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GEORGE FRANCIS TRAIN,

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ALSO HIS GREAT SPEECH ON THE

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"IS AMERICAN SLAVERY TO THE NEGRO A STEPPING-STONE
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[From the London American of March 19, 18C2.]

stronger than its neighbor — the rainbow
more beautiful than the storm-cloud — the
lily more lovely than the lilac ; when you
will tell me the reason that Providence or-
dained that the fair Saxon should be per-
mitted to express, in the blush upon her
face, all the emotions of her soul, while the
African knows not the signification of the
word— (applause)— when these things are
made clear to me, I will tell you how and
why He has made the African the servant
of the Anglo-Saxon race, but not till then.
(Cheers.) They were born and bred ser-
vants, they cannot be masters. I have been
in Africa, and nowhere did I learn that the
Nubian had ever been other than a hewer of
wood and a drawer of water. For forty
centuries they have borne the burden. We
may regret their position, but we cannot
change the laws of God. The obelisks and
hieroglyphics of the past have stamped their
occupations. Africa is a desert — America a
garden — mind you, I speak of that portion of
the great Ethiopean country that cultivates
the English staple of shivery. (" Oh ! it is not
a modern institution.") No, I admit that
slavery is no new institution — did I not
open the debate with that statement ? It is
as old as the world of the geologists. All
ages have owned their slaves. Examine
the archives of time. Chaos before Cosmo
— then the lower animals, then man, concen-
trating something from all, but created in
the image of his Creator. Man required
society. " Society must have laws. Laws
constitute government. Hence, government
is civil law, controlling property, liberty, life.
This was the primitive state. The people

Mr. Train. — Slavery, Mr. Chairman and
Gentlemen, is as old as the Bible — older, for
man existed before parchment, and owned
slaves, before he commenced writing for the
Times, — in which he lived. (Laughter.) You
all know why I put the question on the
paper — wherever the American war has been
discussed, each speaker seems to have felt
it his duty to give the Americans a homily
on slavery. Hence, it occurred to me that
a subject which had occupied your Broug-
hams — your Wilberforces, your Buxtons,
your Clarksons— for more than a quarter of
a century, was wide enough for a Forum de-
bate without the collateral issues which
stifles sound logic and swamps honest argu-
ment. (Applause.) It was generous in me
to take the unpopular side, and, perhaps,
too bold to rashly throw the gauntlet to the
clever men that have come in to-night to
crush me with abolitionism. (Laughter and
applause.) But fear not for me, I will make
good my cause and oblige you to admit that
American slavery is a stepping-stone to tlte
negro from African barbarism to Christian
civilization ! Hence, a Divine Institution.
(" Oh," and dissent.) Gentlemen, you mur-
mur, but you have no right to trifle with the
mysterious ways of Providence. Whatever
is, is right ; man proposes. God disposes.
He arranged the plan of civilization I defend,
not man.

When you will explain why, in His wis-
dom, He made one mountain overtop an-
other mountain — formed one ocean larger
than another ocean. — planned one valley
wider than another valley ; when you can
make me understand why lie made the oak

train's speeches on slavery and emancipation.

elect governors; the most intellectual are
chiefs. First, it was physical courage, then
mental energy, superiority ; hence slavery.
You find it in every age. From Chaldea it
went to Egypt, to Arabia, to all Eastern
lands, and finally all over the world. I
found them everywhere in my travels, but
under different names. In Homer's day all
war prisoners in Greece were slaves. The
Lacedemonian youth were trained to trap
them, and afterwards butcher them. Three
thousand prisoners were slaughtered on one
occasion by these manly Spartans merely
for amusement. Three centuries before the
Christian era, Alexander destroyed Thebes,
and sold into abject slavery, the entire popu-
lation. Slaves in chains, received the ban-
quet guests in the Roman mansions. The
laws of the XII Tables made insolvent
debtors slaves until the debt was paid ; and
only forty-two years before Christ, Polio fat-
tened his lampreys on the slaves that of-
fended him ! Twelve years before that
Ccecilius Isidorus left 4,116 in his will to his
heir. Twenty-two centuries, (says Dr. Mor-
ton,) before Christ, we see in the monuments
of Egypt, Caucasian and negro as master
and slave. Gliddon's " Types of Man,"
pictures the negro dancing in handcuffs in
the streets of Thebes three thousand four
hundred years ago ! The negro is always
painted a slave on the vases found in the
tombs of Etruria. He has not made in
Africa one progressive step, since his char-
acteristics were shown on the gravestones of
the kings. I make these preparatory com-
ments in reply to the gentleman who said it
was not purely an English institution, in
order to bring my points to bear upon the
question, so as to prove to your satisfaction
that American slavery is a stepping-stone to
the improvement of the African.

England had the best of examples for in-
troducing slavery into the Western World.
(Hear.) But let us not trust to profane
historians — take sacred writers. Read the
Bible and observe the bondsmen — the laws
that regulate their sale and purchase. No-
tice the numbers owned by Abraham, by
Isaac, by Jaco~b. Moses, too, had so many,
he made laws to govern the slave-owner.
"What were the bondsmen andjbondsmaids
of the ancients but slaves ? Dr. Wayland
says that the Hebrews held slaves since the
conquest of Canaan — and it was on Canaan
that the badge of servitude fell. Abraham
owned one thousand. Even Whitfield did
not call it a sin. Read 25th Leviticus —
read 21st Exodus — where the slave is called
money — " When his master shall bore his
ear through with an awl, and he shall own
him for ever." Polygamy, divorce, murder,
incest, the Bible precepts forbade, but
placed no ban on slavery I find no law
against it in the Scriptures. Even Moses

delivered up a fugitive slave — (hear, hear) —
but it does not follow that I advocate it in
perpetuity. (Continued applause.) The
fact is, men in our day would be hung for
what then hardly occasioned a rebuke.
"Servants obey your masters," was the Di-
vine law, and St. Paul endorsed it. If the
Author of Christianity had not approved of
it, His goodness and his honor must neces-
sarily have rejected it. The Old Testament
sanctioned it, the New gives no word nor
sign against it — but laws regulating it are
recorded in both. St. Paul had time to give
directions about the cut of a coat, or to say
polite words to King Agrippa, but nowhere
records anything against slavery: on the
contrary, in his letter to his friend Philemon,
to whom he consigns his own son Onesimus
— " Whom I have begotten in my bonds."
Does he not say " which in time past was to
thee unprofitable, but now profitable to thee
and me?" One would suppose that slavery
is purely of American origin, if trained by
the modern philanthropists, but it seems to
be a plant of very ancient growth. But
pass by the barbarous days, come back to
Christian England. Saxon Alfred made
laws as to the sale of slaves, and it is well
known that in Saxon and Norman times the
children of the English peasantry were sold
in the Bristol market like cattle for expor-
tation ! — some went to Ireland, some to
Scotland. Wat Tyler's rebellion in 1381
arose from serfdom. Edward VI. branded
V on the breast of any one who lived idle
for three days, and the buyer owned him for
two years as his slave. He could oblige
him to work by beating and chaining him ;
let him absent himself for a fortnight, and,
with a brand upon his cheek, he was made a
slave for ever! His neck, his leg, or his
arm could be circled with rings of iron, and
these were Saxon England's laws ! Even in
1547 a runaway apprentice became by
statute a slave. This hasty glance at the
past brings us down to the base of our ar-
gument, when England stamped African
slavery into the American soil. Sir John
Hawkins (1563) was not long in following
the Portuguese in profiting by the Congo
and Angola traffic in Africans — perhaps
England, even at this early day, thought of
this method of Christianizing Africans.
(Laughter, and " Good.") Queen Elizabeth
was an accomplice, and the English Anne
was joint partner with the Spanish Philip in
dividing profit in the 144,000 slaves stipu-
lated for in the Assiente treaty ! England,
I say, may thus early have had the praise-
worthy idea of civilizing this God-forsaken
race by firmly planting in the West the
Bible staple of slavery. (Laughter.) Eng-
land has been consistent from the first — all
the Georges were engaged in it. The dia-
monds in the Royal Crown, now worn by

TRAIN S SPEECHES ON SLAVERY AMD EMANCIPATION.

your Queen, were bought by the proceeds
arising from the sale of your negroes, and as
your former Queens, your Government and
your people were all so largely engaged in
the traffic, it is most unfair to presume that
they had any other motive in view in carry-
ing on this wholesale trade in human flesh
than the Christianizing of the savage !
(Laughter.) Even the capital in which you
established the East India Company and the
Bank of England, was furnished from the
profits of the African slave trade.

