< Columbia @olU0* in tire ©it# of Uttfnt SlorU / * t I * V Digitized by the Internet Archive in 2019 with funding from BHL-SIL-FEDLINK LIBRARY NEW YORK BOTANICAL GARDEN * https://archive.org/details/proceedingsofann7189unse Dudley W. Adams, President Florida State Horticultural Society. I 4Lle_£'x‘i So- FLORIDA STATE HORTICULTURAL SOCIETY. Y LIBRARY NEW YORK botanical GARDEN Page. Letter of Transmittal . iv Constitution . vi Officers, including Standing and Special Committees . vii List of Members, Honorary, Life and Annual . x Prefatory Note . xv Synopsis of Proceedings . 1 Address of Welcome . 5 Response to Address of Welcome . 6 President’s Annual Address . 9 Reports of the Secretary and the Treasurer . 14 Cataloguing Our Fruits . 16 Florida and Texas . 17 The Introduction of New Fruits and Plants . 23 Grape Growing for Profit . 25 Marketing Grapes . 27 Discussion on Grapes . 28 Pineapples . 35 The Kaki (Japan Persimmon) . 40 Peaches and Plums . 44 Discussion on Peaches and Plums . 48 Pears . 52 Strawberries . . . 57 Varieties of Oranges, and Their Derivation . 59 Results in Crossing Navel Oranges . 62 Experiments in Crossing Citrus Fruits. ^ . 64 Discussion on Citrus Fruits- . 65 Diseases and Insects of Citrus . 66 Sulphur Solution — Blight — Lemon Scab . 71 The “White Fly” and “Sooty Mould” . 74 Discussion on Citrus Insects and Insecticides. . 79 Truck Farming . 84 Discussion on Vegetables . 86 The Best Lawn Grass for Florida . 90 Injurious Insects . 94 Discussion on Injurious Insects . 99 Fertilizing Orange Groves . 103 Fertilizers and Fertilizing Materials . 104 Discussion on Fertilizers . 117 Irrigation in Florida . 130 Marketing Oranges . 140 Transportation . 143 Place of Next Meeting . 151 Resolutions of Thanks . 153 Contents. g XT. VI SEVENTH ANNUAL MEETING OF THE Constitution. Article 1. This organization shall be known as the Flor¬ ida State Horticultural Society, and its object shall be the advancement of horticulture. Art. 2. Any person may become a member of the society by signing the constitution and paying one dollar. Art. 3. Its officers shall consist of a President, three Vice- Presidents, Secretary, Corresponding Secretary, Treasurer, and Executive Committee of three, who shall be elected by ballot at each annual meeting. After the first election their term of office shall begin on the 20th of May following their election. Art. 4. The regular annual meeting of this society shall be held on the second Tuesday in April, except when otherwise ordered by the Executive Committee. Art. 5. The duties of the President, Vice President, Secre¬ tary and Treasurer shall be such as usually devolve on those officers. The President and Secretary shall be, ex-officio, advisory members of the Executive Committee. Art. 6. The Executive Committee shall have authority to act for the society between annual meetings. Art. 1. The Constitution may be amended by a vote of two thirds of the members present. First Amendment. — Section 2, Article 2. Anyone may become a life member of this organization by the payment of the sum of ten dollars to the society. “The annual dues of members shall be one dollar.” FLORIDA STATE HORTICULTURAL SOCIETY. vil OFFICERS OF THE 1894-95. PRESIDENT. Dudley W. Adams, Tangerine. VICE-PRESIDENTS. G. L. Taber, Glen St. Mary. G. W. Mellish, DeFuniak Springs. O. P. Rooks, Fruitland Park. SECRETARY. A. H. Manville, Glen St. Mary. CORRESPONDING SECRETARY. E. O. Painter, DeLand. TREASURER. J. B. Anderson, San Mateo. EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE. Lyman Phelps, Sanford, Chairman; Ch F. As Bielby, DeLand; E. S. Hubbard, Federal Point. President and Secretary, ex-officio. SEVENTH ANNUAL MEETING OP THE VIII Standing Committees. Committee on Cataloguing the Fruits of Florida: A. H. Man- ville, Glen St. Mary; L. W. Plank, DeFuniak Springs; O. L. Taber, Glen St. Mary; Jas. H. White, Georgiana; R. D. Hoyt, Seven Oaks. Committee on the Introduction of New Fruits and Plants : S. S. Harvey, Molino; W. T. Swingle, Eustis; H. S. Williams, Rock Ledge; G. L. Taber, Glen St. Mary; G. P. Healy, Jaffery. Committee on Citrus Fruits: H. S. Wiiliams, Rock Ledge; A. L. Duncan, Dunedin; W. A. Cooper, Orlando. Committee on Grapes: Emile Dubois, Tallahassee; Frank E. Boncher, Orlando; H. P. Walker, Auburndale. Committee on Peaches and Plums: L. W. Plank, DeFuniak Springs; Edward Winter, Zellwood; Irving Keck, Bowling Green. Committee on Pears and Apples : S. S. Harvey, Molino; S. H. Gaitskill, McIntosh; J. D. Andrews, Glen St. Mary. Committee on Figs: W. D. Griffing, Macclenny; L. H. Arm¬ strong, St. Nicholas; J. A. Moore. Pensacola. Committee on Tropical Fruits : Thomas E. Richards, Eden; O. R. Thatcher, Avon Park; O. K. Wood, Cocoa. Committee on Kaki: F. E. Fuller, Okahumpka; H. F. Stewart, Daytona; A. S. J. McKinney, Stanton. Committee on Strawberries and Miscellaneous Fruits: E. G. Hill, Lawtey; James Mott, Orlando; C. II. Newell, DeFu¬ niak Springs. Committee on Native Fruits: W. H. Mann, Mannville; Young G. Lee, St. Petersburg; A. W. Stewart, Galt. Committee on Ornamentals : Mrs. W. H. H. Holdridge, Grove Park; A. V. Ciubbs, Pensacola; Mrs. S. A. Cunningham, Altoona. Committee on Nomenclature: John Fabyan, Conant; E. S. Hubbard, Federal Point. FLORIDA STATE HORTICULTURAL SOCIETY. IX C ommittee on Vegetables : Geo. H. Wood, Tangerine; W. K. Jackson, Inverness; Albert Fries, St. Nicholas. Committee on Entomology : P. H. Rolfs, Lake City; W. T. Swingle, Eustis; J. F. Stubbs, DeFuniak Springs. Committee on Fertilizers : Stephen Powers, Lawtey; O. P. Rooks, Fruitland Park; Lucius D. Stebbins, Orlando. % Committee on Irrigation : Geo. H. Wright, Orlando; Geo. W. Adams, Thonotosassa; H. W. 0. Margary, Eustis. Committee on Diseases and Insects of Citrus: H. J. Webber, Eustis; F. G. Sampson, Boardman; C. A. Bacon, Ormond. Committee on Marketing : Thos. Hind, Georgetown; W. S. Hart, Hawks Park; M. W. Bennett, Okahumpka. Commiitee on Transportation : G. P. Healy, Jaffery; T. A. Darby, San Mateo; W. J. Borden, Oxford. Special Committees. Committee on Legislative Appropriation : S. S. Harvey, Mo- lino; G. P. Healy, Jaffery; Emile Dubois, Tallahassee. Committee on Joint Session , Texas and Florida State Horti¬ cultural Societies : G. L. Taber, Glen St. Mary; Geo. H. Wright, Orlando; G. W. Mellish, DeFuniak Springs. Committee on Investigation of Legislation Designed to Pre¬ vent the Introduction of Diseases and Insects: J. F. Stubbs, DeFuniak Springs; P. H. Rolfs, Lake City; H. J. Webber, Eustis. X SEVENTH ANNUAL MEETING OF THE List of Members. Honorary. Berckmans, P. J., Augusta, Ga., | Redmond, D., St. Nicholas- Life. Healy, G. P., Jatfery, Manville, A. H., Glen St. Mary, Hart, W. S., Hawks Park, Taber, G. L., Glen St. Mary, Painter, E. O., DeLand, Harvey, S. S., Molino, Richards, Thos. E., Eden,.. Phelps, Lyman, Sanford, Gaitskill, S. H., McIntosh, Conner, W. E., 532 Madison ave^ New York City Bielby, C. F. A., DeLand. Annual. Adams, Dudley W., Tangerine, Anderson, J. B., San Mateo, Armstrong, L. H., St. Nicholas, Anderson, John, Ormond, Adams, C. G., Sorrento, Amsden, E. W , Ormond, Allen, G. M., Oak Hill, Bailey, Geo. M., Orlando, Batterson, N. D., St. Augustine, Bacon, C. A., Ormond, Bean, E., Jacksonville, Bradford, John, Bradfordville, Brown, A. F., San Mateo, Bradt, Benj. N., Huntington, Andrews, J. D., Glen St. Mary, Andrews, Mrs. K. A. .Glen St. Mary Adams, Geo. W., Thonotosassa, Adams, S C., Ponce de Leon, Avery, Dr. A. G., Orlando, Allsop, W., Weirsdale. Bradt, Mrs.Benj.N., Huntington,. Brown, A. H., Belleview, Brown, C. W., Huntington, Burgess, J. E., Grove Park, Boncher, Frank H., Orlando, Bosanquet, Louis, Fruitland Park. Burr, R. H., Winter Haven, FLORIDA STATE HORTICULTURAL SOCIETY XI Bostrom, J. A., Ormond, Bostrom, Charles, Ormond, Blood Edwin, Newburyport Mass Bartlett, Geo. T., San Antonio, Texas, Brooker, Hy. Spencer, Ocoee, Burns, Dennis, Pensacola, Boring, J. W., Citra, Blake, Ellis, Lake Helen, Brady, A., Mims, Burgwin, H. P., Zell wood, Boone, C. A., Orlando, Baker, Chas. Henry, Grasmere, Bitting, A. W., Lake City, Beers, Jno. J., Emporia, Buffum, F. C., Stanton, Ballard, James C., Lake City, Crane, A. H., Nashua, Chase, J. C., Sanford, Crosby, O. M., Avon Park, Corrigan, J. F., St. Leo, Cunningham, S. A., Altoona, Cunningham, Mrs. S. A., Altoona, Cooper, W. A., Orlando, Carnell, James, Ormond. Campbell, Geo. C., Merrimack, Cronise, C. T., Pensacola, Clubbs, A. V., Pensacola, Culley, J. F., Chuluota, Curtis, C. H., Astor, Caldwell, C. E., Melrose, Chapman, J. T., Plymouth, Clark, E. L., Long wood, Carey, A. H., Winter Park, Duncan, A L., Dunedin, Dupee, Henry H., Paola, Dreka, G. A., DeLand, DeLong, Dr. W. H., Emporia, Dickson, Sam C., Longwood, Elliott, D. H., Sanford. Emmons, W.A , St. Andrews Bay Foster, Dr. Henry, Oviedo, Fries, Albert, St. Nicholas, Flye, James, Haines City, Fabyan, John, Conant, Friedlander, H., Tnterlachen, Forrest, W. H., Citadel Hill, Quebec, Canada, Faye, A., Faye, Branham, A. G., Orlando, Bernd, Peter, Bowling Green, Buffum, E. H., Ocala, Buffum, Mrs. E. H.,. Ocala, Buffum, Miss F. C., Ocala, Berry, Mrs. C. H., Glen St. Mary Bennett, W. M., Okahumpka, Bryant, J. M., White City, Bell, J. D., Hawthorn, Bailey, E. E., San Mateo, Bradford, Wm. A., Jacksonville, Borden, W. J., Oxford, Barksdale, H. J., Jaffery, Buell, C. M., Glenwood, Bigelow, G. W-, Bushnell, Butterweck, OttoC., Brooksville, Bush, G. G., Belleview. Clark, N. L., Bushnell, Crawshaw, J., Jr., Lawtey, Crews, D. D., Jr., Crewsville, Craver, J. C., Sutherland, Chilton, B. F., New Smyrna, Clark, J. Y., Fruitland Park, Carlton, S. J., Arcadia, Carlton, E. B., Arcadia, Cuzner, A. T., Gilmore, Correll, Adam, DeLand, Correll, Mrs. Adam, DeLand, Cook, Benj., Highland, Cogswell, John F., Clarcona, Calvin, R. W., Daytona. Cook, J. W., Okahumpka, Charentenay,Chas. de, St. Thomas Dough t, H. F., Daytona, Darby, T. A., San Mateo, Douglas, R. C., Citra, Daigre, Roman, Boardman, Dubois, Emile, Tallahassee. Edgarton, 1). M., Coquina, Earle, Wm. H., Tangerine. Frankland, A., Glen St. Mary, Fuller, F. E., Okahumpka, Fairbanks, Geo. R., Fernandina, Felt, J. P., Emporia, Froscher, Andrew, Titusville, Foster, E. K., Sanford, Felderhof,E., South Dennis. Mass SEVENTH ANNUAL MEETING OF THE • • XII Gillen, Dr. H. H., DeLand, Gaines, J. B., Leesburg, Godbey, T. K., Waldo, Gould, P. L., Eustis, Griggs, Chas. D., Plymouth, Grus, Wm., 113 Dearborn Street Chicago, Ill. Green, S. L., Federal Point, Gusney, L. H., Merritt, Hand, H. P., Daytona, Hill, W. J., Sanford, Hamlin, Arthur G., DeLand, Hoyt, R. D., Seven Oaks, Hastings, H. G., Interlachen, Hastings, G. W., Interlachen, Hopkins, C. L,, Umatilla, Haden, A., Orlando, Haynes, L. E , Orlando, Hart, E. H., Federal Point, Hill, E. G , Lawtey, Hatch, F. W., Oak Hill, Hawks, Dr. J. M., Hawks Park, Hubbard, E. S , Federal Point, Hewett, W. C., Stanton, Holdridge, W. H H., Grove Park Hoi 1 ridge, Mrs. W. H II , “ Hammond, E C., Jaffery, Hastings, Tlios. H., Hastings, Ingall, Chas., Federal Point, Johnson, Tom, La Grange, Johnson, J. H., Ormond, Jackson, Arthur C . Palm Beach, Jackson, Mrs. Arthur (J., “ Jones, Cyrus, Bowling Green, King, J. B., Sanford, Kleinascheg, A., Sara Sota, Keck, Irving, Bowling Green, Kilkoff, Miss Eva, DeLand, Kingsbury, A. G , Winter Park. Kimball, R. J., Melrose, Lund, C. P , Daytona, Leedy, J. M . Keuka, Lipsey, L. W., Citra, Lutticliau, H . von, Earlton, Love, J. C., Leesburg, Lytle, Frank H., Stanton, Lord, H. P., Tampa, Greenleaf, D., Jacksonville, Griffing, C. M., Waycross, Ga., Gore, Mahlon, Orlando, Given, R. W., Winter Park, George, E. B., Oak Villa, Grosswendt, Mrs. M., Inverness, Grosswendt, Th.., Inverness, Griffing, W. D., Macclenny, Gillett, M. E., Weirsdale. Ilasenyager, Chas. A., Interlachen Hatch, A. L , City Point, Herff, B. von, Washington, D. C, Harvey, H. H., Seffner, Hawkins, J. K., Brunswick, Ga., Harding, J. W., Ormond, Hind, Thomas, Georgetown, Hampton, Henry ,T. , Lane Park, Hall, P. A., Glenwood, Hawkins, Chas. W., Georgetow n Harrison, T. F., Citra, Hall, F. E , Glenwood, Hill, S. B., Lake Maitland, Hillyer, Chas. V., Fernandina, Hall, S. B., San Mateo, Hardee, G. S , Rock Ledge, Hawkins, W. W. , Georgetown, Hyden, V. P., Jaffery, Higgins, C. W., Daytona. | Ingraham, J. E , St. Augustine. Johnson, W.H., Bartow, Jones, Mrs M C., Bowling Green Jackson, W. K , Inverness, Jenkins, P. L., Seville, Jones, C. J. K., DeLand. Key, A. D ., Eustis, Kirkpatrick, J. A., Pensacola, Kessler, Thos. V., Pensacola, Keown, W. J., Pom >na, Keck, Mrs. A. W., Bowling Green Lee, G. M. Montclair, Lcw;s, W. J, Man jo, Lewis, W F., Pensacola, Leslie, James H., Panasoffkee. Lee, Young G., St. Petersburg, Lancaster, G. W , DeLand, FLORIDA STATE HORTICULTURAL SOCIETY. Xlll Lutghe, Henry, New Smyrna, La Montague, I. B., Winter Park, Mead, T. L., Oviedo, Manville, Mrs. A. H., Glen St. Mary, Mo t, James, Orlando, Marsh, W. A., Orlando, Mann, W. H., Mannville, McKibbin, J. C., Ocala, Mace, J, P., Lake Helen, Moremen, M. S., Switzerland, Mahan, S. H., Island Lake, Munson, F. W. , Georgiana, McNary, Chas., Ormond, Markley, H. C., Greenville, S. C., Munson, C. D., Eustis, Moore, J. A., Pensacola, Mellish, G. W., DeFuniak Spgs. Newell, C. H., DeFuniak Spgs., Noble, Adam, Leesburg, Nevins, P. J., Merritt, Newcomb, Irving, Huntington, Oren, Wm McF., Bartow, Pierce, R. W. , Sunset Hill, Pratt, Dr. E. E., Limona, Powers, Stephen, Lawtey, Pugsley, Chas., Mannville, Peck, W. G , Winter Park, Plank, Levi W., DeFuniak Spgs. Porter, Miss Irma H., Citra. Pugsley, M., Woodbine, Perry, D. W., Pomona, Regan, J E., Pensacola, Rogers, J. Thos., Drayton Island Richmond, J. F., Okahumpka, Reed, W. F.. Drayton Island, Rooks, O. P., Fruitland Park, Rooks, W. W-, Fruitland Park, Reasoner, E N., Oneco, Rand, F. H , Sanford, Richards, A. C., Washington, D.C. Robey, Geo. W., Tampa, Rolfs, P. H , Lake City, gpencer, J. W., Pensacola, gtoddard, Henry E., Nashua, gnow, Geo. E., Eastlake, gtyles, A. F., Jacksonville, gampson, F. G , Boardman, Leri, Mrs., DeLand. Morrison, D. A., DeLand, Magruder, G. M., Oak Hill, Moore, A. D., Candler, Margary, H. W. O., Eustis, Montgomery, L., Micanopy, Marsh, Harmon W., Okahumpka McCollum, J. T., Bushnell, McGraw, B. F., Buffalo Bluff, McKinney, A. S. J., Stanton, McKinney, Mrs. A. S. J., Stanton, Miuter, Miss L. S.,San Mateo, Montgomery, Mrs. L., Micanopy, Milton, T. N., Olustee, Miner, M. M., Emporia, Mims, R. E., Bonaventure. Nairn, James, Panasoffkee, Nye, F. M., Waldo, Neher, E. J., Keuka. | Oren, Mrs. Wm. McF.. Barlow. Paine, E. T., Jacksonville, Penley, H E., Tampa. Price, Frank N.. Orlando, Prevatt, F. B , Seville, Porcher, E. P , Cocoa, Post, C. C., Halifax, Pheil, A. 0., Inverness, Patilla, J. A., Osteen. Rolfs, Mrs. P. H., Lake City, Rand, Geo. D., Winter Park, Robinson, Norman, Orlando, Russell, J. W., Daytona, Rogers, T. L., Daytona, Ross, W. M. P., Holly Hill, Robertson, W. A. R. , Inverness,. Rush, Jno. L., New Smyrna, Rogero, F. E., Armstrong, Richardson, Otis, Bronson. Sampson, Miss O. H., Boardman, Stewart, A. W. Galt, Soria, H. N. , Caryville, Stubbs, J. T., DeFuniak Springs, Stanley. Miss Mary F.,. Daytona,. XIV SEVENTH ANNUAL MEETING OF THE Swingle, W. T. , Eustis, Stillman, Joliu E., Jacksonville, Street, A. W., Ormond, Stevens, H. B., Citra, Sellner, Capt. Chas., Zell wood, Seaton, Wm., St. Thomas, Stebbins, Lucius D., Orlando, Slieimer, Mrs. F. A. W., DeLand Slayton, H. H., Glen S'. Mary, Stephenson, Henry, DeLand, Scotton, J. M., Archer. Thomasson, John, Gotha, Taber, Mrs. G. L. , Glen St. Mary, Thatcher, O. It. , Avon Park, Taber, J. O., Sanford, Taylor, Wm. A. Washington, D. C, Tiscliler, P., Jacksonville, Upham, E. S., Saugus, Mass. Van Ness , E ugene , Balt i m ore , Md , Varnum, Miss E. W., Fort Gate^ Wade, J. S., Homeland, (/ Wilson, Lorenzo A., Jacksonville Winter, Edward, Zell wood, Woodworth, N. , Welaki, Wightman, L., Orange Park, Williams, H. S.. Ro k Ledge, Wright, Geo. H., Orlando, Weld, Jno. C., Port Orange, White, Chas. W.. Citra, Whitner, J. N. , Lake City, Warr, Aaron, Georgetown, Wright, R. J., Tangerine, Wyman, A. F., Archer, Wilson, Geo. W., Ocala, White, Jas . H., Georgiana, Warner, S. C., Palatka, Westlake, J. Willis, Lake Helen, Ward (veil, W.H., Brookline, Mass Shapley, Geo., Oak Villa, Stewart, H. F. , Daytoi a, Stewart, G. G., Daytona, Stewart, W. F., Daytona, Stewart, Jno. W., Daytona, Stanton, Miss L. A., San Mateo, Suydam, G. L. , St. Nicholas, Smythe, A. W. C., Orlando, Stone, B. W., Thomasville, Ga., Sampson, Mrs. M. J., Boardman, Trowbridge, J. O., Waldo, Turner, E., Lake Maitland, Tiffin, H.J., Courtenay, Thomas, Charles, Citra, Thorp, H. H., Daytona, Tillson, Davis, Leesburg. Van Roe, J., Tampa, Varn, W. B., Bartow. Wakelin, Amos, Philadelphia, Pa. Webber, H. J., Eustis Woodbury, E. D., Da-ke, Wright, H. A., Glenw^od, Watson, Thomas C., Pensacola, Wright, H. C,, 106 E. Pratt St., Baltimore, Md. , Walker, H. P., Auburndale, Whitner, Mrs. J. N. , Lake City, Ware, William, Glenwood, Waite, F. D., Belleview, Wood, Geo. H., Tangerine, Wyckoff, John S., Citra, Wood, O. K., Cocoa, Watson, Wilbur, Stanton, Watts, S. W., DeLand, Waugh, Thos. C., St. Thomas Wilson, L. E., New Smyrna. Young, Chas. F., Orlando. FLORIDA STATE HORTICULTURAL SOCIETY. XV Prefatory Note. In compiling this report, the matter of general interest has been gathered under topical heads, preceded by a synopsis outlining the transactions of the session in proper sequence. The pith and point of lengthy discussions have been given with as little tedious detail as possible, and repetitions and irrelevant matter has been excluded, so far as this could be done without impairing the unity of the whole ; the object being, without sacrificing any essenlial feature, to make the report more convenient for reference than a simple transcript of minutes. As noted in the preface to the report for 1893, the last ses¬ sion of the legislature failed to make provision for the publi¬ cation of the annual reports of the Society. For theis suance of this report, as well as the report for last year, the Society and the public are indebted to the public spirit of Hon. L. B. Womb well, state commissioner of agriculture. Recognizing the importance of the work to the state, he has issued the re¬ ports for 1893 and 1894 as publications of his office, devolving the cost upon the revenues of the department of agriculture. This temporary arrangement, by which the state has so greatly profited through the breadth of view and insight of our present commissioner, cannot, in the nature of things, continue. The legislature should make adequate provision for the purpose. The Society’s special committee will lay this matter before the next session of that body. From this com¬ mittee’s forceful statement of the urgency and appropriate¬ ness of the legislation asked, we make the following extract : The proceedings of the annual meetings of the Florida State Horticultural Society should be issued promptly, in a style that will not suffer by comparison with the published reports of similar societies in other states, and in sufficient numbers XVI to supply members, and others interested in the vast fund of information each copy would contain. This is not a matter of interest to our membership merely,, but its importance to the state at large will be appreciated by every public spirited citizen. Such a publication would be eagerly sought, and everywhere accepted as a disinterested account of our resources and advantages, and an authentic record of the methods and progress of our horticultural in¬ dustry. In no other way could such information be so ac¬ ceptable and effectively put forth. It is important to the growth and prosperity of our state, that this work be distrib¬ uted throughout the states, and in foreign countries, and it should be issued in a form to command respect. Nearly all the states have made provision for the publica¬ tion of the proceedings of their horticultural societies ; in some, all the expenses of these organizations are defrayed from the public funds ; in one state no less than $30,000 is annually appropriated for these purposes, and several have erected substantial buildings as permanent homes for their societies. In contributing of their time, means and ability to accumulate and bring together this valuable knowledge, the members do their part. Publication and distribution should devolve upon the state. SEVENTH ANNUAL MEETING OF THE iORTICUIMAL SOCIETY. The seventh annual meeting of the Florida State Horti¬ cultural Society was held at Jacksonville upon the invitation of the Board of Trade of that city. The society convened in the rooms of the Board of Trade on Wednesday, April 10th, at 3 o’clock P. M., in accordance with the programme as published, and adjourned sine die on Friday, April 13th, at 12 o’clock noon. The attendance was large, the strong interest manifested was sustained throughout, and the work accomplished was satisfactory. Altogether it was one of the most successful meetings in the history of the society. Over 200 members were present, and there was a large outside attendance, the spacious hall being filled to overflowing at most of the sessions. The convenience of the societv and the comfort of its members were exceptionally well provided for. Mr. E. Bean, chairman of the society’s committee on local ar¬ rangements, as well as of the Board of Trade’s committee of entertainment, and his coadjutors, were congratulated on all sides upon moving everything smoothly and well, and making everybody happy. Eight sessions were held as follows : Tuesday, afternoon and evening; Wednesday, morning, afternoon, and evening; Thursday, morning and evening; Friday, morning. As usual a session was omitted, and the time devoted to social functions. Opportunity for this was given on Thursday af¬ ternoon by a steamboat excursion to the jetties at the mouth of the St. Johns river, tendered by the Board of Trade. 1 * FLORIDA STATE HORTICULTURAL SOCIETY. 1 SYNOPSIS OF PROCEEDINGS. (While the proceedings are not given in full detail below, this abstract is a complete epitome of the meeting, all its actions and events being arranged in order as they occurred. The addresses, papers, discussions, resolutions and other matters of general interest or speeial importance, are given in full under appropriate topical heads in the body of the re¬ port, and are simply noted here. Minor action and events and matters pertaining to routine business, are given in a more or less condensed form in this outline. Discussions on other subjects than horticulture, not resulting in action, and motions which failed, have been omitted, with or without mention, as their importance seemed to justify.) FIRST RAY— Afternoon— Opening- Session. 1. Call to order by President Adams. 2. Prayer, Rev. Dr. E. B. Snyder, Jacksonville. 3. Address of welcome, Hon. D. U. Fletcher, mayor. 4. Response on behalf of the society, C. F. A. Bielby. 5. President’s annual address. 6. Secretary’s report. T. Treasurer’s report. 8. Motion that all member’s tickets be countersigned by the secretary as requested by transportation lines, carried unanimously. Evening Session. 9. Call to order by the president. 10. Report of the Executive Committee. Several by-laws and an amendment to the constitution submitted and recom¬ mended by way of report. Discussed and laid upon the table. 11. Committee on Grapes called. Paper by A. W. Stew¬ art, and paper by himself read by Chairman Geo. H. Wright. Discussion on grapes. 12. Committee'on Figs called. No report. 13. Committee on Tropical Fruits called. No report. By request of the president, Thomas E. Richards addressed the society on the subject of pineapples. Discussion on pine¬ apples. 2 SEVENTH ANNUAL MEETING OF THE SECOND DAY— Morning Session. 14. Call to order by the president. 15. “Diseases and insects of citrus” substituted for “apples and pears,” and vice versa in the programme, by unanimous vote. 16. Committee on Catalogue called. Report by A. H. Manville, chairman. Catalogue committee given until next meeting to complete its report, and constituted a regular standing committee ot the society by unanimous resolution. 17. In connection with report on catalogue, address by A. H. Manville on “Horticulture in the Gulf Region,” suggest¬ ing joint meeting of the Florida and Texas Horticultural So¬ cieties. Texas State Horticultural Society invited to joint session by unanimous resolution. 18. Committee on Vegetables called. Paper read from J. A. Moore, chairman, (not present). Discussion on veg¬ etables. 19. Committee on Diseases and Insects of Citrus called. Paper submitted from W. A. Marsh, member of the com¬ mittee, who was not present. (In order to give place for the lectures of Professors Swingle and Webber, this paper was not read, but was filed for publication). Verbal report by Prof. W. T. Swingle, chairman, on “sulphur solutions*, blight* foot-rot, and lemon scab ” 20. “The White Fly or Black Smut.” Verbal presentation of the subject by Prof. H. J. Webber, in accordance with special request of the society at last meeting. Discussions on diseases and insects of citrus. 21. Excursion tendered by the Board of Trade announced* for Thursday afternoon. , Afternoon Session. 22. Call to order by the president. 23. Special Committee on Introduction of New Fruits- called. Verbal report by S. S. Harvey, chairman. Con¬ stituted a regu’ar standing committee, and members con¬ tinued for another year by unanimous vote. 24. Committee on Kaki called. No report. Discussion on kaki. 25. Committee on Fertilizers called. Paper read by B. N. Bradt, chairman. Paper (prepared at the request of the society) read by E. O. Painter. Discussion on fertilizers. Evening Session. 26. Call to order by the president. 27. Election of officers. Result as follows : President, Dudley W. Adams; First Vice-President, George L. Taber;, FLORIDA STATE HORTICULTURAL SOCIETY. 3 Second Vice-President, J. W. Mellish; Third Vice-President, O. P. Rooks; Secretary, A. H. Manville; Corresponding Secretary, E. O. Painter; Treasurer, J. B. Anderson; Ex¬ ecutive Committee, Lyman Phelps, C. F. A. Bielby, E. S. Hubbard. 28. Committee on Transportation called. Verbal report by G. P. Healy, chairman. Discussion on transportation. THIRD DAY— Morning Session. 29. Call to order by the president. 30. Report of the Executive Committee on Constitution and By-Laws taken from the table. Amendment to the constitution passed unanimously. (See constitution). By¬ laws referred back to the committee. 31. Place of next meeting taken up. Invitation from Board of Trade to hold next meeting in Jacksonville read. A. G. Avery and W. A. Cooper of Orlando, placed the latter place also in the field. Discussion. Jacksonville selected by vote. 32. Committee on Peaches and Plums called. Paper read by S. S. Harvey, chairman. Discussion on peaches and plums. 33. Communication read from Stephen Powers and C. W. DaCosta, inviting members while in the city to drop in upon the Farmer and Fruit Grower at home. 34. Committee on Strawberries called. Paper by H. E. Stoddard, chairman. (This paper which is published upon another page, was not read, Mr. Stoddard giving way to the Chairman of the Committee on Nomenclature who was obliged to leave by the next train.) 35. Committee on Nomenclature called. Paper read by E. ,-S. Hubbard, chairman. Discussion. 36. Committee on Citrus Fruits called. No report. Re¬ marks by Professors W. T. Swingle and H. J. Webber. Discussion on citrus fruits. Afternoon. The excursion was one of the most enjoyable features of the meeting. All the members went with their wives and daughters, and a goodly delegation from the Board of Trade, and their wives and daughters. From start to finish the hum of animated conversation from the groups about the decks and cabins was uninterrupted, save to catch some new point of interest pointed out by the River Improvement Trustees, or to partake of the liberal collations provided. At least no interruption worth mentioning, for the steamer was turned 4 SEVENTH ANNUAL MEETING OF THE speedily about after passing the jetties, before the heavings of the mighty deep had any very perceptible effect. Probably never before in the state did so many prominent horticulturists from so many different sections meet so many other prominent horticulturists from so many other sections. Old friendships were renewed, and new acquaintances formed. Everybody seemed to have been waiting this op¬ portunity to ask somebody else something. More than in the formal sessions the real gist of things is brought out in these familiar talks between the acts, when everybody speaks and speaks his mind. When the steamer touched her dock again, the faces plainly said they were not half through. The way the choruses of the folk-lore songs and ballads rang out in the gloaming, and the heartiness of the vote of thanks to Secretary Smith and the Board of Trade, certainly betokened that everybody had had the very best possible time. Evening Session. 37. Call to order by the president. 38. Unanimous resolutions of thanks to the State Com¬ missioner of Agriculture, Jacksonville Board of Trade, and general passenger agents of the state. 39. Committee on Marketing called. Verbal report by Thos. Hind, chairman. Discussion on marketing. FOURTH DAY— Morning Session. 40. Call to order by the president. 41. Committee on Irrigation called: Paper read by A. G. Kingsbury, chairman. 42. Vice-President Meilish called to the chair. 43. - Committee on Entomology called. Paper read by Prof. P. H. Rolfs, chairman. Discussion on entomology. 44. Committee on Ornamentals called. No report. Dis¬ cussion on the best lawn grass for Florida. 45. Committee on Apples and Pears called. No report. Discussion on pears. 46. President resumes the chair. 47. Motion by J. T. Stubbs that a committee of three be appointed to investigate and report upon legislation for the purpose of preventing the introduction of diseases and in¬ sects, as suggested by Prof. Rolf in his paper on entomology. Carried. President announced the following committee : J. T. Stubbs, P. H. Rolfs, H. J. Webber. Adjourned sine die. FLORIDA STATE HORTICULTURAL SOCIETY. 5 Address of Welcome. BY HON. D. U. FLETCHER, MAYOR OF JACKSONVILLE. “Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen — It is a pleas- ure to extend to the State Horticultural Society the cor¬ dial greeting and hospitality of the city of Jacksonville, Speaking for the government and speaking for the people, I wish it understood that there is not a city, a town, a hamlet or community in Florida which has less than our kindest feelings and best wishes; there is not an enterprise or an un¬ dertaking in the state, no matter where located, for which we do not desire every possible success and prosperity. Whether it brings grist to our mill or not, directly we re¬ alize that as Florida prospers, so must we; as developments go on in the state, the better for us; no section or community can build up to our disadvantage; no advancement can be made at our expense. This is our view. This is the view which we cultivate, and we are always glad to have with us our neighbors and friends. “At all times our gates are open wide to the citizens and well wishers of Florida. Especially is it agreeable and pleasant to have with us this society which is bent upon promoting the development of the material interests of the* state. I understand that you are very close to, indeed that you represent the most important industry in the state to¬ day, and you are here for the purpose of considering means, and methods which will advance that industry and render it more profitable. “Any association or individual who is engaged in an effort to make easier and more profitable the cultivation of the soil, deserves the encouragement and gratitude of mankind.. It is a singular thing that while more people are engaged in agriculture than in any other pursuit, doing the hardest work, they receive the least remuneration, although agriculture and horticulture are the foundation of all prosperity, and the* source of all wealth. It was wise philosophy which was ut¬ tered by the Persian king when he said that ‘the authority of the prince can only be maintained by military force, mil¬ itary force can only be maintained by taxes, all taxes must rest on agriculture, and agriculture can only flourish by the protection of justice and moderation.’ The most cruel war measure and that which accomplished the most destruction and ruin to the people, was that adopted by the Goths when 6 SEVENTH ANNUAL MEETING OF THE they deprived their captives of the right hand — the hand that guides the plow. We may bond our cities and dig out our rivers; we may pave our streets, beautify and adorn; we may erect immense buildings, and go on with great improvements; we may borrow and spend, boast and display, but no com¬ merce will float on our rivers, the owls and bats will inhabit our buildings, and serpents and toads will dwell in our streets, unless the soil is made to bring forth fruit. So I say this work needs to be made attractive, and needs to be made prof¬ itable. In Florida we have an unsurpassed climate, we have splendid natural advantages; nature has dealt bountifully with us; to render our harvests abundant and our products prof¬ itable, obstacles must be met, and difficulties overcome. It is for you to solve these problems.” Continuing, the speaker touched upon some of the more serious questions which confront the producers of this state, notably, transportation and marketing. In his opinion the legislature had made a great mistake in allowing the small appropriation asked for the Horticultural Society to fail. He believed, poor as the state was, it could afford “a few thousand dollars to assist in destroying the insects which kill the trees; in proving that new plants may be cultivated, new fruits grown; in demonstrating the value of new materials, new methods and the like.” Concluding as follows: “Now, gentlemen, wishing this society abundant success, and hoping that you will be able to accomplish much benefit to the people by your efforts and deliberations, I again extend to you a hearty and cordial welcome.” Response to the Address of Welcome, BY C. F. A. BIELBY. “Mr. President — As you have asked me in behalf of your¬ self and the society, to reply to the address of welcome which the mayor of the city has so cordially extended, I beg to say that I am more than willing to comply, because I feel a personal as well as a society pride in our being here to-day; for it is a fact, as you will perhaps remember, Mr. President, that I have always advocated that the State Horticultural Society should hold its meetings not simply to-day, but always, in this metropolitan city of the state. FLORIDA STATE HORTICULTURAL SOCIETY. 7 I have always held this because I believe it is a good thing for us to meet yearly in this city which is the gateway of entrance and exit. This is the proper place to hold our ses¬ sions, for the great trial of country life is its solitude and loneliness. One reason, if not the principal reason why our young men leave the country and go into the cities to live, is because of this loneliness; and we know that there are many who, year after year, never go outside of their county, and for them how wearisome the life of the farmer must be¬ come. Now, I maintain, that we should have an oppor¬ tunity once a year, at least, to meet in the city through whose gates the wonderful products of our farms and orchards have passed, freighted with the hopes and wishes of hearts anxious for the outcome. It has been said sometimes that Jackson¬ ville does not care for meetings of this sort; that it does not rcare to have within its borders assemblies of the nature of this society, but it has never occurred to me that we would lack a welcome, and the kind and eloquent words of the mayor show that Jacksonville is not insensible of her in¬ debtedness to those whom we represent for their part in the splendid progress which she is making. Indeed, we may judge of our success by hers, and when we look upon her new and handsome buildings, her paved streets, her deep water to the sea, her promise of improved water front, and see every¬ where the air of business activity and prosperity, we may ■properly feel that a portion of this prosperity is due to us *nd our efforts. And, this being true, it would seem that we are not so poor and so unsuccessful as some would make us appear. “I believe that one of the things we ought to do while here is to enter our protest against the idea which is so vigorously pushed that we are on the verge of disruption, so to speak, as a band of men engaged in the particular industry of fruit growing; that it is so unpromising and so fruitless that we may as well desert it at once and altogether. We believe, as I have said, that it is due in part to our efforts — and the mayor very properly admits this fact — that Jacksonville is making such rapid and marvelous improvements. If the old adage be true that when the tiller of the soil is impoverished, the marts of commerce suffer; we have here the proof that we are not in such bad shape as we are shown by some to be. We do not see any evidence of suffering in Jacksonville. On the contrary, every sign of vigorous, healthfui, prosperous and substantial growth, and from this we may take heart and go home encouraged to our work. It is an object lesson, Mr. President, for everyone, and I am sqre it will inspire us all to renewed industry. 8 SEVENTH ANNUAL MEETING OF THE “We may possibly be able to shake off the idea that the or¬ ange grower has no future in sight. I have to admit that the view at present is not so rosy as it was ten years ago, but I have to inquire also, did we not expect too much ten years ago, just as some of us to-day are prone to expect too little and to become disheartened? Was it reasonable to expect that the owner of a five acre grove ten years of age would be in affluence? Perhaps it was not unreasonable, I confess that I believed it, but if we have come out of this dream, out oi this paradise, let us not fall into the other extreme and despair of our industry. This one thing we must learn, that the men that can raise the best fruit for the least money, are the ones destined to be successful, and that it is the special, I might say the only province of this Horticultural Society, to teach men how to grow the best fruit for the least money- The orange of Florida is peerless, it stands without a rival or a second, and when I speak of the orange of Florida, I do not mean the thousands of boxes sent out annually which should go to the refuse pile, but the orange that has no ri¬ val on the face of the earth, the orange which the State Horticultural Society has been largely instrumental in mak¬ ing what it is. We talk of the climate, soil, fertilizer and all the circumstances which fit together to make orange grow¬ ing in Florida, so far as the bulk of the fruit is concerned, as successful as it is, but I have no hesitaiion in saying for our society that in the last seven years we have improved the quality, appearance and texture, and thereby raised the stan¬ dard of the Florida orange more than 25 per cent. And the men who never attend our meetings, who scarcely ever hear of u-, you meet them everywhere, and if you ask them about fertilization and orange and fruit culture, you will find that almost every one of them has picked up some portion of the methods which we have shown to be best adapted to the raising of first class fruit on all kinds of Florida soils; and now, Mr. President, when the standard of every man who raises fruit in the state of Florida shall be the ideal which this society has created, then wTe shall have gone a long way towards solving the difficult problems before us. “To j^ou, Mr. Mayor, and to those whom you represent, I beg to convey the thanks of our president and the thanks of this society for your kindly welcome, and to assure you that we appreciate the welcome and the cordiality with which your city has thrown open her gates to us.” FLORIDA STATE HORTICULTURAL SOCIETY. 