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PROSPECTS VOR .« EXPORT OF TENDER FRUITS PCBUSHK,, BV DIRECTION OF THE HoN. SYDNBf A. FiSHBR, MiNISTBB OK AORICDt/TCHF. OJB — .R65I Ottawa, 21st February, 1899. To the Honourable the Minister of Agriculture. Sir —I beg to transmit herewith the Report of an arklress, which T delivered at the Annual Convention of the Fruit-Growers' Association of Ontario, on tlie subject of "Prospects for Export of Tender Fruits." It contains information which would answer many inquiries from fruit-growers, and be otherwise useful. I recommend that it be printed for distribution. I have the honour to be, Your obedient servant, JAS. W. ROBERTSON, Commissioner. I'A f( 0 C( C( g ni 01 at fa in d< ar in th be na pli wi fo: th^ inl ni( thj m< frt the ke pei in fri! gr( are bui the les: tha PROSPECTS FOR EXPORT OF TENDER FRUITS. Jas. W. Robertson, Commissioner of Agriculture and Dairying, saiJ: for .^';v^"?!f'''''' tl"" GENTLEMEN,-Before I say much about the prospects for an export demand for tender fruits I would like to make a few observations on the present status of the busmess of growing tender fruits in Canada. In considering why many people went into fruit-growing, one is soon led to the conclusion, that the general fall in the prices of cereals a while ago made many give up grain farming, in which they had had experience, and for which they had natural aptitude, and go into fruit-growing, without either the special knowledge or personal fitness for making a success of that business. Great areas of Canada are devoted to fruit-growing for that reason. When the ordinary operations of farming did not pay well, there was much discussion as to whether fruit-erow- ing would not pay better. There was a great deal of information of the most in- definite kind diffused over the Province in regard to the benefits and advantages fmi ?[of K ■ ^™'t-&I?.w'"&' and the consequent agitation led a great many men nto that busmess. That was a good thing for agriculture and a good thine for those men, because for a while the fruit-growing business paid very well-much nfrlfarm work " "^^^ ''^^°^^'' *° *^ ""^^ ^^''^ *''^ occupiers through ordi- SoME Reasons for Glutted Markets. That leads one to examine into the kinds of fruit that these ptople have been S?nT"i^fif"^-'!, ^.u""^^ ^r *^'^ '"'"^^ *^^y ^"^ ^'■^w- Most of the men have planted the kinds that can be grown easiest, with least risk, and that yield lareelv (al flTf l^f l/°f '^^."'\'' 't''- ^°"'^ ^' ^. Pe'-'"^«"t or lar^e enough demand for that class of fruit. In addition to growing the kinds that I have alluded to they have grown many kinds, and still grow them just because they have some interesting characteristics, and because the "cuts" of them look vvell in some nice book or catalogue If one goes over a fruit farm and examines the kinds that are growing and why they are being grown, he will find that while my state- ments are rather unpalatable, they are quite true in regard to most farms where fmit-growing is earned on. That has led to this state of things in Canada, that the Canadian fruit-growers are growing more tender fruits than their home mar- kets take care of. I do not say that they are growing more tender fruits than the people of Canada can and would readily consume if they got the kinds they want in the condition they like them. We import and pay out more money for tender fruits from California than would fill the pockets of a great many Ontario fruit- growers with all the profits they could expect from their business. The markets are glutted, not because the Canadian apperite is satisfied with Canadian fruits, but because Canadian fruits have not been of the sort or put up in the way that the Canadian consumer wants; and if not suitab for the Canadian, how much less for the ten times more fastidious Englishman? I want to have vou think of that before I speak of the prospects for a export trade in tender fruit's. 6 The Personal vernt the General Market. pay. In promiscuous erowin.