reproduced in a separate form.
Parts VI., VII., and VIII. of « The Story of 1812 ' com-
plete this highly dramatic record of Napoleon's retreat
from Russia, which has profound interest for soldiers,
and may be read by all students of history. ' Hyde Park
in Days gone by '-reproduces from the Grace Collection
and other sources many old and quaint pictures of the
gp0t._ In Temple Bar, ' The Girlhood of a Polish Prin-
cess ' reveals to most of us a very charming personality,
whose letters may be read with much pleasure. Mrs.
Kemp's ' Plea for the Study of Sonnets ' we do not
quite understand. She has much to say that may be
read concerning sonnets; but is there any lover of
poetrv that neglects them i The gratifying story of ' The
New "South Wales Contingent ' is well told. ' Our Men
of Letters and our Empire ' is a short paper on a great
subject. 'A Village Discussion Forum' may be com-
mended.—' Pages from a Private Diary,' in the Cornhill,
are always entertaining, but do not improve or quite
keep up to the original form. Lady Jane Ellice, one
of the surviving bridesmaids to the Queen, contributes
a few interesting ' Memories of the Queen's Childhood
and Marriage.' In ' Duels of all Nations ' is a whimsical
misquotation from Tennyson's ' Maud.' The writer says,
"The late Lord Tennyson epoke of duelling as the
Christless code ' that must have Uoio for How ' " ! The
italics are ours. « The Battle of Sluis,' ' The Battle of
Spingee,' and 'Freemasonry and the Roman Church'
may all be commended. — In Macmillan's, Prof. Tyrrell,
reviewing the ' Landscape in Poetry' of Mr. Francis T.
Palgrave, expresses his own views on the subject, and
points out that many of the passages cited have little
bearing on the question bow Nature was regarded by
early writers. A very small volume would, indeed,
suffice to contain all the instances existing in early
poetry of inspiration derived from the beauty of land-
scape. Mr. John R. Dasent, best known as editor of
the ' Acts of the Privy Council,' gives a graphic account
of ' In and about the West Indie?.' Mr. David Hannay
reviews Capt. Mahan's 'Life of Nelson.' There are
good papers also on ' Americans at Play ' and ' On the
Abuse of Dialect.' — With its pretty coloured frontispiece,
representing punting, the English Illustrated looks very
gay without. Mr. Clark continues his spirited and ad-
mirably illustrated pictures from the life of Nelson,
dealing now with the Baltic. A good account follows of
' Ben Nevis Observatory,' and is itself succeeded by
' Canada's Premier,' Mr. Wilfrid Laurier, Mr. Gen-
nadius has a short contribution on ' Byron and the
' Greeks.' reproducing the statue of Byron in Athene, and
Mr. William Simpson depicts with pen and pencil
' Within Sebastopol during the Siege.'— Mr. Clive Phil-
lips-Wolley gives, in Longman's, a pleasing account in
verse of ' The U. E. Loyalists.' Mr. Basil Williams depicts
a recent 'Attack on a Telegraph Station in Persia,' and
Miss Gabrielle Festing supplies ' The Love Letters of a
Lady of Quality,' a series of delightful letters from
Elizabeth Jemima, Lady Erroll, to John Hookham
Frere. — The Fortnightly, which this month reaches us
very late, has an essay by M. Filon, to be continued, on
The Modern French Drama,' which is much worthier
of consideration than are the views he has elsewhere
expressed upon English plays. Mr. Hamilton A'ide
undertakes a defence of ' Corsican Bandits/ Judge
O'Connor Morris deals with Capt. Mahan's 'Nelson.'
Writing brightly upon ' Literature in the Victorian
Era,' Mr. H. D. Traill has much to say that is worth
attentive study. He treats our modern would-be or self-
proclaimed poets with an indifference that is likely to
wound their vanity. Mr. Joseph Rock writes of ' The
New Era in Hyderabad,' Mr. H. H. Statham censures in
the main 'The Paris Salon?,' and Mr. Charles Williams
depicts 'The Thessalian War of 1897.' — Chapman's
Magazine has, as usual, a pleasant variety of contri-
butions of the lightest kind.
MESSRS. CASSELL & Co. issue the second part of The
Queen's Empire, showing the means of progression by
land and sea used by the Queen's subjects in various
parts of the empire, from a jinriksha in Natal to the
Cauipania departing from Liverpool, or a third-class
dining-car on the Great Northern, and including even
a dog-sleigh in the Hudson Bay territory.— Cassell's
Gazetteer, Part XLV., ends at Renvyle House, and has
illustrations of Princetown, Queenborough, Raglan Castle,
the Recnlvere, and other spots of interest.
A SPECIAL double number of the Daily Graphic gives
a long and profusely illustrated history of the Queen's
reign, and has on the cover a fine portrait from life
drawn by the late George H. Thomas.
SUCCESSIVE numbers of the Photogram which are sent
us give gratifying proof of the advance in photographic
art.
THE June number of the Journal of the Ex-Libris
Society contains, under ' Modern Book-Plate Designers,'
an account by the editor of Mr. Samuel Hollyer, some
characteristic designs by whom are reproduced. Mr.
Charles Dexter Allen resumes his ' American Notes.'
Mr. R. C. Lichtenstein gives a Hat of Americans owning
book-plates who were educated for the law at one or
other of the Inns of Court.
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appeared, under the title of 'An Antiquary's Ghost
Story,' in the Athenaum for 10 Jan., 1880, p. 54. It
bears the signature of the Rev. Dr. Jessopp.
J. M. G. (" Who steals the common from the goose ").
— Authorship unknown. For different versions see 7th S.
vi. 469; vii. 98; 8"' S. x. 273.
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CONTENT S.— N° 286.
NOTES :— Lines by Mrs. Norton— Dr. Paris and Dr. Penneck,
481— Legend of tbe Fall of Angels, 483— D'Israeli. 484—
" Cocaine "—Font Stone— Lassetter : Squatters : " Walers"
—Bath in the Eighteenth Century— Washing on Good
Friday Eve, 485 — Use of a Bishop's Throne—" Honi soit qui
malypense" — Hogg and Tannahill— "Bazzomy"— Slang
in the House of Lords— John Witbens— " Dally," 486.
QUERIES :— "Harvestry": " Harvey i zed "— "Cappel-faced"
— Col. Galatin — Romance of the Three Lemons — ' Friends
in Council'— T. G.— Belief— " Pyrography "— Jew's Harp:
Jew's Trump— Earl of Beverley — Thoyts— " Tom, Dick,
and Harry," 487 — Wonersh — Silver Medal— Running Camp
— Map—' Armorial Families'— Slavonic Names— Dog-gates
— ' Nature '.- ' The Bible of Nature,' 488— Milking Syphon-
Bishopric of Ossory— Cheney Gate — Induction at Dorking
-De Medici— Peninsula Medal, 489.
REPLIES :—" Eye-rhymes " in Surrey and Wyatt, 489—
39th Foot, 491— Ship Constitution— Horace Walpole, 492—
Unicorn Emblem and Horn— Thimble — St. Patrick's Pur-
gatory— Rev. A. Symmer — Yiddish, 493— Carrick— Popular
Names of Drugs— " Abraham's Bosom" — Hotham— "Con-
servative." 494— Holmby House — Good Friday Custom—
• Dublin Gazette '— " Fullams," 495—' II Penseroso'— " Not
worth a tinker's curse "— Etoniana — Yeomen of the Guard
—Order of the Bath, 496 -Public-houses—" Halifax Shil-
ling"— Wilkes — Pronunciation of Evelyn — Cornish Super-
stition, 497 — Dr. Beaumont — Caen Wood— Science in the
Choir— The Derby — School at Parson's Green — Funeral
Customs, 498.
NOTES ON BOOKS :— Roberts's ' Memoirs of Christie's '—
White's 'Wordsworth and Coleridge MSS.'— Yarker's
1 Continuation of the Comte de Gabalis '— ' Folk-lore.'
Notices to Correspondents.
LINES BY MRS. NORTON.
Amongst some early Victorian pamphlets in my
possession I have found one which is of interest
at the present time. It consists of a sheet of four
pages, stitched in a grey wrapper, which bears
the following title : —
" Lines on the Remark attributed to Edward Oxford
(who attempted Her Majesty's life), ' that this country
ought not to be governed by a woman.' Printed for
Bale at the Charity Bazaar, held at Lady Mary Fox's, at
Kensington. 'God Save the Queen.' London: Printed
by Charles Reynell, Little Pulteney Street. MDOCCXL."
The trifle is dated " June, 1840," and is signed
" C. E. Norton," and as it is not probable that
many copies are in existence, I may perhaps be
permitted to quote the concluding lines : —
She heard the bolt of death fly past
(Oh ! moment dark and dread !)
Then fearlessly she raised again
Her young majestic head ;
And on she went, with gracious smile,
All tranquil and serene,
She knew, tho' one rush traitor aimed,
The People loved their Queen !
She turned not with a woman's fear
To sheltering Palace wall,
Her guards were in her subjects' hearts —
The hope, the star of all 1
Was this a soul unfit to reign ?
Was this, the bright young bride,
A girl irresolute and weak,
A mock to England's pride 1
No ! if to that high soul be joined
Fair face and feeble arm,
It doth but add, to thinking minds,
A glory arid a charm :
And God shall bless the brave young Queen,
Who feared no traitor's might,
And guard our Cceur de Lion still,
In every sacred right !
In connexion with the gifted author of these
lines it may be opportune to draw attention to
some remarks made by Mrs. Norton's nephew,
Lord Dufferin, when presiding over a meeting of
the Irish Literary Society at St. Martin's Town
Hall on 10 June. Lord DufFerin, according to the
report in the Daily Telegraph of the following day,
"alluded to the story, introduced in Mr. Meredith's
tale 'Diana of the Crosswaye,' that a woman had
wormed out of a Secretary for State a most important
Cabinet secret and conveyed it or sold it to the editor of
the Times. The story, which attributed this most in-
famous act to Mrs. Norton, had been current in society,
had found a place in the works of four historians, had
been embodied in 'Diana of the Crossways,' and had
been reproduced in several memoirs ; but it had now been
shown that for this infamous calumny there was no
foundation. In confirmation of tbe statement in the
' Greville Memoirs ' that the secret was communicated
direct to the Times by the Minister himself, Lord
DufFerin quoted from a letter which he had received
from Mr. Reeve, editor of the Edinburgh Review, tbe
declaration that that gentleman himself summoned the
editor into the presence of Lord Aberdeen, to whom he
was private secretary at the time."
It might be wished that the graceful pen to
which we owe the ' Sketch of my Mother ' which
is prefixed to the volume of ' Poems and Verses
by Helen Lady Dufferin ' would favour the world
with an adequate biography of the " queenly spirit
of a star " who is celebrated in the verse of Edward
Bulwer Lytton. W. F. PRIDEADX.
Kingsltmd, Shrewsbury.
DR. PARIS AND DR. PENNECK.
Several biographical notices of Dr. Paris have
been written, but they are all deficient in details
respecting some portion of his earlier career. The
intention of the following notes is to supply this
deficency and to furnish information which to a
great extent will be original.
John Ayrton Paris, born at Cambridge on
7 Aug., 1785, was educated at Gonville and Caius
College, Cambridge, and took his M.D. degree in
1813. In the October of that year he settled at
Penzance, on Mount's Bay, with the hope of
obtaining a practice by attending the numerous
consumptive patients of good position who wintered
in Cornwall. Up to this time Mr. Henry Penneck,
"apothecary, surgeon, and man-midwife," had been
the chief medical man in the town. He became
jealous of the arrival of Paris, more particularly
as the latter, being a physician, held a superior
position in society.
Some years previously, Penneck had taken steps
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for obtaining the M.D. degree. I am indebted to
Mr. J. Maitland Anderson for some information
on this point, taken from the ' Minute Books of
the Senatus Academicus of the University of St.
Andrews ': —
"St. Andrews, Jan. 5th, 1811.— A certificate was
given from Stephen Luke, M.D.,and Henry Clutterbuck,
M.D., London, in favour of Henry Penneck, of Penzance,
Cornwall, candidate for the degree of M.D."
" St. Andrews, 2nd Feb., 1811.— The University agree
to confer the degree of M.D. on Henry Penneck, the
candidate mentioned in the minute of 5 January last."
No further record is found in the University
books, nor can the date of taking the degree now
be ascertained with a certainty. It appears, how-
ever, from other sources that Penneck delayed
taking the degree, and it was not until after the
arrival of Paris at Penzance, in October, 1813, that
Penneck went to Aberdeen and was there admitted
M.D. On his return to Penzance he, for some
reason, made a secret of where he had been, but, in
answer to inquiries, said he had received a diploma
of M.D. from "a competent university." This
circumstance caused some people to have doubts
about the M.D. diploma, and Paris was possibly
among the number.
In 1814, a conversation between Dr. Paris, Mr.
Ashurst Majendie, and Mr. Henry Boase, on a
wet afternoon, in the news-room at Penzance, led to
the formation of the Geological Society of Cornwall,
and Paris became the secretary. In 1815, in a
printed list of the members, he inserted Penneck's
name as "Dr. Penneck," instead of "Henry
Penneck, M.D.," as it had stood in the original
list. This was a great offence, as Penneck believed
that Paris had done it purposely. The offence is
not very obvious until it is explained that it was
customary among the miners in Cornwall to call
the mine surgeon Doctor and to designate the
physician Mister. On 15 April, 1815, at 10 o'clock
in the evening, Penneck called at the residence of
Dr. Paris, and, on being admitted, attempted to
assault him with a stick ; but Paris, assisted by his
servant Jane Runnalls, turned Penneck out into
the street (Eoyal Cornwall Gazette, 29 July, 1815,
p. 3; 12 Aug., p. 2). Paris then preferred a bill
of indictment for an assault, and after some local
law proceedings and considerable delay the case
was ultimately tried at the assizes at Bodmin on
26 March, 1816, when Mr. Serjeant John Lens
appeared for the plaintiff and Mr. Serjeant Albert
Pell for the defendant, and a verdict of guilty was
returned (Eoyal Cornwall Gazette, 13 April, 1816,
p. 4) ; but the defendant was never brought up for
judgment (West Briton, 12 April, 1816, p. 1). It
appears, from some printed documents which Pen-
neck issued, that when called in to consult on the
cases of two gentlemen, he had entirely disagreed
with Paris as to the proper treatment.
In June, 1815, Paris was presented to the Prince
Regent, at a levee, by a well-known Cornishman,
Lord de Dunstanville, and in the autumn of 1817
he left Penzance to settle in London. The follow-
ing letters, the originals of which are in the British
Museum (Additional MS. 29,281, fol. 127, 138,
165), give some interesting details about his life in
London. The letters are addressed to Mr. Henry
Boase, who was at one time a partner in the
banking house of Messrs. Kansom & Co., Pall Mall
East, London. He took part in the formation of
the British and Foreign Bible Society in 1803,
and his name, as a member of the original com-
mittee, is found on a marble tablet in the entrance
hall of the Institution, in Queen Victoria Street.
Ill-health obliged him to leave London in 1809,
when he retired to his native county, and resided
at Penzance. Here he assisted in the management
of a local bank, served the office of mayor in 1816,
and died on 8 April, 1827,
4, Sackville Street [London], December 7, 1817.
Mr DEAR SIR, — Many thanks for your prophetic letter.
I hope your good wishes may be realized. Hitherto I have
met with everything pleasant and consoling, and as to
professional success much more than my most sanguine
hopes could have anticipated. I have been one month
in my present temporary residence, and during that
period I have taken a greater number of fees than I ever
did in Penzance during a similar interval. You '11 smile
when I tell you that my first patient in London, was a
quondam respectable acquaintance of yours, Jew King,
who is living in great magnificence in Fitzroy Square.
I expect tomorrow to conclude for a house in Dover
Street, an excellent one, and, indeed, I may say splendid
house, opposite to Lord Ashburnham's, the next door to
Nash, the celebrated architect. The expense is, of course,
frightful, but a faint heart never succeeded with the
Goddess of Fortune.
But the society. I regret not having before this seen
some account of your meeting ; it is for many reasons
essential that you should show the world that you still
respire. I received a letter from a distinguished person
in the country a few days since in which the following
paragraph appeared: "As for your Geological Society,
we hear nothing of it, not that I expect to do so, as 1
conclude it will fall to the ground."
I dined with Sir Thomas Bernard a few days since,
and had the pleasure to meet Sir George Staunton and
the different diplomatic characters engaged in the late
expedition to China, to which were added Mr, West, the
celebrated artist, and several others equally distinguished
for talent. These are events which render life worth
preserving, and I freely confess, independent of any
pecuniary considerations, these have a full share in
attracting me to London.
I am waiting with great anxiety for the arrival of Mr.
Hawkins's papers, for which alone we are now delaying
the publication of the Transactions.
I hope poor Forbes ia getting on. I endeavoured to
speak a good word for him the other day to Lady Bella-
mont's apothecary; indeed, to tell you the truth, he
called upon me to ask my undisguised opinion of him,
by desire of the family.
To you, residing in a sequestered, obscure, and remote
part of the British dominions, it may not be uninterest-
ing to hear the popular, or rather medical, opinion con-
cerning the cause of the Princess Charlotte's death. It
seems to have been caused by haemorrhage, but which
was never suspected until after death.
With respect to scientific news I can inform you that
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483
a method has been discovered of making the Acetite of
Alumine, for the purpose of dyeing, from the China clay
from St. Stephen's. Dr. Latham has just sent me a
quantity of vegetable extract obtained from the potato
plant possessed of very strong narcotic properties, and
which promises to be a remedy of considerable power. I
am publishing a third edition of my work on ' Pharmacy.'
I need only add how happy I shall be to hear from
time to time of my good friends at Penzance and of the
society. I understand that all the addresses will be
communicated to the Regent through the Secretary of
State. He is too nervous to receive them himself. Mrs.
Paris unites with me in best compliments to Mrs. Boase
and your daughter and family. Pray present my
remembrances to Mr. Game.
I remain, dear sir, your truly,
JOHN A. PARIS.
Henry Boase, Esqre., Penzance.
" Jew King " was Mr. John King, of 31, Fitzroy
Square, and of Belvidere, Mullingar, Ireland.
The society referred to is the Geological Society of
Cornwall, the first volume of the Transactions of
which Paris was passing through the press. Mr.
Hawkins's papers, for which he was waiting, were
five papers by John Hawkins, F.K.S., who
died in 1841. " Poor Forbes " is John Forbes,
afterwards Sir John Forbes, who succeeded Paris
as a physician at Penzance. "Lady Bellamont"
is Lady Emily Maria Margaret Fitzgerald, second
daughter of James, first Duke of Leinster. She
married Charles Coote, Earl of Bellamont, and
died at Penzance on 8 April, 1818. A tablet to
her memory was erected in St. Mary's Church by
her four daughters. George IV.'s nervousness was
caused by the death of his daughter, the Princess
Charlotte. Joseph Carne was a banker, a geologist,
and a Fellow of the Royal Society; he died at
Penzance on 12 Oct., 1858.
Dover Street [London], March 21, 1818.
MY DEAR SIR, — Without any intention or wish on my
part, I find myself involved in the subject of the Salt
Duties. Sir Thomas Bernard has thought proper to
select me as the person to give an evidence before the
House of Commons upon the Medical and Physiological
facts which bear upon the question at issue. Willing,
therefore, to arm myself with all the instruments in my
power, I apply to you for assistance upon several points.
1 know how well you wish us success, and how persuaded
you feel of the oppressive nature of the tax.
Mr. Seckler informed me just before I left Penzance
that the poor in his neighbourhood were much distressed
for salt, and that his wife's pork-tub was so constantly
drained of its pickle, that he was almost induced to give
up the custom of preserving his pork. I wish much you
would see or write to Mr. Seckler upon this point and
learn from him the extent of this suffering from Salt.
I have myself witnessed considerable distress in some of
the interior parts of the county, and the children are
unhealthy and subject to worms, when their meagre
diet of potatoes is not well salted.
Mr. Chenhalls will also give you some information
respecting the state of St. Just. I learn from him that
if the poor of that parish had not smuggled salt they
must have starved during the late unfruitful season.
The great question I wish to obtain from you is this.
If salt were 6d. a stone, instead of 6s., would not the
quantity consumed be treble in the county of Cornwall 1
How much in such a case would be probably employed
in manure ? What is the relative strength of refuse and
pure salt ?
Lord Eenyon has just called upon me ; he speaks con-
fidently upon the result. Lord Somerville is inclined to
think the tax will be reduced.
Write me a long letter upon the subject, and show the
advantages which are likely to accrue to the county of
Cornwall by the reduction of the duties.
Pray remember me kindly to all the branches of your
family and to those inhabitants of the Western Metro-
polis who may enquire after me.
I have every reason to be satisfied with my growing
prospects, I find my practice increasing daily.
I was much gratified at seeing so respectable a meeting
of your Geological Society. I begin to entertain some
hopes that the bantling will live. What effect will the
Truro Society have upon it ?
I had nearly forgotten to say that Mr. Parkea has
requested me to propose him as an honorary member of
the society. To you, who know his merit, I need hardly
say how cheerfully I comply with his request, and I hope
that his election will take place as soon as possible.
He says that it is bis intention to a send a paper to the
society, should he be elected, upon a subject connected
with the interest of the county.
Yours most truly,
JOHN ATRTON PARIS.
Henry Boase, Esqre,, Penzance.
The duty on salt, which was very oppressive, was
abolished in 1825. Sir Thomas Bernard, baronet,
M.P., a philanthropist and a consistent advocate
for the reduction and abolition of the salt duties,
died 1 July, 1818. Lord Kenyon must have been
George Kenyon, second Baron Kenyon, who died
25 Feb., 1855. Lord Somerville was probably
John Southey Somerville, fifteenth Baron Somer-
ville, who died 5 Oct., 1819.
GEORGE 0. BOASE.
36, James Street, Buckingham Gate.
(To be continued.)
THE LEGEND OP THE FALL OP ANGELS. — Has
any one traced to its source the origin of the legend
of a rebellion and fall of angels as elaborated in
* Paradise Lost'? The writers of the Old Testa-
ment knew nothing of it, or carefully ignored it.
There is no mention of Satan or of hell (not Sheol
or Hades, but Gehenna, the lake of fire) until we
come to post-exilic times, when the books of the
Ketubin, or Hagiographa, were written. From
the age of the Maccabees and on to that of the
New Testament, a large apocalyptic literature was
produced, in which angelology and demonology
abound. This fact naturally suggests the con-
jecture that these legends were brought from
Babylon by the returning Jews, and became a
part of the national literature. This conjecture is
confirmed from notices in the Chaldean Tablets, if
we may trust to the interpretation of Chaldean
scholars. In the 'Chaldean Account of Genesis,'
by G. Smith, we read : —
" The fragmentary account of the Pall in the inscrip-
tions mentions the dragon Tiamat, or the dragon of the
sea [abyss ?], evidently in the same relation as the ser-
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pent, being concerned in bringing about the Fall. This
dragon is called the dragon of tiamat, or the sea; it ia
generally conceived of as a griffin, and is connected with
the original chaos, the Thalatth of Berosus, the female
principle which, according to both the inscriptions and
Berosus, existed before the creation of the universe.
This was the original spirit of chaos and disorder, a
spirit opposed in principle to the god?, and, according to
the Babylonians, self-existent and eternal, older even
than the gods, for the birth or separation of the deities
out of this chaos was the first step in the creation of the
world."—?. 87.
ain : —
" It appears, however, that the gods have fashioned
for them a sword and a bow to fight the dragon Tiamat,
and Anu proclaims great honour to any of the gods who
will engage in battle with her. Bel or Merodach volun-
teers, and goes forth armed with these weapons to fight
the dragon. Tiamat is encouraged by one of the gods
who has become her husband, and meets Merodach in
battle. The description of the fight and the subsequent
triumph of the god are very fine, and remarkably
curious in their details, but the connexion between the
fragments is so uncertain at present that it is better to
reserve comment upon them until the text is more com-
plete. This war between the powers of good and evil,
chaos and order, is extra to the Creation, does not cor-
respond with anything in Genesis, but rather finds its
parallel in the war between Michael and the dragon in
Revelation xii., where the dragon is called ' the great
dragon, that old serpent, called the Devil and Satan,
which deceiveth the whole world.' This description is
strikingly like the impression gathered from the frag-
ments of the cuneiform story ; the dragon Tiamat, who
fought against the gods, and led man to sin, and whose
fate it was to be conquered in a celestial war, closely
corresponds in all essential points to the dragon con-
quered by Michael. These fragments of the cuneiform
account of the Creation and Fall agree, so far as they
are preserved, with the Biblical account, and show that
from B.C. 2000 to 1500 the Babylonians believed in a
similar story to that in Genesis.1 '-—Pp. 99, 100.
Again : —
" Our next fragments refer to the creation of man-
kind, called Adam, as in the Bible ; he is made perfect,
and instructed in bis various religious duties, but after-
wards he joins with the dragon of the deep, the animal
of Tiamat, the spirit of chaos, and offends against his
god, who curses him, and calls down upon his head all
the evils and troubles of humanity." — P. 304.
The statement that Tiamat is a female and that
Adam joined himself to her, and by this union
brought all the evils into the world, shows a strik-
ing correspondence with the Jewish legends about
Lilith, the first wife of Adam and the mother of
all the demons. These legends are certainly of
foreign, and not of Jewish origin. The above
extracts suggest Babylon as their source.
E. LBATON-BLENKINSOPP.
THE NAME D'ISRAELI. — This name was a
puzzle to me until, within the last few years, I
had occasion to study the grammar of post-Biblical
Hebrew a little more closely. I knew, indeed, as
any student of Hebrew must know, that the affix
* ( = i, pronounced, of course, as, say, in Italian)
was added on to nouns not only as a possessive affix
= WM/, but also to express some relation to or con-
nexion with the noun. See Gesenius's 'Lehrg.'
(1817), p. 514, and Wright's 'Arabic Grammar'
(1862), § 249, p. 134, for this usage is not confined
to Hebrew. I knew, therefore, that this * was
frequently used of the inhabitants of a country, as
in pW 'Amalek, and *p!?»y 'AmaleUte, or of the
descendants of some well-known man, as in
'* Ishmael, and vKSJlpG?' Ishmaelite (1 Chr.
11. 17). According to this rule, therefore,
v&OJJ^* Israeli would mean Israelite, and so,
indeed, it does in 2 Sam. xvii. 25. But, in the
case of the name D'Israeli, it was obvious that this
could not be the meaning, for as all Jews are
Israelites it would be ridiculous to call any one
Jewish family " Israelite. "t I was obliged, there-
fore, to look elsewhere for an explanation, and for
years I did not find it. At last I came to notice
that in post-Biblical Hebrew it is not unusual to
find this * tacked on to the name of a private
individual with the meaning of son, or at least
descendant of that individual — a practice that, so
far as I am aware, is not to be found in the 0. T.
One of the best examples of this practice is to be
found in the Jewish names of the celebrated
Rabbi who is commonly known to Christians as
Maimonides. For the Jews call him either
p P1B>B (Moses the son of Maimon) or
n&?D (Moses Maimoni),J which shows that
= the son of Maimon.
Israeli would, therefore, = the son (or at any
rate the descendant) of a certain Jew named Israel,
and this is an intelligible explanation ; and in
Fiirst's ' Bibl. Jud.' we find a great many Jewish
writers named Israel, a few named Israeli, and a
few named Israels and Isserlee, which last mean
much the same as Israeli, only that they are
Germanized forms.
But D'Israeli does not occur in Fiirst excepting
as the name of the great statesman's father, and
the U is more difficult to explain. The Disraelis
(to use the common form), however, came from
Italy, and in Italy the prep, di, with the plural
of the def. art. (dei or degli), or, less frequently,
the prep, di alone, is used to express "of the
* Curiously enough, both Gesenius and Wright keep
the T of 7&O^<> in v&TJB^i whereas in the Bible (loc.
cit.) it is shortened into :, as I have shown also that it ia
n
t It may be urged that English is an English surname.
True; but one may be quite sure that it was not in
England the name was first given. Moreover a Jew,
wherever he lived, could not have the name Israeli given
to him by the inhabitants of the country, because in no
language but Hebrew does Israeli mean Israelite.
J Another similar name given by Fiirst is <»pnV==the
son (or descendant) of Isaac. And I have met with
other similarly formed names.
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485
family of" ("ex gente," as Pott has it in his
* Personennamen,' second edit., p. 560), or "son
of." Of the first form, " de' Medici " is certainly
the best-known example ; of the second, " Bonanno
di Ser Benizzo " is given by Pott, who renders the
di"Sohndes."*
D'Israeli means, therefore, " son (or descendant)
of the son (or descendant) of [a man called] Israel."
F. CHANCE.
Sydenham Hill.
PRONUNCIATION: " COCAINE."— It is somewhat
exasperating to hear this word now almost uni-
versally pronounced as a dissyllable, like the word
cocaigne, a barbarism which completely destroys
the structure and obscures the meaning of the
unfortunate word. It cannot be too emphatically
insisted that this word should be pronounced as a
word of three syllables — co-ca-ine, signifying, as it
does, the active principle of the narcotic shrub
coca, which, by the way, has nothing to do with
cocoa — this, propter simplicitatem laicorum. In
words of this formation the termination ine always
denotes the alkaloid or active principle of any-
thing. Thus morphine, the active principle of
opium ; nicotine, the active principle of tobacco ;
quinine, that of cinchona ; strychnine, that of nux
vomica ; caffeine, that of coffee ; theine, that of
tea ; and cocaine, that of coca. It commonly
happens that if any person be pulled up for calling
it cocaigne, the offender pleads, with an air of
satisfied assurance, " Well, the doctor pronounced
it so." If so, all I have to say is, the worse for
the doctor. PATRICK MAXWELL.
THE FONT STONE. — The following is a cutting
from the Scotsman of, or about, 14 April : —
" In to-day's Scotsman it is reported that at a meeting
of the Society of Antiquaries yesterday notice was given
of a etone on the moor near Dullatur, shaped like a
Roman altar, and having on the upper surface four cup-
shaped hollows, but of which the origin and purpose are
at present unknown. It may not be generally known —
except to those who frequent the less commonly used
paths on the Pentland Hills — that near one of the
summits which overlook Nine-Mile Burn Inn there is a
stone, evidently of a somewhat similar character, though
with one hollow only on the upper surface, known as the
'Font Stone' — of a roughly oval shape, carefully hol-
lowed out in the centre, and apparently of considerable
antiquity. It is simply referred to in the small guide-
book called ' The Pentland Hills: their Paths and Passes,'
as a ' curiously hollowed stone ' ; but it would be
interesting to learn if some of our local antiquaries are
aware of any history attaching to the stone in question,
or if there can be anything in common between it and
* In Germany, especially, "son of" is sometimes
expressed by the genitive of the Lat. form of the name,
and this is commonly in i, as, e.g., Martini=Martin's
son, and Pott (p. 561) tells us that this gen. in i is also found
in Italian. It might be said, therefore, that Israeli was
formed in this way. But in the Vulgate, Israel is not
declined, and, if it were, it is not sure that its genitive
would be in *, Comp, Michaelis.
the stone on Dullatur Moor. If nothing else comes of
this inquiry, it may at least serve to induce some more
townsfolk to enjoy the pleasant stroll during the coming
season from Balerno over to Nine - Mile Burn ; and
whether their curiosity is exercised as to the origin and
purpose of the ' Font Stone ' or not, their interest might
be stimulated in the only practical way to maintain
these hill paths for the use and advantage of the public.
-—I am, &c., " PENTLANDS."
CELEE ET AUDAX.
LASSETTEK : SQUATTERS : " WALERS."— I notice
that the newly* arrived New South Wales Mounted
Rifles, to take part in the Diamond Jubilee cele-
brations, are coloneled by a Mr. Lassetter, recruited
from amongst squatters, and mounted on " walers."
I was under the impression that squatters were
things of the past ; but an opulent Victorian
squatter figures prominently in the story of
' Nipper and Toby, the Australian Shepherd
Boys,' by William Howitt ; at pp. 257-295 of
' The Boy's Birthday Book,' by Mrs. S. C. Hall,
W. Howitt, A. Mayhew, T. Miller, and G. A.
Sala (London, Houlston & Wright), which I re*
ceived early in the sixties. The name " walers "
for N.S.W. cavalry mounts has, I believe, been
long in use in India. THOMAS J. JEAKES.
SOCIAL AMENITIES AT BATH IN THE EIGHTEENTH
CENTURY. — The volume of Moskovskiya Vedo-
mosti for 1769, which I have already put under con-
tribution, relates in No. 41 the following queer
anecdote from England : —
"A fashionable concert was being given at Bath, and
the hall was crammed, when a bevy of fair and noble
ladies unexpectedly arrived. The manager ordered a
bench to be set for their accommodation in front of the
first row of seats. The occupants of the latter were not
unnaturally displeased, and vigorously protestedj but
without effect. From words they came to blows, and the
eclipsed beauties fell tooth and nail on the intruders.
A pitched battle ensued, at the end of which the field was
thickly strewn with trophies of the fight — tatters of torn
laces, ribbons, and tippets, and other female finery. At
a later hour detachments of the combatants were observed
readjusting their attire, and recruiting their strength in
adjoining chemists' and pastrycooks' shops."
" But that hath long been o'er." 'Tis too old
a scandal. " Rest on your battle-fields, ye brave.
We call you back no more !" H. E. M.
St. Petersburg.
WASHING DONE ON THE THURSDAY BEFORE
GOOD FRIDAY. — I have been inquiring of my
washerwoman as to her ideas about washing done
on the " Holy Thursday." She informs me that
the prevalent idea in this village (Edwinstowe,
Newark) is that it would be a terrible thing to
wash and hang out a pair of sheets : " My mother
did use to say as she wouldn't hang out a pair o'
sheets if t' were iver so, for if you did so a' Holy
Thursday, you 'd sure to have a corpse in t' house
afore a year wer out." She further told me that
" them idees wer a dyin' out," but nothing would
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induce her to wash that day. This village, in spite
of modern improvements, railway, &c., abounds in
curious superstitions ; it is most interesting to hear
an old inhabitant talk, especially when shyness is
overcome and he or she gets " coomfartable wi' ye "
— a favourite expression.
N. OOBHAM-BREWER HAYMAN.
Edwinstowe Vicarage, Newark, Notts.
CURIOUS USB OF A BISHOP'S THRONE. — In
'Recollections of Scottish Episcopalianism,' by
the Rev. W. Humphrey, S.J., the writer says
that, as the late Bishop Wordsworth, of St.
Andrews, having differences with his cathedral
chapter at Perth, refused to enter the cathedral
or use his throne, the provost (Mr. E. B. Knottes-
ford-Fortescue, who became a Catholic) utilized
the Episcopal chair as a confessional by having a
piece of perforated zinc let into the side of it as a
grille, and then sitting in the throne and hearing
confessions. How far Bishop Wordsworth approved
of this pious practice history does not say.
GEORGE ANGUS.
St. Andrews, N.B.
"HONI SOIT QUI MAL Y PENSE." — In the
Athenaeum for 20 March there is a short notice
of the meeting of the Philological Society on
5 March, in which the following reference is made
to a poem being edited by Mr. I. Gollancz : —
" * Winner and Waster ' is a poetical political pam-
phlet on the state of affairs just after the first jubilee of
Edward III. The writer has a vision of a plain and
warriors ready for battle. On a cliff near is a heap of
Garters, with the earliest known englishing of Honi
soit qui mal y pense, ' Hething [scorn] have the hathell
[man] that any harme thynkes.'' '
F. 0. BIRKBECK TERRY.
HOGG AND TANNAHILL. — According to Mother-
well, in the 'Harp of Renfrewshire,' Hogg was
Tannahill's guest for one night in Paisley, and
Tannahill accompanied him the following day
" half way to Glasgow." The writer of the notice
of Tannahill in ' Chambers's Encyclopaedia,' 1892,
adopts this statement, and continues (without
acknowledgment) in Motherwell's words : "It
was a melancholy adieu Tannahill gave him. He
grasped his hand, tears gathering in his eyes the
while, and said, ' Farewell, we shall never meet
again ; farewell, I shall never see you more.' "
" Prophetic words soon to be verified," adds the
encyclopaedist in his own person. David Semple,
Tannahill's best editor and biographer, says that
Hogg was in Paisley only part of one day, and that
while there he was in the company not only of
Tannahill but of R. A. Smith, the musical composer,
William Stuart, James Barr, and two unnamed
casual acquaintances. Barr had stayed the previous
night with Tannahill ; and, as he was in business in
Glasgow, he accompanied Hogg thither after there
had been a short convivial adjournment, in the
course of which, Tannahill wrote afterwards, Hogg
bad spoken a good deal of Scott, Hector Macneill,
Thomas Campbell, and other Scotsmen of note.
Semple bases his account on Barr's report of the
incidents, and he entirely discredits the " prophetic
words," of which Barr makes no mention. Still
they may have been uttered in Hogg's hearing
only ; and Motherwell says Hogg himself was his
informant. It would appear, however, that there
is no ground for the current belief, fostered by this
pathetic narrative of Motherwell's, that Hogg
journeyed from home expressly to see Tannahill
and stayed a night with him. He had been re-
turning from the Highlands, and had diverged into
Paisley for an hour or two before going forward
to get the homeward coach at Glasgow.
THOMAS BAYNE.
Helensburgh, N.B.
"BAZZOMY." — This West-country word, meaning
purplish, livid, is not quite so strange as it looks.
"How bazzomy a corpse do get 'bout the faace
arter a water death," says a speaker in E. Phil-
pott's 'Lying Prophets,' 1897, p. 320. It is
nothing more than a broad provincial pronuncia-
tion of " beasomy," i.e., having the colour of the
" beasom," broom or purple heather, which in
Cornwall and Devon is called bazam or bazzom.
The ' English Dialect Dictionary ' would have done
well to give a cross reference from bazzom to besom,
as the connexion may not strike every one.
A. SMYTHE PALMER, D.D.
SLANG IN THE HOUSE OF LORDS. — Lord Clifden,
speaking on 28 May, remarked that they had got the
Government " on toast " for once. He added that,
if he might use a vulgar expression, he should say
that the wild Irish had been "got at." "On
toast," therefore, would seem to require no apology.
Once on a time Mr. Bernal Osborne's use of the
expression "being sat upon" caused some com-
ment in another place. But we have progressed
since then. KILLIGREW.
JOHN WITHENS. — The Rev. Canon Morris,
F.S.A., contributes a short paper on this Chester
worthy to the new part (vol. vi. N.S., pt. i.) of
the Journal of the Chester Antiquarian Society.
He gives certain particulars of him and a copy of
the brass to his memory in Battle Abbey. I am
further able to say that he was a foundation scholar
of the Chester King's School from 29 Sept., 1548,
to 29 Sept., 1552, and was brother of William
Withens, Sheriff of London.
T. CANN HUGHES, M.A.
Lancaster.
" DALLY." — Thanks to Dr. Murray, we now
know that this English word is derived from the
Anglo-French and Old French dalier, to converse,
chat, pass one's time in light social converse ; see
1 Gloss, to N. Bozon ' (ed. P. Meyer). I think we
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can go a step further back. I think dalier may be of
German origin . Schmeller's ' Bavarian Dictionary*
gives us : " Dalen, to speak or act like little
children "; with two good examples. One is the
proverb : " Alte Leute muez man dalen lassen,"
we must let old folks prattle. The other is from
Hans Sachs, 1560, v. 364 : " Er dalet wie eine
alte Hetz," he chatters like an old magpie.
WALTER W. SKEAT.
We must request correspondents desiring information
on family matters of only private interest to affix their
names and addresses to their queries, in order that the
answers may be addressed to them direct.
"HARVESTRY": " HARVEYISED."— Some recent
dictionaries say harvestry is used by Swinburne.
I should like the quotation and (or) reference. I
also want the full name of the inventor of the
process of hardening steel, called harveying or
harveyizing. J. A. H. MURRAY.
Oxford.
"CAPPEL-FACED."— In Hardy's ' Under the
Greenwood Tree,' pt. ii. ch. viii., there occurs
the expression, " As mad as a cappel-faced bull,"
put into the mouth of a Dorset peasant. We are
told that " cappel-faced " means having a face with
a white muzzle. Can any one explain how it is
that "cappel" means a white muzzle? Is the
word known in this sense outside Dorset ?
THE EDITOR OF
'THE ENGLISH DIALECT DICTIONARY.'
Clarendon Press, Oxford.
COL. GALATIN. — I seek to know when Col.
Galatin, or Gallatin, joined the army, his regiment,
what active service he saw, when he retired, and
when and where he died. In 1751 he was
stationed at Musselburgh, in 1753 at York, in
1755 in Canterbury, and afterwards at Norwich
and in London. K. BUTTERWORTH.
THE ROMANCE or THE THREE LEMONS. — Could
any of your readers inform me where I might find
the original of the old romance of the three lemons
(or oranges) ? I mean, of course, in verse, and not
Gozzi's fairy tale. ROMANTICIST.
' FRIENDS IN COUNCIL.' — We sometimes believe
too rashly in " keys " to novels and other writings ;
therefore in reading ' Friends in Council ' and its
companions, I have hitherto been content with the
obvious conclusion that Mr. Milverton meant Sir
Arthur Helps, the author. But in my last reading
I suddenly perceived that the name of Sir John
Ellesmere, late Attorney General, was as obviously
a variation of that of Sir John Earslake, late
Attorney General; also that Sir John Ellesmere
speaks of "his successor Sir Robert," and Sir
Robert Collier actually did succeed Sir John Kars-
lake. Is there, then, after all a " key " to * Friends
in Council,' ' Realmah,' &c. ?
C. F. S. WARREN, M.A.
Longford, Coventry.
T. G.— The library of the Scottish College in
Valladolid has no catalogue, though its rival in the
English College has. It contains a volume called
" Catholicks no Idolaters, Or a Full Refutation Of
Doctor Stillingfleet's Vnjust Charge of Idolatry
Against the Church of Rome Printed in the
Year 1672." It begins with an " Epistle Dedica-
tory to the Queen" (the unburied Catherine of
Braganga), signed T. G. Who was he ? Where
were these two volumes printed ? PALAMEDES.
BELIEF. — Henry, Lord Brougham, in his in-
augural address as Lord Rector of the Glasgow
University, broached the irresponsible view of
belief. In what collection of his works or speeches
can a report of this address be found ?
GEORGE WHITE.
Ashley House, Epsom.
" PYROGKAPHY." — I was recently shown a pic-
ture— the familiar one of Eli and the child Samuel
— extremely well done. On the back of the board
was burnt in " Smith, Pyrographic Artist, 1816,
London." I should be much obliged for any
information about this artist or his work. Is it of
any value ? WM. NORMAN.
JEW'S HARP: JEW'S TRUMP. — In *N. & Q.,'
1st S. i. 277, DR. E. F. RIMBAULT said that a
Jew's harp is mentioned by (? in) Haklny t, and a
Jeu-trompe (Jew's trump) by Bacon. Unhappily
he did not in either case give reference. I shall
be much obliged to any one who will supply the
references, or either of them. C. B. MOUNT.
14, Norham Koad, Oxford.
THE EARL OF BEVERLEY. — Who was the Earl
of Beverley living about A.D. 1700 to 1730?
Elizabeth, the widow or daughter of the earl,
married about 1735. She was a staunch Papist,
whose identity had to be kept secret, as her husband
had business contracts from the Protestant Govern-
ment. The Earl of Beverley was said to be exiled
and his estates confiscated on account of his adher-
ence to the Stuarts and Papists. I can find no
mention in Burke's * Extinct Peerage.' But
perhaps it was a Jacobite title, or an honorary
title used by an elder son. W. G.
THOYTS. — Who was Samuel Thoyts, of Erith
and London, yeoman ? He had a son Samuel,
baptized about 1673, probably in London.
E. E. THOYTS.
"ToM, DICK, AND HARRY': "JACK, TOM,
AND HARRF." — With whom did these phrases,
denpting any three (or more) representatives of the
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populace taken at random, originate ? Under
" Dick," the ' New English Diet.' has quoted from
the Daily News of 17 Nov., 1891, "The only
bears still extant are the Tom, Dick, and Harry
of the Bourses." Mr. Farmer (s. v. "Harry")
quotes from Stevenson's ' Kidnapped ' (1891,
p. 287) : " He rode from public house to public
house and shouted his sorrows into the lug of
Tom, Dick, and Harry." Coleridge, in 1814,
wrote ('Letters/ ii. 635), "Jack, Tom, and
Harry have no existence in the eye of the law,
except as included in some form or other of .the
permanent prosperity of the realm." Is S. T. O.'s
phrase known elsewhere in literary or colloquial
English ? Any literary instances of either phrase
will be of service to the * N. E. D.' O. V.
Oxford.
WONERSH.— This is the name of a parish situ-
ated a few miles to the south-east of Guildford.
A person in the neighbourhood told my sister that
the real meaning of the word was " one ash," which
is probably merely a guess, and may be commended
as such to Prof. Skeat. But can any of your
readers give the true origin of the name 1 Brayley
says ('History of Surrey,' vol. v. p. 146) that it
" is variously written in ancient records as Ognersh,
Ignersh, Wonherch, Wonhursche, and Woronish ;
possibly a corruption of Warrenhurst. " Does not
the first of these forms give rather the notion of an
oak than an ash, if we must have a reference to
trees, which should be in the first part of the word ?
W. T. LYNN.
Blackheath.
SILVER MEDAL.— Can any of your readers give
me information about a silver medal in my posses-
sion ? The medal is a little smaller than our
modern florin, and relates to Lord Darnley, husband
of Mary Stuart. On one side is a full-length man's
figure, dressed in robes bordered with fleurs-de-lis,
around him is a scroll supported by two lions, and
on the scroll appears to be " Father to Kin: James
Henry Lord Dar Kin of Skott." On the reverse
side a shield, a fess cheeky, with a label in chief,
and engraved round it, " Died at the ace of 21
1567 + Buried at Edenbourv."
EMILY S. MARSHALL.
RUNNING CAMP.— This was the name of a
narrow thoroughfare in old Cardiff. The ancient
houses on both sides of it were demolished some
thirty years ago— and none too soon, for Running
^amp was little better than an open sewer by that
time, and the cholera was about. Can any one
help me to the etymology of this curious street-
na-me? JOHN HOBSON MATTHEWS.
Town Hall, Cardiff.
*;"In a volume of th« Fi«t Series of
JN. & Q. the late CDTHBERT BEDE, B.A., in
writing of Baxter at Kidderminster, in reply to
some remarks from MR. BE A LEY, speaks of " C aid-
wall Hall," in Kidderminster, and says that he
saw an old map of Kidder in which the castle was
depicted with eight towers. Now there is only one
left. I should be glad to hear from any of your
readers what map it was, and where it could be
seen. And can any one tell me why and when
the castle was demolished ? H. R. CLARK.
