Grateful Dead Live at Deer Creek Music Center on 1991-06-07
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- 1991-06-07 ( check for other copies)
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Mississippi Half Step, Little Red Rooster, Stagger Lee, Me & My Uncle-> Maggie's Farm, Loser, The Music Never Stopped-> Don't Ease Me In Scarlet Begonias-> Fire On The Mountain, Truckin'-> New Speedway Boogie-> Jam-> Drums-> Jam-> I Need A Miracle-> Standing On the Moon-> Sugar Magnolia, E: The Weight
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SBD -> Dat -> Cm -> Dat
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Dat -> Behringer UltraMatch SRC2000 -> Dio 2448 -> Samplitude v.60 -> Cool Edit Pro v1.2 ->CD -> EAC (Secure Mode) -> SHN
All transfers done by Charlie Miller
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- Noblesville, IN
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- 13583
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- Deer Creek Music Center
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Reviewer:
GuinnessGoon
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May 22, 2023
Subject: Great show
Subject: Great show
Fun show and nice set list.
Thanks for chiming in Dylan sbrew must've whined to ya about it lol...nuff said.
Thanks for chiming in Dylan sbrew must've whined to ya about it lol...nuff said.
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February 15, 2019
Subject: A busy, hectic and brittle SBD
Subject: A busy, hectic and brittle SBD
The show is a bit haphazard, though there are amazing moments; Stagger Lee is especially good.
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BerthaCumberland
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January 6, 2019
Subject: Violent Femmes
Subject: Violent Femmes
no Crazygoat67, the Femmes opened at Buckeye Lake a couple days later (the 9th, I'm pretty sure). At Deer Creek the opener might've been the Dead Milkmen or the Presidents of the USA... ;)
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JonStorm716
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August 15, 2018
Subject: Half Step Smokes!
Subject: Half Step Smokes!
As always, the Half Step opener is the barometer of what's to come, and Garcia absolutely opens the floodgates at 6:45 with one of the great peaks of '91, and it comes in the opener. Wow!!!
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Morning Stew
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August 9, 2015
Subject: The Moon?
Subject: The Moon?
The SOTM right here has to be my favorite moment of the 90s, Jerry just lets go, a la the Dew in Albany 95. Cherish this
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MichiganBob
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March 11, 2014
Subject: Brilliant 1991
Subject: Brilliant 1991
This show was a close second as my fav between the 2 nights...first night first set was just too off the charts...second nite first set is no slouch either...excellent closing jam on Half Step and Stagger Lee is by far one of the best versions ever played...Im not joking, listen...Second set is top notch with Scarlet>Fire, Truckin jam, and Standin being the highlights for me...Sugar Mags rocks as well...Bruce is a lil heavy handed but thats Bruce...I accept him for the dynamic energetic player that he is...he played a vital role in late GD...we owe him a debt of gratitude...
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sailorsaint71
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May 24, 2013
Subject: great night must listen
Subject: great night must listen
jerry was screaming in new speedway and standing on the moon it was a epic night the last great deer creek run these and 90 were a great time for the music and the atmosphere at deer creek love 91 it helped me deal with missing brent
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Dylan M
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March 2, 2013
Subject: RE: Hornsby
Subject: RE: Hornsby
This is an interesting topic to bring up as when I first heard recordings of Hornsby playing with the band I thought he was a godsend (I never saw Grateful Dead, but we have these lovely recordings as testament.) He seemed to invigorate Jerry & The Boys after a catastrophic hit with the overdose of Mydland. His short stint with the band made 1991 a strong performance year when it could have been a trainwreck. We all saw what happened when the Hornsby training wheels were removed and the band was left with only Vince at the keys. Not that it collapsed but things slowly slid downhill.
