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Vets and Families Speak Out at the White House Gates Against Iraq War, 10/29/05
Event sponsored by the World Can't Wait White House Encampment
Speakers include: Stephen Potts, DC, Air Force Military Academy graduate, active duty 1998-2003; Elaine Brower, Staten Island NY, Marine son served 4 years in Afghanistan, now facing deployment to Iraq; Dour Nelson, DC, Vietnam veteran, Army 1967-71; Joe Urgo, NYC, Vietnam veteran, US Air Force Security Police 1968, one of the organizers of the 1971 Winter Soldier Investigation into US war crimes; Leonard Shelton, Ohio, retired Marine, active duty Persian Gulf War 1990-91; Anton Black, Seattle, US Navy 1977-83, member Vietnam Veterans Against the War - Anti-Imperialist.
Event sponsored by the World Can't Wait White House Encampment
Speakers include: Stephen Potts, DC, Air Force Military Academy graduate, active duty 1998-2003; Elaine Brower, Staten Island NY, Marine son served 4 years in Afghanistan, now facing deployment to Iraq; Dour Nelson, DC, Vietnam veteran, Army 1967-71; Joe Urgo, NYC, Vietnam veteran, US Air Force Security Police 1968, one of the organizers of the 1971 Winter Soldier Investigation into US war crimes; Leonard Shelton, Ohio, retired Marine, active duty Persian Gulf War 1990-91; Anton Black, Seattle, US Navy 1977-83, member Vietnam Veterans Against the War - Anti-Imperialist.
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December 4, 2022
Subject: WE NEED ONLY ONE TRUTH TO END WAR FOREVER!
The truth or true doctrine about true reincarnation can single-handedly make an end of war forever!
I am praying the Chinese will go deeper in their awakening to as far as deeper spiritual truths. And not just about their pains regarding the atrocities of the communist ruling party.
There's more deeper things to protest.
Example: war.
Each Chinese needs to come to see the invalidity of war as a course of action.
If each Chinese, and each human being for that matter, has only known the truth about true reincarnation, e.g., that each of us has had many lifetimes already and that in the past, we at least once was a German, a Chinese, a Russian, an American, etc., then, we would not be using racism (hatred against another race) as our basis of our behavior and decision to go to war!
We all need to know the true teaching about true reincarnation because it holds the secret knowledge and memories and experiences of our being already a multi-race individual after each of us has embodied or was born in every race/ country!
To end all wars forever, does not require dozens of truths, just this one can end war forever.
True reincarnation was taught in China before Buddhism, Taoism, Confucianism replaced the true original religion of China thousands of years earlier with Shang Di (Most High) as their true God.
I am happy that China is opening herself to Christianity. But it must be the true Christianity that teaches true (re-)incarnation. The Lord's own version of the gospel, The Great Gospel according to Jesus Christ thru John, contains this teaching. It is a thick book, 7,500 pages while the Christian Holy Bible has only 1,100 pages.
You can download this thick book for free. Its shortened name is "The Great Gospel thru John".
Subject: WE NEED ONLY ONE TRUTH TO END WAR FOREVER!
The truth or true doctrine about true reincarnation can single-handedly make an end of war forever!
I am praying the Chinese will go deeper in their awakening to as far as deeper spiritual truths. And not just about their pains regarding the atrocities of the communist ruling party.
There's more deeper things to protest.
Example: war.
Each Chinese needs to come to see the invalidity of war as a course of action.
If each Chinese, and each human being for that matter, has only known the truth about true reincarnation, e.g., that each of us has had many lifetimes already and that in the past, we at least once was a German, a Chinese, a Russian, an American, etc., then, we would not be using racism (hatred against another race) as our basis of our behavior and decision to go to war!
We all need to know the true teaching about true reincarnation because it holds the secret knowledge and memories and experiences of our being already a multi-race individual after each of us has embodied or was born in every race/ country!
To end all wars forever, does not require dozens of truths, just this one can end war forever.
True reincarnation was taught in China before Buddhism, Taoism, Confucianism replaced the true original religion of China thousands of years earlier with Shang Di (Most High) as their true God.