Sydney.
1 ARMORIAL FAMILIES.' — The editor of this
imposing work has challenged the discovery of any
non-armigerous entry within its covers. I am
much exercised as to the propriety of the insertion
of Acton of Gatacre, p. 10, and of Bassett of Bonvil-
ston, p. 74. Your readers will no doubt be glad
to receive in your columns the authorities on which
the editor relies, more especially as he has thrown
down the gauntlet in his preface. X. X.
SLAVONIC NAMES. — In studying the liberty and
geography of the Balkan States one continually
comes across names of the type Sarajevo (capital
of Bosnia), Giurgevo (port in Roumania), Kossovo
(the battle in which Servia lost her independence),
&c. Can any reader inform me if there is any
general rule as to the accentuation of these and
similar names ; also the meaning of the termination
evo, ovo ? WM. RICHARDSON.
Stroud Green, N.
DOG-GATES. — In the Strand Magazine for March
last (p. 360) is a photograph of a pair of dog-gates
at Slyfield Manor, Bookham, Surrey. The letter-
press states that " there are very few of these left
in England. Dog-gates were, in the time of Eliza-
beth, placed at the foot of the staircase to prevent
the dogs of the household from straying into the
apartments upstairs." It would be interesting to
have more particulars of these dog- gates, and to
have recorded the names of any other houses where
these relics of the past are preserved. Can any of
your readers supply the information ?
A. C. W.
'NATURE': 'THE BIBLE OF NATURE.'— In the
early part of this century there were certain books
published with the titles of ' Nature ' and ' The
Bible of Nature. ' There were two volumes of the
latter ; they were written by one who had no faith
in a future life. The writer's name was Stewart ;
he travelled much — indeed was, I believe, con-
stantly travelling, and on foot ; so much and so
constantly did he travel that he went by the name
of 'Walking Stewart." I remember hearing or
read ing years ago that Stewart carried about with him
always a small quantity of poison, sufficient to put
an end to life, as he desired only to live so long as
existence was pleasurable. Can any of your readers
tell whether this was so, or when, where, and how
he died ; and also whether the works he wrote and
published have any value ? E. A. C.
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489
MILKING SYPHON. — In Seren Gomer, a Welsh
monthly periodical for August, 1836, there is a
paragraph, stated to be a translation from an Eng-
lish newspaper unnamed, to the following effect : —
" We were much pleased on Tuesday last at a meet-
ing in Withington, near Uttoxeter, composed of farmers
and others, convened by William Burton, Esq., a well-
known farmer residing there, for the purpose ot showing
and describing his new invention for milking cows."
The paragraph then gives a brief description of the
invention as a metal pipe on the same principle
as those used to raise water without emptying or
mixing it, and it was claimed that sixteen cows
could be milked with this syphon in the same time
as six could be in the ordinary way. Is this in-
vention in use at present ? If not, what became
of it? D. M. E.
THE BISHOPRIC OF OSSORT. — What is the origin
of the name of Ossory, in Ireland ? One of the
titles connected with the Butlers ? Was it a cor-
ruption of Isore", near Caen, viz., Abbey of St.
Marie of the Val Isor6, fief of Geofrey ? I believe
there is a place of this name, Ossery, in Leicester-
shire. T. W. CAREY.
CHENEY GATE. — Passing through East Cheshire
I noticed the name "Cheney Gate," the name of
several public-houses, and am informed there is a
gate in Chester of the same name. Can you give
the origin of the name ? One of our old streets is
known as " China Lane," which is a corruption of
" Cheyne Lane " as on old plans.
A. SATTERTHWAITE.
Lancaster.
INDUCTION AT DORKING, CIRCA 1622. — Under
"Varia," in the Church Times of 21 May, the
genial u Peter Lombard " writes as follows : —
" Here is a curiosity, an entry in the Dorking parish
register of the induction of a vicar in 1622. 'Accepi
clavein, intravi solus, oravi, tetigi sacra, pulsavi campanas
in nomine Patris, et Filii, et Spiritus Sancti. Secundo
die Maii, Anno Dni, 1622.' The ' tetigi sacra ' is new to
me, the rest remains even so now."
I shall be glad of any information concerning
tetigi sacra, the exact meaning of the words being
to me at present somewhat obscure.
JOHN T. PAGE,
West Haddon, Northamptonshire.
DE MEDICI.— What were the dates of birth,
marriage, and death of Victoria, the wife of Fer-
dinand II. de Medici ? Anderson, ' Royal Genea-
logies ' tables 426 and 427, is hopelessly confusing.
0. S. WARD.
Wootton St. Lawrence, Basingstoke.
PENINSULA MEDAL. — Carter's 'War Medals,'
enlarged by Long, informs us that of the Peninsula
medal only two were issued with the bars " Fort
Detroit " and " Chrystler's Farm." To whom were
they issued ? I wrote to Mr. Long, but he died
before my letter reached him. His son replied
that he regretted he could not trace the matter
among his father's papers. Perhaps some reader
of * N. & Q.' can supply the information. I once
heard that a medal with these two bars and
" Chateauquay " was stolen in this country ; but
in view of the corps in these engagements I ques-
tion its truth. DAVID Boss McCoRD, Q.O.
Montreal,
"EYE-RHYMES" IN THE POEMS OP SURREY
AND WYATT.
(8th S. xi. 161, 253, 294, 357, 413.)
Since writing my article I have missed reading
several numbers of * N. & Q.,' and have only just
discovered, from MR. INGLEBY'S note at the last
reference, that a small discussion had arisen on the
question of "eye-rhymes" and ' true rhymes."
With regard to the remarks of 0. C. B., ante, p.
253, one feels inclined to ask your correspondent
to read what Mr. Ellis and Mr. Sweet have to
say upon English pronunciation before venturing
to write on the question. C. C. B. says he has
heard such pronunciations as " lors " (laws) and
" Jawdan " (Jordan). What he means by this I do
not know ; but just as few educated people pro-
nounce an r sound in "Jordan," so I believe
but few uneducated ones do so in "law." In the
mouths of most polite speakers " law ' rhymes
with " Jor-. " In a further note at page 357, C. C. B.
remarks," We preserve, I think, generally speaking,
the true sound, that of a trilled liquid, one of the
most musical sounds which our alphabet can boast,
and we call such rhymes as those MR. INGLEBT
defends [namely, born, dawn, &c.] 'cockney
rhymes.'" I cannot help the unfortunate terms
that C. C. B. and his friends may choose to apply
to things which they dislike, but never was a word
less happy than the term "cockney" in this
instance— it means absolutely nothing ; and to
speak here of double-Dutch rhymes would not be
less felicitous. One might also point out that an
" alphabet " can scarcely be said to " boast " of
" sounds." An alphabet is merely a set of con-
ventional symbols, which may represent severally
any sound or sounds agreed upon by the people
who use them. Unfortunately people are not
agreed upon the exact nature of the sounds which
are hidden rather than expressed by our present-
day English spelling. ,
In conclusion, let me call the attention of C. O. J5.
to the fact that Matthew Arnold in " The New
Syreus,' and Mr. Swinburne in 'Before Dawn,'
both use the rhymes complained of, the former
having "dawning— morning," the latter "warning-
dawning." To accuse these great poets of cockney
errors must be left to the numerous class of people
who rush in where angels fear to tread. On the
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other band, it may be of interest to remember that
D. G. Rossetti once altered the rhymes "arm—
palm " because Tennyson disapproved them,
cannot at this moment give a reference for this
statement, but I believe it is recorded in Mr.
William Michael Rossetti's life of his brother
which appeared the year before last.
Since my communication upon Surrey and
Wyatt, I have learnt that Turner in his * Five
Hundred Points of Good Husbandrie' (1573)
carries the practice of manufacturing eye-rhymes
to an almost incredible extent. His pages abound
with spellings like " weight " (wait) to rhyme with
"eight," "thease" to rhyme with "ease" "feere"
(fire) to rhyme with " Janiveere " (January).
HT. CECIL WYLD.
Oxford.
MR. INGLEBY misapprehends, and consequently
misrepresents me. I nowhere refer to "some
standard of pronunciation,'7 either in the Midlands
or elsewhere ; but, contrariwise, I question whether
we have in English any fixed standard at all. My
reference to the pronunciation of the Midlands
was obviously to the native pronunciation, which
I believe, though I do not positively affirm it, is
more nearly in agreement with the original, and
the philologically correct, sound of the letter r than
that of the Southern counties. I mentioned the
" educated society " of the south simply because I
am not acquainted with the native speech.
With the speech of educated people, both in the
Midlands and elsewhere, MR. INGLEBY may be
better acquainted than I am, but I am not without
some knowledge of English poetry, and I do not
think my opponent will find many, if any, such
rhymes as he defends in any of our greater poets
from Chaucer to Wordsworth. In Byron he may
find them, for Byron was careless, and had not a
good ear for the niceties of verse ; and in the first
volume of Keats (who was born a cockney as well
as a poet) there are a good many ; but in 'Endymion'
there is but one,* and in the later poems published
during the poet's life not one— a fact, surely, of some
significance. MR. INGLEBY thinks that Gray
and Tennyson pronounced "horn" hawn. Can he
find in either poet a single rhyme to support his
opinion ? In Gray I know he cannot, and I do not
think he can in Tennyson.
In my last note I said that the poet, being an
artist in words, is bound to choose the most musical
words he can, and to use every word so as to bring
out fully all the music there is in it. MR. INGLEBY
construes this almost as if I had said, " all the
music there is not in it." He represents me as
saying that the poet is bound to " distort " words
from their ' orthodox " pronunciation — which
* Besides this there are the rhymes " Cytherea— ear "
and " forth— both " ; but these are not strictly cases in
point.
means, I suppose, to make them yield a music they
were never meant to yield — though my contention
was that to retain something of the r sound in the
words under discussion is the "orthodox" pro-
nunciation. (By the way, MR. INGLEBY here uses
this word " orthodox n to signify the pronunciation
now current in good society ; in a note on p. 410
he applies it to the original, the philologically cor-
rect, pronunciation. Is this quite consistent ?) My
real meaning — and I think it was clearly expressed
— was that the poet should seek to conserve what-
ever beauty, of sound, or meaning, or association,
there is in words — as, for instance, by retaining the
open i in wind, as most of our contemporary poets
besides Swinburne do ; and by eschewing such
barbarisms as indecorous (see p. 410 again),
sontirous, and the like — and by the most felicitous
collocation of sounds to bring out the music that
in our common, careless speech is often missed.
Now there is, after all, an r in horn, and — unless I
have misread the grammarians, from Ben Jonson
downwards, as perversely as MR. INGLEBY misreads
me — it was formerly the universal custom to sound
it. And if MR. INGLEBY does not see that the
fainter sound of the letter in this word, echoing its
stronger sound in the preceding words, in the
verses I quoted from Gray and Tennyson —
The cock's shrill clarion or the echoing horn ;
0 sweet and far, from cliff and ecar,
The horns of Elfland faintly blowing-
was intended to add beauty to the verse, and does
it — why, there is simply nothing more to be said.
MR. YARDLEY is quite right. If I may say so,
poets have frequently been too fond of "liquids."
Every good thing, however, may be abused.
0. C. B.
There is a line of Virgil which has eighteen
liquids ; and I think that no line could have
more: —
Monstrum horrendum, informe, ingens, cui lumen
ademptum." « ^Ineid,' book iii. 1. 658.
Another line of Virgil has but two :—
Dives equum, dives pictai' vestis, et auri.
''
book ix. 1. 26.
But I think that the line with two liquids in it has
more euphony than the line with many.
Horace has sixteen liquids in
Coelum non animurn mutant qui trans mare currunt.
Milton has fourteen in
Will send for all my kindred, all my friends.
'Samson Agonistes/
E. YARDLEY.
Can MR. HOLCOMBE INGLEBY give a reference
to any rhyme such as born and dawn in Shake-
speare, Milton, Wordsworth, Tennyson or Swin-
burne 1 There are many people in what he calls
' the body of educated society whose seat is in
London " who drop the final g in talking so that it
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is difficult to accept their pronunciation as a stan-
dard, even assuming it to be as alleged. I believe
that the question is almost entirely one of ear.
The other day I asked three educated men — neither
of whom speaks with any provincial accent —
whether born rhymed with dawn or not. Two said
that it did not, the other that it did ; but it was
proved by experiment that whereas I and the two
who were on my side could always easily distinguish
such words as taught and tort, our opponent was
unable to do so. HORACE WM. NEWLA.ND,
[Has not Mr. Swinburne larr'd on- aa a rhyme to
garden ?]
THE 39TH FOOT (8th S. xi. 265),— I have just
seen the note at the above reference. As a general
rule it is wisest to take no notice of the anonymous
critic, whose ignorance of the subject he proposes
to illuminate is equalled only by the dogmatism
with which he sets it forth. Had CENTURION,
therefore, confined himself to misstating the his-
torical facts he deals with, I should have abandoned
him to the contemplation of his own infallibility.
It is because, by the discredited device of detach-
ing a sentence from the context, he labours to
show that I have made light of the services of the
39th that I am led to question his qualifications for
his self-imposed task.
The paragraph in which the sentence occurs was
devoted to a plea for some such recognition of the
services of regiments which have fought heroically
against impossible odds, and failed, as is bestowed
on those who have fought against odds not im-
possible, and conquered. The 39th and the 44th
were selected, amongst others, as illustrations,
because they presented the desired contrast of
regiments which had gained distinction in the East,
when unsupported by any other European bat-
talions, in renowned contests which had terminated
the one successfully, the other in disaster. This,
of course, is the exact reverse of endeavouring to
deprive the 39th of "their well-earned glories."
Surely CENTURION can see that it is quite possible
to think that the 44th were called on to display
greater heroism in the retreat from Cabul than the
39th on the field of Plassy without in any way
minimizing the services of the latter.
In what follows, however, CENTURION makes it
perfectly clear that he belongs to that order of intel-
ligence which can only exalt one man by debas-
ing his neighbour. He opens his rebutting argu-
ment with a definition of heroism which is so
extraordinarily inept that if it had any value at all
it would be destructive of his own case, since the
39th at Plassy were neither making a "defence
when escape was impossible " nor rescuing " a be-
leaguered garrison" ; and this definition he supports
by a series of dogmatic statements with regard to
the retreat from Cabul which can only be described
as ludicrous.
"The sole survivor," he writes, " was Dr.
Brydon, and we know almost nothing of what
occurred. " This is a pretty hardy statement, in the
face of the fact that (to mention two authorities alone)
Kaye's ' History ' contains thirty closely printed
pages of description, and the records of the 44th
thirty pages of evidence. As for Dr. Brydon being
the sole survivor, he was nothing of the sort : he
was the only man who reached Jellalabad in safety,
which is quite another thing. A document is in
existence, signed by those who at one time or
another fell into the enemy's hands and escaped
with their lives, and it is a pretty lengthy paper.
Many of those who signed it have left narratives of
what occurred so long as they were present, and
one of these narratives is from the pen of Lieut.
Souter, who saved the famous colour and was not
himself made prisoner until the final massacre at
the end of the retreat.
" My own father, for instance, lost his life in the
pass, but where he fell no one can say, and so it
was with all the rest." The answer simply is that
so it was not. Had it been so there would have
been nothing peculiar in it. The exact spot where
any but a very few officers have fallen in action
never is known. Can CENTURION point to the
spot where the four casualties in the ranks of the
39th at Plassy took place ; and, if not, does
that prove that we know nothing of what oc-
curred at Plassy? The information with respect
to the retreat of the 44th, however, is so full that
we have a list of the officers of the regiment,
showing the dates, and in many cases the places
and circumstances, under which they fell. In con-
nexion with this it is curious to note how an
apparently innocent expression can expose a writer's
ignorance. The expression "in the pass" makes
it quite evident that CENTURION was not exagge-
rating when he said that he knew " almost nothing
of what occurred " during the retreat.
One admission only he is prepared to make.
" Fight as gallantly as the 44th probably did," he
writes. To me it seems certain that most people
will prefer the testimony of the Peninsula veteran
who commanded the retreat as to how the 44th
fought to anything an anonymous letter-writer
may be good enough to deem " probable."
Such being CENTURION'S facts, it may be
imagined that the argument he founds on them is
not unassailable. He lays it down absolutely that
the retreat " is far from being a matter of the
smallest congratulation " — a judgment which seems
to me unnecessarily dogmatic, seeing that he has
only just assured us he knows " almost nothing "
about it. "It is idle," he is of opinion, "to
bracket the heroism of men fighting, however
bravely, for dear life, with a heroism that bore all
before it" at Plassy. I cannot possibly tell the
story here of that fight "for dear life"; I have
done so already, to the best of my ability, under
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the title ' The Pall of an Army,' in Tempk Bar; but
CENTURION'S knowledge of the history of retreats
must be peculiarly limited if he really thinks
there was nothing " exceptional " in the conduct of
the 44th during that from Oabul. His remarks
on Plassy induced me, however, to wonder if he is
particularly clear as to what did happen on " that
great day." Now what are the simple facts with
regard to that battle ? It was a victory the mili-
tary and political effects of which it would be
difficult to exaggerate, but it was not a battle
which placed any very gigantic strain on the
heroism of those engaged. The loss of the Euro-
peans, says Orme, was about twenty killed and
wounded, of whom sixteen were gunners. Nor
am I sure that the argument that they were not
fighting for life can be substantiated. The
clemency of SurajahDowlah, as illustrated by "the
Black Hole of Calcutta," was fresh in their
remembrance, and I doubt if there was a man in
the ranks who believed that he had anything better
to hope for in the event of defeat than that which
the 44th met with in their retreat.
There was no question whatever, except in the
heated imagination of CENTURION, of bringing the
victory and the retreat into line. The splendid
results of the one have no more to do with the
matter than the shameful bungling which com-
mitted the 44th to the latter. The plea raised was
simply one for some recognition of the services of
men who have not had the good fortune to be com-
manded by Marlboroughs, or Clives, or Wellingtons
— who have, on the contrary, through no fault of
their own, been called upon to face almost oertain
death without the hope of victory.
FREDERICK DIXON.
SHIP CONSTITUTION (8th S. xi. 367).—" History
of the Navy of the United States of America, by
J. Fenimore Cooper. Second edition, with cor-
rections, in two volumes. Philadelphia, 1840."
This is the only history of the navy of the United
States of America that covers the period of the
Revolution, 1775-83, and the building of the
frigate Constitution, forty-four gune, and her sub-
sequent career. It contains a complete statistical
history of the ship. Vide index for many refer-
ences. A scarce book. A copy may be found in
the Library of the British Museum.
SMITH E. LANE.
New York.
See the " Statistical History of the Navy of
the United States (1775 to 1853). Compiled by
Lieut. George F, Emmons, U.S.N., from the most
reliable Sources, under the Authority of the Navy
Department. Washington, Printed by Gideon
& Co., 1853." The above work is a concise his-
torical and technically statistical record of the U.S.
fleet for the period above given. Its compiler died
a rear admiral some years ago. Harper's Weekly,
of New York, had matter relative to the Constitu-
tion in late numbers. A fine engraving of the
ship, under full sail, has been issued lately. See,
also, Cooper's, Eoosevelt's, Maclay's, Barnes's, and
others' works on our navy. In vol. xix. p. 152
et seq. of the Pennsylvania Magazine of History
and Biography for 1895 is given the journal
of her surgeon, Amos A. Evans, containing his
account of her cruises in the war of 1812, descrip-
tion of captures of the Guerriere and Java, &c.
The magazine is issued quarterly by the Pennsyl-
vania Historical Society, at its hall in Locust
Street, Philadelphia. This famous ship was built
by Joshua Humphreys (by-the-by, his son Samuel
was also Chief Naval Constructor to the U.S. Navy
down to 1846), a Pennsylvania!! of ancient Welsh
extraction, as can be seen by reference to ' Merion
in the Welsh Tract,' by Thomas A. Glenn, of
Ardmore, Pa. I will add that this book, published
in 1896, is valuable not only to Pennslyvania
Welshmen, but also to native Cymry, since it not
only gives, but amplifies and corrects, some of their
ancient pedigrees. P. S. P. CONNER.
HORACE WALPOLE AND HIS EDITORS (8th S. xi.
346). — In two letters, dated respectively 24 July
and 5 Aug., 1746 (Cunningham's edition, vol. ii.
pp. 38 and 46), Horace Walpole refers to a certain
Mrs. Bethel. Cunningham erroneously states in a
note (which does duty for both passages) that this
lady was "Anne, daughter of the first Lord
Sandy?, and wife of Christopher Bethel, Esq."
Anne Sandys, however, according to Collins's
* Peerage,' did not marry Christopher Bethel till
21 July, 1768 (i. e., twenty-two years after the
date of the letters in question), so that she, at
any rate, cannot be the person referred to. The
identity of the latter has yet to be established.
In a letter to Conway, dated 27 June, 1748
(Cunningham's edition, vol. ii. p. 114), Walpole
writes : —
*' There came a procession of Prince Lobkowitz'a foot-
men in very rich new liveries, the two last bearing
torches; and after them the Prince himself leading
Madame I'Ambassadrice de Venise They went into
one of the Prince of Wales's barges," &c.
Between the words "Prince" and "himself
Cunningham, without any justification, interpolates
in brackets [of Wales]. The "Prince himself"
is, of course, Prince Lobkowitz, who was pre-
ceded by his own servants, and had no doubt
borrowed for the occasion (a fete des adievx) a
barge belonging to the Prince of Wales.
In a letter to Conway, dated 23 June, 1752
(Cunningham's edition, vol. ii. p. 290), Walpole
writes, " Lord Falkland is to marry the South wark
Lady Suffolk." Wright, in his note on this passage,
states that this lady was the "Duchess Dowager of
Suffolk." Cunningham, though he rightly points
out that this Lady Suffolk was a "junior dowager,"
yet oddly enough allows Wright's erroneous de-
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scription of the lady to stand. The Lady Suffolk
in question was the widow of the tenth Earl of
Suffolk.
In a letter to Lord Hertford, dated 8 June, 1764
(Cunningham's edition, vol. iv. p. 247), Walpole
mentions the fact of Lady Elizabeth Keppel
receiving a note from "the Duchess of Marl-
borough." After this name Cunningham inserts
in brackets in the text [the Duke of Bedford's
sister]. This interpolation again involves a mis-
take, the Duchess of Marlborough in question
being not the Duke of Bedford's sister, but his
daughter, viz., Lady Caroline Russell, who had
married the Duke of Marlborough two years pre-
viously (23 Aug., 1762). HELEN TOYNBEE.
Dorney Wood, Burnham, Bucks.
UNICORN EMBLEM AND HORN (8th S. xi. 422).
— For an account of the unicorn as conceived by
our Elizabethan forefathers see Miss Phipson's
'Animal Lore of Shakespeare's Time.' Shake-
speare himself mentions the creature three times
at least, viz., in « The Tempest' (III. viii.), in
* Timon of Athens' (IV. iii.), and in 'Julius Caesar'
(II. i.).
A. B. G. does not refer to the supposed medi-
cinal virtue of the unicorn's horn. Culpeper,
following the opinion of his predecessors, says :
' Unicorn's horn resists poison and the pestilence,
provokes urine, restores lost strength, brings forth
birth and afterbirth." Webster ('The White
Devil,' II. i.) tells us how it was used as a charm
against poison : —
As men, to try the precious unicorn's horn,
Make of the powder a preservative circle,
And put in it a spider, so these arms
Shall charm his poison.
Among the British coins figured by Camden is one
(No. 12) which bears on the reverse side what
appears to be the figure of a unicorn, though
Camden says it is that of a lion. The inscription
is Ulatos, the meaning of which our antiquary says
he has sought in vain. C. C. B.
There is a small book on the unicorn by Thomas
Bartholinus, 1645. In 1886 Mr. Edmund Gold-
smid edited, in 4 vols., a collection of curious tracts
on the basilisk, unicorn, phoanix, &c. In the same
year appeared Mr. Charles Gould's ' Mythical
Monsters,' which also deals with the unicorn. There
is a long note in Delitzsch, ' Commentary on the
Psalms/ 1887, i. 450. W. 0. B.
In the time of James IV. of Scotland lived
Theilman Kerver, the French printer, famous for
his beautiful editions of Books of Hours of the
Virgin Mary. I do not know the date of the
earliest of these ; but I have one dated 1505, the
first page of which has a beautiful woodcut, with
dotted background, of his shield with two unicorns
as supporters. R. K.
Boston, Lincolnshire;
THIMBLE (8th S. xi. 424). — A most interesting
paper ' On Thimbles ' was read by Mr. Henry
Syer Cuming, F.S. A.Scot., before the British
Archaeological Association on 19 March, 1879, and
is printed on pp. 238-42 of vol. xxxv. of their
Journal. He there states that thimbles have been
found at Herculaneum, and may fairly claim an
antiquity of 2,000 years. He refers to the Dutch
origin mentioned by MB. PEACOCK.
T. CANN HUGHES, M.A.
Lancaster.
Probably the paragraph as to the invention of
the thimble by the Dutch in 1690 was derived
from Dr. Brewer's ' Phrase and Fable,' though in
the last edition of that work it is stated that the
Dutch invention was "introduced into England in
1695 by John Lofting, who opened a thimble
manufactory at Islington." Newspaper writers are
apt to take unquestioningly any statements from
such works as ' Phrase and Fable,' and so many
fables are disseminated, although the industrious
Dr, Brewer's handbooks have a very high value if
used with discrimination. JAMES HOOPER.
Norwich.
ST. PATRICK'S PURGATORY (8tb S. x. 236, 361,
463; xi. 229, 431).— "Why should a Danish
prince swear by St. Patrick ? " It may be worth
notice that the ancient and beautiful church of
Patrington, in Holderness, East Yorkshire, is dedi-
cated to St. Patrick, and formerly had a bell with
the same dedication. W. C. B.
THE REV. ARCHIBALD SYMMER (8th S. xi. 208).
— Copies of his works, 'A Spiritvall Posie for
Zion,' LondM 1629, and 'Rest for the Weary,'
1630, both small 4 to., are preserved in the British
Museum Library. The author is described as
Preacher of God's Word at Great Oakley, in
Northamptonshire, and Minister of the Gospel at
Aberdeen. DANIEL HIPWELL.
YIDDISH (8th S. xi. 428).— I have often been
asked the question put by IGNORAMUS, and may
therefore be forgiven if I extend somewhat the
editorial explanation given in brackets after the
query, all the more so as my knowledge is gained
at first hand from Yiddish speakers in London and
on the Continent, and is not, like my knowledge
of Shelta, derived from books. There are two
principal kinds of jargon spoken by Jews. Those
of Southern Europe use Spanish as a basis and
those of Northern Europe use German. With this
grammatical substructure (purely European) there
are mixed a quantity of Hebrew roots and not a few
vocables from other tongues, such as, in the case of
the Northern Jews, Polish or Russian. I really
know little of the Spanish variety (Ladino), although
I have heard it spoken in Seville by Jews from
Morocco. The German (Yiddish) may be heard any
day in Petticoat Lane, and seen, too, in the shape
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of advertisements of all kinds posted upon the
dead walls of that historic neighbourhood. It may
also be heard in New York, and the only grammar
we have of it in English appeared not long since
(I regret I have not the exact reference) in the
American Journal of Philology. From what I
have said it is clear that what I may call English
Yiddish can be manufactured by speaking English
with a large admixture of Hebrew words and
phrases. Of such a jargon there is a magnificent
record in a column called " Houndsditch Day
by Day" which once ran in the Sporting Times
for about a year. I had some acquaintance with
the learned author, and he told me Mr. Leland
had bought a complete file for the purpose of com-
piling the Leland and Barrere slang dictionary,
so that I and many others hoped that work
would contain quotations and explanations of
many Yiddish terms. We were disappointed,
and Yiddish still awaits adequate treatment,
IGNORAMUS may be interested to know that
Yiddish plays are often performed in London by
travelling Jewish companies. The Novelty Theatre,
in Great Queen Street, has had several. Some years
ago I paid many visits to an East-End Yiddish
theatre, which was open on Sundays as well as
weekdays ; but this I suppose was too Parisian
for our insular tastes — at any rate, it exists no
longer. JAS. PLATT, Jun.
CARRICK (8th S. xi. 287, 339, 411).— In Murray's
* Handbook for Northamptonshire and Rutland '
(1878), p. 172, the village of Crick is said to
derive its name from the A.-S. cerrig, a stone,
rock, or crag. Close by the village is a thickly
wooded hill known as the Craxhill. The latter
word would seem to be more clearly traceable
back phonetically to cerrig than even the name of
the village itself. Reference is also made in
Murray, under the same heading, to Cricklade,
Wilts, as being derived from the same source.
JOHN T. PAGE.
West Haddon, Northamptonshire.
POPULAR NAMES OP DRUGS (8th S. xi. 287, 337).
— Jago's 'Glossary of the Cornish Dialect' has
a couple of pages (324-5) giving the spelling of a
number of drugs from an actual Cornish manu-
script, where the spelling apparently represents,
in several cases, popular names for the drugs.
Perhaps this might be of some use for E.
D. M. R.
"ABRAHAM'S BOSOM" (8th S. xi. 67, 214).—
The following is an extract from a note on St. Luke
xvi. 22 in 'The Annotated Bible/ by the Rev.
J. H. Blunt :—
"Abraham's bosom]. This was the name by which
the Jews designated the intermediate condition of the
righteous souls in the state and place of the departed.
Thus the Maccabees are represented as saying to each
other, ' For when we' shall have suffered thus, Abraham
and Isaac and Jacob will receive us into their bosoms,
and all the fathers will praise us' (4 Mace. xiii. 14,
Cotton's ed.). The expression indicates nearness and
deafness, as when St. John speaks of the ' Only Begotten
Son, which is in the bosom of the Father ' (John i. 18) ;
and it may also be associated with rest, from the custom
of reclining at meals indicated by St. John when he
describes himself as ' leaning on Jesus' bosom ' at the
Last Supper (John xiii. ?3)."
CELER ET
There is a full discussion of this in Lightfoot's
' Horse et Talmudicse/ vol. iii., Gaudell's edition,
Oxford, at the University Press, 1859, pp. 167-72.
A cursory glance leads me to think that it was
derived from the Talmud. M.A.Oxon.
HOTHAM, OP DALTON (8th S. xi. 347,378).—
Fuller particulars of Charles Hotham, rector of
Wigan, will be found in Bridgeman's * Rectors of
Wigan,' Chatham Society's Series, and in « Diet,
Nat. Biog.,' vol. xxvii. C. W. S.
" CONSERVATIVE " AS A POLITICAL TERM (8th
S. vi. 61, 181 ; vii. 356). — In my previous con-
tribution on this subject, in which it was sought
to demolish the legend that Croker invented the
term Conservative as applied to a political party,
I was constrained to note that the first employ-
ment of it after the famous instance in the
Quarterly Review for January, 1830, was by
Croker himself, in a letter of 30 November of
that year. I now find, however, that Charles
Greville used it some days earlier, for in his
diary, under date 21 November, 1830, he wrote
the true prophecy : " Peel will be the leader of a
party to which all the Conservative interest of the
country will repair " (Greville's ' Memoirs,' vol. ii.
p. 69).
On the following 9 February the diarist noted,
in regard to Irish affairs, " a strong Conservative
demonstration " (ibid., p. 114) ; and three days later
he quoted from Southey's letter to Brougham,
already twice noted in this connexion, the phrase,
'You, ray lord, are now on the Conservative side,"
Greville adding that this "implied that the Chan-
cellor had not always been on that side " (ibid.,
p. 115), while on the 24th of the same month he
was hoping for the time when "the Conservative
forces of the country are called into action" (ibid.,
p. 120).
The word, in fact, was now coming so currently
into use among politicians that it was speedily heard
in Parliament; and over a year before the date to
which I had previously traced its employment at
Westminster. On 2 March, 1831 — the second
night of the historic debate upon the introduction
of the first Reform Bill — Macaulay went very near
it in the sentences (taken from a contemporary re-
port, but, curiously enough, omitted by the speaker
from his own revised version) : "I support the
measure, not merely as a measure of reform, but as
a measure of conservation...... Now, t say, is, the
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time to concede reform, not as a measure of revolu-
tion, but of conservation.''
But on the same night the word we now know
so well was twice used, Lord Morpeth observing :
" Between the two opposite extremes of uncom-
promising anti-reform on the one side, of destructive
reform on the other, lies one safe and steady path
•—that of Conservative reform." And Sir Charles
Wetherell — one of the most determined Tories of
the time — who followed Morpeth, taunted those
who supported the Bill for saying that "the Con-
servative principle is the principle of our system."
It is of special significance at the present
moment to contrast this taunt, uttered on the
occasion of the earliest use of the word in the
British Parliament, with the manner in which
that word has been most lately employed in the
Legislature of the United States. On 26 May of
the present year — the day of the official celebration
of our Queen's birthday — Mr. Milburn, the blind
chaplain of the Senate at Washington, offered the
following prayer at the opening of the proceedings,
which was ordered to be printed in full in the
official journal, and which deserves perpetuation
here : —
"O Thou wi'.u art King of Kings and Lord of Lords'
we bless Thee for the long and illustrious reign of Thy
servant the gracious Sovereign Lady Queen Victoria,
whose conduct and character as daughter, wife, and
mother, as well as illustrious Sovereign, have enshrined
her in the hearts and reverence of true-hearted men and
women around the world. May her last days be the best
and happiest of her life. So endow and guide the councils
of that realm, and of our own beloved country, that
hand in hand they may tread the path of conservative
progress to the goal of Christian civilization, until the
Prince of the kings of the earth, the first begotten from
the dead, shall become monarch of all hearts and all
lives in our race."
ALFRED F. BOBBINS.
HOLMBY (OR HOLDENBY) HOUSE, co. NORTH-
AMPTON (8th S. xi. 367).— I believe that the ground
plans of both Kirby Hall and Holdenby Palace
are to be seen in Sir John Soane's Museum. They
were both bnilt by John Thorpe at the cost of Sir
Christopher Hatton. I have long been on the
look-out for a painting or engraving of the original
Holdenby Palace, but at present I am not aware
of the existence of either. JOHN T. PAGE.
West Haddon, Northamptonshire.
A GOOD FRIDAY CUSTOM (8tb S. xi. 388).—
This is doubtless a relic of pre-Refortnation ritual
or popular use. The blessing of eggs at Eastertide
(not Passiontide) by bishop or parish priest was
common throughout Christendom, and still survives
in Catholic countries. The form for the benediction
of eggs may be found in the Boman Missal. On
these occasions the eggs are always coloured or
gilt, and are sent as presents to friends.
JOHN HOBSON MATTHEWS.
Town Hall, Cardiff.
* DUBLIN GAZETTE' (8* S. xi. 347).— Twelve
years ago ('N. & Q.,' 6th S. xii. 269) a corre-
spondent inquired where he could consult a file of
this publication ; to which, so far as I can trace,
no reply has been given.
EVERARD HOME COLEMAN.
71, Brecknock Eoad.
Copies of the Dublin Gazette for the years
1705/6-9, 1713-14, 1731-43, 1751-73, 1801-2,
1822, 1824, 1826, 1830-1, 1833-7, 1839 (2 vols.),
1841-4, 35 vols. fol. (Dub., var. annis), are pre-
served in the Library (Beading Boom) of Trinity
College, Dublin. DANIEL HIPWELL.
"FULLAMS" (8«" S. xi. 426).— This word has
always been a puzzle to me. I can take the
explanation further back than the ' Imperial Dic-
tionary,' to Grose ('Classical Dictionary of the
Vulgar Tongue '), who says : —
"Loaded dice are called fulhams by Ben Jonson
and other writers of hia time ; either because they were
made at Fulham, or from that place being the resort of
sharpers."
JULIAN MARSHALL.
I am afraid that the suggestion that " Fullams "
or "fullans"=full ones is not worth much. Some
time ago (' N. & Q.,' 7tB S. x. 248) I sought through
the medium of *N. & Q.' for light on the origin
of the term " Fulhams," meaning false dice. I
have paid considerable attention to the term, and
I am distinctly led to the conclusion that, in some
way or other, the place Fulham gave its name to
the false dice of the gambler. The explanation
which your correspondent gives from the ( Imperial'
Dictionary is verbally the same as that given by
the late Dr. Brewer in ' Phrase and Fable/ in the
' Encyclopaedic Dictionary,' &c.
The records of the parish plainly show that the
inhabitants of old did indulge in dice playing, to
say nothing of other evil practices, and that from
time to time offenders were "presented" at the
courts of the Lord of the Manor and amerced for
their gambling proclivities. This much I can
state for certain.
Nares, in his ' Glossary/ thinks that the term
is probably due to the dice being full or loaded
with some heavy metal, and finds no proof that
they were ever made at Fulham. It is not, he
thinks, very likely that gambling flourished "in
so quiet a village ; nor would such manufacture be
publicly avowed." Now, as I have just said, I
have ample evidence showing that gambling of
different kinds was practised.
Beyond the spelling "fullans," in the work
quoted by MR. BRADLEY, I know of no instance
where it occurs. On the other hand, I can give
your correspondent cases where, by Frenchmen,
the name of the place was written " Foulan " and
"Fullan." I have collected from the playwrights,
&c., various examples of the word ; in all cases
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NOTES AND QUERIES. [8* a XL j™ 19, -07.
the spelling is Fulham, Fullam, or Fullom. Thus
"fulhams" (Butler), "fullam" (Shakespeare),
" Fullam " (Ben Jonson), " Fulham " (G. Chapman),
"Fulloms" (R. Simpson), "fulloms" (Green's
' Art of Juggling '), " fullams " (Decker), " fullams "
(T. Nash).
W. Rowley, in 'A New Wonder,' 1632, has a
quibble on "Fullam "and "Putney," which sug-
gests the inference that he understood this cant
term to be due to the name of the parish.
Douce states that "Fullams" were chiefly made
at Fulham; see 'Complete Gamester/ p. 12, ed.
1676. CHAS. JAS. F&RET.
49, Edith Koad, W. Kensington.
<!L PBNSEROSO,' LL. 173-4 (8« S. xi. 247).— A
passage which has been placed in connexion with
the lines in Milton is the remark of Cornelius
Nepos on Cicero : —
"Sic enim omnia de studiis principum, vitiis ducum,
ac mutationibus Reipublicae perscripta sunt, ut nihil in
his non appareat; et facile existimari possit, prudentiam
quodammodo ease divinationem ; non enim Cicero ea
eolum, quas vivo se acciderunt, futura praedixit; sed
etiarn quse nunc usu veniunt, cecimt, ut vates."— 'Tit.
Pomp. Atticue.,' cap. 16.
ED. MARSHALL.
"NoT WORTH A TINKER'S CURSE" (8tu S. xi.
345, 452). — The quotation from the ' Slang Dic-
tionary' at the latter reference enounces a grave
etymological error. Curse is not a " corruption of
the old English word kerse, a small sour wild
cherry," whencesoever the slang lexicographer raked
up the word with its elaborate definition. For
Langland, inaccurately quoted withal, kerse cer-
tainly meant cress, as chiri or chirie meant cherry
(B text, pass. v. I. 161; pass. vi. 1. 296); and
about fifty years earlier than ' Piers Plowman' the
author of the * Alliterative Poems' wrote : "Anger
gayne2 J?e not a cresse," i. e., avails thee not a cress
(see ' N. E. D.' s. v. " Cress "). It is questionable,
too, if curse be a corruption of kerse at all. The
identity of the two words is a mere supposition.
On this subject Dr. Murray observes :
" In such phrases as • not worth a curse,' ' not to care
a curse,' the expression possibly comes down from the
Middle-English 'not worth a kerse (kers, kree).' But
historical connexion between the two is not evidenced,
there being an interval of more than 300 years [i. e., 1440-
1763] between the examples of the Middle-English and
the modern phrase ; and damn occurs as early as curse
[1760 : 'Not that I care three damns '], BO that the coin-
cidence may be merely accidental."
The association of tinker with the word is pro-
bably independent of any habit of cursing possessed
by tinkers, who are perhaps not more distinguished
in this respect than others of the lower classes-
sailors, for instance. Kather, I should think, it
arose from their being regarded as a worthless,
dissolute section of the community. Not only are
their swilling capabilities celebrated in proverbs,
but they are notorious for making new holes while
mending old. The very word tinker is expressive
of contempt; its addition to the phrase "not worth
a curse " intensifies, therefore, this sentiment, as if
we said " not worth the meanest rascal's curse."
I note, however, for the behoof of the specula-
tive, that the ' Encyclopaedic Dictionary ' contains
the term tinker's dam, defined as " a wall of dough
raised around a place which a plumber desires to
flood with a coat of solder." F. ADAMS.
106A, Albany Koad, Camberwell.
ETONIANIA (8th S. xi. 401).— There may be
readers who will like to have attention directed to
the record of an incident in a Bishop of Winches-
ter's career at Eton. It is related that the " last
of our Grand Prince Bishops," C. R. Sumner, when
a boy at Eton, wrote a sensational story, entitled
' The White Nun ; or, the Black Bog of Dromore.'
An Eton bookseller gave him 51. for the copyright,
and the story was published with a title-page that
ascribed it to the authorship of " A Young Gentle-
man of Note," the bookseller explaining to Sumner
that, " as everybody would see," he had described
him by spelling Eton backwards. See ' Life of
Charles Richard Sumner, D.D.,' by the Rev. G. H.
Sumner. F. JARRATT.
YEOMEN OP THE GUARD (8tb S. xi. 448). —
' N. & Q.,' 1st S. i. 440; x. 468, gives the meaning
of yeoman, and a long extract from the Gentleman's
Magazine, xxix. p. 408. The subject was again
discussed in 3rd S. viii. 286, 340, 419 ; ix. 436.
At the last reference it is asserted that there were
no troops specially called yeomen, but the Yeomen
of the Guard was a body-guard instituted by Henry
VII. when he ascended the throne (1485), fifty in
number, afterwards increased to one hundred, who
formed the nucleus of the first standing army in
England. They were picked men, of larger stature
than ordinary, every man being required to be six
feethigh, and were no doubt taken from the yeomen
retainers of the king's household.
EVERARD HOME COLEMAN.
71, Brecknock Road.
The history of this corps is briefly told, in an in-
teresting style, in Thoms's * Book of the Court,' p.
363. If H. has not yet seen this, he will find it
repay perusal. JOHN HOBSON MATTHEWS.
Town Hall, Cardiff.
THE ORDER OF THE BATH (8th S. xi. 387).-
The Order of the Bath was instituted by King
George I., the letters patent being dated 25 May,
1725, and a writ was issued 18 May, 1725,
notifying the intention to create the above Order.
Both the writ and the patent mention the Knight-
hood of the Bath, which title had been granted by
his predecessors, but there is no mention of an
Order, as we understand the word as used in the
Order of the Garter, &c. Most writers on the
subject endeavour to prove the Order existed at
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
497
an early date, but the evidence given to support
the claim is weak and doubtful. If the so-called
Knights of the Bath constituted an Order, it
seems strange that it had no statutes assigned it.
The robes were only worn on the day the knights
were created, and their number was indefinite ;
also when a vacancy occurred it was not filled up.
Such was not the case with the other Orders, either
English or foreign. It is stated that these knights
were made at the coronations of Kings Henry IV.
and V. , yet Sir Harris Nicolas informs us that they
are mentioned for the first time in the inventory of
the effects of King Henry V. (1413-22) ; but the
designation was not generally adopted until some
years after. The most reasonable conclusion is
that Henry IV. did not constitute a new Order,
but restored the ancient manner of making knights,
that is, such as are created with those ceremonies
wherewith knights-bachelors were formerly created
by ecclesiastics. The use of the bath in the cere-
mony of creating a knight is an ancient custom,
and was done as a symbol of purification of heart,
hence arose the title of the Bath.
JOHN RADCLIFFE.
PUBLIC-HOUSES (8"» S. xi. 427).— By 26 Geo.
II. c. 31, keepers of ale-houses were required
to enter iuto recognizances for the good conduct of
their houses. These recognizances were directed
to be returned to the clerk of the peace, who gener-
ally filed them and entered them in a register.
They were discontinued after the passing of 9 Geo.
IV. c. 64. I know that such registers are to be
found in the offices of the clerks of the peace for
the counties of Dorset and Gloucester. If they
are also to be found among the city records,
J. P. R. can obtain from them the information that
he desires. F. A. HYETT.
Painawick House, Gloucestershire.
See " The Carrier's Cosmography ; or, a Brief
Eelation of the Inns, Ordinaries, Hostelries, and
other Lodgings in and near London, where the
Carriers, Waggons, Footposts, and Higglers do
usually come from any Ports, Towns, Shires, and
Counties of the Kingdoms of England, Principality
of Wales : as also from the Kingdoms of Scotland
and Ireland," London, 1637, reprinted in * The
English Garner,' by Edward Arber, i. 223-244.
EVERARD HOME COLEMAN.
71, Brecknock Road.
The recognizances of persons admitted to public-
houses are preserved in the Middlesex Sessions
Rolls, and the signs of the public-houses would
probably be found in the same rolls. (* Middlesex
County Records,' i. 11). JOHN HEBB.
Willesden Green, N.W.
"HALIFAX SHILLING " (8th S. xi. 128,396).-
Under this heading is given an extract from
Ruding's 'Annals of the Coinage of Great Britain,'
in which it is stated that "The striking of provin-
cial coins began with the Anglesey penny in
1784," &c ; but I have a copper or brass coin — I
am not certain which — inscribed on one side "The-
Bvrrovgh-of Bland-ford. The-recorpo-ration," and
on the other u Far-thing-for the-vse of ye-Poore-
1669." The coin is about the size of a modern
farthing, in a very good state of preservation, the
letters all quite legible. H. A. ST. J. M.
WILKES (8th S. xi. 249, 454).— I have no
wish to persuade MR. ED. PHILIP BELBEN that
Mr. Welsby's account of Wilkes's saying, "God
forget you," &c., is the correct one, Mr. Welsby,
however, was a learned lawyer and an accurate
writer. MR. BELBEN'S own account is "impos-
sible." Fancy Wilkes interrupting Lord Thurlow
when he was speaking in the House of Lords with
such an exclamation ! Lord Brougham, in his
' Historical Sketches of Statesmen in the Time of
George III.,' title " John Wilkes," tells the story in
this way: —
" His exclamation, powerfully humorous, certainly, on
Lord Thurlow'a solemn hypocrisy in the House of Lords
is well known. When that consummate piece of cant
was performed, with all the solemnity which the actor's
incredible air, eyebrows, voice, could lend the impreca-
tion, ' If I forget my sovereign may my God forget me ! '
Wilkea, seated on the steps of the throne, eyeing him
askance with his inhuman squint and demoniac grin, mut-
tered, ' Forget you ! He '11 see you d— d first.' '
H. B. P.
Temple.
THE PRONUNCIATION OF EVELYN (8tn S. xi.