9 President’s Annual Address. BY DUDLEY W. ADAMS. Ladies and Gentlemen of the Florida State Horticultural Society : For the seventh time the Florida State Horticultural So¬ ciety meets in annual convention. The augmented numbers who meet here to-day give us cheer, for they tell louder than words of the growth and extending influences of our society. We warmly greet the veterans who have been long with us in the field, and heartily welcome the recruits who swell and strengthen our hosts. It is a source of great pride to be able to say that our growth has been steady and rapid from the very first until to-day. Though one of the youngest, the Florida State Horticultural Society is one of the largest, most useful, intelligent and active societies of the kind in the United States. The work we have done we look back to with satisfaction, and the work before us we look forward to with hope, determination and confidence. When the so¬ ciety was organized, the horticulture of the state was compar¬ atively in its infancy; the orange and lemon business was just beginning to be of consequence. Florida’s peaches, pears and pomelos were practically unknown. The pineapple, straw¬ berry and grape were scarcely thought of as Florida prob¬ abilities of importance. The horticulturists of the state were mostly at work in the dark as to the best varieties, modes of planting, cultivation and fertilizing. A STRANGE SOIL AND CLIME. Of those who were engaged in horticulture in Florida at that time, some were at a strange business in a familiar soil and climate; a few more were in a familiar business in a strange soli and a strange climate; but the great majority were engaging in a strange business in a strange soil and strange climate. Of all of these was the Florida State Hor¬ ticultural Society composed at its organization. All were anxious scholars, not one was a competent teacher. We knew that the people of the United States wanted and would use fine Florida fruit, and we determined to find out how to grow it for them. To that end almost exclusively have been devoted the efforts of our society. We have counseled to¬ gether as to the soil, planting, varieties, fertilization, cultiva¬ tion, budding, pruning, etc. The progress we have made, and the success we have achieved, is evidenced by a crop this 10 SEVENTH ANNUAL MEETING OF THE year of nearly 5,000,000 boxes of oranges; pears, grapes, peaches and strawberries by the car load, and young plan¬ tations of each that in the near future will furnish train loads. That we have reached perfection in varieties and modes of •cultivation of these fruits, no one will claim. On the con¬ trary, it is plain that we are only on the threshold of eco¬ nomical, scientific, successful and practical production of fruit. But we have now reached a point where we can look ahead and with certainty see what the possibilities and prob¬ abilities of production are. We see now five million boxes of oranges, and trees enough planted that with our present knowledge will in a few years bear ten million, fifteen million, or twenty million boxes; and pears, peaches, pineapples and strawberries are coming in uncounted carloads. IS THERE OVER-PRODUCTION? This fact brings us face to face with the great problem of to-day. Our efforts at production have been so successful that we look with pride upon our magnificent crops of fruit and vegetables, and can confidently rely on rapidly increas¬ ing quantity and improved quality. Here then is the prob¬ lem. What shall we do with it. Is there an over-produc¬ tion? The five million boxes we have grown this year would only give each inhabitant of the TJniled States one orange a month. Is that too many? And yet the growers have not received from the sale of this crop the cost of its production. Acres of cabbage are rotting in our fields to-day, and millions of people are hungry for cabbage. In view of these facts, is it wise to continue to devote undivided attention to the growing of fruits and vegetables, for which we receive no fair compensation? Though I do not believe we are growiag more fruit than ought to be used under proper conditions, yet it does occur to me that we have now reached a point where we must grap¬ ple with the stubborn facts that our present production has outgrown our present means and methods of transporting, distributing and selling. It is the height of folly to go on increasing our output without at the same time providing some way to dispose of it at a profft. That thing must be done, and it will be well for this convention to give its best thoughts to a discussion of the paramount question. With this in mind, it may not be out of the way to call your atten¬ tion to some of the prominent features of the situation. As stated before, five million boxes of oranges will just about give each inhabitant of the United States one orange a month. It would seem possible that, under favorable condi- FLORIDA STATE HORTICULTURAL SOCIETY. If tions, each person could be induced to eat one orange a week and not become surfeited, and that would take twenty million boxes. Can we bring about those conditions? MUST BE SOLD CHEAP. To popularize oranges and have every one eat them freely, they must be sold to the consumer at popular prices. At fancy prices like 40 cents, 60 cents, or $1.00 per dozen, only the few can use them freely, a good many moderately, but a great many more sparingly or not at all. If the money the consumer pays for iruit could be divided among the grower, carrier and seller in fair proportion to the service rendered, this could be done. The grower has spent money, time and care, and has originated the product, yet under the present system he is the last one paid. He sends out a lot of or¬ anges; the transportation compauy takes charge of them, and when they reach their destination, the freight must be paid in full, and the drayage must be paid in lull, and then the commission for selling must paid in full. If the fruit brings too little to meet these charges, the grower is called upon to make up the deficiences, and in any event he gets only the surplus after all other charges are paid. Whether the price of fruit is high or low, win ther die grower gets anything or not, the transportation is always high, and is al¬ ways the first bill to be paid. HIGH FREIGHT RATES. Now, my fellow fruit growers, it is time for us to have something to say about this thing. The present rate of freight and this year s price of fruit, mnans absolute ruin to our industry. Last week I paid $330 freight on a car load of oranges, and the same week a neighbor offered to sell me a five-acre orange grove seven years old, in good condition, for $300. That is a startling statement. 1 give the price of a five-acre orange grove and $30 t<> have one car load of oranges carried to market ! Now we shoulo not go to the transportation companies as supplicants asking a favor, but we should go as masters of the situation and claim our rights. The average price the grower has paid for transporting this crop is not far from 65 cents per box. The average net amount recived by the grower will not exceed one-half or two-thirds of that sum. That is not right. It is not a fair divide. The business of a carrier is a legitimate and proper one, and entitled to fair compensation. So is the business of horticulture. There is no good reason why one should have all that is in it, and the other nothing. The common law recognizes the railroads as common car- 12 SEVENTH ANNUAL MEETING OP THE riers who are lawfully bound to carry goods at a fair rate. Who will decide what is a fair rate? The lawyer will an¬ swer: “The courts.” Very true. Theoretically that is cor¬ rect, but practically it is impossible. THE RIGHT OF MIGHT. The average orange grower can never reach justice thus, for he has not the sinews of war to conduct a protracted suit against a great corporation. The transportation companies assume the right to say how much they will take, and they take it. The other party to the arrangement has no voice in the matter. That is not a disinterested tribunal. Its inter¬ ests preclude the possibility of impartial judgment. There is but one way in which we can get a just and fair tribunal accessible to the poor and lowly, as well as to the rich and strong, and that is by the action of the sovereign people. This brings us to another phase of the subject, and that is the proper relationship of the horticulturists to the state and nation. In a republic, the people are not only the recipients of the benefits of good government, but in them is placed the sacred duty and responsibility of making it a good govern¬ ment. The horticulturist is no exception. He bas a right to expect of the state the protection of just laws. The state has a right to expect him to do his full share in making and enforcing the laws. Some very good men seem to think it particularly meritorious to say: “I attend strictly to my business and let politics alone.” Such men are selfish. They neglect the first sacred duty of American citizenship, and are deserving of censure. They expect the protection of the laws, and yet will not do their part in making them what they should be. Gentlemen, the laws of a state are exactly what the law¬ makers make them. If we neglect our duty and allow the laws to be made by the professional place hunter, we must ex- % pect the laws will be made to subserve his interest. If the producers and business men of the state make the laws, they will be made in accordance with their ideas of justice. If the horticulturist refuses to do his duty as a sovereign citizen, if he neglects to study public questions and act on his knowl¬ edge, his punishment will consist in having his interests ig¬ nored by those who have done their duty as responsible citi¬ zens of the republic. ASSERT YOUR RIGHTS. Here then is the plain road Instead of going to the com¬ mon carriers and begging for favors, assert your rights like men who know them, and enforce justice at the ballot box Florida state horticultural society. 13 To the practical horticulturist whose heart is in, and whose revenue depends on, his business, partisan politics is a mat¬ ter of small moment. The only use the horticulturist — the true patriot— has for any political party is as an instrument to enact into law such principles as he deems for the good of the country. If we believe that the prosperity of our state and business will be advanced by a reasonable and just control of the common carriers of the state, then we should say so in the only way we can speak with authority, or forever after hold our peace. To get together in conventions, or in pairs, or in groups, and talk and write about getting “concessions’’ from the railroads, and all that stuff is cbild-like, and p aces us in the false position of mendicants, when really we are the mas¬ ters, and ought to be taking the proper steps to secure our just rights. WANTS NO FENCES. Another thing, I have built and am now maintaining 1,950 rods of fence. For mv own use? Not at all. It is not only an expense and of no use to me, but an actual damage. It is in my way. Why did I build it and w*hy maintain it? Because the laws of the state permit my neighbors’ stock to come on my land, take my corn and oranges and oats and carry them away. If it is just for him to permit his stock to come and take my crop, why should the law prohibit him from sending his children or his servants, or coming himself and take all that is not defended bv force? Speaking for one horticulturist, I can say that I have paid more for fences than all the state, county and school taxes I have paid in Florida. What my neighbor horticulturists and I have paid for fences would buy all the stock, sheep and ra- zorbacks in the neighborhood, powder and ball enough to kill them, snd have money enough left to run a free school a good term each year. STUDY NATIONAL AFFAIRS. Then again, not only our duty as citizens, but our interests as horticulturists, require that we give thought and atten¬ tion to the affairs of the nation. It is useless for us to plant and water and manure unless we are to have the benefit of the harvest. The crop of the horticulturist is one of semi-luxury. It is one that in time of want the hard pre'Sed people can and will get along without in some sort of a way. Now, then, ours more than most lines of business, depends for its existence and prosperity on profitable employment of the whole people. That this prosperity depends largely on national enactments, 14 SEVENTH ANNUAL MEETING OF THE no one will deny. Throwing partisan politics to the winds^ the horticulturists of the state and nation should give their best thoughts to an understanding of these national issues*, and so act at the crucial time as to promote the industries and prosperity of the whole country. With just rates for transportation, with proper arrange¬ ments for distribution, with a great nation of workers and business men profitably and steadily employed for customers,, our business will be on a sound, permanent, and paying basis. Reports of Secretary and of Treasurer. (Mr. W. S. Hart, who had been secretary of the society for a number of years, resigned some time previous to the Jacksonville meeting, and Mr. Arthur H. Brown was ap¬ pointed to fill the unexpired term. Mr. Brown entered upon the duties of the office March 2,6th, 1894, continuing to dis- charge the same until the end of the official year, May 20th,. 1894, which included the society’s session at Jacksonville). Synopsis of the Report of Secretary Hart. Mr. Hart expressed his regret that imperative duties ren¬ dered it impossible for him to be present at Jacksonville or to complete his term of office. It was a source of satisfaction to him to know that the secretaryship would pass into suqh competent hands for the unexpired term. While Mr. Brown was placed at some disadvantage in undertaking the remain¬ ing work of the year, which was considerable, so suddenly and with the annual meeting so near at hand, still he felt confident the society’s interests and comfort would not suffer by the change. He reviewed the work of his office, up to the time of his res¬ ignation, at some length, referring especially to the preceding meeting, (Pensacola, April, 1893). The society’s funds were not sufficient to publish its yearly reports, heretofore this had been provided for by a guarantee fund subscribed among the membership. The effort to obtain an appropriation for this purpose at the last session of the legislature, while it had met with sufficiently favorable reception to justify the expectation of future ac¬ tion, had been unsuccessful. The offer of the Hon. L. B# FLORIDA STATE HORTICULTURAL SOCIETY. 15 Wombwell, State Commissioner of Agriculture, to issue the report as one of the publications of his office, had, however, been accepted. The funds available for this purpose did not admit of its immediate publication after the meeting, but ren¬ dered it necessary to issue the report in serial form in the “Monthly Bulletin,” issued by the Department of Agriculture, which had been done. The commissioner had subsequently gathered the matter in pamphlet form, and in conformity with the agreement with the society had sent copies to the membership. In addition to this, an edition of some 5,000 copies had been struck for free distribution through the Bureau of Immigration, and had been widely disseminated in this and other countries, which, the secretary thought would be of great benefit to the state and. the society. Mr. Hart called attention to the fact that Commissioner Wombwell’s action in offering to publish the report, had been entirely voluntary and gratuitous, and prompted by good feeling for the society, and he had no doubt it would receive a proper acknowledgement from the society. The society having been relieved of the burden of pub¬ lishing the report, it had been possib’e to meet all expenses for the current year, and leave a small balauce in the treasury. Mr. Hart explained the efforts which had been made to bring in new and desirable members, which had resulted very satisfactorily as the increased membership showed. The receipts for the year up to the time of his resignation, had been $270.39 ; the expenditure, including some debts of the previous year, amounted to $212.56, of which he remitted a statement; $50 had been submitted the treasuier, and $7.83 turned over to his successor. Synopsis of the Report of Secretary Brown. After readii g Mr. Hart’s report, Secretary Brown read his own report for the interim between Mr. Hart’s resigna¬ tion and the Jacksonville meeting. He submitted a statement of expenditure amounting to $40.50. He had received $167.49 and there remained in his hands $126.99. At the opening of the Jacksonville meeting the rolls showed eight life and two hundred and eighty-six annual members. Synopsis of the Report of J. B. Anderson, Treasurer. In submitting his statement as treasurer, Mr. Anderson said that owing to the efficient manner in which the secretary and ex-secretary had performed their duties, the treasurer’s task was very light. He had received $50 from Secretary 2 16 SEVENTH ANNUAL MEETING OF THE Hart, and a 10 per cent, dividend of $13.95 from the First National bank of Palatka, and had $63.95 on hand. He had learned from the receiver of this hank in which the society had a fund of $139.50 at the time of its failure, that as nearly as he could say there would be another dividend of 15 per cent., which would save to the society about 50 per cent, of the entire deposit. Resolution by the Executive Committee. In abridging for publication the report of Ex-Secretary Hart as read at the last meeting of the society, the secretary is instructed to place on record in this connection in the pub¬ lished report of the proceedings of the society, an expression of the high appreciation in which the services of Mr. W. S. Jffart as secretary, are held by this committee. Catalogeuing Our Reports. Report Read by A. II. Manville of Denver, Putnam County, Chairman Committee on Catalogue. At the Pensacola meeting of the society, (April, 1893), it was enacted: “That a special committee of five be appointed by the presi dent, on catalogue, whose duty it shall be to prepare a cat¬ alogue of the fruits of the state on a systematic plan, on the same general lines adopted by the American Pomological So¬ ciety, showing the relative adaptability to each section of the several fruits grown in the slate. The same to be submitted at the next annual meeting.” In conformity to the above, the following committee was appointed: A. H. Manville, L. W. Plank, G. L. Taber, J. H. White, R. D. Hoyt. The compilation of an initial catalogue of this character, having a systematic arrangement at once simple and compre¬ hensive, and possessing that accuracy of detail without which a work of this kind would be valueless, involves careful preparation, extensive correspondence and laborious collation. The magnitude of the undertaking will be appreciated by those who have assisted in the revision of the fruit catalogues Of our older societies. Your committee was unable to take up the work at a date FLORIDA STATE HORTICULTURAL SOCIETY. 17 -sufficiently early in the society’s calendar to complete a re¬ port for this meeting. Considerable progress has, however, been made. A plan has been laid out, the preliminary lists prepared, and the work of “marking up” is well under way. Had the committee been able to finish the report in time for this meeting, it would not have been practicable to pre¬ sent the draft of catalogue to the society until the tables could have been printed for the convenience of members in discussing the report. In fact, to give opportunity for due consideration, a printed copy should be sent to each member in advance of the meeting at which the subject is taken up. In view of these facts vour committee has thought best to suggest that the time for its report be extended until the next annual meeting. After the reading of the above report, the following res¬ olution was unanimously passed: That the committee be given until the next annual meeting to complete its report; and That the word “special” be stricken from the title of this committee, and the word “standing” be substituted therefor, constituting the Committee on Catalogue, one of the regular standing committees of this society. Florida and Texas. The Texas State Horticultural Society Invited to Joint Session. BY A. H. MANVILLE. The southern boundary of the United States describes a sort of ogee, with short curve around the Gulf, and long curve up the Mexican line and Pacific coast. This line is nearly 3,000 miles long from point to point, and within 150 miles of it lie the sub tropical regions of this country. But, unfortunately for our figure, this strip is not sub-tropical throughout its entire length. When we apply this test our ogee falls in two in the middle. The sub-tropical region which follows down the Pacific coast and passes the head of the Gulf of California does not reach the New Mexican line, and the sub tropical region that follows the Gulf from the Keys to Mexico, stops short at the plains of Western Texas. Separated by the arid table lands and elevated regions of 18 SEVENTH ANNUAL MEETING OF THE Western Texas and Southern New Mexico, which form the back bone of the continent where crossed by our southern boundary, our sub-tropical regions lie in two segments, one at either end of this line. I trust I shall be pardoned these allusions to trite ge¬ ographical facts, I wish to emphasize the point that our sub-tropical country is naturally and widely seperated into two great divisions. The sub-tropical region of the Pacific lying crescent shaped convex to the Western ocean, with its horns resting on the Golden Gate and the Arizona line;, and the sub-tropical region of the Gulf, likewise cresent shaped, concave to the Gulf of Mexico, and extending from Cape Sable to the Rio Grande. These two widely separated regions have much less in common than we have been wont to think, While both are sub tropical, they are at variance in topography, soil, cli¬ mate and productions. This difference is most apparent in the two extremes. California farthest west, and Florida farthest east. There the surface is broken, even moun¬ tainous, here level; their climate is unlike ours in nearly every condition, the only marked similarity being that neither is subject to very low ranges of temperature; they have weather incident to narrow strips betw< en high moun¬ tains, or between high mountains ancl the sea; our atmos¬ pheric conditions are modified by the broad expanse of water which surrounds us; their seasons are the reverse of ours,, their soils require different manipulation than ours; in hor¬ ticulture their most valued acquisitions come from Europe, ours from Eastern Asia. I will not stop to amplify these dissimilarities, which are apparent, nor to point out others that might be mentioned. Because California products have been found in a few mar¬ kets alongside of our own; because California also raises oranges; or because there, too, palm trees grow in the south¬ ernmost confines, we have fallen into the habit of measuring ourselves up by the side of California, and have come to look upon the Golden Gate as our competitor and exemplar. But, Mr. President and fellow members, I submit that the horticulture of the Pacific coast is too dissimilar to have value as a criterion, and California is too far away to become a rival. Dismissing the Pacific sub-tropical region, let us consider for a moment the othei great sub-tropical region of the United States, the Gulf coast country, of which our own state forms a part, but, let us not deceive ourselves — by no means the only important part. While we have been taken up with the California bugaboo, FLORIDA STATE HORTICULTURAL SOCIETY. 19 absorbed in measuring ourselves by standards in vogue on the other side of the continent, we have overlooked, lit¬ erally overlooked, a rival near at hand; a real rival of our own size and make-up; a rival about to finish training and likely to give us a serious contest for horticultural honors and preferment in the near future. Part of our own coast country; at the other end of this sub-tropical crescent; just across the Gulf ; I refer to coast¬ wise Texas. The surface of the country, the soil, the cli¬ mate and the horticultural productions of coastwise Texas are like those of Florida. The products of her market gar¬ dens are already well known in the great markets of the Mississippi valley; she produces the small fruits we do; the figs, pomegranates, grapes and miscellaneous fruits that we grow, succeed there; during the past few years thousands of acres of peaches, plums and pears have been planted in this Texas coast country, oriental varieties, the same as our own, from China, Japan, and the East Indies; as in Florida most of the varieties of these and similar fruits from Europe as well as those from the north, do not succeed. Put, we say complacently, “this is not an orange country.” Let us not be too sure of this. Coastwise Texas reaches far¬ ther south than Lake Worth or Punia Gorda, and its horti¬ cultural records not only report oranges yielding abun¬ dantly, but also limes, while banana culture is laid down as having already attained a commercial success. It is, in fact, a question whether in citrus culture in one respect at least, they are not in advance of us; for they are planting their or¬ ange groves on hardy, dormant-in- winter stocks, which their growers claim mature the fruit before frost, ripening it for the high prices of the early market, and rendering the trees resistant to the lowest degree of cold to which that region is liable. Their trees are reported uninjured by the un¬ usually severe cold of the past winter. This region across the Gulf is by no means of limited ex¬ tent. The sub-tropical coast country of Texas embraces an area equal to the entire peninsula of Florida. Old residenters have been developing its horticulture for years. Mr. G. Onderdonk, one of the pioneers, who began before the war, speaking way back in the eighties of Southeastern Texas, says: “Starting with only a few dimly lighted landmarks, she has beaten her toilsome way until she has a well defined horticulture.” In 1891, speaking before the Texas State Horticultural Society, he says: “Many have presumed that Southeastern Texas could produce only cacti, mesquite and thorny chaparral, but, with the array of fruit we have here, none can speak lightly of the pomology of this large area. 20 SEVENTH ANNUAL MEETING OF THE The pomology of southeastern Texas, so distinct from that of other parts of the state, has vastly outstripped the most sanguine expectations of her students of forty years ago.” Texas is about as large as New England and the Middle States, or all the cotton states east of the Mississippi river combined. In the older settled districts in the northern part of the state, fruit culture has been long established, and is about as nearly related to the pomology of the coast as the pomology of upper Georgia is to that of Florida. Less than a year ago the Texas State Horticultural Society met at Rockport, which is well down on the coast. The fruit exhibit came from the coast country. Referring to it, the leading horticultural journal of the state, the “Firm and Ranch,” says: The exhibits were the finest ever seen in the state. Attracted by its horticultural advantages, people are going, to this country for the purpose of fruit growing, new towns are springing up, land is being cleared and hundreds of or¬ chards planted. They are having such a boom over there a & we had late in the seventies. Working under conditions similar to ours, raising the same fruits for the same markets we do, these intelligent, energetic horticulturists of the Texas coast country are, not only competitors and compeers from whom we have much to fear, as well as much to learn, but, the}' are also neighbors;, for it is but a short span from the Perdido to the Sabine, and the intervening strip across lower Alabama, Mississippi and Louisiana is of the same character, part and parcel ot the sub-tropical region of the Gulf. Running over the history of horticultural progress on op¬ posite sides of the Gulf, one is struck that the lines followed are so nearly parallel. Twenty years ago our first State horticultural society was organized at Palatka, and called the Florida Fruit Growers’ Association. Its second, and perhaps most impor¬ tant meeting was held in 1875 in this city, scarce a block from this spot. The governor thought the occasion of suf¬ ficient importance to require the presence of himself and cab¬ inet, and in response to the invitation of the association, the legislature adjourned to enable its members to come down from Tallahassee and attend. There are a few, a very few persons in attendance at this meeting who will recall with* what interest we listened to the discussion on “Florida as Compared with the West,” led off by the venerable Solon. Robinson, ex-agricultural editor of the New York Tribune, Floridian by adoption, or to Col. Dane}', the pioneer orange- grower, a recognized authority, one of the few men at that time possessed of an old bearing grove, as he expatiated upon* FLORIDA STATE HORTICULTURAL SOCIETY. 21 “Orange Culture as an Investment for Capital.” Most of us were begifmers who had just finished planting our first fiye acres. A report of this meeting was issued from the press of the old “Florida Agriculturist,” then published in this city and edited by Col. Codrington. Among the names of those who participated in the proceedings, names that have a place in the history of our state, are H. S. Sanford, P„ P. Bishop, A. S. Baldwin, Columbus Drew, J. S. Adams, Harrison Heed, H. L. Hart, E. K. Foster, and “Concussion’" Hardee of “Honeymoon.” With the passing of the speculative period in orange cul¬ ture, interest in the Fruit Growers’ Association waned, and it gradually fell into innocuous desuetude. This brings us to the practical horticulture of the present. In 1886 we organized the Florida Nurseryman’s Association. The interest in the meetings of this association was so gen¬ eral that it was determined to widen its scope. In 1887 the Florida Nurseryman’s Association issued an invitation to the horticulturists of the state to join in the formation of a state horticultural society. This was accomplished in 1888 by the joint action of the Florida Nurseryman’s Association, members of the old Fruit Growers’ Association and other horticulturists. In 1889 the Florida State Horticultural Societv entertained the 22d biennial session of the American Pomological Society at Ocala. In 1892 we began the reg¬ ular publication of our proceedings, including stenogiaphic reports of the discussions. We are about to take up the work of cataloguing our fruits. In the words of President Adams, “the State Horticultural Society has steadily grown in numbers, influence and usefulness, till at the age of seven years it is the peer of similar societies in any state in the Union.” Meanwhile, what has been going on across the Gulf? In 1886 the North Texas Horticultural Sotiety^ and the Pilot Point Horticultural Society joined the Central Texas Hor¬ ticultural Society, upon the invitation of the latter, in organ¬ izing the Texas State Horticultural Society. In 1889 this society began the publication of its proceedings. In 1890 it announced that the ninth regular meeting of the American Horticultural Society would be held in Texas. The society has grown to be a large and influential body like our own, and at its next annual meeting will undertake the cat¬ aloguing of the fruits of Texas. Throughout the country wherever fruit growing has be¬ come an industry of importance, the state horticultural so¬ cieties have compiled catalogues of the fruits grown, show¬ ing by their arrangement and marking the relative adapta- 22 SEVENTH ANNUAL MEETING OF THE toility of the various varieties to the several sections, such catalogues being revised every year and published in connec¬ tion with the reports of the proceedings of the societies. These catalogues form an invaluable guide to the planter and enable even a novice to select with certainty. In this sub¬ tropical region, where selection is more difficult than else¬ where, because conditions are peculiar and the precedents of other sections are not to be depended upon, such p catalogue would be invaluable. Up to this time neither in Florida, Texas, nor the intervening states, has such a work been is¬ sued. The only information of the kind obtainable is to be found in the magnificent fruit catalogue of the American Pomo- logical society, which includes the fruits of the entire coun¬ try, but is too general, and covers too wide a range, to include the specific information required in any particular section, and especially in a section like this where fruit culture is com¬ paratively new and developing rapidly. When the general revision was made of the American Pomo- logical society’s catalogue, in 1891, the Sub-Tropical com¬ mittee of that society submitted tabulated and properly marked lists of the fruits of the Gulf coast sub-tropical region, and, as chairman of that committee, I urged the importance of giving this great section, unique and peculiar in its pomology, a sep¬ arate and distinct place in the catalogue, but the time-honored oustom of listing by stat es was adhered to, lessening the value of the work for this region, although the revision was, for this section, as elsewhere, as thorough and comprehensive as possible under the restrictions of this rule. With the sole exception of Florida, the sub-tropical regions, both of the Pacific and the Gulf, are made up of parts of states having little in common, pomologically speaking, with those portions of the same states lying outside. Hence the inapplicability to this region of fruit lists made up with re¬ gard to political rather than pomological lines, and the great importance of the work now under way in Texas and Florida. These two horticuhural communities, which have grown up during the past quarter century on opposite sides of the Gulf, and which have so many interests in common, have been, up to this time, practically speaking, strangers. Is it not time for us to get acquainted ? What better way of bringing this about than through a joint meeting of the two horticultural societies ? Aside from the pleasure such a session would afford its participants, would not the interchange of experi¬ ence and opinion elicited, especially if published, be ot great value to the horticulture of both states ? The Texas society will adopt a catalogue at its next meeting ; it is proposed to FLORIDA STATE HORTICULTURAL SOCIETY. 23 attempt a similar work at our next meeting — what better time for such a joint session than the year following the catalogu¬ ing of the fruits of both states ? At the conclusion of his remarks Mr. Manville offered the following resolution, which was unanimously adopted : Resolved, That a committee of three be appointed by the president to prepare and present to the Texas Stale Horti¬ cultural society an invitation to meet the Florida State Hor¬ ticultural society in joint session in the year 1896, and that said committee be empowered to act for the society in the matter of arranging timo, place and neeessary preliminaries for such joint session in case this invitation is accepted by the Texas society. Introduction of New Fruits and Plants. At the Pensacola meeting of the Society (April, 1893, see published report), Prof. W. T. Swingle, of the U. S. Sub- Tropical Laboratory at Eustis, Fla., urged that some steps be taken by the Society looking to the introduction of new fruits and plants. In an address of exceptional interest on this subject he pointed out the great gain that had resulted to our horticulture from the very limited importations which had been made, and called attention to the fact that hundreds of varieties and species remained to be introduced, which there was every reason to believe were especially desirable. He introduced his remarks as follows : “ The advances made during recent years in horticulture are largely due to the introduction of new varieties of culti¬ vated plants, or to the improvement of old ones by careful selection and hybridizing. When we consider the great changes the introduction of a single good variety may work in the horticulture of a whole district or state, it seems curious, to say the least, why more effort has not been made to procure all known varieties and test them thoroughly in each region.” After recounting and describing at some length many kinds which it was especially desirable to introduce into Florida, he continued : “After considerable thought it has seemed most feasible to me to organize a stock company or society for the express purpose of introducing these economic plants. * * * Baron von Muller enumerates 2,485 species of useful plants, 24 SEVENTH ANNUAL MEETING OF THE tried in Florida ? Very many of the most important sub' tropical and tropical plants have never been introduced, much less tried here. “I would suggest, therefore, that the company send a trained agent to various countries and that he collect what¬ ever economic plants he can obtain, as well as citrus fruits and their allies. The plants thus imported could be placed on sale, and would, if judiciously advertised, hardly fail to pay expenses, at the very start, and would certainly be a most profitable investment in the end,” etc. Prof. Swingle explained that the United States Depart¬ ment of Agriculture could not undertake such a work, and •oncluded as follows : “Horticulturists of Florida, by what 1 have said I hope I have succeeded in convincing many of you at least that the Inauguration of this move would succeed as a business ven¬ ture, would eventually place it in the power of every one to grow new and better fruits and other crops, and would, in so doing, place you ahead of all competitors, foreign or domes¬ tic. * * * Is it not high time that Florida’s horticultur¬ ists show their abiding faith and interest in the welfare of themselves and their prosperity by putting into immediate execution some plan for the systematic introduction of econ¬ omic plants suited to our climate?” The ideas advanced by Prof. Swingle were favorably received by the Society, and after considerable discussion the following was unanimously passed : Resolved, That a committee of five be appointed by the President to whom shall be referred that portion of Prof. Swingle’s report relating to an organization for the purpose of introducing new varieties. It is expected that this com¬ mittee will issue a circular letter, calling astention to the importance of the matter, and if it meets with sufficient en¬ couragement the committee is authorized to perfect suck organization. The following committee was appointed : S. S. Harvey, W. T. Swingle, H. S. Williams, G. L. Taber, G. P. Healy. When the Committee on the the Introduction of New Fruits and Plants was called at the Jacksonville meeting, Chairman Harvey said: “The committee has not been able to make much progress. The times are too hard and dollars too scarce to bring about an investment of this kind. The committee has not thought it a propitious time for such a movement. Your committee asks to be continued. If this be done and the times improve they will take the matter up the coming year.” A motion was unanimously passed that the Committee on FLORIDA STATE HORTICULTURAL SOCIETY. 25 suitable for cultivation in extra-tropical regions. * * * In comparison with these numbers how few plants have been the Introduction of New Fruits and Plants be made one of the Society’s regular standing committees, and that its mem¬ bership be unchanged for another year. Grape Growing for Profit. Prepared by A. W. Stewart, of Galt, Santa Rosa County, member of Standing Committee on Grapes, and read by George H. Wright, Chairman. In preparing my Report on Grapes I endeavored to find out the best grapes for this state, so I wrote out a number of questions and sent them to members of our society in differ¬ ent sections of the state. Most of them furnished a prompb reply, showing that they were interested in the success of our society. 