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POSITORY 

SCOPE  OF  SOVIET  ACTIVITY  IN  THE  UNITED  STATES 


HEARING 

BEFORE  THE 

SUBCOMMITTEE  TO  INVESTIGATE  THE 

ADMINISTRATION  OF  THE  INTERNAL  SECURITY 

ACT  AND  OTHER  INTERNAL  SECURITY  LAWS 

OF  THE 

COMMITTEE  ON  THE  JUDICIARY 

UNITED  STATES  SENATE 

EIGHTY-FIFTH  CONGRESS 

FIRST  SESSION 

ON 

SCOPE  OF  SOVIET  ACTIVITY  IN  THE 
UNITED  STATES 


FEBRUARY  28,  1957 


PART  55 


Printed  for  the  use  of  the  Committee  on  the  Judiciary 


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Boston  Public  Library 
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COMMITTEE  ON  THE  JUDICIARY 

JAMES  O.  EASTLAND,  Mississippi,  Chairman 

ESTES  KEFAUVER,  Tennessee  ALEXANDER  WILEY,  Wisconsin 

OLIN  D.  JOHNSTON,  South  Carolina  WILLIAM  LANGER,  North  Dakota 

THOMAS  C.  HENNINGS,  Jr.,  Missouri  WILLIAM  E.  JENNER,  Indiana 

JOHN  L.  McCLELLAN,  Arkansas  ARTHUR  V.  WATKINS,  Utah 

JOSEPH  C.  O'MAHONEY,  Wyoming  EVERETT  McKINLEY  DIRKSEN,  Illinois 

MATTHEW  M.  NEELY,  West  Virginia  JOHN  MARSHALL  BUTLER,  Maryland 

SAM  J.  ERVIN,  Jr.,  North  Carolina  ROMAN  L.  HRUSKA,  Nebraska 


Subcommittee  To  Investigate  the  Administration  of  the  Internal  Security 
Act  and  Other  Internal  Security  Laws 

JAMES  O.  EASTLAND,  Mississippi,  Chairman 
OLIN  D.  JOHNSTON,  South  Carolina  WILLIAM  E.  JENNER,  Indiana 

JOHN  L.  McCLELLAN,  Arkansas  ARTHUR  V.  WATKINS,  Utah 

SAM  J.  ERVIN,  Jr.,  North  Carolina  JOHN  MARSHALL  BUTLER,  Maryland 

MATTHEW  M.  NEELY,  West  Virginia  ROMAN  L.  HRUSKA,  Nebraska 

Robert  Morris,  Chief  Counsel 

J.  G.  SouRWiNE,  Associate  Counsel 

William  A.  Rdsher,  Associate  Counsel 

Benjamin  Mandel,  Director  of  Research 

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SCOPE  OF  SOVIET  ACTIVITY  IN  THE  UNITED  STATES 


THUESDAY,  FEBEUABY  28,   1957 

United  States  Senate, 
Subcommittee  to  Investigate  the  Administration 

OF  the  Internal  Security  Act  and  Other 
Internal  Security  Laws,  of  the 
Committee  on  the  Judiciary, 
Washington^  D.  C. 

The  subcommittee  met,  pursuant  to  notice,  at  10 :  35  a.  m.,  in  room 
424,  Senate  Office  Building,  Senator  Roman  L,  Hruska  presiding. 

Present:  Senators  Hruska  and  Jenner. 

Also  present :  Jay  Sourwine,  associate  counsel ;  and  F,  W.  Schroe- 
der,  investigator. 

Senator  Hruska.  The  committee  will  come  to  order. 

We  are  concerned  this  morning  with  making  inquiry  into  the  con- 
ditions and  activities  in  Red  China,  and  have  called  several  witnesses 
for  the  purpose  of  testifying  in  that  respect. 

The  first  witness  will  be  Mr.  Anslinger.     Is  he  here  ? 

Will  you  be  sworn,  please,  Mr.  Anslinger  ?    Raise  your  right  hand. 

Do  you  solemnly  swear  to  tell  the  truth,  the  whole  truth,  and  nothing 
but  the  truth  in  the  testimony  you  are  about  to  give,  so  help  you  God  ? 

Mr.  Anslinger.  I  do. 

TESTIMONY  OF  HARRY  J.  ANSLINGER,  COMMISSIONER,  BUREAU 
OF  NARCOTICS,  TREASURY  DEPARTMENT 

Senator  Hruska.  Give  your  name  and  address  to  the  reporter, 
please. 

Mr.  Anslinger.  Harry  J.  Anslinger,  Commissioner,  Bureau  of  Nar- 
cotics, Treasury  Department,  Washington. 

Senator  Hruska.  Have  you  a  prepared  statement,  Mr.  Anslinger  ? 

Mr.  Anslinger.  Mr.  Chairman  and  distinguished  members  of  the 
committee,  I  have  copies  here  of  testimony  that  I  am  going  to  give 
if  you  would  like  to  follow  it.    It  comes  in  three  parts. 

Senator  Hruska.  Very  well.     You  may  proceed  with  it. 

Mr.  Anslinger.  Well,  the  first  document  that  I  want  to  present  is 
the  report  of  the  Committee  on  Illicit  Traffic  of  the  United  Nations. 
This  is  dated  April  28,  1956.    This  is  fairly  recent. 

Mr.  Sourwine.  Are  you  connected  with  that  committee  ? 

Mr.  Anslinger.  I  am  Vice  Chairman  of  the  Commission.^ 

Senator  Hruska.  How  long  have  you  served  in  that  capacity? 


1  United  Nations,  N.  Y.,  April  29  (INS). — United  States  Narcotics  Commissioner  Harry 
J.  Anslinger  today  was  unanimously  elected  chairman  of  the  United  Nations  Commission 
on  Narcotic  Drugs. — Washington  Post,  April  30,  1957. 

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3612       SCOPE    OF    SOVIET    ACTIVITY    IN    THE    UNITED    STATES 

Mr.  Anslingek.  Well,  I  have  been  tlie  United  States  representative 
on  that  Commission  since  1946  and  I  have  at  different  times  presented 
evidence,  I  believe  beginning  about  1952,  about  this  situation  in  Red 
China.  It  has  all  been  presented  to  the  committee  before,^  but  now 
this  is  entirely  new.  This  is  all  evidence  in  addition  to  that  which  I 
had  presented  before. 

These  are  the  excerpts  that  have  particular  relation  to  the  situa- 
tion as  it  affects  the  mainland  of  China.  I  tried  to  condense  this  as 
much  as  possible,  but  the  Commission  in  this  report  went  to  the 
Economic  and  Social  Council. 

Now,  tlie  Commission  decided  that  the  heaviest  traffic,  as  in  previous 
years,  centered  in  the  Far  East.  That  is  in  relation  to  all  illicit  traffic 
in  narcotic  drugs.  That  would  be  opium,  heroin,  morphine;  heroin 
being  the  deadliest  drug. 

Now,  the  Commission  was  informed  by  the  representatives  of  the 
United  Kingdom  that,  owing  to  the  geographical  position  of  the  terri- 
tory, there  was  a  heavy  traffic  flowing  through  Hong  Kong,  particu- 
larly in  opium  and  opiates. 

Now,  the  opiates  were  crude  morphine  and  heroin.  As  in  the  past, 
the  traffic  seemed  to  be  concentrated  in  the  Far  East,  and  the  Com- 
mission viewed  with  concern  the  very  heavy  traffic  in  the  Far  East, 
and  particularly  noted  that  a  quantity  of  35,000  kilos  of  raw  opium 
h.ad  been  seized  in  Tliailand. 

Now,  that  is  35  tons,  whicli  is  a  tremendous  quantity  of  opium. 
The  heaviest  seizures  were  made  in  Thailand. 

Senator  Hruska.  Who  made  the  seizures  ? 

Mr.  Anslinger.  The  Government  of  Thailand  made  the  seizures. 

Now,  the  representative  of  the  United  Kingdom  drew  the  Commis- 
sion's attention  to  the  very  difficult  problems  of  control  facing  the 
Federation  of  Malaya,  Hong  Kong,  and  Singapore.  He  said  that 
there  was  an  appalling  illicit  traffic  situation  in  these  territories  and 
their  resources  were  being  strained  to  the  utmost  in  trying  to  deal  with 
tliis  problem. 

Then  he  goes  on  to  say  that  in  Malaya,  a  young  country  nearing  in- 
dependence, the  government  has  to  deal  with  many  problems  and  this 
just  adds  to  the  problems.  In  fact,  the  Chief  Minister  of  the  Federa- 
tion, on  a  recent  visit  to  the  United  Kingdom,  found  it  necessary  to 
emphasize  the  extent  of  the  illicit  traffic  in  narcotic  drugs. 

In  respect  of  Hong  Kong,  the  growing  use  of  commercial  aircraft 
by  traffickers  was  noticeable  and,  apart  from  the  opium  that  ]3assed 
through  the  colony  for  consumption  as  such,  it  was  suspected  that 
much  of  it  was  earmarked  for  transformation  into  crude  morphine 
or  diacetylmorphine,  which  is  heroin. 

The  British  authorities  there  have  uncovered  some  illicit  factories 
which  are  processing  crude  mor])hine  into  heroin. 

The  Government  of  the  United  Kingdom  was  gravely  disturbed  at 
the  movement  of  opium  from  tlie  interior  of  Asia,  which  means  Com- 
munist China,  through  Thailand,  whicli  had  greatly  aggravated  the 
illicit  traffic  in  these  territories,  and  there  would  have  to  be  a  pro- 
longed and  concentrated  effort  to  curb  this  traffic  by  the  Government 
of  Thailand,  but  it  was  facing  great  difficulties. 


3  See  Communist  China  and  Illicit  Narcotic  Traffic,  pp.  1-14. 


SCOPE    OF    SOVIET    ACTIVITY    IN   THE    UNITED    STATES      3613 

Then  we  go  on  to  morphine  base  and  crude  morphine.  That  is  a 
derivative  of  raw  opium  from  wdiich  heroin  is  made,  and  here  we  find, 
insofar  as  that  traffic  throughout  the  Avorld  goes,  the  most  significant 
feature  was  the  existence  of  chmdestine  manufacture  in  the  Far  Ea.st, 
and  the  Government  of  Thailand  seized  81  Ivilograms  of  morphine 
hydrocliloride.  Tliat  is  a  new  development  in  the  Far  East,  and  there 
was  considerable  traffic  in  the  drug  originated  in  the  Far  East  beyond 
the  frontier  in  the  northernmost  part  of  the  country.  That  is  the 
Commission's  way  of  saying  it  came  from  Communist  China. 

Mr.  SouRwiNE.  You  say  it  is  a  new  development.  You  mean  it  is  a 
new  development  that  that  particular  drug  is  being  made  out  there  ? 
Mr.  Anslinger.  Yes,  sir.  Because  heretofore  this  illicit  traffic  in 
morphine  was  centered  more  in  the  Near  East  and  in  Europe.  In  the 
view  of  some  countries  it  was  traffic  in  the  drug  from  the  mainland 
through  Hong  Kong,  Macao,  to  Thailand,  that  is,  Formosa  and  Japan. 
Japan  has  suffered  particularly  from  the  influx  of  heroin  from  Com- 
munist China  and,  of  course,  we  have  at  different  times  reported  the 
mainland  of  China  as  the  source  of  heroin  seized  in  this  country  and 
later  on  I  shall  give  you  a  report  on  a  development  just  2  weeks  ago 
in  relation  to  that. 

The  Commission  considered  the  emergence  of  this  heavy  traffic  in 
morphine  which  has  just  begun  as  one  of  the  most  sinister  develop- 
ments in  recent  years.  I  would  like  the  committee  to  realize  that  these 
reports  are  adopted  after  debate  and  opposition  and  with  15  countries, 
particularly  the  Iron  Curtain  countries  objecting,  it  is,  I  think,  rather 
remarkable  that  this  kind  of  a  report  comes  out. 

Senator  Hruska.  On  what  kind  of  basis  do  they  object  to  the 
reports  ? 

Mr.  Anslinger.  They  object  on  the  basis  that  it  is  slander  and  un- 
true, and  so  on,  and  they  attempt  to  have  some  of  these  items  stricken 
from  the  report,  but  we  maintain  that  these  are  reports  of  sovereign 
governments  and  they  are  entitled  to  recognition  just  the  sam-e  as  their 
own  reports. 

Senator  Hruska.  Is  the  report  of  the  Commission  based  on  govern- 
ment reports  ? 

Mr.  Anslinger.  It  is  based  strictly  on  government  reports. 
Senator  Hruska.  From  the  governments  involved. 
Mr.  Anslinger.  From  the  governments  involved,  yes,  sir,  and  they 
are  only  included  when — the  details  are  only  put  in  there  if  there  is 
proof,  if  the  governments  can  show  proof  that  these  things  happen. 

Now,  here  is  the  Government  of  Thailand  which  shows  also  this 
crude  morphine  traffic  originating  again  in  the  forests  beyond  the 
frontier  in  the  northernmost  part  of  the  country  and,  as  the  observer 
for  Thailand  indicated,  his  Government  had  received  scant  coopera- 
tion from  the  neighboring  countries  in  the  region. 

Despite  the  unhappy  and  desperate  situation,  he  expressed  the  Gov- 
ernment's determination  to  continue  its  struggle  and,  of  course,  as 
usual,  we  express — the  Commission,  rather,  expressed  its  sympathy 
with  the  difficult  situation  facing  Thailand  and  wished  to  stress  that 
the  situation  was  one  of  serious  danger  to  the  international  community. 
Mr.  Sourwine.  Mr.  Chairman,  may  I  ask  that  the  full  text  of  this 
excerpted  report  be  put  in  the  record  at  this  point  ? 
Senator  Hruska.  It  will  go  in  the  record  at  this  point. 


3614      SCOPE    OF    SOVIET   ACTIVITY   IN    THE    UNITED    STATES 

(The  report  referred  to  was  marked  "Exhibit  No.  439"  and  reads 
as  follows:) 

Exhibit  No.  439 

UNITED  NATIONS  COMMISSION  ON  NAKCOTIC  DKUGS— 

ELEVENTH  SESSION 

ItXICIT    TEAFFIC 

BEPOET    OP    THE    COMMITTEE    ON    ILLICIT    TRAFFIC 

(P.   4) 

4.  The  heaviest  traffic  as  in  previous  years  centred  in  the  Far  East  *  *  *. 
The  Commission  was  informed  by  the  representative  of  the  United  Kingdom 
that,  owing  to  the  geographical  position  of  the  territory,  there  was  a  lieavy 
traffic  flowing  through  Hong  Kong,  particularly  in  opium  and  opiates  *  *  *. 

(Pp.  5-6) 
Raw  opium 

10.  As  in  the  past,  the  traffic  seemed  to  be  concentrated  in  the  Far  East  *  *  *. 
The  Commission  viewed  with  concern  the  very  heavy  traffic  in  the  Far  East  and 
particularly  noted  that  a  quantity  of  35,524  kg.  of  raw  opium  had  been  seized  in 
Thailand  *  *  *. 

11.  The  representative  of  the  United  Kingdom  drew  the  Commission's  atten- 
tion to  the  very  difficult  problems  of  control  facing  the  Federation  of  Malaya, 
Hong  Kong,  and  Singapore.  There  was  an  appalling  illicit  traffic  situation  in 
these  territories,  and  their  resources  were  being  strained  to  the  utmost  in  trying 
to  deal  with  this  problem.  The  regular  flow  of  opium  and  other  drugs  by  land, 
sea,  and  air  towards  and  through  territories,  and  the  significant  quantities  in 
individual  seizures  would  seem  to  indicate  the  existence  of  a  well-organized  traffic. 
In  Malaya,  a  young  country  nearing  independence,  the  Government  had  to  deal 
with  many  problems  resulting  not  merely  from  the  country's  new  status  but 
also  from  the  aftermath  of  war,  occupation,  and  rebellion.  The  seriousness  of  the 
drug  problem  there  might  be  judged  from  the  fact  that,  despite  the  gravity  of  his 
other  preoccupations,  the  Chief  Minister  of  the  Federation,  on  a  recent  visit  to  the 
United  Kingdom,  had  thought  it  necessary  to  emphasize  the  extent  of  the  illicit 
traffic  in  narcotic  drugs  *  *  *.  In  respect  of  Hong  Kong,  the  growing  use  of  com- 
mercial aircraft  by  traffickers  was  noticeable  and,  apart  from  the  opium  that 
passed  through  the  colony  for  consumption  as  such,  it  was  suspected  that  much 
of  it  was  earmarked  for  transformation  into  crude  morphine  or  diacetylmorphine 
(heroin)   *  *  *. 

12.  The  Government  of  the  United  Kingdom  were  gravely  disturbed  at  the 
movement  of  opium  from  the  interior  of  Asia  through  Thailand,  which  had  greatly 
aggravated  the  illicit  traffic  in  these  territories  *  *  *.  There  could  be  no  doubt 
that  a  prolonged  and  concentrated  effort  to  curb  this  traffic  would  have  to  be 
made  by  the  Government  of  Thailand  in  the  face  of  great  difficulties. 

(P.  10) 

Morphine  base  and  crude  morphine 

23.  The  Commission  felt  grave  concern  at  the  striking  increase  in  seizures 
of  morphine  base  and  crude  morphine  hydrochloride  as  compared  with  1954.  The 
most  significant  feature  of  the  traffic  was  the  existence  of  clandestine  manufacture 
in  both  the  Far  East  and  the  Near  and  Middle  East  *  *  *. 

24.  The  Commission  noted  that  the  Government  of  Thailand  had  reported 
81.888  kg.  of  crude  morphine  hydrochloride.  The  observer  of  Thailand  empha- 
sized that  there  was  no  clandestine  manufacture  of  crude  morphine  in  Thailand 
itself.  However,  there  was  a  considerable  traffic  in  the  drug  originating  in  the 
forests  beyond  the  frontier  in  the  northernmost  part  of  the  country.  *  *  *  a 
small  part  of  the  contraband  was  for  illicit  domestic  consumption,  but  most  of 
it  was  destined  for  illicit  export  to  Singapore  and  Hong  Kong. 


SCOPE    OF    SOVIET   ACTIVITY   IN    THE    UNITED    STATES      3615 

(P.  11) 

Diacetylmorphine  (heroin) 

30.  In  the  view  of  some  countries,  there  was  traffic  in  the  drug  from  the  main- 
land of  China  through  Hong  Kong  and  Macao  to  China  (Taiwan)  and  Japan. 
The  mainland  of  China  was  also  reported  as  one  of  the  main  sources  of  diacetyl- 
morphine for  the  United  States  of  America  *  *  *. 

32.  North  America  continued  to  be  the  destination  of  much  of  the  more  highly 
organized  traffic  in  this  drug  *  *  *. 

(P.  18-19) 
Thailand 

56.  The  Commission  took  a  grave  view  of  the  situation  in  Thailand  which,  if 
anything,  was  more  sombre  than  that  reported  last  year.  It  noted  that  the  Gov- 
ernment of  Thailand  had  reported  very  heavy  seizures  of  opium  and  crude  mor- 
phine. The  Commission  considered  the  emergence  of  a  heavy  traffic  in  morphine 
as  one  of  the  most  sinister  developments  in  recent  years. 

57-58.  The  observer  of  Thailand  stated  *  *  *.  The  bulk  of  the  opium  seized 
came  over  the  northern  land  frontiers  of  Thailand  and  the  presence  of  armed 
bands  in  that  region  who  were  using  opium  to  defray  their  expenses  had  further 
complicated  the  situation.  This  traffic  found  a  market,  to  some  extent,  within 
Thailand  itself,  but  much  of  it  was  also  destined  for  export  to  places  such  as 
Singapore,  Federation  of  Malaya,  and  Hong  Kong. 

59.  *  *  *  there  was  a  considerable  traffic  in  crude  morphine  hydrochloride 
originating  in  the  forests  at  the  frontier  in  the  northernmost  part  of  the  country. 
The  drug  was  being  smuggled  through  Chiengrai  to  Bangkok  by  highway  and 
railroad.  A  small  part  of  it  was  for  illicit  domestic  consumption,  but  most  of  it 
was  destined  for  illicit  export  to  Singapore  and  Hong  Kong. 

60.  *  *  *  His  country  had  received  scant  cooperation  from  the  neighbouring 
countries  in  the  common  struggle  against  the  illicit  traffic  *  *  *.  However,  he 
felt  that  international  cooperation  to  curb  the  flow  of  narcotic  drugs  over  the 
northern  frontiers  of  Thailand  was  urgently  needed.  Despite  an  unhappy  and 
desperate  situation,  he  expressed  his  Government's  determination  to  continue  its 
struggle  against  the  illicit  traffic. 

62.  The  Commission  expressed  its  sympathy  with  the  difficult  position  facing 
tliat  country.  It  wished  to  stress  that  the  situation  there  was  one  of  serious 
danger  to  the  international  community. 

Senator  Hruska,  Before  you  leave  that  section  of  the  report,  Mr. 
Anslinger,  these  seizures  to  which  you  refer  in  the  one  instance  of 
some  35,000  kilos  and  the  other  of  81,000,  is  that  a  sum  total  of  the 
seizures  that  were  made  from  time  to  time  ? 

Mr.  Anslinger.  In  Thailand,  itself,  and  that  would  be  over  a  period 
of  1  year. 

Senator  Hruska.  How  would  that  compare  with  seizures  for  the 
preceding  year  or  any  other  comparable  period  ? 

Mr.  Anslinger.  Much  larger  than  before,  an  increase  in  traffic. 

Senator  Hruska.  And  are  they  being  seized — these  seizures,  do  they 
occur  at  various  places  within  the  country  or  are  they  concentrated  in 
one  area  ? 

_Mr.  Anslinger.  They  are  seized  all  over  the  country.  Most  of  the 
seizures  take  place  up  on  the  border.  I  will  develop  that  in  the  next 
document  here,  which  I  have  prepared,  and  this  is  information  and 
evidence  which  is  subsequent  to  this  report.  What  I  am  trying  to 
give  you  now  is  not  included  in  the  report  of  the  Commission,  but  will 
be  considered  by  the  Commission  at  its  next  session  in  a  short  time. 

Mr.  SouRwiNE.  This  is  your  own  report  ? 

Mr.  Anslinger.  This  is  my  own  report,  which  I  will  use  as  a  basis 
for  discussion  at  the  next  meeting  of  the  United  Nations. 

Senator  Hruska.  Very  well.     You  may  proceed,  Mr.  Anslinger. 

Mr.  Anslinger.  Well,  I  have  called  to  the  attention  of  the  United 
Nations  Commission  on  Narcotic  Drugs  on  several  occasions  the  enor- 

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3616       SCOPE    OF    SOVIET    ACTIVITY    IN    THE    UNITED    STATES 

mous  illicit  traffic  in  narcotic  drugs  flowing  out  from  the  Chinese 
mainland  to  many  countries  in  the  world,  and  at  the  present  time  we 
are  able  to  bring  the  traffic  originating  in  Communist  China  into  focus 
more  clearly  than  ever  before  by  noting  the  seizures  and  enforcement 
conditions  in  countries  directly  affected  by  the  overwhelming  supply 
of  illicit  narcotics  from  this  greatest  source. 

In  the  United  States,  the  availability  of  heroin  from  this  source  is 
felt  and  is  a  matter  of  concern.  However,  in  this  country  we  are 
showing  improvement  largely  through  the  increased  effectiveness  of 
the  weapons  given  us  by  the  last  Congress,  and  this  most  important 
weapon  is  the  5-year  penalty  for  the  sale  of  illicit  drugs,  and  that 
applies  whether  it  is  far  removed  from  the  Communist  source,  with- 
out suspension  of  sentence,  probation,  or  parole,  and  that  has  discour- 
aged a  number  of  potential  sellers  who  have  withdrawn  from  the 
traffic,  but  it  is  a  great  weapon,  which  I  point  out  to  you  later  on  in 
a  specific  case  just  a  few  weeks  ago. 

Enforcement  conditions  in  other  countries  are  such  that  these  coun- 
tries face  the  continuing  deluge  of  narcotics  from  Red  China  only 
with  great  difficulty  and  with  the  danger  of  being  overwlielmed,  and 
I  pointed  out  in  this  report  here,  the  same  as  the  Commission  did, 
about  Malaya,  this  new  country  just  on  the  eve  of  independence,  hav- 
ing this  great  problem  in  addition  to  the  many  others  that  they  are 
faced  with. 

The  real  fact  is  that  a  constant  and  increasing  supply  of  opium 
from  Yunnan — that  is  the  southern  Province  [of  China]  from  where 
most  of  this  comes.  I  won't  say  all,  but  over  50  percent,  comes  out 
of  Yunnan.  In  Malaya,  harassed  by  the  opium  from  Red  China,  Y46 
pounds  were  seized  in  the  first  months  of  1956.  That  is  very  sub- 
stantial when  you  figure  that  enforcement  officers,  if  they  seize  as  much 
as  20  percent,  feel  very  fortunate. 

Now,  in  Singapore,  where  the  Government,  the  United  Kingdom, 
the  Government  of  Great  Britain,  had  abolished  all  the  opium  smok- 
ing monopolies  in  Singapore  right  after  the  last  war —  but  here  ina 
6-month  period  in  1956,  over  3,000  pounds  of  opium  were  seized  in 
one  3-month  period,  78  percent  of  the  seized  opium  could  be  traced 
to  the  Yunnan  area  of  Red  China,  and  the  authorities  there  are  extend- 
ing every  effort  to  combat  the  traffic  as  shown  by  1,722  raids  during 
that  6-month  period.  And  many  of  these  seizures  here  in  lots  of  200 
to  305  pounds — there  is  1  seizure  of  305  pounds  that  was  of  the  Crown 
brand,  and  the  Chinese  inscription  on  the  wrapping  stated : 

Yunnan  genuine  quality  pacliing ;  always  look  for  the  Crown  trademark. 
Customers  please  beware  of  imitation. 

Senator  Hruska.  Mr.  Anslinger,  maybe  you  are  going  to  deal  with 
it  later  in  your  statement,  and  if  you  do,  I  don't  want  to  disrupt  the 
sequence  of  your  testimony,  but  is  there  anything  to  indicate  that 
the  traffic  in  these  narcotics  is  a  policy  of  the  Red  Chinese  Govern- 
ment? Is  it  an  activity  that  is  approved  and  it  is,  perhaps,  even 
encouraged,  or  certainly  tolerated  ? 

Mr.  Anslinger.  Well,  from  what  we  can  see  at  this  end  of  the  line,  I 
we  don't  see  anything  being  done  by  that  government  to  discourage 
this  traffic  because  it  is  increasing,  and  we  have  started  on  this  cam- 
paign to  try  to  get  them  to  do  something  since  1952,  and  all  we  see 
is  an  increase.  So  we  just  have  to  draw  our  own  conclusions  as  to 
whether  they  are  even  attempting  to  suppress  this  traffic. 


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They  are  probably  suppressing  the  traffic  within  the  country,  but 
certainly,  insofar  as  these  exports  go,  which  give  them  gold,  probably 
one  of  the  only  ways  they  have  of  getting  more  gold,  is  through  this 
ti-affic. 

Senator  Hruska.  Do  their  own  laws  proscribe  the  use  of  drugs 
within  their  borders  in  Red  China? 

Mr.  Anslinger.  Oh,  yes;  they  do.  Their  own  laws  prohibit  the 
cultivation  of  0]:>ium  and  all  this  comes  from  opium.  There  must  be 
vast  areas  of  opium  poppy  grown. 

Now,  when  the  Nationalist  Government,  when  they  had  the  en- 
forcement of  this  act,  which  was  taken  over  by  the  new  government, 
there  were  a  thousand  executions  a  year  for  smugglers  and  traffickers, 
and  I  haven't  heard  of  anybody  being  shot  in  China  for  trafficking  in 
narcotics,  but  certainly,  the  Nationalist  Government  of  China  had 
taken  such  repressive  measures  that  they  had  almost  brought  the  situa- 
tion to  a  standstill,  and  that  is  why  we  commenced  to  find  traffic 
originating  in  Mexico  and  in  the  Middle  East,  traffic  increased  there. 
Now,  with  the  pressure  off  in  China,  the  Nationalist  Government  be- 
ing out,  this  traffic  resumed.  Now,  naturally,  we  take  a  lot  of  abuse 
fi'om  the  Russian  delegates  and  from  the  Polish  delegates,  but  all  they 
can  do  is  to  cry  slander,  and  when  this  report  reaches  the  Peiping 
Government,  all  they  do  is  usually  attack  me  personally  or  just  say 
that  it  is  slander. 

There  is  nothing  to  it  and  you  just  get  a  denial.  If  they  would  only 
reply  through  their  Russian  friends,  point  by  point  to  these  seizures 
and  show  if  they  could  offset  some  of  this,  but  that  is  all  you  get,  just 
vilification  and  abuse. 

Senator  Hruska.  You  have  indicated  that  this  traffic  seems  to  be 
on  an  export  basis  from  Red  China. 
Mr.  AxsLiNGER.  Yes,  sir. 

Senator  Hrttska.  And  presumably  the  incentive  there  is  the  supply 
of  gold  that  it  brings  back  in.  Now,  is  tliere  anything  in  your  in- 
vestigations, or  in  the  facts  brought  to  you  which  would  indicate  that 
the  Red  Chinese  government  itself  is  participating  in  the  profits  of 
that  traffic? 

Mr.  Anslinger.  Well,  I  submitted  documentation  on  that  at  the 
United  Nations,  I  think  in  about  1952  and  1953.     I  haven't  had  any- 
thing since  that  time,  but  I  did  show  where  the  bureau  was  located, 
a  government  bureau  that  collected  the  revenue  from  this. 
Senator  Hruska.  From  this  traffic? 
Mr.  Anslinger.  Yes,  sir. 

Senator  Hruska.  You  have  made  no  inquiries  since  that  investiga- 
tion that  you  made  at  that  time  ? 

Mr.  Anslinger.  No,  because  we  haven't  any  indication  that  that 
isn't  the  fact  now,  because  it  evidently  is  just  a  continuing — it  must 
be  a  continuing  organization  because,  certainly,  this  large  traffic  could 
not  go  on  without  government  approval.  Certainly,  they  have  been 
able  to  stop  this  sort  of  traffic  in  other  countries. 

Here  is  the  Government  of  Iran  today  which  has  ordered  complete 
suppression  of  the  oi:>ium  poppy,  complete  prohibition  of  consum])tion, 
and  they  are  doing  a  magnificent  job.  The  Red  Chinese  would  be 
able  to  do  that  themselves  if  they  tried. 

Senator  Hruska,  Have  you  something,  Mr.  Sourwine?  You 
started  to  speak  a  little  bit  ago,  and  I  interrupted  you. 


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Mr.  SouRwiNE.  The  Senator  covered  the  point. 

Mr.  AiSrsLiNGER.  Now,  I  am  coming^  to  that  border  situation  in 
Burma  and  the  Burmese  Government  is  trying  to  do  everything  pos- 
sible to  put  an  end  to  this  traffic,  but  here  they  are  with  360  seizures 
smuggled  into  Burma  by  land  from  China,  and  again,  in  1955  with 
regard  to  the  smuggling  of  opium  by  land,  there  were  500  seizures  in 
the  Bharmo  district.  That  is  the  recent  penetration  of  Communists 
down  into  Burma.  That  is  the  district;  500  seizures,  which  means, 
according  to  our  calculations  there  were  probably  7,000  sorties  of 
smugglers  down  in  that  particular  district. 

And  here  we  have  562  pounds  seized  near  Mandalay.  In  August,  3 
seizures  at  Kengtung  totaling  3,000  pounds.  That  is  a  city  of  north- 
ern Burma  and  that  is  the  hub  through  which  most  of  the  opium 
passes  which  is  destined  for  southeast  Asia  from  Eed  China. 

The  officials  are  quite  alert,  but  they  are  facing  a  terrific  problem. 

Now,  we  have  Hong  Kong  and  Japan  which  continue  to  be  way-sta- 
tions through  which  heroin  from  Red  China  is  reaching  the  United 
States.  Right  after  the  last  war  there  was  not  one  heroin  addict  in 
Japan,  and  I  suppose  today  they  have  as  many  as  we  have,  and  a  lot 
of  that  trafficking  is  in  the  hands  of  the  Communists,  members  of  the 
Communist  Party.  In  one  place  in  northern  Japan,  actually  the  head 
of  the  Communist  Party  Avas  peddling  the  stuff  for,  as  he  said,  funds 
to  take  care  of  the  party's  activities. 

In  September  1956  a  trafficker  here,  Leon  King,  was  arrested  in 
Japan  after  he  had  shipped  several  pounds  of  heroin  to  the  United 
States  which  was  obtained  in  China.  Here  is  a  seizure  which  reached 
Hong  Kong  from  Bangkok,  the  origin,  of  course,  being  Red  China, 
244  pounds.  Here  is  31  pounds  of  morphine.  There  was  another  large 
seizure  which  went  by  plane  from  Bangkok  over  to  London,  some  40 
pounds,  and  in  Ceylon  they  are  having  difficulty. 

In  February  of  1956  the  arrest  of  a  Chinese  in  San  Francisco  and 
the  seizure  of  1  pound  of  heroin  inicovered  an  organized  group  of 
traffickers  dealing  in  heroin  from  Red  China  for  3  years.  Members 
of  the  group  included  two  merchant  seamen  couriers  on  crack  Ameri- 
can passenger  liners,  and  the  leader  was  John  Watson,  a  tavern  op- 
erator in  Hong  Kong  with  connections  in  Communist  China. 

In  Vietnam  illicit  opium  from  Red  China  is  reaching  Saigon  in 
half-ton  lots. 

Mr.  SoxjRwiNE.  Commissioner,  you  mentioned  Ceylon.  Your  fig- 
ures would  appear  to  show  a  tremendous  percentage  increase  from  1954 
to  1955  in  Ceylon,  actually,  400  to  1. 

Mr.  Anslinger.  The  increase  there  is  rather  startling. 

Senator  Hruska.  Would  it  be  apt  to  be  a  more  vigilant  folio wup 
by  the  Ceylon  authorities  or  would  it  indicate  a  greater  volume  of 
imports  ? 

Mr.  Anslinger.  Sir,  it  is  both,  because  with  this  tremendous  traffic 
increasing,  they  must  become  more  alert  and  be  on  their  toes  to  meet 
this  problem,  and  that  is  the  situation  all  through  southeast  Asia  with 
enforcement  officers.  Some  of  the  enforcement  officers  have  been  to  our 
school  here,  which  was  set  up  under  the  recent  act  of  Congress,  and 
we  are  lending  a  helping  hand  wherever  we  can,  but  it  is  a  very 
difficult  proposition. 

Senator  Hruska.  Mr.  Anslinger,  I  think  it  would  be  a  fair  con- 
clusion on  the  basis  of  what  you  have  said  here,  that  there  seems  to 


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have  been  a  great  stepup  in  the  production  and  in  the  export  of  these 
drugs  from  Red  China.  Now,  ^Yhat  motives  would  they  have?  What 
would  you  say  the  motives  are?  You  have  already  given  one,  and 
that  is  gold.  That  is  a  pretty  universal  incentive,  but  have  they  any 
other  motives  besides  that  ? 

Mr.  Anslinger.  We  have  felt  certainly  in  the  Far  East  in  relation 
to,  for  instance,  our  personnel  there,  our  troops,  that  it  has  done  dam- 
age there.  However,  the  Army  has  just  about  cleaned  that  situation 
up.  They  have  done  a  remarkable  job  in  keeping  our  enlisted  people 
away  from  there. 

Senator  Hruska.  You  mean  the  American  troops  that  may  be  sta- 
tioned there  ? 

Mr.  Anslixger.  Yes,  sir. 

Senator  Hruska.  Stationed  at  any  of  those  points  accessible  to 
these  points  of  export  ? 

Mr.  Anslinger.  That  is  right ;  yes,  sir. 

I  pointed  out,  for  instance,  in  South  Korea  the  local  police  there  had 
arrested  2,400  young  agents  who  came  down  with  heroin  in  one  hand 
and  gold  in  the  other  and  were  trying  to  corrupt  our  people  there. 

Senator  Hruska.  Whose  agents  were  they  ? 

Mr.  Anslinger.  They  were  Commmiist  agents,  had  been  trained  in 
a  Communist  school  in  Rashin.    They  are  all  young  people. 

Now,  if  they  arrested  2,400,  you  can  imagine  how  many  more  were 
on  the  loose  there  with  their  efforts  to  corrupt  troops  or  corrupt  the 
civilians. 

In  answering  your  question  directly,  sir,  I  think  that  anyone  who 
sells  poison  to  his  fellow  man  knows  exactly  what  he  is  doing.  He  is 
trying  to  destroy  him. 

Senator  Hruska.  What  measures  is  the  United  Nations  taking  on 
this  whole  subject,  not  only  on  this  subject  in  general,  but  on  account  of 
this  increase,  this  new  impetus  which  it  seems  to  have  gained  ? 

Mr.  Anslinger.  Well,  sir,  we  have  been  trying  to  coordinate  the 
efforts  of  the  southeast  Asia  enforcement  personnel  and  invite  them  to 
every  meeting  where  this  matter  is  discussed  so  they  can  see  the  whole 
picture. 

Now,  the  United  Nations  is  not  operational  and  naturally  they  can't 
go  out  and  make  these  investigations.  They  have  to  depend  on  the 
local  authorities  for  their  reports.  That  is  on  the  one  hand.  Now, 
on  the  other  hand,  for  instance,  this  matter  of  synthetic  narcotic  drugs 
is  becoming  tremendously  increasing  throughout  the  world,  and  here 
the  United  Nations  has  done  a  wonderful  job  of  controlling  it.  So  far, 
these  synthetic  drugs  have  not  been  able  to  get  intb  this  traflic  through 
United  Nations  control,  through  a  system  of  import  and  export  cer- 
tificates and  watching  the  limitation  of  manufacture,  getting  the  esti- 
mates of  all  these  countries. 

But,  what  I  think  the  United  Nations  can  do  more  than  anything  is 
to  bring  world  opinion  to  bear  on  this,  and  that  is  just  about  our  best 
weapon,  sir.  World  opinion  certainly  is  about  the  only  thing  that  is 
effective  here. 

Mr.  SouRwiNE.  Do  these  synthetics  originate  in  Communist  or  non- 
Communist  countries  ? 

Mr.  Anslinger.  No;  they  have  not  appeared  yet  in  Communist 
China. 


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Mr.  SouRwiNE.  In  other  words,  the  United  Nations  is  able  to  exert 
some  moral  force  which  controls  these  synthetics  which  originate  in 
non-Communist  countries,  but  it  is  unable  to  exert  such  moral  force  to 
control  the  narcotics  which  originate  in  Communist  China. 

Mr.  Anslinger.  That  is  a  correct  statement,  sir. 

Now,  this  final  document  which  I  have  here,  which  is  just  some- 
thing  

Mr.  SouRwiNE.  May  I  interrupt  ?  May  I  ask,  Mr.  Chairman,  that 
the  full  text  of  the  statement  entitled  "Red  China  and  the  Narcotic 
Traffic,  1956,"  concerning  which  the  witness  has  testified,  be  put  in  the 
record  at  this  point  ? 

Senator  Hrtjska.  It  will  be  received. 

(The  document  referred  to  was  marked  "Exhibit  No.  440"  and  reads 

as  follows:) 

Exhibit  No.  440 

Red  China  and  the  Naecotic  Traffic,  1956 

I  have  called  to  the  attention  of  the  United  Nations  Commission  on  Narcotic 
Drugs  on  several  occasions  the  enormous  illicit  traffic  in  narcotic  drugs  pouring 
out  from  the  Chinese  mainland  to  many  countries  of  the  world.  At  the  present 
time  we  are  able  to  bring  the  traffic  originating  in  Communist  China  into  focus 
more  clearly  than  ever  before  by  noting  the  seizures  and  enforcement  conditions 
in  countries  directly  affected  by  the  overwhelming  supply  of  illicit  narcotics  from 
this  greatest  source.  In  the  United  States  the  availability  of  heroin  from  this 
source  is  felt  and  is  a  matter  of  concern.  However,  in  this  country  we  are  show- 
ing some  improvement,  largely  through  the  increased  effectiveness  of  the  weapons 
given  us  by  the  Congress.  The  most  potent  of  these  weapons  is  the  minimum 
5-year  penalty  for  illicit  sale  without  any  suspension  of  sentence,  probation  or 
parole.  This  has  already  discouraged  a  number  of  potential  sellers  who  have 
withdrawn  from  the  traffic. 

Enforcement  conditions  in  other  countries  are  such  that  these  countries  face 
the  continuing  deluge  of  narcotics  from  Red  China  only  with  great  difficulty  and 
with  the  danger  of  being  overwhelmed.  One  of  these  countries,  the  Federation 
of  Malayan  States,  has  banned  the  smoking  of  opium  and  has  waged  relentless 
war  against  the  traffickers  with  every  resource  available.  They  have  made  great 
progress,  but  are  faced  with  the  very  real  fact  that  a  constant  and  incresing 
supply  of  opium  from  Yunnan  and  other  neighboring  Provinces  of  Red  China 
makes  enforcement  very  difficult.  In  Malaya,  harassed  by  the  opium  from  Red 
China,  746  pounds  of  opium  were  seized  during  the  first  6  months  of  1956. 

In  Singapore  an  additional  3,364  pounds  of  opium  were  seized  during  the  same 
period.  In  one  3-month  period,  78  percent  of  the  seized  opium  could  be  traced  to 
the  Yunnan  area  of  Red  China.  The  authorities  are  extending  every  effort  to 
combat  the  traffic  as  shown  by  the  1,722  raids  on  smoking  opium  dens  made  during 
the  same  6  months.  Many  seizures  of  opium  are  made  in  lots  from  200  to  300 
pounds.  One  seizure  of  305  pounds  was  of  the  Crown  brand  and  the  Chinese 
inscription  on  the  wrapping  stated,  "Yunnan  genuine  quality  packing.  Always 
look  for  the  'Crown'  trademark.  Customers  please  beware  of  imitation."  This 
transit  point  in  world  shipping  is  one  of  the  principal  points  through  which 
heroin,  morphine,  and  opium  flow  out  of  Red  China. 

Late  seizures  indicate  the  traffic  through  Burma  from  Red  China  has  increased 
although  the  Government  of  Burma  reported  in  1954,  "There  were  360  seizures 
of  opium  smuggled  into  Burma  by  land  from  China,"  and  again  in  19.55,  "with 
regard  to  the  smuggling  of  opium  by  land,  there  were  500  seizures  in  the  Bhamo 
District  of  opium  smuggled  into  Burma  from  China."  Now  in  1956  we  have  the 
following  reported  seizures :  In  July  an  opium  seizure  of  562  pounds  was  made 
near  Mandalay.  In  August  3  seizures  of  opium  were  made  in  Kengtung  total- 
ing 3,010  pounds.  Kengtung  is  a  city  in  northeastern  Burma  and  is  the  hub 
through  which  passes  most  of  the  opium  destined  for  southeast  Asia  from  Red 
China.  The  seizures  show  the  officials  are  alert.  They  also  show  the  terriffic  prob- 
lem in  this  country  lying  adjacent  to  Red  China. 

The  production  of  opium  has  been  prohibited  in  Thailand  since  1949.  Several 
hundred  tons  of  opium  from  Red  China  annually  are  smuggled  through  Thailand, 
according  to  official  estimates.     This  traffic  is  not  limited  to  opium,  since  1 


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seizure  in  1956  included  132  pounds  of  morphine,  a  development  causing  concern 
to  the  United  Nations. 

Hong  Kong  and  Japan  continue  to  be  way  stations  through  which  heroin 
from  Red  China  is  reaching  the  United  States.  In  September  195G  a  trafficker, 
Leon  King,  from  Seattle,  Sun  Francisco,  and  Los  Angeles,  was  arrested  in  Japan 
after  he  had  shipped  several  pounds  of  heroin  to  the  United  States.  The  in- 
vestigation, following  his  arrest  in  Tokyo,  includes  his  activities  on  four  trips 
to  Japan  by  air  since  the  end  of  1955  to  arrange  for  shipments  of  heroin  from 
Hong  Kong  to  Japan  to  the  United  States. 

One  opium  seizure  which  reached  Hong  Kong  from  Bangkok  (evidently  Red 
China  was  the  source)  totaled  244  pounds;  31  pounds  of  morphine  arriving  by 
the  same  route  were  seized.  In  May  1956  one  seizure  of  200,000  heroin  pills  and 
11  pounds  of  heroin  pill  mixture  was  reported  by  Hong  Kong  authorities  who  esti- 
mated the  single  illicit  laboratory  raided  was  turning  out  batches  of  70,000  pills 
4  or  5  times  a  month.  The  Hong  Kong  authorities  are  exerting  every  effort  to 
cope  with  the  traffic. 

In  Ceylon  23  pounds  of  opium  were  seized  during  1954.  In  1955  this  increased 
to  1,022  pounds.  One  seizure  alone  was  850  pounds  and  the  report  from  that 
country  states  that  "this  opium  seizure  has  uncovered  a  big  international  ring 
who  are  using  Ceylon  as  their  base  to  receive  and  reexport  narcotics  to  various 
parts  of  the  world." 

In  February  1956  the  arrest  of  a  Chinese  in  San  Francisco  and  the  seizure  of 
1  pound  of  heroin  uncovered  an  organized  group  of  traffickers  dealing  in  heroin 
from  Red  China  for  3  years.  Members  of  the  group  included  two  merchant  sea- 
men couriers  on  crack  American  passenger  liners,  and  the  leader  and  brains  of 
the  conspiracy,  John  M.  Watson,  a  tavern  operator  in  Hong  Kong  with  connec- 
tions in  Communist  China. 

In  Vietnam  illicit  opium  from  Red  China  is  reaching  Saigon  in  half-ton  lots. 
Communists  maintain  control  of  the  sale  of  the  opium  whenever  possible  so  that 
they  obtain  the  major  part  of  the  profits. 

Mr.  Anslinger.  This  is  something  that  just  happened  a  few  weeks 
ago  and  I  think,  sir,  this  is  right  to  the  point,  right  to  the  point  of 
your  inquiry. 

The  flow  of  heroin  from  Red  China  continues  to  find  its  way  to  the 
United  States  through  our  west  coast  ports,  as  aptly  ilhistrated  by  a 
recent  investigation  completed  by  our  San  Francisco  office. 

For  a  number  of  years  George  Douglas  Poole  was  suspected  of  being 
the  ringleader  of  a  group  of  merchant  seamen  engaged  in  smuggling 
enormous  quantities  of  heroin  of  Communist  Chinese  origin  from  the 
Far  East  to  the  United  States.  The  scope  of  this  smuggling  activity 
was  not  fully  appreciated  until  the  story  of  their  conspiracy  unfolded 
in  testimony  given  by  two  members  of  the  ring,  William  and  Thomas 
Moeller. 

The  testimony  of  these  two  members  of  the  group  was  obtained  only 
through  the  use  of  a  new  and  most  potent  enforcement  aid  recently 
given  by  the  Congress — the  immunity-of-witness  provision  of  the 
Narcotic  Control  Act  of  1956.  In  addition  to  the  5-year  minimum 
penalty,  that  is  our  strongest  weapon  today,  as  you  will  see  from  the 
events  that  followed  here. 

The  heroin  smuggling  of  this  group  began  in  1948  and  continued 
through  1956.  Some  33  persons  were  involved.  The  smuggling  ven- 
ture was  started  in  1948  by  Anthony  J.  Longobardi,  James  Wood,  and 
Gerald  Williams,  all  merchant  seamen.  New  members  joined  the  ring 
and  the  tempo  of  their  smuggling  increased  under  the  leadership  of 
George  D.  Poole,  who  had  joined  the  group  shortly  after  its  inception. 

The  smuggling  method  of  this  group  hinged  on  the  fact  that  the 
majority  were  merchant  seamen,  shipping  out  from  San  Francisco 
to  ports  of  the  Orient. 


3622       SCOPE    OF    SOVIET   ACTIVITY    IN   THE    UNITED    STATES 

Prior  to  the  time  one  of  the  ring  was  due  to  sail,  members  of  the 
group  placed  equal  amounts  of  money  in  a  pool  for  the  proposed 
purchase.  The  member  acting  as  courier  met  the  heroin  source  in 
Hong  Kong  and  received  delivery. 

During  its  operation  the  ring  had  access  to  three  separate  sources  of 
this  Communist  Chinese  heroin.  These  mysterious  suppliers  were 
known  to  the  smuggling  group  only  as  Abdul,  Calli,  and  Goldteeth. 
The  quantities  of  heroin  smuggled  on  each  trip  usually  involved  sev- 
eral kilogi-ams.  A  kilogram  would  be  over  82  ounces  and  on  the 
illicit  market  at  the  retail  level,  an  ounce  would  be  worth  about  $3,000 
or  100  times  its  weight  in  g-old. 

After  obtaining  delivery  in  Hong  Kong,  the  courier  returned  to 
the  ship  and  hid  the  contraband  until  the  vessel  cleared  the  last  port  of 
call,  Honolulu.  The  heroin  was  then  removed  from  its  place  of  con- 
cealment and  sewed  to  the  inner  lining  of  a  parka,  a  jacket  commonly 
worn  by  seamen. 

When  the  vessel  arrived  in  San  Francisco  Harbor,  King  S.  Eich- 
ardson,  longshoreman  and  member  of  the  gang,  would  board  the  ves- 
sel in  the  bay  along  with  other  longshoremen.  While  the  ship  was 
preparing  to  dock,  Richardson  would  exchange  the  parka  he  was 
wearing  for  the  parka  containing  the  heroin  and  would  eventually 
leave  the  vessel  unmolested  and  free  from  search,  carrying  the  heroin. 
The  heroin  was  then  distributed  by  the  ring  in  wholesale  quantities 
to  dealers  along  the  west  coast.  From  time  to  time  members  of  the 
ring  would  hold  meetings  to  split  the  proceeds  and  arrange  for 
additional  heroin  shipments. 

The  quantity  of  heroin  smuggled  into  the  United  States  by  this  ring 
alone — and  we  are  working  on  several  other  rings  as  a  result  of  this 
immunity  provision — has  been  estimated  at  70  kilograms. 
Senator  Hruska.  Over  what  period  of  time  ? 

Mr.  Anslinger.  I  think  from  1948.  This  one  small  group,  until  we 
took  care  of  them  the  other  day — from  1948  to  1956. 

Now,  70  kilograms  of  heroin  is  a  tremendous  quantity.  We  wouldn't 
seize  that  mucli  heroin  in  a  year  in  the  United  States.  And  when 
you  get  down  to  the  retail  level,  the  value  goes  into  astronomical 
figures. 

A  Federal  grand  jury  in  San  Francisco  currently  hearing  this  mat- 
ter has  already  returned  indictments  against  nine  of  the  most  im- 
portant members  of  the  ring,  and  other  indictments  are  expected  short- 
ly.    We  have  in  the  past  also  done  work  of  this  kind  without  the 
benefit  of  the  immunity  statute,  and  we  indicted  Juda  Ezrin  in  Hong 
Kong,  one  of  the  big  ringleaders  who  has  a  reputation  for  controlling 
heroin  traffic  out  of  Communist  China.    We  were  able  to  convict  all 
the  ringleaders  in  San  Francisco,  but  we  could  not  get  hold  of  Ezrin. 
Senator  Hruska.  That  70  kilograms,  is  that  what  the  quantity 
was  over  a  period  of  8  years  ? 
Mr.  Anslinger.  Yes,  by  this  small  group  of  seamen. 
Senator  Hruska.  However,  there  would  be  no  way  of  determining, 
then,  the  impact,  if  any,  of  this  increased  emphasis  within  Red  China 
itself  as  you  earlier  described  as  being  exported  to  neighboring  coun- 
tries ? 

Mr.  Anslinger.  No.  The  activities  of  this  small  ring  would  not  m- 
dicate  that,  but  we  certainly  have  seen  the  increase  in  the  amount  of 
heroin  coming  into  the  west  coast  from  Communist  China. 


SCOPE    OF    SOVIET    ACTIVITY    IN    THE    UNITED    STATES      3623 

Senator  Hruska.  Not  on  the  basis  of  this  one  estimate  but 

Mr.  Anslinger.  Not  on  the  basis 

Senator  Hruska.  But  projected  into  the  entire  picture,  you  probably 
would  have  some  grounds  for  drawing  a  conclusion ;  is  that  right  ? 

Mr.  Anslinger.  That  is  correct,  and  from  the  seizure  reports  that 
have  reached  the  United  Nations  up  to  this  time,  I  can  see  already  that 
we  will  be  very  much  disturbed  at  the  increase  over  last  year. 

Mr.  SouRWiNE.  I  would  like  to  ask  just  one  question. 

Senator  Hruska.  Before  you  do  that,  there  will  be  included  in  the 
record  at  this  point,  the  full  text  of  this  memorandum  on  George 
Douglas  Poole  and  others. 

(The  memorandum  referred  to  was  marked  "Exhibit  No.  441"  and 
reads  as  follows:) 

Exhibit  No.  441 

george  douglas  poole  et  al. 

The  flow  of  heroin  from  Red  China  continues  to  find  its  way  to  the  United 
States  through  our  west  coast  ports,  as  aptly  illustrated  by  a  recent  investigation 
completed  by  the  San  Francisco  ofiice  of  the  Bureau  of  Narcotics. 

For  a  number  of  years  George  Douglas  Poole  was  suspected  of  being  the  ring- 
leader of  a  group  of  merchant  seamen  engaged  in  smuggling  enormous  quanti- 
ties of  heroin  of  Communist  Chinese  origin  from  the  Far  East  to  the  tjnited 
States.  The  scope  of  this  smuggling  activity  was  not  fully  appreciated  until 
the  story  of  their  conspiracy  unfolded  in  testimony  given  by  two  members  of  the 
ring,  William  and  Thomas  Moeller. 

The  testimony  of  these  two  members  of  the  group  was  obtained  only  thi-ough 
the  use  of  a  new  and  most  potent  enforcement  aid  recently  given  us  by  Con- 
gress— the  immunity-of -witness  provision  of  the  Narcotic  Control  Act  of  1956. 

The  heroin  smuggling  of  this  group  began  in  1948  and  continued  through  1956. 
Some  33  persons  were  involved. 

The  smuggling  venture  was  started  in  1948  by  Anthony  J.  Longobardi,  James 
C.  V7ood  and  Gerald  F.  Williams,  all  merchant  seamen.  New  members  joined 
the  ring,  and  the  tempo  of  their  smuggling  increased  under  the  leadership  of 
George  D.  Poole,  who  had  joined  the  group  shortly  after  its  inception. 

The  smuggling  method  of  this  group  hinged  on  the  fact  that  the  majority  were 
merchant  seamen,  shipping  out  from  San  Francisco  to  ports  of  the  Orient. 

Prior  to  the  time  one  of  the  ring  was  due  to  sail,  members  of  the  group  placed 
equal  amounts  of  money  in  a  pool  for  the  proposed  purchase.  The  member  act- 
ing as  courier  met  the  heroin  source  in  Hong  Kong  and  received  delivery. 

During  its  operation  the  ring  had  access  to  three  separate  sources  of  this 
Communist  Chinese  heroin.  These  mysterious  suppliers  were  known  to  the 
smuggling  group  only  as  Abdul,  CaUi,  and  Goldteeth. 

The  quantities  of  heroin  smuggled  on  each  trip  usually  involved  several  kilo- 
grams. 

After  obtaining  delivery  in  Hong  Kong,  the  courier  returned  to  the  ship  and 
Ijid  the  contraband  until  the  vessel  cleared  the  last  port  of  call,  Honolulu.  The 
heroin  was  then  removed  from  its  place  of  concealment  and  sewed  to  the  inner 
lining  of  a  parka,  a  jacket  commonly  worn  by  seamen. 

When  the  vessel  arrived  in  San  Francisco  harbor,  King  S.  Richardson,  long- 
shoreman and  member  of  the  gang,  would  board  the  vessel  in  the  bay,  along  with 
other  longshoremen. 

While  the  ship  was  preparing  to  dock,  Richardson  would  exchange  the  parka 
ho  was  wearing  for  the  parka  containing  the  heroin  and  would  eventually  leave 
the  vessel  unmolested  and  free  from  search,  carrying  the  heroin. 

The  heroin  was  then  distributed  by  the  ring  in  wholesale  quantities  to  dealers 
along  the  west  coast.  From  time  to  time  members  of  the  ring  would  hold  meet- 
ings to  split  the  proceeds  and  arrange  for  additional  heroin  shipments. 

The  quantity  of  heroin  smuggled  into  the  United  States  by  this  ring  has  been 
estimated  at  70  kilograms.  It  is  believed,  however,  that  this  is  a  conservative 
figure,  and  that  the  actual  quantity  would  greatly  exceed  that  amount,  as  some 
of  the  members  of  the  group  were  able  to  establish  themselves  in  business  from 
the  proceeds  of  their  heroin  smuggling. 

A  Federal  grand  jury  in  San  Francisco  currently  hearing  this  matter  has 
already  returned  indictments  against  nine  of  the  most  important  members  of 

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3624       SCOPE    OF    SOVIET    ACTIVITY    IN    THE    UNITED    STATES 

the  ring,  and  additional  indictments  are  expected  shortly.  Also,  several  mem- 
bers of  the  ring  are  already  in  jail,  serving  sentences  for  narcotic  violations 
resulting  from  this  group's  activity. 

Mr.  SouRWiNE.  Mr.  Anslinger,  do  you  have  knowledge  of  the  Com- 
munist agents  as  such  engaged  in  expanding  the  narcotics  traffic? 
You  spoke  of  one  Communist  leader  whom  you  knew.  Are  there  other 
instances  ? 

Mr.  Anslinger.  In  Japan  we  do  know.  We  do  know  that  that  is  a 
matter  of  record. 

Mr.  SouRWiNE.  Would  you  say  that  makes  a  pattern.  Mr.  Anslin- 
? 

Mr.  Anslinger.  Well,  I  think  tiiere  is  a  pattern  all  through 
southeast  Asia.  Now,  we  have  not  seen  that  in  this  country  except  to 
this  extent,  that  some  of  these  seamen — and  I  would  suppose  that 
these  men  were  a  part  of  the  seamen  who  usually  went  down  to  a  hall 
where  there  are  a  lot — it  was  known  as  a  Communist  hangout  in  San 
Francisco.  Seamen  who  were  known  to  have  Communist  leanings, 
that  is  where  they  conducted  their  social  activity,  their  meeting  place. 

Now,  we  have  not  had  any  case  here  of  a  Communist  agent  as  such. 
We  could  not  identify  him  as  being  engaged  in  the  traffic.  However, 
the  other  people,  that  is,  our  other  friends  in  Burma  and  Thailand  and 
Japan,  have  had. 

Mr.  Sourwine.  They  have  had  Communist  agents? 

Mr.  Anslinger.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Sourwine.  Summarizing  something  you  said  earlier,  do  I  un- 
derstand you  correctly  that  you  have  testified  that  the  Nationalist 
Government  of  China  through  enforcement  of  its  own  laws  had  prac- 
tically altered  the  export  of  opium  and  opium  derivatives  from  China, 
but  under  the  Ked  regime  it  has  increased  and  is  increasing  periodi- 
cally? 

Mr.  Anslinger.  That  is  a  correct  statement,  and  it  is  well  docu- 
mented. 

Mr.  Sourwine.  Thank  you,  sir. 

Senator  Hruska.  Thank  you  very  much,  Mr.  Anslinger,  for  your 
testimony  and  for  the  time  that  you  have  taken  to  be  with  us. 

Our  next  witness  will  be  Father  Tennien. 

Will  you  raise  your  right  hand  and  be  sworn,  please? 

Do  you  solemnly  swear  that  the  testimony  you  are  about  to  give 
will  be  the  truth,  the  whole  truth,  and  nothing  but  the  truth,  so  help 
vou  God? 

Father  Tennien.  I  do. 

TESTIMONY  OF  FATHER  MARK  TENNIEN 

Senator  Hruska.  Will  you  state  your  name  and  address  for  the 
reporter,  please? 

Father  Tennien.  Father  Mark  Tennien,  Maryknoll  Missions 
Society.  My  present  address  is  Maryknoll  office,  121  East  29th  Street, 
New  York  City. 

Mr.  Sourwine.  Father,  just  by  way  of  identifying  you  for  the 
record,  you  are  a  native  of  Pittsford,  Vt. 

Father  Tennien.  Y^'es,  sir. 

Mr.  Sourwine.  You  went  to  school  in  Montreal,  at  Holy  Cross  in 
Baltimore,  and  at  Maryknoll. 


SCOPE    OF    SOVIET   ACTIVITY    EST    THE    UNITED    STATES       3625 

Father  Tennien.  Eight. 

Mr.  SouRWiNE.  You  were  ordained  in  1927  and  you  taught  at  Mary- 
knoll  Prep. 

Father  Tennien.  Yes,  sir,  for  1  year. 

Mr.  SouRwiNE.  You  went  to  China  in  1928. 

Father  Tennien.  Correct. 

Mr.  SouRWiNE.  In  Chungking,  during  the  Second  World  War,  you 
wrote  Chungking  Listening  Post. 

Father  Tennien.  Just  at  the  end  of  the  war,  after  it  was  finished. 
The  material,  of  course,  was  gathered  during  the  war  and  assembled 
and  written  just  at  the  end  of  the  war,  the  last  few  months  of  the  war. 

Mr.  SouRWiNE.  You,  yourself,  were  under  house  arrest  for  2  years. 

Father  Tennien.  Right. 

Mr.  SotJRWiNE.  You  spent  3  months  in  a  jail  cell  with  about  40 
Chinese  ? 

Father  Tennien.  Unfortunately,  or  fortunately,  yes. 

Mr.  Sourwine.  You  went  through  the  Communist  indoctrination 
course  ? 

Father  Tennien.  Yes.    I  passed  the  examinations. 

Mr.  Sourwine.  You  were  expelled  from  China  in  1952. 

Father  Tennien.  That  is  right.    The  beginning. 

Mr.  SouR"s\^NE.  You  returned  as  the  director  of  the  China  Mission 
News  Service  and  were  stationed  in  Hong  Kong. 

Father  Tennien.  Yes ;  the  last  4  years. 

Mr.  Sourwine.  You  were  editor  of  the  mission  bulletin  in  Hong- 
Kong  from  1953  to  1956? 

Father  Tennien.  That  is  right. 

Mr.  Sourwine.  During  that  time  you  had  an  opportunity  to  inter- 
view a  great  many  missionaries  who  were  forced  out  of  China  by 
the  Reds. 

Father  Tennien.  Yes.  Probably  700  or  800,  at  least,  who  had  gone 
through  indoctrination  or  imprisonment  or  who  had  lived  for  several 
years  under  the  Communist  regime,  and  we  have  had  to  write  that 
up  more  or  less  for  history  and  as  a  documented  report  of  the  things 
which  they  had  seen  so  as  to  have  a  record  of  it  and  a  record  of  events 
in  regard  to  mission  history  for  the  future.     That  is  why  I  did  that. 

Senator  Hruska.  And  in  point  of  time,  when  did  these  interviews 
occur.  Father? 

Father  Tennien.  Well,  it  was  more  or  less  intermittent  from  week 
to  week.  Sometimes  we  would  get  10  or  12  a  week  and  sometimes  they 
would  go  up  as  high  as  25  and  30. 

Senator  Hruska.  Over  what  years  ? 

Father  Tennien.  From  the  middle  of  1952,  when  I  went  there,  the 
end  of  1952  when  I  went  back,  up  until  last  August  wlien  I  came  back 
from  Hong  Kong. 

Senator  Hruska.  With  a  total  of  some  700  or  800. 

Father  Tennien.  At  least.    I  haven't  totaled  tliem  up.  but  roughly. 

Senator  Hruska.  But  roughly. 

Father  Tennien.  Yes.  There  were  2,500  Catholic  priests  thrown 
out  of  China  and  during  the  first  2  years  I  was  in  China  with  them, 
and  so  I  interviewed  those  only  after  1952  and  during  the  last  3  years! 
And  I  would  make  a  rough  estimate  that  there  were  probably  700  or 
800  priests  and  Sisters  of  different  foreign  nationalities  who  came 
out,  and  I  interviewed  them  and  got  their  storv. 


3626       SCOPE    OF    SOVIET    ACTIVITY    IN    THE    UNITED    STATES 

Mr.  SouRwiNE.  You  are  testifying,  then,  both  from  your  own  knowl- 
edge of  conditions  and  from  what  you  have  learned  through  these  many 
hundreds  of  interviews. 

Father  Texxien.  Yes;  I  think  this  could  be  called  a  confirmation  of 
wliat  I  had  seen,  and  it  rather  backs  up  the  theories  and  conclusions 
that  I  had  come  to  about  communism  myself  because  they  are  prettv 
mucli  unanimous  and  pretty  much  the  same  of  all  the  men  who  have 
come  out. 

Mr.  SouRwiNE.  Father  Tennien.  vTould  you  say  that  the  Red  enslave- 
ment of  China  is  complete  ? 

Father  Tennien.  Temporarily  it  is  effective.  I  don't  know  whether 
you  would  call  it  complete  or  not,  because  in  order  to  be  complete  en- 
slavement, you  would  have  to  silence  every  voice  and  squash  every 
contrary  opinion  and,  of  course,  that  is  humanly  impossible. 

There  is  a,  what  would  you  call  it,  an  opposing  opinion,  although  it 
isn't  very  vociferous.  It  is  certainly  very  strong,  and  people  would 
talk  to  me  during  the  period  when  I  was  under  house  arrest,  both  be- 
fore and  after  my  imprisonment,  to  show  you  the  actual  viewpoint 
of  the  people,  and  their  dislike  of  communism,  because  there  wasn't,  in 
my  experience,  one  person  who  said  he  liked  communism.  So  that  is 
the  conclusion  that  I  would  come  to,  that  I  have  drawn  from  interview- 
ing and  talking  to  these  different  people  in  Communist  China. 

Mr.  Sourwine.  Does  anv  friendship  for  America  persist  among 
the  Chinese  people  ? 

Father  Tennien.  Yes ;  in  prison  I  had  these  men  who  would  whisper 
to  you  in  the  middle  of  the  night.  We  were  all  crowded  together  in 
the  cell  and  they  w^ould  ask  you,  "Is  America  coming  to  our  help? 
America  is  our  greatest  friend." 

Coming  down  on  the  ship  when  I  was  expelled  from  Communist 
China,  when  the  guard  was  away,  these  shipping  people  talked  to  me 
and  they  said,  "Don't  believe  what  these  people  are  telling  you.  This 
man  told  me" — and  he  talked  over  the  back  of  his  hand  like  this,  so 
that  they  would  not  watch  and  read  his  lips,  and  he  said,  "America  is 
our  friend  and  we  are  hoping  for  America  to  save  us  from  what  we 
are  in  now." 

I  think  that,  generally,  expresses  the  opinion  of  the  Chinese  people, 
because  they  have  been  friendly,  as  far  as  I  know,  always,  and,  of 
course,  they  can  be  swayed  and  can  be  held  under  the  sway  of  com- 
munism to  voice  and  parrot  what  they  are  told  to  say  and  do  because 
they  train  people  that  way  under  their  system  of  indoctrination. 

But  when  you  get  the  unadulterated  and  uninfluenced  opinion,  there 
is  certainly  a  strong  influence,  a  strong  friendship  for  America,  and  a 
hope  that  America  will  come  to  their  rescue  in  the  end. 

Mr.  Sourwine.  Is  there  a  resistance  movement  in  Red  China  ? 

Father  Tennien.  There  is  a  desire  for  resistance,  and  it  is  very  nu- 
merous, but  I  think  the  Communists  have  it  under  such  strict  control 
that  it  doesn't  amount  to  very  much,  effectively.  It  would  be  there 
to  depend  on  and  count  on  if  they  ever  wanted  to  use  that.  That  is 
certain,  because  human  nature  can  be  pushed  only  to  a  certain  extent 
and  certain  limits,  and  after  that  it  begins  to  rebel  and  hate  the  sys- 
tem that  is  torturing  it  so  strongly  that  it  will  then  just  break  out  the 
same  as  it  has  done  in  Hungary  and  Poland  and  other  countries. 

That  is  there  in  China.  It  may  take  some  time,  but  it  certainly  is 
going  to  break  out  and  rebel  against  the  system  and,  of  course,  that 


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is  our  hope  because  when  any  government  can't  get  loyalty — if  we  did 
not  have  loyalty  of  our  people  here  in  America,  if  we  were  holding 
them  under  a  dictatorship,  under  a  tyranny,  when  the  occasion  arose 
or  when  the  opportunity  or  promise  of  relief  arose,  they  would  imme- 
diately take  it  and  overthrow  the  government. 

That  is  the  weakness,  of  course,  of  communism  everywhere,  because 
they  cannot  command  and  have  any  loyalty  to  the  system. 

Mr.  SouRwiNE.  Are  any  of  the  so-called  four  freedoms  protected 
in  Red  China,  freedom  of  speech,  freedom  of  press,  freedom  from  fear, 
and  freedom  of  worship  ?  Let's  take  them  one  by  one.  Is  there  any 
freedom  of  speech  in  Red  China  ? 

Father  Tennien.  There  is  no  freedom  of  speech  in  Red  China. 
There  isn't,  of  course,  in  any  Communist  country.  We  used  to  think 
that  Chinese  communism  might  be  a  little  diiferent,  but,  after  watch- 
ing it  in  operation  and  action  a  couple  of  years,  you  come  to  the  con- 
clusion that  it  is  just  the  same  there  as  anywhere. 

Mr.  SouRwiNE.  Is  there  any  freedom  of  the  press  in  Red  China? 

Father  Tennien.  There  is  absolutely  no  freedom  of  the  press. 
When  I  was  under  house  arrest,  I  used  to  get  magazines  like  Time, 
Saturday  Evening  Post,  Life,  and  those  magazines,  but,  immediately 
after  the  Communist  took  over,  they  took  all  those  out  of  the  mail  and 
would  not  let  me  get  any  more  except  to  show  me  some  of  the  adver- 
tisements, like  they  had,  I  remember,  a  cover  on  one  of  Collier's  maga- 
zines showing  a  picnic  and  showing  the  living  standards  of  America — 
people  dressed  in  sports  clothes  and  the  table  piled  high  with  fruits 
and  sandwiches,  and  everything  you  could  imagine,  and  the  chief  of 
police  came  in  and  said,  "Is  that  actually  true?"  because  they  heard 
so  much  propaganda  against  America.  "Is  that  actually  true,  that 
you  people  have  all  that  prosperity  and  all  that  wealth  and  all  that 
goodness?" 

I  said,  "Yes;  that  is  an  ordinary  picture."  And  so  they  are  looking 
and  looking  to  America  and  looking  at  it  as  an  ideal,  perhaps  rightly 
or  wrongly,  because  some  of  our  material  prosperity  isn't  so  much  to 
the  good  as  some  other  things,  as  our  spiritual  values,  that  we  could 
give  them.     But  they  are  looking  to  us. 

Mr.  Sourwine.  Have  the  Red  Chinese  done  anything  to  bring  about 
freedom  from  want  in  Red  China  ? 

Father  Tennien.  They  have  made  a  very  strong  effort.  Now,  they 
have  accomplished  quite  a  bit.  I  always  try  to  look  at  these  things 
objectively.  I  have  been  preparing  to  write  something  on  it  and  so  I 
would  say  that  they  have  done  quite  a  bit,  but  it  is  through  their 
method  of  tyranny  and  force  and  a  dictatorship  which  controls  all  hu- 
man effort  and  all  activity  and,  therefore,  they  can  accomplish  a  lot 
where  we  couldn't  under  another  system  of  government. 

But  you  have  to  always  counterbalance  what  they  gain  and  what 
they  lose  in  a  system  like  this. 

Now,  if  they  had  gained  in  a  material  way,  more  business,  which 
some  people  may  think  they  have — I  personally  do  not  think  they 
have — then  they  have  lost  by  their  freedom  of  thought,  their  freedom 
of  expression,  their  freedom  of  press,  and  they  are  mere  cogs  in  the 
wheel  of  communism  to  go  along  and  do  as  they  are  told  to  do. 

Mr.  Sourwine.  Are  you  saying.  Father,  that  they  have  traded  their 
freedoms  and  their  natural  rights  for  a  minimum  of  security,  or  do  they 
have  even  that  minimum  of  security  in  Red  China  today  ? 


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Father  Tennien.  Wliat  kind  of  security  ? 

Mr.  SouRWiNE.  Physical  security. 

Father  Tennien.  With  inflation  and  all  the  other  things,  I  think 
they  have  gained  a  certain  material  prosperity,  a  certain  advancement.: 
But  to  do  that  they  have  surrendered  and  lost  other  balancing  things. 
They  have  lost  freedom  and  they  have  lost  far  more  than  they  have 
gained. 

Mr.  SouRWiNE.  How  about  the  fourth  freedom,  freedom  from  fear  ? 
Do  they  have  that  in  Red  China  today  ? 

Father  Tennien.  I  think  that  is  one  of  the  most  difficult  things 
under  the  Communist  system,  this  great  fear  under  which  they  live, 
because  nobody  can  talk  to  his  brother  or  sister  without  distrusting 
him  and  thinking  that  he  will  report  on  him,  and  they  live  in  constant 
fear  because  they  are  spied  upon  and  watched.  Even  when  I  was 
under  house  arrest,  I  would  see  the  children  who  were  taught  to  spy 
creep  up  to  the  windows  and  listen  to  any  official  who  would  come  to 
talk  with  me  when  I  was  under  house  arrest,  and  he  would  be  very 
cautious.  He  would  never  come  inside  unless  he  was  with  another 
official,  because  he  would  be  reported  and  he  wanted  to  have  a  witness. 

It  is  some  kind  of  dog-eat-dog  system  and  everybody  is  living  in 
fear. 

Senator  Jenner.  How  does  that  affect  the  family  life?  In  other 
words,  the  family  life  was  always  a  strong  unit  in  China. 

Father  Tennien.  It  is  a  strong  unit. 

Senator  Jenner.  How  was  that  affected  ? 

Father  Tennien.  There  has  been  quite  a  lot  of  disloyalty  among 
family  members,  because  the  Communists  work  these  people  up  by  a 
system  of  indoctrination  to  thinking  that  the  state  is  so  glorious  that 
it  counts  more  than  your  family  relations  and  you  should,  therefore, 
report  on  your  father  if  he  is  saying  something  against  the  govern- 
ment, or  the  father  should  report  on  the  mother,  and  vice  versa,  be- 
cause it  is  the  glory  of  the  state. 

They  are  aiming  at  the  glory  of  this  great  new  paradise,  which  the 
Communists  want  to  bring  about — this  utopia.  But  the  family,  of 
course,  is  the  great  unit  in  China  as  it  is  everywhere  else,  and  I  think 
even  more  so  in  China,  because  they  are  not  dissipated  and  not  broken 
apart.  They  are  more  unified  in  China  than  they  are,  I  would  say,  in 
a  country  like  America  where  we  are  constantly  moving  to  the  cities 
and  working,  in  industries. 

But.  in  China,  the  family  unit  of  these  farming  people  is  very  strong, 
great  loyalty  among  the  family  members. 

Senator  Hruska.  Getting  back  to  the  freedom  of  the  press  that  you 
talked  about  a  little  bit,  are  there  any  such  things  as  outlawed  news- 
papers or  any  such  things  as  pamphlets  which  are  printed  which  would 
indicate  an  underground  or  resistance  movement? 

Father  Tenxtex.  That  is  not  very  evident.  I  don't  think  there  are 
papers  like  this  widely  circulated.  The  "bamboo  wireless"  that  they 
talk  about  in  China  is  a  Avonderful  system  of  communicating.  It 
brings  true  news,  false  news,  rumors,  and  all  sorts  of  things.  So 
the  news  does  get  around.  Even  the  news  that  is  against  Communist 
China  and  the  news  which  is  favorable  to  America  does  get  around. 
Even  the  victories  when  the  Korean  war  was  gomg  on — I  was  m 
prison  and  during  the  interrogation  he  would  ask  me  how  I  knew 
about  so  many  of  these  things. 


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These  things  pass  around  from  one  person  to  another  and  they 
are  whispered  to  you  in  the  day  or  in  the  night  or  even  in  a  prison 
cell  if  the  Communists  failed  in  their  objective  in  driving  through 
Korea. 

So,  that  carries  on,  but  nothing  that  you  could  see,  no  open  papers 
carried  on  because  it  can't  be  done. 

Nationalists  have  dropped  a  great  many  pamphlets.  They  have 
made  a  great  many  excursions  into  China,  and  I  think  that  is  an 
excellent  way  of  arousing  dissatisfaction  with  the  present  govern- 
ment and  giving  hope  to  those  people  of  relief  at  some  future  time. 

As  far  as  radios  and  other  communications,  they  are  so  rare  and  so 
few  in  China,  except  in  the  big  cities,  that  you  can't  get  very  much 
news  in  through  radio.  But  where  they  do  have  them  in  the  cities, 
like  when  the  Communists  first  came  in  when  I  was  in  Canchiang, 
south  China,  they  regulated  that  radio.  They  took  in  all  the  others 
around  the  town  and  they  had  one  in  the  central  part  of  the  town 
that  everybody  could  listen  to,  and  you  could  listen  to  Nanking,  Peking, 
or  Russian  stations,  but  no  others.  If  you  were  even  reported  to  have 
listened  to  another  station,  it  meant  interrogation  and  probably  a 
jail  sentence. 

Senator  Hruska.  Is  there  any  degree  of  religious  freedom  in  Red 
China,  would  you  say  ? 

Father  Tennion.  There  is  a  degree  of  religion  in  Red  China.  I 
think  it  is  mostly  for  the  window-dressing.  They  let  religion  go  on 
to  a  certain  extent  in  the  big  cities  and  they  let  religion  operate,  and 
the  ministers  and  priests  of  religion  operate  as  long  as  they  are  sub- 
ject to  them,  and  that  is  why  there  has  been  a  great  conflict  going  on 
in  China  between  a  state-governed  religion  and  the  Roman  Catholic 
religion. 

You  see,  it  offers  competition.  They  want  loyalty  only  to  them,  and 
they  want  to  be  the  idols  and  they  want  to  be  the  people  worshiped, 
the  people  obeyed,  and  if  people  are  loyal  to  God  and  are  really  loyal 
to  the  Roman  Catholic  faith,  it  offers  a  very  strong  competitor  which 
they  are  trying  to  ruin. 

Now,  they  are  using  various  means,  various  ways  to  destroy  religion. 
First  of  all,  they  started  to  close  the  churches  in  the  country,  and 
after  that  they  closed  a  great  many  of  them  in  the  city.  I  had  evi- 
dence of  over  500  Chinese  priests  in  jail  last  summer  when  I  left,  out 
of  around  2,000  Chinese  priests.  There  were  something  over  2,000 
Chinese  priests  but  we  had  definite  knowledge  of  over  500  of  them  that 
were  in  prison  because  we  got  letters  from  others  and  they  used  terms 
like,  "He  is  in  the  hospital,"  or,  "He  is  undergoing  the  Pauline  Privi- 
lege," like  St.  Paul  being  jail,  and  things  like  that,  the  other  priests 
would  write  out. 

And  those  were  free,  working  on  the  lands,  and  in  this  increased  pro- 
duction aim  of  the  Communists,  and  they  are  able  to  carry  on  quite  a 
bit  of  underground  and  quite  a  bit  they  are  permitted  to  carry  on, 
but  it  is  not  freedom  of  religion,  not  at  all. 

Senator  Hruska.  Father,  you  have  indicated  that  you  were  one  of 
the  so-called  victims  of  indoctrination  methods  of  the  Reds  and  you 
have  had  many,  many  reports  of  those  procedures.  Could  you  de- 
scribe some  of  their  methods  and  their  techniques  ? 

Father  Tennien.  Yes.  I  found  that  a  most  fascinating  study.  In 
Hong  Kong  during  the  last  few  years  I  have  watched  these  people 


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come  out  and  watched  their  reaction  and  then  watched  them  get  mi- 
wound,  so  to  speak.    They  came  out  after,  perhaps,  1  year,  2  years,  or 

3  years  of  imprisonment,  of  intense  indoctrination,  having  been  cut 
off  from  the  outside  world  and  being  fed  only  this  Communist  way  of 
thinking. 

Now,  many  of  them  came  out  and  they  were  mentally  disturbed.  It 
took  them  3  weeks,  4  weeks,  some  of  them  even  a  month  before  they 
began  to  lose  their  fear  and  they  began  to  get  their  balance. 

They  would  come  out  and  want  to  write  Mao  Tse-tung  thanking 
him  for  the  nice  treatment  after  keeping  them  in  slave  labor  for  3  or 

4  years.  And  they  would  come  out — they  were  thinking  like  Com- 
munists. They  had  been  so  brainwashed  and  so  indoctrinated  that 
they  weren't  normal. 

Senator  Hruska.  Is  that  achieved  by  classes  or  by  any  concentrated 
methods,  or  is  it  simply  a  way  of  life  that  they  lead  them  through  and 
get  them  to  thinking  in  those  terms  ? 

Father  Tennien.  That  is  a  universal  system  under  commmiism.  I 
think  if  you  want  to  understand  it,  you  have  to  look  at  it  like  this.  I 
have  thought  about  it  a  great  deal  since  I  have  come  out  and  thought 
about  the  Pavlov  theory.  You  know,  Pavlov,  this  Russian  biologist, 
developed  this  theory  after  experimenting  with  rats,  cats,  and  dogs, 
and  saying  that  you  could  apply  certain  punishment,  certain  induce- 
ments, certain  rewards,  and  you  could  get  that  animal  to  change  its 
reaction  from  a  normal  reaction  and  follow  out  exactly  as  the  person 
wanted  that  animal  to  do  by  certain  training  and  punishment  and 
discipline. 

The  Communists,  of  course,  believe  that  men  are  only  animals,  that 
we  are  without  a  soul,  and  that  a  man's  reflexes  can  be  so  conditioned 
and  so  changed  that  he  will  think  according  to  party-line  thought. 

Now,  in  order  to  accomplish  that,  they  have  to  indoctrinate  the 
people.  They  have  brought  in  indoctrinators  from  Russia.  Many  of 
their  men  studied  in  Russia  and  they  follow  the  blueprint  of  what  is 
to  happen  today  and  tomorrow  and  all  the  details  of  how  it  was  done 
in  Russia. 

Now,  they  start  in  by  tackling  the  teachers.  After  the  schoolteach- 
ers, then  they  indoctrinate  the  village  leaders  and  these  people  of 
influence  and  this  goes  on  for  almost  the  first  year  after  the  system 
has  come  in. 

Then  they  take  these  men  and  they  divide  a  whole  country  and  with 
these  leaders,  schoolteachers,  village  chiefs,  and  county  chiefs,  and 
all,  then  they  instruct  the  whole  mass  of  people. 

Now,  these  people  have  to  be  changed  so  that  they  will  think  accord- 
ing to  the  Communist  way  of  thinking,  and  that  means,  of  course,  that 
the  Politburo  and  the  other  people  are  going  to  give  the  orders,  are 
going  to  tell  you  what  to  think  and  what  to  say  and  what  to  do  and 
that  you  are  to  follow  that  without  any  deviation,  without  any  con- 
trary thought,  without  any  contradiction,  and  that  you  will  follow 
out  and  do. 

So,  they  have  got  to  change  everybody's  reflexes  and  they  do  it  by 
discipline  and  they  do  it  by  indoctrination,  by  teaching  and  by  enforce- 
ment, by  tyranny,  and  if  you  are  under  that  system,  you  will  see  that 
it  works,  and  it  does  work  and  it  changes  a  person.  They  call  it  brain- 
washing, molding  the  mind,  and  all  that,  and  it  actually  does  work. 


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Senator  Hruska.  We  hear  terms  like  persuasion  and  also  the  rule 
of  tlie  liickory  stick.    Does  that  fall  in  that  same  category  ? 

Father  Tenniex.  Well,  nothing  so  gentle  and.  mild  as  a  hickory 
stick.  It  is  something  more  vicious  and  something  that  you  can't  see. 
If  they  are  working  on  you,  they  will  work  on  you  by  mental  torture. 

Now,  for  instance,  if  you  were  guilty  of  some  slight  infraction,  they 
would  put  you  up  before  the  interrogators  and  disclose  all  your  faults 
and  all  your  weaknesses  and  all  your  shortcomings,  and  so  humiliate 
vou  and  embarrass  you  before  the  crowd.  That  would  be  the  first 
step.     All  right. 

Then,  if  you  went  through  it  again  you  probably  get  a  short  jail 
sentence,  a  short  jail  sentence  of  2  or  3  months,  and  you  would  go 
through  a  very  serious  indoctrination,  and  after  that  you  either  go  to 
j  ail  for  a  few  years  or  you  would  be  liquidated. 

So,  they  use  every  psychological  approach,  every  physiological, 
mental  torture  and  physical  torture  and  persuasion,  intimidation,  to 
create  fear,  the  fear  of  reprisals  and  all  that,  to  keep  the  people  so 
worked  up  that  they  will  follow  out  and  think  and  do  as  they  want 
them  to  do. 

Senator  Hruska.  Now,  Father,  we  are  also  interested  in  any  evi- 
dence that  there  might  be  of  either  independence  or  of  control,  as  the 
case  may  be,  as  to  the  Kremlin  itself  in  Red  China .  What  observations 
would  you  have  to  make  in  that  regard  ? 

Father  Tennien.  Oh,  the  Russian  influence  is  very,  very  definite 
and  very  evident. 

Senator  Hruska.  How  direct  is  it  ? 

Father  Tenniek.  Well,  that  is  hard  for  one  on  the  outside  to  ap- 
praise. But  judging  from  their  statements  and  their  praise  of  Russia, 
of  course,  when  I  was  there  it  was  all  Stalin,  they  had  it  in  their  songs, 
in  their  cheers,  in  their  lectures,  that  Stalin  was  the  great  father  and 
the  great  leader  of  communism,  and  he  was  the  one  that  they  were 
imitating.  They  said,  for  instance,  in  their  song.  Si  Ta  Lin  tsan  shi 
shing  lei — Stalin  is  our  leader.  Mao  Tse-tung  tsan  shi  shing  lei — 
Mao  Tse-tung  is  our  No.  2  leader,  and  they  are  the  ones  who  follow  out 
the  party  line,  1  side,  1  thought,  no  contrary  thoughts,  no  contradictions 
at  all  to  that  way  of  thinking. 