Any one at all acquainted with English
characteristics — knowing how disinterested
they are in all matters of personal interest,
and how little they care for that which most
nations seek for — money — and how all their
efforts for a period of centuries has been to
benefit other lands instead of their own —
(laughter) — will not for a moment credit the
unpleasant rumors that have got abroad that
England had any sordid object in view.
(Laughter, and hear, hear.) Assuming, then,
the generous view, that the civilization of
the African was the object, I proceed to
condense my whole argument into a few
paragraphs to show how successful England
has been in her philanthropy, and during
the next five minutes, will convince the most
skeptical, that American slavery to the
negro is a stepping stone in the right direc-
tion. In order to bring my point straight
home to your comprehension, I shall lay be-
fore you bone by bone, the skeleton on
which I base the argument. I shall ana-
lyze and divide the whole question into affir-
matives and negatives, and making you ac-
knowledge individual points, 1 shall compel
you to admit the collective argument. —
("We'll see !" and applause.)
PHYSICALLY.
Is not the meagre, thin, long, chop-fallen,
half-starved savage, as you find him a pri-
soner of war in negro land, a barbarian, com-
pared to the happy, contented, well developed,
strong, hearty, well clothed, well fed, negro
slave in his Christianized state of American
Slavery f Answer me, gentlemen — yes, or
no, as I give you point by point. (" Yes,"
and applause.) That much admitted, take
him intellectually and mentally. The
physical effects, the intellectual — take care
of the body, and you improve the mind. The
muscles of your brain grow by action, as the
muscles of the body become stronger by
exertion. (" That's so,") A man's arm is
like a woman's before he trains for the prize-
fight ; but action makes the cords appear
like iron ; so it is with the mind, hence the
emaciated physique gives perforce an emaci-
ated intellect. I ask you to look on the
miserable, weak-minded animal in Africa,
who knows not the sweets of labor, or Bible
schools, Bible societies, or Christian prea-
chers — makes no statues, paints no portraits,

writes no books, and contrast him in his
improved state in Hie West, where he has a
higher order of talent to shape his thoughts;
— look at moles, and your ideas become
moley ; look at mountains, and they become
mountainous. In Africa, he had no higher
example. In America, the Caucasian race
has elevated his intellect, as it has improved
his physique, and I ask again, has not the
barbarian, which you admit in the one case,
made progress in the other? ("Yes," and
applause.)

COMMERCIALLY.

The African savage never benefitted man-
kind as an. African savage (for their palm
oil, their elephants' tusks, and traffic in
human flesh is the commerce of the white
man ;) but as an American slave has he not
grown corn, cotton, sugar, rice, tobacco, and
coffee, and thus helped to civilize the world
more than all the missionaries in Christen-
dom? ("Yes." and applause.)
FINANCIALLY.

The argument applies — what finance has
he in Africa? No circulating medium, no
exchequer bills, no currency, nothing but
human beings constitute the coin in their
barter trade ; while iu America, does not
his labor, based on the commerce it produces,
regulate exchanges, rule markets, stimulate
finance ? Is not the Atlantic Ocean bridg-
ed with letters of credit? — perhaps not now,
since our blockades is so effectual — (laugh-
ter) — proving that the African financially
stands in a higher position as an American
slave than as a negro barbarian! ("Yes,"
and applause.)

MECHANICALLY.

What arts, sciences, instruments ; what
ingenuity has the negro in his barbarian
state ever shown ? Nothing ; but in our
American slavery, he has seen in the white
man a higher order of mankind ; and there
are now mechanics, carpenters, smiths, metal
workers among slaves. Will any gentleman
dispute it ? (No.) Am I stating facts ?
(Yes.) '1 hen gentlemen, take care, or I shall
make you admit the entire argument, piece
by piece, before I come to the climatrix. —
(Laughter.)

SOCIALLY.

I see gentlemen, what yon are all waiting
for — you all expect me to be floored upon
the moral, social and religious point of view.
You have admitted my former propositions,
believing that I should break down upon the
moral view of the subject, forgetting, as you
do, that all the previous points which I have
made in the affirmative — physically, intel-
lectually, COMMERCIALLY, MECHANICALLY

(and I could have added agriculture and
manufactures) — bear direct on the social,
religious, and moral aspect of the case. But
I do not require their assistance, although
each one of them proves the affirmative of

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the question under discussion. I now take
it up socially. The African Las no social
ties, no sacred rights, no family pleasures,
and is a cannibal; while as an American
slave he goes to church, sings psalms, laughs,
reads tracts, shoots birds, dances round the
plantation tires, and is the happiest laborer
I have ever witnessed in my extensive
travel. — (Cheers, and " That's so" from the
Southerners.) Will you admit that, as the
American slave never eats his own or other,
people's childi'en, that American slavery is
Christianity contrasted with the barbarism
of cannibalism? (Applause, "yes," and
" no," from two voices.) The Hon. Colonial
Secretary from Sierra Leone says no ; then
I will give him an opportunity of proving the
negative ; but I have with me a higher au-
thority that says yes. Although perhaps,
not strictly parliamentary, will you allow me
to read a letter received from one of the
most distinguished men of this century with
whom I have been corresponding, which
admits what the gentlemen from the African
coast denies. The letter, gentlemen, is from
the distinguished poet and abolitionist, M.
Victor Hugo. You may remember his
celebrated picture on the John Brown raid
— simply a black fore-ground, with a man
hanging in the distance, while the light of
abolition is breaking in the sky beyond !
Victor Hugo wrote a letter to the engraver,
commemorating the act as the dissolution of
the American Empire. On this I wrote him,
proposing to prove to him, as I shall do to
you before I get through, that Mr. Seward's
prophetic Irrepressible Conflict, as inaug-
urated by the John Brown raid (in which
Mr. Seward was in no ivay implicated.) that
so far from destroying our republic it would
give it a lease for another hundred years.
(Cries of " Read, read.") I will translate it
into English.

" Your opinion, sir, is true upon the first
phase of slavery, but it is not all so in the
second. It is evident that slavery wrested
its prey from the eaters of human flesh, but
it has only progressed in regard to cannibal-
ism ; whenever it finds itself in the presence of
Christianism, and, above all, of human reason,
it must abdicate under penalty of becoming
monstrous. — The persistency of the South-
ern States in slavery is the greatest moral
deformity of the nineteenth century. (Ap-
plause.) You see, sir, that we differ in our
points of view. However I am not for that
less sensible to the sentiment of sympathy
expressed in your honorable letter in such
warm words, and I pray you to accept the
assurance of my esteem.

(Signed) "Victor Hugo.

"Hauteville House, Feb. 25, 1861."

In reply, I argued with him as with you,
by saying, as he admits the first phase of my

proposition, a system that rescues humanity
from man-eaters must have some divinity
in its origin — Religiously and morally, all
the heads under which I have classified the
arguments are subordinate to this — the bar-
barian meets civilized man and improves as
far as he can. Education may develop, but
cannot originate mind. Color is not the
only thing that marks him. You must first
put inside his thick skull nine cubic inches
more of brain! He may possess the two
hundred and forty-eight bones, the four hun-
dred muscles, the fifty-six joints on hands
and feet, the twenty miles of arteries that
make the white man — and those who ap-
proach them in summer will testify that
they also have the seven millions of pores
(laughter) ; but the brain, the organ of
thought is not there ; for the negro, while a
man in body, is in mind a child.

Three types of man landed in the Ameri-
can forests, and are well represented by
three classes of the horse tribe — the Indian
was the Zebra, you could never tame him; the
white man teas the Arab horse, the living pic-
ture of strength and progress (hear, hear) ;
the negro was the donkey (laughter), who did
the labor, and in that way carried out his
destiny.