1 find that the Niagara, Delaware and Ives are the best adapted as market grapes for this state, as they stand ship¬ ping well and bring good prices and are a sure crop. I would advise all new beginners to plant these and not waste their money on putting out too many varieties, but confine them¬ selves to the above. I would recommend the following fertilizers: Ground bone, sulphate of potash and cotton seed meal. Use one-half to three-fourths ton per acre of the mixture. The vines require nitrogen, and this I would give in two applications, one in January, the other the last of May. I sent out the following question: “Are your vines free of disease?” and most of them replied “yes,” while others replied that they were troubled with mildew and that it could be prevented by spraying. I would recommend spraying with Bordeaux mixture. Most of them report that they received good prices, while others complain of the commission men getting away with them. I would recommend them not to ship to any one unless they know he is honest and makes true returns. Put your grapes up in nice little baskets four to the crate, anci they will sell, while those put up in boxes are a drug on the market. Although this fruit may be good it is in no shape to sell. A person will come along and see one of those nice i 26 SEVENTH ANNUAL MEETING OF THE baskets and it takes his fancy; whereas if he has to wait to have them weighed he won’t have them. The four baskets and crate will cost you about 16 cents, and will net you double. I do not claim that every kind of grape will succeed here, but as many as in any other section. When you make up your mind to start a vineyard, select a dry place. If not dry it should be made so by drainage. If it is new land rid the ground of all roots and do not allow any piles of brush to decay to feed insects, t ut burn them and scatter the ashes on the ground. Plow the ground deep and harrow it well. When your ground is ready run your rows ten feet apart, from north to south, if possible. Plant your vines ten feet apart. Dig your holes two feet square by eighteen inches to two feet deep. Select varieties that will ripen well here. Get good strong 2-year-old vines and see that they have roots on all sides and were not propagaged from layers. If so the roots will be all on one side. When planted upright the side on which no roots are formed begins to rot and this gradually extends up the vine and ihe unnourished side until in three or four years the novice finds he has a vine about at the end of its career, and wonders at his misfortune. This is one cause of so many failures. We can raise as large and fine grapes as they can north of the same kind. The Delaware grows to perfection, and for a table grape it has no equal. . The Niagara is a showy grape and sells well. The Ives is a good shipper and sells well. Pruning is of vital importance for the production of good fruit. Some claim that it should be done in the last of No¬ vember or first of December. I cannot agree with them. I would not prune until the buds begin to swell, then you can see all dead and deficient wood and remove it. I have pruned late for the last three years and have had a full crop. The late freeze did me but little damage ; my grapes were not far enough out to be hurt and are fruiting nicely. Ac¬ cording to reports, in West Florida those that were out and were killed are setting new fruit and will make a fair crop, but a little late. I am unable to say what damage was done in the eastern and middle part of the state. It is impossible to lay down any set rule for pruning. Different grapes require different pruning. I would recom¬ mend the renewal system. Grapes need cvltivation, and unless you can give it you need not expect to have fine grapes. Cultivate at least once every fifteen days until the middle of June, and with new vines until the middle of September. FLORIDA STATE HORTICULTURAL SOCIETY. 27 Marketing Grapes. Prepare'! and read by Geo. H. Wright, of Chuluota, Orange County, Chairman Standing Committee on Grapes. Grape growing is among the oldest horticultural industries since the creation, and therefore its consideration commands a portion of our time and attention. Grapes may be seen growing to perfection in nearly all parts of the world ; on hill sides, in the valleys, by the run¬ ning streams, on the plains, in tropical as well as temperate zones, not a civilized country but what they are grown to a greater or less extent. Yet, how few of us understand the requirements of the vine. Different species require different treatment and soil. Some varieties require a sandy soil, others clay, marl or muck, and the planter that plants his vines without a due regard to the requirements of variety, soil, etc., will not meet with success. Seven years ago the planting of the grape began quite largely in South Florida. A large acreage was planted, mostly to White Niagara, and up to last year there were 500 acres in Orange county alone, and at least half that amount in adjoining counties. When the spring of ’93 opened the grape growers were very sanguine that a large crop would bless their efforts and re¬ munerative prices be leceived. The first shipments to Philadelphia and New York brought good returns ; all subsequent shipments failed. The best of packing and handling by the grower came to naught. Word came back, “ grapes received in bad condi¬ tion.” Why was this? The growers were obliged to ship by express ; no refrigerator service could be secured ; express car was hot during the day but cool at night, the same thing the second and third day and the result was death to the business. This year not over one-half of the vineyards are being worked, and lack of remunerative prices is the cause. To make viticulture pay in Florida one of two things must be done : there must be first-class, rapid refrigerator service at reasonable rates, or the grapes must be manufactured into wine. From personal observation and experience in the field I have come to the following conclusions : “ Plant fewer Niag' 28 SEVENTH ANNUAL MEETING OF THE ara vines, and on our sandy soil more Herbemont, Norton’s Virginia and Cynthiana; plant on higher land than has been previously recommended ; use as a fertilizer plenty of am¬ monia, phosphoric acid and sulphate of potash ; work vine- 3^ards using clean culture up to June 1. In South Florida we must trust to express and transportation companies to give us better service or we must go out of the business.” These conclusions are drawn from a state where a large variety of grapes grow to perfection. Discussion on Grapes. Mr. Geo. H. Wright — I wish to state that Mr. H. P. Hand, of Daytona, was the third member of this Committee on Grapes. Mr. Stewart wrote me that he was an amateur in grape growing I replied that it was the amateur, as a rule, that brought out new thoughts and new ideas, not only in grape growing but in all planting. I regret that Mr. Stewart is not here. Mr. H. S. Williams — The paper read by Mr. Wright does not show a very glowing future for grapes in South Florida. I should like to hear from Mr. Mellish on this subject. Mr. G. W. Mellish — I do not know that I have anything new to offer. I presume we have some advantages in West Florida over South Florida growers. We are within twenty-four hours of Cincinnati and thirty-six of Chicago, and our Niag¬ ara grapes have been shipped to both points without any re¬ port of bad condition when received. We grow our grapes, at least most of us, on high sandy soil, thoroughly well drained, naturally. One small vineyard was planted in our section on soil where the clay was within possibly a foot of the surface and in going by the vineyard one evening the owner called me and shook the grape vine, causing the grapes to fall to the ground. I told him to come up to my place and see my grapes. He did come and I took him out to the vine¬ yard and shook the vines, but they did not fall. I do not know the reason of it except that it may have been caused by the wet weather and poorly drained soil. I had used potash and that may have had something to do with it, but I do not know. I certainly should not expect profitable returns from grapes grown on heavy soil, unless thoroughly drained. The FLORIDA STATE HORTICULTURAL SOCIETY. 29 water must work off above the clay, and if it cannot get off soon enough the ground becomes so saturated with water that the grapes drop from the stem and those that remain are not of good quality. Grapes should be planted on high soil. On my place I have found no foundation except sand. Our ex¬ press rates are probably not so exhorbitant as in South Flor¬ ida. They are high enough, but our returns bring us a profit, as much, perhaps, as is derived from any line of fruit grow¬ ing, all hough grape growing requires more attention than peach growing in our vicinity. I have always had an idea tint the trouble in Sou h Florida was that the grapes were planted in ground not well enough drained. Mr. W. A. Cooper — I would like to ask Mr. Wright to ex¬ plain about the earload of grapes he went to Chicago will from Orlando, and ab ut the condition the grapes were in that came from St. Augustine at about the same time. I read in a paper published at Avon Park about the grapes raised round St. Augustine and Moultrie, and how very profitable they are. I would like to have Mr. Wright say in what condition he found them. Mr. Wright— I do not like the idea of criticising the bus¬ iness methods of any one, especially of those in a business that is parallel with my own ; yet, in answering the gentle¬ man’s question I will be obliged to do it. These glowing statements are not confined to the paper to which Captain Cooper refers. Only last week one of our evening papers criticised the knowledge of the growers of Orange county and spoke very highly of the experience of those in St. Johns county. (Mr. Wright is from Orange county.) I think it was on the 29th of last June I left Orlando with a car load of grapes for Chicago. The car was iced the day we loaded in Orlando and went out the same night. At Bald¬ win it laid over twelve hours and was five days on the road. One of the ventilators of the car was open. On the morning of the 5th of July I opened the car and put the grapes on the market, and fixed the price at which they should be sold. I sold about 100 crates that day at at an average of $2.50 to $5 per crate of 24 and 40 pounds. That night a car load came in lrom Moultrie by express, containing between 100 and 200 crates. These were put up at auction and sold at an average of $1.20 to $1.40 a crate. They were not as fine grapes as ours. There were no covers on the baskets below the top tier, and the baskets were not quite full. Of course this cut prices, but only a little. The next evening there was another car load and the following evening another. The prices of those grapes run down to 40 30 SEVENTH ANNUAL MEETING OF THE to 60 cents. I didn’t sell a crate of our grapes for less than' $1.20. The difference in the condition in which they arrived was due more to the method of shipping than anything else. We have had discussions at various times in our society in regard to leaving some circulation of air in the car. I ob¬ jected to it, thinking it would be damaging to the grapes. In the carload I went to Chicago with the grapes in the end of the car in which the ventillator was open were not as good as those in another part of the car. In regard to the failure of some of the vineyards in Or¬ ange county and in South Florida, (and I want to say right here that I grew grapes thirty years ago in New York, I have seen gr ipes growing in Missouri, Colorado and Califor¬ nia, and I have seen grapes growing on the Rhine, in different localities, and I think I know something about grape growing.) I believe the failure to day to grow grapes profitably, lies in the plan by which we are forced to get them to market. I know of one vineyard of 110 acres, all Niagaras, of which the owners are very sanguine of successful returns, but they are making arrangements for refrigerator service to market their crops. In the first place, we must cool down the car before putting grapes in. They must lie in refrigeration twenty -four hours before they are loaded. By that means we get the grapes all cooled through before they move, and then if they can go right through in the express trains, or if fast freight service can be secured, I venture to say that grape growing in South Florida can be made as profitable and as remunerative as in any other portion of the state. As a rule we must plant our grapes, especially the Niagara,, on higher ground. I have gone into nearly every vineyard in Orange county with a view of seeing what could be done with grape growing in South Florida, and I say in the paper I have read it is the method in which they are put into the market that causes the unprofitableness of the undertaking. The grapes are put into hot exprtss cars, piled in indiscriminately, and some growers only half pack them, taking no pains, and of cousse they do not get through in good condition. Our grapes went through to Chicago in better condition than any T saw from other points. I went to the auction and examined the grapes, and those from other points did not come up to the standard of ours. I also saw in Chicago some grapes from about Tallahassee that went into Chicago in very poor condi¬ tion indeed, although twenty-four hours nearer that market than we are. Anyone who will take a carload of grapes and run them through to Chicago, New York, Baltimore or Bos¬ ton on the plan that I have outlined, will find they will be im perfect condition on arrival at their destination. FLORIDA STATE HORTICULTURAL SOCIETY. 31 I have had some correspondence with, a gentleman hand¬ ling strawberries about Gainesville. He has a patent of his own get up in a cold storage box that he puts in a car — a com¬ mon freight car ; he lets his car remain and cool twenty-four hours. After cooling it perfectly and thoroughly he puts in his fruit and it goes to New York and the Northern markets in perfect condition. He said he handled grapes in the same way and had no difficulty whatever. From my observation on my trip to Chicago last June, from what I have seen of grape marketing in other ways, and from experience of our method of shipping for two years now in express cars, I have come to the conclusion that this is the difficulty and about the only one. Grapes in our hot climate ripen when the weather is hot and moist, and we must have some means of cooling the grapes down before they are started in transit, else they ‘will rot on the way. I d^ not believe to-day that there is an investment that a man can go into, if he under¬ stands the business, which would be more paying than grape growing, if the right kind of transportation can be obtained to put the grapes in the Northern markets. We could not get refrigerator cars for love or m mey; at least, that has been the experience of the past. We must have a fast, reli¬ able refrigerator service or make our grapes into wine. Mr. G. P. Healy — I would like to ask a question. Do you find that you get remunerative prices for the grapes that go through in g >od order ? Mr. Wright — Yes, sir; this has been my experience and it cannot be otherwise. If the grapes reach the markets in good condition you will get good prices. I want to say one thing. I do not ship white grapes to Chicago. You can send them to Philadelphia, New York or Boston and get good prices. I have had my7 grapes bring me thirty cents a pound in New York and Loston. Mr. Healy — I would like to ask if that was last year. Mr. Wright — Last year I got twenty-two cents for the first shipments that went through and they were not thoroughly ripe. Mr. Healy — I would like to ask Mr. Wright if it is a fact that all of the grapes of South Florida that went into the Northern markets in good condition sold at paying prices. Mr. Wright— As far as I know they did. Mr. Healy — What were the prices ? Mr. Wright — Eight to ten cents per pound. I can grow grapes in Florida as cheap as I can in New York state. Mr. Healy — I sent my grapes to the Northern markets. They went through in good order ; I did not have any re¬ ported in bad order. They went there in good time and they 3 o Zi SEVENTH ANNUAL MEETING OF THE did not go through the Grape Growers’ association, and I got what would be considered for an orange grower about three and a half cents a box. I do not think they paid over that. You pay the express company four cents and you pay four cents for cultivation, packing, etc., and then sell for ten cents a pound. I cann*»t for the life of me see where the profit comes in. 1 failed to find a dollar in it. I agree with Mr. Mellish that the grapes on the high lands are the grapes that will stay on the stems. If an3r man is paying four cents a pound to transport his grapes, and four cents more to have them picked, and carried to his packing house and taken on board the car, he can do more than I can if he makes any¬ thing out of the grapes. At these prices I do not believe he can do it. This great hue and cry they are raising at St. Augustine about grapes is misleading. It is going to carry people into the business and they are going to get hurt when they go into that business. I got hurt, and got hurt badly, and a surgical operation could not put me on my feet. I met Mr. Terry at St. Augustine; he then had sent off two carloads and had one at the depot. They were badly packed. They were not as good as the South Florida grapes. He had not received any returns, but that night, at the hotel, he received a telegram stating that they had been received in bad order, and he stopped shipping. He is now going int > making wine. Now, the objection I make to all this is that we are rgoing to lead some poor fellow into this business to put his last dollar where I put mine. Look at the ridiculous posi¬ tion ! To invite the horticulturists of Florida to go into the grape growing business ! It is a mistake to induce the horticulturists of Florida to go into something out of which they will not get a dollar. The institution at Lockport (Niagara Grape Company) got all the loose change I had, and I do not want anybody else to go the rond that I have gone. Look at my vineyard and look at my bank account. Mr. Cooper — I was crippled a little in the grape business. I swallowed a bait on the grape question. I got Col. Bailey to look at my ground. He said it was a splendid place for grapes. I put out about eight acres. Last year I shipped some grapes and my profit was two 2-cent stamps. I have framed those stamps and have them hanging in my office. I have plowed all my grape vines up. I tried to give the vines away but nobody would take them. For goodness sake never say grapes to me again. Mr. Healy— The matter of associations has come to my m nd. Where I marketed most of my grapes I was obliged to ship to an association house. I was guaranteed 8 percent, commission, but was charged 12 per cent. If I had been FLORIDA. STATE HORTICULTURAL SOCIETY. 33 •charged 10 per cent. I would have had 2 per cent. left. I had taken so much medicine I thought I could take some more. I am just as much opposed to associations as I am to grape growing. Mr. Mott — I would like to ask Mr. Cooper if he ever raised a bunch of grapes in his vineyard all the berries of which were good enough to eat. Mr. Cooper — Certainly, I have, especially on that portion of my place called the “Camden Plac j.” I have raised as fine grapes there as you- ever saw. The vines are very vigor¬ ous. Mr. Mott — I have thought we could raise good grapes in Florida, and I think so yet, but we have got to import the man to raise them. The men who have been raising grapes around Orlando cannot do it. They have picked out the land that has been under water ; land that it was never intended should be planted with grapes. They have cleared out the swamps and planted, and I am not surprised at the failures we have heard of and are hearing of. They planted grapes on land that nothing else would grow on. A gentleman at Haines City by the name of Dodson has four acres in grapes and he told me that his grapes were perfect last year, and that he shipped them and got good prices for them, and that they were all gone before he began to ship from around Orlando. Mr. Wright — I think you will admit that I have not made a very flowery report to-night. I did not propose to make one that would lead people into the crape-growing business until they knew what thay wanted. It is a fact that the finest grapes I have ever seen growing east of the Rocky Mountains were those I have seen grown in South Florida. There were a great many men who grew grapes around Orlando a few years ago who did not understand the proper mode of spraying the grapes and the result was mildew got away with a good many of them. I have used a mixture I consider quite efficient. Making and applying this mixture is a nice job. You put the sulphate of copper on the lime after it is all dis-olved, and you ruin it, but if you put the lime on the copper it is all right. You have to use the mixture as a preventive, not as a cure, and then you can make as per¬ fect grapes in South Florida as you can in Missouri, in New York or anywhere. I have not made a favorable report, but at the same time I do not want to say that there is any diffi¬ culty in growing first class grapes in South Florida, but the main trouble is in getting them to market. You want to get them there in first-class condition, and the returns will be satisfactory. When the question of transportation is solved 34 SEVENTH ANNUAL MEETING OP THE everything is all right, as far as I can see. I can then grow grapes and make money out of them. I do not advise any man to go into grape growing unless he has circumstances, varieties, soils, etc., in his favor. Lyman Phelps — About sixteen years ago, after having been brought up in the grape region of Central New York, I undertook to grow grapes in Orange county. I tried it about four years in a small way. I spent a thousand dollars and received nothing for my efforts. I got nothing back. W. H. Mann — I gathered a box of white grapes last year in July, and kept those grapes for two weeks and they kept good and sound. I think something might be made out of grape growing in South Florida. R. W. Pierce — Where can grapes be grown if not in Florida? I was in California last year and I saw the China¬ men there taking the vines through the streets for fire wood. This did not seem to me to prove that grapes were so very profitable there. Replying to a number of questions, Mr. Wright said: As fine grapes as I ever saw in my life, and I have seen a great many, I have grown in South Florida. I use a fertilizer with plenty of ammonia, some phosphoric acid and a little potash, one-half pound to the vine, annually. Forty pounds of grapes to the vine a little over three years old is what I have pro¬ duced in my vineyard. In South Florida the vineyards are worked with clean culture up to June 1st. I believe that on most of our flat lands in South Florida the Niagara will be short-lived. I have a row of the Duchess, and they are very productive. There are several objections to this variety. One is they are too productive. You have to thin them out or reduce the quantity by short pruning. Again, as they begin to ripen they begin to shed. The Cyn- thiana, Herbemont and Norton’s Virginia all do well enough on high land. The Herbemont and Cynthiana succeed better in South Florida than they do in the Tallahassee region, and there is no reason why these grapes should not be grown profitably if, as I said, the proper means of transportation can be secured. I want to say a word in regard to a gentleman who is grow¬ ing grapes near Winter Park. He has foreign varieties as- well as American varieties, but he believes as I do that he will have to put the white grapes into wine. FLORIDA STATE HORTICULTURAL SOCIETY. 35 Pineapples. The Committee on Tropical Fruits presenting no report when this topic was reached, the President said : This afternoon I had the pleasure of meeting Mr. Thomas E. Richards of Eden, called the “Pineapple King of Florida.” No doubt the society would lik*? to hear from him. Mr. Richards — I suppose 1 am appointed to represent the poor “king.” 1 was not brought up to make speeches. Four¬ teen years ago I came from Little Jersey to the Indian River country and went to growing pines. I have made consider¬ able success at it. Unlike tiie Niagara grape growers we do get some returns from our fruit. I have been growing pine¬ apples for fourteen years, and I think it is a better industry to-day than it was fourteen years ago, and the prospects are that it will continue to be better. We have been handicapped by lack of proper transportation. Our fruit would break down in transit, but at the present time we have very good facilities for shipping, and we can let our fruit get thor¬ oughly ripe before shipping to New York and the eastern markets. We get better prices than formerly. I think there is room for others in the industry. If }rou are going to give up grapes come down and try pineapples. The President — There are a good many of us who want pineapples, not particularly to compete with your market, but for home market. Mr. Richards — In that case I think the best way would be to send down our way for them. It is quite a story to tell the whole mode of cultivation of the pine. I do not think I would like to take up that much time. C. F. A. Bielby — Mr. Richards, this is just what we all want to know. Mr. Richards — You will find that you cannot plant the pineapple where there is any frost, yet we do not claim to be below the frost line. Poor scrub land with plenty of spruce pine on it is good enough for pineapple growing. That is the kind of land our fruit is planted upon principally. H. S. Williams— Tell us something about the varieties you are growing. Mr. Richards — We plant the Spanish pine, the Strawberry 36 SEVENTH ANNUAL MEETING OF THE pine and the Egyptian Queen. These are the best and most successful. The other varieties are troubled by the red spi¬ der and are not so successful. We plant from ten to sixteen thousand plants to the acre. It costs in the neighborhood of $300 to grub the land and get it in condition, set out the plants, pay for them, take care of them and fertilize them until they fruit, which takes about two years. I refer to the Strawberry and Spanish pines. The first year about 90 per cent, of the plants fruit, and the second year we get about two pines for each plant set. If the fruit is well fertilized and cared for it will average about sixty to the crate. Last year I realized about $4.50 per crate, net. If you want to go into the business come down into our country. A. H. Martin — Something has been said about the grape being planted in the swamps and I know that pineapples are planted in the swamps. What kind of land should pines have, Mr. Richards ? Mr. Richards — Pretty good sand. They will not grow in swamp land and they do not want any water. The pineapple is built for a dry country, and if you will notice the plant you will see the peculiar formation of the leaves or stems, which seem to be made to catch and absorb moisture from the at¬ mosphere. They get plenty of dew and do not need much rain. If you wiil examine a growing pineapple early in the morning vou will find that the leaves are full of water. Mr. Williams — I remember as far back as 1814, when the first pineapple in our section bloomed, it was a great curiosity; people came for fifty miles to see that pineapple growing;, that was the first effort to grow the fruit in that section, and it is wonderful what strides have been made. I took a trip to Lake Worth last summer and stopped at Mr. Richards’ place. The varieties I grew vvere the Red Spanish, and up to 1886 I made quite a success of growing pines. I had a home market for all I could grow, and I had a compliment, paid me by a lady who said that my fruit was the first she had ever eat without sugar. The freeze of 1886 gave pineapple culture at Rockledge a black eye from which it has not re¬ covered, but the lands about Jensen, Eden and St. Lucie are to-day as valuable as any lands in the state of Florida, and as Mr. Richards says, the lands there that produce the spruce pine have been found the best for pineapples. The pineapples growing around Jensen were a picture to look at. On level ground you could see acre a'ter acre, and I consider that that, industry is going to be the most profitable of auy industry in the state. There is one objection to the Indian River coun¬ try ; there are too many mosquitoes. FLORIDA STATE HORTICULTURAL SOCIETY. 37 Mr. Phelps — Mr. Richards, does the Abakka pine grow in your section successfully ? Mr, Richards — It does very well. We grow plenty of them, but we never try to ship them to Northern markets. Mr. Phelps— I never got so much off a small space as I did off pineapples, but in 1886 I went to pieces on pineapples and have never tried them since. There is no question that a heavy frost will play havoc with and will ruin a pineapple plantation. There is another quality of the pineapple and a very important one, which should not be lost sight of. Years ago I used the pine as part of my food. I thrived on it. It is readily and easily assimilated. One of the best known chemical companies in the United States to-day has begun to put up a plant in Mexico which will cost thousands of dollars to grow pines simply for the use that can be made of them in medicine and to produce a free- digesting food that can be taken up into the blood without any action of the stomach. I investigated thoroughly the properties of the pineapple some years ago, aud I can say that this fruit is next to fresh beef in nutritive qualities. This chemical company has selected Mexico for its plant as being more of an even climate. They are going to put up food that will make lean people fat in a very short time. It is easily digested and is preferable to fresh meat. It is in the form of a syrup. The industry is in its infancy. I look forward to more results from the pine in that direction than I do to the pine being consumed at the table. 0. P. Rooks — I have a neighbor who claims that he has had dyspepsia for twenty years, and there is no food or fruit that he c^n eat with as much relish as the pineapple. He states that when the pineapple season is on he has no disturbances from his complaint because he then eats the pine, I have been raising pines for fifteen years. Even tv,e freeze of 1886 did not break me up. My place is four miles from Leesburg. I gathered two elegant pines this morning We h*ve twenty varieties and they all seem to be doing fairly well. The large varieties do not seem to do as well as the Queen. We plant under protection. We put up a rough shed and cover that with pine straw as a protection against frost. Pine stiaw that is used during the wimer can be put round fruit trees. Wherever the pineapples have been planted out trees are do¬ ing much better than elsewhere. I have doubled the crop of fruit where the pineapples have been planted. There is one idea that Mr. Richards advances and that is that sand is abso¬ lutely necessary. My land has a clay sub soil from two to six feet down and the pines do well. I have raised pineapples 38 SEVENTH ANNUAL MEETING OF THE weighing ten pounds, and this fruit has been as profitable as anything I have ever raised on my place, I believe that in our section of the country (Lake county) every farmer and grower should have a patch of pineapples for his own use. When it is thoroughly ripe it is a delicious fruit, as much so ■Sis any that can be had. These pineapples that we pick green and ship are not of a very fine flavor when they do ripen. People do not like the taste of them. People are going into pines extensively and there seems to be a great deal of trouble in getting slips. A gentleman told me to day that he had 150 acres under cultivation, and he was thinking of putting out all of it in pineapples. The matter of transportation facilities is also a troublesome question. Mr. Plant has opened up a a st eamship line to the tropical regions, Jamaica and the south, and in view of the competition from the West Indies, I do not know where we will be after awhile. Unless transportation matters improve I am afraid we will be run out of the busi¬ ness. Mr. Phelps — It is not well to cross bridges before we get to them. I have great faith in what Mr. Flagler says and he says he is going to build further down into the state. Re¬ ferring again to the medicinal qualities of the pineapple: I think the time has come for us to realize that there is nothing so eloquent as the truth, and the simple truth should be told of the climate of Florida. I came to this state as an invalid. I respect the state. I have been sick in the last eighteen months, and I have been told again and again that I would not live long, but I am living and strong to-day. There are plants that grow in Florida that will cure almost any disease. You should all understand what your systems need. After going through a very trying year and not knowing what made me sick, I am up again and on my feet and ready to work, almost. I say to you that the pineapple and the fig are pre¬ eminently the food for this climate. Those two things are worth more as food than anything else, but they want to be ripe fruit, not green. Unripe fruit is not good for the stom¬ ach and the acid of such fruit is irritating. The acid of ripe fruits is all healthful. Yo food or fruit is equal to the pine¬ apple. I do not think we can raise pines where there is frost in the air to compete with the lower part of the state. I have kept a record for forty years and it is very interesting to me to studv the records of the barometer and the thermometer, and I have learned a great many things from this systematic study. The question of Orlando has been brought up. I have resided in Orange county twenty years. There are .places near that town where pineapples have been planted and grow so luxuriously that in going through the country in my buggy FLORIDA STATE HORTICULTURAL SOCIETY. 39 I have had to stand on the seat. I have never advised any man to invest one dollar in Florida until he came to look at it and get advice from the men in the community in which he desired to locate. I say that I have more than made a living in the state by my efforts, and I propose to stick to it. Mr. Richards — I have been asked how long a pineapple plantation would stand. I must say I have not been in the business long enough to know. I haye been at it fourteen years and I have plants growing yet and they do better to-day than they did five years ago. All that is necessary is atten¬ tion and plenty of fertilizer to make them last an indefinite period. Use phosphate (Florida soft phosphate ground and dried,) potash (derived from kanit and cotton seed meal); that makes a cymplcte fertilizer. My pineapple plants bear all the year. „ I have shipped a good many in the winter. The new ones come on in the summer. We plant about 16,000 to the acre. When the plants are two years old we get from 200 to 300 per cent, and we get less after t hat. Speaking of the pineapple being a good medicine for indi¬ gestion, I found out long ago that the pineapple was a good medicine, and when I came to Florida I was a dyspeptic, but I am not now. When I can get a good ripe pineapple to eat I do not have indigestion. Mr. Rooks — If I understand correctly the captain states he plants 16,000 pineapple plants to the acre; the first year they will average 60 per cent, in fruit; the second year from 200 to 300 per cent. Do I understand that in the second year they will produce from thirty to forty thousand apples to the acre ? Mr. Richards — The first year they produce 90 per cent, and the second year they will produce 300 per cent. Mr. Rooks — You plant 16,000 plants to the acre? Mr. Richards — Yes, sir. Mr. Rooks — That is 45,000 apples the second year. I can¬ not raise it on my ground. Mr. Richards — Some of myr plants have five to six apples on them. Mr. Rooks — I could never do that. I would like to ask Mr. Martin if he is acquainted with the character of the land that Mr. Russell has. Mr. Martin — It is dry land. Mr. Rooks — I remember visiting his place once, but it ap¬ peared to me that the land was swampy. Mr. Martin — His place was on wet land. It has been thoroughly drained. It is rich, good land. 40 SEVENTH ANNUAL MEETING OF THE Mr. Rooks — I would like to know the best kind of fertil¬ izer to use. I have used fertilizers that are prepared for the orange trees on my pineapples. It has a wonderful effect on my orange trees and on the oranges. My pines are planted about two to three feet apart . All the plants I got from the Indian River country had the mealy bugs. Something de¬ stroyed them ; I do not know what. I have none now. I do not know what the cure was. Mr. Richards — The fertilizer I mentioned is the best. I do not know what killed out your mealybugs. We are not troubled by them. Gf. P. Healy — I would like to ask Mr. Richards if he has any difficulty with the stem rot in his pines. Mr. Richards — The stem rot is caused by the red spider. The spider works round the root of the plant and causes them to rot off. I do not know what the remedy is. I have no red spiders because I do not plant the varieties they infest. The Kaki— Japan Persimmon. The Committee on Kaki submitt ing no report, the subject was taken up and discussed as follows : C. F. A. Bielby — 1 think almost every one present has an interest in this subject, and it would be gratifying to every¬ one here to hear from those who have raised Japan persim¬ mons and of their successes. There is no question about the possibilities of raising the fruit, nor is there question about the quality of it, but how to prepare it so that in getting it to market it may be presented sound and whole and induce the people of the consuming portion of the country to purchase it, is the only question we have much interest in. I shipped quite a large quantity last year, and every box I was able to put in the market sound, sold for a very good price; but un¬ fortunately I do not seem to have the knack of putting it up so that it will go to the market in good shape. Pack it ever so> green, or as ripe as I might, it would always reach the mar¬ kets in bad order. On the whole the shipments were disas¬ trous. If anybody here knows how to ship it so that the FLORIDA STATE- HORTICULTURAL SOCIETY. 41 fruit will arrive at market in good order, we will be pleased to hear from him. C. A. Hasenyager — I shipped some last year. I wrapped them and packed them in half boxes, the same as we use for oranges, and they sold in Philadelphia for $3. 75 per box. 1 picked them some time after Christmas, but the early ones 1 have not succeeded in marketing yet. They were very hard, and I kept some of the fruit three weeks before it was fit to eat. I wrote small cards and cautioned the dealer that they must be kept until they were soft before they were ready for the consumer. They sold well. S. S. Harvey — I have made an effort to raise a small grove, having just lately become interested in the fruit. I have set out about three acres. I have raised a few trees. I shipped some fruit to Chicago last year. They would ship round the world. As the gentleman has just said it takes two weeks for them to get fit to eat. The difficulty I found in the first shipments was that nobody knew how to eat them or when to eat them, but they are learning rapidly in the western cities.. There is quite a difference this year. I shipped my fruit in the Sinclair boxes. They went to Chicago in good condition and they brought me an average of to 2f cents apiece. I had one tree with 185 fruits one year, another 235. The trees were about lour years old, possibly five, but there was not the slightest difficulty about shipping and reaching the market in fine condition. I think that if we make a success of this fruit it will be necessary to print a slip giving direc¬ tions in regard to using it, and put in each box shipped, cer¬ tainly for a year. My commission man in Chicago tells me that the fruit men buy them to ornament their stalls. From my sales last year I was encouraged to plant, aud I think it will be a good paying fruit. I had a difficulty in growing the trees, as I found there was some insect that attacked the leaves and curled them up. I used a solution of tobacco and got rid of the insects and have had no trouble about the curl¬ ing of leaves since. G. P. Healy — I would like to ask the gentleman how many are consumed in ornamenting ? Mr. Harvey — I do not think that is a matter of any mo¬ ment. I think the consumers are rapidly learning to know the fruit. My commission man informed me that they read¬ ily sold in the California market in 20-pound peach boxes last season for $3.50 to $3.75. T. K. Godbey — I have been growing the persimmon for about seven years. I had, I think, the first fruit planted in the state. I now have about 500 trees. I have never had 42 SEVFNTH ANNUAL MEETING OF THE •any trouble in shipping them. I have only shipped a few. I have found a good market near home. Sometimes, though, I overstock the home market. Last year I did not have a very large crop and about the first of November I shipped a box {what would be an orange box) with my first shipment of or¬ anges to Chattanooga, Tenn. They were 15 days on the road. They arrived in Tennessee and sold for $2, net. That is what was equal to an orange box. I have shipped them to New York and got $3, net, about as well as I have ever done. The trees are very prolific with me, but I find this trouble: They are liable to be damaged by late frosts and if the tree is the least bit damaged the worms will get into it and kill it. When the tree gets old the worms will also get into it. Aou can depend on a tree living only a little while — not more than three or four crops will be produced. There is one worm that gets in at the roots, but the others get in through the bark, and they kill the tree. I have decided that in a commercial way the Japan persimmon will not do to depend upon. I have made some money out of them but do not set much store by them. I am afraid to trust them. It is true that the stump will always sprout up and you can regraft that and get another tree in a short while, but that will also die. My first trees were set out twelve years ago and they have gone down three times to the stumps. The bulk dre only five or six years old and many are badly affected with the worms, C. A. Bacon — I have a few of the persimmon trees and what I have have been very successful. I have three varie¬ ties. The best is acorn-shaped and very large. Some of that variety have weighed a pound. They are very fine. I am not acquainted with the insect that gets into the root. I have used kerosene for killing the borer, both in peach and persimmon trees. At Holly Hill Mr. Harris went into the persimmon business quite extensively. The last conversa¬ tion I had with him was two years ago. He said then that the twig-borer and the wood-pecker would ruin ihe fruit. I should be sorry to have this fruit cried down. It is the most perfect fruit, I think, grown on the face of the earth. It is a delicious fruit and “fit for the gods.” Lyman Phelps — The gentleman gave the name of the fruit when he said it was “fit for the gods.” The fruit is no more liable to the attacks of insects than any other trees that grow . 