Now,  they  are  depending  on  Russia  economically  as  well  as  ideal- 
istically  and  they  are  tied  up  and  they  cannot  very  well  be  torn  away 
from  them,  as  long  as  they  are  under  the  present  condition  of  more 
or  less  being  isolated. 

Senator  Hruska.  Who  became,  in  these  songs,  No.  1  leader  when 
Stalin  was  downgraded  in  Russia  ?  Was  somebody  put  in  his  place, 
or  did  they  leave  the  place  void  ? 

Father  Tennien.  Fortunately,  I  was  in  America  at  that  time.  But 
if  you  will  notice,  they  haven't  gone  along.  Red  China  was  the  first 
one  to  congratulate  Gomulka  in  Poland  when  he  declared  a  kind  of 
independence.  I  think  they  are  following  that  route  of  more  inde- 
pendence from  Russia  than  the  others  did.  And  I  think  they  will  do 
it  because  China,  after  all,  is  so  much  bigger  than  Russia,  both  in  popu- 
lation and  as  far  as  tillable  land  goes,  and  her  power  and  her  influence 
if  it  comes  up  into  its  own,  is  what  the  Russians  fear.  Russia  will 
become  a  satellite  of  China  in  the  future.     That  is  the  way  I  see  it. 


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Senator  Hruska,  Are  they  apt  to  continue  that  course  of  congrat- 
ulating Gomulka  and  all  that  sort  of  thing,  if  that  sort  of  conduct 
reflects  itself  adversely  in  their  economic  relations  with  Russia  ? 

Father  Tbnnien.  Well,  they  are  getting  on  their  feet  a  little  more 
and  a  little  better.  They  are  not  so  dependent  as  they  were.  You  see, 
they  were  almost  bankrupt  economically  and  every  other  way,  espe- 
cially with  the  Korean  war.  That  is  why  they  said  they  had  to  stop 
their  attack  in  Korea  and  make  peace,  because  it  was  ruining  them 
economically  in  China  and  their  demands  on  the  people,  as  I  saw  them 
go  around  to  the  villagers  and  tell  them  how  much  they  had  to  give 
for  the  tanks,  for  the  airplanes,  and  for  the  guns. 

Well,  that  has  more  or  less  passed.  They  have  attained  a  little  bit 
more  stability,  I  would  say,  but  on  the  other  hand,  the  only  outside 
nation  now  they  can  get  machines  from,  the  only  way  they  can  build 
up  and  get  factories  going,  is  from  Russia  and  the  satellite  countries 
of  Russia.  They  can't  get  them  from  us,  which  is  right.  They 
shouldn't  get  them.  And  that  is  why  they  are  so  dependent  on  Russia 
and  they  will  be  for  the  next  5  years. 

Mr.  SouRwiNE.  Father,  would  recognition  of  the  Chinese  Red  gov- 
ernment and  its  admission  to  the  United  Nations  be  an  advantage  or 
a  disadvantage  to  the  free  world  ? 

Father  Tennien.  I  think  it  would  be  a  great  disservice  to  the  free 
world.  I  would  think  it  would  be  a  terribly  fatal  mistake  for  us  to 
recognize  Red  China. 

Mr.  SouRwiNE.  Wliy? 

Father  Tennien.  Because  Red  China  hasn't  shown  any  indication, 
hasn't  given  us  any  indication  of  living  in  the  family  of  nations  as  a 
person  of  our  way  of  thinking.  Without  our  way  of  justice,  without 
our  way  of  trials,  without  our  way  of  freedom,  and  if  we  let  them  in 
with  their  ideals  of  communism  and  a  dictatorship,  then  we  are  letting 
in,  well,  we  are  letting  in  the  bandits  and  robbers  and  everybody  else 
to  live  with  us  and  take  what  they  want  from  us  and  they  can  take 
the  most  precious  thing  we  have,  and  that  is  our  freedom  and 
democracy. 

Senator  Hruska.  You  were  here  when  Mr.  Anslinger  testified,  were 
you  not  ? 

Father  Tennien.  Yes. 

Senator  Hruska.  Wouldn't  you  say  that  one  of  the  evidences  of 
their  lack  of  moral  fiber  or  their  desire  to  become  a  respected  mem- 
ber of  the  family  of  nations  would  be  found,  certainly,  in  their  toler- 
ance, to  say  the  least,  of  the  narcotics  trade  and  export  that  they 
have? 

_  Father  Tennien.  That  is  true,  and  that  is  only  one  small  indica- 
tion. If  you  run  up  against  a  people  without  morality,  without  the 
standards  which  we  have,  without  the  criterion  of  right  and  wrong, 
anything  is  right  with  them  which  is  good  for  the  advancement  of 
communism.  If  you  are  dealing  with  a  nation  like  that,  you  can't 
deal  with  them  and  you  can't  trust  them.  Never  trust  a  Communist 
because  they  live  on  the  policy  of  deceit  and  deception  and  they  work 
by  it.  _  I  always  tried  to  look  at  the  good  side  of  people,  but  after  deal- 
ing with  them  for  2  years  and  seeing  the  broken  promises  and  the  way 
they  twist  the  truth  and  their  deceit,  we  can't  deal  with  them  and 
we  can't  admit  them  to  an  equal  basis  of  discussion  with  us,  and  we 
can't  make  any  agreement  with  them  and  expect  them  to  carry  it  out. 


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Tliey  wouldn't,  tliey  can't.     If  they  do  it,  it  would  be  against  the 
principles  of  communism  which  they  have  now. 

Senator  Jenner.  What  was  their  reaction  to  the  Korean  truce  ? 

Father  Tennien.  Well,  they  just  considered  that  it  was  a  victory 
and  that,  of  course,  they  had  gained  a  victory. 

That  was  the  way  they  publicized  it  and  gave  it  out,  and  in  my  own 
way  of  thinking,  it  was  more  or  less  a  victory  for  us  not  to  go  on  and 
conclude  a  victory  in  our  own  way. 

Senator  Jenner.  Did  they  brag  about  the  fact  that  they  have  violat- 
ed the  terms  of  the  truce,  and  the  United  States  doesn't  do  anything  or 
say  anything  about  it  ? 

Father  Tennien.  No,  they  would  not  approach  it  that  way.  They 
wouldn't  say  they  had  violated  the  terms  of  the  truce  at  all.  They  can 
just  twist  it  so  that  it  appears  that  the^^  are  always  right  and  they 
can  twist  and  turn  truths  and  half  truths  to  make  them  look  very  palat- 
able and  acceptable.  That  is  the  way  they  twist  and  turn  everything. 
They  are  masters  at  propaganda. 

Senator  Jenxer.  We  have  lost  face  as  a  result  of  it  ? 

Father  Tennien.  Of  the  Korean  war  ? 

Senator  Jenner.  Yes. 

Father  Tennien.  Yes,  sir. 

Senator  Jenner.  And  face  is  a  great  thing  with  the  Asiatics. 

Father  Tennien.  It  certainly  is.  A  most  important  thing.  People 
have  committed  suicide  when  they  lost  face,  lost  prestige.  That  is 
important. 

Senator  Hruska.  Have  you  anything  further  ? 

Senator  Jenner.  Nothing  further. 

Senator  Hruska.  Thank  you  very  much,  Father,  for  coming  before 
us. 

(Senator  Hruska  at  this  point  left  the  meeting  and  Senator  Jenner. 
assumed  the  chair.) 

Senator  Jenner  (presiding) .  Call  the  next  witness.  ; 

Mr.  Sourwine.  Mr.  John  C.  Caldwell. 

Senator  Jenner.  Will  you  stand  and  raise  your  right  hand,  please? 

Do  you  solemnly  swear  that  the  testimony  you  are  about  to  give  will 
be  the  truth,  the  whole  truth  and  nothing  but  the  truth,  so  help  you 
God? 

Mr.  Caldwell.  I  do. 

Senator  Jenner.  Proceed,  Mr.  Sourwine,  with  the  questioning  of 
Mr.  Caldwell. 

TESTIMONY  OF  JOHN  C.  CALDWELL 

Mr.  Sourwine.  Mr.  Caldwell,  you  were  born  in  China  ? 

Mr.  Caldwell.  That  is  correct. 

Mr.  Sourwine.  Your  home  is  in  Nashville,  Tenn.  ? 

Mr.  Caldwell.  That  is  correct. 

Mr.  Sourwine.  You  are  a  former  Director  of  the  United  States 
Information  Service? 

Mr.  Caldwell.  In  China. 

Mr.  Sourwine.  In  China.     You  are  a  writer  and  a  lecturer? 

Mr.  Caldwell.  That  is  right. 

Mr.  Sourwine.  You  testified  before  this  committee  on  a  prior  occa- 
sion, June  15, 1954. 


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Mr.  Caldwell.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  SouKWiNE.  You  make  repeated  trips  to  China  ? 

Mr.  Caldwell.  Yes.    Not  to  the  mainland  of  China,  but  to  the 

Mr.  SouEWiNE.  Far  East  ? 

Mr.  Caldwell.  All  of  the  Far  East. 

Mr.  SouKwiNE.  You  have  just  returned  from  such  a  trip  ? 

Mr.  Caldwell.  Tlie  last  week  in  November. 

Mr.  SouRWiNE.  You  were  at  one  time  head  of  the  China  Branch  of 
the  United  States  Information  Service  ? 

Mr.  Caldwell.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Sotjrwine.  That  was  for  a  year  and  a  half. 

Mr.  Caldwell.  Yes. 

Mr.  Sourwine.  You  had  charge  of  the  whole  China  program  for 
9  months  ? 

Mr.  Caldwell.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  SouRAViNE.  And  all  Far  East  operations  for  9  months. 

Mr.  Caldwell.  Yes,  sir,  approximately. 

Mr.  Sourwine.  Mr.  Caldwell,  in  your  prior  appearance  before  this 
committee  you  told  us  about  a  study  of  Communist  techniques  and 
propaganda  lines  which  were  suppressed  by  USIA,  because  it  might 
cause  friction  between  the  United  States  and  the  Union  of  Soviet 
Socialist  Republics.    What  became  of  that  study  ? 

Mr.  Caldwell.  I  would  like  to  know  myself  where  it  is.  I  have 
never  seen  it  since. 

Mr.  SouR^viNE.  Is  it  still  suppressed,  as  far  as  you  know  ? 

Mr.  Caldwell.  As  far  as  I  know. 

Senator  Jenner.  Who  did  you  submit  it  to  ? 

Mr.  Caldwell.  It  was  submitted  to  the  Department  of  State.  That 
was  in  1946. 

Mr.  Sourwine.  Mr.  Caldwell,  when  you  appeared  before  us  in  1954, 
you  told  us  the  Communist  propaganda  pattern  in  Eastern  Asia  had 
2  basic  objectives;  1,  to  create  in  Asiatics  the  idea  that  American 
soldiers,  sailors,  airmen,  and  marines  were  brutal,  corrupt,  and  im- 
moral ;  and  secondly,  to  develop  among  Americans  the  idea  that  our 
logical  allies  in  Asia,  that  is,  the  Chiangs  and  the  Rhees,  were  hope- 
lessly corrupt  and  dictatorial  and  without  ability  to  command  the 
respect  of  their  peoples. 

Is  that  line  still  being  followed  ? 

Mr.  Caldwell.  Yes,  but  I  would  say  there  are  very  important  addi- 
tions to  the  line  now. 

Mr.  Sourwine.  Would  you  tell  us  about  them  ? 

Mr.  Caldwell.  Yes.  Particularly  in  Southeast  Asia,  which  is  now 
the  main  target  of  the  Conununist  propaganda  machine,  there  is  an 
effort  not  only  to  discredit  Nationalist  China,  but  to  completely  keep 
out  any  information  whatsoever  about  Nationalist  China. 

There  is  an  immense  campaign  to  penetrate  schools  which  has  been 
very  successful,  to  control  newspapers  and  book  stores,  and  this  cam- 
paign has,  I  think,  two  immediate  objectives. 

One,  it  is  a  rather  soft  campaign.  It  seeks  to  create  an  impression 
of  a  very  peaceful  China  which  has  made  tremendous  material  ad- 
vances so  that  the  way  into  the  U.  N.  can  be  eased  and,  of  course,  the 
long-range  aim  is  obviously  control  of  Southeast  Asia  with  its  tre- 
mendous natural  and  human  resources. 


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Mr.  SouRwiNE.  Mr.  Caldwell,  you  predicted  in  1954,  intensified  Eed 
Chinese  propaganda  in  the  Philippines.  Has  your  prediction  come 
true? 

Mr.  Caldwell.  For  only  a  short  time,  fortunately,  because  the  new 
President  of  the  Philippines  has  gone  further  than  any  other  Asiatic 
leader,  with  the  exception  of  Diem  in  Vietnam,  to  control  communism, 
so  that  the  focus  has  now  changed,  particularly  directed  against  the 
newly  independent  states  that  were  once  under  French  Dominion. 
That  is,  Cambodia  and  Laos,  toward  Thailand,  toward  all  the  rest  of 
Southeast  Asia  with,  right  now,  a  particularly  virulent  campaign 
against  North  Borneo  which  is  a  weak  country  but  a  very  rich  British 
colony. 

Mr.  SoTJRWiNE.  You  also  predicted,  in  1954,  a  campaign  headed 
from  Red  China  to  magnify  the  failings  of  French  Colonialist  admin- 
istration in  Indochina. 

Did  that  come  about  ? 

Mr.  Cald^vell.  Yes ;  there  were  failings  which  I  think  we  must  ad- 
mit, but  the  Communists  have  verj^  clearly  used  this  legacy  of  colonial- 
ism in  all  of  Southeast  Asia.  It  is  something  they  use  constantly  in 
their  effort  to  create  neutralism,  first,  and  then  outright  interest  in 
the  Communist  form. 

Senator  Jenner.  I  would  be  interested  in  your  observations  on 
Indochina  at  the  present  moment.  Have  you  been  reading  about  it 
in  the  last  few  days  ?    Would  you  give  us  your  version  ? 

Mr.  Caldwell.  I  think  Indonesia  is  one  of  the  most  critical  places 
now,  and  there,  as  in  many  places  throughout  Southeast  Asia,  the  main 
focus  of  attack  has  been  the  overseas  Chinese  community.  There  are 
about  3  million  Chinese  who  live  in  Indonesia.  The  schools  of  In- 
donesia, among  which  there  are  nearly  400  Chinese  schools,  are  almost 
completely  now  under  Communist  control. 

There  are  literally  hundreds  of  book  stores  which  sell  the  very  fancy 
Communist  publications,  some  of  which  I  have  brought  along. 

The  press  of  Indonesia,  as  far  as  the  Chinese  are  concerned,  is  now 
entirely  under  Communist  domination,  and  I  think  those  factors,  since 
the  Chinese  control  economic  life,  have  a  particular  part  to  play  in 
what  is  happening  in  Indonesia  now,  the  switch  the  internal  troubles. 

Mr.  SouRwiNE.  Mr.  Caldwell,  you  told  us  in  1954  that  State  De- 
partment files  were,  to  use  your  words : 

Stacked  today  with  anti-Chiang,  anti-Nationalist  material — 

and  that — 

The  same  material  prevails  with  respect  to  Syngman  Rhee. 

You  added  this,  quoting  you — 

Until  several  years  have  passed,  during  which  we  have  objective  anti-Com- 
munist reporting,  it  will  be  difficult  to  expect  decisions  and  actions  favorable  to 
our  friends  in  Asia. 

I  will  ask  you,  has  that  situation  changed,  and  if  so,  to  what  degree 
so  far  as  you  know  ? 

^  Mr.  Caldwell.  I  think  it  has  improved  to  some  extent,  but  very 
significant  stories,  for  instance,  such  as  Mr.  Anslinger  told,  of  the  fact 
that  the  Nationalists  were  able  to  stamp  out  the  opium  business,  which 
I  know  myself,  having  lived  there  during  that  period,  and  that  the 
Chinese  Communists  have  increased  it  many  times ;  things  of  that  type 


3636       SCOPE    OF    SOVIET    ACTIVITY    IN    THE    UNITED    STATES 

never  get  to  the  people  of  Asia  who  should  hear  them.  So,  there  is  still, 
I  am  afraid,  too  much  bias,  perhaps  a  legacy  of  the  past. 

It  is  not  only  in  the  State  Department,  but  you  find  it  among  editors 
throughout  the  country,  a  bitterness  against  the  Nationalist  Govern- 
ment and  it  is  often  not  based  on  any  facts. 

Mr.  SouRWiNE.  Now,  in  that  connection,  you  told  us  in  1954  that 
you  believed  that  75  percent  of  the  editors,  newspaper  and  magazine, 
in  America  were  so  prejudiced  against  Chiang  Kai-shek  and  Syngman 
Rhee  as  individuals,  that  honest  coverage  of  free  Asia  was  almost 
impossible. 

Do  you  still  hold  to  that  belief  ? 

j\Ir.  Caldwell.  I  tliink  there  has  been  some  improvement.  If  I 
were  to  apply  a  figure  to  it,  I  would  say  that  perhaps  50  percent  are 
still  so  prejudiced  that  it  is  very  difficult  to  get  the  stories,  for  in- 
stance, of  the  tremendous  progress  of  free  China.  You  dont  see  too 
many  accounts  of  that  in  our  magazines  and  newspapers. 

Mr.  SouRwiNE.  What  can  you  tell  us  about  the  Communist  Chinese 
press  ?    To  what  extent  is  that  free  ?    To  what  extent  is  that  controlled  ? 

JNIr.  Caldwell.  Well,  all  of  the  newspapers  in  Communist  China  are 
actually  party  organs.  There  are  now  some  10,000  newspapers,  count- 
ing those  in  small  districts.  They  are  all  completely  party  organs, 
and  publishing  is  operated  entirely  by  the  party. 

A  recent  Nationalist  intelligence  report  that  I  saw  in  Hong  Kong 
a  few  months  ago  indicates  that  there  are  a  total  of  3,600,000  Com- 
munist Party  workers  directly  in  information  media  alone.  That 
is,  radio,  publications,  and  newspapers. 

Mr.  SouRWiNE.  Would  you  say  that  there  is  a  profession  of  journal- 
ism in  Red  China  today  ? 

Mr.  Caldwell.  No,  sir,  I  would  not. 

Mr.  SouRwiNE.  Now,  how  about  journalism  in  the  rest  of  Asia  ?  To 
what  extent  is  that  subverted  or  controlled? 

Mr.  Caldwell.  During  the  past  12  to  18  months  there  have  been 
three  primary  Red  campaigns.  One,  to  control  the  press  of  South- 
east Asia.  Two,  to  open  vast  numbers  of  book  stores  with  as  many  as 
200  and  300  titles  on  Communist  China  in  each  store.  Three,  to  pene- 
trate and  control  the  one-thousand-nine-hundred-odd  Chinese  schools 
from  Hong  Kong  southward. 

Now,  to  show  you  how  this  campaign  has  succeeded,  during  the  last 
possibly  12  months,  but  let's  say  18  months,  of  the  35  major  newspapers 
of  Soutlieast  Asia,  27  have  become  either  pro-Communist  completely 
or  neutralist.  That  has,  as  I  said,  mostly  been  accomplished  in  1  year 
and  it  has  been  accomplished  with  a  massive  bribery  campaigii. 
I  have  the  exact  figures  on  many  newspapers,  the  exact  amount  paid 
to  the  editor  as  a  downpayment  to  change  his  editorial  line,  the 
amount  he  gets  each  month  or  sometimes  it  may  be  that  the  news- 
paper is  struggling  and  having  financial  difficulties  and  there  are  free 
gifts  of  newsprint. 

Now,  both  our  intelligence  and  Nationalist  intelligence  indicate 
that  in  1956,  $3  million  United  States  was  spent  on  newspaper 
bribery  alone,  and  it  is  through  that,  coupled  with  a  sort  of  veiled 
threat.  I  have  actually  talked  to  editors  who  have  been  approached 
and  along  with  the  offer  of  money  comes  this  little  clincher.  They 
say,  and  if  you  will  play  ball  with  us,  we  will  take  care  of  you  when 
we  take  over  here. 


SCOPE    OF    SOVIET   ACTIVITY    IN    THE    UNITED    STATES      3637 

So,  it  is  a  promise  of  security  plus  money  that  has  bought  the 
press  of  Soutlieast  Asia. 

Mr.  SouRwiNE,  You  say  $3  million  United  States.  Are  you  using 
United  States  dollars  as  a  standard  or  do  you  actually  mean  that 
United  States  dollars  were  used  in  this  bribery  ? 

Mr.  Caldwell.  No;  I  know  that  United  States  dollars  are  used, 
but  I  was  using  that  mostly  as  a  round  figure  of  the  total  amount  in 
our  currency. 

Mr.  SouRWiNE.  The  bribery  is  not,  so  far  as  you  know,  wholly  in 
United  States  dollars. 

Mr.  Caldwell.  No,  but  in  a  place  like  Hong  Kong,  which  is  a  free- 
money  market,  the  United  States  dollar  is  usually  quite  stable.  The 
Hong  Kong  dollar  is  slipping,  particularly  in  the  last  6  months. 

Mr.  SouRwiNE.  Where  does  tliat  money  come  from  ? 

Mr.  Caldwell.  It  is  my  guess  that  quite  a  bit  of  it  comes  from  the 
opium  business.  The  Eeds  have  tried  something  else  new,  of  late.  In 
Thailand,  _  with  Communist  money,  they  have  developed  the  dirty 
movie  capital  of  the  world  now,  with  some  4,000  titles  produced  last 
year  alone. 

Now,  these  are  sent  to  Formosa,  to  Hong  Kong,  to  Japan.  They  are 
sold  for  dollars.  They  have  the  same  sort  of  dual  purpose  that  opium 
serves,  of  bringing  in  dollars  as  well  as  corrupting  morals. 

One  little  sidelight.  It  may  mean  absolutely  nothing.  Through 
my  knowledge  of  Chinese,  I  was  able  to  get  into  one  of  these  studios  in 
Bangkok,  and  I  noted  with  great  interest  that  all  of  the  equipment 
was  the  latest  model  Russian  equipment,  that  is,  projectors  and 
cameras  of  varieties  I  had  never  seen  before. 

Mr.  Sourwine.  Yv^hat  other  information  can  you  give  us  about  Red 
China's  propaganda  machinery  ? 

Mr.  Caldwell.  I  would  like  to  go  just  a  little  bit,  if  I  may,  into  their 
publications.  Now,  I  have  brought  a  few  typical  ones  here  today. 
These  happened  to  be  in  English,  but  others  are  published  in  13  differ- 
ent languages. 

They  start  with  simple  cartoon  books  for  the  illiterate.  Then  there 
will  be  little  storybooks  like  this,  up  to  the  very  fancy,  four-color  jobs. 
_  Now,  the  effort  in  these  publications  is,  well,  what  I  would  call  a  soft 
line.  It  attempts  to  create  interest  in  Red  China,  a  picture  of  tremen- 
dous progress,  a  country  that  has  no  problems. 

Now,  their  anti-American  line  has  changed  considerably.  They 
don't  ask  a  newspaper,  for  instance,  any  longer  to  actually  attack 
America.  Instead,  they  distribute  Confidential  magazine,  and  there 
is  another  one  called  Uncensored. 

Now,  these  magazines — I  assume  none  of  you  gentlemen  have  read 
them  regularly ;  I  don't,  but  I  have  looked  at  them  and  I  know  that 
they  deal  in  divorce,  sex,  dope,  all  of  the  worst  in  America,  and  these 
stories  are  taken  verbatim  from  Confidential  and  used  as  feature  ma- 
terial in  Bangkok,  in  Hong  Kong,  in  Phnom  Penh,  which  is  the  capital 
of  Cambodia. 

So,  many  people  are  getting  their  view  of  America  today  via  Con- 
fidential magazine. 

Mr.  Sourwine.  Does  that  conclude  the  additional  material  you  can 
give  us  about  propaganda  ? 

Mr.  Caldwell.  No;  I  think  the  penetration  of  the  schools  is  al«r> 
tremendously  important.    The  Chinese  in  some  places  are  even  the 


3638       SCOPE    OF    SOVIET   ACTIVITY    IN    THE    UNITED    STATES 

majority  in  southeast  Asia.  For  instance,  in  Singapore  they  make 
up  80  percent  of  the  population,  and,  beginning  many  years  ago,  they 
founded  their  own  schools. 

Now,  the  Communists  have  penetrated  these  schools.  In  Singapore 
they  are  almost  entirely  in  charge  now.  In  Thailand  perhaps  one- 
third  of  the  schools  are  under  Communist  discipline. 

They  utilize  the  students  to  raise  money.  For  instance,  in  Singa- 
pore they  raise  money  for  strikes  through  collecting  dues  from  the 
Communist  students.  They  have  been  able,  on  several  occasions,  to 
completely  tie  up  Singapore. 

Along  with  this  effort  to  penetrate  and  control  all  the  schools  in 
southeast  Asia,  there  is  a  tremendous  campaign  to  get  young  south- 
east Asians  to  go  to  Red  China  to  study.  Now,  to  do  that  they  use 
these  publications,  magazines,  very  well-done  movies.  They  promise 
free  education.  They  promise  the  school  of  the  person's  choice  and 
unlimited  job  opportunities  after  the  student  is  finished. 

Since  1950,_  somewhere  between  40,000  and  50,000  overseas  students 
have  been  enticed  to  Red  China  through  this  campaign. 

Mr.  SouuwiNE.  Speaking  of  students,  sir,  what  steps  are  being  taken 
inside  Red  China  to  indoctrinate  the  youth  of  the  country  with  com- 
munism ? 

Mr.  Caldwell,.  Well,  it  is  an  indoctrination  program  from  the  time 
the  child  is  able  to  understand  anything.  During  October  and  No- 
vember I  interviewed  a  number  of  student  escapees  from  China  to  try 
to  get  from  them  a  blow-by-blow  account  of  Communist  educational 
methods.  A  tremendous  part  of  the  curriculum  is  taken  by  with  com- 
pletely political  discussions.  At  least  once  every  week,  and  sometimes 
2  or  3  times,  there  is  held  what  the  students  in  their  lingo  call  the 
"big  class." 

Now,  the  big  class  is  when  an  eavesdropper  has  been  able  to  find  some 
student  saying  something  that  was  suspect.  He  is  brought  before  the 
whole  school  body  and,  as  Father  Tennien  explained,  all  of  his  faults, 
his  background,  are  brought  out,  and  sometimes  the  student  body  is 
just  driven  into  a  state  of  hysteria  so  that  there  is  actually  phj^sical 
beating  of  the  person  who  is  the  center  of  the  big  class. 

But  it  is  a  program  of  indoctrination  from  beginning  to  end. 

Mr.  SoTJRWiNE.  Does  that  program  involve  efforts  to  make  the 
youths  of  China  inform  on  their  friends  and  relatives  ? 

Mr.  Caldwell.  That  is  a  very  definite  part.  I  talked  to  one  young 
man,  for  instance,  who  was  talking  to  a  friend  of  his  one  night  in 
school  and  the  friend  admitted,  or  just  said  in  conversation,  that  he 
had  served  once  as  an  interpreter  during  the  war  with  a  United  States 
Army  unit  since  he  spoke  very  good  English.  Another  friend  over- 
heard. There  was  a  big  class  called  the  next  day  and  this  boy  simply 
disappeared.  So,  telling  tales  is  an  integral  part  of  the  system  of 
maintaining  discipline  over  the  students. 

Mr.  Sourwine.  To  what  extent  are  they  successful  in  getting  chil- 
dren to  inform  on  their  parents  in  contradiction  to  the  age-old  close- 
ness of  the  Chinese  family  ? 

Mr.  Caldwell.  I  think  in  the  first  few  years  of  Communist  rule  they 
were  very  successful,  but  then  in  the  last  few  years  I  have  noted,  in 
talking  to  escapees,  what  I  think  is  a  tide  of  revulsion  setting  in.  I 
think  that  is  indicated  by  recent  stories  that  have  come  out  of  Red 


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China,  renewed  demands  that  everyone  put  the  state  above  any  family 
relationsliips. 

I  think  there  are  good  things  that  we  can  see  in  Red  China  today. 
That  is  one  of  them.  In  talking  to  the  escapees,  I  find  there  is  grow- 
ing unrest  among  the  young  people.  Just  as  in  Hungary,  it  was  the 
college  students  and  even  the  high-school  students  who  spearheaded 
the  revolt,  so,  in  China,  the  young  people  are  fighting  back  to  the  ex- 
tent that  there  are  a  great  number  of,  literally  translated,  roaming 
hard-labor  corps,  entirely  made  up  of  high-school  students  who  have 
been  recalcitrants,  have  fought  back  a  little  bit. 

I  interviewed  one  boy  who  was  in  such  a  camp  in  which  there  were 
6,000  high-school  students  all  put  at  hard  labor  because  they  have  not 
knuckled  down  sufficiently  to  the  regime.  That  is,  I  think,  a  rather 
hopeful  sign. 

Mr.  SouRwiNE.  Turning  to  another  subject,  what  can  you  tell  us, 
Mr.  Caldwell,  about  the  coexistence  policy  advocated  bv  Communist 
China? 

Mr.  Caldwell.  That,  of  course,  is  a  crucial  part  of  their  campaign, 
particularly  with  the  new  nations,  Indonesia,  Burma,  Cambodia,  and 
Laos.  They  try  hard  to  show  through  their  propaganda  and  publi- 
cations that  they  mean  no  harm  and  that  the  best  interests  of  these 
new  nations  will  be  served  if  they  will  maintain  diplomatic  relations 
with  the  Chinese  Reds. 

In  Cambodia  they  have  recently  offered,  and  it  has  been  accepted, 
a  $22  million  economic-aid  campaign  to  show  their  good  will,  so  that 
they  are  directly  competing  with  us  in  that  country,  offering  rela- 
tively the  same  number  of  dollars  that  we  give  to  that  same  nation. 
The  coexistence  and  neutrality,  I  would  say,  are  very  important 
themselves  at  the  present  time. 

Mr.  SouRwiNE.  Does  the  stress  on  that  theme  of  coexistence  indi- 
cate an  abandonment  by  Red  China  of  its  ambitions  to  rule  all  Asia  ? 
Mr.  Caldmt^ll.  No  ;  I  don't  think  it  does  at  all.  I  think  that  they 
are  succeeding  through  subversion.  They  don't  need,  right  now,  to 
think  in  terms  of  any  military  action.  I  would  doubt  that  there  will 
be  any  military  action,  because  they  are  doing  extremely  well  through 
this  vast  campaign  of  subversion  and  propaganda. 

Mr.  SoTJRwiNE.  Are  you  familiar,  sir,  with  the  pressures  originat- 
ing in  Communist  China  for  repatriation  of  Chinese  students  and 
Chnese  residents  in  general  who  are  now  outside  mainland  China  ? 

Mr.  Caldwell.  Yes.  That  ties  in,  of  course,  with  the  campaign 
to  get  the  overseas  Chinese  students  all  through  southeast  Asia  to 
come  back.  When  a  student  does  go  to  Red  China,  a  great  deal  of 
pressure  is  put  upon  him  to  persuade  his  parents  to  come  back,  and 
the  interesting  thing  is  that  this  pressure  is  only  given  when  the 
parents  are  wealthy.  They  are  most  interested  in  getting  wealthy 
overseas  Chinese  back  into  China. 

Mr.  SouRwiNE.  What  can  you  tell  us,  Mr.  Caldwell,  about  Red 
Chinese  efforts  to  use  the  10  million  Chinese  now  living  in  southeast 
Asia  as  a  sort  of  huge  fifth  column  ? 

Mr.  Caldwell.  I  think  that  is  their  major  effort.  These  Chinese 
actually  number  now — the  latest  census,  I  believe,  is  nearly  14  million 
because  there  have  been  a  great  many  escapees  from  China  and  their 
major  campaign  is  directed  against  the  Chinese  newspapers,  the 
Chinese  schools,  against  the  Chinese  banks,  because  these  Chinese  con- 
trol the  economic  life  of  the  region. 


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Now,  in  Rangoon,  Burma,  for  instance,  they  gained  control  of  the 
three  main  Chinese  banks.  Then  they  used  that  as  a  lever  to  force 
Chinese  businessmen  to  send  their  children  to  a  Chinese  school. 
Chinese  are  speculators.  They  borrow  frequently  on  a  short-term 
basis.  If  a  businessman  comes  in  to  try  to  borrow  money  from  one 
of  these  banks,  he  is  told  he  can't  have  his  money  unless  he  is  willing 
to  transfer  his  children  from  a  non-Communist  to  a  Communist 
dominated  school.  It  is  rather  a  striking  double  play  they  use  in  com- 
bining banking  and  education. 

Mr.  SouRwiNE.  Can  you  tell  us  about  any  other  trouble  spots  caused 
by  Communist  agitators  in  southeast  Asia  ? 

Mr.  Caldwell.  The  most  successful  trouble  spot  has  been,  of  course, 
Singapore.  I  think  right  now  the  main  pressure  is  going  to  be  against 
the  three  Buddhist  nations,  that  is.  Cambodia,  Thailand  and  Laos  It 
is  my  own  opinion  that  Cambodia  is  going  to  be  the  focus  of  an  attack 
because  it  is  small.  It  is  new  and  weak.  Thailand  is  a  much  stronger 
country,  but  if  they  can  gain  control  of  Cambodia,  they  will  have  a 
strong  foothold  to  put  pressure  against  the  other  two  Buddhist  nations. 

In  Cambodia  they  now  control  4  of  the  5  Chinese  newspapers.  They 
control  one-half  of  the  Chinese  schools.  They  have  this  $22  million  aid 
program  administered  b}^  a  total  of  120  technicians  who  began  arriv- 
ing in  November  and  who  are  all  there  now. 

Mr.  SormwixE.  What  information  can  you  give  us  about  Red 
Chinese  activity  in  Malaya  and  Indonesia  ? 

Mr.  Caldwell.  It  is  the  same  pattern  everywhere.  In  Malaya  it 
has  been  very  successful.  It  is  hard  to  evaluate  where  there  has  been 
more  success.  I  would  say  that  probably  Indonesia  and  Malaya  have 
both  been  very  well  penetrated  as  far  as  the  overseas  Chinese  are  con- 
cerned. 

One  way  you  can  judge  it  is  by  the  number  of  students  who  are  going 
to  Red  China  from  these  countries.  Now,  the  number  has  dropped  in 
the  last  2  years,  but  in  1956,  1,200  went  from  Indonesia,  750  from 
Malaya,  by  far  the  largest  than  from  any  other  country  in  southeast 
Asia, 

Mr.  SouRwiXE.  The  Chinese,  that  is,  the  people  of  Chinese  origin,  or 
the  Chinese  race,  pretty  largely  control  business  life  in  Malaya  and 
Indonesia,  don't  they? 

Mr.  Caldwell.  Yes,  and  it  is  true  in  Thailand.  It  is  true  in  Cam- 
bodia. They  control  the  banks,  the  newspapers,  publications,  movies, 
the  rice  industry.  They  are  the  middlemen  also  in  many  other  busi- 
nesses, 

Mr,  Sourwine.  The  middlemen  ? 

Mr.  Caldwell.  Middlemen. 

Senator  Jenner.  Merchants. 

Mr,  Caldwell.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr,  Sourwine,  To  what  extent  are  those  Chinese  businessmen  lined 
up  with  communism,  do  you  know  ? 

Mr,  Caldwell,  The  further  away  you  get  from  Communist  China, 
the  larger  proportion  of  the  Chinese  are  pro- Communist,  That  is 
simply  because  they  are  further  away  and  they  don't  have  access  to  in- 
formation, actual  facts  about  Red  China, 

Hong  Kong,  I  would  say,  just  using  a  round  figure,  is  probably  70 
percent  anti-Communist,  Singapore,  however,  is  70  percent  pro- 
Communist. 


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Mr.  SouRWiNE.  That  is  amone;  the  Chinese  colony. 

Mr.  Caldwell.  Among  the  Chinese  colony.  And  again  that  in  part 
depends  on  how  thoroughly  they  have  controlled  the  press. 

Now,  in  Singapore,  they  have  been  in  control  of  press  and  education 
for  several  years.  But  in  Hong  Kong  not  only  do  they  get  news  of 
Red  China  right  across  the  border,  also  they  have  had  a  somewhat 
more  difficult  time  buying  off  the  press. 

Mr.  SouRWiNE.  Mr.  Caldwell,  is  sheer  fear  of  Communist  China  a 
major  factor  in  the  neutrality  of  India  and  Burma  and  Indonesia? 

Mr.  Caldwell.  I  think  that  is  a  very  correct  statement.  As  Father 
Tennien  pointed  out,  Korea  was  not  a  victory  for  the  West.  There 
has  been  to  the  average  person  of  southeast  Asia  a  succession  of  re- 
treats and  there  is  fear  that  the  Communists  are  going  to  win. 

I,  myself,  do  not  believe  in  my  heart  most  of  these  people  are  pro- 
Communist,  but  they  are  trying  to  make  a  move  which  will  keep  them 
safe,  their  families  safe,  and  they  hope  their  businesses  intact. 

Mr.  Sourwixe.  Mr.  Caldwell,  you  said  earlier  in  response  to  a  ques- 
tion that  you  did  not  feel  that  Communist  China's  ambition  to  control 
all  Asia  had  been  abandoned,  l^^lat  evidence  is  there  of  that  ambi- 
tion? 

Mr.  Caldwell.  For  economic  reasons  it  is  tremendously  important. 
We  know  that.  For  instance,  Thailand  has  a  surplus  of  300,000  tons 
of  rice  which  they  will  not  sell  to  Red  China,  but  which  they  desper- 
ately need.  And  also,  throughout  their  internal  propaganda  you  hear 
phrases  that  sound  strikingly  like  Japan's  old  "coprosperity  sphere." 

They  are  offering  to  become  the  big  brothers  of  all  these  struggling 
nations.  They  offer  it  particularly,  I  think,  now,  in  the  campaign 
against  the  three  little  Buddhist  nations. 

Mr.  Sourwine.  Mr.  Caldwell,  do  you  know  anything  about  the 
activities  of  Red  Chinese  agents  outside  China  ? 

Mr.  Caldwell.  Well,  of  course,  what  I  have  been  telling  you  deals 
with  activities  all  through  southeast  Asia.  Hong  Kong  has  become 
pretty  much  their  center.  It  is  the  center  from  which  these  publica- 
tions are  shipped  out,  incidentally,  to  American  schools,  in  large  num- 
bers. It  is  the  center  into  which  the  bribery  money  goes  and  is  dis- 
bursed. 

From  Hong  Kong,  which  has  direct  shipping  connections  with 
Japan  and  Korea,  as  well  as  southeast  Asia,  the  agents  go  to  the  rest 
of  the  area.  It  is  the  focal  point,  I  think,  of  their  attack,  or  the  cam- 
paign headquarters  today. 

Mr.  Sourwixe.  What  can  you  tell  us  about  the  activities  of  Red 
Chinese  agents  in  South  Korea  ? 

Mr.  Caldwell.  I  haven't  been  in  South  Korea  for  a  year  and  the 
biggest  activity  that  I  heard  about  at  that  time  was  one  mentioned  by 
Mr.  Anslinger  and  that  is  the  penetration  of  dope  peddlers,  large  num- 
bers of  them.  Many  of  them  are  caught,  but  obviously,  many  are  not 
caught, 

Mr.  Sourwixe.  Are  you  telling  us  that  the  dope  peddlers  in  South 
Korea  are  Communists,  that  it  is  a  Communist  activity  ? 

Mr.  Caldwell.  Oh,  yes,  sir ;  I  am  certain  of  that. 

Mr.  Sour^vixe.  How  about  activities  of  Red  Chinese  agents  in  For- 
mosa, is  there  any  ? 

Mr.  Caldwell.  Practically  none.  Formosa  is  probably  as  free  of 
Communist  activity  as  any  nation  in  the  world  and  it  is  kept  under 


3642       SCOPE    OF    SOVIET    ACTIVITY    IN    THE    UNITED    STATES 

control.  The  people  are  sold  enough  on  their  Government  so  that  a 
rather  unusual  thing  happened  in  October  when  pro-Communist 
Chinese  from  southeast  Asia,  for  the  first  time,  were  openly  invited  to 
come  there  as  a  propaganda  move  to  let  them  see  for  themselves  the  ad- 
vancement that  had  been  made  in  free  China. 

Mr.  SouRwiNE.  To  what  extent  is  that  invitation  being  accepted,  do 
you  know  ? 

Mr,  Caldavell.  I  know  of  several.  I  know  of  one  Singapore  editor 
that  came  and,  I  believe,  there  were  several  from  Hong  Kong  and 
Cambodia  that  accepted  the  invitation,  and  free  China  has  relaxed 
very  greatly  its  visa  requirements  during  the  last  few  months  because 
they  feel  considerable  strength.  They  have  no  fear  that  these  people 
can  cause  trouble.  In  fact,  they  think  that  they  can  very  easily  be  con- 
vinced of  the  error  of  their  ways. 

Mr.  SouRwiNE.  Mr.  Caldwell,  do  Eed  Chinese  imperialistic  aims 
extend  outside  Asia? 

Mr.  Caldwell.  I  think  Asia  is  their  assigned  sphere  of  influence, 
but  because  the  Chinese  are  not  white,  I  think  they  are  being  used 
more  and  more  among  other  nonwhite  peoples.  They  made,  as  you 
know,  an  offer  of  volunteers  to  Egypt.  They  have  been  sending  trade 
missions  all  through  the  Middle  East  in  countries  that  do  not  recog- 
nize Nationalist  China,  and  this  is  an  opinion  only,  but  I  believe  the 
Chinese  will  more  and  more  be  used  as  agents  in  nonwhite  parts  of 
the  world. 

Mr.  SouRWiNE.  Do  you  include  Africa  ? 

Mr.  Caldwell.  Yes;  I  certainly  do.     North  Africa,  particularly. 

Mr.  SouRWiNE.  Do  you  have  any  specific  knowledge  of  their 
reasons  ? 

Mr.  Caldwell.  I  have  knowledge  of  activities  in  Egypt,  which  has 
recognized  Eed  China,  which  has  received  cultural  delegations  and 
trade  delegations. 

Mr.  SouRwiNE.  Do  you  have  knowledge  of  any  Red  Chinese  activity 
in  Africa? 

Mr.  Caldwell.  Nothing  beyond  Egypt. 

Mr.  Sourwine.  Mr.  Caldwell,  we  had  one  witness  this  morning 
who  testified  concerning  the  effect  of  admitting  Communist  China  to 

•       •  • 

the  United  Nations.    We  would  like  to  have  your  opinion  on  it. 

INIr.  Caldwell.  I  would  like  to  confine  my  answer  to  the  effect  on 
southeast  Asia  where  there  is  this  tremendous  struggle  now  to  keep 
the  nations  free.  There  must  be  a  China  for  the  overseas  Chinese  to 
look  to.  If  Red  China  is  admitted,  we  will  have,  in  fact,  this  two- 
China  idea,  and  I  am  afraid  there  would  be  no  chance  whatsoever 
then  to  keep  the  nations  of  southeast  Asia  free.  It  could  be  a  tragedy 
that  could  lose  us  an  area  that  has  something  like  180  million 
population. 

Mr.  Sourwine.  How  would  there  be  two  Chinas  ?  If  Red  China  is 
admitted  to  the  United  Nations,  doesn't  that  necessarily  mean  that 
the  Nationalist  Government  will  go  out? 

Mr.  Caldwell.  The  Nationalist  Government  would  go  out,  so  I 
have  been  told  by  President  Chiang,  himself,  but  it  is  an  idea  that 
has  been  expressed  by  several  public  leaders  in  America  of  admitting 
Red  China  and,  at  the  same  time,  maintaining  some  relations  with 
free  China  to  establish,  as  far  as  we  are  concerned,  two  Chinas. 


SCOPE    OF    SOVIET    ACTIVITY    EST    THE    UNITED    STATES      3643 

Now,  althoiigli  we  might  not  recognize  Red  China,  if  she  is  in  the 
U.  N.,  Avith  her  representatives  here  in  America,  to  many  people 
throughout  Asia  it  would  be  tantamount  to  recognition  on  our  part. 

Mr.  SouRwiNE.  Well,  people  talk  about  the  two-China  policy,  but 
isn't  that  in  itself  propaganda?  I  mean  this.  Instead  of  simply 
bringing  Red  China  into  the  U.  N.,  and  leaving  Nationalist  China 
there,  which  would  be  a  true  two-China  policy 

Mr.  Caldwell.  Yes. 

Mr.  SoTJEWiNE.  Isn't  all  of  the  drive  based  on  the  representation, 
the  admission  angle,  the  question  of  who  is  China  ? 

Mr.  Caldwell.  Yes. 

Mr.  SoURWiNE.  So  that  if  Mao  Tse-tung's  government  is  allowed  in, 
Chiang's  government  is  forced  out  at  one  and  the  same  time. 

Mr.  Caldwell.  That  is  correct. 

Mr.  Sourwine.  So  it  is  not  really  a  two-China  policy.  It  is  a  one- 
China  policy  at  the  expense  of  Nationalist  China. 

Mr.  Caldwell.  It  is  actually  eliminating  free  China.  Thailand, 
for  instance,  at  the  present  time  maintains  diplomatic  relations  with 
free  China,  not  Red.  I  am  sure  if  Red  China  was  admitted  to  the 
United  Nations  that  would  be  reversed.  Thailand  would  be  forced 
to  recognize  Red  China. 

Mr.  Sourwine.  "Would  that  be  true  of  other  countries  of  southeast 
Asia? 

Mr.  Caldwell.  Most  of  them — Cambodia  is  sitting  on  the  fence. 
They  are  recognizing  both,  and  the  British  territories,  of  course,  have 
no  Chinese  representation  at  all. 

Mr.  Sourwine,  Mr.  Caldwell,  I  have  no  more  questions  along  that 
line.  I  do  want  to  ask  you  questions  about  one  individual  that  the 
committee  is  interested  in.  Before  I  do  that,  I  would  like  to  give  you 
an  opportunity  of  adding  anything  you  think  should  be  covered  in 
your  testimony  that  we  haven't  asked  you.  We  would  be  glad  to  have 
you  tell  us  that. 

Mr.  Caldwell.  No,  sir;  I  think  we  have  covered  particularly  the 
propaganda  campaign  very  clearly. 

Mr.  Sourwine,  Mr.  Caldwell,  when  you  were  attached  to  USIA,  did 
you  have  in  your  department  a  woman  named  Mary  Barrett? 

Mr.  Caldwell.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Sourwine.  To  your  knowledge,  was  Miss  Barrett  ever  repri- 
manded for  slanting  OWI  or  State  Department  printed  material  or 
broadcasts  in  a  pro-Communist  way  ? 

Mr.  Caldwell.  I  have  a  memory  of  a  reprimand  which  did  not 
specifically  deal  with  that,  but  with  her  effort  to  distribute  certain  of 
our  publications  in  Communist  areas  of  China  which  at  that  time  was 
strictly  against  my  policy  and  that  of  USIS  in  China. 

Mr.  Sourwine.  To  your  knowledge,  did  Miss  Barrett  live  in  Shang- 
hai with  a  woman  named  Sylvia  Campbell  before  the  latter  married 
John  W.Powell? 

Mr.  Caldwell.  Yes,  sir ;  she  did. 

Mr.  Sourwine.  Do  you  know  how  long  that  relationship  existed  ? 

Mr.  Caldwell.  I  would  say  approximately  a  year.  In  1945  and 
1946,  possibly  into  1947,  but  that  I  could  not  be  certain  of. 

Mr.  Sourwine,  Did  Mary  Barrett  join  the  staff  of  China  Review  ? 


3644      SCOPE    OF    SOVIET    ACTIVITY   IN    THE    UNITED    STATES 

Mr,  Caldwell.  Yes.  I  believe  she  stayed  in  Shanghai  for  about  a 
year,  perhaps  more,  after  the  Communists  took  over,  working  on  the 
China  Review. 

Mr.  SoTJRWiNE.  Do  you  know  anything,  of  your  own  knowledge, 
that  would  indicate  the  China  Review  was  an  official  or  semiofficial  or- 
gan of  the  Chinese  Communist  government? 

Mr.  Caldwell.  I  only  know  from  American  soldiers  I  have  talked 
to,  myself,  and  from  testimony  given  before  congressional  committees, 
that  that  magazine  was  widely  used  in  the  indoctrination  courses  given 
to  captured  American  soldiers. 

Mr.  SouRWiNE.  Mr.  Chairman,  I  have  no  more  questions  of  this 
witness. 

Senator  Jenner.  I  have  no  further  questions. 

The  committee  will  stand  recessed.  We  want  to  thank  you  for  ap- 
pearing before  us  and  giving  us  this  information. 

(Whereupon,  at  12 :  20  p.  m.,  the  committee  stood  in  recess.) 


INDEX 


Note. — The  Senate  Internal  Security  Subcommittee  attaches  no  significance  to 

the  mere  fact  of  the  appearance  of  the  names  of  an  individual  or  an  organization 

in  this  index. 

A  Page 

Africa 3642 

Africa,  North 3642 

America 3626-8628,  3631,  3637,  3641-3644 

American  soldiers 3644 

American   troops 3619 

Anslinger,  Harry  J 3611-3624,  3635,  3641 

Testimony  of 3611-3624 

Commissioner,  Bureau  of  Narcotics,  Treasury  Department 3611 

Vice  Chairman,  United  Nations  Commission  on  Narcotic  Drugs 3611 

Anti-Chiang  material 3635 

Anti-Nationalist  material 3635 

Army,  United  States 3619,  3638 

Asia 3612,  3614,  3618,  3619,  3634,  3636,  3639,  3642 

Asia,  Eastern 3634 

Asia,  Southeast 3620,  3624,  3634-3638,  3640-3643 

Asiatics 3633 

B 

Bangkok 3615,  3618,  3621,  3637 

Barrett,  Mary 3643 

Bharmo  district 3618,  3620 

Burma 3618,  3620,  3624,  3639-3641 

Burmese  Government 3618 

C 

Caldvpell,  John  C 3633-3644 

Testimonv    of 3633-3644 

Born  in  China 3633 

Home,  Nashville,  Tenn 3633 

Former  Director  of  the  United  States  Information  Service 3633 

Writer  and  lecturer , 3633 

Testified  before  subcommittee,  June  15,  1954 3633 

Cambodia 3635,  3637,  3639,  3640,  3642 

Campbell,  Sylvia 3643 

(Wife  of  John  W.  Powell) 3643 

Ceylon 3618,   3621 

Chanchiang  (South  China) 3629 

Chiang  Kai-shek 3634,  3636 

Chiang,  President 3642 

Chiengrai 3615 

China 3618,  3624,  3625,  3628,  3629-3634,  3638,  3639,  3642,  3643 

China  mainland 3611,  3615,  3616 

China  Mission  News  Service 3625 

China  Review 3643,  3644 

Chinese 3637 

Chinese  banks 3639,  3640 

Chinese  colony _' 3641 

Chinese  newspapers 3639,  3640 

Chinese  priests 3629 

Chinese  schools 3639,  3640 

Chinese   Reds 3639 

Chungking  Listening  Post  (publication) 3625 


n  INDEX 

Page 

Collier's    (magazine) 3627 

Committee  on  Illicit  Traffic  of  the  United  Nations,  report  of 3611 

Communism 3626,  3627,  3630,  3633,  3635 

Communist/s 3618,  3626,  3628,  3629,  3630,  3632,  3634,  3635,  3638,  3641,  3644 

Communist  agents 3619,  3624,  3641 

Communist  China 3611-3613,  3616-3623,  3626-3629,  3631,  3632,  3635-3644 

Communist  China  and  Illicit  Narcotic  Traffic 3612 

Communist,  Chinese 3621,  3622 

Communist  Chinese  press 3636 

Communist  educational  methods 3638 

Communist  money 3637 

Communist  Party 3618,  3636 

Communist  school,  Rashin 3619 

Communist    system 3628 

Confidential    (magazine) 3637 

Crown  trademark 3616,  3620 

D 
Diem 3635 

E 

Economic  and  Social  Council 3612 

Egypt 3642 

English 3637 

Europe 3613 

Exhibit  No.  439 — United  Nations  Commission  on  Narcotic  Drugs — Elev- 
enth Session 3614 

Exhibit  No.  440— Red  China  and  the  Narcotic  Traffic,  1956 3620 

Exhibit  No.  441 — Memorandum  on  George  Douglas  Poole  et  al 3623 

Ezrin,  Juda 3622 

F 

Far  East 3612-3614,  3619,  3621,  3623,  3634 

Formosa 3613,  3637,  3641 

Four  freedoms 3627 

French  Colonialist  administration 3635 

French  Dominion 3635 

G 
Gomulka 3631,  3632 

H 

Holy    Cross,    Baltimore 3624 

Hong  Kong 3612-3615,  3618,  3620-3623,  3625,  3629,  3636,  3637,  3641,  3642 

Honolulu 3623 

Hruska,  Senator 3611 

Hungary 3626,    3639 

I 

India 3641 

Indonesia 3635,  3639-3641 

Indochina 3635 

Iron    Curtain 3613 

J 

Japan 3613,  3615,  3618,  3621,  3624,  3637,  3641 

Jenner,  Senator 3611 

K 

Kengtung 3618,3620 

King,  Leon 3618,  3621 

Korea 3629,  3^32,  3641 

Korea,  South 3619,  3641 

Korean   truce 3633 

Korean  war 3628 

Kremlin 3631 


INDEX  m 

L 

Page 

Laos 3635,  3640 

Life    (magazine) 3627 

London 3618 

Longobardi,  Anthony  J 3621,  3623 

Los    Angeles 3621 

M 

Macao 3613,  3615 

Malava 3614,  3616,  3640 

Malaya,  Federation  of 3612,  3615,  3620 

Chief  Minister 3612,  3614 

Mandalay 361S,  3620 

Mao  Tse-tung 3630,  3631,  3643 

Mao  Tse-tung  tsan  shi  shing  lei  (Mao  Tse-tung  is  our  No.  2  leader) —     3631 

Maryknoll 3624 

Maryknoll  Mission  Society 3624 

Maryknoll  Office,  121  East  29th  Street,  New  York  City 3624 

Maryknoll   Prep 3625 

Mexico 3617 

Middle  East 3614,  3617,  3642 

Moeller,  Thomas 3621,  3623 

Moeller,  William 3621,  3623 

Montreal 3624 

Movie   capital 3637 

N 

Nanking 3629 

Narcotic  Control  Act  of  1956 3621,  3623 

Narcotics,  Bureau  of 3611,  3623 

San  Francisco  office 3623 

Nashville,   Tenn 3633 

Nationalists 3629,  3635 

Nationalist  China 3634,  3642,  3643 

Nationalist  Government 3617,  3624,  3636,  3642 

Nationalist   intelligence  report 3636 

Near  East 3613,  3614 

North   America 3615 

North    Borneo 3635 

O 

Orient 3621,   3623 

OWI 3643 

P 

Pauline   Privilege 3629 

Pavlov 3630 

Pavlov  theory 3630 

Peiping   Government 3617 

Peking 3629 

Philippines 3635 

Philippines,  President  of 3635 

Pnom  Penh  (capital  of  Cambodia) 3637 

Pittsford,  Vt 3624 

Poland 3626,  3631 

Polish  delegates 3617 

Politburo 3630 

Poole,  George  Douglas 3621,  3623 

Powell,  John  W 3643 

Propaganda   machinery.   Red   China's 3637 

Propaganda,  Red  Chinese 3635 

R 

Rangoon 3640 

Rashin 3619 

Red  China.     ( See  Communist  China. ) 

"Red  China  and  the  Narcotic  Traffic,  1946" 3620 


rv  INDEX 

Page 

Rhees 3634 

Rhee,    Syngman 3635,   3636 

Richardson,  King  S 3622,  3623 

Roman   Catholic   religion 3629 

Russia 3630,  3632 

Russian   delegates 3617 

Russian    equipment 3637 

Russian  stations 3629 

S 

Saigon 3618,  3621 

St.   Paul 3629 

San  Francisco 3618,  3621,  3624 

San  Francisco  Harbor 3622,  3623 

Saturday  Evening  Post  (magazine) 3627 

Schroeder,  F.  W 3611 

Seattle 3621 

Second   World   War 3625 

Shanghai 3643,  3644 

Singapore 3612,  3614-3616,  3638,  3640,  3642 

Sourwine,   J.   G 3611 

South  Korea.     {See  Korea,  South.) 

Stalin 3631 

Si  Ta  Lin  tsan  shi  shing  lei  (Stalin  is  our  leader) 3631 

State,  Department  of 3634^3636,3643 

T 

Taiwan 3615 

Tennien,  Father  Mark r 3624-3633,  3638,  8641 

Testimony    of 3624-3633 

Maryknoll  Mission  Society 3624 

Native,  Pittsford,  Vt 3624 

School — Montreal,  Holy  Cross  in  Baltimore,  Maryknoll 3624 

Ordained  in  1927— Went  to  China  in  1928 3625 

Taught  at  Maryknoll  Prep 3625 

Wrote   Chuneking  Listening  Post 3625 

1952  expelled  from  China 3625 

Returned  as  director  of  China  Mission  News  Service,  stationed  in 

Hong  Kong 3625 

Editor  of  mission  bulletin  1953-56 3625 

Thailand 3612-3615,  3620,  3624,  3635,  3637,  3640,  3641,  3643 

Time    (magazine) 3627 

Tokyo 3621 

Treasury   Department 3611 

Two-China   policy 3643 

U 

Uncensored    (magazine) 3637 

United   Kingdom 3612,  3614,  3616 

United    Nations 3615,  3617,  3619,  3620,  3621,  3623,  3632,  3642,  3643 

United  Nations  Commission  on  Narcotic  Drugs 3611-3615,  3620 

Eleventh   session 3614 

United  States 3616,  3618, 3621-3623,  3633,  3634,  3636, 3637 

USIA 3634,  3643 

USIS  (United  States  Information  Service) 3633,3634,3643 

V 
Vietnam 3618,  3621,  3635 

W 

Watson,  John  M 3618,3621 

Williams,  Gerald  F 3621,  3623 

Wood,  James  C 3621,  3623 

Y 
Yunnan 3616,  3620 

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SCOPE  OF  SOVIET  ACTIVITY  IN  THE  UNITED  STATES 


HEARINGS 

BEFORE  THE 

SUBCOMMITTEE  TO  INVESTIGATE  THE 

ADMINISTRATION  oFtHE  INTERNAL  SECURITY 

ACT  AND  OTHER  INTERNAL  SECURITY  LAWS 

OF  THE 

COMMITTEE  ON  THE  JUDICIARY 
UNITED  STATES  SENATE 

EIGHTY-FIFTH  CONGRESS 

FIRST  SESSION 

ON 

SCOPE  OF  SOVIET  ACTIVITY  IN  THE 
UNITED  STATES 


MARCH  12  AND  21,  1957 


PART  56 


Printed  for  the  use  of  the  Committee  on  the  Judiciary 


UNITED  STATES 
GOVERNMENT  FEINTING  OFFICE 
93215  WASHINGTON  :  1957 


Boston  Public  Library 
Superintendent  of  Documents 

OCT  9  - 1957 


COMMITTEE  ON  THE  JUDICIARY 

JAMES  O.  EASTLAND,  Mississippi,  Chairman 

ESTES  KEFAUVER,  Tennessee  ALEXANDER  WILEY,  Wisconsin 

OLIN  D.  JOHNSTON,  South  Carolina  WILLIAM  LANGER,  North  Dakota 

THOMAS  C.  HENNINGS,  JR.,  Missouri  WILLIAM  E.  JENNER,  Indiana 

JOHN  L.  McCLELLAN,  Arkansas  ARTHUR  V.  WATKINS,  Utah 

JOSEPH  C.  O'MAHONEY,  Wyoming  EVERETT  McKINLEY  DIRKSEN,  Illinois 

MATTHEW  A.  NEELY,  West  Virginia  JOHN  MARSHALL  BUTLER,  Maryland 

SAM  J.  ERVIN,  Jr.,  North  Carolina  ROMAN  L.  HRUSKA,  Nebraska 


Subcommittee  To  Investigate  the  Administkation  of  the  Internal  Security 
Act  and  Other  Internal  Security  Laws 

JAMES  O.  EASTLAND,  Mississippi,  Chairman 

OLIN  D.  JOHNSTON,  South  Carolina  WILLIAM  E.  JENNER,  Indiana 

JOHN  L.  McCLELLAN,  Arkansas  ARTHUR  V.  WATKINS,  Utah 

SAM  J.  ERVIN,  Jr.,  North  Carolina  JOHN  MARSHALL  BUTLER,  Maryland 

MATTHEW  A.  NEELY,  West  Virginia  ROMAN  L.  HRUSKA,  Nebraska 

Robert  Morris,  Chief  Counsel 
J.  G.  SODRWiNE,  Associate  Counsel 
William  A.  Rusher,  Associate  Counsel 
Benjamin  Mandel,  Director  of  Research 

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CONTENTS 


Testimony  of—  Pa&e 

Emmerson,  John  K 3645 


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SCOPE  OF  SOVIET  ACTIVITY  IN  THE  UNITED  STATES 

The  following  testimony  was  made  public  on  March  14,  1957,  by 
resolution  of  the  subcommittee. 


TUESDAY,   MARCH   12,    1957 

United  States  Senate, 
Subcommittee  To  Investigate  the  Administration 

OF  the  Internal  Security  Act  and  other 

Internal  Security  Laws,  of  the 
Committee  on  the  Judiciary, 

Washington^  D.  C. 

The  subcommittee  met,  pursuant  to  notice,  at  2 :  15  p.  m.  in  room  135, 
Senate  Office  Building,  Senator  William  E.  Jenner,  presiding. 

Present :  Senators  Jenner  and  Watkins. 

Also  present :  Robert  Morris,  chief  counsel ;  William  A.  Rusher,  as- 
sociate counsel;  Benjamin  Mandel,  research  director,  and  Robert  Mc- 
Manus,  investigations  analyst. 

Mr.  Morris.  Mr.  Emmerson,  will  you  stand  to  be  sworn,  please? 

Senator  Jenner.  Do  you  swear  the  testimony  you  give  in  this  hear- 
ing will  be  the  truth,  the  whole  truth  and  nothing  but  the  truth,  so  help 
you  God  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  I  do. 

Mr.  Morris.  Mr.  Emmerson,  would  you  give  your  name  and  address 
to  the  reporter? 

TESTIMONY  OF  JOHN  K.  EMMERSON,  DEPUTY  CHIEF  OF  MISSION, 
COUNSELOR  OF  EMBASSY,  BEIRUT,  LEBANON 

Mr.  Emmerson.  John  K,  Emmerson,  my  present  post  is  the  Amer- 
ican Embassy  in  Beirut;  Lebanon. 

Mr.  Morris.  And  what  is  your  actual  assignment  at  this  time? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  I  am  deputy  chief  of  mission,  and  counselor  of 
embassy,  at  Beirut. 

Mr.  Morris.  Are  you  on  a  special  assignment  here  in  the  United 
States  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  I  have  been  on  a  special  assigmnent  to  the  General 
Assembly  in  the  United  Nations  with  the  United  States  delegation 
since  the  1st  of  November. 

Senator  Jenner.  Let  the  record  show  Senator  Watkins  is  now  here. 

Mr.  Morris.  Senator  Watkins,  this  is  Mr.  John  K.  Emmerson,  our 
witness  today,  and  these  gentlemen  are  Mr.  Cartwright  and  Mr.  Hips- 
ley  of  the  State  Department. 

The  witness  has  just  now  been  sworn.  Senator.  We  are  asking  his 
present  special  assignment  here  in  the  United  States. 

3645 


3646       SCOPE    OF    SOVIET    ACTIVITY   IN    THE    UNITED    STATES 

Mr.  Emmerson.  I  have  been  assigned  as  a  member  of  the  United 
States  delegation  to  the  United  Nations  and  I  am  now  proceeding  back 
to  my  post  in  Beirut.  In  the  meantime,  I  have  been  transferred  to 
the  Embassy  in  Paris  where  I  expect  to  assume  my  duties  toward  the 
end  of  this  month. 

Mr.  Morris.  You  will  be  in  Paris  the  next  assigment? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  That  is  right. 

Mr.  Morris.  Mr.  Emmerson,  what  has  been  the  nature  of  your  as- 
signment at  the  United  Nations  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  I  have  been  one  of  the  liaison  officers  for  the  NEA 
area.  That  is  the  Middle  East  area,  the  Bureau  of  Near  Eastern  Af- 
fairs in  the  State  Department. 

Mr.  Morris.  As  such,  what  do  you  do  ? 

Mr,  Emmerson.  My  duties  were  largely  liaison  with  the  delegations 
from  the  Middle  Eastern  countries.  We  have  representatives  in  each 
of  the  four  geographic  bureaus  of  the  departments  who  serve  in  that 
capacity  during  the  session  of  the  General  Assembly. 

Mr.  Morris.  Mr.  Emmerson,  the  reason  the  subcommittee  has  asked 
you  to  be  here  today  is  that  there  has  accumulated  in  the  public  record 
of  the  Internal  Security  Subcommittee  since  1951  statements,  testi- 
mony about  you  and  certain  documents  of  yours,  so  we  felt  in  order 
to  have  a  full  story,  that  it  would  be  well  if  you  would  appear  and 
give  testimony  on  these  various  items. 

This  testimony  and  these  items  relate  to  a  period  of  time  when  you 
were-  -and  sliortly  thereafter — in  Yenan,  which  was  the  Chinese  Com- 
munist headquarters  in  China  during  the  recent  war.  I  wonder  if 
you  could  begin  your  testimony  today  J3y  telling  us  about  your  general 
assignment  to  Yenan  and  the  nature  of  your  duties  there. 

Mr.  Emmerson.  I  was  assigned  toward  the  end  of  1943  as  a  political 
adviser  to  General  Stilwell.  I  was  concurrently  second  secretary  of 
Embassy  in  Chungking  and  political  adviser  to  General  Stilwell. 

As  a  Japanese  language  officer  and  Foreign  Service  officer  who  had 
had  experience  in  Japan,  my  duties  in  the  theater  were  concerned  en- 
tirely with  Japanese  matters,  interrogation  of  prisoners  of  war,  psy- 
cholgical  warfare  particularly. 

In  the  fall  of  1944  our  Government,  or  the  Army,  the  United  States 
Army,  established  in  Yenan,  the  Communist  headquarters,  a  United 
States  Observers'  Mission.  This  was  done  with  the  consent  of  General 
Chiang  Kai-shek,  and  consisted  of  an  Army  unit  in  Yenan. 

My  assignment  to  the  observers'  section  was  concerned  exclusively 
with  phychological  warfare  matters.  It  was  known  that  there  was  a 
group  of  Japanese  prisoners  of  war  who  had  been  taken  by  the 
Chinese  Communists  and  who  were  operating  in  Yenan.  The  head 
of  this  group  was  a  well-known  Japanese  Communist  by  the  name 
of  Okano.  That  was  the  name  he  used  at  this  period.  He  later  used 
the  name  of  Nozaka.  It  is  one  and  the  same  person.  So  that,  when 
I  arrived  in  Yenan,  the  purpose  of  my  assignment  was  to  find  out 
the  kind  of  activities  which  were  being  conducted  by  this  group  of 
Japanese  prisoners  of  war.  At  that  time  in  1944  we  were,  of  course, 
concerned  with  the  prosecution  of  the  war  against  Japan. 

The  presence,  I  think,  of  an  American  observers'  mission  in  Yenan 
indicated  that  there  was  cooperation  between  the  Chinese  Communists 
and  ourselves  as  far  as  the  war  against  Japan  was  concerned,  so  that 


SCOPE    OF    SOVIET   ACTIVITY   IN    THE    UNITED    STATES      3647 

we  were  eager  to  find  out  the  kinds  of  activities  which  the  Japanese 
prisoners  of  war  there  were  conducting,  the  psychological  warfare 
that  they  were  engaged  in,  and  whatever  information  or  intelligence 
they  might  have  with  respect  to  Japan. 

I  think,  Judge  Morris,  that  is  the  background  of  my  assignment  to 
Yenan. 

Mr.  Morris.  You  would  report,  would  you  not,  back  to  your  supe- 
riors on  the  activities  of  this  Japanese  Peoples'  Emancipation  League, 
isn't  that  what  it  was  called  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  That  is  right. 

Mr.  Morris.  That  was  a  Communist  organization  was  it  not? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  Yes;  that  was  the  propaganda  organization  of  the 
Japanese  Communist  prisoners  of  war.  They  called  themselves  the 
Japanese  Peoples'  Emancipation  League,  and  they  put  out  leaflets 
and  pamphlets  of  various  sorts  which  were  distributed  behind  the 
Japanese  lines  or  in  the  areas  which  were  under  Japanese  control, 
purely  a  propaganda  operation,  but  of  course  completelj^  under  the 
direction  of  the  Japanese  Communist  leader,  Okano,  who  in  turn  was 
under  the  direction  of  the  Chinese  Communists. 

Mr.  Morris.  When  you  Avrote  back  to  your  superiors,  you  wrote 
generally  sympathetically  with  the  work  that  these  people  were  doing, 
did  you  not  ? 

Mr.  EMMERSOisr.  I  was  reporting  on  the  kind  of  work  they  were 
doing,  and  it  seemed  to  me  that  this  was  interesting  to  us  in  showing 
that  it  was  possible  to  carry  on  psychological  warfare  against  the 
Japanese,  so  if  you  use  the  word  "sympathetically"  to  indicate  that  I 
felt  that  they  were  achieving  some  success  in  these  lines,  then  that 
is  correct. 

Mr.  Morris.  In  that  connection 

Senator  Watkins.  Let  me  ask  a  question  there. 

I  am  a  little  at  a  loss  to  know  what  Japanese  prisoners  of  war  could 
do.  Were  they  finally  discharged  as  prisoners  or  were  they  under 
somebody's  custody  ? 

How  did  they  get  the  appellation  of  being  "prisoners  of  war"  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  They  were  prisoners  of  war  and  they  were  in  the 
custody  of  the  Chinese  Communists.  They  had  been  captured  on  the 
front  lines  in  China  by  the  Chinese  Communists  and  they  were  kept 
in  an  area,  an  enclosed  area. 

Senator  AYatkins.  A  compound,  a  prison  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  It  was  a  sort  of  a  very  informal  prison. 

They  did  not  have  actual  barriers.  They  trusted  most  of  these 
people,  and  Yenan  was  geographically  situated  so  that  they  could 
capture  them  if  they  tried  to  run  away. 

Senator  Watkins.  Did  they  have  arms  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  They  had  no  arms.  They  lived  in  caves  as  most 
of  the  people  in  Yenan  did,  in  the  side  of  the  mountain,  but  they 
were  in  a  particular  area  of  the  town,  and  they  also  had  what  they 
called  the  Peoples  Peasants  and  Workers  School  in  which  they  con- 
ducted courses  and  carried  on  indoctrination  programs  of  these 
prisoners  of  war. 

Senator  Watkins.  Were  the  Chinese  Communists  working  with 
them  at  the  time  ? 


3648       SCOPE    OF    SOVIET    ACTIVITY    IN    THE    UNITED    STATES 

Mr.  Emmerson.  Yes;  they  were  under  complete  control  of  the 
Chinese  Communists,  but  the  Chinese  entrusted  the  actual  operation 
to  the  direction  of  this  Japanese  Communist,  Okano, 'who  was  then 
present  in  Yenan  and  who  directed  the  whole  operation.  He  was  a 
Japanese  himself,  but  again  he  was  subject  to  the  orders. 

Senator  Watkins.  What  was  the  operation  they  were  doing? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  It  consisted  largely  of  two  things.  One  was  the 
psychological  warfare. 

Senator  Watkins.  Against  whom? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  Against  the  Japanese. 

Senator  Watkins.  In  the  homeland  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  In  the  homeland  and  in  China ;  that  is,  the  Japa- 
nese Army  operating  in  China  and  the  Japanese  homeland.  ^ 

Senator  Watkixs.  These  Japanese  prisoners  of  war  were  conduct- 
ing a  psychological  campaign,  according  to  what  you  have  just  said, 
against  the  Japanese  at  home  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  That  is  right. 

Senator  Watkins.  And  those  on  the  mainland  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  They  had  been  indoctrinated  to  the  extent  that  tney 
accepted  the  idea  of  the  end  of  the  war,  opposition  to  militarism,  and 
readiness  to  work  for  what  they  called  a  democratic  future  in  Japan. 

Senator  "Watkins.  In  other  words,  they  were  seeking  to  undermine 
the  armed  might  of  Japan  at  that  time. 

Mr.  Emmerson.  That  is  right. 

Senator  Watkins.  And  stop  the  war  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  That  is  right ;  exactly. 

Senator  Watkins.  I  did  not  understand  what  you  were  talking 
about. 

Mr.  Morris.  Mr.  Emmerson,  one  document  is  in  our  record  and  I 
would  like  to  ask  you  if  it  was  prepared  by  you.  It  is  only  a  page 
and  a  half,  and,  if  you  would  read  it  for  us,  I  would  appreciate  it. 
Read  it  and  identify  it. 

Mr.  Emmerson.  You  mean  read  it  aloud  ? 

Mr.  Morris.  Yes,  I  think  so. 

Mr.  EiNtMERSON.  And  may  I  discuss  it  as  I  go  along  ? 

Mr.  Morris.  I  wish  you  would. 

Mr.  Emmerson.  Yes.  This  is  a  report  written  in  Yenan  on  Novem- 
ber 7,  19-1:4,  a  very  short  time  after  I  had  arrived  in  Yenan,  and  the 
title  is  "Proposed  Projects  Against  Japan." 

Copies  of  all  our  reports  went  to  the  commanding  general  of  the 
theater  and  to  the  Embassy  in  Chungking.    [Reading :] 

My  short  study  of  the  activities  of  Susumu  Okano  and  the  Japanese  Peoples 
Emancipation  League  in  Communist  China  convinces  me  that  we  can  utilize  the 
experience  and  achievements  of  this  group  to  advantage  in  the  prosecution  of 
the  war  against  Japan. 

Mr.  Morris.  May  I  break  in?  You  knew  it  was  a  Communist  organi- 
zation ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  I  knew  it  was  a  Communist  organization.  I  felt 
that  the  fact  that  they  had  been  successful  in  indoctrinating  prisoners 
of  war  to  the  point  where  they  were  willing  to  participate  in  activities 
directed  against  the  Japanese  military  and  against  the  Japanese  regime 


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meant  that  the  use  of  such  people  was  a  possibility,  and,  therefore, 
might  contribute  to  our  effort  against  Japan.    [Reading :] 

Without  going  into  the  details  of  naethods  and  materials,  all  of  which  are 
being  carefully  investigated  here,  we  can  suggest  the  following  proposals : 

"(1)  Effect  the  organization  of  an  international  'Free  Japan'  movement. 
The  Japanese  Peoples  Emancipation  League  (Nihon  Jinmin  Kaiho  Renmei) 
has  an  estimated  membership  of  450  Japanese  prisoners  in  north  and  central 
China.  Its  declared  principles  are  democratic.  It  is  not  identified  with  the 
Communist  Party." 

I  would  like  to  j^oint  out  here  I  wrote  a  number  of  other  reports 
which  gave  in  detail  the  program  and  the  principles  of  this  propa- 
ganda ortranization.  Thev  were,  to  a  large  extent — if  I  can  recall  them 
after  this  period  of  time — antagonism  toward  the  militarists,  the 
ending  of  the  war,  peace,  freedom,  democracj^,  that  kind  of  thing. 

Now,  I  say  these  were  the  declared  principles  of  this  organization. 
It  was  obviously  a  Communist  organization,  and  that  was  completely 
known  to  me  at  the  time. 

Mr.  Morris.  But  there  is  nowhere  that  you  say  that  in  that  docu- 
ment ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  I  say,  "Its  declared  principles  are  democratic." 
The  next  sentence  I  say,  "It  is  not  identified  with  the  Communist 
Party." 

I  might  say  here  that  the  Communists  deliberately  did  not  identify 
it  as  being  a  Communist  organization,  because  they  expected  that,  by 
so  doing,  the  effect  would  be  greater  among  the  Japanese,  because,  as 
I  say,  the  leaflets,  the  material  which  they  scattered  and  used  in  China 
contained  the  kind  of  platitudes  which  I  have  mentioned,  "down  with 
the  militarists,  surrender  of  Japan,  democratic  principles,  peace," 
that  sort  of  thing  which,  after  all,  in  a  general  sense,  were  the  same 
kind  of  things  that  we  were  talking  about  with  respect  to  Japan. 

Upon  completion  of  a  course  of  indoctrination,  the  more  able  members  volun- 
tarily prepare  propaganda  leaflets  and  engage  in  propaganda  activities  on  the 
frontlines.  There  is  no  doubt  that  most  of  them  are  sincere  converts  to  the  anti- 
war principles  of  the  league. 

In  other  words,  that  the  war  was  a  mistake  and  that  they  were 
willing  to  work  to  oppose  war. 

Intelligence  shows  that  the  league  is  well  known  to  the  Japanese  Army  and 
its  influence  is  respected  and  feared — 

because  of  the  propaganda  work  they  had  already  been  doing  with  the 
Japanese  Army. 
Then  I  say : 

Organization  of  chapters  of  this  association,  or  a  similar  one,  among  Japanese 
prisoners,  internees,  and  others,  in  the  United  States,  India,  Australia,  and  other 
countries,  should  be  carried  out. 

Mr.  Morris.  In  other  words,  send  some  of  these  back  to  the  United 
States? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  I  say  :  "The  organization  of  chapters  of  this  associ- 
ation, or  a  similar  one,"  among  the  Japanese  prisoners  and  internees 
which  were  located  in  the  United  States  and  other  areas. 

Mr.  Morris.  In  other  words,  you  would  send  some  of  the  Japanese 
Communists  back  to  the  United  States  ? 

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3650       SCOPE    OF    SOVIET   ACTIVITY    EST    THE    UNITED    STATES  ' 

Mr.  Emmerson.  I  do  not  believe  I  say  that  here.  I  say  one  might 
organize  similar  associations;  that  is,  organize  similar  propaganda 
associations  in  the  Japanese  prison  camps  which  then  existed  in  these 
other  countries. 

Mr.  Morris.  I  don't  mean  to  labor  it,  Mr.  Emmerson,  but  you  say 
there,  do  you  not,  either  this  organization  or  a  similar  organization  be 
sent  back  to  the  United  States  ? 

Just  read  it  again. 

Mr.  Emmerson  (reading)  : 

Organization  of  chapters  of  this  association 

Mr.  Morris.  That  is  the  Japanese  Peoples  Emancipation  League? 
Mr.  Emmersox.  That  is  right — 

or  a  similar  one  among  Japanese  prisoners,  internees,  and  others  in  the  United 
States,  India,  Australia,  and  other  countries,  should  be  carried  out. 

I  am  talking  about  an  organization  for  psychological-warfare  pur- 
poses which  would  produce  leaflets  and  other  material. 

The  result  would  be  widespread  dissemination  of  democratic  ideas,  the  creation 
of  a  powerful  Japanese  propaganda  organ.  (It  is  indisputable  that  propaganda 
from  a  Japanese  source  and  written  by  Japanese  is  more  effective  than  that 
from  enemy  sources.) 

Mr.  Morris.  May  I  break  in  there  ?  Do  you  think  that  the  Japanese 
Communists  would  dispense  and  propagate  democratic  ideas? 

Mr.  Embierson.  Certainly,  not  basically.  As  I  said,  the  leaflets 
which  they  were  disseminating,  if  you  read  the  text,  it  is  simply  a 
matter  of  "down  with  the  militarists"  and  "end  the  war"  and  so  on. 

But,  of  course,  knowing  Communists,  their  objective  would  be  quite 
different.  So  I  would  like  to  say  right  here  that  this  suggestion  was 
made  when  I  was  only  in  Yenan  a  short  time,  and  was  made  on  the 
experience  of  what  they  were  doing,  was  made  in  the  atmosphere  of 
our  great  concentration  upon  the  war  effort  against  Japan,  and  our 
general  desire  to  get  collaboration  and  cooperation  wherever  it  might 
be  found,  and  I  am  quite  aware  that  this  does  not  indicate  the  ultimate 
objectives  of  the  Communist  move  or  of  Communists  anywhere. 

And  I  may  say  that,  when  I  worked  on  this  project  a  little  later, 
and  a  few  months  afterward  came  to  Washington  and  presented  the 
project  to  the  War  Department  and  to  the  State- War-Navy  Coordi- 
nating Committee,  there  was  no  suggestion  of  any  participation  by 
Communists  or  any  use  of  Communists  or  Communist  material  what- 
soever; so  I  am  quite  aware  the  ultimate  objectives  of  the  Communists 
are  far  from  democratic. 

I  was  not  aware  and  did  not  express  here  the  risks  which  would  be 
involved  in  collaboration,  close  collaboration,  with  the  Communists 
either  in  the  war  period  or  afterward. 

There  were  many  people  at  that  time  who  spoke  in  favor  of  the 
coalition  governments  in  which  Communists  might  participate.  I 
think  that  there  was  a  general  feeling  among  many  quarters,  and 
some  perhaps  high  statesmen,  that  collaboration  with  the  Communists 
was  possible.  We  later  found  out,  certainly,  that  that  was  not  possible, 
and  that  any  collaboration  with  a  coalition  government  in  which 
Communists  had  a  part  was  a  danger  and  meant  the  eventual  efforts 
of  the  Communists  to  dominate. 

Senator  Watkins.  Let  me  ask  you  a  question.  This  must  have  been 
prior  to  Russia's  entry  into  the  war  against  Japan  ? 


SCOPE    OF    SOVIET   ACTIVITY    IN   THE    UNITED    STATES      3651 

Mr.  Emmerson.  This  was  prior  to  Russia's  entry  in  the  war  against 
Japan. 

Senator  Watkins.  How  long  had  you  been  in  China  prior  to  your 
being  assigned  to  this  particuhar  assignment  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  I  had  been  in  India  and  Burma  until  about  October 
of  1944;  and  I  went  to  Chungking;  was  there  just  a  brief  time  and 
then  to  Yenan,  so  I  had  only  been  in  China  a  matter  of  a  few  weeks. 

Senator  Watkins.  Weeks  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  That  is  right. 

Senator  Watkins.  And  you  were  sent  immediately  from  our  own 
headquarters  in  China  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  From  Chungking,  yes,  to  Yenan. 

Senator  Watkins.  We  had  an  ambassador  there  at  that  time  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  We  had  an  ambassador  and  General  Stilwell — I 
have  forgotten  the  dates,  but  it  was  just  about  the  time  when  General 
Stilwell  relinquished  his  command  to  General  Wedemeyer. 

Senator  Watkins.  Of  course,  at  this  time,  the  Russians  entered  into 
the  war — I  mean  joined  with  us  in  operations  against  Germany  and 
Italy.  We,  of  course,  came  into  the  war  sometime  before  you  were 
there,  but  what  I  am  trying  to  get  is  the  background  as  to  what  was 
actually  happening  in  the  general  conduct  of  the  war,  irrespective  of 
Japan. 

Mr.  Emmerson.  Yes.  Of  course,  the  Soviet  Union  was  our  ally  as 
far  as  the  European  war  was  concerned,  and  I  think  already  by  this 
time  it  was  understood  or  believed  that  the  Soviet  Union  would  go  to 
war  against  Japan.  I  believe  that  Stalin  had  already  made  that 
promise,  if  I  am  not  mistaken. 

Senator  Watkins.  Had  you  been  so  advised  by  the  State  Depart- 
ment ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  I  don't  believe  so  at  this  time;  no.  I  don't  be- 
lieve so. 

Mr.  Morris.  Proceed. 

Mr.  Emmerson.  This  is  No.  2.  [Reading :] 

(2)  Encourage  the  organization  of  cells  within  Japan  to  spread  defeatism  and 
thereby  reduce  resistance  at  the  time  of  the  invasion. 

Preparations  are  now  being  made  to  send  agents  directly  to  Japan  from  this 
(Yenan)  area. 

The  OSS  had  an  operation  in  Yenan  and  they  were  engaged  in  ac- 
tivities of  this  kind.  I,  of  course,  had  no  responsibility  for  OSS  and 
no  relation  to  their  activities. 

Simultaneous  organization  needs  to  be  undertalien  of  underground  cells  within 
Japan  on  the  same  principles  as  the  free-Japan  group  on  the  outside.  Such 
activities  would  necessarily  be  on  a  small  scale,  but  ample  evidence  exists  that 
there  are  such  elements  which  can  be  useful  to  us.  Careful  preparation  is  ob- 
viously essential. 

(3)  Set  up  a  radio  transmitter  in  a  Communist  base  area  such  as  Shantung 
Province  for  broadcasts  to  Japan,  Korea,  and  Manchuria. 

A  transmitter  on  the  Shantung  promontory  would  be  400  miles  nearer  Japan 
proper  than  Saipan  and  600  miles  nearer  than  the  northern  tip  of  Luzon. 

The  Japanese  Peoples  Emancipation  League  has  a  strong  unit  in  Shantung 
Province  and  is  now  establishing  a  school  there.  Consequently  trustworthy 
Japanese  personnel  is  already  on  the  spot  to  operate  such  a  station.  Additional 
trained  personnel  could  be  recruited  from  the  school  in  Yenan  and  sent  to  any 
designated  spot. 

Identification  of  the  station  with  a  free-Japan  group  would  insure  broad- 
casts of  immeasurably  greater  effect  than  those  of  stated  American  (enemy) 
origin. 


3652     SCOPE  or  soviet  activity  m  the  united  states 

Again  it  is  obvious  that  I  was  thinking  only  of  the  short-term  activi- 
ties in  which  propaganda  in  its  content  of  a  general  nature  calling  for 
surrender,  calling  for  the  end  of  the  war  and  abolishing  of  the  mili- 
tary control,  and  I  did  not  go  into  the  risks  or  the  long-range  conse- 
quences of  such  an  effort. 

(4)  Train  units  of  Japanese  for  activity  witli  American  pacification  operations 
and  witli  military  government  officials  during  occupation. 

Eighth  Route' Army  experience  has  clearly  proved  not  only  that  .Japanese 
prisoners  can  be  converted  but  that  they  can  be  satisfactorily  and  extremely 
effectively  used  in  propaganda  operations  on  the  frontlines.  Approximately 
.3.50  are  now  training  and  engaging  in  such  activities  on  the  north  and  central 
China  fronts.    . 