All men are not born "free and equal."
I deny it. The Creator's plans cannot be
thwarted by a turn of words in the nation's
declaration of independence. Jefferson may
have intended to say that all white men were
born free and equal ; but if he did so he was
wrong, because they are not. All are differ-
ent — no two things are alike — no drop in
the ocean, leaf in forest, sand in mountain,
fish in sea, flower in garden. How, then,
can races be the same ? Each land has its
fauna, its flora, and its humanity. This has
been so in all ages. The Arab, the Egyptian,
the Negro, are as distinctly chiseled in the
monuments forty centuries ago as are the
wild dug, the greyhound, and the turnspit.
The type never dies! (Applause.) Geology
shows the different strata of the earth ;
ethnology teaches us the different strata of
men — the negro is the Paleozoic.

As there are no teachers, no schoolmasters,
no mechanics' associations, no Christian
ministers, nothing for the African to look up
to in Africa, how expect improvement,
morally or religiously, unless transplanted to
another climate, where his eyes, his ears,
and senses are taught, without much effort,
the common rudiments of education. Con-
centrate your thoughts on Lilliput, and
your mind becomes Lilliputian ; but centre
your gaze on Gulliver, and your views con-
sequently become Gulliverian! (Applause.)
My forty minutes are nearly exhausted, and
I ask you to run along the edge of my argu-
ment and tell me if I have not proved be-
yond the shadow of a doubt that American

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slavery to the Negro is a stepping-stone from
African barbarism to Christian civilization.
(Loud cheers, and "No" from Mr. Edwards.)
One gentleman says no, and yet all have
admitted, as I put bone and bone together,
and laid before you my plan, that, carrying
as you have done any portion of the argu-
ment in my favor, it naturally bears with it
the whole ; and the collateral issues that I
have raised were merely the veins, arteries,
blood, and flesh, that I have filled into the
framework ; and if I have occupied a few
minutes more, it is in order to put boots,
and trousers, and coat, and hat upon my
Christianized African, and let him stand be-
fore you an improved human being, with
nine cubic inches less of brain than the Cau-
casian race, that has assisted him up one
stepping-stone towards the temple of Chris-
tian freedom. (Cheers.)

But Mr. Edwards said no ! I will then
convince him, by firing another arrow in my
quiver. Read the recent parliamentary cor-
respondence of Dahomey, regarding the in-
human acts of that barbarous people. King
Gezo, not many months ago, died. In ac-
cordance with their usual custom, the great
king must have a great funeral. Seven
thousand negroes were to be tortured, mu-
tilated, and burned to ashes over the funeral
pile of the dead king — but owing to the high
price of slaves, arising from England's rav-
enous demand for cotton — (cheers) — still, as
you observe, at her old work of Christian-
izing the Heathen — (laughter) — negroes
commanded too high a price at Dahomey to
permit the royal treasury to luxuriate in
such gigantic torture, hence the successors
of the dead king tore away from their fami-
lies only eight hundred little children and
old men, young girls, and aged women, and
sacrified them with their instruments of tor-
ture in honor of the dead chief, in accordance
with the barbarous funeral rites of that un-
happy land !

By purchasing slave-grown produce, Eng-
land again did something for civilization in
this case, as she did three centuries ago,
when Sir John Hawkins landed his first
cargo on the American shore. (Laughter
and applause.) Now, as Mr. Edwards can-
not give me a single instance where any
American slave on the American plantation
has been sacrificed over the funeral pile in a
similar manner — or point to a single instance
of Cannibalism, he certainly must now admit
by this last shot in my locker, that a system
which does away with this inhuman practice
— that Lord Palmerston and Lord John
Eussell have in vain tried to uproot in Africa
— must be beneficial to the African barbar-
ian, and gives me the affirmative of the ar-
gument that The Negro is a stepping-stone
from African barbarism to Christian civ-
ilization.

Several speakers were on their feet at
once in reply — and each in his turn attacked
Mr. Train in the stronghold he had built
around his argument. He baffled his antag-
onists by the way he put the question — they
evidently looking at the debasement of the
white man more than the elevation of the
negro. So many were desirous of speaking,
Mr. Train moved the adjournment of the
debate to Monday evening, March 17th.
This was carried, and on that evening the
hall was packed — most of the speakers being
against Mr. Train — who rose to order, and
asked them not to argue on what he was
going to say, but upon what he had said.
He told them that he had paved one stepping-
stone— and asked them how they were able
to interpret his thoughts. " How do you
know," said he, "but what the real stepping-
stone is Universal Emancipation."

CONCLUSION OF MR. TRAIN'S
GREAT SPEECH ON SLAVERY.

Mr. Train says America's mission is for
white people — England's for blacks — hence
recommends Lord Shaftesbury to give his
attention to Africa — as a wider field for his
well-known philanthropy. This speech will
attract attention by the boldness of its
theories — and the new light he has thrown
upon some old ideas. As he has so often
foreshadowed events during the Revolution,
he may have again anticipated the policy of
the Administration.

Mr. Train, — Inasmuch, Mr. Chairman and
geutleman, as this is the fifth night of the
debate — and inasmuch as thirteen experi-
enced debaters have been firing hot shot into
the fortification I built around my argument
— while only two speakers came to my
assistance — and inasmuch as I adopted the
unpopular side of the question to give life to
the debate — the least I can expect is that
you will yield to me the same fairness you
have given to others — (hear, hear) — and not
interrupt me unless under mis-statement —
no matter how direct may be the fire of my
batteries — until I have fully satisfied you
that the point I took when opening the
debate has not in any point been assailed.
(Oh, and laughter.) I knew the result at the
start — I knew the question was so worded
that nothing could shake my position. —
Hence, as no one has confuted my argument
_(oh) — I have a right to demand the same
latitude in reply that you have accorded to
others — (hear) — and if I tread rather uncere-

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moniously on the prejudices of the English
people — you should remember how severely
I have been attacked. So fair play and no
favor— (hear and applause) — and I will do
my best to pay in gold the paper drafts
which have been made upon me — and if I
use the weapon of ridicule and satire, it is in
order to spice the logic and reason with
which I shall confound my enemies! (Hear,
hear.) In my opening speech I met their
figures of rhetoric with my figures of arith-
metic, making all admit the stepping-stone,
save those so blind that they would not see !
— That admitted, they wished me to go fur-
ther, hence ripped up the whole question of
the African slave-trade, West Indian eman-
cipation, aud American slavery. — Proving
my first step, to the satisfaction of every
intelligent mind, it may come to pass, before
I conclude, that I am more of an abolitionist
than you are. ("Oh," and cries of "You
have a queer way of showing it.") Does not
the order of nature give sensation before
thinking; — creeping before walking — crying
before language — and coarseness before cul-
ture — superstition before intellectual educa-
tion — experience before wisdom — and barba-
rism before civilization ? (Hear, hear.) So,
American slavery precedes the emancipation
of the African slave ? (Applause.) I kept
my argument rattling against the bull's-eye
of the question, while my opponents did nut
hit the target at all — hence it is useless for
me to bring any more facts to bear upon the
stepping-stone, — but will take up one by one.
as my memory serves me, the points of the
other debaters, in order to show how ridicu-
lous by a little analysis they can be made to
appear. (No personalities !) The gentle-
man says no personalities, and yet they have
endeavored to hammer me into a gold leaf.
— I did intend commencing at the alpha,
walking along towards the omega — but as
there are many new speakers here to-night,
I will reverse the argument, walking back-
ward snail-like, as some of the other speakers
have done (laughter), by taking up the last
debater. His great point was, that slavery
was based on piracy, robbery, debauchery,
and murder — hence it could have nothing to
do with Christianity.