468). — Dean Burgon,in that delightful book 'Lives
of Twelve Good Men,' includes a biography of
Henry Octavius Coxe, "the large-hearted librarian"
of the Bodleian. The Dean quotes the following
he had received from a friend : —
" There was an irresistible drollery in Coxe's manner
which there is really no describing. Sitting opposite to
me at a large dinner-party (where all knew each other
passing well) he overheard me talking to ir.y neighbour
about ' John .Evelyn.' « Why do you call him Eve\yn 1 '
he exclaimed, sternly, across the table. I thought (so ran
the defence) that I had always heard the word so pro-
nounced. ' Humph ! ' (drily) ' that shows the kind of com-
pany you keep.' '
JOHN C. FRANCIS.
A CORNISH SUPERSTITION (8th S. xi. 384).
— This is doubtless a survival of the once wide-
spread belief that the toad had the power sympa-
thetically to draw out the poison of disease from
the body. Paracelsus expressly taught that it was
in this way a great help against the plague and
the bitings of venomous beasts. It is true he
recommended it to be first killed and well dried,
but the idea was the same. As regards " repul-
siveness," the Cornish remedy is not worse than
one I have heard of as being used for the cure of
"frog" in infants in this neighbourhood and else-
where—the making the child suck a live frog tied
498
NOTES AND QUERIES.
s. xi. JUNE 19, -97.
up in a linen bag ; nor than the treatment Salmon
and other practitioners of his time recommended
for this very disease of epilepsy. Among the
medicines they prescribed for it were calcined
moles, man's skull, filed, and various preparations
of beasts' and man's blood. C. C. B.
Ep worth.
DR. BEAUMONT (8th S. xi. 246, 413).— I venture
a guess that the lines quoted from Southey's
' Doctor ' may be by the Rev. Dr. Joseph Beaumont,
the author of * Psyche ; or, Love's Mystery ' (one of
the longest and queerest poems in the English
language), second and enlarged edition, 1702.
From its oddity, Southey is much more likely to
have read that book than anything written by the
American surgeon. I never saw Southey 's ' Doctor.'
R. R.
CAEN WOOD, HIGHGATE (8th S. xi. 384, 456).
— The woods at Highgate in which MR. HARRY
HEMS used to ramble as a child were either Bishop's
Wood, on the northern side of Hampstead Lane, or
Churchyard Bottom, on the road to Muswell Hill,
for the preservation of which a vigorous, and it
may be hoped successful, attempt is now being
made. Neither of these pieces of woodland had
any connexion with Ken Wood, which is the
private property of the Earl of Mansfield, and is
situated in another parish. Ken Wood Farm,
which adjoined the property to the west, has, I
think, always been known under that orthography.
W. F. PRIDEAUX,
SCIENCE IN THE CHOIR (8th S. xi. 349, 412). —
Some few years ago the tower of Leytonstone
parish church, Essex, was utilized as an observa-
tory by the Ordnance Survey. A large structure was
erected on the summit, and remained in position
for some time, attracting much attention. I have
often seen the Survey party taking observations
from church towers ; but I do not remember seeing
an elaborate structure erected for this purpose in
such a position before. JOHN T. PAGE.
West Haddon, Northamptonshire.
THE DERBY (8th S. xi. 447). — A correspondent
of * N. & Q.' has already explained that the Jockey
Club, at the Houghton meeting at Newmarket, fix
the various race meetings for the year, but arrange
that Easter week shall be free. See ' N. & Q.,' 4«"
S. iii. 503 ; iv. 20 ; 5th S. v. 207, 274, 298.
EVERARD HOME COLEMAN.
71, Brecknock Road.
OLD SCHOOL AT PARSON'S GREEN (8th S. xi.
447). — Albion House, Parson's Green, the school
to which MR. JEAEES refers, was pulled down
many years ago. It was situated on the east side
of the green, on the site of a once famous tene-
ment known as Stowtes. Towards the close of the
last century Albion House became a school, con-
ducted by the Rev. Mr. Waring. In 1797 this
gentleman was succeeded by Mr. William Maxwell,
who in 1813 enlarged the establishment by taking
the house adjacent on the north side. He con-
tinued the school till 1828, and was, therefore, the
master during the time that MR. JEAKES'S father
was a pupil there.
The house was eventually purchased by Mr.
John Daniel, of Parson's Green. This gentleman
pulled down Albion House, and built a more modern
structure on the site. This house still stands,
though in a tenantless and dilapidated condition.
I have in my Fulham collections a view of Albion
House, which I should be most pleased to show
your correspondent if he would care to call.
In my forthcoming * History of Fulham,' Albion
House will, of course, find a place. The school
had, I believe, some pupils who became men of
note, including Robert Banks Jenkinson, second
Earl of Liverpool, K.G. , Prime Minister. If MR.
JEAKES can give me any names of his father's con-
temporaries at the school, or possesses any records
whatever about it, he would confer a favour on me
if he would communicate.
CHAS. JAS. FERET.
49, Edith Koad, West Kensington, W.
FUNERAL CUSTOMS (8th S. xi. 204). — The custom
referred to by MR. HOLCOMBE INGLEBY seems to
prevail in Suffolk, where it is usual for the un-
married to be borne to their last resting-place by
the bachelors of the village, and the married by
the married men, though the custom cannot always
be strictly observed. F. C. BIRKBECK TERRY.
NOTES ON BOOKS, &0.
Memoirs of Christie's. By William Roberts, (Bell &
Sons.)
DURING one hundred and thirty years successive genera-
tions of Christies have been before the public as
auctioneers. From the first they occupied a position of
consideration, and before many years elapsed Christie's
became what it has since remained, an "institution."
Not at all particular was the firm at first as to what
class of property it dispersed. Its earliest sales included,
as Mr. Koberts tells us, from the records of the house,
almost every variety of property, from that of a builder
to that of a farmer. Coffins, barrel-organs, dripping-
pans, razors, and sedan-chairs passed under their hammer.
One time the lots to be sold consisted of pigs and poultry ;
another time, bay geldings. In turns they sold the stock-
in-trade of a Spitalfields weaver and that of an artificial
stone company, and in 1795 they disposed, for 247J. 16s.,
to the Duke of Queensberry, of " 72 tons of excellent
meadow-bay." Gradually what has long been their
specialty began to asaert itself, and they acquired what
is almost a monopoly of the sale of articles of art and
luxury. During the past century property of incredible
value has passed through their hands, and not a few of
those priceless collections which were once the pride
and glory of our great houses have, from the rooms in
King Street, been dispersed to the four quarters of the
8» S. XI. JOSE 19, W.)
NOTES AND QUERIES.
499
world. Strange, and to some extent ead and solemn, are
the lessons to be gathered from Mr. Roberta's book.
With these Mr. Roberts does not concern himself.
Neither will we. In the new shape the materials placed
at the disposal of Mr. Roberts by the firm whose his-
torian and eulogist he is remain memoires pour servir,
which future writers on England, social and aesthetical,
will be bound to consult. Fortunately the materials
themselves are abundant. Naturally they become in-
creasingly so as we approach modern times. The arrange-
ment of the book is chronological, undoubtedly the best
to adopt, seeing that one can, with the utmost facility,
trace the advance or retrogression in the demand for
certain works. Another advantage which attends this
arrangement is that when — which will very shortly be
the case — large additions have to be made, they can
take the form of a third volume ,and will not necessarily
involve the reshaping of what has already appeared.
The chief difficulty experienced by Mr. Roberts has
been to compress within reasonable dimensions the
immense amount of materials at his disposition. This,
as other portions of his task, he has executed with tact
and ability. He has written, moreover, as we can testify,
a work both interesting and agreeable to read ; has
shown judgment in the introduction of anecdote, and
resisted every temptation to overcharge. So handsomely
got up are, moreover, his volumes, that they will claim
a place in the withdrawing-room and the boudoir as
well as in the library. The illustrations add greatly to
their value. Those in the first volume include a print,
handsomely reproduced in colours from J. R. Dighton, of
the first James Chrietie. This is entitled ' The Specious
Orator,' and shows the auctioneer, hammer in hand, over
his desk, protesting against having to knock down a lot
for the mere trifle of 50,OOOJ. An engraving after the
portrait of the same man by Gainsborough, one from a
bust of the second James Chrietie by Behnes, views of
Christie's auction rooms by Rowlandson, a caricature
by Gillray, and a variety of other plates follow, together
with many illustrations in the text. Among the pictures
of which engravings are given are ' La Simonetta ' of
Filippino Lippi, a portrait of a young girl by Greuze,
the famous ' Crucifixion ' of Raphael, from the Earl of
Dudley's collection, a landscape of Hobbema, ' The
Halt of a Sporting Party ' of Wouverman?, the ' Mrs.
Oliver ' of Romney, a Lady Hamilton of the same,
the 'Hon. Mary Monckton' of Reynolds, the 'Mort-
lake' of Turner, and very many others. There are
besides numerous designs of objects from the Hamilton
Palace sale, &c., and some admirable reproductions of
Limoges enamel. No attempt has been made to review
Mr. Roberts's book, which, indeed, does not easily lend
itself to such a purpose. We compliment him, however,
on the accomplishment of his task, and we commend
his book to the attention of those who care to study for
themselves the lessons, not always easy to understand,
concerning public taste and — shall we say 1 — whim.
A Description of the Wordsworth and Coleridge MSS. in
the Possession of Mr. T. Norton Longman. Edited by
W. Hale White. (Longmans & Co.)
WE have here a work of much interest to students of
poetry. In the possession of Mr. T. Norton Longman
are four remarkable volumes of Wordsworth and Cole-
ridge MSS. The existence of these has been known to
scholars, and some of the various readings they supply
have been used by Prof. Knight in his latest edition of
Wordsworth. A description of the contents has now for
the first time been printed. A somewhat difficult task
is imposed upon the student, who is told that the volume
should be read by the side of copies of the ' Lyrical
Ballads ' of 1800 and 1802, and a copy also of the scarce
edition of the * Poems in Two Volumes ' of 1807, shortly
we are glad to hear, to be reprinted by Mr. Nutt, since
these works are very far from being within every one'a
reach. A recapitulation of the contents of the MSS. would
occupy almost as much space as the book now printed.
No more can, accordingly, be done than name a few
of them. In the first volume of MSS. is a letter by
Wordsworth, reprinted in facsimile, to Mr., afterwards
Sir Humphry, Davy, superintendent of the Pneumatic
Institution, Bristol. Davy was at that time a friend
of Coleridge and Southey, but personally unknown to
Wordsworth, who, however, expresses the delight it
would give him to see Davy and Tobin (a brother of
John Tobin) at his "little cabin." A letter to Biggs and
Cottle, with the conclusion of 'The Brothers,' is also
given in facsimile. Many other letters to Biggs and Cottle
follow. These are in the handwriting of Wordsworth
Coleridge, or Dorothy Wordsworth, and include many
corrections and new readings. No fewer than seventy*
one corrections for 'The Ancient Mariner' are given
Coleridge's MS. of ' Love,' supplying the stanza which
appeared in the Morning Post and has been reprinted
by Mr. Dykes Campbell, beginning
I saw her bosom heave and swell,
is also supplied in facsimile. Following volumes include
the copy for the printer of the 1802 edition of the
' Lyrical Ballads/ the variations in the different poems
being fully noted. Another facsimile consists of the
opening lines of the ' Ode on the Intimations of Im-
mortality.' On pp. 67, 68 of the present volume is a
poem entitled « The Tinker/ with a note to the effect
that it has never before been printed ; but it is men-
tioned by Dorothy in her 'Journal.' Very curioue
indeed, is the manner in which the MSS. are divided
between Wordsworth and Coleridge, showing, as Mr.
Hale White says, how intimate was the relationship"
between the two. and " how much the ' Lyrical Ballads '
of 1800 owed to love and friendship." Towards the end
of 1800, to which year most of the letters, many of them
undated, belong, Coleridge, with his wife and Hartley
spent three weeks at Dove Cottage with Wordsworth
and Dorothy. This was a second visit. After Coleridge
moved to Greta Hall, Keswick, the intercourse was as
constant " as if the three friends had been next door
to one another, and they discussed among themselves
almost every line of poetry produced." MS. 12, one of
the most interesting of the series, consists of the poem
of ' Michael ' down to the line
He was his comfort and his daily hope,
copied by Coleridge, and corrected principally by Words-
worth, though in part by Coleridge also. It supplies an
explanation of the omission by the printer of fifteen
lines. The task of showing the precise nature of the
new readings in the 'Lyrical Ballads' must be abandoned
as likely to lead us too far. We can but thank Messrs!
Longman for giving us the book, which we commend to*
the attention of all students of the two great poets.
Continuation of the Comte de Galalis. Translated bv
John Yarker. (Bath, Fryar.)
WE are very thankful for a translation— the first, so far
as we understand, that has been attempted — of the second
part of what is called ' The Comte de Gabalis.' Under
the title of ' The Count of Gabalis; or, the Extravagant
Mysteries of the Cabaliets/ an English translation was
issued in 1680, seven years after the death of the author
the Abbe du Montfaucon de Villara. Of ' Le Comte de
Gabalis,' first issued in France in 1670, a new translation
which we have not seen, was published by Mr. Fryar in
1886. From this clever satire upon the Rosicrucians
as students of literature are aware, Pope took the super-
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natural machinery of • The Rape of the Lock.' By what
must be regarded as an irony of fate, a book which in
reality laughed at magic and the pretentious of its pro-
fessors, and has for its satire been likened to the ' Provin-
cial Letters ' of Pascal, came to be accepted as the work
of a mage. His rather mysterious and violent death, and
the facts that the Church treated him as a freethinker,
suppressed his book, and inhibited him from preaching,
fostered the delusion. ' La Suite du Comte de Gabalis ;
ou, Nouveaux Entretiens sur les Sciences Secretes
touchant la Nouvelle Philosophic ' was published post-
humously in Amsterdam in 1715. It contains seven
dialogues between the Abbe and a certain pedant named
Janus Brunu?, an upholder of the Cartesian system, who
furnishes Villars with opportunity to attack the system
of Des Cartes. This is the book now first translated,
which we heartily commend to readers fond of works of
this class, which link themselves, to a certain extent,
with the writings of Beverland. What is mystical in the
volume is quite beyond our ken. This we leave to adepts
to explain. The work, it is said, commended itself
warmly to Mr. Hargrave Jenning?, who was one of the
leaders among the illuminati. It has, at least, inspired
us with a desire to read the previous part. In case the
present venture proves remunerative, a third part, which
is to be most interesting of all, will follow. Of this part
we have never heard, and we wait to learn something
concerning it, and also concerning a reissue of the first
part, which seems to be promised. The announcements
we have received are, however, almost as cryptic as the
work itself.
Folk-Lore. Transactions of the Folk • Lore Society.
March. (Nutt.)
BY far the most important paper in the present number
is the President's address on ' The Fairy Mythology of
English Literature : its Origin and Nature.' We have
a great wealth of fairy-lore, but all of us, except a few
students, derive our conceptions of the world of elves
mainly from Shakspeare's ' Midsummer Night's Dream.'
How did he acquire the knowledge which he has used
so deftly in one of the most charming of his creations ]
Mr. Alfred Nutt believes it had its origin in the popular
beliefs of bis own time combined with the romantic
literature concerning Arthur and Charlemagne. The
former of these is due almost entirely to Celtic sources,
and the latter is so too in a great measure, though of
course far less directly. No doubt in Shakspeare's time
the belief in fairies was more confident and real than
it is now, but the rural peasant, who has remained
uncontaminated by town life or newspaper reading, is
still a believer, though his convictions are more vague
than those of his forefathers. We never met with any
of them who would own to having themselves seen
any of the little folk, though we have heard that
persons recently alive professed to have done so. The
nearest approach we have made is to have known a
woman who said that her mother had a friend who on
one occasion saw a party of fairies dancing in the moon-
light on a common near the Trent. The neighbourhood
where she dwelt was in her days a watery land. If we
do not regard her story as pure fancy, but desire a
rationalistic interpretation thereof, such as the older
mythologists were in the habit of producing when they
endeavoured to reduce to arid prose the poetic myths
of Hellas and the neighbouring lands, we may imagine
that she saw a cluster of ruffs and reeves engaged in
one of their nuptial dances. These beautiful birds are
all gone now, but when she lived were common on the
marshy grounds near her home, and their dances in the
pairing season have attracted the attention of more than
one naturalist, They are, we have been informed, so
very human - looking that the observer might well
believe that
The elf-queen with hyr jolly companye
Danced ful oft in many a greene mede.
We do not think that Mr. Nutt has laid quite suffi-
cient stress on the fairy beliefs of our forefathers;
that they were sufficiently powerful to influence their
lives may be taken for granted, though our older
literature tells us little of it. There were no students
of folk-lore for its own sake in those days, and the
stories which have been recorded are most of
them of the least interesting sort. The literary
class regarded fairies either as devils intent on seducing
mankind or else as the gods and goddesses of the old
classic world, with whom they were really connected,
only in a most indirect manner. That they were well
known everywhere is evinced, not only by the name of
fairy-rings given to circles in the grass for which no
explanation could be found, but also by such forms as
fairy-stones, fairy-pavements, fairy-pipes, fairy-beads,
fairy-hills, and many other words of like character.
Mr. J. B. Andrews, in his paper on * Neapolitan
Witchcraft,' shows that magic, black and white, but
mostly of the darker sort, still flourishes in what we
may, for historical purposes, be permitted to call the
kingdom of Naples. The southern part of Italy must be
a most interesting spot for the folk-lorist, but then he
must not only know Italian such as we find in books, but
also the peasant dialects, which differ more from the
accepted tongue than the folk-speech does with us.
Mr. Thomas Doherty gives some very interesting notes
on the superstitions of Innishowen, co. Donegal ; and
Miss Mabel Peacock's remarks are, in fact, a continua-
tion of her former paper on the hood-game played at
Haxey in the Isle of Axholme.
MR. HENRY FEOWDE has reprinted, in an elegant form,
from the copy used by Sir George Smart, The Form and
Order of Queen Victoria's Coronation Service.
PROP. JOHN YOUNG, M.B., the Keeper of the Hun-
terian Museum in Glasgow University, has reprinted the
very interesting address on the Hunterian Library which
he delivered at the annual meeting of subscribers on
13 April.
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CONTENT S.— N° 287.
NOTBS —John Cabot and the Matthew, 501— R. L. Steven-
gon and Burns, 503-Columbian Bibliographical Exhibit.
503-The Shamrock as Food, 505-Decapitation of Voltaire
-The Rev. S. Wesley, the Elder-Celtic Grave Slabs—
"The black water," 506— "When sorrow sleepeth, &c.—
Misquotation— James Stuart, 507.
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creature "-Charterhouse-G. Smeeton-Families of Cross,
Lloyd, and Rose, 507-" A chief magi' - -'John Jasper's
Secret ' — Machiavelli — Robert Johnston — Sir James
Saunderson-Monkish Latin- Comptroller of the Pipe-
Precise Hour Wanted-Fee Farm Rents-Christian Policy,
Clerk— Author Wanted-Matthew Hamilton—" Garrplds.
•^nn "Rnhcrt Woolsev— Spring Gardens — Roman Aritn-
meUc-" TenSio^»-'« C. gE."-Pulf ton-Kerry Topo-
graphy—Portrait of the Queen— Josselyn Coat of Arms,
509-Statue of the Duke of Kent, 510.
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Green Marriages-Religious Dancing-Royal Quartering,
511-Labels on Books-" All my eye and Peggy Martin —
A Notable London Tavern — Pinchbeck-Cousin, 512-
Scottish University Graduates-Gillman Family-Church
Registers-Hatchments, 513-W. Crawford - Landguard
Fort— John Callow— • Euormos,' 514-'' ;Ha porth of tar
— •• Clavus griophili "— Buslet— First Ship Named, 515—
S and F-Rebellion of 1715— "Aceldama'— Sneezing, 516
-Misquotation-" Three acres and a cow," 517-McKmley
— The "Barghest"— Chapel-Snake— The Dacre Monument
—Frozen Music— Provincial Pronunciation, 518.
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Vols. II. and III. - Palmer's « Cathedral Church of
Rochester'— Seamer's 'Cathedral Church of Oxford T
Richardson's 'George Morland's Pictures - Flonp s
' Essays of Montaigne,' Vol. III.— James s Boethius —
Sayle's 'In Praise of Music '—Ram pirn s Iistory of
Moray and Nairn '— L'Intermecliaire— Melusine.
JOHN CABOT AND THE MATTHEW.
The approaching fourth centenary of the dis-
covery of North America by John Cabot, under
the British flag, may lend interest to the following
remarks.
Barrett's * History of Bristol ' (Bristol, 1789,
4to. p. 172) contains this statement : —
" In the year 1497, the 24th of June, on St. John's
day, was Newfoundland found by Bristol men, in a
ship called the Matthew : as it is in a manuscript in my
possession."
With one or two exceptions, all the historians of
Cabot have placed implicit confidence in that
assertion, and henceforth the ship's name, the
Matthew, hitherto absolutely unknown, became
as famous as that of the Mayflower. Endeavours
were made to discover Barrett's manuscript, inas-
much as alleged old Bristol documents are not
always to be trusted, particularly those quoted by
Barrett, owing to his dealings with Chatterton
('N. & QV 2nd S. v. 154, and 'Dictionary of
National Biography,' vol. iii., 1885, pp. 285-6).
But it could not be found. In Mr. G. E. Weare's
• Cabot's Discovery of North America/ just pub-
lished (London, 8vo. pp. 115-22), there is an
account of a MS. chronicle, formerly in the pos-
session of the Fust family,of Hill Court, Gloucester-
shire, which MS. was certainly akin to Barrett's.
The earliest mention of the existence of that MS.
in the Fust family or elsewhere is relatively recent.
It dates only from the death of Sir John Dutton
Colt, who had inherited the MS. from a niece of
Sir John Fust, who died in 1779. After Sir John
Dutton Colt's death, in 1845, it passed to Sir
E. H. Vaughan Colt, who sold it to Mr. Wm.
Strong, a Bristol bookseller. Mr. Strong requested
his assistant
" to collate the entries therein with Barrett's and Seyer's
histories, with a view to the extraction from the
chronicle of all the entries which were yet unpublished,
or which contained information supplemental to any
matter or event already published in either of those
histories."
Mr. Strong subsequently sold the MS. chronicle,
together with the excerpta, to Mr. John Hugh
Smyth- Pigott.
In the year 1849 a sale was held of Mr. Smyth-
Pigott's effects. The catalogue mentions the MS.
as being " from Sir Francis Fust's library." In
that case it would be traced back to 1769, which
is the date of Sir Francis's death. It was bought
in by Mr. Pigott, after whose decease, in 1853, it
was again sold, and purchased by Mr. Kerslake
for 112. 5s. Finally, it was burnt to ashes in the
conflagration of his book store, 14 Feb., 1860.
But the excerpta, or "collations," made by Mr.
Strong's assistant escaped, and they are now in
the possession of Mr. William George, a Bristol
bookseller. I borrow all these details from Mr.
Weare's book. It is one of those excerpta which
this writer has inserted in his work ; but he omits
to say that it was already published twenty years
ago (in vol. iv. p. 350 of the ' Encyclopaedia
Britannica') and from the same extracts. The
complete text is as follows : —
" [Copy Entry].
"1496. John Drewes [Mayor], Thomas Vaughan, Hugh
Johnes [Sheriff], John Elyott [Bailiffs].
" This year, on St. John the Baptist's Day, the land
of America was found by the Merchants of Bristowe in
a shippe of Bristowe, called the Mathew; the which
said ship departed from the port of Bristowe, the second
day of May, and came home again the 6th of August
next following.
" 1497. Henry Dale [Mayor], John Spencer, Richard
Vaughan [Sheriff], William Lane [Bailiffs]."
The reader will notice that the above citation is
presented in the form of and as if it were a literal
copy of an official document originally written in
1497 — the old-time civic entries of years dating,
we are informed by Mr. Weare, from 29 Sept.
and ending on 28 Sept.
Now the name of America, which is conspicuous
in that extract, was not invented until ten years
afterwards, in April, 1507, at St. Diey, in Lor-
raine, by a German geographer called Martin
Waltzemiiller, in these now well-known words : —
" Nunc vero et hoe par tea aunt latius lustratae et alia
quarta pars per Americum Vesputium (ut in sequentibug
audietur) inventa est quam non video cur quis jure vetet
ab Americo inventore eagacis ingenii viro Amerigen,
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quasi Americi terram, sive Americana dicendam, cum et
Europa et Asia a mulieribua sua sortita eint nomina."
"But now that those parts have been more exten-
sively examined and another fourth part has been
discovered by Americus (as will be seen in the sequel),
I do not see why it should be justly forbidden to name
it Amerige, that is, the Land of Americus, or America,
after its discoverer, Americus, a man of sagacious mind,
since both Europe and Asia took their names from
women." — ' Cosmographiae introductio Urbs Deodate
Finit. vij. Kalend. Maij Anno supra sesqui Millesium
vij.,' 4to, verso of the fifteenth leaf.
But this fact remained unknown until Humboldt
disclosed it in his * Examen Critique/ published at
Paris in 1834.
The extract from the Fust MS. gives also the
alleged date of the discovery, viz., " On St. John
the Baptist's Day " (June 24). This day was stated
for the first time only in 1544, by one Dr. Grajales,
of the port of Santa Maria, in Spain, when preparing
the legends of the map of Cabot which was published
in that year, and is a date highly improbable
(Forum, last June number, p. 464).
So much for the common belief that the text of
the above-mentioned excerptum is contemporaneous
with Cabot's first voyage. The Fust chronicle,
purporting to have been written by one " Maurice
Toby, gentleman," otherwise entirely unknown,
bore the following title : —
" A Brief Chronicle, conteyninge the accompte of the
Reignes of all the Kings in the Realme of Englande,
from the entering of Brutus untill this present yeere,
with all the notable acts done by dyvers of them,
and wherein is also conteyned the names of all the
Mayors, Stewardes, Bayliffes, and Sheriffes, of the
laudable town of Bristowe, now at this time called ye
Worshippfull City of Bristowe, with all the notable acts
done in those days, from the first yeere of King Henry
ye 3rd, A.D. 1217, untill the present yeere, 1566."
If the chronicle was not written before 1565, of
course there is no anachronism either in the use
of the name America or in the date of 24 June,
1497. But in that case we must assume that they
are interpolations, or that the extract was not
intended to be given as an original text. This
alternative is difficult to believe, on account of the
technical form of the excerptum, of the specific
reference to "this year," and of the names of
mayors, sheriffs, and bailiffs therein inserted.
We must at present examine the question of
authenticity from another point of view. The
extract states that the discovery of " the land of
America " was made " on St. John the Baptist's
Day." Although the statement was engraved in
1544, its earliest mention in print is not earlier
than 1589, when Hakluyt gave a translation of
Grajales's cartographical legend, in the first edition
of his ' Principall Navigations.' It is evident that
"Maurice Toby, gentleman," whom I strongly
suspect to be of the same family as the monk
Rawley, cannot have transcribed in 1565 a phrase
which was written at the soonest in 1584 (Hak-
luyt's ' Discourse on Westerne Planting,' printed
for the first time in 1877), and published only in
1589. But he may have borrowed it from the
engraved map itself, an edition of which was made
in England by Clement Adams in 1549.
The Fust extract gives also a date for the sailing
out of Cabot's expedition, viz. : " The ship de-
parted from the port of Bristow the second day of
May." This cannot have been borrowed from the
map ; but it is partly set forth in Hakluyt, three
pages after the passage where he gives the date of
the voyage, viz,: "And departed from the port
of Bristowe in the beginning of May"; mixing,
however, as do all the chronicles of the time, the
voyage of 1497 with that of 1498. This coin-
cidence, although incomplete, and the same terms
used, are worthy of notice. There remains, how-
ever, the date of the return, also given in the
excerptumt viz,, the " 6th of August next follow-
ing." Where did the author of the chronicle find
it? We know that Cabot was back in England
10 Aug., 1497, but we know it only from the
gratuity which Henry VII. granted him on that
day, and this was made known in print not before
1831, when N. Harris Nicolas published his 'Ex-
cerpta Historical Nor should we forget that these
two dates, viz., 2 May and 6 August, as well as
the ship's name, the Matthew, are to be found
exclusively in the Fust excerptum, and, although
possible, stand uncorroborated.
A critical examination of all the Fust excerpta
alone could probably afford the means of proving
absolutely the apocryphal character of that chronicle.
Meanwhile my impression is that both MSS. were
fabricated, in some form or other, by Chatterton,
who sold one to Sir Francis Fust, a zealous book
collector — and we know to what extent this pre-
dilection often blinds the discernment of biblio-
philes— and the other to Barrett, " whom nothing
could startle into incredulity." In connexion with
this, it is well to recollect that Chatterton died in
1770, Sir Francis Fust in 1769, and that, although
Barrett's book was not published before 1789,
"he began from an early period to collect materials
for the enterprise, and that his portrait, engraved in
1764, already designates him as ' author of the History
and Antiquities of Bristol ' (Mr. Charles Kent)."
My supposition is further strengthened by the fol-
lowing remark of Mr. George Price, the learned
City Librarian of Bristol (1858) :—
" I have for a long time regarded these writings
[viz., certain documents of which the local historians
have made ample use] as exceedingly mischievous, so far
at least as they refer to Bristol, and deserving to be
classed with the forgeries of Chatterton, who, in fact, I
have no doubt, was the author of many of them."
HENRY HARRISSB.
Paris.
ROBERT LOUIS STEVENSON AND BURNS.
Incited thereunto by several references to the
subject in these columns and elsewhere, I have
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503
been re-reading R. L. Stevenson's essay on Barns
in the 'Familiar Studies of Men and Books.'
Perhaps a juster estimate of a greatly erring great
man was never written, and I am more than ever
amazed at the bitterness with which certain Scotch-
men pursue Stevenson on account of it. The essay,
however, needs no defence, and I do not propose
to attempt one ; but it may be worth while to
point out the agreement there is between Steven-
son's estimate of Burns the lover and Matthew
Arnold's judgment of Burns the poet. Burns, says
Stevenson, in effect, was never wholly in love : —
"His affections were often enough touched, but
perhaps never engaged. He was all his life on a voyage
of discovery, but it does not appear conclusively that he
ever touched the happy isle He was ' constantly the
victim of some fair enslaver,' at least, when it was not
the other way about ; and there were often underplots
and secondary fair enslavers in the background. Many
— or may we not say most? — of these affairs were
entirely artificial. One, he tells us, he began, * out of a
vanity of showing his parts in courtship,' for he piqued
himself on his ability at a love-letter. But, however
they began, these flames of his were fanned into a passion
ere the end ; and he stands unsurpassed in his power of
self-deception, and positively without a competitor in
the art, to use his own words, of ' battering himself into
a warm affection.'"
Hear now the other critic on his poetry. After
quoting several passages as instances of the
"criticism of life" "made by a man of vigorous
understanding, and (need I say ?) a master of lan-
guage," Arnold proceeds : —
4 'But for supreme poetical success more is required
than the powerful application of ideas to life ; it must
be an application under the conditions fixed by the laws
of poetic truth and poetic beauty. These laws fix as an
essential condition, in the poet's treatment of such
matters as are here in question, high seriousness — the
high seriousness which conies from absolute sincerity.
The accent of high seriousness, born of absolute sincerity,
is what gives to such verse as
In la sua volontade e noatra pace,
to such criticism of life as Dante's, its power. Is this
accent felt in the passages which I have been quoting
from Burns ? Surely not ; surely, if our sense is quick,
we must perceive that we have not in those passages a
voice from the very inmost soul of the genuine Burns."
Even the love poems he will not allow to be
absolutely sincere : —
"At moments he touches it in a profound and pas-
sionate melancholy, as in those four immortal lines
taken by Byron as a motto for ' The Bride of Abydos,'
but which have in them a depth of poetic quality such
as resides in no verse of Byron's own —
Had we never loved sae kindly, &c.
But a whole poem of that quality Burns cannot make ;
the rest, in the * Farewell to Nancy,' is verbiage." —
' Essays in Criticism,' Second Series, pp. 48, 49.
Surely this criticism, from one so different from
himself both in taste and temperament, is a strong
corroboration and complete justification of Steven-
son's judgment of the man. It is a defect of
character rather than of genius that Arnold
remarks in Burns, the very same defect that
Stevenson finds in him, a want of perfect sincerity,
an easy aptitude for self-deception ; and when a
poet's work is, as that of Burns is, almost entirely
persona], his character is as legitimate a subject of
criticism as his poetry. C. 0. B.
THE BIBLIOGRAPHICAL EXHIBIT AT THE
COLUMBIAN EXPOSITION.
(Continued from 8th S. x. 253.)
I shall endeavour, to some extent, to follow a
certain chronological order in treating of these
early works bearing directly upon the discovery of
America. I may, therefore, next mention a
sermon preached at Eome on 19 June, 1493, by
Bishop Carvajal, dwelling upon the achievements
of Ferdinand and Isabella, chief among which he
numbers the discovery of America. The sermon
was published late in the same year, and probably
at the same city. But three copies of the volume
are now known to exist : one at Milan, and two in
the United States ; of the latter, one is in the
Lenox Library. It has no water-mark, and is also
sine anno aut loco. The opening portion of the
title is as follows : —
"Oratio super prsestanda obedientia san- | ctissimo.
D.N.AlexandroPapaeVI.exparteChri- | stianissimorum.
domino R. Fernandi & Helisabe [sic] Re | gis & Reginse
Hispaniae : habita Romas in consisto | rio publico per. R.
Patrem dn'm Bernardinum Car- | uaial Ep'm Cartha-
ginen'. die Mercurii. xix. Junii sa | lutis Christiane.
M.cccc.xciii, Pontificatus eiusdem | D. Alexandri Anno
Primo."
The original of the ' Dati del Isole,' the first poem
relating to the New World, was also on exhibition.
Of this work two editions were published at
Florence in 1493. The first appeared on 25 October
and is exceedingly rare, but two copies being
known to exist : one of these was secured for the
Chicago Exposition, and now reposes in the Lenox
Library ; the other, I believe, is in the British
Museum. The second edition was published on
the following day, and differs from the other in
many particulars. There are numerous changes in
the text, which had evidently been subjected to
revision ; the type is Roman ; the title and spelling
present several variations ; and there is a woodcut
on the first page representing the King of Spain
gazing across the water at a tropical island. One
copy is preserved in the British Museum and
another at Milan. The author of this poem was
Giuliano Dati, Bishop of St. Leone, who was also
guilty of several other rhythmical effusions. The
work is not a metrical translation of the Santangel
letter, as it has frequently been called, but simply
an ottava rima paraphrase of sixty-eight stanzas,
fourteen of which constitute a fulsome and vapid
preamble eulogizing the notorious Alexander
Borgia. The title* of the poem is as follows : —
* First edition.
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" Questa e la hysteria della inuentio'e delle dieee Isole
di Cunnaria in In | diane extracte duna Epistola di
Cbristofano Colombo & per messer Giu | lianp Dati
traducta de latino in uersi uulgari a laude e gloria della
cele | stiale corte & a consolatione della Christiana religio'e
& apreghiera del ma j gnifico Caualier miser Giouanfilippo
Delignamine domestico familia | re dello sacratissimo
Re di Spagna Christianissimo a di xxv. Octobre |
M.cccclxxxxiii. | Joannes dictus Florentinus.
Columbus is introduced in the fourteenth stanza.
There was catalogued " the first drama concerning
America/' but this nomenclature must have arisen
from an obvious misunderstanding, inasmuch as
the drama proper is based upon incidents in con-
nexion with the siege and capture of Granada from
the Moors by Ferdinand, and contains no reference
to the New World. Early in 1494, however, the
drama was republished at Basle by Bergmann de
Olpe ; and at its close was added a reprint of the
pictorial edition of the letter of Columbus already
described. A number of copies of this work are
known to be extant. The title is : "In laudem
serenissi j mi Ferdinandi Hispaniae R. regis, Bethi-
I cse & regni Granatae obsidio, victoria & triu'phus
Et de Insulis in mare Indico | nuper inuentis."
Following this comes a full -length portrait of
Ferdinand. The volume is a thin octavo, con-
taining thirty-six unnumbered leaves, the last
seven and a half of which are occupied by the
Columbus letter.
The first published account of the second voyage
of Columbus was contained in a small Latin
pamphlet of ten pages, compiled by Syllacii
from an account by Guglielmo Coma, an Italian
noble residing in Spain, who in turn obtained his
information from letters written by Columbus and
by the surgeon who accompanied the expedition.
The first edition bears no imprint, but was pro-
bably published at Pavia* late in 1494 or at the
beginning of 1495. The dedication to Ludovic
Sforza is dated December, 1494. Only two copies
of the work are now known to be in existence — one
in the Lenox Library, and the other at Milan,
A second edition was published in 1496.
It was not held that the books exhibited
would form anything like a complete bibliography
Americana or Columbiana of even the fifteenth
century, and as these papers pretend only to
give some account of the books, manuscripts,
and documents exhibited, many noteworthy
works which are regarded as of considerable im-
portance by Harrisse, Stevens, and others have
been passed over in silence. Before coming to the
sixteenth century, however, I may make mention
of the work of Sabellicus, found in the John Boyd
Thatcher loan collection, which I shall hereafter
speak of more fully. The title ran : " M. Antonivs
Sabellicvs Avgvstino Barbadico Serenissimo |
Venetiarvm Principi et Sanatvi Felicitatem. "
On the recto of the second leaf "Liber Primvs
| Marci Antonii Coccii Sabellici in Khapsodiam
Historiarvm Ab OrbeCondito." Colophon," Venetiis
MCCCCXCVIII. " Large folio. In the eighth book
of the tenth * Enneadse' is found a brief but inter-
esting biographical sketch of Columbus, said to
have been the first ever published.
Here it is proper to notice the ' Cosmographies
Introductio,' a thin quarto volume, written in
Latin, which has yet unquestionably had a more
important effect upon geographical nomenclature
than any other book ever published. Harrisse
remarks* : —
"But for this little work the Western Hemisphere
might have been called the Land of the Holy Cross, or
Atlantis, or Hesperideg, or Iberica, or Columbia, or New
India, or the Indes, as it is officially designated in Spain
to this day. The idea of calling the newly discovered
world America originated with the compiler of the work
before us, one Martin WaltzmUller or Waldsee-miiller, a
native of Freiburg Following the custom of the
scholars of those days, he grecized his name into Hyla-
comylus, under which he is now generally known
The popularity of HylacomylusTs ' Cosmographia ' was
such in Central Europe that his proposition was imme-
diately acted upon An anonymous 'Globus Mundi,'f
published by the same printer in 1509, boldly calls the
new world America, which figures under this name for
the first time in maps eight or ten years after Vespuccius
had been in his then honoured grave. Well may we say
with HumboldtJ that 'c'est un homme obscur, qui allait
manger du raisin en Lorraine, qui a invente le nom
d'Ame"rique, qu' Appien, Vadianus et Camers ont repandu
depuis par Strasbourg, Fribourg et Vienne.' '
Of the rare original first edition of this work but
one perfect copy was known to Harrisse§ in 1867 ;
this, the Eyries- Ye'me'niz copy, came to the United
States in the same year. It was picked up on a
bookstall in Paris for a franc. Two other copies
are mentioned by Varnhagan,but cannot be located,
and the so-called Vatican copy is said to be in a
private collection at Albany. While the Eyries
copy is supposed to have been the first edition,
there seems nevertheless to be considerable uncer-
tainty in regard to it, nor do authorities agree
upon this point. The * Cosmographia ' was begun
with the proposed revision of Ptolemy by a number
of learned men who inhabited the monastery of
St. Die, and who organized themselves into the
Gymnase Vosgien, a voluntary conclave of scholars,
among the most prominent of whom were Pierre
This is on the authority of Harrisse ; other presses
are, however, mentioned in connexion with the work.
* * Bib. Americana,' pp. 94-5.
f The ' Globus Mundi,' a small quarto volume of four-
teen unnumbered leaves, was, curiously, not exhibited,
which, considering its rarity and importance, is a matter
of some surprise. An excellent reprint was published
very recently by Hoepli, of Milan. Of this work Von
Humboldt says: "C'est dans cette brochure, tres rare
aujourd'hui, quo j'ai trouve employee pour la premiere
fois la denomination d'Ame*rique pour designer le
Nouveau Monde, d'apres le conseil donne par Hylaco-
mylusen 1507."
1 ' Examen Critique.'
§ ' Bib. Amer,,' ioc. cit.
8>"S. XI. JOHB 26/97.]
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505
de Blarru, poet ; Jean Basin, rhetorician ; Gualtier
Lud, secretary to Duke Rene II., himself a patron
of the liberal arts ; Matthias Ringmann, geographer
and general scientist ; and Waldseemiiller himself.
To the two last named the task of the revision was
principally entrusted. In 1506, while the work
was in progress, there arrived at St. Die from
Duke Rene a manuscript report of the four voyages
of Amerigo Vespucci, written in September, 1504,
and as (exhibiting the slowness with which news
travelled in those days) the Vespuccian narrative
was the only account of the discovery which had
been received in Central Europe, this startling
announcement caused a change in the plans, and
the new ' Gosmographia ' was determined upon to
in a measure supplant the antiquated work of
Ptolemy. It was nob until May, 1507 — about a
year after Columbus, wearied with the injustice of
the world, had been laid to rest in his dishonoured
grave — that the work first appeared. But the
honour of the authorship was itself in dispute, and
the claim of Waldseemiiller did not go unquestioned ;
in fact, in the second and third editions, supposed
to have been published during his absence from
St. Die, the authorship is attributed to the
Gymnase Vosgien. Tardy and partial credit was
later given him again in the fourth, but it would
appear that the former cordial relations existing
among the members of the Gymnase were never
fully restored. The so-called second and fourth
editions are, in fact, it is generally believed, the
first and third, with the first few leaves removed
and others substituted in their place, for the pur-
pose of accrediting the authorship to the Gymnase
in the first instance, and of restoring it to Waldsee-
miiller in the second.* As a result, the dating of
the first and second editions is the same, and the
third and fourth editions also bear the same date.
The first edition, as has been remarked, is very
rare. What purported to be an original copy,
loaned by Charles F. Gunther, of Chicago, was on
exhibition ; but I should be unwilling to positively
assert its claim to this distinction. It bears the
date the VII. Kalend, May, 1507. The title of
the first edition was as follows : —
" Cosmographise Introductio. | Gym Qvibvsdam | Geo-
metriae | Ac | Astrono | inise Principiia | Ad Earn Bern
Necessariis | Insuper quatuor Americi Ve- | spucij
nauigationes. | Vniuersalis Cosmographise descriptio |
tarn in solido q'plano | eis etiam | insertis quae in Ptho-
lomeo | ignota a nuperis | reperta | aunt. | Distichon |
* For an extended account of the ' Cosmographia '
gee an article entitled « The Baptismal Pont of America,'
in Harper's Magazine (New York, 1893), vol. Ixxxv.
p. 651. Some of the statements therein should, however,
be taken cum grano satis, and Harrisse as an authority is
much to be preferred. It cannot be stated with any
certainty that the make-up of the editions above out-
lined is correct, and, in fact, there seems to be evidence
to prove that in making up the later editions the pages
were pretty well mixed.
Oum Deus astra regat & terras climata Caesar | Nee tellus
nee eis sydera maius habent."
Under the ninth heading, " De qnibusdam cosmo-
graphiae rudimentis," after describing the grand
divisions of the Eastern hemisphere, Waldsee-
miiller penned the following words, doubtless with
little thought of their significance or of their im-
portant effect: —
" Paries sunt latius lustratse & alia quarta pars per
America' Vesputiu' (vt in eequentibus audietur) inventa
est qua' non video cur quis hire vetet ab Americo
inuentore sagacis ingenij viro Amerigen quasi Americi
terra' eiue Americam dicenda' cu' & Europa & Asia a
mulieribus eua sortita sint nomina. Eius situ' & gentis
mores ex bis binis Americi nauigationibus quee sequnt
liquide intelligi datur,"
In an idle moment the word was written and the
act irrevocably accomplished before the ink was
scarcely dry upon the quill. A new continent
had been christened, and within a year the word
America was in everybody's moutb, while the
feeble attempts which were made to give the New
World another name died in their inception. For
three hundred years was the justly earned fame of
Vespucci tarnished by the supposition that he
had usurped an honour not his own, and given his
name to a continent discovered by another ; nor
was it until 1837 that Von Humboldt first directed
attention to the fact that it was the same ' Cosmo-
graphia' which had worked the wrong and per-
petuated the error. The * Cosmographia ' is a thin
quarto volume of fifty-two unnumbered leaves and
one double or folded leaf. The water-mark is a
bull's head. The text does not differ throughout
the several editions, either in the ' Cosmographia
proper, forming the first part of the work, or the
second part, containing the relation of the four
voyages of Vespucci, although the title-pages and
typography show considerable variation. Two later
editions appeared, one from the press of Jean
Griininger (Strasburg, 1509) and the other from
the press of Jean de la Place, (Lyons, 1514). A
copy of the former was in the library of Fernando
Columbus in 1524, which has led some to believe
that he did not write the history of his father
generally attributed to him, because it does not
denounce the author of the ' Cosmographia.'
A. MONTGOMERY HANDY.
New Brighton, U.S.
THE SHAMROCK AS FOOD.— As C. C. B. has
made reference to the shamrock as food (,s.i?»
* Honeysuckle/ 8th S. xi. 195), he may like to be
referred to an exceedingly interesting series of
articles on this subject, by Mr. Nathaniel ColgaU)
M.K.I. A., in the Journal of the Royal Society of
Antiquaries of Ireland, vol. vi., 1896, pp. 211,
349. That the shamrock was used as diet before
it was adopted as the national emblem is con-
clusively demonstrated, though Mr* Colgan shows
that one writer borrows from another; very few
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dfew their information from personal observation.
Spenser undoubtedly did, and he is perhaps re-
sponsible for the familiarization of this fact to his
contemporaries. I quote the passage from 'The
View of the Present State of Ireland ': —
" Out of every corner of the woods and glinnes they
Came creeping foorthe upon theyr handes, for theyr
legges could not beare them ; they looked like anatomyea
of death, they spake like ghoates crying out of their
graves; they did eat of the dead carrions and yf they
founde a plotte of water-cresses or sham-rokes there they
flocked as to a feast for the time."
This dietary use was known to the Elizabethan
dramatists, though Mr. Colgan does not note the
following : —
" I vill give tee leave to cram my mouth phit sham«
rokes and butter, and vater creesb.es instead of pearsh
and peepsh." — Ben Jonson'a ' Irish Masque.'
" This Irish footman, a wild kerne, a frog ; a dog ;
whom I '11 scare spurn. Longed you for shamrock ? " —
Thomas Dekker, ' The Honest Whore,' part ii., Act III.
scene i.