Such  Japanese  personnel,  with  invaluable  knowledge  of  particular  areas  and  of 
the  language,  could  be  extremely  useful  in  assisting  American  Army  officers  in 
reestablishing  order  among  the  Japanese  population. 

Recruitment  of  these  persons  can  be  made  from  the  personnel  of  Japanese 
Emancipation  League  chapters  in  China,  already  trained,  and  from  prison  camps 
under  American,  Australian,  or  British  jurisdiction. 

A  course  of  training  would  be  necessary.    Issei — 

that  is  first-generation  Japanese — 

and  nisei  in  the  United  States  could  serve  as  instructors.  Materials  and  the 
experience  of  the  8th  Route  Army  would  be  of  inestimable  assistance  in  setting 
up  such  a  project. 

Mr.  Morris.  Don't  you  think,  in  retrospect  at  least,  to  have  Japanese 
Communists  work  in  American  occupation  with  military  government 
during  the  occupation  would  be  a  hazardous  thing  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  I  do  indeed.  I  again  was  thinking — the  emphasis 
here  was  on  the  fact  that  they  would  be  Japanese,  that  if  you  were 
utilizing  Japanese  in  these  activities,  they  would  be  more  effective 
than  Americans  or  other  foreigners,  and  I  do  say  that  issei,  which 
means  first-generation  nisei-American  citizens  in  the  United  States, 
should  serve  as  instructors,  the  idea  being  that  any  of  these  people 
who  were  utilized  would  be  instructed  by  Japanese  of  American  citi- 
zenship or  Japanese  in  the  United  States. 

But  I  should  like  to  add  that,  in  February  of  1945,  I  returned  to 
Washington  on  orders  of  the  theater  commander,  and  at  that  time 
presented  to  the  Provost  Marshal  General,  who  was  in  charge  of 
Japanese  prisoners  of  war,  a  proposal  that  Japanese  prisoners  in  the 
hands  of  the  United  States  be  given  a  program  of  reeducation  or 
indoctrination  for  their  possible  use  in  our  effort  against  Japan. 

That  was  accepted  by  the  Provost  Marshal  General,  and  a  camp  was 
set  up  in  Texas  which  was  operating  at  the  time  of  the  surrender. 

Senator  Watkins.  What  kind  of  an  indoctrination  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  That  was  indoctrination  in  American  principles,  in 
principles  of  democracy,  in  order  to  combat  the  ideas  of  militarism 
and  totalitarianism  which  had  been  instilled  into  the  Japanese  Army. 

There  was  no  suggestion  of  Communist  indoctrination  or  training. 
And  I  may  say  that  when  we  went  into  this  whole  matter  in  1952  in 
the  State  Department,  we  presented  a  complete  documentation  of 
this  particular  project,  and  there  is  a  history  in  the  War  Department 
which  describes  exactly  what  happened,  including  my  own  participa- 
tion. 

Mr.  Morris.  Did  you  bring  any  messages  back  from  Okano  with 
you? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  In  February  of  1945  when  I  came  back  to  the  De- 
partment, I  came  back  on  orders  of  General  Wedemeyer  for  the  spe- 


SCOPE    OF    SOVIET    ACTIVITY    IN    THE    UNITED    STATES      3653 

cific  purpose  of  discussing  these  projects,  the  one  for  the  education 
of  Japanese  prisoners  of  war,  the  other  for  an  organization  of  Japa- 
nese for  purposes  of  psychological  warfare  purposes,  for  purposes  of 
psychlological  warfare. 

May  I  just  inject  parenthetically  that  this  project,  the  second  proj- 
ect, was  taken  up  first  in  the  Far  East  Subcommittee  of  the  State 
Department  which  discussed  it  and  it  went  tlirough  a  number  of 
revisions.  Then  it  went  to  what  was  then  called  SWING — State- 
War-Navy  Coordinating  Committee,  consisting  of  Secretaries  of  State, 
War,  and  Navy. 

The  proposal  was  discussed  and  approved  by  that  body,  but  the 
date  by  that  time  was,  I  think,  August  of  1945.  The  surrender  came 
about  and  the  project  was  never  implemented,  but,  needless  to  say, 
there  was  no  suggestion  of  any  Communist  participiation  in  that. 

The  only  connection  was  that  I  had  concluded  from  my  experience 
in  China  that  these  things,  that  psychological  warfare  by  Japanese 
against  Japanese  was  possible,  and  that  it  was  something  that  would 
be  useful  for  us  to  undertake. 

As  a  matter  of  fact,  we  already  had  an  indoctrination  camp  for 
German  prisoners  of  war  which  had  been  going  for  some  time.  So 
that  was  the  conclusion  of  these  two  proposals. 

Senator  Watkins.  Did  you  have  any  instructions  when  you  went 
into  that  area  from  the  State  Department  or  from  General  Stilwell  ? 

]Mr.  Emmerson.  We  had  no  specific  instructions  from  the  State 
Department.  From  time  to  time  we  would  receive  memorandums 
giving  in  very  general  terms  the  elements  of  the  United  States  policy 
in  the  Far  East,  but  there  were  no  regular  or  systematic  instructions. 

When  I  went  to  Yenan  from  Chungking  headquarters,  my  travel 
orders  were  issued  by  the  commanding  general,  and 

Senator  Watkins.  That  was  General  Stilwell  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  General  Stilwell.  I  have  forgotten  the  statement 
or  the  wording,  but  the  idea  was,  the  purpose  of  my  trip  up  there, 
was  to  engage  in  these  activities,  study  the  psychological  warfare 
activities  of  the  Japanese  in  Communist  China. 

Senator  Watkins.  Were  you  asked  to  make  recommendations? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  I  beg  your  pardon  ? 

Senator  Watkins.  Were  you  asked  to  make  recommendations? 

Mr,  Emmerson.  That  was  implicit,  I  think,  in  the  assignment.  I 
don't  remember  whether  I  was  specifically  asked  to  make  any  recom- 
mendations. 

Senator  Watkins.  What  I  was  trying  to  find  out  is  the  scope  of 
your  official  mission,  and  what  did  they  want  you  to  do,  what  were 
your  orders,  what  was  the  whole  purpose  of  being  there? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  I  think  the  purpose  of  the  mission  was,  since  I 
was  the  only  Japanese  language  officer  civilian  attached  to  this  group, 
that  we  would  try  to  discover  what  intelligence  of  value  was  coming 
out  of  Japan,  particularly  for  psychological  warfare  purposes,  be- 
cause I  had  had  special  duties  with  respect  to  psychological  war- 
fare in  the  theater,  and  my  interrogations  of  prisoners  of  war,  for 
example,  were  of  course  not  directed  to  obtain  military  information 
but  to  obtain  information  on  the  attitudes  in  Japan  of  the  Japanese, 
of  their  morale,  of  the  status  of  their  thoughts  and  the  whole  psy- 
chological climate,  which  of  course  would  be  useful  to  us  in  devising 
the  methods  of  psychological  warfare  which  we  wished  to  use. 


3654       SCOPE    OF    SOVIET    ACTIVITY    IN    THE    UNITED    STATES 

Senator  Watkins.  Did  you  speak  the  Japanese  language? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  I  speak  Japanese,  yes,  sir,  and  in  February  1945 
I  presented  a  memorandum  to  General  Wedemeyer  and  to  General 
Hurley,  who  was  then  the  Ambassador,  suggesting  that  I  return  to 
Washington  in  order  to  discuss  these  specific  ideas,  the  indoctrination 
program  and  the  psychological  warfare  organization. 

This  proposal  was  approved  by  both  General  Wedemeyer  and 
Ambassador  Hurley,  and  I  returned  to  the  State  Department  in 
February  of  1945. 

Mr.  Morris.  At  that  time,  I  think  I  asked  you  a  while  ago,  did  you 
bring  any  letter  from  Okano  back  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  I  brought,  as  examples  of  activities  of  this  organ- 
ization, I  brought  back  a  number  of  materials  including  charts,  pam- 
phlets, leaflets,  as  objects  of  the  work  they  were  doing.  I  also  brought 
back  2  or  3  letters,  as  I  recall,  which  were  simply  statements  of  the 
principles  and  ideas  of  these  psychological  warfare  organizations. 

Mr.  Morris.  Okano  gave  you  this  before  you  left  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  Yes. 

Mr.  Morris.  Did  he  tell  you  to  deliver  it  to  anyone  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  As  I  recall  it,  there  was  one  which  had  the  name 
of  a  Japanese  in  the  United  States. 

Mr.  Morris.  Was  that  Fujii  Shuji  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  Fujii  Shuji. 

Mr.  Morris.  He  was  a  Communist. 

Mr.  Emmerson.  I  did  not  know  he  was  a  Communist  at  that  time. 
And  when  I  got  back  to  the  State  Department,  Mr.  Eugene  Dooman 
was  at  that  time  in  the  Bureau  of  Far  Eastern  Affairs.  I  had  known 
him  in  Japan  and  he  is,  of  course,  an  outstanding  Japanese  scholar, 
so  I  took  these  materials  and  showed  them  to  him  and  discussed  them 
with  him.  He  then  told  me  there  was  a  unit  of  OSS,  at  that  time  a 
very  highly  secret  organization,  in  New  York  which  was  doing  work 
on  psychological  warfare  against  Japan,  and  he  suggested  that  I 
accompany  him  to  New  York  to  visit  this  unit  and  take  these  mate- 
rials with  me,  which  I  did,  and  I  was  asked  by  Mr.  Dooman  to  explain 
to  this  group  my  experiences  in  China,  and  these  materials  which 
I  brought  were  left,  as  I  recall  it,  with  this  group. 

I  had  read  all  the  materials.  After  all,  they  were  in  Japanese  and 
I  showed  them  to  Mr.  Dooman.  It  was  my  impression  that  he  also 
read  them.  At  any  rate,  they  were  left  with  this  group,  and  I  dis- 
covered then  that  this  Mr.  Fujii,  I  believe,  was  an  employee  of  the 
OSS  and  a  member  of  that  group. 

Mr.  Morris.  Senators,  for  your  information  in  the  event  that  you 
were  not  present  at  the  hearing,  Mr.  Fujii  Shuji,  the  man  we  are 
talking  about,  the  subcommittee  received  evidence  that  he  was  a  Com- 
munist at  the  time  of  his  work  in  the  OSS,  the  time  referred  to.  When 
we  asked  him  about  that  during  the  past  year  he  claimed  his  privilege 
against  incrimination  rather  than  answer  the  question. 

Senator  Watkins.  Is  he  an  American  citizen  ? 

Mr.  Morris.  Yes. 

And  Okano  gave  you  these  letters  to  be  delivered  to  him. 

Mr.  Emmerson.  There  was  one  letter  which  contained  this  plat- 
form in  Japanese  which  had  his  name  on  it. 

Mr.  Morris.  Was  there  a  man  named  Haga  ? 

A  Japanese  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  I  believe  so. 


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Mr.  Morris.  Is  he  one  of  the  New  York  group  or  was  he  working 
in  OSS? 

Mr.  Emmerson,  I  am  sorry,  I  cannot  remember  that.  I  believe 
Mr.  Dooman  introduced  me  to  Haga.  Mr.  Dooman  had  come  in  con- 
tact with  him,  and  introduced  me  to  him  as  a  Japanese  who  was  work- 
ing for  our  war  effort. 

Mr.  Morris.  How  about  a  man  named  Tamotsu  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  I  don't  recall  that  name. 

Mr.  Morris.  Did  Okano  give  you  anything  else  to  bring  back  to 
the  United  States? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  I  don't  recall  that  he  gave  me  anything  else,  except, 
as  I  say,  these  charts,  pamphlets,  booklets,  all  of  which  were  illustra- 
tive of  the  kind  of  effort  they  were  putting  forth  against  the  Japanese. 

Mr.  Morris.  Did  any  of  these  Japanese  Communists  actually  come 
back  from  Yenan  to  Washington  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  Not  as  far  as  I  know. 

Mr.  Morris.  They  ultimately  went  back  to  Japan ;  did  they  not  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  Yes,  from  Communist  China,  so  far  as  I  know  they 
all  went  back  to  Japan. 

Mr.  Morris.  Did  you  aid  any  of  them  in  going  into  Japan  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  No,  I  did  not. 

Mr.  Morris.  You  did  not  help  Okano  getting  back  to  Japan  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  No,  I  did  not. 

Mr.  Morris.  How  did  he  get  back  to  Japan? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  That  charge  that  I  did  help  Okano  get  into  Japan 
was  made  some  years  ago  and  again  was  taken  up  in  great  detail  in 
my  hearings  before  the  State  Department  Loyalty  Security  Board 
in  1952,  and  I  was  in  Japan  at  the  time.  Apparently — we  are  not 
sure  how  he  got  back  but  it  seemed,  as  I  recall  from  the  records,  we 
were  able  to  discover  at  tliat  time  that  he  may  have  taken  a  United 
States  Army  plane  from  Yenan  or  may  have  been  put  on  board  a 
United  States  Army  plane  and  taken  into  North  China. 

From  there  presumably  he  got  to  Korea,  and  I  believe  he  must  have 
had  the  consent  of  the  American  general  in  charge  of  our  forces  in 
Korea  in  order  to  cross  the  boundary,  and  then  he  proceeded  and  ar- 
rived in  Japan  with  great  fanfare  and  publicity,  I  may  say. 

Mr.  JSIorris.  Did  you  visit  in  Japan  subsequently  when  you  were 
General  MacArthur's  aide,  the  Japanese  prisons  there?  Did  you 
visit  the  Japanese  Communists  in  their  cells? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  Shortly  after  I  arrived  in  Japan — this  was  un- 
mediately  after  the  surrender  in  1945— we  heard  that  there  were  some 
Japanese  Communists  in  a  prison  camp  just  outside  Tokyo  and  at 
that  time  Mr.  Herbert  Norman,  a  Canadian  diplomat,  was  working 
in  the  Counter  Intelligence  Corps.  He  is  a  well-known  Japanese 
scholar  and  speaks  Japanese,  was  born  in  Japan.  He,  as  I  say,  was 
working  for  Counter  Intelligence,  and  so,  under  orders  of  the  Counter 
Intelligence  Corps,  he  and  I  together,  in  an  Army  vehicle,  went  to  the 
prison  camp  to  find  out  whether  in  fact  these  prisoners  were  there. 

We  discovered  that  they  were,  that  there  were  two  very  prominent 
Japanese  Communists,  Mr.  Shiga  and  Tokuda.  After  talking  briefly 
to  these  prisoners,  we  returned  to  headquarters  and  reported  this  to 
the  Counter  Intelligence  Corps. 

It  was  felt  that  perhaps  these  prisoners  might  have  some  intelligence 
value  that  might  be  worth  while  interrogating  them,  so  it  was  ar- 


3656       SCOPE    OF    SOVIET    ACTIVITY    IN    THE    UNITED    STATES 

ranged  that  military  cars  from  the  Counter  Intelligence  Corps  should 
go  out  the  prison,  and  again  Mr.  Norman  and  I  went  out,  since  we 
spoke  Japanese. 

Prisoners  were  placed  in  the  cars  and  were  brought  back  to  head- 
quarters where  they  were  interrogated,  an  official  interrogation  in  the 
headquarters  itself  by  officers  of  the  Counter  Intelligence  Corps. 

At  the  end  of  the  interrogation,  they  were  taken  back  to  the  prison. 
That  is  the  complete  extent  of  my  association  with  the  interrogation 
of  those  prisoners  of  war  or  any  visits  to  Japanese  prison  camps. 

Mr.  Morris.  Are  you  acquainted  with  Mr.  Dooman's  testimony  to 
the  fact  that  these  Comnuuiists  were  driven  around  in  Tokyo  in  Army 
staff  cars  which  was  the  equivalent  of  100,000  votes  to  the  Japanese 
Communists  in  their  election? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  I  have  read  that  testimony,  and  all  I  can  say  is 
that  the  only  time  the  prisoners  were  ever  driven  in  Army  cars  was 
when  this  group  was  driven  from  the  prison  to  the  headquarters  and 
back  again. 

Mr.  Morris.  Were  they  observed,  do  you  think  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  There  was  no  reason  for  them  to  be  observed.  They 
were  in  khaki-colored  Army  sedans  and  they  went  through  the  streets 
of  Tokyo,  but  there  was  no  reason  for  them  to  be  remarked  any 
more  than  any  other  Army  cars  would  have  been. 

Furthermore,  Mr.  Dooman,  I  believe,  states  that  on  October  10,  I 
went  out  in  an  Army  car  and  liberated  these  prisoners  and  drove  them 
to  their  homes.  That  is  completely  false.  I  was  not  in  the  vicinity 
of  the  prison  on  October  10,  and  at  no  time  ever  drove  these  people 
to  their  homes.  They  were  freed  under  the  order  of  General  Mac- 
Arthur  which  liberated  all  political  prisoners  under  the  date,  I  be- 
lieve, of  October  4, 1945,  and  wdiat  happened  at  the  prison  at  the  time 
of  their  liberation  I  am  not  aware. 

Mr.  Morris.  Do  you  have  any  knowledge  that  Mr.  Norman,  the  man 
you  talked  about,  was  a  Communist? 

Mr.  Emmersox.  I  had  no  knowledge  whatsoever. 

Mr.  Morris.  Senators,  we  have  had  testimony  in  our  record  that 
Mr.  Norman,  who  was  then  the  Canadian  attached  to  SCAP  Head- 
quarters, a  professor  of  his,  a  man  who  was  a  Communist  teacher  at 
the  time,  has  testified  that  while  he  was  teaching  a  study  group  in 
Columbia,  one  of  his  students  in  this  Communist  group  was  E.  Herbert 
Norman,  the  man  we  have  been  talking  about.  He  was  the  man  who 
made  the  trip  with  you  at  the  time.  You  had,  you  say,  no  idea  he  was 
a  Communist? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  I  had  no  reason  to  think  he  was  a  Communist  either 
then  or  now.    He  is  presently  Canadian  Ambassador  to  Egypt. 

Mr.  Morris.  Senator,  we  have  quite  a  few  security  reports  which 
have  a  great  deal  of  information  to  the  effect  that  he  is  a  Communist, 
that  he  was  involved 

Senator  Jenner.  You  say  he  is  now  Canada's  Ambassador  to 
Egypt? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  Yes,  sir.  He  has  been  their  Ambassador  to  New 
Zealand  and  is  now,  I  believe.  I  believe  that  in  1951  the  Canadian 
Government  issued  a  press  release  stating  that  he  had  been  completely 
cleared  of  any  charges  made  against  him. 

Mr.  McManus.  Do  you  happen  to  know  if  he  was  in  Egypt  when 
Donald  McLean  was  over  there? 


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Mr.  EMiNiERSOisr.  That  was  some  years  ago ;  wasn't  it  ? 

Mr.  McManfs.  Yes. 

Mr.  Emmeeson.  No,  he  just  arrived  in  Egypt  the  end  of  October 
this  past  year,  just  recently  has  gone  there. 

Mr.  Morris.  Senator,  would  you  like  to  see  these  documents  I  am 
referring  to  about  Herbert  Norman  and  the  evidence  in  the  security 
files  that  he  is  a  Communist  ? 

I  think  it  would  be  appropriate  at  this  time. 

Senator  Jenner.  I  think  so. 

Senator  Watkins.  You  say  Herbert  Norman  is  now  an  Ambassador 
from  Canada  to  Egypt  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  Yes,  sir. 

Senator  Watkins.  From  Canada  to  Egypt? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  He  is  Canadian  Ambassador.  As  I  say,  he  has 
been,  as  far  as  I  know,  cleared  by  the  Canadian  Government  in  1951. 
I  understood  that  there  was  a  press  release  to  that  effect. 

Senator  Watkins.  I  assume  he  had  either  been  cleared  or  else  they 
do  not  know  anything  about  these  charges  against  him  if  they  send 
him  over  there  now. 

Mr.  Emmerson.  He  went  to  Japan  again,  after  war  I  believe,  as 
minister,  and  then  he  was  in  New  Zealand  as  their  chief  of  mission,  and 
as  I  say,  he  has  just  recently  been  transferred. 

Senator  Jenner.  How  recent? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  I  believe  it  was  the  end  of  October. 

Senator  Watkins.  Of  1956? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  1956. 

I  happen  to  know  because  he  is  also  accredited  to  Lebanon  as  minis- 
ter.   He  is  assigned  to  Cairo  and  accredited  to  Lebanon. 

Senator  Watkins.  Are  you  and  he  friends  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  I  have  known  him  since  about  1940. 

Senator  Watkins.  Do  you  correspond  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  We  do  not  correspond ;  no,  sir. 

Mr.  Morris.  Do  you  know  of  any  effort  that  was  made  to  have  Mr. 
Norman  serve  as  the  official  intelligence  liaison  between  Canada  and 
the  United  States  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  No,  I  have  never  heard  of  that. 

Mr.  Morris.  Do  you  know  of  what  I  might  call  a  campaign  to  effect 
that  assignment  for  him  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  No,  I  do  not. 

Mr.  Morris.  Mr.  Norman  was  also  head  of  the  American  and  Far 
Eastern  desk  of  the  Canadian  Foreign  Office ;  was  he  not? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  I  believe  at  one  time  he  was ;  yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Morris.  ^Tien  did  you  first  meet  Mr.  Norman,  Mr.  Emmerson  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  I  think  about  1940.^  It  was  prewar  Japan.  He 
was,  at  that  time,  at  the  Canadian  Legation  in  Tokyo  when  I  was  at  the 
American  Embassy  in  Tokyo.  He  was  already  a  well-known  writer 
on  Japan,  has  written  a  number  of  books  on  the  Government  of  Japan. 
He  was  born  in  Japan  and  speaks  Japanese,  of  course,  fluently,  and 
has  always  been  widely  known. 

Mr.  Morris.  Had  he  attended  Columbia  University  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  I  assume  so.  That  I  don't  know.  He  was  already 
in  the  Canadian  Foreign  Service  in  1940,  that  is  the  prewar  period. 

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He  is  well  known  to  anybody  who  has  had  anything  to  do  with  the 
Far  East,  because  he  has  written  on  the  Far  East  and  is  a  very  well- 
known  scholar,  but  I  just  say  I  have  no  reason  to  think  he  was  a  Com- 
munist in  my  association  with  him. 

Senator  Watkins.  Did  he  ever  give  any  indication  in  conversations 
with  you  that  he  was  pro-Communist  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  No,  not  to  my  recollection.  I  don't  remember  any 
conversation  which  would  indicate  that  he  was  a  Communist. 

Senator  Watkins.  At  the  times  you  were  talking  of,  was  there  any 
suspicion  then  that  the  Communists  had  designs  against  the  United 
States? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  I  think  that  there  was  a  general  lack  of  understand- 
ing of  Communist  ideology  and  Communist  aims  and  objectives  at  this 
early  period.  It  seems  to  me  the  history  of  the  war  period  and  the 
postwar  period  shows  that  there  was  a  good  deal  of  misunderstanding 
and  lack  of  appreciation  of  the  Communist  menace  and  the  Communist 
aims  and  objectives,  and  as  long  as  Kussia  was  in  the  war  with  us  as  an 
ally,  that  misunderstanding  tended  to  continue. 

Senator  Watkins.  Did  you  ever  serve  in  the  underground  in 
France  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  No,  sir,  I  liave  not. 

Senator  Watkins.  Do  you  have  any  knowledge  of  that  operation  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  No,  none  whatsoever. 

Mr.  Morris.  Do  you  know  a  Dr.  Chi  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  No,  I  do  not  know  him. 

Mr.  jMorris.  He  and  Herbert  Norman,  according  to  our  records 
were  associated,  closely  associated  in  Japan. 

Mr.  Emmerson.  No,  sir. 

Mr.  Morris.  You  never  encountered  him  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  No,  sir. 

Mr.  Morris.  He  had  been  an  American-trained  Chinese. 

Mr.  Emmerson.  Chi?    No. 

Mr.  Morris.  Did  you  meet  Owen  Lattimore  in  Japan? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  I  met  Owen  Lattimore. 

Mr.  Morris.  He  was  also  close  to  Norman  and  Chi. 

Mr.  Emmerson.  I  see. 

Mr.  Morris.  '\Vliat  was  your  experience  with  Mr.  Lattimore? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  I  can't  remember  when  I  may^  have  first  met  him. 
Again  he  is  another  figure  who  is  of  course  acquainted  to  anyone  who 
has  ever  had  anything  to  do  with  the  Far  East,  his  writings  and  all 
his  associations  with  the  Far  East,  and  I  may  have  seen  him  before 
the  war  on  1  or  2  occasions.  He  made  a  trip  to  Japan  after  the  war. 
I  believe  I  saw  him  once. 

Mr.  Morris.  What  were  the  circumstances  of  your  seeing  him  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  As  I  recall  it,  there  was  some  kind  of  a  dinner  at 
which  a  number  of  people  were  present  at  the  Imperial  Hotel.  I  am 
sorry,  I  have  a  very  vague  memory  of  this. 

Mr.  Morris.  It  was  a  meeting  at  the  hotel  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  It  was  not  a  meeting.  It  was  a  dinner  as  I  recall 
it.    There  were  a  number  of  people  present. 

Mr.  Morris.  Who  was  the  host  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  I  am  sorry ;  I  can't  remember. 

Mr.  Morris.  And  you  can't  remember  who  the  people  were  that  were 
there  ? 


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Mr.  Emmerson.  No. 

Senator  Jenner,  Was  Norman  there  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  I  just  have  a  recollection  of  seeing  Mr.  Lattimore. 

Senator  Jenner.  Was  Norman  there  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  I  don't  believe  he  was  but,  again,  I  am  not  sure. 

Mr.  Morris.  Subsequently  you  had  an  assignment  in  Moscow,  did 
you  not,  Mr.  Emmerson  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Morris.  Were  there  ever  any  security  charges  brought  up  in 
Moscow  against  you  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  There  was  one  incident  involving  a  document  which 
disappeared.  I  was  the  one  who  discovered  the  fact  that  a  document 
was  missing.  I  reported  it  immediately  to  my  superiors  in  the  Em- 
bassy, and  a  search  was  made. 

The  Ambassador  at  that  time.  General  Bedell  Smith,  made  an  inves- 
tigation, wrote  a  report  about  this  to  the  State  Department  which  is 
in  the  files. 

Mr.  Morris.  And  you  don't  know  what  happened  to  the  document  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  I  do  not  know. 

Mr.  Morris.  Did  you  know  a  Gen.  Patrick  Hurley  at  all  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Morris.  What  were  your  experiences  with  General  Hurley  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  Well,  he,  as  you  may  recall,  was  first  sent  out  to 
China  as  a  special  representative  of  the  President  in  the  fall  of  1944, 
and  I  believe  I  first  met  him  in  Chungking.  I  was  in  Yenan  at  the 
time  he  made  one  of  his  visits  to  Communist  China.  He  came  up  in 
the  fall,  I  believe  in  November  of  1944,  to  discuss  with  the  Commmiists 
the  matter  of  coalition  or  union  with  the  Nationalist  Government,  and 
I  was  present  in  Yenan  at  that  time.  I  met  him  again  of  course  in 
Chungking  a  number  of  times,  and  I  believe  once  in  Washington  after 
I  had  returned  from  China. 

Mr.  Morris.  Mr.  Chairman,  may  I  read  this  into  the  record  because 
I  think  it  is  appropriate  ? 

Senator  Jenner.  Yes,  proceed. 

Mr.  Morris.  In  an  indirect  way,  if  you  will  understand,  Mr.  Emmer- 
son. We  are  interested  in  the  whole  area,  and  as  was  made  very  clear, 
in  no  way  are  you  here  as  an  adverse  personality  but  we  are  trying 
to  learn  from  you  the  whole  thing. 

This  is  a  security  report.  Senator,  and  as  you  know,  in  security  re- 
ports, very  often  the  identity  of  the  sources  of  the  information  are 
not  known. 

I  do  know  that  as  far  as  Mr.  Norman  is  concerned,  that  there  was 
this  direct  testimony  by  Professor  Wittfogel,  who  is  an  outstanding 
Chinese  scholar,  that  Norman  was  a  student  of  his  in  a  Communist 
group  in  Columbia  while  he  was  a  professor  there. 

Later  when  we  looked  into  it  we  further  learned  that  Herbert  Nor- 
man was  the  secretary  of  an  organization  which  was  called  the  Amer- 
ican Friends  of  the  Chinese  People,  which  was  also  a  Communist  or- 
ganization, and  they  formed  a  Canadian  affiliate  called  the  Canadian 
Friends  of  the  Chinese  People,  and  Norman  was  the  executive  sec- 
retary. 

I  thought  that  very  significant  because,  on  these  Communist-front 
organizations,  Senator,  generally  the  executive  secretary  is  someone 


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they  can  trust.    But  then,  in  the  course  of  time,  we  have  learned  some 
of  these  things  and  I  would  like  to  read  a  few  paragraphs  from  this. 
Mr.  Morris  [reading] : 

Dr.  Norman,  as  was  pointed  out,  is  an  outstanding  Japanese  scholar,  a  linguist, 
historian  and  authority  on  contemporary  Japanese  politics  and  affairs  in  general. 
Among  his  recent  Japanese  associates  are  Tsuru  Shigeto — 

Do  you  know  Mr.  Tsuru  by  any  chance  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  I  met  him  in  Tokyo. 

Mr.  Morris.  He  is  in  Japan  now ;  is  he  not? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  I  believe  he  is  in  the  United  States  now. 

Mr.  Morris.  I  see.   Where  is  he? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  Harvard  University,  I  believe. 

Mr.  Cartwright.  Yes ;  that  is  right. 

Mr.  Morris.  He  is  not  working  with  the  State  Department ;  is  he  ? 

Mr.  Cartwright.  He  is  on  some  kind  of  a  fellowship  or  a  year's 
service  out  there  in  some  connection. 

Mr.  MciSlANus.  He  was  attached  to  SCAP. 

Mr.  Emmerson.  That  is  right. 

Mr.  Morris  [reading] : 

(Counsel  then  read  from  a  United  States  Government  executive 
agency  security  report  which  indicated  that  Dr.  E.  Herbert  Norman 
had  been  recalled  from  Japan  when  his  Government  discovered  cer- 
tain Communist  connections,  specifically  with  Israel  Halperin,  a 
Canadian  citizen  of  Russian  parentage,  who  was  one  of  the  principals 
implicated  in  the  exposed  Soviet  military  intelligence  operation  in 
Canada.) 

You  will  remember.  Senator  Jenner,  when  you  tried  to  have  Gou- 
zenko  testify,  that  the  Canadian  authorities  would  not  let  you  ask  any 
questions  whatever  about  anyone  who  was  a  Canadian  personality. 

(Counsel  Morris  continued  the  reading.) 

When  Tsuru  Shigato,  Japanese  instructor  at  Harvard,  was  apprehended  for 
repatriation  purposes  in  1942,  the  FBI  was  approached  by  Norman  who  repre- 
sented himself  as  an  official  on  highly  confidential  business  of  the  Canadian 
Government  in  an  effort  to  take  custody  of  Tsuru's  belongings. 

One  main  item  of  these  belongings  was  a  complete  record  of  the  Nye  munitions 
investigations,  largely  prepared  by  Alger  Hiss. 

Norman  later  admitted  to  the  FBI  agents  in  charge  that  his  was  only  a  per- 
sonal interest,  and  that  he  was  not  representing  the  Canadian  Government  as 
stated. 

Another  item  among  these  belongings,  as  reported  by  the  FBI,  was  a  letter 
dated  May  9,  1937,  which  related  to  a  series  of  studies  being  promoted  at  Har- 
vard by  Tsuru  which  provided  for  the  study  of  American  capitalists  from  a 
Marxist  viewpoint.  The  studies  were  conducted  by  a  group  of  young  instructors 
and  graduate  students  which  had  met  five  times.  They  discussed  certain  papers 
which  included  American  Imperialism,  by  E.  H.  Norman. 

The  report  further  indicated  that  Norman  was  identified  in  Feb- 
ruary of  1940  as  a  member  of  the  Communist  Party. 

One  of  the  witnesses  at  the  marriage  of  Norman  to  Laura  Irene 
Clark  on  August  31, 1935,  was  one  C.  P.  H.  Holmes  who  has  been  iden- 
tified as  Charles  P.  H.  Holmes,  born  in  Japan  in  1910  and  known  as 
a  Communist  and  active  in  the  Communist  underground  in  Ottawa. 

It  goes  on  with  quite  a  bit  more  about  Herbert  Norman.  This  is  all 
in  connection  with  an  inquiry  that  there  was  an  effort  being  made  to 
have  Norman  given  the  assignment  of  being  liaison  between  Canada 
and  the  United  States  Intelligence. 


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The  association  with  Norman  is  something  we  would  like  to  know 
as  much  as  we  can  about.    Can  you  tell  us  something  about  it  ? 

It  would  seem  from  that  that  he  is  an  important  personality. 

Mr, Emmersox.  lean 

Mr.  MoRKis.  The  other  thing,  Mr.  Emmerson,  is  that  the  Japanese 
Communist  Party  today,  the  main  blood,  is  supplied  by  the  Japanese 
prisoners  who  have  been  trained  by  Communists  in  Siberia  and  sent 
back  into  Japan.  Senator  Jenner,  I  think  it  was,  who  took  the  testi- 
mony, that  the  NKVD  man  who  recruited  most  of  them  has  now  been 
sent  into  Japan  after  they  preceded  him,  and  they  are  now  making  up 
the  Communist  underground. 

So  all  this  activity  of  Xorman  with  the  Japanese  prisoners  is  of  great 
interest  to  the  subcommittee. 

So  we  feel  that  you  should  be  able  to  tell  us  great  deal  about  this. 

Mr.  Emmerson.  I  can  say  again  that  my  prewar  association  with 
Norman  was  a  social  one,  that  we  met  occasionally  and  we  knew  each 
other. 

We  both  had  interests  in  Japan,  in  Japanese  culture,  history  and 
literature. 

The  second  time  I  met  him  was  in  Tokyo  in  postwar  Japan  when  he 
was,  as  I  say,  a  member  of  the  Counter  Intelligence. 

Now  he  had  a  great  knowledge  of  Japanese  history,  of  Japanese 
politics,  of  Japanese  political  parties.  One  would  describe  him,  as 
far  as  his  conversations  with  me  were  concerned,  as  one  with  liberal 
ideas. 

In  searching  my  memory  I  simply  cannot  recall  any  statements,  any 
conversations  of  his  whicli  would  lead  me  to  the  conclusion  that  he 
was  a  member  of  the  Communist  Party. 

Mr.  Morris.  Y\^hen  did  you  last  see  him?  When  did  you  last  see 
Norman  ? 

]Mr.  Emmerson.  He  came  to  Beirut  to  present  his  credentials,  and  I 
saw  him  very  briefly  on  about  October  the  27th,  I  guess. 

Senator  Jenner.  This  last  year,  1956  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  This  last  year,  that  is  right.  He  was  accredited  to 
Lebanon. 

Senator  Jenner.  He  presented  his  credentials  at  Beirut  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  That  is  right,  as  Canadian  Minister,  although  he  is 
resident  in  Cairo. 

Senator  Watkins.  He  serves  in  dual  capacity.  Minister  to  one  coun- 
try and  Ambassador  to  the  other  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  That  is  right ;  yes. 

Mr.  Morris.  And  there  is  nothing  more  about  Norman  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  I  would  be  glad  to  give  you  any  information  I 
possibly  might  have.  As  I  say,  I  have  known  him  only  as  a  person  who 
is  a  well-known  Japanese  scholar  and  a  person  who  is  intelligent  and 
was  well  thought  of  as  far  as  his  scholastic  connections  were  concerned. 

Senator  Jenner.  In  October  when  you  saw  him  in  Beirut  when  he 
came  to  present  his  credentials,  did  you  have  dinner  with  him  or  did 
you  visit  with  him  at  any  length  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  Very  briefly,  because  I  was  leaving  the  same  day 
for  the  United  States. 

Senator  Jenner.  Did  he  pass  any  opinion  upon  the  problems  con- 
fronting the  world  in  the  Middle  East  at  that  time  ? 


3662     SCOPE  or  soviet  activity  in  the  united  states 

This  was  in  October  1956  ? 

Mr.  EmmeksOjST.  He  was  extremely  concerned  about  the  develop- 
ments in  the  Middle  East,  about  the  danger  of  an  explosion  taking 
place. 

As  a  matter  of  fact,  I  believe  that  this  outbreak  occurred  while  he 
was  in  Beirut  and  he  was  delayed  in  getting  back  to  Cairo. 

Senator  Jenner.  Which  outbreak  now  do  you  refer  to  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  I  am  referring  to  the  Israeli  invasion  at  the  end 
of  October,  and  the  British  and  French  action. 

Senator  Watkixs.  Did  he  go  back  there  before  the  trouble? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  He  could  not  leave  because  no  one  could  go  to  Cairo. 
After  the  invasion  had  taken  place  there  was  no  plane  service  between 
Beirut  and  Cairo.  I  am  not  sure  how  long  he  had  to  stay  there,  but 
no  one  could  go  from  Beirut  to  Cairo. 

Senator  Watkins.  You  left  the  same  day  that  he  came  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  That  is  right. 

Senator  Watkins.  "VMiat  were  your  duties  in  Beirut  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  I  am  deputy  chief  of  mission  there,  consular  em- 
bassy. 

Senator  Watkins.  Is  that  in  effect  a  deputy  Ambassador  ? 

Mr.  EMarERSON.  That  is  right.  That  is  the  No.  2  position  in  the 
Embassy. 

Senator  Watkins.  Yes. 

Senator  Jenner.  Did  he  criticize  our  country  for  the  attitude  we 
took  on  the  English  and  French  invasion  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  No  ;  because  that  had  not  taken  place. 

Senator  Jennen.  That  was  not  discussed  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  The  British  and  French  invasion  had  not  taken 
place  when  I  saw  him.  As  I  recall  it,  we  discussed  the  general  situa- 
tion in  the  Middle  East. 

Senator  Jenner.  I  thought  you  were  referring  to  the  outbreak  when 
Israel  broke  into  the  Sinai  Desert  and  so  forth  and  at  the  same  time, 
as  I  recall  it,  and  I  may  be  wrong,  the  French  and  British  moved  into 
Suez. 

Mr.  Emmerson.  As  I  recall  the  chronology,  that  did  not  happen 
until  about  the  30th  or  the  31th  of  October.  I  was  in  London,  in  fact 
I  was  in  the  House  of  Commons  on  the  30th,  which  was  the  day  Prime 
Minister  Eden  presented  his  ultimatum,  so  that  he  did  not  know,  at 
least  in  Beirut,  about  the  Israeli — in  fact,  I  think  that  mobilization  in 
Israel  had  taken  place,  but  we  had  not  got  that  news  yet  when  I  left 
Beirut. 

Senator  Jenner.  So  that  matter  was  not  discussed  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  That  matter  was  not  discussed. 

Senator  Jenner.  Do  you  recall  what  you  did  talk  about  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  The  general  situation,  and  I  am  sure  that  we  did 
discuss  the  general  situation  in  the  Middle  East,  and  our  concern  about 
developments  and  about  the  dangers  to  western  interests  in  the  Middle 
East. 

I  am  sorry  I  cannot  recall  any  specific  statements  that  he  may  have 
made,  but  there  was  certainly  nothing  which  would  excite  my  curiosity 
or  which  would  strike  me  as  being  strange  or  being  pro-Communist. 

I  am  sure  that  I  would  have  remembered  any  statement  of  that 
sort. 


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Mr.  Morris.  You  said  you  met  him  briefly  and  shortly,  I  forget 
which  was  your  expression. 

How  long  would  that  be  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  He  and  his  wife  stopped  by  our  house. 

Mr.  Morris.  You  said  briefly  or  shortly,  whatever  the  expression 
was. 

Mr.  Emmerson.  For  2  hours,  something  of  that  sort. 

Senator  Jenner.  He  knew  that  you  were  there  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  Yes. 

Senator  Jenner.  How  did  he  know  that  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  I  assume  that  he  learned  it  from  friends.  I  don't 
know  how  he  knew  that  I  was  there. 

Senator  Jenner.  He  ascertained  your  address  and  came  by  your 
home  with  his  wife  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  That  is  right. 

Senator  Jenner.  How  long  did  he  stay  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  About  2  hours. 

Senator  Jenner.  You  have  not  been  corresponding  at  all  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  No  ;  we  have  never  corresponded. 

Senator  Jenner.  In  other  words,  he  had  to  get  your  address  from 
some  other  official  or  some  mutual  friend  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  That  is  right. 

Senator  Jenner.  And  you  have  many  mutual  friends,  I  take  it? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  That  is  right;  we  have  many  mutual  friends  be- 
cause we  both  served  in  Japan,  and  anybody  who  has  served  in  the 
Far  East  knows  other  people  who  have  served  in  the  Far  East,  and 
as  I  say,  if  I  had  had  any  reason  to  suspect  that  he  was  a  pro-Commu- 
nist I  would  have  noticed  it  or  I  would  have  been  conscious  of  it. 

Senator  Watkins.  Was  there  any  indication  in  your  2-hour  visit 
with  him  in  Beirut  that  he  was  sympathetic  with  the  Communists? 

Mr.  Eimmerson.  None  whatsoever,  absolutely  none. 

Senator  Watkins.  If  he  is  a  Communist,  secretly  a  Communist,  he 
certainly  has  not  any  business  being  a  representative  of  the  Canadian 
Government.  Of  course  I  would  assume  that  the  Canadian  Govern- 
ment, being  probably  just  as  much  opposed  to  communism  as  we  are, 
would  take  very  efl'ective  measures  to  determine  whether  he  was  or  was 
not. 

Any  man  would  have  the  right  to  assume,  until  the  contrary  was 
shown,  that  he  was  not  a  Communist,  because  of  the  well-known  atti- 
tude of  Canada  with  respect  to  communism  and  their  close  relation- 
ship with  us  in  this  fight  in  the  cold  war. 

Mr.  Emmerson.  That  is  right. 

As  I  said  before,  I  do  know  that  when  some  question  came  up  in 
1952,  we  discovered  that  there  had  been  a  press  release,  I  believe  in 
1951,  issued  by  the  Canadian  Government  which  stated  that  charges 
had  been  made  against  Mr.  Norman  and  that  he  had  been  completely 
cleared. 

Of  course  I  have  no  further  knowledge  about  his  relations  with  the 
Canadian  Government  or  any  subsequent  investigations  and  clearances 
which  may  have  taken  place. 

Senator  Watkins.  You  are  married,  I  take  it  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  I  am  married ;  yes,  sir. 

Senator  Watkins.  Do  his  wife  and  your  wife  correspond  ? 


3664      SCOPE    OF   SOVIET   ACTIVITY    IN   THE    UNITED    STATES 

Mr.  Emmerson.  No  ;  they  do  not  correspond. 

Senator  Jenner.  Did  he  say  anj^thing  about  the  reasons  why  he 
liappened  to  be  assigned  to  the  Middle  East  at  that  particular  time, 
whether  or  not  he  was  pleased  or  displeased  by  it  ? 

Mr.  Emuierson.  He  was  very  pleased,  extremely  pleased.  He  had 
been  in  New  Zealand  for  I  don't  know  how  long,  maybe  2  years  or 
more,  and  I  know  he  had  very  recently  come  to  Cairo. 

As  I  recall  it,  he  mentioned  his  starting  to  study  Arabic  and  he  was 
quite  a  linguist  and  had  read  a  great  many  books  on  Egypt,  on  the  Near 
East.  He  was  intensely  interested  in  the  situation  in  Egypt,  in  the 
Nasser  regime  and  what  was  going  to  come  out  of  all  this.  That  is  the 
sort  of  thing  that  I  recall  being  discussed. 

Senator  Jenner,  Proceed,  Mr.  Morris. 

Mr.  Morris.  When  did  you  last  see  Mr.  Tsuru  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  I  suppose  I  left  Japan  in  February  1946.  It  was 
some  time  before  then. 

Mr.  Morris.  You  have  not  seen  him  since  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  No,  sir. 

Mr.  Morris.  You  have  not  corresponded  with  him  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  No. 

Mr.  Morris.  Did  you  know  Solomon  Adler  in  the  Far  East  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  I  met  him  in  Chungking.  He  was  the  Treasury 
attache  in  1944. 

Mr.  Morris.  Did  you  see  much  of  him  at  that  time  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  From  time  to  time.  The  American  colony  was 
small  there.   I  saw  him  on  2  or  3  occasions. 

Mr.  Morris.  What  was  the  nature  of  the  association  that  you  had 
with  him,  was  it  all  on  an  official  basis  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  Yes. 

Mr.  Morris.  No  private  meetings  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  No  private  meetings.  I  say  I  may  have  seen  him 
socially  once  or  twice,  dinner. 

Mr.  Morris.  When  did  you  last  see  Mr.  Fujii? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  Mr.  Fujii  I  only  saw  one  time  in  my  life  which  was 
this  time  when  Mr.  Dooman  took  me  to  New  York.  I  had  never  seen 
him  before  and  I  have  never  seen  him  since. 

Mr.  Morris.  Just  one  other  thing. 

You  mentioned  mutual  friends  of  Norman.  Who  were  those  mutual 
friends  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  Other  people  in  the  Canadian  diplomatic  service,  I 
mean  people  in  our  service  who  had  served  in  Japan.  Mr.  John 
Holmes,  who  was  the  Deputy  Under  Secretary  of  State  for  Canada 
and  who  is  a  friend  of  mine  and  whom  I  knew  in  Moscow  and  whom  I 
have  seen  a  great  deal  of  at  the  United  Nations  General  Assembly 
sessions. 

We  have  spoken  of  Mr.  Norman  on  a  number  of  occasions  certainly. 

Mr.  Morris.  I  think  we  have  covered.  Senators,  the  information  that 
is  in  our  public  record  with  respect  to  Mr.  Emmerson. 

Senator  Watkins.  Is  there  anything  else  that  you  want  to  ask  him 
about  ? 

Do  you  have  any  other  information  ? 

Mr.  Morris.  I  will  tell  you.  Senator,  this  was  all  prepared  just  with- 
in the  framework  of  our  going  over  what  was  in  our  public  record.  I 
have  made  it  clear,  Senator,  this  is  not  an  adverse  proceeding.  We 
are  not  investigating  Mr.  Emmerson,  but  these  things  are  in  our  record 


SCOPE    OF    SOVIET   ACTIVITY    IN   THE    UNITED    STATES      3665 

and  we  feel  our  record  won't  be  complete  unless  we  ask  him  about 
them.  I  think  I  have  covered  the  important  points  that  are  in  our 
records. 

If  you  can  think  of  anything  in  our  record  that  you  would  like  to 

address  yourself  to 

Mr.  Emmerson.  If  I  could  just  say  a  few  words  about  my  subsequent 
service. 

Senator  Jenner.  You  may. 

Mr.  Emmerson.  I  would  like  to  say  that  I  have  already  stated  that 
when  I  came  back  from  China  in  1945  I  had  already  begun  to  learn  a 
little  more  about  communism  and  about  the  strategy  and  tactics  of  the 
Communist  Party. 

I  specifically,  in  1945,  sought  out  Mr.  Eay  Murphy,  whom  you  gentle- 
men may  know  as  a  Soviet  expert  in  the  Department  of  State,  and  we 
discussed  the  matter  at  length. 

He  was  extremely  interested  in  my  experience  in  Coriinuinist  China, 
and  I  was  interested  in  talking  with  him.  He  gave  me  a  nmnber  of 
materials  on  communism  which  I  read.  All  of  this  again  is  a  matter 
of  record  in  testimony  whicli  was  given  in  1952. 

Mv.  INIurphy  testified  in  person  at  my  hearing.  In  1947  I^  was 
assigned  to  INIoscow  and  I  had  2  years  experience  in  the  Soviet  Union 
which  I  think  is  the  best  course  one  can  have  in  the  practice  of  Soviet 
communism. 

Certainly  in  all  of  the  period  of  my  service  since  the  war,  I  have 
been  in  positions  where  the  Communist  menace  has  been  one  of  our 
primary  considerations. 

I  served  for  21/^  years  in  Pakistan  and  I  was  charge  d'affaires  in 
Karachi  for  a  period  of  more  than  8  months,  and  I  happened  to  be 
charge  d'affaires  when  we  signed  the  Military  Aid  Agreement  with 
Pakistan.  My  signature  is  on  that  agreement  as  well  as  that  of  the 
Foreign  Minister. 

I  was  extremely  interested  in  the  development  of  the  Northern  Tier 
concept. 

Senator  Watkins.  Did  you  take  part  in  those  negotiations  ? 

]Mr.  EmxAieksox.  I  took  part  in  the  negotiations  in  Karachi. 

Senator  Watkixs.  Did  you  work  with  Mr.  Dulles  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  J\Ir.  Dulles  visited  Karachi  while  I  was  there  in 
1953. 

Senator  Watktns.  Who  carried  the  burden  of  those  negotiations? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  I  had  been  charge  d'affaires  between  Ambassadors. 
Ambassador  Warren  left  in  November  of  1952,  and  Ambassador  Hild- 
reth  did  not  take  charge  of  the  Embassy  until  August  of  1953,  so  that 
I  was  in  charge  of  the  Embassy  during  that  period,  and  whatever 
negotiations  took  place  in  Karachi  I  was  the  one  who  took  charge  of 
those  negotiations. 

Senator  Watktns.  How  old  are  you  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  I  am  49.    I  w-ill  be  49  the  I7th  of  March. 

Senator  Watkins.  How  long  have  you  been  in  service  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  I  have  been  in  the  service  since  1935. 

Senator  Watkins.  You  would  have  been  about  28  when  you  were 
in  China? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  That  is  right. 

Senator  Watkins.  I  would  say  this:  It  seems  to  me  that  if  there 
is  any  susj^icion  about  you  whatsoever  th&j  certainly'  entrusted  you 

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3666       SCOPE    OF    SOVIET    ACTIVITY    IN    THE    UNITED    STATES 

with  some  very  important  matters  in  connection  with  the  buiklino; 
up  of  the  SEATO  Pact. 

Mr.  Emmerson.  From  Karachi  I  went  to  Beirut  and  certainly  we 
in  Lo])anon  believe  that  that  is  one  of  the  most  important  posts  in  the 
Near  East. 

Everythino-  comes  in  and  out  of  Lebanon,  and  Lebanon  is  the  mirror, 
the  i-eflection  of  the  political  events. 

Senator  Jenner.  When  did  you  go  to  Beirut  ? 

INIr.  Emaierson.  In  1955 ;  1  went  in  May  of  1955. 

Senator  Jenner.  1955.  After  you  left  Karachi  where  was  your 
service  ? 

Mr,  Emmerson.  To  Beirut,  from  Karachi  I  went  directly  to  Beirut. 

Senator  .Jenner.  I  misimderstood. 

Mv.  Emmerson.  I  was  in  Karachi  from  October  of  1952  until  May 
of  1955. 

Senator  Jenner.  I  see, 

Mr.  Emmerson.  Then  I  went  to  Beirut.  I  was  again  in  charge  of 
the  Embassy  for  more  than  6  months  while  the  Ambassador  attended 
the  United  Nations.  That  was  tlie  period  of  the  Soviet  arms  deal 
with  Egypt.  It  was  a  period  of  great  tension  in  the  Middle  East 
when  we  were  extremel}^  concerned  with  the  Soviet  penetration  which 
had  already  started,  and  has  been  extremely  active  and  very  evident 
even  in  a  country  such  as  Lebanon. 

Senator  Watkins.  Did  you  know  Cavendish  Cannon? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  Yes. 

Senator  Watkins.  How  well  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  I  never  served  with  him,  but  I  saw  him  last  in 
Athens  about  a  year  ago. 

Senator  Watkins.  Just  about  a  year  before  he  was  transferred 
over? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  Yes.  I  also  knew  him  in  the  Department  when  he 
was  serving  on  the  policy  planning  staff.  That  was  a  period  wlien 
I  was  the  policy  planning  adviser  for  l>ureau  of  Far  Eastern  Afl'airs 
and  had  a  good  deal  to  do  with  the  Policy  Planning  Board,  appeared 
frequently  there  and  got  well  acquainted  with  Ambassador  Cannon 
at  that  time. 

Senator  Watkins.  You  know  him  quite  well  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  Yes,  sir. 

Senator  Jenner.  If  there  are  no  further  questions,  I  will  admonish 
everyone  here  that  this  is  an  executive  session  and  this  session  was 
held  for  the  purposes  Mr.  Morris  explained,  to  complete  our  record 
on  these  very  important  matters,  and  we  thank  you  for  appearing  here, 
Mr.  Emmerson. 

]\Ir.  Emmerson.  Thank  you,  sir. 

(Whereupon,  at  3:30  p.  m.,  the  subcommittee  was  adjourned.) 


SCOPE  OF  SOVIET  ACTIVITY  IN  THE  UNITED  STATES 

The  following  testimony  was  made  public  March  28, 1957,  by  resolu- 
tion of  the  subcommittee. 

THURSDAY,   MARCH  21,    1957 

United  States  Sexati:, 
Subcommittee  To  In^'estigate  the  Administration 

or  THE  Internal  Security  Act  and  Other 

Internal  Security  Laws,  of  the 
Committee  on  the  Judiciary, 

Washington,  D.  C. 

The  subcommittee  met,  pursuant  to  notice,  at  10: 15  a.  m.,  in  room 
424,  Senate  Office  Building,  Senator  Arthur  V.  Watkins  presidmg. 

Also  present:  Robert  Morris,  chief  counsel;  J.  G.  Sourwine,  associ- 
ate counsel;  William  A.  Rusher,  associate  counsel;  Benjamin  Mandel, 
research  director;  Robert  Mcj\Ianus,  investigations  analyst. 

Senator  Watkins.  The  committee  will  come  to  order. 

Mr,  Morris.  Senator,  the  witness  has  been  sworn. 

Senator  Watkins.  In  a  previous  session  ? 

Mr.  JSIoRRis.  That  is  right.  Senator.  lie  has  come  back  to  make 
certain  changes  in  the  record  here  today.  Senator. 

Senator  Watkins.  All  right. 

TESTIMONY  OF  JOHN  K.  EMMERSON,  DEPUTY  CHIEF  OF  MISSION 
AND  COUNSELOR  OF  EMBASSY,   BEIRUT,  LEBANON— Resumed 

Mr.  Morris.  Mr.  Emmerson,  what  changes  would  you  like  to  have 
made  in  this  record  that  you  made  ? 

]Mr.  Emmerson.  Well,  may  1  just  say  that  after  the  session,  first, 
I  realized  immediately  I  had  made  a  mistake  in  dates,  in  saying  that 
1  had  left  Beirut  on  the  same  day  that  I  had  the  meeting  with  Mr. 
Norman.    I  believe  I  mentioned  that  to  Judge  Morris  after  the  session. 

The  fact  is  I  left  Beirut  on  October  28,  and  I  saw  Mr.  Norman  on 
October  27. 

Mr.  NoRRis.  Now,  you  say  you  told  me  tliat  before,  Mr.  Emmerson  ? 

Mr.  EaiMERSON.  I  believe  I  mentioned  to  you  in  the  corridor,  right 
after  the  session — that  I  had  recognized  there  w\as  a  mistake  in  date, 
and  that  I  had  not  left  Beirut  on  the  same  day  as  my  meeting  with 
Mr.  Norman,  but  on  the  succeeding  day,  and  I  verified  that  with  my 
persona]  records. 

The  other  point  is  that,  after  I  began  to  think  over  the  testimony 
which  I  had  given  with  respect  to  this  meeting,  I  recognized  that  I 
had  not  given  some  of  the  details  which  would  fill  in  the  circumstances 
of  the  meeting,  and  therefore  I  wish  to  have  the  opportunity  to  am- 
plify, in  order  that  there  be  no  mistaken  impression  about  the  meeting. 

3667 


3668       SCOPE    OF    SOVIET    ACTIVITY    IN    THE    UNITED    STATES 

In  the  first  place,  I  was  asked  whether  I  had  ever  corresponded 
with  Mr,  Xornian,  and  I  said  that  I  had  not. 

Mr.  Morris.  Yes. 

I  think  on  page  2045  of  the  official  transcript,  Senator,  Mr.  Em- 
merson  was  asked  by  Senator  Jenner :  "You  have  not  been  correspond- 
ing at  all?"' — and  Mr.  Emmerson  said,  "No,  we  have  never  corre- 
sponded." 

Now,  you  want  to  make  a  change  in  that  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  I  want  to  say  that  it  is  true  we  have  never  carried 
on  any  correspondence.  But  I  would  just  like  to  make  two  points  so 
there  is  no  mistaken  impression. 

In  the  first  place,  I  think  the  Normans  are  on  our  Christmas  card 
list,  and  I  believe  we  have  exchanged  Christmas  cards. 

In  the  second  place,  I  completely  forgot  at  the  meeting  that  I  had 
received  a  letter  from  him  in  the  spring  of  1956,  written  from  Welling- 
tion.  New  Zealand,  saying  he  expected  to  be  transferred  to  Cairo,  and 
that  he  looked  f  orA^'ard  to  seeing  me  in  Beirut. 

To  the  best  of  my  recollection,  I  acknowledged  that  letter  and  said 
that  I  would  be  happy  to  see  him  when  he  came  to  Beirut  and  hoped 
that  lie  would  spend  considerable  time  there  during  the  course  of  his 
duties. 

Then,  I  would  like  to  give  a  little  more  of  the  details  with  respect  to 
my  seeing  him  on  October  27.  I  do  not  Ivuow  how  he  first  learned 
that  I  was  in  Beirut,  but  I  assume  that  he  had  learned  it  from  col- 
leagues. 

I  may  say  also  that  at  the  same  time,  either  before  or  after  the  letter 
from  Mr.  Norman,  I  received  another  letter  from  Mr.  Brewster  Morris, 
who  is  a  Foreign  Service  officer,  and  who  was  detailed  as  an  inspector 
in  New  Zealand,  at  that  time,  saying  he  and  his  wife  had  met  the 
Noimans,  and  that  the  Normans  were  coming  to  Cairo  and  would 
also  be  coming  to  Beirut. 

]Mr.  oVroRRis.  Did  he  say  when  ? 

Mr.  Emmersox.  I  think  he  may  have  said  after  home  leave,  within 
a  few  months,  because  I  believe  the  Normans  proceeded  to  Canada 
and  spent  some  time  there  before  they  arrived  in  Beirut — I  mean,  in 
Cairo — and  I  am  not  sure  that  they  did  not  arrive  in  Cairo. 

But  may  I  say  that  the  Canadian  Legation  in  Beirut  is  normally 
in  charge  of  a  resident  Charge  d'Affaires,  the  Minister  living  in  Cairo. 
The  present  Charge  d'AlTaires  is  Mr.  Lionel  Roy — R-o-y — and,  of 
course,  I  see  him  very  frequently  at  diplomatic  functions,  both  of- 
ficially and  socially.  So  that  I  learned  from  him  that  Mr.  and  Mrs. 
Norman  were  arriving  by  ship  on  the  morning  of  October  27. 

Then,  when  I  found  out  that  I  had  orders  to  come  back  to  the 
United  States  for  the  United  Nations  and  would  be  leaving  on  the 
28th,  I  mentioned  to  Mr.  Roy  that  I  had  known  the  Normans  before 
and  that  we  would  be  happy  to  see  them,  if  it  were  possible,  on  the 
day  of  the  27th.  And  I  believe  that  on  probably  the  26th  I  sent  a  note 
to  Mr.  Roy,  and  whether  I  enclosed  a  note  to  Mr.  Norman  inside  or 
not,  I  cannot  remember. 

In  any  case,  I  suggested  that  the  Normans  drop  by  our  house  for 
lunch,  if  possible,  on  the  day  of  October  27th. 

So  that,  during  the  morning  of  the  27th,  we  received  word  by  tele- 
phone or  note,  I  cannot  remember — and  also,  my  wife  may  have  gone 


SCOPE    OF    SOVIET   ACTIVITY    IN    THE    UNITED    STATES       3669 

to  the  boat  that  morning,  although  that  I  cannot  verify.    She  is  in 
Beirut. 

In  any  case,  we  received  word  that  they  would  come  by,  and  they 
did  at  about  1  o'clock.  We  live  in  a  penthouse  apartment,  and  we 
showed  them  around  the  apartment,  and  we  had  cocktails,  w^e  had 
lunch,  and  they  left,  I  think  about  3  o'clock. 

Now,  I  just  wanted  to  be  completely  sure  that  the  details  of  this 
meeting  were  clarified  so  that  there  would  not  be  any  miscomprehen- 
sion about  the  nature  of  the  occasion,  which  was  entirely  a  social  one. 

And  so  far  as  my  conversation  with  Mr.  Norman  is  concerned,  it 
is  generally  as  I  reported  it  the  other  day.  I  cannot  recall  any  signifi- 
cant points  in  the  conversation.  I  do  remember  that  he  referred  to  his 
clearance  in  1951,  and  that  he  referred  to  the  fact  that  he  had  supplied 
an  affidavit  with  respect  to  this  interrogation  of  Japanese  prisoners  of 
war,  which  I  spoke  about  to  the  committee  the  other  day. 

Mr.  Morris.  You  mean,  you  discussed  the  clearance  at  that  session  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  It  was  mentioned,  yes;  that  is  right.  And  I  got 
the  impression  from  him  that  as  far  as  he  was  concerned,  he  assumed 
that  the  matter  was  closed  and  there  would  be  no  further  developments. 

I  may  say  it  has  been  about  10  years  smce  I  had  seen  Mr,  Norman 
before  this  occasion  in  Beirut. 

Senator  Watkins.  How  well  did  you  know  him  when  you  were  in 
Japan  ? 

Sir.  Emmerson.  Well,  I  knew  him  fairly  well  in  the  period  from 
September  of  1945  until  February  of  1910,  because,  as  I  said  before, 
he  was  in  the  counter  intelligence  section,  working  on  Japanese  af- 
fairs, and  I  was  in  the  political  adviser's  office.  We  had  a  great 
many 

Senator  Watkins.  Well,  now,  was  he  in  the  same  service  that  you 
were  in  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  No;  he  was  lent  by  the  Canadian  Government  to 
SCAP,  to  MacArthur's  headquarters,  to  the  counter  intelligence  sec- 
tion of  MacArthur's  headquarters. 

Senator  Watkins.  And  you  were  working  in  that  same 

Mr.  Emmerson.  No.  I  was  in  the  political  adviser's  office,  but  also 
attached  to  MacArthur's  headquarters.  We  were  in  two  separate 
sections,  but  both  under  the  direction  of  General  MacArthur,  of 
SCAP. 

Senator  Watkins.  Well,  how  closely  were  you  associated  in  those 
duties  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  We  were  associated  because  we  were  working  on 
similar  projects.  That  is,  you  may  recall  that  in  the  first  months  of 
the  occupation,  the  whole  emphasis  was  on  determining  the  individuals 
who  had  been  responsible  for  the  prosecution  of  the  war,  and  on  fer- 
reting out  the  organizations  which  had  contributed  to  the  war. 

The  war  crime  trials  were  in  the  process  of  preparation,  and  the 
headquarters  was  engaged  in  carrying  out  what  was  known  as  the 
purge  directive,  in  which  all  those  persons  who  had  occupied  positions 
of  leadership  in  Japan,  which  had  prosecuted  the  war,  were  purged 
from  public  office. 

So  that  the  Counter  Intelligence  Corps,  naturally,  had  considerable 
duties  with  respect  to  reporting  on  political  developments  and  on 
individuals. 


3670       SCOPE    OF    SOVIET    ACTIVITY    IN    THE    UNITED    STATES 

I,  as  a  member  of  the  political  adviser's  office,  had  the  responsibility, 
which  was  by  specific  directive  of  General  MacArthur,  to  write  a 
weekly  report  on  political  party  developments  in  Japan,  which  meant 
that  it  was  necessary  for  me  to  find  out  as  much  as  I  could  about  the 
differcMit  political  personalities  and  the  different  parties,  from  the 
right  to  the  left. 

So  that,  because  of  the  similarity  of  our  duties,  and  the  fact  that 
both  of  us  spoke  Japanese,  we  did  come  into  very  frequent  contact. 

Senator  Watkins.  Well,  you  had  known  each  other  previously  ? 
^  Mr.  Emmerson.  We  had  known  each  other  previously ;   that  is 
right. 

Senator  Watkins.  Well,  now,  you  know  about  the  testimony  of 
Mr.  Dooman  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  With  respect  to  the  prisoner-of-war  interrogation; 
that  is  right. 

Senator  Watkins.  And  the  fact  that  these  prisoners  of  war  had 
been  paraded  through  the  streets  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  'Well,  I  think  I  spoke  of  that  the  other  day  in  the 
hearing. 

Senator  Watkins.  You  said  the  statement  of  Mr.  Dooman,  about 
certain  elements  of  that,  was  completely  false  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  The  fact  that  we  were  supposed  to  have  liberated 
prisoners  of  war  and  driven  them  to  their  homes,  that  is  false.  I  did 
not  participate  in  any  operation  of  that  sort. 

I  think  that  his  testimony  arises  out  of  a  misunderstanding  of  what 
was  an  official  interrogation  operation.  And  the  only  association  I 
had  with  that  was  two  trips  to  the  prison,  the  first  one  to  find  out 
whether  indeed  there  were  political  prisoners.  I  may  say  here  these 
were  not  all  Communists ;  part  of  them  were  Communists,  part  were 
members  of  religious  sects,  other  organizations,  that  had  been  in 
prison  for  political  reasons. 

We  then  returned  to  headquarters  and  reported  the  fact  that  these 
individuals  were  there.  The  suggestion  was  made  that  they  be  brought 
to  headquarters  for  interrogation,  and  that  order  was  given  by  General 
Thorpe,  who  was  in  charge  of  counterintelligence. 

Senator  Watkins.  Were  you  canning  out  those  orders  to  bring 
them  up  there  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  That  is  right. 

Senator  Watkins.  Who  did  you  take  up  there  to  the  headquarters  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  You  mean,  the  names  of  the  prisoners  ? 

Senator  Watkins.  Yes. 

Mr.  Emmerson.  I  can  only  recall  the  names  of  two,  Tokuda— 
T-o-k-u-d-a — and  Shiga,  S-h-i-g-a — who  were  very  prominent,  well- 
known  Japanese  Communists.  There  were  others  there  who  were 
not  labeled  as  Communists.  I  have  forgotten  exactly  the  names.  I 
think  there  may  have  been  4  or  5  individuals  who  were  interrogated. 

Now,  those  interrogations  were  conducted  in  headquarters  by 
officers  of  headquarters.  Mr.  Norman  and  I  participated,  since  we 
both  spoke  Japanese,  and  it  wns  felt  more  desirable  to  have  interro- 
gations by  Americans,  or  Mr.  Norman,  who  was  a  Canadian,  but  was 
assigned  to  headquarters,  than  nisei — that  is,  the  second-generation 
Japanese. 

Reports  of  all  those  interrogations  were,  of  course,  made  to  the^ 
headquarters  and  are  a  matter  of  record. 


SCOPE    OF    SOVIET   ACTIVITY   EST    THE    UNITED    STATES      3671 

Senator  Watkins.  Well,  now,  let  me  ask  you : 

Did  Mr.  Dooman  have  any  part  in  this  activity  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  No,  Mr.  Dooman  was  not  in  Japan,  and  I  think  he 
so  testified — that  this  information  had  come  to  him  from  second-  or 
third-hand  sources.     He  was  not  in  Japan  at  that  time. 

Senator  Watkins.  He  was  not  in  a  position  to  see  what  went  on  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  That  is  right ;  he  was  not  in  a  position  to  see. 

Senator  Watkins.  Had  no  active  connection  with  it  whatsoever,  as 
far  as  you  are  concerned  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  As  far  as  I  am  concerned,  he  had  no  active  con- 
nection with  it  whatsoever.  He  was  not  in  Japan,  and  I  believe  he  so 
states  in  his  testimony. 

Senator  Watkins.  I  have  not  read  his  testimony  for  a  long  time, 
and  I  do  not  remember  what  he  said. 

I  noticed  in  your  statement  you  called  to  the  attention  of  the  witness 
that  Mr.  Dooman  said  that  he  was 

Mr.  Morris.  Mr.  Dooman  said  he  had  not  been  there,  and  he  heard 
it  after  he  arrived  in  Japan. 

And  I  think  the  two  Japanese  Communists  who  had  been  liberated 
have  written  about  this  episode  in  a  book,  haven't  they  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  They  have ;  that  is  right. 

Mr.  Morris.  Do  you  remember  what  they  said  in  that  book  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  I  recall,  I  believe,  Shiga  wrote  a  book — and  a  quo- 
tation is  included  in  Mr.  Dooman's  testimony — and  he  mentions  the 
fact  that  their  first  contact  with  the  outside  world  after  the  end  of 
the  war  was  with  the  2  or  3  correspondents — an  American,  Mr.  Harold 
Isaacs,  and  two  others  were  French.     Their  names  I  cannot  recall. 

And  he  said  tliey  came  to  the  prison  and  talked  to  him.  Then  he 
said  next,  I  believe  he  says — he  mentions  my  name,  I  believe — he 
mentions  Mr.  Emmerson,  Mr.  Norman,  and  Lieutenant  Colonel  Davis 
came.  And  he  does  not  describe  this  interrogation  in  the  head- 
quarters, and  he  does  not  say,  so  far  as  I  recall  he  does  not  say,  any- 
thing about  our  liberating  them  or  driving  them  to  their  homes — 
any  thing  of  that  sort. 

Now,  I  have  refreshed  my  memory  on  the  dates.  The  directive — 
General  MacArthur's  directive  which  liberated  all  political  prisoners 
and  established  freedom  of  speech  and  press,  and  so  on,  was  issued 
on  October  4,  1945.  As  I  recall,  our  first  visit  to  the  prison  was  on 
October  5,  after  the  directive  had  been  issued. 

And  Shiga  says  something  in  his  book,  that  "Mr.  Emmerson  and  Mr. 
Norman  told  us  about  the  policies  of  SCAP,"  and  Mr.  Dooman  seems 
to  put  some  special  significance  to  that. 

Well,  the  policies  of  SCAP  had  been  published,  tliey  were  on  the 
radio  the  night  before,  and  were  in  the  papers  that  morning  with  this 
directive.  So  that  if  we  told  them  about  that,  we  were  telling  them 
something  which  had  been  published. 

So  that  I  do  not  believe  there  is  any  mystery  about  this  operation. 
It  was  fully  documented  in  the  headquarters  of  SCAP,  and  I  wrote  a 
special  to  the  State  Department  about  it  describing  it  in  detail,  and 
including  copies  of  the  interrogations  in  which  I  participated. 

Mr.  Morris.  That  is  your  testimony,  Mr.  Emmerson;  you  did  not 
bring  the  Japanese  Communists  in  staff  cars,  you  did  not  drive  them 
in  staff  cars  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  I  did  not  drive  them.  Now,  they  were  brought 
from  the  prison  to  the  headquarters  in  staff  cars. 


3672       SCOPE    OF    SOVIET    ACTIYITY    IN    THE    UNITED    STATES 

Mr.  Morris.  You  did  not  accompany  them  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  I  was  in  one  of  the  cars  when  it  came  back. 

Senator  Watkins.  How  many,  would  you  say,  were  brought  up  to 
headquarters  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  As  I  recall  it,  maybe  5,  5  or  6. 

Senator  Watkiks.  These  prisoners  were  all  together  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  Yes. 

Mr.  Morris.  Were  they  all  Communists? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  I  do  not  believe  so.  I  think  that  about  three  were 
Communists,  and  maybe  one  was  Korean.  Whether  he  was  a  Korean 
Communist  or  not,  I  do  not  recall. 

Mr.  Morris.  Do  you  remember  his  name  ? 

Mr.  Emmersox.  Kim — I  cannot  remember  exactly. 

I  think  there  was  another  one  who  belonged  to  one  of  these  sects 
which  had  been  outlawed  by  the  Japanese. 

Senator  Watkiks.  Well,  now,  with  reference  to  Mr.  Norman,  I  think 
this  committee  wants  to  know,  and  the  country  wants  to  know,  at 
least  the  representatives  of  the  country  charged  with  the  responsi- 
bility, if  there  is  anything  about  his  conduct  that  would  indicate 
that  he  was  a  Communist  and  was  v\-oi'iv;in.g  on  behalf  of  the  Connnu- 
nist  nations,  or  the  Communist  conspiracy  as  they  sometimes  call  it. 

I  assume  you  would  be  just  as  interested,  as  a  loyal  American,  in 
finding  that  out  and  giving  us  any  information  that  you  would  have. 

Mr.  Emmerson.  That  is  right. 

Senator  Watkins.  Any  information  with  respect  to  his  conduct  that 
might  indicate  that  he  was  not  what  he  pretended  to  be. 

Mr.  Emmerson.  That  is  right ;  I  certainly  would. 

Senator  Watkins.  Can  you  think  of  anytliing  now  in  your  relation- 
ship with  him  that  would  indicate  that  he  was  not  loyal  to  his  country, 
or  loyal  to  the  free  nations  of  the  world  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  I  have  thought  a  great  deal,  naturally,  about  my 
associations  with  him  and  about  the  conversations  I  have  had  with 
him. 

I  can  recall  one  conversation  in  Tokyo,  which  for  some  reason  has 
stuck  in  my  mind,  which  I  had  in  the  meantime  forgotten. 

We  were  interviewing  a  Japanese,  and — I  cannot  remember^  his 
nam.e — I  believe  he  was  a  Socialist,  a  member  of  one  of  the  factions 
of  the  Japanese  Socialist  Party.  He  was  not  identified  as  a  Commu- 
nist. Of  course,  one  can  never  be  sure  whether  a  person  is  a  Commu- 
nist or  not.  But  as  I  recall  it,  he  declared  himself  to  be  a  Socialist,  and 
he  was  giving  us  a  history  of  the  Japanese  Socialist  movement  and 
its  various  factions  and  the  personalities  involved. 

And  I  recall  at  one  point  in  the  conversation  that  Mr.  Norman  made 
some  statement  which  appeared  to  agree  with  the  general  thesis  which 
this  man  was  proposing.  I  have  tried  to  reconstruct  this  conversation, 
and  I  do  not  believe  I  can  be  any  more  specific. 

I  know  that  it  struck  me,  because  it  never  occurred  to  me,  in  any 
interview  with  a  member  of  any  political  party,  to  express  any  view 
whatsoever  concerning  what  he  was  saying.  I  mean,  I  have  Jiad  as- 
sociation with  a  great  many  people  of  all  political  hues,  and  it  never 
would  occur  to  me  to  express  agreement  with  some  political  view 
which  the  other  individual  is  pointing  out. 


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And  I  do  remember  that  one  occasion,  when  this  struck  me  as  being 
unusual.  But  it  did  not  indicate  to  me  that  Mr.  Norman  was  a  member 
of  the  Communist  Party,  or  that  he  was  a  Communist. 

I  have  said  in  m}'  testimony  that  he  seemed  to  be  a  person  of  "liberal 
ideas" — you  have  to  put  that  in  quotation  marks — he  was  interested  in 
lef twing  movements  in  Japan. 

Again,  I  say  that  durhig  that  period  the  entire  emphasis  was  on 
finding  out  what  the  rightwing  people  were  doing,  and  that  the  shift 
to  an  interest  in  communism  occurred,  I  think,  in  1946,  or  in  the  early 
part  of  1946. 

Senator  Watkins.  jSTow,  this  matter  of  your  relationship  with  Dr. 
Norman  has  been  gone  into,  has  it  not,  in  the  hearings  that  were  held 
in  the  State  Department  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  That  is  right;  in  1952. 

Senator  Watkins.  Did  they  go  into  that  very  fully  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  The}^  went  into  it- 
Senator  Watkins.  Completely  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  Fairly  completely. 

As  I  said  then,  and  as  I  have  said  now,  I  am  sure  that  if  there  had 
been  any  incident  or  expression  of  his  which  indicated  that  he  was  a 
member  of  the  Communist  Party,  or  that  he  was  a  Communist,  I 
certainly  would  have  noticed  it,  and,  of  course,  it  would  have  been 
my  duty  to  report  it. 

Senator  Watkins.  Now,  going  back  to  this  visit  you  had  with  him 
and  his  wife  in  Beirut 

Mr.  Emmerson.  In  Beirut ;  that  is  right. 

Senator  Watkins.  "Wliat  did  you  talk  about  ?  Can  you  recall  what 
the  substance  of  your  conversation  was  during  the  period  of  time  that 
he  was  visiting  at  your  home? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  Well,  in  addition  to  the  usual  amenities  and  discus- 
sion of  our  posts  in  the  meantime,  since  we  had  not  seen  each  other  for 
about  10  years.  I  can  recall  that  we  did  discuss  the  general  situation 
in  the  Middle  East.  And  he  had  been  in  Cairo  only  a  short  time,  and 
had  therefore  very  brief  experience  in  the  Middle  East. 

I  cannot  remember  any  specific  opinions  of  his  which  would  have 
struck  me  as  being  unusual. 

I  know  that  several  weeks  previous  to  this  meeting  I  had  met  Mr. 
Joseph  Fromm,  who  was  a  correspondent  for  U.  S.  News  &  World 
Report  in  Beirut.  He  had  just  come  from  Cairo.  He  had  seen  Am- 
bassador Norman,  whom  he  had  known  in  the  Far  East,  and  he  men- 
tioned to  me  that  Mr.  Norman,  with  his  usual  scholarly  interest, 
had  already  learned  a  great  deal  about  the  Arab  world,  that  he  had 
read  widely  in  the  literature  of  the  Near  East,  and  that  he  already 
had  a  very  broad  knowledge  of  the  background  of  the  Arab  world. 
He  did  not  mention  anything  or  indicate  any  expression  which  would 
have  borne  on  this  problem  of  Mr.  Norman's  Communist  sympathies. 

Senator  Watkins.  You  did  get  into  a  conversation  about  the  charge 
that  had  been  made  against  Mr.  Norman,  did  you  not  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  Since  we  had  not  seen  each  other  for  about  10 
years,  and  he  had  furnished  this  affidavit  with  respect  to  the  prisoner 
of  war  interrogation,  that  was  mentioned. 


3674       SCOPE    OF    SOVIET    ACTIVITY    IN    THE    UNITED    STATES 

Senator  Watkins.  Well,  you  see,  as  I  understand,  both  you  and 
Mr.  Norman  have  been  under  some  criticism,  the  subject  of  some 
criticism 

Mr.  Emmerson.  That  is  right. 

Senator  Watkins.  Because  of  the  charge  that  you  were  either  a 
Communist,  or  had  been  favoring  the  Communist  cause,  or  had  simi- 
lar views  to  the  Communists.  The  whole  subject  had  been  investi- 
gated, both  in  the  United  States  with  respect  to  you,  and  in  Canada 
with  respect  to  Mr.  Norman  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  That  is  right. 

Senator  Watkins.  Now,  you  did  have  a  conversation  about  that 
situation,  didn't  you  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  Yes.  He  mentioned  the  fact  that  there  had  been 
charges  made  against  him,  that  he  had  gone  through  quite  a  period 
of  investigation,  and  that  he  had  been  cleared  and  that  he  assumed 
the  situation  was  closed. 

Senator  Watkins.  Did  he  say  anything  to  you  about  charges  that 
had  been  made  by  Professor  Wittf og:el  ? 

Mr.  Morris.  Senator,  Professor  Wittfogel  did  not  make  any  charges. 
He  was  testifying. 

Senator  Watkins.  I  mean,  a  statement  made  that  Dr.  Norman,  as 
a  young  student,  had  been  a  member  of  a  Communist  cell  at  Columbia 
University  ? 

Mr.  Morris.  The  professor  was  a  teacher  of 

Senator  Watkins.  Yes ;  he  was  a  teacher  of  the  group.  And  he  was 
in  the  cell  with  him,  wasn't  he  ? 

Mr.  Morris.  No  ;  he  had  been  a  Communist,  and  when  he  came  to 
the  United  States,  because  he  was  such  a  specialist  and  the  Com- 
munists still  considered  him  very  favorably,  they  used  him  to  teach 
their  young  groups,  young  Communist  groups,  on  Far  Eastern  affairs. 

Senator  Watkins.  Well,  I  have  not  reviewed  the  testimony  recently, 
only  what  mention  was  made  the  other  day 

Mr.  Morris.  He  said  expressly.  Senator — we  asked  him  at  great 
length  and  with  great  precision  whether  or  not.  in  fact,  Norman  was 
at  that  time  a  member  of  the  Communist  Party,  and  he  said  in  great 
detail,  yes,  he  was. 

Senator  Watkins.  Now,  was  Professor  Wittfogel  a  member  of  the 
Communist  cell  himself  ? 

Mr.  Morris.  No  ;  he  was  the  teacher  that  the  Communists  assigned 
to  teach  the  cell. 

Senator  Watkins.  I  realize  that,  but  was  he  at  anv  time  a  member 
of  that  cell? 

Mr.  Morris.  He  was  a  professor ;  he  was  not  in  the  cell.  It  was  a 
cell  of  students. 

Senator  Watkins.  The  reason  was,  I  wanted  to  find  out  the  basis 
of  his  knowledge,  just  what  he  did  know  about  it,  and  how  much  was 
hearsay  and  how  much  was  his  own  knowledge. 

Mr,  Morris,  He  was  the  teacher  that  went  to  the  cell ;  he  was  the 
one  who  taught  the  group,  day  to  day  or  week  to  week,  whenever  meet- 
ings were  held. 

Senator  Watkins,  Well,  I  will  have  to  go  back  to  his  testimony. 
But  I  want  to  be  sure  about  this,  because  it  was  rather  a  grave  charge, 
and,  since  we  have  not  had  the  man  who  was  named  before  us,  we 
have  had  to  rely  pretty  much  on  what  the  professor  said  about  it. 


SCOPE    OF    SOVIET    ACTIVITY    IN    THE    UNITED    STATES      3675 

Mr.  Morris.  The  only  thing,  Senator,  is  that,  since  this  is  a  record, 
I  would  not  like  the  record  to  show  this  was  a  charge,  because  Pro- 
fessor Wittfogel  is  a  very  distinguished  professor,  and  he  was  here 
under  subpena,  responding  to  questions.  So  he  was  not  making 
charges;  he  was  answering  the  questions  of  the  subcommittee. 

Senator  Watkins.  I  referred  to  it  in  the  sense  that  ;i  man  would 
say,  "This  man  is  a  Communist,"  and  "So-and-so  is  a  Communist." 
When  you  say  that,  that  is  in  effect  making  a  charge,  under  modern 
conditions  and  under  the  general  feeling  of  the  public. 

Mr.  Morris.  But,  on  behalf  of  his  academic  career,  I  think  the 
record  should  indicate 

Senator  Watkins.  Maybe  so.    Maybe  there  is  a  distinction.^ 

Mr.  Morris.  Senator,  I  also  think  it  is  appropriate  at  this  time  to 
mention  that  I  have  since  spoken  to  Professor  Wittfogel,  since  last 
week,  and  he  said  that  to  this  day  no  official  of  the  Canadian  Govern- 
ment has  ever  called  him  up  or  asked  him  whether  or  not  any  of  his 
testimony  was,  in  fact,  accurate. 

Senator  Watkins.  I  see.  Well,  that  is  very  interesting.  It  may 
have  some  significance. 

Mr.  Morris.  In  connection  with  that,  did  he  ever  say — that  is,  Mr. 
Norman — in  connection  with  his  conversation  that  he  had  with  you, 
did  he  say  that  he  had  been  asked  whether  or  not  he  had  ever  been  a 
member  of  the  Communist  Party  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  I  do  not  recall  that  he  said  that.  I  think  he  spoke 
in  very  general  terms  about  charges  having  been  made  against  him, 
and  it  was  his  attitude  that  these  were  completely  unfounded  charges 
and  that  he  had  gone  through  a  period  of  investigation  and  been 
cleared.  And  I  cannot  specifically  remember  that  he  mentioned  Pro- 
fessor Wittfogel's  name. 

Mr.  Morris.  Senator,  in  that  connection,  we  asked  the  State  Depart- 
ment if  the  decision  of  the  Canadian  Government  ever  was — the  com- 
munication from  the  Canadian  Government  ever  was  to  the  effect  that 
they  discovered  that  Norman  had  been  a  Communist  and  that  he  is 
no  longer  one.  The  Department  has  informed  us  that  that  has  never 
been  the  effect  of  any  advice  given  to  them  by  the  Canadian  Govern- 
ment. 

It  would  be  two  entirely  different  things.  Senator,  if  the  answer  was 
"Yes;  he  was  a  Communist,  but  he  has  reformed."  That  would  be 
very  different  from  saying,  "No ;  this  was  never  true." 

Because,  if  it  is  the  latter,  then  it  means  that  this  security  memo- 
randum— I  understand  that  the  State  Department  has  now  asked  the 
FBI  for  this  particular  information,  and  apparently  the  FBI  informa- 
tion that  they  have  given  them  does  confirm  the  security  report  that  we 
put  in  the  record. 

So,  if  it  is  the  latter.  Senator,  not  only  would  they  be  saying  Profes- 
sor Wittfogel's  testimony  was  false;  they  would  be  saying  that  this 
FBI  information  that  has  been  delivered  to  the  State  Department  is, 
by  the  same  token,  false — which  is  entirely  different. 

'  Senator  Watkins.  Of  course,  the  FBI  had  to  talk  to  people.  They 
do  not  get  this,  ordinarily,  from  documents  or  circumstances  alone; 
they  get  it  from  humans.  And  these  people  are  the  original  source 
of  the  testimony,  the  evidence,  and  not  the  FBI.  So  we  have  to  draw 
on  the  conclusion  that  it  is  still  passing  on  hearsay  evidence. 


3676       SCOPE    OF    SOVIET    ACTIVITY    IN    THE    UNITED    STATES 

But  that  is  neither  here  nor  there.  We  are  not  trying  anybody  in  this 
type  of  a  proceedino;. 

However,  we  certainly  ouf^ht  to  get  whatever  information  we  can 
that  would  help  our  own  country  and  its  actions  with  another  nation. 
What  we  do  about  it  after  we  get  that  information — how  we  handle 
it,  and  so  on —  that  is  another  matter,  entirely  a  different  matter.  But 
there  is  no  reason  why  we  should  not  get  as  much  information  as 
we  can,  and  th-it  is  the  reason  I  am  querying  you  about  this;  to  see 
if  there  is  anything  about  his  conduct  that  would  indicate  to  you  in 
any  way  that  he  was  not  loyal  to  his  own  country — that  he  was  friendly 
to  the  Communist  group,  or  to  the  Communist  philosophy,  or  to  Russia. 