1 have a persimmon tree that has been fruiting for me for twelve or thirteen years. Last year I picked off fruit equal in quantity to ten boxes of oranges, and it is quite healthy still. I do not know much about Japan persimmons. I got some new varieties year before last from California that FLORIDA STATE HORTICULTURAL SOCIETY. 43 came direct from Japan. The fruit is not as difficult to grow as peaches. A. G. AyERY — I have eaten as many as six varieties of this fruit and they are of different, taste and flavor. The fruit wants to be kept from moisture. It should not be exposed to dampness, aud if it is placed in a dry place it keeps a long while ; it will keep for five weeks. It is not really nice until it gets very soft. There is no fruit equal to it, in my estima¬ tion. II. W. Marsh — I can only raise one crop of persimmons a year, but there are three crops of blackbirds, and all want a bite of each persimmon. W. H. II. Holdridge — I have raised persimmons, and I have found them very fine fruit, indeed, and I have had no trouble with my trees until the March frost of four years ago. Perhaps the fruit-growers remember that year. We did not have a show of frost from November to March, but in March we had a killing frost Ever since my trees have been be¬ having: just like Mr. Godbey’s. I have found them occasion¬ ally rotting. I have been watching other things more closely than these trees. Mr. Godbey — As to the size of persimmons I have had the fruit of the Hvakume variety weigh twenty ounces. In this respect we could not ask any more. As to the quality of the fruit, as a gentleman has said, 4*it is fit for the gods,” if they ever eat anything. The worm getting into the bark is a very serious matter, and it might be a good idea to look and go slow, and be sure what you are doing. 0. P. Rooks — It has been suggested that a fruit should not be denounced because it proves a failure in one locality. One of the speakers seems to think that the trouble Mr. Godbev meets is caused by frost, and I think the gentleman himself believes so. I have never had my trees injured in that way. I have never noticed any worms. We have trees that are twelve years old, bearing good and successful crops. I think I have ten varieties. I think the fine variety that Mr. Bacon referred to as being acorn-shaped is the Tane-Nashi. I sent specimens to Washington nine years ago and they were fig¬ ured in the bulletins, and I think they called them the Tane- Nashi. They are certainly fine fruit, and I have grown them weighing a pound. They are among the most profitable fruits we have, meaty and good shippers. Prof. P. H. Rolfs — In reference to the sawyer: They are very thick where there are hickories. They might be pre¬ vented from attacking the persimmon trees by protecting 44 SEVENTH ANNUAL MEETING OF THE n, the division pas¬ senger agent ot the L. & N. company, with passes over their line in Florida (204 miles) doth ways, good to stop at any and all stations, for Mr. Taber and myself. Owing to sick¬ ness in Mr. Taber’s family, the trip was not made. But the action of the company deserves this acknowledgment. A GOOD RAILROAD SERVICE. In this connection I will digress to state that for several years I have shipped fruit by the L. & N. railway, my orchard being on their line, and the only road I ship over in Florida, and I have invariably received good attention and fair treat¬ ment from officers and employes. Last year I shipped seve¬ ral carloads and numerous smaller shipments, and while I think the charges entirely too much, the service was first- class. Ventilated cars were promply furnished and promptly taken away when loaded, and, better still, promptly delivered at destination. Through the courtesy of Mr. Saltmarsh, the division superintendent, I knew where my cars were, from point to point, when I asked for it. TRANSPORTATION CHARGES. I say I think the charges too much. I suppose we would think that if they were much less. Bat let us be just, if pos¬ sible. The fault of excessive freight rates does not lie at the door of the railroad officials that we come in contict with. They are simply trying (and failing often) to make expenses and pay interest on invested capital and water added by grace of legislative bodies. We have trird Railioad Com¬ missions, National and State, and failed. What next? Some gentlemen of this Society may think ail of this out of place in a report on peaches and plums, but I am trying to produce fruit in Chicago, New York, and wnere my custom¬ ers are, and I find transportation a very considerable part of the work. SUITABLE VARIETIES. The greatest difficulty about successful peach and plum 46 SEVENTH ANNUAL MEETING OF TIIE culture is varieties suitable lor the locality. That is import¬ ant information that Experiment Stations should promptly furnish, but they do not. For an illustration, the earliest va¬ riety of peach we know of is the Peen-to. In the center of the Peninsula and South that peach may be a s access, but it is entirely worthless in Northern Florida, the reason being that it blooms too early for any section that has late frosts. TIME OF BLOOMING. I have been forced to consider a feature of peach culture that I have never found in any book or catalogue, namely,. When does it bloom ? It is a question I have never se en an¬ swered by any one trying to sell trees. It is a far more im¬ portant question than when it ripens its fruit, and it is one that I recommend all intending planters of peach tre es to have answered before they purchase. If the variety blooms before the time that you may reasonably expect the last cold spell in your locality, do not touch it. It will shorten your life, and worry what you do have, to see, year after year, your peach trees become loaded with young peaches, only to be made mush of by a late cold spell. If some of my nursery friends, or catalogue fiends, had given me information on this point when I commenced planting trees, some nine years since, it would have saved me thousands of dollars and much vexation of spirit ; and not only myself, but my poor, suffer¬ ing neighbors, as they followed in my footsteps and set out acres of crazy ttees that do not, sleep until spring comes. LATE BLOOMING DESIRABLE. A peculiar thing I have discovered only by experience is that it is not necessary to look for a variety that blooms early to get early peaches. WALDO AND ALEXANDER COMPARED. Take the Waldo and the Alexander, and this year’s ex¬ perience: The Waldo commenced to bloom 3d to 5th of Feb¬ ruary, at the time of the late cold snap, March 27th, the fruit was nearly half grown; all lost. The Alexander had not opened any bloom March 27th, and is about in full bloom tu-day, April 7th. Now if the Waldo had not lost its fruit,, it and the Alexander would have matured their fruit at the same time, about the last of May. Each will sell the same in market. With this very great disadvantage of early bloom¬ ing, the Waldo and all seedlings of the Peen-to, have one ad¬ vantage over any Persian variety that I have tried, and that is, the Chinese are decidedly the best woodmakers. But all that beautiful wood is nothing, if those varieties put on fruit each year only to be frozen by the late cold. FOUR BEST VARIETIES FOR WEST FLORIDA. If I wanted to set out ten acres in peaches now, I would* FLORIDA STATE HORTICULTURAL SOCIETY. 47 put in two acres Jesse Kerr, two acres Alexander, two acres General Lee, and four acres Elberta. As a money producer, there is no peach so far tried in West Florida equal to the Elberta. It ripens July 5th to 20th. The earlier varieties occasionally get very fancy prices, but there is none of them that have the quantity or quality of the Elberta, and it can be got to the most distant market in good condition. There may be many other varieties, even of the oldest, that are as good, or better than those mentioned, but these we have found by experience to be good. Good authority asserts that the Persian varieties will not do well in Eastern and South Florida. I would very much like to see them fairly tried on the clay hills of the central peninsula — say in Marion, Sumter and Polk counties. PLUM CULTURE. Of plum culture our experience in the western portion of the State is not sufficient to warrant any fixed opinions as to which is the best varieties. All that we are testing ot the old, and the Japan or Chinese varLtie*, are good wood- makers. The best of the orientals so far as we have gone, is the Burbank or Abundance, or bosh, if they are distinct varieties as many claim. NECESSITY FOR SPRAYING. Of one thing I am satisfied about plum culture, it cannot be made a success without careful, continuous and regular spraying. Insect life appears to luxuriate on the plum. In addition to the regular lot there has appeared with us one, if not two new varieties of scale insect, and the plums appear to suffer most, though they are attacking the peaches as well. I conclude that the future of plum culture — and possibly peach culture— dep nds on the efficiency and cost of spraying. It pays well to raise good peaches. It is possible to get from $500 to $700 per acre from a crop from trees four years old. A very fair return may bo had the second year after planting one-year-old trees. FORCING EARLY GROWTH. Nothing assures good trees more surely than forcing all the growth possible the first year. I consider this so im¬ portant that I think trees are almost worthless that have not made a good strong growth the first year. No after work or fertilizing can make them the same they would have been if properly led and worked the first year. Of course, the first year or two, they need a fertilizer strong in nitrogen. I suppose the cheapest source of nitrogen for us is cottonseed meal. COTTONSEED FOR FERTILIZER. The very best three hundred peach trees I have ever seen at 4 48 SEVENTH ANNUAL MEETING OF THE three-year-old were fertilized the first and second years with crushed cottonseed entirely. The trees matured a very large crop of fruit the third year, and the fruit was simply per¬ fection. I was astonished at the perfection of all of the fruit, as the trees were loaded down until the limbs lay on the ground. There was but little, if any, fertilizer put on the third year, so the strength, size and ability of the trees to matu- e a very large crop of fine fruit was from the feed of the first and second years. Discussion on Peaches and Plums. G. L. Taber — In his paper Col. Harvey conveys the im¬ pression that the Burbank and Abundance plums are very much alike, if not identical. I presume he intended to say that the Botan and Abundance were similar, if not the same. Botan is the name of a class of plums, and is applied rather indiscriminately to a number of varieties. Mr. Harvey — I referred to the Burbank and Abundance as being alike. As I have these varieties I see no difference. I got my Burbanks from Mr. Taber, and my Abundance from another source. Mr. Taber— I think the Colonel will find upon investiga¬ tion that he received more Burbanks under the name Abun¬ dance, and 1 think upon investigation he will agree wit h me that the two varieties are quite distinct, differing markedly both in fruit and foliage. The Abundance was first sent out as the Yellow Fleshed Botan, by which name it is still com¬ monly known. Of the Japan plums in my orchard I esteem Burbai.ks and Abundance as two ol the best varieties. John W. Harding— I would like to ask Mr. Harvey if any of the peaches referred to in his paper are free stones? Mr. Harvey— Yes, sir. W. W. Hawkins — I would like to ask in regard to plums. I have a large plum tree of the Kelsey variety, it blooms fully every year and never bears. What is the trouble ? Mr. Harvey — I could not tell you what the trouble is. The species you mention, the Kelsey, is not a good variety. J. W. Hendry — Have you given any attention to apricots ? FLORIDA STATE HORTICULTURAL SOCIETY. 49 Mr. Harvey — My boys have grown a few trees. I would like to say to those gentlemen who live in Middle Florida that it would be a paying investment to raise the Elberta peach.. It would be the best money crop that you could put in the ground. It will ship anywhere. It is a fine peach to ship and a fine peach to can, and a fine peach altogether. It is the superior of any peach. With me it ripens from the 5th to the 20th of July. 0. P. Rooks — I live in South Florida and I have tried the Elberta and it has universally proved a failure. We must try the oriental varieties entirely. There is a variety from Australia that is wonderfully prolific ; it is called the blood peach, but as to the Persian type, I have no faith in them. They have never made a success. There have been thous¬ ands of dollars spent in planting varieties not adapted to our soil and our country. It is a mistake for this Society to ap¬ point a committee from one part of this state to recommend a list of peaches to be planted in the whole state. We should follow the practice of the Georgia Horticultural Society and have a committee for each section. Mr. Taber — Mr. Harvey has a fine peach orchard. Mr. Mellish at DeFuniak has fine peaches. There are lots of peaches in the western country, but the conditions are en¬ tirely different from other sections of the state. I live thirty miles west of here and I cannot raise the same peaches that Mr. Harvey does. The Elberta I have in my orchards, but I do not get any crops from them. The Alexander is a fairly good peach. Its only value is on account of its earliness, which, of course, is a great item in a commercial way, where it succeeds, but we cannot raise it here with any profit. I cannot explain whv this is so. I am simply stating facts. Col. Harvey read about the Waldo being destroyed by frost with him ; with me it is one of the most reliable of the early kinds. At Waldo, a few miles south of here, they get crops of this variety almost every year. There is a great deal to be taken into consideration in peach growing in Florida. No man can make a list of peaches suitable to the entire state of Florida unless he runs through quite a large number of varie¬ ties, and those varieties will be differ°nt for the different sections. I think Col. Harvey should have explained that the Elberta is a seedling of the Chinese cling type. There is a distinction between this and the Persian type. Belonging to this Chinese type the Elberta is suitable to a section of the country where the Persian will not do. 1 have said be¬ fore that we cannot take Col. Harvey’s list of varieties and adopt them for this section. The people should understand that they must get the varieties suited to their section. 50 SEVENTH ANNUAL MEETING OF THE Mr. Harvey — In regard to this committee : The commit¬ tee was appointed to write a report on peaches and plums;. There was one gentleman from Orlando and one from Glen- wood appointed with myself. As I have said, we did not meet ; we had no correspondence and I have not seen the gentlemen yet. If we had got together, or had corresponded on the subject, I might have been able to submit ataore sat¬ isfactory report. I know full well in this state that the varieties that will do lor one section will not do for another, and it will take a lot of information and investigation, and a committee of this kind should have a correspondent in every section of the slate and bring the mass of correspondence before the Association to give satisfaction. I know that the finest varieties in one section have succeeded indifferently or failed in other portions of the state. There ought to be stretched over the state a committee to correspond with every section aud get the different kinds that are suitable to the different parts of the country. This might be satisfactory and useful to the Society. W. H. H. Holdridge — In Alachua county, as in Baker county, we cannot raise the variety of peaches that are raised, in West Florida. The Chinese type of peaches will do noth¬ ing with me. The Waldo and the Angel are all looking beautifully to day, and at least three years out of four I get a crop of Waldos and Angels when the later varieties fail. A. H. Carey— My experience has been a pretty extensive one. I have lor years lost money in peach culture and I would dislike to see people go into this business without a full knowledge of what they are doing and what fertilizers, etc., are needed. Prof. P. FI. Rolfs — I would like to ask Col. Harvey in re¬ gard to curculio. Does that bother you? Mr. Harvey — It does not affect any of our peaches if we have active trees. They affect old trees and eat up all the fruit, but there is no trouble on young and healthy trees. The young peaches seem to get so full of juice that the cur¬ culio does not like to bother them. Prof. Rolfs — Three years ago that seemed to be the con¬ dition at Lake City, but last year the peach crop was almost a total failure. It is quite a disease in our portion of Florida. What remedy has proved most effective in destroying the curculio ? I do not know whether our people have any knowledge on this subject. Mr. Harvey — I am using the London purple for this pest- on my plum trees, and I am meeting with success. The Buiv FLORIDA STATE HORTICULTURAL SOCIETY. 51 bank is comparatively free from the attack of curculio. Mr. Taber — In relation to the curculio : We have it and we have it badly. I have lost an entire crop from this pest and it is a hard question to answer what is the best remedy for it. There are solutions of arsenic that will kill it if you apply them often enough, but it is a great deal of work, and as the most of us know, we have at times to neglect these sprayings when we know they might be profitable. Perhaps the best method is to spread a sheet under the tree and jerk off* the curculio by hitting the tree a quick, sharp blow with a padded wooden mallet; this should be done very early in the morning (before sunrise, if possible), as at this time in the day the curculios are sluggish and relinquish their hold read¬ ily. The sheet can be drawn over a frame mounted on wheels, with a slot in the frame so that the tree can be jarred by pushing the frame against it. This jarring should be done every few days, commencing as soon as the blossoms fall and continuing until the fruit is half grown. The insects and stung fruit should be burned. Mr. Anderson, our treasurer, has charge of a very large plum orchard in New York state, and he tells me that they follow this method of jarring suc¬ cessfully. Duiing the early part of the season the operation is repeated, if my memory serves me, as often as twice a week. Of course this is a matter to be studied up by a man who has a large plum orchard and he must take into consider¬ ation the question as to whether it will pay him to do it. It is a very serious trouble. The Kelsey is one of the Japanese plums that is very seriously affected by this pest. The Bur¬ bank is not so much subject to the curculio as the Kelsey. C. A. Bacon— It is said that the “early bird catches the worm.” My experience with the Kelsey plum is that hens are the best remedy for the curculio. Let the hens do the work for you. Go out and shake the trees and let the hens pick up the worms. I have had great success in killing the borer. I put a few drops of kerosene in each hole and that seems to destroy them. T. K. Godbey — I think this subject of peaches and plums is a serious question. I might say a lew words that would interest a great many. As you all understand, I have been growing peaches and plums for twelve years in Florida and I have made it a success. I have tried all the Persian varieties and they have been failures. I have tried the Kelsey plum, but it was so subject to the curculio that I have cut all my Kelsey trees down. I find that the Burbank does very well. In cultivating peaches I find that they require an abundance of fertilizer. I must say that my best trees are on plum roots. Occasionally one dies, but I do not think I lose any 52 SEVENTH ANNUAL MEETING OP THE more on plum roots than I do on peach. I have tried dif¬ ferent ways of exteminating the borer. While it does not kill the tree, it injures it, and it takes more fertilizer to keep up the tree than it would if the tree were free from this insect. The remedy for root knot is to mulch the ground thoroughly and then leave it alone. I have applied potash to my peach trees. I could not tell where I applied it and I have never been able to tell where I put potash. I have used blood and bone or cotton seed meal and bone. I can buy this cheaper than I can any other kind of fertilizer. This year instead of cotton seed meal and bone I bought blood and bone as it furnishes the same material, and because I could buy a pound of nitrogen and a pound of phosphoric acid a little cheaper that way than I could in the form of cotton seed meal and bone. That is the way I buy fertilizers, and I always- look at the price and the analysis when I am buying. About Pears. The Committee on Apples and Pears submitting no report, the subject of Pears was discussed as follows: G. W. Mellish — Pears are doing veiy well around De Fu- niak. Our greatest enemy is the blight; that is about the only serious enemy we have. Pears are certainly a profitable fruit, and are very easy to raise. The bitter blight is a well known disease and I have no new remedy to offer. The only remedy I know of is to cut off all the blighted limbs just as soon as they appear, and the more thoroughly and quickly they are cut off the better. I have seen a good many orchards that have been neglected and they keep getting worse and worse. Orchards have been preserved in the midst of other orchards that were badly diseased, simply by cutting off the limbs. S. S. Harvey — I believe in the success of pear culture in* the State of Florida. I believe further, that at the present time it is the best paying crop as a permanent investment that pan be raised in this state. In my own neighborhood there has been no blight. We have never had any in m}^ county that I know of. I have a neighbor that has an orchard nearly £S large as mine, who came from California with the idea that FLORIDA STATE HORTICULTURAL SOCIETY. 53 he could make more money in Florida than he could in Cali¬ fornia. He thinks that the opportunity we have to get fruit through to the markets in from two to four days gives us & great advantage over California, where it takes from five to twelve days to reach markets. I had a talk several times with him over the matter of blight. His impression is that we are free from the blight from the fact that we have agreatdeal of iron and sulphur in our soil. To the west of us sixty miles they have the blight but we do not have it. I am hnder the constant dread of its attacking us in the future. I am going to meet it, and with this idea I have investigated the blight where it has occurred In this state and in South Georgia. If a man will attend to his grove immediately after it is attacked and cut out that portion which is blighted and then use the Bordeaux Mixture, I believe his orchard will not be damaged,. I went through De Funiak last June and I looked at the groves, and where I found the blight I found the men had let it take its course. I fou-id good groves that had no blight, but they had been carefully attended to. Mr. Dubose has a grove of pear trees that was reported to have been attacked severely, although attended to promptly and sprayed with Bordeaux Mixture. I looked at his grove, and when we got within fifty yards of the orchard I said: “You have no blight”. There was no appearance of blight whatever. He said: “Wait a little.” We then proceeded to the orchard and found the ground covered all over with ends and points of limbs that he had cut off from those trees; but I found there was no blight on the trees and there was a good lot of fruit on them. From my experience and observation I have concluded that the blight can be controlled if handled properly. I have seen orchards that were nearly destroyed by it, both in this state and in South Georgia, but I have reached the conclusion that if the proper means are taken, using Bordeau Mixture and cutting off the limbs, the blight will not materially affect the success of pear growing, and this is the course I shall adopt if my orchard is attacked. As to the cultivation of pears, I think the best trees to plant are one year old. I believe that the varieties most suited to us are the Le Conte and Keiffer. I do not believe in high fertilization. I believe the peach cannot be cultivated too rapidly; with the pear this is not the best plan. A small amount is sufficient to keep it active in growth, and that is all you want. Let it grow so that in eight or nine years it makes a good tree. I will give you the positive size of one of my trees. A few days ago I took the size exactly. It is one of the best trees on my place. It was set out in 1875. It is now thirty-one and a half feet high; I measured it with two 54 SEVENTH ANNUAL MEETING OP THE 1ashing*poles. This is the exact measurement. I dropped a plumb opposite the outer limb and measured across the space and it measured twenty-nine feet. The circumference of the trunk was thirty-four and a half inches. I estimate that this tree will carry twenty-five barrels of fruit. Last year I had two trees that were so heavily laden with fruit that they split to the ground and fell flat. I have heretofore estimated that an orchard should average ten barrels of lrnit to the tree at ten years old. I have written some articles on the subject and I have always made that estimate. I believe now that it would be possible for a man to make a grove of Le Conte pears at ten years old average twentyfive barrels to the tree. That would be 1,750 barrels to the acre. I sold my crop last year in Chicago principally, while I shipped to Nashville, Cincinnati and St. Louis, but the larger portion went to Chi¬ cago, and my fruit netted me $1.02 per barrel. These are the possibilities. It is possible for a man to raise 1,500 barrels on an acre often year old trees. I have a nice grove, and it certainly has proved successful. Whether it will continue so or not is a question ot the future. As to the quality of the Le Conte pear, two years aso I was in Chicago and I spent several days and nights on the fruit market there. I found at that time a great prejudice against the Le Conte pear. It had, prior to that time, gone mainly to the eastern cities; Philadelphia, Boston, Baltimore and New York. A very prominent commission naan in Chicago said to me that he did not think much of our Le Conte peats. I did not see or hear from him again until last spring, when I de¬ cided to ship his house my fruit. I sent him a carload to be¬ gin with, and after selling that carload he wrote me that he had revised his opinion of the Le Conte; that this carload had sold better than any other pears on the market and that he believed the Le Conte the best early market pear. The Le Contes brought more than the Bartlett at almost every sale; this was quite encouraging. With my experience and from what I have seen, I have reached the conclusion that there is no equal to the Le Conte for marketing. Gr. P. Healy — I would like to hear from Col. Harvey as to his method of gathering the fruit. Mr. Harvey — I use cheap ladders in gathering my pears. I have one fifteen feet high, one twenty feet high, and one twenty-eight feet, with others even higher. I put two ladders together at the top, tying them with three-fourths inch rope. This makes a step ladder of two single ladders. I put two men on the ladders and they go up in the trees. They carry with them a sack with straps over the shoulder, such as is commonly used in gathering oranges. These sacks are made FLORIDA STATE HORTICULTURAL SOCIETY. 55 of ordinary gunny cloth; an oat sack will make four such picking sacks. 1 discovered after a little experimenting that it was a bad plan to let the ladders get over into the trees. The pickers have a stick with a hook on the end hanging upon the ladders, and to get the fruit at the ends of the long single limbs, they draw the limbs gently to them with these hooks. A man on the ground takes the sacks which the pickers let down and lays them down in a basket, pouring tliefn out by gently lifting the sack so as not to braise the Iruit. The wagon comes round through the orchard and carries the fruit to the packing house. I put up my fruit in boxes of three sizes, large, small and medium. I papered a large portion last year. This was done by girls and women. I used a paper about the same that you would use to cover oranges with. I pack in the California boxes. I find that papering the fruit in a box of pears costs five cents. That includes labor and cost of paper. I put them in cars at my depot, piling them seven tiers deep. This is a little too much to put in an ordinary car. I would not ad¬ vise putting in more than 600 boxes. I packed most of mine 800 to the car. I laid the boxes in the car endwise, but I leave spaces between each tier ol about four inches. After I lay a tier I get strips and lay them across each tier. I so pile up to the top and ship in that way. I think it would be well for us to correspond with the railroad companies and request them to put better springs under their ventilator cars. By this means they would save us thousands of dollars worth of fruit in the season. The swinging of the cars is very hard on the fruit. G. L. Taber — What is the weight of the material used in making your boxes ? Mr. Harvey — It is very light material, weighing about two pounds to the box. It is still a question whether it pays to paper pears. It pays though, to ship in smaller packages. I would not ship my pears in barrels, although I have been re¬ quested by the commission men to do it. They do this for this reason: The retail dealers want it in barrels because they get more fruit at a given price. The same thing applies to pa¬ pering. The fruit dealer does not want it papered. If it is papered he gets forty pounds of fruit. If it is not papered he gets forty-nine pounds. The fruit goes in better condition when papered; the chances are lor better arrival. You must consider that you have to be out five cents for labor and paper with the chances of your fruit going to market in prime con¬ dition, against the disposition on the part of the retail dealers to get all the fruit they can for the smallest amount of money. Bruit packed in small packages, in a neat manner, beautifully 56 SEVENTH ANNUAL MEETING OF THE papered, will take the eye of the purchasers. They will say that they would not take so much pains unless the fruit were good. On the other hand, if the fruit is packed in barrels and shipped to the northern market, it is more likely to arrive in bad condition. I would not ship my pears in barrels if I knew they would bring me as much with less trouble. I have a sentiment in regard to it. I do not want to see my fruitgo that -way to the market. I am looking to the future, and I do not believe that is the way to build up and hold a fancy trade. W. H. H. Holdridge — What does the railroad charge for the weight on the box ? Mr. Harvey — I do not pay by the box, but by the hundred pounds. Here is an account of sales that I have had in my pocket for the purpose of showing the railroad people. This is a carload of 812 boxes of pears shipped to Chicago. The freight was $250.55. As you will see, that is just about twenty-five cents per box. This I think too much. This car¬ load sold for $1,096.65. I had cars containing as much as. this go to Chicago for $165. T. J. Stubbs — I would like to make a suggestion in connec¬ tion with Mr. Harvey’s statements. He advocated Bordeaux Mixture for pear blight, but I would advocate a trial of sul¬ phate of iron instead of sulphate of copper. We have experi mented with that kind of mixture, and apparently received a great deal of benefit. We expect to continue with it, and I would like to have other trials of the same thing. I would ask that a trial be made with the sulphate of iron instead of sulphate of copper. Prof. P. If. Bolfs — From the careful experimenting that has been going on in Fiance, and by the Department of Agricul¬ ture, the conclusion has been reached that the Bordeaux Mix¬ ture is the proper thing and not the sulphate of iron; that the copper compound is much more efficacious th>ui the iron sul¬ phate. It is much preferable. I think it has been used to a considerable extent and been tested by a great many persons, ao we can no longer be divided as to that and as to the treat¬ ment of the pear blight. The limbs that are cut off should be taken from the orchaid in*tead of being left there. There is a liability for insects to fly to those limbs on the ground and carry the bacteria to the tree again, and the wind would be li¬ able to do the same thing. It would be well to be careful that those blighted limbs are destroyed quickly. In regard to pear blight in West Florida, specimens of infected trees have been sent me from West Florida. I think what Mr. Harvey has suggested in regard to the blight should be rigidly car¬ ried out, and the disease should be carefully watched to pre¬ vent its development in districts not now affected. FLORIDA STATE HORTICULTURAL SOCIETY. 57 Strawberries. Prepared and submitted by H. E. Stoddard, of Nassau. Putnam county, Chairman Standing Committee on Strawberries. The strawberry occupies a large space in the recollections of our childhood. Memory of the wide, waving meadow is dear to us for thoughts of the luscious, red berry which g»*ew so abundantly there. The “old oaken bucket which rose from the well” refreshed, but the tall, green grass hid and sheltered a rub}T treasure which satisfied our souls. We have now come to maturity. Romance has gone with the passing of years and the strawberry is — what is was not in our earlier days— a commercial fact as well as an almost universal luxury. To consider its culture as an article of commerce and also as a gratification of our personal taste is the object of this report. We will first specify the qualities which make when united the perfected strawberry so desirable : It must be swt here I want to ask an other question: Is there a seedless pomelo or grape fruit ? I have seen frequent references lately to a seedless grape fruit, and I should like to know if there is a variety which has no seeds. A. G. Avery — We have some kinds with comparatively few seeds. I do not think there is a variety that is entirely seedbss. Prof. W. T. Swingle— There is one point I would like to mention: While at the World’s Fair last summer I sf ent some time trying to di-cover the exhibits of citrus fruits, and must say it was a hard search. I finally found them. One of the finest exhibits was made by the government of Japan in the Educational Building. There I found a well written catalogue in English, on the varieties grown in Japan. Fif¬ teen or twenty varieties of oranges were described. These or¬ anges were represente*! by models, were well described and showed that there are much finer oranges in Japan than we have imparted from there. 1 hope when our Importing Soci¬ ety is formed we shall get hold of these fine fruiis from Japan. Diseases and Insects of Citrus. Paper submitted by Wm. A. Marsh, of Orlando, Orange County, member of the Committee * n Diseases and Insects ot Citrus. In approaching, and making the attempt to handle this subject, I feel rather timid, coming as I do before the veter¬ ans of citriculture. But I hope that my piper may be the FLORIDA STATE HORTICULTURAL SOCIETY. 67 means of provoking a discussion that will result in good. In treating the subject before us, I shall call to my aid a special bulletin of the Louisiana State Experiment Station, which treats of insects injurious and beneficial that infest the citrus in that state, Florida and California. Every grower should have this work, which I presume may be obtained by addressing H. C. Newsom, Commissioner of Agriculture, Baton Rouge. INSECTS. One of the most troublesome of which is the Florida red scale (Aspdiotus Ficus Ashmead). It is round, ol a choco¬ late color with a red spot in the center, a little less than a sixteenth of an inch in diameter They breed with wonder¬ ful rapidity and spread over a grove in a very short space of time. It has been aptly described as “the most devilish of all scale insects,” and it seems to come in a night. I believe it the most difficult to destroy. The adult red scale seems almost invulnerable, and the best time to fight them is when hatching, almost anything in the way of an insecticide will kill them at this time. They seem to be most active about the first of April and the latter part of August. The oyster shell scale ( Mytilaspis Pomorum Bouche) seems to be the most common in Florida, and the least destructive. I have found that they could generally be disposed of by giving the tree some fertilizer. Another, the barnacle scale ( Ceroplas - tes Floridensis) , as his name implies, has the appearance of a barnacle, is white with a slight pinkish tinge, and when crushed exudes a liquid that has the appearance of blood. This scale is most otten seen on young trees, and may be easily destroyed by a few applications of soapsuds. This insect is about three thirty seconds of an inch in diameter. Aley- rodes Citrifolii is a scale frequently seen on the leaves and stems of our trees, and appears as little white dots, some¬ times almost completely covering the leaves and small twigs. This insect finally hatches into a small white fly or miller, its wings having a delicate purplish tinge. It is often very troublesome, and wherever smut fungus is found this scale generally accompanies it. Smut fungus has the appe irance of soot, and a tree affected looks as though it had been liber¬ ally dusted with soot. No doubt many of you have noticed numbers of your .oranges, otherwise good, with a little hole eaten through the oil cells to the white portion of the peel. I found the little villain that does the work. There will be seen a little pointed , cocoon, yery ragged in appearance, attached to the orange, and has for its inhabitant a small black worm. What form ..of miller or fly it hatches into I do not know. The cocoons 68 SEVENTH ANNUAL MEETING OF THE may be seen sticking to the leaves, and even to the sides of buildings and fences in the fall. Now is the time when we are most troubled with the orange aphis. This little insect varies in color from light green to black. They live on the juices of the young leaves, but do not occur in sufficient numbers to do any great damage. One of the worst enemies of the orange is the “orange dog,” an ugly, disgusting, hairless caterpillar, which, when touched, protrudes two red horns and emits a terrible odor. They feed on the young leaves, and it is wonderful the amount of foliage one of them will consume. They do great injury to young trees. The butterfly of this ugly larva is very beautiful, the wings above are crossed with yellow spots, while below they are yellow with black veins. On the tail-like projection of each hind wing is an eye-like spot of yellow, while near the inner angle of the same wing is another spot of red and blue. The female deposits her eggs on the most tender leaves of the tree- these hatch in a few days. The larval condition is passed in from ten to fifteen days,, when the pupa state is entered, where it remains during the summer months. Six or seven broods may be hatched in one season, so it is well f es, sir. Prof. Webber — Afier you have the material mixed up, what is the proportion of dilution that you use? Mr. Duncan — The same as yours. I use a little less of the rosin. Prof. Webber — Do you merely dilute one part to one part, as in the formula generally given? Mr. Duncan — I put in about five gallons of the preparation to make fifty gallons of spray. Prof. Webber — One of the points I make in regard to my method of preparing the wash is that in using 98 per cent, caustic soda one can prepare it with so short a boiling and then dilute it more times than in the usual formula, that is, one part to nine. Mr. Duncan — There is one thing y3u all ought to know. It would not be well to apply the spray when the fruit is young, as it will neutralize tne acid. I once had an experi¬ ence of this kind. I followed the advice of a California writer. The acid of the fruit was completely neutralized. We did not know until the fruit was matured what was the matter, or what caused it. We found out that it was this spray. Do not put the spray on at this time of the year, and not until the fruit is of considerable size. About June is the proper time, I think. Prof. Webber — In spraying for the White fly }7ou would necessarily make the first applications before the fruit comes on. You should make your first applications probably in January or February. The second period of spraying comes from about the middle of May to the middle of June. This spraying could be delayed until the fruit had become quite large. In treating other scale insects you can change the time. I was not, however, aware that any injury of this sort was produced by the rosin washes. FLORIDA STATE HORTICULTURAL SOCIETY. 