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'I'lic lpriiii:iiiir inufilici' of ilu' icprt'sontiitivcs of tin- fruit iiitcrcsis <if llic Dmii-
iiihiii, aiwl lln- intc'rf>l ami .•ntliusiartin iiiiiiiift;si«Ml in tlio i.rococliii-s of tlu- Coiivoii-
tioii. cMiiiw't liiit li.' ii s.Mircf of f,M-atiHcatinii to all fniicoriu'.l.

hi tlif wiiittM of 1SS7-S the success attfiidiiiic ili" iiu'otiiii:- <'f tli«' Mniitical
llnrtiriiltiii-al Soci.'ly ami I'niit <in.\v(M>' Assnciation of llio I'roviiu'f o| (^uel)ec, iield
i,, ilu- city of <^icl.»><-, KmI tilt. I'|•e^i.lelll of the A^so(•ia^ioll. I'rof. IVnliallow. to
.im-irc>t tlic (l.'siral.iliiy of liriii,!,nii.<,' lou'ctlifi-. at Montri-al, rci-ivsoiitativo of tlu^
various I'roviii'.'fs ot llio l)oinini<>ii.

'J'lie I'roviiicial Assorialions were <M»miiiiiiiicati'(l with, ami woio ui\aiiiiiioii> in
llh-ir favoir of ilio proji-cl. Ai)l»lii'atioii \va> inatlo to the Dominion (loviTiiini'iil for
:i urant in aid ot tlic work conliMnplati'd. and Mossrs. Cliarles (iil'l-, A. McD. Allan,
TirWoolvi'rlon and ('. K. II, Starr took an active purl in i'n<lcav..iirini,' to advanci'
tlic proitH't, l>iit from various cuum's tiui work was not sulliciiMitly advanccil to
conveiio tin- nu'ctini; tliirini; the winter of ISS'.l.

Tho following- suinmor fiirlhcr idVorts wi-ro inado, and the application for a
iiirant received the favoiirahK- ci'uisideiation of tlie Hon. Mr. Carlin;; and his
colleaiTiies, an ai)propnalion liein-,' pas^ied icranlini: to the llonoiirahle the Minister
of Aiiricullure llio sum of §'i.tMK) '• to aid in Ihodevtdopment of the i'ruit industry in
Canada."

lender the conditions of the -rant it was f.mnd necessary to hold the Conven-
tion at Ottawa, and the or<;anizati()n of the meeting; was, hy a vote of the Provincial
Associations, placed in the hands of the MxMitreal Society.

A committee, consisting' of Prof. I). V. Penhallow. President; Me.ssrs, J{. W.
Shepherd, jr., \l. 15i<.ilie, A. .loyee, Kev. 15, Hamilton and W. W. J)unlop, Secretary,
wasai.iiointe'd. with I'rof. W. Saumlors ami Mr. P. H. Hucke, of Ottawa, as local
niembers.

The committee was greatly aided in its work by the hearty co-operation of
the various associaiions, and by the valuable assistance rendered iiy Prot. Saunders,
hiieetor of tin- I'lxperimentiii l-'arms, and others.

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Tl.o Cnnvention mot at .'! p.m., IM-ofcssor J). 1*. I'e.nh.vi.i-ow, the President, in
the Chair.

Tlu'ic were present the llonoiirablo tlie Minister of Airiieiilture; Prof. "W.
Sauiitler.s, l)ireetor Kxperimental Farms, Ottawa; P. K. liiickf. Ottawa: I'rot'.
.F. JIo3's I'anton, (riielph ; A. Mc. 1). Allan, (roderieh ; Thoma.s lieall. Liml-
way; H. .Stanatt, Paradise. N..S. ; A. II. Pettit, <irimsl)y. Ont. ; J. S. McMiehaei.
Watertord, Out.; Thonias Frankhmd. Stonewall, Manitoba; J{. W. Starr, Starrs
Point, \.S. ; (J. W. Henry, Port JIammond, Ji.C. ; U. Hrodio. Montreal; li. AV.
She])!ierd, jr.. Montreal; il. J. Brodie. Smith's Falls. Ont.: W. W. Diinlop, Mon-
treal; ('. P. II. Starr. Wolfville, X.S. ; J. ('rai.jjc, Kxperimental Farm, Ottawa; S. L.
Peters, (iueen.stown, N.P. ; S. D. AVillard, Geneva. N.Y. : O. li. Iladwen, Worcester.
Mass.; S. A. Hedlord. Kxpei'imental Farm, Manitoba ; X. . I. C'linton, Windsor, Ont. :
Linus W(»olverton, (irimsby. Ont.: P. C. Dempsey, Trenton, Ont.; (r. A. Briim-
mond. Iioebuidc, Onl. ; John I). Thomson, Domville, Ont.; O. Crosstieltl. .1. M. FisU.
Abiiotston.1, Que;: .lohn M. Denton, London, Ont.; Jidin C'roil, Anltsville, Ont.:
Iiev. Thomas W. Fyles, South (^uebee ; L'ev. li. Hamilton, (Jrenville. Que.; (r. S.
Mason, llawkesbury, Ont.; G. C Caston, Craii^hurst, Ont. ; A. M. Smith. St.
Catharines, Ont. : IVof. P. W. Smith, Truro, X.S. : A.A.Graham, Granbv, (^le. ;
lion. II. G. .l(dy, Leelcrcville.Que. : K. Mallory, Franktord, v)nt. ; (KM. Farley, Belle-
villf, Ont.; I). Westover, Frelij^hsburg, t^ue. ; W. L. Kerr, Beamsville, Ont.; .F. W.
Harrison, Pei;ina, N.W.T. ; W. Thompson, jr.. Derwont. Ont., and others.

Tile meetin/;; was opened by the Honourable the Minister ol" Agrieulture with
tlie f<dlo\vini; address : —

Mil. PiiEsiitK.NT und Gentle.men, — It appears to mo tiiat I am a sort of
double-barrelled gun to-day. I was honoured liy the President asking me to
open this meeting, out 1 came here n little too soon. While the Dairy Convention was
going on I was called ui)on to s|)eak, and I said something then about the fruit as well
as the daily interests of the country. However, Mr. President and gentlemen. 1
foel it a J veat honour in being called upon by you to open this Fruit (rrowers Con-
venli<-: This is the tirst Hominion convention of fruit giowers, I believe, that ha*
been 1,. Id in ('anada. and I hope (hat it will not be the last; that as you have made
a good comiriencement. as you have an excellent attendance here to-day with repre-
sentatives present from all the ditferont parts of the Dominion — from Nova Scotia.
Prince Fdward Island. Xew Brunswick, Ontario, Quebec. Manitoba, and the Xorth-
West Te. ritories, and with the uniteil action of all the gentlemen that are represent-
ing the different Provinces. I am sure the convention cannot iielp but lesult in
great good for the country. The fruit interests are just beginning to be appreciated
by the jioople in other countries, as I have mentioned here this afternoon. .Vt the
Centennial Kxhibition, held in 187(5 in Philadelphia. I am told Canadian fruit was

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a\ViiiiU'<l ;i iiiimlur of" iiK'diils : jiihI. .•!■' I iiu'iitioncil jilsu. the cxliiliit of I'niit sent to
tilt' liiili:iii ;iimI < ''iloiii.il l'',xliil>ii i<»ii ii>l<>ni^licil (lie wurM, Tlit'iT were iiiillions (if
|.cii|»|i' wliM iillt'inlrd ilial < xliiltiliidi. ainl lln-y wrvv mirpi istd at tin- cxhiliit ol'tniit
rrn;ii ( 'iiiiM'l.i. I only \\ii\h-. ixciiilciiu'ii. llial ymi will >|i!irf im c/loit to |in><|ii('t> tiist-
cla^s tViiii> III lilt' hiiiiiiiiioii. Wcliavi' many iliilcuMit climates iiiC'anaiia ainI I trust
tli.it ill a vi'iy sliiMt time variotit-s of a|t|ik's a> well as wfll as otlici- t'niits may lie
tiMiiitl siiitiililf to all .if tliciii. I ail' 'jiiitt' sun- we will he siiccfssliil with llu" small
fruits, and I tliiuk that a|i|ilos may \>v urown in I lie Nortli West in tlic same way thai
ilit-y a If i,ndwn in IJiissia some six or seven linndi'i'd miles t'nrt her norih than we are
ai IJeuina. We may not he siieet-ssfiii at first. Imt we are maUini; llio elVort, and all
kinds olfruii trees are heinj; experimented with at the ( 'eniral Kar'in near Ottawa,
and also a! the I'aini in i he .Mariliim- Provinces, at .\a|)|taii. al Mraiidoii, aiul at the
tariii al Indian lleail, in the North-Wcsi Tei I'iiories. and also ;it the farm in Hritish
('oliimhia. With this vast extent ot roniitry in which all vaiielies of (dimttte are
represented, we are teslin:.;' trees in L;"reat variety from many other countries.
I'lot, S.ninders is in conimnniealion with the |irincipal fiuil i;rowin:r •'""I'ti'it'^ in
the world, and weaie rxperinieiitin;; with seeds tnini India, with trees from IJussia,
Iroiii (ieiinany and trom .lapan. Apple trees that have heen sin-ees.sfiil in Northern
IJussia have heen hrouuht out and are sueeeeilini; in the Western States, and I think
that hy contiiiuini; tiiis line of w'ork we shall succeed in tindiii^ fruits which will
stand the climate of our norlh-west. 1 think we have heen successt'ul in hriiiiiinj^
out a wheat, called tlu' |,a<loL;:i wheat, iVom N'orthcrii l?ussia. That wheat has heen
succi'ssfid. (Ap|)lause.) It has heen (dearly demonstrated that it will ripen ahout
ten days earlier than the Ifeil Fife wheat. So tar as we can learn it is o(puil in
ipiality to the Kt'd Fife hut ; supposing" it should not he (piile cfjual. the advantairc
ot' having- it ripen ten days earlier is a matter of very i^reat importance in the Xortli-
West. ( Ih'ar. hear.) With this accpiisition. and if we can produce ap|)les and sueli
I'ruit as I have inentioneil in the North-West. I think it will he worth the expen-
diture that has heen made in connection with our Kxperimental Farms. (Hoar,
hear, and a])plause.) Theso exjteriments are hein,ix honestly made hy eompet«'nt
men, as 1 sajd before. We iiave heen careful in select inu' the very hest men we could
uH't in the country to take (diar<:e ot the ditlefent hrantdies, and they are coiiduetin^^
this work ; and we have at the head ot" these Kxperimental Farms a itentleman in
whom all those wdio have come in contact with him have contidence, and I am
sure the eoui !ry lias contidence in him. (Hear, hear.) Witii tliese experiments
honestly condiicteil and carried out they must he of vast bcnetit loall sections of tiie
eountr}'. from ocean to ocean. (Applause.) (ientlemen, I <lo not know that I should
take iipyour time any lonj^er, and I thank you for the honour you have (hme me in
askinn' me to open this meetinir. Tiie |)airy Convention has he»'n successful, and
there is every appearence, trom the size of the Fruit (rrowers Convention, that your
i^atherinii' will lie e(|Ually successful. I have no more to say, heyond declarini; that
this convention is now optii, and I wish you every sucet'ss. (Fioud applause.)

TJIE CIIAl UMAX'S ADDRKSS.

The Chairman. I'rof. I). I'. Pknii.vi.i.ow, ot' Montreal, then delivered his opening
address as follows: —

T" the Jlonournble the Minister of Aijriculture itnd Memher.-i of the Convention :

(rENTLKMK.N, — Before proceediiiij to deal witli these suhjects which more inti-
mjit«dy hoar upon the special work oi this imj)ortant convention, which, as jiresiding
otticor, it falls to my lot to j»resent to you, I venture to conifratuliito you all upon
the successful issue of theso efforts which have heen directed towards hringing 3'ou
tot^etherat this time and ])lace, and under circumstances whitdi render this the most
important movement ever instituted in the Dominion ot' Canada lor tlie j)urpose of
proinoliiiif our very large an<l increasing truit industry.

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Tin' |)r«'>*<'iil cotivi'iitioii is the result of an i-lVoil on llic pai-l of llit- Muntiial
iroiMiciilliiral Society to st'tiir*- >iicli a rnoctiiii; at Montical last winter, l-'or various
reasons ili«> plans tlion inaile were not realized, lint as we all felt tlie ^reat nei-es.siiy
fur s()!ne eoncerle'l action lookiiii; to the liisttcr ilevi-loprnetit of (»ur fruit imlustrv,
and especially of our export trade; etVorts were renewed with the lesull now
ap|turen;. My a ;;eiieral vole of all the societies interested, the organization ot' ilie
t'Dnvention. with all the details relatjnt; to it, was placc(l in the hands ot' the .Mon-
treal Horticultural Society and Ki uit (J rowers' Association of the Province ot ^Miehcc,
in coiisc(|iieii"'e ot' which it devolves upon nie, as I'resident ot' that society, to picsido
over lie work of this ineetini;. We are under (dilii^alions ;o many niendici's of the
House lor the warm manner in which oin application for <iovernmeiit assistance
was supported hy them. Mut we are more ])articularly and deeply indehted to the
lloiionralilc the Minister of .\jfriculture. Mr. .I<ihn ('arlin>.r. for the encouram-nieiit
and sympathy ho has extended to those directly in charj^e of this work, and for the
very active and j^enerous support he has extended in socurimc a special tiovenimenl
irraiit to meet expenses necessarily incident to such an occasion. And notwillistand-
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watchful and aclivo interest in all our work »ip to this very date. Whatever may
be the tinal result of our work in the n«'xt three days, the fruit ^'rowers ot" ('anad.a
cannot lori;-cl thai .Mr. Carlint; has lahoiircd eanu'stly ami generously for the pionio-
I ion of their intei'ests.

We should also a'dcnowlcili^e the valuable services of those members of the
general executive and htcal committees without whose uniting etfoits success could
not have been secured.

On behalf ot' our various societies, as bore reprcKcnted, I desire also to extend
a most cordial welcome totiiose representatives of kindre<l societies who have come
to this incetin!:; from the aiijoininii States of the Union. Jt is our hojie that, as our
inleiesis are lari^elj' iilentieal, the exciiaiif^e of views to take place duriiii; the
proMjicss of this convention may result in a lar^e measure of mutual benctit.

This is the tirst occasion in the history of C'anadian horticulture when there
have been assembled at one point skilled representatives of that most nol)le callini;,
from all parts of oui- widely separated Provinces, We have here to-day representa-
tives from Prince Kdward Island, Nova Scotia, Xew Hninswick, (Quebec, Ontario,
Manitoba, the North-Wost Territories and ]{ritishCV>lumbia, and it is hoped that such
a convention of widely separated interests may lead to results of the ifreatest
importance — results whicii will be felt in the remotest fruit-growinj; district of the
Dominion, and from which, as time moves rajndly onward, new influences may sprin/j.

Our ]»r(»i^rcssive neighbours to the southward, who are over on the aleit for new
tlirections in which to apply an exhaustless energy to the development of natural
resources, have for some years been carrying on a work similar to that we are now
entering ii))on — thougli on a somewhat larger scale — through the medium of the
American Jlorticultural Society, whose function it is to move about from place to
place each year, and tlius bring local interests into harmony with the general welfare.

Whether any such broader Hold of work will result from this Convention and
whether such work as we are now undertaking will be extended into the future,
are at present open questions, the determination of which must depend upon the
nature of the results we now achieve. At present our object is attained in this
meeting. When it was tirst proposetl to hold this meeting the intention was to
have it at Montreal, as the great shipping port, and whence the bulk of our fruit goes
to Kiirope. ]{ut on consideration it was found best, for several reasons, that it should
be held here at Ottawa during the Sessicm of Parliament, and thus give to the various
representatives here gathered an opportunity to hear and join in the discussions,
and ultimately distribute the information obtained, among their several consti-
tuencies.

Of the various Provinces rejiresented here to-day, wo regret to find that only four
have regulary organized societies, under whose direction and encouragement the
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the Xi)rtli-\V<'*1. wlioif tVuil ciiltiifo is yol in its inliiiiry. (»r not vit iiniloitiilv.-n, tlio
rcasiin tor lliis i> lo >onu' oxlciit ohvicms. Not m>. Iiowcvcr-, wiili I'rinco Ivlwanl
Ulan'l:iM(i New lii iinswick, i>otli ofwliidi aro ini|ioiiani IViiil iii>tiic'l-.. It iimloiibt-
cdly falls williiii lln' province of this convention, and poihajts may lu' foiisiderfil ono
ofoiir iiiosl ini|Mirlanl iliilies, to imniiro into llif caii-es of siicii a stale of atl'air> and.
if |>o>.sililc, sii;;;;est and eneoiira^e some inii»rt»v»'n)ent. Mriti>h < 'oliiniltia, allhoii^^h
not as yet a laijj;e fiiiit-piddiiein^ country, in yut fully alive to future ,,osMil>ilities.
and the neces>iiy of ■,qvini,' tiio industi'v the nio>t ean-fiil nursing' while it is in the
sta;,'e of extivrue iidancy. 'I'iicre has heon estahlished there, within the last two
years, a society which has at its lioad one of the most active and highly respected
memheis of the Montreal Horticultural Society, Mr. J. M. Hrowninf^. Under his
^'uidance, wo may coutidently look forward to the future of the society, with the
feelinj,' that it is «lestint-d to accomplish a j,'reat ami important work in developing
the latent p('S>il>ilites of fruit culture in the far west.

If wo now turn to the other extreme of this widely-extending hominion, we
find in Nova Scotia — the paradise of ap|)los — a most active organization, known as
the Xova Scotia Fruit tirowers' Association and International Show S(»ciety. The
name at once sugijests the hroad hasis on which the work ol this society is conducted,
and our inspection of its annual reports shows that it lias accomplislRMJ a vast
amount of good work.

Thi-i society was estahlished hy Act of TiOgislature (ui the 10th of May, 18G4,
and the constitution was amencK'd on 12th January. ISTd. Its memhership is not
large, being only ."U in ISSfi. but all take a most active part in the proceedings, and
fed that their personal interests and those of the society are op

The association had its origin in the great London Hxhibiti«.n of 18(i0, at which
Nova Scotia ajiples were exhibited and attra. ted marked attentio i. In l.S»J2 speci-
mens of fruit were sent to the exlubiti<Mi ot'the London Ilorticulti ral Society, whore
they took one silver and some bron/.e medals. As a result, the t, icioty was organ-
ized in 1S(;;{ by mumi whose names are most intimately connected with the fruit
interests of that Province.

We tind it recorded in the transactions of the society that : " It had been abund-
antly proved from the very origin of the society that the best of apples could be
raised in Nova Scotia; the difficulty all along had been in placing them in good con-
dition in the IJritish market. At tirst it had been found necessary even to preserve
them, that they might appear at least of their propei- size at)d form. Various exper-
iments had been tried to overcome the formidable obstacles pi-esonted b}' the broad
and stormy ocean and a land transit scarcely less destructive; but the problem
was not yet satisfactorily solved. At the annual meeting of 1870 the matter was
again brought to the notice of the association, a statem. * being nuide by Amos
Black. Ksq.. o?ie of its members, that he had in the preceding December sent two
barrels of apples — llutcdiing's and lilack Red — to Liverpool, Kiigland, and that they
haii arrived in perfect order. Each apple was wrapped separately in paper.

'• In 1871 the association determined to petition the Dominion Parliament to
place a specific duty on all foreign a])ples, green fruits and vegetables, as well as
upon all fruit trees imported into the Province. In its work, since the dale of its
formation, the .society has advised a wide and intelligent interest in the domain in-
trusted to its care and management. The subjects which have occupied its attention
have been very numerous and varied ; they have also been among the most impor-
tant that can engage the consideration of an agricultural and horticultural region.
Through its instrumentality information has been widely diffused ; the fruits and
other agricultural produce of the Province have been brought to the notice of even
distant countries, and have created a most favourable imju-ession as to the capabilities
and resources of the colony; it has been made aj)i»arent, by the knowledge diffused,
that the ap))les ot'Nova Scotia are unsurpassed, ]»erhaj)s unrivalled, by those of anj-
other part of the world ; the operations of the Fruit Growers' Association have done
much towards opening up and securfng a pernuinent market for our fruit, and thus
to render its cultivation a source of prosperity and wealth. Experiments have been

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hiu'cusxtully iiitulo iio to ilu> kiiuis lii'xt ii(l!i|iti>i| to iiiif cliinitli' tlir iii'hIcs of trtiiH-
|Miiialii»ii to i|i-t!iiit ••<»uiiiri«'s Imvi- uccii|iici| tlu' tlic>M;jlii-. i>l ilio «.u(ici\ , s<i lliaf imw
mil- tiiifsl a|i|il("> may li<> plarcil in liif iiiarUrls ut (iioat Hritaiu with t|i«>ii' IiImumi
aiiil llavniic alni'Hi wholly iminipairt'il. Tlic ravairfs ul' inscctH ami nllit-r iif^l-, and
ilif rnt-aii- liy wliicli I lny can In- lic-i ciiiinlcraclfcl, have hcon nia<li- iIh' ^iilijcrt
ol' i-arctiil rcseai't'ii, and the lalxMir lias nut lu'i'ii in vain. So thu work lias iiccn |lrll^•
fciitfd Willi inlrrt'st. tidi'lily and siicci'mm. " Tliis Hocioly wart aUd niit* ottlif must
aciisc |ii'iimiitci-'> ot' lliu l><iminiiin l-'iiiit Kxliilijl at the Indian and Crdonial Mxliilii-
linn in !''>.").

'I'Mrninir iiur attuntiun to intiM'fstm ni'Ui'ci- oar own inimi>dialt> locality, we tind
ill tlic (Jntaiio l-'niit fi rowers" Association asocii'tyof widely extended inrtiicnee and
iin|ioitiince. liaviiiic in it-> kecpiii:,' tlic fruit interests ol" one ol' ilie most liii;lily
favoured |ioino|i)^Mcal districts in Americu. Uh work liaH hitt^n ot" such a varied and
ini|ioi'taiit cliaraetei' that jiistiee cannot he dono to it in the hiief space to he spared in
an address ot" this kind, and only the morn salient l"oatures can he passed in review.

'I'lie meinhersliip is now iioarly three thousand. The l*ntvin<ial <tovernment
has lor many years i^ivon an annual j^iaiif, whitdi has steadily increased, from a
minimum of ?<."HM» to a present maximum ot"^l,S(Mi. Thi assoiiation wan estal>lis|i<'i|
ahoiit jsiio, and sine,, that date has hoeii active in promoti;.; ho fruit interestsof the
I'rovinct''. Me«tiiii,'s are. Indd at various seasons of the year i ! 'in ditl'eront parts of
the Province; annual reports, emhoilyin^ the proeei'dini;s of these meet ini;s, are puh-
lished, together witii most important contriliutioiis to ec'tiomie entomoloiry.

In I^Tn tlie society adoplctl the plan '•<"distrihiiti new vuriet' :•* of t'ritits to
varion,s ixrowers. i\ r purposes of testin;^, a eontlition hoin^ tlia'^ an annual report of
the results ohiaon d, shoiil 1 he siihmittiid to tlie society tor a ju-riiHl of tivo years.
This pi ! • is still in opera:ion, and under it the ;.inn ' . 6')tM( has heeii aniiually
expeiido'i. The .society hohls no rei;uhir exhibitions, hut it oifers sucdi special prizes
as seem to he deinand»'d tVom time to lime.

In 1S7S the ('anitiliitn J/<irti<til(urisf was issueil. nmU-r the patronnL'o and hy
tlifl aid ot'this association. It in tlie bust oxjionent ot Canadian hortieulture oxUint,
and isdoiii;r ii most useliil work.

In ISTli the rresidont, JJev. }{. Hurnet, suiriicsted that iceohf^ical eondition.s
should ho taken into consideration as influencing the success or liiiluruotorchards. Ifo
also sU!^i;esteil that there should I'e special etieouragoment i^iven In 'yportation, and
thai more intimate inter-communication should he estahlished with otlii-r societies at
home and abroad. In I'^T'^ he aLfain sugi^csted that etl"ort.s shouM he made to extend
fruit eulturo in .Manitcdja and the North-West.

In I.SS3 President .Saunders direeteil attention to the i^reat tlesirability of secur-
ing tiiiits of a hardy natiie from similar climates in various parts of the old world.
As you are all well aware, this hU<j:i;estion was acted upon the followini; year by Mr.
Charles (iihh, the results of whose labours in l{us^ia and other parts ot" Kiirope have
been of the <;reatost value.

The society has been diiectly respoiiHible for extensive improvements in and
the exton.sion of fruit culture throui^hout Ontario, as well as in the promotion of
for«'siiy inteiosts. It includes ainoiii; its memliers, orii^inators ot' valuable new
varieties of fruits and ve;.(etahle-i, in which connection the names of. Saunders, Arnold,
llaskins, Mills and others are most favourably kiiwwn.

Thi'oiii;h this society leu;islation tavoural)le to the fruit industry of tlie entire
countr}' ha.s been promoteil, and it took the leading part in securing the fruit display
at the Indian and Colonial Hxhibition.

The Montreal Horticultural .Society was incorporated in 1*^1!'. In I^^Ti^ the
society was re-organized, under an ameiidod (diarter, as the Montreal Horticultural
Society and Fruit (irowors' Association of the Province of (iuobec. For many years
no active work was undertaken, but in 18T<I the tirst annual report was issued.
These publications have hoen contM-uod "p to ti'o proscnt time, and constitute a
complete record of the fruir (.iiltiire ir tbe Pro^'ino*', eiri racinir papers of the great-
est horticultural value.

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At tlu; time of re()ri;anizatii)n the Secretary explained the reason for a change
of name in the followiniij terms: —

•\Stroni!: efforts liavini; been pul fortli within the hist three or four years to
<|iiifkon the interest in fruit-growini;- in this Province, it \vas thouyht that the name
cliosen lor the new association should bo explanatory of the work the society has
in view. For this reason the name chosen was that of the Montreal ll.trticultuial
Society an<l Fruit Growers' Association of the Province of Quebec. In purely horti-
cultural matters tlie influence of the societ}' will be mainly felt in and near this city,
but in matters relatiui:; to fruit i;rowinii' it is hoped that it will exert a useful and
powert'ul influence throughont the whole ]'rovin<'e."

The hopes then entertained as to the futiiie usefulness of this society have bi'cn
realized in the work of sub>equenl years. Meetings have been lield in various parts
of the Province for the discussion of questions bearing upon fruit culture, ancl the
present meeting may be properly reganled as a legitimate and natural result of the
policy adopted.

The Local rrovernment has, for some years, given an annual grant of §1,000, by
aid of which the society lias, for many yeais. held annual exhibitions at Montreal,
which, for extent of tlisplay and character of the special exhibits, have been unsui'-
passed by any similar exhibitions in Canada. The annual pri/c list amounts to
about 81,4<l(l. of which about 8700 are given for flowers, the balance for fruits and
vegetables. The presi'nf membership numbers about (iOO.

Five local societies for the promotion of fruit cultni'e, viz. : Abbotsford, Brome,
Shefl'ord, Missi^(^uoi and L'I?<let, are operated under the psitronage of this associa-
tion, and practicall}' constitute as many local divisions (>f it.

3Iuch valuable work has been accomplished in the introduction and testing of
new vai-ieties; the introduction of ]?ussian fruits; the introduction of valuable
ornamental and forest tiees. and in the diffusion of general information. The society
also took an active part in the formation of the exhibit of fruits for the Indian and
Colonial Exhibition.

It thus appears that, aside from their purely local functions, these orgai.iy-ations
havf all accomplished a large amount of most useful work in the direction of
promoting the general welfare of the country, and I have deemed it of importance,
at this time, to call your attention to these facts, not only because they directly bear
upon the objects of this convention, hut also because they are mo.s't suggestive of
work which can now be undei'taken in the most thorough manner, and to the
execution of which the highest authority will give its sanction.

The work we are now called upon to perform is of an important character, and,
although I cannot attempt to give an outline of all those subjects to be presented
for your consideration, yet tliere are a few which, from their relation to the larger
questions of export and import, I feel should be bnnight to your notice in a some-
what conspicuous manner.

Government statistics show that the value of exports and imports of fresh fruits
from 188:} to 188S inclusive, may be stated as follows :—

KxiPDit. Iiii|M)rt.

l^'^:! $40!»,1&5 §814,544

1S>4 1T:{,048 778,44(5

i8s:» G:{r).24o t;9;{,i69

1^^'i 4!»!t,r)IlS (181.740

18.^7 871,188 75t7.5Sl

1'^^^^ 857,005 780.2(10

From this it appears that the volume of imported fruits nearly equals the
export, and in some years has been more than four times the amount. An allow-
ance should be made, however, for those fruits which, like lemons and oranges,
cannot be grown here, but which are consumed in large quantities. It is apparent,
nevertheless, that while t!ie Indian and Colonial Exhibition did much good in the

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way of drawing greater attention to our fruits, and while, as a result, more fie(|ueMt
apjilicat ions from England, for the shipment of apjdes, have been received, it has
not resulted in that enlai-gemeiit of our export tratle hich it was conlidently hopcnl
might follow. This result may to some extent be due to inditlerence of the pro-
"lucer to fluctuation of market piices both at home and abroad, and to other similar
f-auses ; but there isgood reason for entertaining the belief, as will be shown in papei's to
be presented foryour consideration, that transportation constitutes the principal factor
in determining this result. As has been amply demonstrated by the Nova Hcotia
fiuit growers, apples can be phu-ed on the London market in prime order, but if the
shijtper feels tJiat there is nodependence to be placed upon the way in which his fruit
is storeil and han(ilc<l. and that il is largely a matter ot chance whether' it arrives in
good onler or a mass of rotten ])ulp, he will pr-efer in most cases to take his chances
with the home market, where his reputation, at all events, can be maintained. This
is one of the most impoi-tant questions to be brought before you, as upon it the firtirre
possibilities of our- fririt trade wholly depenil. The question, however-, is one of marry
aspects and reqrrires a thor-orrgh and unprejudiced consideration of all the facts bcrrr-
ing upon it. While on our part it is only pr-oper to ask that the railr'oa<ls shall
handle the fruit with care and forward it with despatch, and of the steamboat com-
jianiesthat they pr-ovide pi'oper- storage and ventilation, the producer- and the shipper-
mrrsf. on the other hand, be willing and ready to guarantee their part in the whole
pr-ocess. and see that the picking and packing are pr-operly executed. Fruit poorly
packed will sutler injur-}' under- the most favourable conditions of tr-ansport. The
interests of the producer-s and of the tr-ansportation companies are one, in the en-
coui-agement of an enlarging export, but each must do the part falling to them, and
it has been telt that the importance of tlris subject deserved more than oi-dinar-y
consideration. It is with a view to making some detinite ar-r-angement that repre-
sentatives of the various railway rmd steamboat companies inter-estcd have been in-
vited here to discuss this matter with you, for the same reason, also, the Dominion
Dairymen's Association will hold a joint meeting with us this evening.

Another important aspect of this question is our relation to the United States.
Looking somewhat more closely into the exports and imports for the past two years
I tind that in 1888 apples to the value of Sl^T, 013 were expoi-ted to the United States
arnl in 1880 this was increased to8284,252. The bulk of these wei-e sent from Ontario
and Nova Scotia.

The imports of fruit during the same period were as follows: —

ISSS, 1S,S'.I.

Apples 6f;,54S 40,(it)5

]ilackber-ries i

Gooseberries j mrr^ 1 (l«U

Raspberries [ ^^^^'^^ ^''J-'-*

Strawberr-ies )

Cherries ) - - 1 1 .> i-.i

Cu.-r-auts [ ^''-^^ -'l*'*

Cr-anberries \

Plums C 8(],790 3(1,581

(Quinces 3

(irajies, U.S 30,452 20,532

do G.B 22355 22.351

52.807

51.883

An inspection of these figures in detail shows that it is irot a question altogether
of import to non-pi-oducing Provinces, since s.»me o,' the largest imports wer-e to
fruit-producing Provinces, and it is mor-e probable, so far as apples are concerned at
least, a (juestion of tr-ansportation and local market values. It is, therefor-e, a

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question if xhh convoution shoulil not consider some moans Ity which any local
necessity' ot IVuit could be mot by the sur|)lu;a,iie otOlher Provinces, rather than
from a loreiicn country.

In tlu' list of imported fresh fruits there are doubtless some — cxcludinti'. of
course, <>ran<;es, lemons and other sub-tiopical t'ruits — which cannot be raised in
sufticient (luantity to meet the demands; but this is not true of the majoi-it}'. On-
tario can raise as i;;ood small fruits as New York, and so should Hritish Columbia,
and with a good soil and hi<;hly favouied localities for fruit culture 1 consider that
our present import of 81.'>-.(H>0 should not oidy lie otf>et by an increasing jiro-
duction, but be turned to an export. With the enormous population there is to the
south of us, with our I'clatively very small population, and with our ability to pro-
duce fruit, there should be no (juestion of import at all. I would, therefore, com-
mend to your earnest consideration the adoption of means looking to this end.

Among other questions to be presented to your consideration will bo tliose
relating to disease and the ravages of insect enemies; the decline of orchard culture
in districts where Ibrmerly it was a profitable pur>uit ; and the extension of
orchards into those parts of the country where they are demanded by the rapid
growth of population. Fortunately for the progress of the fruit industry in Canada,
the Department of Agriculture, through its experimental farms, is pushing forward
a most valuable work in this direction, and we may contidentlj' look for results in
the future which will be of the most important character.

Having thus bi'ought before you some of the most prominent of the questions
to be discus>ed here, I will not further detain 3-ou from the important work of this
session, but will declare the Convention open, and ask ytui to give to its proceedings
that close and uiidivided attention that its importance demands.

HoRTICUKTURAI- WoRK OF THE Exi'ERIMEXTAL FaR.MS.

Prof. W. Satixders addressed the convention on "Horticultural Work at the
Centi-al Experimental Farm.' He said : Mr. Chairman and gentlemen, — I am very
much pleased indeed to have an opportunity of appearing betbre this important con-
vention of Iruit growers to say a few woi-ds in connection with the work of the
Experimental Farni as far as that work i)eai-s upon the important subject of horti-
culture. I realize the value and imj)ortance of such a.ssociations as these when I
recall what good work the Fruit (rrowers' Associations have done in this country in
the way of advancing the fruit interests. Although not a very old man, my meniory
carries me back to the time when, shortly after the Fruit Growers' Association of
Ontario was organized, and belore it received any Government aiil, I remember
what a struggle we bad from year to year when we had no resources but the fees of
the few members who paid their dollar or two dollars a year. How ilitficult it was
to make ends meet and to keep ui) interest in the association at that time and to
carry on the useful work wltich was contemplated. It may not be generally known
to the members, but I think it is a matter which is worthv of mention (m this occa-
sion that it was the Hon. Mr.Carling, who now .stands at the head of the Agricultural
Department of this country, who incorporated the Fruit «irowers' Association of
Ontario and got for it the first grant of money which it received— §r>00. (A|)plau.se.) 1
remember receiving a letter from him then — I was president of the Entomological
Society' at that time — in which he suggested that our society sliould oru:anize under
the Agricidture and Arts Act of Ontario, promising a grant of 8400. At that tin»e
the Act was being introduced by the honourable gentleman. It was giving those grants
to the Kiilomoh>gical and Jlorticultural Societies which started them in t'hcir career of
usefuhiess, and that work has gone on ever since, to the great advantage of the whole
community, not only in Ontario, but in the Dominion of Canada. The reports which
they have printed and circulated ti-om time to time have found their way over the
whole country, and they have had a great etfect in advancing the interests of fruit
culture ami improving the character^)f the fruit grown, and plucini,' us in a position,
as fruit growers, of commamling the respect and confidence of the markets of the world

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any local
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se when I
country in
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remember
the fees of
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lie and to
lly known
this occa-
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jinoloirical
lize under

that time
lose grants
r eareor of
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ovoi' the
ts of fruit
a position,
'the world

for our products. Now, with similar objects in view, namely, that of benetiting the
whole community, the Kxperimenfal Farms have been organized and one of the objects
contemplated in this organization is to advance horticulture ; and 1 propose, during the
tew moments which I shall occupy j'our time toendeavtmr togiveyou a brief sketch of
what we are doing in this respect as well as what we hope to be able to do in the future.
At the I'lxperimental Farm at Ottawa, which is the Central Farm, a large portion of the
preparatory work is done, which has its bearing on tlie whole Dominion, for that is
the distributing centre from which plants, trees and shrubs are sent to the other four
farms, a< well as to other points for test. One of these farms is in Xova Scotia, the
second in Manitoba, the third in the North-West Territories, and the fourth is in
IJritisj) Columbia. Now, at tiie outset here it is veiy important that a good
foundation be laid, and that foundation in the larger fi-uits consists, in the
first jtlace, of the ordinary standand varieties of apples, such as are grown with
such advantage and protit in the western parts of Ontario. Those of y(tu who aie
conversant with the climate of Ottawa know that we have here a very fair propoi--
tion of cold weather during the winter months. During the present winter two or
three hundreil miles west they have scarcely had any snow ; but we have had
continuous .sleighing since Xovember, anil we expect it to continue until spring.
Tills is the u>ual character of our winters. Such continuous cold weather, and
especially when very low temperatures prevail, has its effect on fruit trees, and
the result is. luany of the more tender varieties will not endure the vicissitudes they
are exposed to in this climate. Yet it may be saiil that the climate of Ottawa is
fairly lepresentative of the larger portions of Ontario and Quebec : for, taking the
more favourable fruit areas out of Ontaiio, there is a very large proportion of this
Province north and east where the conditions of temperatui-e whicli obtain in Ottawa
]irevail to a like degree and stand in the way of very successful fruit culture. In the
test orcdianl of standard varieties at the Expei-imental Farmmany sorts will be tried
which we do not expect to succeed with. This will be done so that we may be able
to give the information to those who apply for it as to whether certain varieties are
likely to succeed or not. Judging from the growth of the trees in the three years
we have had the work carried on, there is a promise of success with a large number
of varieties which it was thought likely, when the Farm was started, would not grow
in the Ottawa valley. I think a veiy important part of our work will be to dissem-
inate knowledge throughout the country as to what varieties will not succeed, as
well as in legai'd to those which are successful, and thus save the people from
spending their money in a useless manner. Beside the oi'chard of standard trees, we
have a larger orchard in which there are ITO to 180 varieties of Kussian and north-
ern Kuiopean trees. These aie all being carefully watched, and although they have
only been two years in the ground there were two trees last year whicli fruite<l and
bore some nice apples. We expect during the next year that some others may be
found to bear a sufficient quantity to permit of testing the quality of these fruits
All such information will be reported on from time to time, giving full information
as to the most jiromising sorts. In every case the plain truth will be given
in reganl to everything tested, as far as the judgment of the officei's in charge
will permit, and 1 think that the reports we shall gi ,'e from time to time
as the liussiaii fruits progress in these orchards will be very important. There is
one thing that I wish to say here as a word of caution. It is this:
It is too often the case with fruit growers in the more tem})erate portions of the
Province, in their ilesire to gel everything that is now, to encumber their orchards
with varieties which they would lie better without, and I would say that there are
very tew of these IJussian varieties of apples which it is desiiable to grow in those
<listricts where the best standard sorts can be produced, but some of them are likely
to serve a most useful purpose in those districts of the countiy where the better and
higher flavoured fruits, for which Ontario is now so noted, cannot be successfully
grown. If we can place eventually such infoi-mation at the disposal of every settler
in the more distant settlements, which will enable him to grow fruit, even tJiouah it
is not of the ^-er}' highest quality, it will be much appreciated ; it will add to his

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comfort iiiiil In tlie lu'alU> olhis tiiinily. ami i;ivi' him some of the enjoyments wliich
wo are so favourod with in tlie older districts in which we live. Besides the tests
which havt' lioeii i-cierred to ot^apjiics. similar work is heiui;; done with jtears. ])hnn>
and cherries. With regard tocherrios. I thiidc thoyarc the most promi>iii^. next tn
ap])Ies. of all the hardy fruits with which we have to do. They i;ro\v very vi^oionsly.
and iiiilij;inif from the tew samples ot" fruit we have had on the trees I think they
a!'<' likely to he very tuieptaiiK' iiu'eed. and especially in those distiicts where fruit
is scarce. 'J'he orchards occupy a consideral'le area. The standard varieties of
apples arc planted thirty teet apart, and all the other trees twenty feet. There are
at least twelve or thirteen hundred in all. eon-istini; of ahoiii three hundred and
titty varieties, (".iiel'ul notes wdl he taken (d" these as they fruit, and information
that is needed or thoimht of sutlieieiit importance will he uiven to the pnhlic from
time to time in the fnnn of hnlletins, which ev'Mv one wh(» desires can have on
a])|ilicalion. In >mall fniit.s al>o very mm-h is licini; done. We have ontMiundred
and titty varieties ot;xra|ics ut' the named Mtits. besides a irreat many new seodinn's
which have heen orii^inated on the farm, in currants. <;oo>oherri»'s. raspherries and
strawlierrics the varietie- will ci>uni prohahly two or three hunilred moi-e, that is.
the named varietio. The-e are heiii;; caret'ully tested and compared from year to
year, an<l as tiie results are noted and opinions formed the inlormation is i^iveii to
the puhlic. In addition to thi~. we are tiideavourinirto oiiM-inate (Canadian varieties
(siodlinns jii-oduced 1 on the hlxpe; imental Farms. We had trait in Ottawa last year;
we tVuiU'd (('.ite a numhei' <>(■ seedlinj; strawhcrries and raspherries, s(»me of which
are very prt>misinl,^ Sami)les of .-.ome of the hest ot' these will lie found in the
exhihit when the fruit i> ariani^ed. I think I may safely >ay that we have amon<f
the new seedling ra.spherries some red varietie> of remarkahl}' ijood quality, which
will do credit to the Hxperimental l-"'arm>. ."Several luindre(l td' these new varieties
havcf already heen ]»roduced. and eutdi year will >ee larue additions to their number.
After their merits have been fully investiirated the best id" them will he sent first to
the Kxperimcntal Farms, an 1 atter that to other points, to be tested by ])ractical fruit
<i;i'ower>. as soon as the material for that purpose is available, and I thiidi in this way
we shall lie able to produce in I'le course of time, not only varieties that will do us
credit, but varieties that will be particularly well adapted for the colder districts,
for the reason that they have orij^inated here, ami are acclimatized to their sur-
roundings.

The continuance of such work will make Experimental Farms exceedingly in-
teresting places for fiuit growers to visit, and the interest will be increased from
year to year. The Central Kxperimental Farm is intended to serve the ])urpose3
especially of Ontario and Quebec; the Maritime Province Farm, situateil at Xai)pan,
neai- the point of junction between the Province of Nova Scotia and Xew Brunswick,
and very near the centre ot Prince Kdwai<l Island opjMisite, will sei've for these three
])rovinccs. Nova Scotia fruit has acrjuiied a good ivputation in the markets of the
world, and it has gained that name from the superior (piality of the productions of
the famed Aniuipolis Valley. That is a valley which extends for about 100 miles,
and varies in width from two to >ix miles." The idea i^ prevalent in Nova Scotia
that if you want apples you must g«(to the Annapolis Vallc}-; but recent experience
has >hown that this is nut the only district in Nova Scotia where good fruit can be
grown. In Xew Brunswick and Prince Klward Island there are promising or( hards,
ami there are good grounds for the opinion that many uselul and good varieties of
friut may be grown in these Provinces in MitHcient (pianlities to supplv the home
demand and leave a surplus tor foreign shipment. The idea that good fruit can only
be grown in the Annapolis Valley is beiui; gradually eradicatcil. Very good fruit i's
grown there.no doubt ; but there are other localitu's in N(»va Scotia, New iii'unswick
and Prince Kdwaril Island where fruit can also be grown to good advantage, and
this extension in the area over whicn fruit is grown will lead to a larger and more
general consumption of fruits of every .sort throughout those Provinces. When tlie
site for the Hx)ierinieiital Farm was chosen at Nappan I was told there would be no
use in trying to grow fruit there; but from the way the trees are thriving I am

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w

th:
Ih
at

AV

ha
an
an
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of

lit
lal

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15

nls wliicli
till' tests
rs. ])liiin>
^. next to
uoroiislv,
link tliov
KTC tViiit
ritMu's of
'Ikto :irt'
idi'od ami
'(•rniation
Itlic from

I liavc on

liuiidroil

st'odiiiys

nies ami

IV, that is.

II year to
■i i^ivi'ri to
1 varieties
last year;

of wliirh
11(1 in tlie
ive anionif
ity, wliieli

V vai'ieties
r number.

bnt tirst to

etical fruit

n this way

will do us

V disti'icts,
llioir sur-

edini!;ly in-
cased from
J purposes
It Xappan,
Jrunswiek,
I hese t h ree
kets of the
liR'tions of

100 miles,
ova Scotia
ex|)eriotHe
lit ean he
r orchards,
varieties of

the home
lit ean only
nod fruit is
lirunswick
intajre, and
p and m(»re

When the
k'ould ho no
iviuij I am

satisfied we shall he aide tit show that that district is eajKible of u;r()\vin^ <.(ood I'ruit.
Pa-<sinii- westward, there is an Mx|)erimental Kar'n in Manitoba, at lii-arulon; and
another at Indian IFead, in the Xorth-West Teri-itoiies As most of you know, there
are serious (dimatic dilTieulties to contend with in the Xorth-Wost in underlakini^ to
i^row fruit trees. Tin' tempcratuic is very low durinjf the vvinter, sometimes remain-
inii" lu'low zero for a month or more at a time. In looking over the reeonis ol tem
j)t'rature i-eceived Irom three Kxperisnental Farms. I find that for as much as a fort-
uiyht at a time the thermometer has remained as low as 25^' to!!')" below zero. It
i'e(|uires vei'V hardy fruit trees to stand su(di sustained cold. An occasional dip. fol-
lowed by warm weather, does not seem to have the same ert'ect on the vitality of the
trees, as di these continuous low temj)eralures, especially when they are accom-
])MMied by stroiiii' drvini!,' winds. Small fruits can be u;rown without much dilli-
i'uliy ill the Xorth-West, for the reason that there is usually enouiijh snow to
pi-iitect iheiii and they do not sull'er to the same extent from the low temper-
ature and dryiiiii- winds as do the trees l.']! to the time the hlxpcrimental Farm
work be-all, I have not heard of any trees beinn' taken lO that country
which were hardy enough to endure the climate. Some three years aii'o I
visiti'tl Sir honald Smith's jilaee at Silver Heights, near VVinnipcf^. and examined
the trees wbicdi were ])lanted there. There were ajiple trees of the Ihichess variety,
wliieh hail been planted for some years, but evt'iy year they had been killed down
!'! the snow line. When I saw these tn-es au;ain last year I found ver}' little chanu;e
in them; ibey were about llm same heiifht as they were two years before; so that
the prospect of ii'rowin<r the J)ucliess a|ij)le there is not very encoui'a|i(iiii;. I think
ihiit in the lied Jiiver Valley theie always will be a very considerable difliculty in
the way of i;rowiii<r fruit trees, for the reason that tlu' soil is so rich and stronii." and
deep that a late growth is sometimes induced in the autumn, and this soft new wood
will not endure growth when succeeded iiy severe cold. [ think this will not be
found to be the case so often in (hose jiarts where the soil is lifrhter further west.
On the bluffs and aloii^' the river valleys there are thousands ot' acres which,
I hope, it. may be practicable, before many years, to plant with fruit trees. We
have had two summers' and one winter's experience at Indian Head and a summer's
experience at Urandon, with about fifty oi- sixty varieties of liussian trees planted
tlu're of the hardier sorts of apples, and a considerable proportion of them have
]»a>^ed throuiih the very trying seasons referred to and promise fairly well. Our
experience so far has, on the whole, been encouraiiini;. The statement just made ly
the Honourable Minister of AirricultiU'e, that we may be able to find an a])ple. a> well
as other varieties of fruit, that will endure in the Xorth-West Territories, is quite
likely to be verified; indeed, I think, there is li'ood reason to believe we shall tind,
not only one, but a i^iootl many varieties that will suc<'ecd there. It is scarcely to be
ex]iected that the North-West will ever do mu(di in the way of exportiiiij; fruit, but
we may expect that as the taste for fruit becomes more i^eneral the demand will be
greatly increased. The jieople will want these hardiei' sorts for cookiiiii', aiul will
Nlill desire to buy the hii;h flavoured soi'ts grown in the east for the tables. If they
cannot grow these hanly varieties at home, many persons will be compelled logo
without fruit altogether, aiihi that is a very great deprivation. The success of small
fruits on the western farms has been more encouraging. I think there is no doubt
that at Indian Jlead. during the coming season, we shall have i^uite a cro|) of small
fruits. (Joostdieiries, currants, raspberries and strawberries have made fair growth,
although, on account of the dry Weather, they have not rea(died that develoj>ment
which is usually seen. I must also say a few words about JJritishC'olumbia, tor there wo
have a territory whicdi, I thiid<, will soon produce sulHcient fruit lor home consumjition
and a largt' surplus torex])ort toth:' mining districts and small towns in the mountains,
and to tiioso parts of the Territories where fruit may not bo so easily grown; also, to
Ohina, .Tajian and other Asiatic countries. I have never seen, anywhere, such cro])s
of ajiples, pears, plums and cherries as tluise of British Columbia. At tirst 1 was a
little doubtful in regard to the quality of these fruits, but when 1 visited the fairs
last year at New Westminster ami Ashcroft, and had opportunities of tasting the

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fruit aivl <>f rnmparinu: it as well as f could fi'Dtn rccdlloclioii with Ontario samples,
they impiesst'il mo as beiiii; very uood. -unl if ihi'V were at all iiilerioi' in (jiiality \o
similar varieties ^rown in the cast the difVerenec was not siiflieiently marked to
enalile rae to detcet it. I took siieh varieties as tin' Spit/.enherti:, I'ibston Pipjun,
Famense and (rravensteiii, and sevi'ial other hiifhly (lavoui'ed sorts tor test, and in
point of size they inueh surpass those i;rown in the east. The elimate is of that
character whitdi induces slow and reiiiilar irrowth all thriiUi;h the season, ami the
growth is continuous dnrini; a lonij jieriod. As a rule, the hii;h tlavoured varieties of
fruit aie produced of better fpiality as we uet turther north, and with the pi-oportion
of Cidd they get in British rolumbia they are able ti> grow fruits of higher flavour
than can be produced in the more southern districts of California. We soiuetimes
pnxlucc large ci-ops. but I havi' neversccn anywhere else tri'ess(»heavily loa<led with
fruit as i have there. They are also free from most of the insect pests and the pear
blight. They have the twig blight on the apples, but this is not a very serious
trouble. I think that with a climate that will produce su(di cropsof the fruits named,
and grow. also, peaches, apricots, walnuts and many other products to advantage?,
which may be shi})])cil to ditlerent parts of Canada as well as to Asiatic ports, Bri-
ti>h Columbia must soon become a fruit exporting Province. The climate is not
warm enough in any part I have visited to grow good graj)es; it is probable that in
many localities the earlier ripening sorts may mature, but there is not enough heat
du/-ing the summer to lijicn the higher flavoured varieties of grapes. There will, no
<loubt, be a great opening there for the caninng industry and the drying r)f fruits.
Should tlu' supply at any time exceed th«' demand, the surplus can easily be disposed
ot" by the use <if trait evaporators, as the dried fruit will bear shipment to any part
of the world. The object in vii>w at all the Hx])erimt; al Farms is to encourage the
people to gi-ow the very best i[uality ot' grain, and fruits ami do the very best tor
themstdves, so that they may have products of high quality to sell, which will com-
mand good prices. At the jircsent time, while they grow plenty of jjoars in British
Columbia, there are not \-i.'ry mai»y of them that are of very gooil quality. People
usually want. :.t first, something showy and big. and in altuost eveiy garden
3'ou will tinil such vai-ieties as tlu' •' Belle Angevine," specinu'ns «d" which will some-
times weigh as much as two pound.s. By Ixjiliiig a long time they may be madeser-
viceable as ji cooking pear, but as a taltle fruit it is a worthless sort. Better
vaiieties are now being I'apiilly introduced, and the jieople there will, no
doubt, soon be su])plied with the Vi'vy best sorts obtainable. An active
fruit growers' association has been recentl\- organized there, and a repre-
s«'ntativeof that association. Mr. Henry, is witli us to-day. I visited Mr. Henry's
place last Septemhei-. and was astoiushed at what I saw". He hiul Cuthbert rasp-
berries which had made nine feet of growth in a season, ami he told me that they
liad been gathering fruit all season ott'lho.se bushes, and there was fruit still on them,
I saw gi-ape vines that had iijad*- fifteen and twenty feet of growth, while trees in
nursery rows showed an annual growth of four to six feet! From this it may be
inferred that orchards could be got into bearing in very mii(di less time than can be
done in the east, and that tlu; ])roiiress of fruit-growing may reasonably be exi)ected
to be very rapid. A large orchard has been started at the Experimental Farm in
British ('olumbia, where it is proposed to test all varieties of fruit which give pro-
mise of success, so that we may be prepared to give information with respect to the
growing of fruit and other products, so thai we mav help the settlers U) make the
most of their products, and cultivate their land with the greatest advantage and
profit to themselves and to the country. 1 have now given you a very brief outline
ofs(»meof the fi-atures of the work being undertaken at the E.Kperimcntal Farms
bearing on the advancement of horticultur-e.

The convention then adjourned u .til 8 o'clock.

17

» sainpli's,
|iiali(y to
narked to
•n l'ip]tin,
'st, anil in
is of tliat
ami the
ai'iotiesot'
ti-oportion
M' flavour
uinuitimos
a(lo(l witli
I tho poar
•y serious
its named,
dvuntai;!',
)orts, liri-
jate is not
)lo that in
oiii^h hoat
re will, no
X of fruits,
e disjKtseil

my part

)ura!j;e the

ry host lor

will com-

in British

People

ry gai'den

will some-

! madeser-

Bettcr

will, no
\.n active

a ve]ire-
r. Henry's
bert rasp-
■■ that they
1 on them,
le trees in
it may bo
lan can be
Li expected
il Farm in
\ give pro-
pect to tho
I make the
intage and
ief outline
ital Farms

I'lvKXiNti .Session.

A joint ineetiuu- ol the Dominion Dairy A>soeiatiori and the l>ominioii Fruit
(i rowers" Association was helil at the City Hall. ( )ttawa. on the evening of Wediie>dav,
I'Mli Fi'iiniary, I'lot'. i'enhallow occupying the chair. The Council Chamber wa» well
tilled with mend)ers ol" the associations and visitors.

TiiK CiiAiK.M.w. — The meeting which W(! hold this evening is to be reiriirded as
a joint CMUveniion of fruit growers ami dairymen. We have amalgamated this
evening to diseu>s those (pU'stions of common interest to us. and those (juestions
relate to e\'|)ort especially, so tar as concerns the handling of fruit and ilairy j)r()-
diicts ;nid slii|'meiit in cold storage in ^teamship>. As this nritter corn'orns the
transportation comiianies ([uite as much as it iloes ourselves, we have n\ade spt-eial
arrangements for the representation hei'e of the various companies eoneerned. [
have |»leasuie in staling that the Allan Tiine is repi-esented by .\[r. Watt, the Heaver
l.\x\i' by -Mr. .Shaw, the various London lines by .Mr. tieild, and the Dominion Line is
to be re]»resented by Mr. Torrance. The (!aiuidian I'acitic llailway is repi'c.sented
by their loeal re]ir'e-«entative in Ottawa, and the (rrand Trunk Jiailway ha^ ulso a
representative here, but unfortunately I have not the name of this gentienum at
l)reseiit. The Canatlian Express Com])any is also represented by a letter which I
liave from the President, stating such features of the ti-ansportation as concern his
(•on|)any, and which will be read in proper c()urse. The proceedings i think wo
will open b}' the ]iresentation ot" two papers which have been prepared specially for
this sulject, and on the basis of tliese ])apers we hope that the repres(Uitative> of tho
various companies and those particularly intei-esteil in the question of exportation
will enlei- upon a free discussion. I would therefore call nyum Mr. >V. McJ). Allan,
of (roderich, to read his jtaper about the transportation of fruits.

Mr. A. -MrD. AiJiA.v. — Mr. President and gentlemen: 1 have no paper on tho
transportation of fruit. There Avas some 'misapprehension regarding this subject, if
it was understocMl that I would read a paper or lead otf with a discussion of this
subject. I did not understand it in that way until this morning. L'nd(!r the cir-
cumstances, I am taken at a disadvantage. Ilowevcr, 1 am willing to do what I can
towards iiuroducing th(* subject in as fair ami square a way as I possibly can, and I
have no doubt there are ])arties here quite competent to correct me in any mis-
statements 1 may possildy make. I look upon the question as one of the most
im])orlant questions afl'ecting the fruit interests of this country, and looking at it in
that way I am willing to allow the agents or representatives of the transportation
companies who may be present to take the usual method adopted by some of them
of avoiding this question, and i will begin by admitting the points that they usually
advance in order to avoid the main points at issue — that is, I am willing that wo
shall take a certain proportion of the blame on our-selves. Indeed, I am willing
possibly to go further than a good many will admit. I know I rind parlies not
willing to go as far as 1 am willing to go in this respect. I believe that there are
]»oiiits connected with this subject that we ourselves as growers and as packers and
as shippers can remedy to a very large extent, so that I am unwilling to place the
entire blame upon the transportation companies by any means. There is blame
enough resting there, as we shall see probably before this discussion has ended, and
there are a good many points, if they are willing, they can reraed}'. In the first
})lace, the blame rests away back with the fruit grower himself. The tirst point of
blame is that the fruit grower does not grade the fruit properly to begin with. We
have already discusscil those subjects. We have discussed them in eveiy hall and
on every corner in every town and village in this country. We have tried our best
to tlrum the ditt'erent points into the fruit growers aiul fanners of this country.
We have not only then to make a specialty of fruit culture, but we must grow fruits
as they should be grown for the markets, and it is only in this way that shippers
can ixet fruit of such a kind and quality as can Ite packed for tho European and
other markets. ,So, I saj*. in the tirst place the growers themselves are to blame for
not growing tho fruit properly, and the point I make there is simply this: with that

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fruit that is not snpplitMJ witli fho nocossniy olcnuMits to ]»r(M|ii('o fruit of proper
quality that Iruit will not cairv as well as it would otheiwise. Then the jtiekin^ —
1 eon(ji<ler that jjrolmlily one of the greatest «eciots ot tlie wliole apple trade, ami
apples are tlie enief coninier<'ial fruit of this eountiy. Prohahl}' the li'reatest seeret
in the wlioK- traile is the simple seeret of knowini;- wIh'U to j)iek the ajjples. Tliere
is a point the peo))le have not con«>i(lereil suflieiently. There is a riirht time to jiieU
the a)i]iles and there is a wiontr time. If you leave that fruit upon the trees until
you eonsider it is rijm then liii' ri])cninij; process is a decayintf process, and it has
^one so far that that fiuit will not earry t() a distant market — no, or it even will
not carry to a very near tnarket. It has lost a laiice ]iro|»orlion of its juoper keej)-
in<r <|iiality. Now. that is a jioint that is well worth studyinir. I have found this
freijuently aflir picking; up y-ood windfalls that of course have fallen ahout the time
!in ap])le begins to ixet its eolonr. aliout the time the apple has reaclieinTS"niiiturity. so
far as urowth is concernecl. Takinir these windtidls and ]iackinu' them away care-
fully in the same cellar with ])icked ajiplcs, I find that the culls or windfalls
will keep lontjcr than the others. Why? liecause the windfalls are j)icked hy nature
In the windstorm in ]iropcr time, and the others left too lonijon the tree. What wo want
is to have our t'ruil keep for the loni^cst jios.-ilde time and reach the furthest mar-
ket. Then the ])ackcrs are to Idame. There is a certain amount of Maine there for
looseness in ]iackini;. The jiacker should he a scientific man ; he should understand
each individual variety he is packiiiir, hecause a variety sliifhtly s]»oniry will re-
quire a little more to tiixhten the hairel jiroperly than a variety that is crisp. There
is a certain amount of ^ive to it. and it will require a little more to till that barrel
anil have it tiirht. On the other hand, a yreat many ]iackcrs put loo much in a
barrel. There is no iiecosity for that at all. Thai i> not jrood ])ackini;. Then, pass-
inir f'roir. that, 1 would irive certain points 1 would fix in the matter, perhaps net
strictly accordini: to the I'xt yiven me. However, they are jioints that come in in
inti'oducinii' the subject, and should I'cceive a urcat deal of care. We have heard a
great deal about the ])ackages in which cheese and butter are sold ; we saw a s])eci-
meii on the tabb' to-day of' a package of (dieap butter — i:ood iiutter made cheapen
account of the package. We want the same thing in t'ruit ; we want a good patdvage.
a neat package and a (dean pa(d<age. because when we go to the distant nuirket the
b yer is going to judge what is inside by the ]iackage. If he sees a good ])ackage
that has <'aused some trouble and expense to manuiiicture, a neat pa(d<age anda(dean
])ackage, he naturally concludes that tlie^iwnt-i' of thai could not atVord to put up a
mean, contemptible artitde inside. He has somethitig worth wdiile there, and he is
very willing to buy on the chances; whereas, in the other case they would not buy;
if they tlid so it would be at low ])iices. It is necessaiy in shipidng that wi' should
have cars perfectly clean. There is a point wherein we have found very great difti-
culty. As well as having cars (lean, those cars should be supplied to us with dis-
patch. When we have fruit to shi]» we want the cars there, ami in some sections
whei'e we have not competition wo find u great deal of trouble in getting clean cars.
I have seen shi])pers ship in cattle cars, in open cars used for ship])ing cattle, and
they were bound to get the fruit oil" in some way. to save it from perishing. These
aie points that are iiecessaiy to bo looked after, and these are ]»oints we want the
railway conijianies to look after. AVe want the railway comi)anies to look after these
points in proper season, and they should know the fruit districts and the quantity
whi(li will reipure shipment. They can easy know in projjor time about the ship-
ping (juantitj- from the different .sections, "judging from what, they can tell the
amount of cai- room that will be required during the seasim. They can get
these particulars ibr the summer, fall, and winter fruits, and knowjiretty near the
ajiproximate amount to be furnished, and they can judge the cars thoty want to
supply. It i.s ab.solutely necessary to look to t'he supply, and have enough of the
cars on hand to carry that fruit away. TJien wo have found fault fre(juently witli
the railway companies and other carrying comptmies for delay. A great deal of tlie
delays on the railway company's hand's is owing t(t the company's emj>loyees shunt-
ing the cars off here and there, where there is a car or two to be got here and more at

way

is a

steal

done

deal

cons;

the ^

"with

piac

and

the (|

is grl

]ieat[

to g(|

for ml
matti
AVe
and
me tl
if nol
l>oin|
... storil
It cal
the f|
in a
will

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19

pro] 10 r
I'kiiif; —
:t<U\ aixl

st SOvTOt

Tlioiv
• to jiicU
t't's until
1(1 it has
von will
tt'i- koo])-
)iin(l this
tlio timo
urit}'. HO
iiy caro-
wintUallis
>y nature
\vc want
est niar-
tlicro lor
)(U'rstan<l
will ro-
;p. Tlu'i-e
at barrel
uicli in a
lion, pass-
I'liaps net
onic in in

0 lioard a
w a s]>oci-

cheap on

paoUage.

larket the

1 ])aokage
Hul a clean
» jiiit up a

and ho is
1 not buy ;
wo should
i^roat difH-
i with dis-
10 sections
L'lean cars,
cattle, and
IJ,^ Those
Q want the
after these
D quantity
; the ship-
in tell the
y can got
y near the
.'y want to
uj;h of the
lently with
deal of the
yees shunt-
nd more at

anotlier station. There i> a -ircat deal of ilelay in that respect. I'roliahl}- these ears are
lyin;^ at the station jfoodness knows how htnii" — sometinu-sdays — and the cai's will not
reach the seahoaid in time ioi* shipment on the vessel. There is a ijreat deal of
unneces.sary ilelay. 1 think, in a i^ real many if not the majority of cases. ()t course, tiie
railway eompanies claim liiat they cannot, unless that they have a train-load. atVoi-d
to I'lin directly to the seaboard. I'erhaps that is true. I was pioposini; that thev
>lionld run I'niit trains on coi-tain days of the week from c^rtain fruit i)oints, tor the
purposeol rea( hiiitr the sealioard in jtroper times for transhipment on certain vessels.
The dilliculty can be overcome in that way, and in discu'^sinj]f it amon^jst thomseh-es
these suir.i^e^lions can be ur,i;od. There might bo a remedy to some extent there at
all event--. I think the railway company, when they look into that mattei- pniperly.
Avill be able to provide a remedy to some extent. It they cannot remetly the wron;;'
totally, if the growers and shi))pers moot them hall way oi- part of the way, we will
lie doing something. We want them to try and do something. That damage in
shuMling is a damage we have discussed before. I have mentioned it several times,
and that damage continues, and it isa very much more serious damage than the I'ail-
Avay companies aio willing to admit. Thei'o is a damage there, and a serious ilamage,
even if the baiTols are not battered together oi- if they are not sniashetl open, Tiiey
are, however, freiiuently broken open. Tiiat isa very common thing, and f have no
donbt the agents here present will have noticed this at the point of transt'er. They
will have noticed that on opening the cars and transferring the goods to the vessel
that there is scarcely a car without some barrel smashed open. Tiiat is done by
phuhting. Theie is damage to the fruit in the barrels, owing to rough shunting. We
know how roughly they jostle us about sometimes on the passenger cars. We have
suggested the remedy adopted in Kngland of using butlers between the cars, and it
seems to remedy thoditliciill}' there most thoroughly, and tiio railway companies have
complained of the exponsi^ of this remedy. I don't know, but 1 should fancy it v/ould
save them considerable in their own rolling stock, in the damage to their own rolling
stock, by the adojition of some scheme in that lino, let alone the damage to the goods
in transhipment.

Then there is often delay and very often damage in the transfer from the rail-
way company to the steamships. That is a point that has been discussed often, and
is a point that some have paid a good deal of attention to. I could mention some
steamshi]) com]ianies that liave paid a good <leal of attention to this matter and have
ilone considoi'able towards remedying this defect. Still there appears to bo a good
deal of damage there, which 1 tliink, Avith proper care, might be remedied to a
considerable extent. Then a loading point would be this : The accommodation of
the steamship companies. I believe there is a point that a gieat deal can be done
with resjiect to. The fact of the matter is, that the fruit culture of this count rj' is
piactically at a standstill. Why ? Simply because we are not able to take the crop
and land it in the markets of Great Britain by means of steamships in anything like
the conilition that it is when ])icked or even when it reaches the seaboard. There
is great damage on the ship, there is no doubt about that. There is a damage by
heating. Noav, it is necessary to stick as close to nature as possible, and in order
to got a little closer to nature than we used to be, some of us are .going to try a new
form of barrel, called the ventilated barrel. Some of us who have looked into the
matter have groat hopes of this barrel. Wo want proper ventilation for our fruit.
AVe want fresli air in the compartments of the vessel. That has got to bo provided,
and this fan system, as 1 have examined it in some of the vessels at Montreal, seems to
mo to be a step in the right direction, and will remedy the defect to a great extent,
if not entirely. Probalil}' if that system be carried out to pertection it will meet the
l)oint perfectly. It is an atmospheric blast that we want. We do not want ice
storage. We had a test of that at the time of the Indian and Colonial Exhibition.
It cairie<l the fruit well across the ocean, but being an unnatural atmosphere, when
the fruit leaves the vessel it perishes more quickly than if it had been all the while
in a natuial atmosphere. That can be seen bj' Iceeping fruit in an ice-house. You
Avill tind that when you take it out it will decay much more quickly than it doe^i

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wht-n ki'jtt in a more natural atmnsphpro. Wo want tlic stoamship cnnipanios to
providi! (loan aceoninKnlatinn. 'I'lu'i-i' inii>t Itc nothing' I hero thai will ^Ivo an oilour
to tin- fruit. an<l there is nniliirit; that will take an oilour <|uicUer liiaii fruit. Tin-
mimienf the fruit takes tlie least ixioiir. lliat inoMieiil it heijins to ilecay. It will not
keep under such ciretiinstanee-. at all. If there he any <lisai;reealile smell on hoard
a >hip the fruit will he very a))l t«. lake it up, and anyone with a shai-i) taste will
<|ui(kly notice it il in hii^h llavoured varieties. I icfer, particularly, to vesseU earry-
ini; ealtle. In vessels of that description they have to Im very parlieulac indeed — in
faet, I alnio>t (juestion whether they will he aMe to separate the eatlle and the fruit
de]>artments so as t(t keep the fruit i'w^i' i'vuux coiitaniination. Il is possilde that
they can, and I hope they can. This matter of vessel accommodation is one that we
should press very >troii<^ly, and I helicve thai if <)ur ste:iinshi])s ])l3'in<>' lietween
Montreal and British ])orts would ])ay more altenlion to this — and we have hrouifht
it lpefi)re them several times — it would he an easy matter l()r us. as memhers of the
Fruit drowcrs' Associations, to i^o to the ))eople and advi>^ thorn lo i^o into fruit
culture on a much lai'i^ei- scale than now. Moreover, we would he ahle not onlj* to
ship oiir wintci- fruit in mueh hetter condition than heretofore, hut we would he
ahle to ship our fall I'ruit and summer fruit. We oiii;hl to he aide to ship those
varieties. 1 ti'll 3'ou, there is more money in summer and fall a])i)h\s in (treat
Bi'itain than in the host winter aj)ples, if we can land those aj)])los there in
anythini;- like fair order. The ])eoph' of (Jreat Britain want fruit at that
particular season, and they are willing to pay for it at that \'\uh\ We have line var-
ieties of summer and fall t'ruit that we can ship now — varieties that would take the
eye of the Britisher at once. But we must have the aeeomiu<»d!ition in order to do
that. I believe we can <;;et that in the way 1 have mentioneil. and also by means of
ventilated cars. They have cars enouich of that descriptio'>. and they would supply
us with these if the steamships ])lyiRi; across the Atlantic would ii;ive us thorouixh
accomodation in carrying tho fruit. This is a matter lying with the steamship com-
panies. If they want to c.\ten<l the fruit trade of this i)omiiiiou. that is one of the
most important points to take into considerati<in for the accomplishment of that
end. If they do that it will enable us to go to the fruit growers all over the Domin-
ion and advocate an increase of cultivation. Thei'e is no trouble in getting that if
we have these arrangements satisfactorily made with respect to ventilation. I
might say that the line I examined was the Beaver Line, at Montreal. I went over
one of their vessels and examineil their system of ventilation, as well as their system
of cold air by the fan system. I must say right here that I believe in .giving honour
to whom honour is due, and when we are dealing with these public corporations I do
not want to put one against tho other, but I wish to give honour where it is due. In
my experience, the Beaver Line has done more for fruit growers tlian any line jih'-
ing across the Atlantic, simply because they have put that accommodation on their
ves.sels. Since they have done that I have not heard a single complaint nor a bill
of damages presented for a single cargo carried yet. We cannot sny that of the
other lines. Against the Allan Line and others, too. bills upon bills fordamages have
been presented. Cargoes that have been watched to their vessels and watched
while being taken on were found on arrival to bo damaged, and badly damaged.