Now, gentlemen, this is the platform on
which the world was built. (Oh ! and dis-
sent.) You dissent' — but here are a few
thousand years of history crowded into one
paragraph. — Cain murdered — Lot sotted —
Onau onanized — David Uriahized — Moses
plotted — and Jacob cheated — Solomon Mor-
monized — Noah inebriated — Peter lied —
Judas betrayed. — (Sensation.) — Yet, while
all these bad men were slave owners — each
representing a fair type of the Confederate
Cabinet — none of them were so debauched
in immorality as that cabinet have been by
Negro slavery, as to have been guilty of the

terrible crime of high treason against the
grandest government the world ever saw !
(Loud cheers.) The gentleman gave such a
picture of the African slave trade, showing
the manacled position of the slave, that an
ungenerous mind might have had the sus-
picion — as he comes from that enterprising
Nutmeg State of Connecticut — that he had
commanded a slaver, (laughter, and hear,
hear,) and the details he gave as to slave
owners selling negro babies by the pound,
might lead us to suppose that at some period
of his life, he was also directly interested in
the domestic slave trade as well. (Oh, and
laughter.) He says, while holding high my
country's flag during the reign of Secessia in
England, he was one of the loudest to cheer
me ; but he felt it to be a disgrace to be an
American — to hear the" Union champion
advocating negro slavery, (applause) ; and
yet, before I finish, I shall prove myself
more of au abolitionist than he is. (Hear,
hear, and prove it.) His abolitionism, like
Lord Shaftesbury's, is theoretical — mine
may prove practical — he talks, I act. — My
plan may benefit the slave by being honest,
while Exeter Hall abolitionism is the basest
kind of hypocrisy. (Oh, cheers, and dissent.)
He says, a great statesman, whose superior-
ity Mr. Train acknowledges — fell from the
height hehad raised himself in New England,
by selling himself to the slave owners, and
he compliments me by galvanising me into
so important a personage, that a storm of
indignation would reach me from Boston,
as greeted him there on his arrival from
Washington. — Now, Mr. Chairman, first,
I never acknowledged Mr. Webster my
superior. (Loud cheers, laughter and ap-
plause.) Second, My inherent modesty (re-
newed laughter.) would not allow me to
suppose — that my humble opinions would
stimulate the American people into exhibit-
ing any such feats of gymnastics as he has
pictured. (Laughter.) They did give up a
fugitive slave in my native city — aud by
obeying the sacred mandate of the law
under the Constitution — proved how little
cause the conspirators had for the ungodly
rebellion which agitated our land. (Cheers.)
Several speakers plunged into the horrors
of the middle passage as he had done.
Admit, that England for three centuries has
Macadamized the bed of the Atlantic Ocean
with the skulls of the negro. (Oh !) Admit
all these horrors that weigh heavy upon
England's shoulders, but acknowledge that,
had she allowed the same free trade in the
emigration of the black man, that regulates
other nices, how many millions of lives she
might have saved in her praiseworthy efforts
to Christianize the heathen. (Oh, aud
cheers.) It was the squadron on the coast
— the mistaken philanthropy, in making
the negro emigration illegal, that caused the

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horrors of the middle passage, while my plan
would have been to have opened the way in
comfortable ships like the Great Eastern —
[cheers) — which would have carried out the
Exeter Hall platform una more Christian
basis— (oh! and applause)— but with my
permission she shall not bring any more of
them to America. (Laughter.) America's
mission is to look out for white men, while
England's mission is to Christianize the
blacks. Why should England give all her
attention to slavery as it exists in America?
Why not talk with Portugal and the Em-
peror of Brazil ? Why not send their aboli-
tion speakers to Cuba instead of taking in
that old slave catcher and slave trader —
repudiating old Spain, whose Government
stocks she refuses to quote on the London
Stock Exchange— into a full partnership,
into the An»lo-Gallic tillibustering firm re-
cently established in the garden land of the
Montezumas ! (Cheers.) How is it that
England has no sympathies for her own col-
liers, her own miners, and hard-worked
operatives? (Oh!) How is it that Lord
Shaftesbury and the Duchess of Sutherland
have selected th's one race for their especial
protection? No word of kindness for the
white Circassian sold in the slave marts of
old Stamboul ! No pity for the poor Beers
in Southern Africa ! No thought of the
red Indian she formerly sold on English
soil — nor a word of pity for the dark native
of Hindostan, she sent to wear his life away
on the sugar plantations of the Mauritius.
No sympathy for the yellow-faced sou of
Confucius whom I have seen her kidnap in
the China Seas, and bear him away under
the philanthropic flag of England, through
similar horrors of the middle passage,
vividly described by the last speaker — to
perish on the dry arid rocks of the Chincha
Islands, where he digs the guano which is
sold in England to cultivate the soil in order
to give you food — (Cheers — or sells him
under the Coolie system to the Spanish
planter, where he ekes out a few years of
miserable existence, and lays him down in a
stranger grave, far away from the land of
his ancestors, with this simple epitaph —
worked to death through the Christian philan-
thropy of Exder Hall. (Oh! and hear,
hear.)

I say, why is it, gentlemen, that England's
sympathies are only for this Ethiope race?
1 will tell you— simply because it was fashion-
able—and one of my objects in bringing
forward this question is to smash the Eexter
Hall platform into so many pieces that its
most enthusiastic disciples will never be able
again to connect th m together. (Dissent.)
Abolitionism in England, means the destruc-
tion of the Western Empire! More hate,
envy, jealousy against the white race, than
sympathy, affection, or love for the black.

(Oh ! and cheers.) Northerner as I am by
birth and education, 1 have been so often
insulted at the hospitable table of England
in defending my country, my people, and my
flag against the question oft lie negro, which
was not a Northern institution, that it almost
made a pro-slavery man ol me, as my nation-
ality was sufficiently wide to cover all the
institutions of my country. (Cheers.) In
this. I agree with Webster. I know no
North, no South, no East, no West,— when
England abused America on account of an
institution which she has planted there— her
vituperations against my own laud were; too
apparent not to be offensive — and living in
England throughout the entire reign of Seees-
sia,l saw her inconsistency by falling sudden-
ly in love with the treacherous reptiles that
raised their fabric of treason on the corner-
stone platform of American slavery, and my
annoyance culminated into disgust, when I
saw Lord Shaftesbury refuse to attend a
meeting of clergymen in that same Exeter
Hall- a meeting of Christian preachers
called together to offer up prayers to Al-
mighty God for peace between England and
America! (Hear, hear.) You see that
when sixty millions of white people are to be
saved, Lord Shaftesbury does not wish to
embarrass the Government. (Shame.) Now
you have the secret of why I put this question
before you. It was to show the Dishonesty,
the Humbug, the Cant, of the Exeter Hall
disciples', who would involve sixty millions of
respectable white people in war to gratify
their selfish appetites for African charities.
("Oh." and "hear, hear!") Better be an
honest American slave than a dishonest
Anti-Slavery freeman ! Servitude like
happiness is only comparative — good is
comparative,— so is evil, — so is light, heat,
a i r> — all comparative. Liberty, when mis-
taken for license — servility when mistaken
for civility — is as bad as to place the servant
in the master's chair. The creator made the
world to suit himself— not Exeter Hall. —
His tenants were of his own choosing.
Having a taste for colors, as shown in the
rainbow, the dolphia, the flower-garden, and
the forest, he carried out his fancy in color,
shape, and capacity of man. — (Applause ) —
In nature large fish swallow little fish, — large
trees draw the sap from little trees —large
oceans drink up the rivulets, — so that race
that possesses most governing power, rules.
(Hear.) The negro never was Governor —
Americau slaves sleep under the palm tree —
quote scripture, and have fewer crimes than
any other race, — as the churning ot milk
maketh butter— as the ringing of the nose
bringeth blood— so England's Abolition non-
| sense was introduced on the Slave question
i in order to bring contention among the
| Americans. (Hear, hear, and applause.)
To show how well they have succeeded, I