I am happy that China is opening herself to Christianity. But it must be the true Christianity that teaches true (re-)incarnation. The Lord's own version of the gospel, The Great Gospel according to Jesus Christ thru John, contains this teaching. It is a thick book, 7,500 pages while the Christian Holy Bible has only 1,100 pages.
You can download this thick book for free. Its shortened name is "The Great Gospel thru John".
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January 14, 2022
Subject: Subject: With all due respect to military and vets.
Subject: Subject: With all due respect to military and vets.
I agree completely with what you folks are doing; If not for 100,000's of protesters like you ending the draft of young men into Vietnam, it would still be ongoing! Your points are valid, what's pending are all those horrible after effect diseases from bio-weapons, like Dioxin 'Agent Orange" chemicals like benzene, Napalm and nuclear weapons killing the Mid-East vets just as what cripples and kills Vietnam vets. US was using tac nukes in Vietnam in violation of SALT! Nuclear radiation, chemical, bio-weapons and worse then as now but much worse now with depleted Uranium and 5th generation misc. exposures VA & USA deny proper!! I am dying from those diseases completely abandoned by Amerika and Nazi dept. of Veterans Affairs! Korea precursed Vietnam and on. Over 7 times the number of deaths in Vietnam have since died by suicide than died in the war because of US and VA abandonment. I have stared from the end of a 4' rope around my neck at an 8' drop to end my pain and suffering. I refuse to allow VA & US to make their failures a second Amendment issue to mention other ways I have tried other means such as looking down the barrel and one pull out of this shithole, if you get my drift. For all you simpletons who say call for help!!! Nada! VA sends a SWAT team to your house, 'crazy armed vet.' Their hands are clean of liability. Not another veteran suicide mind you. Another cop killing an enemy of the state terrorist' end of story. Today like yesterday is another 24 hours of pain; should I be cursed to awaken tomorrow, ditto. All suicide attempts were unsuccessful...I still have a purpose here, perhaps to write this, I must fulfill before leaving this hell. Nobody leaves here without owner permission. '5 to 9,' baby, '9 to 5' nobody leaves this place alive.' Jim Morrison. But only after our owners' open the door for you go. Every war is the same except for different faces, families, places and national cemeteries' to bury the body bags, hokey slogans, and new eras of walking dead veterans wandering US streets, hanging by a rope around their neck on the street lights, rotting away in alleys drunk, doped, homeless, imprisoned, neglected derelicts while phony American patriots ignore and harm them. Patriotism is last refuge of a coward sacrificing other people's families for their free ride and lunch; WAR is good business - invest someone else's families, sons and daughters while waving a plastic flag, stuffing hog slop into their pig faces. 98% of Amerikans can't tell you difference between Veterans or Memorial days. Amerikan's never have been concerned about what their actions do to other people until it happens to them. One young woman of this protest group said, '...they [Americans] need to get out of their houses into the real world.....' I agree except more vociferously - they need to get their fat heads out of their ever expanding fatter asses and do something!!! However, most sit on those fat asses in the bread, wine and circus tents feeding their faces content to watch between another swig of swill and puff of smoke stuffing their faces with pig slop & swill until consequences hit them between the eyes on the way to slaughter. The ultimate US betrayal of every soldier and veteran came on January 21, 1977 when Neo-Socialist Jimmy Carter announced death of America and birth of Amerika. Socialists are never wrong so scapegoated all US military for loss of a Socialists war in Vietnam. That War and betrayal belonged to US Socialists in toto!
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On January 21, 1977, President Jimmy Carter, in his first full day in office, fulfilled a campaign promise by granting unconditional pardons to hundreds of thousands of men who had evaded the draft during the Vietnam War by fleeing the country, burning draft cards and refusing to go, or by failing to register with their Selective Service boards.
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HERE IS SOME MORE SPARE CHANGE TO COUNT!!
Most posts about this subject is from Slacktivist attention whores looking for approval from readers. Like social media likes and dislikes. Narcissistic, 'All about me' attention whores saying hey look at me world! 'Ain't' I great cheering with everyone else in 'Me-too' fads while waving the current flag. Go pimp your bitch ass somewhere else, dude or dudette. Present protest group excluded; you folks are sincerely trying to change things! To the rest here is my voice to you.