Mr. Torrance. — I would like you to establish that.

Mr. Ai-L.\.\. — You can have the floor when I am through. Since the C(dd blast
was put in the Beaver Line steamers we iiave not received notice of one single claim
fordamages. If the lepresentative of that line is hero he can say if they have
received any such notice; but we have not. Wo have heard of innumerable cases
with tho other lines. Then there is another difficulty when we come to the bills ot
lading. The difficulties with respect to the bills of lading have no end to them.
The hills of lading of tho present time Avere ov-idonily invented about Adam's time
or thorealiouts. I do not know of a more one-sided contract than the bill of lading
than we are compelled to use. It is not a fair contract. The carrying company is
not willing to undertake anything, and when there is a bill of damages thov always
moot you with this bill of lading. They are protected at once"while \ho poor

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shipjier or fruit growei', whoever ho may be, who is prosoeiiting this business, iuis no
ri'MU'dy. I iiisianeel in my last annual address to th<" Fruit uroweis' A>so(iatioii
of Ontario an adual case that oecurre<l with the Allan liine. 1 lok that one caso as
a substantial tasf. Two bundled barrels of apples wi-re bought by a tirin in (Jovont
(rardi'ii. Ijondon. In Ihe first plaei', they were about a month in transit, and the
datiiauc upon thox' :,'(iO ItarroU was something like ClOlJ. I know what condition
they were in. 1 saw thoni and examined them for the party wIkj was soiling, and
also oxamiiic<l them on behalf ol the parties who were buying them. I say that
tho^e apples were in the proper condition to be shi[)ped: 1 saw as to the packing.
and 1 know they >liould have landed in period t»riler; but the result was the report
We got back. 1 pulilisheil that, and it will apfiear in m}' annual addn-ss with the
names of the |)arties concerned. The report was that tliei'e was a large ([iiaiitity
ol' cattle manure immediately above — 1 presume, on tlu- deck abov( — the ajiples.
The rejiort said over the apples, and I take that to mean on the deck above. A
compiaini was made to the steamship line, but they could not sue where they were
liable. The apples were all sale. When they »vere taken out, however, they were
at a lioiling heat. They wi-re in cider, and hot cider at that. Still, there was
nothing wrony there. No negligcnco — everything was done all right, in that case,
however, I blamed the (Ji-and 'flunk more than 1 blamed the Allan Line. The
Allan J-ine were to Maine for allowing the apples to u'o upon the steamer in such a
state, a- they were evidently not in a condition to be shipped.

The bill of lading should give us the guaranteed count. I see no reason on
i-arth why it should not ; yet wo art; refused tliat all the time. If I ship ten barrels
to a friend in any town in Kngland I get a bill of lading for ten barrels. If there
is any reason why 1 should not get a bill for 10,000 barrels if I ship them,
they should give us a guaranteed count. We tind a loss there, because we do not
get that count. Wc invariably tind a shortage. I do not wish to suggest whore
that shortage comes in; but we say this much, that we do, through an arrangement
M'ith the agents once in a while get the count. We have succeeded in getting the
count, and never knew a shortage under the circumstances. J presume there was
no shortage, fn fact, the report we got from the vessel was, that there was no short-
age. T have not known a case \'et where they had a count where they did not get
the proper number of barrels of apples; \'et. on the other haml, where there is no
count but the shipper's count marked on tin* bill of lading there is a shortage almost
every time. It scarcely ever happens that we tind the correct thing. They naturally
sa\' our account is astray then. 1 see no reason on earth why the railway or steam-
ship coinjianies should not give us a count. It is veiy little trouble, and it would
encourage us to go on in the shipment of fruit, and encourage us to go on in the
growth of fruits. We have, on the whole, lost in this very matter. It is quite a
heavy loss.

Another ])oint that works against us is this: I believe the railway' companies
and the steamship companies here have considerable difficulty in getting the rail-
,way companies in Uritain to give the rates corresponding with the through rates
that we get here. In other words, as [ understand it, the railway companies
in Hritain charge local X'ates, and we can get no advantage, therefore, in going
to the inland market anywhere. Fx'equently where we want to ship to Manchester
or Birmingham or a market of that description, where it has to go from the sea-
board by rail, the companies here almost alwaj's, so liir as I know, repeat to us that
the rati' will be so-and-so, and it is local freight from the water delivered to the
point where we want to ship. That is one j)oint. but how best to call for a remedy
there I don't know. I believe our companies here could do a good deal towards
remedying that by working with the companies there. Probably they could do a
great deal moio than wo could, because we cannot get hold of them on the other
side of the Atlantic. ThsU is one point. Then the bills of lading seem to be all on
the side of the company. I have one here — one used by the Grand Trunk.
They are not liable for delays in the carriage of perishable goods; neither are they
liable for slior'agc. Take, tor instance, a case: If you ship a car-load of apples and

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they :uv sliunti'd oil at a station, a huiidi-fd ami fitly miles away, it is a simple
inattor to onon tlioso viivi*. Tlii'}' art» simply soak'd with a liltlo load button and it
is an »'a>v tliinuc •"'" aityoni' to liflp hiiustdt'to a iiarivi or two harnds oj'appU's. and
iIhtc will I'l' a shoitauo tlii'M. it is found ropiatiMlly that this is actinilly done.
Wi' have counted earefiilly at the >hii)|)in-r point and found a shoita,i,'e at Montreal.
What other way ean we account for it ? The jiailies say they are pei'fcctlv ceitain
of their count, that it is correct. Jind it conu'shacU thai there i>ashortai;eat .\lonlreal.
The ijootls must have hecii taUcn out in the meant inu'. somewhere durini; the
>liuntinic. I cannot see that it is t'air that lliey should not he liaKK' for the delays
to >!ne extent. It woidd not l-e fair that a railway i-onipany should ho lialde for
delavs in every case. l>ecau>e there aie some delays thai c;innot he avoided, hul
tlu're are soiuo delays surely that they should he liaiile for — uni\ece!»>arv delays.
Thei'c are unnecessary ilclays; we know that. Another diawbacdv is heat. A
>te:imship company is not liahle for heatimx the appl.'s. It' they packed them rii;ht
••iroiind ihe boiler, they would be in tine condition wlu'ti ihev ^ot to the i»lher side,
yet. 1 jiresumo the}' would tell us they are not lialde for anythim;. They are not
lialile for shortau'c. We have heard a ijood deal of stealini;" n'oiiiu; on up the Thame-,
and a j^rcat many eomplaints have come to us. We linil thai shorlaires are
inereasini:; ii\ the Allantie trade. NVe have wondered iiow that could occur. I do
not know, but I do know that shortaiics have oeeurred and daman's have occurred.
Wt'll now. I think I will leave it at that, in the meantime, ext-ept this point, that 1
think probably it is possible to lower the rates. I woiihl like the representatives of
the ei.mpaides present to consider that matti-r. Are the pi-esent throUijh
rates on apjtles as low as the rati's U])()n other correspoiidini;' i^oods — for instance,
on flour? I uiiderstanil the rates are very much lower on flour. I under-
stood that, but I do not knt)W how it is, and I would like some of theunitU men present
to answer that ([Uestion. Are the rates not htwi'r upon Hour than upon apjdes ? If
this is so. ] think that is wron^^ because I thiid< appK's are a much closer freiirht to
handle than flour. 1 should say api)les should be much lower. The li'entlemen
|irescnt will be able to tell us whethei' they are at presi-nt. i have been told that
this was so. Taking even these points I have mentioned tVom sim])le Jottings 1 have
made, I think the representatives of the railway and steamship companies should
lot)k at this nuitter fairly and sipiarely, and meet us like men, and do soniethinn-
towards remedyiim' some of these diHicullies. Let them do what Ihey can. We are
williiii:- to wait. We are williiii; to ])ut up and be satistiod with some improvement
if we enn see some ini])rovement n'oiuir on. Wi' do want to sec some impiovement.
We cannot yo to-morrow and a-k people toextiiid their ortdiard area. We cannot
advise them to do such thinii's unless we net the accommodation necessary to place
that fruit in competition with other countries in (Jreat Britain. Wc must come into
competition with other countries. We have the fruit lu're. We know thai there is no
country in the world can grow a commercial apple, a winter apple of as high a flavour
as W(' can in this Canada of ours. The finest ap|)les in the world are Canadian apple^.
Wc challenge the world to meet u> in any maricet foi apples. We have the flavour,
ami >ome seem to have struck the happy medium in ap[)le culture. We want the*
carrying compaiues to assist us in building up this trade to which there is practically
no limit. After the Jiritish nuirket is supplied I can understand that there areother
markets we can go to. We are willing to meet with the fruits of Dthor countries in
all these markets and compete for a place, and I believe we can compete successfully
if we can get the arrangements to suit us for fruit in transportation. (Applause).

Mr. p. C. Dempsev. — Mr. Chairman ami gentlemen, — The selecting and packing
of fruit for the market is something like the okl fashioned recipe for cooking the
bear — "catch him first;" so we want to consider whftt we are to do to get the fruit
first. If we cannot get good fruit it is nonsense for us to talk of selecting and packing
properly for the foreign market, because our foreign n\arkets don't want our fruits
unless they are good. Attention shouM always be given to the thinning of our fruits.
The fruits are i'asily thinned now. and in dealing with it we can accomplish two or three
different points. One is, that when we thin out the branches and remove a large propor-

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tioii oft he fruit hinlsaiiil a I urge proportion at the same time of whim I huds we aro accom-
plishing t woolijeits. .Viiotlur i», that we prevent niir trees tVoin cxhaustiiiLC thein-'clves
111 lilos>oinini;. Wi-hcarso many people say when we are looUing over the coMiilry in
the spring of the year: " We are not likely to have a good crop of fruit this year.
We have an alMindance oi" hlonm. iml the hloom is p.ile." Why is it jiale? The
icei' is actually e.\liMU>tinLr itself in liloss(»ms, and the nsull is inere is no vitality in
ilieinorin tho tree to induce the tlower to properly seeil. This accounts for tin'
lailiirc and pecpje can see it in the paleness of the lilossom>. The petal of the
Mos^uni iloes iiii| properly develop. Aiiaiii, the i-olouritii; of onr tViiit conies throiiii'li
ihe f'diauf. The tiavour. or that .saccharine matter which gives to our fruit its gnod
(lav'ir, comes from the tnliaue, and hy thinning the wood huds. we le-^en the i|uaiil ity
ot" foliaiif and l>y lliis ine.-iiis inciease the size, the strength and the healtli ot' the
I'oliagt'. So this is the season of tho year to thin out our fruit. We iiave more lime
to do it now and it is ea-ier done, 1 could not see how 1 eoiild get at my suliject
with Hit la\-iii:i liie foumlation lirsl. Now, when we get the tirsi iiuality of fruit uo
can calculate that we aro quito safe and can dejieiid on fancy |iriee-. I will just
"lUote a few of the fancy prices that have heen ohtained this year for certain
varieties of apples in Coveiit (iarden, liondoii. tjualitics ofXewton l'ippiii«. on the
-aiiie day varied from thirty •-hillings lo eighty per harrel. Why should theic ho
»ueh a ditleieiice '.■* The <ine lot evidently was properly sch'cted, properly |tacked,
and arrived in -I order. 1 have seen harreis of apples opcnotl there, and you
would see one . arrel Irom which they had negh'Cted to pi(d< out tin- lileiiiished
apples- -those not tit tor that market. These hleinished apph's ought rot to ho
sent there at all. I't-rhaps every apple in the other barrel is perlcct. It does
iioi maMei- so much aliout the si/e of the (dass .so much; eonseipicntly wo
•>hoiiM caietully pick ovi-r our apples if we are going to ship them to hjigh.nd
and put itt nothing hut lirst-class specimens, uniform in size throughout the harrel
and a- uiut'orm in cidoiir as possihle. LTnder no circumstances shoiiM we allow our-
.>elv(>s to lie infliieiiecd to havi! poorer apjili's in the centre of the harrel than the
iianel is faced witli. So nuich for selecting our ai>ples. Now, if we go there we will
~ee how caieful they are — that is. the growers — even in scleiting theii- potatoes
tormarki'i, I'lu' potatoes are never .sent to market in Kngiand without heing rid-
<lled. They send none hut pertbct spetdmeiis ; nothing hut coiiies up to a certain
style. All the smaller ones are out. Hy this means the pitrclia.sei- has contidenco
ill Ihe potatoes without e.\aininiiig Miein — contident that they are all going to he like
the sainjile. We want to have our apples all like tin- sample that appears on open-
ing Ihe (jarrel. If tlu-y open one barrel, let that be used for an index ot'our ship-
ment. Now. in preparing the harreis for packing where we are iiacking in barrels,
toi' foreign shipments, we want to cut the stems olf. We m t not pull it out. I
have in my hand an apple t'rom which the stem has bi-en pulled, and the result is that,
the appU' has begun to decay where the stem was removed. That is invariaiily tho
result. In a short tinieit will spoil. They will lay it to the bruise that always takes
place at the end of the barrel, that is caused from jiressing the head on. An apple
scarcely ever takes injury from the pressing it gets, TliQ injury is eaii.seil from
pulling out the stem. Xow, by taking a pair of scissors and <Milting otl'the stem, we
)prevent tho stem from pressing on tin- apple or cutting the skin, and we also pre-
vent it from rotting by tho pulling of it out. Then they should be carefully
jilaced in closing the barrel. Allow me here to say, that it pays to lino the
end ot" the barrel with jiaper; and white paper is better than any other. It
does iioi cost much. If we line the I'nd of tho barrel with paper, simply
i;'etti!ig this light building jiajier and cutting it out to the proper size of tho
liea<l of the liarrel, and [ilace it in first, they will open up very much pret-
tier and the. bruises will not show as much as if you had not used the paper at
all. When we get this done, we try for foreign shipment to sot our barrel on a large
flat stone or plank, so that wo can shake it every time wo put in a peck or half a
bushel of apples in the barrel. It does not get the same jar if it be not on something
hard. We continue this shaking until we get the barrel full, and by thoroughly

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shaking them wo do not have to raise the ajiplies so hinh nor to press them so
heavily, and consequently not to bruise them in jnittiiii^ on the head. Where these
iviints are ol>served we tind no diltteulty with respect to shickinn'. I liid have one
shipment tliatwas twenty days on the Athmtie, anil they were all slack when they
arrived. 1 fancy that accounts for a n'reat tleal of slack packinii", and what will
apply to tbrfeign markets will apply to our own as well. At our home markets we
can afford to take less for second quality apples. I should not ship any seconds
across tiie Atlantic, hut 1 would shi]i nothing hut firsts. There is a market foi-
second quality here, which does not amount to so much, and they can he sold cheaper.
I have noticed in our markets that there is veiy little ditferencc in what we realized
for tirst and second quality. We generally mark our apples in three qualities : X.
XX. XXX. The XXX is generally on!}- tit tor the foreign market. The XX we
ship to our markets in Canada, and we tind veiy little ditferencc between the receipts
from them and from the better quality. But the X, of course, has gone down so
that the ditfercnee is noticed. Here is a point we want to notice very particularly
in packing fruits. A certain (]uantity of apples wont from one pai-t of the country to
Montreal this year. They were all seconds or thirds, but were marke<l tirsts. Xow
this >hould never be done, from the fact that it has a tendency to lead dealers to
suspect that all Iruit growers arc rogues. They are not all that. There are honest
men among fruit growers as well as among other classes of people; but that man
who would mark a second quality barrel of apples as tirst should not be countenanced
by this association or anybody else. (Applause) ; because he denioi-alizes the tiade
and his conduct has a tendency to arouse suspicion against other fruit growers who
wish to be honest, Xow as to the form of package. I noticed in London the Fi-cnch
people were shiji])ing pears in boxes — a certain number to each box. Tiie boxes
were made to hold a certain number in proportion to the size of the fruit ; but only
one tier of pears was put in each box. Tiie boxes contained 4. 6, S or 12 pears.
Twelve was the most I saw in one case. You nun' have noticed from quotations in
the London markets this year that a great many cases of pears were sold from 3s.
Gd. — that is the lowest I heari! of in selling at — to IGs. per case. Xow I siiw in one
instance between Christmas and Xew Yeais, where a case containing four Glout
Morceau pears sold lor Itjs. There is 4s. apiece for pears. Will it pay us to grow
them carefulU' ami ])ack them carefully in any stj-le of package we see tit to use and
ship at that i)rice ? It will pay at os. (Id a case well. The way this is done is to
have a shallow case made, which they get up very neat and nice. They line them
witl cotton batting anil place the pears in, and put a little tier of batting between
er.ch specimen, so there is no chance for the pears to move while in this little case.
Then there is a layer of batting put over them again and tissue paper cut ornament-
ally put about the i)order. There is a little li<l with wire hinges and a hook to hold
it down. This little box is easily opened and easily closed; it looks very neat, and
the pears are very attractive when it is opened up. These cases are packed in larger
crates, so that the}- are quite easily shipped — ^_iust as easily as barrels o'f fruits. I
fancy it would pay us to send our tinest apples that way. ft would ])ay us to grow the
very tinest. You may have noticed that somewhere between the 12th and 15th Janu-
ary the last English apples were sold there. TakeCox's Orange Pippin. Jt is a small
apple ; vet these apples sell for 4 ])ence each. That amounts to B2a per bushel. Only
calculate for a tnoment if it will jiay to grow apples at just a quarter of tha't
price. We can grow in our orchards Jiere just as tine Cox's Oi-ange Pi|)pins with
ordinaiy cultivation as they can in Kngland and Wijles. I know this to lie a fact,
becausi- I have shown Cox's Orange I'ijipins grown in my orchard again>t the same
variety grown on the wall in Kngland. I could not see any ditfcence, and they
ackiiowiedged they could tind no difference in the flavour. Those which were grown
in the open orchard there were very inferior to ours both in flavour, form and nilour.
Xow. what ap])lies to ( 'ox's Orange Pippin applies to any other varietv. V question
arises right here, which we had better settle at once, because it is important. Why
18 it there are not n.ore of Cox s Orange Pippin and tine varieties i-rown in tlii>
country than there aic ? Do not misunderstand that quotion. Why is it there arc

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is thorn 80 no more? i will toll voii. It takos a nurservnian tour years to raise one of these

lioro thefie trees t'oiir foot high. It is a little growinir thing thon. It is quite hardy, but it

liave one grows so .slow that farinors will not have them. It' an agent came to deliver Cox's

ivhon they Orange Pippin, such as the best nursorymon grow, tho farmer would kick him otf

what will his premises. Thus tho fanners are destroying thoir own trade by wanting an e.Ktra

arUots wi' tine looking tree. They simply compel nurserymen to grow worthless varieties

3' seconds because they make the tinest tree. We want to do away with this idea,
narkot for ^\ Mb.mheh — What is the season for Cox's Orange Pippin ?

• > .\*^i'|-^^?l ^^^- l*'"'^!''^''''^'' — l>ocombor and Jainiary. It jnay be kept easily through ,lan-

\eiea iztv luirv with caro. It is a vorv hnc aijiile in Xovomber. From all tho accounts that I

I V\ V •> have lioen able to gather, the fruits grown in the intoiior of IJussia are dwarf-grow-

. 'Y^V! i'l^' They grow fow. I have a tree in my garden that is very hardy. It oiigin-

'^^' j'^^'l^'P atoil in the north of Scotland anil has boon producing a good crop of apples every

'.'• 1 .r* year tor tho last 12 or 1.") years; yot it is no bigger than a currant bush now. It

irticularly makes a healthy growth every year. It is a very hardy variety, and would grow in

country to Ottawa or anywhere in Canada. Tho snow jirotocts it. Nearly the whole tree is

sts. :\ow under the snow. Tho apple is also very tine; but we do not want to grow such

(lea|or& to little trees. We can grow something that becomes larger and more protitablo — not

are honest more ytroductive on the whole, because ^-ou could grow these trees four feet apart,

that man jj,^,[ j ijeii,.ve an acre of them would bo remunerative. Xow, I have it in my mind

ntenanced ^l^.j^. nothing would pay us better than to adopt tho principle of packing our fruits

tlie trade j,^ these little l>oxes ready for the i-etailer to sell in this market or the Montreal

iwers who market, or in any other market in the world. I am satisfied we cannot get such prices

le rronch 2j^^,,^> Cj^. f.y^(^,y pears and apples as in Covent (larden Market, London; but we can

liie lioxes certainlj' get better prices b}' shipping them in that shape. The cost would not

; but only exceed ten cents for a box that would hold a dozen Bartlett pears or a dozen Flemish

r 1- pears. Beauty pears. Su]iposing that box would sell in our market at 30 or 40 cents,

i)tations m Avould it pay us very much more than tho prices we receive by the barrel, even

Id trom 3s. \,y leaving out all our culled f'-uit to feed to the pigs, such as we .sometimes ship

sjvw in one i,^ b.'M-rols? I timcy that thesi- little boxes can be gotten up for [»erhaps four cents

four Glout apiece, because they can be made of a thin stutf, such as we make baskets of, and

us to grow cheaper than the crate basket holding tho same quantity. Now, for shipping in

Uouaeand baskets I tind invariably that the basket that is a little slanting keeps the fruit

done is to better ami stands shipping bottoi- than one that is perpendicular. It should be alittle
' line them slanting to the boticmi and arranged some way that that part is always kept down,
g between The fruit is wedged in that way. and if that one side can be ke2)t down, the
little case. apples can never roll and chafe about. You can understand tho advantage of hav-
ornamont- ing -i package a little slanting where thei-o is more than one thickness or one tier deep,
lok to hold Now something has been llntod about perforated ba.'i-ols. I don't want to oppose
y neat, and any enterprise of that kind. It may be proved to be of very great advantage to us
;d in larger to use tho jjorfoi-ated bai'ro! or tho open package, but that is not in accordance with
t fruits. I ji^y experience. I tind that if our fruit is packed a little warmer than the temperature
ogrow tho i(< lilcely to ite when it leaves our liands in a close packageit invariably carries better
l;)th Janu- and is safer than wiiere it is in open packages anil the fruit cooler than when we
t is a small pack it. When Ihe fruit is cooler than the surroai.ding atmosphere, you will almost
hel. Only invariably find condensing moisture from the surrounding atmosphere, and the pack-
er of that age liecomos wet. and tho result is decayed fruit. Almost invariably, I fancy, if our
ppins with fruits could be packed in the same temi)orature that they would have when they are
) be a fact. put in the hold of (he ship they would cany perfectly safe, but as a general thing
it the same they go to the hold of tlu; shij) cool and they are put in this warm place. They

and they condense a large amount of moistuie. and in a short time you will|tind water running

.ore grown out of the package on board the shin. 1 have seen this thing, and 1 know what the

ind colour. effect is exactly. My frieml. Mr. Aihi?". was speaking to yi>u about delays in ship-

V question ping. Just here I want to give you an ;doa. Tho st_ inship companies are iu)t all

mt. Why to blame, and a practical illustration is boi'er than ?.ny other way f(n' you to undor-

rt'n in thi.> stand how those things work. A certain geni!enia;i whom I know started out with

t there are a carload of apides last fall to come to Ottaw-i wit'i them, lie had a stove in the

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car, and when he got lo Broekvillo he was shunted off. He was out of wood anil
could not get any wood. The fellow evidently had not ever been very far iVoni
home, or something else. He was the owner of the carload of apples. They left
him there until his whole carload of apples became frozen, and he had the pleasure
of looking at it. He did not know how to get the wood. He did not know how to
keep the tire up, although it was easy for him to smash the heaii out of a barrel and
treat the men. Another man started out with a carload of apples, and 1 said to him
when he was starting out : "' W)uit are you going to do ? " He replied : " 1 am tilling
up these two baskets just for the men's account. I am not going to be stopped along
the read at all." Sure enough, he had a few baskets of apples with him. When he
got to Brockville he was shunted off. Some cars were going to 3Iontreal and hi^
ear was going to Coteau ai'ound to Ottawa. When lie was shunted off" he saiil :
•• (rentlemen, you ain't going to leave me hei'e : are you coi Mng in to eat some apples
with me ? "' They had a jolly time there eating ap]>les. ami his car was hitched on and
he came on, while the other fellow was left there. He got out of wood, when he got
on his coat and said: "Here men, come in and have some apples." In a few
minutes he said: "1 am out of wood,' and in a few moments more he had plenty
of wood thrown in. If you send a car of fruit it is shunted otf at Brockville, on its
way to Montreal, and it stands there four or five days for these fellows waiting to be
lipped. That is the result of my experience. Theie is no doubt that barrels have
suffered considerably after they get on boanl the ship, though I must confess that
all I have ever shipped went in perfect ordei', with the exception of some tlial were
twenty tlays on the Atlantic. They were all black and bad.

The President. — AVo have now listened to these two pajiers on the transport:i-
tion, selection and packing of fruit;;. The gentlemen have each noted in their own
\va\' important points for consideration. The most imi>( rtant points that we have
to take up, 1 think, in connection with them, are those which concern the railroad
and steamship companies, and so we have representatives of these i'Ompanies here
who are prepared, no doubt, to give us their views on the matter. 1 hope that we
may arrive at some satisfactur}- result. In discussing those pajters I will ask you
to bear in mintl that it is our object this evening to arrive at some mutual undei--
standing by which the ditiicultics presented to you nuiy be ovei'come, and that the
transport of fruit may be facilitaleil. and that the large foreign market which is
now o]»en to us, but of which we cannot avail ourselves at pie.sent, may be rendered
valuable. I will, therefore. at;k you to consider the jtoints raised in tlie.se pajiers.
and I trust those repi'csentatives ot' the transportation companies who are here will
favour us with their views on the matter.

Mr. Watt. — Mr. Chairman and gentlemen — I have never bad occasion to attend
so huge a convention as this, but I have been at conventions of the kind, in whicli
the steamship people were made butts more or less ; but theie is one thing — nothing
like show. A short time ago 1 was amongst some flour gentlemen, and thei'c was
nothing wanted but Hour. The cattle men :n Montreal Just now are having con-
siderable discussion. In fact, there is nothing to trans]iort aci\)ss the Atlantic but
cattle anil cheese. Mr. Allan olijects to semling fruit with cattle. 1 have beard
men object to sending their Hour with fruit, cheese or other commodities. Ivicli
gentleman thinks his commodities are all that we have or should have. The ship
is the final deliverer, so to speak. She has to stand tlu' troiible of all previous
carriers who have carried the commodities to port by rail. The goods are carried
partly b}- rail and partly b}- steamship, and the steamshiji happens to be the last
one. and she gi nerally gets the kicks. That is her experi-'uce on that sco:e. There
is nothing whiidi we cany as carriers which is more perishable than fruit. There
is nothing more likely to suff'er in course of transit. The ditiiculty we have is its
short-lived character. The steamship people have, as a matter of course, to estab-
lish the steamship service. We begin at the beginning of the season and carry on
business weekly or fortnightly the year through. You gentlemen are not I'cady to
give us anything in May, June, ."luly or Augu-.t. You have nothing to give us in
September; but in October and November you expect the whole steamshij) .service

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wood aiul jjt liiontreal to be placed in the service of fruit. This is a very difficult thing to do

y far tioni — .j very difficult thini;-, from the steamship point of view. Last year. ISS'.i, 1 thiidc

They left -^ve shippe<l «.nly UO.o'dO or 150.000 bariels of fruit out of Montreal, while the pie-
he pleasure vious year we shipped 2(iO,000 barre.s,
ow how to Mr. Ai.L.vx.— The rest went by New York.

, barrel and Mr. Watt. — Not at all. Tt was not in the country' to ship ; you had not the

said to him li-nit to ship this season — that is perfectly Avell known. The Xew York shipments

1 am tilling- m-e preeiselj' to the same effect. 1 only give these facts to show that the steamship

)pped along people have to take a wider view than the fruit people, the cheese ])eoplc or the

When he riour people. They have to formulate their rates to all classes of traffic, and they

eal and his have to assimilate their space to all classes of traffic, and do their best with this

>rt be said : multiplicit}- of business that comes to accommodate the freight. In the autumn it

iome apples ig especially ditHcult. The freight, so far as material is concerned, is contined to two

shed on and montlis, tluring the time during which the harvest crop moves, and the dealers in

vhen he got every special expect just the same service as the freight which has been giving the

In a tew service during the whole season; so wo have to cut down our best customers, in a

hail plenty certain sen>e and ilisappoint and shove them out in order to make a service for that

ville, on its two months' business. Wo want to encourage all the business we can in the St.

aiting to be Lawrence of this varied character, because if one class of business fails another will

larrels have keep up. We want to assimilate the fruit, just as cheese, tlouror other products of

confess that the country. I do not think I need answer the complaints made by Mr, Allan, as

le that were they are matters of detail that can be discussed bj^ the parties, I believe it is true

that the railway eompanies j)refer giving bills of lading at shippers' risk ; but we

transport:!- receive fruit on the steamships just the same as other things. We count the pack-

n their own ages and give receipts by the package. So far as the steamship companies are

hat we have concerned. I think I may say we will do our best lo serve the interest of fruit

the railroad growers.

ipanies here Mr. JiucKK. — What is the ditference between the freight on a barrel of Hour and

ope that we a barrel of apples ? — A. I do not think we have carried flour in bariels for tive or

will ask you six years ; but the prices in October would be about the same. You might suppose

Ltual under- that the apples would l)e cheaper, but they occupy the same space. I think we

md that the would i-arry it no cheaper. I do not think we would ask any less, unless there were

ket which is a great many barrels of apples and no flour. Broadly speaking, 1 should .sa}' the

be reiidereil freight was the same.

hese pajiers. ^^j;,. Touhaxce.— Mr. Allan— I believe that is his name, although 1 have ii(,t

ii*e here will the ]>leasure of bis acquaintance — has made some statements which 1 call in
question, lie says he visited Montreal, I suppose in the interests of the Fruit

ion to attend Growers' Association, and hail gone on board a steamer of one of the lines. That

id. in which was all right. lie did not call on me. I had not the ])leasure of a visit from him,

ig — nothing As the representative of the Dominion Line, 1 should have been only too glad to

id there wa- have gone on board one of our shijis and shown him the accommodation; but he

having con- evidently did not think it worth his while. 1 leave it for this meeting to say if his

Atlantic but business was in the general interest, and it he did the right thing in thus acting. He

have heanl made some strong statements about the shijiment of fruit. Di(l he ever ship a barrel

ities. I'lach of applet ? The bills for a great many thvusand barrels of apples have passed

?. The ship throiigli my hands, and I have never seen his name, Hoes he ship any ?

ill previous- Mr, McD. At.i.an — 1 think the fruit growers of Ontario will answer that,

s are carried Mr. Woolkuton — lie is one of our largest ship])ers.

i be the last Mr. Touuanci-; — That is news to me. He made a statement about the damage

:;():e. There from boilers. Was ho ever on board a vessel, and has he ever seen where the

riiit. There boilers are? 1 think if he had taken the pains to look into that question he would

e have is its have seen that the chance of damage from that is very slight indeed. Then he made

se. to eslab- another statement about the place where cattle are kept, and the chance of damage

in<l carry on there was from smell. Well, I simply w'ant to say. as far as regards the Dominion

not ready to Line, we never make a practice of ])Utling apples wiiere we put cattle. Then about

:o give us in the handling of ai)ples in Montreal, he gave the impression that they were handled

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same by them all. The fruit i;« Jelivered by the railway to tlie steamshij:) companies
in the usual way, and each company handles apples aliUe. Then he made another
statement of the very great number of claims. Now. I may say, as far as 1 am con-
cerned that the claims we iret are veiy small indeed. I do not think this year a
claim has come for ten barrels, as regards <iuantilies. Then there is another state-
ment 1 would like to make. The receivei-s of api>les on the other side have
fiequently ?nade the statement to the J)ominion Lino tiiat no steamers ai-riving
in Liverpool deliver their triiit in better condition. The fact is, that this winter
from Portland, thousands of barrels per week were going forward by tiiis line in
preterenee to any other. Mr. Watt has nunle a statement that the steamship com-
panies were only too anxious to do evcrthing in their power to facilitate business,
and make it as pleasant as possible tor shippers. 1 can only say the ssnue tldng.

Mr. McI). Allan. — I am called upon to reply to these remarks. The lirst remark
was that he wislied to know the reason 1 did not visit the Dominion Line. I was not
invited. I was invited to visit the other lines, lie says 1 made a statement that
apples were placed where the cattle were. I made no snch statement. I do not
profess to know exactly the names of the various compartments of the vessel : Init I
nevei' presumed that apples were put in preciselj' the same compartment with cattle.

Mr. TouR.vxtE. — 1 did not mean that.

Mr. Allan. — They ai-e placed in the same vessel, and what we are if raid of, and
according to our rei>orts. is that the apples are damageil in flavour. AVe get these
reports from the other sidt'. We get them, we think, fiom reliable sources, and a
simple denial is not sufficient. We get these reports and we infer that there must
be some way of the stench from these cattle reaching the fruit. I do not know
whether the compartment is close enough or not. There must be some way of clos-
ing it, so that this stench will not reach the fruit. If there is any crevice and the
smell reaches the fruit. I can assure you that it will damage it. I merely throw
that out. There is no insult otfered. and I think it was unmanly to get up and make
the statements we have just heard, to trj- and creep out of this matter in the way
endeavoui'ed. We put the thing fair and square, in the hojie that these gentlemen who
are here representing the steamship companies will see that no crevices are left open
b\- which the stench from the cattle could possibly reach and damage the fruit. It
is of no consequence whether I know where the boilers are or not. We have the
reports that the fruit is heated on arrival, and that the heat has come from the boil-
ers. Whether the fruit has been packed exactly up to the boilers or not 1 do not
know : but I presume it must have been sutiicieutl}' near to do a certain amount of
damage. The fruit has certainly been damaged by heating. It is possible it maybe
in some other i)art of the vessel, where it is surrounded by other things, but at all
events we know it has been heated. If some .system of introducing the atmospheric
blast, that has been s|)oken of. were adopted in that part of the vessel, it might remedy
that. If it is cheap, it is a good thing in anj' case. It would satisfy the fruit grow-
ers and sh'ppers. It would he a boon to us. It would help to carry the fruit in
jiroper shape. Tiiere was another point that occurred to me, while one of the gentle-
man was speaking, that there must be considerable damage to the apples from jiiling
them tier on tier in the hold. We have heard that complaint frequently. I intended
to suggest that the steamship ownei*s iihould look into that, and see if there is not
some simple remedy; by relieving the j)ressure by means of cross bars — something
that woidd bear up the pressure from the barrels beneath. We have had leports
that the apples in the lower tiers could only be sold as '• wets."

Mr. ToiuiANCE. — As far as regards the placing of cattle, they are ]>laced on a
different deck from the apples. It is water tight and must be tight, and it is utterly
impossible foi- the effluvia to get down.

yiv. Allan.— There is no doubt but that the damairo is there.

The f'UF.siDENT. — The object is to present these facts to the shippers, in order
that we may have an impaitial discussi(U), so as to endeavour to arrive at some means
of meetir ' the difficulty. I trust that no statement will be made to reflect on any
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Mr. TiKiMs. — When you were i^ood enoiif^Ii to invite the representative of tiie
Beaver Lino to l»o present we felt it was a gooil opp(.rtiinity to meet the fruit
1,'rowers of the Dominion, and \ am hero (o-night. Mr. Watts seeins to have covered
the steamship ground pretty thoroughly, and before going into anything further in
that direction I desire to thank .^[r. Allan for the kindly way he spoke of the lieaver
Line, r have no hones to jtick with him ; anywa}*, not just now. It hail hcen
mentioned hetori' (hat the handling of fruit at Montreal did not compare favourably
with Xew York. \ow. I have had considorablo expeiienco in New York as a
steamship man, and I have no hesitation in sa3'ing that I consider the hamlling of
tViiit in Montreal is equal if not better than at any other port along the Atlantic
i-oast. I think every care is given to it. J am satistied that steamship men are
iiidy too glad to bring ail the fruit by way of ^Montreal and not allow it to go to Xew
York. Thoy take special care in the handling. [ think my friend Mr. Allan felt, a
couple of years ago, that there was no place like New York, and ho ventilatetl his
ideas pretty freely. It was then I tirst took up the subject and introduced fans into
our boats. As regards claims, wo have not had a single claim for a]>|)Ios. The
([uostion was asked and that is the answer. Mr. Watt stated that apples were
received and a recoi])t given on the actual count of the packages. Tlie railway
eompanies put in " ship]ier's count." but we ])ay no attention to that wiien once they
reach us. You say that ventilated cars will be jtrovided, and I am satisfied that the
steamshij) companies from Montreal can carry the fruit forward in as good condition
as it can possibly be taken across the Atlantic. It has been suggested to me that I
should mention that the St. Lawrence route wouhl compare favorably from the fact
tliat we have several days after the steamer leaves ^lontreal before 3'ou are at sea,
whereas you are at sea in an hour or two after leaving Xew Y''ork and Boston.
With reference to apples, the rate being higher than on other cargoes, I think the
rate on apples, considering that they take the same space, is just as low and
just as cheap other cargoes. There is one point I would like to call the attention
of shippers to. They do not realize the necessity of advising the steamship agent
when shipments are made. A man will ship five cars, and the tirst intimation that
the steamship company has is that there are so many barrels of apples for us at the
Canadiar. Pacific or the (riand Trunk yards. They cannot expect that the fruit can
be attended to in a hurry unless they give us sf)me advice. If the steamship com-
panies hatl advice by wire or by postal cai'd that they had shipped the goods it
enables the steamship comjianies to trace these cars, and the railway companies are
only too anxious to assist us in getting these cars forward. Li many cases they
have gone to a great deal of trouble to got them forward in time for our steamers.
I have no doubt tho railway companies will do all they can to get these cars forward.
Wo have every desire to get them away, to keep up our reputation on the St.
Lawrence as against any other port. Regarding the statement of Mr. Allan about
the tiering of apples, I might say that apples are in no case stoweil in the lower
hold of the steamer. The decks are 6 ft. G in., T ft. 2 in., and I think the Lake
Ontario is 8 ft. 2 in. That is exceptionally high. It is not possible to got over four
tiei's in, and I don't think four tiers too much. They are never stowed in the lower
holds. You cannot possibly get more than four on the decks. I don't know that I
have anything more to say, but to thank tho fruit growers for having suggested to
the steamship people better modes of carrying forward their fruit. I am sure wo
will only be too glad to carry out their suggestions as far as we can. I thank you
tor tho opportunity of being present.

Mr. Allan. — I may mention one point. When the agitation was got xip some
years ago for shipping by New Y'ork, I believe there was quite a large amount
going by New Y^'ork. The Now Y'ork railways wore exceediiigl}- good to us, and
forwarded everything wilh a view to drawing traffic. Since then we have noticed
that the handling at Montreal has greatly imjiroved. That fact shows just what
agitation has done. We have done it by agitation. Wo want this agitation to bring
us some gain.

Mr. 5lcM[LLAN. — There is another thing which ought to receive attention here.
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that we tin not 1,^01 the same fuvourai>le rates as those localities which have com-
lietition receive. I ship a considerahU' (jiiantity to the sealioanl. After I ship my
freii^ht 1 uet back from the men who receive it the wnj'-hills. People to the north
and south of mo whei-o they have competition, pay 95 cents perharrel, while we pay
61.05. Tiiat is 10 cents a barrel ditVerence on a lot shipmont of barrels. Whenever
1 ship apples to Montreal 1 advised the steamship com])anies and my apples were
transported niore rapidly than if I had not <lone so. 1 ship all my apples by the
Donaldson line, and I made an arraiii^ement that the apples were to lie shipped in
the front or the rear of the vessel. I am perfectly aware that the apples packed in
the centre of the vessel, unless on the u]i])er deck, will sjioil. I have crossed with
fruit and with cattle, and I am satisfied that unless apples are away from the boiler
3'ou cannot adopt any means to have them ])erfectly safe. Ail the apples I shipped
ari-ived in perfect ordei', and if all those who slii]) a])ples will adopt the system of
notifying the steamship companies their apples will be forwanlod without being
kept by the railways. I think the localities which have no competition should have
the same means of getting as cheap rates as those which have competition.

^[r. Gedd. re])resenting^the Donaldson, Temperley i^ Thomson Lines, said : This
is the first time that I have liarl the pleasure of addressing a meetingof this kind. I
was much pleased at hearing the last speaker mention one of the lines I rejn'esent in
>iich a favourable way. As regards the rates which he spoke about, L may say that
ocean rates from Montreal during the whole of the fall of the year are fi.xed weekh*
by the agents of the several lines meetingtogether, and this rate, in the case of apples,
was made early last September, 1 think it was at a minimum i-a(e of 35 cents. This
M-as maintained during the whole season, notwithstanding that the rates on other
cargoes pointed to an increase. We recognizeil the fact, amongst the whole of us. that
to try and increase the shipment of apples to the old country it was necessary that
we should have a regular rate. 1 can assure the gentlemen present that the rate
from Montreal to the other- side is the same for all shippers. There is no discrimina-
tion between any of the lines, as far as I know. There is a ]>oint or two that has been
brought u]) by tlie discussion this evening, and T may mention the packing. Last fall
we had a number of bariels ot apples come to Montreal. and they were mostly chime
hoops, and it is not possible for either the railways or the steamship companies to do
justice to the shippers in these. They should see that the bai-rels are properly
headed and the heads sufficientlystrongthat they won't break, because I have known
a number where it was impossible to handle such barrels without knocking out the
heads. The handling in Montreal is the same by all lines. We all take equally great
care to see them properly handled while in our custody and to see that tliev are
properly handled by our separate stevedores. There has been something said regard-
ing ventilation on board steamers. This has been an important factor,"an(l we have
considered it as fully as the Beaver Line, as has been stated by Mi-. Allan. They ]iro-
viiled for vcntiLition in the lower hokls, by which not only flour but butter and cheese
ai-e kept as cool as it is possible with the outside air. I don't say we keep ice chambers.
Init we do try to keep the holds of the vessels as pure as the outside air. Eegarding
the shipment of cattle, they have an impression that cattle and the cargo alw?-rs go

together. Only a few ships out of the port of Montreal do not carry cattle. Otthosteame'i-s
sailing out of the port of Montreal the only ones thai don't carry cattle are the mail
boats. The other boats all carry cattle, and we make it a point to keep the cai-ii'oes
separate from the cattle. Invariabiv the steamer going out has cattle on one or two
decks, and the cai-go is placed below, as Mr. Tlioms tried to explain to you, the oar-
loolr deck. It is perfectly water-tight and air-tight,'and no etliuvia nor any of the
dun- from between decks can reach the apples. With regard to the complaint about
delays with the railway companies, the shipper, in notifying the railway company,
should take care to have the numbers and the initialsofthe cars, giving us the route
by which they are shipped. If the shippers do this they will find that the agents at
3Iontreal are always ready to see that their freight receives proper dispatch. Jiut
this very important item is vei-y often left undone. Sometimes it requires repeated
telegrams to tell the initials of the corporation owning the cars, so that we cf.n trace

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tlie /8 and see tluit they do arrive in Montreal in good time tor the steamers. It
has already been mentioned that we guarantee the count, and if there is any short-
age we pay it.

Mr. Allan; — Would your agents throughout the country, at the dilVerent points
(iM the hills of lading taking the goods by rail to Montreal ?

^[i-. Gedd. — All the railway- companies, as far as 1 know, will grant you guaian-
leed bills of lading, ])i-ovided you load your cars at such a station where tlH>y have
;i tally on your bar-rels. We get the repeat l)ills of lading guaranteed, and the
steamship company checks the goods with the bills. Sometimes, as I understand
it, these apples are shipped at out of the way stations, on the siding, and they are
^im))ly loaded into the cai'8 at the shipper's direction and sent two. three oi-'four
hundred miles, and may come on the bill of lading '• shi])pers count." I think, Mr.
Chairman, these are all the points necessary for me to bring np. We shall in everv
way try and foi'ward the interests of the fruit growers and shippei's of Canada, and
anything you want done we will only be too happy to try and do it. as far as jtrac-
ti cable.

Mr. IIUKSTON, of the (,'anailian Pacific Railwa}-. — I cannot state what our com-
pany can do further than what they have done in the past, if there is any sugges-
tion that any of the gentlemen wish to make that the}- thiidc Avill facilitate the
shipping of fruit we shall oidy be too glad to adopt it. as far as it is practicable
to(lo so. There have been a good many points raised by Mr. Allan. One was that
there was a shortage of cars. That is a matter which theoretically looks very easy;
but when you come to a jiractical solution it is sometimes a little ditHcult to meet
the reqnii-ements of all the localities. We have car distributors at ditl'crent points
along the i-oad, and as this is perishable freight we give it the preference over other
freight. In regard to the question of granting bills of lading at shipper's count, I
do not know that there is any objection to giving a clear receipt in any case, whei-e
it is practicable to count the shipment of ap])les. There may be some exceptions
where apples are shipped from sidings where it is not practicable for our men or
agents to count them ; liut in no case where it is practicable for them to be counted
is there any objection to giving a clear receipt. 1 have listened with a great deal of
intei'est to the remarks of Mr. Allan with regard to the transportation of fruit, and I
shall take pleasure in placing the views expressed b}' him before our manager. 1
have no doubt that, as far as it is pi'acticable, evcr^-thing will be done to facilitate the
sbipm.ont of this important freight. I do not know that there is anything further
that I can state, but I shall be pleased to answer any questions that may lie asked
me witli i-egard to fi-eight,

The Prks[1>ent. — We interviewed the Canadian Express Company with reference
to such transportation of fruit as they are in the babit of dealing with, and I have a
letter here from the President touching npon that point. It may be of some inter-
est in this connection, although the whole volume of freight which they carry is com-
jtaratively small. The letter is as follows: —

"Montreal, ITth Februaiy, ISOO.

Prof. Peniiallow, McGill College, Monti-eal.

■' 3Iv Dear Sir. — I undci'stand there is soon to be a meeting at Ottawa of those
directly intei'ested in horticulture and fruit growing, the ditl'erent })ai'ts of the
J>ominion to be represented. I am glad to know this, as itcan scarcely fail to increase
the interest in this important industiy. For numy years I have felt nnich interest
in our local association for the Province of (Quebec, and have done what I could in my
small w^ay to encourage it, and T feel sure that anything to awaken the interest of
the general public will be in the right direction. I believe that the finest fruit can
be grown at a profit in many parts of the Dominion. 1 am not aware what jiarti-
cular points will be discussed, but presume the growth of the different kinds of fruit,
the mode of packing, the transportation antl the markets will be considered. These
seem to me important.

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"As for niysi'lf, \ do not feel oonipi-tcnt to d.'al with tliis. except pei-haps to say
a won! on transportation for such as may hesont Iiyt-xpress. The Canadian JOxpi-oss
Company, which I have represented for many years, liavc done much to facilitate the
quick and safe despatcli of tlie smaUor and iiiorc jierisliaiile fruits, furnisliini,' venti-
lated cars with proper slielvini,' for paclvini;- the lar.<,'or shipments to most distant
points, all fruit heiiii!: forwarded on fast express trains at lates consistent with cost,
and we shall continue to do so, and will he ulad at anytime to meet authorized repre-
sentatives in the trade for conference as to future transactions. The whole amount
cariiod liv exjiress. however, as compaied with other modes of transportation, is very
small, and mav not claim the attention of the meetiuif; hut should shipinents tor
Europe l>e sent via the Si. Lawience, we will he glad to otler the hest facilities from
inland to shipping point, in (juantities consistent with our mode of forwarding.

•' Hoping you will have a successful meeting,

•• I remain, yours very trul\',

••(l."ciIKXKY,

'• President."

ThePREsiDENT. — I think we have heard pretty fully the views of the transportation
companies concerning wliat facilities they offer, but it seems to me tliat it would hede.sir-
able if we could reach some definite conclusion with reference to the improvement of
existing methods, so far as that may be possible. Undoubtedly, as far as we can
judge from the evidence that reaches us from ahi-oad, some improvement may be
made at least, and if such can be made within reasonable bounds it seems to me one
important object of this meeting will be accomplished. I should like to hear from
some of the representative shippers, both of fruit and dairy produce, what they
would suggest in connection with what has been said, and then we may possibly
get from the i-eprescntaves of the transportation companies some statements as
to future movements.

Mr. McD. Allan. — In speaking of the express companies, that is one of the
points we had not touched upon before at this meeting ; but it is a point which has
been touched upon at other meetings. It is an impoi'tant point. I do not know
any other way by which you can get your l)asketed fi-uit, or fruit in boxes, more
completely smashed up than by sending by express. They do it most beautifully.
I remember at the time of the Indian and Colonial Exhibition, the Dominion Gov-
ernment had their fruit all over the various Provinces, and dispatched to the sea-
board by express, thinking, in the innocence of their hearts, that because the express
companies charged a high rate they would take better care of the goods. What
was the result? We did eveiything in our power to induce them to take care
of the goods. The packages were labelled "To be handled with care;" " This side
up." They were packages that had been specially prepared for easy and safe hand-
ling. We appealed to them personally and by letter, as Canadians, as men
interested in the welfare of this >' nintry, to do what they could to place the
products of this country before the world at the Indian and Colonial Exhibition in
good shape. Ihe result was, that out of two tons of grapes that might have been
handled easily, and would have arriveil there if handlbd properly in very good oi'der,
we had a mass of pulp and juice. The baskets were turned and twisted, and any side
up or any end up. We saw that ourselves. We saw the agents handling them. I
saw them at Goderich handling these goods, and called their attention to the fact
that they were handling them as if they were stones, flinging them about in any
sort of rough way. Our experience with express companies has been terrible. Our
experience at that exhibition, in regard to the handling of the fruit, was most dis-
couraging. We find the same experience has been met with by some of the shippers
of small fruits. Parties sending packages of peaches or peai's, how often do we get
them as they were sent? IIow often as full as they were sent? This last summer
I got three or four baskets of peaches, as we had no peaches or very little fruit of
any sort in our section. The baskets were full of good fruit when they left, but
when they reached me the gauze Avas torn off and quite a number of the peaches

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that way bnt we do mit*8 packages in the count. As some of the gentlemen htivi sug-
gested, if the steainshij) companies will give the count, and if the agents of tho rail-
way compaiiieH at the stations will take these goods and give us bills of ladinu- on
that count it will he all right. You cannot got tlie ruihray agent or aiiv of his men
to give the count; tliey won't do it. The^ have done it on rare occasions, uuder
pressure ; hut as a rule they won't give you tlie count.

Mr. J. T. McBrfde, of .Sloutreal. — [ have made money out of apples, and I can
make jnore. I thiiUv, ])erhaps, we are u little too hard on the steamshii) com})anies
and the express comiiaiuos. I have shipped fruit to Liverpool and other p(n'ts. and
have never asked a favour of a steamship or an express company that 1 did no, not.
Last year [ had $48, 0(H) worth of the finest Calilbrrua fruit. My claims tor the year
were 870. This year J ship]»ed to Liverpool, and my claims were only §10. They paid
it at once. ]f they knew what we wanted, I think they would give it to us. I'or
several years the California triut coming down to Montreal was hadly handled, i-'or
years it was l.iadly handled in the west, and they ran a special car. They cannot always
get good men. I cannot get good men in my warehouse ; I make rules, and every day
they are broken, i cannot get good men to pack my apples, although F pay them
all they ask. Over 2,000 barrels of apples got to Liverpool rubbish. 1 have orders
front the biggest house in Britain for apples, and they say : '' If you cannot ship by
Monti'cal, don't ship me any apples," They won't have them from New York. I
have had thousands of barrels of ap])les arrive in Xew York, and I never had them
handled as well as in Montreal. I think the steamship companies can keep the bar-
rels where there is no heat. Tliey cannot afford to give tis the cattle decks, because
the cattle pay tar better. I have worked in the siiips all night and all day, and
wliere they knew what we want they have always given it.

Mr. Starr.— I have been very much interested in the discussion so far. I will
not detain yon with any remarks at any length. While I agi-ee in tlie main with the
first two speakers, thei'e are some of theii' views to which I take decided objection.
In view of the fact that so man}' steamship I'epi'esentjitives have been heai-d to-night,
])Ossibly I might not have tho stime opportunity of meeting them again. I woidd like
to ask one or two questions which possibly they can answer. One is with reference
to the bills of lading. I have observed that the bills of lading contain a clause that
a charge of Is. (Jd. per ton was made on all fruits of a cei'tain class — that bears upon
apples — for discharging at the ilocks in London. I would like to ask if this is custom-
ary with you in Montreal. Another (question I would like to ask is with reference
to a clause which I tind in the bills of lading used by tho steamship companies, that
the freight is pjiyable ship lost or not lost. This is the usmil clause. If this is tho
case is it fair j)lay to the shippers to i'^sert such a clause in any bills of lading ?
Reference has been made to the dilHculties and dtdays in the handling at ports, and
so on. I may say that that don't apply to many cases in Nova Scotia. \Ye have more
fault to tind'with tlie steamship companies or their agents on the other side than
we have with our agents in Xova Scotia, in the handling of fruit. We can ship
our fruit in Xova Scotia and in four or five hours they have it in the boat.
In cold weathei- we usually accompany the fruit and look after it. We have
no fault to tind with the handling of the fiuit going into (be boats, but we
have :i decided objection to the way the fruit is hantlled when it is being taken out
of the boats. Take, for instance, a shipment of 3,800 barrels a short time ago, at
Loudon ; there were 130 barrels broken open. This, it appears, was done in the
dischai'ge of the cargf), in the hurry. They handle them from six to ten at a time,
and hoist them by steam winches. Coming up through the hatchways, if they catch
anything the}- break otf the hoops, the heads come otf, and the apples are scattered
to the four winds of heaven. Tf a claim is put in the steamship company claims
that it is not responsible. I instructed my agents in London to enter suit against a
steamship company at a cost of 8300. A short time ago an opinion of the best
counsel in London was taken upon the matter. I have the written opinion of
Abcrley Muir, the celebrated counsel in London, as to the case in hand, that in view

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of the bills of lading which were presented and the claims made, that ho could not
advise us, undof an}' circumstances, to jtrosocutc, as we had not a leg to stand upon —
that, so long as we accepted these bills of lading we should have to hear the loss.
There are times when we can put up with a loss of this kind. When fruit is bringing
high prices, we don't mind if we lose a few dollars, but when fruit is com])aratively
low it is a serious matter, and if it is a matter that agitation will do anything to help
I should say continue the dehate, and let us have a remedy if it is possible. There
are many othei' points in the addresses that wei-e made whi(di I should like to
discuss, and possibly 1 may have an opportunity at a future session; but I shall not
take up any more time to-night. I hope to hear a reply from some person present
as to the question I have asked with reference to bills oi" lading.

Mr. W.VTT. — I am quite free to confess I can throw very little light on the ques-
tion asked. The ship has no rights at London. She goes into ])ort and is fastened
up alongside the wharf. The dock ccmipanies discharge her ami put the goods into
their own storehouses and deliver to the consignees. They charge the ship so niuch
and the ship])ers so much ; i)ut we are perfectly powerless. The clause referred to
is put in at the instance of the receivers thoie. We can <1() business fairly well at
Liverpool, but at London we can only do business as the Londoners choose to do
it. If ships will consign to London they will be continiuilly under these disabilities.
As to the payment of freight whether the ship is lost or not lost, that a])plies to
freight prepaid. If 3'ou ]»ie])ay your freight, thcii the losses i-est with the shipper.

Mr. Htakk. — We are not in the habit of |)repaying our freight.

Mr, Watt. — Then the clause is inoperative.

Mr. Stahh. — I would gather from these remarks that Mr. Watt wi.shes to in-
timate thao better facilities arc offered at Liverpool than London. That has not
been our experience, either in marketing or shijtping. I am not here to stand up
for any port oi- house ; still, I am free to state that 1 have represented respectable
houses in London, and my experience has not been, as it has been hinted, that if we
are ^ending fruit to Covent Garden Market we will have to pay dear for our whistle.

Mr. trKOD.— There is just one question asked by Mr. Allan that [ would like to
reply to: that is, as to shipping apples to Montreal and getting a clear receipt. If
Mr. Allan will take out a local shipping rate and send it to any one of the steamship
companies, we. on receipt of it. will always be hr.ppy to give the shipper a clear bill
of lading for what we receive. Then we guarantee quantities.

The PuKsiDENT.— Have any of the sliippers of dairy produce anything to say?

Mr. Erodie.— The lough handling the fruit gets "in Montreal is between the
railway station and the ship. I have seen apples carted along in trucks at a rate
that would shake the ai)ples to pieces. My opinion is that there is no better way
of carrying apples thtm in spring waggons. When these carts are loaded, these
barrels roll otf sometimes, and they generally have a coopei- thereto fix them up.

General Lairie. — I shall not have an opportunity of speaking again, and T
must ask you to ]iar<lon me if I say a few words now. I have spent'a considerable
time in England during the lust winter, and in pa.s.Mng around constantly among the
green grocers 1 diil not see as nuiny good-looking ap'|)les anywhere as I have' seen
here to-night. 1 do not say this to butter up the fruit gro'wers, but to warn them
that they are not taking the means to get their apples to, London pi-operlv If it
pays to wrap up every orange in paper, which is afterwards sold for a htilt-penny
in London, it would pay to put an apple in pa))er and sell it for tour pence. To init
a piece of papei- at the top and bottom ot a barrel is not, however, enou.^h
The apples that are exhibted in London have been addressed to shipping companfes
and are not acceptable because of spots and bruises. That is the fault ot the
shippers. A more miserable lot of apples than those offered foi- sale in London I
have never seen. I grant you that they arc nearly all labelled " American Apples "
and It IS in your hands to see that all apples are delivered in London so that the
name of Canadian apples will rise. Have them properly marked. Nine out of ten
apples are bruised or spotte<l this year. I have been at the Army and Xavy co-oper-
ative stores, where a very large business is done, and also at the Civil Service

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The (juantity of American goodn there i.s'vorj' lar^jje. One of the gentlemen told nie,
picking up a spotted and hriiised apple, that that was as i^ood as tiiey could i,'et.
Why, if Canadian floods are as <,food as it is stated, cannot Canadians send tiiem
hoiuo in ilccent shape? I have taken the lihorty to speak of this, having hut
recently returned from England. I do not know enoui,di of apples lo speak of sorts;
but the vast majority of apples offered are sold as Newtown Pippins. There aie as

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1 repeat, if it pays to pack oranitos separately in paper and sell them' for a half-
penny, it would i)ay us to ,a;et ei^lit times that price by taking care that our apples
airive in good shape.

The I'hesident. — It has impressed mo, as this discussion has progressed, that
one of the great ditflcul ties of gettingfruit to England pro])erly is that our packages
are too large. It strikes me. if the size of the j)ackages wore reduced by one-half,
and wore square in shape, it woukl pay us better.

Mr. SiiETiiERD. — My o.xperience has been very limited as compared with that of
the large shippers in Montreal. For throe years past I have Keen shipping fine
table apples of tho highest class, such as tho Eameuse and Wealthy, which any
gentleman would care to have on his dinner table. I do not ship in ban-els. I class
my apples as Al, and these are put into cases. These cases are such as were produced
by the Cochrane Patent Case Company some years ago. I think it was patented,
Init I have manufactured boxes, not exactly like it, but which answer the purpose just
us well, and they are packed as eggs are packed, in the cases, with pieces of paste-
board, with twelve to sixteen dozen apples in a case. Last year 1 8nip])ed, I think,
sixty or seventy cases of Fameuse and Wealthy tliat brought 83 a case in Montreal.
I think it pays to take special care in packing your fi-uit. Wo took tho precaution
in some cases of wrapping each apple in tissue paper, and the reports I have
received of the condition in which tho fruit arrived in England are very favourable.
J received a letter a little while ago fiom a gentleman, stating that the fruit would
be worth in Covent (rarden, London, from three to six shillings a dozen. I shipped
on tho order of the Montreal agent, and he shipped to bis agent in London, who
sent back an answer to the agent in Montreal, and I saw the letter, in which the
London agent stated that that fruit would bo six shillings a dozen in Covent Garden.

Mv. Am-a\. — 1 believe tho question of the package is an important one. I
think a two-bushel barrel would be large enough, and I think a one-bushel barrel
would pay bettor still. If our law, instead of requiring a thx'eo-bushel barrel, would
require a two-bushel barrel, or part of it, we would be in a better position for
shipping. The neater the package the bettor. A square package is not so good, in
my opinion, as the barrel package — that is, if you are going to fill it and make it
tight, and with a closed top. I would not approve of a l)Ox package.

Mr. SitEi'iiKRi). — Of course, in a compartment case there is no possible chance
of the fruit being disturbed at all. It is just like an egtx ease. There is no possible
chance of tho fruit being moved about. Of course, it would not pay to pack these
cases, except with tho highest quality of frtiit, and mark the case A No. 1.

Mr. Starr. — There is a difficulty of crushing in these pasteboard boxes.
During the summer of ISSO there were some apples sent to the Colonial Exhibition
packed in these boxes, anil the result was very unsatisfactory indoi'd. We found
entire boxes in which the fruit had decayed, and the box was weakened and the
fruit was crushed together. Have you found much difficulty?

Mr. SuKi'iiERn. — I cannot say I have experienced anything of that kind. AVe
were pai-ticular in seeing that the case was secure, and that the apples just fitted in.
You must be careful that the apples fit the sqliaies, and they must be just of tho
exact size to fit the squares. That is why much time is taken up filling the cases.
If it were not for that ^'ou could fill the cases much quicker. There is another
advantage in it, for the i-ea,son that the purchaser knows there are no small ones in
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is the same as the top layer. I have never oxporionceil the objection you mention
at all. I never luul any complaint made about shipments in cases, and 1 have
shipped apples for three or four years in cases.

Mr. Starh. — I would like to see the smaller packa.i^e. Wo in Xova Scotiu are
accustomed to tisinii; liarrels of the same sif-e as the coninioii fruit barrel. This is the
standard our law re([uires. We have used half bai-rels, half the other size, to a con-
siderable extent, but they are not reoeivoil with favour for some reason or other. Wo
have attempted to use tlio square cases. You cannot ])ack the boxes, and press theni
in and have them tight, and have them turn out iiii^ood condition. With half barrels
there is no diittculty of that kind, but a very limited number of half barrels will do in
London.

Prof. Bahxahd. — A very important matter is the barnds, T don't fancy that the
twenty-four gallon barrel is very much toolarne. J don't thiidv the tliffleulty arises
from that; but if you notice the law says that they shall be as nigh cylindrical as
possible. The barrels are always made of light material, and have no centre ho(»ps,
and sometimes accidents will occur while loading them on board thoship when some-
thing will give way and the barrel will roll down. If the barrel is made strong with
good hoops, so that the barrel always rolls on the hoops, there is very little reason
for damages from them. Jf they are ])acked five or six deep there is very little danger
of their tlatteniiig on account of the weight on the bottom ones. I contend that it i.s
our own fault if we allow coopers to make barrels with too largo a bilge. They
should be made as straight as possible, so straight that the barrel always rolls on the
lioops, and not on the staves. Then wo will hear little complaint ot bruiseil or slack
ap}iles in the barrel. We did not have many to ship this year, but we did shijjsome,
and I am proutl to say they arrived in perfect order. Wo selected the barrels. Wo
would not use a barrel with a big bilge, and we decided not to use a barrel at all which
had a large bilge after that. If the coopers don't wish to make them strong enough
we don't want them. Let them keep their barrels.

Rev. Canon Fuf-ton. — There are one or two points that have been omitted by
the gentleman who has spoken. One point is as to the non-keeping of the apple.
The apple on the tree, and when it is taken off, is a live, breathing thing. Our grand-
fathers UBe<l to put the apples in two-bushel barrels; but the greed of the consumers
insisted on three bushels, antl to have as large a bulge as po^isible. These apples are
very often packed on a warm day in the fall of the year. They are heated up by
the sun and then put in a hot car. From that time forward they are rapitUy matur-
ing, and by the time they are taken otl" the vessel they have begun to decay. I must
say of the Allan Line, that I have shipped as eai'ly asaiiy man in this i-oom, and Mr.
Smith, of that line, years ago took great ]>ains to see that there was cold storage. I
went to him two years ago and told him I was going to shij) as an experiment an
eai-ly apple, and wished to have a coo! place i)rovi(led. I shipped s(mie of the Duchess
apple, and they went home and wei-e re.eived in perfect order, and I was very well
satistietl with the i-eturn. There was oiie ])oint which Mr. Dempsey made about
clip])ing the top of the apple. Y-n-. !.; n see, however, Mr. President, and undei-stand
that the stem being plucked out it ;.liows the microbes to get in ami begin the work
of decay in the apple. If we conld sterilize the apple and pack them in medium size
packages there would be no trouble in taking theniiicross the ocean. I have used a
liackage— one of the tirst, I suppose, that was shipped— that held half a bushel. I
packed them first in oat hulls, but the apples being of fine quality the flavour was
att'ected. It requires a great deal of trouble— in fact, almost as much as Mr. Shei>
herd's package— to have them perfectly level and prevent brui.ses. It needs grent
cai-e to get them in all right. Across the jiond they say: " We much prefer to have
a barrel; '■ but I got very nearly as much for half a barrel as they would have given
me for a barrel. I am satisfied that all this diflSculty would not occur if proper care
were taken in putting the apple into the barrel. There is one other point 1 wish to
speak of, although not personally interested, and that is the shipment of butter. I
must say that when I was at the Paris Exhibition I got one of the creamery men to
send me over twelve packages, and out of the twelve there were three that were

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hrokon. I fed porfW-tly Kutisficd that unless you rrot an air-tij^ht jtackaj^e and one
lliat is sceui'o it will bo a i^n-at dolriinont to tho comimniity. I liave lieeii appoiiittMl
lately as Protestant chaplain at (he peniti'ntiary, and there is an inj^enious man
then' — one of my studisnts — whom 1 told I was cnminii- heri-, and askt-il him to st-f if
he eould not invent snnio sort ol ])a( kaice that would dn tor butter. I have here two
boxes (hat it woul<l bo wt)rth while for any shipper (o look at. They eould bo made
of maple or some othei- suitable wood, and are perfeedy air-(ight. Tins box i> ma<le
without a single screw. He has made an estimate of the probable cost, and 1 do not
think it would escoed the cost of the ordinary packaj^e. It can be made in shooks
so as to tit. and if you cover the bu((cr witli a layer of paratline jtaper il will be per-
fectly aii'-ti^jht. If we hud as ifood a jtackago as (hat for our a)»ples I am satistied
that it would be a ^reat blessing and benctit to the country.

Tho PiiKsrDEN'r. — Considering all the facts that have been brouifht foi-ward this
evenini;, it appears to mo we may reduce the reiiuirements of tho ship])er to the
followinj^ terms : Fiist, there should be special froiijht trains provided that will i^ive
rapid transit and leather du' cars trom various stations alongthe ro\ile, and when the
train roaches proper dimensi(»ns it will i^o stvaij^ht thrcniifh. In the next place, these
curs should be provided with butVers. in the next place, lower lates, and then moditi-
cations in the billsof lading. It strikes me these are all the points we can appreciate
and roacli a common unilerstanding aiiout. It also strikes me that it wouiil be quite
j)roper to have a committee, or any other body, apj)ointed to take this matter in
hand anil makesuch rr!)resenta(ions in the name of this convention to the tr.'insjtorta-
tion companies as may be necessary for the satisfaction of the shippers in these
respects. It is desirable that sf)metlunii' should come out of this discussion. We do
not want to leave it where it began. I take leave to move a committee on transporta-
tion, to report to-morrow. That committee will consist of Messrs. A. Mel). Allan,
n. ^Y. Shepherd, Jr., A. M. Smith ami C. \l II. Starr.

The Convention then adjourned uniil the (bllowiny morning.

TiiiRSDAY, 20th February.

Morning Session'.

The Convention assembled at 10 a.m.

The PiiKsinENT. — We have i-eceived since last session a letter from the frrand
Trunk Hallway Companj-, fr(jm the trattic manager, with reference to tho points
that were raised. 1 will ask the Secretary' to read that letter for the informatiitn
of the meeting, ami then, I think, we may refer it to the Committee on TranspoKa-
tion for action.

Tho Secretary read tho letter, as follows: —

"Grand Trlnk Kail way Company ok Canaka.
'' Traffic Manager's Office.

" Montreal, February, iTth, 1890.

"Dear Sir, — At a recent conference with Messrs. Penhallow and Shepherd,
reference was made to the meeting of fruit g'^owers proposed to be held at the City
Hall, Ottawa, on 10th inst., and two following days.

" You are no doubt aware that as regards the more delicate and perishable des-
criptions of fruit we are able, in connection with the Canadian Express Company, to
give as satisfactory despatch as practicable by passenger trains. To accommodate
the frait growers We have also organized fruit sjiecials, to commence running so
soon as the apple, &c., season sots in These specials can be increased in number as
the traffic requires and tho necessary ari-angements made to prevent delay in transit.
We purpose this year to continue and, if needs be, extend the system, and I hope
that the requirements of the case may thus bo satisfactorily met.

" There are considerations connected with the gathering and packing of fruit
affecting its condition on arrival at destimition with which the fruit growers can

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alone deal; but speaking for the Granil Trunk, I may assure you that any reasonable
transportatiur. requirements will be met by the company, and when the time arrives
i'vv resmiiinii; this yej, I's operations we shall be hapi)y to confer with representatives
of the a.s.-;ociation,*in view of meeting their wants, aild making Montreal the port for
fruit shipments.

"Yours trulv,

"L" J. SAR(JEANT,

" Traffic Manager.

" "W. W. DuNLOP, Secretary, City."

Mr. BucKE — In regard to shipping rates : We have heard a good deal about
shipping to the old country but there is one point that has not been touched upon,
and that is the shipping of fruits from Ontario to Manitoba. The Canadian Pacitic
Eaihvay rates are so high that the people cannot sliip fi'om Ontario to Manitoba, and
this is a question that should be ventilated by this meeting.

The President. — 1 think that is an important point, and 1 think the committee
will keep that fact in mind. I understand thoy are to have a s])ecial conference with
the transportation agenis and the agents of the other companies. This matter Avill
be discussed at that conference. Wo will refer that letter to the Committee on
Transportation.

Mr. L. WooLVERTON. — ^AVould it not be well to express some appreciation of the
kindne.ss expressed to us in that letter — our ap])reciation of the etforts nuule by
the Grand Trunk Railway Company in making ari-angements for this special train.
I move that a reply be maile by the secretary, oxjtressing our appreciation of the
eftbrts being made to accomodate the fruit shippers.

The Presipent. — That might properly come in with *he committee's report.

Mr. A. Mel). Allan. — Would it not be in order to move now to add to that Com-
mittee on Transportation ? Wo onlj^ have four members on that committee. I think
we should have more. Further, a desire has been expressed on the pait of the
steamship companies here to meet with that committee and discuss the whole sub-
ject. I think it would be pi-oper to ask the Chair to extend an invitation to all the
representatives of the railway, steamship and express companies to meet with us.
I think it is nothing but fair and right to all concerned that we siiould meet together
and discuss the whole matter befoi'e we frame our report for the general meeting. I
would suggest that the name of Mr. A. U. Pettit lie added to the committee, and I
suggest that some one else would mime other gentlemen who would be serviceable
from other districts.