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point you to the present Civil War, where
brother hews down brother with a blood-
thirstiness that ought to satisfy the most
rabid disciple of Exeter Hall. (Oh !) Leave
America alone for awhile — Withdraw thy
foot from thy neighbor's house, ye Abolition-
ists — lest lie be weary of thee and so hate thee!
— Let Lord Shaftesbury explain " the way
of the eagle in the air — the way of a ser-
pent on the rock— the way of a ship in the
waters of the sea " — before he tries to raise
the negro above the kitchen. Since Ham
rejoiced at Noah's intoxication — since Judah
dishonored his child— since Moses broke the
Commandments on the mountain — the negro
race has swept the house, made the fires,
done the cooking, and always gone out to
service. Tribulation worketh patience —
patience maketh experience — experience
bringeth hope. Hence, I believe, with Ed-
ward Everett, "that American slavery is to
be the ultimate civilization of Africa" —
Nature's laws are indestructible. The
Creator first made the inanimate world —
then the vegetable kingdom — then the ser-
pent tribe ; — out of them came the fish, then
the fowls of the air, then the brute creation ;
but his master-piece was man ! He divided
the world into two climates, and peopled it
with his children. I believe with Agassiz
that the world was peopled by nations, not
in pairs. As there were degrees in veget-
able, animal and mineral kingdoms, so he
instituted degrees in the human race. —
Naturalists point out our ancient stepping-
stones — the monkey — the ape — the baboon
— cutting oft the tail of the gorilla in order
to make the Australian — (laughter) — the
lowest type of man — then the African— the
Malayan — the Mongolian — the Caucasian —
making up that noble specimen of civiliza-
tion, the Englishman — (" hear," and ap-
plause) — finishing off with the progressive
type of man — who combines the virtues of
the past, and endeavors to avoid its vices —
the American! (Cheers and laughter.) One
gentleman asks if the separation of families
at the slave auction, and the sale of your
own flesh and blood, is an instance of civil-
ization ? Certainly not. Such is not now
the case — public opinion has become the
public law — families are not divided as in
former times. (" Oh !" and " It is not true !)
I know that I am right, gentlemen. I saw
the advertisement for the sale of the negroes
on Pierce Butler's estate in Georgia — in
bankruptcy — children were not separated
from their parents, nor wives from their
husbands, and, since which, this exception
has now become the rule. You are not the
first to speak about selling one's flesh and
blood — hence, I remind you of the law of
England, that permits you to seduce the
poor man's child, but only compels you to
pay two shillings and sixpence per week for

its maintenance. (No !) I say it is the law
of bastardy — (hear, hear) — and if the in-
human planter does dispose of his own flesh
and blood, as you have alleged, so long as
you continue to pay the present prices for
cotton, he does not sell his own offspring for
half-a-crown per week. (" Hear," laughter,
and cheers.) The slavery of your army
white man is more abject than the Southern
negro ! — " One is voluntary, the other is
not.") Exactly, hence the soldier who
would desert is as much a slave as the negro
— I believe there are as many slaves who
would not accept freedom as soldiers. The
slaves cling to their masters from affection;
while the soldier or the operative remains
solely for his food and raiment — what do
they care about their officers and employers,
or even sovereign, beyoud the protection or
support which, directly or indirectly, they
afford them ? The law obliges the one to
place himself in the ranks to be shot down,
and if he refuses, objects, hesitates — if he
dares to desert, or show the least insubor-
dination, he is strung up and put under the
lash ! The whip is applied oftener on the
Saxon soldier — if I may judge from your
newspapers — than on the American slave.
Augustine called poesy " the wine of de-
mons." Bacon says, " the mixture of a lie
doth ever add pleasure." What often ap-
pears mountains in the distance to the navi-
gator, proves to be vapor as you approach
— so the cruelties you picture to the Ameri-
can slave are simply the offspring of a
willing fancy. "It is ignorance and not
knowledge that rejects instruction ; it is
weakness, not strength, that refuses co-
operation "—so is it envy and not generosity
that stimulates abuse; jealousy against the
white man, not affection for the African,
that characterizes your abolition sentiments
— envy keepeth no holidays. You would give
me strength of memory which I cannot
claim, and the powers of debate which I do
not possess, were you to expect me to answer
all the sallies aimed at me during a five-
night debate, but I will show you the ab-
surdity of one or two similies advanced.

Mr. Edwards pictured a poor girl in her
dirty home in a dirty village, brought to
London by some noble lord — educated,
dressed in silks and satins — the price of
which was her loss of virtue, as illustrative
of the negro free in Africa, and a slave in
America. All this is beautiful in theory,
but its non application will be seen by my
asking a question. Might she not have lost
her virtue in the dirty home he pictured —
(hear, cheers, and laughter) — without the
collateral advantages of education, &c,
which he portrayed ? for it is not notorious
that the negro had lost his freedom in
Africa for centuries ? Negro enslaved ne-
gro before the white man entered the field ;

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and you will find upon the records of time
that 'Africa holds all the patents for the
original institution. (Hear, hear.) He
asked also if the education of the Jew boy,

Montn.ni. was a justification for the crime of
kidnapping. Now, Mr. Chairman, 1 ask of
you if the education of the Jews and prosti-
tution — however able Mr. Edwards maybe
to discuss these points — have anything to
do with American slavery? (Hear, hear.)
I answer them by relating a negro conver-
sation under a hen-roost. "Pompey! don't
you tink dat it am wrong to steal chicken
belongin' to odder people?" "Csesar! dat
am a great moral question, dat you or I hab
not de time nor de brain to lucidate. Pass
down another pullet." (Cheers, and loud
and continued laughter.) I have read all
the authors quoted and more — Lord Mun-
caster, Grosvenor Smith, Major Gray, Cap-
taiu Morseby, Major Denham, Clapperton,
Commodore Owen, Mr. Ashmun, Laird,
Eankin, Colonel Nicholls, Mr. Oldfield,
Captain Cook, Canot, and Dr. Livingston,
and others, all of whom described the
wretched state of the African, and the low
state of civilization there, proving beyond
dispute that there is a much wider field for
Lord Shaftesbury, Lord Brougham, Exeter
Hall, and Mr. Edwards in Africa, than they
would ever find in America. (Hear, hear.)
I appreciate Mr. Lee's honest views of abo-
lition more than I do his argument, that the
death of a friend of his increased population
— the man while living opposed his daugh-
ter's marriage— he was killed, the daughter
married and had children— hence increase in
census ! (Hear and laughter.) This would
hold good were we not aware that in Scot-
land, ''and some other Christian countries,
population had enormously increased with-
out any marriages appearing in the records.
(Loud laughter, and " That's so.") You
must admit the African is not as intelligent
as the Englishman — there are types in man,
degrees in nature. Y\ r ilberforce, Clarksou,
Romilly, Chauning, Wayland, Darwin, Phil-
lips, and even Mr. Lee — (hear, hear)— must
admit this ; they cannot believe the African
equal to the Caucassian. Can you make a
pointer out of a poodle ? Can you get a
peach out of a crab-apple? Can you grow
an oak from a pea nut? Can you change a
carrot into a melon ? Will a donkey pro-
duce an Arab horse ? Can you bring a
chicken out of an egg plant? Can you
make an engle out of a duck? or breed a
lion out of a pole cat? (Hear, hear.) No",
gentlemen, but under the Christianizing in-
fluence of modern science, it is much more
reasonable that England will introduce a
new trade of manufacturing silk purses out
of sows' ears. The Roman Novelist Petro-
nius, in Nero's time, described two literary
men, who wished to hide a robbery they had