81 C. A. Bacon — Would it not be more effective to spray im¬ mediately afier the flies disappear when the scale is more tender? Would they not be more tender after the laying of the egg? Prof. Webber — I would wait until the eggs are hatched. The eggs are protected by a coating which it is hard to pen¬ etrate. Mr. Bielby — I would like to ask the Professor if he has any reason to suppose that the injury to the quality of the fruit which Mr. Duncan speaks of was due to this wash? Prof. Webber — I have not before heard of such injury bp- in g produced by washes of this kind. Mr. Bielby — Have you ever heard that they hurt the qual¬ ity of the orange? Prof. Webber — I have not, but such things do not always get into print. One of the main reasons for which the rosin wash is recommended is that it will kill scales much better when they are attached to the fruits than other insecticides, especially kerosene emulsion. This would indicate that they are at least not known to produce injury to the fruits. H. VV. Marsh — I would like to sayr that Mr. J. E. Wilbur, of South Lake Weir, and Mr. Tilson, of Orange Bend, have told me that they are using Thrip juice, and that they hnve shipped their fruit a month earlier than usual, which they at¬ tribute to the effects of Thrip juic«. This was reported by two different men, who had no connection with each other at all. Some one asked Prof. Webber what effect Thrip juice had on the scale. Prof. Webber — I have not tried it on any scale insect ex¬ cept the White fly. Here it did not give satisfactory results, and cannot be recommended. A. D. Moore — I met a gentleman on the train who told me that he had eradicated the White fly with Thrip juice. Mr. Warren — I tried Thrip juice three years ago and found that it killed the White fly. Last year they came in great numbers a second time. I tried Thrip juice again and the first application finished them all. L. Montgomery — When the oranges matured were they full of acid? Mr. Warren — Yes, every one that tasted them said they were exceedingly nice and sweet. Mr. Duncan — I have a word to say about bi-sulphate of soda. I know two men that used this stuff on their trees and 82 SEVENTH ANNUAL MEETING OF THE their oranges were worthless. One of them, Mr. Hoyt, gave me a sample of his oranges, and there was no acid in them at all. 1 take the position that bi-sulphate of soda will neutral¬ ize the acid in the fruit. Edward Winter — The spreading of diseases and insects- of the citrus is a matter of such serious importance that it seems to me we should make some effort to prevent it. I have recently seen nursery stock badly infested, if we can take steps to prevent such pests being disseminated I think we should do it. Mr. Bacon — It cannot be done. It is impracticable. These- troubles are spread in many ways we cannot reach or control. Take the smut for instance; it thrives anywhere, it will even- grow on potatoes. Five years ago I discovered it < n the palmetto trees about my place. It spread quite rapidly, but for a year I did not see any on my bearing orange trees,. Then I began to see a little on my large trees, and the third year 1 began to get worried. The tiees bloomed well, but dropped their fruit, dead limbs began to appear, a great many leaves dropped off; in the fall you coul 1 see through Mandarin trees that formerly you could not thrust your arm into. The fourth year I got a spraying outfit and went to1 work. I used a lime and sulphur solution, the recipe can be obtained from the Farmer and Fruit Grower. Mr. Duncan — A good deal of the smut found upon orange and other trees is not produced by, or rather does not follow the White fly. We had smut on orange trees before we ever heard of the White fly. This smut is easily destroyed by the rosin wash. G. P. Healy — Some time since I supposed I had the White fly. I was discouraged. The grove seemed in a bad fix, and the fruit was getting very black. Ab >ut that time Prof. Webber arrived. We examined the trees and in my case the sooty mould was found to be following the wax srale instead of the White fly. It was a bad case, but I used Thrip juice and cleaned almost all the smut off the trees. The owner of one grove we visited while Prof. Webber was at my place said he had had the smut (but not following the White fly) and had gotten rid of it by the use of tobacco juice. At another place we found the sooty mould following the White fly* and the owner assured us that he had not succeeded in finding anything that was effective in destroying it. Prof. Webber — In reg trd to tobacco juice: The trees Maj. Healy and I saw did seem to be effected by the tobacco juice, but to what extent it had been effective as a remedy for the sooty mould could not be determined. I tried tobacco- FLORIDA STATE HORTICULTURAL SOCIETY. 83 juice in Tour different strengths on the White fly, in my experiments at Gainesville. The solution is apparently im¬ practicable, as it kills only about 15 per cent, of the larvae or pupa of the fly. Continuing in reply to the question of a member : I consider the rosin wash or rosin soap, discussed in my remarks on the subject, as probably the best remedy for the White fly. I learn from inquiry that this pest appar- vently first became serious at Panasoffkee. It appeared there ^some seventeen or eighteen years ago. H. B. Stephens — I have a grove at Panasoflkee, started about five years ago. Shortly afterward the White fly ap¬ peared. I did not know what it was at first, but found later That it was the White fly, and that it was the worst enemy we thad. They spread very easily ; the trains undoubtedly carry Them from one section to another. Last year we commenced operations against the White fly. We burned tobacco, sul¬ phur and Dalmation powder under the trees, confining the fumes by a tnnt over the trees, but did not find this effective, rand confined ourselves to tobacco juice and sulphur solution. In the fall there was no smut on the fruit, and I felt that I had accomplished something. This spring Prof. Webber came through and examined the trees and he said he did not find any living insects on them. Mr. Duncan — How to destroy the White fly is what we all want to know. This rosin wash acts like a varnish and will be more lasting than anything else. Sulphur solution will dry and wash ofi the tree, but the rosin wash will last two or three weeks unless t he rains are very heavy. I think the rosin wash is the best for the White fly. Mr. Bacon — I think, myself, that the rosin wash is the most effective of the two ; but the sulphur and lime solution does not wash off immediately. You can smell the sulphur Tor months after an application. Geo. R. Fairbanks — I wish to say something about insect pests. 1 came to Florida fifty years ago. The orange trees had been previously cut to the ground by the cold. They had grown up rapidly from the roots and about the time they came into bearing again I was at St. Augustine. At this time the scale insect appeared. It was said to have been brought in upon trees imported from Italy. In the course of five years it had attacked every tree at St. Augustine and along the St. Johns river. The trees looked as if a fire had gone through them, and everybody said there was no use try¬ ing to do anything with them. They left them alone. In a ■few years, from some cause or other, the insects disappeared .and orange culture revived. It was said that the insect had 84 SEVENTH ANNUAL MEETING OF THE been introduced from Nice. Application was made though the State Department for information regarding it. It was found that they did not know anything about it in Italy. Finally an old man was found who had some knowledge of it ; and an old book was also found (which l>ook I have) which treated of this pest as it had appeared in the neighborhood of Nice, and went on to say that all the oranges were blighted and going to destruction and proposed certain remedies. The fact I wish to call attention to is that this pest once so much feared at Nice is no longer known as a serious enemy there. This pest, so prevalent here fifty years ago, which we have had since 1842 and which we know now in a modified degree, has not proved a serious obsticle to the development of our orange industry. In view of these facts, I do not think we need fear that our orange industry is going to perish, or even suffer serious injury from the ravages of these enemies of more recent introduction which have been referred to. Truck Farming. Paper prepared b/ J. A. M< ore, of PeusacoH, Escambia county, Chair¬ man Committee on Vegetables, and read by the Secretary. The raising of vegetables for family use only, as practiced by our forefathers in their little gardens laid out in squares to be dug and cultivated exclusively by hand, is a thing of the past, and in its stead we have the broad acres of the truck farmer, tilled with the most approved labor saving imple¬ ments. Wheel hoes for hand use, scarifiers, cultivators and harrows for horse; the seeds and commercial fertilizers are applied with similar apparatus. Thus equipped, the truck farmer takes rank among the most prosperous of our citizens. The raising of vegetables for the northern and western mar¬ ket < is becoming one of the leading industries of our state, and is largely increasing each year, and a few years will find our state almost one entire vegetable garden, sending out solid trains where now we send single cars. Our friends in the southern part of our state are particu¬ larly favored by having a climate during the winter months to be found nowhere else in the United States, where the ten- derest vegetables, like the tomato, egg plant, beans, cucum- FLORIDA STATE HORTICULTURAL SOCIETY. 85 bers, etc., grow to the greatest perfection and bring big prices. I saw only a few days ago account sales for thirty crates beans shipped from Bartow to a Chicago commission mer¬ chant that sold for $128, or an average of $4.2t per crate; it is true the railroads or express company charged $30 for freights. The commission man charged $12 for selling them, $10 perhaps covered all the other expenses. You will see the shipper netted, with all this enormous expense, $2.50 per crate. Of course this is an extra price, indeed it is, but it shows that there are people that will eat beans it matter not what they cost, and if that shipper had had 1,000 crates to ship the day he shipped those, there still would have been nearly 2,000,000 people in Chicago that had no beans for din¬ ner that day. I mention this to show you that there is no' possible chance of ever overstocking the hungry snow-bound cities of the north with fresh vegetables during the winter months. Almost every kind of vegetable is grown in our matchless climate, but for shipment to northern markets, cabbage, pota¬ toes, Bermuda onions, tomatoes, beans, peas, egg plants, squashes, and cucumbers form the bulk of the shipments in some localities. Cauliflower and celery are very successfully grown, and will in a few years be leading articles; and nearly always bring good prices. The best time to plant the different kinds of vegetables must be determined by the locality and surrounding circumstances. It would be lolly for the grower of West Florida to plant his tomatoes, egg plants and beans in December or January; if it be done during a cessation of extreme cold, the return of winter weather or an unreasonable frost may in a single night destroy the labor of many weeks (as it has done in the past few weeks). In West Florida we generally plant our cabbige, peas, beets, turnips, onions, let¬ tuce and all hardy vegetables from August 15 to December 1. Potatoes in January and February. Right here I want to- dispel the idea of not saving our own seed potatoes;, thou¬ sands of dollars are sent out of our state everv vear for seed V 1/ when we allow the best seed we can possibly get to rot in our fields. If we let our potatoes get thoroughly ripe, dig them in a dry time, remove them immediately and out in a cool, dry place* (under the house is a good place) they will keep perfectly sound. About the 15th of August bed them like you would sweet potatoes (I mean the small one about the size of a wal¬ nut). Keep the bed moist and partly shaded for ten or twelve days when they will be nicely sprouted, have your land ready and plant the whole potato. If the seasons are good by the 1st of November you will have a good crop ot potatoes. These 86 SEVENTH ANNUAL MEETING OF THE potatoes raised in the fall are the very best seed that can be planted the following spring. They are earlier, more produc¬ tive and are superior in every respect. The potato and cabbage, like most all vegetable crops, re¬ quire the very best culture, and the soil can hardly be made too rich. The late Peter Henderson said to grow any kind of vegetable crops successfully, “you must use the right kind of fertilizer, and to put on the land just twice as much as you thought it needed, then put on as much more and you would have just about half enough,” if this applied to New York soil, I will leave the growers of Florida to be their own judges. Discussion on Vegetables. 'K H. Gaitskill — I think Mr. Moore is correct in saying that beans pay handsomely at times; for instance, one of my neighbors had a nice crop last year ready to pick when the frost took them all off. I live in a section of the country where we grow lots of vegetables, and I think I can say that they are profitable one year with another, as much so as any crops grown in Florida except pineapples; we cannot quite equal Captain Richards’ 300 per cent, a year. (See Pine¬ apples, page 35.) Last year we made some money out of cabbage. This year we sell them at 40 cents a box, and that does not pay us much. We ship seven or eight carloads a day. We have some little trouble with cabbage this year that is new to us. I think it is a little like the red spider on the pineapples. This trouble seems to be between the leaves and the ground; the stalk seems to rot. So far we do not know what it is. No great damage has resulted, though.’ I cannot say anything particularly about vegetables unless some man wants to know something of the country and what we do there. I can give more satisfaction by answering ques¬ tions. It is an everyday business with us, and we do noi see many points to talk on. We grow all kinds of vegetables, and ship plenty of them. We make lots of tomatoes. We get good money for these. We have one drawback. One of my neighbors had twenty acres in cabbage last year. He shipped 4,000 crates, and the railroads got out of those 4,000 FLORIDA STATE HORTICULTURAL SOCIETY. 87 crates just $160 an acre. He would be willing to sell his land for less money than that, and we have this drawback to contend with. While I think vegetable growing, with the proper men to grow them, is profitable, I do not think the indiscriminate growing of vegetables is advisable. C. A. Bacon — How does Mr. Gaitskill fertilize, and what does he use? I suppose he uses any fertilizer he cau get. What is the state of the soil? One of my neighbors remarked to me the other day: “I am sorry we cannot use stable man¬ ure.” I used it but it killed my plants. The manure did not kill the plants, but the worms in it did. I do not under¬ stand how to apply it to orange trees, and 1 cannot use it on vegetables, on strawberries or onions. I would like to know how to use it. I want to keep stock, and I want to save every cent I can. I think the manure should pay for one half of the feed, but I cannot use it. Mr. Gaitskill — That is rather a new idea that you cannot use stable manure. I have a small kitchen garden something larger than this room. I have three horses; I feed them well, and I put all the manure in that garden. I never had the trouble you speak of. I used good quantities of potash along with the manure, and that may have had something to do with it. As to the fertilizers we use. We use all sorts of fertilizers; some use cotton-seed meal only for tomatoes, and various kinds of fertilizers for various crops; some use one brand and some use others. As to what is best, I cannot say. In regard to Mr. Moore’s report on potatoes; I have pota¬ toes all the year round. I cover them about a foot deep with straw, and when they mature I go and dig' them. I do not find anv trouble with them. I do not even take the trouble to dig them, but let them stay in the ground until I am ready for them. 1 use stable manure on potatoes and on¬ ions successfully; at the same time, as I say, I use lots of potash, too, and use -some phosphoric acid in the shape of dissolved bone. I have more trouble with moles than with anything else; they follow after an application of cotton-seed meal, but I do not use much cotton-seed meal. Question— How do you get rid of the worms? Mr. Gaitskill— I don’t try to get rid of them. I try to get enough feed in the ground for the worms and the plants, too. I find the best thing to do is to feed the worms. Mr. Bacon — How do you apply the stable manure; for in¬ stance, to cabbage, Irish potatoes and general garden truck? Mr. Gaiaskill— Before the ground is broken up for the crop I distribute it and plow it under, The ground is not 88 SEVENTH ANNUAL MEETING OF THE ready for planting, though, until the manure has rotted. When the manure has rotted then it is ready for the vege¬ tables. I think potash can be used at any time; as to the quantity, as Mr. Moore said, apply “about twice as much as you think you should put on, then you have half enough. n In planting vegetables, I think you can put from 300 to 400 pounds of potash to the acre to advantage; I use potash in the form of sulphate. I do not use muriate on vegetables, es¬ pecially tomatoes. I have but little truck growing compara¬ tively, and most of the potash I get is for orange trees. 0. P. Rooks — What kind of straw do you use? Mr. Gaitskill — The straw I use on my potatoes is refuse hay. I make plenty of crab grass hay and use the refuse from the stacks in mv horse lot. 1 do not know that it is »/ any better than pine straw. I do not live in a pine straw country. It is immeteriai whether you cover the straw with dirt or not. I threw mv stable manure over the ground two inches thick, had my seed ready, put my potatoes in the fur¬ rows and just turned the ground over. I plow very shallow. I do not plant them more than one and one-half inches in the. ground. I am trying to get along without much work. Mr. Rooks — Mr. Gaitskill says the only trouble he has is with moles. I understand the moles live on the worms in the manure. Mr. Bacon — There are some points in regard to the use of stable manure that I would like to know. In the first place, can we throw stable manure on top of the ground and not lose one-half or two-thirds ,of its benefit? Will it not pass off in the air? If we bury it under the ground, and it is lull of worms, will not the ground be full of moles? Fow the ques¬ tion is, how can we use stable manure? If we throw it on top of the ground the moles do not trouble us, but it is dissi¬ pated; if we bury it, the moles and worms trouble us. We do not get much benefit from stable manure on top of the ground unless we are certain of putting it on when we know we are going to have a heavy rain. The grubs destroy my vege¬ tables, and for the last year I have quit using the stable manure tor that purpose; the radishes and cabbage were all cut up by the grubs. Lyman Phelps — There is good enough sulphate of mag¬ nesia in sulphate of potash to fix the ammonia in stable man¬ ure so that there is no waste; neither can the grubs find good living there. Moles will not find good living there, and noth¬ ing will stay where it cannot find good living. H. G. Hastings — Stable manure lias in every case been? used with sulphate of potash round my place, fn regard to FLORIDA STATE HORTICULTURAL SOCIETY. 89 raising Irish potatoes: There are people who make mistaken every year about planting, selecting and raising potatoes. They will buy northern-grown potatoes and plant those in the fall, and the result is that three-fourths of the potatoes will rot in the ground. The one way to make a successful crop is to save the seed from the spring before. Another thing I wish to remark in regard to Mr. Moore’s paper, that is, his statement of prices on beans. When this society sends out reports they should be made on a reasonable basis. That report would make a newcomer think that all beans sold for that price. We know that this is not so. Beans under proper circumstances will pay a reasonable profit on the invest¬ ment, but I say again that we must send out reports on a reasonable basis. Lyman Phelps — There is one point that should be clearly understood. We are talking as though the whole of Florida is one distinct climate, while we have four distinct climates, and if we can get things so arranged that we can get reports from one section and then another, it can be understood bet¬ ter. It is not clear to everyone now. We should have dif¬ ferent reports from different climates. The time for planting Irish potatoes varies from two to six months in different parts of the state. Mr. Hastings — Have the tomatoes been affected by blight this season as much as last? Prof. P. H. Rolfs — Black rot affected them more than any¬ thing else. It has been a great deal worse than at present. The vegetable grub is in Florida this year to the extent that it was last, but this is a little earlier than the bad reports were brought out last year. There was very little blight in Polk county. The blight is not so bad this year as it was last; we can say that as a whole. Mr. Healy — The use of stable manure on vegetables has been one of the most expensive as a fertilizer that I could use. A ton of stable manure at its best is probably worth on the land $2; that is its outside value. Its distribution is very expensive, and its action in cultivation is very bad, and it is * difficult to cultivate small vegetables where you u?e stable manure. Commercial fertilizers are more easily applied, and I will stick to them. Gf. H. Wright — There is no value to stable manure accord¬ ing to Mr. Healy. I have been using stable manure and I am growing two good crops a year. I take my ground and cover it over two or three inches with stable manure, make a fur¬ row and put my potatoes in it. The stable manure goes on a soil of fine sand on which I nise my potatoes, and I then 90 SEVENTH ANNUAL MEETING OF THE cover the potatoes with pine straw. There are six inches of it over the top of the ground. I do not plant until the 1st of February, and about the 1st of April I put on about 200 pounds of sulphate potash to the acre. When my potatoes are ready to dig I rake off the straw, and in gathering the potatoes I leave the small ones under the ground; the large potatoes are taken from the ground. I then spread my straw as evenly as I can, and my second crop is planted. That makes my fall crop of potatoes, and if any fertilizer gives better results than my stable manure I would like to know how it is done. I consider stable manure as one of the most valuable fertilizers we have. There are a great many things in stable manure which are very valuable to the soil of Flor¬ ida. I get from my pine straw a great deal of potash, I think, and I find it valuable. As for the worms, I am not troubled by them at all. I get rid of those by putting on /finely powdered tobacco stems. Mr. Montgomery — In regard to straw for Irish potatoes: We find almost any kind of straw — pine straw, or any kind of litter tramped up a little so as to break it up — put on Irish potatoes will do. We have used broom sedge more than any¬ thing else, but we have used pine straw. No fertilizer is better than manure for oranges. ! he Best Lawn Grass For Florida. H. A. Stoddard— I want to ask a question before the liext report is taken up. I am very desirous of raising a lawn. Some recommend one kind of grass and some recommend another. I want to know if there is anyone present who is using Bermuda grass ? G. P. Healy — If there is irrigation I do not see how any¬ one can make a more beautiful lawn than with Bermuda grass. I have used Bermuda grass for this purpose ever since I had it. With irrigation it makes a beautiful lawn. There is not a time in the year when it is not green. The only trouble I ever had with Bermuda grass was when it had gone through an unusually hot summer, but with a good coating of fertilizer FLORIDA STATE HORTICULTURAL SOCIETY. 91 and plenty of water, any man can have a beautiful lawn witln Bermuda grass. Replying to questions Mr. Healy continued I have found cotton seed meal to be the best fertilizer for this grass that I have ever used. Any complete fertilizer is* as good. The use of cotton seed meal and wood ashes applied together would not do. I generally make one application of cotton seed meal in the spring of the year and later in the- season I give a coating of wood ashes. I have never used potash. I have got good result* from cotton seed meal and wood ashes. I put a heavy two-horse harrow al over my lawn late in the fall. It mak s it lumpy for a few days, but it does certainly add to the growth of it for the balance of the year. If you have irrigation you will not need this. Edward Winter — Have you ever tried nitrate of soda? Mr. Healy — No. I think you get in the cotton seed meal all the potash and ammonia you need. Mr. Stoddard — Do you have any trouble in keeping Ber¬ muda grass from spreading ? I do not want it spreading, all over tne place. Mr. Healy — I will answer the gentleman that I could not get the grass to spread enough. I think, though, I would be- very careful it I had a kitchen garden n» ar my lawn. You should not use the same plo w on your kitchen garden that you use on your lawn. If you u*e the Bermuda grass for mulching, of c >urse it might spread, I know tint it can bn carried in stable manure. 1 am sati>fied that Bermuda grass can be carried in stable ma >ure, for I have had it in my sweet potato patch. I have found this grass there when I could not account for it in any other way except fr om the use of stable manure. It is possible that the seed might be dropped therein some way. From my experience it can be carried in¬ stable manure. In a sweet potato patch it is not likely to spread. Bermuda grass wants fertilizer and a good deal of it. I give my grass plenty of fertilizer. Gk L. Taber — I think Mr. Healy has some very good ground to grow Bermuda grass upon. It will grow upon almost any soil. It is very hard to keep out of ground where there is any chance for it to grow. I am a little under the impression that in a few years a good many of us like the Major will want more of it. I think it is a good thing where you want it. A. H. Carey — If you allow your horse to graze on Ber¬ muda grass and you take that hoise anywhere else on your place, you will find the grass will grow. S, H. Gaitskill— I have seen in this Society muck men,. 92 SEVENTH ANNUAL MEETING OF THE fertilizer men and stable manure men. but this is the first time that I have heard men say that Bermuda grass would not grow. In our county there is no fertilizer needed to make the grass grow. It is a fertilizer of itself and fertilizes itself. We do not need any outside htlp. We cannot get rid ot the grass when we want to. It is a singular thing to me that a man will say that this grass needs fertilizer or anything else. Itjgrows without any aid in the world. It grows all over an ash pile. Now, can anyone tell me how to kill it when I want to kill it. H. W. Marsh — I have seen Bermuda grass come out of a five-foot p -st hole. If you want it lor a lawn you have to fertilize. It is very difficult to kill it out, but it would not make a pretty lawn without fertilizer. Mr. Healy — It is not a question of its growing. It is a question of its getting green and beautiful. It will grow on my lawn without cultivation, but it will not be a thing of beauty. I have to use fertilizers to produce the good effects. F. D. Waite— I have a little spot in my yard, probably fifteen feet square. For two years I have been trying to get my lawn to cover that patch, but I have been unsuccessful. Prof. P. H. Rolfs — I would like to ask about the Texas blue grass. I have seen very fine lawns of that. Is this peculiar to our section (Columbia county). I have seen two plats that were high and dry that produced a good crop of Blue grass. Etas any one had experience with this grass ? G. W. Mellish — I have planted Texas Blue grass. During this last spring I fertilized it and it came up and is spreading more than I had any idea that it would. I have strong hopes that it is going to seed and I am certaiu of getting a lawn now. I do not know that it would grow from seeds, but I know that it will grow from roots. I have no trouble to get rid of it when I want. Prof. Rolfs — The advantage of Texas grass over Bermuda grass is that it is easily got rid of. W. M. Bennett — I was about to suggest a mode for confin¬ ing Bermuda grass to reasonable limits, but after hearing the testimony I feel a little diffident about giving my experience. I have Bermuda grass on my place. I took some planks and set them on edge and confined the grass in that way. I buried the planks about one and one-half inches in the ground. The most important matter for our consideration is how deep the grass grows. We can watch it above ground, but we can¬ not below ground. How far will it grow under ground? To FLORIDA STATE HORTICULTURAL SOCIETY. 93 exterminate Bermuda grass it is necessary to get under it. Hoeing will not do it and what will ? Mr. Healy — I would like to say in regard to the depth that it runs: I have dug Bermuda grass four feet deep and could not see that I was getting near the bottom of it. I have dug holes six feet deep and still found the Bermuda grass roots, and they were still going down. . You cannot tell how deep they grow. The deeper they do go the better fertilizer they are. Prof. Rolfs — Do you contemplate going to China? If so you can find the roots. Mr. Carey — In reference to Bermuda grass: If those who have lawns of this grass will use a highly ammoniated fer¬ tilizer and have water and keep it nicely mown, they will have no difficulty. Mr. Mellish — In attempting to exterminate this grass has anyone ever tried a heavy application of salt? Mr. Gattskill — I have tried heavy application of salt and of potash without avail. I was a little afraid to put the salt on for fear I should kill everything else I had. J. T. Stubbs — I have applied salt and boiling water and hot ashes and destroyed the Bermuda grass on the surface, but it came up again. I do not think there could be salt enough to destroy the Bermuda grass without destroying the land. Heavy applications of salt will destroy the land. Mr. Stoddard — No one has spoken of Louisiana grass. Prof. Rolfs— Louisiana grass requires moist soil, where it grows thick it becomes a carpet grass, but on rich land it will make stems. Thomas E. Richards— I have Bermuda grass on my place and I have no difficulty in keeping it in check, because I have some St. Augustine grass growing alongside of it ; it will not run through this St. Augustine grass. Mr. Stoddard — I have some St. Augustine grass, but have trouble in keeping it growing. I do not know but it would answer the purpose Mr. Richards mentions. 94 SEVENTH ANNUAL MEETING OF THE. Injurious Insects. Paper read by Prof. P. H. Rolfs, of the Agricultural Experiment Station, Lake City, Columbia county, Chairman of Standing Committee on Entomology. After receiving the notice from your honorable ex-secretary, Mr. Hart, much thought was put on just what the nature of the report on entomology should be. After the field had been carefully considered it became clear that I would not be serv¬ ing the Florida State Horticultural Society nor the state to the best of my ability, by bringing here correctly named spec¬ imens and fine stereopticon views to illustrate important in¬ sects under discussion, nor by presenting some new device or insecticide for slaying our insect enemies by the thousands^ Ladies and gentlemen — This way of treating the subject has been in vogue since the organization of the society; the speeches have been good; often considerable time had been spent in their preparation. These discussions have been con¬ fined to insect enemies that were in the state. Let me pre¬ sent to you three insects that we have not, and one that has barely put his foot on Florida soil. THE OLIVE POLLINIA. The olive industry is just beginning to attract some atten¬ tion in this state. Much has been written and said of it in California. New and promising varieties have been intro¬ duced from Europe. Recently it has been discovered that with this importation from Italy there has been brought in also the olive pollinia, pollinia costae targ. This scale insect so closely resembles the bark that it will not be detected or¬ dinarily. It is particularly dangerous in that the usual washes or insecticides do not destroy it. In passing I may mention that there are several other insects in Europeon the olive that have not yet found their way to America. The polliniajis a serious pest even m Europe, where labor is cheap and its^ene- mies present to checkmate it. THE GYPSY MOTH. ( Ocnena Dispar .) This most destructive pest was brought to this country by Mr. L. Trouvelot, now of Paris. Mr. Trouvelot was at the FLORIDA STATE HORTICULTURAL SOCIETY. 95 time experimenting at Medford, Mass., with native worms in raising silk. He brought a cluster of gypsy moth eggs from France, and accidentally lost them. The larvae did not at¬ tract especial attention, so no effort was made to stamp them out in the beginning. Whenever noticed they were thought to be simply canker worms, tent caterpillars or some other native and less destructive moth. It has now spread through 29 cities and towns of Eastern Massachusetts. The territory is bounded by a line beginning a few miles south of Boston, running west three counties, then two counties north, and then in a northeasterly direction to Manchester. It is more or less thickly disseminated throughout this area. In places where it is abundant the fields are simply devastated. There is- scarcly a plant that is sacred to its abnoimal appetite. In 1890 the legislature approprioted $50,000 toward its destruction. In 1891 $50,000 more was appropriated, and in 1892 the sum had to be raised to $75,000. First the work was handed over to excellent men who had no entomological training; later it it was put in the hands of scientific entomologists, but the gypsy moth, she is still there. Much good has been done; the pest has been kept from spreading by strict laws and patrolmen constantly watching the border. Ladies and gentlemen — How very easy would it be for some good friend of yours living in the infested dis¬ trict to send >ou a few grape cuttings that might have been secreted under their loose bark or in the sphagnum about them, a half-dozen of these eggs that are about the size of mustard seed ? Or perchance be sent in with a few choice roses. You see any one might be perfectly innocent and yet cause the loss of thousands of dollars worth of property. THE FLUTED SCALE. Those who were present at the Pensacola meeting, remem¬ ber the stereopticon slide illustrating the life history of the fluted scale ( leery puischasi). This will be found on pages 149, 150 and 15 1, Proceedings Sixth Annual Meeting of the Florida State Horticultural Society. Let us look at the rapidity with which this insect spreads. In 1885 Mr. Cook, at Sacramento, noticed that this insect covered a spice of about three by four inches on an acacia tree. In less than two years it had spread over an area of 12,800 square feet, or more than a quarter of an acre; at the same rate in two more years it would have spread overmuch more than an entire township. Curious as it m>iy seem, this insect was imported on an aca¬ cia, a plant belonging to an entirely different family than the orange. This pest is such an omniverous feeder that when once established it simply permeates all the vegetation, and 7 96 ftSVENTH ANNUAL MEETING OF THE the orange suffers most severely. The date of importation is 1871. It was 1882 before any strong efforts were made to eradicate it, and it was 1890 before it was finally gotten under control. The local horticultural -societies worked hard; the county horticultural societies aided all they could; the State Horticultural Society went to the legislature; the legislature appropriated money and passed laws; congress made special appropriations, and for a while it looked like the world against the fluted scale. It is now under control, but it took more money tuan any legislative body ever gave to the orange indus¬ try of Florida. It is not our good j udgment that ha* kept it out of Florida, but rather the strict quarantine of California. If it were to be imported to several places in Florida, I predict that it would defy all lertdizers, insecticides, and all gases; it would take up its abode in our hammocks and bay heads on the bay trees and other evergreens, making them a constant source of infection. They would be a scourge, the like of which has never visited our balmy state. SAN JOSE SCALE. ( A&pidiotus pertiiciosus com.) This very pernicious scale was imported from Chili, and, therefore, an imported enemy. It has been called the San Jose scale, because it was destructive in the ban Jose country, and t he first work was done against it in that va ley. In spite of all efforts, time consumed and money spent with a view of destroying it, there is still a respectable amount of the infection left there; sufficient within a few years to infect Maryland, Virginia, New Mexico and Florida. We are threatened. In California it has defied thewcounty horticultural societies, the state horticultural societies, the legislature and the United States Division of Entomology to dislodge it. Like the fabled hydra of old, it springs up out of its own ashes. While you are cutting it to pieces in California the chips fall in New Mexico, in Maryland, in Virginia and Florida. Ladies and gentlemen — If this pest is allowed to be disseminated through¬ out Northern Florida, who will in 1904 represent the Florida State Horticultural Society from that section ? Mr. President, you will pardon me if I digress from the en¬ tomological on so important a question. SERAH. At the Pensacola meeting Prof. Swingle called the atten¬ tion of the society to the fact that there existed in Java a bacterial disease of sugar cane. That there has been a stand¬ ing offer tor four years of $5,000 to anyone devising a prac¬ tical plan for overcoming this disease. The Professor also FLORIDA STATE HORTICULTURAL SOCIETY. 