At any rate I think that Summer 91' is the strongest Bruce/Vince tour. 6.17 and 6.25 are up there with some of the stronger shows from 1990. However, I can see the point that sbrew was making about Hornsby being a bit agressive at times. Mostly it worked in the band's favor, upping the anti for firey soloing and exchanging and keeping things interesting. I could see how a raw SBD feed could make Bruce sound a bit dominating at times.
The reality might have been that Jer used Bruce to muffle his own interaction, especially by the time Spring 1992 hit and he was slipping into poor performance ethic. In an interview with Hornsby led by Steve Silberman from 1991, Hornsby expressed frustration with Jerry and the bands stedfast insistance of sticking to usual set structure and not breaking from what was normally a 1st set or 2nd set song or mode. This might be part of the reason why he respectfully stopped being a permanent member.
Either way, we love Bruce. I don't think GuinessGoon should bash sbrew and call him a "moron" for having an insightful comment about one particular set of one particular performance. Most of this site is people praising to high heaven or bashing. When somebody gives a real critique that's valid, don't stifle them. And just because Bruce played in a Dead cover band in the mid 70s when he was in college dons't mean there wasn't a HUGE learning curve to figure out hundreds of originals/common covers, let alone the way they were currently performing them.
I love listening to Fall 1990 and Summer 91' because of Bruce's interplay with the boys and his challenging them to be on the ball. His presence in the Dead was a powerful one, perhaps at times a bit too powerful.
At any rate I think that Summer 91' is the strongest Bruce/Vince tour. 6.17 and 6.25 are up there with some of the stronger shows from 1990. However, I can see the point that sbrew was making about Hornsby being a bit agressive at times. Mostly it worked in the band's favor, upping the anti for firey soloing and exchanging and keeping things interesting. I could see how a raw SBD feed could make Bruce sound a bit dominating at times.
The reality might have been that Jer used Bruce to muffle his own interaction, especially by the time Spring 1992 hit and he was slipping into poor performance ethic. In an interview with Hornsby led by Steve Silberman from 1991, Hornsby expressed frustration with Jerry and the bands stedfast insistance of sticking to usual set structure and not breaking from what was normally a 1st set or 2nd set song or mode. This might be part of the reason why he respectfully stopped being a permanent member.
Either way, we love Bruce. I don't think GuinessGoon should bash sbrew and call him a "moron" for having an insightful comment about one particular set of one particular performance. Most of this site is people praising to high heaven or bashing. When somebody gives a real critique that's valid, don't stifle them. And just because Bruce played in a Dead cover band in the mid 70s when he was in college dons't mean there wasn't a HUGE learning curve to figure out hundreds of originals/common covers, let alone the way they were currently performing them.
I love listening to Fall 1990 and Summer 91' because of Bruce's interplay with the boys and his challenging them to be on the ball. His presence in the Dead was a powerful one, perhaps at times a bit too powerful.
Reviewer:
sbrew
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June 2, 2011
Subject: hornsby
Subject: hornsby
VG show but....
Hornsby is an excellent player, a great addition to the team, and there are many shows from this period where everything lines up just right. But he is wise enough to assess after the fact and, I think, listening back to this one (and a few others like it) he'd probably be the first to say 'oops', that he was overrunning the music a bit on this show, especially set one.
He's very aggressive, non-stop, and fills the spaces normally left for well-established riffs and in most cases is wiping out Garcia, rendering mute the riffs and melody lines that we all know and love and forcing Weir to have to state his case loudly if Weir's comping is to be heard at all. And in some cases Hornsby simply doesn't know the tunes well enough to be so bold.
Though all with good intentions (and approval by a bit too deferential Garcia) there's a bit too much athleticism and not enough 'team' attitude.
Set 2 evens out a bit, but set 1 especially could use more willingness from Hornsby to be another gear on the machine and not just 'the man'.....
Hornsby is an excellent player, a great addition to the team, and there are many shows from this period where everything lines up just right. But he is wise enough to assess after the fact and, I think, listening back to this one (and a few others like it) he'd probably be the first to say 'oops', that he was overrunning the music a bit on this show, especially set one.