Several other gontle'.nen were nitmed, and the fbllon'ing added to the committee:
Messrs. A. II. Pettit, W. L. Kew. A. G. Thorburn, Thomas Frankland.

The President.— -In view of Mr. Allan's suggestion, I will notify tue representa-
tives of the companies interested to meet with the coniinittee for a conference. I may
eay just here that in the very short space of time tliat was allowed us to interview
these various transpoi'tation companies before leaving Montreal there were one or two
of the express companies notin('luded,unfortunately, especially the Dominion Express
Company. Xow their representative is heie, ami I hope he will take tnisas a special
invitation to represent his company at this conference between the committee and the
transportation agents. Mr. Shepherd was on the committee — the interviewing com-
mittee— in Montreal.

Mr. A. McD. Allan. — Some of the representatives of the various carrying com-
panies, I understand, cannot make it convenient to be with us here tliis forenoon. We
want the committee to meet and discuss the ditt'erent points this forenoon. As it will
take some time, I suggest that we proceed with work on the report in the meantime,
and we can then meet the agents and go over the report. We would like to have the
conference with the committee before the report is finally presented to the conference.
(The suggestion was agreed to.)

Air. J. T. McKride, Montreal, read the following paper on " The Export op
Winter Apples — Profits and Drawbacks " :

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apples, allovy me, ae briefly as possible, to give you a few facts gained by fifteen
years' practical experience in British and foreignmarkets.

" The most profitable apples for export are : King's, Cranberry Pippins, Bald-
win's, Gravensteins, Bishop's Pippins, Ribston Pippins, and Golden Russets. Occasion-
ally Spies and Gieenings make money abroad, but, as a rule, they sell for more
money in Canada.

AH apples should be picked and culled with the greatest care. We are
advancing in the department \'early, but still there is room for improvement. The
n.ore care in this respect the better name will our fine Canadian apples giun, and
they are second to none, and the more profit will be obtainable for either local or
foreign buyers. Cease to purchase fruit that has been carelessly culled before being
packed. Many a buyei- has ordered his men away from an orchai-d where the grower
has carelessly picked his apples, and wisely so, for no packer can make first-cliss
shipping stock with such fruit.

Only No 1 standard sized barrels should ever be used. The}' ought to be
kept perfectly clean and when packed should be head-lined and distinctly branded.
A fancy package will command more money than one with which less care has been
taken. Jt is better to mark our apples No. 1 and No. 2; I mean, use a different
stencil. No. 1 should be strictly choice apples; No. 2 ought to be good, clean, sound
selected apples; the balance should be dried, evaporated or made into cider, for all
of which a market can be found.

All shipping apples must be carefully faced, well shaken and lightly packed.
A barrel that shows the least slackness on this side the Atlantic will make no money
for the shipper on the other side, where they often make "nd sell as slack, what
here would be considered tight and in firm order. Now, we have our fruit properly
gathered and packed, the question is, where had we better sell. Our advice would be
to sell to some one on this side of the water. When we require foreign fruit we are
compelled to buy. So, if Europe wants our grains and fruit we would saj'come aci'oss,
examine, bu}-, and we will ship and draw for t mount, allowing no claims whatever.
Tnke your risks, as wo arc eompelleil to do when we purchase oranges, lemons,
grapes, &c.

When consigning, our apples as u rule are shipped to Liverpool, London, Glas-
gow and Bristol. They generally go into a dealer's hands, who hands the hill of
lading to an auctioneer, by whom they are offered at first sale after being landed.
The auction system is all right in itself, but the charges are far too high. Six-
pence per barrel to the consignee, sixpence per barrel to the auctioneers, to which
they add cartage, dock and labour dues, postage, bill st imps, cables, &.Q., kc. which
together make anotlior sixpence. So it costs generally Is. (kl. to sell a barrel after
it Is landed, to which we would have to add ;5s. (ki. to 4s. Gd. per barrel freight. As a rule,
we have to pay more freight from Montreal than our neighbours have to do from New
York, Boston or Philadelphia. AVhy is this so '? Some of our worthy steamship friends
will no doubt explain, but we hope soon to see a .' ()d. freight from Montreal to
Liverpool.

Another drawback i:i liritain is the law, which allows a buyer to refuse any
number of barrels (out of any ]>urchiise in the sale room), which he call:- slack.
Almost any barrel can l)e made to give somewhat after the way they are piled on
their docks, two and three high, on their end- ; also, after a rainy dgljt or heavy
fog any barrel showing the slightost moisture is called damp and wet, and sells from
I's. to "lOs. per barrel less tiian dry tight barrels. The Canadians who have made
mone}' by consigning apples can be easily counted ; those who have lost money
by the same practice, their name is legion.

Our railway coiiii)anies have don^' '>nsiderable for us by sup[ilying hotter
cars, in groater"quantity. a.id graiUhij; ' irough bills of lading; but still greater
care could be taken ii- the loading ii.i 1 un!- iding. Theyshoukl not be unloaded until
the day the stermship company is re.'^.dy to 1 >ad, for frequently we have .'•een
thousands of l.trrels on our wharves, r.ome inside and often outside of the sheds, to be

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wet, pilfered and generally disfigured, isometimes frozen, which, of oor.r.se, means a
heavy loss to the shippers. Our sieaniship companies couki aloo assist shippers in
making profits by more careful handling and judicious stowing, munya thousand
barrels of apples have been ruined by being misplaced in a steamer. Wherever pos-
sible, the steamers should be ventilated, and apples should have the coolest and driest
compartment on the ship, because they reijuire it ; also, because they pay a fii*st-class
freight rate. We are not complaining of our steamers friends; they have improved
greatly during past few years, and are still willing to do all in their power to meet the
wants of our ever-growing trade ; but we demand better positions, better ventilation
ami lower rates, and I believe we will secure them. There is a British law against
American apples being shipped under Canadian marks and names, but last fall
thousands of barrels of Michigan apples were shipped and sold as Canadian apples.
This ought to be stopped, oome Maine apples, shipped this winter in the same
manner, were detained in Liverpool, and thereby a loss made. Xext season this
ought to be looked after and prevented. Let all Iruit be shipped and sold under
true colours. If so our apjiles will command more money.

Our friends in Nova Scotia have grand apples ami unsurpassed facilities for
shipping. We think if they used a more modern, better barrel their fine fruit would
bring still higher pi-ices. Their apples as a rule are shipped l)y local speculatoi-s and
growers to London and Boston to be sold on commission.

Regarding when to sell or sidp apples, we would recommend, after a sui -
cessful experience, sell as soon as apples are ready for shipment, or, if convenieiil,
ship as soon as packed, and regularly. The first to market of all fruit makes most
mone}', not the last. Then, if we wait until the close of navigation, and forward by
Portland or Boston, therL' is great danger of frost. It is almost impossible to ship
intwinter without doing some d^araage to the apples. A frosted or heated apple will
never make any money, either here or in other markets.

Mr. L. WooLVERTON (Grimsby). — I would like to ask Mr. McBride where the
change in the brand of apjtles was made ?

Mr. McBride. — Last year I brought in a great many apples from St. Louis and
Michigan, in bond, and shipped them through to Montreal. A great many of the
dealers, when the apples ai-rived at Montreal — between the unloading from tiie train
and loading or to the vesse! —would put on their own brands, and these apples were
shipped on Canadian steamers as Canadian apples. These apples were not as good
as ours, and when it got to be known over thei-e what had been done, it did us a
great deal of harm. The apples went to Edinburgh and sold as (Canadian apples, and
the sellers had to take them back, because they could not prove that they were
Canadian apples. I think that this is a practice which should be stopped, and could
be stopped. I am bound to say that seven-eighths of the Montreal men will not
stoop to this kind of thing.

Mr. R. W. Starr (Cornwallis, N.S.)— Did you handle any Xova Scotia apples
last year?

Mr. McBride.— I was in your part of the countfy last fall and tried to see you ;
I went there to place an order for 25,000 barre/s of your apples, but my order said
they must be put up in Canadian barrels, whic/j you could not get made in time.
Our people in Liverpool woulu not take your apjile.. i"n the Xova Scotia barrels. Your
barrels are good and strong, and will do very well, but they are not presentable.

Eev. Canon Fulton.— The most important thing that has come before this con-
vention, so far, is what Mr. McBride has just stated in leference to the propriety of
having some distinction made between the Canadian and the American apple. We
are troubled here by the importation, in the spring of the year, of the Missouri and
Tennessee apple, which are really not tit for human food. They have the same
names as our own apples; they are used as quotations, and are on ou- marl-et from
the beginning to the end of the season. Jf we are to have any credit for oui- api)les
as we have for our cheese, these importations of American apples, .vhi Ii are shipped
via the St. Lawrence route, should be branded by the officers cI' the Grnadian
Customs us they pass through.

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Mr. WooLVERTOX. — I think we should have a Committee on Legislation. As
these points come up this committee would be able to take them into consideration
and suggest to us the best method tor dealing with them. The sooner we have such
a committee appointed the better. I would move that such committee be appointed.

The Prksident. — Would you nominate such a committee, Mr. AVoolverton?
Think over some names, and we will then put the motion to the meeting later on,

Mr. BaoiJiE. — In connection with the packing of apples, I would suggest that all
the apples should be branded with the packers' names. Our millers have bi-andr: for
their special grades of flour, which is sold according to those brands, and why should
not our appic ])ackers have brar.ds established, so as to enable them to get up a
reputation for their apples?

Eev. Canon Fultox. — The only trouble with that would be that some of the
barrels would be re-packed with apples that did not come from the particular orchard.
The onl}- way to obviate such a difficulty would be to put a card at the bottom of
each barrel, inside the barrel.

Mr. A, McD. Allan — I have listened to Mr. McBride's paper with a good deal
of pleasure. The points he makes are most excellent. They are golden points,
which should be remembered bj' all. llis ;idvice regarding the package is good. In
my opinion we should be most particular about the package, and have it neat, tid}'
and clean, and presentable in the market. Such a ])ackage means money on the fruit.
The point he raises about the American apples passing through Canada and going
forward to Bi-itish ports as Canadian apples is one that we have had a good deal of
controversy on. It is a most important point indeed. I do not know whether there
are any of our American friends present, but we are always willing to meet them,
and we find them very fair in discussion on this point. We do claim, and I think
fairly and rightly, that we have, within the limits of this Dominion, in tne <litferent
sections of the country', taking all things into consideration, the finest apples in the
world. It is unfair to us, then, to allow American apples of infeiior quality to pass
through here and be re-branded at Montreal as Canadian apples and shipped to
England as such. I have known Canadian dealers who have pui-chased ap^tles in
Michigan, and these apples have gone forward as Canadian apples. This is a very
serious injury to this country. Perhaps no one hero would be able to explain scien-
tifically why it is that Michigan apples are not as good as ours, but the fact remains
all the same that they are not. They are ditferent in grain. The}' grow them beauti-
fully, they are fine-looking, probably to look at them they seem the best apple. They
j'.ppear barter and fine apples when picked, and in all external points may be eijual
<o and sometimes excel ours, but when it comes to quality ami flavour they are
;i\v.;y behind us. It is certainly time, as Mi'. Wooiverton states. *^hat this point of
fdse branding was looked into, and if a Legislative Committee could be formed we
might bring the matter to the notice of Parliament, so that it could be made law,
iiiri* i'-. passing through the Customs, or in some other way, these fruits could be
br; c.ded. so as not to go forwaril to British ports as anything else but what theyaie.
It ib no credit to us to have them known as Canadian apples; but, on the contrary, it
works us positive injury.

Mr. C, 1?, II. St.\kr, Socretar}' Xova Scotia Fruit Growers Association, — In this
connection I may say that we have reason to believe that Xova Scotia apples have been
shipped to New York and re-shipped fi'om there as American apples. That is putting
the boot on the other foot. But in regard to le-branding American t'ruit as Canadian
— if they wisli to lake credit for our apples as their own, to do us injury thereby, it
is not a very desirable state of afl'airs ; but I do not know that we can control this in
any way.

Mr, B. Staiiratt, Annapolis, N.S.-— ' was in London throe years ago, and I saw
there Nova Scotia Golden Kussets, shipped from Annapolis County to London in
barrels, re-packed and put into boxes in a fruit shop, and branded as French apples.
They have an apr>ie in France which closely resembles our Golden Eusset, Whether
it has the same points or not I do not know ; it is the same in shape, colour and
flavour, and it is apparently the same. These apples are shipped largely from France

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to Enii"land. They aiv put up in boxes. 50 apples in a box. The boxes are arranged
in two hiyers, the lower hu'er consisting of four rows, with 7 apples in a row,
making 2.S apples in the lower layer, and the upper layer is tho same. These apples
are exactly alike in shape, size, colour, and everything. You may pick up a dozen
apples and you could not tell one from another apart. Fifty-six apples just till up (he
box. Seven apples go into it lengthways, and I have seon our apples re-packed in
these boxes as French apples.

Mr. McHwAN. — In regard to the subject of branding barrels, I do not know
that we could decide upon any plan to prevent the re-branding of American apples.
I think that question should properly come under the consideration of the Committee
on Transportation. I think the committee consulting together and studying the
matter seriously would probably recommend some plan to overcome the difficult}-.
I merely make that as a suggestion, so that the Committee could take it into con-
sideration as one of their subjects.

Mr. Broi)[e. — Why should not we have an apple inspector, as well as a flour
inspector, in our shipping por<-'

Tho Presidkxt. — I may s., ' when the committee set about arranging for
the work of this convention, w>. that we ought to have some exitression of

opinion, not only from our own exj- tei-s, but firm some one who handled our apples
on the other side of the water. The Secretaiy was therefore instructed to com-
municate with some of the large importers in England to get their views and
opinions. As a i-esult of that, we have the opinion of a large firm of importers,
Messrs. Wood, Ormerod \ Co.. Edinburgh. The paper will be read by the secretarj'.

Mr. DuxLoi>, Secretary, then read tho following paper on

•'APPLES Foa EXPORT.

•'In what follows we aildress growers only, believing that there need be no
medium between them and the distrUiutor to the retail, trade.

•'We would urge on growers to select one or more reliabl: tirms (according to
the quantitj- of fruit exitorted) who are in contact with the retailors, and to st'nil
regularly to said firm, or tirms, all the season through. The ailvantages are, that
such consignments are not lett to the mercy of the auctioneer (sometimes competing
auctioneers), the market gluts are largely avoided, and, whore growers pack practi-
cally the same each consignment, the brund becomes known within circles where
(always supposing the fruit merits it) a demand for it, more or less steady, is created,
and a good standing price securi'd.

"The grower is also brought into immediate contact with the distributor of his
gooils, and is therefore sure to be ailvised of any defect therein, when a remedj- can
be applied and tho defect guarded against in future.

" We think there are tluve headings under which we may arrange the few
remarks wc have to offer, viz. : <^uality, Packing and Varieties. And here permit
us to remark that pressure on our lime forbids any elaborate production and neces-
sitates our confining ourselves to a few practical suggestions.

'• Quality. — Whatever may be his wishes, the grower knows right well that he
cannot grow fruit to order. Kven with his best efrorts to produce fine fruit ho finds
that each season brings him a proportion which does not fall under that heading.
This brings in the question — What shall I ship, and where?

" The market prospects at home and abroad, as far as he can ascertain them, are
before him. and many considerations must influence his decision.

''In shipping to Britain, howi-vor. the consideration of freight and charges,
competition and the small attention paid to second-rate goods, should lead growers to
be wary of shipping hither that class of apjtles.

" From all our experience, during the last eighteen years, wo can with con-
fidence say: If you wish to secure good i-esults, ship only good, relial'le fruit, and
whore choice can be added, so much tho better.

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" Under this heading we may include ' Condition '—that is, condition on arrival
at destination, which, of course, is due to condition on leavin,<^ and packing (the
latter wo shall speak of later). Tiiis is all-important. The cdoicc&t fruit, out of
condition, is of small value.

" It is a point, moreover, on which few suggestions of value can be given —
what will and what will not stand the journey, etc., being matters which experience
only can teach, coupled with careful observation.

" Here again direct communication from the distributor would bo a great gain.

" We may remark, however, that neither very green fruit nor fruit almost ripe
— that is just ripe — should be packed.

" The former meets a bad market because of its appearance ; the latter is almost
sure to be bruised and ' chippy,' and also sells at a low price.

'' We now come to ' Packing.'

" It is not likely that the ' barrel ' can be improved upon as a package, though
the barrel itself may.

" We hear of a ventilated barrel i-ecently invented in America, which, if all said
of it is borne out in practical experience, bids fr.ir to supercede the present close one.

" There is only one thing pei-haps which may prove an objection. We refer,
however, to its peculiar feature, fearing ihat the free passage of the air through it
may cause shrivelling of i^s contents when kept in it for any lengthy time, and as
this point is more for the retailer to decide it would not show till, say, the next
season, so that growers may find it useful not to ship all their early consignments
in this new package — should it come into use — until they are satisfied as to this
possible objection. Honesty of packing, that is, ' the same quality thrcughout,'
cannot be too strongly urged. The grower who persistently — yea, occasionally —
transgresses this rule, will have cause to repent his folly. We observed a stiong
case in point only last month. The apples of a well known shijiper were badly
topped. A high price was paid, not only because of the tojD, but because of the
brand which usually ensured good packing. On finding out their '^•ondition below
the confidence of the buj'er in that brand was thus rudely shaken, and he will not
be inclined to bid for the next lot shown. This is only one ca><e in man}', but it
shows the necessity ofalicay.'f packing honestly — for confidence is a guarantee of pi-ice.

" We know an English grower who, with eveiy package, sends a small printed
ticket affixed, which runs 'This fruit is packed, as far as is practicable, the same
througliout,' his name following; the result being — tardy, perhaps, but suie — that
wherever his goods are marketed a good price is secureil. Of course, the packing
bears out the label. Some of our Canadian friends may emulate this idea, though
with a brand instead of label, and where tlue care is taken we believe whoever does
Avill not find it labour in vain.

" Another thing is the 'grading ' of the fruit. This should not be over done,
but where the quantity of any one variety admits of it, a judicious selection of sizes
and colours will be to the advantage of the exporter.

" Each lot should be distinguished by the brand, and so ?,dvised on consign-
ment note.

"Another point of great importance is ' tight' packing. This doubtless most
growers are aware of, yet we niust urge it again, as some either do not know or do
not practice it.

" Wo remember a small lot of apples sent by a private party from Xew York
to our care. No doubt the fruit must be crushed (so thought the sender), so when
opened the barrels were hut three parts full, and fit for little but the manure heap.
Even with consignments of experienced shippers do the hateful 'slacks' appear,
which tell so severely on the average returns. We pi-esume that hydraulic presses
f'.re the best means for forcing the bottoms of the barrels into their places, but where
they are not available we have no doubt that the ingenuity of the Canadian farmer
will devise the means on being acquainted with the necessity.

" We now come to our last head, on which we shall have little to say.

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"Variety is a wide subject, and one into which many considerations enter with
tlio grower. Having informed himself (and this should l)e before a tree is planted)
of all or most of the varieties suitable to the climate and soil of his farm, and of the
cropping qualities of eaci. — which with the Canadian Horticulturist in his hands,
and the co-operation so willing given, of its editor and staff, he ought, with com
parativo ease, to do — his next cousideratio i in choosing his stock of trees is the
marketable values and keeping qualities of their produce. There are many vari-
eties which are so well known that we need hardly mention them, such as the 'King
Pippin,' ' Northern Spy,' 'Baldwin.' 'Eusset' 'Greening,' etc.

'■ Wo would urge, however, that of these quality rather than quantity should be
aimed at in their production. For while quality alwaj's commamls the market,
quantity .'ilone often drugs it.

" The early varieties often reach tliis country in a soft, sometimes almost
' mealy ' condition, and man}- have been the disappointments ovei- the beautiful
'Blush Pippin ' and kindred varieties.

•' To giow these crisper and juicier should therefore be the aimof our American
friends.

''These remarks also apjjly to that much-prized apple the 'Snow Pippin,'
which when bright, clean and sound always commands a good price; but how often
does it show far otherwise.

" The ' Ben Davis ' deserves more attention, being showy and a fiiir keeping
variety, but it needs flavour. Notwithstanding this defect, however, it secures good
prices when colour :rv size i>; right.

" The ' Eibston Fippiu,' too, does well when samples are fine, as Nova Scotian
shijipers know lu their advantage.

•'Another variety we should like to see more of is the ' Spitzenberg.' a reallv
gooil market apple, and i^ne in great demand, when tii e as to size and colour.

"The ' Seek no Further ' is a good variet}- also, tl ough apt to be small.

" Then the • Cranberry Pippin ' deserves special mention, with its finely streaked
cheek and agreeable flavour and good market qualities.

'"Amongst the culinarj' sorts the '20 oz. Pippin ' ' Fallawater,' and kindred
varieties command a good price when size is right.

'•'Sweets' seldom if ever do well, and should be discarded as indigestible
rubbish by the farmer.

"To oui- mind there are too many varieties, and whatever the grower for
private use <ir local consumption ma}- think and do, wo would counsel the producer
for export to limit his production to comparatively few well-tried kinds, believing
he will be the gainer thereby.

" We must now rio.-e our pajier, eonscious of many shortcomings in our hand-
ling of so large and important a subject: yet. if what we have said '' helps one sintjle
fellow traveller o'er the ^ands of 'time m his life-battle," our little labour is well
repaid.

'• The demand for fruit is steadily increasing. Fruit as an article of food, and
not merely of luxury, is rapidly going' into cons^u'mption, bringing its own results.

"The field is a wide one, and the intercourse between countries and nations
thus engendered cannot fail — where each conscientiously meets each — to bring a
measure of prosperity and happiness to all within its pale. With our best wishes
to all present.

" We are, Sir, Yours faithfully,

•• WOOD, OEMEROD*& CO."

Mr. P. i:. BrcKE, Ottawa.— A great deal has been said about packing in barrels
tightl}-, shipping in boxes, and all that kind of thing. I would like to ask if the
experiment has ever been tried to ship apples from this country in baskets ? Would
it be practical to do that? I think the baskets could be made in a very attractive
shape and that people would buy them.

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!Mr. WooLVERTON. — That would be a difficult question with a large quantit}'- of
apples. Thouf^ands of baskets of apples would be difficult to handle. I believe,
instead, that it would be better to have the half barrel. I have tried that quite
extensively in shipping to the old country and I think it is better than the basket.
The half barrel for extra choice apples has been a great advantai^e. That has been
my experience, although evidently it has not been the experience of Mr. Starr.

Mr. Allan. — The only way to test the basket would bo by ro-packiiig tlio apples
in Britain. When the fruit arrives there it could be put into smaller packages of
different shapes or sizes. Certainly, if you put a nice sample of fruit into a fancy
package containing a small quantity it commands a higher price proportionately
than in bulk. Of course, in re-packing this point has to he taken into consideration,
that even with good qualities you find a few specimens which are bruised, though
not hurt to a great extent, but sufficient for them not to be re-packod in the fancy
packages. However, i, large quantity of the fruit could be re[)acked, and 1 have
known instances where fruit has arrived at its destination in such poor condition
that by re-packing and placing it in fancy packages a good protit has been roali/ed ;
whereas if the barrel had been sold intact for a small price it would have involved
a loss to the shippei'. I have known of instances where that loss -.vas obviated by
repacking the fruit in smaller packages and selling in that way. A good price has
been obtained for the good fruit ; whereas, in the other way a lower price would
have had to be taken.

Ml'. Geo. Johnson, Dominion Statistician, Ottawa. — I was in London, some few
years ago, Mr. President, and a friend of mine in Xova Scotia sent twenty or thirty
barrels of apples to me to dispose of there. I ktiew nothing of the apple trade, but
it occurred to me, as I was cognizant pretty ^vell with the requirements of the
average London householder, that there was no place in his house for the barrel of
apples, but I thought there might be a iilace for a smaller package. I therefore
hired a room near the Monument on Fish "'troet Hill and set a lot of boys to work
to open the barrels, pick out the poor ones, and carefully sort out the hotter class.
They were Nova Scotia apples, and I put them into little boxes which would hold
about 25. My friends passed the word round, antl the apples went olf like hot cakes,
and I do not suppose that any consignment of apples from this side paid better than
those did. They met the wants of the London householder, inasmuch as he had
room in his pantr}' to put them in. The English people are accustomed to buy
about two dozen apples at a time, living from hand to mouth, as it were. The price
at which I sold them was much less than they had been accustomed to pay for their
apples, but the experiment was a successful one. While I am on my feet there is
one matter which T would like to bring before the members of this association. We
are now engaged in making our arrangements for the census of next year, and I
have thought that perhaps it would not be a poor plan if the members of the asocia-
tion would communicate with me by letter, giving me their views as to what points
they would like b-ought out in the next census. We will, in twelve or fifteen months
from now, begin the work of collecting. At present we are at work on the schedides,
and making our arrangementB preparatory to giving the enumerators the material
upon which to work. I am not sufficiently familiar with the details of the apple
trade, or of the fruit trade generally, to know what would be useful information for
the people of this country and for the fruit growers to possess, but if the member's
of the association who do know these thing's, and are experts in the matter, would
communicate with me, I think we could tabulate all their information, ami in this
way obtain a fruit schedule whick would be useful to the community at large, and
particularly so to the members of this association, as a standard by which to judge
future efforts and as a means for getting this information which possibly they would
not be able to obtain in so compact a form in any other way.

Mr. Shepherd.— I was glad to hear from the paper just read that the Fameuse
sells well in England when i"t is crisp. I understand the English consumer wants
his apple crisp ; and that an apple, such as the Fameuse, is here at Christmas time,
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Now, I am of tho opinion that it is impossible to ship the Famouse to arrive in
England in that crisp condition. It is impossible to ship that variety in tho barrel
to retain that crispness. I, therefore, still reiterate what I said last night, that the
compartment case is the best package to adopt in shipping the higher qualities of
apples to England — that is, apples of tender flesh, which can be easily bruised, such
as |he Fameuse and the Wealthy. 1 shipped a number of cases of the Wealthy to
England. I do not know that they had ever been shipped there before; but tho
report I i-eceived was that the Wealth}- was a superb apple. That is the English
verdict. It is a delicate apple, of high flavour, and the pressure which is brought to
bear in packing them in barrels destroys them; therefore, such apples as the
Fameuse and the Wealth}'' do not carry well in ban-els. 1 have adopted a compart-
ment case which seems to meet the object in view. I have also shipped tho winter
St. Lawrence in cases. That apple will not ti-avel 100 miles in a barrel. It is of
tender texture, and does not keep very long — perhaps until Christmas. The Winter
St. Lawrence, when shipped in cases, were very highly spoken of The point I
wish to make is, that for shipping the high quality ap])les to England one has to
discard the barrel. We want to get the highest price in England, and we cannot
get that unless the fruit is in first-class condition; and we cannot put these par-
ticular varieties on the English market in the condition necessary to command a high
price if they are sent over in barrels. The prices which I have received for my
apples in cases satisfies me that it is the right method to adopt. I grow only high
class apples, and always ship to Hngland in cases. I draw particular attention
to the case, believing it is the best thing. I have no interest in it ; it is not
i^atented, but is just like an egg case, with interior compartments, holding from ten
to fifteen dozen.

Senator Eeesor. — Is it a square case ?

Mr. Shepherd. — The}' hold seven by seven, and there are four layers of them in
one case, which makes about sixteen dozen. A case of that size takes an apple of
the size of a good-sized Fameuse. The twelve dozen cases take the winter St.
Lawrence and the lai-ge Wealthy. I get the pasteboard made at the factories in
Montreal, where they make the interior of the egg cases, mai-king the squai-e of the
size I want it to be on a piece of paper as a pattern for them to go by. I tell them
I want so many in the trays. They furnish me the trays and the squares. The case
costs me 50 cents.

Mr. Johnson. — Do you wrap them up in paper before putting them into the case ?

Mr. Shepherp. — I have done so when 1 want to be very particular, although I
do not know that it is neoessar}'. The chief thing we have to look to is that the
apples fit the squares. It takes some time to fill up the cases in the orchard. The
plan I have adopted is to put two cases between a row of trees ; the largest apples go
into the cases, and when the men bring the baskets of ap]iles to pack into the barrels
we put on (me side those that are to go into the cases. It is essential that the apples
fit tho squai-es exactly. If they are fitted in too tightly tho apples are bruised on
the four sitles. If they are too small they rattle about in the cases, and that does not
do. They have to be nicely fitted.

Senator Eeesor. — Do the cases hold about half a barrel ?

Mr. Shepherd. — Yes; about half a barrel.

Senator Perley. — What do the c^ses cost ?

Mr. Shepherd.— I have got them at about 50 cents. A man has a small planing
mill near me, and I contracted with him last year at $30 a hundred for the boxes
themselves. It is half-inch stuff, with about an eighth of an inch nailing on the
boards all round. The interior will cost about 15 cents.

Mr. Starr. — Do you have the interior perforated at all ?

Mr. Shepherd.— There is a tray put in, and the squares are put on it with
the pasteboard tray over it. The tray only is perforated. There is a sufficient
circulation of air through the slats in tlie boxes I do not think it costs much to get
up the interior in that way. Of course, the less work you give to the box
manufacturer the less the cost will be to you.

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Mr. BucKE.— -"What Avill tliose halt-barrels, Dr cases, fetch in the Eiiiilisli
market ?

Mr. SnEPHEUD. — I have never sent any over as a speciihitioii. The tact is, I
liave never had enouiih cases to dispose of; the demand lias been li-roater than the
supply. I sold forty cases to one man in Montrt-al — to a ,<>ontlenian who has a
business connection in England, lie useil to ship his Montreal Fameiise alwa^-s in
liarrels, but he has discarded shippini;' in barrels since the "••ses have lieen used. He
bought forty cases of Fameuse and Wealthy last year, and paid me 83 a case for tliem
at Monti-eal.

Mr. Bi;cKE. — That would be about 80 a liarrel?

Mr. Shepherd. — Yes; but you must remember that the packin«r'costs more.

Mr. BucKE. — I think- that would puy very well.

The President. — I have amotion which has been jtlaced in niy hands. It reads
as follows : —

'• Movetl by Mr. L. Woolverton, seconded by G. C. Caston, that the following
gentlemen constitute a legislative committee, to whose considei'ation all matters
requiring legislation shall be referred: Rev. Canon Fulton, P. Q. ; Ifon. W. D.
Perley, Wolsely. N.-W. T. ; A. McD. Allan, Goderich. Ont.; G. W. Henry, Port
Hammond, B. C; B. Starralt, Annapolis. X. S. ; L. Woolverton, Grimsby, oiit.

Is it your pleasure to adopt the motion?

Motion cariied.

Mr. Woolverton. — There is one subject which should be referred to this com-
mittee at once, and that is with regard to the statistics mentioned by Mr. .Tolinson. I
think at present the statistics of fruit culture, garden and orchard products are ver}'
im])ertect. We have no means of knowing the itiiniber of a]iplcs, ))eai's and ))eaclu's
produced in any of the Provinces, and although wc have some knoAvledge of the fruit
]iroduct in bulk we have nothing in detail. We know everything about wheat,
l)arley and other tield products, but with regard to the gai-den and occhiird products
Ave are almost ignorant, and I thiidc that the (Jovernment should obtain this infornui-
tion for us. I move, therefore, seconded by Mr. A. M. Smith, of St. Catharines :

" That in the opinion of this Convention, the present statistics of tlie garden and
orchard products of the Provinces are exceedingly imperfect, ana should be under-
taken upon an entirely new basis, to include a detailed statement of the various fruits,
large and small, grown and exportetl, as well as the quantity of each imported into
the country."

The President. — I luny say that wlien Mr. .Tohnson Avas s])eakingon this matter
I considered it one of the most important subjects that could be brought tooui-atten-
tion. Anyone who has had to deal with the question of fruit culture, and esj)ecially
in its relation to disease, orchard extension, or decline, &c., must recognize the fact
that we have absolutely no statistics on the subject that we can rely on. Xow, if in
the next census we can have a statement in reference to orchard area in thedilferent
Provinces and the amount of ]»i'oduce from each, it would accomplish a vast amount
of good. I hope it will be possible for us to obtain some, legislation looking in that
direction.

Mr. Smith. — In seconding the motion, I would say that I have been trying to get
at the commercial value of small fruits for a long time, but I have had little or no
success.

Mr. Geo. Johnson. — They were all bunched together in the last census, so much
so that they are really of no value. I am at present in communication with the
authorities at Washington with respect to the mode in which they deal with this
question, and also with respect to dairying matters, so that in the next census we
may get a detailed statement, rather than the bulk statement we have had hitherto.

Mr. Brodie. — In connection Avith the census of Avheat and tield products, many
people feared that it Avas simply a plan to get increased taxation, and I believe in this
case it will be a prettj'- hard matter, in some sections of the country-, to get at the
facts.

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Mr. .Toiixsnx.— 1 think the ,<,^rowth of education, during the past ten years, has
hecn 80 urcat that we will not liavo the trouble which we had at the last censn in
inducing the people to furnish the information that wo want. With the gentIen>on
around me to educate the agricultural conimunitieis on the subject, we will be pretiy
sure to have a fair statement of our fruit ar\d other products.

Mr. R. W. Starr.— One industry Iuih been left out of all past censuses, which I
think should be taken notiuo of in the coming census — that is, the nursery trade. It
is a great industry in the J)ominion. We hope to see it larger than it is now. I
think in the past we have been depending too much on our neighbours for our fruit
trees, much to the deti-iment of the fruit growers of Canada. Wo want northern
grown trees; we want to know what our capabilities are for growing them and what
we are doing. The census should give us full returns, if a column is inserted in the
schedules asking for this information.

Mr. Frankl.wd.— At the end of the annual reports published by the conventions
held in the United States the association gives a list ot nurseries within the bounds
that the convention represents. I do iiot'thiidv it would be a bad idea if we were to
adopt a similar plan in Canada.

THE DEVLOPMENT OF THE NOVA SCOTIA APPLE TRADE.

The President. — I will now ask Sir. Starr for his paper on "The Development
of the Nova Scotia Apple Trade with England."

Mr, C. R. II. Starr. — Mr. Tresident and Gentlemen, — I must apologize for not
having a written paper to present to you. Circumstances have prevented me having
anything moi-e than a few notes, and you will be kind enough on that account to
bear with nie for any imperfections in the remarks which I might make. I assure
3'ou that as far as any tigures or statements that 1 may present are concerned I shall
endeavour to be within the mark, at all events, i timl by the programme that I ain
to speak on the development of the Nova Scotia apple trade with England. I woulU
say, Mr. President, that the export of apples from Nova Scotia to England began in
a very small way about the year IStiO. There may have been a few barrels sent over
by private parties previous to that date, but they were very few. The first shipment
of any lai-ge quantity was in 18G7 or 1808, when fcnir or iivo thousand ban-els were
sent to England in a sailing vessel. These, as you will observe by the reports of the
Nova Scotia Fruit Growers' Association at that time, were thrown upon the London
market, rather to the astonishment of the London people. The agent, who accom-
panied the cargo, met with a great difficulty in procuring brokers av ho would under-
take the handling at that time, as they would not look at Canadian fruit, and
although he insisted upon it that they should be sold as Nova Scotia fruit, it was
not until the third cargo had been landed that he got the name of " Nova Scotia
Apples " on them. The first two caigoes the brokers insisted upon calling them
American fruit ; otherwise, they said, they could not sell that quantity on the market;
but the third cargo was put out as Nova Scotia fruit. Notwithstanding the diffi-
culties of this experiment in the way of packages and suitable ships, the whole
venture proved satisfactory, and fi'om that shipment ai-ose the present trade in apples
from Nova Scotia. I may just say here, that alt hough Nova Scotia apples have been
sent in small quantities to Livei'pool, Glasgow, Edinburgh, and even to the continent
in some cases, London has been our chief market. In comparison with the circulars
of sales from the various other markets, \vc find, as a rule, that we make better prices
in London than our friends do elsewhere. vVhether this is owing to the quality of our
fruit or not I am not pi-epared to say, but I think, probably, that has something to
do with it, although I am free to confess that oui- Nova Scotia apples in many cases
are not what they ought to be, and we have the same difficulties which I have heard
mentioned this morning, jvnd have felt them from the commencement of the export
trade up to the present, of getting the fruit packed and delivered on the mai-ket in an
improper condition. Every one here, doubtless, knows of these difficulties, and I need
not take up your time in discussing them fui-ther. I, myself, began shipping in a
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trade direct with London in various comnioditios, ami \vc iVoqiicMitly securi'd the
poop-deck in sailing vesKols to till up with our apples. Soinetimes tliey would cany
r>(IO or (iOO barrels and souietinics less, wlien they were carried 'in this way.
For the benetit of those gentlemen present who do not know much about
shipping I may say that the poop-deck is merely the quarter deck
iiliove the main deck, where we obtained nmch cooler storage than was possible to
get in the hold among other cargo. These shij)ments i»roveil very satisfactorv. At
that time we sold " Blenheim Pippins" and '' Ribsfon Pippins " as high as";;Os. to
.'Jos. per barrel for the lots, and while these prices have fallen in some cases, e\ . )W
we get them sometimes when we send consignments by steamships, 1 have a tabu-
lated statement here, Mr. President, of the prices which we have obtained for our
Xova Scotia apples in London during the last ten years. I know tigures are rather
wearisome, but as they will enable you to make a comparison with the prices received
by shippers from other parts of the Dominion, in the discussion which follows I shall
be glad to know whether wo are in advance or behind other sections of the Dominion
in this respect. I have mentioned here certain leading varieties of Nova Scotia
apples — that is, Gravenstein, Ribston, Blenheims, Baldwins, Kings, Golden Russets
and Nonpareil. I have taken the average price from sales of large quantities, but 1 have
not considered fruit in bad condition or delivered under unfavourable circumstances,
as I do not think that would be a fair criterion. I have taken the last average tigures,
not the highest tigures by any means, because we frequently tind odd barrels that
run up into the " forties." A shipment ofGravensteins in the year 1880 realized, at
that time, from 16s. to IGs. ()d. This price continued about the same until the year
1884, when they rose to from 17s. to 20s. on the average sales, and last year for No. 1
< rravensteins we got 228. for the bulk of No. I's. During the present season, [ am sorry
to say, Mr. President, we have been unable to supply the London market with
Gravensteins, owing to their early maturity and the want of shii:)ping facilities at
the moment they were ready. This was a thing we were warned against in 1887-8,
and as a consequence most of our Gravensteins went to New York. We were warned
by our London friends that we were in danger of losing our customeis in not con-
tinuing to supply the demand created in years gone by. The Londoners ask for Nova
Scotia Gravensteins, and we were told if we could not supply them they would have
to go elsewhere to try to get them. As a result, they immediately succeeded in find-
ing them in Germany in plentiful quantities, and they secured enough to supply the
demand which we failed to meet, owing to our fruit maturing too early and being
too soft to ship at the time we had expected. This may apply to other leading vari-
eties at some other time, and I therefore mention this as a warning tl.at when we
have leading varieties, for which we have created a demand, that we must not let go
the main cluince by simply for that season grasping at it elsewhere. Our experience
has been the experience of others with different commodities in the past. Take the
case of the onion. A few years ago a syndicate attempted to C(jrner the market in
onions, and they woke up one fine morning to fintl Egyptian onions on the mai-ket,
and the result is, we have had Egyptian onions on the market ever since. That may
be the case with Gravensteins in London, hereafter.

Mr. BucKE — Are these German apples as good as y^M Gravensteins?

Mr. SrAKR. — I do not think they are, but they suppTf'! the market this year at
fair prices. I bc'ieve, also, that a quantity ofGravensteins from Denmark was sent
to London, as well as from (iormany. Now I come to the prices which we obtained
for Ribston Pippins. Durinii; the past ten seasons they have run somewhat as fol-
lows : In 1880, from iTs. to 20s.; in 1884, from 2;:{s.to HOs.; in J887,from 20s. to 37s.;
and during the present season they i-un from 238. to 30s. Our Blenheims in 1880
brought from 17s. to 23.; in 1884, from 25s. to 29s.; in 188(i, from 16s. to 24s.; in
1887, from 20s. to 27s.; and this season from 20s. to 28s. Our Baldwins in 1880
brought from I5s. to 18s.; in 1882-3, fi-om 22s. to 24s.; the year folloAving from 22s.
to 25s. ; in 188(J, from 14s. to 21s. In 1887-8 the Baldwins were very poor ; they were
scabby, and sold as low as from 8s. for No. 2 and very few Avent above 12s. The present
season the}' are realizing from 13s. to 25s. Our Kings in 1881, fetched from 23s.

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Rd. to 303. ; the next year, from 258. to HOs. ; in 18ft4-5, from 1«)h. to 21s. ; in 1886-7,
from 15rt. to 20s.; in 1888-!>, from IHs. to 2l8. ; ami diirin/jf the proHont .xouson, from
159. to 30s. (toidon llussotH in 1882-3, brought from 2()s. to 2S«. ; in 1884-5, from
IGs. lo21s, ; Ihe yoar following from 14s. to 23s. ; in 1886-7, from ISs. to28.s. ; in
18S7-8, from 20s. to H^n. — a low going as high as 40s,, and diii-ing tho present Hoason
Golden Russets are bringing from 208. to 258. Our Nonpareil, which in a splendid
apple tor the table, is perhaps not generally known in Ontario and other sections of
the ])ominion. For a long time we have regarded it as one of our best Nova Scotiu
apples for late shipment. The apple is mucli smaller than the Jloxbury ilusset; por-
hajjs it is not quite so highly flavoured, and it is a question in the minds of our best
pomologists whether or not it is the same apple, which has <dianged a little ^^rough
propagation, or cultivation, or climate, or some other cause. Probably l^ TV.

Starr will tell you later on that Mr. Downing, in his day, examined it th«-. .-ughly
many times, and he pronounced it in every case not a lloxbury Russet, while the
habit of growth of the trees and other things about it would indicate it almost to be
the same. This apple we have frequently shipped from this side as late as the
month of May, and we usually realized very high prices for it from April on into
June. Unfortunately, however, this state of affairs does not exist now, owing to the
competition which we have to contend with in green fruit from Australia, the first
of which arrived in London in the summer of 1880, and has continued to ar-
rive there in larger quantities each year. They begin to arrive about the
middle or tho latter part of April, and being green and fresh at that time,
for us to put our previous season's fruit alongside them is like putting a fresh picked
apple alongside one of those which are here in the room now. Naturally, therefore,
we have a strong competitor in the Australian green fruit. We have therefore
found it to our advantage to ship off the whole of our Nonpareils and put thom on
the market before the arrival of the Australian apples. The possibilities of the
trade in Nova Scotia apples with England are very great indeed. We hav< great
many advantages in Nova Scotia over, perhaps, all the rest of the iJom' from

the very fact that our apples are grown, you may say, on the pier. j the

discussion last evening on tho question of transportation, and the delays of rail-
ways, etc.. we Nova Scotians could not but congratulate ourselves that we were not
troubled with these difficulties. As I remarked last evening, we can load our apples
on to the cars in the morning and have them on tho steamer in the afternoon. By
running special trains for this purpose, which our railway companies are usually
disposed to do, we are able to do this in the coldest of weather, oven although we
have not the shipping facilities at Haliiax that we should have. We have been
endeavouring for a number of years to procure frost-proof warehouses at the railway
terminus there in order that we might send our apples to Halifax in mild weather
on days previous to the arrival of the ship, so that we might know we should not be
subjected to the risk of frost ; but even Avith the lack of these facilities which we
have to-day, by putting fires in the cars we are able to ship in the coldest weather
and have the fruit exposed but a very short time. This is one of the advantages of fruit
growing in Nova Scotia. Our seaports are open the entire winter, and we can ship
our apples on the very day that the ship is ready to sail or Avhen the fruit is just
ready to ship. That is another very great point. As for cur capabilities of fruit
growing, I am sorry that our collection here is not lai-ger, as we might have shown
you something better as samples of Nova Scotia fruit. I may say, however, that
we should be glad to have any of our friends visit us during the autumn and see
the orchards. You could then better judge for yourselves than I could tell you as
to what our capabilities are, what sort of a climate and soil we have for growing
apples. We are pleased to know that our fruits stand second to none in the Engli.sh
markets, where we have taken proper care in packing and putting it on the market
in good shape. My own experience iu this line has been considerable. I began
with my first shipments to consign, as many of you do, to brokers in the English
markets, who place them on sale at auction, where they were sold for whatever they
would fetch at the time they were offered. Finding this not to be very satisfactory

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we Hiiccooded in mulving iniu-h bottei- arranjLrumoi>l«. It cume uhout inlhihwsiy:
It Imppcnoil to bo my privilege unci iluty to ^^o to London with u laryo con-i^aiinout
of potatoes. At tlie tinit! whon the caiji;o arrived |>otatoes were a glut on the
market and prices were very dull. Things looked very blue lor me. For sf>nie
days previous to the arrival of the shiji 1 was looking about me and found polatoes
selling at auction at ruinously low prices. 1 made up my mind that if I had to
sell the potatoes at the ruling prices I would be unable to pay the fr«Mght. I also
looked about the markets an(l found large quantities of potatoes l)eing sold at private
sale — to the jobbing trade. This naturally induced mo to place my potatoes in the
hande of men who, I felt sure, from what 1 had seen, could realize the highest price.
I found that l)y selling at private sale the prices realized were much bettor than by
selling at auction on the same day. This led me to inquire why our apples wore being
sold at auction, and it occnrrtd to me that if potatoes could be sold at private sale
our apples could also be sold in that way, and we should make much bettor prices.
\o one could answer me in any other way than that it was the custom to sell apples
by auction as well as other kinds of fruit. In talking with parties who were soiling
t(j the retail trade at private sale, they said they know these men who wore buying
potatoes also dealt largely in apples. They came to buy their supply of potatoes at
private sale and then went over to the auction sale to purchase their apples. They
told me that they would talk the matter over with them as to whether or not they
would purchase apples at private sale — whether they were willing to buy api)les in
that way. The matter was discussed with their customers in my pi'csence, and when
they were asked if they would buy apples by private sale the rei)ly invariably was,
" Certainly if you Nova Scotia people or Canadians will send apples here where we
know what we can get and can select what we want at private sale we should prefer
doing that, and buying our supplies at any time that was convenient to us, rather
than that we should go to the auction saics at certain hours and simply judge from
samjjles as to what the bulk would be." The result was, that the next autumn we
consigned our apples for private sale. This happened ten years ago. The result is,
that to-day at least one-third, and in some seasons considerably more than that, of
our Nova Scotia apples is being sold in England at private sale, instead of by auction,
and the figures which I have given you will compare, as far as my knowledge goes,
favourably with the average sales ot those markets. That is one of the favoui'able
points to our Nova Scotia apple trade, one that I think we have reason to be thank-
ful for, and it is nothing but what any man can adopt or make arrangements for. I
think the question has been alluded to before in reference to other matters in this
line. Now, Mr. President, in Nova Scotia we have plenty of room for double and
even treble the number ot orchards that we have now, and we believe thfit in a very
few years the quantity of fruit that we shall produce there will be double or treble our
present product, which, up to the present time, our expoi'ts to London alone have
been 113,000 barrels. This quantity in a few years we expect to double, and double
over again as the years roll on. Thousands of young orchards are being planted to-
day, and have been during the past few years. And here I may remark that I was
glad of the reference which our satistician, Mr. Johnson, made to the coming census.
We find a great ditticulty in getting at anj'thing like a correct statement of our fruit
or orchard development. We have no means whatever of getting at the quantity
of trees brought into the country. I endeavoured a few years ago, at the request of
our association, to obtain some information on this point, but found it utterly imprac-
ticable to get at anything reliable. The suggestion to do this in the next census
is undoubtedly a good one, and will be of great use to us if carried out etfectually.
Allusion has been made to the ventilated barrels tor export. If you allow me a word
upon that matter I would say that I have examined this ventilated barrel particularly
and I quite endorse the statement made by some gentlemen here last evening, that
our experiecce has not been in favour of an open barrel for shipping apples. If we
had ships thoroughly ventilated and the circulation of pure air through the vessels,
l)08sibly the ventilated barrel would be satisfactory. But with our present facilities
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Id an open barrel than if the barrel were closed. Another question Avith reference
to the use of tnis same barrel is the danger of the fruit being frozen in an
open barrel, whereas the tight barrel might bo sufficient protection during
the railway journey. I quite endorse the idea that for railway shipments
01 transportation on the docks of steamers the open barrel would be bene-
ficial, but it is doubtful whether it would be so in the hold of an ocean ship.
The varieties named here we find to be the most profitable in Nova Scotia, although
there are several other varieties which are being grown in our Province, and perhaps
some of these may, in years to come, pro' e to be quite as profitable as the varieties
I have named. Mr. Dempsey last evening referretl to Cox's Orange Pippin as being
a desirable apple to sell. "We have had some experience with it, an'i it is not an
apple that is a satisfactory grower with us. What few we njight have down there,
even if they were tc get a high price for them, would not be as profitable as other
varieties which yield much more in quautity and are better in quality as a whole.
The same thing will applj- to the Xewton Pippin, an apple which brings the highest
price in the English market, but which varies very much, that variation being
explained by many varieties being branded Newton Pippin, which are not. There
are very few Newton Pippins to be had, and they are getting less and less every
year, and we find them so subject to black scab as to be almost useless, although they
will stand more black scab than any other variety shipped — so much so, that pur-
chasers look for the black spot by which to identify the apple. That is the opinion
of the English dealer. Mr. Allan or General Laurie spoke of the fnat of the Aiany
and Navj- stores. I examined the Newton Pippin there, and got ai. the information
possible from them with reference to the kinds and style of package and so on. I
could plainly see that there was little chance for any radical change wit'i reference
to our varieties. I qui*? endorse the fact that Mr. McBride mentioned this morning,
that we in Nova Scotia do not use as good a class of bariel as we should. It has
been my aim to induce our farmers to use a better class of barrel, but with few
exceptions the difference in the cost will more than overbalance the cost in any
other v/ay. If they can secure a barrel for 15 cents or 18 cents they will
pay that, instead of getting a firpt-dass bariel. Perhaps 1 have said enough on this
subject.

Mr. Shepherd. — I do not think you gave us the prices for the Nonpareils. AVilt
you kindly do so ?

Mr. Starr.— Certainly. In J.8S2-3 we obtained from 22s. to 30s.-, in 1883-4,
from 21s. to 25s., a few t^elUng as nigh ae 30s. a barrel; in 1885-(). from 15s. to 22s.;
in 1887-8, from 17s. to 27s. ; in 1888 9. from 10s. to I6s.; and this season from Hs.
to 25j.

Mr. Shepherd.— Now, will you give vs the varieties in the order of their
importance and value.

Mr. Starr. — We would place at the head of the list, as the most profit-
able variety, the Gravenstein. Next, in some quarters, comes the Ribston. It is
necessary that the Ribston Pippin should be planted on heavy clay loam. They do

•est on uraincd soil ; they do not do well on gravelly or light soil. Golden Rus'sets,
ving oi'Tomkir.s and Elenheims, perhaps, would come on a level with the Ribstons!

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The Nonpareil, in Annapolis County, I think Mr. Starratt willbear me out, is one
of the most profitable varieties with the Gravenstein, As to the Baldwin, it is an
open question with us. Ln some scnsoi's it will grow very profitably, but unless the
season is a long, dvy and hot one, Baldwins are not is satisfactorv an we would like
to have them. They seem to require a longer and hotter season rhan we are always
sure of getting. Consequentl\-, we do not pin our faith to (hem alwan-. although
they .M-e enormous yielders. In leferenee lo the packing in cases, I think I men-
tioned last night that our experience with packages, other than barrels, has not
been a success, although we have tested ii on sovcral occasions. The great ditHculty
with the case is. to secure the fruit so as to put them into squares , so'that they will
no move. We have not tound it ni;ich of a success to ].utup apples in smaller packages
as they appear to be only saleable at good prices about Christmas time. As a general

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rule they are not wunte-l. Mr, President, 1 can only say that if the fruit-growei-s of
Ontario or any other section of the Dominion, or of the world, wish to make any
change in their fruit orchards and get clear of any disadvantages they rnay be sut-
foring under now, by living in the "interior of the country, a long way fiom ship-
board, I would like them to come to the Province of Nova Scotia, to the Annapolis
V^alley, and to other valleys that are now being opened rp and provided with such
facilities as to enable us to export our fruit readily. Thousands of acres of land
available for fruit gi owing are now lying in pasture or bushes. We look upon apple
growing in Nova Scotia as being the leading industry, and a great industry, that will
pay any practical man who devotes his whole time and attention to that business, or
even a general farmer who devotes a portion of his time to it. We are glad to know
that many friends are coming into the country exclusively for this purpose. One
gentleman from Ontario who is sitting before me now, a gentleman who lives in
Ottawa, bought a largu orchard in the immediate vicinity of Giand Pi^. in the land
of E- angeline, which he hopes will be a great success. Alongside of him Judge
AV^atnerland's plantation is one of the wonders to visitors. He has made it a great
success; it is an orchai-d among the biir-hes. To a great extent he has succeeded bj'
cutting away and making room for his trees, and clearing up as time will permit.
He is very enthusiastic, and although not a practical horticulturist, I think he bids
fair to make a success of orcharding. These are but samples of what is going on in
our Province ; and, as I said before, we have plenty of i-oom for thousands more to
adopt the same plan and make Nova Scotia a continuous fruit orchard from one end
of the coiiniry to the other.

Mr. Allan. — There was one point in Mr. Starr's observations which I could not
help noting. It was a very excellent one. It was the establishment at the seaboard
— I think it would be better there than inland — of coifvenient storage houses for the
purpose of storing the fruit in as natural a condition as possible. For this reason, it
does not pay to ship all the varieties of fruit at the time of picking, as, for instance,
the Russets. They are not wanted for immediate consumption ; there is no demand for
them in a British market at that particular time, and if we could regulate the traffic
so as to ship these varieties in the proper season for consumption to the British
markets, when they are wanted, we could, upon the aveiage, leceive a much better
price. The Russet, as a rule, is not wanted until after the new year and towards
the spring, so that our storage houses would come in very useful in that way. That
is a matter which requires a good deal of consideration to perfect it.

Mr, C, R, H. Stakr. — Will you allow me to say that a fewyeai-s ago an English
firm built an expensive and fine fruit houso at Annapolis for this very purpose. It
has, as a warehouse, been a great success, Unforluiiatel}', the success of shipping
from that end of the valley has not been as great a succeus as we would wish, for the
leason that it is always better to get the ships tj come for apples alongside the
wharf. I am rather surprised you have no such facilities at Montreal.

Mr. Shepiikrd. — In this connection I may say that when you and I, as a deputa-
tion, visited the i-epresontatives of the steamship and and railway lines, Mr. Sargeant,
of the Grand Trunk Railway, suggested this. We mentioned the points that Mr. Allan
mai1e two years ago in regard to the port of Montreal being inferior to the port of
New York; that the extra handling at Montreal— the cartage from tlie railway to
the steamer — militated against the port; and Mr. Sai-geaut then saitl they would send
the cars down to the wharves and sometimes the siiips were not prepared to take
them, and they had to bring the cars back again. He said they had sent the cars
down three or' four times before the ships were prepared to take the fruit on board.
He therefore, suggested this: He .said they had acquired large warehouses in Mon-

treal alongside of which the track ran, ami he suggested

storing

the barrels in these
wai-ehouses until the ships were prepared to receive them, and then they could be
lightered down from the canal basin to the harbour. He thouglit less damage would
be done in that way to the fruit and the cartage would be saved,

Mr, Allan— That wouKl necessitate an extra expense, however. The expense
of it might be serious, but it is hard to tell.

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Mr. R, ^y. Starr. — I would like to make a few observations on this matter.
Only two 3^ears ago, in sending a lot of holiday fruit, I put among them a few barrels
of extra Fallawaters, well coloured and handsome. These apples sold for Ib's. a
barrel ; that was the highest rate I could get for them. In the latter part of Febru-
ary, about the 25th, I shipped some more ban-els of Fallawaters, and I had three
qualities. My few barrels, the extias, brought me 328., the number I's brought SOs.
and the No. 2's 2G8.; so you see what it is to keep the apples and send them to the
market at the proper time. I had a fruit cellar where I could keep them ; but many
of our farmers having no warehouses or places to keep them, had to send them to
market at the time when prices were lowest. The British consumer does not buy
ahead, or the jobber does not hold heavy stocks. The result is, that if you send apples
to market earlier than they are wanted they must be sacrificed. We have no such
risks down by the sea as you have, only the risk of free/' '„ because we have onh'
four or five hours in getting from the orchard to the ship, tiiat is, if the cars are ready
and can get them down in the proper time. The onlj- thing we ar-^ 'acking is roll-
ing stock for the railway. AVe want, for the early season, ventilated .> during the hot
weather, cars that will carry the fruit with the least possible liability u) to overheating.
Then, when it gets colder we want frost-proof cars, cars that can be heated by means
of lamps, stoves or some other means, in order that the temperature in the car may
be kept a little above freezing point. Then we want a better and more careful
system of handling and stowing, both on the cars and steamers. Then better ventil-
ation, and greater care in dischai'ging on the other side. We have most fault to find
with the way cargoes are delivei'ed, not the way they are taken, because almost
invariably we send an agent with the cars to the steamers, and it makes a vast
difference the way they are handled on arrival. With fail" handling, more com-
petition in freights, and frost-proof warehouses at the point of shipment, we should
be all right.

The President — I think these ai-e imp&rtant points, which we might refer to
the Committee on Transportation. Tn that connection I would make another sug-
gestion with reference to the sale of fruit on the London market by private sale. It
struck me that if there was an authorized agent there to act as agent to the Cana-
dian fruit growers, so that all Canadian fruit could be shipped to him and under
proper regulations, each man having his own brand on the barrels, and that agent
instructed to effect private sales, I think the question of market price would quickly
settle itself I think that is a matter which would be worthy of the consideration
of the Committee on Transportation.

Mr. Geo. Johnson — May I he allowed to state that during this year, in anticipa-
tion of the census, it will be very important that all persons growing fruit for export
should be very particular as to the quantities and value of the fruit that they raise,
more pai-ticularly so this year than in' any other year. Another point I might
mention is, that any letters addressed lO me at the Department of Agriculture,
Ottawa, should be marked " free."

The President. — I will now call upon Mr. Fisk to give us his paper on Russian
Apples.

Mr. J. M. FisK, of Abbotsford, then read the following paper: —

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Adaptation op Russian Fruits to Canadian Requirements.

Mr. Chairman and Gentlemen, — Xo portion of the Amei-ican continent is
likely to be more benefited by the introduction of the Russian fruits than the north-
ern part of the Dominion of Canada, csiiecially that ])ortion which lies north of par-
allel 4G, which requires trees, not only of the very hardiest types, but those which
mature their fruits early in the season.

This is characteristic with most of the Russian varieties, for they prepare for
the winter by thoroughly maturing the season's growth, having well-i-ipencd terminal
buds, which seldom fail to start in the spring. Our earliest and most profitable
summer apples are those of Russian origin, among which are Yellow Transparent,

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Charlottenthaler, Red Astraehan and Duchess ; and while many growers south of us
speak of the Russian varieties as being of little value, those north will continue to
sing their praises, for the reason that the trees will survive the cold winters and
ripen their fruits before the early frosts.

The north is essentially the home of the Russian apple ; and when we come to
consider that many of the varieties lately imported were selected from Northern
and Central Russia, where apple-growing is made a commercial industry in a
climate much colder than our own, being in a latitude six hundred miles farther
north than the city of Quebec, we can readily understaiid the possibility of extending
the area of apple culture in the Dominion much farther north than it was possible
to do with our old varieties. Hence their value to us, and climates of like
character.

The Duchess of Oldenburg has, for a number of years, been generally cultivated,
and so widely popular has this variety become for its productiveness and hai-diness,
that it is often referred to as a standard in comparison with other varieties ; ami
yet, among the later importations there are several varieties quite as productive,
and even more hardy than the Duchess. This is not only my experience, but others
as well.

A test case of 65 varieties was given by Mr. Gibb in a paper read at Quebec
two years ago, in which he said :

" To test the hardiness of the Russian apple trees, at their worst, in bleak open
prairie exposure, at the Minnesota State Experimental Station at St. Anthony, near
Minneapolis, 65 varieties were planted. The soil was rich ; and under good culture
they made a growth, in 1886, up to 20 and even 26 inches, which, however, ripened
well before winter.

" The winter of 1886-81 was unusually severe. Not one variety started from
its terminal buds.

" Sixteen varieties lost 1 inch or less of growth. Duchess killed back some-
times to old wood, but usually started buds from the base of the new wood. The
verdict was — 16 varieties hardier than Duchess.'*

This test was a more severe trial than anything we can give in the same
latitude, owing to the fact that after making a forced growth through high cultiva-
tion they were subjected to an exposure that we do not experience in our elevated
and hilly country.

We have on exhibition to-day the Arabka — with us, a midwinter fruit of good
size and attractive in appearance, but coarse in texture ; and like many other of the
Russian apples, will pro"e a profitable market variety. The tree is hardy, produc-
tive, and an early bearer.

Among the Russian varieties that have fruited so far, we have failed to find
what we have long been in search of, and that is, a long keeper of really good
quality. Many of the most promising could be greatly improved by crossing with
some of the best long-keeping varieties of good quality which are not sufficiently
hardv for our needs.

This is a work that should be entered upon at an early date by our Experi-
mental Stations.

" Our friends of the United States are ahead of us in this respect, as they have
already entoi-ed upon this work.

During the past season several of the State Experimental Stations have
pollenized some of the hardiest of the Russians with old varieties of better quality,
with what results time will tell. In any case, we are likely to share the benefit of
their experiments; but it is a work that we, too, should enter upon, and be in a
position to provide, from our own resources the needs of our country.

I have confined myself thus far to the Russian apple, with the view, and belief,
that it will fulfil, to a large extent, the requirements of the more exposed parts of
the Dominion ; but I do not feel as sanguine in regard to the Russian pear, plum and
cherry — partly for the reason that I have seen less of these fruits than the apple,
and partly from the fact that what I have seen is less encouraging. True, many of

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the pears are quite as hardy as the Duchess apple, and will make good stock to
ci'088 with other and better varieties.

The Bessemianka pear, which is tliought by Mi". Gibb to be one of the best,
fruited with me last season ; it was ripe in August. Small in size, coarse in texture,
and very perishable; not desirable for a market fruit.

The plums have not fruited with us yet, and I fear we have not yet received
the best of these ; while the cherries are more promising. The Vladimir is,
without doubt, one of the best and, I think, will jirove valuable in this country.

Before closing this short paper, Mr. Chairman, I feel it will not be amiss to
refer to the noble work done by our frieml, Mr. Charles Gibb, in his ettbrtsto benefit
the fruit interests of the Dominion. He has twice visited Kussia, at a considerable
sacrifice of time and means, in search of suitable fruits ; and it is through his efforts
that we are now in possession of many promising and new varieties. Ever ready
with pen and counsel in all work pertaining to horticulture, his absence at this, our
first Dominion Convention, is to be regretted by all who know him. '^^ Honor to
whom honor is due."

Mr. WooLVERTON. — I am glad to make the statement here that the Ontario
fruit-grower is doing something in refei-ence to Eussian fruits. We have had some
correspondence with an eminent Bussian authority, and we are expecting to
receive from him a large box of some fifty varieties of specially valuable Russian
apples, and these are to be carefully tested, both by our members and at the Experi-
mental Farm here at Ottawa, and we are very hopeful thai; some excellent results
will come from these experiments. As soon as we have sufficient varieties we will
distribute them among our members, and of those that we have not a sufficient
quantity to go lound the}' will be tested at the Experimental Farm. We are
sending a consignment of our hardier fruit trees in return.

Mr. Frankland. — From what part of Russia are these coming, and are they
most suitable for the severe parts of the Dominion ?

Mr. WooLVERTON.— They are being collected from all parts of Russia. They
are being collected by a Government officer, so that we shall have them from all
parts.

Mr. Allan. — The consignment will include not only apples, but pears and cher-
ries as well ?

Mr. WooLVERTON. — Yes ; and Russian apiicots, too.

Mr. Shepherd. — The question raised is a very important one. To meet the
wants of Manitoba and the Xorth-West we must look to the Russian varieties. We
must get the best of apples from northern Russia. My experience with tb ) Russian
varieties is that the quality is not what tliej- ought to be and what we expect. I do
not think that they can compare with oiir Canadian apjjles in quality. Mr. Fisk
has not mentioned the Switzer, which is the only apple, I think, of good quality.
It is not the best, but it is a good apple, and corresponds with the St. Lawrence, and
looks something like the Fameuse. It bears heavily, and is very hardy. The Yellow
Transparent I do not think will pay uato grow.

Mr. Allan.— Referring to that point. "my belief is this: That the value of the
Russian varieties is going to be only in the colder sections, To many of us, who
live in the most favoured sections of Canada, the Russian varieties will be of little or
no value, because of their poor quality, generally. In the colder sections they will
do bettei-, and it is for this reason 'that the test is being made. I believe, even in
the colder sections, although some of the fruit-growers think they are going to
supply their own market, J do not think it is jwssible. The time may come when
they will supply their own markets with early apples, but the real test of these
varieties will not be reliable until you bring them right into bearing. It may be a
hardy tree up to bearing, and then may not be hardy, because theVe is a drain on
the tree in the bearing. No time is allowed for the tree to recuperate from the
strain of bearing before the cohl weather comes right in.

Mr. Brodie.— My experience with the Yellow Transpaient is different from Mr.
Shepherd's. I have marketed them two years in succession, and averaged $5 a
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Mr. Weight. — How does the Yellow Transparent compare with the Red
Astrachan ?

Mr. Brodie. — I began selling the Yellow Transparent in the last week in July.

Ml'. Shepherd — I could never understand how the Yellow Transparent got Jie
reputation of being an extremely early fruit. I never saw one on the 28th July tit
to be sent to market at that time.

Mr. Brodie — Ttiey are ear-ly, like the Eed Astrachan. There is a demand for
cooking apples at that season, and they seem to meet the demand. When wc get S5
a barrel foi- thorn I think that is a pretty good test.

Mr. Henry — With i-egaid to the Switzcr, it is quite as hardy a tree as the
Yellow Transparent; its season is late in the fall, and the appearance of the apple is
a beautiful <me. It has a freshness about it, and it is quite solid.

Mr. Harrison — With regard to the possibility of Eussian fruits in the Xorth-
West, unfortunately I have not been able to verify my opinion, but I have heard on
reliable authority from several sources that there is near Pilot Butte a small planta-
tion of JRussian apples which have been bearing fruit regularly tor several years. I
know that in our neighbourhood there ai-e two or three apple trees which have been
planted, and 1 think it is simply owing to the bad cultivation that they have been
cut down 3'ear after year. If they had been properly planted and treated I see no
rea.son whatever why they should not do as well as the apples at Pilot Butte.

The Convention took recess until afternoon.

Thursday Afternoon.

The President. — Before asking for the papers this afternoon, there are one or
two other matters that call for our attention. A question has been presented which
it is desired should be answered, so that the parties asking it should obtain an
authoritative decision ^ro or t'on on this point. The question is one that has been
frequently asked and involves a matter of import duty. It is: "What are toma-
toes-fi'uit or vegetables?" There are two points of view fiom which we can regard
that question. Scientifically speaking, the tomatoe is a fruit. There is no doubt
about that. Commercially speaking, however, the toni.itoe is usually regarded as a
vegetable. The question is, of course, being asked by the President of the Canadian
Canned Goods Association just where the line is to be drawn. They would like very
much to have tomatoes classed as fi-uit ; but I will ask for some expression of
opinion, and we may enter it upon oui- records as an authoritative decision.

Mr. W. Boulter, Picton, Ont. — As th'j one who asked that question, I may say
that we, as packers, feel it would be a good time at this convention of Dominion
Fi'uit Growers' to definitely decide upon this matter. As you have justly stated, this
matter att'ects us very much with i-olation to the tariff'. The question has also been
asked with respect to apples: Is an apple really a fruit all through, when it is
picked or when it has gone through the hermetically sealed process, as in canning
fruits ? The tomatoe has always been looked upon at first thought as a fruit. Com-
mercially, as you stated, would it be changed by any process that it may be sub-
mitted to in the ordinary hermetically sealing method. This association, composed
as it is of the leading fruit growers of Canada, and one that we should look up to
with a certain degree of respect, may properly be appealed to on this question. Our
interests are identical, and 1 should like this association to come to a definite con-
rlusion. As many of you know, we ai-e interested here in regard to the operations
<)f the present/tariff'. We, as packers, are interested in that matter as well, and if this
association should decide that the tomatoe is different from what has been sup-
posed it would make a material difference with regard to the eff'ect of the tariff' upon
our business.

Mr. Starr.— This question came up before the Xova Scotia Fruit Growers'
Association a few years ago, in connection with our fail', ami the decision then
arrived at satisfied some of the exhibitors. The decision was to class as fruit such
of the family as tomatoes, melons and cucumbers as were eaten raw. It was a line
drawn on that basis, to class j(s fruits sucJi as were placed on the table.

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Prof. Saunders. — This question is important when looked at from the stand-
point of the duty, because if a tomatoe were a fruit it would come in free, and as a
vegetable it would be chargeable for duty. It has always appeared to me, while
there is no question about the tomatoe being botanically a fruit, that commercially it
is a vegetable, for the reason that a very large proportion of the tomatoes are used
cooked. I think there are comparatively few eaten raw, and even if there wei-e, I
scarcely think wei could regard them commercially in any other sense than as a
vegetable. If we class tomatoes as fruit, we must class cucumbers, squashes, and a
number of other things ordinarily used as vegetables in the same waj'. I think it
would be unwise on the part of this convention to take any action that would look
like straining a point in tne way of bringing in as fruit an article that would not be
regarded by the ordinary public in any other light than as a vegetable.

The Prksident. — When the prize list was being made out by the Executive
Committee this very point was under discussion, anil we took the ground then that
according to the use that was usually made of it a tomatoe must be regarded as a
vegetable. Hence it was excluded from the prize list.

3Ir. Dempsey. — I have seen persons using potatoes as vegetables, and under the
same head they would be counted as fruit.

Ml". Graham. — Is there not one variety of tomatoe used specially for preserving
purposes ?

3Ir. BucKE. — I think the Solanum has always been classed as a fruit.

Prof. Saunders. — That tomatoe. however, is too small for cooking purposes. It
would be too troublesome to handle, but it must come in under the general head of
vegetable, although usually eaten in the raw state.

The President. — I think we might decide the question one way or the other,
for the sake of the parties interested.

Prof. Saunders. — To facilitate matters, I would move: "That in the opinion
of this convenL'On tomatoes, although botanically a fruit, should be regarded, on
account of the uses to which they are put, as vegetables."

Mr. Dempsey seconded this resolution, and it was adopted.

ORGANIZATION.

Mr. P. C. Dempsey. — It has occuned to me that it is very necessary this con-
vention should be changed into a Dominion Association — the Dominion Association
of Fruit Growers— and thei-efore I would move, without saying anything further,
that a committee on permanent organization be appointed to consider this matter
and to report to-morrow morning.

Mr. Brodie secondetl the resolution.

After a short discussion this motion was adopted.