9T called attention to the fact that the importation of a single inch of such a diseased cane could, under the proper circum¬ stances, hopelessly ruin the sugar industry of Florida. PEACH ROSETTE. In the same speech attention was called to the existence of peach rosette in Georgia, just across our border line. I will not go into the description of this disease; suffice it to say that it is only a question of four or five months’ time from the attack until the trees are only good for fire wood. But the worst of the whole matter is that a portion, ever so small when carried from a diseased to a healthy tree, can produce the disease in the healthy one. Thus the unsuspecting fruit grower may, on the blade of his pruning hook or grafting knife, carry the disease to any or all the trees in his orchard, from one diseased tree. This disease is not in Florida as far as I am able to learn. THE CALINORNIA VINE DISEASE. In Orange county, California, seven years ago there was 10,000 acres of vines. The land sold for $300 to $500 per acre; last year the same land would not bring more than $T5 to $200 per acre. The loss as a result of this vine disease is •estimated at not less than $3,000,000. this the lowest estimate. This single disease has rendered worthless for vine culture, 20,000 acres or more. The cause, introduction and cure are all unknown. There is no doubt that our soil, climate and temperature will permit this disease to be propagated. POURRIDIE. (Dematophora necatrix.) Let me speak of another vine disease that we may expect almost any time; this is known in France as pourridie. It is caused by a fungus, dematophora necatrix. This has lately been introduced into Australia in a bundle of grape cuttings. It is not present in Florida, but the climatic conditions are perfect for its propagation. MANGO BLIGHT. Mr. President — I have one more case to offer. There has been lately, i. e., within the last three or four years, intro¬ duced a blight of the mango blossoms. As far as my obser¬ vations goes, it exists only in a limited area, and could be easily subjugated or entirely destroyed. We are in imminent danger of all the diseases discussed in this paper. But these are not all that threaten our prosperity 98 SEVENTH ANNUAL MEETING OF THE T,wo of them are already within our borders; the others may be to-morrow. Your neighbor may to-day import the San Jose scale, and you may know that it is the dreaded insect,, but what are you going to do about it ? You may kill such* as cross to your premises, but you have no right to enter his field to destroy the source of infection. This brings to mind! the case in Sacramento. In 1885 the city trustees appropri¬ ated $200 to exterminate the fluted scale within the city lirm its; this was done excepting within certain premises where* trespassing was forbidden. This open source of contagion had to be endured until the legislature made it lawful to enter these premises. Let us take a brief review of these troubles. The olive pol- linia is a native of semi-tropical Europe; the gypsy moth, of France; the fluted scale, of Australia; the San Jose scale, of Chili; the serah, bacterial disease of sugar cane, of Java; pour- ridie, vine disease of France, is now in Australia; the Cali¬ fornia vine disease, of California; the peach and plum rosette,, present in the southern part of Georgia. The olive pollinia was brought to California on the olive,, by whom, not known. The fluted scale brought to California by private enterprise. The gypsy moth brought to Massa¬ chusetts by a foreigner. The San Jose scale in same way as fluted scale. Pourridie taken to Australia in a bunch of grape cuttings. Mango blight, not known. Serah, of sugar cane, peach rosette and California vine disease, still in the place of original discovery, and let’s keep them there. In looking over the diseases you will see that the great ma¬ jority have been introduced by carelessness of private enter¬ prise. It is a rare thing that a nurseryman or dealer allows- anything of this kind to be disseminated. Can anything be done to remedy this? Yes! What? First, prevent the introduction; seeond, stamp out any spo¬ radic case. Massachusetts is preventing the gypsy moth from spreading and is thinning out its numbers in the infested re¬ gions, although it infests thousands of acres. Iowa has cleared her fields of Canada thistle without costing the state anything. California has, on account of her carelessness, a herculean* task to peiform; if she perseveres success will crown her ban¬ ner. Florida is peculiarly free from disease. i know of no other one state so free from disease. If you will look at ihe map you will see that there is only one source from which natural infection can take place; that is from the north. The severest diseases of temperate United States do notflour- it-h in semi-tropical Florida, so there is only a limited number to be contracted from that source. The Australian, Chinese, Japanese and Western South American plants have been first- FLORIDA STATE HORTICULTURAL SOCIETY. 99 brought to California, and have there gone through a season of cleansing, and then sent to Florida. Now it is very dear from what other states have done, that ithe artificial source of infection is under control if we only think so. Mr. President, as the best manner in which this could be reached, let it be suggested that a committee be appointed to dook into the laws of the different states and countries if pos¬ sible, and bring out their defects and excellencies, and report them with recommendations to this society at the next annual meeting. Discussion on Injurious Insects. v ' i G. P. Healy — I would like to ask Prof. Rolfs if there is danger of importation of Gypsy moths on apples and pota¬ toes? Prof. Rolfs — There is not a great deal of danger of im¬ portation on the fruit. They secrete their eggs on bark and trees. There is more danger of importing it with packed fruit. They will lay their eggs in straw. In potatoes there is very little danger at all, but we should be very careful of this moth because it is a destructive enemy. . Mr. Healy — I understand, then, there would be danger in buying seed from Gypsy moth districts. Prof. Rolfs — Yes, sir; in the packing there would be dan¬ ger. G. W. Mellish, Vice-President (presiding) — I would like to hear from some of the other members. Prof. Rolfs — I would like to say that our chairman is fa- imiliar with a very serious pest in his district, that is, the ,San Jose scale, and I am sure the Horticultural Society FLORIDA STATE HORTICULTURAL SOCIETY. 101 tell what is the matter with the tree. It is very readily over- looked. It has no particular season for breeding. You will find young and half-grown ones all the year round as long as the weather is warm enough. They may be dormant for a few weeks in cold weather. We should try to stamp it out, for it is very destructive and it will spread. Mr. Healy — Does it attack the leaves ? Prof. Rolfs — I have never seen it on the leaves. It usually attacks the young branches. My work with it has been just after the leaves have come on the tree. I would not say that it does not attack the leaves, but the especial damage is done to the limbs of the peach, the pear and the various forms of plum it attacks. It has not been known to hurt a citrus tree. It does not like the citrus. Mr. Healy — Have you ever seen it on the pecan or Japan¬ ese chestnut? Prof. Rolfs — I know of no case that has been reported on those trees. I will say that on these trees there is a scale belonging to the same genus, but it is a larger insect. Mr. Healy — I heard a gentleman say to-day that he had Japanese chestnuts and that they made a perfect shell, but in the shell of the nut there was nothing but a little mould. That was all he could get. Now I got perfect fruit from my trees. Is there any insect that will cause that ? Prof. Rolfs — What are the conditions? Is it a tree stand* ing off by itself? Mr. Healy — Mr. Brown will tell us about this. A. H. Brown — I have a row of these trees. I think there are ten or a dozen in a row. They are set in the center of a young grove, and receive the same cultivation that the or¬ anges do. Prof. Rolfs — I asked this question because, as is well known to horticulturists, the pistilate and stamenate flower* of the chestnut are borne on separate trees, and if you happen to get a grove of trees that produce only pistilate flowers, there will be burrs without fruit. I have seen this happen with the wild chestnut. Mr. Brown — Where is the stock secured from which the Japanese chestnuts are grown ? Mr. Rolfs — I am not familiar with this. Mr. Taber may be able to tell us. G. L. Taber — The Japanese chestnut is generally sent out as a seedling. There have been a good many grafting trees sent out and they were good, but the seedlings generally pro¬ duce nothing. The nuts are generally about the same. As 102 SEVENTH ANNUAL MEETING OF THE to the stock upon which we have grafted the horse chestnut, the American horse chestnut will grow upon the chincopin, but I think the horse chestnut is most generally used as a stock when the chestnuts are grafted, but any chestnut can be used as a stock. As to whether Mr. Brown’s trees are grafted or seedlings, I do not know that that w ould make any differ¬ ence. If the trees were grafted it would depend on the kind of trees from which they were grafted. I have some seed¬ lings that have produced well. For the first year or two there were a good many nuts, like Mr. Brown mentions. There was no kernel in the nut. For the last few years we have had good fruit. Mr. Brown — Did they not form a perfect shell ? Mr. Taber — They did. J. T. Stubbs— I would like to make a motion for the ap¬ pointment of a committee on legislation. I would ask that a, -committee be appointed to look into the legislation against the importation of vegetable insects. This morning we have heard a good deal about trouble with diseases and insects, a,nd the evidence is that most of them have been imported into the United States. Some states have a quarantine law against the importation of these insects. It may be necessary that we have legislation on that subject to make us safer. I would ask that a committee on legislation be appointed. Mr. Healy — If I understand you, it is a committee to in¬ vestigate and report upon legislation for the purpose of re¬ stricting the importation of diseases and insects. Mr. Stubbs — Yes, sir. Mr. Mellish— Would it not be well to limit the duties of that committee ? Mr. Stubbs — Their duties would be limited, being confined to the investigation of legislation on the importation of dis¬ ease and insects. Prof. Rolfs — In the paper that I presented to the society I mentioned the fact that we have a number of states in this country that have passed such laws. Some of those laws are good and some are not good. The idea I had in mind in pre¬ senting this report was that we might appoint a committ e to ascertain what laws on this subject are in force elsewhere and what effect they had; to consider the advisability of the adop¬ tion of restrictive laws in this state; possibly to recommend something of this kind in this state; at least to bring the sub¬ ject belore the society in shape to be discussed intelligently. Motion carried. FLORIDA STATE HORTICULTURAL SOCIETY. 103 Fertilizing Orange Groves. IPrepared and read by Benj. N. Bruit, of Huntington, Putnam county, member Standing Committee on Fertilizers. My experience with fertilizers has been with their use in orange groves onty. I can give but little positive information and shall confine myself to a few suggestions, hoping to pro¬ voke discussion and elicit information from the members present. Io is generally accepted that the three principal elements required in a fertilizer are potash, phosphoric acid and nitrogen. What we want is to obtain these elements, either separately or mixed, at the lowest market price and in the best form. What is the best form of each of these elements, and what is the best combination? It is commonly believed that sulphate of potash is the best form in which to apply potash to orange trees. Has it been proved by exhaustive experiments ? We get phosphoric acid from various sources and in various forms. Which is the best ? The question of nitrogen is still more important. It is probable that the health of our trees and the quality of our fruit is affected by the quantity and form of nitrogen which we apply more than by either of the other elements. What is the best form ? From my own observation I venture the opinion that nitro¬ gen applied in crude waste animal materials is detrimental to the quality of the fruit if not to the health of the trees. If we resort to pure chemicals what shall we use ? It seems to be established beyond question that we can grow a large part of the required nitrogen, in our younger groves at least. The beggar-weed and cow-pea undoubtedly gather free nitrogen from the air and store it in both their tops and roots While I believe most fertilizer manufacturers are honest, under present conditions we are at their mercy. Our fertilizer law does not give us adequate protection. There is a solution of the problem which can be brought 104 SEVENTH ANNUAL MEETING OP THE . . t • about by our Agricultural Experiment Station or by some public-spirited citizen of means. That is, by making comparative tests in the grove for a number of years in succession of different formulas. When we have decided upon the best formula and the best sources from which to obtain the needed constituents we can go to the manufacturers and ask them to compete for our patronage. We shall need no elaborate law to protect us. Will not the method of fertilizing and cultivating our groves go as far, ultimately, in deciding the question of profit in orange growing as the method of marketing ? Fertilizers and Fertilizing Materials. Prepared and read by E. O Painter, of DeLand, Volusia county, at the special request of the Society. The question of proper fertilization is one of great impor¬ tance to the orange grower and truck raiser of Florida, for in no state of the Union is there more need of it. There is but a very small area within our borders but that requires artificial fertilizing of some kind or other, it therefore behooves the farmer and fruit grower to study well this question of fertili¬ zation so that he can apply his manures in a manner that will give him an abundant crop and at the same time have none, if any, to go to waste. It has not been many years since com¬ mercial fertilizers were unknown to the majority of the tillers, of the soil. They had no need to study agricultural chemistry for they had but to prepare the land, plant the seed and an abundant crop could be harvested without the application of artificial fertilizers in any way. This practice has, as you all know,, impoverished the most fertile fields and where once the vegetable life would spring up and reach out its branches and hold out its leaves to be kissed by the sun and be washed by the dews and rain from heaven, now refuse to grow unless properly fed by the hand of man. A continu¬ ous draught, so to speak, has been made on the bank of plant food and unless liberal deposits are returned it will not be long before bankruptcy and starvation will not only FLORIDA STAIR HORTICULTURAL SOCIRTY. 105 stare the plants in the face ,but the “tiller” will have to seek other vocations or succumb to the inevitable. “Necessity is the mother of invention. ” So when the soils began to fail to give lorth abundant crops, man began to study the laws of nature and he soon discovered wherein the trouble lay and began at once to supply the needed plant foods. Thus commercial fertilizers were invented and placed on the market. They were received with a good deal of incredulity by the husbandman who in his ignorance of chemistry could not understand how an inorganic substance could be converted into living matter. Necessity, however, compelled him to try it and to-day there are thousands and thousands of tons of chemicals annually used to increase the productiveness of the soil, and the increase is going to be just in that proportion to which the farmers and fruit growers are educated to their proper use. I do not mean that they should study to be chemists but they should understand the sources of .various plant foods and their effects upon different plant life. I have tried to study it from this standpoint as it is the practical work that finally tells. The chemist can tell us that an orange tree contains certain per cents, of water, sugar, potash* phosphoric acid, etc., and we may have all of these at our hand, but without the aid of dame nature we could not pro¬ duce a single fruit, but we can, with the aid of the chemist and the help of dame nature, grow trees that will give an abundant yield by supplying the necessary plant food which can be worked over by the trees and given back in the shape of “golden apples.” I hope you will not think that I atn a chemist, for what I know about chemistry is so small alongside of what I do not know, that a “drop in the bucket” would be no comparison. As stated aboye, I have tried to study this question from a practical standpoint, and if any of the information given proves of value to even one person I shall feel repaid for my trouble. I do hope, however, that it may be the means of food lor thought which will lead the growers to better understand the the use of agricultural chemicals. One of the most plentiful elements of plant food is nitrogen, yet it is the most costly, owing to man’s inability to trap it and get it into shape to handle without great expense. It com¬ poses about four-fifths of the air we breathe and enters into the formation of all animal and plant life. Without ammonia it would be impossible to grow anything. Your soil might contain an abundance of potash in the most available form, the phosphoric acid might be there served up in the most ap¬ petizing form for plants, yet without ammonia there to start 106 SEVENTH ANNUAL MEETING OF THE and to stimulate, the plants would never unfold a leaf. SULPHATE OF AMMONIA is one of the best forms of ammonia, and one which contains the greatest per cent, of nitrogen of any substance we use as a fertilizer. It is a by-product from the manufacture of gas and coke, also from burning bones. The ammonia is liberated from the coal or bones by combustion, but before it reaches the outside atmosphere it is caught with the aid of sulphuric acid and held in the form of a salt. Thus an acid and an al¬ kali, either of which would take the skin from your hands, are rendered a neutral substance and can be handled and stored with impunity. When applied to the soil in a limited quantity its effect can be quickly seen, as it is ready to be taken up by the plant as soon as it comes in contact with the moist earth or is wet by rain or dews. Some chemists contend thst it changes to nitric acid before the plants use it, while others claim that it is taken up as it is. I do not claim to understand how na¬ ture effects these changes, but I do know that there is nothing that will kill vegetable life more quickly than an overdose of sulphate ammonia, or one that will put more life and vigor into a plant in a quicker time if properly applied than this same “salt,” yielding about 25 per cent, of ammonia. Nitrate of soda is the next in order. This is also a salt and is obtained from the west coast of South America. It is in a section where rain is almost unknown, so that the accumula¬ tions have remained unchanged. It is found in the form of rock and is generally near the surface. The overburden or fop soil is removed and the nitre rocks dug out and loaded on to cars which are taken to a nitre works where the rock is crushed and put in large vats containing boiling water. The nitrate of soda soon dissolves, and in this way is separated from impurities. From the boiling pan the liquor is drawn off into evaporating vats. In that arid climate the water soon evaporates and leaves the nitrate of soda in crystals in the bottom and on the sides of the vat. It is then put in heavy sacks and shipped to all parts of the world. The action of nitrate of soda on plant life is very stimulating and quick, and for this reason is very valuable to gardeners whose crops are behind on account of late planting, cold or other causes. It is said to be very slippery, and if more is put on the soil than the plants require the rains will dissolve and carry it away. It does not adhere nor unite with the soil but remains dissolved un¬ til the moisture is evaporated from it. Sulphate of ammonia and nitrate of soda are the best forms of ammonia in a dry or partially dry season, owing to the fact that they require very little moisture to dissolve themselves. In fact, in Florida FLORIDA STATE HORTICULTURAL- SOCIETY. 107' they will condense enough moisture from the air to dissolve* themselves. I know of a grower of oranges in Florida who ordered a sack of nitrate of soda, and when it reached his de¬ pot he refused to take it, claiming that it had been allowed to get wet and consequently ruined. He at once wrote the ship¬ per that the wet sack of nitrate of soda was at the depot sub¬ ject to his order. That if he could not ship him dry nitrate of soda he did not want him to ship any at all. This grower simply showed his ignorance of the nature of nitrate of soda. The high price of nitrate of soda has led some unscrupulous people to adulterating it, thus enabling them to double their profits. Common coarse salt is the agent used most fre¬ quently for this purpose, also kainit and sometimes sand. The salt and kainit can be readily detected by taking a small par¬ ticle in the mouth. If it dissolves readily, leaving a cooling sensation, it is apt to be all rignt, but if it gives a salty flavor it would be well to have it analyzed before buying. Nitrate of potash is sometimes used as a fertilizer, but its expensivene>s keeps it from coming into general use. Guano was one of the first forms of commercial fertilizers offered to the public?. Its effect on the soil was wonderful. It is accounted for by the high per cent, of ammonia which it contained, together with phosphoric acid, the soil then con¬ taining plenty of potash. Repeated applications of guanor however, did not give the same results, and it was soon looked upon as a “stimulant’' only, when in reality the cause was that it was a “one-sided” fertilizer. It is used to some extent yet as a source of ammonia in manipulated fertilizers, but the use of it is decreasing, owing to the guano beds becoming exhausted. Besides ammonia it contains phosphoric acid and a small pet cent, of potash. DRIED BLOOD is also extensively used as a source- of ammonia, and is obtained from the great slaughter houses where it is pressed, dried and ground and shipped to various parts of the country. It is one of the best sources of ammonia among the organic substances. TANKAGE is the refuse of slaughter houses that has been cooked and put under pressure to extract the particles of fat that it might contain, and is then dried and ground. In Florida it is known as blood and bone, and in other sections of the country it is sold as animal guano, but it is all tankage. There are several grades of tankage which are sold on the percentage of ammo¬ nia and phosphoric acid or bone phosphate lhatthey contain. 108 SEVENTH ANNUAL MEETING OW T0B It is generally the low grade that is sold to the growers, as the concentrated tankage is almost always bought by manu¬ facturers and used in making their special brands. This, like guano, is a one-sided fertilizer, and its continued use without the application of potash would lead to unprofitable crops, if not disastrous results. It is so with all one-sided fertilizers. AZOTINE AND AMMONITE are animal waste from which grease has been extracted by being exposed to the vapor of naptha. These, like tankage, are bought up by manufacturers. COTTON SEED MEAL, Linseed meal and castor pomace are all the result of the manufacture of the different oils and are usually termed oil cake before it is ground. Every one in this country is familiar with the two kinds of cotton seed meal. One from the short staple and the other from the long staple cotton. That from the former being known as “bright” and the other “dark” meal. The bright is a little richer in ammonia than the dark, owing to the fact ihat it is freer from the hull. The hull ol the long staple cotton is so soft that it is impos¬ sible to grind and bolt it all from the meal, thus giving it the dark appearance. The former is used a good deal for feed and consequently there is a larger demand for it, usually selling about $4 per ton more than the dark, while in re¬ ality there is only about $1.25 difference in their manurial value. Castor pomace should be used with care and should be kept away from stock. Linseed meal is used exten¬ sively as a feed for horses and consequently its selling price is usually considerable above its manurial value. HOOF MEAL AND HORN SHAVINGS are frequently used in manipulated, fertilizers and they con¬ tain a large percentage of ammonia which the chemist can find, but which the plants have a hard time to unlock. For this reason it is rated as one of the poorest sources of ammonia for plant food. In fact I doubt if it would pay the growers of Florida to pay freight on it and apply it to their soils. This will account to some why it is that a fertilizer which has a guaranteed analysis of ammonia that seems high and that the chemist says is there gives such poor results whpn applied. FISH SCRAP is probably used more largely by eastern fertilizer manufacture FLORIDA STATE HORTICULTURAL SOCIETY. 109 era as & source of ammonia than any other organic matter. All along the coast fisheries exist which annually turn out thousands of tons of “fish pomace” or “chum.” The fish are caught, steamed and the oil extracted and the waste or pom¬ ace is dried and sold. Florida’s coast is teaming with fish that could be utilized to help furnish fertilizer for the acres of vegetables within her borders. They could be composted with muck. The chief objection to handling them, however, is the smell and the army of buzaards that would have to be looked after. There are other sources of ammonia than those we have mentioned, but they do not generally enter into com¬ mercial fertilizers and are used but very little. All those named except the sulphate of ammonia and nitrate of soda are organic manures and have to undergo fermentation and decomposition before the plant food they contain is liberated, hence it takes considerable longer for their effects to show and in a dry season there is no show at all owing to the soil being thoroughly dried deeper than they have been applied. In the above we have not mentioned any of the domestic or stable manures as we take it for granted that everyone knows their value. Next in order in expensiveness to the agriculturist comes POTASH. Until recent years the only known source of potash was from ashes, which were limited, and as a great many of these were used in the manufacture of soap, the supply was inad- aquate for the demand. It was not until the discovery of the potash mines in Germany that a supply of potash could be had in sufficient quantities to meet the increasing demand. As to the origin and description of this plant food we cannot do better than to copy a few paragraphs from one of the Ger¬ man Kali Woiks’ pamphlet: “The Stassfurt salt and potash deposits had their origin, thousands of years ago, in a sea or ocean, the waters of which gradually receded, leaving near the coast, lakes which still retain communication with the great ocean by means of small channels. In that part of Europe the climate was then trop¬ ical, and the waters of these lakes rapidly evaporated, but were constantly replenished through these small channels connecting them with the main body. Decade after decade of this continued, until by evaporation and crystallization the various salts present in the sea water were deposited in solid form. The less soluble material, such as sulphate of lime or “anhydrit,” solidified first and formed the lower stratum. Then came common rock-salt with a slowly thickening layer which ultimately reached 3,000 feet, and is estimated to have 110 SEVENTH ANNUAL MEETING OF THE been 13,000 years in formation. This rock-salt deposit is in*- terspevsed with lamellar deposits of “anhydrit,” which grad-' ually diminished toward the top and are finally replaced by mineral “polyhalit” which was composed of sulphate of lime,, sulphate of potash, and sulphate of magnesia. The situation in which this polyhalit predominates is denominated the “polyhalit region’’ and after it comes the “kiese rit region” in which, between the rock-salt strata, kieserit (sulphate of' magnesia), is imbedded. Above the kieserit lies the “potash region,” consisting mainly of deposits of carnallit, a mineral compound of muriate of potash and chloride of magnesia. The carnallit deposit is from 50 to 130 feet thick and yields the most important of the crude potash salts and that from.; which are manufactured most of the concentrated articles, in¬ cluding muriate of potash. “Overlying this potash region is a layer of impervious clay which acts as a water-tight roof to protect and preserve the very soluble potash and magnesia salts, which — had it not been for the very protection of this overlying stratum — would have been long ages ago washed away and lost by the action of the water percolating from above. After this clay roof is a stratum, of varying thickness of anhydrit, (sulphate of lime), and still above this a second salt deposit, probably formed under more recent climatic and atmospheric influences or possibly by chemical changes in dissolving and subsequent precipitation. This salt deposit contains 98 per cent, (often more) of pure salt — a degree of purity rarely elsewhere found. Finally above this are strata of gypsum, tenacious clay, sand and limestone, which crop out at the surface. “The perpendicular distance from the lowest to the upper surface of the Stassfurt salt deposits is about 5,000 feet (a lit¬ tle less than a mile), while the horizontal extent of the bed is* from the Harz Mountains to the Elbe in one direction, and from the city of Madgeburg to the town of Bernburg in another. “It must not be inferred from what has been said that the various strata succeed one another in regular order. To be sure, they occur according to certain well-marke P 3 B O 3 *— < • P ML to © Or © QO Cl tn m Ot O O to M to Oi CO to W o. CD MtOtOtOCO-3©©© M M N |C( Mm n o O O O 02“ M O GD • • CO Chm K L3 002 o * co M *— 1 M JO M CO © CO © tO fP p p C C Or m oo ►P C7c ©l ►P tP 00 ©l 3 03 © P A ft o Ph 500 pounds horn shavings . 500 “ kainit . 1.85 3 .50 500 “ blood and bone . 500 “ acid phosphate . 1.50 3.25 3. 2,000 3.35 3 6.75 It is not far behind the other in analysis, but what a differ¬ ence there would be in results on a grove or garden. Cheap and cheat should go together, for if the grower is get* ting cheap goods, either the seller or buyer is getting cheated, and which do you think it is likely to be ? Fertilizing mate¬ rials have a certain value, governed by supply and demand, and I would advise a grower to go slow in buying cheap goods; always buy on the unit of plant food, taking into ac¬ count its source, and you will be more apt to get full value. No one ever said anything truer than our friend, Rev. Mr. Phelps, when he said that the time was coming when the grow¬ ers would feed their fruit trees to make flavor and quality,, and this can only be done by judiciously using high grade goods. Discussion on Fertilizers. James Mott — A good many of the fertilizers used in this: state are frauds. I have seen orange groves that looked to me as though they would have been better off without it. I have a friend in Polk county ; not long since I was there and 118 SEVENTH ANNUAL MEETING OF THE tie told me that he put about thirty-five tons on seventy-five acres, and not getting the results from the fertilizer that he expected, he sent a sample to the state chemist and got his analysis. I copied the analysis the state chemist sent him; I also copied the analysis that they reported to be on the bag. From that same manufactory there was a sample sent to another chemist, as also samples of potash ; I have the analy¬ sis of them all. Here is one that was attached to the bag : Moisture, 79 per cent.; phosphoric acid, 9 to 14 per cent.; available phosphoric acid, 7 to 9 per cent.; ammonia, 5 to 8 per cent.; potash, 7 to 10 per cent. The state chemist’s analy¬ sis showed that the moisture was 140; insoluble phosphoric acid, 2.56; potash (K20) 4 to 8. The potash was sold at $23.37 per ton at Savannah; the chemist told me he did not weigh the salt in it, but he estimated it was 13 per cent. The card on the nitrate of soda indicated 48 per cent.; it ana¬ lyzed 43 per cent. H. W. O. Margary — It seems to me that this question of fertilizers is of interest to all. There is one thing we -should take into consideration; that is, the question of soil. We have many different soils in Florida. We try to grow oranges on a soil in which some element is lacking; then we blame the fertilizer if the fruit is not satisfactory. Is it right for us to attribute the growth, or rather want of growth, to the fertilizers? I think the fault lies in a lack of knowledge of agricultural chemistry on the part of the grower. Why not appoint a committee of agricultural chemistry to study up the subject and give to members the benefit of their investigations, setting forth the needs of different soils at different times? We take a grove and put one kind of fertilizer on it one year and it does very well that year and we get a large crop; perhaps the same fertilizer is put on again and there is then no growth and >no fruit. Why is this? I am piling on fertilizer and there are no good results. We should examine the soil as well as the fertilizer. A year ago I took a few navel trees and gave them each twenty pounds of lime. The fruit is holding well now, but I do not know what the result will be. This was only an experiment. I say again that the question of soil should enter largely into the consideration of fertilizers. A. T. Cuzner — I was very much interested in the paper read by Mr. Painter. He doubtless knew what he was talking about, but I have not the least doubt that the majority of .persons present did not understand, when he got his charts -out, what he tried so hard to explain, viz : The nature and ^essentials of a perfect fertilizer. .The subject of fertilizers is a very obscure one to the FLORIDA STATE HORTICULTURAL SOCIETY. 119 average farmer, for the reason that the average farmer is a novice in agricultural chemistry. Now while it is not absolutely necessary that the farmer or fruit grower should have much knowledge ol chemistry in order to raise good crops, still a knowledge of the chemistry of agriculture is of great advantage to him. He is continually hearing or reading of different fertilizing materials as containing so much phosphate, so much potash, so much ammonia, lime, etc., and doubtless queries to himself: What is potash, ammonia, etc., and what purpose do they fill in plant life? The life principle of both animal and vegetable existence is dependent upon phosphate. When orange fruit is analized we find that it contains no phosphate except in the seed. It is required there because the seed is the reproductive result of the plant growth. In orange culture, for instance, such varie¬ ties as the Satsuma, which does not produce many seeds, ex¬ perience will show, require less phosphate than other members of the citrus family. Again as to potash, what proportional amount is required by the soil for perfect p!aut growth, and what function will it fill in the economy of plant life? In regard to the amount of potash required, it varies with the condition of the soil. Some soils have a large percentage of potash in them. To say that all soils require a certain per¬ centage of potash is very incorrect. Analysis of fruit and tree show that they contain much less potash than is indicated by the amount required in the soil. Potash, by its presence and the chemical changes it produces in the soil and the plant, is indispensable to perfect plant life. Potash is for the pur¬ pose, therefore, of enabling the fruit to mature itself — its body structure — so to speak; its trunk, leaves, etc. All these re¬ ceive nourishment by means of the potash. It has a chemical action whereby the different materials are changed from one condition to another to suit the fruit. Potash is a vehicle. It is a means to an end, and has very little manural value as a fertilizer, as we understand manure, but it does just what gastric juice does in animal life. When man takes food into his stomach, the gastric juice comes in contact with it and enables the substance taken into the body to be digested and assimilated, and separates the different parts, each particular part to its particular end. Potash has largely the same effect in the vegetable economy as the gastric juice has in the ani¬ mal economy, only more varied, and a soil that is not well supplied with potash will not produce good vegetable growth. .In all fruit, with but few exceptions, phosphate is for the pur¬ pose of reproducing the individual plant. No fruit can have seed with phosphate. Phosphate has also a stimula¬ ting effect on plant life. 120 SEVENTH ANNUAL MEETING OP THE In regard to lime: There is a great many soils round where I live and the orange grows there most magnificently. In our shell hammocks you dig through the ground and it is like digging in some of the mountainous valleys of New York; there there are more stone than soil, with us more shells than soil ; yet we get good oranges from these shell lands, and I think it is largely due to the lime. There is a good deal of phosphate in oyster shells as well as lime. We should tails into cceioi deration the different uses of these different materials. Phosphate is for the purpose of enabling the vegetable to reproduce itself. Ammonia is nothing but nitrogen. Ammonia is the form of nitrogen that is most valuable in plant life. The air is full of nitrogen and we can get largely of ammonia from the atmosphere, but plant life needs assistance to get this nitrogen. If every grower would devote a little more time and study to the elementary princi¬ ples of agricultural chemistry, we would not be so much at the mercy of the fertilizer dealers, or at such a loss when and how to fertilize. G. P. Healy — Mr. Lyman Phelps has told us again and again just what this gentleman is telling us. The orange grower is supposed to pay double for everything he gets, and that is all there is to it; he wants fertilizer and he pays for it, A fertilizer man with a box of “two-fors” in his pocket can take in the Florida orange grower, and the man that is not an orange grower can sell him fertilizer and make him think he gets the best thing in the world. He does it every day, does it all the time. I can convince any man that no fertilizer factory in the United States can mix a ton of fertilizer on the floor with a shovel better than I can. A negro will mix a ton an hour and work ten hours a day and it is just as good fer¬ tilizer as furnished by the fertilizer companies. This is no question of speculation. The agricultural stations in the United States and in foreign countries are telling the producer that he can manufacture his own fetilizer at from $20 to $25 a ton and obtain an article that will analyze as high as any fertilizer that he can buy. After buying the material you can mix it for 10 cents a ton. It seems to me that the vital question of fertilization to-day is fertilization by indication. When the orange grower gets so that he can go into his grove and say whether it needs potash, ammonia or phosphoric acid, when he finds out what it does need, he has saved one-third to two-thirds of his money, Mr. President, it seems to me that the question of fertilization by indication is one that should be carried a great way and should be better understood. When it gets to the point. FLORIDA STATE HORTICULTURAL SOCIETY. 12] where every man is his own tree doctor, or there are tree doc- tors who can tell a man what his grove needs, then we will get the science of fertilization down to where it ought to be. It is a great mistake to assume that all lands should be fer¬ tilized alike. We have lands that will by no means bear so- called complete fertilizers. Our insects and our diseases can almost all of them be traced to the use of fertilizers. This is the side of the question I would like to have brought out in this Society. We are all making mistakes, but when the time comes that man can go out into his grove and say whether it needs potash or not, and when he knows that it needs potash, will he go and buy ammonia to get the potash ? I believe some would, especially if the fertilizer agent with the box of “two-fors” came along. J. E. Fuller — I think when we get home we will know what not to do. But some of us younger members would like to know what to do. We would like to hear of the successes as well as of the failures. I know we have not been doing the right thing. We want to know what is right. We would like to know the results you have obtained in the fertilization of pine lands. We would like a chapter of practical ex¬ perience. We came here to learn how to fertilize properly. A. H. Carey — I want to correct one idea that seems to pre¬ vail; that is, that all fertilizer dealers are frauds. It is also a supposition that there is a great profit made in fertilizers. I manufacture fertilizers and liye in Orlando and I will guar¬ antee to furnish any man with any grade of fertilizer that he may name it he will pay for the material laid down in Orlando the exact cost and will give me $5 per ton for my trouble. If a man buys a low grade of fertilizer and pays a high grade price for it, then he is undoubtedly paying $10 or $12 too much ; but if a man buys a high grade fertilizer made from high grade material and pays high grade prices, then the dealer cannot get in $10 or $12 profit. A. G. Avery — Nearly everything so far that has been said has been on chemical fertilizers. Nothing has been said about cotton seed meal. I think cotton seed meal should rank among the best fertilizers we have and practical men I have talked with agree with me in this. I came here nine years ago and became interested in the cultivation of citrus fruit,, and from the best information 1 can get, cotton seed meal has given the best results. Mr. Phelps — The gentleman third last speaking told us about the seed being the reproductive factor of the orange. He should have gone further and told us what an orange is and the necessity of having a perfect bloom in order to have 122 SEVENTH ANNUAL MEETING OF THE perfect fruit, and what elements were to produce that bloom; he should have gone on and told us the effects of oxygen in the atmosphere and what it is that makes the seed produce it¬ self, and I deny that it is phosphoric acid. If we are going to have elementary instruction we can go and buy a book for 50 cents to cover all these points. John W. Harding — I would like to ask for information, of Mr. Phelps, who seems to be quite versed in the chem¬ istry of fertilizers. Mr. Phelps — I asked the gentleman third last speaking to answer certain questions in reference to the elementary fruit. I would like to hear from him. Mr. Cuzner — Mr. Phelps asks such a comprehensive ques¬ tion and one that requires such a comprehensive answer, that I beg to be excused. He wants me to make an answer as to what chemicals and what amount it requires to make an orange tree bloom, whether phosphoric acid, soda, potash or ammonia, and I am sorry to say I am not in a position to answer. I cannot tell him how much pot¬ ash to use to make a good bloom. There are a good many things that enter into such a question as Mr. Phelps asks me to answer and I am sorry to say I cannot answer. Mr. Harding — How my question is this: Whether there are not certain processes of nature which cannot be under¬ stood and cannot be analyzed by any knowledge. I have been in Jaffa and seen the Jaffa oranges and I suppose the Jaffa buds were brought over here and put in your orange trees and you have the Jaffa orange, but our Jaffa orange is different from the Jaffa orange. You have improved upon it. Will Mr. Phelp« tell me if he can indicate by analysis of the grape what soil produced the grape? Can your chem¬ istry explain those wonderful processes of nature by which one grape growing in the same vineyard will be entirelv dif¬ ferent from another growing within a few yards of it ? Mr. Phelps — I will answer that question by asking another. Can the gentleman tell me why two children, born of the same parents, living in the same house, eating at the same table, are so different in disposition, in taste, in character ? The best chemists are my trees. I believe to-day that there has been more progress in chemistry in the last five years of benefit to such bodies as this than was made in previous years. Mr. Avery — The chemistry of agriculture is very different In various localities, especially in California and in Florida. We know that the chemicals we are using are expected to FLORIDA STATE HORTICULTURAL SOCIETY. 