Now,  that  is  what  we  are  trying  to  find  out.  And,  of  course,  I  think 
it  would  be  your  full  duty  to  disclose  anything  you  would  know  of 
that  matter,  because  it  is  your  own  Government  now,  and  Norman's 
Government,  asking  for  that  information,  if  you  have  it.  And  you  can 
understand,  can  you  not,  that  some  suspicion  would  be  aroused  by 
reason  of  the  fact  that  you  had  both  been  under  some  of  these  charges, 
and  that  you  met  in  Beirut  and  had  a  rather — you  said  it  was  brief, 
but  depending  on  the  way  you  look  at  it — you  had  a  conversation,  a 
rather  lengthly  conversation,  with  him,  2  hours  or  more  that  he  was  at 
your  home. 

Mr.  EiMMERSOX.  I  am  sure  that  I  was  alert  and  cautious  during^ 
this  conversation,  and  that,  if  anything  had  occurred  or  any  state- 
ment had  been  made  which  was  unusual,  I  would  have  noticed  it. 

As  far  as  meeting  him  is  concerned,  I  believe  it  was  in  the  normal 
course  of  one's  social  duties.  We,  of  course,  meet  a  great  many  people, 
diplomats  of  other  countries,  in  the  course  of  our  duties  in  the  Em- 
bassy, and  since  I  had  known  him  previously,  and  was  leaving  the  next 
day,  it  would  have  been  normal  to  have  met  them  on  that  occasion. 

Now,  I  am  sure  that  he  called  on  the  Ambassador  later  on,  and  that 
there  must  have  been  a  great  many  associations  during  that  period  he 
was  in  Beirut  after  I  left. 

Mr.  Morris.  Senator,  I  think  I  broke  in  on  a  question  of  yours  a 
while  ago,  when  you  asked  him  if  he  discussed  Professor  Wittfogel 
at  all. 

Senator  Watkins.  Yes;  I  wanted  to  find  out  if  he  said  anything 
about  any  testimony  Professor  Wittfogel  had  given  with  respect  to 
him. 

Mr.  Emmerson.  I  just  cannot  remember  that  he  mentioned  Dr.  Witt- 
fogel. It  was  in  the  context  of  general  charges  which  had  been  brought 
against  him,  and  I  just  cannot  remember  whether  Dr.  Wittfogel's  name 
was  mentioned. 

Mr.  Morris.  Would  it  have  been  logical,  Mr.  Emmerson,  if  two  old 
friends  met,  and  there  has  been  this  public  testimony  by  a  college  pro- 
fessor that  he  had  been  a  teacher  of  a  Communist  study  group,  that 
that  might  have  been  discussed  specifically  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  Well,  I  do  not  believe,  necessarily,  because,  of 
course,  I  did  not  know  Mr.  Norman  at  that  period.  I  have  no  knowl- 
edge of  his  experience  at  Columbia  University,  or  of  any  of  his  uni- 
versity career. 

I  met  him  first  in  1940  in  Japan.  So  that  I  do  not  think,  necessarily^ 
that  would  have  come  up. 


SCOPE    OF    SOVIET    ACTIVITY    IN    THE    UNITED    STATES      3677 

Senator  Watkins.  Had  you  heard  of  this  testimony  of  Professor 
Wittfogel  that  had  named  Mr.  Norman  as  a  Communist — member  of 
a  Communist  cell  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  I  have  heard  of  testimony  with  respect  to  Mr. 
Norman  because,  as  I  say,  we  obtained  from  the  Canadian  Legation, 
or  Canadian  Embassy,  in  1952,  this  press  release  which  stated  that 
Norman  had  been  cleared.  So  I  knew  there  had  been  some  charges. 
Wliether  I  was  aware  specifically  of  Dr.  Wittfogel's  charges,  I  can- 
not remember  that  I  have  heard  about  them  since — I  think,  probably, 
that  I  had  heard  that  that  was  the  testimony.  I  am  not  sure  when 
he  made  those  statements. 

Mr.  Morris.  Well,  how  much  of  this  conversation  was  devoted  to 
this  discussion  of  his  having  been  cleared  and  your  having  been 
cleared  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  A  very  small  part  of  it.     It  was  mentioned 

Mr.  Morris.  Five  or  ten  minutes  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  Five  or  ten  minutes. 

Senator  Watkins.  Were  your  wives  present  during  all  this  time  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  That  is  right ;  during  all  of  the  conversation  there 
was  no  separation. 

Mr.  Morris.  But  there  was  no  discussion  of  the  specifics  in  either 
case,  in  your  case  or  his  case  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  No. 

Mr.  Morris.  What,  specifically,  was  the  evidence  that  appeared  in 
the  record,  or 


Mr.  Emmerson.  No  ;  there  was  no  discussion  of  the  specific  evidence. 

Mr.  Morris.  Now,  you  said  this  was  primarily  a  social  visit  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  That  is  right. 

Mr.  Morris.  Yet  you  did  discuss  the  situation  generally;  did 
you  not  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  That  is  right ;  certainly. 

Mr.  Morris.  I  think  you  have  so  testified. 

Mr,  Emmerson.  Which  would  be  a  normal  thing  to  do. 

Mr.  Morris.  I  wonder  if  you  could  recapture  again  as  much  of  the 
detail  at  that  time  about  this  conversation — how  much  of  the  2  hours 
was  devoted  to  a  discussion  of  the  situation  that  existed  at  that 
time 

Mr.  Emmerson.  Well,  I  could  not  specify  exactly  the  time. 

They  came  up  to  our  apartment,  and  they  came  in  and  sat  down.  We 
had  a  cocktail,  we  showed  them  around  the  apartment — we  have  a  view 
of  the  Mediterranean  from  our  terrace — we  talked  about  where  we  had 
been  in  the  meantime,  what  our  assignments  had  been. 

As  I  recall,  for  about  maybe  5  minutes  or  more  we  did  discuss  this 
matter  of  clearances,  and  then  we  got  into  the  Middle  East  situation. 

This,  as  I  testified  the  other  day,  was,  of  course,  before  the  Israeli 
attack  or  before  the  French  and  British  attack,  so  none  of  those  mat- 
ters came  into  it.  We  were  concerned  with  the  general  developments 
in  the  Middle  East. 

I  had  been  to  Israel  a  few  weeks  before,  and  I  am  sure  that  I  must 
have  talked  about  my  experiences  in  Israel,  my  observations  down 
there  of  the  situation,  and  I  had  had  several  interviews  there. 


3678       SCOPE    OF    SOVIET    ACTIVITY    IN    THE    msriTED    STATES 

And  I  am  sure  that  he  spoke  about  the  situation  in  Egypt.  I  be- 
lieve he  referred  to  the  economic  situation  there,  and  about  the  Suez 
Canal  problem  which,  of  course,  was  concerning  everyone. 

But  as  1  testified  previously,  I  have  tried  to  go  over  this  to  the  very 
best  of  my  memory,  and  I  cannot  recall  any  categorical  statements, 
any  statements,  that  would  be  considered  slanted  in  the  pro-Communist 
sense,  which  he  made. 

Mr.  Morris.  You  did  discuss  your  official  business  over  there,  and 
things  you  had  been  doing  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  We  discussed  the  general  situation  in  the  area, 
which  Foreign  Service  officers  always  do  when  they  get  together. 

Senator  Watkins.  Did  you  discuss  the  part  that  apparently  Russia 
was  attempting  to  play  in  the  Mideast  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson".  I  am  sure  we  did,  because  that  is  the  one  thing  in 
Beirut  which  concerned  us  most;  the  penetration  of  the  Communists. 
And  he  asked  a  great  many  questions  of  me  about  Lebanon,  because 
he  was  coming  there  for  the  first  time ;  I  am  sure  I  talked  about  the 
Communist  efforts,  which  had  been  quite  considerable  even  in  the  small 
country  of  Lebanon — that  is,  to  try  to  infiltrate  by  cultural  means  and 
commercial  means,  to  get  an  influence  in  the  country  by  indirect 
methods. 

Mr.  Morris.  And  you  answered  all  those  questions  fully — you  did 
not  have  any  reservations  in  your  answer  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  Well,  I  answered  them.  I  certainly  did  not  divulge 
any  classified  information,  but  I  answered  them  to  the  best  of  my 
ability. 

Mr.  Morris.  I  mean,  the  point  is,  you  had  no  reservations  in  answer- 
ing questions;  he  was  an  old  friend  whom  you  trusted,  and  you  re- 
sponded completely  to  his  questions  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  I  had  only  the  normal  relations,  which  any  Foreign 
Service  officer  has,  if  he  is  discussing  something  with  a  person  outside 
his  own  Government  and  his  own  Department  of  State. 

Senator  Watkins.  Well,  you  would  not  discuss  it  as  confidentially 
with  him  as  you  would  have  done  with  the  Ambassador  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  With  my  own  ? 

Senator  Watkins.  Your  own  Ambassador. 

Mr.  Emmerson.  No,  certainly  not.  There  is,  of  course,  a  great  dif- 
ference. 

Senator  Watkins.  I  have  talked  with  quite  a  number  of  ambas- 
sadors, and  I  did  on  that  trip  I  had  over  there  in  1953,  but  I  never 
knew  how  much  they  were  keeping  back  from  me.  I  didn't  know 
whether  they  ever  told  me  all  thej^  knew  about  these  things  or  not, 
and  whether  they  would  discuss  with  me  classified  matters. 

Mn  Morris.  You  mentioned  Joseph  Fromm.  Had  you  known  him 
in  the  Far  East  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  I  cannot  remember  whether  I  met  him.  He  was 
stationed  in  the  Far  East  at  the  same  time  I  was,  but  I  had  met  him 
on  previous  occasions,  and  he  came  to  call  on  me  specifically  at  the 
Embassy. 

Senator  Watkins.  All  the  times  that  you  knew  him,  was  he  rep- 
resentative of  the  U.  S.  News  &  World  Eeport?     Is  that  the  one? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  He  is  now.  Wasn't  he  with  Newsweek  before? 
I  am  sorry,  I  cannot  remember.  But  I  do  not  know  him  well  at  all ; 
I  have  only  seen  him  two  or  three  times. 


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Mr.  Morris.  I  have  only  one  more  question. 

How  much  of  that  time,  of  the  2  hours,  did  you  discuss  the  political 
situation  in  the  Middle  East  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  I  should  say  it  might  have  been  20  minutes  or  30 
minutes,  because  we  then  went  into  lunch  and  sat  around  the  table, 
and  I  am  sure  at  the  lunch  table  we  did  not  carry  on  this  discussion. 

Mr.  Morris.  Senator,  I  think  Mr.  Sourwine  has  some  questions. 

Senator  Watkins.  Mr.  Sourwine. 

Mr.  Sourwine.  Mr.  Emmerson,  you  have  told  us,  I  assume  now, 
all  of  the  changes  that  you  desire  to  make  in  this  transcript  after  read- 
ing it  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  Yes,  I  believe 

Mr.  Sourwine.  I  just  want  to  be  sure  you  have  the  opportunity 
fully  and  had  not  been  sidetracked  by  other  questions. 

Mr.  Emmerson,  There  is  only  one  other  minor  detail. 

Senator  Watkins,  on  page  2051,  says,  "You  would  have  been  about  28 
when  you  were  in  China,"  and  I  replied,  "That  is  right." 

Well,  I  was  28  in  1936,  when  I  entered  the  Service,  when  I  first  went 
to  the  Far  East.  But  in  1944,  that  is  the  period  that  you  are  referring 
to,  I  was,  of  course,  36. 

Mr.  Sourwine.  You  had  been  in  the  Far  East  8  years  then,  as  a 
Foreign  Service  officer  ? 

Senator  Watkins.  I  probably  miscalculated;  I  just  did  it  in  a 
hurry. 

Mr.  Emmerson.  I  did  not  recount  correctly. 

Mr.  Sourwine.  I  think  this  illustrates,  Senator,  that  IMr.  Emmerson 
has  gone  through  this  transcript  very  carefully  to  make  any  notes. 

Senator  Watkins.  I  think  that  would  be  a  considerable  discrepancy. 
I  asked  him  if  he  was  28,  and  he  said,  yes  he  was  28. 

Mr.  Sourwine.  He  might  have  misunderstood  your  question  at  the 
time,  and  then,  in  reading  it,  noted  it. 

Does  that  include  everything  that  you  wanted  to  volunteer  with  re- 
spect to  changes  or  emendations  of  what  you  testified  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  Yes,  I  believe  it  does. 

Mr.  Sourwine.  There  is  a  point  in  that  record  where  you  testified 
with  respect  to  the  military  mission  which  w^as  sent  to  i  enan.  Do 
you  remember  talking  about  that?  You  said,  I  believe,  that  this  was 
with  Chiang  Kai-shek's  approval.  How  do  you  know  that,  or  how 
was  that  evident  to  your  knowledge  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  Well,  I  was  in  Cliungking  before  going  up  to  Yenan, 
and  I  was  aware  that,  as  is  common  knowledge  in  headquarters,  that 
when  Vice  President  Wallace  made  his  trip  to  China,  he  specifically 
requested  Chiang  Kai-shek  to  permit  the  United  States  to  send  an 
observer  mission  to  Communist  China,  and  that  is  my  recollection — 
that  consent  was  given  at  that  time  by  the  generalissimo,  and  the  mis- 
sion was  later  established. 

Mr.  Sourwine.  Do  you  know,  Mr.  Emmerson,  that  the  generalissimo, 
Chiang  Kai-shek,  sent  for  the  American  Ambassador  to  protest  this 
mission  in  Yenan  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  After  it  was  established  ? 

Mr.  Sourwine.  Yes. 

Mr.  Emmerson.  No  ;  I  do  not  know. 


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3680       SCOPE    OF    SOVIET    ACTIVITY    IN    THE    UNITED    STATES 

Mr.  SouRwiNE.  Going  back  to  the  question  of  the  occasion  of  Mr. 
Norman's  visit  to  Beirut,  when  you  saw  him  on  October — I  think  you 
said  the  27th 

Mr.  Emmerson.  Tlie  27th. 

Mr.  SouRwiNE  (continuing) .  Do  you  know  what  time  of  the  morn- 
ing the  boat  docked  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  I  think  it  must  have  been  early  in  tlie  morning, 
probably  8  o'clock,  although  I  am  not  sure. 

Mr.  SouRWiNE.  Now,  you  had,  on  the  day  before,  telephoned  the 
attache  and  had  talked  to  him,  and  through  him  had  extended  an  oral 
invitation  to  Mr.  Norman  to  visit  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  A  written  note. 

Mr.  SouRWiNE.  It  was. 

And  you  had  also  talked  to  him  on  the 

Mr.  Emmerson.  No;  I  had  talked  to  him  previously  on  social  oc- 
casions.  When  I  learned  they  were  coming  on  the  27th 

Mr.  Sourwine.  Oh,  yes. 

So  you  had  supplemented  that  earlier  oral  invitation  with  a  written 
note  on  the  26th  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  That  is  right. 

Mr.  Sourwine.  And  then  you  had  been  on  the  telephone  on  the 
morning  of  the  27th  and  confirmed  the  arrangements  that  they  were 
going  to  visit  you  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  I  cannot  remember  how  the  word  came  to  me.  I 
assume  it  was  by  telephone  during  the  morning. 

Mr.  Sourwine.  These  are  matters  which  had  escaped  your  recollec- 
tion when  you  testified  earlier  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  That  is  is  right.  I  was  concentrating  on  the  sub- 
stance of  the  conversation,  and  I  simply  did  not  recall  these  arrange- 
ments. 

Mr.  Sourwine.  The  specific  question,  I  think,  was  who  had  gotten 
in  touch  with  whom  first. 

Mr.  Emmerson.  That  is  right. 

Mr.  Sourwine.  And  these  matters  escaping  your  recollection,  you 
just  assumed  that  it  had  been  he  who  had  gotten  in  touch  with  you  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  That  was  the  assumption  from  reading  the  testi- 
mony afterward,  and  that  is  why  I  wanted  at  once  to  clarify  the  record. 

Mr.  Sourwine.  It  must  have  been  your  assumption  at  the  time, 
because  that  is  the  way  you  testified  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  I  forgot 

Mr.  Sourwine.  You  were  testifying  according  to  the  best  of  your 
recollection  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  That  is  right,  and  I  completely  forgot  this  ex- 
change of  correspondence. 

Mr.  Sourwine.  And  when  you  were  asked  how  he  got  in  touch  with 
you,  you  assumed  it  must  have  been  through  mutual  friends,  and  you 
had  forgotten  the  matter  of  your  previous  contact  with  the 

Mr.  Emmerson.  That  is  right. 

Mr.  Sourwine.  Can  you  recall,  in  your  conversation  with  Mr.  Nor- 
man, who  brought  up  the  matter  of  clearance  ?  Did  he  bring  it  up,  or 
did  you  ask  him  about  it  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  It  seems  to  me  that  he  brought  it  up  first.  That  is 
best  of  my  recollection. 


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Mr.  SouRwiNE.  Did  he  bring  it  up  by  asking  you  about  your  own 
situation,  or  by  way  of  volunteering  with  respect  to  his  own  status  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  I  do  not  remember  how  the  conversation  was  intro- 
duced. I  believe  he  probably  referred  to  this  affidavit.  I  had  never 
had  any  personal  contact  with  him  at  that  time,  and  the  Canadian 
Embassy  had  contacted  him  at  Ottawa  and  furnished  him  with  this 
affidavit.  And  I  believe  that  he  mentioned  that  first,  and  then  went  on 
to  speak  about  his  own  clearance.    That  is  the  best  of  my  recollection. 

Mr.  SoTJRWiNE.  Yes. 

What  affidavit  do  you  mean,  Mr.  Emmerson?  I  do  not  have 
clearly  in  mind  the  affidavit  j^ou  speak  of.  Was  it  an  affidavit  given 
by  Mr.  Norman  ? 

Mr.  Emmersox.  That  is  right.  When  the  charges  were  made  with 
respect  to  this  interrogation  of  Japanese  prisoners  of  war,  in  order  to 
complete  the  documentation,  which  we  tried  to  get  together  for  my 
hearings  in  1952,  in  addition  to  getting  affidavits  from  the  officers  of 
SCAP,  who  had  personal  knowledge  of  this,  we  asked  for  an  affidavit 
from  Mr.  Norman,  since  he  participated,  and  he  supplied  that  through 
the  Canadian  Embassy. 

Mr.  SouRwiNE.  It  was,  then,  an  affidavit  which,  through  official 
channels,  was  supplied  to  the  United  States  State  Department? 

Mr.  Emmersox.  That  is  right. 

Mr.  SouRwiNE.  That  is  how  you  came  to  know  about  it  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  That  is  how  I  came  to  know  about  it. 

Mr.  SouRwiNE.  It  was  not  an  affidavit  he  gave  to  the  Canadians,  to 
defend  himself  there  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  No,  no ;  not  at  all. 
_  Mr.  Sourwixe.  Going  back,  sir,  to  the  question  of  the  military  mis- 
sion, and  Chiang  Kai-shek's  interest  therein,  were  you  aware  of  this 
report — with  the  chairman's  permission — I  should  have  handed  it  to 
the  chairman  first,  but  it  just  came  to  me.  May  I  read  it  into  the 
record  ? 

Senator  Watkins.  What  does  it  purport  to  be  ? 

Mr.  Sourwine.  It  is  the  text  of  one  of  the  documents  which  was 
found  in  the  Amerasia  papers.  It  was  a  State  Department  report,  so 
far  as  the  indications  are,  which  had  been  giv^n  to  Mr.  Jaffe  from  some 
source,  and  was  one  of  the  papers  that  was  seii:ed. 

Senator  Watkins.  Before  reading  the  whole  thing  to  him,  can  you 
determine  whether  or  not  he  knows  anything  about  the  general  sub- 
ject matter? 

Mr.  SorRwiNE.  Yes;  I  have  already  done  that,  sir,  in  asking  him 
whether  he  knew  of  Chiang's  protest  to  the  Ambassador  about  the 
military  mission  in  Yenan. 

This  is  what  purports  to  be  a  copy  of  a  State  Department  report 
about  that  matter,  and  I  wanted  to  attempt  to  refresh  the  witness' 
recollection  by  asking  him  if  he  saw  this  State  Department  report. 

Senator  Watkins.  You  may  do  so. 

Mr.  SouRwiNE.  IMay  I  read  it,  sir  ? 

Senator  Watkins.  Yes. 

Mr.  Sourwine  (reading)  : 

Chinese  Communist  problem. — On  August  30,  Generalissimo  Chiang  Kai-shek 
sent  for  the  American  Ambassador  and  for  an  hour  and  a  half  discussed  the  Com- 
munist problem.  He  said  that  the  American  Government  does  not  understand  the 
problem  and  that  it  was  the  duty  of  the  Ambassador  to  explain  it  efCectively. 


3682       SCOPE    OF    SOVIET    ACTIVITY    IN    THE    UNITED    STATES 

Besides  charging  the  Communists  as  usual  with  treachery  and  bad  faith,  the 
main  points  of  Chiang's  argument  which  lie  stressed  and  repeated  constantly  are : 
On  world  problems  China  is  disposed  to  follow  the  United  States.  Suggestions 
by  us  that  the  Chinese  Government  should  improve  its  relations  with  the  Soviet 
Union  are  not  an  unfriendly  act  on  our  part.  With  regard  to  the  domestic 
problem  of  Chinese  Communists,  our  Government  should  fully  sympathize 
with  and  support  China.  The  attitude  which  we  assume  may  result  very  serious- 
ly for  China.  In  urging  the  Chinese  Government  to  resolve  its  differences  with 
the  Communists,  we  are  only  strengthening  the  Communists  in  their  recal- 
citrant attitude.  When  we  ask  that  China  agree  to  the  demands  of  the  Com- 
munists, it  is  the  same  as  asking  China  to  surrender  unconditionally  to  a  group 
which  is  known  to  be  under  the  influence  of  a  foreign  government  (the  Soviet 
Union).  We  should  tell  the  Communists  to  come  to  an  agreement  with  and  sub- 
mit to  the  Chungking  government.  The  Communists  are  growing  arrogant  and 
refuse  to  go  on  with  negotiations  since  our  observer  group  arrived  in  Yenan. 
(This  message  from  Chungking  is  incomplete,  only  one  section  having  been 
received. ) 

I  show  it  to  you  as  purporting  to  be  a  copy,  not  an  original,  and  sim- 
ply for  the  purpose  of  refreshino;  your  recollection  as  to  whether  you 
have  ever  seen  or  heard  about  that  report. 

Mr.  Emmersox.  Is  this  supposed  to  be  a  message  from  the  Embassy 
in  Chungking  ? 

Mr.  SouRwixE.  It  is  supposed  to  be  a  message  to  the  State  Depart- 
ment. I  would  presume  it  is  from  the  Embassy.  I  do  not  know 
whether  it  is  from  the  Embassy. 

Mr.  Emmerson.  No  ;  I  have  not  seen  this  document  before.  At  least, 
I  have  no  recollection  of  having  seen  it. 

Mr.  SouRwiNE.  Which  bears  out  what  you  said  earlier,  that  you 
had  no  knowledge  of  any  such  protest  ? 

_Mr.  Emmerson.  I  did  not  go  up  to  Yenan  until  October,  and  the 
mission  had  been  in  place  for  some  time. 

Mr.  SouRwiNE.  So  that  is  what  you  were  talking  about  earlier — 
the  consent  which,  you  say,  was  extended  to  Mr.  Wallace  when  he 
was  there? 

Mr.  Emmersoist.  That  was  in  July. 

Mr.  Sourwixe.  And  that  was  all  you  knew  about  any  question 
about  the  establishment  of  the  mission  ? 

Mr.  EiMMERSox.  Yes.  I  knew  the  mission  was  established,  and  I 
proceeded  there  under  official  orders. 

Mr.  SouRwiNE.  Yes,  sir. 

Do  you  know,  Mr.  Emmerson,  do  you  recall  whether,  in  your  dis- 
cussion with  Mr.  Norman,  there  was  any  discussion  of  the  imminence 
or  probability  of  British  action,  or  joint  British-French  action? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  No  ;  I  am  sure  there  was  no  discussion  on  that. 

Mr.  Sourwine.  Did  you  make  any  report  to  the  Department  of  your 
conference  with  Mr.  Norman  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  I  did  not  make  any  report.  I  considered  this  was 
a  social  occasion  of  the  type  which  we  have  constantly,  and  since 
there  was  no  significance  in  the  conversation  I  did  not  make  a  report. 

Mr.  SoTJRWiNE.  Mr.  Emmerson,  back  in  the  time  when  you  and  Mr. 
Norman  were  both  attached  to  SCAP  in  one  way  or  another,  were  you 
engaged  in  counterespionage  work? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  I  was  not ;  no. 

Mr.  SouR^vINE.  You  were  not. 

You  had  mentioned  counterespionage,  and  I  wondered  if  you  had 
counterespionage  duties. 

Mr.  Emmerson.  I  had  no  duties  with  that. 

Mr.  Sourwine.  Was  Mr.  Norman  in  counterespionage  work  ? 


SCOPE    OF    SOVIET    ACTIVITY    IN    THE    IHSTITED    STATES      3683 

Mr.  Emmerson.  I  do  not  think  so.  He  was  in  the  section  of  the 
Counter  Intelligence  Corps  which  I  believe  was  called  Research  and 
Analysis.    It  indicates  it  was  the  research  side  of  the  CIC  operation. 

Mr.  SouRwiNE.  But  he  was  under  CIC  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  He  was  under  CIC. 

Mr.  Sourwine.  And  you  were  not  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  And  I  was  not. 

Mr.  Sourwine.  Did  your  official  duties  require  you  to  confer  with 
one  another  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  They  did,  on  several  occasions  when  we  would  be 
working  on  a  paper  which  was  affected  by  the  reports  that  we  were 
making,  and  vice  versa. 

Mr.  Sourwine.  Yes. 

That  is,  you  were  sometimes  ordered  or  requested  or  required,  in 
line  of  duty,  to  confer  with  him  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  That  is  right ;  yes. 

Mr.  Sourwine.  And  presumably,  he  with  you  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  Yes. 

Mr.  Sourwine.  Were  your  offices,  that  is,  your  office  and  his  office, 
physically  close  in  SCAP  headquarters  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  No.  Our  offices  were  in  the  Mitsui  Building,  which 
was  in  one  part  of  Tokyo  and,  as  I  recall,  his  was  in  the  Dai  Ichi  Build- 
ing, or  in  a  building  near  the  Dai  Ichi  Building,  which  was  some  dis- 
tance from  ours. 

Mr.  Sourwine.  Yes. 

That  is  a  matter  measurable  in  miles,  isn't  it  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  Yes ;  I  would  say  maybe  2  miles. 

Mr.  Sourwine.  When  you  did  confer,  did  you  go  to  his  office  or  did 
he  come  to  your  office,  or  did  you  confer  at  some  middle 

Mr.  Emmerson.  I  would  go  to  his  office,  and  sometimes  he  would 
come  to  mine. 

Mr.  Sourwine.  Both  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  Yes. 

Mr.  Sourwine.  When  you  drove  into  Tokyo  with  prisoners  of  war, 
were  you  and  Mr.  Norman  both  in  the  same  automobile  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  I  do  not  believe  so.  I  think  he  was  in  one  and  I 
was  in  another. 

Mr.  Sourwine.  Wlio  was  with  you — Shiga  or  Tokuda,  or  both  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  Well,  I  really  cannot  remember.  There  were,  I 
think,  two  cars 

Mr.  Sourwine.  Yes. 

Mr.  Emmerson  (continuing).  And  I  cannot  remember  whether 
Shiga  was  in  my  car  or  the  other  car. 

Mr.  Sourwine.  Was  Tokuda  with  you  or  in  the  other  car  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  To  the  best  of  my  memory  now,  it  seems  to  me  I 
have  the  impression  that  Tokuda  was  in  the  car  where  I  was.  But  that 
is,  again,  simply  an  impression ;  I  have  not  thought  about  this  since 
the  time. 

Mr.  Sourwine.  Well,  I  thought  you  might  remember  inasmuch  as 
you  probably  had  some  conversation  on  the  way,  and  you  might  know 
with  whom  you  talked. 

Mr.  Emmerson.  I  recall  that  coming  into  Tokyo  that  Shiga,  I  be- 
lieve, got  carsick  and  we  had  to  stop  the  cars  and  get  out  for  a  few 
minutes. 


3684       SCOPE    OF    SOVIET    ACTIVITY    EN    THE    UNITED    STATES 

Mr.  SouRwiNE.  The  two  cars  were  in  a  convoy,  so  that  when  the  car 
Shiga  was  in  stopped,  you  had  to  stop,  too  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  Yes. 

Mr.  SoTJRWiNE.  Now,  after  the  interrogation,  what  happened  to 
these  two  men,  Shiga  and  Tokiida,  if  you  know  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  After  the  interrogation  we  delivered  them,  the  cars 
delivered  them,  back  to  headquarters.  On  October  the  10th  they  were 
released  from  prison. 

Mr.  SouRwiisTE.  Well,  what  was  the  day  of  the  interrogation  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  To  the  best  of  my  knowledge,  it  was  about  October 
6,  October  6  or  r. 

Mr.  SouRWiNE.  So  that  on  this  occasion,  in  spite  of  the  fact  that 
SCAP  had  issued  orders  freeing  all  political  prisoners,  when  you  fin- 
ished the  interrogation  you  took  them  back  to  the  prison  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  Yes;  because  the  date  of  their  actual  liberation 
was  October  10. 

Mr.  Sourwine.  Yes. 

Did  you  drive  with  them  when  they  went  back  to  prison  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  I  do  not  believe  I  did.  I  have  no  recollection  of 
that. 

Mr.  Sourwine.  Do  you  know  whether  Mr.  Norman  did  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  No ;  I  do  not  remember. 

Mr.  Sourwine.  Well,  you  do  not  know,  then,  what  route  was  fol- 
lowed in  taking  them  back  to  the  prison,  or  how  directly  they  went,  or 
whether  they  might  have  driven  around  Tokyo  at  that  time? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  No  ;  I  do  not. 

Mr.  Sourwine.  Were  any  instructions  given  in  that  regard,  as  far 
as  you  know  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  Instructions  were  to  take  them  back  to  the  prison. 

Mr.  Sourwine.  Who  gave  those  instructions  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  Counter  Intelligence  people.  I  cannot  remember 
the  individual 

Mr.  Sourwine.  And  Mr.  Norman  did  not  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  No ;  they  were  entirely  under  the  direction  of  the 
Counter  Intelligence  Corps. 

Senator  Watkins.  They  were  still  in  their  custody,  were  they  not  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  That  is  right. 

Senator  Watkins.  Even  when  they  were  up  there  for  investiga- 
tion ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  They  had  not  yet  been  released  from  prison. 

Mr.  Sourwine.  The  route  they  took  was  not  under  Mr.  Norman's 
control  or  under  Mr.  Emmerson's  control  ? 

Senator  Watkins.  I  assume  that  would  be  true,  if  they  were  in  the 
custody  of  the  Army  people — whoever  had  them. 

Mr.  Sourwine.  That  is  right.  They  do  not  even  know  what  route 
they  took,  or  whether  or  not  they  drove  around  Tokyo  after  the  in- 
terrogation.   Is  that  right  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  That  is  right. 

Mr.  Morris.  It  is  your  testimony  that  you  did  not  know  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  I  did  not  know. 

Mr.  Sourwine.  When  you  came  in  from  the  prison  to  headquarters, 
what  route  did  you  follow,  sir ;  do  you  remember  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  I  do  not  remember.  Fujii  is  a  suburb  of  Tokyo,  it 
is  out  quite  a  little  distance.    I  cannot  remember  how  many  miles,  but 


SCOPE    OF    SOVIET   ACTIVITY    EST    THE    UNITED    STATES      3685 

it  is  some  little  distance  from  Tokyo.  It  must  have  taken  45  minutes 
or  an  hour  to  drive  in. 

Mr.  SouKwiNE.  As  far  as  you  know,  was  it  a  direct  route  which  you 
followed  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  It  was  the  direct  route ;  yes. 

Mr.  SouRwiNE.  \Vlien  you  came  in  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  When  we  came  in. 

Mr.  SouEwiNE.  And  as  you  say,  you  do  not  know  what  route  was 
followed  when  they  were  taken  back  ? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  That  is  right. 

Mr.  SouRWiNE.  Mr.  Chairman  and  Mr.  Morris,  I  do  not  know 
whether  it  is  desirable  this  morning — I  know  the  chairman  said  he  did 
not  have  too  much  time 

Senator  Watkins.  I  had  an  Interior  meeting  at  10  o'clock,  and 
when  I  came  up  here  I  intended  to  stay  a  few  minutes  and  go  down 
there,  but  since  you  did  not  have  anyone  here  to  preside,  I  stayed  on. 
There  is  a  very  important  project  up  for  one  of  my  sister  States. 

Mr.  Morris.  Senator,  as  you  know,  the  purpose  of  this  session  today 
was  to  give  Mr.  Emmerson  a  chance  to  correct  the  record. 

Now,  we  have  some  more  reports  and  things  we  would  like  to  ask  him 
about,  but  we  were  not  prepared  to  do  that  today,  sir. 

Senator  Watkins.  Well,  if  you  are  not  prepared  to  do  it  today, 
then  let's  recess. 

Mr.  Morris.  And  you  are  satisfied  now,  Mr.  Emmerson,  that  the 
corrections  have  been  made,  the  changes  have  been  made  in  your 
answers,  as  set  forth  in  connection  with  this  testimony  which  appears 
at  pages  2044, 2045,  and  2047  of  the  official  transcript? 

Mr.  Emmerson.  Yes. 

Senator  Watkins.  It  would  be  fair  also  to  say  that  in  addition  to 
the  changes,  there  was  some  amplification.  In  other  words,  he  went 
into  it  more  fully. 

Mr.  Emmerson.  That  was  my  intention ;  to  amplify  the  testimony. 

Senator  Watkins.  The  committee  will  be  in  recess. 

(Whereupon,  at  11 :  05  p.  m.,  the  subcommittee  adjourned.) 


INDEX 


Note. — The  Senate  Internal  Security  Subcommittee  attaches  no  significance  to 

the  mere  fact  of  the  appearance  of  the  name  of  an  individual  or  an  organization 

in  this  index. 

^  Page 

Adler,  Solomon 3664 

Amerasia  papers 3681 

American  Embassy  (Beirut) 3645 

American  Embassy  (Chungking) 3646,3648 

American  Embassy  (Moscow) 3659 

American  Embassy  (Paris) 3646 

American  Embassy   (Tokyo) 3657 

American  Friends  of  the  Chinese  People 3659 

Arab  world,  the 3673 

Army  (United  States) 3646 

Athens,  Greece 3666 

Australia/n 3649,  3650 


Beirut,  Lebanon 3645,  3646,  3661-3663,  3666-3669,  3673,  3676,  3678,  3680 

British 3652,  3662,  3677,  3682 

Bureau  of  Far  Eastern  Affairs 3654,  3666 

Bureau  of  Near  Eastern  Affairs 3646 

Burma 3651 

C 

Cairo 3657,  3661,  3662,  3664,  3668,  3673 

Canada 3657,  3660,  3663,  3664,  3668,  3674 

Canadian 3660,  3664,  3670 

Canadian  Ambassador 3656,  3657 

Canadian  Embassy 3677,  3681 

Canadian  Foreign  Office : 

American  desk 3657 

Far  Eastern  desk 3657 

Canadian  Foreign  Service 3657 

Canadian  Friends  of  the  Chinese  People 3659 

Canadian  Government 3656,  3657,  3660,  3663,  3669,  3675 

Canadian  Legation 3677 

Canadian  Legation  (Beirut) 3668 

Canadian  Legation  (Tokyo) 3657 

Canadian   Minister 3661 

Cannon,  Cavendish 3666 

Cartwright,    Mr 3645 

Chi,  Dr 3658 

Chiang  Kai-shek 3646,  3679,  3681,  3682 

China 3646-3649,  3651-3654,  3659,  3665,  3679,  3682 

China,  Communist 3653,  3655,  3659,  3665,  3679 

Chinese 3648,  3659 

Chinese  Communist/s 3646-3648,  3681,  3682 

Chinese  Nationalist  Government 3659 

Chungking 3646,  3648,  3651,  3653,  3659,  3664,  3679,  3682 

Clark,  Laura  Irene 3660 

Columbia  University 3656,  3657,  3659,  3674,  3676 

Communist/s 3648-3654,  3656-3663,  3665,  3670,  3672-3678,  3682 

Communist  headquarters  (Yenan) 3646 

Communist  Party 3649,  3660,  3661,  3665,  3673-3675 

Counter  InteUigence  Corps 3655,  3661, 3669,  3683,  3684 


II  INDEX 

D 

Page 

Dai  IcM  Building 3683 

Davis,  Lieutenant  Colonel 3671 

Deputy  Under  Secretary  of  State  for  Canada 3664 

Dooman,   Eugene 3654,  3655,  3656,  3664,  3670,  3671 

Dulles,  Secretary 3665 

E 

Eden,  Prime  Minister 3662 

Egypt 3656,  3657,  3664,  3666,  3678 

Eighth  Route  Army 3652 

Emmerson,  John  K. : 

Testimony   of 3645-3666,  3667-3685 

Deputy  chief  of  mission,  counselor  of  embassy,  Beirut,  Lebanon 3645 

On  special  assignment  to  General  Assembly  of  TJ.  N 3645 

Liaison  officer  to  U.  N.  for  Bureau  of  Near  Eastern  Affairs,  State 
Department 3646 

F 

Far   East 3653,  3658,  3663,  3664,  3674,  3678,  3679 

Far  East  Subcommittee  of  the  State  Department 3653 

FBI 3675 

Federal  Bureau  of  Investigation 3660 

Foreign  Service 3646,  3668,  367S,  3679 

France 3658 

French 3662,  3671,  3677,  3682 

Fromm,    Joseph 3673,  3678 

Fujii  (suburb  of  Tokyo) 3684 

G 

Germany 3651,  3653 

Gouzenko 3660 

H 
Haga 3654,3655 

Halperin,  Israel 3660 

Harvard   University 3660 

Hildreth,  Ambassador 3665 

Hipsley,  Mr 3645 

Hiss,   Alger 3660 

Holmes,  Charles  P.  H 3660 

Holmes,  John 3664 

House  of  Commons 3662 

Hurley,  Patrick  J 3654,  3659 

I 

Imperial  Hotel  (Japan) 3658 

India 3649,  3650,  3651 

Isaacs,  Harold 3671 

Israel 3662,  3677 

Italy 3651 

J 

JafEe,  Mr 3681 

Japan 3646-3655,  3657,  3658,  3660,  3661,  3663,  3664,  3669-3671,  3673,  3676 

Japanese 3646-3657,  3660,  3661,  3669,  3670,  3672,  3681 

Japanese  Army 3649,  3652 

Japanese  Communist/s 3646-3650,  3652,  3655,  3656,  3670,  3671 

Japanese  Communist  Party 3661 

Japanese    Peoples'    Emancipation    League    (Nihon    Jinmin    Kaiho    Ren- 

mei) 3647-3652 

Japanese  Socialist  Party 3672 

Jenner,  Senator  William  E 3645 


INDEX  in 

K 

Page 

Karachi 3665,  3666 

Kim 3672 

Korea/n 3651,  3655,  3672 

Korean  Communist 3672 

L 

Lattimore,  Owen 3658,  3659 

Lebanon 3657,  3661,  3666,  3678 

London 3662 

Luzon 3651 

M 

MacArthur,  General 3655,  3656,  3669-3671 

Manchuria 3651 

Mandel,  Benjamin 3645,  3667 

Marxist 3660 

McLean,  Donald 3656 

McManus,  Robert 3645,  3667 

Mediterranean 3677 

Middle  East 3646,  3661,  3662,  3664,  3666,  3673,  3677-3679 

Military  Aid  Agreement 3665 

Mitsui  Building  (Tokyo) 3683 

Morris,  Brewster 3668 

Morris,  Robert 3645,  3667 

Moscow 3659,  3664,  3665 

Murphy,    Ray 3665 

N 

Nasser    regime 3664 

Navy,  Secretary  of 3653 

Near  East 3664,  3666,  3673 

Newsweek 3678 

New  York 3654,  3655,  3664 

New  Zealand 3656,  3657,  3664,  3668 

Nihon   Jinmin    Kaiho    Renmei.     (See   Japanese    Peoples'    Emancipation 
League.) 

NKVD 3661 

Norman,  B.  Herbert 3655-3661,  3663,  3664,  3667-3677,  3680-3684 

North   China 3655 

Northern  Tier 3665 

Nozaka  (see  also  Okano) 3646-3648 

O 

Okano,  Susumu  (also  known  as  Nozaka) 3646-3648,  3652,  3654,  3655 

OSS 3651,  3654,  3655 

Ottawa 3660,  3681 

P 

Pakistan 3665 

Paris 3646 

Peoples  Peasants  and  Workers  School 3647 

Policy  Planning  Board 3666 

"Proposed  Projects  Against  Japan" 3648 

Provost  Marshal  General 3652 

B 

Research  and  Analysis  (CIC) 3683 

Roy,  Lionel 3668 

Rusher,  William  A 3645,  3667 

Russia/n 3650,  3651,  3658,  3660,  3676,  3678 


IV  INDEX 

S 

Page 

Saipan 3651 

SCAP 3656,  3660,  3669,  3671,  3681-3684 

SEATO  Pact 3666 

Shantung  Province 3651 

Shiga,  Mr 3655,  3670,  3671,  3683,  3684 

Shuji,  Fujii 3654,  3664 

Siberia 3661 

Sinai  Desert 3662 

Smith,  Gen.  Bedell 3659 

Sourwine,  J.  G 3667 

Soviet  Union 3651,  3665,  3666,  3682 

Stalin 3651 

State  Department 3645,  3646,  3651-3654,  3659,  3660, 

3665,  3666,  3671,  3673,  3675,  3678,  3681,  3682 

State  Department  Loyalty  Security  Board 3655 

State,  Secretary  of 3653 

State-War-Navy  Coordinating  Committee   (SWING) 3650,  3653 

Stilwell,  General 3646,  3651,  3653 

Suez 3662,   3678 

SWING  (State- War-Navy  Coordinating  Committee) 3650,  3653 

T 

Tamotsu : 3655 

Texas 3652 

Thorpe,   General 3670 

Tokuda,  Mr 3655,  3670,  3683,  3684 

Tokyo 3655-3657,  3660,  3661,  3672,  3683-3685 

Treasury    Department 3664 

Tsuru,  Shigeto 3660,  3664 

U 
United  Nations 3646,  3664,  3666,  3668 

United  Nations  General  Assembly 3645,  3646,  3664 

United  Nations,  United  States  delegation  to 3646 

United  States  Intelligence 3660 

United  States  Observers'  Mission 3646 

U.  S.  News  &  World  Report 3673,  3678 

W 

Wallace,  Vice  President 3679,  3682 

War  Department 3650,  3652 

War,  Secretary  of 3653 

Warren,  Ambassador 3665 

Washington 3650,  3652,  3654,  3655,  3659 

Watkins,  Senator  Arthur  V 3645,  3667 

Wedemeyer,  General 3651,  3652,  3654 

Wellington,  New  Zealand 3668 

Wittfogel,   Professor 3659,  3674-3677 


Yenan 3646-3648,  3650,  3651,  3653,  3655,  3659,  3679,  3681,  3682 

X 


SCOPE  OF  SOVIET  ACTIVITY  IN  THE  UNITED  STATES 


HEARINGS 

BEFORE  THE 

SUBCOMMITTEE  TO  INVESTIGATE  THE 

ADMINISTKATION  OF  THE  INTEENAL  SECUEITY 

ACT^AND  OTHER  INTERNAL  SECUEITY  LAWS 

OF  THE 

COMMITTEE  ON  THE  JUDICIIEY 

UNITED  STATES  SENATE 

EIGHTY-FIFTH  CONGRESS 

FIRST  SESSION 

ON 

SCOPE  OF  SOVIET  ACTIVITY  IN  THE 
UNITED  STATES 


MARCH  26,  27,  AND  APRIL  4,  1957 


PART  57 


Printed  for  the  use  of  the  Committee  on  the  Judiciary 


UNITED  STATES 
GOVERNMENT  PRINTING  OFFICE 
33215  WASHINGTON  :   1957 


Boston  Public  Library 
Superintendent  of  Documents 

NOV  18  1957 


COMMITTEE  ON  THE  JUDICIARY 

JAMES  O.  EASTLAND,  Mississippi,  Chairman 

BSTES  KEFAUVER,  Tennessee  ALEXANDER  WILEY,  Wisconsin 

OLIN  D.  JOHNSTON,  Soutli  Carolina  WILLIAM  LANGER,  North  Dakota 

THOMAS  C.  HENNINGS,  Jr.,  Missouri  WILLIAM  E.  JENNER,  Indiana 

JOHN  L.  McCLELLAN,  Arkansas  ARTHUR  V.  WATKINS,  Utah 

JOSEPH  C.  O'MAHONEY,  Wyoming  EVERETT  MCKINLEY  DIRKSEN,  Illinois 

MATTHEW  M.  NEELY,  West  Virginia  JOHN  MARSHALL  BUTLER,  Maryland 

SAM  J.  ERVIN,  JR.,  North  Carolina  ROMAN  L.  HRUSKA,  Nebraska 


Subcommittee  To  Investigate  the  Administration  of  the  Internal  Security 
Act  and  Other  Internal  Security  Laws 

JAMES  O.  EASTLAND,  Mississippi,  Chairman 
OLIN  D.  JOHNSTON,  South  Carolina  WILLIAM  E.  JENNER,  Indiana 

JOHN  L.  McCLELLAN,  Arkansas  ARTHUR  V.  WATKINS,  Utah 

SAM  J.  ERVIN,  Jr.,  North  Carolina  JOHN  MARSHALL  BUTLER,  Maryland 

MATTHEW  M.  NEELY,  West  Virginia  ROMAN  L.  HRUSKA,  Nebraska 

Robert  Morris,  Chief  Counsel 

J.  G.  SoDRWiNE,  Associate  Counsel 

William  A.  Rdsher,  Associate  Counsel 

Benjamin  Mandel,  Director  of  Research 

u 


CONTENTS 


Witness :  ^^^^ 

Niebyl,  Karl  H 3760 

Tsiirn,  Shigeto 3687 

III 


SCOPE  OF  SOVIET  ACTIVITY  IN  THE  UNITED  STATES 


TUESDAY,   MARCH  26,    1957 

United  States  Senate, 
Subcommittee  to  InvestiGx\te  tpie 
Administration  of  the  Internal  Security  Act 

AND  Other  Internal  Security.'  Laws 
OF  THE  Committee  on  the  Judiciary, 

Washington,  D.  C. 

The  subcommittee  met,  pursuant  to  call,  at  11 :  15  a.  m.,  in  room 
424,  Senate  Office  Building,  Senator  Olin  D.  Johnston,  presiding. 

Present :  Senators  Johnston  and  Jenner. 

Also  present;  Robert  Morris,  chief  counsel;  J.  G.  Sourwine,  asso- 
ciate counsel;  William  A.  Rusher,  associate  counsel;  and  Benjamin 
Mandel,  director  of  research. 

Senator  Johnston.  The  committee  will  come  to  order.  Attorney 
Morris  will  take  charge. 

Mr.  Morris.  I  think  it  best  that  Mr.  Tsuru  be  sworn  again. 

Senator  Johnston.  Do  you  swear  that  the  evidence  you  give  before 
this  subcommittee  will  be  the  truth,  the  whole  truth,  and  nothing  but 
the  truth,  so  help  you  God  ? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  Yes,  I  do. 

TESTIMONY  OF  SHIGETO  TSUEII,  CAMBRIDGE,  MASS.,  ACCOMPANIED 
BY  CHARLES  GLOVER,  HIS  ATTORNEY 

Mr.  Morris.  Mr.  Tsuru,  will  you  give  your  name  and  address  to  the 
stenotype  reporter  ? 

Mr.  Tsuru.  My  name  is  Shigeto  Tsuru — S-h-i-g-e-t-o  T-s-u-r-u.  At 
present  my  address  is  18-A  Forest  Street,  Cambridge  40,  Mass. 

Mr.  Morris.  What  is  your  business  at  this  time,  business  or  pro- 
fession ? 

Mr.  Tsuru.  My  profession  is  professor  of  economics  at  Hitotsubashi 
University,  Tokyo.  I  am  on  the  permanent  staff  of  this  university. 
CJurrently  I  am  at  Harvard  University  as  a  visiting  lecturer,  invited 
by  the  Ajnerican-Japan  Intellectural  Interchange  Committee  for  the 
term  of  1  year. 

Mr.  Morris.  And  what  do  you  do,  do  you  teach  at  Harvard  ? 

Mr.  Tsuru.  Under  the  terms  of  this  invitation,  my  main  job  at 
Harvard  is  research.  But  I  assist  occasionally  in  a  number  of  courses, 
to  give  sort  of  guest  lectures. 

Mr.  Morris.  Now  you  also,  I  think,  as  you  told  me  in  that  letter, 
you  are  also  doing  broadcasting  on  the  Voice  of  America  ? 

3687 


3688       SCOPE    OF    SOVIET    ACTIVITY    IN    THE    UNITED    STATES 

Mr.  TsuRiT.  I  have  made  an  appointment  with  Voice  of  America  to 
broadcast  on  April  18  on  my  impressions  of  the  United  States  after 
visiting  this  country  after  15  years. 

Mr,  Morris.  Now  what  other  cultural  exchange  are  you  engaged  in 
at  this  time  ? 

Mr.  TsuRu.  Aside  from  doing  research  at  Harvard  University  and 
giving  lectures  there,  I  participate  occasionally  in  academic  confer- 
ences, such  as  the  forthcoming  conference  of  Asian  studies  to  be  held 
in  Boston  in  the  first  week  of  April,  where  I  shall  present  a  paper  on 
the  problem  of  employment  in  Japan. 

I  have  also  agreed  to  participate  in  the  student  conference  of  Colum- 
bia University  student  council,  also  in  the  first  week  of  April.  When 
I  am  invited  by  university  communities  to  give  lectures  on  my  own 
special  subject,  so  far  as  my  time  permits,  I  accept  invitations  and 
give  such  lectures. 

Mr.  Morris.  Now  is  there  anything  else.  Senators,  about  the  present 
activities  that  you  would  like  to  know  ? 

Senator  Johnston.  Any  questions  ? 

Senator  Jenner.  No  questions. 

Mr.  Morris.  Where  were  you  born,  Mr.  Tsuru  ? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  I  was  actually  born  in  Tokyo,  Japan.  However,  tech- 
nically, I  was  born  in  Usa — that  happens  to  be  the  same  as  USA — 
Oita  prefecture  in  Japan. 

If  you  would  like  me  to,  I  shall  explain  the  difference  between  actual 
and  technical  ? 

Mr.  Morris.  I  do  not  think  it  is  necessary  in  this  case. 

Will  you  tell  us  briefly  what  your  education  was  in  Japan  ? 

Mr.  Tsuru.  I  had  the  normal  experience  as  a  Japanese  student,  to 
go  through  grade  school,  what  we  used  to  call  middle  school,  and 
higher  school.  Middle  school  usually  takes  5  years,  but  I  finished  it 
in  4  years,  and  entered  tlie  Eighth  Higher  School  of  Nagoya,  in  1929. 
However,  I  did  not  finish  the  Eighth  Higher  School.  I  left  Japan 
in  1931  and  came  to  this  country  for  study. 

Mr.  Morris.  I  see.     What  year  were  you  born,  Mr.  Tsuru  ? 

Mr.  Tsuru.  I  am  sorry,  1912. 

Mr.  Morris.  And  you  came  to  the  United  States  for  the  first  time 
when? 

Mr.  Tsuru.  September  1931. 

Mr.  Morris.  And  how  long  did  you  stay  at  that  particular  time  ? 

Mr.  Tsuru.  I  entered  Lawrence  College,  Appleton,  Wis.,  as  a  fresh- 
man, stayed  there  for  2  years,  and  transferred  myself  to  Harvard 
College  in  the  fall  of  1933  as  a  provisional  junior  and  returned  to 
Japan  for  a  temporary  stay  in  tlie  summer  of  1934.  I  came  back  to 
the  United  States  again  in  September  1934.  Would  you  like  me  to 
continue  ? 

Mr.  Morris.  I  think  that  is  satisfactory  at  this  point. 

In  other  words,  you  would  make  intermittent  trips  back  to  Japan  ? 

Mr.  Tsuru.  I  did  make  a  number  of  trips  back  to  Japan,  for  each 
one  of  which  I  had  a  special  purpose. 

Mr.  Morris.  Now  what  university  did  you  attend  in  the  United 
States? 

Mr.  Tsuru.  As  I  mentioned,  I  was  at  Lawrence  College,  Appleton, 
as  a  freshman  and  sophomore,  and  then  Harvard  University  where  I 
got  my  bachelor's  degree,  master's  degree,  and  doctor  of  philosophy. 


SCOPE    OP    SOVIET   ACTIVITY   EST   IHE    UNITED    STATES      3689 

Mr.  Glover.  Could  he  amplify  an  earlier  answer  ? 

Mr.  Morris.  Yes. 

Mr.  TsuRU.  I  mentioned  about  my  returning  to  Japan  intermittent- 
ly, and  each  time  I  had  a  special  purpose.  I  did  not  amplify  it,  but 
I  should  like  to  say  the  occasions  and  purposes  of  my  return  were 
such  as  my  mother's  death,  marriage 

Mr.  Morris.  AVho  did  you  marry,  Mr.  Tsuru  ? 

Mr.  Tsuru.  Miss  Masako  Wada. 

Mr.  Morris.  She  is  the  niece,  is  she  not,  of  the  Lord  Keeper  of  the 
Privy  Seal? 

Mr.  Tsuru.  The  former  Lord  Keeper  of  the  Privy  Seal,  Koichi, 
K-o-i-c-h-i,  I  believe — K-i-d-o, 

Mr.  Morris.  Now  when  were  you  at  Harvard  University  ? 

Mr.  Tsuru.  I  was  at  Harvard  University  from  September  1933  to 
June  1942. 

Mr.  Morris.  And  what  did  you  do  during  that  period  ? 

Mr.  Tsuru.  At  first  I  was  a  college  student,  junior  and  senior,  and 
then  became  a  graduate  student  in  economics,  I  received  my  masters- 
degree  in  1936,  and  then  I  had  some  research  assistant's  jobs,  odds  and 
ends,  and  in  a  subsequent  period  worked  for  my  doctor  of  philosophy, 
which  I  got  in  1940.  However,  I  remained  at  Harvard  University 
until  June  1942. 

Mr.  Morris.  And  then  in  June  1942  what  did  you  do  ? 

Mr.  Tsuru.  Previously  Mrs.  Tsuru  and  I  had  applied  for  repatria- 
tion. However,  we  were  told,  I  believe  by  the  State  Department,  that 
since  we  were  living  unmolested  in  the  United  States,  we  shall  be  on 
the  low  priority  list  so  far  as  repatriation  is  concerned.  Thus  we 
were  reconciled  to  the  idea  of  staying  on  in  this  country  for  further 
years,  but  suddenly,  I  believe  it  was  June  2,  if  I  remember  correctly, 
we  received  a  telegram  from  the  State  Department  that  we  shall  be 
repatriates  by  the  first  boat  for  repatriation,  Gripsholm,  and  we  were 
to  report  ourselves  at  Ellis  Island,  I  believe,  by  June  7. 

So  we  did  so,  and  we  were  repatriated  by  the  Gripshohn. 

Mr.  Morris.  Now,  Mr.  Chairman  and  Senator  Jenner,  the  purpose 
of  this  hearing  today  is  to  ask  Mr.  Tsuru  to  identify  for  the  public 
record,  which  he  has  already  done  in  executive  session,  portions  of  his 
papers  and  books  which  he  left  behind  at  the  time  of  his  repatria- 
tion in  1942,  about  which  he  has  just  told  us. 

I  would  like  to  offer  for  the  record  the  following  documents : 

A  letter  dated  August  31,  1936,  signed  by  Tsuru — who  gave  as  his 
address :  "At  present :  Madison  but  please  answer  care  of  the  Interna- 
tional House,  1414  E.  59th  Street,  Chicago,  Illinois"  with  the  saluta- 
tion :  "Dear  Bill"  and,  in  parentheses,  "W.  T.  Parry." 

Mr.  Glover.  Mr.  Morris,  as  each  one  of  these  comes  up,  we  would 
like  to  check  it  over. 

Mr.  Morris.  Maybe,  while  I  am  putting  these  in  the  public  record 
now,  we  will  get  back  to  them  together. 

Mr.  Glover.  We  may  want  to  object  to  some  of  them  going  into  the 
record. 

Mr.  Morris.  You  have  acknowledged  they  are  his  documents. 

Senator  Jenner.  He  acknowledged  they  are  his  documents.  He  ex- 
amined them  and  said  he  recalls  them. 


3690       SCOPE    OF    SOVIET    ACTIVITY    IN    THE    UNITED    STATES 

Mr.  TsuRU.  Excuse  me,  I  said  in  executive  session,  when  this  group 
of  records  was  presented  to  me  for  the  first  time,  I  skimmed  through 
very  quickly,  and  I  felt  they  either  belonged  to  me,  or  were  written 
by  me. 

Mr.  Glover.  But  I  think,  now  they  are  going  into  the  record,  that 
we  should  have  a  change  to 

Mr.  TsuRU.  I  should  like  to  make  certain. 

Mr.  Morris.  Wliy  don't  you  read  it  aloud,  this  first  one  we  are 
talking  about,  Mr.  Tsuru  ?     Will  you  do  that  for  us  ? 

Senator  Johnston.  Read  it,  then. 

Mr.  Morris.  And  then  you  can  tell  us  if  it  is  not  yours. 

Mr.  Glover.  Now,  we  have  had  a  chance  to  look  at  this  one. 

Mr.  TsuRU.  The  first  one,  I  think,  was  written  by  me. 

Senator  Johnston.  You  think  ?  You  know  your  own  handwriting, 
don't  you  ? 

Mr.  Morris.  It  is  typed. 

I  wonder  if  you  would  read  it  aloud?  Senator  Johnston,  unlike 
Senator  Jenner,  has  not  read  this  one.  Would  you  read  it  aloud 
for  us  ? 

Mr.  Tsuru.  You  know,  I  have  been  speaking  from  this  morning — 
I  may  get  tired.  If  you  order  me  to,  I  shall  be  willing  to  read  it. 
But  for  one  thing,  my  pronunciation  may  not  be  quite  correct.  Since 
I  have  already  admitted  it  is  mine,  could  not  one  of  your 

Mr.  Morris.  Senator,  in  order  to  relieve  Mr.  Tsuru,  maybe  Mr. 
Mandel,  our  research  director,  could  read  the  first  letter  for  us. 

Senator  Johnston.  Mr.  Mandel,  will  you  read  the  letter? 

Mr.  JSIandel  (reading)  : 

At  present :  Madison 

But  please  answer  care  of  The  International  House,  1414  E.  59tli  Street, 

Chicago,  111. 

August  31, 1936. 

Dear  Bill 

Mr,  Morris.  You  knew  Mr,  Parry  at  this  time  ? 

Mr.  Tsuru.  Yes ;  I  did  know  Mr.  Parry  then. 

Mr.  Morris.  Who  was  Mr.  Parry  at  that  time  ? 

Mr.  Tsuru.  I  believe  Mr.  Parry  was  an  instructor  of  philosophy 
at  Harvard  University. 

Mr,  Morris,  And  you  knew  him  at  the  time  ? 

Mr,  Tsuru.  Yes ;  I  did  know  him  at  the  time. 

Mr.  Morris.  And  what  was  the  nature  of  your  association  with 
him? 

Mr.  Tsuru.  I  cannot  be  exact  because  I  do  not  remember  exactly, 
but  most  likely  from  around  1934  to  around  1940  or  so. 

Senator  Johnston.  That  is  after  you  finished  your  bachelor  of  arts 
degree  ? 

Mr,  Tsuru.  I  finished  my  bachelor  of  arts  degree  in  1935. 

Mr.  Morris.  Did  you  know  him  well  ? 

Mr.  Tsuru.  I  knew  him  well  enough  to  call  him  by  the  first  name, 

Mr,  Morris,  But  your  association  was  not  what  you  would  call  an 
intimate  association  ? 

Mr,  Tsuru,  I  would  not  call  it  a  very  intimate  association, 

Mr,  Morris.  Mr.  Chairman,  for  the  record,  I  would  like  to  identify 
Mr.  Parry. 


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Mr.  Parry  is  Mr.  William  T.  Parry,  who  was  identified  before  the 
House  Un-American  Activities  Committee  by  Richard  G.  Davis,  a 
colle<?e  professor  who  had  been  a  Conmiunist  in  the  past  and  testified 
as  to  the  makeup  of  certain  Communist  cells  in  the  area  of  Boston. 

One  of  the  persons  he  identified  as  a  Communist  on  the  Harvard 
faculty  was  William  T.  Parry. 

When  Mr.  Parry  was  called  before  the  House  Un-American  Activ- 
ities Committee,  he  refused  to  answer,  claiming  privilege  under  the 
fifth  amendment,  as  to  whether  or  not  he  had  been  a  member  of  the 
Communist  Party. 

The  date  of  that  testimony,  Senator,  was  May  19, 1953. 

Senator  Johnston.  Proceed. 

Mr.  Mandel  (reading)  : 

Thus  far  I  have  not  reported  to  you  anything  concerning  the  matter  of  the 
Association  of  Marxian  Studies,  mainly  because  the  entire  matter  in  this  district 
has  been  only  in  the  formative  stage  both  with  respect  to  its  theory  and  practice. 
It  still  is.  For  a  definite  reason,  however,  I  feel  it  necessary  to  report  immedi- 
ately the  major  problems  which  have  arisen  here  in  connection  with  the  matter 
of  organizing  the  association. 

First,  I  shall  try  to  formulate  my  understanding  of  the  nature  of  the  educa- 
tional activities  centered  around  the  magazine.  The  publication  of  the  maga- 
zine itself,  without  the  association  or  study  groups  around  it,  has  its  educational 
•significance. 

Mr.  Morris.  Excuse  me,  Mr.  Mandel. 

What  magazine  are  you  talking  about  there,  Mr.  Tsuru  ? 

Mr.  Tsuru.  I  believe  science  and  society. 

Mr.  Morris.  I  see.  What  was  your  connection  with  Science  and 
Society  ? 

Mr.  Tsuru.  I  think  it  was  also  around  1936,  this  Mr.  Parry  ap- 
proached me,  asking  me  if  I  would  not  cooperate  in  the  publication 
of  this  magazine,  Science  and  Society,  since  they  did  not  have  suffi- 
ciently good  men  in  the  field  of  economics,  and  1  was  known  to  him, 
I  believe,  as  a  student  of  economics  who  knew  Karl  Marx — I  do 
not  mean  I  knew  Karl  Marx  myself,  but  Marx's  writings. 

And  he  approached  me  if  I  would  not  cooperate,  so  I  told  him  "I 
shall  be  willing  to  do  so,  if  it  is  not  to  be  as  a  member  of  the  editorial 
board  or  such  things,  but  simply  to  give  advices  on  articles  which 
appear,  or  the  kind  of  things  which  might  be  proposed  for  publica- 
tion, that  is,  the  kind  of  subjects  which  might  be  dealt  with  in  this 
type  of  magazine." 

I  agreed  to  do  so. 

Mr.  Morris.  Now,  did  you  ever  write  for  the  magazine  ? 

Mr,  Tsuru.  Not  that  I  recall,  but  I  may  have  written  one  book 
review. 

Mr.  Morris.  I  see.  Did  you  use  your  own  name  or  did  you  use  an- 
other name  ? 

Mr.  Tsuru.  I  used  the  name  of  Alfred  Z.  Lowe. 

Mr.  Morris.  What  is  the  meaning  of  Alfred  Z.  Lowe,  what  is  the 
significance  of  that  name  ? 

Mr.  Tsuru.  Well,  if  you  write  AZL  in  capital  letters,  those  of  the 
members  of  the  committee  who  know  the  Japanese  characters  would 
be  able  to  tell  those  three  letters  in  capital  letters  look  very  much  like 
Japanese  characters  Bon,  in  phonetics,  TO,  and  the  Japanese  char- 
acter Jin. 


3692       SCOPE    OF    SOVIET    ACTIVITY    IN    THE    UNITED    STATES 

Bon-To-Jin  used  to  be  my  pen  name  from  my  early  school  days. 

Mr.  Morris.  Would  you  tell  us  what  that  is  for  the  record — spell 
that  for  the  record  ? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  Bon-To-Jin,  B-o-n — T-o — J-i-n,  a  pen  name  which  I 
started  using  in  my  high-school  days  in  Japan,  and  which  I  still  con- 
tinue to  use  when  I  write  in  Japan  for  light  materials.  And  Bon 
means  common  or  ordinary,  To  means  urbane  or  urban,  and  Jin  means 
man.  To  happens  to  be  the  first  character  of  my  name  and  Jin 
happens  to  be  the  last  character  of  my  name  in  Japanese. 

Mr.  Morris.  Now  Mr.  Lowe  was  not  your  Communist  Party  alias, 
was  it  ? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  Oh,  no.  I  am  sorry,  I  have  never  been  a  member  of  th** 
Communist  Party,  nor  am  I. 

Mr.  Morris.  Well,  Mr.  Tsuru,  had  you  not  been  a  member  of  the 
Young  Communist  League  in  Japan  prior  to  your  coming  to  the 
United  States? 

Mr.  Tsuru.  No;  I  was  never  a  member  of  the  Young  Communist 
League  in  Japan.  I  think  Japanese  authorities  will  verify  that  for  me 
if  necessary. 

Mr.  INIoRRis.  Well  did  you  organize  the  Anti-Imperialism  League  ? 

Mr.  Tsuru.  I  was  a  member  of  the  Anti-Imperialism  League  when 
I  w^as  in 

Mr.  Morris.  What  is  the  Anti-Imperialism  League?  That  was  a 
form  of  the  Communist  organization  in  Japan,  was  it  not? 

Mr.  Tsuru.  Well,  one  is  free  to  interpret  that  if  you  like.  I  personal- 
ly do  not  think  so ;  1929  and  1930,  when  I  was  a  member  of  this  Anti- 
Imperialism  League  in  Japan,  was  the  period  when  Japan  was  about  to 
start  the  invasion  of  Manchuria.  And  we  younger  students  wanted  to 
oppose  that  invasion,  and  we  voluntarily  organized  what  we  called  the 
Anti-Imperialism  League.  When  I  say  "we",  actually  I  was  not  the 
first  one  to  do  so,  but  I  came  in  right  after  it  was  organized  in  my 
school.  The  main  purpose  was  to  oppose  the  Government  policy  as 
regards  China. 

Mr.  Morris.  Well  now,  you  were  arrested  in  connection  with  this 
activity,  were  you  not  ? 

Mr.  Tsuru.  I  was  arrested  in  December  1930  in  connection  with  this 
activity  but  released  without  indictment  after  about  2  months  and 
a  half. 

Mr.  Morris.  Now  were  you  also  associated  with  the  International 
Communist  Belief  Corps,  which  is  a  part  of  the  overall  MOPR — 
Soviet  Relief  Organization  ? 

Mr.  Tsuru.  I  do  not  believe  I  was. 

Mr.  Morris.  Did  you  have  any  dealings  with  that  organization  at 
all? 

Mr.  TsuRiT.  I  do  not  think  I  ever  did. 

Mr.  Morris.  How  about  the  Senki  ?  Senki,  which  translated  means 
warfly,  which  is  a  national  organization  of  the  Japanese  Communist 
Party.     Were  you  ever  associated  with  that  in  any  way? 

Mr.  Tsuru.  Senki  ? 

Mr.  Morris.  Senki. 

Mr.  Tsuru.  Oh,  Senki.  It  is  pronounced  Senki.  I  was  never  as- 
sociated with  that  magazine,  although  I  read  some  numbers  of  that 
magazine. 

Mr.  Morris.  But  you  did  not  write  for  it  ? 


SCOPE    OF    SOVIET   ACTIVITY    IN    THE    UNITED    STATES      3693 

Mr.  TsuRU.  I  never  wrote  one,  wrote  any,  article  or  review  or  any- 
thing for  that  magazine. 

Mr.  Morris.  All  right.  Now  in  connection  with  your  activity  at 
Harvard,  did  you  join  the  Communist  Party  while  you  were  at  Har- 
vard? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  I  never  joined  the  Communist  Party  anywhere  in  the 
world. 

Mr.  Morris.  I  see. 

The  reason  I  asked.  Senator,  if  you  come  to  know  these  documents, 
some  of  these  paj)ers  are  obviously  the  detailed  arrangements  that  are 
being  made  by  a  group  of  people  to  further  the  work  of  the  Commu- 
nist Party  in  the  United  States.  I  think,  Senator,  as  we  go  through 
these  particular  documents,  that  will  become  apparent. 

Mr.  Glover.  Mr.  Morris,  I  think  Mr.  Tsuru  may  want  to  respond 
to  your  characterization  of  these  letters. 

Mr.  Morris.  Even  before  we  finish  the  reading  ? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  You  have  already  characterized  the  letter  in  a  certain 
way.     So  since  it  is  the  letter  I  wrote,  if  I  may,  I  should  like  to 

Mr.  Morris.  Why  don't  we  wait  until  the  Senator  hears  it,  and  then 
you  may  say  anything  you  like  about  it  ? 

Senator  Johnston.  Proceed  with  the  reading  of  the  letter. 

Mr.  Mandel  (reading)  : 

The  prospectus  is  sufl3ciently  clear  in  this  regard.  It  is  as  regards  the  aspect 
in  the  use  of  the  magazine  as  an  active  propaganda  weapon  that  I  should  like 
to  develop  further.  We  have  already  various  forms  of  organization  for  the  edu- 
cational purposes,  for  example  the  Worker's  School. 

Mr.  Morris.  Now  when  you  say  "We  have  already  various  forms 
of  organization  for  the  educational  purposes,  such  as  the  Worker's 
School,"  what  do  you  mean  by  "We  have,"  Mr.  Tsuru  ? 

Mr.  Tsuru.  May  I  amplify  my  answer,  first,  by  giving  the  back- 
ground of  this  letter  so  that  I  can  explain  what  I  meant  by  "we"? 

Besides  attending  Lawrence  College  and  Harvard  University,  I 
also  attended,  I  think  on  three  different  occasions,  summer  sessions  of 
the  University  of  Wisconsin,  Madison.  I  also  attended,  not  regular 
sessions  but  occasional  lectures,  at  the  University  of  Chicago,  and  I 
came  to  know  a  number  of  people  in  Madison  and  Chicago  around 
1934  to  1937-38,  I  believe.  And  at  the  time,  of  course,  Japan  was 
preparing  its  China  war,  I  was  very  critical  of  the  Japanese  Govern- 
ment policy  as  regards  China,  and  I  was  very  eager  in  my  own  personal 
way  to  bring  about  a  situation  which  would  stop  Japan's  invasion 
of  China. 

I  had  no  organizational  relations  with  any  political  parties,  or  po- 
litical organizations,  but  I  came  to  know  a  large  number  of  people 
who  expressed  the  same  opinion  as  I  did  as  regards  Japan's  policy  on 
China.  Among  them  I  believe  there  were  a  number  of  Communists, 
although  I  never  attempted  to  identify  them.  It  was  not  necessary 
for  me  to  do  so  for  the  intellectual  purpose  I  had  in  mind. 

So  among  the  people  I  knew  in  Madison,  Chicago,  and  Cambridge, 
there  were  a  large  number  of  people  who  had,  let  us  say  in  general, 
leftist  tendencies.  And  in  association  with  them,  and  in  connection 
with  the  publication  of  Science  and  Society,  when  I  traveled,  I  saw 
them  and  discussed  the  question  of  the  use  of  the  magazine  Science 
^nd  Society. 


3694       SCOPE    OF    SOVIET   ACTIVITY    IN    THE    UNITED    STATES 

So  in  a  personal,  informal  letter  like  this,  I  miglit  have  said  "we" 
without  in  any  way  trying  to  say  that  "we,  some  organization." 

Senator  Jenner.  Who  were  some  of  these  Communists  then  that  you 
referred  to  as  "we"  ?    Name  them. 

Mr.  TsuRU.  Well,  I  want— pardon  me,  I  was  not  referring  to  Com- 
munists when  I  said  "we." 

Senator  Jenner.  Well,  left  wingers? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  People  whom  I  knew. 

Senator  Jenner.  You  called  them  left  wingers.  Communists.  "V^^io 
are  they  ?    Name  them  ? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  I  was  presented  with  this  letter  just  this  morning,  and 
I  shall  try  my  best 

Senator  Jenner.  You  have  had  the  letter,  you  have  studied  the 
letter.  Now  you  are  making  explanations  about  what  you  meant  by 
"we",  and  we  want  to  know  who  "we"  is. 

Mr.  TsuRU.  Actually,  I  may  have  written  some  names  in  one  of  the 
letters,  you  know 

Senator  Jenner.  Let's  talk  about  this  letter,  now. 

You  were  trying  to  explain  what  the  "we"  meant  in  that  letter,  let's 
talk  about  this  letter. 

Mr.  TsuRTT.  Well,  since  you  asked  the  names,  in  order  to  enable  me 
to  recollect  best,  if  I  can  look  through  the  letters  and  refresh  my  mem- 
ory about  the  names,  I  may  be  able  to  answer  this  question  better,  I 
think. 

Mr.  MoRRTs.  You  mean  you  cannot  recall  for  the  Senator  now  who 
the  people  you  refer  to  as  Communists  a  short  time  ago  are  ? 

Senator  Jenner,  In  Wisconsin  and  in  Chicago  and  at  Harvard? 
You  cannot  recall  a  single  name  ? 

Mr.  TsuRTJ.  Pardon  me.  At  Harvard — let  me  start  at  Harvard, 
shall  I? 

Senator  Jenner.  Well  we  were  out  in  Wisconsin  and  Chicago,  I 
thought. 

Mr.  TsTJRTJ.  You  see,  my  association  was  not  very  close  to  the  people 
there,  and  the  names  have  dropped  out  of  my  mind  a  long  time  ago. 
Now,  if  I  can  refresh  my  memory  by  going  through  all  these  letters, 
then  it  may  come  to  m.y  mind.   That  is  why  I  suggested  it. 

Senator  Jenner.  You  will  have  a  chance. 

Go  on  and  read  the  letter. 

Mr.  Morris.  May  I  ask  a  question? 

You  see.  Mr.  Tsuru,  you  said  this  "we"  was  used  in  a  very  loose 
sense,  but  I  think  that  very  sentence  we  are  talking  about  here  says 
"We  have  already  various  forms  of  organization"  with  the  word 
"organization"  underlined,  "for  the  educational  purposes,  such  as 
the  Workers  School." 

Senator  Jenner.  And  the  Workers  School  is  the  Communist  school 
in  Boston  ? 

Mr.  Morris.  And  it  was  right  in  Communist  Party  headquarters, 
was  it  not? 

Senator  Jenner.  Does  that  refresh  your  memory  ? 

Mr.  Morris.  1919  Washington  Street,  Boston. 

Senator  Jenner.  Does  that  refresh  your  memory  as  to  who  "we" 
was? 


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Mr.  TsuRU.  I  was  writing  from  Madison.  I  do  not  know  what 
Workers  School  I  refer  to.  I  may  have  referred  to  the  Workers  School 
in  Boston. 

Senator  Jenner.  You  did,  the  Workers  School. 

Mr.  TsuRU.  I  may  have  referred  to  the  Workers  School  in  Chicago. 
I  do  not  know  whether  a  Workers  School  existed  in  Chicago. 

Senator  Jenner.  It  was  also  a  Commmiist  school  in  Chicago, 
wasn't  it  ? 

Mr.  TsuRTj.  Well,  Senator,  if  I  may 

Senator  Jenner.  You  are  a  well  educated  man,  don't  try  to  banter 
this  committee  around,  just  tell  us  the  truth. 

Mr.  TsuRU.  I  am  not  going  to  avoid  any  questions.  I  am  trying  my 
best  to  reconstruct  the  circumstances  which  made  me  write  these  letters, 
and  trying  to  explain. 

As  I  said  earlier,  I  was  opposed  to  the  Japanese  invasion  of  China, 
and  probably  I  deliberately  sought  for  people  who  were  opposed  to 
the  same  and  also,  and  I  had  a  share  of  youthful  adventure,  and  I  am 
sure  I  overstepped  the  limits  of  propriety  in  my  association. 

I  do  not  deny  it.  However,  I  was  confident  in  my  own  mind  what  I 
believed  in,  and  I  thought  I  could  cope  with — probably  I  was  over- 
confident— I  thought  I  could  face  anyone  and  resist  any  temptation  of 
being  led  into  something.  So  I  was  ready  to  talk  with  Communists, 
ready  to  talk  with  Fascists,  ready  to  talk  with  anyone. 

So,  my  association,  you  might  say,  was  generally  free,  so  I  came 
in  contact  with  these  people  also.  But  those  whose  friendship  I 
cherished  best,  I  do  remember — even  though  a  long  time  ago — their 
names  and  so  on.  A  large  number  of  people  I  came  into  contact  with 
while  I  was  in  this  country  last  time,  and  in  certain  moments  of 
stresses,  I  may  have  clone  something  which,  in  my  own  deep  reflection, 
I  should  not  have  done.    And  I  regret  it  if  I  find  any  of  these  mistakes. 

The  very  fact  I  have  left  these  letters  back  in  my  apartment,  with- 
out even  taking  carie  of  them,  is,  I  think,  an  indication  that  my  records 
were  open  for  anyone  to  see. 

I  was  willing  to  answer  the  questions 

Mr.  Morris.  Mr.  Tsuru,  you  sent  someone  back  to  retrieve  the  let- 
ters, didn't  you  ? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  No ;  I  did  not.  Would  you  like  me  to  explain  the  cir- 
cumstances of  my 

Senator  Jenner.  Mr.  Chairman,  don't  you  think  we  ought  to  get  this 
one  letter  in  the  record  so  we  will  have  some  idea  of  what  we  are 
driving  at,  and  then  we  can  take  this  up  ? 

Senator  Johnston.  Yes ;  let's  go  ahead  with  the  letter. 

Mr.  IVIandel  (reading)  : 

The  existing  forms  are  adapted  mainly  for  the  members  of  the  working  class 
and  the  lower  middle  class  or  for  the  members  of  the  party  and  YOL — 

that  means  Young  Communist  League — 
Senator  Jenner.  What  party  were  you  referring  to  there  ? 
Mr.  TsnRu.  I  believe  this  reference  is  to  the  Communist  Party. 
Senator  Jenner.  For  the  party.    All  right,  go  ahead. 
Mr.  Mandel  (continuing  reading  letter)  : 

for  the  fairly  large  group  of  professionals  and  the  majority  of  the  middle  class, 
however,  we  either  have  not  developed  an  effective  organization  or  have  tried 
to  develop  one  without  success. 


3696       SCOPE    OF    SOVIET   ACTIVITY    IN    THE    UNITED    STATES 

Mr.  Morris.  There,  again,  you  use  the  word  "we,"  do  you  not,  Mr. 
Tsuru? 

Mr.  Tsuru.  Well,  you  keep  on  pressing  me  on  that. 

Mr.  Morris.  Here  you  are  talkmg  about  "we"  you  are  using  the  ex- 
pression "we,"  Mr.  Tsuru,  and  you  are  talking  about  "we"  have  need 
of  a  certain  organization. 

Senator  Jenner.  The  party,  the  party  has  the  need  for  it. 

Mr.  Tsuru.  Mr.  Chairman,  may  I  respond  to  this  question? 

Senator  Johnston.  Proceed. 

Mr.  Tsuru.  If  you  are  trying  to  establish  the  fact  that  I  was  a 
member  of  the  Communist  Party  or  the  YCL,  as  I  am  under  oath,  I 
can  truthfully  say  I  never  was.  But  if  you  are  trying  to  establish  the 
fact  that  I  had  associations  with  persons  who  were  known  to  me  as 
either  members  of  the  Communist  Party,  or  at  least  pretty  close  to 
the  Communist  Party,  then  I  think  I  did  associate  with  such  people. 

Senator  Jenner.  Name  some  of  them. 

Senator  Johnston.  Didn't  you  go  just  a  step  further  than  that? 
You  aided  them  and  advised  them  how  to  organize  and  go  forward. 
Didn't  you  also  do  that  ? 

Mr.  Morris.  I  call  your  attention,  Senator,  to  the  fact  the  word 
"organization"  in  that  1  paragraph  is  underscored  3  times. 

Mr.  Tsuru.  As  I  said  earlier,  under  the  circumstances  of  the  1930's, 
I  may  have  gone  beyond  the  limits  of  what  I  considered  to  be  my 
proper  action.  I  was  quite  young,  sort  of  adventurous,  so  I  can  well 
imagine  myself  in  making  such  mistakes.  But  I  was  never  a  member 
of  the  Communist  Party. 

I  have  become  increasingly  critical  of  Marxism,  let  alone  the  Com- 
munist political  policies,  and  such  critical  attitudes  of  mine  are  a  matter 
of  public  records  in  Japan. 

Mr.  Morris.  On  that  point,  Mr.  Tsuru,  may  I  just  mention  here: 
You  know  the  book  the  Theory  of  Capitalist  Development  by  Paul 
M.  Sweezy  ? 

Mr.  Tsuru.  Yes;  I  do. 

Mr.  Morris.  You  wrote  part  of  that  book ;  did  you  not  ? 

Mr.  Tsuru.  I  did  write  an  appendix  to  that  book. 

Mr.  Morris.  That  has  just  been  republished,  has  it  not,  by  the 
Monthly  Review  Press  here  in  the  United  States  ? 

Mr.  Tsuru.  So  I  understand ;  yes. 

Mr.  Morris.  And  hasn't  Maurice  Dobb,  the  famous  economist  in 
England,  just  written  a  very  favorable  review  of  that  book? 

Mr.  Tsuru.  I  have  not  read  any  book  review  by  Mr.  Dobb  recently. 

Mr.  Morris.  I  read  here  from  this  book  for  which  you  have  written 
an  appendix : 

This  is  the  first  comprehensive  study  of  Marxian  political  economy  in  English. 
Out  of  print  for  several  years,  it  is  reprinted  because  of  increasing  demand.  It 
should  lead  to  better  understanding  of  an  enormously  influential  current  of 
social  thought  which  has  often  suffered  from  ignorant  and  superficial  treat- 
ment. 

I  also  might  point  out,  in  the  accompanying  circular  there  is  a 
book  recommended  by  Solomon  Adler. 

Mr.  Tsuru.  May  I  comment  on  this  point  ? 

Mr.  Morris.  Yes,  Mr.  Tsuru. 

Mr.  Tsuru.  The  appendix  I  wrote  for  Mr.  Sweezy's  book  I  be- 
lieve is  called  On  Reproduction  Schemes.    It  is  a  comparison  of  re- 


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production  schemes  of  three  economists :  One  is  Quesnay,  another  is 
Karl  Marx,  and  another  is  John  M.  Keynes.  And  it  is  extremely,  as 
I  consider  it,  a  technical  treatment  of  the  manner  in  which  three 
economists  in  the  past  have  dealt  with  the  question  of  social  flow  of 
commodities  in  a  simplified  form, 

Mr.  Morris.  Mr.  Mandel,  will  you  continue  reading  the  letter, 
please  ? 

Mr.  Mandel  (reading)  : 

It  seems  to  me  that  the  main  cause  of  this  failure  lies  in  the  fact  that  the  group 
in  question  generally  abhors  organization  and  that  we  did  not  accommodate  our 
policy  to  that  characteristic.  Tied  up  with  their  abhorrence  to  organization  is  the 
fact  that  most  of  them  have  very  specific  organization  is  the  fact  that  most  of  them 
have  very  specific  interest,  especially  in  the  case  of  professional  groups.  Engi- 
neers are  first  of  all  interested  in  engineering.  Social  case  workers  are  interested 
more  in  psychiatry  than  in  dialectic  materialism  in  general.  Now,  to  meet  this 
special  circumstance,  the  flexible  form  of  study  groups,  in  my  opinion,  is  a  most 
appropriate  answer.  These  study  groups  shall  originate,  needless  to  say  through 
our  initiative,  along  the  most  natural  and  easy  tie  of  association.  For  instance, 
the  Korb's  group  in  Cambridge  arose  among  those  who  were  dissatisfied  in  the 
Marx  seminale.  Lunning's  group  arose  among  the  members  of  the  law  school.  A 
group  may  originate  through  the  fact  of  professional  homogeneity,  like  in  the 
case  of  social  caseworkers.  A  group  may  originate  through  the  preexisting 
social  ties.  A  study  group  on  Plato  may  turn  into  a  study  group  on  Marx,  as 
has  been  done  this  summer  in  Madison.  In  short,  study  groups  will  avoid  the 
formal  aspect  of  organization  as  much  as  possible  and  make  use  of  the  special 
interests  which  professional  groups  possess.  The  Association  of  Marxian 
Studies  can  come  only  after  this.  It  will  turn  out  to  be  harmful  or  ineffective 
if  we  organize  the  association  too  prematurely  in  any  particular  locality.  In 
either  case,  the  magazine  serves  as  a  weapon  for  promoting,  as  well  as  in  con- 
ducting and  developing,  such  study  groups. 

No  less  important  than  the  foregoing  point,  however,  is  the  necessity  of  leading 
ordinary  members  of  these  study  groups  into  a  more  mature  form  of  organization 
or  of  activities.  To  be  a  member  of  a  study  group  may  be  a  step  toward  enrolling 
the  worker's  school ;  it  may  be  a  step  toward  joining  the  American  League  Against 
War  and  Fascism ;  it  may  be  a  step  toward  becoming  a  member  of  TCL  or  of  the 
party.  It  is  absolutely  necessary  to  keep  a  study  group  from  becoming  a  self- 
perpetuating,  stagnant  cloister  for  the  few. 