" The shamrock thus used as food [says Mr. Colgan],
was one or other, or, perhaps both, of the meadow
clovers or trefoils, Trifolitom pralente (purple clover),
and T. repens (white clover) of modern botanists."
W. A. HBNDBBSON.
Dublin.
DECAPITATION OF VOLTAIRE. — I transcribe the
following extract from an old 'Commonplace Book,'
and as I find no mention of the circumstance in
the two lives (Waller and Chambers) to which I
have referred, it may be worth preserving. The per-
son who saw the alleged head of Voltaire was William
Grimaldi, A.B., afterwards miniature painter to
George IV,, several very fine miniatures by whom
are still in the magnificent collection possessed by
Her Majesty at Windsor. Voltaire died 1778 : —
"Voltaire never waked again. On his death the
Archbishop of Paris (Voltaire having died under the
sentence of excommunication) refused him Christian
burial. His friends and the comedians of the different
theatres petitioned the king to the contrary, but their
only answer was that the king could not meddle in such
a matter. He was therefore interred at the bottom of
his own garden. A surgeon got permission of his friends
to cut off his head, in order (as he said) to search whether
this great man had more brains than the rest of man-
kind ; but, be that as it may, the head was afterwards
shown in Paris at 12 sols each person, and among the
visitors was my father, from whom I have this account.
When his corpse, at the French Revolution, was dug up
in order to be interred at the Pantheon, there was (to the
astonishment of many) a body without a head. S. G.,
April 12, 1809, 21 m: past 6 P.M."
D. J.
THE REV. SAMUEL WESLEY, THE ELDER. (See
8tto S. ix. 21.)— The interesting narrative of the
political trials of John Wesley's father, written by
himself and supplied in one of the volumes issued
by the Royal Historical Manuscripts Commission,
can now be supplemented by a contemporary and
confirmatory account, given in the latest pub-
lished of such volumes. This is contained in one
of a series of ( Passages of Dyer's News Letters '
(endorsed as such by Robert Barley), from May to
July, 1705, in the fourth volume describing the
Duke of Portland's MSS., and it reads as follows :
"1705, July 17, London.— Mr. Wesley, a beneficed
minister in Lincolnshire, who formerly wrote the Life of
Christ, which he dedicated to Queen Mary, but lately
unhappily writing against the Dissenters, and since that
giving his vote for the Tacking interest at the election
in the county, and his reasons in writing for so doing j
he was in the first place removed from being chaplain to
a regiment, which is worth about 100£. per annum, &c.
In the next place after a thousand insults in his house
and streets of Jacobite, Parkinite, &c., was arrested and
carried to Lincoln Gaol in a violent manner for some
debts contracted by the smallness of his income, the
numerousness of his family, and other accidents of Pro-
vidence; but it seems he was pertinacious, and would
not retract his book (being facts), otherwise he might
fare better."
ALFRED F. ROBBINS.
CELTIC GRAVE SLABS. — The following is a
cutting from the Scotsman, the date of which I
am unable to give : —
* 'During the present clearing out operations in the
old churchyard of Kilchrenan, Lochaweside, a number
of old carved tombstones have been unearthed. They
are of the fourteenth and fifteenth century Celtic type,
devoid of any inscription, and showing the characteristic
carving well preserved. Two very fine examples were
found in the Sonachan walled-in portion of the burying-
ground. One stone shows a sword of a quaint pattern,
unique in its plain and distinct outline. Another stone,
broken at one end, has a sword and zoomorphic sur-
rounding interlaced work. Broken fragments of what
seems to have formed the ornamental portion of the pre-
Reformation chapel have also been met with, and are
being preserved. The Duke of Argyll, Lord Malcolm of
Poltalloch, Lord Lome, Lord Archibald Campbell, Camp-
bell of Stracathro, and others have shown much interest
in this old burying-ground. The Rev. N. Campbell, the
parish minister, and his office-bearers have done good
work in superintending the proper placing of the stones.
Mr. Glendinning, Fernoch, and Mr. Greig, of the Poltal-
loch estate office, found some more stones on Tuesday
last. Dr. Macnaughton, F. S.A.Scot., Taynuilt, visited
the churchyard on Tuesday, but the day was stormy and
wet, so that no rubbings of the stones could be taken."
CELER ET AUDAX.
" THE BLACK WATER," A PREVALENT BLUNDER.
— It is well known that the Hindoos have a
horror of crossing the ocean, since during sea
transit they are unable to practise the numerous
observances which are essential to the maintenance
of caste. This repugnance, moreover, is not con-
fined to the compulsory and penal crossing of the
sea, as in transportation for crime, but it extends
to all sea navigation, including that incidental
to military expeditions ; and it has, in fact, been
the cause of many of the minor mutinies among;'
our native Indian troops.
In allusion to this circumstance English writers
have got into an absurd way of saying that the
Hindoos have a horror of " the black water." But
this is nonsense. The ocean is not black, but
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takes its colour from its environment — chiefly
from the sky — and under the brilliant skies of the
East it is generally a bright blue. In point of
fact, the Hindoos are not so foolish as to call it " the
black water.'1 They call it, and correctly call it,
the Mara pani, that is, the salt water. But
blundering Anglo-Indians have confounded the
word Jchara, salt, with kala, black ; and hence
they describe the Hindoos as calling the sea the
kala pani, or black water. Khar a means bitter,
salt, briny ; and, except similarity of sound, it
has nothing whatever to do with kala, black.
This is but one of numerous errors which might
be cited arising from defective scholarship ; and
it is one which I suspect is somewhat endeared to
writers by the mysterious and romantic sense
which it involves. "The black water" sounds
much more poetical than "the salt water/' but
unfortunately there is no warrant for the phrase.
PATRICK MAXWELL.
Bath.
"WHEN SORROW SLEEPETH, WAKE IT NOT."
(See 8th S. xi. 417.)— In answer to 0. 0. B.'s
question about this song in connexion with the
proverb "Let sleeping dogs lie," I write to inform
him that the editorial note appended to his query
at the above reference is correct except with regard
to the composer's name, Edward Land, misprinted
Laud. The song, in either £ flat or D flat, may be
obtained of D. Wilcock, music publisher, Imperial
Arcade, Ludgate Hill. The copyright, however,
having expired, the words and pianoforte accom-
paniment in B flat were lately reproduced in No. 8
of 'Beecham's Music Portfolio/ of which I will
forward a copy if C. 0. B. will send me his address.
F. ADAMS.
106A, Albany Road, Camberwell.
MISQUOTATION. — An amusing example may be
seen in Dr. Lunn's magazine Travel, for February.
A piece of poetry is there printed, by Longfellow,
headed ' An Arcadian Village,' and the first line
is,—
In the Arcadian land, on the shores of the Basin of
Minas.
Apparently the managers of this journal have not
yet extended their travels so far as Nova Scotia.
EDWARD H. MARSHALL, M.A.
JAMES STUART OP TWEEDMOUTH. — The Pall
Mall Gazette has this curious statement : —
" The body of the last of the Stuarts, buried at Tweed-
mouth in 1844, has just been transplanted across the
river to Berwick. James Stuart, who owned this body
while it was alive, that is to say during 115 eventful
years, regarded himself, and was by many persons
regarded as the last of the royal Stuarts."
It adds that he was four times married, and had
twenty-seven children. That he should survive
all his sons is quite probable j but there may be
other descendants. E. L. G.
We must request correspondents desiring information
on family matters of only private interest to affix their
names and addresses to their queries, in order that the
answers may be addressed to them direct.
MURILLO'S 'WOMAN EATING PORRIDGE.'— Can
any of your readers kindly tell me how this picture
found its way from the collection of Don Sebastian
Martinez, where it was in 1776, to that of Don
Manuel de Leyra, who possessed it in 1809 1 I
should also like to know the place and date of the
Martinez sale. EVELYN WELLINGTON.
Apsley House.
" CARE CREATURE." — " Even the women — ' care
creature ' — put on their Sunday bonnets and shawls
to go and see Mr. Russell find a fox" (Davies,
' Memoir of Rev. John Russell,' 1878, p. 160).
should be glad to hear from any one living in
Devonshire or Cornwall who may be able to give
me any information about the expression "care
creature." THE EDITOR OF
'THE ENGLISH DIALECT DICTIONARY.'
Clarendon Press, Oxford.
CHARTERHOUSE. — Is the name of the author
known of 'Chronicles of Charter- House,' by a
Carthusian ? The preface is signed W. J. D. R. ;
date, 1847. JAMES DALLAS.
[W. J. D. Ryder. .
GEORGE SMEETON, the pupil and printer of
Caulfield, published the Eccentric Magazine in
1814, and some six years later his 'Reprints of
Rare Seventeenth Century Tracts, and his
graphia Curiosa.' He seems to have resided
successively in Westminster, the Old Bailey, and
Tooley Street, Southwark, whence he issued his
' Doings in London ' in 1828. Any clue as to his
further doings or the date and place of his death
would be welcome. *• »•
15, Waterloo Place.
FAMILIES OF CROSS, LLOYD, AND ROSE.- Where
can I find any account of the ancestry (paternal
and maternal) and the arms of the Mbvnft--
1. Elizabeth Cross (died 22 March 1732) third
daughter of the Rev. Benjamin Gross, M.A. ,
Rector of Christ Church, Cork, also described as
of Black Hall, Oxford, and Spettisbury, co. Dorset,
and wife of Capt. John Blennerhassett, of Conway
Castle or Killorglin, co. Kerry.
2. Sarah Lloyd (called in Burke's 'Landed
Gentry ' niece of Judge Rose), wife of Anthony
Stoughton, Esq., of Rattoo and Bally horganco.
Kerry, who must have been living somewhere
about 1725, their eldest son marrying in 1748.
I am particularly anxious to ascertain the
armorial bearings (if any) of these ladies, in order
to complete the seize quartiers of my grandmother
508
NOTES AND QUERIES. [8*axi.jmm2vw.
Georgina, Marchioness de Kuvigny and Raineval,
nee Morris, daughter and eventual sole heiress of
Col. Samuel Morris, M.P., of Caatle Morris and
Ballybeggan, co. Kerry, for a series I am doing for
my * History of the Title of Eaineval'; and if any
of your correspondents can help me I shall be very
greatly obliged. KUVIGNY.
7, Victoria Street, Westminster, S,W.
"A CHIEF MAGI." (See ante, p. 60.)— These
words are used in a short review of ' Transcend-
ental Magic.' Is "magi" a misprint for mage,
which Spenser uses ? * The Faerie Queene' has : —
Untill the hardy Mayd (with love to frend)
First entering, the dreadfull Mage there found
Deepe busied bout worke of wondrous end.
Bk. iii. canto iii. § 14.
But why not use magus, of which magi is the
plural ? F. C. BIRKBECK TERRY.
[" Magi " is a misprint for mage."]
'JOHN JASPER'S SECRET.'— Will any one tell
me who was the author of an anonymous continua-
tion of Dickens's * Edwin Drood,' entitled * John
Jasper's Secret ' ? H.
All that is known will be found in « N. & Q ' 5th S. ii.
417, 475, 526; iii. 136, 177. The hack writer is obviously
untraceable.]
MACHIAVELLI. — In his Romanes Lecture at
Oxford, the 2nd inst., Mr. John Morley said
of Machiavelli : " He had the highest of all the
virtues that prose-writing can possess — save the
half-dozen cases in literature of genius with un-
conquerable wings" — he was simple, unaffected,
direct, vivid, and rational. Who are the half-
dozen prose writers with unconquerable wings?
Milton must be one ; but who are the other five
that Mr. Morley was thinking of ? It would be
interesting to know his list, and also that of a few
of the readers of ' N. & Q.' NE QUID NIMIS.
East Hyde.
ROBERT JOHNSTON OP WAMPHRAY. — I shall be
much obliged if any one will give me some informa-
tion regarding this Jacobite, who declared for the
Chevalier in 1715. It would interest me to learn
something of his parentage, and whether he had
any issue. ALEXANDER JOHNSTON.
SIR JAMES SAUNDERSON. — I am anxious to
ascertain the parentage and ancestors of Sir James
Saunderson. He was of the Drapers' Company,
sheriff in 1785, and Lord Mayor of London in 1793.
At his death (which I believe occurred on 23
June, 1798) he left behind him, for the edification
of future Lord Mayors, a curious lengthy minute
account of his official expenses for his year of office.
. w i, C. H. 0.
8. Hackney.
MONKISH LATIN. —Can any of your readers tell
me the source of the following specimen of monkish
Latin 1 The lines were repeated to me many years
ago by the late Robert Brown whom Humboldt
designated "Botanicorum facile princeps." He
was showing me the curious folding of the oalyx
in the rose, and quoted these lines, from some old
monkish manuscript, as proving what minute
observers the monks were in the Middle Ages,
The lines run : —
Quinque sumus fratres, sub eodem tempore nati
Duo barbati, due sine barba creati
Quintus barbatus, sed dimidiatus.
JOHN LOWE.
COMPTROLLER OF THE PIPE. — Can any reader
inform me what were the duties and emoluments
of this office in the seventeenth century? Dr.
Thomas Sydenham, the great physician, received
the appointment 14 July, 1659, but probably did
not hold it after the Restoration. C. 0. P.
PRECISE HOUR WANTED. — Fabricius of Aqua-
pendent was accustomed to lecture at Padua upon
anatomy at "tres horas de mane." Can any
of your readers tell me what o'clock this was?
Fabricius was appointed to his chair in 1565, and
died 20 May, 1619. D'A. P.
FEE FARM RENTS.— I shall be glad of the
names of any works — old or new — which treat on
the history and law of fee farm rents, about which
little appears to be known. 0. G. L.
CHRISTIAN POLICY, CLERK, OF GLOUCESTER-
SHIRE.— Who was he ? A tradition from Virginia
said that a Mrs. Isham had some estate in
Gloucestershire, and that she was daughter-in-
law to Christian Policy.
H. ISHAM LONGDEN, M.A.
Shangton Rectory, Leicester.
AUTHOR WANTED. — Who was the author of a
small work entitled " A Flutter in the Cage ; or,
the Unappreciated Rector. An Episode. By
Wykehamist." London, published by J. Burns,
15, Southampton Row, Holborn, 1870 (16mo.,
pp. 80). It has a dedication, in Latin, to Sir
William Magnay, first baronet. C. W. H.
MATTHEW HAMILTON. — Can any one kindly
inform me where I can procure information of the
descendants of Matthew Hamilton, merchant in
Glasgow, one of the brothers of James Hamilton
of Aikenhead, the great Provost of Glasgow, who
died in 1632, both sons of the laird of Torrance ?
A Matthew Hamilton, presumably his son, married
Janet Scott, to whom a son John was born in
Glasgow in 1634. J. HAMILTON.
" GARROLDS."— When I was a boy, say fifty-five
years ago, the wild daffodils in the woods at Athel-
hampton, six miles east of Dorchester, were called,
according to my recollection, " garrolde," but I have
never heard the word since. Can any of
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correspondents say if it is in use in other parts of
the country, or give the derivation of the word ?
J. SAVILL VAIZEY.
Lincoln's Inn, W.C.
ROBERT WOOLSET. — I have an engraving in
mezzotint depicting a man playing a violin, under-
neath which there is the name of Robert Woolsey
and the following verse : —
And that when fall'n — for fall she must
And all her charms be laid in dust,
No Youth enraptured shall enflame
The lettered Page with Sylvia's name;
Yet lovely Spring shall smile again,
And Winter bellow o'er the Plain,
When beauteous Sylvia, dead and rotten,
Shall be by all the World forgotten ;
Nay, long, long hence. « Philander to Sylvia.'
I purchased this print at the sale of the first
portion of the Challoner-Smith collection, but I
have mislaid the catalogue, and I do not remember
the name of the engraver. I have never been able
to discover who Robert Woolsey was ; and I should
be glad if any reader of ' N. & Q.' could give me
this information. A. F. HILL.
SPRING GARDENS.— Sir Robert Taylor, the archi-
tect, built himself a house in Spring Gardens. Can
E. F. S. say where this house was situated, and
whether it is still in existence ? JNO. HEBB.
Willesden Green, N.W.
ROMAN ARITHMETIC. — Is it known how the
ancient Romans managed their arithmetic ? Having
such cumbrous capital letters, how did they contrive
to deal with the wants of domestic life — still more
with mathematical calculations ? T. S. B.
positions of the said places can be discovered and
marked on a county map : Oluain Tairbh (alias
Cloontariv, vel Oluantariff ?), Kilcow, Spring
Mount. This last place is, I believe, between
the two first mentioned ; all, I think, are in or
near the Killarney region. Spring Mount is said
to be the refuge to which fled David O'Connor,
founder of the Siol-t Da, after the ruin of his clan
(the O'Connors-Kerry) in the Cromwellian war of
1652. Siol-t Da means, I suppose, his progeny ;
that is, the Clan David. Clidane : Hayes, on
p. 183, vol. ii. of his ' Ballads of Ireland/ gives
this as the name of an estate granted by James,
seventh Earl of Desmond (06. 1462), to a branch
of the M'Carties More, and further states that
Aileen, or Ellen, a daughter of M'Curtie of Clidane,
married (circ. 1731) James O'Connor, the grandson
of the said David. Topographical particulars
regarding Clidane — similar to those requested for
the other places named — are desired. At the
same time I must say that, since I cannot find the
name in any list that I have seen of MacCarthy
estates, I rather suspect " Clidane " is a misprint.
If so, can Drishane be the true name ? Dtishane,
near the town of Millstreet, in co. Cork, was a
MacCarthy estate. AMERICAN.
PORTRAIT OP
painted in 1839
Majesty in her robes,
original picture is now ?
THE QUEEN.— E. A.
a full-length portrait
' TENIFICATION."— I find this word used in a
newspaper dealing chiefly with municipal affairs.
Can any readers of ' N. & Q.' inform me if there
is any authority for its employment? I have
failed to trace the same in those standard diction-
aries which I have consulted. CECIL CLARKE.
Authors' Club, S.W.
"C. R." — Could any of your readers tell me
how to ascertain whether a royal arms tablet, bear-
ing the initials C. R., belongs to the reign of
Charles I. or Charles II.? All the instances that
I have been able to collect have borne a date, prov-
ing them to be of Charles II.'s time. Is this a
constant distinction ; and may I fairly assume the
C. R. to stand for the first Charles ? ' VRAIE.
POLESTON. — Wanted the pedigrees of the Ame-
rican branches of the family. E. E. THOYTS.
Sulhamstead, Berkshire.
KERRY TOPOGRAPHY. — The exact locations of
the following places are requested. All are in
county Kerry, I believe ; but where ? If an
answer is granted, pray give their baronies, parishes',
and other topographical particulars, so that the
61, Charing Cross Road.
Chalon
of Her
Is it known where the
It is not at Windsor.
KARSLAKE & Co.
JOSSELYN COAT OF ARMS. — On p. 22 of vol. ii.
of the ' Visitation of London ' (edited by Howard
and published by the Harleian Society in 1883) is
tricked the coat of arms of Thomas Joscelin, of the
Libertie of Saint Bartholomew the Greate, anno
1634. The coat is of eight quartering?, of which
the first, viz. , Azure, a circular wreath (which, by
the way, is in the 'Visitation of Essex 'of 1612
styled " a josselyn ") argent and sable, belled or ;
and the second, viz., Argent, a demi-lion sable,
crowned or, are both of them ascribed to Joscelin,
the remaining six quarterings being Chastelin,
Battayle, Enfield, Hyde, Patmer, Baude. The
marriages by which the six last-mentioned quarter-
ings were acquired are satisfactorily accounted for
in the Josselyn pedigree No. 2, which is given in
the 'Visitation of Essex' of 1612 (edited by
Metcalfe, and published by Harleian Society in
1878, see vol. ii. p. 226); and the arms in the
first quarter are those borne and used at the
present day by Jocelyn, Earl of Roden — lineally
descended from Thomas, eldest son of Geoffry
Josselyn, of Hyde Hall, co. Hertford, who died
anno 1428 — and by the Josselyns, of whom I am
one, lineally descended, through the above-named
Thomas Joscelin of St. Bartholomew the Great,
from Geoffry, second son of the same Geoffry.
510
NOTES AND QUERIES. CB* a xi. JUNE 26, '97.
But whence came the second Joscelin or Josselyn
coat, viz., that which fills the second quarter of the
heraldic shield ? Gould it have been a distinct
grant by way of augmentation ; and, if so, when
and to whom was such grant made ? I should be
very glad of information on the point. The
Thomas Joscelin of St. Bartholomew the Great
is described in his will (dated 4 August, 1635, and
proved at London, 26 April, 1636) as one of the
secondaries in the office of the King's Majesty's
Remembrancer in the Court of Exchequer. What
was a " secondary " in that office ?
JOHN H. JOSSELYN.
Ipswich.
STATUE OF THE DUKE OF KENT. — In what year
was the statue of Her Majesty's father, the Duke of
Kent, erected in Park Crescent, Portland Place ?
Ik is not included in the list of statues in Haydn's
* Dictionary of Dates' (twenty-first edition, p. 983),
and though mentioned in ' Old and New London '
(vol. iv. p. 451), and in the 'Dictionary of National
Biography ' (vol. xxxi. p. 20), where it is stated to
be the work of Gahagon, neither gives the date of
its erection. W. T. LYNN.
Blackheath.
PKIME MINISTER.
(8th S. x. 357, 438 ; xi. 69, 151.)
In my previous contribution upon this sub-
ject I wrote that the term "Prime Minister" was
first directly applied to Robert Harley, afterwards
Earl of Oxford ; and I quoted some lines of Swift,
written in 1710, in proof. MR. JAMES GRAHAME,
misreading what I had written, attributed to me
the idea that in this I alluded to Walpole ; but
his contribution was rendered valuable by his
supplying a reference to a book published in 1706,
which described Robert Dudley, Earl of Leicester,
as "Prime Minister and Favourite of Queen
Elizabeth." But evidence can now be supplied in
support of my assertion that it was not Walpole,
as has been commonly supposed, but Harley, who
was first by English politicians styled "Prime
Minister"; and this is to be found in the fourth
volume of 'The Manuscripts of His Grace the
Duke of Portland, preserved at Welbeck Abbey,'
just issued by the Royal Historical Manuscripts
Commission.
In a letter from Stanley West to Harley, on
29 August, 1704, the writer said :—
" I have heard of people's talk, that you fall in with
this Ministry, not for any particular value or esteem for
the persona, but as what the Court had resolved upon to
be the Ministry ; if the Court had appointed my Lord
Rochester, or any other person, to be the Prime Minister,
it would have been the same thing to you, and that your
aim is in time to be the Prime Minister youself."— P. 119.
Bat although in the year given he was made
Secretary of State, and, after a temporary absence
from office, Chancellor of the Exchequer, it was
not until May, 1711, that Harley, upon becoming
simultaneously Lord Treasurer and Earl of Oxford,
could be considered Prime Minister. On 18 May,
six days before he was created a peer, the Duke of
Somerset wrote to him, noting the coming Premier-
ship in the words, " As you are, and are to be very
soon declared, le premier ministre, I hope you will
allow me to make application to you as occasion
shall require" (p. 690). And on 29 May, John
Chamberlayne, in a letter to Lord Oxford, observed,
" I make bold to tell your Lordship how much I
applaud her Majesty's wise choice of a First
Minister "(p. 697).
It will assist to complete this contribution if
there is added the following " Notice of Motion
for which no day has been fixed," which during
this present session has been standing on the
order paper of the House of Commons, and which
plainly recognizes that position of " Prime Minis-
ter," the existence of which only the pedantic can
now dispute : —
"Mr. MacNeill, — Prime Minister and Secretary of
State for Foreign Affairs (Union of Offices),— To call
attention to the anomalous position of Lord Salisbury as
Prime Minister and Secretary of State for Foreign
Affaire, and to the severance of the office of First Lord
of the Treasury from the leadership of the Government ;
and to move, That, in the opinion of this House, the
union in one individual of the offices of Prime Minister
and Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs introduces a
fundamental change in the working of the Foreign
policy of the United Kingdom and is a rupture of an
old established and invariable practice of the greatest
importance to the good conduct of the public affairs of
the Country."
ALFRED F. BOBBINS.
The following are good examples of the early
use of "Premier." Its introduction into current
speech has been discussed lately : —
"1799. Your visit has just been succeeded by Mr.
Pitt's ! How can the Premier be so much his own enemy
in politics as well as happiness !"— Madame D'Arblay,
letter to Dr. Burney, ' Diary,' &c., vi. 193.
" 1824. A confidence closely resembling that felt by a
Premier, after the King's recommendation of a bishop
accompanied the conge d'elire to a dean and chapter." —
Theodore Hook, * Merton,' ch. 1.
EDWARD H. MARSHALL, M.A.
Hastings.
CORNISH HURLING (8th S. xi. 108, 210).— The
origin of these savage ball-games is, in my opinion,
to be found in the contention by savages for the
possession and retention of the severed head of a
human sacrifice in the honour of the sun (see
'The Slave-Trade in the Congo Basin,' by E. J.
Glave, Century Magazine, vol. xxxix. No. 6,
April, 1890, pp. 824-838).
The British Shrovetide football play is well
described in the article on ' The Derby Football
Play,' in the Penny Magazine for 6 April, 1839
8»s. xi. JTOE
NOTES AND QUERIES.
511
(vol. viii. No. 450, pp. 131, 132). The article open
with a quotation from the London and West-
minster Eeview for August last, p. 368, of Sou-
vestre's account of la soule, as
"the last vestige of the worship which the Celts paid
to the sun The very word is of Celtic origin, derived
from heaul (soleil), in which the initial h is changed
into s, as in all the foreign words adopted by the
Romans."
Etnile Souvestre's own account of " La Soule dans
le Morbihan," with the " Histoire de Francois le
Souleur," is to be found in his 'Lea Derniers
Bretons/ vol. i. pt. i. chap. iv. § iii., pp. 125-32
(Michel LeVy, 1858, first edition, 1836). In the
People's Journal for 11 April, 1846 (vol. i.
pp. 197-9), is an article on Easter Monday foot-
ball. This, curiously enough, deals almost entirely
with the symbolism of the egg.
"In England the clergy, after service, threw up a
ball in the church, and there was a regular game. The
very archbishops or bishops, if present, threw the ball,
and engaged in the sport with their clergy. This, no
doubt, originated in the egg, which used to be tossed
about, and played with as a ball."
Even a hard-boiled egg would not, perhaps, bear
much tossing ; but in Burgundy, they are rolled,
in a sort of game at bowls, in which the eggs which
are hit or touched are the prize. Hence, a set
of Easter eggs, hard-boiled and dyed, is called a
roulee, much coveted of the youngsters, and not
disdained of the oldsters, who after their match at
egg-bowls adjourn to the village inn and feast on
egg-salad, the losing side probably paying for the
drinkables. No doubt the red-dyed or gilded
Easter or New Year egg does, like the ball and
the pancake, represent the sun. It was, I think,
on New Year's Day that I used to receive presents
of sugar cocks. The executioner who severs the
neck of the African victim wears a headdress of
the tail-feathers of the domestic cock, the world-
wide and world-old bird of the dawn. The head
is flung into the air by the resilience of a bent
down sapling which draws it upward (thereby
keeping the neck tense for the convenience of
severence), by the intervention of a bamboo necklet
fastened to its top by strings. The head is con-
tended for till sundown, when the holder who
has maintained his prize, vi et armis, receives a
reward for his bravery from the head man of the
village. Besides wearing "a cap composed of
black cocks' feathers," the executioner's person,
1 except the eyes, the lids of which are painted
with white chalk," is " blackened with charcoal,"
so that he may be taken as representing the dawn
releasing the sun from his bondage by the powers
of darkness. I have myself seen a cock suspended
in a basket against the wall of a house as the prize
for the winner or winners at a match at nine-pins
in progress beneath it. I never saw any Shrove-
tide cock-fighting or cock-throwing (" cock-shies "),
but I have seen gun-shooting at the wooden figure
of a bird, le tir a Voiseau, answering to the old
"shooting at the popinjay," i.e., at the cock sur-
mounted sun-pole. THOMAS J. JEAKES.
M. F. asks at the first reference if other forms
of hurling are traceable in the United Kingdom.
1 Ohambers's Information for the People,' vol. ii.,
1842, p. 543, says, " Shinty in Scotland, Hockey
in England, and Hurling in Ireland appear to be
very much the same out-of-door sport." Full
descriptions of the games follow. Important
matches played in Phoenix Park, Dublin, and on
Eennington Common are also mentioned with some
details. ARTHUR MATALL.
GRETNA GREEN MARRIAGES (8th S. ix. 61, 149,
389 ; xi. 294, 338).— The following extract from
Black and White, 24 April, headed 'Gretna
Green's Successor/ is entitled to a place in
*N. & Q.' The marrying priest has not yet
passed from the Borders, his photo, * The Priest,'
is reproduced in Black and White.
" Lamberton Toll, the famous roadside marriage-place
on the Border and the most famous rival of Gretna
Green, has recently come into prominence through the
celebration of a romantic midnight wedding. A couple
alighted at Berwick and went to Lamberton, where the
knot was tied at this dividing line between England and
Scotland. Lamberton is exactly on the Border, so that
persons married in a certain room of the toll-house may
claim to have been wed in Scotland, where the ' word of
mouth ' of marriage has not yet been abolished. A long
list of worthies has been associated with the * priest-
hood' of Lamberton, and even now the office is not
vacant."
W. A. HENDERSON.
Dublin.
KELIGIOUS DANCING (8tft S. x. 115, 202; xi.
29, 95).— It is the custom in Calatayud, which has
a railway station on the line from Madrid to Caesar
Augusta, and is an hour's walk to the south from
the ruins of Martial's Bilbilis (traversed now by a
telephone wire and an electric-light wire), on the
banks of the Salo, to celebrate annually, on 17 May
(the birthday of King Alfonso XIII.), the feast of
San Pascual Baylon, in the following manner.
The people hear high mass in the Gothic Church
of the Oonvento de Religiosas de Santa Clara, and
thereafter dance a jota (=hhotd) en masse before
the altar of San Pascual Baylon, to the music of
two dukainas and a tamboril. Then and thence
they follow his image in procession, clicking very
large castanuelas. These are cosas de Espana. A
priest here told me that the baile, or dance, is
literally a popular derivation from the name of
the saint. PALAMEDES.
Calatayud.
EOYAL QUARTERINGS (6th S. viii. 407, 523),—
STRIX told your readers in 1883 that the Duke
of Marlborough is of royal descent through the
Despencers in the person of " Alianoye, the wife.
512
NOTES AND QUERIES. [8»s.xi.ju™2e/w.
of Hugh le Despencer," granddaughter of
Edward I. Which Hugh le Despencer ; and is the
story true ? The two Despencer pedigrees which
I have differ. The one from Blore's ' History of
Rutland ' gives a marriage between Alianora and
one Hugh, son of the Justitiary Hugh, and brother
to Hugh le Despencer the elder. In other words,
this pedigree, which reads doubtfully, gives four
Hughs down to, and including, the elder, and not
including the younger— two of whom are brothers,
their father the Justitiary, and their grandfather.
The pedigree from Edmondson's ' Baronage ' gives
the Chief Justice and one SOD, " Hugh the elder."
Did a brother of "Hugh the elder," also Hugh,
exist ? D.
LABELS ON BOOKS (8th S. xi. 408, 454). —Out a
piece of flannel the exact size of the label ; dip it
in cold water, wring it out, and apply it to the
label ; cover it with a clean piece of blotting-paper,
and then pass a hot iron over it a few times, and
the label can easily be removed with the assistance
of a thin paper-knife. This is an excellent method
for removing those marks of ownership in books
which are known as ex-libris, or of detaching
prints, &c., from old scrap-books, and merely
requires a little care and patience. In the case of
cloth book-covers there is, of course, the chance of
the dye becoming slightly decomposed, but this
must be run if Smith or Mudie is to be dethroned.
W. P. PRIDEAUX.
" ALL MY EYE AND PEGGY MARTIN " (8th S. XI.
146). — "Peggy'* is almost as familiar to me in
this phrase as "Betty"; and I am under the
impression that I sent a note to this effect when
the phrase was last under discussion in ' N. & Q.'
0. C. B.
A NOTABLE OLD LONDON TAVERN (8th S. xi.
204). — Since making my communication at the
above reference I have found in Burn's * London
Traders', Tavern, and Coffee-House Tokens ' (Beau-
foy Cabinet), 1855, pp. 163-4, under "Ludgate
Street," mention of the following token : " ' Henry
Paine, Ludgate.1 Initials, in the field, H. A. P.
Rev., ' At the Dogg Tavern.' A dog, collar and
chain." To this is added a long and interesting
note, chiefly concerning the ownership of the pro-
perty from the time of Elizabeth down to 1671,
during which period it passed from the family of
Hulson (severally described in the deeds as gold-
smiths and scriveners) to one Fabian, and from
him to Richard Graves, whose son Richard leased
in 1649 to Henry Hothersall (or Hotershall), Citizen
and Vintner of London, and sold in 1654 to Martin
Dallison, of Hammersmith, co. Middlesex, gent.
After the Great Fire, viz., in March, 1671, the
latter disposed of the vacant site to Wm. Williams,
of St. Clement Danes, glazier, who rebuilt the
house. The measurements of the land were then
named as 29 ft. N. to S., and 28 ft. 4 in. W. to E.,
having also another parcel annexed thereto, and
formerly used as a courtyard, extending N. to S.
12 ft. and W. to E. 17 ft. 4 in. The tavern, after
being known as the " Queen's Arms," appears to
have successively gone by the signs of the "Bell"
and the "Castle"; subsequently, not later than
1649, becoming the " Talbot or Dogg."
The Richard Graves, Jan., above mentioned was
a bencher and reader of Lincoln's Inn, Clerk of
the Peace, and Receiver-General for Middlesex.
He died 1669, aged fifty-nine. W. I. R. V.
PINCHBECK (7*h S. vi. 269, 437).— I have looked
up the references under this head, and find them
unintelligible. I think it is clear that Christopher
Pinchbeck, the inventor of the alloy which bears
his name, died 18 November, 1732, when his busi-
ness in Fleet Street, at the sign of the Astronomic
Musical Clock, was continued by his son Edward
Pinchbeck (Gent. Mag., 1732, vol. ii. 1083) ; but
beyond this very little seems to be known of the
family. In a broadside in the Brit. Mus. is a
satirical account of the Guildhall Exhibition of
1780, in which Mr. Alderman S is represented
as "engaged with Pinchbeck in constructing a
wooden machine, which would save expense and
the trouble of contested elections," from which it
would appear that the son was no less successful
in bis business than his father, the inventor of
pinchbeck. The 'Annual Register' for 1783
(p. 200) records the death of Christopher Pinch-
beck in March of that year, aged seventy-three ;
but this cannot have been the son of the inventor,
whose name appears to have been Edward.
PROF. SKEAT points out (7tb S. vii. 206) that
pinchbeck is a simplified latten, with a little more
copper and a little less zinc than latten. Latten
contains copper 64 per cent., zino 29 J per cent.,
lead 3^ per cent. , and tin 3 per cent. Pinchbeck
contains 75 per cent, copper and 25 per cent. zinc.
JOHN HEBE.
14, Spring Gardens, S.W.
COUSIN (8th S. xi. 408). — This query seems to
dive very deeply into the annals of the past. In
the first place, freeholds were not devisable at
all by will at common law. But they might be
devisable by some special custom in certain
places. Then a covert method grew up of con-
veying lands to other parties to such uses as
the person conveying should appoint by his will.
This was intentionally restrained by the stat. 27
Hen. VIII. c. 10, the Statute of Uses, upon which
our modern system of conveyancing depends to a
great extent. But five years later the statutes of
32 and 34 Hen. VI II. empowered tenants in fee
simple to devise all their lands held in socage ;
but even then only two-thirds of the land was held
by knight service. It was not till 1645, when all
the military tenures were turned into socage, that
a general right of devising freeholds became estab-
8th S. XI. JUKE 26, W.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
513
lished. As to chattels the principles were quite
different. These were the objects of absolute
dominion, and after a man's death were first
applied in payment of his debts. Of any surplus
which remained he had the power of disposing of
a reasonable part by will. In Bracton's time, if
he had a wife and child, he could only dispose of
one-third. Then, again, the Common Law Courts
had jurisdiction over wills of realty, and the
Ecclesiastical Courts over wills of personalty. I
should fancy in those troublous times men would
not be too anxious to apply to the courts to decide
questions of relationship. Besides, bribery was
rife ; considering that a man of Lord Bacon's philo-
sophic temper pleaded guilty to receiving bribes,
we cannot look for legal decisions in the seven-
teenth century. P. B. WALMSLEY.
Putney, S.W.
In English wills of the sixteenth and seventeenth
century the term "cousin" could not be relied
upon as signifying anything more definite than a
kinsman. JOHN HOBSON MATTHEWS.
Town Hall, Cardiff.
The following passage, extracted from Black-
stone's Commentaries, i. 398, will furnish your
correspondent with the information he requires.
" In writs, and commissions, and other formal instru-
ments, the King, when he mentions any peer of the
degree of an earl, usually styles him ' trusty and well-
beloved Cousin'; an appellation as old as the reign of
Henry IV., who being either by his wife, his mother or
his sisters, actually related or allied to every earl in the
kingdom, artfully and constantly acknowledged the con-
nexion in all his letters and other public acts; from
whence the usage has descended to his successors, though
the reason has long ago failed."
Should J. D. wish for further references, he
should consult « N. & Q.,» 3rd S. vi., vil, xii. ; 4th
S. xii. ; 5«> S. v., vi. ; 7th S. iv., v., vi. ; 8th S. ii.
EVERARD HOME GOLEM AN.
71, Brecknock Road.
SCOTTISH UNIVERSITY GRADUATES (7th S. vii.
388, 454, 493; viii. 35; ix. 435; 8th S. xi.
276). — It may interest Mr. P. J. ANDERSON to
learn that I have in my possession the diploma of
M.A. conferred upon my great-uncle, the late
Rev. Thomas Garratt, while rector of Altcar, Lan-
cashire on 11 April, 1825, by the University of
King's College, Aberdeen. MR. ANDERSON says
the records of graduation of Marischal College
appear to have been imperfectly kept prior to 1826,
but that he will be glad to hear of the existence of
any Aberdeen diplomas of earlier date. Therefore
! presume he includes King's College, Aberdeen.
When in Aberdeen, five years ago, I called upon
the Rev. Prof. Alexander Stewart, D.D., and
showed him the document above alluded to, and he
at once took an interest in it, inasmuch as he
asserted he had never previously seen a similar
seal to that which was affixed to my great-uncle's
degree. The librarian also, whom I have only had
the pleasure of seeing once, corroborated Dr.
Stewart's testimony, and admitted that he also had
never seen affixed to any Aberdeen diplomas a like
seal. I am not certain, but I believe it was MR,
ANDERSON himself who made the statement.
The following signatures are affixed to the
parchment, which, by the way, is as perfect a piece
of engraving (hand) as it has ever been my lot to
peruse : Hercules Scott, Dun. Mearns, A. C<
Dauney, H. Macpherson, Jacob Banner man,
Gulielmus Paul, Joannes Tulloch, Pat. Forbes.
If it is correct that the seal I have mentioned is
the only one known — and I have four years ago
stated what Dr. Stewart said in the columns of
' N. & Q.'— the New Spalding Club shall with
pleasure have a copy of it.
CHAS. F. FORSHAW, LL.D.
Winder House, Bradford.
GlLLMAN OR GlLMAN FAMILY (8lh S. xi. 222,
296, 333, 449).— I have not access to Mr. Alexander
Gillman's history of the family, but I may put on
record that I possess a very curious old water-colour
drawing of ' Grange and Borrowdale,' signed
" M. E. Gillman, 1814." In the foreground is a
two- arched bridge, at one end of which are two
men in conversation ; on the left is a wood ; the
background is made up of mountains. Between
these flows and passes under the bridge a river,
probably the Winster, which at Grange divides
North Lancashire from Westmorland. On the
back of the drawing, in a contemporary hand-
writing with the signature, is written, "Borrow
Dale and the Village of Grainge [/sic] in- Cumber-
land." There is no reference in my edition of
Bryan's 'Painters and Engravers' to this artist.
Any particulars as to her parentage will be appre-
ciated. T. CANN HUGHES, M»A.
Lancaster.
CHURCH REGISTERS (8th S. xi. 442). — We have
endeavoured to obtain a copy of the registers of
Carlton in Lindrick, Notts, but we are informed
that they have not been printed, the authority for
this statement being the Rev. J. Foxley, rector of
the parish named. I think the person who supplied
MR. COLEMAN with the information must have
referred to some one or other of the numerous
Carltons which exist. Will MR. COLEMAN kindly
inform us which one of these it is, for the benefit of
those interested in the local history of the county ?
JOHN T. RADFORD, Chief Librarian.
Mechanics' Institution, Nottingham.
HATCHMENTS IN CHURCHES (8th S. xi. 387, 454).
— May I be allowed to extend the query con-
cerning the survival of a part of the observances of
a funeral conducted by the Heralds' College ?
What became of the hatchments of the family when,
as must often have been the case in a small village.
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church, they accumulated inconveniently ? In case
of the cessation of the custom of transferring to the
church the hatchment which in the first instance
has been exhibited on the front of the house, what
becomes of it ? Is it right to show hatchments on
more than one residence ?
The latest hatchment placed in a church in
which I have a personal interest is of 1830. The
hatchment of the successor, who died in 1860, is
not placed there. There are hatchments on London
houses at the present moment, giving the usual
information as to the deceased and the survival of
widow or widower. It would be easy to ascertain
their destination. KILLIGREW.
Many parish churches some sixty or seventy
years ago had their walls disfigured by hatchments,
i. e. , atchievements, in every stage of decay and
neglect, as Anne Bronte describes them in * The
Tenant of Wildfell Hall ': " Grim escutcheons, with
their lugubrious borders of rusty black cloth, frowned
so sternly from the wall above." These are seldom
seen now ; whether family pride has decayed, or a
better idea of what is fitting for a church now pre-
vails, these hatchments have very generally dis-
appeared. The custom was that on the death of
the owner of some hall or mansion, a hatchment
with his coat of arms was fixed in front of one of
the windows, where it remained exposed to the
weather for a year, and was then taken down and
suspended on the inside wall of the parish church,
there to hang until damp and neglect rendered its
removal necessary. Does this custom still survive ?
I have seen hatchments on houses, but I do not
remember to have seen them placed recently in any
church. It would be worth recording in what
church the last of these is placed.
E. LEATON-BLENKINSOPP.
When I was a boy there were — and perhaps still
are— at least two of these over the vestry door of
the grand old Norman church of St. John the Bap-
tist in Chester. T. OANN HUGHES, M.A.
Lancaster.
WILLIAM CRAWFORD, M.P. FOR LONDON, 1833-41
(8th S. xi. 447).— He unsuccessfully contested
Brighton at the general election of 1832. In an
old parliamentary register in my possession, dated
1838, he is said to be " the son of a Mr. Crawford
who kept a library and the post office in Brighton."
He realized a fortune in the East India Company's
service in India, becoming a partner in the com-
mercial house of Crawford, Colvin & Co. His
residence was at Pippbrook House, near Dorking.
R. W. Crawford who represented London 1857-74
was undoubtedly his son. W. D. PINK.
Robert Wygram Crawford is stated in Debrett's
' House of Commons,' 1867, to have been the
fourth son of William Crawford, M.P., and to have
been born 18 April, 1813. His marriage in 1836
with Margaret Urquhart, daughter of the late Rev.
John Cruickshank, of Turriff, N.B., and the fact
that he had two sons and one daughter, are also
there recorded. JAMBS DALLAS.
LANDGUARD FORT (8th S. x. 515; xi. 35, 96,
236, 276, 414). — I think the enclosed will answer
M.A.Oxon. : —
"The Invalid Companies were originally formed in
1698 from the out-pensioners of Chelsea Hospital, who
at that time numbered 600, and they were at first
divided into four companies of 150 each, quartered as
garrisons at Windsor, Hampton Court, Tynemouth, and
Chester, The original force was subsequently largely
augmented, and in course of time all the garrison towns
of England were garrisoned by it. Each of these Invalid
Companies had a fixed establishment of officers, viz., a
Captain, a Lieutenant, and an Ensign, and by the year
1801 the number of the companies had been increased
to fifty-four. They were disbanded in 1804, and the
officers who had served in them are in the following
years shown in the ' Army List ' as on full pay, and are
therein described as ' late of the Invalid Companies.' '
J. H. L.
The Invalid Companies were artillery used for
service in the garrisons in Great Britain and
abroad. Eight of these companies were raised in
1771. See Perry's 'Rank, Badges, and Dates in
Her Majesty's Army and Navy.'
RICHARD S. FERGUSON.
Anketell Singleton, Esq., a native of the county
of Monaghan, Ireland, Lieutenant-Governor of
Landguard Fort, and fifty-eight years an officer in
His Majesty's service, died 21 Feb., 1804, aged
eighty-two years (monumental inscription in the
parish church of Olaydon, Suffolk).
DANIEL HIPWELL.
JOHN CALLOW (8th S. xi. 368).— The following
letter from John Callow, A.W.O.S., may be of use
to your correspondent : —
DEAR SIR,— I herewith forward for Exhibition at
Preston Two Water-colour Drawings and one Oil Pictur
Titel and Prices you will finde on the other side.
JOHN CALLOW,
20, Charlotte Street,
Feb. 16, 1859. Portland Place, London, W.
No. 1. Dieppe Storm coming on. Price with frame
and glass, 632.
No. 2. Merchant Barque laying to off Dover. Price
with frame, 262. 5*.
No. 3. Dartmouth from near the Castle. Price with
frame and glass, 212.
HILDA GAMLIN.
Camden Lawn, Birkenhead.
In addition to the references given of this artist,
I may call the attention of your correspondent to
the ' History of the Old Water-Colour Society,' by
Mr. John Lewis Roget, vol. ii.
ROBERT WALTERS.
Ware Priory.
* EUORMOS' (8** S. vii. 307).— I am now able to
answer my QWO query as to the authorship of this
8th S. XI. JUNE 26, '97.]
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515
likely that this is the very picture to which MR.
JBAKES refers, I transcribe the above passage.
0. DEEDES.
DR. MURRAY has classical authority — that of
old Sir Pitt Crawley — for sheep being pronounced
ship in Hampshire. In the famous dinner scene,
at Queen's Crawley, when the butler gravely stated
the
menu, comprising ^potage de mouton a
excellent little book on Eton life, which was pub-
lished at Eton by E. P. Williams in 1846. It was
written by the Rev. Richard Lewis Brown, an
Etonian who was captain of the school in 1829, a
Montem year, and therefore received the salt, or
money collected from the visitors to that famous
triennial festival, which was abolished in 1847.