committed on board a Levantine ship, by
covering themselves with ink, in order to
pass as Ethiopians, and thus escape ili'tec-
tion : — if color alone could transform our
shape, said Griton, it would be easy — arti-
ficial color besmears the body — but can we
fill our lips with an ugly swelling? Crisp
our hair with an iron ? Mark our forehead
with scars? distort our shanks into a curve?
and draw our heels down to the earth ? We
must do all these things or the lie will not
succeed. (Hear, hear.) But the hand of
time points towards the midnight hour, and
I must hurry on to my plan of abolition— so
emancipation must be gradual. (Applause.)
Of the fifty millions now in Africa, some
forty millions are still slaves. It was no
unusual thing in former days to see the pens
where the war prisoners were stored to fat-
ten preparatory to being eaten. They were
stall-fed for the market, and hung up and
cut up as you would sell a sheep or an ox.
Young girls were considered the greatest
delicacies, but when tough with age they
became beasts of burden. Guilty of all
crimes, accustomed to the lowest acts of
barbarians, always at war, strangers to
education, civilization, and Christianity —
brutalized by the lowest depravity — the
question arises, no matter what the motive,
has not his removal to America bettered his
condition, improved his morals, elevated his
mind? (Cheers.) Has not that been the
first step towards regeneration ? There can
be but one response ; and I have already
proved my case that American slavery lo the
negro is a stepping-stone from African
Barbarism to Christian Civilization !
(Cheers.) In conclusion, you are impatient
for me to prove myself an abolitionist.
(Yes ! and time!) I shall not do it by hav-
ing a servile war — or as you did it in the
West Indies — to quote the Times : " You
not only emancipated every negro in the West
Indies, but pretty nearly ruined every plan-
ter to hoot." Cochrane went too fast in his
New York speech when recommending the
arming of the slaves — and Cameron was
mistaken in dwindling down the glory of our
nation to an abolition war — and that dis-
tinguished statesman, who never held an
office, — that presidential politician, who
never made a speech — and that great gen-
eral who never fought a battle — Fremont,
— came within an ace of running the ship
upon the rocks in the breakers at St. Louis,
by pledging the Cabinet to a servile war.
(" Hear, hear," aud applause.) Robespierre
and Brisso, in 1791, tried the equalizing
principle in St. Dimingo— and Alison has
vividly painted the massacre, speaking of
the Haytian drama, " That negroes," said
he, "marched ivith spiked infants on their
spears, instead of colors ; they sawed asunder
the male prisoners, and violated the females

TRAIN'S SPEECHES ON SLAVERY AND EMANCIPATION.

on the dead bodies of (heir husbands. The
Cameron-Fremont policy would have pro-
duced similar anarchy on the Palmetto
plantations, had it not been summarily
checked by the strong arm of Lincoln, and
the wise policy of the Secretary of State—
and I cannot better express my sentiments
on this question than by using the very
words of Earl Russell three nights ago in
the House of Lords — I am — (said the noble
'• Earl in reply to Strathden) — sure that we
"are all anxious that the sin and stain of
" slavery should cease ; but there is nothing
" that we should look at with greater alarm
" than an insurrection of four million of peo-
ple — the devastations, the horrors, the
" pillage, the murders, which in the name of
'• liberty would be committed ! "We trust,
" when the present contest shall end, the
"emancipation of the negroes will be
"brought about by peaceable means without
" the loss of life or destruction of the pro-
" perty of their masters. (Cheers.) It is
" not owing to their masters that slavery now
"exists in the Southern States ; it is an
" inheritance which they derived from this
"country." (Hear, hear.) Such sentiments
are worthy of this great statesman, who
assisted by Argyle, and Gladstone, and
(Gibson — in carrying out the wishes of his
Queen in checking Lord Palmerston from,
plunging England into an uncivilized and
unchristian war with America. (Cheers,
and " Where is your plan of emancipation ?")
You shall have it, gentlemen, so plainly that
you cannot misunderstand it. — If you wish
to reclaim the swampy morass, cut off the
fountain that supplies it.-- 1 classify my
plan under four heads.

First — Abolish the African slave trade.
We have done evil that good may come.
Gordon is no more — the President has had
the nerve in showing his honesty in suppress-
ing that traffic, by baring his breast against
powerful combinations, and hanging the
first slaver ever executed under the laws of
piracy. (Hear and applause.) Second —
Having stopped the stream, we must drain
the swamp, and fence in the pool — don't
allow another foot of slave territory under
the Union — draw a line of fire around the
scorpion, by strong laws, so that he may
burn to death if he attempts to cross it —
these points cut off its supplies and fence it
in. (Hear, hear.) Thirdly — Under this
head I propose to emancipate the white
people first, the Oligarchy must be destroy-
ed. Now the Oligarchists are passing away
with every victory. (Applause.) The only
way to destroy this Oligarchy, and emanci-
pate the millions of white people it has kept
in check, is to cut off the political power of
slavery. (Cheers, and that's good.) Five
negroes must no longer give three votes to
the planter, in order to give him a position

in the councils of the nation, to hatch a plot
for its destruction. (Not Constitutional.)
Liberty was the acorn, and the Constitution
was the flower pot in which it was planted
— the sapling has out-grown its boundary —
and the Constitution can easily be amended,
so as to give the tree wider limits, now it
has arrived to manhood. (Cheers.) The
Seceding States have already lost their
charters through their treason, and as ter-
ritories might "again be admitted as States
under an amended Constitution. (Hear,
hear.) I now come to the fourth point —
having dammed off the streams, drained the
land, emancipated the white people, the
morass already begins to be a garden for
the African. "Now let us emancipate him.
(Cheers.) Let the States pass a law under
the guidance of the Constitution, compelling
the planter, as a slight tax upon his treason,
to give the slave his own labor one day in
the week, to work out his own freedom — his
price fixed at a fair value, and arranged
under guarantees that the slave shall have
that' day as wall as over hours to purchase
his liberty — this knowledge stimulates ambi
tion, gives him self-reliance, so that when he
has earned his freedom, he is also educated
to appreciate it. (Cheers.) The world will
have before them a plan— public opinion
will so act upon the planter that many will
emancipate such slaves as can take care of
themselves at once, the strong and active
negroes should be made to work out the
freedom of their parents and children where
they are unable to do it themselves. This
would strengthen the social ties, and, before
a generation passed over, all the slaves may
have educated themselves for freedom — the
loss of the slave's labor to the planter for
that day may raise the value of the cotton,
so that the consumer pay a portion of the
bill, and abolition England by purchasing
that cotton will have earned the credit she
has worked for so long, of bettering the
condition of the negro slave. (Cheers and
applause.) The swamp, gentlemen, will
soon be fertilized by the enterprising Yan-
kees, who will pour down to guide the
negroes in their labor, and by superior
industry make the Southern desert blossom
like the Northern rose. (Applause.) And
the Southern Cross will receive by this
means its fairly-earned Northern Crown.
(Cheers.) Delaware and the District of Co-
lumbia should emancipate their six thousand
slaves on next Fourth of July — (cheers) —
Missouri and Maryland follow suit on the
next Anniversary of Washington — (cheers)
Virginia and Kentucky must keep pace
with public opinion, in order to join all the
slave States in the great celebration of
I Eighteen-seventy-six, of General Emanci-
pation on the First Centenary of our
| Glorious Union. (Loud cheers.)

train's speeches on slavery and emancipation. 29

Iii reply to one honorable speaker, who
asked, if the slaves were set free at once, if
they would not organize a system of their
own— 1 thought that I had before proved
that the African will not work without a
master. The European combines and suc-
ceeds. The Asiatic race, also, understand
the power in part of working in concert.
But the African has no idea of a joint-stock
enterprise. They were always bondsmen —
but they must not be called slaves. The
work stinks almost as bad as the negro —
not quite— for the negro's pores are always
open ! Enslaving debases, I admit, the
enslaver — (hear, hear, and '-That's so - ') —
but. thus far, has elevated the slave. "True."
and hear.) The Africans never combine.
Persians. Asiatics, and Tartars have had
armies, but who ever heard of such a thing
as an African army, an African regiment,
an African bank, an African joint-stock
association of any kind? Be assured the
negro is a one-horse mind, with a one-story
intellect. (Laughter.) Under guidance,
they will work — alone, they wallow in idle-
ness. Nature never intended the negro to
be our master, or even our equal, but our
servants. Nature's plans are simple ; her
results are sublime. Every infant born is
another link in Nature's chain. Progres-
sion is her first law. The sun comes on,
and leaves us at the horizon, but is always
moving. Little things make great things.
Day breaks by degrees, and night comes on
under a regular law. Barbarism always
precedes civilization — (cheers) — mythology
comes before theology — superstition before
religion — ideal before the real — natural
before spiritual. The superior follows the
inferior throughout history; so freedom
must succeed slavery. (Loud cheers.) Asso-
ciation succeeds progression, and develop-
ment follows association. Creation is a
study. Man is linked with everything in
the animal, mineral, and vegetable world.
The grain of corn is planted in the spring —
it progresses, it associates, it developes.
Man eats it in the morning — at night it
becomes part of the blood, the flesh, and
the bone, and the next day a portion of the
brain — perchance a human thought working-
out some patent reaping machine. (Loud
applause.) The world is worked on a won-
derful system. The Creator made the negro
as well as his master, and in making him he
gave him bodily strength to make up for his
mental weakness. (Hear.) The old kings
and patriarchs of the Bible were bad men.
In our day such crimes would have sent them
to the gallows. (Laughter, and " Question.")
Who questions it? (Renewed laughter.)
Madame Tussaud would have had them all
in the Chamber of Horrors. (Applause.)
Their bondsmen did not fare so well as our
slaves. Good comes out of evil. Astrology

