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Ha ha. All right.

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[...]

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That was the first,
the oldest of six Catholic children.

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And I went to a Catholic school for
my whole grammar school period.

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It was astutely Catholic.

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But by the time I was 11,
I kind of demanded that I be put into a public

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school, which my parents did for two years.

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But then I started turning into such a
little scowlag, responding to the early

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vibrations of the rock culture,
wanting to have a duck tail.

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All the accoutrements of the
young hoe daddy in 1957 or 1958.

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And so I was put for a year
into a fine young man's school.

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I was miserable at this prep school,
but on the other hand, my mind saw it

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constantly for our means of escape.

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So I really fixated heavily
on the ocean as a symbol.

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So I started surfing that summer.

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My identity became so tied up with surfing.

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And surfing was a stimulus.

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So strong, you know,
it was really good for me physically.

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Plus it got me going through the motions
of finding things, exploring California.

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It's so precarious, you know.

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I mean,
you're literally inside a tube of water.

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You're in the eye of the wave,
and it's terrifying.

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It really is.

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But it's also exhilarating.

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Extremely psychedelic.

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Your senses are just barraged by energy.

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I've been doing it for 12 years.

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I still relate to it, but it's not.

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I used to be a surfer, first and foremost.

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Now I might think, well, I'm really a mammal.

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Oh, this thing's sketchy so loaded?

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They're just the finest thing
that ever hit these people.

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Mike and I got those people so loaded
at that party that we were at that

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everybody forgot, they just forgot any trips.

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Everybody was just sitting there.

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They were just sitting there
digging each other and digging

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me and digging Michael.

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It was a primal feeling,
really a primal feeling.

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We had a really high
collection of people there.

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That really helped.

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Hot is almost a constant.

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Smoking weed.

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The first J I smoked during a day always
is unique, you know, because it's kind

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of a fresh impetus to the nervous system.

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And so overall effect is one of

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kind of being a tranquilizer, actually.

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My status piece for the season,
hand-printed Christmas card.

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The idea I got from the tarot, one of my
favorite cards in a card corresponding

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to me astrologically, is the hermit.

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Sometimes I project into my myth qualities
that are ascribed to this particular

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sign, which is a, I think it represents a
person or an aspect of the personality,

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the evolving personality, where it's reached

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not the final degree of enlightenment.

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Like you can't call him really a master
of wisdom, but yet he's the attained

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degree of wisdom or world knowledge,
sufficient that he has a responsibility to

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turn on his brothers, you know, his fellow man.

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Hello.

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[...] Kitten. That's Sharon. That's my brother.

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What are you doing?

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Getting loaded.

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What have you been doing?

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Nothing.

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You sound speech.

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Shh.

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I just came by to see some
of your pots and stuff.

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I went by some for Christmas
presents and stuff.

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Do you have any?

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I went to Orange Coast College,
a junior college, for a year and a half after

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high school, although I didn't know then
why I was doing it, nor do I ignore now.

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This is what we do next.

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And I got turned on to drugs
kind of when I was going there.

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And at the same time,
I got caught by my parents returning on,

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which caused, you know, just shrieking.

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My son died on June 16th,
and I got sent to the shrink to get better.

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At the end of that summer,
I took acid, and it just blew my mind.

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Like, it was so extreme in experience.

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A real acid trip, you know, is like,
it's beyond pleasure, it's beyond pain, it's

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beyond complacency, it's beyond fear.

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You just fucking get your mind blown.

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Okay. How's things been going?

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We had a pretty good month in December
because I sold a bunch of pottery.

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Oh, you did? Good. Yeah.

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Did you keep a list of how much you made?

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I made about 75 bucks.

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You didn't keep a record?

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No. Because I gave so many of them away.

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Are you still doing this?

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Yeah, but I haven't any now.
I've been doing a little carpentry thing.

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Like, I'm doing it for a brother downtown, and

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he's got about as much money as I do.

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I think I made about making somewhere
upwards of 25 bucks a week.

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Sharon? Yeah.

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You still working for the health department?

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I was in a period of taking a lot of
LSD and living in, actually living the,

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just the archival dropout
existence in town here.

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And when you're, you know, when you're
taking psychedelic chemicals, you're

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really sensitive to the fact that

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what you've normally recognized as
being reality, you know, how your

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consciousness reacts to the everyday bullshit,
there is just a

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fraction of what's there.

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And so usually you kind of undertake a
search to find what you think is real and

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what isn't,
what will verify the experiences you've

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had, you know, taking these drugs,
and what doesn't.

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And the tarot, the tarot isn't LSD,
but LSD and the tarot are both

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involved in self-realization.

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You have been looking for work, haven't you?

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Oh, yeah. Well, I...
You know, like, I'm not idle.

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I built that bedroom before you came.

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Yeah, I'm going to get out of the light.

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What? That extension out there.

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And I built on an extension of the bathroom.

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But I live in a, I don't know what
you'd call the community I live in, but

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nobody's got any money.
So, like, I work every week.

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But sometimes I do it for free.

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I used to work at the Akron about a year ago.

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I worked at the Akron. It was a disclaimer.

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But besides some, I mean, I

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couldn't work for the Akron because of
some of the things they were selling.

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I just couldn't believe it,
you know, like they're selling DDP.

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You know, it's like committing
suicide slowly to assist, you know.

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You know,
that destructive a phase of the marketplace.