He proceeded to King's College, Cambridge, and
afterwards kept a preparatory school at Old
Windsor, dying there, it is believed, between 1850
and 1860. My informant was one of his pupils,
and I am told by those who knew him still earlier
that he was popular as boy and man, and good at
cricket as well as classics. I cannot ascertain
that he published anything besides 'Euormos,'
which is one of the works inquired about by
H. A. ST. J. M. in his note on 'Etoniania' (8th S.
xi. 401), where its title has been accidentally
changed into the odd-looking word ' Enormos.'
K. MARSHAM-TOWNSHBND.
"HA'PORTH OP TAR" (8th S. xi. 307,331),—
MR. BIRKBECK TERRY notes (8th S. ii. 370) that
Ray's version is " To lose a sheep for a half-penny-
worth of tar," and quotes a couplet from John
Phillips's ' Maronides ' (1673) containing the " hog"
variant. It is easy to imagine a rustic admonish-
ing a niggardly neighbour not to "lose a sheep" I
for want of a little tar; for, says Dyer in his "CLAVUS GRIOPHILI" (8th S. xi. 388, 456).—
1'Ecossaise," and " mouton aux navets " (moutong
onavvy) : " ' Mutton's mutton,' said the baronet ;
'and a devilish good thing. What ship was it,
Horrocks; and when did you kill?'" ('Vanity
Fair,' vol. i. ch. viii,). H. E. M. '
St. Petersburg.
It has long been an article of faith with me that
the saying referred to applied originally to sheep.
Sheep is invariably pronounced ship in Leicester-
shire and the neighbourhood — or was, in my
younger days — and I believe this pronunciation
prevails also in the West of England. The idea
of losing a ship for want of a " ha'porth " of tar is
too obviously absurd; and my opinion that the
saying was not meant in this sense is confirmed by
the fact that nowadays, when applied to ships, it
is very frequently misquoted as, "Don't spoil
your ship for a ha'porth of tar." C. 0. B.
'Fleece':—
The infectious scab, arising from extremes
Of want or surfeit, is by water cured
Of lime, or sodden stave-acre, or oil
Dispersive of Norwegian tar, renowned
By virtuous Berkeley
See that thy scrip have store of healing tar.
I. 285-289, 321.
But we need not attribute vital consequences to
tar in the case of a ship ; so we say "Don't spoil
the ship for a ha'porth of tar," which, whether a
perversion of the sheep proverb or not, is quite
distinct. F. ADAMS.
P.S. — The above was written before the appear-
ance of Sm CHARLES DILKE'S note at the latter
reference.
« i
The celebrated picture of Pystil Rhaidar, in the
dining-room [at Chirk Castle], shows that noble waterfall
tumbling into the sea, where several ships are quietly
riding at anchor. * Pystil Rhaidar,' i. e.t ' the spout of
the Cataract,' is considered the largest fall in Wales
The story of the artist's introducing the ocean with ships
is rather curious He was a foreigner, and but little
acquainted with the English language; and when he
had completed the picture, one of the persons to whom
it was first shown observed that 'a few sheep placed
near the foot of the fall would be a great improvement.1
Misunderstanding sheep for ship, his amazement was
extreme. He, however, took the picture to his easel,
and introduced ships with the necessary element to float
them ! A mistake so humorous determined the pur-
chaser to allow of no further alteration."
G. J. Bennett's 'Pedestrian Tour through
North Wales,' n.d. (c. 1835), p, 69. As I think it
The last two replies under this head throw a
curious side-light upon a very poetical legend
about Saint Gertrude. It is said that the saint,
on contemplating one day the crucifix which hung
Ion the wall of her cell, was so overcome with pity
for the sufferings of Our Lord on Calvary, that
" she drew out the nails which fastened the holy
effigy to the little cross, and in their place inserted
'sweet-smelling cloves" — i.e., it would seem,
clavi caryophylli, clove nails.
JOHN HOBSON MATTHEWS.
Town Hall, Cardiff,
BUSLET (8th S. xi. 324, 430).— The small close
carriage, about half the size of a brougham, in this
part of the country is called a minibus. The door
is behind, and a seat on each side, on which there
is only room for one. In auction sale bills it is
always described as a minibus, and never as a
buslet. R. R.
Boston, Lincolnshire.
FIRST SHIP NAMED (8th S. xi. 329). —God
commanded Noah to build "an ark." The name
is not that of a particular ship, but of a certain
kind of ship, or vessel. Raleigh ('Hist, of the
World,' p. 93), says: "This kind of vessel the
Hebrewes call Thebet, and the Greekes Larnax,
for so they termed Deucalion's ship." The Argo,
therefore, appears (so far as the editorial note
goes) to be the first known ship with a name of
its own. Both the Greeks and the Romans gave
names to their ships. Adam (* Roman Anti-
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quities ') says : "Each ship had a name peculiar
to itself inscribed or painted on its prow ; thus
Pristis, Scylla, Centaurus, &c. Virg. * ^o./y* 116,
&c., called Parasemon its sign, Herodot., viij. 89."
See Acts xxviii. 11 : "And after three months
we departed in a ship of Alexandria, which had
wintered in the isle, whose sign was Castor and
Pollux." In a note to Butcher and Lang's
• Odyssey ' there is reference to M. Chabro's
'Etudes sur PAntiquite" Historique' for informa-
tion on the whole subject of the ships of the
ancients. 0. 0. B.
Epworth.
S AND F (8"» S. xi. 305).— Two instances of
various readings, possibly from confusing s and /,
may be worth giving.
1. In the Rev. A. B. Grosart's edition of Giles
Fletcher's poem ' Christ's Victory and Triumph,' the
reading in part iii. stanza 44 is " And as he fought
to fly from his own heart. " The editor remarks
on this : " I read fought; but I am not sure that
nought is not intended." In Griffith & Farran's
"Ancient and Modern Library" the reading is
sought.
2. In the Wesleyan Methodist Hymn Book
(Hymn No. 126, v. 2) the present reading stands :
In nature's strength I sought in vain
For what my God refused to give ;
I could not then the mastery gain,
Or lord of all my passions live.
This reading appears to have been adopted by
John Wesley in 1780. But what Charles Wesley
wrote was quite different : —
In nature's strength I fought in vain,
For, what my God refused to give,
I could not then, &c.
C. LAWRENCE FORD, B.A.
la the distinction mentioned by MR. WAKEEN
observed in the First Folio edition of Shakespeare 1
If so, the reduced facsimile published by Chatto
& Windus has not reproduced it. The / is
marked with a cross-bar ; but there is no pro-
jection, either right-angled or curved, on the left
side of the s. R. M. SPENCE.
REBELLION OP 1715 (8tb S. xi. 408).— A com-
plete "list of the Rebel Prisoners tried at Liver-
pool, to the 9th of February, with the dates of
their trials ; their designations, and their sentences,"
compiled by Dr. Hibbert Ware, is to be found in
the invaluable Chetham Collection (Old Series,
No. 5, pp. 192-195). There appear to have been
no trials at Manchester, as the men there executed
received sentence in Liverpool, a Whig centre,
where it was deemed safer to conduct this unpopular
assize. GEORGE MARSHALL.
Sefton Park, Liverpool.
"ACELDAMA" (8"> S. xi. 48, 194, 352).— As I
walked through the valley of Hinuom my guide
pointed out Aceldama on the south side. In his
iaouth all the vowels were short, and the c had the
k sound. The accent was on the second syllable,
fn Greek place-names of four syllables the accent
is usually on the second, Salonica not excepted.
JOHN P. STILWELL.
Hilfield, Yateley.
COL. PRIDEAUX tells us that hea/kel is not
Hebrew. He should have said Biblical Hebrew ;
;or if that dialect ever was a spoken language it
must have contained many forms not preserved
in the Bible. JOpH is found in the Hebrew
Targums, certainly compiled for Jews, and the
Greek transliteration into Acel shows that the
guttural cheth was sounded like the soft he. This
we know must have been the case, for in
Assyrian the corresponding form is iklu (field),
which I still think may be compared with ager
and acre. LYSART.
SNEEZING (8th S. xi. 186, 314, 472).— As a
sternutator of experience, I take leave to doubt
whether sneezing be more evitable than measles ;
and though I quite agree with R. R. in thinking it
desirable that it should be controlled, I know that
the "nice conduct" of it is a thing of difficulty.
It is very hard to sneeze with dignity, and it is not
easy to sneeze silently. " Love and a sneeze cannot
be hid "; that was what the old proverb very nearly
said. Perhaps R. R. may not be aware that
paroxysmal sneezing is not seldom a symptom of
disease, and that the skill of the medical and sur-
gical profession is invoked to cope with it. In
other cases it is merely, as Dr. Morell Mackenzie
wrote, " a healthy recognition of an atmospheric
impression," adding that " in moderation [it] is
generally admitted to be a very pleasurable sensa-
tion" ('Hay Fever and Paroxysmal Sneezing,'
p. 68). This I cannot assent unto, though I think
I sometimes feel that the convulsion has uncom-
fortably relieved something ; that it is what snuff
has been accounted, a purgamentum cerebri. Too
much or too little ventilation, electrical disturbance,
sunshine, may rouse the habitual sneezer, and if
R. R. be not of the number he must not claim
much merit. We are " fearfully and wonderfully
made," and nerves, at any rate nowadays, will not
be ignored. According to Morell Mackenzie : —
" In habitual sneezers, when there is no evidence of
structural disease in the nose and most likely also when
there is such disease in that organ, the nerve centre is
probably always in a state of exaltation. These persons
possess the so-called nervous temperament; they are
active both physically and mentally, often to an almost
morbid degree."
R. R. is to be congratulated on his comparative
independence of a pocket-handkerchief ; but there
again let him not be too proud : noses omnes
lingua institutionis, legibus inter se diff&runt. I
am glad that nasal trumpeting is out of fashion,
8th 8. XI. JUNE 26, '97.]
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517
but silk handkerchiefs are to the fore again, and
there are more unlikely things than that Jubilee
year should tend to revive the blasts of the early
Victorian age. ST. SWITHIN. '
P.S. — I take this opportunity of saying that
" sterke » in the Silesian greeting (p. 186) ought to
have been stdrke.
In Mr. Thiselton Dyer's ' Domestic Folk-lore '
there is a reference to the custom of salutation
upon sneezing that carries us further back than
anything in Sir Thomas Browne on the same sub-
ject. Mr. Dyer also gives many curious modern
instances of the custom which are not without
interest to the student of folk-lore. He refers to
* N. & Q.' as the source from which he has taken
some of these.
K. E. is certainly wrong if he thinks that,
generally speaking, sneezing is a matter of habit,
the occasion is
lower orders.
over, especially among the
ERROLL SHERSON.
MISQUOTATION (8tto S. xi. 426).-— Though the
possibly intentional substitution of "ignorant"
and can be controlled. I have known many people
in whom the slightest chill would bring on violent
and uncontrolable sneezing j others there are
who are constitutionally subject to this affection
without apparent cause, and who are daily attacked
by persistent sneezing. I know three generations
of a certain Derbyshire family to all of whom this
remark applies ; the " family sneeze" is somewhat
of a terror to their friends, and a serious affliction
to themselves. Such cases are well known to the
medical profession, and arsenic is prescribed for
them. A case was recently brought under my
own notice of a young man of a very robust habit,
who, after taking a ten-grain dose of antipyrin,
was seized by a fit of really alarming sneezing,
due to the sudden reduction of temperature caused
by the drug. The fit lasted for about fifteen minutes,
during which time he sneezed more than seventy
times with such violence as to bring on congestion
of the blood-vessels of the head ; his face (and
particularly his nose) were swollen almost beyond
recognition, and his appearance generally was so
alarming that medical aid was called in. This is
only an exaggerated case, artificially produced, of
what many people are constitutionally liable to
whenever they " take cold." 0. 0. B.
Epworth.
The blessing invoked on a sneezer in Brazil
doubtless had its origin in Portugal. In an old
book of travels in Portugal it is stated that there I the~weary old Don bethought him when, with one
is a country legend to the effect that when men
and women were first created they were so loosely
put together that a sneeze threatened them with
instant dissolution ; but as they waxed in strength
they sneezed with more confidence and impunity ;
and bystanders, seeing a person sneeze without
falling to pieces, would express their astonishment
and congratulation by ejaculating " God bless you ! "
In Italy the blessing invoked on a sneezer is gener-
ally " felicita ! " (happiness) ; but various other con-
gratulatory forms are in use, and it is very seldom
for " indolent " is a matter which, in view of the
position it occupied in ' N. & Q.,' I should not
have ventured to criticize, I should be glad to be
allowed to take the opportunity to draw attention
to a really remarkable instance of misquotation
recently made by the well-informed writer of
* From the Cross Benches ' in the Observer. In
complimenting Mr. Balfour on his recent state-
ment on Irish finance, he wrote : —
" The minister's statement was modelled on that ad-
dress from the pulpit which extorted the admiration of
the Northern farmer, ' He said what he had to say and
he coomed awa. ' '
That is, Mr. Balfour spoke to the purpose, and
knew when to leave off. If the writer of the article
had been acquainted with the lines to which he
intended to refer, he would have known that the
Northern farmer
— 'eerd 'um a bumnrin awaay loike a buzzard-clock ower
my "ead,
An' I niver knawed what a mean'd but I thowt a 'ad
Bummut to say.
An' I thowt a said what a owt to 'a said, an' I coom'd
awaay.
That is, the hearer, unable to gather the remotest
idea of what the talker was talking about, was
willing to give him credit for saying the right
thing ; and so he — the hearer, not the talker — came
away. What a compliment to Mr. Balfour ! Had
the writer read the lines once in his life, he could
not have made so egregious a mistake.
A contributor (p. 406) draws attention to the
virtue of verifying one's references. We have,
indeed, ghost quotations, some of them of the
highest popularity, ghost references to wrong places
in existing works, or to the works that do not
exist. " God tempers the mint sauce to the roast
lamb, for which you '11 overhaul your Paul's
Epistle to the Athenians." But the lovable old
character who is recorded to have delivered him-
self in this way would have added, with a prudence
which has secured his words an honoured position
on the front page of * N. & Q.,' " When found,
make a note of." It is just the maxim of which
foot in the grave,
thing smart.
he was called
on to say sonie-
KILLIGREW.
" THREE ACRES AND A cow " (8th S. xi. 365, 432,
475). — Lord Rosebery, in his monograph on Pitt
in the series of "Twelve English Statesmen,"
attributes the origin of the phrase to a remark of
Bentham's. Speaking of a certain Bill introduced
by Pitt in the House of Commons, he says (p. 170) :
"There were, indeed, some 130 clauses, more or lees.
One— perhaps the most daring in those days— provided
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that money might be advanced, in deserving cases, for
the purchase of a cow or some other animal producing
profit. Bentham, in his criticisms on the measure, urged
that a cow required three acres of grass, and asked
whence these were to come? Though the question was
not answered [Lord Rosebery continues], the proposal
will be recognized as the germ of a proverbial policy."
H. E. T.
This oombination of ideas is much older than
Mill. In 1797 Pitt brought in a Bill providing,
among other things, for purchasing cows for poor
men. In a criticism of the Bill, written in tha
same year, but not printed till 1838, and apparently
not published till 1843, Bentham pointed out that
each cow would require for her sustenance three
acres of land, and asked how the land was to be
provided. See his ' Works/ vol. viii. p. 448.
H.
McKiNLEY (8tb S. xi. 427). — Dumbartonshire,
formerly known as the Lennox, is usually reckoned
the headquarters of the Mackinlays in Scotland.
In * An Inquiry into the Genealogy and Present
State of Ancient Scottish Surnames/ by William
Buchanan, of Auchmar (Edinburgh, printed and
sold by William Auld, Turk's Close, Lawn-market,
1775), we read (pt. ii. p. 177) :—
" These cadets of other denominations descended of the
family of Drumikill are the Risks, so named from their
ancestors being born upon the Risks of Drymen. The
second cadets of thia kind are the MacEinlays, so named
from a son of Drumikill, called Finlay; those lately
in Blairnyle and about Bellach are of this sort, as also
those in Benachra, and about the water of Finn in Luss
parish. The MacKinlays in some other parts of these
parishes are Macfarlanes."
J. M. MACKINLAY, F.S.A.
4, Westbourne Gardens, Glasgow.
An article in Y Drych, the American Welsh
newspaper, in May or June, 1896, claims that
MacKinley is of Welsh descent, and that the sur-
name is a corruption of Machynlleth, in Mont-
gomeryshire. D. M. R.
THE "BARGHEST" (8th S. xi. 185, 334, 395).—
There are some interesting notes on the meaning
of this word in ' N. & Q./ 4"» S. ix. 279, 350,
412. I have a fragment of a broadside, ' The Bar-
Gaist, or Boggart/ relating to Blakeley or Blackley,
in Lancashire. W. 0. B.
CHAPEL- SNAKE = COBRA DE CAPELLO (8th S. xi.
364, 451). — I was quite aware (from a long resi-
dence in the East) of the unpleasant habit of the
cobra referred to by MR. YARDLEY, and also of
the similarity of the words for chapel and hood in
the Romance dialects ; in fact, it is this very
similarity that led Schweitzer to fall into the error
in etymology (not in fact) to which I drew atten-
tion in my note. Baldseus, in his description of
Ceylon (1672), notes the fact of cobras infesting
houses, especially during the rainy season. I may
point out that Cogan, in his translation (1653) of
Pinto's ' Perigrinacjao ' (1614), translates cobras de
capello by " Adders that were copped on the
crowns of their heads." Had he, in place of this
periphrase, written "copped adders," or "cop-
adders," or "cap-adders," the Portuguese name
might not have become, as it now has, naturalized
in the English language. DONALD FERGUSON.
5, Bedford Place, Croydon.
THE DACRE MONUMENT IN HURSTMONCEAUX
CHURCH (8th S. xi. 406). — Dugdale, in his ' Baron-
age of England, 1675/ intimates that —
" Richard Fienes, Lord Dacre of the South, died 1484-5,
and was buried in All-Hallows, at Herst-Monceaux, and
Joan his wife was laid near him. Thomas, his grand-
son (8th Baron), died 1534, buried in the Parish Church
of Herst-Monceaux on the North side of the high Altar.
Thomas, his grandson (9th Baron), hanged at Tiburn
(29 June, 1541), and buried in St. Sepulchers Church
near Newgate. Gregory, his son (10th Baron), died
without issue 26 Sept., 1549, buried at Chelsey."
' Ancient Funeral Monuments,' by Weaver, cor-
roborates the statement respecting the ninth
baron. JOHN RADCLIFFE.
Let us be accurate. Walpole does not say that
Lord Dacre " was hanged for deer-stealingr," for
such, indeed, was not the case. (Froude, ' Hi-tory
of England/ iv. pp. 120-122.) GUALTERULILS.
FROZEN Music (8tb S. xi. 387).— -Those who
prefer good architecture to bad will read with
pleasure 'The Principles of Beauty/ by John
Addington Symonds, M.D., F.R.S.Ed., London,
Bell & Daldy, 1857. The author shows that
beauty of form is governed by angular proportions
corresponding to the length of strings which vibrate
in harmony. Were architects aware of this, and
did they act on this knowledge, our cities would
not show so many frozen discords as meet our gaze
while walking in their streets.
J. P. STILWELL,
Hilneld.
I find in Madame de Stael's ' Corinne/ bk. iv.
chap, iii., the following expression, in a description
of St. Peter's at Rome : " La vue d'un tel
monument est comine une musique continuelle et
fixee qui vous attend pour vous faire du bien
quand vous vous en approchez." Is it possible
that in the recollection of this passage some one
may have confounded fixle with figee (congealed) ?
In Brewer's Dictionary of Phrase and Fable/ 1895,
p. 491, we read : "Frozen Music. Architecture.
So called by F. Schlegel."
C. LAWRENCE FORD.
Bath,
PROVINCIAL PRONUNCIATION (8th S. xi. 85,
273). — The name of the county town of Fife is
written Cupar, and pronounced Cooper. In an
old map which I saw recently I found it spelt
Cowpar. I have heard of English visitors calling
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it Kew-parr. Once, looking through a library in
Yorkshire, I found a ' History of the County of
Barks ' — so spelt, as now pronounced. In the
same library I found the name of Cardinal Pole,
spelt Poole, as, I believe, pronounced. Compare
the Scotch form of Berkeley, which is spelt Barclay.
James, Earl of Derwentwater, signed his name
Darwentwater. Eailway stations are often respon-
sible for doing away with the ancient and popular
modes of nomenclature. Thus Kilconquhar, not
far from here, was always pronounced Kinneuchar,
but that is dying out, as is Auster, for Austruther.
GEORGE ANGUS.
St. Andrews, N.B.
NOTES ON BOOKS, &o.
Lives of the Saints. By the Rev. S. Baring-Gould, M.A.
Vol. II. February. Vol. III. March. (Nimmo.)
THE second volume of this new and much enlarged
edition of ' The Lives of the Saints ' contains, among
others, the life of St. A venture of Troyes, with its
noble lesson of kindness to animals. His emblem in
art is drawing a thorn from the foot of a bear, as
Androcles did for the lion. That of St. Dorothy, which
forms the subject of Massinger and Dekker's ' Virgin
Martyr,' follows. The life of the strangely named St.
Euphrosyne, who, woman as she was, disguised herself as
a eunuch and lived in a monastery, is told at considerable
length. The story is told how St. Gelasiue, a comic actor
at Heliopolis in Phoenicia, while parodying the Christian
rite of baptism, was converted, proclaimed his faith,
and was stoned to death by the audience. Under St.
Valentine, who died 14 February, are given not only the
life of the one saint who has acquired what may be
called a profane popularity, but the lives of very many
more Valentines of whom little is known. The illustra-
tions, adding greatly to the beauty of the successive
volumes, are numerous. Lucas Cranach's ' Repose in
Egypt,' with the dancing angels, serves as frontispiece. A
quaint design, showing the martyrdom of St. Ignatius,
ia reproduced from the ' Menologium Graecorum,' from
which are also taken 'The Tomb of Joshua' and the
revelation to her father of St. Euphrosyne. Most of the
single figures are from Cahier. * The Purification of the
Virgin ' is from the Great Vienna Missal ; * The Flight
into Egypt ' is after Fra Angelica. Other designs are by
A. Welby Pugin. Designs are also given from a window
in the Cathedral of Tours.
The most important life, from the literary standpoint,
in Vol. III. ia that of St. Thomas Aquinas, commemorated
on 7 March. It occupies near forty pages. St. Thomas,
" the most saintly of the learned and the most learned of
the saints," constitutes an important figure in literature
and history, and a record of his life may be read with
interest by those even who will regard with hesitation or
mistrust the wonders told concerning St. Benedict. The
life of St. Patrick of Ireland, whose mere existence has
been disputed in latest days, is told, as is that of St.
David of Wales. St. Chad of Lichfield, the Archangel
Gabriel (sainted on account of his share in the Annuncia-
tion), St. Gregory the Great, St. Gregory of Nyssa are
amongst those with whom the work deals, and the life of
St. Francis of Rome is condensed from that by Lady
Georgiana Fullarton. In connexion with St. William
of Norwich the whole question of the alleged murder of
children by Jews is opened out. Once more many of the
illustrations are after Cahier. The frontispiece consists
of « The Annunciation,' after Francia, in the church of
St. John Lateran, in Rome. Other Annunciations are
after Israel van Mecken, in the Museum in Munich, and
after a picture in the Museum in Madrid. A memorial
of the Crucifixion, after a picture by Roger van de
Weyden, is also from the collection last named. From
frescoes in the church of San Miniati, near Florence,
painted by Spinelli d'Arezzo, are taken two striking
designs concerning St. Benedict. The Abbey of St. Denis
also supplies many symbolic carvings.
The Cathedral Church of Rochester. By G. H. Palmer
B.A. (Bell & Sons.)
The Cathedral Church of Oxford. By the Rev. Percy
Seamer, M.A. (Same publishers.)
To the admirable series of monographs on English
cathedrals has been added a well-written and trust-
worthy account of Rochester. The historical portion is
admirably lucid and picturesque, the illustrations are
well executed and for the most part new, and the
volume is entitled to rank as one of the best of the
series. In the last chapter the amusing question con-
cerning the tailed men of Rochester, often dealt with in
our columns, is discussed. The Cathedral Library, it is
shown, contains some printed books and MSS. of inuch
value and interest, including the « Textus RofFeusis,' the
varied fortunes of which are described, and the ' Cus-
tumale Roffense.'
In the case of Mr. Scanner's account of the Cathedral
of Oxford, the author claims to have woven with the
knowledge possessed by earlier historians later know-
ledge, which throws the best of previous histories out of
date. Much of this newly acquired information is derived
from two pamphlets of Mr. J. Park Harrison, to which
the author refers his readers. These are 'The Pre-
Norman Date of the Choir and some of the Stonework
of Oxford Cathedral ' and the ' Account of the Discovery
of the Remains of Three Apses at Oxford Cathedral.'
What is said in chapter ii. as to these Saxon apses is of
high interest, and will be new to many of our readers.
George Norland's Pictures : their Present Possessors Bv
Ralph Richardson, F.R.S.E. (Stock.)
ON the first appearance of Mr. Richardson's 'George
Morland, Painter ' we drew attention to the merits of
the work (8"> S. yiii. 100). The present volume, issued
as a supplement, is the result of an attempt to trace the
present possessors of Morland's principal works. Many
proprietors of paintings have responded to Mr. Richard-
son's challenge, and the work, as a first contribution to
a knowledge of the whereabouts of Morland'a pictures
is important. Not a tithe of Morland's pictures has'
however, been traced, and Mr. Richardson awaits
further information.
The Essays of Michael, Lord of Montaigne. Translated
by John Florio. Vol. III. (Dent & Co.)
THE third part of this beautiful and delightful little
reprint gives the first part of the second book of the
original. Among other contents, it comprises the famous
essays on ' The Inconstancie of our Actions ' ' Of
Drunkenness,' ' Of a Custom of the He of Cea,' and ' Of
Books.' It has, like previous volumes, an index and
some excellent notes, and a beautiful etching of the
tower of Montaigne's chateau.
The Consolation of Philosophy of Boethius. Translated
by H. R. James, M.A. (Stock.)
THAT a new translation of Boethius was requisite may
not be said. Boethius ia now, however, in a sense, a
classic, and each generation insists upon having its own
rendering of such. Mr. James's translation, which, like
520
NOTES AND QUERIES. [»»8.xi.jo™2«,w.
the original, is in alternate prose and verse, is excellent,
fulfilling every requirement of the student or the general
reader. He has taken, obviously, much pains with it,
and he has wisely left it unencumbered with a needless
display of erudition. It is in a convenient shape, suitable
for those who care to carry it as a companion. Few
now find time to peruse a work which was the delight of
the Middle Ages, and was translated or imitated by men
such as Alfred the Great, Jean de Meung, Chaucer, and
Charles d'Orleans. If, which is not unlikely, the present
edition brings a few to the appreciation of ' The Con-
solations ' a good purpose will have been served.
In Praise of Music : an Anthology. Prepared by Charles
Sayle. (Stock.)
FROM the many excellent anthologies that have of late
seen the light this volume differs, since most of its
flowers are of prose instead of verse. It consists of a
series — large, of course — of extracts in praise of the
most seductive of the arts, from the Bible down to
modern poets and writers, such as Swinburne, Tolstoi,
and Sully Prudhomme. Sometimes entire poems— Col-
lins's ' Ode to the Passions,' Pope's * Ode on St. Cecilia's
Day,' and the like— are given, sometimes a mere distich.
The conception of the book is happy, and its execution,
so far as it goes, is good. One would suppose, however,
that many volumes of the kind might be compiled. IB
music, moreover, to have precedence of other arts; or
may we not look for the praise of painting? The praise
of poetry we have already had.
A History of Moray and Nairn. By Charles Rampini,
LL.D. (Blackwood.)
THIS is the latest volume iu the series of popular county
histories that Messrs. Blackwood are publishing, and it is
quite up to the average of the other volumes that we have
read. It may be doubted whether, from the point of view
of history, in the highest and fullest sense of that much
slandered term, such books as these are worth publishing;
but if popular synopses of what never ought to be sub-
jected to such treatment are to be written, then we find
in the book before us much to praise. We consider the
plan Dr. Rampini has adopted, of dividing the subject, as
it were, into three semi-distinct subjects — namely the pro-
vince, the bishopric, and the earldom— is a very useful one,
and calculated to make a subject somewhat complex to
the ordinary reader with but little knowledge of his-
torical continuity, much clearer and more easily under-
stood than by treating them all as one. We are much
pleased by finding many of the superstitions, traditions,
beliefs, and games of the people described in a manner
which shows that the author has a sympathetic under-
standing of what he is writing about. We wish that he
would bring out a volume entirely upon these subjects.
Of course, in a book like the one before us it would be
out of place to devote much space to the bygone or pre-
sent beliefs of the people as regards folk-lore; but we
think that a volume might easily be compiled which
should at once be popular and yet of service to the
serious student of folk-lore. This work has, like the rest
of the series, a good index, and most carefully made
maps, both old and new. We can only say, in con-
clusion, that we consider Dr. Kampini has written as
good a book as the circumstances allowed him to do, and
that if the public will take a modicum of history in this
manner, well
If they will have it, let them have it so,
They might more hardly fare did they further go.
L'lntermediaire, like its English prototype, contains
a most diverse collection of notes and of answers to his-
torical, genealogical, and literary questions. The subjects
treated on in the later numbers range from the baptism
of human monsters to Marie Bashkirtseff, from the tri-
colour in the time of Henry IV. and the punishment of
court pages to the iron plaques which were formerly
fashionable as chimney-backs both in France and Eng-
land. Some of these chimney-backe, adorned with coats
of arms, are, it appears, now to be found in their original
position, but with the back placed towards the hearth
and the ornamental front turned to the wall ; a fact to
be explained in the following manner. During the Eeign
of Terror the simple possession of any royal or feudal
emblem whatever brought suspicion on its owner, yet
many persons having plaques armoriees contented them-
selves with simply turning them back to front to escape
detection. At a later time it dropped out of remem-
brance that they had been thus reversed : so now many
of them still remain, out of forgetfulness or pure ignor-
ance, with their faces to the wall as they were placed
when men lived under the sombre shadow of the
guillotine.
Melusine, being exclusively devoted to folk-lore, has
necessarily a more limited range than L' Intermediate.
The number for March and April publishes, among other
articles, a paper on the Polish and Russian practices
illustrating the medical rite of passing a sick person
through a hole to promote his recovery. Another paper
of interest is the one on the asserted ritual murder of the
Jewish Easter.
ASH PARTNERS, LIMITED, have issued 'The Fairies'
Favourite ; or, the Story of Queen Victoria told for
Children,' by T. Mullett Ellis. The life of the Queen is
shown as having been under the special protection of
the fairies.
YESTERDAY began at Messrs. Sotheby's the sale of the
first part of the magnificent library of the Earl of
Ashburnham, of which the illustrated catalogue is itself
an acceptable possession. A glance under such headings
as Bible, Dante, Boccaccio, &c., will show the richness
of a collection which includes a copy on vellum of the
famous Mazarine Bible, bought by the late earl for
3,400Z. The catalogue extends from A to F. Some
beautiful bindings are reproduced.
g0tijc.es to
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and " beasom " read oesomy and besom.
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INDEX.
EIGHTH SERIES.— VOL. XI.
[For classified articles, see ANONYMOUS WORKS, BIBLIOGRAPHY, BOOKS RECENTLY PUBLISHED, EPIGRAMS, EPITAPHS,
FOLK-LORE, HERALDRY, PROVERBS AND PHRASES, QUOTATIONS, SHAKSPEARIANA, and SONGS AND BALLADS.]
A. on "Barley men," 451
Lancashire customs, 398
ABC Railway Guide, suggestion for, 405, 475
A. (E. S.) on " Arse'-verse'," 172
" Maisie hierlekin," 271
Pronunciation, provincial, 85
A. (J.) on peppercorn rent, 415
A. (M.) on long incumbencies, 37
Aback = ago, 36
Abergavenny parish registers, 149, 254
Abraham's bosom, origin of the phrase, 67, 214, 494
Abstinence and fasting, 205
Accounts, mediaeval, 48, 232
Ace of Hearts, a game, 287
Aceldama, its pronunciation, 48, 194, 352, 516
Adair (Sir Robert) and the Order of the Bath, 32
Adams (F.) on Bacon's ' Promus,' 438
Bostrakize, its meaning, 307
" Cat may look at a king," 453
" Clavus griophili," 456
Fable, its author, 397
George III. shilling, 398
" Getting up early," 197
" Greatest happiness of greatest number," 392
"Ha'porth of tar," 515
" Hell paved with good intentions," 437
Kite (Sergeant), 416
Lan thorn, a misspelling, 163
" Let sleeping dogs lie," 209
Nichol, county of, 49
" No birds in last year's nest," 382
Ophelia, the name, 104
Palfrey money, 469
" Round robin," 177
Shakspearian interrogative, 213, 343
" Sitting bodkin," 429
"Tinker's curse," 496
Westchester, its locality, 93
" When sorrow sleepetn," 507
With, the particle, 149
Adders carved on pulpits, 69, 192, 270
Addy (S. O.) on beds in the hall, 346
Eyre surname, 383
Gosford or Gosforth, 117
Hengmand : Hangment, 166
Holly meadows, 304
Hummer Nick : Humbug, 25
Lane, its etymology, 105
"Malignalux,"318
Parish council in 1608, 201
Addy (S. O.) on Warta = work-day, 324
Adjectives, long compound, 11
Aerolites mere fables, 15
Albyterio, writer on agriculture, 408
Alchemy, English books on, 363, 464
Aldenham (Lord) on " Chare-rofed," 192
Phrase, its antiquity, 86
Aldred (T.) on steel pens, 291
Algar or Alger family, 309
Alger (J. G.) on Louis Philippe, 18
Rousseau (J. J.) and 'Hudibras,' 26
Waddington (Henri), 477
Allhallows= Holy Trinity, 328, 436
Alphabet-man, Post Office official, 207, 271, 318, 451
Altar gates, 308, 396
Altar piece, A.D. 1723, 225
Amelia ( Princess), her marriage, 389
American arms and motto, 347, 441
American on Kerry topography, 509
Amphillis, origin of the name, 446
Anderson (P. J.) on Scotch university graduates, 276
Andre* (John), his biography, 8, 56, 192, 238, 297
Andrew (S.) on relics, 67
Angels, as supporters, 384 ; legend of their fall, 483
Anglican Church, use of holy water in, 85, 158
* Anglorum Ferise,' by George Peele, 461
Angus (G.) on Aceldama, 194
Angels as supporters, 384
Bishops, their wigs, 174
Brotherhoods, English religious, 37
Church of Scotland, 191
Church or chapel, 135
Communion table, 33
Conception, Immaculate, 424
Easter riding in Tyrol, 458
Fasting and abstinence, 205
Holy water, its use in Anglican Church, 158
James I., his coronation, 225
' Letters of a Country Vicar,' 425
Lilies of the valley at Canterbury, 311
Mass, daily, 226 '
Papal Bull on Anglican orders, 166
Pronunciation, provincial, 518
" Queen's head " upside down, 476
St. Paul (Sir Horace), 111
Throne, bishop's, 486
Westminster Abbey, evening services in, 213
Animalculae, incorrect plural, 46, 333
Annandale (Earl of) at Fulham, 27
Anon, on a crest, 447
522
INDEX.
Notes and Queries, July 24, 1897.
Anonymous Works : —
Anecdotes of Books and Authors, 16
Beauty's Triumph, 348
Catholicks no Idolaters, 487
Chronicles of Charterhouse, 507
Deccanite, The, 207
Etoniana, 401, 496, 514
Euormos, 514
First Impressions of the New World, 309
Flutter in the Cage, 508
Hardyknute, 55
Synagogue, The ; or, Shadow of the Temple, 168
Tourist in Wales, 448
Travels of True Godliness, 108
Anscombe (A.) on 'Historia Brittonum,' 404
Paul of Fossombrone, 228
Anthem, National. See God save the King.
Apparata, new word, 467
Apperson (G. L.) on early copying machine, 298
" Getting up early," 131
Lincoln (Abraham), 37
Wave names, 32, 132
Wilkins (Mary E.), 48
Aquitaine (Dukes of), their descendants, 369, 433
Arabic star names, 89, 174
Arbitration, a prophecy, 145
Arbour of a church, 247
Ardra, co. Cork, its locality, 317
Arithmetic, Roman, 509
Armiger on Ritchie family of Craigtown, 29
Arminghall, Old, Norfolk farmhouse, 112, 175
' Armorial Families,' note on, 488
Armour, its use in the eighteenth century, 446
Armstrong (T. P.) on Buslet = small omnibus, 324
Epitaph, 413
Army lists of the Civil War, 233
Arnold (Matthew) and Thomson, 203
Arnott (S.) on Queen Elizabeth, 322
Arrows, poisoned, in European warfare, 227, 414
Arse"- verse", its etymology, 46, 172, 374
Arthurian and Graal legends, editions of, 427
Astarte on the peacock as an emblem, 349
Astley (J.) on churchwardens, 95
Astrological signatures, 11, 111
Athill (C. H.) on Sir Franc Van Halen, 131
Atterbury family, 56
Attwell (S.) on "Hell paved with good intentions,"
305
" Large order," 245
Turkey, its name, 344
Vergilius, 137
Auchterarder, its patron saint, 45
Auction, private, with closed doors, 428
Auvergne : " A moi Auvergne," 407
Avis, Christian name, 54, 334
B. (C. C.) on " All my eye and Peggy Martin," 512
Arse'-verse', 374
Carnation, 391
Cherry blossom festival, 313
Church or chapel, 76
Cornish superstition, 497
Cunobelinus or Cymbeline, 450
" Dear knows," 253
"Death-cart," 346
Dymocked, its meaning, 176
B. (C. C.) on eye-rhymes, 253, 357, 490
Fasesying surname, 333
Ghost names, 134
"Ha'porthoftar," 515
' History of Pickwick,' 414
Honeysuckle and clover, 195
Hood (Thomas), his " I remember," 206
Hurling, Cornish, 211
Joan of Arc, 153
Leave off: Aback, 36
" Let sleeping dogs lie," 417
'Mally Lee,' 236
Manus Christi, 353
Parsley folk-lore, 232
Pigeons, trained, 172
' Plain as a pike-staff," 33
Pronunciation, provincial, 273
St. Distaff's Day, 176
Shakspeariana, 223, 343
Shamrock in national arms, 51
Sherley (Sir Anthony), 249
Ship, first named, 515
Sneezing folk-lore, 517
Stag-horn or fox's tail, 227
Stevenson (R. L.) and Burns, 502
Tongue-battery, 332
'Tourist in Wales,' 448
* Travels of True Godliness,' 108
Unicorn emblem and horn, 493
Wart-curing, 278
Whittier (John Greenleaf), 92
B. (E. P.) on Shakspeare and emblem literature, 49
B. (F. P.) on " Your worship " and " Your honour "
248
B. (G. F. R.) on Lady Almeria Carpenter, 56
Colleges, royal, 137
Derwentwater ( Earls of), 275
Grosvenor, East Indiaman, 73
Landguard Fort, 35, 276
Nelson (Hilaire, Countess), 292
Rochester (Earl of), 17
B. (J.) on Lady Hamilton, 326
B. (J. P.) on William Crawford, M.P., 447
Crests and badges, 229
B. (R.) on Beaumont College, 112
B. (R. B.) on definition of genius, 188
Sicily, incident in, 169
B. (R. R.) on " Handicap," 331
B. (T. S.) on Roman arithmetic, 509
B. (W.) on Matthew Arnold and Thomson, 203
Words, longest English, 204
B. (W. A.) on first Easter, 436
B. (W. C.) on " Barghest," 518
British or English, 171
"Cat may look at a king," 452
Chloroform in England, 191
Colleges, royal, 137
* Dictionary of National Biography,' 83
Fable, its author, 397
" Greatest happiness of greatest number," 392
Holly meadows, 473
Law stationer, 133
Nineteenth century, objects in use in, 277
Parish, anomalous, 78
Records, official, 444
St Patrick's Purgatory, 493
Notes and Queries, July 24, 1897.
INDEX.
523
B. (W. C.) on science in the choir, 412
" Three acres and a cow," 433
Unicorn emblem and horn, 493
Whittier (John Greenleaf), 476
B. (W. F.) on lapwing as water- discoverer, 48
Bacon (Francis, Baron Verulam), his ' Promus of
Formularies and Elegancies,' 404, 438
Baddeley (St. C.) on Chaucer and Villani, 369
Horace, ' Sat.' I. v. 100, 257
Knights of St. Lazarus, 190
Lift, early mentioned, 154
Payne : Paganus : Paganelli, 469
Peters (Rev. M.), his ' Fortune-teller,' 89
Prophecy, ambiguous, 281
St. Patrick's Purgatory, 229
Vergilius, 137
Virgil, his epitaph, 329
Waterspouts and whirlwinds, 47
Baddeley (Mrs. Sophia), actress and vocalist, 6
Badges and crests, their uses, 229
Bagster's 'English Hexapla,' introduction to, 407, 452
Baily (J.) on misquotations, 293
Bain (J.) on Bannockburn and Sir H. de Bohun, 443
Baker (O.) on mediaeval accounts, 48
Baldacchino, its etymology, 106
Baldock (G. Y.) on Lord Byron's remains, 470
Ball games, 108, 210, 510
Ball throwing in Red Lion Fields, 1693, 445
Ballad, its source and name, 267, 316
Bannockburn and Sir Henry de Bohun, 443
Baptisteries in England, 149, 151
Bar, trials at, 227, 338
Bar sinister, 345
Barclay- Allardice (R.) on " Sones carnall," 9
Bardsleys, Churchmen, 148
Barghest, its etymology, 185, 334, 395, 518
Barker (Richard), surgeon, his biography, 407
Barley men, its meaning, 387, 451
Barnard on local areas in North England, 367
Barnard (F. P.) on Horace, 'Sat.' I. v. 100, 257
Barrows, materials for, carried in baskets, 132
Bartlett (Lady), her portrait and biography, 347
Bascomb (J. B.) on Hackthorpe Hall portraits, 353
Baskets, earth carried in, 132
Bassi (Ugo), his sermon on the vine, 168
Batchelder (S. F.) on Peter Harrison, 429
Bates (C. J.) on Gosforth, 75
Bath, social amenities at, 485
Batho (F. J.) on wooden pitchers, 292
Bathurst (Miss Rosa), poem on her death, 26G, 299,
393 ; her parentage, 393
Batson (H. M.) on Capt. Butler Cole, 368
Baxter (George), oil colour printer, 291
Bayne (T.) on Burns and Nicol, 66, 231
Gent, the abbreviation, 356
Hogg (James) and Tannahill, 486
Nichol (Prof.), his poems, 104
Pitchers, wooden, 292
Ploughwoman, 312
Rarely, use of the word, 173, 370, 474
Shakspearian interrogative, 88
Thrush and blackbird, 45
" Tongue-batteries," 266
Tryst, its pronunciation, 189
'Untrodden Ways,' 245
Baynham (Sir Ede), his biography, 447
Bazzomy, West-Country word, 486
Beaconsfield (Lord) on peasantry and trees, 324
Beard (J.) on Queen Henrietta Maria, 233
Beaujoie family, 68, 172
Beaumont College, its history, 87, 112
Beaumont (Dr.), his biography, 246, 413, 498
Beaumontanus on Beaumont College, 113
Beaven (A. B.) on Landguard Fort, 97
South Sea Company, 77
Bechatted=bewitched, 255
Beckford family, notes on, 262
Beckford (Alderman), his speech to George III., 386,
454
Bedfordshire May Day custom, 445
Beds in the hall, 346, 475
Beeverell (James), his biography, 51
Belben (E. P.) on harpy in heraldry, 216
Wilkes (John), 454
Bellamy (George Anne), actress, 264
Beloe (William), his ' Sexagenarian,' 16
' Belshazzar's Feast,' a novel, 49, 194
Ben (Chaunting), ballad singer, 208
Bennett (Master William), his biography, 309, 457
Be'ranger (Pierre Jean de) and William Morris, 345,
415
Bernau (C. A.) on Atterbury family, 56
Bevan (S.) on letter of Byron, 293
Beverley (Earl of), his identity, 487
Bevis de Hampton, or Southampton, 207, 258, 396
Bevis Marks, its name and history, 385
Bible, " Aceldama " (Acts i. 19), 48, 194, 352, 516
8vo. edition, 1650, 367
Biblical chronology, early, 182, 358
Biblical sentences in English Liturgy, 35
Bibliographical exhibit at Columbian Exposition, 50 '3
Bibliography : —
Alchemy, 363, 464
Arthurian and Graal legends, 427
Beeverell (James), 51
Beloe (William), his ' Sexagenarian,' 16
Biblical, 367
Blake (William), 302
Blayney (Allan), M.A., 329, 430
Books, removal of labels on, 408, 454, 512
Brandt (Sebastian), his ' Ship of Fools,' 145, 216
Cartwright (W.), his ' Roy all Slave,' 47, 194, 253
Common Prayer Book in Latin, 101, 289
Convocation Litany, 142, 234
'Cries of London,' French translation, 183, 278
Directories, London, 9, 77, 117
Duck (Stephen), 14, 254
Eddis (William), 388
' Eikon Basilike,' 164
Etoniana, 401, 496, 514
Gother (John), Roman Catholic, 52
Jerrold (Douglas), 121, 211, 239
'Journal des Dames,' 189
Lamb (Charles), 114
Lincoln (Abraham), 37
Marlowe (Christopher), 65
Psalter, French, 1513, 326
' Sereu Gomer,' Welsh periodical, 206
Shakspearian, 46
Sharp (Sir Cuthbert), 87, 290, 430
Short (Thomas), physician, 126
524
INDEX.
Notes and Queries, July 24, 1897.