As  to  the  relation  between  the  educational  activities  centered  around  the 
magazine  and  those  of  the  worker's  schools,  I  do  not  think  there  is  any  conflict 
or  duplication.  The  former  apply  to  those  groups  which  usually  cannot  be 
reached  by  the  worker's  school  on  account  of  their  abhorrence  to  organization 
or  of  their  too  speciflc  an  interest. 

Now,  as  to  what  has  been  done  i/n  Madison  and  Chicago.  In  Madison,  the 
practical  step  has  been  already  taken,  although  the  major  portion  of  it  will 
not  be  effected  until  the  university  opens  in  September.  At  present,  there  are 
three  study  groups  going.  Two  among  members  of  the  Farm  Labor  Progressive 
Federation,  one  using  Corey's  The  Decline  of  American  Capitalism,  aind  the  other 
Engels'  Anti-Duhring.  The  first  group  consists  mainly  of  clerical  workers.  The 
third  group  is  among  students  of  the  university  ;  it  has  been  carried  on  during  the 
summer  session  in  the  form  similar  to  that  of  the  group  on  dialectic  materialism 
in  Cambridge.  The  teacher's  unit  appointed  a  special  committee  headed  by  the 
agent  for  the  magazine  to  outline  concrete  avenues  of  approach  in  the  educa- 
tional activities  centered  around  the  magazine.  The  report  has  been  submitted 
and  the  discussion  on  it  is  going  on.  In  Chicago  the  practical  step  has  not  yet 
been  taken.  There  the  question  of  cooperation  with  the  worker's  school  has  to 
be  settled.  In  fact,  a  member  of  its  staff,  I  am  informed,  has  expressed  in  his 
casual  talk  a  sense  of  alarm  at  the  possibility  of  duplication.  I  think  that  suc"h 
an  alarm  is  largely  based  upon  the  misunderstanding  of  the  nature  of  study 
groups  which  the  association  is  to  organize.  Miss  Constance  Kyle,  who  probably 
will  act  as  the  main  agent  for  the  magazine  in  the  Chicago  district,  tells  me 
that  there  are  many  possibilities  of  study  groups  among  those  people  whom  the 
school  will  not  be  able  to  reach  effectively.  The  association  will  not  go  beyond 
filling  such  a  gap.    On  this  matter,  I  shall  try  to  discuss  with  the  staff  of  the 


3698       SCOPE    OF    SOVIET    ACTIVITY    IN    THE    UNITED    STATES 

school  when  I  go  to  Chicago  in  a  few  days,  and  shall  report  to  you  on  the  result. 
But  meanwhile,  I  think  it  will  help  a  great  deal  toward  clarifyi-ng  the  matter  here 
if  you  let  me  know  as  soon  as  possible  your  reaction  to  my  report  above.  In 
the  matter  of  the  association,  as  well  as  in  that  of  the  magazine,  I  have  constantly 
asked  for  suggestions  of  K.  H.  Niebyl. 
In  order  to  facilitate 

Senator  Johnston.  Wait  a  minute.   Who  was  Niebyl  ? 

Mr.  TsuRTJ.  Mr.  Niebyl  was  an  economist  whom  I  met  for  the  first 
time,  I  think,  in  the  summer  of  1933  in  Madison,  Wis.  He  was  stucl}^- 
in^  economics  at  the  University  of  Wisconsin  at  the  time. 

IMr.  INIoRRis.  Did  you  know  him  to  be  a  Communist  ? 

Mr.  TsTjRU.  I  had  suspicion  that  he  was  pretty  close  to — I  knew 
he  had  come  from  Germany  after  Hitler's  coming  into  power,  so 
anyone  who  has  been  sort  of  ousted,  or  came  out  of  Germany  under 
Hitler,  I  interpreted  it  to  be  sort  of  leftish.  And  from  conversations, 
I  gathered  that  he  was  pretty  close  to  the  Communist  activities. 

Mr.  Morris.  To  answer  your  question.  Senator  Johnston,  Karl  H. 
Niebyl  is  a  director  of  economics  section  and  publication  sections  of 
the  Editor  Review  and  Forecast ;  has  a  Doctor  of  Philosophy  degree 
from  the  University  of  Wisconsin;  INIaster  of  Arts  degree  from  the 
University  of  Frankfurt;  was  a  fellow  in  economics.  University  of 
Wisconsin ;  has  also  done  graduate  studies  at  the  University  of  London, 
London  School  of  Economics,  and  the  University  of  Paris,  University 
of  Frankfurt,  and  University  of  Berlin.  He  became  assistant  pro- 
fessor of  economics  in  Carleton  College,  and  later  on  he  became  the 
economic  adviser  on  monetary  and  fiscal  policies  for  the  Advisory 
Commission  to  the  Council  on  National  Defense.  He  is  an  associate 
professor  of  economics  and  chairman  of  the  graduate  department  of 
economics  at  Tulane  University,  where  we  presume  he  now  is,  Senator. 
I  do  not  know  exactly.  And  his  name  appears  in  the  Abraham  Lincoln 
School  catalog  in  the  fall  of  1943,  whence  this  information  I  have 
just  read  is  taken. 

Senator  Johnston.  Fine.    Proceed. 

Mr.  Mandel  (reading  further)  : 

In  order  to  facilitate  the  task  of  the  agent  in  Chicago  in  coordinating  the 
campaign  in  the  adjoining  districts,  I  should  like  you  to  send  us  immediately 
the  list  of  names  and  addresses  of  those  persons  in  the  Middle  West  district 
whom  you  have  already  contacted.  Especially  persons  connected  with  the 
universities. 

All  the  subscribers  around  here  are  eagerly  looking  forward  to  the  appearance 
of  the  magazine.  I  hope  that  the  first  issue  will  be  published  in  October  as  has 
been  promised,  and  not  in  November  or  December ! 

Signed  "Sincerely,  Tsuru." 

Mr.  Morris.  Now,  Senator,  I  think  the  answer  from  Mr,  Parry 
to  Mr.  Tsuru  to  that  letter  is  important,  particularly  because  of  this 
paragraph.  I  would  like  this  to  be  offered  with  that  first  letter, 
Senator,  because  the  two  are  together. 

If  I  may  read  this  one  paragraph  ? 

Senator  Johnston.  Proceed. 

Mr.  Morris  (reading)  : 

On  the  matter  of  the  study  groups  discussed  in  your  last  letter  especially 
Mr.  Glover.  Mr.  Morris,  could  you  tell  us  which  one- 


Mr.  Morris.  This  is  the  answer  of  September  6.    This  is  the  letter 
that  is  probably  appended  to  the  first  one.    [Reading :] 


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On  the  matter  of  the  study  groups  cUscaissed  in  your  last  letter  especially: 
I  do  not  see  how  there  can  be  any  doubt  that  such  study  groups  are  a  very  desir- 
able thing.  Unquestionably  they  can  bring  in  many  people  who  would  not  go 
to  the  workers  school.  They  do  not  conflict  with  the  workers  school.  It  is  the 
duty  of  the  more  advanced  members  of  the  groups  to  dravr  the  others  closer  to 
the\-evolutionary  movement  by  involving  them  in  activities,  as  you  suggest; 
If  anyone  raises  any  objection  to  these  study  groups 

Seiicator  Johnston.  Wait  a  minute.  What  do  you  mean  by  "revo- 
lutionary movement"  ?  _ 

Mr.  TsuEU.  This  is  not  my  writing. 

Senator  Jennek.  This  is  in  reply. 

Senator  Johnston.  It  is  an  answer  to  you,  though.  He  is  talking 
to  you  about  the  matter,  and  he  expects  you  to  understand  what  it 
means. 

Mr.  TsuRU.  I  do  not  think  I  mentioned  about  revolution  m  my 

letter. 

Senator  Johnston.  I  know  you  did  not,  but  he  is  writing  back  to 

you. 

Mr.  jMorris.  xlnd  attributing  it  to  you. 

Mr.  TsuRU.  Well,  if  it  is  iii^  answer  to  my  letter,  you  see,  he  is  at- 
tributing something  which  I  did  not  mention. 

Senator  Johnston.  I  know,  but  how  do  you  answer  that  ? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  He  is  attributing  more  than 

Senator  Johnston.  That  shows  what  he  is  thinking  about  the 
letter  which  you  wrote  to  him. 

Mr.  TsuRU.  I  cannot  conjecture  about  his  own  mind. 

Senator  Johnston,  ^^liat  is  that  ? 

Mr.  TsuRU,  I  cannot  conjecture  as  to  Mr.  Parry's 

Senator  Johnston.  I  do  not  think  there  is  much  conjecture  in 
there.  I  think  he  realizes  what  he  is  talking  to  you  about,  and  I  think 
you  realize  what  he  is  talking  about,  too. 

Mr.  TsuRU.  I  think  my  intention  at  the  time,  if  you  would  like  me 
to  answer  as  fully  as  I  can,  was  to  make  Science  and  Society  a  success 
as  a  magazine.    And  once  I  set  my  mind  to  doing  so,  I  did  it  as 

Senator  Johnston.  Success  for  whom  ? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  Success — well,  from  my  own  point  of  view,  I  think  I 
have  already  said  it  before,  but,  I  was  very  much  interested  in  up- 
setting the  Japanese  program  of  invasion  in  China,  and  I  was  quite 
adA^enturous  in  that  respect. 

If  you  ask  me  about  the  positions  I  did  take  in  those  days,  or  earlier, 
some  of  these  letters  which  I  just  left  back,  it  is  very_  difficult  for  me 
to  justify  now  because  I  entirely  take  a  different  position  at  present. 
And  at  present,  you  see,  my  views  on  these  matters  are  so  different 
that  it  is  really  painful  for  me.  I  know  it  is  a  duty  for  me  to  answer 
your  questions  but  it  is  painful  for  me  to  try  to  develop  all  the  ramifi- 
cations of  those  excesses  which  I  committed. 

If  you  ask  my  present  views,  then  it  is  much  easier  for  me.  And 
especially,  Mr.  Parry  says,  "revolutionary  movement";  I  did  not  say 
it.  What  I  was  trying  to  do,  I  think,  in  this  exchange  of  letters  with 
Mr.  Parry  was  to  make  Science  and  Society  a  success.  That  was —  I 
think  that  must  have  been,  my  intention  in  writing  such  letters. 

Mr.  Morris.  When  you  refer  in  your  article,  of  January  1954,  as 
to  the  "stealthy  footsteps  of  America,"  what  do  you  mean  by  that? 
You  took  a  position,  Mr.  Tsuru,  did  you  not,  opposing  the  position 

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of  the  United  States  in  implementing  the  United  Nations  Resolution 
on  Genocide  and  criticizing  the  Anglo-Americans  for  deliberately  dis- 
torting the  not  unreasonable  reply  of  November  1954  of  the  Soviet 
Union. 

Do  you  remember  that  article  ? 

Mr.  Glover.  Do  you  have  a  copy  of  it,  Mr.  Morris  ? 

Mr.  Morris.  Not  with  me.    I  will  have  it  for  you  tomorrow. 

Mr.  TsuRU.  I  think  I  do  remember  it. 

May  I  answer  that  question  ? 

Senator  Johnston.  Surely. 

Mr.  TsuRu.  I  think  Mr.  Morris  has  referred  to  two  aspects  of  the 
article.  One  was  the  question  of  genocide ;  the  other  was  a  question 
of  the  failure  of  the  United  States  and  United  Kingdom  Government 
to  reply  to  the  Soviet  note  of  November  1954 — failed  to  reply 
promptly. 

Now,  as  to  the  question  of  genocide,  we  are  very  much  concerned 
about  that  question  in  Japan.  The  Japanese  Army  itself  has  been 
suspected  of  trying  to  develop  the  genocide  weapon  during  the  Second 
World  War,  and  I  have  no  authentic  proof,  but  I  have  a  suspicion 
that  at  least  they  tried  to  do  so. 

So,  when  various  indications  arose  as  to  the  use  of  genocide 
weapons — I  am  sorry,  the  genocide  weapon  is  the  weapon  which  kills 
a  large  number  of  people 

Mr.  Morris.  The  genocide  resolution  is,  of  course,  the  resolution  to 
the  eliminating  of  a  whole  nation. 

Mr.  TsuRU.  May  I  retract  what  I  said  ?  I  was  under  a  misunder- 
standing. 

Mr.  Morris.  Perhaps  you  would  like  to  let  your  answer  go  until 
you  see  the  article  fully.  Mr.  Tsuru.^ 

Mr.  TsuRU.  I  think  I  can  recall,  however,  because  I  think  I  can  guess 
what  you  are  trying  to  make  me  answer. 

I  have  been  known  as  an  anti-American  in  Japan  in  the  postwar. 
Because  I  think  I  have  expressed  my  views  publicly  as  regards  a  num- 
ber of  problems  to  which  America  has  been  closely  connected. 

One  is  the  question  of  experimental  explosion  of  nuclear  weapons; 
the  other  the  question  of  the  political  restrictions  on  Japan's  trade 
with  mainland  China.  Another  is  the  question  of  the  United  States 
foreign  policy  as  a  whole. 

Mr.  Morris.  Mainland  China  being  what  we  know  as  Red  China  ? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  I  use  the  words  "mainland  China"  because  the  United 
Nations  use  that  expression  in  referring  to  the  Continent  of  China. 

And  another  one  is  with  respect  to  the  question  of  so-called  strings 
attached  to  the  American  aid. 

On  these  number  of  questions  I  have  expressed  my  views  in  public, 
and  the  passage  which  Mr.  Morris  read  refers  to,  I  believe 

Senator  Johnston.  When  you  say  "strings  attached  to  foreign  aid" 
what  do  you  mean  there  ? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  You  would  like 

Senator  Johnston.  I  would  like  to  know  just  what  you  mean. 

]\Ir.  TsuRU.  I  criticized  that  aspect  especially  in  connection  with 
what  we  call  mutual  security  agreement  between  Japan  and  the 


1  Following  the  hearing  Mr.  Tsuru  furnished  the  subcommittee  with  a  copy  of  the  article 
which  was  placed  in  the  files. 


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United  States.  We  received  aid  of  wheat  in  the  first  instance  from  the 
United  States  under  the  mutual  security  agreement.  Subsequently, 
such  aid  of  wheat  shipment  was  formalized  in  the  form  of  surplus  agri- 
cultural disposal,  and  which  I  think  the  Japanese  Government  nego- 
tiated already  about  three  times. 

The  mechanism  of  the  aid  is  to  ship,  let  us  say,  American  wheat  or 
cotton  to  Japan,  sell  these  products  to  the  Japanese  against  Japanese 
local  currency,  and  this  local  currency  is  accumulated  as  a  counterpart 
fund,  and  this  counterpart  fund  is  used  to  fill  various  purposes  for  the 
development  of  Japan. 

Now  the  part  I  objected  to  most  was  the  degree  of  control  which 
America  seems  to  have  insisted  on  on  the  disposal  of  the  counterpart 
funds.  I  felt,  if  it  was  to  be  an  aid  f i-om  the  United  States,  and  it  was 
called  an  aid,  I  felt  it  would  be  best  for  the  mutual  relations  between 
the  United  States  and  Japan  if  the  disposal  of  the  counterpart  fund 
was  entirely  left  in  the  hands  of  the  Japanese  Government,  whereas, 
the  use  of  the  counterpart  fund,  to  a  greater  degree,  was  controlled  by 
the  United  States,  especially  in  the  direction  at  first  of  expanding 
Japanese  armaments. 

I  hold  the  view,  even  now,  that  Japan  should  not  arm  too  fast,  and 
I  had  various  indications  that  the  United  States  Government  was 
pressing  the  Japanese  Government  to  arm  beyond  what  I  would  con- 
sider the  proper  limit  at  the  present  time,  especially  in  view  of  the 
fact  we  have  the  article  IX  in  our  Constitution  which  clearly  states 
that  we  renounce  war  and  have  no  armaments,  either  of  land,  sea,  or 
air,  in  the  future. 

So  I  called  such  a  degree  of  controls  over  surplus  disposal  counter- 
part funds  as  "strings"  attached." 

Senator  Jenner.  Counterpart  fund,  though,  is  a  fund  owned  by 
the  United  States  Government,  isn't  it?  They  belong  to  us,  why 
should  you  have  the  say  about  spending  our  money  ? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  Excuse  me.  Senator.  According  to  the  agricultural 
surplus  disposal  negotiations,  I  believe  the  counterpart  fund  is  re- 
garded as  a  loan  by  the  United  States  Government  to  the  Japanese 
Government.  It  is  a  loan,  a  loan  repayable  either  in  yen  or  dollars. 
If  it  is  to  be  repaid  in  dollars,  then  the  rate  of  interest  is  lower  than 
if  we  repaid  in  yen.    But  it  is  a  loan. 

Senator  Jenner.  INIr.  Chairman,  I  would  like  to  ask  this  witness  a 
question.  He  says  he  is  going  to  be  on  the  Voice  of  America  program 
right  away. 

Have  you  prepared  your  manuscript  yet  for  the  Voice  of  America  ? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  I  have  not — the  suggestion  came  to  me,  I  believe,  before 
I  received  a  subpena  from  your  committee.  I  agreed  to  do  so,  and 
the  date  was  set  for  April  18.  So  I  thought  it  was  a  very  good  oppor- 
tunity for  me  to  express  my 

Senator  Jenner.  Anti -American  views  ? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  No,  sir. 

Senator  Jenner.  Well  you  said  you  were  known  as  an  anti- 
American. 

Mr.  TsuRU.  I  said  I  was  known,  but  I  was  trying  to  explain  what 
my  position  was,  and  I  was  sort  of  interrupted. 

Senator  Jenner.  I  do  not  quite  understand  some  of  your  explana- 
tions.   Are  you  here  on  a  United  States  Government  grant? 

Mr.TsuRU.  No,  sir. 


3702       SCOPE    OF    SOVIET   ACTIVITY    IN    THE    UNITED    STATES 

Senator  Jenner.  How  are  you  here  at  Harvard  University  now? 

Mr.  TsuRTT.  Well  I  think  I  explained  it  at  first.  I  am  on  the 
American- Japan  intellectual  interchange  program. 

Senator  Jenner.  Would  you  tell  us  a  little  more  about  that  ? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  I  personally  do  not  know  the  details  of  this  program. 

Senator  Jenner.  Who  furnishes  the  money  ? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  It  is  operated  by  Columbia  Universit3\ 

Senator  Jenner.  Columbia  ? 

Mr.  TsuRu.  And  I  think  it  is — well,  since  I  do  not  know  the  details 
probably  I  should  not  say  so.  That  is  the  extent  I  needed  to  Imow. 
And  under  this  program,  I  was  to  be  a  visiting  lecturer  at  Harvard 
University. 

But^  Mr.  Chairman,  I  was  trying  to  explain  earlier  my  position  and 
I  was  niterrupted.   I  would  like  to  finish  it  if  I  may  ? 

Senator  Jenner.  Your  position  on  what  ? 

Senator  Johnston.  On  what  ? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  On  what  I  was  called  or  regarded  as  an  anti- American 
in  Japan,  and  also  the  question 

Senator  Jenner.  But  you  are  not  anti-iVmerican  ? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  Not  anti-American.  You  see,  I  have  been  criticized 
as  being  anti-American. 

Senator  Johnston.  Who  criticized  you  as  being  anti-American  ? 

Mr.  TsuRu.  Well  I  have  indications — I  do  nof  recall  any  definite 
printed  version  of  this,  but  I  have  indications  that  I  have  been  re- 
garded as  an  anti-American.  But  I  just  wanted  to  finish  it  very 
briefly,  what  I  was  trying  to  say 

Senator  Johnston.  So  much  so  as  to  have  nivited  you  into  the 
Communist  Party,  isn't  that  right  ? 

Mr.  TsuRu.  The  Communist  Party  ? 

Senator  Johnston.  They  never  did  invite  you  to  join  the  Com- 
munist Party  ? 

Mr.  TsuRu.  Never. 

Senator  Johnston.  No  one?  No  one  ever  discussed  anything 
about  that? 

Mr.  TsTjRu.  No  one  did. 

Mr.  Morris,  Senator,  may  I  just  finish  that  last  sentence  that  I 
was  reading  here  ?  [Reading :] 

It  is  the  duty  of  the  more  aclvanced  members  of  the  groups  to  draw  the  others 
closer  to  the  revoutionary  movement  by  involving  them  in  activities,  as  you 
suggest.  If  anyone  raises  any  objection  to  these  study  groups,  see  to  it  that  his 
position  is  corrected,  if  necessary  appealing  to  the  district  leadership. 

_Now  isn't  that  advice  to  you  to  take  the  problem  up  with  the  dis- 
trict leadership  of  the  Communist  Party  if  you  have  any  dissention 
whatever  in  following  out  your  plan  ? 

Mr.  TsijRU.  Well  here  again,  the  only  way  I  can  answer,  I  think, 
is  I  committed  excesses,  and  I  had  committed  mistakes  in  widening 
too  much  my  association  with  various  people,  and  probably  I  was  too 
eager  to  make  Science  and  Society  a  success  at  the  time.  But  truth- 
fully, I  never  was  a  member  of  the  Communist  Party ;  I  never  identi- 
fied anyone  as  a  member. 

Senator  Jenner.  When  you  got  a  letter  like  that,  referring  to  tak- 
ing it  up  with  the  district  leadership,  to  whom  did  you  think  he  was 
directing  his  remarks  ?  Was  there  any  doubt  in  your  mind,  did  you 
question  him  about  it?  l^^io  was  the  district  leadership  he  was  re- 
ferring to  in  his  reply  to  your  letter  ? 


SCOPE    OF    SOVIET    ACTIVITY   IN   THE    UNITED    STATES       3703 

Mr.  TsTJKU.  I  was  concerned  only  Avitli  Science  and  Society,  and  I 
suppose  I  interpreted  this 

Senator  Jeniv^etj.  Did  you  tell  him  that  you  were  not  interested  in 
district  leadership,  you  were  only  concerned  with  Science  and  Society? 
Did  you  tell  this  gentleman  that  ? 

Mr.  TsuKTJ.  No. 

Senator  Jennt:r.  No  ? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  Excuse  me,  may  I  answer  it  ? 

Senator  Jenner.  Yes. 

Mr.  TsTTRu.  I  was  interested  in  Science  and  Society,  mainly,  so 
probably  I  interpreted  the  sentence  to  mean  so  far  as  Science  and 
Society  is  concerned. 

Senator  Jexner.  Did  the  Science  and  Society  have  a  district 
leadership  ? 

Mr.  TsuRu.  No,  it  did  not,  sir.  "Well,  we  had  a  number  of  people 
who  were  interested  in  developing  this  magazine,  Science  and  Society, 
in  different  districts. 

Senator  Jexner.  Yes.  a  journal  dedicated  to  the  growth  of  Marxism 
scholarship.  Isn't  that  the  purpose  of  Science  and  Society,  a  journal 
dedicated  to  the  growth  of  Marxian  scholarship  ? 

Mr.  TsTJRU.  I  think  that  was  the  purpose  of  the  Science  and  Society 
at  the  time.  But  may  I  say,  as  I  understand  Marxism,  and  as  I  un- 
derstand it  now — Marxism,  I  understand  it  as  a  body  of  doctrines 
which  contains  a  number  of  elements.  I  was  interested  mainly  in  the 
economic  analysis  part.  I  should  say  that  Marx's  contributions  can 
be  generally  classified  into  three  parts :  His  vision,  his  analysis  of  the 
society,  and  his  political  programs.  I  was  mainly  interested  in  the 
analysis  of  the  society  part,  and  so  far  as  Marx's  analysis  of  social 
development  was  concerned,  I  was  a  student  of  it. 

I  did  make  various  studies  myself.  I  tried  to  test  hypotheses  of 
INIarx  as  regards  the  development  of  society,  especially  in  terms  of 
Japan.  And  I  found  some  of  these  hypotheses  applied  to  the  case  of 
Japan,  especially  during  the  period  of  development  from  feudalism 
to  capitalism  in  the  mid-19th  century.  As  a  man  in  the  profession  of 
scholarship,  I  wanted  to  keep  on  testing  the  hypotheses  on  various 
parts  of  the  world.  But  I  have  taken  the  position,  even  then  and  now 
much  more  strongly  than  before,  some  of  the  hypotheses,  even  in  this 
economic  analysis  part  of  Karl  IMarx,  were  entirely  wrong.  For  ex- 
ample, the  thesis  that  the  working  class  would  become  increasingly 
poor  as  capitalism  develops.  I  hold  the  view  that  his  diagnosis  in  this 
regard  is  entirely  wrong,  opposite  to  the  fact. 

Marx  says  that  there  is  a  tendency  toward  a  falling  rate  of  profit 
under  capitalism.    I  also  question  it. 

Mr.  IMoRRis.  You  question  it  now,  or  you  questioned  it  then  ? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  I  question  it  now,  yes. 

Mr.  Morris.  Senator,  I  think  maybe  Mr.  Tsuru  misunderstands  our 
asking  about  these  particular  memorandums.  We  came  upon  these 
recently.  Senator,  in  connection  with  another  inquiry  that  is  going  on, 
and  they  reflected  the  intimate  detailed  organization  of  an  important 
portion  of  the  Communist  Party  as  operating  in  the  late  1930's  and 
1940's  in  the  United  States. 

One  of  the  persons  that  we  have  seen  so  far,  at  least  went  on  to  what 
seems  to  be  an  important  Government  office  from  there.  There  are 
names  throughout  these  papers  that  are  of  great  interest  to  us.    Some 


3704      SCOPE    OF    SOVIET    ACTIVITY    IN    THE    UNITED    STATES 

of  these  people  have  been,  in  the  late  1950's,  witnesses  before  the  com- 
mittee, and  apparently,  were  still  then  Communists.  It  details  a  great 
deal  of  information  and  evidence  which  is  going  to  be  very  helpful  to 
the  committee. 

Now  it  occurred  to  us.  Senator,  that  the  man  who  wrote  these  letters, 
particularly  later  on  when  he  talks  about  comrades  and  party  fac- 
tions, that  obviously  such  a  man  writing  these  letters  must,  himself,  be 
right  in  the  middle  of  the  whole  thing. 

So,  we  want  from  Mr.  Tsuru,  a  detailed  expression  as  to  what  went 
on.  Perhaps  his  information  will  tell  us  a  great  deal  about  the  present 
Communist  organizations  now  going  on. 

x\nd  I  think  that  your  reference  to  what  your  present  position  is 
now  in  connection  with  Marx  or  something,  is  nothing,  Mr.  Tsuru, 
that  is  of  interest  to  us.  "Wliat  we  are  interested  in  is  the  Communist 
Party  as  it  is  now  operating  in  the  United  States. 

Mr.  Tsuru.  Now  operating  in  the  United  States  ? 

Mr.  Morris.  Yes,  as  reflected  by  these  papers  that  you  have  identified 
are  yours,  and  with  the  aid  of  which,  I  think  you  told  us,  you  were 
going  to  tell  who  the  Communists  were  whom  you  knew  and  worked 
with  at  that  time. 

Mr.  Glover.  Mr.  Morris,  if  I  may,  there  is  a  20-year  interval  between 
these  letters,  and  now 

Mr.  Morris.  They  were  left  in  1942.    These  letters  go  up  to  1942. 

Mr.  Glover.  The  ones  we  are  looking  at  now  are  dated  1936. 

Mr.  Morris.  This  particular  one.  Now,  as  you  know,  Mr.  Parry 
was  teaching  at  Harvard  in  1953,  and,  apparently,  the  evidence  indi- 
cated he  was  still  a  Communist.  Now,  Mr.  Niebyl,  you  indicated  you 
suspected  was  a  Communist ;  is  that  right  ? 

Mr.  Tsuru.  That  is  right. 

Mr.  Morris.  And  there  is,  as  you  will  notice  back  here  later  on,  a 
whole  breakup  of  1,  2,  3,  4,  5,  6,  7,  8  study  groups  which  you  were  then 
writing  to  Mr.  Niebyl  about — I  do  not  know  whether  that  was  up  in 
Cambridge — which  included  over  100  ]3eople.  Now,  perhaps  you  will 
tell  us  about  all  those  things. 

Senator  Johnston.  I  would  like  to  call  attention  to  the  attorney 
that  the  Senate  is  in  session  and  is  really  meeting  right  now.  I  suppose 
this  might  be  a  good  place  to  break  and  come  back  tomorrow,  and  it 
will  give  him  time  to  read  his  manuscripts  here,  and  identify  them  for 
the  record  tomorrow. 

Mr.  Morris.  All  right,  Senator.  I  would  like  to  offer  for  the  record 
at  least  those  two  letters,  the  letter  of  Mr.  Tsuru  and  the  reply  from 
Mr.  Parry.    I  would  like  those  to  go  into  the  record  before  we  adjourn. 

Senator  Johnston.  Tliey  shall  become  a  part  of  the  record. 

(The  letters  referred  to  were  marked  "Exhibit  Nos.  442  and  443" 
and  are  as  follows :) 

Exhibit  No.  442 

At  present :  Madison 
But  please  answer  care  of  The  Interna- 
tional   House    1414   E.    59th    Street, 
Chicago,  Illinois 

August  31,  1936. 
Dear  Bill   (W.  T.  Parry)  :  "Thus  far  I  have  not  reported  to  you  anything 
concerning  the  matter  of  the  Association  of  Marxian  Studies,  mainly  because  the 
entire  matter  in  this  district  has  been  only  in  the  formative  stage  both  with  re- 


SCOPE    OF    SOVIET   ACTIVITY    IN    THE    UNITED    STATES      3705 

spect  to  its  theory  and  practice.  It  still  is.  For  a  definite  reason,  however,  I 
feel  it  necessary  to  report  immediately  the  major  problems  which  have  arisen 
here  in  connection  with  the  matter  of  organizing  the  Association. 

First,  I  shall  try  to  formulate  my  understanding  of  the  nature  of  the  educa- 
tional activities  centered  around  the  magazine.  The  publication  of  the  magazine 
itself,  without  the  Association  or  study  groups  around  it,  has  its  educational  signi- 
ficance. The  prospectus  is  sufficiently  clear  in  this  regard.  It  is  as  regards 
the  aspect  in  the  use  of  the  magazine  as  an  active  propaganda  weapon  that  I 
should  like  to  develop  further. 

We  have  already  various  forms  of  organization  for  the  educational  purposes, 
e.  g.,  the  Worker's  School.  The  existing  forms  are  adapted  mainly  for  the  mem- 
bers of  the  working  class  and  the  lower  middle  class  or  for  the  members  of  the 
party  and  YCL.  For  the  fairly  large  group  of  professionals  and  the  majority 
of  the  middle  class,  however,  we  either  have  not  developed  an  effective  organiza- 
tion or  have  tried  to  develop  one  without  success.  It  seems  to  me  that  the  main 
cause  for  this  failure  lies  in  the  fact  that  the  group  in  question  generally  abhor? 
organization  and  that  we  did  not  accommodate  our  policy  to  that  characteristic. 
Tied  up  with  their  abhorrence  to  organization  is  the  fact  that  most  of  them  have 
very  specific  interest,  especially  in  the  case  of  professional  groups.  Engineers  are 
first  of  all  interested  in  engineering.  Social  caseworkers  are  interested  more  in 
psychiatry  than  in  dialectic  materialism  in  general.  Now,  to  meet  this  special 
circumstance,  the  fiexible  form  of  study  groups,  in  my  opinion,  is  a  most  appro- 
priate answer.  These  study  groups  shall  originate,  needless  to  say,  through 
our  initiative,  along  the  most  natural  and  easy  tie  of  association.  For  instance, 
the  Korb's  group  in  Cambridge  arose  among  those  who  were  dissatisfied  in  the 
Marx  seminale.  Lunning's  group  arose  among  the  members  of  the  Law  School 
A  group  may  originate  thru  the  fact  of  professional  homogeneity,  like  in  the 
case  of  social  caseworkers.  A  group  may  originate  thru  the  preexisting  social 
ties.  A  study  group  on  Plato  may  turn  into  a  study  group  on  Marx,  as  has  been 
done  this  summer  in  Madison.  In  short,  study  groups  will  avoid  the  formal 
aspect  of  organization  as  much  as  possible  and  make  use  of  the  special  interests 
which  professional  groups  possess.  The  Association  of  Marxian  Studies  can  come 
only  after  this.  It  will  turn  out  to  be  harmful  or  ineffective  if  we  organize  the 
Association  too  prematurely  in  any  particular  locality.  In  either  case,  the  maga- 
zine serves  as  a  weapon  for  promoting,  as  well  as  in  conducting  and  developing 
such  study  groups. 

No  less  Important  than  the  foregoing  point,  however,  is  the  necessity  of  leading 
ordinary  members  of  these  study  groups  into  a  more  mature  form  of  organization 
or  of  activities.  To  be  a  member  of  a  study  group  may  be  a  step  toward  enrolling 
the  Worker's  School ;  it  may  be  a  step  toward  joining  the  American  League 
against  War  and  Fascism ;  it  may  be  a  step  toward  becoming  a  member  of 
YCL  or  of  the  party.  It  is  absolutely  necessary  to  keep  a  study  group  from  be- 
coming a  self -perpetuating,  stagnant  cloister  for  the  few. 

As  to  the  relation  between  the  educational  activities  centered  around  the  maga- 
zine and  those  of  the  Worker's  Schools,  I  don't  think  there  is  any  conflict  or  dupli- 
cation. The  former  apply  to  those  groups  which  usually  cannot  be  reached 
by  the  Worker's  School  on  account  of  their  abhorrence  to  organization  or  of 
their  too  specific  an  interest. 

Now,  as  to  what  has  been  done  in  Madison  and  Chicago.  In  Madison,  the 
practical  step  has  been  already  taken,  although  the  major  portion  of  it  will  not 
be  effected  until  the  Univereity  opens  in  September.  At  present,  there  are  three 
study  groups  going.  Two  among  members  of  the  Farmer  Labor  Progressive 
Federation,  one  using  Corey's  The  Decline  of  American  Capitalism  and  the  other 
Engels'  Anti-DiiJiring.  The  first  group  consists  mainly  of  clerical  workers. 
The  third  group  is  among  students  of  the  University;  it  has  been  carried  on 
during  the  summer  session  in  the  form  similar  to  that  of  the  group  on  dialectic 
materialism  in  Cambridge.  The  teacher's  unit  appointed  a  special  committee 
headed  by  the  agent  for  the  magazine  to  outline  concrete  avenues  of  approach 
in  the  educational  activities  centered  around  the  magazine.  The  report  has  been 
submitted  and  the  discussion  on  it  is  going  on.  In  Chicago,  the  practical  step 
has  not  yet  been  taken.  There  the  question  of  cooperation  with  the  Worker's 
School  has  to  be  settled.  In  fact,  a  member  of  its  staff,  I  am  informed,  has  ex- 
pressed in  his  casual  talk  a  sense  of  alarm  at  the  possibility  of  duplication.  I 
think  that  such  an  alarm  is  largely  based  upon  the  misunderstanding  of  the 
nature  of  study  groups  which  the  Association  is  to  organize.  Miss  Constance 
Kyle,  who  probably  will  act  as  the  main  agent  for  the  magazine  in  the  Chicago 
district,  tells  me  that  there  are  many  possibilities  of  study  groups  among  those 


3706       SCOPE    OF    SOVIET    ACTIVITY   IN    THE    UNITED    STATES 

people  whom  the  School  will  not  be  able  to  reach  effectively.  The  Association 
will  not  go  beyond  filling  such  a  gap.  On  this  matter,  I  shall  try  to  discuss  with 
the  staff  of  the  School  when  I  go  to  Chicago  iu  a  few  days,  and  shall  report  to 
you  on  the  result.  But,  meanwhile,  I  think  it  will  help  a  great  deal  toward 
clarifying  the  matter  here  if  you  let  me  know  as  soon  as  possil)le  your  reaction 
to  my  report  above.  In  the  matter  of  the  Association,  as  well  as  in  that  of  the 
magazine,  I  have  constantly  asked  for  suggestions  of  K.  H.  Niebyl. 

In  order  to  facilitate  the  task  of  the  agent  in  Chicago  in  coordinating  the 
campaign  in  the  adjoining  districts,  I  should  like  you  to  send  us  immcdiaiely 
the  list  of  names  and  addresses  of  those  persons  in  the  Middle  Vfest  district 
whom  you  have  already  contacted,  especially  persons  connected  with  universities. 

All  the  subscribers  aroimd  here  are  eagerly  looking  forward  to  the  appear- 
ance of  the  magazine.    I  hope  that  the  first  issue  will  be  published  in  October 
as  has  been  promised,  and  not  in  November  or  December  ! 
Sincerely, 

(TSUKU). 

Exhibit  No.  443 
Science  and  Society:  A  Marxian  Quabteklt 

Q^y  Holyoke  Street,  Cambridge,  Massachusetts 

Sept.  6,  1936. 

Dear  Tstjru  :  Please  do  not  think  from  the  fact  that  we  have  been  somewhat 
negligent  about  answering  your  letters  that  we  do  not  appreciate  them,  and 
your  numerous  activities  for  the  magazine,  On  the  contrary,  we  find  them  to  be 
very  valuable.  However,  Kenneth  and  I  have  been  out  of  town  now  and  then ; 
and,  with  most  everyone  away,  I  have  not  been  able  to  get  anyone  to  do  typing, 
etc.,  for  me  most  of  the  time.  Also,  we  have  a  last-minute  rush  at  present,  since 
the  magazine  is  going  to  the  printer  this  week.  I  can  assure  you,  therefore,  by 
the  way,  that  the  first  issue  will  actually  appear  in  October — in  fact,  about  the 
first  of  October. 

On  the  matter  of  the  study  groups  discussed  in  your  last  letter  especially : 

1  do  not  see  how  there  can  be  any  doubt  that  such  study  groups  are  a  very  desir- 
able thing.  Unquestionably  they  can  bring  in  many  people  who  would  not  go 
to  the  Workers  School.  They  do  not  conflict  with  the  Workers  School.  It  is  the 
duty  of  the  more  advanced  members  of  the  groups  to  draw  the  others  closer  to 
the  revolutionary  movement  by  involving  them  in  activities,  as  you  suggest.  If 
anyone  raises  any  objection  to  these  study  groups,  see  to  it  that  his  position  is 
corrected,  if  necessary  appealing  to  the  district  leadership. 

The  organization  of  these  study  groups,  I  think,  should  be  flexible,  following 
natural  lines  as  you  indicate,  and  the  Association  should  not  be  too^  formal  at 
first.  Such  study  groups  and  Science  d  Society  will  mutually  help  one  another's 
development. 

We  have  not  very  many  people  iu  the  Middle  West  who  have  agreed  to  work 
for  the  magazine  besides  tho.se  you  and  Niebyl  know  about.  Miss  Constance 
Kyle  can  count  on  help  from  Joseph  Dooh  (math.),  also  of  Univ.  of  Illinois. 
Prof.  J.  F.  Brown,  Univ.  of  Kansas,  Lawrence,  Kan.  (psych.)  will  help.    These 

2  we  know  to  be  reliable  people.  Brown  has  given  us  names  of  psychologists,  to 
whom  we  have  sent  prospectuses.  (In  the  Midwest,  he  listed  the  following  as 
"probably  very  sympathetic":  I.  Krechevsky,  U.  of  Chicago;  N.  R.  F.  Maier, 
Univ.  of  Michigan ;  Ross  Stagner,  Univ.  of  Akron,  Akron,  O. ) 

Frederick  L.  Ryan,  Assoc.  Prof,  of  Economics,  Univ.  of  Oklahoma  (Address : 
Faculty  Exchange,  Norman,  Okla.),  wrote  us  that  he  will  help,  and  will  try  to 
start  a  gi'oup  to  support  magazine. 

Mins  may  have  some  other  names.  But  I  suggest  one  of  you  write  to  him, 
stating  a  little  more  exactly  what  sort  of  information  you  need  (e.  g.,  do  you 
want  lists  of  subscribers?),  and  what  territory  is  included. 

With  regard  to  Great  Britain,  J.  D.  Bernal  of  U.  of  Cambridge  (68  Walnut 
Tree  Ave.,  Cambridge,  Engl.)  has  agreed  to  be  our  agent.  H.  Levy  of  Univ.  of 
London  is  also  acting  as  a  Foreign  Editor.  We  have  written  to  (or  will  write 
to)  about  a  dozen  outstanding  Marxists.  However,  we  can  always  use  more 
contacts.  But  I  suggest  that  any  extensive  campaign  for  subs,  or  any  suggestions 
for  articles,  be  first  discussed  with  us,  or  directly  with  Bernal  (preferably  the 
former  where  possible) . 


SCOPE    OF    SOVIET   ACTIVITY    IN    THE    UNITED    STATES       3707 

Will  you  please  make  it  clear  to  the  people  you  communicate  with  who  are 
serving  as  agents  for  the  magazine  that  we  prefer  to  have  business  matters  (in- 
cluding subs.)  sent  directly  to  Mins,  at  10  Fifth  Ave.,  N.  Y.  C,  and  editorial 
matters  left  to  this  office.  (But  they  may  send  us  a  single  letter  if  they  have  to 
deal  with  both  kinds.)  (Book  reviews  may  be  handled  thru  either  office.) 
Thanks  for  all  your  assistance.  I  shall  be  seeing  you  soon. 
Yours, 

/s/    Bill  Pabey  (  William  T.  ) . 

Mr.  Glover.  Is  there  any  possibility,  Mr.  Chairman,  since  this  wit- 
ness is  from  out  of  town,  that  we  could  continue  this  afternoon  ? 

Senator  Johnston.  It  will  be  impossible.  Here  is  the  trouble,  we 
have  a  rule  that  we  are  not  supposed  to  meet  while  the  Senate  is  in 
session.     I  do  not  believe  so.     What  do  you  think  ? 

Senator  Jenner.  I  would  not  think  so. 

Senator  Johnston.  As  for  me,  I  just  do  not  think  it  would  be 
possible. 

Mr.  TsuRU.  If  you  are  going  to  recess,  may  I  just  say  a  word  ? 

Senator  Johnston.  Yes,  sir,  but  try  to  be  brief,  because  we  do  have 
to  leave  here. 

Mr.  TsuRU.  Yes. 

I  have  agreed,  as  I  wrote  to  Senator  Eastland  by  personal  letter, 
that  I  am  willing  to  testify,  cooperate  with  the  committee  to  the  best 
of  my  ability.  And  I  have  tried  to  do  so  this  morning,  and  I  shall 
continue  to  do  so  in  the  future.  However,  I  am  here  on  the  American- 
Japan  intellectual  interchange  program,  which  I  consider  to  be  very 
important. 

And — I  was  interrupted  earlier — on  the  Voice  of  America  pro- 
gram, I  was  going  to  say  my  impressions  of  America,  in  which  I  was 
going  to  include  my  sense  of  surprise  about  the  vigor  of  the  economic 
development,  the  degree  of  prosperity  you  have.  In  general,  I  was 
going  to  do  my  best  to  cement  and  promote  the  interests  of  the  cultural 
interchange  between  our  two  countries. 

Now,  Iconsider  my  job  as  such,  a  cultural  interchange  man,  quite 
important.  So,  though  I  shall  be  at  your  service  any  time  you  would 
like  me  to  come,  I  would  appreciate  very  much  if  you  could  also  let 
me  carry  out  some  of  the  commitments  I  have  under  this  program. 

Senator  Johnson.  We  will  try  our  best  to  finish  tomorrow. 

Mr.  Morris.  Particularly,  Mr.  Tsuru,  if  you  will  look  at  these  let- 
ters, so  we  can  go  through  them  all  at  great  length. 

Senator  Johnston.  The  committee  stands  adjourned  until  10 :  30 
tomorrow  morning. 

(Whereupon,  at  12 :  30  p.  m.,  the  committee  recessed  to  reconvene  at 
10 :  30  a.  m.,  Wednesday,  March  27, 195Y.) 


SCOPE  OF  SOVIET  ACTIVITY  IN  THE  UNITED  STATES 


WEDNESDAY,   MARCH  27,    1957 

United  States  Senate, 
subcommtttee  to  investigate  the 
Administration  of  the  Internal  Security  Act 

AND  Other  Internal  Security  Laws, 
OF  THE  Committee  on  the  Judiciary, 

Washington^  D.  G. 
The  subcommittee  met,  pursuant  to  call,  at  10 :  45  a.  m.,  in  room  424, 
Senate  Office  Building,  Senator  Jenner,  presiding. 

Also  present :  Eobert  Morris,  chief  counsel ;  William  A.  Eusher, 
associate  counsel ;  J.  G.  Sourwine,  associate  counsel ;  Benjamin  Mandel, 
director  of  research. 

Senator  Jenner.  The  committee  will  come  to  order. 
Proceed  with  the  testimony  of  the  witness.    The  witness  was  sworn 
yesterday  so  this  is  a  continuation. 

Mr.  Morris.  Mr.  Chairman,  Mr.  Tsuru  has  requested  an  opportunity 
to  read  a  statement  here. 

Senator  Jenner.  You  may  proceed. 

]\Ir.  Tsuru.  IMr.  Chairman,  at  yesterday's  hearings  the  questions 
asked  me  ranged  over  a  time  span  of  more  than  25  years,  often  with- 
out regard  to  chronology.  To  put  matters  in  perspective,  I  would 
like  to  make  this  statement  at  the  beginning  of  today's  hearing. 

1.  I  am  a  Japanese  citizen,  and  a  professor  of  economics  at 
Hitotsubashi  University  in  Tokyo.  I  took  my  undergraduate  and 
graduate  training  in  the  United  States,  receiving  the  following  degrees 
from  Harvard  University  in  the  years  indicated  (bachelor  of  arts, 
1935;  master  of  arts,  1936;  doctor  of  philosophy,  1940).  In  1941, 
when  war  broke  out,  I  was  a  research  assistant  in  the  economics 
department  at  Harvard.  My  wife  and  I  were  not  interned  but  were 
subsequently  repatriated  on  the  Gripshohn  in  June,  1942. 

2.  I  am  ciu'rently  on  leave  of  absence  from  Hitotsubashi  University 
in  order  to  come  to  this  country  under  the  American-Japanese  intel- 
lectual interchange  program,  a  privately  sponsored  program,  to  do 
economic  research  at  Harvard,  give  some  guest  lectures,  and  generally 
reacquaint  myself  with  a  country  which  I  have  not  seen  for  15  years. 

Senator  Jenner.  You  will  furnish  this  committee  the  method  by 
which  you  came  here,  who  is  financing  it,  and  so  forth. 
Mr.  Tsuru.  I  will  do  so,  sir.^    I  shall  continue  reading. 

3.  In  the  postwar  years  in  Japan  I  served  as  an  economist  in  SCAP 
(1946-47). 


1  A  statement  regarding  the  Intellectual  Interchange  program,  which  Mr.  Tsuru  said  was 
prepared  by  Prof.  Hugh  Borton,  chairman  of  the  American  committee,  is  printed  as 
appendix  I  of  this  volume. 

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3710       SCOPE    OF    SOVIET    ACTIVITY   IN    THE    UNITED    STATES 

Senator  Jenner.  That  was  under  General  MacArthur  ? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  Yes.  When  a  coalition  Cabinet  was  formed  in  1947 
under  Premier  Katayama,  I  was  asked  to  become  Vice  Minister  of 
Economic  Stabilization.  In  that  capacity  I  helped  to  initiate  measures 
to  curb  inflation  in  Japan,  measures  which,  incidentally,  were  vigor- 
ously opposed  by  Japanese  Communists. 

4.  I  am  not  "anti- American"  unless  that  term  can  be  extended  to  in- 
clude one  who,  as  a  Japanese  citizen,  on  occasion  publicly  differs  with 
specific  United  States  policies,  such  as  the  test  explosion  of  nuclear 
bombs  in  the  Pacific,  severe  restrictions  on  trade  between  Japan  and 
mainland  China,  and  emphasis  on  Japanese  rearmament. 

Senator  Jenner.  May  I  interrupt  right  there  ? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  Yes,  sir. 

Senator  Jenner.  You  have  made  public  statements,  I  assume,  in  re- 
gard to  the  explosion  of  nuclear  tests  by  the  United  States  Govern- 
ment. 

Mr.  TsuRTj.  I  have  written  articles  for  publication  on  the  opinion 
of  mine  regarding  this  question,  not  only  the  tests  by  the  United  States 
Government,  but  by  all  the  governments. 

Senator  Jexner.  In  other  words,  it  is  public  knowledge  you  have 
written  on  it. 

Mr.  TsuRU.  Yes.     May  I  continue. 

Senator  Jenner.  Sure. 

Mr.  Tsuru.  Since  my  return  to  the  United  States  I  have  become 
aware,  through  firsthand  observation,  of  the  vitality  and  the  poten- 
tiality for  growth  of  the  American  economy  and  have  written,  for  ex- 
f.mple,  an  article  for  ASAHI,  Japan's  leading  newspaper,  reporting, 
from  an  economist's  viewpoint,  the  extremely  high  standard  of  living 
in  the  United  States,  and  the  increasing  emphasis  of  American  con- 
sumers on  quality,  rather  than  quantity.  I  am  extremely  grateful  for 
the  opportunity  provided  me  by  the  exchange  program  to  reacquaint 
myself  with  the  United  States,  and  I  am  sure  I  shall  have  occasions 
to  prove  this  gratitude  through  my  lectures  and  writings  while  in  this 
country  and  after  I  return  to  Japan  this  fall. 

5.  As  I  have  testified,  I  am  not  and  never  have  been  a  member  of 
the  Communist  Party.  Attention  has  been  called  to  a  handful  of  let- 
ters written  by,  and  to,  me  in  1936-37,  some  20  years  ago  when  I  was  a 
student  at  Harvard.  These  letters  were  apparently  among  the  pos- 
sessions which  I  left  behind  in  my  apartment  in  Cambridge  when  I 
was  repatriated  on  the  Grifsholm.  During  that  period  of  time,  as 
these  letters  indicate,  I  was  acquainted  with  some  individuals  who 
were  Communists  or  Communist-sympathizers,  and,  for  a  brief  while 
I  showed  interest  in  the  publication,  Science  and  Society  (some  of 
whose  editors  were  Communists),  and  in  groups  in  Cambridge  which 
discussed,  among  other  things,  Marxist  doctrine. 

Looking  back  over  20  years,  I  can  only  explain  such  interests  dur- 
ing my  student  days  in  terms  of  youthful  indiscretion  of  which  I  am 
ashamed. 

I  soon  lost  interest  in  Science  and  Society  and  saw  less  and  less  of 
those  individuals  in  Cambridge  and  elsewhere  who  had  been  active  in 


SCOPE    OF    SOVIET    ACTIVITY    EST    THE    UNITED    STATES       3711 

it.  As  I  matured,  my  attitudes  changed.  One  of  the  major  factors 
which  influenced  me  in  the  direction  of  my  current  beliefs,  which  I 
would  characterize  as  democratic  socialism,  was  my  realization,  after 
the  bold  economic  measures  taken  by  the  United  States  Government 
to  curb  the  1937-38  recession,  of  the  constructive  j)romises  which  the 
American  system  of  economy  seemed  to  hold  for  the  future. 

Although  I  would  not  in  any  way  condone  my  youthful  indiscre- 
tions during  my  student  days,  I  consider  that  this  experience  enables 
me  to  hold  to  my  present  views  with  greater  strength  and  confidence 
and  to  challenge  Communist  doctrines  more  effectively. 

]\Ir.  Morris.  Mr.  Chairman,  that  this  hearing  may  be  kept  in  per- 
S]5ective,  I  would  like  to  bring  into  the  record  the  evidence  which  Mr. 
Tsuru  has  been  identifying,  which  indicates  a  very  widespread  and 
rather  formidable  infiltration  in  Americans,  which  is  apparently  con- 
tinuing down  to  date. 

Mr.  Mandel  has  compiled  a  list  of  professors  and  their  universities 
which  indicates  the  spread  with  which  Science  and  Society,  the  maga- 
zine. Science  and  Society,  has  been  operating  on  our  American 
campuses. 

Also,  we  are  not  dealing  here,  Senator — these  papers  don't  reveal 
youthful  indiscretion  or  any  such  thing.  The  witness,  in  his  own 
statement  yesterday,  was  talking  of  the  necessity  of  leading  ordinary 
members  of  study  groups  into  a  more  mature  form  of  organization 
or  activities.  He  went  on  say  that  to  be  a  member  of  a  study  group 
may  be  a  step  toward  enrolling  in  the  workers'  schools ;  maybe  a  step 
toward  joining  the  American  League  Against  War.  and  Fascism.  It 
may  also  be  a  step,  he  said,  toward  becoming  a  member  of  the  Young 
Communist  League  or  of  the  party.  "It  is  absolutely  necessary,"  said 
Mr.  Tsuru,  "to  keep  a  study  group  from  becoming  a  self-perpetuating 
stagnant  cloister  for  the  few." 

I  think,  at  the  outset  of  the  hearing  today.  Senator,  ]\Ir.  Mandel 
should  offer,  for  the  record,  a  list  of  individuals  with  their  colleges 
listed,  who  have  been  contributing  editors — or  let  him  furnish  the 
description — to  the  publication  Science  and  Society. 

Mr.  TsTJEu.  JNIay  I  interrupt  a  second  ? 

Senator  Jenner,  Yes. 

Mr.  Tsuru.  I  think  Mr.  Morris  started  out  by  saying,  "Mr.  Tsuru 
said  yesterday" — now  the  letter  was  read  yesterday  in  which  the  quota- 
tion was  contained.    The  letter  which  I  wrote  in  1936. 

Mr.  Morris.  Yes ;  you  acknowledged  you  had  stated  in  1936 

Mr.  Tsuru.  Yes 

Senator  jE>rNER.  All  right ;  proceed,  Mr.  Mandel. 

Mr.  Mandel.  The  attached  list  of  contributors  to  Science  and  So- 
ciety shows  the  spread  of  the  magazine  among  American  colleges  and 
universities.  The  tabulation  is  necessarily  incomplete  because  we  do 
not  have  all  copies  of  the  magazine  available  and  because,  in  some  in- 
stances, no  college  or  university  connection  is  given.  It  must  be  kept 
in  mind  that  contributors  listed  may  or  may  not  be  presently  con- 
nected with  the  magazine  and  that  they  may  or  may  not  be  presently 
connected  with  the  college  or  university  listed.  Persons  who  con- 
tributed on  more  than  one  occasion  are  not  repeated  in  the  list. 


3712       SCOPE    OF    SOVIET    ACTIVITY   IN    THE    UNITED    STATES 

(The  doc^^ment  referred  to  was  marked  "Exhibit  No.  444"  and  reads 

as  follows:) 

Exhibit  No.  444 

Writers  for  Science  and  Society 


Issue 


Winter  1939- 


Spring  1939- 


Summer  1939. 


FaU  1939. 


Wiater  1940. 


Sprins  1940- 
Do 


Summer  1940. 


Winterl942.. 
Spring  1942-.- 
Summer  1942, 

rani942 

Spring  1943-.- 


Summer  1943- 
Winter  1944.. 


J.  W.  Alexander 


Francis  Birch 

Tiieodore  B.  Brameld 

Dorothy  Brewster 

Ralph  J.  Bunche 

Addison  T.  Cutler 

E.  Franklin  Frazier 

Louis  Harap 

Granville  Hicks 

Eugene  C.  Holmes 

Leo  Huberman 

Oliver  Larkin 

Herbert  M.  Morals 

Broadus  M  itchell 

Brooks  Otis 

Herbert. I.  Phillips. 

Samuel  Sillen 

Harry  C.  Steinmetz 

Paul  M.  Sweezy 

Louis  Weisner 

Edwin  Berry  Burgum... 
Vladimir  D.  Kazakevich. 

V.J.  McGill 

Margaret  Schlauch 

Bernhard  J.  Stern.- 

D.J.  Struik- 


Spring  1944-.- 
Summer  1944. 


Samuel  Yellen 

Lester  Taraopol 

Charles  Obermeyer 

Irving  Mark 

Howard  Selsam 

Lewis  S.  Feuer 

C  harles  Hughes. 

Bailey  W.  Diffie 

Kingsley  Davis 

Leopold  Infeld 

Harry  Slochower 

KarlH.  Niebyl 

H.  V.  Cobb 

Francis  Ballaine 

M.  F.  Ashley  Montagu. 

Mitchell  Franklin 

George  Herzog 

Marion  Hathway 

Alice  D.  Snyder 

.A.lan  R.  Sweezy 

Robert  A.  Brady 

Leslie  C.  Dunn 

Vernon  Venable 

Carl  O.  Dunbar 

Norman  Levinson 


Frank  E.  Hartunj 

Lillian  Herlands  Hornstein. 
S .  Stanfleld  Sargent 


University  or  college  indicated 


Robert  K.  Merton 

Walter  B.  Cannon 

Curtis  P.  Nettels. 

Horace  B.  Davis 

Abraham  Edel ^ 

Paul  BirdsaU 

Elton  P.  Guthrie 

William  O.  Brown 

Alfred  Lowe 

Leslie  Reade 

Harold  Chapman  Brown 

Henry  David 

Benjamin  Paskofl 

Louis  C.  Hunter 

A.  D.  Winspear 

Lyman  R.  Bradley 

Alexander  Sandow 

Katharine  De  Pre  Lumpkin.. 
Joseph  Kresh 


Institute  for   Advanced    Studies, 


Princeton. 

Harvard. 

Adelphia. 

Columbia. 

Howard. 

Fisk. 

Howard. 

Harvard. 
Do. 

Howard. 

Columbia. 

Smith. 

Brooklyn. 

Johns  Hopkins. 

Hobard. 

Washington  (State). 

New  York. 

San  Diego  State. 

Harvard. 

Hunter. 

New  York. 

Columbia. 

Hunter. 

New  York. 

Columbia. 

Massachusetts  Institute  of  Tech- 
nology. 

Harvard. 
Do. 

Wisconsin. 

Simmons. 

City  College  of  Xew  York. 

Williams. 

Washington  (State). 

Howard. 

New  York. 

Stanford. 

Queens. 

City  College  of  New  York. 

American. 

Wisconsin. 

Brooklyn. 

New  York. 

Smith. 

Brooklyn  and  City  College  of  New 

York. 
Indiana. 
Kentucky. 
Columbia. 
Biooklyn. 

Do. 
City  College  of  New  York. 
Hunter. 

City  College  of  New  York 
Pennsylvania  State. 
Toronto. 
Brooklyn. 
Carleton. 

Do. 
Adelphi 

Hahnemann  Medical. 
Tulane. 
Columbia. 
Pittsburgh. 
Vassar. 
Williams. 
California. 
Columbia. 
Vassar. 
Yale. 

Massachusetts  Institute  of  Tech- 
nology. 
Wayne. 
New  York. 
Columbia. 


SCOPE    OF    SOVIET   ACTIVITY    IN    THE    UNITED    STATES      3713 
Writers  for  Science  and  Society — Continued 


Issue 


Fall  1944 

Spring  1945 

Summer  1945. . 

Fall  1945 

Spring  1947 

Summer  1947. . 

Spring  1948 

FaU1948 _. 

Winter  1948-49 
Spring  1949 

Summer  1949.. 

Falll949 

Spring  1950 

Summer  1950- . 

Fall  1950 

Winter  1950-51 

Spring  1951 

Fall  1951 

Winter  1951-52 
Spring  1952 

Winter  1953.., 

Fall  1953 

TMnter  1954... 
"Winter  1955... 


Name 


T.  Addis 

Frederic  Ewen 

Barrows  Dunliam 

Selden  C.  Menefee 

Charles  E.  Trinkaus,  Jr 

Ernst  Riess 

Joseph  W.  Cohen 

John  A.  Wolfard 

Hans  Gottschalk 

Oliver  O.  Cox 

Norman  Cazden 

William  Mandel 

Meyer  Reinhold 

Morris  Swadesh 

Perez  Zagorin 

Surendra  J.  Patel 

Shou  Shan  Pu 

Ralph  H.  Gundlach 

Wallace  W.  Douglas 

Kemieth  May 

Bernard  F.  Reiss 

W.  T.  Pany 

Kirtley  F.  Mather 

Ray  H.  Dotterer 

Alvin  W.  Gouldner 

Henry  Aiken 

E.  Burke  Inlow 

Russell  B.  Nye 

G.  M.  Gilbert 

Lullian  Gilkes 

G.  W.  Sherman 

David  V.  Erdman 

Otto  Nathan 

Robert  B.  MacLeod 

Frank  S.  Freeman 

Alfred  Young 

Vera  Shlakman 

Eda  Lou  Walton 

Keimeth  Neill  Cameron 

Ray  Ginger 

Henry  Pratt  Fairchild 

Arthur  K.  Davis 

Ernest  F.  Patterson 

Norman  Cazden 

Ray  Ginger 

Philip  'Morrison 

V'llliam  Appleman  Williams 

Vernard  Mandel 

L.  R.  Lind 


University  or  college  indicated 


Stanford,  School  of  Medicine. 
Brooklyn. 
Temple. 
National. 
Sarah  Lawrence. 
Hunter. 
Colorado. 
Montana  State. 
Iowa. 
Tuskegee. 
Harvard. 
Stanford. 
Brooklyn. 

City  College  of  New  York. 
Amherst. 
Pennsylvania. 
Carleton. 

Washington  (State). 
Northwestern. 
Carleton. 
Brooklyn. 
Buffalo. 
Harvard. 

Pemisylvania  State. 
Buffalo. 
Harvard. 
Princeton. 
Michigan  State. 
Princeton. 
New  York. 
Montana  State. 
Minnesota. 
New  York. 
Cornell. 
Do. 
Wesleyan. 
Queens. 
New  York. 
Indiana. 

Western  Reserve. 
New  York. 
Union. 
Alabama. 
Illinois. 
Harvard. 
Cornell. 
Oregon. 
Perm. 
Kansas. 


Mr.  Morris.  Now,  Senator,  I  might  point  out  that  in  this  list  are 
people  who  have  been  identified  as  members  of  the  Communist  Party, 
many  of  whom,  when  asked  under  oath  whether  the  specific  evidence 
is  accurate  or  inaccurate  have  claimed  privilege  under  the  fifth  amend- 
ment. I  might  point  out,  Senator,  that  that  process  of  congressional 
committees  learning  the  identity  of  these  men  is  something  that  has 
taken  years  to  ascertain. 

In  a  letter  which  has  already  been  submitted  to  Mr.  Tsuru  on 
February  22, 1937 

Senator  Jenner.  Do  you  want  to  offer  this  list  for  the  record  ? 

Mr.  Morris.  Mr.  Mandel  has  offered  it. 

Senator  Jenner.  It  may  go  into  the  record  and  become  an  official 
part  of  the  record. 

Mr.  Morris.  Science  and  Society  is  still  published? 

Mr.  Mandel.  Yes.  I  have  here  three  issues  of  1956  and  if  I  may 
mention  some  names  which  appear  in  these  issues 

Mr.  Morris.  Just  offer  them  for  the  record. 


3714       SCOPE    OF    SOVIET   ACTIVITY   IN    THE    UNITED    STATES 

Senator  Jenner.  They  will  go  in  to  the  record  by  reference  and  be- 
come an  official  part  of  this  committee's  record. 

(The  issues  above  referred  to  were  numbered  "Exhibit  No.  445, 
445-A  and  445-B  may  be  found  in  the  subcommittee  files.) 

Mr.  Morris.  I  would  like  to  read  from  your  [Tsuru's]  letter  of 
February  22,  1937,  page  3. 

Connie — 

Wlio  was  Connie  ? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  This  is  Miss — she  was  then  Miss — I  don't  know  what 
happened  to  her  subsequently,  Miss  Constance  Kyle. 

Mr.  Morris.  And  she  was  a  professor  of  psychiatry  at  the  Univer- 
sity of  Illinois,  was  she  not  ? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  University  of  Illinois  or  Chicago. 

Mr.  Morris.  On  that  memorandum  we  come  to  later 

Mr.  TsuRU.  Yes,  I  believe  it  says 

Mr.  Morris.  It  says  department  of  science  at  University  of  Illinois. 

Mr.  TsuRu.  Yes,  Mr.  Morris. 

Mr.  Morris.  May  I  continue  reading  ? 

Senator  Jenner.  Proceed. 

Mr.  Morris  (reading)  : 

Connie  had  expressed  her  anxiety,  when  she  received  a  letter  of  acknowledg- 
ment from  Miss  Olson  (a  secretary  to  Mins)  — 

Now  Mins  is  Henry  Felix  Mins,  is  he  not  ? 

Mr.  TsuRu.  Mr.  H.  F.  Mins,  I  don't  know  his  second  name. 

Mr.  Morris.  There  is  a  Mr.  H.  F.  Mins  associated  with  the  maga- 
zine who  has  been  identified  in  our  record  as  a  Communist  and  was 
called  as  witness  in  late  1952  and  rather  than  answer,  claimed  his 
privilege  under  the  fifth  amendment.  He  was  then  a  New  York 
schoolteacher.  I  think  the  board  of  education  subsequently  took 
action  and  brought  about  his  removal  if  he  didn't  resign. 

And  who  was  Miss  Olson  ? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  Miss  Olson,  I  do  not  know. 

Mr.  Morris  (continuing)  : 

as  to  the  care  with  which  the  fraction  and  the  official  body  are  being  distin- 
guished. Not  only  your  letter  made  it  clear  that  the  memorandum  is  addressed 
to  the  fraction,  but  I  also  repeated  it  verbally  to  Parry.  Parry  explained  to  me, 
however,  practically  all  of  the  members  of  the  editorial  board  either  are  or  once 
were  members  of  the  party,  and  that  the  fraction  and  the  editorial  board  are 
almost  identical. 

This  fact  itself  reveals  a  shortcoming  in  my  mind.  Most  concretely,  the  short- 
coming came  into  light  at  the  time  our  memorandum  was  brought  down  to  New 
York.  At  that  time  most  editors  were  terrifically  busy  in  other  duties  of  theirs 
(in  connection  with  the  fight  against  Trotskyists)  and,  according  to  Parry,  were 
not  in  the  position  to  take  up  our  memorandum  for  discussion  immediately.  My 
concrete  suggestion  is :  the  S.  and  S.  should  be  able  to  enlist  progressive  intel- 
lectuals (who  are  not  party  members)  who  could  make  their  activities  in  the  S. 
and  S.  as  their  primary  task.  (The  success  of  Left  Book  Club  in  England  seems 
to  me  to  be  partially  due  to  this  factor.)  I  do  not  mean  to  say  that  our  memor- 
andum would  have  received  a  faster  response  had  there  been  such  persons  active 
for  the  magazine ;  but  I  mean  to  say  that  the  magazine  and  all  other  words  con- 
nected with  it  (e.  g.  study  groups)  should  not  be  solely  in  the  hands  of  party 
members  who  are  very  often  called  to  their  duties  even  when  they  are  needed 
in  the  magazine. 

(The  letter  of  February  22,  1937,  was  marked  "Exhibit  No.  446" 
and  reads  as  follows :) 


SCOPE    OF    SOVIET   ACTIVITY   IN   THE    UNITED    STATES      3715 

Exhibit  No.  446 

36  Claveelt  Hall,  Cambridge,  Mass., 

February  22, 1937. 

Deab  Karl-Heinkich  (Niebyl)  :  Connie  has  written  me  from  Washington, 
telling  me  that  Gertrude  had  returned  to  Chicago  though  not  with  complete 
recovery.  At  least,  I  am  glad  that  her  sickness  was  not  very  serious,  but  I  hope 
she  will  take  a  good  care  of  herself  not  to  invite  a  relapse.  You  have  been  well 
as  usual? 

I  remember  that  I  promised  you  in  my  long  letter  of  about  three  weeks  ago 
to  let  you  know  about  the  situation  in  Cambridge  more  in  detail  so  far  as  the 
matter  of  S»&S  is  concerned. 

At  the  beginning  of  the  current  schoolyear  (October  1936),  the  situation  was 
as  follows :  questions  directly  concerned  with  the  magazine  (such  as,  subscrip- 
tion, contribution)  were  almost  exclusively  in  the  single  hands  of  W.  T.  Parry 
with  some  assistance  from  L.  Harap,  a  contributing  editor.  Parry  was  doing 
even  such  things  as  contacting  with,  and  carrying  magazines,  to  various  news 
stands.  There  was  in  existence,  at  that  time,  a  very  informal,  loose  organiza- 
tion called  The  Association  of  Marxist  Studies  which  consisted  of  representatives 
(either  approved  or  nonapproved)   from  each  study  group.     Following  study 

groups  were  represented  in  the  Association : 

Attendance 

SGI,  white  collar  workers'  group  socialists  predominating  text — Leontiev's 
Pol.   Ec 10-15 

SG2,  a  group  branched  off  from  SGI  because  the  number  of  SGI  became 
too  large  text — the  same  as  above 5 

SG8,  graduate  students  and  instructors  in  the  Economics  Dept.  text — 
Capital 5-8 

SG4,  graduate  students  and  instructors  in  the  Ec.  Dept.,  some  overlapping 
with  SG3  seminar  "Economics  of  Socialist  Society" 5-8 

SG5,  graduate  students  from  various  depts.  text — Lenin's  works 5-10 

SG6,  graduate  students  from  various  depts.  seminar  "Dialectic  Material- 
ism   5 

JRSl,  John  Reed  Society  classes,  mostly  undergraduates  topic  "Historical 
Materialism" 20-30 

JRS2,  John  Reed  Society  class;  mostly  undergraduates  topic  "Current 

Events" 20-30 

Except  SG2  which  emerged  at  the  beginning  of  this  current  academic  year,  all 
the  above  groups  existed  during  the  last  spring.  As  far  as  I  know,  the  Associa- 
tion was  the  only  place  where  various  problems  connected  with  study  groups  were 
discussed 

After  the  first  issue  of  the  magazine  came  out,  it  was  suggested  that  the  Asso- 
ciation be  transformed  into  Science  and  Society  Club,  especially  because  the  lead- 
ership in  the  Association  then  was  of  stultifying  type.  The  fact  that  the  Associa- 
tion did  practically  nothing  in  the  way  of  cooperating  with  S&S  is  to  be  explained, 
in  my  opinion,  both  in  terms  of  the  shrinking  questism  of  the  Association  leader- 
ship and  in  terms  of  insufficient  realization  on  the  part  of  S&S  of  the  necessity  of 
cooperation  with  the  Association.  Through  the  transformation  of  the  Association 
into  the  SSC,  it  was  deemed  that  new  blood  could  be  injected  into  this  sphere  of 
activity,  fusing  more  intimately  the  Association  and  S&S. 

The  first  meeting  of  SSC  was  called  at  the  beginning  of  December  to  discuss 
the  first  issue  and  S&S  in  general.  Burgum  came  from  New  York  to  represent 
editors.  There  were  about  20  people  present.  But  because  of  the  technical  error, 
the  matter  of  SSC  was  not  broached  until  a  few  minutes  before  the  closing  hour 
of  the  Hall.  Thus  this  meeting  remained  merely  as  a  meeting  called  by  the  editors 
of  S&S  to  discuss  the  magazine.  At  that  time  the  number  of  subscribers  in  the 
state  of  Massachusetts  was  101,  according  to  the  list  submitted  from  New  York. 

During  the  month  of  January,  the  old  members  of  the  Association  met  a  few 
times  and  voted  to  hold  the  second  meeting  of  the  subscribers  and  the  SG 
members  and  their  friends.  At  the  beginning  of  February,  the  situation  was  as 
follows :  As  regards  the  matter  of  S&S,  Parry  was  not  completely  single-handed, 
because  Harap  headed  the  committee  on  "A  Guide  to  Marxian  Studies,"  the 
bibliography  projected.  Following  study  groups  were  in  existence :  SGI ;  SG2 
(now,  taking  up  Lenin's  Teachings  of  Karl  Marx  with  sufficient  amount  of  refer- 
ence readings;  the  number  of  participants  increased  to  10)  ;  SG3;  SG5  and  SG6 
combined  into  one  dwindling  in  number  and  taking  up  the  question  of  Fascism  and 

93215— 57— pt.  57 3 


3716       SCOPE    OF    SOVIET   ACTIVITY    IN    THE    UNITED    STATES 

Social  democracy  ;  both  JRSl  and  JRS2  nominally  existed  but  had  not  yet  started 
their  activities  for  the  semester.  In  other  words,  no  new  groups  and  two  less 
than  before.  But  SGI  and  SG2  not  only  grew  as  time  went  on,  but  also  developed 
politically.     SGI  is  again  ready  to  undergo  "cell  division." 

The  second  general  meeting  to  discuss  S&S  was  held  on  Feb.  12.  (The  list 
of  subscribers  at  that  time  numbered  128  in  the  state  of  Massachusetts,  Cam- 
bridge accounting  for  about  one-half  of  the  number.)  The  discussion  with  the 
participation  of  Struik,  Sweezy  brothers,  and  Professors  Leontief  and  Mason  was 
quite  lively.  There  were  about  30  people  present  (two  undergraduates,  two  or 
three  uou-University  middle  class  intellectuals,  the  rest  was  graduate  students 
and  instructors  of  the  University).  But  again  the  matter  of  SSC  was  not  effec- 
tively brought  up ;  thus  the  Club  was  not  organized.  Those  undergraduates  and 
white-collar  worlvers  who  were  present  and  could  be  taken  as  typical  of  their 
respective  groups  voiced  the  identical  opinion  after  the  meeting  that  both 
the  magazine  and  the  meeting  were  too  "high  brow"  for  them.  The  white-collar 
worker  who  voiced  this  opinion  was  one  of  the  ablest  members  of  SGI.  He 
was  the  only  one  present  out  of  all  the  members  of  SGI  and  SG2. 

In  view  of  the  above  situation,  I  have  made  the  following  practical  con- 
siderations : 

(1)  So  far  as  Cambridge  is  concerned,  what  is  most  important  is  the  draw- 
ing in  of  new  blood.  For  this  purpose,  the  unit  which  has  been  and  still  is 
somewhat  aloof  to  the  question  of  SG  should  reconsider  its  policy.  Whether 
we  shall  form  SSC  or  not  is  not  so  important  as  the  question  of  the  drawing 
in  of  new  blood  into  the  theoretical  front  and  the  question  of  the  thorough- 
going reconsideration  of  the  policy  on  study  groups. 

(2)  As  to  the  S»&S  as  a  whole,  I  should  not  like  to  make  any  additional 
remarks  to  what  we  said  in  our  memorandum  until  we  receive  an  answer  from 
New  York.  But  I  am  beginning  to  feel  more  strongly  than  before  that  present 
editors  do  not  regard  the  S&S  as  a  political  weapon. 

Connie  had  expressed  her  anxiety,  when  she  received  a  letter  of  acknowledg- 
ment from  Miss  Olson  (a  secretary  to  Mins),  as  to  the  care  with  which  the 
fraction  and  the  oflBcial  body  are  being  distinguished.  Not  only  your  letter 
made  it  clear  that  the  memorandum  is  addressed  to  the  fraction,  but  I  also 
repeated  it  verbally  to  Parry.  Parry  explained  to  me,  however,  practically 
all  of  the  members  of  the  editorial  board  either  are  or  once  were  members 
of  the  Party,  and  that  the  fraction  and  the  editorial  board  are  almost  identical. 

This  fact  itself  reveals  a  shortcoming  in  my  mind.  Most  concretely,  the  short- 
coming came  into  light  at  the  time  our  memorandum  was  brought  down  to 
New  York.  At  that  time  most  editors  were  terrifically  busy  in  other  duties 
of  theirs  (in  connection  with  the  fight  against  Trotskyists)  and,  according 
to  Parry,  were  not  in  the  position  to  take  up  our  memorandum  for  discussion 
immediately.  My  concrete  suggestion  is :  the  S&S  should  be  able  to  enlist 
progressive  intellectuals  (who  are  not  party  members)  who  could  make  their 
activities  in  the  S&S  as  their  primary  task.  (The  success  of  Left  Book  Club 
in  England  seems  to  me  to  be  partially  due  to  this  factor.)  I  do  not  mean 
to  say  that  our  memorandum  would  have  received  a  faster  response  had  there 
been  such  persons  active  for  the  magazine ;  but  I  mean  to  say  that  the  maga- 
zine and  all  other  works  connected  with  it  (e.  g.  study  groups)  should  not 
be  solely  in  the  hands  of  party  members  who  are  very  often  called  to  their 
duties  even  when  they  are  needed  in  the  magazine. 

I  wish  to  get  your  reaction  to  these  problems,  as  well  as  to  previous  letters, 
as  soon  as  you  get  some  moments  to  scribble  down.  I  am  sending  a  copy  of 
this  letter  to  Connie. 

Warmest  greetings 

(TSUBU). 

Mr.  Morris.  Now,  you  wrote  that,  did  you  not,  Mr.  Tsuru? 

Mr.  Tsuru.  Mr.  Chairman,  since  this  is  a  copy,  I  cannot  absolutely 
identify  it  but  from  internal  evidence  I  am  certain  I  wrote  it. 

Mr.  Morris.  And  that  would  make  it  very  clear  that  at  that  time 
you  knew  that  the  makeup  of  the  board  of  Science  and  Society  was 
made  up  virtually  of  members  of  the  Communist  Party. 

Mr.  Tsuru.  That  is  the  way  Parry  told  me,  and  since  I  have  no  way 
of  checking  on  the  matter  and  I  was  not  especially  interested  on 
checking  the  matter  at  the  time,  I  more  or  less  took  Mr.  Parry's  word 
for  it. 


SCOPE    OF    SOVIET   ACTIVITY    EST    THE    UNITED    STATES       3717 

Mr.  Morris.  Now,  earlier  in  that  memorandum  you  make 

Mr.  TsuRU.  Memorandum  ? 

Mr.  Morris.  Letter,  I  am  sorry,  February  22,  1937,  letter,  you  men- 
tion the  makeup  of  study  groups  in  what  you  call  the  association. 
And  there  you  mention,  as  follows : 

Attendance 

SGI,  white-collar-workers'  group,  Socialists  predominating;  text — ^Leon- 
tiev's  Pol.  Ee 10-15 

SG2,  a  group  branched  off  from  SGI,  because  the  number  of  SGI  became 
too  large  ;  text — the  same  as  above 5 

SG3,  graduate  students  and  instructors  in  the  Economics  Dept. ;  text — 
Capital 5-8 

SG4,  graduate  students  and  instructors  in  the  Ec.  Dept.,  some  over- 
lapping with  SG.3  seminar — Economics  of  Socialist  Society 5-8 

SGo,  graduate  students  from  various  depts. ;  text — Lenin's  works 5-10 

SG6,  graduate  students  from  various  depts. ;  seminar — Dialectic 
Materialism 5 

JRSl,  John  Reed  Society  classes,  mostly  undergraduates ;  topic — His- 
torical Materialism 20-30 

JRS2,  John  Reed  Society  class,  mostly  undergraduates;  topic — Current 

Events 20-30 

Now,  that  totals  more  than  100,  does  it  not,  Mr.  Tsuru? 

Mr.  Tsuru.  There  might  have  been  overlapping  ones. 

Mr.  Morris.  These  are  study  groups  that  generally  include  material 
about  Science  and  Society.  You  were  then  writing  to  Mr.  Karl- 
Heinrich  Niebyl  at  this  time  ? 

Mr.  Tsuru.  Yes.  I  am  not  quite  sure  because  as  I  recall,  there  was 
an  attempt  to  organize  this  Association  of  Marxist  studies  which 
would  not  necessarily  confine  the  attention  to  Science  and  Society. 
I  personally  felt  at  the  time  that  Science  and  Society  could  be  used 
for  the  association,  as  sort  of  rallying  point,  but  certainly  other  books 
and  magazine  materials  could  be  utilized  for  the  purpose  of  study. 

Mr.  Morris.  And  as  you  said  earlier  in  your  letter — "with  these 
study  groups,  however,''  of  which  you  wrote  in  in  your  August  31 
letter,  August  31, 1936 

Mr.  Tsuru.  Yes. 

Mr.  Morris  (continuing)  : 

is  the  necessity  of  leading  ordinary  members  of  these  study  groups  into  a  more 
mature  form  of  organization  or  activities.  To  be  a  member  of  a  study 
group  may  be  a  step  toward  enrolling  the  Worker's  School :  it  may  be  a  step 
toward  joining  the  American  League  Against  War  and  Fascism ;  it  may  be  a 
step  toward  becoming  a  member  of  TCL  or  of  the  party.  It  is  absolutely  nec- 
essary to  keep  a  study  group  from  becoming  a  self -perpetuating,  stagnant  cloister 
for  the  few. 

In  other  words,  as  you  suggested  in  your  February  22  letter,  were 
these  people  to  be  directed  toward  the  Communist  Party  ? 

Mr.  Tsuru.  May  I  answer  this  question 

Senator  Jenner.  You  may. 

Mr.  Tsuru  (continuing) .  In  slightly  amplified  form? 

Senator  Jenner.  Certainly. 

Mr.  Tsuru.  From  my  experience  in  Japan  as  a  member  of  the  Anti- 
Imperialism  League  about  which  I  related  yesterday,  I  had  a  certain 
preconception  about  the  publication  of  a  magazine  like  Science  and 
Society.  That  is  to  say  to  publish  such  a  magazine  and  do  nothing 
else  would  be  meaningless.  That  was  my  idea.  And  I  felt  that  if  we 
are  going  to  publish  a  magazine  like  Science  and  Society  at  all,  we 
should  do  our  utmost  to  introduce  people  into  Science  and  Society  and 


3718       SCOPE    OF    SOVIET   ACTIVITY    IN   THE    UNITED    STATES 

through  that  association  with  Science  and  Society  go  into  more  po- 
litical activities.  That  is  a  preconception  which,  I  might  say,  I 
learned  from  my  experience  in  the  Anti-Imperialism  League.  That  is 
the  way  I  operated,  for  example,  "operate"  is  not  a  very  good  word, 
but  I  worked  in  the  Anti-Imperialism  League,  first  introduced  students 
into  study  groups,  and  then  tried  to  persuade  them  to  come  into  more 
active  works  like  fighting  against  war  in  China. 

Now,  I  carried  over  these  preconceptions  and  at  the  time  these  let- 
ters were  written,  I  can  now  see,  although  I  did  not  remember 
before  these  letters  were  shown  to  me,  I  can  now  see  I  was  strongly 
convinced  of  the  importance  of  such  matters.  Therefore,  I  do  not 
make  any  attempt  to  deny  that  in  this  period  of  1936  — •,  in  particular, 
I  acted  like  a  Communist,  I  spoke  and  wrote  like  a  Communist.  But 
as  I  said  yesterday,  I  should  like  to  state  again,  I  never  was  a  member, 
either  of  the  Young  Communist  League  or  the  Communist  Party  any- 
where in  the  world. 

In  philosophic  terms,  I  should  consider  myself  that  I  was  then  a  free 
agent,  a  free  agent  is  a  philosophical  term,  so  do  not  misunderstand  me 
if  I  use  the  word  "agent" — free  agent,  I  was  free  to  decide  on  my  own 
actions  and  ideas,  not  subject  to  any  discipline  by  any  organization. 

Mr.  Morris.  Mr.  Chairman,  I  would  like  to  offer  for  the  record, 
I  would  like  to  have  go  into  the  record — I  haven't  finished  examining 
the  witness  on  this  point — the  letter  of  September  6, 1936,  to  Mr.  Tsuru. 

Senator  Jenner.  It  may  go  into  the  record  and  become  a  part  of  the 
official  record. 

(The  document  referred  to  is  printed  as  exhibit  443  at  page  3706.) 

Mr.  Morris.  I  would  like  to  have  go  into  the  record  the  letter  of 
December  14,  1936,  to  Mr.  Karl-Heinrich  Niebyl. 

Senator  Jenner.  It  may  go  into  the  record  and  become  a  part  of 
the  official  record. 

(The  document  referred  to  was  marked  "Exhibit  No.  447"  and  reads 
as  follows:) 

Exhibit  No.  447 

36  Claverly  Hall,  Cambridge,  Mass. 

December  14, 1936. 

Deae  Karl-Heineich  (Niebyl)  :  I  write  this  letter  with  eager  hope  that  I  shall 
be  able  to  see  you  in  Chicago  sometime  during  the  Christmas  vacation  and  to  dis- 
cuss some  of  the  matters  I  mention  below.  I  expect  to  arrive  at  Chicago  on 
December  24th  and  to  stay  there  or  thereabouts  at  least  until  January  3rd. 

As  you  might  have  heard,  the  subscription  to  S&S  has  gone  over  the  figure 
of  1,500  and  the  total  sale  is  exceeding  8,000,  although  the  sale  of  over  10,000 
seems  to  be  necessary  to  make  the  magazine  self-sustaining,  (the  above  figures 
from  the  Managing  Editor.)  One  piece  of  information,  however,  has  "dis- 
turbed" us  a  little.  That  is,  that  most  of  the  subs  coming  in  recently  are  from 
the  Middle  West  and  Far  West.  Although  some  editors  are  commenting  on 
this  fact  as  'a  welcome  good  sign,'  I  observe  two  things.  Firstly,  we  have  failed 
in  the  eastern  part  of  the  country  in  organizing  and  systematizing  the  subscrip- 
tion drive.  Knowing  the  way  Connie  was  doing  in  Chicago  or  the  way  Herman 
and  Cookson  were  doing  in  Madison,  I  think  that  the  extent  to  which  we  paid 
our  attention  in  the  east  to  the  question  of  subs  has  been  extremely  inadequate. 
(In  November,  it  was  estimated  that  about  30  percent  of  the  total  sub  was  from 
the  state  of  New  York  and  about  10  percent  from  that  of  Massachusetts.)  I 
am  trying  my  best  within  my  power  to  mend  this  shortcoming.  Secondly,  the 
increasing  subscription  from  the  Middle  West  suggests  to  my  mind  immediately 
the  lack  of  adequately  coherent  contacts  between  New  York  (which  is  now  the 
headquarter  for  the  magazine)  and  other  districts  throughout  the  country.  In 
this  connection,  these  specific  problems  come  to  my  mind: 

(1)  the  problem  of  Science  and  Society  Clubs:  you  undoubtedly  know 
the  decision  of  the  editorial  board  on  the  question.     There  has  been  a 


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new  development  in  Cambridge,  and  S.  S.  C.  has  been  organized.    I  should 
like  to  discuss  with  you  further  on  this  question  when  I  see  you. 

(2)  the  nature  of  the  magazine  S&S :  it  is  being  discussed  in  Cambridge 
whether  the  primary  emphasis  is  on  the  educational  significance  of  S&S 
to  the  intelligentzia  or  on  the  academic  research  of  Marxists. 