Heartfelt accolades When 'Johnny and Jill come marching home' in body bags or as crippled, living dead is not help! It is pointless, lazy, stereotype porn, and slacktivism. 'We the English and US sheeple are accountable for what our governments do!! We give them our blessings to conduct ongoing, endless wars! It is too easy scapegoating govt and crazy politicians instead of looking into the looking glass reflection at each one of us; the blood stains our hands!!! Why are we not doing more to proactively end the ongoing wars and to help the living dead after they get out of military instead of touchy-feely sentiments that do nothing for us in real life: slacktivism is not help. Do your home work about what is really happening to abandoned veterans in USA; from what I read Great Britain/England has the same veteran abandonment problems as USA, in that both countries treat us like the proverbial ignored 'Elephant in the Room' nobody wishes to talk about or see. Willful blindness and stupid denial!! In USA 100 veterans a day suicide from US and US Dept. of Veterans Affairs abandonment. That agency plays bingo numbers of 18 one day, 20 another, finally settling on the magic 22 vet suicides a day. Those numbers are cooked to death and phony as a 3 dollar bill to confuse people of true count: 100 vet suicides a day. The figures will lie and liars will figure their games. Totally omitted from their numbers are the three US states with highest vet suicides of the whole nation: Texas, California and Florida, proper. VA excludes anything to justify its post hoc phony argument!! Countless vets estimated in hundreds of thousands are chronically homeless, have drug addiction and alcoholism problems dealing with trauma, pain, etc. Another 'Elephant' nobody can answer is with so much 'help' claimed for vets, why are they literally dying by hundreds of thousands each year for lack of it? Why did over 300,000 vets die on VA secret waiting lists denying them access and care? Why are malpractice, wrongful death suits and much more crimes totaling billions of judgements paid with taxpayer dollars skyrocketing straight up without pause? Why does a 72 year old Feres Doctrine still deny harmed active duty soldiers and their families total denial of redress for crippling injuries up to friendly fire deaths by military leadership negligence? VA is a bastard mutant of Feres in its delay, deny until they die meant to hide Feres from public and potential enlistee knowledge! Why are there so many 'Plaintiff vs VA' civil tort lawsuits seeking damages and worse? VA's adjudication Kangaroo courts are a sham and fraud so people resort to costly civil tort. The agency then sandbags to keep them pending for decades until plaintiffs give up, die or VA is forced to settle, which again it simply ignores redress. US congress has told the agency to pay Agent Orange victims and VA ignores them proper! Right here on IA are pages of 'plaintiff vs VA' suits pending with thousands more in public domain. Why are not recruits or potential enlistees briefed of Feres Doctrine before enlisting or during on boarding to active duty? Why is it purposely hidden and why the deceit of hiding it for 72 years at all? Before internet very few knew about Feres until deep in trouble when Uncle Sam says, "so sad, too bad we are protected and immune for negligence damages by Feres!' Now with that knowledge harmed victims are passing the information out creating a groundswell movement to sunset and abolish Feres injustices that have harmed veterans and still do for almost a century!! VA awards few disabilities in its Kangaroo claims & adjudication process. Millions of Vietnam soldiers languished and died horrible deaths from toxic exposures like Agent Orange Dioxin exposures, had birth defect babies after exposure and while on VA's deny, delay, sandbag until they die lists. I am one of those abandoned & dying from those horrid diseases. Most are now extinct but following us are those in Mideast wars dying from worse toxic exposures from depleted uranium, chemicals, bio-weapons and more who get the same short-shaft from US govt, Feres and VA. Same story, different faces, places as means to the same end: FUBAR, SNAFU and for suffering, dying, soldiers, the game bell goes ding! Vets you lose again. Dioxin is now classed as a deadly bio-weapon! Google 4th generation of Vietnam babies as consequences of Dioxin exposed ancestors during Vietnam War that US sprayed on allies and enemies alike. US veterans produce the same damaged babies as the Vietnam survivors and that gets covered up. That stuff alters & destroys genome and passes on through countless generations of babies. Vietnam is on 4-5th generation and no one knows how far that rabbit hole goes! So do all the rest of aforewritten exposures. Look right here on IA. There is a post titled 'A Love