Bibliography :-
Smeeton (George), 507
Smith (John), LL.B., 446
Stevenson (W. B.), 426
Stewart (" Walking "), 488
Stocqueler (Joachim Hay ward), 267, 315
Symmer (Rev. Archibald), 208, 493
Topographical, county, 17, 333
Tourgenieff (Ivan S.), 327
Townley (James), 427
'Travels of True Godliness,' 108
Wilkins (Mary E.), 48
Bickham (George) the elder, engraver, his death, 65
Bill (John), King's Printer, his biography, 282
Binstead, place-name, its derivation, 368
Birchin Lane, its name, 137
Birds, their bills used as ear-picks, 209
Birkenhead (Sir John), retort attributed to, 28
Bishop's throne, curious use of, 486
Bishops, their wigs, 104, 174, 251, 270, 374
Bishops consecrated in 1660, 268, 458
" Black water," prevalent blunder, 506
Black (W. G.) on British or English, 170
Deans, episcopal, 152
Fishing, blessing the, 111
Grammarsow=woodlouse, 473
Money, its value, 408
Novelists, their blunders, 277
St. Leonard, maniple borne by, 346
Scotch clerical dress, 115
" Whippity Scoorie," 226
Blackbird and thrush, contrast between, 45
Blacksmith shoeing his wife, 5, 56
Bladud on municipal precedence, 408
Blake (William), books illustrated by, 302
Blanckenhagen surname and family, 247, 312, 377
Blashill (T.) on " Blencard," 273 '
Blayney (Allan), M.A., his biography, 329, 430
Blencard, a beverage, 273
Blenheim, battle of, Scots Greys at, 367, 397
Blenkinsopp (E. L.) on legend of fall of angels, 483
Aquitaine and Normandy (Dukes of), 369
Champion of England, challenge to, 349
Divining rod, 133
Hatchments in churches, 514
Matches, early lucifer, 437
Blue Coat on Knightley Smith, 108
Boar, parish, 57
Boase (G. C.) on Blanckenhagen surname, 312
Door-plates, noblemen's, 328
Henry (Jean Etienne), 25
Opie (Amelia), 181
Paris (Dr.) and Dr. Penneck, 481
" Sole is bread and butter of fish," 448
Bob=an insect, 229, 313, 476
Boddington (R. S.) on Abergavenny registers, 149
Morgan family, 228
Bodmin, Cassiter Street in, 235
Boger (C. G.) on Joffing steps, 189
' Middlemarch,' passage in, 214
Oak boughs, 35
Parish, anomalous, 78
Boisseau, old French measure, 171
Bolas (Thomas), his biography, 27, 74, 336
Bonaparte (Princess Mathilde), her biography, 129,
177
Bonaparte (Napoleon) on the Bellerophon, 248
Book titles wanted, 406, 428, 451
Books recently published : —
Andre ws's (W.) Legal Lore, 199
Angot's (A.) Aurora Borealis, 120
Antiquary, Vol. XXXII. , 138
Axon's (W. E. A.) Bygone Sussex, 80
Baddeley's (St. C.) Robert the Wise and his
Heirs, 418
Baring-Gould's (S.) English Minstrelsie, 59, 478 ;
Lives of the Saints, 339, 519
Barrere (A.) and Leland's Dictionary of Slang,
Bax's (B. P. I.) Cathedral Church of St. Asaph
159
Beeching's (H. C.) Paradise of English Poetrv
119
Bewes's (W. A.) Church Briefs, 79
Bibliographica, Part XII., 218
Boase's (F.) Modern English Biography, Vol. II.,
440
Book-Prices Current, Vol. X., 119
Brushfield's (T. N.) Raleghana, 60; Devonshire
Briefs, ib.
Burns's Poetry, ed. by W. E. Henley and T. F.
Henderson, Vol. II I., 179
Calendar of State Papers relating to Ireland, 19
Carlyle's Abhandlung iiber Goethe's Faust, ed.
by R. Schroder, 120
Carpenter's (F. I.) English Lyric Poetry, 459
Cathedral Series : Canterbury and Salisbury, 80
Cave's (H. W.) Ruined Cities of Ceylon, 179
Chalmers's (P. M.) Scots Mediaeval Architect, 19
Clarke's (W. A.) British Flowering Plants, 180
Clergy Directory, 218
Cole's (R. E. G.) History of Doddington, 460
Dasent's (Sir G. W.) Icelandic Sagas, 359
Dictionary of Birds, 60
Dictionary of National Biography, 38, 319
Directory of Titled Persons, 219
Du Bois's (B.) Suppression of African Slave-Trade,
260
Earle's (A. M.) Colonial Days in Old New York,
20
Eeles's (F. C.) Bells of Kincardineshire, 440
English Dialect Dictionary, 59
English Dialect Society's Glossaries, 239
Examples from Early Printed Books, 439
Ex-Libris Society's Journal, 400
Farmer's (J. S.) Merry Songs and Ballads, 340
Fea's (A.) Flight of the King, 398
Feltoe's (C. L.) Sacramentarium Leonianum, 239
Folk-lore Society's Transactions, 500
Gasquet's (F. A.) Old English Bible, 459
Genealogical Magazine, No. L, 420
Gibbon's Autobiographies, ed. by J. Murray, 98 ;
Private Letters, ed. by R. E. Prothero, ib.
Goddard's (W.) Satiricall Dialogve, ed. by J. S.
Farmer, 358
Harward's (Lieut. -General) Hereward, 100
Hazlitt's (W. C.) Four Generations of a Literary
Family, 118
Hiatt's (C.) Cathedral Church of Chester, 340
Hodgkin's (J. E.) Manuscripts, 419
Houston's Nullification in South Carolina, 299
Notes and Queries, July 24, 1897.
INDEX.
525
Books recently published :—
Hunt's (Leigh) The Months, 459
Hunter's (Sir W. W.) Thackerays in India, 199
Jaccaci's (A. F.) On Trail of Don Quixote, 359
James's (E. B.) Letters relating to Isle of Wight,
240
James's (H. R.) Boethius, 519
Jusserand's (J. J.) Romance of a King's Life, 60
Kielland's (A. L.) Norse Tales and Sketches, 80
Lane's (E. W.) Cairo Fifty Years Ago, 80
Lang's (A.) Pickle the Spy, 99
Leighton's (J.) Book-Plate Annual, 218
Levi's (E.) Transcendental Magic, translated by
A. E. Waite, 59
Liddall's (W. J. N.) Place Names of Fife and
Kinross, 138
Macalister's (R. A. S.) Ecclesiastical Vestments, 259
Macdonald's (J. C.) Chronologies and Calendars,
400
Maitland's (F. W.) Domesday Book and Beyond,
259
Maxwell's (Sir H.) Dumfries and Galloway, 159
Montaigne's Essays, translated by Florio, 459, 519
Moore's (E.) Studies in Dante, 78
Morris's (M. C. F.) Francis Orpen Morris, 399
Munro's (R.) Prehistoric Problems, 439
Naval and Military Trophies, 279, 419
Nevius's (J.) Demon Possession, 180
Oxford English Dictionary, 58, 206, 320
Palmer's (G. H.) Cathedral Church of Rochester,
519
Peterborough's (Bishop of) Early Renaissance in
England, 320
Pierce (G. A.) and Wheeler's Dickens Dictionary,
200
Plummer's (C.) Baedae Historia Ecclesiastica, 280
Pulling's (A.) Order of the Coif, 400
Rampini's (C.) History of Moray and Nairn, 520
Renton's (A. W.) Encyclopaedia of Laws of
England, Vol. I., 198
Richardson's (R.) George Morland's Pictures, 519
Roberts's ( W.) Memoirs of Christie's, 498
Rosen's (L.) Napoleon's Opera Glass, 99
Rye's (W.) Records and Record Searching, 58
St. Bartholomew's Hospital Reports, 1 00
Sayle's (C.) In Praise of Music, 520
Schroder's (R.) Carlyle's Abhandlung tiber
Goethe's Faust, 120 -SM**
Scottish Poetry of Eighteenth Century, Vol. II.,
120
Seager's (H. W.) Natural History in Shakespeare's
Time, 399
Seamer's (P.) Cathedral Church of Oxford, 519
Shelton's Don Quixote, edited by J. Fitzmaurice-
Kelly, 159
Sinker's (R.) Librarians of Trinity College,
Cambridge, 379
Soldi's (E.) La Langue Sacred, 180
Stevenson (R. L.) and Henley's Deacon Brodie,
100
Stimson's (F. J.) King Noanett, 360
Sweet's (H.) Student's Dictionary of Anglo-
Saxon, 359
Swift's Prose Works, Vol. I., 459
Thorpe's (W. G.) Hidden Lives of Shakespeare
and Bacon, 240
Books recently published :—
Walton and Cotton's Compleat Angler, ed. by
R. Le Gallienne, 279
Watkins's (M. G.) Gleanings from Natural
History of the Ancients, 400
Whitaker's Almanack for 1897, 20
White's (W. H.) Wordsworth and Coleridge
MSS., 499
Who 's Who, 1897, 360
Wood's (K. R.) Quotations for Occasions, 80
Yarker's (J.) Continuation of Comte de Gabalis,
499
Boonded, dialect word, 47
Born days, the phrase, 153
Borrajo (E. M.) on Bevis de Hampton, 258
Bostock (R. C.) on Sir William Gascoigne, 271
Kite (Sergeant), 416
Bostrakize, its meaning-, 307, 414
Boswell (R. B.) on Blanco White, 45
Bow Street Police Station, its demolition, 184
Bowen (Lord), articles by, 328, 458
Bowpit rain, weather phrase, 66
Braal, Scotch dialect word, 107
Bradley (H.) on " Free lance," 87
Fullams= loaded dice, 426
Bradley (J. W.) on epigrammatic inscription, 268
Braeme (Thomas), circa 1640, 347
Brandt (H. C. G.) on Poke, game at cards, 308
Brandt (Sebastian), his ' Ship of Fools,' 145, 216
Brang, its meaning, 227, 295
Breden Stone at Dover, 424
Breet=flood, 127
Breton folk-music, 248, 279
Breve, musical term, 15
Brewer (Rev. E. C.), LL.D., his death, 220; on
« God save the King," 50
Bridge, Roman, over the Calder, 147
Bright (A. H.) on "Peace with honour," 127
Brighton : Brighthelmstone, change of name, 255
Brigstocke (Owen), his biography, 168, 257
British, meaning and use of the word, 3, 62, 170
Brogden (T. W.) on eagles captured at Waterloo, 89
Waterloo and Eton, 114
Bronze, its preservation, 368
Brooch, Anglo-Saxon, 468
"Broom and mortar" for scolds, 306, 417
Brotherhoods, English religious, 37
Brougham (Henry, Lord) on belief, 487
Browne (G. A.) on psalm tune, 408
Wreck, captive from, 467
Brownen (G.) on Nonconformist ministers, 109
Browning (Robert), as a preacher, 28, 92 ; his
maternal ancestors, 261, 369
Broyant, its meanings, 207
Bruce (Countess), her identity, 409, 478
Brudenell (Hon. Mary), her parentage, 427
Bruggencate (K. ten) on ' Middlemarch,' 334
Sherl, its meaning, 455
Brummell (Beau), his biography, 269, 316
Brushfield (T. N.) on earth carried in baskets, 132
"Broom and mortar," 417
Criminal family, 226
Mainwaring surname, 55
Rjilegh (Sir W.), his library, 109
References and quotations, 406
Well, suffix in place-names, 217
526
INDEX.
Notes and Queries, July 24, 1897.
Bryan (V.) on Rev. John Gother, 52
Bryant (William Cullen), his birth, 135
Buck=boast, 409
Buckingham House, College Hill, its site, 129
Bugalug, Dorset word, 247
Bull, Papal, on Anglican orders, 166
Bull, parish, 57
Bull dogs and bull and bear baiting, 209
Bullock (C.) on Miss Fairbrother, 267
Burke (Edmund), his portraits, 87, 214
Burke (V. E.) on a book title, 428
Burns (Robert), his friend Nicol, 66, 171, 231 ; and
R. L. Stevenson, 502
Burs=oxen, 267
Burton, Gost House at, 248
Burvil=bed, 426
Busket, a beverage, 287
Bu8let = sniall omnibus, 324, 430, 515
Butler (Samuel) and Tennyson, 6
Butler (Thomas). See Butler Cole.
Butler (William), serjeant-at-arms to Henry VIII.,
68, 193
Butterworth (R.) on Col. Galatin, 487
By, its dialect uses, 247
Byron (George Gordon, sixth Lord), pronunciation of
" Giaour," 13 ; letter on ' The Vampire,' 293 ; his
birthplace, 348, 389 ; home-coming of his remains,
421, 470
C. on John Andre", 192
Politician, use of the word, 333
C.R. on royal arms tablet, 509
C. (A. G.) on Marlowe's ' Edward II.,' 65
Rigmarole, its etymology, 154
C. (B.) on " Alphabet-man," 318
Shakspeariana, 343
Spider folk-lore, 30
C. (C. H.) on Sir James Saunderson, 508
C. (E.) on Henry or Richard Cornish, 447
Harvey (Samuel Clay), 208
C. (E. A.) on baptisteries in England, 149
Stewart (" Walking "), 488
C. (E. F. D.) on armour in eighteenth century, 446
C. (F. H.) on Haddon Hall, 148
Kernel or crenelle, 207
Le Franceys (Gilbert), of Haddon, 128
Vernon family of Haddon, 327
C. (G. E.) on Chaworth family, 277
Derwentwater (Earls of), 332
Heraldic supporters of English sovereigns, 156
Killigrew (T. G.), 50
Packe (Christopher), 451
C. (I. F. M.) on John Clayton and Dr. Deacon, 308
1 Synagogue, The,' 168
C. (R. S.) on Culloden medal, 407
C. (T. W.) on Cowdray : De Caudrey, 35
Cabal, origin of the word, 293
Cabot (John) and the Matthew, 501
Cacorne, its meaning, 307, 432
Cadock, its meaning, 367
Caen Wood, Higbgate, 384, 456, 498
Cagots, their history, 28, 298, 333
Caif, Scotch word, 387
Caitiff, as an adjective, 446
Calder, the river, Roman bridge over, 147
Caledonia on bridge over the Calder, 147
Calendar letters, 249
Callow, its etymology, 466
Callow (John), artist, his biography, 368, 514
Calverley (C. S.), his ' Fly-Leaves,' 428, 451
Calverley (Sir Henry), his death and family, 87
Cambridge epigram, 14
Cambridgeshire histories, 408, 472
Cameron (A. C. G.) on Sir William Grant, 156
Camm (Dom B.) on Thomas Braeme, 347
Roberts (John), 448
St. John Baptist's Abbey, Colchester, 147
Candles, thieves', 268, 397, 458
Candy (F. J.) on Pasco and Pascoe, 333
Canterbury, lilies of the valley at, 245, 311
Capellanus, its meaning, 147
Cappel-faced, its meaning, 487
Cardiff girls, dowry for, 384
Cards, Chinese, 76, 150, 214
Care creature, the phrase, 507
Carey (T. W.) on Ossory, 489
Carlyle (E. I.) on W. B. Stevenson, 426
Carnall, its meaning, 9, 218, 317
Carnation, flower and colour, 307, 391, 476
Carpenter (Lady Almeria), her biography, 56, 136
Carr (F.) on Scrimshaw family, 271
Carrick, its etymology, 287, 339, 411, 494
Carrick family, 256, 312
Cartwright (W.), his ' Royal Slave,' 47, 194, 253
Casanoviana, 42, 242, 461
Cass (C. W.) on Oxford and Cambridge epigram, 15
Cattle, winter food for, 405
Caul, silly-how, or silly-hood, 144, 234
Cawk and corve, their meaning, 406
Celer et Audax on " Abraham's bosom," 494
Aerolites, 15
Biblical chronology, early, 358
Celtic grave slabs, 506
Divining rod, 134
Duddington Church, 48
Easter, first, its date, 335
Font stone, 485
"God save the King," 111
" Hell paved with good intentions," 437
" Lazy Lawrence," 235
Vinci (Leonardo da), his ' Last Supper,' 52
Yew trees, their age, 276
Celtic grave slabs, 506
Centenarianism, 7 ; designations for, 54
Centurion on 39th Foot Regiment, 265
Chalice cases, leather, 55
Chalking the unmarried, 275
Chamberlayne family of Cranbury, 88
Champion of England, challenge to, 349, 457
Chance (F.) on D'Israeli surname, 484
Guillotine, its history, 22
" Round robin," 130
" Ruffin " drop, 385
' Chanson de Roland,' 368
Chapel or church, 76, 135
Chapels, proprietary, 447
Chapel-snake= cobra de capello, 364, 451, 518
Chapman (J.) on silver plate, 327
_ Chare-rofed, its meaning, 74, 192, 355, 396
1' Charles I., the Juxon medal, 145, 178 ; and the ' Eikon
Basilike,' 164 ; his Prayer Book, 187 ; his escape
from Hampton Court Palace, 387
Notes and Queries, July 24, 1897.
INDEX.
527
Charles II., " They will never cut off my head," &c.,
30 ; pen-and-ink drawing, 327
Charterhouse, 'Chronicles' by W. J. D. R., 507
Chaucer (Geoffrey), " Gnoffe," 56, 152, 198 ; and
Villani, 205, 369
Chaunting Ben and Sally, ballad singers, 208
Chaworth family pedigree, 128, 232, 277
Chelmsford murder, verses on, 267, 393
Cheney Gate, origin of the name, 489
Chercheur Francais on Georges- Jean Mareschal, 187
Cherry blossom festival, German, 248, 312, 453
Cheviot on Sir Horace St. Paul, 111
Chevron Erin, on heraldic query, 87
Chichester, arms of the see, 131, 169
Chinese folk-lore, 165, 235, 277, 477
Chinese playing cards, 76, 150, 214
Chiswick, Mr. Ranby's house at, 122, 195
Chloroform, its first use in England, 146, 191, 412
Choir, science in, 349, 412, 498
Christian names : Avis, 54, 334 ; Joyce, 54, 334 ;
Utakeah, 64 ; Ysonde, 73 ; Ophelia, 104 ; Pasco
and Pascoe, 208, 333 ; Jessica, 217 ; Dolor, 388,
473 ; Amphillis and Amfelicia, 446
Christmas Day and Churches of France and England,
78
Christmas decorations, bad luck to burn, 264
Christmas flower custom, 106
Christmas morning, curious verses on, 808
Chronology, early Biblical, 182, 358
Chronology, monkish, era in, 387
Church, Saxon wooden, 388
Church ceremonies, comb in, 94
Church of England, use of holy water in, 85, 158,
234 ; record of its clergy, 249
Church of Scotland, 27, 97, 191
Church or chapel, 76, 135
Church porches, galleries in, 9, 136
Church tower buttresses, 51, 136, 318, 394, 451
Churches, position of communion table in, 33 ;
hatchments in, 387, 454, 513
Churchwardens, their election, 12, 95 ; female, 65
Chute (John and Francis) and Walpole, 346
Circumlocution by official witness, 85
Civil War army lists, 233
Civilian on Buck= boast, 409
Clarel family, 28, 136
Clark (H. R.) on Kidderminster Castle, 488
Clarke (C.) on Byron's birthplace, 348
Motto, 466
Tenification, new word, 509
Clarke (E.) on John Smith, LL.B., 446
Clarke (Mary Cowden), publication of her ' Concord-
ance,' 188, 313
Classon family, 168, 255, 412
" Clavus griophili," in thirteenth century grant, 388,
456, 515
Clayton (E. G.) on Princess Amelia, 389
'Bleak House, ' burial-ground in, 115
Epitaph, 164
Harpy in heraldry, 431
Hole House, 392
Newspapers, early, 18
Noblemen, their door-plates, 378
'Old Mortality, '255, 371
Pet worth registers, 192
Returns, its meanings, 476
Clayton (E. G.) on wife iron-shod, 56
Clayton (John) and Dr. Deacon, 308
Clements (H. J. B.) on Molly Lepel, 57
Clerical dress, Scotch, 115, 218
Clock, its age, 168
Clock saved a man's life, 389, 417
Cocaine, its pronunciation, 485
Cocktail, origin of the word, 96
Cock-throwing, popular pastime, 388
Coins : " six-and-thirties " and double pieces, 107, 175 ;
Halifax shilling, 128, 396, 497 ; Yorkshire half-
penny, 128, 396 ; George III. shilling, 308, 398
Colby, Norfolk, font at St. Giles's, 8, 136
Colchester, oyster feast at, 92 ; St. John Baptist's
Abbey, 147, 178
Colchester members of Parliament, 288, 412
Cole (Butler), his biography, 32
Cole (Capt. Thomas Butler), his identity, 368
Colegate (Richard), his family and biography, 467
Coleman (E. H.) on Abergavenny registers, 254
Allhallows=Holy Trinity, 436
" Alphabet-man,'" 271
Baptisteries in England, 252
Beds in the hall, 475
Bob=an insect, 313
Brummell (Beau), 316
Byron (Lord), his birthplace, 390
Cagots, their history, 298
Cherry blossom festival, 312
Church porches, galleries in, 10
Church tower buttresses, 51
Churchwardens, their election, 1 2
Coin, " six-and-thirties," 175
Costa (Sir Michael), 211
Cousin, in wills, 513
Crops, praying for, 466
Derby Day, its fixture, 498
Dog Row, Mile End, 436
' Dublin Gazette,' 495
Emigrate, licences to, 178
Faulkner (B. R.), 276
Forest cloth, 12
Graves, artificial flowers, &c., on, 427
Hatchments in churches, 455
Hellequin : Harlequin, 430
Henrietta Maria (Queen), 233
Hertford Street, May fair, 94
Jacks o' the clock, 314
Lapwing as a water-discoverer, 238
London public-houses, 497
McGillicuddy surname, 353
Monson (Lord), 11
O'Brien (Stafford), 235
Peters (Rev. M. W.), R.A., 213
Petworth registers, 56
Pewter ware, old, 212
Registers, printed, 442
"Sitting bodkin," 354
Sligo Corporation seal, 451
Spanish Armada, 394
Steam navigation, early, 88, 297
Stepney Church, 413
Stowe MSS., 195
Taylor (Tom), 458
Tottenham Court Road, theatre in, 32
Type-writing machine, 445
528
INDEX.
Notes and Queries, July 24, 1897.
Coleman (E. H.) on Vine = pencil, 392
Yeomen of the Guard, 496
Colleges, royal, 68, 137
Colombo, its siege, 349, 438
Columbian Exposition, bibliographical exhibit at, 503
Comb in church ceremonies, 94
Common Prayer Book of Church of England, Biblical
language in, 34 ; Latin versions, 101, 289
Commons House of Parliament, surviving pre-Vic-
torian members, 465
Communion table, its position, 33
Comptroller of the Pipe, his office, 508
Conception, Immaculate, its promulgation, 424
Conner (P. S. P.) on ship Constitution, 492
Stoke St. Gregory, 28
Conservative as a political term, 494
Constitution, the ship, 367, 492
Convicts in England in eighteenth century, 447
Convocation, Latin Litany recited at opening, 142, 234
Copying machine, early, 226, 298, 337
Corbet (Elizabeth), epitaph and biography, 28, 150,
215, 411
Corbington (Robert) and the inscriptions at Loreto,
381
Cordwainer=shoemaker, 52
Cormac or Cormack name and family, 389
Cornish hurling, 108, 210, 510
Cornish superstition, 384, 497
Cornish (Henry or Richard), Sheriff of London, 1680,
447
Coronation memorial mugs, 91
Corve and cawk, their meaning, 406
Costa (Sir Michael), his father, 129, 211, 239, 252,
317, 372
Cotes-Preedy (D. H. W.) on Sir William Gascoigne,
272
CottereU (S.) on first British steamboats, 288
Counties, topographical collections for, 17, 333
County families, oldest work on, 87, 131
Court-martial, death sentences under, 127, 275
Cousin, in wills and deeds, 408, 512
Cowdray, place-name, 35
Cowell (B.) on Raleigh=Greene, 67
Cowper (J. M.) on " Broom and mortar," 306
Edward the Black Prince, his sword, 49
Crattle, rare word, 445
Crawford (William), M.P., his family, 447, 514
Cree (J.) on Henry Rogers, 285
Crenelle, its meaning, 207, 455
Crest, dove with olive branch, 447
Crests and badges, their uses, 229
Cre'sus, its meaning, 448
Cricket, notches and notching at, 341, 414, 473
Cricket match, first inter-university, 183
1 Cries of London,' French translation, 183, 278
Criminal family, 226
Criticism, its curiosities, 184
Crops, praying for, 466
Crosby family, 468
Cross family, 507
Crotchet, musical term, 15
Crw, its meaning, 407, 438
Culleton (L. ) on stained glass, 7
Culloden medal, 407, 452
Cummings (W. H.) on Sir Michael Costa, 239, 317
Gloucester (Duke of), 18, 74
Cummings (W. H.) on " God save the King," 358
Cunobelinus, or Cymbeline, 13, 132, 356, 450
Cupples, place-name and surname, 431
Cupples (J. G.) on William Cupples, 207
Cupplestown in Ireland, 27
Cupples (William), Lieut.R.N., his biography, 207
Cupplestown in Ireland, its locality, 27
Cycling, ancient, 30, 136
Cymbeline, or Cunobelinus, 13, 132, 356, 450
D. on Louis Philippe, 18
Military banners, 473
Quarterings, royal, 511
Raphael cartoons, 107
Scots Greys at Blenheim, 367
Waddington (Henri), 458
Wigs, bishops', 270
D. (A. M.) on French invasion of Fisbguard, 226
" God save the King," 11
Stag-horn or fox's tail, 352
D. (C. E.) on the Vyne in Hampshire, 444
D. (C. W.) on Lord Nelson's breeches, 426
D. (E.) on 'Privy Purse Expenses of Elizabeth of
York,' 107
D. (F. B.) on « Old Woman and her Maids,' 328
D. (J. H.) on Hayne and Haynes, 232
D. (M. D. B.) on John Andre', 297
D. (S. G.) on St. Dunstan, 328
Words, longest English, 396
Daborn (Robert), his biography, 67
Dacre monument in Hurstmonceaux Castle, 406, 518
Dadle or daddle, its meanings, 226, 313, 456
Dairymaids, cutting off their hair, 30, 372
Dallas (J.) on William Crawford, M.P., 514
Dally, its derivation, 486
Dalton (C.) on Field- Marshal Studholme Hodgson,
265
Dancing, religious, 29, 95, 511
Danteiana, 361
Danvers Street, Chelsea, inscribed tablet, 206, 314, 431
Darnley (Henry, Lord), silver medal, 488
Darvel Gadarn, Welsh saint, 407, 450
Davey (H.) on " God save the King," 323
Davies (G.) on Countess Bruce, 478
Ghost story, best, 248
Shot, in place-names, 273
Davies (R.) on Dean Rowland Davies, 287
Davies (Dean Rowland), of Cork, his 'Journal,' 287
Davis (Judge), of Cornwall, his biography, 328
Davy (A. J.) on " Cacorne," 432
Day's work of land, 248, 352
Deacon (Dr.) and John Clayton, 308
Deans, episcopal, 152
"Dear knows," the phrase, 5, 57, 175, 253
Death cart, an omen of death, 346
Death tokens, 13
De B. (F.) on Sligo Corporation seal, 327
De Berneval (G.) on William Cullen Bryant, 135
De Bohun (Sir Henry) and Bannockburn, 443
De Brus surname and family, 457
De Caudrey family, 35
De Courtivron (Vicomte), his biography, 128
Deedes (C.) on " Clavus griophili," 388
" Ha'porth of tar," 515
Dees (R. R.) on law stationer, 377
Opie (Amelia), 276
Notes and Queries, July 24, 1897.
INDEX.
529
De Ferrers of Chartley barony, 286
De la Pole on Cha worth family, 128
De la Pole (Rachel), her family, 94, 178, 216
De Mors on Leech family, 87
D'Eon (Chevalier), details in ' Historical Manuscripts
Keport,' 344
Derby Day, its fixture, 447, 498
Derwentwater (Earls of), queries about, 208, 275,
332 396
De Salis (R.) on Hotham family, 347
Waller (Edmund), 287
Dewsberry family of Dewsberry Hall, 387
" Di bon," its meaning, 151
Dibdin (E. R.) on early copying machine, 298
Dickens (Charles), burial-ground in ' Bleak House,'
115; notes on 'History of Pickwick,' 341, 414,
473 ; American continuation of ' Edwin Drood,'
508
* Dictionary of National Biography,' notes and correc-
tions, 83, 166, 205, 285, 365, 453
Digby (Sir Kenelm), his inheritance, 8
Dilke (Sir C. W.) on " Ha'porth of tar," 331
Louis Philippe, 18
Dionysius, inscription on old tapestry, 88, 175, 234
Dipsomania, strange cure for, 306
Directories, London, 9, 77, 117
Disannul, use of the word, 74
Dispatch, not despatch, 184, 432
D' Israeli surname, 484
Divining rod, 133, 253
Dixon (B. C.) on Nonjurors, 52
Dixon (F.) on 39th Foot Regiment, 491
Doble (C. E.) on "Greatest happiness of greatest
number," 392
Dog gates for staircases, 488
Dog Latin, early examples of the words, 423
Dog Row, Mile End, its name and history, 325, 435,
473
Dollar on " Facts are stubborn things," 135
Dolor as a Christian name, 388, 473
Domesday Survey, entries in, 93
Door-plates of noblemen, 328, 378
Dorking, induction at, circa 1622, 489
Douglas (Charles), last Lord Mordington, noticed, 157
Douglas (Neil), poet and preacher, 165
Douglass (Clementina Johannes Sobiesky), her identity,
66, 110
Dove (C. C.) on " Give him beans," 425
Dover, Breden Stone at, 424
Drake (H. H.) on Sir Henry Percy, 448
Driver (Canon) on usury, 286, 394
Drugs, their popular names, 287, 337, 494
Drummond (Sir John), commission granted to, 306
Drummond-Milliken on Dr. Johnson, 385
Drury (C.) on Hole House, 148
Squire's Coffee-house, 318
Dublin, its statue of William III., 266
« Dublin Gazette,' where filed, 347, 495
Du Chesne (Claudius), clockmaker, 87, 13
Duck (Stephen), his biography, 14, 254
Duddery, its meaning, 327
Duddington, Northamptonshire, its church, 48
Dudley (Edward Sutton, Earl), his biography, 248, 298
Dulany family, 95
Dunne ved on Gibbet Hill, 33
"Justice, the," 88
Dunheved on Launceston as a surname, 111
Portreeve, appointment and office, 468
Durham coat armour, 266
Dutch Brigade, Scotch, 373
Dyer (Robert), purser in the Royal Navy, 48
Dymocked, dialect word, 109, 176, 313
E. on " Gnoffe," in Chaucer, 56
E. (A. V.) on Evance family, 368
E. (H. D.) on Nelson relic, 8
Eagles captured at Waterloo, 27, 89, 194, 296, 371
Eagleson family, 168
Earn, the river, salmon fishing on, 141
Ears, satyrs' or pointed, 168
Easdale (James Graham, Lord), his biography, 248, 295
East India Company after 1856, 77
Eastbury House, Essex, and Gunpowder Plot, 37
Easter, first, its true date, 335, 436
Easter riding in Tyrol, 386, 458
Eddis (William), his biography, 388
Edgcumbe (R.) on Byron's birthplace, 389
Casanoviana, 42, 242, 461
Puritan relic, 126
Edward the Black Prince, his sword, 49, 78
Edward I., Parliamentary writ issued 1296-7, 1
Edward II., his marches and battles, 7, 75
Edwardes (Dr. Thomas), his biography and de-
scendants, 308
Egg-berry, its etymology, 246
1 Eikon Basilike,' its author, 164
Eliot (George), title of ' Middlemarch,' 109, 176;
passage in ' Middlemarch,' 147, 214, 334
Elizabeth of York, her ' Privy Purse Expenses,' 107
Elizabeth (Queen), her religious persuasion, 322
Ellerton (Canon), curacy at Easebourne, 245
Ellis (A. S.) on " Sitting bodkin," 429
Elworthy (F. T.) on wooden pitchers, 438
"Tinker's curse," 452
Emerald Star, Order of the, 87
Emigrate, licences to, 108, 178
England, the Virgin Mary's dower, 148, 217 ; French
prisoners of war in, 259, 453 ; local areas in the
north, 367, 429 ; its threatened invasion in 1803, 427
English or British ? 3, 62, 170
English sovereigns, their heraldic supporters, 81, 156;
dejure and de facto, 221
Englishman and Frenchman, their relative values, 425
Engravers of the Victorian era, 348
Enquirer on Church of England clergy, 249
Epigram : —
Oxford and Cambridge, 14
Episcopal deans, 152
Epitaphs : —
"Affliction sore long time he bore," and variants,
326, 413
Berry (Mr.), ofCaton, 246
Haines (Dr. Edward), formerly in Rudgwick
Church, Sussex, 164
Newberry (Will), in Edmonton Churchyard, 386
Ergates on Sir Kenelm Digby, 8
Erie (T. W.) on Shot in place-names, 127
Escallop-shell, as an emblem and ornament, 241
Eschuid (John), his biography, 15
Essington on Eyre surname 435
Fairbrother (Miss 335
530
INDEX.
Notes and Queries, July 24, 1897.
Este on Chevalier D'Eon, 344
Etoniana, 401, 496, 514
Evance family, Salop, 368
Evans (F.) on the pronoun " She," 48
Evelyn, its pronunciation, 468, 497
Everle, its locality. 7, 178
Evil eye, 246
Eye-rhymes in poems of Surrey and Wyatt, 161, 253,
294, 357, 413, 489
Eyre surname and family, 383, 435
Eyton (A. M.) on Old Arminghall, 112
Jacks o' the clock, 227
Eyton (B. M.) on Louis Panormo, 411
F and s in old printing, 305, 516
F. (E.) on " Lead, kindly light," 249
F. (F. J.) on ball throwing, 445
F. (H.) on "Fasesying," 27
F. (J.) on French prisoners of war, 453
F. (J. C.) on Pope's villa at Twickenham, 325
F. (J. T.) on bishops' wigs, 374
Caul, silly-how, or silly-hood, 144
" Clavus griophili," 456
Flower custom, 106
Peppercorn rent, 416
St. Cuthbert, his shrine, 156
F. (M.) on Cornish hurling, 108
F. (R. A.) on proclamations at fairs, 92
F. (S. J. A.) on Douglas Jerrold, 239
F. (T.) on wedding ceremony. 73
F. (W.) on Bible of 1650, 367
" Not worth a rap," 454
F. (W. M. E.) on Bob = an insect, 229
Fable, its author, 328, 397
Fairbrother (Miss), actress, 267, 335, 390, 477
Fairlie (J. O.) on Scrimshaw family, 271
Fairs, proclamations at, 92
Farmer (J. S.) on songs on sport, 450
Farnworth Grammar School in 1631, 168
Farrer (W.) on early steam navigation, 150
Fasesying, its meaning, 27, 333
Fasting and abstinence, 205
Faulkner (Benjamin Rawlinson), portrait painter, 228,
Fauntleroy (Henry), his residences, 231
Feasey (H.) on Holy Week ceremonial, 468
Featherstonhaugh (Sir Mathew) and his brothers, 288
Fee farm rents, information about, 508
Feer and flet, its meaning, 17, 113, 175, 235, 375
Feltoe (C. L.) on " Sitting bodkin," 267
Feret (C. J.) on Earl of Annandale, 27
Bennett (Master William), 309
Birchin Lane, 137
Butler (William), 68
Edwardes (Dr. Thomas), 308
'Feer and flet," 113
Fullams=loaded dice, 495
Hayne and Haynes, 232
Hiseland (William), 114
Jones (John), M.P., 73
Neeld or Nield (Joseph), 148
Parson's Green, old school at, 498
Van Acker or Ackere, 108
Wyvill (Rev. John), 191
Ferguson (D.) on Chapel-snake = cobra de capello,
364, 518
Ferguson (D.) on Chinese folk-lore, 235
Colombo, its siege, 349
Ferguson (R. S.) on Charles Douglas, 157
Landguard Fort, 514
"Wigs, bishops', 174
Filature folk-lore, 232
Fin (Peter), character in Hood's poem, 167, 211
Fire of destiny= Will-o'-the-wisp, 227
Firebrace family Bible, Cambridge, 287
Fires, midsummer, in north of Scotland, 145, 254
Firman (J. B.) on 'History of Pickwick/ 225
Firth (C. H.) on Secretary Thurloe, 83
Firth (Rev. G. A.), his long incumbency, 37
Fishguard, centenary of French invasion, 226
Fishing, blessing the, 111
Fish wick (H.) on Butler Cole, 32
Register, oldest parish, 215
Tunstall (Rev. James), 131
Fit=fought, 264, 375
Fitzgerald (Percy), his 'History of Pickwick,' 225,
341, 414, 473 '
Fleming (G. E.) on Rowen family, 147
Fleming (J.) on Cagots, 28
Fleming (J. B.) on Avis and Joyce, 334
Bevis de Hampton, 258
Bonaparte (Princess Mathilde), 129
Bruce (Countess), 409
" Happy the nation without a history," 408
Motto, 15
Parliament cake, 93
St. Cuthbert, his shrine, 94
Vine=pencil, 391
Wallace (Thomas, Baron), 188
Flet and feer, its meaning, 17, 113, 175, 235, 375
Flixton, place-name, its derivation, 8
Flower custom, Christmas, 106
Flower of the well, its meaning, 455
Folk-lore : —
Candles, thieves', 268, 397, 458
Caul, silly-how, or silly-hood, 144, 234
Chinese, 165, 235, 277, 477
Christmas decorations, 264
Death cart, 346
Death tokens, 13
Dipsomania, cure for, 306
Evil eye, 246
Filatures, 232
German bands and rain, 25
Holy Thursday, washing on, 406, 485
Lips, peeling, 288
Parsley, 124, 232
Peacock feathers unlucky, 36, 254
Pearls and tears, 146, 254
Potatoes a cure for rheumatism, 177
Rheumatism, cures for, 177
Russian, 226
Sneezing, 186, 314, 472, 516
Spiders, 30
Stonehenge bird, 324
Toad, live, cure for fits, 384, 497
Umbrellas, 332, 430
Wart-curing, 165, 278
Washing, 406, 485
Waterspouts, 47, 138
Weapons, serving food to, 68
Notes and Queries, July 24, 1897.
INDEX.
Folk-lore :—
Whirlwinds, 47, 138
Whooping-dough, 206, 414
Font Stone, its origin and purpose, 485
Forbes (G. S.) on Lord Bo wen, 328
Ford (C. L.) on "Hell paved with good intentions, "
436
'II Penseroso,' 247
Music, frozen, 518
S and f, 516
White (B.), his sonnet on ' Night,' 253
Forest cloth, its meaning, 12
Forester, applied to a horse, 36, 194
Forshaw (C. F.) on Scotch university graduates, 513
Foster (J.) on Durham coat armour, 266
Foubert (Major), his riding academy, 153
Fo villa, its etymology, 16
Fox's tail, plant-name, 227, 352
Francis (J. C.) on pronunciation of Evelyn, 497
Fraser (Donald), factor, 1747, 407
Free lance, history of the term, 87, 365
French language, accents in, 16
French prisoners of war in England, 259, 453
French Psalter, 1513, 326
French Bong, its origin, 328
Frenchman and Englishman, their relative values,
425
Frood (A.) on " Three acres and a cow," 475
Frost (T.) on J. H. Stocqueler, 315
Fry (E. A.) on Rev. T. L. Soley, 232
Fry (J. F.) on siege of Colombo, 438
Fulhams. See Fullams.
Fullams=loaded dice, 426, 495
Fullerton families of Craighall, Ayr, and Yorks, 128,
257
Fulwood's Rents and Fulwood family, 126, 250, 318
Funeral customs, 97, 204, 428, 498 "
Furnivall (F. J.) on Han well Church, 274
Fyldes (W.) on " Capellanus," 147
G. (A. B.) on Arabic star names, 174
Escallop-shell, 241
French prisoners of war, 453
Nelson (Lord), his last signal, 405
Peacock as ornament or emblem, 125, 350
Unicorn emblem and horn, 422
G. (C.) on monkish chronology, 387
G. (E. L.) on science in the choir, 412
Stuart (James), of Tweedmouth, 507
G. (F. H.) on how to preserve letters, 209
G. (J.) on Graham family, 382
G. (J. V.) on Sir Henry Percy, 329
G. (L. F.) on early lift, 155
G. (T.), his identity, 487
G. (T.) on satyrs' ears, 168
G. (T. S.) on Scots Greys at Blenheim, 397
G. (W.) on Earl of Beverley, 487
Gaidoz (H.) on " Between the shrine and the stone,"
336
Breton folk-music, 279
England, the Virgin Mary's dower, 148
Galatin (Col.), his biography, 487
Gallic cock, its origin, 127
Gallop, its etymology, 5
Gambardella (Spiridioni), portrait painter, 187, 239
Gamble —bet, 86
Gamlin (Hilda) on Byron's remains, 421
Callow (John), 514
Charles L, Juxon medal, 145 ; Prayer Book, 187
"God save the King," 10
Mary, Queen of Scots, 123
Morland (Henry Robert), 74, 291
Pulpits, carved adders on, 69
Gantillon (P. J. F.) on long incumbencies, 37
Garbett (E. L.) on church tower buttresses, 136, 395
Matches, early lucifer, 437
Gardiner (S. R.) on George Herbert, 192
4 'Man of Ghent," 50
Garrolds = wild daffodils, 508
Gascoigne (Sir William), his wives, 208, 271
Gatty (A.) on bust of Shakspeare, 344
Gaule (Rev. John), his ' Mag-astro-mancer,' 250, 335,
455
Gavazzi (Father), squib wanted, 12, 56
Gaye (A.) on royal colleges, 68
General of 1700 A.D. just buried, 185
Genius defined, 188
Gent, origin of the abbreviation, 274, 356
George III., shilling of 1787, 308, 398
Gerard (Sir Gilbert), Knt., mistake about, 224
German bands precursors of rain, 25
German Catholic Chapel, Bow Lane, Cheapside, 1 83
German Diet, its franchises, 28, 194
Gert= great, 6, 178
Ghent : " Man of Ghent," 18, 50
Ghost names, 64, 73, 134, 233, 298, 355, 365, 466
Ghost story, best in the world, 248, 338, 474
Ghuznee, its sandal-wood gates, 375
Giaour, its pronunciation, 13
Gibbet Hill, hills named, 33
Gibbon (Edward), motto in his ' History,' 369
Gibson (Sir John), Knt., his portrait, 388
Gildersome-Dickinson (C. E.) on Avis and Joyce, 55
Gillman or Gilman family, 222, 296, 333, 449, 513
Gillman (C.) on Gillman family, 449
Gillman (H. W.) on Gillman family, 222, 333
Gilman or Gillman family, 222, 296, 333, 449, 513
Gilmour (T. C.) on Ardra: Two- Mile Bridge, 317
De Brus family, 457
Victoria (Queen), her age and reign, 403
Gingham, its etymology, 173
Gite, Devonshire word, 246
Glanvil (Bartholomew) on Scotland in 1360, 224
Glass, stained, from Dijon, 7 ; collections in England,
427, 458
Glassby (W. J. J.) on Methley family, 151
Yorkshire halfpenny, 396
Gloucester (William Henry, Duke of), 18, 57, 74
Gnoffe, in Chaucer, 56, 152, 198
" God save the King," the tune and additions, 10, 50,
323, 358, 471
" God save the King," the phrase, 111
Gog and Magog, origin of the names, 46, 113
Golding (C.) on William Butler, 193
Goldsmith (Oliver), his description of Wakefield, 88,
198, 336; "The vacant mind" in 'Deserted
Village,' 447
" Gomer had it," Somerset phrase, 168
Good Friday custom, 388, 495
Goodwin (G.) on ' Dictionary of National Biography,
205
Douglas (Neil), 165
532
INDEX.
Notes and Queries, July 24, 1897.
Goodwin (G.) on Harsnett family, 166
Gosford or Gosfortb, its etymology, 75, 116
Gost House at Burton, 248
Gother (John), Roman Catholic author, 52
Goudar (Ange) and Casanova, 243
Goutellard (M.), valet of Napoleon III., 345
Gowers (W. R.) on Browning as a preacher, 28
Graal and Arthurian legends, editions of, 427
Graham family, its literary members, 382, 434
Grahame (G.) on Landguard Fort, 414
Grahame (J.) on Lord Easdale, 295
Prime Minister, 151
Grammarsow=woodlouse, 473
Grant (Sir William), Master of the Rolls, 156
Grass widow, its meaning, 352, 457
Grave slabs, Celtic, 506
Graves, artificial flowers and things on, 427
Graves (A.) on Edmund Burke, 214
Engravers of the Victorian era, 348
Hill, Scotch artists named, 56
Morland (Henry Robert), 75
Grayhead on Dr. John Radcliffe, 151
Greece, Slavonic place-names in, 264
Green (C.) on notches and notching, 474
Scotch craftsmen, 191
Gretna Green marriages and "priests," 294, 338, 511
Griffinhoofe (H.'G.), his death, 220 ; on John Andre*, 56
Oxford (Robert Harley, Earl of), 93
Grilli, writer on agriculture, 408
Grissell (H. D.) on Pope Joan, 177
Peacock feathers, 355
SS. Syriacus and Julietta, 196
Groome (F. H.) on Letheringham Priory, 26
Grosvenor, East Indiaman, its wreck, 73, 132, 156, 198
Grote manuscripts, 208, 258
Grub (Gabriel), character in ' Pickwick,' 446
Grynaeus (Simon), his biography, 16
Guest (John), Chief Justice of Pennsylvania, 57
Guillotine, its history, 22, 366
Gurney (R.) on Colby font, 8
Gwynn (Nell), her silver plate, 65
Gysburne, its locality, 7, 178
H. on " Three acres and a cow," 518
Virgil, his epitaph, 331
Yeoman of the Guard, 448
H. (A. C.) on Cowdray : De Caudrey, 35
Emigrate, licences to, 108
H. (A. F.) on Miss Fairbrother, 477
Soley (Rev. T. L.), 49, 232
H. (A. S.) on Hartigan family, 228
H. (A. W.) on Edmund Burke, 87
H. (C.) on Duke of Gloucester, 57
H. (C. W.) on ' Flutter in the Cage,' 508
Nisbet (Josiah), 408
Sacheverell (Dr. Henry), 468
Sedgwick (Daniel), 450
H. (F.) on compound adjective, 11
Rarely, use of the word, 109, 309
Yede, use of the word, 6
3. (H. A.) on lilies of the valley at Canterbury, 311
H. (J.) on Wigan saying, 273
H. (J. B.) on SS. Cyriacus and Julietta, 129
B. (S. C.) on early steam navigation, 297
3. (W. K.) on No. 37, Leicester Square, 454
Haberdasher, its derivation, 235
Hackthorpe Hall portraits, 353
Haddock =pile of corn sheaves, 446
Haddon Hall, its early lords, 148, 255
Hague, The, in eighteenth century, 109
Haines {C. R.) on Hayne or Haynes, 312
Hake, its meaning, 287, 356
Hale (C. P.) on arbitration, 145
" Born days," 153
Brighton : Brighthelmstone, 255
Byron (Lord), his birthplace, 390
Chinese folk-lore, 277
Dadle or dad die, 456
Dog Row, Mile End, 325
Hamel-tree, its meaning^ 278
Peppercorn rent, 315
" Playing the wag," 294
Potatoes a cure for rheumatism, 1 77
Pugh (Tom), 168
" Rule the roost," 273, 477
Sans Souci Theatre, 354
" Tinker's curse," 452
Wallop, its derivation, 372
Waterspout and whirlwind, 138
Wave names, 77
Yew trees, their age, 334
Hales (Sir Robert), his biography, 29, 176
Half-seal, its meaning, 303, 409
Halifax shilling, 128, 396, 497
Halifax (Earls of), two partly contemporary, 65, 114
Haliwell Priory, Shoreditch, 405
Hall (A.) on Breden Stone, 424
Hall (H.) on Parliamentary writ of 25 Edward I., 1
Hallen (A. W. C.) on Sir Franc Van Halen, 84, 16?