(3)  the  problem  of  establishing  the  mechanism  of  contacts  between  N.  Y. 
and  other  districts :  I  have  suggested  to  W.  T.  Parry  to  bring  this  matter 
concretely  at  the  next  editorial  meeting.  I  suggested  that  we  should  en- 
courage in  all  the  districts  to  establish  a  responsible  agent  whose  primary 
task  is  to  serve  as  a  channel  between  the  editorial  board  on  the  one  hand 
and  readers  and  contributors  on  the  other.  Such  channels  from  all  the 
districts  are  directed  to  N.  Y.  like  spokes  of  a  wheel ;  and  there  shall  be  a 
committee  in  N.  Y.  to  receive  them  for  coordinating  purposes. 

As  to  my  article  on  Lange  and  Sweezy,  I  didn't  hear  from  N.  Y.  for  long  time. 
So,  I  finally  went  down  there  to  find  out  what's  the  matter  with  it.  They  seem  to 
be  agreed  on  publishing  it  with  slight  alterations,  but  apparently  didn't  take  any 
action  toward  publishing  it  in  the  second  issue.  The  article  is  now  floating 
somewhere,  and  we  are  unable  to  trace  it  thus  far.  In  any  case,  since  the  time 
I  wrote  that  article,  there  has  appeared  Mises'  book  on  Wirtschafts-rechnung 
in  English  translation  and  another  article  of  Lange's  in  the  October  issue  of 
The  Review  of  Economic  Studies  on  The  Economic  Theory  of  Socialism.  Mean- 
while, S&S  has  accepted,  I  hear,  the  review  of  Mises's  book  (above  mentioned) 
by  Paul  Sweezy — the  review  which  merely  restates  what  Lange  says  in  the  above 
article.  Thus,  the  extensive  rewriting  of  my  original  article  and  publishing 
it  in  the  third  issue  of  S&S  seems  to  me  to  be  necessary.  I  hope  I  shall  be 
able  to  prepare  a  rewritten  manuscript  before  I  leave  here  for  Chicago,  so  that 
I  can  again  call  your  assistance  in  straightening  out  my  ideas. 

As  I  hope  you  have  been  informed,  the  editorial  board  is  planning  to  prepare 
A  (hiide  to  Marxist  Studies.  It  "will  serve  to.  indicate  the  best  expositions  of 
Marxism  and  its  implications  for  the  special  branches  of  knowledge.  The  Guide 
will  therefore  be  neither  exhaustive  nor  for  the  advanced  student  as  such,  but 
for  the  ordinary  intelligent  student  of  socialism."  (quoted  from  the  prospectus) 
The  classification  of  contents,  indicated  in  the  prospectus,  seemed  to  me  to  be 
very  unsatisfactory.  Thus  we  called  a  meeting  in  Cambridge  to  discuss  that 
matter,  and  arrived  at  an  alternative  suggestion  to  which  the  Chairman  (for 
preparing  this  Guide)  still  disagrees.  The  original  classifications  is  in  outline 
as  follows : 

1.  General  introduction 

2.  The  United  States  : 

a.  History 

b.  Labor  Movement 

c.  Political  theory 

d.  Literature 

3.  The  History  of  Socialism  : 

a.  Doctrine 

b.  Revolutionary  movements  in  Europe 

c.  Socialism  in  practice 

4.  Philosophy  of  Dialectic  Materialism 

5.  Political  Economy 

6.  The  Sciences : 

a.  The  Physical  sciences 

b.  The  sciences  of  human  life 

7.  The  Arts: 

a.  Literature 

b.  The  fine  arts 

c.  Music 

d.  Drama 

e.  Film 

8.  Law 

9.  Education 

10.  Periodicals 

11.  Index  of  Authors 

The  alternative  I  suggested  is  as  follows : 

1.  Introduction 

2.  Dialectic  Materialism : 

a.  Philosophy 

b.  Applications  in  natural  sciences 


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3.  Historical  Materialism : 

a.  Theory 

b.  Application  in  general  history 

c.  Applications  in  Special  fields  of  superstructure 

( 1 )  Political  theory  and  law 

(2)  Sociology  and  anthropology 

(3)  Education 

(4)  Arts 

4.  History  of  Socialist  Movements 

5.  Political  Economy 

6.  Contemporary  W^orld  Problems  : 

a.  Imperialism  and  colonial  problems 

b.  Fascism 

7.  Tactics  of  Revolutionary  Movements 

8.  Socialism  in  Practice  :  U.  S.  S.  R. 

9.  Periodicals 

On  this  question  also,  I  should  like  to  have  a  discussion  with  you  when  I  see  you 
in  Chicago. 

I  regret  very  much  that  I  have  not  been  able  to  fulfill  the  promise  of  sending 
you  the  list  of  whatever  worthwhile  references  and  materials  which  came  to  my 
attention.    The  reason  for  my  failure  is  that  I  myself  have  been  too  busy  during 
the  semester  to  keep  such  things  up  to  date. 

Best  wishes  to  Gertrude  and  Connie. 

Looking  forward  to  seeing  you  soon. 

TSURU. 

Mr.  Morris.  I  would  lilve  to  have  go  into  the  record  the  letter  of 
August  31, 1936,  to  Mr.  Bill  Parry. 

Senator  Jenner.  It  may  go  into  the  record  and  become  a  part  of  the 
official  record. 

(The  document  referred  to  was  marked  "Exhibit  No.  442"  and  ap- 
pears at  p.  3704). 

Mr.  Morris.  I  would  like  to  have  go  into  the  record  the  letter  of 
April  9, 1937,  to  Constance  Kyle. 

Senator  Jenner.  It  may  go  into  the  record  and  become  a  part  of 
the  official  record. 

(The  document  referred  to  was  marked  "'Exhibit  No.  448"  and  reads 
as  follows:) 

Exhibit  No.  448 

36  Clavekly  Haxl, 
Cambridge,  Mass.,  April  9, 1937. 

Dear  Connie  [Constance  Kyle]  :  Have  you  received  an  answer  from  N.  Y. 
to  our  memorandum?  I  have  repeatedly  inquired  Parry  about  it,  but  no  avail. 
Finally  I  suggested  that  I  shall  go  down  to  N.  Y.  in  the  weekend  of  April  10 
to  discuss  the  matter.  Parry,  who  is  now  in  N.  Y.  wrote  me  to-day  that  "I  don't 
think  it's  worth  your  while  to  come  down  to  N.  Y.  so  far  as  S&S  is  concerned."  He 
does  not  mention  about  the  memorandum  at  all.  Instead,  he  tells  me  that  "Con- 
stance Kyle  has  only  paid  five  dollars  and  some  cents  for  100  copies  of  the  first 
issue,  and  is  vague  about  the  rest  of  the  money.  She  doesn't  seem  to  know  even 
whether  the  copies  have  been  sold  or  not."  This  is  not  the  first  time  that  my  men- 
tion of  memorandum  was  responded  by  their  reference  to  you  in  one  way  or  an- 
other. I  have  persistently  repeated  to  Parry  that  the  matter  of  the  memorandum 
is  of  immediate  and  primary  importance  and  that  according  to  my  impression 
their  slow  response  is  partly  due  to  their  slipshodness  with  which  they  distinguish 
the  party  fraction  from  the  editorial  board.  The  memorandum  is  addressed  to  the 
fraction ;  and  it  seems  to  me  that  it  is  a  breach  of  discipline  for  them  to  have  laid 
it  aside  for  more  than  two  months.  I  have  no  authority  to  say  anything  further 
on  this  matter.  So,  I  hope  that  you  and  Karl-Heinrich  will  press  this  matter  and 
work  toward  dispelling  any  misunderstandings. 
With  warmest  regards 

TSUEU. 

Also  a  copy  to  K.  H.  N.  [Karl  Heinrich  Niebyl]. 

Mr.  Morris.  I  would  like  to  have  go  into  the  record  the  letter  of 
April  14, 1937,  to  Shigeto. 


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Senator  Jenner,  It  may  go  into  the  record  and  become  a  part  of 
the  official  record. 

(The  docmnent  was  marked  "Exhibit  No.  448-A"  and  reads  as 
follows :) 

Exhibit  No.  448-A 

1430  Hyde  Pabk  Blvd.,  Chicago,  Illinois, 

April  1^,1937. 

Deak  Shigeto  :  I  am  enclosing  a  copy  of  the  letter  to  Mins  as  the  simplest  way 
of  showing  you  the  present  status  of  business  aspect  of  SandS.  This  checks  with 
New  York  accounts  and  settles  funds  to  date.  I  don't  know  what  you  think  of 
local  sentiment  on  the  single  copy  question  but  there  is  nothing  final  about  it  and 
we're  open  to  suggestions  and  your  opinion.  It's  quite  possible  that  the  senti- 
ment among  local  agents  suffers  from  some  of  the  same  difficulty  as  you  mention 
in  the  Editorial  Board — to  many  diverse  demands  on  the  time  of  our  own  people. 
However,  I  doubt  if  agents  work  will  be  taken  on  by  any  but  our  own  people 
and  it  will  certainly  simplify  the  business  details  with  the  New  York  office  if  subs 
are  sent  from  us  and  single  copies  are  regarded  as  the  province  of  regularly  con- 
stituted book  stores. 

The  following  is  a  quote  from  Miss  Olson's  letter  of  Feb.  4th  and  the  only 
reference  I  have  received  to  the  memorandum  : 

"The  long  letter  of  criticism,  of  which  you  were  one  of  the  signers,  has  just 
come  down  to  the  New  York  Editors.  It  will  be  considered  very  carefully  by 
them  and  will  undoubtedly  be  answered.  They  wish  to  thank  you  in  advance 
for  your  part  in  the  criticism,  and  to  express  their  appreciation  of  your 
cooperation." 

You'll  know  best  how  much  they  should  be  pushed  for  such  an  answer.  The 
material  included  there  on  the  contents  of  the  first  issue  is  of  course  more  or 
less  out  dated  by  now.  We  would  like  to  know  of  it  if  there  has  been  any  exten- 
sive use  made  by  study  groups  elsewhere,  and  especially  if  any  other  Workers' 
School  has  some  experience  accumulated  by  now. 

I've  never  been  very  clear  as  to  what  might  be  expected  of  us  in  the  way  of 
taking  responsibility  for  territory  outside  of  the  city  of  Chicago.  Frankly, 
Shigeto,  it's  a  physical  impossibility  unless  we  can  get  more  personnel  involved. 
Let  me  know  what  you  think  should  be  done  so  that  I  can  use  it  as  a  basis  for 
discussion  with  responsible  people  locally  to  determine  how  they  think  we  can 
manage  it.  It's  highly  probable  they  will  veto  any  consideration  of  my  dropping 
other  work  to  follow  this  up  in  other  cities.  But  lets  get  clear  first  on  what  needs 
to  be  done. 

Hope  we  can  look  forward  to  your  coming  to  the  middle  west  as  vacation  time 
rolls  around. 

Sincerely, 

/s/  Constance  (Kyle). 

Mr.  Morris.  I  would  like  to  have  go  into  the  record  the  letter  of 
January  31, 1937,  to  Karl-Heinrich, 

Senator  Jenner.  It  may  go  into  tlie  record  and  become  a  part  of  the 
official  record. 

(The  docmnent  referred  to  was  marked  "Exhibit  No.  449"  and  reads 

as  follows:) 

Exhibit  No.  449 

36  Claverly  Hall,  Cambridge,  Mass., 

January  31,  1937. 

Dear  Karl-Heinrich  :  I  received  your  letter  and  the  memorandum  yesterday ; 
and  after  going  through  it  again,  I  handed  the  memorandum  to  Parry.  I  should 
like  you  to  let  me  know  whether  you  can  use  your  own  name  as  an  editor.  I  un- 
derstood you  to  say  so,  but  I  should  like  to  make  certain  of  it. 

After  I  came  back  here  in  the  middle  of  the  month  ( I  was  detained  in  a  hospital 
in  Pittsburgh  for  influenza),  I  found  the  situation  here  to  be  very  unsatisfactory, 
so  far  as  the  matter  of  S&S  is  concerned.  No  inroad  had  been  made  into  under- 
graduates;  efforts  expended  were  scattered  and  unco-ordinated ;  study-groups 
were  waning  both  in  number  and  vigor ;  and  so  on.  Tightening  up  will  follow, 
at  least  I  shall  see  to  it  that  all  the  efforts  be  made  to  that  end,  when  and  as  soon 
as  our  memorandum  is  discussed  here.  So,  as  to  the  situation  here,  I  shall  let 
you  know  on  the  next  occasion. 


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The  project  of  compiling  "A  Guide  to  Marxian  Studies"  has  been  progressing 
rather  f alteringly.  Harap,  the  chairman,  aslied  Webbs  to  take  one  assignment ; 
but  they,  as  could  have  been  expected,  refused.  Some  of  the  completed  assign- 
ments were  discussed  by  the  committee  in  Cambridge  last  week.  Salient  con- 
tradictions in  the  original  plan  came  out  concretely  into  relief ;  such  as,  the  lack 
of  care  concerning  the  personnel,  the  nature  of  the  guide,  etc.  Harap  explained 
to  me  that  (1)  as  to  the  inadequate  choice  of  personnel,  we  can  mend  it  by 
checking  and  recheeking,  and  (2)  as  to  the  vagueness  of  the  nature  of  the 
Guide,  we  might  as  well  pool  all  the  informations  first  and  later  use  knife  and 
scissors.  I  did  not  raise  any  problems,  because  I  thought  that  the  memorandum 
would.  Undoubtedly,  we  shall  have  a  discussion  on  the  matter  of  the  Guide  soon. 
Meanwhile,  Harap  has  repeatedly  urged  me  to  hasten  whomever  I  have  asked  to 
take  the  assignment  on  Political  Economy  to  finish  it  and  send  it  to  Cambridge. 
This  "whomever,"  as  I  hope  you  remember,  means  you  yourself. 

Although  I  trust  the  truth  of  Parry's  explanation,  I  feel  very  much  annoyed 
about  my  article.  I  handed  in  two  copies.  And  now  I  am  told  that  the  only 
person  who  read  it  in  New  York  is  Ramsay  (and  a  few  others  whom  Ramsay 
showed).  Both  copies  are  "lost."  Since  the  editors  never  broach  the  subject 
to  me  unless  I  do  it  first,  I  gather  that  they  are  not,  according  to  their  editorial 
policy,  very  eager  to  have  the  article  in  the  magazine  at  this  moment.  Although 
I  could  not  very  well  emphasize  the  timeliness  of  the  topic  (Laski  stressed  the 
necessity  of  the  Marxian  critique  on  the  problem  in  his  recent  article  in  The  New 
Statesman  and  Nation)  because  it  concerns  my  own  article,  I  suggested  to 
Parry  that  I  shall  rewrite  it  again  as  soon  as  possible  so  that  it  will  be  in  time 
for  the  third  issue,  if  the  editors  want  me  to.  Parry  thinks  that  the  editors 
wish  me  to  do  so.  While  we  are  tarrying,  two  more  articles  have  appeared  on  the 
subject  of  economic  planning  in  a  socialist  society;  one  by  Alan  Sweezy  in  the 
volume  in  honor  of  Taussig  (Alan  is  the  elder  brother  of  Paul  Sweezy)  and 
another  by  Darbin  in  the  current  issue  of  Economic  Journal.  Lange's  concluding 
article  will  appear  shortly  in  the  February  issue  of  the  Review  of  Economic 
Studies.  (By  the  way,  when  you  get  through  with  the  last  copy  of  R.  E.  S. 
which  I  left  with  you  in  Chicago,  I  should  like  you  to  send  it  back  to  me.  I  wish 
to  use  it  in  rewriting  my  article. ) 

As  to  Paul  Sweezy's  review  of  von  Mises's  book  on  economic  planning.  Parry 
does  not  know  precisely  why  it  was  left  out  of  the  second  issue  of  S&S.  I  am 
not  quite  certain  whether  the  second  issue  is  really  very  much  of  an  improve- 
ment over  the  first.  I  haven't  read  all  the  articles,  though.  As  to  Darrell's 
article:  (1)  His  exposition  of  Keynes'  ideas,  in  spite  of  covering  such  a  wide 
space,  is  inadequate  in  the  sense  that  it  does  not  bring  out  the  salient  points 
into  relief  and  further  that  it  is  almost  incomprehensible  to  non-economists.  (I 
have  found  this  out  by  talking  to  those  who  have  read  the  article).  (2)  Points 
of  agreement  between  Marx  and  Keynes  which  Darrell  finds  are  superficial.  In 
Keynes,  the  matter  of  talking  in  terms  of  homogeneous  labor  and  of  calculating 
cost  by  the  unit  of  such  homogeneous  labor  alone  is  only  a  technical  device  suited 
for  his  own  convenience  and  is  not  an  essential  element.  Perhaps  the  most  likely 
similarity  between  Keynes  and  Marx,  if  at  all,  is  their  theory  of  the  rate  of  in- 
terest (distinguished  from  the  rate  of  profit).  (3)  Too  many  running  comments 
of  quibbling  nature.  Often  these  hide  behind  them  very  important  questions. 
(4)  Darrell's  major  criticism  thus  far  (because  this  is  only  the  first  installment) 
is  that  the  Keynes's  method  essentially  concords  with  a  subjective  theory  of 
value.  (He  calls  in  the  authority  of  Hicks  who  only  says  that  Keynes's  technique 
is  the  technique  of  Marshall.)  Though  Keynes  resorts  to  "a  fundamental  psy- 
chological law"  and  uses  a  number  of  quasi-psychological  terms,  I  feel  that  the 
weakness  of  Keynes  lies  not  in  "psychologizing"  (Darrell)  but  in  inventing  those 
categories  which,  by  taking  care  of  imponderables  in  a  bundle  fashion,  enable 
him  to  render  his  theoretical  formulation  precise  and  to  give  the  appearance  of  its 
usability  in  prediction  and  control.  Before  I  see  the  second  installment,  I  could 
not  say,  of  course,  that  Darrell  has  not  dealt  with  the  fundamental  weakness  of 
Keynes.  To  my  knowledge,  Leontief  in  Q.  J.  E.  and  Schumpeter  in  Journal  of 
American  Statistical  Asso.  have  done  more  damage  on  Keynes  than  Darrell.  It 
is  unfortunate  that  Darrell's  review  had  to  come  in  two  installments.  Parry 
tells  me  that  he  did  not  even  read  the  article  because  it  came  in  too  late. 

As  to  Hogben's  article:  (1)  First  of  all,  I  must  report  to  you  that  this  article 
has  been  received  rather  favorably  by  a  large  number  of  my  university  acquaint- 
ances around  here.  (2)  I  have  a  serious  objection  to  this  article.  When  Hogben 
shows  concretely  the  relation  between  ideology  and  basic  structure,  I  only  ap- 


SCOPE    OF    SOVIET   ACTIVITY    IN    THE    UNITED    STATES      3723 

plaud.  But  when  he  comes,  in  the  last  third  of  the  article,  to  condemn  "the 
obsessional  Germanophilia"  and  ask  for  the  acceptance  of  the  limitations  im- 
posed by  a  common  linguistic  culture,  I  feel  he  is  overanxious  to  the  extent  of 
clouding  the  element  of  truth  which  his  message  contains.  His  overanxious- 
ness  in  this  regard  goes  so  far  that  in  the  first  part  of  his  article  he  gives  the 
credit  of  being  a  pioneer  in  the  labor  theory  of  value  to  William  Petty  by  quot- 
ing a  sentence  which  does  not  have  an  intimation  of  the  labor  theory  of  value 
(cf.  p.  142)  and  then  makes  alluding  remarks  here  and  there  to  the  effect  that 
Anglo-American  scientists  of  the  18th  century  were  already  historical  mate- 
rialists (cf.  p.  143  11.13-17,  p.  146  1.29),  and  finally  attributes  erroneously  the 
formalism  of  Robbins  to  the  scholastic  tradition  of  English  universities  (p.  144). 
The  upshot  is  to  call  the  method  of  dialectic  materialism  as  "a  foreign  creed" 
or  "a  pot  of  message."  One  gets  the  impression  as  if  he  were  saying  that  we 
in  England  and  America  have  scientists  who  were  the  pioneers  in  the  labor 
theory  of  value  and  historical  materialism,  why  should  we  bother  reading  Hegel 
or  even  Marx !  To  criticize  formula-ism  is  one  thing ;  to  condemn  the  study  of 
the  method  of  dialectics  by  studying  Hegel  is  another  thing.  It  is  not  "our 
social  ( ?)  heritage"  which  we  must  nurture  and  develop  (in  fact,  we  must  revo- 
lutionize much  of  our  social  heritage),  but  it  is  the  application  of  the  new 
method  (in  understanding  our  heritage  and  in  deriving  whatever  fruits  we  may 
derive)  that  we  must  learn  and  learn  it  despite  the  bourgeois  heritage. 

As  to  the  review  by  Kuznets,  I  feel  that  it  does  not  have  a  place  in  Science 
and  Society.  A  Marxist  review  should  take  its  place  on  those  books  of  the 
Brookings  Institution. 

As  to  the  review  by  Schuman,  I  feel  very  sorry  that  the  editors  had  to  cater 
to  those  intellectuals  who  are  awed  by  the  name  of  Schuman,  if  such  was  the 
reason  (since  I  do  not  see  any  other  reason)  of  including  this  review.  On  the 
books  of  Grover  Clark  also,  we  can  afford  to  have  a  Marxist  review ;  and  there 
are  more  than  a  few  persons  who  can  do  it. 

I  also  read  Leo  Roberts'  article.  It  starts  out  well  with  promises  attractive 
enough  (cf.  p.  169  1.30).     But  the  whole  thing  is  a  disappointing  muddle. 

I  am  sending  you,  under  a  separate  cover,  the  January  issue  of  The  Left  News. 
You  may  have  seen  it.  But  just  in  case  you  haven't.  And  I  enclose  here  four 
coupons.  Though  Americans  are  not  eligible  as  members,  you  can  get  around 
it  by  writing  to  G.  C.  MacLaulin  as  is  indicated  on  the  coupon.  MacLaulin,  like 
Ralph  Fox,  was  killed  in  a  battle  near  Madrid  recently.  But  his  friends  are 
taking  care  of  this  agent-job.  In  the  Left  News,  read  especially  an  account 
"The  Groups  Month  by  Month"  by  the  organizer  of  the  local  groups.  Dr.  John 
Lewis. 

As  we  say  in  our  oriental  proverb,  we  may  learn  from  them  though  they  are 
"stones  from  other  mountains." 

Do  take  care  of  your  health.     And  warmest  regards  to  you  and  Gertrude. 

(TSITBU) 

Mr.  Glover.  Mr.  Morris  has  promised  to  obtain  for  us  the  docu- 
ments from  which  these  copies  were  made. 

Mr.  Morris.  He  didn't  promise. 

Senator  Jenner.  He  said  he  would  attempt  to. 

Mr.  Glover.  Because  the  comments  Mr.  Tsuru  made  with  respect  to 
this  first  letter  are  applicable  to  the  other  letters. 

Mr.  SouRWiNE.  I  respectfully  suggest  that  if  counsel  is  going  to 
testify,  he  be  sworn. 

Senator  Jenner.  If  you  want  to  confer  with  your  client  at  any  time, 
permission  will  be  granted,  but  we  want  no  further  interruption. 

Mr.  Morris.  Mr.  Chairman,  I  would  like  to  call  the  witness'  atten- 
tion to  the  reference  to  the  memorandum  in  the  letter  of  February  22, 
1937,  last  large  paragraph : 

This  fact  itself  reveals  a  shortcoming  in  my  mind.  Most  concretely,  the  short- 
coming came  into  light  at  the  time  our  memorandum  was  brought  down  to  New 
York. 

Then  in  the  letter  of  April  9  you  write  : 

I  have  persistently  repeated  to  Parry  that  the  matter  of  the  memorandum  is 
of  immediate  and  primary  importance  and  that  according  to  my  impression  their 


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slow  response  is  partly  due  to  their  slipsliodness  with  which  they  distinguish 
the  party  fraction  from  the  editorial  board.  The  memorandum  is  addressed  to 
the  fraction ;  and  it  seems  to  me  that  it  is  a  breach  of  discipline  for  them  to  have 
laid  it  aside  for  more  than  2  months. 

You  mean  it  is  a  breach  of  Communist  Party  discipline  ? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  I  think  that  is  the  implication  I  gave  at  that  place.  But 
please  look  at  the  following  sentence  where  I  say,  "I  have  no  authority 
to  say  anything  further  on  this  matter." 

Mr.  Morris.  That  seems  to  say  there  is  a  limitation  in  your 
authority  ? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  I  was  not  a  member  of  the  Communist  Party  although  I 
was  aware  that  the  memorandum  was  to  be  addressed  to  the  fraction  I 
could  not  bring  the  matter  into,  in  the  Communist  organization  per- 
sonally. 

The  only  thing  I  could  do  w^as  to  speak  to  Mr.  Parry  and  I  think 
that  is  the  reason  I 

Senator  Jenner.  Now,  Mr.  Parry  was  a  Communist. 

Mr.  TsuRU.  That  is  my  understanding  at  the  time.  If  you  ask  me 
what  I  think  of  him  now,  I  haven't  seen  him  since  about  1940  so  I 
cannot  testify  anything  about  him  since  1940. 

Senator  Jenner.  You  don't  even  know  where  he  is  ? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  I  don't  even  know  where  he  is.  So  the  very  fact  that  I 
was  not  a  member  of  the  Communist  Party  made  it  necessary  for  me, 
under  the  circumstances,  to  press  Parry  constantly  on  the  matter,  and 
I  wrote  to  Miss  Kyle  that  I  have  no  authority  to  say  anything  further 
in  this  matter. 

Mr.  Morris.  Now,  I  offer  you,  and  you  have  seen  it  overnight,  have 
you  not,  a  document  which  purports  to  be  a  memorandum  to  the  edi- 
tors of  Science  and  Society  ? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  To  the  editors ;  yes. 

Mr.  Morris.  Now  you  have  had  a  chance  to  look  at  that :  have  vou 
not  ?  ^ 

Mr.  TsuRU.  Yes. 

Mr.  Morris.  And  this  is  the  memorandum  to  which  you  refer  in  this 
last  letter  that  I  have  read  ? 

Mr.  TsTJRU.  Yes. 

Mr.  Morris.  And  this  is  the  memorandum  that  you  said  was  ad- 
dressed to  the  party  fraction  ? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  Exactly. 

Mr.  Morris.  You  were  one  of  the  three  people  who  signed  this  ? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  Yes ;  but  if  I  may,  I  should  like  to  explain. 

Mr.  Morris.  It  bears  the  signature.  Senator,  of  Constance  Kyle, 
Department  of  Psychiatry,  University  of  Chicago;  Karl  Niebyl,  De- 
partment of  Economics,  Carleton  College,  and  Alfred  Z.  Lowe.  Yes- 
terday you  remember  that  the  witness  told  us  he  used  the  name  Alfred 
Z.  Lowe  ? 

Senator  Jexxer.  In  other  words,  you  signed  this  document  as  Al- 
fred Z.  Lowe  ? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Morris.  And  I  might  say,  subpenas  have  been  issued  for  the 
others. 

Senator  Jenner.  This  memorandum  will  go  into  the  record  and  be- 
come a  part  of  the  official  record  of  this  committee. 


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(The  document  referred  to  was  marked  "Exhibit  No.  450,"  and  reads 

as  follows:) 

Exhibit  No.  450 

Editors  of  S.  and  S.  (Science  and  Society) 

After  the  distribution  of  the  first  issue  of  S.  and  S.  the  undersigned  feel  it 
necessary  to  review  the  work  done  and  the  methods  employed  with  special  refer- 
ence to  the  middle  west.  „.    ,  ,       ^  v,      •  i   ^--     i„ 

We  are  informed  indirectly  that  the  Middle  West  has  been  showing  relatively 
better  response  to  the  magazine  in  subscription  as  well  as  in  study  groups  than 
in  other  by  no  means  less  important  parts  of  the  country.  Before  we  critically 
evaluate  the  results  of  our  work  as  well  as  the  work  in  general,  we  would  like 
to  give  a  clear  conception  about  the  method  which  we  employed  along  with  the 
basic  considerations  upon  which  we  arrived  at  the  actual  determination  of  this 

method.  . ,     ^  „       ^  ^-u-  i..     ,       *.• 

It  is  our  opinion  that  ss  did  not  appear  accidentally  at  this  particular  time. 

The  fact  that  a  magazine  of  the  similar  nature  has  appeared  in  the  last  forty 
years  in  Germany,  Russia,  Switzerland,  and  Japan  while  not  in  the  Anglo-Saxon 
countries  especially  not  in  the  US  seems  to  us  to  reflect  a  basically  uneven  develop- 
ment the  recognition  of  which  is  fundamental  to  our  determination  of  the  method 
which  we  have  to  employ  in  regard  to  SS  in  the  US.  According  to  the  analysis 
of  the  Seventh  world  congress,  capitalism  has  entered  its  crisis  as  such.  For 
the  US  this  meant  that  the  very  basis  of  the  position  of  the  intellectual — while 
we  are  not  of  the  opinion  that  SS  is  only  or  even  primarily  directed  to  the  intel- 
lectuals, a  point  which  will  be  clarified  later  on,  we  think  that  it  is  best  to  develop 
our  analysis  from  that  specific  point  in  the  class  struggle  where  SS  originated, 
the  intellectual — the  economic  basis  for  the  opportunism  and  for  the  lack  of 
their  being  forced  to  develop  class  consciousness  in  the  form  of  revolutionary 
theory  has  withered  away  and  that  this  necessity  in  many  different  forms  was 
becoming  apparent.  Reviewed  in  this  way,  SS  is  not  only  a  manifestation  of 
the  grown  contradictions  in  the  American  capitalist  society  but  represents  in  it- 
self an  active  force  and  an  important  and  indispensable  weapon  within  the  strug- 
gle of  these  contradictions. 

More  concretely,  this  means  that  SS  as  a  manifestation  of  this  stage  of  the 
contradictions  is  to  be  not  only  a  platform  for  increasingly  class-conscious  in- 
tellectuals but  as  an  active  force  is  also  to  be  used  to  drive  the  members  of  those 
middle-class  strata  whose  very  basis  in  these  days  is  for  the  first  time  being 
generally  shattered  towards  such  an  analysis  as  put  forward  in  SS.  In  this 
way  we  arrive  at  an  exactly  contrary  result  to  that  which  the  editors  of  SS  seem 
to  have  arrived  at  by  advocating  a  conscious  neglect  of  study  groups. 

PART   ONE 

Regarding  the  foregoing  as  an  introduction,  we  shall  review  concretely  this 
problem  of  study  groups.  The  opinion  of  the  editors  as  communicated  to  us 
indirectly  (and  this  very  fact  is  in  itself  a  high  indictment  of  the  policy  of  the 
editors  to  neglect  practically  the  whole  of  the  middle  west — we  have  received  no 
communications  outside  of  a  few  purely  business  matters  which  in  themselves 
were  either  too  late  or  not  to  the  point),  we  understand  to  be  that  no  initiative 
shall  be  taken  by  the  editors  of  SS  to  encourage  the  formation  of  study  groups, 
although  when  they  already  exist  the  editors  are  willing  to  give  whatever  assist- 
ance those  study  groups  may  wish  to  receive.  In  the  light  of  the  foregoing,  this 
seems  to  us  to  be  a  declaration  of  bankruptcy.  Again  according  to  indirect  com- 
munication, three  main  reasons  are  given  for  your  stand  (and,  if  this  is  not 
correct,  we  should  very  much  like  to  be  corrected,  as  we  generally  would  ap- 
preciate very  much  to  be  regularly  informed  of  the  policy  formulated  by  the 
editorial  board.  In  fact,  we  feel  that  it  would  not  be  asking  too  much  for  the 
friends  in  the  Middle  West  to  be  consulted  on  such  matters). 

(1)  "Fear  of  setting  up  factional  opposition  between  Stalinists  and  Trotzkites." 
We  are  unable  to  comprehend  this  point.  We  would  appreciate  further  elucida- 
tion on  this  point. 

(2)  It  has  been  maintained  by  some  members  of  the  editorial  board  that  SS 
is  not  a  political  organization.  Right !  But  whoever  has  maintained  that  SS 
was  in  itself  to  be  conceived  of  as  a  political  organization?  We  have  outlined 
the  general  situation  of  today  above.  In  this  situation,  the  question  of  political 
organization  does  not  confront  all  parts  of  middle  classes  with  an  equal  imme- 


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diacy.  It  is  here  that  SS  has  to  fulfill  oue  of  its  most  important  functions  (may 
we  remind  ourselves  at  this  point  that  we  are  speaking  about  the  function  of  SS 
in  connection  with  the  position  of  the  intellectuals  and  not  in  many  other  respects 
in  which  it  is  most  certainly  not  of  no  small  importance,  as  is  indicated  by  the 
role  played  by  Unter  dem  Banner  des  Marxismus  for  the  theoretical  clarification 
within  the  party)  to  serve  as  an  effective  weapon  against  conflicting  and  contra- 
dictory bourgeois  theories  and  offering  at  the  same  time  to  these  groups  a  basis 
through  which  political  organisation  of  these  groups  (e;  g.,  the  League  against 
W.  and  F.,  Teachers'  and  other  professional  unions,  C.  P.)  will  only  be  possible. 
Again  more  concretely,  it  is  not  enough  to  sell  the  magazine  and  to  feel  self- 
satisfied  with  the  growing  sub.  list  which  is  pouring  in  because  of  the  general 
situation  and  in  spite  of  ourselves.  But  we  have  to  be  active  at  exactly  those 
weak  links  of  bourgeois  intelligentsia  where  SS  is  read ;  active  in  the  sense  that : 

1.  we  have  to  deepen  or  even  first  to  prepare  the  ground  for  an  under- 
standing of  the  Marxist  content  of  the  magazine.  Such  a  necessity  is  abun- 
dantly clear  from  the  last  issue.  (We  specifically  refer  to  the  articles  by 
McGill,  Struik,  and  Brameld.) 

2.  we  help  these  people  already  responsive  to  the  magazine  to  find  the 
"political"  contents  of  the  magazine. 

3.  we  make  a  conscious  effort  of  extending  this  field  of  responsiveness  by 
oragnizing  study  groups  around  specific  scientific  fields,  for  instance,  modern 
problems  in  physics,  or  relation  of  biology  to  political  science,  or  the  func- 
tion of  law  and  dictatorship,  etc.,  etc.,  in  each  case  bearing  in  mind  that  our 
function  is  to  expose  the  inherent  contradictions  in  the  bourgeois  approach 
and  to  lead  the  members  of  the  study  groups  to  realize  the  only  correct  ap- 
proach :  the  approach  of  dialectic  materialism.  The  initiating  spark  for  such 
study  groups  by  no  means  has  to  be  SS,  but  the  magazine  will  prove  to  be  an 
indispensable  tool  for  the  operation  of  such  study  groups  after  once  they 
are  formed. 

4.  it  is  obvious  that  these  study  groups  (we  are  speaking  of  only  those 
types  mentioned  under  1,  2,  and  3)  will  be  helped  materially  by  some  kind 
of  loose  central  organization — the  editorial  board  could  perhaps  perform 
this  function — by  (a)  stimulating  particular  study  groups,  and  (b)  by  ex- 
changing valuable  results  between  difi'erent  study  groups  as  regards  methods 
employed,  fields  discussed,  and  results  obtained. 

In  our  opinion  this  does  not  infringe  in  any  way  the  function  performed  by 
Workers'  Schools.     For  the  following  reasons : 

1.  As  far  as  intellectuals  are  concerned,  their  attending  of  classes  in  Work- 
ers' Schools  presupposes  a  definite  decision  on  their  part ;  not  only  many 
of  them  at  the  moment  are  not  willing  to  make  such  a  decision  due  to 
lack  of  conviction,  but  many  external  circumstances  impose  the  degree  of 
precaution  which  they  most  certainly  are  not  willing  to  forego  iefore  having 
attended  a  study  group.  Furthermore,  there  are  a  number  of  people  whose 
right  to  precaution  under  the  circumstances  given  would  certainly  not  be 
denied. 

2.  Study  groups  are  not  to  be  perceived  as  regular  courses  beginning  with 
the  reading  of  Manifesto  and  ending  with  the  application  of  the  Third  Vol- 
ume of  Capital  to  their  specific  fields.  Such  a  course  would  certainly  be- 
long to  Workers'  Schools.  Positive  contents  of  such  study  groups  have  been 
outlined  above. 

3.  There  should  be  no  reason  why  SS  study  groups  could  not  be  organized 
within  the  framework  of  Workers'  Schools  as  actually  done  in  the  W.  S. 
here  in  Chicago.  Such  a  group  would  serve  a  similar  function  as  those 
groups  mentioned  before  only  for  slightly  more  developed  intellectuals  who 
do  not  object  to  going  to  a  W.  S.  but  might  find  it  difficult  to  start  their  Marx- 
ist education  on  an  elementary  basis.  Secondly,  there  are  those  within 
such  a  group  who  are  far  more  easily  approached  via  their  own  fields.  The 
problem  we  have  to  keep  in  mind,  with  intellectuals  defined  as  middle-class 
people  suffering  to  a  higher  degree  from  ideologies,  is  always  to  make  them 
conscious  of  the  ideological  nature  of  their  thought  and  to  involve  them  by 
means  of  this  process  in  political  action.  If  these  intellectuals  would  be 
induced  to  join  and  come  into  W.  S.  (which  in  itself  is  highly  improbable), 
then  there  would  be  a  danger  that  because  of  the  above-mentioned  ideological 
nature  of  persons  concerned  the  immediate  teaching  of  the  principles  of 
Marxism  to  them  would  tend  to  strengthen  their  ideologies  although  chang- 
ing forms  (the  elevation  of  the  Marxist  concept  of  revolution  into  a  theory 


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of  revolution,  as  for  instance  Trotzkism).     That  danger  would  be  offset  by 

the  existence  of  SS  study  groups  within  the  framework  of  VTorkers'  Schools. 

If  these  considerations  prove  the  necessity  of  SS  study  groups  in  our  struggle 

for  the  winning  over  of  the  intellectuals,  then  this  by  no  means  exhausts  the 

function  of  SS  as  a  political  weapon. 

PAET  TWO 

In  a  letter  by  Stalin  to  the  editors  of  the  central  organ  of  the  YCL  of  the 
Soviet  Union  (unfortunately,  we  do  not  have  material  with  us  to  check),  sev- 
eral years  ago,  Stalin  stressed  the  great  importance  of  the  practical  work  per- 
formed in  the  Soviet  Union  since  the  revolution  as  something  to  be  extremely 
proud  of.  But  he  said  that  little  had  been  done  for  the  struggle  on  the  theo- 
retical front.  And  this  established  one  of  the  weakest  points  in  the  development 
of  Soviet  Union.  He  then  stressed  the  responsibility  of  the  Party  and  urged 
the  concentration  on  this  point.  We  think  that  a  lesson  could  be  taken  from 
this  letter  to  our  own  situation. 

We  feel  it  our  duty  to  ask  ourselves  the  question :  what  work  has  been  done 
in  analyzing  the  present  complex  situation  in  this  country?  Most  certainly  the 
analysis  of  the  Seventh  W^orld  Congress  has  given  the  basis  for  the  analysis 
which  was  concretized  and  applied  to  the  US  in  the  Ninth  convention.  These 
analyses,  however,  could  stress  because  of  their  very  nature  only  the  changes  in 
the  basic  structure  as  well  as  certain  specific  aspects  of  it.  The  manifestations  of 
these  changes  in,  for  instance,  bourgeois  economic  theory,  philosophy,  natural 
sciences,  etc.,  still  wait  for  appropriate  analyses  and,  even  more,  we  are  still 
waiting  (and  the  fact  that  we  are  waiting  is  in  itself  an  indictment)  for  an  ade- 
quate expression  of  these  changes  in  Marxist  theoretical  terms.  The  general  at- 
tempt made  in  this  direction  is  an  analysis  by  Varga  which  should  perform  for 
us  the  same  function  as  the  Seventh  World  Congress  to  the  Ninth  Party  Conven- 
tion. The  only  concretization,  however,  which  has  as  yet  appeared  (besides 
the  attempt  by  a  capitalist  economist  like  Bonn)  is  the  one  by  Corey  of  which 
we  have  as  yet  not  even  published  an  adequate  critique.  Comrade  Bittelman's 
critique  in  the  Communist  is  extremely  valuable  and  necessary,  but  it  treats  only 
one  aspect  of  the  book  and  does  not  develop  in  positive  terms  our  analysis  of  the 
total  situation.  Unter  dem  Banner  des  Marxismus  was  used  in  Germany  by  no 
means  only  by  those  groups  described  in  Part  One,  but  did  become  an  indispen- 
sable weapon  in  many  shop  and  street  units.  The  frequent  objection  against  an 
expressed  desire  to  see  SS  function  in  the  similar  way  is  that  our  working-class 
comrades  would  not  understand  and  even  more  would  not  be  interested  in  the 
problems  dealt  with  in  SS.  May  we  suggest  that  such  an  attitude  exhibits  an 
unwarranted  snobbishness  on  the  part  of  some  intellectual  comrades  who 
conclude  from  the  fact  that  the  highbrow  terminology  is  not  understood  that  the 
workers  are  not  interested  in  the  subject  matter.  However,  not  only  the  function 
of  U.  d.  B.  d.  M.  in  Germany  or  earlier  Iskra  in  Russia,  but  the  very  fact  that 
Lenin  found  it  necessary  to  devote  many  months  of  study  to  write  a  volume  on 
philosophy  "Empiriocriticism"  and  the  subsequent  extraordinarily  wide  circula- 
tion of  this  book  among  the  working  class  seem  to  us  to  prove  conclusively  that 
there  is  something  wrong  with  us  and  not  with  the  subject  matter.  The  con- 
clusion to  be  drawn  from  above  seems  to  us  to  be  twofold :  first,  that  the  editors 
have  to  keep  definitely  this  function  of  SS  in  mind,  and,  secondly,  that  our 
conscious  effort  should  not  go  only  in  the  direction  as  outlined  in  the  Part 
One  but  also  to  use  SS  in  the  direct  party  work  as  outlined  in  the  Part  Two. 

PAKT   THREE 

In  this  following  part  we  would  like  to  give  an  account  of  some  major  develop- 
ments in  Chicago  area  as  to  the  sub.  and  contributors  drive  and  the  SS  study 
groups  as  far  as  it  elucidates  important  problems  in  connection  with  which  we 
would  like  to  make  in  part  four  some  concrete  suggestions. 

A.  When  late  last  summer  the  appearance  of  SS  was  announced,  the  under- 
signed got  together  and  on  the  basis  of  considerations  similar  to  those  outlined 
above  we  made  the  following  plan  : 

We  had  access  to  the  student  groups  at  universities  ;  we  had  a  very  few  contacts 
with  the  faculty;  in  the  city  we  had  a  contact  with  the  social  worker  groups  and 
teachers'  organizations.  Our  first  objective  was  to  have  one  reliable  agent  for 
each  one  of  these  groups  and  one  central  agent  to  coordinate  the  work  of  those 
agents  and  to  maintain  the  contact  with  Cambridge  and  New  York.    The  function 


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of  these  agents  was  definitely  determined.  With  the  help  of  propaganda  material, 
they  had  to  cover  those  groups  of  which  they  were  chosen  as  representatives  for 
sub.  as  well  as  contributions,  having  at  the  same  time  in  mind  the  extension  of 
those  groups  to  which  they  already  had  access  as  well  as  the  forming  of  study 
groups  among  those  who  showed  more  than  ordinary  interest  in  the  objective  of 
the  magazine.  It  might  be  emphasized  at  this  point  that  this  plan  was  by  no 
means  a  purely  organizational  application  of  a  theoretically  perceived  outline,  but 
that  many  and  lengthy  discussions  were  held,  not  only  with  the  agents,  but  with 
other  people  as  well  in  order  to  make  as  clear  as  possible  that  the  function  was 
not  purely  that  of  a  sub.  agent  but  in  itself  a  fight  on  the  theoretical  front. 

As  a  further  device  for  distribution,  we  first  contacted  the  three  Chicago 
Workers  bookstores  and  discussed  with  them  on  the  sale  of  this  magazine  and 
made  arrangements  for  the  prominent  display  of  posters  and  propaganda  ma- 
terials. Further  arrangements  were  made  to  use  the  regular  channels  of  dis- 
tribution of  Marxian  literatures  to  the  bourgeois  bookstores.  Direct  contact  was 
establishecL  with  the  managers  of  the  two  bourgeois  bookstores  on  the  U.  of  C. 
(;ampus.  Although  they  agreed  to  contact  with  N.  Y.  directly,  we  supplied  several 
copies  to  meet  the  immediate  demand.  In  addition  to  this  regular  method  of 
distribution,  one  hundred  copies  of  the  first  issue  were  obtained  by  the  central 
agent  and  distributed  to  those  agents  and  those  interested  persons  who  before 
the  actual  appearance  of  the  first  issue  already  started  the  sub.  drive  and  now 
followed  up  their  contacts  with  actual  copies. 

If  these  were  the  methods  which  we  had  planned,  the  following  are  the  diffi- 
culties which  we  have  encountered.  As  far  as  the  difficulties  with  the  distribution 
of  the  magazine  were  concerned,  the  outstanding  one  was  response  resulting  (a) 
from  the  nature  of  the  magazine,  and  (b)  from  the  character  of  the  first  issue. 
The  formei",  being  of  general  nature,  has  been  dealt  with  above  and  was  to  be 
expected,  with  one  exception :  the  reception  of  the  magazine  among  certain  white 
collar  sections  of  the  party.  It  necessitated  considerable — to  convince  the  com- 
rades in  the  white-collar  faction  of  the  necessity  of  spending  time  and  energy  for 
the  distribution  and  utilization  of  SS  as  a  political  weapon.  Arguments  used  by 
us  were  those  used  in  the  Parts  One  and  Two,  with  the  result  that  the  objection 
has  been  largely  overcome.  As  to  the  latter  (b),  objections  of  varied  types  have 
been  encountered : 

(1)  to  take  typical  objection  raised  by  people  who  more  or  less  came  for 
he  first  time  into  contact  with  the  Marxian  scientific  literature,  we  have  en- 
countered the  criticism  that  the  articles  seem  to  approach  the  problem  with 
an  a  priori  thesis  and  manipulate  the  subject  matter  to  fit  thi«  a  priori  thesis. 
Although  this  common  bourgeois  objection  has  been  met  by  Marx  in  his 
explanation  of  his  method  when  dealing  with  his  critics  in  the  postscript  to 
the  second  edition  of  Capital,  we  still  might  profitably  raise  the  question 
whether  the  actual  methods  used  in  the  articles  of  the  first  issue  are  Maxian 
dialectics,  or  whether  they  are  not,  as  it  seems  to  us,  a  mechanical  use  of 
dialetic  terms.  (Cf.,  somewhat  classical  example  of  Struik's  article.)  This 
is  not  the  place  to  go  into  specific  criticisms  of  different  articles. 

(2)  The  second  objection  which  has  been  brought  to  our  attention  is  the 
lack  of  an  observable  editorial  policy  in  the  sense  that  not  sufficient  attention 
has  been  paid  to  the  weighing  of  relative  importance  of  different  topics  which 
might  be  treated.  We  assume,  however,  that  editors  were  aware  that  such 
objection  might  be  raised,  the  objection  traceable  to  difficulties  largely  in- 
herent in  the  situation. 

If  we  regard  these  as  outstanding  examples  of  difficulties  which  we  encountered, 
discounting  those  difficulties  which  of  course  arise  constantly  because  of  the  very 
rature  of  the  magazine  with  which  we  dealt  above,  there  still  remains  the  possi- 
bility of  a  difficulty  arising  out  of  the  appearance  of  The  Marxist  Quarterly.  The 
tactics  employed  by  the  MQ  of  avoiding  any  clear-cut  distinction  between  the  two 
magazines  seems  to  indicate  to  us  a  difficulty  as  well  as  a  hope.  A  difficulty  in 
making  clear  the  distinction  at  this  moment  to  our  readers.  A  hope  because' we 
think  that  the  absence  of  a  clear  Trotzkyite  line  will  only  put  the  actual  burden 
of  justifying  the  existence  of  two  journals  upon  those  who  elsewhere  justify  the 
existence  by  being  an  opposition  to  us.  Secondly,  with  the  absence  of  a  clear 
editorial  policy  of  either  being  Lovestoneites  or  Trozkyites,  it  tends  to  bring  the 
opposing  forces  within  this  group  to  so  much  the  more  rapid  disruptive  conflict. 

Let  us  consider  now  some  of  the  shortcomings  on  our  own  part,  both  in  general 
and  specifically  in  Chicago. 

First,  we  in  Chicago  failed  to  anticipate  the  actual  extent  of  the  demand  for 
the  magazine.    Concretely  this  was  seen  in  (a)  our  failure  to  realize  the  actual 


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possibilities  as  quickly  as  we  might  have;  (&)  our  failure  to  utilize  our  sym- 
pathizers to  satisfy  this  active  demand  ;  and  (c)  the  underestimation  of  workers 
bookshops  in  ordering  their  stocks. 

Furthermore  we  did  not  succeed  always  in  preparing  our  agents  to  the  extent 
we  had  planned  about  the  promotion  of  SS  not  only  as  a  source  of  information 
but  also  as  a  political  weapon. 

We  did  not  succeed  as  intended  to  collect  donations  for  SS  to  an  adequate  ex- 
tent. The  reason  for  that,  besides  the  lack  of  the  realization  of  its  necessity,  is 
that  the  groups  we  contacted  first  were  professionals  whose  resources  were  quite 
heavily  drawn  upon  by  various  professional  organizations  or  students,  and  it  is 
only  now  that  we,  especially  study  groups,  begin  to  penetrate  into  groups  which 
might  be  effectively  used  for  this  purpose. 

As  to  the  question  of  contributions  to  the  magazine,  we  are  slowly  beginning 
to  see  the  first  results  of  our  strenuous  advocating  of  the  necessity  for  contribu- 
tions among  the  sympathizers  of  SS ;  this,  however,  does  not  mean  that  printable 
articles  will  be  available  in  the  near  future.  But  the  foundation  seems  to  be  laid. 
As  regards  contributions  by  recognized  scientists,  we  have  not  yet  succeeded  in 
obtaining  any.  Certain  connections  have  been  made,  for  instance  in  the  U.  of 
Minnesota,  but  it  will  take  some  more  time  before  common  platform  will  be 
reached  to  such  people  which  will  make  contributions  valuable  to  us.  Here 
again,  SS  study  groups  have  proved  indispensable.  As  communicated  to  you 
in  the  earlier  date,  many  foreign  possible  contributors  have  been  contacted. 
Most  of  them  will  have  contacted  you  directly.  As  far  as  we,  the  imdersigned, 
are  concerned,  (1)  Lowe  has  written  an  article  on  economics  which  has  not  j^et 
been  returned  to  him  since  the  beginning  of  August.  In  view  of  the  timeliness 
of  the  article,  we  consider  it  very  unfortunate  that  such  negligence  has  occurred ; 

(2)  K.  H.  N.  intended  and  still  intends  to  write  an  article  on  the  qualitative 
changes  which  have  taken  place  in  the  trade-union  structure  since  the  great 
depression.  Although  the  article  has  not  been  written  because  of  the  too  heavy 
teaching  role  during  the  last  semester,  N.  has  never  heard  from  the  editors 
whether  such  an  article  is  actually  in  line  with  their  policy  or  not.  As  regards 
the  book  review,  N.  had  been  asked  by  Sam  Sillen  whether  he  would  be  willing  to 
write  a  review  of  Manheim's  Ideology  and  Utopia,  and  consented,  but  never  re- 
ceived a  copy  of  the  book.  As  yet,  N.  has  not  been  asked  to  write  any  other 
review,  although  he  has  made  several  suggestions  especially  in  the  direction  of 
treating  economic  subjects  more  extensively. 

In  regard  to  the  general  shortcomings,  the  last  point  made  emphasizes  already 
the  lack  of  adequate  communication  between  the  middle  west  and  the  editors. 
N.  has,  for  instance,  written  several  letters  to  New  York  as  well  as  to  Cambridge ; 
and  except  for  the  promises  for  the  future,  he  has  never  received  an  adequate 
reply.  The  same  is  true  as  to  the  technical  organization.  As  a  good  example 
-  might  serve  the  letter  of  the  central  distributing  agency  for  the  Workers  book- 
store to  N.  Y.  requesting  information  about  the  discount  and  other  business 
matters.  But  an  answer  was  not  received  before  the  first  issue  came  out.  Instead 
they  received  150  copies  with  no  information  as  to  the  terms  on  which  they  were 
to  handle.  This  was  particularly  serious  as  they  had  already  planned  to  order 
500  copies  of  the  first  issue  upon  receipt  of  the  answer  to  their  letter  on  business 
details.  These  examples  could  be  multiplied.  N.  gave  the  addresses  of  several 
Important  contacts  at  one  time,  and  at  another  time  he  sent  subscriptions  for 
several  people  and  ordered  several  copies  for  himself.  He  never  received  an 
answer  nor  copies.  Aside  from  these  particular  instances,  the  matter  of  general 
organization  and  planning  comes  up.  When  we  had  appointed  Miss  K.  as  the 
central  agent  in  Chicago  area,  we  had  suggested  that  she  should  make  reports 
of  her  work  to  the  editors.  Lowe  whom  we  had  asked  to  arrange  for  this  got 
into  contact  with  the  managing  editor  but  no  provision  was  made.  In  conse- 
quence, no  report  was  made.  According  to  our  information,  the  same  holds 
true  for  the  relation  between  Madison,  Wis.,  and  NY.  This  is  the  matter  defi- 
nitely to  be  remedied,  and  as  it  seems  to  us,  not  only  for  the  Middle  West  but  for 
all  places  where  SS  is  being  distributed. 

When  N.  was  in  NY  last  summer,  he  talked  with  McGill  about  several  points, 
among  them  the  necessity  for  translations  of  classical  writings  of  Marx,  Engels, 
Lenin,  and  others.  Concrete  suggestions  were  made.  Thus,  Natur  and  Dialek- 
tik,  parts  of  Deutsche  Ideologie,  of  Theorien  uber  den  Mehrwert,  etc.  Not  only 
did  nothing  come  out  of  it,  but  The  Marxist  Quarterly  performed  this  task  which 
we  neglected. 

We  understand  that  it  is  the  policy  of  the  editors  not  to  review  any  foreign 
books.    We  sincerely  hope  that  this  is  misunderstanding.    Although  due  space 


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should  be  allotted  to  American  publications,  the  very  distinction  between  books 
which  appeared  outside  of  US  and  those  within  the  present  boundaries  of  US 
seems  to  us  a  fallacious  one.  To  us,  there  seems  to  be  only  one  distinction  pos- 
sible; that  of  relevant,  less  relevant,  and  irrelevant  books,  relevancy  being  de- 
termined by  the  problems  which  we  as  Marxists  face  in  a  specific  situation,  this 
in  turn  to  be  evaluated  in  the  editorial  policy. 

B.  Study  groups : 

The  general  situation  and  our  policy  germane  thereto  have  been  described 
above.  In  accordance  with  that  policy,  we  allotted  our  forces  to  penetrate  into 
the  following  channels : 

Marxism  as  a  science  was  of  course  studied  at  several  points  outside  the 
Workers  School  before  SS  appeared.  During  the  last  year,  students  at  the 
University  had  tried  to  organize  Marxist  Study  Clubs  sponsored  by  YCL.  But 
this  did  not  succeed  very  well  because  the  clubs  were  regarded  primarily  as  re- 
cruiting fields  for  YCL.  When  SS  appeared,  it  was  possible  to  use  it  as  a  means 
to  revive  the  interest  in  the  study  of  Marxism.  We  were  fortunate  enough  to 
find  a  responsible  person  to  devote  more  or  less  his  whole  time  to  this  purpose. 
In  close  contact  with  the  central  agent,  he  went  out  to  find  responsible  persons 
in  the  different  departments  on  the  campus  who  in  turn  would  be  able  to  mo- 
bilize all  the  potential  interests  in  Marxism  in  these  specific  departments.  In 
this  way,  we  reached  far  beyond  the  previous  scope  of  the  Marxist  study  clubs. 
And  by"  attacking  the  problem  on  the  ground  of  their  special  field  of  interest, 
we  succeeded  in  involving  persons  who  heretofore  had  not  been  cognizant  of 
the  bearing  which  the  Marxian  analysis  has  on  their  accustomed  ways  of  and 
materials  for  thinking.  It  has  been  possible  already  to  involve  some  of  those 
persons  in  direct  action  which  after  all  is  the  major  objective.  Such  groups  are 
functioning  or  ready  to  function  in  economics,  social  sciences,  humanities,  and 
physics. 

In  the  faculty  of  U.  of  C.  we  find  a  replica  of  the  general  situation  outlined 
In  the  previous  parts ;  that  is,  the  deepening  schism  or  the  far  greater  prepared- 
ness to  study  Marxism  on  the  one  side  and  reaction  on  the  other.  The  first 
actual  study  group  among  the  faculty  has  been  established  and  will  begin  its 
works  in  the  coming  week. 

In  Northwestern  U.,  the  situation  is  somewhat  different.  Situated  in  the  most 
reactionary  suburb  of  Chicago,  a  stronghold  of  the  Liberty  League,  with  a 
strong  church  background  of  the  University  itself,  the  faculty  tends  to  be  still 
more  conservative  than  the  one  of  Chicago  University.  The  few  contacts  we 
had  in  the  faculty  of  Northwestern,  therefore,  we  brought  together  with  an- 
other independent  group  of  teachers  and  other  intellectuals  in  that  neighbor- 
hood, who  had  formed  already  a  study  circle  for  which  they  employed  regularly 
a  teacher  from  the  Workers  School. 

Still  another  difficulty  was  that  we  were  able  to  contact  the  faculty  only 
from  the  outside  as  we  had  no  one  trustworthy  and  capable  enough  on  the  campus 
to  act  as  a  leader.  The  purpose  and  meaning  of  SS  was  then  fully  discussed 
with  the  already  established  group  and  they  have  been  using  the  magazine  effec- 
tively in  their  group.  On  the  Northwestern  Down  Town  Campus  (Med.  School, 
Law  School,  etc. )  we  have  as  yet  only  one  person  who  is  distributing  the  Magazine 
and  looking  for  other  persons  interested  in  our  aims  with  the  view  of  getting 
subs  as  well  as  forming  a  study  group  before  long. 

The  other  colleges  and  universities  in  Chicago  have  not  yet  been  covered 
with  such  a  concentrated  effort.  This  is  mainly  due  to  the  fact  that  we  had 
insufficient  direct  contacts  with  them,  and  we  might  add  here  that  we  would 
appreciate  if  you  would  communicate  to  us  any  addresses  of  persons  who  might 
serve  such  a  purpose.  However,  this  does  not  mean  that  nothing  was  done  in 
that  direction.  The  party  faction  of  the  teachers,  with  whom  we  had  long 
and  thorough  discussions,  had  been  largely  responsible  for  the  above-mentioned 
study  group.  Besides  that  they  had  established  another  Marxist  study  group 
in  the  city  comprised  of  about  thirty-five  members  also  under  the  direction  of 
a  teacher  from  the  workers  school.  Into  this  latter  study  group  S.  and  S. 
has  been  introduced  and  is  being  used.  Beyond  that,  however,  the  faction 
works  as  an  agent  for  us  and  we  hope  that  it  will  soon  be  possible  to  have  more 
study  groups  and  extend  the  field  of  influence  of  SS. 

Similarly  we  proceeded  with  the  social  workers.  The  faction  was  here  to 
our  starting  point,  through  which  we  brought  S  &  S  into  the  work  of  the  units 
as  well  as  contacted  through  them  outside  persons.  One  S  &  S  study  ^roup 
imder  the  leadership  of  two  able  comrades  was  formed  here  and  has  been 
meeting  weekly  since  September.     It  is  with  this  group  that  we  gained  our 


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most  valuable  experience.  We  found  that  such  SS  study  circles  must  be  very 
carefully  organized  on  an  extremely  flexible  basis.  The  group  which  came  to- 
gether here  was  of  a  relatively  heterogeneous  character.  We  found  that  sev- 
eral members  of  the  group  were  soon  able  to  attend  directly  the  courses  in  the 
workers  school,  a  fact  which  was  not  soon  enough  realized  but  meanwhile  reme- 
died. Similarly  we  found  that  topics  of  too  general  or  "fundamental"  a  nature 
tended  to  weaken  the  interest  of  certain  members,  nothing  to  say  about  the 
fact  that  they  tended  to  repeat  only  what  more  effectively  could  have  been 
done  by  the  workers'  school.  In  positive  terms,  this  is  being  remedied  by  divid- 
ing the  group  as  far  as  possible  into  definite  fields  of  professional  interest  or, 
where  this  is  not  possible,  by  clearly  stating  the  different  fields  in  advance, 
pointing  out  the  problems  involved  and  taking  up  one  field  after  the  other. 

As  a  last  instance  of  forming  SS  study  groups  we  would  like  to  discuss  briefly 
the  formation  of  such  a  group  within  the  framework  of  the  workers'  school. 
Our  general  ideas  about  this  have  been  given  above.  The  course  which  is 
ofllcially  announced  in  the  bulletin  of  the  workers'  school  was  thoroughly  dis- 
cussed with  the  friend  who  is  going  to  lead  it.  The  participants  consist  of 
psychiatrists,  physiologists,  a  psychologist,  a  dentist,  lawyers,  a  biologist,  a 
journalist,  an  artist,  and  a  philosopher  (we  are  well  aware  of  the  fact  that 
these  seem  to  be  strange  bedfellows).  It  is  obvious  that,  to  say  the  least,  such 
a  heterogeneous  group  offers  very  diflicult  problems.  As  these  people,  how- 
ever, by  consenting  to  come  to  the  workers'  school,  had  already  made  the  defi- 
nite decision  which  that  implies,  and  as  we  had  to  find  a  common  working  basis, 
we  suggested  that  they  should  start  with  a  more  fundamental  though  general 
discussion  on  dialectics  based  perhaps  on  the  short  article  by  Bukharin  in  Marx- 
ism and  Modern  Thought.  To  support  this,  we  compiled  an  outside  reading 
list.  This  discussion  was  to  go  over  about  five  to  six  evenings ;  after  this  the 
main  fields  of  interest  were  to  be  selected  and  if  possible  the  members  were 
to  be  divided  into  such  interest  groups  with  the  objective  of  studying  such 
fields  more  specifically ;  as  for  instance,  biology  and  Marxian  method,  the  sci- 
ence of  law  of  Marxism,  etc.  In  order  to  avoid  too  vague  a  treatment,  specific 
concrete  problems  within  those  fields  were  formulated  and  reading  lists  for 
each  of  the  fields  compiled.  As  the  members  of  this  group  consist  of  people 
who  speak  different  languages,  the  untranslated  writings  of  Marx,  Engels,  and 
Lenin,  as  well  as  modern  Russian  publications  were  included.  The  leader  of 
the  group  is  so  optimistic  as  to  hope  that  they  will  get  several  papers  written 
which  he  intends  to  collect  and  make  available  not  only  to  other  study  groups 
here  but  to  send  to  you  with  the  hope  that  other  groups  might  do  the  same ;  and 
that  material  thus  collected  might  be  made  mutually  available  through  you. 

In  Minneapolis  we  got  a  foothold  at  the  University  of  Minnesota  where  a 
group  of  a  few  economic  historians,  political  scientists,  and  a  philosopher  was 
meeting  with  N.  fairly  regularly.  The  discussion  revolved  mainly  around  an 
interpretation  of  history  coupled,  of  course,  with  an  understanding  of  present 
events.  Fairly  good  headway  has  been  made.  There  is  a  possibility  that  the 
group  will  have  to  be  reorganized  because  two  of  the  members  will  go  to 
Washington,  DC,  after  Christmas. 

We  have  worked  in  close  contact  with  Madison,  Wisconsin,  and  N.  was  there 
only  a  few  weeks  ago  and  found  that  the  friend  in  charge  of  S&S  there,  though 
extremly  capable,  encounters  certain  difficulties  inherent  in  the  situation  in 
Madison.  We  suggest,  however,  that  you  might  get  directly  in  touch  with 
Mr.  John  Cookson,  701  West  Johnson  Street,  c/o  Herman  Ramras,  Madison, 
Wisconsin. 

We  conclude  by  saying  that  we  would  appreciate  your  reactions  to  this  formu- 
lation of  our  experience  in  regard  to  study  groups  and  that  we  would  like  to 
hear  from  you  equally  elaborately  about  the  experiences  in  this  respect  in 
other  places. 

PAET  FOITE 

Concrete  suggestions 

1.  Resulting  from  the  consideration  put  forth  in  the  above  memorandum,  we 
propose  that  the  editorial  policy  should  exhibit  a  conscious  effort  to  make  the 
magazine  into  a  tool  of  our  present-day  struggle  on  the  theoretical  front  rather 
than  an  encyclopaedic  compedium  of  various  learned  treatments  of  scientific 
problems.  This  implies  that  the  articles  to  be  printed  shall  be  selected  from  a 
point  of  view  determined  by  an  analysis  of  the  problems  confronting  us  at  that 
moment. 

2.  Resulting  from  the  criticisms  given  in  the  memorandum  on  the  editorial 
policy  concerning  study  groups,  we  propose  a  reconsideration  of  this  policy 

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and  a  change  in  the  direction  which  experiences  in  the  Middle  West  point  to. 

3.  As  mentioned  before,  we  propose  that  serious  consideration  should  be 
given  to  the  translation  of  outstanding  basic  writings  of  Marxist  leaders. 

4.  In^  regard  to  the  book  review  section  of  the  magazine,  we  propose  recon- 
sideration of  the  editorial  policy,  the  only  criterion  possible  to  be  the  relevancy 
of  the  books  under  consideration,  this  relevancy  in  turn  being  determined  by  the 
same  analysis  which  determines  the  selection  of  articles  as  outlined  under  1. 

5.  We  feel  strongly  that  the  Mid-West  and  if  possible  the  Far  West  should  be 
actively  represented  on  the  editorial  board.  The  desirability  of  this  has  been 
acknowledged  frequently  for  many  reasons : 

(a)  Avoidance  of  the  top-heaviness  of  the  East 

(b)  The  necessity  of  a  conscious  building  of  leadership  as  opposed  to  a 
reliance  on  spontaneity — c.  f .,  Lenin  What's  To  Be  Done 

(c)  The  necessity  for  the  recognition  of  the  actual  potentialities  for  use 
of  S.  «&  S.  as  a  political  weapon  also  west  of  the  Alleghenys 

(d)  The  desirability  of  a  distribution  of  duties  over  as  large  an  area  as 
possible 

(e)  The  necessity  of  arriving  at  an  adequate  analysis  of  the  situation  in 
order  to  determine  the  editorial  policy  of  the  magazine  seems  to  us  to  de- 
mand an  adequate  representation  of  as  many  districts  as  possible  on  the 
editorial  board.  As  far  as  the  representation  ofthe  Mid- West  is  concerned, 
friend  Lowe  will  personally  make  concrete  suggestions. 

6.  We  propose  a  reconsideration  of  our  understanding  of  the  general  function 
of  an  agent.  Practically,  we  propose  dismissal  of  the  concept  of  agents  as  mere 
subscription  agents.  The  drive  for  subscriptions  cannot  and  should  not  be  sepa- 
rated from  the  agents'  political  and  educational  function. 

Special  attention  should  be  given  to  the  problem  of  getting  more  of  such 
agents  and  of  extending  the  territory  covered  with  the  help  of  such  agents. 

7.  "A  guide  to  Marxist  Studies."  Friend  Lowe  communicated  to  us  the  outline 
for  the  proposed  guide  to  Marxist  studies.  May  we  express  our  surprise  that 
no  one  in  the  Mid- West  ever  heard  of  this  enterprise  before  it  was  launched.  In 
the  outline  before  us  there  seem  to  us  to  be  several  contradictions.  It  is  stated 
that  "an  exhaustive  Marxist  bibliography  for  intensive  research  in  specialized 
fields  would  prove  extremely  useful,"  but  it  is  not  even  indicated  why  such  a 
bibliography  could  not  be  compiled  and  why  only  an  introductory  guide  is  at- 
tempted to  be  compiled.  We  infer  that  the  difficulty  for  an  exhaustive  Marxist 
bibliography  lies  in  the  fact  that  such  an  overwhelming  part  of  the  Marxist 
literature  has  not  yet  been  translated.  This,  however,  seems  to  us  to  be  not 
necessarily  a  valid  objection,  especially  if  we  confront  the  attempted  bibliography 
with  the  professed,  and  under  the  heading  "Audience,"  enumerated  aims. 

It  seems  to  us  meaningless  to  say  that  the  guide  should  be  neither  "exhaustive" 
nor  "for  the  advanced  student  as  such"  when  we  continue  the  sentence  that  it  is 
intended  "for  the  ordinary  intelligent  student  of  socialism."  We  cannot  quite 
understand  what  kind  of  students  the  composer  of  this  outline  had  in  mind 
when  he  speaks  about  the  use  of  such  an  outline  for  "college  courses  which  bear 
on  the  various  aspects  of  socialism" ;  we  understand  still  less  when  he  speaks 
about  "the  student  already  possessing  some  knowledge  of  socialism  who  wishes 
to  make  a  study  of  fields  not  yet  investigated" ;  and  we  do  not  understand  at  all 
the  snobbishness  with  which  he  speaks  about  the  "workers  who  vdsh  to  deepen 
their  knowledge  of  socialism." 

Needless  to  say,  there  is  a  flagrant  contradiction  between  the  initial  modesty  as 
regards  the  scope  of  the  outline  and  the  actually  proposed  contents  as  enu- 
merated on  the  next  page.  Under  the  heading  "Scope,"  it  is  written  that  "the 
projected  guide  will  serve  to  indicate  the  hest  exposition  of  Mm-xism  and  its 
implications  for  the  special  branches  of  knowledge."  If  this  is  to  indicate  the 
red  thread  which  is  supposed  to  run  through  the  outline,  we  fail  entirely  and 
absolutely  to  see  where  the  composer  is  to  get  an  "estimated  number  of  two 
hundred  items"  of  the  "bare  minimum  of  basic  works,  specifically  Marxist  works" 
of  the  history  of  the  United  States.  If  such  a  thing  would  be  possible,  we  would 
see  still  less  how  this  red  thread  could  be  carried  out  under  the  heading  "Politi- 
cal Theory."  The  remarks  attached  to  this  heading  indicate  already  that  the 
composer  of  this  table  of  contents  thought  it  impossible  to  collect  sufficient 
Marxist  studies  in  the  English  language  in  this  field  when  he  speaks  about 
"intimations  of  socialist  theory  in  American  political  theory."  In  this  way 
every  one  of  the  different  paragraphs  of  the  table  of  contents  could  be  analyzed  ; 
the  result  would  remain  the  same. 


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As  the  outline  in  the  proposed  form  seems  to  us  for  these  reasons  not  only  not 
to  serve  the  purpose  put  forward  but  to  add  positively  to  the  undoubtedly  exist- 
ing confusion,  and 

As  on  the  other  side  we  are  convinced  with  you  that  a  bibliographical  guide  to 
studies  of  Marxism  is  highly  desirable  and  necessary, 

AVe  propose  that : 

(a)  An  exhaustive  bibliography  should  be  compiled  of  all  Marxist  literatures, 
as  far  as  we  have  knowledge  of  it,  regardless  in  which  language  it  appeared. 

(b)  This  bibliography  should  be  compiled,  of  course,  under  certain  headings. 
However,  we  propose  that  in  the  enumeration  of  these  headings  due  modesty 
should  be  applied. 

(c)  A  very  valuable  bibliography  up  to  1925  or  '26  has  been  compiled  and 
published  in  the  first  volume  of  the  Marx-Engels  Archiv.  If  the  bibliography 
would  be  brought  up  to  date,  it  would  be  augmented  by  a  selection  of  represent- 
ative Russian  publications  (extremely  necessary!)  and  if  then  this  bibliography 
would  be  furnished  with  an  introduction  and  the  necessary  elucidations  of  the 
enumerated  items  as  well,  we  think  that  such  a  work  would  not  only  be  extremely 
useful  but  fill  a  gap  which  has  been  felt  for  a  long  time. 

(d)  In  order  to  make  this  bibliography  also  useful  and  accessible  for  people 
who  are  mainly  interested  in  the  more  basic  and  fundamental  Marxist  works  we 
propose  that  such  works  should  be  printed  in  bold  face. 

(e)  As  regards  this  reference  to  the  treatment  of  the  history  of  US,  we  do 
not  think  that  bourgeois  works  "easily  adapted  to  Marxits  use"  should  be  in- 
cluded especially  if  their  number  is  estimated  somewhere  around  two  hundred. 
Bibliographies  of  the  US  history  are  easily  available  in  every  bourgeois  library. 
It  does  not  need,  we  hope,  to  be  emphasized  that  such  a  principle  is  not  to  be 
used  with  absolute  rigidity.  Works  like  that  of  Charles  Beard,  if  given  ade- 
quate annotations,  may  very  well  serve  our  purpose. 

(f )  Especial  care  should  be  given  to  the  selection  as  to  the  persons  who  are  to 
be  entrusted  with  the  compilation  of  the  different  parts  of  this  bibl.  We  cannot 
see  for  instance  that  Laski  would  be  able  to  give  an  adequate  bibl.  of  the  Marxist 
interpretation  of  law.  The  man  who  in  our  opinion  should  come  in  this  connec- 
tion into  our  mind  would  be  Pashkhanis  of  the  Red  Academy. 

However,  if  there  should  be,  because  of  a  lack  of  forces  available,  choice  to  be 
made  between  such  a  bibliography  and  translations  of  basic  Marxist  works  into 
English,  we  strongly  advocate  that  the  latter  be  given  preference.  We  feel  that 
the  need  for  the  translation  cannot  be  emphasized  too  much. 

8.  It  would  go  definitely  too  far  to  give  within  the  framework  of  this  memo- 
randum an  exhaustive  criticism  of  all  the  articles  of  the  first  issue.  We  shall 
content  ourselves  with  enumerating  a  few  : 

(a)  As  regards  McGill's  article,  we  understand  that  the  article  in  the  first 
issue  is  only  the  first  installment.  This  however  is  nowhere  indicated.  We  there- 
fore take  the  article  as  a  whole.  The  critical  analysis  of  logical  positivism  as 
given  by  McGill  seems  to  us  to  be  a  mere  critique  within  the  framework  of  this 
bourgeois  philosophical  system,  to  which  Marxian  terms  are  only  attached.  In 
other  words,  in  our  opinion  no  visible  attempt  is  made  to  understand  logical 
positivism  as  an  outgrowth  of  the  specific  historical  situation  of  today  and  to 
determine  its  specific  place  in  the  situation.  The  omission  of  this  analysis  is 
clearly  refiected  in  the  results  attained  at  the  end  of  the  article.  It  is  stated 
there  that  logical  positivism  "is  not  at  present  ...  a  reactionary  philosophy,  "and 
this  conclusion  is  proved  by  the  stand  the  logical  positivists  took  at  the  interna- 
tional congress  at  Pragi:e.  Surprisingly  enough,  a  few  lines  later,  this  position 
is  explained  by  the  observation  "that  the  students  of  logical  positivism  at  the 
universities  of  Vienna,  Prague,  Warsaw,  etc.,  are  typically  poor  and  without 
prospect,  and  while  their  disinterested  (  !  !  !  K.  H.  N.)  devotion  to  the  most 
abstract  and  impractical  studies  resembles  somewhat  the  zeal  of  chess  players, 
and  also  expresses  surrepetitiously  a  revolt  against  the  pompous  idealism  of  the 
tyrannies  which  surround  and  threaten  them,  since,  in  terms  of  their  analysis, 
this  idealism  is  literally  nonsense."  Although  this  is  quoted  from  Earnest  Nagel, 
McGill  arrives  at  the  conclusion  that  "log.  pos.  is  thus  a  literary  weapon  against 
the  favorite  philosophies  of  the  fascists."  We  do  not  agree  with  the  deduction 
given.  The  fact  that  the  class  situation  of  the  student  in  Vienna,  etc.  forces 
them  to  stand  against  fascism  does  not  elevate  log.  pos.  into  a  weapon  against 
fascism.  Furthermore,  the  fact  that  there  are  contradictions  and  even  violent 
ones  between  different  philosophies  does  not  make  the  one  whose  believers  be- 
cause of  a  specific  class  situation  are  forced  temporarily  to  take  a  stand  against 
fascism  into  a  weapon  against  fascism.    On  the  contrary,  we  would  like  to  sug- 


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gest  that  such  a  philosophy,  although  involved  in  such  a  struggle  vphich  reminds 
us  very  much  of  the  description  of  the  fratricidal  behavior  of  the  capitalists  in 
the  first  volume  of  Capital,  must  serve  in  the  end  for  its  believers  as  an  actual 
veil  against  the  recognition  of  their  class  situation  which  alone  would  enable 
them  to  fight  fascism  effectively.  This  is  by  no  means  an  advocation  of  the  left- 
ist deviation  as  we  most  heartily  would  agree  to  a  united  front,  though  tempo- 
rary, with  the  logical  positivists  on  specific  issues.  The  patting  of  logical  posi- 
tivists  on  the  back  (page  79,  beginning  of  last  paragraph)  is  not  only  super- 
fiuous.  No,  their  experimentalism  is  not  "even  acceptable  if  it  had  not  cut 
away  the  material  basis  of  experiment"  because  the  former  is  not  Logical 
Positivism  without  the  latter.  And  thus  the  argument  could  be  carried  on. 
Tc  conclude,  Logical  Positivism  seems  to  us  to  be  as  much  the  twin 
brother  of  Pareto  and  similar  philosophers  as  this  was  true  for  the  semi-revolu- 
tionary phraseology  of  Braunthal  and  the  other  apologists  of  the  social  democ- 
racy in  Germany  which  Stalin  so  adequately  characterized  as  twin  brothers  of 
capitalism.  We  cannot  see  the  validity  of  a  reasoning  that  "if  history  and  eco- 
nomic considerations  are  allowed  their  proper  place,  this  trend  .  .  .  will  cumu- 
late in  dialectic  materialism."  "If"  seems  to  indicate  that  we  have  forgotten  the 
class  roots  and  resulting  from  that,  the  functions  of  such  ideology. 

(b)  As  regards  the  Struik  article.  We  understand  by  dialectics  a  mode  of 
behavior  and  not  a  pattern  conveniently  attached  to  phenomena  which  on  the 
surface  resemble  dialectic  process.  Although  Struik  brings  out  in  his  article 
many  interesting  facts,  he  seems  to  us  to  be  guilty  of  the  fallacy  mentioned  of 
applying  dialectics  like  a  pattern  to  these  facts.  He  fails  to  develop  or  at  least 
to  indicate  the  development  of  those  basic  processes  of  which  mathematics  was= 
a  product  and  upon  which  mathematics  reacted.  It  seems  to  us  a  lack  of  dia- 
lectical analysis  of  ideology  if  we  read  on  page  84  that  "the  necessity  of  op- 
erating with  large  numbers  leads  to  a  pride  in  workmanship,  to  the  develop- 
ment of  a  craft  which  finds  pleasure  in  computing  for  computing's  sake,  in  look- 
ing for  impractical  problems  to  test  the  power  of  the  method,"  when  such  an 
observation  leads  to  a  conclusion  "that  without  this  pride  in  men  like  Van 
Cedlen  *  *  *  we  never  should  have  had  the  practical  invention  of  logarithms." 
We  fail  to  understand  therefore  of  course  why  such  an  invention  as  an  "interac- 
tion *  *  *  between  social  necessity  to  get  results  and  the  love  of  science  for 
science's  sake"  is  exhibiting  "dialectics  or  reality,  a  simple  illustration  of  the 
unity  of  opposites."  Not  only  that  there  does  not  seem  to  us  to  be  any  dialectic 
relationship  but  a  mere  seeing  of  ghosts,  but  the  term  itself  in  its  novelty  seems 
to  ask  for  clarifying  explanation.  This  concept  of  the  pride  of  workmanship 
is  repeatedly  used  till  it  is  finally  given  the  form  of  the  active  and  direct  cause 
to  the  birth  of  analytical  geometry  (Cf.  85).  The  method  employed  by  Struik 
and  criticized  here  becomes  definitely  obvious  when  on  Page  88  under  the  pre- 
tense of  historical  analysis  he  is  describing  (as  distinguished  from  analyzing) 
the  tendence  toward  abstraction  by  mere  assertions  (Cf.  the  first  half  of  Page 
88).  Or  if  he  informs  us  on  p.  92  that  "Feudal  society  did  not  use  exact  science 
much."    Of  course,  it  couldn't  as  exact  science  was  just  in  the  foetal  stage. 

It  would  lead  too  far  to  investigate  here  the  validity  of  such  a  concept  as 
"social  causality,"  but  we  might  only  mention  that  the  use  of  the  word  "there- 
fore" in  the  last  line  of  the  third  paragraph  on  page  89  by  no  means  disposes  of 
our  criticism. 

With  this  method  applied,  the  definition  of  "genius"  as  always  implying  "an 
element  of  the  irrational,  the  unexplainable"  does  not  come  as  a  surprise,  nor 
of  course  the  further  deduction  that  "the  history  of  a  science  which  depends 
so  much  on  the  role  of  genius  seems  also  to  have  elements  of  the  irrational  and 
the  unexplainable."  The  absurdity  of  these  remarks  is  not  covered  up  by  the 
mistranslation  of  Engels  in  the  following  sentence  in  which  Struik  makes  it  ap- 
pear as  if  by  "average  shape"  he  meant  the  averaging  of  the  special  forms  af- 
fected by  genius  by  the  means  of  a  mass  action.  "Average  shape,"  however, 
means  here  socially  determined  shape  in  the  same  way  that  "Durchschnittsar- 
beit"  is  used  by  Marx  as  socially  determined  labor  (Das  Kapital,  Bd.  I.  S.  49 
Adoratzky  edition.  We  might  mention  at  this  place  that  in  the  following  quo- 
tation from  the  Engels  correspondence  the  second  half  of  the  third  from  the 
last  line  seems  to  be  a  mistransplation  although  we  are  at  the  moment  unable 
to  check  it.  Further,  on  page  94,  the  first  sentence  in  the  second  paragraph  only 
seems  to  make  sense  if  an  "it  is"  is  inserted  between  "that"  and  "commodity- 
fetishism"  in  the  second  line.  On  page  91,  the  quotation  on  the  head  of  the 
page,  the  German  word  "Betriebes"  is  put  after  the  word  "cultivation,"  but  this 
is  never  a  translation  of  the  word  "Betrieb."  The  best  possible  translation 
which  occurs  to  our  mind  at  present  is  "institution." ) . 


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Finally,  and  perhaps  most  clearly,  we  see  the  Struik's  method  in  the  state- 
ment that  "the  transition  in  mentality  (i.  e.,  the  tendency  to  think  far  more  in 
abstraction  is  reflected  in  the  economic  field  in  the  replacement  of  use  value  by 
exchange  value."  (88)  First  of  all,  this  transition  is  not  reflected  in  any  re- 
placement in  the  economic  field,  but  if  at  all,  it  is  vice  versa.  But  beyond  this 
fundamental  misconception,  what  actually  takes  place  in  the  economic  sphere  is 
by  no  means  the  replacement  of  use  value  by  exchange  value,  but  on  the  con- 
trary, a  dialectic  growth  of  a  form  which  contains  both  use  value  and  exchange 
value  as  opposites. 

(c)  Communications  on  Jaensch  and  Comte  seem  to  us  to  be  valuable  infor- 
mation in  an  appropriate  form. 

9.  We  have  not  as  yet  seen  The  Marxist  Quarterly  personally,  but  we  have 
received  from  different  sympathizers  who  had  occasion  to  see  it  one  uniform 
comment :  the  attractiveness  of  the  format.  We  should  like  to  call  your  atten- 
tion to  this  fact. 

We  would  be  glad  if  this  memorandum  could  serve  as  a  profitable  basis  for 
discussions,  and  we  would  appreciate  very  much  the  communication  of  your 

reactions. 

Constance  Kyle, 
Department  of  Psychiatry  of  the  University  of  Illinois. 

Kart.  H.  Niebyi,, 
Department  of  Economics,  Carleton  College. 

Alfred  Z.  Lowe. 

Carleton  College,  Northfield,  Minnesota, 

Department  of  Economics, 

Jan.  25,  37. 
Shigeto  Tsuru, 

63,  Claverly  Hall,  Cambridge,  Mass. 

Dear  Shigeto:  I  am  sorry  about  the  delay  the  memorandum  suffered — let's 
hope  that  it  is  still  in  time.  There  are  a  number  of  things  I  would  formulate 
today  somewhat  differently,  but  I  think  it's  better  we  don't  begin  with  any 
rewriting  but  wait  for  the  response  we  get. 

I  just  got  the  second  issue.  It  looks  much  better  although  I  haven't  had  time 
to  read  it. 

Sam  S.  just  wrote  me  that  I  should  review  Strachey's  new  book  which  I 
think  I  will  do  as  soon  as  I  will  have  the  copy. 

Have  you  heard  anything  about  your  article?  Sweezey's  remarks  I  couldn't 
find  in  the  new  issue  and  Sillen  wrote  me  from  NY  that  he  didn't  know  anything 
about  them. 

Do  write  me  what  you  think  about  the  Keynes  article.  I  will  do  the  same 
as  soon  as  I  have  read  it. 

I  won't  be  able  to  get  to  Chicago  this  week  as  planned  as  I  am  over  my  neck 
in  work.  Next  Monday  I  have  to  begin  teach  two  new  courses  for  which  I 
haven't  prepared  as  yet  anything.  I  talked  to  Conny  several  times  on  the  phone 
and  had  several  letters,  the  work  seems  to  go  along  there  nicely,  although  with 
the  usual  birth-paines. 

I  do  hope  you  are  well ! 
Very  cordially, 

K  (Karl  Heinrich  Niebyl)  . 

Senator  Jenner.  Do  you  want  to  comment  ? 

Mr.  Tsuru.  I  want  to  make  clear  the  part  I  played  in  drafting  this 
memorandum. 

Senator  Jenner.  All  right. 