He's very aggressive, non-stop, and fills the spaces normally left for well-established riffs and in most cases is wiping out Garcia, rendering mute the riffs and melody lines that we all know and love and forcing Weir to have to state his case loudly if Weir's comping is to be heard at all. And in some cases Hornsby simply doesn't know the tunes well enough to be so bold.
Though all with good intentions (and approval by a bit too deferential Garcia) there's a bit too much athleticism and not enough 'team' attitude.
Set 2 evens out a bit, but set 1 especially could use more willingness from Hornsby to be another gear on the machine and not just 'the man'.....
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May 20, 2010
Subject: SOTM
Subject: SOTM
good version for post-Brent era. But come on, NOBODY has even mentioned the 7/17/89 version. i havent heard a version that even holds a candle to it. its simply perfect. comes out of UJB so natural...and seemlessly into drums....perfect.
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crazygoat1967
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February 16, 2010
Subject: This place was always peaking.
Subject: This place was always peaking.
Caught this show and the one a few years earlier. Wandered around high after the shows for hours under those big starry Midwest night skies. Was this the show where the Violent Femmes opened?
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theloniouscastaneda
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May 30, 2009
Subject: Killer show!!!
Subject: Killer show!!!
i've been on a heavy scarlet-fire tangent to find the really killer versions, found a web page with a list, mentioned this one. checkin it out i realised i was at this show. vivid memories of the half-step, maggies farm, great keyboard interplay towards the end of music never stopped, truckin>nsboogie, the weight, etc., (and if memory serves, doesn't bruce break out the accordian during SPACE?! - god bless white people), but i swear no memories of this KILLER scarlet-fire. did i transcend during it, turn into pure energy? was it so heavy i need to be in another mode of consciousness to access the memory. were there still gooney birds flyin around as late as '91? i dunno, maybe i was in the restroom, but i wouldn't do that at the beginning of the second set. weird. anyway, great show - thanks for posting!!! some of the best times of my life! BRUCE - what a badass...
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Cob_1969
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February 16, 2009
Subject: Greta Summer 91 show
Subject: Greta Summer 91 show
I had this tape forever and lost it somehow, this show is smoking. We did every show from Buckeye Lake, after this show, to Bonner Springs in the Summer of 1991. I was always pissed we didn't get to go to Deercreek that year, Summer 91 Tour were some of the best shows I ever saw and I had some of the best times of my life! Bruce and Jerry just rip it up here.
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Eleusynian Moe
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October 16, 2008
Subject: Happy to see the stars
Subject: Happy to see the stars
This was a night when the angels came down to Earth at Dear Creek, thanks to the impeccability of Dead and to the devotion of the crowd, and, of course to the intervention of the spirit world. Perfection. What a night. Thanks!
As we were walking out of the music center, I turned to a friend and said, "They didn't play any music tonight." We laughed like fools. You see, the Dead that night really didn't play "songs". They were at their shamanic best, magical movers of sound, moving sound around in the sweetest and most sublime ways. I guess you could call what they did "songs" but that's not what we heard. :-)
I remember a show in Cleveland, where the Cavaliers play basketball...when??...91???...where they did "He's Gone"...In the same way, that concert brought down the angels. Many thanks to all, including the people who taped this.
As we were walking out of the music center, I turned to a friend and said, "They didn't play any music tonight." We laughed like fools. You see, the Dead that night really didn't play "songs". They were at their shamanic best, magical movers of sound, moving sound around in the sweetest and most sublime ways. I guess you could call what they did "songs" but that's not what we heard. :-)
I remember a show in Cleveland, where the Cavaliers play basketball...when??...91???...where they did "He's Gone"...In the same way, that concert brought down the angels. Many thanks to all, including the people who taped this.