Hamel-tree, its meaning, 207, 278
Hamilton (J.) on Matthew Hamilton, 508
Hamilton (Lady), her services to England, 326
Hamilton (Matthew), his descendants, 508
Hamilton (S. G.) on Keck family, 335
Hamilton (W.) on Stephen Duck, 14
" God save the King," 10
Street inscription, 206
Hamon or Hamond (Francis), his biography, 408
Hanaster, its meaning, 394
Hand of glory, origin of the phrase, 268, 397, 458
Hand-chair=bath-chair, 167
Hand-flowerer, its meaning, 207, 278
Handicap, its derivation, 247, 270, 298, 331
Handmaid=ship's tender, 167, 259
Hand- shoe = glove, 447
Hand-stocking=mitten, 347
Handy (A. M.) on bibliographical exhibit at Colum-
bian Exposition, 503
Easter, first, its date, 336
Hangment, Yorkshire word, 166
Hansardize, origin of the word, 307
Hanwell Church, its architect, 228, 274, 377, 471
Harbour of a church, 247
Harland-Oxley (W. E.) on Elizabeth Corbet, 150
Sherbrooke (Lord), 304
Street inscription, 314
Westminster Abbey, evening services in, 26
Harlequin. See Hellequin.
Harpy, in mythology and heraldry, 47, 216, 278, 431
Harrington (Caroline, Countess of) and Casanova, 42
Harris (C. S.) on " Ha'porth of tar," 331
Hewes (William), 448
Notes and Queries, July 24, 1897.
INDEX.
533
Harris (C. S.) on Sir Anthony Sherley, 204
Harrison (Peter), architect, his biography, 429
Harrisse (H.) on John Cabot and the Matthew, 501
Harry-carry, a vehicle, 427, 475
Harsnett family, 166, 225
Hart (H. C.) on statue of William III., 266
Hart (John), Governor of Maryland, 31
Hartigan family, 228
Harvestry, use of the word, 487
Harvey (Elizabeth, Lady), letter to her father, 106, 237
Harvey (Samuel Clay), his biography, 208
Harvey (Dr. William), his " certificate tickets," 409
Harvey izing, its inventor, 487
Haselden family, 327, 437
Hatchments in churches, 387, 454, 513
Hattock=pile of corn sheaves, 446
Hay don (B. R.), his manuscripts, 328
Hay man (N. C.) on washing folk-lore, 485
Hayne and Haynes surnames, 37, 150, 232, 312
Hayter (Henry), picture by, 445
Headstones, early, 428
Heald (J. M.) on lapwing as a water-discoverer, 238
" Hear, hear," origin of the phrase, 31, 95
Heath Charnock, Lancashire, a primitive parish, 65
Hebb (J.) on Old Arminghall, 112
Beckford (Alderman), 386
Cabal, origin of the word, 293
Fin (Peter), 211
Holy well, Shoreditch, 405
Hunter (John), his house, 445
Leicester Square, No. 37, 225
London public-houses, 497
Mont-de-Pie'te, 96
Morris (W.) and Be'ranger, 345
Music, frozen, 387
« Night and Morning,' 193
Pinchbeck, its inventor, 512
Processions, royal, 466
Rummer, its etymology, 395
Sans Souci Theatre, 263
Stone (Nicholas), mason, 402
Hellequin and his household, 108, 174, 271, 355, 430
Helps (Sir Arthur), his 'Friends in Council,' 487
Hemming (R.) on Shakspeare's ' Macbeth,' 434
Hems (H.) on Allhallows=Holy Trinity, 436
Caen Wood, Highgate, 456
Carrick, its derivation, 411
Church tower buttresses, 318
Dog Row, Mile End, 435
Gite, Devonshire word, 246
Hanwell Church, 275
Incumbencies, long, 37
Lipscomb (George), 455
Rotherham (Archbishop), 471
Henderson (W. A.) on Gretna Green mar ges, 294,
511
Irishmen as costers, 369
Jessica, Christian name, 217
Peacock feathers unlucky, 36
St. Patrick's Purgatory, 431
Shamrock as food, 505
Hengmand, Yorkshire word, 166
Henrietta Maria (Queen), designated Mary, 128, 233,
336
Henry VI., his will, 74, 192, 355, 396
Henry (Jean Etienne), his biography, 25
Heraldry : —
Angels as supporters, 384
Arms borne by women, 207
Az., chief or, over all lion ramp, erm., 147, 47;"
Badges and crests, 229
Bar sinister, 345
Chevron erm. between three dolphins, &c., 87, 152
Crests and badges, 229
Durham coat armour, 266
Harpy, 47, 216, 278, 431
Hatchments in churches, 387, 454, 513
Or, chev. az. between three fleurs-de-lis gu., 327
Quarterings, royal, 511
Sa., chev. between three plates, &c., 468
Shamrock in national arms, 51
Supporters of English sovereigns, 81, 156
Unicorn supporter, 422, 493
Herbert (George), passage in * Priest to the Temple.3
147, 192
Hertford Street, Mayfair, its former name, 47, 94, 15
Hewes (William), musician, 448
Hibernicus on Chamberlayne family, 88
Hibgame (F. T.) on Church of England and holy
water, 85
Cupples surname, 431
Lofft (Capel), 8
Highland chieftain, his death, 185
Highland regiments, their plaids, 288
Hill, Scotch artists of the name, 8, 56
Hill (A. F.) on Sir Michael Costa, 211
Hanwell Church, 228
Panormo (Louis), 336
Woolsey (Robert), 509
Hill (C. H.) on Lady Bartlett, 347
Hillier (A. C.) on Halifax shilling, 128
Hindoos and " the black water," 506
Hipwell (D.) on Mrs. Sophia Baddeley, 6
Baxter (George), 291
Bickham (George), 65
Bolas (Thomas), 336
« Dublin Gazette,' 495
Grosvenor, East Indiaman, 73
Guest (Judge), 57
Killigrew (Thomas Guilford), 32
Landguard Fort, 514
Miller (Joseph or Josias), 12
Pharmacopoeia, first American, 125
Phillips (George), Nonconformist, 346
Soley (Rev. Thomas Lockey), 176
Stuart (Col.), 91
Symmer (Rev. Archibald), 493
Tunstall (Rev. James), D.D., 85
Wesley MSS., 166
Wiedemann family, 261
Wool ward (John), 317
Hiseland (William), Chelsea pensioner, 7, 11
' Historia Brittonum,' " alius Severus " in, 404
Hodgkin (J. E.) on Culloden medal, 452
Pepys, its pronunciation, 269
Watermen, Queen's, 384
Hodgson (Field-Marshal Studholme), his biography
265
Hogg (James) and Tannabill, 486
Holdenby Palace, co. Northampton, 367, 495
Hole, in place-names, 148, 214, 313, 392, 470
Hole family, its heraldic history, 172
534
INDEX.
Notes and Queries, July 24, 1897.
Hole or Hoile family, 470
Holinshed (Raphael) and Shakspeare's * Macbeth,'
321, 434
Holly meadows, 304, 375, 411, 473
Holmby House, co. Northampton, 367, 495
Holy Thursday superstition, 406, 485
Holy water, its use in Church of England, 85, 158, 234
Holy Week ceremonial, ancient English, 468
Holywell Priory. See Haliwdl Priory.
Honest men=craftsmen, 68
Honeysuckle and clover-blossoms, 1 95
Honour, " Your," 248
Hood (Thomas), his " I remember, I remember," 206,
335
Hooper (J.) on Amphillis, 446
Avis and Joyce, 54
" Between the shrine and the stone," 264
Corbet (Elizabeth), 215
Darvel Gadarn, 407
Ghost names, 64
Harry-carry, 475
Invultation, 107
Jessamy, origin of the epithet, 148
Landguard Fort, 236
" Maisie hierlekin," 108
" Not worth a rap," 368
Pawne=upper part of building, 468
Pigeons and departing souls, 48
Rigmarole, its etymologv, 154
" Round robin," 177
"Rule the roost," 477
Scot as a horse's name, 237
Skates : Scatches, 476
Sneezing folk-lore, 472
Teague= Irishman, 415
Thimble, its history, 493
Troston, Suffolk, 124
Umbrella folk-lore, 430
Wave names, 77
Hope (A.) on Gog and Magog, 46
Hope (H. G.) on Dulany family, 95
* Fighting like devils," &c., 13
Louis Philippe, 115
Montrose (Marquis of), 86
Tradition, exploded, 51
Waterloo, eagles captured at, 90
Hopkins (Bishop Ezekiel), his biography, 212
Horace, ' Sat.' I. v. 100, " Judseus Apella," 123, 257
Horfield, Gloucestershire manor, 148
Hornpipe, Lancashire, 127, 212, 338
Horrigan (J. E.) on Nile medals, 374
Scotch craftsmen, 319
' Horse sense," American phrase, 149
Horseshoe monuments, 114
Horton (Moses), miniature painter, 49, 158, 318
Hotham family of Dalton, 347, 378, 494
Boundsditch, its etymology and topography, 203
Hour, precise, wanted, 508
Housden (J. A. J.) on Oxford and Cambridge
epigram, 14
Hewlett (B.) on ' Sailor's Grave,' 91
Hoyle, its meaning, 167
Hoyle (W. D.) on Hole family, 470
Van Cortlandt family, 467
Hudson (R.) on " Day's work of land," 248
Hugh, Bishop of Lincoln, his Office, 307
Hughes family of Trostrey, 148
Hughes (T. C.) on Anglo-Saxon brooch, 468
Carrick family, 312
Classon family, 412
Counties, topographical collections for, 333
Farnworth Grammar School, 168
French prisoners of war, 453
Gillman family, 513
Jacks o1 the clock, 314
Jervis (Sir John), 58
Martin (Col. Henry), 178
Nonjurors, 52
Ring, posy, 328
Steelyards, Roman, 329
Thimble, its history, 493
Westchester, its locality, 93
Withens (John), 486
Hughes (Thomas), precursor of ' Tom Brown's School-
days,1 26
Human bulk, increase in, 138
Hum-bug, its etymology, 25, 316
Hummer and Hummer Nick, 25, 316
" Humpty Dumpty," Latin renderings, 33, 252
Hungate, street-name, its etymology, 134, 197
Hunstanton. See Hungate.
Hunter (H. J.) on poisoned arrows, 414
Hunter (John), his house in Leicester Square, 445
Hurling, Cornish game, 108, 210, 510
Hurrell (S.) on ' Origin of the Moss Rose,' 466
Hurry-carry. See Harry-carry.
Hurst (H.) on church tower buttresses, 136
Hurstmonoeaux Castle, Dacre monument in, 406, 518
Hussey (A.) on Allhallows = Holy Trinity, 328
Baptisteries in England, 252
Bevis de Hampton, 207
Dancing, religious, 95
Picksome, its meaning, 112
Rotherham (Abp.), 409
Scott-Robertson (Canon), 306
Huttock=pile of corn sheaves, 446
Huyshe (Bishop) on St. Mary Overie, 167
Hyde (H. B.) on Ulster Plantation, 454
Vergilius, 9
Hyett (F. A.) on London public-houses, 497
Hymnology : "I 'm not a little Protestant," 149
I. (S.), his identity, 383
Imposture, its statistics, 28, 218
Incumbencies, long, 37
Infant, weeping at birth, 390
Ingleby (H.) on church tower buttresses, 51
Englishman and Frenchman, 425
Eye-rhymes, 294, 413
Funeral customs, 204
Hungate : Hunstanton, 134
' Oxford English Dictionary,' 410
Rarely, use of the word, 110
Sherley (Sir Anthony), 249
Wart-curing, 165
Inscriptions : " Sordet mihi Dionysius," 88, 175, 234;
epigrammatic, 268
Interrogative, Shakspearian, 88, 212
Invultation =moulding waxen images, 107, 236, 314,
395
Irishmen as costers, 369
Italian sonnet and translation, 469
Notes and Qaeries, July 24, 1897.
INDEX.
535
J. (B.) on Graham family, 434
J. (D.) on Voltaire's decapitation, 506
J. (F. A.) on Rebellion of 1715, 408
J. (F. E.) on Bow Street Police Station, 184
J. (G. F.) on Beckford family, 262
J. (T.) on Queen Henrietta Maria, 233
J. (T. B.) on " Dy mocked," 176
Jacks o' the clock, 227, 814
Jackson (F. W.) on clock saved his life, 417
Hotham family, 378
Jacobite movement, modern, 189, 218, 250
James I., his " one Darling Pleasure," 86, 193 ; hie
coronation, 225, 276
James VII., commission in favour of Sir John
Drummond, 306
Jarratt (F.) on bishops' wigs, 104
Driver (Canon) on usury, 286
Etoniana, 496
Jeakes (T. J.) on John Andre*, 297
Animalcule, 333
Beaumont (Dr.), 413
' Belshazzar's Feast,' 194
Bostrakize, its meaning, 414
Brang, its meaning, 2^5
Carrick family, 256
Dairymaids, cutting off their hair, 372
Dog Row, Mile End, 435
Fauntleroy (Henry), 231
Folk-lore of filatures, 232
Ghost story, best, 474
Gillman or Oilman family, 296
Goutellard (M.), 345
" Ha'porth of tar," 331
Human bulk, increase in, 138
"Hummer Nick," 316
Hurling, Cornish, 510
Invultation, 395
Lancashire hornpipe, 212
Mahmood of Ghuznee, 375
Martineau (Harriet), 474
Matches, early lucifer, 437
Orme's cutlery, 193
Parson's Green, school at, 447
Pitchers, wooden, 189, 377
Pope (A.), his villa, 478
Raphael cartoons, 357
Scot as a horse's name, 237
Squatter : Waler, 485
"Umbrella folk-lore, 332
" Under the weather," 338
Whittier (John Greenleaf), 430
Jenkins (R.) on early lift, 155
Jenky and Jenny, nicknames, 94
Jermyn on Col. Henry Martin, 68
Jerram (C. 8.) on Gretna Green marriages, 338
Jerram (J. R.) on bells at St. Michael, Cornhill, 367
Jerrold (Douglas), his dramatic works, 121, 211, 239
Jerrold (W.) on Douglas Jerrold, 121
Jervis (Sir John), Chief Justice, 17, 58, 211
Jessamy, origin of the epithet, 148, 213, 293
Jessica, Christian name, 217
Jew's harp, reference to, 487
Jew's trump, reference to, 487
Jewish medals, 94
Joan of Arc in English literature, 153
Joan (Pope) and numismatic evidence, 88, 177
Joffing, its meaning, 189, 334
" John Trot," origin of the phrase, 289, 415
Johnson (Dr. Samuel), his teapot, 208, 270 ; and
Great Titchfield Street, 385
Johnston (A.) on Robert Johnston, 508
Johnston (Robert), of Wamphray, his biography, 508
Jolly, used adverbially, 14
Jonas (M.) on ' Hamlet,' 1603, 46
Jones (John), M.P. for London, 73
Jonson (Ben), his grave, 368, 452
Josselyn coat of arms, 509
Josselyn (J. H.) on Josselyn coat of arms, 509
Joasing. See Joffing.
'Journal des Dames,' 189
Joyce, Christian name, 54, 334
Joyce (Herbert), his ' Post Office till 1836,' 307
"Justice, the "=immediate ex-mayor, 88
Juxon medal of Charles I., 145, 178
K. (C. B. H.) on Blanckenhagen family, 377
K. (J.) on Browning's maternal ancestors, 369
Keck family, 149, 192, 335
Keelivine. See Vine=lead pencil.
Kelly & Co. on London directories, 77
Kelt on McKinley, 427
Ken Wood, Highgate, 384, 456, 498
Kennedy (H. G.) on Chinese playing cards, 150
Kent (Edward Augustus, Duke of), statue in Park
Crescent, 508
Kentish Town and the King's Printer, 282
Kernel, its meaning, 207, 455
Kerry topography, 509
Kidderminster Castle, map of, 488
Killigrew on bar sinister, 345
Books, labels on, 408
Bostrakize, its meaning, 414
Buslet=small omnibus, 430
Cartwright (W.), his ' Royal Slave,' 253
Cock-throwing, 388
"Fighting like devils," 371
Harpy in heraldry, 278
Hatchments in churches, 513
Misquotations, 293, 517
Morland (Henry Robert), 74, 238
Red, white, and blue, 296, 478
Shot, in place-names. 272
Slang in the House of Lords, 486
Trades, changes in, 364
Vinci (Leonardo da), his ' Last Supper,' 317
Killigrew (Thomas Guilford), his biography, 31,
Kitch (E. P.) on Grosvenor, East Indiaman, 198
Kite (Sergeant), his biography, 387, 416
Knighthoods, no collective record, 305
Knights of St. Lazarus, 88, 190
Krebs (H.) on Shakspeare Concordance, 188
Slavonic place-names in Greece, 264
L. (B. H.) on Kernel or Crenelle, 455
Parish, primitive, 65
L. (D. H.) on Flixton, place-name, £
L. (G. G.) on French song, 328
Marriage custom, 328
L. (J. H.) on Landguard Fort, 514
L. (R.) on " Queen's head" upside down, 476
L. (R. M.) on 'Oxford English Dictionary,' 20
Lamb (Charles), 'Prince Dorus,' 114; epilogue by,
443
536
INDEX.
Notes and Queries. July 34, 18*7.
Lancashire customs, 285, 398
Lancashire hornpipe, 127, 212, 338
Lancaster Fair, proclamation at, 92
Landguard Fort, Suffolk, its history and Governors,
35, 96, 236, 276, 414, 514
Lane, its etymology, 105
Lane (H. M.) on English sovereigns, de jure and dc
facto, 221
Lane (S. E.) on American arms, 441
Constitution, ship, 492
Lang (A.) on Clementina Johannes Sobiesky Doug-
lass, 110
Lanthorn, misspelling, 163, 217, 293
Lapwing as a water-discoverer, 48, 238
Latin, monkish, 508
Latin couplets, rhymed, 412
La Tour d'Auvergne, an exploded tradition, 51, 252
Launceston as a surname, 111
Laver (H.) on Colchester oyster feast, 92
Law stationer, his business, 24, 132, 377
Lawes (W. G.) on law stationer, 133
Lawson (R.) on < A B C Guide,' 475
Cardiff girls, dowry for, 384
Copying machine, early, 337
England in 1803, 427
Forest cloth, 12
Hornpipe, Lancashire, 338
Peter of Colechurch, 477
Pincushion relic, 378
* Savoy,' hymn tune, 472
Waterloo, eagles captured at, 371
Layman, use of the word, 106, 192, 314
Layton (W. E.) on " Harry-carry," 475
Keck family, 192
Lear (King), an historical personage, 447
Leave off or give over, 36
Lee (A. C.) on Ben Jonson, 368
Lee (G. E.) on Landguard Fort, 236
Ogier or Logier, 468
Leech family, 87
Leeper (A.) on rhymed Latin couplets, 412
Lees (G.) on an Italian sonnet, 469
Le Franceys (Gilbert), of Haddon, 128
Legal documents, introductory words in, 195
Leicester Square, murder at No. 37, 225, 373, 454 ;
John Hunter's house in, 445
Leigh Church, Essex, inscriptions at, 470
Lemons, romance of three, 487
Lepel (Molly), ballad on, 57
Leslie (J. H.) on Francis Hamon or Hamond, 408
Landguard Fort, 236
Letheringham Priory, its history, 26, 134
Letter-paper heading, extraordinary, 324
Letters, how to preserve them, 209
* Letters of a Country Vicar,' notes on, 425
Lever (Charles) as a ballad writer, 13
Leveson-Gower (A. F. G.) on hatchments in churches,
387
Wesleyan monuments, 386
Lewisham, its etymology, 265, 311
Lift, early, mentioned, 154
Lilies of the valley at Canterbury, 245, 311
Lincoln (Abraham), bibliography, 37
Lincolnshire Holy Thursday superstition, 406
Lips, peeling, their folk-lore, 288
Lipscomb (George), his biography, 289, 455
Lisle on Hon. Mary Brudenell, 427
Litchfield (Laurence), 1635, New England, 27
Literary blunder, 125, 176, 251
Literary women in the seventeenth century, 423
« Little Dick of Belle Vue," plaster figure, 327
Littlecot tragedy in Scott's writings, 167, 212
Littleton (Sir Edward), Knt., his biography, 327, 394
Llewellyn (Prince), paddle steamboat, 406
Lloyd = Lumley, 207
Lloyd family, 507
Lobster, the " lady " in, 467
Lofft (Capel), his burial-place, 8
Lofft (R. E.) on Haydn's manuscripts, 328
Logan (John), his burial-place, 35
Logier or Ogier, 468
London, public-houses in before 1825, 427, 497
London Bridge, high water at, 107, 174
London directories, early and filed, 9, 77, 117
London Directory as a finding book, 264
London topography, 225, 373, 454
Longden (H. I.) on Olney, 415
Packe (Christopher), 427
Policy (Christian), 508
Longevity, designations for, 54
Longfellow (H. W.),his Harvard address, 267 ; refrain
in « Wraith of Odin,' 308, 370
Loreto, notes and queries concerning, 381
Louis Philippe, his parentage, 18, 115
* Love and the Soul,' an etching, 348
Lowe (J.) on monkish Latin, 508
Lowenberg (W.) on religious dancing, 95
Lumbye (A.) on Jacobite movement, 250
Lundy, its meanings, 172, 434
Lurdan, use of the word, 346
Lynn (W. T.) on Arabic star names, 174
Biblical chronology, early, 182
Cagots, their history, 333
Calendar letters, 249
Cunobelinus or Cymbeline, 132
Ellerton (Canon), 245
George III. shilling, 398
Gibbon (E.), motto in ' History,' 369
Halifax (Earls of), 65
Kent (Duke of), his statue, 510
Short (Thomas), work by, 426
Theodosius the Great, 316
Wonersh, place-name, 488
Lysart on Aceldama, 194, 516
Hales (Sir Robert), 176
Lytton (Edward Bulwer, first Lord), his ' Night and
Morning,' 105, 193
M. on age of a clock, 168
Matagon family, 27
M.A.Oxon. on " Abraham's bosom," 494
Landguard Fort, 414
SS. Cyriacus and Julietta, 354
M. (A. T.) on Keck family, 149
Stepney parish, 328
M. (C. R.) on Nelson's arms, 76
M. (G. E.) on Tom Taylor, 407
M. (H. A. St. J.) on Lord Bowen, 458
Etoniana, 401
Halifax shilling, 497
M. (H. E.) on amenities at Bath, 485
Bishops, their wigs, 374
Notes and Queries, July 24, 1897.
INDEX.
537
M. (H. E.) on " Broom and mortar," 418
Dipsomania, cure for, 306
Flower of the well, 455
Forester, applied to a horse, 36
Gent, the abbreviation, 274
Giaour, its pronunciation, 13
Hand of glory, 397
" Ha'porth of tar," 515
Kussian folk-lore, 226
' Tom Brown's Schooldays,' 26
Wife iron-shod by her husband, 5
M. (J. R.) on ' Savoy,' hymn tune, 472
M. (T. H.) on Allan Blayney, 329
M. (W. R.) on John Greenleaf Whittier, 315
McCord (D. R. ) on Highland regiments, 288
Peninsular medal, 489
MacCurdy (I. P.) on MacKirdy family, 268
Macdonald (Flora), after release from the Tower, 269
McDonald (8.) on Hannah More, 29
Mac Donald's Prophecy, 404
McGillicuddy surname, 268, 353
Macgregor (James), Highland chieftain, his death, 185
Machiavelli (Nicolo), his style, 508
Mackay (Hon. Alexander), his biography, 414
Mackinlay (J. M.) on German bands and rain, 25
McKinley family, 518
Midsummer fires in north of Scotland, 145
St. Cynog, 423
St. Roque, dedications to, 348
McKinley family and name, 427, 518
MacKirdy family, 268
Maclagan (Sir D.) on popular names of drugs, 337
Magi, misprint for mage, 508
Mahmood of Ghuznee, his tomb, 375
Mainwaring surname, its different spellings, 55
"Maisie hierlekin," O.F. phrase, 108, 174, 271,355,
430
Maize, error concerning, 466
«' Maligna lux," its meaning, 264, 318, 394
Mangles family, 8
Manhattan on Olney surname, 5
Manning (C. R.) on Alger or Algar family, 309
Manus Christi, its ingredients, 288, 353
Manuscript wanted, 227
Manx dialect, works on, 113
Mareschal (George Jean), temp. Charles I., ] 87
Marlowe (Christopher), his ' Edward II.,' 65
Marriage custom, 328
Marriages at Gretna Green, 294, 338, 511
Marshall (E.) on " Abraham's bosom," 214
Beaconsfield (Lord), 324
Bennett (Master William), 457
Blayney (Allan), M.A., 430
"Cast for death, "250
Charles II., saying by, 30
' Chatsworth Outlaw,' 316
' Cries of London,' 183
Day's work of land, 353
Dispatch, not despatch, 184
Drugs, their popular names, 337
'EikonBasilike,' 164
" God save the King," 111
« II Penseroso,' 496
" Imperium et libertas," 53, 135
Invultation, its meaning, 236
"John Trot," 415
Marshall (E.) on Ben Jonson, 452
Keck family, 192
Kernel or crenelle, 455
Landguard Fort, 96
Layman, use of the word, 314
Leave off : Aback, 37
"Mills of the gods, "358
Misquotations, 292
' Old Woman and her Maids,' 397
Oldys (Rev. William), 258
Peter of Colechurch, 12
"Registrum Chartarum Normanniae," 54
St. Dunstan, 449
St. Sampson, 55
SS. Cyriacus and Julietta, 197
Vergilius, 137
Virgil, his epitaph, 331
Waterloo and Eton, 115
Marshall (E. H.) on Allhallows=Holy Trinity, 43
Beckford (Alderman), 454
Beer proverb, 332
Biblical sentences in Liturgy, 35
" Cast for death," 250
Chichester, arms of the see, 170
Chloroform in England, 412
Christmas Day, 78
Church of Scotland, 191
Church or chapel, 76
Church porches, galleries in, 10
Colleges, royal, 137
Communion table, 33
Convocation Litany, 234
Corbet (Mrs.), 411
Court-martial, 275
Driver (Canon) on usury, 394
Fovilla, its etymology, 16
Free lance, 365
Hanwell Church, 377
" Hear, hear ! " 95
Herbert (George), 147, 192
James I., his coronation, 276
Joffing or jossing, 334
Layman, use of the word, 314
Lilies of the valley at Canterbury, 311
Mary, Queen of Scots, 86
Misquotation, 507
Prime Minister, 510
St. Paul's, evening service in, 153
Shakspeare Concordance, 313
Shakspeare (W.) and emblem literature, 172
Trials at bar, 227
* Vicar of Wakefield,' 198
Marshall (E. S.) on a silver medal, 488
Marshall (G.) on carnation, 476
* History of Pickwick,' 341
Notches and notching, 473
Rebellion of 1715, 516
Marshall (J.) on private auction, 428
Bolas (Thomas), 74
Cornish hurling, 210
Costa (Sir Michael), 252, 372
Fullams = loaded dice, 495
" God save the King," 50
Heraldic query, 152
'Night and Morning,' 193
White (R.), of Cambridge, 227
538
INDEX.
Notes and Queries, July 24, 1897.
Marshall (R. M.) on Shakspeare and the Book of
Wisdom, 6
Marsham-Townshend (R.) on 'Euormos,' 514
Martin (B.) on " Gomer had it," 168
Martin (H. J. H.), artist, 467
Martin (Col. Henry), regicide, his portrait, 68, 178
Martineau (Harriet) and the Monmouth Rebellion,
389, 474
Mary, Queen of Scots, poem by, 86 ; old records con-
cerning, 123 ; her veil, 367, 434
Mary II. (Queen), medal struck on her death, 128
Marziala (F. T.) on Lord of St. Evremond, 186
Masconomo-Passaconaway on Mrs. Penobscot, 392
Mason (C.) on Charles I., 387
Firebrace family Bible, 287
Grosvenor, East Indiaman, 132
Holmby House, 367
Mass, daily, not obligatory, 226
Matagon family, 27
Matches, early lucifer, 356, 437
Matthew, the, John Cabot's ship, 501
Matthews (J. H.) on carved adders on pulpits, 192
Altar gates, 396
Beaujoie family, 172
" Cat may look at a king," 453
Centenarianism, 54
Church or chapel, 76
Church porches, galleries in, 136
Church tower buttresses, 452
" Clavus griophili," 515
Cousin, in wills, 513
Dolor, Christian name, 473
Drugs, their popular names, 337
England, Virgin Mary's dower, 217
French prisoners of war, 259
Good Friday custom, 495
Grass widow, 457
Hatchments in churches, 454
Hayne surname, 37
Hole in place-names, 470
Hughes family of Trostrey, 148
Hungate: Hunstanton, 134
Morgan family, 319
Motto, " Onna D£w," 34
Nonconformist ministers, 477
Nonjurors, 52
Pasco and Pascoe, 333
Peacock feathers, 254
Peppercorn rent, 416
Pye family, 68
Running Camp, 488
Shelta language, 34, 415
Williams (Bishop Thomas), 53
Mawdesley (F. L.) on Grosvenor, East Indiaman, 73
Jacobite movement, modern, 21 8
Nelson (Lord), his arms, 77
Reign, longest, 146
Maxwell (Sir H.) on circumlocution, 85
Holly meadows, 411
Scotland in 1360, 224
Well, suffix in place-names, 274
Maxwell (P.) on "Black water," a blunder, 506
Charles II., saying by, 30
Cocaine, its pronunciation, 485
Horace, ' Sat.' I. v. 100, 123
"Humpty Dumpty," 253
Maxwell (P.) on inscription, 88
'Oxford English Dictionary,' 325
Plurals, queer, 444
Vine=pencil, 391
May Day custom, 445
Mayall (A.) on Bardsleys, Churchmen, 148
Browning (Li.) as a preacher, 92
Cattle, winter food for, 405
Cornish hurling, 511
Gaule's ' Mag-astro-mancer,' 335
Hake, its meaning, 356
Hayne and Haynes surnames, 150
'Mill, The, 'a poem, 53
" Put in one's motto," 468
Sherley (Sir Anthony), 250
Stag-horn or fox's tail, 352
Warta= work-day, 392
Whittier (John Greenleaf), 91
Yew trees, their age, 334
Mayhew (A. L.) on Baldacchino, 106
Busket, a beverage, 287
"Feerandnet," 235
Gnoffe, in Chaucer, 198
Lewisham, its etymology, 311
Skates : Scatches, 305
Wayzgoose, its etymology, 30, 157, 254
Medals, Jewish, 94 ; Mary II., 128 ; Juxon, of
Charles I., 145, 178 ; battle of the Nile, 178, 374 ;
bull and bear, 225 ; Culloden, 407, 452 ; of Lord
Darnley, 488 ; Peninsular, 489
Medici (Victoria de), her biography, 489
Medley family, 151
Medley on " Sophia, a Lady of Quality," 348
Medley (J. B.) on Earls of Halifax, 114
'Menestho's Daughters,' subject of picture, 149
Merrimac on "Duddery," 327
Meshaw (A.) on eagles captured at Waterloo, 296
Methley family, 151
Midsummer fires in north of Scotland, 145, 254
Milford Haven, prints of, 127
Military banners and colours, 447, 473
Milking syphon, its invention, 439
'Mill, The, 'a poem, 53
Millar (E.) on ploughwomen, 432
Miller (Joseph or Josias), his death, 12
Milles MS. inquired after, 48
Mills (R.) on Ridolis, " city of England," 48
Milton (John), 'II Penseroso,' 11. 173-4, 247, 496
Miracle plays in fifteenth century, 238
Misquotations, 91, 292, 426, 507, 517
Moflat (A. G.) on Lundy Island, 172
Money, its value, reign by reign, 408, 471
Monkish chronology, era in, 387
Monson (Lord), regicide, his wives, 11
Mont-de-Pie'te', its original meaning, 96
Montrose (Marquis of), relics of, 86
Monuments, horseshoe, 114
Moravia and Sterling families, 33
More (Hannah), a problematical ancestor, 29
Morgan family of Abergavenny and Newington Batts
228, 319
Morgan (H. E.) on general of 1700 just buried, 185
Gosforth, its etymology, 75
" Paul's purchase," 34
Morland (George), his father's paintings, 8, 74, 197,
238, 291
Notes and Queries, July 24, 1897.
INDEX.
539
Morland (Henry Bobert), his " laundress " paintings,
8, 74, 197, 233, 291
Morris (J. B.) on James I., 193
Morris (William) and Be>anger, 345, 415
Mortuary observance, 428
Motelet= small motor car, 384
Mottoes : " Passage perillus maky th a Port pleasaunt, "
15 ; " Onna Dew," 34 ; " Imperium et libertas," 53,
135; "Non sibi, sed toti," 466 ; " Honi soit qui
mal y pense," 486
Moule (H. F.) on Gert=great, 178
Motto, 15
Moule (H. J.) on holly meadows. 375
Mount (C. B.) on Handicap, 298
Jew's harp : Jew's trump, 487
"Man of Ghent," 18
Nisbet (Josiah), 476
"Sitting bodkin, "355
Tottenham Court Road, theatre in, 32, 114
Miintz (E.) on Raphael cartoons, 171
Murillo (B. S.), his ' Woman eating Porridge,' 507
Murray (D.) on " Barley men," 451
Murray (J. A. H.) on " Dick's hatband," 467
" Greatest happiness of greatest number," 347
Hake, its meaning, 287
Hamel-tree, 207
Handicap, its derivation, 270
Handmaid= ship's tender, 167
Hansardize, origin of the word, 307
" Ha'porth of tar," 307
Harvestry : Harveyizing, 487
Words, longest English, 297
Mus in Urbe on Stepney parish, 433
Mus Rusticus on " Classes and masses," 324
Music, "frozen," 387, 518
N. (F.) on Richard Person, 167
Names, Slavonic, 488. See Ghost names.
Nansen (Dr.), motto for, 287
Navigation, early steam, 88, 150, 297
Ne Quid Nimis on Common Prayer Book in Latin, 289
Machiavelli (Nicolo), 508
Neeld or Neild (Joseph), of Fulham, 148
Neilson (G.) on " Carnall," 317
Day's work of land, 352
Rigmarole, its etymology, 291
United States, their arms, 347
Nelson (Hilaire, Countess), her husbands, 248, 292
Nelson (Horatio, Lord), inscription on portrait, 8 ;
his family arms, 27, 76 ; unpublished letter, 201 ;
his last signal, 405 ; his breeches, 426
Nelson (Lady), her portrait and biography, 157
Nemo on the Derby Day, 447
Martineau (Harriet), 389
Perreau (Robert), 279
'Red, White, and Blue,' 376
Tradition, exploded, 252
Victoria (Queen), her reign, 41
Neve (J. R.) on William Wyvill, 314
Neville family and peerage, 367, 429
'New English Dictionary.' See Oxford English Dic-
tionary.
New Zealand names, 204
Newberry (William), epitaph, 386
Newland (H. W.) on eye-rhymes, 490
Newman (Cardinal), tune to "Lead, kindly light, "2 49
Newspaper archaeology, 224
Newspapers, early, 18
Newstead on a ballad, 267
Nichol, county of, its identity, 49
Nichol (Prof.), his poems, 104
Nicholson (J.) on " Barghest," 334
Nicol ("Willie"), Burns's friend, 66, 171, 231
Nile, medals for the battle, 178, 374
Nineteenth century, objects in use during, 127, 277
Nisbet (Josiah), memorial at Stratford- sub-Castle,
408, 476
Nixon (W.) on " Di bon," 151
Noblemen, their door-plates, 328, 378
Nonconformist ministers, licensed by Act of Indul-
gence, 109 ; register of, 408, 477
Nonjurors in the eighteenth century, 52
Norcross (J. E.) on hand of glory, 458
Law stationer, 133
Nordhaven, a vessel, 248
Norgate (F.) on Old Arminghall, 175
Norman (P.) on Buckingham House, College Hill, 129
Cricket match, first inter-university, 183
Danvers Street inscription, 432
Squire's Coffee-house, 126
Norman (W.) on baptisteries in England, 251
Harpy, in heraldry, 216
Hole House, 214
Pyrography, 487
North London on Pelling Bridge, 447
Norton (Mrs.), lines by, 481
Notches and notching, cricket terms, 341, 414, 473
Notice, curious, 264
Nott stag. See Stag.
Novelists, their blunders in medicine, 277
Novocastrensis on Robert Perreau, 148
Numismatist on a coin, 107
Nursery rhyme : " Ten men lived in a pen," 368
Oak boughs worn in the hat, 35
O'Brien (Stafford), his biography, 235
Offa (King), his grave, 448
Ogier or Logier, 468
' Old Woman and her Maids,' fable, 328, 397
Oldys (Rev. William), his biography, 208, 258, 414
Oliver (V. L.) on John Hart, 31
Oliver (W. D.) on Mary II., 128
Olney, surname and place-name, 5, 135, 217, 292, 415
Olsen (C. H.) on Bp. Hopkins, 212
Opera, Quaker characters in, 108
Ophelia, the name, 104
Opie (Amelia), unpublished letters of, 181, 276
Oratory and intoxication, 388
Order of the Bath, its origin and history, 387, 496
' Origin of the Moss Rose,' not ' Legend,' 466
Orme's cutlery, made at Lambeth, 193
Osnaburg in eighteenth century, 109
Ossory bishopric, 489
Otranto (Duke of), reference to, 52
Otway (J.) on unpublished letter of Nelson, 201
Owen (J. P.) on " Apparata," 467
" Dog-Latin," 423
Owl on Douglas Jerrold, 211
Oxford and Cambridge epigram, 14
'Oxford English Dictionary,' lines by Prof. Skeat, 1
section « Everybody— Ezod," 206 ; and pronuncia-
tion, 325, 410
540
INDEX.
Notes and Queries, July 24, 1897.
Oxford University, Commemoration in 1814, 404
Oxford (Robert Harley, Earl of), portrait in British
Museum, 26, 93
P. (C. H. Sp.) on Prince Llewellyn, steamboat, 406
P. (C. M.) on long incumbencies, 37
Law stationer, 132
P. (C. O.) on Comptroller of the Pipe, 508
P. (E. W.) on Arthurian and Graal legends, 427
P. (F. J.) on Dolor as a Christian name, 388
Swellness, new word, 246
P, (G. K.) on wooden pitchers, 438
P. (H. B.) on John Wilkes, 270, 497
P. (H. Y.) on the ship Constitution, 367
?. (M.) on arrows in European warfare, 227
Cornish hurling, 210
Steam as a motor force, 148
P. (M. E.) on " Pinaseed," 36
P. (M. G. W.) on caul, or silly-how, 234
P. ( W. B.) on " Little Dick of Belle Vue," 327
Packe (Christopher), of Cotes, co. Leicester, 427, 451
Padua, English and Scotch students at, 36
Paganus, Paganelli, and Paganini, 469
Page (Sir George), his biography, 147
Page (J. T.) on burial-ground in 'Bleak House,' 116
Caen Wood, Highgate, 384
Carrick, its derivation, 494
Dorking, induction at, 489
Fit = fought, 375
" God save the King," 471
Holdenby Palace, 495
Incumbencies, long, 37
Jonson (Ben), 452
Mary, Queen of Scots, 434
Portraits, substituted, 11
Science in the choir, 498
Stepney Church, 470
Wesleyan monuments, 454
Yew trees, their age, 433
Palamedes on birds' bills as ear-picks, 209
Brigstocke (Owen), 168
' Chanson de Roland,' 368
Dancing, religious, 29, 511
G. (T.), his identity, 487
Swine eating coal, 48
Palfrey money, its meaning, 407, 469
Palmer (A. 8.) on " Arse'-verse'," 46
Barghest, its etymology, 185
Bazzomy, West-Country word, 486
Cacorne, its meaning, 432
Callow, its etymology, 466
Egg-berry, its etymology, 246
4 Middlemarch,' 109, 147
Pur-blind, its etymology, 66
Skates : Scatches, 376
White (B.), his sonnet on 'Night,' 257
Palmer (J. F.) on Cunobelinus or Cymbeline, 13
Panormo (Louis), his descendants, 268, 336, 411
Papal Bull on Anglican orders, 166
Parallel passages, 385
Paris (Dr. John Ayrton) and Dr. Penneck, 481
Parish, primitive, 65
Parish council in 1608, 201
Parish registers. See Registers.
Parishes without village or church, 24, 78
Parliament, name for cake 93, 211
' Parliamentary hand," origin of the phrase, 227, 277
Parliamentary writ of 25 Edward I., 1
Parsley folk-lore, 124, 232
Parson's Green, old school at, 447, 498
Pasco : Pascoe, Christian names and surnames, 208,
333
Paterson (A.) on 'Vicar of Wakefield,' 336
Patterson (W. H.) on bull and bear medal, 225
Paul of Fossombrone, his biography, 228
Paul's purchase, its meaning, 34
Pawne = upper part of building, 468
Payne, derivation of the name, 469
Payne (W.) on clock saved his life, 389
Peacock as ornament or emblem, 125, 349
Peacock feathers unlucky, 36, 254, 355
Peacock (E.) on Dr. Beaumont, 246
Bevis de Hampton, 396
Dymocked, dialect word, 313
Henrietta Maria (Queen), 233
Herbert (George), 193
Maize, error concerning, 466
Thimble, its. history, 424
Peacock (F.) on " Cat may look at a king," 387
Holy Thursday superstition, 406
Lancashire family, 285
May Day custom, 445
Nineteenth century, objects in use during, 127
" Tindering time," 444
Weapons, serving food to, 68
Pearls and tears, 146, 254
Peddie (R. A.) on English books on alchemy, 363, 464
Pedigree, Saxon, 13
Peele (George), his ' Anglorum Ferise,' 461
Peet (W. H.) on Bacon's ' Promus,' 438
" Lazy Lawrence," 235
Peffy, dialect word, 25
Felling Bridge, Sussex, place and name, 447
Pelton Brag described, 87, 290
Pen-and-ink drawing of Charles II., 327
Peninsular medal, 489
Penneck (Dr. Henry) and Dr. Paris, 481
Penny (C. W.) on ghost-names, 298, 355
Grub (Gabriel), 446
Thirteen as a lucky number, 406
Penny (F.) on dispatch, not despatch, 432
Penobscot on a literary blunder, 125
Penobscot (Mrs.), her identity, 392
Pens, steel and other, 291, 355, 417
Pentucket on "Horse sense," 149
Peppercorn and pepper rents, 268, 315, 415
Pepys, its pronunciation, 187, 269
Pepys (W. C.) on Anthony Thompson, 368
Percy (Sir Henry), his children, 329, 448
Perreau (Robert) and his brother Daniel, 148, 232. 279
Perry n (Baron), his children, 288
Peter of Colechurch, architect, 12, 477
Peters (Rev. M. W.), R.A., his 'Fortune-teller,' 89,
213
Petition formula, phrase at end, 388, 417
Petty (S. L.) on the Queen a Prebendary of St.
David's, 305
Petworth Gaol in 1794, 7, 56
Petworth parish registers, 7, 56, 192
Pewter ware, old, 128, 212
Pharmacopoeia, first American, 125
Phillips (F. C.) on " Ace of Hearts " game, 287
Notes and Queries, July 24, 1897.
INDEX.
541
Phillips (George), Nonconformist divine, 346
Phillips (P. L.) on 'First Impressions of the New
World,' 309
Phillips-Judd family, 368
Phrase, slang, its antiquity, 86, 131, 197
Pickering (J. E. L.) on St. John Baptist's Abbey,
Colchester, 178
Pickford (J.) on Miss Rosa Bathurst, 266
Bellamy (George Anne), 264
Bishops, their wigs, 251, 374
Carrick, its derivation, 411
Derwentwater (Earls of), 396
Guillotine, its history, 366
Henrietta Maria (Queen), 336
" Humpty Dumpty," 252
Jervis (Sir John), 17, 211
" Let sleeping dogs lie," 417
Oldys (Rev. William), 414
Oxford (Robert Harley, Earl of), 26
Pitt clubs, 15
Picksome, its meaning, 112
Pie Corner, origin of the name, 86
Pierpoint (R.) on "Ave, Csesar," 316
Boisseau, French measure, 171
Epitaph on Mr. Berry, 246
Saunderson family, 55
"Three acres and a cow," 365
Pigeons trained to represent departing souls, 48, 172
Pigott (W. G. F.) on Haselden family, 437
"Parson's nose," 33
Pigott (W. J.) on Clarel family, 28
Crosby family, 468
De la Pole (Rachel), 216
' Dictionary of National Biography,' 453
Knights of St. Lazarus, 190
Pike (L. 0.) on "Half-seal," 303
Pile (J.) on German Catholic Chapel, Bow Lane, 183
Pinaseed, its meaning, 36, 377
Pinchbeck, its inventor and composition, 512
Pinckney family, 47, 412
Pincushion and suspender, a relic, 67, 378
Pink (W. D.) on Colchester M.P.s, 412
Crawford (William), M.P., 514
* Dictionary of National Biography,' 365
Littleton (Sir Edward), 394
Pirates, two sixteenth century, 167
Pitchers, wooden, 189, 192, 377, 438
Pitt clubs, 15
Plassy, 39th Foot at, 265, 491
Platt (J.), jun., on Chinese cards, 76, 214
Chinese folk-lore, 165
Crw, its meaning, 438
New Zealand names, 204
'Oxford English Dictionary,' 410
Shan-cha, its botanical name, 269
She, the pronoun, 116, 190
Shelta language, 34, 155, 295
Yiddish dialect, 493
Ploughwomen in England and Scotland, 249, 312, 432
Plurals, queer, 444
Poke, game at cards, 308
Pole (W. S.) on Chelmsford murder, 267
Policy (Christian), clerk, of Gloucestershire, 508
Politician, use of the word, 76, 333
Pollard (M.) on sneezing folk-lore, 314
Wart-curing, 278
Pontack's restaurant, its locality, 272
Poole (M. E.) on funeral customs, 98
Pope (Alexander), epitaph on Elizab-th Corbet,* 28,
150, 215, 411 ; his genealogy, 164 ; site of .his
villa at Twickenham, 325, 478
Popham family in New England, 392
Person (Richard) libelled by a lady, 167
Portraits, substituted, 11
Portreeve, his appointment and office, 468
Potatoes a cure for rheumatism, 177
Precedence, municipal, 408
Premier. See Prime Minister.