prepared the road for astronomy — alchemy
preceded chemistry — soothsaying foresha-
dowed prophecy — and priestly traditions
came before the wonderful realities of
modern science. What then prevents Ameri-
can slavery from showing the door to general
emancipation? (Cheers.) Where there is
now land all was once water — and where
there is now water all will sometime become
land. Time is the leveler. Time will emanci-
pate the negro. (Cheers.) The Almighty's
ways are all his own. Corn and flowers
may yet grow abundantly in the African
desert. The gospel of Jesus will yet Chris-
tianize the heathen. Perhaps as it is doing
through American slavery. (Hear.) The
lion and the lamb some day will lie down
together. Electricity will perhaps conduct
the locomotive at two hundred miles the
hour, as easily as it now sends messages as
many thousands at a flash. Some invention
will yet be made for this mysterious agency.
Lightning may yet conduct away all disease
from the home of man. The air itself may
be controled with as much facility as the
navigator sails his ship upon the waters.
Time is the greatest inventor, and having
convinced you— (No)-that American slavery
was one stepping-stone, it may turn out that
the American civil war will become another,
perhaps the great and last stepping-stone
which will bring universal freedom to the
slave. (Loud Cheers.)

Will you give me two minutes more ? —
(hear, hear, and yes)— it is only to ask Eng-
land to assist me in carrying out my plan-
charity begins at home, and I want to get
the Victor" Hugos, the Sutherlands, and the
clever George Thompsons, and JohnBrights,
of abolition, to get England to pass the fol-
lowing resolutions :

Resolved, That from this day we will not
wear a slave-grown cotton shirt — sleep be-
tween slave-grown cotton sheets — (hear) —
wipe our faces with slave-grown cotton
towels — use slave-grown cotton clothes on
our children — or slave-grown cotton hand^
kerchiefs ; that we will not wear a particle
of clothing— walk on a single carpet— or
have anything to do with any article that
requires a particle of slave-grown cotton in
its texture. (Cheers.)

Resolved., That we and our men-servants,
nor our maid-servants will not drink another
drop of slave-grown coffee, or put another
lump of slave-grown sugar in our tea.—
(Cheers.)

Resolved, That we will eat no slave-grown
rice, or corn, or grain. (Applause.)

Resolved, That we will never smoke an-
other slave-grown cigar — take another pinch
of slave-grown snuff— (laughter,) —or use
another pipeful of slave-grown tobacco in
the " Forum ;" (cheers, and bad for Comber,)

30 train's great speech on the pardoning of traitors.

— that the five and a half-millions sterling
revenue received for these articles be abol-
ished by prohibiting them altogether. —
(Cheers and applause.)

This will be consistency — I asked it for
my cause — for you cannot be consistent and
pay a direct premium in slavery, by buying
at high prices the product of the slave.
(Hear, hear, and that's so.) My argument
is closed. I thank you, gentlemen, for your
courtesy and your attention, and ask you if
I have not gone further than you have done
in my abolitionism? (Hear, hear.) If not,
I will conclude by saying, once for all, that
I would do away with the Christian mode of
civilizing the heathen (loud cheers) ; and that
you may thoroughly appreciate how much of
a reformer I am, I may mention that I would

go further — I would also do away with the
rumshops — close the opium-dens — I would
abolish courts and prisons — I would have no
bastards — no paupers — no Cyprians — no
drunkards — I would do away with dice-box
and cards — with envy, hatred, jealousy, slan-
der, and all uncharitableness — I would seek
to improve mankind by sweeping away vice
and crime, and substituting virtue and hap-
piness ; and most assuredly I would do away
with this accursed plan that England has
introduced into our country of elevating the
black-man by a system which has debased
the white race, until it finally culminated in
the most damning treason (loud cheers) ever
recorded on the archives of time against the
grandest Republic humanity has ever wit-
nessed ! (Loud and continued cheering.)

GEORGE FRANCIS TRAIN ON "PARDONING TRAITORS."

"WOULD CIVILIZATION BE ADVANCED BY THE SOUTH
GAINING THEIR INDEPENDENCE?"

[From the London American of March 12, 18G2.]

" "Would civilization be advanced by th
South gaining their Independence?" was
the question discussed on Monday evening,
March 10th, where Dr. Johnson once held
forth: — "Sir," said he to Boswell, "let us
take a walk down Fleet street."

Mr. Train: — Nine speakers have already
spoken for the North, and none for the
South. Whence this change ? A few
weeks ago. and you were all Secession ;
now, everybody is for the Union. (Hear.)
As no one has touched upon the question in
the paper, why should I ? All you can ex-
pect is, that I should talk America, and
wander from point to point as others have
done — (laughter) — but I hail this change of
tone as a happy omen. (Hear.) If a few
salaried writers form public opinion in the
Times — making England despise America —
why should not the clever debaters that fre-
quent this hall be allowed to represent the
masses of your nation? (Hear, hear.)

ENGLAND HAS TURNED ENTIRE-
LY ROUND.

England has turned completely round —
the Trent has drawn all her fire — Mason
drops down here like a spent shell — and
our lands are bound to be more friendly
than ever. (Hear.) I speak the voice of
our people, when I tell you that none of us,
disgusted as we may have been at your
neutrality — (laughter) — eudorse the strange
speech of Lovejoy. (Cheers.) A pupil of

the Shaftesbury school — and remembering
that his brother was shot over his Abolition
printing press in Illinois — you will not blame
even him for feeling annoyed to see England's
apparent forgetfulness of slavery, in sympa-
thizing with the slave oligarchy that sought
the ruin of our empire. (Hear.)

RISE AND DECLINE OF SECESSION
IN ENGLAND.

I am glad to see that Secession is dead
in England ; Russell settled it in his block-
ade letter — and its rise and progress during
twelve months is noticeable by Gregory's
motion last year to acknowledge the Con-
federacy — and this year vainly trying to put
a question as to the blockade being effective !
— Yancey's advocacy was weak as water ;
but Mason's letter was water diluted. It
turns out that the six hundred ships that
run the blockade were a few fifty ton
schooners on the inland estuaries, and
steamboats between Memphis and New
Orleans! (" Oh," and " question.") Civi-
lization was the point, and as every speaker
has dodged it, you, of course, expect me to
take it up. Well, then, the South does not
possess the elements of civilization. (Oh.)

THE SOUTH UNABLE TO STAND
ALONE.

If they cannot get on with the North —
what can they do alone? They want a
standing army and free trade ! — that is a
paradox. They want an oligarchy and im-
migration — that is a contradiction — for emi-

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grants will not go where they have no
representation. (Hear.) They want open
ports and manufactures — that is also an-
other impossibility. Even let them carry
out their plans, and the Government is at a
dead lock, for revenue— an export duty on
cotton is an import duty in another form.
(That's so.)

IT IS WITHOUT THE ELEMENTS
OF CIVILIZATION.