letter to America from Agent Orange babies.' After reading that post if you don't shed at least one tear of anger, you are not human. More posts about that exist right here and on the open net! That should be easy for you in Great Brtain for US censors such data to keep US sheeple blind to their sins. Americans never have been concerned about how their actions negatively affect other people until it happens to enough of them I can go on but you should get my drift by now; my question is why not spend your emotional moments and protests against the wars by doing something proactive about the mess under your noses? Unless action follows slacktivist intent, you are spitting upwind and getting wet by your hypocrisy. America is land of hypocrites, phony heroes, slacktivism, a nation of brave cowards taking free ride and lunch on someone else's sacrifice. Their patriotism rides on someone else's kids and families paying the price, and that is those you publicly mourn about. The living dead of us still need real help, not lip service, memorials or broken promises!! Nothing can help the dead; the dead know nothing; they do not feel pain. We living dead live with pain 25/8/366 a day. Suicide to end it, yes!! One can only tolerate so much pain, when today is same as yesterday and if cursed to be alive, tomorrow is the same as before! So, one asks what is the point of carrying on; suicide is painless and ends suffering! Suicide is not cowardly; cowardly is the people and institutions that torture, profiteer and abuse someone so badly s/he takes their life. Only America and VA can sink so low in the sewer profiteering form vet suffering and suicide. The lucky came back in body bags....the living dead do feel pain especially the agony of betrayal by the Nation and sheeple we suffer and die for every day. America died and Amerika was born 01/21/1977 by Neo-socialist Jimmy Carter's national address to American sheeple betraying all US military sacrifices past, present and future. US govt, VA and lame-stream mass media label vets as terrorists, crazy gun toting nuts and more to scare public away from us. So you will accept the poisoned pill of their propaganda and reject truth! Why, because we vets will tell you the truth as I have done so right here. Most of us have figured out who is the real terrorist and enemy. It is not what the rest of you think!! America contrary to propaganda fed to its kids from cradle to grave is not great and never was. The longest, bloodiest, genocide in human history did not occur in Nazi Germany; It happened on US soil! 180-220 million red skinned native American Indians were butchered because of their skin color, their land and way of lives & heritage were destroyed forever. Hitler was a piker compared to America. The original nations were hunted to brink of total extinction before a spark of sanity stopped the massacre in 1900. Over 98% of original nations were wiped off the earth taking their heritage with them. Survivors were herded into concentration camps called Indian Reservations to wither away and die. Are you full of America behind the phony 'white had gold star' illusion it paints of itself? The US nation has committed over 100 massacres on US soil and many more off shore. All that is censored to its children. Native American nations teach truth to our young: 'The free children drive the free; the free drive our free children in knowing the truth.' Knowledge of truth sets them free! Not living in fantasies like the rest of American kids!!! We pass our heritage to our children via methods 100's of thousands of years old. They know the truth before education propaganda ministries get hold of them. Assimilation takes a toll but not in toto. American slaves living in their bread, wine and circus tents made to enslave them love lies, sweet little lies; not reality and truths. The perfect slave is one who says, "I am not a slave!"
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addendum
Several years ago, headlines exposed stories of veterans dying due to delayed care. In 2015, the VA issued a report admitting that 307,000 veterans had died while waiting for the agency to process their enrollment requests. This followed stories of 40 veterans dying, with more than 1,400 more waiting for appointments, at VA health-care facilities in Phoenix. In an elaborate scheme, VA managers tried to cover up their malfeasance. Disband the Veterans Administration Steve Cohen
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On January 21, 1977, President Jimmy Carter, in his first full day in office, fulfilled a campaign promise by granting unconditional pardons to hundreds of thousands of men who had evaded the draft during the Vietnam War by fleeing the country, burning draft cards and refusing to go, or by failing to register with their Selective Service boards.