^ e /n7/»rl ^^^^^"^^^.^ '^^ cannot make it scale to have his expenferZw J^ "">' T'^^' °" ^ '^''S^ «"°"ffh fruit-growin, a man ly S vTvl o pm? s^n^^^ ^'""'^ !^« ^'"^ <^^ That beini? so if we havo m rlr,, '"'it on the open general market. our own markets do ake care of can we SnH '^°"^'^f ^^^'^ ^^^ '^"^^'^ ^'""'^ ^'^^" for these varieties of fJ^dts' That is thTnr^i i °"^ 'x ''^■',?^'^ ^' P''^^^^'^'^ P""^ experience \ mm, Thn f-n r • P'^°'^^^"i- ^'^^l I will tell you a little of our cus'ton'ers who parspecial pS °";or .r"?l°"'^ ^'' ^'' ^ome market ^vill find for a general m'arLt'ca.f Je onl hT cTr e^n^n'^'^'^"^^ ^'^^ T" ^^''° ^''^^^ ^-^"^ The two markets are que different in r.^J^ ^T"' ^"^ ^'"'''"^'^ ^°°d ^"a'ity. More than that. the'Z whfg owV?ru,^^^^^^^ returns the grower may get. work on a small fruit farm nSt a ^ood H^.l V °r^ ""^'^^^ "^^^ "^'^y o-^ the his business, and get paid for th.^hvihl °- ^f P^'?^ '^"''^ '"t" ^he carrying on of for just the partlSr'Sfngs th^y wL "wrerea 'if'f L'n"S' that people will pay general open market he has to tnLT. ',.•?' I ^ "^^" throws,his stuff on the large scale with the leas nn«;w^ ^ • ""''•',? *^^ '"^" ^^° ^"-^^s f'-''it on a an export trade or the fi'ner tr^s'^wnM"'"'"^ '" 'f'' " ''' ^'^ to have staples in the fruit food, and 1 th-. ""'" '^^^? to confine ourselves to a few lowest cost to ourselves ^ ^'"''""^ °^ ^^^ ^"t quality and at the The Demand in Great Britain. I tak?to be t?: mrket'^'orTS;' '' '''^^ -y.^eniand in Great Britain? That demand. Of pea? Bri a^^ ^t Tr^ "T'""^' ''^r ^^ ^P^^^ °f ^^ export sometimes mo?e ome imes less of X?. I 7 ' "• '°" ^°"^^^' ^^"''^h a year, worth a year; and of grapes abouVtlr.nH' \^ "''',?" ^"^ ^ ^"^''te'- dollars' from various countries '^IhavenoTmeni V"^ "^u""" ^'°""''^' ^^^'•'^ a year under the heading of ender7nu>s Th. p"v f P''', ^'''f ^'^ '^^'^ ^° "°t come mous quantity of tender fruits The I..ri?r-"'' T'^'^ ^°'' "^"^"""^ ^" ^nor- bv any means developed or ^ pplS In the V.^^ll ""'''■ "^ ^^ '^'"'- ^' '^ "°^ high that the demand has not W. nn^. .i'^ / ^^.^ P"" °^ P^^" ^^' been so Canadians put thSr pea s on the RnH f '"'^ T^ ''\^' '*. "^^^ '^^ «"d will be if apples on the Britislf r^Ske" Th^Jl f nTI '' !,' abundantly as they put their for hieh-erade near, h™ ^ tremendous demand and market there cookiSfn 1 n'manV wa?r TZ'^•sT'■•'"'' l""' '^'^ °^ ^'^^ P^^P'^' througli Halted, and also more fI^.]-l^Sa -^^^eS^?? ^t^^^^S^::; nly chance to market. The It if a man lias Britain, tlion must have a mot make it large enough h quantity of nation of mv >f. Bailey, of 3ught out for fitable prices I little of our ket will find ) grows faiit rood quality. ver may get. carry on the Trying on of )ple will pay stuff on the vs fruit on a are to have es to a few and at the tain? That f an export 3rth a year, "ter dollars' orth a year 3 not come le an enor- It is not as been so I will be if y put their Jrket there e, througli ;n you Irv ilways and nsequentlv something COOliinl'or in'fnv"^t.'" "'' '^' '"^ ^''^'^- '^■''^> ^-^"""^ '""^^'^ "'-• "''vuur bv cooKmg or in any other way. ScMK Essentials to Success. Th,/I""" 'T ^" ''u^'"'^ "■^'J^ '" *^"'''^'' f"""''^ '^'■' •"^"•^* a success of from Canada ^ leJclFTrfr '^" "rjt^ ''" ''■ ^ ^"I'P"'^^ ^^venty times a month nic ite me such problems as : " W ,11 ,t pay nic t.. c« Qualities vviiich Determine Value. First of all the person who undertakes tlie shipping of tender fruits to Britain must know the conditions that the British consumer and importer impose on hmi in regard to fruit. I have learned by two years' experience, that the British con- sumer and importer do not care a snap of their fingers for the fancy names of the specially esteemed kinds of fruit. They do not care a brown baw-bee. whether it has been cracked up by every specialist in the countrv. Soundness is the first consideration, then keeping qualities, then nice appearance in regard to colour size and shape; and lastly the miportcr looks for as nice flavour as vou can give him The latter is not a mi, u of the first importance at first in the commerce ot this business. Soundness, keeping qualities, appearance and then flavour, is the order. Too often the fruit-.grower reverses that order, and savs: "Oh but such a kind of fruit is the most delicious and high-flavoured." It' mav be and may pay to grow for the personal, particular market of tlic man who is ijoine to pay a high price for special intrinsic quality: but the Britisli market will pav lust the common price in the order of those qualities. I want to repeat that over and over again; It is the secret of the whole situation: soundness and keeping qualities after the frtuts are there, then nice appearance, and then a flavour as good as vou can give. When tnal shipments were made bv the Department of Agriculture at Ottawa in 1898. xye found those things that we had learned in 1897 were still further emphasized. The Trial Shipments. In 1897 tl_ie Department took charge of 7.T41 packages of tender fruits and sent them to Great Britain. In 1808 the Department took charge of 381=; pack- ages of tender fruits. We sent in 1897 about three and a half times more than in mainly climatic, the si Lpers iu J c Grin t ^ i »"• ^'""''= '°'" ^^"°"'' «^'^». provide as much fr^i asTey exu^cte?! or t^^'' n """' "°' "^'^ »'"^ >'^«^ ^'^ its trial shipments. The Bs sEefl Lr ' ?*Pf *"1'-'"' ^^nted to carry on ing. from Carious farms/?! a S „ o u!!a?^ ^'^^ ' ' Promiscuous gather- shippers was that the Deoartmont .r l! f ''^ arrangement with the point, and if there was a revenurabovft^^^^^^^^^ '^""^ ^' 'h'^ shipping kind of package tlmt was uIL^ 1, o ' '''?' f '''' ''*^"' ^° ^^^^ s'^iPP^^". Tlie side 22 inches^by I rjy" rlTto eTn'^X'^'r '"^'" ?.^'^^^^^' "^^^«"""& *" fruit. The package lere S- thev wero n' "^"7 '"°''- '"? ^° ^'^'^ '''' °f^he the fruit; they had an attrarHvl' ,11^ ^P*^? ^P"" ventilation and for cooling reasonably clfe^ costing Sut sS^ctn'.""' '"^ ''^'^/•'^ ^«°^' '1"^"'^ ^f being 24 to 30 poundfof frui taccoS .^l^r h^'^I all the way fron. rate fruit was wrapped in tissue oaner.nfl^J ^^? 'nd.v.dual fruits. Each sepa- «o as to cause theS surface toTe faced ^^^^"' ''"' '^"''' ^^""' ^''^ '^^' The Condition as to Ripeness. pear^lLslir^; i;^.^ s;it;![:'l;:^ra:^fiS;' ^^ ?^i^f • -^ ^•^ ^^^ ffo to England are sole' particularly veU because th?;. • ' ^^t^^"-"'^ P^ars that keep them for two weeks afteev get them 01,2^''' '''"'f ''^ '^'y ^^" quality. Anybody in Canada kno vs that a Rir;. ,,9bs6rve-soundness, keeping a tough old fasteless pear f?om Ca i o'n^^^^^ ^onipared with forma would fetch nin*. shillm^c , l^aughter)— still the pears from Cali- shillings, because thrCaliforni/^^^^^^ ^T^' ^^'^ ^''^ ^v°">d fetch only 'x did no^t 'fearlos ng ti?^ nTx? Lrnin." Th?"' '"^ ''' '"^" "'^° ''-^^t ^h^m condition in which it ^s des rec to L I^' ,'^"''-7!,';"' '" '^^''^ *« ^he difficult in practice to Tel when a oeach i-'^?!'' ^'l^^'^' ''"^ '^ '^ exceedingly not know any means o detent brnrthat and T .' "^^' '\^'' ?