Besides, as I said, the South has not the
elements of civilization. (Oh — and hear.)
Where are they then? Let the gentleman
who interrupts me take all the advantage of
his interruption and answer me if he can.
(Hear, hear.) Is it in jurisprudence?
Where are their Storys — their Kents — their
Wheatons — their Parsons and their Bige-
lows ? (Hear.) Is it in Finance ? Where
are their Bateses — their Peabodys— their
Browns and their Sturgesses ? Is it in
Commerce? Where are their Goodhues —
their Taylors — their Forbeses — their Apple-
tons and their Grinnels. (Cheers.) Is it
in shipbuilding ? Where do you find their
Webbs — their Mackays, and their Wester-
velts. Is it sculpture ? Where are their
Greenoughs — their Hosmers — and their
Powers. (Applause.) Is it in painting?
Where are their Alstons— their Stuarts, and
their Benjamin Wests ? (Cheers.) Is it in
man ufactures? There are no Manchesters,
and Walthams, and Lowells, and Lawrences
in the South. (Hear, hear.) Is it in his-
tory? Where are their Bancrofts — their
Prescott — their Sparks, and their Mot-
leys? I can see nowhere in Secessia the
elements civilization requires. Is it in ro-
mance? Where are their Washington Ir-
vings — (Cheers.) — their Fennimore Coopers,
and their Hawthornes? Is it in poetry ?
Show me where to find their Holmes — their
Willises — their Lowells and their Longi'el-
lows— (Cheers.) — Is it in Inventions ? Who
filled the Exhibition of Fifty-one with im-
provements that still live in England ?
(Hear and applause.) Where did McCor-
mick hail from? where Colt? whence came
the Enfield Rifle ?— Was Ilobbs a South-
erner ? and who furnished the Secession
Times and Telegraph and three-fourths the
Journals in London with presses to abuse
America during the Reign of Secessia,
but our Northern Colonel Hoe. (Cheers.)
Where was the Niagara built? and was
the Yacht America a Southern Institution?
(Hear, hear.) No — gentlemen — these are
some of the elements of our Yankee civili-
zation — peculiar to our Yankee climate,
and Yankee habits not yet appreciated in
Secessia. (Cheers.) Is the common school
system of New England an element of
Southern civilization ? The South alone
benefit civilization ! — Why, Mr. Chairman, I

have proved its absurdity. Bearing in mind
the debate on previous evenings, I will
answer one or two Secession fallacies. The
gentleman from Australia says that no black
man in the North would be allowed to enter
a room like this for public discussion, and
this in face of the fact that there are two
negroes admitted at the bar in Boston, and
have practised there for several years.

WE DO NOT WANT CANADA.

He also spoke of America's intentions re-
garding Canada. — America wants nothing
from Canada. — The two lauds are as differ-
ent as the two people — one is day — the
other night. (Laughter and hear.) One
is going to a funeral — the other a wedding.
One is the old world without any progress
by assenting with the new. In Canada they
can't even make a barrel. (Laughter.) — •
The only great thing accomplished there is
about the grandest swindle of this, the nine-
teenth century, the Grand Trunk Railway.
(Oh, and hear.) Another spoke of unjust
representation, citing Rhode Island — Con-
necticut — Vermont, and New Hampshire,
with a small population having so many
electoral votes ; and yet he omitted to men-
tion that Arkansas — Texas — Florida pur-
chased of Spain — Louisiana bought of
France — and Texas of the Mexicans — have
equal representation in the Senate of the
United States. (Hear.) Original Secessia
entire with its six hundred thousand square
miles of country, has but two millions seven
hundred thousand white people — while New
York, with but forty-seven thousand square
miles, has a population of three millions
eight hundred thousand, and Pennsylvania,
forty-six thousand square miles, has a popu-
lation of two millions nine hundred thou-
sand. (Applause.) These two States alone
have more population than the Two Seces-
sias, and ten times the wealth. (Cheers.) —
Little Massachusetts has a bank capital of
fifteen millions sterling, while all Secessia
boasts of but thirteen millions ! (Applause.)

THE REBELLION A GIGANTIC
HUMBUG.

I tell you the Rebellion is a gigantic hum-
bug— (laughter)— a gigantic sham ! — where
are their successes? (Bull Rim, Ball's
Bluff— question, and laughter.) Must I
again tell you that the nation was sold
at Manassas, by treachery, as General
Stone sold his country" at Ball's Bluff?
(Shame.) But are we alone in reverses?
Look at England ! at Peiho ! at Cawnpore !
at Cabul aud at the Redan ! (Hear.) Look
at Russia in Circassia — France in Algeria-
Austria in Italy, and now the Spaniards in
Mexico ! Surely we are not alone— The
Pretender with two thousand Scots frighten-
ed all England a century ago! Our seven
hundred thousand soldiers only allow— so

32 train's great speech on the pardoning of traitors.

gigantic is our territory — but one man to
every mile and a half of border.

AMERICA MERELY HAS THE
VARIOLOID.

Lamartine eloquently observes — every
Revolution has its birth — every birth its
pang — every pang its groan ! All nations
have their diseases. — We are just going
through the varioloid — (laughter) — having
passed the scarlet fever, measles,, and chic-
ken-pox on the heights of Abraham —
(laughter)— and the plains of Saratoga. —
(Cheers.) Our tree of liberty is sound at
the core. — We are only shaking off the cat-
terpillars that have so long disfigured its
branches. (Hear, and applause]

WASHINGTON AND CROMWELL
VOLUNTEERS.
I am tired of listening to England's sneers
about our volunteers. You seem proud of
your hundred and fifty thousand men —
(cheers) — let us take the same ratio of glory
for our volunteer millions. (Laughter and
applause.) Sneer not at the volunteers —
Washington was a volunteer — so was Robert
Clive at the battle of Plassey — and Oliver
Cromwell was not educated at the Horse
Guards. (Laughter.) The two-spot is too
muck for the ace of clubs if it happens to be
a trump.

SEPARATION NOT NECESSARY.

One speaker thinks that civilization would
follow separation, on the ground that States
become too large to be prosperous. Hence
he agrees with Bulwer in breaking America
into parts. England, to say the least, has
never followed that plan.. (Hear.) She went
to India in Elizabeth's time, and put Prince
against Prince, until she was enabled to
absorb the entire empire of two hundred
millions. (Cheers.) Had she gone on your
theory — India would be off the reel long ago
—and Australia — and Canada — and Ireland !
— Again, what a spectacle of weakness the
petty Principalities of Germany — Central
and South America present — compared to
the consolidated strength of seventy millions
in Russia — and forty millions iu France — or
even England herself, with an empire on all
the oceans ! (Cheers.)

REBELLION, FIRST PALSIED,
NOW DEAD.

No, Mr. Chairman, the revolution is dead
It received its first attack of paralysis —
when Congress voted five hundred thousand
men — and five hundred millions of dollars !

(Cheers.) It experienced its second attack
when, after the Trent affair, England and
France refused to acknowledge their inde-
pendence. (Applause.) And now comes
apoplexy and death, when the Commander-
in-Chief of the Army and Navy sounded the
bugle and gave his order to his Lieutenant —
Charge, McClellan, charge ! — On to Ma-
nassas, on ! — were not the last words of
our Presidential Marmion ! (Cheers.) The
world will shortly see how gigantic has been
the success of the North — (Oh, and where)
— and how gigantic the failure of the South !
Secessia was a sham at the start, and > has
been a sham all through the revolution.
(Oh, and interruption.)

AMERICA CAN AFFORD A GIGAN-
TIC PARDON.

Now, as America goes to war in a gigan-
tic way, I am prepared to show for once in
our great strength — gigantic clemency!
(hear) — and suggest that as we have killed
Secessia that we still keep our originality in
doing things differently from Europe — by
giving our erring fellow-citizens — a gigantic
pardon ! (Loud cheers.) England sends
her rebels to Tasmania — France to Cayenne
— and Russia to Siberia — but let America
follow out the good work she has begun in
liberating all the State prisoners in Fort
Lafayette — Fort McHenry, and Fort War-
ren — and pardon all the traitors, without
any security for the future but the sentiment
of Union. (Cheers.) Hanging is really too
good for them. (Laughter.) They ought
to be compelled to live among those they
have deceived, and obliged to associate with
their own kindred. (Laughter) — No more
terrible punishment could assail them. — If
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find it out. (Laughter.) Let one sister go
astray, and there is no more happiness for
her in her father's household. — Let one boy
at school have a patch on his breeches, and
every boy will chalk the place, (Laughter.)
Pass through a village and they will tell you
where the Gambler lives — where the Cyprian
receives her guests — where the murder was
committed — all these haunted spots are
pointed out "with scorn to be shunned by
honest men. (Hear.) So let the President
pardon all the traitors and compel them to
reside in their own localities among the
Union men they have been kept under by
the strong arm of powder and ball, and jus-
tice will soon find its proper measure in tar
and feathers ! (Laughter and question.)

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