--------
-------
HERE IS SOME MORE SPARE CHANGE TO COUNT!!
Most posts about this subject is from Slacktivist attention whores looking for approval from readers. Like social media likes and dislikes. Narcissistic, 'All about me' attention whores saying hey look at me world! 'Ain't' I great cheering with everyone else in 'Me-too' fads while waving the current flag. Go pimp your bitch ass somewhere else, dude or dudette. Present protest group excluded; you folks are sincerely trying to change things! To the rest here is my voice to you.
Heartfelt accolades When 'Johnny and Jill come marching home' in body bags or as crippled, living dead is not help! It is pointless, lazy, stereotype porn, and slacktivism. 'We the English and US sheeple are accountable for what our governments do!! We give them our blessings to conduct ongoing, endless wars! It is too easy scapegoating govt and crazy politicians instead of looking into the looking glass reflection at each one of us; the blood stains our hands!!! Why are we not doing more to proactively end the ongoing wars and to help the living dead after they get out of military instead of touchy-feely sentiments that do nothing for us in real life: slacktivism is not help. Do your home work about what is really happening to abandoned veterans in USA; from what I read Great Britain/England has the same veteran abandonment problems as USA, in that both countries treat us like the proverbial ignored 'Elephant in the Room' nobody wishes to talk about or see. Willful blindness and stupid denial!! In USA 100 veterans a day suicide from US and US Dept. of Veterans Affairs abandonment. That agency plays bingo numbers of 18 one day, 20 another, finally settling on the magic 22 vet suicides a day. Those numbers are cooked to death and phony as a 3 dollar bill to confuse people of true count: 100 vet suicides a day. The figures will lie and liars will figure their games. Totally omitted from their numbers are the three US states with highest vet suicides of the whole nation: Texas, California and Florida, proper. VA excludes anything to justify its post hoc phony argument!! Countless vets estimated in hundreds of thousands are chronically homeless, have drug addiction and alcoholism problems dealing with trauma, pain, etc. Another 'Elephant' nobody can answer is with so much 'help' claimed for vets, why are they literally dying by hundreds of thousands each year for lack of it? Why did over 300,000 vets die on VA secret waiting lists denying them access and care? Why are malpractice, wrongful death suits and much more crimes totaling billions of judgements paid with taxpayer dollars skyrocketing straight up without pause? Why does a 72 year old Feres Doctrine still deny harmed active duty soldiers and their families total denial of redress for crippling injuries up to friendly fire deaths by military leadership negligence? VA is a bastard mutant of Feres in its delay, deny until they die meant to hide Feres from public and potential enlistee knowledge! Why are there so many 'Plaintiff vs VA' civil tort lawsuits seeking damages and worse? VA's adjudication Kangaroo courts are a sham and fraud so people resort to costly civil tort. The agency then sandbags to keep them pending for decades until plaintiffs give up, die or VA is forced to settle, which again it simply ignores redress. US congress has told the agency to pay Agent Orange victims and VA ignores them proper! Right here on IA are pages of 'plaintiff vs VA' suits pending with thousands more in public domain. Why are not recruits or potential enlistees briefed of Feres Doctrine before enlisting or during on boarding to active duty? Why is it purposely hidden and why the deceit of hiding it for 72 years at all? Before internet very few knew about Feres until deep in trouble when Uncle Sam says, "so sad, too bad we are protected and immune for negligence damages by Feres!' Now with that knowledge harmed victims are passing the information out creating a groundswell movement to sunset and abolish Feres injustices that have harmed veterans and still do for almost a century!! VA awards few disabilities in its Kangaroo claims & adjudication process. Millions of Vietnam soldiers languished and died horrible deaths from toxic exposures like Agent Orange Dioxin exposures, had birth defect babies after exposure and while on VA's deny, delay, sandbag until they die lists. I am one of those abandoned & dying from those horrid diseases. Most are now extinct but following us are those in Mideast wars dying from worse toxic exposures from depleted uranium, chemicals, bio-weapons and more who get the same short-shaft from US govt, Feres and VA. Same story, different faces, places as means to the same end: FUBAR, SNAFU and for suffering, dying, soldiers, the game bell goes ding! Vets you lose again. Dioxin is now classed as a deadly bio-weapon! Google 4th generation of Vietnam babies as consequences of Dioxin