Mr.  Tsuru.  The  memorandum  was  drafted,  I  think,  in  the  course 
of  the — toward  the  end  of  January  1937,  from  the  end  of  December 
1936  toward  the  end  of  January  1937.  I  was  in  Chicago  for  a  brief 
period  in  the  early  part  of  the  drafting,  and  discussed  a  number  of 
questions  contained  in  the  memorandum  with  two  other  persons  whose 
names  appear  there.  I  tried  to  refresh  my  memory  yesterday,  after 
receiving  this  copy,  what  particular  part  I  was  especially  instrumental 
in  bringing  about.  And  I  am  very  sorry  I  cannot  recall  any  partic- 
ular point,  but  the  general  observation  I  should  like  to  make  is  that 


3736       SCOPE    OF    SOVIET    ACTIVITY    IN    THE    UNITED    STATES 

it  is  my  understanding  that  Mr.  Niebyl  had  a  major  role  in  play  in 
drafting  this  memorandum,  as  is  clear  from  the  fact  that  I  left  Chicago 
very  early  in  January  of  1937,  and  the  memorandum  was  completed 
only  toward  the  end  of  January  and  sent  to  me  by  mail.  And  further- 
more, internal  evidence  is 

Senator  Jenner.  Did  you  go  to  Chicago  to  collaborate  on  this  par- 
ticular memorandum  ? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  The  reason  I  went  to  Chicago  was  not  simply  one,  but 
T  knew  I  was  going  to  Chicago.  So  I  spoke  with  ]SIr.  Parry,  now  I  don't 
quite  remember  but  I  must  have  spoken  to  Mr.  Parry  before  I  went 
to  Chicago,  and  discussed  a  number  of  problems  related  to  Science 
and  Society  and  went  to  Chicago.  But  the  major  reason  I  went  to 
Chicago  was  to  accompany  Prof,  and  Mrs.  Kei  Shibata,  who  had  just 
lost  their  only  son  and  were  psychologically  in  an  extremely  depressed 
condition  and  they  asked  me  to  travel  with  them  to  Niagara  Falls  and 
Detroit  and  Chicago  and  they  were  just  visiting  this  country  at  the 
time,  so  I  agreed  and  accompanied  them.  That  is  the  major  reason  J 
went  to  Chicago,  or  went  around  these  places. 

But  I  utilized  the  opportunity  to  discuss  these  matters  with  Mr. 
Niebyl  and  Miss  Kyle. 

Senator  Jenner.  You  made  a  trip  into  Wisconsin,  too.  What  was 
the  purpose  of  th:vt  trip? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  At  that  time  I  do  not  believe  I  made  a  trip,  earlier  I  did. 

Senator  Jenner.  Earlier,  all  right.  "Wliat  was  the  purpose  of  that 
trip  into  Wisconsin  ? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  I  think  I  stated  yesterday  I  attended  summer  schools, 
if  I  remember  correctly,  three  times  at  the  University  of  Wisconsin. 
The  main  reason  being  that,  since  I  was  originally  a  philosophy  major 
in  college  and  changed  into  economics  later  on,  I  had  to  catcli  up  with 
some  of  my  economics  courses  and  I  wanted  to  do  so  through  training 
at  summer  school.  And  since  I  like  Lake  Mendota  during  the  sum- 
mer, I  chose  the  University  of  Wisconsin  to  do  so. 

Senator  Jenner.  You  financed  your  own  education  ? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  I  personally  had  no  funds.  My  father  did.  Most  of 
my  college  days.  It  was  very  difficult  at  the  time  to  do  any  work 
under  the  immigration  law.  I  could  wash  dishes,  so  I  did  such  things 
occasionally.  But  otherwise  my  college  days  were  financed  by  my 
father. 

Senator  Jenner.  The  Communist  Party  never  paid  for  any  of  your 
trips  out  to  Chicago  to  collaborate  on  this  matter? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  Absolutely  not. 

Senator  Jenner.  No  Communist  contributed  to  your  expenses? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  Absolutely  not. 

Senator  Jenner.  Mr.  Parry  or  any  of  the  other  associate  professors 
you  referred  to  in  your  previous  testimony  never  advanced  you  any 
money  of  any  kind? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  No,  sir. 

Mr.  Morris.  Mr.  Chairman,  I  would  like  to  submit  that  I  studied 
this  document  very  carefully,  and  it  has  all  the  earmarks  of  being 
prepared  by  what  the  Communists  call  experienced  "agitprop  direc- 
tors" of  the  Communist  Party.  Are  you  acquainted  with  that  ma- 
terial, Mr.  Tsuru  ? 

Mr.  Tsuru.  I  am  sorry,  I  am  not  acquainted  with  that  term. 


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Mr.  MoRRRis.  Mr,  Chairman,  I  would  like  to  read  sections  of  this. 
Senator  Jennek.  Proceed.     It  is  all  in  the  record. 
Mr.  Morris.  First  page,  paragraph  3 : 

It  is  our  opinion  that  SS  did  not  appear  accidentally  at  this  particular  time. 
The  fact  that  a  magazine  of  the  similar  nature  has  appeared  in  the  last  forty 
years  in  Germany,  Russia,  Switzerland,  and  Japan,  while  not  in  the  Anglo-Saxon 
countries,  especially  not  in  the  U.  S.,  seems  to  us  to  reflect  a  basically  uneven 
development,  the  recognition  of  which  is  fundamental  to  our  determination  of 
the  method  which  we  have  to  employ  in  regard  to  SS  in  the  U.  S.  According 
to  the  analyses  of  the  Seventh  World  Congress,  capitalism  has  entered  its  crisis 
as  such.  For  the  U.  S.  this  meant  that  the  very  basis  of  the  position  of  the 
intellectual — while  we  are  not  of  the  opinion  that  SS  is  only  or  even  primarily 
directed  to  the  intellectuals,  a  point  which  will  be  clarified  later  on,  we  think 
that  it  is  best  to  develop  our  analysis  from  that  specific  point  in  the  class  strug- 
gle where  SS  originated,  the  intellectual. — the  economic  basis  for  the  oppor- 
tunism and  for  the  lack  of  their  being  forced  to  develop  class  consciousness  in 
the  form  of  revolutionary  theory  has  withered  away  and  that  this  necessity  in 
many  different  forms  was  becoming  apparent.  Reviewed  in  this  way,  SS  is  not 
only  a  manifestation  of  the  grown  contradictions  in  the  American  capitalist 
society  but  represents  in  itself  an  active  force  and  an  important  and  indispen- 
sable weapon  v/ithin  the  struggle  of  these  contradictions. 

I  would  like  to  move  over  to  the  next  page.  Senator,  and — may  I  read 
parts  of  this  in  the  interest  of  time  ? 

Senator  Jenner.  Yes,  proceed. 

]Mr.  Morris.  And  if  I  seem  to  take  anything  out  of  context,  in  so 
moving  will  you  let  me  knoAv,  JVIr.  Tsuru?  Under  part  1,  there  is  a 
subdivision  1, 2,  and  3. 

1.  We  have  to  deepen  or  even  first  to  prepare  the  ground  for  an  understanding 
of  the  Marxist  content  of  the  magazine.  Such  a  necessity  is  abundantly  clear 
from  the  last  issue.  (We  specifically  refer  to  the  articles  by  McGill,  Struik,  and 
Brameld.) 

^Vlio  are  McGill,  Struik,  and  Brameld  ? 

Mr.  Tsi^Ru.  Mr.  McGill  was  one  of  the  editors  of  Science  and  Society 
at  the  time.  Mr.  Struik  was  a  professor  of  mathematics  at  Massachu- 
setts Institute  of  Technology,  and  I  believe  he  was  either  an  editor 
or  contributing  editor.     Brameld,  this  name  I  do  not  recall. 

Mr.  Morris.  Is  that  Theodore  Brameld  ? 

Mr.  Tsuru.  I  do  not  recall,  Mr.  Morris. 

Mr.  Morris  (reading)  : 

2.  We  help  these  people  already  responsive  to  the  magazine  to  find  the  "polit- 
ical" contents  of  the  magazine. 

3.  We  make  a  conscious  effort  of  extending  this  field  of  responsiveness  by 
organizing  study  groups  around  specific  scientific  fields,  for  instance,  modern 
problems  in  physics,  or  relation  of  biology  to  political  science,  or  the  function 
of  law  and  dictatorship,  etc.  etc.,  in  each  case  bearing  in  mind  that  our  function 
is  to  expose  the  inherent  contradictions  in  the  bourgeois  approach  and  to  lead 
the  members  of  the  study  groups  to  realize  the  only  correct  approach :  the  ap- 
proach of  dialectic  materialism. 

Mr.  Morris.  Then  I  would  like  to  go  down  to  No.  1  in  the  next  sub- 
division.   [Reading :] 

1.  As  far  as  intellectuals  are  concerned,  their  attending  of  classes  in  Workers 
Schools  presupposes  a  definite  decision  on  their  part ;  not  only  many  of  them  at 
the  moment  are  not  willing  to  make  such  a  decision  due  to  lack  of  conviction 
but  many  external  circumstances  impose  the  degree  of  precaution  which  they 
most  certainly  are  not  willing  to  forego  before  having  attended  a  study  group. 
Furthermore,  there  are  a  number  of  people  whose  right  to  precaution  under  the 
circumstances  given  would  certainly  not  be  denied. 

2.  Study  groups  are  not  to  be  perceived  as  regular  courses  beginning  with  the 
reading  of  jNIanifesto  and  ending  with  the  application  of  the  Third  Volume  of 


3738      SCOPE    OF    SOVIET   ACTIVITY    IN    THE    UNITED    STATES 

Capital  to  their  specific  fields.    Such  a  course  would  certainly  belong  to  Workers 
Schools.    Positive  contents  of  such  study  groups  have  been  outlined  above. 

3.  There  should  be  no  reason  why  SS  study  groups  could  not  be  organized 
within  the  framework  of  Workers  Schools  as  actually  done  in  the  W.  S.  here 
in  Chicago.  Such  a  group  would  serve  a  similar  function  as  those  groups  men- 
tioned before  only  for  slightly  more  developed  intellectuals  who  do  not  object 
to  going  to  a  W.  S.  but  might  find  it  difficult  to  start  their  Marxist  education  on 
an  elementary  basis.  Secondly,  there  are  those  within  such  a  group  who  are 
far  more  easily  approached  via  their  own  fields. 

Then  I  would  like  to  skip  to  part  2,  just  a  half  page  later.  [Read- 
ing:] 

PABT   TWO 

In  a  letter  by  Stalin  to  the  editors  of  the  central  organ  of  the  TCL  of  the  Soviet 
Union  (unfortunately  we  do  not  have  material  with  us  to  check)  several  years 
ago,  Stalin  stressed  the  great  importance  of  the  practical  work  performed  in  the 
Soviet  Union  since  the  revolution  as  something  to  be  extremely  proud  of.  But 
he  said  that  little  had  been  done  for  the  struggle  on  the  theoretical  front.  And 
this  established  one  of  the  weakest  points  in  the  development  of  Soviet  Union. 
He  then  stressed  the  responsibility  of  the  Party  and  urged  the  concentration  on 
this  point.  We  think  that  a  lesson  could  be  taken  from  this  letter  to  our  own 
situation. 

In  other  words,  Mr.  Tsuru,  you  invoked  a  letter  by  Mr.  Stalin  as  a 
guide  to  your  political  activities  at  this  time. 

Mr.  Tsuru.  As  I  indicated  earlier,  my  part  in  drafting  this  memo- 
randum I  consider  somewhat  minor.  I  took  the  responsibility  of  put- 
ting down  the  name  because  I  participated  in  a  discussion  while  pre- 
paring for  the  draft,  and  I  was  the  intermediary  to  carry,  if  it  was 
completed,  to  Mr.  Parry.  So  I  took  the  responsibility  of  putting  down 
the  name,  but  actually,  as  I  think  you  will  be  able  to  establish  in  the  lat- 
ter part  of  this  memorandum,  the  memorandum  refers  to  Lowe  as 
Friend  Lowe,  whereas  it  refers  to  Niebyl  by  initials,  KHN.  I  recall 
most  of  the  parts  of  the  things  were  written  by  Mr.  Niebyl  and  my  con- 
tribution was  to  participate  in  the  discussion  of  certain  aspects  of  the 
memorandum,  so  if  you  ask  me  if  I  invoke  the  letter  by  Stalin,  the  only 
thing  I  can  say  is  to  the  extent  I  have  put  down  the  name,  I  am  respon- 
sible, but  it  was  so  long  as  I  can  recall,  not  I  who  invoked  Stalin. 

Mr.  SouRwiNE.  May  I  respectfully  suggest  this  is  at  a  time  when 
the  witness  has  already  testified  he  was  acting  like  a  Communist,  think- 
ing like  a  Communist. 

Now,  in  that  connotation  there  is  nothing  remarkable  about  putting 
that  in  this  memorandum. 

Mr.  Morris.  Well,  may  I  just  read  two  more  paragraphs.  Senator  ? 

Senator  Jenner.  Proceed. 

Mr.  Morris.  The  next  paragraph  under  part  2.    [Reading :] 

We  feel  it  is  our  duty  to  ask  ourselves  the  question  :  what  work  has  been  done 
in  analyzing  the  present  complex  situation  in  this  country.  Most  certainly  the 
analysis  of  the  Seventh  World  Congress  has  given  the  basis  for  the  analysis  which 
was  concretized  and  applied  to  the  US  in  the  Ninth  convention.  These  analyses, 
however,  could  stress  because  of  their  very  nature  only  the  changes  in  the  basic 
structure  as  well  as  certain  specific  aspects  of  it.  The  manifestations  of  these 
changes  in,  for  instance,  bourgeois  economic  theory,  philosophy,  natural  sciences, 
etc.,  still  wait  for  appropriate  analyses  and  even  more,  we  are  still  waiting  (and 
the  fact  that  we  are  waiting  is  in  itself  an  indictment)  for  an  adequate  expres- 
sion of  these  changes  in  Marxist  theoretical  terms.  The  general  attempt  made 
in  this  direction  is  an  analysis  by  Varga  which  should  perform  for  us  the  same 
function  as  the  Seventh  World  Congress  to  the  Ninth  Party  Convention. 

Now,  again,  "Should  perform  for  us  the  same  function  as  the 
Seventh  World  Congress  to  the  Ninth  Party  Convention." 


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Mr,  TsuRU,  I  think  I  can  only  repeat  the  same  as  my  answer  to  my 
part  in  the  memorandum. 

Mr.  Morris.  The  next  part  only  refers  to  Comrade  Bittelman. 

Senator  Jenner.  Was  it  your  habit  to  refer  to  individuals  as 
"Comrades"  ? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  Mr.  Chairman,  I  am  clearly  certain  that  it  was  Mr. 
Niebyl's  writing.  He  referred  to  Mr.  Bittelman  as  Comrade  and  a 
little  further  below  he  refers  to  me  as  "Friend." 

Senator  Jenner.  But  in  the  beginning  of  the  paragraph  you  say — 
the  word  is,  "we  feel  it  is  our  duty  to  ask  ourselves"^and  then  in  the 
middle  of  the  paragraph  you  say  "Comrade."  Now  I  ask  you,  do  you 
refer  to  your  friends  as  comrades? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  No,  sir,  I  do  not  do  so. 

Senator  Jenner.  You  never  did. 

Mr.  TsuRU.  I  never  did. 

Senator  Jenner.  Why  did  you  sign  this  document  then  * 

Mr.  TsuRU.  Well,  because 

Senator  Jenner.  Did  you  ask  Mr.  Niebyl  to  correct  that  and  put 
Mr.  Bittelman  rather  than  Comrade  Bittelman  at  any  time  ? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  I  am  sorry,  I  did  not  do  so. 

Senator  Jenner,  Of  course,  you  are  sorry  now. 

Mr.TsuRU.  Yes. 

Senator  Jenner.  How  long  have  you  been  sorry  ? 

Mr.  TsTJRU.  Well,  I  think  1  expressed  in  my  initial  statement  about 
the  gradual  changes  in  my  views  and  I  should  say,  if  you  would  like 
me  to  develop  on  that  point,  probably  I  could  spend  a  few  minutes 
but  I  don't  like  to  take  up  too  much  of  the  committee's  time  so  I  would 
ascribe  my  gradual  transition  to  the  period,  the  initial  period  from 
1938  and  1939,  but  more  intensively  I  began  to  change  my  views  in  the 
postwar  period. 

Senator  Jenner.  But  when  you  were  attached  to  SCAP  under  the 
command  of  General  MacArthur,  you  hadn't  clearly  changed  your 
views  ? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  I  was  attached  to  SCAP  in  1946  and  1947  and  I  believe 
I  had  changed  my  views  then. 

Senator  Jenner.  All  right,  proceed. 

Mr.  Morris.  Well,  Senator,  I  thought  possibly  when  we  got  to  that 
line  of  development  I  might  ask  a  few  questions.  But  excuse  me,  sir, 
I  will  go  back  and  finish  this  line  of  questioning. 

I  have  just  one  more  letter  I  will  offer  the  witness  at  this  time, 
dated  May  9,  1937,  which  was  shown  to  the  witness  in  the  executive 
session  this  morning.  It  is  addressed  to  Mr.  Karl-Heinrich.  It  reads 
as  follows : 

Deab  Karl-Heineich  : 

I  hope  that  the  fact  that  I  have  not  heard  from  you  does  not  mean  that  you 
have  been  ill,  but  rather  that  you  have  been  terrifically  busy  as  usual. 

Toward  the  end  of  March  we  started  a  new  study  group  here  for  the  study  of 
American  capitalism  from  the  Marxist  point  of  view.  The  group  consists  of 
young  instructors  and  graduate  students  in  economics,  history,  and  law,  includ- 
ing a  few  men  who  have  already  established  some  reputation  in  their  own  field 
like  Paul  Sweezy  and  Robert  Bryce.  Thus  far  we  met  five  times  and  discussed 
five  papers :  "Marxian  Methodology  in  Social  Sciences'  by  myself,  "National  In- 
come and  its  Distribution  Among  Different  Classes"  by  L.  Tarshis,  "American 
Imperialism"  by  E.  H,  Norman,  "Peculiarities  of  Capitalist  Accumulation  in 
U.  S,"  by  P,  Sweezy,  and  "Agriculture  in  U,  S,  A."  by  R.  Bryce.  We  plan  to 
meet  for  the  last  time  this  year  two  weeks  from  today  to  discuss  the  program  of 
a  Farmer-Labor  Party. 


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I  haven't  finished  reading  the  letter  but  that  is  the  part  I  want  to 
ask  you  questions  about. 

(The  letter  referred  to  above  was  marked  "Exhibit  No.  451    and 

reads  as  follows:) 

Exhibit  No.  451 

36  Claverly  Hall, 
Cambridge,  Mass.,  May  9, 1937. 

Dear  Karl-Heinrich  :  I  hope  that  the  fact  that  I  have  not  heard  from  you 
does  not  mean  that  you  have  been  ill,  but  rather  that  you  have  been  terrifically 
busy  as  usual. 

Toward  the  end  of  March  we  started  a  new  study  group  here  for  the  study  of 
American  capitalism  from  the  Marxist  point  of  view.  The  group  consists  of 
young  instructors  and  graduate  students  in  economics,  history  and  law,  in- 
cluding a  few  men  who  have  already  established  some  reputation  in  their  own 
field  like  Paul  Sweezy  and  Robert  Bryce.  Thus  far  we  met  five  times  and  dis- 
cussed five  papers:  "Marxian  Methodology  in  Social  Science"  by  myself,  "Na- 
tional Income  and  its  Distribution  among  different  Classes"  by  L.  Tarshis, 
"American  Imperialism"  by  E.  H.  Norman,  "Peculiarities  of  Capitalist  Accumu- 
lation in  U.  S."  by  P.  Sweezy,  and  "Agriculture  in  U.  S.  A."  by  R.  Bryce.  We  plan 
to  meet  for  the  last  time  this  year  two  weeks  from  to-day  to  discuss  the  program 
of  a  Farmer-Labor  Party.  In  the  discussion  of  Bryce's  paper,  the  question  arose, 
in  particular,  if  it  is  not  increasingly  likely  that  agricultural  population  as  a 
whole  would  in  future  politically  identify  themselves  as  one  in  favoring  such  a 
measure  as  the  AAA  and  that  even  tenant  farmers  and  sharecroppers  may  line 
up  with  other  sectors  of  agricultural  population  over  against  industrial  popula- 
tion including  industrial  workers.  How  the  program  of  a  Farmer-Labor  Party 
should  take  such  a  probability  into  consideration  is  one  of  the  questions  we  shall 
discuss.  Therefore,  we  wish  to  obtain  some  materials  which  explain  the  posi- 
tion of  the  Middle  Western  Farmer  Labor  groups  on  such  questions.  If  you 
have  them  on  hand,  will  you  send  them  to  me?  Or,  if  you  know  some  good  articles 
on  the  subject  in  any  of  the  national  periodicals,  will  you  let  me  know? 

Other  study  groups  are  holding  out  quite  nicely.  Representatives  of  several 
study  groups  here  sent  a  letter  to  the  editors  of  S&S  almost  two  months  ago, 
asking  certain  specific  questions  and  suggesting  certain  specific  steps.  But  we 
have  not  heard  a  word  from  them  yet. 

Parry  tells  me  that  we  printed  8,400  copies  of  S&S  per  issue  for  the  last  two 
times  and  we  have  about  1,.500  annual  subs,  also  that  we  need  the  total  of  5,000 
subs  to  make  the  magazine  self-sustaining  and  otherwise  we  need  $2,000  con- 
tributions every  year.  "Otherwise"  means  "unless  we  do  not  get  additional  3,500 
subs."  The  editors  are  quite  pessimistic  about  the  prospect  of  getting  more  subs. 
But  I  think  it  is  a  mistake. 

I  also  feel  that  it  would  be  better  to  establish  various  departmental  editor- 
ships. I  envisage  a  wide  potentiality  under  such  a  system.  The  present  system 
with  a  hurried  weekend  editorial  meeting  once  a  month  or  so  is  almost  an  insult 
to  the  kind  of  work  S&S  is  meant  to  be  doing.  We  need  more  personnel  with 
better  organization,  it  seems  to  me. 

If  you  are  too  busy,  don't  bother  with  those  annotations  which  I  asked  you  to 
write;  and  let  me  know  whichever  way  you  decide. 

The  recent  sudden  death  of  my  mother  will  take  me  back  to  Japan  this  summer. 
But  I  hope  to  be  back  in  U.  S.  in  the  fall. 

(  TSURU  ) 

Mr.TsuRU.  Yes. 

Mr.  Morris.  Who  were  in  that  study  group  to  the  best  of  your  rec- 
ollection ? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  First,  I  would  like  to  state,  this  letter,  although  it  is  a 
copy,  I  am  certain  that  I  wrote  it.  And  then  as  to  Mr.  Morris'  ques- 
tion about  the  study  group,  as  I  now  recall,  although  I  would  not  have 
recalled  the  details,  vrere  it  not  for  the  fact  that  I  have  seen  the  letter,  I 
now  recall  more  details  of  the  study  group  which  consisted  mainly  of 
graduate  students  and  instructors  at  Harvard,  generally  in  the  field 
of  social  science,  economics,  and  history,  to  discuss  among  ourselves 
freely  the  question  of  American  capitalism.    Some  of  us  in  the  study 


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group,  not  all  of  them,  some  of  us  including  myself,  and  possibly  Mr. 
Sweezy,  had  the  idea  of  trying  to  test  the  theories  of  Karl  Marx  as  they 
applied  to  American  capitalism.  I  am  certain  others  included  in  the 
study  group  were  not,  at  least  at  the  time  I  knew  them  then,  so  the 
discussion  was  quite  free  and  flexible  and  we  exchanged  different  points 
of  view.  And  as  INIr.  Morris  has  read  the  part,  we  discussed  a  wide 
variety  of  subjects. 

Mr.  Morris.  And  who  were  in  that  study  group? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  Oh,  Miss — although  I  am  not  certain  if  all  of  them  were 
present  at  every  meeting,  persons  like  Tarshis,  Mr.  Eobert  Bryce,  Mr. 
Paul  Sweezy,  and  Mr.  E.  H.  Norman  w^ere  present. 

Mr.  Morris.  Now,  when  did  you  first  meet  Mr.  Norman,  for  in- 
stance ? 

Mr.  TsuRu.  I  met  Mr.  Norman  for  the  first  time,  I  believe,  in  the 
spring  of  1936.  I  cannot  place  exactly,  but  I  said  it  is  spring,  because 
he  was  introduced  to  me  through  Mr.  Eobert  Bryce,  who  is  a  Canadian 
economist,  at  the  time  a  graduate  student  at  Harvard  University,  and 
I  believe  I  came  to  know  Mr.  Bryce  only  after  several  months  of  my 
academic  year  1935  to  1936.  Mr.  Bryce  introduced  me  to  Mr.  Norman 
at  the  dining  room  of  one  of  the  Harvard  dormitories. 

Mr.  Morris.  Now,  Mr..  Chairman,  I  would  like  to  read  the  excerpt 
from  a  security  memorandum  which  has  previously  been  entered  into 
our  record.^  A  reference  contained  therein  which  reads,  "Tsuru 
Shigato,  Japanese  instructor  at  Harvard," —  That  is  you,  is  it  not? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  Shigato  is  not  quite  correct. 

Mr.  Morris.  Now,  at  that  time — 1942 — you  were  being  repatriated, 
were  you  not  ?  It  means  in  connection  with  the  repatriation  purposes 
of  1942.    [Eeading:] 

The  FBI  was  approached  by  Norman  who  represented  himself  as  an  oflBcial 
on  highly  confidential  business  of  the  Canadian  Government  in  an  effort  to  take 
custody  of  Tsuru's  belongings. 

One  main  item  of  these  belongings  was  a  complete  record  of  the  Nye  munitions 
in\-^stigations,  largely  prepared  by  Alger  Hiss. 

Norman  later  admitted  to  the  FBI  agents  in  charge  that  his  was  only  a  personal 
interest  and  that  he  was  not  representing  the  Canadian  Government  as  stated. 

Another  item  among  these  belongings,  as  reported  by  the  FBI,  was  a  letter 
dated  May  9,  1937,  which  related  to  a  series  of  studies  being  promoted  at  Harvard 
by  Tsuru  which  provided  for  the  study  of  American  capitalism  from  a  Marxist 
viewpoint.  The  studies  were  conducted  by  a  group  of  young  instructors  and 
graduate  students  which  had  met  five  times.  They  discussed  certain  papers 
which  included  "American  Imperialism,"  by  E.  H.  Norman. 

Obviously  that  reference  there  is  to  the  letter  we  have  just  been 
reading. 

Now,  can  you  tell  us  what  precisely  you  did  with  all  your  personal 
papers  and  books  after  your  repatriation  in  1950  ? 

Mr.  Tsuru.  At  the  time  of  repatriation,  that  is  to  say,  before  I  was 
repatriated,  we  had  an  intimation  from,  I  think  it  was  immigration 
authorities  that,  since  we  were  living  unmolested,  paid  by  American 
institutions,  our  application  for  repatriation  is  likely  to  receive  a  low 
priority. 

So,  Mrs.  Tsuru  and  I  more  or  less  decided  in  our  own  mind  that  we 
should  stay  on  until  probably  1943  or  1945,  although  we  had  aj^plied 
for  repatriation.    And  I  negotiated  with  a  number  of  professors  at 


1  See  Emmerson  testimony  March  12,  1957,  pt.  56,  Scope  of  Soviet  Activity  in  the  United 
States,  p.  3645. 


3742      SCOPE    OF    SOVIET   ACTIVITY    EST   THE    UNITED    STATES 

Harvard  so  that  I  could  get  research  assistance  grants  for  the  following 
academic  year  of  1953 — I  am  sorry,  1942  to  1943. 

I  was  assured  of  such  possibilities  and  we  were  under  the  impression 
that  we  would  just  go  on  living  in  Cambridge,  but  suddenly,  I  believe 
it  was  June  the  second,  1942,  we  received  a  telegram  from  the  State 
Department  saying  that  we  are  to  be  repatriated  by  the  first  boat  and 
we  are  to  report  to  the  Ellis  Islands  by  June  the  7th,  I  believe,  the  exact 
date  I  am  not  quite  certain  now.  Which  meant  that  I  had  only  a  few 
days  between  the  receipt  of  the  telegram  and  the  date  of  my  departure. 
I  was  at  the  time  correcting  exam  papers  for  a  number  of  courses  as 
well  as  doing  certain  assigned  jobs  at  the  Museum  of  Fine  Arts.  I 
felt  it  was  my  responsibility  to  finish  the  exam  corrections  and  my 
assignments  at  the  museum  before  I  departed. 

In  fact,  by  the  first  week  of  June,  most  of  the  Harvard  professors 
and  faculty  members  usually  would  have  left  Cambridge  to  vacation, 
except  those  who  are  remaining  for  correction  of  papers.  I  could  not 
ask  anyone  to  take  my  place. 

So  I  considered  the  question  of  packing  my  belongings  a  matter  of 
lowest  priority.  Furthermore,  the  State  Department  instruction  was 
that  I  was  permitted  to  take  only  one  big  trunk  per  person.  It 
specified  the  cubic  feet,  I  am  not  quite  sure,  but  I  found  out  later  on 
it  was  just  about  the  size  of  one  big  trunk  per  person  which  meant  I 
had  to  leave  most  of  the  things  in  Cambridge. 

Therefore,  I  decided  under  the  circumstances,  which  was  quite  an 
extraordinary  circumstance,  from  the  standpoint  of  a  Japanese  citi- 
zen, our  own  country  being  at  M^ar  with  the  country  where  I  had  lived 
some  years,  and  in  my  personal  case,  I  was  under  the  conviction  that 
Japan  should  not  have  started  the  war,  and  also  felt  that  Japan 
would  be  defeated.  So  my  going  back,  to  my  mind,  was  to  go  back 
to  Japan  in  order  to  reconstruct  Japan  somehow  out  of  defeat.  That 
was  the  deep  determination  I  had  in  my  mind. 

From  that  standpoint,  for  me,  books,  papers,  furniture  and  those 
things  were  entirely  immaterial.  Those  were  immaterial  things  to  me. 
Although  I  had  a  large  number  of  books  and  documents,  I  freely  gave 
to  some  of  the  economist  friends  who  came  to  my  apartment  before  I 
left,  the  books  which  they  wanted  to  have.  I  also  contacted  the 
library  of  Harvard,  Japanese  library,  saying  that  I  was  willing  to 
present  my  Japanese  books  to  the  library  if  they  can  find  them  useful. 
Otherwise  I  instructed  the  janitor  of  the  apartment  that  he  can  have 
my  furniture,  kitchen  utensils,  radio,  and,  other  things  he  wanted. 
Books  and  documents  I  was  certain  that  he  would  have  no  use,  so  I 
suggested  to  him  he  can  dispose  of  them  in  second-hand  bookstores  or 
just  dispose  of  them  as  he  liked. 

One  other  item  which  I  took  care  of  was  the  making  out  of  a  box 
full  of  Japanese  books  which  I  intended  to  give  to  Mr.  Norman  be- 
cause he  had  indicated  while  he  was  in  this  country  a  few  years  back 
of  that  period,  that  he  wanted  to  obtain  those  books  very  much,  but 
they  were  very  difficult  to  get. 

The  major  item  in  this  box  of  books  was  volumes  on  source  mate- 
rials on  the  economic  history  of  early  Meiji  period,  that  is  to  say,  the 
third  quarter  of  the  19th  century, 

I  believe  I  included  some  other  source  books  and  economic  history 
books  and  I  left  this  box  in  care  of  International  Student  Association, 
it  might  have  been  called  institute,  I  am  not  certain,  which  was 


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located  on  Phillips  Place,  Cambridge.  Director  at  the  time  was  Mr. 
Lawrence  Mead.  And  I  asked  him  if  he  would  be  willing  to  keep  it 
until  Mr.  Norman  calls  for  it. 

Immediately,  that  is  at  the  same  time,  I  wrote  a  letter  to  Mr. 
Tarshis,  whose  name  I  mentioned  earlier,  who  I  knew  to  be  a  friend 
of  Mr.  Norman,  asking  him  to  get  in  touch  with  Mr.  Norman  when 
the  latter  returns. 

I  knew  Mr.  Norman  to  be  in  Japan  at  the  time  and  gave  him  my 
instructions  to  proceed  to  International  Student  Institute  to  take  that 
box.  That  is  the  way  I  more  or  less  disposed  or  left  behind  my  be- 
longings. 

Mr.  Morris.  Now,  what  happened  as  a  matter  of  fact,  do  you  know  ? 
You  met  Mr.  Norman  subsequently  ? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  Yes,  as  a  matter  of  fact,  repatriation,  of  course,  was 
duly  conducted.  I  came  back  to  Japan  in  August  1942.  And  then  I 
did  serve  for  a  while  in  the  Japanese  Army.  When  the  war  ended  I 
was  in  the  Japanese  foreign  office.  Mr.  Norman  arrived  in  Tokyo, 
I  believe  some  time  in  September,  1945.  He  called  on  our  house,  which 
he  did  not  know  to  be  our  house,  but  knew  to  be  the  house  of  my 
wife's  parents,  to  find  out  where  we  were. 

Mr.  Morris.  This  is  what  year  now  ? 

Mr.  Tsttru.  September  of  1945,  either  the  end  of  September  or 
early  October.     It  was  just  about  that  time — 1945. 

And  it  happened  that  after  our  house  has  been  bombed  in  Tokyo, 
Mrs.  Tsuru  and  I  moved  to  the  house  of  her  own  father.  We  were 
living  in  that  house  which  happened  to  be  located  not  very  far  from 
the  location  of  Canadian  Legation  in  Tokyo  and  I  presume  that  he 
dropped  in  at  Mr.  Wada's  house  to  find  out  where  we  were  and  found 
us  there.  So,  of  course,  we  were  very  much  surprised  to  see  him  so 
quickly  after  the  war,  and  since  that  first  meeting  after  the  war,  I 
think  I  met  him  a  number  of  times. 

Mr.  Morris.  Approximately  how  many  times  ? 

Mr.  Tsuru.  Oh,  I  should  say  in  the  course  of  the  period  from  1945 
to — now  I  am  not  quite  sure  of  the  date  of  his  departure  from  Japan 
and  meanwhile  he  also  left  Japan  and  came  back  again  as  I  know,  be- 
cause he  was  first  with  the  SCAP  and  later  he  came  as  the  Chief  of 
the  Canadian  Legation,  so  there  was  an  interval  there  and  I  think  he 
left  most  likely  around  1950.  And  subsequently  I  know  he  came  to 
Japan,  but  I  did  not  meet  him  at  the  time.  I  met  him  during  those 
approximately  4i/^  years  or  so,  possibly  20  times  or  so. 

Senator  Jenner.  Did  you  serve  with  him  in  SCAP  ? 

Mr.  Tsuru.  Pardon. 

Senator  Jenner.  Did  you  serve  with  him  in  SCAP  ? 

Mr.  Tsuru.  No,  he  was  under  different  jurisdiction  within  the 
SCAP.  I  was  in  the  Economics  and  Scientific  Section  headed  by 
General  Marquat,  attached  to  the  Research  and  Statistics  Division 
within  that  section.  Mr.  Norman  I  understood  to  be  working  in  tlie, 
some  kind  of  intelligence  service  or  something,  I  believe,  under,  if  I 
correctly  remember,  under  General  Thorpe. 

And  during  the  course  of  my  meeting  with  Mr.  Norman,  a  number 
of  times,  that  is  subsequent  to  the  first  meeting,  I  inquired  of  him 
whether  he  finally  got  those  books  at  the  International  Students  Insti- 
tute and  I  believe  he  said  he  got  them. 


3744       SCOPE    OF    SOVIET   ACTIVITY    IN   THE    UNITED    STATES 

And  furthermore,  he  indicated  to  me  voluntarily  not  in  response  to 
my  prompting,  but  he  indicated  to  me  he  also  visited  the  apartment 
house  where  I  used  to  live,  which  incidentally  is  on  Martin  Street, 
Cambridge. 

I  am  sorry  I  was  not  quite  correct  in  my  statement.  I  should  have 
said :  "not  in  response  to  my  questioning,  Mr.  Norman  related  to  me" 
that  he  visited  the  apartment  house  where  I  lived  and  inquired  of  the 
janitor  of  the  apartment  house  about  my  belongings,  with  a  hope,  ac- 
cording to  Mr.  Norman,  to  obtain  some  further  books  on  Japanese 
history  which  I  possessed  in  large  number. 

Apparently  he  had  such  a  hope.  But  after  dealing  with  the  janitor 
for  a  while,  he  did  not  get  a  very  cooperative  attitude  he  told  me. 
The  janitor  looked  somewhat  queer  and  not  very — he  appeared  to  be 
equivocal  about  the  whole  matter.  Although  Mr.  Norman  pressed  it, 
he  couldn't  get  anywhere  with  it. 

Mr.  Morris.  You  say  he  pressed  it  with  the  janitor  to  have  a  look 
at  all  your  papers  and  books. 

Mr.  TsuRU.  Well,  I  gathered  that  Mr.  Norman  pressed,  did  Mr. 
Tsuru  leave  other  belongings  here  and  if  so  he  would  like  to  find  out 
if  he  could  get  hold  of  some  more  Japanese  books. 

I  do  not  remember  the  exact  words  which  INIr.  Norman  said  to  the 
janitor. 

Mr.  ]\IoRRis,  Did  he  tell  you  he  had  represented  himself  as  an  official 
of  the  Canadian  Government  ? 

Mr.  Tsllrtt.  Not  that  I  recall. 

Mr.  Morris.  He  didn't  indicate  that  at  all? 

Mr.  Tsuru.  Not  that  I  recall.  But  I  believe  he  told  me  he  visited 
the  place  twice  or  he  first  visited  it  once  and  then  made  an  approach 
the  second  time,  in  what  means  I  do  not  know,  but  I  remember  he  said 
he  made  attempts  twice. 

Mr.  Morris.  And  you  did  say  he  pressed  on  the  point  ? 

Mr.  TsLTRU.  Yes,  he  pressed  on  the  point  that  he  wanted  to  see  it, 
but  could  not  get  anywhere  so  he  went  back.  So  he  told  me  now  he 
doesn't  know  what  happened  to  my  belongings  which  I  left  at  the 
apartment. 

Mr.  INIoRRis.  And  some  of  which  have  come  into  the  record  of  the 
Internal  Subcommittee  and  has  given  us  valuable  information. 

Mr.  Tsuru.  Yes,  much  to  my  own  shame  of  the  period  which  is 
covered. 

Mr.  Morris.  Do  you  know  a  man  named  Israel  Halperin  ? 

Mr.  Tsuru.  Yes. 

Mr.  Morris.  Who  was  Israel  Halperin  ? 

Mr.  Tsuru.  I  knew  him  as  an  instructor  of  the  mathematics  at  Har- 
vard University.  He  might  have  been  a  research  associate,  the  official 
title  I  do  not  know.  He  was  introduced  to  me,  I  believe,  by  Mr.  Nor- 
man. The  vear  I  cannot  remember  quite  exactly,  but  possibly  around 
1937. 

Mr.  Morris.  Now,  this  is  the  same  man  who  was  arrested  in  the 
Canadian  espionage  case  in  1934  ? 

Mr.  Tsuru.  That  I  did  not  know,  but  I  knew  it  later  because  I  was 
questioned  about  him  by  United  States  Government  representatives 
in  Japan. 

Mr.  Morris.  Did  you  know  your  name  appearecl  in  his  address  book 
at  the  time  of  his  arrest  ? 


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Mr.  TsuRU.  I  did  not  know  my  name  appeared  there. 

Mr.  Morris.  How  late  did  you  see  Mr.  Halperin  prior  to  that  time  ? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  He  never  met  my  wife  so  I  think  I  am  pretty  certain 
it  was  before  I  got  married.  I  got  married  Jmie  29, 1939,  therefore,  it 
was  before  that  time. 

Mr.  Morris.  I  see — 1939. 

Mr.TsuRU.  1939. 

Mr.  Morris.  So  you  didn't  see  him  from  1939  to  1946  ? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  No. 

Mr.  INloRRis.  Now,  do  you  know  a  man  named  Harry  F.  Alber  ? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  Mr.  Harry  Alber  was  in  the  Economics  and  Scientific 
Section  of  SCAP  in  Japan  at  the  time  I  was  employed  by  the  Eco- 
nomics and  Scientific  Section  from  1946  to  1947.  He  was,  however, 
in  a  different  division. 

I  was  in  Eesearch  and  Statistics  Division,  but  Mr.  Alber  was,  I 
think,  in  Price  Control  Division.  And  I  came  to  know  him  through 
this,  more  or  less  official  connections  of  my  job  as  economist  in  the 
ESS.  The  quesion  arose  as  to  which  years  of  the  prewar  Japan 
should  we  use  as  the  basis  of  various  index  numbers,  price  level,  and 
so  forth.  I  was  brought  into  the  Price  Control  Division,  Chief  of  the 
Price  Control  Division,  I  do  not  recall  now,  but  Mr.  Alber  was  there. 
That  was  the  first  time  I  met  him  in  the  office  of  the  Chief  of  the  Price 
Control  Division  in  ESS.  We  discussed  about  the  appropriate  basis 
for  various  indices  of  Japan,  the  prewar  years.  Since  then  I  came  to 
Imow  him.  1  believe  he  left  the  SCAP  after  a  while  and  even  after  he 
left  the  SCAP  I  think  I  met  him  a  number  of  times. 

Mr.  Morris.  Are  you  now  adviser  to  his  firm  in  Tokj^o  ? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  At  first  he  asked  me  to  be  an  adviser.  I  think  it  was 
called 

Mr.  Morris.  International  Economic  Service,  Ltd.;  is  that  it? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  I  am  not  quite  certain  of  the  name  but  I  know  he 
had  a  firm  of  consultants,  and  since  I  know  him  sufficiently  to  call 
him  by  his  first  name,  he  asked  me  to  be  an  adviser  or  consultant, 
that  is  to  help  him  along,  and  I  said  not  in  a  formal  way,  but  I 
shall  be  glad  to  drop  in  every  once  in  a  while  to  give  any  knowledge 
of  mine  which  will  be  helpful  to  him.  So  I  think  I  visited  his  office 
altogether  about,  between  5  and  10  times,  I  should  say. 

Mr.  Morris.  You  have  been  advising  him  then,  you  say  informally  ? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  Actually  it  never  came  to  that.  That  is  to  say,  there 
was  a  question  of  remuneration.  To  advise  any  service,  of  course,  it 
is  natural  that  Mr.  Alber  feels  he  should  pay  me.  Now  I  said,  "No, 
I  don't  like  to  have  such  an  arrangement,"  so  then  Alber  thought — 
he  had  some  other  ideas,  we  were  on  friendly  terms  with  him  dis- 
cussing various  questions,  but  never  came  to  actual  solid  advising 
work. 

Mr.  Morris.  And  when  did  you  last  see  Mr.  Alber  ? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  I  saw  him  for  the  last  time,  I  should  say,  when  he 
told  me  that  he  was  being  investigated  and  he  told  me  about  that 
matter  and  he  was  very  much  concerned  about  it  and  that  was  the 
time — might  have  been  1949  or  1950. 

Mr.  Morris.  You  have  not  seen  him  since  that  time  ? 

Mr.  TsTTRu.  I  have  not  seen  him  since. 


3746       SCOPE    OF    SOVIET   ACTIVITY    IN    THE    UNITED    STATES 

Mr.  Morris.  Did  you  know  he  had  been  indicted  by  a  Newport 
News,  Va.,  grand  jury  on  charges  he  committed  perjurjy  before  the 
Army  Department  Security  Board,  April  29,  1951,  hearing? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  I  did  not  know  that. 

Mr.  Morris.  Did  you  know  he  was  an  American  Communist  ? 

Mr.  TstJRU.  I  did  not  know  he  was  an  American  Communist. 

Mr.  Morris.  Mr.  Tsuru,  were  you  instrumental  in  the  resuscitation 
of  the  Japanese  Council  of  the  Institute  of  Pacific  Relations  in  the 
postwar  period  ? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  I  think  it  would  be  unfair  to  many  others  who  were 
very  active  in  the  resuscitation  of  the  IPR  if  I  say  I  was  instrumental. 
I  had  participated  in  it.  But  honestly  speaking,  I  should  say,  there 
were  a  few  others  who  were  more  active. 

Mr.  Morris.  But  you  were  one  of  those  people  who  helped  to  re- 
activate the  Japanese  Council  of  the  Institute  ? 

Mr.  Tsuru.  I  was  one  of  those  who  participated  in  discussing  the 
idea  of  reviving. 

Mr.  Morris.  Wlien  was  this,  1946  ? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  We  may  have  started  discussing  it  late  1945. 

Mr.  Morris.  Did  you  know  at  that  time  it  was  a  vehicle  for  Com- 
munist operation  ? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  Well,  in  the  initial  stage  of  attempt  to  resuscitate  the 
IPR  we  had  no  inkling  of  this  kind  of  thing,  of  course.  I  think  it 
would  be  most  correct  if  I  put  it  this  way,  that  some  of  the  elder 
members  of  the  active  persons  who  wanted  to  resuscitate  IPR  became 
more  and  more  concerned  after  they  had  been  communicating  with,  I 
think,  Mr.  Holland,  I  believe,  Mr.  William  Holland,  that  IPR  was 
sort  of  under  the  clouds,  and  Japan  should  be  very  careful  about  choos- 
ing what  kinds  of  people  to  work  actively  in  IPR.  So,  a  large  num- 
ber of  people  at  first  were  engaged  in  the  resuscitation  but  there  was 
a  process  of  selection  which  went  on  gradually  dropping  out  younger 
members,  and  at  the  time  it  was  formally  organized,  possibly  about 
1948,  I  was  a  member  of  the  research  committee  of  the  IPR  but  not 
a  member  of  the  board  of  directors  of  the  Japanese  IPR. 

Mr.  Morris.  You  had  been  active  in  a  moderate  way  in  the  Institute 
of  Pacific  Relations  in  the  United  States;  had  you  not? 

Mr.  Tsuru.  In  a  moderate  way  I  was  active  in  seeing  the  people 
in  IPR  because  Mr.  Carter — I  think  it  was  Mr.  Carter — Mr.  Carter 
asked  me  a  number  of  times  my  opinions. 

Mr.  Morris.  You  knew  Fred  Field  well;  did  you  not? 

Mr.  Tsuru.  No;  I  did  not  know  Mr.  Fred  Field  well.  I  think  I 
met  him  only  once. 

Mr.  Morris.  You  know  for  instance  that  you  were  recommended  to 
do  research  work  for  the  Institute  of  Pacific  Relations  ? 

Mr.  Tsuru.  I  was? 

Mr.  Morris.  Yes. 

Mr.  Tsuru.  Which  year  was  it,  may  I  ask  ? 

Mr.  Morris.  1938  and  1939—1938. 

Mr.  Tsuru.  It  is  quite  possible  that  that  happened. 

Mr.  Morris.  Now,  did  you  know  a  man  named  Chao-Ting  Chi  ? 

Mr. Tsuru.  Chinese? 

Mr.  Morris.  He  was  a  Chinese  Communist  in  the  United  States 
and  is  now  with  the  Red  Chinese  government. 

Mr.  Tsuru.  I  know  he  is  in  China. 


SCOPE    OF    SOVIET   ACTIVITY    IN    THE    UNITED    STATES       3747 

Mr.  Morris.  Yes. 

Mr.  TsuRU.  I  did  not  know  him  to  be  a  Chinese  Communist  in  the 
United  States,  but  I  met  him  a  number  of  times  at  the  IPK. 

Mr.  Morris.  When  did  you  last  see  Chao-Ting  Chi  ? 

Mr.  Tsuru.  I  saw  him  most  likely  around  this  period  in  1938. 

Mr,  Morris.  You  didn't  see  him  in  Japan  ? 

Mr.  Tsuru.  No. 

Mr.  Morris.  Are  you  active  with  the  Institute  of  Pacific  Relations 
now? 

Mr.  Tsuru.  No,  Mr.  Morris. 

Mr.  Morris.  Will  you  tell  us  the  circumstances  of  your  leaving  that 
particular  group  ? 

Mr.  Tsuru.  I  was  a  member  of  the  research  committee,  I  think 
about  1947  or  1948  and  I  contributed  a  paper  for  the  IPR  Lucknow 
conference — that  is  a  city  in  India — which  I  believe  was  held  in  1950. 
And  I  asked  to  be  present  at  the  conference  but  the  board  of  directors 
of  the  IPR  suggested  that  it  was  not  wise  for  me  to  go  to  the  con- 
ference and  of"  course  I  inquired  why.  They  said,  "You  seem  to  be 
suspected  of  something." 

Mr.  JNIoRRis.  That  is  by  the  Japanese  Government. 

Mr.  Tsuru.  I  don't  know  whether  it  was  by  the  Japanese  Govern- 
ment or  by  some  other  authorities,  I  do  not  know,  but  I  received  intima- 
tion that  I  was  likely  to  to  be — 

Nov,',  the  board  of  directors,  since  I  was  not  a  member  of  the  board 
of  directors,  I  do  not  know  the  names  of  all  of  them,  but  I  think  the 
intimation  to  that  effect  was  of  a  sort  of  general  character,  so  I  can't 
specify  who  said  it  to  me,  but  I  am  trying  to  reconstruct  from  my 
memory  why  I  did  not  go  to  Luclmow. 

Mr.  Morris.  Yes,  I  wish  you  would. 

Mr.  Tsuru.  The  board  of  directors  consisted  then,  I  believe,  of 
persons  like  Mr.  Saburo  Matsukata. 

Mr.  Morris.  Will  you  spell  that  for  the  reporter. 

Mr.  Tsuru.  Yes,  S-a-b-u-r-o  M-a-t-s-u-k-a-t-a. 

And  I  think  Mr.  Matsumoto.  At  least  I  believe  those  two  names 
were  contained.  And  Mr.  Matsuo,  M-a-t-s-u-o,  was  I  believe,  the  sec- 
retary of  the  IPR  that  participated  in  the  discussion  of  the  board  of 
directors  and  I  believe  it  was  through  Mr.  Matsuo  that  I  got  the  intima- 
tion that  in  the  discussion  of  the  board  of  directors  they  were  likely 
to  come  to  difficulties  of  some  sort,  and  I  was  very  curious  about  it,  but 
it  couldn't  be  helped,  so  I  said,  "All  right,  I  will  submit  my  paper  and 
someone  will  read  it.    I  shall  not  participate  at  the  conference." 

Mr.  SouRwiNE.  That  was  Matsuhei. 

Mr.  Tsuru.  M-a-t-s-u-h-e-i. 

Mr.  SouRWiNE.  Did  you  know  him  before  he  went  with  IPR  ? 

Mr.  Tsuru.  I  knew  him  only  slightly  when  he  was  in  this  country 
before  the  war,  but  we  happened  to  be  repatriated  by  the  same  boat, 
and  our  rooms  happened  to  be  next  door  in  the  Gripsliolm^  and  they 
had  no  children,  we  had  no  children,  we  were  about  the  same  age,  we 
came  to  know  quite  well  the  Gripshohn. 

Mr.  SouRwiNE.  Did  you  know  him  in  Tokyo  ? 

Mr.  Tsuru.  Pardon. 

Mr.  Sourwine.  Did  you  know  him  in  Tokyo  while  you  were  with 
SCAP? 

Mr.  Tsuru.  Wliile  I  was  with  SCAP  I  think  I  visited  his  office. 


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3748       SCOPE    OF    SOVIET   ACTIVITY    IN    THE    UNITED    STATES 

Mr.  SouRwiNE.  Do  you  know  what  lie  did,  where  he  was  employed  ? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  Where  he  was  employed  ? 

Senator  Jenner.  Where  he  was  employed. 

Mr.  Morris.  Where  he  was  employed. 

Mr.  TsuRU.  Mr.  Matsumo,  I  thought  he  had  some  connection  with 
the  IPK. 

Mr.  SouRWiNE.  He  left  a  position  with  the  office  of  political  adviser 
in  Tokyo  to  take  the  job  with  IPR.    Didn't  you  know  that? 

Mr.  Morris.  Did  you  have  anything  to  do  with  inducing  him  to 
take  that  job  with  IPE  ? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  Matsuo  ? 

Mr.  IMoRRis.  Yes. 

Mr.  TsuRU.  I  don't  recall  that  I  did. 

Mr.  Morris.  Weren't  you  one  of  those  at  least  one  of  those  who 
urged  him  to  leave  his  position  with  the  political  adviser  and  go  and 
undertake  the  job  in  connection  with  the  reorganization  of  IPR  ? 

Mr.  TstJRU.  Political  adviser's  office  where,  ISIr.  Sourwine? 

Mr.  SouRw^iNE.  The  office  of  the  political  adviser  in  the  American 
Embassy. 

Mr.  TsTjRu.  Oh,  I  see. 

Mr.  SouRWiNE.  Didn't  you  know  he  worked  there  ? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  Before  the  war. 

Mr.  SouRwiNE.  No. 

Mr.  TsuRU.  Oh,  after  the  war. 

Mr.  SouRwiNE.  Yes. 

Mr.  TsuRTJ.  I  was  referring  to  the  period  before  the  war. 

Mr.  SouRwiNE.  Yes. 

Mr.  TsuRU.  Before  the  war  when  I  did  not  know  him  very  well  and 
then  I  said  I  came  to  know  him  quite  well. 

Mr.  SouRWi^fE.  That  is  right. 
_  Mr.  TsuRU.  And  then  in  the  postwar  period  so  far  as  my  recollec- 
tion goes,  I  did  not  advise  him  to  leave  the  political  adviser's  office  of 
the  United  States  Government  and  try  to  reconstruct  IPE.  I  had  the 
impression  that  he  was  the  driving  spirit  of  the  resuscitation  of  IPE. 
He  was  very  active  in  trying  to  resuscitate.  I  think  he  even  went 
through  some  privations  at  one  time  because  funds  were  short,  and  so 
forth,  but  he  was  still  determined  to  carry  it  out — the  original  in- 
tentions. 

Mr.  SouRWiNE.  Thank  you  for  letting  me  inquire. 

Mr.  TsuRU.  But  I  wanted  to  finish  the  part  you  asked  me,  Mr. 
Morris.  Then  probably  1951  or  so  I  began  to  hear  about  the  investi- 
gations about  this  Senate  committee  on  the  IPE.  I  think  it  appeared 
in  Time,  I  believe.  I  saw  it  in  one  of  the  American  magazines.  And 
then  saw  it  in  some  other  papers  also,  and  I  think  I  can't  recall  all 
the  things  where  I  saw  the  reference  to  the  investigation  but  I  had 
the  general  information  that  IPE  was  being  investigated  by  the 
Senate  committee. 

Mr.  Morris.  Do  you  Iniow  Mr.  Saionji  ? 

Mr.  TsiTRu.  ;Mr.  Koichi 

Mr.  Morris.  I  think  he  was  arrested  in  the  Sorge  espionage  case  in 
Japan. 

Mr.  TsTTRTT.  That  I  don't  know.  Koichi,  I  think  his  name,  his  first 
name  is.    I  met  him  probably 

Mr.  Morris.  He  is  active  in  the  postwar  IPE  ? 


SCOPE    OF    SOVIET    ACTIVITY    IN    THE    UNITED    STATES       3749 

Mr.  TsuRU.  I  think  lie  was  in  and  out  but  at  least  at  one  time  his 
name  was  definitely  on  it. 

Mr.  Morris.  But  you  don't  know  him  well  ? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  I  don't  know  him  well. 

Mr.  Morris.  Did  you  know  a  man  named  Mark  Nathan  Eosenfeld 
from  Spencerville,  Md.  '^ 

Mr.  TsuRU.  Yes,  he  was  one  of  the  superiors.  One  of  the  superiors 
when  I  was  in  the  Economics  and  Scientific  Section  in  SCAP. 

Mr.  Morris.  He  isn't  one  that  recruited  you  for  service  in  the 
Economics  Section  ? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  No,  Mr.  Morris,  the  way  I  was  recruited  was,  I  was 
a  permanent  Government  official  in  the  foreign  office  with  permanent 
status.  My  superior  was  Mr.  Shigeru  Yoshida  and  I  believe  it  was 
some  time  in  February  1946,  he  called  me  to  his  office,  I  was  in  one 
of  the  bureaus  of  the  foreign  office  at  the  time  and  he  told  me  SCAP 
would  like  to  have  a  Japanese  expert  to  help  them  on  some  Japanese 
matters.  And  he  suggested:  "now  you  are  well  versed  with  the 
English  language.  You  know  some  American  people.  And  also  you 
are  an  economist  although  you  are  working  in  the  foreign  office  now, 
why  don't  you  go  there.*'  And  I  said,  "Well,  if  the  Minister  sug- 
gests that  I  should  go,  I  shall  be  glad  to  do  so,"  and  it  was  an  entirely 
official  transfer,  so  my  status  even  while  I  was  in  SCAP  was  a  foreign 
officer's,  sort  of  on  lend-lease  agreement  or  arrangement  to  the  SCAP. 
And  I  was  assigned  to  the  Eesearch  and  Statistics  Division  where 
Mr.  Rosenf  eld  was  one  of  my  superiors. 

Mr.  Morris.  Now,  did  you  bring  in  Mr.  Takahashi  ? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  Professor  Masao  Takahashi.  I  think  it  is  correct  to 
say  I  was  instrumental  in  bringing  Takahashi  into  the  office. 

Mr.  Morris.  Would  you  say  the  same  of  Mr.  Jiro  Ando? 

]Mr.  TsuRU.  In  this  case  I  am  pretty  certain  by  that  time — may  be 
Professor  Takahashi  came  in  almost  immediately  after  I  came  in 
upon  my  suggestion,  and  then  in  the  Eesearch  and  Statistical  Divi- 
sion, we"^  were  told  by  the  superiors — I  think,  Mr.  Emerson  Eoss  was 
the  Chief  of  the  Division  at  the  time — that  they  would  like  to  build 
up  a  fairly  large  corps  of  Japanese  experts  and  Japanese  statisticians, 
helpers,  and  so  forth. 

And  at  the  time  there  were  only  3  or  4  of  us.  So  we  Japanese  sat 
together  and  wanted  to  regularize  the  method  instead  of  just  picking 
up  any  one  certain  person,  we  wanted  to  have  a  sort  of  regulatory 
process  of  selection  on  the  basis  of  competence,  qualifications,  and  so 
forth.  So  I  believe  after  JSIr.  Takahashi  came  in,  about  four  of  us 
Japanese  w^ho  were  there,  with  consultation  of  the  Japanese  consultant 
in  the  personnel  office  in  the  Eesearch  and  Statistics  Division,  we  used 
to  interview  a  large  number  of  people  together.  And  I  think  Mr. 
Ando  was  brought  in  as  one  of  them. 

INIr.  jSIorris.  Had  he  a  record  of  being  a  Communist,  do  you  know  ? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  Well,  at  the  time  we  examined  him,  there  was  no  such 
record.  But  after  he  was  in  the  office  for  a  while,  I  soon  got  the 
impression  that  he  had  strongly  leftwing  tendencies,  so  I  felt  it  was 
my  responsibility  as  one  of  the  senior  experts  in  the  Division  to  ad- 
vise him  to  resign.  How  he  resigned  I  am  not  quite  aware,  but  I 
think  he  either  resigned  or  was  ousted  or  I  don't  know,  anyway  he 
left  the  office  after  a  while. 


3750       SCOPE    OF    SOVIET   ACTIVITY   IN    THE    UNITED    STATES 

Mr.  Morris.  Was  Mr.  Phillip  O.  Keeney,  in  the  office? 

Mr,  TsuRU.  I  do  not  know  the  name. 

Mr.  Morris.  Yon  knew  Solomon  Adler? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  No,  sir,  I  have  never  known  him. 

Mr.  Morris.  You  haven't  met  Solomon  Adler  in  Japan  ? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  No,  I  have  not. 

Mr.  Morris.  You  know  the  man  to  whom  I  refer.  He  is  one  of 
the  people  who  is  publishing  a  book  we  mentioned  yesterday. 

Mr.  TsuRU.  Yes,  I  recall  the  name,  but  I  don't  know  him. 

Mr.  Morris.  How  about  a  man  named  Theodore  Cohen  ? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  Theodore  Cohen. 

Mr.  Morris.  In  Japan,  an  American. 

Mr.  TsuRU.  Oh,  now  I  recall.  He  was  one  of  the  senior  members, 
I  believe,  of  the  Economics  and  Scientific  Section  of  the  SCAP  in 
the  immediate  postwar  period  in  charge  at  first  of  labor  problems. 

Mr.  Morris.  And  you  met  him? 

]\Ir.  TsuRU.  I  knew  him  in  my — more  in  my  official  capacity  as  vice 
minister  of  Economics  Stabilization  Board  during  the  period  1947  and 
1948  and  I  had  to  deal  with  him  on  various  matters. 

Mr.  Morris,  Now  in  1952,  you  were  invited  to  attend  a  world  peace 
council  in  Moscow,  were  you  not  ? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  1952— yes,  I  was  not  invited,  but  I  received  a  letter 
from  Mr.  Oscar  Lange. 

Mr.  Morris.  Mr.  Oscar  Lange  ? 

Mr.  TsuRu.  Yes. 

Mr.  Morris,  He  was  then  a  Polish  Communist  official  ? 

Mr,  TsuRu,  Well,  I  understood  him  to  be  at  first  Polish  Ambassador 
to  the  United  States  and  then  chief  delegate  to  the  United  Nations 
from  Poland  and  then  I  understood  him  to  have  gone  back  to  Poland 
but  at  the  time  I  understood  him  to  belong  to  United  Workers  Party 
in  Poland,  which  is  a  coalition  of  various  parties  and  I  understood 
him  to  be  not  in  good  favor  of  the  Communist  Central, 

Mr,  Morris.  Mr.  Bialer  who  was  one  of  the  high  officials  of  the 
Communist  Poland  Party,  who  defected  in  1956,  told  us  that  Mr, 
Lange  had  become  a  full-fledged  member  of  the  Communist  Party 
and,  when  we  last  heard,  he  was  in  India  on  a  mission  for  the  Polish 
Government. 

Mr.  TstTRLT.  I  received  a  letter  from  Mr,  Oscar  Lange  suggesting  if 
I  would  not  come  and  attend  Moscow  economics  conferences  and  I 
answered  him,  I  think  it  was  in  1952,  and  said,  "I  personally  would  not 
be  able  to  do  so,"  I  did  not  give  any  reason  but  I  declined.  So  I  never 
received  an  invitation,  I  know  a  number  of  persons  who  received  in- 
vitations and  I  saw  the  type  of  letters  which  were  received  by  them, 
but  the  only  thing  I  received  was  a  letter  from  IMr,  Lange,  I  suppose, 
trying  to  sound  out  if  I  would  be  able  to  come  and  I  answered  him  I 
would  not  be  able  to  come, 

Mr,  Morris.  Had  the  Japanese  Government  said  you  would  not  be 
able  to  go  ? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  No,  not  for  such  reasons,  but  I  personally  did  not  like  to 
go  to  this  Moscow  conference  at  the  time. 

Mr.  Morris.  Didn't  the  Japanese  Government  forbid  you  to  go  ? 

Mr.  TsTJRU,  The  Japanese  Government  never  entered  into  this  mat- 
ter so  far  as  I  was  concerned. 


SCOPE    OF    SOVIET   ACTIVITY   IN    THE    UNITED    STATES       3751 

Mr.  Morris.  In  order  to  go  there  you  would  have  to  have  a  passport 
issued  to  you  ? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  Passport  according  to  the  Japanese  law  can  be  issued 
with  a  certain  destination  and  you  could  go  to  a  country  which  is  not 
included  in  the  destination  if  you — I  believe— if  you  get  clearance 
from  the  consulate  and  then  visas  from  the  countries,  but  since  Russia, 
at  the  time,  was  not  a  country  with  which  Japan  had  diplomatic  rela- 
tions, Japan  considered  the  travel  towards  Moscow  or  Soviet  Union 
to  be  not  a  favorable  thing  for  one  to  do.  And  I  believe  persons  who 
went  to  Moscow  at  the  time  actually  broke  the  passport  law.  But  it 
just  happened  that  the  passport  law  had  no  punishment  clause  on  that 
score,  so  they  could  not  be  punished  legally. 

Now,  I  suppose  the  Japanese  Government  is  trying  to  amend  it, 
but  that  is  the  incidental  knowledge  I  have  on  the  subject. 

Mr.  Morris.  And  you  have  been  to  Moscow  for  the  foreign  office? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  I  was  in  Moscow  as  a  member  of  the  foreign  office  in 
April  1945. 

Mr.  Morris.  What  was  the  nature  of  that  assignment,  if  it  is  ap- 
propriate for  me  to  ask. 

Mr.  TsuRU.  I  think  it  is  quite  all  right  for  me  to  say  now,  even  with- 
out consulting  the  Japanese  Embassy, 

Mr.  Morris.  I  mean  if  you  feel  there  is  any 

Mr.  TsuRU.  I  feel  it  is  quite  all  right.  I  was  what  they  call  dip- 
lomatic courier  carrying  various  messages,  documents,  materals,  goods 
in  suitcases,— I  am  just  given  the  duty  of  carrying  it  safely  to  Moscow. 
And  then  there  were  3  important  posts  in  Russia  at  that  time,  and  I 
stopped  at  each  1  of  these  places  to  deliver  these  things,  included  Mos- 
cow with  the  other  towns  and  the  responsible  officer  will  again  fill  the 
suitcases  and  then  I  could  go  back.    That  is  what  the  purpose  was. 

Mr.  Morris.  And  did  you  just  make  one  trip,  Mr.  Tsuru  ? 

Mr.  Tsuru.  Just  one  trip. 

Mr.  Morris.  Mr.  Chairman,  I  have  no  more  questions  of  this  wit- 
ness. 

Now,  I  think,  however,  you  did  not,  obtain  that  volume — you  know, 
the  reference  to  Kaiso  ? 

Mr.  Tsuru.  No,  I  am  sorry. 

Mr.  Morris.  We  have  been  trying  to  get  it,  now  Mr.  Mandel  has 
tried  to  get  it.  Senator,  from  the  Library  of  Congress. 

Mr.  INIandel.  I  have  not  yet  received  it. 

Mr.  Tsuru.  Well,  Mr.  Chairman,  I  shall  be  quite  happy  to  cooperate 
with  the  committee  in  obtaining  a  copy,  if  I  can,  in  this  country, 
and  sending  it  to  you. 

Senator  Jenner.  All  right. 

Mr.  Morris.  And  you  also  have  written  for  American  periodicals 
from  time  to  time,  have  you  not  ?  For  instance  I  refer  to  an  article 
of  yours  in  the  Atlantic  Monthly  in  January  1955,  and  an  article  in  the 
American  Academy  of  Policy  and  Sociology  of  1956. 

Mr.  Tsuru.  Yes,  I  have. 

Senator  Jenner.  Anything  further  ? 

Mr.  Morris.  Mr.  Chairman,  I  have  no  more  questions  except  as  I  say, 
the  subpenas  have  been  issued  for  Mr.  Niebyl  and  Constance  Kyle  and 
we  hope  they  may  be  able  to  give  us  further  information. 

Mr.  Sourwine  may  have  a  few  questions. 


3752       SCOPE    OF    SOVIET    ACTIVITY    IN    THE    UNITED    STATES 

Senator  Jenner.  Do  you  have  any  questions,  Mr.  Sourwine? 
Mr.  SouEwiNE,  Is  this  a  proper  time  for  it  ? 

Senator  Jenner.  Well,  there  will  be  no  hearing  this  afternoon. 
We  would  like  to  finish  with  this  witness  if  we  can.     It  is  the  witness' 
desire  to  finish  completely  the  testimony. 
Mr.  Sourwine.  In  your  letter  of  August  31,  1936  you  referred  to — 

Mr.  Korb 

Can  you  identify  any  of  tlie  members  of  that  group  referred  to  in 
that  letter? 

Mr.  TsuRu.  I  can  now  recall  the  name,  Mr.  Korb,  but  I  do  not 
recall  anyone  in  the  group. 

Mr.  Sourwine.  Which  Mr.  Korb  was  that  ? 
Mr.  TsuRU.  I  don't  remember  his  first  name. 

Mr.  Sourwine.  You  referred  to  the  Lunning  group  which  arose 
among  the  members  of  the  law  school.     Which  Mr.  Lunning  was  that  ? 
Mr.  TsuRU.  I  believe  his  first  name  was  Jus. 

Mr.  Sourwine.  Can  you  identify  any  of  the  members  of  that  group  ? 
Mr.  TsuRU.  Well,  Mr.  Sourwine,  I  had  the  knowledge  of  these 

groups,  but  I  did  not  necessarily 

Mr.  Sourwine.  I  am  not  arguing  with  you.  Just  asking,  if  you 
don't  recall,  just  say  so. 

Mr.  TsuRU.  I  am  sorry,  I  don't  recall  any  names. 
Mr.  Sourwine.  You  referred  to  a  study  group  on  Marxism.     Can 
you  recall  any  of  the  members  of  that  group  ? 

Mr.  Tsuru.  Here  I  think  names  I  originally  did  not  recall,  but 
after  reading  through  these  letters,  the  names  of  John  Cookson  and 
Herman  Eamras,  those  names  came  back  to  my  mind  and  I  believe  they 
were  connected  with  the  study  group  in  Madison. 

Mr.  Sourwine.  You  referred  to  the  group  on  dialectic  materialism 
in  Cambridge.     Can  you  identify  that  group  any  better  ? 

Mr.  Tsuru.  I  think,  now  here  again  I  am  mentioning  the  groups  but 
I  am  not  necessarily  a  member  of  the  groups.  I  think  William  Parry, 
Louis  Harap. 

Mr.  Sourwine.  That  is  H-a-r-a-p  ? 

Mr.  Tsuru.  Yes.     And  although  I  am  not  quite  certain,  so  if  you 
permit  me  to  answer  with  some  degree  of  doubt,  I  shall  mention  an- 
otlier  name.     Shall  I  or  not  ? 
Mr.  Sourw^ine.  Go  ahead. 

Mr.  Tsuru.  With  that  proviso  I  would  say  Mr.  Leo  Koberts. 
Mr.  Sourwine.  Who  was  he  ? 

Mr.  Tsuru.  He  was,  I  would  characterize  him  as  a  perennial  student 
of  philosophy.     He  never  seems  to  complete  his  book. 
Mr.  Sourwine.  Where  is  he  now  ? 
Mr.  Tsuru.  I  think  he  is  in  Cambridge. 

Mr.  Sourwine.  In  this  same  letter  you  refer  to  discussions  you  had 
with  the  staff  of  the  school,  that  school  was  the  University  of  Chicago, 
was  it  not? 

Mr.  Tsuru.  Which  page  may  I  ask  ? 

Mr.  Sourwine.  Page  2  of  the  mimeographed  copy  down  at  the 
bottom.     It  is  the  third  line  from  the  bottom. 

Mr.  Tsuru.  Oh.  I  said  I  should  try  to  discuss  with  the  staff  of 
the  school. 

Mr.  Sourwine.  Yes. 

Mr.  Tsuru.  So  far  as  my  recollection  goes,  I  never  did  because  in 
Chicago 


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Mr.  SouRWiNE.  You  were  talking  about  the  Univei-sity  of  Chicago, 
were  you  not  ? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  SouRWiNE.  When  was  it  that  you  had  intended  to  discuss  that 
matter  with  the  staff  of  the  school  ? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  By  which  I  meant  to  discuss  with  Mr.  Niebyl  in  the 
first  instance  and  then  on  this  question  ask  Mr.  Niebyl  to  get  in  con- 
tact with  the  school. 

Mr.  SoLTRWiXE.  All  right,  now  on  the  next  page  of  that  letter,  you 
speak  of  the  agent  in  Chicago,   Who  was  that  ? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  Well,  here  probably  my  inadequate  language  was  mis- 
leading. What  I  meant,  I  think,  was  the  question  of  Science  and  So- 
ciety, whoever  was  willing,  the  person  or  persons  whoever  were  will- 
ing'to  take  the  responsibility  of  promoting  Science  and  Society. 

Mr.  SouR^viNE.  You  did  not  have  in  mind  any  particular  individual  ? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  No,  I  did  not. 

Mr.  SouRwiNE.  In  your  letter  of  September  6 — I  have  no  more 
questions. 

Senator  Jenner.  I  have  to  leave.  The  committee  will  just  stand 
in  recess,  and  the  continuation  of  these  questions  will  be  after  lunch, 
whatever  time  you  say. 

Mr.  SouRwiNE.  That  is  why  I  was  inquiring  whether  you  were  able 
to  continue. 

Senator  Jenner.  I  can  go  on  5  or  10  minutes  and  you  can  continue. 

Mr.  SouRWiNE.  It  is  at  the  Senator's  convenience. 

Senator  Jenner.  Do  you  want  to  do  it  this  afternoon  or  how  long 
would  it  take  you  this  morning  ? 

Mr.  SouRwiNE.  Well,  we  can  go  ahead  then. 

I  would  like  to  finish  to  accommodate  the  witness. 

Mr.  SouRWiNE.  Referring  to  the  letter  of  September  6,  to  you,  the 
fourth  line  from  the  top  on  the  first  page,  there  was  a  sentence  men- 
tioning— who  was  that  ? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  That  is  Mr.  Kenneth  Howard. 

Mr.  SouRwiNE.  All  right.  Now,  referring  to  the  second  page  of 
that  letter  as  mimeographed,  in  the  second  paragraph  on  that  page, 
the  bottom  line  there  is  a  Bernal.    Can  you  identify  that  individual? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  This  letter  was  written  by  Mr.  Parry  and  I  presumed 
him  to  mean  a  Doctor  Bernal  of  Cambridge,  whom  I  do  not  know. 

Mr.  SouRWiNE.  Now,  looking  at  the  letter  of  September  14,  the  sec- 
ond paragraph,  you  say,  "We  called  a  meeting  in  Cambridge."  Who 
was  the  "we"  referred  to  there  ? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  Oh,  I  think  I  do  not  recall  all  the  names,  but  at  least 
Mr.  Parry  and  Mr.  Hanap  were  there. 

Mr.  SouRwiNE.  Thank  you.  Now  in  the  letter  of  January  13,  to 
Karl-Heinrich,  in  the  third  paragraph,  the  second  line,  you  will  jEind 
the  name  Webbs.    What  person  or  persons  are  referred  to  there? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  I  think  this — from  internal  evidence  I  would  say  I 
consider  Sidney  and  Beatrice  Webb  of  England. 

Mr.  SouRwiNE.  Now,  if  you  will  look  at  the  letter  of  February  2, 
1937,  to  Karl-Heinrich. 

Mr.  TsuRU.  Excuse  me  just  a  minute  please.    Oh,  yes. 

Mr.  SoupaviNE.  The  second  paragraph,  the  second  line  you  will  see 
the  name  Burgum.    Have  you  identified  that  individual? 


3754       SCOPE    OF    SOVIET   ACTIVITY   IN    THE    UNITED    STATES 

Mr.  TsuRU.  Oh.  Burgum.  I  think  he  was  one  of  the  editors  of 
Science  and  Society  from  the  beginning  and  I  saw  him,  I  believe,  for 
the  first  time  on  this  occasion  when  he  came  to  Boston. 

Mr.  SoTjRwiNE.  Do  yon  recall  his  full  name  ? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  I  am  sorry,  I  do  not  know  his  first  name. 

Mr.  SouRwiNE.  Now,  on  that  same  page,  do  you  see  the  name, 
Struik? 

Mr.TsuRtr.  Yes. 

Mr.  SouRwiNE.  Does  that  refer  to  Prof.  Dirk  Struik  ? 

(No  answer.) 

Mr.  SouRwiNE.  On  the  third  page  of  that  letter  you  will  see  the 
reference  to  the  editors  of  Science  and  Society  being  terrifically  busy 
on  other  duties  of  theirs  in  the  fight  against  Trotskyists.  Did  you  refer 
to  duties  as  Communists  ? 

Mr.  TsuRu.  I  believe  I  was  relating  the  information  from  Mr.  Parry. 

Mr.  SouRwiNE.  You  were  distinguishing  between  duties  as  Commu- 
nists from  duties  as  editors  ? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  I  was  relating  to  Mr.  Parry's  words  and  when  he  said, 
"Did  you  fight  against  Trotskyists,"  I  was  repeating. 

Mr.  SouRwiNE.  You  were  complaining  that  their  Communist  duties 
were  interfering  with  what  you  understood  to  be  their  duties  as 
editors  ? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  Yes ;  that  is  more  or  less  the  case. 

Mr.  SouRWiNE.  Now,  look  at  the  letter  from  Constance  Kyle  to  you, 
April  14,  the  first  paragraph.  Look  at  the  third  and  fourth  lines  from 
the  bottom  of  that  paragTaph,  you  will  find  the  phrase,  "Our  own 
people,"  referred  to  twice.    How  did  you  understand  that  phrase? 

Mr.  TsuRu  Well,  I  think  I  interpreted  this  to  mean  that  Miss  Kyle 
was  referring  to  the  Communist  group. 

Mr.  SouRwiNE.  Yes,  sir.  Mr.  Tsuru,  did  you  ever  have  any  acquain- 
tance with  Mr.  Andrew  Both  ? 

Mr.  Tsuru.  No  ;  I  have  not. 

Mr.  SouRwiNE.  Did  you  know  Mr.  Phillip  Jaffe  ? 

Mr.  Tsuru.  I  saw  him,  I  think,  a  couple  of  times  at  IPE. 

Mr.  SouRwiNE.  Do  you  remember  who  introduced  you  ? 

Mr.  TsuRu.  Well,  I  am  not  quite  sure  who  introduced  us.  IPR 
office  at  the  time  was  such  that  people  could  come  around  and  see  each 
other  and  help  each  other  and  say  "Hello,"  and  introduce  each  other. 

Mr.  SouRwiNE.  Did  you  ever  hear  of  the  Japan  Anti-War  League  ? 

Mr.  Tsuru.  Japan  Anti-War  League. 

Mr.  SouRwiNE.  Yes. 

Mr.  Tsuru.  You  are  not  referring  to  the  organization  I  was  attached 
to,  Anti-Imperialism  League,  of  my  student  days  ? 

Mr.  SouRwiNE.  I  didn't  mean  to  make  such  a  reference ;  if  there  was 
a  connection  I  would  be  glad  to  have  you  tell  us. 

Mr.  Tsuru.  I  have  been  telling  about  the  Anti-Imperialism. 

Mr.  SouRwiNE.  I  understand  that,  but  if  there  is  any  connection 
about  the 

Did  you  know  Wataru  Raj,  a  Japanese  by  that  name  ? 

Mr.  Tsuru.  Wataru  Raj. 

Mr.  SouRwiisTE.  Yes. 

Mr.  Tsuru.  Wataru  sounds  like  a  first  name  only.  It  is  most  un- 
likely that  it  is  a  last  name. 

Mr.  SouRwiNE.  It  does  not  sound  like  a  last  name. 


SCOPE    OF    SOVIET   ACTIVITY    IN    THE    UNITED    STATES      3755 

Mr.  TsuRU.  I  don't  think  I  know  anyone  by  that  name. 

Mr.  SouRwiNE.  Did  you  know  of  the  Japanese  Emancipation 
League  ? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  No;  I  did  not. 

Mr.  SouRwiNE.  Did  you  know  Joja  Kiroshi  ? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  Joja  Kiroshi? 

Mr.  SouRAViNE.  J-o-j-aK-i-r-o-s-h-i. 

Mr.  TsuRU.  I  do  not  think  so. 

Mr.  SouRWiNE.  This  Wataru  apparently  had  the  surname  Kiroshi. 

Mr.  TsuRU.  Oh,  no. 

Mr.  SouRwiNE.  Did  you  ever  know  Nozaka  Sazo  ? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  No. 

Mr.  SouRWiNE.  Otherwise  known  as  Susumu  Okano  ? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  Except  I  met  him,  because  you  see  when  I  was  in  the 
government,  I  think  he  came  once  to  protest  something  to  my  office,  I 
know  the  face. 

Mr.  SouRWiNE.  Did  you  know  Emmerson  Eoss  ? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  Mr.  Enmierson  Ross,  the  Chief  of  the  Research  and 
Statistics  Division,  yes.    At  the  time  I  was  in  the  SCAP. 

Mr.  SouRwiNE.  How  well  did  you  know  him  ? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  Only  to  the  extent  of  my  being  subordinated  in  that 
office. 

Mr.  SouRWiNE.  Did  you  know  Mr.  Ross  as  a  head  of  a  group  of 
persons  in  SCAP,  who  advocated  collectivism  and  state  ownership  of 
Japan  industry. 

Mr.  TsuRU.  No ;  I  was  not  aware  of  such  ideas  on  his  part. 

Mr.  SouRwiNE.  Did  you  know  KyuichiTokuda? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  No ;  I  never  knew  him.    Again  I  saw  his  face. 

Mr.  SouRWiNE.  Did  you  know  Yoshio  Shiga  ? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  I  never  knew  him. 

Mr.  SouRwiNE.  Did  you  know  Anthony  Constantino  ?  ^ 

Mr.  TsuRU.  No. 

Mr.  SouRwiNE.  Did  you  know  James  Fitzgerald  ?  ^ 

Mr.  TsuRU.  No ;  I  do  not  think  so. 

Mr.  SouRwiNE.  Did  you  know  Maturos  ? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  I  don't  tliink  so. 

Mr.  SouRWiNE.  Did  you  know  T.  A.  Bisson  ? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  I  knew  him. 

Mr.  SouRwiNE.  Did  you  know  him  in  IPR  or  otherwise  ? 

Mr.  TsuRTJ.  I  knew  him  before  the  war  at  the  IPR  and  then  after  the 
war  I  saw  him  a  number  of  times  when  he  was  comiected  with  the 
SCAP,  Government  Section,  I  believe. 

Mr.  SouRwiNE.  Did  you  know  Miriam  Farley  ? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  I  think  I  met  her  a  few  times  before  the  war. 

Mr.  SouRwiNE.  Did  you  know  Henry  Bremier  ? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  No ;  I  don't  think  so. 

Mr.  SouRw^iNE.  You  knew  Miss  Farley  in  connection  with  IPR  ? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  That  is  right. 

Mr.  SouR\viNE.  Did  you  know  Edward  Christy  Welch  ? 

Mr.  TsuRU.  Edward  Welch. 


1  In  a  letter  to  the  subcommittee  dated  April  27,  1957,  Mr.  Tsuru  said : 

"After  rereading;  tiie  transcript,  I  now  recall  that  I  may  have  met  Messrs.  Constantino 

and  Fitzgerald,  about  whom  I  was  questioned  at  p.  5057  of  the  transcript,  in  Japan  during 

the  period  immediately  following  the  war." 

93215— 57— pt.  57 6 


3756       SCOPE    OF    SOVIET   ACTIVITY   IN    THE    UNITED    STATES 

Mr.  SouRwiNE.  Yes.   "Welch. 

Mr.  TsuRTJ.  Edward  Welch.  Is  he  the  one — may  I  ask  a  question? 
Is  he  the  one  who  was  in  the  SCAP  in  antimonopoly  legislation  ? 

Mr.  SouRwiNE.  He  was  with  the  SCAP. 

Mr.  TsuRu.  Then  I  think  I  met  him  in  my  official  capacity. 

Mr.  SouRwiNE.  Did  you  know  James  Killem  ?  ^ 

Mr.  TsuRu.  James  Killem.   No ;  I  do  not  think  so. 

Mr.  SouRwiNE.  Did  you  know  William  V.  Turnage  ? 

Mr.  TsuRu.  Yes;  he  was  one  of  the  superiors  in  the  Research  and 
Statistics  Division. 

Mr.  SouRwiNE.  Did  you  know  any  of  those  individuals  in  SCAP 
whose  identity  we  have  just  been  discussing  as  Communists  or  pro- 
Communists  ? 

Mr.  TsuRu.  No;  I  was  not  aware  of  any  such  tendencies  among 
these  people. 

Mr.  SouRWiNE.  One  more  question,  Mr.  Chairman. 

If  I  remember  correctly  you  stated  in  your  initial  testimony  you 
would  be  willing  to  give  the  committee  the  names  of  Communists  so 
far  as  you  knew  them  or  had  reason  to  suspect  them.    Have  you  done 


so 


Mr.  TsuRU.  Well,  in  trying  to  answer  every  question  presented  to 
me,  I  have  tried  my  best  to  answer  as  fully  and  truthfully  as  I  could. 

Mr.  SouRwiNE.  Have  you  given  the  committee  the  names  of  all 
the  persons  whom  you  knew  or  had  reason  to  believe  were  Communists  ? 

Mr.  TsTJRU.  As  far  as  I  can  recall ;  yes. 

Mr.  SouRwiNE.  Will  you  be  willing  to  attempt  to  make  a  list  of  all 
such  persons  that  you  can  recall,  and  furnish  the  committee  with  it,  or 
in  the  alternative,  with  a  statement  that  on  second  thought  and  care- 
ful consideration  you  are  unable  to  recall  any  other  individuals  known 
to  you  or  that  you  had  reason  to  believe  were  Communists. 

Mr.  TsTjRu.  Mr.  Chairman.  I  shall  be  willing  to  be  at  your  service  for 
any  further  works  of  the  committee  for  which  I  am  required.  So  that 
if  my  service  in  regard  to  what  Mr.  Sourwine  has  just  indicated  is 
called  for,  I  shall  be  clad  to  be  at  your  service. 

Senator  Jentner.  We  are  trying  to  accommodate  you  and  conclude 
this  hearing.  What  the  committee  is  interested  in  hearing  is  if  you 
have  any  other  people  that  you  know  to  be  Communists  or  pro-Com- 
munists, would  you  submit  them  to  this  committee  by  mail  or  through 
your  attorney  ? 

Mr.  TsuRu.  I  shall  try  my  best  to  recollect  of  my  past  and  try  to 
cooperate  with  the  committee  to  the  best  of  my  ability.^ 

Senator  Jenner.  Thank  you  very  much. 

Anv  further  questions  ?    If  not  the  committee  will  stand  adjourned. 

(Whereupon,  at  2  p.  m.,  the  committee  was  adjourned.) 