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I've taken just about every psychedelic
except for organic mushrooms.

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I don't know how many times I've dropped.
I could probably estimate around 150.

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Most of it's been a waste. Most of it's

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just been a burden on my nervous system,
frankly.

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Maybe the 150 doses, you know,
trips I've taken, 10 really stand out.

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You know,
10 really were psychedelic experiences.

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I just didn't take enough or I took
too much in the wrong place, you know.

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You can really goof taking the things,
that's for sure.

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If you're in a hung up state and you take them,
I mean, it's going

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to focus right in on that, usually.

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And you can have what is called a bun trip,
which is just meaning you get sucked

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away by some unresolved aspect
and you can't get free of it.

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Bun trips are all kinds of things, but

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they can really be avoided, I think, a lot.

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I did two years.
I did it last year and I didn't like it at all.

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I didn't do it for a year
and then I did it two weeks

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ago for the Christmas formal.

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The Christmas formal is a fucking compliment.

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Just see, you know, because the
Christmas formal last year is so funny.

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I thought, well, maybe I didn't like
Mexican before, but I had such a good time.

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It was just so funny.

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It's a nice chemical. I mean,
it stimulates nice parts of your consciousness.

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I think these are times where if we're
going to survive on a very large scale, we

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have to stop acting blindly, you know,
acting by impulse and on an ego

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level and investigate what we really need
as a whole being and act in accordance

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to the needs of the species rather than
what TV tells you that you ought to be.

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And mostly in terms of what you consume
and what you can afford and what you own.

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And Asif definitely does that.
It cuts away the bullshit.

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No stocks or bonds.
Do you have any court ordered payments?

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Charles Fort Alimony,
payments probation department.

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Are you attending college
or receiving any training?

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I'm receiving lots of training up at the
pottery school, but it's all, it's just

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on a, there's no capital involved.
It's just Brother Lou [...]

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Those are beautiful sized buttons.

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That one's thick.

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I had some Navajo Indians from the
Native American church ceremony.

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Outside. That's the last time
I was taking a psychedelic.

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It was so good I haven't wanted to since.

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They know how to use that medicine. So good.

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If you take a cap of Mescalin or
Psilocybin or LSD, you're taking a cap of

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whatever somebody decided they were
going to make in the market, you know,

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because this stuff is part of the marketplace.

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And so I don't take commercial LSD.
I just don't do it because I've, you know,

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too many fucking times I've taken a drug
and in 20 minutes I've known I've taken

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some bum fucking drug.

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The peyote, there's no doubt,
you know who made it.

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The fuzz, there's kind of this spiny
fiberglass like fuzz in the center.

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And I'm not sure what the chemical content is,
but it's repulsive deed.

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Actually,
the fresh peyote cactus is repulsive deed.

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You need orange in this world.

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You need one piece of orange with a
button and it tastes really good.

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It's a good combination.

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You just take the fuzz out and put it
in water and make a tea out of it.

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You should boil it for
about two hours at least.

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Make a tea out of it,
chug it down as quickly as you can.

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Chase it with an orange and don't eat
anything before because it will come up.

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The psychedelics, if you relate to
them as a sacrament, you will have the

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experience more times than not that
you would expect of a sacrament.

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Like when I had my first communion,
I waited, you know, like I was so primed.

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I was seven years old and I went, uh-huh,
and got the host and swallowed it.

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And I sat there and waited and the priest
had given me a nudge and said, go on,

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because there are a bunch of good
after me because nothing happened.

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But I can guarantee it, man,
if you take a psychedelic, something will

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happen every time.

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Heaven or hell, it's all within you.

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You know,
there's nothing in the LSD that isn't in you.

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You know, all it is is a catalyst.

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I want to go hiking.

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Let me at it.

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Get me out of this town.

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I know, I think it's all my energy up there.

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I just kind of...

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I know it.

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And I don't want to floss around
here because we've got to drive.

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Psychedelics, ma

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'am, that's another good thing about them.

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They turn you on to levels of play that
you'd never have the hair, you know,

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to break your facade and do.

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And you need it.

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It's in the organism.

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You need to play.

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You need to just get up and nudge your pal,
you know, and go through a couple

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of...

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You know, and shit like that, making faces.

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Oh,

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boy.

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What are you feeling, son?

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Incredible lack of games to play.

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More than anything.

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That's why I like to come up here and play.

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There's nothing you can do to match it,
you know, so you don't have

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to do anything except be with it.

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[...]

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I'm about to...

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I'm about to...

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What's going on inside your head, ma'am?

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Do you feel it?

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I'm trying to be as still as possible
so that I can feel my body and

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feel nature as best I can.

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I feel really good.

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I feel really...

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I don't know.

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It's hard to say it in words.

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The peyote doesn't let up.

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[...]

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Really merged with the rest
of the energy around me.

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I feel really good.

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I really... I must have gotten contact high.

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That would...

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It would look, um...

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Psychedelic level.

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This clean's so earthy.

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I'm starting to see lightning
flashes out of the corner of my eye.

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That's a sign that I'm really alone in.

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Brotherhood of man.

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I really believe in it.

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And that belief is probably due,
in part, to acid trips because

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I've experienced it, you know.

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Or I've felt that I was experiencing
some incredibly real living link between

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myself and the rest of the human organism.

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And I believe in that vision.

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Say, say, boom.

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