12a produce certain results, but the results depend upon the soil^ the season and the rain they have. D. Greenleaf — A request was made a short time ago by a gensleman that the members of the Society give some per¬ sonal experiences and while these discussions in regard to chemistry are all very well, to the great majority of us they are a little obscure. About seven years ago I put in a very large irrigating plant; I got good results from that; at the same time I sent on and got a few tons of land plaster ; I found that it was very beneficial, that grass sprang up and while there is very little plant food in land plaster, I thought the result justified me in sending for a large amount. I was interested in the phosphate discovery. I sent on and got fifteen tons of the Florida phosphate just as it was taken from the ground ; the first that I put on had not been ground and in sixty days the effect was marvelous. The trees made a large, vigorous growth and parties who had been through the state said they had not seen anything like it. The results have been mainly success¬ ful in my experiments with this phosphate. For five years I have applied nothing else and to-day my grove is as vigorous and as fine as I could ask for, and I think we have right here in the state as good a plant for food as there is in the world and that as a rule it is the best thing that can be put on an orange tree. My fruit has brought the highest prices in the Northern markets. I merely give this as information. The front of my grove is clear hammock, but where I made the first application was light saud and about twenty feet above the level of the water. Part of it is in scrub. The phosphate I used is called soit phosphate. Others have used it with very marked effect. J. W. Russell — I think we are on the right move; that is, to give our personal experience. My process is to open up. furrows, put in stable manure and cover it up immediately. On part of my land I put commercial fertilisers. The stable manure has done the work. We have got to use something that will pay us better than manufactured fertilizers. Some gentleman has been running down stable manure. We have worn out the country by the use of manufactured fertilizers.. I say that stable manure and our own fertilizers that we can get in Florida are the best. John E. Stillman — I have been traveling over this state for three years selling fertilizers. I have found people who have- condemned every brand of fertilizer. Some maintained that, ground corn meal was the best fertilizer; some, that stable- manure was the best; some claimed that sawdust was the bests„ 124 SEVENTH ANNUAL MEETING OF THE and I think a good many of the growers have the impression that all fertilizers are bad. But we cannot ignore the valua¬ ble results obtained from chemical fertilizers, and the impor¬ tant part they have played in our recent horticultural develop¬ ment; to do so wonld be to take a step backward; if we were to do this we might as well stop holding horticultural meet¬ ings. Mr. Healy — I have known the gentleman last speaking for a number of years — ever since he was a little fellow He was a good sort of a boy, and always was so until he went into the fertilizer business. Before he went into that business I met him quite often, and we used to exchange cigars and whiskey. After that he only gave me one cigar and a drink once. I did not want any more. I do not know what kind of whiskey he carries now, as he does not sell me any more fertilizers. H. B. Stevens — I have been to quite a considerable expense in getting out muck and applying it direct from the lake, and no one who has been through my grove will admit that it is a good fertilizer. I applied muck two years ago but have not done so since. A. D. Moore — I believe this is turning into an experience meeting. I am interested a little in oranges; I also plant a good many vegetables. I use chemical fertilizers, and I have neighbors that use them. I have one neighbor who thinks he can afford to haul phosphate twelve miles from the mines. I tried to save stable manure myself; my stables are full of it now, and I thought perhaps I could find something to do with it. I have about come to the conclusion to throw it out in the field and let it rot. In connection with &he use of chemical fertilizers: A good many parties burn off their land. I break my land with a two-horse plow, as deep as the stock can pull it. I put chemical fertilizer on in the spring. I have made some money out of my crops. Mr. Margery — Each man’s land requires fertilizers accord¬ ing to its needs. Whenever we find an orange growing near a manure heap we find the tree scaly. S. S. Harvey — I think the most important question this so¬ ciety can investigate and discuss, is the question of fertilizers. I have an opinion on this subject formed from experience, that I wish to call attention to. You can take a piece of our Florida land, plant out a grove, feed it with the best commercial fer¬ tilizers, continue to do so until the trees come into bearing, and you may have the finest fruit; but continue this same treatment for a number of years; continue to give it the best of commercial fertilizers in any quantity you see fit, and your trees will fail and your fruit become worthless. There is an FLORIDA STATE HORTICULTURAL SOCIETY. 125 element of plant food that you cannot analyze, that is neces¬ sary to the tree and fruit. I do not object to the use of com¬ mercial fertilizers; I advise the use of them, but not exclu¬ sively. I have some of the very best fruit trees in the state, and I have used very little commercial fertilizer — maybe not as much as I should have used — but I am confident my trees are the better for the use of the fertilizer that came from the stables, and to my mind the man who talks about throwing away sta¬ ble manure, talks about throwing away his money. Per unit, there is no plant food so expensive as ammonia, and your staw ble manure produces ammonia in very large quantities, and the man who throws it away or burns it, as 1 said before, throws away money. I am a believer in muck. I believe that it furnishes a plant food that you cannot purchase in commercial fertilizer. After your grove has been burnt out by the continued use of com¬ mercial fertilizer, give it a coat of muck, and you will find that it will produce a decided improvement. It is an experiment you will be well paid for. The man who depends exclusively on commercial featilizers, who makes up his mind nothing else will do, will get left. The man who has plenty of stable manure and uses it freely will improve his land and his grove, and will always be in luck. Mr. Moore — I think the last gentleman on the floor is cor¬ rect. We must have a mixture. I want to say one little thing about soft phosphate: I have had ten years’ experience on Florida pine lands. I tried soft phosphate (and I have not any to sell) and it is as good or better than other materials from which we get phosphoric acid. I put it on orange trees exclusively. Mr. Greenleaf has spoken about the value of soft phosphate for shell hammock land; this is about as good land as we have in Florida, and the soft phosphate should have earned a good recommendation there if anywhere, but it gives very satisiactory results with me on pine land. I had a tree standing very near a stable, and a neighbor said to me “That tree will die.” I told him I did not see why, and he replied that the stable manure would kill it, and that he was sur¬ prised that I did not know it, being as smart as I was. I wish all my trees would die like that one. It is growing beautifully. I have applied stable manure and muck several years with success. L. Montgomery — I use a great deal of stable manure. I keep more stock than most people in Florida. I keep fifteen head of horses. I use stable manure, and think it better than anything else in the fertilizing line. My manner of applying 126 SEVENTH ANNUAL MEETING OF THE' stable manure is to put it on at any season of the year, and to- spread it broadcast between the rows of trees, say about six feet from the tree on each side, and cover the ground. About twice a year I put on this manure, and with it about half a ton of dissolved bone to the acre. I use this for the reason that I get out of it the sulphuric acid necessary. I do not think there is a grove better than mine in the whole country. For five or six years I have used only stable manure and dissolved bone. I use stable manure all the year. This fall we had a great deal of broom sedge put in my stable to be tramped up, anl I used this. Those are the fertilizers that we use. W. G. Peck — The gentleman made the remark that he used dissolved bone in order to get the sulphuric acid. This is an important question as regards orange culture, and I hope that during this meeting that point will be brought out.. Mr. Montgomery — In dissolved bone you get quite a good deal of sulphuric acid. In the dissolved bone, I believe that the proportion of sulphuric acid — ihat is, the amount of sul¬ phuric acid to the ton of dissolved bone, is 600 pounds. When your land has much vegetable fibre such as you get in stable manure, dissolved bone is better than anything else. Now, if you use a phosphate rock you do not get the sulphuric acid. I do not know whether it takes 600 pounds, less or more; about 800, I think. I should say that the sulphuric acid would be of the same value regardless of the substance it was mixed with. You get a better fertilizer out of bone than you do out of rock. I think that Mapes does not use any rock at all. I think he advertises this fact. I know that sulphuric acid is sulphuric acid regardless of the place you get it, and no mat¬ ter what you mix with it. I used the Charleston rock a good many years ago, and gave it up as not a good investment. I have used acid phosphate with cotton seed meal, but settled down to stable manure. Do not disturb your soil very much. You can cultivate an orange tree too much. I plow my grove over in November every year, put on a good coating of bone and manure and turn the soil over, run the cultivator over it, and then do not disturb until next year. Bermuda grass growing near small trees is not a good thing, and does not help the tree at all, but after they get bearing it does them- good. C. A. Bacon — I have a white man working for me. The other day I made a remark about stable manure which applied to cow manure. He said: “We do not call cow manure stable manure.” He seemed to consider horse and cow manure alto¬ gether different. Mr. Peck — I call stable manure horse manure altogether. FLORIDA STATE HORTICULTURAL SOCIETY. 12^ We never use the cow’s manure. Stable manure comes from horses, and I find that the more I put it on the better the plants thrive. Mr. Healy — I would like to ask Mr. Montgomery what properties he proposed to get from stable manure by using acid. Mr. Montgomery — We do not expect to get any chemical fertilizing properties out of it. The stable manure, as known by everybody, has a great deal of ammonia, which is fixed by combining with the acid. Mr. Healy — I do not think stable manure has anv sucht %> value. The analysis of average manure, according to the rec¬ ord which is to be had at all the stations in the United States, places stable manure as practically worthless. There is nothing in the stable manure, by the analysis of all the agricultural stations in the United States and in Europe, that gives it a place as a fertilizer. I will admit that it contains ammonia, but that is all. There is no potash nor any phosphoric acid in stable manure; or rather, they tell us this scientifically. I have used stable manure, and the experience has been enough to teach me to let it alone. The question has been how to fix the ammonia in the stable manure. Some use land plaster. Lately there has been a move made in the way of trying mucks to fix ammonia; that is one of the best methods, and I suppose it is because of its cheapness. I do not think it makes any dif¬ ference how you apply your stable manure if you fix a large per cent, of the ammonia. If your land is lacking in potash or if it lacks phosphoric acid, you need not put stable ma¬ nure there with the idea that you are going to get any ben¬ efit. G. H. Wright — I do not believe that we have a fertilizer in Florida that is any more valuable than stable manure. I am using it, and have been for some time and find it sat¬ isfactory. The question is how to get stable manure. Otis Richardson — I rise to say a few words and ask a few questioits, perhaps, as a young grower. I have been some twelve years trying to raise oranges. I have used the nostrums of all kinds of doctors to make that grove what it is, but I do not get good results from it. What is the mat¬ ter ? The seedling trees are doing best. I want a tree doc¬ tor, and we want a medical institution to educate doctors and send them around to look at our trees and get the right rem¬ edy and apply it. I have lost faith in most things recom¬ mended, because they have failed me. Cotton seed meal started my trees finely, and I have used muck, cow droppings and stable manure. But the grove is not bearing satisfacto- 9 128 SEVENTH ANNUAL MEETING OF THE riiy. I have tried soft phosphate with no result whatever, and, of course, I did not continue it. Some of my neighbors living on better lands are cowpenning their groves. One man has a large flock of goats. He is cow-penning with goats. They are getting splendid crops of oranges while I am not. I have a few trees near a stable where I had mamure piled up year after year, and the trees are blooming every spring and look as though they were just starting out lor a hun¬ dred years. I have not got a cow tied to every tree. If I had I might get good results. I am satisfied that all the patent medicines for trees are altogether unequal to the task of giving us a good crop of fruit and trees that will last one hundred years I believe they are stimulants, and for a short time give good results. The trees want more humus; they want more plant food, and it seems to me that there is nothing better than the vegetation grown by the ground and milled by the cow. All these other things may be good as aids but we must fall back on stable manure. There is nothing we can carry to the ground that has as many ingredients as stable manure. If some gentleman will tell me what to put on my grove, I will listen to him, and will be glad to hear his opinion. O. P. Rooks — I have been very much interested in the remarks of the last speaker. I believe that succ< ss in fruit growing and in agriculture depends upon animal manure, and in all those sections where the most success is had in keeping up and improving lands, it is from that source. The gentleman asks for information as to how to make his trees bear. Two years ago I constructed a portable cow pen about eight by ten feet, with a gate leading into that pen. I took my cow at night and put her into that pen. I put the pen between the trees, and lor from two to three weeks I kept the cow in that pen. I started at the beginning of a row and went through the grove with the pen. The re¬ sults were marvelous. The biggest crop of oranges that were ever seen in that neighborhood were produced from those trees. That is the result of the cow-penuing process. The oranges were as good as any in the neighborhood, and I got fair prices. I have used chemical fertilizers until I am almost “broke.” I shall use the cow pens in future. T. K. Godbey — I wish to relate how I raise my oranges. I am a practical man. I am my own tree doctor. I think I know what the matter is with a tree when it looks badly. I have here specimen oranges which I wish to present to the society. The trees on which they were grown are thir¬ teen years of age. They never had a spoonful of chemical fertilizers. They have been raised entirely on stable manure, FLORIDA STATE HORTICULTURAL SOCIETY. 129 except that the chickens roost in the trees. The oranges I have here were not selected; simply taken as they came. My object was to see if I could preserve oranges, and I jput some away, and when the time came I opened them, and they looked pretty well, and I want to show you that •oranges can be grown with stable manure at Waldo. I have tried phosphate on my trees, and I have tried potash on some trees as an experiment. I could not tell where I had put it. The fertilizer I did buy was bought because I cannot buy all the stable manure I want, nor make it all. I have used blood and bone, and still use it -to a small extent. I have made a good living raising fruit in Florida. I commenced without a dollar, except a piece of poor land. I have supported my family, and I have as nice a place as anybody about Waldo. I sold my oranges last year at an average of $1.10. Now, that is my experience and the result of stable manure. I wish to bring the oranges up and present them to the society. Those oranges were picked the first day of January last, and preserved by a process of my own, which I am not free to give away iust now. Mr. Peck — A great variety of opinion has been advanced this afternoon. We have not stable manure around our place so I thought I would give you a formula I have used and with very good results on poor pine lands. I purchase the material myself — sulphate of ammonia, sulphate of potash and acid phosphate. Possibly better results might be obtained from bone black, but I think if anybody who has a poor piece of land and wants a fertilizer that will do good service, will take that kind of material and get somebody to mix it for him, or do it himself, and will use about 5 per cent, of ammonia, 7 to 8 per cent, phosphoric acid, and 8 to 10 percent, actual potash v(K2 O), he will have a fine fertilizer, Mr. Bacon — This has been the longest half-day I ever expe¬ rienced, but I have learned some things. You have allowed the other gentlemen to say a few words, so I hope you will al¬ low me to do the same. 1 am a humus man, a stable manure man and a cow manure man, but at the rate oranges have been selling I cannot buy chemical fertilizers. Some seven or eight years ago I went into the humus business. I pur¬ chased quite a quantity of pig mannre from neighbors that did not want it, and dug trenches round my trees and poured it in, and at the same time I covered my grove with decayed vegetable matter. I never had such a crop of or¬ anges. They produced the most astonishing crop of fruit, and every year since then I have been so poor that I have not been able to haul the mulching. Every year that I have not had 130 SEVENTH ANNUAL MEETING OF THE time to haul this mulching, as much as I would like to, 1 have occasionally bought a few tons of fertilizer because it is so handy. I think I have been a fool for doing it. I should have bought another horse and kept him hauling old vegetable matter. 1 think I would have saved money. Use every means that you can to save money and keep it in the family. I do not wish to make any remarks, but I believe in humus. They have some beautiful groves at DeLand. I go to different parts of the east coast and I see such beautiful trees, and the rows are so straight and the fences so pretty; but they do produce large quantities of good fruit? I believe not. I say I believe in humus, and if we keep our ground covered with this we will have good results. With an orange grove completely covered by decayed vegetable matter, will not potash keep that grove in good condition ? Several members — Yes; yes. Mr. Mott— I believe in cow penning. I feed my cow with crab grass, hay, cotton seed meal, and throw a little lime in the tub in which she drinks. Yo fertilizing manufactory could mix a better fertilizer than that cow does. Irrigation in Florida. Paper read by A. J. Kingsbory, of Winter Park, Orange County, Chairman of Standing Committee on Irrigation, I believe there is an irrigation plank in the platform of this State Horticultural Society. But in the minds of many still lingers the question: “To irrigate or not to irrigate.” To others who have settled affirmatively this first question, a sec¬ ond one presents itself: “How to irrigate,” and perhaps a third one: “What to irrigate.” Of these three practical phases of the subject I propose to speak particularly in this report. I wish, however, at the outset, to call to your remembrance the very instructive and in every way admirable paper on irrigation read before this body last year by Mr. Hamlin. This paper was the initial report on this all-important sub- FLORIDA STATE HORTICULTURAL SOCIETY. 131 ject, read before the members of this society since its organiza¬ tion. 1 should like that paper to be considered introductory to what I now have to say. Its condensed presentation of the history and extent of irrigation, its conclusions and prac¬ tical suggestions are all so good and so complete that I do not now need to touch at all on the same lines. Bnt inasmuch as they are important lines and belong to the subject, I make the request that you all keep the paper of the former commit- ree well in mind. I go back now to the fundamental inquiry: “Shall we, here in Florida, under our peculiar conditions, engage in irriga¬ tion? ” I see members of this society before me who have settled this question some time ago by installing a plant for this purpose, and I doubt if there is an owner ol an irrigating plant in this house who regrets the investment, providing it is of ample capacity and its operation has given him no trouble. The total rainfall in Florida averages about 54 inches. In a cooler latitude, where the loss by evaporation from the ground and from vegetation is much less than in Florida, 54 inches of rainfall per annum, if properly distributed, is generally suffi¬ cient for the usual needs of growing crops. But in this state the rainfall is not distributed uniformly either geographically or in point of time. Mr. Demain’s reports, and statistics ob¬ tained from individuals located at various points, demonstrate the fact that some sections receive a great deal more moisture >than others. But here, with our conditions of sunshine and ■ heat and light soil, even were the rainfall evenly distributed 'throughout the state, all cultivated crops would still lack suf¬ ficient moisture to develop their best growth and set aud ma¬ nure a maximum amount of fruit. It may be said further, that there is in reality but a very •small percentage of Florida’s improved lands which, during the growing season, receive sufficient to accomplish the best results. Our rainy season usually covers a period of perhaps •six weeks. During that time all vegetation seems to be in one mad rush and scramble, each plant vying with its neighbor in luxuriant growth, flowers and fruitage. It occurred to me some years since that these conditions might be made to exist eight months in the year instead of six weeks. In spite of the protests against this way of doing from some of the oldest and most experienced agriculturists and horticulturists, I persisted m the conviction, and the posi¬ tion I then held and still adhere to has never met with discour¬ agement when accompanied by good judgment. The citrus family and nearly all other fruit trees, forage 132 SEVENTH ANNUAL MEETING OF THE plants, the small fruits, shade trees, vegetables, and I don’t know that I would omit scarcely any member of the vege¬ table kingdom, are glad to put on their finest and gayest attire of thrifty growth, producing fruit and foliage a greater part of the year, if you will only extend to them the conditions required. In the majority of cases the only ele¬ ment lacking to this condition is water. There are homes and farms scattered throughout this pen¬ insular from which the owners have struggled to secure a profitable income for the past 10, 15 or perhaps 20 years or more. These efforts have been in a measure rewarded; but I claim that the same or better results could have been ac¬ complished in from one-fourth to one-half the time actually consumed if properly aided by irrigation. Had these same farmers expended the same effort upon one-fourth the amount of land, aided by irrigation, they would have had an inde¬ pendent bank account and would have lived a great deal better than they have been able to do without irrigation. Nearly all of the older residents of Florida have had con¬ siderable experience in attempting to raise a variety of veg¬ etables for home consumption. Many of their attempts were complete failures on account of dry weather. With an ir¬ rigating plant there are no “off seasons” for fruit and no¬ dry spells to encourage insect life, drop the fruit, wither, one’s vegetables and courage. What, in fact, can be more disheartening than to see one’s toil go for naught? To plow and sow, but never reap? To plant and fertilize, cultivate and protect, watch and wait and wait again for the harveat so slow in coming, often so mea¬ ger when it comes ! Alas! too often the poor man gives up beaten, perhaps to try his lot elsewhere under different con¬ ditions. But his ambition for a second attempt is rarely equal to his first enthusiasm. He is older and the buoyant hope has vanished with the vanished years. It is evident that this lost hope is a serious evil to the man and the community. Progress is the child of courageous enterprise, and enterprise rests on hope. So I say the hope should be based on certain¬ ties, or at least on strong probabilities. When we know that the total rainfall is in the average of years insufficient, that it is unevenly distributed geographi¬ cally. being sometimes over 60 inches in one part of the state and less than 40 in other parts; that it varies greatly with dif¬ ferent years, and that in the same year it may be excessive for for a brief time, and almost, if not quite, totally lacking for months together at other times; when all this is borne in upon the consciousness of the cultivator, by years of struggle with., FLORIDA STATE HORTICULTURAL SOCIETY. 133 adverse conditions, is it any wonder that he is often over¬ burdened and gives up the light? On the other hand, the wonder is that he so generally keeps on, with gritty resolution, and conquers a half-way victory in spite of fate. Nor is it strange that one who has seen the transformation wrought by irrigation should adopt the epi¬ gram of the Western wit who ssid: “Irrigation is not a substi¬ tute for rain. Rain is a substitute for irrigation, and a very poor substitute at that.” We may as well admit that, for all practical purposes, Flor¬ ida is a semiarid couutry. It is not perhaps in such desperate need of moisture as the state of Texas, which was nevertheless defended by a native as lacking in nothing except water and good society. “Indeed,” remarked a listener, “that is ait h — 11 needs.” But we are not now studying the society ques¬ tion. That is not a question for this body of horticulturists. Yet the need of water, I claim, is fundamental. We must have it at easy command as a prime factor to general and con¬ tinuous success in a great portion of our agricultural and hor¬ ticultural operations. This leads me to the point of calling your attention to the fact that all the work of the cultivator of the soil, in these later years, has been becoming more exact and scientific. What has come to be known as intensive farming is now the practice of the most progressive and successful men. The aim is to ascertain the best methods and then to carry them out to their logical extent. When, for instance, I see my neighbor’s grove produces heavy crops of choice fruit, and does it regu¬ larly every year, and that he is prosperous in consequence of it; when I see that this does not come by chance, but as the well earned result of insight and skillful calculation, by adoption of means to ends, by thoroughness, by promptness — in short, by knowledge and industry — especially when I see such men formed into a society like this for mutual en¬ couragement and assistance, I see the best possible proof of a rapid horticultural progress and knowledge. I see men who practice this intensive, this thorough and skillful method of cultivation. If I ask you what are the great primary essentials of plant life, you will say that they are four: earth, air, moisture and plant food. T wo of these, earth and. air, we take for granted. They are everywhere. The other two are often more or less absent, and have to be supplied. Just here is where the knowledge and skill come into play. The earliest cultivator took conditions as he found them, and raised a crop or not as it happened. He learned after awhile that it was wise to fertilize. In the totally arid 134 SEVENTH ANNUAL MEETING OE THE countries he learned to use water — when he could get it. Little by little, experience and science have been broadening man’s intelligence. To-day, both fertilizers and water, enough and of the right kind at the right times, are recognized as equal factors in plant growth. If they are not naturally present, the cultivator of whom we are thinking finds means to supply them. He would rather cultivate 100 acres per¬ fectly than 200 imperfectly, or even 40 or 20, or 10 or 5, or the smallest portion ol the earth, and make it do its very best, rather than any larger amount that he could not be sure to supply with every needed advantage. And he would regard this preference not as a question of taste or pride, but as one of clear business sagacity, as so many of you have illustrated in your own experience. But all this leads back again to the question of fact with which we began. I restate it in plain terms: Is the rainfall here in Florida satisfactory to you as horticulturists? Do you have enough rain for your growing trees and plants ? Do you have enough rain when it is needed? When you most need rain do you have most? If you had the fabled power of old Jupiter Pluvius would you use it as capric¬ iously as the custom has been of late? When yon pray for three inches of rain are you not put off with a half. When you would be glad of an inch, do you get but an eighth ? When you ask for a sweet shower, are not the heavens as brass? At such crises — all too frequent, as every cultivator must need ofess — how comforting it is to have a little genii by the edge of the lake or by the side of the creek or well, who, at one’s command, will stir up the fires, open the valves and pour over the thirsty land abundant streams of life-re¬ newing water. How vegetation revives under the magical touch! How it grows! How it blooms! How it bears the full fruitage! How it crowns the year with gladness! In the light of this experience, and in view of experiences elsewhere, need I sav more to prove that the man who ir¬ rigates a tract of land no larger than he can handle thor¬ oughly and who practices intensive cultivation, is the suc¬ cessful cultivator? Of course, some men can handle more than others, either by reason of larger capital or better ad¬ ministrative ability, or both, but the amount is usually that to which a man can give his personal attention. I urge this point especially in the interest of the small culti' vator. He needs, to support a family, hut little land if it be well cultivated, but here in Florida that little must be irri¬ gated. I pass on to consider the further question: How shall we ir— FLORIDA STATE HORTICULTURAL SOCIETY. 135 rigate? This is still a problem in the minds of raanv, not only of those who do not own plants, but of those who have them. During the last two years 1 find many who have high pressure plants are using what we call the ‘‘California” system, running the water in furrows. The plan of piping with hydrants on corners of squares, from one to t wo hundred feet apart, which is coming into use here, lends itself readily to this system. The water, in almost any grove, can be placed in furrows and each hydrant’s output be made to meet that of its neighbors,, The land is so situated in some groves that it is advisable to put the water into a trough, having sides eight inches high. In these sides, and opposite the middle of spaces between rows of trees are little zinc gates and thus, into the furrows running from these gates in either direction, are dealt out miners’ inches. This trough, running across the grove at the highest point, is kept filled from hose attached to the hydrants near¬ est at hand. It is conceded that there are some reasons in favor of turn¬ ing the water into furrows, where it can be done, during the blooming season perhaps, instead of delivering it into the air through nozzles. In this way less water is lost by evapora¬ tion and it goes at once down into the ground where it may chance to meet the moist sub-soil (if there is any) and spread laterally to reach a large part of the roots. The furrow meth¬ od, under favoring circumstances, requires less labor. On the other hand, the water will not run far unless the land slopes quite preceptibly, and even on quite a steep de¬ scent a greater part of the water is absorbed in the portions of furrows nearest the supply. There is no certainty of uni¬ form distribution. If we had large ditches from which to draw our supply and uniform down grades, as the Califor¬ nians usually have we should doubtless more generally conform to their practice. But even in that case our soil is so unlike theirs that there would still remain some difficulty about it. In the majority of cases here it is best to have a high pressure system, and having it the owner can deliver the water to his trees by either method, viz: forcing it well into the air by hose and nozzle, or allowing it to find the roots by the fur¬ rows. In using; hose and nozzle, however, it is not always advis¬ able to throw the water over the trees or into the trees. It is wise at times to do so, but at other tirm s it, is well to deliver it on the surface, or at least bv a horizontal stream under the branches. If the foot-rot is present or feared, the earth often accumulated too deep around the collars of the older trees should be forced away from them by a stream of water dis- 136 SEVENTH ANNUAL MEETING OF THE charged directly among these larger roots at the base of the trunk. Two or three barrels of water thus applied serves the double purpose of cleaning the collar roots and exposing them to light and air, also carrying water to the lowest roots, where- ordinary rains or irrigation is never felt. This treatment is considered by many a certain specific for the dreaded foot-rot,, and from my own observation I feel very sure that such it* really the fact. Probably the idonl wny of irrigating is by the use of auto¬ matic sprinklers, the pipes covering the space to be treated so completely that the spray lrom the outlets will meet between them and the whole ground to be watered as by rain. All this, controlled in sections by valves, involves but trifling field work, and therefore more conveniently than other methods can be worked at night when sunshine is absent. This, as I have said, is ideal and very closely conforms to nature’s methods. But, unfortunately, when carried out on a large scale, it is very expensive in the installment; and in using, what is saved in the field is to some extent lost in the pumping station, lor the water is forced from the sprinklers subject to great lriction. Nevertheless, for use in the garden and on the lawn, where large spaces are not usually covered, nothing is so convenient as the automatic sprinkling; and when putting in a hose and nozzle plant for the grove it is always in order to cover a good garden and the ornamental grounds by the automatic system. In a special installation for a vegetable garden I would always prefer to use the sprinkler. Perhaps I should here say a lew words about the motive power for working our pumps. At present I am obliged to say this,, that wherever any large space is to be irrigated, or any con¬ siderable volume of water handled, steam is in most cases the only adequate power at command. Artesian water is supplied to some groves and other vegetation by its own pressure, where the land is less than forty feet above tide water. What motive power the future may bring forth, who can tell? We talk about wind power. We prophesy the further triumphs of electricity. We dream of concentrating the rays of the sun by reflectors. We experiment with gasoline and other mineral oils and with hot air. We fret unceasingly at the in¬ ventors for delaying the great discovery which will drive a more perfect pump than ever yet known and lift our lakes- where, at our pleasure, they will flow almost as cheap as air through our fruitful groves and gardens. Yet, after all, when we have to do real work, and do it to-day, for us here in the woods, we know of no sure reliance but steam. FLORIDA STATE HORTICULTURAL SOCIETY. 137 As to times and seasons, there is no period in the life of ara orange tree when it requires water as it does during the blooming season. Just previous to this critical time it has been dormant and the soil as a rule is comparatively dry on most of our elevated lands. The tree suddenly begins to put out a hardy new growth, as well as bloom, covering its entire surface. The chances are that moisture is wanted to bring out the growth and fully develop it, including the bloom and its setting. Then we should irrigate, and irrigate heavily,, not by continuous, daily applications, but by giving the grove a thorough wetting and then stopping until the practiced eye sees in the tops of the trees the slightest inclination of the new leaves to curl. This may occur in a dry time, from six to ten days after a thorough irrigation. Then it should have another wetting like the first. With surface water to be found at varying depths, from five to eighty feet below the surface, it is hard to state just how often subsequent applications of water should be made after the fruit is fairly set and this first new growth well developed. I find that on lands where the surface water comes within fifteen to twenty-five feet, from fi ve to eight applications of water to orange trees has been desirable every season during the past ten years. It is entirely unnecessary to suggest how often vegetables require water. It is safe to leave that to al¬ most any tiller of the soil. L’ttle need be said here about my last question : What to- irrigate. In general, the best paying “money” crops are the ones to irrigate. All citrus fruits — the orange, lemon, pomelo — in all their varieties, are kept in rapid and continuous growth, are quickened to fruitfulness and greater perfection of truit, are made strong to withstand insect and other enemies, by the judicious use of water. Pineapples are a profitable crop, but except in rare locations- it is water that, makes them so. Strawberries are a profitable crop with abundant water t o make them so. Even on high pine land, strawberries have been made to yield by the use of water (not forgetting the fertilizer), at the rate of one quart of berries for each hill. That means about 20,000 quarts to the acre. Abate one-half of that and there still remains a very profitable crop. Where there is no danger from frost, or where one can protect from frost, the use of water will insure large and profitable crops of potatoes, tomatoes, string beans, cucumbers and celery in the season of the year when prices are highest. Tne whole round of truck gardening at all seasons of the year is also made vastly more certain and productive by the use of water. 