Plant Parasites, with special reference to those affecting the Grape, by
Prof. J. Hoyes Panton, M.A., F.G.S., Ontario Agricultural College, GuelpL

Mr. President and Gentlemen,— I am much pleased to have the opportunity of
standing before you this afternoon, and for a short time trying to interest you. and
to some extent instruct you, along the line of obscure plant lite. I was very much
pleased with the remarks of the Hon. Minister of Agriculture yesterday afternoon,
when he said that he hoped the time was not far distant when he Avould hear more
of agricultural science in the schools. The plan he suggested of having a talk once
or twice in the week, say an hour spent for that purpose, I think was a most
enjoyable one. The great difficulty at the present time is to have teachers that are
able to do that ; but I believe that difficulty will, to a considerable extent, soon be
obviated. I know that there will be a text book on Agricultural Science soon in the
common schools of Ontario, for it is now in press. When the teachers get that, and
make this subject one of study, I can scarcely realize anything more interesting to a
band of scholars than that a teacher for a portion of an afternoon take up and discuss
some subject along the line of agricultural science. I am here to-day to give a talk
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address a number of scholars. Of course, I may be permitted, before such an
intelligent class of men as are here, to be a little mote technical than I would be if I
were addressing pupils of say 12 to 15 yeai-s of age : but even before you, I shall trv
to escape being too technical for I believe, that has been the great trouble in the
past in relation to the teaching of science. Men that have undertaken it have paid
too much attention to the incomprehensible technical terms sometimes used, so that
students and the public are apt to go away thinking that science can only be studied
by those who make it a special work. Now the subject that you have set apart for
me to discuss is one that until within the last few years very little was known of.
But the discovery of the miscroscope and afterwards the simplyifying of the manu-
facture of it has placed it within the power of nearly all persons to be able to possess
such an instrument. In fact, you can get a miscroscope now for some $17 or $18
that will magnify up to 600 diameters. This is a high power, and will show all the
things and far more than what I intend to speak about this afternoon. Here, at the
very outset, let us try and locate where these plants are in the plant kingtlom. When
we look abroad we find there are two great classes of plants. There is a class that
flowers and a class that does not. With those that flower we are all familiar ; but
it is of these obscure forms which do not flower that a great many persons are ignor-
ant, and up to the last few years even botanists pushed them aside,
saying that tlieir life history was too complicated for the ordinary
student. But now, you will find that the study of these obscure forms
is becoming far more atti-active to the students of plant lifpi I know in my
experience as a teacher of science there is no subject that the student likes to hear
discussed with better relish than what relates to the fungi or these forms of flower-
less plants. Among these flowerless plants you find such forms as the ferns, the
mosses and the sea weeds, and what 1 have called here the fungi. The fungi, then,
belong to the flowei-less plants. What makes the great difference between the flow-
ering and the flowerless plants, aside from the great external characteristics that
present themselves the moment you look at them, is this fact: that the flowering
plant arises from seeds, while the flowerless plant rises from spores. Now, what is
the difference between a seed and a spore ? Here (pointing to the diagram) I
have outlined some figures to show that difference. A seed, as a general
thing, is large. It is readily seen with the naked eye. It has a distinct covering,
and contains an embryo — a miniature plant. Sometimes the covering is very thick
and much developed, but when the seed is surrounded bv proper conditions it will
grow and develop, and finally become a plant like that which bore it. Then, again,
when it commences to grow, it always grows from a particular part. You would
nf)t find it growing in this seed of wheat at one end and in another seed at the
other ; but in all the grains of wheat you find that the tiny rootlet, the radicle, will
start from a particular end. When it grows it assumes that form of plant life that
we are all familiar with, bearing leaves and stalks, and green colouring matter. Now
let us look at the spore. In the first place, you cannot see it. We have to get art to
give us help here, and by means of a microscope we see this tiny microscopic thing
called a spore. The protoplasm is surrounded by a very thin membrane. We do
not find a thick case there as an extenial covering. Sometimes it is naked, and is
then merely a clump of protoplasm (a jelly-like substance, the physical basis of life).
We find when we look into it no embryo, as Ave see in the seed. When it begins to
lii'ow you cannot tell where it is going to grow from. It may be on the right side
or left side, or underside or the upper side. There is no definite point of growth, as
in the ease of a seed. Then, having germinated it begins to develop a peculiar
series of thread-like structures. As it grows the difference between it and a flower-
ing plant widens, just as much as the mushroom widens from the rose, the rust on
wheat from the plant upon which it grows. So you have these four points of dis-
tinction between a seed and a spore: the seed large, with a good covering, with an
embryo, and growing from a distinct part ; the spore minute, thin covering, no
embryo, and indefinite growth. When we consider these fungi — this gi-oat compre-
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are entirely different from all others. They do not possess green coloring matter —
this fact shows they must feed in an entirely different way from the plants that have
green colouring matter. The plants with green colouring matter can take in gases from
the atinosphere,and from them elahoi'ate products for their nourisiiment ; or their roots
going down into the soil absorb substances, and from dead inorganic matter work up
compounds of a more or less complex nature. The fungi cannot do that. Having no
green colouring matter they must depend onsomething else to make their food, and their
food, therefore, consists of what we call organic material — that is. something that has
been elaborated by plants before them. Thus, at the very outset we have two classes
of the fungi — those that live on what may be termed dead organic matter, such as the
mushrooms, living in soil very rich in manure, and another class that live on living
matter — on the organized material in living plants, [t is in this class you find the
injurious types of fungi that are to occupy our attention for the remainder of tlie
time. For convenience sake, those that live on dead organic matter have been called
saprophytes and those that live on living matter parasites. I have thought it would
be wise that we should tix our attention on some particular forms of these parasites
and not wander over the whole division of the fungi. Consequently, 1 have taken
those that affect the grape plant. But do you think for a moment that this after-
noon, in half an hour or moie, I could discuss the various forms of parasites in plant
life that affect the grape ? No; for they have made out some 104 species of fungi
that affect the grape. I have just selected three, so that we might focus our
attention upon these and leave the others for future study. The first one is what we
call the Downy Mildew, or, technically, the Peronospora Viticola. Those who prefer
the long name can adopt it, while those who prefer the simpler can call it the Downy
Mildew. Let us look into the life history of that and see what a complicated thing
it is. At a certain season of the year — in the summer months — in June
or thereabouts, you may notice on the upper side of the leaves of
the grape yellowish spots, having a sort of downy, white-like appearance.
This is all you can see, but if you should place a thin section of this
downy-looking spot under a microscope you then find that you have a beautiful
little plant. Everyone of those clusters of wooly-like structure are masses of little
plants. That is what is called the peronospora. and it is closely allied with the
parasite that causes the potatoe rot, both belonging to the same genus until lately.
There is a slight difference in the shape of the spoi-es, so that latterly the potatoe
rot is put in another genus (Phytophthora) and is not called the peronospora any
longer. Let us look at this diagram before us. The spores fall upon the leaf,
germinate and work their way in between the cells, as represented hei e. Here in
this figure are several cells, and here is one of the threads of this obscure plant
working in between them. Some of these fungi work into the cells, and others
work between. This one works between the cells. Every here and there it throws
out little threads. You can call them roots, but we technically call them Hanstoria.
These dip into the cells and sap the juices of the plant. It is only a question of time
when this parasite that has got into the tissue of the leaves has so exhausted the
plant's vitality as to injure its vigour and finally cause its death. Now, after it has
permeated between the cells and reached a considerable growth at the little openings
that are found in the leaves— the openings we call Stomata— it throws up its fruit
bearing branches that you see. This is one of the Stomata. Here coming up are
five or six little structures and on these a sort of fruit-like ai-rangement. That is
the fruit-bearing jiortion of the plant. In the potatoe rot you would only have one
stem, while in this Peronospora you have sometimes four and five, and even eight.
Let us look at that. It may affect the leaf, or it may affect the green twigs, or it
may affect the fruit. Here is some fruit that has been affected. That is drawn and
enlarged somewhat from natui-e. Here you have some of the fruit intact and some
that is affected. Here is what we might have expected if it had not been attacked
by this parasite. On the upper branches of this fruit-bearing portion of the plant
you see a sort of oval-like structures. These are what we would call the spor"s
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tlie tiftieth part of an inch in length, while the little spores or re-productive part will
be about the two-thousandeth part of an inch. It is exceedingly minute. Now, let us
follow the history further. These drop, after they have reached the mature condition.
One is generally called a Conidium while many are called Conidia. After it has fallen on
a leaf or some other part of a plant, if the conditions are favourable it will pursue
further development; but if the conditions are not there it will get no further.
Xow, what are the conditions? For this genus, in the fungi, they are moisture and
warmth. It wants a good deal of moisture. If there is no water present the spore
is not going to be able to develop. It is not merely a little moisture, but something
that these spores can float in. After it has rested awhile it begins to divide up, as
you see in the drawing. Shortly after that these break out of this sort of structure
and assume that form — a little rounded body with a couple of tails. Then this
rounded body begins to move; the hair-like structuies help it to move about, and if
there is no water present that is not sufficient moisture to work in, it can go no
further in its development. So you see how necessary it is for this form to have
moisture and warm temperature. If the conditions are favourable and ^hey are able
to spin about, these little spores, technically called Zoospores, drop their tails and
a8^sume that form. Then it throws out a sort of tube, and you have the whole thing
starting into growth. If it is upon the leaf or fruit, or anj'' part, it will grow and
develop into the plant we have already seen. But here is something peculiar — we
notice there are no less than three ways in which this Conidium can develop. One
way I have described, and the second way is represented here, where the whole of
the contents pushes out and commences to develop in the way you see in these two
figures. It does not break up into five or six parts, but it comes out and assumes
this form and developes. Another form is where the whole of the protoplasm, the
whole of the matter in the Conidium, comes out into the form of a tube and permeates
the tissue of the plant, and repeats the life history of the fungus, as I have already
described. So, from a Conidium yon have three different ways in which it may
develop itself: but the most common way is the one that I htave de ^.ribed some-
what minutely at the beginning. Now is that all ? That explains the development
of it through the growing season, and that form of development is very rapid, so
that the fungus soon spreads [over a very large area. But there is another foi-ra of
development. In among the tissiies of the plant you will find some of the rounded
bodies such as you see there. I do not like to mention the technical names, yet it
seems to be almost necessary and not out of the way before intelligent men. It is here
called Oogonium and the other organ Anthcrridium. The protoplasm of the one
mingles with that of the other and you have a germ cell produced — another form of
reproduction altogether.

The form I described at fii-st when referring to spores is termed a sexual and
what I have described now fAe 6'e.TMaZ. This latter form carries the plant into an-
other year : the other is a form for rapid propagation. Hero is a section and these
little black spots are the Oospoies, or germ cells, prepared for growth next si)ring
or summer. So much for the life history of the Peronospora viticola. Xow, the
question of greatest importance to you is how to tight against it. I cannot help but
think there is a great deal of interest in knowing the life hi-story of these parasites.
It is very well to know how to kill it. but when a person knows all the outs and ins
of the complicated history of these obscure forms of life it givea an interest to his
labour which he otherwise could not possess. How are we going to battle against it ?
Many remedies have been tried and some of ihem have been successful. This fun-
gus is in the tissues of the plant, so that you are not very well able to get at it.
Consequently, whatever ('.ourso you may pursue, it must be along the line of ])reven-
tion rather than cure. You must prevent it rather than fight it when it lias got
there. On general principles the remedy for all those things is to have the phint
vigoui'ous. Vigour in a plant, as in the animal and in the human being, has a wonder-
ful power to resist the attacks of disease of any kind. So on general principles Ave
always speak of trying to have the plant a^- vigorous as possible. It has been found
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of lime — or what is more comiiionly known as lime water, syringed upon the plant at
the time you think these spores are making their appearance it will nave a tendency
to diminish their numbers. It has also been found tliat the use of sulphate of copper
is productive of excellent results — either taking sulphate of copper alone, or it is
particularly oftbctivo if it has lime with it. In that mixed form it seems to be pro-
iluctivo of very satisfactory results. We combat them, therefore, by the use of
lime or by the use of sulphate of copper and limo. Of course, one would take the
precaution to remove all leaves that may be lying around and deca^'ed fruit that
has resulted fj-om the attacks of the spores and have them destroyed ; because thej'
are carrying these spores in them. By adopting these remedies the injurious
eifects of this fungus may be greatly prevented, — that is, the application of hydrate
of lime at the proper season of the year, the application of sulphate of copper and
lime, the application of sulphate of iron, lime and sulphur, the removal of affected
parts, and having varieties of plants that are not found to be liable to attack.

Let us now look at No. 2. We have Avhat is called the Powdery Mildew, or
what is technically termed Uncinula Spiralis, an entirely different fungus. Here
you have a fungus that has quite a different form of reproduction for the propaga-
tion of the species. We have types of the fungi here well worthy of our consider-
tion, because they appear on other plants as well. In the tirst place, this is not in
the plant. It is on the plant; it is on the leaf, on the outside. It does not get into
the leaf like the tirst did, or get in among the tissues among the cells, and shove its
little thread-like structures into them, permeating the whole leaf and affecting it
until it is destroyed. Here j'ou have the spore falling on the leaf and gi-owing as it
were on the outside, and throwing down little sucker-like arrangements into the
leaf and feeding upon its tissue. These spots when they tirst appear have a sort of
greyish look. They have not the clear, white look that you see in the Downy
Mildew. But as the time rolls on the plant has its vitality greatly impaired. What
has happened ? Some of these spores have got on to the plant, and as soon as they
have rooted it grows in stalk-like form, not in the pretty tree-like structure that you
saw in the other mildew; not coming up through the holes in the stomata, but
groAving from the surface, and the end of the stalks become somewhat contracted,
taking a sort of oval shape. One drops off and then another, and so on. That is
one form in which these reproduce thc.nselves. A little fui-ther on in the life
history of the fungus where two oi ..hes > threads happen to overlap they begin
there to form a jieouliar structure — a sort of nut-like foi-m. If you open up that
seod-!)ko I'odyyoi: will tiivj irsido. of it .striii ttii-es as mo heva represented rolling
ouc. Jr.siao of U\qsc aie in.aura.acable spores. Vou see it is quik. a .iillerent ;iTowrft
from the former. The tirst is a form of spore that is produced during theeavU.r
seasons of the year to cai-ry on the rapid growth of the plant. The last is a little
later on, and is to carry the trouble into another year. In this centre you have the
peculiar flask-like bodies that I described, containing spores. The former may be
termed a sexuul form, and the latter the sexy,al. How are we going to combat
against this ? Those who have made it a special study have found that thei-e are
certain chemicals that have a very desirable effect. One of these is sulphur. When
sulphur is thrown over the leaf it has a tendency to destroy the vitality of these
spores and to keep them in check. Not only "sulphur, but they find that this
sulphate of copper and lime is very productive of good results. To some extent
also, suljihate of iron. So there are three chemicals that have been productive of
good results in the case of this Powdery Mildew. Sulphur alone, or lime and
sulphate of copper, or sulphate of iron. Then, again, the same remedy would come
in here of destroying everything that you might imagine was affected with these
spores.

We now come to our third type, Laestadia Bidwellii, or what is known as the
black rot in grapes. This attacks more especially the fruit. Theothers may attack
the leaves or the young shoots or the fruit, and generally the small fruit ; but this
comes on after the fruit has got about tv^o-thirdjHs size, and the rx^sult is that it has
a very injurious effect. Let us look into the life history of this. Here is an affected

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brunch or cluHter, showing grapes that have been destroyed or iiijiirod by its attacks,
as well us those that have escaped to a certain extent. It is found that atone season
of the year, usually the spring, a class of spores appears ; when the tissuo of the
grape is examined at this time we tind short, thread-like stnictuivs rising, the ends of
them becoming more or less contracted and finally dropping off. But there is another
form: on the grapes you find blackish pimples forming at times, and the grape
becomes more or less shrivelled. If you examine these ))imples you will find that
there are two classes of couceptacles or cavities in them. Here I have them repre-
sented as Nos. 1 and 2, When you look into No. 1 closely you will tind a sort of
thread-like structures, which, as they advance in growth, by-and-by give rise to these
little rounded bodies. These are the spores, and there is u little opening here. They
roll out, and when they reach a proj)er condition, give rise to fungUH. You have
receptacles here as in No. 2. They give rise to thread-like structures that develop
into another class of spores. Sometimes these have a peculiar form. Little rounded
l>odies uppcur on the grape and issuing from them comes a sort of thread-like mass
of these spores. They come squirming out like so many worms. Further on you
find another class of spores in these somewhat largo cavities ; these bodies are some-
what flask-shaped. Inside of them aie eight or nine spoi-es and when these l)reak up
they give rise to the spores you see represented in that figure. In this black rot you
tind there are no loss than four kinds of spores known as Stylospores, Spennatia,
(Jonidia and Sporidia oi Ascospores. The two last forms of fungi belong to the same
group as the plum knot on the plum tree. This black rot presents an exceedingly
complicated life history indeed. Here you find the threads rising from these spores
becoming interlaced. They dive into the cells, not, as up here, between the colls, and
they are more or less interlaced. The thread-like structures have divisions, not as
here where you had a long thread-like structure without division. Now, having
looked into the life history of Laestadia BidwelUi, what remedy can be pursued ? It
has been found that sulphate of iron has a good effect. It is when the grape has got
about two-thirds its size before the attack is made; taking advantage of this, many
have followed the plan of bagging the grapes — that is, putting bags, usually of paper,
about them. Those keep the spores off, and by that means the disease is avoided.
Whenever grapes are aftected destroy them as far as possible.

We have now discussed three of the most common and most injurious parasites
that affect the grape plant. I do not think it is necessary for me to go any further
into the subject ; youf attention has been very close and to me the task has been
pleasant, t have referred to the division into flowering and flowerloss plants, the
diffei-onco between seeds and spores, the two great typos of fungi, those that live on
dead and those that live on living matter, and then fully discussed these three living
forms illustrated by the largo diagrams before you, and I hope I have succeeded in
luafai,;;- tho subjects clear, interesting, instructive and practical. (Applause.)

Til- "lt:.N,jy>BNT. — I think I am expressing the sentiments of this meeting when
I say wc are' greatJy indebted to Prof. Panton for tho extremely lucid way he
has explained this most ditticult :>nd most intricate subject. It is a question of the
gi'oatest importance to fruit growers, and it is one that is deserving of a very large
attention on tho part, not only of the fruit growei-s themselves, but those who are
officially interested in pi-omoting the industry. I hope there will be a good discus-
sion on this paper.

Ml-. WooLVERTON. — [ found during the last summer some specimens of grapes
affected with a very similar fungus to the last one described. The grapes, however,
instead of being black, were brown, and I believe it is known as tho brown rot on
the grape. 8onie samples from the Province of Quebec were sent to me, and perhaps
Prof. Panton could say a word with regard to that. I do not know of its being
found in any part of Southern Ontario. Indeed, I do not think we have either black
or brown rot to any extent in our section of tho country.

Pi-of Panton. — It has not come under my observation.

Mr. WooLVERTON. — I may say that the powdery mildew io quite common with
iis in the Niagara district. This last season it was very injurious. It has had a very

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injurious effect on our vineyardw, but wo are mcctinif it with a good deal of success
l>y the tVoo use of Hiilphur that Prof. I'unton has just rocominondtMl. We have used
it quite fr«'olv and very largely in some of the vineyards, and with a considerable
amount of Hiiccess. Quite early in the season the tirst application is made and it is
repeated during the season. It was found to be very etfective when the sun is
shining upon the plant, as then the fumes of sulphur will rise more readily and have
the etfect of destnn'ing the fungus.

Mr. IJucKE. — flow did you apply it?

Mr. WooLVERTON. — It was scattered over the vines or underneath thorn. I be-
lieve it is sufficient if sown freely on the ground underneath the vines. The sulphu-
rous acid, as I believe it is, will rise in sufficient quantities to destroy the fungus.
We apply it freely with the hands. I believe that when the temperature is above 77
degrees that the sulphur is then found to bo most effective. We are not affected
to any extent with downy mildew — at all events, 1 have not observed it in Southern
Ontario.

Mr. Brodie. — Has any one used the Bordeaux mixture?

r..>f. Panton. — That is the mixture of lime and sulphate of copper.
lilr. Fletcher. — Have you tried spraying sulphur on the vine?
Mr. WooLVERTON. — No ; I have not.

The Kelation of Insects to Fruit Culture, by Eev. Tho.mas W. Fyles, South

Quebec.

The subject of the relation of insects to fruit culture is worthy the consideration
both of fruit-growers and entomologists. It presents a vast field for research. The
more I have studied it the more its significance has widened before me, and the
more conscious I have become of my inability to deal with it adequately.

Many persons regard insects simply as " bugs," in the original acceptation of
the term, i. e. tenors, and terrors to be, if possible, relentlessly and expeditiously
put out of the way. Such persons ai-e under a great misappi-ehension. Probably
there is no kind of insect but will be found to perform a useful part in the system of
nature broadly viewed; though to the fruit-grower some kinds are inimical.

Insects seen from the fruit-grower's point f)f view may be grouped into five
classes :

I. Insects favourable to fruif>culture.
II. Insects directly hurtful.

III. Doubtful and neutral insects.

IV. Insects directly benefical.
V. Insects indirectly injurious.

Of insects directly favourable to fruit-culture, various kinds of bees are among
the most note-worthy. Thoy predominate in the crowd of insect forms, with which,
on sunny days, a fruit-tree in full blossom is ehiivened.

The purposes for which the bee frequents the blossoms ai-e the gratifi ition of
its own appetite with the sweet exudations from the nectaries, iind tl obtuimiig of
a supply of pollen or bee-bread for the use of the larvie of its '^

But while the bee is oarrj'ing out its own ends, it is hel
that all-important process, the fertilization of the flowers,
comjianying diagram of a simple hermaphrodite flower will m, v'
this respect is accomplished.

At A is shown the stigma of the blossom; at BB dehiscing aiuhers charged
with pollen-grains ; at CO the nectaries. A bee working amongst the flowers comes,
dusted over with pollen-grains, to a particular blossom. To got at the nectary C, it
has to thrust itself between the stigma A and the anther B. In so doing some' of
the pollen-grains with which it was covered are tran:ifoi'rod to th > viscid surface of
the stigma, where they adhere. After lapping up the supply of nectar from C, the
bee quits the blossom, carrying away a fresh supply of pollen from B. From' the
abundance of this, other blossoms are fecundated. At intervals the insect pauses,

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and passes its lotjs over Us body to collect tlie still adhering pollen-f^mins. These
it proceeds to pack into the hollow shanks of its hin<l leys, the corbnlae or baskets
with which nature has provided it, that it may bo able to convey its plunder to the
hive.

The bodies of bees are particularly fitted up for the conveyencc of pollen from
flower to flower, for they are clothed with short, bristly hair, which has a marked
sot towards the point of the abdomen. In backing out from the flower a bee can
hardly fail to dislodge the ripened pollen-grains, and retain them until they are
brought in contact with the viscid surface of a stigma, or are swept otf by the stouter
bristles with which the legs of the insect are provided.

The further history of the pollen-grains left adhering to the stigma is this:
In a short time they begin, by a sort of germination, to extend minute tubes down
the style D, along the walls of tlie ovule K, through the micropj'lo F, into the em-
bryo-sac, where they mingle their contents with those of the oosphore, and complete
the fertilization of the flower.

The importance of this cross-fertilization of the blossoms, brought about by the
agency of the bees, is beyond all human estimation. It was a saying of Darwin
that 'nature abhors selt-ferlilization; ' and certainly observation has taught us that
cross-fertilization results in a supply of better fruit, and, eventually, in the produc-
tion of more vigorous plants, than results from the self-fertilization of a plant by its
own pollen.

liy a natural law or instinct which we cannot understand, but the effects of
which in the movements of the bee we observe, this cross-fertilization is kept within
bounds. A bee on an expedition in search of nectar and pollen confines its atten-
tion, for the time being, to the flowers of one kind of plants; and an observer, stand-
ing by a bee-hive, will see the bees entering, some with pellets of yellow, and some
with pellets of orange-red, but never any with a mixture of the three.

In the case of plants bearing unisexual flowers such as Cucumis, no doubt the
chief moans for the fertilization of the female flowers is the agency of bees. Indeed,
when melons arc forced under glass, :ind the blossoms are bi'ought to perfection
before bees are on the wing, artificial m.^ans have to be i-esorted to for impregnating
the female blossoms.

The various kinds of pollen-collecting bees, therefore, — /Ipi.s mellifiea, Drury;
Bombus terricola, Kirby ; B. Pemist/lranicus, De Geer, B. feroidus' Fabricius ; B.
fernarim, Say, &c., are among the fruit-growers' most persistivo and valuable insect-
friends.

Next to the various species of bees that we have alluded to as friends of the
fruit-grower come many of those large and beautiful insects called "hummingbird
moths," or " hawk moths." The hawk-moth, of whatsoever species, is provided with
n long proboscis, which, when not in use, is curled up like a watch-spring, and hidden
between the palpi ; but, when the insect is engaged in taking food, is extended to
its full length, and thrust among the filaments of the blossoms. By the disturbance
of the anthers in the play of this organ, and by the rapid fanning of .he wide-spread
wings of the moth as it hovers over the blossoms, the pollen-grains are scattered all
around, and cross-fertilization results.

A fruit-tree in full blossom does indeed present a busy and interesting scene.
The honey-bees are there in full force ; numerous large females of the various species
of humble-bees hurry hithor and thither— at this early season there are no males
nor small females of their kinds — and dancing over the blossoms with easy flight are
the clear-winged humming-bird moths, Hemaris Thysbe (Fabr.) and H. tenuis (Grote),
and, here and there, Amphion Nessiis (Cramer), with its rich brown dress and golden
belts. The air is made vocal by the wings of the busy multitude ; the tree itself
blushes with the rich promise of future good ; and the whole scene is one that may-
well gladden the heart of the beholder.

As night draAvs on the bees and other diurnal insects retire; but many species
of noctuids come forth from their retreats, to enjoy the banquet that the opea
flowei-8 afford them.

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II. But while many of the insect tribes may be ranked as the fruitgrowers'
friends, it must be allowed that the operations of others run directly counter to his
interests.

For our present purpose, we may divide these injurious insects into —

a. Leafeaters.

b. Borers.

c. Sap-drainers.

d. Fruit-spoilers.

if. Of loaf-eating insects the kinds most to be dreaded are, 1 believe, those small
but most mischievous kinds that are known as bud moths, leaf-crumplers, leaf-rollers,
palmer worms, &c. Among the worst of them are : —

Ime.tocera ocellana (Schiff). The larva of this eats the flower buds and young
fruit. It is of a dirty brown colour, and is three-quarters of an inch long whpn full
grown. The moth is grey with white bands on the fore-wings, and in expanse of
wings measures half an inch. It belongs to the Tortricina.

Phycis indiginella (Zeller). The caterpillar of this is known as the " leaf
crumpler." To comes late in the sumrner, and passes the winter in a case made of
crumpled leaves drawn together with silken threads. In early spring it comes forth
to devoui" the tender buds and complete its growth. It is a little over half an inch
long, of a greenish colour, and has u horny plate on the second segment. Its head
is brown. The moth is a pretty object, having silvery whitf v,-iiigs with brown zig-
zag markings. It belongs to the Tineina, as the diminutive aifix to its name implies.

Caccecia rosaceana (Harris). The obliquo banded loaf-roller is one of the worst
of these small moths. The perfect insect has the outline of a lyre or a bell. It is
cinnamon coloured, and is marked obliquely on the lore wings with three brown
bands. The caterpillar is about three-quarters of an inch long, pale green in colour,
with a brown head. It works sad destruction, gathei-ing the young leaves together,
and tangling up the flower buds and preventing them from unfolding. It even
gnaws the young fruit.

Teras malhorana (Le Baron). The lesser leaf folder is a pretty little moth
belonging to the Toi-tricina. The fore part of the body and the fore wings are
bright yellow; the after part of the body and hind wings are whitish. It measures
half an inch when the wings are expanded. The larva is light green and has a
brown head. It curls the leaf up and fastens the edges together to make itself a
shelter.

Ypsolophus jyometellus (Harris). "The Palmer worm" is at times very injur-
ious. It is a social caterpillar, living with its fellows in a tent made of the leaves of
a twig drawn together. The worm is pale yellowish green, with a darker dorsal
line and side lines. The latter are edged above with white. It eats away .the fleshy
portions of the leaves. The moth is variable, but generally is ash grey dotted with
black. The hind wings are glossy and slightlj' shot with blue.

In dealing with all these insects and wi*h others of similar habits promptitude
is the sccrt^t of success. As soon as ever the leaf buds begin to open Paris green
should be applied by means of a sprinkler; and after the fruit is well set a second
sprinkling may be given. Care should always be taken not to overdose the trees.
In autumn the dead leaves in the orchard may be raked up and burned — that hidden
pupa> may be destroyed.

Of the grosser feeders in the orchard one of the most common is Clisiocampa
Americana (Harris) ; but this is easily dealt with. In the winter the egg-masses of
the species may be detected and dislodged with the thumb-nail. They should then
be burned. Some of the masses will perhaps escape notice, and the unsightly webs,
spun by the caterpillars, in course of time appear. The fruit grower, provided with
a stick having a slight but stitf crotch or fork at one end, should go" in the early
morning when the dew is heavy— for at such times the caterpillars are all within
the shelter of their web— and should thurst the crotch into the mass ; then, by turn-
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with its burden, and trodden under foot. This must be done early in the season,
both to save the trees and prevent the escape of the insects — for the larvaj after a
while abandon their web and scatter.

The communities of the forest-tree tent-caterpillaar, Clisiocampa sylvatica
(Harris), which sometimes are found on fruit-trees, form their webs on the boles or
under the main limbs of the trees, and when assembled in their webs, or when on
one of their processionary tours, may be crushed by means of a stout lath, or
brushed over with any kind of cheap oil, which, spreading over their bodies, will
choke the spiracles, and destroy the caterpillars expeditiously.

The nests of the Fall Web-worm, Hyphantria textor (Harris) should be cut out
with pruning shears, or with a hooked knife tied to a pole, and destroyed.

The black and yellow striped caterpillars of Batana ministra (Drury), which,
when disturbed, have the habit of throwing up the fore and hindmost parts of their
bodies into a sort of precatory attitude, and the red-humped caterpillars of
Oedemasia concinna (Abbot and Smith) are found in their early stages grouped on a
few leaves. Like choice fruit, they should be carefully hand-picked and safely
stowed away.

There are certain species of the Noctuids, the larva) of which are known by the
name of the " Climbing Cut -Worms." Among them are Agrotis clandestina (Harris),
A. Cochranii (Eiley), A. scandens (Riley), and A. saucia (Hubner). They are capable
of doing much mischief to young trees. They lie hid in the ground by day, and
climb the trees at night. They pass from tree to tree over the sui-face of the
ground. To guard his corn, etc., from the attacks of such insects as these, the
farmer draws the light soil into a hill about the plants, for the worms cannot ascend
the crumbly mounds ; and a few shovels-full of light earth piled around the foot of
each young fruit tree will save it from the cut-worms.

b. Our second group of injurious insects consists of the borers. The insect that
is distinguished above the rest as the Borer is the grub of a beetle, Saperda Candida
(Fabricids). It is sometimes called the "Round-headed Borer." Its large head is
given it for a puri)0se — in boring, if its head will pass there is no danger of its body
being cramped in the mine. The natural food-tree of this insect is the moose-missa or
mountain ash, Pyriis Americana (De Candolle) ; but it feeds with avidity upon the
cultivated species of pyrus. Its presence may bo known bv the fras ejected fi'om
its tunnel. The perfect insect makes its appearance in the beginning of June. Soft
soap applied to the boles of the trees at this season, with a white-wash brush, will
hinder the attacks of the beetle. This application will also stop the attacks of the
Flat-headed Borer of the apple, Chrysobothris femorata (Fabr.), and those of Dicerca
divericata (Say), the borer of the cherry.

Old and decaying apple and peach trees are liable to the attacks of the " Stag-
beetle," iucanw^ dama (Thunh)., the'' Eyed Ehiter," Alans oculattis (Linnrcus), and
the "Rough Osmoderma," Osmodcrma scabra (Beauv). These but hasten the fall of
the trees.

Of other borers the /Egerians are often very destructive. uEgeria pyri (Harris)
attacks the pear-tree ; yE. exitiosa (Say), the peach-ti-ee ; uiE. polistiformis (Harris), the
grape-vine; ^. rxibi (Riley), the raspbeny cane; and Ji. tipuliformis (Linnteus), the
currant-bush. The imagos of all these insects fly in the day time in the summer
months, and haunt the food plahts of their species. An intelligent child may be
readily taught to distinguish them, and to capture them with a butterfly-net.

c. Sap-drainers. — The most formidable of these, in appearance, are the Cicadas,
C. tibicen (Linn), and C. septendecim (Linn). The kinds may be readily distinguished
one from the other — in the former the eyes and the edges of the fore-wings are
green ; in the latter, orange-red. G. tibicen is sometimes found at the roots of the
cherry, and of the apple, though its food-plant more commonly is the elm. C.
septendecim is found at the roots of the apple. It drives its proboscis into the root
and imbibes the sap, and, it is said, keeps on imbibing it for a period of seventeen
years.

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The apple, the peach, the cherry and the vine have each its peculiar aphis or
plant-louse, which, spreaclin*; with parthenogenitic increase, become exceedingly
injurious. The " honey-dew," which the aphides eject, covers the leaves and chokes
the stomata, or breathing-pores of those organs, and seriously attects the health of
the plant ; whilst the aphides themselves drive their snouts throu<;h the epidermis,
into the parenchyma, and draw away its life-giving juices.

The Phylloxera vastafrix (Planchon) of the vine seems in many parts of Europe
to have triumphed over all efforts made against it. Happily, in America its natural
foes keep it within bounds. One of these foes Diplosis (jrassator (Fyles), I hail the
satisfaction some years ago of mauing known.

d. Fruit-spoilers. — The last of our classes of injurious insects aie the Fruit-
spoilers. Of these the "Codling Moth," Carpocapsa ponionella (Linn.) is one of the
worst. The perfect insect is a small and pretty moth with wavy-lincd, satiny fore-
wings, having a conspicuous bronzy spot at the inner angle. It lays its eggs in the
eyes of the young fruit, preferring the early kinds. The caterpillars eat their way
in, and attain their growth in about three weeks. They the" leave the fruit and
seek sheltered spots — usually crevices in the bark of the tree — in which to spin their
cocoons, and to undergo their pupal change. This habit has suggested a means of
entrapping them. Cloths tied around the stems and main limbs of the trees will
attract the larvjc, which will spin their cocoons within the folds of the cloths.

Anthonomns quadrujibhus (Say,) the curculio of the apple, and Conotrachelus nenuphar
(Herbst), the curculio of the plum, are furnished with long snouts, with which they
bore into the fruit to make receptacles for their eggs. The grubs mine the growing
fruit. The apple curculio undergoes all its changes within the fruit and leaves it as
a perfect insect. The ravages of the plum curculio cause the fruit to fall untimely.
The grub when full-fed bites its way out of the follen fruit, and buries itself in the
soil, there to undergo its pupal change.

To capture the perfect insects the fruit-grower should, at the proper season,
spread a sheet under the tree, and then with a fork-handle, or other stout stick,
administer a sudden sharp blow to each of the overhanging limbs. This will dislodge
the curculios, and they will fall upon the sheet, where they can easily be seen and
secured. Leaf-eating and twig-ginUing beetles, caterpillars, and other troublesome
insects, may be taken in the same way.

III. There are many kinds of caterpillars that eat the leaves of fruit trees, and
yet, under ordinary circumstances, can hardly be said to bo injurious — that is to say
when feeding upon other than very young trees. Many of them feed late in the
summer, and, having done their worst, merely let in, here and there, a little more
light and heat to the growing fruit. Manj- are among the rarest of our insects.
Eupretia stimulia (Clemens), Phobetron pitheciam (Ab. & Sm.), Gastropacha
Americana (Harris), Tolype velleda (StoU), feeding on the apple ti-e'e are all lare.
They are all Bombyces, and the Bombyces do not feed at all in the perfect state.
Whatever good or harm they do to the trees is done while they are in the larval
stage. Liminitis ursula, (Fabr), Thecla titus, (Fabr), Smerinthus cerysH (Kirby)
Callosomia promethea (Drury), feeding on the cherry, are also rare; and so are
Philampelm pandoras (Kuhmv), Thyreus Abbotii (Swalnson), and Beilephila lineata
(Fabr.), feeding on the vine. Even the more common Papilio turnus (Linn.)
Paonias excivcatus (Ab. & Sm.), Platysamia cecropia (Linn.), of the apple ; immif/s
disippus (Godt.), Sphinx drupiferarum (Ab. & fim.),Telea polyphemus (Cramer), and
Catocala ultronia (Hubn.), of the plum; and Philampelm achemon (Drury), of the
vine, are not, as a rule, injurious, for it is seldom that more than two or three of the
larvffi are found on one plant.

A phenomenal increase of any leaffeeding insect would, no doubt, be hurtful
and even one or two of the larger species would defoliate a young tree to a very
serious extent. The presence of these intruders may be readily known by their
excrementa scattered under the tree. I would recommend the fruit-grower to
remove carefully the rarer kinds of eater-pillars, and to send them to some entomo-
logical friend.

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Then there are the hosts of insects which feed on shrubs and forest trees, in
which the fruit-growei- has no special interest, and on the grasses and herbaceous
plants which in themselves are not obnoxious to him. The name of these insects is
"Legion." Lastl}', there are the many insects predaceous upon these neutral
insects, Afhich neither for good nor for harm atfect the fruit-grower's special
interests. All these we may pass by, and come to the consideration of —

IV. Insects Indirectly beneficial to Fruit-culture. — Amongst these must be found
a place for such as help to keep down encroaching and troublesome weeds that would
be an eye-sore to the fruit-grower, and an injury to the orchard and garden.
Pi/rameis cardui (Linn.) feeds upon the thistle, Vanessa milberti (Goilt.) on the
nettle, Danah arcJdpjms (Fabr.) on the milk-weed. Each of them in its perfect state
is "a thing of beauty," and, therefore, as the poet tells us, "a joy for ever; " and
though the judicious fi-uit-grower may allovv no weeds to establish themselves in his
own grounds, it will not be an unpleasing reflection for him that these insects, and
others of similar habits, are working at the weeds in the grounds of his slack
neighbours.

But more important in their operations than these aie the numerous parasitic
and predaceous insects that keep down the numbers of the injurious kinds. Asilus
ffs^i/a/is (Linn.), and .4. sencens (Say), together with many kinds of dragon flies, roam
the air in summer time in search of their winged prey. The larvie of the Syrphians
feed on the plant-lice, or in the bodies of living caterpillars, which thej' ultimately
destroy. The Cicindelida}, or Tiger Beetles, and the Carabida^ or Ground Beetles,
devour vast numbers of curculio grubs. Harpalus caliijnosus (Say) eats the cut-worms.
The larva? of the Fii*e-fly, Photiniis py7-alis (Linn.) also feed.^ upon underground
larva?, and will even bite its way into cocoons. I have found it in the act of cleaning
out a cocoon of Xematiis erichsunii. The 'Lady-h'nx\s,Coccinetida', in all their stages,
do an immense amount of good in thinning the numbers of the ditterent species of
Aphis. The Solitary Wasps and the Sphex-flies are also among the fruit-growers'
best insect-friends. Eumenes frate) nus (Say) stores its mud cells with paralyzed but
living larva?. I once saw Odynerus capra (Sanss.) pounce down upon a colony of
full-grown larvip of the imported currant-worm, Nematus rentricosiis (Klug). The
larva) dropped instanter to the ground ; but the wasp selected its victim, and, with
its powerful jaws, nipped it at regular intervals, probably over the ganglia, through-
out its length, taking all the twist out of it. It then attempted to fl}- oft' with its
prey, but found it too heavy. Acting in accordance with the school-boy principle,
that "the best pocket for carrying one's lunch is an inside pocket," it nipped off the
thoracic segments, and proceeded to make a meal, leaving the head, fore-legs and
skin. It then took up the more succulent after-part of the larva* and flew oft with
it. no doubt to add it to the provision it was making for its young. Insects belonging
to the various genera of the Ichneumonida^ also <lo yeoman service. Packard tells
us that "In Europe over 2,000 species of this ftimily have been described, and it is
probable we have an equal number of f.pecies in America.""i^ Pimpla peHalis
(Cresson) is parasitic in the web-worms; Ichneumon saturalis (Say) in the Army-
worm. Gryptus exf remains (Cresson) lays its eggs in considerable numbers in the
larvie of Platysamia Cecropia (Linn.) The eggs hatch in the living larva*, and the
grubs locate themselves in suitable quarters within their hosts. Each brings the
end of its bod}- — where the openings of the two principal tracha* are found — into
proximity to one of the stigmata of its host, and so is enabled to breathe. It feeds
upon the" juices and fatty matter of the unhappy caterpillar; and all the food it
takes must be assimilated, for its stomach ends in a cul de sac. Think of the
condition of the wretched host, with a score or two of grubs sapping its vitals.
Surely the most irate, or desponding, fi-uit-grower, who has been ready to wring his
hands, and exclaim with York, in Shakespeare's 2nd part of King Henry V. :—

"TliHH are inv bloswnn.s hlft(»t«l in the hiiil,
And cateipillars eat my leaves away. "

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will find an anodyne for his mental sutterings in the thought that at any rate some of
his insect foes have been condemned to the fate of Herod.

V. "We have lastly to consider insects indirectly hurtful. These consist of the
foes of the fruit-growers friends. The hive-bee suffers from the operations of Gal-
leria cereana (Fabr.). A moth which ventures within the hive and, even when perish-
ing under the attacks of the bees, manages to deposit eggs in nooks and corners by
means of its long telescopic ovipositor. Its larva? construct silken galleries, and push
their way under cover through and through the comb, working sad destruction. The
humble-bees' nests are open to the visits of the cuckoo-bee. Apathus ashtoni (Cresson.).
This insect lays Its eggs in the jwUen masses provided by the humble-bee for its own
young. The larva' of one or two species of Volucolla eat the young themselves.
The larva) of the Musk Beetle, Afeloe augusticollis (Say) lie in wait in the heads of
flowers, especialh' in the catkins of the sallow. When the humble-bees come the
larva' cling to them, and are carried to the bees' nests, where they feed on the bee-
bread and the larva? of the bees. The humble-bee itself is assailed by parasites.
The grubs of that remarkable beetle, Stylops childrmi (Westwood), are found in its
abdomen, and so are the maggots of one or two species of cynips.

Under the head of insects indirectly injurious to fruit culture we might include
the foes of the foes of hurtful insects; but 1 must not trj' your patience by leading
you further amid the intricacies of the marvellous machinery of nature. No man
knows, and probably no man ever will know, the bearing of its every part. When
we come to the subject of parasites of parasites, the recollection of the old rhyme
which we have all heard speedily pulls us up —

" Big flt-a.s have little fleas,

And little, less, to bite 'em
And these fleas have (jther fleas,

And so, ml infinitum."

We have seen, then, that there are many kinds of insects directly favourable to
fruit culture ; that the fruit-grower has many trusty allies — an active insect police
— guarding his trees fiom the destruction that would otherwise await them ; that,
besides these, and the neutral insects, there are numerous others working directly,
or indirecth-, against him. It is important that he should be able to distinguish his
friends from his foes. An episode will make this moi-e apparent. I was once walk-
ing with a gentleman in a gai-den of which he was very proud. I noticed a cluster
of microgaster cocoons on one of the beds ; and I said," Do you see those? " In an
instant, before I could interpose, he had vindictively crushed them under foot. I
said, "You h-^'e been too hasty. Those were cocoons of a species of ichneumon fly
which is one of the fruit-grower's best friends. There were probably fifty cocoons in the
cluster, containing insects the ottspring of one mother-fly. Now, supposing half of
these to have been females, and that each female would lay forty eggs, in duo course
of events there would next year have been 1,250 of the insects working in your favour.
And if you choose to carry on the calculation, you will find that at the end of five
years there would, nothing interfering, have been 488,281,250 of their descendants
labouring for the fruit-growers' benefit."

A slight knowledge of entomology — su^icient to enable the fruit-grower to dis-
tinguish his friends from his foes— may now be acquired without much difficulty ;
and where he is in doubt as to the nature of an insect, let the fruit-grower give the
insect the benefit of the doubt.

It is not now as it was twenty-eight years ago, when I commenced to study Cana-
dian insects with nothing but my knowledge of European entomology for a guide. In
1850 Breckenbridge Clemens wrote to the editor of the English Entomological
Intelligence, from Easton. Pennsylvania, " With us everything has yet to be done ;" and
in the same year Packard wrote from Brunswick, Maine, to the same editor, "You
see our moths have not been worked up at all as yet." Grote tells us that in 1862
there were probably " not one hundred species named and tletermined in any collec-
tion." How great has been the change in the interval ! Packard, Biley, Lintner, and
others, have done admirable work for the advancement of Economic Entomology on
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care of the Provincial Government, had issued nineteen most useftil annual reports.
The Canadian Entomologist, the organ of the society, under the able editorship
oftheRev. Dr. Bethune, is acknowledged to be one of the best publications of its
kind. It is not too much to say that the society in spreading informa-
tion concerning insecticides, &c., has saved the Dominion millions of
dollars. One of the fathers of Canadian Entomology, Mr. William Saunders, has
written for the Canadian fruit-grower, on "Insects Injurious to Fruits," that I
know is most valuable, and the Department of Agriculture, in appointing Mr. James
Fletcher as Dominion Entomologist, in connection with the Experimental Farms, has
made a wise and judicious choice. Fruit-growers will find in Mr. Fletcher a safe
entomological guide. Under most favourable circumstances then, those who have
not already done so may, if they will, take up the study of entomology, and find it
both pleasant and advantageous.

The President. — Before calling for a discussion on this very valuable paper, I
will call for a paper on a similar subject from Mr. James Fletcher, of the Experi-
mental Farm.

Injurious Insects affecting Fruits — Eemedies to Prevent their Ravages : by
Jambs Fletcher, Dominion Entomologist, Ottawa.

Mr. President and Gentlemen, — When the secretary of the Convention
honoured me with an invitation to write a paper upon •' The Injurious Insects which
affect Fruits, and the Best Remedies to prevent their Ravages," I felt very thankful
for the opportunity thus afforded of drawing your attention to a subject which my
studies have convinced me are of enormous importanee to all of you, as well as to
the whole Dominion.

I am perfectly well aware that, in a meeting like the present, Avhere the most
advanced fruit-growers of the country are met together, much of what I am about
to lay before you is well-known, but the poor condition (due to the preventible
attacks of insects) of some of the fruit offered for sale in the Canadian market, as
well as the frequent complaints of serious injury from well-known pests have
induced me to occupy a portion of your time in trying to induce you to pay more
attention to this part of your work of fruit growing.

The annual diminution of all crops grown through the agency of insects is
enormous, and it is claimed averages at least 10 per cent, of all vegetable products.
This percentage would in mawj cases be far too low, but even this is much higher
than it ought and might be, if horticulturists and agriculturists would only awake
from their indifference and make use of available and easily accessible information.
All intelligent thinking people recognise the fact that insects play a most important
role in the economy of nature ; but owing to the prevailing ignorance upon these
matters, which pervades all ranks of society, these small forms of animal life, so
exquisitely beautified, to those whose ty^s have been opened by the golden key of
observation and knowledge, are by the generality of mankind regarded only with
feelings of repugnance or disgust, and the study of their lives and habits is merely
an object of ridicule and contempt for the simple.

The fruit-grower is brought into veiy close contact with his friends and foes
of the insect world, and it is of paramount importance that be should be able to
recognise which are which. The actual benefits derived from insects are consider-
able; perhaps the most important of these is in their capacity as Nature's scavengers
— the means always at hand of removing from the face of the earth anything useless
or objectionable. To the fi-uit-grovver"they are important jm parasites of other
insects which are injurious, and as poUenizers of his fruits, di-ect connection haying
been traced between bad fruit harvests and the occurrence of cold, wet periods,
(luring which insects are inactive, at the time the fruit trees were in blossom. In
addition to the above direct benefits derivable from insects, mention may be made
of such useful products as honey, wax, silk, ink galls, cochineal and shellac; but the
benefits which we receive from insects must always appear insignificant as compared
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entirely protect crops from injurious insects, nor would it very likely be for the best
interests of agriculture, for insects have a definite mission to perform in nature, and
any interference with the laws of nature must be done with extreme caution —
insects act as Nature's prnners, preventing too luxuriant a growth of wood or foliage
or too profuse a production of fruit.

The practical entomologist endeavours to find remedies which will prevent as
much loss as possible, and this, at the least expenditure of time and money. To
attain this end he finds that the knowledge of most use is that which teaches him
the life-history of the diffei-ent insects to be studied. By this means he knows at what
stage of their development his foes maj' be most advantageously attacked. By this
knowledge, too, the eyes of the farmer arc frequently opened to the fact that insects
which he supposed were injuring his crops, were present as friends preying upon his
enemies. It would be bad taste on my part to occupy more than a fow minutes of
your time to-daj'. I know that you have more papers presented than can possibly
be read. I shall, therefore, merely dii-ect your attention to some of the best methods
of treating insects injurious to fruits, which have been developed during the last few
years, and I have no doubl that some of the practical orchardists and fruit-growers
present, whom I know to have used these methods, will, by giving their experience,
carry the point I wish to make far better than if I were to read an elaborate paper,
which, perhaps, might tire you. I have stated that a knowledge of the life-history
of insects is of very great impoi'tance when we wish to check their ravages ; for not-
withstanding the enormous number of insects, there being no less than 25,000
described species in North America, it is only a small proportion of these which
need be studied by the horticulturist, and the numbei- of first-class pests, with whose
habits he should be iamiliar, or which, at any j-ate, should be known by name, so
that information maj* be asked for in a definite manner, is much smaller than the
number of names of the varieties of anj' of our truits. Further than this, he will
find upon examining the subject tliat the injuries committed by insects upon his fruit
crops are susceptible of classification, so that they be sucessfully treated by the
modification, according to circumstances, of three or four standard remedies. The
reason of this was stated in my Annual Report for 1885, as follows: —

"If you examine a large number of ditt'erent insects you will find that they all
maybe roughly divided into two large groups, by the form of their mouth parts.
These two groups are: 1. Those which possess jaws, by means of which they con-
sume the substance of their food; and (2) Those which have instead a hollow tube,
by means of which they suck up their food in the shape of liquid juices. Now, it is
apparent that for insects of the first group, as the Colorado Potato-Beetle, which con-
sumes the whole substance of its food-plant, all that is necessary is to apply to the
foliage some poisonous material, which will not injure the plant, but which, being
consumed with the leaves, will destroy the insects devouring them. Such poisonous
materials we have in the various arsenical compounds which I shall mention later.

" For the second group, however, which do not masticate their food, these
remedies are useless, for the insects having their mouth-parts in the shape of a
hollow tube, as we find in the Aphides, dr plant-lice, can pierce through these
poisonous applications on the surface of their food and extract the juices upon which
they live from the interior of the leaf. With such insects it is necessary to make
use of remedies which act by mere contact with their bodies, and do not require to
be eaten at all. Foi- this purpose, coal oil (petroleum) and carbolic acid, as well as
the vegetable insecticides known as Hellebore and the Persian and Dalmatian insect
powders, and tobacco, ai-e most useful. These remedies, too, as they will destroy all
insects, are of much wider application than the poisons mentioned above."

Methods of treatment known as preventive remedies are those by which
substances are applied to crops to prevent the female insects from laying their eggs
upon the plants which it is desired to protect. Under this head come such remedies
as putting alkaline washes upon the trees to prevent borers, and the application of
kerosene emulsion or sand saturated with keiosene around cabbages or upon onion
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which I now desire particularly to draw your attention is the spraying of arsenical
insecticides upon fruit trees. The results have been so satisfactory to all who have
experimented with them that I cannot understand whj' they are not more generally
used. During the last two or three years careful experiments have been carried out
to test the efficacy of these remedies. The result of these investigations is that they
are pronounced to be perfectly sate and sure remedies if certain precautions are
taken in their application. There is of course danger in using arsenic in any form ;
at the same time, with ordinary and proper care arsenic may be used satisfactorily
and good results will follow. For the successful use of these snbstanoes, I think it
is necessary to have a force pump of some kind and a spray nozzle. A very suitable
sort of force pump may be obtained complete with a cyclone nozzle, the most useful
form of nozzle, for about $4.50. This will give the gardener and fruit grower an
instrument with which he can spray a small number of trees. If he has a large
orchard it will be necessary for him to procure one of the larger and more expensive
machines made in the United States. Here in Canada in most of the large cities
you can obtain a small force pump for 8.5.00,which Avith spray nozzles of tAvo sizes and a
light extension bamboo i-od, will give you all the apparatus necessary for spraying
trees as large as either apple or pear ti-ees grow in this country. There is a combina-
tion of the Riley cyclone nozzle, known as the New Zealand Triplet. This has been tried
in Australia with vciy good success. I believe with a force pump and a spray nozzle
any fruit grower will be fitted out to prevent at least seventy-five per cent, of the loss to
his plums and apples if he will follow the instructions given in the numerous publica-
ions which have dealt with those subjects. There is just one more point I should like to
speak of, and that is : How to spray. A great many have reported against spraying
the arsenites upon orchai-d trees, because they found their trees injured by
the arsenic in the mixtures used. This has resulted from the fact that
the spraying was not done properly, and Avith this, as with everything
else, Avhen you attempt to do it without knowing how, you are liable
to fail. In spraying a tree the spray should be directed to one spot only until
the liquid begins to drop from the leaves. You should not drench your trees. The
cyclone nozzle prevents you spraying in the wrong way, if you use it as above
directed. In that way you have a sufficient quantity of poison on your plant to
protect it against the attacks of injurious insects, and at the same time you do not
run the risk of destroying your foliage. With regard to the proper time for spray-
ing, of coui-se you must be'guided very largely by circumstances. If you are spraying
for the codling moth, and know something of 'its habits, you will know that the
egg is laid inside the flower, or at any rate whilst the calyx of the flower is turned up.
Afterwards, as the apple increases in size and weight, it turns over and hangs down.
It would be impossible to spray so that the poison should fall inside the calyx after
it has turned down. You must not. however, spray the trees until the flowers are
mature and the ovaries are fertilized, or you will run the risk of destroying the
fruit-gi-owers' good friends, the bees. " Directly the petals of the flowers
begin to drop oil' you will be perfectly safe in spraying your trees. In spraying
plum trees for the ciirculio, there is no advantage in spraying too soon. It is best
to spray for the first time when the plums are about the size of small peas, and again
a second time about a fortnight later. By spraying the trees, a fine coating of the
poisonous material is deposited over every part of the tree, on the foliage, the twigs
and the fruit. The curculio feeds not only on the leaves and young plums, but also
on the green bark and the young twigs. When the parent beetles come to the
trees to feed, oven if they only consume a small portion of the plant, they are sure
to eat with it some of the arsenic. This poison does not act very rapidly, and death
may not result for a day or even two, but it is sure in the end. I am decidedl}' in
favour of using weak mixtures, with, if necessary, twoapplications, by which better
results will be secured than by putting on strong mixtures, and running the risk of
injuring your trees. With regard to the stiength of mixtures, I have found the
following satisfactory : With Paris green, 1 lb. to 200 gallons of water for apple,
cherry and plum trees ; 1 lb. to 250 gallons of water for pear trees, and if used upon

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peach trees, not stronger than 1 lb. to 300 gallons of water. The spraying upon
plum and cherry trees should be repeated two or three times, at intervals ot about
ten daj's, as the curculio continues laying its eggs for some time. A most important
precaution that must be taken is to keep the mixture thoroughly stirred all the
time, or the heavy powder will sink to the bottom, and as the supply of liquid is
used up, it will be too strong at the bottom. London purple, one of the arsenical
compounds which is much used, I have found less satisfactory than Paris green,
from the fact that thoarsenicwhich it contains is in a much more soluble form, and as
London purple is a by-product in the manufacture of aniline dyes, the amount of
this soluble arsenic contained varies in amount in different samples, and the results
obtained are therefore uncertain.

Another most useful remedy which has lately being brought into pi'ominenco is
the kerosene emulsion, which can be used against all such insects as hibernate u])on
the branches of fruit trees, as scale insects, aphides and bud-worms. It is difficult to
mix kerosene with water to dilute it; it must first be emulsitied and then diluted.
The usual formula is that advised by Prof. Riley, the U. S. Entomologist, and con-
sists of ^Ib. soap, boiled in 1 gallon of waieruntil itisquite dissolved ; it is then turned
boiling hot into 2 gallons of kerosene, and is then churned by means of a syringe or
force pump for about 10 minutes, when the emulsion comes. The emulsion is then
to be diluted with nine times its quantity of water before using it. I have no doubt
that many of you have used these remedies, and I merely wish to bring them up
formally for discussion, believing that they form a subject of great interest to you
all.

The President. — Mr. Fletcher's paper is now open for discussion. It is a very
large subject, and one of very great importance

Mr. Hamilton. — In what proportions should Paris green and kerosene emulsion
be mixed with water so as not to be injurious ?

Mr. Fletcher. — There aie various proportions recommended, some of them
much stronger than I have ever advised myself; but 1 have found good results can
be got with the following proportions: Upon apple and plum trees, which will stand
a stronger mixture than pears or peaches: one pound of Paris green to
two hundred gallons of water. That is the proportion as to Paris green. I
have never recommended the use of London purple, because the strength is not
necessarily defined. London purple is a waste product, and the amount of arsenic in it
is not regular; but in Paris green, which is a manufactured article, made according
to a set formula, it is different, and if used in the proportion given, I think will be found
satisfactory. Some people recommend to use it stronger but I have found
that it gives satisfactory results with very few instances of injury. The
kerosene emulsion is made from two gallons of kerosene in one of water in
which half a pound of any kind of soap has been dissolved. This gives
you the emulsion, which must afterwards he diluted, one part with nine of
water. The soap is dissolved by boiling it in water, and when it is at the boiling
point you take it oft* the fire and turn in the kerosene. It is then violently agitated
with a syringe or force pump, and in about five or six minutes you get an emulsion
like cream. After two or three minutes there i^ an apparent union, but this is not to
be trusted, because directly you put in the cold water it separates at once. After
it separates you may do a great deal of injury if you use it upon some plants. The
kerosene floats on the top and the soap and water stand below. The mixture must be
thoroughly emulsified. You test it on a piece of glass. If j^ou can smear it over
the glass it is perfect. Then reduce it with nine parts of water to one of the
emulsion. This formula, which originated at Washington, has been given in
almost all the horticultural journals and also in my reports to the Department of
Agriculture which I shall be glad to send to any one who cares to have them.

Mr. Henry. — Out in British Columbia some insect or disease has caused a great
many black spots on the young apple trees. It causes the death of a great many of
them. Of course, we are not informed in these things out there, and wo would like
to know what the cause is that makes these black spots on the young apple trees.
We see them first early in the spring.

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question without seeing the specimens. If specimens can bo sent to mo I maj'
possibly be able to give you an answer. I have seen in Vancouver Island such -i.
disease as you mention. This is possibly a bacterial disease, such as we have in the
pear blight ; at the same time, they have in British Columbia a species of the flat-
headed borer and other borers which attack the apple. They have several injurious
insects there. With regard to remedies for the borers, we must know sometliing of
their life hifetory, and the time that they appear in the perfect state. The beetles
fly to the trees and deposit their eggs in the crevices of the bark, and the borer,
which is hatched, undermines the bark and destroys the tree. It is a simple matter
to apply to the trunks of the trees, at the season of egg-laying, a weak solution of
soft soap, add warm water to it and keep it stirred until it is of a convenient con-
sistency, and then apply i*; with a whitewash brush and scrub the trees. Prof.
A. J. Cook, of Michigan, added to this mixture a small quantity of carbolic acid,
and, he thought, with good results. A great difficulty I find is to get fruit-growera
to use the solutions and weak mixtures as I recommend them. In mixing a quarter
of a pound of Paris green to fifty gallons of water you will be surprised to find
what a little this quantity is. But if you put in a little more you may do damage
to your trees. In the soap wash for borers, above mentioned, a small quantity of
carbolic acid is all that is wanted to give the odour which is found to be obnoxious to
most insects, and prevents them from going to the trees to lay their eggs there.

Senator Eeesor. — Do you say that that quantity of Paris gi-een is equally effec-
tual upon potato bugs ?

Mr. Fletcher — No, sir ; I believe it would answer the purpose, but it would
take longer to do it. I generally put a spoonful of Paris green into a tinpail of
water for the potato beetle. The potato is a coarse growing plant, and one not easily
injured by arsenic. With regard to the susceptibility to injury in certain plants, we
find that of the fruit trees mentioned the apple is the least susceptible to injury, the
cherry and plum more so, while the peach is extremely susceptible, so that in
some experiments made by Prof. Forbes, of Illinois, one pound to 450 gallons of
water left a decided injury on the edges of the peach leaves.

Mr. Perry. — Would a solution of Paris green for the apple be sufficiently strong
for the plum ?

Mr. Fletcher. — You must use lesi for the plum than the apple.

Prof. WiLLARD — Unfortunately, I did not get th'^ benefit of the last paper that
was read or discussed, but hearing the terms Paris green and London purple used
reminded me so forcibly of the fact that I had had my fingers badly burned by
trifling with London purple, I simply wanted to warn the gentlemen present regard-
ing its use. I have used Paris green for a great many years, and during the last
two seasons I have taken to use London purple somewhat, but last year we made a
very sad mistake in using it so much so that I should think the trick cost me five or
six hundred dollars. I don't think I would much care to go through the same experi-
ence again. All I have to say is that it is much more soluble in water than Paris
green, that its strength varies a great deal, and the man who uses it don't want to
let the man that he hires use it, because if he does he certainly will sutfer. I am
very careful with my Paris green, and also witti the London purple, to have the
packages put up by the druggist and weighed out precisely, so that we shant make
any mistakes, but we all make this mistake : Last year we put up our London
purple in four-ounce packages. We had two spraying machines, one of which
would hold about 100 gallons of water and another one that would hold about 50
gallons, and the intention was to have used the one holding 100 gallons entirely upon
our plum trees ; but a mistake being made one day, the machine that held 50 gallons
was run into the field, and the eight-ounce packages were put into it, as was required,
and the result was the defoliation absolutely of one plum orchard, a loss which wo
cannot quite measure yet, I can tell you next year about it. I think some of the
trees will die as a result of it. We certainly lost $500 worth of plums by the opera-
tion. We used the machine holding 50 gallons of water that, was using four ounces,

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on pear trees, and within three dnys, with the Knrtlett pears, T saw evidences of the
leaves being burned. 1 said to myself: If these leaves were injured, which were never
injured before, by the use of Paris green, tliere is a certain plum orchard that will
be injured in the same proportion, because the foliage will not stand what the pear
tree will. It is a sensitive foliage. The result was, that the orchard suffered a good
deal. I made up my mind that hereafter London purple would find some other fellow
to use it, and any of you who want the experience can try it, but no more London
purple for me.

Mr. WooLVERTON. — I have had a little experience, too, with Paris green and
London purple. 1 use ten or fifteen pounds every j'ear in my orchard, and I might
have something to say in addition I have had some unfavourable results by nsing
Paris green. I am verj- careful, as a rule, not to use too much of it. 1 only use
about three ounces to forty gallons of water, and surely that is on the safe side. But
I find the difficulty is this: that a man in adding the Paris green to each successive
barrel or puncheon of water does not consider the amount of sediment remaining
from the preceding bari-el that is already in, and the result is that after a da}' or two
his solution is getting constantly stronger and stronger, and the result has been that
one season a large quantity of fruit was lost. So I think it is necessary to speak a
word of warning in regard to this matter, that in adding the successive quantities to
the barrel it is well to remember that it is a substance that is rather heavy and
inclined to settle to the bottom, and it may become much stronger than we imagine.
I can also corroborate what has been said regarding London purple, and that with
somewhat of the same proportions I have had serious results to the foliage of apple
trees. The kerosene emulsion, that has been spoken of by Mr. Fletcher, thave used
a good deal Avith the Bartletts with excellent success, applying about the first of
June.

Mr. FisK. — I am interested in this. I have had some experience myself.
Unlilce Mr. Willard, 1 have not burned mj'^ fingers with London purple. The last
tAVo S'^asons I have sprayed with London purple, using one pound to one hundred
gallons of water, and so far I don't see any bad results to the foliage. I have seen
great evil result from the destructive work of the insect. I was spraying for a bug-
that attacked my orchard three years ago, I think it was in 1878. It was a small
insect, about a quarter of an inch long, with a long head, which, I think, Mr. Fletcher
told me turned to a moth. Howevei-, this insect attacked my orchard and my
neighbour's orchard three years ago. The foliage was badly eaten, and I resorted
during the next season to the use ot London purple. 1 put it on very early, spi-aying
three times that spring. I succeeded in saving my orchard from defoliation, while
my neighbour's O'-chai-d was totally defoliated. Last year I sprayed again, and had a
fair crop of fruit, and my neighbour's orchard was defoliated for the thiixi time. There
was one remarkable featui-e which struck me in regard to this insect, and that is
that it did not attack the Eed Asti-achans. I had in my orchard one row of Red
Astrachans and the foliage was not attacked by these insects, and my neighbour's Eed
Astrachan trees Avere never injured. I would like to knOAV if any other gentleman
has had the same experience. I would like to know why this insect discards the Eed
Astrachan.

Mr. Brodie. — I have used both Paris j^reen and London purple. I used the latter
on hills of potatoes and got them burned. For a number of years I have used
Paris green on a thirtj'-acre orchard, and I have used an ounce to eight gallons of
water, and have used a force pump attached to an empty coal oil barrel on a spring
waggon. I have not the cyclone nozzle to my spraying apparatus, but I have one
which does very good work. We have to be careful that the leaves don't fall into
the barrel. I have used the apparatus for the codling moth and the caterpillar.
While my neighbours are going through their orchards killing caterpillars with their
hands I only apply Paris green. We have to go through a second time, sometimes.

Mr. Fisrc. — If you had a sti-ainer at the end of your tap at the bottom of the
barrel the leaves would not inte:'fere with the flow.

Mr. Fletcher. — Do you stand your barrels upright ?

Mr. FiSK. — Yes.

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Xovv,l think probably the difterence is this: The London purple you cannot rely on
as being of ii certain strength. There is no doubt very much luore'arsenic in London
purple, which is in a soluble form, than in Paris green. 1 never saw the advantage
at all of using Lcnulon purple. Paris green itself is extremely cheap, so there is no
advantage in using London purple on the score of economy ; the one advantage is its
colour. It is unlike any vegetation and yon can see when youi- tree is sprayed.
With London purple it is difficult to make a mistake and spray a ti-eo twice, unless
you are very careless indeed. But with Paris grjen, if you are running down a row
and are called off, it is an easy matter to spray a tree twice, and if yoii do you may
put on too much and injure your trees. This is owing to the colour of the Paris
green. If you use a small quantity of flour with the Paris green you will have a
certain amount of colour, as well as render the poison more adhesive. .Mi.\ yciiir
Paris green with a little water first, and then put in thefiour and get it thoroughly
stirred. One important fact in making the mixture of Paris green is, you nuist
remember that it is a mixture only, and not a solution. It is almost insoluble in
water. What you have is a mixture with Paiis green in suspension. It is eonse-
([uently necessaiy to keep the mixture all the time agitated. This is generally done
by having an agitator attached to your pump, which may be made in a simple way
by attaching a bar to the handle of the pump which is attached to a eross-bar in the
barrel, and when the pump handle is in use the mixture is sufficiently disturbed to
keep the Paris green thoroughly mixed. The pump I have used works to the bottom
of tne barrel, and it is perfectly easy to clean out the barrel every time I use it,
although, of course, after a continuous use of the barrel, if it is not washed out the
Paris green would accumulate around the edges and ii. the barrel to an extent to bo
hurtful.

Mr. Staru. — I find that it is quite necessary for me practically to test all these
arsenical poisons. I have just as much trouble in finding the strength of Paris green as
I had of London purple. The trouble is just this : there is such a demand for Paris green
now that it is becoming adulterated, the .same as any other substances which you
buy. The dishonest men adulterate with something else. Some years ago I found
it was necessary to spray some trees for canker worms. I took some of the Paris
green I had been using in previous years and went over the trees. I kept the right
strength, and to accomplish the work I found I had not enough to go on, and the
next day secured some more, making it of the same comparative strength, and in a
day or two I found I had done no good whatever. The canker worms were still
going on. It is necessary in advance to test the strength of the Paris green on the
foliage and trees, and from the experiments I got the strength I required. In using
London purple I to-day would rather take it than take the Paris green sold, because i
think it is no more difficult to find the strength of it than it is to find the strength
of Pai'is green. I even think that it is more easily commingled with water, and not
80 liable to settle as Paris green.

Mr. Pettit. — I would like to ask if that kerosene emulsion referred to is strong
enough for Thrip on the grape leaves.

Mr. Fletcher. — I have never made the actual experiment, but I believe it would
be the most efficient remedy, and have advised its use in my reports. Mr. John
Lowe, the Deputy Minister of Agriculture, informs me that he has procured good
results by dusting the vines with powdered sulphur. In hot weather there is an
odour given off which keeps the insects away. I believe the kerosene emulsion
would be found the most convenient remedy for this insect.

Mr. FisK. — Last year I tried the kerosene emulsion on the grape vines for the
Thrip with good results.

Rev. Mr. Fulton. — I have used London purple, and I have each an arrange-
ment as has been described for stirring the mixture in the bariel. After putting
the London purple in the barrel and mixing it up, and if the barrel was not emptied
properly at the end, there is a deposit of particles that do not dissolve, and the result
18, that towards the end the trees are injured. The remedy that I insisted upon was,

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that tho stuft' should be ground up in the mortar and raako it all the more liable to
dissolve. If this is not done itgets hard and insoluble. Tho London purple is more
soluble than Paris green.

Mr. IIamilton.-^-I think there is some misunderstanding as to what spraying
really is. I saw some people spraying in the gardens among potatoes, and they
literally deluged the plants. Under such circumstances there is little reason that the
spraying does not work etfectually. 1 wos doing a portion of ray garden with Paris
fireen, and came near the end of my Paris green, it was running out, and
I put in a less quantity of Paris green, and the work was done more
etfectuall}' than with the larger quantities. I think if the spraying is done
in such a way as it will best fall on and not run otf, that a very small
quantity of Paris green is necessary. With regard to the use of sulphur on grapes,
about thirty years ago I had a lai'ge vinery, and to destroy Thrip I used to close
up tho house at 4 p.m., moisten the ground all over and start a tire in tho house, and
with a little sulphur burned I filled the house with sulphur fumes, and there was not
a sign of Thrip. The result is, I never had any trouble with Thrip.

Prof. Shutt. — I fear members of the Convention might go away with the im-
pression that while London purple is not definite in strength that Paris green can
always be depended on. This is not the case. Very often commercial samples of
Paris green contain as much as 25 per cent, of gypsum, which, of course, has no
value as an insecticide.