^ "P^""^" tIio who can. I went through thTorchaHs in Crirnlh"' "? °""? '">' ^^'it-grower they told by the apneararTcf. nAl?J^.; i! ^""^sby and elsewhere, and I found wer'e quite'oft^Tsappo nted that'Z Tnea T" 'S " ^'^ '''' " °^ ^h^'"' ^hey a day if the weather is hot and it LS;!.-.,!!'^ """ "P-^? ^ ^''^^ ^'^^ i" half condition of ripeness L'cln^^e'obsXd^^e '^XXtr''' " ''' ^^^"^ The Cooling of the Fruit. put into the cold storLe L rSmth t considerably too ripe before they were the same power to arreft the rinenS nf^ low temperature does not seem to have of pears. I had pearTn ,t ;ntn^.ol?^f "'^*°^' ^' '* ^°"^ *° ''^tard the ripening wefe put in thefw e'^pe rfeetlv oundTnf ' 0"r';,'"i*^° '"°"^hs aiZ the? the same condition became too ripe rnVlnvH? m'^- ^°'""*°^^ P"' '" ""^eV and .^8" Fahr. ^ " ^''^"*'' ^^-^^ *""^ at a temperature of 36' 0 I'liAUS. The qiiamity of pears sent over was 2,^08 cases. The cases uere ." 1' T i-^"""f ""' '''''»'""^' ^"^ J^""'"'"' ^'»' f^'it. which was Muito cxcopt.onal lak.ng the prices at which the several K>ts wcro sold 'ami aK';''f !"i;/''r' '*'"" T",f' *' "" ^'"^ ^^^^•^^'^^^' 73-^ ^^'"ts per case at C,nn,slly after tl e freight charges ,-in.I all expenses were taken off. The shippers would reahze 07 cents for that quantity of pears after allowiny for the cost of tt pack Sow^r ""' \ '^r^' '-'i '^ " '"^ ^""'^ ^'''''- ^ '^'^ ""^ '^■"•^^' ^^''^'ther your frt it- growers would he satished or xun with that i.rice for pears -(Voices " Yes yel'\ m^rLT' '1. f ''f 'i •''"'V'^"'"^^'^ '^^■" ^•'il""'-""'-^ when the liritish inarke mI:,; 1 I ? ;""' ^''""''^ f""" P*''*''-'^- ^'^'^^ »" Pe^"--^ are not alike in the Bnl.sh market: the buyers won't pay the san.e price for all pears: and tic it Cleat ikitaui. because v.mi have the verv same freight charges and the verv ^-m le tnstn-ance and other cha,ps_ to take off the low,Sice' statements of preference for any '^:tV.7:t7^l^^^^^^^ '^^-^ ^-lit, and appear^ A Delegate.-Do you know the variety Mr. VanDuzer sait? f D^'^oTf V''^^ 1;^ ""Vr" ^^"^^"^ -^ -"" "Offers, Prif p ~ ° ^."^^ ''"''^ '^ ^^^'^ ^^^""e 3"^- Keif!ers sent? four Sines ?oTr^f7-n"' '" '^-^^^^ ^^'P'"^"^' ^"^ ^h«>- -^'"e ^old at from o 47 cen s net at rrfnlv ^ ^f ''^P*^""'. P^"" '^''' '^^' '""^^^ bring from S England ^' ' '' ''"' "' '''" ''"^' ^"''^" '^'' P"*^^ was lowest i? Mr GREGORY.-That would be of 28 pounds per case"- Frof. Robertson.— About that. of pea?i ^''^™--^''^ ^^^ t° understand that there is no preference for any variety ™ucif^t^DSSrS^fi^---srinhf^!^ a^rth^^;^trflS:?^;^s"cotirer^^^^^^ CreaJl^S^y- -^t^r- --^ ^ ca. of pears m Extracts from Letters— CowfiHw^rf. Peaches. '^PeifrturiTnn^- '^''^'''- ^'■°." ^f"^"-^ ^" ''^'^ '^ peaches :- EldenSe^^^^^^^^^ ?o^m;re^rr"ott::^.^' "' ^ ^^^ ^ ^^ - ^fe^,T"^"' ^"^ u*^''^^" ^* ^'■""^ 36 to' 38 degrees. The second savs- decay-some of the paper wrapping being qni'e",!"!'" """''■"' '''«'> ^^^tens 14 ■ 4th J oSL-^'^iv'U" '"^ """^'" '' '" ' '''''' ^"-^"^ ^Id--' ^-"P^ter & Co. these goods, and we undersfanrl h.. ; ■ . i ■ i^^^"^^' ^^""^ ^^r. Grindley has seen /hen on 4i> Orbe^Jhe ste^ £^S"' ^° ^^^^ '"^"'^"^ °^ ''^^■"■" these '^':t!L7wnl"";ethS'' '"'"' '^'" T anticipated, but since selling to be returneH tL, f \ ^ numerous complaints with inquiries for money words Tamely" ^l r'h"^ ^'"'V",' •^?'