Prendergast- Williams, assumption of surname, 285
Prideaux (W. F.) on Aceldama, 352
1 Anecdotes of Books and Authors,' 16
"Ave, Caesar," 451
Bevis Marks, 385
Books, labels on, 512
Caen Wood, Highgate, 456, 498
Chiswick, Mr. Ranby's house at, 122
Danvers Street inscription, 431
Dog Row, Mile End, 473
" Feer and flet," 17, 375
Gingham, its etymology, 173
GnofFe, in Chaucer, 152
Gwynn (Nell), her plate, 65
' Hardyknute,' its author, 55
Hertford Street, May fair, 156
Houndsditch, its topography, 203
Kentish Town and the King's Printer, 282
Lamb (Charles), epilogue by, 443
" Lazy Lawrence," 235
Lepel (Molly), 57
London topography, 373
Lytton (Lord), his 'Night and Morning,' 105
Misquotations, 293
Newspaper archaeology, 224
Norton (Mrs.), lines by, 481
Pelton Brag, 290
Perreau (Robert), 232
Pie Corner, 86
Pinckney family, 412
Rarely, use of the word, 110, 410
Rhymes, English historical, 275
« Robin Adair,' 32
Sans Souci Theatre, 354
Shelta language, 90
Shot, in place-names, 272
Squire's Coffee-house, 250
Well, suffix in place-names, 438
Prime Minister, his precedence, name, and office, 69,
151, 510
Prince (C. L.) on Simon Grynseus, 16
'Ship of Fools,' 216
'Privy Purse Expenses of Elizabeth of York,' 107
Processions, royal, 466
Pronunciation, provincial, 85, 273, 518
Pronunciation and the « Oxford English Dictionary
325, 410
Propert family motto, 87
Prophecy, ambiguous, 281 ; Mac Donald's, 404
Protester on a literary blunder, 251
Proverbs and Phrases :—
Abraham's bosom, 67, 214, 494
All my eye and Peggy Martin, 146, 512
542
INDEX.
Notes and Queries, July 24, 1897.
Proverbs and Phrases : —
Beans : Give him his beans, 425
Bee in hia bonnet, 260
Beer : They who drink beer think beer, 332
Between the shrine and the stone, 264, 336
Birds : No birds in last year's nest, 382
Bodkin : Sitting or riding bodkin, 267, 354, 429
Born days, 153
Game in with the Conqueror, 251
Cast for death, 168, 250
Cat may look at a king, 387, 452
Cawd for nowt but iverrything, 245
Civis Romanus sum, 366
Classes and masses, 324
Consensus facit matrimonium, 348, 474
Curse : Not worth a curse, 345, 452, 496
Dear knows, 5, 57, 175, 253
Dick's hatband, 467
Facts are stubborn things, 135
Free lance, 87
Getting up early, 86, 131, 197
God save the King, 111
Gomer had it, 168
Grass widow, 352, 457
Great Scott, 300
Greatest happiness of the greatest number, 347, 392
Hand of glory, 268, 397, 458
Ha'porth of tar, 307, 331, 515
Happy the nation without a history, 408
Hear, hear ! 31, 95
Hell paved with good intentions, 305, 436
Horse sense, 149
Jack, Tom, and Harry, 487
John Trot, 289, 415
Large order, 245
Lazy Lawrence, 189, 235
Let sleeping dogs lie, 29, 209, 417
Mills of the gods, 358
Miss is as good as a mile, 340
Motto : To put in one's motto, 468
Nobody's enemy but his own, 312
Non sine pulvere, 108, 157
Ne sutor ultra crepidam, 91, 292
Parliamentary hand, 227, 277
Parson's nose, 33, 92
Peace with honour, 127
Pike-staff : As plain as a pike-staff, 32
Playing the wag, 294
Racket : Stand the racket, 365
Rap ; Not worth a rap, 368, 454
Round robin, 130, 177
Rule the roost, 273, 358, 477
Sole is the bread and butter of fish, 448
Three acres and a cow, 365, 432, 475, 517
Tinker's curse, 345, 452, 496
Toad under the harrow, 367
Tom, Dick, and Harry, 487
Under the weather, 246, 338
Wigan : Here's to the Mayor of Wigan, 187, 273
Psalm tune, ' Savoy,' 408, 472*
Psalter, French, 1513, 326
Public-houses in London before 1825, 427, 497
Pugh (Tom) inquired after, 168
Puleston family, its American branches, 509
Pulpits, carved adders on, 69, 192, 270
Pur-blind, its etymology, 66, 297, 379
Puritan relic, 126
' Puss in Boots' a Swedish folk-tale, 466
Pye family of Kilpeck, 68
Pyrography and pyrographic artist, 487
Quaker characters in opera, 108
Quarrell (W. H.) on compound adjective, 11
Letter-paper heading, 324
Street inscription, 315
Quarterings, royal, 511
Quarter-land, its meaning, 343
" Queen's head" affixed upside down, 424, 476
Quondam S.R.A. on Sir William Gascoigne, 272
Quotations : —
All the pent-up stream of life, 249
And didst thou love the race, 89, 118
And like a being all the world can scan, 429
And thou shalt know ere long, 169
And while with skilful hand he tried, 249
As is the dawn unto the perfect day, 469
Ave, Caesar, morituri te salutant, 316, 451
Children of men, the Unseen Power, 169, 259
Dead rides Sir Morten of Fogelsang, 308, 370
Each day is a little life, 9, 98
Erubuit ; salva res est, 459
Fighting like devils for conciliation, 13, 255, 371
For merit is from man to man, 469
For the Lord Jesus Christ's sake, 118
Full many a shaft at random sent, 249, 319
He said, "I have eternal life," 309
I shall pass through this world but once, 118
If you wish in this world to advance, 89, 118
Is it so, O Christ in heaven, 269, 319, 478
It is an old belief, 89, 118
Lucas, Evangelii et medicinse munera pandens,
289, 372
Non annorum canities est laudanda, 19, 98
O let th' ungentle spirit learn from hence, 58
O nox quam longa est quse facit una senem ! 89
Oh ! but for such Columbia's days were done,
107, 156
Others shall sing the song, 469
Shook the arsenal, and fulmined over Greece, 249
Stern Mother of a race unblest, 249
Sweet eyes of starry stillness, 228, 291
That man has done well, 469
The angel of the flowers one day, 400, 466
The Ethiop's god has Ethiop's lips, 169
The hare shall kindle on the cold hearth-stone,
309, 398
The jewelled arms of autumn, 429
The ladies of St. James's, 9, 98
The mills of the gods grind slowly, 358
The partridge may the falcon mock, 429, 478
The sleep that knows no waking, 469
They met ; 'twas in the starry depths, 129
Thou unrelenting Past, 269
Trifles make the sum of human things, 400
Vivit post funera virtus, 152
Which hath not taught weak wills, 169
Quotations and references, verifying, 406
R. (A. E.) on Prendergast-Williams, 285
R. (C.) on eagles captured at Waterloo, 27
R. (D. M.) on adders carved on pulpits, 270
Notes and Queries, July 24, 1897.
INDEX.
543
K. (D. M.) on " Arse'-verse," 374
Brigstocke (Owen), 257
Cacorne, its meaning, 432
Carnall, its meaning, 218
Drugs, their popular names, 494
McKinley family, 518
Milking syphon, 489
Offa (King), his grave, 448
Pinaseed, its meaning, 36
Pitchers, wooden, 378
" Kule the roost," 358
« Sereu Gomer,' 206
" Sitting bodkin," 354
Spanish Armada, 328
Teetotal, its derivation, 384
Townley (James), 427
Wallop, its derivation, 372
Wheelman, origin of the word, 415
Williams (Rev. Moses), 369
K. (J. B.) on "God save the King," 11
R. (J. P.) on public-houses in London, 427
B. (R.) on " Arse'-verse'," 374
Beaumont (Dr.), 498
Buslet = small omnibus, 515
"Cast for death, "250
" Chare-rofed," its meaning, 355, 396
Chelmsford murder, 393
Copying machine, early, 337
Fable, its author, 397
Gavazzi (Father), 12
Nineteenth century, objects in use in, 278
Sicily, incident at, 231
Sneezing folk-lore, 472
Stag, "nott," 118
Stepney parish, 433
Unicorn emblem and horn, 493
Wallop, its derivation, 433
White (Blanco), his sonnet on night, 135
K. (V.) on " Between the shrine and the stone," 336
Radcliffe (J.) on alphabet-man, 451
Bishops consecrated in 1660, 458
Carnation, 391
Carrick, its derivation, 339
Cartwright (W.), his ' Royal Slave,' 194
Champion of England, 457
Chaworth family, 232
Clarel family, 136
County families, 131
Dacre monument, 518
Derwentwater (Earls of), 332
Edward II., 75
Fullerton families, 257
Gascoigne (Sir William), 271
Gaule (J.), his ' Mag-astro-mancer, 335
German Diet, 194
Hales (Sir Robert), 176
Halifax shilling, 396
Heraldic query, 475
Heraldic supporters of English sovereigns, 156
Hole House, 214
Killigrew (Thomas Guilford), 31
Manus Christi, 354
Medals, Jewish, 94
Moravia and Sterling families, 33
Nonjurors, 52
Order of the Bath, 496
Radcliffe (J.) on Sir Henry Percy's children, 449
Pinaseed, its meaning, 36
St. Dunstan, 449
Shakspeare Concordance, 313
Shamrock in national arms, 51
Signatures, astrological, 11
Sligo Corporation seal, 451
Wallace (Thomas, Baron), 358
Waterloo, eagles captured at, 90
Radcliffe (Dr. John), his biography, 151
Radford (J. T.) on parish registers, 513
Radnor (John, first Earl of), his heirs, 168, 198, 253
Rae (W. F.) on steel pens, 417
Raleigh = Greene, 67
Raleigh (Sir Walter), his library, 109
Raleighana, 186
Ranby (Mr.), his house at Chiswick, 122, 195
Randall (W. S.) on holy water, 158
Raphael cartoons, tapestries from, 107, 171, 253, 357
Rarely, use of the word, 109, 173, 309, 370, 410, 474
Ratcliffe (T.) on " Cast for death," 168
" Cawd for nowt but iverrything, " 245
Chaunting Ben and Sally, 208
Dadle, its meanings, 226
Queen's head upside down, 424
" Tinker's curse," 345
Wallop, its derivation, 372
Rebellion of 1715, trials after, 408, 516
Records, official, their uncertainty, 444
Red, white, and blue as national colours, 296, 376, 478
Red Lion Fields, ball-throwing in, 1693, 445
Red way (G.) on songs on sports, 428
Reference, mode of ready, 165
References and quotations, verifying, 406
Regiments, plaids of Highland, 288 ; 39th Foot at
Plassy, 265, 491
Register, oldest parish, 108, 215
Registers, printed, 442, 513
" Registrum Chartarum Normanni»," 54
Reid (A. G.) on Auchterarder patron saint, 45
Drummond (Sir John), commission in favour of,
306
Dutch Brigade, Scotch, 373
Fires in north of Scotland, 254
Highland chieftain, his death, 185
Mac Donald's Prophecy, 404
Salmon fishing on river Earn, 141
Vine= pencil, 392
Reign, longest, competitor for, 146, 218, 338
Relics, hoarded, 67, 378
Rendall (J.) on Flora Macdonald, 269
Rene", Due de Bar, figure in stained glass, 7
Returns, its meanings, 424, 476
Rhymes, English historical, 187, 275. See Eye-
rhymes.
Richardson (W.) on Slavonic names, 488
Ricketson (Daniel), his biography, 235
Rickwood (G.) on Colchester M.P.s, 288
Ridolis, a " city of England," 48
Rigmarole, its derivation, 154, 291
Ring, posy, 328
Ritchie family of Craigtown, 29
Rivett-Carnac (J. H.) on horseshoe monuments, 114
Peacock feathers unlucky, 36
Robartes ( John, second Baron), his heirs, 168, 198, 253
Bobbins (A. F.) on Conservative as a political term, 494
544
INDEX.
Notes and Queries, July 24, 1867.
Bobbins (A. F.) on " Hear, hear ! " 31
" Tmperium et libertas," 53
Lift, early mentioned, 154
Oratory and intoxication, 388
Parliament, pre- Victorian members of, 465
" Parliamentary hand," 277
Prime Minister, 69, 510
" Three acres and a cow," 432
Wesley (Rev. Samuel), the elder, 506
Words, longest in English, 395
Roberts (F.) on ' Love and the Soul,' an etching, 348
Roberts (John), of Llanfrothen, 1600, 448
Roberts (W.) on * Dictionary of National Biography,'
166
Knighthoods, 305
Perryn (Baron), 288
Romney (George), 365
Scrogmoggling, its meaning, 6
* Times,' 9 November, 1796, 2
Wedgwood (Josiah), 208
Robin. See Round robin.
Robinson (C. W.) on William Hiseland, pensioner, 7
Robson (George Fennell), artist, his parentage, 225
Rochester (Laurence Hyde, Earl of), his biography, 17
Rogers (Henry), biographical notes on, 285
Rokeby on Dewsberry family, 387
Roman arithmetic in practice, 509
Roman steelyards, 329
Romney (George), revival of his popularity, 365
Rose family, 507
Rotherham (Archbishop), his biography, 409, 471
Round robin, its etymology, 130, 177
Rousseau (Jean Jacques) and 'Hudibras,' 26
Rowen family, 147
Royaljprocessions, 466
Royalty,|changes of religion by, 15
Ruffin drop, its meaning, 385
Rummer, its etymology, 270, 395
Running Camp, street name, 488
Russell (Lady) on George Morland, 74
Russian folk-lore, 226
Ruvigny and Raineval (Marquis de) on Cross and
other families, 507
Rye (W.) on Gillman family, 296
Hunstanton, its etymology, 134
S and fin old printing, 305, 516
S. (A.) on "Day's work of land," 353
Stag-horn or fox's tail, 352
S.'(A. F.) on Bonaparte on the Bellerophon, 248
S. (B. W.) on peppercorn rent, 268
Wallop, its derivation, 433
S. (C.) on Albyterio and Grilli, 408
Heraldic query, 147
S. (C. W.) on Hotham family, 494
Scrimshaw family, 270
S. (E. M.) on Louis Philippe, 115
S. (G. S. C.) on coronation memorial mugs, 91
Easdale (Lord), 248
S. (J.) on Olney, 292
S. (J. B.) on Danteiana, 361
Divining rod, 133
Evil eye, 246
Gavazzi (Father), 56
George III. shilling, 308
Cost House, 248
S. (J. B.) on Shakspeariana, 224
Women, literary, in seventeenth century, 423
S. (M. M.) on Richard Colegate, 467
S. (R. B.) on Swinton family, 395
Waterloo, eagles captured at, 194
S. (R. H.) on Sterland family, 207
S. (S. P. E.) on Common Prayer Book in Latin, 290
Trades, changes in, 433
S. (T.) on « Belshazzar's Feast,' 49
Smeeton (George), 507
Stocqueler (J. H.), 267
Sturgeon (Lieut.-CoI. Henry), 267
S. (W. E.) on 'Menestho's Daughters,' 149
Sacheverell (Dr. Henry), his birth, 468
St. Clair (W.) on Blanckenhagen surname, 247
St. Cuthbert, his shrine, 94, 156
St. Cynog, his festival, 423
St. David's Cathedral, Queen Victoria a Prebendarv
305
St. Distaff's Day, 105, 176
St. Dunstan "near Winchester," 328, 449
St. Evremond (Charles de St. Denis, Lord of) his
will, 186
St. Hugh of Lincoln, his Office, 307
St. Lazarus, Knights of, 88, 190
St. Leonard, maniple borne by, 346
St. Margaret's Church and Lord Sherbrooke, 304, 393
St. Mary Overie, South wark, its records, 167
St. Michael, Cornhill, tenor bells at, 367
St. Patrick's Purgatory, 229, 431, 493
St. Paul (Sir Horace), name and lineage, 53, 111
St. Paul's Cathedral, evening services in, 153 ; clock
striking thirteen, 389, 417
St. Paul's Parochial Society, its history, 329
St. Roque, dedications to, 348, 457
St. Sampson, his biography, 55
St. Swithin on altar gates, 308
Dairymaids, cutting off their hair, 372
Eye-rhymes, 357
Funeral customs, 97
I. (S.), his identity, 383
Lilies of the valley, 245
Loreto, notes and queries concerning, 381
Manus Christi, 288
Morris (William), 415
Mortuary observance, 428
Oxford Commemoration in 1814, 404
Peacock as an emblem, 351
Pearls and tears, 146
Pepys, its pronunciation, 187
" Rule the roost," 358
Science in the choir, 412
Shakspeariana, 223
Sneezing folk-lore, 186, 516
Stonehenge bird, 324
' Vicar of Wakefield,' 88
SS. Cyriacus and Julietta, 129, 196, 354
Sally (Chaunting), ballad singer, 208
Salmon fishing on the river Earn, 141
Salmon (Nathaniel), his * History of Essex,' 109
Salter (S. J. A.), F.R.S., his death, 220
Saltham manor, its locality and history, 228
Sampson (J.) on Shelta language, 256, 351
Sans Souci Theatre, Leicester Place, 263, 354
Santiago = St. James, 46
Satterthwaite (A.) on Cheney Gate, 489
Notes and Queries, July 24, 1897.
INDEX.
545
Sauuderson family, 55
Saunderson (Sir James), his pedigree, 508
Savage (E. B.) on ' A B C Guide,' 475
Manx dialect, 113
' Savoy,' psalm tune, 408, 472
Saxon church, wooden, 388
Saxon pedigree, 13
Scallop. See Escallop.
Scarlett (B. F.) on Haselden family, 437
Scatches, its etymology, 305, 376, 476
Scattergood (B. P.) on Grote MSS., 208
Jolly, used adverbially, 14
Pewter ware, 128
Science in the choir, 349, 412, 498
Scot as a horse's name, 46, 237
Scotch clerical dress, 115, 218
Scotch craftsmen "honest men," 68, 191, 319
Scotch Dutch Brigade, 373
Scotch university graduates, 276, 513
Scotland, right to quarter royal arms, 187 ; English-
man's opinion of in 1360, 224
Scott (Sir Walter), title of ' Old Mortality,' 169, 255,
297, 371 ; " Crw " in ' The Betrothed,' 407, 438
Scott-Robertson (Canon W. A.), his death, 260, 306
Scrimshaw family, 270
Scrogmoggling, its meaning, 6
Seal : Half-seal, its meaning, 303, 409
Seal of Corporation of Sligo, 327, 451
Sedgwick (Daniel), hymnologist, 450
Selby (F.) on Wye College rental, 288
Selppuc on Hill, Scotch artist, 8
St. Paul (Sir Horace), 53
Sequin on 'Oxford English Dictionary,' 107
' Sereu Gomer,' Welsh periodical, 206
Serjeantson (R. M.) on Sir Edward Littleton, 327
Syrnmer (Rev. Archibald), 208
Severus, "alius," in the ' Historia Brittonum,' 404
Seymour (T.) on Hole House, 313
Shakspeare (William), and the Book of Wisdom, 6 ;
' Hamlet,' 1603 edition, 46 ; and emblem literature,
49, 172 ; publication of Mrs. Cowden Clarke's Con-
cordance, 188, 313 ; and Sir Anthony Sherley, 204,
249; 'Macbeth' and Holinshed, 321, 434; con-
temporary bust, 344
Shakspearian interrogative, 88, 212
Shakspeariana : —
Cymbeline, Act IV. sc. 2, "To them the
legions," 224, 343
Hamlet, Act I. sc. 1, " The bird of dawning,"
224, 343 ; sc. 4, "Dram of eale," 223, 343
Sonnets, two obeli of the Globe edition, 223,
343
Taming of the Shrew, Induction, "And when he
says he is, say that he dreams," 223
Shamrock, charge in national arms, 51
Shamrock as food, 505
Shan-cha, its botanical name, 269
Shanly (W.) on John Greenleaf Whittier, 315
Sharp (Sir Cuthbert), his ' Bishoprick Garland,' 87,
290, 430
Shawmut on John Greenleaf Whittier, 28, 213
She, the pronoun, 48, 116, 158, 190
Sheep fed on holly, 304, 375, 411, 473
Sheep pronounced ship, 307, 331, 515
Sheep-stealer hanged by a sheep, 11
Shelta language or dialect, 34, 90, 155, 256, 295, 351.
415
Sherborn (G. T.) on Sir John Birkenhead, 28
Sherborne on Shakspeariana, 343
Sherbrooke (Lord), memorial in St. Margaret's Church
304, 393
Sherl, wheat-sowing term, 208, 455
Sherley (Sir Anthony) and Shakspeare's plays, 204, 249
Sherson (E.) on sneezing folk-lore, 517
Ship, first named, 329, 515
Shoreditch, well of Holywell Priory, 405
Short (Thomas), his 'Chronology of the Air,' 426
Shot, place-names ending in, 127, 272
Sicily, incident in, 169, 231, 258
Signatures, astrological, 11, 111
Silly-hood. See Caul.
Silo on Chaworth family, 232
Silver plate of Roman workmanship, 327
Simpson (P.) on " Hoyle," 167
Lips, peeling, 288
Simpson (Rev. William Sparrow), D.D., F.S.A., his
death, 280 ; on Common Prayer Book in Latin,
101
Convocation Litany, 142
"Non sine pulvere," 157
SS. Syriacus and Julietta, 196
Skates, its etymology, 305, 376, 476
Skeat (W. W.) on ' Anglorum Ferice,' 461
Breve and crotchet, 15
Criticism, its curiosities, 184
Dally, its derivation, 486
Gallop, its etymology, 5
" Getting up early," 198
Gosford or Gosforth, 116
Hungate : Hunstanton, 197
Lanthorn, misspelling, 217
Lewisham, its etymology, 265
Notice, curious, 264
Reference, mode of ready, 165
Saxon pedigree, 13
Scot as a horse's name, 46
She, the pronoun, 158
Tryst, its pronunciation, 189
Twill, early quotation for, 46
Wainscot, its derivation, 444
Yaw, its etymology, G
Sky Border on Miss Fairbrother, 390
Skyes (W.) on Robert Perreau, 233
Slang in the House of Lords, 486
Slater (J. J. G.) on Col. Henry Slaughter, 7
Slaughter (Col. Henry), Governor of New York, 7
Slavonic names, 488
Sligo, its Corporation seal, 327, 451
Smeeton (George), his biography, 507
Smith of Chichester, three brother portrait painters, 428
Smith (A. H.) on Sir Henry Calverley, 87
Pinckney family, 47
Smith (E.) on women as churchwardens, 65
Smith (H.) on Earl Dudley, 248
Rhymes, English historical, 275
Smith (John), LL.B., his biography, 446
Smith (John), mezzotint engraver, and Hannah More,
29
Smith (John), poker artist, 487
Smith (Knightley), his descendants, 108
Sneezing folk-lore, 186, 314, 472, 516
546
INDEX.
Notes and Queries, July 24, 1897.
Snell (F. S.) on early headstones, 428
Sobiesky (Clementina) noticed, 66, 110
Socie'te' des Amis des Arts, 1817, 207
Soley (Rev. Thomas Lockey), his biography, 49, 176,
932
"Sones carnall," in Scotch deed, 1494, 9, 218, 317
Song wanted, 407
Songs and Ballads : —
Chatsworth Outlaw, 267, 316
Come, let us be merry, 138, 252
Fighting like devils for conciliation, 13, 255, 371
French, 328
God save the King, 10, 50, 323, 358, 471
Hardyknute, 55
Mally Lee, 236, 373
Molly Mogg, and parody on, 57
Ked, White, and Blue, 296, 376, 478
Robin Adair, 32
Sailor's Grave, 91
Sporting, 428, 450
When sorrow sleepeth, 417, 507
"Sophia, a Lady of Quality," pseudonym, 348
South Sea Company, its governors, 77
South wark, records of St. Mary Overie, 167
Sovereigns of England, dejwre and de facto , 221
Spanish Armada, banner blessed by the Pope, 328, 394
Spence (R. M.) on "Abraham's bosom," 215
Aceldama, 48
Bacon (Lord), his ' Promus,' 404
" Cat may look at a king," 453
Church of Scotland, 97
" Civis Romanus sum," 366
Holly meadows, 375
S and f, 516
Shakspeare Concordance, 313
Shakspeariana, 223, 224
Sherbrooke (Lord), 393
Spider folk-lore, 30
Spink & Son on Juxon medal, 178
Sports, songs on, 428, 450
Spring Gardens, Sir R. Taylor's house in, 509
Squatter, colonial word, 485
Squib wanted, 12, 56
Squire's Coffee-house, Fulwood'a Rents, Holborn, 126,
250, 318
Stag, " nott," its meaning, 51, 118
Stag-horn, plant name, 227, 352
Stamford (Thomas, second Earl of) and his first wife,
106, 237
Stamp affixed upside down, 424, 476
Stanfield (James Field), his biography, 301
Star names, Arabic, 89, 174
Staunton (Lieut.-Col. Francis F.), his biography, 287
Steam as a motor force, its discovery, 148
Steam navigation, early, 88, 150, 297
Steamboats, first twenty British, 288, 876
Steelyards, Roman, 329
Steggall (C.) on ' Belshazzar's Feast,' 194
Steiner (B. C.) on William Eddis, 388
Stephens (Edward), his biography and Liturgy, 308,
376
Stepney Church, inscriptions at, 413, 470
Stepney parish and births at sea, 328, 433
Steps,) offing, 189, 334
Sterland family, 207
Sterry (F.) on Eastbury House, 37
Stevenson (Robert Louis) and Burns, 502
Stevenson (W. B.), his biography, 426
Stewart (" Walking "), his writings, 488
Stewart-Cormack (D.) on Cormac or Cormack, 389
Still well (J.) on Aceldama, 516
Music, frozen, 518
" Parson's nose," 92
Stirling and Moravia families, 33
Stockwell (J. N.) on Theodosius the Great, 275
Stocqueler (Joachim H.), his biography, 267, 315
Stoke St. Gregory, Somerset, places in, 28
Stone (Nicholas), Master Mason, his biography, 402
Stonehenge bird, 324
Stopes (C. C.) on Holinshed and Shakspeare's ' Mac-
beth,' 321
Lurdan, use of the word, 346
Stowe MSS., Irish, 109, 195
Street inscription, 206, 314, 431
Street (W. C.) on church tower buttresses, 451
Stuart (Col.), his biography, 91
Stuart (James), of Tweedmouth, his remains, 507
Sturgeon (Lieut.-Col. Henry), his biography, 267
Sullow, rare word, 445
Supervisorship, the office, 208
Surrey (Henry Howard, Earl of), "eye-rhymes" in
his poems, 161, 253, 294, 357, 413, 489
Swaen (A. E. H.) on Robert Daborn, 67
Grass widow, 352
Pirates, sixteenth century, 167
Pur-blind, its etymology, 297
Swellness, new word, 246
Swine eating coal, 48
Swinton family portraits, 329, 395
Symmer (Rev. Archibald), his biography, 208, 493
T. on incident in Sicily, 259
T. (H.) on Grosvenor, East Indiaman, 156
Hornpipe, Lancashire, 127
T. (H. E.) on " Three acres and a cow," 517
T. (J.) on Miss Fairbrother, 390
Henrietta Maria (Queen), 128
T. (W.) on " God save the King," 11
T. (W. B.) on Scotch craftsmen, 68
Talos, its meaning, 196
Tannahill (Robert) and Hogg, 486
Tate (M. S.) on Wallis family, 348
'late (W. R.) on Hanwell Church, 471
Holy water in Church of England, 234
Tavern, notable old London, 204, 512
Tavern sign, Cheney Gate, 489
Taylor (I.) on ghost-names, 365, 466
Hungate : Hunstanton, 197
Pens, steel, 355
Shot, in place-names, 273
Taylor (Thomas Proclus), dramatic author, 7
Taylor (Tom), remark attributed to, 407, 458
Teague = Irishman, 415
Teetotal, its derivation, 384
Telford-Hayman (C. K.) on " Crw," 407
Tenebrae on " Dy mocked," 109
Tenification, new word, 509
Tennyson (Lord) and Butler, 6
Terry (F. C. B.) on " All my eye and Peggy Martin,"
146
Animalculae, incorrect plural, 46
Notes and Queries. July 24, 1897.
INDEX.
547
'Terry (F. C. B.) on Avis and Joyce, 54, 172
Bob = an insect, 476
" Born days," 153
Butler (S.) and Tennyson, 6
Cacorne, its meaning, 432
" Came in with the Conqueror," 251
Car nail, its meaning, 317
Cocktail, origin of the word, 96
Cornish superstition, 384
Cunobelinus or Cymbeline, 132
Cycling, ancient, 136
" Dear knows," 175
"Di bon," its meaning, 151
Disannul, use of the word, 74
Dymocked, dialect word, 314
" Fighting like devils," 255
"Fire of destiny," 227
Fit = fought, 375
Folk-lore, Chinese, 477
Forester, applied to a horse, 194
Funeral customs, 498
Gaule (J.), his ' Mag-astro-mancer,' 250, 455
Gent, the abbreviation, 356
Gert = great, 178
Good Friday custom, 388
Harpy in mythology, 431
" Honi soit qui mal y pense," 486
Hood (Thomas), his "I remember," 335
" Hummer Nick," 316
Invultation, its meaning, 236
. Jessamy, origin of the word, 293
" John Trot," 415
Lanthorn, misspelling, 293
Lapwing as a water- discoverer, 238
Lepel (Molly), 57
" Let sleeping dogs lie," 417
Lundy, its meanings, 434
Magi, misprint for mage, 508
" Maligna lux," 264
« Mally Lee,' 373
Misquotations, 91, 426
Parliament cake, 93, 211
Parsley folk-lore, 124
Pasco and Pascoe, 333
Pearls and tears, 254
Peppercorn rent, 416
Picksome, its meaning, 112
Pinaseed, its meaning, 377
Pitchers, wooden, 378
"Plain as a pike-staff," 32
Pur-blind, its etymology, 297
Hummer, its etymology, 270
St. Distaff's Day, 105
Scott (Sir W.), his ' Old Mortality,' 169
Shakspearian interrogative, 212
She, the pronoun, 158
Sheep-stealer hanged by a sheep, 11
Sherl, its meaning, 455
Sneezing fu Ik-lore, 314
Stag, "nott," 51
Talos, its meaning, 196
" Tinker's curse," 452
Umbrella folk-lore, 332
" Under the weather," 338
Vespasian, the " darling of mankind," 337
Virgil, his epitaph, 188
Terry (F. C. B.) on diamond wedding, 132
Whittier (John Greenleaf), 315
Whooping-cough folk-lore, 414
With, the particle, 93
Worsen, use of the word, 114
Ysonde, ghost-name, 73
Tetigi sacra, its meaning, 489
Theodosius the Great at Rome, 275, 316
Thimble, its history, 424, 493
Thirteen as a lucky number, 406
Thistlewood (A.) on Sir Michael Costa, 211
Thomas (R.) on ' A B C Railway Guide,' 405
Blake (William), 302
British, 3, 62
Church tower buttresses, 394
De Courtivron (Vicomte), 128
Grosvenor, East Indiaman, 73
Horton (Moses), 318
Human bulk, increase in, 138
Law stationer, 24
Mont-de-Pie'te', 96
Returns, newspaper word, 424
Song wanted, 407
Wheelman not an Americanism, 265
Thompson (Anthony), Dean of Raphoe, his bio-
graphy, 368
Thompson (G. H.) on Claudius Du Chesne, 131
Medals for battle of the Nile, 178
Thompson (H. E.) on Chaworth family, 277
Thornton (R. H.) on altar piece, A.D. 1723, 225
Barclay (A.), his ' Ship of Fools,' 145
Bishops consecrated in 1660, 268
Civil War army lists, 233
Crattle : Sullow, 445
" Dear knows," 5
Evelyn, its pronunciation, 468
Fit = fought, 264
French Psalter, 1513, 326
Gent, the abbreviation, 274
Giaour, its pronunciation, 13
James I., 86
"Nobody's enemy but his own," 312
Santiago = St. James, 46
Thoyts family, 487
Thoyts (E. E.) on Christopher Whichcott, 413
Thread Gown on Germanic Diet, 28
Throne, bishop's, curious use of, 486
Thrush and blackbird, contrast between, 45
Thurloe (John), his death, 83
Timbrell family, 194
' Times' newspaper of 9th November, 1796, 2
Tindering time = evening dusk, 444
Titles, aqueous, 65 ; the Justice, 88
Tomlinson (Charles), F.R.S., his death, 160
Tomlinson (G. W.) on Lady Almeria Carpenter, 56
Tongue-batteries, authority for the word, 266, 332
Tooke (Home), extracts from his diary, 21, 61, 103, 162
Topcliffe (Richard), spy, his biography, 51
Tottenham Court Road, old theatre in, 32, 114
Tottenham Court Road Chapel, removal of its monu-
ments, 386, 454
Tourgenieff (Ivan S.), illustrated edition, 327
Townley (James), author of 'Biblical Anecdotes,' 427
Toynbee (H.) on John and Francis Chute, 346
Dacre monument at Hurstmonceaux, 406
De Ferrers of Chartley, 286
548
INDEX.
Notes and Queries, July 24, 1897,
Toynbee (IT.) on "John Trot," 289
Letheringham Priory, 134
Radnor (first Earl of), 198
Walpole (Horace) and his editors, 346, 492
Toynbee (P.) on Chaucer and Villani, 205
Peppercorn rent, 416
Trades, changes in, 364, 433
Tradition, exploded, 51, 252
Trials at bar, 227, 338
Troston, Suffolk, 124
Tryst, its pronunciation, 127, 189
Tuer (A. W.) on 'Journal des Dames,' 189
Tunstall (Rev. James), D.D., his biography, 85, 131
Turkey, its name explained, 344
Turner engravers, 187
Twickenham on Earls of Derwentwater, 208
Twill, early quotation for, 46
"Twinkle, twinkle, little star," 33
Two-Mile Bridge, co. Limerick, 317
Type-writing machine, its' invention, 445
Tyrie (W. B.) on heraldic query, 468
Tyrol, Easter riding in, 386, 458
Tyrone (T.) on St. Patrick's Purgatory, 431
Tyrwhitt (M. L. E.) on Henri Waddington, 428
Udal (J. S.) on topographical collections for counties,
17
English sovereigns, their heraldic supporters, 81
Infant, weeping, 390
Ulster, Plantation of James I. in, 407, 454
Umbrella folk-lore, 332, 430
Underhill (Cave), actor, his birth, 67
Underbill (W.) on Zerubbabel Wyvill, 113
Unicorn emblem and horn, 422, 493
United States of America, their arms, 347, 441
'Untrodden Ways, '245
Urban on James Field Stanfield, 301
Underhill (Cave), 67
Urlin (R. D.) on longest words in English, 396
V. (N. O.) on Lamb's ' Prince Dorus,' 114
V. (Q.) on alphabet-man, 207
Bassi (Ugo), 168
Beeverell (James), 51
Bull and boar, 57
Church of Scotland, 97
Domesday Survey, 93
Haberdasher, its derivation, 235
Half-seal, 409
Hanaster, its meaning, 394
" Hand of glory," 268
Hand-chair=bath-chair, 167
Hand-flowerer, its meaning, 207
Handicap, 247
Hand-stocking, 347
Harbour : Arbour, 247
Harry-carry, a vehicle, 427
Hattock : Haddock : Huttock, 446
Landguard Fort, 414
" Maisie hierlekin," 355
Politician, use of the word, 76
Quaker characters in opera, 108
"Toad under the harrow," 367
"Tom, Dick, and Harry," 487
V. (W. I. R.) on Miss Rosa Bathurst, 393
Christmas morning, verse on, 308
V. (W. I. R.) on Elizabeth Corbet, 216
De la Pole (Rachel), 94, 178
Foubert (Major), his riding academy, ] 53
Harvey (Dr. William), 409
Harvey (Lady), letter from, 237
London directories, 117
Newberry (Will), 386
Olney, the name, 135, 217, 292
Padua, English and Scotch students at, 36
Peppercorn rent, 416
Pontack's restaurant, 272
" Stand the racket," 365
Tavern, old London, 204, 512
Walter (Hervey), 337
Yew trees, their age, 276
Vaizey (J. S.) on "Garrolds," 508
Van Acker or Ackere (Francis and Nicholas), 108
Van Cortlandt family and arms, 467
Van Halen (Sir Franc), E.G., pedigree and arms, 84,
131, 169
Vaughan (W.) on Princess Mathilde Bonaparte, 177
Manuscript wanted, 227
Vergilius, his treatise on the Antipodes, 9, 137
Vernon family of Haddon, 327
Vespasian, " the darling of mankind," 337
Vicar on George Lipscomb, 289
Timbrell family, 194
Victoria (Queen), length of her reign, 41, 403 ; Pre-
bendary of St. David's, 305 ; her watermen, 384 ;
her age, 403 ; portrait by Chalon, 509
Victorian era, its engravers, 348
Villani (Giovanni) and Chaucer, 205, 369
Vinci (Leonardo da), his ' Last Supper,' 52, 317
Vine = lead pencil, 307, 391
Virgil, his epitaph, 188, 329
Voltaire (F. M. A.), his decapitation, 506
Vraieon"C.R.,"509
V.-W. (H. S.) on Robert Perreau, 233
Vyne, Hampshire place-name, 392, 444
W. (A. C.) on Church of Scotland, 97
Divining rod, 253
Dog-gates, 488
Emerald Star Order, 87
" Hear, hear ! " 95
Oxford and Cambridge epigram, 15
Waterloo, eagles captured at, 194
Whooping-cough folk-lore, 206
W. (E.) on Breton folk-music, 248
Corbet (Mrs. Elizabeth), 28
W. (E. S.) on Olney, place-name, 217
W. (G.) on "Peffy," dialect word, 25
Sherl, agricultural term, 208
W. (G. J.) on Home Tooke's diary, 21, 61, 103, 162
W. (H.) on John Andre", 238
Robson (George Fennell), 225
W. (H. A.) on Old Arminghall, 112
Church porches, galleries in, 9
W. (H. S. V.) on Lady Almeria Carpenter, 136
W. (T.) on Cunobelinus or Cymbeline, 356
Haddon Hall, 255
Waddington (Henri), his pedigree, 428, 458, 477
Wade (N.) on court-martial, 127
Horfield manor, 148
Wainscot, its derivation, 444
Wakefield (A. M.) on Clementina J. S. Douglas*, 66
Notes and Queries, July 24, 1897.
INDEX.
549
Waldershare, Kentish place-name, 89
Waler, colonial word, 485
Walford (E.) on Miss Rosa Bathurst, 299
Burke (Edmund), 214
Byron (Lord), his remains, 471
Cherry blossom festival, 453
" Come, let us be merry," 252
Copying machine, early, 226
County families, 131
Inscription, 175
Jervis (Sir John), 58
Lancashire customs, 398
Matches, early lucifer, 356
Nansen (Dr.), 287
Noblemen, their door-plates, 378
Parish, anomalous, 24
Rarely, use of the word, 371
St. Roque, dedications to, 457
Stocqueler (J. H.), 316
Titles, aqueous, 65
Wallop, its derivation, 434
Waterloo, eagles captured at, 90
Wyvill family, 372
Walker (B.) on alphabet-man, 451
Walker (R. J.) on John Andre*, 8
Chloroform first used in England, 146
Science in the choir, 349
Wallace (Thomas, Baron), his biography and marriage,
188, 358
Waller (Edmund), his second wife, 287
Wallis family, Irish and Scotch, 348
Wallis (A.) on Raleighana, 186
Wallop, its derivation, 372, 433
Walmsley (P. B.) on " Consensus facit matrimonium,"
474
•Cousin, in wills, 512
Hake, its meaning, 357
Money, its value, 471
Walpole (Horace) and his editors, 346, 492
Walaingham family, 327
Walter (Hervey), his biography, 168, 337
Walters (R.) on B. R. Faulkner, 276
Ward and marriage, 407
Ward (C. A.) on Victoria de Medici, 489
Ward (C. S.) on Pope Joan, 88
Wardlaw (Lady) and ' Hardy knute,' 55
Warren (C. F. S.) on " Abraham's bosom," 215
Aquitaine (Dukes of), 433
Bishops consecrated in 1660, 458
Book title, 451
Books, labels on, 454
" Cast for death," 250
Centenarianism, 54
Crw, its meaning, 438
Dairymaids, cutting off their hair, 30
Darvel Gadarn, 450
Derwentwater (Earls of), 275
" Feer and flet," 175
•Friends in Council,' 487
George III. shilling, 398
Ghost story, best, 338
Grote MSS., 259
Hayne and Haynes, 37
Herbert (George), 193
Jeasamy, origin of the word, 213
Joffing or jossing, 334
Warren (C. F. S.) on Landguard Fort, 35
Layman, use of the word, 192
Literary blunder, 176
London Bridge, high water at, 174
Longfellow (H. W.), refrain in 'Wraith of
Odin,' 370
' Middlemarch,' 176, 214
Nicol (W.), Burns's friend, 171
' Old Mortality,' 255
Peppercorn rent, 315
Register, oldest parish, 215
S and f in early printing, 305
" Sitting bodkin," 354
Stephens (Edward), 376
Vine = pencil, 391
Wallop, its derivation, 433
Wart curing as an occult science, 165, 278
Warta= work-day, 324, 392
Washing folk-lore, 406, 485
Waterbury family, 7
Waterbury (D. H.) on Waterbury family, 7
Waterloo, eagles captured at, 27, 89, 194, 296, 371 ;
' Won on playing fields of Eton," 48, 114
Watermen, Queen's, 384
Waterspout superstitions, 47, 138
Watson (Jonathan), of Ringshall, Suffolk, 188
Wave names, 32, 77, 132
Wayzgoose, its etymology, 30, 157, 254
Weapons, serving food to, 68
Webb (E. A.) on Walsingham family, 327
Wedding, diamond, 132
Wedding ceremony, modern, 73
Wedgwood (Josiah), portraits in Meteyard's 'Life,' 208
Welford (R.) on introductory words in legal docu-
ments, 195
Quartern-land, 343
Steamers, first British, 376
Well, suffix in place-names, 217, 274, 438
Well flowering. See Flower of the well.
Wellington (Duchess of) on Gambardella, portrait
painter, 187
Hayter (Henry), 445
Martin (H. J. H.), 467
Murillo (B. S.), his 'Woman eating Porridge,'
507
Socie'te' des Amis des Arts, 207
Wesley MSS. discovered, 166
Wesley (Rev. Samuel), the elder, his political trials,
506
Wesleyan monuments from Tottenham Court Road,
386, 454
Westchester, its locality, 28, 93
Westminster Abbey, evening services in, 26, 153, 213,
415 ; tenor bells at, 367
Wheatley (H. B.) on pronunciation of Pepys, 269
Wheelman not an Americanism, 265, 415
Whichcott (Christopher), his portrait, 108, 413
Whippity Scoorie, Lanark custom, 226
Whirlwind superstitions, 47, 138
White (Blanco), his sonnet on ' Night,' 45, 135, 257
White (E. A.) on Swinton family, 329
White (F.) on an epitaph, 326
White (G.) on Byron's birthplace, 390
White (R.), of Cambridge, family and arms, 227
Whitear (W. H.) on Mr. Ranby's house at Chiswick,
195
550
INDEX.
Notes and Queries, July 24, 1897.
Whittier (John Greenleaf), his surname, 28, 91, 213,
315, 430, 476
Whooping-cough folk-lore, 206, 414
Wiedemann family, 261 , 369
Wife iron-shod by her husband, 5, 56
Wigan : " Here's to the mayor of Wigan," 187, 273
Wigs, bishops', 104, 174, 251, 270, 374
Wilkes (John), retort to Lord Thurlow, 249, 270, 454,
497
Wilkins (Mary E.), her writings, 48
William III., statue in Dublin, 266
Williams (Rev. Moses), F.R.S., his biography, 369
Williams (O.) on J. Callow, artist, 368
Williams (R. F.) on Binstead, place-name, 368
Williams (Thomas), Roman Catholic bishop, 53
Will-o'-the-wisp termed "Fire of destiny," 227
Wills, on parchment, 24, 133, 377 ; cousin in, 408, 512
Willson (C.) on French accents, 16
Misquotations, 91
Propert family motto, 87
Willson (T. J.) on " Chare- rofed," 74
Wilson (J. M.) on Ulster Plantation, 407
Wilson (T.) on "Greatest happiness of greatest
number," 392
Winn (M. W.) on first Earl of Radnor, 168
Wise (C.) on a letter of Lady Harvey, 106
Raphael cartoons, tapestries from, 253
Vine=lead pencil, 307
With, the particle, 93, 149
Withens (John), his biography, 486
Withers (Rev. Thomas), rector of Halton, 308
Women, as churchwardens, 65 ; literary, in the seven-
teenth century, 423
Wonersh, place-name, its derivation, 488
Woodward (J.) on arms of the see of Chichester, 169
Woolford (J. E.), artist, 228
Woolsey (Robert), engraved portrait, 509
Woolward (E. M.) on Lady Nelson, 157
Woolward (John), A.M., his biography, 89, 317
Words, longest in English language, 204, 297, 395
Wordsworth (William) misquoted, 245
Worsen, use of the word, 114
Worship, " Your," 248
Wreck, captive from, 467
Wright (D. ) on Sir Mathew Featherstonhaugh, 288
Wrigley (G. W.) on Mary, Queen of Scots, 367
Wyatt (Sir Thomas), "eye-rhymes" in his poems
161, 253, 294, 357, 413, 489
Wye, Kent, rental of the college, 288
Wyld (H. C.) on "eye-rhymes" in poems of Surrey
and Wyatt, 161, 489
Wyvill (Rev. John), rector of Fulham, 191
Wyvill (M.), musician, 37, 113, 372
Wyvill (William), organist, 314
Wyvill (Zerubbabel), musician, 113, 314
X. on Easter riding in Tyrol, 386
X. (X.) on « Armorial Families,' 488
Yankee Traveller on * London Directory,' 264
Yardley (E.) on "Barghest," 335, 395
Chapel-snake, 451
Eye-rhymes, 413, 490
Fairbrother (Miss), 477
* Gog and Magog, 113
" Hell paved with good intentions," 437
Invultation, its meaning, 314
"Maisie hierlekin," 174
"Malignalux,"394
Parallel passages, 385
Pronunciation, provincial, 273
Sharp (Sir C.), his ' Bishoprick Garland,' 430
Sicily, incident in, 231
Waterspout and whirlwind, 138
Yarker (F. P.) on Mangles family, 8
Yates (J.) on Bagster's ' English Hexapla,' 407
Yaw, its etymology, 6
Yeatman (P.) on Alexander Pope, 164
Yede, use of the word, 6
Yeomen of the Guard, their history, 448, 496
Yew trees, their age, 276, 334, 433
Yiddish language, 428, 493
Young (H.) on George Morland, 197
Ysonde, ghost-name, 73
Z. on wooden Saxon church, 388
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