Mr. Fletcher. — The statement made was that the amount of arsenic in Paris
green was much more definite than in London purple. I believe Paris green
contains about 60 per cent, of arsenical material. It does not matter what the other
40 per cent, is made up of. But what I wish to state is merely that Paris green is
much more definite in its strength than London purple, that it is a good remedy, and
that it will pay fruit-growers to use it. I had a series of analyses made some year
or two ago by the Department of Inland Eevenue, and the percentage of adulter-
ation varied from 1 to 10 per cent, in Paris green ; and in the London purple, on the
other hand, the amount of arsenic varied from 60 to 18 percent, in the series of
experiments that were made. Of course, I do not recommend the London Purple at
all because of the uncertainty about it; but good results have been obtained by it.
All I said was, if you want to get the pure article and know what you are using buy
Paris green ; although a little higher in price than London Purple, it is more
reliable.

Prof. SiiUTT. — I have no doubt we very often get the pure article. What 1 want
to point out is, that we do not always get 100 per cent, of Paris trreen, and the con-
sequence is that the strength as an insecticide is lessened.

Prof. Shutt then read his paper on the "Composition of Apple Tree Leaves."

THE COMPOSITION OF APPLE TREE LEAVES.

Agi'icultural chemists throughout the world are, and have been now for some
years, directing their attention towards the solution of questions concerning the
growth and bringing to perfection of plants and animals which serve for the use of
man. With regard to plants— and by that term I include all farm crops — analyses
have been made of all their parts, so that their composition is, to-day, pretty well
known.

Field experiments and experiments in water culture — in which the various
salts required by the plants are dissolved in water — have also been made, enabling us,
at tho present time, to state definitely what special fertilizing constituents are valu-
able for the growth of certain crops, what classes of soil are most suited to cereals,
the leguminous plants, and so on.

But as yet it appears that little has been done in this direction for the fruit-
growers, and the reason for this is not difficult to find. In all expei-iments of this
nature it is necessary to weigh and analyse an aliquot part of the final product of
vegetable growth in order to arrive at the amount of plant food absorbed from the

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soil and other sources, and in this way ascertain the extent to which the soil has been
exhausted and the special inorganic and organic elements which enter into the com-
position of their tissues. In the case of farm crops which are reaped annually this
18 comparatively an easy task, but it is obvious Uvtt in the case of fruit trees — both
small and large — this of necessity cannot easily be done. As, however, it is as highly
important to the fruit-growers to know what kind of food and what class of soils
are best suited to produce the largest amount of fruit as it is to the farmer to bo in
possession of such information respecting his crop, it is but the duty of those
engaged in working out these problems to direct their study, as fur as in their power
lies, towards the solution of such difficult questions.

It was with a view of throwing some light upon this abstruse subject, of
proposing some rational mode in the application of fertilizers to orchards, that the
work included in this paper was undertaken.

Now, it must not be thought that even if we knew the exact composition of all
the parts of the tree (and as long as the fruit is hanging it remains part of the tree),
and also the total weight of those component parts as well as a knowledge of the
composition of the soil in which the tree was growing that the whole question would
be settled. Until a few years ago it was thought that such data were sufHoient to
guide the agriculturist in manuring certain fields for certain crops, but later facts
evolved by patient experiments, conducted most <!arefully over many years, have
now proved this theory fallacious. I might illustrate this by reference to the
cereals and leguminosa>. The former contain but half the nitrogen of the latter, yet
notwithstanding this fact, and all that it seems to imply, it is found that the applica-
tion of nitrogen is specially beneficial to the cereals, but of little or no value to the
legnminosa^, especially after a certain stage of their growth. Without going into the
reasons, or rather theories, which have been advanced to account for this state of affairs,
I will ask you to bear these facts in mind, and at the same time to remember that ex
nihito nihil fit, that we have to draw upon the soil, the air and water lor the consti-
tuents of plant food, and that the soil, generally speaking, is the only one of the three
we can modify or alter in composition b}' mechanical or chemical agents. The
climate, including degree of frost, amount of rainfall, snow, sunshine, &c., all these
are important factors in agriculture. But as we have no control over the elements,
the line of experiment seems rather in making choice of and breeding from such
varieties, whose qualities, dependent upon heredity a^ ' environment, make them
seem specially adapted to the climate immediately under consideration, and then
finding out by all the means at our command, and then applying those elements of
plant food best suited to their growth anu development.

In this series of experiments five well-known and hardy varieties of apple trees
were selected and the leaves gathered at two stages of their growth, viz.: 25th May
and 20th September. The leaves in all cases were taken from two or more trees,
so that their analysis should reveal the fair average composition of the leaf of that
variety at that particular stage of the tree's growth. Upon the first date some
difficulty was experienced in a few instances in getting sufficient leaves lor analysis
without seriously denuding the tree of foliage, so that these first specimens represent
leaves in a stage of development. On 20th September all the leaves were still quite
green, and their life apparently unimpaired and vigorous.

Mr. John Craig, Horticulturist to the Central Experimental Farm, has kindly
furnished me with the following descriptions of the apple trees under discussion : —

Duchess of Oldenburgh. — ^Tree is vigorous and hardy, forming a roundish,
upright head. Beai-s young, and abundantly. Young shoots, smooth, reddish.
Leaves, medium-sized, firm and glossy. September.

Tetofsky. — Tree upright, very hardy, vigorous. A young and annual bearer.
Young shoots, stout, reddish-brown. Leaves, very large. August,

Wealthy. — Hardy, vigorous and healthy. Spreading, open head. Bears young;
is an abundant and annuafbearer. Shoots, dark, medium. Leaves, medium. October.

Fameuse.— Tree, modemtely vigorous and hardy, round-topped, spreading.
Young shoots, reddish-brown. Fairly young annual bearer.

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Moisture. — "With tlio exception of the Fniueuse, the j)ei'eenta!j,e of water in all
the specimens (i-.ken 25lh May lie^ between '70'04 and 72' 11 — pi'aciically, between 71
and 72. The Fanieuse i,s nioi'c succnlent, anil contains 75'45 per cent, water. In
the leaves y;athered 20th So])teniber we tind a <i-eneral diminution in the percentas;-e
of wate:'. the loss being in tln^ neiii'hbourhood of 12 ])e;' ct-nt. It is interesting, and
]ierhaps insti'uclive, to note that with regard to the amount of water, the leaves of
25th May tall into the same oi'der with those of 2<tth Septembei-, the Duchess of
01(lenl)urgh containing least and the Fumeuse most water, showing clearly that
while all havi' followed the general law in loss of moisture each lias retaiiifd its
own characteristic individuality.

Average ]iercentage of water in young leaf. 72'oG

do do matiirer leaf GO'7]

Organic Matter. — This includes all the condiustible material of the leaf, and is
composed of carbon, oxygen, hydrogen and nitroiifen. In the leaves of 25lh May,
those of the Duchess of Oldeiiburgh and of the Wealthy, the |X';centages of oi'ganic
matter are almost the same ami head the list. The TetofsUy and Northern S])y also
contain almost identical amounts, or somewhat less than the two tirst mcntiimed.
while the Fameuse contains the smallest (juanlity of organic matter. This order is
]>i'eservi'(l in the leaves j)lucked 2(Mh September. Fi'om an inspection of these two
columns it will be observed that there is a general diminution of water and increase
of organic matter as the season advances, ami that any special variety preserves its
relativi' position to olhei' varieties in this respect throughout the season.

Average percentage of oiganic matter in young leaf 25';J1

do do maturer leaf 35-83

Ash — The percentage of all the inorganic or mineral constituents of the leaf
are found in this column. AVith the exception of the "Wealthy" we tind the
amounts of ash of the leaves ot 2r)th May closely apjnoximating one another. The
leaves of the Wealthy fall about, 5 ])er cent, below theothersin asli constituents. In
those of the 20th September we tind a general increase in the percentage of ash,
amounting from, 5 to TS per cent, over those of 2r)th May.

Average ])erceiitage of ash in young leaf :i a

do do maturer leaf. 3-46

Phosphoric Acid — With regard to the composition of the ash as detailwi in the
columns following it is difficult to discover in many cases what priji!K.*i|<le, if any,
underlies the distribution of the mineral constituents throughoui thr Tn^sue^ of the
leafduring its growth. AVithout reading too much, however, into the results of a sini;,e
analysis, an inspection of this colmnn shows most clearly that the vung b--*t con-
tains in its ash a much larger percentage oi'])hosphori(' aciil than the maturer oin- —
in some instances the phosphoric acid in the lattiT is but one-naif, or even less, iImii
that of the younger leaf. This would lead us to suppose thai as le sea.«.on
advanced there was a reti'ograde movement of the i)hosphoiie acid oi ;he leaf to
other parts of the tree. As the seed is well known to contain a rehiti\ely large
quantity of this acid we may legitimately be allowed to think tha. the toou
elaliorated in the leaf found its wiiy finally, in ])arl. at all events, to the fruit and
other poi'tions of the ti'ce. And this undoul>tedly expresses a tiiith i tliou;;!i |)ro-
bably not the whole truth), for we observe that tiie average nund)er "f j)(mnds ot
phosjjhoric acid per 1,000 i>ounds of the younger leaf is higher than the correspond-
ing number for the maturer leaf, viz. : as 2.45, 1.1»1, anil this in spite of the fact that
the percentage of ash in the latter is consiilerably higiier than in the former.
Average pereentago of phosphoric acid in iheyoung leaf l<»i7
do do do maturer leaf 5*82

Potash— It woidd not be .sate from the results tabulated to ;t<lvance -tt.ronglv
any theories regarding the disposition of this imporiant element m Uie Icjjrf Tiie
percentage of potash in the young leaf is .somewhat lowor than that in tiie maturer
leaf. When we, however, consider the increused amount of uhIi m the latter we timi
that per 1,(100 pounds the older leaves contains 1-5 pounds mure potush than the

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youngor leaves. On comparing the amounts of potash obtained in those analyses
with the qantity as foand in leaves of other trees, it is at once apparent that the
leaves of the apple tree are exceptionally rich in this material.

Lime — The average percentage of lime in the ash of the young leaf is 1T'40.
while that of the maturor leaf is 27"91, an increase of 10 per cent. This increase
would appear also to be regular throughout the varieties examined. Thus the
Duchess stands iirst in percentage of lime in both lists, foUoAved clo.sely bj' the
Tetofsky, and so on.

Magnesia — While the percentage of lime increased during the growth of the
leal, the analytical data show that the percentage of magnesia decreases during that
[R'riod. Thus, in the young loaf we have magnesia O'TT as the average percentage,
and in the maturor leaf this number is reduced to 4'81. This fact is the more remark-
able and interesting when we remember that the percentage of phosphoric acid
diminished in the same ratio during the same period. It seems quite po.ssible that
these two elements of plant food are intinuitely related in the economy of the plant,
and that in the elaboration of the plant food within the tissues and the distribution
of this food to the ditlerent parts of the plant these two play a very important role.

Oxide of Iron and Silica — Throughout the whole seiies the amounts of those
constituents are seen to bo very similar, and the average in the young and mature
leaf closely approximate each other. The iron after it has performed its functions in
the chlorophyll of the leaf appears to remain in the leaf, and from the tiguros in
the table it is seen that there in no extra dejDosition of silica in the ceils of the leaf
as it grows older.

Nitrogen — The oidy constitutent of groat importance that remains to be dis-
cussed is niti'Ogen. The ditt'erencos in the amounts of niti'Ogen contained in the
organic matter of the leaves of the diti'eront varieties examined are so small that one
would not be warranted in drawing any conclusion therefrom as to dilforencos in this
constituent between the varieties. On taking the averages, however, of nitrogen of
ho leaves in the two stages of their growth, a considerable dilibrence is at once
;ij)parent — a ditt'erence that corresponds to 3 per cent, of albuminoids. The figures
are: —

Nitrogen in young leaf 2'04 corresponding to 18-(il per cent albuminoids.
do maturer leaf 2-4S do 15*50 do

Thi amount of nitrogen ])er one t' ,.usand pounds of the maturer loaf is SvST per
<t'nl. as against 7'4l' in the young loaf. This is duo to the increased percentage of
nuitter in the older leaf. It is evident from these results that changes which atfoct
the roiativo porcentage of nitrogen in the organ!*' matter take plaoe in the leaf during
its dovelopni' t — liut what these changes may be is beyond the scope of the present
pai'or to discu.?a.

Phosphoric acid, potash and nitrogen are the three constituents which above all
•iliers mur^t bo put Itackinto the soil if we are to pi'cservo its fertility. Plants of
certain ordoi-s re ,uire more of one or other of these than plants of other orders.
Soin*- -oils ai-e specially rifh •'- poor in one or more of the materials — and con-
s»'(iuentlv in the rational mode of application of fertilizers much intelligence and
patience must be exercii'vd.

That the leaves of the ajijiio trees draw a large amount of fooil from the soil
annually has been shown. This must be re])laced in excess for the vigorous gnnvlh
of the tree. The leav^ ot the tree play no unimportant part — respiration and diges-
tion are thoii- two chui fum tions — which, if they do not perform well, the tret' can-
not livo and bring t'« perfeition iti* fruit. Therolbre, when we food the leaves we are
indirectly feeding the fi'uit.

The resul-> ot t hii- w-- -oem lo point in the direction of mineral foi'tilizors, and
specialh of jiota'^b us boiK more p;'itioularly roquii-ed for the growth of the leaves.
:»rxl. therefore, foi \he \ .gorous dt'elopmonl of the tree, including an abundant
■'•op of fruit.

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A heavy di-ossing of wood ashes (which may be procureil in many parts of
Canada at a very low price) or of kainit or other form of potash is, therefore, to be
recommended for oi-chnrds.

The value of the leaves composted — a process to be advised as more economical
tlian burning — is also well established by the data atfordod by this work.

Ja. Erodie. — I agree with the gentleman that potash is the best fertilizer for
jipple ti-ees. I found that ashes have done the best. We tind many of our farmeis
Selling their ashes to enrich the farms of their friends of the neighbouring Eepublic.
Ill this enlightened time we should not tind the farmers doing what their forefathers
in 1804 — those who lived along the St. Lawrence — refused to do.

Mr. WooT.VERTON. — I agree with Mr. Brodie and the writer of the paper in regard
to the use of ashes as a fertilizer. In my orchard I used them extensively, and in
the winter time when I am not t-mployed I employ teams the whole season collecting
ashes for m}' apple orchard. Indeed, I had almost become discouraged of ever obtain-
ing a sufficient supply of fertilizers for the oiehard without great expense until I found
<mt the value of wood ashes. [ found the results exceediiigl}' satistactory. I am very
gla<l that Prof. Shutt has given us tliis valuable paper on the analysis of the apjile
leaves, and we will value it very much in our report as a paper to be referred to. We
will lie very glad cm some future occasion to get from this gentleman an analysis of
the apple itself which we can rel}' upon, because it is sure to be useful to us.

Prof. Shutt.- -I intended to sa}' a tew words upon that. I only had time this
year to make an analysis of the leaves. We shall eventually analyse the whole tree.
I fully appreeiate what 3Ir. Woolverton says, viz. : that it is necessary to obtain the
analysis of the apple and of the whole tree before we can begin to make any very
detinite and decisive deductions as to the best fertilizers for orchards.

Mr. Pettit moved the following resolution seconded by Mr. IIenrv : "' That the
Dominion (rovernment be petitioned to re-impose the duty on fruits imported from
the United States."

In support of the resolution Mr. Pettit said : We must all acknowledge that
the policy of the jiresent (rovernment of the Dominion is a policy of protection, and
why the fruit interests of this country have been left unprotected it is a difficult
matter to say. Living as we do in so close connection with our friends across the
river, in a climate much warmer than ours, they take advantage of the markets of
the Dominion to the detriment of the fruit growers of this Dominion. I think it is
a subject, now that we have met here together as fruit growers from all parts of the
Dominion upon which we should express our feelings, and ask our (Jovernment to
place these iluties the waj' they were before. I think if one branch of industry in
this Dominion needs the fostering care and protection of the (rovernment all
iiranches should receive the same care, and I tliink in this respect we can fairly and
properly ask our (rovernment to place the iiiiit-growers of this Dominion in the
same position as other branches of industry enjo}'." [ lieg to move the resolution
which [ have Just read.

Mr. IIexrv. — In British Columbia we feel the need oi' this very much. We are
Just beginning to get started in growing small fruits. Previous to this the inhabitants
of British Columbia have had to get their supply from California, and wo are be-
ginning now to grow sufficient of these perishable fruits to supply the people there.
If we cannot compete with California and Oregon as to prices, the trouble is they
have got so far advanced in the industry that their fruit comes into the market about
two weeks earlier than ours; conse(|ueiitiy. they have the advantage of their own
market, and after that they supply our mai ket, and it meets the first fruit which we
grow and brings down the ]irices, and this is very much against iis. We consider if
there sliouM be a duty on foreign fruit, evaporated and canned truit, we should be
protected in fresh fruits.

The (,'HAIRMAN. I understand that it is the .Icsire of the mover of this motion
that if this motion be adojited .and the eomnuttec appointed ihey sluill interview the
Minister of (Jiistoins to-morrow.

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Mr. Ai-LAN. — r would malve this further remark, which I think is a very im-
]iortant point, which comes up in the consitlcration of this n-olution and it is this :
A point was mentioned here before that American apples are purchased by Cana-
dian shippei's. Tiiese ai-e shipped tiirouiili here by American shippers and arc sent
(in to (Ireat Britain as Canadian apples, and receive a inucl) higher price asCanailian
apples than they would as American apples. Now, these duties would, to a larye
extent, if not entirely, obviate the dittlculty. and I look upon this point as an im-
portant one.

The !'uEsn»ENT here read the resoluticnis.

Prof. Smith. — The Nova Scotia Assoeiation passed a unaninKJus vote against the
imposition of the duties. I happened to be present when the resclution was j)assed.
The resolutions set up that the re-im))osition of the duties would be of the greatest
injury to the tVuit growers of Nova Scotia.

Mr. Petkrs. — It seems to mo that a resolution so important as this can well
afford to lie on the table till next session. Tliere are questions involved in that
which will largely atfect New Brunswick, and questions which I would like a little
time to consider. 1 do not think an ill result will follow deferring the matter,
because I think the ([uestion is of very great importance. I can very well under-
stand the view of the gentlemen of Ontario, liut tlieie is one thing — if that resolution
was passed it would very largely atfect tlie Maritime interests, particularly New
Brunswick. At the ])i'esent time, in New Brunswick, we are shipjnng eight oi- nine
thousand dollars worth of strawberries to Portland and Boston, and if there was an
imposition of the duty we would be shutting our.selves out of these markets, and
thrown on our own local markets. 1 think we should defer this matter, and consult
with the delegates from the ditferent Provinces and com]jare notes before taking a
vote. I should feel very much better, and be able to give an intelligent reason for
my vote. I move that tlie matter bo deferred until the evening session.

The Chairman suggested to the mover of the resolution that the mutter be
<leferred until the evening session.

The Convention adjourned until 8 ]).m.

EvENiN(t Session.

TuL-RSDAV, 20th Februarv. ISDO.

The Convention resumed at 8 o'clock.

The Phesident. — The first paper that I will call for is one that wa? left over
from the morning session — " i-'ruit Culture in New Brunswick," l>y Mr. S. L. Peters,
of Queenstown.

Mr. Peters. — I regret to say, Mr. President, that Mr. F. P. Sharpo, of Woodstock,
one of the delegates, who was invited lo attend the Convention in the intiM'csi of
the Province of New Brunswick, was not able to come, on account of sickness in lii>
family, so* that I am here alone.

FUUIT Cl'LTtlUE r\ Nl'.W Bllt'NSWicK.

It is my purpose, so fur as 1 may be able to give the gcntlenu'U who are
present at this convention of fruit growers, a plain statement of our present
position in Fruit Culture. 1 could wish that ;in abler pen liaW undertaken the task,
but having been delegated iiy my fellow-citi/ens to reprt^ent this interest at the
present snoeting, I trust I may be jiardoned for intruding my observations, and
to some evtent my personal opinions and expei-ience, on the distinguished hody of
gentlemen i)rcsent who compose this convention. It is only \vithin . tie last thirty
years that Xew Brunswick oiehardists have began tn puy much attention to the
cultivation of improved or grafted fruit. Previous to that time we were content to
grow and use the common seedling apple prndnced fnuu trce». wiK-h s])rang up in
-m:- tieids. aiid from thence ;ransplanled to what was ilien known ;i.- the orchard.
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propagated by grafting in the neighbours' grounds, but if of the more or<Unary kind
the tiee was permitted to stand and produce its fruit all the same. The growers,
acting on the pi-inciple, eat the best tirst, and the poor ones will bo good
when there are no others; and I ought, in justice to our sister Pi-ovince of
Xova Scotia, to say that as the yield of our own orchards was not nearly sufficient
to supply the demand of our home markets, the citizens of that tine Province
(charitably disposed, as they have ever been, towards us) supplied the deficiency
with a quality greatly similar to our own production. But while I make this
reference to the condition of things as they have existed, 1 desire to ))lace it on
i-ecord that New Brunswick orchardists are under a very great obligation to our
Xova Scotia friends for the ailvancenient we have made in fruit culture, while the
inhabitants of our cities have shown their appreciation of their foresight, skill and
labour by a more liberal purchase and consumption of the magnificent and palatable
fruit with which they have supplied our markets. There is a feeling, however,
among our people, that our friends across the bay, seeing that we have been good
customers so many years, should in their shipments send us a larger proportion
ofXo. I's.

Within the period named, I am glad to say that we have made some progress.
The old orchards are dying out through neglect, because their fruit was unsaleable,
and new ones are taking their place, made up of grafted trees, which produce the
best of their kind. To the gentleman who was invited to be present with us as my
co-delegate great credit is due for the valuable assistance i-endered by him in pro-
moting this industry in the Province. His action has been energetic, his labours
unremitting; and I am sure my fellow citizens at home would bear testimony to the
fact that to him l)elongs the honour of awakening our people to the great possibili-
ties within our reach in the culture of the apple and plum. His very entensive
nurseries have been drawn upon by the people to a large extent for their new
orchards; while the product of his magnificent plum orchard is to be found in their
season in all our cities and large towns.

1 regret to say that wo are not yet in a position to supply our home markets
with even the soft autumn fruit, while in winter-keeping varieties we are sadly
deficient. Theie exists a prevailing impression among our nurserymen (and we have
a number of them) that winter fiuits cannot be successfully grown with us. 1
think this impression is not wholly warranted, and for the purpose of dispelling
that impression and giving ocular demonstration of tl.e position 1 take in the matter,
I have taken the pains to place before this Convention some samples of winter fruit
grown by myself. It may be true that they may not be equal to samples grown in
those piince of apple-growing districts 'The Annapolis and Cornwallis \"alle3-s of
Xova Scotia or the western portions of Ontario and the favoured disti'icts of Quebec ;"
yet I submit they are sufficiently fine to warrant their extended cultivation in such
districts of our Provirice as may be found favcturable to their proiluction. The
samples shown are the product:* of ti'oes secured from Xova Scotia nurseries ainl
from Rochester, N.Y., U.S.

Beginning at a point say twenty miles distant from the city of St. .lohn, on
the valiey of the St. John Hivor, and following , it until Slieffielil, in the County of
Sunbury, is reached, a d i-t.-ince of some forty-five miles, lie> a tract of beautiful
country, which, in my judgi.ient, will sueees>lully produce the best varieties of winter
fruits; and had our people the courage to place t'ven a modeiate acreage under culti-
vation we might lie in a p(jsition in a few years Id supply at least a portion of the
winter fruit required in our provincial markets, ilul in sjieaking of our possibilities,
I should be doing an iiijn-tiee to Xew Brunswick did \ not state that the eai'ly
autumn fruits are very successfully grown throughout the entire valley of the St.
John, from the point first mentioned until the (iiand Falls is reached, a distance of
some 200 miles. Xor is their successful culture confined to this district alone, iiut
in rho slopes along the valleys of the numerous tributaries of the St. John are to be
found many orchards bearing autumn fruits of good ([ualit}'.

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Among tlio loadiiiii; varieties of autiimii uiid early winter fruits grown are tho
Duchess ot'01denburi!;h, Kaily Harvest, Ited Astraclian, Emperor, Fnnieuse, St. Law-
ix'iico. As an autumn f. uit, with us, tlie Duchess stands in the from rank, and when
grown in orchards, where the trees are phintod sufttciently far apart to admit the
sun's bright riij^s, command a ready market at fuir-paj'ing prices. It is one of our
most prolific and early bearers. The Red Astraclian is not nearly so extensively
cultivated, but is a good fruit with us and commands reaily sale. The Kmperoi- has
probably seen its palmy days in the St. John market, where, possibly, from its
immense size and beautiful appearance, more than for its quality, it had a fine sale
foi- a few years. Buyers now pass it by to a very large extent. As an early winter
apple the Fameuse has no superior. The groat drawback to its extended cultivation
is its tendency to scab, and 1 shall bo veiy much gratified indeed if, in the experience
of any gentleman present, we may be able to letirn a remedy. So far as my owix
experience goes 1 may say that the liberal application of wood ashes has proved very
beneficial, but by no means a complete remedy.

In the cultivation of winter fruit I have succeeded well with the Russet, Xorth-
ern Spy, Bishop's Pippin, Rhode Islam! Greening and Tolman Sweet. The trees of
these varieties are perfectly hardy and have proven goal bearers. My meth'-ds of
cultivation may not be in accord with that of gentlemen present, but as an old •• saw "
has it : " In a multitutlc of councillors there issafety !" I will venture to give it, hoping
that by the fi'iendly criticisms it may evoke, to learn of its eri-ors, and how in the future
a better methoil may he adopted. In planting out a 3'oung orchard I would insist
upon having the land in a good state of cultivation to st;irt with. After planting the
trees would seed down to timothy and clover, after the first year, taking care that
every 3'ear, for at least five, the soil about the trees to be thoroughly worked with a
spailing fork for say 3 feet from the tree, and sufficient manure added to give the
young tree a good, strong, healthy growth, but not to encourage an ovei-growtli. My
reason for preferring the fork to the plough and cultivator is to prevent the marring
nl' the tree in any way, which it is almost impossible to prevent by their use. A young
tree with its bark torn otf, if even to a small extent, is badly handicapped in the
race for life and prmluctiveness. Cared for in this way, and pi-oper attention to prun-
ing. I tind no difficulty to make plenty of wood gi-owth and preserve the tree in
proper shape and condition to fruit heavil3^ After the trees have come nicely into
bearing i have not thought it absolutely essential to continue the cultivation about
them every year, and have, as rule, kept the whole orchard in grass, top dro-sing
liberally, as well to increase the yield of hay as the yield of fruit.

In the matter of pruning and the proper time to prune there is such a diveisity
of opinion among the best orchardists that I shall scarcely venture an opinion ; but
liy your permission will state \ny practice: Jieginning with the young tree, there is
never very much difficulty in forming it in any desired shape. My preference is
for a medium low tree, and I therefore encourage the liranches to spread as much as
possible, when the limbs are raised sufficiently high to enable the cultivating pi'ocess
(o be conveniently ilone. I avoid, as far as possible, the cutting of any large branch,
believing it to be everyway better if the branch needs removing to do so when it is
small. It the tree, during its growth, makes too much foliage in the centime, I pre-
t'er to prune the nuiin bi'anches to cutting them otf. There does not seem to bo
any difficult}' to secure the healing ot'a sn)all wound, while a larger cutting always
remains a wound, ami often a dangerous one to the life of the tree. When the small
liranches only are lenioved we have experienced no bad results, if <lone between the
1st of April and the 1st of June. However, lam o])en to conviction, and shall be
glad to have the exi)erienceofothers present on the subject. With our trees in bearing
Hiir thoughts very naturally turn on the subject of marketing the fruit, and as this
pai't of my subject is fraught with the deepest interest to both the producer anil the
consumer^ I ti'-ust I may be pardoned a few plain words in reference to it. The
orchardist. with his fruit carefully gathered, has now passed the lines which strictly
apply to cultivation and iii-oiluciion ; his work in that line is completed the very
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propoi-ly 8o) thf role of the morclmnt or inaimlacturor to a very large extent.
Assuming, tlu'i), these premises to be correct, the tirst thing that naturally would
force itselt' on his attention would he the package in which to market his fruit.
For size and convenience of handling there is perhaps no superior to the standard
ap})le barrel ; it is strong, will stand rough handling, and is not expensive, and
presents, when new, a rather neat appearance.

Packing will now be next in oider, and just then is the time when the owner
should recall to his mind that most beautiful bible admonition, "Do unto others as
yo would have them do unto you," and if acting upon its teaching, i ventui-e the
assertion that we should not hear any complaints of deceptive, or, if you please,
dishonest packing. It is iny judgment that no orchardist caiiatford to pack las fruit
decei)tivel3', and if any portion of tlie barrel is to be a little better than the other,
let it be those in the centre. Having done this he is not afraid or ashamed to place
his name upon the barrels, with the grade of ap])le and kind it contains. In
doing so he feels every inch a man, strengtliened by the approval of conscience to
battle for the I'ight. and making for himself a reputation in his business, which will
go far to secure tinancial success, and giving to Canada a status in the foreign fruit
markets of the world wliich will insure the i-eady sale of our jiroducts at the
highest quotations. Our interests are too great, our reputation for fair and lionour-
able dealing too sacred and important; to permit a package of Canadian fruit to be
placed upon foreign market which lias not been proj)erly graded and honourably
packed. In giving expressiim to these opinions with j-eference to foreign markets,
permit me to add that the same conditions require to be fultilled and with quite as
much thoughtful care, in grading and packing for our home markets. I sincerely
trust that this convention will give its undivitled support to this matter.

In the culture of the plum we have been fairly successful, and in addition to
other growers, Mr. P. V. Sharp, of Upper Woodstock, hasa very tine orchard of some
three acres in extent, and grows from 4,000 tot!, 000 boxes, containing one peck each,
per year. These are shipped to our leading provincial markets in considerable
quantities, while many of them find their way to the cities of Portland and Boston.

Mr. Sharp's method of culture has been generally atloptcd in this Province by
plum growers, which may be briefly described by saying that he is an advocate of
close planting and high eultui-e, and laying down his trees in the autumn.

Ilis culture is confined lo three or four leading vaiieties, prominent among
which is the Mooer's Arctic, a very hardy plum, with fruit of good size, and commands
a good price in the market. Orchardists in other sections of the province, parti-
cularly along the valley of the St. John and its tributaries, meet with fair success in
its culture also, by adopting Mr. Sharp's method ; while a few succeed well by allow-
ing the trees to remain without disturbance and in an upright condition during the
winter.

Pears are not extensively cultivated. A few trees, however, are to be found
in some of our- best orchards, which have largely been plantetl as an experiment.

I have been quite successful in growing the 'Flemish Beauty,' ' Cla})p's
Favourite' and ' Bartlett.' I have some three other varieties, but the trees have not
yet fruited. The two first varieties come to greAt perfection, and are exceedinirlv
fine in flavour.

Our small-fruit culture is quite an important industry with us, and consists of
the cultivation of the "Strawberry," "Easpberry," "Gooseberry." "Currant" and
" Blackberry.'' In my reference to these small fruits and their culture in New
Brunswick, permit me lo say that the name of 1). P. AVetmore. Esq., of Clifton,
deserves especial mention as being the pioneer in their cultivation. His extensive
fruit gardens are the subject of very general ailmiration. and at certain seasons of the
3-ear i)resent a scene of great beauty and activity. I may be pardoned from further
personal I'eference to growers, as the limits ot this pa])er would not admit of it. I
may say, however, that we have a goodly miiuber of gentlemen engaged in the
business of producing small fruits for our mai'kets. and who find it both pleasant a
profitable.

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Jt would muke this paper much too len,y:thy if I were to enter upon the modes
of cultivation adopted in small fruit culture. It may fairly be presumed that all
present are familiar with their cultivation and the rc([uirements connected therewith.

Our small fruit is lari;-ely marketed iu quart boxes, packed in crates of various
sizes, containini-- from IS qts. to 5-i qts. each. To give you some little idea of the
extent of this cultivation with us, I may «ay that in the village of Clifton alone
there is under cuiavation some ten acres of strawberries, i^ivini;- a net income of
about $4,500 per year over expenses incurred in picking- and shipping. The cultiva-
tion of all the smaller fruits are very sucessfully prosecuted in various sections of oui-
Province.

I have thus briefly referred to some of the points of general interest in our
provincial fruit culture, and not desiring to wearj- you. I will close by expressing
ray most sincere desire that the results of our ])resen"t meeting may have the ett'ect
of giving an increased interest to a very pleasant line of ouV farm husbandry, and
through the information imparted by the valuable j)apers read, and the discussions
thereon, we shall be able to make fruit culture much more profitable in the future
than in the past.

The Pkesident. — This paper is now open for discussion.

Mr. Allan. — Are the trees you plant standards, half standards or dwarfs?

Mr. Petkrs. — Standards.

Mr. Allan. — What distance are they apart in the oi-chard ?

Mr. ^^ETERS. — Mr. Sharpe is an advocate of close planting. He insists upon
planting 1 ^ feet apart. I ))lant my orchard from 25 to 30 feet. Near the city of
Fredericton a gentleman put out 4,000 trees, and put them so close together that he
had to take out every other tree to give them a little sunshine. As a rule, 25 to 30
feet will sufHce.

Mr. Allan. — We go so far as to say that in standard trees in practice we find
with many varieties that 40 feet is not too close. In giving advice, I tell jieople to
err on the right side and to plant them 40 feet apart. The New Brunswick system
of cultivation does not sti-ike me as a proper system, according to our ideas. We
believe in cultivating the young orchard for the first two years, and working it to
hoed crops. If the orchard becomes too heavily wooded my system is to seed down
with clover, but still to keep the top dressing and use wood ashes and night soil. 1
<!ertainly admire the picture which Mr. Peters drew of a New Brunswick apple
packei". It is a beautiful pictui-e, but if presented in our Province to the ordinary
apple packer it would startle him. There is great need of impressing upon the
people generally the necessity of careful packing. It is a most important point to
be taken into consideration, and we cannot speak of it or press it too earnestly upon
the people.

Mr. WooLVERTON. — I quite agree with Mr. Allan as to planting the orhard — that
is, in rich soils and with most varieties that grow to a large size. I have Greening
apple trees on light soil — a deep, sandy loam — and they are of a good age, seventy
or eighty years old. They are planted that distance apart, and the branches are
interlaced that distance, so that it is (|uite evident ihat they are not too far apart.
For smaller growing varieties that would be too far; 30 feet might be sufttcient, and
on certain soils. With regard to the mode of pruning, I do not think so much of
making the trees spiead and keeping the top as I once did. I want to stud}- the
natural growth of the trees, and, if the tendency is upright, to favour that, and thin
out merely to give development to the trees. If Ave interfere with the- natural
growth of the tree v/e shall find trouble in keeping out extra shoots and sprouts
fi-om the centre that will be sure to spring out. Mr. Peters was saying something
about the difficulty of curing large cuts. We believe that to make large cuts is a
great mistake; it is almost a death blow to the tree the way many orchardists do.
Where it is necessary to cut I certainly think the tree should be covered with some
coating to prevent the action of the weather and the air up(in the wood. A covering
of some kind of varnish, shellac or paint, would answer the purpose. Mr. Peters, I
think, did not intend to say that the standard barrel was a two-bushel b:irrel.

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Mr. Peters. — That is what we consider the standard barrel. Wo take the Xova
Scotia bari'cl as a standard.

Mr. R, W. Starr. — The size is 2(1 inches over I!) inches bulge, and 17 inches
head, inside measurement. It is the standard flour barrel size, holding two and a
half bushels.

Ml'. WooLVERTON. — It holds nearly three bushels.

Ml'. Starr. — It would hold more than three bushels of grain, but two and a lialf
of apples.

Mr. C. R. II. Starr. — The same barrel in Now York will hold 180 lbs. of potatoes.

Mr. BoRTiiwicK, Ottawa.— I ha<l some apples from Nova Scotia last season, and
the size of the barrel is two and a half bushels.

Mr. Allan. — The intention of the Government in framing the Act by which the
size of the barrel is reguiateil was that it should contain throe biishels. The size is
so given by the Dominion Act. I do not think it is quite a three bushel barrel, but
that was the supposition in framing the Act.

Mr. R. W. Starr. — The standard bushel of the Dominion is the Imperial bushel
level tilled. Under the Dominion statute there are no heaped bushels. The standard
apple barrel will hold three of these Imperial bushels.

Mr. Peters. — We do not measure in that way. We are compelled to give full
measure.

Mr. Kew. — 1 was glad to hear the remarks to-night in reference to planting. The
first orchard I planted wassixteen or seventeen years ago, and the piece of land Hguied
out conveniently at 28 feet one way and 88 the other to get the rows. I thought at the
time the i-ows were pretty wide apart, but the ti-eeswoie small. We did not put any-
thing between them; still, we had plenty of room to cultivate. Wo cultivated the land
thoroughly for ten years, and then seeded it down after that time. It has never l»een
ploughed since. Those trees planted sixteen <>r seventeen years ago — Greenings and
Baldwins — now have their limbs interlaced 2 or 3 feet, i quite agree with Mr. Peters in
his system of gi'owing trees. I believe in a tree of medium height, growing the limbs
near to the ground, but not too near that you cannot get i-ound conveniontly for pick-
ing. When loaded with fruit the lower limbs will be near the ground. I have lost
faith in severe pruning. It was thought in our neighborhood that we could notgjosv
apples unless we cut and slashed the tree every year. 1 believe, and my belief is
based on my own experience and that of other growers, that the tree should bo
thoroughly trained during the first five (jr six years. There is no trouble, if the
orchard is properly tended to, in forming that tree for its lifetime. I think 1 never
had occasion to cut a limb off of any of my tieesafter they had been planted ^ixj'ears
except there may have been a case now and then when the limb would meet with
some damage — either the wind or ice would break it — and then I would cut it off for
appearance sake, but 1 always nuule it a practice to bind the wound, anil that wound
had never taken any water. Binding will always pievent water getting in and deca}'-
ing the limb. So far as regards the distance and trimming, I believe we cannot grow
fruit without the wood, and the more wood you cut away the less blussoms you will
have; and suppose the tiee does over blossom, the ffuit of itself will naturall}' thin
out. Last yeai', I took out of that orchard planted sixteen or seventeen years ago, an
average of 100 barrels to the acre. In regard to the cultivation I let a large number of
hogs run in the orchanl. I raised considerable coarse grain, and buy a good deal. I be-
lieve that letting the hogs run in the orchard is the most convenient, thorough and profi-
table way of cultivating the orchard, and there will be no necessity for manuring,
I think the system of keeping large grown hogs in the orchard t.^vci-y year is a good
one. 1 take them out when I am picking, and when I pack I draw the apples under
cover. I pick into barrels, and a man can draw as many barrels in a day as eight
men can pick. It is then possible for me to pack in any kind of weather. As soon
as the apples are out of the orchard the hogs eat up the refuse, and when winter
comes on my orchard is clean. In regard to plums, I do not think much of the one
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extra variety. Mooor'w Arctic was introduced into our locality', ami our impression
ia that it is no l)ettor than the ordinary wild plum. I do not know that I have any-
thing fui'thor to say in regard to apple culture.

Ml'. .Sii?:pnERD. — How lar<j;e is your orchaid ?

Mr. Kkw. — I have 25 acres altogether.

Mr. John Denton. — f think, in growing young orchards, either apple or pear
trees, if the fallen fruit were kept ott' the ground in a largo nieasuie the attack of
insects would i)e renelled. The principal fiuit which I raise is pears, but I havean apple
orchard as well. Ihe pears which we raise we do not find it necessar}- to spray. Wo
aio troubled very little with thecodling moth. Inone part of our orchard we have left
some Snow trees, and the codling moth is beginning to work on the pears in the imme-
diate vicinity of these apples, and in no other place. I attribute this to the fact that
the ground is not kept clear of the fruit. I think if a person started a new orchard
he should see to it that the fruit is kept from the ground, and thereby he would pre-
vent the attack of the coilling moth. The reason our pears are kept so clean is that
they :ire more valuable and as soon as they are full size they are sent into market.

Mr. Pettit. — We cannot obtain any such results in strawberries, but he has not
given us particulars with respect to bis method of cultivation. He has either an extra
soil for strawberries, or else he has a very good market — a market which I regret
we do not live netirer to. I am sure it must be the production or the superior market
that has enabled him to i-ealize $5U0 per acre. It might be the cultivation, but T am
inclined to think he does not want a better market.

Mr. I'eteus. — We think we grovv a superior fruit, and thusfar4iave hail no ditti-
culty in finding a market for all we produce. We aie not able to find here a market
for all our pioduct ; but this village I have spoken of finds a market for nearly all its
strawberries in the United States. There is scarcely any of the fruit of that village
put on our St. John market, unless the prices there are greater than the prices obtained
in the United States.

Mr. Sm[tii. — What is about the average price paid per quart ?

Mr. Peters. — The growers outside of this village are fully able to supjdy our
provincial market, and if these strawberries were placed upon the market it woukl
cause a glut, so that we would not get moie than 5 cents per quart. One year, for
about two days, we had a glut in the market, and I think we then sold to bu^-ers from
the United States, who weie making syrups, at 5 or 0 cents per pound. I may
.say that the American fruit is imported bj- our merchants eai-lier in the season, when
we cannot produce them; but I have known the American fruit on our market to be
selling from 12 to 14 cents per quart and our own fruit in the same market at the
same time bringing 20 cents, and quick sales.

Mr. A. M. Smith. — What is the average price ?

Mr. Peters. — About 9 cents per quart, taking the season through, after expenses
are paid. I have realized 10 cents for my whole growth; but from 8i to 9 cents is
considered a good thing.

Mr. Starratt. — [s that gross price or net price?

Mr. Peters.— Net. It costs about two cents per quart to pick them. Mr. Wetmoie
has got a name in the Boston market, and has no difficulty in finding a ready sale
for all that he can produce.

A Member, — Have you any growth of trees there ?

Mr, Peters.— I may say that we have a fairly good growth ; but I have not
examined the trees sufficiently here to be able to make a comparison. We have not
a very rapid growth, and we do not want it. We want sufficient to keep the tree in
good health, but not an overgrowth, so that the wood is matured at the end of the
season. With regard to packing, I will just relate one circumstance which occurred
this present autumn: A clergyman and his wife were staying with me for a few
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jiml we had tlie Kameuse apple on llie table. The la<ly saiil. 'Now Mr. Peters, I
want you to pack us a barrel of those apples," The hii>bantl saitl. "11" wo get a
barrel' of this kind, wo will eat them tip and have nothini; left f<»r the winter. Let
us divide it." So they had a barrel filled with one-ihird ]{iissets, one-third Yellow
Bellfloworand the other third Fanicuse. I saw them aliout a month afterwards, and
thoy said: '"Those apples wore very tine, and are all .i,'one. They were just as jjood
in the middle of the barrel as on top." That is the way I like to pack my apples.
T said : '• Your husband could tell you why I did that. Jlo said: •' You have me in
a corner." Then I said: 'I was in business in 8t. .lohii with another brothei-, and
whenever we would open a barrel that was the same all the way through we had
the habit of saying: "The man whopackeil that barrel belonged to the right church."

Mr. PETTiT. — \Yhat was the number of (quarts to the acre?

Mr. Peters. — That is strawberrio'^. 1 remember a half aire being cultivate<l in
the district of this village, and four thousand tive hiindied quarls were marketed
irom half an acre. 1 would not be afraid to make that statement at home, where I
am known, and I trust you will accept it; but if an average per acre were given, I
sh>'uld say that (i.OOU (juarts is considereil good.

Mr. BicKE. — I think it is a pity that the production of large fruit iu New
Brunswick i> so verv low. I see the exports from New JJrunswick last j'ear were
3,U0(» bushels, while tVom Nova .Scotia it was i]()2,(»U0.

P.VCTS AND THEORIES REI.ATIXO To THE PeHI<»1> of LiPE AND TEX1>EXCV To DeoEXERATE
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I'residext Worcester County HoRTicti/riRAi. Societv.

Man can understand, to a certain extent, the organism of tlowers — their petals,
stamens ami pistils, and their functions, and the microscopic pollen or fructifying
particles, which the scientific horticultui-ist makes use of in cross-fiertilizing or
bvbridi/.ing. tei' ling to produce new and distinct varieties — a ]»rocess which, under
his skilful guidance, seems destineil to end only with creation itself. He sees the
offices of insects in transporting the pollen from flower to flower, thus, without the
aid of man, pnnlncing seeds containing germs in numberless variety, yet keeping
each variety distinct. In the apple and ]>ear no two seedlings thus far appear to be
alike; there is but one Baldwin apple, and one Bartlett jjcar. and but one of each vt'
the hundreds of sorts that have Wen designated by name. While horticultural
science assures us of the germinal principle of seeds, we are as yet unlearned in the
method by which the (pialities of flowers and fruits are transmitted from one to
another through the pollen, but this remains to be ascertained hereafter.

The study and practice of horticulture have a tendency to raise man to a higher
le\*el ; it f|uickens and intensities his senses of sight, smell and taste, and increases
his i-apacity for the enjoyment of life. How n-adily the eye of the horticulturist
detects upon our tables new flower, fruit or vegetable. How quickly he scents its
fragrance, and how fastidious and sensitive is his taste when a new fruit is brought
to the test, and how diplomatic, yet emphatic, is his language if it is found deficient
in any particular.

The philosophy and science of horticulture seom to have been understootl even
in the remotest ages ; they are mentioned by Confucius, who lived .')5(» years before
the Christian era. Ho speaks of seed planting thus : " Let it bo sowa and covered
uj). the grountl being the same, and the time of sowing ukewise the same. It
grows rapidly up, and when the full time is come it is all found tolierii»e. Although
there nuiy be inequalities of produce, that is owing to the ditt'ercnce of soil, as rich
or poor; to the unequal nourishment afforded by the rains and dews : to the different
ways in which man has performed his business in reference to it."

The (rreeks, even as far back as the fifth ccntur}'. were not strangers to horti-
culture ; they speak of the details of its jiractice with as much intelligence, precision
and enthusiasm as do many at the present day. Many of the same general prin-
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tliinii,'h not probably by artiticiul cross-feilili/ation, as now practised. Oiio of their
poets gives the following desi'ription of his fruit garden :

" Thr hniiuh licrt- IhikIs iM-ntiitli the wii^lity |Msir,
And vcnlnnt iilivistlniiiisli rtmiul tin- Vfiir ;
Tlic liiiliiiy Npirit iif tlif wrsttTii ^'alt'
Ktfvnul I ri'iitlH's on fniitn iintiiu)j'ht to fail :
Kac'li (Iroppiiig \»-iir a follnwiii^' |«'ar Niipplii'M —
On .ipplcM, applfw ; tijfM nu ti^'s arise ;
Tlif «iinn> iniUl sfasoii ffivcs tlif l)liH)nis to lilow,
The buds ti» liardt-n and tin- fruits to^'row.''

The term "degeneration," in its larger definition, when used with reference to
fruits and vegetaldes. is generally understood to apply to those kinds which, having
been cultivated for a longer or shorter period of time, and having had their day and
generation, seem to have run out, and no longer to retain their original characteristics.

Nature seems to have endowed every plant known in the vegetable kingdom
with an allotted term or definite peiiodof lifi> ; especially when growing in its native
climate and soil, and surrounded by comlitions not unfavourable to its life, growth,
maturity, ami method of repioduction.

In attempting the inquiry into the period of longevity of fruit-bearing trees,
and fruits growing thereon, together with the fruit-bearing bushes, shrubs, canes
antl vines, I find but few data relating to the subject, and must rely largely u]ton my
personal observation and expeiience, and my own recollections of I lie past tifty years,
but too short by several hundred years for a broad understanding of the subject.

All the fruit-bearing plants are naturally grown fVom seed, planted by the
intricate processes of nature, and by art of man. The seed contains all inherent
natural forces requisite for reproducing its kind ; and the seed plant seems endoweil
with the vitality and functions rcijuisite for, and pertaining to, its growth, nuiturity.
and reproduction during its destined period of life.

The time allotted for the continuance of plant life seems as variable as the
external features of the plant itself. While the limit of human life may bo three
score 3'ears and ten, in tree or plant life we know it may be many times tjwee score
years. The average life-time of the lower animals is well known; but compara-
tively little is known of the life of fruit-bearing trees, and even less regarding the
time our popular varieties of fruits will continue to be produced in perfection under
the prolonged cultivation by the art of the sagacious horticulturist.

The causes, natural and artificial, of fruits degenerating and becoming (mworthy
of cultivation are at present but imperfectly understood, as the many sorts seem to
be subjected to many varying conditions. In the case of each, we have to consider
its natural hardiness, and longevity, the influences of .soil and climate, the stimulat-
ing effects of liberal cultivation, the mysterious influences of engrafting, both as to
stock and scion. All these, and similar questions, underlying the subject, are so
clouded and obscure that we can neither fully explain nor comprehend them.
Nevertheless, there are some facts that seem to throw a little light upon the subject.
While, perhaps, it is utterly impossible to fully verify the cau.es that seem to
augment the degenerating tendencies in fruits, the facts we rely upon seem apparent,
and although the evidence by which we trace the causes seems partially circum-
stantial, yet it is une(|Uivocal, so far as it goes, and cannot well be sot aside.-in
communities whore cultivation has been pursued for fifty years or more by " the art
which doth mend nature."

The pear trees grown from seeds which were planted by the earliest settlers of
this country were of a robust habit of gmwth, attaining largo size and great age,
and have outlived many generations of men ; and of those known to have borne
fruit as early as 1063, some are still alive. The pear tree is indigenous in sections
of the northern temperate zone, flourishing as far north as the fifty-seventh degree
of latitude, and is grown in this country from the British provinces to Mexico, In
acclimating and growing the pear in a warmer climate its pi-imitive habit of long
life seems to be partly lost or impaired. Growers long since abandoned planting
the seeds fVom the original fruit, using instead the seetls of the engrafted sorts,

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which aro of a more tender hal)it. by this piattice bree«lins,' into the i)ear tree an
inheient tendency to shortness of life. The continueil ])roccs8 of engrafting and
forcing hy high cultivation and also growing in an impoverished soil — each and all
may exert some influence in the direction of degeneracy ; and it is certainly evident
that the trees are everywhere tending to earlier fruitage and shorter life.

The almost universal practice of ])ropagating desirable sorts by engrafting or
buddir.g has undoubtedly- the effect of gradually, but surely, working a serious
injury to some fruit-boarmg trees. The tendency of continuously planting the seeds
of^ improved sorts is very much the same as what is c;illed in cattlemen's parlance
" in-and-in breeding," which, if long continued in a given line, is a sure and constant
cause of degeneration or running out.

Now, if the tree I'rom an}* cause is losing its natural stamina and force, or
becomes defective or disojised, the weakening of its natural functions very soon be-
comes manifest in the fruit. The St. Michael, in its day the glory of the pears, has
now become wholly unworthy of cultivation. Sometimes it seems to I'ocuperate in
new countries ami thrives for a time in a virgin soil, but soon relapses into its now
normal condition. The Flemish Beauty affords another illustration of degenerating
tendency. It was first brouglit into notice in 1834. and promised well for many
years, but has now become unworthy of contiimed cultivation.

In the catalogue of trees grown in the nursery of the late William Kenrick in
the year 18:»8 (he being then one of the prominent nurserymen in Massachusett.n),
I find, in the class termed "'Old Pears," twelve sorts, of which not one has been
shown on this society's tables tor years. In chuss second, termed "Xew Pears," I
find eighty-seven, of which seventeen varieties only are seen at our exhibitions, and
but four of these are generally approved, viz., the Bartlett, Bpsc, Seckel and
Angouleme, and the rest are onl}' occasionall}* shown. In the list of new pears
received in this country from Euro|M5 in the years 1834 to 183ti, consisting of a
Iiundred and forty varieties, which have been tried by our cultivators and (most of
them) shown on our tables within the past forty years, I find but two that are now
considered worthy of cultivation ; and Mr. Kenrick mentions a hundred other sorts
received but not tried.

In the catalogue of the late William Prince, of Flushing, N.Y., for the year
1839, designating by name three hundred and thirty-seven varieties, I find but
thirteen varieties that are seen on our tables. Then we are mtule aware of the very
numerous sorts of pears which wore being brought into notice foi'ty or fifty years
ago — more than three hundred and fifty varieties — out of which less than twenty
are on our premium list for the present year, and the other three hundred and thirty
have nractically gone out of cultivation. In the meantime, very many more sorts
have been introtluced, in large part seedlings of American origin ; and out of this
vast number twenty-five varieties would be quito as many as are woithy approval
and encouragement.

Now, it would be unfair to state that this very large number found unworthy
of cultivation have degenerated; doubtless many causes contributed to influence
their rejection. Some were found poor growers; the fruit in many cases lacked the
qualities essential in good pears; some seemed naturally predisposed to blight and
other disease; and many secmttl unsuited to the soil and climate.

But it appears, although difficult to pi-ove, in the case of some sorts once highly
esteeme<l for geneial cultivation, but now become degenerate, that the tree has
alrt'ady lived the time allotted by nature, and its pnuluction of fruit in its enfeebled
condition is prolonged only by nursing or by engrafting on other and vigorous stocks.
This suggestion opens quite another phase of the question, viz.: To what extent can
fruitage be prolonged by the process of engrafting oi" budding?

Thei-e wjis foi-raerly an adage : " lie who plants pears plants them for his heirs,"
while now he who plants pears gathers a crop in a few years ; and the trees mature,
bear fruit and die, even before he passes away. But it can easily be demonstrated
that the natural lives of the original sorts of* peai' trees have been longei- than the
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of Iruit from an original stock can be artificiully pioloiigeil by on,i,'iaftiii^f to an iin-
iletcrniinod extent.

Tlie a|i|>Ie trees that were ifrown from soe<l planted by the early settlers, and
cultivated as early as l(;(i;{, in nuiny instances proved loii,if-live<l, some reachinir the
aye of 200 or more years. These trees attained j^roat size, and bore immense crops
of natural fruit. 1 know of apple trees still bearing good cro])s that have evciy
appearance of being 150 years old ; and J know of engrafted ajjple trees moie than
sixty years old tiiat are still j)roductivc and unimpaired. On the other hand, I can
point to an orchard which was set forty-tive years ago, ami has received higli culti
vation, tiiat has already bec(»ine old and worthless, having no force to make healthy
wood or bear fruit. And ajiple orchards in some of the north-western States do ikH
average more tiian twenty years in bearing. The ajjple is naturally longdivcd, both
tree and fiuit.

Tlie process of degenerjilion or decay of the a]>ple seetus to be less rapid than
that of the pear. Oul of sixty varieties, mostly of American origin, grown lift}'
years ago, more than forty are now grown and esteemed. In fact, 1 can recall but
few sorts once extensively grown that are proving worthless; and in reviewing the
history of the apple it must be admitted that it is not only the most valuable fruit in
this section of the country, but also long-lived, and is manifesting at piesent but few
signs of decay.

The Earlj' Harvest aiul the Newton Pippin seem to be on the wane, and a few
more are tending in that direction. On the other hand, the llhode Islaixl (xreening.
known in cultivation for 150 years, is seemingly as good as ever, both in tree and
fruit, and promises to last for a long time. The Costard, one of the oldest apples
still grown in England, was recorded in the thirteenth century.

Among the fruits that were formerly plentiful, the peach is the best demonstra-
tion of degenerating tendencies. It is the one that ^eeras least able to withstand the
departure from its normal condition occasioned by engrafting, and modern usage,
and the etlects of cliuKite.

In former years the ])each was grown from the stone exclusively, ami engrafting
was not practised. Then the trees not only escaped disease, but withstood tiic vicis-
situdes of the climate unimpaired, and produced abundant crops. The ground under
them, within the memoiy of many now ])resont, used to be literally covered with
luscious fruit at the season of ri])ening ; while the life of a ])each tree often exteiuled
to rift}' years, and by cutting Itack to the ground and allowing it to sprout from the
root, to even a much longer period.

But when the nurserymen commenced to prolong the existence of improved
varieties of fruit by budding, not many years elansed before the lo.ss of original
stamina and hardiness became apparent. Before long (in 181S) that destructive
disease known as the ''yellows " crept in. This was first noticed or described in
print by a nurseryman in 1823 ; it was very soon ascertained to bo contagious, and
that the disease had come to stay. In the northern sections of the countiy i)each
growing, always precarious, now seems utterly ruined.

The question of actual degeneration seems fairly sfttled in the poach tree, and
the fruit follows the tree and varieties have become lost. Now the question naturally
arises. Can the peach be restored? Evidently not until the budded trees are
thoroughly extirpated, root and branch. We must resort to the custom ;' our
ancestors, of growing trees from seeds, anil these seeds should be jirocured from
sources whore disease is unknown in any torm. Theti we may hope with reasonable
certainty for another period of healthy "peach trees ami luscious fruit, provided all
diseased trees are dug out and burned up.

Many sorts of ])eache8 reproduce their like from the pit. Those fixed strains
should be encouraged, and painstaking cultivators might imjtregnate the blossoms
of such ^*ith pollen of good sorts. By saving the stones of fruit thus pioduced they
will material^ increase their chances of success in producing new and desirable
varieties.

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The cherry ami plum do not manifest a tendency to deijenerate ; they seem to
sutler throuirh injury from insect enemies rather than from any inherent morhid
eomlition. The varieties i;ro\vn l>y tlie earlier cultivators are still known nnil
esteemed, manifestini;. even under the influence of repeated engrafting and of arti-
ficial miKles of cultivation, n decided temlcncy to lont; life. Cultural practices which
seem to have impaired the longevity of the pear and peach, ap)>arently have little
if any effect upon the cherry ami plum, thus leaving the question of degeneration in
(•on>iileral>le doubt.

Among the fruits termed " small I'ruits " the strawberry furnishes the clearest
evidence as to its duration of life. Of this fruit, as nearly as 1 can recall, the kinds
that have been cultivated thrive about thirty years, although there have been a few
instances t»f longer duration, ami some whose term has been shorier.

Of twenty sorts grown by nurserymen and advertised fifty years ago, not one
is known in cultivation, if we except the Alpine, which seems to be perpetual, as
tlocs also the wild or native strawberry. Within the past forty years hundreds of
varieties have been jiroduced from seed, brought into n<ttice. and are now gone to
give place to new seedlings; and but few now extensively grown have been known
to cultivation twenty years. Of fifty-one varieties grown in the nurseries of the late
William R. Prince in 183}>. not one remains. The strawberry reproduced fron»
runners gnuiually becomes enfeebled and unproductive, and passes away, giving
place to new and vigourous kinds raised from seed, which seems to be Nature's mode
ot' reproduction.

The raspberry, blackberry and currant are long-lived, and sorts that were grown
as far back as the memory of man runneth ai-e as good now as over, favourable con-
ditions being equal. New seedlings are brought out from time to time, which, as
novelties, have a tendency to supplant the older sorts, but the Antwerp, Kranconia.
Fastoltt. Knevett's and Northumberland raspberries, and a dozen others, are just as
gool as ever. Neither do th« blackberries or currants, when well grown, give much,
if any. evidence of degeneration. W^hen the}' fail it may fairly bo attributed to the
influence of poor soil and cultivation.

Vegetables, especially those annuall}- grown from .seed, do not degenerate ; seeds
may become mixe*l and new sorts may be jtroduced, but the annuals cannot be
classed among plants that degenerate. .Some seasons are found unfavourable to the
development "and growth of certain kinds, and new sorts are l»eing continually
introduced and tried.

The y)otato. indigenous to the mountainoussectionsof3[exico and South America
'inly. is. consequently, when cultivated here, far removed from its native home; and
it affords us the best illustration of the importance of renewal i)y .seed. As usually
propagated from the tubei-. it grows and thrives well for about twenty-five years,
after which it manifests a very decided tendency to degenerate; and new seedlings
are resorted to, which, in their turn, will last a given time and protluce good crops.
Within my own experience. I have grown the Black Rusty Coat, Long Red, Chen-
ango. Rohan. Peach Blow, ('arter, .Tackson White, Dover. Davis' Seedling, Kidney,
.Stjite '"t Maine. Karly Rose and Hebron, and several other sorts, but only two of
these are now cultivaied.

And. while >eriou~ apprehensions are quite generally entertained concerning
the deteriority of plant life and length of vigorous life of the larger and smaller
fruit.*, and while the life and vigour of trees an<l plants depends largely upon the
«oil and climate, the health of the seed and scion, and the jdant food in adequate
supply for the nourishment of its yearly growth and longevity — where all these
con<iiti'>ns and requisites are furiushed. and with the absence of extremes of heat
and Colli, the lite and vigour will be prolonged to its fullest period.

To attempt the inquiry into the growth, longevity and lecav of the fnuts and
veu'ftables we cultivate — ^to seek to learn the natural principles involved in the
irrowth of each species, and the law-, and principles of decay belonging to each, is
})articiilarly difficult wheie each ^eems to be governe<l by different and intricate
forces, pertaining to its pe'.iiliar organism. Nature, with man's assistance, has pro-

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ducecl fruits and vegetables in wonderful variety and profusion and of the highest
excellence, and is still pressing onward ; every season bringH some new succt'ss in
the lino of fruit or vegetable raising, and notwithstanding there is so much mystery
clouding the wholo subject — so much that we should know, but do not — so much
guess work, instead of positive information, and fo much that seems impossible tor
the mind to understand peculiar to each plant — nevertheless, it i.ppears worth the
Avhile to discuss these questions, with the hope of new and in<;reasing light pertaining
to the philosophy and science of horticultural and pomological pursuits. There can
bo no end to horticultural investigations; and few, if any, eoncluaions in this hidden
science can be considered linal; and the subject wo have been discussing still atlbrds
a wide field for inquiry.

Nature when her varied forces can be brought into action, has a tendency to-
wards improvement in increased varieties or sorts. Nature, when assisted i>y man,
undei*standing her law of selection, can produce by cross-fertilization now sorts of
hitherto unknown excellence, tending to improvement in size, colour, texture and
llavour, and when the better conditionsare sought, favourable to (he highest and best
dovelojiment of each species.

Wild fruits are constantly being reproduced from seed. Nature's forces for the
transmission of pollen from flower to flower by bees, butterflies and insects innumer-
able, are constantly engaged ; thereby the seed product of each flower contains re-
newed and fresh natural force to reproduce a strong and healthy plant ade»piate to
withstand all climatic and other eonditions which nature intended.

It is quite probable that the fruits of the earlier period, from which the present
fruits are the lineal descendants, eacn sort reproduced from seed, closely resembled
the parent fruit.

Since the period when fruits have been introduced into one section of the coun-
try from the four (piarters of the globe greater changes and gi'eater varieties have
become manifest.

Even now among our indigenous sorts the wild strawberry, the idackberry, tho
raspberry, any marked deviation from their original typo is the exception and not
the general law.

Wo are now comparatively in tho early stages of investigation relating to life
and organism of fruit plants. We have found by experiment that the seeds from
one improved applj or pear will never reproduce its like, or oven two alike, from
the same core.

We have never seen from seedlings two Baldwins or two (rreenings, two
Bartletts or two D'Anjous This seems to bo the law of the apple ami pear; l)ut tho
law is not as inflexible with tho peach and cherry, that often reprmluco their type
with even but very slight if any variation.

Tho conclusions which I have been led to regard as provisionally established
may be summarized as follows : —

1st. Each fruit-bearing tiee and plant seems iidierontly endowed with a certain
given periml of life. This, however, is subject to bo influenced by favourable and
unfavourable conditions.

2nd. Each species and variety of fruit-bearing tree and plant seems governed
by conditions pertaining exclusively to its own growth, maturity and decay.

3nl. Some fruits appear to degenerate, while others furnish but littlo evidence of
deterioration; and the latter statement applies equally to vegetables, as a class, during
this century.

4th. While there undoubtedly is a limit to tho life of every plant and fruit,
neither science nor philosophy has yet determined tho data by which wo can deduce
with any degree of accuracy the duration of life of many of tho larger fruits or
vegotablos.

Tho subject, as regards each fruit, seems to be governed by separate laws and
conditions; and whore such infinite variety exists, it renders equally limitless tho
extent of possible intiuiry, and opens a wide field for experiments and experience ;
and also may bo prolific in topics for discussion by the members of this society.

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It has artbnled me veiy great pleasure to meet the pomologists of the Dominion
of Canada. I have had an opportunity which I never had hitherto of meeting the
Canadians face to face. I now have the opportunity of seeing their products on
these tallies, which not many years ago the whole wealth of the Dominion could not
have ])roduced. These have been produced by your intelligent horticulturists and the
persistent efforts of your good cultivators. No country need bo ashamed of the
exhibition of Iruit that now lies before you. There is no fruit that God has ever
given to man that is equal to the apple, and there is no fruit that has a wider range
of cultivation. It seems to thrive well all over this whole continent, if you except
the extreme norlh and exti-eme south. I have also been very much gratiried by the
discussions I have heard in this place, not only the discussions of your dairymen,
who seem to have the interests of this Dominion at heart, but the discussions of
your horticulturists, which seem to embi-ace every product worthy of encouragement,
and I shall return to my old society fully impressed with the dignity and good sense
of your people, their devotion to their Government, their devotion to horticulture,
and their devotion to everything which seems higher and better. (Applause.)

The Pkesidext. — Mr. lladwen's paper opens up a very large field for inquiry.
It is certainly a most important and suggestive paper, and I only wish we had
ample time to do it justice in the discussion. Notwithstanding the lateness of the hour,
] think we must give members an opportunity for making such inquiries regarding
it as they may feel disposed to make oefore calling for the next paper.

Mr. Demi'.sev. — I have felt ver}- much interested while listening to the paper
from Mr. Hadwen, particularly when he was speaking of so few varieties coming to
stay in projjoi'tion to the number that we have had on trial. I have fruited, in my
time, about 200 varieties of the pear, and the numbers that are worthy of continuing
in cultivation are now about a dozen. We have grown something over 200 varieties
— that is, American varieties — so far, and there are a greai many that we have not
tried. I got so discouraged that I have become a little cautious in investigating
furlhei- in this way. Of the American varieties we have at the pi-esent time
in cultivation, I think the Goodale pear stands at the head of the list with

us.

However, there are a few varieties, like Osband's Summer, that is a good summer
pear, but of no particular value for the market. Of the many European vai-ieties that
we have in cultivation, I fancy there is nothing better than the Barlett and Beurre
Hardy. Those are the two pears that have come to stay, and of the two in our
section of the country, I would prefer the Beurre Hai-dy. So you see that in
experimenting with new varieties of fruits it is very discouraging sometimes. With
the apple we have not averaged so many as ])ears, but we have still fruited a great
many varieties, and out of that large number of varieties of apples I do not think
that we would exceed thirty that we can really say are worthy of cultivation, anil
several of those are seedings that I ought to say are confined very closely to our
«)wn county. There arc varieties that are seedlings in this county, the production
of seeds that were l»rought over by the settlers of New .ferscy after the Rebellion in
the United States. We find several superior fruits cultivated that were produced
from these seeds, but they have never been disseminiit^'d, because many of them are
yellow apples. One, called the Prunion, still remains, in my estimation, without a
rival as a dessert apple. It is yellow, and consequently does not meet the demand
in our markets. We want a red apple. Another is called the "Elvira." It is a
beautiful dessert apple and a good cooking apple — a September apple, that if it was
red, would rise the Duchess of Oldenburg out of existence. These are apples that
have been produced in our county over JOG years ago, and yet have never left the
county to my knowledge. Now, we have in the American production of apples
very few dessert varieties that compare with the English production. We have
not, that I know of, an apple that will compare in flavour with Cox's Orange Pippin,
that I spoke of before. There are veiy few that will excel the Bibston Pippin or
the Wellington apple, or many other English varieties that I am of opinion have
come to stay. It is not so with their pears, because we are left of the English pro-
ductions of the pear only the Bartlett. I am sorry it was christened the Bartlett.
It should have kept its original name of William's Bon Chretien,

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Mr. Hamilton.— I would like to ask th« question, whether any one can say
whether the artificial crosses or hybrids are as durabJe as natural ones. If we look
back a little it M-ould seem as if artifiiial crosses were not durable. Knii,dit and
some other Enijlish growers have raised a {^reat many seedlings tiial were highly
spoken of at the time, but that have quite disMppeared. and 1 think, as liir as n»y
observation goes, that is the case, generally, with artificial hybrids. Natural crosses,
however, are niore durable. I caniu)t say anything with regani to apples or pears
— a lifetime is too short for that sort of thing — but I know something of the potato
hybrids of the last twenty-live or thirty years that have disappeared, and tliesewere
mostly American seedlings that Avere t he result of artificial cro>8es. I think some (tf the
old varieties of potatoes, beforo these new American sorts came in, lasted very much
longer. I think it would be worth while endeavouring t<> ascertain whethor there
is anj'thing in that, and to know if in the future we are to look for our good apples
and pears to artificial ciosses or natural ones. By natural ones, I mean •those wh'>re
the pollen is carried by the wind or insects — not the work of man's hand, by
removing the stamen of one siiid dusting the stigma with the pollen of anotlier.
Just as we sliall decide that (question u great deal of the future of new varieties shall
depend. If the natural ones are the more lasting, then it would seem that the better
way to get new seedlings is to plant vigourous sorts alongside of fine fiavoured ones
and let them ci-oss themselves.

Hon, Senator Rees(»r. — I hold in my hand a copy of the Mail, published in
London, England, in which there is a letter from Mr. H. W. Ward, head gardener tu
the Right Honourable Loitl Salisbury, in which he gives his experience as to the kind
of apples that are suitable in that countr}'. I will read over the list that he
recommends to the people of England to plant. The list he gives is as follows :
Beauty of Kent, Irish Peach, Summer Nonpareil, Worcester I'earmain, Cox's Oiange
Pippin, Ribston Pippin, Claygate I'earmain, Kewsick Cotllin, Cox's Pomona, Loril
Suffield, Beauty of Hants, and Blenheim Orange. Ho says : " The latter is the best

merit, but in
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all-round apple in cultivation. The above list is given, not in order of

the order in which they are needed for use fn«n the end of .hily onwaru. The nrsi
named seven are strictly dessert apples, and the remaining five l»eing generally used
lor culinary purposes." This may be worth a little something as a hint of the kind
of apples that command the nxost attention there, anil perhaps gentlem-Mi here who
have had experience may know how far they can be cultivated in this country.

Mr. SiiEPHEiin. — I think we must all say we have listened with a great deal of
pleasure and satisfaction to Mr. Iladwen's able paper. I am particularly interested
in his remarks about the cause of the degeneration of the larger varieties of trees.
Now, take for example the Fameuse. On the island of Montreal, which is the home
of the Fameuse, we have never been able to trace where it came from. It is sup-
posed it is a seedling from imported French apples. I believe there is no apple iden-
tical with the Fameuse in France, but it is supposed it originated froni the seed
brought from France by the early settlers. Years ago it was quite a common thing
to see an orchard of Fameuse of very old trees, seventy-five to one hundred years of
age. To-day I believe these trees are very scarce, and the average of the Fameuse
to-day I suppose is not more than twenty-five or thirty j'ears. I do not suppose they
bear more than twenty years, and very often less than that. There ai-e no orchards
of Pomme Grise. They are few and far between. They do not live long, and of
course they are not profitable. The Pomme Grise has passed away. I suppose we
can scarcely get on the whole island of Montreal twenty barrels of it. \ou never
see this apple in the Montreal market. It was at one time, twenty-five years ago,
one of the leading varieties of dessert apples shipped to England. If the Montreal
merchant wished to send a present of apples to England he would always send some
Pomme Grise, which were supposed to be something of the very be&t quality. So
it is most interesting to hear the remarks made by Mr. Hadwen, and I think the point
he has brought out that wo should take none of the scions from diseased trees which
hasten the degeneration. This point we spoke of before, and I maintain that we
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I never take u Bcion from i» Famouse tree that ajipears to have the slightest ilej^reo
of (liHcaf<e. I think it is a great mistake. We niuist be very cautious, if we want to
retain these old favourite varieties. We must bo careful in selecting our scions.