^'*'°" ^^ich we are unable to pm into advise t inicker^no S ^""^ absolutely useless for dessert fruit. We wou d and picked green so th- thev pT^ "' ^''u '^°''" P^^^^'^ ^'^P^^^ i" wool, makeagoodTarkenJen ^ "P'" °" '^' ^^^"^^ ^^ ^'^ '^'^ we should storale'UTrn'a'v'mfratSl'lte '"Vf'^' "T'' f' ''''' ''''^""^'^ -' - -'^ right, but those that UP. nf The pea<:hes I put in cold storage kept all tL difficuUvTs toSt I pS rt"\ Hf""', '"^ ^"' ^'T^^ ^"'^^ ^^^^^l^^^- ment. ' ^ peaclies ju.t at the right condition of ripeness for ship- Then there is a remark about plums: ripe WesTn'^o,'" ''r'-''''* condition, they being picked when a little ^oo. npe. Apples m good condition, the packages are too small to pay for voyage." Grapes. The quotations I have next are about grapes trom Mr. Grindley, Oct. 7th- conditiolrir^htirlli^pelctrandC/r^''^ times regarding the unsatisfactory Then on October i8th : window)*^"choke^;SoZ''X/'S^'"'" iT^ """^^ °"'- ^^P^ (-"-^ - but they sold some as cSrnians "' '"' "^^'^^^ ^^'"^^' ' ^"^^'^" ^'"^P^^ of Blpz^ ^ 'si:^t^^ " ^^^°"" '- '' *^ -^^^-^- Mr. GREGORY.-What were the varieties of grapes shipped? Prof ROBEHTS^^^T," \'T"'T Z' r'"" *= Srapes sold for per pound? packages ''' '^'° '^^"P"^""^^ "^ "^^•^'°" ^° t^^« 1°^^ of the fruit^nd tlJe lo Mr GKEGOKv.-Was that in the same market? would'not burth?m''-^h ^' ''"'' '"''■'^^^- ^^''' '^'' '^^ ft'-^t shipments thev irapes Thev vver?;n7 m ''"', "°' '">' ^^'"P^^'"' ^« ^o the condition of the fterSs ^ "°' '"'•'•'^■'^ ""^ '"^^ ^'^ °"^ '^f -condition by falling off the The PRESiDENT.-Simply they did not like them? cheap ■ ^°^^«^^°^-They did not like them, and other grapes were very says:^''' "'''' "'"'"""' '" ''^"'^ '" ^""^P^^ '^ ^•■°'" Glasgow, in which the salesman flavour^XhTw^».'^''"'"V°r'u''' ^^' ^"'■y ^^°^ °" ^^^'^^""t of the peculiar mg and three pence. Twenty-eight other cases of Lindley were "old for for shilhngs and four pence. Niagara grapes were sold for from two shTlin£ down to eigh pence per case; thirteen boxes of Red Rogers were Told for forflih'^ St ?e cr TL:s"e' """ f^^.^-' '''A''' Rogers^vere sold for fiTe sTiUi g ";;: eight pence These were all sold m Glasgow. The grapes which were sent u> Bristol in the last two shipments were simply given away And Tomatoes. Another extract from Elder, Dempster & Co.'s letter- As we have previously told you the grapes and tomatoes are useless to ms amPvvx are bound to claim from you any money which may be dvie for freight on NovSberSJi:;^i;^i!rs^s-.^'"'^^^' ''- ^^^-^ ^^ ^'^ ^^p^^--^- ^^-^ .roujsti|o:^r.^.Sr^i-t^^^^ -^ '-^ -^ the frdt'aTestToctfbeM^^^^ "°" ^^ ''' ""^^^°^^ ^^^ '"^b-^- ^hen from " We are not satisfied by your putting these goods in cold storage a. th^ low temperature is detrimental to the shipn^ent, esplially for peacts fnd toma . " .'^°5"?toes.— These have deteriorated considerably, as have oeaches owin^ ustLs^?rm'°^tvrT' r - '--,'-d conti^'u:? XEtfromT:? c stomers of them. When they have been placed on show they melt into water and 24 hours after being bought they are in a useless conditiomand we S TheTf 1'^ r,"''"^ 'T' '' '■^^"'■" ^he money that was made at safe." ^Ihen from Glasgow there comes the report: "Tomatoes.—There was no great demand for these on account of the cold weather and the plentiful supply of local grown fruit." 16 ^ iJELEGAia.— How would quinces be? .imef ;;^fng X™ V° ""■ "' """ *"" ^"'^""'^^ ^ng sold »eU and some- good^^r"""'""'' "'"■' ""^ P™*^'^' "' P""'"« Pl"™» on .hat market in we might have a « Snap Se, ™ccaS^Sn!% ^ *"" '" "'°^' '"=""• ' *ink Pro^'S^RS^rUVh'' ■"'?"°f •"' '°'^ ^'°"«« °" 'he ships? .empSrf of 36't„ 4? Fahr'"' ^''"^""'i"" ''>■ 'h' "^e of ammonia to a there'i^°goJJ"hap7?°° '^""°""'' ""''"■ '°"'"<^' P'""» ""> Peaches reach fot,r^;iv^;erh°eUl;:^";at fstct 'ofi^ Thr ^-r^r-' n " s:si i„"^o?e ';^ar'^";j;t^ tr.:^S- ^^^^^^^^^^ .u,^^he.havegLei„t^5--^hrr;^J%^^^^^^^^ Prnf^p''^'""""^''^ they done anything with tomatoes and grapes? .