exposed ancestors during Vietnam War that US sprayed on allies and enemies alike. US veterans produce the same damaged babies as the Vietnam survivors and that gets covered up. That stuff alters & destroys genome and passes on through countless generations of babies. Vietnam is on 4-5th generation and no one knows how far that rabbit hole goes! So do all the rest of aforewritten exposures. Look right here on IA. There is a post titled 'A Love letter to America from Agent Orange babies.' After reading that post if you don't shed at least one tear of anger, you are not human. More posts about that exist right here and on the open net! That should be easy for you in Great Brtain for US censors such data to keep US sheeple blind to their sins. Americans never have been concerned about how their actions negatively affect other people until it happens to enough of them I can go on but you should get my drift by now; my question is why not spend your emotional moments and protests against the wars by doing something proactive about the mess under your noses? Unless action follows slacktivist intent, you are spitting upwind and getting wet by your hypocrisy. America is land of hypocrites, phony heroes, slacktivism, a nation of brave cowards taking free ride and lunch on someone else's sacrifice. Their patriotism rides on someone else's kids and families paying the price, and that is those you publicly mourn about. The living dead of us still need real help, not lip service, memorials or broken promises!! Nothing can help the dead; the dead know nothing; they do not feel pain. We living dead live with pain 25/8/366 a day. Suicide to end it, yes!! One can only tolerate so much pain, when today is same as yesterday and if cursed to be alive, tomorrow is the same as before! So, one asks what is the point of carrying on; suicide is painless and ends suffering! Suicide is not cowardly; cowardly is the people and institutions that torture, profiteer and abuse someone so badly s/he takes their life. Only America and VA can sink so low in the sewer profiteering form vet suffering and suicide. The lucky came back in body bags....the living dead do feel pain especially the agony of betrayal by the Nation and sheeple we suffer and die for every day. America died and Amerika was born 01/21/1977 by Neo-socialist Jimmy Carter's national address to American sheeple betraying all US military sacrifices past, present and future. US govt, VA and lame-stream mass media label vets as terrorists, crazy gun toting nuts and more to scare public away from us. So you will accept the poisoned pill of their propaganda and reject truth! Why, because we vets will tell you the truth as I have done so right here. Most of us have figured out who is the real terrorist and enemy. It is not what the rest of you think!! America contrary to propaganda fed to its kids from cradle to grave is not great and never was. The longest, bloodiest, genocide in human history did not occur in Nazi Germany; It happened on US soil! 180-220 million red skinned native American Indians were butchered because of their skin color, their land and way of lives & heritage were destroyed forever. Hitler was a piker compared to America. The original nations were hunted to brink of total extinction before a spark of sanity stopped the massacre in 1900. Over 98% of original nations were wiped off the earth taking their heritage with them. Survivors were herded into concentration camps called Indian Reservations to wither away and die. Are you full of America behind the phony 'white had gold star' illusion it paints of itself? The US nation has committed over 100 massacres on US soil and many more off shore. All that is censored to its children. Native American nations teach truth to our young: 'The free children drive the free; the free drive our free children in knowing the truth.' Knowledge of truth sets them free! Not living in fantasies like the rest of American kids!!! We pass our heritage to our children via methods 100's of thousands of years old. They know the truth before education propaganda ministries get hold of them. Assimilation takes a toll but not in toto. American slaves living in their bread, wine and circus tents made to enslave them love lies, sweet little lies; not reality and truths. The perfect slave is one who says, "I am not a slave!"
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addendum
Several years ago, headlines exposed stories of veterans dying due to delayed care. In 2015, the VA issued a report admitting that 307,000 veterans had died while waiting for the agency to process their enrollment requests. This followed stories of 40 veterans dying, with more than 1,400 more waiting for appointments, at VA health-care facilities in Phoenix. In an elaborate scheme, VA managers tried to cover up their malfeasance. Disband the Veterans Administration Steve Cohen
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