Mr. Allan. — I hope the paper read is to be pas8e<l in for publication. It is too
valuable a paper to bo lost si /ht of, and I trust Mr. Iladwen will be willing. I am
sure every one here can join in the same voice, that we have enjoyeil the reading of
the papei', and the dej)th of the paper is such that we must have it before us to
read it, and to road it from point to point, as it is ot very deep interest to us all. It
is one of the most valuable papers 1 have heard read at any of our conventions.

Kev. Mr. Fulton. — As to the longevity of the tree, I think the short-lived
characteristic of the tree is due in the most part to the carelessness of tho nursery-
men. As Mr. Shepherd lias just stated, we do not pay much attention to tho root,
and certainly it is the root which supplies the tree. Formerly they used to grow a
fine healthy tree from the seed, and when it was sutticlently large it was put out.
You cannot expect trees to live if the stock is uidiealthy. I know f)no tree in tho
County of Huntingdon out of three that came Irom Mr. Jlolland's garden, in
Mcmtreal, in 1820, which is still a vigourous growing tree bearing fruit, and the trees
that 1 got thirty ^-ears ago are perfectly healthy aud good. I am perfectly satisfied
that tho difficulty is through the stock.

Mr. Stakk. — May we not attribute all this short life of tho present trees to
the fact tluU they are root grafted and set out from nurseries, and that the trees we
see about in our country where we find them over one hundred years of age were seeded
as early as 1770 or 1780, along there. We find those trees living to-day and bearing
crops. 1 can call to mind one esjiecially, within three miles of my own place. It
covers an area of at least 40 feet round, and the trunk is over 2^ feet in diameter, and
that tree is still bearing heavy crops of apples. That tree is grafted at some dis-
tance from tho ground. You can see whore all these old trees have boon grafted,
some of them were grafted earh* in the present century, and are healthy trees to-day.
"We find such apples as the Fameuse and the Pcmime (rrise planted at the same time.
They were good apples for some ^-ears ; to-day they are failures. They are not
being ]>lanted as the j'oung trees, and not being cared for as tho old trees. In the
first place, they are not as good all-round apples as those that have been selling well
in the market ; they do not carry well and they do not grow well. Wo have to
look after these three attributes in all our apples, to make them a success. Those
are three points that j'ou must look after in the commercial apples — first, to grow
well ; Bec(md, to bear well; third, to carry well ; and fourth, study the market.

Mr. SiiEi'iiERU. — You can hardl}- say that the Fameuse does not bear well, and
you cannot saj' it is not marketable.

Mr. Stark. — I am speaking from my own point of view. Tho Nova Scotian
Fameuse Iwenty-fivo years ago was a first-rate apple. To-day, with tho best culti-
vation, if we are getting fifteen barrels from a tree we can sell throe as No. 1, five as
No. 2, and tho rest goes into cider. That is where tho trouble conies in.

Mr. WiLLAHi). — The subject is full of interest ti> all of us. But I think that
perhaps we fail to attribute the failure of many of our varieties of trees and the
apparent degeneracy to tho true cause. Now, there has been a change going on,
through the last fifty years, throughout this whole counti-y. The time was, fifty
years ago, when wo had forest trees scattered from one end to the other, almost over
all the country, and those forest trees held back our snows and uur rain. The
modern system of drainage, while it is a splendid thing on many grounds, and has
created a great value to the country, yet I see the ill efl'ects that grow out of it. Our
snows as they melt, on account of the absence of forests, are carried off rapidly, and
from our ground being soaked with water in a short time it is too dry. Wo suffer
from drought. I see it in my own orchard, and it has been a study with me what 1
would do to avoid it. My orchard is uuder-draineJ, and the water is carried ofl' too
quickly, and I do not believe it is well for tho health of a tree it should be so. Then,
again, there are other things. Reference has been made to the fact that our trees were
propagated by root grafting. My opinion is that the trees are injured by the want

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of forests. TI«o wiiul swecnn across the country witliout anytliing to break it. This
is a point worthy of consideration, whether or not go(Ml wind-oreaks around our
orchards are not of ijroat value. I think they are.

Mr. Urodie. — With reference to a yood many of our old Famou.so orchaids
around .^^ontreal, 1 think the degeneration of the trees is owing greatly to tiie im-
poverishment of tiio soil. Some of these trees have been cropped year after year,
for t wonty-tive years, in my neighbourhood, ami I have never seen manure ot any kind
applied to these trees. These trees are generally cultivated in the garden until they
are about ten years old. and then they Jirc seedeil down and left that way. I know
in our «)rchard. which was plante 1 by mj* grandfather. I have taken great care to
manure and euUivate the trees. My neighbuur has a young orchard, fifteen years old,
}>lanted, and speaking to my foreman last summer, he said : " How is it you possess an
orchar<l with .such healthy green Ibliage and the foliage of my trees is so sickly?"

1 said, the reason was, that his foreman had not taken the trouble to put ntai.uro on
his garden crop.

Mr. .St.\kb. — T have wondered why our trees were so short-lived while we see so
manv trees around us. We ijenerallv see failures to-dav, whih; the other trees out-
live the allotted time. However, those who may come after us may yet live to see
in our present orchards some of our trees that will live as long. Those old trees
that wo are speaking of. we must remember, are scattered; wo see no full
orchards; they are scattered trees here and there. That is the position we found
them in.

Prof. Smith. — 1 would like to make a few remarks with regard to this root
grafting. I do not agree altogether as to that being thecauso of theileterioration of
our fruits. 1 know a number of years ago there was a practice among nurserymen
to cut up seedlini^s between one and two years, and graft two, three and sonietimos
four trees from a single root, but the practice of r tot grafting upon whole roots gave
just as healthy a tree as a tree gii>wn from the bud that is budded and above the
ground. It is a system 1 have always practised in growing ti-ees. and \ thiidc
gentlemen in this room will bear me out in the statement that some of the best
orchaids in the Niagara district were planted thirt}'' years ago, and are now in a
thriving condition, were grat'ted in that way.

Senator Ueesor. — The expeiienco I have had is that it is not only with the
nurseryman iiut it is sometimes with the manure. I have alw.a^'s taken a good deal
of interest in raisMig fruit myself, and have planted a great many varieties of
grapes, pears and apples, and Thave fouivl this, and I took the hint from reading of
the practice in England. In planting their grapevines there they dig tho ground

2 or 3 feet deep and turn the top so=! right to the bottom and then till tho
balance of the earth in ; if it is not rich enough they put in rotted manure. I iiave
tried it only o.. a small scale, and in planting" that way I have had as much growth
from the grapo vine in two years as I would have had in ])lanting it in the ordinary
way in perhaps f(jur yeai-s. aiul 1 got as much fruit otf the same vine for the second
and third crop as I would liave from four or tivo vines planted in tho ordinary way.

The Convention adjourned until Friday.

MouxiNo Session.

FuiD.VY, 2l8t Feb., 1890.
Tho Convention re-assembled at 10 a. m.. Prof. Penhallow, President, in the

oJiair.

The Committee on Organization presented the following report:—

PER.M.\XENT OROANIZATIOX.

That we recommend the permanent establishment of this convention under the
title of the Dominion Horticultural Association.

The officers to he a president and a secretary-treasurer and a vice-president
and corresponding secretary for each Province.

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That r'mf. Ponhallow be the tir»t president, iiivl tho prositleiits of the provincial
associations Ite the vice-presidents; but in the event i»f anysucii president l>einj;also
jtrcsident of the Dominion association, the soni(»r vii'e-n"";ideiit of that provin?ial
association shall bo vice-president of the Dominion association.

That in Provinces wnere no provincial association exists the D)minion associii
tion shall appoint a vice-president for that Provinc*'.

That the executive committee consist of the jtresident and secretary (ec-
officio), tocether with members to i»e appointed by the association.

Members of provincial associations iihall be eligiliie to membership in the
Dominion association upon payment of an aimual tVo of 81. and any other person
may (puilify as a member upon payment of an annual fee of 82.

The committee rccommeml that application be nvule to Parliament for an
annual irrant of 8;5,HOO for the purpose of ht)ldini; c(»nventions and publishing the
tninsactions of the association.

That the provincial association shall be entitleil to votes in convention dis-
tributoil as follows: British Columbia. 2; Maiiitobn. 1; Xorth-Wost Territories, 1;
Ontario, t! ; Quebec, 4 ; New Brunswic Iv, 2 ; Xova Scotia, .! ; Prince Kdward Island, 1 .

That meetings of the association shall he held annually.

All officers of the association shall be elected annually.

Vice-presidents were name< I as follows: Xew Brunswick, S. L. Peters, Queens-
town : Manitoba, Mr. Frankiand, Stonewall,

AV. W. Dunlop, Montreal, was named as secretary-treasurer; Georsj^e Johnson,
Ottawa, as statistician

B. Starratt, G, W. Henry and L. Woolverton were appoiutod members of the
executive committee.

THE lUTY ON FIUIT

The debate on Mr. A. H. Petitt's motion, respecting the duty on fruit, was con-
tinued :

The President. — This is an important question, and one that presents many
aspects; but I hope that political considerations will be left out in (lealing with it.
I am aware there may be a diversity of opinion as to the advisability of taking this
step, and 1 hope that gentlemen will ex}ii'es8 their views concisely, so that we may
arrive at a conclusion quickly.

Mr. Pettit— There seems to be a "isunderstanding on this question. We do
not want any duty on foreign products that we do not produce ourselves. We
simply want a duty on those that wo produce at home — the duty as it was a short
time ago. T cannot really see any portion of this Dominion that is more affected
by the present state of affairs than the Provinces of Ontario and Quebec, for the
reason that we produce large quantities <»f summer fruit. The Americans, having a
climate so much earlier than we, till our markets about two weeks in advance
(»f anything we can do. Consumers only require strawberries for about two
weeks, when they then require another variety of fruit. The Southern States
are prepared to supply Ontario with those fruits for about that time, and
therefore our Canadian fruits have to come in after that demand has been pretty
well met. With regard to the apple crop, we must look to England as the one
market. Great Britain is the market for nearly all ojir apples. The south-westei-n
States are producing large quantities, but the samples that come in hero are more
or less fall apples. Our apples are keepers, ami in that respect we look to the
English market ; but if our market is to bo glutted with earlier varieties from tRe
south, it has the effect of making the business of fruit-pi-oducing not so profitalile
as it should be. If other branches of agriculture are to be protectetl in Canada I
do not see why fruit growing should not be. We are one branch of the whole.
Taking the Province of Nova Scotia, there may be an exception there ; but in this
regard apples form the entire crop of Nova Scotia, as against all the kinds of fruit
produced m Ontario and Quebec. They can produce the verj' finest varieties of
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of any account, they liavo a j;ieat advnntnge over ns In rcnchincrthcBriti-«h markff.
]<lo not think wo hhouM allow the intorostH i f the hii-^jer portion of the I>Mii)inion
to sutTer for the nakeof a ninj^^e ]»rovinc'e that alreatiy possesses peculiar atlvanlaires.
A» for New Urunswick. acconling to our frieml hen-* he need not louk to anv beUer
market than he has ^ot. We would be ','lnd in Ontario to have half the crop of
strawborrieH that they u'et there ; and I'rinoe Edward Island has carried oH' th^
prizes for winter apnies in several eases here. I think that, taken as a whole, the
J>ominion rcnuires this protection. There is another I'r<»vince that mii,'ht teel this
sli^'htly, but 1 believe if they consider it properly they shouUl not object— that is,
British Columbia, in the west. We should do all" we could to encourage fruit pro-
duction there. Ontario has done all it could to open up that North-Wi-st, and the
result has been that as soon as C)ntario and (Quebec have .sent their sons there to
open up that country they are pouring' down millions of bushels of wheat upon us
in return. I say they should be willin;: to have us supply them with fruit, and [
am sure wo could <lo so at prices as I )w as they could be supplieil I'l-oin anv other
source.

Mr. C. R. II. St.\rk. — r was not pi i-^ctit when this matter came up yesterday,
biit I obs«'rve that my name is in ti.e list of gentlemen who form tuis dslrifation.
While we would not wish to inter'i re in any wav v.lth the interests ot our Ontario
friends, wo feel thi ■ in view of ■ '.., fact that thla matter having been discussed before
the Nova Scotia association and that w.. wiie instructed with resjiect to this matter,
We .vill not be at liberty to act in coiijii.i^'tion with that deleiration. Therefore, we
would reijuest that ou»- mimes be c.\(»uf»^ed tiom that list. I may say that while we
do not wish to ot!er any serious opjiosition, we do not wish to act upon a delci^ntion.

The rRESiitKNT. — 1 have received ai. ainondment to the main motion to this effect :

*' Moved by R. J. Clinton, seconded by J. M. Fisk, that the question ot" duties bo
placed in the hands (»f a eoinmiuee ot equal number of representatives t'rom oarji of
the I'rovinces. who shall report on the same at 5.30 p. ni."

On l>ein<; put to the meeting, this amendment was declared tol>e lost.

Mr. TnoKHURN. — In the interest of the Nortb-We.st Territories I want to speak
on that question. We must be and will bo for many years to come an importini^
countiy. We raise very little large fruit and must import it for many years to come.
As protection in this case necessardy means increased prices by those w^ o are pro-
tected, I do not see how it would help us to have this motion adopted. We must
l(»ok largely to liritish Columbia for our future supply of fruit a:? soon as they are
able t(» supply us. and we get some reduction in the rates from the express c(»mpany.
Naturally, Ontario and Quebec will compete with Hritish Columbia in that t .ide
and it will be profitable for both that there should be competition. I have heard from
the representative of British Columbia in the meeting that they believe thai they
will bo able to compete with the world in raising fruit. At presenv. when wo send
an order to Hritish Columbia, as I and others have done, we have foun' that the mer-
chants very often send us California fruit. With reference to that, the representative
from British Columbia has said that where we could deal directly with the fruit
growers instead of the iTierchants we could get better fruit, and get it more directly
and fresher. I think, however, it shows a lack of enterprise on the jiart of the fruit
growers of British Columbia, who are also dealers, that they jiermit those .vho would
naturally' be their cu-omers to apply to tlio.se who deal in California fruits. Wo
apply to those who transact our business, and if the fruit growers of Briti h Columbia
are perfectly sure they can supply us with as good and as cheap fruit as California
they should let it be known. The}' will naturally get the trade. I have heard that
the climate of British Columbia is somewhat enervating, and that until the impor-
tation of Ontario people went there they were wonderfully slow. I would ask the
fruit growers of British Columbia to shake off their lethargy and put a little more
stir into their business. Let them make known to those who are likely to be their
customers what they can do for us, and there would be no need for protection at all.
I am sure the people of Ontario and Quebec are enterprising enough to hold the
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display before us shows that those who are interested in the growing of fruit can
compete with the Uniteil S.atesorany other market inthe world without protection.
I cannot go to see the Minister of Customs on that delegation. If I did, I should
speak in the way I have now done.

Mr. Henry. — This gentleman has spoken on behalf of the North- West Territories
and has found some fault with the way the fruit-growing is carried on in British
Columbia. These people do not go to the Xorth-West to grow fruit ; but thoy are
pleased to have a duty on grain or flour. I believe we have the same right to pro-
tection. We go io ]iritish Columbi.i to grow fruit. We want our industry to bo pi-o-
tected until we get established; then we can compete with an}"^ country in the world.
Perhaps we cannot compete in all winter fruit, but in early varieties — in plums and
such fruit — I am satisfied we can surpass anything I have ever seen anywhere else.
AVith regard to the lethai-gy that is spoken of, the groat trouble is that the people
who went there tirst were not fruit-growers. People got into fruit-growing bj' linding
the fruit growing there. The people who are going in there now are of a livelier
class, and will make it lively enough when they get properly started. The
Californians have had the market because they have a great glut of fi-uit. They do
not care what prices they get, so long as they get something for the stock that is on
their hands. At the present time I am satisfied that we can supply a great portion
of the North-Wost with our fruits, and these other varieties of winter fruits can be
imported from Ontario. On this ground I favour the motion, which is aimed to give
us a chance to show what we can do.

Mr. BucKK. — A mistaken impression has gone abroad from what Mr. Carling
said the other day about fruit being imported from the States. In looking over the
statistics I find that the ])rincipal importations were of small fruits. They come in
earlier than the}' ripen here. You can get strawberries in Ottawa now that are
brought in from the States. Mr. Blue, in a speech made before the Ontario Associa-
tion, said that as soon as the American fruits meet the Canadian fruit the American
fruit suffers, because ours aie so much better than those brought in. Why do
5'ou want to put a duty on those that come in earlier th:in ours? If the clinuite of
Ontario is so much better than the clinuite to the south (»f us. 1 think wo can com-
pete with them. I do not think we want any duty to keep Amei'ican fruit out of
here. I see the imports of small fruits were Slt5,S00, and I think under those
circumstances wo do not want any duty. If ^-ou put any duty on fruits coming into
this country we will only
earlier fruits.

be injuring ourselves. We would simply shut out

Mr. Frankland. — It seems to me that this delegation is on the wrong ques-
tion. I think when the report of the Transjiortation Committee come>; in the true
remedy for British Columbia will be there recommended. It is not so much the
importation from the United States that we sutler from as it is the exorbitant rates
being paid on fruits being brought into Manitoba.

Mr. Stakratt. — Perhaps it would be well for me to define the position of the
delegates from Nova Scotia. The reason why we do not care to support this motion
is that we raise large quantities of CJravenstein apples. That is one of our four
principal apples. Our principal markets for the Gravensteins is the United States
—in Boston or New York. If we impose a dutj' on fruit the Americans will prob-
ably retaliate, and we would be cutting oft" our market for the Oravenstein apples.
In the second place, we are growing small fruit to quite an extent. That is an in-
creasing industry, and promises to be of considerable importance. We also find a
market for small fruits in the Uidted States, in Portland and Boston, and under im-
proved transportation facilities, we hope to make that a good market for small
fiuit. Personally, I am a strong believer in the principle of protection — that is,
protection of the industries of Canada. I can sympathise fully with our friends
from Ontario, and were it not for the instructions that we received from our pro-
vincial association I for one would be strongly inclined to support you. That is
the position in which Mr. Starr and myself are placeil.

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Mr. Brodie. — We, in the Province of Quebec, grow principally fall fruit and
early summer apples. Usually we would get pretty fancy prices for our first apples
brought to market, but now our i..ai'ket seems to be made a slaughter market for
fruit from the States. It is so also in the line of vegetables, and 1 see that veget-
ables are named in this resolution. Take tomatoes when they were selling at S2
per bushel, in one week five cargoes came from the Uni<ed States and ruined the
market completely. Some of our market gardeners have failed and been obligeil to
sell out, principally those on rented ftirms.

3Ir. Kew.— This question has been raised a good many times with regard to the
tarilf; but I have heard of no one to-day advocating a free trade policy. Those who
have given their views on the general question of protection and free trade have
expressed thomselvex in favour of protection. Xo doubt, some of those gentlemen
who have spoken believe in the policy of freotra<le, but I do not believe that there is
one gentleman in the room today that would support a general policy of free trade
between England and Canada and the United States. Give protecti<in all round or
give us none. It is a matter of small importance to a great many in the country;
but it is of great importance to the fruit-growers of Canada. Another thing, speak-
ing of the settlers in the North-West, the}' buy very little fruit until they buy their
substantial fruit — their lai'ger fruit. We can supply that demand. They grow small
fruit, enough probably to supply themselves.

Mr. TiioRBUiiN. — Xo, no.

Mr. Kew. — J heard those gentlemeti on the other side of the room saying they
could grow strawberries and raspberries. Why don't they doit; can they get theiu
in from the Southern States cheaper than they can grow them? I say we demand
our own markets. We do not ask a market from the United States. We liave a
market in England, and we ask to be given our home market. Where they can
grow their small fruits in Manitoba give us the privilege of supplying them with
the coarser fruits. If there are any persons in the Xorth-West wlio want early fruits
let them pay for their luxuries. What have the Americana been doing for years,
but practising a policy of protection. VV^e cannot att'ord to be hewers of wood and
drawers of water. We must defend ourselves.

Mr. Peters. — It seems to me to be a matter for mutual consideration and conces-
sion. I think we ought to consi<ler our general interests. I propose to do it in this
way: I claim that the Maritime Provinces, particularly New Brunswick, would be
affected detrimentallj- by the passing of this resolution. The Provineos of Ontario
and Quebec would likely be benefited by it. The Provinces of Manitoba and the
Noi'th-West would probably be injured by it.

Several Memuers. — No, no.

Mr. Peters. — The question is, is it for the interest of Canada, that Nova Scotia,
New Brunswick, the North-Wcst and Manitoba should be injured, and Quebec and
Ontario be benefited, I believe in Canada for the Canadians every time. Now, the
resolution does not embody the opinions as expressed by its mover, from the fact
thut the resolution is broad. It says fruit and vegetables, without defining tho^^e par-
ticular fruits and vegetables.

Mr. Pettit. — They were defined before.

Mr. Peters. — I got it from the gentleman this morning who addressed us. and
said he did not intend it to apply to bananas, oranges, lemons, i^c. I cannot forget,
however, that the market for New Brunswick small fruit is very largely in the
United States. 1 also gather from the delegates from theNorth-West and Manitoba,
that their supply market is chiefly in the United States. The question then i.s.
shall we re-impose this duty for Ontario and Quebec — magnificent in their propor-
tions— to the injury of other Provinces? I will tell you the cflect which the United
States' fruit has upon us. Our people are bound to have strawberries a little earlier
than we can produce them, no matter what the cost is. They go on the tables of
the rich as a luxury ; but the moment our fruit comes into the market there is no
demand for the American fruit. I tliink that argument will apply equall}* to Ontario
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mntter that the very moment they are able to place their fruits on the market the
United States people might as well keep theirs at home. Xow, you gentlemen from
Ontario and Quebec, I ask you to consider our position. We do not want to come
up here and oppose any measure which we think is going to aid you, but we ask
you not to forget the position we occupy. We claim, after a full consideration of
the question i»ropo8Pd, that it is better to let the matter remain where it is for the
present, feeling that no injustice will be done, but that mutual concessions will not
only result in the general good, but will enable us the better to push our fruitsupon
the markets of the world, and enable us to do our best to grow a sample of fruit
which the world cannot excel. I ask you to kinilly consider our position, and if you
can xee your way clear, consistent with your own interest, we hope you will with-
draw your resolution rather than have us vote against it.

Mr. Beali-, of Lindsay, Ont. — I have not troubled you very much since I have
been here. I have no dount that nurserymen will be benetited as well as others by
the protection proposed, but this movement is in the interests of thousands of per-
sons, it is in the interest of fruit-growers all over the country who are being ruined
during the last year or two because of the removal of the duty. We hope to have
it re-imposed, and thereby save a very large number of persons from bankruptcy.
A gentleman from the Xorth-West stated that a great deal of the fruit which they
got Just now came from California. I pity their stomachs. They must be American
in taste or they would not buy any California fruit except grapes. They certainly
would not buy jwars or apples from California. The bulk of what they buy is small
fruits ; biit they can grow small fruits in the North-Wcst as well as we can. They
can grow them abundantly. One word more respecting the protection for the farmer.
I say that the last year that the duties were collected on fruit there was something
like 820,000 paid by the people of Ontario. Who paid that dutj- ? Persons in towns
and cities, simply for the sake of having luxuries. Who has paid that same amount
of duty during the past year? It is a long and roundabout way of arriving at an
answer. There is the producer and the consumer and the (rovernment. That same
amount was collected by the Government. It has got to be obtained from some other
source, and it is taken from the general public — the farmois chiefly — instead of from
those persons only who were consumers of luxuries. With regard to the subject of
free tratle, I just thought it was like a story I heard of the Japanese Minister at
Washington. He was asked why he had not kept faith with them respecting a
standing army. A few days before he had stated that his (Jovernment were quite
willing to abandon their army. He said: "We are quite willing to keep faith, but
a«i long as our neighbours keep up their standing armies we have to do the same."
The Same thing s applicable to us. It must not be a one-sided trade in this matter.
If it is to be free trade it must go all round. We cannot carry on free trade and
allow our neighl)our8 to impose heavy duties on our products.

Mr. I?. J. Clinton moved, seconded by Mr. R. W. Starr. " That this question of
re-imposing the duty be left over until our next annual meeting, when we will be
better able to see the results of free trade in fruits and vegetables."

Mr. Clinton. — ^This gentleman from British Columbia spoke of his fruit being
able to compete in the world's market. Why, then, does he want a protection on
that fruit ? He speaks of the high rates that the Canadian Pacitic Railway has
charged him to bring his fruit into Manitoba. Is it policy for the Canadian Pacific
Railway to continue charging that high rate? If the Canadian Pacific Railway
does not Wing the fruit in cheap enough, the Canadian Pacitic Railway will be shut
out of that trade entirely b}* the Northern Pacific and fruit coming in by way of
Washington Territory'. So far as Manitoba and the North-West Territories are
concerned, their representatives here have made their views clear enough. We in
Ontario can raise fruit cheaply, and we will send it up there by boats. I send fruit
into Detroit, and compete there in what I call the world's market. They let my
fru l go in there for a mere entrance fee. If we re-impose this duty they will
retaliate, and I will have to be shut out and my fruit will have to come down and
compete with the fruit-growers of Grimsby and Quebec. I like to see competition.

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We are all anxious to make money, but I can i;ive you figures to show you that
there is a reasonable profit in competing in the markets of the world. California
fruit comes into Detroit, but we knock them out in flavour. Another question is,
when we are asking that the duty be re-imposed on fruit are we voicing the wishes
of the people— a majority of the people — of Ontario ? AVe are voicing the ilesire
of the fruit-growers, but we are a small number compared with the ])eople at large.
We have the best climate on earth, and I think we ought to be able to raise our fruit
as cheaply as we raise anything else. I only ask to have this thing rest for one
year, and then we will be better able to tell how it should be decided. This thing
has only been tried for one year, and I think it would bo wise to leave it for a year
longer, and if then the present system is found to be working to our disadvantage, I
am quite willing to support these gentlemen from eastei ii Ontario, 1 w.int to work
for the general interests of us all. Let us look at this thing in a broad light.

On being put to the meeting, the amendment proposed by Mr. Clinton was
cai-ried by a majority of one.

The President. — We may consider this question postponed for a j-ear. 1 think
this is a very wise decision as there are questions of very grave importance involved,
and I hope we will do nothing we may l>e soi-ry for. I think it will be one of the worst
things we can do, just at the opening of this convention and at the organization <»f
our society. It is a wise thing to leave the matter open for next year and then give
it the time which it demands for consideration. We will now proceed with the work
of this morning. We have among us the Ilonoui-able Mr. Jol}', from Quebec, who
will read a paper on "An Easy Mode of Procuring Forest Trees for Planting."

Hon. 71. G. JoLY then read bis paper as follows: —

Easy Method for Procuring Good Forest Trees for Planting.

This paper deals with such elcmentaiy matters, with which practical men are so
familiar that it may appear out of place in a meeting of this kind. However. I
know from my own experience in tree culture how difficult it is to obtain the kind of
information which would be most welcome to beginners, and 1 will address myself
principally to those who are inclined to join in the useful work you have undertaken,
and who may be glad to receive a little help in their first attempts.

There is no greater waste of time and money than planting trees that do not
grow. Apart from neglect of proper care in planting, the want of success may be
attribute<l either to unfitness of the soil for the kind of tree planted or to planting
at the wrong time, or to the defective state of the tree planted. I will only deal
with this last ]>oint to-tlay.

Good trees for planting may be obtained from the nurserymen at reniarkabl}'
low rates. But the farmer may live at a great distance from the nurserj'. means of
communication may be difficult, liable to interruption, trees may be delayed on the
way from the nursery, suffer damages, reach the farmer at an unpropitious time for
planting, and however small their cost and that of the freight, it may deter those
who have never before planted trees fr m making the experiment, or cause them to
put it off year after year, and finally give it up.

Any farmer may have on his own farm, at his door, a good nursery of forest trees,
which will cost him nothing, will not fail and will be available at a moment's notice,
by sowing in a corner of hisganlen the seeds of the forest trees ho proposes to grow.

Growing forest trees from seed is generally considered as a slow process; people
think that it will save time to go to the neighbouring woods and dig up good-sized
trees. Those who have tried it will remember how difficult it is to find in the forest
good, well-shaped young trees ; how long it takes to dig them up, how much care and
patience it requires, as their roots are mixed up with those of neigbb6uring trees or
run under stones or fallen timber, and how often tho;-c trees, taken up with so much
labour, are not worth the trotible of planting. But after so much time and work
spent on them it would be a pity not to give them a chance ; so they are planted. A
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from the shelter of the woods to the sudden exposure to sun and wind. The inex-
perienced tree phinter invariably chooses his trees too tall, under the impression that
he gains time, and does not stake them properly to resist the action of the wind.

" I do not fear to assert that trees grown from seed in the nursery, and properly
treated, will give more satisfactory results in every way (economy, rate of growth
and tinal success) than trues dug up in the forest and transplanted in the open. The
nursery tree being taken up in perfect order, its growth will scarcely be checked by
transplanting; it will be, of necessity, transplanted smaller, sutfering less from the
wind; it will not miss the shelter of the forest, and the farmer who has his own
nui'sery can transplant at once, Avithout allowing time for the roots to dry and
choosing his own time, a cloudy or damp day.

Of coui'se, in alluding th the frequent failure of transplanted trees taken up in
the forest, I do not pretend that experienced tree-planters cannot take them up safely
by bestowing sufficient time and care, but I mean that the great bulk of the trees
taken up by farmers and others which have come under my notice have failed, and I
could quote instances of complete failure, when not one single tree outlived the trans-
planting.

Any observant farmer will soon find out the time when the seed of the trees he
wishes to grow is ripe — elm, soft maple, from middle June to middle of .luly; in the
Xorthei-n States and Canada, hard maple, birch, ash, oak. butternut, walnut, &c., in
the autumn. Better sow the seeds at once, they are safer in the ground than any-
where else.

A soft maple or an elm sown in July will make a gootl growth of sevei'al inches
the same summer. Sow the seed in straight rows, marked with a garden line, and
with a good picket at each end to facilitate weeding. Depth and distance accord-
ing to the size of the seed : about 1 inch deep for maple and ash, and 4 inches
apart ; and 2 or 3 inches deep for oak, bntternut and walnut, and say 8 inches
distant.

The third spring the trees will be fit for transplanting. In the meantime they
will only require weeding, severing the taproot of the oak, butternut, walnut,the second
spring, (with a sharp spade driven in the ground at an angle of about forty-five
degrees, undei- the little tree), and hoeing between the rows, which cf.n be done at
odd times by the farmer oi* his children. The fact is, I would like to see that wf)rk en-
trusted to the children. They will take an interest in those little trees and learn to
cherish them. We must teach the rising generation to replace the forest trees des-
troyed by their parents.

Once transplanted into favourable ground, keep off the cattle, and the tree will
take care of itself.

But, it" you will trust to nature, it will save you the trouble of sowing your
trees. Wherever the ground is favourable you will find the young seedlings grow-
ing in the neighbourhood of the parent tree : in July the elm, the soft maple, on the
roadside, near the ditches, on the bare spots wherever there is moisture, on damp
moss, etc. The elm seed is so minute that I would recommend taking up those
3'oung seedlings in preference to sowing the seed. I have seen dozens of them
growing on a piece of moss no larger than my hand, and transplanteil them success-
fully.

The ground in the maple groves is covered with a regular carpet of maple
seedlings, which can easily be pulled up by hand when the ground is soaked with
the autumn rains, without injuring a single rootlet. Taken up in the autumn, I
would recommend heeling them for the winter, and only transplanting in the nurs-
ery in the spring.

As for the seed of pine, spruce and other coniferous trees, it is very hard to
collect. In the early spying, when the ground is still moist and soft, the pine and
spruce and balsam seedlings can be pulled up by the hand (with a trowel if they
resist), without breaking the roots, and transplanted at once in the nursery, merely
taking the precaution to shelter them from the sun for a few weeks until they are
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grown in the neighbourhood of a garden, where the ground has been spaded in the
autumn, preparatory to spring mowing, hundreds of little maple and ash seedlings
are found growing before any other plant comes up. In a very short time a
sufficient number can be transplanted to stock a little nursery.

The Pkesident. — This is a verj'' interesting paper, and deserving of considera-
tion, but we have four more papera to read, and hardly time to discuss it.

Mr. Thomas Frankland, of Stonewall, Manitoba. — Mr. President and Gentle-
men,— I feel extremely grateful for the kind consideration that has been shown to
Manitoba and the North-West Territories. We stand in a peculiar position. You,
for a few years, have been growing fruit sufficient for yourself, while we arc only
beginning. I think it is a very fitting prelude to the paper that I am about to i-ead,
the one that has been read by the Hon. Mr. Joly, as it just fits in with the idea
that Mr. Gibb had in regard to the Province of Manitoba, lie sent me some nice
little trees, and he thought our first beginning ought to be in shade trees. Wo
wanted moi-e shade, l»o thought, in the Province of Manitoba. It reminded me
when I saw these seedlings that 1 would like to add a word to Mr. Jolys paper in
that respect — that is, the facility with which these one year old seedlings can bo
planted. We had a number of these that I got from Mr. Papin, of Iowa, very
cheaply, and in order to facilitate the planting 1 may veiy safely now give awa3Mny
secrets. I had a boy assisting me, and the boy went before me witli a crowbai",
rather a curious instrument with which to plant one year old trees, and of course
the ground had been ploughed as deeply as passible, and ho planted his crowbar in
the ground and I followed him with the seedlings, taking them out of a pail of
water one by one and planting them in the hole he had made with the crowbar, and
we planted over 2,000 seedlings, 4 feet apart, in a vei-y short time. I give this
secret to anyone, and they all are perfectly welcome to use it. My paper is on
" Experiments in Fruit Culture in Manitoba."

Experiments in Fruit Culture in Manitoba: by T. Frankland, Stonewall

Co., LiSUAR.

The fixing of the boundaries of the fruit-growing belt has long engaged the
attention of north-western horticulturists. Theories have been as numerous as
experimenters, and many of these have dropped from the ranks, and with them their
theories. Experiments have hitherto been conducted on old lines and with southern-
grown and unsuitable varieties — without due consideration as to the changed condi-
tions of temperature, moisture, sunlight,&c. This cannot, perhaps, be better illusti-ated
than by detailing a few facts as to past experiments. Early in the history of the
Province, the officers and servants ol the Hudson Bay Company and others ])lanted
trees and shrubs imported from their former homes to make their adopted homes
as homelike as iwssible. The currant and gooseberry, native to the soil, flourished
well in their gardens and boj-e abundantly." The native black currant, especially in
size, excelled the Naples, and was little, if any, behind that variety in fruitfulness
and quality. The native plum, grown in thickets with moderate shade, succeeded
well. No wild apple or crab was, howevei-, known, and experiments were made by
raising seedlings from southern-grown fruit, and importing trees from European and
southern nurseries. These seedlings and importations were "of few days and full
of trouble." In 1872 W. B. Hall, of Headingly, procured from Minnesota thrce-
3-ear-old dwarf trees of Duchess, Wealthy, Tetofsky, and half a dozen other
varieties of apples and crabs, which were carefully planted on a northern slope,
protected on three sides, in rich sandy loam soil. Two years from planting most of
those came to bearing and fruited for several years; but Mr. Hall says, 'jThey com-
menced dying at the top," and now only a few Siberians survive. His Lordship
the Bishop of Rupert's Land for some years has taken interest in fruit culture.
His first importations were destroyed on three successive occasions by locusts— one
Yellow Siberian and one Transcendent crab being all now left. Both of these
blossomed heavily last spring; but, on account of late spring frosts, the fruit was
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lias one tree that bore a few specimens last j'ear of a very nice apple — name
unknown. U. S. Consul Taylor, and Messrs. Bannatyne, liiggins, Ponseca and
others have done considerable pioneer work; but while their labours have been
crowned with little success, their valuable experiments have thrown much light
upon the probable cause of failure. It is possible, in Mr. Hall's case, surrounded
and sheltered as his orchard is on three sides by heavy timber, that a lack of what
Prof. Budd calls air drainage may have contributed no little to his failure. In
the case of the larger apples, the fact that the Duchess is reported at its northern
limit in North Iowa or South Minnesota — that Tetofsky is said to be tenileror than
the Duchess, and that the Wealthy so far has shown itself better adapted to a
climate several degrees south of the place of its origination — these facts seem to
point to the conlusion that hardier varieties must be procured before sJiccessful
cultui-e can be assured. A few of the United States importations of Russian fruits
from a climate very similar to our own were procured from Minnesota, but many of
these had been grafted upon crab and unsuitable roots, and it is on record that not
a dozen of the first root grafts of this period are to-day alive in Minnesota, while in
Manitoba no trace of them is found, except in sprouting roots denuded of their
sprouts each succeeding winter. The grasshopper plague wrought sad destruction
and blasted many sanguine hopes, perhaps only a little before the time. Southern
slopes, without judicious shelter, inducing sun scald and bark bursting, have given
force to the theory that March'and April blazing sunshine must by some means be
prevented from doing its deadly work. The desire for large trees, often delivered
with the best part of them left in the nursery rows, many killed before starting
and more during transit, stuck unceremoriously into little better than gopher holes,
soddened with water, smothered with wet. , and wished well, " the iron clad apples
sure to succeed." All these and, perhaps, many more reasons, could be given for
lack of success, and have caused such discouragement that the highest ambition of
most ])eople here seems to be to make the successful culture of grain, small fruits
and vegetables a sufficient source of income to provide for the importation of the
larger fruits from the Pacific coast, which bids fair to be the most successful fruit
region of the American continent.

Present Experiments.

Stonewall is situated ujion a ridge of land dividing the water-sheds of lakes
Winnipeg and Manitoba, and the municipality of Eockwood, in which it is situated,
forms, on a small scale of course, the Michigan of Manitoba — its peninsular location,
with its sheltering timber bluffs scattered over the prairie, exercising a most
ameliorating influence on the climate. In 1880 the writer made careful enquiries in
regard to fruit culture of Profs. Budd, Saunders and Messrs. Gibb, Sias, Pefl'er and
others. The very candid opinions given by these gentleman as to the capabilities
of this hyperborean region, gave a few scattered rays of hope. The Russians, hardier
than the Duchess, and crabs, truly Siberian, were recommended and selected.
Seeds of the northern-grown fruit were procured, and in the spring of 1887 about
half an acre of good garden sandy loam soil was planted. One year old apples, 12 feet
apart, with rows of raspberries, blackberries, curiants, gooseberries, strawberries and
vegetables, in intervening spaces, secured cultivation all over the garden, and the
trees and shrubs did remarkably well for a first season, and ripened up their wood
before the winter. In the spring of 1888, while none came out in leaf at the
terminals, the damage was confined to from i inch to 4 inches of previous season's
growth, but none were killed. A good, healthy growth was made during the season,
and again the dry fall weather hai-dened up the wood for winter storms. The
spring of 1889 opened fav >urably, and almost every tree burst its terminal buds, and
bid fair for a successful ^rowth. On the nights of 28th and 29th May a mther
severe frost wilted the opened buds, blasted plum, currant and gooseberry blossoms,
and many trees were seriously injured, but only two or three entirely succumbed
out of eighty apple trees. In the fall previous I noticed splitting of the bark at the
crown, and while I left tho mound of earth round the trees late in the spring, the

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trees so atteoted were the ones to die. The others, in some instances, lost nearly all
last season's wood ; but the majority showed loss damage, and all fought bravely
during past season, for existence, and if from 12 inches to 2 feet of growth is any
indication, their vitality may not be much impaired. The more than usual sno\v-
fall this winter atfords ample protection, and the melting snows in spring will no
doubt supply in abundance the necessary moisture to the roots. The reputed short-
lived Russians, natui-ally of dwarf habit, may necessitate continual planting, and
perhaps we may aspire no higher than apple bushes ; j'et the promise is, that irom
these w© shall have fruit, and the seeds hybridized by these northerners, with a
judicious sprinkling of Siberians, may give us the longer lived, tough iron-clad,
that will make fruit growing here a success. The varieties that so far liave seemed
most at homo here are Itussians-Lieby, 2-10 ; Red-Cheeked, Rubetz Natliv, 10!» ; A'or
Hibernal, HT8; Red Repka, 200; Autumn-Streaked. 004; Russian (rreen, HS2; Red
Yellow and Koursk Anis-Lords, 315 ; and Autonovka.

Seedlings and Hybrids: Whitney, Soiree, Early Strawberry, Martha, Cheriy,
Red, October, Florence and a number of Gideons, unnamed seedlings.

Plums — De Soto, Wolf, Speer, Arab, that I have had for three years. The tirst
three blossomed last year, but late frost destroyed fruit.

Blackberries — Snyder, Ancient Briton and Taylor. These all need covering,
but have boi-ne some fruit.

Raspberries — Turner and a Blackca]) (without ])rotection) have borne for two
years very well.

Gooseberries — Houghton and Downing, just coming to bearing.
Currants — Cherry, l?ed Dutch, Victoria, White Grape, Long Bunch Holland,
Naples, Lee's Prolitic and Wild Black.

Strawberries — Crescent, Downers' Prolific, and some others not yet fruited.
Mulched with straw.

The Beaconsfield nurseries, through our Agricultural Department, some years
ago distribuied a number of grape vines, some of which, in Winnipeg, I am told, are
bearing ; but not many efforts have been made in this direction, I have a few vines
from the Minnesota Agricultural College that I got last year. I am sui-e an apology is
due for the length of this paper, but on the question of fruit-raising Manitoba is
seldom heard from, and I beg you will excuse me for trespassing a little more upon
your patience by giving an sibstract of the weather for 1881), as prepai-ed by G, P,
Bliss, official observer in Winnipeg, and hope that in reading the accounts of 40° in
Manitoba it will be remembered that the etfects of extreme cold are far more keenlj-
felt, both by man and plants, in a maritime climate than in a continental one — 20°
below in Quebec being about equivalent to our 40*^. I also wish to call attention
to the fact that the average mean tem])erature for che three winter months in 1889
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Comparison Temj^rat^re.

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Tlie coldest weather in this country is caused by local waves whicli only
extend a few hundred feet at times and come from the north-west. The general
surface of the coimtry is not simultaneously affected by these waves. For instance,
on the 17th we had one fi-om the north-west which droppetl my instruments lower
than those within one mile of me; and while I registered — 4G, Stony Mountain
only registered — 28. This drop, — 4G, could have been registered in ten minutes,
and the same insti-ument show 10° less cold in a few minutes. The average mini-
mum reading of this country is not more than — 28 to — 30, and of that dry cold
which would not cause quick freezing. The damp atmosphere at — 15 is worse than
our dry climate at — 30. This I have proved, as an old observer in the service, in
many ways. I wish you would \<rite me derinitel}' what you wsuit. Ask it, and
3'ou shall have it. It is no trouble. I think you sJiould see the books and pick out
what you know would be useful to you. You caix see them any time you come in.
No. 21 Town street, they will show you all this information. Don't forget you are at
perfect liberty to have any information of use to you.

Yours faithfuUly,

GEO. P. BLISS

Official Observer.

Fruit Growinq in British Columbia.

The President. — ^We shall now listen to a paper on " Fruit Growing in British
Columbia" by Mr. G. W. Henry, of Port Hammond, B. C.

Mr. Henry then read the following paper : —

Could I write a paper on this subject five years from now I might give a very
different report from to-day, for the people are only begining to realize what the
capabilities of the country really are.

When I arrived in the Province in the spring of 1885, for the purpose of enter-
ing into fruit growing, upon making tours throughout the rural districts I was
much surprised at the unhealthy, rough appearance of the trees, which, as a rule,
represented the fruit-bearing orchai-dsof the Province. I afterwards learned that
this broken down appearanc^e was caused principally by the abundant, ear Ij'^ and con-
tinued yields of fruit given under a system of neglect.

One orchard in particular which T went to see, that is situated near where I am
located, and is called one of the largest and best orchards in the Province, not only
surprised me, but I might say almost discouraged me about going into fruit growing
in British Columbia, for the appearance it presented at that season ofthe year, before
the leaves were out, the branches broken down and twisted in all shapes, that, had
it been in Ontario, I would have considered they were not worth the ground they
occupied. Some of the trees were planted in the centre of large hollow cedar
stumps, the branches of the tree first spreading over the top of the stump, its trunk
being hidden entirely, others crowded in between stumps in all shapes, and upon
the oTonnd there had been an nnniml crop of haj'^ cut for twenty years,, of from three
to four tons per acre.

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When T learned all this, and found that the owner had annually sold immense
crops of ap|)les, plums iinil other fruits Irom the orchard I concluded that if such
crops of fruit as this could be raised under such conditions, soniethin<5 extraordinary
could l»e expected umler favourable circumstances.

I visited that same orchard a<i[uin in the autumn, and T could scarcely believe
those trees covered with such dark green foliage, showing a strange new growth of
wood, and loaded with beautiful fruit, were the same I saw presenting such a half
dead appearance in the early spring — but so it was, and I handled some of the hnest
fruit from that orchard 1 ever have in any country. The owner sold that year of
apples alone 82,00l» worth, besides ui)wards often tons of plums.

The pruning of these trees was done automatically, us it were — that is, each tree
annually bore such heavy crops that enough branches were broken with the load of
fruit each year to keep tlio top well opened to the sun and air.

1 noticed plum trees there this year, with the main central shoot broken otf
entirely from itt, load, and all the side branches hanging down, so as to give it the
shape of a well-trained Kilmarnock willow. At the time this orchard was planted it
was a very ditlicult task to get thej-oung trees for planting. Consequently, like many
of the other old orchards in existence, most of the trees were had by grafting on the
native crab, scions of ditt'erent varieties being procured wherever possible.

The results which have been obtained under all these difficulties are consequently
very gratifying, 'r. showing what may be accomplished under a proper system. This
orchaid I mention is planted on what is known as bottom land of the Fraser River
Valley-, which is seemingly inexhaustible. Much of the high land will produce equally
as gootl fiuit, but will roquii-e more feed and cultivation.

1 have spoken more particularly of the apple and plum, as they have been more
extensively grown than any other fruits, although the cherry has proved itself equally
successful. The trees of the Heart and Bigarreau varieties, especially, have grown to
a size j never saw equalled anywhere, and the quality and appearance of the
fruit certainly could not be surpassed.

Pears do not seem to have been planted much in the early daj's, no doubt because
of the ditftculty to procure the stock; nor di» they seem to adapt themselves to all
locations and classes ot soil as well as the others. Yet in many parts of the Province
the pear, 1 believe, can be grown more pioritably than any other fruit, and finer
samples could not be wished tor — the flavour being excellent and the size of finiit im-
mense. Specimens were shown at the Kxhibiticm last October weighing over two
pounds. Perhaps one of the most profitable fruits that can be grown in tlie country
is the prune, which is now being planted somewhat extensively.

Of peuches and grapes we do not find many specimens in bearing. Of the
former, what we do find are principally seedlings, and a few miles from the coast,
considering the stock they have, the results are very satisfactory. In regard to
grapes, I have seen vines of the Concord planted twenty years ago now with a trunk
() inches in iliametcr, covering an immense area, and bearing half a ton of giapes in one
season, a growth and yield I think hard to excel in any country; although the vines
liave never had any training or thinning out, the fruit ripened up well and gave
some as fine samples as I ever saw. Now that I have given you some idea of the
fruit growing of the past, I come to speak more particularly of my own experience,
and what has taken place more directly under my own observation during the last
thi-ee years, and will give you some of the results which have been secured under
perhaps more than ordinary good care and culture.

Beginning with apples, I might mention an oi'chard of 200 trees that I imported
to the country from Ontario in the fall of 1885. They were planted in the spring of '8fi,
and in the season of 1889 yielded an average crop of one bushel to a tree. This is an
exceptional result, and was secured by extra good care. But it shows what can be
done. I have had young apple trees make an annual growth of 6 feet in the branches,
plums and cherries 8 feet — and this not at the expense of the trunk. Standai-d pear
trees have not, with me, made aa satisfactory a growth ; but my dwarf peurs, of
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your Itoro Home fine 8po(•imon^^ of fruit. Pouches and apriots liavo nitulo a urowtli
which is almost boyoml beliot"; in two yjais they havtJi^rowii from a little trt'e ."{ feet
high and \ inch in calibre to a tree with a largo sproailing top, having branches of
this years growth 7 foot in length ami a trunk S inches in circumferenco, and last
season (tho second year after planting) some of thorn bore fruit.

With grapes I have had varieties make 15 foot growth tho season of transplant-
ing, and others that brought some tino bunches of fruit to perfection the same
8eas<m.

But perhaps my greatest successes have been with the smaller fruits. In st raw-
berries I can give as the result of i of an acre of Sharploss strawbor' les a yield of
§200 worth of berries in one season, or 1,SOO quarts, some specimens measuring 8
inches in circumfei-ence. In raspberries, last summer I had a yield from four rows
of 75 feet in length each, the first j'ear after planting, H50 quarts, or at rate of over
200 bushels to the acre, wbk'ii 1 fully expect will bo considerably excoodod this
year. I have measured raspberry canes 13 foot long, which had been nipj)ed back
twice during the growing season. In currants, Fay's Prolific and Leo's Prolific, tho
third 3'oar from cuttings have yielded one quart to tho bush. Gooseborrios ecjually
strong-growing and prolific. Last year I hail lu'lustry gooseberries measuring U-
inch in length and 1 inch in diameter

Blackberries also grow and proiluco luxuriantly. I have ti-ied Figs twice; the
first year they winter killed entirely, but last year I had some trees come through
safely without protection. My soil is of tho very best composition, so that the
account I have given you would hardly be a fair estimate of what could bo always
expected; yet by good cultivation there is no reason why in many parts of the
Province equally good results cannot be secured.

Although I believe that in no part of the continent is there to-day as bright a
future for the fruit-grower as in British Columbia, yet I would not have you think
that there are no enemies to contend with, or no ditficultiesto overcome, for it might
only be the cause of leading many into disappointment anil failure, and do more
harm to the fruit-growing interests of the Province than good. True, we have no
curculio, no black knot, nor has the apple or pear many insect enemies. Hut in the
first place the cost of getting the land cleared and fit for fruit-growing, is enormous;
then all kinds oi labour is so expensive, also the cost of getting fiuit to market and
everything in connection with tho woi-k. Then our markets as yet are limited ;
and we have got into no thorough system of handling fruit, whereby there may bo
disappointment experienced before that success is secured which is sure to come to
the diligent fruit-grower in time. For markets both in the east and west are bound
to be opened up for our fruit. Information will be diffused by our Fruit (rrowors'
Association, and much can bo learned by us from tho similar associations in these
Provinces, and conventions of this kind, and although we are late in getting a start
in fruit-gi'owing wo will have tho benefit of tho experiences that have been gained
in older fruit-growing countries, which will save us many mistakes. Instead
of having to wait and hunt up remedies, after insects and disease do come,
(as they are sure to do when fruit is more extensively grown), we will have our
weapons ready to meet these enemies beforehand, procured at the expense of others.
Yet we have our grievances, which have got here too soon for us, but which we
hope t/> procure remedies for here, to a certain extent. Tho matter that was
agitated most at our last meeting of fruit growers was the lack of a system of
handling and marketing plums and some other soft fruits, a difficulty which I am
sure we will soon overcome.

Another matter of great importance to us is one over which we have no
control, but which can be controlled from Ottawa, and which we hope will be
remedied at this Session of Parliament — that is, the present tariff; for the way it
now is, all green fruit that we can grow in this Province is admitted free of duty
from other countries, while on dried and canned fruits, which we do not as yet
produce to any extent, also on some of tho foreign fruits which we cannot grow, the
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coinpoto with Ciilifoinia, Oro^oii, or any other coiiiitry in the growing of curtain
k'lwU ot'l'rui*s, when we irot fairly ostahlishod ; liut thiMlitticulty is that their fruit
matui'CM miicK oailio*' than ours, they have heen loiij^wr estahlislieJ in tlio inclubtry,
they iiave the full benefits ot their own markets, an<l then as soon as the ^'liit comos
they send their surplus styek into our markets, whieh just meets our tirst fruit on
whieh the most money is to he ma<le.

This soems a speeial legislation a/jfainst us. The Dominion Government have
gone to eonsiderabU' expense in eallini; to<,'ether this convention, and it is a /^ood act,
one whieli wo hope will l»e productive of mucli IteiieMt to the fruit j^rowers through-
out the Dominion. Now that they have called us together and learned our
grievance we expect they will do what tliey can to assist us to the best advantage.

There are other drawbacks <if a smaller nature, such as the accumulation
of moss on trees during the wet season, and some of the insect pests which bother
the apple tree; but these are easily disposed of. We also occasionally hoar com-
plaints of the bark sjditting on jiluni and cherry trees. Again, there are seasons
M'hen the weather kee)»s very warm and mild so late that the young fruit trees of all
vaiietien, keejiing up a lapid temler giowth, are caught suddenly by the first frosts
and killed back; in sonu' cases the trees are killed entirely. Hut the most
destructive enemy we have is that which causes dead sjxtts on our young a])ple trees.
These spots make their tirst apjtearance in cai-ly spring, and sometimes cause the
dcatli of the young t:ees, by spreading all the way around it. The injury has
evidently been done the previous suinmer, but does not show itself until the bark
turns black the following spring. ►Sometimes these young trees have dozens of these
spots on them, and if the tree is not killed outright a great detil of injury is caused.
This trouble has only been found in certain ])laces, and does not seem to bo general.
If the injury is not caused by the ravago** of sonic insect, then the disease must be
contagious, for it is only when young trees are planted a<ljacent to other trees
affected in the same way that we find them injnrcd. Whatever the cause may be
it is a matter of the utmost importance to our orchtirdists that the cause should bo
learned, and the cure, if any.

We now have in our midst an experimentnl farm carried on by the Government
under the supervision of I'rof Saumlers. and through it we hope to receive much
benefit, for I believe one of the most imjKjrtant features is to bo the testing of
fruit trees.

In this paper I have tried to give you an idea of what has been done in fruit-
growing in British Columbia in the jjibst and what we hope to iiccomjjlish in the
future, if the Government will assist us in rectifying the present tariff; for wo have
an association, made uj> of experienced fruit-growers, who will lio continually
experimenting and disseminating information throughout the Province, whereby,
with knowledge we can push forwai'l in our work, so that soon wo may see our
fertile valleys and rich uplands covered with trees loaded with their precious fruits —
not only orchards ot the apple, pear, plum and cherry, but the golden fruit of the
peach and apricot will be ripening in our gardens, iuid luscious grapes Imnging in
tempting clusters in our vineyards, blovssing us with the fruits of our own labours.
We hope many from these eastern Provinces will find their way aci'Oss the vast
plains and wondrous mountains that divide us to that western slope towards the
great Pacific into a rniUlei- climate, where the warm Chinook winds have already
softened wintei-'s cold breath .ami started vegetation into life, and there unite with
us in making British Columbia what she is destined to bo, one of the most profitable
fruit-growing countries in the world.

Mr. Starratt. jSova Scotia. — 1 have listened with a good deal of interest to Mr.
Henry's paper. 1 consider it exceptionally interesting, and judging from tJio manner
in which the convention listened to it, it has been appreciated. 1 have no doubt
that Mr. Henry will make a success of fruit-growing in British Columbia.

The President. — Our next paper will be by Mr. John Craig, but recently
appointed Horticulturist to the Central Experimental Farm at Ottawa. The subject
is '• Promising Cherries for Northern Latitudes."

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Mr. Cr.vhi. — AHonrtimu is limitfd. I will rmt wniry you with any itifliiniiiary
romurks, hut proccoil diroutly to my sui)jcrt.

PHOMISIXG CHKRUrKS FOIt XOIITirKRX LATITUDKS.

Bv John Ciiahj, IIoRTrcui.TiiusT to ('KNTii.\r- Kxi'KiiniKXTAt, F.\u>r.

Aconnliiiir to Dc'CamlolU', our most ri'lialiK) autliority on ihf orii^iu of s|ioc'ic«.
ail variotifs of tlio cuitivah'il rjiorry lioloncr to two spocios wliich aiv fniiiid wijil
1. Prnniis nvium: Tall, with no siickors from the roots, h-avt's downy lii'noatli, fruit,
swwt. This is HUpposod to havii hocii Ihf pan-nt of tho Iloartand Hi;^arroau
varieties. This species, from whioji th(> hlacU and whitt'chfrrifsaredovclopod. <:row.s
wild in Asia; in tin* forests of (ihilan (north of I'orsia). in the IJussian Provinces
to the south of the Caucasus and in Armenia; in Kuropo, in the south ot Russia
nropor, and i,'encrally from the south ofJ^wcden to tin; mountainous jiarisot (Ircecc.
Italy and Spain. 2. /'ninus •■enisus : Sour <'horry, shorter, with sucker^ from tim
I'oots, leaves iilahrous, and the fruit more or le>s sour or hitter. From this we have
the Dukes and Morellos. Tliesc are supposed hy DeCamlollo to have heeii known to
Greek eivili/afion very early, and to have heen in cultivation in Italy and Kurope
lon<; helore the White ITearts were introduced from Asia .>rinor.

I'he natural distriliution of the wild repiesentatives of holh classes, tho Hearts
and M(»rellos, seems much the same, thouu^h tlie cultivatetl representatives ot the
lattei- have a much wider distrihulion in northei-n and e;islern Furo|io at the jtre-
sent time. This class seems to have had a i^reater climatic adaptahility than their
tendei'er relatives, tho Hearts, and to have ixrailually worked northw.ird and oast-
ward till they have become common roadside trees in Poland and Central Russia.
Before reachinjj; this northern latitude thoy have liecome. however, specialized forms,
ditlbrinj; materially from our west lOuropean types, as represented by tho iventish
and Xlorello varieties — soditl'erent, indeed, in leaf, hud and texture of hark, asalruost
to point to a ditferent oiii;in. The west Kuropean .Morellos, which in ordinary or
avera<^e seasons have heen fairly successful south of the 4;{rd parallel, in tho some-
what (Iry western andmifldle Slates, and further noi'th in tho moistor, thoui;h colder,
portions of Canada, have in late years, from one cause or another, as in the west, in-
jury from winterand black knot, an<l bark burstini^ in the east. i>een dyini;; >o rapi<lly
and ^;iviiiu^ such poor rotur-ns as to compel the thoughtful planter to look for
varieties more suitetl, if possible, to the vicissitudes of climate north of lines
indicated.

Within a few years several varieties, as instances (Jstheim ;ind Wragg, have been
brouglit into notice as having special (pialitications in the way of hardiness and
adaptability to climale. As far as we can learn, those varieties have been '• incidental
seedlings from east F^uropc importations, and to have inherited their hardiness from
typical varieties of those regions." The result of investigation is that several
inijiortalions followed, being special and personal selections made by Prot". J, L.
Badd, of the Iowa Agricultural College, in lS83-t. These introductions comprise
about forty vjirieties. From four years of personal ^>bservation, and from reports
received from widely-separated sources, I am led to believe that we shall find among
them many adapted to tlie more trying districts of (^uonec and Ontario, antl the
milder portions of the North-West. But sliould our success be only partial with the
originals, we can still use them as stepping-stones to something better, by means of
crossing an<l selection, and this line of advance will have a prominent place in the
horticultural work of the farm.

I will name a few of the principal groups comparing favourably in ojiality with
Early Richmond, and surpassing it in hardiness, as fur as tested. Beginning with those
of the same season, among the most prominent are Orel 2;{, June Amarelle, King's
Amarelle, and Strauss Weichsel. With the exception of King's Amarelle, which is
excellent for canning, they are all better in quality than Early Bichmond. So far
they have endured a dry atmosphere, and 30*^ below zero, with little snow on the
ground, at tho same time being used as buil and scion stock.

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Among those ripe with Late Richmond, or Late Kentish, as sometimes called,
may be mentioned JBrussellei' Braiin, Lutovka, Frauendorfer Weichsel, Griotte du
Nord, Orel 24, Orel 27, and Bessarabian, This collection will cover a period of about
two weeks, beginning with Lutovka and closing with Bessarabian. Prof. Budd, in
speaking of this last, says that " it will endure more abuse of tree than most of our
forest trees. Our original specimen has been cut for buds and scions for five years,
taking off nearly all the new growth, j'et the tree is sound to-day." Fruit large,
firm-fleshed, and when ri])e very mildly sub-acid ; it pi-omises to make a long lived
tree of considerable size, and to prove a regular bearer of choice fruit.

The members of the next group to which I wish to call your attention are more
or less dwarfs in habit, and mature their fruit with the English Morello. These are
Shadow Amarelle, Spate Amarelle, and Large Long Late ; with Spate Amarelle as
earliest. The fruit of these should be allowed to hang on the tree till of a dark j)ur-
plish colour when fully ripe. The trees are smaller than English Morello, with pen-
dulous habit. As fruited in 1880, they were superior to Wragg for dessert use.

Anothei- class, belonging to the Vladimir family, coming from Orel and north-
ward to Kazan, Eussia, is represented by Orel and Shubianka. These are specially
promising fov the dry sections of the Xorth-West Territories. They are shrubby in
habit, having the appearance of large currant bushes rather than trees. The leaves
are very small ; the twigs so slender as to be difficult to gi-aft. They come into
bearing early — when 3 or 4 feet high. Fruit, size of Montmorency, nearly
black when ripe and mildly sub-acid. With this cherry on a hardy stock, such as
the small-growing western forms of Bird Cherry (Primus Penimjlvanica) — or Sand
Cheri'y (Prunvs pumilla), — the first of which it has been budded upon with success, —
we should be able, very materially, to extend the limit of profitable cherry growing
northward. These cherries probably belong U> the same race as the "Koslor bush
Morello" recently imported by the Fi-uit Growers' Association, through Mr.
Neimetz, of Odessa. The forty trees of this variety now at the farm, and imported
with the association's consignment, will be increased as rapidly as possible, for dis-
tribution to the colder pai-ts of the Dominion. We will probably find some variation
among the originals, as they are seedlings from the parent tree; but Mr. Neimetz
assui-es us that the cherries grown from pits do notvary, and its earljj'-bearing habits
will aid very much in the matter of selection.

As root-grafting the cheiry is not generally practised, a few remarks in that
connection may not bo out of place. I am strongly of the opinion that grafting the
cherry is bettci- for the planter, than propagation by budding. Thft root grafts are
set down to the last l(,ud on the scion as in apple grafts, thus giving the moi-e or less
tender mazzard stock additional i)rotection and encourages rooting from the scion.
"When set still deeper in the orchard they are })iacticaily out of danger of root-
killing. I have with me a few specimens illustrating the method. The scions are
cut after the twigs are thoroughly matured, and before hard freezing, which is apt
to weaken their vitality. They are firmly ])acked in forest leaves. In sand or moss
it is difficult to preserve them in a strictly normal condition, owing to improper
degree of moisture, often absorbing too much water. The scion is set in the root at
the crown by the mode known as side grafting; the wedge should be about equally
thick on both sides — if any ditlerence is made, the outside should be slightly thickest.
Again, if too much difierence is made in this direction the whole piessui'c coming
upon the camhiam layer, the conditions are very unfavourable to growth of cell
structure, by which the root and scion become united. Waxed thread and grafting
wax are used to bind and cover the union. A mixtui-e of equal parts of sand and
earth seems to make the best material in which to pack the grafts for winter
storage. The same dangei- must be guarded against here as in scion packing — that
of too much moisture. This will cause the buds to swell before planting — a con-
dition which is never followed b}- a good stand in nursery, except where the roots are
equally 'ulvanced, ind this wo seldom find to be the case under ordinary cellar con-
ditions. The simplest kind of cellar, with means for ventillation, serves the purpose.
It should be kept near the freezing point by opening in the evening and keeping it

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closed through the day when practicable. In thin way a low temperature may usually
be preserved, and the grafts kept perfectly dormant till planting time.

In closing, I wish to say a word in favour of mixed planting, especially in regard
to cherry .and plum orchards. By mixed planting I mean the intermingling of
varieties. With small fruits the principle is established ; with plums it is recognized ;
and late observations in various countries, notably in California and Europe, incline
to the belief that alternating varieties in the cheriy and plum orchard favours
regular and continued fruitage. It is advanced by Prof. Budd and othei-s that a
variety which may be relatively a poor beai-er when planted alone and depending on
its own pollen may be found regularly fruitful when intermingled with other sorts;
and further, that if the weather during the blossoming season is hot and windy a
\ariety may mature and waste its pollen before the pistils are in a condition to oe
fertilized. In such cases, if surroiindeil l)y different sorts, the woi-k might still be
performed through the agency of insects and the breeze.

I will only add that I wish the title ol" my paper to be borne in mind in con-
nection with statements made, and the varieties touched upon regarded as pi'omising
in advance of more extended tests, though many may develop tiefects not yet noted.
But from varieties herein mentioned, or others not named of the same race, we will
I believe, be able to select sorts which, if not of the highest quality, will at loast make
cherry growing more protitable and satisfactory in noithern latitudes.

The President. — As the time has now ai-rived that we should adjourn this meet-
ing, I must ask you to forego discussion on Mr. Craig's paper for the present.

The Convention adjourned until 2 p. m.

Friday Afternoon.

The Convention re-assembled at 2 o'clock. Prof. Peniiallow presiding.

The President. — The tirst paper we may consider is one of great viiliie, having
been contributed by B. E. Fernow, Chief of the Forestry Division, "Washington.
Mr. Fernow is not here, because of a similar engagement with the American
Horticultural Society ; but Prof. Saunders has the paper in hand, and will present it
to the meeting :

Forest Influences : by B. E. Fernow, Chief of Forestry Division, Department

OF Aqriculture, Washington, D. C.

We have beard a great deal during the last ten or twenty years of the intluonce
which the forest exercises on the climate, the rainfall, the How ofsprincs and rivers;
and tbosp who have entertained an-' advocated the view that such influence exists
have pointed to the far eastern countries, which once fertile, and verdant, are now
desolate and arid wastes ; they have related the devastations by the torrents in
southern France due to forest destruction, and in Italy, Switzerland, Tyrol ; tliey
have explained the lack of rain in Spain and on our own cential plains by the
absence of tree-growth, and have advocated tree-planting in order to increase rain-
fall. Wherever a flood occui-re ' forest destruction has been blamed as the cause ;
even 11.>e drought which has been experienced during the last summer in the western
country has been brought into relation with the unusually large forest destruction
by fire with which the western mountains were swept.

While there is undoubtedly much truth in the observations which have led to
the general popular belief that forest and climatic conditions have certain lelations
to eiich other, the generalizations have, it is to be feared, often been carried too fai-.
Consequently, those who did not share in this belief have denied forest influences-
altogether, have ov<^n considered the theories which such great men as Humboldt,^
Buffon, Boussingault invd in regard +o them as fallacious, and demanded better proof
than the very-day obsei nations, w'.ich, they said, leave out a consideration of other
causes Avhich may have had s'lniiar effect to that which was ascribed to forest
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which they can bo convinced is by a scientific demonstration based upon careful
measurements, experiments and obsei'vations. The hist few years have, therefore,
been iliiigently used by some investigators, who do not intend to prove any theories
but to simply tind out the truth. Out of the large amount of material which has
been accumulated I have tried to summarize what wo really do know of the in-
fluence that the forest may t tercise upon the climate.

I say " maj' " exercise, because whether it does or does not depends upon certain
conditions, just as 'it depends upon certain conditions whether a cloud full of
moisture will precipitate the same or is dissolved without precipitation. This must
be full}- understood.

The influence which a forest can possibly exorcise is, in the first place, mainly
due to its nature as a cover, l^ow, whether we place our cover before or behind the
wind the effect will bo different. The position, therefore, towards other climatic
factors is of importance. We may have a cover made of mosquito netting oi' one
made of wool; the effect of either, of courftO, will be different. Similarly so with a
forest ; the density, its age or height, and the extent of forest is of consequence. The
.composition, too, must be of some moment, for a coniferous wood acts as a cover all
the year round, while a deciduous-leaved one loses much of its protective features
during the winter.

AVe see, therefore, that it would not be wise to speak of the forest in general
terms as doing this or that, but we can only speak of a forest under certain condi-
tions, and therefore in certain localities as influential, while in other localities, under
different conditions, the influence may not be felt or may be just the opposite of the
one experienced in the first case. The influence may be beneticial and it may be
objectionable. Thus, a large forest against the north-west may temper the cold
blizzai'd, while towards the north-east it may cut ofl' ilesirable rain-winds. In c^ne
locality it may be desirable to have a shelter against a burning south-wester, while
in another the efl'ects of the warm wind are needed to raise the otherwise low
temperature.

ft may also bo conceded at once that cosmic influences, such as mountains and
large water surfaces exercise, are mightier than forest influences, and that the latter
are probably only of local importance in modifying climatic conditions, and the
extent of their influence is conflned to their nearest surroundings. Yet these very
surroundings are the ones in which each of us lives, and since we cannot change the
cosmic climate we should be satisfied to modify it locally, if that can be done.

In the first place, we know, from actual measurement and comparison, that the
climatic conditions in the interior of and above a contiguous forest area are different
from those of a large open fleld in the neighbourhood. This difterence is due to the
protection of the soil from direct sunshine and to the increase of the area which
radiates heat, to the evaporation of the water from the leaves and the mechanical
obstacles presented to the circulation of the atmosphere — the winds. In
consequence, we find that the forest shows a reduced range of temperature — that is to
say, neither the extremes of heat nor of cold are as great in a forest as without the
forest. It is cooler in summer and warmer in winter ; it is a mitigator of extremes in
temperature; it has a more uniform temperature.

2. Thii. mitigating difference is found still greater in the temperatures of the
soil, the range in the forest soil being ten to fifteen degrees less than in the field soil.

3. The forest increases the humidity of the air in its interior, especially during
the dry months, and altogether the moisture conditions of the forest air are more
uniform.

4. The soil in the forest loses six to ten times less wafer by evaporation, and
therefore remains more evenly moist than the field.

5. That the forest interior is less exposed to the action of winds will be readily
conceded ; hence, shifting sands, such as found along sea shores, would bo kept quiet
and of course evaporation greatly reduced.

6. The air above a forest is generally cooler and relatively moister than it would
be without the foi-est cover.

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1. The crowns of the trees diminish the force of the rain falling upon the soil,
so that the latter is not as much compacted.

From this knowledge of the climatic conditions of the forest interior we may-
judge of the change of conditions on the same area after the removal of the forest.

The deforested area naturally would show —

1. Greater extremes of temperature of air as well as of soil.

2. Average moisture of the air lowered.

3. Qn a shallow soil with impenetrable subsoil formation of morasses is possible.
while on deep soils more rapid desiccation of the soil is to be anticipated.

•i. Possibly, if the deforested area was extensive, a decreat'o of atmospheric
precipitation might occur, and at least its distribution throughout the year would be
changed.