|.ei^Jts''h^e^S7J„std^::;h1:i'°™'°"■ ™'^ ■'-»'* ^-p- fa- SSltF^f ^'7 --rxi^ r tiroSf s profit' ^ ^" ^''" "°' '"'^' '^'^^"'^^ °^ g^^"'"& a demand for our plums at I With iegard to peaches it does not seem to me that we can exoert ;, nrnfif,Ki. trade m exportmg peaches from Canada to Britain .b7mrans of cokT.tn?/^^^^^ shipped? ~^°"'^ ^°" ^'^' "^ ^^^^ "^^"^'^ i" ^hich the peaches were September.^°'''^'^''~^ '^'"'^ ''^' ^'"^^, ^'^^P'"^"* «^ ^'•"^^ ^«"t out on the 7th Th?llf^''''^"~°%r" ^'''''^ '^ ^"-^ ^"^^'•t peaches were shipped? 1 he Secretary.— There were a few Prof. RoBERTsoK.-Through Mr. Woolverton's own enterprise ^o case, of Su-^SesTfi'^hrpStTosi''" '"""'■ -^ '-y -p°-5 S:^z:l 17 • General Conclusions. My conclusions so far as they can be stated with any satisfaction to mvsel£ with some sense of the responsibihty under which I say tLm is thrcLS may have a continuously growing trade in the exportation o^ pea stlS a ve?v large trade in the tender sorts of apples can be developed by^shippie in 3 ?rnm^,h'-'^'' '\''' '' " ^'^^''^ °^ ^^"'"^ ^ '^^^^ that m^- llave f £g p ofi from shippmg tomatoes; that there is no likelihood of making a success of send ing over Crawford peaches; and that as the demand for CanaLn grapes does no ZtlV' ' "^TT" 'l^' <^°'''^idered whether it would pav us tofSd about onc^ Si CM J^^^ ° K°" • ^^'' ?""' '° ^""her try to create a demand. Other end r fruits such as raspberries and currants and things of that kind could onlv I th nt ableTul'"°f»: P'^'^'"'^'^ '" '^^ ^°^"^ °f P"^P= ^"d ^h-t ma'or may not be P "fit: for ti. t7/,' ^ ''''■"u^ °' ^ ^^'^^ """P °^ these small fruits in Great BriSn in nrnV. •^'■- V'^ 7°P ^^''' '' '^'■^^ ^^'- P"''^ Soes so low that there would be no profit m sendmg them over from here The SECRETARY.-Why could not Crawford peaches be sent in pulp? f T« t^ /;, f ''°''r;^''u P?! ^^ "" ^'■"■' P^'P- ^^^^Pt raspberry pulp, is fronv irt A fvf ^?u- ^ '^°"''' 'f ^^^y ^°"'d t^ke anything but raspberry iulp a first and other hmgs would have to create a demand for themselves Mi2z ^anZ'f'"' ^"-^'-^ °VI?' '°^*^°^ P'-^P^""^' «'^ <=°«t °^ package of ransporta irucTrroprt?pro'vid"e1t^''"' ^'^^^ ^°"^' '' ^"^'^'^ '^^ ^^ ^^^ ^-^^ - for ^pe^rnrpi;;^'^''' '' ^'^ ^'"^^ P^*" ^°" ^^'^ ^--PO'-tation and for freight' hnnH^'?" ^°^^J^TSON.-The freights from Grimsby to Montreal are 33 cents per Stv1oCe"n1vfi ^\^^''^^' °? '^' ^l!!P >« by measurement, ufuaUy ron twenty to twenty-five shillmgs per forty cubic feet in cold storage. The total ex- Mr. Gregory.— Per case of 28 pounds? Prof. Robertson.— Yes; that was the whole expense,— transportation and dock dues and everything on the other side, excepting the item orcommrss?on which was only three per cent on these shipments. commission, h« W P^ff^°^-^J-^ow, I am sure that the time the Professor has taken up Wh.T, ''^" • "•"! •"^l^d.and before we take up the next subject, which we aX^^L^^y^u^wl^htVs^ ''' '''''''' ^'" '' ^^^" °^ -^'"^ ^b; Profess.. 0..1 ^ll ^^^'^'''' (Craighurst).-There is more profit in the growing of earlv apples than m any c er crop if you can get a market for them Butfhey come V ^ -n "^'^^'^ '^ '^ very hot. Does he find the tender variety of apples on the other side detenorate very fast ? That is what the cdmmission men tell us the v are tiying to discourage the shipment of apples in cold storage Prof. Robertson.— The reports I have are that when apples are taken out of CO d storage m warm weather, moisture forms on them and that causes them to deteriorate^ Without cold storage they cannot be sent at all. A Montreal Thin per shipped Duchess without cold storage and they were a complete loss ^ ^ The Rev. W. Wye Smith.