» In  a  letter  to  the  subcommitee  dated  April  27, 1957,  Mr.  Tsurn  said  : 
At  p.   5058  of  the  transcript  I  was  nupstloned  by  Mr.  Sonrwine  about  an  Individual 
whose  last  name  he  spelled  "Killem."     If  the  spellinsr  is  "Killen"  rather  than  "Killem" 
I  believe  that  I  met  such  an  individual  a  few  times  in  Tokyo  in  1947  in  my  official  capacity 
as  Vice  Minister  of  Economic  Stabilization." 

)iVl  ^J^ttei"  to  the  subcommittee  dated  April  27, 1957,  Mr.  Tsuru  said  : 

i4.^*v'"''  conclusion  of  the  hearin?  on  March  27  I  was  asked  to  furnish  the  subcommittee 
with  the  names  of  persons  whom  I  know  or  knew  to  be  Communists,  or  whom  I  reasonably 

i}5*'I^T*'^  believed  to  be  Communists,  in  addition  to  those  names  in  such  categories  about 
Which  I  had  been  ouestioned  during  the  course  of  the  hearing.  I  assume  that  the  scope  of 
this  ouestion  is  limited  to  United  States  citizens  and  persons  within  the  United  States  since, 
m  the  course  of  my  duties  as  Vice  Minister  of  Economic  Stabilization  in  Japan.  I  necessarily 
came  m  contact  with  some  Japanese  who  are  known  in  Japan  and  elsewhere  as  members  of 
the  Japanese  Communist  Party.  After  carefnl  consideration  I  find  that  I  cannot  supply 
the  subcommittee  with  any  such  names  simply  because  I  cannot  recall  any." 


SCOPE    OF   SOVIET   ACTIVITT   m   THE    UNITED    STATES      3757 

APPENDIX  I 

The  Intellectuai,  Interchange  Peogbam 

The  America-Japan  intellectual  interchange  program  was  established  in  the 
fall  of  1951  to  enable  Japanese  scholars  and  men  of  learning  to  come  to  the 
United  States  for  limited  periods  of  time  (1)  to  visit  American  universities  and 
other  institutions  in  which  they  might  be  interested,  and  (2)  to  serve  as  visiting 
lecturers  and  conduct  research  in  American  institutions  of  higher  learning. 
Under  the  other  part  of  the  interchange  program,  American  scholars  and  men 
of  learning  visit  Japan. 

To  administer  the  program  two  committees  were  established  by  Columbia 
University :  One  in  Japan  and  the  other  in  the  United  States.  Dr.  Yasaka  Takagi, 
professor  emeritus  of  American  constitutional  law  at  Toyko  University,  is 
chairman  of  the  Japan  committee.  Others  associated  with  him  are  Mr.  Gordon 
T.  Bowles,  Mr.  Shigeharu  Matsumoto,  Dr.  Arao  Imamura,  Miss  Tano  Jodai, 
Prof.  Naoto  Kameyama,  Dr.  Shinzo  Koizumi,  Mr.  Saburo  Matsukata,  Mr, 
Tamon  Maeda,  Miss  Kiyoko  Takeda,  and  Mrs.  Matsu  Tsuji. 

The  American  committee  is  headed  by  Dr.  Hugh  Borton,  professor  of  Jap- 
anese and  director  of  the  East  Asian  Institute  at  Columbia  University.  His 
committee  colleagues  include  Dr.  Charles  W.  Cole,  president  of  Amherst  Col- 
lege; Prof.  Peter  Odegard,  chairman,  department  of  political  science  at  the 
University  of  California;  Dr.  Oliver  Carmichael,  former  president  of  the  Uni- 
versity of  Alabama ;  Dr.  Merle  Curti,  professor  of  history  at  the  University  of 
Wisconsin ;  Dr.  Edwin  Reischauer,  professor  of  Japanese  at  Harvard ;  Dr. 
Frederick  S.  Dunn,  director  of  international  studies  at  Princeton  University; 
Mr.  Norman  Cousins,  editor  of  the  Saturday  Review;  Prof.  John  Orchard  of 
the  department  of  geography  at  Columbia  University;  and  Profs.  Carrington 
Goodrich  and  William  T.  DeBary  of  the  department  of  Chinese  at  Columbia  Uni- 
versity. Harry  J.  Carman,  dean  emeritus  of  Columbia  College  and  Moore  pro- 
fessor of  history  at  Columbia  University,  is  executive  secretary  of  the  program. 
Each  committee  furnishes  nominees  for  the  consideration  of  the  other.  The 
Japanese  who  have  come  to  the  United  States  are  : 

Miss  Fusae  Ichikawa,  president  of  Japan's  League  of  Women  Voters, 
1952-53. 

Dr.  Yoshishige  Abe,  president  of  Peers  College,  Tokyo,  1952-53. 

Dr.  Hitoshi  Kihara,  geneticist,  Kyoto  University,  1953. 

Mr.  Yoshiro  Nagayo,  writer,  1953. 

Prof.  Iwao  Ayusawa,  International  Christian  University,  Tokyo,  1955-56. 

Prof.  Seiichi  Tobata,  Tokyo  University,  1955. 

President  Ichiro  Nakayama,  Hitotsubashi  University,  1955. 

Mr.  Nyozekan  Hasegawa,  journalist  and  writer,  1956. 

Dr.  Shinzo  Kaji,  Tokyo  University,  1956. 

Miss  Tano  Jodai,  president.  Women's  College  of  Tokyo,  1956. 

Dr.  Shigeto  Tsuru,  Hitotsubashi  University,  1956-57. 
The  Americans  who  have  gone  to  Japan  are : 

Dr.  Charles  W.  Cole,  president,  Amherst  College,  1953. 

Father  Martin  D'Arcy,  Campion  College,  Oxford,  England,  1953. 

Mrs.  Eleanor  Roosevelt,  New  York,  1953. 

Father  George  B.  Ford,  pastor,  Corpus  Christi  Church,  New  York,  N.  Y., 
1953. 

Norman  Cousins,  editor,  Saturday  Review,  1953. 

Shannon  McCune,  Colgate  University,  1953-54. 

Harry  J.  Carman,  Columbia  University,  1954. 

Willard  Thorp,  Amherst  College,  1955. 

Algo  Henderson,  University  of  Michigan,  1956. 

Ralph  Turner,  Yale  University,  1957. 
The  program  was  made  possible  by  gifts  from  John  D.  Rockefeller  III,  to 
Columbia  University  which  has  full  responsibility  for  the  administration  of  the 
program. 


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THURSDAY,   APRIL  4,    1957 

United  States  Senate, 
Subcommittee  To  Investigate 
the  Administration  or  the  Internal  Security  Act 

and  Other  Internal  Security  Laws, 

OF  the  Committee  on  the  Judiciary, 

W  ashing  ton,  D.C. 

The  subcommittee  met,  pursuant  to  notice  at  12:35  p.  m.  in  room 
424,  Senate  Office  Building,  Senator  Roman  L.  Hruska,  presiding. 

Also  present:  Robert  Morris,  chief  counsel;  William  A.  Rusher, 
associate  counsel;  Benjamin  Mandel,  research  director;  and  Robert  C. 
McManus,  investigations  analyst. 

Senator  Hruska.  The  committee  will  come  to  order  and.  Judge 
Morris,  have  you  any  preliminary  statement  ? 

Mr.  Morris.  Yes.  Senator,  the  hearing  today  is  an  outgrowth  of 
the  hearing  that  we  had  last  week  when  Tsuru,  a  Japanese  national 
now  a  professor  at  Harvard  University,  testified.  Mr.  Tsuru  was  sub- 
penaed  by  the  United  States  Senate  Internal  Security  Subcommittee 
when  we  came  into  possession  of  certain  papers  which  Mr.  Tsuru  left 
behind  when  he  was  repatriated  in  1942.  These  papers  cast  consider- 
able light  on  Communist  operations  in  the  United  States  which  had 
as  their  object,  the  communization  of  some  of  our  most  distinguished 
universities.  Specifically,  it  had  to  do  with  a  publication  called 
Science  and  Society  which  is  a  JNIarxist  quarterly  which  is  even  now 
printed  and  circulated  among  our  universities  of  the  United  States. 
For  instance,  at  this  hearing  one  of  the  papers  professed  to  be  and 
purported  to  be  a  memorandum  which  was  obviously  a  Communist 
memorandum  directed  to  the  Communist  faction  of  the  board  of 
editors  of  Science  and  Society. 

When  Mr.  Tsuru  testified  he  acknowledged  that  the  papers  were 
his,  that  he  had  left  them  behind,  and  he  acknowledged  many  of  the 
facts  that  were  represented  in  the  papers. 

In  connection  with  this,  an  important  individual  in  connection  with 
this  particular  activity  was  Karl  H.  Niebyl  who  is  the  witness  here 
today.  ]Mr.  Niebyl  has  been  asked  to  amplify  on  the  testimony  of 
Mr.  Tsuru  and  the  papers  that  Mr,  Tsuru  left  behind.  Mr.  Niebyl, 
will  you  come  forward,  please? 

Senator  Hruska.  Will  you  be  sworn,  please?  Do  you  solemnly 
swear  the  testimony  that  you  are  about  to  give  will  be  the  truth,  the 
whole  truth,  and  nothing  but  the  truth,  so  help  you  God  ? 

Mr.  Niebyl.  I  do. 

3759 


3760       SCOPE    OF    SOVIET   ACTIVITY    IN    THE    UNITED    STATES 

TESTIMONY  OF  KARL  H.  NIEBYL,  ACCOMPANIED  BY  DAVID  REIN, 

HIS  ATTORNEY 

Mr.  Morris.  Will  you  give  your  name  and  address  to  the  shorthand 
reporter  ? 
Mr.  NiEBYL.  Niebyl,  N-i-e-b-y-1.   Karl  H. 
Mr.  Morris.  Karl  H.  Niebyl. 
Mr.  Niebyl.  185  Jules  Drive,  New  York  City. 
Mr.  Morris.  Now,  Professor  Niebyl,  what  is  your  present  business 
or  profession? 

Mr.  Niebyl.  I  feel  that  under  the  circumstances  I  must  invoke 
the  protection  of  the  fifth  amendment. 

Mr.  MoRPJs.  You  mean  you   cannot  tell  us   what  your  present 
business  or  profession  is  lest  you  would  be  surrendering  your  rights 
under  the  fifth  amendment? 
Mr.  Niebyl.  That  is  correct. 

Mr.  Morris.  And  you  will  not  tell  us  now  what  you  are  doing? 
Mr.  Niebyl.  That  is  correct. 

Mr.  Morris.  Well,  are  you  now  a  Communist,  Professor  Niebyl? 
Mr.  Niebyl.  The  answer  to  that  is,  under  the  protection  of  the 
fifth  amendment. 

Mr.  Morris.  Well,  Senator,  in  view  of  the  witness'  reluctance  to 
tell  us  what  he  is  now  doing,  I  would  like  to  read  to  him  a  biogra- 
phical sketch  from  the  American  Men  of  Science. 

I  will  ask  you  point  by  point  whether  these  facts  are  in  truth 
correct. 

Mr.  Eein.  David  Eein,  711  14th  Street  NW.,  Washington,  D.  C. 
I  wonder  if  we  could  have  the  pictures  taken  and  dispensed  with, 
rather  than  have  this  constant  interruption  ? 

Senator  Hruska.  That  would  be  well.  We  will  give  you  gentle- 
men a  brief  time  in  which  to  get  that  done.  We  are  for  you  and 
we  want  you  to  get  proper  photographic  records  but  we  do  not  want 
this  hearing  interfered  with  unduly. 

Mr.  Morris. "Were  you  born  on  June  30,  1936,  in  Czechoslovakia? 
Mr.  Niebyl.  In  Prague. 

Mr.  Morris.  In  Prague.     Did  you  attend  the  Institute  of  Tech- 
nology in  Hanover,  Germany,  in  1923-24? 
Mr.  Niebyl.  That  is  correct. 

Mr.  Morris.  Did  you  attend  the  University  of  Paris,  1929-30? 
Mr.  Niebyl.  That  is  correct.     May  I  say  that  the  dates  I  would 
have  to  check  but  it  is  correct  that  I  attended  the  University  of  Paris. 
Mr.  Morris.  I  am  reading  from  the  American  Men  of  Science. 
Mr.  Niebyl.  I  am  sure  that  is  correct. 

Mr.  Morris.  Did  you  attend  the  University  of  Frankfurt,  Germany, 
in  1932  ? 

Mr.  Niebyl.  Correct. 

Mr.  Morris.  Did  you  attend  the  London  School  of  Economics  1932- 
34? 

Mr.  Niebyl.  That  is  correct. 

Mr.  Morris.  Were  you  a  fellow  at  Wisconsin  University,  1934-35  ? 
Mr.  Niebyl.  Correct. 

Mr.  Morris.  Did  you  obtain  your  doctor  of  philosophy  degree  from 
the  University  of  Wisconsin  in  1936  ? 


SCOPE    OF   SOVIET   ACTIVITY   IN    THE    UNITED    STATES      3761 

Mr.  NiEBYL.  Correct. 

Mr.  Morris.  Now,  have  you  been  a  research  assistant  at  the  Univer- 
sity of  Wisconsin  during  1935  and  1936  ? 

Mr.  NiEBYL.  Correct. 

Mr.  Morris.  Were  you  later  an  instructor  and  an  assistant  professor 
of  economics  at  Carleton  College  in  Minnesota  ? 

Mr.  NiEBYL,.  Correct. 

Mr.  Morris.  From  1936  to  1940.  Were  you  later  adviser  on  mone- 
tary and  fiscal  policies  in  the  Consumer  Division  of  the  OPA  from 
1940  to  1941  ? 

Mr.  NiEBYL.  Correct. 

Mr.  Morris.  Associate  professor  of  economics  and  chairman  of  the 
graduate  department  of  Tulane  University  from  1941  to  1943? 

Mr.  NiEBYL.  That  is  correct. 

Mr.  Morris.  Were  you  a  professor  at  the  University  of  Texas  in 
1946? 

Mr.  NiEBYL.  Correct. 

Mr.  Morris.  Were  you  in  Blackmountain  College,  North  Carolina 
from  1946  to  1947? 

Mr.  NiEBYL.  Correct, 

Mr.  Morris.  Were  you  professor  and  chairman  of  a  department  at 
Champlain  College,  State  University  of  New  York,  1947-53? 

Mr.  NiEBYL.  Correct. 

Mr.  Morris.  That  is  the  State  university  ? 

Mr.  NiEBYL.  Correct. 

Mr.  Morris.  Have  you  been  chairman  of  the  department  of  eco- 
nomics and  business  administration  at  Muskingum  College,  Ohio, 
1953  to  1954? 

Mr.  NiEBYL.  Correct. 

Mr.  Morris.  Do  you  hold  two  positions  at  the  present  time,  one  as 
economic  and  financial  consultant  and  partner  of  Economic  Research 
Associates  since  1954,  and  another  as  lecturer  at  the  New  School  of 
Social  Research,  beginning  in  1956,  New  York  City  ? 

Mr.  NiEBYL.  Yes. 

Mr.  Morris.  Now,  I  noticed  that  in  the  Abraham  Lincoln  School 
catalog,  that  is  the  Abraham  Lincoln  School  which  was  a  Communist 
training  school  in  Chicago.  It  is  no  longer  in  existence  but  was  there 
during  the  war.  In  the  1943  catalog  of  the  Abraham  Lincoln  School 
is  listed  Karl  H.  Niebyl  as  economic  adviser  on  monetary  and  fiscal 
policies  for  the  advisory  commission  to  the  Council  of  National  De- 
fense. 

Now,  did  you  have  that  one  additional  position  ?  I  will  read^  it 
again.  The  question  is,  did  you,  as  was  listed  in  the  Abraham  Lin- 
coln School  catalog,  were  you  the  economic  adviser  on  monetary  and 
fiscal  policies  with  the  advisory  commission  to  the  Council  of  Na- 
tional Defense  ? 

Mr.  Niebyl.  In  the  way  the  question  is  phrased,  I  am  afraid  I  must 
invoke  the  fifth  amendment. 

Mr.  Morris.  Well,  did  you  work  for  the  Council  on  National  De- 
fense at  any  time  ? 

Mr.  Niebyl.  Yes. 

Mr.  Morris.  Would  you  tell  us  what  you  did  for  the  Council  on  Na- 
tional Defense  ? 


3762       SCOPE    OF    SOVIET   ACTIVITY    IN    THE    tTNITED    STATES 

Mr.  NiEBTL.  May  I  say  that  that  is  exactly  the  same  position  that 
you  ah^eady  referred  to  because  the  Consumer  Division  became  part 
of  the  OPA  and  it  was  only  a  very  short  while  that  that  office  was  in 
the  Council  of  National  Defense.  I  advised  the  Committee  on  the 
Council  of  National  Defense. 

Mr.  Morris.  So  you  had  this  one  position  with  OPA  ? 

Mr.  NiEBYL,.  Yes. 

Mr.  Morris,  And  for  a  short  time  that  was  called  the  Advisory 
Commission  to  the  Council  on  National  Defense? 

Mr.  NiEBYL.  That  was  called  the  Consumer  Division  in  the  Ad- 
visory Commission  to  the  Council  of  National  Defense. 

Mr.  Morris.  I  see. 

Mr.  NiEBYL.  It  is  exactly  the  same. 

Mr.  Morris.  I  see.  Now,  did  you  know  a  Japanese  national  by  the 
name  of  Tsuru  Shigetu  ? 

Mr.  NiEBYL.  Yes. 

Mr.  Morris.  Who  was  Tsuru  Shio;etu  ? 

Mr.  NiEBYL.  To  the  best  of  my  knowledge  he  was  a  student.  I  be- 
lieve he  went  to  Lawrence  Collefje.  I  met  him,  I  believe,  at  the  Uni- 
versity of  Wisconsin  and  haven't  seem  him,  I  would  say,  for  about  20 
years. 

Mr.  Morris.  I  see.  Now,  I  offered  to  you  through  your  attorney  a 
memorandum  that  purports  to  be  written — have  you  still  got  it,  Mr. 
Kein? 

Mr.  Reix.  I  have  it. 

Mr.  Morris.  Will  you  look  at  that,  please.  Now  that  is  signed  by — 
will  you  read  the  names  of  the  three  persons  signing  that.  Just  read 
the  names.    It  appears  on  page  12.   Just  read  the  names. 

Mr.  NiEBYL.  Karl  H.  Niebyl. 

Mr.  Morris.  Karl  H.  Niebyl. 

You  were  then  with  the  department  of  economics  at  Carleton  Col- 
lege. Constance  Kyle  at  the  department  of  psychiatry  at  the  Univer- 
sity of  Illinois  and  Alfred  Z.  Lowe. 

Now,  did  you  sign  that  memorandum  ? 

Mr.  NiEBTL.  I  invoke  the  fifth  amendment. 

Mr.  Morris.  You  will  not  tell  us,  but  instead  you  are  invoking  the 
privilege  under  the  fifth  amendment  ? 

Mr.  Niebyl.  Yes. 

Mr.  Morris.  Before  answering  that  question,  have  you  looked  at 
the  memorandum  before  you  answer  that  question  ? 

Mr.  Niebyl.  Briefly,  yes. 

Mr. Morris.  Briefly? 

Mr.  Niebyl.  Briefly. 

Mr.  Morris.  Still  you  want  to  invoke  your  privilege  under  the  fifth 
amendment  ? 

Mr.  Niebyl.  Eight. 

Senator  Hruska.  As  a  matter  of  fact,  you  were  furnished  with  a 
copy  of  this  memorandum  before  the  hearing  started  ? 

Mr.  Niebyl.  Eight. 

Senator  Hruska.  So  you  had  an  opportunity  to  look  at  it  ? 

Mr.  Niebyl.  Briefly. 

Senator  Hruska.  Very  briefly? 

Mr.  Morris.  May  I  look  at  your  copy  ? 

Mr.  Niebyl.  Yes. 


SCOPE    OF    SOVIET   ACTIVITY    EST    THE    UNITED    STATES      3763 

Mr.  NoRRis.  Mr.  Chairman,  Mr.  Tsuru  has  acknowledged  that  the 
signature  here,  Alfred  Z.  Lowe,  was  a  name  that  he,  himself,  used  and 
that  his  name  did  appear  on  this  memorandum. 

To  your  knowledge  did  Constance  Kyle  and  Alfred  Z.  Lowe  join 
with  you  in  the  preparation  of  this  memorandum  ? 

Mr.  NiEBYL.  I  refuse  to  answer  under  the  fifth  amendment. 

Mr.  Morris.  How  much  of  this  memorandum  was  written  by  Con- 
stance Kyle  ? 

Mr.  NiEBYL.  I  refuse  to  answer. 

Mr.  Morris.  Claiming  your  privilege  ? 

Mr.  NiEBYL.  Yes. 

Mr.  Morris.  How  much  of  this  memorandum  was  written  by  Alfred 
Z.  Lowe,  which  was  the  name  Mr.  Tsuru  acknowledged  was  the  one 
he  used  at  this  time  ? 

Mr.  NiEBYL.  I  refuse  to  answer  under  the  fifth  amendment. 

Mr.  Morris.  Well,  Senator,  I  do  not  want  to  labor  this  too  much. 
The  whole  thing  is  in  our  record.  It  has  been  described  as  a  document 
that  is  obviously  the  work  of  a  student  of  an,  an  advanced  student  of 
Communist  propaganda,  advanced  students  of  Communist  dialectics 
and,  as  has  been  described  to  the  subcommittee,  is  obviously  a  person 
with  very  important  experience  in  the  Agitprop  portion  of  the  party. 

Were  you  a  Communist  at  the  date  this  memorandum  was  written, 
roughly  1937  ? 

Mr.  NiEBYL.  I  refuse  to  answer. 

Mr.  Morris.  Had  you  any  Communist  training  at  the  time  this 
memorandum  was  prepared  ? 

Mr.  NiEBYL.  I  refuse  to  answer. 

Mr.  Morris.  Had  you  attended  the  Chicago  Workers  School  ? 

Mr.  NiEBYL.  I  refuse  to  answer. 

Senator  Hruska.  On  what  grounds  ? 

Mr.  NiEBYL.  Based  on  the  fifth  amendment. 

Senator  Hruska.  Does  that  apply  to  all  of  these  refusals  ? 

Mr.  NiEBYL.  Yes,  sir. 

Senator  Hruska.  I  just  wanted  the  record  to  so  show. 

Mr,  Morris.  Were  you  a  Communist  when  you  attended  the  Uni- 
versity of  Berlin  in  1930  ? 

Mr.  NiEBYL.  I  refuse  to  answer. 

Mr.  Morris.  Were  you  a  Communist  when  you  were  at  the  London 
School  of  Economics  in  1932  to  1934  ? 

Mr.  NiEBYL.  I  refuse  to  answer. 

Mr.  Morris.  While  you  were  in  England  did  you  meet  a  man  who 
testified  before  this  subcommittee  a  tew  weeks  ago,  Frank  Meyer? 
He  was  an  American.  It  was  testified  he  was  at  that  time  a  member 
of  the  Communist  Party  and  he  had  a  temporary  assignment  in  Eng- 
land. Now,  did  you,  I  am  asking  you,  did  you  know  Frank  Meyer 
in  England  while  you  were  a  student  at  the  London  School  of  Eco- 
nomics ? 

Mr.  NiEBYL.  The  name  means  nothing  to  me.    I  cannot  recall. 

Mr.  Morris.  You  cannot  recall  Frank  Meyer  ? 

Mr.  NiEBYL.  No. 

Mr,  Morris.  Did  you  know  Frank  Meyer  subsequently  in  Chicago  ? 

Mr.  NiEBYL.  I  do  not  recognize  the  name. 


3764      SCOPE    OF   SOVIET   ACTIVITY   IN   THE   TTNITED    STATES 

Mr.  Morris.  He  is  a  thin  man,  sharp  features,  dark  hair,  active  in 
the  Communist  Party  in  Chicago.  I  mean,  if  he  has  told  us  that  he 
knew  you  as  a  Communist,  you  will  not  contradict  that ;  will  you  ? 

Mr.  NiEBYL.  Well,  if  you  put  the  question  that  way,  then  I  will 
refuse  to  answer  under  the  fifth  amendment. 

Mr.  Morris.  I  am  trying  to  be  fair  with  you.  He  has  told  us  that 
he  knew  you  well  in  Chicago  and  he  knew  you  also  in  England  and 
he  was  then  a  Communist,  active  in  students'  organization  work  for 
the  Communist  Party  and  he  said  you  were  engaged  in  the  same 
activity  as  he  was. 

Now,  I  am  asking  you  if  you  will  deny  that,  or  is  it  your  answer  you 
just  do  not  recall  the  man  or  are  you  going  to  claim  your  privilege? 

Mr.  NiEBYL.  Well,  my  position  is  that  I  do  not  recall  the  man. 

Mr.  Morris.  Were  you  active  in  organizing  Communist  students 
while  you  were  in  England  ? 

Mr.  NiEBTL.  I  refuse  to  answer  under  the  fifth  amendment. 

Mr.  Morris.  There  was  an  organization  at  the  time,  that  Mr.  Meyer 
was  engaged  in,  which  was  organizing  Communist  students  at  the 
various  English  unions.  Did  you  participate  in  any  work  such  as 
that  while  you  were  in  England? 

Mr.  NiEBYL.  I  refuse  to  answer. 

Mr.  Morris.  Now,  were  you  a  Communist  when  you  went  to  the  Uni- 
versity of  Wisconsin  in  1936  ? 

Mr.  NiEBYL.  I  refuse  to  answer. 

Mr.  Morris.  Were  you  a  Communist  when  you  were  research  assist- 
ant at  the  University  of  Wisconsin  in  1935  to  1936  ? 

Mr.  NiEBYL.  I  refuse  to  answer. 

Mr.  Morris.  Were  you  a  Communist  when  you  were  instructor  and 
professor  of  economics  at  Carleton  College,  Minnesota  ? 

Mr.  NiEBYL.  I  refuse  to  answer. 

Mr.  Morris.  Were  you  a  Communist  when  you  were  adviser  on 
monetary  and  fiscal  policies.  Consumer  Division  of  OPA  1940-41  ? 

Mr.  NiEBYL.  I  refuse  to  answer. 

Senator  Hruska.  The  record  will  show  that  in  each  instance  where 
the  witness  refuses  to  answer,  it  is  made  on  the  ground  of  the  fifth 
amendment. 

Mr.  ISIoRRis.  Now  were  you  a  Communist  when  you  were  on  the 
Advisory  Commission  to  the  Council  on  National  Defense? 

Mr.  NiEBYL.  I  refuse  to  answer  under  the  fifth  amendment. 

Mr.  Morris.  Were  you  a  Communist  when  you  were  the  associate 
professor  of  economics  and  chairman  of  the  graduate  department, 
Tulane  University,  in  the  years  1941-43? 

Mr.  NiEBYL.  I  refuse  to  answer  under  the  fifth  amendment. 

Mr.  Morris.  Were  you  a  Communist  when  you  were  a  professor  at 
the  University  of  Texas  in  1946  ? 

Mr.  NiEBYL.  I  refuse  to  answer  on  the  grounds  of  the  fifth  amend- 
ment. 

Mr.  Morris.  Were  you  a  Communist  when  you  were  in  Black  Moun- 
tain College  in  North  Carolina  1946  to  1947? 

Mr.  NiEBYL.  I  refuse  to  answer. 

Mr.  Morris.  Were  you  a  Communist  when  you  were  professor  and 
chairman  of  a  department  at  Champlain  College,  State  university,  New 
York? 

Mr.  NiEBYL.  I  refuse  to  answer  under  the  fifth  amendment. 


SCOPE    OF    SOVIET   ACTIVITY    IN    THE    UNITED    STATES      3765 

Mr.  Morris.  Were  you  at  any  time  asked  by  State  authorities  if  you 
had  been  a  member  of  the  Communist  Party  while  working  at  the 
State  university  in  New  York  ? 

Mr.  NiEBYL.  No. 

Mr.  Morris.  Were  you  a  Communist  when  you  were  chairman  of  the 
department  of  economics  and  business  administration  at  Muskingum 
College  in  Ohio,  1953  to  1954  ? 

Mr.  NiEBYL.  I  refuse  to  answer. 

Mr.  Morris.  Were  you  a  Communist  carrying  on  your  work  since 
1954  for  the  Economic  Historical  Association  in  New  York  City  ? 

Mr.  NiEBYL.  I  refuse  to  answer. 

Mr.  Morris.  Were  you  a  lecturer  in  the  New  School  of  Social  Re- 
search beginning  in  1956  ? 

Mr.  NiEBYL.  I  refuse  to  answer  under  the  fifth  amendment. 

Mr.  Morris.  Now  I  would  like  to  offer  you  a  letter  from  Mr.  Tsuru, 
dated  February  22, 1937,  addressed  to  dear  Karl  H.  Niebyl,  and  there 
he  gives  the  makeup  and  the  constituency  of  8  IMarxist  study  groups 
which,  as  you  will  see  by  the  attendance  here  designated,  the  attendance 
embraced  more  than  100  students,  some  of  whom  obviously  are  profes- 
sors. I  ask  vou  if  you  can  recall  having  received  that  letter  from  Mr. 
Tsuru? 

Mr.  Niebyl.  Under  the  circumstances,  I  must  claim  the  fifth  amend- 
ment. 

Mr.  Morris.  And  you  will  not  tell  us  how  these  groups  were  or- 
ganized ? 

Mr.  Niebyl.  That  is  right. 

Mr.  Morris.  In  connection  with  the  correspondence  of  Mr.  Tsuru 
there  was  mentioned  in  here  with  great  particularity  your  own  name, 
a  woman  named  Constance  Kyle,  and  a  man  named  within  the  party 
who  is  now  a  professor  at  the  University  of  Buffalo  and  these  papers 
go  on  to  say,  and  these  are  all  in  the  record,  that  these  study  groups 
were  used  as  a  vehicle  to  draw  people  into  the  full  organization  of  the 
Communist  Party.  Can  you  tell  us  whether  you  know,  as  a  matter  of 
fact,  the  study  groups  this  letter  addresses  itself  to  were  in  the  process 
of  being  drawn  into  the  Communist  Party  ? 

Mr.  Niebyl.  I  refuse  to  answer  under  the  privilege  of  the  fifth 
amendment. 

Mr.  jMorris.  Now,  Senator,  we  have  here  in  the  record  about  6  or  7 
letters  of  this  nature  together  with  this  memorandum.  I  think  I  can 
assume,  Senator,  in  view  of  the  witness'  responses  so  far  that  he  is  not 
going  to  give  us  any  of  the  information  that  we  would  like  which  ob- 
viously deals  with  this  concentrated  effort  at  the  hands  or  on  the  part 
of  the  Communists  to  organize  study  groups  and  through  these 
methods  to  recruit  for  the  Communist  Party  in  the  United  States. 

So  I  suggest,  in  view  of  the  witness'  responses — I  am  not  being  un- 
fair, am  I? 

Mr.  Eein.  No. 

Mr.  Morris.  I  think  we  can  assume  he  is  not  going  to  answer  the 
questions  on  these. 

Senator  Hruska.  And  we  can  assume,  ]\Ir.  Niebyl  and  Mr.  Counsel, 
if  each  of  those  letters  were  identified  and  referred  to  in  similar  sit- 
uations as  the  first  one  and  the  same  or  similar  questions  asked,  the 
same  privilege  would  be  asserted  ? 

Mr.  Rein.  Speaking  for  the  witness,  I  would  say  "Yes." 


3766       SCOPE    OF    SOVIET   ACTIVITY    IN    THE    UNITED    STATES 

Mr.  NiEBYL.  I  would  say  "Yes." 

^Ir.  Morris.  I  would  like  to  ask  a  few  questions  about  the  Economic 
Research,  Inc. 

Now,  you  are  associated  with  Economic  Research,  Inc.,  are  you 
not? 

Mr.  NiEBYL.  I  claim  the  privilege  in  view  of  the  way  the  question  is 
phrased. 

Mr.  Morris.  I  will  try  to  rephrase  it.  Economic  Research,  Inc.,  is 
listed  in  the  New  York  phone  book  120  Broadway,  New  York,  tele- 
phone Barkley  1-7590. 

Mr.  NiEiiYL.  I  have  no  connection  with  that. 

IMr.  IMoRRis.  You  have  no  connection.  We  have  no  way  of  learning 
except  to  ask  you. 

How  about  the  Economic  Research  Association  ? 

Mr.  NiEBYL.  I  am  invoking  my  privilege  under  the  fifth  amendment. 

Mr.  ]\IoRRis.  Now,  a  paid  ad  in  the  Staten  Island  redbook,  1956  to 
1957,  classification  housing  survey  consultants,  lists  Karl  H.  Neibyl, 
185  Jules  Drive,  telephone  Gibraltar  2-4476.  Now  was  that  your 
listing? 

Mr.  NiEBYL.  I  invoke  the  fifth  amendment. 

^fr.  INIoRRis.  You  will  not  even  tell  us  whether  or  not  this  ad  which 
appeared  in  the  Staten  Island  redbook  listing  you  with  the  address 
that  you  have  given  the  committee,  Gibraltar  2-4476  was  your  number  ? 

Mr.  NiEBYL.  I  must  invoke  the  fifth  amendment. 

Senator  Hruska.  Was  that  listing  inserted  by  you  or  as  a  result  of 
your  efforts  ? 

Mr.  NiEBYL.  I  must  invoke  the  fifth  amendment. 

Senator  Hruska.  Does  that  listing  refer  to  you  ? 

Mr.  NiEBYL.  I  must  refuse  to  answer. 

Mr.  Morris.  Now,  I  am  going  to  ask,  for  the  purposes  of  the  record, 
if  you  will  tell  us  who  your  associates  are  in  Economic  Research  Asso- 
ciation ?    Who  was  associated  with  you  in  that  business  venture? 

]\Ir.  NiEBYL.  I  refuse  to  answer  on  the  ground  of  the  fifth  amend- 
ment. 

Mr.  Morris.  Now,  will  you  tell  us — the  telephone  book  lists  Eliza- 
beth H.  Niebyl  at  185  Jules  Drive  in  Staten  Island  as  a  housing 
economist.    Is  slie  your  wife  ? 

Mr.  Niebyl.  I  must  claim  the  fifth  amendment;  the  privilege  of  the 
fifth  amendment  as  well  as  a  husband-and-wife  relationship  privilege. 

Senator  Hruska.  Are  you  married  ? 

Mr.  Niebyl.  Yes. 

Senator  Hruska.  What  is  your  wife's  name  ? 

Mr.  Niebyl.  Elizabeth. 

Senator  Hruska.  And  where  does  she  live  ? 

Mr.  Niebyl.  At  185  Jules  Drive. 

Senator  Hruska.  Is  she  engaged  in  any  business  or  profession  ? 

Mr.  Niebyl.  I  must  refuse  to  answer  under  the  privilege  of  the 
fifth  amendment  and  the  husband-and-wife  relationship. 

Mr.  Morris.  Did  you  know  a  person  named  Sylvia  Ernstein,  2040 
West  Division  Street,  Chicago  ? 

Mr.  Niebyl.  I  can't  place  her. 

Mr.  Morris.  You  can't  place  her?  Senator,  I  think,  rather  than 
go  through  a  list  of  names  here  in  public  session,  it  would  be  better  if 


SCOPE    OF    SOVIET   ACTIVITY    IN    THE    UNITED    STATES       3767 

we  arrange  some  meeting  at  some  other  time  for  this  particular 
witness.  I  would  like  to  ask,  before  conclusion  of  the  hearing, 
Senator,  that  Mr.  Mandel,  our  research  director,  obtain  the  Govern- 
ment file,  employment  file  of  Mr.  Niebyl  while  he  worked  for  the 
United  States  Government  and,  when  we  do  receive  it,  it  go  into  the 
record  at  this  point. 

Senator  Hruska,  It  will  be  received  into  the  record. 

(The  employment  file  of  Niebj'l  was  marked  "Exhibit  No.  452" 
and  is  as  follows:) 


United  States  Civil  Service  Commission 
bubeatj  of  departmental  operations 

WASHINGTON  25,  D.  C. 
STATEMENT  OF  FEDERAL  SERVICE 


Name:  Niebyl,  Karl  H. 


Date  of  birth:  June  30,  1906. 


Authority  for  original  appointment   (Examination  from  which  appointed  or 
Other  authority — Executive  Order,  Law,  or  other  exemption). 


EfEective  date 

Nature  of  action 

Position,  grade,  salary,  etc. 

8-29-40 

9-15-41.   . 

Temporary  Appointment   (Section 
2,  Rule  VIII). 

Termination  of  Appointment- 

Senior  Economist  P-5  $4,600  per  annum  ADVIS- 
ORY  COMMISSION  to  the  COUNCIL  of 
NATIONAL  DEFENSE,  Wasiiington,  D.  C. 

Office    of    Price    Administration  '    OFFTPF    for 

EMERGENCY   MANAGEMENT,   Wash- 
ington, D.  C. 

'  Funds  reallocated  from  Council  of  National  Defense  to  OEM,  2-28-41. 

Examination  Services  Section 
Exhibit  No.  452 


EHD  4/16 


OATH  OF  OFFICE 

Prescribed  by  Section  1757,  Revised  Statutes  of  the  United  States 

The  Advisory  Commission  to  the  Council  of  National  Defense 

I,  Karl  Heinrich  Niebyl,  do  solemnly  swear  (or  affirm)  that  I  will  support  and 
defend  the  Constitution  of  the  United  States  against  all  enemies,  foreign  and 
domestic ;  that  I  will  bear  true  faith  and  allegiance  to  the  same ;  that  I  take  this 
obligation  freely,  without  any  mental  reservation  or  purpose  of  evasion ;  and 
that  I  will  well  and  faithfully  discharge  the  duties  of  the  office  on  which  I  am 
about  to  enter.     So  help  me  God. 

I,  further,  do  solemnly  swear  (or  affirm)  that  I  am  not  a  member  of  the  Com- 
munist party,  the  German  Bund,  or  any  other  Communist,  Nazi,  or  Fascist  or- 
ganization, and  that  I  am  not  a  member  of  any  political  party  or  organization 
which  advocates  the  overthrow  of  our  constitutional  form  of  Government  in  the 
United  States. 

Karl  H.  Niebyl. 

Subscribed  and  sworn  to  before  me  this  10th  day  of  September,  A.D.  1940  at 
Washington,  D.  C. 


[seal] 


Lavada   M.    Court, 

Notary  Public. 


My  commission  expires  March  31,  1944. 

Position  to  which  appointed   Temp.  A.,   Senior  Economist,   P-5,  $4,600  per 
annum. 
Date  of  entrance  on  duty  August  29,  1940. 


3768       SCOPE    OF    SOVIET    ACTIVITY    EST    THE    UNITED    STATES 

Office  for  Emergency  Management, 
Washington,  D.  C,  September  3, 19U. 
C.  S.  C.  Report  No.  41-1773-T 
Name:   Niebyl,  Karl  H. 

Nature  of  Action:  Termination  of  Appointment  (without  prejudice). 


From 

To 

Position.. 

Senior  Economist 

Grade  and  salary 

P-S,  $4,ti00  per  annum 

Bmeau.  ._ . 

OfBce  of  Price  Administration 

Consumer  Division.. 

Branch 

Headquarters 

Washington,  D.  C 

Departmental  or  field 

Departmental ._ 

Effective  date :  Sept.  15, 1941,  c.  o.  b. 

Remarks :  Termination  of  temporary  appointment.  Because  of  the  confiden- 
tial nature  of  the  work  in  this  office  and  the  unsatisfactory  report  of  the  char- 
acter investigation  of  Mr.  Niebyl. 

Chas  E.  Mills,  Personnel  Officer. 


The  Aj)visory  Commission  to  the  Council  of  National  Defense, 

Washington,  D.  C,  September  8,  lOJfl. 
Chief,  Personnel  Section, 

The  Advisory  Commission  to  the  Council  of  National  Defense  {Through 
the  Immediate  Supervisor) . 

I  hereby  tender  my  resignation  from  the  position  of  Advisor  on  Monetary  and 
Fiscal  Policies  (Senior  Economist)  at  a  salary  of  $4,600.  Division  Consumer 
to  take  effect  at  the  close  of  business  September  15,  1941. 

Reason  :  Acceptance  of  position  as  Associate  Professor  of  economics  at  Tulane 
University,  New  Orleans. 

Karl  H.  Niebyl. 
Home  Address : 

At  present,  2000  Connecticut  Av.,  Apt.  707,  Washington,  D.  C. 
After  September  15,  Dept.  of  Economics,  Tulane  University,  New  Orleans. 
Accepted : 

Frances    R.    Montgomery, 
Adm.  Offi,cer — Con.  Div.  O.  P.  A. 

Academic  Record 

Name :  Kai-1  H.  Niebyl. 

Age :  34  ;  married  ;  one  child. 

Nationality :  American. 

Address :  118  Winona  Street,  Northfield,  Minnesota. 

Academic  Positions : 

Fellow,  Department  of  Economics,  University  of  Wisconsin,  Madison,  Wis- 
consin, 1934-1935. 

Research  Assistant,  Department  of  Economics,  University  of  Wisconsin, 
1935-February  1936. 

Instructor,    Department    of    Economics,    Carleton    College,    Northfield, 
Minnesota,  1936-1938. 
Assistant  Professoi*,  Department  of  Economics,  Carleton  College,  1938-. 
Degrees :  Ph.  D.  (Economics) ,  University  of  Wisconsin,  1936 : 

Thesis :  "The  Change  of  Function  of  Trade  Unionism  During  the  Epoch 
of  Imperialism." 

Diploma  in  Economics  (M.  A.),  University  of  Frankfurt  am  Main,  1932. 
Honors :  I.  S.  S.  Scholar,  London  School  of  Economics,  London,  England. 
Fellow,  Department  of  Economics,  University  of  Wisconsin,  Madison,  Wisconsin. 
Universities  Attended  :  Institute  of  Technology,  Hannover,  1923-1924  ;  Univer- 
sity of  Paris,  Paris  (Honors) ,  1929-1930 ;  University  of  Berlin,  Berlin,  1930-1931 ; 
University  of  Frankfurt  (M.  A.),  1931-1932;  London  School  of  Economics,  Lon- 
don School  of  Economics,  London,  1932,  1933-1934;  University  of  Wisconsin, 
Madison  ( Ph.  D. ) ,  1934-1936. 


SCOPE    OF    SOVIET    ACTIVITY    IN    THE    UNITED    STATES      3769 

Languages :  I  read,  write,  and  speak  German  and  French ;  I  read  Spanish  and 
Italian. 
Publications : 

Modern  Mathematics  and  Some  Problems  of  Quantity,  Quality,  and 
Motion  in  Economic  Analysis,"  Journal  of  the  Philosophy  of  Science,  New 
York,  January  1940. 

"The  Need  for  a  Concept  of  Value  in  Economic  Theory,"  The  Quarterly 
Journal  of  Economics,  published  by  Harvard  University,  February  1940. 

"Historijske  izmjene  u  funkciji  izvoza  kapitala  (Esej  iz  dinamicke 
teorije),"  Ekonomist,  Zagreb,  Juli-August  1939  (Croatian). 

"Surplus  Population  and  the  Present  Crisis  in  Japan,"  Current  Economic 
Issues,  December  1937. 

Also,  book  reviews  in  several  economic  journals. 
Articles  Definitely  Accepted  for  Publication : 

"A  Reexamination  of  the  Classical  Theory  of  Inflation,"  American  Eco- 
nomic Review,  Cambridge,  Massachusetts,  December  1940. 

"The  Historical  Change  in  the  Function  of  Capital  Export,"  Economic 
History  Review,  London,  England. 

"Some  Historical  Aspects  of  Mercantile  Concepts  of  Money." 
Articles  Submitted  for  Publication  : 

"Equilibrium  and  the  Quantity  Concept  of  Money." 

"Some  Aspects  of  the  Basic  Assumptions  of  Quantitative  Economics." 

"An  Historical  Example  of  Qualitative  Economic  Change." 
Papers  Read : 

"Population  Change  and  Business  Cycle  Theory."  At  the  Annual  Meet- 
ing of  the  Midwest  Economic  Association,  Des  Moines,  Iowa,  April  19,  1940. 

"The  Economics  of  the  Present  War."  At  the  University  of  Wisconsin, 
March  6, 1940. 

"The  Economics  of  Fascism."  At  the  Annual  Meeting  of  the  Midwest 
Economic  Association,  Des  Moines,  April  22,  1939. 

"Some  Aspects  of  the  Basic  Assumptions  of  Quantitative  Economics."    At 
the  Sixth  Annual  Research  Conference  on  Economics  and  Statistics,  of  the 
Cowles  Commission,  at  Colorado  Springs,  July  1940. 
Public  Lectures : 

"Swedish  Experiments  in  the  Control  of  the  Business  Cycle." 

"Changes  in  the  Function  of  Capital  Export." 

"The  Economics  of  the  Mediterranean." 

"Some  Problems  of  Modern  Business  Cycle  Theory." 
Work  in  Progress : 

"Studies  in  the  Function  of  Money."  This  is  a  research  project  on  which 
I  have  been  working  for  the  last  two  years.  In  connection  with  it  I  was 
awarded  a  grant-in-aid  by  the  Research  Committee  of  Carleton  College  for 
research  in  England,  France,  and  Switzerland  in  the  summer  of  1938.  For 
the  summer  of  1940  I  was  given  a  grant-in-aid  by  the  Social  Science  Re- 
search Council  to  continue  the  project. 

"Economic  History — The  Development  of  the  Economic  Structure  of  the 
Modern  AVorld."    This  work  is  being  written  upon  the  request  of  the  Ronald 
Press.    The  material  for  a  two-volume  work  has  been  assembled  and  will 
be  written  up  after  the  completion  of  the  above  work. 
Previous  Research  not  destined  for  publication : 

"A  Critical-Comparative  Study  of  English  and  German  Trade  Unionism 
During  a  Period  of  Economic  Contraction."  With  Professor  Harold  J. 
Laski,  London  School  of  Economics. 

"The  Change  from  Social  Welfare  Policy  to  Industrial  Democracy.  An 
Analysis  of  German  Trade  Union  Policy."  With  Professor  A.  Lowe,  Uni- 
versity of  Manchester,  England,  formerly  of  the  University  of  Frankfort 
am  Main,  Germany. 

"Present  Trends  of  Population  Movements  in  Minnesota."  "The  Present 
Situation  of  Agriculture  and  Industry  in  Minnesota."  Reports  written  for 
the  college  representative  to  the  Minnesota  Institute  of  Governmental  Re- 
search. 

"An  Evaluation  of  the  Existing  Material  on  Acculturation  with  the  View 
of  Studying  the  Implications  of  the  Term  "Acculturation'  and  Exploring 
New  Leads  for  Further  Investigations."    For  the  Committee  on  Accultura- 
tion of  the  Social  Science  Research  Council,  New  York. 
Business  Activity :   I  apprenticed  and  learned  thoroughly  both  the  steel  trade 
and  banking,     I  acted  as  a  correspondent  to  a  German  bank  (Darmstadter  & 


3770      SCOPE    OF    SOVIET    ACTIVITY    IN   THE    UNITED    STATES 

Nationalbank,  Berlin)  at  the  Berlin  Stock  Exchange.  I  was  assistant  to  the 
director  of  a  steel  construction  corporation  (Steffens  &  Noelle,  Berlin).  In  Paris 
I  was  foreign  correspondent  for  an  import  and  export  house  (Guttmann  & 
Lemmle,  Paris).  In  Berlin  I  acted  as  economic  counsellor  to  a  firm  of  corpora- 
tion lawyers  (Richard  RosendorfE,  Berlin). 

Teaching  Experiences :   Principles  of  Economics,  American  Economic  History, 
European  Economic  Hhistory,  Development  of  Economic  Thought,  Money  and 
Banking,  Public  Finance,  Business  Cycle  Theory,  Advanced  Economic  Theory. 
Professional  Societies : 

National  Bureau  of  Economic  Research,  New  Tork. 
British  Association  for  the  Advancement  of  Science. 
American  Economic  Association. 
References : 

Professor  Arthur  R.  Burnstan,  Department  of  Economics,  Carleton  Col- 
lege, Northfield,  Minnesota. 

Professor  Eugen  Alstchul,  School  of  Business  Administration,  University 
of  Minnesota,  Minneapolis,  Minnesota. 

Professor  Walter  Morton,  Department  of  Economics,  University  of  Wis- 
consin, Madison,  Wisconsin. 

Professor  T.  E.  Rankin,  Chairman,  Department  of  English,  Carleton  Col- 
lege, Northfield,  Minnesota. 

Professor  Charles  Christopher  Mierow,  Chairman,  Department  of  Biog- 
raphy, Carleton  College,  Northfield,  Minnesota. 

Karl  H.  Niebyi-. 
Cambridge,  Mass.,  July  22, 194O. 

Mr.  Morris.  I  have  no  more  questions  of  this  witness. 

Senator  Hruska.  What  is  your  business  or  profession,  Mr.  Niebyl, 
at  present  ? 

Mr.  NiEBYL.  I  refuse  to  answer  under  the  privilege  of  the  fifth 
amendment. 

Senator  Hruska.  Are  you  a  citizen  of  the  United  States  ? 

Mr.  NiEBYL.  Yes, 

Senator  Hruska.  Where  do  you  vote,  what  is  your  voting  address 
or  voting  location  ? 

Mr.  NiEBYL.  185  Jules  Drive.  ~ 

Senator  Hruska.  When  did  you  last  vote  as  a  citizen  at  that  ad- 
dress ? 

Mr.  NiEBYL.  Last  November. 

Senator  Hruska.  And  where  did  you  vote  before  that  ? 

Mr.  NiEBYL.  At  the  same  address. 

Senator  Hruska.  How  long  have  you  lived  there  ? 

Mr.  NiEBYL.  About  2  years. 

Senator  Hruska.  Are  you  a  member  of  the  Communist  Party  ? 

Mr.  NiEBYL.  I  refuse  to  answer  under  the  fifth  amendment. 

Senator  Hjiuska.  Have  you  been  active  in  any — are  you  active  now 
in  any  Communist  affairs  or  work  ? 

Mr.  NiEBYL.  I  refuse  to  answer  under  the  same  privilege. 

Senator  Hruska.  Have  you  been  active  in  the  past  in  any  Com- 
munist affairs  ? 

Mr.  NiEBYL.  I  refuse  to  answer. 

Senator  Hruska.  Have  you  been  a  member  of  the  Communist 
Party  at  any  time  in  the  past  ? 

Mr.  NiEBYL.  I  refuse  to  answer. 

Senator  Hruska.  That  is  all,  Judge  Morris. 

Mr.  Morris.  There  is  one  article  here  which  purports  to  be  written 
by  the  witness  here  today.  I  think  just  to  be  sure  it  is  the  article, 
the  same  one:  This  is  in  Science  and  Society,  the  Marxist  quarterly 


SCOPE    OF    SOVIET   ACTIVITY    IN    THE    UNITED    STATES       3771 

that  our  evidence  indicates  was  a  Communist  magazine.     Was  all  this 
in  the  past 

Senator  Hruska.  Did  you  base  a  question 

Mr.  Morris.  I  do  not  think  there  is  a  question  pendmg.  I  might 
point  out  that  one  of  the  items  in  our  record  among  Mr.  Tsuru's 
papers  contained  a  statement  that  the  board  of  editors  of  Science  and 
Society  magazine  in  1937  was  virtually  the  same  as  the  Communist 
faction  in  the  Science  and  Society  magazine.  That  is  a  term  the 
Communists  use  to  stake  out  their  representation  in  a  particular 
project. 

Senator  Hruska.  Mr.  Niebyl,  now  referring  to  the  summer  1940 
issue  of  Science  and  Society  magazine  which  on  its  cover  page  de- 
scribes itself  as  a  Marxian  quarterly.  It  is  volume  IV,  No.  3  and 
I  am  referring  to  pages  234  to  239  inclusive  of  that  and  the  article  on 
those  pages  is  entitled  "The  Cynical  Mr.  Kane"  and  signed  by  Karl 
H.  Niebyl.  I  should  like  to  know — will  you  inspect  that  article  in 
that  issue  and  tell  me  whether  or  not  that  article  was  authorized 
by  you? 

Mr.  Niebyl.  I  must  refuse  to  answer,  claiming  the  protection  of 
the  fifth  amendment. 

Senator  Hruska.  The  record  will  show  that  the  witness  did  refer 
to  the  magazine  in  question  and  examined  the  pages  referred  to  be- 
fore making  his  answer.  That  will  be  all,  Judge  Morris,  unless  you 
have  something  further. 

Mr.  Morris.  No,  I  have  nothing  further. 

Senator  Hruska.  The  hearing  will  be  adjourned. 

(At  1 :10  p.  m.  the  subcommitee  adjourned.) 


93215— 57— pt.  57- 


INDEX 


Note. — The  Senate  Internal  Security  Subcommittee  attaches  no  significance 
to  the  mere  fact  of  the  appearance  of  the  names  of  an  individual  or  an  organiza- 
tion in  this  index. 

A 

Page 

Abe,  Dr.  Toshishige 3757 

Abraham  Lincoln  School 3698, 3761 

Academic  Record— Karl  H.  Niebyl 3768-3770 

Addis,    T. — Stanford    School   of   Medicine;    contributor   to    Science   and 

Society  3713 

Adler,  Solomon 3696,  3750 

Advisory  Commission  to  the  Council  on  National  Defense . 3698, 

3762,  3764,  3767,  3768 

Agitprop 3763 

"Agriculture  in  U.  S.  A"  by  R.  Bryce 3739, 3740 

Aiken,  Henry — Harvard ;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3713 

Alber,  Harry  F 3745 

Alexander,  J.  W. — Princeton ;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3712 

Alstchul,  Prof.  Eugen 3770 

American  Academy  of  Policy  and  Sociology 3751 

American  Economic  Association 3770 

American  Embassy 3748 

'American  Imperialism"  by  E.  H.  Norman 3739-3741 

American-Japan  intellectual  interchange  program 3687, 3707, 3709,  3757 

Americans  who  have  gone  to  Japan 3757 

Japanese  who  have  come  to  United  States 3757 

American  League  Against  War  and  Fascism 3697,  3705,  3711,  3717,  3726 

American  Men  of  Science 3760 

Ando,  Jiro 3749 

Anti-Duhring  by  Engels 3697,  3705 

Anti-Imperialism  League 3692,  3717, 3718,  3754 

Appendix  I — Intellectual  interchange  program 3757 

Army  Department  Security  Board 3746 

ASAHI,  Japan's  leading  newspaper 3710 

Association  of  Marxian  Studies 3691,  3697, 3704,  3705,  3706,  3715 

List  of  study  groups 3715,  3717 

Atlantic  Monthly 3751 

Ayusawa,  Prof.  Iwao 3757 


Ballaine,  Francis — Adelphi ;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3712 

Beard,  Charles 3733 

Berlin  Stock  Exchange 3770 

Bernal.  J.  D.— University  of  Cambridge 3706,  3753 

Bialer,  Mr 3750 

Birch,  Francis — Harvard ;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3712 

Birdsall,  Paul — Williams ;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3712 

Bisson,  T.  A 3755 

Bittleman 3727,  3739 

Bon-To-Jin,  pen  name  of  Shigeto  Tsuru 3692 

Borton,  Dr.  Hugh 3757 

Boston 3688,  3691,  3695,  3754 

Bowles,  Gordon 3757 

Bradley,  Lyman  R. — Brooklyn  ;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3712 


n  INDEX 

Page 

Brady,  Robert  A. — California ;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3712 

Brameld 3726,3737 

Brameld,  Tlieodore  B. — Adelphia  ;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3712 

Braunthal 3734 

Brenner,   Henry 3755 

Bi-ewster,  Dorothy — Columbia  ;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3712 

British  Association  for  the  Advancement  of  Science 3770 

Brookings  Institution 3723 

Brown,  Harold  Chapman — Stanford  ;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3712 

Brown,  Prof.  J.  F.,  University  of  Kansas 3706 

Brown,  William  O. — Howai'd ;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3712 

Bryce,  Robert 3739-3741 

Bukharin 3731 

Bunche,  Ralph  J. — Howard ;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3712 

Burgum 3715,  3753 

Burgum,  Edwin  Berry— New  York ;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3712 

Burnstan,  Prof.  Arthur  R 3770 

C 

Cambridge 3693,  3697, 

3704-3706,  3710,  3715,  3716,  3719,  3722,  3727,  3729,  3742-3744,  3752,  3753 

Cameron,  Kenneth  Neill — Indiana  ;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3713 

Canadian  Legation  in  Tokyo 3743 

Cannon,  AValter  B. — Harvard  ;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3712 

Capital : 

First  volume  of 3734 

Second  edition  of 3728 

Third  volume  of 3726,3737,3738 

Carman.  Harry  J. — Columbia  University 3757 

Carmichael,  Dr.  Oliver,  former  president  of  University  of  California 3757 

Carter,  Mr 3746 

Cazden,  Norman — Harvard  and  Illinois ;  contributor  to  Science  and  So- 
ciety      3713 

Chao-Ting,  Chi 3746,  3747 

Chicago,  111 3693-3695,  3697,  3698,  3705,  3706,  3715, 

3718,  3719,  3721,  3726-3729,  3735,  3736,  3738,  3761,  3763,  3764,  3766 

Chicago  Workers  School 3763 

China 3692,  3693,  3695,  3699,  3700,  3710,  3718,  3746 

Clark,   Grover 3723 

Cobb,  H.  V. — Carleton ;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3712 

Cohen,  Joseph  W. — Colorado  ;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3713 

Cohen,  Theodore 3750 

Cole,  Dr.  Charles  W..  president  of  Amherst  College 3757 

Colleges  and  universities : 

Blackmountain   College,   North   Carolina 3761.  3764 

Carleton  College,  Minnesota—  3735,  3698,  3724,  3761,  3762,  3764,  3768,  3770 

Champlain  College,  State  University  of  New  York 3761,  3764 

Columbia  Universitv 3688,  3702,  3757 

Harvard  University 3687-3691, 

3693,  3694,  3702,  3704,  3709,  3740,-3742,  3744,  3759 

Hitotsubashi  University,  Tokyo 3687,  3709 

Lawrence  College,  Appleton,  Wis 3688,  3693,  3762 

Muskingum  College,  Ohio 3761,  3765 

Northwestern  University 3730 

Tokyo  University 3757 

Tulane  University 3698,  3761,  3764,  3768 

University  of  Akron 3706 

Universitv  of  Berlin 3698,  3763,  3768 

Universitv  of  Buffalo 3765 

Universitv  of  Chicago 3693,  3695,  3724,  3728,  3730,  3752,  3753 

University  of  Frankfurt,  Germany 3698,  3760,  3768 

University  of  Illinois 3706,  3774,  3762 

University  of  London 3698,  3706 

University  of  Michigan 3706 

University  of  Minnesota 3729,  3731,  3770 

University  of  New  York  (State) 3761,  3764,  3765 


INDEX  ni 

Colleges  and  universities — Continued  Page 

University  of  Oklahoma 3706 

University  of  Paris 3698,  3760,  3768 

University  of  Texas 3761,  3764 

University  of  Wisconsin 3693.  3698,  3736,  3760-3762,  3764,  3768,  3770 

Communist  (book) 3727 

Communist/s 3691-3095,  3698,  3704,  3710,  3711,  3714, 

3718,  3724,  3749,  3754,  3756,  3759,  3760,  3763-3765,  3767,  3770,  3771 

American    3746 

Chinese 3746,3747 

Japanese    3710 

Polish 3750 

Communist  Party 3691-3693,  3695,  3696,  3702-3704, 

3710,  3713,  3716-3718,  3724,  3736,  3738,  3750,  3763-3765,  3767,  3770 

Chicago 3764 

Japanese    3692 

United    States 3765 

Constantino,    Anthony 3755 

Constitution 3701 

Consumer  Division,  OPA 3761,  3762,  3764,  3768 

Cookson,  John 3718,  3731,  3752 

Corey 3697,  3705,  3727 

Council  of  National  Defense 3761,  3762 

Court,  Lavada  M.,  notary  public 3767 

Cousins,  Norman,  editor  of  Saturday  Review 3757 

Cox,  Oliver  O. — Tuskegee  ;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3713 

Curti,  Dr.  Merle,  University  of  Wisconsin 3757 

Cutler,  Addison  T. — Fisk  ;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3712 

"Cynical  Mr.  Kane,  The,"  article  in  Science  and  Society,  by  Karl  H.  Niebyl-     3771 
Czechoslovakia 3760 

D 

Darbin 3722 

D'Arcy,  Father  Martin 3757 

Darmstadter  .&  Nationalbank,  Berlin  (German  bank) 3770 

Darren 3722 

David,  Henry — Queens:  contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3712 

Davis,  Arthur  K. — Union;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3713 

Davis,  Horace  B. — Simmons;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3712 

Davis,  Kingsley — Pennsylvania  State ;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society—  3712 

Davis,  Richard  G 3691 

DeBary,  Prof.  Wm.  T. — Columbia  University 3757 

Decline  of  American  Capitalism,  The,  by  Corey 3697,  3705 

Diflie,  Bailey  AV. — City  College  of  New  York;  contributor  to  Science  and 

Society 3712 

Dobb,  Maurice,  famoxis  economist  in  England 3696 

Doob,  Joseph 3706 

Dotterer,  Ray  H. — Pennsylvania  State  ;  contriliutor  to  Science  and  Society-  3713 

Douglas,  Wallace  W. — Northwestern  ;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society —  3713 

Dunbar,  Carl  O. — Yale;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3712 

Dunham,  Barrows — Temple  ;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3713 

Dunn,  Dr.  Frederick  S. — Princeton  University 3757 

Dunn,  Leslie  C. — Columbia  ;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3712 

E 

Economic  Historical  Association,  New  York  City 3765 

Economic  Journal 3722 

Economic  Research  Associates 3761,  3766 

Economic  Research,  Inc 3766 

120  Broadway,  New  York 3766 

Telephone  Barkley  1-7590 3766 

Edel,  Abraham — Citv  College  of  New  York;  contributor  to  Science  and 

Society 3712 

Editor  Review  and  Forecast,  publication 3698 

Engels 3697,  3705,  3729,  3731,  3734 

England 3696,  3714,  3763,  3764 


IV  INDEX 

Page 

Brdman,  David  V. — Minnesota  ;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3713 

Ernstein,  Sylvia 376G 

Ewen,  Frederic — Brooklyn  ;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3713 

Exhibit  No.  442— Letter  to  W.  T.  Parry  from  Sliigeto  Tsuru,  dated  August 

31,    1936 3704-3706 

Exhibit  No.  443 — Letter  to  Tsuru  from  Parry,  dated  September  6,  1936, 

re  Science  and  Society 3706-3707 

Exhibit  No.  444 — List  of  contributors  to  Science  and  Society 3712-3713 

Exhibit  No.  445 — 1946  issue  of  Science  and  Society  (in  subcommittee  files)  _  3714 
Exhibit  No.  445-A — 1956  issue  of  Science  and  Society   (in  subcommittee 

files) 3714 

Exhibit  No.  445-B — 1956  issue  of  Science  and  Society   (in  subcommittee 

files) 3714 

Exhibit  No.  446 — Letter  to  Niebyl  from  Tsurni,  dated  February  22,  1937__  3715-^ 

3716 
Exhibit  No.  447 — Letter  to  Niebyl  from  Tsuru,  dated  December  14,  1936—  3718- 

3720 
Exhibit  No.  448 — Letter  to  Constance  Kyle  from  Tsuru,  dated  April  9, 

1937 3720,    3723 

Exhibit  No.  448-A— Letter  to  Tsuru  from  Kyle,  dated  April  14,  1937 3721 

Exhibit  No.  449 — Letter  to  Niebyl  from  Tsuru,  dated  January  31,  1937-  3721-3723 
Exhibit  No.  450 — Memorandum  addressed  to  editors  of  Science  and  Society 

signed  by  Kyle,  Niebyl,  and  Lowe  (Tsuru) 3725-3735 

Exhibit  No.  451 — Letter  to  Niebyl  from  Tsuru,  dated  May  9,  1937 3740 

Exhibit  No.  452 — Employment  file  of  Karl  H.  Niebyl,  includes  oath  of 

office 3767 

F 

Fairchild,  Henry  Pratt — ^New  York,  contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3713 

Farley,    Miriam 3755 

Farmer-Labor  Party 3739,  3740 

Farm(er)  Labor  Progressive  Federation 3697,3705 

Fascists 3695,3767 

FBI 3741 

Feuer,  Lewis  S. — City  College  of  New  York ;  contributor  to  Science  and 

Society 3712 

Field,   Fred 3746 

Fifth  amendment 3691,  3713,  3714,  3760-3766,  3770,  3771 

Fitzgerald,  James 3755 

Ford,  Father  George  B 3757 

Fox,  Ralph 3723 

Frankfurt,    Germany 3760 

Franklin,  Mitchell — Tulane;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3712 

Frazier,  E.  Franklin — Howard  ;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3712 

Freeman,  Frank  S. — Cornell;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3713 

G 

German  Bund 3767 

Germany 3698 

Gertrude 3715,  3720,  3723 

Gilbert,  G.  M. — Princeton;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3713 

Gilkes,  Lullian — New  York ;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3713 

Ginger,  Ray — Western  Reserve  and  Harvard ;  contributor  to  Science  and 

Society 3713 

Glover,  Charles,  attorney  for  Shigeto  Tsuru 3687 

Goodrich,  Prof.  Carrington,  Columbia  University 3757 

Gottschalk,  Hans — Iowa  ;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3713 

Gouldner,  Alvin  W. — Buffalo  ;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3713 

Government : 

Canadian 3741,3744 

Japanese 3701,3747,  3750,  3751 

Polish 3750 

United   Kingdom 3700 

United  States 3701,  3710,  3711,  3744,  3748 


INDEX  V 

Page 

Great  Britain 3706 

Gripsholni,  boat  on  which  Tsuru  repatriated 3689,3709,3710,3747 

Guide  to  Marxian  Studies,  a  classification  of  contents 3715, 

3719,  3722,  3732,  3719-3720 
Gundlach,  Ralph  H. — Washington    (State)  ;  contributor  to   Science  and 

Society 3713 

Guthrie,    Elton    P. — Washington    (State)  ;    contributor    to    Science   and 

Society i 3712 

Guttmann  &  Lemmle,  Paris  (import  and  export  house) 3770 

H 

Halperin,  Israel 3744,  3745 

Hanover,  Germany 3760,  3768 

Harap,  Louis — Harvard;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3712, 

3715,  3722,  3752 

Hartung,  Frank  E. — Wayne ;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3712 

Hathway,  Marion — Pittsburgh ;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3712 

Hegel 3723 

Henderson,  Algo,  University  of  Michigan 3757 

Herman  (Ramras) 3718 

Herzog,  George — Columbia  ;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3712 

Hicks 3722 

Hicks,  Granville — Harvard ;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3712 

Hiss,   Alger 3741 

Hitler 3698 

Hogben 3722 

Holland,  William 3746 

Holmes,  Eugene  C. — Hovrard  ;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3712 

Hornstein,    Lillian   Herlands — Nevp   York;    contributor   to    Science   and 

Society 3712 

House  Un-American  Activities  Committee 3691 

Howard,  Kenneth 3753 

Hruska,  Senator  Roman  L 3759 

Huberman,  Leo — Columbia  ;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3712 

Hughes,  Charles — Hunter  ;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3712 

Hunter,  Louis  C. — American  ;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3712 


Ichikawa,  Miss  Fusae 8757 

Ideology  and  Utopia,  by  Manheim 3729 

Imamura,  Dr.  Arao 3757 

India 3750 

Infeld,  Leopold — Toronto ;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3712 

Inlow,  E.  Burke — Princeton  ;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3713 

Institute  of  Pacific  Relations  (IPR) 3747,  3748,  3754,  3755 

Japanese  Council  of 3746 

Lucknow  conference 3747 

Institute  of  Technology,  Hanover,  Germany 3760,  3768 

International  Communist  Relief  Corps,  part  of  the  overall  MOPR —  Soviet 

Relief    Organization 3692 

International  Economic  Service,  Ltd 3745 

International  House 3689,  3690 

International  Student  Institute 3742,  3743 

J 

Jaffe,    Phillip 3754 

Japan 3692, 

3693,  3696,  3700,  3701,  3710,  3717,  3740,  3742-3746,  3748,  3750,  3751,  3754,  3757 
Japan  Anti-War  League 3754 

Japanese  Army 3700 

Japanese  Emancipation  League 3755 

Japanese  invasion  of  China 3695,  3699 

Jenner,  Senator  Wm.  E 3687 

Jodai,  Miss  Tano 3757 

Johnston,  Senator  Olin  D 3687 

Journal  of  American  Statistical  Association 3722 


VI  INDEX 

K  Page 

Kaiso 3751 

Kaji,  Dr.  Shinzo 3757 

Kameyama,  Prof.  Naoto 3757 

Katayama,    Premier 3710 

Kazakevich,  Vladimir  D. — Columbia ;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society.  3712 

Keeney,  Phillip  O 3750 

Keynes,  John  M ,-  3697,  3722,  3735 

Kihara,  Dr.  Hitoshi 3757 

Killem,  James 3756 

Killen    3756 

Kiroshi,  Joja 3755 

Koichi,  Lord  Keeper  of  the  Privy  Seal 3689 

Koizumi,  Dr.  Shinzo 3757 

Korb,  Mr 3752 

Korb's  group  in  Cambridge 3705 

Krechevsky,  I. — University  of  Chicago 3706 

Kresh,  Joseph — Brooklyn  and  City  College  of  New  York;  contributor  to 

Science  and  Society 3712 

Kuznets 3723 

Kyle,  Constance  (Connie) 3697,  3705,  3706,  3714-3716, 

3718,  3720,  3721,  3724,  3729,  3735,  3736,  3751,  3754,  3762,  3763,  3765 

L 

Lange,  Oscar  (Polish  Communist  official) 3719,  3722,  3750 

Larkin,  Oliver — Smith :  contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3712 

Laski 3722,   3733 

Laski,  Prof.  Harold  J 3769 

Lectures  of  Karl  H.  Niehyl 3769 

Left  Book  Club  in  England 3714,  3716 

Left  News,  The 3723 

Lenin 3715,  3727,  3729,  3731 

Leontief,  Prof 3716,  3722 

Letter  to  Parry  from  Tsuru,  dated  August  31,  1936— Exhibit  No.  442 3689, 

3690,  3704-3706,  3717,  3720 

Letter  to  Tsuru  from  Parry,  dated  September  6,  1936— Exhibit  No.  443 3698. 

3706-3707 

Letter  to  Xiebvl  from  Tsuru,  dated  February  22, 1937— Exhibit  No.  446 3714, 

3715-3716,  3717,  3723,  3765 
Levinson,  Norman — Massachusetts  Institute  of  Technology;  contributor 

to  Science  and  Society 3712 

Levy,  H. — University  of  London 3706 

Lewis,    John 3723 

Liberty  League 3730 

Lind,  L.  R. — Kansas ;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3713 

London  School  of  Economics  (London,  England) 3698,3760,3763,3768 

Lowe,    Alfred  Z.  (name  used  by  Shigeto  Tsuru)  ;  contributor  to  Science 

and  Society 3691.  3712,  3724,  3729,  3732,  3735,  3738,  3762.  3763,  3769 

Lumpkin,  Katharine  De  Pre — Smith ;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society.-     3712 

Lunning,  Mr 3752 

Lunning's  gi'oup 3705 

M 

MacArthur,    General 3710,  3739 

MacLaulin,  G.  C 3723 

MacLeod,  Robert  B. — Cornell ;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3713 

Madison,  Wisconsin 3693,  3695,  3697,  3705,  3718,  3729,  3731,  3752 

Maeda,  Tamon 3757 

Maiei-,  N.  R.  F. — University  of  Michigan 3706 

Manchuria 3692 

Mandel,  Benjamin 3687,  3709,  3759 

Mandel,  Vernard — Pennsylvania  ;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3713 

Mandel,  William— Stanford ;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3713 

Manheim 3729 

Manifesto 3726,  3737 

Mark,  Irving — Brooklyn  ;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3712 


INDEX  yn 

Page 

Marquat,   General 3743 

Marshall 3722 

Marx,  Karl 3691,  3697,  3704,  3705,  3722,  3723,  3728,  3729,  3731,  3734,  3741 

Marx-Engels  Archiv 3733 

"Marxian  Methodology  in  Social  Sciences,"  by  Tsuru 3739,  3740 

Marxism 3696,  3703,  3719,  3726,  3730,  3752 

Marxism  and   Modern  Thought 3731 

Marxist  Stiidv  Clubs 3730,  3765 

Marxist  Quarterly,  The 3728,  3729,  3735 

Mason,    Professor 3716 

Massachusetts 3715,  3716,  3718 

Mather,  Kirtley  F. — Harvard;  contributor  to  tScience  and  Society 3713 

Matsukata,   Saburo 3747,  3757 

Matsumoto,    Mr 3747 

Matsumoto,    Shigeharu 3757 

Matsuo,  Mr 3747,  3748 

Maturos 3755 

May,  Kenneth — Carleton;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3713 

McCuue,  Shannon 3757 

McGill 3726,  3729,  3733,  3737 

McGill,  V.  J. — Hunter ;  contril)utor  to  Science  and  Society 3712 

McManus,  Robert  C 3759 

Mead,    Lawrence 3743 

Menefee,  Selden  C. — National ;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3713 

Merton,  Robert  K. — Harvard  ;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3712 

Meyer,  Frank 3763,  3764 

Mierow,  Prof.  Charles  Christopher 3770 

Mills,  Chas.  E 3768 

Minnesota 3761.  3764 

Mins,  H.  F 3706,  3707,  3714,  3716,  3721 

Mises.     ( See  von  Mises. ) 

Mitchell,  P>roadus— Johns  Hopkins ;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society —     3712 

Montasu,  M.  F.  Ashley— Hahnemann  Medical ;  contributor  to  Science  and 

Society 3712 

Montgomery,  Frances  R 3768 

Monthly  Review  Press 3696 

Moore,  Professor    (Columbia  University) 3757 

MOPR— Soviet   Relief  Organization 3692 

Morals,  Herbert  M. — Brooklyn  ;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3712 

Morris,  Robert 3687,  3709,  3759 

Morrison,  Philip — Cornell;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3713 

Morton,  Prof.  Walter 3770 

Moscow 3751 

N 

Nagayo,  Yoshiro 3757 

Nagel,   Earnest 3733 

Nakayama,  President  Ichiro,  Hitotsubashi  University 3757 

Nathan,  Otto — New  York ;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3713 

"National  Income  and  Its  Distribution  Among  Different  Classes,"  by  L. 

Tarshis 3739,3740 

National  Bureau  of  Economic  Research,  New  York 3770 

Nazi 3767 

Nettels,  Curtis  P. — Wisconsin,  contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3712 

New  School  of  Social  Research 3761,  3765 

New  Statesman  and  Nation,  The 3722 

New  York 3715,  3716,  3718,  3719,  3721,  3727-3729,  3735,  3760, 3761 

Niebyl,  Elizabeth  H.,  wife  of  Karl  H 3766 

Niebyl,  Karl  Heinrich  (K.  H.  N.) 3698,  3704,  3706,  3715,  3717,  3718, 

3720,  3721.  3724,  3729,  3733,  3735,  3736,  3738-3740,  3751,  3753,  3759 

Niebyl,  Karl  H. — Carleton  ;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3712 

Testimony  of  Karl  H.  Niebyl 3760-3771 

185  Jules  Drive,  New  York  City 3760,  3770 

Fifth  amendment  re  employment 3760,  3770 

Fifth  amendment  re  Communist  Party 3760,  3764,  3770 


Vm  INDEX 

Niebyl,  Karl  H. — Caiieton ;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society — Continued     Page 

Attorney,  David  Rein,  711  14tli  Street  NW.,  Wasliington,  D.  C 3760 

Born  June  30,  1936,  in  Prague 3760 

1923-24,  attended  Institute  of  Technology,  Hanover,  Germany 3760 

1929-30,  attended  University  of  Paris 3760 

1932,  attended  University  of  Frankfurt,  Germany 3760 

1932-34,  attended  London  Scliool  of  Economics 3760 

1936,  Ph.  D.  from  University  of  Wisconsin 3760-3761 

1935-36,  research  assistant  at  University  of  Wisconsin 3761 

1936-40,  instructor  at  Carleton  College,  Minnesota 3761 

1940-41,  Consumer  Division,  OPA 3761 

1941^3,  associate  professor,  Tulane  University 3761 

1946,  professor,  University  of  Texas 3761 

1946-47,  Blackmountain  College,  North  Carolina 3761 

1947-53,  Champlain  College,  State  University  of  New  York 3761 

1953-54,  Muskingum  College,  Ohio 3761 

Since  1954,  with  Economic  Research  Associates 3761 

1956,  lecturer  at  New  School  of  Social  Research,  New  York  City 3761 

Worked  for  Council  on  National  Defense 3761 

Wife,   Elizabeth 3766 

Fifth  amendment  re  wife's  business  or  profession 3766 

Employment  file 3767,  3768 

Academic  record 3768-3770 

Languages 3769 

Publications 3769 

Public  lectures 3769 

Business   activity 3769 

Professional  societies 3770 

References 3770 

Ninth  Party  Convention 3727,  3738 

Norman,  E.  H 3739-3744 

North  Carolina 3761,  3764 

Northfield,  Minn 3768,  3770 

Nye 3741 

Nye,  Russell  B. — Michigan  State ;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3713 

O 

Oath  of  office 3767 

Obermeyer,  Charles — Columbia  ;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3712 

Odegard,  Prof.  Peter — University  of  California 3757 

Ohio 3761,3765 

Olson,  Miss,  secretary  to  Mins 3714,  3716,  3721 

On  Reproduction  Schemes,  appendix  written  for  Sweezy's  book  by  Tsuru_-     3696 

OPA,  Consumer  Division 3761,3762,3764,3768 

OPA,  Office  for  Emergency  Management 3767,  3768 

Orchard,  Prof.  John — Columbia  University 3757 

Otis,  Brooks — Hobard  ;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3712 

P 

Pareto 3734 

Parry,  William  T. — Buffalo  University 3689, 

3699,  3704,  3707,  3714-3716,  3719-3724,  3736,  3738,  3740,  3752,  3754 

Contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3713 

Instructor  of  philosophy  at  Harvard 3690 

Identified  by  Richard  Davis  as  Communist 3691 

Paskoff,  Benjamin — City  College  of  New  York ;  contributor  to  Science  and 

Society 3712 

Patel,  Surendra  J. — Pennsylvania  ;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3713 

Patterson,  Ernest  F. — Alabama  ;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3713 

"Peculiarities  of  Capitalist  Accumulation  in  U.  S.,"  by  P.  Sweezy 3739,  3740 

Petty,  William 3723 

Phillips,  Herbert  J. — ^Washington  (State)  ;  contributor  to  Science  and  So- 
ciety      3712 

Poland 3750 

Prague 8733,3760 

Publications  of  Karl  H.  Niebyl 3769 


INDEX  rx 

Q  Page 

Quesnay 3697 

R 

Raj,  Wataru 3754 

Ramras,  Herman 3731,  3752 

Ramsay 3722 

Rankin,  Prof.  T.  E 3770 

Reade,  Leslie — New  York  ;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3712 

Rein,  David,  711  14th  Street  NW.,  Washington,  D.  C,  attorney  for  Karl  H. 

Niebyl 3760 

Reinhold,  Meyer — Brooklyn  :  contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3713 

Reischauer,  Dr.  Edwin ;  professor  at  Harvard 3757 

Reiss,  Bernard  F. — Brooklyn  ;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3713 

Review  of  Economic  Studies  on  the  Economic  Theory  of  Socialism,  The  3719,  3722 

Richard  Rosendorff,  Berlin  (firm  of  corporation  lawyers) 3770 

Riess,  Ernst — Hunter  ;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3713 

Roberts,  Leo 3723,  3752 

Rockefeller,  John  D.,  Ill 3757 

Roosevelt,  Mrs.  Eleanor 3757 

Rosenfeld,  Mark  Nathan 3749 

Ross,  Emerson 3749,  3755 

Roth,  Andrew 3754 

Rusher,  William  A 3687,3709,3759 

Ryan,  Prof.  Frederick  L. — University  of  Oklahoma 3706 

S 

Saionji,  Mr 3748 

Sandow,  Alexander — New  York  ;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3712 

Sargent,  S.  Stanfield — Columbia ;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3712 

Saturday  Review 3757 

Sazo,  Nozaka  (known  as  Susumu  Okano) 3755 

SCAP 3709,  3739,  3743,  3745,  3747,  3749,  3750,  3755,  3756 

Schlauch,  Margaret — New  York  ;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3712 

Schuman 3723 

Schumpeter 3722 

Science  and  Society  (S  &  S),  Communist  magazine 3691, 

3693,  3699,  3702,  3703,  3706,  3710,  3711,  3713-3731,  3736-3838,  3740, 

3753,  3754,  3759,  3770,  3771. 

Science  and  Society  Club 3715,  3718,  3719 

Second  World  War 3700 

Selsam,  Howard — Brooklyn  ;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3712 

Senki,  national  organization  of  the  Japanese  Communist  Party 3692 

Seventh  World  Congress 3727,  3737,  3738 

Sherman,  G.  W. — Montana  State;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3713 

Shibata,  Prof,  and  Mrs.  Kei 3736 

Shiga,  Yoshio 3755 

Shlakman,  Vera — Queens  ;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3713 

Shou  Shan  Pu — Carleton;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3713 

Sillen,  Sam 3729,  3735 

Contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3712 

Slochower,  Harry — Brooklyn  ;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3712 

Snyder,  Alice  D. — Vassar ;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3712 

Sorge  espionage  case 3748 

Sourwine,  J.  G 3709 

Soviet 3700 

Soviet  Union 3727,  3738,  3751 

S  &  S.     (See  Science  and  Society.) 

Stager,  Ross,  University  of  Akron 3706 

Stalin 3727,  3734,  3738 

State  Department 3689,  3742 

Stateu  Island  redbook 3766 

Steffens  &  Noelle,  Berlin  (steel  construction  corporation) 3770 

Steinmetz,  Harry  C. — San  Diego  State ;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society-     3712 

Stern,  Bernhard  J. — Columbia  ;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3712 

Strachey 3735 


X  INDEX 

Page 

Struik,  D.  J 3716,  3726,  3734,  3735,  3737,  3754 

Massachusetts  Institute  of  Technologv ;  contributor  to  Science  and 

Society 3712 

Swadish,  Morris — City  College  of  New  York ;  contributor  to  Science  and 

Society 3713 

Sweezy,  Alan 3716,  3722 

Williams  College;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3712 

Sweezy,  Paul  M 3696,3716,3719,3735,3739-3741 

Harvard;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3712 

T 

Takagi,  Dr.  Yasaka 3757 

Takahashi,  Prof.  Masao 3749 

Takeda,  Miss  Kiyoko 3757 

Tarnopol,  Lester — Kentucky  ;  contributor  to  Science  and  Soicety 3712 

Tarshis,  L 3739-3741,  374:! 

Taussig 3722 

Teachings  of  Karl  Marx,  by  Lenin 3715 

Theory  of  Capitalist  Development,  by  Paul  M.  Sweezy 3696 

Thorp,  Willard — Amherst  College 3757 

Thorpe,  General 3743 

Time  magazine 3748 

Tobata,  Prof.  Seiichi 3757 

Tokuda  Kvuichi 3755 

Tokyo 3709,  3743,  3745,  3747,  3748 

Trinkaus,  Cliarles  E.,  Jr. — Sarah  Lawrence ;  contributor  to  Science  and 

Society 3713 

Trotskyists,  Trotskyite.s 3714,  3716,  3728,  3754 

Tsuji,  Mrs.  INIatsu 3757 

Tsuru,  Shigeto 3759,  3762,  3765 

Testimony  of 3687-3757 

18-A  Forest  Street,  Cambridge  40,  Mass 3687 

Professor  of  economics  at  Hitotsubashi  University,  Tokyo 3687 

Visting   lecturer   at   Harvard   University 3687 

Born  in  Tokyo,  Japan 3688 

Married   Masako   Wada 3689 

Used  name  of  Alfred  Z.  Lowe 3691,  3724,  3729,  3732,  3735,  3738 

Pen  name  of  Bon-To-.l'in 3692 

Vice   Minister   of   Economic    Stabilization 3710 

Charles  Glover,  attorney 3687 

Broadcast  on  Voice  of  America 3687 

Turnage,  William  T 3756 

Turner,  Ralph,  Yale  University 3757 

U 

United  Nations  Resolution  on  Genocide 3700 

United  States 3688,  3689,  3692,  3693,  3696,  3700,  3701, 

3703,  3704,  3709—3711,  3730,  3732,  3733,  3737,  3746,  3747,  3757 

United  Workers  Party  in  Poland 3750 

University.     (See  colleges  and  universities.) 

Unter  dem  Banner  des  Marxismum 3727 

.     V 

van  Cedlen "_ 3734 

Varga 3738 

Venable,  Vernon — Vassar  ;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3712 

Voice  of  America 3687,  3688,  3701,  3707 

von  Mises 3719,  3722 

W 

Wada,  Masako  (wife  of  Shigeto  Tsuru) 3689 

Niece  of  Lord  Keeper  of  the  Privy  Seal,  Koichi 3689 

Walton,  Eda  Lou — New  York ;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3713 

Wataru,  Raj 3754 


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Page 

Webb,  Sidney  and  Beatrice 3722,  3753 

Weisner,  Louis — Hunter;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3712 

Welch,  Edward  Christy 3755,  3756 

Williams,  William  Appleman — Oregon  ;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society.     3713 

Winspear,  A.  D. — Wisconsin;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3712 

Wirtschafts-rechnung  by  Mises 3719 

Wolfard,  John  A. — Montana  State ;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3713 

Worker's    School 3693- 

3695,  3705,  3706,  3717,  3721,  8726,  3727,  3730,  3731,  3737,  3738 


YCL.     {See  Young  Communist  League.) 

Yellen,  Samuel — Indiana  ;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3712 

Yoshida,  Shigeru 3749 

Young,  Alfred — Wesleyan ;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3713 

Young  Communist  League  (YCL) 3692,  3695-3697,  3705,  3711,  3718, 

3727,  3730,  3738 
Z 

Zagorin,  Perez — Amherst ;  contributor  to  Science  and  Society 3713 

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