5. On light and sandy soil, especially near the coast, where winds are strongest,
the shifting of sands and formation of dunes is facilitated.

6. In the mountains deforestation causes torrents, cariying away ddbi'is into
the valleys; land slides and snow slides are induced, because the mechanical retard-
ing influence of the soil-cover and of the trunks upon the superficial flow of water
ceases.

"What the removal of the forest will do in changini; the climate of an adjoining
country of open ground is much more difficult to state. In fact, positively, we do
not know much about it. The influence of an existing forest may be direct or in-
direct— direct by communicating the characteristics of its own climate to the
neigbbourhood ; indirect by interposing its protective cover against and breaking the
force of the winds, which would oiherwise have free sweep over the fields.

Evaporation is the great dissipator of moisture, and the dry north-western ar.d
southern winds are its powerful aids.

A conception of the amount of evapDration may be had from the measurements
of the Uniteil States Signal Service. In the western country the evaporation ranges
from 25 to over 101 inches dui-ing the year. To choose a place near the Canadian
frontier, take Fort Assiniboine, in Montana. Tlie evaporation during the year was
39'5 inches, while during the same year the precipitation was only 17 inches (some-
what above the average) ; therefore, adeflcit of 22-5 inches to satisfy the demands of
evaporation alone. How mucii of this must be placed to the account of the evapo-
rative power of winds we cannot tell, but tliis amount must bo largo, since according
to experiments of the Signal Office with the temperature of the air 84 degrees and
the relative humidity at 50 per cent., the evaporation witii a wind at only Ave miles
an hour was 22 times that in a calm, and with increased velocity the rate of evapo-
ration was six times as large as that observed in a sheltered, calm position. But the
wind at Fort Assiniboine during every month in the year reaches a maximum of
over 3fi miles, and as much as 58 miles, while its average is certainlj'not less than 12
miles an hour, to wiiich corresponds a rate of evaporatiim of over four times that in
the calm atmosphere.

When it comes to such warm, dry winds as the Foehn in Switzerland, and the
Chinook on our Rocky Mountain slopes, a snow cover of 2^ feet and more in depth
will vanish absolutely in twelve hours' time before its insatiable (hirst.

The mere mechanical action of the forest alone in breaking the force and
velocity of winds, which tlie windbreak, of course, exhibits in a less degree, is most
obviously a potent influence in preserving humiility.

Even without taking special account of this inlluence, direct measurements have
established that the evaporation from soil kept saturated with water during the
seven months, from April to October, was in the open 40*8, in the pine woods 15-0,
anil under the shelter of deciduous trees 6-2 — that is to say, the water was evaporated
in the field (]^ times as fast as under the forest cover. Here, again, the influence in
retarding evaporation is most potent, and explains the beneficial influence of a forest
cover on the now of springs.

Popular writei's have been jdcased to compare the forest floor with a sponge
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to feed the springs, and thus account for the observation, that mostly — but by no
means always — forest areas produce moi-e constant flow of springs. But, first of all,
the forest floor is not like a sponge ; and secondU', a sponge would not act as these
writers conceive it. The experiment is easily made. To be sure, the sponge will
take up large amounts of water until it is fully saturated, but not a drop will it give
up below, unless it is ]>ressed or more water is added. As soon as the water supply
stops it begins to evaporate at the top, and supplies itself by means of its capillary
forces with moisture from below. It would, thoi-efore, be apt to drain off any
moisture offered to it fiom below, instead of giving up its oAvn moisture. Fortunately
the forest floor has only to a slight degree this water capacity of a sponge, a moss-
cover coming probably the nearest to it, and, therefore, being the most objectionable.

In so far as it does have the capiMury foices of a sponge, it withholds the water
from the soil and from the springs, and yet this very withholding capacity, this very
loss of moisture to the soil, does produce a beneficial influence on the flow of springs
by checking again the most avai-icious robbei- of moistuie — evaporation.

A forest litter, according to depth and kind, will allow from GO to 75 per cent,
of the rain falling upon it to filter through to the soil, while the moss gives up
hardly more than 40 to 50 per cent. But the nak?il soil loses, by evaporation, its
"water so quickly, that only 20 to 40 per cent, will find its way into the drainage.

This protection of the water supply is equal to that of a mulching or to the
cultivation in the field, naniel}-, simply as a check against loss of Avr ^r by evapora-
tion. Besides, there is in this cover a protection of the granular stinicturo of the
soil. Such granular structure makes the subterranean drainage easier than on a
naked soil, which is beaten together and compacted by the raindrops, and at last
makes the water run ott superficially. The same efiect, of breaking the force of the
raindrops, is due to the interception of the rainfall by the foliage, which, to be sure,
"withholds from 10 to 15 per cent, from the soil altogether, and thus this amount is
lost to the soil.

Another loss of water for the springs and runoft' is represented in the amount
that is utilized by the trees in growing, if, indeed, this may be called a loss; for it
produces useful material, and the amount of water which is returned to the atmos-
phere in the transpiration from the leaves aids in producing those very conditions
above and in the forest which may make it a climatic factor for its surroundings,
nameh', an area of cooler and at the same time moister air strata, with a tendency
to condensation.

It is interesting here to state that the amount of water needed by the plant is
somewhat in the proportion ottered to it : that is to say, in dry seasons and in dry
regions the same species of tree will transpire proportionately less water than if the
supply is ample. Conifers require from six to ten times less water than deciduous trees.

1 have made a calculation upon the basis of some rough figures which give the
amount of transpiration by various trees, and fin<l that a coniferous forest in the west,
taking the rainfall at 2h inches, or 4.500,000 ])()uii(ls of water to the acre, would
hardly tianspire more than 330,000 pounds, or 8 per cent, of the total precipitation
during the period of vegetation. So that the loss to the soil "waters from this
source would not appear as great as some are inclined to believe.

Lastly, beyond any disjiute and easily understood is the influence of the forest
on the runort', and especially on the superficial runort' — from mountain slopes.
Here again, the simple mechanical obstruction which the inequalities of the forest
floor and the trunks offer is the principal fiictor of influence. But also by distribut-
ing the water niflerenth' into sHl)tei'ranean and superficial runott'fiom what it would
have been on a naked slope, an influence ujton the system of s])rings and brooks is
exerted. Yet when it comes to extremes of rainfall, even the best kept forest and
forest floor — and we know but few such in the United States — would not be able to
prevent the floods. In such cases the topography is decisive, and on the steep slopes
'■^a West Virginia river-bed, for instance, no forest cover is capable of retarding the
runoff of a hea\y rain and the freshet that is bound to come. When it comes to
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so many additional considemtions must enter into the discussion that it would lead
us too far to attempt it here.

The influence upon the runoff of the water may be summarized as follows : —

A. — In regard to Springi.

1. The forest floor prevents the filtration of a certain part of the precipitation ;
yet the larfrest portions of the snow water and of abundant rainfall filter into smaller
or larger depths, according to the condition of the soil. Although this amount is
greater on soil not covered, and although the process of vegetation of the forest trees
consumes a certain amount of this water, yet the protection afforded against evapora-
tion more than balances this loss.

2. The forest, therefore, reserves in the end larger quantities of water forftrma-
tion of springs. Probably these amounts are also increased by the greater amount
of condensation of atmospheric moisture over its area.

B, — In regard to Superficial Runoff.

3. Moderate rains ma^' be retarded by forest crowns and forest floor from running
oft' superticiall}', and are mainly carried oft" by springs alone. The conditi mis of
permeability of the soil and of slojie determine this, however, often moie than the
forest; so that in densely wooded localities, with an impeimeable soil and steep
slopes, the water is after all shed more rapidly into the creeks and rivers than in
unforested or even entirely naked regions with a permeable soil and gi adual slope.

4. When extreme and continuous rainfalls occur the foi-est cannot practically
and eft'ectivel3' reduce the amount that will come to run off sujierficially, but its
influence may be beneficial in retarding the confluence of the little rills and rivulets
of the runoft'.

5. In mountainous districts the forest is of utmost importance in protecting the
soil against abrasion and preventing the formation of torrents, which carry rocks
»>id debris into the rivers, and thereby increase the danger of floods, even in the
rivers, and make navigation precarious.

With this brief review of our knowledge as to what forest influences we may
reasonably expect, there is, I hope, enough lieneficial and desirable influence re-
maining to deserve our close attention, even if we are not willing to generalize as
broadly as some of our friends have done in their enthusiastic plea for the forest.

May there be found in Canada sufficient broad statesmanship, sufficient intelli-
gence in regard to the administration of its economic resources, to insure, first, a
proper policy of pi'otecting her mountain forests against unnecossaiy, wasteful and
harmful destruction, alid, secondly, a systematic ])lanting of timber bells through
the treeless plains for the amelioration of their climatic, and especially their water
conditions.

Prof. Saunoeks — In confirmation of this statement advanced by Prof.
Fernow as to the great importance of even light forest protection in preventing
evaporation, I would cite a case that came under my observation on our Experi-
mental Farm in Manitoba during this last year. On the blutfs that rise from the
Assiniboia River there is a certain amount of scrub to the height of (5 or 8
feet. Although this scrub was so low, when we cleared a place for fruits in it we
allowed a margin of this undergrowth to remain as a protection against the drying
winds which sweep ovei- the prairie. The fruit and ornamental trees which wore

Elanted there have grown without the least injury to the foliage from wind, and
avo grown much more luxuriantly than those not so protected. A large proportion
of trees that are i)lanted on the westei-n plains are injured by being blown about
and become battered and bruised by the winds, but in the instance referi-ed to, a
very marked difference can be observed between the plantation ])rotected by this
low"growth of scrub and plantations outside of it. This experience bears out the
statement advanced by Prof. Fernow, that one of the most important points in con.

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nection with forest cover is the influence it exerts in preventing the injury which
arises from constant wind dr^Mng the moisture out of the ground and evaporating
what is necessaiy for the successful growth of the trees.

Perhaps I may be allowed a moment or two, if there is no discussion on this
paper, to make an explanation. When I was addressing the Convention yesterday, and
giving a rapid review of horticultural progress in different parts of the Dominion, I
omitted an important point with respect to Manitoba. I began to describe the con-
dition of things on the Red River bolt, which is about 50 miles wide at its widest
part, and I left out in my statement the more important considerations involved in
the country outside of that belt. One thing I omitted to do which, in justice, I
want to do now — that is, to refer to the collection of fruit trees made by Mr.
Frank-land at Stonewall, which I lately had the pleasure of inspecting. This gentle-
man is reiiresenting Manitoba on this occasion. Mr. Frankland's plantation is on a
gravelly soil, and I found everywhere in Manitoba that plantations on gravelly soil
succeeded better than those on the rich heavy prairie loam, which seems to stimulate
protracted and late growth, and does not give the trees time to ri|)en up their wood
before winter. I saw at Mr. Frankland's place enough to encourage me a very great
deal with respect to the future of fruit-growing in Manitoba. Uo has a number of
varieties of apples, plums and cherries, which are young yet, but which were endur-
ing the winters and promising to eventually become good trees.

Mr. Staur. — I would like to saj' a word with regai-d to shelter belts. My own
experience in orchard-growing is that they are of gieat value; and if they are so in
Nova Scotia, where wo have a range of mountains, would they not be very much
more so in the open plain, where no such natural protection exists. In an orchard of
m}' own, .ome eighteen or nineteen years old, I have on the north side a belt of trees
running 40 or 50 ieet high. It is quite a narrow belt. A young orchard has been
placed on the north side of that belt, and yet I have found that the pi'otection on
the noith side is almost equal to that on the south side. It acts as a wind-break,
and the heavy winds pass over the tops of the trees. This is particularly noticeable
when the fruit is about half grown and would be injured by the v.'ind

The President. — Perhaps it might be well to defer the discussion of this paper
until we have another, which is practically on the same subject, fi-om Mr. Phipps,
who is the Commissioner of Forestry in Ontario. Then we can discuss the two
together.

WixD Breaks : By R. W. Phipps, Commissioxer of Forests, Toronto.

Mr. Phipps. — I am most happy to be able to address you on this occasion, know-
ing that I have before mo some of the most prominent men in the fruit-growing line
to be found in the country, and perhaps I may be permitted at the outset to say a
word or tw^ respecting the ])apei' which has just been read. I wish to say a word
tirst on the spongy floor of the forest. AVhen you get into an old country forest it
is ten to one that you will find that floor of grass. I did not find one that was other-
wise. Xow, if the rain descends on that it is not at all so much like a sponge as a
forest in its natural condition. As we find the floor here, it is deeply covered with a
mass of deciduous leaves. That is the condition our forests will be in if cattle be
kept out. In its luxtural condition the forest will bo filled with a beautiful young
undei'growth, which will also assist very largely to hold the water. I will give you
:\n instance. I know a forest — in fact 1 owned — it on the summit of a hill in this
countr}-, which stood for thirty years to my knowledge. The rains descended and the
lioods came, but the for-est floor never changed. The forest was as good when the
axe was laid to it, as I had known it thirty years previoush' ; but after this forest was
gone and there was a wheat field where it stood, then when the rain fell you could

see that a great change had come about. The soil was washed away untill knew it
to be banked up 2 feet deep against the fences. That is to show the character of
the forest floor. As soon as the forest was cleared the soil was washed away, and
washed away so dreadfully that those fields are not worth much now. I have been
through hundreds of forests, but I have never yet seen the water run when the rain

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fell as it docs in the fields. It seems to sink in, and it is undoubtedly held there in
this country. Wherever the forest has its pr()]>er condition it has a heavy bed of
leaves, as well as clustering circumflexes of young trees. Wherever that is the case
through the forests, the floor will hold a great deal of water, which will not run
away or pour out in rivers and creeks for days and weeks, as it would in the case of
a field of land. That I know to be a ftict from a life experience. I am sure,
however, that we are indebted to Mr. Fei-now for bi'inging it to our
knowledge that the German Government have just collected the roBults of
a series of experiments on the operation of foi-ests with a view to finding how
much the forest retards the washing of the land and how mucli the
forest assists in producing rain. They have taken a very large portion of forests
and have had it carefully examined by military engineers over a period of years.
The result is, that they think that it has always had as much rain as the cleared
districts, not far oft", in the same couniry. Mr. Fernow sent this statement to the
New York Garden and Forest, a very valuable publication, and it appeared there
last month. I shall get it foi- my next report, and we shall all have an opportunity
of seeing it. Now, 1 would like to suy one or two words on this diftering of the
amount of rainfall. The question as to whether forests increase or do not increase
the rainfall is not so much regarded by those who remember this country as it was
long ago. It is not the quantity of rain. Sometimes we find we get a great deal
too much rain — i-ain that washes away things. What we want is the old-fashioned
genial showers which we used to have coming jdong in Mny and the early part of
June, when we needed them, and we used to find, that so long as we kept a
considerable quantity of bush we got plenty of rain, while now in some districts
we do not get enough. It is more a question of tlie distribution of moisture than
the amount of it. Now, as my subject to-day is not so much concerning forests as
wind breaks, I would like to say a few words on that matter. I have, in the course
of my examination of this subject, got into communication with a great many
people throughout the country, who have sent me word as to what they have lound
is actually the case in their respective district^ from the result of wind breaks or of
any old forest lines that may still exist. I should like, if it will not weary you too
much, to give you an idea of these communications.

The following statements give the ettect of wind-breaks where they have been
established throughout Ontario. They are from the township clerks of the various
localities, gentlemen who are well informed of the progress of the adjacent country : —

Dawn. — When fall wheat is protected by the woods around, the frost does not
seem to hurt it nearly »o much as when out in an open field. Both fruit and crops
thrive better where thus protected.

Esquesing.- I have m^'self observed the beneficial etfects of planting trees closely
for shelter as a protection to fruit and grain crops.

Burford. — Wind-breaks arc very beneficial, but when grown take about all the
substance from the soil from two rods on each side. Nevertheless, they are grand
for sheltering fall wheat and clover.

Blandford. — Have observed great benefit from such shelter. Ilave seen fine
crops of fall wheat and clover sheltered by belts of timber ^rom the west and north
winds, while in more exposed situations such crops were comparative lailures ; al-so
consider such shelter of great bepefit to orchards; the trees seem to thrive better
when so sheltered, and the more tender varieties can often be successfully grown.

Mersea. Where fields and orchards are sheltered, especially from the east winds,
the eft'ect is very marked. Where— as here— the snow fall is light and generally of
blight duration, fields protected by the forests produce much the best crops of wheat,
and the orchard derives a like benefit.

East Ftamboro\ — The effecis of trees planted for wind-break, or shelters for
fields, especially west winds in spring, so far as I have observed, have proved bene-
ficial to crops in general.

North Easthope. — The experiment of wind-breaks here has been good, especially
in the matter of orchards.

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Minto. — Fruit, grass and crops thrive the better for wind-breaks,

Dorchester. — Have observed for a number of years that fruit and full wheat do
better where they arc sheltered by trees,

Moore. — The benefits resulting from belts or wind-breaks may be seen any
season, almost, in the improved condition of winter wheat, compared with fields in
exposed situations where the cold, biting winds have unrestrained sweep. Fruit
trees also thrive and bear better, grass starts sooner in the spring, and stock have
shelter in cold weather and shade from a scorching summer sun,

Dummer. — A natural growth of cedai", pine, elm, etc., has grown up along some
of the fences close enough for a wind-break. Fall wheat and fruit trees are
decidedly benefited by such shelter, I cannot say with regard to spring crops.

Egremont. — Had a field of wheat this summer in which a few maples were
saved when cleared ; these have grown bushy and very beautiful, I noticed that
the wheat was heavier and plumper around these trees than anywhere else in the
fields,

Glanford. — ^Where wind-breaks have been grown the orchards and crops
sheltered by them have been greatly benefited.

Grosfield. — Last year wherever wheat was sheltered from the west winds it
was good; where not sheltered it was all destroyed,

Crowland. — There is no manner of doubt that wind-breaks are of decided
advantage, inasmuch as it prevents the fields from being denuded of the snow, which
serves as a covering for all that may be committed to mother earth, the good effects
of which I have demonstration of every year.

Oxford. — Wheat, and all fall plantings, peach and other trees, are very much
benefited thereby. Such wind-breaks are becoming more in use yearly.

Tilbury East. — ^Planting here is only in its infancy, but it is observed that the
fields farthest from the bash fare badly in the winter and spring under fall wheat.
Indeed, it is very questionable if fall wheat could be raised profitably in this section,
now the whole country is denuded of forest, or threatened to be,

Rochester. — No wind-breaks planted, but bush on the north and west of growing
crop has a markedly good effect.

Euphrasia. — Wind-breaks eventually become both ornamental and useful ; grass
and crops do not so much require wind-breaks as fruit does. In many fruit-growing
sections the apples especially are blown off by wind before fully matured, for want
of proper wind-breaks. This I look upon as a great evil, as Ontario can raise fruits
well, and there will be a great demand in the Noi-th-West as well as in England.

Harvey. — Where tiie crops are sheltered by the forests it preserves them, by
keeping the snow on later in the spring. Out in the clearance the wind drives all
the snow off, leaving them bare, only around the fences, and common sense will show
the necessity of wind-breaks and shelter even, for the cattle, as well as orchards and
grain crops.

Stamford. — ^Wind-breaks are always beneficial, particularly to the apple crop.
Close to trees that are growing in the line fences, however, grass and crops do not
thrive,

Canonto. — The effect of some wind-breaks planted here can be seen by the merest
tyro, so much so that people are beginning either to plant (jr leave saplings as they
clear their land.

Colchester. — Where the natural forest has protected farms on the west and north
I have always noticed that the crops have always looked and been better than thers
in the same locality not so protected,

JVorth Gwillimbury. — A precisely similar statement.

South Gwillimbury. — Have observed, and heard also from those owning wind-
breaks, that they are a wonderful help to growing crops as well as orchai-ds,

Canftoro',— Have one field sheltered on three sides by bush. On that field I am
sure of a crop of fall wheat, while on land not sheltered by trees the crop is sure to
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Osprey. — Have an established wind-break round my oichard, and the efVoct is
that the trees are sheltered from the severe winds in winter and spring, and that
the apples are not so liable to be shaken from the tieos in full; but the break is ot
poplar, which must soon lie cat dov. as they have completely tilled the orchard
with a network of roots and young shoots. (As repeatedly stated elsewhere, the
poplar is p, very valuable tree for many reasons ; but irroat care must be taken to put
it only where its propensity to throw out suckers will do no harm.)

N. Cayuga. — Know one or two wind-breaks that have grown up naturally, and
have observed that the tields were sheltered thereby to a <listance of twenty rods
and upwards, and both grain and grass, where so sheltered, have thi-iven better.
Have not had an opportunity of observing the ettect upon fruit.

Willoughby. — Few have planted wind-breaks, but where they have I have no
doubt that the result is better, especially on fall wheat, clover, and fruit ot all kinds.

Laurel. — Know one grove along the north side of a lot, and near this grove the
vegetation is much more rapid in the spring and much more early. Also, the crops
attain there a much greater growth. The most useful trees for this purpose are the
balsam, spruce, pine, cedar and hemlock. I have one of balsam, sjiriice and tamarac
around the north and west sides of my orchard, which have been planted about
twenty years ; and these break the wind so that the stoims in the autumn do not
shake the fruit from my trees as from those of my neighbours.

Bruce. — No wind-breaks planted out that I am aware of, but wherevei* the crops
are sheltered by what remains of the original forest the prevailing opinion is that
they thrive better. This refers more particularly to winter wheat.

Down. — Many farmers have planted trees, especially along the western side of
their farms, and the change has been very noticeable in the sheltering and protection
of fall wheat.

Amabel. — It is well known to every fai-mer here that land sheltered in the
winter season is more favourable and surer for fall wheat than unsheltered.

Eramosa. — There are several who have established wind-bi-eaks, though the
trees are not planted very closely, and in every instance under my observation the
etfect is beneficial, to grain crops especially, in sheltering from pai-ching winds and
encouraging more heavy dews. '(This is a point not to be lost sight of If you pass
by a row of pines in a heavy mist, you will find it almost raining under the pines,
almost dry elsewhere).

Caradoc. — A few have planted pine, and a good number have pl&ntcd willow for
this purpose. The past winter, to u greater extent than formerly, proved the utility
of forests in shielding croj)s, as the wheat in sheltered situations invariably proved
superior.

Adolphustoicn. — Where protected bj- wind-breaks, fruit, grass, and crops in
general most assuredly thrive better.

Colchester. — There are no persons in this locality who have planted trees for
wind-breaks, but many have left strips or belts of timber along the west boundaries
of their farms; and wherever this has been done it has proved a great benefit,
especially for fall whejit. In the in.stances where timber has been so preserved the
owners would not have it destroyed on any account, which is a good evidence that it
is of advantage.

Oneida.— There is a large growth of j)oplar trees gi-owing on the line between
myself and my neighbours on the west side, and I can now raise good wheat on an
exposed knoll where I could raise very little before.

Mr. MiLLiKEN considers that what is needed is lines of trees across the countiy.
He has on his lawn some fine specimens of Norway and native spruce. Ho has
found the shelter of the woods is very valuable for fall wheat, and, in fact, beneficial
to crops generally. Is planting a line of Norway spruce and cedar along the whole
north of his farm, having it in great part finished now. Planted at 5 feet from
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room. Has about twice too many trees in it, which will give him every second tree
to take up and replant. Beliovos that if a number of fiu-mers would plant rows the
bonetit would be very great, lias a row of pine about 30 feet high. The benetit
from these would extend nearly aci-oss a square ten-acre tield. Finds the second
week in June a very good time to plant evergreens. A young spruce brought by
him from Now Brunswick (native there) seems of a better foliage than either the
Xorway or Canadian. Considers that shelter from the south-west side is also often
serviceable, especially in preserving apjilesfrom the strong fall winds which are apt
to blow them down.

Mr. James has two fields protected on the north and east by a second growth of
young pines, about 35 or 40 feet high. These two fieUl have had excellent crops of
fall wheat twice in succession, while the wheat over all the rest of the farm hiu* not
been nearly so good, and this notwithstanding that these two fields have never been
drained, wlule tiio rest is well under-drained. Mr. James considers that, though
draining is undoubtedly good, yet shelter from trees is better for fall wheat. Even
right over the under-drains the wheat often failed, but succeeded, with the exception
of very small patches, where the bush gave shelter. Mi*. James has also a long stretch
of young pine wind-break in front of his farm, lie finds no injury whatever from
the pines near the crops. Would prefer spruce, as it spreads its bi'anches near the
ground, and thus gives more shelter than pine, which have their branches some-
height up.

^ Old Miller Homestead. — Here is one of the finest wind-breaks in Ontario, a
double row of pines planted thirly-five years ago, 40 feet high, and three rows of
spruce, all 10 feet apart (the pines to the outside), planted twenty-three years, and
now taller than the pine. This surrounds an orchard of about two acres. The
clover in the orchard is a heavy crop and grows as thick close up to the ti-ees as
elsewhere. The fields to the north imd west show no injury whatever from shade,
the grass growing as well close up. Mr. Miller, a son of the late proprietor, says :
It is of the greatest possible service to the farm. Mr. Millei- has planted wind-breaks
at his own farm a mile oif, and would not be without them for thousands of dollars.
Would pay that ditterence if buying a farm. AVhen he went on his place could not
grow anything with ease for the wind, which blew his young lose trees to pieces.
Has it now well sheltered. Gave the statement that-all fall wheat near not sheltered
largely failed. Where sheltered on any side it was a good crop. Fields near here,
not sheltered, of ten acres, lost four out of the ten. Would not object to anyone
planting a wind-break south of his land ; considers the benetit of checking the force
of the wind much greater than the trifling loss by shade. Would be glad to see
farmers induced to plant long lines of trees ; if done generally, it would be the best
thing possible for the country.

Mr. Miller (a namesake) has planted « fine row of pines round his grounds
and found them of the greatest possible benefit. These were planted the first new
moon in June, which was considered the best time. Cedar he finals succeed well and
grows large making fine wind-breaks. He is planting a field, three acres, with maples
as a grove. He will fill some of the field, being low, Avith soft maple and cedar. Agri-
culture will be almost impossible here unless more trees are planted to check the
Avind. Believes fiom his experience that if much of the land were in trees the rest
would grow more than now, when it is mostly cleared. Has planted a great deal oa
his place.

There is another method of getting these young seedlings than growing them
in Ontario, as all know — that is, of importing them from foreign growers. As my
hearers may wish to know the facilities for doing this at the price charged, I will
furnish them with a copy of a letter from Mr. Miller, owner of the chief evergreen
wind-break mentioned in these pages as existing in Markham, as to the firms from
which he procured the seedlings, and the cost : —

" Markham, 3rd August, 1887.

" Dear Sir, — In reference to the eipruce, I imported the trees from Little &i
Ballantyne, Ca)-lisle, England. The}' were twice transplanted, and from twelve to-

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fifteen inches in height. I think they cost there ivhout fourteen shillings per tlious-
and, without packing. The l)Oxes ami packing cost moio than the phints. The
freight from Cai li.sle to Liverpool generally was moio than the treight from Liver-
pool to Toronto, I imported several times, and they cost me from 810 to 817 per
thousand, delivered in Toronto. I had an otfei* from the firm of Austen Si McAsten,
of (rlasgow, to deliver them in Toronto at twenty-eight shillings per thousand, but I
never got any from them. They weie willing, 1 nuiy say, to send a large (piantity,
if ordered; at a lower rate. Trees, I may remark, should not be loss than one foot in
height, and should have been twice transplanted. I think that is all the information
1 can give, having unfortunately destroyed all my old invoices and bills whicli relate
to this.

truly,

" JOHN MILLER."

' Your;

With reference to prices, trees can also be imported cheaply, perhaps not so low
as this, from Douglas & Co., Waukegan, III., an excellent place to obtain evergreen
trees. But as it is not well, if wo can avoid it, to send money out of the country, I
should advise all tree-needers, before importing, to consult with some Ontario nursery-
man as to the price they can be furnished at here, and having been informed on the
matter, take their own course as to purchasing at home or abroad. There are many
reliable Ontario nurserymen, though indeed, in opposition to either importing or
buying here, there are reasons why a farmer, if he can, had better grow his
own.

There aio many othei-s giving evidence over the whole of Canada to the same
effect, and I have personally verifieil most of the instances which I have given. I have
travelled thousands of miles in seeing these different places. One farmer would
show me his wind-braak and another his orchard. One thing I have noticed is that
nearly every young oicbard that has been planted of late years has been planted
round with spruce or pine, or something or another to serve as a wind-break,

I would like to say something concerning the Norway spruce. It is an excellent
tree for these wind-breaks. Of course you have all seen it. We must not go clipping it
so low or it will turn brown and soon be killed. If we want to have Norway spruce
we must leave them to grow to a good size, and they will then make a good wind
break. We must not, howevei*, expect it will last as long as some other trees.
Robert Douglas, of Waukegan, the greatest planter in the States, told me that he
came over to this country and examined nearly all the Norway spruces that he had
planted forty years before, A great number had been planted, but not one of them
was alive. Still, 1 do not know of anything else so good, except our own Canadian
white pine, which we find in a good many localities to do exceedingly well as a wind,
break. There is a very good instance of this to be seen in Markham, Our friend,
Prof. Saunders, has one up near London as well, and a very beautiful one it is. The
case I refer to is on the old Miller homestead, to which I have already referred, and
the particulars of which I have already given.

A Member. — Is not our native spruce of Ontario as good as any?

Mr, Phipps. — The Canadian spruce makes a very handsome wind-break, but I
cannot tell whether it will last as long, or whether, on the whole, it will answer as
well as the Norway spruce, I should like to say that I prefer the white variety
myself to the black, I was travelling through the prairie country in the United
States, and I found the universal custom was to plant something around the fences
to serve as a wind-break. But there they are planting osage orange, which, of
course, is not applicable to us here. Instead of making a hedge of it, they allow it
to grow up about 20 feet high, and although it is an ugly looking thing it
answers very well for the purpose for which it was intended. For our purposes in
Canada I should very much prefer that the farmers should be encouraged to plant
rows of timber on the north and west side of their farms — because winds do not
always cpme from the north. This timber would ultimately come in of use. Let
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them take a >trip 100 or .')0 yards wide. It luid hotter ho on good laud, which
should ho thoroughly jtloiigliod. Koep tlic woods well under, and in a short time
there will ho an I'XCoUont growth. It will not ho long hotbro valuahlo timhor will
he so scarce that tho«o strips will 3'iold a handsome return. 1 do not know of any-
thing hotter than wliite ash. It is a vor}' usofiil troo; an<l our tViond, .Mr. (Trover,
of Norwood, whom 1 see hoie, has succeoded very well in his j)art of the country. I
have seen it ti-ied in countries where it would iKtt do, hut hero it does well. In a
few 3'ears the trees will he fouml to he 6 inches thick, and hy planting close and
keeping them trimmed you will have trees without knots. If you plant trees in
the o])ening you will have hranehos low down, and every hranch moans a knot.
This is the style of wind-hi-oak 1 should like to see generally introduced. My
opinion alway«i has heen that it is host to take the trees of the forest. If you go
into the forest you will rind plenty' of white ash and hlack ash; hut if you pull them
up you tind the roots so l<»ng and straggling that you have jmor success. If, how-
ever, these trees ho twice transplanted you will giow a hunch of roots, and
then you can work with them satisfactorily. If an intluential body like yours would
only press it, I have heen ot tho opinion that the Government might bo induced to
come to the front and give .iway a large nnmho:- of these trees to persons who need
them and would take care of them. That is done at Washington. Everyone does
not get large numbers of trees, hut there is a general distribution. It is not neces-
sary that tho (fovornment should go into tho nursery business; but orders might
be given to nui-ser^'men to semi so many to this farmer and so many to that. That
could ho done in this country, and many would, no dcubt, apply for them. We
should then should see Ontario covered with littlogroves of trees, and wo would not be
under the impression, as we now are, that all tho valuahlo timber is going out of the
countr}'. We should see it rising on all sides, and avo should feel that there would
be plenty of timber for all economic purposes. I would like to say a word or two
on evergreen wind-hi-eaks, which are very good things in their way. I have seen
lists which were puhlisiied of the most valuable evergreens in use in tho United
States, but I would not myself care to plant those evergreens, which are generally
used there or are generally found to be profitable there. I would much rather look
around and see what trees have grown hei-e, and plant those; because I have known
so many people go to a great deal of trouble and expense in planting trees and find-
ing aftorwai'ds that they would not answer. What I have found to succeed hero is our
white pine, native spruce and Xorway spruce. When 1 was travelling last year
through England and Scotland I found that everybody was planting and protecting
his land by trees. In the centuries past there had been a vave of tree-cutting, but
now there is coming a wave of uoo-planting. The same feeling is coming to prevail
in Ontario, and we should do \yl .it wo can to make our country something like
what it formerly was. I wish 1 could describe to you what kind of countiy it was
when covered with a forest 3 cia .s ago — how much richer it was, how ]>loasant the
seasons, and how much easier we coxdd grow crops. You are a body having great
influence, and I trust you will do what you can to have farmers growing more
trees.

Mr. FramvLand. — Have you seen arbor vitte growing as a hedge ?

Mr. PiiiPPS. — There is an excellent sample near Toronto. It is nearly 20 feet
high and nearly 12 feet wide at tho base. It makes a beautiful dark green hedge.
Wherever cedar will grow there is nothing better. I would not, knowin- whal; I
do of cedar — although people say it will grow on high localities— risk it there; but
if I had anything to be grown near its natural habitat I would prefer cedar to
an3'thing else for a wind-break.

Prof. Saunders. — Mr. Phip])3 will find that very Hne hedges have been
grown on dry land. I have grown cedar hedges luxuriantl}^ on a dry, sandy soil,
and I think it would not be wise, although that is not its natuial habitat, that the
statement that it would only grow under those conditions should go to the public
unchallenged. There is not a very great deal of dift'erence in the growth of arbor
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tlmt T hnvi* hcoii very lino hedges of Norway Hpruco. Willi rospeil to .Mr. ^Iilloi'>
wiiul-hroak. ilid thoHc tieor> tluit you >a\v present any eviilonco of ilecav after
twenty-tiireo years of ijrowth ?

Mr. I'mi'i's. — .Vol the sli^'htest.

I'rof. S.vi;.Ni»KKS, — I have seen many trees of Norway spruce in Canaihi over
f(»rty years ohJ. It seems to me it is a very vahuihle tree, and wiiile Mr. Doui^hi^ mav
he rii;ht in the eases he U)okod at, I think we ean show him a u'ooii manv t?ees more
than lorty years old that are thrifty and growing well to-day. Many such trees can
be seen in the Hamilton district.

Mi\ I'liii'i's. — Hamilton is a very remarkahle place for growing spruce. That

is the place where a friend of mine grew thousands from seeds ami manaiied to >utcecd
Just as well with them as those ho purchased in the nursery. I have seen that tried
on farms neai- Toronto without success.

Mr. Ijicke. — There is a man living on the shores of Lake Huron, about 12 miles
iihovo Sarnia, and his Norway spruces arc over tifty years old.

Mr. FisK. — Wo have found that a borer atfects the top of it. and in some cases
keeps it back. Is that the case generally '.■'

4 Mr. Pnii'ps. — Some complaints havo leached me of Norway spruces beginning'
to decay at the toj), but 1 have not seen any. When we consider that life is not very
long, most of us who can get a tree that will serve for forty ^-ears in a wind-bre:i!c will
thiidc it wl'l do. Mr. Miller planted his spruces, and back of them lie ])lante' piMes,
which will last an immense time. With regard to cedar, I have seen people ' Mt a
number of young trees, and then trim them to make them look like little -;

but we should not trim or prune an evergreen, if wo can possibly help it. I lie
advantage of cedar is its peculiar power to grow on another soil ; it brings ii^ M..il
with it. If you plant it in loosely it spreads out and completely covers the ground,
and by keeping the sun out the soil gets to have a peculiar character suitable for the
growth of that tree. That is, it produces its own soil if you give it a fair chance.

Mr. Frankland. — Would berberry grow in the North-Wost ?

Mr. I'nipps. — I know some honey locusts out near Owen Sound, and during this
last year I asked Mr. Hartman how they were growing, and he said very well.
There is a sort of spike on thorn that keeps the cattle from pushing through. Twenty
years ago we had a great many locusts, but then there came a boi-er which killed
them nearly all otf.

Prof. Saundkrs. — W^hat varieties of the berberry are best adapted for hedge
plants in Manitoba and North- West ?

Mr. Craig. — Berberis amxirensis, an Asiatic vai-iety from the Amoor valley, suc-
ceeds well in Minnesota and Dakota as a hetlge plant. It is not as free a grower as
the vuhjaris, but has thick, firm leaves, remarkably free from the cluster-cup fungus,
bears trimming well and with age forms an impenetrable barrier. The fruit is borne
in very long racemes, bright scarlet, veiy attractive. Berberis thimbenji is also one
ot the best, but its hardiness has not been tested to any extent north of the 44th
parallel.

Mr. Frankland. — Will Berbrris vulgaris be hardy with us?

Mr. Craig. — It will probably bo nil right as to hardiness, but the foliage is often
veiy defective, owing to its being a favourite host of the cluster-cup form of the
wheat rust.

Mr. Frankland. — Is it true that red cedar propagates the apple-leaf rust ?

Mr. Craig. — It has been shown that there are several species of the so-called
" cedar apple," some of which communicate the disease to apple trees and others
which do not. At the Iowa Agricultural College, with which I was lately connected,
experiments with the species affecting the cedar there went to show that it was not
communicable to the apple, but was readily propagated on the wild crab.

Mr. Frankland. — Would you recommend honey locust for hedging in the
North-West?

Mr. Craig. — While I have seen very tine specimens of the honey locust in
Minnesota, perfectly hardy and growing thriftily, I should not expect it to succeed in
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Manitoba and the North-West when sultjected to hedi^e pruning. In regard to
windbreake, Mr. Chairman, I think it largely a matter of locality — first, whether we
shall have a wind-break, and second on what side of the orchard the wind-break shall
bo placed. In tne North-Western States experience is teaching orchardists to plant
their fruit trees on northern slopes, with shelter belts on the south and west side".
The northern exposui-e prevents the trees starting into leaf under the influence of
unusually warm weather in early spring to be nipped by late frosts. The south and
west protection mitigates the eft'ects of the drying winds so prevalent during May
and June in Manitoba and the North-West. Prof. Fernow's paper excellently illus-
trates this principle. Wind-breaks in any locality should not be crowded against
the oichard; they arc designed to protect, but are better at a reasonable distance.

This morning we had the subject of growing forest tiees discussed from the
home supply standpoint. I would like to add a few thoughts especially in the interest
of the commercial grower. The giound shouKl be deeply ploughed and well pulver-
ized to favour deep rooting. The seeds should be planted in i-ows 2 feet apart
covered with 2 or 3 inches of soil. To got rid of the first troublesome crop
of weeds go over the rows with steel rakes removing the upper crust. The young
seedling will then appear before the second growth of weeds. Good cultivation, is
all that is needed afterwards. Soft maple and elm seed should be planted as soon as
ripe, about 1st June, and will make a growth of from 6 to 18 inches the same season.
Box eldei', ash and other vai-ieties ripening their seed in autumn should be planted
in the fall. If kept in a dry condition over winter they do not germinate leadily.
This is especially true of ash. Millions of forest trees are annually raised in this
way by western growers and sold at rates ranging from SI to $5 per thousand.

Mr. Peters. — Our experience in New Brunswick is, that if we want to grow a
really good fruit, particularly when we are not certain as to whether the tree will
be sufficiently hardy for our climate, we select a northern and eastern slope — the
more northern the better. We hold the tree back as far as possible until the
weather gets sufficiently warm, so that when the bloom comes out it will not be
affected by the frost. Thus far we have never lequired any particular shelter in
either of the quarters of the orchard. Speaking of the maple and other trees for
planting, I am sure that if there is any section of this Dominion that wants a nice
lot of maple trees we could furnish them. We have no difficulty in propagating
trees if wo transplant in the spring. We invariably fail if we transplant in the fall.

Mr. William Thompson, London. — Mr Phipps has referred to the benefit of
wind-breaks in fruit-growing, and I would like to mention a curious matter to the
Convention. I have been greatly interested during the past summer in noticing
the effects of a row of maple shade trees, on the west side of a turnip field, on the
growing crop. The ♦rees were about 30 feet in height, and while the turnips in all
other parts of the fiold were ."rowing fairly well, a strip of from ?5 to 30 feet from,
the maples was entirely without crop. At one point, where half a dozen maples had
been killed from some cause, the roots were growing fairly well up to the fc./ce.
In another field a large ash tree, growing at the north end of the turnip patch, had
produced similar results over an area of 20 to 30 feet around it, the ground here
being entirely bace, although in the rest of the field tho crop was growing well,

Mr. E. W. Starr. — The children who pick for us know where to find the best
raspberries, namely, on the north side of the bush. That is a hint to those who have
been trying experiments with wind-breaks.

Piof Saunders. — Mr. Peters' experience is so different from some of the other
gentlemen that it shows the importance of *he remark that was made, I think by
Mr. Phipps. on Mr. Fernow's paper, that we have to consider this question from the
joint of locality and climate. In New Brunswick and Prince Edward Island they
lave abundance of water. The English thorn grows there remarkably well. They
lave nice hedges there, hedges that we could not produce in QuebQC or Ontario,
much less could they be grown in Manitoba and the Territories, where they would
not survive a winter. T suppose we have fourteen or fifteen diiferent climates
in this Dominion, from the Atlantic to the Pacific, and before we can give advice as
to any particular locality we should know what the climate is.

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Ml'. Phipps. — In Massachusetts they are raising pine forests from pine seed,
while, if we attempted it, it is doubtful if we could get a forest at all. The conditions
there must be ditferent, and they must be different with me compared with some of
the gentlemen who have spoken. I have grown many thousands of bushels of
turnips, and grown them so big that eight would fill a flour barrel, and we grow
them close to the bushes. Certainly, under other conditions shade might do harm.
We must not be too greedy in this matter in cutting the corners of the field. I do
not come here with the idea of instructing a learned body like yourselves, but I know
you are an influential body, and I want your co-operation in pushing the principles
of foi-pstry among the people.

Prof. Saunders. — feefore we go on to the next paper 1 would like to remark
that provision has been made to carry out, to a limited extent, the suggestion made
by Mr. Phipps, in regard to the distribution of trees in the North-West; and this
j'ear, as an experiment, 100,000 young trees will be sent to the western plains to
begin with. Circulars were sent out this morning to the newspapers of the North-
West, asking farmers who wish to have these trees to send in their names,
This is probably one of the best and most important departments of work which
could be undertaken here. It is done largely in Europe, where trees are not so much
needed as in this country. When once the distribution is begun I think the people
will look for it, and demand it in future in an increasing degree.

Mr. Phipps. — I am very glad to hear what Mr. Saunders has just said. To make
such a movement successful I do not know that it could be put in an^' better hands
than those of Prof. Saunders himself.

COMMITTKE ON LEGISLATION REPORT.

Mr. WooLVERTON. — I desire to present, at this stage, the report of the Committee
on Legislation. The Committee on Legislation beg to make the following recom-
mendations : —

(1). That all packages of fruit imported into Canada from the United States be
properly branded "American " at the Customs, and thus prevent such being exported
from this Dominion as Canadian fruit, in order that our fruit may in tifne establish
a reputation for itself; and further, that such fruit re-packed and branded as
Canadian fruit be confiscated ,

(a). That a copy of this recommendation be sent to the President and Secretary
of the Dairymen's Association, to see hov; far the principle would apply to dairy
products.

(2). That moi'c t.ccurate and complete statistics be gathered in relation to the
pj'oducts of rho garden and oi-chax-d, showing the quantity of every kind of fruit,
large and small, grown in each Province, and the quantity of the same exported or
imported inlo the Dominion.

(Signed) CANON FULTON,

Chairman.

The President. — You have heard the report of the Committee on Legislation.
What is your pleasure in regard to it?

His Honor Judge MosaRovE,Ottawa.— I would merely suggest to the committee
CO add a ponal clause f^r the oftence of repacking and re-branding American fruits as
Canadian. I would not simply confiscate them.

Mr. WooLVERTON. — This report is as far as the cc mmittee goes. C course it
is ope.i to any other gentleman t > si^g^'cst additions.

Judge MosoROVE. — Do yon ''ai ' that simple confiscation would ha/e the ett'ect
of preventing the wrong. I hardly think so.

Mr. Franuland. — 1 mr.e Iho adoption of the report.

Mr. Caston. — I seconi] the motion.

Judge MosQROVE.— There i> no doubt about it, although I have very little ex-
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pi-oviilo some severer punishment than simply coniiscalioi). 1. would, therefore,
respectfully suggest to this meeting that a punishment sbouui be attached to the
otfence of re-branding American apples as Canadian. Of course, re-branding fruit is
not an otl'ence of itself; it has to be created an olfence by legislation. If the otfence
is created and put upon the party who does the wrong, you do not punish the man
by simpU' confiscating the article, and you are affecting, not the man who is the
wrongdoer, but the man who owns the fruit. As a consequence, a man who does
the wrong goes unpunished. I would therefore move, seconded by Mr. Denton, that
the report just read be amended by adding to the first cbiiise the following: "That
it be further recommended that a penal clause be added to the proposed legislation
in addition to the confiscation theiein mentioned for the offence named."' This
matter is not going to be dealt with simply by us ; it is for the House of Commons
to deal with, and therefore they may put in a fine or impi-isonment according to the
heinousness of the oftence. I think this is a very serious matter in this country.
They may punish the oftence by imprisonment for one, three, four or six months, or
by a fine, as they may think proper, but if you simply deal with it by confiscation of
the goods you by no means touch the offender, as he goes scatheless. A great
many questions would arise in respect to the confiscation of goods. Who, may I
ask, is to have the power to say that they should be confiscated.

Mr. Frankland. — Would not the common law apply to the case ?

Judge MosGROVE. — The common law of England would certainly not touch it.
There is nothing wrong in it as it is. You have to create the oftence,

The amendment was put to the meeting and declared carried. The report, as
amended, was then adopted.

The Prksident. — We shall now have a paper on ' Trees and Plants for the
Cold Xorth," by 3[r. J. C. Chapais, of St. Denis, Kamouraska.

Mr. Chapais then read the following paper : —

Trees and Plants for the Cold North.

Mr. Chairman and Gentlemen, — Very probably T am, amongst all he persons
here assembled, one of those practising arboriculture in one of the most northern
regions of the Province of Quebec.

St. Denis, in Kamouraska County, where I live, is situated ninety miles below
Quebec, in 4T^ 30' of latitude.

I have thought that it would be of some interest for fruit-growers present to
know what ti*ees and plants our cevere climate allows us to cultivate with success.

Nobcxly will be surprised to find out how comparatively small is the number of
those trees and plants when I will tell you that our winters gratify us, sometimes,
with a temperature as low as 30° F., and are always very severe.

Our summers are short, and we have protracted autumns, without snow, very
cold, with alternation of freezing and thawing, causing more damage to vegetation
than the most severe cold of winter, which we experience only when the soil is
covei-etl by many feot of snow.

Now that 1 have given you an idea of the conditions under which we make our
horticultural and fruit-growing work, I will point out the dift'erent varieties of trees
and plants which we cultivaie with good results :

Apples.

Summer. — Duchess of Oldenburg, Peach, Red Astrachan, Summer Calville,
Tetofsky.

Fall. — Alexander, St. Lawrence.

Early Winter. — Fameuse, Hermine, Wealthy.

Late Winter.— Winter Calville.

Crab or Siberian. — Hyslop, Montreal Beauty, Transcendenf, VVh'UiJ'n-.

We are testing other comparatively new varieties, especuiWy ■■{' Russian apples.
Time only will tell what they are worth to us.

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Fears.

Clapp's Favourite. — SnnimtM" Doyenne.

Pear culture will never amount to anything more than an amateur culture in
our region. The two varieties here mentioned grow and give fruit since many years
in a few localities around our place. I am testing them now in my own oicliard.

Plums.

Blue. — Damson or Orleans, Imperial, Lombard.
Yellow. — Impei'ial Gage, Orleans. Eeine Claude.

A curious fact to mention is that all the plum-trees just named live much longer
in our latitude than they do in tht Montreal or more southern regions.

Cherries.

French cherry.

No other cherry can compare with this variety in our region, either for pro-
ductiveness or good quality of fruit. It is considered to be the same as Early
Richmond.

Gooseberries.

Green. — Downing.
Eed . — Hough ton .

Currants.

Black.— Black Naples.
Red. — Cherry.
While.— White Grape.

Rasjiberries.

Eed. — Antwerp.

White or yellow. — Orange. . n . ■

The last variety named is, as far as wo can judge, of French origin, for it is

cultivated in our gardens from time immemorial. It is the best and most ha-dy

known to us.

Grapes.

Black. — Champion, ITartfoid. ^

Grape cultuio is impossible below St. Roch des .Wilnaies. L Islet County,
next to our Kamouraska County, seventy miles below Quebec. Even from Quebec
to that place it cannot be anything but an amatenr culture. The vino withstands
well our winters, if mulched with earth, but it does not ripen its truit every year.

Straicberries.

Red.— Sharpless, Wilson's Albany.

White.— White Alpine. „ , , • u + •<

The Wliite Alpine strawberry is remontante, a French word, meaning that it
gives two crops in one summer. It is very hardy, withstands well our winters
without mulch of any kind, and is of a rich and extraordinary aromatic flavor.

Cranberries.

For wet land. — Bell.

For dry lantl.— Cherry. . i 4. „^.

To complete these notes, I will now give the names of a few ornamental trees
shrubs not belonging to our region, but well acclimatized.

Ornamental Trees.

Butternut (Inglans cinerea), Cut-leaved Weeping Birch (Betula pendula laciniata),
i-se Chestnut (.tJsculus hippo^^as wm), Kilmarnock Woepmg ^\ illow (Salix

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caprea pendula), Lorabardy Poplar (Populus jyyramidalis). Locust^tree (Mobinia
pseudo acacia), Ash-leaved Maple {Negunda fraxini folium), j^orwaj^ Spruce (Abies
excelsa), White Poplar (Populus alba).

Ornamental Shrubs.

American Ivy or Virginia Creeper (Ampelopsis quinquefolia), Berberry Bush
(Berberisvulgaris), Bladder Senna (Colutea arborescens), Dogwood (Cornus sanguinea),
Double-flowering Plum (Prunus triloba), Hone3'suckle or Woodbine (Lonicera
caprifolium), False Syringa (Philadelphus coronaria), Indian Currant (Symphoricarpus
vulgaris), Persian Lilac (Syringa Persica), Eose-coloured Woigelia (Diervilla
Rosea), Snowball ( Viburnum opulus sterilis), Snowberry (Sympharicaipus race-
mosus), Upright Honeysuckle (Lonicera tartaricum), White Lilac (Syringa vulgaris
alba).

In the vegetable garden we can grow almost all the ordinary plants under
cultivation in the Montreal and more northern regions of the Province without
starting them in ' 'C hot bed. But then we can get cabbages ready to eat only in
September, and cic' r, n. i-s only at the end of August. If we like to have them
earlier we have to so am in a hot bed, and so we have to do with cauliflowers,
celery and leeks.

The six following kinds of vegetables it is impossible to grow at all, because they
give only very poor products for want of heat and on account of the shortness of the
summer : Artichokes, Egg Plants, Melons, Peppers, Tomatoes, Watermelons.

In the flower garden thirty-one families of plants supply us with fifty-four
varieties of hardy perennial flowers, bearing without anj' protection, the inclemency
of our winters.

Foreigners living in Europe in the same latitude as we do must think that we
are not much favoured by nature, fi'om an horticultural point of view. In fact, if we
follow the isothermal line running through the regions undot the same climatic
conditions as we are, we I ave to go as far north as Stockholm, in Sweden, to 60° of
latitude, a difference of 12*^ 30' in our latitude.

Mr. Caston. — It is surprising to find how many varieties it is possible to grow
in 47" north latitude. TLey are certainly not tied down to a few varieties after all.

Mr. FiSK. — I was surprised to hear Mr. Chapais say that the Lombard plum
grows thei-e.

Mr. Chapais. — It grows quite well there.

Mr. Frankland. — About what size is the white strawberry?

Mr. Chapais. — It is rather small, but we hold to it because it bears heavily, and
it is such a hardy variety.

Mr. Caston. — Does it grow two crops in the season ?

Mr. Chapais. — Yes; it bears in the beginning of July, and we have berries all
the time on the bush until the beginning of September.

Mr. E. W. Starr. — What is the average snow fall in your section of the
country?

Mr. Chapais, — In the open country 5 feet ; in the woods 7 or 8 feet.

Mr. R. W. Starr. — 1 think that is a solution of the question. If we had that
protection in Nova Scotia we should be able to grow fruits that we cannot do now.

Mr. Caston. — Do the apple trees yield well theie?

Mr. Chapais. — Not so well, of course, as around Montreal, but then the fruit is
very good. Of course, I am not speaking fcom a commercial point of view. Our
aim is simply to supply local wants. I do not think we shall be able to make a
commercial affair of it, except, perhaps, for strawberries.

Mr. Caston. — Have you any other grape that will ripen as early as the
Champion?

Mr. Chapais. — The only work we have done with the grapes is in growing the
Champion and the Hartford.

Mr. FiSK. — In Kamouraska County they are mo:e than a month later than we
are in Montreal.

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Small Fruits and Their Commercial Value in Ontario.

The President. — The next paper will be on "Small Fruits and their Commer-
cial Value in Ontario," by Mr. A. M. Smith, of St. Catharines, President of the Onta-
rio Fi-uit Growers' Association. In his absence it will be read by 3Ir. Woolverton.

Mr. Smith's pajjer was as follows: —

Mr. Chairman and Gentlemen, — I have been asked by your committee to give
a paper on the commercial value of small fruits; but from want of any reliable
statistics oj- data, I can give nothing mo.-e than a rough estimate or calculation of
the money value of this class of fruits grown in the Dominion, and I have concluded
to givej-ou instead a few thoughts and suggestions in regard to their economic value
and the importance of paying more attention to this branch of horticulture. In
regard to the healthfulness and necessity' of those fruits I think there can be no ques-
tion. The former is endorsed by the best medical authority and the latter by the
best housekeepers and cooks in i he country, and coming in a season when there is
scarcely any other fresh fruits aakes them doubly valuable ; and it is a wonder tome
that the tables of Canadians, particularly those of our farmers, who have every facility
for growing them, are not better supplied. Of course, when the country was new and
farmers were busy cleat ing their land they had an excuse for not devoting their time
to their cn'tivation, particularly as there were in most places sufficient wild berries
to supply their wants — besides the newer ant! better sorts had not then been intro-
duced. But now that thj country is cleared up and the wild ones have disappeared,
and there are plenty- of choice kinds that can be cultivated with less trouble than '
would take to go to the bush to hunt up wild ones, how is it that nine-tenths of the
farmers of Canada do not grow enough small fruits foi" their own consumption, to say
nothing of growing them for market? I will venture the assertion that not one
farmer in fifty, take this Dominion through, has a bed of strawberj-ios on his farm,except
they may bo wild ones ; and I will venture another assertion, that there is not one
farmer in 500 but what would eat a good sized dish of stiawberries ami cream twice
a day for a month if they were set before them and their wivos, and families. Wouldn't
their mouths water for a dish once a week if they could get them ? And a very little
trouble and expense would supply them with these and other small fruits through-
out the season. But you ask these men, why don't you plant ben-ies, currants, &c.,
and they will tell you they can't atford to buy the plants — oi- they have not time to
tend them ; while at the t-ame time thej'' are spending more for plug tobacco and
poor whiskej' every year ti.an it would take to buy plants enough to plant an acre,
and they spend more time loafing around the bar-rooms and corner groceries than it
would take to cultivate them. But I am happy to say there is beginning to be an
improvement in this direction. Occasionally a farmer visits some of his friends in
town and stays to tea, and gets a taste of strawberries (townspeople, who have no-
land-you-know can aftbrd such luxuries), or visits a more progressive neighbour's gar-
den and sees them growing, and the nest year he plants a few, and thus it is spread-
ing a little, and I am in hopes that in a few years farmers will begin to eat fruit, as
well as those who have no land to grow it on.

One thing that makes the growing of small fruits of importance is that they
will succeed in many sections of our countrj' where larger fruits cannot be grown,
on account of the severity of the climatti; and with the present methods of canning,
evaporating and preserving fruit, there is scarcely a settler in any part of this wide
Dominion who could not grow enough of some kind of fruit to have a supply the
year round. There has been a great increase in the varieties of small fruits in this
countn' Avithin the last few j-ears. It is within the memory of most of us when all
the cultivated varieties of strawberries and raspberries could have been counted on
our fingers, and the curiants on our thumbs. But now they are numbered by
hundreds, and evcryyear bringsouta score of new ones, clamouring for public favour.
'Tis true but few of them are superior or equal to many of the oM varieties, and
many soon drop out of the list and are lost sight of; but some come to stay, and are
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are being made. Some of o\u' skilled hybridists such as the late Charles Arnold,
P. C. Dempsey, Prof. Saunders, and others, have demonstrated what can be done in
hj'bridizing and producing new and valuable fruits, and I believe that within ten
years we shall see gieater results in this direction than we have in the past, and I
believe we have a great help in the testing and introducing of new fruits in your
Experimental Farm. Heretofore thib business has all been in the hands of inter-
ested parties Avho had the plants to dispose of, and in many cases they have cared
more for filling their own pockets than tor the success and and value of the fruit, or
the interest of the purchaser, and the consequence has been that much time and
money has been expended in growing what has proved to be worthless. But now
we can be assured that the tests made under the supervision of Prof. Saunders and
the values placed upon them for this and similar climatos can be relied upon, Jind I
only regret that we have not a branch or a similar station in Western Ontario, whore
we could have tender varieties of fruit, such as peaches, pears, plums, grapes, as
well as small fruits that cannot be grown here on account of the severity of the
climate, tested and disseminated, and I sincerely hope and trust that our rulers will
soon see the importance and necessity of this work, and grant us this boon.

In regard to the growing of small fruits for market, many of us know the time
when our towns and cities were chiefly supplied from the States, and farmers thought
that growing ■^rr-all fruits for market was small business. I well remember that when
I planted my tirst acre of strawberries at Grimsby less than thirty years ago that
my neighbours thought that 1 was crazy or a fool. But when they saw I real-
ized more fror . lUat ' ne acre than they did from ten acres of wheat they thought I
was not so foolish aftor all, and to-day there are scores of them in just such foolish
business, and now our markets are well supplied Avith all kinds of small fruits of our
own growing, and during the past year Ave have exported over 875,000 Avorth to our
neighbours ; and from Avhat information I have b en able to gather I am sure that the
A'alue of the amount consumed in the country would not be much less than §1,000,-
000 annually. But this amount ought to be double what it is, and I am satisfied it
Avill be in a short time. Settlers in Manitoba and the North-West are beginning to
find that these are nearly the only fruits they can grow successfully, and they are
planting largely, and the Ontario Government has been sending out missionaries
among the farmers at their A'arious institute meetings in different parts of the
Province, and many of them have been converted, and are actually going to plant out
berries enough for their own use, and perhaps some to sell, and there are indications of a
general revival in this branch of horticulture ; and it becomes those who are leaders
in fruit groAving to i-ender all the assistance they can, to give information in regard
to best varieties to plant, to encourage the growing and testing of ncAV varieties and
their dissemination, to give instructions in regard to culti\-ation, &c. I have said
nothing about A-arieties or the profits of groAAing small fruits, taking it for granted
that those assembled here know us much as I do about these things. My object is
to stii- up more interest in them and show their value and importance to the country
at large, and teach the people not to '-despise the day of small things," particularly of
small fruits, ami if I can do this, even in a small Avay, my object has been accom-
plished.

Mr. Peters. — Will 3'ou give us some idea of the yield of straAvbcrries per acre ;
What is a fair yield ?

Mr. WooLvERTON. — The average yield in southern Ontario Avould be, perhaps,
2,000 quarts per acre, although in special instances, with careful culture; Ave haA-e
as high as 4,000 and 5,000 quarts, and I have known even as high as 8,000
quarts obtained. But that is only under special circumstances, on soil specially
adapted and after excellent care and cultivation. It is only in rare instances that
they can succeed in getting such results.

Mr. Peters. — Then, as to your mode of cultivation ?

Mr. WooLVERTON. — The mode of cultivation with us is generally in matted roAvs,
which Ave keep rather nanow. We give them as much manure as we can possibly
afford. That is about the rule. Of course, the ground should be Avell worked up "a
year previous to the straAvberries being put in.

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Mr. Peters. — How long do you keep them in the same crop ?

Mr. Wool VERTON. — We give them about two crops ; then the land is planted with
something else.

Mr. Starr. — What is an average crop of raspbenies ?

Mr. WooLVERTON. — I do not do much with rasplierries. but T tliiiik I would get
full}' as many raspberries from an acre (jf land as strawberries

Mr. Starr.— More than 2,000 quarts ?

3Ir. WooLVERTON. — Yes ; perhaps 3,000.

3[r. Peters. — What Avill they average per quart ?

Mr. WooLVERTON. — They vary in ditlerent seasons. One season I averaged 10
cents for the whole crop, another season 8 cents, and I have averaged as low as (j
cents.

Mr. Peters. — In making a new plantation, what distance do you put them apart?

Mr. WooLVERTON. — We plant our strawberries 1 foot apart in the rows, and
the roAVS about 3 feet apart. We take two crops of fruit off, as a rule, and then
plough it.

Mr. Peters. — You plant in the spring?

Mr. WooLVERTON. — We plant as early in the spring as convenient.

Mr. Peters. — Do you call that one crop ?

Ml-, WooLVERTON. — Xo ; there is no crop that year. The first season we allow
them to run until we have a sutficient number of plants ready for the plantation for
the next two years.

Mr. Peters. — What is the nature of your land ?

Ml'. WooLVERTON. — Sandy loam.

Mr. Caston. — What is j "ur best raspberry ?

Mr. WooLVERTON. — The bbst market raspberry in the Niagara peninsula is tiie
Cuthbert.

Mr Caston. — I think the Turner is hardier than the Cuthbert.

Mr. Franklani). — The Cuthbert is rather tender.

Mr. WooLVERTON. — The Turner is a verj- excellent raspberry for home use, but
is not quite so firm as the Cuthbert.

Mr. Peters. — How do you protect strawberries in the winter time ?

Mr. WooLVERTON. — We cover them with a strawey manure.

Mr. Peters. — Did you ever attempt to put rail fences, running east and west.
3 rods apart ?

Mr. WooLVERTON. — No.

Mr. Peters. — Do you have snow all winter?

Mr. WooLVERTON. — No.

Mr. Peters. — We adopt that plan in New Brunswick.

Mr. WooLVERTON. — It collects the snow, I believe.

Mr. Peters. — Yes.

Mr. WooLVERTON. — It would not do with rs. We have had no snow at all this
winter.

Mr, Caston. — Have you tried mulching the gooseberries and currants ?

Mr. W^ooL VERTON.— I havo never tried it. They are not affected by the wint'^r
with us at all.

Mr. Caston.— Mulching with top manure, or anything of that description, is

supposed to help the crop.

Mr. WooLVERTON. — I find coal ashes useful in that way.

Mr. Caston— They are good to mix with the soil, but as a top dressing for the
strawberry nothing is equal to good barnyard manure well rotted.

Judge MosdRovE.- -How do you leave your rows ?

Mr. WooLVERTON. — My plan is now to harrow them down more than I did at one
time. Formerly I left them as wide as possible, by having a wide row and a narrow
walk. Now my plan is to keep the rows rather narrow— say, down to about 10
inches.

Mr. Peters,— Yuu do not allow the plants to get thick in the row ?

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Mr. Wool VERTON — No. If you allow them to get wide, those in the centre obtain
no benefit of cultivation, [t is best to keep cutting the runners oif after you have
as many plants as you wish.

Judge MosGRovE. — In regard to the cultivation of the strawberry, I have been
adopting a different course at my place. Lately I have been planting the rows four
feet apart and then I'olling the rows over, not ploughing up. On one side of the
row I have dug a trench and put manure in, letting the runners go over it. so that
they take root there next year and then I cut out the old one. The great difficult}-
I find in caiTying out that system is, that my men will not cut out the old, worn-out
plants. This year I have adopted rather a different course. I have put pins down
where they have cut them out, so that 1 can trace in the future by means of these
pins, what has been done, and can compel the men to cut out the old ones. I was
happy to hoar Mr. Peters speak about the fences which they use in New Brunswick.
Among my own crops I have 2,400 yards of fences running all through the eight
acres.

Mr. Wool- VERTON, — I see that Mr. Smith has just entered the room. He left in
ray hand a resolution which grows out of the paper which has just been read, and
perhaps it would be wise to introduce it at this point.

The President. — The following motion has been presented for consideration.
Moved by A. M. Smith, seconded by L. Woolverton : —

" That whereas there has been and is a groat loss to the Canadian farmers and
fi'uit-gi'owers in the introduction of new fruits by parties interested in the sale of
trees and plants, which, upon being tested, have been found to be worthless, and thus
a great amount of time and monej' have been wasted ; bo it therefore resolved,
that while we believe the Government, through their Experimental Farms, are doing
all thej' can in the way of testing fruits for their adaptation to this and similar
climates, still we realize that the tests made here, owing to the severity of the climate,
do not meet the wants of the great fruit-producing portions of our country. We
therefore regard it as very essential to the welfare of this industry and the country
at large that a branch experimental station should be established somewhere in
southern Ontario, where not only tende • varieties of fruits could be tested, but also
grains and vegetables which cannot be^)roduced in more rigorous climates."

Mr. A. M. Smith. — I do not know that it is necessary to take up much time in
explaining that motion. I think you can all understand for yourselves that Ottawa,
where the Expei-imental Farm is located, is not the situation where they can grow
many of our choice varieties of fruits. We deem it very necessary that those
varieties which are constantly coming before the public should be tested in some
way before they are sent out, before parties invest their money in them. A great
many of us know to ou:* sorrow that varieties which have been offered to us, and
recommended very highly by men in high positions in the horticultural world, when
we come to grow them in our locality they have turned out to be worthless; the
large price we paid for them and the time we have expended is all lost. We all
know the pains that is being taken at the Expei-imental Station, at the expense of the
Government, to test the different varieties of fruit and, in fact, everything in the
agricultural line, and we cati aH see that this climate here is not adapted and
never can be adapted for testing a great many varieties, not only of fruit but of
grain and vegetables. Hence the necessity for establishing a branch Expei'imental
Farm. This thing is being done in the States of the neighbouring Union to a large
extent. I would like to hear an expression of opinion on this point.

Judge MosQROVE. — Would not the Guelph Expei imental Farm station do the
experimenting that you require ?

Mr. Smith. — I am sorry to say that the Guelph Farm is very little, if any, better
situated for testing the varieties of fruit to which I refer than the farm here at
Ottawa. A few varieties of apples may stand the climate of Guelph, but peaches
ai-e altogether out of the question. Many varieties ot apples, pears, plums, grapes,
cherries, and other small fruits will not succeed there at all.

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those

Judge MosoRovE.— Can you grow grapes in the Xijigara district which wo
cannot grow here?

Mr. Smith. — We can, and without protection. I have no doubt you can grow a
great many varieties of grapes here l»y hiying them down in the winter, but where
we grow giapes by the tifty acre lots, as tb'^y do in the Niagara district, that would
be an almost endless job.

Mr. Beall. — We have a gi-eat many varieties growing in the Lindsay district,
but of course they succeed a great deal better when they are coverod up in winter.

Mr. Allan. — I think there is a great necessity for something being done on the
lines suggested by the resolution. Fruit gr()w*^er8 generally know what it is to
experiment themselves. We know how costlj' it is ; we know how long it takes to
gain the knowledge required, and in gaining that knowledge we lo^e a good deal of
time and money. By the establishment of an experimental station of this descrip-
tion somewhere in southern Ontario it would cover the requirements of a very large
portion of the country. A test made there would not only be a test for southern
Ontario, but for other portions ot Ontario as well. It would be a test for western
Ontario, and even for grape vines for this district, probably as good a test as could
be made at the Ottawa farm. It would also apply for southern British Columbia,
and, in fact, would be a good and reliable test for many sections of the country. For
these sections that grow for commercial purposes theie would be more value got
out ot a branch farm in southern Ontario than can be obtained from the Experimental
Farm here, from the tests which have been made for producing thehaixlier fruits for
the colder regions. I am quite in accord with the spirit of the resolution.

Mr. Smith. — In regard to the farm at Guelph, there is a gentleman here, Piof.
Panton, who can tell us what success they had with the fruits there.

Prof. Panton. — I really could not tell you the success of our trial there, but I
published it in a former bulletin. We started out with some ninety-six varieties and
a good many of them would not ripen with us. I think we cut them down to about
twelve.

Mr. Smith. — The question is, do you regard the location at Guelph as a suitable
one for testing the tender varieties of fruits, such as are grown in southern Ontario.

Prof. Panton. — I think hardly so, for the tender fruits. With regard to the
small fruits, we have had fairly good success, but none with the grapes. Peaches
and pears we never attempt to grow. In regard to apples, this year we are setting
out in the orchard a large number, and probably we shall have some good results.

Mr. Woolverton. — This is a desirable matter to push, and perhaps the resolu-
tion should be referred to the Legislative Committee. 1 do not think there would
have to be any great expense incui-red in establishing such a branch station as has
been indicated. There is such a station in the State of Michigan. Mr. T. T. Lyons,
President of the Michigan Horticultural Society, sent me a circular some time ago
speaking of the success they had had, and I do not see why it is not a practical
thing that we should have one.

The resolution was unanimously adopted.

The President. — I think if we transmit the resolution to the Minister of Agri-
culture, wiUi the proper representations, it will suflSce. The next paper will be by
Mr. Thomas Bealf, of Lindsay, on " The Suitability of the Climate of Ontario for the
Pj opagation of Grapes for Wine."

Mr. Beall. — I should state that the title of the paper as just announced, and
which appears on the programme, is not as I gave it in. Owing to severe illness in
my family I had not the time to get up all the particulars that I would like to have
obtained on the subject, and, with the permission of the Convention, I will change
the title of the paper to read :

The Growing op Grapes for Wine in Ontario.

Grape culture in this Province is capable of expansion to almost an unlimited
extent. We have thousands, perhaps hundreds of thousands, of actes of land where

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the soil, the elevation and the climate is as well suited to the sntcessful prosecution
of this industry as in the jj^reater portion of the wine districts of Pii^irope.

It may therefore be reasonably asked : Why grape-growing is not more exten-
sively pursued in this Province ?

rf this question were asked of the grape-growers in Ontario, individually, each
person would probabl}' give a ditt'eivnt answer.

A gentleman in the County of Kssex, one of several to whom application was
ma<le for intbrmation icspecting the subject of this paper, gave tive reasons why
there was not a greater acreage of vineyard in that county: ''(1) Want of enter-
prise; (2) Ignorance of the culture of the grape; (3) A feeling that the business
Avil I be overdone; (4) Want of confidence in the wine trade; (5) Discouragement
from poor returns from the commission sharks of Toronto and Montreal." The 1st,
2nd and 5th reasons are well known. The 3rd and 4th call for a few words of
comment.