138 SEVENTH ANNUAL MEETING OF THE Tobacco is another money crop where water is most useful. It is needed lor the vineyards on which so many hopes have been hung. It is a great help — if not a necessity — for the peach orchards, the guavas, the mangoes and the bananas. These all are valuable fruits, but twice valuable when their quantity and surety are guaranteed by the use of irrigation. Many other things might be mentioned, but let this suffice. Every man knows for himself the plants, or trees, or crops he would like to raise if he could. Let me assure him that his lack of water at command is his chief lack. I do not say the only lack — location is much. Soil is a great deal. A compost heap is a great factor, and be careful to select reliable and -standard fertilizers and apply with no stinted hand. Frost, at times and in some places, is as fatal as drouth. But water can be had by those who will have it. If a man has not the means to irrigate forty acres, in most places he had much bet¬ ter not try to occupy forty acres. We have been saying for yeais: Plant no more than you can thoroughly cultivate. We now go another step and say: Plant no more than you can thoroughly cultivate and irrigate. These, pre-eminently, are the two maxims for Florida — thorough cultivation and irriga¬ tion, irrigation and thorough cultivation. Put them in the order you please, practice them wisely, choose the right crops and prosperity will surely follow. Shall I tell you in conclusion of the vision that sometimes rises before my mind’s eye? As I ride through our fair state a lovely landscape often comes in view. I stand on a swell¬ ing slope, stretching away to a clear lake whose waters reflect the midday sun and shadow the winding shores. The tall pines murmur in the breeze. The sturdier hickories and oaks, in the little valleys which now and then lead toward the lake, are hung with streamers, whether of joy or mourning, who can say ? Is it joy ior the transformation soon to come, or mourn¬ ing for the peace and solitude of nature undisturbed ? Even as I look the scene seems to change. The tall pines, for the most part, have vanished or are only left in groups here and there. I see pleasant winding roads, bordered ev¬ erywhere by thrifty trees. The arrangement seems that of the landscape artist rather than of t he land surveyor. The natu¬ ral beauties of the situation are brought forth and developed. The grades have b?en considered, and the views and the streets seem to invite further progress, as one discovers some¬ thing alluring at every turn. I see attractive looking houses here and there, each standing on a lot of sufficient size to have its own pleasure grounds, garden, groves and fields, but not ao large as to make neighborly intercourse a burden. Nor are FLORIDA STATE HORTICULTURAL SOCIETY. 139 there long uncultivated distances from one house to another. There is a small church and a school house, a railroad station and a postoflice, a store and the village inn. Conspicuous among the industrial enterprises is a canning factory, every producer bringing hither his surplus fruits and vegetables and having them canned, or the fruit made into marmalade, jellies^, jams, fruit juice and wine, and sold for the common good. It seems everywhere a community of homes. If there are none of great cost or elegance, neither are there any showing neg¬ lect or poverty. All vegetation is thrifty. The fruit trees are well grown and loaded with fruit. The lawns are green with verdure, and gay with flowers. The gardens are lull of growing and ripening vegetables. The fields are rich in prom¬ ise of good harvest. The traveler, perhaps even this body of skilled horticultu¬ rists, coming suddenly upon this vision of beauty and success¬ ful industry, is greatly astonished. The vast stretches of thirsty land on evt ry side are recalled. The ragged little pio¬ neer towns rise up to enforce the doubt. Abandoned houses and groves, and the wrecked hopes of unsuccessful venture, prompt the traveler to say: “Where am I ? Is this Florida?” Yes, this is the real Florida. Thus it is best to have from the first an irrigated settlement. This town of my fancy had its water put in before a lot was sold. Every lot averaging per¬ haps no more than five acres, and the whole aggregating a mile or more each way, had a water main brought to its boundary. The original cost of the plant wTas added to the cost of the land, and the purchase of the land carried with it a right to th»- perpetual delivery of water, a given quantity to each acre, subjected, however, to a perpetual annual charge upon each acre sold, for running expenses and renewal fund. When you remember the very low price of most unimproved land in this state, it will be seen that the cost of an irrigating plant divided among 600 or 1,000 acres, would not make the aggregate cost nearly so high as the speculators often put upon the bare land without water. The annual charge also would be almost nominal. I have supposed each owner to do the piping on his own premises. It is also necessary to suppose the management of this enterprise, its initiative and maintaining force, to be in a far-seeing and broad minded man or company, who would be content with a reasonable profit, who had sufficient capital, and great tact and good judgment. Such combinations are not so rare as is sometimes supposed. The chief difficulty is in interesting men of the right stamp. But I must not weary you with pictures or prophecies. I 140 SEVENTH ANNUAL MEETING OF THE tiave indeed only transferred and adapted to Florida a very common sight in California and the far west. Irrigated colo¬ nies are there numerous and rapidly increasing. We need them here. They will make our state prosperous. They will fill up the waste places. They will give opportunities for thousands of people to make beautiful homes for themselves and their families. They will lead to other industries beyond what I have so briefly sketched, and help on the prosperity, education and happiness of our whole people. Such is my faith in irrigation. I believe that faith to be founded on facts, sustained by cool reasoning and confirmed by years of careful observation among the conditions here existing. Marketing Oranges, Yerbal report by T. Hind, of Georgetown, chairman of Standing Committee on Marketing. I have not had the pleasure of meeting either of the other two members of this committee to consult with them. I have written to each gentleman, however, and have received from one of them his views. The season that we have passed through has been the most disastrous one in the history of orange growing. The amount realized from our crop this season (the largest we have ever had) has been the smallest any of us ever dreamed ol getting, and I believe there is not one of us here to-night who, had he known that after these years of toil he would receive no more for the product of his labors than he has this year, would have embarked in the business. The year 1893 will be remembered by all engaged in the culture of oranges as a year for phenomenally low prices. The chair¬ man of your Marketing Committee last year, Mr. Bean, stated that over 50 per cent, of the crop of 1892 has been sold in the state and he predicted the experience of last year would bring buyers into the state for the whole crop this year. This prediction was not fulfilled in my section. Buyers have never been so scarce. Admitting that the best plan would be to sell on the tree, experiences this year have demonstrated that / FLORIDA STATE HORTICULTURAL SOCIETY. 141 we are partners in this ideal business. The man who will give a fair price tor our goods has come this year in large numbers. Furthermore, experience has demonstrated to us that the average grower would rather part with his fruit to a man one thousand miles away than to a man with a certified check in his pocket. Now, as to the reasons assigned for this year’s disasters: One of them is the rushing to market of green fruit. Last September the state was flooded with circulars soliciting con¬ signments of green fruit and stating that they had facilities for coloring it. Having located sixteen years ago north of the fro'st line I have selected lor planting only those varieties of oranges that would mature early and permit of their being marketed by December 15, hence I was interested enough in the scheme advertised to go to New York and see for mvself the kind of fruit they received. I sent ahead four shipments of early fruit. Some of the oranges were from seedling trees around my house. On reaching New York I called on the firm and found that two of my shipments had already been sold and also found their salerooms stocked with fruit. They refused to impart their mode of coloring. My fruit three or four days after arrival was shown me well colored. The oranges were not being sold according to their ripeness. My sour seedling fruit netted as much as my early oblongs. The West India fruit is boxed and sold as Florida fruit. I saw with my own eyes barrels of West India fruit being trans¬ ferred from the barrels into boxes bearing the private marks of some of the gentlemen here to-night. The orange season is lengthened by early shipments; this is of great advantage if it can be done successfully. A peculiar circumstance con¬ nected with the shipment of green fruit was this: Compara¬ tively few of them were of our early varieties and very little of the fruit came from Duval, St. Johns and Clay counties ; the bulk came from Manatee and Polk counties. Another reason for low prices is the shipping to irresponsi¬ ble commission men. Why at this date, after so much dis¬ cussion, there should be growers who persist in sending their goods to commission merchants who are irresponsible, is inex¬ plicable. As I was going along Bainbridge street one day, I saw a lot of fruit along the ferry and a heavy rain was pour¬ ing on the boxes and soaking them through. Whom the com¬ mission men blamed when they sent their account sales to the growers I do not know. There are fruit commission mer¬ chants who make a specialty of Florida fruits and keep good storage room, but so long as we persist in sending fruit to ir¬ responsible men, low prices wiil inevitably be the result. During the past season shipping oranges in bulk has grown in SEVENTH ANNUAL MEETING OF THE favor. Not having any experience in shipping in this man¬ ner, I am unable to say how the venture turned out, but from the reports of several gentlemen and the conversations 1 have had with them, I think they have been mainly successful. This mode of shipping, saving as it does, the great expense of boxes, paper, wrapping and picking, is destined to grow in favor with the shippers. • During the early part of the season, shipments of oranges to England largely increased over other seasons. Mr. Ives, the general manager ol the Florida Fruit Exchange, informs me that the shipments sent over during the seasons 1892 and 1893 netted shippers f. o. b. at their stations $1.42 per box. He also informed me that no statistics have been compiled for this year yet. It may perhaps be wise to call the attention of the Society to the fact that there is a movement being agitated in New York to control the sale of fruit at auction by permitting none but members of the fruit exchange to bid, thus shutting out dealers and peddlers. This I think would be a serious blow to the auction system of sales. From the best advice I have and from consultation with numerous people and by correspondence with growers, I feel confident in asserting that the proceeds, from our oranges was not above 20 per cent, of what they sold for the previous season. When it takes from 60 to 80 per cent, of any pro¬ duct for marketing it, it does seem to me that a sensible and reasonable man should seriously study the situation. It can have but one end and that universal disaster to the business and distress and poverty to the growers. The enormous amount charged for the carriage of our fruit to market is far beyond what is charged for any other commodity grown upon the soil. The statistics as furnished to the Inter-State Com¬ merce Commission by the managers of the different railroads of this country, show that the average cost of moving a ton of freight is something under six mills per mile. Now, if each one of you will take and figure for yourself the amount of freight charged you to the basing point, be it Jacksonville, Gainesville or Callahan, estimating twenty-five boxes to the ton, you will see that you are paying from 100 per cent, to 1,000 per cent, beyond the actual cost of carriage. That is not the worst feature. We all know that water transpoi tation is far cheaper than railroad transportation, but if you allow to the coastwise steamers engaged in this trade the same rate per mile that it costs the railroad companies to carry a ton of freight, you will find that they are exacting from you over and above the cost, of carriage 25 per cent, to 50 per cent. FLORIDA STATE HORTICULTURAL SOCIETY. 143 We are confronted by this condition, that owing to the close business arrangement of the different companies and the coast¬ wise steamers we can expect no relief except it is unanimous. As I understand it, they are bound under a very heavy pen¬ alty not to decrease the rate. It does seem to me as chair¬ man of this committee that it would be wise on the part of this Association to take every measure of relief that is at hand, no matter where it comes from. We cannot afford to wait ; we cannot afford to let any sentiment stand in the way. It is business, pure and simple. Transportation., No paper or written report presented on this topic. A synopsis of the discussion is given below. Major G. P. Healy, Putnam county, Chairman of the Stand¬ ing Committee on Transportation, made a verbal report, re¬ counting the details of the arrangements made for the trans¬ portation of members to and from the meeting. He did not think it the province of the committee to go into the general subject of the transportation of our products to markets. As a purely commercial question it had no place in the proceed¬ ings of the society. Now that it had become more or less a political question, it was still less an appropriate question for discussion. It was wholly foreign to the purpose for which the society had been organized and carried on. It was in vio¬ lation of its constitution and by laws. Whenever introduced it was the cause of useless contention and acrimonious debate. He fully realized the importance of the transportation ques¬ tion; it was a business matter of vital importance to every fruit grower. He did not underrate the neoessity of securing an immediate remedy of existing evils in this direction. In view of the prevailing low prices of our products in market, the present rates of freight were partially prohibitive; the very existence of our industry depended upon speedy relief. But he deplored the effort being made to use this society as a means of agitating the question. If, by sacrificing the soci¬ ety, some practical benefits in the matter of transportation 10 144 SEVENTH ANNUAL MEETING OF THE could be obtained, he might be willing to sacrifice the society;. But it was manifestly impossible to accomplish anything in this direction through the society. The attempt could only result in lowering the tone and standing of the society, if in¬ deed, it did not bring about actual disruption. He was in fa¬ vor of an organization for the specific purpose 01 dealing with this question, and it was a matter ot sufficient magnitude to occupy its entire attention. Such an organization would have his hearty sympathy and support, and he believed that, if or¬ ganized upon a business basis, as it should be to deal with a business question, it could not fail of accomplishing the de¬ sired object. But this was a scientific society, and he must protest against this subject being brought before it. Mr. E. B. Carlton, of Arcadia, DeSoto county, said that he could not agree with the gentleman preceding him. He be¬ lieved the work of this meeting would be in vain if the mem¬ bers went home without acting upon this particular question. He was not only a grower but also a shipper. He had lost money on nearly all his shipments the past season, and the railroad people had the benefit of them. He had put money and time into the business for the benefit of the commission merchants and the railroads. If it must continue in this way, he thought the average growers had better give up the business. Five years ago we shipped 100,000 boxes of oranges which sold for high prices. To-day our crop amounted to 5,000,000 boxes and the prices were low. Yet we were paying the same lines the same rates for transporting our product. Prices were still going down, we were losing money, and the question is what we were going to do about it. What were we going to do with the fruit pioduced? and what was the use of produc¬ ing fruit unless we get a paying price for the product ? Mr. Carlton cited instance after instance in which he had shipped cars of Iruit which sold for fairly good prices, but which, after deducting the transportation and commission charges, left him behind the cost of production. He said that California, with but 2,000,000 boxes, had se¬ cured a favorable rate to the northern markets; a better rate to the same markets than we have with 5,000,000 boxes, al¬ though we are a thousand miles nearer. California had se¬ cured this by organization; we could secure corresponding benefits simply by organizing. We raised better fruit than they did, but we fell behind them when it came to marketing it. He knew no other product that was marketed with as little business sense as the Florida orange. It was a useless waste to put labor, experience and capital into the orange business, and to come here for a week at a time to learn to grow this FLORIDA STATE HORTICULTURAL SOCIETY. 145 fruit all for the benefit of the railroad corporations and the •commission men. He believed there was a remedy; that it lay in organization; that if the matter was properly taken up the railroads would meet the growers half way. He did not believe, as had been suggested by some, that it was necessary to go to Atlanta and appear before the Tariff Association. Only a day before he had been assured by a railroad official whose attention he called to these rates, that he would take pleasure in meeting such an association for the purpose of devising a more equit¬ able rate. The members of the society did not seem willing to invite the railroad representatives to discuss these matters with them. What then could be done. Will the rates better themselves? The railroad’s interests and the fruit grower’s interest are mutual. They should go hand in hand. If the fruit growers of' the state are successful, the railroads will be successful aho, and they are not going to make a rate and maintain that rate if it will retard the progress of their traffic. The facts must be put before them. They must be made to understand them. If we organized, we could do as much as California. If the society did not take the matter in hand, in his opinion, this neglect of duty would be a matter of regret later on. Mr. Healy, Chairman of the Transportation Committee, said no grower was more willing than he to take a part in an association for the purpose of ascertaining and applying a remedy for these transportation evils. But “you might just as w’ell apply for a remedy in your transportation matters, to the king of the cannibal islands, as to ask the general freight agents of the State of Florida to meet you here. It would be a wretched far^e. They have nothing to do with the making of freight rates. If you go to Atlanta and invite the South¬ ern Freight Association to meet you here, and convince them that the rates are wrong (your committee is satisfied that the rates are wrong), or if you appoint a committee to go before these people and make their demands, I have no doubt but that they would be entertained, and I believe that is one way to remedy the rate; and I believe that something might be accomplished, but these people here in Florida are not in it a little bit. They make a rate, and the great big Pennsylvania railroad dots an ui” and they are smashed out of existence. They are nowhere. They do not know anything about it. Now, the orange grower can remedy his rates, and these men that get up and make a great howl about the rate and then put their hands in their pockets and contribute 10 per cent, of th eir earnings to transport their product, can have all they .have got to New York, Philadelphia, Boston or Baltimore, 146 SEVENTH ANNUAL MEETING OF THE London or Chicago, for 50 or 75 per cent, cheaper than they do now. Will they doit? Not a man. If you opened a subscription of stock to be paid in cash that would open a line on a highway on which nobody has the right of way, and on which everybody has the right of way, be your own transpor¬ tation companies, and ship to New York, England and the east for twenty-five cents, how many would you get to sub¬ scribe, and how much money would you raise ? and how many would pay if they agreed to ? I have been at the birth and death of a dozen Florida orange growers’ unions, and I re¬ joiced when they were born, and went into sackcloth and ashes when they died. Mr. President, your Chairman of Committee on Transportation hopes, of all things, that this society will not be brought into the disrepute of doing any¬ thing that can have no possible good ending.” Mr. Thomas Hind was in favor of any movement looking to the reduction of freight rates. He thought it unjust that the men to whom millions of acres of the best lands in Florida had been given as a bonus against possible loss in operating railroads in this new country, should refuse to reduce a rate ^o palpably unjust. The rates were fixed by the Southern Traffic Association. He did not know how much influence the various roads included had with this Association. He would not stop with subordinates, but would carry the matter to the two or three men who controlled this Association. It was a nice state of affairs that we should come here and take up day after day in discussing the best modes of raising the finest fruit ever plucked, and go on making investments and spending years of toil simply to increase the wealth of the rail¬ roads which leave us but a third of what our product should yield us. It might not be possible to organize, there had been failures in that direction, but it was certain we could never succeed if we did not try. The only way to bring the roads to terms was to insist that the rates be reduced, and the only way to insist effectively was through organization. It had been suggested that we build ships of our own to carry our fruit. This should not be necessary. If it were not for our national shipping laws preventing ships carrying foreign flags engaging in coastwise commerce, we could charter all the vessels we needed. He was in favor of the repeal of these laws. The mere fact of their repeal would de¬ stroy the monopoly controlling coastwise traffic and would bring down the rates without the chartering of a single ship. Such a bill was now before congress and he urged upon the Society the passage of a solution favoring this bill. Mr. J. D. Crews thought it was time to start the ball rolling, that it should not be allowed to stop until relief was obtained FLORIDA STATE HORTICULTURAL SOCIETY. 147 and until the rates, which under present conditions amounted to extortion, should be brought within reasonable limits. He went at length into the question of rates, citing numerous in¬ stances in support of his position. Mr. John Darby said he had listened to the remarks of the gentlemen, that there was no doubt we had the disease, but he had heard no good remedy. Mr. Healy had made a re¬ mark about going to Atlanta. As he (Mr. Darby) understood the transportation business, all these roads entering the state of Florida have entered into a combination or an Association for the purpose of protecting their own rates and in doing so they have entered into an agreement that if one roads cuts the rates that road is subject to a fine for each offense. That As¬ sociation is in Atlanta or has its headquarters there, and a request for lower rates forwarded to a general freight agent in the state of Florida would enable that agent to give a con¬ cession on rates to the state line, but he would be powerless to give you rates outside of his state. He had made some very careful inquiries into the question of rates and their abuse; the transportation companies were as much interested as we were ; for this reason, if they impoverish the orange industry they will certainly reduce the amount of freight they get. The rate on oranges from Jacksonville to Chicago is 60 cents per box of eighty pounds, in carload lots only ; on apples from Chicago to Florida the rate is 40 cents per 100 pounds. On fresh meats, which is a perishable freight, the rate is 4 3 cents from Chicago to Florida. On 100 pounds of meat the railroad companies assume a liability of $16. On eighty pounds of orangesthey assume a liability’of $1. There was injustice there. From Jacksonville to the Ohio river, 863 miles, the proportion is 46 cents; north of the Ohio river, a distance of 300 miles to Chicago, it is 14 cents. The average price on oranges in the state of Florida on an average haul of 200 miles is 18 cents. Now, we have not only to contend with the railroads in Florida, but we have to contend with their connections. He was not putting n a defence of railroads and he would like very much to advocate the popular side, but the railroad companies were in this position in this state. They could not ask the railroads outside of this state to reduce their propor¬ tion, for when they did, the outside railroads would say, “why do you not reduce yours ?” and if they did reduce, the proba¬ bilities are the reduction would be covered by an increase by some of the intermediate lines. So he thought Mr. Healy very nearly right in his suggestion that we go before the commissioner in Atlanta. The orange industry has got into a position where the transportation companies realized that it was impossible for it to go on much longer without conces- 148 SEVENTH ANNUAL MEETING OF THE sions in rates, and furthermore, a concession in rates would enable the orange growers to produce that much more fruit. The matter should be taken up in the best manner. We should pursue a course of policy before endeavoring to an¬ tagonize and see if we could not get a concession in that way. He would go into a company formed for the purpose of build¬ ing a transportation line. He would contribute his mite and would take all interest in the project, but could it be made a success? Could it be done? And it we failed after antago¬ nizing the railroads, we would be powerless. What we wanted was a lower transportation rate on the next crop of oranges and to get direct benefit instead of indirect benefit. He would favor as a resolution that this Society appoint a committee of two or more with the request that the board of trade of Jack¬ sonville appoint a similar committee and also the Orange Growers’ Association to be formed, to wait on this Traffic As¬ sociation in Atlanta, present the facts before them and see if we could not get a concession. The railroads outside the state of Florida participate in the benefits of our crop to the extent of millions of dollars a year and they make that in two months. As a result of the last orange crop the grower was unable to pay for the fertilizers he needed, in the absence of fertilizer there would be a short crop and unless they aid us they will destroy an industry out of which they get millions of dollars Mr. Hind said that all the transportation companies in¬ terested in carrying fruit from Florida had formed an organi¬ zation, a “combine in other words, they had formed exactly what we ought to try and form. They were in a certain business; they got together to adjust their affairs and we should do the same thing. Mr. Healy wanted to know if we could get these rates by fighting. This fight had been going on for years, but he had not seen any better rates yet. If anyone had a formula or plan for getting rid of the trouble, he would be glad to bear it. Mr. W. H. Mann wanted to know what all this amounted to. The railroads were not to blame ; if we were fools enough to pay their tariff, let them have it. Why did we not go to work ourselves and organize and send a committee to the railroads and say that if the rates were not adjusted we would go to other lines. S. S. Harvey — I have lived in California. There they or¬ ganize and are not afraid to put their hands into their pockets to do it. The only remedy was to organize, and if it was necessary to build a steamer to carry your fruit, to build it. FLORIDA STATE HORTICULTURAL SOCIETY. 149 No talk was going to do any good. He had been fighting railroads for twenty years. Until we could keep together and go to the railroads with a firm demand, we could get nothing from them. Until we organized it was no use to keep talking. We must put our shoulders to the wheel. O. P. Rooks thought this was a subject in which we were very much interested, and as we had with us two gentle¬ men who had given a great deal of practical thought to the question, these problems having been before them and they having prepared a paper that they hoped to be able to present to the Society and, as some plan had been asked for, lie hoped to hear their paper read. C. F. A. Bielby disliked to antagonize Mr. Rooks, but was it right and proper for gentlemen who had some scheme or other on hand to come before the State Horticultural Society asking to lay before this Society that scheme? He thought this outside our province. If we allow one gentleman or two gentlemen to come in here and read us a paper which they have prepared on the organization of the state and upon the methods they think good, and make a Jubilee day come for him or them, we were bound to throw ourselves open to everything else and heretofore we had guarded this Society against being made a place lor the originators of transporta¬ tion ideas to come and orate upon their plans and spread them, through us, to the world. We were purely a scientific body and he believed the judgment of nine-tenths of all the old members of the Society to be against such a course. He protested against it. “When we admit the reading of such papers before the Society, the day of its dissolution begins. I believe it to be right and reasonable that we should calmly discuss every situation which makes progress towards our elevation and success. If any man has a plan fully perfected which has been published broadcast to the world and he comes here and properly discusses it, I do not object to it, but this is not the proper place to boom new ideas. I do not believe it is right tor us to appoint committees to go to At¬ lanta and meet committees on transportation matters. I do not believe we have any right to petition congress for a tariff to be put on or taken off anything. The purpose of our meet¬ ings is to interchange ideas that we have formed during the work of the year and everything that could be said for our mutual benefit and interest in the raising of fruit. If it is to be a question of one phase and the other phase of agitation, then I say that the Society will appear to the world as a political body and will be taking a step towards its dis¬ ruption. 150 SEVENTH ANNUAL MEETING OF THE Mr. Lyman Phelps protested against this matter coming be¬ fore the society. Mr. Rooks thought it a proper subject for the society’s con¬ sideration. He also thought it perfectly right and proper for the society to petition congress for the passage of the bill re¬ ferred to, which would solve the problem of water transpor¬ tation, and he introduced a resolution having this object. Mr. Bielby was aware that some members were agreed as to the good policy of the passage of this bill, and he suggested that they form an organization while here, for the purpose of petitioning for its passage. Bat he objected to having politi¬ cal subjects coming before the society and becoming part of its minutes. He did not object to a petition of this character being made by an organized body and authorized party. He did not object to their asking our representatives to work for such a bill. But it was by no means the unanimous wish that the society take such action; it was a political matter, and he objected to this society being captured to be used for political purposes. Mr. Hind asked why, if railroad matters should not be men¬ tioned here, the society had a Standing Committee on Trans¬ portation. Mr. Bielby replied that we had a Committee on Transporta¬ tion for the purpose upon which the chairman had made his report. There was also a wide range of subjects that prop¬ erly came within the scope of such a committee without touch¬ ing the question of rates. In view of the lines upon which this question of rates was being agitated, it approached very closely to politics and led almost unavoidably to political dis¬ cussion, as was patent to all after what had been said. And, aside from this, it was purely a business matter, and as such, had no place in our discussions. It was a very proper subject for the action af an association organized for such purposes, but was out of place in a scientific body like this society. He did not so much object to the calm discussion of the transpor¬ tation question, but when it was proposed to petition congress to do something purely political, he did object, and insisted that the resolution was out of order. After considerable further discussion of the subject, Mr. C. A. Bacon said: What we want is individual action. We have heard the remarks of Mr. Healy, that it is oi no use to go to the transportation companies here in the state; he is not pos¬ itive that it would be of any use to go to Atlanta. We have heard the report of the gentlemen of their receipts obtained for oranges; we have all had such receipts for our oaanges, and I must say that several times this season I have been FLORIDA STATE HORTICULTURAL SOCIETY. 151 ashamed of myself, that I should work twelve months, pack my oranges as nicely as I could, box them, ship them to New York, and have returns come back that yielded not enough to pay my hired help. I would like to ask a question as to a matter I am not thoroughly posted on. I simply wish to put the question; the members might say yes or no, to save time. Do they really believe there has been money enough received back from the north to pay for all the expenses of the crop of oranges this year? Cries of No! No! Now gentlemen, as to this question of transportation: It has been clearly shown here that there is no use to resolve and resolute on the question. Resolutions do not amount to a row of pins; applications to railroad companies do not amount to a row of pins. Now, how are you going to bring the trans¬ portation companies to terms ? We have been working along the lines suggested for years. We have not made one step in advance. If our returns have been insufficient to pay us for raising the last crop, and this seems clear, what is the use of shipping the next crop ? Let us stop right here and go into no more expenses for the next year’s crop, and if we do this, will not the railroads come to us and ask us to ship our or¬ anges, and will they not give us a rate at which we can afford to ship ? Place of Next Meeting— Jacksonville Selected. G. H. Wright, of Chuluota — I move the place of next meet¬ ing be taken up. Carried. The President — The question of location of next meeting is before the society. Have any communications been re¬ ceived upon the subject? 152 SEVENTH ANNUAL MEETING OF THE The Secretary — The following has been received. (Reads.) Rooms of the Board of Trade, ) Jacksonville, Florida, April 11, 1894. i Dudley W. Adams, President Florida State Horticultural Society . Dear Sir: The Jacksonville Board of Trade extends a cor¬ dial invitation to your organization to hold its next annual meeting in this city, and profers the use of its rooms for its sessions. Respectfully, Chas. H. Smith, Secretary. A member — I move that the invitation be accepted. The President — The subject before the society is deter¬ mining the location of next meeting. You have heard the in¬ vitation from the Jacksonville Board of Trade. It is moved that the invitation be accepted. A. G. Avery (of Orlando) — I suggest as an amendment that we meet in Orlanno next year. A member — I think we should accept the invitation of the Jacksonville Board of Trade for the reason that there are ho¬ tel accommodations in Jacksonville for all who may want to come. The hotels of Orlando will uot comfortably accommo¬ date this body at this season of the year. W. A. Cooper (ot Orlando) — We can accommodate at Or¬ lando three times as many as are in attendance here. I think that it is due to that portion of the state that the meeting be held there. We will take good care of you. I hope the so¬ ciety will decide to convene next year at Orlando. S. S. Harvey (of Molino, Escambia county,) — I trust this motion to amend will not prevail. 1 hope we have about set¬ tled down in Jacksonville [applause]. I have this hope because I am in the extreme western part ot the state. I am nearly 400 miles west of this place, yet I can get here in a day. It would take me two days to reach Orlando. It will be very difficult for the people of West Florida to retain their active interest in this society if they must make a two or three day’s journey into southeastern Florida to reach its meetings. It seems to me it is advisable to stay in the center where all can reach the meetings. I have attended meetings of this society and like conventions all over the state of Florida, and I never had any comfort in attending assemblies of this kind in any small town. The large hotels in the small places are closed at the season when our meetings are held. Some like to go to the large hotels, others do not; in a city of this size all can be .accommodated. The city does not feel a crowd. Here in Jack- FLORIDA STATE HORTICULTURAL SOCIETY. 153". sonville you meet all the business men in the state with whom, you have dealings. It is more easy of’ access than any other place in Florida. The next meeting should be held in Jack¬ sonville. Mr. Avery — I think the gentleman is slightly mistaken in regard to Orlando’s ability to take good care of the society. I feel that we have a claim upon you for Orlando. If it is not ad-- visable to hold the next meeting there, and we hope it will be advisable to do so, then we shall expect you at some future time. A. H. Cary (of Orlando) — I wish to state one thing in ref¬ erence to Orlando: We have any amount of accommodations there, and we can increase our capacity if necessary. But there may be other reasons why Jacksonville would be the best meeting place. The President — The question is on the amendment substi¬ tuting Orlando for Jacksonville. Amendment lost. The motion is to meet in Jacksonville next year in response., to the invitation of the Board of Trade. Carried. The next meeting will be held in Jacksonville. Resolutions of Thanks. Whereas , The Hon. L. B. Wombwell generously came to- the aid of this society and printed aud published the Journal of the last session without charge, issuing it first in bulletin, and afterward in book form, thus insuring for it a wide cir¬ culation, thererore, Be it resolved , That the cordial thanks of this society are tendered Mr. Wombwell, aud an assurance of deep apprecia¬ tion of his graceful act of assistance. And, Be it further resolved , That the secretary of this society be 154 SEVENTH ANNUAL MEETING OF THE instructed to send a copy of this preamble and resolution to Mr. Womb well. Be it resolved , That the thanks of this association are due,, and are hereby tendered to the Board of Trade of the city of Jacksonville for the use of their rooms, and for the many courtesies extended. And that the secretary is instructed to make this expression by an appropriate letter. Be it resolved , That the general passenger agents of the railroads of Florida have extended to them through the secre¬ tary, an expression of appreciation and thanks for the low rate charged the members of the society in attendance at this^ meeting. , L Nllimiim llS B°taniCal Garden Library 3 5185 00269 0855