- Would the Professor tell us whether the Cana lan manufacturers have any good prospects for canned fruits in the old countrv > Prof. R0BERTSON.--I saw a good many samples of Canadian canned fruits in Britain. I spoke of them as favourably as I could at the Boards of Trade when 1 met merchants ; and I examined some cans in the hands of merchants there, who said they were pleased with them. I think that is a growing trade 18 those Lade inTr a' u TI e cos of Z "l^ '''"'/?"' ^^'"^^ ^'^ ^°'"P^'^ -it!. ai^sblld to4e fheroSth" "'"^l " T"^'^^'- with shipping barrel they sl,ouIdTput in okl st™ ^- "■' 'r"""? °f ''^''' ^""^^^ ^"^ P"^ '" t TRANSATLANTIC TRANSPORTATION. tio„;ui.inrft"vTurbtVe;i%rat "LHu;^ '" '^^ ^'"^ °^ ^--p-^- so much to do. Professor Robertfon 1 M .^ '^ "^ "°^'' ^"^ ^^ y°" have had you to open th; discSn and £0 he ""^"^P^J^t.'"" oi fruit, I would a.k subject viill be gladly heard ^'^ '^'"'■°"' °^ 'P'^'^'"^ °" that gestiv';tfdSc°"^.^:;.tii^^^^^ ^^.^^ -b;.ct will be rather .ug- Ripening of apples goes on onfyrhen the ?fuit'i'.'C', "'f '"°■^^"'^'^'>' '^ '■°'^- perature. If the ten^perature Se^ut Iwn low-^^^^^^ ^^^^h tem- process practically stops. Now unle.. .nm« 2 f ^1 ^ Fahr.— the ripening the temperature, "the ripeninrDrocess I. "^^^"l^^, '"^^"s are taken to reduce heat and. therefore, mars'tle^e^^f^g^ron'' s?ilf fSer"7'd?i ''ZV''^'''''' of the mam uses of cold storage until T l^frn^i m • " \ ^'^ "^^ ^"°w one in the convention that the cat^^of tl/e e^ r"nc ea^br^^^^^^^ •"" T ""'^'^ ''''' able to the actual presence of the Devil fn fU f •? fr ^^""l '" ^PP'^^ ^^s trace- to see that the Devil himself accustomLtn. "''• /^^"^hter.) Then I began ing in a very cold room (LauglUe?T """'"' ^ ' '°"''' ""' ^° ^" ^°^^^- also.''(Lr4™"~'°"' °' ''' '^°""'"'°" "^" ^>^°"'d be put in cold storage the^?4ofXTv1iTn^lire7ptlfrn T"'^ -"-'^ ^estrov highest use of human talent AddL 1^ rSn" ^^'""■'' T^^ '^ ^^'^ to be the be a chance for letting the heat YhTti ZnSZ"!^ "^^ "'"'"'.' ^]'^'' ^"^ there must ping the production oi heat ^^"^'•ated escape and also a means of stop- soon?s"hl"lX";^^^^^^^^^ ^T ^° ^^^°- 5o» I^^hr. just as he cooled down as l^as /o^^at ^arsoon n^^ '\' ''T' '?^ *h^" ^^ey should even the very earliest ripening sor'; couW be ln7i^' ""n"' '^'^'- ^^ '^'^' "^^^"^ condition. Now, if they are Putin bar Ju"^^^^^ 'f ?'^ '" ^''^^ Britain in first-rate will get up to 70° Fa?r n tSe centre o the ba!?rS^- ^"^l ^"^.^^^^ed up close thev in the hold of 'the ship, the who f ^ac gets Sot'ro^tahV'"''- ? '''''• ^" P"^ then the apples arrive as "wets" and "slacks" ^ """^ ^'"'^' ^"^^ age l^M^^'r^slVLnlAT, JhThalfXtrnt ''\'''' l^' ^^"^ '^'^ ^^^ ^^or- " barrel at the same time. There is no wav Z^l • '" u°'^ '^^"^^ '''^^d ^^"^ S^- a except in cold storage. olhervarietL'of'apUs ^ ^^ ^T'" ^.f^'^^ holds. ippies can De earned in cool ventilated Our large apple trade, to say nothing of the tender anH «ri • • 19 It- til lie ig a a le graded and properly packed and safely carried. Xow, the uradiiitr and uackin-r I. wm n.^ T ^""''''^ '" ^''*-' I^-'^'- J"*^' ^ ^vord in regard to LM-adinL iLnVY 7 '"^'V^''" Srov^' Wlos to .ort out all the sniall inis-shapen ami blemished apples and , lot to try to sell them in barrels mixed with goo 1 apples ,mr cularly . for the British market. Half a barrel of good applts wetl scK^^^^^ apir u?us';:^lf': f T'f "'" '^'l' •"^^'•^" "^'^"'^>' ^^^^^ "^'^ - barrel o goo [ S 'i^ . f ^"""^1 "^ 1''^'"" ^W^'"; ^"'^ '•''-' '^■^Pe'ise of carrying the puo- apples has to be charged against the price of the good apples To pro ect oi- th 'v' mul^o 'n" '" ''' ^""^ "^^ °^ """"^'"^ the^^rowirftJ a rX ion that possible wav T ?h '"^ """" 'n i'^'^'^'''^! ^^^^ ^^nless he does so in the best cutt n^ nff H, / . ^'•^^••^^"ovv the other practice to prevail they are simply cutting od the bes market; because the British public won't pav the price for mixed apples that they will pay for graded apples in line condition: ^ h..a,: t ^'^ merchant sells on commission, and he says: "Send in barrel." toTv'Iln' '"\ fl "'^'" '" ^fV'^' ^'^^" '" ^^^''' ^"^ the commercial man of to-day does not take any trouble if he can help it. xNow. I would send appio across in bushel boxes and let the commission 'man fume for a while iwhie ago they said: "You can't send any eggs here except in large cases." Now The me^^We'cairsIrr '^^nT' ^'f '^'',''''' '" "^^ ^^'^''- R^^^'' "^erSs tei me. We can sell a small box of apples when we could not sell a barrel " It wou d pay a locality to have a cold storage into which the ppls would go fo vS/T ^he Government, have engaged this autumn to put in what [hey ca 1 ventilated coo storage m the ships; and late fall and winter apples will go bet^e Z"S T '".r''^ ^T'^'- V' P"""^'^^^ '^>' ^ d"'^^ t° ^^"-O fresh oM afr to the hold where the apples are. There is a cowl on top to catch the wind An other duct leads from the top of the hold to allow the warm a r to esclpe and a an hastens it out. That makes a nice cool draught through Jhe hold and alFowt the heat to escape. I think the apples should be foiled at d e tart ng point hen carried in cool cars and in ventilated places on the steamships. ^^ ^ ' Prof T?nS7r=y?"^'^i','?"'' '•f °"J'"endations apply to all varieties of apples? U .n^f i' 5°^^\^so^-.-A 1 apples that are moved in hot weather. If every apple ;iaT;iXefto E^glanJ'^^^' ' '-''' ^^^ ^^ ^ "^'^ ^^^ ^^P^^ t^ KL^.?-n ^"^^°lf?d London; Thomsons to London; the Donald on'' to Glasgow; the Dominion Line to Liverpool, and others;. There are several biL^ ines out of Montreal arranging to have them for the carriage of app es wftho U hem apples and cheese were being carried in sucii had condition diat the trade was being impenlled^ I think if the Fruit-Gvowers' Association of Ontario and the fruit-growers of Canada do not take hold of this transportation problem and bring about better methods and facilities they may as well go out of 5ie buless The fruit-growing has been done fairly well; but there has been so much loss an 1 damage and dissatisfaction from the spoiling of fruit on the wav to the market. coJrect'ed'"' '^'^" "" ^''^* *^ '^^"^'' """'^ ^^ '^^^^"^ ^°''' ""^ ^"^ ^ It would pay every fruit-growing locality to have a special cold storage build- ing and a special agent to look after the isportation A. H. Pettit.— I would like to ask wnat is the prospect of caoaritv Jn mhl storage on board our steamships? A great many want to know if it is probable there is space for them to ship? proiwuiL 20 Prof. Robertson.— I am not able to answer the question just yet, because negotiations are pendnig for an enlargement of the cold storage space in the ships that now have it, and the putting of it in the new steamships that are coming out. IJuring last season the cold storage chambers were filled from about the '•nd of August. The applications for room in them were greater than the capacity of the cold storage about the first week of September. The steamship companies are now ofTenng to put m larger cold storage compartments on certain conditions but the negotiations are not yet carried to a conclusion. The probability is that there will be enough cold storage accommodation next year for all the tender fruits that are ready to go. and better ventilated cool storage space for some varieties* of apples that arc half way between the very tender ones and the fall ones. t*