The 3rd reason, "A feeling that the business will be overdone," is a probabilitj-
which ever^' intelligent grape-grower should carefully consider ; for, if immediate
provision for the manufacture of Canadian wine be not at once made on a larger
scale than at present, and a much greatei- amount of commercial tact, capital and
scientific knowledge brought into requisition, the production of grapes is already
overdone — in proof of which I need only point to the fact that many tons of grapes
were sold in Hamilton in 1888 at from 1 ct. to Ih cts. per pound. But as long as
grapes, such as Concord or Worden, can be readily disposed of at from 2 to 2i cts.
per pound (and wine-makers can well alford to purchase at that price) graj^e culture
will be one of the most profitable industries in this country. For, at that price a
net protit of S50 or §60 per acre can be realized ; and. as good, sound wine can be
made for much less than 50 cts. per gallon with grapes at that price, wine-making
should be at least as profitable as grape-growing. Concord grapes can be profitably
produced, on a large scale, at one-half the price quoted.

My friend's 4th reason, " Want of confidence in the wine trade," should be
enquired into.

A good deal of the Canadian wine in the market is of fair quality. Occasionally
a sample of good qualitj' is met with, but its general character is so uncertain that
it is impossible to duplicate the sample from another yeai^'s vintage from the same
maker. No two makers pretend to make wine alike in character, and the same
maker does not produce a similar wine two years in succession. Hence, the reason
Avhy Canadian wine has no fixed commercial value. The Pellee Island wine is sold
from CO cents to 32 per gallon, when all might be worth the highest price — per-
haps more. It is no wonder, therefore, that " no contidence can be placed in the
wine trade."

At the last winter meeting of the Ontario Fruit Growers' Association, at Wind-
sor, the members had an opportunity — through the kindness of some of the leading
wine-makers of that locality — of sampling several varieties of their wines. Some
samples were sweet and insipid enough to please the most intolerant of fpro-
hibitionists; others were of fairly good quality. A few were really very fine wines.
Two samples especially, which were presented by Mr. Ernest Girardot, were verj-
superior wines — so good, in fact, that if a maker succeeded in making a wine of
that identical character continuously, it would, as soon as it became known, bring a
higher price than the best light European wine now in the market; which goes flir
to prove what has often been stated by experts, that the most of our grapes contain
an abundance of all the necessary elements for producing a first-class wine — the
sugar, the acids, the tannin, and the etheric or fragrant oils.

The expense of producing the best wine is but little, if anything, greater than
for the production of the poorest. The principal ditt'erence in the quality is in the
amount of correct scientific skill brought to bear in its production.

The limit of profitable grape culture for dessert purposes has now been reached,
unless new markets can be opened for the surplus. Manitoba and the North-West
Territories is the hope of many; but their hopes will be in vain, until just and equit-

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able freight rates can bo obtained from our pul)lic carriers. At the ]irosent time
the rates for certain gootls. fruit esjtecially, is exorbitant, evon wiien obtained at
privileged points; but at other phices, wlu'i'e there are no comjioting lines, the rates
charged for the same class of goods is positively prohibitory. I will mention one
case. The express rate last summer on a certain kind of fruit from Toronto to
rorta;4;e la Prairie, and also from Grimslty to J'orlage la I ''ie, was 80.-") per 1()(»
lbs.; while from Lindsay, even after the agent had kindly obtained a sjiooially
reduced rate, it was §(1.75 per 100 lbs.

The hope of the grape-grower is therefore in the establishment of wine-making
at central j)oints on a lai-ge scale, so that the whole ciop may be sold at once in
bulk for cash. If this were done grape culture would advance in extent unecjualled
by any other branch of horticulture, and the thousands upon thousands of acres of
land unexcelled for grape culture in the world, which are to-day nearly worthless,
would in a few years become more valuable than the best wheat lands in the Province
are at present.

One of the largest grape-growers for dessert pui-poses in Ontario was told a
year or two ago that a company was about to be established in his locality for the
making of wine on a large scale ; and in order to secure a sufticiency of fruit the
compan}' would require a number of persons in that locality to contract with the
company to plant, to cultivate and to sell to the company all the fruit for twenty
years, the company binding itself to ])urchase the whole crop in bulk for the
twenty years at a price not less than 1 cent, per pound, and was then asked what lie
would do in the matter. His answer was : " if 1 can be assured of the solvency of the
company, and of its ability to fulfil its part of the contract, I will plant 100 acres of
grapes next spring on the conditions mentioned,' I quote this as a proof of what
grapes can be grown for, and also to show what this expert as well as huudieds of
other persons, would gladly do.

Here, then, is an opportunity for the profitable investment of capital such as does
not often occur. The raw material can be obtained in abundance and at a price as l<iw
as can be desired. The cost of manufacturing is small in proportion to the capital
invested, and the market for the manufactured article unlimited, and also with a
certainty that the profits will be all that any person could reasonably ask, with a
certainty of their continuance for generations to come.

Mr. Pettit. — I quite agree with the remarks made by 3Ir. Beall in his paper
in regard to llie large area of countrj' in Ontario suitable for gra]>e-growing. It
covers a far greater extent of country than many of us imagine. In replies which I
have received when asking for information in order to prepare a paper on grape
growing in southern Ontario, I was I'cally surprised to find the large tracts of
country where the climate and soil are suitable for this industry, and I lielieve that the
wine-growing industr}' of Ontai'io has a great future before it, I believe that when
prejudice can be driven from the minds of our people that the thousands of dollars
which is now paid annually' to foreign ' "'itries for their wines will be kept within
the Dominion. There have been s^ 1,1 -ny new and early varieties, and hardy
varieties, that the territory for grape-growing is almost unlimited.

Mr, Kew, — I do not pretend to be a grape grower, but I cannot help agreeing
with remarks made as regards the profits which may be dei-ived from grape-growing.
Mr. Beall made a statement that a cent a pound profit would suffice. I heard a
statement made at the convention at Grimsby a few years ago, and it was laughed
at by a great many, I thought at that time that we could not grow grapes for less
than 5 cents a pound. Since grapes have come down in price to an average
of 4 cents for Concords, taking the crop all through—sometimes they come down to
3 and 2 cents — surely there must be profit in the vineyards when so many are being
planted. In California, a country we hear so much about, and where the conditions
are so favourable to fruit ;r;rowing, they are still planting grapes and growing them.
They plant and grow them under a' different system than we do here, but they
cannot grow more to the acre than we do. They feel well satisfied and are making
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Knrely does tlieir price exceed tliroe-qimrtors of a cent per pound, nnd when we
consider tlie expense theie, the high price of land, and the ilitficiilty of getting tiio
hind into cultivation, as it is a very hard soil to work and requiring irrigation for
them to bo satisHod with that price should induce us to be content with a cent a
pound. The iri-igation canals in California are built by the State authorities, and the
growers are chaiged so much for irrigating theic land, according to its size. All
these e.xpenses considered, also the high wages for employees, which must be a tax
upon them, why should not we, the gnipe-growers ot Canr.da, be satisfied with a
cent a pound when we have all these advantages. I quite '^o with the remarks
ofMr.Heall.

Judge MosdBovK (Ottawa). — I suppose I am the most extensive grape-grower
in this part of the country, but when I hear gentlemen like Mr. Smith, coming from
a section of the country whore they have vineyards in fifty acre lots and larger, I
hardly teel justified in saying anything on the subject. My experience has l)een but
of n few years. I knew nothing about grape-growing until I happened to purchase
a small tract of lanil a few miles frojn Ottawa, and I went there to reside, but not
with the intention of planting a vineyard or anything of that kind. However, I
took a fancy to grapes, and have now under cultivation ten acres. I had had no
experience or knowledge whatever of grape culture, except from my reading, and,
at first I laboured under many great difficulties. For the first few years I employed
gardeners, paying them high wages, and got but little satisfaction in return. The
first year f planted 168 vines, of which 1 have but eight or ten living. The next
year I planted from 500 to (JOO, and of that quantity I have about 100 or 160 of the
original planting left. The following year 1 planted 720 vines, and of those 1 have
300 living. This, certainly, was not promising, but I was ''-^tei mined to succeed if
I could. I was told th»t grapes could not grow here, but ^ i resolved to continue,
and did continue, until I feel now that lean plant 100 gri nes and calculate on

seeing more than 90 of them grow and bear fruit, I have go^ about 100 varieties on
my premises. So far as my field goes, I have not more than a dozen varieties there,
but in my garden and around my walks I have a large number of varieties. In
regard to wine-making, I brought up from South Missouri a white wine giapo — the
" Elvira" — and it has succeeded beyond my expectations. It is an immense bearer,
and has increased much in size. As to the quality, I cannot recommend it as a table
grape, but it makes a nice white wine. I made about 600 gallons of wine last year
altogether. Of the red giapes, I likewise got the "Marion." Last year I took
extra care in picking the grapes, and had the green and injuied ones thrown out.
In this section of the country last year, 1889, was the worst for grapes we have had since
I have had anything to do with fruit. It was the only year in which the fruit did
not fully ripen with me, but the two wine grapes which 1 have mentioned always
ripen. The reason is, that they are the grandchildren of our common wild grape.
The " Elvira " is from seed of the " Taylor," which is one remove from the wild
grape. I cannot give the pedigree of the " Marion." Bush describes it as one of
•' Wendwortt's famous school of grapes." That is all he says of it in his work, [n
regard to the effect of properly examining the grapes before they are mashed down,
for several years the amount of acid ranged as high as 15 or 16 degrees, but last
year, by eliminating all inferior grapes — the green and injured ones — I reduced the
acid by ii degrees, which anyone who makes wine, and knows anything about wine-
making, knows that that is a great difference. It brought up the sugar to 75
degrees by Oschell's saccharometer, and I had to put in very little sugar,
Mr. McGill, tho assistant Dominion Analyst analysed the wine, and finds it
contains 1 1 degi ees of alcohol. I have some very nice wine, but I have never sold
any yet. I am satisfied, however, that we can make a fine wine here. As to selling
it, I cannot speak, but I am going to try it this season, as I have on hand all that
I made during the past six or seven years. I have made a nice sparkling wine,
which does very well for passing an evening with friends, making the hours short
and happy, driving dull care away. For the first attempt I have ever made in this
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this, that to make a good article in wine you have to go to the Riparian family, and
I believe that that is the conclusion of all wine-makers. I cannot think that grapes
can be raised as cheaply as some gentlemen say to be profitable. At any rate, it
cannot be done in this section of the country. As one remarkable thing in connt>u-
tion with grape culture here, which I would like t^) refer to : in all my reading, I
have not reacl that east of the Rocky Mountains any European grape has succeoued,
but I want to state that there are two grapes of the European family grown here to
perfections-one is the "ChasselasdeFontainebleu," and the ''Meuenier." Whether
any others would gi'ow here or not I do not know.

Mr. Smith. — Do you know anything about the grape called the " Northern
Light ? "

Judge MosoROVE. — Yes ; an old gentleman, Mr. Cameron, who is governor of
L'Orignal gaol, found a seedling growing alongside his kitchen door, and he pulled it
up and threw it away. It commenced to grow there, and the lato Judge Daniels told
Mr. Cameron to plant it and take care of it. He planted it again and it grew well.
It produces a very fine grape, and I believe will be a very great acquisition to the
grapes of this country. It ripens before the Concord a week or ten days. I have
heard that a certain gentleman had control of that grape vine, but last year I was
down there holding court when Mr. Cameron showed it to me, and he was very
desirous of selling the vine, so that it is in the market for anybody who wants to
purchase it.

Mr. R, W. Starr. — I know two vines growing in my neighbourhood in Nova
Scotia, which are certainly over fifty years old. One is the Black Custard and the
other the old Sweet Water. We also grow the Royal Muscatel with a good deal of
success. This latter variety does very well with us. The clusters are certainly as
fine as any of the American grapes, and decidedly better than the Canadian, so fiir as
I know them.

Mr. Bkall. — Can you speak of any European grapes grown in Niagara, Mr.Smith?

Mr. Smith. — I know of none, except at Niagura-on-the-Lake. A gentleman there,
of the name of HatVer, who is mayor of the town, has been successful in growing the
" Black Hamburg " I have never seen them growing, but have heard of them.

The President. — It will be necessary for us to hold an evening session for the
transaction of business, and I do not see how we can possibly hear the remaining
papers on the programme.

Mr. Pettit. — I will move that the balance of the papers be read by title, and the
papers be handed into the secretary for publication in the Official Report.

Judge MosQROVE seconded the motion.

The resolution was adopted.

The Convention then adjourned, to meet in the evening.

Friday Evening.

The Convention met at 8 p.m., the President stating that the proceedings would
be necessarily short, owing to a desire of many of the delegates to return to their
homes.

Mr. Allan. — The Committee on Transportation is prepared to report. It is
not a very formal report, and it is made up of resolutions. I will just merely read
the resolutions which form the report. They are as follows : —

1. The bills of lading in general use by the railroad and steamship companies
carrying fruit to England contain so many exceptions and conditions, inserted
entirely in the interest of these carrying companies, that they are practically worth-
less in protecting the interests of the shippers of fruit. We therefore recommend
that a special committee be appointed to consider the matter, and invite corres-

Eondence from the various carrying companies, with a view to procuring the use of
ills of lading more equitable in their conditions.

2. We recommend and heartily endorse the suggestions of Mr. Sargeant, Traffic
Manager of the Grand Trunk Railway, to run regular fruit trains, similar to the

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cheese trains, to the seaboard, as being most desirable in the interests of the fruit-
growers and shippers ; also, that only ventilated cars, with improved springs and
buffers, be used on those trains.

3. That a regular committee on transportation be appointed to confer with the
proper authorities of the express companies and the Canadian Pacific Eailway to
make arrangements for shipping fruit to Manitoba and the Teri'itories, both trom
British Columbia and the Eastern Provinces, at lower rates than now prevail. That,
in the opinion of this Convention the rates are so high as to practically prohibit a
proper development of the frui : trade in those Provinces.

4. That if the proper facilities and accommodation in transit be provided for
fruits, the possibility of extending the trade in cur products with Europe is prac-
tically unlimited

That the over-production of some varietios of fruit, notably out-door grapes,
calls for more extended markets; and our Canadian markets being glutted, there is
nothing to induce the increase of grape culture.

At present the grape-consuming population of Britain is limited to those who
can aflford hot-houBe grapes at a hign price; and inasmuch as out-door grapes
are not grown in Britain, an opening is offered there for aL enormous trade.
The same would apply to our melons, which are much higher in flavour than the
hot-house melons of Britain, and hence would command higher prices in their
markets. Our tomatoes also are larger, better in flavour and brighter coloured
than those grown in Britain, and therefore, we are convinced, would take a lead in
their markets. In case of a short crop in Europe of plums, pears and peaches, the
accommodation asked would present an opportunity whereby we would be enabled
to take advantage of the British markets.

5. Tliat in the interest of growers and shippers of fruit from Canada to Europe
it is imperative, lor the greater development of the trade, in order that delicate
apples and othes fruits may be successfully placed upon the European markets, that
steamship companies provide clean and well ventilated compartments, equipped
with atmospheric blasts, for the preservation of fruit in transit; and we would
further recommend that greater care be exercised in the handling of fruit packages
in transhipment and d«liver3\

The President. — T think, perhaps, the best way to deal with these reports is to
consider the resolutions in detail, and then we can adopt them or not.

First resolution was carried.

Second resolution w;is carried.

Third resolution v.'as carried.

Fourth resolution was carried.

On the fifth resolution, with reference to ocean transport:

Mr. Stauratt. — Our great dlfticulty has been in the transportation of our fruit.
My locality is Annapolis, \vhich is a shipping port, and unless we get a steamer at
Annapolis we are compelled to transport our apples over the railway to the port of
Halifax, and we cannot have an oversight as to Handling them, and the consequence
is that they are put upon the English market in a bad condition. Now, if an
arrangement can be made with steamboat owners, or with some central authority,
by which we can get the stcameis fitted up as fruit-carrying steamers, I think such
an arrangement would be of almost incalculable benefit to the fruit-
growers of tl.e Lower Provinces as well as here. We know that putting
seven, or eight, or ten, or fourteen thousand barrels of apples in the hold of a ship,
that notwithstanding the ventilation, the consequence is they must be destroyed to
a greater or less-ir extent, and niy ow« observation h&s led me to the conclusion that
the shippprs of fruit to Great Britain have been grievously imposed upon and
injured, not only by the improper ventilation of the ship which carrieil the
fruit, but also by the careless manner in which their employees handle the barrels in
moving them round. Now, I have had some experience in shipping apples to
England, and T have watched them, and others have watched them, and the com-
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was almost useless. It is the universal result of ray inquiry that bad attention to
the fruit has caused this, because the barrels were injured and shaken about and ill
used by the employees of these vessels. Now I hold it to be of the very first conse-
quence to the shippers of fruit, not only from Ontario, but from Quebec, New Bruns-
wick and Nova Scotia, that it be put upon the English market without being
injured. Now, there can be no possible difficulty in placing our fruit upon the
English market in good condition, if the ship is arranged with proper ventilation,
so that the fruit will not be heated in transit. Now, I know a proposition has been
made to protect our fruit, by which it may be kept cool and thoroughly protected
from the heating process; but there is one difficulty, and there is where the mischief
arises, and it is from that fact that our losses occur. Our barrels a/o handled
too roughly, and I entii'ely agree with any proposition whereby a judicious means
of moving the fruit in transit can be procured, so as to get it in good condition on
the market.

The resolution was carried.

A committee was then appointed to wait upon the transportation companies.

Mr. L. WooLVERTOX, Secretary of the Ontario Fruit Growers' Association, read
his paper on

Applk Growing in Southern Ontario.

The apples of southern Ontario are gradually gaining a world-wide reputation.
In its favoured climate and fertile soil the apple is found in greater pei-fection of
growth than in any other country in the world. So well known have Ontario
apples become in foreign markets that the barrels so branded command a higher
price in the British market than those of other countries. This superiority consists
in the highest combination of points with regard to size, colour and quality. In
some places apples grow to an abnormal size at a sacrifice of quality; in others
they are firmer, and consequently longer keepers; but we claim that here these
qualities are combined in a high degree of excellence. The numerous medals
awarded to the Ontario Fruit Growers' Association for excellency of display and for
best society collections of fruits, by the Ameiican Pomological Society, the
Centennial Commisision, of Philadelphia, and at the late Intercolonial Exhibition in
England, bear witness to the excellence of the fruits of southern Ontario, and all
have served to draw the attention of intending settlers to our fertile country.

It is well known that the further north an apple can be successfully grown the
better for its colour and its keeping qualities; and for this reason a few varieties
succeed better still further north. For instance, the Fameuse, that pi-ince of dessert
}';>plc8, succeeds far better in the neighVurhood of Montreal, both in size and colour,
than in the Niagara district, and the Wealthy apple can be grown much larger and
finer in the vicinity of Ottawa than on the southern shore of Lake Ontaiio. But for
a long list of our very finest winter apples, the latitude of Montreal or Ottawa is too
high, and would prove destructive to their very life.

Briefly, we will here mention a few of the varieties which are most highly
valucil for export, as grown in southern Ontario and which are here in their most
northern limit of successful culture. First, there is the King, a beautiful large red
apple of the most excellent quality. The writer has an orchard of this variety, now
twenty-five yeai's planted, and has found it to bring, invariably, the highest price of
any apple sent forward to either the Canadian or British markets, sometimes selling
in Covent Garden as high as ?6 per barrel. This last season this apple has been
quoted at from 85 to $6 per barrel in the British markets, and even in Canada 1 have
sold it at the rate of $4 per barrel, f.o.b. When well grown it attains a fine size,
and on one occasion, by actual count, I have filled a barrel with one hundred and
eighty-four apples. But like other precious articles, the King apple is hard to get
in any quantity. The tree is a scant bearer at best.

The Gravenstein, a fall apple, beautifully striped and splashed with retl, of fair
size and of excellent quality also, is another prime apple for export, brings almost
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as high a price as the King in the British market. This apple is a good bearer, and
it is a mystery why so few trees of this kind ai-e planted.

The Roxbury and the American Golden Busset are two varieties very highly
valued by the commercial orchardist. The former, when well grown, is of a good
size and, when mature, of fairly good quality. Its great feature, however, is its
keeping qualities, owing to which it may be kept in our own fruit house or cellai's
until March or April, and then shipped on to either home or foreign markets at the
time when other varieties are scarce and apples are high-priced. The American
Golden Russet is about equally valuable as a market apple, but is inclined of late to
be somewhat affected by the apple scab, known to scientists as fusicladium dendriti-
cum; and, indeed, unless this can be overcome by means of copper sulphates or
h5'persulphite of soda, will destroy many of our verv best apples.

The Cranberry Pippin is an apple that has c .ate highly commended itself to
me us a commercial apple. It is large, oblong, beautifully striped and splashed with
red, of a waxen lustre, and very crisp flesh. I find it sells^ x very high price as a
fancy apple. The tree is a very rapid grower, and unlefc well pruned and treated
with potash fertilizers much of the fruit will be mishapen. I would include it in
our list.

The Northern Spy has a high reputation as a commercial apple. In quality it
is excelled by very few, and when clear and well grown is also a beautiful apple, but
of late I have found it particularly liable to spot.

The Baldwin has had a wonderful run of popularity on account of its fine
appearance, large size under good cultivation, and enormous productiveness. But
of late it has not borne out its reputation in this regard, and some large orchards of
this variety in southern Ontario or in western New York have been for several
yeai'S almost ban-en. Then, the quality of the Baldwin is only second rate, and,
altogether it does not seem wise to recommend it as highly as formerly.

The Greening is one of our standard winter export apples, and is hard to dis-
place by any of the newer varieties for planting in southern Ontario. As generally
grown it is not beautiful in appearance, being entirely green, and not very even in
form. But in the rich sandy loam of the Niagara district it grows perfectly even in
form, and takes on a beautiful red blush, so that it is number one in beauty as well
as quality. It is yearly becoming more and more appreciated in foreign markets,
and since it is one of the most productiveof all apples, it well deserves a place among
our best varieties. To show what the Greening will do under favourable conditions,
I may here make mention of an old Greening apple tree in my father's orchard
which, at 75 yec-:<, of age, covered a space of ground 40 feet in diameter, and
yielded twenty barrels oi apples. It would be easy to calculate a fortune from an
orchai'd of such trees; thus, 40 trees per acre at 20 barrels per tree, at $1 net per
barrel, $800 per acre; 100 acres, $80,000 per annum! Many thus foolishly exagger-
ate the profits of fruit culture, arid I must confess to having been myself somewhat
duped by reading glowing descriptions of the enormous profits of fruit-culture as
given in papers and journals which are now run in the interests of the nurserymen,
and not of the fruit-grower, when I sold out every head of cattle and converted a
grain farm into a fruit farm.

On the whole, however, I am now, after sixteen j'ears of patient waiting, quite
contented with the result. An apple orchard I am satisfied is in Southern Ontario,,
the most valuable part of the farm, provided it is planted with a Judicious selection
of varieties, such as are indicated above. Accordinj' to my experience, a fair yield
per acre from such varieties as Spy, Greening and Roxbury Russet is an average
of about iwo barrels per tree, from trees in their prime, or over twenty-five years
planted. The price fluctuates considerably, according to the state of the foreign
markets. For instance, in 1880 the average price per barrel in Ontario, according
to the Dominion statistics, was 82.37 ; in 1881 it was only $1.60, in 1884 $3.23,
in 1887, $1.92, and in 1888 $2.06. Of course, this price includes the package.
Perhaps it would be fair to average the net value of a barrel of good winter apples
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an orchard in prime bearing about $80 per acre. This, of course, presupposes
every tree to be in thrifty condition, well pruned, well cultivated, and well dressed
each year vrith suitable fertilizers.

tor those who are situated near to our large cities, it will be profitable to grow
fancy summer apples, such as the Red Astracan and Duchess of Oldenburg, which, on
account of their extreme beauty, rather than their quality, command a high price in
our home markets.

With regard to the extent of the apple orchards of Ontario, it is stated in the
report of the Ontario Bureau of Industries that there are about 200,000 acres of
orchards in the Province, and of these about 6Q,000 are situated in the counties border-
ing on Lake .Ontario, about 40,000 in counties bordering on Lakes Erie and St. Clair,
20,000 in counties bordering on Lake Huron, and about 50,000 more are situated in
the inland counties lying intermediate between the above mentioned. Thus it is seen
that a largeportion of the commercial orchards of Ontario are situated in the southern
part of the Province.

The export of apples from Ontario is gradually increasing, according to the sta-
tistics in the same report. In 1880 only about 32,000 barrels were exported, and the
quantity has annually increased until in the year 1888 over 226,000 barrels were
exported, yielding the Province a revenue of at least as many dollars.

From these imperfect statements it will at least be evident that apple ci Iture in
southern Ontario is one of the most important industries in which the farmer can
engage who is favourably situated as to climate, soil and markets, and that by such
conventions as these, at which these important points are brought forwai-d, much
good will result to the Dominion, b-yr increasing the interest in fruit culture, and
thereby ultimately inci'easing the wealth of the country.

The PBE8iDENT.~At the close of the proceedings of this meeting t feel that we
cannot adjourn without my making one or two remarks with reference to the work
we have accomplished and the origin of this work. As I pointed out in my opening
address, the conception of this meeting originated two years ago. Those with whom
the idea started, felt that there was some important work to be done by such an assem-
blage of fruit-growers, representing the interests in the widely-separat 3d parts of this
Dominion, and it was this feeling which urged them forward to renew the applica-
tion to the Government tor a grant, which at fii-st was not granted. The application
failed, however, for various reasons, and it was only by pursuing the matter that the
object was finally attained. We may consider, I think, from the success which has
attended this meeting, that those efforts were not in vain. In fact I think, we may
hold that this meeting has been of an eminently successful character. The papers
have been valuable, and the discussions have been carried on with a degree of intelli-
gence and interest which it is very rare to find in meetings of this kind ; and as one
gentleman remarked to-day after he had been listening to our discussion here, he said :
" I fear you are going to set up a rival House of Commons. This is a fruit parlia-
ment." This is, I think, what we may consider the highest tribunal for the decision
of matters relating to the fruit industry ; and I may say, furthermore, that the success
which has attended this meeting, not only regarding the papers presented and the
discussions thereon, but taking the meeting all around, that it is a surprise to all, and
exceeds the anticipations we had of it. Of course, I looked upon this as a matter of
experiment. It was a matter of experiment. When we applied to the Hon. Mr. Car-
ling last spring for the money which has enabled us to come together here, and when he
finally announced that the money had been granted, and «ve were making arrange-
ments for this meeting, he said : "I suppose you will be wanting a meeting every year."
I said, "That is entirely for the future. We may, but we cannot tell." I said at present
we had not developed any precise plan with respect to that, but I felt perfectly confi-
dent that the interests involved in this meeting were of such an important character
that if any reasonable measure of success attended our proceedings something better
would result in the way of permanent organization. Now, that result has actually
been attained, and we have established here indeed a permanent organization — at
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sabstantial support of the Grovernment in order to carry them out. Nov/, I look upon
this movement a» the roost important movement that has ever been taken in Canada
in the interests of fruit culture, and I now consider that the establishment of this new
society is of even greater importance. It opens a very broad field of usefulness, and I
say in the future the members of this society will have a noble work before them,
and 1 feel that it is an honour to anybody to be connected with the promotion of that
work. I have felt, as I have presided over this meeting during the three days we
have been in deliberation, that it was certainly an honour to preside over the dis-
cussions of so eminently intelligent a body of men as we have here now. With
reference to the new society, I may say that much against my own wishes the com-
mittee of organization saw tit to urge upon me the acceptance of the Presidency of
this Association for the coming year. Personal considerations would have induced
me to absolutely decline that, but I have always held that where a man can be of any
small use in promoting the general welfare it is his duty to do so, even if it be by
sacrificing his own personal convenience, and it was in that spirit that I finally con-
sented to accept the office, which was thus most kindly presented me. T may say
that I consider this office given to me is one of very great honour, and it will be my
duty or my endeavour during the coming year to do the best I can, in my own small
way, to promote the very large interests which are entrusted to me as President of
this new society. (Loud applause).

Mr. Starratt. — Coming here 1,100 miles from a lower Province, a stranger
amongst strangers, I came to this Convention, and I am glad to say that I have enjoyed
myself very much listening to the papers that have been read and the discussions
which followed by the gentlemen here assembled. I go away with very good feel-
ing towards the gentlemen I have met here, and towards the association engaged in
this grand work. This is a great and growing industry. It is particularly so in the
Annapolis valley. The day is not far distant when the Annapolis valley to Bigby
will be one vast orchard. People are awakening to the situation and are looking
forward to the possibilities. I thank you all gentlemen for the thoroughly courteous
manner and warm consideration which you have extended to myself and my
colleague, and I hope to meet you all at another convention.

Mr. Peters. — 1 cannot allow this session to close without expressing to you,
gentlemen, the very great satisfaction which I have felt in meeting with you.
Coming from a distant Pi-ovinoe — a Province which used to be considered very
dista'it until the short line was constructed — a perfect stranger to all men who have
been connected with this association, I may say that I have felt very much at home
here, for a day or so. I thank those with whom I have associated for the cordial
I'eception they have given me and the courteous treatment they have accorded me,
and I shall carry home nothing but the most kindly feelings.

The usual vote of thanks was tendered to the Press, and the Convention
adjourned.

APPENDIX.

Prizes Awarded at Dominion Convention of Fri it-Growers held at Ottawa on
, 19th, 20th and 21st February, 1890.

Judges.— 0. B. Hadwen, Worcester, Mass ; S. D. Willard, Geneva, X. Y.

Section 1 — Seedlings.

Winter Dessert Apples — 5 Specimens.

Ist. Smith «& Kiernan, St. Catharines, Out $10

2nd. Thomas Beall, Lindsay, Ont 5

3rd. J. Croil, Aultsville, Out 3

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Winter Cooking Apples — 5 Specimens.

Ist. A. Brousseau, Abbotsford, Que

2nd. S. Greenfield, Ottawa, Ont 5

3rd. C. O. Fisk, Abbotsford • 3

Winter Pears.
1st. P. C. Derapsey, Trenton 10

Section 2 — Standard Varieties of apples.

American Golden Busset.

1st. W./Borthwick, Ottawa, Ont 3

2nd. M. Pettit, Winona 2

Highly commended — C. O. Fisk, Abbotsford, Que.

Arabka.

Ist. Charles Gibb, Abbotsford, Que 3

2nd. P. Dupuis do do 2

Baldxcin.

1st. J. Graham, Walibridge, Ont 3

2nd. P.O. Dempsey, Trenton, Ont 2

Highly commended — W. Borthwick, Ottawa, Ont.

Ben Davis.

1st. J. Graham, Walibridge, Ont i 3

2nd. P.O. Dempsey, Trenton, Ont 2

Highly commended — W. Borthwick, Ottawa, Ont.

Blenheim Orange.

1st. G. Murray, Deer Park, Ont 3

2nd. J. Croil, Aultsville, Ont 2

Blue Pearmain.

1st. J. M. Fisk, Abbotbford, Que 3

2nd. P. Dupuis, do do 2

Canada Baldwin.

1st. A. Brousseau, Abbotsford, Que 3

2nd. J. M. Fisk, do '-^

Cabashea. ...

1st. J. Graham, Walibridge, Ont 3

2nd. W. Borthwick, Ottawa, Ont 2

Cranberry Pippin.

1st. W. Borthwick, Ottawa, Ont 3

Fallaicater.

1st. W. Borthwick, Ottawa, Ont 3

2nd. R. W. Starr, Cornwallis, N.S 2

Fameiise.

Ist. J.Graham, Walibridge, Ont 3

2nd. G. B. Edwards, Covey Hill, Que 2

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Greening (Bhode Island).

Ist. S. L. Peters, Queenstown, N.B $ 3

2nd. J. Graham, Wallbridge, Ont 2

Grimes Golden.

2nd. G. B. Edwai-ds, Covey Hill, Que 2

King.

Ist. W. Borthwick, Ottawa, Ont 3

2nd. M. Pettit, Winona, Ont -^ 2

Highly commended — Smith & Eerman, St. Catharines, Ont.

Mann.

1st. P. C. Dempsey, Trenton, Ont 3

2nd. J. Graham, Wallbridge, Ont 2

Newton Pippin.

Ist. D. Vanduzen, Grimsby, Ont 3

2nd. L. "Woolvei-ton, do

Nonpareil.

1st. C. E. H. Starr, Wolfville, N.S 3

2nd. E. W. Starr, Cornwallis, N.S 2

Ontario.

Ist. W. Borthwick, Ottawa, Ont 3

2nd J. Graham, Wallbridge, Ont 2

Peck's Pleasnnt.

1st. J. Graham, Wallbridge, Ont 3

2nd. P. C. Dempsey, Trenton, Ont 2

Pewaukee.

1st. P. Dupuis, Abbotsford, Que 3

Potnme de Fer.

1st. E. Charron, Eougemont, Que 3

2nd. N. C. Fisk, Abbotsford, Que 2

Highly commended— -G. B. Edwai-ds, Covey Hill, Que.

Pomme Grise.

1st. N. C. Fisk, Abbotsford, Que 3

2nd. J. M. Fisk do do 2

Roxhury Russet.

Ist. W. Borthwick, Ottawa, Ont 3

2nd. J. Graham, Wallbridge. Ont 2

Highly commended — P. C. Dempsey, Trenton, Ont.

ScotVs Winter.

1st. Charles Gibb, Abbotsford, Que 3

2nd. E. W. Shepherd, jr., Como, Que 2

Seek-no-Further.

Ist. D. Vanduzen, Grimsby, Ont «... 3

2nd. G. Murray, Deer Park, Ont 2

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Spitzenburg.

Ist. G. Murray. Deer Park. Ont $ 3

2nd. G. B. Edwards, Covey Hill, Quo 2

Spy,

Ist. G. B. Edwards, Covey Hill, Que 3

2nd. W. Borthwick, Ottawa, Ont 2

Highly commended— A. G. Hull, St. Catharines, Ont.

Starke.
Ist. R. W. Starr, Comwallis, N .S 3

Swaar.
1st. XJ. B. Edwards, Covey Hill, Que 3

Swasie.

Ist. R W. Starr, Cornwallis, N.S 3

2nd. G. B. Edwards, Covey Hill, Que 2

Tolman Sweet.

Ist. J. Croil, Aultsville, Ont 3

2nd. P. C. Dempsey, Trenton, Ont 2

Wagener.

2nd. W. Borthwick, Ottawa, Ont 2

Highly commended— £. W. Starr, Starr's Point, N.S.

Wealthy.

Ist. G. B. Edwards, Covey Hill, Que 3

2nd. J. M. Fisk, Abbotsford, Que...., • 2

Yellow Belleflower.

1st. J. Croil, Aultsville, Ont 3

2nd. G. Murray, Deer Park, Ont. -

Highly commended— W. Borthwick, Ottawa, Ont.

Any other variety of Dessert.

1st. J. Croil, Aultsville, Ont ^

2nd. ijr. B. Edwards, Covey Hill, Que ^

Any other variety of Cooking.

1st. G. E. Roach, Abbotsfoi-d, Que 3

2nd. W. Marshall, Abbotsford, Que -

Section III— Pears— 5 Specimens of each.
Belle Angevine.

Ist. Mrs. Evans, Chilliwhack, B.C ^

2nd. R. Wintermute, New "Westminster, B.C -

Beurri Grises.

1st. P. C. Dempsey, Trenton, Ont ^

Buchesse de Bordeaux.
1st. P. C. Dempsey, Trenton, Ont ^

Josephine de Malines.
Ist. P. C. Dempsey, Trenton, Ont ^

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Section IV — Domestic Bottled Fruits — 1 Quart of each.

Apples.

Ist. Mrs. A. M. Smith, St. Catharines, Ont $ 3

2nd. Miss E. Smith, St. Catharines, Ont 2

Pears.

Ist. Miss E. Smith, St. Catharines, Ont 3

Peaches.

1st. Mrs. A. M. Smith, St. Catharines, Ont 3

Cherries.

1st. Mrs. A. M. Smith, St. Catharines, Ont 3

Easpberries.

1st. Miss E. Smith, St. Catharines, Ont.. 3

Strawberries.

1st. Mrs. A. M. Smith, St. Catharines, Ont 3

Section V — Winter-Keeping Grapes.

Grapes — Six Bunches Red.

1st. A. G. Hull, St. Catharines, Ont 4

2nd. M. Pettit, AVinona, Ont 2

3rd. W. Borthwick, Ottawa, Ont 1

Grapes — Six Bunches Black.

1st. W. Borthwick, Ottawa, Ont '. 4

2nd. M. Pettit, Winona, Ont 2

Collection of Canned Fruits exhibited by Canning Company.

1st. Delhi Canning Company, Delhi, Ont 15

2nd. W. Boulter, Pic ton, Ont 10

Highly commended, Simcoe Canning Co., Simcoe, Ont.

NoTK — Plates of Winter Nellis, Beuri^ d'Angou and Easter Beurre Pears were
exhibited by Mr. E. A. Hale, Cambridgeport, Mass., and a large collection of canned
vegetables by Mr. Wellington Boultej-, of PictOn, Ont., all of which exhibits were
highly commended by the judges.

Although the date of the Convention was not announced in time to take
steps for the preservation of the earlier varieties of winter fruits, and the season
had not been a favourable one, a very creditable display was made, some 600 plates
being on exhibition.

The following papei-s, &c., were read by title, and in accordance with a resolu-
tion to that effect are published in connection with the proceedings of the Conven-
tion : —

Experiments

in Grape Culture
Pattison,

BY Wm. M£\D

in the Province of Quebec
Clakenceville, Que.

Though not so highly favoured as to climate as our sister Province of Ontario,
an interest has been awakened in our Province in grape culture through the efforts
of its Fi'uit Grower's Association, and in localities exempt from unseasonable frosts
most o.:' the varieties of any promise have been tested as to their adaptability. Yet
in a commercial point of view grape-raising in Quebec is subject to contingencies
that muy never make it i)rofitable, but for home supply the vine is steadily making
its way into our gardens in the southern portion of our Provine. Having for some

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years past devoted my leisure time to experimenting in this and other fruits, I have
been asked to give results obtained in the trial of over one hundred and twenty-five
varieties of grapes in open air on my grounds.

I should, however, state that for market purposes my production is about
limited to the necessities of the case, as when our fruit is ripe enough to eat the
market in our cities is usually glutted with southern grapes, and we can only rely
for remunerative prices on the fresh and fine appearence of our fruit, so that I was
not actuated, in entering into this undertaking from an idea of any " money in it."

In the list appended the classification shows first market varieties, classed in
order of profit, but the others about in the oi-der of their ripening.

To any intending to cultivate a few vines for home supply it should be stated
that varieties classed as "Market" afford a safer selection, as the majority under
the head " Home " could be very well dispensed with ami dropped altogether from
our already too long list.

To a convention of fruit growers it is hardly necessary to enter into the des-
cription of well-known varieties, but brief details will be given of the " novelties "
in their order as to colour.

Black and Purple Grapes — Market in order of value. — Champion, Concord,
Worden, Moore's Early, Dempsey's Seedling, Barry. Herbert, Aminia, Essex, Wilder,
Hartford and Belvidere.

Black and Purple — Homo-use, in order of ripening. — Adirondac,Creveling, Early
Victor, Louise, Canada, Eumelan, Hockland, Favourite, Senasqua, Bacchus, Isabella
and Othello.

Black Novelties that have fruited. — Garber's Seedling, Jewell, Standard, Rom-
mel's Delaware Seedling, Peabody, Norwood, Frances Scott and August Giant.

Black Novelties on trial that have not fruited. — Caj- vood's No. 50, Nectar or
Black Delaware (jCaywood), Metterney (Caywood). Paragon (Burr). Eaton.

Black and Purple Discarded. — Florence, Telegraph, Cottage, Early Dawn,
Rickett's, No. 543, Miles, Hooker, Brant, Mansfield, Waverley, Linden; Black Eagle,
Union Village and Highland.

Kotts on above Xoveliies.

Garber — Origin Pennsylvania, U. S. A., native, medium bunch and berry, com-
pact, red peduncle, highly coloured juice, a vigorous, hardy and profuse beurei-,
y preferable for wine, jellies and canning.

Jewell — Origin Kansas, U. S. A. (John Burr's best so far, fully tested), medium
bunch and berry, compact, early, prolific and excellent in flavour.

Standard (Burr) — Same description as his Jewell, but not as vigorous or early.

Rommel's Delaware Seedling (Jacob Rommel, Missouri) — Large, compact bunch,
medium berry, early, and fine in flavour, so far vigorous and hardy, and a grape of
much promise.

Peabody, Rickett's, Newbergh, N.Y., Clinton Seedling — The best of his black
varieties, bunch presenting a fine, compact appearance, berry, medium, flesh
tender, juicy and rich, roots suifered in the winter of 1885-86.

Norwood — Origin Massachussets, U. S. A., resembles Concord in foliage and
hardiness, bunch and berry large, ripens with Worden, but does not drop its berry
when ripe.

Frances Scott (Rickett's) — Small bunch and beny, medium early, highest
quality, but subject to mildew.

Dempsey's Seedling — This remarkable grape was kindly sent me for trial with
his Burnet and others, by Mr. Peter C. Dempsey, Trenton, Ont., some years since,
as No. 25, but as^ I have seen this number quoted as a white grape, 1 have since
omitted to number it. The grape very clos^^ly icsembles Barry (Rogers' No. 43), but
has proved earlier, more prolific and better in flavour. Mr. Dempsey's Burnet has
never failed to ripen here, with attention to thinning out, only showing mildew last
season, with many others hitherto exempt, and is much esteemed for its delicacy of
flavour.

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II V.

White Grapes — Market. — Niagara, Lady, Empire State, Duchens, Belinda,
Mai'tha.

Home Use. — ElDorado, Jessica, Purity, Allen's Hybrid, Antoinette. Charlotta,
Mason's Seedling, Grein's Golden, Peter Wiley, Sweetwater, Chasselas (" from Bel-
gium or France, 1840,") Prentiss, Pocklington and Lady Washington.

White Novelties fruited. — Golden Gem (Rickett's), Golden Drop (Pringle),
Undine (Rickett's).

White Novelties not yet fVuiting. — Frances B. Hayes, Eclip8e (Burr).

Whites Discarded. — Kommel's July, Early Auvergne, fontignan and Early
Malvasia (foreign), Rebecca, Perkins, Croton, Rommel's Superior, Faith, Centennial,
Autochon, Blanche, Rickett's No. 346, Lady Charlotta, Transparent, Eva, Irving,
Noah and Triumph.

Notes on While Novelties.

Golden Gem. — ^Very small bunch and berry, prolific, delicate foliage, quality
its only favourable feature.

Golder Drop. — Origin Vermont, quite early, small to medium bunch and berry,
good quality, slow grower.

Undine. — Large, showy, compact bunch, medium berry; our season usually too
late to develop its flavour.

Red Grapes — Market. — Massasoit, Delaware, Brighton, Lindley and Vergennes.

Home Varieties. — Northern Muscadine, Wyoming Red, Gaertner, Walter,
Mary, Salem, Owosso, Agawam, Roger's Nos. 8 and 30, and Jefferson.

Novelties fruited. — Beauty (Rommel), Poughkeepsie Red (Cay wood), Ulster
Prolific (Cay wood).

Novelties not yet fruited. — WooUruff's Red, Ideal (Burr).

Discarded. — Dracut Amber, Challenge, Underbill Seedling, Diana, Hamburg
and Amber.

Notes on Red Novelties.

Ulster (Marlboro, N.Y.) — A vigorous grower and abundant bearer, berry aud
bunch somewhat resembh-.g Catawba, but often shouldered, good quality, and gives
promise of being a popular standard.

Poughkeepsie Red. — Bunch and berry larger than Delaware, quality nearly as
good, earlier, but a very moderate bearer.

Beauty. — A small wine grape, rarely maturing in this latitude.

In conclusion, in order to meet questions often asked as to my preference
amongst the perplexing array of varieties, will say that for general usefulness as
well as profit those classed above as "Market" would be my selection, while for
home varieties, though some of which are otherwise unprofitable, the family favourites
are in black, in order of ripening, Jewel, Adirondac, Peabody, Barry, Concord and
Burnet. In white, Jessica, Lady, ElDorado, Duchess, Purity and Chasselas. In
ed, Massasoit, Delaware, Brighton, Walter, Lindley and Salem.

For winter use Herbert, Barry, Duchess, Empire State, Salem and Vergenne?.

(Letter From Miss Annie L. Jack, Chateauguay Basin.)

" I do not think grapes have been better tested commercially in this Province
than on our fruit farm, Hillside. While making it a point to test many new varieties
we have but few that repay the care and labour, and among thirty tested sorts we
can endorse Prof, Thurber's comment made years ago : " You can go to the Concord
with a wheelbarrow, but to almost every other kind with a hand-basket." Since he
made this remark some more prolific varieties have been originated, but our acre of
Niagaras has never yet repaid ns the interest on our money, only one good full crop
being yet px'oduced, though they often beai* a partial ci op when othera fail. So we
place Concord first commercially, Niagara next, and then the Duchess, a small white
grape that has one good quality, that of keeping until the new year without loss of
flavor or texture. The Champion or Beaconsfield, while very pi-olific, is of such

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poor quality we have never thought it worthy of cultivation, making it a rule not
to put on the market what we cannot eat ourselves. For this reason we wait till
our Concords are ripe, instead of selling them when just colouroti, though by that time
they are much reduced in price; and so, to sum up we find grapes a very unsatisfac-
tory commercial crop, subject to many varying contingencies. Last senison there
was only here and tiiere a bunch of fruit on the vines, though they sot well in the
spring, and when there is a full crop everywhere, prices run down to 2 and 3
cents a pound, which, with the cost of baskets, freight, netting and labour, leaves
but a small surplus for the grower. A grape is a grape to most buyers, and what
we most need is a discriminating public to be able to tell superior varieties and well
ripened fruit, and willing to pay a liitle more for it."

i^';:ar Culture in Southern Ontario : by N. J. Clinton, Windsor, Ont.

Had it been in the month of September, instead of February, when this great
gathering of the fruit growers of the Dominion was convening, it would have been
easier for us to demonstrate to you the beauties and attractiveness of this occupa-
tion than it is to-day.

"We could have shown j'ou samples of this fruit that would be both pleasing to
the taste as well as the eye, for instance, the Bartlett, Clapp's Favorite, Flemish
Beauty, Seckel, &c. Are thei-e any nicer fruit of any class to eat than these in their
season (providing they are developed to their highest perfection). In these we do
not come in contact with a fuzzy skin at the first bite, which has somewhat of a
repelling nature, as in the peach, nor on investigating further our teeth do not run
against a stone or pit (as in the plum or peach). And when the housewife purchases
fruit to can or preserve, from half a bushel to a bushel (what they usually put up
with us) she gets better value for her mone.y in bulk than she does in either of the
last named varieties, as there is less waste in preparing them for the jar. However,
these other classes of fruit have redeeming qualities, such as flavor, &c., that bring
them upon an equal with the pear and are equally sought after in the market.

There is a great difference in the same variety of pear grown in ditt'erent
localities and under different circumstances. This is equally true of other classes of
fruit.

It is not necessary for me to state here that pear trees want cultivation as well
as any other crop. It is not enough to plant, take care of them until they commtnce
bearing, and then seed the orchard down into grass, and leave it to shift for itself;
if BO the result is the fruit becomes small and inferior in flavour.

The first pear trees that were grown in south-western Ontario were the old French
trees (some now standing on the bank of the Detroit River). They were brought
over from France by Father Potior, a Jesuit, and planted some time between the
years 1760 and 1780. The fruit is considered fairly good for preserving and eating,
and sells for 50 cents to $1.00 a bushel, when other pears bring 01.50 to $2.00.
With a crop of fifteen to twenty bushels they are quite profitable at tint price, but
since that time the hand and brain of the horticulturist have improved on them by
hybridizing with other varieties, and importing, until many new and better varieties
have been introduced. Mr. James Dougall started one of the first nurseries, and
had at one time over three hundred varieties of pears in his nuisery, and shipped
stock nearly all over North America where pears are grown.

The actual season of the pear is from the middle of July, starting with Elliott's
Early, Doyenne d'Ete, Magdelin, and winding up about January with such as Winter
Nellis, Vicar of Winkfield, Lawrence, &c., but after November the market is limited
to a few families, and the varieties worth eating that keep longer are few. Those
mentioned above are the best I know of, with the addition of the Beurre Clairgeau,
Duchess and the Anion, which keep well into November. It is in the latter part of
August and September, and Oct-' ,r, when the larger pear growers have to get a
move on, for instead of a coupk of months to harvest them, as the apple, we have
only a couple of weeks after they are picked, and sometimes hardly^ that. And I
might say right here, gentlemen, that the markets of all our leading cities, when the

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local Hupply is insuflScient, can be furniahed with thJH fruit, also peaches, plums and
grapes, from southern Ontario more cheaply and as good as from any other country
in ttie world.

In our diHtrict Detroit gets most of our Hurplus stock, and there we come in
contact with fruit from diilerent parts of United States, not excepting California,
and in some varieties we can produce them as large as the latter, and in almost all
varieties the flavour of our ftuit is superior.

To show you whether there is any money in raising pears in southern Ontario,
will give you a little of our experience, and you can draw your own conclusions.

We have an orchard of three acres, in which there are four hundred und flfty
trees; these are set close to 17 feet apart each way. Ninety-seven per C3nt. of the
trees are bearing, and are from ten to twenty years of age; some few ere only four
and five years, put in lately to fill up vacancies. For the last three years we have
realized or sold the product for $208, averaging one year with another. For the
year 1887 wo got almost two hundred bushels, for 1888 one hundred and forty
bushels, and 1889 close to two hundred and seventy-five bushels.

Now, talcing cost of the trees at 50c. each it

amounts to $225 00

'V^aiue of land per acre at $150 for three acres 450 00

Labour for setting out trees, 10c. each 45 00

$720 00

Interest on investment of $720, at 8 per cent 43 60

Cost of picking fruit, 50c. per bushel 10 25

Marketing fruit 20 00

Pruning trees, 22J days at $1.50 per day 33 75

Total $107 60

The average gross sales were $208 00

The annual expenditure including interest on in-
vestment 107 60

Net profit for three acres per year $100 40

Net profit for each acre per year 33 46

Some will ask, What about the returns for the first few years after planting ?
In reply I will say that the trees will not interfere materially in raising good crops,
off the same ground, such as potatoes, turnips, mangolds, &c., for the first few
years, and later on nearly any crop that is profitable, for the trees do not shade the
ground as much as apple trees.

Those varieties of pears that succeed well witb ns e, for ^umme^ : Elliott's
Early, Doyenne, d'Ete, Magdeline, Tyson; for a"*' iartlett, Clapp's Favourite,

Flemish Beauty, Seckel, Howell, Louise Bonn ""wcy, Bern " Bosc, Beurre

Superfine, late autumn: Duchess, Anjou, Sh ii, Claiigeau, .vinter: Graslin
(fairl}-). Vicar of Winkfield, Winter Nellis and Law Jince. vfy pick of the first class
would be the Doyenne d'Ete; it has a fine flavour, good api oarance, and usually bears
well ; tree hardy; size small. The Elliott's Early is not much known ; was intro-
duced by Mr. Elliott, of Sandwich, ripens the first with us and it has a good fla mr ;
trees are not very hardy. In the 2nd class, the Bartlett is much sought aftei- and
seems to be the standard pear, and with us brings the highest price in its season ;
also, is used more for canning than any other pear. The Flemish Beauty comes
next for this industry. The Seckel is the finest pear we have for dessert purposes,
and the trees seem hardy and free from blight. The Howell is a good bear • and
sells well, being of good size, with a pale yellow colour. In the 3rd class, for standard
trees I prefer the Anjou and Clairgeau. The latter grow large, and what they lack
in quality, which is fair, is made up by their fine appearance. In the last class all

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three are good, while Winter Nollin may have the n«lvantai;e in flavour, but is usimllj*
not so large as the other varioties. Wo might also mention Jos. De Malincu, Glout
Morceau, and others.

It may not be out of place if I mention a list of hardy pears that might bo
suitable for this district, if pears can be grown horo at all, such as Flemish Beauty,
Fulton, Buffum, Onondaga, Seckel, Sheldon, Beurred'Anjou, WinterNollis, Luwrente,
Tyson, Osbands Summer, Beurre d'Amalis.

In conclusion, gentlemen, let us endeavour to be honest with the dealers and
strive to get an individual name for our fruit by placing it in barrels or baskets the
same sample all through.

Fruit Evapobation and its Belation to the Fruit-Grower ;

Montreal.

Bv J. T. Donald,

When the process of evaporating fruit was first introduced it was thought Ity
many that it would soon displace canning as a mode of fruit preservation. Such,
liowever, has not been the case.

At the present time, in Canada at least, evaporating is practically employed in
the treatment of apples only. Much the same limitation is found in the United
States, if we except the Pacific coast, where the process is successfully applied to
peaches, apricots, pears and other fruits.

Evaporation has been successfully applied to vegetables as well as fruits. Corn
has been treated on a large scale, but at present little, if anything, is done in this
line.

When properly applied, evaporation produces but little change in the fruit
beyond the removal of a large portion of the water originally present, and of cou; e
a corresponding reduotior in weight and bulk. It follows, therefore, that if the
proper quantity of water be added to the evaporated fruit it is practicall}' fresh
ftuit.

Why, then, is it that evaporation is not ^ore extensively employed ? The
reason is not far to seek. On account of the amount of water removed in evaporat-
ing fruit considerable time and care are required to prepare the evaporated fruits
and vegetables for the table : whereas, in the case of canned gooils the cooking is
done in the factory on a large scale, and the goods come into the consumers' hands
quite ready for the table, or at best merely requiring to be warmed. This it is
that prevents the wider application of our process of fruit preservation. The ques-
tion of fruit evaporation is thus practically limited to apples, and in this connection
the industry has assumed somewhat large proportions, and is yet capable of con-
siderable development.

The apples sent to the evaporating factory are suv.h as are not suited for ship-
ping ; that is such as are not possessed of keeping qualities, windfalls and the culls
of winter fruit. At the factory the apples received are divided into two grades ; first
those of good flavour, size and shape, and so suited for peeling by machinery ; and
second, ml inferior, badly-bruised, misshapen and small fruit. The first grade is
peeled, cored and sliced by machinery, often in one operation. The sliced fruit is at
once exposed for a few minutes to the gas produced by burning sulphur. This pre-
vents discoloration, and in no way injures the fruit; at most only a mere trace is left
after evaporation is completed. After being "sulphured," the slices are spread on
trays of galvanized iron netting, or of cloth, and heated air passed over them, the
result being, as already mentioned, that a large portion of the water is withdrawn,
and at the same time certain chemical changes, akin to increased ripening, are
produced in the fruit, resulting in an increased percentage of sugar, and diminished
acidity.

The length of time the apples are exposed to the heated air depends upon the
temperature employed. Considerable skill is required to obtain a satisfactory article ;
if the temperature of the evaporating chamber be not right at the beginning of the
process there is danger that the slices will become damp, whereas a properly eva-
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are usually allowed to lio in a heap for several days, to equalize the moisture that
may be in different batches. They are then packed in boxes usually containing 50
lbs. each.

The cores and peelings of this first grade of apples are not wasted. They and
the inferior apples that reach the evaporating factory may be classed together, as
Lhey usually undergo the same treatment, although worked up separately. Accord-
ing to the market, these two materials are used as a source of cider, or are evapor-
ated, and shipped to jelly makers on this continent, or sent to Europe, where they
are u.^ed in the fabrication of certain grades of wines. Sometimes the apples are
quartered before being evaporated ; sometimes they are treated whole.

Let us glance now at this process in its relation to the fruit-grower. In the
first place, an evaporating factory presents a means of rendei-ing marketable fruit
which otherwise would be unsaleable, and in the second place it gives employment
for several months of the year to a largo number of hands, thus giving an increased
home market for fruit-gi-owors' products. These benefits have been recognized by
fruit-growers in places whove evaporating factories exist, and the inhabitants of
such localities have been willing to offer inducements to companies to locate in
their midst.

If it be granted that an evaporating factory is of advantage to fruit-growers, the
question arises : What is to be done in the fruit-growing districts where no such fac-
tories exist? Can the individual fruit-grower evaporate his own apples ? There
are small machines made for this purpose and widely advertised. Experience has
shown, however, that they do noT: give as good results as they should, and as are
claimed for them, and there is diflSculiy in finding a market for the small lots, and
of course working on a small scale the expense of manufacturing is greater than in
a large factory. In the opinion of the writer, evaporation on the large scale should
be the object of those who would derive benefits from the process, and he would
suggest that the fruit-growers of a district combine, and agree to support a factory,
as they do in the case of cheese-factories and creameries, and it is altogether likely
that someone could be found who would be willing to erect the not very expensive
plant required and conduct the manufacture. It must not be forgotten, however,
that experience is a very desirable quality in the manager of an evaporating factory,
and unless such is at hand the promoters of an evaporating business should begin
operations on a very small scale, gradually expanding as experience is gained by
their manager.

Commercial Orchards in the Province of Quebec;

Grenville, Que.

BY Eev. R. Hamilton,

By commercial orchard I mean an orchard planted solely with a view to the
revenue to be drawn from it. In planting such an orchard, the chief, I may say
the only object, is to make money, and to attain that end only such sorts as are cal-
culated to yield a profit will be planted, whether they be good or only mediocre. It
may be that a third or fourth class fruit, such, for instance, as the Ben Davis apple,
may yield better returns with a smaller outlay of capital, talent and labour, than a
high-class fruit like the Northern Spy, and in such a case it would be the right one
to plant. It is questionable, however, if the public would not in time get over the
depraved taste that permits the purchase of such poor fruit as the Ben Davis.

The apple is the orchard fvnit, par excellence, of the Province of Quebec. A very
few pears are produced, as well as a few plums and cherries, but the quantity is so
inappreciable as not to call for mention ; co that, when I speak of orchards, I mean
apple orchards exclusively.

It is matter of regret to all of us who take a lively interest in the subject that
the range of ouv lartrer fruits is so limited, and it is to be hoped that in the near
future it may be greatly extended, as a good deal of well-directed effert is being put
forth in that direction.

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The principal orchard section of the Province of Quebec is the island of
Montreal. Its soil produces the sorts of apples chiefly consumed in the city, in the
greatest perfection. They are of large size, fine texture, glowing colour, and deli-
cious flavour, and are produced in great abundance. And, proximity to the city, the
great centre of consumption, must naturally lead to ever-increasing areas being
given up to the production of this most important fruit.

Besides the counties of Jacques Cartier and Hochelaga, which, together, com-

Eose' the Island of Montreal, outside of the city, the Counties of Huntingdon. Beau-
arnois, Chateauguay, Eouville, Missisquoi, Sheffbrd and Brome, contain many
large and valuable orchards. Rigaud, on Two Mountains also contains some fine
isolated orchards.

Of orchards in the neighbourhoodof Montreal, undoubtedly the finest are those
of the Upper and Lower Lachino roads. There the soil and situation seem to suit
them admirably, and fruit of the highest excellence is produced.

The number of varieties to be found in Quebec orchards is very large. Upwards
of 150 have been collected. Still, the commercial apples are comparatively few in
number. I believe that nearly the half of all the apples produced in the Province
are Fameuse, and the remainder are, in great part, Strawberry (of Montreal,) Peach
(of Montreal,) St. Lawrence, Red Astrachan, Alexander and Duchess of Oldenburg,
and, in recently planted orchards. Wealthy. In some districts a few other sorts have
been pretty widely planted. Amongst others are the so-called Winter St. Lawrence,
Decarie, Roseau, Pommo Barr^, Golden Russet, Ben Davis, Swazie, Pomme Grise,
Cellini and the King of Pippins.

What are the principal commercial apples of the Province of Quebec?

Twelve years ago the consensus of opinion said, first, Fameuse. If a vote were
taken to-day I believe that decision would be reversed ; for, while that fine sort is
of as high a quality as ever, and as productive, it has become so subject to spotting as
to be, in many places, almost worthless, and can no longer be depended on lor a crop.
As it is only a biennial bearer, and every other crop, at least, spots, it can only be
counted on for a crop about once in four years, except in specially favourable
localities.

Duchess is, in the opinion of many, a much more profitable sort. It comes into
bearing, profitable bearing, earlier than almost every other sort. It is almost always
good, that is, saleable. Its season is, for an early apple, a long one; it bears few
culls; it hangs well on the tree, and carries well, even for long distances. Taken
one year with another, it is one of the most productive and, best feature of all, for
our Province at least, it is unsurpassed in hardiness. It has yet other points in its
favour: Being of compact growth, it may bo planted more closely than most sorts.
Again, it seems to have fewer insect enemies and to be lest subject to injury through
atmospheric changes than most of the sorts with which we are acquainted. Taken
all in all, it has few equals.

Strawberry (of Montreal) approaches the Duchess in many respects. It is only
second to it in hardiness. It is as thrifty and as healthy, but it does not bear so early
or so heavily. But, on the other hand, the fruit is of better quality, and Montreal
fruit men say, sells better. It is slow in coming into bearing, but bears well once it
gets started, and the fruit is beautiful and of good quality both as a dessert and
cooking apple.

Peach (of Montreal) is another hardy, vigorous and fruitful variety, that in those
respects leaves little to be desired. It also has fiew insect enemies and is not liable
to disease. Like the Duchess and Strawberry, it is an early sort. Unlike them, it
will not carry well, and must be grown near to market ; but put up in nice shape it
sells well. It is of very fine quality, whether for eating or cooking, and is superior
in point of productiveness to tne Strawberry, though not equalling the Duchess.

Yellow Transparent, another very early apple, perhaps the earliest of all,
being often ripe in the end of July and always by tne 10th of August. It is an
early bearer, a heavy bearer, and a continuous bearer, taking its off year about once
in four years — at least such has been my experience wi th it. It is probably the most

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profitable of the early apples, and being a compact grower may be planted closely.
It is a beautiful, clean and thrifty tree, but is subject to disease of the bark, and on
that account requires constant watchfulness. I feel inclined to assert that these
are the best four early apples to plant in the greater part of the Province of
Quebec, combining hardiness, healthiness, fruitfulnees, early bearing, beauty and
good marketing qualities in a greater degree than any others, besides being not
difficult as to the character of the soil.

Eed Astrachan, a variety that is grown with profit in some localities, cannot
compete with those mentioned in any of the features indicated, unless in that of
beauty. Ics fine colour is ii its favour. In a favourable situation, where the soil is
rich, deep and cool, it may pay, though probably under such conditions any one of
those mentioned would surpass it.

The Alexander demands almost similar conditions for its successful production.

The St. Lawrence, one of the best apples, is less planted now than formerly. In
many localities it is uncertain and capi'icious. Occasionally it is found to be a light
annual bearer, generally fair, but sometimes spotted and tracked. In fact, it is not a
profitable commercial apple.

Cellini, an apple of the season of Alexander and St. Lawrence, is, I believe, com-
ing to the front. It is a large, fine cooking truit, almost rivalling the Alexander in
size and better in quality. It is a moderate annual bearer, and the tree is amongst
the hardiest, and of a thrifty disposition. It is not so well known and widely planted
as it deserves to be.

Wealthy, an apple of the season of the Fameuse, is a variety of which too much
cannot well be said. It is a more universally useful apple than any other with
which I am acquainted, unii ing in itself almost every desirable feature of a first-rate
fruit. It is as hardy as the Duchess, and as early a bearer ; it is as fruitful as the
Fameuse, and rivals it in size, shape, colour and quality, and keeps fully as long. It
reaches a good size quite early in the season and cooks well, and up to this date I
believe has shown no tendency to spot. As a shipper it will prove about equal to
the Fameuse. Its weak point is, a tendency to bark diseases. J^othing is perfect.

A more beautiful apple, if possible, and a larger, is the so-called Winter St.
Lawrence, but it is not so pi'oduclive, and is decidedly tender in the colder and
bleaker sections.

Theie are very few sorts that can be called winter apples that are at all widely
grown, and no one sort that can be singled out and declared to be generally suitable for
cultivation in the Province of Quebec as such. Quite a few are found occasionally
being successfully grown.

in the counties of Huntingdon, Chateauguay and Beauharnois, in several orchards
the Northern Spy is found doing very well — most frequently in strong, deep, cool
soil.

The .'jame may be said of the Ben Davis, Golden Russet and Blue Pearmain.
But there are more than enough of failures to prevent any one planting any of these
varieties extensively. One very promising sort, especially in the cool, strong soils, is
the Canada Baldwin. It is hardy, a good and heavy bearer of fair-eized apples of fine
quality, that keep well and ship well. Its weak point is that on all but tne deepest
and coolest soils it sun-scalds, and the bark splits on the south side and, as a conse-
quence, it dies early. Its many good qualities should induce orchardists who have
suitable soil to plant it largely. It is the only purely Canadian long-keeping apple
that can be grown in our Province.

Scott's Bed Winter is highly spoken of by some who have grown it, but is
very small and exceedingly sour until quite late in the spring, and at my place is far
from being hardy.

The great need of our Province is a long keeping apple — one that shall combine
the quality of the Northern Spy with the beauty of the Winter St. Lawrence, the
fruitfulness of the Fameuse and the haixliness of the Duchess. One that might be
planted in any situation, like the Duchess, for example, with some promise of success.
Such a variety would be of incalculable benefit to the whole country. Let us hope

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Hints on the No3ienclature of Fruits by R. W. Starr, Cornwallis, X. S.

Mr. Chairman. —I would like to call the attention of this convention to the
importance of the correct and proper nomenclature of our fruits, especially those
commercial sorts, which now have a favourable reputation in the markets of the
world.

Incorrect nomenclature is productive of many evils ; it causes market reports,
in many instances, to be valueless to the grower; and in others, injures the reputa-
tions of varieties ; while in still other cases the reputation of the packer sutfers,
from ignorance, the imputation of intentional fraud, by representing his goods as
other than they are.

Any variety of fruit that is known in the markets has a certain reputation for
certain qualities, and is largely bought and sold on that reputation, which should
not be imj)erilled by the carelessness, ignorance or dishonesty of the grower or
packer, from the use of incorrect names.

The use of synonyms should be avoided as much as possible, and where ob-
served, noted for correction. Local names given through ignorance of the real
name should be corrected as soon as discovered, so as, if possible, to prevent their
being established. >Turserymen are frequently to blame for sending out old sorts
under new names, thus adding to the existing complications. They should be more
careful and test everything new, or supposed to be new, before sending it out. As
to the work done by irresponsible tree brokers and pedlars, we cannot control them,
and those who deal with them must expect to be frequently sold or disappointed.

Unfortunately, many of our fruits have received local names, and wrong names,
in years gone by. They are known by those names in the markets, and all attempts
to change them has only i-esulted in confusion and failure. For instance, "Yellow
Bollefleur " is known in the markets of the Maritime Provinces as "The Bishop's
Pippin," or " Bishop Pippin," and all attempts to correct the name have met with
decided opposition from dealers and market men ; and " Flushing-Spitzenburg" is
universally called in the market " Vandervere," with similiar objections to any
change. I find the same apple here as Pomme de Fer. Some of our well known
varieties have been burdened with absurdly long and inappropriate names, and
fruit-brokers, market men and dealers, alike seem impatient of their use. The result
is that contractions and abbreviations of all sorts are in general use. " Esopus
Spitzenburg" is called "Spite," " Westfield— Seek-no-Further," "Seek," "Rhode
Island Greening," "Greening," and so on throughout the list. All we can do in
such cases is to accept these changes and abbreviptions, as recognized synonyms of
the various soits, and publish them as such in our reports and transactions.

1 have said thai the use of synonyms should be avoided, but as all rules must
have exceptions I think we must except all those foreign fruits which are blessed
with unpronounceable, jaw-breaking names, and if any of them show signs of coming
popularity, in mercy to ordinary fruit-growers and market men, to prevent dislo-
cation of jaws and distoi-tion of facial muscles, we must self^f^t a short, appropriate
syTionym and publish it as the name by which the variety shall be known.

The American Pomological Society, at the suggestion of its late honoured pre-
sident, the Hon. Marshall P. Wilder, has for some years past been doing good work
in recommending the abbreviation of long names. I think we should bj- re; >>lution
adopt their recommendations as far as they go, and also endeavour to supplement
their work by a close investigation of our own fruit lists, to see what improvement
we can suggest on the same lines. Their rule has been to discard all superfluous
words, affixes and prefixes, where it was ])ossible to do so, and leave a distinctive
name.

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Let me here eay a few words to pomologists, horticulturists and originators of
new fruits or flowers. When you think you have got a good thing don't be tempted
to give it a long fanciful name ; life is too short to use it. Don't give it a very pre-
tentious name; you may come to be ashamed of it. Don't give it the name of some
old variety, adding affix or prefix ; you are only confusing matters, and betraying a
want of originality.

But when you sit down to select a name for your pet to be known by hereafter,
you may choose the name of your town, or your home, your own name, or that of a
friend (if not already taken), choose a word, or, still better, coin one, only let it be
one short, terse, and euphonious word, and your success is half assured.

Transportation of Fruit : by Hugh McColl, St. Joseph du Lac, P. Q.

Great praise is due to the various Horticultural and Fruit Growers' Associations
of the Dominion for their knowledge, acquired by careful study and practical experi-
ence, and for their liberal distribution of such knowledge, which has induced so
many fruit-growers to experiment, many of whom, if left to themselves, would
otherwise have remained silent.

And now that fruit can bo grown in this Dominion with success, as is proven
beyonl £» doubt, the next and essential thing to know is, how this f^'uit is to be
selected, packed and transported to foreign markets. On this subject I have copied
an article from the Auckland, New Zealand Weekly News, which is : " The Orient
Steamship Company are setting a good example to other shipping companies in their
endeavour to promote trade from the colonies to London. They have given a free
passage to an experienced man from the Covent Garden Market in London, to Hobart,
in order that he may give practical instruction in Tasmania on the best methods of
packing fruit for export. This expert, who sailed on 8th November, brings with him
specimen fruit cases in order to show the orchardist the manner in which fruit should
be packed. The Orient Compan}' are making preparations for the carriage of a large
quantity of fruit this coming season. New Zealand fruit-growers may take a hint
from this, for the time is coming, and that soon, when fruit-growing for exportation
over sea will, in all probability, be one of our staple industries."

Seeing that New Zealand is likely to take the lead in transporting fruit to the
English market with success, it is high time for us to move and do likewise, who
are so rnach nearer. And in order to accomplish it with greater success, would it
be too much to ask this Association, which has already done so much, to negotiate
with the various shipping companies who trade to and from our ports, to induce
them to take example fVom the Orient Company ? Seeing that this Association is
making every effort for the success of this important industry, T have no doubt that
by our next fruit season suitable shipping accommodation will be given to shippers.
As proof that our fruit is appreciated on the English market, I have received three
circulars from fruit dealers soliciting consignments, two from Covent Garden,
London, and one from Liverpool.

Note. — A number of communications and papers were received too late to be
brought before the Convention and in consequence are not published with the pro-
ceedings. Among these is a paper contributed by Mr. F. P. Sharpe, Woodstock,
N. B., one of the pioneer fruit growers, and an invited delegate from that province.