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January 5, 2007
Subject: killer creek
Subject: killer creek
What a show! High School senior year pre-finals at Noblesville! A bunch of us drove out from suburban NYC to catch these shows and Buckeye Lake taboot! Take a good listen to the keys in Half Step battling it out with the rest of the band. Hornsby makes this sound like a 1973 Half Step! IA friend and I were literally first row for the first set, dosed and hassled by people that were sitting in our prescribed front row! WHose would pass up a front row set of the dead only to retire to the field for an excellent second set includeing, as previously noted, Scarlet Fire... Speedway and of course the SOTM to rival the .. 8/21/93 SOTM??? ANyway, three great shows pre-finals and then finished my Physics final and literally jumped into my friends Hyundai for RFK then back home for two solid shows at Giants! Excellent summer runs that seemed happy for everyone. Bruce contributed so much musically during this tour! Fall 1991 was not bad at all! From an east coaster- MSG and old Boston Garden!!! Supreme way to end and begin college!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Dead_Phish24
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October 14, 2005
Subject: Good Show
Subject: Good Show
SOTM is very sweet. One of the best, although 3/21/90 copps coliseum is good too, A Brent show there. I love the ending of Stagger Lee. Good 3 day at The Deer Creek. worth it here....Peace
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zuman!
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September 19, 2005
Subject: rather be
Subject: rather be
An amazing "standing on the moon" . . . Garcia sounding like Rgoer Daltry in final verse . . final solo is Jerry absolutely shaking the stratosphere loose of any stardust.
pretty good quality
pretty good quality
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stratocaster
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August 6, 2005
Subject: 06/07/1991
Subject: 06/07/1991
Great 1991 show. The big Garcia numbers are performed at their best; Speedway, Scarlet, Fire, Standing on the Moon...
Standing on the Moon is very good. One of the best versions out there. Also check out 03-16-1994, 12-28-1991 and 12-06-1989 for other amazing versions (along with 08-21-1993, of course)
5 star 1991 show, nice quality 4.5 overall
Standing on the Moon is very good. One of the best versions out there. Also check out 03-16-1994, 12-28-1991 and 12-06-1989 for other amazing versions (along with 08-21-1993, of course)
5 star 1991 show, nice quality 4.5 overall
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GDTrey
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June 7, 2005
Subject: 2nd best SOTM after Eugene
Subject: 2nd best SOTM after Eugene
The SOTM from this show is outstanding!!! I have not heard one, except Eugene, that compares. The entire show is smokin, as is basically every show from Summer '91. Bruce is all over the place as usual. The second set is the highlighr of the night. The Fire is one of the hottest of the 90's. Jerry and Bruce, once again, team up and rip it up. The Sugar Magnolia is hot with Bruce tearing it up at the end. The show is not as hot as 6/17 but it is up there!!
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JerryInaPouch
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April 21, 2005
Subject: popped a dose and had a toast
Subject: popped a dose and had a toast
Well I'm listening to Fire right now and perhaps it's just the state of mind but otherwise this is sweet... go Jerry...
4 stars ( 4 trippiness)
4 stars ( 4 trippiness)
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bigboypeete
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April 13, 2005
Subject: hmm
Subject: hmm
standing is pretty intense on second thought top 5 id say
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Tito&Smokey
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March 28, 2005
Subject: 5 stars
Subject: 5 stars
Simply put:This is the best played second set i have ever attended in 300 plus shows....The scarlet/fire/truckin/speedway and standing are immpeccable.Even trucking was good.If your a fan of the "weight"this one is tits.Good recording.If you dont take weird sets and breakout songs into consideration,this might be the best played 2nd set of all post Brent.The Bruce/Jerry showdown between the 2nd and 3rd verses of Fire is amazing.Best Scarlet fire of the 90s hands down."Be with you" part of Standing Jerry goes off more than i've ever heard him do,Kinda like on "stella blue"8/1/94.Killer sugar mag.Again,i cant say enough about the WHOLE Scarlet/Fire,Including the transition.Has been for about 10 years and continues to be my favorite CD
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